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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Just so there is no mystery, the effective difference between the Full and NoData versions is NoData will do the upgrade (modem/kernel/ROM) but will not clear /data and /cache. Clearing /data and /cache is essentially a factory reset.

If comparing the NoData ODIN OneClick to the OTA: the NoData ODIN OneClick is working just like the OTA. The main difference is whether you are "patching" existing ROM files or just replacing the full files. If you are starting with stock unmodified EL29, the results would be the same. If you added files to EL29, then the OTA would keep your added files.

The OTA will probably work fine for 85% of the folks going from EL29 to the eventual official ICS but there will be some cases where it doesn't and people will need to do a factory reset. The same will be true of the NoData ODIN OneClick.

In terms of using the NoData when you are already on ICS, if you are on the same version and just want to reset the ROM (/system) or add root when you applied the OTA of the same version, it should work 99% of the time.

When using the NoData to move forward versions, there was a long period when it was working fine in this manner, but with the more recent builds, something may have changed because some people have reported issues with some FCs.

It is likely if you cleared data on a few apps the FCs would go away.

I wouldn't recommend using NoData to go back versions.

Whether it works or not without issues is often dependent on what you have installed. For some folks the NoData will consistently work. For others it will usually give troubles. If you know which situation you are in, you can judiciously make use of NoData when you want to try something out real quick. Worst case, you just flash the full version if you have issues. There are no danger will robinson bricking issues.

I see it like this, you see there is traffic on the regular path and you take a shortcut. Sometimes it saves you time, sometimes it doesn't. If you know the roads well, you can save time more often than not.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I do that but I can't blame it on the app because I do it from the computer. lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
The OTA is designed to work ontop of EL29. The NoData version is doing the same thing as the OTA so if you are worried about OTA experience, you should go back to an EL29 backup and try the NoData version.

When using NoData from ICS to ICS, it is bascially the short-cut analogy in the previous post. You see there is traffic on the regular path and decide to take a short-cut. Sometimes it saves time, sometimes it doesn't. You'll still get where you want to go in the end.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
I'm a little curious how this is going to play out for the wi-fi considering the config file changes both in content and location. Maybe they have something in the update script that will handle this?

Another thing - wi-fi signal is not dropping off like in FExx builds. Again, could be because I finally did the package that wipes data and cache, but not exactly sure how that would have done it as I used the same wpa_supplicant.conf. I suppose there could have been something else lying around being the culprit....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
And for the love of anything Holy to any of you, do not do a Titanium Backup full batch restore from one ICS build to another after a full data wipe Odin OC!

It's a n00b mistake, and I take full responsibility for my actions, LOL. Now that I have educated myself further, I realize how little sense doing something like that makes. I made that mistake more than once and would rather people who are new to this learn from my mistakes than repeat them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wraith404:
I do it every time, user apps / missing apps only of course. Restoring 200 apps manually could be used in place of water-boarding by certain institutions.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
I didn't mean to imply they could *only* patch files. They have the ability to do most anything you can do in a regular shell script in the updater-script. They can even call out to run a shell script if needed.

In the case of what you describe, they simply delete the unnecessary files prior to applying patches. Further, not all files are shipped as patches. The ones where it make sense to ship as patches are shipped that way. If a file is moving locations, they simple delete the old file and ship the full version of the new file.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I just go the no data route a few times. Then every few installs I do a clean install and wipe everything. I would assume I could just do another no data update but it gives me piece of mind to do a clean install.

It might be just me but a fresh install seems like a good idea from time to time. When you install a lot of files, remove files, and add themes you never know what trouble you will encounter.

Just my two cents.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
I guess my question was this - did they package something in there to parse the old file and build the network configurations into the new wpa_supplicant.conf, move/rename the bcm_supp.conf to /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf or just delete and make the new file? I doubt it's the last one as that would make some people upset, so my guess is the first option.

Since you can script parsing a file I guess they could just make another script just for this and then execute it in the main update.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
The batch complete full app restore I was referring to includes system apps. Your calendar, contacts, and a whole slew of other things will FC from boot and cause rebooting cycles.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
And..............Does This Mean the End?

