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[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] skeeterpro:
Agree. Am running the port of CM9 on my NC and while it's sweet and interesting...waiting for the official release is the way to go as its so close.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] bdds13:
I seriously doubt samsung will release ICS for our g-tab Q1. If we're lucky it will be Q2, but i'm thinking worst case scenario Q3.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] ringnutz:
I believe they have stated q1 numerous times I'm new to samsungs so I'm not completely sure if they are true on their release dates. It seems to me it would be a waste of time for the devs to even bother until ics is officially released
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Codiusprime:
Samsung has a laughably bad reputation as far as updates go, if they aren't the worse then they are close to it. I would like to see ICS hit Q1 but I will expect it sometime this summer or fall.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] lrs421:
Not to derail but you can argue that all android manufacturers are slow with updates, Samsung gets a lot of attention because they sell a lot of phones.

With that said, Samsung is painfully slow and I think this device stands little to no chance of a Q1 update, just my opinion.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] rkmj:
Whenever a carrier, (e.g. AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon) gets involved, the updates slow to a crawl. In all fairness to Samsung, they've been pretty good with updates to the 10.1. I've seen an update to 3.1 and 3.2 since I bought mine on launch day, and they were fairly quick. Mind you, I'm taking into account the fact that Samsung had to put touchwiz on Honeycomb and fix some of the issues that were left behind when Honeycomb launched. We've also seen Samsung move rather quickly to resolve issues on the 7Plus, including an update that dropped last night that is supposed to fix the SOD issue. All in all, Samsung has been good about updating its wifi-only devices, so while I'm confident that the phones will miss that Q1 deadline, I have high hopes for the tablets.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] lrs421:
I hear you but talk to original galaxy tab wifi owners who are still rocking GB.

Hmmm, there was an ota last night?

On topic, I would cm9 on this device. Fingers crossed.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] painter_:
The reason I asked this is not so much that I can't wait for ICS. It is more derived from wanting an ASOP-ish experience. I am also thinking about the future. OEMs are usually good for the first year of supporting the devices they make. Then they start to fail claiming that the device is not "compatable" with the latest version. I have an old HTC hero that my son uses as an MP3 player. It is running CM7 and the OEM claimed that it would not support gingerbread, heck they even have an ICS port for it.

CM seems to have a good record of keeping supported devices working. I am sure that once ICS is released for the 7 plus there will be custom builds available.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] rkmj:
I am an original galaxy tab owner still rocking GB. (I've flashed ICS, but I decided to rollback until the camera issues have been solved and more of my Gameloft purchases are updated for ICS compatibility,) I'm not overly upset that Samsung didn't update it to ICS, but that may just be a personal thing.

Samsung started rolling out an OTA last night that will be pushed to all devices over the next two weeks.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] lrs421:
Official GB? Last I checked the original galaxy tab 7 owners were still rocking Froyo, officially.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] rkmj:
Official GB. If I were still on Froyo, then I'd be quite upset at Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Codiusprime:
They are not only slow but also the updates themselves are notoriously bad and it usually takes a long time for bug fixes. Samsung's software development side is really not that great.

You are right though, as of right now all of the manufacturers suck pretty hardcore. It's pretty ridiculous really, hopefully they get better with releasing fewer devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] h2g2:
Yes, it is key to not forget the carrier influences and also bear in mind that carrier-specific variants of, e.g., the Galaxy S2 were not within the scope of Samsung's ICS in Q1 announcement.

My previous phone was the Epic 4G. It was the first US carrier variant to receive official Froyo and Gingerbread updates but it received them well after the "stock" Galaxy S model (GT-I9000, I believe) received them.

So in other words, when looking at Samsung's update record, remember to compare apples to apples. Nexus One got its official Froyo upgrade in May of 2010, I think. The GT-I9000 got its official Froyo upgrade in August. Gingerbread was released in December of 2010 on the Nexus S. I believe the Nexus One got its upgrade in January of 2011 and the GT-I9000 got its GB upgrade in March of 2011.

