yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
you can install a new rom now - which one did you have before ?

i can give you the download location and how it is done ...
[Kindle Fire General] Dakdak234:
Like i mentioned before, i didnt set it up. I cant tell you what rom was downloaded but i do remember some programs that ive seen before in guides?? There were like the golauncher and other "go" programs... if that doesnt stand out to any specific one i believe there were some cryogen (or however its spelled) stuff on it... i know it was set up just like his verizon phone
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
then i would think it it was cm7 - download from here: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?hmdc0lmgvnlbg97

this is the update version - i would try this one first so you should not loose anything

- boot into twrp

- now you should see the kf on your computer

- copy the downloaded file on the kf

- tap install

- select the file and install

try this first
[Kindle Fire General] Dakdak234:
Okay thank you. Is it okay if i PM you if something goes wrong? You seem to know alot about this
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
ok - just pm me if you need further help

good luck !
[Kindle Fire General] carpark:
boots to TWRP

I'm also stuck booting only to TWRP. I have the driver installed fine (my computer recognizes the Kindle as an Android)

I'm trying to install cyanogenmod and thought I had moved the files to sd but when I try to backup, TWRP says it failed to mount /sdcard

When I try to install, no files show up in /sdcard

So I'm at a loss as to how to move further. If I try to transfer files to the Kindle by mounting it as a drive, Windows 7 tells me I must format the drive first. Is that safe to do? Anyone know what's up?
[Kindle Fire General] veeman:
Don't format.
[Kindle Fire General] soupmagnet:
If your sdcard won't mount in TWRP something got screwed up and you'll most likely have to format it. Needless to say, by formatting your sdcard, anything on it will be "lost". Luckily, the data isn't overwritten so it is still possible to retrieve it in some form or another (you may have to do a little research first).

If you need to mount your sdcard manually, you can enter the following command:

adb shell
echo /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file

Format your sdcard with FAT32, block size 4096.

After that, your sdcard should mount with no problem and you can then push files to it.
[Kindle Fire General] mspallz:
everytime u boot ur kindle fire, does it go into twrp??if yes let it go to twrp,onnect it to pc and run cmd...i hope u have set up adb...

first for ur ease, set system path to location where adb.exe is located..(how??right click on my computer>>properties>>advanced system settings>>environmental variables>>system variables box>path>>edit...copy the path of adb.exe and paste it after a semicolon in last..click ok n exit)

in cmd type

fastboot devices

if there is some device found type this in:

fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000

fastboot reboot

ur kindle fire boots into normal mode..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
So going over the thread about the GPS and opening their Prime to get the antenna working, I thought of something and gave it a whack....

I had a sudden thought.... what *if* I tried to turn on my google map on my phone (HTC Touch Cruise) knowing it can get a fix indoors and placed my phone where the Prime's antenna is located.... what would happen.

Well, it worked. I got 8 fixed (6-7 steady) once my phone's GPS antenna got a lock of only 4.

make sure you phone (or whatever you're using to get gps sats) is warmed up and has found some sats then place it over your Prime's GPS antenna is located (if you have to ask where, this is not for you) and try it out. this is just a cheating work around and not exactly a *fix* but in a pinch and you want to leverage the tablet's bigger screen for google map or nav, here you go...

*EDIT*: let me add, you don't have to use google maps. any gps tester would also work. we just want to activate the GPS on the phone so google maps is the easiest but there are other apps out there that can do the trick. if you're on an android phone, gps test would work. WinMo has an app too (i have it somewhere) that tests GPS for the phone as well.

EDIT: for a better explanation, see post #11: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22458668&postcount=11
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Doktaphex:
your thread makes absolutely no sense. Of course you can tether, why are you talking about putting the tethered antenna over the top of the internal antenna? I can only assume that English is not your first language and that you're using the wrong phrasing.

Either that, or you're an idiot, I tend to look at the first answer. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flub:
This has gotta be a joke right ??

Why the Hell would you do that ? If you got a bluetooth GPS device connect the Fecker to the Prime not hold it where the primes antenna is .

This has gotta be a classic I can't wait for the pics LMFAO
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
can the prime multi-tether? i bluetooth share my internet connection on my phone so I can't connect anything else to my phone via bluetooth (like radio). ie: I can't listen to music from my phone in my truck via bluetooth to the radio AND share my internet connection via bluetooth with the prime. one or the other.

thought bluetooth can only link to one device at a time?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pyro6128:
use gps tether on your phone and prime

/thread
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rand4ll:
You can connect multiple devices to one bluetooth controller and use them concurrently, they just need different addresses
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
did not know that. thanks!

and so this is where the confusion came in.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Doktaphex:
BRILLIANT......
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] stretchwookie:
is there a ban for these kind of posts? i hope so, cuz now im inb4it :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Nefariouss:
Why do you people have to be such dicks all the time. Ignore it and move on if you don't like the thread. Nobody wants to read all the retarded lol inb4ban haha u r retarded ****.

