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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nightwish2:
Does anyone of the european users have an unbranded razr that already got the update? I didn't get it until now though i have a german rom too.. could that be a reason for the country, the language or what else?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] R3dbeaver:
what i want is 2.3.6 for Canadian or LatAM version :(

any news on that? i heard better battery and faster camera. i want that! :(

anybody flashed a Canadian Rogers RAZR with EU fastboot ROM?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
Still not here in UK yet 8.45am sat morning
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
I have an unbraded Razr and have not yet received the update here in England.:(

Sent from my very clever phone
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
Same here, as I said, it's like Atrix all over again. Probably be November when it's ota in Uk.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
Still Zilch Nada Nowt Nothing for UK
[Motorola Droid RAZR] MattyOnXperiaX10:
I'm probably just gonna force the update and by the way what does char mean?

Example: 10 char?

Edit.found out what they mean. Nvm

Xperia x10(Feralabs Rom) After trying all roms it was my Fav.

Now on the RAZR.

I see you Drinking that ¥Hateraid¥
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
Sunday morning and even constantly trying to force the update, still not here in the uk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
How can you force something that isn't there?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
By downloading it and applying it manually, I'd assume.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Asaken:
when I said force it I meant flash the fastboot file to get the 2.3.6. is easy to do and the result is the same.

Enviado desde mi XT910 usando Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ectodroid:
Just did this on the non-branded EU FW. Too much waiting :mad:

Worked like a charm :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] MattyOnXperiaX10:
what are you taking about?. It is there.

I'll flash it using RSD :)

Xperia x10(Feralabs Rom) After trying all roms it was my Fav.

Now on the RAZR.

I see you Drinking that ¥Hateraid¥
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
I just get a fail when trying to install using RSD
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
How about that "Battery life improvements"?

Is the battery performance better in this build?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milesg:
I'll let you know in a few days. I couldn't wait any longer and flashed mine from the fastboot file using RSD lite.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
Figured out why I was getting a fail while trying to install 2.3.6 with RSD. I was using an old version of RSD. Now installed 2.3.6 & all is well so far.

If I wanted to flash back to the orginal 2.3.5 From this list http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1362956 , would there be any problems with rolling back using RSD?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ectodroid:
I was wondering, what's the difference between "651.167.19.xt910" and "651.167.20.xt910" ? both got android 2.3.6
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Not a lot. .20 is actually the more recent of the two, but it was leaked rather than pushed out officially.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
Monday morning and in the UK, we have a big fat hee-haw !!!!

this is beginning to get annoying !!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jms_uk:
For those (like me) waiting for the "official" update, I found this announcement thread over on the Motorola Support forums

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/9e912ca283

Apparently its their attempt to give a bit more transparency on their update notifications.. and it seemed to be going swimmingly at first, with the Germany update announcement posted not long after the thread went live. However, its all gone suspiciously quiet again.. There are links in that thread, which take you to other pages listing the change log (for UK and other devices), no actual timings for the update by region are listed anywhere.

I guess we'll just have to be patient, we'll get it eventually no doubt.. or go the RSDLite and flashing route that others have taken.

Hope this helps :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
if there was a guide somewhere for RSDLite i might try but I havent used it before, so am wary
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ectodroid:
I used google translate french>english on this site: http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/81794-tutoinstaller-une-rom-stock/

Worked like a charm (just remember to get the english/euro OTA fastboot files instead of the french)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
on the links for the download of the update ... am I downloading the full rom sized one :

Roms EU :

- Version Android : 2.3.6

- Rootable : Oui

- Date de bluid : 13/01/2012

- Version du système : 651.167.19.XT910.Retail.en.EU

- SPU : SPU-15-M2

- Radio : BP U_03.1C.91P

- Version du bootloader : 0A.6C (Non mis à jour)

- Version du webtop : WT-2.0.0-139

- AnTuTu Benchmark : 6200

or the OTA smaller one :

OTA

- Version Android : 2.3.6

- Rootable : Oui

- Date de bluid : 13/01/2012

- Version du système : 651.167.19.XT910.Retail.en.FR

- SPU : SPU-15-M2

- Radio : BP U_03.1C.91P

- Version du bootloader : 0A.6C

- Version du webtop : WT-2.0.0-139

- AnTuTu Benchmark : 6200
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
Why download the full ROM?

