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[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Bakuron:
Whilst I have no intentions of defending corporate money-making, I'm not sure what anyone could have expected regarding Android producing a flurry of different operating systems. Since the idea of a smartphone started becoming commercially viable the investment in the HARDWARE and subsequent progression from sub 1ghz processors to quad-core 2ghz processors and 3000mah batteries was BOUND to necessitate new Operating Systems.

It's not a case of focusing on the most expensive handsets, it's just a case of competing in an incredibly fast expanding marketplace. We are at the initial stages still of a huge big-bang in, essentially, portable computing technology.

I wouldn't mind betting that most of the 'cutting edged' stuff released in 2012 will be considered relatively obsolete by 2013's 'cutting edge' standards - but you couldn't say that Gingerbread on a SGA was obsolete by comparison to the latest high-end handset in 2012.

Mainly because it can do all the basics you could possibly want from a portable computer at this stage in technological developments. Office-management, Communications-management, and even Rudimentary entertainment that covers all known spectrums. Something like a gingerbread-ace is like the smartphone equivalent of the invention of 'the wheel'.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ino-xda:
It's about BSP (Board Support Package). Yes it's easy to make a Linux, but you need to know exactly which version of which device connects to which pins of the MPU/CPU. And these HW specs are proprietary and not easy to reverse engineer, everything being SMD on a tiny, multilayer PCB.

The Samsung software guys get a BSP: all specs of the hardware plus a number of generic drivers and libs. We don't, and may even be prohibited by law or license to reverse engineer.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] chrcol:
Bakuron yeah but we are seeing handsets still been sold right now at this very day been refused these software upgrades, that to me is wrong. There is a problem that if the technologoy is moving so fast that even handsets been sold now are considered obselete for software support.

The phone market to me seems weird, in personal computing high end hardware isnt the main market, it has low volume of sales, the volume is in mid and low end whilst high end is for niche customers. With high end phones costing £500+ I expected the same but it seems on smartphones the high end is the main market as thats getting all the software focus.

I got android sold to me on the basis that it gets the software updates that apple doesnt get, I have had my phone for 4 weeks and the first update to come since I brought it isnt available for it.

I expect CM9 to actually eventually come to the ace, I think they will figure it out eventually, just samsung's decision has made it a hard task for them thats all.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Bakuron:
You are right. And I do agree that Samsung are guilty of market spiel. But then they are a succesful major company for a reason - they can lie brilliantly. Steve Jobs was the world leader in brilliant lies.

You might be interested to see that smartphones are now massively outselling PCs - bit.ly/AA9L9I - they are becoming the primary computing tool in many peoples lives. I expect this conversion will reach critical mass in the next year or two - things will then have to settle down because Google will not be able to cope under the strain of juggling too many balls (OS's) at once.

I've been developing an app for 2.3.3 and google are constantly reminding devs about a) obsolete coding and b) how apps designed on later versions are not backwards compatible.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] zizkorr:
HTC dream It's getting unofficial ICS too.

Enviado desde mi GT-S5830 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
....exactly .

Herpderp Defy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] :
Guys, what's so great about ICS? it is just new "eye candy" IMO. What new functional features does it even offer? Data usage logging.... that can be done with a 3rd party app... I would like to know what it is in the case I am simply missing something...

To me new UI is not a reason to buy a new phone, but to most people it seems to be enough to convince them. On PC, phone, or whatever. I still use it just the same, talk to the same people, go onto the same websites, ect.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Bakuron:
There are definitely better reasons to buy tech than its OS but compatibility is something that will now be stretched to the limit in this market. As I said earlier apps built in 4.0 development aren't backwards compatible and 'the cutting edge' is perceived to be moving at a rate of knots possibly leading to entirely new formats.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] secmentor:
Thats great news thanks !!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] sanket90:
Thanks

Its great news..:D:D:D:D

yeppii.!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Drozdii:
Maybe it will be better than any unofficial ROM. I hope so, truly
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ino-xda:
I myself think you're right re. "eye candy", but for data logging the interface has to be in place. For example, name a decent 3rd party app for wireless traffic logging! I only found a "tcpdump" binary version 4.0.0 usable from a shell window, no "wireshark" or anything working reliably on the Ace.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] chrcol:
so we may start seeing apps ICS only that wont work on gingerbread?

Its no real surprise more phones are sold than pcs especially as one would have to keep replacing their phone to have the latest software on it (As we seeing with ICS).

