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[HTC Rezound] jmk32:
FYI, Looks like PowerAmp is the first 3rd party music app to finally incorporate Beats. I just saw the update yesterday and updated. Officially the changelog says "HTC Beats/SRS support"

On the Volume screen there now a little button for Beats. I noticed a slight, not big, improvement in the sound, but that may be because I was already using a custom equalizer setting that seemed close to how Beats sounded in the stock player. (I use my Rezound hooked up to my Bose stereo in my car - haven't tried to check out the difference with headphones yet)

But PowerAmp is SO much more robust a player than the stock player (custom settings, lockscreen controls, keep screen on option while playing, etc, etc), so I can switch back to it now that is has Beats!
[HTC Rezound] mc_365:
Thanks for the info.
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
I have a feeling that this is just a beats eq setting and has nothing to do with the beats software on the phone. I'm curious if phones without beats still have that option to turn it on. Regardless, good find and thanks for the heads up.

KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to replicate the Beats algorithm. It does little more than equalization and some games with phasing and delay, and easy enough to discover using comparative analysis of a signal pre/post beats.

Seems to do a good job, though. I can't tell the difference between PowerAmp's beats setting and the hTC Beats algorithm.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I just switched back & forth multiple times between the stock player & PA (I have used the paid version for years) using the beats setting.

The PA beats setting is really nothing like the stock player with beats enabled.
[HTC Rezound] mc_365:
Care to elaborate?

Also if a reputable Co. Sais they have a beats setting. I would imagine there would be some qualification before such a claim could be made. Is the beats logo being used by PA?
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
There is no beats logo and the setting is very hard to find.

When I enable the setting in PA, I can hear the difference but it doesn't make much of a difference at all IMHO. The beats setting in the stock app makes a MUCH bigger difference as long as your using a GB ROM.

if you are using an ICS ROM, Beats doesn't work well at all (in most ICS ROMs it doesn't work at all) so that's a different story.

---------- Post added at 06:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:12 PM ----------

By the way, I am a big fan of beats. It is certainly possible to make PA sound very similar if you play with the EQ settings enough, but beats makes it so simple and it works with all my different headsets (I have quite a collection of them)
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
Just curious what type of music you listen to.
[HTC Rezound] IrvChynaman:
Enabling Beats, SRS and the "Techno" EQ preset really made a big difference for me. Thanks for the heads up!
[HTC Rezound] txkorm:
Well there may be some legitimacy to this. I just tested it out on the Thunderbolt and.........Nothing! Not even an option for it. So, is it as good as the stock player, I guess everyone will have to decide for themselves.

I am a little surprised that the beats logo doesn't appear in top bar when it's active on the Rezound.

KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
[HTC Rezound] thelandon:
Be careful of you stream audio to a Bluetooth enabled stereo. I had streaming issues (no streaming at all) all day today. Max replied to an email I sent him asking about this, stating that enabling beats through Poweramp on an HTC device will break bluetooth streaming.
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Volume+ has had a beats eq setting for a good minute now, at least a couple of weeks
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
I will try power amp for a little while to see which I like better. Power amps UI seems a little nicer. I forgot I bought it forever ago lol. Whoops probably didn't need to buy volume+ too lol.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Are you talking about Volume Control + or a different app??

I have had VC+ for years but all I can see that doing is adjusting the volume??
[HTC Rezound] k_flan:
Playerpro already had the htc processing as an option, not sure of beats. I dont use/want either though.
[HTC Rezound] jmk32:
I tried comparing PowerAmp with the Beats setting vs the stock player with Beats on my Bose car stereo on the way home from work yesterday playing some 320 kbps songs and the stock player seemed a tad cleaner in sound (slightly less bass too), so I may not be as keen on the PA update.

