yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
I think what blk_jack is trying to say is that it's wrong to take someone's work, call it your own (even with credits added), and then take a few other apks from market able apps (which is considered bloatware).

I've been taught that this is can be called plagiarism when writing papers, and changing a few little things (such as wording in a paper) does not make it not it not plagiarism. What xT4Z1N4TRx is doing goes along with the saying "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" because you are lashing out against those people who do give you a base. I recognize that you may of helped others in the past. I remember the port, and the sdk port by siulmagic, mostly because I was in his IRC channel, but trying to say that just because you helped out with early ICS process gives you the right to plagiarise is just giving a false sense of direction.

I'm not trying to add to the argument, I'm just showing the lesson on how stealing others work is wrong.

Also KyraOfFire benchmark apps are not the way to prove much, and that difference is not that big, that could of been just because that run had an off or on score, over clocking, numerous quadrant hacks (had a friend that could raise the score 300 points by a hack that meant nothing). the governors being used, or numerous other reasons. However others have took apart the rom just to make sure it was the same rom as andromadus (well same as built).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KyraOfFire:
People, you need to get your facts straight!

plagiarism is NOT illegal

Copyright Infringement IS illegal.

These ROM are not copyrighted, they are from an open source project, they cannot be copy righted. And no single group ever wrote the entire ROM themselves, they change the source base on their needs.

I believe the fact that this ROM is basically based on Adromadus, optimised with a few scripts, added things has been stated numerous occasion, even in the OP. People have used this ROM, liked it, voted for it.

If you feel that what Taz does (to have a donation link in his signature, NOT the OP, NOT specific for his ROM, or to make this ROM) is unethical, I don't think this is the place to discuss.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blk_jack:
I never mentioned the legality of it. I was actually disproving the fact that there were any optimization in the latest version. If you want to package a few apks together into a flashable zip, creating an entirely new ROM is not the way to do it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Actually it is illegal (not in this sense though) in the United States where these servers are based, and where you are from...

See : http://www.plagiarism.org/plag_article_what_is_plagiarism.html

However blk_jack is right, the legality is not important..It's the fact that it's morally wrong to do so
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KyraOfFire:
well, that legality post is actually for Cimer. He apparently didn't listen carefully when the prof talk about plagiarism :D

Optimization and development wise, I kinda agree with you, but I like this ROM anyways :D

Edit:Cimer , look at my info please, it has an US flag!

and good work for citing an uncredited page too man! iParadigms LLC is surely the people who know best about legal matters and they sure work independently, unbiased to create common good!

Plagiarism is NOT stated as an illegal act by any legal document. If you challenge this statement, cite a LAW.

mean while, as I stated, "These ROM are not copyrighted, they are from an open source project, they cannot be copyrighted." It is not illegal even if I just change the name of audacityb2.zip then publish as kyraoffire.zip the credit it to adromadus. I will be yelled at a bit though :D

Edit2: legality is fact (well, kinda, judges, especially SCOPTUS can change legality). Morality is opinion. I do not side with anyone, I just want YOU, Cimer, to get your facts straight.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
My main post did not mention any legal facts about Plagiarism, I just said it was wrong. Making mountains out of mole hills, you're kinda chasing your own tail here...

Also this rom is violating rule 12...*shrugs*
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KyraOfFire:
sorry, I talked as if your post had any facts.

gj for changing original post.

I am off. It has gone for from developing related.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
so... back on topic... im working on version 3... will have changes.... sorry for inconvenience....
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fermunky:
I was also going to suggest going back on topic. If it makes any difference, I had numerous problems on 2.0 so went back to 1.3, and now I am on 2.1 and am not experiencing any of the previous issues, even after restoring Data from my backup.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
1. blk_jack is correct in what he says about the current version of this rom.

