yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
thats what i yhought, and its fully understandable.

tho, as mentioned before, we had the watermarked Sensation Rom on the HD2/DHD etc a year ago, and no one really cared (i guess)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah understandable. Just think in those cases that should be stated when he posts he has it to begin with. Or not post at all, and keep it quite and only share with dev's directly to work on removing it if that.

Just personal preference here ya know. B/c at the current state of things it is pointless to even mention he has the leak since it can't be shared with anyone...
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Ahh yes but I didn't know that at the time, besides most Twitter user's would have known before long anyway ;)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah again wasn't meaning that to come off as a knock to u bringing it up bc I see no prob with that. It was directed solely at the person with the leak who chooses to post it on their Twitter.
[HTC Sensation] Alienator9191:
try the next thing to succed in installing apps at the new beta sense 4.0

get the apk u want (in my case astro file manager)

typ adb install as then press tap untill u see the full apk name

then enter and its a done deal

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after pushing about 5 apps onto it this way and trying them out im not happy with the result:

im sleepy and wasted 2 hours of sleeping time to only get FC's on every non standard app..

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after testing a bit, everything is buggy! if anything hangs just tap status bar, camara doesnt work landscape doesnt work(in home) still ICS launcher reason was that sense's one crashes (daid by sharer) and other stuff.

Current status working:

- mobile network, data, sms

- wifi

- hwa

- sound

- gps

Not working:

- bluetooth

- videoplayback

- youtube

- camera

btw after signing in into dropbox by browser every you as already was ridiculos u dont get 50 gb extra space just 3gb for 12 months. idk for sure if same counts for the app itself but i guess this is it.

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and now im returning to ARHD 6.2.1 because it just doesnt run good
[HTC Sensation] alphar:
Not bad

Sense looks ok, but I'll stick with AOSP ROMS for now. Virtuous Inquisition is pretty smooth.
[HTC Sensation] mgorman:
When I try to go to the rootzwiki thread it says I don't have permission
[HTC Sensation] duchian:
it's because trip removed link to this rom from thread so moderators closed or even removed thread
[HTC Sensation] mgorman:
Is that download link still a good link for sense 4.0?
[HTC Sensation] duchian:
yes, it is still good link
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Mike1986 has announced that a new update will be up today (as we know that might be +2days) :D

i donno what it is, but i hope its the Ville Rom from shen_ye :)

keep your eyes open
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
here is mikes announcement: LINK

also, would be thankful, if you guys could vote up this thread to 5stars again... some prick gave it a 1star :mad:
[HTC Sensation] 123Me:
i voted 5 stars earlier on. i appreciate your updates! thanks!
[HTC Sensation] grega_slo:
Done :)

10 char
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
thanks a lot guys!

big love <3 ;)
[HTC Sensation] Von Ropen:
Voted 5 stars
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
So how certain are we that this update is only for the elevate program?
[HTC Sensation] TMartin:
Mike does stock ROMs. This won't be a Ville port. If it is, this will upset many devs. A RUU should always be shared prior to releasing a personal ROM.

Sharing is caring. ;)
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
yeah i know he took some heat when he didnt wanna share the leaked rom earlier..

well it could be its still stock (maybe not Sensation stock, but close to what will be stock for us soon) (i guess)

i guess time will tell..

youre damn right; sharing is caring!
[HTC Sensation] sromer:
He hasn't said if it's Sense 4.0 though...
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
yeah i know, no one here hasnt said that he has announced it either.... we´re just hoping. (or at least i am)

EDIT:

but when reflecting.. update doesnt sound like the big step it would be if releasing a new leak.
[HTC Sensation] boa19861105:
Look forward to Sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
hey guys is this the Qualcomm s4 the one that will be in the Ville (HTC One S)?

they refer it as "insane" after doing a benchmark

LINK
[HTC Sensation] lws803:
Ooh, quad core or dual core?
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
dual core 1.5GHz, it says in the text.

sounds really interesting to me..
[HTC Sensation] gertjanw1993:
Where does he say that? :)
[HTC Sensation] timothio:
Omg, its that really dual core? It doubles s2!!!
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
he announces the update here
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
sounds really amazing! actually its 2.58 times GS2 ;)

There´s now a reason to but the Ville instead of S-XE

its much better, though the same specs (almost)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
EXACTLY my initial point of my comments here when discussed the ville leak. Its like holding your kids favorite toy in front of him where he can see it but not let him have it...lol

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yeah MSM8960 is S4.