But once again, I'm using a custom equalizer setting on PA I set up awhile ago that I like, while now adding the Beats setting. Perhaps using another equalizer preset with the new Beats setting will be better, but I'll keep messing around with it. The Beats setting definitely made the PA sound slightly better than without it, but not sure if it's enough to make me switch back to PA at this point...
[HTC Rezound] mc_365:
I would think you need to turn off any EQing in PA before activating the Beats enhancement? How could you tell what the beats settings sound like if you are enhancing a already modified signal?
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
LOL, I'll agreee that enabling all that certainly makes a big difference.

I just tried that & the sound was absolutely awful, but it's certainly a huge change............
[HTC Rezound] Robert235:
I'm glad i bought this app 2 years only music player i use.
[HTC Rezound] aostl:
That one is a mimic of beats or at least it says so somewhere in that app
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Where is the setting in that app??

just to be clear, are we talking about this app:

https://market.android.com/details?...GwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLmNiLnZvbHVtZVBsdXNQcm8iXQ..

or do I have the wrong one completely??
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Whoa whoa whoa. I said volume+, and the setting is in eq settings, it's called beats emulation. I doubt that any 3rd party app has a real Beats equalizer in it, it's all just for show I'm sure. That being said, I can easily tweak volume+ to sound better than the beats thing in the music app, and get a VERY full sound ... the only thing I wish it had were different profiles for different head phone. Volume+ makes all of my expensive earbuds and headphones sound off the chain lol...

A lot of people say beats is gimmicky ,but it ain't, they just ain't using it right. Both of my sets are the best sounding earbuds I've ever had, and the difference between the stock iBeats and the DiddyBeats is unreal (though they do cost almost twice as much lol). I've also had one or two other pair of 100+ dollar earbuds and the standard iBeats sound better than those. My DiddyBeats sound as good or maybe better than my 200 dollar Sennheisers (sp), for an earbud, say wuuttt

My bf was jealous because the music quality I get from my phone is miles better that what he gets from his apple products. :D
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
So is that the app I posted above, or a completely different app??

edit :NVM
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
Err... Volume+ is totally different from that app in the link. It's more like a dsp manager. I stream my music via Google so volume+ has been gud to me. I don't keep any on my phone

Edit: that app doesn't look to bad though. I thought it was a music player like poweramp, or does power amp also control settings outside of the music in the application
[HTC Rezound] brando56894:
I've had PowerAmp since it was first released and it's the only player I use. I don't really care about beats since I listen to mostly rock/hard rock/metal and don't need extra bass. I'm running Newt's Senseless ICS and the beats switch doesn't do anything, SRS is a different story. I was never too good with equalizers and stuff like that so I'm not the best judge, but SRS kind of made the bass really heavy but kind of muffled the high notes (I tested it out listening to Drive It Like You Stole It by The Glitch Mob [glitch music, kind of like dubstep] ).

Can someone clue me in as to what the Stereo X dial does?
[HTC Rezound] jmk32:
I did try that - put the equalizer on PA to 'flat' then activated the Beats function and it sounded horrible (didn't do anything to the flat sound). I think my custom EQ setting is a variation of the Rock setting if i recall correctly. Activating the Beats function on top of that definitely makes a difference albeit small (little bit cleaner/clearer, little less bassy).
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
Yea, I saw that. That's why I added nvm to the post.

I have been trying out volume +
[HTC Rezound] lbiniusc:
Anyone wanna screen shot the settings they have with poweramp? Eq settings and such.. Looking for a base.. Tia
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
I believe that stereo x is stereo separation, seems to only work with srs on.

The srs in this pa update does kind of sound like crap.

All in all, nice update. It's cool that you can turn beats on then turn bass down, up, etc. with eq settings.

The thing about beats though, is yes, it's a gimmick. However the beats enhancement as a "one size fits all" works pretty well. If, like me, you have a collection of music from multiple sources, at various bitrates, collected over years, then beats is kind of nice.

My only two complaints about the beats has always been that I couldn't turn the effect up or down and that I had to use stock player. Power Amp just fixed those complaints for me.