2. I don't have the time nor inclanation to look at previous versions as it would serve no purpose.

3. xT4Z1N4TRx did ask me if it was ok to base a rom on Andromadus, my reply was something along the lines of that the source was open and available to use and if it was a build from source I didn't have a problem with it. With the latest release at least this does not seem to be the case and in my opinion would have been handled better as a flashable mod.

4. I have taken this to PM and we can hopefully sort this out and get back to more important things.

Nick.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Yep me and Flinny are sorting it, so let's stay on topic now.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MarkyG82:
Can I also make a request to have the launcher in system? Just seems tidier to me. No other reason really.

Just to add to the placebo chat. Even if it is nearly the same as AAB2, I think it is faster. And there have been studies that show belief can have a real physical affect.

Looking forward to the next update. Or even a Miui v4 if you get one going.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
I'll do that in next version

Also yeah I'm still thinking of an miui v4 build but dunno

Infact, I may stop this, its more effort than its worth imo, andromadus is already great, I might just make flashable zips for it tbh, the same way bulletproof miui did
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MarkyG82:
That could be a great idea. I spouse it depends on how much you are changing on each version. Would a flash able zip be OK if half the framework was changed. I'm still learning so only a dev could know. Either way I like what you do.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jspina:
I don't know how useful it would be since it is out dated but you can do whatever you wish with my port to help things get started. I know you will (if you do it) get much much further than I did.

I hope all goes well with what you plan to do with this rom. I think that it is faster and more usable but it isn't worth a big fight or argument of opinions. You could do a vote but that would just be more opinions going around.

Thanks for all you have done for this and your other roms! :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Poll added!

Poll will end on the 12th, so that will decide the fate of this rom! ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] waqypaqy:
Why has 2.1 link been removed? Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nickeedoo:
Yeah... bascuse me... where it done gone off to!?!?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] willham:
I cant do anything with this rom....... browser has stopped, music has stopped, play store has stopped, settings has stopped. I was really liking this rom but its driving me crazy!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 2stardiver:
I have this play store FC problem, in 2.1.

reboot didnt help.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jspina:
You should run fix permissions because everything is running fine for me.

Sent from my ics powered phone with its ics powered owner
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] 2stardiver:
strange, I did use about week between 1.3 and this 2.1 Ice Cream SENSEwich Beta4 rom, and mms did work with that sense rom, but not with this 2.1.

I change to this because camera really works, I need more camera than mms...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
I've decided I will just make this into an addon pack, its easier for me, and I'll include what I normally would have with JIBwich, and now I can do it quicker, and start an miui rom :). So......................................

Welcome to the One Stop Jib Shop!(pending decision upon poll, finishing April 12th)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] celahudini:
Dunno if U can call it a bug tbh but whenever I charge my DZ regardless if by AC or USB,as soon as the battery hits 90% the led turns from orange to green like it's fully charged and it's been that way since 1.0

Any ideas?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MarkyG82:
That is how it works on ics with the dz/g2. Some like it, some don't.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] hendos43:
Given your real-life commitments, it seems like it would be much easier to maintain a flashable .zip over Andromadus' ROM - his will change very quickly, and your aptitude for general optimisation would still be able to exist.

As far as making a standalone ROM is concerned, I think you should try your hand at Sense, and perhaps of the same ilk as Virtuous Team's ROMs. Perhaps try getting in contact with them and see if they could use your help?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nickeedoo:
Hey Taz, can you go ahead and put the link for 2.1 back up? I'd love to take a crack at it!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
Wats the difference between browaser and ics+ browser?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] s0undless:
Hey there

I just flashed your ROM and I'm very pleased with it so far but I noticed that Full Device Encryption doesn't seem to work...you only get to the Screen with the Green Android but there is no percentage or any other Text displayed.

