yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingdazy:
I would be surprised if they weren't doing some small amounts of "unofficial" testing with it at least.

The OS bug fix would be a good business move on their part, increase batt life boasting greatly.

Bah! :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Specialksg1:
I think they would basically have to start the testing process over at that point. I'd expect a release followed by a patch a month or two later.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Is AOS a real or imaginary "reporting" problem.

On EG30 with EK02 modem and EL26 kernel, I currently have 78% battery after 62hrs with CDMA radio turned ON. AOS was at 50% and there was very little usage since I happened to be working on an old LG Optimus S platform and didn't use the E4GT that much.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
some GPS data isn't cleared between factory and cache wipes so going to GPS to get a lock does make some sense.. and I'm assuming the drivers on gb are just more mature for our device than ics based ones.. but Ilboth your points are valid and strange!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingdazy:
honestly, i don't actually know. basing my statement, admittedly, on rumors and "generally accepted" statements re: batt life and 4.0.4. after some research of my own, it would seem the answer is perhaps more hazy than I thought.

my personal experience with the "bug"? only occurred once in a while. usually on a new flash. but them would disappear after a few days... so? idk.

but i look forward to your own opinions on this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chrisnosleep:
When you have the GPS issue, have you tried launching the "GPS Status"program and then Navigation or Maps or whatever? Worked for me...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reddragon72:
I think a typo maybe....you would be hard pressed to get that even with an extended battery...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sandwich11:
Weather Widget and Battery Life

I noticed 2 things after flashing FD05.

1. My battery life went down the toilet.

2. The TW weather widget is 4x3 when using the stock ICS launcher, and it looks like crap.

Anyone else know how to fix up battery life and get the TW wether widget back to 4x2?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
You are right, it was a typo, I meant 64hrs :)

As I stated I was using the phone very lightly but the CDMA radio was on. This is the first time I have used the phone so little for so long since I happened to be working on a rooting package for the LG Optimus S phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
You barely used your phone lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
That is what I stated. I was working on a rooting package for the LG Optimus S.

My point is questioning whether the high AOS percentage was a real or imaginary "reporting" problem. My AOS was at 50% but still the phone battery life was decent. If high AOS was really draining the battery life should be affected even if the phone wasn't being actively used because the AOS percentage on my phone is high.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Gotcha, at least you solved that mystery
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Still beyond what ive gotten on ANY build or rom for just sitting lol. I mean maybe a stock phone nothing installed or configured. But on the days ive had off that ive slept through the phone still only managed 21 hours. But thats with all my apps installed and configured as they would be if i was using the phone normally.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
On my old E4GT, I use to get 36 hours when I first bought it. Then I could barely get 8 hours by the time I traded it. Then again, I'm probably on my phone more than anyone else I've known
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Yeah I expect this battery to be cooked by the end of the year. I usually get 8 to 12 hours. But for example the last time I had to manually sync sfhubs files I had 2 hours of screen on time and with most of it being remoted into the server tearing up my 4G connection phone hit 4% after 6.5 hours. I believe that was FD02.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reddragon72:
so I wonder if Sammy will pay you to setup a unit to show off the battery life LOL

The best I have gotten is on the AOSP ROM from tjohnsonjr at 1D 10H with 2H 32H screen on time. check the thread over there for the screen shots.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Has anyone gotten a peek at the FD10 changelog? For example, were any of the bugs reported by KC squashed in this release?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Yeah, and can Calk chime in on if notification bug is gone so we'll know whether there will be a leak or not. Thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
Check out the the LOS on FD05. Wow. Airplane mode and back fixed it though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
He will and does. But asking them to do your bidding is a little....

He already commented on FD05 not fixing it before it was released and he has no plans on making roms (custom?) until it is fixed. So I am pretty sure you will hear about it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dchibro:
Call me crazy, but I think "fixing" the AOS bug could actually be a bad thing, because I don't believe it's fixed in 4.0.4, rather it's hidden.

I'm of the opinion that higher than expected AOS under normal circumstances is really a battery usage reporting phenomenon rather than a problem. I believe Samsung's kernel lumps certain OS operations into the AOS category, making it appear higher than on other Android devices. However, an abnormally high AOS percentage can often indicate a hidden wakelock or rogue application problem, which is actually a good thing. Many times I've been able to use AOS to identify a problem on my phone.

