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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
No, it should work while connecting to 3G as well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
They should save the quadcore for the November/December Nexus. That should give enough time for Sprint users to blow their upgrades on the sgs2.00001and sell them at retail price to those users. We all know sprint pays a heck of alot less.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gmangut:
It works with 3g I can confirm.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crzchn:
This thread is making me sea sick...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Because the roller coaster of emotions and the butterflies in your stomach?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
It will NOT be quad core on the 16gb variety for ANY U.S. CARRIER. So far only TMO AND SPRINT have placed contract orders for 32gb varieties and YES IT IS POSSIBLE emphasis on POSSIBLE that those will have SOME QUAD CORE processor. All the crap about quads not supporting LTE was fixed months ago. Exynos quads are already supporting U.S. LTE in test phones everywhere. As for the new nexus variety coming out, if we take the current versions as basis for what the new ones will be like, phones will be running quad processors and the wonderful "Google Experience" will revert to Edge technology seeing as none of the current nexus phones have processors, cameras or memory capacity of sgs2, photon or even OG EVO for that matter

As for voice and data, right now I'm on my E4GT connected 3G posting this AND talking to my sister on the phone through the headset, so these devices are already voice & data capable but not SVDO certified

Posted via XDA BLU from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my E4GT...The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.5!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
woah wtf? how do i use 3G AND voice talk together on THIS EPIC 4G TOUCH. this is bloody news to me...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] datajosh:
Has your area already started the Network Vision upgrades?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthejoker20:
PEOPLE.....

You can get these phones with 8 cores and LTE, but it won't matter.

With no LTE network, you will get slow data.

I am on my 4th 4G phone, STILL with never having 4G access.

UPGRADING IS JUST NOT WORTH IT RIGHT NOW.

Sprint burned their data network, by turning everything down to save money, to buy the IPHONE sales rights. Now we are screwed for a long time while they recover.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
SVDO requires a 2nd radio antenna that the E4GT doesn't have.

I would be quite impressed if you were able to watch streaming video and talk to your sister at the same time using E4GT with wifi and wimax disabled.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
How that is possible 3G+Voice?

I can't do that on my E4GT as soon as I place a call 3G disappear :confused:

Sure you are on wifi or wimax. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bumsock:
So a dual core s4 16gb...and maybe a magical 32gb quadcore verson? :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
You ruined my hopes, just this one time. :/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Not yet, they said LTE was priority then Network Vision would start soon after

Sent from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my Epic 4G Touch... The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.5!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Not sure why I said 3G was connected, yes, I was connected to wifi. Me and my sister just happened to be troubleshooting her phone which btw is a gs3 (benefit of military living in London) and she says its far from a gs2, I'll get to play with it next week while on my vacation.

Sent from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my Epic 4G Touch... The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.5!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tommydaniel:
LTE IS part of the Network Vision though..

---------- Post added at 11:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:48 PM ----------

Not worth it....for you. I have a Wimax device and get Wimax service. I also live in one of the cities that are getting LTE first sooo....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pdaddy:
So I'm guessing we can expect pricing somewhere around, 16 gb $199 w/contract, 32 gb $299 w/contract?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1683132 :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
Maybe sfhub might know the answer. At https://network.sprint.com does it look like that will show when lte is rolled out to towers in your area? The reason I'm asking is it would be a complete waste of time and money to get a lte phone when your area isn't even live yet. Maybe any sprint employee could shed some light on how we could monitor our area so we know the time of the switch being flipped is coming soon or not? Personally, I live in an area that is second in line to get the rollout. I forgot where I read the list, but I remember seeing if all went as planned, it should be between summer and winter of this year for my area IF there aren't any problems with the first group.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Samsung should update the Twiz UI to the latest. Maybe there's a surprise! I know, I know, wishful thinking lol :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Like the GS3 lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] EggosEvo:
If not the full touchwiz, then at least the additional toggles in the notification bar like the SIII has. That would be great.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Yeah that's what I meant. Not exactly like SGSIII but some features and some style ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
I'm talking about 3G and voice not 4g
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
Maybe that's why these latest builds have been kept so secret..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. :rolleyes: who knows. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sahn-J:
Its an Exynos... I dont unserstand the confusion...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
I thought only gsm could do that as their networks are configured differently. I totally don't get the blackberry response.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Waiting for a leak.... :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
CDMA can do it too. It requires hardware to support it, which is now available. There are some devices on Verizon that can do it and Sprint is going to standardize it in their devices
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gmangut:
Don't know if it has been posted but... for those wondering how ur device stacks up against other current sprint devices....http://db.tt/YjXLGWAn
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
Really? Never would have guessed. Thanks for informing us.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
No problem, just wanted to inform you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Thank your sister for her service for me. Now I understand her location providing her an opportunity to obtain the GS3, but government entities use Blackberrys for smartphone because of the encryption they afford.

