yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S General] Erythnul:
Also, you can probably just forget about the 4.0.1 builds, they are indeed old pre-release build either based on either the maguro build or SDK-ports. the post-release kernels won't work there :/

I realise I'm a bit late with this but well, first time checking the thread, amazing work, keep it up! :)
[Nexus S General] :
Too late, I didn't realise what I'd done until I done it. I might as well leave them in for reference!
[Nexus S General] Oodie:
great work you are doing here & i have a small suggestion :rolleyes:

Can you add to the columns " more is better " " less is better " or something , so that we can understand the results better instantly :D
[Nexus S General] :
Oh yes, good point. :)

EDIT: Done. I've labelled the ones where lower is better.
[Nexus S General] AndroidUser00110001:
I meant that benchmarks aren't that good because developers, including myself can tweak certain things to give better benchmark scores which in real use give no better performance.

The way you are bench marking is very good! Very fair across all ROMs.

I am still trying to figure out what some of the results mean :D
[Nexus S General] :
Cool, if there's anything else I've done that could use improvement then let me know :)
[Nexus S General] bendirkss:
The reason i wont look at these is the fact that Milestone 3 is close to the bottom... AOKP is getting so much positive feedback and i dont understand how its below all those other ROMS, i hear more about AOKP than any other ROM. And I wanna know where ORCA is..
[Nexus S General] :
Be helpful and post links please.

Link?

You are correct, I had taken the number of developer thanks from XCellPhoneSales rep, who started the thread, without realising it was not his work. I have changed the info to reflect Romanbb's stats. This project is now closer to the top in terms of popularity. Again, "Popular" does not mean "best".
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Super ICS Kang-O-Roma removed. It was another 4.0.1 build, and will not work with morfic's kernel. There are two 4.0.1 ROMs on the list still, if anyone wants to compare.
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
Hi bedalus,

If there are some ROMS that come with an overclocked kernel, can you please distinguish it by an other color? the benchmark won't be fair enough othewise :)
[Nexus S General] :
Hi tchaari! None of the ROMs are OC'd by default. You can check the rated speed in column W.

However, when I run the subsequent test with morfic's T132-I, this is clocked at 1.32GHz and set to performance. I do the same thing with every ROM I test here.
[Nexus S General] jimkaps:
Nice but why don't you post the benchmark results for each rom??
[Nexus S General] kong:
Actually if it's disabled the scrolling will be noticeably faster. Unfortunately, I think besides CM ROM there is no option in settings to disable it.
[Nexus S General] :
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=23466582

No

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[Nexus S General] :
I've just gone directly from gb to BB then to mandaman2k_v7 (with improved scrolling listed as a feature) and even with performance governor at 1100mhz scrolling has stutters in ICS.

I'll try cyanogenmod next. I'm supposed to be relaxing! :cool:

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[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Bedalus do you set transitions to 0.5x?
[Nexus S General] :
No. Just done it now, but i think that it's too fast!

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[Nexus S General] :
Simms22 just linked me to morfic's Munchausen (or something like that) which has more ram

Even at performance 1320 scrolling is still stuttery

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[Nexus S General] simms22:
try ondemand
[Nexus S General] :
Yep, still no good

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[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Even GN is not smooth...omg.
[Nexus S General] simms22:
i think this is relaxing for you
[Nexus S General] Oodie:
hey bedalus , aren't there any new benchmarks ? Kong's updated to the 4.0.4 also .

& also cybergrmod 9 .
[Nexus S General] :
Not exactly, but it certainly passes the time!

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[Nexus S General] :
I'm still on holiday!

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[Nexus S General] :
Can someone tell me where in cm I'm supposed to find this option to disable all scrolling cache? I've got a nightly from the 5th march

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[Nexus S General] Oodie:
Oh ! I didn't know that . Sorry .

