yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android SD Development] poyensa:
oh no, thanks to wis, robbie & xylograph and securecert. NativeSD is very good news for we WM users, we can have now android roms in SD at the same level of nand-roms. Enjoy!

Edit:

1) There is like 5 recovery files. What is the difference between them and which one should I go for? go for recovery_4EXT2.2.7_leo_sd.zip

2) Find the roms here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1817793 and any other [nativeSD] titled thread ....
[HD2 Android SD Development] yoboy:
Thanks Poyensa, and wis, and robbie, and xylograph and securecert.. Will give this a try and let you know how it goes :good:
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
Anyone?
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
see http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31444112&postcount=498
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
I've already seen that but that's something different - I would like to know how can I choose ROM to run when I'm still on WM 6.5. I mean, I'm on WM 6.5 and want to start Android ROM #2 (previous used ROM was Android ROM #1) directly from WM... Is it possible?

And don't know how to uninstall one of those ROM's, I have right now? Also, how to update on some new version.

Anyway, thanks for previous answer.

To be precise - I've installed AOKP and PA 2.00 and I want to remove (uninstall) one of them but don't know how...
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
I will be completety honest with you, I don't use my hd2 any more from day to day so I can't really answer you question fully. I am sure someone has the answer:)

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Just to let you lovely people know xylo has released a new cm7 native SD ROM on nand thread:)looks good
[HD2 Android SD Development] hboyer:
use/download nativesdboot app from parent thread in nand section.

there is an option for deleting in the latest version.

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from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31503021

[13 SEP 2012][DEV]NativeSD Rom Boot Script for HD2
[HD2 Android SD Development] yoboy:
So, I've successfully installed NativeSD, thanks to you guys. I used the Paranoid Android - AOKP - Sourcery [NativeSD] ROM, but not very excited about it.. It lags in my phone.. The sorcery Alpha 1 rom that I used to run from my SD works faster than this.. Gonna try a different NativeSD ROM now.. Anyone has any recommendations on which NativeSD rom I should try next? :cowboy:
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
I can't install this app because it says I don't have enough space and I have to free some space, and on this ROM I don't have anything to uninstall - everything is on previous one I can't even boot, because every time this "empty" ROM boot!!!

And I cant resize ext4 partition (make it bigger) because I can't see it in Mini Tool Partition Wizard I've used before, because I can't see that partition - I just can see fat32 partition...

So what should I do with problem like this?
[HD2 Android SD Development] hboyer:
are you familiar with adb shell commands?

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or. do you have a file manager with root explorer features installed?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
To change roms

goto native sd folder on sd card

goto folder that you want to boot to eg PA

copy initrd.gz and zImage

goto native sd folder and paste (overwrite) the initrd and zimage

press clrcad and haret
[HD2 Android SD Development] poyensa:
If you are having problems with the ROM very laggy, slow download from market, slow importing contact from sim, etc, it is time to get a new SD. Really it worth it! I had the same experience and really changed when I got a simple new 4gb class 4 SD. Now I am flying on nativedSD ROMs.

Time to try GB on nativeSD :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] yoboy:
Hi Poyensa,

This is the card that I am currently using (bought from this exact page) --> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003WIRFD2/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00

Can you tell if it is any good? I would gladly get a new card it this is what's causing the lag. Can you suggest me a good card to get? And, what's a GB?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
Yes, that works!

Thanks a lot!
[HD2 Android SD Development] poyensa:
There os no a simple answer to SD questions i am afraid. There is a very interesting discussion about in nativeSD thread starting here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31563805#post31563805

Ps.- GB is the new nativeSD rom just published by Xylo ... it flies! !!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
I've always used sandisk. I know that in wp7 a particular make and class of card would work for some ppl and not for others. The class rating is for sequential read/write speeds only and is not really useful for finding out random access performance, which is mainly how our sd cards are used in native sd (and wp7).

