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[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
Well, I already left this phone (I'll reserve judgment...) but in order for HTC to gain my attention again are taking some general cues from both Google and Samsung.

1. Better camera. My GSII (T-mobile) blows away the camera on the EVO 3D. Seems like most reviews seem to confirm this (Engadget...etc). In fact, it's already starting to replace my daily digital camera for most shots (Not talking about DSLRs fyi).

2. Faster. It needs to be faster. While my GSII variant does not house the acclaimed Exynos processor, the phone itself blazes past any ROMs (Yes even Eternity) that I've tried on the 3D. I'm being completely objective, it's simply astounding how HW acceleration works so well with Touchwiz 4.0.

3. Better unlocking process? Samsung did this right considering the rooting process literally took me less than 2 minutes to do.

4. Less is more...Need I say more? 2011 was filled with so many gimmicks and variants from HTC, it was simply...not brilliant.

5. Sense is too deeply rooted within Android. Touchwiz is at least half as intrusive as Sense is. I can actually recognize a lot of the "pure" Android experience while utilizing Touchwiz 4.0. Oh, and for the love of God, get rid of that disastrous "carousel" animation. Seems to slow down transitions compared to the page by page scrolling.

6. Better battery life. I got pretty decent amount of battery life while using the EVO 3D. It was adequate since I fall in the group that aren't hardcore users. I barely have games (I did pick up a few during the Humble Indie sale though) on my phone since I don't really game that much. Having said that, it was pretty difficult trying to find that balance of good general performance vs. good battery life on the 3D. I know about undervolting but never really bothered doing it and instead, relied upon OC daemons and underclocking via app controllers. The battery life on my GSII is fantastic, and on top of that I'm getting just crazy fast all around performance. What does this mean? It means that out of the box, the GSII is a speed demon and battery efficient.

I can see that HTC will most likely do much better than last year. When you had a rough year, you suck it up and get up again.

EDIT: I can see that this post seems like a GSII worship post, but I assure you, I'm doing a general comparison between the time I've had the EVO 3D and the GSII I have now.
[HTC EVO 3D] dr.chucky:
The galaxy s2 seems to outperform the 3d, but take into consideration what it runs. Like you said sense is deeply rooted into android. It also uses way more resources than touchwiz. If the galaxy s2 were running sense it probably wouldn't do better than 3d. Although I don't like touchwiz all that much, I agree with you, it does work faster
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Not gonna lie those concepts are pretty sweet there. But only if they came to android phones. Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] iucidium:
+1
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
A rip off just like the real iphone lol

Look at the date on that video and then look at the date on this one...

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[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
I will update to the rooted ICS on my 3D then hold off for the SGS3. I have stayed with HTC for far too long. They need to do better with the following:

Camera, Release Speed, Removable Sense, True Unlocks, Better speakers that don't blow, better antenna, better GPS (one that doesn't drift), on and on.

But they will never listen. They have proved this time and time again... so they might as well be APPLE. I am switching to Samsung in time.
[HTC EVO 3D] bman55:
Lolz agreed
[HTC EVO 3D] AndroidStyle:
better housing/design quality, more powerfull batteries (3000mah)slim
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
haha I totally had forgotten about that one there!

should patent all those ideas before Apple does. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] PatrickHuey:
honestly? not much. every HTC phone ive had has been super solid. next to moto i think they have superior build quality than any other company. i had the HTC vision(G2) and that was a gorgeous design with he brushed metal battery door and everything.

with as much power as phones have now, sense isnt really a problem, IMO. they arent just going to ditch HTC sense after years of running with it. honestly it DOES have the best widgets around. personally, i use ADW so it doesnt matter. the only other thing i would like to have would be a larger battery, but doesnt everyone need that? im just glad they dont rerelease phones over and over again. (SG2-SG2 skyrocket, droid razr-droid razr maxx) that would drive me insane. haha
[HTC EVO 3D] furfuxacheman:
changed or stay with htc

I am a regular changer of phones and have had a wide range of them from all the "top" different manufacturers and for the time being i am sticking with htc, currently have the sensation xe running a leaked ruu of ics.

