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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] squiggie:
Well this is just wonderful. I for one am sick of these losers ruining everything for the rest of us.

Sextape - Please ignore the stupid ignorant children and continue to help out our E4GT community.

Moderators - PLEASE stop warning and start banning the people that are pissing off our communities valued individuals before we no longer have a community.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] enormous:
What this guy said.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D710/FB29.rdf

Maybe this will help us turn a new leaf.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] anthony67:
OSVersion Android 2.3.6
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
OS version does not mean anything
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Actually it does, I think this is a mistake from sprint.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Hopefully we can get a leak of fb29!! Jk

I'm happy progress is being made for our phones :)

Sent from self nominated team "Z" member's phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
It's common they don't change crap like that
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
This might not be our phone. The page says SPH-D700 which is the OG Epic. Something is not right. That is why is says android 2.3.6. It is the wrong phone.

And Isaint, i know they just skip stuff. But, the correct phone isn't one of them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
But they did with FB27. So it's either a mistake or they are working on a new GB build before we get a ICS rom O.o

---------- Post added at 07:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:48 AM ----------

Lol I just looked at that part. Looks like Sprint did mess up after all. Oh well not a big deal really.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I am pretty sure that we are very close to an official release. We won't see a launch for a month but the build is damn near done.

So, it really can be one of two things. This is a OG Epic update in the wrong address or an ET4G update with the wrong summary.

Either way, you guys know it is there. Should I change the OP back to FB27 or leave it with the fishy FB29?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
My bad honestly didn't look at it.

ICS is not exciting anymore ...

it's too late im waiting on the SGS3 or w/e HTC brings out
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
I'd change it back. Yes its in the right place but the info is all wrong. Or leave it and make note about the errors?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rgregg504:
Leave fb27 but include fb29 with a ?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I agree. It came out damn near 6 months ago. Ya, we might get the update before HTC but by the time this launches over the air we will sport it for maybe 3 months. The a new phone will be out. Three months after that we will see Jelly Bean. And next February we will be begging for our JB update. I have been seeing this for years.

I updated the OP. And one more thing Isaint, I read my post. It sounded overly sarcastic. I wasn't trying to make you sound bad. When you just see what someone types it doesn't do a great job of showing that. I was just trying to point out the page. I figured you missed that part of the rdf.

Right now I am walking on eggshells. Some people can be sensitive and I don't want anyone's feeling hurt. So, in the future I will be very thoughtful in what I write. What might be funny to some might not be funny to everyone.

I take the blame for what I did yesterday. I will keep my opinions(of people) to myself or in a pm.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kj13569:
You are 110% right. At this point it's pointless...

Is it really worth all the stress/pressure and work on both dev and consumer? I think the people who have no idea/don't care about rooting and Android versions live their lives instead of checking XDA every day and always having a phone that has a bug of some sort... JB next then Krispy Kreme or KJ(me lol) or some ****... it gets old...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
This is either the best or worst thread ever...I still can't decide..lol. Korey is right. This was getting like the Epic forum did until the mods started chopping heads off for mentioning the word "update"
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] T.C.P:
can I haz updatez?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KBizzle:
Yes please?? I woke up around 9 am. Watched some CSI, ate some pizza, flashed back to an el29 rom, surfed the Chive and then watched the video for TSF Shell, contemplating if the price tag is worth it. Is that the update you were looking for?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingdazy:
I'm leaning towards worst. ;)

I am so not excited about leaks at this point. I come here for S 'n G's every other day, but buggy builds are not exciting for me anymore. We all know what ICS looks like, what it does...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
:p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sader2202:
All I know is, I want my JayBean leak now. Lol

Darth Sader
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] humdrum2009:
With the way cm9 is running for me ;the ics leaks aren't that exciting.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SuperSwagSauce:
Interested to see how much they change from ICS.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Does anyone think we will see any ui changes with the newer builds?

Remember how on the last batch of GB build they changed the bounce in scrolling and the color of the glow and stuff?

I didn't notice anything jumping out at me so far. Any thoughts? I really wish they would make the launcher 5 wide. As big as the screen is they could use up some more space for sure.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Things sure seem to be getting close to final the way the RDFs are flying out. I have a feeling the official will be pretty much an ironed out version of what we have seen.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SuperSwagSauce:
Agreed. I'm not expecting any surprises.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
Google needs to relax with this stuff, and so do the vendors. Stop poopingout 35 mediocre phones and just make one Flagship, one mid level and one cheap one. Build the OS around the flagship phone, and focus on the experience, instead of piddling to the number of phones you ship every quarter. This summer, for every 1 ICS phone that's outstanding, there will be probably 10-15 that are just outright terrible.