All in all, not too shabby for Samsung. It's only when you factor in variants (which have all been customized to various degrees which require OS customization) and carrier agendas (I believe AT&T let its phones languish on 2.1 for a good while to not have them be competitive with the iPhone, which was AT&T exclusive at the time) that Samsung's rep starts to take a turn.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Entropy512:
The I9000 vs Captivate is probably the clearest example of the negative effect a carrier can have on update releases.

The I9000 and Captivate were close enough that it took developers here very little time (days maybe? weeks at most...) to begin running I9000 releases on the Captivate. However, it took on the order of nine months from the I9000's GB release before the Captivate officially received Gingerbread.

Similarly, Samsung has only been slightly behind other tablet vendors in Honeycomb updates for the Tab 10.1, mainly due to being the first vendor to include a custom skin - but "behind" has usually been at worst 1-2 months of delay.

Similarly, the I9100 is scheduled to receive ICS in March and Sammy seems on track with that. However, the I777 (AT&T variant) probably won't see official ICS until 2013...

For the 7.0 Plus - for the developers the Tab does have, I think polishing the current HC releases is the top priority. Honestly, ICS offers far less compared to HC than it does compared to GB, and right now, there's some major work to be done on the 7.0 Plus thanks to Samsung being asshats with regards to AR6000 driver source code. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] chad_k69:
Yep, mine was GB right out of the box! Love this little device!
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Nicolfa:
Mines has 3.2 with honeycomb. Not sure what version that is.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] bdds13:
If you're talking about the Samsung galaxy tab 7 plus, then no it doesn't come with gingerbread, it comes with honeycomb 3.2 . Gingerbread is 2.3. Gingerbread is only for the original samsung galaxy tab 7 (not plus)

3.2 IS Honeycomb
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] lrs421:
We were talking about the original galaxy tab and Samsungs update procedures.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] tonebone:
So, I have been trying to find out if the 8.9 has similar hardware as the 7 plus does. If so why couldn't the 8.9 CM9 be used on the 7 plus? I haven't been able to find much, the fake blogs and websites are really getting annoying.

CM9 for the 8.9

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1435868
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] rkmj:
The 8.9 and the 7 Plus have different hardware, namely the processors, the IR blaster on the 7 Plus, and other minor hardware differences. The 8.9 has a 1Ghz NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor, and the 7 Plus has a 1.2Ghz Samsung Exynos processor. There are other differences, such as the lack of an IR blaster in the 8.9, but the largest hurdle in porting 8.9 CM9 would be driver and functionality incompatibility, (especially on the processor front.) You would need to port CM9 to the 7 Plus. Without the proper kernel and drivers, it would just bootloop, or worse, brick.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] tonebone:
Hey thanks man, I have been trying to figure out the differences for quite some time and you just summed it all up, I knew in the back of my mind if it was that easy it would've been done already.

I just went from ICS on my Kindle Fire to the 7 plus, and its like owning a Ferrari now compared to the Fire. This device is so much smoother, and really all it is lacking is the pretty blue icons of ICS.

Cheers!
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Richdog:
Because reading a spec sheet and product page is a complex task... :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] dexterstyles:
So far, I agree. I am hopeful for the ICS update but Q1 is half way over. Got my fingers crossed for early Q2.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] tonebone:
How does this help anyone? Next time before you waste your time and everyone else's just move on, sitting in your Mom's basement making asinine comments won't help you get in Cousins pants any faster. Besides, you're not supposed to think of your cousin in that way, he probably doesn't appreciate it.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] h2g2:
In tonebone's defense (as well as for everyone else who has asked this question), product pages are exceedingly misleading when it comes to the question of "can a ROM for device X run on device Y".