I have no doubt in the future i will change to another manufacturer but they will have to have to the whole package, fast/good looking/camera etc "super-phone" but as i have never really had an issue with htc then i will probably look at them first when i am due an upgrade.
[HTC EVO 3D] DoctorComrade:
Very easy: make every phone a 'Google Experience' phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] zone23:
Bigger question is what would it take for you to stay with Sprint? I guess its any easy answer yet hard to achieve. I have no problems with HTC phones or the company.
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
That'd be a better overall question.

I got tired of waiting for Sprint to have good things.
[HTC EVO 3D] ill_man:
I'm goin gnex

Like sprint though (but only because I slaughter 5 gigs a month)

Also I have nothing against HTC, I just want a gnex

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[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Good big things are coming rest assure. Visit over at S4gru.com and read up a ton of info more in depth than I've seen anywhere else by far. The wall articles tell a ton of info.

Little did I know but the NV rollout also includes them changing the backhaul at the tower over from the current old crap they are using.
[HTC EVO 3D] ill_man:
Edit

Oh November sorry please delete

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[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
I'll admit, I was not impressed with LTE at all considering I have HSPA+ which reaches speeds as high as 25mbps in good areas (My average is around 7mbps in my small town). Seeing LTE for the long term which will probably replace not only data but voice incorporation seems to be the right move for all the carriers. I am confident that the next two years are going to be great for cell phone enthusiasts. Hopefully the top 2 stop raping the customers for money though...which likely won't happen. :/

My hope for T-Mobile would be that they watch carefully of the deployment of LTE from all the carriers and hopefully enter an agreement to use LTE in return for more capacity/spectrum as per this article HERE.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Speaking of T-Mobile...this article on that site i mentioned before goes into some detail on how/why it would be a good deal possibly for both parties.....

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...trum-would-pair-nicely-for-a-lte-partnership/
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
Haha, I just stumbled unto that while I was reading the comments section on my link. Small world.

I really hope that they do go forward with that option.
[HTC EVO 3D] ncfastls1:
HTC needs to innovate again. They did it once with the Evo 4G and from then on they've just done incremental updates and stayed with the game.

The screens aren't bad, but they aren't great either. Super AMOLED+ really wowed me, other than the inaccurate color reproduction but I've heard that can be fixed for the most part with some custom kernels.

The speakers suck too. The one on the Evo 4G was bad but I couldn't believe the one on the 3D was even worse, it's SO quiet.

They need to get a new design too. I feel like every phone they come out with is just a slightly tweaked version of the last. Wouldn't hurt to work on the tactile feedback of the power and volume buttons either. I thought the power button on my 4G was bad but I can't even feel when I'm actually pressing down on the power button on the 3D, the case I have makes it better though.

They just haven't released a phone since the 4G that really made me step back and say "wow". The Galaxy S II is a monster of a phone, in every way. Granted it could have slightly better build quality, but everything else with it is pretty much perfect. The Galaxy Nexus is one hell of a phone too but it's processor is from last year, far from leading the pack. Which is why even though Sprint has this new upgrade plan going on, I'm just going to wait until August when my contract expires. They don't have a phone that my 3D can't match or exceed in terms of performance, and if Sprints network doesn't improve I sure as hell won't stay with them. I mean network speeds are downright awful. Wimax was a flop. Horribly spotty coverage (and yes I know this is because of the frequency used) and slow speeds for the past year. It gets ridiculous when I can't stream music while I'm driving because 3G is too slow, and 4G drops connection every few miles.

I'll have to wait and see what they do with their LTE network.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
haha yeah. just found that site a few weeks ago and they so far produce some of the most indepth stuff as far as sprints network goes. Also stuff you dont see anywhere else typically and usually before anyone else...
[HTC EVO 3D] chlehqls:
Ack...Now I'm going to stay up and read the articles now on S4gru...there goes my night.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
haha might have to reserve some tomorrow too. pretty indepth there and not gonna lie i had to read some 2-3 times and the comments to fully grasp them. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] bradley26:
Pure Google phone will keep me with HTC.
[HTC EVO 3D] appslam:
my last phone was a galaxy i9000

it was great: display (amoled), performance (only with cyanogen), ways of customisation

negative: cant handle wlan with mshapv2 correctly => no internet in university.

feels like a cheap piece of crap => lightweight and plastic

i tested nearly every rom for it and it never worked like a charme.. freezes, touchpad issues, wlan probs, sdcard probs, etc.

