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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TheBoldImperator:
It's not Samsung's fault, for the most part. The American (and certain other carriers from different countries) demand unique devices for marketing purposes. Usually it just means changing the body shell like in the AT&T SGSII variant, but other carriers demand bigger screens, or changing the CPU entirely so it can support various frequency bands. For most of the world, the international SGSII remains standard.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] 80centjack:
I flashed the Evervolv Xiphias Preview 2 ROM from the Skyrocket XDA forum last night. It works on our phone amazingly smoothly, but is obviously not ready as a daily driver. They asked that we not post about it here, but I'm pretty sure we can talk about what we want.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
he doesn't want the rom posted over here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] defconoi:
If our phones get ics and not jellybean then that's fragmentation and bs
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
considering phones are just now (aside from nexus) on the verge of being updating with ICS, and you still can't buy a non nexus ICS phone out of the box I can't see jellybean actually coming on phones until after this phone is over a year old. If you are really that uptight about your version of android you should have a new phone at least every year. When this phone reaches its one year annerversary date noone will care about any of the sII lines because SIII will be here
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] vomer:
once samsung releases their touchwized ICS for our phones...will there be an option to have the stock look and feel?

I am assuming this will be done via some ROMs that devs post?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TheBoldImperator:
No one should ever have to buy the latest phone just to get the latest update. It is a major failing on Google's part. Imagine if ARM was the norm and you were forced to buy a new desktop yearly just to get the latest version of Windows.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] degeneration:
That's making some large assumptions. It's not the processor's fault, it's the manufacturer who puts all these various parts (some made by them) and neglects to give out the drivers like our computer component manufacturers do.

Any how, there is some truth and some not to what was said. First: if you want the latest OS then buy a Nexus. That's a pretty simple solution. It might not have the best hardware but until it's hardware is so crappy that it's barely chugging along you will have the newest OS.

Second, this is much like younger computers. The hardware is advancing so quickly that the OS can out grow it pretty quick. I remember needing a new computer (or parts) because my computer just couldn't handle the OS any more, and I'm only 25. One possible option is for us all to be stuck with one OS for a long time while our phones start to not take advantage of hardware because they aren't used to their full capabilities. I don't vote for that personally, that's why I like android.

Comparing our computers (which have been around a while) to our smart phones (which are still in their awkward ages where they aren't sure exactly what they should be doing just yet) isn't all that fair.

To sum up, I don't think it's Google's fault since they can't control the distribution of drivers. They give us everything they can, but we need drivers. It's also fair to say that you will need to keep buying new phones pretty regularly. Dual core is only around a few years old I think, and I don't think that is taking into account when we could actually buy them. Quad core is just hitting, and the year after that things will probably keep going up at least speed wise. All that is just the processor, and since the OS has to tailored for the lowest common denominator of the time it will need to be upgraded as the hardware standard goes up or that beefy hardware will mostly go to waste.

Lastly, the phones are like computers, but they aren't. Until we all are able to solder SMD on a micro scale we probably won't be able to change out parts (unless you want a big phone, which would be an enthusiast level device at best and pretty niche).

So, TL;DR I disagree, but I am probably pretty wrong also.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] markusf21:
That is how windows is. They put so much garbage in each new version that upgrading is a PITA. Your old PC won't run the lastest windows properly without replacement or significant upgrade.

Sent from next year on my CM 10ed G-Mobile Galaxy Note 2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] shaggyskunk:
I don't know about that, I've got a couple of Dell laptops... One is about 6 months old and the other is about 6 YEARS old, they both run Win 7 with no issues, mind you the 6 yr old one is a tad slower... MS have also been pretty good about keeping xp up to date for as long as they have.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gabriel713281:
I'm ready to switch phones, all I want is ICS I can't wait 5+ months for Tmobile to release it... I'm just waiting on someone to start so I can start donating... This is what I get for buying the best phone on the market...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] unlvmike:
I'm on the same boat man. Ready to donate to someone who can deliver.

There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Reviewers:
i'm going to keep trying , XaviER will edit a stock kernel and we'll see what we could get happening this week , i don't want to see argueing once i create a thread and release Alpha #1 , it will only be booting and display nothing else working not even sound or anything .