Come to think of it, between home and work, I was never off of wifi, so that was probably the case any time I was able to achieve that. Sorry for the misinformation. It was entirely unintentional.

On another note, despite the lack of practice, last nights show was awesome, but no video was taken that I am aware of. So no sharing. Sorry. :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Well, shucks..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dcowboys2184:
You and like 20 ppl said the same exact thing about sprint.. They doing bad..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rangermateo:
I think he meant his sister had early access to one, not that the military issued her one. You have to be pretty high up to get an issued cell phone (Generally squadron DO or higher...) and even at the they only use smartphones (ie blackberry) if it's going to talk to the exchange server. For other functions that just need voice they just have ancient stuff like old Nokias.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
Hardware on the network side not the handset. Otherwise iphone would work on big red the same way

It does on at&t
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Censura_Umbra:
The reason AT&T can use data and voice at the same time is because they use two frequencies. They use CDMA for data and GSM for voice. Sprint uses CDMA for both. So that is why.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
Pretty sure this is false
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
You are correct. It is because GSM already supports it, while normal CDMA does not. The new flavor of CDMA that is supported by the radios in the new phones is capable of simultaneous voice and data as long as the protocal is in use by the carrier, which it will be for Sprint.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] madocs:
Verizon and Sprint use CDMA, ATT and TMO are GSM/HSPA. I'm sure we'll get a detailed response to this by someone nerdier than I, but the talk and surf ability is associated with data handling/separation that ATT does. They don't use CDMA. There is "room" in their spectrum to thread separately.

Before WIMAX, our connection was usable for one purpose (talk or use data/surf). When the EVO came out, we could do both when on 4G. Calls were handled via 2G or 3G, data separately on Wimax.

Unless you are VOIPing, wimax is just like wifi - it isn't used for calls.

...Best I can do with this one...detailed info is all over the web (and XDA) if you want the full skinny.

- sent from a thingy
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sahn-J:
We actually use a cdma/evdo hybrid for voice if Im not mistaken. I dont think that changes much but you can disable cdma voice... Would that effect it?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] starnostar:
Well...does anyone think were still gonna be the first american gs2 to get ics? Or will the emmc bug make tmobile beat us to the punch in terms of release date?

I really hope this gets pushed out before the 11th
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Some are speculating a Monday roll out. I'm more inclined to think some time between Wednesday and Friday.

If I remember correctly, those more knowledgeable on the subject than me have said that the emmc bug has been fairly resolved with workarounds or effects few enough users that it isn't an issue for those just taking the OTA. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I could have misunderstood the dialogues with sfhub and TCR.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Any new updates on FF02? Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
Is there a way to check if any build is uploaded to Google's ota server? If someone knows please post here or PM me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Please remember the entire situation and the article concerning the emmc bug. We were not the only ones affected so the fact that Tmo has put out a date is simply in my eyes an attempt to "1up" Sprint again.

Sent from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my Epic 4G Touch... The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.6!!! Sprint quit screwing around and let's "Sprint" forward!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] starnostar:
Hopefully this little competition will bring us the ota faster, considering its all in sprints hands now
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
(Back on track) So any leaked information regarding this "final" leak? :o
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dante32278:
What happened to sfhub? Anyone?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Febby:
He is on vacation. That was what I last heard... or maybe all the experts are at a Samsung council meeting lmao ;P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dante32278:
What!?!? A dev took a vaca??? UNACCEPTABLE!!

I kid I kid. Good for him.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
This has gotten way off track... my attempt to get us back on track and I asked this earlier but it seemed to go ignored.

Does anyone know the link to the google server to check if the OTA has been uploaded? If anyone knows, please post here or send me a PM.

I can check the Samsung Source site, but that's no good until Wed at the latest. I would hope the FF02 rdf means that's the final build which was sent for OTA, although not sure if that's the build they were testing either. Any insight thirdcoast?

I will also take it as a good sign there have been no "leaks" and the longer we go without a "leak" I would hope it means we are closer to a OTA/Source release.

