yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yellowman82:
Yea that's true too I do argue I do think and wonder but I keep it to myself instead of cluttering the forums with the same BS that bunch of us know about already. You know how many folks reply about the damn email exchange and all the other bugs that are around? I know I've seen to many post about it you think that them posting about it will help when we already know which bugs are there I think not
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Healthy, passionate debates are good for the community and everyone should be encouraged to join in. It keeps us from getting stale or growing complacent. But there is a fine line between passionate debate and pointless arguing/whining that no longer serves a purpose. We straddle that line here often but overall I think we generally make good progress.

For those who find the leaks too buggy the best resolution really is to just stay on Gingerbread for now, wait for the OTA to push and then see if people who accepted it are still experiencing those bugs. If they are then continue on GB until a fix is pushed out. But as has been stated numerous times, there is no such thing as bug-free software so people who expect that are always going to be disappointed.

It just seems that simple to me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] zdragon:
What happens after OTA?

Hello

I've flashed my EVO 4G before but am fairly new to this phone. Been reading all of these threads. My questions is after the OTA is out and a rooted ROM is flashed, will it still be necessary to ODIN a GB kernel before changing ICS ROMs? hope that makes sense. thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SkuzFoz:
Fixed that for ya.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
If you are on one of the leaked stock roms then I believe you don't need to go back to GB.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
So I'm on stock rooted ff11. Will I receive ota on this or do u need to be on stock el29?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jmejiaa:
“Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.” –Brian Kernighan
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
If you go to sfhub's thread -

[ODIN][TAR] SPH-D710.FF11_CL663858 (FF11 Modem/Kernel/ROM - Full Restore - Rooted)

and I quote

So you should be fine.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rgregg504:
To receive any ota you must always be on an official ROM this is a leak therefore it is not official. Not that I'm a Dev or even post a whole lot but man that question gets asked alot
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wraith404:
No, you need to be on stock EL29 (rooted OK). However, if the OTA is FF11, you are technically already there and rooted. Going back to EL29 an taking the OTA to FF11 would only result in more steps taking you to the same destination, and losing root in the process. At which point you would probably want to go back and odin the the stock rooted FF11 bringing you full circle. Now, if you just like watching OTAs install, then go for it. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Guess we'll no for sure once it drops.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Excellent quote - had never heard it before. But also VERY true.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] longhorn65:
Kernigan is King! Writing in C, you can write code that you cannot interpret 2 days after you wrote it! 20+ year code slinger...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rocket321:
The last two OTA updates for the O.G. Epic were quickly followed with 2nd minor OTA updates a couple weeks later to fix small outstanding bugs. I would not be surprised to see this type of thing happen for E4gT as well.

I'm just happy we are getting leaks for almost every test build - gives us something to do while waiting for the OTA or for the AOSP roms to get into beta status.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SkuzFoz:
Definitely. The best way to iron out bugs is to give it to a hundred-thousand people and get thousands of years of testing done in just a few days. I really wish they would have a beta opt-in system in which normal users could get builds early and help out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rocket321:
That would be awesome, I believe "test units" have a different hardware revision and they get the test releases OTA - I wish there was a way to mod that value in retail phones so they would get offered the test OTA's as well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
I'm guessing you're referring to the emmc bug. That is actually a really good question. It depends on if that's one of the things they have ironed out, and, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, that won't be verified until we have source. If I recall correctly, in FF02, sfhub suspected it had been addressed, but did not see a work around where he expected them to be. At the time, I don't think he had a copy yet, so this is more than likely outdated info and would like an answer myself.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Bottom line: We can't confirm until source drops and we see what's in mmc driver code. There's support based on T-Mobile source drop that they removed MMC_CAP_ERASE which means it won't use the new erase/wipe feature; but again, anything is speculation until source.

Please note this also doesn't fix all of the possible spots identified by sfhub - such as the update-binary. This is why he contacted devs and recommended to use the GB versions to avoid hitting the lockup. Just a little longer and hopefully there will be a lot more answers to this...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
If your kernel disables MMC_CAP_ERASE then everything *bundled with or using that kernel* is safe (including recovery and update-binary). However, sometimes with ROM installs you unwittingly get other "unsafe" kernels and then if you perform what you thought was a "safe" operation on a "safe" kernel, you end up doing it on an "unsafe" kernel and can have issues.

It is sometimes hard to tell from the UI in Recovery that your kernel changed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
I'll more than likely wait for some sort of zip being that I'm on el29 w/clockwork. Something to ponder.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
No need to wait for a .zip. Everything you need is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1705730. Magic 8 Ball says FF11 has a 99% chance of being OTA. Considering that there will be NO MORE RDFs, confirms it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
By magic 8 ball you mean Calkulin ? Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
No.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Don't get but hurt he said ff11 is it. I trust him the most.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tyknee:
I'm glad I saw your post. Up until now I thought this only happened to me.