Although its less clear if people are using phones as their primary internet tool, I use my pc as my primary internet tool and the phone to me is still mainly a toy although it will be used to read my email when I am travelling as well as for specific internet uses whilst out as well.

I am going off topic somewhat here tho so will shut up :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] madman:
even after updating those high end phones to ics there would be most of phone user base on GB and Froyo as it is right now... not all will upgrade devices..

so app compatibility won't be much of issue for atleast 1 to 2 years when we see 5.0 making space and people upgrade devices
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hordal:
So does it mean that there will be an end of all these unofficial and "beta" CM 7.2 Roms and modded Roms that always are quite nice but not ready for "woman" usage?

that would make me quite happy
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pranoy407:
Thread should be renamed as "expect official CM in months"
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] evil_penguin:
haha:p

its killing me...how long ?:p

for last 6 months i know ace is going to get CM7.2 but never released..

but patient is key to success :D:)

i am happy with other roms made by developers ..i will stay with that;)till the official one comes...may be next year lol :p:cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pranoy407:
By the time Official CM comes we''ll be playing with custom roms based on CM9 :P
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] evil_penguin:
Haha...lol :D

nice one :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] mdfzhi:
or move to another badass highend phone.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Bakuron:
Better than another 'i cant wait, my head might pop' post.

With smartphones ppl are making a Faustian pact. They no longer have to sit down by themselves at a PC to do most of the stuff most ppl do on PCs. Equally they never ever get away from the internet or looking at a screen.

Id be surprised if eventually there wasnt demand for cell-capable tablets (even tho much communication is moving towards pure data / Skype)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] evilxdeadly:
hope they will fix wakeup delay
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] spritecharm:
Awesome, can't wait.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ErKo_Ace:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1490867&page=50

patches r coming for beta 1 (Y) :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] DrizztDWX:
finally :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] das.dian24:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable

They've released new devices..but still no COOPER found..:(
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] bowbow:
dream come true :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hmzuleta:
Those are updates from 2011... none are 7.2 if you check the file versions.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Paoh:
those anybody know the exact date?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] RealVishnu14:
****. I cant wait :D. It will be Awesome.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] DrizztDWX:
I have a feeling that we will never live to see
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] madman:
all those in the thread who are saying that they are not working and we will never get official then have look at this github

https://github.com/teamhacksung/android_device_samsung_cooper

teamhacksung which is one maintaining cm for samsung is active in cooper and squadzone and axel seems to be working instead of coolya [for now]...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexnm:
I read that they were facing serios financial problems, and that's why almost every device's developpement was in stand-by. They are better now, and problably in a week or so everything is going to be back to normal again.

Sorry, I can't find references in English.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Cryss:
I'm sure anybody understand that they facing financial problems but how can we donate to them when there's no Cyanogen available for us ! ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] hmzuleta:
Good point.

---------- Post added at 05:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:27 PM ----------

31,939 installs for the cooper. What now? :confused:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] iandol:
So I wonder why is this not specified in the gingerbread android XML build files for CM7.2? There is nothing I can see in the gingerbread cyanogenmod sources linking to teamhacksung or squadzone's android_device_samsung_cooper repos?

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android/blob/gingerbread/default.xml

Also, most devices have a CM fork of the device files back in the CM organisation, but cooper doesn't. There is nothing in the build tree as far as I can see, though I don't know the specifics of what gets pulled from where. Does anyone know any more of how anything done by teamhacksung could get linked to CM for official building. All we have so far is one line in an uncommited changelog...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] evil_penguin:
soon we going to get MIUI v4 port still no official cyanogenmod lol:p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] fantomatico:
Official MIUI?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Bakuron:
Wasn't it from their Google+ where they were looking for donations to buy some servers? Donations which they received within hours of asking. And I think that was just for their nightly releases rather than any wider issue.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] evil_penguin:
no unofficial port by TeamCooper:)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] julieace:
i guess with the availability of CM 7.2 (unofficial), especially with latest updates of 17th and 19th feb we should just relax and wait for CM 9 development.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] syed.sayeed96:
Herpderp? R u a redditor? Me too!!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Lmao not really.....just a normal guy who goes with the flow :(

Herpderp Defy.

We could have had it allllllllllllllllllllll

Rolling in the deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Thirumalai.K:
Galaxy Ace Added.....

Check it out:

There is a device name called Samsung Galaxy Ace as well as Cooper

<project path="device/samsung/cooper" name="CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_cooper" />

<project path="device/samsung/galaxyace" name="CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_galaxyace" />

But, Which one is for Galaxy Ace.?

