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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bear gri11z:
i guess its kinda like gas... the business can only mark it up so much/state taxes and competitors

but honestly if sprint bought $630 million dollars (if im reading right) on iphones... and didnt get a "bulk" deal from apple (or any manufacturer for that matter) its their own fault....

im not gonna start a business and pay retail on 1000s of products to sell them cheaper in hope that the customer becomes a "regular"

sprint can kiss my ass there is NO way a business would make it in todays economic state if they play the foolish "hope" card

and if all carriers REALLLLLLLLY pay retail for **** plastic devices over seas then looks like i know what im gonna be investing in....

my opinion leave it at that if im wrong im wrong but seriously.... no fortune 500 company (investors/CEO's/ANYONE) would be so careless

its in my opinion its all a lie or atleast "stretched" truths

"I worked at T-Mobile for 5 years. I was the go to guy for Android phones and training. That passion didn't stop even after my departure from the company. I currently moved up from my MyTouch 3G to a Samsung Vibrant. A lot has changed in a very short time. I look forward to all the latest and greatest every time I wake up. "

no offense to the writer but you went from a mytouch 3g to a samsung galaxy s vibrant??!?!?!?!?!?!? lol they BOTH came out last year for god sakes
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
Can they say the same thing about Android? I am certain there are supporting numbers that account for loss for every device on the market. With so many makes and models of Android available I can imagine that we cost the carriers just as much if not more than the iPhone does. The difference is they aren’t linked to one specific device. Even though the numbers point towards iPhone as the devil, the consumers and the manufacturers are more to blame

Its the discount structure as a whole...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
Any monthly subscription service is the same way. You get people in the door (so to speak) with a loss leader, and then make all your money on the OTHER things the customer buys.

Even if you paid $500 for your ET, Sprint probably wouldn't make a profit straight out on it. Say it cost them $450 to purchase it from Samsung. It also cost something to get it shipped to the store. They have rent and utilities to pay each month. They have a manager and a salesguy to pay. By the time you shell out your $500, they MIGHT be breaking even.

But then you buy a screen protector for $25 and a carrying case for $30. Those two items probably cost them a combined $10. NOW you've made them a profit on the transaction.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bear gri11z:
yeah i got it but seriously WTF lol

i mean how does wirefly/letstalk.com get their phones and sell them cheap... do they buy from sprint? or from the manufacturer? ( i know they have their own ETF if you cancel in before a certain period) but my god i wouldnt put my business in customers hand who dont even get a REAL credit check done

sprint and tmobile are the easiest carriers to get into with horrible/no credit and not pay a HIGH deposit or NONE at all... i mean seriously lets give someone with poor credit a contractual obligation for 2 years with hope that they dont just bail and leave us with the bill (like they have done already) and cry about our profit margins and increase the prices/change policies on our current customers to make up the difference.... horrible business ethics... and that is coming from a person that dropped out of college.... a CEO cant figure this out?

or the investors who put their money into a ticking time bomb? i give zero ****s to sprint and there profit margins.... for all i care they can merge with big red or go bankrupt making a deal with apple to buy 30-35 million iphones in the next 4 years was a bad move.... and if they couldnt see that from AT&T after how many years of struggling with the iphone... then they are as naive as Lance Ito (the judge for OJ simpsons murder case)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stretchwookie:
higher termination fees, no multiple purchases of world phones on accounts with spending limits, no more sprint premier... you're right, it ISNT fair to those of us who have been customers for years... ONE of the many reasons i hate apple.

i work at a preferred retailer, and i have no idea what the epic touch cost. i CAN tell you though, that the HTC Evo 4G cost my store $375 per phone, with an MSRP of $449.99. we buy ours from a vendor named Brightpoint. i have no idea what brightpoints investment is on these devices, but i believe they are owned by sprint, so it IS possible that they are taking a hit from the manufacturer to me, hoping i sell them. i REALLY hope we arent WAGERING with my employer's future here...