I believe he's just saying his prime could pull the sat signals easier when his phone had a solid GPS signal and placing his phone over his primes GPS antenna. While GPS over Bluetooth would be a better option this doesn't hurt anyone information wise.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
OP might not know what he is doing but he is 10000 % right about the phenomenon

OP might not know what he is doing but he is 10000 % right about the phenomenon.

Because all the experts were flaming him and calling him a retard I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt and imitate his actions.

I haven't seen one satellite with my Prime for weeks. I tried everything but taking it apart. I've left it for days on end in clear view of the southern sky (inside, outside, night and day, clear sky and overcast)

Today it was a heavy overcast day.

Test 1:

I placed the Prime flat on its back in front of the window (inside) and the phone next to it.

Result: 11 sats on my HTC sensation and as usual no sats on my Prime (pic 1)

Test 2:

Without moving the Prime I placed the phone on the area above the GPS antenna of the prime

Result: The HTC drops to 5 or 4 sats and the Prime suddenly sees up to 13 sats (pic 2a , 2b)

Test 3:

Without moving the Prime I remove the phone and place it next to the prime

Result: The HTC gets 8 sats again and the Prime drops down to 3 sats (pic 3). And gradually in time the Prime drops more and more sats until the effect is gone.

I couldn’t believe my eyes.

There is something very very very strange going on here. It must be some electromagnetic or static field that is killing the Prime’s GPS. The field even kills the HTC’s gps because if you fiddle around a bit with the location on the Prime the HTC drops down to 2 or 3 sats with hardly any reception.

The Prime isn’t equipped with a GPS but with a GPS-killer.

And apparently if field conditions are changed by an external source the Prime has a GPS that can see just as much sats as any other. No matter what sort of back plate it has.

And let this be a lesson for all you so called expert. If someone tells you he has experienced something. Don’t call names and flame. And don’t discard until you are a hundred percent certain that he is wrong. In the old days you would get burned if you said the earth is round ;-)

I will see if it is worth opening a new thread about this phenomenon
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
thank you!!

yeah, i wasn't exactly very clear as to what I was saying plus I didn't get to post any pics to back up what I was trying to explain.

I think the way the Prime is built (or the material used) is killing the signals. if you place the phone UNDER the Prime, you'll see a big drop in sat signals too.

I tried this because I can't open my prime and I also don't have the plastic tools to do it right (tried using a Swiss Army knife but I stopped short knowing it'll chip the glass)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] markimar:
Lol huh? How would placing a device that was totally separate from the prime next to it make the signal strength change? Aren't GPS receivers passive? This is bizzare... wish I had an EMF detector... wait that's ghost adventures....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
To Chivas228. You might wanna change the name of the thread so it attracts the right attention. We need antenna or shielding experts to have a look at this information. Maybe change it to: 'GPS fixed with phone' or something like that. And edit the first post refering to my post and pictures.

---------- Post added at 09:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:31 PM ----------

It sounds crazy and it probably is. Seeing is believing. Just try it. Will take you five minutes.

Maybe the phone's GPS distorts the field around the Prime's GPS enough to open a window. Also I read in some posts about parasitical antennas. Maybe this is due to that phenomenon.

I dunno but it works.

All credit to the OP for doing something crazy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] stretchwookie:
callig people names while trying to stick up for someone else isnt being the bigger man. you, too, could have handled that differently.

so i decided to try this, even though i didnt believe it would work. i tried my phone every which way on my prime, even on the back and i still only get the 1-2 satellites as normal.

also, you arent supposed to be on wifi while testing this sort of thing, but both your tablet and phone are. you are supposed to turn off wifi, turn on gps, power cycle both devices, then test.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flub:
What the hells gone on with XDA ?

What the op was actually suggesting as a fix for gps was to get a bluetooth gps device & hold it where primes antenna is, He wasn't pointing out a phenomenon

quote from op

It is an absurd idea

I have seen people flamed far worse for far less

Me personally I have bluetooth gps receiver & if i was gonna use it I would connect it via bluetooth
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
I get the impression that nobody takes the time for reading a whole thread.