Granted I do mostly scripts and simple web apps in VB/Powershell/PHP/etc...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
I trust "Magic 8 Ball" also Tray gave us a clear hint who is "M8B" already.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
I know. I'm just lazy. Seems like a lot of work flashing the Odin and the kernel repack with custom recovery then flashing the ff11 kernel and radio. At least that's how I last interpreted it, it being the procedure.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
No, it's much less painful than that. Download Odin OC No Data Wipe and Auto Root Package. Flash with Odin OC, then choose option D in Auto Root Package to add kernel with custom recovery. Odin OC is all inclusive except for the custom recovery.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Not butt hurt. Just answering your question.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Did I? I hope not. That would have been entirely unintentional. They want to stay anonymous for a reason.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Yes you did lol. Unintentional I believe. BTW I won't reveal the identity. Maybe I get it wrong, who ever know! so Don't worry! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Who is he!?!?!?!? Lawl jk
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
Literally went searching and searching and could not find a link that would initiate the download for the ff11 plus cwm auto root. The link in the link in the thread would not start a dl...oh well I'll just check the the package I have on my pc, it may be the ff11 kernel cwm pack
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iniz94:
I recall him hinting at the identity too
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
If these aren't working for you, I'll add a mirror that hopefully does.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
Thank you. Just went round and round in an endless cycle from thread to thread earlier within the app.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
That ODIN OneClick package would get you stock FF11 modem, kernel, and rooted ROM (only change to ROM is addition of root) in one flash.

From there, if you want CWM, just install it however you'd like auto root, mobile odin, odin, etc.

It would be trivial to include CWM in the ODIN OneClick, but it has a few side-effects which some folks do not like:

1) they depend on these packages being as close to stock as possible so they have a reliable baseline, adding cwm would change the kernel from stock

2) they depend on these packages being compatible with future OTAs, adding cwm would break compatibility with OTAs

3) they depend on these packages not triggering the yellow triangle nor increasing the ODIN flash count, adding CWM to the ODIN flash would trigger both these

Any one, all, or none of these might be important to you because you have alternate means around them (usb jig, triangle away, or don't care) but that is the reasoning why they are put together the way they are.

Basically you get stock + root by flashing the OneClick and that opens you up to whatever else you would like to install, whether just sticking with rooted stock, or installing CWM and custom ROMs.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
Yeah I don't use any roms I just like the security of nands. I don't and have never used init.d either so I didn't need that in the agat. Thanks I'll try to live without that secure feeling of not having a custom recovery for the first time.

I've had four epic touch's and restored the same el29 bu on 2, 3 and 4. It was very convenient.

I've got some purchased games that didn't work on my gnex and vice versa. I'm anxious to see what happens when I flash an ics no data.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Wizard Knight:
In this down time I just wanted to share this awesome app. You literally infect other people who have the app. Its stupid fun... I'm posting this in hopes of a potential carrier near me downloading it :)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.egondev.android.patientzero
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PortlandAmir:
Looks fun, installed it, and got someone infected with my disease within a minute! :D watching it spread in real time is fun lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
Anyone got the stock gallery and camera apk files available for upload please?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Pheno.menon:
Not compatible with my device ): on blu kuban ROM.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
Umm :confused: it's compatible for me on blu kuban...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
Since on FF11 I'm turning this bad boy upside down to find bugs, I just hit an interesting one. Involve several screen taps some folders and widgets will elaborate more when get home and connected to wifi to upload some screenshots. Stay tune.

Also there are several apps that force close from time to time. 15+ of them. Some locks too.

Edit: this FF11 is the .tar leaked by sextape stock untouched no root.

Report Bug #1:

To reproduce this bug you need to do this:

1. Select Stock ICS Launcher but not via Sprint ID do it the long way via Menu>Settings>Applications>All>TWLauncher Select it and Clear Defaults then tap home Check Default and Launcher (ICS)

2. Set home screen with one or two folder with several apps inside something Like this:

3.In left screen from home insert Active Aplication Widget:

4.Now go to the workspace that have the Active Aplication Widget tap it and go to RAM>Clear Memory and quick tap twice backkey you arrive at Main workspace now try to select any folder and watch what happens. :D any folder you try to open will open but off screen till you swipe to left or right. LOL

Also did you notice the 0 on the Active Application Widget on Stock launcher is always off this do not happen on TouchWiz Launcher.