The spec sheets will tell you, for example, that the GTab 8.9 and 7 Plus both use dual-core Cortex A9 processors that implement the ARMv7 instruction set, both have the same amount of RAM and both run Android Honeycomb. Same processor, same amount of RAM, same OS - nothing that screams that the ROMs are mutually incompatible.

rkmj hit the nail on the head, the key factors are kernel availability and driver availability - coupled, of course, with an appropriately talented and motivated developer or developers who are willing to hack away at the code. The end result has everything to do with the maturity of the development community around a particular device and little to do with the design of the device itself. And the only way to gauge this is to ask.

Of course, if you find the question annoying, you could do more to explain why the ROMs are incompatible. I'm not going to claim I've seen all the threads where this question has been asked but I have yet to see one where the one who asked the question was properly educated on the effects of, e.g., statically linked kernels, encrypted driver firmware blobs, signed bootloaders, etc. have on rendering ROMs from one device unusable on another, seemingly similar device.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] painter_:
It looks like every version of the Galaxy tab has a unofficial CM 9 port now with the exception of the Plus.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] chrisrotolo:
Can any ROM be built proper without wifi driver/module ?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] h2g2:
Yes, though you would not have networking at all (unless you had working cellular networking).

ROMs in general can be put together from a variety of sources - recall that the Nook Color and Galaxy Tab received Honeycomb ports based on the Honeycomb SDK combined with an available kernel. Of course, such efforts tend to be buggy - I don't have experience with the NC one but the Galaxy Tab, as I recall, lacked support for things like video acceleration.

But that doesn't really help for CM9, which is an AOSP port and thus, needs to be compiled from source.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] cdrom1028:
For what its worth im rocking CM 9 on my Nexus S, I anyone wants to build a CM9 or an ASOP ver. For the G Tab 7+, sign me up, I want to help. Having ICS will improve this already very cool toy. Now that i know their is plenty of support for the IR port and therebis allshare for ics
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] kmmxracer:
I wonder how similar the device tree would be of the GT-P6xxx would be to the 10.1 and 8.9?? Does anybody have a good source of the exact hardware inside these devices?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] acolwill:
From what I can tell, the GT-P6200's hardware is most similar to the GT-i9100
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] aorth:
Honestly, just google it. You'll hit either gsmarena or Wikipedia, both of which can give you a very accurate description of the internals of these devices.

Basically, the Tab 8.9 and 10.1 use a Tegra2 System on a Chip (SoC), while the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Note, and the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus use an Exynos SoC and an ARM Mali 400MP GPU. Completely different hardware. Entirely!

You, sir, are correct. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] acolwill:
I'm ashamed to admit it sometimes as it happens all the time ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] painter_:
I was looking at http://stats.cyanogenmod.com/ this morning and saw this. No idea if it meas anything.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] acolwill:
that means nothing
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] kmmxracer:
I found an App that tells me alot about the device. Its called Quick System info
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] acolwill:
This is what ASI references the Exynos as in the GT-P6200

SMDKc210

http://yicsystem.com/yic/xe/939

As opposed to the smdk4210 which the SoC is referenced as in the GT-i9100
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] aorth:
Yah, the Galaxy S Plus was a lower-end version of the Galaxy S. Snapdragon processor instead of Hummingbird, no Wolfson Micro hardware audio codec, no Gorilla glass, etc...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lordloki77:
[Q] app "system" package "system" requesting superuser permissions

I just noticed when my phone was booting (using AOKP m3 if that is relevant) that I was getting a "system has been granted superuser permissions" shortly after I log in. I removed the allow entry from superuser, and now when I boot I get a App : system Package : system is requesting root(0). Is this normal? I feel like the system shouldn't need root permissions, and any app that actually does should be identifying itself.

Anyone else experiencing this (or has?) I'm tempted to wipe the phone and start-over; I don't like granting superuser permissions to things that don't identify themselves properly. (Alternatively, is "system" a real thing that should be requesting superuser permissions?)

Thanks!