And as in current society when whe don't understand it we flame them

Just try it

Has nothing to do with BT but with another GPS being close to the Prime's GPS antenna.

Next is optional.

Not necessary but for the non-believers that think the gps-data comes from some other source.

To make sure nothing else is corruptin or giving you the locational data.

Turn of GPS, wifi, BT, cellular data, google locations on both your phone and the Prime.

Do a power cycle on both.

Start up your phone's GPS with GPS test or something.

Start up your Prime's GPS with GPS test or something.

Put the phone and the Prime next to each other in front of a window with view of some sky.

In my case no sats on the Prime and 11 sats on the phone.

Then put the phone on the screen of the Prime on top of the GPS antenna (right hand top corner, see pics earlier post).

And ............ wait for about ten minutes (max).

And magicly the Prime gets a fix on more and more sats.

I got a max of 13 satalites from behind a double glazed window on a heavy overcast (snowy) evening.

So just try it.

Or call me and the OP names and flame us.

Or even better Burn us witches at the stake ;-)

Oh sorry. I forgot. We are civilised nowadays

Just try it.

---------- Post added at 11:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ----------

did as you stated.

See previous post.

Same result

12 sats
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
This is crazy!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
I can partially confirm this.

After testing this myth I found out the following:

Prime signal quality doesn't improve a lot for me, but it actually does improve

Signal quality of my Desire HD drops dramatically once it lies on the Prime

Everything can be repeated as often as you want

This is really strange.The Prime is getting more and more mysterious....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
Did you try it?

Or are you just a disbeliever?

:-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkey10120:
Tried it with my D inc which had 9 sats next to prime and 5 on it. And prime went from 0 to 6 sats
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Chemas:
what happens if you put your phone on the Prime with GPS OFF?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] green750one:
Mmm. Perhaps it's a phone thing. Tried it with my Dell Streak & got zip. Left it for over 20 mins & the steak was showing between 11&13 satellites. Prime not a sausage.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jimh1943:
I used a Blackberry - on the Prime I usually get on avg 12 birds indoors and today no exception. BB on and gps running or off - made no diff but I did see an improvement in the signal strength for the birds on the Prime. The BB was showing 8 sats with an avg signal of 29 db away from the Prime or laying over the Prime's gps antenna area. If I place the BB under the Prime it's sats drop to 19 db. But even as interesting --- on several occasions with the BB turned on --when I placed the BB over the Prime's gps antenna area, the Prime went to sleep !! black screen and all! I had to tap the power button to wake it up again. This was not a fluke as I was able to repeat it several times.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
This is some weird **** we really need an digital communications engineer or something.... That's really odd...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] taylorgrandorf:
My understanding was that the BlackBerrys have magnets to trigger standby with the Blackberry pouch, maybe the prime has a sensor too?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
Advice taken. Thanks again!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jimh1943:
You are probably right -- I waved the BB's case (which has a magnet) over the Prime's gps antenna are and it went to sleep. Now we know another way to put our babies to bed!!!! Just wave a magnet over their heads!!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] k0nster:
I was just reading this while talking to my friend on the phone. I started up the GPS test and placed my iphone(in call) on my prime and it works!! holy crap. Told my friend Ill call him back so I could do some more test. When i hung up all the sat went away. =/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scooper:
OP, nice job!

My Prime got two sats in view at most and never locked outdoor. Just tried that trick in my bedroom and I got max 11 in view and 8 locked. Put on the other side of the Prime and still got a few things going, not as strong. Intermittent locking. Put the phone back where the antenna is, turned off the GPS on the phone, and GPS on the Prime still going but not strong and did lock once in a while. So just having the phone by without GPS on, it did something.

I always thought that if ASUS was to slap that backplate on, they must have found some way to overcome that. Whatever it was, still have to be improved so that it works properly with all the Primes and not just some.

Wonder if having the phone by the Prime, the Wi-Fi will work properly without me hitting the sweet spots in the house. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
want to know what's even more crazy? I tried this over and over and each time, as soon as I put my phone UNDER the Prime, ZERO (0) signal (yet the phone still gets some, albeit 1 or 3 less). The TC does not have the nice SnarfIII or whatever they call it GPS chip but still gets pretty good reception and functionality (sure beats the HTC Diamond!).

It's something to do with the rear casing I think.

Now... *IF* the GPS antenna was to be under the black (glass) bezel instead of being all the way in the rear (near the rear shell), would this make a difference?

I have a BBOKA Prime (I guess one of the very first??) and my wifi works just fine (except the Netgear router at my uncle's place yet my place has a different Netgear... whatever, new thread on that), just my GPS blows.