Bug #2

If you are using ICS Stock launcher selected via long way as I mention above and then you want to change to TouchWiz for any reason but select Twiz via Sprint ID this time when you go back to Stock ICS Launcher but via Sprint ID too you will lose any settings on Home Screen you did previosly and will look something like this:

Weird right? Notice the folders are gone and wallpaper too and the foder that remains on dock its empty select it and will open then disappear like this:

Also notice the bad reception I have with FF11 modem NO signal at all this doesn't happen with Modems EK02, EL29 or FD26.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Is my launcher supposed to look looker third with only 4 icons at three bottom on stock rooted ff11?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
*look like this
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
I don't get what your trying to ask. Please re-elaborate the question.

Edit: Yes it suppose to look like that its TouchWiz Launcher. Why you ask?

If you are asking because of launcher on my screenshot I'm using the Stock ICS Launcher. you can select it opening Sprint ID app since you are on Stock and selecting My ID (ICS Stock Launcher) or Samsung (TouchWiz Launcher)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Calkulin:
This is exactly whats planned, FF11 is final and anymore bugs will be patched through another update
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Ok. I only ask cuz many ics home screens look like they have 5 launcher buttons at the bottom with the app drawer button in the middle.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
What I think would be best is to release FE26, because it has the least amount of bugs from the entire build process, then you can have a new team work on the bugs of Android 4.0.4 and later (after a couple of weeks) release it as an update to out phones.....just a suggestion :[
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
I got the gallery fixed, now I need the camera to shut up. Anyone have a silent camera apk, stock? I tried my darndest but it fc's.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
I'm guessing you mean FD26 since FE26 was never leaked? If that is the case, you can go to T-Mobile and get their variant. That is essentially their ICS release.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
Anyone seen a mod for FF11 to patch the stock hotspot for tethering yet?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
You could push the hacked hotspot from one of the custom roms. You'll obviously have to be rooted to do this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
Don't forget it took two ota's to get gb stable on this phone (ek02 and el29) with numerous leaks in between.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
With so many leaks and all of the uncertainty, I don't think anyone wanted to waste the effort when a new one could be out the next day. Now that things have settled down, I'm sure someone will developed one soon. I know I'm looking forward to it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rwilco12:
Fyi they've discovered that the hacked hotspot was causing reboots on 4G. Wifi tether is currently the recommended method.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Pheno.menon:
Must be because I can't stand running the phone at 240 dpi :|

Sent from my Blu Kuban'd Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
I've tried to run foxfi on ff02 and it won't run. It will not allow 4g and wifi to be on at the same time. I'm unrooted and never had this issue on gb. Anyone else seeing this or thoughts?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
I'm not running it at 240 either
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
Yeah foxfi doesnt work fully with ics. There are ff11 roms with hotspot hacked already apparently rebooting issues though. Or you can just run gb.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Admiral2145:
reboot

so just having the hacked hot spot causes the reboot? because I never use that I always use wifi tether, matter o fact I got 4g reboots while doing nothing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rwilco12:
That's what they are saying.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pbassjunk:
206 ftw. 1:1 pixel density with the physical screen
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
No word on any information regarding leaks? :o
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] twoeleven99:
if you need a guinea pig let me know
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imadroider:
i starting to believe you don't have a clue about sextape. This was a fun night, morning.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1501625
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Get in line. :)

And Sextape, you say whatever you want. I think we showed in a short time last night we support your work.

Speaking of which I need to update the OP.

I couldn't think of anything clever. Sent from my phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
haha classick! it was a fun night!! :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Anything new?

I couldn't think of anything clever. Sent from my phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
I don't donate anything until something has been given.

I know numerous occasions where people do not follow through.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
So, the first 4 leaks, are you saying you donated then? FB09,15,17, and 21.

I couldn't think of anything clever. Sent from my phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SuperSwagSauce:
Oh boy, KC behave. :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
I've donated to Caulkin. And what does that have to do with anything. Are you saying that people should be paid for something they don't even own?

If you really want to go there bring it. You are starting to shape up like a hero and bubby type. Demands donations for work that everyone else does for free.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Do you think anyone donated to me when I leaked ROMs for the Epic??? Hell no they didn't.

Did I ever even ask for a dime? Never in a million years. Did noobnl? Never.

