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[HTC EVO 3D] im0rtalz:
I was once brainwashed also to the idea of samsung being cheap plastic. This is since I started off in the evo forums. Quite frankly I do believe more than half the people who says those things about samsung most have not even used one or even given it a try and are just passing along that idea that they hear everyone repeats on the HTC forum. My first evo I loved it, but the screen lifted had it replaced thank god for TEP, later on the power button cracked, yet I still loved the phone due to the awesome dev.

Samsung the only issue I have is the poor gps, it just isn't as strong at all indoors but outdoors it works. The build quality its amazingly light and thin, the screen has no issues of leakage no screen lifts.
[HTC EVO 3D] dfin13:
Samsung did indeed release cheap plastic phones a couple of years ago (Moment, Epic 4G), but handling my coworkers Epic 4G Touch has convinced me that they've changed their ways. I love HTC phones, but when it's time to buy a new one, I don't really give a crap about brand as long as it's an awesome phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] ehurt152:
True that!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
I'm not understanding this. Why do people around here continue to compare brand spanking new phones to our old model? Is this even productive to our community? A quad core will always beat a dual core. Period. Newer gen screen technology will always be more vibrant then its predecessors. Samsung will always have a different build design than HTC. The end, that's it.

Is it even beneficial to have users come all the way from other brand section and bash our 3D?

Go **** yourself. If you want the latest high speed phone, then get it.
[HTC EVO 3D] wase4711:
who's bashing? Just stating facts..

Nice language dude..obviously, the only way you know how to express yourself is with sewer talk..
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
I agree these threads usually take a turn for the worse, and are typically pointless. If you don't like your phone/carrier, change it up for a phone/carrier you do like. Sprint is not to blame because you have issues with the Evo 3D. I typically always wait a bit before buying a phone, because I want to see what issues are typical with a particular phone. And there might be something that is more in line with my preferences in just a few months.

Just an fyi, the Galaxy S 2 was announced in Feb 2011, and was released in May 2011 (Sprint version has the same specs as the global version, except for bigger screen and a wimax radio). Evo 3D was announced in March 2011, and was released in June, 2011. So, the Evo 3D is a newer phone, with a tad slower hardware (I haven't researched the release date of the exynos processor, vs the snapdragon in the 3D, to see which one is truly older).
[HTC EVO 3D] ogrillion:
I had the Samsung Epic - hated that phone. After that I swore off samsung =/
[HTC EVO 3D] nadomars:
I agree with you...I got sucked into the 3D hype and upgraded my OG Evo and have been regretting it ever since...I wish I had waited for the Epic 4G Touch (SGSII). I've always had HTC phones or iPhones, never motorola or Samsung, but when my contract's up in July/August, i'm gonna get the SGSIII or whatever Motorola's next flagship is. If nothing that great is out, though, I'll get an iPhone 5/6 until the next flagship android device is out...NOT by HTC
[HTC EVO 3D] krayziejoe:
Its the design that's far behind. If it looked more like the HTC Sensation, you wouldn't be saying this. The E3D is too square, makes it look like a brick.

The next EVO better have a decent camera, or ill jump ship to Motorola or Sammy
[HTC EVO 3D] Rob_ec:
The build.quality of the EVO 3d is like. Tank compared to samsungs cheap.builds I was sorta impressed by the epic tough galaxy but to me.if its not built good what's turn the point lol
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
Build quality issues are things like the battery door not fitting properly, or falling off all the time. It would be dust getting under the screen, due to not being sealed properly at the factory. It would be things like panels not lining up properly. If light was leaking out of the sides of the device, either from the screen, or the notification lights, that would be poor build quailty. If the charge port becomes easily damaged, due to not being properly soldered at the factory...that's poor build quality.

Do Samsung devices (specifically the SGS2, which is being referenced in this thread) regularly suffer from the issues above? If so, then the device has poor build quality. If not, the device does not have poor build quality.

I will personally say my Evo 3D has a good build quality. I think the biggest "quality" issue with the Epic Touch 4G was the LoS bug, which has been fixed by Sprint/Samsung via software.
[HTC EVO 3D] zone23:
The build quality of my 3D has been very good as well. No dust under the screen, no light leakage, cover is solid no complaints here. Its been a great phone one of the best I have owned. I guess if the question is "is it the fastest phone available or the best" not anymore but the day I bought it, it was cutting edge. Still love it great phone. NO COMPLAINTS at all. I believe the 3D was one of if not the first dual core phones at the time.
[HTC EVO 3D] HDD_x8:
I love my Evo 3D and would not trade it for any other phone that is out there.

Sammy may have a brighter screen, but it is 2D, sooo 90ies, dead as the CD.

The Evo 3D screen is so sharp that I still cannot believe how sharp it is.

