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[Galaxy S II General] Entropy512:
They clearly don't - the reports of fuel_alerted wakelocks being encountered with the LPH kernel are clear evidence of this.

That bug was discovered, fully documented, and FIXED NEARLY FIVE MONTHS AGO - but it's still there in their kernel. Same with SoDs when frequency limits below 800 MHz are set, which has been known and documented for far longer.

If they were actually monitoring this community for testing feedback - those bugs would not still be there.

You can never do an OTA from a custom firmware... I don't see why people worry about this - if you're running custom firmware, there will be firmware based on whatever release you want to get OTA...
[Galaxy S II General] MistahBungle:
It's 05:40 10th March & no ICS...And there probably won't be ICS anytime soon...You've all been stooged.

Cue crying Samsung fanboys.....now !
[Galaxy S II General] :
It is 6.30PM on the 9th of March. GMT :-)
[Galaxy S II General] omegazin:
I heard Sammy's not releasing ICS tomorrow... Is that true?
[Galaxy S II General] Dark Emotion:
well.... It is true...
[Galaxy S II General] walidhiphop:
Good morning sir...what can i get you for this beautiful morning....coffee or tea.....

god damn it.......read the freakin' posts.........
[Galaxy S II General] aranab:
+1. What I don't understand is why Samsung are delaying it so much since (as someone pointed out) the source code has been around for a while and the majority like stock better than touchwiz
[Galaxy S II General] Monh3:
Agree with that! Every ICS touchWiz ROM i've flashed is a delusion! :S

Everything the same except few things
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
TW over ics is just muddering ics

I pooped after watching it on my phone
[Galaxy S II General] sxi200:
After having already tasted some ice cream, I most likely won't be making the switch even after it is officially released. Still on Checkrom v2 because it is setup exactly the way I want it.

When I stopped using the S1 in September last year, I was still on 2.2.1 docs rom even though there was much newer firmware available.

Doesn't mean I wont flash it just to see if I like it or not. That's the beauty of nandroid backups.

Sent from my GT-I9100T
[Galaxy S II General] chinmayanaokar:
Beta version already is out on samfirmware.com
[Galaxy S II General] more2come:
Who keeps downvoting harmless and quite informative threads?! We're not on reddit!

It's been lurking through the web that ICS will be released within the first quarter of 2012, but this is an official statement and for my part, I'm thankful for that.
[Galaxy S II General] eseregin:
I will never buy Samsung Android phone never again, even if it will has Pentium inside, and GeForce video... i dont care... i am starting realise that Samsung doing phones for blondes... and will do it. And stastic from Samy that only 5% users evere reflash roms - true. Here good programers working hard just to return Android like to sgs2! Yeah... i even realise now that dont need 2 core in cpu - complitly marketing... 1 gb ram - might be in ics will be usefull... End of March! For such a long time just to make Samy ****y software working on ics! In almost every custom Roms all samys progs removed! And thanks for it!

Touchwiz so ... so... behind for example Sense from Htc...

No, no mo Samsungs... will see what will be next Google phone may be....
[Galaxy S II General] JJEgan:
Thats news when did that happen today ?????????????

Must have missed it on XDA .

jje
[Galaxy S II General] dorian95:
Link, please? From what I can see, there is no beta at this moment.
[Galaxy S II General] eseregin:
It is comming...

Cm9 just some minutes ago has released new ver with new kern
[Galaxy S II General] dorian95:
Great news then, hopefully it will be my first ICS usable ROM :)
[Galaxy S II General] eseregin:
Yeah...

May be... better wait for CWM flashable release IMHO, much easier to flash...
[Galaxy S II General] florexus:
Let's expect for a new leaked again from sammy if that's the case that codeworkx updated the kernel ^_^.

w/ XXLPB modem by the way.
[Galaxy S II General] Fustigador:
x2, from now on i will only buy google phones, top software, samy´s only have hardware, and thats it, crap UI, just a crap.
[Galaxy S II General] DarkDvr:
Mhmm. Check out the Nexus Prime forums, they have tons of problems, serious ones too.

Pure google phones, although awesome, are pretty much a beta-testing platform for future releases.

