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[EVO 4G Android Development] Rxpert:
Thank you for the explanation. I always appreciate it when dev's keep us "in the loop"

Sent from my EVO 4G
[EVO 4G Android Development] whomafia:
Classy...pulling the links and all. Good for u swiper.. I get that no dev is going to be happy about getting kanged...but come on!! Really? There hasnt been an official MIUI.US release for the evo in months..and they want to cry over a couple a files? Fuqouttahere! At least Swiper and his folks kept hope alive on the OGEVO!

grrr Im so pissed... I suppose it would be a different scenario if somebody was making money off of miui ports...but this type of selfishness only hurts the users...so what your name wasnt included on a LIST of names! Does this "-|0xD34D|-whatever" guy crave attention that much?
[EVO 4G Android Development] pedrodog69:
I've been using 2.3.2 b1es since the begining of March and I am very happy with this build. just have one lil problem with random re boots every now and then. No big deal. FFC works, good battery life with the latest Tiamat. the only thing i miss is flashing the latest goodies from MIUI. I can be patient till then! great work Swipper!
[EVO 4G Android Development] Sinistertensai:
I am now working on the official miui.us ports ice cream sandwich and ginger bread builds will hopefully be available by Friday. If swiper would like to assist by all means contact me. As for the request of pull, the developers and porters of miui.us work hard to maintain stability and proper translations. Do take note that swiper pulled the links via request. All I can say now is, the past is the past and the future is blank.
[EVO 4G Android Development] sttony1975:
the link to the rom is dead

im trying to download these swip miui roms but all the links are dead help
[EVO 4G Android Development] KingRedHot:
There are a couple of posts directly above yours with answers pertaining to your problem ;)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Blokgang:
WOW..... Not even 1 Page back...one POST back!!! You sir should be shunned
[EVO 4G Android Development] Blokgang:
Do people even have their eyes open in these forums or do they just click until something downloads?
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
I'm so sick of people overreacting because they didn't get their God damn names splashed all over the internet....

Instead of insisting that the guy who took over development of a ROM that had been abandoned, even by MIUI themselves, remove his work, they could have just asked him to add the credits and go on.

No offense to Sinister, he's the man, but Swiper is the one that kept MIUI alive for the Evo. Where's HIS "credit" at?

BTW, I have 2.3.2 es b1 on my mediafire.

PM me for a link.

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The porters and developers of MIUI.us walked away from the Evo development in December without a word or an explanation becasue they didn't give a damn about us Evo users back then.

All of a sudden, it's an issue?

Now I know you're gonna kick ass on these ports, Sin, and I HOPE you and Swiper and his team can put your heads together on keeping MIUI growing for the Evo, but this whole thing reeks.... No offense to you, SInister, you're just the guy that got caught up in the tidal wave.

Rant over....
[EVO 4G Android Development] v5HMeca:
I'm discussing a bug/incompatibility. Using Go SMS does not resolve the incompatibility between MIUI and Handcent.
[EVO 4G Android Development] pedrodog69:
Not trying to be a ****, but you got to read the post top page. It will help you.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Blokgang:
I agree Hip...its courteous to mention work you've used but come on....this is open source after all....maybe the individuals from google should have miui taken down for not naming each person who contributed code to aosp
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rxpert:
Isn't MIUI closed source though?

I agree with everyone else in that they should get over it for ditching us with no word, but if its closed source and their files are used I guess they can complain.
[EVO 4G Android Development] OneDeep:
I'm still on Gingerbread MIUI 0202210 I'm not the type to update a lot because the rom works fine but the only issues I'm having is not being able to download some games from Play (Six Guns and some other games from Gameloft) . I'm getting device not compatible. I looked in the about phone and it says Model: swiper. Could this be the issue or was this fixed in the latest versions? Or is the Evo really not compatible?

Sent from my White Evo 4G
[EVO 4G Android Development] mahootzki:
Just read on Android Central that there is an issue with the Play store.

I had the same issue I logged out then in again to my account and was able to download apps.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rxpert:
Yeah I had to nandriod back to a sense-based ROM to download some apps, back them up via TB & restore.