I hope this gets us back on track...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
I would hope to not have a final build /ota until it works at least 90%. You will just need to keep it in your pants. I'm sure the devs would rather have source to a more finished product.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I just came on here to see what been going on today after working my butt off. The first thing I saw was 6 pages of unread stuff. Surely with this much activity we got the leak. What a let down to see it was all about rotary engines! Everyone knows real men like twin can v twins.

Anyways, anyone have an answer for winfan? Better yet, anyone we can bribe for more intel or a leak?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Im very concern about the mistake on rdf file its for FF02 but software no is FE22. What could happen to final build if they made a mistake in something as simple as a rdf? :(

Hope you get what I'm meant!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
I agree with it working 90% at a minimum. I think they made a lot of fixes after FE22 and tied up loose ends. Samsung is no longer fixing anything, they have moved on the Galaxy S3. Samsung is telling Sprint, here are 5 builds, pick one and make that your OTA, we aren't putting anymore man hours on new builds. With all the chatter 2 days before they reassigned everyone at Samsung, it would lead me to believe they ironed out all those small details and polished it up. This would also mean why we haven't seen a FE26 "leak" since this was 1 of the 5 potential OTA builds. Sprint can test all day long but they will only test those 5 final builds.

What else do you feel is left to be fixed? EMMC bug is apparently "resolved" and very few minor bugs were present in FE22 (based on post 3 from sfhub's FE22 post). I'm not trying to be rude, just using deductive reasoning (based on the information we have been provided on XDA) to come to my conclusions.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kali323:
Rdf have never been accurate. They always listed the gb as 2.3.3 even though the phone launch with 2.3.4 and is now at 2.3.6. The first ics rdf listed 4.0.3 and the 2nd 4.0.4 then the 3rd as 4.0.3 again. The reason why we are not seing anymore leaks cuz calk stated the samsung/sprint caught on to the leaks. Leaks are nice but not if it causes someones job. We been spoiled too much up to this point
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
I get what you are saying there Omar, but I think someone commented before saying it might have just been a copy of the FE22 build and they forgot to make that change. But again not sure how the RDF's are created in the first place, so that would concern me too. There is always a chance it's human error.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
It's not cause they caught on. It's cause they're on the final stage and distribution of builds is not as necessary at this point. I believe it's being tested by a really close net of people.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kali323:
I was thinking the same that they don't want the final builds to leak. There is no way they barely finding out after 30+ leaks. They would caught on after the first few leaks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
Just thinking about it logically, i agree there. Another thought was and tell me if this could be true, "leaks" were provided by Samsung to get the code right and now that it's in Sprint's hands, we are not seeing them? Sprint never leaked anything really.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
He has remote access to his dev box though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
According to TCR's source, the leaks were intentional and we were used as beta testers. No leaks means our job is done or those that the builds were being leaked to no longer deem us worthy of widespread distribution. Not trying to drudge up the past, but the claim was made, so suspicion will forever be there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jayharper08:
OK. Just deleted like 40 something posts (should have been more). I didn't create a nice cozy lounge STICKIED for all the off-topic bs to come in other threads. Yea, one or two posts is fine, but to have over 40 posts of something that off topic is a little overboard. Here are some links if you need to know where to go.

Off-Topic Lounge

GS3 Lounge

And last but not least: Rotarycarclub.com

Please try to stay atleast somewhat on topic?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Nice off topic convo, furthermore I still want to see how much improvement did Sprint did with the FF02, hopefully bugs like the missing clear bottom part when multitasking more that 3 background apps is gone :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Also I want to see some lift up to TouchWiz UI, it really need it. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I know it's been said that Samsung supposedly built 5 different final builds and told sprint to choose one. I just don't see that being the case. At least not in respect to these rdfs. Each RDF IMO is an evolution from the previous. The truth is and the reason we aren't seeing these final ones is Samsung didn't want it leaked and went CIA top secret on the final versions. If we can get our hands on them I am expecting the final product. I am not saying Samsung didn't make 5 different finals. I just don't think they made Rdfs for them.

Also, sprint test their ota's. And last I checked the testing team isn't testing it. That could change as soon as tomorrow. The point is, we should see it before it gets pushed.

In the mean time we might use our free time checking the RDF page for the S3. After doing some investigating the Epic Touch had rdfs prior to it's release so we stand a good chance to learn some specs.(and I just checked, no dice.....yet)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
I don't think they would make rdf's until they sent that build to sprint. I would think sprint wants a smooth release and make their customers happy but its gotta be good for business. Also sprint forums are blowing up with people claiming sprint has the ota and is holding back on release. Di you know if they tested fe26 last week?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Awwwww!!! You totally erased my not so witty retort to madocs that was on topic! Pointless and useless, but on topic, LOL! Its ok. I forgive you, LOL!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I asked. They don't know. All I know is that one person hasn't tested it and doesn't know is someone else has or is currently.