I was curious so I fired up logcat while encrypting it and this is what came out:

I/ActivityManager( 1418): START {cmp=com.android.settings/.CryptKeeperConfirm$Blank (has extras)} from pid 3016

D/dalvikvm( 3016): GC_FOR_ALLOC freed 96K, 3% free 10591K/10887K, paused 29ms

I/dalvikvm-heap( 3016): Grow heap (frag case) to 10.973MB for 501736-byte allocation

D/dalvikvm( 3016): GC_CONCURRENT freed 558K, 8% free 10522K/11399K, paused 3ms+4ms

D/PhoneStatusBar( 1498): disable: < EXPAND* ICONS* ALERTS* ticker SYSTEM_INFO* BACK* HOME* RECENT* clock >

D/memalloc( 1296): /dev/pmem: Allocated buffer base:0x41619000 size:1536000 offset:19415040 fd:29

D/memalloc( 3016): /dev/pmem: Mapped buffer base:0x5e1fe000 size:20951040 offset:19415040 fd:49

D/memalloc( 1296): /dev/pmem: Allocated buffer base:0x41619000 size:1536000 offset:8663040 fd:32

D/memalloc( 3016): /dev/pmem: Mapped buffer base:0x5d33c000 size:10199040 offset:8663040 fd:58

I/ActivityManager( 1418): Displayed com.android.settings/.CryptKeeperConfirm$Blank: +217ms

D/OpenGLRenderer( 3016): Flushing caches (mode 0)

D/memalloc( 3016): /dev/pmem: Unmapping buffer base:0x62960000 size:19415040 offset:17879040

D/memalloc( 3016): /dev/pmem: Unmapping buffer base:0x64fdf000 size:22487040 offset:20951040

D/memalloc( 3016): /dev/pmem: Unmapping buffer base:0x66551000 size:24023040 offset:22487040

D/memalloc( 1296): /dev/pmem: Freeing buffer base:0x42a14000 size:1536000 offset:20951040 fd:56

D/memalloc( 1296): /dev/pmem: Freeing buffer base:0x42b8b000 size:1536000 offset:22487040 fd:59

D/memalloc( 1296): /dev/pmem: Freeing buffer base:0x42726000 size:1536000 offset:17879040 fd:26

D/VoldCmdListener( 1292): cryptfs enablecrypto inplace {}
[COLOR="Red"][U]
E/Cryptfs ( 1292): Orig filesystem overlaps crypto footer region. Cannot encrypt in place.[/U][/COLOR]

D/memalloc( 1296): /dev/pmem: Allocated buffer base:0x41619000 size:1536000 offset:10199040 fd:26

D/memalloc( 3016): /dev/pmem: Mapped buffer base:0x5fc24000 size:11735040 offset:10199040 fd:61

D/memalloc( 1296): /dev/pmem: Allocated buffer base:0x41619000 size:1536000 offset:11735040 fd:35

D/memalloc( 3016): /dev/pmem: Mapped buffer base:0x60755000 size:13271040 offset:11735040 fd:64

My guess would be the marked red text, seems to be fixed on other devices with a 2.36.XXXXXX kernel.

I would be glad to hear the Devs opinion on this since this a great ROM, but I would really like to be able to encrypt my Phone since it's a key Feature in the ICS Firmware for me.

Thanks

soundless

Official Android Bug Reports:

h**p://groups.google.com/group/android-security-discuss/browse_thread/thread/c3eaf253d46b1e30

Fix for Asus Transformer:

h**p://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=18229
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ajhavery:
It would happen with any aosp rom and not only ICS, it is the default setting.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fermunky:
So, since this is based on Andromadus, can I backup 2.1, wipe everything, flash Andromadus and gapps, then restore just data from this ROM?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blk_jack:
You can just flash andromadus over without wiping. It will just keep the additional apks installed.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fermunky:
Oh, even better. Thanks! Gonna give it a shot in case Taz stops maintaining this as a full rom

Edit: Well, good thing I did a backup.Tried first just flashing audacity over it all. Some apps had the green droid, indicating it was gone, and Google Play would not open. Tried just restoring Data, same thing. Went back into recovery, ran super wipe, installed audacity, gapps, restored Data, and all is running seemingly without issue at the moment.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dgreat1:
wifi

Rom looks great, however wifi is not working.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] KyraOfFire:
check if you logged-in to the net work? Your wifi access points may/may not be restored (it usually should be, but I found myself have to restore it manually for this build too)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dgreat1:
?

does anyone have a link for version 2.1
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Just use audacity
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
Is it just me or is the battery life bad for this Rom?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Rozza C:
Probably just you...