yes, it really is close to retail. the iPhone 4S 16 GB costs my store $645 from our vendor... the MSRP is $650... either apple or brightpoint are bending us over here. in fact, its so bad, that the managers at my store wont sell iphones out of store inventory to upgrades, only to new lines. our franchise gets more commission from sprint for new lines, thus making it more "worth it". i think this is a TERRIBLE idea, you should never treat new customers better than current ones (or am i just too old fashioned? :rolleyes: )

loss leaders make more sense than gambling on the prospect of future business. i think this is probably what is happening. ill give you a hint though. my store's cost for a case and screen protector? >$10 :eek:

and since sprint REQUIRES we go through a certain accessory vendor, i am led to believe they get kick backs from the vendor (or what would it matter?)

as for the 11 month thing with tmobile, i dont know how sprints works, but i have an idea. when a customer cancels their line from sprint within the first 181 days, our commission is charged back (to the franchise, and then in turn to the salesperson). if its beyond that, franchise gets to keep the commission. if sprint is still losing money at this point, why arent they pulling the commission back? idk, i dont run a bazillion dollar (legit amount) corporation.

thats just my 47 cents.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
I had a feeling this would get some plps gears grinding. It did me.

Let's go spam the IPhone boards with this link.lol.

Come on some one do it. I will give ya all my thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ja5oN:
Dude Im going to go over to the iPhone forum to start a thread. Watch ill shoot you the link. :D

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I went looking, I need a link to an iphone forum. Im totally ready to start some trouble...:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
Inthe find your device box here in XDA type in IPhone.

Do it do it do it do it. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ja5oN:
LOL I totally went looking, but there are no iphone forums on xda. None... I even went and googled iphone forums, but the ones I went to, wanted me to start an account before I posted anything. LOL that would have been awesome though;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
Ok fukit I'm gonna do it. Brb.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ja5oN:
I went and typed iphone in the search box at the top and there are zero iphone forums
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] I Am Marino:
I'm surprised the phones cost as much as they do when it only takes like $150 to make them, am I correct?

Sent from my ADR6425LVW
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
Ok Ill give it a bit and report back. Im out gotta crash. Seeya.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Indrid Cole:
Edit: answer to the 150$ thing. Sorry tired as fauk. Quoted the wrong post..lol

Why yes you are.. Fukn apple. And plp eat there **** up. I have many an I fruit toting buds. And they just don't get it.

My feeling is Ifruit users want to be like everyone else. IE. One phone same looks.

Android users strive to be different. Thus ROOT was achieved.

I for one can't stand being told what I can and can't do. Fuk you SIRI ya *****.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] D-Tronic:
It definitely is very close (if not exactly) to retail. Apple does not offer discounted rates for large orders. Even the manufactures that do, (Samsung, LG, HTC, etc.) only offer marginal discounts on major release hardware (EVO 4G, Epic Touch, etc.) this is because of their own costs. If they sold it too far below MSRP it wouldn't be worth it.

Actually, if you went to Bestbuy and bought a Macbook or an iMac the store would be making absolutely nothing on that purchase, but they'd hope that once you come in to buy the Apple product they'd be able to sell you an accessory or something of that nature.

Take a look at Apple's quarterly profits. They are higher than any other hardware company. Hell, they are even higher than Intel's and they make the CPUs that power their computers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Wizard Knight:
When I worked at radio Shack, we'd sell an ipod for $249.99 and the store cost on them was $249.00. But we'd push the case, the headphones, screen protector. All that stuff has an 80% profit margin.

The iphone is the "it" thing right now and apple can make sprint pay retail because if they don't, Verizon and att already are.