I have read that class 4 or possibly 6 speed is the limit that our hd2 can handle.
[HD2 Android SD Development] yoboy:
I'd love to give it a try.. Does 'GB' actually stand for something? Having a tough time locating this ROM.. Oh wait.. Found something.. Is this the one? --> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1888633

I'm going to a computer fair now and gonna hunt for a good class 4 Sandisk SD card.. Do you know if the size of the card influence the ROM speed? I used 16GB Kingston Class 4 SD card, with 2GB EXT4 partition.. Using AOKP Leo ROM now, but the ROM performance (and the other NativeSD ROMs prior to this) is very much similar to my usual non-NativeSD ROMs.. I'm thinking it might have something to do with my card, or the make, or the size..
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
To GB or not to GB

GB ROM is GingerBread - Android name tea food alphabetically - the one after was Honeycomb for tablets and then Ice Cream Sandwich. Latest is JellyBean.

For gb as in gigabytes, read this thread starting here (particularly my posts he says modestly)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1150369&page=57

Format your existing card using SD Formatter for SDHC and the ext4 partition a second time using the NativeSD ext4 Recovery tool.

Cheers

Tom

Edited for clarity
[HD2 Android SD Development] pakure:
correction: honeycomb (3.0) is after GB(2.3), but it was actually only for tablets, but custom roms with fatures of honeycomb have been ported to phones
[HD2 Android SD Development] gazzacbr:
haha, that fooled me for a second, until i remembered seeing the thread.

i think it was the "new" that did it.

how about "newly recycled"? ;)

but true, firing up an SD version of GB (Gingerbread), it is amazing how fast it is - :( or :) and on ext4 i am sure it really flies.

slightly off topic but,

i loaded up a CM9 nand and the same SD on ext4 and restored all my apps and they are about the same speed.

difference was, i couldnt actually reload ALL my apps as the nand run out of space, oh, wait a minute, thats why i gave up using the nand versions...

bottom line now is i am now frustrated at how 'slaggy' this Sourcery is as a FAT32 SD only build.

so nand and ext4? well, that does now lock us to the SD card, hmmm, is Micro$oft on to something with WP7?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Getrid:
MicroSDHC benchmark tests

Hello yoboy,

this is a link to a MicroSDHC card test by a reputable German computer journal. I'm using no. 8 and it's really fast with NativeSD. I also made personel benchmark with CrystalDiskMark which confirmed the prior test by the journal.

http://www.chip.de/bestenlisten/Bestenliste-microSDHC-Karten--index/detail/id/867/

Best regards

Getrid …
[HD2 Android SD Development] yoboy:
Awesome.. Do you know if Class 10 works with HD2? I went to a local computer fair here and they only have class 4 and class 10 cards.. I already have a Class 4 kingston card.. But since I wasn't sure if Class 10 works with HD2, I grabbed another 16GB Class 4, but this time from Sandisk.. Came back home and tried with GB rom - Oh boy it flies! I wish there's an ICS rom out there that performs like the GB rom does.. Feels a little awkward going back to gingerbread after being accustomed to ICS..
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi yoboy,

I have a 8 GB Sandisk SD HD Card, class ??, which works perfectly with the Android SD Card AOKP JB Alpha 2 version. Very smooth and fast. Personally I think that the kind/class of SD Card does not matter so much, but the maintenaince does. Whenever your battery drainage is more than usual or you expect, format your SD card and it will work again as it should (BTW, I think that Windows SD formatting tool is much, much better than SD Formatting tool, although Windows one it takes a lot of time). At least that is my personal opinion!!

BTW, my Sandisk 8 GB card is certainly not very new, but does the job perfectly.

Edit: I also managed to install the NativeSD ROM on this very same SD Card :victory:

very best regards, Kuziibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Getrid:
Hello yoboy,

as Robbie P mentioned a few posts earlier: regarding NativeSD it's all about access performance, not random read/write time. So the class of any MicroSDHC card doesn't matter that much - but it still counts if copying large files. Class 10 cards work with Leo but they are not mandatory faster than cards of different classes. The table I linked to in my last post shows every figure for the tested cards, so if you provide the money the SanDisk card on rank 1 or the Adata card on rank 4 would be best. (Hey, I see that they updated the table. My card is now on rank 5.) But I think your new card is doing its job pretty well now, isn't it?

