yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
@ben_pyett, I agree completely. We won't get Sense 4 as it's too different from 3.x and some features have been removed too, so many users (n00bs) will go crying to HTC saying they don't like it and want a downgrade.

@draghiciandrei I would have agreed with you a month ago, but look at the DHD, released almost a year and a half ago with Android 2.2, it was upgraded to 2.3.3 (Sense 2.1) then 2.3.5 (Sense 3.0) and now 4.0.3 (Sense 3.6). That's as long as iPhones :p
[HTC Desire S] matrixhaj:
that is the reason why i Buyed Desire S (development) , and not basic Desire or I9001

Thanks HTC.. im looking forward to cool ROMS :D
[HTC Desire S] kylon:
We will not have sense 4 because

If we get sense 4 on older phones all people will buy a desire s and not a one

They need a special new thing for the newer phone

Probably we will have an update to android 4.1 or 4.0.4 with s4 like the sense 3
[HTC Desire S] lhn1989:
It's end of March now, will the update be late?
[HTC Desire S] dmatik:
What do you mean "late"? HTC never anounced specific date for our Desire S uodate. They just said "later this year".

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] fluidkillereye:
Nice to see that HTC finally started to be nice

, but i'm hooked to CyanogenMod... want to try CM 9 with ICS :)
[HTC Desire S] simeonoff:
Samarth Rasiwasia, an HTC Employee and Sense Developer for the Indian Branch of the company, announced that HTC will start the roll out of the ICS update featuring Sense 3.6 for the Desire HD in the last week of May. I think it is safe to say that this will be the case for our device as well.

Seems my analyses were right the whole time.
[HTC Desire S] korenisko:
Dhd is older. I think, we can expect it sooner...
[HTC Desire S] :
Older but with similar specifications.

Some say that Htc made a lot of rewrapping of the DHD and Desire S is one of them.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
May?! Basically June! Damn that is much later than I expected... My contract is up end of July, so ill only get to enjoy full ICS for 2 months...

Hopefully we would get it before DHD guys (like we got sense 3.0 before them)

And hopfully a leaked beta RUU first..
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Umm, Oly, the employee is Indian, he's telling you about the Indian update :p The update with 3.0 came to India in December, while it was released in August-September for the Desire S, the DHD update (Incredible S too) came in Jan. Don't fret, from the above data, i can say the update will come this month.
[HTC Desire S] :
meaning in the next three days???

i don't wont to be a jinx but i really don't beleive it
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
lol, i mistyped. I meant in April. Even i don't believe it would be released in the next 3 days.
[HTC Desire S] simeonoff:
The Indian representative actually meant Europe.
[HTC Desire S] leoburrrito:
Yayyyyyy.
[HTC Desire S] qixgle:
Confirmed!

Confirmed.

But desire S should get a Sense3.6.not the best sense 4.0!
[HTC Desire S] Tik_Tak:
@qixgle

source?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
No official source, but based on leaks, if the Sensation lineup are only getting sense 3.6, no doubt we would get 3.6 too, as the Sensation is a better 'brand'
[HTC Desire S] 04kiran:
Anyone know when in India?...
[HTC Desire S] :
any new about the release date of the update ???
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Just relax. there is one thing I can say for sure: as soon as there are news, they will be everywhere on XDA.

And btw. I think there are more important problems to be solved. For example how to feed the world? Or where do I get my next beer from?? this stupid update will not gonna revolutionize the smartphone world. even your phone WILL STAY THE SAME (OMG).

nevermind.

Sent by my fingers to your head.
[HTC Desire S] :
just asked about the update because i am borred of GB,i don't wan't to unlock bootloader and root because i don't wan't to lose the warnitary
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Well isn't it quite obvious that if we get the update, it would be big news across the whole forum?
[HTC Desire S] goatimus:
Glad this is coming I've always stayed away from ics as I need decent working camera/camcorder. So with new kernal all should be good. Plus I still got a year on my contract it might sweeten the bitterness of my **** deal... for a bit anyway.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I suspect that the update is among us...

Sensation XL users have apparently got the official OTA in some regions.. (Hungary)

And they say that Europe will follow suit in the early days of April.