Not saying they are bad, I loved my Nexus One, just want to point out that they have more than their share of problems.
[Galaxy S II General] Fustigador:
i´m selling sgs2 and buying nexus s, and again not for the hardware
[Galaxy S II General] eseregin:
Probably good idea...

Having the same UI in Android, Bada, just crap not smartphones - this is Samsung way.

Why? ... Just to 95% of ordinary people can use one, another, another Samsung filing the ssme on every platform.... to make people addicted to Samsung...

And this politic will be never changed - will we vote for resting isc keyboard and launcher or not - it will be fully Touchviz.
[Galaxy S II General] killall:
Current Google phone manufacturer...........SAMSUNG..........manufacturer of next Google phone Q4 2012..........SAMSUNG:)
[Galaxy S II General] RiCoTeRoX:
i am very happy with my sgs2 ... just brand new ... if google sell his phone in argentina, maybe i buy it but its not ..... so VIVA samsung
[Galaxy S II General] Fustigador:
yes, but code from Samsung phones are close source and nexus are open, and devs like cyanogen can make their magic in nexus and in a phone like sgs2 are limited...

if u want to use all the hardware features in sgs2 u must have a TW rom

(from what i know, but could be wrong)

:p
[Galaxy S II General] Simonetti2011:
If you are correct (and I believe you are), that is the best argument I've read so far that convinced to get a Nexus rather than a Galaxy S3. Development for the Nexus is a lot easier when it involves fiddling with hardware.

For those complaining about Samsung's delay on releasing a production ICS ROM, just take a look at other devices' forums: very manufacturer is acting just as bad as Samsung is. The only exception is Motorola, which is already deploying ICS 4.0.3 to devices like the Xoom, but that is only in the US. People in other countries are just left to wonder when it's gonna come to them.

Since I am in Brazil, I know that by December 2016 Samsung and Motorola will be releasing ICS 4.0.0 here, and 4.0.3 around July 2019.
[Galaxy S II General] veyka:
The Xoom was Honeycombs lead device, and it was pretty much a pure google experience, so its not surprising that its getting ICS so soon.
[Galaxy S II General] Papas_Con_Chile:
I cant wait i have xlpb installed atm and its working great, i cant wait for the final release
[Galaxy S II General] xfantome:
As far as I know Samsung is still the fastest manufacturer for device updates, as you can see the ics leaked roms are already here and official releases are soon coming!

Which manufacturer do better?
[Galaxy S II General] brack11:
I seriously doubt it. As far as I remember, every single update for sgs1 and now for SGS2 are quite delay comparing to others.
[Galaxy S II General] jonny68:
Totally uninterested by now all the initial hype was great 2 months ago but still no sign of it being released asides from not 100% stable beta releases so they can stick it up their arse as far as im concerned although when it is released ill no doubt stay with CheckRom who most likely build an ICS ROM.
[Galaxy S II General] shar1r:
I couldn't agree more - it's the most ridiculous thing. This is the first non-Nexus phone I bought and I can honestly say the moral of the story is never buy any other kind of Android phone.

Completely pathetic that the SGSII is one of the last phones to get ICS - while it's one of the most advanced phones. They should have been much quicker with the rollout.

Clearly customer retention is not a major factor in Samsung's business plan.
[Galaxy S II General] BuddyLee:
Which ever comes first, the galaxy s 3 or ics for the galaxy s 2. I'll be happy for either.
[Galaxy S II General] chrisjcks:
Other than the Google phones, who else has ICS?

& even with ICS, the Galaxy nexus is still slower & less powerful compared to the SGS2.

Software isn't everything, even with gingerbread - its trumps all over the nexus, or maybe you just like the feeling of using the latest OS version?
[Galaxy S II General] BarryH_GEG:
Want to see what happens when you release ICS code too fast? Go look at the front page of the Prime forum. When proprietary drivers and codecs are involved (they're not on the Zoom) it's not as simple as just throwing it together and heaving it out the door. If they did, and it was broken, instead of everyone *****ing about it taking so like they'd be "Samsung, WTF?" Not to say there aren't things within Samsung's control that they could have sped up, but rolling out s/w for a device sold all over the world in massive quantities isn't the same as slapping a kang on it.
[Galaxy S II General] m1ch4el:
hoping that Samsung Brazil release ICS update soon too! :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S II General] crinolina:
Can't wait!! i am siek of leaked versions
[Galaxy S II General] zakun:
i kinda agree with this point .. Gingerbread with the rite amount of tweaks is almost as close to the ics experience as possible . Faster the release , there will be a higher rate of bugs .
[Galaxy S II General] coversnail:
I'm in no rush at the moment to get ICS, there are still a lot of apps on the market that are not ICS compatible yet, lots of recent reviews say 'not working on the galaxy nexus'.

