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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Was the initial gingerbread release for this phone ready for prime time? Nope. LOS all over the place. Will the initial ICS release for this phone be bug free? Nope.

Stay on your gingerbread, then. But for God's sake stop whining about how gingerbread is so much better than these leaks. It isn't. It will be a little bit of a trade off with these initial official releases (i.e lose better battery life but gain cool OS tweaks), but it will get progressively better with each release. Just as gingerbread did.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Misinformation is my issue with most of these posts. Just because you tried one leaked build and it had issues doesn't mean they all do.

Most of us have tried enough of the stock leaks and custom ROMs to actually give an informed opinion.

It's like people who don't vote but want to gripe about the government. If you aren't going to get involved, get educated, try out a few samples (for longer than 10 minutes or a single day for gods sakes) then please stop preaching about how ICS isn't better than GB.

I've said many times, if you like GB better then by all means, stay on it but keep in mind your words here could affect the decisions of others (right or wrong). There are people out there who might want to try ICS, who come to these forums for information before making a decision so please stop with the gloom and doom posts about ALL the bad bugs it contains. In truth there are only a few minor issues and they can be worked around.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Not sure if your saying that because you saw it posted (think sfhub posted it i believe).

But and i just checked the RDF's versus the leaks. FC24 to FD02 was (March has 31 days) was what 8 days the 25th to the 1st?

So 8 days would be the previous longest time between RDF's during these ICS leaks unless they pulled an RDF because I just checked them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
Hear, hear! GB nostalgia thread is in the archives for those who want a stroll thru memory lane.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] limeaid:
This thread is for ppl to discuss the ics leaks. That goes both ways... Positive and negative. I'm excited about ics coming out, but I'm not satisfied with where it is right now. Like I said before, you act like I'm insulting your family when I say that.

Clearly what I (along with others) are saying isn't very popular with some of you, but that doesn't make it wrong.

I'm willing to bet there are many ppl on the forum who appreciate this perspective because they are trying to decide whether or not to take the plunge on these leaks.

The people that are reporting the issues are saving these ppl some time and making their decision easier.

If you can't understand this, ten I don't know what to tell you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
This:

Is the perfect response to this:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] limeaid:
No it isn't because it's biased. It only represents one side.

I represent both.

I'm done arguing. You're not worth it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Its also not worth this thread being closed Again and thats at everyone not you. If this continues you can garuntee this thread is done, and done for this time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Umm it isn't biased because, you see, I've spent considerable time on both GB and ICS, therefore I speak from an informed position and have myself gone back to GB when (in early leaks) I did find ICS lacking (and it's supported by my many posts on XDA) but with each new leak, I tried again because I didn't want to give up and assume that all new leaks had the same issues.

Biased is barely trying ICS but branding it as lacking in areas where others have reported it excels based on actual experience, not assumptions.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Children calm down. You guys are going to get this locked up for like the 4th time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Calm is my middle name :)

Now I'm ready for either a new rdf or an official OTA, please and thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
So, rumor has it that we might see another rdf next week on the 7th. I guess we will just wait and see. Oh, and I want to give a shout out to....Thanks for the heads up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
Great news, looks like we are in the final leg now. Still enjoying FD26 though in the meantime. For those still complaining go check out the ATT Galaxy S2 forum for a few minutes, they don't seem to be getting anything like these regular leaks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
hahaha is it Calk?! Jk :P

Yes time to get ics so kernal will improve battery life.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I am waiting for the person to come in and ask if we will get NFC and LTE support with one of these leaks. Seems like people are getting smarter lately.

On that note, I wonder if we will see this new touchwiz in future updates or if it can be ported. Obviously we won't be able to beam but the voice and motion software might be fun to try.

And no, it wasn't Calk.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
What?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
In fixing my Wi-Fi issues I have found it causes the phone to reboot at random. The config is solid as it connects... a nuisance only at the moment, nothing more.

Other than this FD26 is doing a great job.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mad5870:
I was wondering the same thing. do you think there is a chance that after the s3 comes out that we may get another update? or maybe they are waiting for the s3 to come out to give us a little more than we have. I know none of the leaks are looking that way but why would Samsung put something in a test build knowing that there are leakers out there, (Thank you leakers, we all love and appreciate what you do) without announcing said product or software? Idk maybe i'm just a little optimistic
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] steddora:
It may have been said, but the wifi does seem to have a problem. I have the option selected to where the wifi shuts of during sleep mode. Every now and again on FD26 it will restart the wifi and not see any network. Most off the time it detects my router and connects almost instantly. However, randomly it will not connect. When I check to find a wifi connection it sees none. However there are two in my house? If I turn the wifi on and of again it seems to fix the issues, however it is there.

