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[Nokia Lumia 800] whitealien:
Completely agree with ^^

I was active Android ROM builder, tester, themer etc for more than 2 years., but I think I just got tired of endless battle with force closes and laags. The biggest problem with android is that it does not run on native code but on interpreted layer dalvikvm. You can try as hard as you want, but you will always need double horse power for the same tasks on other platforms.

That's also explains why WP7 is perfectly smooth with x2 less CPU and RAM while latest Google flagship with nearly desktop PC power suffers laagspikes here and there. While those small laag spikes are less visible on smartphones things are just getting worse with tablets. Today there is no tablet running Android which can render UI transitions with 60fps.

You can read a blog from ex Google employee about that.

How about some Android graphics true facts?
[Nokia Lumia 800] norocel:
I agree with you guys,after using android from G1,htc hero,desire S,nexus one,sg1 and 2,galaxy nexus,lg optimus black and apple 4 and 3gs with all the cusotm roms and modifications none of them stand above wp7 smoothness. I can say i never had a lag on my phone ever,where android and ios would lag here and there. Again e-mail aplication is just a joy to use,and all the animation how they smooth transit...it never stops to impress me. Ofcourse it has some shortcomings but definatelly will get better,especially with nokia's help.Aplication wise,well i don't use that many apps but the one i used definatelly looked better than android and apple,it's like the have more soul and not look so dull and borring.

At first i did not like the idea Nokia refused android but now i see that they done the right decision,i see it no better.
[Nokia Lumia 800] BlitterTwisted:
Well said. I had got used to the lag and didn't realise how bad it was until I got the Lumia.

I got sick of flashing ROMS too. CM7 was nice and stable, but when ICS roms came out I got sucked in. The gapps are all facelifted and are a lot nicer than Gingerbread. But then the ICS roms all have their issues and it just gets annoying.
[Nokia Lumia 800] net.lander:
I would like android on lumia. I got it free trade with my old unuse 9 year old phone from Microsoft. Willing to trade with any working android 4g tmobile phone in great condition. Lumia 710 is brand new unboxed.
[Nokia Lumia 800] :
You guys can hate Android all you want, but there's absolutely no reason to NOT port Android if it's possible.

Yes, you can say it's **** and all that, but wouldn't it be nice with a few extra games? Wouldn't it be nice with more choice and options? No one would force you to use Android, even if it somehow got ported.

Don't misunderstand, I highly prefer WP7 over Android, but if I could have both on one device I would be a happy man.
[Nokia Lumia 800] jhughesy:
Android would run like poop on a Lumia.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
I agree that Android would run poorly on WP hardware.

Also, I find your last poll option offensive.
[Nokia Lumia 800] hawc1506:
Android didn't perform too badly on the HD2, and the Lumia 800 has better specs. I think it could be on par, if not better than the HD2 in terms of performance.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
Touche'

From the other side of Lake Washington
[Nokia Lumia 800] vnvman:
Also, it seems like ICS is running decently on the N9 already, and that hardware is probably even worse (cortex a8 and sgx535 if I remember well). I'm kinda tempted to get a used one off ebay or something just to give it a shot :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] GeBoe:
No

No, it wouldn't "run like poop", because lumia hardware is quite similar to SAMSUNG Galaxy S Plus hardware.
[Nokia Lumia 800] hawc1506:
Ahh actually same side now because I'm at UW :p

I'm really tempted to get an N9 as well. I just love that standby clock. Knowing that it has better hardware than my HD2, I'm sure it'll at least run just as well if not better with enough development.
[Nokia Lumia 800] neelgangrade:
i am up for developing android port on nokia lumia ! will contact other members on HTC HD2 forum !

:cool:
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
We're neighbors! I'm a block away from Madison Park Beach. Love it over here.

Oh, the N9 standby clock is sexy. I hope that MSFT will get us a good standby clock. That would be happy, indeed.
[Nokia Lumia 800] GeBoe:
That's what I want to hear!!! Good luck!!!

Sent from my Windows Phone 7.5 using Board Express
[Nokia Lumia 800] darks1der:
If can help in anyway let me know. I only started developing my own roms. but i'm looking forward to see if it can be done.

