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[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ShahinTehShiz:
+1

This was just the kinda thing I was hoping for, seeing all the groundwork on it going to waste is just a shame :/ Hopefully an awesome Dev will pick it up ! :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] DeanBoro:
Do you people understand why this project never got very far?

It was because of the hardware capability of our phones. It was not enough for a fully functional DS Emulator which is why development had stopped.

And even if someone did want to continue the Development of this for some unknown reason, then it is impossible because the source code never got released.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] IE-coRe:
The hardware is stron enough, NDS is compareable to N64 but much lower resolution.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] bubblegumballoon:
Try TigerNDS it supports physical button mapping

http://apps.tigerplay.info/

Also I do belive that with enough optimisations NDS emultion could run full (or near full) speed on the xperia play. Obviously you need to get a talented developer with enough free time on thier hand to actuall bother doing this. :p

If a new emu never gets made then we could use this current one with future hardware when it gets powerfull enough but thats still a good couple of years away and also none of the current NDS emulators have audio emulation...
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] clewis:
Of course the hardware is good enough for the ds we are getting psp games soon which are better graphics than the ds.....
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] DeanBoro:
That is because the those games are direct ports and not emulated. Emulators require like x3+ hardware of the actual console which is why some PSX/N64 Games still lag because they are using "Emulation".

The games will be ports and not ran by an emulator so just remember that ;)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] speedyink:
NDS has like a 66mhz ARM processor in it. It should be possible hardware wise, but not so ideal in the physical side of things. Showing two 3" screens on one 4" screen will look awkward, especially since the screens are supposed to be one on top of the other.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] TLRtheory:
I was hoping someone would bring this fact to light.

Quality DS emulation is definitely possible. I'm waiting on one of these NDS emulators to offer the option to only emulate/display one of it's screens. A lot of the times, the second screen could be completely ignored, and that'd drastically improve performance.

All I'd really want an NDS emu for is Phantasy Star Zero... that alongside many other DS games can be played using only one screen.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
i'm sure that xperia play can support it . it's looooooooong time that i hope to see update for tiger NDS or NDS4droid :(

i'm really really eager to help someone ( donate ) want to start this project . i've sent sooooo many mails to tiger , but no answer .

lets try it together and find a way to start it guys.

do you follow me ?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] JoshyHino:
Could a dev maybe port a few of the popular games? anything is better than nothing :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
i do agree , please port some popular games , mario series :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] maskeraid:
yes! it is totally doable, especially on high end phones now, like my Galaxy Nexus. let's get to work guys!!
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] johnylim:
I already got PSP games Loco Roco Midnight Carnival in my Play, im sure this game is not a port, it run with Playstation Pocket just like Crash Bandicoot and PSXPERIA converted PSX games, only different by some software coding because it failed while i try to extract it with PSXPERIA.

PSP had better graphic than NDS, im pretty sure Xperia Play have more than enough power to run the game.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] IE-coRe:
You cant not just port a game with was released for completly different plattform. You need the source code to do this and no nds game (except some homebrew) is open source.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] johnylim:
Since NDS not a Sony's . We will never get nicely emulated game on our phone
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
a question

is sony owner of nintendo64 , super nintendo , genesis ... ????!!!!

NDS games is different and is not similar to psp , please post your comment about psp on another forum
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] johnylim:
Please read carefully my statement. I said 'NDS not owned by SONY's' ,and i said 'I already own PSP games Loco Rock MC running in my XPERIA Play' , im not posting about any PSP device.

If i write about Arcade games running on my X Play, do you want me to post it on other /arcade forum too ? :D
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
misunderstood !!:D

please talk about NS as much as you can ... to turn on this project
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] indritkertusha:
I don't know if this is enough but you can easily convert the dex file to jar and then decompile the jar file to view the source of the emulator.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] johnylim:
My point is if Xplay can run PSP games like this Loco Roco, than surely it have power to run NDS games, it only lacking this now maybe because it not owned by SONY and have no any -maybe source code or something else . :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] DeanBoro:
YOU REALLY ARE DUMB!

READ AROUND

Loco Roco is not the PSP version it is a direct port! therefore not needing much memory where as DS games are emulated.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] pankaka:
It takes 10 times more hardware power to emulate the original hardware, for instance the DS has a 33 MHz processor and a 66 MHz Processor. A phone with 700 MHz ~ could easily emulate the DS, the things the applications lacked were important codes that were not ported, imagine building a door without a handle.

You still would have a semi-functional door but not be able to open it.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Jotamide:
Oh man, I hope an NDS emulator comes to the XP at some point in the future. I cannot have enough Castlevania.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Cerebii:
Create a bounty?

I am registering my interest with this project.

Perhaps a good idea would be for us all who want a NDS emulator to chip in a few dollars and create a bounty for it?

