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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
About 70% so far like the prime and keeping it. This number will only get higher.

This is all The Delphi effect. The opinion of the masses will have more merit than the opinion of one random chosen person. Sociologists have discovered that and that alone determines the mood of what's really going on. Whenever it comes time to poll voting, those displeased or riddled with issues can never muster up the numbers to truely reflect the what's really going on. Also the excuse of oh people returned tablet n moved on is b.s. they mostly all still here watching and posting here. Seen tons that "Supposedly" returned device for good or "Done" with forums yet they hang around to make sure to try to bash. Lol its all funny actually but very obvious.

The Delphi effect will always determines what's really going on within a mass or group. Poll votes show only on the surface, front page general news, may look bad, but overall its a completely different story and complete opposite of what's it seeming like.

If you don't know what the Delphi effect means, look it up. Then all this will start to make sense on what's really going on.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
clap your hands y'all, it's alright.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CrunchyDoodle:
I have four Android tablets and sold off the fifth. My Prime is the best of the lot. It is not perfect, but the best.

Bye. :cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slayer69:
Love it and Keeping it....even if I have been bitten by the last update....I have confidence that ASUS will resolve the issues, its a new device on new software....its prime (pun intended) for issues.....but the sheer power of this device is awesome...and am a proud to own this beast.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] drvsbsm:
I Like the style on mine personally that's about it. It works real good if I sit right beside my router and use it. Probably going to take it back, I love the design though I just wish my WiFi was better, then I would keep it for sure. I might just wait and get the Lenovo Tegra 3 or Samsung Tegra 3 when they come out. I hate to wait though, that's the only thing that will let me keep this is if I fell like I don't want to wait 4-5 months for the other Tegra 3s, but I heard Acer was coming out soon, like in a month or so. Just not a big fan of Acer Tegra 3. I Might get Samsung 8.9 just to hold me over. Its got a dual core 1.4, which will probably overclock close to 2.0GHZ dual core so I'm assuming its runs pretty good.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rand4ll:
You add to your theory here I finally voted in one of these polls. I love my prime and will certainly be keeping it.

Wifi works fine everywhere I have used it having no trouble getting and holding a signal. At home I get 100% throughput of my 6mbps line and the router is in the very corner of my bedroom and I lay on the couch on complete opposite corner. My house is about 1500sqft and single level so it's through a door down the hall and around the corner from me.

Screen is great, two tiny spots of lightbleed on bottom left that is only visible on boot screen, it is utterly invisible during use and if it wasn't I would be returning it as I'm a videophile and it would drive me insane. No dead or stuck pixels either as a single one is unacceptable for me on any of my personally owned devices.

Battery is fine and in fact I haven't charged it in over two days now, granted only used it very lightly due to available time but that is still fantastic. The current charge is still 60% in fact.

I only use bluetooth for transferring small files between the tablet and my phone so haven't been able to test slowing of wifi with bluetooth headphones, and not having any wireless headphones probably won't be anytime soon. I do know it's not detrimental to my wife when I am actively using my sixaxis controller with an app of the same name though as I can still browse net without issue and launch ROMs off a mounted folder from my NAS.

Never had a single reboot or sleep of death either (knock on wood).

Don't know what else I can cover really, but the fact this is the first poll I have voted in and I am happy as I am with it shows some proof of the motivation that those that are happy with it have to actively hunt and vote on these things. I just recently started being louder about my satisfaction due to the extremely repetitive nature of a handful of negative posters.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cappurnikus:
My battery is draining faster after the most recent OTA and I've experienced a couple of lockups over the past week but not enough to make me want to return. I feel like these minor issues will be ironed out by Asus in the next OTA. Hopefully something else won't break, lol.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slayer69:
As I look at my prime I just noticed a little issue that was fixed in the latest OTA. In the stock weather widget it was showing %% and is now showing %. That to me was a tiny issue...and guess what....they fixed it. So something like battery drain will get fixed. ASUS is known for fast responses to their customers. I am not worried about it...they will fix it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Spidey01:
Like, will keep.

Difference is: I might have keeped my TF101 until the 4th generation transformer depending on what it offers over a 3rd gen transformer. This Prime, I will likely have a shorter shelf life and will be drafting notes on upgrade plans for my devices.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
I miss the option "This has been asked a million times, nobody cares".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techie2012:
I dislike satisfaction polls
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blackinjun:
Actually I think at this point 185 people cared, seriously I noticed that all the polls were slanted one way or another and was curious about a straight out one which did not mention issues or greatness in the OP

OK, should I change the name for you?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
You do have to admit over 75% showing they like the prime n will keep it says alot. Not a small majority either...a landslide victory ;) there's alot of support n praise for Prime whether some people believe it or not. Too many polls showed this same result. AS long as Asus continues to try to fix n remedy situation, outlook looks very good for Prime. It has a large number of supporters.

