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[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
What does superuser hanging mean? Do certain apps keep forgetting they have SU permission? I'm really thinkers mg about hoping onto cm7. The miui beta is pretty but it's annoying the crap out of me.
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
There are times when apps that require root hang when launching. Titanium Backup is an app, amongst others, that I have seen just hang as it attempts to acquire root access, even though the app has already been given permission to gain the access.

It usually requires going in and killing the hung app and relaunching it. Sometimes, it might require even going in and killing the SU process as well.

I've only seen this happen with CM7.
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
That sounds quite annoying but I'd take that over the plethora of force closes I'm having with miui.
[Motorola Droid X2] Mr One 2:
I had the su hang for the first week, and the problem just went away. Not sure if anyone else had that. I use esfile explore and titanium quite a bit without any issues. Just curious if anyone else's problem just went away?
[Motorola Droid X2] Maximinus I:
I had the su hang using es file. Then it just disappeared and hasn't done it again. I can't wait to see what cm9 brings to our phones with how awesome cm7 has been.

How does this work again??
[Motorola Droid X2] king..kranium:
I just reset my phone because the su rights thing was driving me crazy...
[Motorola Droid X2] antEris:
I used to have su hangs, then I took an arrow to the knee.
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
Are you kidding me....

On topic: has anyone found any quick ways to combat the su hangs?
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Stupid Question, has anyone tried updating the superuser binaries?
[Motorola Droid X2] king..kranium:
I have no luck bro
[Motorola Droid X2] CadenH:
Check twitter! ;)
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
And be sure to spam him for eta's. I hear he loves that.
[Motorola Droid X2] kenjesse:
I've been running CM7 for the better part of a month now and I'm still amazed at just how good this phone is. Hell, I even showed it off to one of the Verizon reps just the other day when I dropped by to pay my bill, he was very impressed. (And of course made him my standard offer of half the bounty and my Betty Page wallpaper should he happen too pass along the unlock info for the bootloader, can't hurt too ask...:rolleyes: )

Anyway I've been back reading dragonzkiller's posts and dropping in on the IRC #cm7dx2 channel too watch some of that voodoo dev magic as it happens and cannot believe how much these guys have accomplished in such a short span of time. The DX2 community is truly blessed by this fantastic group of devs and I wonder just how much longer Motorola and Verizon will remain deaf, dumb and blind too the benefits of allowing and supporting their efforts.

My thanks to all the dev's for the work that brought us CM7, MIUI, all the ROM's that made Moto Blur bearable and of course the tweaks. I'm proud to be a part of this community and only wish I could offer more than my thanks.

And for sure I'll be test driving CM9 just as soon as it is posted, but I'll let someone else ask for the eta...lol
[Motorola Droid X2] king..kranium:
I think ill let u guys check that alpha out and ill play it by ear... I heard the miui alpha is... frustrating.
[Motorola Droid X2] kenjesse:
That twitter account just keeps looking better and better :)
[Motorola Droid X2] tonybahr:
Yes its coming along now, still loving cm7 though.
[Motorola Droid X2] MrWilliams2:
I couldn't disagree more. The MIUI beta is amazing.
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
Seconded, I'd take my miui beta over the current cm7 everyday of the week.
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
I think he's referring to DZK's miui alpha
[Motorola Droid X2] tonybahr:
Miui looks sweet but who wants to completely relearn how to do pretty much everything on the phone. I've tried miui twice now and never made it a full day. Cm7 has wifi issues but as soon as I open settings it connects. Ill take that trade for cm7.
[Motorola Droid X2] Pixelation:
The following are DK's latest tweets...

I could have released #cm9dx2 last week, but it was super buggy. At least it's "tolerable" now. That's why I've waited. -- dragonzkiller (@dragonzkiller)

Ok. things are not appearing to segfault anymore. so maybe a release soon. NO ETA! DO NOT ASK ME. I will rage... :) -- dragonzkiller (@dragonzkiller)

Dee Ex Two - See Em Seven
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
Who? Anyone who is tired of the same old thing, I suppose.
[Motorola Droid X2] Ihatepullups:
What's different between miui and cm7 anyways? What does miui do that cm7 doesn't?
[Motorola Droid X2] BreatheALittle:
Ihatepullups -

I know a big difference is HDMI access. CM7 does not have HDMI. However, that is not a deal breaker to some people, like me. MIUI is more iPhone-ish, if you like that style. As I am a previous iPhone owner, I want to get away from that style. CM7 is more about straight Android with more customization. I love CM7's built in support for wireless hotspot and tethering. And CM7 is faaaaaaaast. Like whoa.

