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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TastyTorge:
He already had MIUI once a few month ago and he (same as me) diskliked it. Cause of the missing App Drawer and stuff.

He want a stable phone. A working camera, if it is possible smooth scrolling. I think a modern ICS rom or something like that should be fine. He is not that of a hardcore user with benchmarks and stuff.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Stable and ics don't mix together.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TastyTorge:
ok lemme try that, ics looking :D but I think thats gonna be no problem with go launcher etc. He is used to CM7, perhaps something like that out there?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
forgive me, I was being facetious. I dont like miui either.

Well IMHO, we're looking at AOSP / Sense 2.0 (or lower) Gingerbread ROM. What do you think DZ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Quite agree. If he doesn't want to play with dialers and launchers, get him a stock sense ROM. Else let him try Sense and Aosp Gingerbread and decide. You can flash each, take recovery images and demo them. :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Yep.

Well he is on a CM7 nightly, so he probably has a reasonable idea of the aesthetics of AOSP.

If I wanted to recommend an AOSP ROM (with obvious exception of course) I wouldn't necessarily say CM7 was the best rom to use as an example for smoothness and performance. Oxygen is usually a good place to start with AOSP. Or maybe even Mildwild.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TastyTorge:
different Launchers etc are no problem. We are just looking for some easy update. Like I said, its the latest official CM7 nightly (from november I think).

What do you think about Runnydroid or MildWild?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roscobigfoot:
Once again ive just had a look at the brilliant desire index: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=809328

and the best 2.0 or lower sense ROM imho is actually SuperNova Extreme: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1045824

or Cool IceCream Sense which is Gingerbread sense 2.0 but has an ICS feel to it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1279016
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
I dont see runnymede being particularly fast, smooth or bug free. We're looking at a rom thats for a much newer device than the desire. Its close to the boundaries of what the desire can do.

Mildwild (Oxygen based one) has reportedly good battery life and if the theme is liked, probably a good choice. Lots of script tweaks in there. Or simply Oxygen that it is based on.

I haven't tried MildWild though, but if I were to, it would be the oxy version.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stankyou:
OP, I would recommend the roms of the first two people who replied to you. Droidzone for Sense rom and rootSU for AOSP, take your pick.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Haha. Neither of us have recommended our own roms. We try to be impartial ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TastyTorge:
ok :D

I just installed the MildWild and its working fine so far! Just another question. Do we have to install a new kernel or adjust ril/bb settings somehow?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
RIL and Kernel packaged in the rom should be fine. Shouldnt be any need to change. Infact its a _thalamus kernel. I dont think there is any better for oxygen (Assuming you went for the oxygen version?)

What is BB?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erklat:
You're in my sig with this. :D

I'm not sure that kernel can be replaced there because of the camera.

SwiftKeyed from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Yep, AOSP driver. I would expect the kernel by gen_Sheiskopff would work, but not sure how its been developed recently. Dont see him around the desire forums much anymore

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1268198
[Motorola Droid Bionic] iNsAnEmOd:
Is anyone having this problem?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] iNsAnEmOd:
I assume so(views: 172, comments: 0)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Bfitz26:
Lmfao
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dan46n2:
Adding content to a discussion as always...^

I've been on Eclipse 2.0/2.1rc1/2.1 for the last 6 weeks or so and I haven't had any overly-aggressive vibrations on reboot, startup, shutdown.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] adlzian:
I usually get it. But I don't often have to reboot so I say oh well....
[Motorola Droid Bionic] PG101:
Please dont open new threads!!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1327695

Post rom related questions here..
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
In light of the EOL status of the Bionic, this method may no longer be the most cost effective, as the HD dock is now $24 on Amazon, before shipping. Still, this is a cheap way to use usb devices away from a tv or monitor. Please keep all of this in mind before considering this option.

Many Bionic users have wondered if they could somehow use USB host without having to buy an expensive dock. Well, I have just finished testing a method that works. Now please note it's not the sleekest or most portable of methods. Still, it works.

Test Build - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/silversonic1/GEDC0056.jpg

You may be wondering why I am using a Y USB cable. In my testing, I have come to the conclusion that Motorola intentionally crippled the phone's OTG functions. It appears that the host mode only works when TWO priorities are met. First, the phone MUST be receiving power. Second, a hub MUST be used. If either of these is not met, the OTG mode stays offline.

Because this method requires extra power, you have to have a powered USB port nearby. Some USB power packs may put out enough power, but it's still uncertain. However, since my Scosche solar battery pack worked both for the Bionic alone and for this build, it could be possible that anything that works for the Bionic will work for the build as well. Also, I have no way of testing this in a car at the moment.