Plus I think this poll has the largest number of people who voted in it. So looking at this is a very good gauge to show the overall feeling n mood of Prime owners in XDA.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chivas228:
this is my first tablet so I can't go by any past experiences of using one however having this one, I barely use my laptop anymore. I only use it to watch MKV files and some AVI's which can't be played on the Prime (is there a thread on this?).

besides my GPS issue, everything else has been ok. the browser sometimes locks up and every so often, i would need to bounce the tablet but that's expected when it's doing 15 different things all at once all the time. figure i'd give it a reset to clear things up wouldn't hurt.

one of my biggest concerns, though, is the market. I have noticed certain apps immediately shoots spam to my phone. I systematically checked each app for spam as i get a text the minute i fire up the app. i have just a handful of apps for now that I know is safe and keeping it that way.

i have tried my aunt's iPad but i've never been an apple fan; too much hype and too restrictive. at least I can find an APK and install it on my Prime with ease than jailbreaking and then do this and that just to get an "unapproved" app to be installed.... since when did I let the people who sold me the hardware dictate what I can put on my software? God damn commies, that's who! lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ride525:
Another thing to consider, this is by no means a scientific, representative survey of Prime owners. I think many came to these boards because of some problems or issues with their Prime, just as I did. So, I think the results would actually be higher positive, if you took a true random sample of Prime owners.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
These resultS are good enough. People cam read and vote based on simple choices. I'm sure if the results were flip flopped oh this would be a perfect representation of defective units. Can't get any simpler than this survey. Many did come for issues. Many came also to learn more about their device and make tweaks etc..

So the numbers don't lie. This is the most ever voted on a prime poll by xda users. The voters have spoken. So over 76% of prime xda owners that voted said they like and keeping the prime. There's nothing the Haterz can say or do to prove the majority of Prime owners, here in XDA, dont feel the way the numbers represent.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chamberc:
Considering the failure rate is less than 1%, not a surprising poll. You'll always find a higher ratio of people with problems in online forums.

Very few people buy it, and log in just to post "It's Great".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
really?

Please don't take this the wrong way. I freaking LOVE my Prime, and overall I am glad I chose it, and will not return the one I NOW have (unless they come up with a MIRACLE GPS FIX) I want GPS to work, a)Because it is in there. Why have a chip/circuit/antenna that are usless. Just bugs the crapout of me, even if I use CoPilot Live Premium on the tablet maybe twice a year when the whole family travels to NY together. Sorry, but as an engineer, I am pissed about Asus trying to quetly remove the spec. If they had made the statement BEFORE removing it, or even concurrently with the action, I would respect them more. You were around at that time; remember how the thread started and everyone noticed it, and started looking ti see wher it was and where it wasn't? It was only after that thread started picking up steam that the announcement was made. Could be coincidental. Personally, I do not think so.

And 75% is never going to be a "Landslide Victory" for me. Maybe in a presidential race, LOL! And yes, it is impressive, IF you are trying to show that more like it than don't. But for overall success? 75% sucks! If I read that only 3/4 of the people who bought a device liked it enough NOT to bother packing it up and returning it I would have some serious doubts about it. For comparison. The HTC Desire HD, in a survey I read way back when (sorry, almost 2 years ago, a link is not gonna come readily to hand so you will have to either believe me or not, your choice) the poll showed out of almost 300 respondents, that something like 210 people were "Extremely satisfied" another 50-60 were "mostly" satisfied and so on. The number who were "Unsatisfied - returned or plan to return" was like 21 or damn close to it. It's one of the reasons I grabbed a Inspire 4G - basically same hardware, with a dollop of AT&T Bloatware on top, LOL. I still have that phone, though it's getting near EOL.

That survey, when put in % terms showed 90.3% liking the device enough not to return it, and I wouldn't call THAT a "Landslide" either. I WOULD call it impressive, though, and thats why I considered the outcome significant enough to strongly influence My purchase decision.