Enjoy your holiday :D
[Nexus S General] cowst:
NEXUS MV 2.03.09 out

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1364411
[Nexus S General] Harbb:
Use renice (say -10) on the app that you want smooth scrolling and feel true buttery smoothness. This is best done via adb shell while the app is running.
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Nexus MV 2.03.09

UPDATE: Stuffed Crust! MIUI 4 2.3.9 (another one based on android 4.0.4) moves into 2nd place! Congratulations kong, and thanks again to evilisto.
[Nexus S General] bluelyd:
thank you for your effort always ;)
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v.9 HYBRID moves into 4th place!

(Good to see a 4.0.3 ROM performing up with the 4.0.4s)
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: GummyNex 0.8.1

I think I'm up to date now, but let me know if I've missed any ROMs with significant updates
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
cant say it is the same with me.i notice a big improvement in app installation times and opening times. they never slow down when opening, while in ics if you dont use them for a while they take much longer to open again. probably something to do with the ram management in ics.

I agree when you say that the transitions are more polished and the user interface is much better than gb.

I'm just hoping that the new versions of ics will be a game changer=p
[Nexus S General] :
I think one of the main differences I noticed when I was testing gingerbread on my holiday was the smoother scrolling. Then I got a tip in this thread about disabling scrolling cache (which I think began as a feature in cyanogenmod 7). Today, Cybergr informed me that his ROM has the option to force disable scrolling. I tested this out just now, and the result is a BIG improvement!

Ask your ROM developers if they can include this option.

Thanks to Cybergr for letting me know.
[Nexus S General] echo_rc:
Which one is the best for nexus s 4g?
[Nexus S General] :
I think you can probably use this table as a guide, if the developer provides ROMs for both platforms. I doubt performance differs much. Obviously I can't test ROMs that are exclusive to the 4G model, as I don't have one!
[Nexus S General] echo_rc:
Ok thanks man!
[Nexus S General] alen1901:
I have a suggestion. When ever you test some rom, beside this benchmarks, it would be nice to have your opinion about smoothness, battery etc. :)

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
+1 :D
[Nexus S General] texasaggie1:
ICS has better battery life IMO

My experience is that most of the ICS roms has signifigantly better battery life than the GB roms. I love the battery life on ICS. First time I have been able to say that on Android and I have been on Android since the G1.
[Nexus S General] alen1901:
is this correct. i tried to read battery resolts from your benchmark, and if im not wrong, matrix 16.5 and Air Kernel 2.7, also test Air Kernel 3.0 are using less battery, or in other words, battery lasts longer on that kernels. can you approve that or im wrong?
[Nexus S General] :
Yeah, it's a good idea in an ideal world! But i don't have that sort of time on my hands. The battery drain should really be independent of the ROM unless the dev made a mistake. If you take two ROMs, set the colours the same, use the same apps for the same amount of time, and use the same kernel, then the only difference would be if there ate some extra services using a little background CPU and system resources, not enough to notice.

For smoothness, read a few posts back about my experience with gingerbread. The app i use the most is XDA, and the scrolling lagged horribly when the new version came out. The only solution to this I've seen implemented in any ROM is cybergr's, where there is a performance option to DISABLE scrolling cache. Apart from this I've not noticed much difference is the performance of the ROMs in general. (there have been one or two that had a very bad user experience, but I'm not naming names, partly because i don't remember, partly because those bugs have probably been fixed by now).

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[Nexus S General] krarvind:
Disable scrolling cache is in Slim via ASS :p. I didn't notice any lag in XDA app without disabling though and i use it a lot, the xda app.
[Nexus S General] :
I did not even know that! I will check it out now! Thanks for the tip! :D

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[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
bedalus, i think you missed this rom:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1483639
[Nexus S General] :
Yes, that's relatively new i think. I'll add it asap

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[Nexus S General] rrohanjs:
Aokp milestone 4 is out since a while
[Nexus S General] :
Cool, thanks for letting me know, I'll try to get to it asap
[Nexus S General] Pugaciov:
I was going to suggest testing Milestone 4 too ;)
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Dario's ICS v4.5 benched!

