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[Motorola Droid RAZR] wardo5757:
There is more plastic in that housing, it's deeper to accommodate the deeper battery, it also covers the battery terminals. But the back cover from the Maxx will still snap down on the Razr as it is, but its flimsy until it hits the battery. i believe the Maxx battery will fill that gap and make is almost as firm. I don’t think you will need to change that since that back is VERY flexible and don’t think it will break easily from a fall. I don’t know what changing the housing will add to the mod, but from that video it doesn't look very hard to change

The aluminum frames appear to be identical.

I think I am going to do the mod tonight. I will take the battery from the Maxx and put it in the Razr without changing the housing to make sure it works. That should give you guys some hope if it does....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] got556:
Funny how on the motorola community forums "Matt" the mod/admin/whatever kept spouting off how "impossible" this task would be.

Typical type bull**** from Moto.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mindrazr:
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Do it and take pictures! May the Force be with you.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tooter1:
Am I seeing the battery rating right: 3200 mAh?

Still awesome if it is, just thought it said 3300 mAh is in the MAXX....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wardo5757:
Ok, as you guys can see in the pictures, the mod works!!!! Getting the battery out of the Maxx was a big pain in the ass because you have to take off the rear housing, but! Once I did get it off, the battery slid right into the razor, perfect fit! The picture you see of a booted phone is the Razr with the Maxx battery installed….I put the cover of the Maxx on the Razr after i put the battery in. You can NOT tell the difference in fell from the original Maxx. The only issue is the sim card door, in order to change that you will need to get the Maxx rear housing. I just want to add that the phones went back together easily, can't tell the either were touched.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] klubhead:
This. Is. AWESOME. Nicely done wardo.. Now, where to find MAXX batteries/covers?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sleek69:
I bet someone is going to buy a razr off craigslist and do this mod then sell it as a razr maxx for profit haha.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Isnt everything else the same (besides the battery)?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] yourbabysdaddy:
Awesome wardo. You give hope to all of us!!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pm1066:
Any chance the sticky stuff is thermal paste? There was some early speculation it would be needed for heat dissipation.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wardo5757:
sorry, it's sticky is all i know..... I wouldn't know how to tell the difference.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] topaz330:
anyone know where we can buy the battery now? seems too new for it to be on ebay. also seems like the gap can be rectified with a cover no?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Cruiserdude:
Awesome news! Been wondering about this for awhile. So we need the battery, rear cover, sim/sd door, and back housing from a Maxx to make this look OEM. Hopefully it won't be too long until we can purchase all of these parts for under $100 total. In the mean time, I'll keep playing around with software methods to extend life, and by the time this is available I should get mind-blowing battery life.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wardo5757:
The sim door is welded to the rear housing, I think thats the only way to change that door, but purchasing new housing is not needed to do the mod. But if it were me, I wouldn't mind that gap, it looks bad in the picture, but its not that bad looking at it in your hand. If you have a cover on your phone, the gap isn't an issue at all. A battery and a rear cover is all you need to get the battery life, housing is purely cosmetic.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] GTastic:
Does anyone have any idea where we can buy the battery and back? Or is this something that we just have to hold out for?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stevessvt:
Dude, to rip those two very expensive pieces of hardware apart....you have issues.

Wonderful, insane issues.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] foxkat:
Double-sided tape to fuse Kevlar back to battery

The "sticky stuff" is simply a piece of die-cut double-sided tape. It's simply a piece of thin clear plastic, possibly Mylar, with an acrylic adhesive on both sides. You can purchase double-sided tape in roll form much the same as you can purchase standard tape in roll form, and you simply tear off the length you need, apply it, and then peel off the release paper from the back to expose the other adhesive side.

It wouldn't benefit much if at all to have thermal paste between the battery and the Kevlar since the thermal conductivity of Kevlar is very low. Any heat dissipation is coming for the most part from between the Kevlar fibers rather than through or by way of them. If the back were either Aluminum or an alloy of Aluminum then the thermal conductivity of that casing would be high and there would be considerable benefit to making a thermal bond with the casing.

