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[Galaxy S II General] IamJAX:
30+ devices in few days. (WP7 took 2 weeks for updating all devices)

How many phones got officially updated to ICS in 2 weeks after ICS release? ZERO.

How many phones got officially updated to ICS in 4 months after ICS release? ZERO.

Galaxy Nexus was a phone devleoped with ICS. Not updated

Also, how many different hardware does the team working on Galaxy S2 i9100 need to work? Just one. Not all the hundreds of android devices out there.

Choice? Once you buy a phone and if one is not rooting the phone, what are the choices you got? Can you remove TW from ICS on S2? Only choice is the varity of phones u can choose from ranging from low end to high end.

Samsung Nexus S is a Nexus device. What is the status of this pure google crap 4 months after ICS release? It's update was pulled because its too buggy for public release even 4 months after release of ICS.

Well...I didnt get the phone for free. S2 is a costly phone. I uses my phone for 1 year and then get a new one. 1 year support isnt too much to ask for when buying a top end phone that has sold millions across the world.

I uses custom ROM and enjoy that choice in Android. But no official update even after 4 months is just pathetic.

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How many Nexus Phones got ICS update?

What is the status of Nexus S? Update pulled because it was too buggy even after 4 months.

What about Nexus One? Too Old...no update. Yet similar specs phone runs ICS.

Is updating means buying new phone?
[Galaxy S II General] sxi200:
Maybe Google, the developers of ICS don't want other phone makers to be running ICS straight after they released it on the Nexus. ICS is a big selling point for the Nexus so why would they just shoot themselves in the foot.

And what's this about Apple releasing firmwares in days or weeks. I know they worked for many months on ios 5 with about 9 betas before it was released.

There is so much **** that Samsung needed to do to make this thing work on the S2 anyway. A completely new framework that needs to be flashed while preserving data. They have much more to lose by releasing a buggy system as opposed to taking their time. Remember 99.9% of S2 users don't even know what ICS is.

Sent from my GT-I9100T
[Galaxy S II General] IamJAX:
Android Jelly Bean 5.0 coming in Q2.

Just 1 more month for Q2. I wonder how many phones will even be officially updated to ICS by then.

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That is why 1 or 2 month delay is acceptable. If Samsung want to integrate a framework, they need to learn to do it faster.

All they got to do is make the perfectly working drivers from Ginger bread compatible with ICS and skin the ICS with TW. they are not making any of these from scratch and the team just need to work on S2 and not hundreds of other android devices. So, update should be relesed 1 or 2 months after ICS is out and NOT 1 or 2 months before Android 5.0 is gonna be out.

See how fast MIUI team integrated their framework after ICS source was released?
[Galaxy S II General] Virtualsk:
this is rumor ... No words from Google.
[Galaxy S II General] BrandoHD:
Unfortunately some people never get it, and they never will, this usually happens when one does not know the hours of work (coding) and testing it takes to achieve necessary stability, to some it is a snap of the fingers or the wave of a wand...
[Galaxy S II General] Kaze105:
Android 5.0 probably wont do anything for the SGS2 since its suppose to be primarily for tablets.

Honestly, I dont how you have such a huge problem. Excluding just the galaxy nexus, no other phone has ICS so its not like Samsung is specifically slow at release. HTC is said to release ICS in Q2 or Q3 depending on phone which is far worse than this phone that is said to have ICS within a month. If you really think thats its that easy, why not work at samsung to show them how its done.
[Galaxy S II General] BrandoHD:
Unified hardware buddy, all iOS and WP7 devices are only different superficially, the OS is created by Microsoft or Apple and pushed out to their devices.

Android is different, it is not a one size fits all, there is a lot of software that has to be written, sometimes from scratch to get the older hardware working well with the new software and it's not only Samsung, there is different hardware from different manufacturers e.g Broadcom, Yamaha, they have to rewrite their software while Samsung has to rewrite drivers for Exynos Cpu, memory, their is video drivers, GPS, Blutooth, all the sensors, Cameras then TW and all the codec support has to be rewritten for ICS compatibility, and it has to work and it has to be stable, this is no easy task, it's a disadvantage of having so much different hardware out in the open....
[Galaxy S II General] Steve_max:
IamJAX, take a good look at the hardware specifications for WP7 phones. Did you notice anything strange?