As Im looking at the release notes I saw something interesting;

Issue resolved in FF02. . FF02 is final SW candidate binary.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Sounds like the end to me. I wonder if it means the fix was applied in an area that can't be checked until source is dropped?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
The word Candidate doesn't seem final to me, well see what happens
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tmeader:
That really blows if they didn't fix something as obvious as the constant roaming indicator. Good lord.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Sounds more like a pool...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
I know this blows I kept roaming in the Maldives lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
The word "final" seems final to me. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wraith404:
Oh yeah, restoring system data is usually like walking a mine field. I've restored accounts and bluetooth a few times when I was feeling lucky. It's most dangerous across versions, like when going from GB to ICS, or 4.03 to 4.04. I boot-looped on the latter when I decided to get a little frisky. Odin to the rescue :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
For those of you who use english as your primary language what this means is:

FF02 is the final SoftWare candidate that has been compiled to run the phone.

Binary means "two" to most of us. Binary in the computer world can mean it is an executable file or system. So, in our case binary means it was compiled to run our phone.

At least I think I am right. Not much computer science at the fire academy.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] garwynn:
Well we've heard that no one in the US is working on it... but that's not to say that S. Korea couldn't do anything from there either. (If US teams are done they would probably be one of the few left available to work on it.) Maybe that response from OSRC does factor in after all...?

As you said, we'll see when we see.

Also, tried 4G while driving today and it didn't lose the signal! So I am seeing some differences between FE22 and FF02. Not sure though if this could be explained away by my nodata updates last month.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Yup! Hard lesson learned. If I can keep one n00b from repeating those woes, I will consider myself victorious,LOL!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ginjeet:
If you have Regis Philbin's phone number, I'd be happy to call him to see if he concurs. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
I'm not familiar with the nuances of which file goes where under what version and what needs to get converted.

I know the install is removing /system/etc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf and replacing it with a new one, however it isn't directly touching /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf. I imagine if any conversion is necessary, it would be the responsibility of the wpa_supplicant executable rather than the install.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Looks like a Chrome Beta update is out. Praying it is fixed for our device while I await this uber slow download on the NOT-NOW network.

EDIT: And it is fixed!! The last pieces of the ICS puzzle are all falling into place! Source is the final piece!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stevetrooper:
I did the upgrade to Chrome, it is working smoothly so far.. Keeping my fingers crossed....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
So the process would be to Odin one click ff02, then flash the older kernel repack then flash the ff02 kernel and modem? My biggest thing is having root and custom recovery...also I'm impatient so if this is the final, I'm in. Thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
If you are wanting to end up with FF02 ROM + FF02 Modem + FF02 Kernel+Custom Recovery, after flashing the ODIN OneClick, run Auto Root and choose Option D to install FF02+CWM-agat.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] winfan:
I've been on 4G all day today and I have not lost any signal. The only place I've lost signal are areas i know I don't receive 4G service. It's working very well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kali323:
So chrome now works on our phones. Maybe people will stop *****ing at samsung like it was their fault that someone elses beta software (that is not included in their stock rom) didnt work on their phones.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tmeader:
Or just use Firefox Beta which is actually much MUCH faster that Chrome ever was for me on this phone anyway. Note, I'm talking about the NEW, RECENT Firefox Beta versions, not the standard "Firefox" on the Market.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I'm a big fan of xScope and Dolphin Browser.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Wait, isn't that FD02, or is there a new Auto Root Package I need to get too?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tailsthecat3:
Been using Boat Browser for what seems like a year. It's awesome.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] peanut1596:
Same here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tmeader:
Yup ;) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Chrome is running good so far!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] &roid:
FD02 is not Agat, so it is likely that sfhub has updated it to use Agat's repack which is recent.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PaulB007:
I wonder if we will ever see battery life like on gingerbread when OTA rolls around. A few here seem to get good battery, but I can't. I won't even install any apps just to see if it makes a difference and sadly it doesn't. So it can't be wake locks ect if there aren't any apps even installed. I think there's a problem between hardware and software.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
If you're experiencing the same bugs its likely just tge fact that you have not cleanly installed somewhere along yhe way because I'm on both kernel and modem ff02 completely wiped prior to flash and everything that wasn't working prior is working fine now

Sent from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my Epic 4G Touch... The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.6!!! Sprint quit screwing around and let's "Sprint" forward!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Sounds more like an unhealthy battery actually

Sent from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my Epic 4G Touch... The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.6!!! Sprint quit screwing around and let's "Sprint" forward!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
I believe FD02 was steady's last repack before he swapped phones.

