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[HD2 Android SD Development] thecharliec:
Hi berbar, ribou, kuzibri,

It seems I spoke too soon. Although my perception was that the SR build was better initially, after playing with it for an hour or so, it is back to its old ways with apps lagging on open. It got worse after I put more files on the card (music, pictures, etc)

Also, installing app updates from Play store was like torture...

Although in general the build feels ok, whenever the SDCard needs to be accessed it just slows down to a crawl. Normal has a much more 'even keel' feel about it.

The freshly SDFormatter formatted 16Gb Sandisk card I used has a very slow write 4K write speed as reported by Crystal DiskMark ... 0.001Mb/s ... I suspect that the SuperRam build has to swap to disk more causing the lag.

Out of about 6 SD cards, I have one 8Gb Sandisk card that has a 0.4Mb/s 4K write speed - that may fare better, though I think overall the SuperRam build is just not as good as normal for me ...:(
[HD2 Android SD Development] JMG01:
One observation - VPN is not working in this. Otherwise looks nice.
[HD2 Android SD Development] taospirit:
strange things this morning after starting my phone some of my app data were reinitialised...
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
6.6C Dorimanx

Hi all, i will the do the same as before:) See http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22687042&postcount=1 for kernel,i will remove this post when Robbie adds kernel to post 2:)

Robbie when you put kernel together add vpn fix,etc and bin folders.
[HD2 Android SD Development] hauler:
when I connect the phone to pc via USB, the phone activates USB storage mode automatically, how can I disable is? because every time after disconnecting from usb and rebooting,sistem becomes dead
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
6.6c on post #2

@hauler try disable usb debugging first in system/developer options. what do you mean system becomes dead after reboot? I have no probs using usb, apart from needing to reboot after adding data (I prefer to use wm6.5 to transfer data anyway, since my card reader broke)

@all, very weird that superRAM seems to access sd more than normal build, it should be other way around:confused:

It could be that tweaks etc aren't carried over after reboot. So that cpu and sd speed increase apps need to be used, to re-apply tweaks. Thanks for all your input and tests.
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Morning Robbie,

These are my thoughts on super ram problem, Since AOKP was released the size of this build has increased alot,Which does not cause problems for normal version but will for super ram as the original system folder needs to be 100mb or under and now its not.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Perhaps with build 33 superRAM there should be less pre-installed system apps, a more bare-bones build.

Looking at build 33 release http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/build-33-r18 it seems that init.d bash has been worked on. Perhaps v6 super charger might work, at least for normal build. We shall see on release from Xylograph:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi,

have a look into \ICS\Root folder. is it empty?? It should be. If not, this is causing your problem.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] thecharliec:
Hi Robbie / Wis,

Thanks for the interesting knowledge. That would explain a lot.

In bursts SuperRam does feel faster,

especially on a clean formatted SD card (thx Kuzibri) with nothing else on it.

@RobbieP, yes had to use SDSpeedIncrease to set 2048 cache every boot which improved things some more.

As I added music and picture files however, it started jamming up. (Possibly media scanner running v.slow). Also when the SD card comes into play in any way (installing apps) it crawls.

Perhaps some model HD2s also have more tolerance to the >100mb system partition ?

Looking fwd to v33 Normal and SR.

:) thx for all your efforts!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
Robbie, which one file fixes problem with reset navbar in v32 - Mod Pack AOKP32 v2 (8,87 MB) or Tosti_Modpack_AOKP32_V2_restore_defaults (3.93 MB)?

I just need to install that one that prevent loop with v32 normal (I decided to avoid superRAM this time) - nothing more.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Use the first one, I only put restore-defaults in for completeness (the bug re-appears with restore-defaults)

I am testing build33 normal ATM;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
So what do you suggest - waiting for v33 or using v32 and patching with that mod?

