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[Epic 4G Android Development] droid newb:
Well that's when I started questioning what I posted about it being a huge file! :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
I have that page where the flash-ables are bookmarked,
[Epic 4G Android Development] h8it:
Cash pool

I know Toad is busy in life and understand totally! I hope for him and his family everything is OK and wish him the best!

On a side note I have been running this ROM since BML days. Now on MTD and still just love the ROM! I use my phone daily for work and can not afford to play around with all the ROMS like some of you. But for me all the features have worked great and battery life is pretty good.

So I say we start a pool and maybe we can get it big enough if Toad stops back by it would be worth his while to update to FC09!

I would easily put $10 myself. I know doesn't sound like a lot and I know it is hard and time consuming work. I work with computers every day! Just not programming! I would also consider paying more!

Anyone else want to make a donation promise? Maybe we can get the pot high enough for him to update it for us!

Thanks again Toad! Not saying any of the other ROMS are bad I just need stability for my use!

Also thanks to all the other members who keep us noobs straight so we don't have a bunch of bricked Epic's out there!
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
I have another $5 if he puts in a new version.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BubZX:
Id be in for $5 also. Been running this rom on bml since biuld 16 and absolutly love it. Its so stable and fast I always came back.

I appreciate all the work toad and all the devs here put out for us.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Devtodi:
I am in also.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
Not to disparage the loyal cleangb users...but, if toad doesn't come back...I suggest the peoples rom....v 3 is soon to come...rumor has it that it slices bread:D

Sent via a non-cancer forming method of electromagnetic radiation.
[Epic 4G Android Development] labumm:
I'd put in another $10. Heck. It is my phone. CleanGB makes it usable. More than I can say for Sprint--to whom I pay far more $$!

OK, that is unfare. Sprint provides network. That is not cheap. But you know what I mean.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jigabop:
no, its not reflected in the setting/about phone. easy way to check if it worked is to reboot your phone. if you don't see the update notification right away, it worked. if you see it and it doesn't go away within a few minutes by itself, it didn't work.

I ran that command and haven't had an update notification since.

The command line fix I posted originally came from ToadLife before he had an EL30 release so we wouldn't get notifications for the EL30 update...I just modified those same commands to work for the FC09 update.

If you typed it exactly as shown, you won't have a problem with that notification anymore as it makes the updater think that the phone already has FC09 on it even though its not reflected in the about phone section.

The modem part is purely optional. it has no effect on update notifications. I just like to run the latest modem just in case they made any improvements to it for signal and service improvements. The modem update will however be reflected in the about phone area where it says Baseband version.

BTW: my sig is current. I'm still running CGB 1.0.3 and my phone thinks its on FC09 :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
If Toad had to leave to take care of family issues I really don't think trying to buy him away from family is proper. If he has the time to come back I am sure he will update this ROM. I am also sure he would love to see those donations popping up in his paypal knowing how much we all miss him.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Fine, he gets my $5 regardless.

(Or his family could meet with an unfortunate "accident"...)
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Now THAT is a die-hard CleanGB fan!

I know nuth- thing! Nuth-thing!
[Epic 4G Android Development] uscpsycho:
Does anyone have a problem with their battery charge level being way off? Sometimes my phone slows to a crawl or even hangs with a 40% charge. Then I restart the phone and the battery level will be under 10%. That's way way off and I get caught off guard with a totally dead battery.

I've gone through the whole dance of resetting my battery stats through recovery but it doesn't help at all. Never had this problem before CleanGB.

Also, I love scrolling widgets but good lord, they slow my phone to a crawl. Is that normal?
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Yeah, I had this similar problem on almost every ROM I've used.

Just some questions here... what type of battery are you using? What is its size? How long have you been using it? What are your charging patterns?

I recently read the most asinine article on lithium ion batteries on LifeHacker a few days ago. It claimed that you don't have to discharge and full recharge your lithium ion batteries for maximum performance since those recommendations come from the days of Nickel Cadmium batteries and they no longer apply.

Remember *one* thing here... ALL BATTERIES have a hysteresis curve! All batteries have memory. All batteries have an ideal charging/discharging pattern. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a jackass...or maybe not a scientist.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Known phone bug been around forever on every ROM and mentioned hundreds of times. Don't reboot your phone under 70% unless plugged into a charger. If you do and that happens pull out the battery for 5 minutes and reboot. It will go back up.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Great news! I got in touch with Toad and it looks like he will be back in June!!!! He is also looking forward to upgrading CleanGB!

There was much rejoicing!
[Epic 4G Android Development] BubZX:
That's good news!
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
All our best to Toad and we look forward to his speedy return, healthy and happy family in tow...