Restoring the Play Store backup from a sense-ROM also fixed it
[EVO 4G Android Development] whomafia:
I suppose thats good..me being a end user I cant sit here and act like I know the key players in the dev of miui, but what I do know is Swiper kept the mother f***ing hope alive on the EVO...like I said he showed his class by removing the links on request...I would have told the requestor to eat a ****!! Especially after getting banned from MIUI.us and getting blasted on twitter, thats just evil spiteful, selfishness...and in the end who really stands to lose from this predicament? Cant we all just get along???
[EVO 4G Android Development] Diablo67:
Swiper is getting this resolved with the dev of the rom,this was just a miscommunication and should be worked out soon,please be patient.He was asked to pull links until this is resolved,links should be back up soon,dont forget to keep supporting swiper for his hard work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] suarezn:
Swiper is Da man in my book...yeah he's still a rat and all that, but he's OUR rat...

When MIUI just dropped a couple of borked releases at the end of the year and then just completely abandoned the EVO community he came to the rescue and gave us a flawlessly working version to keep us flashoholics going in theory until MIUI would decide to fix their ROMs and then they never did. So hope you can get this issue resolved and look forward to your work.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ReppinTheSouth:
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnn.

I have been a CM7 user ever since I got my phone. I FINALLY decided to switch and try out MIUI. The more research I did, I figured out that it was no longer officially supported and swiper seemed to be the main person keeping it relevant. I finally decided to take the plunge and try out MIUI but all of his work has been removed. I don't want to try any of the developmental ICS ROMs and it sounded like his 2.3.23 ROM is solid.

I don't know all of the specifics so I won't make any comments out of ignorance. I just hope it gets resolved.
[EVO 4G Android Development] woshiweili:
Yes. In other words people, put down your pitchforks and torches and just be patient :)
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rxpert:
It really is a great ROM. Everything just works (minus 4g of course)
[EVO 4G Android Development] ECrispy:
As far as I'm concerned miui.us can go screw themselves if this is how they react to not getting 'credit', they aren't the official devs of MIUI anyway, there's also miuiandroid.com, and what really matters is the hard work of people like stiff, swiper etc who do the actual ports, not what site they are affiliated with.

swiper's builds are the only ones that are rock solid and stable since miui.us abandoned the Evo without so much as an explanation due to stiff's absence. Since then, most of us have been relying on these builds. And to have these links removed is a disservice to the community, it just ends up hurting MIUI.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Blokgang:
Anyone got 3.23 to post or is that inappropriate
[EVO 4G Android Development] DrededStar87:
im getting this voicemail pop up saying error v30 and, though it is not that big of a deal, i was wondering if anyone knew a fix for it? i searched the thread and did not see the error here and i have tried using the titanium backup method. i also reflashed the rom to no avail :/

im using version 2.3.2 b1 es
[EVO 4G Android Development] mahootzki:
Pm me
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
As I posted on MIUI.us:

Agreed. You kicked him to the curb, showed ZERO appreciation for the fact that he took up the reins when MIUI.us turned it's collective back on the Evo, gave us THE most stable builds that we've had yet (no offense to Stiff and crew, they did an amazing job bringing the ROM as far as they did) and now you want to invite him back to help out the guy who got elevated to the position that swiper had taken initiative for in the first place?? Are you freaking serious?

Look around, the people are revolting.

Swiper should have been left in place as the man on the GB Builds, Sinister on the ICS builds and THEN they could collaborate together on future ROMS. I know that sounds too obvious, based on the work that both guys had been doing, but THAT would have been showing DUE respect to BOTH Devs for the work they've done and built a platform for future development. Instead, the way this was handled reeks of immaturity and a complete lack of professionalism and respect.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
As I posted on MIUI.us:

Swiper didn't take initiative for any position. He made his own ports and released them on his own site completely independently of MIUI.us as if MIUI.us didn't exist, and as far as I know, he made no effort to contact MIUI.us about becoming the site's official porter. The only reason his ports even made it to MIUI.us is because Raadius was kind enough to post them for Swiper. Basically, this is Swiper's own doing. He wanted to be completely independent, which is perfectly fine, but he used MIUI.us' work to do so with no indication whatsoever of that fact. Whether it was intentional or not is beside the point.
[EVO 4G Android Development] xRILEYx:
Until swiper came around, MIUI.US had ceased to exist in the Evo world. I'm not sure I would have reached out either, considering every release, when we'd actually get one, seemed to be on a path of degradation. If I had the know how to patch it up and make it work, I would. Who was there to reach out to? Spliff? It was impossible to get in touch with anyone. Anytime people were posting in the MIUI forums about getting in touch there'd be a canned admin response of "We are currently trying to work things out.. etc etc". It was frustrating, ****e releases with ****e support.

Even though there is now an official dev on the Evo, I haven't heard or seen anything that implies things are getting more stable in the official MIUI.us releases. Yet swiper was pushing fast stable releases on a consistent basis.

This whole thing pushed me away from MIUI and into other ROMs. I'm not sure I'll go back to MIUI now.

I hope swiper pulls the code, or even steps away from MIUI and cooks up his own. I'd be one of the many, im sure, that wouldn't hesitate to push it to our phones.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
Endless, you know, I have the utmost in respect for you, but let's revisit a little history.

Towards the end of the year, MIUI.us said they were going to focus on dev'ing ICS versions of MIUI. And they did; for every phone EXCEPT the Evo.

At that point, the Evo was basically dropped, except for 2 very half-assed attempts that came out in December and were broken. Not one person from MIUI.us offered us a word about anything. Nor was there any attempt to fix the releases that were basically unusable.

Swiper was the one that came in, looked at the ROM and offered to rework what was broken and forgotten, and came up with amazingly stable versions that put MIUI back on the Evo.

Every time I hear, or read about someone crying because they didn't get as much credit as their lame ego's dictate that they should have, I want to wring their necks. I'm sick of whiny babies that are more concerned with their own adoration than they are progressing the work on these devices.

That little tantrum has shut down more threads and chased away more devs who ONLY do this so that retards like me can satiate our need to constantly tweak and mod our devices.

Swiper sure didn't do it for a paycheck.

Bottom line is, if there was never a Swiper, or someone like him, MIUI on the Evo would STILL be dead. Now Sin is a great choice, but HE was working on and doing a great job with MIUI ICS, not GB. I will love when MIUI ICS is stable enough to be a completely functional ROM, but in the meantime, I want GB to be constantly updated and improved and THAT is what Swiper did, without asking anyone for anything in return. And what he got back was the shaft.
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
Look, I'm not involved in the politics at MIUI.us. I didn't have anything to do with banning him, which I didn't even know happened (I agree that that was a bit too much, especially since he complied with the removal request), and I most certainly didn't even know he was breaking any rules until all this stuff went down. I'm not even saying I agree with it all, because I don't even know exactly which apks he may or may not have "stolen" or whatever.

All I'm saying is, after Swiper's first or second port, I made a post in his thread telling him that he would be welcome to join as the official MIUI.us maintainer and that he should contact MIUI.us about the position if he was interested. After that, Swiper continued making his port independently. That wouldn't really really be a problem. It's his choice. But he had the option to contact MIUI.us about becoming the official maintainer, and he didn't do it.

My point is, no one forced Swiper out of the position. You make it sound like he was well-established as the MIUI.us maintainer for months, then got kicked out for no reason. He chose to not pursue the position of lead maintainer. Sinister, on the other hand, reached out to MIUI.us and asked to be lead maintainer. Don't be all pissy because you think Sinister somehow undermined Swiper and stole his position. He did no such thing. Swiper wanted to remain independent, and Sinister was willing to join the MIUI.us team. Believe me, I wanted Swiper to become the MIUI.us maintainer, too, but for whatever reason, he didn't do it. So don't make it a Sinister vs. Swiper thing, because it's not. Be mad about him getting banned or the reasons for it, but realize that Swiper hasn't been forced out of anything. He can still operate his port on his site. He just has to do so without the bits from MIUI.us.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fitz420:
So the last good GB build of miui for the evo is swipers 2.3.2b1. That was out weeks ago. If sinisters on this wheres the update? I NEVER ask for updates but given the fact that swipers been shut down for now I feel like its alright. Swiper was very responsive and generally all over this.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rootlinux:
Play Store keeps crashing on me.

