yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S General] cool_yking:
i had an bad experience with with 3.0 by nuhetri-reloaded..

give a look at nexus mv.. 2.02.26
[Nexus S General] :
I think with nuhetri 3.0.0 there was a bug, solved now in 3.0.1
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
Well neither 3.0.0 nor 3.0.1 is available in nuhetri's thread for now.

I reckon it's because there are some bugs.

That's why only 2.3.0 is available at the moment.
[Nexus S General] xeTaiz:
i think his 3.0.0/3.0.1 is not working perfectly for everyone but there are also many people still running 3.0.0/3.0.1 although he got back to 2.3 for a more stable rom.

could you just leave the old result up too please?

(using 3.0.0 :D)
[Nexus S General] :
Sorry, I don't get you. Do you mean you want me to put the 2.3 result back? I can't, I deleted the data.
[Nexus S General] xeTaiz:
sorry :D

nop i want you to keep the 3.0.0/3.0.1 result up if you planned to remove it for a 2.3 result, because i think both results would be good :D

(if you already planned to keep both, 2.3 and 3.0, in theres no problem :D)
[Nexus S General] :
Oh right, I see. I'll just keep it the way it is. I'm not redoing old releases. I think his score went up, even if there were stability issues.
[Nexus S General] tycruickshank:
Thanks for all your hard work here
[Nexus S General] bluelyd:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1411734

PixelRom updated to 1.6.0 with 4.0.4!!!
[Nexus S General] JakeOcn:
Peter Alfonso's rom was updated as well
[Nexus S General] :
Cool, I'll get right on them!

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[Nexus S General] wildestpixel:
Were they nice results Bedalus ?
[Nexus S General] :
You know it ;)
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Pixel Rom v1.60 (Android 4.0.4) has shot up to 1st place!

wildestpixel posted just up there ^^ give him some well earned thanks!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=23211745

And visit his thread for downloads ^
[Nexus S General] ljordan2:
@bedalus

I have a suggestion, how about benchmarking stock 4.0.3 rom to see how it performs against custom roms.

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[Nexus S General] :
I had a good reason for not doing that, but I can't remember what it was. Hmm, laziness? But if it doesn't have an XDA thread, I'm not doing it. :)
[Nexus S General] wildestpixel:
I think kibmcz Rom is a good representation of stock as far as I can remember.
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Peter Alfonso Nightly (3rd March) tested, moves up to 4th place in the rankings!
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
I knew it! Ha! He's the man!
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Btw Peter's ROm default governor is Interactive, not Ondemand.
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
It seems that the new Pixel ROM raised the bar so high :D

---------- Post added at 05:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:09 PM ----------

bedalus is testing all the ROMS with T132-I using the same governor (performance). The new ranking results with the two T132-I passes are fair enough I think.
[Nexus S General] :
It looks good doesn't it. Hopefully that'll drive some more interest in that ROM.

I'm doing three passes from now on!
[Nexus S General] ssenbonzakura:
Trying out PixelRom :D
[Nexus S General] nexus_junkie:
4.0.4 must be very strong then. thanks, bedalus :)
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Slim ICS new version (2.8), moves up to #6

I've added a 4th "pass" to the results. It's not really a pass, it is just a collection of the maximum scores for each benchmark out of the three real passes. The peak score is then mixed in with the overall average.

What this does is adds a small beneficial compensation to any ROMs that have had any "bad luck" in any of their real passes. So if a ROM generally scores well, this helps highlight that.
[Nexus S General] reference.phone:
bedalus' benchmarks have a huge impact on us :p

thanks for your works :)
[Nexus S General] :
No problem. Which ROM and kernel do you use?
[Nexus S General] reference.phone:
the latest Peter Alfonso ROM with Air kernel atm

but I just want to give 4.0.4 a try.
[Nexus S General] rrohanjs:
One big thing uve managed to do is make me flash different roms everytime rankings change and its so addictive lol .. thanx buddy .. I'm actually enjoying it .. n I check this everyday to c any change in rankings: p
[Nexus S General] :
There will be more shuffling around soon, when 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 sources are released! ;)
[Nexus S General] flibblesan:
Meh.. Pixel 1.60 is just a kang of evilistos 4.0.4 ROM with Brainmasters tweaks. All the performance is down to the use of Brainmasters script, nothing else. No disrespect to the guy but he's getting credit for work someone else did.
[Nexus S General] :
We're all standing on the shoulders of giants.