It would be nice to have a choice between WP7.5 and ICS
[Nokia Lumia 800] biktor_gj:
I don't know, maybe we like the challenge :)

More than Android I'd like to get Mozilla's Boot2Gecko, but first all the important stuff need to be sorted out. But I have to say that was my goal when I got the lumia in the first place...

Time will tell if it can be done or if it's not worth it though
[Nokia Lumia 800] boudhayan:
If you want android badly why dont you buy one?FYI dont think it is possible as of now.
[Nokia Lumia 800] biktor_gj:
Because I already have a galaxy2, and a N900, and I like the form factor of the lumia and its faster than a N9. And I know its not possible yet, thats why we are working on it, and as I said, I like the challenge :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] dr1337:
If you guys can get me access to the boot loader to boot a linux kernel, I will build you a Android ROM.

I built the first ICS port to the Nexus One.
[Nokia Lumia 800] darks1der:
Sounds good. I'm willing to offer up my device for testing
[Nokia Lumia 800] epdm2be:
1) absolutely NOT. It looks completely different and is far less restricted.

2) what do you expect from a sandboxed Java-based OS on a linux-kernel? Compare Android to Harmattan to see how a real linux based OS can fly (or Bada for that matter).

3) And so do you with your single tasking single core Windows Phone or me with my multitasking single core Symbian device. Why? Because in the western world the largest part of electricity is produced by nuclear powerplants.

4) You have a point there. But UI consistency is also in another very crippled phone-OS from that fruity-company. So in that respect WP is actually a copy of iOS.

5) most o/t update problems are due to carriers not to Google corp. This is less troublesome on closed systems like iOS or WP or, as a matter of fact, even Symbian (though carriers still are a barrier though)

6) No you see it all wrong. First what is the definition of 'Open'? Open to the consumer or open to carriers/handsetmakers? Android is NOT open to consumers just as iOS, WP, Symbian, Bada or any other phone-OS is closed to end-users. All systems use different means to lock users out of tampering with devices (singing apps, jail, root etc...). The difference is that Android is open to carriers unlike iOS or WP or Symbian (for that matter). So they can add, change or modify (some) parts if they see fit. Don't let the propaganda fool you into thinking that Android is "open". Sure, some handset makers are removing the root-restrictions but this is to help app-developpers not for consumers to tamper with these devices (Read the included license agreements closely when you apply these official unrooting-procedures).

Cheers
[Nokia Lumia 800] tai4de2:
Go away. Android can't run on the Lumia and I hope it never can. That's right, I said it: CHOICE IS BAD! You should not have the choice to run Android on a Lumia.

Neener neener neener!
[Nokia Lumia 800] eldenst:
It´s no reason not to bring android to a windows phone just because YOU don´t want that.

I think Android will run very soon on the lumia the only problem is the acces to bootloader. And that is not just a problem for android, it´s a problem to unlock WP7 too, a lot of people are working to break that.

I bought the lumia 800 not because i liked WP7, i bought it because it looks awesome, there is no android device that can beat this design.

And because the lumia is very cheap (Why? I think you know :confused: )

I hate WP7 because everything is closed! (no bluetooth, i can´t send my music via mail, ... and 1000 other reasons)

I´m happy to see the lumia 800 in China because i hope that will speed up the guys at DFT

Android is not perfect but i like it! I want to customize my phone and i know a lot of guys who like that too. There are reasons why a lot of people buy Android Phones.

So stop telling that you don´t want Android that´s no reason for not bringing that to WP7

but It´s a reason, that a lot of guys want it.

look at the Poll Results:

yes - would be nice ---32 + Would be freaking awesome !! ---24 = 56 :D

vs.

no - WP7 FTW ---43 = 43 :mad:

I am not alone :p
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
As much as I have no interest in experiencing Android on my Lumia, I completely agree with you. The Lumia 800 design is second to none and ANY operating system would be honored to work inside that sexy chassis.

