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[HTC Sensation] -=JohnDoe=-:
now

first, put the PG58IMG.zip(to install CWM recovery) in your SDCARD ROOT folder.

then if you have finished downloading the rom, put the rom in your sdcard (everywhere, no need to put roms in your sdcard root folder. you can have a folder for roms, i use "!!ROM" as the folder's name to make sure this folder is always the first folder i can see, and then "!MOD". lol) then reboot to hboot.

if you haven't finished downloading, just reboot to hboot and then press VOL+ to install cwm recovery.

then, when you finished updating, you should press POWER to reboot, then delete the PG58IMG.zip in your sdcard root folder.

then, you should put/have put the rom in your sdcard now.

then, turn your phone off, and get into hboot, choose "recovery", press POWER button, choose "install zip from sdcard", POWER button, choose "choose zip from sdcard", POWER button, then find your rom, POWER button, there you go, bro.

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it seems that arhd 3.6.13(android2.3.4 & htc sense 3.0) & 4.1.13(android 2.3.5 & htc sense3.5) would work fine to you.

i think sense3.5 is more beautiful...
[HTC Sensation] The-Last-Hylian:
Oh right, is 4.1.13 stable?

Visually whats the difference? I wouldn't need to alter any firmware etc, I could just flash it on the same as 3.6.13?

Also, I have the recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-pyramid WinZip file downloaded, can I put that onto my SD Card as it is or do I need to extract anything from it first?
[HTC Sensation] -=JohnDoe=-:
i think andorid2.3.5 roms are stable enough now.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17932066&postcount=2

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=16819368&postcount=2

these are 2 kind sense3.5 navbar. icons and others are just like sense3.0.

i forgot which kind arhd 4.x.x is...

and yeah, no need to flash any firmware etc, just full wipe and flash, then enjoy.
[HTC Sensation] The-Last-Hylian:
Ok, so it'll look like one of those then?

That's good to know, I might use this then.

It's still OC'd to 1.5Ghz and has Beats Audio so that's a plus...

Once it's flashed on how do I activate Beats?
[HTC Sensation] -=JohnDoe=-:
i don't know what it contains...

if there are "android-info.txt" and "recovery.img" inside it, rename the zip file to PG58IMG.zip and you know what to do.

if not, then it must have "recovery.img" in it, then extract "recovery.img" and put in the PG58IMG.zip you downloaded maybe 1hour ago(sorry for my poor english. i cannot explain it clearly..:p).

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sorry, i don't know it because i don't have beats headphones.;)
[HTC Sensation] The-Last-Hylian:
Just one quick question to make sure that everything is in the correct place.

When I plug my phone into the pc and choose disk drive.

My phone is showing up as the J: drive.

Would I place these files in the J: drive?

Or would I place them on the actual SD card, DCIM?

And the PG file for CWM is a winzip file?
[HTC Sensation] fredcorp6:
Just drag on to the drive... DCIM is just a folder where your pictures are stored. The drive that shows up is the whole sd card.
[HTC Sensation] The-Last-Hylian:
I have the ROM in a !!ROM folder on my SD card.

I've also copied the recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-pyramid.zip file into my SD card.

I thought it was called recovery v5.0.0.8?

I'm downloading recovery-clockwork-4.0.1.5-pyramid.img from here

http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/

Is this what I want to be using? Can I just place that file in my SD card root as it is or do I need to unzip it etc?
[HTC Sensation] AymaR13:
The j: drive you see there is actually your sd card.

and yes, it has to be a zip file. Copy it as it is .
[HTC Sensation] The-Last-Hylian:
Is recovery-clockwork-4.0.1.5-pyramid.img the right file?

I then, take out my battery, turn on the phone into HBOOT and then choose, update? Then restart the phone in HBOOT and choose recovery, then I can flash the ROM on from there.
[HTC Sensation] Jikstah:
Wow, it took you two hours to actually root and have a custom ROM running on your phone. -.- lol just sayin'!
[HTC Sensation] The-Last-Hylian:
Nope, I'm still working on it ;p

I just want to make sure 100% that what I am doing is correct. I do not want to mess it up!