Results on the sheet! See the OP for the link.
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
bedalus, why dont you test gpu performance?gpu benchmarks, to see which roms has the best gaming experience?i think that would be great!
[Nexus S General] :
I did provide a gfx score at first, but later found that it wasn't correlated to the final score, i.e. it was just adding 'noise' to the results. If you choose a high performing ROM, and a high performing kernel you should be set.

I've attached the excel document with the correlation graphs so people can examine it personally if they like.
[Nexus S General] migz012788:
Any benchmarks gb roms??
[Nexus S General] Ibn Saeed:
Read the title of the thread for the answer
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
There are actually 2 GB ROMs that bedalus benchmarked.

They are Carbon (modified Oxygen) & CyberGR's.

You could see it at the bottom of the spreadsheet.
[Nexus S General] migz012788:
Haha lol. I know this is for ics. Thats why i am asking if there is any benchmarks for gb roms.
[Nexus S General] :
If anyone is interested in running a gb ROM I'll happily recommend cybergr's.

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[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
thanks!

from what i can understand, there is very little difference between 3d performance in these roms right? I find that quite strange, MIUI performing just as well as other ics roms...in gb all the miui roms i tried where a lot worse when it comes to 3d performance
[Nexus S General] :
I'll try to remember to do a comparison next time i test an miui ROM

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[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
Bedalus!!!!!! CODENAME ANDROID V1.5.5 is out!!!! :D :D :D
[Nexus S General] :
Haha excited? :D

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[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
A little bit overexcited :D
[Nexus S General] :
OK all set up but going to bed now so will do this in the morning.

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[Nexus S General] SirPrick:
CodenameAndroid 1.5.5 is out! Could you please bench it?
[Nexus S General] dinos3:
he will do this in the morning.
[Nexus S General] rrohanjs:
plz dnt forget aokp milestone 4 :)
[Nexus S General] raulillo88:
This thread is great. Now we don't need flash roms over and over to know which is better.

I used CM 3.4 and due to problem I change my rom. First tried gummy nexus but there are very slow and now I'm on pixelrom and it's really true that is the quickest.

I'm usin steve garon kernel, too
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: cna 1.5.5

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[Nexus S General] :
I was going to, but it's not much different from the previous release. In fact the one I benchmarked was going to be milestone 4 but at the last minute they decided to hold off for one more release. Probably over some very minor issue.

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[Nexus S General] omartins:
It's me or the results with CNA 1.5.5 are worst than the obtained with 1.4.0?

RM
[Nexus S General] :
Correct. Either something has gone wrong in the test, or something has gone wrong in the ROM. Although I did the test twice, so it's unlikely it's something at my end. There may be some explanation, like some extra CNA services that are eating processor cycles. I don't know!
[Nexus S General] Articudos:
Hmm...I used two different version of Milestone4 .. and I thought bugs are fixed and newest version wasn't laggy comparing to initial version..

----------

P.S. Plz don't forget CM9 Nightlies:)
[Nexus S General] :
Yes, i benched v2... But...

I can't benchmark every release going!! I have less time because of catching up with work. I'm also applying for a lot of jobs in a different city. I have a one year old daughter, a sick cat, and my wife hates my phone already! I'm sticking to major releases. And if i benched something recently I won't do it again until I'm sure some major changes have happened. In fact i should probably just have a break until the next source code drops.

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[Nexus S General] iPrism:
I got lower benchmarks as well. Still fast though.
[Nexus S General] :
It's a lovely ROM. Benchmarks aren't everything

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[Nexus S General] ballroom dru:
I have to agree. I am looking for lag free, bug free, long battery life ROM's and Kernels. So far, I have really liked Pixel 1.6 light touch with Air Kernel.
[Nexus S General] bluelyd:
thank you always.:)

and I understood your opinion about milestone4. thank you;)
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
Maybe this whole benchmarking should stop for awhile until the next build of ICS is released.

Engadget has confirmed this via their "trusted" sources.