The one on the battery is cut out in the section around where the inside of the Kevlar has the Motorola badge. There is a slightly raised square on the inside of the Kevlar and if the tape weren't cut out, it would cause a bump on the Kevlar in the shape of that square. There's also a smaller cutout on one side, and I believe is accommodating the volume rocker. As an alternative, you could apply one thin piece of tape where the badge is and then double up the tape on all other battery surfaces to create a small indentation for the raised portion of the Kevlar to rest into, but I don't see the need.

You can see the areas that are cut out on the 2nd and 4th photo of this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22240635&postcount=40, and in the 3th pic you can see the square of the plastic badge on the inside of the Kevlar backs.

;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Yea i cant wait to find one now! haha

:rofl:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] techm8n:
Anyone tried contacting Motorola to find out where to purchase replacement parts?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wardo5757:
I did, was told Moto does NOT sell parts. I would need to contact the partners.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Any lead on how to contact them?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wardo5757:
I went to the Motorola Razr site and click support. I called the number posted and got no where rapidly...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] techm8n:
You mentioned that we need to replace the housing to make a perfect fit for the sim/sd. Do you mean the chassis frame?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Cruiserdude:
This piece, its just the plastic back housing that the cover snaps onto. Looks like there's just a few screws around the periphery, and there's one under the shiny garnish strip covering the camera, flash, and speaker. It goes on top of the motherboard and steel chassis, so there's nothing else to remove, just screws.

Though if someone can figure out a way to extend the mounting location for the sd/sim door on the regular RAZR housing, we could just use the Maxx's door and call it a day. The housing doesn't look hard to change, but I haven't seen one for the regular RAZR for much under $30, and I'd wanna keep the total cost to under $100.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wardo5757:
That's exactly right! Pulling that housing off isn't hard at all, I had to remove it off in order to pull the battery on the Maxx, but that wasn't necessary on the Razr, just remove the rear cover and 4 screws for the battery and it's out.

What I observed on the door, that door hinge is plastic welded to the housing and changing doors would be more trouble than it's worth. If you want to change the door you will need to change the housing/frame.

Just want to add, that battery with the sticky tape on the rear is a BEAR to get out. I had to pry with a screw driver while pulling on the tab. By the time it was out it was all disconfigured, but it's a lipo so its easy to reform..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] 13i11y:
Gosh that would be crazy to have better battery too, but i think i learned my lesson with modding for now
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Brynn217:
I was lucky, I was still within my first 14days with the Razr and simply returned it and ordered the Maxx which I've now how for about 5days... The battery Life is incredible compared to the Razr....

However, good luck finding someone with a broken Razr Maxx that would just sell it for the battery and rear part of the case....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] SmokeNMirrors:
Eventually some enterprising Moto service center will figure out they can make bank selling us replacement MAXX parts. As someone mentioned, we'll not be able to get them directly from Moto as they don't deal directly with consumers for spare parts.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Where did the pic of the frame come from? Someone mentioned that it was around $30 for it?

What site are you guys finding these parts?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] foxkat:
I know that removing the battery can be tough, and it is flexible, but I would advise anyone doing so to take it slow and easy rather than trying to wrench it out (especially with a screwdriver). It is possible by bending it and creasing the layers (or puncturing such as with a metal object) to create an internal short and if so, the battery will self-destruct with potentially devastating consequences and no way to stop it. I recommend that if you remove the battery, do so outdoors, using eye protection, heavy clothing and if possible gloves. If the battery begins to heat up, run! If any gasses begin to escape, be sure to not inhale them, and make sure you have plenty of ventilation and stand upwind of the phone while removing the battery. I can't stress enough how dangerous this can be if done incorrectly.