Could be Galaxy ACE..?

And reason behind this delay is that the current server load.

They have achieved their goal in collecting funds and they are about purchase new servers.

Check their blog:

cyanogenmod.com/blog
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] iandol:
Yes but my point is there is no such cyanogemmod repositories that exist if you search github, there are 3 samsung_cooper (coolya, lagloose and hydraosp) and one samsung_galaxyace (ilarrain) repo. The author I assumed was a cyanogemmodder, coolya, hasn't updated since 8 months ago, hardly good news for active development...

Are teamhacksung "official" cyanogenmod developers (the changelog is silent in the acknowledgements...)?

An important note is that those devs who make the unofficial ports for us are much more active, for example see all the activity here:

https://github.com/GalaxyTeam/android_device_samsung_cooper

So looking at the source, the evidence is that official cooper CM7.2 is not build-able even when CM get their new servers, the uncommitted change-log is meaningless at the moment... :(
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
You guys should chill and settle for the currenr ROMs first

Herpderp Defy.

We could have had it allllllllllllllllllllll

Rolling in the deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] chrcol:
Have CM stated why the ACE has been ignored by them? I found out in the UK it has outsold the galaxy S and S II. So its not as if its a unpopular phone. Is it because all CM devs only have highend phones?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Probably so . And also because they are busy with CM9

Herpderp Defy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ace_viknesh:
Well then, MaClaw is the only hope!! :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] panoc:
It'll be great to have an official CM7 (hopefully stable). I've tried an unofficial version (cm-7.2.0-RC0-GalaxyAce-KANG-signed) and it's pretty cool although google apps get fc's and Wifi is going Scanning-Disconnected forever (still haven't found a solution for this). Looking forward for it!:D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] iandol:
...trust the source...

Macław is not actively developing CM7.2 IINM? As neither vo-1 not FAT tell us where their source comes from, we don't know whose device repo they are using!!! :mad:

Note that there is lots of official activity for CM7.2:

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,branch:gingerbread,n,z

They are not preoccupied by CM9...

I just think they don't have an official Ace developer or any device repos for their source repository at the moment, so cannot build an official ROM for it. Until we see an official samsung_cooper repo, we can't expect a build, nightly, release candidate or otherwise...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] PabloPL:
Did you saw https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_cooper ?

I know it hasn't been updated for some time, but with this they can create working builds.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] iandol:
Actually no I hadn't, this is a fork of teamhacksung, which is a fork of coolya, I'd only followed the forks one level deep, not 2 ;-)

https://github.com/teamhacksung/android_device_samsung_cooper/network

So CM could pull from teamhacksung repo which is ~15days since last commit, pretty fresh. OK, so as long as they pull and merge, the official ROM may not be ridiculously out-of-date. :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Robbang:
I had the same problem when i flashed cm 7.2. Here is what helped me: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=22520348#post22520348
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Never trusted him anyway

Herpderp Defy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Bakuron:
Galaxy Ace owners force Dev into early retirement :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Hatshipuh:
That's what you get for spam-asking for ETA I guess.

Tap-a-talked from my Galaxy Ace
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] slatis:
That's the same guy that said that Galaxy Ace wouldn't be able to run ICS, and now we got 2 betas and tomorrow we will get a new one. So screw him! Like others said, I never trusted him.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
A message to coolya (Kolja):

Screw you .

Go ahead , stop working on Android .

We don't care much :)

Herpderp Defy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] iandol:
No wonder developers jump ship with childish namecalling like this. Why not just respect people for what they can/have done (I see coolya has contributed many more commits on public repositories than those calling him names here), and let people lead their lives when they want to move on without being judgmental...

Lets get back to the topic at hand, still no pulls from teamhacksung...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Lol who can't make their own repo ?

Herpderp Defy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] axelroll:
i know, but...

i know that this isnt importan, but what is Herpderp Defy?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] catapult1234:
LOL i see you found out how to do that. You have 25!

Difference is, that Kolja actually can code. You are just copying things from ppl who can actually code (including Kolja's work, so whats with the big mouth here?).

Arrogance all over the place when you speak, blergh.

Cheers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
I didn't take everything .

Look I'm just 15 almost to 16 , he's like 30 or so ?

I will learn coding next year.....so I'm not being arrogant .

Take a look at my galaxyr repo .

Herpderp Defy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
My XDA App signature .