Action Shot - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v148/silversonic1/GEDC0052-1.jpg

In the action shot, I am testing a 4GB SanDisk Cruzer. I did run other tests and usb keyboards and mice will work. I used a wireless Targus mouse, as well as a wireless HP mouse and keyboard. They all worked. Sadly, that is the extent of my current HID tech at the moment.

One thing I have observed in my tests is that you should have all of your rig connected before hooking it up to your phone. That includes external power. Not doing so could cause your hub to be recognized much more slowly, or not at all.

I would also like to note that although many hubs allow for AC/DC power adapters to be used, most hubs won't send power through the host port. That is why the Y cable is necessary. But don't worry! I believe that if you attach the power connector of the Y cable to one of the ports of your powered hub, this should give you all the power you need for the phone to charge and activate the OTG mode.

Here's what you need.

USB hub with mini USB port for connecting to host device($5-$20)

Y USB cable($4)

USB Type A Female-USB Micro Male adapter($1-2)

Build subtotal-$10-$26, before tax or shipping. Depending on what you already own, this could still be cheaper than an HD Dock.

All hubs with a mini usb host port should work for this build. But if there are any that don't, please give me the make and model info so I can add them to the list below.

Hubs Confirmed Unusable

None so far

Thank you for looking this through. I hope it helps.

Update 11/7/12- Still works on the 246 OTA.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] iNsAnEmOd:
thats freaking awesome dude
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
I'm glad you see it that way. It's my hope that this works for any Motorola device that is built with a lapdock mode.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] smokedkill:
I'm hoping someone makes an app that allows me to use my tablet for a keyboard and mousepad for the webtop. I'm not a fan of hanging out within 6 feet of my tv when using the webtop.

Sent from the Evil Empire
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
Well, this rig works with wireless keyboards and mice. True, not the same as a tablet, but it'll get you further from the tv.

As for what you are suggesting, I thought I had heard some people were working on something similar. I'll PM you if I find it.

xda premium is insane! ... In a good way.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] codenamefly21:
What Components

What is the amperage output of the power source your using? Also what is the model number of the usb hub your using? i tried a usb hub i had but it didnt work. Also did you have to bridge the pin 4 to ground on the micro plug in essence creating a otg cable?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
Ok. One thing a a time.

Power.

In the action shot, I used my laptop. However, the charger that comes with the phone works as well. That's 5.1volts, 850mA

Model of hub.

I have tested 2 different hubs at this point. At the moment, the one from the photos is unavailable, so I can't get the model info from it now. However, the other I tested is a Manhattan 4-port USB hub, model 160612.

Connector.

I made no modifications to the connectors that I have used. They were, however, already being marketed as OTG adapters. I ordered the one from the pictures on dealextreme. I recently bought newer ones from ebay that are angled up the side of the phone. The new ones work as well.

I suggest that you make sure all of your connectors are secure. A proper connection will have the phone charging while the hub receives power. If it fails to connect to a device after 1 minute when you make your first connection, disconnect the phone and than reconnect.

If you still have trouble after, please post what you're using along with a pic of your setup. With any luck, we'll get it all sorted out.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] codenamefly21:
Working portable prototype

I have a working portable prototype using a 9v battery as the power source. I think the problem with the initial test is that i wasnt waiting long enough for the phone to detect the usb hub and the memory card. Now i have it working fully. I have tried 2 different usb hubs and both worked. 1 was the micro innovations usb204n it worked but was a bit bulky. The second was one i bought from a store local to my home called biglots its an E Source brand 4port usb 2.0 $7. Its nice and slim with an extra ac port on the side. The setup ill be creating is i will wire a 9v battery to a 7805 voltage regulator (with an inline power switch of course) soldered directly to the pins of the ac port. Then i will desolder the usb plug and solder in my homemade otg cable. So all you will have to do is plug it directly to the phone plug in the usb drive and then flip the power switch. i dont wanna post pictures of the ugly prototype so ill have pictures of the final product this weekend. I will say that i found out a usb hub is not needed to use a mouse but the otg cable is. Thank you silversonic for your help
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
I am certainly looking forward to seeing what all you have come up with. Just take your time. After all, I'm sure there are those who are willing to build a more stylish solution than I have up top.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] codenamefly21:
Battery powered usb hub

Ok so i finished the battery powered usb hub that connects to any micro usb phone but it was to bulky using the 9v battery. So i came up with another design using an old cell phone battery. So it is rechargeable as soon as i add the on off switch it will be finished.

