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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
It always turns out like this..lmfao. we had a thread just days ago shut down with exact same poll. That poll showed a total of over 80% saying yes, they satisfied with their primes and that they keeping it. WITHOUT A DOUBT, THERE ARE DEFECTIVE UNITS OUT THERE...BUT there's an even greater number out there that isn't and they truly love their prime. Ill admit, its surreal hearing about about people going thru several devices before getting a good one. I must have great luck to have my only 1 unit from Gamestop since 12/22, early batch, n it works great, looks great, display great, and wireless is great(aside from GPS of course..lol but now I learned how to use my phone as an external GPS reciever so I'm good).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
If this poll ends by a large percentage voting yes. I will purchase my 6th prime at the other Bestbuy across town. I too want a PERFECTLY working Prime NOW!! Believe it or not. I'm too embarrased:o to buy another prime at my local gamestop or Bestbuy again. Through my 5 defective Primes, even I can see that the Prime is an amazing device as long as BT,Wifi and BT & WiFi work at the same time minus all the other issues. My last 5 Primes couldn't make it out of my living room 15ft away from my E4200 router.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Actually, I'm no longer surprised by this. It seems that consumer technology products in general suffer from initial build quality issues nowadays. For example, I went through three HP Envy 14 notebooks before getting a good one (bad keyboard lighting, bad DVD drive, broken fan that sounded like a jet aircraft taking off). I went through three Samsung Epic 4G's before getting one where the capacitive buttons all worked. I went through two Motorola Photons until I got one where the haptic feedback worked. All of those were purchased within a month or two of their respective launches.

And, I hate to say, I went through eight (yes, 8) Primes before getting one without a defective component (none of which included relatively weak wifi or GPS). Each and every Prime had something that either didn't work or was defective--and I'm not terribly picky. Two had screens that were atrocious (yellow tint, horrible colors), one had a stuck pixel and excessive light bleed (and I don't consider minimal light bleed to be an actual flaw with IPS screens) along with a bad speaker (broke up at higher volumes), one had an ugly chemical stain on the backplate and a bad speaker, one had a rattle near a docking connector that clearly indicated something broken loose inside, etc., etc.

I think that if you want to avoid getting defective units today, you need to wait a minimum of three months after launch to let the manufacturer work out the kinks. And I think that applies to every manufacturer today, bar none.

That said, my latest Prime is excellent. The other C1 unit I had was also excellent, except it had a clump of dead pixels in a place I couldn't ignore--and with millions of transistors, that kind of thing is bound to happen occasionally. So, I do think that maybe ASUS is close to being able to make a consistent product. It took them longer than I would have liked, certainly...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I feel what you saying n what you went through. Its just so hard to believe 5 primes wifi was that bad. Doesn't make no sense. Tablet is basically useless for online functions if wifi not up to par.

As far as what you said if large percentage vote yes, you might as well head out the door now n get your 6th. One. Prime supporters will be out n full force giving an honest vote.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
I already have 2 C1's on hold at a bestbuy here on the other side of town. After I see a large MAJORITY saying yes, after work I'll drive over there and test them in the store for defects. If these variables pan out to work in Asus's favor, I 'll re-welcome myself as a 6x TF201 owner.:confused:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] benefit14snake:
I am now but had to go through 4. Terrible wifi, really bad light bleed (not just seen on a black screen) and dead pixels plauged my first three but with the c1 I got, all the problems are still there but not noticeable during normal usage.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] westcoastgeek:
I just tried once. Bad gps bad wifi, and no useable wifi/bluetooth. Had bad screen bleed on left side. Took unit back. I'll try in a month.

Btw an 80% good build rate is not anything to brag about. That's pretty horrible. You need in the upper 90,s to have a successful product launch.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Stocki96:
I have only one Prime and everything is great. Wifi is better than on my phone (Xperia Arc), but I haven't tried GPS. And everything else works great :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] frazipe:
No. I had one early launch and it had horrible WiFi with and without using Bluetooth. So, I brought it back to BestBuy. I had none of the other problems I have read about (didn't test GPS since I dont need it). Even ICS seemed to work perfectly. I have another being shipped from BB.com and I'm hoping it's a C1 since it seems like there has been better luck with the newer ones.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
I'm leaving now to go and purchase my 6th prime. It's amazing how many people so far voted here in favor of a fully working Prime when I got 5 lemons in a row. I'm going to upgrade to ICS, right in the store.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
That'll be a smart move. If they let you test out device first before you take it home. Good luck! I hope this is the "One" for you.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
Hard question to qualify

EDIT: Almost forgot. My current Prime is a C1 serial. They are not immune form defect, but they seem to be showing better percentages, if the rhetoric and anecdotal information is to be believed.