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[Nexus S General] cowst:
Would it be possible to have also a stock in the benchmarks?

This way we also see if Google lags behind :)
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
Thanks bedalus. I'll just add that wildpixel has at least the merit to incorporate these tweaks in the ROM. Moreover, he gave credits to brainmaster in his thread's OP. I don't see anything wrong in this ;)
[Nexus S General] :
I think i might need to start up an faq. I've been asked this three or for times recently :)

Stock doesn't have an xda thread, so it's prohibited under my exclusion policy. :p

Actually, I'll do it due to popular demand but only if someone finds me a cwm flashable zip.

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[Nexus S General] :
Also, he exercised restraint, a talent in itself.

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[Nexus S General] rrohanjs:
I saw u got aokp build 22 but its reached till build 27 so maybe u could update that .. I know its against ur policy but the person handling the thread isn't to be seen here
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
I though this is the flashable full 4.0.3 ROM package.

http://android.clients.google.com/packages/ota/google_crespo/ZD3PyN0t.zip

Source: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1445635
[Nexus S General] bluelyd:
+1

Some romes you've got updated like peter alfolso ROM, are updates in their own homepage, but just alraming "info" on xda.

AOKP's xda thread's OP has not been updated too long, but users have been updated it by their posting. So it can be the 'INFO' thread, I think:p

AOKP is very popurar ROM in crespo's area, and my favorite ROM.

However, if you say "Because of my policy, I can't", could you tell me how can I make it update.

If I open the thread about AOKP ROM's INFO thread, could it got right? :D

I just wanna know "how" :)
[Nexus S General] :
I updated peter Alfonso's ROM because i was updating all of them when i changed my process. In fact, Pete's had to wait a few days because i knew he would update.

I'll redo AOKP but please can you post a download link? I didn't know it had updated, i am relying on other users to tip me off, otherwise i will spend more time reading and less time testing.

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[Nexus S General] rrohanjs:
http://forum.aokp.co/page/releases/_/build-27-r8
[Nexus S General] :
Thanks! :)
[Nexus S General] :
Okay, it says 9023 only, and I tried to flash it anyway, but got an error.
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
Weird, I've never got any errors when flashing it.

Mine is i9023 as well.
[Nexus S General] Jamalsid:
I think you missed Beadlus's point. I think he meant you posted a link for the i9023 and he has a i9020 but he flashed it anyway and it didn't work.

this is the link for the i9020T which is the UK model I have so I assume it yours too Bedalus.

Source: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1445570
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
Well I'm sorry then.

I thought bedalus has i9023 unless I'm mistaken.

That's why I posted also the source thread so that he could check it himself.
[Nexus S General] :
No, i mean mine is an i9020T

I checked the download stickied at the top of the general section too, which is supposed to work for all models, but it reports an error, something like "error int less than ro.date" then a number.

I wonder if there's a script to prevent it flashing over devices that have more recent firmware?
[Nexus S General] bluelyd:
oh, I'm sorry to late respond. already somebody did it! thanks to all.

and I'm sorry I say always "please do something" to you.

I'll give you huge thanks, sincerly.
[Nexus S General] :
It's the next one on my list. Already downloaded. :)

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[Nexus S General] bluelyd:
The best word about you in my mind is "Thank".

I always awe you, and gotta love you:D
[Nexus S General] krarvind:
just open the updater script and remove the first line of assert that checks for UTC time or copy that time and put it in the build.prop
[Nexus S General] ljordan2:
Mandaman2k v7 is released:D

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[Nexus S General] punitanasazi:
What about benchmarking for roms based on Android 4.0.3?

Is there a list for that too?

EDIT: My bad, I just checked the complete spreadsheet
[Nexus S General] ljordan2:
What do you mean? All the roms except for ones highlighted in red are based on android 4.0.3.