Official ICS is going to be released Q1 which will be in less than 5 month's .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Radsolutionz:
Do what u can and if we all work together we can do this... good luck
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Exodian:
You ever waited on Sammy to push a new android build out? If they say q1 you will be lucky to see it by q3. Samsung is notorious for being horrible with updates.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
This is exactly what I was referring to. Those complaining are name calling equally as much.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] the_scotsman:
Ok, this thread is going nowhere. Obviously the ICS thread is no longer available.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jamespwolpert:
ICS?

Anyone working on a vanilla ICS port to the tmo SGS II?

*Never mind. Thread in the Q&A section about it. Sorry guys.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] aranurea:
ICS Port?

Is there an ICS port for the T989 yet or is Domination still the closest to ICS that we have. I hated the Domination ROM. It was very much like BeastMOD and sloppy.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Exodian:
There is no ics port yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
domination isn't any closer to ICS then using an ICS launcher and theme on juggs, beastmod, or whatever.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1341526
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] FiveOhFox:
Lol. No ICS port yet. The only reason you were mislead to think Domination was 'ICS' was because of q's ICS theme that you were instructed to flash after flashing Domination.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ThC23:
Domination, Lol!! ICS, Lol!! Not even close. I'm guessing by Feb we should have something, at least a beta or something. At least I hope.

Powered by the SGSII....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Djapatos:
Lets just hope Sammy keeps his word. It says 1st quarter so from Jan to Mar... We ll see
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TheMrRoxtar:
that statement has been recanted and they now say they the galaxy s 2 phone will not recieve ics due to the tw launcher compatability issues

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Rekzer:
That only involved the Galaxy S 1's and Tab's. The GSII is fully upgradable.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] s10shane:
u might wanna go back and read what they said. "Samsung Says No To Ice Cream Sandwich On Original Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab 7″ Line". where does it say the GSII?

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/sams...dwich-on-original-galaxy-s-galaxy-tab-7-line/

there is no way any of the GSII devices wont get the ICS update im sure
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] clninja:
ALSO....they even came back and said that they are now going to try to make ics work on gs1

Gs2 is without question getting the update

And domination is a package that some 14 year old kid put togethor that is 2.3.6 themed to look like ics..he didn't even create the rom or theme just put them togethor
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
what does age have to do with it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Reviewers:
Uhm , i don't think you flashed it it's including much more than just a theme , font , bootanimation , sounds , notifications , binaries and much more . It's ment to be a ICS clone and if you look at the build's of ICS and compare it to this it has the same image's , sounds , default ringtones , boot animation and theme and everything to give you a taste of ice cream sandwich .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mr_malina:
I disagree. My 9 year old Dell desktop runs Windows 7 just as well as it ran XP.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] avarize:
Really?

No......I mean....Really? You're worried about Jellybean?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] shaggyskunk:
:thumbup:

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] avarize:
ITT Lately : People worried Windows 17 won't run on their Acer netbook :p
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Its pretty easy to get Windows to boot on any system that has the hardware specs even if it boots with generic drivers. A new version comes out and it generally works even if its not with all the features. All of this even with the greater variation in hardware that pcs have.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
Just give you an idea what would fragmentation. Having to buy the same app you bought on your iphone 4s on your ipad 2 for a hd version is fragmentation. Not having siri on one device and having it another is fragmentation.

Lets say we have ics and jellybean doesn't have have really any things that are jellybean orientated. As long as there is no added functionality that can be added to the phone as well and work efficiently. They can come out with jellybean as long as all the apps and functionality the same as ice cream sandwich. Not having chrome on gingerbread isn't fragmentation its the developer fault for not making it work for lower versions android. Apps like superuser and rom manger have worked on lower version of androids before.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
LOL. You fanboied it and redefined fragmentation and applied the definition selectively

Siri is an added software feature like panoramic cam in ICS. If it is fragmentation in iOS its fragmentation as well in ICS.

You realize the HD apps are pretty much add ons made by the developers to make money. That isnt fragmentation. It is the same free nonfree app money making scheme that has been around for a while.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
The point is honestly not trying to fan boy it there shouldn't two apps for the same os. Just because its a different device. There also developers fault by not having backwards compatibility in their own app. It is easy to make an app know what version of android your running and remove the functions that only work on higher applications. There are other ways to make money like in app purchases. Part is the developer fault as well. Even if you had modular drivers to make it easier to update and every phone came with stock android. Most other manufactures wouldn't stand a chance.

