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[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
Have you tried MyBackup? I just use it for backing up but I believe it also freezes etc...

My equation is... patience + experimentation + lots of reading + caution + giddiness. Hopefully lots of reading + caution = insurance. :D

Squire, the key is to invest the time reading about everything before you do it. I spent a lot of time reading the boards about the phone before it got unlocked just to learn my way around android, then a full week reading up before I rooted. And that's not an hour or two after work, I'm between jobs, that was spending a good part of each day really reading about it and the issues people were having and the questions people had and the answers. I compiled a doc of notes I took from the threads I read. I read the entire threads of anything I was planning on doing. It makes it all less daunting and less frustrating since there you have a certainty that it will work and if there's a problem there is a fix.

I think maybe your frustration is just getting the best of you this morning.

If you had done nothing to the phone, the Rezound would "just work" as well or better than any iPhone, and you have the freedom to decide what apps you want to use and how you want to do things with your phone. And you have a better phone that isn't outdated on release date. With new and improved android phones coming out every month or two the iPhone just can't keep up with releases every 14 months or so.

I haven't really had problems with bad apps. This is my first smartphone and I'm running a custom ROM with a custom kernel with basically no issues. I've got a beautiful red theme and skin and custom icons and I absolutely love my phone. The home screen is gorgeous and each of my screens are used for different things, one is for media, one is for work stuff, one is for tools and gadgets, etc... You can't do that on an iPhone.

Try what I'm running, it works like a charm, try it with the stock rooted kernel first. I may be having an issue switching off my kernel atm, still going to experiment with that plus I'm sure there's a way to make it happen. And lately I do have a status bar issue that I'm pretty sure is due to an app or two but I;m just going to restore a nand or reflash my ROM and try to get rid of that. To me that is a minor inconvenience when all the pluses are taken into account.

It also helps that I love geeking out over my phone. I think it's all fun, so even if I hit a snag I enjoy figuring out how to get out of it. If I thought I could put the time into it I would probably become a dev or at least a themer. As it is I spend too much time playing with my phone as a user.

Anyway... after you get your phone stable maybe you'll like it again. :)
[HTC Rezound] hopesrequiem:
You need an iphone. Done deal. Don't make devs feel bad for not living up to your nutty standards. Just saying. They do an incredible job. And get nothing in return. Not being mean, just realistic. Get a blackberry or iphone if you're that annoyed bro
[HTC Rezound] WookieFan:
Agreed. No harm in going for what works for you. And running leaked ROMs on a rooted phone just may not be right for you. Especially when those methods have not had some time to shake out the faults.

And aside from all that's been gone over in this thread, almost every ROM I have seen comes with a disclaimer. If you are in any way uncomfortable with the possible results of your actions, just don't do it.

Hate to say it Squires, but you may have given a valuable object lesson on why those disclaimers exist. Hopefully others can learn through your experiences.
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
It's less about the devs and more about you guys, if I am completely honest here.

They work hard, for free, so it doesn't matter what the output of the product is from that viewpoint, it is what it is.

I am more questioning why so many people will outright RAVE about something that doesn't work as well as what VZW puts out.