It even plugs in to my Samsung 3DTV and plays back images, videos and games in 3D, unbelievable. It does this directly, with no tinkering, fiddling or tweaking, unlike my PC or PS3. It even runs Windows 95 at a decent speed, on my stock non-overclocked kernel, so there is plenty more power to unlock.

It could replace all my other gadgets, like the PC, consoles, media players and others, without any compromise. On other phones I would lose out on some features I want...

The camera is slightly improved with the Amaze camera posted here, but I agree that the Iphone has better image quality when it is dark, in 2D only.

It is all the other phones that are not in the same ball park, not even in the same country or even century.
[HTC EVO 3D] SRT300:
I had HTC devices since the original Touch. I was a huge HTC fan and never thought of anything else. I had an EVO and absolutely loved it! Then I tried the EVO3D. It was better, but not to the extent that the EVO had changed the phone world. I returned it and got the Epic touch! For me, It changed how I felt about the Samsung flagship. It returned me to how felt about the original EVO. I am not saying I won't return to the HTC, but it will be because they built another great phone. Right now, I am a huge Epic Touch fan because its just a great phone!
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
I have used a Gs 2 in the store and owned a epic. Nothing is special about it. Screen is brighter as go for color but too much like a iphone for me to like...

The htc evo screen is high res looks good crisp no issues wallpapers looks great. Samsung software is rather loaded with bloat and they have a good amount of issues late updates and all sorts of other issues the list goes on.........oh and on.....:p :D I dunno how long it will take for them to get ICS :rolleyes:

I rather stick with my HTC EVO 3D phone any day of the week then take on a samsung phone ever again..... Check out the evo 3d camera section on shots this sucker takes some wonderful pics.....

Tho in the end sprint did state they are gonna stop wimax phones and only release LTE ones lol... which is probably why alot of the phones are on sale right now....
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
People can live in the dark all they want but there's really no denying the fact that Samsung is winning the smart phone wars right now. It it's what it is. I don't get why people are even mentioning build quality after whole batches of the 3d came out with crooked screens.
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
As a developer, I see the phones a little differently than most, I think. I have both the Epic 4G Touch and the 3D (as well as a vast assortment of other devices I haven't finished developing on...) but they are two different beasts.

I like HTC because that is what I started developing on and what I'm used to working with. I do like the solid heavy feel of the 3D. I like that there is alot of support and great development going on for it. What I don't like is the touch screen (very unresponsive, should get it swapped but I don't want the new HBOOT), the camera is meh compared to the E4GT, and I find it to not be as smooth as the E4GT.

As far as the E4GT, the screen is beautiful, the camera is great, and it's very very smooth (TouchWiz is hardware accelerated). The resolution thing that people complain about is easily solved when you edit the build.prop to be 190 for the resolution, which makes the screen and the UI much better. I do like how thin it is and I don't mind that it is lightweight because it is so thin (I wouldn't like a heavy thin phone, would you?)

However, on the development side, I really hate it. Kernel and recovery share the same partition, which is really annoying when flashing a kernel that you get a new recovery that you may not have wanted. It's a different type of architecture, so you can't include some apps in /data that require libraries (there is a whole explanation of that somewhere) so that's REALLY annoying.

The overall scene over in the E4GT world doesn't make me happy - there are leaks all the time that are not worth updating to but I get tons of PMs saying "ZOMG so-and-so ROM is updated to the new base already! When will you update?!?!! LMAO NOT ASKING FOR ETA!!" and that REALLY pisses me off. People won't use good SW if it's not updated to the latest, even if it's not worth the update. That's why I stopped deving over there. The good news is that most of them won't be able to get the Galaxy Nexus or SGSIII (one of which will be my next phone) so I will (hopefully) be happy deving for it.

To finish this long post, as I said, they are two different beasts. For development, I really prefer my EVO 3D and would not mind using it as my daily. I use my E4GT as my daily because I really like the screen size and color, and it has better CM support right now (not by much) but I really enjoy CM. I wish that HTC would put out some phones with better specs and bigger and better screens. That would keep me happy :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Rob_ec:
Lol well drop the Samsung phone a couple times and well see which phone is still together lmfao

