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[HTC Desire S] waterprism:
Hi,

New to HTC and Android, but just wanted to get your opinion on something.

I got an unlocked HTC Desire S from a Chinese (Hong Kong) supplier via a local middleman. It had all kinds of Chinese bloatware on it, and so I decided to flash a new rom. When I went into About phone > Phone identity to write everything down before flashing, I noticed it has a strange 'Device serial number' of 123456789012. That looks kind of strange. On the box sticker and on the sticker in the battery compartment of the phone, what I see is "S/N: SH1CATJxxxxx". Is there anything fishy going on there?

The default Android 2.3.3 OS seems all right. It has what looks like a default HTC startup splash screen (though I don't know if that makes a difference). I did notice that there wasn't a Power settings entry in settings to change fastboot. I had to pull out the battery to get to the boot screen. Don't know if that's a big deal either. I also noticed it was S-Off to begin with when I installed root.

Does this all seem strange, legit, clone-ish? Are there even Desire S clones/knock-offs/gray models/and the like out there? I don't think so... but still, that is a strange device serial number in the phone software, and even the printed serial numbers on the box and battery compartment seem strange, starting with SH instead of HT.

Would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Set up adb and type

adb devices

That'll give you your actual device number. No confusion then...

BTW even my device serial number starts with SH... that's not an indicator of a fake device. Check tour device serial number via adb and if it matches the one on the box... I guess you're good to go.

Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.
[HTC Desire S] waterprism:
Through adb, it shows that same 123456789012 number.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
so, it's probably just dumb luck that the no. is so :p Nothing to worry about.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Yup. Guess you're just plain lucky!! But then the box belongs to some other phone.how about some pics or screenshots??

Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
There are different serials for different regions/brands. SH is ok, it is the same for North Africa

I am not aware of a method to change the serial number (never needed such) but I am sure that there is. So if your system is android and your device is solid and nice then this should be a Desire S :)
[HTC Desire S] waterprism:
Hi. Thanks, everyone.

@enigmaamit, I've posted a few pics and a screenshot. Not sure what kind of screenshot you need. Let me know if you need anything else. Thanks. Also not sure if these pics mean much if funny stuff is going on somewhere. The serial on the box clearly doesn't match the screenshot. And that seal was broken when I opened the package.

@amidabuddha, okay, thanks. But like I said above, and enigma said, the S/N on the box is one thing, the S/N the phone is printing out in the 'Phone identity' screen is totally different.

Appreciate your help.
[HTC Desire S] sukrit7:
That 'seal' doesn't look very authentic. There are grammatical mistakes too. And(I just noticed) it says 'SEALED PACKGE' instead of package so there's definitely something wrong.

I hope the phone is genuine.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
The device is probably legit, just slightly used by someone else before. I think it's second hand, and the box belongs to another device.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Looks legit to me. I wouldn't worry if it was my device.

Lol.... why don't you fool around and use the bar code scanner to scan the bar codes on the box and see where that leads you to!!

I'm starting to enjoy this Scotland yard stuff!!

Beamed from the Dark Side using xda premium.
[HTC Desire S] waterprism:
Thanks, everyone. Guess I'll have to decide on my next step.

I'll do that, enigma. You mean with just a normal downloaded QR code app?
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Use this - https://market.android.com/details?...mNvbS5nb29nbGUuenhpbmcuY2xpZW50LmFuZHJvaWQiXQ..
[HTC Desire S] mouzzza:
My device was made in Taiwan, not in China as yours!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Well, HTC is based Taiwan, but sometimes companies manufacture stuff in other countries too. It may also be that the packing is fake, which seems most likely at this time.

Also, since it's S-OFF, you should try some custom ROMs, Sense 3.5 is nice. Try Endymion or Virtuous Affinity. If they work, then it should prove that the device is legit. A knock off can't flash a ROM made for this, it's impossible.

