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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Wizard220:
Sprint could have fooled me on that one. ICS yea when pigs fly. If we haven't gotten ICS by now then it ain't coming for a good long while.

I just know this, Sprint has treated the E4GT as a orphaned step child. We have EL29 GB yet what do I see for the "other" providers, ICS and now JB has been dropped.

Not trying to pick a fight but Sprint needs to make some noise, Sprint needs to let us know WTF is really going on. Look no further than Sprints own forums, question after question is being ignored about this and other issues. Sprint needs to get off that cash in the bank crap and actualy support its customers.

As Wizard Knight has already stated, he is going to ATT. Me I have already started some lookups on other providers, plans, customer experence(s) and so on. Sprint has the worse data rates yet we have to pay that extra 10 bucks a month for, for what, you will never use the bandwidth.

Sorry for my rant but it has come time that someone said what needed to be said. Sprint sucks in more ways than one. I am looking for other options.

What makes this all so so bad is that T Mobil even beat Sprint to having ICS for their S2 variant. And that says that Sprint just dont give a S***, Now that is sad............
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tgruendler:
Cool Story Bro? Yeah, everybody knows this. Not trying to troll but really? This is not a Sprint Service Complaint board, this is a board about software/hardware development for phones.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DCRocks:
The original Epic was the same way, yet now it has been officially accepted into the CM chain, has fully functional CM9, and is looking forward to CM10, and most of that happened AFTER the release of the Epic Touch.

I was not surprised when the ET4G didnt get ICS before the release of the SGS3, but now that the SGS3 is out, I feel the ET4G should get the update sooner rather than later, at least I hope so.

Dont give up hope quite yet
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] animal7296:
So go to ATT or T-Mobile. What is stopping you? I for one have no problem with sprint. My data works well enough to use. My bill is less than it would be on ANY other carrier.

That is the beauty of living in the U.S.A. The freedom to do whatever you want. There is no-one saying you have to stay. In fact if you jump ship tyhat means one less person using the data in your area so then someone else can get that much more bandwidth. I am sure that they would appreciate it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] searcher61:
Which update? I don't remember getting one?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
It's rolling out now. Started yesterday and supposed to finish within 4 days.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] searcher61:
Just searched on it. Thanks...they say you can restore the original functionality by installing the old search... I am prepared for the update. I have the old file now...thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ablinjin:
Awesome. So the NOTE and the SKYROCKET have official ICS now. We are officially the last?

I hope my prediction about friday the 13th comes true.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Welcome, I'm waiting to see what PH does with the new update and Blazer now that he actually has the phone to work on.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
I believe so. So Samsung better make this the holy grail of all updates to our phone...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
cob, this is not directed specifically at you, you just happen to be the last person to mention it.

I don't know how many times this has to be said, but...

Guys, look at what is going on around you. See all of those phones with ICS? See that last FF18 rdf? See that FF18 leak with all the changes Sprint requested? Samsung is done with ICS for our phone until a patch update.

Now, if Sprint opts not to release the update for the phone, or gets with Samsung and decides that they need to wait until the first patch update to release ICS for this phone, that's another story.

You have to keep in mind that this variant of the GS2 is unlike any other. It is a beast compared to the rest.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
I do agree with you, I believe that our version of the Galaxy S2 is far the best I've seen. Just like Korea got their special version of the S3. "Hopefully" Samsung has one final build ready for the S2, or at least a few and last minute bug fixes of FF18 :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] meeok2:
Jellybean source has dropped!! http://www.zdnet.com/google-open-so...-4-1-for-third-party-modification-7000000570/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vandizzam:
God damn you monkeys all the way to hell!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
What is the update your talking about?

On the 6th when I got the sgs3, it already had an update available so i installed it.

I wonder if I'm running it because I haven't seen another update.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
Ahh ok I see
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] abegoods:
Isn't the Skyrocket almost identical to our phone, but with a slightly faster processor at 1.5ghz? And they got their ota. JS.

Sent from my Blue Kuban powered E4GT.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] brooksyx:
Skyrocket has a different CPU I believe to accommodate for the late modem. So I think its built on a completely different hardware platform and is not very similar.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dec3ption:
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...andwich-week?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
Hopefully that turns out to be real :)

Click here for custom mods for your E4GT
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yellowman82:
Finally some news :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fatboypup:
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-samsung-epic-4g-touch-appears-poised-ice-cream-sandwich-week ZOMG its ........ oh FF18
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Aganar:
Yay for an improved cm9 kernel!

Ota is good too.