If you don't believe me, watch this video of a couple goof-offs hitting a LIPO battery with a nail on the end of a stick... Take note of the time from the impact to the blow-torch flames. They are laughing but this is no laughing matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OsBc8RqSKU
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Z4nd4r:
http://www.cellulardr.com/motorola-xt910-verizon-droid-razr-parts-accessories.html

Selling for $40 right now.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Thank you :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
WOW! This is really amazing!!

Did anyone already managed to swap the battery and rear housing with the maxx without that gap by the sim and sd door?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] techm8n:
Fixed my Droid Razr battery issue.....

By switching to a Razr Maxx. This thing is awesome. I enabled live wallpaper, constantly syncing 4 email accounts, Weather Bug, music streaming, and 40% brightness setting and battery still lasts all day. Best smartphone ever. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Where did u pick up the battery?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iolinux333:
I pay 100 dollars to anyone who offered a real lithium polymer battery with guaranteed genuine maxx capacity and a quality flush fitting housing
[Motorola Droid RAZR] techm8n:
No, i purchased a Droid Razr Maxx, then selling my Droid Razr.

I didn't. Swap batteries.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Ah gotcha :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] amendolaro1:
amazon has a replacement battery
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wardo5757:
No it doesn't
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Yea from the search I did on Google/Amazon.. its LISTED as a Razr Maxx battery.. but its CLEARLY NOT.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] hvkong:
I keep coming back to this thread to see if someone has actually found out where to order the Razr Maxx Batt, Battery Cover and the SIM/SD Card Door

---------- Post added at 06:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:55 PM ----------

After watching the video, it seems that the SIM/SD Card Door is part of the frame.

youtube.com/watch?v=78gJRP8NzRA

Skip to 4:40
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ronin3178:
I think if you give a few months, parts will make their way out there. For now,I haven't found anything either.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sporttster:
Yea, wait a couple decades when Moto finally gets around to selling a upgrade battery because that's the only thing that keeps em in business now since their customer base all but vanished due to corporate ignorance concerning what their customers want and arrogance to not give it to them, and you're using the Sammy Super Nexus HD 4D holographic with a fully open system.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] hvkong:
Still no news... I'm getting impatient. Even at MWC 2012 Motorola's presence is hardly felt.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
ive been searching online for a battery like every other day lol
[Motorola Droid RAZR] lapya:
Having just announced the biggest invention of the last couple of years yet again Motorola did manage to let down customers from USA who has bought Razr before with not providing 3300 mah replacement batteries and overseas customers who can only exploit that flawless piece of art if and only if the GSM version could follow her CDMA sister!!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iolinux333:
sorry i need to delete this
[Motorola Droid RAZR] hvkong:
I give up. I've been googling everyday for news on Moto's possible release of a GSM version of the Maxx or at least replacement parts and have come up empty.

While checking and reading articles, it seems Motorola isn't the type of company to care about their consumers (ex. Unlocked Bootloader promises, releasing the Maxx within a few months of the original Razr, etc.) Sigh. Maybe I should stick to Sony.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] moonshine.30:
Sounds great :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dligon:
i have an old motorcycle battery can i replace the razr battery with it. that's just in case i need a jump start my car i can use my phone.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] laneyofdeath:
That, my good man, is very clever. Nice!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Jonathanlc2005:
will this work with the photon?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Er, no? The RAZR and RAZR Maxx are physically the same phone aside from the battery and back cover, so the parts are easily swapped. The Photon's battery isn't even the same shape.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
Any idea how to sort out that "gap"??
[Motorola Droid RAZR] hvkong:
You will need to replace 3 parts. First the Razr battery to the Razr Maxx Battery, then the Razr Battery Cover to the Razr Maxx Battery Cover.

If you want to fix the gap, you'll also need to replace the inner plastic frame because the sim card / microSD card door is attached to that inner plastic frame. So you'll need the Razr Maxx inner plastic frame and replace the Razr frame with it. The question though is if the Razr Maxx's inner frame is compatible with the Razr frame.

