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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Not sure, I just skimmed the articles as I am keeping to my pledge to mostly avoid the topic of JellyBean in an effort to preserve my sanity.

I would say until something is on the shelf confirmed, then it's still just speculation.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MeWarning:
It usually doesn't take that long for them to get root. And ya the apps that need root get disabled. I think it says something along the lines of App Not Installed or the app is completely uninstalled, forget which. Lmao, the part about Samsung refunding for not being able to use root apps reminded me of the time on here someone bricked their phone and then demanded to know how to send the bill for it to the dev of the ROM he was trying to flash.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
thats what she said
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
Indeed it is.

Sent while hanging with that really hoopy frood Ford Prefect.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mark.J.Linskiy:
Now that is just hilarious, but sad at the same time. How far was he hoping to get with that? Lol. People can sometimes be very amusing :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I am up. Time for work. Looks like we are more confused this morning. When I went to sleep we were confused about the S3 hardware and our OTA. I am glad you guys added Jelly Bean and rooting to this to really lose me. Time for SSS. See ya!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] buggerritt:
As much as I am eager to flash FE26 when it's available, I can't find a thing wrong with FE22. I'm just running stock rooted from sfhub. I've not cared about any tweaks since I get a full day out of a charge. I happen to love the scrolling much more than GB. Using Go Launcher and scrolling wallpaper works fine. I don't think I will flash a custom ROM until source comes out. For now, this is great. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nitro_c4:
What??? We are like the best people in the world. Just dont mess with us...

:p

See? We're all good people (most of us anyways) :D

Sent from my SPH-D710 running Dazed's Wicked Sensations ROM.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
LOL I seem to remember a similar thread not too far back.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mmark27:
Do you not get the "you have lost data connection due to roaming" notification when you go into roam? [even when you have allowed roaming to occur] That's really the only bug I've seen, but I too am satisfied with FE22 until the official comes out and Calk does his magic.

I do appreciate thirdcoastraised's inside information, but I am very curious as to why he thinks we will be so excited when the official OTA gets released? Is there something going to be hidden in this official ROM that we haven't seen yet? something from the SGSIII? We know they broke root access, which is the opposite of exciting.....Or is it just general excited-ness for technology.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rgregg504:
Source, it turns the magic into sourcery.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] animal7296:
I get that notification every once in a while. But where I live I get good service everywhere except inside some buildings.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
In previous posts his source specifed that he

really

needed to check out that build, suggesting that something was indeed different -but AFAIK no specifics were provided. Hopefully the community will get ahold of it today and be able to see for ourselves.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
He doesn't know. His source told him to watch for it and enjoy it. If I remember correctly, his source said that it's a ground up rewrite of the code that really improves things. I hope his source is accurate.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graffix31:
RUJELUS has that notification disabled in his Blue Kuban rom. has for a while now. so it might be a bug but nothing that can be taken care of by our awesome devs :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
There's really nothing to be excited about except that it will be over and there will be better developments to our already amazing ROMs, some even Epic though we won't plug The Blu Kuban and its amazing developer again (doh!)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
You running a fever? Default sig? No plugs for Blu Kuban? Quick! Someone call a medic!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
The ground up rewrite wasn't what he/she told me, that's actually a well published fact that the entire Android OS was rewritten and revamped.

What was said was to REALLY REALLY check out this leak, which could translate to a number of things, but since we still don't actually have anything other than rdf, I'm more inclined to believe that we will in fact as sextape is saying have OTA on Friday or Monday...

What about source you say? Actually, I believe Sammy intends to hold it as long as possible, I mean after all the E4GT community as a whole has been less than thankful for what they've given us thus far, why give any more? That's not to say everyone has been unthankful, but its obvious if we look back through the threads, we've done more complaining than acknowledging the progresses however small or large we saw in each build by at least 3x
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
I think the individual ADD present in all of us has merged into a giant storm in the last few days of this thread. It has been a while and at this point unless this update fills our cars with gas and fridges with beer people will whine about it. I think its silly to say a global company like Samsung would hold a source release because a few people on the internet were acting like babies. If anything its related to marketing or upper management or maybe some people are just on vacation this week.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
If it counts for anything, when another major corp in Silicon Valley wanted to promote anything to production their change management procedures mandated a "cooling down" period for which activity was minimized on the source in question. The reason that I heard was to basically give it one more pass on testing before it gets promoted - and to avoid anything else getting into the mix during that phase.