I've got the recovery-clockwork-4.0.1.5-pyramid zip in my root folder.

When I hold down VOL- and go into HBOOT, I'm getting nothing about installing updates etc... there is a recovery option there though.

I can see it states that the phone is S-OFF

Then there are options for

Fastboot

Recovery

Factory Reset

Simlock

Image CRC

---Edit---

I chose Recovery and my phone rebooted and now there is a black screen with a picture of a phone with a red triangle in it with a '!'

I restarted my phone, it's fine.

But what's going on?! I have the files in root, there was nothing about an update, when I put the file recovery-clockwork-4.0.1.5-pyramid zip in my root folder.

---EDIT x2---

I've renamed the file to PG58IMG.zip to see if that works.
[HTC Sensation] The-Last-Hylian:
I managed to do CWM, then I've HBOOT'd chose recovery, chose file from zip, I've chosen the ROM.

Now it's doing it's thing I guess...

It says.

New Rom flashed successfully!

Reboot your device :D
[HTC Sensation] donwhann:
id have bricked my phone by now, cant see me ever rooting...:D
[HTC Sensation] The-Last-Hylian:
If there was sarcasm there then I missed it haha :p
[HTC Sensation] donwhann:
heh heh, no sarcasm at all bud. at least you have the nerve to have a go, i look at all the guides and think fek that !!. when i got my hd2 2 years ago i modded the crap out of it, and nearly lost my other half in the process :-), so now im just happy on stock and go launcher. hope you get your phone running just how you want it !!!
[HTC Sensation] The-Last-Hylian:
It's running ok atm thanks :)

I'm pretty pleased with it!

I'll look into flashing ARHD ICS onto it at some point... or CM9, whichever is more stable and I like the look of I guess.
[HTC Sensation] grega_slo:
Imagine EVERYONE would open new threads and fail to read guides (3-4) which helped me and N others... It would be total mess.

Now here`s sarcasm :)
[HTC Sensation] donwhann:
your post reminds me of the guides i've briefly looked over........utter nonsense !! :D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Qvoth:
so i bought my sgs2 maybe about 5-6 months ago from hongkong

i've updated using kies, but it's at 2.3.5?

i thought the latest should be 2.3.6?

obviously i'm still very new at this, so hopefully you guys could be a little more patient :o
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
The latest is what the phone provider provides ask them .

Android 4 iCS is due for release soon so further updates are stopped .

You can read the XDA guides as to alternative upgrade methods .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Qvoth:
i see, thanks for the really quick reply ^^
[Desire HD Accessories] Ratix0:
I'm very curous about this battery for Desire HD. From my experience, 3rd party batteries are generally frowned upon because they usually either

1) Does not contain the advertised charge (mah) amount

2) Does contain the advertised amount of charge but the battery spoils fast, and would be unable to hold charge properly after a few months of usage

3) Heat issues, etc, safety issues in general

It seems like many people in this forum have already got the battery and would like to know whats it like so far. my current original DHD battery has already semi gave way after a year+ of usage, it no longer hold the charge proper and I can only charge up till 60+% before it jumps straight to 100%, as well as battery level jumps erratically.

I went to check, seems like the mugen 1500mah battery http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...ery-for-for-htc-desire-hd-softbank-001ht.html cost around $45 US which translates to roughly $56SGD whereas locally the original DHD battery costs $59SGD. Adding a couple of bucks for shipping and all, it definitely works out to be a better battery to purchase if it actually works well (e.g. refer to above criterias).

So I would like to know whether the battery suffer from the problem of holding charge and also any heat/security issues. Considering I've read that many people claim that they get a lot more battery life out of it in their initial usage.
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
you can find plenty of user comments in these threads:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=818794

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=997060

Between the 2 threads, there are about 700 comments
[Desire HD Accessories] Dlog:
If you can live with a modified battery cover then this is superior to the mugen battery and cheaper too:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1344761

Big advantage here is you can use an original sensation/evo3d battery from HTC and don't have to have rely on 3rd party batteries.

