yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Rezound] spitzaf:
Yeah, and in doing so you'd essentially be creating this ROM.

It'd be nice if the de-Sense tools could re-enable AOSP features, then there would be no need for duplication of effort. Devs create the Sense ROM and include the de-Sense tool, then users can toggle on or off which they'd like. Less work maintaining 2 ROMs = more work fixing bugs and adding features.

Or better yet, have the base be AOSP and then Sense/Moto Blur/TouchWiz are just theme packs applied on top.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Yes this please.
[HTC Rezound] grindnmosh:
Bad post wrong thread
[HTC Rezound] dejahboi:
Downloading :)
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Its UP :) Enjoy
[HTC Rezound] Ranger093:
Seems to be working pretty good, got one forceclose about Lee Droid however the SU prompt came up and took care of that. Only issue is laggy ass launcher.
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Joel you're a machine! I veer away from the forums for awhile.. come back and bam! Senseless version up already :eek:. Thanks!

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If you don't like the trebuchet launcher you can always use Nova. I've always found Nova to be very smooth.
[HTC Rezound] Deathbyfugu:
Running well so far, Joel. Only issue is the constant FC of settings after attempting to unmount the Micro SD through Settings > Storage
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Not having this issue and I've unmounted my SD card and remounted 10 times in a row. GPS icon seems to not want to go away though 8(.
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Next beta will have GPS icon removed
[HTC Rezound] seandalton0:
Not having the mount/unmount FC either.

All in all this thing is AWESOME. Many thanks!
[HTC Rezound] DasSmurf:
Looks awesome :) I love senseless/aosp. Thanks so much.
[HTC Rezound] zonbal33:
so mms stock app doesnt work, you can fix it but just dont want to?
[HTC Rezound] foggytown:
I think he means that it will be fixed in a future version.
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
hopefully that's the next release! ICS is such a refreshingly nice interface and I love all the new ICS apps, but the mms is the only issue keeping me from flashing this. Real excited.
[HTC Rezound] mrbigdrawsz:
So JoelZ,

Why'd you choose to use Trebuchet? What was the reasoning behind that?
[HTC Rezound] Thadrow:
Senseless !!!! <3333
[HTC Rezound] mpalatsi:
From what I can tell, Joelz likes to stick to the original plan as much as possible.
[HTC Rezound] jackpot08:
Link is down
[HTC Rezound] tech9tcv:
Keep trying. I just downloaded on the first shot.
[HTC Rezound] foggytown:
JoelZ, I love this ROM. A hearty thank you for your efforts!

For the first time I feel like my Rezound is my own.
[HTC Rezound] Deathbyfugu:
Curious - I've had this issue on every Desensed ICS ROM. Perhaps my SD card is dying.
[HTC Rezound] andybones:
hey guys added a wake on vol MOD,

and remove of GPS cross-hairs.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=22750547#post22750547
[HTC Rezound] ih8mydroid:
Camera crashes

I have been unable to get the camera even up and running for more than a few seconds before it just closes. Anybody else having this issue? Other than that this rom runs just fine!
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
Never mind this is a senseless rom
[HTC Rezound] Thadrow:
My issues, no ringtone sound, battery shows a red ! Even fully charged. Camera opens when it wants to, then closes.

Btw your link showed it was uploaded a week aho is that right ?
[HTC Rezound] jackpot08:
I click on link to download and it says last updated one week ago when in the title it says it was updated today. Any ideas?
[HTC Rezound] mrbigdrawsz:
Anybody else having trouble getting backgrounds to load from images already existing in your gallery that aren't doubled in size and look very grainy? Seems like it forces them to increase in resolution with this particular ROM.

Also, to add to the crash report regarding brightness...the same happens when choosing volume with in the sounds menu as well.
[HTC Rezound] mcfarlan:
Not sure why, but the link doesn't seem to be to the latest Rom. The one I downloaded was ICSSenselessRedefined and it was only 250MB. Except for the FC on brightness from Settings, not having any of the issues in the last 5 or so posts. Brightness can be adjusted from Quick Settings without any issues though.
[HTC Rezound] foggytown:
Earlier folks were saying it was slow or unavailable. I wonder if the server somehow got rolled back to the earlier version.