The business plan is to take the loss on the hardware and make it up on the accessories. As far as sprint is concerned, the iphone is just bait to get people into the stores... Once there, sell them the bluetooth, case, screen guard, car charger, and lock them into 2 years.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Wizard Knight:
Ipod and iphone accessories were the first product line in history to generate as much profit as the main hardware they are sold for. A single iphone owner, over the course of 2 years, will buy 8-15 cases alone... Because they're a fashion statement. At $25 a pop, you see where that adds up. I got those numbers in training at radio Shack in 2009. I wouldn't be surprised if its more now
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bear gri11z:
8-15 cases?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? i wanna see a pie chart and earning statements that supports overkill like that!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Not buying it, as their ETF pretty much covers them for the subsidizing they already did. It is a win win for them. They lock you into two years, have you pay for the device outright in case of early term, and make their profit for 13/24 months. It isn't just isolated to the iPhone, all carriers do that with phones. We should be happy Sprint has the iphone so that it can draw new subscribers to help pump some cash into sprint to keep up with the big boys.

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That is for the subsidized costs, not the full cost of the phone, otherwise I agree as my friends have gone through about 5 cases with their IP4 and that has been out what like a year?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] quick99si:
I prefer this article on the same topic, by CNN Money: http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/08/technology/iphone_carrier_subsidy/?source=cnn_bin

And the the guys looking to troll on iPhone forums, grow up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] EL TEJANO:
Good article. If they think it's bad now just wait till the iPhone 5 &/or iPad 3 come out.

Why not just sell the phone at full price but include it as part of your monthly service payment until the phone is paid in full & then from there fall back to the pricing of the service plan alone? Or offer a discounted service rate for those that pay full price on a phone?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] abhaxus:
Dan Hesse has already said in an interview that the iPhone results in fewer calls to customer care. When a customer comes and asks for an iPhone, I tell them the truth. The iPhone is 3g, has worse signal quality than most of our other devices, has a small screen, is easy to damage, and doesn't have a good free option for navigation. Then I usually sell it. When people come back to complain about it, I remind them of everything I said and direct them to Apple. It's called setting expectations. The iPhone is a **** device, but Apple support is great.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] quick99si:
I suspect because it would likely be a monumental task to market that entirely new pricing structure. It would represent a huge change from the current business model, one that is deeply engraved into the consumer's spending habits and provider's business operations, and it may pose a large risk to the pioneering carrier.

I agree, however, that phones should be purchased separately from the wireless plans to limit the obfuscation in pricing for both. Right now, we're basically paying a large markup on the plan price for nothing once we fulfill our contract (the built-in phone subsidy).. so why don't I get $10-20 off a month after 2 years passes and the subsidy is fully recouped?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Why would they do that? Their true concern is themselves not the consumer. That is across the board and part of the bending over we have allowed from the carriers, at least stateside.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hellgod77:
but the carriers coulda

not offered it at a subsized price but made it work on the network so if you want a iphone you call apple and make a deal with them to purchase and leave the carrier out of it, then there is no ore carrier issue kinda like making one work on tmobile they know it happens they dont care because they didnt sell it to you basicaly just make ppl buy it retail and no contract forced to do this sprint would have still sold alot of iphones based on ppl hate data caps
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] abhaxus:
Considering how many morons that come in saying they are eligible for a free phone, and get upset when they don't get 150 off the upgrade price on the iPhone, I think you guys are giving consumers too much credit.

I've also had European customers get pissed when I show them the best phone we have and it's 200 bucks. They act like I am insulting them because they don't understand our system.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Hatchett:
I hate Apple. That is all.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amritpal2489:
Hey guys,

Can anybody tell me which is the best custom ICS n Gingerbread rom for my Galaxy S II I9100???
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariosraptor:
there isn't any because there is no Official ICS Build for our SGS2.

just try what already exist of custom ics roms and choose on your own.

GB i use Wanam's 8.1 Wanamlite
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amritpal2489:
official was only for GB...