I am at the edge to wait for v33 if it's gonna be soon and of course if it's gonna be better!? ;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Wait buddy:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
I'll

JUST DO IT

!
[HD2 Android SD Development] taospirit:
hello

it would be great to have this Sense4 multitasking in this build , is it possible?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1589963
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Not without Xylograph adding it first;)

Build 33 normal on post#2

Edit; I didn't change startup.txt and put files in ics folder. Sorry 10 downloaders.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Hi,

you can do it yourself on your ICS build. See: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24622899

there is a guide how to do it and different downloads for several ICS ROM's, including AOKP, build 32.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
SuperRAM version in post#2 with edited startup.txt and in ics folder.:o

Am uploading normal again now but will leave the first one up. Sorry 50 downloaders.
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
To all users with AOKP32 Superram problems

Hi,

which Kernel are you using with your SR version which give you problems:Tytung or Dorimanx??

bets regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Mod Pack uAOKP33

see http://rootzwiki.com/topic/23418-mod-tabletui-for-240-dpi-legacy-devices-aokp-b32b33/ and DL the B33 version.

Same as usual meta-inf and system folders to sdcard/ics/root folder and reboot.

Thanks Xylograph, nice n easy this time for me.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
What does that Mod pack for v AOKP 33 mean - is it really necessary to add/install like in v AOKP 32 or it is just some additional things/apps but not so important?

Also, why is such a difference between normal and super RAM versions - first is 91 MB and second is only 64 MB package? I mean - what's that missing optional apps?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Xylograph:
Thanks to you guys for keeping the SD version so alive ;)

I hope you will get better sd-ram rom performance now since I have tried to strip as much as possible to get below the 100 mb without making the rom incomplete..

I think you can have a 'fully functional' rom @ 100 mb now (even with some additions)

Have fun !
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Hi Martin Mystere,

The mod pack is for tablet ui only, the other tweaks in 32 mod pack were to fix bugs etc. The mod pack should work across a few devices and is simple to install.

It is not necessary to install.

The difference between sizes is basically the additional optional apps. I used the tosti lite version and added a few apps (filemanager, stk, tether, hd2 util, modded nova launcher, email and gallery). It seems a lot faster to me (YMMV;)).

It should be ok to add the mod pack to superRAM version, it is 9Mb but overall the build is a lot lighter than 32.

@Xylograph, Cheers:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] JMG01:
Akop33 = very nice:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] c1cl0n:
Hi Robbie P

Thnx for AOKP33, very nice ROM

Can you tell me a filename of bootanimation of reboot device?

I'd founded only bootanimation.zip in /system/media/ but it's for boot device
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
Thanks Robbie, as usual very useful answer...

Just one more Question - after clean install, can I use old 1 GB data file from AOKP 31 v2 super RAM with AOKP 33 normal or can't.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
You can try;), it is recommended clean install. But someone here used a cm9 1.5 data.ext4 and it worked. I think the kernel should be the same beforehand, but I might be wrong.

Thanks MM
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
No idea, I thought that was it:) Sorry m8
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
Well, not exactly - with v31 SR I had dorimanx 6.6b and with v33 normal vanila kernel is tytung 1.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
I meant therefore change kernel to 6.6b before installing old data.ext4, but as I say, I might be wrong.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
I managed to get v6 supercharger http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=991276 to work 100% with B33 normal:D I only had 50% last time I tried with tosti10(http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24136615&postcount=883). It may be due to init.d bash fix in B33.

Installation needs a little dedication;)

I will see how it goes, and if i have time soon I will try again with superRAM.(Supercharged SuperRAM, super:))
[HD2 Android SD Development] thecharliec:
Shoot.... it's Monday morning in Sydney, have to go to work.... itching to try v33 :p
[HD2 Android SD Development] Mappazza:
..i've tried with an ext4 from SRAOKP31v2, and it seems to works without problems...even with DPI160...very thanks for your fantastic work... good night!! :D
[HD2 Android SD Development] trav_44:
risky

how do we know you havent been tinkering around with the programs if its unofficial tostidroid and its been released by you?
[HD2 Android SD Development] hboyer:
it was me, who used old cm9 1.5 data.ext4!

yes it worked and it still works!

will update to B33 shortly and report back (coming from B31 v2)

Thanks for your work!