EDIT: Sorry, just checked my math... assuming it was 21 out of 300 (and these are ballpark numbers so the "math" is really just for kicks... it's NOT scientific, just an impression that was made on me that I wanted to relay. Anyway, if it WERE 21 out of 300 that were returning the Desire HD, that would be 93% acceptance rate...ahh the things we debate... got to get back to the Prime Android Development Thread some more and stay the heck OUT of this General Madness forum, LOL!

Put another way, if Samsung came out with an Awesome 120" Super AMOLED 3D TV (dreams CAN come true, LOL!) and sold 1 MILLION of them, but ONLY 250,000 were returned, would that be a success? Also, there does seem to be a BIT of a discrepancy between that survey and Gary's "1% return rate" Just sayin... I love my Prime. Just not blindly. (and before you hot "Reply" I am NOT inferring that you DO. Again.. Just sayin)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdudb:
For complicated reasons I have had three pass through my hands and all of them worked perfectly apart from GPS and I knew about that problem before I parted with any cash. Suffice to say, I love my Prime and will definitely keep it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mothman0:
The TF Prime is the first tablet I've ever owned, and I am completely satisfied with it. Keeping it, loving it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Minhster:
Transformer Prime is my first android device ever, I'm loving it. It replaces my netbook.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Like, will keep BUT I want

1. 1400 cpu state back

2. 100-300 CPU states back

3. I want the GPS on/off button put back in the quick settings menu

4. Battery stats in Settings fixed to properly report all apps battery usage

5. some further software testing done on GPS as I think software can still improve it

All of these are easy as all of them but #4 we use to have. And #4 is a kernel tweak.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Well we are extremely close to your HTC desire numbers..we have 191 who like prime and keeping it so far. The point I'm making is people use to see the surface of the forums, with all complaint threads, dictating how people felt about the prime. When it comes time to show n prove, those people from complaint threads can never muster up the numbers to show the real deal. Plus I don't want to hear any b.s. about well people returned their tablets and didn't vote. We have most people who returned tablets still cruising these threads and spreading the do not get the prime sob story. They still voting also. Just like they say, don't judge a book by its cover. Although our cover seemed ugly, the real content showed a landslide majority of people actually like the device and is keeping it. You have alot of people going around spreading rumors that everyone is hating the prime and returning them. This is so false as these numbers show the positive list is growing and growing. Plus its like they say, people will always complain on a forum before someone just comes hear to post about how well it works. People are tired of seeing the haters say all primes are broke or whatever. Now the people with good working devices are speaking up in large numbers. They not holding back anymore. They want to let others know that despite some of the things you may see or read up here, there are more than enough great working devices out here in XDA. The numbers don't lie. Now I bet you if numbers were flipped, they would latch onto it like a puppy to a moma dog tit..lmfao ....that was funny ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gunzy83:
Great post and so very true. I keep talking to people who have heard about the Prime and it is always entirely negative and always about the Wifi and GPS. I tell them that evidently people are having issues with faulty units but mine doesn't have any of those problems and that the complaining you are seeing is probably a small but very vocal minority with trolls in the mix. They are probably very vocal because of the disappointment after the hype surrounding the release of this device, how long it took for them to get it (pre-order backlog) and the continuing supply shortage (sending/taking it back may mean waiting even longer) means that they are reluctant to return it and they are more likely to just hate on Asus on the forums instead.

Now, I have to admit I have had a good experience with mine. Took it to Japan with me the last couple of weeks, navigated through Tokyo with it, used it to play 1080 video and streams from my Plex server at home on the TV (via HDMI) in our house in Niseko many many times, used it to transfer files from SD card (GoPro footage) to other guys in our crew's portable hdds, Skyped the missus back home etc etc. I think I stunned even a few iPad owners with the versatility of this device. All I can say is my Prime rocks and totally fills the gap between my custom desktop PC and my HTC Desire. I guess I will hang onto it :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] niwaywood:
I had my heart 100% set of buying this until i found out about the wifi problem (dont really care about the gps).

Just want to get this straight, are the 80% of people that are happy with the prime having no wifi problems? is the wifi fine on most primes?

thanks in advance
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bluewr:
My brother and I have no wifi problem.

We each have our own Prime, and both work fine, except for GPS not finding alot of satelite.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smw6180:
In the month I've had it, I've not once had a WiFi problem on any access point I wanted to connect to. Never tried GPS because I use my phone for that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] frabjous:
I really like it, but I also feel a bit leery of recommending it to others because of all the issues that I've heard reported, even though mine is fine aside from gps. That said, I showed it to my brother and within 5 minutes he'd decided he absolutely had to have one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wolfc70:
New guy here, and until last week I would have said I loved it. But now, all of a sudden it is doing the reboot/freeze thing all the time. And wifi, which always had low signal strength but the same speeds as my other wireless devices, has slowed way down. The wonky (for lack of a better term) wifi coincided with the random reboot issue. Sometimes it will reboot once a day, or as much as four times an hour. Mine has a BC0K serial number.