WP7 has only one screen resolution and one or two compatible processors. The hardware for all WP7 phones is almost the same. Microsoft adapts the OS to those few supported configurations before they release the OS. This means that the manufacturer doesn't have anything to do: just pack and release.

Same for iOS. Apple develops the OS for all the phones that support it, and only releases when its done for all. There is nothing they have to do after the OS is released to make it work for supported phones.

Android is the opposite. Every phone is radically different. Google writes it for a single reference platform (right now that is the Galaxy Nexus), releases it, and then the manufacturers get the final code and begin to port. They need to make it work on their display, their processor (this is very hard), their radio, their memory, etc.

This is the price you pay for the freedom Android gives you. You can get radically different hardware, from the Galaxy 5 to the Nexus, Optimus 3d to desire z... But it's impossible to keep the code for all of them in a single tree. You have to wait some more for an upgrade. The options are to have no option at all, like WP7, or to only see the OS released after it's been adapted to every device. Honestly, I prefer the Android model.

Sent from my Nokia 3510 via telepathy
[Galaxy S II General] outbr3akxal:
Cant wait for the ICS release. In the meantime i'll try some of the leaked out here. :)
[Galaxy S II General] coversnail:
Plus there is app support that Samsung need to think about. They have to make sure that every app/bit of bloatware they ship on stock firmware has to be ics compatible.

There are plenty of apps in the market at the moment which are still buggy when using ics, and even Swype didn't properly support ics til the stay of this month.
[Galaxy S II General] IamJAX:
Android may run on different hardware. but how many different configuration does the Galaxy S2 i9100 team have to work to port ICS? They just got a single hardware which has everything working perfectly on Gingerbread. They just need to make these drivers compatible with ICS and not make something from scratch like the case of Galaxy tab 2.

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Well...Most GB apps are ICS compatible or can be made compatible with minor fix. Still 4 month and not a single Android phone(not just samsung) got updated officially to ICS is pathetic.
[Galaxy S II General] Kaze105:
Considering there are a few types of i9100 (t, g, p)which actually have different hardware or something different, again its not as simple as the iphone or windows phone with same hardware.

If you think its so easy, why not work at samsung, htc, etc and show them how easy it is?
[Galaxy S II General] Virtualsk:
What are you by profession ? If you are not Dev. then you will never know this ****.

Google rewrote HAL in ICS , which in most cases breaks GB drivers. Certain drivers are working like on Nexus S/Galaxy S. While S II is not. besides, working without sources of drivers and SDK is not like playing angry birds!
[Galaxy S II General] stuclark:
Sorry mate, you're talking b******s!

There are something like 10 variants of the "Galaxy S2", with different processors, different radios, different integrated features, different cameras, different screen sizes / resolutions, different network support , different TV support... to name just a few!

If you don't like the fact that Samsung are the ONLY company to have got this far with an ICS release for their (outgoing, not latest) phone, then go and buy something from Apple and watch in despair as they take months to fix a *huge* data exposing bug, which they call a "feature". (yes, that happened last year)
[Galaxy S II General] sxi200:
ICS sux! Staying on GB.

Sent from my GT-I9100T
[Galaxy S II General] mattyboyo:
I must be missing something!

So what am I missing? I chose a GS2 because I liked it and mine still does all the stuff it did when I bought it. Has everyone elses phone lost functionality or has mine too and I just haven't noticed?

I can still make calls, send emails and texts, facebook, pictures, music, sat nav.

I'll update it when it comes but I'm not sitting in a darkened room crying till then.

I think it's great that Samsung leak firmwares because they won't have 1000 or 10000 beta testers to try and break it and no doubt they look on here for reported faults.
[Galaxy S II General] admartian:
I highly doubt that it's due to the fact that Android is 'buggy'. Far from it.

It's more than likely that it's due to most of the companies lack of coordination, and lack of streamline.

Perhaps it also goes hand in hand with that a lot of these companies have their own 'flavour' to Android (Motoblur, Touchwiz, Sense etc).
[Galaxy S II General] Entropy512:
iOS and WP7 get rapid updates because the update process happens "behind the scenes" and updates are held back until all devices are ready.

Android has a lag of a few months because I don't think vendors see the code until shortly before the public does - so they all start when the Nexus drops.