Hopefully that means we will get it around the same time as them

(BTW, I'm serious, no April Fools crap or whatever)
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
For me, it depends on how quickly HTC release the source code. I don't plan on sticking to sense for long. They were quite quick with the sensation. Let's hope the same for our phone
[HTC Desire S] firkoo:
i realy wait for ics in my desire s .
[HTC Desire S] d4k-pho3nix:
Must be a great thing !
[HTC Desire S] mizerok:
What a brilliant news! So guys, I think it will be great. Now i'm using Primo-S by Proxuser, so i can say, that it's very fast and smooth, and when we have Kernel 3, camera and other things will work :D

P.s. like the face unlock feature :)
[HTC Desire S] :
really big idiot customer service employee

Немања : Kindly note that we are working hard on keeping all our devices up to date with the latest software’s and application's. At the moment we cannot confirm if and when the update for your device will be available. You can check from time to time on our web page at www.htc.com, or on your device by going to menu> settings> about phone> software update.

draghici andrei: some time ago you released some information where htc confirmed the update for the desire s + other devices

draghici andrei: are there some changes in the pas couple of days regarding this?

Немања : One moment, I will check

Немања : Yes, the upgrade is released and you will receive it soon. The upgrade includes Sense 3.0 as well as Android 2.3.5

Немања : Anything else that I can help with?

draghici andrei: the upgrade you are speaking of reffers to android gingerbread

draghici andrei: i am asking about the update to Android 4.0 with sense 3.6

Немања : And I told you already that we are working hard on keeping all our devices up to date with the latest software’s and application's. At the moment we cannot confirm if and when the update for your device will be available. You can check from time to time on our web page at www.htc.com, or on your device by going to menu> settings> about phone> software update.

draghici andrei: are my informations wrong ? isn't this going to be available for my device?

Немања : We can't confirm

Немања : Anything else that I can help with?

draghici andrei: yes

draghici andrei: how can one join the Elevate program??

draghici andrei: and if you can please explain me this official announcement?http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/

Немања : Can you please clarify what you mean. What is Elevate program?

draghici andrei: http://access.htcelevate.com/

Немања : One moment

Немања : Yes, the ICS will be released for your device, nevertheless we can't confirm the exact date

Немања : Anything else that I can help with?

draghici andrei: you really didn't help me with nothing

draghici andrei: thanks anyway

Немања : Thank you for contacting us, I hope you have a great day

draghici andrei: and i am glad that by this disccusion you learned some new things about HTC

Немања : Thank you you are so smart

Немања : Have a nice day

you can all gues what was my first question, i think that i ran into the wrong support employe
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
And i thought my country had the worst service employees.
[HTC Desire S] :
i really don't understand the HTC representative, i knwo i can be really mean sometimes but i think my questions were simple and polite

am i wrong?
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
Hahahahaha this is unbelievable! All HTC owners are in nervous anticipation and this guy is offering us Sense 3. Really made me laugh out loud :)
[HTC Desire S] :
LooooOOoooooL
[HTC Desire S] :
i got a call from HTC, a survey for my discussion from the other day.

the only usefull information they gaved me is that for certain the update will come in the second have of this year
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Second half, ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME HTC?!?!?!? We'll be getting ICS when JellyBean is already out, WTF. I also had a chat with an HTC employee, from germany, as India has no option to chat with employees. I asked if it would come this month and they said this month they want to reach all Sensation users, so no :(

So, I guess Evo 3D will be getting the update next month, and Desire S should be next, the problem is, there are no leaks for the Evo 3D either, so the update could take a while. I'm really dissapointed.
[HTC Desire S] :
I am really dissapointed as well, at least we know that will get the update, and that's something that we never excepected till last year.

They did mention that they don't know how long it will take their servers to distribute the update OTA. But my impression is that the update isn't ready yet.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
That's a joke :(

2nd half?!?!

But hopefully we will get a leak soon... Because we got Sense 3.0 leaks from goAPK forum back in August... The first official OTA came by early October. By December, the whole Desire S variations got it.

