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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
Not an unusual problem by the looks of it but sooooo annoying and soooo many options to try and fix the problem.

(edit - just to clarify, its more of a skidding than a skipping - the sound/rhythm is stretched and short of shudders like when a CPU is under-load with other apps running, but I've currently got over 100MB at idle.)

I've read the following forum which has so many options in it and a lot of good info so I'm going to slowly work through a few of the options with my Xperia and see what might solve the skipping issue.

http://androidforums.com/incredible-support-troubleshooting/72913-music-player-skipping-cause.html

I initially started using the stock player that came with the Neo and noticed it skipping every now and then but then yesterday when coming home from a music festival with a few new albums it came to time to STOP the skipping.

I always copy files from original CD's at the highest quality and then drag and drop them directly into the folder on the SD card to cut out any other application adding its musical interpretation into the tracks with missed data and timing etc (this is a practice I started years ago so hopefully the tracks are the best they can be)

So from here I start fiddling with the device......

1) I noticed that I dont get any skipping when using ES File Explorer to play the files but the problem ES File explorer is that it doesn't appear to have a shortcut directly to its media player and I dont want to have to go hunting for files EVERY time I want to play music.

2) So now I've started Meridian just as a test and it definately made an improvement = less skipping but still some :(

3) So I"ve moved Meridian to System App as suggested in the Forum and I'm running the player and keeping a close ear on it to see if it skips.

If it does the next step will be to start using "AnTuTu CPU Master Free" and setting it to start from boot and set it to raise the minimum processor level to around 400 MHz

If anybody who actually knows about this stuff has any ideas I'd be interested in hearing them.

I dont know why EX file explorer plays the files better than anything else I've tried - I have made it a system (ages ago) but I would also like to know what it uses for media playing? is it using its own complete of settings or whatevers? or is it piggy backing off the standard player? If I uninstall the standard player will ES still work?

If ES is using its own settings - how does it take control of things so well that the skipping stops?

What other media players take majority of control and ----------dam it just skipped, so I'm rewinding to see if its the track.............nope---------(ok onto the next plan and increasing processor idle speed.

4) Increased Idle speed to as close to 400 as I can and 3 min later - still skipping! c##p :confused:

Now what? I'm going to go away and think about this some more - if anyone has any ideas please let me know.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kiwiBratwurst:
I'm trying to replicate your fault but so far its been playing pretty well, Havn't noticed any skipping, stutters or whatever for the last hour or so.. I did notice a slight jitter when I first started up the music player (Stock) but that was just on startup.. now its rock solid.

you might have some service/App running in the background thats causing some CPU strain or memory hogging momentarily.. I would suggest checking your logcat either with adb terminal or an app that can show you your logcat. check this to see if your getting any low memory warnings or any other errors.

I'll start up a bunch of services and apps and see if I can get my music to skip, Ill also search my music collection for the highest bitrate files I can find (might be that I just use lower bitrate MP3's and so they don't strain the RAM and CPU as much as your high bitrate ones)

I'll let you know if I can get my music skipping like yours.

Kiwi
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] breakfastdude:
I've experienced this before, turns out it was the SD Speed Increase app settings that was causing the trouble. Apparently, if I change the setting to anything other than the stock (128 [bytes allocation unit?]), my music would randomly stutter/skid. Left it to stock and never installed it again. I hope this helps.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] tinyXperia:
I've had it too, using UberMusic and CPU Tuner. The problem is not the minimum cpu speed, because the cpu will be running full speed when the screen is on (or more than the minumum). With the screen off profile, my cpu is running at 122MHz, and still no stuttering.