See more pics here

www

ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-RAZR-Teardown/7048/1
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
Thanks... in fact i see no reason why the plastic bezel shouldn't be compatible... i will definitely give it a try when all the parts are available...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
I still want to find avail parts :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] hvkong:
Folks,

There is a post in the droid forums saying that Droid Razr Maxx spare parts will be available soon. At the date of the post (1/21/2012) the poster said spare parts will come within 4-6 weeks. Well it's >4 weeks and now March is 6 weeks. Hopefully we'll see the spare parts becoming available soon. Now if only I can unlock this link feature in XDA so I can post proper links. Lol.

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-razr/185978-razr-replacement-parts-3.html
[Motorola Droid RAZR] hvkong:
Folks,

Another update... someone from Droidrzr.com forums seems to have found a supplier for the Maxx battery, backplate, SD card door and tools. They're organizing a group buy. Anybody interested?

http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/1231-maxx-battery-and-back-cover-group-buy/page__p__22298

If you have any news of a Maxx GSM or OEM replacement parts, please do share!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Well well, look what just popped up on my semi-regular Googling for MAXX parts - the back cover is now available to order from Random OEM Cellphone Components Shop #1. $39.95US, about what I'd expected. Annoyingly, they don't have the actual battery yet, and I'm not terribly keen to just increase my phone's thickness for the hell of it, but at least this means we shouldn't have long to wait.

Are you excited? I'm excited.

P.S. For some reason, the MAXX is apparently coded as both XT912M and XT916. Worth searching for both.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sim Kai Long:
Damn, that's good to see/hear. Hope to see the actual battery released soon.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wardo5757:
Thanks Onslaught! thats a great find!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Getting closer :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] yusuff:
Keep us updated!

Im sure the Parts are made in China or East Asia.. just hopefully someone hunts them down, or bribe someone at motorola services centre to spill the beans
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jonnyzlio:
This really is gr8 news! Thx Op for that. I was always keen to wait for my battery to drain completely then charge just to extend its life time, now I have a better plan. I can recharge it as many times as I want during the day, making sure I always have it semi full when I am taking the phone to places with no chargers and when the battery starts to die, estimate 6-12 months, there won't be so much fuzz around the Maxx, and most probably a back cover and a battery off eBay will be an easy task, I can change the battery with a Maxx battery. Now I will enjoy my utra slim phone with all the envy it gets from almost everybody!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sleek69:
So is it more money to buy the razr maxx or buy a razr and install the batter?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tech_head:
Since you can't just install the Maxx battery in a Razr; I'd say buying the Maxx is cheaper.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Judging by the cost of replacement parts, it's likely to be the same price either way. This is more use to those who bought their RAZRs before the MAXX was announced. Or, say, every GSM owner, since there's no GSM MAXX.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
I didnt know that.. :confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] vash_h:
let's be patient. I'm figuring by the time changing batteries is proven, my phone would b out of warranty.. thus out wouldn't do much harm trying.

And by then my original battery would have started too develop problems.. In my experience, I start to replace my smartphones batteries after 2 years of usage.

Sent from my XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
I'm searching for MAXX batteries on a daily basis. My RAZR has unacceptably poor battery life, and I eagerly await the day I can change that.

I've been patient enough with this phone already.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sim Kai Long:
Same here mate. Using the GSM Razr here. No choice of getting the Maxx. :mad:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pm1066:
I've had a bit of luck. VZW is replacing my Razr due to a hardware issue. While talking with the tech, he asked if everything else was fine. I whined about battery life, and he offered me a Maxx as a replacement. So, that route worked for me!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tgeigel:
Lucky!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
awesome!

........
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Quick update, I emailed the site that has the back cover - the originally-named http://cellphone-repair-shop.com -They tell me they've ordered a shipment of MAXX batteries and are just waiting for them to arrive.