Also, in hboot mode, select recovery and tell us what you see. If it's CWM or 4EXT, then it'll prove it's second hand. If you see stock HTC recovery, (red triangle with !) forget your worries :)
[HTC Desire S] Montague Fortiscue:
My box looks the same, the only difference is the seal
[HTC Desire S] waterprism:
Hi. Unfortunately, I've already flashed a new rom and so I can't remember what the original recovery was like... I flashed it up to 2.3.5 and Sense 3.0. I'm still new to Androids and didn't really have any misgivings about the phone at that time. It was during the whole process of flashing it, seeing that it was already S-Off, seeing that the serial number was sketchy, etc., that I began to wonder. By the time I was pretty sure something was wrong, I'd already flashed to official 2.3.5 to get rid of the Chinese stuff that I mentioned in my OP.

So, what this tells us is that the phone isn't a knock-off I guess. But I'm pretty sure it's a refurb/second-hand phone (refurb and second-hand are pretty much mutually inclusive here, so bottom line, it's a refurbished second-hand phone).

If not that, it's maybe some kind of development set or something. I came across some Chinese threads out there that have the serial number 0123456789012 mentioned in them. When I did a Google Translate on them, I kind of gleaned that that number can indicate a development or engineering set (or something like that). So it could mean it was used in development and now they're selling them off. Either way, not a new phone.

But the plot thickens when I actually came across a post here at xda that mentions that you can actually change the serial number like this --

fastboot oem writeserialno HT95XXXXXXXX

Which means these guys could have taken any phone and just wiped the serial number for this serial number.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
yup, that seems to be it. It's a second hand phone, and the seller, in order to protect his identity, changed the serial no. The culprit is your supplier or middleman.

CASE CLOSED :p

One more thing - do you see any sort of hardware issues, that may be caused due to aggressive usage? Like big scratches on the screen or the unibody? If not, then you're just lucky to have gotten an S-OFF device.
[HTC Desire S] waterprism:
No, not really. Phone works pretty well. Nothing glaring that I can notice, especially now after flashing to a slightly newer version of Android and Sense than the release shipped with. Also, obviously getting rid of that Chinese bloatware helped it a bit. There's a teeny-tiny scratch on the mesh speaker at the top that gets my goat right by the goddamn horns, I have to admit. I also just realized right this second that there's a protector screen on it! I just took it off. I doubt brand new Desire S's ever shipped with a screen protector already attached, if someone could just confirm.

But yeah, I've got it and it's S-Off. As I type that though, I'm pretty sure I'll be taking this further.
[HTC Desire S] djisgod:
i doubt its fake ,i more expect that its a stolen phone with a changes serial number.
[HTC Desire S] ammenRA:
you can also check the warranty seal on top of a tiny screw right above the battery compartment.
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
Did you get it at a comparatively cheaper price (in your local market / currency)?
[HTC Desire S] waterprism:
Hi, ammenRA. Couldn't really see what you are referring to. The void seal next to the battery?

Hi, Tapur007. It wasn't that expensive, but it's the principle.

Thanks, guys.
[HTC Desire S] ammenRA:
when you open the the battery cover, there're four visible small screws and one of them have a void seal right on top of the screw.

look at 0:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7sp3gN-vc0&feature=player_detailpage
[Verizon Droid Charge] drbveb88:
Does anyone have the zip files for any of the "havoc" boot animations. Everytime I try to download one from the "huge collections of boot animations" the "WARNING" logo comes up and it doesn't allow for any downloading.

I am looking for the "blue Havoc" specifically but any of the havocs will work. Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
It's because MegaUpload got shut down. JaeKar MIGHT still have it, but I assume he's working on reupping.
[Verizon Droid Charge] blueis300:
Never mind wrong link.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackdragon79:
Just take a quick moment to say rip to one of the greatest singers to ever live. Rest in Whitney Houston

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMyXVph8GwY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from the official iPhone killer
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
RIP Whitney :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ja5oN:
Seriously how sad... RIP Whitney
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackdragon79:
If a mod delete this post he or she will go down ass the worlds biggest asshole.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oscarthegrouch:
If she hadn't hooked up with Bobby Brown and was introduced to drugs, she might be alive and definitely a better singer than post crack Whitney.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bear gri11z:
crack is whack!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTnmp2iTZpA
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackdragon79:
Actually she was the one who turned bobby out.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] the_scotsman:
Thread already made in Off Topic:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1492768
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vannav8:
All right, I have a lil problem that goes a little some like this...

1) Everytime a try to shut down the phone it reboots automatically!