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The usb hub was just too bulky using the 9v battery
[Motorola Droid Bionic] codenamefly21:
Rechargeable battery powered usb hub with otg cable

Here is the finished hardware. I took pictures before i seal it all up so yall could see what all i did. The usb hub has a otg cable that plugs into your phone. It has a 950mah cell phone battery and the circuitry from an emergency charger that converts 2 aa batteries (3v) to 5v. Also on the circuitry was an led flashlight so i decided to keep it in there just in case :). The only problem was that the off switch that was on the circuit wouldn't shut off the power to the hub for some reason so i put a secondary switch on the power wire to the hub. I had a problem with the charger charging the battery because it charges the battery based on voltage and the capacitors were screwing that up so i put a diode on the power going into the up-scaling circuit board but not as to break the connection with the charger to battery wires.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
That is certainly the most mobile solution to USB host so far. Kudos!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] codenamefly21:
problem

I was having a problem soon after I put everything together. Anytime I plugged the phone in the circuit would shut down because to much amperage was being pulled from the battery and as a safety thing lithium batteries will shut down so they wont over heat I finally realized all I had to do was put an 8ohm resistor on the power wire going from the usb hub to the phone. 8ohm only because that was what I had. I tried a 1/2ohm resistor and it worked but the less amperage being pulled from the battery the longer it lasts and the circuit doesn't get as hot.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Triskite:
hey man, thanks a lot for your research! i hopped on this thread and about 30 seconds later i had my wireless (unifying usb receiver) logitech keyboard and mouse working :D

had a male->male usb cable, usb hub, and micro usb male -> full female lying around. plugged everything in and presto!

the touchscreen monitor doesn't work though for webtop :(
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
More than likely because touch screen drivers aren't as generic as mice or keyboards. But it was a good thing to try out. Mind sharing the make and model info? It will be helpful to others to know what to expect.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] IAmFCon:
Mine works, cheapo Micro Center hub

I actually spoke with the OP this weekend, and before I read his reply, I was up and running. Sadly, I bought a Manhattan hub based on his findings, which was a bit pricey given the current price of normal USB hubs. I paid $15 on ebay for one, and when I got it, it didn't work. I then bought a usb Y cable from ebay as well, and that was the culprit, that cable was necessary for any hub, regardless if it uses an AC power adapter or not.

On a good note, that means that there's a good chance cheaper (and easier to find) USB hubs may work. The one I'm currently using is Gear Head brand, was $9 at Micro Center. That hub without using the included power cable, and just using the Y usb cable bought separately and the OTG adapter on ebay got me up and running.

Hmmm...now that I look, it seems the hub I got for $9 went up to $15 anyway, but here's what I used incase you have a MC closeby and don't feel like waiting for shipping. Search for SKU 280750 on Microcenter's site. I'm new here so it won't let me post URL's.

Bad news is you'll be paying a total of around $20 for this project, the good news is that may be the maximum you'd be paying, and that's if you buy a $15 usb hub. Honestly, I'd say just look around local stores for one cheaper that has a mini USB port to connect it to the phone + external power usb port (i.e. a laptop next to the phone), and if it doesn't work, return it as long as you can box it up without it looking demolished. Best of luck to everyone, but I hope my verification shows there may be more hope since the Manhattan model is fairly hard to find at a cheap price.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mossadacity:
I'd imagine they didn't want both the phone and Lapdock trying to send power over USB simultaneously.

Thanks for the guide, it was useful :-)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
You're welcome. I have updated to the ICS leak, so I will have to test again, just to be sure that nothing has changed.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Triskite:
3d printed docking station

Sorry for the delayed reply.

I buy generic cables from meritline.com, so there is no brand on them :good:

I think I'm the first person on Thingiverse to create an accessory for the droid bionic, what do you guys think of it:

That was iteration #1, to get the dimensions correct. From here, I can go anywhere. Do folks have any dock dreams they'd like to see come to fruition?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ToddFerrante:
For a while now I've wanted to be able to use my waterproof camera to take pictures, and use my phone to upload them to the web without needing to fire up a computer to do a transfer from the SD card to the phone. This thread inspired me to finally take the leap to work up an OTG adapter. I went on Amazon to buy the Y-cable and the little adapters, but found something better.

This (board won't let me post a link because I'm new) is a USB hub that connects a phone to one of the four downstream ports with a built-in micro USB connector cable. I ordered one up, suspecting that I could mod it to be an OTG adapter. I was right.

To do the mod, the first step is to pry the endcap off the micro USB connector and slide the cover back. This exposes the soldered wire connections. One side of the connector has three wires.

The other side has one wire and an empty solder pad.

Solder a jumper wire from the empty pad to the black wire on the other side.

Then slide the connector cover back over the connector, and press the endcap back into place. If necessary, you can secure the end cap with a drop of super glue.

Next, open the case of the hub. Mine pulled right open with only finger pressure. Use a small screwdriver to remove the circuit board. It is not held by anything other than a light press fit.

This is the back side of the circuit board.

This is the chip that runs the USB hub.

I googled the chip number and downloaded the data sheet, just to be sure there were no gotchas. There weren't any. The only modification is swapping the regular and the micro USB cables. It goes without saying that this requires a very fine soldering iron and a steady hand. Desolder both cables and reattach the micro USB cable on the Host end of the circuit board.