Will definitely be buying one when they do, and will hopefully be able to post a video of the installation and results. Fingers crossed and all that.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
I cant wait!!!

Any idea on how much they both will be?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Well, they want $39.95 US for the MAXX back and $39.95 US for the regular flavour RAZR battery, so I assume another $10-$20US for the MAXX battery over the regular. Maybe $100US shipped? Hoping they don't charge an arm and a leg to send them to NZ.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] hvkong:
WOW! great news onslaught86! Looking forward to it along with the others!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
Not too bad!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] equake:
Not sure if this place will do International repairs but it is located in LA so I will eventually stop by and see what they have to upgrade.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] WVULTRA:
Seems they have/will have the MAXX back cover and the battery.......

Wondering if they'll also offer the sim card door for the MAXX as they do for the XT910/912 models? If so, the 3 components should make for a stock looking conversion!

:D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
I just want the parts, happy to do the labour myself. Looks like they do ship intentionally, it's the price that's in question, heh.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Cris_C:
Oddly enough its the opposite for me hehe. I don't really care how much the battery and the Backdoor will cost, I'm just afraid of messing up my RAZR. Anyone know if they will replace the battery for you if you send it in as a "repair" or any other reputable place that will do it?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Happy to be the guinea pig in this case, there are some good disassembly guides. Looks to be a straightforward procedure.

Wouldn't hurt to ask that site if they'll do it for you once the parts are in stock.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sim Kai Long:
Seems to be coming on great. Really looking forward to better battery life. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] al3xx:
I'm about to get an XT910 and that would be a really really attractive upgrade so that I would never have to worry about running out of battery...My Atrix is great but the battery life isn't so great with CM9.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tgeigel:
Once you successfully change everything and put up video tutorial it should be a breeze. I look forward to your tutorial :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iolinux333:
I wonder though if it is a genuine, or equivalent to genuine MAXX battery. I've been buying replacement phone batteries for a decade and have never, not once, not even from a carrier store (t-mobile) purchased one that didn't turn out to be a cheap fake, with half or even less life as compared to the original. I'd love to see a head to head comparison with a factory MAXX when this all comes together.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Be an unnecessarily expensive procedure to duplicate kevlar back covers, surely? The site in question claims everything is OEM, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Have certainly purchased official batteries from other sources in the past (See: the Galaxy S II OEM extended battery), so it's not all doom and gloom in that department.

Even if these aren't OEM batteries, I can't imagine the battery life they offer being any worse than the awful experience I currently have.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] hvkong:
Hi onslaught86, if you get to talk again with the repair shop guys, can you ask if they have MAXX back covers that don't have the Verizon Logo? +1 also for the Sim Card / SD Card Door question.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pm1066:
But wait, there's more. VZW lied. They sent me a regular Razr. Turns out due to stock issues, they are forbidden sending Maxxs out unless they are replacing a Maxx. To say I'm a bit ticked is putting it mildly. They even noted in my record I was supposed to get a Maxx, yet screwed me over. I had even ordered new cases for the Maxx I now have to return.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stupidchicken03:
wow thats a major bummer :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pm1066:
Indeed. I even offered to pay the delta and the guy basically said it didn't matter how much I paid, it was purely a stock issue.

On another note, I saw the repair shop guys had the backs and frames in, but don't appear to have batteries yet. Did anyone else find them yet?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
Given there's no non-Verizon Maxx, I doubt a branding-free back cover exists.

Doesn't bother me, being on the back and all, front branding is much more intrusive, especially when Moto put that obnoxious carrier name in the status bar - like we'll forget who we pay each month if we aren't constantly reminded.

Don't intend to get a Maxx SIM/SD card door myself, unless the new back means the current one won't work at all. I'm fine with a small gap.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pm1066:
I thought you'd need to replace the internal frame as well to do the card door swap anyway. Since mine, if I get this done, would live in an Otterbox case I'd never see the gap either.