I think the problem is caused by low RAM. Uninstall any unneccesary app and try if the problem persists when you're not multitasking.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] BuzzyMind:
I've experienced the same problem a few times using stock music player.. but recently I downloaded google music and never experienced it again... you might want to try this app since it's made by google and ui design is awesome!(ics like) :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kiwiBratwurst:
I've been listening to music for 3 straight hours now, I've managed to get it to stutter twice, once opening a news app (CPU strain while updating web pages?) and once when I opened a file explorer (I repeated that action several times since and couldn't get it to repeat the fault) logcat on both occasions mentioned an error: DMAMISSED 32 for the audio driver. In computer terms DMA means "direct memory access" or the newer version Ultra DMA. this is a little chip that accesses external memory (firstly directed by the CPU but then it frees the CPU up to do other stuff while its reading away, kinda like having a second cpu just for reading your music, but it still needs to get commands from the CPU) and I'm guessing that the missed 32 error is the DMA not getting the message from the CPU in time, perhaps the CPU is busy with something else? or whatever, I'm going to suggest running lower bitrate mp3's and see if it still stutters as much (if at all) try ripping a cd at or under 192kbps stereo or even 128kbps.. What bitrate are you running now? 320kbps? Or variable bitrate? Still not sure if its the problem but would help to eliminate it. :)

DMA Errors could also be caused by an SD card fault.. might be worth trying another card and seeing if it stutters.

Kiwi
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kormatoes:
All the time here
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
Bummer this player aint available for NEO.......:(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
I wouldn't have a clue about this bit-rate thing your talking about - how do I check this?

I've also stopped using the CPU minimum speed thing because I think it caused my phone to totally crash and not display any menu's at all - so had to re-install from clockwork mod boot.

When I'm listening to music I'm not ever doing anything in the background with the phone - it just sits on the table or on the seat of the car - this is when it skips.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
Are you saying my music is too high a quality?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
thanks for the feedback - currently I have 61 mB free on ROM and 86 MB internal and then 1.37 GB on SD. Also I'm not doing anything else with the phone when the skidding occurs.

:confused:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
I will try this! I have one of these running.........
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
Situation summary..............

1) Minimum processor speed app removed due to possible fatal error and notes above suggesting no difference (which is what I thought also).

2) SD speed increase app removed

3) Still running Meridian player due to user friendliness and less skidding - (might go back to stock app to help create more skidding so I can isolate the problem.

4) Track bit-rates might be too high - I will try this as a last resort once I've tried the other options.

5) Try another SD card - hmmm maybe I'll try this another day when I've got some spare cash
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] breakfastdude:
In my case, the track bit rates aren't a problem since I often have 320kbps and variable bit rate mp3 files being played in the stock music player and I experience no jitter/skidding.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
Ok -

* Instant skidding using Stock Media player with "SD speed increase" app uninstalled.

I'm also running

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.freeb.automm

Would this cause skidding?

Now I'm going to re-rip the CD I'm listening to at a lower rate and see how that goes.

----right I've done that and also realized that when I put the original music files on my phone I hadn't converted them from WAV to MP3 so they were huge files. I've now re-ripped the cd in WAV and then converted the files to MP3 so now the files are approx 3 MB instead of 30 MB.

So now I will play them on the stock player and see how they respond.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bassybekx:
that has been happening to me ever since i updated to .42 and i didnt know whether it was because i was fiddling with the phone (rooting, installing ics them which .62 reset to SE GRRR :mad: ) or whether it was just the amount of music and i had recently added Kasabians new album Velociraptor :cool: .. it was really ("was" hehe) especially because i would play it in the car connecting it to a jack lead on my radio .. and it was driving (no pun intended lol) me mad .. but then today i found my mini mp3 dock and though id plug it in and whack a few songs Foo Fighters and the like :D .. and I swear it didnt jump/skid/skip/slip once .. it was perfect .. and this was all before i updated to .62 about 10mins ago .. hopefully its all ok .. gotta check and make sure its still rooted

anyway thats my version of events .. peace out
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] BuzzyMind:
It is dude!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] tinyXperia:
Search for 'google music apk'
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
Well I wish I could find it - all it says is.............

"This app is incompatible with your 2degrees Sony Ericsson MT15i."

https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5nb29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC5tdXNpYyJd

Maybe you can be more specific about what app your talking about...?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
Thanks for your input.....are you trying to say that you dont get any skipping when you use the mini mp3 dock rather than the jack lead?

I get skidding both through the lead and through Bluetooth.