Just to repeat, the proper one is ICSSenselessRedefined.zip and weighs in at 250 MB. This is the one I'm running and I don't have any of the issues mentioned either.
[HTC Rezound] tech9tcv:
Restart issues

Nevermind... I must've downloaded the wrong file. There's no way it could have this many issues.
[HTC Rezound] Demiurge7:
The link says updated 1 week ago, and is at 295mb. Is there another link? Confused here...
[HTC Rezound] tpulu:
The only ROM I see when I click the link in the OP is Redefined-Senseless.zip and its 295 mb.... I'm guessing that's why I was getting the random reboots... So I went back to Sense redefined until I can get the right Rom download.
[HTC Rezound] Thadrow:
Yeah, the server prob rolled back, seeing as people habing downloaded different versions.
[HTC Rezound] mjh68:
Something must have happened to the download link because this a.m. around 0700 central I was able to download the proper one. It said redefined senseless and was loaded 5 hours prior and yes it was a 250mb download.
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
Does this have this rom have the lock screen issue when getting a call(wouldn't be an issue if I didn't like using a patter lock).
[HTC Rezound] muness:
Yes it does.
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
That's no good. Thanks.
[HTC Rezound] jrsmith:
The download link in the OP is still busted. Can someone who managed to snag the updated version post it up somewhere else, at least temporarily?
[HTC Rezound] Seamonkey79:
I second... I was about to install it when I looked and saw that I had the old version instead of the new one :( Really wanted to get some ICS on :-)
[HTC Rezound] udz2002:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22712916&postcount=591
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
And I can use this with the pattern lock, i.e. have that also not show up(only one I care to not show up when receiving a call)?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
THats weird server rolled back...ill post a new update today anyways
[HTC Rezound] GreenXSniper:
Does this have the ics systemui.apk?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
No its themed to look like ICS SystemUI...and has leedroid tweaks...dont flash yet because the server rolled back so only the old download is available
[HTC Rezound] Shadow-Nexus:
Whats the process to flash this?

download both files and then put boot img into the flash zip?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
After the whole day of trial and error and debloating i finnaly got the rom to 229.7mb
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
What are some of the things you take out to make it so light? If the rom is lighter does it usually mean it would also be faster/smoother? Were you able to take a look at MMS, or no? Thanks.
[HTC Rezound] GreenXSniper:
ahh alright thanks
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Joel said he knows how to fix the MMS issue but for now to use GOSMS. Also I noticed the dropdown notifications the back looks greyish. Just wanted to let a brotha know! Thanks Joel!
[HTC Rezound] Shadow-Nexus:
Anyone??????
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
Does this have the settings in the drop down bar, like some CM9 roms have it?
[HTC Rezound] xjacobx:
my guess would be flash the boot.img in fast boot then boot into recovery and install the ROM. or vise versa if you prefer.
[HTC Rezound] Thadrow:
Search is your friend, sigh.

Put the p98img in root of your sd card. Flash the senseless zip in recovery then boot to bootloader right after where itll prompt you to update your boot.img after you flash make sure you delete p98 from the sd card to avoid problems with bootloader in the future.
[HTC Rezound] jackpot08:
thanks man. glad to see i was crazy with no download link lol
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Anyone else's Gallery force closing when you try to look at a picture?
[HTC Rezound] paulhoop:
Yes, me too...
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
You guys are on the old version of the Rom. Wait till an update comes out today or tomorrow.
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Hmm. I downloaded it pretty much the minute Joel uploaded the ROM last night. But if that's the case I'll just wait for Joel to upload once more.
[HTC Rezound] CharliesTheMan:
If it's 250 MB you got the new one before the revert, but he's going to be uploading an updated version with more changes and fixes.
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Oh okay. Wish I.could have grabbed a copy of it before it dissapeared. Hopefully Joel already has it fixed in the updated version.
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Yeah I have the 250MB file. I just put the sense gallery back in and that'll do 'er for now.
[HTC Rezound] username235:
Would it be possible to port over the keyboard from 4.0? I tried just pushing it through root explorer, but it didn't work, of course
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
Sense or ICS?