Here is a decent write up on the S4 chips btw.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5118/qualcomm-announces-a-bunch-of-krait-based-snapdragon-s4-socs

Edit:

And even a more detailed write up of the benchmarks run and the chips:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...ormance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks

BTW this link has a TONNN of detail about the chips and the tests run. be sure to read all 4 pages.
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
What is mike talking about?

A leak for stock ics update or the official preview for ics?
[HTC Sensation] Nekromantik:
We wont know until he uploads.

I doubt its Sense 4 tbh, might just be leak of final version of ICS Sense 3.6.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Nothing really.. he just said that a update will come. What kind of update is not said.

EDIT:

weeyy we´re back on 5 stars - lets keep it that way ;)
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
a minor update is not worth it... makes me wonder :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] Alienator9191:
i installed every update if its minor or big :P and when ARHD gets an update i know it had a good reason,
[HTC Sensation] townay:
Video inside.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/18/qualcomms-snapdragon-s4-flexes-its-imaging-muscle-video/

And just incase anyone is lazy to click the link...

[YOUTUBE]71Ygmxid4EY[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]vwUvyJK6-Fg[/YOUTUBE]

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http://www.htcphones.net/more-htc-devices-to-get-android-4-0-ics/

Cant say this is about Sense 4.0 news but ..
[HTC Sensation] zukа:
To me, the most exciting thing about this is that HTC are finally ditching the rainbow default wallpapers and going for something a bit more interesting.

Any word as to whether the Sensation official ICS update will have Sense 4.0?
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
I actually liked it! Sense signature... Might make a new one for myself ;)

Only official is that the new models will have sense 4.0. All others are still unclear.. nothing stated.

Tho... Amaze is said by HTC to get ICS on 28th of March... (private mail to someone on xda)
[HTC Sensation] Alienator9191:
the new background is just better and i will allways be able to upload you the original wallpaper of sense if u like;)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah during CES Qualcomm interview with engadget they mentioned stuff they are working on thats not seen yet and that they were testing out their chips on TV's and how that could possibly work. Like shown in the video with gesture and facial recognition. Kind of like how Kinect works now. Said they are looking into possibilities of you turning on the TV and the TV recognizing you and automatically loading your favorite's list/settings and such...

The stabilization is truly amazing imho though.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
mike said its sense 3.6 (but with new firmware- maybe final)
[HTC Sensation] 123Me:
thanks! hope its not what the Sensation will be upgraded to. its good, but this thread got me all excited ^^ ;)
[HTC Sensation] TMartin:
Looks like I'll be adding a 1 star to mike's thread. Being the first to release a "custom" build is more important than sharing to him.
[HTC Sensation] bobsie41:
Couldn't agree more. :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
truly a shame....

If your going to do stuff like that and NOT share, then imho you should at least state that you can't share X b/c of X reason....
[HTC Sensation] TMartin:
If you can release a custom build....there is no acceptable reason you shouldn't be able share the RUU.
[HTC Sensation] shenye:
Seems I've found the origin of why I was getting spammed on Twitter. You're lucky I'm not giving you a warning and/or infraction for that. You do know no one is obligated to dev the ROMs and share RUUs with you?

There are actual legal reasons why a lot of leaked RUUs can't be shared, e.g. why capychimp's endeavor leak got shut down. Sharing leaked RUU files can be counted as "complicit in distributing proprietary and potentially illegally acquired code".

Another reason is most leaked RUUs are watermarks, and I don't just mean the annoying overlay blocking your screen, I mean the bits of code compiled into the ROM itself; you can't repack an RUU from modified files with the watermarks stripped from them.