I really try to be cautious on what I say here or how I put it. Let me check something and I will get back with you guys.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Didn't you understand? No out of thread posts...

Anyway, so from what I understand there are 5 different RDFs to be tested?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
There are 5 potential builds to be tested. Don't think that translates into 5 rdf's. Rdf is only created when samsung sends to sprint. Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I'm speculative on what I've seen thus far.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
I don't think that's what TCR said, and if I started that with my paraphrase of events, I apologize. What I believe TCR said, and I hope he corrects me if I'm wrong, Samsung had 5 builds that were possible contenders for OTA. 2 or 3 were scratched off the list quiet early leaving the other 2 or 3. FE26 was one of those builds and, I'm assuming FF02 was the other.

My speculation:

If there were 2 scratched early and they were FE21 and FE22, then there could still be a possible 3rd out there. Maybe the fabled FE28/29? I dunno.

None of the information given to us could be accurate information as far as we can confirm so far, but none of it is out of the realm of plausible either. Id like to think that TCR is genuine and is just passing on what a source is giving him rather than he's just a big jerk pulling the wool over our eyes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I agree. I just think he is giving out to us third hand which is good. I doubt the president of development is going to give us a shout out.

I appreciate his insight. You just got to understand he is relating information that was passed on to him. This in a world of constant change has to be constantly reinterpreted.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] starnostar:
This dosen't inspire too much confidence...

of course they might just be covering their bases here...just in case, but when I read that I see "dont expect an OTA anytime soon..."
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
That just made me sad :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Say what? My heart just broke in pieces :banghead:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] linuxtad:
No wonder people cannot find anything, this thread has been hijacked, derailed, and made into a lifetime drama movie. Please go to another thread and leave this one alone.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
The guy in the support forum does not know when the ota will come. Don't pay him any mind, the ota is coming soon, promise :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 30footfall:
now on ff02 but where the link?

If we really are on FF02, why cant "we" get it? As far as I'm concerned were on FE22.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] buggerritt:
The thread is referring to rdf releases.

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Rinzler:
Sfhub whats gooodddd? lol

Whens that odin tar gonna drop homie? :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lancer1991:
Correct me if I'm wrong, as of FE26, the hole open to create the root access was closed and I believe all the developers are trying to find a workaround.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
That would explain no leaks since without root they are not worth it yet?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rgregg504:
I don't think they have it at all or we probably would have seen a stock ROM even without root, they don't usually hold back on the community
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Unless you have info we don't, it hasn't been leaked.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Admiral2145:
I thought it was because of all the babies crying.. They stopped compiling it to the masses.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
There was the threat of that from some, but from the last post sfhub made in here, he hasn't gotten a leak yet. If he has no leak, he can't work his magic. Besides, he's on vacation ...or out being an international super spy ...if he gets it to us, he gets it to us. I want him to enjoy his vacation, not spend it working.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Clarification:

Fe22 was one of then 6 potential finals, of which only 1 truly is. Fe25-26 then brought us down to 3 remaining. Now you see there is an ff02 which would mean a possibility of 2 more. No one said Samsung stuck them out there and told Sprint to choose one...that would assume Sprint had some sort of knowledge or logic as to what makes phones work. Judging from whats being said ib Sprints forums, they barely know how to provide service.

They have the OTA, and there is no further testing being done. Fact is they don't care about how we the consumer feel, they dont care if Tmo beats them to the release. They intend to "show us who's running the show". That said, after all the ruckus caused last week, I will no longer share the info that is given to me publicly. I'll make it known if I have new info, and if interested you can contact me via email or pm. Source will come when it comes and Ota when Sprint quits playing the corporate greed and authority game...end of story

Sent from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my Epic 4G Touch... The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.6!!! Sprint quit screwing around and let's "Sprint" forward!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lancer1991:
Nope, no info. I just thought that is what I read in one of the posts. Maybe I read it wrong, but swore some said the root was plugged, so that lead me to believe it was out, just couldn't access root and that is why it wasn't issued by any developers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
thirdcoastraised thanks for the update and clearing up some stuff.

Lately I have seen tons of siri commercial with celebs so my wild speculation for the week is that we aren't getting the leak because it will feature svoice
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't sure how much of that I got right.