Sent from my CM9 Epic 4G Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jdmtsx:
YES 2 more days! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yellowman82:
Can't wait lol now is when I'm really excited :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yellowman82:
Hopefully kernel source drops on Friday lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
Glad you guys are finally getting the official update. I gave up a little while ago on sprints network and just couldn't take it anymore. Been following this thread for a long time and its nice to see some semi official info here and on some other channels.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mjs2011:
Hopefully this means source drops as well considering we've had FF18 for 3 weeks now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
Same here. Glad to see it's finally here. I went back to the iPhone 4S (still on Sprint) a couple months ago. Enjoy the update, even though you guys already have the leak. :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
Who was it that said that we will get it on July 12th even before this article?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SouthPhilly:
So after the update drops... Who's going to be the first to try out a factory reset???

I'll stick with my CM9 setup... TouchWiz and bloat free!!!

Don't feel the need to go backwards, but this is good news for us.... Hopefully.

Sent From My Galaxy10.1 Class Starship....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
If you put the apk back from LF9 it reactivates search all. Rooted users shouldn't avoid the update over that with how easy it is to fix.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
The news I said about by the third week a majority of the E4GT's will have the ICS update was true.....I said I did have my source...some of you guys doubted me :p

+1 for team Cob! :D

Now to talk about that Jelly Bean update for our phone..... ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
So it was you! Someone find that post!! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dz1:
someone pinch me!!!!

since its ff18 do you think its the same available already here or do you think its been improved just same name?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Big Boy Laroux:
TrayLunch said a while back that Sprint Support told him July 12.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
Found it!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
^^^ This right here :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
So they are releasing FF18, there will definitely be another version to follow. Its too bad they didn't just fix the problems. Oh well that means source should be available in several weeks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Big Boy Laroux:
Above was posted on June 27.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
That would be me. Sprint Tech Support gave me accurate info after all.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mjs2011:
So how does this work anyway? Will we get a notification from Sprint? Do we update through the "About Phone - Check for Updates"? Never done an OTA before, lol!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Big Boy Laroux:
No offense meant, cob, but "Near the third week of July"? What does that mean? If it happens in the 2nd or 4th week, does that count? Cause July 12 is the second week of July.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] probowler2009:
Ok so i have sfhub's one click root with ff18 so do i take the OTA update and lose root? or will there be an update for this after the OTA so I can keep root? Or should I just flash a custom ROM on this thing. Any advice is much appreciated.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
You'll receive a push notification that an update is available for your device. From there you can click on the notification which will take you to the "Check for Updates" area where it will download and install. Checking before the notification won't trigger anything.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SouthPhilly:
Not to stir the pot but... Wasn't FF18 the build that introduced the eMMc brick bug???

Still sticking with my CM9 setup...

Sent From My Galaxy10.1 Class Starship....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
No.... It's been present since the very first ics builds.

Click here for custom mods for your E4GT
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
No it wasn't. It happened a while before that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] probowler2009:
Oh and 1 more thing if I do goto a custom Rom, which one is the best? I am seeing alot of CM9 and Blu Kuban on here so just curious to which one. Any others that you guys recommend would be appreciated.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
I'd recommend Blu Kuban. Once source is out rujelus will be able to do even more and will continue to provide updates for the rom. It has a rom updater so it's even easier to flash mods and receive updates :)

Click here for custom mods for your E4GT
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
No offense either but you should have read my post more clearly. I said "by the third week of july a majority of our epic 4g touch's SHOULD HAVE ICS." I never said a specific date when the rollout would have begun :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Big Boy Laroux:
ha ha, gotcha. 7/12-7/20 does indeed cover the 3rd week of July. Nice work.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
No offense, but I did.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
No offense but I gave an earlier estimate than you :) It's no competition. But I gave a near rollout date, just when Sprint reps were talking about when releasing it, they did give me a near estimate of the 3rd week of the rollout being done, and I did provide information a month before you did. You did give an exact date and I appreciate that :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dz1:
I'd like to know this too
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mjs2011:
And to confirm, we can be rooted right? Just make sure to Odin back to Stock EL29 rooted?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] probowler2009:
Ok Thank you I was thinking of that one also but just wondering to hold out just a bit longer for source to drop and it might be easier to flash to that since I am using sfhub's odin one click.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] donnyespo:
heres the article on ICS release