*if this should be moved to the Q/A forum, please do that? I placed it under CDMA android dev because I think it may have something to do with my rom or otherwise.*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cshort0982:
Yea that's normal for that rom. Its the ROM control function that is built in.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WiredPirate:
Ive been on AOKP for weeks now and System just requested root yesterday?.:confused: I was going to ask the same question but found your answer here, thanks for that! Also the ROM control needing root for System sounds very plausible, but its weird that it is just now requesting it after all this time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mehtuus:
I just had this happen to me with my GalaxyTab 10.1 (7510wifi). It has stock rom and restore, however it is rooted.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anary:
Hello, fellow gTablet users!

I'm kinda newbie here, so first of all my apologies to everyone if that was already asked, 'cause I did some research on the matter and couldn't find all the necessary info for solving my particular issue.

Ok, so here's the deal. I was using my gTab for about half-year now. When I received it, I installed VeganTab-7 Ginger Edition on it (thanks for the devs - very nice ROM!) and it worked flawlessly until yesterday. But then something not good happened and the tablet stopped booting. Now it starts from birds screen, goes on to G-Tabdevs screen, after which VeganTab GingerEd boot screen appears, it has flashing letters for a couple of seconds and then tablet goes black and tries to boot again. I guess it's a boot loop so it's kinda soft brick and I'll have to do wipe data/factory reset through CWM to solve the issue. So this isn't the biggest problem - I've already found all the instructions.

The real problem is that I didn't make backup of my data (guilty!), but I don't want to lose some of it, especially the browser data. I was using Opera Mobile, so I guess that its data should be on /data partition. So I'll need an advice on how I can dump the necessary data before doing factory reset!

I've already tried connecting to desktop, using guide from this (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1010943) thread (third method from it), but it didn't work, at least on my Win7 Pro x64 SP1: the tablet shows as removable disk, but I can't access it. I tried to mount /data or /sdcard partitions through CWM recovery menu, but it tells me that it can't find /dev/block/... - I guess that's block device, associated with those partitions. So what are my best options of backuping data?

And the last question: I'll probably install some other ROM just to try something different, but unfortunately I don't remember what loader I have. I'm nearly sure that I installed VeganTab for 1.1, 'cause I did it back in May 2011 and there wasn't one available for 1.2 yet. But just to make sure: how can I find my loader version before I do reset? Or maybe I just have to do the reset and look for it when back on stock ROM?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anary:
Seriously, guys, doesn't anybody know how to solve these problems?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajeevvp:
Boot into CWM first, then try mounting both /data and /sdcard using the CWM menu. Note down the exact error message displayed in each case. Then connect the USB cable and run these ADB commands on your PC:

C:\> [B]adb shell dmesg >dmesg.txt[/B]
C:\> [B]adb shell fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk3 > fdisk.txt[/B]
C:\> [B]adb shell fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk2 >> fdisk.txt[/B]

Post the error messages and those 2 .txt files here.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anary:
Thank you for reply, rajeevvp.

When I'm trying to mount /data and /sdcard it says respectively:

E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk3p2
(No such file or directory)
Error mounting DATA:!

E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk3p1 (or /dev/block/mmcblk2p1)
(No such file or directory)
Error mounting SDCARD:!

Unfortunately I didn't have ADB installed. Now I'm trying to use the guide from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=902860, but fail on step 4, cause there is nothing like "Nvidia harmony" appearing under other devices in my dev manager, just "Nvidia Tegra 2 USB Device" under Disk Drives and "USB Mass Storage Device" under Universal Serial Bus Controllers. I guess these devices are gTablet's internal memory presented as disk drive...

I'll try to install ADB and then write back how it worked.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajeevvp:
Interesting error messages. Now I really have to see those text files.

If you're having problems installing ADB on Windows, try using Linux.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anary:
Ok, thanks you very much! I'll try that, but unfortunately tomorrow, as it's already too late here.