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[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
Mandaman v7 released yess :P
[Nexus S General] :
Hmm, the build.prop in /system? Changing it didn't work. There's another one somewhere else isn't there? And where's the updater script located?

EDIT: ZD3PyN0t.zip\META-INF\com\google\android

This must be it!
[Nexus S General] rrohanjs:
brainmasters miui is out :D ..
[Nexus S General] :
Downloading. I'm just doing stock right now...
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Stock ICS 4.0.3 benched!
[Nexus S General] :
UPDATE: Brainmaster's MIUI 2.3.2 ICS benched!
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
Wow, nice updates bedalus. Now we have all we need in the sheet. The ICS 4.0.3 stock reference and the sweet turbo boosted 4.0.4 ports.

I have one more conclusion from the results: it is clear that Brainmaster's tweaks improve the performance whenever they are included in a ROM.

What can I say bedalus... Awesome work. I just modified my signature to give you thanks every time I post in XDA ;)
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Interesting... The GB roms doing soo poorly. I had to flash back to stock GB today and damn! It is very responsive compared to any ICS roms.
[Nexus S General] bluelyd:
maybe because of ICS's animations;)

setting-dev's-animation-0.5x,.5x

make you feel responsive, none,none makes you feel "fast!!"
[Nexus S General] cowst:
so true, thanks bedalus!
[Nexus S General] :
When the next source is released there will definitely be some performance benefits. But it's the animations that are faster on gb, not anything useful.

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[Nexus S General] LKNim:
It's better 1x, 0.5x

If you set the Window Animation to 0.5x and you will lost the CRT screen off effect:rolleyes:
[Nexus S General] :
Where do we find these settings?
[Nexus S General] :
How do you do that?
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
It's in Settings - Developer options.
[Nexus S General] bluelyd:
You can enable it(crt ani) at "0.5x or none" state, if you are using AOKP.

can found at setting-romcontrol-general ui.:D
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Yes I understand its the animations. But it makes a huge difference in perception.
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
great post bedalus, hope you dont let it "die"!
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
Oh sorry, I mean I just written it in the signature and it will be displayed every time I post in XDA :D

Btw, what do you think about my conclusion about brainmaster tweaks?

PS1: There are some new ROM updates in the dev section : GummyNex 0.8.0 and Stuffed Crust! MIUI.

PS2: if the rythm of updates has increased, it's your fault with all these benchmarks bedalus :D
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
I feel sorry that the updates are coming quicker than ever when bedalus is not on vacation anymore.

Just keep it cool, bedalus.
[Nexus S General] krarvind:
bedalus, you have a PM. cheers
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
Google OTA reopened

Google reopened OTA channels today. Some old GB 2.3.4 users received OTA notifications for 2.3.6.

Source: http://www.olivettiolipad.com/2012/03/nexus-s-something-is-moving/

Maybe we can expect 4.0.4/4.0.5 too :)
[Nexus S General] :
I've just had two threads locked so there's less for me to maintain now. I don't intend to let this slide, but I am on holiday for a week now! :D Going away, so will try to wean off XDA a little :eek:
[Nexus S General] :
I think March was the target, so this seems reasonable.
[Nexus S General] incenx:
COOL :D this informed me so much :)
[Nexus S General] doa4ever:
GummyNex 0.8.1 is available. Stable & smooth & everything works.
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
Be patient, Benchmark Bedalus is having his holidays.

Let's give him some time to rest :D
[Nexus S General] xeTaiz:
he might need a pause although im not sure that he isnt benchmarking again, whereever he is :D
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
bedalus, i have a suggestion. How about testing one gingerbread rom? like oxygen or something similar, so we can compare ics performance with gingerbread.i know it isnt a fair comparison but i recently went back to oxygen and its much faster than any ics rom i have tried! Would like to see it benchmarked to see if it scores that much higher than ics roms.

when you have the time and if you want to do it of course.
[Nexus S General] glennkaonang:
Bedalus has already benchmarked 2 GB ROMs: Carbon (themed Oxygen) & CyberGR's

Check the spreadsheet, they're at the bottom.

