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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Oneiricl:
Everyone saying Kies sucks... you all are talking about regular plugged-in-Kies, right?

Not Kies Air?

Cos Kies Air is brilliant.

iOS sucks when it comes to configurability or compatibility or anything that involves changing it or modifying it to your preferences.

While my brother was in town for a training program, he got a new iPad 2 for use at the office. Since he's based in another city, he had no internet connection (to download iTunes) and couldn't load anything on the damn thing...

Contrast that to my Note: I could transfer movies to it from the laptop right out of the box.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] zkyevolved:
While I respect your right to say this, I certainly disagree. I've had the iphones, all of them except for the 4s because I dont want to buy the same phone AGAIN (iphone 4 with 600 more mhz).

I love the Note. fantastic device. Kies sucks, but iTunes is worse. Apps? Yeah, iPhone is better, but I do A LOT more with the apps on my note than on the iphone. Thats FOR SURE. Productivity is WAY BETTER on the Note than on an iCrap.

Yes, iPhones are easier to use. My mom doesn't know how to copy and paste on a PC and she uses Whatsapp on your Motorola Flipout daily, and checks her email,and uses google maps to find out where she is if she's lost walking around downtown Madrid. BTW did I mention she can't copy and paste on a PC? Lol.

If the Note is too difficult to use, I HIGHLY and STRONGLY recommend iPhoning back to the iPhone. It's simple, easy and ... very closed ;). Multitasking drove me crazy on it, and the tiny screen.

Is it a good phone? Yeah!

Is it good for everyone? No!

Is it good for me? No!

Is the note perfect for me? YES!

Should you go back to the IPhone? YES! PLEASE!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ngocdao:
idk... this is like my 7th android phone.. and i always went back and forward to iphone and this and although there are flaws.. the freedom is very much more refreshing, and i'm never going back to that 3.5 inch screen.

fyi, i run the whole phone stock, and still satisfied. things i miss about my iphone can easily be replaced with an ipod touch.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] iceangel1980:
don't people read BEFORE buying stuff? it doesn't hurt, really... and it can safe a huge amount of frustration and disappointment.

my friends got their toy iphones, when it comes to normal work on phone, showing off or productivity and customization samsung with android works every damn time. ok so there is few better looking apps for ios, but any developer in their sane mind gonna make android version, cause this is system choosen by more ppl every day

I have huge respect for Steve Jobs and all his work and invention, but closing ios was a mistake in my opinion, android id not like linux vs windows problem. Android is userfriendly for most intelligent ppl, hell my 60 year old parents are using android phones and have a tons of fun with it.

OP, read, root your phone and have fun or just go back to Apple stables, no other way around
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mancuk29:
The note doesnt have a tegra chip in so how do you get the games to download ive downdloaded the tegra app ans it satsys non tegra phone detected?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hagba:
Not for sale,Look somewhere else to buy it.

Waiting for ICS if it doesnt work will wait for a proper custom ROM,
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jetv1r:
you can download Chainfire 3D from the market..install the tegra pluggin and your good to play tegra games...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sooyong94:
Emmm... You need to root it first. ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Seriously guys? Come on...

Whoever started this post must be laughing their @$$ off right now. I mean, they haven't made a single attempt to respond to any of us (unless I just totally missed something), so obviously they are a troll. Why do we persist in giving them the attention they want? If ever you see a poster who is obviously trolling, just ignore them and move on...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Man_Cave_Tech:
iPhones are so simple, a caveman could use one. Android devices on the other hand, have a slight learning curve, but once you figure it out, it's nothing but love from that point on.

Not to start another "apple vs the world" debate, but your comment: "and are very poor copies of iphone apps"...why do iphone owners think everything is copied from apple? Developers release multi-platform apps, therefore nothing is "copied".

"can't believe Android does so well"...Conversely, I can't believe with all the iPhone hype, they have the smallest market share in the industry. Just sayin...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeromepearce:
class!