There you go lbiniusc. Eq is off, beats on, tone seems to be all I really need to adjust. In the end, just use your ears, you're the one listening!

Edit-PowerAmp's beats setting sounds better by itself with no tone or any other adjustment for most of my listening so far. Good enough for times when I can't fiddle with eq setting every few minutes anyways.
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
Is that still available for download? Can't find it in the Market.
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
Free

Paid

:D
[HTC Rezound] MaxMP:
To clarify, Poweramp 2.0.5 just activates the built-in HTC beats effect, it doesn't try to implement it or something. Also, SRS/Dolby is also just triggered ON/OFF, thus these HTC effects are always actually applied by the ROM/hardware (SRS is implemented in hardware and Beats seems to be purely software effect, but HTC can change it any time with any OTA).

Thanks!
[HTC Rezound] nklenchik:
This is my EQ. I use Skullcandy Ink'd headphones and they bump honestly. I'll never buy another pair of $100 headphones again.

I listen to a lot of dubstep, rap, pop and punk mostly.
[HTC Rezound] tbaker077:
I dunno I tried volume+(the version on their site) and actually like their faux Beats settings thought I feel treble is a bit stronger than what HTC's Beats setting offers.
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
I received this email from the power amp developer after asking about beats in pa app.

Hello Jeff,

it's HTC implementation of Beats. Poweramp just activates it. I.e. it's absolutely the same as in stock HTC player (though, Poweramp doesn't show beats icon in status bar).

Thanks! --Best regards, Max.

--------------------------------Poweramp F.A.Q. - http://forum.powermpapp.com/index.php?/topic/1737-faq/

I guess Max beat me to it. Didn't see that a second ago...
[HTC Rezound] aostl:
Ya beats is like the scribe technology htc has. They released development tools so that 3rd party devs can implement it in their apps. I think poweramp actually did that where as volume+ mimmicked it
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
I'd like to know if it would be possible to create a beats toggle that worked system wide. If not system wide then maybe just incorporated/hacked into pandora.

Basically, Poweramp's beats on/off button as a widget would be cool.

I'll have to wait until someone smarter than I figures out a way to do it.
[HTC Rezound] mentallo:
If you keep your eq settings on and turn on beats you get a lot of crackle in the headphones because there is way to much treble and bass. turn off ewe all together or adjust them drastically.

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[HTC Rezound] Hag77:
Just read through this thread and didn't see anything about PA w/ ICS.. I just downloaded the trial, set the eq preset to "rock"- and then went to toggle beats on/off several times.. I heard absolutely zero difference (I'm on an ics rom).. Are the peeps that are hearing a difference on GB? Also read in the volume+ dev notes that many of his presets don't work in ICS.
[HTC Rezound] ghstrdr1985:
Apple sucks!

Just goes to show that Apple products really do suck. Go figure.:rolleyes:
[HTC Rezound] platinumrims:
I tried to tell him, to be fair, he got an excellent deal on his iMac paid 800 for it brand new, the 23in, and all the latest editing software CS5 I think, for free. But took his Asus tab back and spent extra for an iPad 2 which is basically paying to downgrade. But I can't tell him anything lol... :rolleyes:

His bad!!
[HTC Rezound] WonderRaise:
Hello

It is best music player! thanks for all!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] u921333:
I seen a article in Yahoo news that looks like AT&T maybe trying to move ahead with Shared data plans :). I for one would love it!!!

Here is the screen shot that was supposedly AT&T system does anyone know how true this is?

But anyways Im hoping.

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/23142_large_tlgatteng8374a1.jpg
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
this would make sense, other idea would be to have roll-over-data, just hoping:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cdshepherd:
I had heard this rumor a while back but nothing else up until now. Thanks. I would love this too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tomtommy306:
It makes sense for the end user, but not the company. They'll lose profits if they allow shared data. I for one would love to see it happen though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] u921333:
LOL ..... well we havent seen a pricing structure yet maybe rediculously priced.