As for feeling GB is faster than ICS, it's due to how we can adjust the animation being shown throughout the UI.

You could do the same in ICS via Developer options, though.
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
I tested it and disabled animation completely in ICS (first tried with 0.5x). Even stock GB 2.3.7 opens apps faster than ICS....I can live with a few milliseconds delay in ICS on most apps but what bothers me the most is the phone app in ICS, I want it to load instantly like in GB.
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
sorry, didnt notice it.

Believe me, gingerbread is way faster. i know how to adjust animation, i did that in both gb and ics roms.

gb is faster, installing apps from market,browsing, opening apps. Try it again after using ics and you will see;)

what i really dont like about ics is that when you dont use the application for a while, lets say messaging or dialapp, it takes a while to launch it again, kinda like the first launch after reboot but just a little faster
[Nexus S General] Cybergr:
Where GB scores way to low compare to ICS it`s definitely related to JavaScript and specially to Vellamo Surfwax binder test..If for example GB has got only a minor update regarding only the JavaScript Engine u won`t be able to see that kind of difference on the benchmark table..

Time changes though Android moves forward and so the benchmark apps do..!
[Nexus S General] LKNim:
Have you tried 4.0.4 IMM26 without mods(as stock as possible)?

That give me significant different from other 4.0.3/4.0.4 rom, especially multitasking and app launch time.
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
do you mean evilisto's rom?cant say i have...but i have tried nuherti rom(which is also 4.0.4) and noticed a significant improve in performance when compared to other 4.0.3 roms but still kinda slow. have not tried slim ics yet, which i hope works better because its stripped down
[Nexus S General] LKNim:
Yes, I tried both nuhetri and evilisto, evilisto is much better.

Currently using Pixel Rom Lite Touch(without mod)
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
and do you like pixel rom?is it the best?how about what i said earlier, when you dont use messaging app or dialapp for a period of time, does it take longer to load like if you were opening the app for the first time?

EDIT: nevermind, just tried pixelrom, oxygen still kicks the **** out of any ics rom...lol
[Nexus S General] alen1901:
I dont know how to read battery tests. Can someone tell me, which kernel/rom is best or kernel/rom combo is best for good battery life. I need medium to hard usage and to get 20-24 hours of battery. Tnx

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] :
Use any of the high performing ROMs and any of the kernels with a 1000 mhz default speed except eugene373's and cyanogenmod's. Then go to my battery thread and read the OP.

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[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Even stock GB is faster...oh man hopefully the 4.0.4+ ota gives us more speed...
[Nexus S General] :
Faster in what way? Animations? App opening times? App installation times? All of those things might create the impression of better performance, and certainly add to the user experience.

The only thing that measured faster on gb was Sd read speeds.

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[Nexus S General] wildestpixel:
The numbers speak for themselves. GB is graphically incapable of slowing its self down to the users eye.

Subject of GB should really cease as the stats have been proven more than once by bedalus.

The thread is all about ALL ICS ROMS BENCHMARKED. :)
[Nexus S General] Articudos:
Why don't you benchmark "2.3.2 miui- stuffed crust"?:-)
[Nexus S General] :
I will do, but I'm on holiday at the moment.

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[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
so this only proves that the benchmark method used can only be tested on ics roms...because gb is faster in animations, app opening times and installation times. Im not worshiping gb...it is just faster. Or maybe my phone and my friends phone has some flaw that makes ics run slower than gb lol...

Don't get me wrong, i love ICS but GB is much faster right now.

Surely you aren't saying that just because gingerbread scored lower in the benchmarks that it is worse than ics...even when playing games i get better performance on gingerbread. Maybe when ics is final it will be faster than gb or similar

Are you seriouly saying that ics has better performance than gb just because gingerbread scored lower in the benchmarks? Have you tried oxygen?
[Nexus S General] :
I think it's more likely that it merely appears to be faster.
[Nexus S General] warrenbey:
i have 2 nexus s, one running gb and one ics.

gb is faster then ics in almost everything !!
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
I am actually surprise ICS runs on our phones lol. ICS on the Galaxy Nexus takes 380+ megs of RAM alone. Our phones only have 512mb - (memory allocated to gpu, etc).
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
yeah, i have seen several people stating this and none stating the opposite.