It is not as stable as the old market.
[EVO 4G Android Development] HipKat:
I never said he was established as the maintainer, ai said he took up the slack on a project that had been left to die.

Regardless, this debate needs to die. Too many threads get closed for this, too.

I'm off to Michigan for a Christian Retreat this weekend, so I'm sure all the dust will be settled by Monday and we can go back to testing new releases.
[EVO 4G Android Development] taadow1030:
I would keep trying and perhaps check out the Boot Manager Init2winit forum. I have a 16gb card with 6 ROMs and love being able to quickly switch out on a whim. I have ICS, AOSP, MIUI (both Android versions) and Sense ROMs loaded. Once you overclock, increase Dalvik Heap size and increase card read speed, you are good to go speedwise. The only issue I've come across is you can't load ROMs with A2SD built in. A work around is to flash via Phone ROM slot, make a nandroid and restore nandroid to an open slot or you can use 7zip to remove A2SD from the ROM prior to flashing. Either way, this is my favorite app by far.
[EVO 4G Android Development] rootlinux:
I have tried talking with MIUI.US and still no reply from them.

Stated the work done here would direct credit to them and we would do what needed to be done.

They refuse to answer and I sent pm the day this got shut down.

They have a right to get credit yes, but ignoring the fact this was the best port and made users happy is disrespectful.

We have offered to make things right and they do not reply.

I have much respect for the work they do but banning Swiper without a chance to make it right is absurd.

They think what was done here was wrong but they did not give a chance to make it right.

Official porter or not, if credits are given that should be enough as that is all they complained about.

Now that we offered to make it right there is no response.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Raadius:
Agree.

Swipers build are the best since Spliff left if not better. The fact we have people willing to port for Evo 4G owners after months of absent has me greatful. MIUI should be so too. If push comes to shove, join up on MIUI-Dev, and make Evo 4G ports over there, ill follow and lead others there too.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fitz420:
+2 (wife too)
[EVO 4G Android Development] HarlanPepper0010:
Could not agree more... I have been running swipers latest ics build with the mason kernal and this thing is buttery smooth! I have gone a couple of days now with no random reboots and almost everything works! Hats off to you swiper! The people have spoken, they want working builds, not crap with some name plastered all over it...

Swiperrat 2012.
[EVO 4G Android Development] ECrispy:
Why can't people get along? What is all this business about 'official maintainer' and 'bits from MIUI.us' and only being allowed to post rom's on specific sites? This is just childish and immature, we're not talking about some random people who take an existing rom, change the title/font/theme and post it under a new name. This is someone who took the time to port and fix issues and made something that thousands of people depend on, and need I mention that the Evo 4G section on MIUI.us is by far the most popular section on the site, and without swipers's work it had been abandoned.

IMO we should be thankful to him for his hard work, and should be welcomed on any site since the end goal is to make MIUI available to more users, right? As a user I can tell you its very frustrating to have 3-4 different sites and multiple threads with no clear indication who has the latest updates and which is stable, I know people who quit MIUI after the disastrous builds in Dec 2010. Who takes responsibility for those? I could care less about a site's 'status' or 'official' port, its meaningless if it doesn't work.