Basically, the time between November and March is something that is open and public for Android, but is hidden from view for iOS and WP7. If you look, with the exception of Google's "reference platform", ICS is becoming official on many phones at around the same time - March for Sony, Samsung, HTC, Motorola - basically almost everyone is dropping ICS within weeks of each other.

Reference/developer platforms always get releases early.
[Galaxy S II General] crazyscow:
can't wait for os jelly bean :P
[Galaxy S II General] burt_ie:
I feel like some jelly beans now! lol
[Galaxy S II General] GFXi0N:
I just read there is an official update to ICS in sammobile today.... :)

Are these official releases? Stable? any bugs known?

Another option is CM9 nightly, but i just read they are still buggish in some few things....

I really want to start using ICS, but a full working ROM would be better (not trying to disregard the dev's work over at CM)... what is the best option?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S II General] yaoyn:
link pls！！！
[Galaxy S II General] GFXi0N:
At Sammobile, you have I9100OXALPH (Europe).... which is 4.0.3.... but no clue wether if its official, beta or has any bugs at all...... if someone could shed some light on this, it would be great :)
[Galaxy S II General] dorian95:
Not sure if trolling, or just....
[Galaxy S II General] GFXi0N:
Not trolling at all.... just have been with the phone for a couple of days and i'm reading lots of posts to get up to date..... sorry if i repeat or repost... this is what forums are for, if we ware forced to only ask things once, we would only use google.

I saw that this is not the final version, but it might be stable... i dont know... i think i will wait some days for the final release.
[Galaxy S II General] yaoyn:
this was released weeks ago...=.= i thought there will be a new 1...
[Galaxy S II General] GFXi0N:
Sorry, ignore my post.. i will try to read more before storming this forum...
[Galaxy S II General] GDF01:
LPH is a leaked version but is very stable and definitely good enough for daily use.

I haven't encountered any issues the past 3 weeks using LPH.
[Galaxy S II General] remorema:
what about battery usage?

I can easely get 2/3 days usage with gingerbread

Tapatalked from "The ICS Killer"
[Galaxy S II General] khrone:
Battery

Well i get around 2 days max with LPH, that is some music and a few calls+texts... pretty decent for me, depends on a whole lot with what you actually do with it. Still waiting for the official release to see if i get more out of it.
[Galaxy S II General] Sleepycat3:
Went I went from LA4 to LPH, I didn't notice any increase in Barry usage. Instead, standby is slightly longer than with GB. You do have to go through the market and maps to make sure that they are not automatically checking for updates and location every few hours, but that is the same with GB anyway.
[Galaxy S II General] wltklah:
Official ICS user manual for I9100 is out. It is available for download on Samsung website(HK and Taiwan) at least I know so far. I read the manual and I didn't see any UI pictures in it, but it does refers to facial unlock functionality. I guess that means we will be getting ICS soon??
[Galaxy S II General] dorian95:
Yes, in few days, probably.
[Galaxy S II General] crazyscow:
did anybody follow the fight (argument) codeworkx and samMobile had on twitter lol

http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition
[Galaxy S II General] _AnAkIn_:
It's interesting to compare the new manual with the old (GingerBread) manual, you can see what they added and removed. It looks like they removed a few applications.
[Galaxy S II General] chris83210:
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/support/model/GT-I9100OIATGY-downloads?isManualDownload=true
[Galaxy S II General] stewart30:
Link not working
[Galaxy S II General] Northern-Loop:
Working here

Linkage

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] mobilemaduk:
doesnt work for me. Could someone save the pdf and upload it?
[Galaxy S II General] fresh87:
Manually remove the space before the .pdf at the end of the link when pasting the URL!
[Galaxy S II General] Northern-Loop:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...Open_HongKong_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120229.pdf

Should work

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] twixter:
This Link works 100% ;) klick me for download GT-I9100_UM_Open_HongKong_Icecream_Eng_Rev.1.0_120229
[Galaxy S II General] GFXi0N:
Samsung Israel might have confirmed march 15th as the release date og ICS for SGSII :)
[Galaxy S II General] raff28:
is there any ics update available for my poor g version s2?