My belief with 4.04 is that the same operations that were being reported in the AOS category simply aren't being reported there anymore, thus making it appear that something was "fixed". However, I have yet to see anyone reporting improved battery performance.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
After going from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 (CM9) my battery life has improved almost three times over what I was getting before.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Itchiee:
Release the Kraken.... And we'll test the **** out it. kthx
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
The Kraken been released. Now we need Perseus or Caulkin to slay the mythical Notification Bug.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
I went from 2 hrs screen time to four hours and some change on the jump from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 (CM9) Here's a screenshot of the "first" round after flashing..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
This is mine yesterday.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Aren't you on a test version of CM9 alpha 3 or something? I'm on alpha 2 and battery life is pretty bad.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
Yeah, but I was getting the same kind of battery life on Alpha 2. It's weird to me that some people are getting fantastic battery life and others are getting horrible battery life.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Itchiee:
Yes, which I just rebooted since I forgot to do the dance after an earlier phone call...

↑↑↓↓←→←→BA

Fix the Kraken!!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Which kernel and modem you on?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nitro_c4:
I get better battery than you! :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
FD05 kernel, FD02 modem

Show off! :p

Sent while hanging with that really hoopy frood Ford Prefect.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gpgorbosjr:
Nobody probably cares about my opinion but....

I don't care if the entire rom gets released, but could we keep the modems coming? lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Lol hey black rose is there any indication of alpha 3 being up soon?

Not asking any ETA people lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mimis_69:
Sad face :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Is the repacked FD05 kernel for CM9 freely available somewhere or is that part of your test build? I'm on FD02 kernel that darch posted in the CM9 dev thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
Alpha 3 will likely be out sooner than later, but I don't really have a timeline or ETA.

I don't think the FD05 repack is public yet, but it should come baked into A3.

Sent while hanging with that really hoopy frood Ford Prefect.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Sweet thanks for the info. Steady has a fc05 repack...I think
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
*crickets*

Awfully quite around here... Calm before the storm? FD10 leak? CM9 Alpha 3? Is anybody going to come out and play tonight?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I doubt it.

Sent from Team KC's founding member HTC Evo 4G LTE.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] killakarl:
Hey kc don't you have a note?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tewlman252:
I'm just hopin they release a kernel source pretty soon so we start over clocking and tweaking these things our liking.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
It is true, nothing as interesting has shown up! Hmmm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Calkulin:
From what I was told is that it's still there in FD10, so on to the next build I guess......
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
It sounds like they're not making much process on these builds.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
They are obviously intentionally leaving the bug present...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
Reveal your secrets!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Seriously, what gives? Makes no sense. Why keep pushing builds if nothing is noticeably different. I suppose it could be subtle **** I guess.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
Decoy builds for the public as they work on the real builds in a closed people circle?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] krisI0N:
maybe they're just trying to make us feel like they're going somewhere so we don't *****? lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Bah, I don't believe in that conspiracy bullcrap. Life is so much simpler than people give it credit for.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
I have a feeling that the bug is left to fix for the the last leak -___-
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
thy could be fixing the code but leaving it commented out or not committed. and when they fix all the listed bugs by can uncomment or commit the working code and have a final build with all bugs fixed while still leaving each pre final leak still buggy.

I coded for 15 years and this wouldn't be unheard of in one fashion or another.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
CM9 alpha 3 fd05 modem fd02 kernal
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
Test build of CM9, FD05 kernel, FD02 modem
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Do you have sell your soul to get in on these secret test builds of CM9? :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] GambitShade:
I have been looking around and can't find it in the forms.

Is the freezing problem when playing a MMO game online still in ICS?

Games like The Infinite Black, The World of Magic, Pocket Legend, and Star Legend.

Thank you
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tech7:
Hey how do u makes look blue?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackroseMD1:
Yeah, you do actually, to darchstar. I think he resells them on the black market. ;)

Sent while hanging with that really hoopy frood Ford Prefect.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] brooksyx:
Got be getting close to an official OTA now. So many leaks, how long does it take to test. But I can see them waiting until after the nexus hits. Will it be the first official ICS device on sprint?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yglaotu:
I will not go back to FDXX until the message notification bug been fixed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
I'll be on EL29 until source is out most likely lmao
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Hey, thanks a lot Calk for the update. I won't waste time getting the rom and dropping it.

And, I do not have a Note. I just new for a fact it was coming. The codename for it at Sprint was something like "gaudy". I think Sprint will be dropping a lot of phones over a 6 week period starting in 3 weeks. So, we might all be seeing each other in other forums soon. I might be reaching out to Joey Krim or Calk(if he doesn't jump ship) to see what they get before i buy another phone. They are two great dedicated devs.

I know of about 6 phones heading to sprint. I have already mentioned them. They are all outstanding phone for one reason or another. LG(price), GN(updates),HTC(capabilities), Note(size does matter), and a few other.