Both have their Beta issues, but either one is a great ROM to flash.
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
Ok. things are not appearing to segfault anymore. so maybe a release soon. NO ETA! DO NOT ASK ME. I will rage... :)

-From Dragon's twitter like 2 mins ago

I am excite

---------- Post added at 03:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:41 AM ----------

Hmmm I dont know. In my experience, an untweaked miui is a tad faster than an untweaked cm7. And as far customization goes, you really think so? I dont think you can get any crazier than miui in that department.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Lol

More like 20hrs ago
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
The time on my twitter is off...
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Lol :p

Yeah seems like it is, only a little bit :eek:
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
Sorry guys, I herped my derp :p
[Motorola Droid X2] MrWilliams2:
Both do have their issues and both are very fast. CM7 isn't any faster than MIUI though. Also, I'd say MIUI has an edge in the cusimization department. A theme skins EVERYTHING from the menus to the icons to the lockscreen. In addition, you can mix themes... choose a top bar from one, icons from another, lockscreen from another. Find icons you love? Add them to any theme you like. To say that CM7 is more customizable is comical.

MIUI is most definately different from a standard android OS, but its far from being an iPhone. I have ran both CM7 and MIUI and both are great, but they are substantially different. All of you who havent given MIUI a fair shake don't know what you're missing. The beta is good enough to be a daily driver for most.
[Motorola Droid X2] BreatheALittle:
Ummm not sure when you last checked out CM7, but it does all those same things. My entire phone is a collaboration of mixed themes - from my dock, to my icons, to my top bar, etc. To say that MIUI is more customizable than CM7 because it does everything you can do on CM7 just doesn't make sense. I've found that I am able to customize much more running CM7. But that's just my experience.

MIUI, in my humble opinion, is more iPhone-like. Yes, it is far from being an actual iPhone. But if you're familiar with owning/operating an iPhone, you see similarities. It's simply an aspect that is important to know.

I'd say MIUI's biggest draw (from the differences between the two ROMs) is its HDMI.

But anyway, back on topic. I'm totally stoked for CM9. Cannot wait for our turn, via DZK and his beastly magic. :) Any volunteer testers? :p
[Motorola Droid X2] 03civicdx:
I will say MIUI is easier to mix the themes though. But that's about the only difference as far as themes go I think. I like how I can get themes from the android market with cm7.
[Motorola Droid X2] king..kranium:
I said alpha

Wow someone can read... I said alpha..
[Motorola Droid X2] BreatheALittle:
^ Was originally going to ask to what you were referring... until I looked a few pages back. Little research always helps, haha! :)

So, you're passing up the Alpha testing? Aww... where's your sense of adventure? :p
[Motorola Droid X2] Pixelation:
He posted that way long ago, like before I posted it here

Dee Ex Two - See Em Seven
[Motorola Droid X2] DaveRichardson:
Only Blur-based roms have HDMI-out. Neither CM7 nor Miui offer HDMI out.

Anyway, I'm all in for Miui. I think it's gorgeous and intuitive (I've owned five Android devices and ran every rom under the sun--I've earned my fanboy merit badge and I'm not going to shy away from great UI and graphic design because of perceived similarity to "the enemy"). Besides being fast/smooth, I love the statusbar/toggle page tweak, the mix and match deeply integrated theme-engine, the Miui specific apps (browser, file explorer, gallery, music), and the way they have system settings organized. It's just polished to a shine.

The fact that Xiaomi is open sourcing it (proprietary Chinese software with covered code never sat well with me) turned Miui from my "guilty pleasure" rom, to my absolute, by far, rom of choice.

That said, Miui for the DX2 just isn't there yet. I get random reboots, app-by-app finickiness, the camera opens then freezes the image in two seconds every time I open it, and I can't stand the video/games issues.