=> with stock rom it is nearly useless, unstable and really really slow :D

htc evo 3d is 3 times better in my opinion
[HTC EVO 3D] DarkManX4lf:
Yes and keep sense optional either include it and let it be switchable and removable or let be a download option.

I don't mind Sprint, even with my slow speeds I have used more data than other carriers would allow. Plus I don't want to increase my monthly bill.
[HTC EVO 3D] Anonamoose:
For HTC to keep me personally.... 1) A super Amoled plus screen. 2)Lighter 3) better battery life . That's going to be my next phone. It's gotta be lighter a amo screen and needs to go 8-12 hours of USAGE. I run Mean Rom right now and standby time is the best I've ever seen but devs aren't magical so it's the same old same old with usage. I know I could get an extended battery but why would I want to make a BIG Heavy phone ... even BIGGER and HEAVIER. Only if my stock battery starts to die will I do this...
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
The whole Amoled screen is a far far far fetch imho to ever see on an HTC phone. Thats a Samsung product there and far as I know the Moto Razr is the only one to use that kind of screen outside of Samsung themselves....

As far as lighter and better battery life, you can't have both right now less they release some kind of greatly improved tech for displays or batteries. Which would be Mirasol displays and nano battery technology....
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
nano technology!
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
I guess you haven't seen the razr? They managed to get a 3000 mah battery in it and its still lighter than the 3D. Lets just call a spade a spade, its sense that hogs battery/memory on these phones. You can run aosp and the battery is leagues better than stock.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
yeah ive seen the razr and the razr gets okay battery life in the maxx version and the reason for that is the bigger battery and how they flushed the back more. Yeah its still thinner than the 3D but the phone came out after so thats expected to an extent. I was more talking about BIG changes in battery life in my other post really.

Something I wish HTC just did along with everyone else as I'm sure people would take the back being flush(no camera bump) and more battery life...

Also you'll see thinner phones from them with the S4 qualcomm chips since the modems are built in the die saving space there...
[HTC EVO 3D] AndroidStyle:
We all heard the news that HTC is gonna work on better quality than quantity
[HTC EVO 3D] edisepic:
ICS-HD screen-Better Camera-Quad Core-LTE
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Better battery life.

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[HTC EVO 3D] Gene_Bailey:
Lmfao. A starfish :-P
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah I mean Wtf else do people want aside from the rectangle shape?

Surely you don't want that Kyocera type device sprint spent time on having a freaking event for...what a fail that was.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Give me the option to set s-off and quality hardware and i could care less about the rest. The battery is a limitation for the entire tech industry so you can't really fault them for that.

If you want to see bad battery life get a rc helicopter. I got my nephew an ar drone for Christmas and the battery literally lasts ten minutes on that thing.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I want it to be hot pink and Oval shaped. Swag.

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[HTC EVO 3D] bmoreboy02:
Wow oval shaped hotpink....starfish....lol whats next.....what about for those of us that like ballistics...otterbox defenders and trident krackens. What if they made a rugged version? Kind of like motorola did with there military grade nextels. Just a hard thick rubber shell with maybe an optional snap on screen protector like the ones built into the ballistic hc and defender?
[HTC EVO 3D] ill_man:
I want one that transforms into a real android, that would be cool

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[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
So HTC gives us S-Off or you are moving along to say Samsung? Since Moto obv doesn't even allow unlocking at all at this point...

Or you just going to hold out hope that next solid HTC device will have the full attention of all the Dev's to be able to find some sneaky door in as usual...
[HTC EVO 3D] Keion:
Jam two fuggin tegra 3's in there, gimme summadat 4 gbs of ram, 6 inch 1080p 3d hd screen, multiboot androids, linux, otros, 32 mpx camera (3d) + qhd(quad Hd, not quarter hd) vidya recording, all the sensor, 4 sims + cdma / lte/hspa+ simultaneous connection, android 4.0/5.0 and full hw accel + 2 extra gpus (radeon maybe).