Developers will be keener to do difficult work like this if there's profit to be made!
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] FeRoCiiOuS:
ill put $25 via paypal if this bounty occurs
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] AudioCreaper:
It would be sad for this to be wasted.

sent from my Xperia PLAY running DiXperia
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] afraaa:
aweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesome wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow just dropped my jaw

oh my goooooooooosh who made this ? if anyone know please let me know who is this guy ...

amaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing and just unique app than run ds greatly .. wooow new super mario bros is aweeeeeeeeeeesome noe

thank u thank u so muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch i love u nds4drodi developer

hope u see my comment just comming from my heart for u

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playing new super mario bros ... mmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm delicious
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] IE-coRe:
What are you talkibg about? This emu is unplayable slow.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] godlyitem:
i just to want say. this is huge for android society please continue this project.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Borh77:
How does NDS4Droid work with the most powerful smartphones such as HTC One S or HTC One X ?

Is it playable ?

Can we expect an acceptable speed with the Xperia Play 2 if it's based Tegra 3 or Snapdragon S4 ?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] TheVicious:
Nope. Because emulator is not optimalized in this version. Mayby in some time some good programers will take it and make it real!

Wysyłane z mojego R800i za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CTU_Loscombe:
It wont run on these phones. Having to render a dual screen will be extremely taxing on the phone hardware.

Take into account having to have the lower screen emulate the touch screen as well.

Hell, even the Saturn emulator is slow and that's a 32bit system

Long story short, IMPOSSIBLE
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] IE-coRe:
Then tell my why any low power netbook can emulate the nds? New phones are much more powerfull.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CTU_Loscombe:
Possibly due to more RAM.

Xperia Play only has 512mb compared to the average PC/Laptop/Netbook 1Gb (lower end).

Might not seem like a big difference but it can be the difference between something running choppy compared to smooth.

Also, the single 1Ghz processor of the Play lets it down too

Also there's the general OS architecture. I'm sure programming for the PC is a bit easier than programming for Android.

I'm not a big tech head so OS might have nothing to do with it...

I still stand by my RAM/Processor limitations though.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] AndroHero:
The Xplay has ample power for NDS emulation. The limitations are with the emulator not the hardware.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CTU_Loscombe:
I've been dealing with emulation since the Dreamcast. The Play will never run a DS emulator at full speed.

Dreamcast had trouble with SNES and that was only 2 generations behind it.

In all fairness however, just buy a DS. Emulating a home console I can understand but emulating a handheld? Just buy the damn handheld. Also, seeing as how DS games are still being made, the majority of people will be pirating them. Older consoles don't really have that issue. I'm certain that Coleco don't make money off Colecovision games anymore :D
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] AndroHero:
Utopia boot disk ...... Never thought i'd say that again :D lol
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CTU_Loscombe:
:p I've still got my Utopia disk...Spinning reindeer

I downloaded that to play Super Metroid since my cartridge never worked. Ran slow as all hell though
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] gyready93:
without hardware accelleration ,this emulator will not be smooth even in quad core smartphone like Galaxy s3,One X..

The emulator for Nintendo 64 is very smooth even in old device like Nexus One,and Nintendo 64 is more powerful than nintendo DS...
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] HankKing:
nevermind
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mobilevirus:
is this emulator already optimized for the galaxy s3?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] TheVicious:
Authors of this emulator leave it long time ago so it's optimalized as it is.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] SupButSa:
Hey, could someone test this with a highend rooted Android phone?

1. Install Ubuntu with Ubuntu-Installer (You can download it from the Google Store)

2. Use an USB-OTG Adapter or a Bluetooth Keyboard (Available on Amazon)

3. Download and install DeSmuME Emulator for Ubuntu (google for it).

4. Try to run a game.

Is it possible and does it run better than NDS4Droid and Tiger Emulator? I don't know, i haven't tested yet, I can do this just in some days, so it would be cool if someone could try it. And sorry I can't post links so far.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] acocalypso:
hi im testing nds4droid on my Xplay right now im playing 18 Card Games, with round 15-20 fps
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CTU_Loscombe:
Hey guys...Hey...Listen...Heres a novel idea

BUY A DS!
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] shocito:
It's a good idea to carry a Xperia PLAY in a pocket and a DS in another.

Cool, you're a genius! :D
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] IE-coRe:
Damn a functional DS emu would be so awesome, i had a ds for many years and it would be so nice to try the ds classics again like gta chinatown, nsmb, pokemon ss, kingdom hearts 368/2 days....

/dream

Gesendet von meinem R800i mit Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] speedyink:
Buy a 3ds, you can play all the old games, plus the newer, graphically enhanced games, and you get something you can't emulate on our phones, stereoscopic 3d.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] LordBattleBeard:
Its a nice proof of concept. I do think that it can be done but won't be for at least another year or two due to legal issues.