You know, it has all the POTENTIAL in the world. But apart from the poor R&D, testing, engineering, choice of materials, assembly, QC,supply chain and delivery woes, inconsistent build quality, etc., etc., etc., it's just freakin' AWESOME!!

I got luck, pretty much in #2 unit I got... It says VERY LITTLE for a company and it's product when buying one is a game of Russian roulette. Not that bad when you actually CAN exchange it and try, try again. But what about everyone for the first 5-6 weeks, when there WAS NO STOCK TO EXCHANGE IT FOR? You either a)gave it up, and had nothing (at least for a while), b) kept it with all it's foibles, or c) returned it and waited till stocks picked up to try again.

It does concern me that while Best Buy appears to be increasing it's stock levels, Amazon is STILL not showing that they have any intention of making this product available. I am not able to discern what this means precisely, but that, on top of all the previews of new tablets Asus is possibly releasing it gives me a bad feeling. A really bad feeling. oh... but yes. I love my Prime... REALLY, NO **** :D

Depends on your definition of a "Lemon" If you are expecting perfection (or "Persistent Perfection" LOL) you won't be getting it anytime soon with Asus. The TF101 was awesome, and just as inconsistent, though not as riddled with issues. I had 3 of them in my search for a good one, (and I think 4 keyboards) In the end, I STILL never got a Keyboard and tablet that had matching metalic finish. I am not sure if thatwas supply side,, or if they built them at multiple plant locations, but they were inconsistent as hell.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thomslik:
And I thought Apple fanboys were bad! lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Mine is from Amazon. Had it for all of four days lol guessing you're out of the US or have the dock on order with it?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] spencerj2001:
Yes I am completely satisfied.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Not at all!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Make that 6 defective Primes with Out of the Box problems. The manager is making me purchase them before I open them....lame.

I'm on Prime number 7. Downloading ICS update....both Primes can barely reach the wifi. The TF101, A100, A500, iPad 2 and GT 10.1 reach it with no problem.

Prime 7 has serious light bleed, broken light sensor, kernel panic FCs, weak wifi and BT doesnt work at the same time. This is ridiculous! They are calling over to the other store. they have one. It's the last one in town.

I should be able to vote no 7 times.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Maybe on Prime 20 youll hit the "one." The good thing is that your 14 day window starts all over again, bad thing is your credit card takes a few days for it to return. Did you notice which batch was the 6 and 7?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Prime 8(BC) has to be the one because it's the last one in town. Prime 6 & 7 were C1's.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Damn..maybe the TF201 is not for you. I gave up on prime 3 and that was enough for me. With a positive note.. thats a few primes that you saved the hassle for the potentially poor souls that would have ended up with those.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
I have 45 days to return. I'm a Premiere Silver Rewards Member 4 years+

I'm almost at my local bestbuy. They are gonna laugh their asses of when they see me go through this Prime **** again. I currently have a red flag against my DL for obsessive returns at bestbuy mostly do to defective Primes. I explained this to customer relations and the block should be removed tomorrow.

Alright I'm in the parking lot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Hahaha. I was wondering how many strikes does it take for them to flag you. I was on 3 and I stopped and cancelled my 4th, cause I didnt want to get banned from returns. Hehehe. They must be like, " you havent learned your lesson on the last 8 primes..."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Ah man...lmfao you a trip...damn...I really wish you could find one that works good..this is unbelievable...maybe your whole city or state got a bad batch...SMH. this next one just hold on to it....Asus about to make some kind of announcement in a day or so. Rumored to be new motherboard installed that improves wifi dramatically. Probably will be some kind of exchange program. No need to keep switching anymore. Hopefully last switch will be with Asus themselves.

I truly commend you on your efforts. I CAN TELL you really like the prime but just want a unit that fits your standards. Asus is making this hard for you..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
You egged him on to get another one for a sixth one :D, and now hes on his 8. Maybe wait next month... to try again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Hey..he said he would based on the votes. The votes spoke. But his situation is crazy though. Another member,wyand, said he had to get 8 before he finally got the perfect one he wanted. Just so weird how some people have to go thru so many. I'm on my 1 prime from Gamestop since 12/22 n its been working great. People shouldn't have to go thru so many units. I have a feeling though Asus finally has a fix with this new announcement n a day or so.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
But it doesnt mean the current batches in store/warehouse will be fixed, and it will only fix software issues if it does but wont do anything if its hardware related problems.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
No, the word is there's a new motherboard out that improves wifi dramitically. I think this will be Asus announcement. Someone got an Roman email stating this. So more than likely there will be an exchange program or send in unit to have motherboard replaced if they just don't switch it out for a new unit. Looks promising. So hardware is getting fixed if this holds true.