I'm not sure if Ace gave up on it, but if he (or someone) irons out those issues, it'll be my daily driver. (And it's personal policy to toss a few bucks at the dev when I pick a long-term DD.)
[Motorola Droid X2] king..kranium:
Idk.. maybe I'm a coward...but u know what ur right... I'm gonna jump in... only way to learn anyway.
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
If this refers to me, please note that a couple people who replied to your opinion of miui alpha were in fact talking about miui beta. I was pointing this out to them not you.
[Motorola Droid X2] king..kranium:
No bruh u are among the literate... (not u bro) I actually have a certain level of respect for u and a few others....
[Motorola Droid X2] BreatheALittle:
Thanks for the correction re: MIUI and HDMI. I was misinformed.

And you bring up good arguments in support of MIUI. I may have to give it another chance.

But for CM9 ANTICIPATION... I may have to test out the Alpha. I've never flashed an Alpha before, but for this one... I may just have to!! Anyone have any tips for flashing an alpha rom? Other than simply to have patience? :)
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
Realize that it is not at all going to be perfect. Try not to kill yourself cause you might get more than a few fc's
[Motorola Droid X2] DaveRichardson:
Unless you're familiar with ADB (to run logcat for bug reports), there isn't really a whole lot we can do as "alpha-testers."

I'll flash the alpha for a day simply to see where it is, but I'm sure DZK and MoonShadow (I think that was his CM7 alpha tester) are well aware of any issues I could point out. So after checking out ICS, I'll be back to CM7 until CM9 beta. (Or a solid Miui release.)
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
Sweetness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-MAd6P2pQM
[Motorola Droid X2] Pixelation:
A quick preview of what's to come: http://t.co/cO3yZlwL -- dragonzkiller (@dragonzkiller)

Dee Ex Two - See Em Seven
[Motorola Droid X2] aetern1ty:
So stoked for this. Currently running MIUI4DX2 and it's pretty good. A CM9 Rom would be amazing though.
[Motorola Droid X2] DaveRichardson:
Wow, it's looking fantastic on that big qHD screen! Running pretty well, too. Wonder if the GPS/compass are working...
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
And no Superuser issues like in CM7. Great work, DZK.

TAKE THAT VERIZON AND MOTOROLA! DZK did what you didn't want to do - bring ICS to the X2 and keep it relevant.

And DZK proves who the REAL man is. Melvin could only DREAM of doing this. Just goes to show that Melvins YouTube video was crap. He didn't show ANY of this.

Nice ICS theme on that launcher, Melvin. DZK just pwned your butt!
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
NICE!!! Can't wait
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
Who is Melvin? He sounds like an epic troll.
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
Ok, when I first saw the video link I kinda skipped through it. But I just watched it and it looks great. Seems just as fast as CM7 and MIUI. It seems more on par with MIUI because of the video problems and all. But still seems awesome. Ill definitely be flashing this to try it out when its released. He also hinted at a little surprise too. Still looking forward to that.
[Motorola Droid X2] Pixelation:
.....dude .......

Dee Ex Two - See Em Seven
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
Dude yourself. Lol
[Motorola Droid X2] motcher41:
Doodie :)

Sent from my cyanocrack using Xparent Blue Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid X2] dust.:
Sorry if this is a noob question but what are some of the notable features that ice/cm9 has or will have? I know it looks awesome though haha

CM7 <3
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
It's ICS. That's the biggie right there because as far as we can tell, we WON'T be getting an official ICS from Verizon/Motorola.
[Motorola Droid X2] trafalger888:
I wish I could get my hands on a copy of that alpha that he is working on...I'd be more than happy to test it...can't wait for it to be released loving what I saw on YouTube
[Motorola Droid X2] king..kranium:
Plus one...
[Motorola Droid X2] DaveRichardson:
Just be patient. Like I said, unless you're relatively familiar with ADB, "testing" isn't going to be as big a help as you thing it is.

I've been active in various other device sub forums (where devs release an alpha the moment they get a device to the lockscreen) and I assure you, waiting an extra few weeks (and indulging in a silly-but-fun anticipation thread) is much preferable to a billion people spamming the alpha development thread by complaining about the same bugs, asking the same questions, etc. Which both distracts the dev from actually working on the rom and irritates him to the point where he regrets starting it!