I've also been having other problems with the phone too! and they are

2) I charge my mobile at night go to work and only, only just last when i get home after 8 - 10 hours, in that time i dont even use it! but when i disconnect it from charging fully, it takes a while to recognise that it has disconnected, displays battery still charging etc, and it makes noises that its connected and disconnected???

3) They unlock screen plays up, you'll try and drag your finger across the screen to make a pattern to unlock and it does complete the pattern or recognise where your finger is, if you wait for a little bit or lock then try again it works??? (GO LOCK installed, along with GO PRO theme!)

4) GO weather doesn't recognise your GPS positioning but the Navigation program does. (this maybe the program i dont know, its just all happening at once that all)

5)Try to connect to Samsung Kies Pc studio to update the firmware and mobile, and i keep getting a message saying 'Reconnect the device in Samsung Kies (PC Studio) mode. Current connection mode not supported be Kies. (and this is with the updated Kies program)

6) Now when i turn it off and restarts it's self, it hangs on at shut down flashing between two picture, the battery status picture and saying its overheated, when now it doesn't overheat like it was doing earlier or even get hot at all??? And to get it outta this mode i have to put a charger in it and turn it back on and take it out

What i have done so far:

a) I've uninstalled all the 'GO' apps

b) followed the Samsung Kies instructions and still same problem

c) tried going throught the mobile's options to turn on or off anything to do with USB sharing and bebugging, and keeps telling me that the usb cable is to be disconnected when it is not???

All i can relate this to is when, one time while i was working i put my mobile away in the glove box of the work vehicle, i returned to it at the end of the day and remember my mobile would be flat at this stage, so i was gonna check the time, and i sore the mobile had SOME how went into 'ODIN' mode, NO one ever touched it, nor did i do anything to it to do this, and sore it was trying to download something? I panicked, try to turn it off, and wouldn't turn back on till i got a charger into it.

So now i am thinking this maybe to problem 'ODIN' mode when i forced it to shut down!, but from here this is where i need help? What is first

Additional info:

PC O/S: windows 7 Home premium

Samsung Galaxy S2 I9100

Mobile: PDA: I9100TDVKF4

Phone: I9100TDVKF2

CSC: I9100TTELKF3

Build Info: TUE JUN 21 16:41:40 KST 2011

Provider: Telstra

Country: Australia

Any help would be very grateful, thankz in advanced for your time to share any info
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vannav8:
Ok, wired thing just happened, i was stuffing around, my mobile was connected by usb to the computer charging, and it reached 100% so i disconnected it and was playing through the menus again, trying to disable debugging mode and... it finally disconnected!

So i was able to connected to Kies, checking everything and it was saying that i had the latest updates and firmware, is this true because i've been reading other wise and was wondering, if there is a better update then i've got, cause i've still got all the other same problems!

So what do i do, reinstall, update??? i have no idea!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bartolomeus:
The problems with the phone restarting and not disconnecting is probably your micro usb connection on the phone. Try cleaning it.
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
UPDATED PAGE!

Back with another utility... this time pre-release Droid 4! I haven't seen a Droid 4 board yet so I guess I have to put this under General.

There are no fastboot files as of writing this (2/11/2012) but once they come out I will be making a full version that includes fastboot restore. For now, only a few MB compared to GB full.

Includes Root function thanks to Dan Rosenberg's motofail exploit.

It is the only reason we can have a working utility root!

Donate to his fund for the Red Cross here

Note to all: I am giving control of the Droid 4 Utility to skylarmb (Although I will still be very involved ;) )

Don't use Safestrap yet!

Hashcode is making a D4 version very soon!

Motorola Drivers (If its not working install this.)

32 Bit Link: http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...al_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.1.32_Driver_5.4.0.exe

64 Bit Link: http://goo-inside.me/apps/mattlgroff/Motorola_End_User_Driver_Installation_5.4.0_64bit.msi

Size: 2.09 MB

MD5: 8b44666a5d97137292ec03e74f8b75d7

Link: http://goo-inside.me/apps/mattlgroff/Droid4Utility0.3.zip

Changes in 0.3----

Added new text at bottom

Removed Safestrap until D4 version released.