Anxiously waiting for some of those details to leak :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] djeaton:
In one sense, it does make some sense for the company. Lots of people are getting both tablets and phones. If they can share a data plan between them, it might spur sales of a tablet. I know a lot of people who would not get a second device because they don't want that second data plan. I was one of those that didn't want the second data plan. So I got a wifi-only tablet and tethering on my phone. But, from an ATT perspective, they might come out ahead if they used their fast LTE for the small screens of phones and let folks use the older Edge and 3G for their tablets at a decreased price because it spreads their data load.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tacotino:
I work for Att, and I know its going to half and half. Good cuz now you can have one set price bad cuz you need to think about what if lil Johnny uses up all my data... What do I do, oh I know get hit with overcharge... Att is about to make bank. Wait. And see.gghf
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Bender B. Rodgriguez:
I'm a member of a private site that pays people to take marketing surveys and just completed one about ATTs data proposed sharing plan. So it will most likely be coming in the near future.

Sent via smoke signal
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] u921333:
I smack lil Johnny around a little and give him my old nokia laying around first time it happens lol.

I use around 3 gig tops on 4 smartphone lines combined. So Im hoping they will go with at least a 5 gig tier so that I have a little room for oops.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
We were talking about that this morning. I can't imagine what kind of data my son would use if i let him turn on data. That 10yr old is a dloading fool
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cschmitt:
Verizon announced shared data beginning June 28th, AT&T will probably follow suit shortly.

verizon_share_everything_plan_details.pdf

Compared VZW's plans with my current AT&T plan (FT w/ 3 devices) and it's within about $5 of what I'm paying now.

+ is tethering on all devices without paying for the top tier.

- is overages are $15 / GB.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] RJEvans:
Verizon's new share everything plan is everything I was afraid of. Instead if choice they force the customers hand into buying a service they don't want. I'm on AT&T and I look forward to see what they offer, but if it is similar I won't be saving money, I'll be paying more while getting less data, more minutes than I use and more texts than I need. This is the perfect plan for the top tier users but for the average joe this is a slap in the face.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] liquidzoo:
Saw this on Verizon's shared data plans:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-data-plans-go-live-june-28/

If I'm reading that right, you pay a base of $50 for the lowest tier, plus $40 per smartphone. That seems to me to be more than I'm paying now for a total of 4GB on 2 phones plus a dumb phone ($70 base + $80 for smartphones + $30 for the dumb phone = $180 + tax). Maybe not a lot more, but more nonetheless.

If there is a similar price point for the AT&T plans, I may consider it based on whatever my average data is, but that remains to be seen. I'm guessing with Verizon's announcement that we'll see something soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
I have something similar on att, base plan at $80, with two smart phones at unlimited data and texts and 1200 minutes to share, the base plan has a dumb phone with unlimited data and texts as well

So 80+9+9+30+30, and don't forget about rolling over unsed minutes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cschmitt:
I'm certain AT&T will do something similar. That's how they have things setup for texting now, either pay $20/month for unlimited or $.20/message and get 100 messages for the same $20, nothing in between like $10 for 500 messages, etc.

The statement that VZW is making is that minutes and texts no longer matter, they are commodity features now. The cash cow is data, which is why they bumped their data overage from $10/GB to $15/GB.

I would probably switch to a shared plan, currently have 3 phones with 3GB, 3GB, and 4GB+tether and it would be nice for me to be able to use the balance of the 2 3GB plans in a month that I do a lot of tethering.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cnewsgrp:
Another reason why USA is slowly but steadily falling behind other developed countries. What ATT and VZW just did was overpaid for spectrum knowing that there is no true competition and they can charge whatever they want. Now they will have customers pay by the teeth for data.

The end game is that everyone else but the cellular provider loses. Customers pay more so they will buy less cellular equipment and use less. I for one will let go my personal cell phone and use company phone only. Fewer people will buy data enabled tablets. This impacts a whole slew of downstream app develops providers etc as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] garydv2002:
A family data share option would be great if they do it like their other plans.. offer several different size family packages like ex.