I'm using wireless n 150 with spk2 or whatever lol. Been a long time since i messed with it. Phone runs the standard ICS launcher and I'm running sfhub's one click for FD26. Not a major issue, but there none the less!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
I've heard this rumor too. So we will patiently wait and see. We may not see an rdf until the 9th possibly but lets hope for the 7th.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Wizard Knight:
I personally would rather it take a little longer so there isn't a release, an "oops sorry", then another release
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
ICS is nice and all but feels kind of heavy and not as optimized. Oh well still good
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] grncherry:
voice command

I find it amazing that after all these leaks voice command still doesn't work. When the screen is off there is no communication between a Bluetooth headset and the voice command app,incoming calls are received fine but outgoing calls can't be made without physically turning on the screen. I have seen several post stating that it works but I don't think the posters verified the hands-free function.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
If you aren't happy with ICS now, you may never be happy with it on this phone. I can't see any monumental changes being made this late in the game.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
I think the AOSP editions are more polished imo
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] grncherry:
I think you are correct EL29 is my old faithful, everything just seems to work.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Yes I like aokp/codename more than the leaks provided by Samsung
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] abusedcloth:
It's not late in the game, the game just started. People just expect way too much at the moment. I think this next build they have gotten enough information to take the time to correct the little things, the ICS build has come a long way since it first appeared.

Plus, People are already talking about features from a device (GSIII) they want ported already like they have it in there hands already. Point is people need to slow down.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] grncherry:
I think bluetooth and voice command are core features of any mobile phone and have been for years. They work flawlessly on the GB roms, as well as IOS and BB. Logic would dictate with the hands-free laws in place nearly everywhere, the voice activated dialing should be a no brainer. It isn't like it is new technology.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
If anyone is interested, I found the TwLauncher with the scrolling animations (no scrolling wallpaper). It's the official one from the FB17 leak for our device. Seems to run perfect on my phone and it's very smooth.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1564226

Also, another person has ported the same launcher which he claims has scrolling wallpaper too, but I couldn't get it to work, even by replacing the the lib in the zip

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1520436
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
Got my nexus today, which means y'all should be getting the official update to ics on Monday! Haha always happens but I am really liking this nexus, can't wait to get home and root so I can shut this darn camera up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Although I think we've only ever had one (maybe two) Sunday releases, you might've just become the catalyst for our next, and final release. Go you!!

p.s. enjoy your GNex :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
Thanks. Looking forward to the update. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
As if Sprint is working over the Cinco de Mayo weekend!

On the other hand, I'd be happy to slam a penalty shot if I am wrong.

Happily enjoying FD26 til a better release comes along.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
I just got lost in CyanogenMod 9and while i havent tested every app surprisingly most of the time its better. Still some quirks not in FD26 but the speed took me by surprise. I didnt plan to be on it more than a day. Now i think ill only flash back to work on learning kernel development.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] brooksyx:
Can we haz kernel source already pleaze! Come on sprint/samsung push the official ota already. A bunch of us just want the source for our aosp roms, which is where this phone really shines!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
I am starting to believe that Samsung developers are taking a break D:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Root:
This does seem like before updates on old epic. It used to get too quiet.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Right, celebrating cinco de mayo, LOL.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Erigion:
Does anyone else's battery get drained really quickly from using GPS?

I used Waze for about an hour and lost a little over 60%. It was on 3G with the "Keep Backlight On" option off. The phone also got much hotter than when I was using EL29.

I'm glad that I can get a GPS lock within seconds of it trying to acquire signal and I can even get a lock from certain places indoors. But I'm assuming that they're just dumping more power into the GPS chip which makes it lock on faster but drains the battery much, much faster.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
GPS has been bad on my battery on my last 3 Sammys (OG Epic, NS4G, and ET4G) I always plug in to car charger when possible and the battery seems to stay right where it is or slightly charge so it must be taxing the battery quite a bit
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reddragon72:
GPS is the worst battery killer ever. I used it yesterday for a little over 40 min and lost 40% battery, but it was also with the display on and using a geocaching app that was pulling data and using google maps for it's map. So technically it was three things all at once, oh and 4G was on as well. So it wasn't bad, but wish that GPS could do better.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Time for them to wake up, sober up and get to work lol saltines and ginger ale for everyone!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yokken:
I can GPS navigate for 40 minutes and it drains my battery maybe 5%. You guys are doin' it wrong. EL29 for life.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I was actually referring to my EL29 numbers say navigating from Orange County to someplace in Los Angeles. 5% in 40 min? Are you using turn by turn navigation?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Erigion:
GPS battery life on EL29 was never that good, but it's amazing compared to what I get on FD26.