If we see a leak today it might indicate that this isn't the case - but if we see it held back another day sextape's estimate earlier this week might be the safer bet (Fri/Mon for OTA). Unless something changes in the next 12 hours my money's going to be on an OTA Monday morning.

*Quick Edit* This is assumption only - I don't have any facts to back this up or I'd be happy to share them with the community.

*Edit #2* Based on the Optimus S announcment in April it would probably be announced on Monday and the push started a few days later - don't have time to really check other devices and see if a pattern emerges.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Well, I would be inclined to agree with you more if sitting here out past the boonies on fm734 "Parmer Ln" where many many chips are produced, we weren't hearing the disappointment at the lack of acknowledgement for a "global company" previously adamantly outspoken against "hackers" and root users giving those same people the groundbreaking opportunity to help test the first complete rewrite of the Android code....sentiment is seemingly the same overseas where your source sits currently
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mmark27:
Ha okay, the way you've been talking about how exciting it was, it lead me to believe that there was something far more exciting included than just "Source", which really doesn't excite me that much. Unless source will turn this into an airplane and fly me to exotic lands.

Also, I don't think that the E4GT community has been "unthankful". There will always be a few rotten apples, but overall, I think its been positive. You can't ask for people to report bugs and then take offense when they find them? or can you? I'm not sure how Korean pride works.....It has been amazing how much work there has been done on this to get it right. That certainly is a 180 degreez from their behavior around the Epic.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
1. thanks everyone for the leaked info, for the normal info, and for opinions and knowledge! keeping it gangster.

b. anyone else feel like a secret agent when flashing a leak? :D:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
I know Korea has a different business culture from my old job, but I don't know what they honestly expected. Its been fun trying out the various leaks but nobody is going to give them a gold medal and a backrub.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fatboypup:
FF02 RDF will be out before this leaks ..... :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Here's where I disagree and will stand up for Samsung for a moment. Name one other manufacturer that officially/unofficially has gone as far as they have with these leaks to get feedback on something

prior

to releasing it - I'm not aware of another. Heck, I could have only wished for such communication with the Optimus S - as well as many others - when the ZVH upgrade came out and everyone was having problems.

Having the ear - whether in an official capacity or not - of a company as big as Samsung should be given a lot of props. Not many are willing to do that and most people would have to admit that we're looking at a solid OTA in part because of it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
I agree completely. To me, it seems that we're a big part of the reason that Samsung got so serious about the eMMC bug so quickly. Between you, sfhub and others in the eMMC thread testing and looking at code, I think it helped jumpstart Sammy into getting in there and fixing it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DCRocks:
Well said! :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
+1

Special thanks to you and sfhub for all your hard work and tenacity in getting this bug pushed to the forefront.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
One thing I have learned from my time on XDA is that people get really worked up when we get close to an official update. Once it releases things go back to normal...for better or worse:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
I can't find any bugs in fe26, I think it might be the ota.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Wizard Knight:
The gamer geek in me would really like the ota to be ff07

OK thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kiekan:
Who did you hear that from? The ROM has only been out for a bit...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
Explain yourself please

.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kikoshi:
oops nvm. Didn't see that someone already answered your post.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] k-wow:
I guess I will be finding out the hard way... But thanks for the heads up! :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kchitown1977:
@qbking77: I recommend STAYING AWAY from the FB21 ICS Rom on the E4GT... Lots of issues from what I hear!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kchitown1977:
Posted on his FB also

ex Army SGT 11C
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] globalninja:
Mi familia son de villalba

Sent from my Epic™ 4G Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I updated the OP to add a disclaimer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mrnygiants:
Im on it gps works seems really good to me so far
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R0CKSTAR3N3RGY:
Sure its the software? 1/5 attempts with 1 bar FB15 will send a text.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dchibro:
The issues on FB21 are no different than what I observed with FB17. In fact, it's basically the same from what I've seen so far.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wase4711:
several people whose opinions I trust have said the same thing..

