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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] angermeans:
Android in general is "laggy" as it does a whole lot more to run than most mobile OS'. With that said I do notice when scrolling through the homescreens that HTC Sense devices seem to be better optimized than most phones, but that is where it ends as with everything else in Sense there is a noticeable lag (I've noticed it in all skins). I have the SGSII and I notice it especially on the home screen swiping, but the OS is very fast when it comes to launching applications as it is as close to instant as you can come. I think in general Gingerbread has been a lot more optimized and all the bugs have been ironed out and you see that. Look at the Nexus S last year it was the fastest phone on the market with over 1 year old specs. Then you have to take into effect that each person is different and each person has come from a different phone and most likely different OS (this is the great part of Android as there is something for everyone). Then their is what the person has on their phone (how many apps, how much free space, what is running in the background, if they have a live wallpaper, etc, etc, etc).

The point is this thread is pointless as some will be bothered by lag and others wont based on what I have said above. I think the OP is partly correct that the Galaxy Nexus does have some "lag" as with any phone that runs a .0 or .1 version of a new OS especially considering that ICS is a huge change from GB. You cant compare ICS to GB especially on different phones as GB phones are running much less and have seen countless updates over the past 16 or so months.

I will bet my bank account though that when all is said and done the Galaxy Nexus will run better than any other phone this year running ICS and that is because it is not running a skin. It will get there and I think that expecting perfection on a new OS is being a little picky. I see this all the time when it comes to the Galaxy Nexus and maybe it is all the hype or maybe people just have expected way to much. The Galaxy Nexus is a developer device and now that it is being pushed into the main stream I guess this is to be expected, but it will get better and you should have expected this when getting the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zapek666:
4.0.2 has a slight "lag" when switching to the app drawer and flipping through the app pages. It probably misses 2 or 3 frames which indicates it's doing I/O in the main thread. If you do it again afterwards the lag is gone (the I/O is cached).

This didn't happen with 4.0.1 and it's reported to be fixed in the later versions.

Now I have both a SGS2 and a GN and the GN is definitely smoother thanks to the hardware acceleration. Almost everything runs at 60 fps. The SGS2 seems to have faster I/O though, some big apps launch faster.

The SGS2's GPU is not faster than the GN. The GN has 2.4x many pixels to move so some games that don't have resolution scaling can run faster indeed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rabhw:
Yeah, agreed. Anyone who can't see this is either in denial, or insensitive to frame drops. This happens on every GN I've ever seen, custom rom, kernel, version number, doesn't matter.

It has to do with the system struggling to animate the homescreen while also animating the "pulse" of the onscreen buttons.

Open an application and then press the home key. Note the smoothness of the home buttons "pulse" animation.

Then, while on your homescreen, just tap your home button, and note the choppiness of the home buttons "pulse". In fact, it works with any of the software keys while on the homescreen. Tap the back button while on the homescreen and see how choppy it is.

Don't even get me started on how poor the performance is when you rotate to landscape mode.

Go to this page: http://www.hookshotinc.com/interview-schafers-millions/ as an example. Scroll around and pinch to zoom while in portrait mode. Then rotate to landscape and do the same test. If you can't see this difference then you just aren't succeptible to noticing these things in the first place. This has been an issue since the Xoom and Honeycomb 3.0.

I don't think I've seen any response or explanation on Google's part for why performance drops significantly in landscape, since the same number of pixels are being rendered either way...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] monkey hung:
And when I was saying the SGS2 ans my Sensation was faster, I meant that they were all in CM7 not TW or Sense. So with CM7, it blows the GN when it comes to the frames and snappyness
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kangxi:
This has probably been mentioned numerous times before, but Android 4.0.2 is kinda laggy. I'm running stock 4.0.4, however, and it is VERY smooth. I put it on my finance's Nexus also and she has no complaints.

That being said, if you are using 4.0.2 or some slapped together rom and experiencing lag, Google has already fixed most of the lag themselves.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Re,

See my post above...