Which ICS rom is best??
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaze105:
Best way to tell is if you try them all. Its a matter of personal preference and depends on each phone. One rom may work better on your phone compared to someone elses phone.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
None and which is the best rom posts are banned on here .

read the details for each rom but really if you have to ask stick with GB why flash a beta buggy test rom when you dont know what you are doing .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amritpal2489:
Ooopss,... I dint know that...

I am thinking of installing MIUI v4 Fresh 2.2.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
Hello. I'm just using the AndyX Rom 5.1 including the first update. It REALLLY works like a charm ;) (close to) no lags, (close to) no bugs, and fast. For me the first decission.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neonlazer:
Agreed! Installed it yesterday..has a good battery life(compared to CM9 when i had it) and no crashing! :D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
yep! i also switched 2 days before from the ICS REMIX ROM which is also nice. It is really depressing that there is still no real kernel for it :( hope gokharnomal will publish a kernel for ICS soon :| :)

cheers!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheFaixy:
dont want to make a new thread but can anyone answer hyperdroid or checkrom which has less bugs?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
hi, how do you mean that? i already checked out checkrom but... well wasnt the best thing i did see. But its not bad!! It's smooth and he published a kitchen for his rom, which is very usefull.

cheers
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheFaixy:
i want performance + no fc will be good if checkrom has those 2 things
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
well. im using the AndyX Rom 5.1 ... and its ICS (which is awsome) and it runs really smooth and there are no forcecloses. (except some in Google Chrome.)

cheers
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manoj143:
Hi..using westcrip's resurrection ics...great job really...its stable..no fc..gud battery life...and almost everything is functioning...using as a daily rom now...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
yeah. used it before AndyX. its also really nice. But AndyX's one is a little bit smoother in my opinion.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheFaixy:
thanx for reply guys but i am not thinking of switching to ics untill ics ROMs are themed better and sources are out :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
hmm. yeah. just wait 20 days and the official ICS by Samsung will arrive. Hope it will be good enough for u, cause of TouchWiz (dont know if u like it).

cheers.

p.s.: Could i steal ur ░█░ [Phone] Samsung Galaxy S2 i9100 ░█░

░█░ [ROM] Omega v10.3 Stock ░█░

░█░ [Kernel] Siyah v2.6.12 ░█░

░█░ [PDA] I9100XWKL1 ░█░

░█░ [Theme] ICS DOMINATION v1.9 ░█░ :))))) really like this ;)

cecya!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheFaixy:
I like tw but compared to Ics launcher not that good and ya be my guest you can use it :-)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
yep. the stock one is really cool. and, thanks alot ;)

btw.. where to add it? ;) always write it under the post, or... :)

cheers
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chakuza1983:
Hi guys!

I use the Deep Core v3! It runs really great and is stable, the battery life is also very long! Tests she has since she is out!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
Hi. could u post a link to this rom? ;) dunno whether ill try it. maybe! :)

cheers.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Android spin off Google has created az new tool its called a search engine its still beta but you should give it a try . XDA has similar tool i believe .

http://www.google.co.uk/search?clie..._upl=2809l2809l0l3804l1l1l0l0l0l0l87l87l1l1l0

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
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ty. and what exactly does it search for?

cheers

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Hmm maybe ill try it out. dunno. your experience? battery? speed? tell me more pls ;)

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hmm. seems that 3G doesnt work so far. there are also many other ppl who got this problem.

cheers
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
I never use beta roms and am not going to use a leaked beta buggy ICS rom .