This lets your phone control the hub. As was mentioned earlier in the thread, the Droid Bionic won't power the hub, so you need to hook up the other USB cable to the device side of the circuit board to provide power. Only hook up the power wires. Just cut the data wires short.

Then reinstall the circuit board into the case.

And press the cover back on.

It would be easy to wire a battery to the hub either by connecting to the USB port cable, through the 5VDC power input jack, or by removing the jack and hard wiring directly to the circuit board.

To use the adapter, I plug my SD card reader into the hub, plug the power USB connector into my wall adapter (or car adapter), and plug the micro USB cable into the phone (in that order). The phone immediately loads the card as an attached storage device.

Enjoy,

Todd F.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] codenamefly21:
Very nice setup. I may order one of these and and change one end cable to a female usb and take out all the usb sockets and put a battery in the case that way I could have a nice clean portable usb drive reader.

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The other day I had my usb hub plugged into my phone and the usb was off while the phone was booting up the status led came on for awhile and once the phone got past the motorola logo the light turned off. So this tells me the Bionic is able to output power through the micro usb port.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
Amazing work. I'll have to buy a couple of these and have my brother mod them for me.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
Mind posting a picture of it? If what you're saying is correct, there may be a way to patch the OS to make OTG work without being plugged in.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] codenamefly21:
Ok so i ran a test with a multimeter no voltage fluctuation through the micro usb port all the way through boot. I dont know what caused the led to light up but it may merit some more testing. The led was wired straight to the power and ground wires connected to the phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
Maybe there's something you did before that you didn't do this time.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Dirtdawg57:
Sorry to bring up and old thread but has anyone determined if this still applies to the ota ics update? I would just like to know before I spend money on it. Thanks!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] scottyd035ntknow:
Um, if you do this now you are not very bright. An OEM dock is like $12 now from Amazon... this was useful back when docks were $55 and even then you weren't saving much after you pieced it all together and shipping.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
The standard dock doesn't do USB. However, the HD dock does and is now $24 on Amazon, making my method obsolete for Bionic users. Still, other phones can still benefit from this method if they share in the Bionic's plight. I will revise my opening post to share this data.

PS. It still works on OTA ICS.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Dirtdawg57:
The problem with the hd dock is does it force you into webtop mode? I haven't been able to get joy2touch to work in webtop mode. If you can use mirror mode does the usb ports still work? Thanks for the response!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
I'm almost positive it doesn't force it. But if it does, I believe there is still an option to switch to mirror mode. As for the usb, I believe it works as long as you are docked. Just make sure to unmount any external storage before removing anything.

Nothing is certain for me right now, as my little brother has my dock in his room and is currently asleep. I cannot confirm at this time.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] scottyd035ntknow:
Yeah I just ordered the standard dock. I might order the HD dock as a docking station for my desktop... or maybe not. I used the HDMI/USB out features on my Droid 3 HD dock exactly 0 times in the year I've had it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Dirtdawg57:
Ok that would be alot nicer than messing around with a bunch of cords! If at some point you could confirm that there is a way to get to mirror mode on a tv with usb support also that would be great! I think I will hold off ordering the hd dock until I can get a confirmation because I can't find anything about mirror mode on the hd dock on the internet. No rush though thanks for your help!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
Okay. Mirror mode is go, as well as USB. The phone prompted which mode to go to upon connection.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Dirtdawg57:
Thank you so much for checking that for me! I have had such a hard time getting answers on anything. You are a great forum user man!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
You're welcome. I find that it's a key responsibility of an OP to look at all angles and not just assume things work.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] sfcascooter:
Loving my HD Dock

Got a good deal from Amazon and I am loving the dock. Hoping to get another one for the office. I tied the home one into a kvm switch on my home computer -- love using the mouse and keyboard to reply to texts, etc. by just hitting the switch button on the KVM
[Motorola Droid Bionic] jkensing:
USB Tether

Does anyone know if you can tether an internet connection 4g/3g via USB from the doc to the computer. I'm assuming no because both I assume are live. I know they only advertise the USB connections for a mouse or keyboard.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] silversonic1:
It's doubtful, but I will try to find time to test it.

Edit: It's not possible. Sorry. When in host mode, you can't use USB tethering. I have my phone docked right now and am connected to my PC, but neither side is recognizing the other.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] jkensing:
Thanks

Thanks for checking. I didn't think it would but that was just a hunch. I have to say that the lapdock is really nice. It's a shame that it didn't take off any better. They were priced out of the market and I think that if moto could have got this into peoples hands to know what it's all about and priced it accordingly they could have sold a bunch of these.. I could have sold 10 of them so far. I would say $100 is the right price point from day 1.