I think you're totally wrong,also running CM7+Bricked kernel by Show-p on my Sensation,even at 1.7Ghz,my Gnex is faster/smoother than my Sensation...

There is really something weird ???

No,no and no the Sensation is not absolutely faster/smoother than the Gnex,even with CM7 for the Sensation...

I have my Sensation by my side,transitions/animations and especially the launch of apps and scroll is much slower on the Sensation,I do not even speak about the browser...

It is not possible you did your Sensation more for at least one year,or you've tested it just 5min :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MonztA2:
Anyone else experiencing this lag? If you go to the setting menu and press any of the sub-settings like "Sounds", "Apps" etc. There is always a lag for me. The "touch" animation is not smooth for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rabhw:
Yup, another example.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PolyOlefin:
I'm hoping the 4.0.4 update will eliminate my slight lag as well.

Heh... forums really do annoy me sometimes. The incorrect and overuse of the word "troll" is one of my pet peeves; just because you don't perceive any lag on your phone, it must be IMPOSSIBLE for others to have it, right? I don't think they realize that THEY are the ones who are trolling a thread with legitimate questions.

I read this entire thread, and for every person who shouted "troll", there was one person who agreed with the OP. Even the Engadget review mentioned the slight, occasional lag.

Running stock 4.0.2 without LWPs, I get choppy framerates when going back to the home screen from the app drawer using ADW EX. Granted, I have all the animations set to look the nicest, but there are no issues when opening the app drawer which is curious... If it can go one way without stuttering, why is doing the reverse any different? Obviously the GPU has the horsepower to handle it.

I also quite often notice a 2-second delay when using the "recent apps" button... when is Google/Verizon gonna push 4.0.4 to the general public?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cablemike01:
In the last year I've had an atrix and a optumus 3d and they were laggy compared to this beast.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aramos87:
I have also experienced the occasional lag when using the recent apps button, as well as when scrolling through my widgets in my app tray. But like many have said 4.0.4 fixes most of that. I just hope the OTA comes soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RikNik71:
I couldn't stand the lag on stock 4.0.2. What the hell where they thinking releasing an update more laggy than 4.0.1? However, I now run modacos Lr11, 4.0.4 and everything is super smooth.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ctbear:
I think some of you are confused about choppy vs slow

To me:

Going from app drawer to home screen - choppy

Diving into different sections in Settings - slow

Dismissing notification tray - choppy

Calling multitasking/recent apps screen - slow

A lot of the choppiness can be improved by merely flashing a custom kernel (try comparing stock kernel VS latest leanKernel in above choppy scenarios). The slowness - while tolerable - not so much.

And of course check the usual suspects: LWPs, rogue apps, auto brightness, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sluflyer06:
Easy fix, if you sell your Nexus it won't be slow anymore :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
static wallpaper/no wallpaper

stock launcher2

fugumod 3.0.20 #110, cfq/interactive

aosp/master branch user built kang

underclocked to 920mhz

no lags. even gta runs smooth @1.2ghz. (it used to run smooth @920mhz too, not sure what happened, most likely kernel switch on my end. with my current setup, game plays @920, but random slowdowns in frame rate can't be ignored this time).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
The best thing to do is have the OP make a video showing his problem. Then we can go from there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xclusiv8:
All of you that claim that there is absolutely no lag are nothing but blind lying fanboys. ALL android phones have some kind of lag or stuttering. The GNex sure is smooth and all but its not perfect in any way. No phone is lag free. Not even iPhone. So please stop lying to your selfs and admit that it does happen because when a person actually brings up a problem that can be noticed on all android phones you idiots dont help in any way because you are stuck in your closed minded way of thinking. How is that way any different from the apple fanboys? If you deny that something is wrong you can never fix it!

And butter smooth is a individual thing. What i consider buttery smooth someone else might consider laggy as ****. So please grow up and open your god damn minds.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] erkv:
Im using Swype, no problems at all, except for one that looked like it didn't appear as it should, back to home and everything ok.

