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[Eee Pad Transformer General] karapoutsoglou:
Come on Asus....i am a loyal fan of your products well....since 1996 i guess.

Dont leave me dissapointed now,in old age :P
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ckoadiyn:
In a way ics was built for tf101 as the gn has a Tegra 2 processor
[Eee Pad Transformer General] richteralan:
So how does delaying an update correlates to a non-rushed update?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Spartoi:
No it doesn't.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stenc55:
Maybe they delayed update becouse they didn't want to rush with bad update?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] richteralan:
Well you must be ASUS's head Android developer!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] reaperzero:
and here is to another pile of miserable whining when they arent able to launch the update in time >_>
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stenc55:
Sorry, no. Im ordinary person working for goverment. Have nothing to do with Asus exept having one of their product. And as IT specialist in goverment I'm too tired of rushed and not enough developed software. Had too much headache already, I don't need another one.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Danzano:
If you are an I.T goverment specialist you have knowledge why are you not building aosp???

Thats what i thought so leave these other people alone and wait till there is a update you want.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] reaperzero:
=_= lets leave the whiners and emodroids alone >_> if they wanna gripe till the end of the earth then let them

my advice to those griping about ICS for the TF101

get a damned ipad already >_>
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stenc55:
I have life. I have family. I have patience. I don't have knowledge or time to learn how to coock proper 100% working ROM. If you think it is so simple, be my guest, do it yourself. After all, it is you who want it, not me.

These other people want to f**k up 1'6M other people simply becouse they can't wait another week. Of those 1.6M people, 95% of them has never seen xda, don't even know coocked roms exists, less they know how to manualy flash or recover their TF. They are users. Nothing more. They paid for their TF's and they want them working 100%.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Woody:
I think that this is what it really boils down to. Does your mom or brother or neighbor even know that XDA, androidforums or even phandroid are? Doubt it very much. Not everyone is a poweruser like we are. They buy a product expecting to download some apps, watch a show on Netflix or pull a recipe off Epicurious. These are the people that buy products AND insurance. These are the people that will ***** up a storm at their local retailer, who inturn will relay that to ASUS.

Normal users are ignorant to what we do. Remember the first time you got in a bootloop? Scary few hours, eh? We can get into recovery and nandroid or flash a custom / stock ROM. We are not however the target demographic that ASUS is marketing and developing for. I agree with Luna. Lets have a stable ROM.

One of my fellows from another forum got a Prime, updated it and soft -bricked it in under and hour. He hadn't even rooted yet. Ill take stability any day of the week. Been on a kanged ICS on phone for awhile and troubleshooting is a PITA for multiple builds.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Danzano:
Most these people are not asking for official but an official leak like what samsung seems to be doing often lately
[Eee Pad Transformer General] EP2008:
Wow, lots of complaints.

Let's not forget that Asus isn't delaying this ics release so they can make it better, they told us a month ago that it was finished and needed "approval" from Google before releasing it.

It is what it is when we get it... whenever that might be.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] BeavermanA:
Quick question.

If I'm rooted and running a custom ROM, how will the OTA ics update work? Or will I even get the notification?

I got an OTA update notification a few months back, but I ignored it cause I wasn't sure what would happen while running a custom rom.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Buckii:
Well put... I think to myself that I will see it by end of the month... Any how that's my opinions there
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stenc55:
That's what I tried to talk about. I can't imagine seeing my father rescuing bad flashed TF, but I can clearly see him throwing same badly flashed TF into the concrete wall.

And yes, I do remember my first bootloop. It happened on i900 Omnia. :D Can't describe how I felt. For half an hour my only thought was "OMG, I just made 400€ brick. Wife is gonna kill me!"
[Eee Pad Transformer General] sidneyk:
I was just on Asus support website for the US and took a look at the available downloads for the TF201, for curiosity sake. It looks like the TF201 has had 3 downloadable ICS updates already, with the last one just a couple days ago. I think they have their concentration focused on getting things more stable for the TF201 first before they push out ICS for TF101 - one headache at a time or something.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stcardinal:
They have abandoned us original users.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Aelyus:
This, with this, everyone's argument of "waiting for a stable release" falls to the ground in pieces.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] KingDavid63:
is that my avi picture? j/k im the only evil guy with a black background around here... :)

Sent from my Revolver Powered Asus Transformer
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Tubular:
No, unless you lack the ability to read.