It's DZK's work. He wants to get it to a certain level before he puts it out there.
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
I've been wondering the same thing, what are ics' big features?

And something tells me that "little surprise" might be HDMI. I hope so cause I'm starting to really miss it.
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
I highly doubt that. HDMI is not part of Cyanogen. It's part of BLUR which means you have to put blur back in, which goes against what Cyanogen is - which is AOSP. You have to remember, HDMI is Verizon's code, not Googles, or Cyanogen. It's proprietary code from Motorola.

One of the big issues CM9 has been having is an inoperable camera. Maybe DZK got it working? I know the gallery was a big issue and he got that working. In fact, if I remember, in his latest YouTube video, it's stated that the camera is still an issue.

So, I highly doubt HDMI will ever come to Cyangenmod. DZK has already stated this for CM7.

If you want HDMI, you're going to have to stick with a blur-based ROM or stock.
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
From what I got from the video, the little secret was something to do with the lockscreen. He said it was "hush hush" right now.
[Motorola Droid X2] robocuff:
I'm not so sure about that. I have a xoom that I'm running cm9 on right now and the hdmi works great. I did a bit of searching about this just yesterday and from what I read, ICS has native hdmi drivers. Could be wrong but from what I read and the fact the hdmi works on my xoom..........
[Motorola Droid X2] slinker1:
If so thats awesome indeed ;)
[Motorola Droid X2] trafalger888:
Understand...and agree...would still love to have it to play with...not trying to rush anyone nor would try to irritate anyone with unneeded or useless posts...
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
Well, if that's the case, awesome news indeed. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

One thing to remember with CM9 for DX2, it's STILL running on a Gingerbread (2.3.4) kernel since the bootloader is still locked. So, hopefully, the HDMI is NOT tied to the kernel. If so, then we probably won't see it for CM9DX2.

However, unlike for others, having no HDMI is not an issue for me. I've never used it. That's why I have my PC and my Blu-Ray player for.
[Motorola Droid X2] robocuff:
You have a valid point about the kernel. I don't really know if the drivers are dependent on it or not. Guess it's time to visit google again. :)

The HDMI thing isn't a problem for me either though. It is kind of handy for when I'm being a bum laying on the couch. I've got a wireless mouse and bluetooth keyboard and those combined with the HDMI make a really nice setup for kicking back and surfing the net from the bum position. :) I can use my xoom for that though so I don't miss it on the x2.
[Motorola Droid X2] DaveRichardson:
If it could upconvert the signal to full 1080p (in apps other than JUST the video app...with its odiously limited file formats, etc) instead of going SUPER grainy, it's a pretty great feature. I played through a few N64 games with my Asus Transformer HDMI-ing out to my TV and me controlling it all via WiiMote.

I'm a big fan of OnLive (Borderlands is on sale for $5, btw), and I'd love to be able to plug my DX2 into any TV, pull out a bluetooth controller and play console games.

All that is moot, however, since the DX2 HDMI-out only ever looked decent when you were playing videos in the stock video app.
[Motorola Droid X2] motcher41:
Don't worry guys sooner or later you'll get your cm9. It'll work to the best he can get it. He wont release something he deams unworthy. Jm glad for that as one. I mean honestly who really wants to have a non functional cm9. Ohhh the boot screen is pretty or wow this rom works great. Personally I'm happy patiently waiting for the later.

Doubt it'll be perfect but its gonna be worth the wait

Sent from my cyanocrack using Xparent Blue Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
Apparently, CM9 as a whole is having issues like dzk for other phones, so it's not just the x2.
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
Way to shoot me down...
[Motorola Droid X2] Moon Shadow - NM:
Correct, the issues plague almost all builds of CM9. Please keep in mind that CM9 is BASED on ICS which was "just released" so it will take some time for all the developers to get it fully functioning. There are some Alpha and Beta releases of CM9 out there. These releases are coming from a development TEAM. The TEAM for the DX2 is one, damn awesome, developer. DragonZKiller! Hashcode is helping where he can, but he remains the lead CM9 developer for other platforms. I'm helping when I can (even though I don't code or program). It will take time. CM7 wasn't developed overnight, or in a couple of weeks either. Especially when the code changed from Froyo to Gingerbread. Keep this in mind. :D

As of my last test build from dragonzkiller, there were some where in the neighborhood of 13-15 items on the "do not work" punch list. Since then (about 2 weeks have transpired since that build) he has fixed a good number of these items. I haven't received another test build to test out, however, I am confident that things will progress.