Have you been following the bootloader thread in the dev forum? It may be a possibility for some.
[Nokia Lumia 800] vnvman:
Speaking out of....?
[Nokia Lumia 800] biktor_gj:
Trolls never cease to amaze me :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] darksenik:
hello this topic can be help you http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24571235

I hope the rom android will be possible :) sorry for my bad english because im french
[Nokia Lumia 800] tai4de2:
The only people trolling are the ones coming into the WP forums trolling for ways to infect their WP handsets with Android.
[Nokia Lumia 800] asmanthebell:
Android on a phone is bad, tablets it runs well, but on phones WP7 hands down beats android.

And iOS is just old hat same old system just doesn't flow any more.

As I can see the 50,000+ contest pitting WP7 against all others and WP7 winning 99.8% of the time of proves a hell of a lot!!

Plus lumia's get 5* star ratings compared to other phone and OS's so that shows why bother with crapdroid?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Apotheosys:
You don't know Maclaw XD

Anyway, when I got CM9 on my Ace I forgot force closes and lags, so just think stock firmware is bloatware ;)
[Nokia Lumia 800] skypeople:
:|

here's a simple one for you : I NEED A VPN CONNECTION ANY SUGGESTION ON HOW DO SO IN WP ?
[Nokia Lumia 800] abrox96:
If you want android, there are several other phones in the market..

I don't think it is possible to run the android environment in the lumias...

I have used iphone 4s, and also gs2..

but lumia is my personal favourite..

you wont get the premium quality of nokia lumia in any other phone in the market...

.

But there are a few features of android that I would like in my lumia 710....

such as:

1. Google Voice

2. Little more customization

3. bt file transfer completely integrated into the os
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kkira13:
I finally found a perfect ROM for my needs but I'm experiencing a few problems.

1. When syncing live feed on facebook for HTC sense, it just syncs forever. Really annoying, especially when auto-sync is enabled. I tried just turning live feed sync off, but it turned itself back on o_O

2. Get soft reboots sometimes, with no specific reason.

3. Sometimes the statusbar image shifts 7-8 pixels to the right, leaving uncovered space on top left, reboot fixes it, but still, annoying.

4. On the messaging app, when I close the physical keyboard without leaving the conversation page, it leads to reloading of my homescreen and sometimes leads to bug, when launcher bar is on the wrong orientation. (this problem might be caused by the sense 3 lockscreen mod, it said somewhere that it modifies the messaging app)

5. How can I reduce the amount of my homescreens ? I use only 3 and I heard that it helps to free RAM

6. How can I format my partitions into ext4 ?

7. I heard of v6 supercharger script, can anyone help me with a step-to-step guide of how can I setup that and how will I benefit.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeinashed:
Been using this Rom for ages now and don't get these problems. Also, you shouldn't really need super charge to make it fast and smooth. Have you tried wiping and flashing again?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kkira13:
I just did, let's see if it solves problems 2-4, number 1 is still there.

It is smooth but if the supercharger is going make it even better, why not ? Also I heard it extends battery life which is always good.

And I think I figured out the reason of live feed problem, I usually remove the friendstream stuff, and I think that may cause the trouble.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Athrun88:
1. I usually remove alot of apps and widgets that I don't use when on a Sense ROM. I found that getting rid of FB Chat makes this issue occur. Removing FriendStream widget might also do this too. Try restoring each app one at a time to pinpoint which one is causing the issue.

5. As far as i know, you can't reduce the number of homescreens on a Sense ROM unless the dev has made tweaks

6. Flash either 4EXT Recovery and change the partitions to ext4. Doing this does NOT erase any information on your partitions. Or you can grab SuperwipeG2+ext4 and this will format your phone to a clean slate and format the partitions to ext4 when when using CWM. This WILL erase everything on your phone.