The argument has been stated repeatedly and not one person has yet to refute it. There is no evidence that any of the time being spent on waiting is being used to work on the TF101 ICS update

at all

. Find me this evidence or anything else is just dogma.

Again, the quality of the update is not a function of how long it takes for them to release the update. For all you know they could be doing nothing and working on the TF201 only, simply delaying the patch for marketting reasons. Does waiting one year and doing absolutely nothing with an update magically make an update more stable? That's what you're suggesting. Asus can sit on this update for a year and not work on it and people like you will naively think it assumes they were working on it. They put out a lot of statements stating an estimation of the general release date but they've yet to put out why the release dates are being changed.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] scottyf79:
being realistic.........by this time next year probably the majority will have changed the tf101 for something more up to date. its the nature of the beast. So in the short term ICS is relevant to us - but the bigger picture would suggest it means jack ****. The moaning and groaning is pointless and fruitless.

Almost every other Android tablet owner outwith the Asus TF will have aged a year before they get ICS........be greatful Asus arent as slow as that.

Its easy enough for an Asus update to go tits up...........so why not have a go at putting Paul Burtons ICS build on your Tf's just now and give it a break in the mean time.:D

*** Warning its bad ***or you can watch my pants you tube video of the build running on my TF to keep you dreaming nice dreams lol - (page 2 of pauls ics build thread in general section)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] bosotros:
With the ICS rollout for the Prime, plus the three bug fixes including the new one that is a huge download, maybe Asus is concerned about crashing their servers and corrupting files. Apple had a major problem with the initial rollout of IOS5.

Asus might be waiting so the server load will be more predictable and more manageable. Get the Prime upgrades out of the way before opening the floodgates on the TF101. If so, the latest bugfix firmware for the Prime may have delayed our turn.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mudvaynemk:
I was hoping that today would be the release date. I could have sworn that I read somewhere that the 12th would be the date, but I haven't heard anything about that since.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ericshmerick:
With all the rebooting issues on the Prime, I'd put my money on Asus worrying about jacking up the TF101 with ICS. This probably explains the root of the delay.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] MrDamnation:
Chrome is the other. I really hope they have add-ons.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dbmuller:
The ASUS G+ page confirms a Feb update (Can't post link due to post count)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Danzano:
Disturbed just called and asked me to tell you your not :P
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Rumbleweed:
Posted previously and probably as accurate as the two dozen or so other dates from them.:p
[Eee Pad Transformer General] habylab:
It's not that I haven't got any optimism, but I reckon it will be late February early March now. They will announce before hand the date of release most likely, and they still haven't.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] raduque:
This reminds of when I first tried to flash a rom to my myTouch 4G Slide.

Reboot into recovery using ADB

Attempt flash, get failure

Format /system (per instructions on XDA due to updater script not doing it)

Flash zip "Error in zip!"

"Oh crap! Restore nandroid backup, Stat!"

Nandroid restore stop midway through, no error, just stopped copying and returned to CWM menu

"ohcrapohcrapohcrapohcrapohcrap"

Attemped everything, including using ADB to push an extracted nandroid backup to /system

"Error writing to /system"

*Phone proceeds to disconnect from PC and CWM reboots"

I proceed to **** bricks for at least 20 minutes

I finally fixed it by calming down and rebooting into recovery manually using the buttons, and from there I was able to restore my Nandroid ( to test if it still worked), then I was able to flash the rom.