Cheers
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
I guess you don't know for sure. Unless you checked each file for additions or alterations, from Xylograph's source, then from Kang team's sources...

I haven't tinkered, I ported, honest.

Edit; in fact this build was the easiest to port. See the portadroid thread and DIY;)
[HD2 Android SD Development] JMG01:
akop33 normal

Market crashes on me. any ideas?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Go to settings/ROM Control/start up tweaks/tick enable start up tweaks/tick fix permissions and reboot. Should work.

Hope we don't get a lot of this.
[HD2 Android SD Development] rv250:
Language (Traditional Chinese)

Hi!

The new version (AOKP33) is very smooth.

One problem for me.

When I switch language to Chinese Traditional (Taiwan)

I get lots of unknow characters.

Even if I install Morelocale2, I still can't solve the problem.

Any suggestion?

Thanks a lot!
[HD2 Android SD Development] JMG01:
Thanks, but Market still crashes for me.

That said, this is a remarkable ROM. Very fast and working VPN. I cant get flash to work (Skyfire) but guess that's due to my market problem. If Market can be fixed this will be my daily rom.:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Xylograph:
Yes :) chinese users need the additional 'multilanguage fonts' to get rid of the 'unknown' characters ;) Robbie or Wis can probably make you an additional file for import..
[HD2 Android SD Development] TeaMsTaZ:
This is a great build, so smooth tryed nand but i like sd alot better. . . only problem is i tryed about 4 different kernels and none of the have working with bluetooth music controls. . . i am using a nokia bh-503 headset, well thanks for the continued support for my HD2. . . if its not the number one phone ever made, it better be in the top five dead or alive. . .

My HD2 . . . Know Kung Fu lol . . .screen broke . . .fixed that and now its back kicking
[HD2 Android SD Development] hauler:
well, I mean that I unplug USB, reboot my device and get a 6 minute loading( like it's my first booting),and after booting I have a completely clear rom, without anything I have installed

---------- Post added at 07:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:21 AM ----------

I have disabled a debug mode, I will check if it worked later and i will write you
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
HI togerher,

My feeling is the same as thecharliec's. Yeasterday I've had a longer journey with my car. On my device BT and Data are running. In the time of 7 hours I've had about 6 boots by the phone themthelf. It seems that kernel 66.b has some problems.

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[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
on build 33 I've also FC phone, same like build 32... that's so annoying :mad:
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
See attached, meta-inf and system to /ics/root folder and reboot. Remember to check /ics/root folder is empty before next boot.

Md5=2aabcaa1dcd0c9825582759218464009
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
That sounds like overheating, you may want to lower overclocking a bit.

Have you tried fixing permissions, SRAM users should install rom manager and only use the fix permissions.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
It sounds like your data.ext4 was deleted and the build builds a new one each time. Very odd. Make regular backups and use wm6.5 or card reader to access sd.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Try installing the new google play apk, but you may have trouble with custom lcd densities.
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
hey robbie, I've tried the normal version, but I can try SRAM version and run fix permission, but I think the problem is another one, cause this FC excists since build 32 :(

greets
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
For those wanting google talk, see http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25199261&postcount=2566

For those wanting instagram to work, see http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25198608&postcount=2562

Same install as usual.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Does it FC when using phone to call?

(Fix permissions can be run from rom control start-up tweaks in normal version.)
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
no always FC, when the phone starts and I have to enter PIN then just FC com.android.phone and I have to enter PIN again and so on... now I've tried SRAM version and still the same :(
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Try removing sim and boot up. If boots then try fixing permissions.
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
ok, I'll try mate

edit: no changes :(
[HD2 Android SD Development] c1cl0n:
Now my WiFi working fine

:D ... it's fantastish
[HD2 Android SD Development] hauler:
i do it with backups very regulary)) I am using magdlr so I cant use my rom with wm 6.5(it simply doesnt load), about card reader, i know, but some times i need my phone as a midi keyboard for music production, so thats my point)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Hi red_guard, sorry to hear that. I can't think what it can be. Can you post your set up. As much info as possible.