Why not just install the 45mb OTA from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1362956

That is an English version!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Because only the full ROM is 167.19, the OTA in the stock ROMs thread is 167.20. The former is the officially pushed update, the latter is a previously leaked one.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] circleofomega:
Hi...

Just got the 2.3.6 update for the Atrix...but the lock screen is the same old slide (left to rigth) to unlock...

wondering if this will be the same for RaZr??
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
Can anyone answer this please?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] circleofomega:
yea....can someone?? Whats RSD??

No update here in India yet...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
You will need to revert using the Fla**** tool that Kholk made. It's even easier to use than RSD Lite, so there's not much to worry about. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
Link to said Tool?

Ta
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ectodroid:
I think this is it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1453660
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
Does anyone else think this update is a bit jerky when moving around the screens & coming in & out of the app list?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
Gone quiet in here?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
Probably because nobody outside Germany didn't get the OTA update yet... :-D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nightwish2:
And that's what i find strange.. why only germany?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ectodroid:
I didn't notice any of those things yet (651.167.19). It really feels smoother somehow ?

Only thing I did notice is when I press the power button to light up the screen, sometimes it takes a few seconds before I can unlock the screen.

The screen just doesn't respond.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jms_uk:
Exactly.. and details are non existant on Motorola's own support forums regarding the status of the OTA update for other XT910 regions.. (quelle suprise)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
But does anyone know if there are any problems with downgrading, No Brick phone & the like?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
No, there's not. As long as you read the instructions and threads thoroughly there's not much to worry about.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
still nothing in the UK, this is beginning to get very annoying

WTF is the point of releasing only in one small area when they know there is nothing wrong with the update ????
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
Because we are Motorola customers and it has become apparent that Motorola hate their customers!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
In installed the whole ROM with RSD & have found it to be a little jittery & jerky compared to the 2.3.5.

Going to flash back & see which I prefer.

The update is nothing special, so you not missing a great deal.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] patkoszoltan78:
Hi!

Has anyone from Hungary got it?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
I did ask in this thread if it was possible to to flash back to the 2.3.5 rom from the 2.3.6 & was told it was ok to do so.

Now I see this....Android 2.3.6 ----- Blur_Version.651.167.19.XT910.Retail.en.EU --- No Downgrade

SPDREM_U_01.6.5.1-167_SPU-15-M2_SIGNEuropeAustraliaEMEA_USASPDRRTGB_HWp2b_Servi ce1FF_fastboot.xml.zip

So before I brick my phone can someone say who actually know for sure, can I or cannot flash BACK?

Thanks
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Yes, you can go back, you just have to use Kholk's Fla**** tool instead of RSD Lite.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
So why does it say no downgrade? What does that mean?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Because you can't downgrade with RSD Lite. This is due to the new bootloader, which you can't downgrade from at all (currently), but that doesn't affect any functionality of the device beyond needing to use using Fla**** to revert to an older stock ROM if you want to.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
Ok Cheers - Flashing back now - Will I still receive the OTA If I have the older 2.3.5 rom but the newer bootloader?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Probably, but given you can flash this 167.19 update manually - which is the version being pushed out now, and should receive OTA updates fine - why would you need to revert to 2.3.5 only to update to the same official 2.3.6 version again?

I assume the reason there's a full fastboot ROM for 167.19 is that new & refurbished units will ship with it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
I wanted to flash back to see if moving around the phone was as smooth as it was with the 2.3.5 Rom. I just felt it was a touch more jerky.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] greenaar:
Upgrade success.

I used RSD Lite 5.6 and the fastboot files on thread page 3 or so.