Look at Gary's BT/wifi sticky thread. Its in his update and latest posts.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
They make a ton of motherboards (PCBs) so that in and of itself wouldn't seem to be the issue. The Wi-Fi chip they're using is from AzureWare which I've never heard of so that's a possible issue. The best fix would be to reposition the antennas to simplify their routing and lose the pogo pins. I don't know if that's possible when the antennas need to reach the front of the glass display.

Regardless, if they do step up and change the design and protect early purchasers they'll go from villain to hero overnight and all this back-and-forth bickering over issues can be put to bed. Companies make mistakes but those that own up to them and make people whole are almost always forgiven.

P.S. – You realize this totally refutes your comments about Asus unfairly being accused of lying when they said in the UK that they “were unaware of any problems.” You can’t fix something you’re “unaware” of. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
You funny..lol. that was that thread. This is this thread ;) anyways lets see what Asus is going to do. Its supposed to be something big and will probably be a 1 2 combo of hardware change and big firmware update. We still due for update anyday now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
**** this ****!!! The 8th Prime won't even turn on!! It just vibrates. I've tried everything pin hold reset, hold power and volume down. It's been charging for awhile now. Any suggestions???Please Hurry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the last one!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Are you sure its a prime and not a vibrator :D? its probably low on charge... youll have to wait for it to charge enough to power up.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Battery is more than likely really dead. A bunch of others had same issue. Let it charge for a least a few hours. Asus says 8 but I don't think it needs to be that long. You literally just got it so it couldn't of been charging for long. I don't know why they send out units with dead batteries.

If it don't power up after a few hours n still only vibrates, then that means device was probably dropped. Lost connection to display. Just let it get a really good charge. Sometimes the very dead batteries need it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
All my Primes came with a dead battery. Plugging them in was enough to turn them on. I haven't bought it yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
My second one was like that vibrating with each push of the power button and it took 15-30 mins till it lit up and booted and I saw 3 seperate light bleeds.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] acidus.:
Does that mean you'll be voting as unsatisfied?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
This has been plugged in for almost 30 minutes. Now I'm gathering a crowd of employees. :o

Everyone here has heard about bad Primes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
If what Demandarin just said is true, you can put down the bazooka and just wait. After all Asus has been through I seriously doubt the "fix" won't work. If they do come out with a huge mea culpa though it's a pretty big deal. Any inventory at resellers needs to be shipped back and they have to come up with some sort of exchange program for existing owners. They may have been working on this for a while which would explain the dribs and drabs of inventory resellers have been receiving so there's less to be shipped back. Putting all the pieces together could take some time though so it won't be an overnight miracle. This forum isn't known for its patience so the new battle cry will be "Asus, what's taking so long?" ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
This one might just be really dead..lol needs a good charge is all. Once it powers up, you might be in for a nice surprise.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Hahaha... you must be in the west coast its already 11:30 pm here. you should get the crowd of employees to pray with you so you wont have to bug them anymore with future prime returns.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I can see it now. Once the prime finally powers up n cut on, The whole store will break out in applause..lmfao. op should record this ordeal n upload it. Would love to see the crowd just waiting. Lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Something like that lol...most people don't believe me when I tell them where I'm at.

Bestbuy closes in 1 1/2 hours.

I may be in for a 100.00 gift certificate for all of my troubles. I brought my receipts that shows most of my exchanges/returns. 2 were from Gamestop.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ugotproblemz:
Everything is working fine for me except GPS (very poor) and weak wifi (about 10-15dbm weaker) but as long as i can still connect to my campus network its fine...so im somewhat satisfy...meaning i know it can be better lols but i can live with it
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
I'm done!! This **** wont even vibrate anymore. It does make a faint pop sound now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
No Asus logo yet? It should have come on by now if your past the 30min mark.