Android is in competition with itself as well as there other mobile oses. In the end its all business sell a phone with ics leave the old phones in the dust. Then you have the U.S carriers part of the problem. They change hardware and other things on the phone. I'm not saying samsung or any is better than apple but Samsung does support their original device. HTC does support their original device sensation. When things get to the U.S we get all these different devices. Which were originality one device.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
I dont think this is true because PC and windows manage to do it with their products. NVIDIA alone puts out more GPUs for PC than the amount of GPUs used for all manufacturers for mobile phones. Everyone knows most phones are pretty similar. T989 is similar to the touchpad and the note . The specs for phones are close enough that there shouldnt be the amount of trouble that there currently is. Why cant there be generic drivers?. I install ubuntu in my machine and it loads generic drivers that may not have openCL support but at least its a functional OS. Its Googles job to gather the people working with their OS like Windows does. Windows deals with an exponentially bigger amount of hardware configurations and still boots fine as long the hardware is compatible. Everyone just wants to let Google off the hook for a legitimate concern?

In reality the real reason is it doesnt change Googles bottomline so they dont care.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
I am not saying it isn't Google fault as well. Right now android isn't a mature os like windows and mac. They will probably go that path eventually. Mac are seeing this with with ios. Windows will probably see it with windows 8. Compared to the bigger guys google is only mobile it works great on phones. When google has better computer options chrome books are a joke. ICS on a tablet is nice but not something people can replace their laptop and desktops with yet. The actual os has to mature more. Because changing to generic drivers is a big move a lot of older devices will be left behind. What i see is they are trying to put out updates as fast as possible where your phone turns into actual desktop experience. Once they perfect that they can make that big jump to generic drivers.

Google wants you hooks to Google services. The more services they that are useful to you the more you want Google devices you will buy phones and eventually laptops. Android is open source so I'm guessing google feels that manufactures are open to do what they want with the source. They are trying hardly to make some sort of unified experience.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TheBoldImperator:
Doesn't work like that. Every specific ARM chip needs to have its OS specifically compiled for it. Drivers aren't really the biggest problem. This is why you can't flash the i9100's CM9 port onto our device despite both CPUs in both devices being based on the ARM ISA.

Google can't do anything. Android is open source and released under a permissive license (save for the kernel, which is released under the GPL). Anyone can take the code and use it as they wish, and Google can't do anything about it. This is half of the entire reason why Android is so ubiquitous now. The only reason Google has any swing at all is because of the proprietary GAPPs that they license.

Also, another problem (in America) is that the American carriers demand specific phones geared toward their carrier and nothing more, for marketing reasons. This makes it even harder for OEMs to upgrade them when the time rolls around. And, a lot of times, the carrier simply holds off or blocks the OEM from updating because they want to brow beat people into buying the latest and greatest.

The only way to truly guarantee updates across multiple phones is to use the system Microsoft uses for Windows Phone, where every device is effectively the same internally per generation, and updates are delivered directly through their own desktop client.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
If its partially due to ARM wouldnt this be fixed with Intel going into the market with their architecture.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
you can give a man boobs, a dress, long hair, and lip stick but in the end its still a man.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mstrk242:
Lol. That really made me laugh.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Reviewers:
don't think you read my V2.0 post , i said it's 2.3.6 CLONED TO BE LOOK LIKE ICS WITH THE THEME , i don't think people read .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
i read it, you made it look like ics on 2.3.6 I can do the same with jugg and the ICS theme package. you say its much more than a theme but it just looks like ICS. It isn't ICS I like your rom a ton more than beastmod but looking like ICS isn't anyhting new
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] aranurea:
So how do i flash a theme?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] aranurea:
@FiveOhFox no. I knew it wasnt a ICS but i wanted to try the rom and see what it was like. I didnt like it because almost nothing worked. Widgets didnt work, keyboards were glitching and thw walpapers werent even live. I have an ICS live wallpaper on 2.3.5 and its great. Best wallpaper ever.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TheMrRoxtar:
holly ****..thank you God...I deff. didn't read that one right...and here I've been crying in the corner for at least a week masturbating with my own tears

...IM SAVVVEEEEDDD THANK YOUU SHHANNEEE

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] aranurea:
That was, uh...nice to know....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jjhappen:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20910027&postcount=7
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jaythe01:
[q] ics galaxy nexus/ nexus s *vanilla* rom for sgII ?

hey guys....

