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[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
just the phone.apk is all
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
Thanks man, second question, from a rom or just a theme? or does that even matter?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
No. It shouldn't...but I thought you wanted a themed one?
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
Nope just want the option of changing the color in the Rom itself
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
You shouldn't have a problem...remember...if you flash you have to mount system...if you copy and paste the app in the system/app folder, use root explorer and make sure you make the folder r/w...either way, a reboot will be required.

Btw...try the rebirth theme...or try the purple monster oozing green theme...they are very nice fc09 capable themes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
Yea I just found out withe the blue phone apk from the Peoples rom that I can't simply transfer it to my phone and install it LOL

I haven't tried teh purple rom yet is it any good? the only ones I have tried are Peoples rom and Clean GB
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
They are not roms..they are themes only...go to the theme thread and search for them...they both (and others) have screenshots so you can see what they look like.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
It is the dialeractivity.apk you have to copy. That is where all the themeing takes place.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
Ahhhh tats why it didn't work

I did get one to work though along with everything else I applied the Emotionless Beast theme, now I have solved my font problem and my phone color problem LOL
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
OK, so you are comfortable with theming...good deal. One thing about the Beast theme is that it break the Connections Optimizer (new feature that came with FC09) so, if you liked it or used it, it is not available as an option in settings.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
The connections optimizer wasn't in the Clean GB that I saw anyway. Doesn't mater though we don't have 4g in this area except one spot up near "town center" And my wife only works when I'm in range of my router, other that that I'm on 3g
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Nope...only in FC09 ROMs.
[Epic 4G Android Development] amw1972:
wife's phone is on 1.1.2. its still on EL30...and its having some freezing issues and some data connectivity issues. Need some guidance on flashing modems and such...have tried to flash thru recovery..and obviously failed. Understand that it has somethin to do with MTD partition? So...what will I have to do to get her modem updated? Not familiar with the Epic tree of modems and kernels...but know how to use Odin...because of E4GT
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
Odin in a different modem... sticky (rolled up into one sticky) in development for the modems
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Connectivity may be tower issues but certainly try the FC09 modem. Freeze issues may occur due to tweak conflicts. Using Root Explorer with system set as r/w, go to system\etc\init.d and delete all the files in that folder (or copy them out to a computer and delete them). Then reboot. That should fix her freezes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] amw1972:
those files in etc\init.d aren't they the tweaks toad put into the ROM? Would her phone suffer?
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Her phone is already suffering. Not all phones like those combinations of tweaks. I found when I used them on TPR it caused freezes on about 5% of the phones.
[Epic 4G Android Development] amw1972:
THanks!!
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Me thinks that some noobs may be conflogulated with all the peoples stuff being said in the clean room...if u know what I mean...

Epic powered by CleanGB/MTD 1.1.2 (and lovin it)
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Point taken

Thread cleaned

Thanks

FNM
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
I have had both Clean GB and Peoples rom, both run fast on my phone both have the same battery life, but peoples rom 2.2 seems to run faster. and I love the little Android animation on startup, PLUS everything is Blue instead of Green ( not really a green fan, and I leik teh battery level indicator in 2.2 too saves me a download or two.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mpoehling:
Thank You, Very Helpful to me just wanted you to know and would like to follow you if it's okay.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Two things:

1. I'm still rocking this version on BML with the interface from version 19. None of the other releases for the Epic have come close to the stability of this combination on my phone.

2. I think everybody should donate $5 to Toadlife. If you can't donate $5, please donate $10 or $20.

Hoppingfully yours,

--Sadie Nibblesworth, your friendly, neighborhood Lagomorph
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
I'm rocking mtd version myself. I flashed some of the newer roms and its the color density they use that really brings me back to this rom. Its just naturally vibrant. I think the other roms use voodoo color which i just like the color to look good by default and me not having to mess with it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Frostacious:
I'm with you the best custom for ginger bread. Title says it all and most important no bloat ware!
[Epic 4G Android Development] yansen:
i'm agree with you all... this rom rock... really..

flasing from one to another... what happened is always back to cleanGB...
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
All the custom GB ROMs have bloat removed in one form or another. Sleeper has a lite and a full version, Thunderhawk has bloat removed, The People's ROM has bloat removed with a seperate flashable for those that want the Sprint apps, and Marcusant's ROM has bloat removed. You should look around a bit if this is your favorite part.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
I still have Clean GB on my computer just in case, but I have experimented with both MTD and BML and on my particular phone BML seems to run better.
[Epic 4G Android Development] axelfox:
Anyone have power issues?

Sometimes I would be on a lengthy phone call at adequate power capacity (~50%) and a popup would suddenly show up telling me I need to charge my phone and the phone would shut down.

I would plug it back in and it would immediately tell me I have more than enough battery.