Best regards

Getrid …

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Hello Kuzibri,

I read your post a few days ago but totally forgot to reply to it. So if you want to give NativeSD another shot may I advice you to go to settings/developers options/window animation: turn that off, also turn off transition animation and set animator time scale to 1x. With these parameters my NativeSD build shows no transition lags.

Best regards

Getrid …
[HD2 Android SD Development] arungk2:
deleting rom in native sd

guys everybody has favs but we still want to try so many roms :cool:

that is the spirit of xda :good:

but please guide as to how to remove a native sd rom once there is newer version or if you are running short of space on your sd and cant buy new one:confused:
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Try this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31503021
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi Getrid,

thanks for your advices, but it wasn't only the transitions lags that decided me to go back to Alpha2. It was the general performance of Alpha2 which did that for/to me. I prefer Alpha2 above the NativeSD one, but- as always - that's a personal choice. Alpha2 is just what I need and want :)

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Rename the rom you want to install into ROM.zip and copy it to the root dir of your sd card.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
NativeSD

The answer I would give to yoboy is flash the ROM.zip using Recovery.

If you want to flash a NativeSD version of one of these ROM using MAGLDR then read this thread:

HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android Q&A and General > NativeSD Rom+EXT4 for New Users with peechurs

For WP7 c1cl0n has posted a step-by-step guide and video for "3in1 [WPH7 + ICS SD + ICS NativeSD] on Your HTC LEO" in the thread [REF] Tutorial: How to partition sd card to run wp7 and android from same sd card

For WM wis1152 has posted Native sd instructions

Bottom line: there are different methods - take care to use the right one.

Cheers

Tom
[HD2 Android SD Development] yoboy:
I've got GB NativeSD rom running on my 16GB Class 4 Sandisk microsd, and I have to admit, I have never seen anything as fast as this on my HD2.. But I do miss some softkeys that aren't available in this rom, like the power button softkey and slide to answer call, among some other things.. NativeSD is truly awesome.. Just when I thought my HD2 has seen it all, I'm wrong again. Looks like I'm not in a rush to get an S3.. You guys are awesome :cowboy:
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Yes you can!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Getrid:
Hi Kuzibri,

this is what I can truly understand. Had it not been for me being eager to thoroughly clean my whole SD card and freshly install Artemis 70.0, I would'nt have skipped to NativeSD for a while since my previous build (JBAokp_leo_beta_n2408) was performing so well. Although all my reading about NativeSD kept me getting more and more curious about the topic itself. :cyclops:

Best regards

Getrid …
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Has anyone a solution for the MyPhoneExplorer issue? The PhoneExplorer can't connected over USB cable. I get the message "connection to mobile coud't established".

HD2 with NativeSD aokp_leo_nightly_0409 and haret (WM6.5)

USB debugging is enabled.

:confused::confused::confused:
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
try using the initrd.gz from http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=31243842&postcount=221 into your native sd folder. if it works also change the one in sdcard/nativesd/aokp

If it doesn't work it could be due to native usb tethering not working, try the usb mass storage app from sourcery ROM.

Not sure if either of the above will work but hope it helps
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Thank's I'll test it tomorrow morning. :o

Edit:

Your solution (Link to xylo) has fixed the issue. THANK YOU!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Getrid:
Hello Robbie P,

strange - I could set up the connection to MyPhoneExplorer and sync, but only once. However USB debugging was disabled. After that I got the message reported by berbar. Anyhow - I placed the initrd.gz you provided only into my AOKP folder and it worked. USB debugging is still disabled.

Thanks mate!