I am not a dev or programmer, I try to help, but there are things I just don't know. Perhaps if you and hauler are able/willing to post logcats, someone here may be able to see what the problems are.
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
hmm ok...

HTC HD2 Europe

8GB class 4 SD Card

boot via haret.exe on stock WiMob 6.5

build 31 v2 SRAM works for me without any FC, so it must have sth. to do with some changes in build 32 and 33... :confused:
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
Superb ROM! Definitely the best I've used so far - fast and smooth.

I had only a problem with the market but I solved it by installing newer version of market and now everything works great.

I noticed only one weird thing - in apps I see two apps with same name Camera but one open real Camera and the second one open Facebook... Hmmm....
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Im guessing you use facebook:) It the new update for facbook it creates that:D
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
AOKP33 SR

Hi Robbie and Craig, this is by far the best ROM MHO. It's fast and untill now stable and it's definitely "Superram fast".

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Martin Mystere:
On the contrary - I despite Facebook, and even don't have a profile (don't even want it) but good try...:D
[HD2 Android SD Development] morph80:
Tried latest build (Dorimanx super ram) and although it seems ok while using it, it's slow to wake from lockscreen and Angry Birds Space runs slow motion. Not quite the result I was hoping for...
[HD2 Android SD Development] doniGforce:
in magldr boot from sd .... Load zimage K: /zImage ... SD kernel open failed

:( been using android sd from the begining never had this. should I replace intrid.gz or smth ???
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Pls check that your file folder (ics) matches that named in ad sd dir. Also check md5.

The initrd.gz should be ok for magldr and wm6.5
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Try using AOKP33 Superram with original Tytung's kernel. Works fine for me!!

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] doniGforce:
thanks, I had ICS as as sd dir (usually recheck it ) but somehow wasn't working. I reselected ICS and it booted :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] JMG01:
Installed the new market (play) mod app, and that now runs fine. :) The VPN I had running yesterday wont run now. Back up to gmail also struggles to restore and gives up. Flash does not seem to work. But, apps from market install, and the rom is very fast, (though, it looks a bit battery hungry...):rolleyes:
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Hi Robbie,

my temperature diagram shows me a max. temp of 104°F. This is not to high. Today I'm going back to kernel 6.5D and all was ok.
[HD2 Android SD Development] mr_billionaire:
Was using this build, but the UI icons for phone, Calender, browser and contacts were blurry and looked bad.
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Witch kernel do You use?
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Just installed the latest Dorimanx kernel without any problems, like SD Card mounting, etc. Did this because with Tytung's one my WiFi was not working. With Dorimanx it does work!!

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Hi Kuzibri,

What build norm/super are you running?
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
AOPK33 Superram with the latest Dorimanx Kernel.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Hi Robbie,

One question. I want to test to format the SD card additionaly with an 2 GB ext4 partition. I want to use this partition as data partition. Do you know which system file has to be changed for mounting this partion as data?

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Do you allready install all your apps, pics, music....How fast your apps are starting?
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
Yes I did, but I'm not the kind of person to install a lot of music! Pictures and apps, yes I do. I'm a business user not a game player or whatever (too old for that :)). The apps open pretty fast IMO.

best regards, Kuzibri

---------- Post added at 09:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 PM ----------

This is in principle no reason at all to not use this build cause you can use Icon Canger from Market to change them to your likings.

best regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kwany2010:
My gallery keeps crashing when I try to open a photo in the normal AOKP33, which also affects using Instagram. Is anyone else having this problem?

Everything else about this build is pretty good so far!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
No idea m8

I might be wrong, but isn't your data.ext4 already used successfully by SD android? Note that there is a limit to the number of partitions allowed on an sd (4 I think).

However, a swap partition might prove beneficial.
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
From post#3 Xylograph's thread..

"- Gallery issues :

If the Gallery application is force closing on you delete the data/cache of it via application management."

Hope it works for you.