Never gon happen for any manufacturer. teh lulz
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Best laptop ever.

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[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Well, they said there was no way on hell we would get s-off or even custom ROMs on the 3D, so that's not as big a deal. But having a speaker that you could actually hear would be a huge plus.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
cool.

Think I'm going to have to add that it must have SD card slot in it. Just dont like being confined to X amount of space. Esp when you consider backups and such and with phones systems getting bigger im gonna need bigger space for backups naturally.
[HTC EVO 3D] troyboytn:
the specs of the endeavour (HTC one x) include no sd card slot! I don't think so. that killed it for me! add me to that must have sd slot as well..... next thing you know, HTC will implement a non-changeable battery
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
I agree. I've been saving my upgrade and I thought I would be using it on the oneX, but if there is no sd card slot its a no go. I hope htc isn't stupid enough to take out a big feature that sets android apart from crapple's iphone.

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] swaze:
After seeing some of the rumored phones that will be shown off at MWC, I hope HTC is taking notes. I'm not worried about the ONEx not having a SD card because I believe the sprint version will have that option as well as full USB mass mode support in ICS.

But also after seeing the specs for the MOTO Axtrix 3, I am hoping for 2 GB RAM and a 3300 Mah Battery to compete with. Throw in the Tegra 3 or S4 and ICS and that will definately be my next phone. I have 2 upgrades coming up and I can't bother to use them unless they come with it BIG TIME!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] gilbydakid:
Xloud engine? I'm satisfied with htc. I actually left htc when i had the wing and swore I'd never come back. And here i am.

s3nt from my 3D wond3rland
[HTC EVO 3D] Gene_Bailey:
Actually, here's the thing for me, most of my backups, whether nandroids or titanium backups, are all saved to some form of cloud service (box.net or dropbox.com or hopefully the new Google drive cause that would be so damn convenient).

The lack of an SD Card slot doesn't really bother me at all. If it comes with 32 gigs of storage, and I can access 27 of it, I'm pretty content. I keep am average of 6 to seven gigs of media between music movies and videos and maybe 3 gigs worth of nandroids depending on if their aosp or not, but lately I've been backing up all my nandroids to the cloud and then deleting them off my device. Even if I kept them, I'm more than content with 17+ gigs of space left over. My apps barely take up a full 2 gigs(and that's with a little over a hundred installed at any point in time) so if, all said and done, I still have say ~15gbs of space left in my device, with the option to have instant access to large cloud storage bins, then I'm a very happy camper! I maybe one of the minority here, but there's very little on my phone that isn't already in the cloud so I don't even have to worry about transferring my existing stuff to a new SD card-less device. And I like the idea of having faster and more reliable NAND memory. I understand that its an option and nice to be seen included, I just know that it won't ever affect me either lol
[HTC EVO 3D] dca1970:
+1

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[HTC EVO 3D] compsciasaur:
My next phone is a Nexus. I can't believe I don't have ICS by now. I knew HTC would take their time, but I was hoping the hacking community would churn out a EVO 3D ICS ROM where the cameras would work. No matter what you do, if you get an HTC device you have to compromise somewhere. The only drawback of Nexus is no SD card slot. Gingerbread was kinda ugly, but ICS is gorgeous, and I don't want sense. The only way for me to get an HTC phone that isn't a Nexus is if Sense can be removed with no more than two clicks and no rooting.

I also need good battery life, so that means a Droid Razr Maxx style battery or a SAMOLED+ screen or both.