I tried Google Maps Navigation and it seems to use a little less power than Waze and the phone doesn't get quite as hot as Waze. So it seems that Waze might be contributing to the power drain, but I'm still thinking that Samsung just decided to throw a lot more power at the chip.

This is a horrible choice. I'd take a slightly longer time before lock than having my entire battery vanish is a little over 2 hours.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
Should we be looking for FE06 or FE07 tomorrow? Heard a new build is coming tomorrow
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
Maybe if we're lucky...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I am betting this week we will see an rdf. I have multiple sources telling me this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
Did you hear any dates besides just this week? I know dates obviously aren't for certain, but I'm still curious :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
I read somewhere about the 7th and the 9th (Monday and Wednesday). It was on xda but I can't find it anymore.

---------- Post added at 09:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:03 PM ----------

Here's the FE09 evidence I read.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I have heard the 7th from a very good source. Obviously things are always subject to change.

I have only heard the 9th here do i can't confirm.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Hopefully this leak would be the second to last :) Maybe because Samsung will want to know if there any small bugs before the rumored "21 of May" OTA :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
On 50-75% screen brightness? I am just curious because in bright sunlight in your face or through the side/back windows your not going to be doing it on 0%.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Vandam500:
The title of this thread is pretty uh :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
I think this is slightly exaggerated. There's no way you can navigate for 40 minutes and only use up 5% of your charge. That's 13.3 hours of screen time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Stew put the pipe down lol. Where did u get 13.3 hours out of 40 Minutes :p Last I checked screen time wasn't like dog years.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
My thoughts exactly :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lkctd8:
40 minutes x 20 (5% x 20 = 100%) / 60 = 13.3 hours... Makes sense to me ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Except there is a curve to battery life. First 10% usually a lot better than the last 30%. Its more to do with accuracy than actuality. I dunno inverted or night time maps and night time use (lower screen brightness) Would help a lot.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
Either way nobody is getting anywhere near that!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
Alright fine lol lets do it then. Night time, 0% brightness. 40 minutes of GPS navigation after a full charge on a GOOD battery. Any build any program, better use one that has dark maps at night. Lets see who can match that guys numbers.

Id think its reasonable and I would also think id kill the phone with 2 hours of screen on and 8 hours total counting the rest of the use of the phone. Sigh I guess I need to drive out to work at night or something lol. My drive is usually 25 to 60 minutes. Pretty sure mine will be BAD. On CM9 and all. Its not bad but not ideal either.

Anyone who thinks their first 5% can match the last 5 is crazy. Though 10% would be more reasonable. Remember our phone doesnt actually have a backlight so the displayed content greatly affects the screen power usage. Cant say much on GPS power usage I do not monitor it. I leave it on and i let programs sample it hourly, 10 minutes for TEP which last worked on EL29.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yokken:
Yep, the Google Navigation. It's really not bad. My GPS usually locks within 3-5 seconds when I'm outside in the car.

50%. It's maybe 8% battery drain, 5 is a bit exaggerated. But it's still nothing terrible at all.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jayharper08:
Is that the only thing people argue about now is battery? Lol. I think I'm going to make a section just for battery life. You can argue till your hearts content, calculate %'s, post screenshots all you want. ;) It's in almost every thread I go over.