Let's all give Benchmark Bedalus a break.

The worst case scenario is, bedalus' wife goes rampage and sledgehammers his Nexus S.

Therefore, say goodbye to Benchmark Bedalus.

Just a joke, man.

Don't take it seriously :D
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Dude even I can give that estimate. In the next "few weeks" is sooooooooooo easy to guess LOL.
[Nexus S General] :
I'm going to do kustom kream today and have a third look at cna. Think i might have used ondemand 1320/1320 instead of performance 1320/1320

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[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Kustom Kream v7 benched!
[Nexus S General] :
Triple checked CNA 1.5.5 but still getting low results.
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
I also noticed a slowdown with v1.5.5
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
I need to flash a new rom... ima crackflasher!! Im thinking of kustom kream
[Nexus S General] iPrism:
As far as CNA 1.5.5 goes there were a lot of additions over 1.4 so that could definitely be the reason for the lower score. Still extremely snappy and lag free though.
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
Kangy v1.0 is a new rom :D
[Nexus S General] JakeOcn:
There is a new slim ICS versión (2. 9 if I'm not wrong)
[Nexus S General] :
I'm waiting for 4.0.4 sources now unless there are any new ROMs released

UPDATE: Noticed an error in the formula for the 'peak' performance score. Corrected now. Caused a slight shuffle of ranking with about three or four ROMs. But none of the overall percentages really changed much.
[Nexus S General] DROCSID:
Thanks ;)

Sent from my iPad
[Nexus S General] Shivammcool:
IPad?
[Nexus S General] dinos3:
Why not ? :D
[Nexus S General] DROCSID:
Would like to know too, you can do it by PM. Yeah

I find the iPad a good device. So back ontopic pls.
[Nexus S General] al_madd:
will be long wait for 4.0.4 source .....:D:D
[Nexus S General] :
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=23750729

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[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
It will be released today?
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
That info should be taken with some reserves. A french GSM operator (SFR) said that the Galaxy nexus and the Nexus S updates have been postponed to an unknown date after contacting google. So, we still have to wait a good amount of time I think :(

Source: http://android.sfr.fr/ (in French)
[Nexus S General] :
I was kidding, there was a reference to the end of time. Hopefully Google releases before then :eek:

Check out tchaari with his secret international sources. He's like some smooth undercover operative :cool:
[Nexus S General] raulillo88:
What about new stuffed crust 2.3.16? Will take the first position? thanks for your work
[Nexus S General] ugo999:
Thanks, but I've tried these

#1st place: Pixel Rom 1.6 ICS (Android 4.0.4) moves up to number #1!

#4th place: CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v.9 HYBRID

#5th place: ICS 4.0.4 IMM26 v1.1 (android 4.0.4) thanks evilisto

And they are all crap about stability,

Peter Alfonso Nightlies are the best rom. Stable and smooth with no equals, you can use it everyday
[Nexus S General] DROCSID:
@Bedalus

-> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1554621

;):D
[Nexus S General] :
Nice, good to see this work being done properly.

Just my view, stock settings are not necessary. Overclocked reduces bottlenecks, allowing performance issues with the ROM to stand out.

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[Nexus S General] ballroom dru:
Try number one again. Only this ti, use Lite touch. Search. The Pixel ROM thread for the settings the ROM developer is using and use them. I will have had a very stable experience with this combo for the last week.
[Nexus S General] Cybergr:
This is really not very kind of you and i found it a little bit "DISRESPECTFUL"..!!

Ok it`s your opinion and you can always share it with other users in here but please don`t express them in that way..!!

Please "RESPECT" every Dev`s work and if you have a problem don`t hesitate to ask them or take a look into every ROM`s thread (Look for a F.A.Q) or anything that may be helpful for you but please don`t say "CRAP"

specially if you didn`t even tried to do something of the above

!!
[Nexus S General] DROCSID:
Good way of thinking! So many ROMs and ports do already have so

many things changed in all the important things to benchmark, this

is the best way.
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Peter Alfonso's Bugless Beast (16th March nightly)

UPDATE: Brainmaster's MIUI ICS 2.3.16
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
I completely understand this from Cybergr. When someone tries hard to make you a special gift and you say to him "this is crap", Just try ro imagine what he can feel.

