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[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
Hello everyone. I have a problem with my Motorola Atrix and I am hoping someone might be able to help me.

I got it as a late Christmas present so its still practically new. I tried doing an OTA update from 2.2 to 2.3 and the battery died whilst the update was taking place. I replaced that battery with my spare battery which was fully charged, but now it won't load. When trying to load on startup, it gets stuck at the dual core logo and gives an error message if I press the volume button. The message says something like "Starting RSD protocol support". I am gutted...

I have been searching feverishly through the forums for some help, and I have come across some information with regards to the types of bricks, ie hard/soft, but I am not sure which it is in my case. There is alot of information available, but I can't find any with my problem. I am not opposed to trying to fix the problem myself as I have some experience in messing around with software, though that was back in the days of p2k-tools some 10 years back, but I would appreciate a nudge in the right direction and some advice maybe since I am almost clueless about Android software. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Additional info:

The phone is completely factory default software wise, so is not rooted or running any form of custom firmware. UK carrier - Tmobile.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neokim:
I think you have two options. If it's still under a warranty, take it back to the store and ask them to repair it. Or if you don't care about a warranty, you can follow this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1136261 to unlock your phone and install a custom ROM. But if you decide to unlock you phone, before trying anything, read the post completely. I'm saying again, read the post completely before doing anything.

I myself unlock the Atrix and using a custom ROM and I have a pretty good battery life compared with a stock ROM.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
Thank you for your response. I will look into the warranty idea and see how that goes. I hope there is not a long wait period which is my biggest reservation about this option since I need my phone.

In so far as installing the custom ROM and unlocking it, is there maybe another way that would allow me to continue to use stock firmware and OTA updates? I have been reading through some threads where they say once there is a custom firmware, running an OTA update could brick the phone. I also really just prefer to keep the phone original. If this can't be done, then I will have to give the warranty thing a serious go before I consider the alternative.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
Go here > http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Android_Products/ATRIX-4G_Software_Update_Page. Another alternative is to flash 2.3.4 stock via RSDLite, but if the update went through on your phone you could brick. Hopefully one of these will work for you! Other option is to unlock the bootloader.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
If you have a full battery why not download the T-Mobile software and write it back to the phone via rsd.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
Thanks for the suggestion. How can I tell if the update went through? Can I access this information in the phone's current state?

By now the battery is just short of full, but it should be enough to get through the flash. Where would I get the T-mobile software? I have checked their site and the latest android update they have is 2.1 on the site. I have also looked at the Motorola website, but their means of update is via an update program called Motorola Software Update.

Sorry if I appear a bit dense, its just from what I'm seeing is that I may only have one chance to do this and get it right, else its bye bye Atrix. I am still waiting on a response from Motorola with regards to my query about the warranty. If I can get it sorted myself, I will definitely prefer that as opposed to having to wait on them to diagnose etc.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
Have a look for the ATRIX super firmware thread on here and see if the T-Mobile software is in it, it may be the old software but it's worth a try as you can send the phone in to be fixed or just take it to a T-Mobile store and let them deal with it for you.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
If I implemented the automated update via the link you provided, could that circumvent the potential bricking you described, provided the program can access the phone? By the way, the link you gave was software for an AT&T mobile, while mine is T-Mobile UK. Will this make a difference?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CaelanT:
Ah, you're on an international Atrix? AT&T update won't work for you then.

Sorry, I missed that at bottom of the OP.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
If you get stuck and are in london pm me and I will see if I can help.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
No problem, I appreciate whatever help I can get.

Thanks for the offer pal. Wish I was in the London area to get the help but, I'm in Stoke.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
Ok, i have no idea if this will work but hay the phone is knacked so why not give it a go, it's under warranty so you can send it back if it don't work go http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1125944 find the orange full and t-mobile service files, download them and write them to your phone via rsd, it's kinda hard to say what one first, its a shame that the t-mobile one is not a full one as that would be perfect, the battery should still charge so leave it on over night, also if can try and make a motorola service cable, that will put power to your so no need to worry about a battery, have a look on here as to how to make it.........ok forget all that if you check out post 276 on the link above it has download for the GB rom t-mobile uk which is what you need to wirte via rsd.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sweetmyke:
Even if you don't pay you're carrier for warranty Motorola gives you a year warranty on the phone and that's the sane with almost all carriers I sent my unlocked atrix in for screen issues and they still fixed it and same with my hd2 and ipod touch :)
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
Any update on this?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
Sorry pal, been busy with classes so no time to update the thread. Basically, I tried to update via Motorola software, but it seems it cant access the phone to begin the update process. I tried to do download the OEM ROM of 2.3.4 from the ATRIX superthread, as this seems the safest option to me, bit it seems its on a host that no longer allows downloads. I tried to request a mirror, but I don't seem to have the authority to post in that thread. If you or anyone can make the request for it to be reuploaded to another mirror, I would be most great full.