Herpderp Defy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] radamantis007:
there is any way to know if official cm7 project for ace still stands

sorry for my bad english
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] AlexCro:
im still waiting from any word bout update :/
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] catapult1234:
I never trusted him bla bla

So screw him bla bla bla.

We dont care that he leaves bla bla bla..

He has earned his stripes in android world. Talking about him like that behind his back is arrogant...but you know what i mean.

If it wasnt for ketut or kolja or mclaw or any other REAL dev, you would have noting to do. There would be nothing to kang or copy and paste.

That's why i call you arrogant.

Cheers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
LOL K

Dude , I don't really care .

I'm sorry that your country has no freedom of speech and I'm sorry that you're so pissy .

Herpderp Defy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alldine345:
i miss the time when xda is the place to search and sharing knowledge, not for dumb people who kicking their ass each other. dont you remember guys? whe had a lot of warning from moderator, some developers goes away, and now what?? i am not developer, modder, or whatevers you people call it. just wanna this subforum ( samsung galaxy ace S5830 ) being like another subforum, where we can sharing each other, learning something new, and another funny stuff. yeah, there is a lot of trollers out there, but trust me their stupidy has limit.

i'm not sorry for my english. i had D in my last exam.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ashok_jigsaw:
There are quite a few developers here who can only mod stuff created by real dev. But still the way they talk, you want to kick their asses :D

Real dev don't talk much :)

P.S - Never mind. They are 14,15 years old kids.. What else can we expect :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] raffamaiden:
someone know ETA for official CM?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] iandol:
according to cyanogen twitter feed on Jan 12th: "Basically @CM_arcee added a whole bunch of LG devices, and we are just stabilizing those before the 7.2 release."

So basically WIR, though still no work on the Cooper repository for months, and no official cooper maintainer added to changelog yet...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
allmost all devs here are 14/20 -_-

dont fight be happy

this is only sometimes wich is digital

care about real life be an human and be happy get kids marry

and have an happy life

and let all digital stuff behind (what will never happen in future because everything goes digital )
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] horatiob:
I did this to the black one I have... I hope you like the white edition... Please let me know what you think...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] yalkowni:
I like it! I'm thinking about getting one. Is it hard to put on?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] dungtran88:
I wish I can make it look that good.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] oktavianno:
i like it !!!

_____________________________________

Samsung Galaxy Ace

CM7 7.2 Deodexed

zimage kernel + v6 supercharger + turboboost
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gokhansancar:
where did you get this white carbon back cover?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] horatiob:
I just purchased a role of this stuff then cut it with a razor blade and blow dryer to make the material more compliant.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] CB620:
I'm gonna tell you what I think....

I think you should sale it to me :-)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] horatiob:
I think you might be right.... ;-)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Wilsonium:
No fair... you tell us you bought a roll of it and DIY'd it without saying where you picked up a roll. Also, is it true carbon fibre or some sort of embossed plastic? either way both colors look great... I vote yes!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] J+Will:
Was going to do the same thing with red CF material! Happy to know it looks awesome. The guys that tinted my windows have a ton of this stuff, you guys asking might check places like that, or vinyl shops.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Kid Poker:
It looks better then the one from Phantom Skinz. Too bad I don't have enough time/patience to do it myself. I ended up picking up the whole carbon fiber skin for $17 shipped.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] minotauri:
carbon fiber is black. if it was white fiber, it's probably fiberglass, though it'd probably end up clear after curing, or nylon/polyester.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] talltexan:
Both are sexy as hell!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Teo032:
it's carbon fiber vinyl you guys can buy rolls of this stuff
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] kseries88:
it looks awesome.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] madman604:
Looks damn fine
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Staceymobiler:
Hi All

Once again thanks for watching my video and getting me tickets to MWC...but alas i have another issue. My Note has horrific battery life....practically about 8 hours.

I downloaded better battery stats and there are no major wakelocks going on...(just juice defender at 3.4% which i uninstalled anyway) ....any other ideas?

Any help would be appreciated, another Mobiler suggested i put a custom rom on...I'm just terrified of 'bricking' my phone lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] awesome-member:
This is perfectly average battery life for stock rom with moderate to heavy usage but if on light usage you might have some issues. Here is my battery like with heavy use.

Don't pay attention to people claiming Days of battery life they are simply not using the phone.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Slem101:
Battery life is certainly better than that on my old HTC Desire HD. Far better.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] EarlZ:
Maybe you could post up your betterybatterystats results?