TL;DR - If you like a ROM, give it an appropriate star rating. Don't be a spoilt brat and start up drama.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
i hope not youre addressing that to me, cos i havent done nothing. when they told me you had a leak, i went and checked youre twitter cos thats interesting news. but i did not wrote a single word to you.

be more specified to whom youre talking to, or even write him/her an PM or something.

also, what did you expect? when you announce something like that on a public site (like Twitter) and "brag" about having it.. of course many ppl are going to check whats what (and maybe even share it) - is all part of the game. dont play that game if you cant handle it...
[HTC Sensation] shenye:
The first part of my post was addressed to whoever that went "spam him on twitter". Most people who spammed me wouldn't know what to even do with an RUU, let alone know how to port it.
[HTC Sensation] pulser_g2:
Oh dear... He's not referring straight to you. More a case of in general to the person encouraging twitter spam. That's childish, and a sure-fire way to NOT get it.

A pm won't help, because it was referring to anyone participating in twitter nonsense... So posting it here makes sense.

RE twitter it's hardly bragging. He has something, people blew their chance of getting near it through behaving in a silly way. And even then, if there are watermarks on the ROM, or if it's not for distribution, then you'll not get it. Enjoy any pictures, or progress on getting it on the sensation, and stop trying to justify people's jealous behaviour...
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
ok now i know..

how should i know... he could of said: "to all of you... bla bla bla" or something..

well well.. lets just forget about this, and go back to topic..
[HTC Sensation] GuyAdams:
I can't see the Sensation getting Sense 4.0 before a next gen handset, presumably that will be announced at MWC.

Sent from my HTC Sensation using Mikes excellent Android Revolution 6.1.1
[HTC Sensation] mrbkkt1:
THIS:

Once they release a phone, its usually a few crumbs, most of the rest of the focus its on the next handsets.
[HTC Sensation] k0zmic:
That's what I thought. Which phones from last year got Sense 3.0?

Agreed. I guess if we do get Sense 4.0 it'll be no earlier than around summer time.
[HTC Sensation] Rage1ofakind:
The Desire HD has just received the Sense 3.0 update alongside Android 2.3.5.

Sensation line and Evo3d will definitely get Sense 4.0 but it'll be after the new devices
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
That is a fluke and one time instance there. See the EVO4G still stuck on 2.x sense....

Sensation and Evo3D will get it but itll be from Dev's more likely.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
No it isn't. The Incredible S, Desire S, Desire HD, etc received those updates because of the new 18 month agreement with Google.
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Getting the "Sense" update has NOTHING to do with the agreement with google. Sense is purely up to HTC, Android update is encouraged but google can't enforce it really like been stated in many articles already. Its far too easy for a manufacturer to sit back and say the specs cant handle the update with their overlay...

example HTC Evo4G, still on 2.X even when it got its GB update....
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Fair enough, but the EVO 4G was released much earlier than the devices I said got the upgrade.
[HTC Sensation] sausje85:
Does it even matter if HTC updates our phones or not?!

We got custom roms, we don't need HTC to update, we just need a leaked version of it^^
[HTC Sensation] bull2102:
wow sounds good
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Only reason HTC didint update Desire and similar devices with new sense or Android as simple they are not powerful enough or dont have enough space.

So what can they say for Sense 4? That our Sensations dont have enough space, RAM or CPU?

They cant, so that's why im sure we will get update 99%, or they will get rage of both Sensation and XE users all over their Facebook, Twitter, e-mails and other... :)
[HTC Sensation] GuyAdams:
Oh yeah, undoubtedly the Sensation will get official Sense 4.0 but probably not until a new flagship handset is on the market.

Sent from my HTC Sensation using Mikes excellent Android Revolution 6.1.1
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
well of course sensation wont be getting 4.0 before HTC Ville and Edge..

but i think we will get it like 1-2 months after the release of the two devices..so maybe around summertime? but i guess leaked rom will come sooner, and we can port it much sooner than official release.

i would love some screenshots already tho... ;)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Ok fair enough but ponder this. The only way you will get a Sense update is if they are packaging in an Android OS update with it. At this point it looks like 3.6 will come with ICS....So it would take Google having an update thats very important for HTC to have need to push another update to devices.

otherwise have they ever in history updated a device and the update was ONLY Sense update??
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
lets not hope so.. :/ but it sounds possible...like, we have to wait for 4.0.4 or something.