All the emus you see right now don't have games you can still buy in store. No good dev will reasonably touch it until the games no longer have commercial value.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] kitorz:
great try. but nds have 2 screens, i think it's better to show one screen only on xperia play and switch to another with a button.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Borh77:
I have tried it with the Galaxy S3, and Ace Attorney, it works, and at a normal speed.

Unfortunately, touch emulation doesn't work, you have to play with the virtual pad. And there is no sound.

It's a shame that the development has stopped because it could work with the new very powerful devices. And I paid for this app when it was available, hoping it would encourage the developer.

Wasted money...
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Falchion17:
I was so close to purchasing it as well when he had it on 'sale' for like $7 which is still crazy for a proof of concept app. I'm glad I didn't because it's been abandoned which is a shame because I'm sure it could've been optimized and the major bugs fixed by now. I really hope someone else steps up and accomplishes this goal soon.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] luis12285:
Thats 10x bro

sent from my XPlay
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] AndroHero:
10x the power is probably the minimum spec required for emulation. :p
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] IoorLTD:
So...10 times 66 MHz (original NDS ARM speed) is about....a lot less then our smartphones have in a single core.... there should be no problem then. Nowadays we have an overkill on MHz......;)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] igor_anta:
But the GPU is inferior. That's the biggest problem with N64 emulation as well, the GPU is way harder to emulate, and the Adreno 205 isn't really a monster :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] coreyon:
The problem is that people look at clock speeds of processors and then automatically assume that if you can multiple that x number of times you'll be able to emulate. The reality is that while it's possible, the emulators have to be very very well coded and efficient which is extremely difficult to achieve. The best most recent emulator there is is the Dolphin emulator for GameCube / Wii, and this is a huge project developed by huge amounts of people. Android apps are generally developed by one person, maybe a few and therefor will never have the efficiency of a well adopted emulator on the pc. Only very old generation consoles are easily able to be emulated with little effort because they don't need heavy efficiency since they take almost nothing to emulate.

To sum all this up, not only do our phones have the Android overheader to deal with but a single developer for an advanced emulator just isn't going to cut it.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ridder215215:
True, but you've got to take into account that the Play also has to run Android OS at the same time.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ninten5:
So I know this project isnt active right now but is there a bounty for it?

I've got a Galaxy S3 with 2gb ram in it, I know even the xbox 360 nor the ps3 have that much, so running NDS4droid with good code shouldn't be a problem.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] BrianChase:
You could certainly try it but having a ton of RAM doesn't equate to faster emulation speed for the most part (obviously having too little would be a problem). The code is not good in its current state and the NDS emulator was put together just to prove that it is possible to eventually make a stable NDS emulator on Android.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] swordsx48:
ill try this on my tegra 3 one x
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
a new DS emulator is available on the market

let's buy that and support developer to improve that :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Si1ver Shad0w:
Link please?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] shocito:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.qingping
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] zahinasaur:
I hope one day NDS4DROID will be smooth as FPSE :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] nickdog670:
Im surprised that Dsoid isnt getting more attention on here.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] zahinasaur:
DSOID, new DS Emulator for Android.

I've found from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1816552

Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...esult#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5xaW5ncGluZyJd
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
sorry for my delay

here you are :

DSOID : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.qingping&hl=fr

NDS : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tiger.nds&hl=fr

he friends , let's support them , just imagine the day that we can play " New super mario bros " on our xperia play

WWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW

i've bough them and will buy every update :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] fma965:
If you bought the second one then you just got scammed as its tigerNDS by another user
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] shocito:
I repeat...DON'T BUY "NDS". It's scam!
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Ansem:
hi guys,i have the asus tf201,with tegra 3,what's the best emulator for it? I read about dsoid,it's a good emulator?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] shocito:
Yeah, Dsoid has updates weekly :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] cj360:
Is dsiod playable on our xplay? I'd love to try out the next gen of pokemon, I just don't know if play can do it...
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ridder215215:
According to a post in another thread, it isn't.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] ParanormalBat:
Actually I'm running dsoid perfectly on my play. Yes there isn't any gamepad optimisation and multi touch support but sonic rush adventure runs fine on my play ( leaving out low fps).
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] silcharde:
If it was to ever be playable, how will it work on the xperia play or xperia play-like device? where you most likely hold it in landscape ...what about screens side to side? how are the screens natively handled by the DS, 2 indivual screens? a single image stretched over 2 screens? Thanks
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] fma965:
on PC emus you can move it so the screens are side by side
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Overstew:
I recently bought Dsoid in hopes it becomes playable soon. :D
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
and i hope so :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] acocalypso:
http://jeffq.com/blog/nds4droid/

nds4droid Version 8 came out yesterday, works fine and finally custom controlls and landscape mode

minor speed improvemnts.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] LordBattleBeard:
Nice find. I didn't know about this ;)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] cyraxx84:
Just tried Nanostray on V.8 and on the latest DSOID and its like in SlowMotion, unplayable!
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] james44422:
This is a great proof of concept and the developer should be proud.