That sort of cutting edge testing is only for noobs .

jje
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheFaixy:
user cp>> edit signature
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
thanks!

cheers
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snOwjAwk:
and for guys which cant wait at all. (like me :D)

cheers
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] yomiguy:
hi people,maybe you know it maybe not but as soon as i discovered it i wanted to share it with u!! a few days ago reading general threads of xda page ,not this specific for minis, i read there is an app called Box for massive storage on the cloud which has access too from the computer,like the well known dropbox... but this thread i read said that instead of having only 2 or 5 gb of storage as its common with this apps if u are owner of xperia phone Box gives u 50gb!!!

as soon. as i read those wonderful news i looked for this app in market but i couldnt find it,so i looked for it with the computer and it said our x10 mini is not compatible, so i managed to look an apk of this wonderful app anf check if its compatible or not (here i must say i dont know if i can say where i downloaded the app because despite i think the original one is free app i dont want to mention any page or spam which can. goes against the rules of this cool page xda;) ).

the fact is that i coul install the apk in my mini!! :) when u have it installed u just have to register introducing an email and password, after that it will recognise ur phone as se xperia and automatically will upgrade ur storage from 5 to 50 gb!!! amazing!! isnt it?

once more we are fortunate of being owners of this wonderful phone!! ;)

oh!! to access your account from computer u have to go to www.box.net and then login with same data of registration u did previously.

i remember the name of the app... BOX... look for it in market, i couldnt dwonloaded it from there, if u cant just look for it on the web, ull find it!!

i hope u can enjoy soon ur 50 gb account!! :)

if i was helpful say thx if u want! ;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Ticklefish:
A good place to get the app from is this thread here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1393380

:cool:
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] yomiguy:
ohh!! good job!! man!! I didn't know exactly how is the policy about sharing apps or apks, and I didn't want to break any rule, just sharing my good experience with Box.

So people, you now have the app thanks to ticklefish and the instructions... those who don't have this big amount of storage yet go for it! :cool:
[Nook Color General] bobstro:
Great info, and sure to be helpful to many. Here are a some suggestions:

A description of CM versions might be helpful, linking CM versions to Android versions.

CM 7.1 is the latest stable. You might mention nightlies, and the 7.2 RC0 Mirage release.

No mention of ICS? With all the buzz lately, I'd definitely include it in the list of Android versions, and mention it with CM9.

I think there are

three

choices:

Root stock B&N firmware.

Dual-boot with CM (or similar) on SD (external).

Over-write eMMC (internal) with CM (or similar).

I see a lot of confusion between these, and a lot of misconception that you have to root stock before loading either of the other options.

Was the NOOK color originally shipped with Eclair? I thought they were Froyo from day one. I know a lot of us were disappointed when B&N 1.4.1 shipped as Froyo.
[Nook Color General] bachon:
Thanks for the feedback. Remember, this is Nook 101, not 201. I didn't want to provide so much info that it left folks feeling overwhelmed. I suggested they begin with CM7.0. I mentioned CM7.1 and CM7.2. This sucker is already long. I had to narrow the focus to keep from turning it into a novel.

ICS is Ice Cream Sandwich, isn't it? I mentioned that CM9 is under development, but I'm pretty sure nubes should not start with that. Besides, my understanding is that it is still very much in the RC testing phase. Isn't that right?

I said there were two approaches. But I said some MODs allow for dual booting. Again, I didn't want to overwhelm.

I read in two different places (not on XDA) that Eclair was the original OS for the Nook. I think they began to push Froyo in the Fall of 2011.

You will also note that I did not cover the various models of the Nook at all. And I didn't mention the change in the hardware of Nook Color that has happened in the past two or three months. I didn't feel qualified to explain those. I'm still a relative nube myself.

BO
[Nook Color General] Anniraff:
First, thanks for all the hard work with the words. I saw your initial posts and can only figure you are a writer, to be so willing to set everything you have done down in an orderly manner.

I'd like to add a fourth choice to bobstro's list of possibles (and I am not so adept at all this Nooker stuff myself that I believe it is too much for beginners):

Triple boot using Racks' great info and files here in the developer's wing. That way a learner can get a very stable CM7 GB (Kang build) a working - and for an "in process" ROM - quite stable CM9 (ICS) both on one SD card, and still have an untouched B&N stock on their NC.

Believe me; it's not too hard to set up; it has the best of all worlds. And it increases the fun factor by a million!