I'd been using the 2.3.6 leaked ota before - was a bit nervous, but it worked out nicely.

Had to google fastboot AP, as I couldn't remember it was power + volume up + volume down, and the 15 minutes it took to flash, unpack, reboot, and finally let me in were nail biting.

Imagine my surprise when all of my stuff was still there? I've confirmed the upgrade worked, and the only changes I can see thusfar are my carrier (now shows up in the upper left) and the lock screen. Seems pretty speedy after a clean reboot, thanks to CheesySeb on page 3 who linked to the fastboot files.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] circleofomega:
I always fret this about Android. Backwards compatibility has never been Android's forte. And I shiver at the thought of ICS now...

Sent from my Droid RaZr.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] patrick1989x:
Have u noticed, any sound quality or sound level changes, after update? I got 651.73.30 now and I'm really happy(especially using PowerAMP). I don't want to get worse sound quality as someone mentioned at this forum.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sebskies:
I got my update a few weeks ago
[Motorola Droid RAZR] @home:
I didn't know that.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
Still no update, what the hell is going on
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tomoooo:
That is a good question, reports about update to 2.3.6 are here for a few weeks, moto released documents also informing about them, but no update at all. On motorola forum, they just tell you to follow update thread, which is telling nothing more than Germany is beeing updated.

Excellent marketing. But learning from last few weeks, has somebody really expected something else?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tomoooo:
So that you know where we stand with 2.3.6 (thanks to maarawoe who asked, see the response from the mods, and my findings.

So as of now I really do not expect 2.3.6 to roll to other countries. (you have to love motorola)

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/9a68368880

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As mentioned above, there is no timing available for an update to 2.3.6, and there very well not be one in the works, granted the phone is scheduled to be upgraded to Android 4.0 in Q2 of this year."
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iolinux333:
I'm very excited for google to take over and fire all the corporate poop speak people and keep all the engineers!

BTW, has anyone seen Asia version... i may just have to flash Europe version, tired of waiting?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
The worst thing and that what sucks the most (at least for me) is not that that missing update but the motorola's attitude and the absolute information blackout... :-/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tomoooo:
Hi

yeah, that is why I had to register on moto forum, and post under your thread. But looks like we atleast got some attention :-). Let's see.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rohanblade:
indian version of razr is stil on 2.3.5, wen can we get the 2.3.6 update????:confused::confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
For those of you on O2 in the UK.

I tweeted them the following (apparently it's the best way of getting an answer!)

"Can you tell me when the 2.3.6 update for the Motorola Razr will be rolled out? Germany had it for several weeks now!"

and received the following reply:

"no updates about that at this point Edward but keep an eye on our feed for any future info!"

Not good news!:(:(:(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
Surprised? ;-)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] hieu007:
i like it...........
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tomoooo:
Hi

so it definitely looks like 2.3.6 has been thrown away because of ICS.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sonicfishcake:
Why did they bother releasing it in Germany? That was wasted development time which could have been spent on ics! I wonder if the newest shipped EU razrs have 2.6? It's a good job we have the Eternity Project!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
Probably they like Angela..... :-)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bigdaddy168:
LOL, you made my day! :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] patrick1989x:
How can i get 2.3.6 on easiest way? I got CWM on boot. I have now 651.73.30.XT910.NonEFIGSRetail.en.EU

I would like to install ROM from zip, by CWM on boot :)

Can u help me? I'll be grateful.

P.S. I need Polish language in ROM
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tomoooo:
Good one. :-)))))
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jms_uk:
@Onslaught, Kholk or anyone who might know :)

After reading up a load, and with Motorola showing no signs of pushing the update to UK users I figured what the heck and took the plunge flashing 651.167.19 via Kholk's Fla**** tool. I was originally on stock, un rooted 651.73.30 EnEu etc..