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-samsung-epic-4g-touch-appears-poised-ice-cream-sandwich-week
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bgask1717:
I also would like to know this. Currently on Blazer 4.1 EL29...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
If all goes well I can say the source should be ready to the masses on Friday and latest Saturday :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
You'll lose root, but yes, you can as long as you haven't uninstalled any of the stock apps. The update will fail if you have. I dunno about frozen apps. I would defrost all just to be safe.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris-allen:
i have a question.. im not a noob.. just a flasher... one thing i dont know is how to dev roms... my question is how will the custom roms that we all are flashing now all improve with the sorce? what kinda things can be improved? overclocking? more customizing? this is what i realy understand..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DirkBelig:
I'm running ODIN EL29 rooted and haven't removed anything, so as I'm understanding you, I could take the OTA, BUT will lose root. Shouldn't we (people like me) just wait for sfhub to whip up his patented rooted-stock One-Clicks so we can do the same as we did with EL29? Thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
I'm looking for it now but I thought I mentioned this date a while ago as it seemed timed just right to give 2 weeks for OTA and then proudly take a victory lap for getting 4.0.4 out to us on the Q2 result call (as a nice way to top off things like GS3 sales numbers). I somehow doubt that was by coincidence.

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Why not just stay with FF18 one-click as is? No need to reinvent the wheel and you'll still be official. (Or did I miss something here?)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
One big thing will be a lot more kernel development which will give us better battery life, stable under/overclocking, safer kernels, etc. and will also help out with the actual roms too.

Click here for custom mods for your E4GT
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
It's already there. It's labeled FF18, but yeah, if you wanna wait until OTA is released to confirm the build number, there's nothing wrong with that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Probably has a few bug fixes, I mean it would be a disgrace to both Samsung and Sprint releasing an update that would brick your phone :/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Source is having the recipe instead of having the finished dish there in front of you and trying to figure out proper measurements and exactly what herbs and spices. With source, all of the bugs (like task manager gap, etc) can be focused on and fixed by our devs instead of waiting for Google and Samsung to fix them. It's like seeing the mistake of a half tablespoon of salt that was supposed to be a half teaspoon printed out instead of having to taste it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris-allen:
personaly.. im going to wait for the smart ones ( devs ) to start modifying and rereleasing thier custom roms befor ill accept the push for the OTA!.. :+)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SkuzFoz:
Just a few hours after I give up on TouchWiz and finally flash ICS...

Oh well, I'm moving to the Galaxy Nexus soon anyways. Contracts are financially ridiculous.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Uh... FF18=FF18. No amount of time is going to make patches appear when Samsung was done with it. And as for the eMMC lockup, let's check source and see whether or not it's still there. I'm not from MO but in this case might as well be - won't trust it in either case until it's known for sure.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
LOL Whoa boy, don't let a near success go to your head. If you think source is going to drop on Friday or Saturday you're really reaching. It would be nice if this were true, and I'll be happy to eat crow if it turns out to be, but it's already been stated that other roll outs that took place in the past weeks still haven't had source drop.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

As garwynn said, FF18=FF18. More bug fixes require more development from Samsung which require more .rdfs. Since the update to 4.0.4 hasn't been bricking the other variants and devices it's been released to, I think it's safe to say that they've got the emmc bug covered. Then again, I'm not familiar enough with the specs of the other phones to know if they have the same mmc chip. I'll defer to garwynn on that. The man is a genius.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
It's weird, you would think there would be an official announcement from Sprint if it's just two days away. Oh well, here's hoping. *starts the jeopardy music*
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
I'm starting to think that Sprint's PR department is failing them tremendously, once again.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DirkBelig:
That's what I was wondering; whether anything new was done beyond what was in the leaked FF18. If it's going to be the same old thing, then I guess I'll just Titanium and try the No_Data load.

Here's one question I've been unclear about: How best to do a nandroid of EL29? (Or just say screw it and use the EL29 One-Click like I did when some ad blocker app had my phone rebooting and my efforts to fix it with....huh, I can't recall what it's called - it was the thing that allowed you to download different ROMS; it worked with my OG EVO, but was death to the E4GT - and I was able to dig myself out with the One-Click.) I messed with CM7 a little with my EVO and was good with nandroids and recoveries, but other than using sfhub's rooted EL29, I've been adverse to jacking with the Epic as much. I just want FF18 rooted for the handful of apps like Titanium that need it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
I am and I'll say it - Show Me!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
The easiest way to do this is to use sfhub's Auto Root Package to install the EL29 Kernel+CWM. Once that's done, you'll turn off your phone. Hold vol+ and the power button to boot into recovery. From there you'll see the backup and restore option.

These are all good questions by you and chris-allen, but they're a bit off topic. May I suggest asking them in McLeary's in the future? It's what the place is for. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I think you're spot on with this observation.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Thanks for the compliment but I would gladly say the same of many others here. I just happened to know enough to dig into the source and get the right combinations of right questions at right time to right person... and even then a lot of those questions came from people smarter than me such as sfhub, connexion2005 and Entropy512. The rest I'm still learning just as much as anyone else here on XDA.