Added Overclock install. See guide here (Overclocking Your Droid Razr - DroidRzr.com)

(thanks coryjohn and OPPtimizer Project - http://code.google.com/p/opptimizer/ )

Used "Ultra" .zip compression.

Enjoy~!

If you feel like contributing to my Razr Dev fund you may do so here. ;)

Screenshot of what the folder should look like in order for it to run:
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
And if anyone could do a system pull and send me a copy over a file-share site like mediafire or minu.us that would be very helpful to me. Thanks

EDIT: Nvm. I got one.
[Motorola Droid 4] moah909:
What do the different options do? I went from having a OG Droid, with cyanogenmod which was super straight forward to this and I have no idea what the fastboot or bootstrapping does.

If you still need the /system pull I can send you the link over PM.
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
Bootstrap is the way to get into a CWM-like recovery for the Razr. I have no way to test this on a D4, seeing as I don't have one.

ICS root works on the GSM ICS leak, so it may work for ours too.

Boot into Fastboot from Debugging (go directly to fastboot mode from the phone turned on and in USB Debugging mode)

Boot into Motorola Recovery from Debugging (same as above but into Moto Recovery)

ADB Shell (for more manually inclined users)

Reboot phone from Debugging
[Motorola Droid 4] Code3VW:
I have ADB 1.0.26 (at least that is what it says when I go to Start>Run>CMD>and type in adb.

Is there anything else I need to get the phone rooted? Any other drivers or anything along those lines. I know the phone needs to be in development mode, but I want to make sure all of the other software on the computer end is up-to-date since I've had a G1, Mytouch Slide 3G, G2, and Droid 3 before picking up this Droid 4.
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
You'll need the latest Motorola drivers. I will add links in the OP
[Motorola Droid 4] Code3VW:
Thanks! Has there been a tried and true wireless tether application yet? :)
[Motorola Droid 4] ian3d:
I think most people use the one they use with CM.

code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

This one I think. You have to install via the APK.

Please correct me if there is a different one of this is the wrong one. I'm actually curious myself.
[Motorola Droid 4] Code3VW:
I have no technical explanation for this, but...

DO NOT RUN THE .BAT FILE AS ADMINISTRATOR.

If I right-click the .bat file and click "run as administrator" in Windows 7, everything would appear to work (at least to the splash screen), but when I selected option 1 it would come back with a bunch of lines of "the system cannot find the path specified."

When I just double clicked the .bat file it ran properly and am now set.

Again, I have no idea why it worked this way, but it did...at least on my system. Windows 7 64-bit here, btw.

---------- Post added at 11:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:10 PM ----------

Turns out you were right...loaded Wifi Tether v3.1 beta 11 from here and it works no problem! :cool:
[Motorola Droid 4] phrir1:
So we actually have safestrap already for the d4?

EXCITED! !!!!!!
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
Yup! Still take care though... it's still dangerous without fastboot or SBF files.
[Motorola Droid 4] phrir1:
Ya wont be flashing anything just yet hopefully we get an ics rom soon since its so close to the razr
[Motorola Droid 4] YahyaIsrael:
I was wondering the same thing, if the RadioCom Tether Hack worked. But I tried to enable the tether on the phone, and Verizon pops up a message as long as I have a $29.95 data plan then I can tether. So I went forward and enabled teather since I have the unlimited plan, and all seems well. I went to My Verizon web and checked to see if I'm being charged, or if another service has been added, and I see non. So I will try using this for now.
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
Thank you XDA for putting my Utility on the front page =D
[Motorola Droid 4] shadowace:
So I used the utility to root my droid 4, but I did not install the safe strap. At this point I do not plan on doing any flashing or even heavy customization. I just wanted root for install of wifi tether and titanium backup. Is there a need for safestrap before I plan on getting into flashing etc?
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
I'd recommend against installing safestrap if you won't be flashing anything. =D
[Motorola Droid 4] ByronCole:
bricked my droid 4... for now...