Class, mate, class!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
He's trolling!!! Stop posting responses!!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Alexanderbooth:
that's a very interesting post, android is very different to ios, so it takes time to get used to it, people don't really realise mostt android phones actually have more features and apps out of the box than ios does. But people always say you have to customize android more, when in reality you don't. Most people who slate android for reasons like you never get updates or you hae to customise it are generally the ones who are a bit more tech savvy, and would find it relatively easy to root and change rom, the people who buy a phone and just ue it out of the box, arent bothered about updates and customising, why do these more techy savvy people slate android for the very reason most tech savvy people like it more because if you want it to be its very hands on. Like you said you can't judge something that's you've used for a month, few weeks based on something you've used for years. When I upgraded from xp to windows 7 the first for weeks I was like not sure if I like this because I couldn't figure out where stuff was, but in the enf windows seven is miles better than xp ever was. I for one thing when I got my android phone I thought it had way more features than my iphones ever did, that was before I started to get involved in the android ecosystem. And I thought android was equally as good as ios out of the box. Then after a while I discovered the reason I now love android because, if there's something I don't like I just change it to something I do, and most of the time it really is that simple.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeromepearce:
Stay in the 'approved' padded areas with mummy

My mother has an iPhone. I suggested she get it when she wanted to get a good phone. Why? Well, she is 80. An Android phone would be a complete waste on her.

Me? I am pushing on for 50 now (Oh, god, really? Arrgh!), and I like to play. I like to tinker. My first computer had 64K (Spectrum 64), and that was a blast after seeing the previous ones like the ZX80. I had that modded to the max, analogue joystick, full keyboard, micro-drive (actually, 2 in series), the lot. My first hard disk was 20 MB, and I was almost unable to fill it.

Android lets me play!

If you don't want to play, don't come to the rough boys playground. Stay in the 'approved' padded areas with mummy.

---------- Post added at 01:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:08 PM ----------

Cripes!

I just realised I am nearly 50, and I'm still a kid. I seriously hope I never, ever grow up!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] zkyevolved:
As long as you get your bills paid, and with your extra cash do what you please. There's nothing wrong with buying, playing, hacking, or modding..... as long as you get your important stuff done (rent, mortgage, food, work, etc.) So enjoy! :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Man_Cave_Tech:
@Jerome: My first computer was an Apple IIe!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] honf:
:confused:

I did that, now I have an iPad 2. How do I undo the procedure?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] alias3800:
Mine's arriving as we speak! I'm typing this from my 4S - cant wait to make the change!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] EarlZ:
I've never owned an Iphone mainly because of the price, I feel Im paying too much for what I am getting. But after using an IP4 for about 2 weeks and I can say that iOS just works. Im not saying that Andriod is broken or anything. It does have it positive points but the freedom on the device is severely limited.

Im actually open to getting my own Iphone when they start to ship with a bigger screen and support hardware level video playback decoding on h264 but I think that will never happen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hackerboi:
trolled ;)

:p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] macminer:
Ease vs power

I am surprised how often people are disappointed with solutions which are clearly meant for a power user, while what they really expect is ease of use. For me the whole discussion about Android / Samsung deficiencies and iOS friendliness is based mostly on misunderstandings or "mis-expectations".

First of all, I have never owned an iPhone or iPad, but have helped some friends who couldn't even configure their devices, so I have some first hand experience. For me iPhone is really simplistic, has very limited options, but nearly all options function as expected. I wouldn't buy an iPhone simply because it does not have the options I need and the idea of being tied to iTunes for most tasks that logically do not demand such tool makes me feel sick.

Secondly, I am aware that Android is still immature, but it has great potential. Many things (like common application interface) could still be implemented and perhaps will. I have had experience of PalmOS, WinCE, WinMobile (aka Pocket PC) and have witnessed the process of OS maturing, concurrently with the apps for the given OS. So I hope Android will mature and ICS is a big step towards maturity.