Im coming from Sgs and of course, I think my sgn goes really smooth, I could see the lag on the app drawer, but can't reproduce it yet,
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Re,

Some small videos,sorry taken with a Desire HD and Made quickly,I see no lag or anything (especially in "app drawer/Home/app drawer),for the OP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HesJbcFXwc4

Running AOKP build#21 ROM (comes with Nova launcher) and Morfic's kernel TNP1536-RD-MVM512 (1.53Ghz overclock CPU/512Mhz overclock GPU)

If my Sensation runed like that at 1.53Ghz...I would be very very very happy (like your comparison to Sensation/Gnex)...

And with Morfic's kernel at 1.35Ghz it's about equal...Faster with EK at 1.53Ghz.

All is about UI...And runnig at 1.19Ghz for these videos (ok with 512Mhz GPU overclock)..Not at 1.53Ghz CPU overclock,I need my phone for tomorrow :D

:)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
Didn't know swearing was necessary at this point. Shows your maturity level.

Also, as you said some people may think that a little laggy is still buttery smooth while others coming from more high end phones are probably more likely to notice the lag.

Personally after playing with my girlfriends Droid 2 for a half hour then coming to this thing it seems like there is no lag, of course there is some, but after using a laggy device, that lags at every touch, it's going to seem like a perfect device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ofaessler:
nice thread, it all boils down to everyone's opinion is bound to be subjective. My GNex feels smooth, I notice some lags (I'm stock, unrooted) from time to time but compared to ALL other phones I had this one is absolutely fast & smooth considering it is a stock and a very early release of a new android generation AND amazing resolution!

it always depends on what you guys expect from your phone. I don't like Apple, I don't like to be dictated what to do with my phone... I like to be up to date regarding software and I like AOSP. With that set of hardware and the reasonable chance of getting some very significant performance increase with future updates, I am absolutely fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
I dont think anybody is saying its perfect. But this OP makes it seem like his phone is running at 10fps from 5 years ago. My nexus certainly isnt like that. Its buttery smooth in about 95% of the UI with an ocassional hiccup here and there. But nothing to care about. All my scrolling is smooth as can be majority of cases. Easily hitting 55fps most of the time. Not sure how that can be considered as "this phone is horribly laggy omg".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
iPhones lag too.

Who cares?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patt2k:
is there anyway to put franco kernel on 4.0.4 rom? his thread title say 4.0.3 and i would like to stay with 4.0.4 since my service is better (signal) with 4.04.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
It will work with 4.0.4 it just won't work with anything lower than 4.0.3.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patt2k:
oh okay one more queston is it CWM flash-able? i never flashed kernels thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kalavere:
You flash kernels using CWM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alan7467:
I have a iPhone 4 on AT&T and have been seriously considering switching to Verizon and getting the Galaxy Nexus. My previous phones were a HTC Hero, Palm Pre and a Samsung Focus.

I just tried a GN for the first time and found it incredibly laggy. Almost every aspect of the UI skipped while in the web browser, app drawer, settings menus, and google maps. The phone in question was running 4.0.2. I've heard things improved a bit with 4.0.3 (and perhaps 4.0.4 as well), but was everything really that laggy with 4.0.2? By comparison I'd say 90% of the time my iPhone is considerably smoother. That's not what I expected based on a lot of the info here, and from the reviews and videos I watched.