I mean, look at Sprint's line up right now, as just an example. There are 10+ android phones and maybe 2 of them are not pieces of candy. These are also the only 2 that will possibly get ICS.

Customers who buy the other phones are already buying outdated hardware and software, and will be stuck for 2 years with it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Agreed! Apple is doing pretty good with 1 phone at a time.

I had a great idea for google if they ever cared what someone like me had to say. Let them be in charge of their own updates. They get the drivers and launchers from the manufacturers and build a cookbook. Check the boxes that apply to the device and spit out the OS for the phone. Let the computer build the software in a virtual kitchen. Wouldnt that be nice?

If they can map the whole USA you would think this would be simple and cost effective too.

Sent from the phone of the founding member of the Epic Touch "B" team.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rdsnyder:
I thought Google just provided the OS & manufacturers and carriers do the phones themselves? It's like if Apple allowed HTC, Samsung, Motorola, LG etc to make phones that run ios.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] neudof:
When Samsung is ready with what they think is the OTA update, I can almost guarantee that we will see another leak. They have a huge community of free testers, why do you think we got the leaks in the first place?

Sent from my ICS'ed out SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
I said the vendors do too. Google keeps putting out a new OS every 6-8 months and Each vendor makes like 10-15 phones a year, but only 1-2 are even worth having.

In the last year, just on Sprint, Samsung has released the Nexus S, the Epic Touch, The Transform, the Transform Ultra, and the Replenish. Not to mention that the Epic is still available for sale.

The Nexus was on outdated hardware when it launched on Sprint, the Epic is single core as well. The Transform is terrible, and so is the Replenish. The Transform Ultra is actually ok, but again, it's already outdated. The only phone that makes any sense to buy right now is the Epic Touch, and even that's up for debate. Why buy it right now and in about 6 months be pissed off when the Samsung Galaxy S III Epic 4G LTE Touch 2 launches?

It's insane. I completely understand why people pick the iPhone over Android. Even if I buy a 4s right now, it might not have all the hardware features that the 5 will have, but I'll bet my yearly salary that it will run iOS 6 just fine, and it will be available at the same time that it is for the iPhone 5.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingdazy:
Yup. I felt like this happened as well with the Evo4G and sense. New android build, but the Sense build didn't change at all. They saved the new ui for the new phones.

HTCs statement could have been "you want the new features, get a new phone!" I suspect samsung is doing the same.

Sent from my calculator watch.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
LMFAO

you think any of these companies care about you or what you think would be better f#ck no they only care about what will make the most $$$$
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Also the average customer probably doesn't know the difference between Gingerbread and ICS. We are really the only ones going nuts about that. When I go into a Sprint store, I see people looking at some of those junk phones and they are happy with them. I laugh inside but hey, if they are happy then its a win for Sprint I guess.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
Absolutely they do not care about us. If they did they would make one amazing phone a year and support it for years later.

If only Apple and Google would merge.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
If making the customer happy keeps loyal customers, then it works out. Sprint is rated #1 with customer service of all carriers. The reason i love sprint is they always give me an early upgrade, even when not available.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Sprint only kisses the customers ass because we give them $$

the same way it makes them $$ to sell 50 different types of phones from 50 different manufacturers for the year and never support any of them decently

P.S.

Whatsup sexy :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xCovErtWolFx757:
How exactly do you do that. I had to buy this phone full price!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] barnacles10:
Except for one but that's because the company feels its important to keep users up to date.

Android rocks, but this fragmentation with even such a high end phone is enough rile the troops =P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Agreed Thats why Im giving them a big F#@$#@%@Ck

you !!

and buying an iPhone 5 when it comes out ...

JK I'd rather go back to the htc hero :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] barnacles10:
From what I've learned if you really want android and you care about up to date software your best bet is simply GED devices.

But surprise surprise.. we are STILL waiting on sprints release. Surprised they released the iPhone 4s at the same time as the masses.

::rolls eyes::
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
I think we are a little biased here, and are NOT a good representation of the public at large when it comes to phone-buying habits.

We are benchmark nerds. Here's a secret... My Moment can play Angry Birds and Words with Friends, take pictures, record video and text just fine. I had no real reason to upgrade to the GS2 except that I'm a technology nerd and wanted it.

The average person ISN'T going to be upgrading their phone every time the next generation comes out, unless you are a spoiled high schooler that "needs" to do so because he needs to be k00l. Its just too expensive.