It all seemed to be going well (except for an error at the beginning of the process to do with the Logo file), everything else went through ok and it completed. On then rebooted and eventually went to a green android next to a yellow exclamation mark! I cr*pped myself thinking I'd bricked the phone but did a reset (power+vol down) and the phone rebooted just fine.

Everything seems ok now, but is this normal behavior for flashing via this method? Or is the phone rebooting properly now and seemingly ok, an indication I'm ok overall?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ectodroid:
You can try to use the RSD tool, worked for me :)

Going from same version as you, to .19
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jms_uk:
Well it all seems to be working fine now (after using Kholk's fla**** tool).. just wanted to understand why I got the yellow exclamation mark in the first place? And if there are potential complications further down the line as a result... :|
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Yep, that's normal behaviour - that's actually the stock Recovery mode, for some odd reason Moto decided adding an extra step was a great idea. You have to press both volume buttons on that screen to bring up the standard recovery menu. There's a reboot option is at the top from there. Or, well, rebooting manually does the trick too - as you've found out. :)

One thing about Fla**** is that it won't update webtop as-is (that logo.bin business is another easy fix, but not a big concern). Kholk included the regular ADB files in Fla****, but because non-Moto phones don't usually have gigantic webtop partitions, regular flavour ADB won't send files over a certain size. There's a modified Moto-specific version of ADB that'll fix that if you use webtop, if you don't it doesn't really matter.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jms_uk:
Phew, thanks for that Onslaught86. :)

Don't use webtop so no issues there.. although the info echoed to the Windows Command prompt window during the process showed Webtop updating ok - it did it in 5 blocks of approx. 250mb, but no error messages were shown..

In any case, does *not* updating it all the way through (including Logo.bin) mean i may get issues if/when ICS gets pushed out by Moto in Q2?

**EDIT** If I wanted to be a completist and ensure the webtop updated as well, would it be as straightforward as replacing adbWinAPI.dll and AdbWinUsbApi.dll that

comes with Fla**** with the Moto specific ones and re-flashing?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
I think it's to do with the reassembly of those files as well as the sending - as you say, there aren't any errors, but it definitely does not update webtop properly. I recently decided to try downgrading to 2.3.5 so I could go back to the 150.1 OTA to see if battery life was any better than on 160.19, but couldn't for the life of me get the OTA to apply to the shipped 2.3.5 stock ROM due to a webtop file error - I knew I hadn't modified webtop intentionally, and sure enough it still displayed the version included in 167.19 in the settings/about menu even though I'd downgraded to 2.3.5. That was because I'd flashed 167.19 using RSD, which does flash webtop properly, but is currently useless to me because of the new bootloader preventing downgrades (Hence my using Fla**** for everything now).

Ack, got my SDK utilities mixed up - it's Fastboot that's modified, not ADB! Apologies. The ADB DLL files are the same, it's just the .exe file you need to swap out for the Motorola version. I'll attach the one I'm using (Apparently specifically for 32-bit Windows) to this post. Just replace the eprj-mfastboot.exe with the moto-fastboot.exe, and rename the new file to eprj-mfastboot.

The only issue that could arise from not having the 'correct' webtop files for the stock ROM you're running is if an OTA needs to be applied to that specific stock ROM - the version check will fail if the webtop files don't match the rest of it, which is what happened to me.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jms_uk:
Thanks once again. It looks like to be certain I'm in good shape for any future OTA from Moto, I should sort out that webtop file. Thanks for the attachment :)

** EDIT ** BTW, did you notice any battery life differences between the two roms you tried?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Slightly better battery on 150.1, but not really good enough to warrant the effort. Have switched to 167.19 again, not least for performance, and am trying a few more things to reduce my hefty drain - getting down to 20% after a day at work just isn't good enough for my needs. That kernel bypass can't come soon enough.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] antho_ie:
Nice easy flash, little different to the 150 version but best improvement (for me anyway) is smart action triggers improved to include docks.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jms_uk:
Interesting. With moderate use, on the old firmware 651.73.30.. widgets syncing, email, a few calls and texts etc. I get a solid 2-2.5 days between charges (I have a smart action that shuts everything down overnight when the phone's not really being used anyway)..