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This the working ICS camera that works at 8mp right?
[HTC Rezound] Flyhalf205:
Isn't there a ICS keyboard on the market?
[HTC Rezound] username235:
I meant Sense 4.0. And really, wtf, I swear I posted this in Joelz other thread. Guess I opened the wrong one

---------- Post added at 09:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:36 PM ----------

Yes, it's simply called Ice Cream Sandwich keyboard. I ended up buying it, it's nice, and has more options than the stock ics keyboard

Oh and the one I'm talking about is by the developer johntanmi, or something like that
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
What are some of the options it has over stock?
[HTC Rezound] username235:
Theme support, adjust portrait height, automatic space after punctuation, and the ability to tap on words from earlier in the text to edit them, like you previously could on the gingerbread keyboard. I think that's it, may be more. There's a free version if you wanna try it, didn't have all the features of the donation version though
[HTC Rezound] username235:
Here's a picture of the advanced options

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[HTC Rezound] mad1100:
First off, I wanted to say thanks for posting this. I really appreciate the hard work you put into it.

I just flashed everything and have been getting constant reboots. I can not even restore all of my titanium backup apps before it reboots half way through the process.

I came from cleanrom ICS, not sure if they matters, but any help is appreciated.
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
Read a few pages back.....
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Alright 229mb is the final size flashing last test then ill upload...
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
Nice, was anything good taken out?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Don't remeber the hours of 5pm-to present are a blur lol
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
What time is it for you now?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
10pm......download links in the OP enjoy
[HTC Rezound] ICUDeadNow:
Can anyone comment on this?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Nope like all my roms i aim for stability first and the aosp SystemUI.apk that other devs are using kills stability [force closes are annoying] [no im not hating on other devs just saying my opinion of the systemui.apk]
[HTC Rezound] ICUDeadNow:
What does this mean, Removed GPS Reticle?

And will more CM9 setting be added in the next version?

Is there anyway around the sms issue because I never liked gosms, sorry.
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Removed the gps icon from statusbar....and yea they will be....and u can install the htc sense mms.apk if you wanted to
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
mms status?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Doesn't work I think ill provide an htc sense mms app for now..but any other sms app from the market will work...it doesn't have to be gosms it can be any other sms app
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Use gosms or port htcmms over.
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
Ahhh...so the issue is the aosp messaging app...I thought something that was removed caused mms to break.
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Nah its just the aosp sms app
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Hmm gallery is still closing for me when browsing pictures.
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Im browsing pictures fine..
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
I can browse some pictures without any issues, while others fc my gallery. I don't have this issue w/ the sense gallery though. Is face unlock working for you?
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
Do you think there is a reason why that every other MMS app works but the stock/aosp doesn't?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
just stock aosp app is dependant on an aosp rom i though i could fix it quick but its going to take a while 3rd party sms apps are built for any rom or device so they work universally
[HTC Rezound] bigsnack:
Just to be clear since this is Sense based so to speak the Sense mms app can work, but aosp can't, but SMS is all good.
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
So strange gallery is still closing for me when I select certain pictures still. I've wiped everything known to mankind hmm. Anyone else having trouble with face unlock as well?
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Face unlock doesnt work and gallery works fine for me
[HTC Rezound] ICUDeadNow:
Worked for me under your Sensed version, so the reason for not working on this tasty rom?
[HTC Rezound] DanDroidOS:
whats the difference between the 1.7.zip and the 1.5.zip? thanks in advance:)
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
1.5 = 1.5ghz (stock speeds)

1.7 = 1.7ghz (oc'd)
[HTC Rezound] mpalatsi:
Wasn't there suppose to be an update last night? Maybe it's there and I'm not seeing it? :confused:
[HTC Rezound] muness:
If you follow the download link, you'll see that it was uploaded last night:

Filename: ICSSENSELESS403REDEFINED.zip

Size: 229.55 MB (240705651 bytes)

Uploaded By: Anonymous

Uploaded On: 2012-02-21 00:48:59
[HTC Rezound] trevorperry:
can't wait to try this when I get home, but quick question, what is the difference between this rom and the rom JoelZ is working on with dmeadows?????
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
Well I can confirm the gallery issue. Its not a bad flash or app restore either. Most pictures open up fine without issues, but if I try to open pictures I took from Joel's ics sense from it will crash the gallery. Not sure if the file size is too large or what's going on, but the issue is definitely there

.
[HTC Rezound] mrbigdrawsz:
Where do I add and delete pages on the latest version? Looks like the Trebuchet options were removed and I can't find where else to do it.
[HTC Rezound] zeroxg4:
Yeah, same issue here
[HTC Rezound] sdsurferbob:
exchange

anyone have success setting up an exchange account? I get to the final step and then it just hangs trying to verify. I'm going to reflash and hope for the best. Exchange is my one critical element. Other than that, looks really sharp, thanks!
[HTC Rezound] mrbigdrawsz:
When using the stock email I don't even get an option to got with Exchange. Now, it might be because I'm using Enhanced Email to sync my Exchange account. But when I go to setup in the stock it only give IMAP & POP.