Lastly, some of the problems OP noticed are real and are really a shame. KIES is certainly one of them, and perhaps the biggest one. It is pathetic and I wonder how anyone can have the nerve to release software like this after we have seen Palm Desktop, iTunes and ActiveSync. It is really beyond me that such a big company as Samsung cannot hire some decent programmers and produce a piece of software which would simply work predictably every time it is launched. As it is now, KIES is always hit-or-miss. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and even when it does it is painfully slow.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] itsjusttim:
Chainfire 3d
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] zkyevolved:
LMFAO!!! +10char
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] EarlZ:
Even if you get Kies to work there is nothing there at you can really do, I used to back up my contacts using Kies but theres an Import to SD card function on the phone.

Between andriod and iOS, i just want andriod to have a standard and 100% bullet proof UI rendering that can deliver 60fps locked at ANY given time.. whats the point of having dual/quadcores when things like the UI stutters.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] magichoward:
Hi I'm the guy that started the thread

Fistly I'm not a fanboy of apple and I dislike the locked system.

But correct me if I'm wrong when I jailbreaked the iphone my phones warranty is not effected ( apple may not of liked it ) however if I root my note my warranty is out the window?

2 I have an unlocked note why have I not got an update Samsung controls this and many people are forced to root their phones just to get an update which has been out a good few weeks now ...what am I missing here apple at least updates millions of devices within a couple of days.

I don't mind downloading apps to make the note better but get real just look at the reviews of many of the apps " crashed my system. Doesn't work. And look how many claim to be free but they are trials only but don't say that in there description very annoying.

All I'm saying for the kind of moneI feel y this costs Samsung and android should monitor the apps better not police them ) but just makesure they work as promised and don't have maleware.

I too can't go back to a small screen
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hackerboi:
With an iPhone if you jailbreak it , you have to restore to a nonjailbroken state to claim warranty. Secondly if you upgrade via iTunes jailbreak is obviously gone. With android you can use mobile odin to carry the r00t over.

On an Android you can install apps outside of the market without r00ting too while in the apple camp you can not install anything outside of appstore without jailbreaking. I keep my music backed up on a 1TB portable HDD and it was a pain while syncing with itunes as it needs all files to be present on the system. Finally after jailbreaking i used a 3rd party software to sync music without itunes.

As for the apps, Android is a diverse system of devices some with small screen some with huge screens like the NOTE and also different processors etc. Therefore the apps are bound to have compatibility issues. Developers at apple have to deal with it only 3GS, 4 and 4S !
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] foxmeister:
Same is true of most Android devices though!

Not necessarily true! *Samsung* Android device can use Mobile Odin, but not devices from say Motorola or HTC. Also, there's no guarantee that any given update won't break any form of "ever-root".

I hope you don't mean "cracked" as in Warez! ;)

Better to say that most unrooted Android devices allow you to sideload apps from sources other than the Android market.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Adi_Pat:
Backup ! No iTunes no backup ! For me .. 7-8mins Titanium Backup gets me all my apps... 30s all I have to do is restore contacts from a .vcf and 30s to restore sms from sms backup and restore ! Do that in your iPhone .. Whats the use of better apps ? U have to pay for most of them..till u jailbreak .. Android ? U dont wanna pay ? There are methods* to get apps free... Talking about iOS user friendliness ? Flash MIUI .. Want better performance ? CM7 or CM9 is there ! Wtf .. Bluetooth is virtually not present .. Everyone doesnt own an iDevice.. Even a phone costing 1K in India has bluetooth :P... U cannot customize a thing.. Dont like Touchwiz ? Change the Launcher ! Try doing a Launcher change in iPHone... Someone said ... I used chainfire and got the game running.. LOL even if your device is not supposed to run it you can run it ! Thats the beauty of android.. only place where the iPhone scores is the UI rendering and pps thats it ! Otherwise a phone like the S2 walks over the iPhone --
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] magichoward:
sorry I was wrong

I thought apple lost a law case and jailbreaked was legal and did not effect the warranty.