And there isn't really all that much to get excited about, I'll enjoy the swipe to remove notifications, and being able to try out Chrome. But ICS isn't going to make the device any faster, its already to notch, and it'll still look the same, you're not suddenly going to get an AOSP looking device.
[Galaxy S II General] MarkG83:
can´t wait to try it... in meanwhile, i´ll keep trying customs :D
[Galaxy S II General] niko1986:
Totally agree. The vast majority of people don't want a bug riddle quickly hacked together ICS rom. It would alienate a huge number off people from buying Samsung. And most of the ones bemoaning the speed of Samsung, would probably be threatening some crack pot law suit about lack of quality control. Sometimes it makes me wonder if apple and Microsoft have it right about a closed environment on their mobile OS's.
[Galaxy S II General] davix16:
Its been said that the roll-out will start

March 1st!!!!!!

Source:

http://www.xatakandroid.com/moviles...rian-recibir-ice-cream-sandwich-el-1-de-marzo

http://es.engadget.com/2012/02/10/i...ii-llegara-el-1-de-marzo-segun-elda/#thankYou
[Galaxy S II General] admartian:
Hope this is true.

Though the latest release is stable enough, I suppose.
[Galaxy S II General] Deeco7:
If it was official it would come out of Samsung mouth not some Eldar guy...
[Galaxy S II General] Currykiev:
+1 I find it unbelievable how impatient some people are and also how clueless.

I'm sure some people here think putting ics on a phone involves nothing more than the guy from google turning up at Samsungs door, handing over a CD labelled "Ics 4 Samsung." Samsung then put it on their server and BANG, ICS FOR EVERY SAMSUNG PHONE EVER MADE! /rant over
[Galaxy S II General] pulser_g2:
You mean roms don't just appear magically out of thin air? :p
[Galaxy S II General] admartian:
Wishing for something to come out doesn't make you impatient.

Complaining that it isn't out on the other hand...
[Galaxy S II General] Aikje:
well at least it is coming to our devices in march, just a bit curious about the battery life on the stock ics rom... Since the custom ics roms have good battery life (1,5 day)
[Galaxy S II General] JJEgan:
Nope only custom roms .

jje
[Galaxy S II General] sxi200:
I've tried most leaks including the latest LPB (stock & custom) and can say for sure that I will be using GB long after ICS is officially released.

Maybe when Checkrom (or other reputable developers) moves to ICS and includes all their tweaks like transparent widgets, call recording etc will I consider moving over. And once all my apps work on ICS.

Personally I prefer a themed TW launcher over all others. I have tried them all but always end up on TW. The stock google look is just not for me.

Currently running TW4.5 ICS themed on Checkrom V2 KI4 and have stayed that way for months now. Nothing I have tried since has tempted me to change.

Sent from my GT-I9100T
[Galaxy S II General] JJEgan:
Agree i am another that will not move to ICS as it does nothing for me and any benefits so far on the beta roms are not enough to change from current set-up .

jje
[Galaxy S II General] snudel:
word!

nothing to add here.
[Galaxy S II General] BuddyLee:
Only thing I really want from ICS is chrome browser ... it is the only thing im wanting. Even though its in beta or whatever ... I really want that only

;...;
[Galaxy S II General] Toss3:
By the time Chrome for Android comes out of its beta, and is actually usable, the Sgs3 will be out. Currently using ICS, and while it is usable, it isn't that different from GB.
[Galaxy S II General] Papas_Con_Chile:
ill stick to the stock web browser, google chrome will not support flash
[Galaxy S II General] Entropy512:
Yeah - and really, what other devices have ICS updates? Not many (Other than Nexus series devices, there are only a small handful of phones with ICS updates that I am aware of), and as you pointed out, some of those ICS updates were real duds. In general, early HC tablets are easier to update because:

1) Honeycomb to ICS is less of an architectural jump than GB to ICS

2) No HC tablet had any phone functionality - 3G/LTE data is a lot easier to get up and running than proper call audio.