Post 276 of Atrix Formwares Superthread

ROM:

Original Gingerbread SBF for ATRIX MB860 T-Mobile UK

Android 2.3.4 ---- Blur_Version.45.31.2.MB860.T-Mobile.en.GB

filename:

1FF-olympus_emara-user-2.3.4-4.5.2A-74_OLE-31.2-release-keys-signed-T-Mobile-GB.sbf.gz
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zigbee_chitti:
Did you try this?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19908591&postcount=276
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dratsablive:
When you say that the updated doesn't start because the Motorola software can't access the phone, is your phone recognized when you plug it into your computer?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
The laptop recognizes the phone since I can hear USB noises when plugged and unplugged. When I try to run the software, it tries to connect and then I get the message:

"Motorola Software Update is unable to identify your device at this time. Please try again."

Yes I did try the link, but sharing is disabled on that host so I cant download it. That is exactly what I need from what I understand, but I don't have enough access to request a mirror, even though I have more than 10 posts for some reason.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
Ok, well it seem over the whole megaupload thing any of the file sharing sites are playing it safe, you need to find someone who has the t-mobile file already and can send it to you, i have the orange one but not sure if it will brick your phone or not.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
The OP of that file would have access to his files on the host, its only 3rd parties who can't download his files from uploaded to his account. If he/some one else who has it can upload it to another site, it would be fine. He should still have access to his files on his account with the host though, so if anyone is feeling kind to make the request on my behalf, I would appreciate it very much since I am being prevented from posting in that section myself. Thnaks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
That's what I kinda meant, just you have put it in a much better way, am sure the file will be around for you soon, maybe have a look for the plain uk rom or unbranded one.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
Question...been reading and looking at some Youtube vids and was wondering if this can be of any help to me and my situation or does this apply to a specific model/carrier?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
That i would leave till the very last if you ask me, your phone to a point is not bricked that badly, have you gone in to recovey mode and done a full reset?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
Recovery mode? As in boot up with volume down button held? Everytime I try that, the phone shuts off after a couple seconds...If i hold volume up at boot, RSD mode starts no problem though...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
Yer thats the one, should say fast boot, then press the down button a few times to get in to recovery, if that dont work then i guess you will need to use rsd to rewite to the phone.

---------- Post added at 11:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 PM ----------

Link for the 2.2 service file http://www.fileserve.com/file/XNePGN2 once you done load it try and write to the phone, have no idea if it will fix it as it a downgrade, may be your phone did not take the 2.3 update and this will work.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
Thanks! Grabbing that now! If it did take the update 2.3 via OTA, will it result in a hard brick if I do this 2.2 RSD?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
UPDATE

I finally got the T-Mobile UK 2.3.4 SBF since the links got updated in the Superthread, but now the battery is too low to flash! Bought a desktop battery charger off ebay with next day post last night, so I'm hoping I get it by tomorrow. Got some more questions while I wait..

1. I already got RSDlite 5.4, Moto drivers and the T-Mobile UK 2.3.4 SBF. Do I need anything else?

2. Would this work regardless of whether the my failed OTA update went through to 2.3 or its still 2.2?

3. Will I be able to OTA in the future, or will this burn that bridge for me?

Thanks for all your help so far guys. Shouldn't be long now....
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
As its a full file not a service one it will over write everything on the phone so no matter if you was on 2.2 or 2.3 it will end up being 2.3, as its the t-mobile file you will still get the OTA updates, a service cable would have helped you out here as its self powered, well done and hope all goes well for you.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
Service cable? No idea what that was til I just looked it up, but seeing as how I now have two batteries I am thinking the external charger could be a decent investment at less than £10 with 1day shipping.

Thanks for all your help and I'll keep you updated, just have to exercise some patience for now...
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
As I own both a artix and a xoom thought it was best to make me a service cable,having 2 batteries is a good bet,fingers crossed and all that but you should not have any problems doing the update.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
Have you got it sorted?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
Got the desktop charger a couple minutes ago, so the battery is being charged as we speak :D
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
Got it sorted?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shottah:
And I'm back!