Edit; Did you install instagram fix?
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
I dont use VPN. There is a VPNdialog app in the normal build, IDK if it will work but you could try clearing data in settings/apps/all/VPNdialog, I can't find info on what this apk does, so do so at your own risk.:)

Do you mean google backup and restore apps? It has only worked for me once on B32.

Flash wont work without hardware acceleration, but there is a promising post from dorimanx today http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25216019&postcount=4083 thanks I think to Xylograph's nudging.
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Yes, normaly my data.ext4 is used by SD android. This is a file based partition. My idea is to make one SD card based partion for the data (ext4) and a second for the SD android (FAT32, Primary Active).
[HD2 Android SD Development] Kwany2010:
I deleted the data (but not cache as there was nothing in it), but still same problem!

And I figured the Instagram problem was linked to the gallery problem, I'll try the fix to see if that makes any difference, thanks!
[HD2 Android SD Development] kuzibri:
I use the latest AOKP33 with the latest Dorimanx kernel and do not have any problem with the gallery.

nest regards, Kuzibri
[HD2 Android SD Development] red_guard:
Dorimanx 6.6c, but I think this is not the problem... FC also with r1 kernel
[HD2 Android SD Development] jesseserna:
I'm having the same issue. :confused:
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
For those having problems with gallery, try QuickPics from market.
[HD2 Android SD Development] wis1152:
Robbie, check what gallery apk you added when porting?There are two:)

Attached them below:)
[HD2 Android SD Development] thecharliec:
Hi Wis / Robbie / Xylograph,

As a user who's HD2 had issues with the original AOKP31v2 SuperRAM (with both DMX and Tytung kernel), after playing with AOKP33 SR for a day it is much improved :). It is noticeably faster out of the box.

As I load it with apps however, I do notice the performance decrease, and occasionally it shows flashes of the old behaviour with hangs .. mostly SD access related, and the occasional total freeze (though that could be kernel related - DMX 6.6a)

In a terminal, I ran the linux 'df' command and got the following for the system partitions:

FileSystem Size Used Free BlkSize

bootsystem 157M 106M 50M 4096

system 96M 33M 63M 1024

My question is this - Can any of the 'Used' figures above act as an indication that we have loaded our SuperRam build too much?, leading to lags - or should we be looking elsewhere? .. would the 'du' command be able to give an indication?

thanks in advance for all your efforts and help

thecharliec :)
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Gallery2.apk was ported. So users can try the other, or quickpics:) Thanks wis1152
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
Thanks thecharliec for this post, I did a fresh install of uAOKP33 superRAM and only installed terminal emulator.

df shows

FileSystem Size Used Free BlkSize

bootsystem 157M 102M 55M 4096

system 96M 33M 63M 1024

So not much difference between fully loaded B32 sram and whippet-like B33 sram, according to these figures.

not sure about du but I tried it with B33 sram (the fresh install) and B33 sram (with B32 data.ext4) and the list from the fresh install was much shorter (still over 1 page).

I still think that apps 2 sd (or via app management) is the way to go with B32 (and B33) sram.

Edit; just saw your edit, we are looking at the same build:o:D:D:D. sorry.
[HD2 Android SD Development] thecharliec:
Hi RobbieP,

Thanks for comparing with your own test builds. I can see that the disk free space is not varying very much.

So then I guess the question to ask is how can we as users verify if we are going over the magic ‘100Mb‘ threshold? Or is this something inherent in the port that is not affected by how many apps we as users install?

Although b33SR generally very smooth, still a few too many lockups for me. About to try normal.... thanks again!
[HD2 Android SD Development] Robbie P:
On build 32 sram (not fresh data.ext4)

df gives

FileSystem Size Used Free BlkSize

bootsystem 184M 163M 20M 4096

system 96M 44M 51M 1024

So there is a marked difference between B32 and B33 srams in system and bootsystem.
[HD2 Android SD Development] berbar:
Here are the values for a full installed 31v2.

Filesystem Size Used Free

system 96M 44M 51M

bootsystem 212M 156M 55M