3) Nearly all HC tablets until the end of 2011 were all similar hardware-wise to the Xoom (Tegra2 with fairly similar peripherals.)

HTC has not yet updated ANY phones to ICS, and if the March 1 I9100 rumor is true, Samsung will beat them to it. (All info I can find says HTC will start update rollouts in late March.)

Motorola has not yet updated any ICS phones either - The Xoom got an update, but that's because the Xoom is right now the tablet equivalent of the Nexus series of phones.

Sony has also not yet released any official ICS updates (I think they may have released an alpha test to developers, which I applaud them for, but all of their official updates are scheduled for late March too - http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericss...ap_rollout_starts_in_march_2012-news-3559.php )
[Galaxy S II General] hermi327:
Why need Samsung so long?
[Galaxy S II General] burt_ie:
Hello all,

Well I've just recently joined the GS2 club as I picked one up just two days ago. So far I am loving it, much better than my old HTC Hero which was probably about two years old and really showing it's age!

I was quite chuffed when I read that the GS2 will be getting ICS... I have a motorola xoom 32gb wifi UK which I just upgraded from HC to ICS (by unlocking and flashing a US rom and then doing a OTA update ) as motorola are taking their time releasing it in Europe.

As this is my first samsung phone what are they like with releasing their updates? Do they do them all at once or do they have a similar way where they do it country by country?
[Galaxy S II General] Devang.chauhan:
Hi welcome to sgs2 club.

And yes Samsung releases update by country ..
[Galaxy S II General] burt_ie:
Ah so it could be some time arriving in the UK then. No problem, to be honest I'm very happy with the GS2 anyway, I could not ask for a snappier or more responsive phone. I can't see how any updates could make it any better anyway, and ICS doesn't really add many more features, the only reason I updated my xoom was because HC felt like a half baked OS, ICS fixed most of its problems. To be honest I don't see why ICS is considered android 4...it should really have been 3.5 or something.
[Galaxy S II General] cc999:
Burt what firmware version are you currently using?

Charlie C
[Galaxy S II General] burt_ie:
It says android version 2.3.4,

baseband version 19100xxki1,

kernal version 2.6.35.7-i9100xwki4-cl575468

buikd number gingerbread. xwki4

does that make any sense? lol
[Galaxy S II General] burt_ie:
I also forgot to mention I just discovered that I can use my GS2 as a wifi hotspot for my xoom and it works great! I Could not get it to work with my old HTC Hero lol!
[Galaxy S II General] flavianoxxl:
Zen Master said "wait and see":p
[Galaxy S II General] Ybother:
I can see why flash is being faded out but to not include it in Chrome is a fail. Their argument that it's not needed anymore is rubbish, at this time thousands of sites still rely on it. Or are we supposed to just believe their propaganda?
[Galaxy S II General] Beefheart:
I really don't understand the people whining about Samsung taking their time with this. They clearly want to get it right, if you look it's being developed properly hence the numerous leaks and each one getting better than the last. Also, how many manufacturers released devices with Gingerbread on them but have already released official ICS updates for those devices? I know the Sensation hasn't gotten the official update from HTC yet (which was obviously the GSII's main rival in terms of release date and spec) so I'm wondering who you're comparing Samsung to to justify the whinging?

As for ICS, I have tried it out on my brother-in-law's Galaxy Nexus and it looks quite good and certainly worth checking out. I doubt I will install Samsung's official final update when it's released though, rather I will wait for people like Leo and GadgetCheck to work their magic on it.
[Galaxy S II General] IamJAX:
iOS and WP7 are similarly complex. Yet they don't take even weeks for update when a major release is made.

Are you saying that Android is such a buggy piece of crap that it takes months to make a working update to phones? I am whining because all the competitions are buggy crap to take half an year to update their phones with an update.

It is 4 months and see how many android phones are running ICS? In the case of iOS or WP7, in weeks all devices will be updated. Are you saying that they are bug free perfect software to make update possible so fast?

Also samsung had access to ICS early since they released a perfectly working Galaxy Nexus.