BTW, I think Enhanced is a MUCH better option although the price IS a little steep IMO.
[HTC Rezound] sdsurferbob:
I get the option for a "Corporate" account in Settings->Accounts, which is the same as Exchange. I like the stock email and calendar apps, though the contacts app could use some work (like how to search by company?). It hangs at "checking incoming server settings", then times out. I know my settings are correct, so it's unique to this ROM. Not even sure what apk's I should try and swap out from any of the others to get it working.
[HTC Rezound] z0mghii:
I believe JoelZ rom is a sense rom that has been desensed with aosp apps. Dmeadow's rom is pure aosp, built from scratch (hence why data and other tools are not working yet).
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
jk...........
[HTC Rezound] Piercing Heavens:
Does the slide to unlock the sense ring or is that removed? I use a pattern lock so slide to unlock is a pain in the ass on any from I use.
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
Is that both sending AND receiving?
[HTC Rezound] mpalatsi:
Music is not being found on ext-sd, any ideas?
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
Just tried sending...no go...false alarm, sorry
[HTC Rezound] mrbigdrawsz:
Do you have your phone connected as a drive? If so it won't read it.
[HTC Rezound] mpalatsi:
It eventually found it, just took a while.
[HTC Rezound] Demiurge7:
This is one of the few issues I am having as well. I cant seem to get any pictures to stay open. Any work around found?
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
You could always use Quickpic from the Market. It's pretty nice and will work until the gallery is fixed.
[HTC Rezound] mrbigdrawsz:
So I guess the option(s) to change the Trebuchet options has been removed from the version updated last night?

BTW, I know I always come on here with issues, etc...but JoelZ I just want to say thanks for all the hard work you and your developer buddies put into this. Love flashing these things and seeing what's new in them and what you all have come up with.

Keep up the good work and keep me wasting my time flashing my phone daily. :D
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
Use Nova launcher instead of Trebuchet. It has all sorts of options like getting rid of that stupid Google search bar on every page :D
[HTC Rezound] mrbigdrawsz:
Well I thought Trebuchet was cooked into this ROM to give it the ICS feel like it does (like the previous version). Am I wrong in thinking that?
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
Yeah, but Nova Launcher is the exact same, just with more options. I think Joelz wanted to use Trebuchet so it's as close to stock 4.0.3. Plus I think it might be a little lighter than Nova. But Nova Launcher is the exact same as Trebuchet except that you can do more with it. You could just load Nova as a system app and then delete or freeze Trebuchet.
[HTC Rezound] mrbigdrawsz:
Nova is pretty cool...very smooth but find that the blue flicker is much worse with this launcher being used than with Trebuchet.

Update: After switching back and forth I'm actually getting the flicker a lot with both launchers. Interesting, wasn't noticing this previously.
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
Hmm, not sure why. I don't get the flicker much at all.
[HTC Rezound] mpalatsi:
I suggest reflashing. I notice that my blue flicker disappears after a fresh install of the ROM.
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
I don't know if anyone noticed, but the alarm only vibrates. I checked all the settings and tested it three times. It just does not ring, it will only vibrate. Something I can't live with so I am gonna have to flash another rom until that gets fixed. I use my phone to wake up every morning.
[HTC Rezound] zeroxg4:
The alarm works just fine. I've been using it every day since the latest iteration of this ROM came out (and on all previous versions as well).
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
I flashed it twice still can't get it to work. The last version worked fine. O well. I will wait for the next update. Plus the gallery still force closes all the time too.
[HTC Rezound] tpulu:
My alarm went off just fine this morning. You may want to check your settings... Under sound there is a seperate slider for alarm volume...

That would be in Settings>Sound>Volumes
[HTC Rezound] zeroxg4:
Did you wipe everything? If so, then it sounds like a bad download. Did you verify the MD5? I'm not having any of the problems that you are and I am on the latest release.
[HTC Rezound] FTL_Ian:
With my lockscreen on, calls ringing in are invisible unless I unlock the lockscreen. Anyone else experiencing this?

