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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
First off, how you took anything I said as promotion for a hierarchy among the community boggles my mind but it also helps me understand why you keep taking sextape's comments out of context.

Secondly, I never suggested the input of anyone wasn't important but I did suggest, and stand by, the difference between helping and hindering.

Finally, no one is throwing a temper tantrum and taking their ballss and going home. This is a discussion that is, so far, humming along in a mature manner.

Distributing leaks to a controlled group of testers isn't cheating the community out of anything, in fact it might make people happier in the long run because the leak that finally gets released might be one devoid of common bugs that drive people insane.

Every voice in this community matters, there's no argument there. But there is a valid argument for setting up a testing group to better help the flow of leaks and squashing of bugs, especially if the powers that be at Samsung/Sprint are keeping an eye on this forum. The less crap they have to read through the quicker they can get to the fixes suggested by our incredible development gang.

Don't read anger into my words, nor assume I am getting *worked up*, I take all this in stride but if I think something would better serve the community then I will discuss it passionately. Also, I don't take things personally so always be blunt when dealing with me, I'm a big girl I can handle it. ;)

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lol I think he was aiming at me, not sextape and unfortunately I have nothing to do with leaks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Esotoric68, the point isn't that we frown on giving it to a few people to test or whatever. The point is, you don't say you are only giving to certain people and rubbing it in everyone else face.

If you want to just keep it amongst friends than go for it. But, just keep it to yourself. It was never mentioned this was for testing purposes. It was just said if I get it I will only give it to my friends.

And no, that was not aimed at you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Exactly. Don't rub a benevolent attitude of passing it out to those you deem worthy and expect the masses to swallow that pill with no animosity.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stevetrooper:
I want to say thanks to everyone involved in leaking these builds to us. I have really enjoyed being part of the testing.

Ever since I upgraded to FE22 the 10 min snooze has been working as it should. So thanks Samsung for fixing this!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
I feel bad for the guy who hasn't checked this thread in a few days. If you are reading guy here is a recap of the last few days : Scrolling is bad/good/get used to it, Samsung feels unappreciated, The natives are restless, A a new secret dev club is forming, No OTA or source yet.

Happy Friday everybody my afternoon will be spent clearing out and recycling the technology museum that is our org office while I rock the super secret release of FF01 on my E4GT :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I understand that but I didn't read sextape's comment the same way.

I still feel there is a valid argument for a control group of testers on XDA, and don't think I'm advocating this because I assume I'd be part of it, it just makes a lot of sense to me. I guess I just find it kind of off putting that it would need to be done in secrecy because people might get mad or feel they were being cheated out of something we aren't really supposed to have to begin with.

I see both sides of the argument and prior to the past 5 months I would've been more squarely on the side saying "gimmie gimmie, I deserve this" but after watching the board, flashing the leaks, watching the bug threads, communicating with everyone from Developers to average joe posters I have a whole new perspective on the matter.

I'm not trying to shake things up, just trying to help find a way to smooth out the process for everyone in the community.

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lol Enjoy your Friday, be careful not to prick yourself on an old mother board.

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I'm adding his original quote so I am sure we are talking about the same thing.

See that's where context makes a difference, I in no way saw his comment as rubbing it in and trust me, sextape and I have butted heads before lol

Anyway I've said my piece (and my peace? lol) I'm going to actually do some work now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
You see how anxious people are just speculating that the leaks are out there, do you not see how much worse it would be if they knew that a hand full of people here had it and were keeping it from them? It's better for them to speculate than to know and feel jaded.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
Here's Imaginos, in Salmon Brook and very concerned about leaks last night..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rrmzr1:
So I'm now guessing leaks will be private from this point on because of complaints. Damn... that's dissapointing. Anyway its explained.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
Stop complaining! They'll make them moar privater!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
lol Don't panic, for the record there is more than one source of leaks. What's being discussed here is just that, a discussion, no one (that I know of) is making any change to the way things are done.

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Now that's funny lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] willi150:
thanks to everyone

I have to say the only reason I purchased my E4GT was because I saw all of the action going on in regard to ICS for this phone. So glad I purchased this phone I have never even used gingerbread on this phone but some great work has been done by the devs on this. Great improvement from each leak!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
That's some stupid ****, and really goes against the whole point of this site.