For people buying phones every year, half year wait for an update is pathetic when competitions are lot better with updates.

If only Samsung released sources, atleast people like Cyanogen/miui team could work on it instead of good for nothing pathetically slow samsung devs.
[Galaxy S II General] woodstock_ahem:
android is fragmented because of the choices it offers... live with it...

dont like it ??? ... buy a WP7 or iOS... WP7 comes to a limited devices following strict norms... so does iOS...

so I repeat again.... anyone who wants latest android NOW...NOW...NOW. !!!... either has to learn to be patient..

or they have not done their homework (before making a choice of buying an android handset)...

and seriously...you did had a choice ...right ???
[Galaxy S II General] akusokuzan:
What you don't seem to understand is that android has to conform to many different devices and specs. iOS and wp7 have a standard set of specs and it is easier to develop a solution for the same platform vs all the different hardware specs and manufacturer customization that android has

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] tro11:
No one thinks this. Google uploads it to them. CDs are dead. :D
[Galaxy S II General] Virtualsk:
Do some groundwork mate.

Apple and Microsoft have close control over hardware for their platform...that's why release comes faster then Android. ROM cannot be cooked in microwave. If you take a look at HTC, Sony or Motorola You will realize Samsung is making really really good progress.
[Galaxy S II General] IamJAX:
well...Is different devics/specs handled by different teams? Aren't these teams good enough for handling the devices they are assigned for? if it is a single team handling all the different specs/devices, delay is perfectly acceptable.

As for manufacturer customization, I don't want a Ginger bread skin on top of the beautiful ICS.

Also, isn't teams like MIUI doing much better customization a lot faster with a lot less resource than Samsung?
[Galaxy S II General] woodstock_ahem:
mate you desparately need a sermon..so here it goes...

Samsung is a BIG company as you can understand that bit...

They are here to sell the WHOLE package...not a custom ROM with dev's working on as part time job...

It so happens that google makes Samsung available say an ICS code available.. Samsung puts some TouchWiz Glamour on top of it ...( you dont like it??...remember my earlier post about free choices we have....)...and the home work to be done before buying anything ...blah blah...

Now what happens if someone has a problem with his/her phone?? either OS or hardware issue.... Mr Samsung is the guy (along with the retailer outlets)...who take in the phone...fix it..or replace it....

so these ppl cannot experiment....hurry too much....

do you hear ppl having issues with custom ROMS...?? who will help them at the very dark fate??? answer - NO ONE!!...

but live a clean life....update on via KIES....any problem with software/hardware....take it to customer service...get it fixed....

does it make sense of what the financial stakes are here... do you think...idiots work at samsung ???

its simple maths ...bright ppl are also drawn by money... but a big corporation like samsung...will see a bigger picture and not rush anything....

if you think you can do a better job than dev's working at samsung...please send them your CV....and let XDA forum know the outcome..
[Galaxy S II General] IamJAX:
So, are you saying that iOS and WP7 gets update within days because NO ONE is responsible if someone has problem with their phone? They wont take the phone and fix/replace it?
[Galaxy S II General] woodstock_ahem:
i am saying the following...and frankly i have had enough barking to the wrong tree..so its my last post on the topic...

iOS & WP7 devices are 30+ in number...

iOS devices are owned by Apple...can do things faster...no customization needed

compare this with google nexus devices..no customization...vanilla android..gets latest update fastest..

Samsung also sells WP7...like omnia 7.... but because MS told everyone...thank you...but no customization.... hence all devices gets..watever updates roll out..

Buy the Google nexus...and you dont have to wait much...

looking for choice??? its a big word...and frankly i dont think you understand it...

can buy...LG/Samsung/Motorola/HTC/Sony...numerous chines makes...

Why...why for the love of god....you didnt read it on internet...that android will take time for updates....in non nexus devices.....it was all over the place....

i saw it...i read it... then decided to buy SGS2... i have no complaints...

have a choice of putting leaked ROMS/custom ROMs... ICS ROMS...GB ROMS....

no more sermon... i am done !!!
[Galaxy S II General] sahibunlimited:
If u don't want any skin on ICS then u would have bought a nexus

Every mobile company will put their skin on top on every mobile except nexus