I'm pretty pissed at my self... I softbricked my droid 4 days after i got it... now im just waiting for the fastboot restore option... I'll be checking back here every day now lol... does anyone know when it will be released, or is it even a guarantee it'll be released?
[Motorola Droid 4] Code3VW:
How did this happen? Best of luck on getting it fixed!
[Motorola Droid 4] ByronCole:
Well i had success using the droid razr utility before this one came out (of course cant fastboot recovery with it tho :( ), so i thought maybe the EternityProject WebTop Mod would work, so i tried installing it through adb and i went to do the 2nd step and found out webtop was disabled... I figure i did something wrong... so i went to restore the backup i made and all of the sudden its stuck in AP fastboot saying flash failure.

This really sucks cause i bought the lapdock 500 to go with the phone. Now I have 2 bricks sitting on my desk, until further notice.

I since i have insurance on this phone I am putting the phone up for sale on craigslist with an hdmi cable so someone can enjoy a small android tab and webtop if they want it for 120... anyone think I'll be able to sell it before the fastboot recovery is released?
[Motorola Droid 4] reigndropz:
Quick question....If I do a system pull and then try to throw a few things from UOT kitchen like battery percent.....would that work without the files being deodexed?
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
From what I understand about the 1% battery mod, it requires de-odexed. Same with the Droid RAZR anyway.
[Motorola Droid 4] skylarmb:
Droid 4 Utility change of developer!

Hello all, Im taking over updating the Droid 4 Utility

This way mattlgroff has a little less work on his hands and can focus more on IMPORTANT things like bootloaders, ICS, etc...

Thanks!

The Droid 4 Utility is also now available for Mac and Linux! Look for the thread in the Droid 4 Android Development section!
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
Indeed. I am working on the RAZR mostly ;)
[Motorola Droid 4] rush242:
Interesting. I installed the overclock ability and now my home button doesn't send me back to the home screen, and the power button just doesn't put the phone to sleep. I deleted the 1300 file and rebooted, but the problem remains.

EDIT: The Search button is gone, the power indicator is gone too.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
Overclock itself hasn't done that in the past. I'd say fastboot but we don't have them yet. Soon hopefully?
[Motorola Droid 4] rush242:
No worries. I don't know it was your utility, that thing works a charm!

Thanks!
[Motorola Droid 4] svrnmnd:
hey so Im a ****ing idiot, I didn't try calling anyone from my contacts on my phone when I got it, was just busy rooting and syncing . basicly I have this really random contact error where I can dial a number no problem..but if I go into contacts and click a name my contacts FC. I didn't root with this but Verizon tech said they would give me a new phone....so if I unroot..vzw will still take it back?
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
If you didn't change anything while rooted you should be fine. Not sure why Verizon wouldn't take it back if you unrooted it. The unroot "may" not uninstall superuser, I need to release a patch publicly to fix it. It definitely would if you used this utility though.

The necessary patched file is here
[Motorola Droid 4] svrnmnd:
errr sorry Im kind of drunk and I know that my last post wasn't exactly clear.

So I will be going into verizon tomorrow morning. I was told If I do not unroot, they will find out and make me pay full price for the phone (which I do not have) so....should I un-install super user while I am still root, then use the utillity to un-root? verizon will not be able to tell the difference correct?!
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
Put the unroot patch I just gave you into the files folder of the utility. (It will ask you if you want to over-write the pre-existing one, say yes.)

Run the utility and say unroot option.

It will remove Superuser :D
[Motorola Droid 4] svrnmnd:
so, when I download the file it is called unroot.txt . in my files folder there is just an 'unroot' do I rename the file unroot with no txt ? also thank you very big for the patch!
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
Yup. Not sure why it named it .txt.....
[Motorola Droid 4] zombie673:
Any word on the Safestrap? I really want to start toying with ROMs but I don't want to do it without backing up the phenomenal setup that I have right now.
[Motorola Droid 4] mattlgroff:
Hashcode is very busy right now, maybe in a few days.
[Motorola Droid 4] Briteyez83:
Is this patch to unroot the D4? Got a new phone on warrenty cause my ear piece speaker went out. I also changed the bootup screen with rom toolbox, is that going to be an issue? Is there any other apps that i need to worry about being on my phone? Ie root explorer and astro?
[Motorola Droid 4] greekchampion04:
apps should go away when you do a factory reset, so i wouldnt worry about those... and im pretty sure the utility does have an un-root tool

what i am not sure about, is if you can un-safestrap it.