Re the comment above I understand there ate many different android phones out there. But surely it can't be too much to ask when I go to the market place and enter I have the note I expect to see only apps that work on my Note.

Lets ics. Solves that
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hackerboi:
For warranty you iDevice has to be NON JAILBROKEN. Apple actively fighting the exploits of the dev team by releasing updates and apple usually stop signing the old firmware. If you go to the market there is a compatibility sign on the left.

Hoping ICS to bring some goodness :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] carhigh:
6 seconds to open the app to create a contact????? It doesn't take 6 seconds for contacts to open, or to have a new contact page open for input.

Some people need to stay on drugs, but stay away from keyboards
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
It's not just a mistake, but a strategy which hurts consumers, innovation and competition. It's why apple nearly disappeared in the 90's while Microsoft rose to dominance.

It is an insult and a ripoff.

P.s. Steve Wozniak was the inventor of the apple pc and he respects Android.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Oneiricl:
Magichoward:

Don't throw stuff like that around without knowing the facts.

If you jailbreak an iPhone, your warranty is void

Apple doesn't support developers by giving out any form of source to help with jailbreaking

Apple is constantly trying to shut down jailbreaking, matter of fact (read here and here

Most Android manufacturers, on the other hand, actively help devs and modders (only notable exception is Sony)

The problems with Android are generally small issues like smoothness or ability to use the hardware. All of which are solvable and will get solved over time. The only issue that isn't solvable* because it's systemic - it arises from the very structure of the Android ecosystem -is the wait for updates. This is a necessary tradeoff to having choice regarding handsets. A tradeoff I am more than happy to make.

The problems with Apple are systemic - a propensity for closed systems under Apple's direct control. That means issues like locked down devices, lack of user control, no access to different kinds of phones, lack of functionality will not change unless Apple significantly changes its strategy, something that's not likely to happen.

*While waiting for updates may not be a problem that can be completely solved, it can get better - i.e. time to update can be reduced - if companies streamline their updates and handset portfolios.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ngocdao:
i never understood why people have huge arguments about which OS is superior. it is suppose to be a personal preference thing, not a social thing...

But..

What i like about Android is the very fact that it is not perfect..yet...and yet, i am still impress with a work in progress. means there is more to look forward to.

When you,ve reached the top..the only direction left to go is down.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ngocdao:
hah?? Steve wasnt even there for most of Apple's failure in the 90s.... In FACT, he was their savior in the late 90s
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Darfus:
That was another steve...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ngocdao:
I'm sorry, should have been more clear.

Steve jobs (and Steve W. ) was not present during Apple's failure in the early 90's.

It is Steve Jobs return in the mid to late 90's that resuscitated Apple
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] deymayor:
I will never agree to the notion that 1 os is generally better than the other. Andriod has a vast majority of audience just like ths ios. What i dont understand is why people who decided to crosss the other side and start comparing things, expecting the things he left behind. My wife and my kids hate android and they mock me each time i flash a new rom. I mock them each time they cant watch movies i downloaded on my phone or each time they try to talk to Siri.

In the end, we're all happy because we have a phone that works for us, unlike the others that switch sides and cant seem to stop whining about it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] foxmeister:
Here, here!

Most of the people who post that iOS/Android/WP7 is crap haven't actually got a clue! The simple facts are that they are all good, modern, OS's, but certain choices have been made when developing them that make them stronger or weaker depending on your own, personal, requirements.

My wife has an iPad and an iPhone, whereas I have Android phones and tablets. Personally, I find her iOS devices frustrating to use, but she absolutely loves them.

So who is right? The answer is both and neither simultaneously because we have different requirements and different expectations.