I know that "newer is better" is the automatic assumption, but I don't know that I agree with that.
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
Yeah, which is why I am voicing my opinions. I am surely not the only person in this boat, and perhaps my adventures will give others a reason to think deeper and question what they are doing before pulling the trigger on something just because everyone else claims it is "so awesome!!!" when in fact it usually isn't.
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
Those who rave about something are generally correct in their rave. The devs make the ROMs work perfectly on their phones. So, you're right about one thing...If you can't get it to work the way that they're getting it to work on their phone, you're doing something wrong. An analogy that I used with my friend about iPhone and Android is this...You go to a car dealership and have a choice of 2 cars...Honda Accord or Alfa Romeo. You get the Accord if you want a bland, albeit very nice and working, car. You get the Alfa if you want an experience like none other that you've ever experienced. Sure it's going to have some trouble at some point, and it will be up to you to fix it. But in the end, you'll be happier that you had that amazing ride even though it took a little more work. You, my friend, need to get out of the Alfa and hop over to the Accord. It'll work for you. It won't let you down. And you won't be able to mess it up.
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
But if you had read the threads you would have known about any issues. It appears that you glossed over things and didn't educate yourself as to what the reality is and what to expect realistically. You can't jump into the deep end before you know how to swim and then blame those who are swimming in there and having fun while you're trying to keep yourself from drowning.
[HTC Rezound] mjh68:
Some people rave for the reasons pointed out earlier that everyones expectations and experience differs. Most roms I have run are just as good as stock on my phone and I can choose what I put on it. Joel's latest runs fine seems as smooth as stock, just faster and themed :).
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
I understand that, I use the same analogy when people ask me why I am a diehard Ducati owner and fan when I could get a GSX-R cheaper, etc...

The truth is that there is very little difference between the two performance wise, and today, the Ducati doesn't cost all that much more to maintain, they really have closed the gap. It's about the experience, the feel of it, the attitude... Hard to explain, but it really FEELS different riding a race-bred Italian twin on the road or track as opposed to riding one of the cookie-cutter Japanese inline 4's...

So I get all that. I just wonder why it is that people claim how awesome something is, when it doesn't really do a lot of the basics that the phone came with out of the box. Not to get into any particular ROM or version, but battery charging issues, flashing blue screens, BT Audio issues, camera only supporting 3mp, no Beats Audio or even the ability to use alternate equalizers, this app doesn't work, that screen FC's...

I have seen all of those things, and despite all that and more, I see people talking about how great it is... So after my experiences, I simply ask the question, Why? Why is something that doesn't work all that well, great? What makes it great? Because it looks pretty? If the person didn't know that it has some parts of ICS under the hood, and that they were getting something "before the unwashed masses", would they be as amped up to get it?

If someone released a GB ROM that had all those issues, would people get excited, or would they say that it sucks because it isn't even as good as the OTA?

I think that people just get so eager to get the next version of the OS, that they sorta put in blinders to a lot of things that I would consider glaring faults...

It's just a discussion, I am simply trying to understand the rationale here...
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
Lol, I like this metaphor.

And feralicious knows what she's talking about. I think she might have printed out every page in these forums, read them, taken notes, wrote a thesis, discussed it with other android users, then reread everything twice before watching how-to videos for 6 hours a day. She knows, trust me. :D

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Right, it is all about the feel, just like the bike. Those of us, like me, who rave about a ROM is because any issues that might be there, such as the bluetooth, for example, are things that we don't use. That's how it is for me. I mean, I don't have stuff FC all the time, I don't have the flicker anymore. But the way that ICS feels and runs on the phone is just slick and smooth. It's just more refined to me. That being said, I totally see what you're saying. But then again, no one is going to release a GB ROM like that right now because we have the entire source code for it. Right now we're working off a leak of ICS. That's it. Just a leak. It's not the completed ROM. Therefore, it's not going to be perfect yet. So, for what it is, it is amazing. Is it perfect? No. Will it kill your phone and make it unusable? No. I would suggest flashing a GB ROM for now, then hopping over to ICS when we get the full release from HTC. Then you'll be happy.

EDIT: And if it sounds like I'm rambling...I am. I've slept for about 8 hours in the past 3 and a half days.
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
All of that is, I think, because those people are excited for ICS since most of them have probably been on GB for a while. But it's a leak so it's not perfect but they're excited to just have any flavor of ICS atm. Like if you got your hands on a prototype of the latest and greatest racing bike but some stuff didn't work quite right you'd probably still be raving about getting to ride it to your friends because it's not officially out yet and you got a taste of it.

That's the very reason I haven't ventured into ICS land though, I read about the issues and decided I didn't need it. GB is new to me though since this is my first smartphone so I'm not clamoring to see what ICS is all about.

