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[Gen9 Android Development] hotrodder:
Hey all, I know this is a development area - but there is no General section for the G9... anyway...

I have an 80 Gen 9 original none hard drive none turbo which im installing in my car. So far it looks really really good - ill post a video when i finally get the facia on it. However I am struggling to keep up with the charge power wise.

I originally brought a tomtom microusb charger - which according to form puts out 1 amp (not enough). This works fine on my HTC evo 3d, but cant keep up with the power consumption of the 80. It does not show as a "slow" charger.

I then brought an adapter off ebay that has a 2.1a and a 1a port. These originally showed as slow, so I made an adapter cable shorting the data pins so it knows its a charger - but neither port can keep the thing powered, and both these and the tomtom 1 amp seem to discharge at the same speed while plugged in.

Im waiting on one from newmp3technology that is stated as a fast charger for the archos g9...

Now, on the device i have turned off bluetooth and wifi turned off, backlight always on at around 1/2 brightness, and i have it running an external laptop hard drive off the port on the back. GPS gets turned on when necassary - but doesnt really seem to negatively affect the power situation (which was kinda surpising). Ive set the maximum CPU usage at just 600mhz to try and kerb the power consumption also. While driving i have Poweramp continually playing, and have used copilot on and off for sat nav. It doesnt drop fast - but nor is it staying fully charged. Im sure I had no problems with this while on AC power in the house.

If anyone knows of a working fast charger, or has a suggestion I would be most greatful. I may between now and then test with an invertor and ac power supply. One other idea I have is to run the USB hard drive with a powered USB hub, to move the power consumption away from the device.
[Gen9 Android Development] jadephyre:
I believe there was one of those dual-usb chargers from Belkin, but knowing them the charger could be pretty expensive.

It also has one 2 amp and one 1 amp slot, though I have not tried it yet.
[Gen9 Android Development] cajl:
i have this

http://www.newmp3technology.com/francais/all-Archos-model-charger.htm
[Gen9 Android Development] TjaXanK:
This is an other option www.newmp3technology.com/francais/archos-101-80-g9-cigar-split.htm
[Gen9 Android Development] over's tab:
I also need to be able to run/ charge my 80G9 turbo on the road for long periods.

first the basics, the original Archos cable must be used to get max charge (its short and has the log like thing inline near tablet) every other cable/ wall charger I have tried will only give weak charge and if using tablet with other cable it may never charge at all *if you know this great, but everyday others have to find this out the slow or no charge way

now, that applies to the wall plug for sure but with a cigarette lighter usb adapter I'm not so sure you will get enough juice just with that cable. If there is a 12V adapter or complete plug and usb cord that gives full needed output, great. until its used and proven (real world) I don't know if it exist yet.

the best alternative may be to use a Power Inverter like one below, there are so many available I don't know if the ones with usb outlets would work, I have a cheap inverter I need to try but just with factory Archos wall plug & cable (I've used it in the past to power a hand grinder etc. with no problem, car battery stayed charged up even when vehicle was off)

http://www.amazon.com/Wagan-2003-6-...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329710122&sr=1-17
[Gen9 Android Development] jadephyre:
I use the original Wall-Charger that came with the Tablet in conjunction with an HTC USB Cable that came with my HTC Desire.

It's charging as fast as with the original Archos USB Cable.

Even the small Wall-Charger from the Desire charges the Tablet very fast.
[Gen9 Android Development] hotrodder:
OK Ive received the so called fast charger from newmp3technology and it registers as a slow charger using the original supplied cable from archos. It took 17 days to arrive... not particularly happy with newmp3technology.

Anyway, I have found that the tomtom charger does actually charge the system while it is active - even though its only a 1 amp charger and the system requires 1.5 amp. Over about a week of driving for approx 1.5 - 2 hours a day the charge has risen from 0% to 19%. I had a USB extension (no more than 1 meter long) in line with the charger and that actually slowed the rate of charge.

The system is active the whole time - usually playing music through power amp, and sometimes using GPS via copilot. Ill test again to see that it can still maintain charge with GPS running. These devices really only require a small amount of power - I used to run a full computer in car and that pulled a bunch of power.
[Gen9 Android Development] jawiler:
Here's the general section :)

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1511
[Gen9 Android Development] hotrodder:
No Probs - unfortunately that section did not exist when i created this thread...
[Sony Tablet S] animaleyes76:
Anyone know if OTA Rootkeeper might be any use to you rooters?