Anyone who proffered a donation should go ahead and send it. Toad has been a great part of our community and has created some top-notch roms and mods...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Devtodi:
Thanks Kenny, your efforts are greatly appreciated. My wife's phone thanks you. :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] labumm:
...donation done.

I don't think anyone was trying buying Toad away from whatever he is doing. Each of us has our own priorities.

The intent was in the spirit of "We appreciate your work" so lets go beyond words and back that up with $. The time savings for me is real.

For example, on stock ROM, I was rebooting my phone several times a day. Sometimes it would beat me to it.

OK, probably other ROMs are very stable too. But I like the philosophy of CleanGB. To me, my phone is a tool.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
I know no one was really intending to buy Toad from his family but it was sounding that way. It's all good though. I love seeing people so dedicated to a ROM. I am lucky enough to have a few myself in The People's ROM thread. It is a great feeling that people really enjoy your work as Toad will see when he returns. He has a month of posts to catch up on so far...lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
Hope he remembers how to build roms...

Sent via a non-cancer forming method of electromagnetic radiation.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
LOL I'm sure he will. Clean GB and Peoples Rom are the two BEST roms out there. I have both MTD versions on my sd card just in case.
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
CleanGB was my "Rock of Gibraltar" on Gingerbread. Brilliant piece of work. And I wasn't slamming anyone; I, too, thought it was fantastic that the legion of CleanFans stepped up to show love for their dev. I would have chipped in myself but I have child #2 graduating from HS this week, and celebrations (as well as yet another tuition) loom...

This is what makes the OG Epic community the best out there. Right, Uber???

;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
Sigh..with the economy the way it is...#2 might be in the wallet for 10 more years...

Sent via a non-cancer forming method of electromagnetic radiation.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
My #1 is so far.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
You know... I am not beyond making sacrifices to the Lagomorph overlords and having my rabbit do the magickal nanner dance to help Toad out.

Just saying...

--SN
[Epic 4G Android Development] DaggettBeaver:
Woohoo! Time to eat the Minstrels!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
I am glad someone got my Monty Python reference! LOL
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
Before Sir Robin and Sir Gallahad get all caught up in themselves; we still have several weeks until we (might) hear from Toad... so all you Knights of the Roundtable should journey over to TPR until King Arthur returns...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
Actually, I am the knight who goes "nee".

Sent via a non-cancer forming method of electromagnetic radiation.
[Epic 4G Android Development] gerrym:
Looking forward to the return. Donation done. :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Hey Grrym.... how is that FC09 modem working with v1.1.2 MTD? Can you give us some long-term updates as to overall signal strength, download throughoutputs, and etc?
[Epic 4G Android Development] gerrym:
I am running the EL30 modem. ?? The 'FC09 edits' in my sig reflect the edits needed to get rid of the Sprint Update notices.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
I'm using el30 modem as well. When toad updates this rom to fc09 then ill update the modem.
[Epic 4G Android Development] murso74:
I miss this ROM
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Zander loves it ;) not even using one of my themes on it either. Just stock cleanGB+TwLauncher from my Epic Blurness theme(only one that was on my SD at the time rofl)

~E.R.A.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
LOL! I thought you figured out some magickal way of running FC09 in a stable way. Wishful thinking, I guess.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Others have offered to update this ROM to FC09 but Toad did not wish for anyone to use the CleanGB name with good reason. It is his masterpiece
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
I am taking this time to insert *another* shameless plug for people to go out and donate $5 to Toad.

Because if someone used the name without him, he or she would meet with an untimely end. To quote the Notorious B.I.G., "The *&#er would end up misplaced."

You ever see Mister Teatime's interview with the assassin guild's headmaster from Terry Prachett's "The Hogfather" ?? It would go down like that. "You nailed the programmer to the ceiling after slicing his throat?" "Yes, sir, I needed him to be quiet while I was using CleanGB."
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
I LOL'd at this Sadie...thanks.

Patience all...the chosen one shall return to us.
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
I am cash-strapped, but tell Toad I'll send him all the Red Bull he wants; this way, he can work all night on Clean for us!
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Speaking of care packages, I'm thinking that a good idea may be to donate a used Epic to the CleanGB cause if he doesn't already have an extra for BML_vs_MTD testing.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
It only takes a few minutes to odin back to BML, test, flash MTD and restore backup. It is not as big a deal as some make it out to be. I don't release anything BML or MTD unless I have tested it myself, then pass it on to testers.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Oh... I *forgot*... some of us can competently use Odin.

As opposed to those of us who brick our phones every time we use it because we forget to use a good cable from MonoPrice.com instead of the standard Samsung cable. *cough* me *cough*.