I would just go with a GB ROM now, it will be debloated and bug free and you will have everything working. I'm liking Ineffabilis a lot and everything works, and it has some great features that stock doesn't have. Can't speak for other ROMs since this is the only one I've tried.
[HTC Rezound] hopesrequiem:
All I'm saying is your ranting about leaked roms is a waste of all our time. Don't flash leaks if you want it to work. If you do flash, then deal with it rather then *****ing about it over five pages of thread. Just saying, you being upset with roms is rather stupid. Let's see you make one that works flawless
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
Am I ranting? I didn't see that, perhaps I missed that part...
[HTC Rezound] hopesrequiem:
All I hear is complaining. You don't need help, you're just *****ing. If you want a phone to work out of the box get an iPhone. If you want to experiment with how good a phone can be, keep your rezound. What is the point of complaining for five pages of thread? Stop crying bro
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
The Rezound does work out of the box. Just want to clarify so that doesn't become a talking point. ;)

Problems arose when someone started messing around without understanding the implications and what reasonable expectations they should have.
[HTC Rezound] OLDsJUNKIE:
Yep, If you read all the posts in threads concerning ROMs you're considering you see the problems they have and the problems they don't. You can't jump right on flashing a ROM without finding out what you're getting into first. The Devs do great work here. The GB ROMs out ARE better than stock. Faster, better battery life, nice mods. ICS on this phone is bleeding edge and if you jack up your phone because of lack of diligence, that's your fault. Plus, there are a lot of people here on this forum that have helped you out of binds that you got yourself into because of rushing in. How do I know? Because I read the threads. All of them.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
Its a matter of to each their own.

I felt the same on the thunderbolt, the custom ROMs were nice, but once I used the updated stock, rooted, debloated, it seemed just as good.

But on the Rezound, I like ICS. I have thought about going back to GB, but I like sense on ICS. The ability to make folders means I don't have to use another app. I can tether with wireless tether (mobile hotspot has been crap for me speed wise). My only complaint is that BT is wonky which means I have to reset the phone each time I pair the BT, but since this phone doesn't take 3 minutes to reset like the bolt, its not so bad.

It's about positive vs negative. For you, the negative outweighs the positive so I can understand. But it doesn't mean the ROMs aren't "awesome".

You should maybe check out the next gen of wp7. Not as locked down as apple, more hardware to choose from. Really great experience. The only reason I jumped to android was for LTE. I really miss zune music app.
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
Exactly. I had the wrong expectations, which I clearly stated up front. What other people consider "awesome" obviously differs from mine. The rest has just been academic...
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
So let's turn this thread around into something positive...

ICS seems to be the real issue. It's a leak, it has bugs, it creates an OS that is not really ideal and you have to accept all that goes with that...

So let's consider GB based ROMs. If I want to keep Sense, want it bloat free, fast, utterly smooth and stable, some nice menus and basic mods and no mainver issues(important!), have corporate email and 100% full functionality of the stock OTA, but with more speed and little to no bloat, knowing what you do of my needs based on our discussion, what's the best bet?
[HTC Rezound] jcollier:
I just left Scott's CleanRom 1.6.5 and it is GB based. I connected to our Exchange problem with no issues, and he has removed all the bloat. It isn't themed, which was one of the main reasons I liked it. It worked just as well as the stock software, and was definitely faster. As far as the mainver issue, this will update you to the same mainver number as the latest OTA. Without reading through the whole thread, I am not sure if you have taken the OTA or not, but realistically this would not cause you any problems because even if you wanted to go back to stock you would go back to the same version as OTA.

[ROM] - 2/3 - CleanROM GBE 1.6.5 *SP1* - Base: OTA 2.01.605.11
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
I am on the latest OTA. The RUU that I used is 605.11 so this should pose no problem. So I just do a factory wipe, then install his ROM and then install the SP1? No kernel to mess with, nothing?