My next device is stock Android, LTE, on a decent carrier (i.e. Sprint/Verizon at the moment), 16+GB memory, big battery, nice screen, HD screen, and ideally 4.3" screen. HTC can make this device. If they throw stock Android and SAMOLED on the Rezound, I'll buy it.
[HTC EVO 3D] strykerider:
camera is not so good (5MP Only for 2D), the HTC Sense sometimes crash and ate a lot of memory usage, the battery life is poor.. i just hope HTC make an improvement for some point that i mentioned.. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] bmoreboy02:
And while were on the htc vs samsung topic lol....let me just say my daughter just got the htc flyer and its an amazing tablet. People slam that tablet all the time saying how bad it is. I have a galaxy 10.1 and my son has the original galaxy 7. Of course the galaxy 10.1 out performs it but the flyer blows that 7inch galaxy tab out of the water. The carousel is smooth it streams netflix smooth and over all is just alot faster. All my tablets are stock. Just figured id throw that out there that if you do like your evo and want a 7inch tablet go to the store and play around with the htc flyer before buying a samsung one you mite be surprised in how much you like it
[HTC EVO 3D] thetunicakid:
Xhausx you could prolly answer this. We all know rumours about a version of htc one x will come later. While ive heard some cry about no quad core tegra I wasnt mad from reviews of read about snapdragon duel core. From rumour again sammy s3 will have 2gb ram as did a moto concept possible to come. The one x only has 1gb....not much of an upgrade here? How much is that extra gb worth given if two devices had exact setups? I have gut feeling sammy is gonna give this device alot pressure....htc nexus would def make me happy camper
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
In terms of upgrade.....its a solid upgrade overall big picture...

*4.7in 720p screen w/ gorilla glass

*S4 Qualcomm chip....28nm, Adreno 225 g225, baseband built into the die of the chip(big space/power saving and performance here)...(The S4 alone is a big upgrade to theEVO3D which is a 40nm Adreno 220 chip and doesn't have the advantage of modems built into the die the S4's do.)

*Dedicated ImageChip allows auto focus is 0.2sec, shutter time of 0.7sec,

*f2.0 aperture(which offers 44% more light than the ones used in our phones)

*Dual Shutter Camera Module->allows you to record video and take pics at same time

*Dual Shutter Camera Module->allows you to record video and take pics at same time

*polycarbonate shell...(though i am not a fan of no SD card and no removable battery)

*Oh and Sense 4.0...

so overall if you step back and look at it, its a solid upgrade there. Has its drawbacks for sure if you like SD storage and removable battery.....BUT if you upgraded form the Evo4G to the EVO3D then the OneX is even more of an upgrade spec wise from the 3D at least...

In terms of the SGS3...till we see their actual press event showing the real specs off we can only speculate on what it will really have...though the specs bgr.com and others posted up seemed pretty crazy. HTC coulda straight kicked butt if they just added removable battery, SD card, and stretched the screen to the edge's like the sgs3 pic...
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
If you dont care about the camera then half of that is irrelevant lol. You add a good camera but dont improve upon the thing that needs it the most, the battery.
[HTC EVO 3D] NamenIos:
I'm relativly happy.

- faster updates

- AOSP option

- interchangable battery

- µsd slot

Would do the trick for me. Thinner and lighter is nice as long as they dont sacrifice the above. Runtime is more important than speed. Camera could be nicer, but the focus shouldnt rely on that. Otherwise just the usual updates to be somewhat up to date.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
im actually interested to see the gains of having the battery integrated as opposed to removable...ive herd/read of the possibilities of the gains but still wanting to see some #'s shown by htc or reviewers of the One series to see what they claim/get battery life wise...On top of the slimmed down Sense4.0 effect on battery...

id agree if you dont care about camera then half is not relavent but in that case it wouldn't be relavent to upgrade to the evo3D from the evo4G in the same regards. I dunno I just dont get the people that viewed the evo3D as an upgrade from the evo4g but then in this case dont view the OneX as an upgrade from the evo3D.

both involve much better screens, cpu, sense, android os, camera(3d feature on the evo3D, vs overall better one on the OneX),...only gripe i have is no SD and removable battery really. but the later is not as important as SD to me.

I'm still shocked they continue to choose to implement the camera bump in their phones...make it a few mm thicker and flush please! whats the point of making the phone X thin at the base if it has a giant camera bump? make it flush with a giant battery and crush the Razr battery performance....
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Lol sucky part of those batteries is if they go to **** you can't swap it out. I would hope they don't go the iPhone route on batteries :) You can't go extended .

How would you get out of a bootloop lol if you were messing with a rom and testing .

A 8mp camera would be nice just one :)

Sent from my reaping 3D ;)