Yes, ICS is new and shiny and I want it... But I want it because its new and shiny, not because it actually will bring something life-changing to my phone experience. There is nothing that slows down my phone NOW... nothing is going to change when ICS is loaded onto it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SuperSwagSauce:
This is arguable.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] barnacles10:
So true. But this poses another issue. With all this fragmentation users won't see the difference and know what ics is about because carriers strip things. For example the new swiping features through applications which are quite practical are not something we see in sammys builds. These were simply removed. That has nothing to do with ui looks. Its a feature. One that's removed. Another example, calendar. Ics brings much with the new calendar. Calendar on tw rom. No changes. Just a few examples.

Again. #fragmentation.

I'm not even gonna get into the market.. Haha

Don't get me wrong folks. I'm just trying to have civil conversation. I love Android.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Euclid's Brother:
What was the topic of this thread again? My goodness, there are dozens of pages of off topic crap on here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
Just because the average person doesn't know it's happening doesn't make it right.

It's a brown-stain business practice and it needs to stop.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] starnostar:
XDA-Member: This phone is great because it has a zippy CPU, samsung did a halfway decent job /w touchwiz, and Odin makes it great for rooting and custom firmware. This other phone isnt so great...its a pain to root, and the hardware was outdated a year before its release. Ill pay 200 bucks out of pocket, im stuck with it for 2 years so I mine as well get the best avalable now.

Average Consumer: OHHHHHMYGAWSH THESE PHONES ARE SOOOOOOO COOL!!! frankly I dont get why this one costs 200 bucks more than this other one over here...excuse me mr. vulture salesman, will this free phone run apps...ok, thanks ill take that one then.

I own my own technology business...from my experience, people are either in the loop, or back in the stone-age. The average consumer doesn't understand the differences between phones or even computers for that matter, so they just get the cheap crap....then regret it shortly after the return deadline.

The way I see it...survival of the fittest. I'm not gonna be taken advantage of on ANY sales-floor, I always do my research and don't feel comfortable making a purchase until I have seen all the angles and understand what makes a product different from others. If people don't feel its necessary to do this....then let carriers/manufactures take advantage of them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Specialksg1:
This is also the reason our ota ics will look a lot like or gingerbread, which looked quite similar to or froyo. Most people would freak out if their phone suddenly looked like untouched ics.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wase4711:
great statement; knowledge IS POWER!

The more you know about any purchase before you make it, the better your experience is going to be..It's invaluable when you go out shopping, to insure that some nit wit sales person doesn't feed you a line of **** that you believe, and end up buying something you will regret later..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jerdog:
You said "update"
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bsmoove386:
This can't be entirely true because ppl are breaking their necks for iphones. I have to say it's mainly because people don't understand Android. They're confused about it. Also it doesn't help that Apple had a good loyal group of customers before Android. If android is to come out on top they really need to focus on just a few phones that are stock and only a few manufacturer phones. They also need to work on battery life. Most consumers want the cheapest phone however others want a smartphone as well that's going to run fast and not die on them in 4-6 hours.

Edit : when I say fast I mainly mean running smoothly with no fc and rebooting!

Sent from Galaxy Pimp Or Die
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
Lol having fun I see :D

Sent from GNex
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Well played sir! Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] starnostar:
Its not about a battle between android vs iphone, once again it all comes down to gullability and laziness. I think that iphones are right for some people, I definatly think they fill a niche just like android does...but some customers fall for advertising and dont make an informed purchase via looking at alternatives and thinking about what they want or need more.

I have an ipad (puts on flame suit) and I love it because it does what I need it to do better than an android tablet does. I use it /w notetaker hd, a scanner, and dropbox for college notes and overall organization. Currently, there is no better alternative that fits my needs for a digital-handwritten notetaking system that also holds scanned documents in a neat folder hierarchy (readdle docs)....I looked at the alternatives and apple won in this regard for me, which is entirely different from buying and ipad just because ads tell me I should or because it has an apple logo on it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
nevermind...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xCovErtWolFx757:
The way I see it. Apple:girls, rich people, user-friendly

Android:guys, people who know what to do with a phone

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
I totally agree with this. Android fits me and what I use it for yet I know others that use an iPhone and it does what they need as well. People that do know what they need are going to go for that first and foremost always. As much as I love android I'm looking at buying a tablet and right now it's between the iPad or an Android device and right now Apple is winning in that department not cause of the name but cause right now it does have what I'm going to be using it for.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I don't see why people have a problem with that but I also don't know much about Apple and their history. I do hear a lot about patents and lawsuits. I have actually never even touched an iPhone so I can't comment on that
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
I've suggested iPhones to a few people only for the simple fact that since they were already pretty much Apple people (they had everything in iTunes and were considering an iPad for a tablet) that it just made sense to just keep it all together. I've used iPhones before I kinda have to at times (only cause some places I do stuff for that's what they use) outside of that however I'm Android and have been for 3+ years now. I do however own an iTouch for the simple fact nothing I've seen Android wise for just a player has battery life that worth a **** next to the iTouch if they did I would grab one in a minute.