Still loving cm9!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xCovErtWolFx757:
Sorry man. Wasn't sure cuz it said zip not tar but found the tar file later. Running it now. Really smooth but kinda hot
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xCovErtWolFx757:
Sound works better
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RaydenEris:
Told ya about that fb; -)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
Lol :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Same experience here. 21 feels slightly smoother to me though so I'm happy I flashed it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Danial723:
I went to 21 for a few minutes...had some wired bugs different from 17 I'm back on the blend rom lol....not quite a daily for me yet

sent from the near past
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Calkulin:
off topic for a sec

La mia tambien, mi visa abuelo encontro el pueblo ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Oh de veras!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
You got something we do not yet? :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ricocollege:
The power that be made the decision to release so many variants of the same phone. And for a moment ignore the fact the sprint would rather you buy a new phone/ contract before a software upgrade.

As the the purchaser, I do expect a bug free OTA with out any help from me. They knew they would have to support all these different phones. My phone is still stock and I still love it as much as I did on day one.

With unemployment so high, go hire some real beta testers Samsung.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Hey, we're all on the same team here, I didn't say that's how I felt, I just merely said what the suits out here are saying, personally I agree...they asked us in a round about way to be testers and I think we did a helluva job testing. Frustration set in towards the end, but that's what happens when you see the same thing and hear the same thing day in and day out.

So, thanks to Samsung and Sprint for including us in this update. Thanks XDA developers for all your hard work to turn each leak into your own creations for us to enjoy, but my personal feeling is besides the developers, a HUGE thank you should be given to every single person in this and the various other threads on XDA who flashed ROMs in record numbers and who, in the end pulled together to help many who had never even rooted a phone much less flashed kernels and modems and such avoid bricking their devices, and who helped those who did get "soft" bricks quickly restore them.

To the entire XDA community, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO EACH OTHER, TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND TO MOVING FORWARD INTO THE NEXT GENERATION OF ANDROID DEVELOPMENT, where together with manufacturers and carriers alike WE will determine the future of Android

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Ha! Thats not only hilarious but totally unrealistic, there hasnt been one single version of Android on ANY DEVICE since day 1 that was totally bug free regardless of how many variations of each device there were. Even Google's precious nexus S and Galaxy Nexus are having to receive patch updates to remedy bugs. There were "real" beta testers on this project....fact remains WE'RE the ones that are gonna be using these devices on a daily basis.

As for Sprint wanting to sell new devices, of course they do, that's business but these devices sell themselves and update or not the new devices coming will sell. I for one am waiting on the OTA here AND STILL going to buy the GS3.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
<rant>

I'm going to try my best to write this up as short as possible while getting the point across. You are aware that Samsung is an extremely large conglomerate and that as such they probably are split into many divisions - often divided up by region, nation and then even further depending on what they may do.

So team A in one area does one development effort - a low/middle manager thinks the issues are limited to their "domain" only and so they don't see a need to communicate the problem up higher on the chain. However, the issue did apply to others and if not noticed wouldn't be addressed - after all, the other teams think everything is stable.

You can "hire" new testers but the best testers are your "boots on the ground." In my environment those are my company's operations teams - for Samsung Mobile that's the end user. And it's not just Sammy either - most companies will open their products to a wide base of their end users or customers to try and get as much feedback as possible. Why? Because if you hire them you're going to give them a test plan, which too could be fallible. Getting people to do everyday tasks is the best way to try and find as much as possible in as short of time as possible.

Real case in point: I left for lunch after adding a quick enhancement in my environment - didn't expect any issues. One parameter was missing and caused one of our main operation applications to crash, holding up operations nationally for about 30 minutes. All over one missing line of code that thankfully the guys on the "front lines" know what I need to fix it - and gave it to me. The problem was fixed in short order. Now, how much code goes into that device you're holding?

So as a fellow dev I do applaud Samsung's efforts to try and expand the test base - but more importantly listen to suggestions, criticisms and

improve the solution based on them

. You certainly are not obligated to participate in that process if you choose not to - but your choice shouldn't be imposed on everyone else either. And if you choose not to participate you should at least be willing to understand that development is a process that takes time - and most devs will tell you it's better to not try and rush that or you'll end up with a bad solution.

Most users don't care what O/S the phone has as long as it works properly - just like any other device. If you're looking for more I challenge you to look at your own expectations first and see if they fit the SMART goals before criticizing others. I don't have any numbers to support this but even if they had a team of 20 working on this for six months they probably spent close to half a mil or more (with no ROI BTW) to get this done and to us in fairly accelerated schedule.

</rant> (Again, sorry for the long post - for some reason this just rubbed me the wrong way. And it's nothing personal against ricocollege either as they're not the first to say that and won't be the last.)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
I may have reposted/paraphrased something that you originally posted, but I don't believe I *confirmed* what you said regarding whether/when Samsung fixed the EMMC lockup bug, because I don't actually have knowledge of what Samsung did or didn't do.