Been a long night. Have fun peeps :p

---Jay--- From the AOKP powered E4GT
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
LMAO yeah yeah. But we need an uber special section for people with 1 year old phones that let it hit 2-5% every day cant explain why on every rom they get 8 minutes of battery life after a year. I dunno just something i noticed in the Epic 4G section. I try to charge it when it hits no lower than 15% or when I know i can get it back to 100% before I have to pull it. But unlike my old phones i dont this battery will last the life of the phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
God, it's so quiet that people are posting all nostalgic for 300bps modems and old ISPs. Hoping for a leak soon cause these bored peeps need something better to talk about.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I am predicting before noon today on the next rdf. Any other predictions? Closest without going over gets a virtual high five. It is like The Price Is Right. You can't go over.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
12:01
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
11:28
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingdazy:
1:05
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Nick Venture:
Do these ICS builds fix the network location thing where it lags behind? Because it sucks when I'm trying to check-in or if I want to use something like Llama.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Priceless! lol

Oh and I predict 2pm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stevetrooper:
12:02 :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
12:47
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ydoucare:
Cool, one giant e-penis battle.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MeWarning:
1:32
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
The first bidder always gets shafted.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] brooksyx:
$1 Bob

Haha would be nice to get a new rdf today.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] veritasaequita:
i still say we start a rdf pool or better yet an ota pool. might make this a more pleasant wait.

sent from my BMF-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluphi1914:
1:15pm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
13:01
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
It is up. I was off by 35 minutes. Damn....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
yay I was thinking it wouldn't happen till late
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
Awesome
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hduenas1989:
FE07 Woo!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
You might not have to wait that long. I got the f-n day off today.

No jacking around with a slow connection at work. I got 40 down and 5 up at home baby. We will just see if it shows up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Darn, I missed but hot damn! new rdf, yay!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bambam126:
wooo

yay u think its final? there's not that many bugs left
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
Nice cant wait to dl it! Looks like it has 4.0.4 now
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
Guess what I spotted in the rdf

OSVersionAndroid 4.0.4

edit batting1000 (great handle) just beat me to it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arehm:
I have to give Samsung and Sprint credit. They're brilliant. Keep leaking these betas, let us test at no risk to them, and report what's wrong. Not that I'm complaining.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mad5870:
Very true check around first line in screen shot. Awesome!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
They arent letting us test lol the builds are just being leaked
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
Who won?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] arehm:
It all works out the same to them. I'm sure someone over there is watching here to see what problems are popping up in the real world as opposed to their limited test community/facility.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
Me. I typed up the rdf :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
So much for the people who said we would see 4.0.4!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
By the time they release source we'll have the s3 already lol.. guess leaks are next best thing.. then again i dont want a official release full of bugs.. good job sprint/sammy! Glad to see its still being worked on vigorously :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] batting1000:
Can't wait to download this later!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
MAVD5831 guessed 11:28. He was so close but he overbid. Better luck in the bonus round.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
In essence, we all did lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] T.C.P:
how about a guess for when it will be leaked? I say 8pm pdt
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] &roid:
I have to agree with this guy... :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I say before 5.

It is just a rendering of what we all might want later.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
Will this one be final?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yokken:
A render... right... ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I don't know if it is the final. I will try and find out later. I doubt it though. They upgraded the OS. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a few more tweaks. When they updated gingerbread there was three rdfs to get it right.

But them again. You just never know. I do know one thing. I just read a KC firefighter got turned in for selling meth out of the fire station. I can positively say it wasn't me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Getting out in front of a story is a classic political strategy. Now I know it was you! :p:D:what:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yokken:
There was a guy in Minneapolis who recently got busted for the same thing. Sold to an undercover cop. Ouch.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I love stupid criminals, they make me smile.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
The story I read was that he was driving a car beyond his means. I have a 98 Subaru Legacy with hail damage.

.....My wife on the other hand has an 06 Audi A3.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Becoming:
Glad to see that they're going full out to get 4.04 in there. I think everyone will agree that a bit extra wait for the most up to date improvements is well worth it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bullet2300:
Pretty pumped to see this! I hope it's near final :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
Thx for the update KC. I knew they wouldn't have us being the only device on 4.0.3. Just didn't make sense. If it wasn't good enough for the Nexus S & Galaxy Nexus CDMA then it's not good enough for us either!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Hmm...

4.0.3 --> 4.0.4 changelog:

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1Jx3-OX58QXR3tN-OQF55nRyR2zhIUIx_D7iexca_XUk

(Member of Google AOSP provided steps to dump, then someone posted.)

Just one of the brand-specific nuggets found in the list:

Edit: Found the change - it's an MMC driver change, all right.

https://bitbucket.org/franciscofranco/android-tuna-omap/changeset/cea631bdac53

All in all quite a few changes in the version update. Good call on Sammy's part for releasing it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Since May 18th is being floated as a possible release date for HTC EVO 4G LTE (wtf is it with Sprint's long ass names?) I wonder if that means we'll get the official OTA for ICS after that point?