So as of now I am undecided. I really like this tablet, but I have that sinking feeling that it maybe more trouble than it is worth. If I can't get it stable with the tips/tricks I found here, I will get in touch with Asus about a replacement.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] davekr:
I just got my Prime yesterday. I found a Staples store that had a few in stock so I had them reserve one and made the 45 minute drive to get it. When I got home I opened it up and went through the initial setup. I connected it to my WiFi router that is no more than 10 feet away from where I was (and the Prime showed about 3 "bars" of signal). Once everything was set up, I opened the browser. It prompted me to install Flash. I decided I would, so I said Yes and it brought me to the market. Sadly, the Flash download timed out. Not a good start.

At that point I saw that the ICS update was available, so I did that. I got that all set up and went to the browser. I again got the Flash prompt and this time the install worked. However, browsing on the Prime was painfully slow. I installed the SpeedTest app and ran a test. I got like 1.8Mbps down and about 1Mbps up. That, compared to my laptop, which gets up to 30Mbps down in the same location.

The access point that I was connected to is a 802.11n router. I also have a 802.11g router that I am going to try to see if it is any better, but right now the Wifi performance alone is enough to make me not be able to keep this tablet.

The only other little thing that I have wrong with mine is 1 stuck pixel. If the Wifi performance was okay I'd just exchange it for another one.

Does anyone think the Wifi issue could be just my unit? I guess having read about the Wifi issues with this device has me thinking all of them are going to be like that. Should I try exchanging it and hope for better results?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] frazipe:
I had serious wifi problems with the first one, which I returned to Best Buy. The second one has been much better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Nomad 666:
I can't seem to find the poll buttons :banghead:using Tapatalk. What am I missing?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I would think so or they would've voted otherwise. There are some with wifi issues but not most. If wifi was messing up on everyone device Asus would've had a firestorm of people complaining as wifi is a way more important and needed feature than GPS. If you get one now chances are great to get a good one. We have people traveling to japan and on college campuses saying their wifi works great for when they use it St those places n have no issues picking up signals or connecting.

I can understand being Leary with all the threads you might of read. But as you see here, this poll reflects a completely different story. If it was as bad as it seemed, poll would've reflected it easily. That wasn't the case though. Check out the thread in my signature called Positive Transformer thread. It will give you more of the flipside story. Another good one to read is the thread called List what works great on your prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] daerchwing:
I'm loving my Prime and I have zero problems (none that affect me, anyways - I don't intend to use the GPS). Couldn't be happier.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] niwaywood:
thanks for the reply, this really helped with my decision.

I'm going to buy one today and i guess if im having problems I can always just return it and get a galaxy tab instead :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Nomad 666:
Good decision. I bet you don't return it. You wont even notice that GPS doesn't work.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] R00l:
I voted Liked and keep. I am very happy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Chrono_Tata:
I don't think Tapatalk supports poll viewing. You have to open the thread in the a browser to do it. From tapatalk you can use menu > more > browser to quickly open the the thread in the browser, but you'll probably have to log in again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Sp3cia1_K:
I absolutely love my prime, i will not be returning it, I use it way too much to even think of returning it. I use it for my college presentations and enjoy every moment of using it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] niwaywood:
I just got my prime yesterday and i have used wifi analyzer and speedtest.net to compare the wifi to my galaxy s2.

I tested 3 times; close, medium and far distances from the router. My galaxy s2 beat my prime every single time!

Is it normal for a phone to have better wifi than a tablet? Or is it more likely that i have a dodgey prime?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] guthrien:
At the very least to anyone who is understandably cautious given the documented issues know these two things that are radically different from my experiences with other android hardware manufacturers: 1) Asus is on the ball with cutting edge updates and changes in the whole software, 2) Asus has awesome customer service.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Newfe:
I love my prime no problem at all
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
still a landslide victory for the Like, will keep crowd, over 300 xda prime owners here voted that way. now if this isn't a reflection of the overall general feeling towards prime then I don't know what is.

no other prime poll has had this many prime owners that voted.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] redbullcat:
I love my Prime. OK, yes, WiFi is a bit weak and there could be some improvements. But it still a fantastic tablet.