The rear casing definitely does something to the signal but how can it be *that* dramatic?

Not going to open my prime up until I either:

1: get an RMA and have Asus look it over and maybe fix my pogo pin(s)

2: i get a big middle finger from Asus which by default, I would just open and solder in new wire and run it all over the place in the rear making a snake like pattern because, hell, what hurt can that really do? lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hogwilson:
OP, nice job! (ditto) :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
I am getting the impression that the Prime's wifi is somehow killing the GPS.

If you turn wifi off and then boost the GPS with a GPS Phone.

Then if you remove the phone the Prime can keep the sats.

But when you do the same with the Primes wifi on it seems like the sats die down faster like the wifi is smuthering it.

Anyone that has opened his Prime think there is a possibility of relocating the GPS antenna elsewhere in the Prime away from the wifi and maybe adding some extra shielding?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] green750one:
You guys that have this happening, have you recreated gps.conf?

Missing on my Prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wbwjr:
This is really strange. Works with Droid Razr as well
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HTCuser111:
My theory...

From what little I know, placing the phone on the gps antenna area probably creates an electromagnetic coupling which probably shares the signal collected by the phone's antenna when the respective antennas are in close proximity to each other. Coils in close proximity to each other is how we get power from the power lines into our houses. There is not a direct connection there. When I read the OP it totally seemed plausible in theory. I really want one of these tablets but will wait for ASUS to get their act together.... waiting patiently in the wings.... not going to pay the early adopter tax on this one! :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Nickedynick:
Exactly my first thought on this. If this is the case then that coupling could easily be diminished by the aluminium cover, hence it not working with the phone underneath the tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] AWhistler:
Verified on my TFP with DroidX

My devices are not coupled through BT and WiFi was off on the DroidX (but on on the TFP). Placing the DroidX in proximity to the TFP while both were searching for GPS lock caused the TFP to lock in with 4/6 up to 7/9 satellites. The results were better with the phone on top of the TFP. Interestingly, the DroidX never locked on even with a constellation of 9 visible. With the phone 2 feet away, the TFP lost visibility to all satellites after about 10 seconds.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lennie paz:
I just picked up a TFP 32GB on Saturday. The serial # starts with C10K, so it's one of the newer ones right? I can't get a lock on the GPS no matter what I try. I tried this method with my iPhone and still nothing. I am updated to the latest firmware by the way.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wbwjr:
Mine has a C10K serial number as well. GPS doesn't work (without coupling the phone) and wifi is abysmal (worse after the update to .13).

Returning to Staples tomorrow.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lennie paz:
Are your intentions to get a refund,or get a replacement? I knew going in that there was a GPS problem so I think I will keep mine. I bought mine from Staples also, but my WiFi seems pretty good. I have a cheap router and get as good a signal as my iPhone in different parts of the house.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rap6388:
spatula worked too

I know this sounds crazy. I am not super technical and my prime seems to work fine with exception GPS and some minor WiFi issues. I tried the phone trick in my home and it worked. I then wanted to see if it was phone or some kind of interference issue. My prime is in a caseen case. It has a magnet in the case to keep cover closed.I turned on GPS and no satellite picked up.. I then layer a metal spatula over the magnet ( yes you read that correctly) and within 12 seconds i was locked on 7 s satellites within 72 feet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Weird as hell! So we could just stick a magnet in the dock or something or in a case and it would make a magnetic field!

I am wondering if the internal compass has something to do with this... Could you try it again but this time with elixir 2 test running on the magnetic sensor and see if you get some funny readings
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Opps Wtf happened here?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] k0nster:
Try calling someone and then place your phone on your tablet. It worked that way for me. Have to be in the middle of a call for it to want to work.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wbwjr:
Going for a refund. They are hard to find at Staples and I really don't think another unit will be any better.. Looks like Ipad may be the way to go.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lennie paz:
The wife has an iPad. I like my TFP much better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] VoltageNZ:
Cant say I've been able to replicate your results on my prime with my phone. Phone gets 8 sats, prime gets none. Its pretty overcast at the moment. (using the same gps test app as yourself)

Oddly, with wifi off google maps figures out my location with pretty descent accuracy.

Strange....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] husenicaa:
Tried 3 scenarios mentioned in this tread.

1. Phone with the GPS on (HTC touch HD) placed on top of transformer right top corner.

2. Phone without the GPS (some old Motorola) placed on top of transformer right top corner.

3. Small magnet f(from fridge) placed on back of transformer right top corner.

In all 3 cases transormer was able to lock. Best results achived with the magnet.