gb is just faster than ics(currently), period. what counts is user experience, even if a benchmark says otherwise. they are different versions of an OS so the benchmark reacts differently(probably the reason of those differences in scores). It is not like testing the same version of an os using different roms or kernels...

this could easily be tested with both OS's running side by side in a video but i don't have two nexus anyway so...
[Nexus S General] warrenbey:
ics reminds me windows vista :p
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
+1 on this.. ics is a lot heavier for our NS.. it was made for the GN (like the ns came with GB)

So i hope the 4.0.5 update brings us our GB speed back! :D
[Nexus S General] tchaari:
lol, I have the same impression too but fortunately, Windows 7 made us forget Vista quickly. There are big chances that the next ICS 4.0.4/4.05 update will do the same ;)
[Nexus S General] migueldbr:
hope so, because even though i am back on gb, i really miss ics interface=p
[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Same here. Ics on the prime is soooo smooth and fast its crazy though...
[Nexus S General] vipyek:
Alwasys thank you
[Nexus S General] :
Ok while I'm on holiday I've set up cybergr's gb ROM, and i must say, it is noticeably smoother than any ICS ROM I've tried.

One simple test is scrolling in the new xda premium app. Even with performance governor, over clocked, scrolling is jumpy on three different high scoring ICS ROMs that I've tried.

With gb scrolling is very smooth with ondemand governor. However, i did not notice any improvement in app installation or opening times. I can't be sure about web page rendering times without a side by side comparison, but i doubt it is much different.

Scrolling performance is important in phones with such a restriction on screen size. However, ICS scores over GB in a few important respects. The transitions are more polished. The menus are more intuitive. Also there is an element of prestige in having a nexus, that we are one of the first to receive updates. Those things all have an impact on user experience.

If i could benchmark user experience i probably would! Hmm, perhaps I should devise some sort of mathematical system for this purpose...

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[Nexus S General] kong:
Do all of them have scrolling cache enabled?
[Nexus S General] :
Uhhh.... Not sure... Where's the option?

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[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
I think they all do. At least BB does.
[Nexus S General] :
The poor scrolling occurs in BB also. If it's enabled by default then it isn't the cache that's causing the stutters.

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[Nexus S General] rasengan82:
Did ulyou notice how long it takes to open phone app in all ICS ROMs? Driving me insane.
[Nexus S General] simms22:
theres already a seat at the crackflashers round table with your name on it :p
[Nexus S General] :
If you've not seen it, you may be interested in my battery drain thread. Links available in my signature or in this thread's OP
[Nexus S General] bendirkss:
Drew Garen hater? :s
[Nexus S General] :
Popular does not mean best!

I use the same benchmarking process here as I do for the kernel benchmarking spreadsheet, and if you check that (in particular sheet 2) you can see where I have eliminated the results with variability in excess of 5%. When combining the global scores, the variability averages out to just a shade under 2% (with a 95% certainty). In reality, the results won't be as far out as that, because of the system I use of combining different benchmark scores. It would have to be almost impossibly unlucky for every benchmark test to come out at its lowest possible. And if that ever happened, only then would its score be 2% down from what it would score on an average run. 2% variance is worst case scenario.

I promise, I will get around to stating all this in one of the reserved posts, once I've finished the tests.

Oh, and...

Best scoring benchmark does not mean best! Check ROM thread for features, design elements, included apps, karma, etc...

Thanks!
[Nexus S General] :
Of course not! Be helpful and post the XDA thread link! I'll add it!
[Nexus S General] bendirkss:
OK! I will when I get home.

Thanks ;)

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[Nexus S General] wildestpixel:
Intrigued to see the results here.

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[Nexus S General] :
Hello, me too.

You've probably seen that yours is near the bottom of the list so I won't be getting round to it for maybe a couple of days.

But I will say again, "Popular" does not mean "Best" - check ROMs thread for features, theme, included apps, user reviews, karma... etc...

I'm already fairly certain that some of the ROMs that haven't attracted as much attention as they deserve may benefit from this study. ;)