What about a "care package" for Toad consisting of soon-to-be-illegal drugs? I've heard bath salts are perfectly legal, help you program, and may turn you into a cannibal.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Now you are onto something Sadie...lol. Maybe a zombie survival kit so he can continue to update this when the apocalypse hits...lol.
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
Toad should be in the clear- he lives in California, not Florida
[Epic 4G Android Development] Devtodi:
Plenty of zombies in CA. :what:
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Haven't you watched the prep documentaries (zombie movies)? It spreads across the country in days!
[Epic 4G Android Development] JohnnyEpic:
(Delete) Pointless Fat Finger Accidental Non-Important Reply.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JRRinNC:
Done x2. All hail the Toad -- patiently awaiting his return.
[Epic 4G Android Development] gerrym:
Not here. EL30 has been okay. Battery life is good as long as I don't load Facebook. What a chatty little hog THAT is...

My mantra for many years in the IT trenches was "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup"... which I believe is a misquoted twist on some Tolkien.

I was always a hardware guy... and developers were treated as high priority because they kept us fed. :-)
[Epic 4G Android Development] imjuzdatguy:
EL30 To FC09 .zip file fix

Can some post the .zip file fix to the promp to update to FC09. I tried updating then flashing the rom and nothing and I tried the manual way and nothing is working. Please post the .zip file to fix this so I can copy and paste it manually into this rom
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
Here you go... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26067695 there is a flashable and one that you can just download and place in /system right above the flashable... if on mtd open and change any instance of bml to mtd... don't forget to reboot into recovery and clear cache and reboot!
[Epic 4G Android Development] murso74:
Redbull is expensive. Better off sending money
[Epic 4G Android Development] murso74:
Yeah cause all cali has to worry about is falling into the ocean. Send him a boat
[Epic 4G Android Development] uscpsycho:
I'm using stock 1500mAh Samsung batteries. I have five of them that I rotate. When one dies I put it in the wall charger and pop in the least recently charged battery. Before a battery totally dies I'll often top it off on the car charger or computer USB.

I don't think the article on LifeHacker is all that asinine. I've heard the same thing countless times and have never heard anything to the contrary until now. Regardless, old habits are hard to break so I rotate the batteries in the order they were charged to try to make sure they have a relatively equal number of charge cycles.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
I have 4 1500mah batteries 2 are since this phone launched and 2 are a year old. The 2 really old ones give definite way less battery life. The 2 newer ones give normal battery life still. I have had complete eradic charging cycles and still receive the same performance from the newer batteries. I'm excluding the older batteries cuz I have bumped charged those 2 multiple times and I'm pretty sure that's why those batteries have degraded more than other ones. Again I swap batteries at any random percentage ie. 10%, 24%, 44% whatever is necessary at the time. But I see the same performance from the batteries regardless.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Devtodi:
Okay it's June. (arms folded, tapping foot impatiently)
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
We need to get you some new batteries. Using stock 1500mAH batteries in a Samsung Epic is frustrating. Having five of them and rotating them is theater of the absurd. It's something out of a Luigi Pirandello play.

If you can afford it, purchase a Seidio 3500mAH battery off of Amazon.com. They're amazing. When properly charged and discharged, they will last all day while using GPS, 4G, and TeleNav. If you can't afford that, purchase a Laza, Acase, or that weird brand that begins with a "T" that I always forget about but makes really great batteries. (I call them "Taibo batteries... but Billy Blanks my hurt me for that).

The LifeHacker article is asinine and factually inaccurate to such an extent that I've thought about having some of my friends from material sciences who design lithium ion batteries for a living write a counter-article. To claim that ANY battery has no such thing as a hysteresis curve and/or that charging algorithms are 100% efficient is venturing into concepts beyond science fiction.

Next, they'll be saying that you should store all of your lithium ion batteries with full or empty charges since it doesn't matter since they don't degrade over time at different coefficients depending on the initial amount of static charge relative to total capacity.

What's after that? Oh, maybe they'll start claiming that hybrid cars place less stress on the environment because lithium ion batteries have a low carbon footprint... or that electricity comes from faeries so we should all drive 100% electric vehicles?

Where the *&^% did these people go to school? Somebody should lose his or her engineering degree for committing such acts of jackassery.

Your friendly, hopping, neighborhood Lagomorph,

--SN
[Epic 4G Android Development] buckhunter:
@ Sadie. Tell us what you really think lmao. But seriously ALL batteries will degrade over time. Another place you guys could check for batteries is an actual battery retail store like Battery One. They have alot of cellphone batteries at the one where I go.
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
I don't want a giant hump on the back of my phone. I'm waiting for oem et4g batteries to be a lil cheaper.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
And with one sentence I was properly dissed and dismissed. LOL! I tip my non-existent hat to you.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Cluefree:
You can put the 1800mah battery in from the epic touch... Same footprint. If Sadie would just develop a nice fusion battery for us...:p
[Epic 4G Android Development] uscpsycho:
Do the newer batteries give more accurate drainage readings on the phone? The really frustrating thing for me is having a battery with 10% juice left but the phone says 40%. Wonder if old age adds to the discrepency?