See, this is probably the level of ROMing that I should limit myself to. Stay on the stock kernel, stock mainver and just use GB ROMs that are very stable, coded properly, etc... And when ICS OTA comes out, then move to the ICS ROMs...

Any other suggestions, other than to stop *****ing about ICS ROMs? ;-)
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
Probably the stock OTA ROM + some manual debloat. Just chucking services like Verizon Backup Assistant speeds up this phone. My suggestion would be to delete all of the apps that have a market equivalent(ie facebook). That way you can remove the HTC bloated components of these applications.
[HTC Rezound] jcollier:
After you install Scott's ROM it will reboot into HBOOT and install the kernel for you. It is very slick and works quite well.
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
Running Scott's cleanROm and the SP1. Runs nice. But what is odd is that after doing a factory wipe/reset, installing the ROM, updating kernel, adding SP1, I still get the same issue where ROM Toolbox cannot freeze the apps.

I have to go run my ADB script and only after I do that can ROM Toolbox or any other app(TIB, Root Freeze, etc...) go and freeze any apps without hanging...

It really is weird, but it does seem to be running well now...
[HTC Rezound] hopesrequiem:
Good glad you got something you're happier with bro. :-) that's weird about your phone not freezing apps. Usually I just uninstall. Never tried to freeze but titanium always worked on my bolt.
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
Yeah, I don't know why it does that. I mean, I did an RUU that was successful, that should have had my phone back to bone stock. And it isn't like it was just one app, it was the 3 that I tried. ROM Toolbox Pro, TIB Pro and another app that someone suggested. 3 different apps, all misbehaving in exactly the same way.

So then I switch to Scott's ROM after a Factory wipe, and the same story.

I cannot think of anything that would cause that in all these different scenarios...
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
Not trying to be smart or anything but why freeze bloat? Back it up and delete it. BTW Disabling apps stopped working after the OTA on GB. Still works 100% on ICS.
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
Eh? So by freezing them it doesn't actually disable them? So what should I do, use Astro to back them up to the SD card and then go in with root explorer and delete the apk's frome the /system/apps directory?
[HTC Rezound] nosympathy:
Or use titanium backup and uninstall them instead of freezing.
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
What about just taking the APK files that I don't want, and physically moving them to a folder on the SD card? So they are no longer in the system apps folder, but I still have copies in case I needed one and had to put it back?

Astro let's you select multiple files and then select "move", and I can paste them wherever I want... Thoughts?
[HTC Rezound] OLDsJUNKIE:
I just delete the bastards, but I don't see why on a deodexed ROM like CleanROM why you couldn't just copy them to a new folder. Or even copy them over to a PC for that matter.
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
Here's my thought. Use a script. It lets you plan your moves and undo them easier...here I'll get you started:

echo off
adb remount
adb shell mkdir /system/app/backup
adb shell mv /system/app/HtcCalulatorWidget.apk /system/app/backup/
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
Nice, very cool!
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
As far as GB ROMs I really like Ineffabilis. chingy just posted that an update to the OTA is coming so it will soon be on the same mainver as you. And if you're really into red there's a nice theme, RedZound, that works great with it, although it will have to be updated along with the ROM update. And then add the Red Beats skin by mcluvn and it's beautiful. I also use red & black icons from an ADW pack called DigitalSoul.

As far as backing up apps... AppMonster Pro is great! It'll back up apps as soon as you download them and it's very easy on the eyes to reinstall them. You'd still have to delete them but you always know every app is already backed up to your external card.

Of course TiBU does that as well and also MyBackup Pro is great and those two also back up other stuff like settings and such. I go overkill and use all three so I'm covered in case of any problems.
[HTC Rezound] WookieFan:
Hmm, your troubles have also made me wonder about your use of TiBU. Are you using it is restore apps and data from another phone, or even from a freshly rooted stock Rezound?

If so, that could cause all sorts of wacky behavior. I even think scrosler specifically states that you shouldn't use any TiBU data on his ROMs.