Since reducing the size and format of the files I've not had any skidding or skipping.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] BuzzyMind:
I'm talking about the right app man! I don't see any reasons why your phone isn't compatible with it. Try downloading it from another site.. google search: google music 4.1.512 .apk

download, install and go to the market again and see what it says... btw maybe it is not available in your country yet. Where are you from?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kiwiBratwurst:
I think it was just trying to play WAV files instead of mp3.. :P

Wavs are uncompressed and your phone would have been having a hard time processing such huge files through the DMA controller..

Sounds like you have it sorted now :)

Kiwi

(BTW HilfordJames, looking forward to catching up for a rum and coke when I get back to NZ in 2 weeks!)

;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kiwiBratwurst:
Isn't Google music a cloud music app? (for music purchased on google market, but says you can upload 20,000 of your own songs too) but kinda useless unless you want to stream all your music over your data connection, I think what he needs is a normal music player.. And AFAIK Google music is only available in the states at the moment. that would be why he can't download it in New Zealand and I can't download it in Europe ;)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Kiwi
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] BuzzyMind:
Dude Google Music as a player is available for download from the market. To use it via computer and/or to stream music is available only in the US... That's proven by the fact that I'm from Macedonia and I can use Google Music app as a player, but I can't stream music.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] kiwiBratwurst:
Its not available in market here in germany or in nz.. (I'm surprised you can download it in market unless you have market fix installed to allow all apps for all markets?)

There are copies on xda to download but I really don't think it will be any better than stock or meridian.. All that extra streaming stuff bogging it down.. (that's why I've heard it doesn't work so well on lower spec phones)

Anyway, as you highly recommend it I might download it from xda and give it a try.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1350164

Thanks

Kiwi

Edit:

The app works on my neo and if I follow the link on the above thread I can access the online music store too.. :)

The ICS theme is cool but it's really just stock android player with streaming functionality. Looks nice though... If only it had a widget ;)

Edit #2: ok so if I freeze/uninstall the stock music player I can enable the music widget for Google music but it doesn't show album art and has minimal controls.. I'm going back to stock music player, it feels faster and has a nicer widget.

Thanks for sharing this tho.

Kiwi
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
Yea thanks for the suggestion - I did manage to get it working by downloading it from a website but its not as good as the meridian player although it looks quite cool - but lists the music like all the other basic players which I don't like.

Anyway thanks for the suggestion and I would like to suggest not using exclamation marks and dude etc its rather irritating to say the least.

But to summarize this whole thing converting the files to smaller mp3's and then playing them has made all the difference so far - I've had no skidding for a while now but will update this post if I do get any.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] silasje1:
I had this before.. bought a new SD card (Samsung Microsdhc class10) and no skipping anymore.. i use flac and mp3 320 only. I don't use the sd boost.

maybe is the class 2 8gb card which was troubling?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] hilfordjames:
I'm using a 16 GB Class 4 card at the moment from Kingston - and since converting music files from WAV to MP3 I dont seem to have any skipping now.
[General Questions and Answers] sungersoo:
MyTouch 4G Wifi "cable"

P.S. That website showed out of stock for months.
[General Questions and Answers] marcel2909:
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[General Questions and Answers] rbeavers:
Google is your friend.
[HTC Sensation] zipvenus:
Has anyone tried simsimi app? It's so funny . I have tried on my tab but cannot downlod for my sensation. Does Anyone has .apk for this app?
[HTC Sensation] JohnnyBlack10:
Here a go Dude!

http://www.4shared.com/android/Q7IcTub7/SimSimi.html
[HTC Sensation] droidbabyxda:
I can't make it talk in English?! Anyone who can help me? It's speaking in some Indonesian language... :(
[HTC Sensation] Abaddon:
yeah simsimi does not support our device on play store. bummer :/
[HTC Sensation] vitusdoom:
where did you get that from? simisimi is working fine in my phone @_@
[HTC Sensation] andrewdoessuck:
I got it from play Store on my sensation but it doesn't talk, so its just bot to chat with... Plenty of other things to waste time on..

Sent from the black hole in your dryer.
[HTC Sensation] darkmantra:
its was more funny when it answers stupidly.. :D
[HTC Sensation] DeactivatedProtocolDroid:
Simsimi is crazy!!!