Best regards

Getrid …
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Very sad news

Hi all,

Unfortunately I have to tell you that, after almost three years of trusted service, my HD2 died yesterday The last few weeks the battery drainage was huge, despite all known methods to prevent that. Yesterday my HD2 refused to recharge (LED blinking red- green - red, etc), replacing batteries did not solve the problem and now he is dead :crying:

very est regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Hi kuzibri,

that are not good news. I hope we dosn't lost you in this post. Many people have got your help. Do you want to bye a new one?
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Do not worry my dear friend, I will keep trying to help people in this thread and I\m already busy buying a used HD2 :)

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
:eek:I would like to say a MASSIVE thank you for everything you have done for hd2:thumbup: Today is a very sad day:(
[HD2 Android SD Development] LinChina:
So there is light end the end of the tunnel...........and it isn't a train :laugh:, good luck.........most of people who are selling that kind of phone don't know what "he" is capable.

We still need you ;), and as soon you have it we'll convince you to change to the NativeSD, and of course you can still have your preferred build running on sd......as long their exists :D

Cheers.....LinChina
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Thanks very much my dear friend and partner for your kind words. Don't worry, I'm not leaving this thread. Hope to have very soon a new (e.g. used) HD2. Already made an offer to someone to buy his HD2!!

P.S. For the time being, back to my HTC Touch Pro 2.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Have you checked the battery pins aren't bent? Straw clutch
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
the build runs like hell :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] vibos:
How to enable screen wake when new sms arrived?
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
I think that's not possible?!
[HD2 Android SD Development] vibos:
but why? in other (1, 2, 3) android versions this works well :-/
[HD2 Android SD Development] vibbuz:
Yeah not possible, but you can try go sms and see if that works since it has this feature :)

I had problems with market too, solved changing ro.product line in build.prop as stated in last page
[HD2 Android SD Development] vibos:
Dont understand this =(

What can i try?
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
you should use the app "go sms" from market and try if you can activate this function in settings ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] zwat:
reformat didn't help, still is sluggish and every other program crash. if i click wait it usually pops up. else it crashes the phone and i have to take out the battery to get it going again. i really love the ics look but not how it behaves on my phone.
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
haret.exe or magldr ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] zwat:
haret (i think)
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
ok you're booting from WiMo?! :)

what sd-card do you use? and how old?
[HD2 Android SD Development] zwat:
yep. company's phone so i don't dare to play with the default os. i have a 8gb transend class 6
[HD2 Android SD Development] c1cl0n:
Is everyone is working WiFi ?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Mappazza:
...I don't known when, where or why....:p

...but it's true!!!! I can confirm it!!! It's amazing!!! Now this is THE ROM!!! :D:D

....ehmmm.....it works with DPI 160...thanks to the master for his huge works...have a good time!!! :)

...yes, it works...at least for me...
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Important news about Google

Hi all,

read this about our "great friend Google":

http://pocketnow.com/android/google-joins-apple-in-the-photo-app-permissions-hot-seat

Combined with their new privacy policy, which started yesterday, there is only one conclusion possible: "Big Brother is watching you, always and anywhere.

Gives me a nasty taste in my mouth :mad:

best regards, Kuzibri

P.S. If you want to know what Google already knows about you, do the following steps:

1. go to Google's Homepage

2. Log in with your Google account

3. Click in the right uppper corner on your email acount name and choose account settings

4. Scroll down to View, enable or disable web history. There you can see what they already know about you

5. Choose remove All Web History and everything will be erased and collecting new data is put on hold/paused.

P.S.2. Just found out that these steps do not work anymore!!! Has probably something to do with their new privacy policy.
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Try new Zimage

Hi all,i have a zimage for you to try,from tytung:)Delete zimage,the one thats in ics folder, unzip file below inside new zimage folder, copy new zimage inside ics folder and reboot:)

I think build is more responsive:) but try it for yourself:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Yep my dear friend, works like a charm on my SuperRAM V8.0a. Only one slight prob: The initial startup after reboot is somewhat slower with regards to the system and sd speed increaser getting access to superuser. What's especially more responsive is the application killer function of pressing and holding the backwards SK.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] ppc3300:
Thank you, it is more stable for me. :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] vibbuz:
Will try it asap dear wis!