It's a pity such a great ROM is being mismanaged like this. First there was the split with miuiandroid, now all this drama. It's even become open source now, I'm sure if all the devs joined forces we'd see a lot of great things instead of all this banning and bickering going on.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jpr0930:
Getting some lag issues on b1 es. Thought it was kernel related but didn't appear to be. Anyone else experience this? occasionally the phone freezes up and wont return. Other times it goes into slow motion and I can see my movements unfold at a crawl of a pace. Running tiamat 4.1 and oc'd to 1113 on smartassv2. previously had mason but thought it was.the problem due to Ics specs but doesn't seem to be the case. Also had Smurf but undid that too. Dta2sd installed.
[EVO 4G Android Development] fitz420:
Perhaps I'm wrong but maybe 1113 is a tad high for oc'ing. That would be my first guess. I have no lag here. Do u have your cache on your SD card and if so what speed card do u have?
[EVO 4G Android Development] outerdepth:
Kinda like getting griped at for 99 cents for your hard work?
[EVO 4G Android Development] Jpr0930:
Will adjust and not oc. Cache is.not on sd.
[EVO 4G Android Development] 0xD34D:
It's not about attention but about properly giving credit. There are some modifications to the APKs which I worked hard on and if someone is just going to include them in their ROM and not even acknowledge that then there is indeed a problem. If it was simply APKs with translations then it would not be that much of an issue, however that was not the case. It's pretty simple to add one line of text giving credit/thanks to those who did the work.

When I contacted swiperrat on his forum I was met with a reply of "Everyone knows I use the N1 as a base... so what's the problem." I can't see how "everyone" knows if there isn't at least some credit given. I'm all for open source and sharing but not for taking another person's work and slapping your name on it.

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If you are referring to MIUI being open source, you are wrong. Go look at MiCode on GitHub and see for yourself. They have only opened up a few apps and some of their patching scripts. None of their framework or code for the core of the ROM has been open sourced. If that were the case people would be building the ROM from source rather than porting it using a mixture of AOSP and MIUI.
[EVO 4G Android Development] souleman:
lithium76 > If that would have been explained by an admin in the first place, maybe people wouldn't be so upset. Banning a person, locking the thread, and saying "Banned for not proper credit" is not the way to do things.

And it is well known that any evo build is a port from the MIUI.us site.. He never claimed that it was his own build, he stated it was a port.

And for the record, after going 2 months with absolutely NO WORD at all from any admin after pushing 2 broken roms to the downloads section, neither of which can make a freaking phone call. And finally putting in a new mod that can't change the downloads section to ports that actually work. You should be able to see where the problem is. Instead of a ban, the admins should have said "can you please add a link stating that it is a port from MIUI on your personal site, and would you mind if we made it an offical port on our site, because the crap that we released lately doesn't do anything except make your phone an undersized tablet?"
[EVO 4G Android Development] Rxpert:
+10000
[EVO 4G Android Development] swiperrat:
ill have some miui 2.3.30 in a few days

head over here and say thanks to markHUK http://miuiandroid.com/community/
[EVO 4G Android Development] souleman:
Make sure you don't kang anything from MIUI.us :D haha
[EVO 4G Android Development] XCellPhoneSalesRep:
Thanks for werkin it all out!
[EVO 4G Android Development] suarezn:
Personally I don't care if he does...as MIUI.us could care less about the EVO as far as I'm concerned Swiper is helping me extend the life of my phone and they're not so they can kiss my axxxx
[EVO 4G Android Development] woshiweili:
Fantastic!!! You are one awesome rat! :D
[EVO 4G Android Development] ngh55:
Tell Miui.us to take a hike, MIUI is open source now, heck, lets join "brains" and compile our own miui flavor...
[EVO 4G Android Development] EndlessDissent:
For the record, MIUI is not open source. A couple MIUI apps are, and there's an application to help with the porting process. The actual ROM is still closed.

MIUzI weighs a ton.
[EVO 4G Android Development] Raadius:
Congrats Swiper, looking forward to your ports bro!
[EVO 4G Android Development] disazter380:
I used to hate rats, until i met swiper.

Sent from the Original Gangster
[EVO 4G Android Development] mahootzki:
I gotta say, this is ROM is the only one I've ever been on for so long, I used to change to new ones on a weekly basis.

Thank you soooo much for this, and can't wait too see what you do in the future Swiper.

You are the man!!
[EVO 4G Android Development] diggy_:
Has the fc problem with tapatalk been adressed with MIUI yet...when uploading a picture in the app from the phone
[EVO 4G Android Development] rootlinux:
The ban is lifted and now we can talk about doing things worker out.

They replied and were actually very nice about it.

If they allow us to continue credits will be given.

Thanks for everyone's support and to miui.us for all they do.