1. 2gb family

2. 3 gb family

3. 4 gb family

4. 5 gb family and so on until

5. Unlimited. And be truley unlimited family...

And if you should so choose option 1-4 let the unused balance roll over to the next month. If a company would offer this, data plans taylored to the customers needs and wants. Why have these big companies like att got away from giving their customers what they actually want and giving them what they pay for..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cschmitt:
AT&T announces Mobile Share: www.att.com/mobileshare

Surprisingly similar to VZW's offering.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bigreg:
I wonder how AT&T is going to handle discounts with the new plans. Previously only certain thing were discounted with my corp premier discount. Either way, this looks a bit more expensive for my situation.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Carlrobling:
I have 4 lines. One smart phone (unlimited data(don't really use more then 5 gigs)) and 3 dumb phones (2 of which don't have data). For the same price I'm paying now I could have data on all my lines with unlimited talk (already have unlimited txt). I'll be looking into it for sure. Just cause they offer it doesn't mean its for you or you need it or that they are "forcing" it on you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] T.J. Bender:
Here's the bit I care about:

If you've currently got a different plan, you are not required to drop it and switch upon upgrade. As in, those of us grandfathered into unlimited/throttled (unless you know how to get around the throttle) can keep our plans when upgrading. How that will look in two years when my upgrade comes due is anyone's guess, but it's worth noting that AT&T has gone to seemingly great lengths to avoid the flack that Verizon picked up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lnfound:
I think ATT drops to 30 per on the top 3 tiers. But this doesn't make sense to me at all. 30 gets you 3gb, so what's the benefit?

Edit: somewhat dumb question as I see this is basically equivalent of a family plan, at least with Verizon now that it's unlimited talk and text. Not sure if ATT has released information on how that will work with them yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cschmitt:
Effectively, there is no more unlimited data plan. With the current throttling after 5GB you'll get at most 30GB / month-- unless the phone is downloading continuously 24/7 for the entire month.

The shared data would save a little money as the current 300MB plan is too restrictive ($20 per 300MB for overages, really??), so pretty much have to go with 3GB plan, even when there are months when 1 or 2 phones on our plan only use 600 or 800 MB.

The 10GB Mobile Share plan would save me $5/month, but would also allow hotspot/tethering on all of our devices, a plus.

It's clear, AT&T's push is to get customers to use more data and pay for it by (1) moving customers to smart phones, as dumb phones are just as expensive on the plan, (2) enabling hotspot/tethering all around, because tethered devices typically can use more data, and (3) overage GB just got a 50% price increase.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Edgarhighman:
Last 2 weeks my phone isn't charging or barely with screen on.

My phone normally would charge even while playing games CK Zombies, MC3, Inotia 3, Sentinel 3, Cartoon Wars Gunner+ etc etc.

I always use my screen full brightness. But it just stopped getting charged while screen on recently. Any ideas? Battery usage screen looks normal as usual.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Andrew149:
What rom, kernal and radio are you on?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Edgarhighman:
Entropy stock rom + root. And a mid December entropy kernel. Uckh7 or something. Still running android 2.3.4 cause this rom failed to update to 2.3.6 which is OK by me

My PC is down so anything I change will have to be done on and from the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] smknutson:
Tried updating the kernel?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Edgarhighman:
No I haven't! I read entropy was splitting something about his kernel updates into 2 parts, so instead of learning how to get/use both parts, I just kept the old kernel. Any idea what I'm talking about? I'd read up on it if I found it again
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
No, I just released with two options (either/or, pick your poison) - standard (.7) and experimental (.14), with experimental on hold for now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twiggums:
Did you change chargers? (USB vs wall plug)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Edgarhighman:
I was using the stock USB into wall charger, but also started using a wall only charger I got from china/ebay. The phone is charging while I watch videos now. Phone battery dies fast using FPSE, also heats up phone