Too me shi**y plastic is bad build quality

Not even the iPhone feels as cheap as the Samsung builds

I don't understand why people always want lightweight devices are people really that weak.now adays?
[HTC EVO 3D] wase4711:
when I had my EVO's, all I ever read was people complaining about build quality, light leak dust intrusion, screens out of alignment, so i don't know what makes you think their build quality is "like tank"
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Mine didn't. Samsung also had a big glitch earlier were alot of the phones were rebootin. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
i got to smash my EVO 3D before sending it to asurion ( i put "in pieces" when fill out the online form)

and it took MANY MANY smashes with a hammer to break the digitizer and screen... i couldnt for the life of me break the glass on the outside... i was shocked on how much abuse the thing took before i finally got it cracked/in pieces

now i have own the Epic touch (for who ever said we are all repeating the same **** and never owned it)

i never said it wasnt fast or had ALOT of problems but mine (as did many) suffered from LoS where it would disconnect from sprint network... a reboot would fix it but luckily i had a 30 day return period (best buy honored it evo tho it was suppose to be 14 day)

after having 2 of them replaced (LoS) and one had a pink tint to all of the light greys and whites... i sold it on ebay... and bought a evo 3d

honestly i LOVE sumsung... but hate it at the same time... they make great hardware (exynos and AMOLED) but the build quality is still like a child's toy phone... (fisher price comes to mind) NOW i know for a fact samsung phones even though they feel like they would fall apart they held up.. (dropped my vibrant a few dozen times with and without a case)

now along with build quality comes software support... Samsung hasnt been the greatest on updated there devices... but that cant be anyones REAL argument when MOST of us flash custom roms/recoveries/kernels/radios

would i buy a samsung product again?HELL YES

Will it be narrowed down to Nexus devices and TV's only... umm YUP

not all phones are made perfect ive had alot of "launch" devices and ALL of them had something wrong with them (hardware/software) but its up to the manufacturer to fix it... and the establishment who sold them to replace them...

comparing the galaxy nexus to a evo 3d would be like comparing the evo 3d to the nexus S 4g.... it has been out to long for it to do the "vs" game...

this thread needs to be shut down because all of these trolls and nerds are bias/opinionated to one or the other... if you never owned one you should not say its better than the other... the goes for all these EVO 3d guys that smash on the ET4G... own it.. then make an opinion... that phone is a MONSTER compared to the evo 3d (stock)

like i said before (put AOSP ROMS on both and compare)

the epic touch is gonna feel HELLA faster due to HW Accel. samsung did that one thing right...

now the reason i LOVE the evo 3d is becuase its qUARTER HD display.. the epic touch when it first came out kinda had my eye because of the dark Blacks and colors... but the colors also looks like a crayola box... fake and over saturated...

the evo 3d's blacks are more a yellow grey black...and the whites are milky white with a yellow tint at best...

i wish i could have both still because they both have there ups... but also there downs...
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
Viper, it is good to see you clear up your opinion of the E4GT as some thought since you weren't developing for it must be a POS. At least you set that straight.

I am kind of disturbed though that you would knock the E4GT community. There might be a few anxious people who wanted to see something new from you but that should make you feel good and not hate on the community.

Since I have owned the EVO 3D from the day it was released I was luckily enough to get to run your EVO 3D ROM from the start and was pretty active in your thread for the first month or so. In case you forgot let me remind you that for a while you did not update your ROM and the users here were doing the same thing that you say hate. They were asking about updates and wanted to see what was going on. It annoyed you so much that at one point you kind of lashed out in your thread.

Just wanted to bring that up in case you didn't remember so the next time you want to bash the Epic 4G Touch users, the same thing happened here in the EVO 3D section. Only difference is you released something new here and everyone shut up.
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
So you just admitted to insurance fraud? Confused....

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
no the power button got smashed in and i took it to the service center... they deemed it "damaged beyond repair"

since it was such a small thing sprint retentions offered a 50 dollar credit so i only pay 50 for my replacement (brand new in original box)

i asked the rep what i should do and she advised me to go online and fill out the replacement forum... i asked if i could break it more.. she said its my choice lol...its not insurance fraud if i pay for it and damage the phone... hence insurance....

insurance fraud is when (example)

i lie and say its stolen and then sell the other one with a bad esn... obviously you have no idea what fraud... or insurance is
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
Gotcha. I didn't quite get the order of what you did. That sounds fun

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] wase4711:
Actually, I think most of the posters here, at least those of us who have actually owned both of these phones, have been pretty honest and accurate in their comments..

Folks, its OK to disagree with others about what you think is the best phone, or the best tv, or the best car....

Its only when the difference of opinion gets personal, ugly, or insulting that the discussion goes to ****.

if we all thought the same about things, and liked all the same things, life would be boring as hell...
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
it was... i was supper pissed tho when the service tech told me that the power button isnt something they can do because its soldered to the motherboard and for some reason they are not allowed to solder.. but are required to have a soldering iron in the store (if its a service center)

well all the flaming and trash talk isnt needed... yes opinions are good but not when they is no personal experience or knowledge behind them... alot of people just "rinse and repeat" what they hear... its sad but its the interwebz
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
welll.... it's not the phone's fault that people are r tards. lul

Sent from EVO 3D using XDA premium
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Never a iphone fan. I did own a epic phone made by samsung hated it. Screen was nice due to being able to see in the sunlight but other then that wasn't a fan of the software..