I might hold out for the S3 since we wont see it until the end of the 2nd quarter or the 3rd. My wife might get the note as a gift since she reads books all the time from her phone already. I just hope it can be a mothers day gift.

Sent from Team KC's founding member HTC Evo 4G LTE.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] killakarl:
Is it lte and what processor is in it?

Mind coming to the note thread I made and field some questions?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] brooksyx:
It will most likely be lte sprint isn't releasing any new wimax phones. So its either lte or 3g only.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] killakarl:
Then probably the s4. I was hoping exynos.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Will of fire:
Nice to see more leaks more progress.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
1.4 Exnos and yes, another leak would be nice.

Calk said that the problem is still there so we might be holding our flight pattern for a sec.

Sent from Team KC's founding member HTC Evo 4G LTE.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
It's heard of, especially in days of old - but nowadays I wouldn't DARE leave a bug even in test builds unless there was a good reason (such as the bug identified a potential operational issue that can't be resolved by programming alone.) I also get spoiled by having a test user base that gives great feedback and that I'm not doing overly complicated development right now.

My personal suspicion is that the leaks are several builds back from what Sammy/Sprint is actually working on. It really depends on who is doing the debugging though - based on Opt S experiences I don't think every bug will be squashed before OTA.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
can't remember the last time I used bug-free software. does it even exist?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
As it was taught even in my HS programming classes:

Every program has a bug - you just haven't found it yet.

Even "bug free" (meaning no calculation or I/O errors) may not truly be so because it may not consider every possible situation that the program may need to handle.

Or in another way: Humans are fallible, humans make programs. How can we expect programs to be infallible based on the first statement?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
"Hello World!" was bug free. It all goes downhill from there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
:D Thanks for the laugh. I still use that phrase sometimes when testing/debugging display problems. Either that or Test.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
I use to **** up the computers at Kmart like 18 years ago with this one.

10 print "0wn3d"

20 goto 10
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I just wanted to comment on the AOS issue. I have been using the Euroskank CM9 nightlies on my Nexus for a while now. They merged the 4.0.4 code and the AOS reports much lower but battery didn't get any better. I have used at least the last 20 builds with the same apps and settings. I dont think we will see any major upswing in battery from it. Like sfhub said, it reports high but battery doesn't drain much while idle. Edit no screenshot again. Sorry
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Different app. Let's see if this works
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kobridge:
It seems like we are on the same page. I tried to upload the images but failed two times today. Sometimes, uploading works but other times not. Might be mysql database or forum php engine issue.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
is that stock?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Its Venum Ice which is themed stock deodex FC15 with no undervolt or underclock. I am still using FC15 everything...edit..I did odex system apps with Odex Me to smooth it out a bit
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nibrwr:
Damn......
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
FC15 has been second only to EL13 for me as far as idle battery drain goes but definitely #1 on screen time (for me)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
you always have these incredible battery times!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I don't understand why really. I don't do anything special. It must be the inverted apps. The apps I use most such as XDA, Dropbox, and GTalk have to be inverted. I never mess with undervolt or underclock on this phone like I have to on my Nexus. On that phone I have to do both and use lazy or wheatley governor to get respectable battery. I should note that everything (dialer, contacts, etc) are all inverted on Ice
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
I also use inverted apps. but this aokp 31 is just horrible in battery life.

on another note every time I to install gtalk inverted it doesn't work. I tried the individual zip and the gapps inverted zip neither worked.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
AOKP has never been as good on the battery on my Nexus either. I always end back up on CM9 or the Euroskank CM9 for that very reason. I love the AOKP options though. Here's the inverted GTalk I use and that I gave to Venum for the ROM. I extracted the zip, pushed it and rebooted. Back your current one up just in case but it has worked for a few of my friends as well on this phone...edit..you can also flash it but it may take a couple of attempts for it to stick. Pushing worked on the first try for me. Check permissions

http://db.tt/STTRRQtq
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] donsh00tmesanta:
Damn that's good on the stock battery?

So what's this bug everyone talking about
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Its the Android OS that you see is 26% in my first screenshot its still unclear what triggers the high reading but it appears to be a reporting bug not something that actually effects battery..at least not substantially. Its around 5-7% in 4.0.4 but my idle drain is no better
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] donsh00tmesanta:
The same bug that's in GB too?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I guess you can say that..lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Beejis:
Sorry if this has been answered before (and also sounds stupid), but what exactly are inverted apps? What is the benefit of having an inverted app?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
With inverted apps, the screen is black and the text is white. Its the exact opposite of normal. It makes a big difference on any phone with a SAMOLED screen. Black is best on the battery so the larger surface area of black helps with screen on time
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Light text/black background

OLED uses less power with black backgrounds, so inverted apps are supposed to use less power if you are running those apps all the time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nibrwr:
John. Sent you a PM
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Just responded. Sorry about that
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MeWarning:
Is that written in qbasic?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingdazy:
So, I manage a nonprofit thrift store, and this funky thing came in...