An elitist group? Seriously?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] d_willia:
Can everyone please take a breath? Get your hat and sunscreen, put on your shades and locate the light source outside your window. Go buy a hammock, set it up under a tree and relax there with a beer for the next few hours. If the rom gets leaked, it gets leaked. If a copy is made available to you, then great. If not, then the OTA will be out soon enough. Your phones are not going to self-destruct if they don't get ICS by 5pm.

I for one am glad that Samsung cares enough about its customers to provide updates to our phones. I am ecstatic that a company has finally recognized the value of a community like XDA by providing leaks for feedback. Just like everyone else, I can't wait for ICS on this phone. But no one should feel they have the right to an OTA, much less a rom leak. I understand how valuable these leaks are to this community and the feedback is to Samsung, but there are no rules guiding the process for leaking a rom. If you must be critical, try to be constructive. (damn, I hate being the voice of reason)

Now, go buy a hammock.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rrmzr1:
Phew... I only can hope. The sad thing is I understand the frustration of the person providing the leaks. Sadly he is right.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] d_willia:
That's the funniest damn thing I've seen in a month. I actually laughed out loud. Immediately, I think of Sheldon Cooper.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I love Sheldon Cooper lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] animal7296:
And from what I hear he could possibly love you back.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VanillaG0rilla:
Shelly Cooper is a smelly pooper...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DCRocks:
It is not like this would be a new development... ROFL!

I do see the point of those that say it may be better to only give the leaks to a select few, not that I would like that much,but I do understand, more so given the issue with the ICS leak that existed with a 100% stock leak that bricked phones

Still, like others have said, this is just a discussion, and everyone should just enjoy the weekend and relax.

Hopefully, IMO, there will be NO MORE LEAKS, as that would mean the OTA is right around the corner.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reddragon72:
So now I'm confused. I just read the last, nearly, four pages only to discover no info about the topic.

But in my reading I have came to a conclusion. Sextape has created 4+ pages of complaints about not releasing a leak only because he is tired of people complaining about leaks not getting out timely......

That is the most ironic thing ever! And the bad part is he never answers to people complaining a leak hasn't been released, but he will answer to people calling him out about not leaking thusly creating two separate yet exactly the same kind of complainers. Now I have went from ironic to a gluten for punishment.

LOL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Releasing a Leak to a chosen few is pure BS! period.

Its like when I released WOAT OEM/KMS Activator back then, I receive lots and lots of complaints about it not doing this or that well and not because that I said well I will remove the tool form the OP/Forums etc. and if you want it you need to PM me and I will see if you deserve it base on your past comments BS!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I hate to argue semantics but, um, leaks are released to a chosen few lol the builds from those leaks are what is released to the masses.

The majority of us wouldn't know what to do with the leaks to get it into a working format, that's why we have developers to work their magic.

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lol Truly the best comedy (maybe even show) on TV right now.

Best drama, Game of Thrones
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
The "leak" Build then it's what I meant, in that case. thanks for the info as always.;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackinjun:
Has anyone heard when SfHub will have FE26 up?

Just joking, Lets see who reads this entire post before responding negatively
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ben's:
Once the OTA comes out, people will get off their high horse and will be remembered as what they did last, to each controls how they are perceived.

As to the whiny *****es, for god sakes STFU and let me read some on topic literature. Does everyone who has a E4GT go on their period at the same time?

Be thankful for what you have, be thankful for the great developers who put in their time to bring you happiness and for once, show some damn patience and gratitude.

I speak for not only myself but for others that no one cares about your immature " where's my diaper " posts.

Damn, I really feel like ***** slapping someone right now :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
My pleasure :D

I noticed in my posts I was doing the same thing, so lol on me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] andrewqueen:
Who wants to play draw something with me?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
I have my hammock.

But what do I do with my hammock?

I don't like that my hammock is white...

Can I change my hammock to be a sleeping bag?

But what if I don't have trees to hang my hammock?

But, I have my hammock...

(BTW, This thread made for a good read on a Friday! BEEEER time!)