but if HTC wants to, they can release it anyway...but maybe, as you say, more confy with the whole package
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
from a pure business aspect it makes zero sense to update to sense 4.0 if they plan on doing 3.6 sense with android 4.0.3. Would give people less reason to upgrade new devices.

really think only way we see it on sensation/evo3D is from the dev's. id bet that even with a small update to like 4.0.4 that they would stick with sense 3.6 and it'd take a big update to 5.0 to get them to do it.

just be glad we have the devs we do that will make it possible to bring it over. :)
[HTC Sensation] happyendin21:
One other possibility

I would think that if sense 4.0 is streamlined and considerably faster/more optimized that would be a reason to update it. If sense 3.5/3.6 is still taking quite a toll on the system and 4.0 stands to get considerably better performance then they would also consider an update to handsets with specs like ours. Capable of handling much more than older generations of android phones... And like everyone says I am sure there will be a port if nothing else. I am still hoping for an official 4.0 for sensation. :D
[HTC Sensation] orb3000:
Sense 4 will be shown one day before WMC starts, and will be presented on the HTC press event with the launching of HTC Primo
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
MWC is held 27 feb- 1 march, so might be true

but, Primo is only a mid-range phone - i doubt it will have sense 4.0. (at start)

if they want to release 4.0 they do it with their flagship model - Ville or Edge
[HTC Sensation] sachin kundu:
Can't wait :)
[HTC Sensation] bobsie41:
I saw your tweet about watermarks etc. which explained why you could not release the RUU and after that i understood the reasoning.

It would save a lot of ill feeling if Mike would do the same if he has an equally valid reason for not sharing.
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Totally understand and agree with this. People seem to not understand that spamming someone for something is likely to have the opposite effect from what they want to achieve. It 99% of the time gets you nowhere, and does nothing but annoy the other side, further hurting any development that was going on at the time too...

Now I will say if you read my earlier posts in this thread that were related to the fact you put it up on twitter and hadn't released it as such; all of that was not meant to come off in any personal way or attack toward you. If you took/take it as such then I apologize for those words.

I was merely just was citing my personal opinion on it as I just don't see the point of showing the screen-shots stating having something if not intending to share it right then. Typically doing such leads to drama and lil kids wanting to take to social media forums/twitter and start BS, which evidently is what happened here in the end if they did spam you. Too many lil ones running around able to start petty stuff like this.

And Pulser_g2 aka GPL king, I might be hitting you up with a GPLv2 question here in the near future. Nothing very important but just something I started thinking about and I know you are the go-to genius with all things GPL. :D
[HTC Sensation] shenye:
No problem mate. Don't really bother me THAT much, but thanks :) I can't leak an RUU with a watermark anyway. Removing it requires dismantling the RUU :P
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
WOW.. amazing..

To sum things up:

- Do not spam shen_ye (or anyone)

- We all agree; if you have a leak - Share it! (if you can) dont just show-off

- BACK TO TOPIC
[HTC Sensation] shenye:
Nice sarcasm. Trust me, annoying mods in a thread will easily get closed. Not a threat, just a fact. :)
[HTC Sensation] townay:
Sunday is 26th..

cant be mwc
[HTC Sensation] shenye:
HTC Press Conference on the 26th in Barcelona. I know because I was supposed to be there.
[HTC Sensation] townay:
I see thanks for the clarification.
[HTC Sensation] pulser_g2:
Sure, drop me a PM when you have your question formulated :)

RE the files, people should be happy to see pictures, and know what will be coming to their device at some point soon... If someone has ported an unreleased RUU, then it means one that's available on a future device can be ported in the same method :)

That's always a good thing, so that's my take on why there's no issue posting pics or examples of it :)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
xda gets press invites? jw how you got the invite.

cool non-the-less!
[HTC Sensation] shenye:
Nah, I know a few people at HTC :)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Haha obviously. lol
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Samsung GS2 will get android 4.0 starting at 1 March.. i dont think Sensation will be one day later. but based on what we got.. it think it will be pushed out with 3.6. and then within months, sense 4.0 will roll out.

fully understandable from a business (HTC) perspective

LINK
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
However I don't mind waiting considering the touchwiz ics looks exactly the same except for basic new features. In the videos I've seen not much has changed... So I'm willing to wait for HTC upgrade
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
what's this number five meaning for you guys? :D

look here
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
I wondered that myself.. first I thought 5days left... But its like 4..