:(

Sent from my GT-I9100G
[Galaxy S II General] GDF01:
I'm pretty much a heavy user so if it lasts me one day ,I'm very happy and I do get a day of use on LPH. I can't say that its better than 2.3.6 though.
[Galaxy S II General] spotlight79:
I didn't notice much difference between GB and ICS (LPH) (heavy user too). Anyway, for the past week I've been using Bezke's AOKP ROM - and noticed that my battery lasts up to 15% longer.
[Galaxy S II General] Neo.:
Yep. According to Samsung Israiel. It's 15th and Oh if someone missed it here it is....
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
Old news is old. ;)
[Galaxy S II General] salmanghiyas:
is it for SGS2 all variants ??

or just the GT-i9100 ??
[Galaxy S II General] janis99:
heard it will be a worldwide release, but i cant remember the source.
[Galaxy S II General] salmanghiyas:
if u can confirm the source then i can find a clue abt whether the korean ver. SHW-M250* Galaxy S2 is getting it or not ...
[Galaxy S II General] bawbaw24:
Can't wait
[Galaxy S II General] Lach0:
I'm very comfortable with GB, maybe I'll wait until release and then some more time so stable roms come out!

Already tested some ICS roms but I find them unstable still compared to BG roms.
[Galaxy S II General] Neo.:
As simple as that :D
[Galaxy S II General] Devang.chauhan:
Need some ice cream to cooldown my sgs2.... Lol

Can't wait.
[Galaxy S II General] pileot:
really, whats the big difference between ICS and what we have now? I mean, im running a modified stock that gives me two days easy of good usage, or one FULL day of heavy usage, i have never had battery issues, its fast, custom launcher is better than TW which i will likely put on the ICS version anyways.... i dont see a big benifit. Ya i keep checking for updates but in all honesty, its not really doing much for me that i see.
[Galaxy S II General] smakked:
I hope they get it right from what i can see it has a long way to come to be classed as completely stable, alot of work left. not saying it wont come then.
[Galaxy S II General] kilometers4:
what rom/kernel are you using?

I'm using resurrection v9.4 with stock kernel
[Galaxy S II General] rotten03:
I'm in Korea and I just got hit with an OTA update. 5.33 MB. I was hoping it was ICS, but it wasn't. My phone now shows Build Number Gingerbread.FB22. Interesting.
[Galaxy S II General] gb.sn:
Disable as in?... what? giving you AOSP?

You can root and freeze touchwiz, then use a third party launcher, like ADW or GO, these two smooth on the SGS2.
[Galaxy S II General] Luigi_2:
cm9 is getting better and better, u guys should give it a try though :D
[Galaxy S II General] GFXi0N:
Which is the current working/not working status for CM9?

This is quite outdated: http://teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/CyanogenMod9:GT-I9100:Nightly:Known_issues
[Galaxy S II General] brack11:
Why do you think it's outdated? Looks right for me.
[Galaxy S II General] Hanafubuki:
http://teamhacksung.org/wiki/index.php/CyanogenMod9:GT-I9100:Nightly:Known_issues

"Actual as of 3rd March, 2012 "

I don't know but I wouldn't call this quite outdated. It's just a few days load and seems fairly accurate. CM9 works great except MTP Data Transfer which is broken. But you can push files with adb push for the time being.
[Galaxy S II General] droid_1989:
Help?

Okay, I know it's not been released yet.

But I was wondering, how would I get the OFFICIAL release on my SGS2? I currently am rooted, using a custom Kernel and ROM.

What would I need to do, in order to get this official release onto my phone? I've never done a major update on my phone since I rooted it and installed custom stuff, which was about 6 months ago.

Will thanks for help on what I need to do?
[Galaxy S II General] Areg8_6:
It would be a shame for samsung if the stable ICS will have same bugs as GB roms after this long time of waiting period...
[Galaxy S II General] tdereus:
retedtr olid,

Keen on understanding when we will get a more stable release from Samsung for ICS?
[Galaxy S II General] Areg8_6:
You can wait for CWM flashable rom
[Galaxy S II General] BJ van Beethoven:
Flashing back to a standard firmware (from sammobile or the likes) from a region you know ICS has been released in should do it (if you don't mind losing your ROMs, root, etc.).

Otherwise wait for a CWM flashable ROM.
[Galaxy S II General] droid_1989:
Will probably wait for a CWM flashable ROM, it depends if videos entice me to lose everything, i'm guessing that a CWM flashable ROM will be released as soon as the official release has been released.