In addition, the launcher would revert back to the TW Laucher and all my widget would disappear (actually the links would go away and it would say that there is a problem loading the widget).
[Epic 4G Android Development] xeks:
Running CleanGB MTD and love it so far. Looking to upgrade swype to the beta but in the past I've had issues uninstalling it. Anyone able to post a quick guide? I was using qbkings .zip but it was no worky and swype would just fc all day long.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
Frost has never ending love for Cleangb...which is a great rom...but there are several others that also have no bloat ware....do your research ....fc09 brings some add'l features that you might like.

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[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Well obviously the other ROMs do that...

But I think what you're missing is that the obvious superiorness and awesomeness (to quote Don King) of CleanGB is why so many of us swear by it. It works, it works well, and all of the other frills/bells/whistles/so-called-improvements of the other ROMs I have played with just don't bring anything to my Epic experience from a stability point of view.

Furthermore, is it *my* fault that CleanGB just works the best on my phone out of all of those ROMs? Why, I think not! Blame Toadlife for that.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
I

Spoken well, but also clearly from someone who has not tried other roms. Heck, Sleeper (another EL30) was and is still great rom, Random just did his new one even. FC09 (from Samsung) and in the same sense, People'sRom specifically, is an evolution of EI22 or EL30 greatness. Give it a go!
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
LOL! Really now? I have tried SleeperROM. Actually, SleeperROM v2.1 is the second most stable ROM for my phone. I tried out the 2.2 BML of People when it dropped (delta'd to FC09), and I rocked Thunderhawk III and now IV. Marcusant's 1.0 and 2.0 never liked my phone. Legendary hates my phone. I'm back to EL30 and CleanGB v.1.1.2 with the GPS 10 fix. I still have ACS ICS 5.0 on my phone's backup folder just because the thing *worked* so well, (better than 5.5 for me, unlike my friends).

So I fail to see how I have "clearly" not tried other ROMs?

Maybe you "clearly" have a bias against those of us who just really like this ROM since our phones *work* on it?

Stop drinking hella Hateorade, player, (unless, of course, you're hating on other ROMs for their lack of stability on your phone,)

--SN
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
Really? You have got to be kidding me...cro magnon!!!!

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[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
Basically everybody has their own preference for a rom, like it was said already all of them have the bloat removed. so for me it comes to color, boot, animation, and speed, when I was on Clean GB I ran like I was on stock, On Peoples rom I seem to run a little better, I like the Blue better then the green, I totally LOVE the boot animation, battery life seems to be better, but I HAVE done some different thing since I went to People Room so I can't say its just because of the Rom, but all this is just my personal prefs somebody else might not like what I liek so they will use Clean GB just like I am on BML not MTD I flashed back so I could use ACS recovery instead of CWM, why? I like the little shield on ACS....then again personal prefs.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Cluefree:
Ha...she busted you...:p
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
I have always said..."the phone chooses the ROM"

Mine loved loved loved SRF 1.2, but a lot of folks said their Epics would have preferred iOS to SRF 1.2. So what is good for the goose is not, necessarily as they say...

Toad...if you're reading, we hope all is well with you and that you return to us soon. CleanGB was, is, and always will be a "classic favorite"!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
Yep, old rom and all!!..bet she is pretty sporting the ol EL30 too! Maybe I can ask her to the dance...if she walks upright...;)

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[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Exactly. *Maybe* some of us should all be hating on Samsung for making this phone that is fantastically stable with CleanGB v.1.1.2 BML?

A work colleague of mine still uses ACS ICS 5.5 and spliced in a different TouchWiz version. He has openly threatened my life if I put another ROM on there while he is blacked out at his workstation from post-Cinco de Mayo festivities.

BY THE WAY... maybe some of you could leave the ROM arguments behind and start working on kernel development? That's where all of the hot action is, in my opinion.

Hoppingfully yours,

--SN, (who is a rabbit and thus walks around on all fours)
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Actually TPR has a brand new FC09 kernel from Earthbound. I respect your loyalty to Toadlife Sadie. He is my inspiration to try to live up to the bar CleanGB set. I specifically told Earthbound no super tweaks, I wanted the most stable FC09 ROM I could make. Thanks for defending CleanGB. It is still the bar in my opinion too.
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Hey K,

My friends like your work. How are your kernel development skills?

Maybe I should speak to Earthbound.

I have been thinking about just biting the bullet and developing a new kernel for Samsung phones... but it would work from the ground-up so no current ROMs would work with it. I envision something done in binary that would incorporate elements like Singularity.

I'd have to rope some friends into it who have experience developing new compilers. I guess if you can program in oCAML, you can probably figure something like this out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Sadie Earthbound is definitely the person to talk to. He has the time and the knowledge. That's why I asked him to build me a kernel from FC09 source. Bbelos is tied up porting the 3.x kernel for CM9.