And yeah the lawsuits are getting kinda old from Apple's side. It's sad cause I've seen this said and it does hold true for the most part Apple does/can/will use something someone else makes or innovates and put it on their Phone/Tablet and whatever else they want but as soon as someone does the same to something they create it's lawsuit!!!!!! They can sit there and "steal" things from others but god forbid you actually use something even if it's a bit different then what they have and they are on you like stink on **** it's pretty sad.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
I've touched both the iPhone and iPad but didn't really care for them. The iPad mostly because in general a tablet doesn't suit me. Do you know if crawrj started to enjoy his i-devices? Sure been quiet since he got them :(

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Yeah, crawrj really did a lot with the AIO mod. I remember on the Epic when he first got the Hotspot hack, lockscreen mod, etc all together. It definitely made things much easier
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] master acehole:
While on the subject I saw an article of apple trying to make mini ipads...... (facepalm) *sigh* I dont want to live on this planet with iphone still around idk how ppl say it is better than android ><
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
Yup those were good times on the Epic.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
Well like I said for some people it is for them as they are pretty much locked into something. It's like people being locked into using Windows (which right now I'm on Windows 8 and ug this things sucks ass) Each person is different however. Both devices have their Pro's and Con's for sure.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xCovErtWolFx757:
Only thing I like about iphone is cydia. If we get a cydia type app the ill be happy

!emit ruoy detsaw tsuj uoy
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Wizard Knight:
mini ipads??? wouldn't you just add that as another category for the ipod touch???

as for as iphone being better than android... it's all a matter of preference. I know people who do NOT want the customization and everything. They just want something stable, pretty, and flashy. You can't deny that the iphone fits snugly in that definition
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Don't blame him the iPhone is a far superior product plain and simple.

Apple on the other hand is a POS company
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
Well sb released A4 for CM9 which is cool. Hope we can get a AOKP build here sometime soon which would be sweetness.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Those times were fun. I am an ACS team member yet every other team would still let me test their work before release. I don't think its quite the same over there anymore though. Once CM9 released, it seemed they kind of took over the whole show. I hope as things progress for the E4GT that people remain helpful and open to sharing ideas because things are very close to taking off now...fun times are ahead!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] master acehole:
True preference definitely matters but ppl blatantly say this with never experiencing android I tried apple I left in a week I just can't stand it I will give you that it is a very.good product just the hype it builds!!!!! And yes mini ipads....... Wtf?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
Hehe. We give Samsung money when we buy their phone, even if it's free on contract. Sammy gets a share from the sprint plan.

And to answer the early upgrade question, usually if i don't get passed the front end customer service, i call retentions and tell them about Verizon's LTE in my house. Lol they send me on my way a happy customer. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Majin101:
Progress ftw !
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Hey, is there a slush fund somewhere for the epic. I need 80 bucks.

;)

Sent from the phone of the founding member of the Epic Touch "B" team.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Yea .... but whatup sexy :cool:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Everybody needs to go take a nap.

Sent from the phone of the founding member of the Epic Touch "B" team.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
Well I was going to install CM9 but it's being a ***** and not liking me right now very much. looks like it might be time to go back to a backup.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KBizzle:
How did you go about flashing?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
Same way I did it on the other builds. went back to a stock cwm recovery with chris4g's repack then installed cm9 then gapps sat at the sgs2 boot screen for 15 minutes (already had FB21 modem since that's what I had been running.)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xCovErtWolFx757:
Well when you do tell me how it is compared to the FB21

!emit ruoy detsaw tsuj uoy
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] digitalcrash:
This to me is a better build than the stock I have everything it had but the ability to mount my SD card. internal works just fine.and video camera is borked
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KBizzle:
You could try what I've always done.

Flash CM7, wait for it to boot up. Reboot to recovery, wipe data, cache, system, flash cm9, flash gapps, boot. Not saying you're doing anything wrong, just how I did it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
I might try it later right now I need to put the phone on the charger however it's sitting at 20% I'll either mess with it more tomorrow or later tonight.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KBizzle:
Alright, good luck. You will be happy once you get it going.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] klyang88:
FB29 Android OS version 2.3.6..... o.O?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Yes we know.... seems to be a mistake by sprint

Sent from self nominated team "Z" member's phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] klyang88:
haha gotcha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
A/s/l?