These are just my observations based on pretty limited sampling of one phone. So maybe I need to check one out running 4.0.3 or higher?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kangxi:
You shouldn't base anything off a floor model phone. Yes, 4.0.2 is a bit laggy. 4.0.4 solved most of that. I specifically waited until an update came out before I bought my fiance the phone. I can deal with such nuances but I just wanted the phone to work for her. I was comfortable after the update that she would like it. And she LOVES it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
Before i bought my gsm nexus i tested 2 units in the verizon store and they were so horrible and laggy like something pre-iphone days. Its was just a disaster. But when i bought my gsm nexus it was a totally different experience. Smooth as ever and fast. I have no idea what they did to those verizon floor units.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] android01:
Let newbies install big boobie live wallpapers. Not that I have a problem with boobies. But anything stuck in memory is going to steal CPU priorities. I should mention I use a over clocked CPU. Have one home screen no Widgets and a black bitmap background among other tweaks to make this thing launch fast. Infact I even down throttle the CPU to 350mhz and it still launches just as quick. Now to get some memory efficient boobies and I'm all set. I get the impression that these phones are like cars, the good ones are tweaked to mechanical perfection . Like Subaru wrx :-)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sixstringedmatt:
Anyone use swift key x? Only lag I really get. When the keyboards open and I back or home out of the app it stays open a second longer than the app does
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hemix:
I use swiftkey X but I don't have this "issue"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] petsasj:
Can anyone confirm that Any.do animations lag?

For those of you who don't know it, it's a to-do list manager. And the fly-in animations are rather buggy, whereas on my S2 running CM9 they're smooth.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] as0k:
Mine is also a bit laggy/slow when going to/from apps and widgets. Not appdrawer though.

I wiped my phone and installed 4.0.2 yakju when it first was available. I have been running that since then. I really hope 4.0.4 will fix this...

btw: Any tips on a fast and stable 4.0.4 rom and what kernel with it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kalavere:
The only time I get any noticeable lag is paging though the app drawer in landscape. It must drop down to ~20fps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheMarvelous:
I mean there's the occasional stutter here and there but thats to be expected with any phone. I would say my phone is silky smooth 95% of the time.

And I flashed 4.0.2 yakju onto it, I can't say I've noticed any increased laggyness from when I was on 4.0.1 yakjuxw or whatever the other extension was.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xneolithicspx:
Ok so what I've read if you don't want the stutter of this OS you have to turn off all animations and all that stuff? :-\
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patt2k:
so i was wondering if anyone got fix for the keyboard lag?

after sending TEXT MSG when you quickly go back to home screen the keyboard shows for like 2 seconds.. i will post video since no one can help me and also my friends GNEX is doing same thing [VZW Nexus]

VIDEO ->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEqyfAtKsLM&feature=youtu.be
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MilkPudding:
Turn on GPU acceleration under developer option?

Increase the animation speed?

Run/wait for 4.04?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cognitivedissonance:
I haven't read this whole thread but I have seen the iPhone mentioned a few times. I'm given to understand that snappier performance by the 4 and 4S are to be expected. The more powerful GPUs combined with the different method of handling multitasking makes the iPhone noticeably snappier

I imagine we'll start seeing Android phones utilizing similarly impressive GPUs going forward. Not sure why we haven't yet tbh.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patt2k:
Wow man... forcing gpu accelration fixed -_-

and i am running 4.0.4 now its perfect!! THANK YOu
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zerocool79346:
I don't have any stutter in the actual os, a little here and there in some apps, but I doubt if any other phone handles them well or better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] InGeNeTiCs:
I read the thread and I didn't see the iPhone mentioned....but I'm assuming that the snappier performance of the iPhone 4s is because of it being a finely tuned device. Look at how many different iPhones they have to work on. One, maybe two? There's no excuse for software bugs on those, they're literally all the same. Android on the other hand, is made to work on virtually anything. Granted, the nexus line is a Google device and should run better than most, but what more do you want? How many of these features do you NEED?

Honestly, I'd love for all these companies to give it a rest and work on battery tech for a while. After all, if they keep cramming these powerful CPU/gpu combos into devices,, they're going to start coming with a/c plugs attached.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
Honestly that doesnt bother me even remotely. First, its about 0.5 sec at most. And it is more of animation fade away than any "lag" IMO. Its certainly not choppy or lag, just a fade delay of sorts. To me lag is when you scroll something and there is failure for the screen to follow your finger. I'll check my nexus one and see how it compares.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] G1-8701:
mine is just fine, no problems here, faster than any other android phone i've ever had
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
iPhone still lags. That said it would run fine with the same gpu as us (and has) because the UI is less complex and multitasking is limited.