Agat is working on repacks and sfhub has been doing repacks with the unlocked stock kernel.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] socialsp:
Im so excited on getting the OTA soon, hope it is soon.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] icarr4077:
Me too! Though I'm not really holding my breath anymore as I wouldn't be surprised if its sometime after s3 release as many others have said. Assuming that it will be releases and apple doesn't get in the way.... sorry that may be off topic.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PaulB007:
I wish I could believe this, but I have tested a few stock batteries and I just can't win.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
Using exchange email can you type in the out of office internal message box? The keyboard doesn't come up and bug is still present for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ArgyleDX:
Of course it's just his signature, but it looks like he is running Blu Kuban which isn't even based on FF02? Maybe he's gone through the effort of wiping and reflashing his phone to test, but I wouldn't necessarily count on it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
That would explain it. Def bugs left. Exchange bugs shouldn't be otad unless you want to lose corporate customers
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
Issue recreated, hopefully someone from Samsung/Sprint is reading this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Fair enough! I'm down for the download, I just find it comical that D was the option for FD02 and is now the option for FF02. I dunno if it was intended, but it follows the K.I.S.S. format perfectly.

OFF TOPIC: BTW, tried FF02 for all of 30 min, but couldn't help myself. With all of the Blu Kuban hype, I had to give it a try. Now I'm wondering what took me so long.

MORE OFF TOPIC: Band practice was better than expected. Learned "Scotland the Brave" for the bagpipe fans and "Ned of the Hill." Both went well enough for first set material. :)

Btw,not The Pogues "Ned of the Hill" either. The original about a gaelic guy named emmond or whatever. I'm not the singer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Again, keep in mind that this was just a candidate for final. Hopefully the OTA is something we haven't seen. Would explain why FE26 wasn't leaked.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] satur9ine:
Not sure where you got this from. I read it as this was the final candidate. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
I'd expect another version
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
And why it took 4 days for FF02 to leak
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
This isn't OTA candidate. IMO I expect other build that possibly will be the OTA one. ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
I expect.. 4 more builds at least ;-) lol.. who knows?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
candidate for final

or

final candidate

that is the question

along with

to be or not to be
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Imaginos:
I am seeing this same Exchange OoO bug too.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
Someone is working way too hard lol but excellent quoting of the Bard :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RustedRoot:
Pray tell sir, are you vacationing in the Bard's homeland?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] darkson73:
Exchange OOTO bug

the is definitely an issue with configuring the message from the phone. As work around or by design not sure yet. Using Outlook to create the message an using the phone as a toggle works fine. I personally wouldn't compose my out of office message from my phone. I only use the Out of Office feature if I'm gonna be out for more than 2 business days. (just me)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 30footfall:
Dialer button sounds while on phone

Anyone else hear button presses on dialer while on the phone?

No, my face is not pressing buttons. It usually happens when I am on speakerphone or bluetooth to my car.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bleyten:
I haven't heard it with any of the ICS updates (yet) but it used to happen all the time for me with GB so might not be unique to ICS?!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
From what I seen, I think there might be one more leak before it is send out to the masses. I mean wouldn't it be stupid (excuse my informal language) if Samsung sent out an update with 10+ bugs. I mean the developing team for this phone shouldn't quit because if I remember right Samsung said they would provide support for our current phones for at least 16 or 18 months from launch. So what I believe is FF02 is not a final build. (Take notice this is all my opinion) :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] postq:
Yes.

I have noticed another strange bug on ICS leaks. My phone will randomly shut down immediately after being plugged into my car charger. The first few times I thought I somehow accidentally powered the phone down, but it has happened frequently enough that I am 100% it isn't being caused by button/screen presses. I have tried wiping/NODATA flashes, but as of yesterday, the bug persists.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Poet, scholar, international spy. Is there anything this guy can't do?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] andrewqueen:
Wasn't source supposed to be dropped yesterday?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sleshepic:
I would try a dif car charger...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
According to one source, yes. Things change though. It may have been delayed, or it may have been bad info.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
10+ bugs? I'm aware of *the* bug, which is the emmc issue and the notification light issue (which may be a new feature, not a bug?) and have heard about the exchange mail problems but I'm struggling to come up with the other 7+ bugs.

Can you list those please?

I wouldn't disagree that this is possibly not the final build.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
3 fleas on my battery

1 silverfish in my USB port

2 gnats in my SD card slot

1 cockroach on my screen

EDIT: just for Eso :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
lol

Okay you win, you have the most bugs although you left off the + :D

Here's the thing, I'm like knocking on wood, thanking my lucky stars and tossing spilled salt over my shoulder daily because I've never experienced a multitude of bugs on any of these leaks. Is my phone just touched by the gods or what?

Also I see people posting bugs with certain apps, chances are the bug in that situation is tied to the app, not the phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] edlee:
Is anyone else here worried that we are going to lose some awesome devs once gs3 hits?