I didn't know that's it's suppose to talk. Been chatting with it since the other day.

I was surprised when it replied it my native language which is not English.

He gave me a good laugh when it told me I am dumb for not realizing that he can use my native language
[HTC Sensation] adolfo778:
not in the play store for us but i found an english version of it earlier that works will upload it when i find it :) (My sd cards not organized lol)
[Desire HD General] jmazur:
Hi all,

Currentely I'm using Leedroid ROM, it's my first custom rom. Becouse of lack of any recent updates I decided to swith to some other rom. I really love Lee's philosophy and tweaks so I'm looking for sense 3.5 rom developed in similar to Lee's way. Two most important things to me is stablility and smoothness.

Which rom would you recommend me?
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
If you like Sense 3.5 based ROM, I would recommend you Virtuous Affinity (http://www.virtuousrom.com/). This ROM is great, very stable, and battery life just amazing compared to other Sense 3.5 based ROM I tried before this (ER3BUS XL 3.5).

But if you want stock Sense 3.0 feel without any crazy mod in terms of stock graphic and user interface like Lee's ROM, have a great stability, speed, and performance I suggest you to try Android Revolution HD (ARHD).

One thing I didn't like from other custom ROM for DHD beside those two are the other dev is trying so hard to modify the Sense interface, in my opinion it's kind of bad move since it's ruin the whole Sense experience, because not everybody had the same kind of taste as the dev. So, without any hesitation, I suggest you to go for Virtous Affinity or Android Revolution HD. They are the best.
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
coredroid is also very good, heavily tweaked for performance...plus it has got sense 3.5
[Desire HD General] jmazur:
And what can you say about Virtuous Affinity in comparison with Runnydroid?

Coredroid looks interesting but I prefer rather more or less stock look.
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
I know that virtuous does some good job when it comes to rom, from the experience of ICS rom, virtuous is the way to go kind of thing and i'll be flashing it too to check it out
[Desire HD General] angolo65:
Im using the RunnyDroid v4

Its fast, have a long battery life and sens 3.5 with the wonderful quick lunch widget

this is the best ROM i have ever tried

here is a link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1351003
[Desire HD General] breakbystealth:
im thinking about tryin a new rom while waiting for a new arhd rom to grace us. for me arhd is going to take some beating as its always near perfect for me. what should i try people???? thinking about enery roms as they where the best in the good old hd2 days?
[Desire HD General] jmazur:
Trying Virtuous Affinity, rock solid till now, maybe a bit slower than Leedroid 3.3.3, but it's sense 3.5.

I think that also I would try runnydroid.
[Desire HD General] cacharreo:
best DHD rom

For me RCMix3D v4 i the most stable with sense and CM7.1 no sense.
[Desire HD General] chris.daf:
The best Sense 3.5 ROM I have tried is Mikrunny, which is basically stock looking but has a lot of tweaks available. Performance is very good and battery is pretty good too

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1406912
[Desire HD General] cwhitney24:
Just try out a few for yourself. Roms ate like cars. Some people will swear by Chevy's and other will say they are crap. Try for yourself to see the best one for you! :)

There are a bunch of good ones here. The devs are all awesome!

I got your 10 char right here

abso Bacon Mod
[Desire HD General] mattkle:
Have tried all sense 3 / 3.5 Roma, never tried coredroid or cygenomod. Best as to be either capys rcmix roms, or memnocs smartdroid which is heavily tweaked/smoothest Rom ever tried.
[Desire HD General] kjfisher26:
Hey. I started with leedroid too. Since then have used rcmix 3d v4 and coredroid v9.2. All good roms. I prefer coredroid out of the 3. I am using LC s ics at present. Its still needs a little work but its stable, quick and the battery life is the best of all the rooms I've used.
[Desire HD General] IHTFP12:
ICS

I know many people love HTC phones for sense, but if you are willing to go out on a bit of a limb, I would HIGHLY suggest Virtuous Quattro, which is still in active development. Nearly everything is working (camera needs a bit of work) and it is wicked fast. Flashed it about a week ago and I will never again meander to Android < 4.0
[Desire HD General] Master-and-blaster:
Don't agree. It's too unstable and it's rightly labelled RC.