I also tested Plants VS Zombies. For people wondering how it runs, the game was far too slow for everyday use but as time goes on and this app gets developed and devices become more powerful I can see this being a really good emulator.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
thank you soooo much

that is best news about emulators for me

let's share it on android general session to support the developer :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CloudShepherd:
Just updated with a fix for the Circle button problem in hardware mappings. Love the guy
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
ver 9 has been released !

fixed "o" button on xperia play :)

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ver 9 has been released !

fixed "o" button on xperia play :)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] SE_iCEQB:
v10 is released. This guy is working fullspeed on this thing as it seems :D

Changelog:

- Much better sound emulation, should be free of previous hiss or popping and sound smooth

- Added option to lock screens to their portrait orientation, while still rotating controls (for games that are meant to be played with the DS held sideways like a book)

- Added option to change the language of the emulated DS

- Native support for x86 devices. Emulation should now run much faster on x86 based systems

- Added a partial Italian translation

- Updated Portuguese translation

I'm often seeing x86 devices mentioned in changelogs recently ... what devices are there by now that are based on the x86 arch. ?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] LordBattleBeard:
This is definitely the emulator to be throwing your support behind.

Don't let the fact that its free stop you from donating to support the dev. It easily trounces the paid Dsoid app on the market.

Few key points:

- Getting 6-7fps in 3d race parts of mario kart. This is definitely the best performance yet.

- Working sound, though disabling it makes the game run faster.

- In-game touchscreen works.

- Supports key mapping

- Landscape mode puts the two screens side by side, excellent for the xperia play.

- Lots of configuration settings like filtering and vsync.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] FTAiii:
Agreed, this is the best. Just sent a donation.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Ascertion:
nds4droid release 11

Posted on September 10, 2012

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Release 11 is ready to go for nds4droid! Sourceforge has the APK as well as Google Play. Changes in this version:

Support for cheats. Use the cheats menu option to add and edit Action Replay cheats

Performance enhancements for ARM based devices

Adds a French translation
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] shocito:
The official link in Google Play

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opendoorstudios.ds4droid
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] kurosaki99:
i hope i could play pokemon platinum on this emulator , hopes it work .
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] toppdogg93:
Someone should post what games are working
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] IE-coRe:
Allmost all games work. They are just incredible slow...
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
AND DSOID 1.9.1 HAS BEEN RELEASED!

sound bug fixed
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] LordBattleBeard:
Dsoid sucks imho. nds4droid is much faster with many more configuration options.

People on the fence should donate to support the development of nds4droid instead of buying dsoid.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Toxygen55:
Imo tiger nds is the best because on my optimus 3D on xplay 3D rom overclocked to 1.4ghz i can play at a solid 15fps for an hour befor the phone burns up but on nds4droid i only get 8fps and the game quality looks bad very blurry and pixelated , but it might be because i only had v1.3? Just saying

Devices:xperia acro s(maybe itl come soon)

Optimus 3D(1.3ghz froyo rom)

Xperia x8(748mhz ics cm9)

Galaxy s2(stock)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
WHAT ?!

tiger NDS is a dead project

hey guys, v 13 is out :)

WWWWOOOOOOOOWww

let's support the developer
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Wahrheit:
which game should be the fastest? or the one with better emulation.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] mehdi.moha:
mario and luigi : partner in time - till now
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] kurosaki99:
waaaa , i still can't play pokemon platinum . :'(
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Toxygen55:
V13 plays good , never thought it was possible, 56fps in pokemon blue rescue team on my optimus 3D , nothing else comes close , all we need now is hardware acceleration and some optimizations (i got 56fps with sound on and frameskip set to 1):eek: the dev is amazing i wish i could donate but im stil a kid and my parents wudnt do it for me...

Devices:xiaomi m-2(worlds fastest phone)

Optimus 3D(1.3ghz froyo rom)

Xperia x8(748mhz ics cm9)

Galaxy s2(stock)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Toxygen55:
The frame rate dropped to 23fps when i took the screen shot

Devices:xperia acro s(maybe itl come soon)

Optimus 3D(1.3ghz froyo rom)

Xperia x8(748mhz ics cm9)

Galaxy s2(stock)
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] kurosaki99:
wow , how you do that ? i want to play pokemon platinum but always stuck after start screen . T.T
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Motawa88:
few questions:

is the play capable of emulating it playable with sound? is the hardware enough? or is the hardware good enough but the code for the emulator has to be more optimized?

another one:

would it be possible to use the gamepad as controlls and make the dualscreen side by side?