I have used TiBU to restore certain app data on my DInc between different ROMs and had to be very careful about OS versions when doing so.

I once tried to bring bookmarks from Froyo to GB and that caused all sorts of havoc with my phone. Eventually had to restore a nand to get things right again.

Just putting that out there in case it may be contributing to your troubles.
[HTC Rezound] surfer2.3:
Back in the day of WinMo *. * cooking your own custom ROM's was a requirement. My Dinc was so functional I never had the urge to root and flash. For now, same deal with my Rezound. March is not very far away...ymmv.
[HTC Rezound] hopesrequiem:
March for what?
[HTC Rezound] WookieFan:
Supposed release date of official ICS for our Rezounds.
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
I believe that is when it was reported that ICS will be released to the Rezound. I say don't hold your breathe.
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
March for Peace!!!
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
No. I didn't restore anything at either point. I did a clean install of the RUU, and later a flash of Scott's latest CleanRom, and in both case, TiBu, ROM Toolbox Pro and another app would not freeze apps. They would hang, indefinitely and I would have to force close the app and reopen it and then the app was frozen. They I would have to select the next one, it would freeze, manually force close, go back in, select next, repeat...

I never restore my apps that way. Astro simply copies the APK files to your SD card to restore them later, there is no app data or anything and it is the last thing that I do when setting up the phone...
[HTC Rezound] SquireSCA:
I bet we don't see it till May or June...
[HTC Rezound] jcollier:
The Rezound is not in the batch that will be receiving ICS in March. We are still in the "later this year" group with the Vivid, Amaze Evo 3D, etc. Though, the sensation family is receiving the March update, and maybe that will lead to more 'stable' leaks.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] tytung2020:
http://www.obostore.com/rock-big-city-flip-leather-case-for-samsung-galaxy-note-p-4089.html#show

I always think that diary-like flip case has a major issue: cannot use thumb to operate the screen. You still can do that but need to fold back the cover, but do this too often will eventually make the edge worn out..

SO I think flip down is the best option, but major companies like Zenus don't make flip-down cases..all I can found (which looks the best ) is this Rock Big City ..

Anyone is using it now? Or any comments on flip -down cases ?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] tytung2020:
No one .........??
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Accessories] letters_to_cleo:
Im with you on this.

I don't like the flip wallet size one as it's kind of awkward on my end having a call or getting one by flipping the wallet one all the way at the back.

I'm more comfortable getting the flip down one. No hassle and quick access on the phone (just by flipping down to open and flipping up to close after.)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pojieps:
Came across this website the other day. Anyone have any knowledge or experience with this?

http://www.customgadz.com/store/category.php?id_category=5

Here is a video example of what it can do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=633Kn4XkmJA
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ThatoneKid77:
Wow this thing is awesome.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] mimi1305:
Hello,

i have a french S5830,but i have flash with KPH ( that's ok ) and with a custom rom from north country --> problem: Now,when i select Azerty keyboard,i have a Qwerty keyboard!!!

How i can change that please?

thank you so much for your help and have a nice day.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hulahulahoj:
You can install swiftkey keyboard which after selecting your language gives you an option to choose between different keyboard layouts.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] mimi1305:
thank you,but i want to keep my factory keyboard... no install an application...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Malherbe:
Hello

Look this post

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1422532

I'm french this keyboard ok for you :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] mimi1305:
wow un français :D lol

we can't talk french,but thank you,will look at ur post :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Jarmezrocks:
reserving this post.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] TheGunner22:
ok, i will trying, and have problem with scan of wifi, and i dont from T-Mobile, so it's can do video call 3g if i'm from israel??
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] NickDunn:
FM rad?

do you mean the FM works in your ROM? (or should be.)

thanks dude.:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] adm1jtg:
sent you pm

with updated findings
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] siky_dude:
"awesome Darky style and bring the samsung feel (and less ASOP - sorry nothing against it)"

afaik, darky has "AOSP" style status bar and... almost everything is AOSP style`d.