Strangely, yes! I tried to flash the SBF and about 5 mins into it, it failed when trying to switch the device interface. I unplugged the cable and pulled the battery and replaced the battery, this time however, no "fail to boot 4..." etc message. It just hung there for a while and then it progressed! Worked its way to the T-mobile animation and hung on a white screen for about 3 minutes before the capacitive keys lit up and the LED started flashing white. I thought for sure I was screwed! Took about 6 minutes from the battery pull til this point and then it just restarted on its own and is now running like brand new...

I'm not sure what I did since it looked like it just cured itself in the end. lol

Many thanks to all those who took the time to read my problem and offer help. No matter the contribution, please know that I appreciated it none the less! :D
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lonegunman:
Glad you got it sorted,nothing worst than a dead phone.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
http://okas-tech.com

Tell me what you guys think I found this based on the serial numbers as the prime and TF101 had serial format last 2 digits of year-month (in hexadecimal)

Then OKAS then a number ranking from 0-999999 this being the number in order that your prime rolled off the line with 000001 being the first prime made for that specific month/year

For example a serial number of BCOKAS014999 would mean your prime was made in 2011 month of December at OKAS and was number 14999 made that month...

But anyways you think they assembled the prime?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mithent:
It's an interesting theory... does that company do assembly though? From their website it seems like they're more involved with procurement.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
It seems to me like they will find parts for you and find assembly factories for you then even package It for you idk
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
This makes totally sense. The new Primes all start with 'C1' which is january 2012
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ride525:
The first two letters are correct, meaning year and month.

Editing since I mis-read rest of post...sorry...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Tech Faded:
Mind blown.......
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
It's 6 numbers I don't see them making more than 1 million In a month

And I meant to say the number your prime was off the line so first prime would have a serial of BCOKAS000001

Highest serial in 1 month BCOKAS999999
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ride525:
Oops...missed a word in the OPs. original post...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
So ya anyone have any input you think asus uses them?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sqlhawkn:
Running kernel that OC's - can someone explain what the different options do? If set at conservative or performance what happens while using the tablet? How about interactive.....etc??
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danzano:
Performance gov keeps the cpu at top clock speed

Conservative keeps it low

Interactive runs it at a variable speed automatically setting the clock as needed (best option atm)

On demand also runs at a variable speed but has more options for manual control

Powersave wacks the tf into sleep mode faster than all the other gov's

For IO i set blck0 to 512kb read ahead and blck1 to 1024kb

For IO schedular depending on what kernel your'e running the best options are BFQ SIO VR NOOP in that order (personal experience)

VM settings oom grouping's and other bits you probably wont want to play with till later on

Have fun !!!!

Sent from my tf running krakd warped an twisted 1544mhz Blades kernel
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PL-S:
can we do this on a none routed transformer?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrevankyle:
its rooted and No you can not
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luna_c666:
See here;

http://www.everythingabouttablets.net/2012/01/22/android-overclocking-governors-explained/

Although there are some frequency governors not listed they are usually variants of these with minor tweaks, once you understand these you can google the other ones (like lagfree, for example) that aren't listed and it should be easy to understand.

Also, check out the link in my signature if you are still a noob at Android and the TF101

(Should have read the original question, I realize this is about two weeks out of date now that I posted it lol)
[EVO 4G General] darkstar765:
Your favorite sense ROM? Best all around. Just 1. Thx
[EVO 4G General] Royalfox:
Classic

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G General] dbenney:
ENERGY sense 3.5 awesome rom. lots of control very stable. haven't really found much that doesn't work except sprint vvm.
[EVO 4G General] crazyeats:
Swagged out stock for shizz.
[EVO 4G General] xMODDEDX:
Waiting for a Warm ROM 3.0 with 4G. Basically Warm ROMS
[EVO 4G General] KommodoreHeinz:
Obviously there is only one rom that makes sense. CM7

Sent from my RamenizedEvo on Cricket.
[EVO 4G General] threestripebrand:
Synergy rls1
[EVO 4G General] Hulkanator:
If you like stock or synergy you got to try mikg 3.0.
[EVO 4G General] 14u2c:
Dropzeroc Rc5 best senes 3.5 rom out.
[EVO 4G General] jhunterb18:
Energy's latest. I just love it. :)
[EVO 4G General] fitz420:
As u can see by the large amount of suggestions, all of which are good, its tough to pick one sense rom without considering versions of sense, etc.

My advice.....download a bunch of em. Buy titanium and get familiarized with it. Make sure u use amonra and fully wipe between flashes. Go crazy and flash em all. I don't have an unusual amount of free time or anything and I have tried most of the suggestions here.
[EVO 4G General] JDM Civic EG8:
It's hard to choose so I have all of these in Nandroid. Right now I'm using Shooter Nightly, its super smooth and pretty good battery life using the anthrax kernel.