I have been patiently waiting for Samsung to announce a timetable for update to ICS. ill be honest, while this phone is nicely spec'd, Touchwiz and Samsung are completely unreliable.

I am wondering if anyone out there is cooking up or finding some method to have stock ICS or Nexus S (vanilla android) run on the SG2 (sans touchwiz and all of Samsungs bloatware) and deliver to the masses what Google intended for all of us android faithful?

the 989 is in many ways far better than GNex with the exception of ROM/Skin.

PLEASE someone SAVE US!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Watcher64:
Your kidding with this post right???

There are threads even on the first page of this forum about an ICS port ....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1421445

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1422912

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1359525

But let me sum up ...

Samsung already said Q1 2012

CM9 is "being worked on"

The Nexus S is different hardware than ours ....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jaythe01:
wouldnt a nexus one rom 2.3.6 GB work since snapdragon is used on both? i just want the samsung hardware sans theyre bs and politics.

CM9 usually doesnt solve the issue of a pure experience. its altered for the worst in some cases.

q1 can be anytime from 1/1 to 3/31 with no guarantees
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Watcher64:
Maybe in theory , but Nexus S , has, different camera both front and back, different display, different storage, different CPU(same type diff model), NO SDcard slot, yada yada, and a lot of the drivers for these things are compiled into the Kernel ..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jaythe01:
the theory part is the only kicker. but i wonder if its feasible considering the N1 to HD2 porting. doesnt have to be NS but just a stock experience with all the updated specs.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Watcher64:
What it comes down to is, IF it were easy we would all do it, IF it was available someone would do it.

AND I really am not trying to be rude but there are several threads already talking about this subject, you may have found all your answers in those ....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] kenvan19:
Also having actually used cm9 on the nexus s let me say a few things: 1) its absolutely bone stock except for notification toggles. That's it.

2) its laggy as hell right now and I'm even using koushs kang.

3) using ics in general is tough because everything is just SO different.

Sent from my Hercules with xda Premium.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xsteven77x:
I was with you till you said it is difficult cause it is different. It is REFRESHING cause it is different.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ml2514:
You can always wait... if anything comes out it'll be in the rom section... till then just wait or go and be a developer.

Sent from my SGH-T989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] wiswis:
i want to get this phone but without an ics rom it will be boring
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] aranurea:
No it wouldn't. I like the Paradox ROM. I just installed it and it is amazing. Anyway, you can download the Domination V2.0 ROM which is a ICS THEMED ROM, not a PORT.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
then don't buy this phone go with the amaze. wait they don't have a fully functional one. OK drop a ton of cash on a gsm nexus and sacrifice phone for a new OS in which app devs still are updating so it works with ICS

you sir are boring, time to go back to watching Saints/Lions
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xneolithicspx:
Go lions lmao, anyways ics will come soon enough.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AllGamer:
duplicated

use search
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] atquick:
ICS port?

Anyone working on this?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] 01010001:
No one will until Samsung releases the ICS source for this device, and that hasn't happened yet. Be patient.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mrpanic7:
ICS Aosp

Hey just curious if anyone knows if any devs are working on aosp ics build aside from what cyanogen is doing. Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] unlvmike:
Its a secret....shhhhnohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] zander145:
As far as I am aware of, no.

I think Samsung or tmobile said they would get ICS out in Q1 2012 but I could have misread.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
Pretty much

Samsung is working on ICS

and

Cyanogen and folks are waiting on Samsung for display and other drivers

and

Other ROM developers are waiting for Cyanogen source to come out to use as

a base

so in summary

Samsung->CM->Other ROM developers

hopefully the CM dependency on Samsung releases isnt a continuing trend.

Your best hope is to setup a bounty for "Samsung"
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
Tom Brady is working on it. Gronkowski is going to theme it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] phreshjoker:
Get out troll... and take your smart allic comments with you
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mbernusg:
I'd say lay off the kid no need to freak out.. its smart "Alec" but..

I'm a Jets fan so GET OUT TROLL J E T S

sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Watcher64:
And like posting yet ANOTHER ICS thread is NOT Trolling ...

Yeah umm there are enough of these threads ....

Can a MOD please Merge this with the other ones ......
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
that was my thought in making the comment in the first place, I mean how often does this thread pop up? Its lazy posting so why not another useless comment (my own)

The guy who called me a troll may be a Ravens fan. What a shanked kick