So I think the guy who told you '2nd half of year' was just playing it on the safe side. Because if he says it so early for some countries, then people from other countries would start complaining.. so he just picked the latest date to play or safe....
[HTC Desire S] Vraser:
I think this is my last HTC Device, they dont support their phones properly. I love the build quality and sense, but I am sick of paying hundreds of euros for devices which dont get a sufficient support (my Htc Flyer is not a year old and not supported anymore). I will go for Samsungs Nexus the next time...
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yeah... But at least its better than nothing :p

The original SGS (2 years old) is still even getting firmware updates! (Although not ICS)

Before I owned a Android Device, I always read on the news about how people hated OEM for taking updates so long, and getting frustrated etc...

Now I understand the feeling. I was considering my next device to be a pure Android phone too.... (Galaxy Nexus)

I will miss Sense... But having said that, I think Android ICS has advanced much further beyond Gingerbread... The UI is actually tolerable, without the need to load up thousands of widgets/themes to give it a pretty UI.

I feel bad about the Flyer. It's only a years old and no ICS :(
[HTC Desire S] :
htc sucks omg second half of the year omg :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[HTC Desire S] outsidetown:
It does suck, indeed, but I'm more than happy with my Desire S. When I want something new and shiny I just flash a new ROM. ICS is great, but Reaper and Endy do everything I want from my phone, and do it well!

It makes sense to me that they want the cutting edge phones to have cutting edge OSes first, we'll get it eventually guys!
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Yes, I get it, better late than never :p Hopefully, we'll at least have an RUU leak by the end of this month.
[HTC Desire S] :
that sucks my next phone wont be htc
[HTC Desire S] djisgod:
i think your all overeating,why would a call centre survey person know when the update is coming,without proof i dont believe this 2nd half of the year thing is even true.seems like trolling to me.hes just a call centre someone not a high up official at htc,i doubt they know anything even if they did say it.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
I really do hope that's the case!

It makes sense anyway, as the XL already has had a leak last month, and HTC would make the update for us the same time, as we have the same specs...
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Guys, don't get me wrong, but this thread is pointless at my opinion, when there is a leak or release we will know.

All the guesses and unreliable informations harm more than they use, if you want to use ics, we already got it, if it's to buggy for you stay on gb, it also does almost everything our device is able to.

Gesendet von meinem Desire S mit Tapatalk
[HTC Desire S] mikeyd85:
But... it does keep all speculation / rumour / chat / spam in one thread. If it weren't here we'd have threads every other day.
[HTC Desire S] djisgod:
this thread is old now,someone decided to bring it back from the dead,i posted it weeks ago when it was first news.
[HTC Desire S] mizerok:
NO NO NO... i don't think that's true. We will get a leak in april, because Sensation XL has already got it and we have same hardware
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Ok, your right :)

At least it does make sense, but is still pointless^^

Gesendet von meinem Desire S mit Tapatalk
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Was no offend against you, at first stance it sure was useful, but at the current stage it isn't anymore.
[HTC Desire S] Forwox:
HTC go kill yourself. Bloody moneysuckers. They told that they are changing their politics, so where?
[HTC Desire S] tasos12:
I am starting to suspect that this is HTC policy.

The asnwer I got from HTC Greece was very similar to the one that Andrey got from HTC Russia.

At first they told me they knew nothing about ICS on DS.

I reminded them that 3 weeks ago they have told me that it would be released at the first days of April.

After that the representative told me to hold and came back saying that the OTA is out but for Sensation and it will be available for DS as well but he couldnt give me a date cause according to him "Google hasnt reply to us yet about the date for the DS OTA"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So having all this in mind I d have to say that they are playing dumb cause they have no F.....ing idea as for when the OTA will come.

I think this is company policy cause similarities between countries in the reply to the question of ICS OTA are just to great....
[HTC Desire S] :
Another possible answer is that HTC has externalised his customer support service, and most of their reprezentatives are students.