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Heard he was out for a month. Dunno if his remote access for himself to back home worked.. Dunno.. :cool:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
I have read your entire post and id say between a month and a month of uploading :p That dude is playing secret agent man somewhere.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I suck at drawing lol besides I wanna go hang out with the hammock guy or Imaginos on the shore of that pond. Perfect way to wrap up a Friday (next to installing a new ROM complete with source! lol)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
You're welcome to come out and paddle. Gonna pour like mad in NE for the next few days, so I an loading a boat on the roof and gonna enjoy whatever moonlight we can get with a few peeps over several brews.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rgregg504:
I say lock this ***** up for a day so everyone can calm down. I think if someone actually had fe26 it would have made its way to the masses by now, unless sfhub got it, in which case didn't i hear that he's away for a bit so that would explain that. Cut them a break, if someone has it I'm sure its being held back for a reason.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I rock at paddling! lol And that scenario you just painted sounds fantastic. Have a fantastic weekend.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sleshepic:
That's funny, my gf has a replenish, I rooted it for her to get some more functionality, she complains about it but she gets like 2 days of heavy use out of it before it dies
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tommydaniel:
Tmo's GSII will be getting ICS on June 11th. They announced on their twitter. Hopefully we aren't far behind.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tmeader:
Just wondering, since the official GSII ICS builds were all based on 4.0.3, are the other carriers going to be based off the older software you think, or will they be taking advantage somehow of all the work that went into this testing?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tommydaniel:
The last few builds for our phone has been 4.0.4. I would imagine Samsung would be updating them all to the same.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] madocs:
Tantrum or not, I take mine with me everywhere I go. ;)

Esoteric you need to get a moderator tag, I like you.

Some of the sourness (from some) of late makes it seem like people are going through withdrawal. Makes sense I guess, most of us are addicted. Addiction also makes some sense - it all starts with crack (root).

- original ****e, sent from a thingy
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sdglenn:
Are we talking about a leak or crack? Better question who is having withdrawals? Lets settle down
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
I imagine this official announcement will set a fire under Sprint's @$$ to get their's out first. I'm expecting them to make a counter announcement soon.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ind3lible:
Let's hope so!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Just a guess, but I'm thinking OTA roll out starting on the 8th.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] donnyespo:
here's a link to the news.

http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-ice-cream-sandwich-june-11
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
I have remote access. Mailmen seem to be on strike though because nothing has been delivered for many days.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] &roid:
I was going to remote access you a beer, but couldn't find the donate button...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
We'll be happy to go pick it up and deliver it to you, just need directions ;)

So then hopefully this is a good sign, nothing new to deliver because they're tying up loose ends. lol We can always hope.

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lol Thanks for sharing and I agree that lately we're like junkies needing a fix.

I appreciate the comments and the confidence. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
Christ, I sold back my ns4g with ics (bugless beast) on it and didn't and don't miss pure ics in any way. A lot of people are going to be heavily disappointed when the final comes out. The ics mole hill has been made into a mountain. Once people finally get it, many are going to be like, "I got all worked up over THIS?"

I might stay on gb for the same reason I run xp. They both are sufficient and responsive to use. The phones are just like the computers. Faster cpus, gpus, and buses and gobs more of faster ram and more storage. Why? Because the oses are getting bigger and fatter and need bigger hardware to run up to speed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] uarefunnytome:
I Needs My ICS fix ... The Twitching Is Getting Real Bad ... Where Is My Leak Baby (Dave Chapelle Voice)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ClutchR1:
That is the mantra of this site. Huge anticipation and excitement until phone/os comes out, then once it's out it's time for the next "thing". At the end of the day, it's just a phone. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] uarefunnytome:
It's Not Just a Phone It Is "We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious."
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ghostzyden:
I loved my ns4g with ics, it was smooth as butter and better battery life and lots of customization on most builds;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Maybe, but many of us have test driven ICS and were pleased with the overall look and feel of it. Granted the leaks had bugs, but they were alpha/beta builds and that's to be expected.

I looked forward to testing out each build for myself and reporting what I found. It made me feel like a worthwhile member of the community. When the OTA comes out and that journey is over, hopefully I'll have the opportunity to be a part of the next.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
+1 and again thank you sextape for your dedication and hard work

Posted via XDA BLU from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my E4GT...The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.5!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
I see that some people took over where I left off. (golf clap)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Tmos ICS is 4.0.4, really hope Sprint doesn't pull a Sprint and drop the ball at the goal line again!