Also, keep in mind that dragonzkiller is developing the cm9 ROM in his spare time. He has other commitments that are much more important to him. Give him breathing room, time, and the space to do what he does best.

I for one, am grateful that we have a committed developer for the DX2. I know he will post things via twitter (@dragonzkiller or http://www.twitter.com/#dragonzkiller) when he has something to share.

Ciao!
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
I still have yet to figure out ICS' big features. I tried an ics theme on ADW launcher and it looked ok. Being able to simply drag icons together to make folded was kinda cool but aside from that, I really don't know.

I'm not trying damn ics at all, I'd just like to know what it actually does for me other than providing me with the latest and greatest thing.
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
I just posted a new thread concerning ICS on Motorola devices. Yesterday, I sent another email to Motorola support tactfully complaining about their lack of information updates on ICS for the X2 and the whole unlocked bootloader issue. I informed them that unlike their previous responses stating that my complaints are sent to another department that handles my issues, I've never received any type of response from said departments. I explained how I was done with trying to get any kind of response on the lack of support for the X2 and that I was taking my complaint to the BBB. I filed my complaint last night.

Today, I got a response back from the BBB stating that my case has been reviewed and has been forward to Motorola for their response.

Lo and behold, on Twitter about 41 minutes ago, they tweeted that they update their ICS schedule. Here is the schedule link:

http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/02/15/update-motorola-ice-cream-sandwich-news/

The devices that are to receive ICS in the 3rd quarter of 2012 are as follows:

DROID BIONIC

DROID RAZR

DROID RAZR MAXX

MOTOROLA RAZR

DROID 4

PHOTON 4G

MOTOROLA ATRIX 4G (AT&T)

ATRIX 2

ELECTRIFY

Of course, no X2. However, they provide a link to the rest of the devices and their schedules which is at this link:

https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c

The Droid X2, for a long time, was listed as having been updated to 2.3.4 with no other scheduled releases. Now, it's this way:

Device Name: Droid X2

Country: USA

Current Phase: Evaluation & Planning

Expected Timing: Further details to follow.

So, we still are not guaranteed ICS, but at least they finally updated their page. We'll still wait and see what happens with my BBB complaint and if I ever get a response back from Motorola. I demanded that they give them correct contact information in regards to ICS upgrades for X2 and unlocking the bootloaders.
[Motorola Droid X2] CadenH:
There's a lot more to ics than the folders. Im late for work but if someone else doesn't chime in before I get out I will list some features. Its completely different in so many ways
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
The kernel itself has been rewritten from what I understand, hence the better multitasking and apparently, HDMI as well. Also, hardware acceleration is built into ICS now. This means a lot of the graphical rendering will be offloaded off of the CPU and put onto the GPU itself. This should remove a lot of lag that people experience at times with games on Droids.

So, appearance is one thing. Performance, from better multitasking, is at the kernel level.
[Motorola Droid X2] CadenH:
If we get that ota 4.0 we can have cm9 with a proper kernel too
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
And that's a biggie. Even without an unlocked bootloader, dzk could really hammer out some major details with CM9. But, we have to wait and see what Motorola will do. As it is, the Droid 3 and Bionic are slated to get ICS in the 3rd quarter of 2012. But, that is just an estimate. Who knows what issues they might run into since ICS was just released by Google and that's for bare-bone phones. Anything else that requires some tweaking based on the hardware, like the CPU and GPU and others, just makes things that much harder for the devs.
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
I'm waiting for CM9 from Dragonzkiller. The day we get it, I will email/tweet and generally spam Motorola and show them just how useless they are for taking so long to release ICS onto our Droid X2 when a single guy did it months earlier in the form of CM9!