There's just too many things aren't working properly.

Just went back to ARHD - the most stable rom I've ever used.

I'm about to try Virtuous_affinity.
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
The only super stable sense 3.5 rom running as stock as possible as HTC have released it is E3RBUS XL, very good battery life too

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1357127
[Desire HD General] aquifx:
I like the Android revolution, and am trying to install the rom on DHD :)
[Desire HD General] tc948:
[ROM] ER3BUS XL3.5 [GB 2.3.5][Sense 3.5][Runnymede 1.22.461.2][20.01.2012]

OK, so I am not the most experianced modder yet, tried Cyanogen last year and did not try anything since because of it. Then LeeDroid 3.0.3 on a recommendation yesterday, which died when using BT.

Stumbled across [ROM] ER3BUS XL3.5 [GB 2.3.5][Sense 3.5][Runnymede 1.22.461.2][20.01.2012] and awed...

fast and so far everything works as prescribed and expected

I am not sure if I want to look any further.

Only thing I'd like to mention, since the cook JSLEnterprises forgot: the ROM will change the FS to ext4. As far as I can tell, this is NO issue what's however, except it will completely wipe and reformat the internal memory (SD stays untouched) so make sure you have a GOOD backup before you start.

Thanks from me JSLEnterprises, some awesome work!

Tom
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
ER3BUS XL3.5 is currently the greatest gift we have for DHD, the DHD is never the same again with this ROM running on it, you can boost its FPS it to high heavens with ultra smooth rosie and supercharger
[Desire HD General] ynischa:
What is the difference between virtuous sense 3.5 rom and Erebus XL?

Yours truly.
[Desire HD General] onemanhack:
This morning I've flashed IceColdSandwich 4.0.3 - 1.3.0 by LorD ClockaN and it's just fabulous :)

I've also flashed the LorDModUE kernel :)
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
E3RBUS remains as stock as possible in terms of looks, virtuous has their own branding plus virtuous tweaks, both are good
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
Runny 4.0 is pretty sweet,battery lifes a bit low,but many are it seems,yeah lord clockans and twisteds ics is the dogs nuts, but im a camcorder user so waiting for till its done
[Desire HD General] tc948:
so far the only thing I found not working is Adobe Reader. Unfortunately it is part of the ROM so I can not remove it and install again. I can not post directly in the thread yet (noon status) so I hope somebody will pick this comment up from here ( wink wink nudge nudge).

Continuing to discover...

Tom
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
Er3bus 3.6 fixes the adobe reader issue
[Desire HD General] DN41:
Definetily ARHD ;)

DN41
[Desire HD General] Saidinsaidar:
Again I can highly recommend LorD ClockaN's IceColdSandwich, virtually no bugs that I can see now that I've flashed the latest test build, apart from the usual issue with the camera which can be worked around with 3rd party apps.

It's quick, stable, and generally awesome :)
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
ARHD is a pretty good ROM, can't agree more with you (I'm a user and big fans of it too), but it is getting to look outdated compared with other good Sense 3.5 based ROM around like ER3BUS XL or Virtuous Affinity :rolleyes:
[Desire HD General] m4rk1c:
Virtuous Affinity

Using Virtuous Affinity for few days now and for me it's most stable and fast rom...exellent battery life :)
[Desire HD General] Zeitraffer:
I've used Android Revolution HD, it's very stable, smooth and good-looking, and I also had a great battery life.

After trying other roms I switched to RCMix Runny v4 powered by he_stheone HoneyHD or IceHD Theme.

Also absolutely great ROMs.
[Desire HD General] tc948:
Adobe fixed in ER3bus 3.6

thanks just saw this, excellent. will get it, NOW :D .

Q re re-flashing: When I flash this ver, will my settings stay or do I have to start form scratch with apps and apps settings?

I had both experiences depending ROM, so not sure, when the settings stay and when they go.

Great if somebody could answer...

Cheers

Tom