I love my gs2, and I don't see any reason to upgrade to gs3 unless we loose all our great devs.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
We will, that's a natural progression and yeah, it sucks because these guys do fantastic work but there's a thread started to make note of the Devs who are staying and we are still going to be in good shape.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
I remember reading about 2 audio bugs, but I didn't pay enough attention to them to remember specifics. Something about particular file extensions audio being too low or something, and when you search artists in your library you get a FC. Look on the first page of sfhubs Odin OC. He lists them all and whether or not they are resolved. He has the most intimate knowledge of the code of anyone here, at least, that I have seen, so if that guy calls it a bug, I take his word for it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
CM9 devs just got a hold of the E4GT, so no doubt they'll stick around and keep dev'ing. And besides, new devs that are on a budget will be able to afford the E4GT and will come over when some of our current ones leave. It'll be a long time before development on this device dies.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rwilco12:
lol he obviously struggles with the concept of a vacation... ;)

But nobody here is complaining! Thanks sfhub for everything you do for us!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ascertion:
Don't you get it?! Sfhub's vacation time is XDA. He loves us that much!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
The exchange mail problems/bugs its just the not so secret now "SGA" operation from M$ against Google. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wraith404:
Just an observation, but I've been having some random performance and battery issue the last few ICS builds. I use Nova, and it was one of the things misbehaving so I started digging into its settings, and realized in the "unread counts" (which I had the sister app installed for) was complaining about a gmail compatibility problem.. something about the order in which the gmail update is applied with the install of unread counts. Well, I don't find myself actually using the feature much anyway, so I just uninstalled and disabled it. Oh, I used Widget Locker too which shares the same function.

With unread counts uninstalled, I have seen a distinct improvement in battery, cessation of all screen lag, and capacitive button lag/sleep lag.

I'd love some corroboration before I try to send the author an email describing what his errors might be causing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Sometimes you can catch some error messages in the logcats that give more info what is going on. Find the PID of the offending app first, the do logcat | grep PID This will reduce the clutter.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] locoboi187:
Try Apex
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reddragon72:
Posted up in QA, but I'm going to mention it here to. The Mouse pointer is missing. I attached a BT mouse and in GB a standard pointer shows up, but in 3 ICS builds there is no pointer showing up even though the mouse is working fine.

Can anyone check and confirm?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VanillaG0rilla:
I'm unable to check but I think there's a setting to show the pointer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] animal7296:
I can find the settings for speed but not to turn it on or anything.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
To enable pointer location...

From the home screen, press menu, select Settings, then scroll down to Developer options, Show pointer location.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VanillaG0rilla:
There it is...I knew I seent it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
Are you using usb port of your car or just the plain old plug in socket charger? Mine on GB reboots when I connect to usb port in 2012 Civic.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Admiral2145:
No way FF02 is ota with 4G reboot error still...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JDinAZ74:
This has happened to me a few times as well. I didn't give it much thought until reading this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cob11341:
Any new information out in the wild.about the official OTA? Because certainly FF02 cannot be the final! :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DevalB:
This is the first build that has perfect bluetooth with my car. I can browse my phonebook, calls, etc.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Just because ff02 IS MARKED FINAL, does not mean fe26 wont be the OTA, FF02 has bugs fe26 didn't. Could it be higher ups showing us what we could have dealt with if rushed? Who knows. At this point on Blu Kuban, who flippin cares anymore!!!!

Sent from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my Epic 4G Touch... The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.6!!! Sprint quit screwing around and let's "Sprint" forward!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TrayLunch:
Have you tried using any of the vlingo apps? Are they still cutting out too early when recording?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Someone posted that problem is still there (I think ArgyleDX). The reference link is in the 3rd post of the FF02 thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] postq:
Its is a plugin charger. APC travelpower laptop adapter, using the usb out.

Sent from smoke signals using xda premium
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Omar04:
You promote The Blu Kuban like you are getting $$$ for doing it LMAO (BTW I like it):)

Please do not misunderstand what I just said.;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SkuzFoz:
What if I told you that all software will always has bugs?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thirdcoastraised:
Well it caught lots of attention our dev. has become newest member of Team Venum testers joining also. So it really promotes itself! :) no offense taken btw I just have no shame in saying that if you want a stable, supported and constantly updated ROM with a group of users always willing to help each other out, you should definitely flash The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.6 TODAY then OTA WONT MATTER! ;):cool:

Sent from the only ROM Epic enough to run on my Epic 4G Touch... The Blu Kuban 1.0.3.6!!! Sprint quit screwing around and let's "Sprint" forward!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] radrian92:
+1thought i was the only one getting it.