But define 'bad'...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lostsoul77:
Won't flash on a G2 running Desire Z hboot

Hey all,

quick question (i'm from the Evo 4G side). I tried flashing this on my cousin's G2; I previously put the Desire hboot on the phone so that she could run MIKRunny. I'm getting some assert failure error similar to what is shown below. I'm guessing that I will need to revert back to the G2 bootloader. If so, will this require me to have to root the phone again or is there a way around this issue? Running Clockwork Recovery (not sure which version, the menu is blue).

"assert failed: getprop("ro.product.device") == "vivo" || getprop("ro.build.product") == "vivo

E:Error in /sdcard/jibwich-2.0.zip (Status 7)

Installation aborted."

Thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
From that it looks like you are trying to flash an inc S rom. You should be able to use the g2 or dz hboot with this rom
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lostsoul77:
Trying to flash this Ice Cream JIBwich 2.0 rom and recieving that error when flashing in recovery.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
Try a different rom, not a multi device one though. Something andromadus or cm7 and see what happens. If you get the same error come to virtuousrom irc. There is a link in my sig
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] lostsoul77:
I tried Andromadus and same error. I flashed this on my other cousin's G2 with no problems at all; only difference is he is running the G2 bootloader and not the Desire bootloader.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] cjward23:
Do you have a nandroid. Restore a back up and either download rom manager from the market or 4ext updater from www.4ext.net. net and make sure you have an up to date recovery. Then try again
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
My battery drains like crazy.I only get like 6 hours of battery when I used to have 10 hours running sense. I wiped dalvic cache and battery stats twice already.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] MarkyG82:
Wooaahhh. Heavy user alert :)

I am not having any major battery life issues with this. Try doing standard battery save things (reduce clock speed and number of widgets, and monitor connections). If you are still having major issues then try audacity B2 on the same settings. jib 2.1 and audacity B2 are very similar so if you get different battery life, it'll be something in this rom.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Guys. Just use Audacity, I'm making this into a small flashable zip so you'll actually be better off
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] buzzcz:
Sorry if it's stupid question but does it mean that you are not developig this rom?? So no new versions?? I really liked 2.0 so I'd appreciate new ones ;) :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
I'll be making flashable zips to flash over audacity so really you'd be using it anyway
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] knightslay2:
Can you fix the music player? It always says it closes. Contact doesn't either
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] yelti:
Thanks for the rom.

I used untill version 2.0 because of a lot FC's.

Now I'm on andromeadus, but I miss some of the tweaks.

I hope you either keep it as a rom or an add-on, but a rom is probably more stable.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Skyliner90:
Root & Install Rom

Hi could somebody please help me? I want to install this rom for a girlfriend of mine. But her phone still needs to be rooted. And i dont know how to root her phone. Could someone please explain how i would go about doing that? :)

Also install this rom trough CWM 5?

Thanks in advance, Sky
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] fermunky:
Been running Audacity now for a few days, and even after using V6 Supercharger, it is laggy and buggy as hell. Luckily I saved the 2.1 zip as that was the best for me. Going back to this ROM. Please update this thread when you've decided which route you're gonna take with your tweaks.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Rozza C:
Pretty sure there's a thread somewhere for that on here.

Might be worth having a look for it.

Sent using 100% of my brain power..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Skyliner90:
Never mind already figured it out. Rooted & S-Off via ADB. The olde fashion way. This phone is a pain in the ass, but with this rom its awesome. One request though for next future update could you make one zip with rom + gapps in it? Thx fir this great rom! :D
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] bogdan5844:
GApps included in the ROM wouldn't be possible. Tweaks + Gapps in the same zip, maybe.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mikevaldivieso:
Plagiarism and Copyright Infringement: Is Copying Illegal?