Sense 1.0

*Barebones(Stripped down sense rom A+)

*Classic Preview 6(Super smooth)

*SOS Swag on(Super smooth as well)

*Brads 4.67 rooted stock rom(Good for when I want to run a 100% stock rom)

Sense 2.3-3.5

*Shooter Nightly 1.0(Perfect 3.0 sense no complaints what so ever)

*Vins Original RCMix3D Runny 1/24(Super smooth for being a sense 3.5 rom

*Radiance RC5 (Really good rom it keeps getting better and better with each update)

Sent From My Evo 4G Amped Up On Verizon Tower Power!
[EVO 4G General] mmegalodon:
Myn's stuff always treated me nice, but like dude said ; AOSP makes the most sense. ;D
[EVO 4G General] serqut:
Most of Sense ROMs no included RTL and WWE. So I don't like use them out.

BTW, I'm an uyghur and we're use the Arabic based scripts.
[EVO 4G General] shizkoff777:
Drops rc5 is awesome
[EVO 4G General] darkstar765:
Is that the same as radiance?
[EVO 4G General] thicklizard:
most reliable one Ive used is MikG
[EVO 4G General] Geekaholic:
My wife is quite pleased w/ Swagged Out Stock. I think that's Sense 1.0.

When I rooted her, my plan was to give her a Sense ROM and then go to CM7 if she didn't like it, but so far she has been happy.

Sent from my toilet.
[EVO 4G General] jaredthegreat:
Yeah
[EVO 4G General] Mathman85:
MikG 2.60 is the best performing one I've used. Shooter and Synergy both gave me problems. (If it wasn't obvious, I like Sense 2.5+.)
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badhobz:
The internal microsd going bad and needing replacement (easy enough fix)

and the lcd crapping out.

Anything else i should be aware of? other than the lack of support from dell.

1) 407 stock rom stable?

2) whats the major advantage of going the DSC rom? i read a lot about the proximity sensor not working after a call. This would peave me off royal.

3) can it do wifi tethering on the DSC or stock rom?

4) no cm7 avaiable huh?

thanks!
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lordmorphous:
1) Never ran stock 407 long enough to check stability.

2) DSC is the most stable of all the gingerbread roms and has the most active ongoing development. It has been rock solid stable for me the past several months. However, there are a couple ongoing issues. One is the proximity sensor thing and its actually not a big deal and I believe its close to being fixed. The workaround for it is to go into Accessibility settings and set the power button to end a call...problem solved. The other one, which doesn't plague everybody (but does me), is a wifi issue. If I set up my wifi to stay on even when the screen goes off, I will randomly lose connection. The biggest problem with this is the phone thinks it is still connected, so I miss notifications, etc. The workaround for this is to run Wifi Fixer (Some seem to like Wifi Reassociate better). With Wifi Fixer running, my wifi issue is gone.

3) Yes, wifi tethering works on DSC.

4) No, there is no CM7 for this phone.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badhobz:
thanks for the response, as soon as i get (the second one) my streak ill install the DSC. Im always on 3g anyways (6gb of data) so i dont think the wifi is going to be too big of an issue. But thanks for the pointers on how to fix it.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badhobz:
oh also, since the internal microusb is removable, is it possible to upgrade it to a 16gb or 32gb model? will the firmware still recognize the chip?
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alperin1:
If you upgrade the internat card to 4gb the phone will format it for you, it is really quick and easy. If you go with a card larger than that you will need to do a lot more work to the card, formatting it and such. Also I think you may have to mount the partition you want to use. I hope someone else chimes in about the larger cards as I have not used one.

There is a thread about this.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cdzo72:
You can go as high as an 8 gig is what I have seen. Going 16 does need some partitioning though
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badhobz:
cool, thanks for the insight guys.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deejayviral:
i replace the 2gb internal card with 8gb microsd class 10 from Kingstone and works very good (internal slot for internal memory suport up to 32gb class 10 and the same for the extended memory slot, so 32+32=64gb :))
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mazensahlieh:
Let tell u somthing about the screen...one time i forgot my caseless Streak on my lap n went off the taxi som my Streak fell on the road on its screen...not a scratch on the screen..but lots on the cover around it........another time i dropped it frm about a meter and a half and al i got was a reboot n a loss of vibration for a while ...XD Its a damn tough device XD
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badhobz:
well the gorilla, monkey, ape, primate glass does help with the scratches but from what ive read, it's the touch screen underneath the glass that goes bad. Or the crappy connectors that either come loose or lose their connectivity. The first streak i got came with a bad touch screen already. now im waiting for the second one but i have doubts about the quality of the touch screen.