These new wave of developers are trying to extort money from people when these things are supposed to outed for development purposes only. Not to make money. This makes me sick seeing things like that. And seeing websites like Samfirmware ask for money to release a leak. That's as low as you can go in the development world
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SuperSwagSauce:
Alright holmes chill out. I don't think he was trying to say it in a mean spirited way. He was just trying to make a point that you said you don't donate until you see a leak, and the individual in question has leaked reliably several times before.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Whosdaman:
Good I think I made my point. A lot of old school developers feel this way, and it's becoming a trend. Knock it off. I shouldn't be obligated to donate to anyone. There's thousands of Epic Touch members, why should I have to be the one that donates? I don't, and I don't need to be called out for it either. That's what I'm saying.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Hey Korey, welcome to America. It is called capitalism. And I have never demanded anything. You have though. You were the one 10 post back asking "why hasn't it been released yet"?

That is why I am harping on you. Yes, some people do things for free. But, I was always told not to expect anything for free and be gracious when it comes that way.

At work I pull out my wallet everyone we stop at a gas station for a pop. If they give it free I am grateful but I don't walk in and say, "Hey, can I get this pop free this time."

I am not ragging every Joe blow posting on here. But no one else is asking the developers why they can't get us stuff faster. I know not everyone has money for a donation to the source(because that is were shabby and Sextape said it was going). And the source has been more than helpful and they did say that if you liked the leaks donations would help keep the leaks coming.

The conversation is over. Back on topic.

I couldn't think of anything clever. Sent from my phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Just got the leak ;)

time to see what it's about >_>
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Specialksg1:
I just took a leak ... It was mostly about liquid waste removal ...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Beejis:
To me just asking why it hasn't leaked yet doesn't sound like he is bashing anyone for a free lunch. Sometimes text just doesn't come across correctly for everyone to understand the intent.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Maybe you're right.

I couldn't think of anything clever. Sent from my phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
He said that because

On the OG epic it was proven that tars dont reveal any info on the person that leaked it

but then again mr. Korey has to understand they come with instructions :p

and you cant bite the hand that feeds ya ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Beejis:
Understood and I definitely agree. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
It's basically just a waiting game now for the OTA and source. FF11 is the supposed final, so we likely won't see more leaks. They may tweak the sprint options a little more so the final release may not be that exact build number, but still it'll basically be FF11 if they do actually change it any more.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
So no more bug fixes? :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
We don't really know. They could very well patch a few things up before release but I'm not sure. This is all word of mouth as I don't have any sources or anything, but the people with the sources have said FF11 will be the final. I guess time will tell.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
Screenshot?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
I tried 206 a little bit ago.

240:

Quick 206 with 5x5 instead of 5x4:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I updated the OP. Tried to make it more current with rom updates. Happy Father's Day to all you dads.

I am playing the the Galaxy Nexus. It is a pretty fun phone. I still have one Epic Touch and one I am throwing on Ebay tonight. So, I will still be saying high.

You guys want to hear something funny. I bought a brand new NG off some guy who won it. I paid 300 for it. I had to buy my son a bday gift and on the way home I stopped by the Sprint Store to get a car charger replaced. When I was there I told him that it sucks that we have to wait so long to get new phones when we are on employee accounts and showed him the NG I just bought. He said,"Didn't you know, Sprint opened up the GN and Evo LTE to employees today?" Well, at least I still have my upgrades. Talk about Murphy's Law. Any ways, I got a deal on the GN and I don't want the EVO. So, I am either waiting for the S3(maybe), waiting for the next Nexus(more likely), or considering the LG phone(have you seen the bad a$$ specs, quad core krait with LTE). And you heard it here first, that LG phone with the awesome specs you have heard rumored about might be a Nexus phone. We will see. I am just connecting some obvious big dots.

http://www.slashgear.com/lg-rumored-to-make-next-nexus-device-26215506/

http://androidcommunity.com/google-exec-hints-android-5-0-jelly-bean-coming-this-fall-20120228/

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/14/lg-eclipse-headed-att-sprint-this-fall/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
The waiting game...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
(As the theme from Jepordys final round plays...)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
If Calk says ff11 will be final build, it will be final build
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Hopefully Sprint doesn't decide to be atupid and release the OTA update by the end of June :[

Or at least get the OTA file leaked early by a few days :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
A leaked OTA really wouldn't do anything for us... Source is what I want :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
What I want is a CM9 stable build from the source. With close to.all the bugs fixed and better battery life :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
You haven't tried RC0 nightly builds by shabby? Its built from source and battery life has improved. I get 12 hrs up with 3 hr and 20 mins screen time
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
I think cob11341 meant official source released by Samsung.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RichTJ99:
I am using the FE22 modem & am finding that the reception is horrible. Is the new modem better or worse than the current stock el26 or el29 gb modem?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] funeralplanner:
FF02 is working out good for me, but I just downloaded FF11 to try.