They don't have a clue what HTC means, and what they are doing(talking about).
[HTC Desire S] Tik_Tak:
guys, relax and wait, i dont think we will see a leak this month

so enjoy your sense 3.5 great ports :)
[HTC Desire S] tasos12:
Strangely enough a Greek site which is usually very well informed mentioned today that the OTA for the ICS to DS will be available on May.....
[HTC Desire S] :
may sounds far away...

any link with the source?
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Yeah, I've been browsing round a couple of DHD threads, and apparently May will be the update....
[HTC Desire S] :
that's true htc wil kill them self
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
They are definitely changing, I never even expected the Desire S to get the update, forget the year and a half old DHD. I know it's a long wait, but still, it should be worth it. (Not the actual update, Sense 3.6 sucks, but the Kernel will help devs bring a full Sense 4 port :D:D:D )

That's exactly what happens in my country, so i never bother contacting customer services :p

Could you please post the link?? I'm pretty sure that a European country will be first to get the update, and a leak would soon surface from a Chinese source, so if everyone could post links to their sites, it would be great.
[HTC Desire S] account1:
ok, here're the two Greek websites mentioning the update comes in May

http://techblog.gr/mobile/htc-desire-s-update-ice-cream-sandwich-may-2012-25432/

http://www.myphone.gr/forum/showthread.php?t=332015
[HTC Desire S] :
looks like other HTC users are more lucky

http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-rezoun...razr-maxx-get-minor-update-ics-to-come-later/
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
Rezound is a dual core 720p Verizon flagship device. No surprise it got the update before our single core mid-range device. Besides, it was like the last HTC device launched (excluding the One series, of course)
[HTC Desire S] darkrainx2:
Well, with or without leaks, the update will come, sooner or later!htc is moving very fast , not like others phone brands... My girlfriend has an LG optimus black and she just has receive update to gingerbread!how's that? HTC FTW!
[HTC Desire S] :
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1588135
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
WTF?!

End of the year! Stupid HTC employees, I bloody hope its not the truth!

I saw a similiar thread in the EVO 3D forum and it says second half of the year.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
A little math -

Second half = July to December

Right now = April

July - April = At least 3 more months (maybe 9 :p )

The next device expected to be updated is Evo 3D, since all sensation devices will be done by April (XE and XL). What the hell will HTC do for 3 months, take a break ?!?!?!? Clearly the customer care guys know nothing.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
LoL... Calm down my friends... All this speculation is pointless... It'll happen when it does... no sooner and no later. Either somebody will get their hands on an RUU from somewhere, or HTC will hit us with a surprise update out of the blue (Remember how the Sense 3.0 OTA update hit us in the face without warning? - although by that time, we were all on custom Sense 3.0 ROMs anyway!)

Point is, nothing gained getting worked up about it. All i know is that XDA is here for a reason and that someone, somewhere, will somehow get his hands on a Sense ICS ROM for the DS, then it'll make its way over here, and there'll be christmas all over again! :D
[HTC Desire S] tasos12:
I am pretty sure they were trying to get rid of the guy.

He insisted on an answer so they told by the end of the year.

Notice that they said BY and not ON the end of the year.

I agree that they dont know and they dont care to know.

For example OTA to android 2.3.5 was on the air for Greece and HTC said they didnt know if an OTA will be out for this.

Worry not my friends I dont think it will take too long probably it will be on May.
[HTC Desire S] :
just HTC sucks
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Well, it's not the hole company. the engineers are doing good job in my opinion. But the update policy indeed my friend does suck a lot.

Sent by my fingers to your head.
[HTC Desire S] Tapur007:
Absolutely agree! Atleast HTC promised us and DhD owners an update to ICS.... Look at Samsung, LG, Sony, Motorola... They are pathetic with regards to updates for older devices (IMHO)!
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
May 2012 is the confirmed date for the Desire HD! That's according to someone on Google + (no idea who the guy is, don't recognize his name, but he seems to be HTC associated.

I found thus in the official ICS waiting DHD thread.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Also forgot to say - its in the 'last weeks of May'
[HTC Desire S] freedompie:
hopefully we'll get it before them since the desire s is a newer device
[HTC Desire S] :
I do not believe in this miracle that we will get the update in May, I think it will be in June or July or August,HTC don't care about older devices they want to sell the One series
[HTC Desire S] djisgod:
i dont know why you are all continuing to second guess htc,it will be out when its out speculating will get you nowhere and just fills this thread with unessential posts.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Why did you create this thread in the first place then?

All other device forums each have their own dedicated thread for updates discussion. People talk about info in the OTA etc.