Btw, I read your post about linux - you're suggesting Knoppix Live CD there. Is it mandatory to use it? I mean I already have PartedMagic live CD burned, maybe I could use it instead...
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajeevvp:
If sudo and adb work, then no problem.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anary:
Ok, I finally managed to do it. Sorry for the delay.

The files are attached. Did everything how you told me.

Actually I don't think that I understand too much in Android inner mechanics :) But having looked through these files, I thought that inner sdcard device (mmcblk3) doesn't seem to produce any strange behavior...

Btw, thanks a lot for your advice about using Knoppix - it's really very easy and handy!
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajeevvp:
You have lost your /data partition altogether. You are supposed to have 2 partitions on that internal SD card: a 14GB FAT32 partition and a 2GB ext3 partition. You only have a single FAT32 partition spanning the entire SD card now.

I may be able to help you get both partitions back if you give me these details:

1. How and when did this happen?

2. Current ROM.

3. Current version of CWM.

4. Did you try to repartition the (internal) SD card recently?

5. Have you ever repartitioned the internal SD card? If yes, then using which version of CWM?

6. After you noticed the problem what steps did you take to fix the problem?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anary:
Yeah, I remember I was curious where it stores OS's kernel if all it has is FAT32 partition - now I get it...

Ok, here are the details:

1. I don't really know what has happened, but I guess that it happened when I tried to use tablet like cardreader for microsd card. During that I sort of formatted external sd - maybe that actually was internal memory? I checked through file manager though, and all the files seemed intact...

2. VeganTab GingerEd from this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1031250. I'm pretty sure that I didn't install anything except for it.

3. Don't know. But it says ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.1-bekit-0.8 in recovery menu, so I guess its version is maybe 0.8.

4. No I didn't, at least intentionally.

5. I think I did it just once, when installing the ROM. I'm pretty much sure that I used this instructions for repartitioning: http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/repartition.htm (not exactly this, but I did the same as it's written there). To install the ROM I used the instructions from the ROM thread, mentioned above. I didn't whant to do a lot of modding, just wanted the device to work at least better than with stock ROM, so didn't try to change any other low-level things.

6. I just tried to mount partitions through CWM recovery and I tried wiping out cache partition and Dalvik cache. Nothing else.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajeevvp:
The OS kernel is not stored on the SD cards. They're stored on a "boot" partition on the NAND flash. And, if the OS was messed up you would get hung up on the initial splash screen (the one with the 3 birds)--you wouldn't go into a boot loop.

That's what caused this problem. CWM-2.5.1.1-bekit-0.8 does not work on the external SD card (but, CWM-2.5.1.3 and CWM-4.0.1.5 do).

Did you format the internal SD card using CWM?

Files where? The internal SD card or the external one? And, how did you check this? After formatting the internal SD card, the very next boot into the ROM would've put you into a boot-loop because the /data partition is missing.

I think I may be able to get stuff from /data, but, everything on /sdcard is most likely gone. (Actually, the files are most likely all there, but, without direct access to the tablet, it's very difficult to get the retrieve any of them.) Just don't touch the tablet until I've figured out the commands you will have to use.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anary:
No, I was going to format external SD card and I tried to do it through Android (or maybe VeganTab) menu. I think that doing this, I could accidentally format internal SD, but I'm not sure this could be done from within the OS. During the same logon session I checked files on internal SD with file manager and all of them were where they should have been. So I thought that all was ok. But when I rebooted next time, it wasn't booting... That's why I told you that maybe it was because of formatting.

And just to be clear: I didn't do anything using CWM after it stopped booting, apart from wiping system and Dalvik caches.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajeevvp:
Do you have a large capacity micro SD card (anything larger than the maximum amount of data that's currently on the internal SD card) that you can use to save retrieved data into?
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anary:
Yep. Won't be any problem.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajeevvp:
OK. Format that micro SD to contain a single DOS partition; then we'll proceed.
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anary:
Ok. That's done.