This was not my first time flashing, either, I've been doing it since the HTC Sapphire/ADP2/myTouch 3G. First time I ever nuked my /system partition, though.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Malandro2011:
lol

I remember the feeling when my TF wouldn't start once after flashing

We need a new thread with all these experiences for a laugh
[Eee Pad Transformer General] yokem55:
That's nothing. The other night I was going back and forth between GB and ICS roms for my Incredible and ended up with the dreaded '5 Vibes of Death' on bootup. Couldn'get into recovery, couldn't boot... And the instructions for completing the recovery only worked with a GB rom loaded. Got it straightened out, but I was sweating bullets for a while...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] luna_c666:
At least my days of having to microsolder are over (for now)..

The fun days of modding xboxes by having to manually open them to connect solder bridges in order to enable flashing them..lifting traces and almost putting the devices into clockloops- I remember once I flashed a ROM that would search for a directory, only I used the / instead of \ when compiling the batch operation and put it into a bootloop :rolleyes: ..we have it super easy on these phones..no lead fumes to speak of (unless you are doing it wrong).. :p

Oh yeah..and DREADING updates to the software- as opposed to whining because they aren't here before everyone else...lol
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stenc55:
Agree! :D

Those were unforgetable moments!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] chatch15117:
So, Mid February, we meet again. No ICS update?

What a surprise!?!!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kvizz:
Not mid feb yet!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] outpox:
Wait until tomorrow at least. It's not mid february yet :p
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Lutherian:
AsusFrance said on Twitter that ICS for TF101 is coming... today !

@PrettyRonaldo : @AsusFrance >> C'est quand la mise à jour ICS sur la Transformer?

@AsusFrance : @PrettyRonaldo >> lundi

Translation :

- When the ICS update will be available for the Transformer ?

- Monday (it's today !).

I'm currently at work without my EEE Pad :(...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] danne82a:
Really hope thats true would be awesome :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] The-Kevster:
It says ICS update not necessarily ICS for TF101. Could be the latest update for the Prime he was referring to.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] asder00:
Was intended for prime :D... tf101 still end of feb
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Lutherian:
Yes, I'm sorry, Asus just confirmed me it was for the Prime... :(
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Aelyus:
I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume you're trolling me and not unable to read.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] flumpster:
ASUS United Kingdom

Morning all. Hope everyone had a good weekend? To update you on the ... update situations.

The TF101 ICS update is still expected in February - exact date is not available to us at the moment. As always, when we have a specific date we will let you know.

As for the TF201 FOTA update, we expected that at the end of last week but due to a couple of issues this has had to be pushed back. We apologise for any inconvenience and particularly getting your hopes up on Friday. A rescheduled release date will be announced shortly.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] danne82a:
Darn i had my hopes up for tomorrow.....
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Dial your hopes back to mid-late March, and you'll be less likely to be disappointed.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] reaperzero:
you forgot to add 2013

then if it comes soon i will be happy :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Android Revolution:
Wow, so the new Acer Iconia just got the ICS update today. ASUS let Acer beat them on ICS roll outs? Sad...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] raid76:
this is what asus said few hours ago!!!!

ASUS United Kingdom

Morning all. Hope everyone had a good weekend? To update you on the ... update situations.

The TF101 ICS update is still expected in February - exact date is not available to us at the moment. As always, when we have a specific date we will let you know.