Nothing wrong with discussion.
[HTC Desire S] djisgod:
because at the time the news was not on this site. this has now become nothing but people speculating about nothing .
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
You are right, but what's wrong with people speculating about some informations? Its not necessary, but also it does not harm anyone. I think its ok if its happening in a single thread. There was a time when about 1000 people opened new threads about that. was much more frustrating

Sent by my fingers to your head.
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
This thread is also a good place for people to concentrate their rage. If it wasn't here, we would have angry people abusing HTC in ICS ROM threads with camera issues. We don't want that now, do we ;)
[HTC Desire S] docertabum:
it reminds me a waiting for Froyo for Hero. HTC stated they will release the update but eventually they corrected their statement and didn't release the update... I hope it won't happen in this case...
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
That was one device, this time, there are 4 (Desire S,Incredible S, DHD, Incredible 2). if one gets the update, all MUST get it. If none gets the update, HTC is soooo screwed :p

Seriously though, if HTC wanted to make a correction, they would've done it a long time ago. It's been like 3 months since the announcement.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
Don't forget Sensation XL ;) althought it is ranked as a 'Better' brand than our phone is has the same specs. And that already has had leaked ROMs. It makes sense that HTC would make the update at the same time.

I bet the update has already been put together ffor us. Probably in testing phase by HTC employees, but no leak yet. Hopefully some employee will leak it!
[HTC Desire S] freedompie:
maybe HTC compiled the update along time ago. They`re just not releasing to make us feel ashamed for not upgrading to their one series
[HTC Desire S] Garz.SP:
Sure.
[HTC Desire S] mizerok:
You're right, i'm sure that update is already ready... we have to wait when HTC sells their new One series.

Sorry for english) :)
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
Just hope you guys are correct......

Swyped from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] Garz.SP:
I was kidding, I don't think so.
[HTC Desire S] suku_patel_22:
But still, hope you are right mate, want the kernel ...

Swyped from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I don't know why we have no leaks yet, HTC has to be working on the update, the Sensation update leaked long before release, so did One X/S/V RUUs. Maybe our device isn't that popular so no one leaked the RUU, even if someone did, anyone who found it didn't feel it's worth posting :( I think the leaks should surface from chinese sites like last time, but what if they are already there somewhere, and no one actually looked??
[HTC Desire S] Bulkatos:
If you don't trust this forum, you can check by your self.

XDA.cn - Desire S Official ROM Collection with google translater

I can't check, because i have no acc on xda.cn
[HTC Desire S] shrome99:
I've checked both anzhi and zhangku (chinese sites), nothing there. Football, who seems to be an expert at finding RUUs says that older devices need to wait till may or june..........
[HTC Desire S] :
i think this is a joke from htc and we will never get ics officialy...htc <BLING> i am disapointed and angry
[HTC Desire S] SimonTS:
Look who pops up yet again...

Ivanboba opened his mouth and this drivel spewed forth like sewage...

What is it with this guy? We all bought our Desire S phones with a certain version of software on it - and that is all we are really entitled (note the use of that word) to from HTC unless there is a requirement to fix a bug in the existing software.

I chose to root my phone because I wanted to try out different ROMs and this may give me the opportunity to obtain a working version of ICS at some point (either official or via the clever devs on this site). If it doesn't then I have no right to blame HTC at all - neither do any of us - as we weren't promised it and (for most of us) ICS wasn't even invented or talked about when we bought our phones.

The sooner this guy gets his head out of his arse (or wherever else he keeps it) the better.
[HTC Desire S] firkoo:
this is so exiting . i hope htc release this update soon.
[HTC Desire S] ben_pyett:
Easy

Ultimately we are all entitled to our own opinions (well, within reason) no matter how misguided they may be! ;)
[HTC Desire S] naytci:
Htc releases on 2nd quarter 2012. As soon as possible to get.
[HTC Desire S] :
thank you for sharing this with us, we had no clue when the update is going to hit.

At least we can stop looking for it for the next two and a half months.
[HTC Desire S] eyahl:
Source??

Sent by my fingers to your head.
[HTC Desire S] zibias:
Sensation XL ICS OTA ?http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1598423

Wysłane z mojego HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] :
that's great
[HTC Desire S] kapybarus:
What does it mean for us?