Hopefully now that the wifey is happy on her phone I can convince her to let me finish setting up my VirtualBox for compiling... then I really can dig into this even more! You'll know when I start prodding around for a dev phone...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Go ahead tell me the 100% actual source you have to say such a thing. Just look at the EL29 source, which I believe was released quite early.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DirkBelig:
Thanks and sorry for the OT. After the hundreds of pages of time-killing chit-chat and fake alerts about "FM32" being posted, I didn't think my questions were that out of bounds. I'll see if I can find the other thread. Thanks again.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Yeah, after we hit 10,000 I promised Jay we'd stop polluting this thread with our off-topicness/bad behavior and take it there, LOL. Allow me to help http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1761902
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
When going to FF18 I would honestly suggest doing a clean build; it certainly won't hurt you in doing so.

You're talking about ROM Manager and yes, it is a no-no for the E4GT. But you can still use CWM within GB and not have problems. ICS seems to be OK on FF18 but I'll err towards caution and suggest don't format/wipe from ICS CWM until we verify the lockup trigger wasn't set in the source.

Honestly? Happy running stock for now. Once we get the source and we verify FF18 is safe or not, I'll be happy to try some new things out. If it isn't safe I'm sure we'll see a FF18 recompile and made safe in short order; if it is then we're all the better and I know I have a new safe build to go back to.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
lol Someone is full of himself all the sudden

Like I said, I think it's a reach (I don't have to provide source for that because it's my own opinion lol) but will happily eat crow if I'm wrong because it's a win win either way.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Umm, the several devices on the Samsung open source website that have ICS, but no source for ICS listed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Hate to be a downer but Verizon rezound owners saw a screen like this a couple months ago and thought they were getting ics and never did. Hope I'm wrong but until we hear official from Sprint.....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
: points finger : DOWNER!

EDIT: ...and double poster :mumble grumble:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
To the pub w you sir!! :p:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Tried getting rid off that other post but couldn't figure it out lol. Sorry but it is just a computer screen and I remember what all those rezound guys went through on HTCs Facebook from having the 3d previously. They weren't very happy when the day came let me tell u. But I said the same thing to them...its picture.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
I am just making an assumption. Not a real fact, like I said, my opinion. If you don't like it, move it along and leave it be :D I mean that's what I am guessing :p

Not at all, go ahead disagree with me. I mean whatever makes you happy. But those who do believe me should happily believe what they want. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
It doesn't matter what the ota is, when it comes out, etc.

What matters is when source will drop for the devs to work the voodoo that they do, you guessed it, soooo well...

:edit: Isn't that why we are here on XDA to begin with?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
No what you stated wasn't fact belief or opinion. What you did was ask someone to point to a source where devices have ICS but source had not been released. That's what happened. You don't have to like it, and you are welcome to move on if you don't. :D

I'll even guide you a little further. Here's my 100% source.

http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=sph-d710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ravaged Pheonix:
I think we are all getting a little touchy in here. Better calm down before Jay and Papa come in and start cracking skulls.

Blu Kuban

Its what all the cool kids are using.

Noob trolled the troll that tried to troll the Noob.

~~~coal686~~~
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
If I remember right I did, but who knows since it's your opinion I have the right to believe it (which is slim to none), but hey, if you believe your ideologies with a source being released later then by god believe in that! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
It's been a helluva day at work and I have a ripping headache, having my skull cracked might actually be an improvement. lol

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Your posts always entertain. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Why thank you, that made me blush *^-^*

But not to get off topic, hopefully that source is release sooner, rather than later. I would love to see a great CM9 RC with decent battery life :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Breakfast Club reference?? :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ravaged Pheonix:
Not intentionally, but I'll give it to you. Not quite as worried about Jay, but I don't wanna get Papa's horns.

Blu Kuban

Its what all the cool kids are using.

Noob trolled the troll that tried to troll the Noob.

~~~coal686~~~
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Agreed. Source drop yet??
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Again, your question was not one of belief or ideology. Your question was one of source for a statement that not all updates get source as soon as they are released, and again I will point you here http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=sph-d710 to look at all the phones that have been updated in the past few weeks that still have not had source released.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Like I said before TrayLunch, believe in what best suits you. No one is taking away that right of the 1st amendment :P Just let it go and wait until the actual source comes out, if you're right I'll happily eat crow! XD
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ebuc:
i called july 12 lmfao.