Currently, Android is the OS that best serves my requirements and expectations - if say WP8 came out next year and did a better job for my needs, I would make the switch without hesitation.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hackerboi:
Do iOS Apps Crash More Than Android Apps? A Data Dive - Forbes http://onforb.es/zATSWs --- An interesting article.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] daddymatt:
Well said! The Android/iOS fight is just silly!... its like comparing apples to robots!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mustang2012:
@allejandrissimo... Man... you really NAILED HIM PERFECTLY... !!! GOOD ON YOU LOL
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
Yea, it was his strategy to make it a closed platform from '97 on that allowed microsoft to walk all over apple.

Just before he returned there was an open platform experiment.

I don't know if you are aware of the Powermacs, processors that were made by 3rd parties that allowed innovation and competition.

Jobs stopped this and reverted to his control freak policy and that's why apple was left behind.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] trea916:
Good jod guys
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ollonk:
I recently bought a lapdock, and I've been fighting and moving through to try and get the mod to work, but now I've hit a dead end that I can't beat.

I'm on the latest "lite" version of the WetDream ROM and I'm using the webtop that was preinstalled with it. I've got a 2gb partition set up on webtop2sd. My problem is that I can't get LXterminal to launch. Webtop configurator successfully installed Synaptic; firefox and AWN manager work fine as well, but I am at a dead end without a terminal. I tried installing others from synaptic, but even the simplest one (xvt) had a single, unfulfilled dependency. I've tried everything that I know how to try, including multiple installs of the ROM and of Webtop2sd.

Can anyone lend a hand?

EDIT: I also tried flashing the webtop-mod from this thread: [WEBTOP] 2.3.4 webtop fixed image [CWM Install] V1 . It gives me the same problem with lxterminal.

(Note, I would have posted here but I don't have enough posts.)

Thanks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ollonk:
Please excuse the double post; I'm not intentionally bumping my thread.

I have found a "solution." I'm in the process of repairing my webtop now. My situation seems to be very unique, but I'd like to document it in case anyone comes along and has it again.

The trick I used was completely external to my Atrix, though. Without a terminal, I couldn't access tar or bash, but I could run single commands by making a custom entry on the modified AWN. So, here we go.

For anyone who has tried repeatedly to use Webtop2sd but has always lacked terminal access, here's my method.

Requirements: Access to a linux system, rudimentary knowledge of the terminal, or any other method of mounting your webtop2sd partition on a system with access to tar and permission changing methods.

****WORKING Awn Manager in webtop

Download the Dependency fixing scripts.

Mount your Webtop2sd partition and manually extract the scripts to their location in /usr/share/WebTopScripts/

Boot your device to webtop and setup a custom entry in Awn Manager with the following command:

"sudo bash /usr/Share/WebTopScripts/fix-apt-get.sh" (This should work with most versions of the script; also, no quotes in the actual command.)

That was enough to get Lxterminal working and gives me access to all the other mod methods on the forum that assume you have access to a working terminal. It's not really very helpful for Windows or Mac users, but it's the only thing that I could manage.

Feel free to close the thread, mods.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rayan:
You gotta make sure to install LXTerminal from the Webtop Configuration applet where you installed Synaptic.

Sometimes it refuses to install at first so you have to try several times until it budges.

Try closing and opening the configuration window until you see both synaptic and LXTerminal buttons greyed out.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ollonk:
I'm almost certain that it was installed before (it was marked as present in synaptic), but just refusing to launch.

However, I broke my webtop just before getting it how I wanted it, so when I have time to give it another try, I'll see if being a little more persistent with it this time will work.

EDIT: Wow, the next 2 times that I had to install webtop, lxterminal worked just fine. Now I just have to get the scripts to actually fix all the dependencies and not end up with a broken webtop after installing software.
[Motorola Droid 3] hilokilo:
Hello.

I was just wondering if you can type other languages on Droid 3's hardware keyboard.

Is there an app for that because I couldn't find anything like this!

Please! I want to type other languages on this beautiful keyboard!

Who else is interested?

If you are busy, please consider to at least post "interested". In this thread.