Not only do I have the five that I rotate through now but I have five more brand new ones that I've never used before (got those free from the Samsung booth at CES this year). Now, I rarely go through five batteries in a single day (it does happen though) but I rarely leave the house without packing spare batteries. There is no chance in hell I can make it through a whole day on one battery. Especially if I'm going to steam music/video or use GPS. Oh, wait, did I say GPS? I can't use GPS unless I want my phone to lock up within 10 minutes :(

Are the aftermarket batteries you mention the same size as the stock battery or are they thicker? I can't imagine a 3500mAh battery is the same size as 1500 so probably a silly question.

Thanks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
I find that larger-capacity batteries of high quality such as Mugen or Seidio tend to give a more accurate reading, but that may not be the case for other people. It could be simply a capacity versus error function.

The age of the battery certainly contributes to this factor. The charge memory of lithium ion batteries can go to hell in a handbasket in a nearly factorial fashion. I've seen laptop batteries become damn-near unstable after two years of consistent use within a period of a few days without any physical or other weird impetuses to be detected by my lab techs. Of course, these types of catastrophic failures are not endemic to lithium ion technology, it just happens to be that there's a bucket list of manufacturer issues surrounding their production that could contribute to the phenomena. Personally, I think most of the cells used by the majority of battery companies suck. I don't care if they're Japanese cells. I want to know which factory produced them.

Also, none of the batteries I mentioned use the same size backing as the original Samsung Epic.

I gave up on having protective case coverings a LONG time ago in order to have 3500mAH batteries. I'd rather have a large battery that works than a lot of smaller batteries and a protective case.

Remember... when in doubt... a lithium ion battery is a lot like a horse's...err... a rabbit's stomach. Empty it often. Fill it up to a decent capacity after emptying. Use it every day. And always cool it down after running it for long periods of time.

--SN
[Epic 4G Android Development] uscpsycho:
I bought this battery - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MB66B0/

Couldn't resist trying out this 3500mAh battery for $7 shipped. Worst case I'm out $7. Best case I can make it through most days on one battery. We shall see...

I'm sure it's unlikely but has anyone tried this battery?
[Epic 4G Android Development] DaggettBeaver:
Yes. It works great for me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Those $7 batteries are hit or miss... but who cares if it's $7?

Sometimes they're "True" capacity is 2000mAH. Who cares if it's $7? LOL!

Great thinking.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mynameistory:
I gotta say I had fun with CM9 and AOKP for a bit, but I came right back to this ROM last night. Even on its best behavior, AOKP would lose between 4-8% of battery an hour. With clean GB I'm doing 1.75%.

I themed the ADW launcher to ICS and I don't feel too left out. ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
I use the stock launcher and CleanGB is amazing for me. Ever tried that? It's smooth as all hell even when undervolted to 600MHz.

--SN
[Epic 4G Android Development] mynameistory:
When you say stock, do you mean AOSP gingerbread, touchwiz, or ADW? ADW is baked into the most current release of CleanGB.

I was really into Zeam for a while, but for some reason I decided I'd rather have big icons in the dock again. ADW is bulkier but has much more to customize, and still has the gestures I liked from Zeam (I'm too lazy to reach the notification bar most of the time, so the swipe down gesture is awesome). Being baked in makes it feel a little more surefooted too, I've had FC's and redraws on non-default launchers from time to time.

I don't mess around with clocking anymore. I like stuff mostly stock. Managing data connectivity from the toggles( and an E4GT battery) makes for a 50+ hour phone- miles ahead of the eight hour wheeze when I first got it. I'm happy. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] uscpsycho:
I don't know what is going on with my phone but there are times -- like today -- where I can't make it through more than two or three hours on a stock battery. And that's with me doing everything I can to make the damn battery last.

At these times the phone runs crazy hot and BBS shows kernel wakelocks that are sucking my battery dry. Unfortunately Google doesn't help decipher what the heck these wakelocks are associated with so I can't track down the culprit. I should be getting my 3500mAh battery any day now but when things are bad that will only briefly delay the inevitable.

While I'm in venting mode I'll express my frustration with Google Navigation. Hard for me to go more than five minutes before my phone is literally burning hot (often to the point where it shuts the charging off) and locks up requiring a battery pull. I thought it might be a hardware problem so I got a new phone from Sprint but I'm still having the same problem with Google Nav.

I love CleanGB because it definitely makes my phone more stable overall. But there are still times when battery life is horrific and Google Navigation is hopelessly broken for me.