And thanks to your friends for the kind words.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
I rooted my oldest sons phone last night yet another Epic Failure), this thing was on its way out so bad when I was about to plug in the usb cable the o/s totally crashed and all I had to work with was a brick, would up odin in all the way back to total stock and rooting , he wanted Clean GB on his phone, so I downloaded the BML version and installed it, Now I gotta download and install the apk.s that he needs to do what I do on mine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] balagyi:
anyone know where is toad? hope he is ok.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
He is fine. Swamped with life and family. His account still shows recent activity and he popped in a month ago to say hey. I think he said he would be tied up until the end of May.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JeffATL:
Started getting system update available messages today. How to stop?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1588683

this will do it...:)

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[Epic 4G Android Development] JeffATL:
Are you using GPS fix from first post or is there a newer one?
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
Why thank you for asking for clarification.

I use the 10-satellite fix interchangeably with the base 2-satellite setup.

Are you having GPS issues? What program are you using for navigation? Where (roughly) are you having issues, if any? Are you having dead-zone (blackout) issues? Lookup issues (confirming a location, etc)?

Please render unto us some examples so somebody smart here can help you, since I am *not* a GPS expert. (I worked on satellites for a short time, but only to hurt people, not help them. LOL!)

As for my own program preferences, I use a mix of them, but, in general, I tend to use Google Navigation from Google Maps. When I am lazy, I find that Telenav is tolerable.

In a major city like Chicago, the 10-GPS fix kicks serious butt when used with a navigation program that works, like Google Navigation! Then again, in a major city like Chicago, it seems that GPS *works* better on a whole.

Telenav is more of a problem than GPS fixes. I have seen it fail to work on friends' phones, colleague's phones (a LOT of people I do research with use a Samsung Epic,) and students' phones, (I have "rooting parties" for my students). It seems to be epic1337failsauce for a lot of major places almost regardless of 2-satellite fixes or 10-satellite fixes or whatever ROM you choose. Maybe it's magickal and refuses to accept Samsung Epic as the superior smartphone? I don't know.

Sure, it's great when there's a clear sky and a decent connection... but if you *think* about going analogue, it'll pee its pants and run home to its mama.

In other words, avoid letting picky GPS steer you away from this ROM unless you have observed vastly superior GPS performance elsewhere and that is important to you.

Hoppingfully yours,

--SN
[Epic 4G Android Development] gerrym:
In the past with CleanGB just accepting these Sprint updates and allowing it to 'try' to install would satisfy its needs and render the phone working fine with no more notifications. Same with the current MTD?

Sprint's notifications are starting to be irritating... :-(
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
I have not seen a new fix since the "EL30 GPS Fix.zip" file. Now, I am on TPR 2.2, and Kenny gave me a great suggestion; if you use "GPS Test" from the Google Play Store, try launching and then hit "menu" then "settings". On the top, first hit "clear AGPS" and then "Update AGPS". If that doesn't work...

If that doesn't work, what do you do, Kenny??
[Epic 4G Android Development] SadieNibblesworth:
I used the temp-booting EL30 release... booted... hit system update... hit the PRL update while I was in it... booted back to CleanGB and haven't seen a system update since!
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Reboot with GPS on. Then try both things again. If still no satellites show it is time for a visit to Odin. I odin to stock, test gps (4 satellites I know), root and flash ROM of choice with GPS on and locked. Now test again. Then flash gps_fix if your ROM doesn't have it built in like TPR.
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
Thanks, Kenny. For some reason, the "thanks"button isn't working on my Nook.

I've used the a/m fix and it works like a charm.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
Am I the only one on the planet that can root a phone install a rom and have no gps problems ?
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
No, but some days it seems that way don't it? LOL.
[Epic 4G Android Development] JeffATL:
Are you saying that the way to fix this is to move on from CleanGB??? CleanGB has been incredibly stable, great battery life, , I seriously have not needed to boot into CWM in months. On my previous ROM, I was always in there.

This rom is so stable its bad for XDA because I don't visit as much (meaning less website hits in terms of ad revenue) =)

It was the annoying system update messages that have brought me back. Perhaps I will let it do the update, fail and that will probably fix it temporarily.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Cluefree:
You don't have to leave cgb... You need to edit you're build.prop file to say fc09 instead of el30...
[Epic 4G Android Development] benjamins_2002:
Where is this "build.prop" file? Also, if I did run the update, what would it do? Would it overwrite CleanGB with an unrooted stock rom?
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
I do not believe you can take the OTA update whilst rooted and running a custom ROM. Also, the "build.prop" file is in the system/ folder.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
It would fail... you would reboot and not be nagged for about a week about the update...

Sent from my SPH-D700 using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
I swear sometimes my posts are invisible! I know it can't be that people don't search or even read back a couple of pages.