I was checkin out roms and what not for it dev support wasn't really crackin like the EVO.

Evo 3d has a bunch of support.....Along with the EVO...

Every phone has it's flaw. Nothing is perfect... Dunno how the thread got twisted around from the op to doggin and stompin the EVO 3D into the ground..
[HTC EVO 3D] -viperboy-:
Yes, I understand that but why would I want to put work into something that I do for free if I don't enjoy it? I really don't enjoy developing for the E4GT and the users just pushed me over the edge. Maybe the SGSIII or GN will be different, but I can't say for sure until I try it.

LOL, this is true but like I said, the users were just part of it. Phone is great, but IMO, development sucks on it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Overstew:
Regarding updates, Samsung's released two official updates, and both have been definitely worth updating. On top of this, Samsung's test builds are leaked nearly once a month. This makes it so development is always active! So development in my book is definitely great on the ET4G, probably not as high as EVO 3D, but still very good.

When it comes to hardware, I find the ET4G much better. I had an EVO 3D prior to my ET4G and I took it back. There were numerous reasons I took it back.

1). My music player would skip like crazy if I bumped my headphone jack. I have a video on youtube to prove this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S40ZirN11Lw

2). The EVO 3D's battery life was really bad (at least for me). It wouldn't make it through a day on one charge. And I live in a really good signal area.

3). The EVO 3D's external speaker was very very quiet. If you were watching a youtube video in a somewhat loud environment, you will NOT hear the video.

4). The EVO 3D's sense widgets did NOT work on any other launcher. This was a turn off because I don't like Sense that much (I personally use 5 screens, and in sense I'm forced with 7.)

5). The camera was poorly placed in it's design concept. Way too easy to get scratches all over it.

The pros of the EVO 3D were,

1). I really liked the 3D camera. It was definitely a crowd favorite.

2). The backdoor of the phone had a design that was fun to rub your finger over (rubberized diagonal lines.)

3). It was an Android. :D

4). HTC updates/development is very high.

The cons of the ET4G,

1). The recovery/kernel partition are the same. This makes developing kernels somewhat annoying because you must include a custom recovery with it.

2). A lot of Samsung's stock android APKs don't work very well with APK manager, which makes theming somewhat limited on the device.

3). The signal isn't as strong as other devices on the network. (doesn't appear to be very noticeable in strong signal areas.)

4). Soundpool bug was very annoying upon release. The phone would randomly crash out of games.

5). LoS came with the device. It was triggered heavily whenever you flashed a non-stock kernel. - Both of these bugs were fixed in an OTA from Samsung.

The pros of the ET4G,

1). It's huge battery and TW hardware acceleration makes this phone fast and battery last a full day, if not two with even heavy usage.

2). The phone's got the beautiful Super Amoled screen display. This is possibly by far my favorite feature of the device. Everything looks so vibrant and perfect!

3). The phone is currently running at Sprint's fastest phone, due to the Exynos CPU. Samsung makes some pretty good CPU chips! (There's not noticeable much speed performance difference between the two, just stating facts.)

4). Speakers are really loud. If I'm watching a youtube video, I'm 100% sure I can hear it, even if there's a lot of noise coming from all around you.

It's a hit or miss. I'd recommend the ET4G, but I'm not sure what software updates HTC has released for this device, which makes my list of cons possibly off. I hope I helped. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] dfskevinohyeah:
dont let the door hit you on the way out, lol jk i get what your saying but franky the build quality and style of htc phones keeps me coming back and SENSE is amazing when you could theme it! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] dadoc04:
Evo3D is a victim of the greatness of the Evo4G.
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
The 3D really just wasn't that good of a phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
We all know the EVO 4G was a game changer and there is no denying that but let's be honest, it did not have the greatest build quality. It was the start of HTC's light leakage fiasco and screens lifting up at the bottom.

Again, we are discussing build quality not how the device performed. That is another story with HTC crippling that phone at first with the 30fps cap, lol.

Just because the EVO 4G was heavy, it still does not mean the build was good. When screens are lifting up at the bottom, I don't know how people can say that is a leader in build quality. Anyone remember the Touch Diamond. The touch directional pad at the bottom of that device barely ever worked correctly making it almost unusable. Also you couldn't even register any screen taps if it was near the end of the screen.
[HTC EVO 3D] Serren:
I always see a ton of App reviews in the market with owners of GS2 complaining about FC's and other app error issues. My 3D almost never has these problems.

Also, Samsung's antennae, especially WiFi, are SUPER weak. My roommate has to pretty much be in the same room as the router to have even a basic signal. With my 3D, I can be anywhere in the house or yard and still have rock solid signal. I thought he was joking when he had to get another wireless router and throw it under his bed to have wifi for his phone. And this is with the other router only about 20 feet away.

Otherwise, they mostly do the same things at the same speeds.