I haven't rooted yet but plan too but it claims "Every honeycomb tablet" blah blah, especially as there is supposed to be a new OTA update on the way shortly.

https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
[Sony Tablet S] unclespoon:
Interesting! I'm certainly willing to try. This thread should probably be moved to general, however.
[Sony Tablet S] animaleyes76:
Good call, and apologies, i had mutiple windows open and posted in the wrong one :(
[Sony Tablet S] unclespoon:
It's OK, it's definitely worth trying once we get the ICS OTA!!!
[Sony Tablet S] animaleyes76:
Added in general..

admin, please delete this thread
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] 0f0:
How can we turn "Network Lock" to OFF? on our Galaxy W?

We need FREE solution of course.

Is here anyone who is able to write some code for it?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Aarush:
I am on .42 fw n my games are pausing on their own.. Its very irritating :(

It happened before when i did OTA.. but then i used SEUS to get it fixed but now its happening again on its own..

Now i dont wanna use SEUS again.. Coz i have to make backup for that which is very annoying

Can anyone help me out on this?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pmuch12345:
Hello,

After the latest OTA release (9.4.2.13) I am having the following issues:

- Putting tablet into sleep mode (unit on, screen turned off) with WiFi off causes

tablet to shut off after approx. 10-15 minutes. To turn tablet back on I have to hold the

power button in for approx. 10 seconds.

Before this update I NEVER had this problem. WiFi is set to always stay on in Settings.

This also occurs if I set to turn WiFi off when the screen if off (in Settings).

- The battery seems to be discharging much faster now. Before the update, the battery

would last approx. 7-8 hours under normal use (web surfing, email, etc). Now, I'm lucky if I get 5-6 hours.

I currently do not have any emperical evidence to back this up. It just

seems to be draining faster. I will check to see if an app or some process

may be causing this issue.

This latest update has really annoyed me given these issues. I had none

of the issues that this update is supposed to fix (lockups, reboots, Wifi problems).

Up to this point, I have really loved this tablet. Now, I think about its problems every time I use it.

Please fix these issues and give us a tool that will allow us to revert back to older firmware releases.

Thanks for listening.

-Paul
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JanetPanic:
So you have wifi off and the setting for wifi to always be on in settings and it locks up. If you turn wifi on does it not lock up? I tried to duplicate the problem but could not. I turned off wifi on settings and was able to sleep and power on the device without troubles. (For the record Bluetooth was also off.) I believe you are having a problem but do not think the root cause is what you suspect. Maybe it is a program you have installed that I do not or vice versa. If you can hook your tablet up to a computer and capture a logcat perhaps something will show up.

Alternatively is it maybe how long you let it sleep? I only left it off for the count of ten.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pmuch12345:
I turn Wifi off prior to putting tablet into sleep mode to save on battery power.

I have not tried to leave WiFi on while in sleep mode. I will try this.

It seems to me, whether WiFi is On or Off when putting the tablet

into sleep mode should not cause the tablet to turn off after a short period

of time.

I will have to test, but the tablet is in sleep mode for at least 10-15 minutes

when it shuts off.

BTW, I never had this issue prior to this OTA release. I would be really

surprised if an application is causing this issue.

Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rootusr:
I'm not having this issue and never had it, just like the last post says it can be caused by some application, what if you guys share the list of installed apps with some app like App Dragon App Lister (free in the market) then you can find if there are something in common, Are your primes rooted? mine is not.

regards
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] eduardmc:
After the OTA i get this problem that restart every 10-15 minutes. I has been happening it me and i have been blaming the dock but now i see is the OTA that has cause this problem. Come on Asus, u can do better than this.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Yep, there IS an issue.

Last use last night was at 11:45pm and I was at 67% and at 7:07 I was at 44%. 23% overnight and while in deep sleep AND I use Tasker to shut Sync and BT and Wifi off at 10:30 pm IF they are on and I never use IPS and I am usually in Power Savings mode, so you cannot blame it on these things. Not good!

Better Battery shows AlarmReceiver as highest battery user at a mere laughable 2.8%

BUT CPU Spy shows 5:35 time in 475 clock speed... And since no other apps are clelarly burning my battery... it must be this low end 475.

Thanks Asus for (1) taking back the 1400 you gave us (2) taking back lower end 102-375 speeds I would use (3) forcing us to sit at 475 when we could be lower (4) giving me a battery drain issue I never had. Thanks :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] u010679:
Confirmed, I am experiencing the same issue. Had to cold boot wake up after routine sleep mode this morning. Note battery dropped 50% while unused.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] G37:
If you want it to go to Gary, PM him.