Posted via XDA BLU from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my E4GT...The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.5!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mdeathike:
This made me laugh so loud at work just not
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Quit kissing ass so that you're included in his "in crowd," LOL!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
I think a bigger part of me is to see what the devs do with it as that's what really brings me to XDA...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Same here. Because I've tried out all the leaks and most of the custom ROMs I feel like I have a pretty good feel for ICS but I'm really eager to see what my favorite ROMs are like powered by source.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
So now it is just the waiting game...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
whats your preferred/daily at the moment?

just curious...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fatboypup:
looking to flash something decent on the wifes e3d im so bored lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
I guess FE26 wasn't the final build:

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D710/FF02.rdf
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
Lol here we go again
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I've been running Blu Kuban by Rujelus22 since he put it out. I haven't yet found a reason to leave it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Admiral2145:
...

ota and source = ftw....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
So that makes two leaks that weren't released for builds, FE25 & FE26, is that a good sign do you think?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Admiral2145:
wicked sensation odex

try out wicked sensation v1....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Thats FE22 not FF02 lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
+1 and know the brilliant devs here haven't even begun to unleash the flavor of a customized ICS. I for one can't wait to see how in the world (shameless plug in 3..2..1) Rujelus22 makes The Blu Kuban better!

Posted via XDA BLU from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my E4GT...The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.5!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Here we go again...long as final FF06...(666) were good bring it on sfhub as we know you will if you get it

Posted via XDA BLU from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my E4GT...The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.5!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Interesting, nice catch Omar. Just a typo maybe?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Good eye. Would they revamp FE22, call it FF02, and forget to change the build number in the text of the rdf? Curious...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I love preemptive RDFs.

I hope they add LTE support.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
They just forgot to change the number. It is pretty common on these rdfs.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Can they do this with the existing hardware or will there be some sort of needed modification to be able to take advantage of LTE?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
TCR said there were 5 total builds in the end that were up for contention. Maybe this is one of the ones he was referring to? Maybe Sprint declined the build and it's back to the drawing board? I'm merely asking if these are possibilities, not speculating. I guess with GS3 being held back til the 20th, they have the time. *shrugs*
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Yes maybe, now I'm intrigued...

Also rdf before the date hmmm!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Good point. Would be nice to know either way but I'm happy to keep biding my time and see what next week brings us.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Fair enough, but why go back to FE22's rdf when they've had 25 and 26 since? That's what has me so intrigued.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Could the date thing just be because of the time difference between here and South Korea, or do they date these things from Houston? I have no idea what the time or date is in South Korea right now, so I'm really just throwing the question out there without doing any kind of research to answer my own questions, LOL!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Currently 10:57am in South Korea so that makes complete sense.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
That is a really good question and one I've often wondered myself. Could the Wimax radios be so different that they can't just be re-programmed to work on LTE's bandwidth? I'm sure with some sort of firmware upgrade it could be possible, but then again, I could be totally wrong. I haven't looked into the specs because I'm not sure I would have more than a rudimentary understanding of them. Sorry excuse for not trying, I know, but I've been a busy boy trying to self educate for IT certifications as well as my musical hobby and family, and work, and building a motorcycle, and etc, and well, we all have lives...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tommydaniel:
No, LTE requires a SIM. The SIMs in Sprint's LTE devices are embedded, that's why you don't see them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
We lose at the SIM game, again! lol I wish I could find the thread on here that someone started awhile back, or heck maybe it was a few posts in another thread, but there was some intense discussion regarding LTE and our phones.

I'll see what I can round up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Hell, that was this thread 2 days ago. It was all processors and which ones are LTE capable and which ones aren't or some jazz like that. I was confused. Still not sure how a processor dictates 4G service, but I know computer hardware, not phone hardware.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tommydaniel:
I remember threads with people really excited and were almost certain that all it required was a firmware update, but forgot the SIM requirement bit..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1547188

This is the thread I was referencing. I didn't read through it all but it might prove interesting reading if nothing else.

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So that means there's no way to retro fit our phones, correct?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tommydaniel:
Unless Sprint has some plan like that guy in the initial post is claiming, but if Sprints plan was to install LTE capabilities into those phones they would have announced it to sell more.

I say that's a red flag for that thread, also the guy who thinks the SPH-L710 is the E4GT LTE model, when really it's the GS3 and the people who still don't understand the Lightsquared deal has nothing to do with Sprints rollout of LTE...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
If a phone is supposed to work with LTE you should see FCC certification documents showing the LTE testing. Unless you see those documents, even if the hardware is capable (which is already doubtful) you aren't going to see it happen.