You've heard some teachers say that it's always wrong to copy someone else's work. They ruthlessly check your papers for plagiarism. Other teachers say that it's all right as long as you give credit to the original author. Who's right?

To answer this question, we have to think about the difference between plagiarism and copyright infringement. Take a look at these definitions from The Council Chronicle for English teachers:

Plagiarism is using someone else's work without giving proper credit - a failure to cite adequately.

Copyright infringement is using someone else's creative work, which can include a song, a video, a movie clip, a piece of visual art, a photograph, and other creative works, without authorization or compensation, if compensation is appropriate.

Schools enforce plagiarism.

The courts enforce copyright infringement. 1

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bahaha

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what happened to version 2.1? And why was the download link taken down? I'm dying for an update lol
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] RJx307:
I'm using 1.2 and MMS is not working,

Anyone aware of any fixes?

I'm using handcent sms but tried stock client and am on vodafone AU(Tried the proper apn settings).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] buzzcz:
Any update??

Hi,

I just want to ask if you are making any update. ROM or flashable zip because I really like using your ROM, for me it's the best optimised "clean" ICS. And as for version 2.1, why is the link removed??

Thanks ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Broman400:
Any update on this?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sgtkid12:
Not right now. the op has tests to study for
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chimmycham:
I'm going to root and install a ROM for the first time on my G2 (which i've had basically since it was released).

This ROM seems to be the one to use for now.

Anyone disagree?

If so, why?

(it seems that there are issues with the camera in each of the other ROMS)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kéno40:
No, the dev stopped working on it for months!

The best ICS ROM with a good working camera is the andromadus.

Maybe the last Miui are good too, but I haven't try it for a while...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] rc_enzo:
Let me tell you, that practically any rom on Gingerbread (Android 2.3.*) has a working camera. For 4.0 thats different, since HTC hasn't released the correct libs (yet). Devs had to make their own, and somewhat succeeded in doing so. If you want to play safe, look at Sense or MIUI on Android 2.3.*.

If you're heading for Ice Cream Sandwich, I recommend you to look at the two biggest Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs for the G2: Andromadus Audacity and Cyanogenmod 9.0.0. Both fully working camera (apart from 720p recording), but have some differences between them.

Good way of selecting your ROMs is via the compilation-thread, which is stickied to the top of the forum.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chimmycham:
Thanks guys.

I was under the impression that those 2 both had blurry or non-functional cameras.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] The Android Manual:
Music App

The music app does not work for me dude :) :(:(
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crestofawave:
This ROM is outdated, and practically indifferent from Andromadus Audacity. If you want to try ICS, your best best is Audacity.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] mazdarati2:
wait is this jelly bean?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] The Android Manual:
Nope this is Ice Cream Sandwich bro Android 4.0.3:)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] SnowOokami:
thanks for the update! seems to be working fine :) wiped the cache & dalvik and then updated.

how can you set a new camera app as default?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crestofawave:
Bummer, I have to wait for my phone to charge.

Sent from my DZ.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Music player is glitchy for me, anyone else? If so I will change the music player in next version
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] SnowOokami:
No idea.... but sometimes I get a message "Gallery is not responding"
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] deaththeorist:
Hey!!! i saw that CM messaging app is coming over, and i saw "tell me what you want" and i thought why not give this request a shot?

would it be remotely possible that u bring in the MIUI messaging app? thats about the only thing that keeps me from going from MIUI to this! i really like the way miui handles new message popups!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Kéno40:
Is it made "on" the CM9 music app?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Flinny:
Your quadrant score screenshot doesn't appear to exist :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] noneabove:
Any chance you can throw in some stuff for the symbols key ? :) very impressive though, good work!