Will be curious to see if that improves with 651.167.19 :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sexywacko:
is it only me or did everyone else get the bloatware: Need For Speed, amazon kindle, and some other crap i dont need?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
I use my phone a lot. Data is always on, three email accounts are set to push, and I listen to a lot of music throughout the workday. Twitter, Facebook, and Google Plus get a fair bit of use, as does the XDA app, a few news apps, and browsing with Opera. As mentioned, hit ~20% by the time I get home, with usually around 2 hours screen-on time. It's not quite as good as I'd like. The Galaxy S II had much better battery life (Especially with the 2000mAh OEM extended battery), as did the Galaxy S before it and the HD2 before that. Can't shake the feeling that Moto's bloated firmware coupled with the stock kernel are to blame. Ho-hum.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
Anyone got it in Sweden?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] geemacd:
Well I got tired of waiting and decided to do with the RSD method some of you guys used and it went as sweet as a very sweet thing that only contains sugar !!!

However, now I have lost my Root even though I thought I had done everything correct using Voodoo Rootkeeper.

So I have tried to re-root again using Doomlord V2 package, but I dont think its taken

Superuser is still there as before as is razr bootstrapper app, but when I click on bootstrap recovery in the app, I get a failure message about error running exec( ) .command:(long string name in here) Working directory null environment:null

EDIT UPDATE : - I have tried to root again and I see while watching the screen, that its just lines saying unable to chmod : no such file or directory & failed to copy superuser.apk as its a write only file system

Anyone help me out to get root and then cwm on boot back ? If its a help, found this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1341578&page=28

where the errors others are getting seem to be the same as mine, will have a hunt for this Motofail they are talking about
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Yeah, you have to use motofail to root 2.3.6. Topic's in the dev section.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] circleofomega:
Got it today morning. Gonna update it as I reach office... :)

BTW its 65.1.40.en.03

So will this be 2.3.6??

Sent from my Droid RaZr.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Terra1:
Yea, got it early today in Australia.

65.1.40

2.3.6

So far all works well.

Phone is rooted and kept root after OTA.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] lunzi88:
So what you are saying is that root keeper will not work on this particular OTA updated?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Weird, I just got 167.21 through the Motocast USB program yesterday.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sedariya11:
Today its rolling out as I got it now.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stunno:
Yes I did too in the UK. Funnily enough the changelog was in german but contained the same info as the earlier one after translation.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Has anyone figured out how to extract these OTAs? If not, might be worth trying before ICS hits, heh.

What builds did people come from to receive this OTA, anyway?

Heh, yeah, still not exactly sure what was updated there. Only 15MB.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jms_uk:
I updated this morning. Upgraded from 651.167.19 (that I did with your help).. seemed to go through fine, even though I never got round to re-flashing .167.19 with whatever fix was required to stop the logo.bin issue.. you said it was minor, so I never bothered :)

Interestingly enough, it seems like moto want to bury their heads in the sand about getting the 167.19 and above updates to other european customers (they deleted a post I made on their forums discussing it). I've heard that it isn't coming because only Germans needed the update to get around a patent disupute regarding the lock screen.. no doubt Moto have probably deemed that there's an un-necessary cost/resource issue with rolling out the update further, when ICS is supposedly coming soon..

Doesn't get round the fact that a valid update IS there and so far at least, does contain benefits.. As such, its pretty lame that users who can't get .167.19 (and above) without a manual flash because they want to stay "official" and are waiting patiently for an OTA that'll never come, are missing out on some enhancements, and fixes... Additionally, they're also missing out on smart action upgrades - its upto v2.1.1.0 now - which contain a LOT of fixes over Smart Actions v1.x that they're stuck with :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
How curious, so did I. Why on earth would they distribute two different updates for the same revision? Through two different methods, no less? Bizarre.