7. I don't use supercharger, so I can't help you there.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shortlived:
I find when I oc too much I have gotten random reboots. Maybe lower oc a touch?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kkira13:
Athrun88 thank you, great response. For 1 and 5 I came to same conclusions and you proved that I assumed right.

for 6 (ext partiotions) can you explain me how will I benefit from doing that ?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kkira13:
shortlived I didn't do any oc but I think it comes oc-ed so I'll try to lower CPU freq, thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qjbj90:
I do this when I use this rom:

Full wipe (system,data,cache,dalvik cache)

Flash rom

Flash unityv9 kernel

Mmsfix.zip

Once it boots I install oc/uvbeater2.apk (search google)

I set screen on profile to 1209/245 ondemand & screen off 500ish to lowest setting conservative

Then with 4ext recovery I set up a swap partition of 512mb

After that I run swap_enabler.sh (search google)

Sounds like a lot but it eliminated all my memory issues and laginess. No launcher restarts, performance/battery hits, or usability. As for v6 supercharger, I had nothing but problems, probably cause I never read everything
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qjbj90:
Oh and statusbar... I just swipe up and down on it. Then it returns to normal. I still get that but not a deal breaker
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luna_c666:
I just got my mytouch4G from a member on here, immediately loaded the newest CWM touch onto it and then downloaded feb's newest Creamed Glacier test ROM, and every time I start my phone it says 'Process com.samsung.syncservice has stopped unexpectedly.' when it boots up..there was also a failed process for 'verizon sign-in' or something that I didn't get to read because as fate would have it it popped up as I was backing out of an application and it flashed on the screen before I could stop my finger it was gone..

I have a Samsung Epic, and it is possible that some of the files from that got picked up while doing a titanium backup (??) restore because I use the SD card in multiple android devices, so there is no doubt some crossover in the generic folders created on the card..I'm just wondering if anyone else is getting this and if not, where is this 'com.samsung.syncservice' apk located so I can delete it?

If not, I'll just reflash the ROM and see if that helps, but I'd rather just delete that process from my system so if it happens again I know what to do without having to restore a nand.

And quickly, what do you guys prefer to OC to? My Epic maxes out at 1500, and is stable only up to about 1300 on CM9 (currently at 1200mhz to be safe), but it seems to be running smoother with less lag than the mytouch which is clocked MUCH higher (1600-1700mhz), although the governor I use on my Epic is not available on this kernel (lagfree). Any feedback would be appreciated, I don't want to fry my CPU while trying to remedy the lag if it can't be remedied..what settings are you using (speed/gov)? THANKS!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
Whaaaa? Samsung? Verizon? That's crazy talk right there. I ran one of the test builds the other day and didn't see either. Sounds like somebody tried to port something from a verizon phone and the files are hanging out on the system partition. Did you wipe it before flashing?

Also, most Mytouch 4G's will run all day at 1500. Battery life will take a hit though. Smartass and, if you have the option, Darkside are great governors.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luna_c666:
Yes I did full wipe in CWM, manually factory/cache/dalvik, and then installed the ROM, flashed gapps, updated the kernel to the 'suggested' kernel n feb's thread (darkside I believe?) and rebooted..

I am pretty sure that it showed the process on reboot, though not sure if it did on first reboot or if it made it's first appearance when I did a titanium restore (it froze while the second app was restoring and did a soft reboot, I think that might have been when I first saw it after that reboot)- but the only apps I restored were mostly ones I had dl'd on the glacer- I did use my backup for setcpu and installed a swype-beta backup, but I am fairly certain that those backups came from my Asus Transformer not from the Samsung (the swype beta is what tells me this as samsung comes with swype stock thus would have never had a swype beta installed/backed up). And I didn't install data, as far as I know...or, maybe I did, let me go check...

I know..making me scratch my head too.

EDIT: Going to go back into titanium backup and just wipe the data/cache for the apps that I installed and reboot, if it still comes up it was in one of the flashed files IMO

EDIT2: Wiped, still came up- now to try a factory reset and see if it is still there, and then if it is I guess I'll reflash again and try it one at a time until I figure out what caused it. I'll be back with an answer I guess..lol
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luna_c666:
After factory reset, items still there, 'failed verizon login' and 'com.samsung.syncservice process' both popping up after reboot. :/ time to take it one flash at a time..this will be fun :confused:

Ok, well then...complete wipe, factory and all, installed ONLY the creamed glacier test ROM and both processes still prompted.