Let's face it. MIUI runs like a champ too because it follows the same idea when it comes to launchers. The main UI is just one big app drawer. What is there to lag if you make your UI an app drawer? If you like that kind of thing, great. I don't.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] threepio:
:D Same. OP is either troll or has a goofed up phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ingenious247:
I am a proud owner of the GSM Galaxy Nexus and I can honestly say this is by far my favorite device EVER

However the people in this thread calling the OP a troll or saying that his phone is defective are obviously Nexus fan boys that either

a. Have no experience with the Galaxy S2

b. Are so damn foaming-at-the-mouth in love with their Nexus that they are literally willing to lie to themselves and others

Really reminds me of Apple fan boys.. sadly..

Here's the facts, period

1. The Galaxy S2 SMOKES the Nexus in every operational way possible.

2. The Galaxy Nexus has stutter and lag, even on 4.0.4, when using things like scrollable widgets or the app drawer or pinch to zoom, etc

I was very hesitant to give up my SG2 to my wife so that I could rock the Nexus.. I am happy to say that I love the Nexus so much that the difference in performance is not enough to make me regret my decision

Now I am stating these facts based on:

Stock 2.3.6 for the SG2, but using Launcher Pro not TW

vs

Stock 4.0.4 for the Nexus, but using Apex Launcher

All animations/transitions settings the same on both phones. The SG2 is lightning fast, easily the fastest and most reliable phone I have EVER used. It handles everything I throw at it with ease, never force closes, never stutters, scrolling is smooth as butter and FAST. The Nexus is fairly fast, with micro stuttering on scrollable widgets and pinch zooming. It doesn't handle photos as well in any gallery (stock or quickpic), and has rebooted on me once for no apparent reason.

I haven't even installed more than 10 apps on the Nexus yet, while I had over 85 (non-bloatware, 3rd party) apps installed on my GS2 without a hiccup. On my GS2 had FB, Minimal Reader Pro, Scramble with Friends, Word feud, two scrollable widgets, Wave Launcher, and WidgetLocker constantly running at all times. Just try and use Wave Launcher on the Nexus. Poor, poor stuttery performance all day long. To the point that I said F'it, I don't need Wave Launcher on my Nexus anyway I'll just use folders

My point is not to knock the Nexus, I love it.. but anyone trying to deny that there are some operational issues with ICS on the Nexus is living in dream land and sucking on Googles ****

Just be reasonable people.. the OP was just recognizing the reality of giving up a beast of a phone for the pure Android experience.. I still don't regret my decision. *buys soda from the machine with my phone*

Take that, SG2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Eddiepapi:
Yea I agree with OP I see lag here and there. My Galaxy s2 was definitely smoother.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BrianDigital:
I really dont see any lag, got about 80 apps installed, though I am not flashing roms all day just using a cm9 nightly
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] babluc:
I'm with you on this one. I'm also using cm9 and also seeing no lag.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] confusedfella:
The Gnex UI is one of the smoothest I've seen on stock android phones, But I still get an occasional stutter every now and then. Personally it doesn't bug me, but it had me thinking, why isn't the OS better optimized for the nexus' hardware? Isn't the pure google experience a selling point? They had 2 phones to update to 4.0 couldn't they do it better?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ryjabo:
Don't waste your time pointing out problems here, these guys have such a hard on for this phone that any discussion of flaws is blasphemy. Look at the last thread I posted.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bongostl:
I couldn't agree more. I switched from the t mobile galaxy s 2 to the galaxy nexus last week. I'm very happy with the galaxy nexus, but I definitely notice that it feels less smooth than the gs2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
no lag either... can the trolls please go away? if you dont like the phone, fine. go to your PHONE's section not go in another phone's section trolling.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ryjabo:
Nobody is trolling. I'm sorry that it offends you to see people making legit complaints.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
No lag here. Carry on.

let it be.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ryjabo:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1632739

This is what happens when you bring THAT up.

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