On the other hand you can get as much as 1900mAh instead of the 1500mAh mugen offers.
[Desire HD Accessories] Ratix0:
As a matter of fact I have skimmed through that threads and I don't find anyone talking about how the battery life performs after months to a year of usage. This is a common concern because many 3rd party batteries lose their ability to hold charge very quickly after a short period of time. Of course it can be argued that no one complained about it in the thread but thats not substantial enough. The uesr reviews thats stated in those thread that you have linked are mostly by new users who were "wow"ed by the battery and then stop coming over to the thread altogether.
[Desire HD Accessories] Zeitraffer:
Even if they would reply, you wouldn't be able to use their statements because you don't know how they treated the battery so far.

I received my Mugen battery lately and I will be handling it the way I learned from here:

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
I have been using the Mugen battery for about a month now, following their instructions on how to handle the battery during the initial charges.

First, you say "3rd party batteries lose their charge.... after months to a year". Well, my original HTC battery after one year, is - I estimate - about 50% of the new Mugen.

OK, a new battery will outperform an old one, but it's not just 3rd party batteries.

When I changed batteries, the OEM one had actually expanded slightly and it did not slide out of its compartment easily. So the OEM is not a perfect guarantee of a lifetime of high power and good behaviour :)

And, I spent the extra € on Mugen and not the 2000mAh cons from eBay - Mugen has built a reputation over time, it is built to a similar (or higher?) standard as the OEM's.

btw look for a coupon that is valid for 10 or 20% I recall off the standard Mugen price.
[Desire HD Accessories] cxsign:
test1800mAh

Many businesses will pretend to be the large capacity, we choose the best choice in the factory, so the quality guaranteed some. I bought a nominal capacity is 2300 mAh, I test the actual can reach 1800 mAh.
[Desire HD Accessories] msellars2450:
does it give you much better battery life?
[Desire HD Accessories] bosas200:
So if im charghing my battery and it jumps to 100 from 74pct it shows that my battery is in bad condition?
[Desire HD Accessories] Zeitraffer:
Yes, about 22 % (1500:1230= 1,219...)
[Desire HD Accessories] Hunt3r.j2:
No because it's physically impossible.
[Desire HD Accessories] Zeitraffer:
I've measured my battery and, as stated before, it has 1523 mAh.
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
I can confirm this too.
[Desire HD Accessories] Hunt3r.j2:
Give me a screenshot of a true test of the battery using external monitoring. Batteryboss.org is my proof, where is yours?
[Desire HD Accessories] Zeitraffer:
Also I'm not here to battle myself with others about stats.

There's a lot of people that are satisfied with Mugen, even here on the board.

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=12986796

I personally don't care if you don't believe that.
[Desire HD Accessories] Ratix0:
I used a battery testing widget when I first got the mugen battery about 2 months back...

It was around 1300mAh with maximum 15% deviation, stayed around that value for the charge cycles done during that period, for about a couple of weeks.

I'd say its definitely pretty close. My HTC battery was at 800mAh with maximum of 20% deviation by the end of 1 year.

(Deviation comes from the limitation of calculating the mAh if I'm not wrong. Because it takes value of the actual consumption / charging once every minute or so, it kind of either interpolates between values, or just assume the whole 1 minute being the recorded value. Hence the possible variation.)
[Desire HD Accessories] Hunt3r.j2:
Of course you don't, but no, ignorance is not a replacement for knowledge.

Actual testing (250 mA drain until shutoff voltage) shows Mugen to be wrong. Where is proof that you're right?

For the OP: http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Univ...able-Packaging/dp/B00486MH80/ref=pd_sim_cps_6

That should give one full charge of the Desire HD from 0% to 100%. It's about the size of the phone, but thinner.

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-SlimTal..._1_6?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1334818005&sr=1-6

This should give around two to 1.75 full charges.

I would highly suggest going with genuine OEM batteries to get the maximum you can get. Always ask yourself: If it was so easy to get more battery capacity into the phone, why didn't HTC do it?
[Desire HD Accessories] Zeitraffer:
No it's not, because batteryboss.org did not test the Mugen 1500 mAh battery for the HTC Desire HD this thread is about. If they did, please provide a link.

I have posted a screenshot of BatteryMonitorWidgetPro below, showing 1526 mAh of in-use value as complete capacity after 100% complete / 0% discharge cycles.