I'm on v9 superam and it's fantastic, very responsive made exception for every app that request superuser access, they take about a minute to make the request and open up.

I'll try with the new zimage and report back ^^
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Try this, see below:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Yes my dear friend. Tried everything to resuscitate it, but he as a dead as can be. Last few weeks he already had an unexplainable battery drainage and changing batteries, formatting SD cards, etc, etc, did not solve that. Overnight drainage was 10-12%, whilts 3 to 4 was normal. Minor usage and the drainage became enormous.

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] z_harris:
Hi my Friend,

Very bad news, but I believe soon You will have a new HD2. May be the only weakness of our phones is that even they can be broken.

Best regards my Friend.
[HD2 Android SD Development] c1cl0n:
@kuzibri

Please accept my condolences. I know that such a thing to lose is very dear to you... my lovely car is still in the hijacking
[HD2 Android SD Development] pakure:
What??..the hd2 dies??..I never thought it can get killed ...
[HD2 Android SD Development] mengfei:
sad to say it ain't bullet proof :eek:

but i guess by now used ones are even cheaper
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
HD2 died

@pakure

@mengfei

Yes, alas, also an HD2 can die (tried again today to "resuscitate" it, but it is as dead as can be - think that one of the battery pins seems to be broken-malfunctioning). I used it for almost three years and flashed a lot of ROM's and fooled around with it a lot of times, so sooner or later you can expect that it will give up on you. When everything works out like planned, I will have an almost brand new HD2 by tomorrow :D and will be back again in business again on Friday (after reinstalling Artemis ROM, Android SD card JellyBean, tweaks, etc, etc).

very best regards and thanks for your reactions, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi all,

thanks for all the reactions on the post of my dead HD2!!!!!!!

II will have tomorrow an almost brand new HD2 for 150 Euro. :D

So, you are not rid of me in the near future. :D

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] the_mad_man:
I'm very happy for this! :good:
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi all off my friends,

back into business again!!!! The used HD2 looks as new and is hardly used (the "old" owner" had three devices, that's why he sold one).

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] pakure:
What is the point of having a hd2 if you are not using native sd Rom on it??:p:D
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Well my dear friend, herefore is a simple answer: Artemis ROM on my HD2, which accounts for 95% om my daily use :p:D

very best regards. Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] pakure:
Exactly...... why one when you can multiboot.. the best roms of Windows and android..:p:D
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
you're right about the best ROM's of Windows and Android and I tried the native SD version, but personally I prefer Alpha2, just like in the near past the Pseudo Ram V36 my favorite was..

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Hi kuzibri,

check the nightly 0409 NativeSD and you will never want the old SD. In april I ask wis for tips using an EXT4 partion. Now we have one! Very Fast and no freeze. All apps are running. And the best ist the starting speed.....

Xylo, this was a very good step for the future development!
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi my friend,

I will check that one, Do you have a link for me to this build??

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] pakure:
It is xylos aokp native sd Rom...a new update is also available
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=29851395

@Kuzibri: Take this and go to leo jelly bean aokp

ICS HD2 by XDA
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Thanks very much my dear friend. Tried it, but facing the fact that I use Artemis ROM in more than 95% of my daily use, I see no advantage of installiing a Native SD Card ROM. Besides that, I still like Alpha2 more, just like I did with the Pseudo Ram version V36. I use Android only for apps that are not available in Windows Mobile, like Whatsapp, Further I only use Artemis ROM, which is very fast, stable, smooth and very, very reliable. I use this Android build mainly to help people in this thread when they have problems or questions :)

very best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Szczepanik:
Kuzibri thank you for helping people. One good enough reason for trying NativeSD is the speed booting from WM to NativeSD using Android takes under one minute.

Cheers

Tom