Respect to the developers please and don't forget that all what you find in this forum are kind gifts from them ;)
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
Im fully with you. come on guys. the man does it for free!! He works his ass off for us. He could also make the rom and not release it, but make it only for his own use.

be grateful for what we are getting!!

Amen to the AWESOME DEVS :D :D

they make our phone 5 times worth it!!
[Nexus S General] Oodie:
Stability :eek: lol .. all the roms you mentioned are rock solid to me .

( if you know how to use a phone by the way )

Tried all 3 and no stability issues
[Nexus S General] wildestpixel:
My work is very humble (no source) by comparison to the stuff that can be gleaned from AOSP trees - only filling users needs where I can.

However - whilst turds will throw **** like this at what we've shared with the Nexus S community - I just ask myself -

"What does ugo999 bring to the Nexus S community - what is he sharing that benefits others in here????"

I'm trying to spread a little love to the 4G community at the moment. That IS what this is about for sure. Too many jumped up ****s who contribute nothing and profess to know everything.

As I say - my work is humble; just about delivering the right recipe for the job. That is what I try to contribute.

If my ROM isn't stable - as Oodie says - this ugo999 possibly doesn't know how to use the phone.
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: linked to flodb113's excellent survival guide in the OP

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[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Androxide 1.2.1 benched!
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Removed AnTuTu's SDCard read result from result. This was uncorrelated 'noise' so now the table is more accurate. One or two ROMs moved up or down but not more than 2 places (apart from Stock, which moved up several places, now close to the middle). Same thing for Vellamo's surfwax binder (not exactly 'uncorrelated' as such, just wildly variable).
[Nexus S General] DROCSID:
So, better to remove these 2 things?
[Nexus S General] :
Yes, and change the formulas
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
Is this thread dead ? :o :o
[Nexus S General] :
No, i just can't find the enthusiasm for minor updates when a major update is looming...

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[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
yesss I understand :D :D.. Did you hear?? Oxygen 3.0 is really really close :D
[Nexus S General] Articudos:
Wow! Where did you got the news?:D
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
Here :D

http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=2093&p=4

Its post #99

I attached the post
[Nexus S General] Articudos:
Great:-)
[Nexus S General] ljordan2:
@bedalus

How about benchmarking Nexus Xperia rom?( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1450485) It is a ics rom and i would like to see how it performs against AOSP roms.
[Nexus S General] :
There'll be huge interest in that one, obviously! So I'll do that one as soon as it is available. Let me know! :)
[Nexus S General] wildestpixel:
Hopefully my journey will be over and it signals my end of tweaks when it comes. I know Adam has had to wait for his burn to come age a bit before he dev'd it but I'm sure it will be fierce.

One thing I don't kill is my android.policy.jar and I know from oxygen 2.32 they kept it better than google so yes please knock me off the top spot with a 4.0.3 ROM.
[Nexus S General] :
Ah... I didn't know that existed. Yes, I will do it asap.
[Nexus S General] :
Good attitude to competition. Much appreciated.
[Nexus S General] ballroom dru:
I am excited. Can't wait to try it.
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
Respect to wildestpixel. With such mentality, this forum will remain my favorite from all other android web sites.
[Nexus S General] :
Saw your post in the kernel thread. It's still an accessible thread (link in my signature and OP here), but I just don't have to monitor it any more.

I've only got this ROM thread going now, and this is where most people seem interested.

I don't think I'm getting called into work today, so I'm going to bench the xperia ROM.
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
I know you can't go your day without benchmarking :D

Anyway thanks for keeping up your work for the community, bedalus.
[Nexus S General] tjackbjorn:
bench gummy 0.9!!:)

Sent from my sandwich using a Nexus S