---------- Post added at 05:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:33 PM ----------

Your post was on the right track until I read your last paragraph. So unnecessary. I like your perspective to be able to hold Asus accountable/responsible in making sure our primes work like we want it to -- but all your posts end up soiling the conversation, and it's not just one or two, its all of them. Help us out here...please
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Frooty:
So does anyone know if there is a way to revert back to the .11 update? That seemed to work the best for everyone and it'd be great to just go back to a working update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] punchup:
Just to pile on, I am also seeing battery usage and awake time when it should be sleeping where as before everything was fine.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Feiwen:
Battery was 76% last night in balanced mode before i went to bed. Woke up this morning at 8am and battery is dead, Never had an issue before this new update :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JanetPanic:
The battery savings may or may not be valid. I am not trying to judge on battery savings or use. What I am trying to do is narrow the scope of the lock problem and determine steps to reproduce the lock. This makes it easier to avoid the problem as a user and fix the problem as a developer. I am sure that it involves the OTA update. What I am suggesting is that, without the ability to reproduce it probably involves more than just the OTA update alone.

Does that make sense?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
You've touched on the cruxt of the issue. It appears that not all Prime's behave the same way. Prime's that were fine before the update are broken and those that were broken now work. Since the h/w's all the same, it really is a curious issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] angler67:
I have this same behavior only after a minute of manually or auto-timeout screen off.

* No problems with .11

* Installed OTA update, lockup in sleep mode started

* Uninstalled Flash and Dolphin Browser JIC, problem remained

* It is a lock up not power down. Have to hold power button 10 sec

* I can wake with power button within a minute or so

* Wifi on or off

* If I force screen to never shutoff it stays working fine as it never goes to sleep

* If I manually power down, it will power up normally

-Robert
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
Rather than making us wait a month for another "fix," Asus should do the right thing and give those of us who had no problems on the old FW a way to revert back. This is bogus.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
Do you think there could be inconsistencies in the SoC? Teg3 was delayed and people were speculating that it was due to fabrication issues. It's an extremely complex design and it's odd that some devices experience issues when others don't. It could be other h/w that's inconsistent but there's nothing earth shatteringly different in the Prime other than the SoC. Just something to think about...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cappurnikus:
I can confirm lockups and reduced battery life after the update though I do not have any solid information to say what is causing it. Prior to the update I could go most of my day at work using the tablet very mildly and get home with 80% or so. Now I'm home for lunch and I'm sitting at 70% with 5 hours left in my work day. I've also experienced two lockups today and have to hold the power button for 10-15 seconds before it will boot up. I'm not incredibly worried about it, I feel like these issues will be ironed out more easily than wifi and gps issues. ; )
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] G37:
I agree, I think alot of these issues (aside from backlight bleed and GPS) have a direct correlation to Tegra3. I think the market has something to say about that too though -- how many other Tegra 3 tablets are there? When is the next non-Asus tegra 3 tab coming out? Not until May/June...

Honestly, I don't think Tegra3 does too well with CPU frequency stages. Then you have ICS on top, which is new as well. The combination could be disastrous. I'm not surprised there is issues, Asus is doing a good job staying afloat though.

Other OEMs are looking at how Asus is proceeding with this and are learning. But Asus has the advantage. They have the closest relationship with nvidia than anyone else does (I'm speculating) and thus is brings them closer to the Apple model, where control is maintained throughout all the levels of the tablet experience (App ecosystem, OEM, SoC)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] angler67:
Agreed, how to revert back to working binaries!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
This not completely true statement. Gary already explained exactly what the update did. Raising the lower clock doped doesn't mean a broken prime...lol. my prime still works just fine after update. Yes, some are experiencing issues after update but not all. So to assume all that were fine before update are now broken is incorrect.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] eduardmc:
i'm getting battery drain and constant reboot every 10-15 minutes. This has not happen to me before the OTA. This sucks really bad, i find out tha my tablet has rebooted cause i go and check my open apps and non of them are there. I testing right now in balance or power saving to see if it makes any differences. Get an update fix out quickly or someway to revert back to preview firmware.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Fair enough point so thanks.. I am a human and it is just pure frustration coming through my friend, just frustrated.

BTW, I do help.. look at my Ad hoc thread :) I work hard here to help, but also will not kowtow to pseudo help and feel the need that pushing back at times can get results versus just being complacent and saying, "thank you sir, may I have another".

But I get your point.