Outside that - excellent battery life.
[HTC Rezound] renzo.olivares:
Think of it as a feature :) lol
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
Never mind I got the alarm working, for some reason the ring tone the alarm was using by default wasn't working. I changed it to new day and it rang up just fine.
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
This happened to me too this morning...I was late for work. Default tone doesn't work though.
[HTC Rezound] mpalatsi:
Anyone not able to charge past 91%?
[HTC Rezound] mrbigdrawsz:
JOELZ, before I reflash are you posting another release today?
[HTC Rezound] sdsurferbob:
No other exchange users out there?
[HTC Rezound] Thadrow:
that is believed to have todo with having a 3.8v battery.
[HTC Rezound] seandalton0:
Same here, not sure if its related to the whole 3.7v vs 3.8v batteries and ICS roms. Maybe someone with a better understanding of that issue could clarify.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1463978
[HTC Rezound] FTL_Ian:
Swype is running at a about 1/2 screen width.
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Turn your animations on to 1.5x and force gpu rendering for 2D. But I do notice blue flickers alot more in this release vs previous release. Speed test flickers blue sometimes and Inotia 3 flickers blue like no tomorrow :(.
[HTC Rezound] z0mghii:
Where can I find the settings to those you listed?
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Settings > Developer Options.
[HTC Rezound] rockingondrums:
I hate the one by johntanmi. He wrote in the description that he fixed "I" not being auto capitalized, but it was still busted. I happen to use the word "I" a lot. :P

I'm really happy with this one: "IceCream Sandwich-ICS Keyboard" by VLLWP

In addition to actually auto-capitalizing, it seems to be the only keyboard that is utilizing Speech-To-Text the way that it was demoed when ICS was shown off. Black background, soft glowing red circle around the mic icon, waits for you to continue dictation...
[HTC Rezound] clemson91:
Thanks so much for the rom, it's very clean and smooth. The only problem is the gallery still fc when you go to view a picture, and I'm running the newest version.

I extracted the gallery.apk from newt/Xtreme Outcast senseless rom, but when I try to install it it just says not installed. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Sidenote: Does anyone know how to get the justin.tv viewer app to work on these ICS roms if possible? Thanks
[HTC Rezound] supermiah:
I have flashed every thing and seems to be working smooth except I am only getting "1X" on my data. Any thoughts?
[HTC Rezound] jalin725:
I don't think that's the Rom. Running previous Rom and right not only getting 1x. I think its vzw
[HTC Rezound] bigmew22:
Did you flash the senseless 1.7 kernal?
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Maybe I'm slow but I'm not seeing that setting.

I'll take a screenshot.
[HTC Rezound] overlord727:
I can't connect to data either. I have tried both kernels. I was on 3g for a few seconds but otherwise its 1x.
[HTC Rezound] supermiah:
i am on the 1.7 img
[HTC Rezound] mjh68:
Just so you know and not saying this is the case, but people are reporting Verizon outages in various parts of the country so your data issues may not be related to the rom.
[HTC Rezound] danutzz:
Verizon IS having network issues... It has been up and down, and only getting 3g right now
[HTC Rezound] eagle17:
I didn't see this posted but I am unable to get corp email to work.. (exchange activesync). when I try to configure it at the point it tries out the settings it force closes.

Also as others post I get the force close on the gallery app when opening some (many) of the older pics

have not tried with my sim yet so not sure of any issues with phone or data yet (wifi works great)

I know that some of these issues were present in the other de-sensed roms.. not sure if you can talk to newtoroot or scrolser....

thanks,

John.
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
Since I flashed this ROM, I've been getting a lot of weird audio issues, specially hearing constant white noise when my headphones are plugged in. Even if I reboot in recovery or in the bootloader I'll hear it... I plug the headphones in and I hear loud white noise on the left channel.
[HTC Rezound] FTL_Ian:
Apparently all the other sensless roms suffer the same problem. It's too bad - I really liked not having Sense. Hope this one gets remedied. It's a dealbreaker, unfortunately.
[HTC Rezound] wildfirewolf:
There is a workaround I made if you have Tasker. Also, apparently, Llama is able to do this as well. Here are the instructions for Tasker: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22658972&postcount=556