Wtf is it? Is it useful? Can it be hacked? :)

Looks like a hotspot... Airave?

Sent from my calculator watch.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Looks like a WiMax mobile hotspot to me...

http://reviews.sprint.com/5611v2/24...otspot-by-sierra-wireless-reviews/reviews.htm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingdazy:
Thanks!

Ha! Those reviews are hilarious.

Sent from my calculator watch.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gershee:
yup. someone remembers. ha!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Anyone here want to learn an awesome trick???? Best google search trick for this thread! And for the future. Just don't go blasting it across the world or sprint might change how they do these rdf's.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stevetrooper:
Sure! Always like learning something new...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] swear0730:
I got a stupider question. Where do we find these inverted apps. What apps are available? Are they device specific? How about GB/ICS specific?

TIA
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
http://www.rujelus22.com/evo/m/downloads.php
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] swear0730:
Its a time portal. DON'T PLUG IT IN!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nitro_c4:
Here are some inverted Gapps

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/15092-invertedtotally-inverted-apps-4-5-gmail405-play-store3516/

I never use them though.

Edit: I just installed the MMS one and I love it! Going to try more now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] donsh00tmesanta:
The Android OS bug is in GB so I doubt it will be fixed
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Ok, nevermind. Looks like we are talking about inverted apps.

Seriously, why would anyone think this is the appropriate thread for this? Has anyone heard of the Q&A section? How about google...heard of that either?

Sent from Team KC's founding member HTC Evo 4G LTE.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] swear0730:
Remembers? I wrote my first basic program in 1976. Last time I worked in basic? 3 weeks ago (MS Access). Both used line numbers. 1976 because I had to and 3 weeks ago because error trapping was easier (only used 'em in problem areas). Next time? Who knows. Basic will never die...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Can we get back on topic to something even remotely close to the Epic and its updates?

Okay, before the thread got hijacked I mentioned a neat way to search google.

Try this. Search "site:device.sprintpcs.com" without the quotes. You can search that alone or add "samsung" or "sph-d710" or "kyocera" for that matter(all without the qoutes). When the search comes back you will have to hit the google page that omitted duplicates. Now you can see all the rdf's google polled in their search engine. You might also want to change the parameters to just search the last month or year.

What I found interesting in this was there was a rdf for the Epic Touch that posted May 17th(EE17) of last year(3 months before it launched) that has since been deleted but the url still appears. This search method might prove valuable for learning specs of devices that have yet to launch or learn about devices you hadnt even realized existed. Not all rdf's will appear. Only the ones google has polled show up. But, if you play with these parameters you might find some neat stuff.

Sent from Team KC's founding member HTC Evo 4G LTE.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
how did u hit 7 hours!?!?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1596836

Is that better?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ks2332:
I see what you and calk are doing here;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Hey Sfhub, do you do Bro-Hugs because I have one for you?

Sent from Team KC's founding member HTC Evo 4G LTE.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
Same here... Does this mean the notification bug is still there? Confused from the comment which Caulk made earlier. Appreciate some clarification. Thanks for the files sfhub!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mark.J.Linskiy:
I'm flashing it right now, looks like I'll find out soon enough. I have a feeling it'll probably still be there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Ya, Calk confirmed the bug is still there a few pages back. So, expect another rdf between tomorrow and next tuesday.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Regarding notifications, this is in the FAQ section:

c4) What about the notification bug?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
You.are.awesome!

Thank you :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
If you missed it Sfhub confirmed it too. It is right ^^^^^^^.

Sent from Team KC's founding member HTC Evo 4G LTE.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mark.J.Linskiy:
Yup, it's there. No surprise though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
Or just use cm9 and be done with it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
You used to be able to set up email alerts through Google, I don't know if you still can.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] donsh00tmesanta:
How's the new modem perform

Dang 7hrs on stock battery how
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
I wish we got changelogs uploaded as well
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sakujou:
I'm so confused, is FD10 or FD05 the latest? in the top part of the first post it says FD10, but in big bold red it says FD05?

And what version is launch? or is that unknown?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeremiah.rs:
FD10 is the latest.

The launch version is still unknown, and judging by the way this is going, we're probably about a month out from a proper final release.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
I'm interested in seeing how FD10 performs. I'm holding out for Alpha 3 of CM9 or the next Codename. :p I'm in no hurry though. I'm spoiled by these devs.