I still want my 23% back ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jaypm:
not to discount your issue, but i am on the latest update, have done similar tests (leave my tablet asleep for the night with wifi off) and have not had these issues. tablet is still sipping battery in this state, draining 1% or so every several hours. if i disable mobiledock battery saver mode then the dock also drains a percent or so every few hours.

so there must be something more to this, because it's not affected all units equally. for reference, i am rooted but have no ATP/vipercontrol/etc system tweaks applied.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Same here. I'm actually getting good battery life on performance mode. Battery at 70%. Stats show over 3 hours of constant usage. Web surfing, watching videos, and playing some games. Brightness is less than 25%. So do the math n ill get 10 battery usage easily or close to it on the same constant usage.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] G37:
I'm totally for you and I support you 100% buddy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ugotproblemz:
+1 the update sucks for me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PrimeTimeBro:
that's the problem the hardware isn't all the same I am guessing we have different variables here and they are trying to get firmware to play nice with both variables unfortunately those of us that had working primes with no ics lockups are now the ones suffering from the update to fix the ones with those issues.... this will be a neverending cycle

---------- Post added at 02:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:27 PM ----------

yes this is most likely what's going on I want 1.11 back now this is getting out of hand might be time to return for refund perma
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JanetPanic:
Then a logcat of a machine from shortly before sleep to the attempt to wake up would be long but perhaps might tell us something.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
As Gary asked, I PM'd him a slue of data, facts, use info, settings info that I could think would be of value.. For me, nothing changed but the OTA update and in 1 night, 23% drop. So, I suggest others do the same. It is vague at best what he wants, but I just gave him what seemed logical and pertinent to make my case and prove my point that I am now experiencing and never was until now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NoTrix:
+1 on the battery drop. I had zero issues before the last update....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] eduardmc:
notice that my asus prime keeps reboot less than 5 minutes everytime i leave in idle.

i seeing it right now

does a reboot, i do not touch anything and then around 3-5 minutes the tablet reboots itself, this is pretty annoying.

is it possible to run the update .13 on top of it again?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pmuch12345:
Sleep of Death Testing Results

Sleep of Death Testing Results

Here are the results of some basic testing I did regarding the Sleep of Death issue:

Test 1:

WiFi On, Power Saving Mode, Keep Wi-Fi on During Sleep=Always (in Settings)

Tablet put to sleep.

Woke up tablet 1 hour later.

Sleep of Death issue did NOT occur. Battery used = 1%

Test 2:

WiFi Off, Power Saving Mode, Keep Wi-Fi on During Sleep=Always (in Settings)

Tablet put to sleep.

Sleep of Death Occurs after 1 hour and 35 minutes. Battery used = 13%

I will try test 1 again for a longer period of time, i.e. 2 hours to see

if Sleep of Death occurs.

Thanks.

UPDATE 2/10/2012 @ 3:37 pm

My Sleep of Death Testing results have been sent to Gary Key.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
Make sure you send your info to Gary then.

It's good to let people know they're not the only one experiencing it, but if we want a resolution, they need to figure out how to reproduce it.

You can use this utility to capture your app info:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.stonedonkey.appdragon&hl=en
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PrimeTimeBro:
it's a lost cause at this point now it's 100% obvious we clearly have hardware variences of some kind amongst the Primes and Asus knows it yet they are unwilling to cleanup their mess properly they are taking shortcuts and in the end will be screwing us owners over with things like reduced battery life in order to fix the ICS lockup issues on some Primes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] youngnex:
my prime is doing the same thing. I haven't used the prime after 90+ charge on both dock and tablet. And i havent used it today. I opened up right now, and the dock is just about to die. i guess we'll be force to shut it down for now to save battery. It just seems to drain alot faster then when i was on honeycomb.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pmuch12345:
My Sleep of Death Testing results have been sent to Gary Key.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pmuch12345:
Battery Drain Testing Results

I did some basic Battery Drain Testing. Here are the results.

Wifi On, Screen Always on, Only background processes running (no other operations performed), Battery Saving Mode, Screen @ 15% brighness.

I let tablet sit with the screen on for 1 hour and then checked how much the battery had drained.

Battery Drain: 10%.

Does this sound like reasonable battery drain given the testing parameters?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mstrhnky:
with update .11, i had random freezing issues (and by random, i mean that i could have the tablet operating - on, but in deep sleep - all day with an hour or two of use at night with no problems, then it would crash and reboot. up to 138 hours run time was the max i've seen with recharging when necessary).

the sleep of death issue occurred twice before since i got my prime december 27th, and now, after update .13, it happens EVERY time i turn the unit off for a longer period of time (longer than just a screen time-out). and holding the power button for 7 seconds makes the unit vibrate and reboot. it never just turns on and ready to go if i hold the button longer than normal. it has to restart every time.

battery is much worse, as well. went from 38% down to zero last night.

every time i turn the unit off, i'm in power saving mode and wifi off.

since i got my unit back in december, i'm sure it's from the first batch.