Use Root Explorer (I think ES File Explorer would work), set system to r/w. In system directory long press on build.prop and choose open in text editor. Change every EL30 to FC09. I think there are 5 of them in there. Save and exit. Reboot. If you already have the notification accept it, let it fail, pull battery after failure. Wipe Cache and Dalvik. Should be good.

Or flash The People's ROM. I make sure The People never get plagued by update notifications.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
Yea it does, I have Peoples Rom 2.2 without the GPS fix, my oldest had Clean GB until he broke his phone today, his next Phone will have clean GB on it without the GPS fix and he will be accurate within 3 feet too,
[Epic 4G Android Development] Milkman00:
Since Toad has been busy and unable to update CleanGB, I was thinking of installing the People's ROM. Do you like it better/worse than CleanGB??? I am mostly concerned with battery, then followed by speed of phone.
[Epic 4G Android Development] gondo77:
If I may chime in, I was on CleanGB until a few days ago when I flashed The Peoples ROM 2.2 (BML).

TPR 2.2 is significantly faster than CleanGB, but I've had about a half dozen battery-pull freezes, most of which involved the Dolphin and Opera Mini browsers.

To help with battery life in TPR, be sure to install Voltage Control and configure the settings as described in the TPR thread, with 100MHz enabled and Scheduler/Governor set to sio/intellidemand, save those settings and apply them as the boot defaults. I noticed when I first started using TPR, the battery life was worse than CleanGB, but those VC settings have helped a lot, now the drain difference between the 2 is smaller.

I don't care for the launchers in TPR, but it does give you 3 choices and they were included for speed and low-resource reasons. I liked ADW in CleanGB, with the notification add-on, even if the notifications were a little out of whack (some appeared on the wrong icons).

My personal opinion is TPR sacrifices some stability in the name of speed, hopefully things will get ironed out in time. CleanGB is an all-around excellent, stable ROM but it's lack of continued development made me look elsewhere.

And I think Kenny's attention to TPR is terrific so far, along with creating a fine ROM he deserves credit for that too.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mbellot:
The thing I have found in TPR to make the biggest difference in battery life is Connection Optimizer. Having the phone switch to WiFi when I'm at work or home has added huge usable life to a single charge.

FWIW - Some of the stability may be kernel related. I have had no problems with stability on TPR, but I've been running the CleanGB kernel from the OP instead of the Samurai kernels that come stock with TPR. You lose some of the voltage control options, but IMHO stability has been near perfect.
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
You can download ANY launcher you like from the Play store. They all work on TPR 2.2, to my knowledge.

[/QUOTE]And I think Kenny's attention to TPR is terrific so far, along with creating a fine ROM he deserves credit for that too.[/QUOTE]

Kenny is "Dev Extraordinaire"! His attention to detail and his overall knowledge of Android (and the Epic 4G) is amazing. I am proud to say I am "Of the People, by The People, and for The People..."
[Epic 4G Android Development] gondo77:
Good point, I forgot about Connection Optimizer, a definite plus for battery life.

Agreed the stability issues are kernel-related, I'm going to give the CleanGB kernel a try shortly. Earthbound is probably a bit too cutting-edge for my tastes, despite making some awesome kernels ;).
[Epic 4G Android Development] Naddict:
Yeah...what he said....

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[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Ummm....you guys know you are in the CleanGB thread right? As much as I appreciate the kind words this is the Awesome very stable CleanGB that all ROMs strive to be. Bring it on over to the TPR thread. Thanks guys!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Milkman00:
Has anyone had problems with Wifi tether in Beta14???
[Epic 4G Android Development] jbadboy2007:
Why aren't you using the hotspot hack?
[Epic 4G Android Development] xeks:
Quick question, been running EL30 CleanGB MTD and today I got a prompt to update to FC09, safe to say yes to the system update? Or is there something more specific/better I should do?
[Epic 4G Android Development] RandomKing:
People often don't see an answer in the very page they're posting, let alone 1 page back!

Maybe it's time to sticky a notice about this? Lot's of people are still running EL30.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Milkman00:
I read about it in passing, and never looked into it. The hack is already built into CleanGB isn't it??? I could just activate the hotspot, and will be set?
[Epic 4G Android Development] rvr9999:
Here we go. Kenny, change version number too?
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
No EL30 is already 2.3.6. EI22 was 2.3.5. So 2.3.6 is already there.
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
Personally I'm a Peoples Rom 2.2 guy, it and Clean GB have many of the same features, and similar battery life but I like the boot animation of Peoples Rom and the Blue instead of the Green, plus peoples Rom has a couple of apk's that Clean is without
[Epic 4G Android Development] xeks:
So...I assume upgrading to FC09 would be bad and I should just go and edit the build.prop?
[Epic 4G Android Development] wolfen1086:
I was under the impression that being rooted I couldn't receive updates ota from Sprint anymore?
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
My understanding as well. That's why you pop the battery if you take it and have it fail...