I just don't want bugs, that's one thing that's stopped me from flashing ICS, i've tested some but all have bugs :(

Thanks.
[Galaxy S II General] wonderstoat:
Hi Pileot

Out of interesing - can you elaborate on what exactly you are on? Customer Launcher, Modified Stock etc ...

Thanks

WS
[Galaxy S II General] damindra:
Will the official ICS release be better than the current custom rom I am running?

I am using Westcrip's Resurrection 9.6 ICS and it works flawlessly, including installing apps to SD card, music sounds great with the Dre Beats mod, Nova Launchers is smooth and fluid, has the ICS camera and browsers built in be default, and installed the 100% transparent toolbar and looks great!
[Galaxy S II General] lynx2k50:
Yes it will be better. :confused:
[Galaxy S II General] Entropy512:
For one, fixing the known bugs (fuel_alerted wakelocks, SoD with screen-off profiles limited to <800 MHz) with the LPH kernel (and any other LP binary kernel) will be a major improvement once kernel source comes out.
[Galaxy S II General] joaobarroso:
ICS for galaxy S2 startd day 10, said samsung

http://www.samsung.com/ph/support/newsalert/supportNewsAlertPopup.do?spp_news_seq=35152
[Galaxy S II General] miahegypt:
They removed the link !!!!!

it seems that there some thing wrong with this upgrade
[Galaxy S II General] stormtroopercs:
Or they played us? ;)
[Galaxy S II General] ts85:
Finaly the ICS will be out there, but im waiting for Miui Special Edition ICS rom. Will be awesome!
[Galaxy S II General] fatjivi:
10th march news is false..check samsung tweet they said ics will come "soon"
[Galaxy S II General] chrisjcks:
Still doesn't explain why Sammobile don't have the official version to leak.

Whether 10th, 12th or 15th - they should have it by now for the flashing community....
[Galaxy S II General] Nushio:
That's because SamMobiles was only fed Roms that samsung wanted tested, without having to release kernel source like Sony does with official betas.

So in short, we played into Samsung's plan to treat us like dogs, and barked and begged for more.
[Galaxy S II General] Zoozle86:
+1 :)
[Galaxy S II General] Dark Emotion:
I agree

Those "leaks" were out for a reason...
[Galaxy S II General] Entropy512:
Pretty poor way to test since it's obvious none of the testing feedback ever gets back to them... That kind of puts a hole in the "these leaks were beta tests" arguments.
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
And who's to say alot of the 10 post noobs aren't from Samsung themselves?? ;) They must monitor XDA and other android forums.
[Galaxy S II General] Mittaa:
FOTA and ROOT

Hi

While waiting for ICS ... I would like to ask a few questions:

1. Does anybody know if I can keep my root if I update using FOTA (I know I will lose root using KIES)?

2. Do I have to uninstall app requiring root before update (if I lose root)?

3. What about apps frozen ... do I have to un-freeze before updating?

Thanks
[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
1. No, you most probably will lose root

2. No, they probably won't work but no need to uninstall

3. I'd unfreeze data apps (Why have it on your phone if it's frozen??). System apps will be wiped anyways.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
I haven't used my dock much, but the other day while writing an email, the cursor jumped as you described. I thought I'd just brushed up against the touchpad, so I disabled it, finished writing my email and sent it.

I was assuming that was what the issue had been, and I haven't really used the dock since, so I haven't had a chance to see the problem happen again... I would suspect that if the cursor still jumps for you there's some sort of bug though (and I will still see the cursor jump as well.)

I'll play around with it and report my findings.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mikevipe:
I have found as you mentioned if you do not disable the mouse pad you will be plagued with typing issues. I noticed that when the touchpad is on if my wrists hit the aluminum within a 1/8th of an inch of the touchpad it still caused the issues but with the touch screen I have 0 use for the mouse so its always disabled.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jh120:
I was curious about this warning when I first plugged in my dock. What exactly is the difference? I've had my KB set to Thumb Keyboard the whole time and haven't noticed any problems. What's to be gained from using ASUS?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] seeknom:
I'm curious too... to be honest I'm not sure what mine is set to, but it's whatever it defaulted to (I haven't checked it or changed it.)

By the way, I tested my dock with the touchpad disabled, and experienced no jumping cursors. I wrote quite a lenthgy, babbling test email to myself, and everything went totally as it should.