As for the TF201 FOTA update, we expected that at the end of last week but due to a couple of issues this has had to be pushed back. We apologise for any inconvenience and particularly getting your hopes up on Friday. A rescheduled release date will be announced shortly.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] 2011CorvetteZR1:
ASUS will drag the date out until all the Transformers are sold, this is a marketing scam to get everyone to purchase all the Transformers left in stock because nobody would buy one if the product was publically announced that it is OEM DISCONTINUED. They got your money already, nothing in it for them now. CEO's of corporations do not care about yesterday. Mine work well and does everything I need, if you want ICS then buy the next generation, or the one after that because GPS doesn't work well behind a metal shield in the current Prime. Think about it - does ASUS care about the GPS not working? All they did was to remove it from the specifications - there are plenty in the warehouse and they got to be sold so give them ICS and hush-hush about the GPS. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY, nothing else.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] No_u:
If all they care about is money they would update it as quickly as possible because this affects the amount of people that will buy the next generation transformer.. Lots of people would give up Asus if they wouldn't update it. Besides, there's still loads of them in stock.. You are really really narrow-minded.
[HTC Wildfire S] zegi69:
so is there a way to increase system volume on rooted or nonroted phone? My sound on headphones is low and on the speaker is not much better.
[HTC Wildfire S] the Doctor:
Yes, install PowerAMP from Android Market and use the preamp and equalizer. It should help a lot.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9
[HTC Wildfire S] zegi69:
i have that and its ok when playing from poweramp apk but is there a way to increase SYSTEM volume so in every apk sound is louder?
[HTC Wildfire S] tokswager:
Might want to check this Volume+ you can even download it for free if you visit the dev's site...:rolleyes:
[HTC Wildfire S] uruh:
thank you very much. i was looking for something like this..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] prananas:
Hello.

Have you heard or seen anything about reasonable non-operating temperatures?

For example it should take my GN 3-4 workdays to make its way (using courier) in EU. However it gets as low as -30 Celsius at nights (-22 Fahrenheit). Essentially I am worried about potential harm (even though not major) to the device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chaotix555:
At very low temperatures the main thing affected is likely to be the battery, it will probably not hold a charge for as long as it should. Another possible problem can be condensation if the device goes from very cold to room temperature. Most electronics can handle temperatures 30 below freezing for short periods, prolonged exposure might cause problems though.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sebvass:
Sorry but I didn't find the answer. After rooting on this new rom, I can't move any apps on the sdcart via the app manager... how can I do ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dsbnz:
Have a look on the first page (main post) of the rom thread. Details of activating a2sd are there (need to use terminal emulator).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sebvass:
Thanks ! I've just install a2sd but the "move to SD card" option is still in grey...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
Because you did not understand how A2SD works.

When using A2SD, all apps you install will be automatically moved to an EXT-partition on your SD card (SD-EXT). It does not matter, if the dev of the app programmend the app for moving it to SD or not.

Android can only differentiate between "apps on internal memory" and "apps on FAT32-partition" of SD card". Which means with A2SD, although apps are installed on SD-EXT, Android still thinks it's installed in internal memory (and some data of the app still remains on internal memory; that's not fault, it's just how A2SD works).

By using the "move to SD card" option in application settings you move the apps from internal memory to FAT32-partition. BUT NEVER DO THAT WHEN USING A2SD!! It could cause very strange and serious issues. Furthermore, to move that option the app has to be programmed for that by its dev.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sebvass:
Oh ok !!!! Thank you very much!!!! Merci !!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
Instead of saying thanks, please use the thanks-button (or at least additionally). ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arma84:
Just to clarify this for myself...

I was using GingerVillian 3.3 (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=880465&page=1149) and had apps2sd set up on there. When I installed an app (i.e. Facebook) I could move it to my SD card by clicking the button, which I couldn't do beforehand.

I have installed this version of ICS for Desire (BETA 0.3.8.1) and activated the a2sd. I now can't install my apps to the SD card using the button in the same way as I could previously, so I thought it wasn't working.

So I guess my questions are:

1. is apps2sd different to a2sd?

2. as far as i know, i didn't wipe my ext3 partition, so my old apps are possibly still there - could this be a problem?

3. does it seem like my a2sd is working?

Thanks.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
1. No. app2sd is the Android-version of moving apps to SD, A2SD is the script I wrote about some posts above yours.

For the rest read my post. Your questions were answered, even though not directly.