What I do have knowledge of is why the bug is happening (thanks in large part to Garwynn and Mr. Sumrall) and, through our own analysis, where the workaround *could* be placed and the pros/cons of each.

Also, on the EMMC lockup discussion thread, we have refrained from any additional testing awaiting the "release after FE22" which was our prior understanding (from posts made on this thread) was the one that had the EMMC lockup fix.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
You are correct and I also clarified that a few posts later. And a big +1000000 to you and the others who worked so hard to get that issue resolved quickly

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
And we're still waiting on the release AFTER fe22, even with 2 posted rdfs. BTW, hello and good to see you sfhub. I'm guessing you don't have anything new for us today? Hope you're enjoying your vacation

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
It was/is a team effort, and Garwynn, Entropy, Mr. Sumrall, robertm, yourself (and whomever else I've forgotten) all contributed.

I won't be satisfied, however, until we can *verify* it is fixed. What's that old saying... "Trust but verify" :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
does the notification light blink while charging yet?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
FE22 has the capacitive button delay still upon wake (happens quite often, required to wait ~5 seconds for response again.) Other than that, not much else to report. Battery performance is great, actual performance is great and all of the apps seem to work (words with friends occasionally FCs but I think it's the app.)

Can't wait to see what FE26 does for us and I also can't wait for what comes when source hits.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
I mean anything as an insult and I'm definitely glad we were included in some way. In the end I hope they found this mutually beneficial and it can be refined and applied to future phones.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
You mean anything as an insult? :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iamtheug:
You can roam? I haven't been able to since I obtained root back on gb. My parents running stock out of the box can, but no mater how often i update prl I can't even see another network's tower.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
I'll second that! There's a few other sayings that could apply, but with so many different ways to reach a solution I'll be happy just making sure that any one of them is in place at least in stock.

Of course I'm still holding out for the f/w update but that may be wishful thinking on my part. Once we do the verification I do want to send an update to Mr. Sumrall and thank him again for his help. Who knows? We may want to ask some more questions when the JB standards are released...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mark.J.Linskiy:
I took the time to read all of that, and I definitely agree.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wraith404:
I have been able to roam nationally and internationally (well, Canada anyway.. it's almost international :D), both since rooting GB (EL29) and since flashing rooted ICS leaks. I was in Canada with FE21, and had no issue with roaming, aside from the cost anyway.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
What's ICS? :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Its a mysterious entity that still seems to be almost mythical

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
Not so mythical for our devices...maybe others. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] datajosh:
International Cynic Society
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
What I learned out of all this is not to buy a phone that's "ready" for ICS but rather a phone pre cooked with next generation software. Future self note :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] richcracker:
nexus.

obviously
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I don't know, I have to say all these leaks, and the little bit of testing I tried on the emmc bug thing (which was like scary exhilaration lol) , have taught me an awful lot.

If I bought a phone that came updated with latest and greatest out of the box, I might grow lazy and not find all the great things I can do with my phone courtesy of the information and gizmos provided by XDA.

It's been frustrating at times, but it's been fun and there is such a list of people I owe a multitude of thanks to for all they have taught me without even knowing they were doing it.

So yeah, updated is nice but the journey to get there is where the real fun and leaning exists.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
Yeah I know what you mean. Nexus devices are nice I hear but when I played with it at the Sprint store, it was so laggy which I doubt is the real nexus. But that was my experience :/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ricocollege:
Maybe your missing my point. I will say again. They didn't have to release so many devices that they could not support them properly. Period.

Who care's how Samsung's development teams are set up? What's next? are you going to cover the the teams of children slave workers in the mines in Africa that dig up the raw minerals to make the phones too? Would you like to also thank them while your at it?

Can we get back on topic please.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
Can anyone confirm if the following unlocks data port access to programs like;

QPST, SAMSUNG PST

1) “##8778#” → Select USB “ALL”

2) Settings → Applications → Development → Check “USB debugging”

Also Confirm if this works on;

[]CM7

[]CM9

[]AOKP

[X]Gingerbread

[X]Ice Cream Sandwich
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
I'd be interested in knowing the different things you learned this phone could do. Use basic functions mostly. Calendar, phone, email, mms. I love learning new things about this phone.