Hope its not a 5inch screen :/ too big for a phone, too small for a pad..
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
HTC sense 5.0... I wish :(

Possibilities... 5 New features, 5 New devices, 5 days, 5 cores
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
or a new phone for 5 $ :D
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
hahah you´re funny ;)

sense 4 brings more than 5 new features (maybe 5 major) ... 5 devices could be.. but unlikely. they just said they want to go with fewer models.(could be tablets also though...)

5 cores... quad-core is enough.

isnt the Samsung Note 5.2inch? do they wanna compete with that or what?

edit:

or is it 5 new devices... 3 android (HTC One X, One S and primo) then 2 wp7.5.
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
Lol, that'd would be the best "update"
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
lol we will never see this unfortunately :D
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
I'm almost sure that is a 5 inch device.. maybe the HTC Quattro also known as HTC one xl

Enviado desde mi HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio usando Tapatalk
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
the galaxy note killer :D
[HTC Sensation] Gandalf Greyhelm:
Maybe this:

"The Tegra 3 is functionally a SoC with a quad-core CPU, but includes a fifth "companion" core."

One-X anyone?
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Isn't it supposed to be a 4.67 inch? Like the galaxy nexus?

Edit... Read it wrong.. now i get it!

Yeah but i think it will be marketed as a quad-core not a 5-core.

I think its the countdown to MWC...
[HTC Sensation] dexter93:
why is sense getting uglier after 3.0? I mean come on htc!
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...923245392.45475.112176482203770&type=1&ref=nf

"This Sunday you'll hear something authentic"

Pic is the same as the other but this one with a "4"

This one was on HTC India and posted about 7hrs after the one posted on HTC USA with a 5...
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Gents, could you please post screenshots? I can't open links as I'm not on Facebook.

Sent throught the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
attached the image for ya in my previous post
[HTC Sensation] Nekromantik:
It will be nothing to do with Senny.

You guys have too much faith with HTC.

I bet Summer will come and they will say "Sorry no Sense 4 for Senny as hardware cannot handle it" BS!

Just glad we have good devs on here and hope they get it fully working as a port.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Cant be true.. HTC Primo will have sense 4... The sensation is better than that.. it should manage it too..

But, its only business... That want to sell their new devices first, then later on (as you say in summer) they will upgrade us. I can accept that.. fully understandable.

But that doesnt mean we wont have a working leak earlier ;)
[HTC Sensation] Nekromantik:
Of course Senny can run it but they will want to sell new handsets so wont release Sense 4 on Senny. Senny got upgraded from 3 to 3.5 and now 3.6 so thats end of the line for Senny.
[HTC Sensation] townay:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/htc-ville-to-run-on-a-dual-core-snapdragon-s4/

Looks like Ville will be using S4...

feature wise, its camera will be better but..there stills the Exmor-r from Xperia..
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
They have zero reason to upgrade you to Sense 4.0. absolutely none what so ever. Once they give 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6, then there is no way they go ahead and push yet another OTA to you so close together in the summer and give you Sense 4.0.

Sorry, just being realistic. The one thing I will say is the fact that you dont have the carrier restrictions and such us US owners have with VZ and Sprint, you MIGHT get it. BUT thats a big might there and unlikely one too. imho. the phone being able to handle it has nothing to do with the choice to add it or not.
[HTC Sensation] omar302:
The Desire S & Desire HD both got Sense 3.0. So why wouldn't the Sensation be upgraded to Sense 4.0?
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
To say "zero, absolute no reasons" is a bit over the top... HTC claims to care about their customers, dont they? Thats one reason.. Thats the reason DHD got sense 3.0 after all...

To me, i dont care so much when they officially update to sense 4.0 (or if they do it, as you argue). I will most likely use a developed ROM by someone on XDA..

Just feel sorry for all the stock users that have no clue about XDA etc..