To check if A2SD works, open terminal emulator on phone and post the output of this commands here:

su
ls -l /data
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arma84:
a/local/bin:$PATH <

app_58@android:/ $ su

app_58@android:/ # ls -l /data

drwxrwxrwx root root 2012-02-02 22:37 app

drwxrwx--x system system 2012-02-01 21:51 app-private

drwx------ system system 2012-02-02 13:41 backup

drwxrwxrwx system system 2012-02-02 22:37 dalvik-cache

drwxrwx--x system system 2012-02-02 22:37 data

drwxr-x--- root log 2012-02-01 21:30 dontpanic

drwxrwxr-- drm drm 2012-02-01 21:41 drm

drwxrwx--x shell shell 2012-02-01 21:30 local

drwxrwx--- root root 2012-02-01 21:30 lost+found

drwxrwx--t system misc 2012-02-02 22:32 misc

drwx------ root root 2012-02-02 13:41 property

drwxrwx--x system system 2012-02-01 21:30 resource-cache

drwxrwxr-x system system 2012-02-02 22:38 system

drwxr-xr-x system system 2012-02-01 22:28 tombstones

drwxr-xr-x system system 2012-02-01 21:30 user

app_58@android:/ #

Thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
A2SD is not activated. First boot into recovery and wipe your SD-EXT. Then check the ICS-thread again and double-check you used the correct commands for activating A2SD. If you sure you did everything right, run the commands above again and post the output here a second time.
[HTC EVO 3D] ssojyeti2:
You sir, a a born philosopher.
[HTC EVO 3D] drivenapollo:
Nicely said.

Evo 3D taking it to Redline!
[HTC EVO 3D] eXplicit815:
TL,DR..................................
[HTC EVO 3D] megabiteg:
Agreed in full.

PS. The first one to flame should get banned from XDA! and their phone removed by the FBI...

lol
[HTC EVO 3D] bloodrain954:
Meh, its still just a phone, the "phone" has just evolved. All technology has a 2 year cycle. And as long as you have to go through a carrier, they will be able to tell you what you can and cannot do.
[HTC EVO 3D] YoMaMa7467:
Cool Story Bro. Now seriously, you may have a point there athough if this did happen we would probably end up laying full price for our phones. Where do you ever see a desktop with 250 instant savings if you setup Verizon home and phone service in your area. It's an iffy situation. Once we call these "phones" computers they will end up being treated as such. I can't imagine how much the cost of an app would go up just because my phone is no longer considered a mobile platform.
[HTC EVO 3D] mingolianbeef:
The phone is simply no longer a phone. With the recent software that allows us to run x86 OS's in your hand with nothing more than a disk image and a text edit, the term "PC in your hand" is indeed a reality. As this wonderful visionary has so stated in so many words, where does the line that separates computer and phone begin and end. And the simple answer is, it doesn't begin or end because it doesn't exist.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bacardi222:
sameasdislololol
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
ha, if you think you aren't paying full price for your phone through the back door (your monthly bill) you are fooling yourself. they compensate themselves greatly with that little rebate you "save"

my point is simply that our "phones" are not phones anymore. they are computers. i have a phone, at my house, and it makes phone calls. what it doesn't do is keep me logged into skype, facebook, twitter, my email accounts, my netflix account, my pandora account, my bank account, or record pictures, videos, then allow me to do much of that stuff at the same time and in a timely manner.... much like my lap top does.

i was on a little bit of a stick it to the man kick last night i'll admit...lol... but really ask yourselves, "is he right here?" i think so. it would not be a stretch at all to say our personal mobile computers are being monopolized and freedoms are being infringed upon simply because we have been told to call these mobile computers "phones"...

have they evolved from what they were? certainly. i remember when my cell phone was simply a cell phone. the reality is that i use my phone for things i used to use my computer for.... as somebody said before, that line between phone and computer has been quickly fading and is nearly gone, so why treat our phones any different than we would a computer? and why shouldn't we expect nothing less than complete and utter personal privacy for these devices? and just as you buy a desktop or lap top and have entire administrative control over it, why is this not being allowed on these ones that are hand held? it is a sick double standard that is there to simply control what you do with the device. the fact is, people would be in an uproar if companies such as dell, or gateway, or apple, or comcast, etc treated you and your desk top the way you are being treated with your "cell phone"