Also showing 1214 mAh with +- 41% deviation while on daily use, with no complete charge/discharge cycles that I made in the beginning, after I had received the battery on March 13th 2012.

So this is not the complete capacity; the upper value is.

Where? Please provide a link to the test of the Mugen 1500 mAh for HTC Desire HD.

Of course I might be wrong, for I am no technician, but the one test app that I used showed me these values. I haven't read anything about Mugen selling batteries with fake values, so I'd really like to know more about it, if there is :)
[Desire HD Accessories] Hunt3r.j2:
They tested a Mugen battery, which consistently shows that they overrate batteries. By default, the rating of the battery is in serious doubt.

Your own phone is telling you that you're getting exactly OEM capacity, maybe less. Battery Monitor Widget extrapolates what it thinks your mAh rating of the battery is based upon the voltage and the mA consumed to get to that voltage. So far it looks like your battery is either OEM capacity or slightly less. The top 1526 mAh number is what the battery claims to have, not what it really has.

1. Your test app is proving you wrong.

2. Phone based test applications are a horrible idea, proper testing should be done with the battery charged outside the phone to 4.2v then discharged to 3.4v at constant mA drain. Multiply the time that it took to drain by the mA drain used to get your accurate capacity.
[Desire HD Accessories] Zeitraffer:
1 battery doesn't prove anything.

No, it uses historical data (logs) to measure the battery. It doesn't think, it measures.

Please provide a link or anything else for such statements.

No. This is how the app works: This value (1214 mAh) was measured by not draining the battery completely anymore. If I don't drain the pack to 0%, the app cannot measure all the capacity. Simple logic.

No, the battery was measured all the way from 100% to 0%, and that's what came out after several complete cycles. The log is accessible inside the program.

How should it claim another value?

Please prove that statement.

HTC Desire HD is a supported device

http://www.3c71.com/android/?q=node/102

That is just your opinion.
[Desire HD Accessories] :
This fight never seems to end. so many threads about it too. Be funny if all the fighting of mugen vs htc, if mugen actually is who is making batteries for htc with htc branding. lol
[Desire HD Accessories] dmitryu:
Interesting -- I'm getting around 1220-1240 mAh +-10% (ie, with full charge cycles) according to the battery monitor widget with Mugen battery. The stock one was showing around 1100 mAh (after about a year of use). So Mugen is still better, but not quite 1500 mAh, at least provided the battery monitor pro is calibrated ok.
[Desire HD Accessories] Hunt3r.j2:
Yes, and the data based on logs is at the bottom, which is why it also gives a large percentage error because it's not sure based upon your data. If you drain your battery to 10% or less on a regular basis, the percentage error drops as it is more capable of guessing how much mAh is really in the battery.

How should it claim another value? Because it is capable of doing math, that's why. It can extrapolate how much battery you have based upon the amount mA it calculates that is drained for every percent drop. If I tell you that there is a pattern of 2, 4, 6, 8, does this mean that it is completely beyond human comprehension to say that the next number is 10?

It is, and it is showing you that you've been duped by Mugen. Sorry to say, but you got burned. If you paid more than OEM, I'm sorry that it happened, but this is just how it is.

No, that is how you accurately test the battery capacity with precision. You charge it to full capacity, then pull a steady current until it runs out. You multiply the current drain by the amount of time it took to drain to get mAh. This is science, it works whether you want it to or not.

The laws of physics are inescapable. This is how things are. I would love to have a magical battery that has more capacity in the same space.

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Stock was probably just because a year of usage dropped it. New batteries (both OEM and Mugen 1500 mAh) will have about a max of 1300 mAh and a minimum of 1230 mAh tested at the factory.

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Maybe the same supplier, but I would rather take HTC genuine OEMs over ones from a company that doesn't give true capacities.
[Desire HD Accessories] matthew33:
Me too.

Much Rather use Official HTC Desire HD batery, made for the HTC Desire HD.

Stuff pi$$ing about with all this Mugen, Sensation, evo + extended batteries and modifying the battery cover etc etc etc.