I guess I'll try another ROM (??) though I still don't see why that would be doing this..if others haven't experienced it as well..report back soon with results from another ROM (try something that feb did not cook up)
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aznprodgy:
you could always use root explorer to pinpoint the files and manually delete them. I have my phone OC @ 1024/245 superbad, sleep @ 368/245 powersave and never had any lag issues at all. I can even run at 768 superbad with minimal lag
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luna_c666:
I tried to find the files with root explorer, I found the data/data/com.samsung.syncservice folder and deleted it, but something else in the boot initialization (maybe actually in the init.d file? No couldn't be..) is still trying to run those processes..they aren't in the system/apps or system/bin folder, I don't know where to look and search did not locate them :confused:

Any ideas where they might be? Still not flashed another ROM, downloading ..

After factory reset..
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aznprodgy:
try looking in system/framework or system/etc/permissions. if you cant find it in there, try to flash another ROM to see if your problem still persists. if it does, my best advice would be to re-format your SD card
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luna_c666:
So you're saying there is a possibility of rogue files on the SD card causing the problem? I'll yank the card and reboot as soon as these ROMs get done downloading (yes, they have been en route since my last post- apparently the virtuous unity ROM is on a VEEERRRYY slow server... :( )

I'm guessing that if I flash a new ROM, yank the card and on reboot still get the issue, well, that can't be possible we'll cross that bridge in a moment ;)

It has to be something to do with that or the gapps that I flashed, which doesn't make sense because it was an official package from february that wasn't device-specific.......... :confused:

I'm a total noob with this phone, it seems to be behaving differently than any of the phones I've dealt with thus far (HTC HD7 and Thunderbolt, Moto Atrix, Moto Droid2, Samsung Epic, ZTE Blade, Asus Transformer). Oh well, learning curve ahead..

EDIT: I found some (should have searched for ' *samsung* ' ) in data/user/0/com.samsung~ and others in data/data/com.sams~, all the processes were missing from the folders except there were some samsung folders that were not labeled 'syncservce' that contained some xml files, so I deleted every folder with 'samsung' in the name (not sure how those got onto the internal memory, these folders should not have been created when installing apps from titanium backup imo)

Now searching for ' *verizon* ' to see what that yields. I'll update here in a bit..

EDIT 2: Yep, found some verizon SSO files in my DALVIK CACHE and my System folder root (WTF!?)..I've been reading about Stuxnet over the past few days, things like this make me a might nervous! ;)

Thanks guys..

EDIT WTF!? (3): So, after deleting those files, I got the verizon prompt to go away..but still having the com.samsung.syncservice process coming up after reboot, now to try and reflash the ROM..I think I'll try to wipe and flash the same ROM over, and if it persists I'll flash these ROMs;

Darkside CM7.2

Virtuous Unity (latest released and previous version)

Creamed Sense

Those are all I'm going to mess with right now, because there are WAY too many ROMs for this phone!!

@#$%^&*!!! (4): WIPE EVERYTHING, CLEAN INSTALL, DARKSIDE ROM, PROCESS STILL PROMPTING!! Now...NOW..I'm getting upset..
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aznprodgy:
whoops well enjoy the free thanks lol meant to hit the quote button :) glad you got your issue fixed(hopefully). now flash to your hearts content! also, the MT4G isnt that much different from the Thunderbolt other than bigger screen/no hardware buttons, so not too much of a learning curve
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luna_c666:
Issue did not get fixed, I just restored a nandroid so we'll see if that fixed it- so far however, nothing seems to be ridding the phone of the errant samsung sync process...verizon is gone though!

Nandroid seemed to have fixed the issue (at least haven't seen the popup yet..) so I'm going to see if I can flash the same ROM again, no titanium backup and no extra apps- to see if that causes it, then I will know it is something in the ROM file..or something I did afterwards (still want to recreate my steps completely and see if I can replicate the problem and figure out what happened to begin with).

I've always used the same SD card when flashing devices, though the files get backed up on the PC and edited from time to time..so if this happened once I want to prevent it from happening again, though it would be a real pain to have to wipe my "ROM flash" card between every device.

As before, will keep it up to date and post the solution (and cause if I can determine it) for progeny.

(BTW, I also live in GA..)