---------- Post added at 11:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:39 PM ----------

Maybe those are capacitors popping... Sorry bro.. doesnt look good.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Nope! Their boxing that PoS back up. I'm having them page the manager that briefly mentioned a gift card and took off. I've probably spent 50.00 in gas on the Prime:mad: That's 3 defective Primes in 1 night. I'm so burnt out on reading about all these good Primes and I'm going 8 for 8 on bad Primes. Every Prime from Bestbuy that I opened except the 8th Prime, has Perfect GPS. It even works from within the store. I don't even care about gps!!! All I want is good WiFi and BT at the same time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
We just lost one....Noooooooooo! Lol. Damn bro...its Asus loss. You were dedicated. Just wait it out. We'LLC be here ;) I got a feeling this ain't the last we've seen of you. I'd pm Gary all of thisbif I were you. You have all proof n reciepts. He might just pull some strings to get you a guareenteed new working unit. Its worth a shot. You got nothing to loose by trying.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Nah.. Just wait till Asus fixes the mess they made.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] geeheeber:
my prime has been awesome. no wifi issues, and gps works but thinks I'm about 20' off the road. i do have to reboot every two days or so because networking slows down or stops. it reboots fast.

after two weeks of using this docked i have been touching the laptop screens at work (gov't IT work) because its so intuitive. its not perfect, but its by far my favorite computer ive owned.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
My 8th Prime is not on record because they let me open it w/o purchasing. I won't bother Gary with this. He has bigger fish to fry.:(

If he can fix BT & WiFi together plus extend the range, I'll be back in business, once Bestbuy get's more units. They have 3 on the truck as we speak.<< Whatever that means.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Hey OP, Skygunner. I just wrote Gary a detailed summary of this b.s. you had to go through. I also linked him to this thread. I told him you are the type of customer Asus doesn't want to loose based on your determination alone to get a good working Prime/product. Asked him if there's anything he can do to help you out. I said you said you have proof of reciepts n all that. I really think you should PM him also. I think once he takes a look at all this, he might be able to do something for you. Its worth a shot n for some reason, I got a feeling he can make something happen. Its just a hunch. If Asus is smart, they'll help you out. You a very dedicated consumer. Pm him asap.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
That means there is 3 primes for you to open up and test when the best buy truck arrives.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Too late...I had already wrote him...read my post. You deserve him addressing your issue. Bigger fish to fry don't matter. That's how Asus got in this mess in first place..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Can you get Gary to have me beta test the TF700, I really want to see what that puppy can do. Maybe he can convert me back to a Prime believer... well a TF700 believer.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Yeeehaaa!!!!

100.00 Gift Card!! I feel kind of bad because it wasn't Bestbuy's fault. Oh well!! Somebody's got to pay for gas.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
Damn nice... now your tablet is 100 dollars cheaper.. or if you wait you can get the TF700T and only have to fork up what you paid for the TF201 and little more for tax.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
I appreciate everyone's support. I do have 7 receipts. 2 of those from Gamestop. To be honest I am so burned out on this experience. I really wanna just give up...and see down the road if the TF700t can be released with less problems.

I know this may sound ridiculous but in my pursuit to find a good Prime this experience really has taken a toll on my family, myself and my daily routine. I've decided to wash my hands of this until the TF700t is closer to release.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Thankfully where I live we have no sales tax.

I just got a call from my friend that works at Bestbuy. He told me it finally turned on!!! lol. He said it's not seeing the hotspots that they have in the store.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] junrider:
you must be from oregon or alaska.... I have to drive 1.5 hours to get myself some tax free items usually not worth the gas.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
lol....bingo!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scsurface1:
Yes, VERY satisfied. My first and ONLY Prime. Everything works great that I need, including the dock (from which I am typing flawlessly from). GPS doesn't work, but that is OK with me because I have my phone and nav in the car. Honestly dont know why any tablets would have this. If you are savvy enough to have a tablet, you probably already have a phone that has GPS. I can honestly say I have never seen anyone carrying around a tablet for directions.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scsurface1:
You probably just need to bite the bullet and go get an Ipad
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
I already have an iPad 2.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TheMrRoxtar:
May i ask how do you see if ur tablet has bleeding issues? Just bought this and now I'm scared I have a bad one? Have a BC serial #
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
For how bright these screens can go, I would expect them to have some amount of backlight bleeding. If screen bleeding is the only thing wrong with your Prime and you don't know if you have it or not, don't look for it. You have a good Prime. Leave it at that, be glad and enjoy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TheMrRoxtar:
Well i really really appreciate people like you. So thank you. But after reading this thread and digging around i think I've gotta know. Sigh* took me weeks to find someone that had this available. When i did i bought everything for it. Warranty, casing, keyboard dock, screen protector, spent alot of money. My wife hated the idea, said to go with the iPad.i assured her this was ten times better, but I'm just not sure anymore.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
What's making you second guess your purchase? I hope it's not me.

Here is an example of horrible backlight bleeding. Out of all the Primes I've seen/had I have never seen bleeding that bad.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1483834
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I have what I consider minimal, acceptable light bleed for such a display. Not noticeable in most normal situations, with the exception of (you guessed it) overly simple, dark images in the offending areas. Still not bad.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1479664