Just do what i'm gonna do, buy an OFFICIAL HTC DESIRE HD STANDARD/STOCK batery and use it as a backup, in your pocket/wallet/bag/glovebox etc etc.

cheers

Matt
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
The whole testing thing is notoriously subjective, despite the fact everyone is using numbers.

To really do a proper test, you'd need say 5 HTC OEM batteries and 5 Mugen batteries - to remove the subjectiveness of a 1-1 comparison. Brand new, with a few cycles equally managed.

Then subject them to a test with a constant discharge using the same measuring equipment.

That's not going to happen, on this forum, nor on any other.

So we're left with individuals doing their best to compare their experience with 2 batteries.

MINE is positive for Mugen: I had a new phone with stock ROM for 6 months, then moved to a custom ROM, and also played heavily with battery-conservation techniques. Despite all that, my OEM battery was not making it through the day, so I got the Mugen as a replacement. I may have been unlucky with that particular OEM battery, but it still lost its capacity much faster than expected after just 12 months.

The Mugen is new, a couple of months old now, and is significantly better than the OEM, comparing it to the OEM's recent performance, and it's performance as new albeit with stock ROM and unoptimised sleep settings.

So, in short, you can believe and defend exactly what you want to - it's very difficult to compare apples with apples.

I for one am very happy with the Mugen, and I also bought a 5000mah power pack from NewTrent which is another option.
[Desire HD Accessories] T7nia:
I tried the so called Andida battery, its been a couple of days now. The capacity is the same as the original, doesnt last longer either. so if your original battery is working well then dont bother buying any of these. I can only recommend you to find a good rom that gives you more usage time.

Personally am using Ice cold sandwich at the moment and it gives a little bit more than 5 minutes for 1%. which just about gets me through the day if I use it for all purposes, music about 2 hours, texting & whatsapp through out the day and some internet.
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
I can't comment on the Andida battery, but I think you're lucky if a non-OEM battery lasts the same as the HTC battery, especially after a few months. As repeated on this and many related threads, the Mugen battery does provide extra power, and I believe it's the only one which has managed to fit more capacity into the same size. There will always be doubters, but that's another story.

Coming onto ROMs - a good kernel/ROM combination will definitely improve battery life. ICS is still experimental, so there are definitely ROMs with less consumption than what you mention.

After choosing a ROM, the next step is to tweak the power settings. You can do this effectively with Juice Defender, though purists (see the betterbatterystats thread on xda) do not approve... The trick is to stop the device coming out of sleep by avoiding unneccessary syncing, wifi etc. You can get up to 2x battery life quite easily (JD's estimation, not mine).

Check out the betterbatterystats thread, it provides good advice on where to troubleshoot.
[Desire HD Accessories] garagedroid:
This is one hell of a debate here;) thank you for the infos..and test results..

I am just satisfied with my extended battery and i have been using it for a while now, still good performance, and not worried about ending up my whole day without mobile connection...

But i agree in order to make a proper test you need to drain as many items of each model as possible to have more accurate results.
[Desire HD Accessories] threepointfive:
hi guys,

just finished reading through these three pages here and im also looking for a extended third party's battery for my dhd.

Besides all the experiences with the mugen battery - are there any others you would or would not reccomend?

thanks
[Desire HD Accessories] garagedroid:
What I know is that it lasts long when it comes to life expectancy. A friend of mine is using it for 1.5 years and it's still working fine, showing more than 400 charge cycles life, which is good for any li-ion battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] WingZer0n:
Can try Momax batteries....but from past experience they are half the price of the original HTC batteries but they only last at max a year....still a cheaper option.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] galaxyras:
hi im using edge on my mini but i cant seem to connect to market or any other apps but i can browse just fine im using vodafone india.

Anyone know what the problem is?
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] dheeraj (dhlalit11):
go to the apn setting and if something is there in the ip address then clear it then try
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] duckredbeard:
I have moved on to the HTC Vivid as my daily carry, but still have uses for my HTC Aria. I would like to use it as a full time GPS and media device for the car. Is there a way to remove the SIM card warning and signal strength status bar icons? The device is rooted, so nandroid backups can get me out of trouble. Are there any apps I should consider removing to solve this?

You can't know your limits until you exceed them.