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[Epic 4G General] saramon:
See, I remember when competition was about innovation, and if you wanted to keep yourself in business, the best way was to make something revolutionary. If Apple wants to keep itself in business, at least in the mobile market where they make the majority of income, they need to out innovate Android. Naysaying, and saying this is infringing on something, is not innovation. I mean the lockscreen is one thing that gets me, on Google it goes two ways, Google INNOVATED better then Apple, yet that is what they sue them for. Really?
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
I fully agree. While all 4 of my Android phones are rooted, over the couple dozen people I know that have Androids, only 1 other person has rooted their phone.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Well this sucks..... :( if of course it passes anyways
[Epic 4G General] krazy57wagon:
Its sad how true this is. Before apple would just do their own thing, creating their products like the Ipod, not caring about what other MP3 devises may be out there. They just made it better. Now they get upset that the idea they stole has been modified and used by google... give me a F* break. end rant
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
Your comment makes sense none.

There's nothing to pass. This is about an existing law/exemption permitting smartphone hacking to expire.

Personally, I could care less. Samsung isn't going to sue us (though Sprint could), and Samsung already has open bootloaders.

The folks that should be worried are iPhone hackers. Apple will sue them into oblivion, and shoot themselves in the process.
[Epic 4G General] Fantastic.Ergo:
I dont think they would go after the users, but they would go after source of information. Eitherway i dont like it. our devices we buy, should be for us to do as we please. i dont like restrictions, goverment should focus on other things more important than to stop innovation for the sake of companies profit. And companies should concentrate on putting quality products out there.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Agree 100%! Once you buy a device it is yours to do what you please with it! If you want to risk bricking it or voiding the warranty, that should be your prerogative and nobody should be able to tell you otherwise! No matter if its a windows phone, iphone, or android you should be able to do as you please once you own the device...
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
if i can buy a phone and smash it to the ground into a million little pieces just because, with no repercussion, i should be able to mod the software with out any problems as well.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
This. So much truth all in one message^^^
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Lol so I can't customize my car? I camt take the ugly "stock" seats out and replace them with some sexy leather? I can't take the window lever off and replace it with a much more efficient button?

I can't take some of the feathers out of my pillow to make it a little firmer because itll be more streamlined than when I bought it?

People need to look at this from outside the box.

If you own something, you OWN it. I can understand sprint being a **** and messing with your service if you're rooted because they own the network, not you. Kinda like how PSN (I should place a disclaimer since that's a copyrighted name and ACTA/PIPA/SOPA are out >->) wasn't accessible if you hacked your chit. I don't like law enforcement going after modders who simlly take down barriers for better personal use.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
And on a subject unrelated to service disruptions for rooted phones, I await the day when someone challenges "you rooted, your warranty is gone" in court thanks to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
[Epic 4G General] machx0r:
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act generally only applies to OEM compatible replacement parts and having the manufacturer prove that the replaced part was responsible for the damage. If you supercharge your car and then throw a rod from the increased horsepower you aren't likely to get an engine replaced under warranty.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
The thing with that though, is they can't deny you for a hardware problem because you can't do **** about that lol that is entirely their design/their fault. But I can understand if you rooted and took something out that caused the phnes power sensors to go crazy and resulted in the screen outputting 150% power resulting in a cute explosion and getting denied repair LOL
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
Yeah but technically we are not adding any hardware parts onto our phone. We are modifying software. Would that act be different in this case?

It's like buying a computer with Win 7 on it, but then you wipe your HD and put on Linux. If your video card fails during your warranty period (for example) then I'm sure you can get a replacement even if it has Linux on it.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Very true senor. Lol there's just so much wrong with this clause, they MUST be trolling lol
[Epic 4G General] wscott9903:
I feel good

I took 10 minutes and added my "2 cents" and submitted my word document. I hope this gets extended for smartphones, tablets and video game consoles.

I told them that, I need to jailbreak/root my phone to make more room on my phone to pay for new apps on the market and download more... if you don't pass this you will further kill our economy!!!

Of course i said more, but i thought that put the most sting...
[Epic 4G General] Stringyquark:
So microsoft can get sued (and loose) for making internet explorer a non removable part of windows, but now I can't choose which os to use on my mini laptop (that's how I view my epic.)

So will that mean I can't change my windows os or apple os (I'm not even sure an apple computer will even run an other os, just don't work with apple.)

This will end up as an interesting supreme court case.
[Epic 4G General] Tirregius:
I'm on your side, but it is not quite the same thing. The difference is that when we are rooting our phones, we are often taking low-level control of the hardware and potentially running it out-of-spec (sent from my 1.3ghz/275mhz/72hz/voodoo-modded screen/dac Epic 4G)

Just replacing the OS does nothing to the ROM on your GPU or the functioning of the controller chipset on the mobo. The hardware is shielded from abuse. But do the equivalent of what we do to our phones, I.e. reprogram the chipsets - that's another story. But I'm in the camp that we should be allowed to use our device however we'd like to, so long as we are not infringing upon someone's intellectual property rights. The manufacturer, likewise, has the right to refuse to service said device. It's only fair. I'm happy to have bought a warranty-free Epic. It seriously kicks a__.
[Epic 4G General] the_dark_knighton:
I like it!

Sent from my Cyanogenmodded Epic4g! Wanna fight about it?
[Epic 4G General] scoobdude:
Here we go again. Rooting is taking control of YOUR purchased product. Changing the os/rom is the same thing. The moss act specifically states that any failure can be denied service IF it can be proven that a modified part caused the failure. Example. New turbo on your car can not be an excuse for not replacing your power seat etc. But any engine failure can be denied.

While I do see overclocking a bit different its still our hardware. Therefore I would accept a voided warrant (with proof of failure ) but I refuse to be told I can not innovate or modify said device.
[Epic 4G General] toolegit:
Unfair. I know plenty of people over 40 who not only can use a touch screen, but have a stock phone because of choice, not (dis)ability. Myself included, except I'm rooted.

Higher Age != technical disability.
[Epic 4G General] bender beerman:
^right here^ ... u guys remember the guy that sony sued for putting out youtube vids on how to root and flash the ps3? it'll be like that. but i still don't think that will happen unless you're doing it with the advertized intent of pirating or the like. this IS about the $bottom line$. nothing more.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I'll give you that, meant no disrespect. I too know a lot of people over the age of 40 who are highly capable when it comes to technology. I was really speaking in generalities though, and generally speaking, I think my original point probably persists.

It just seems that today, 35ish seems to be about the cutoff where 'everyone' in that bracket is pretty tech savvy simply because we grew up in it.
[Epic 4G General] toolegit:
I understand your point, I do. I kinda feel the same way. Back in my day, it was BBS' that was the big thing. 2400 baud modem, woot! We're flying now.

My 7 year old daughter does things with computers and games that my 19 year old couldn't do when he was that age. I'm truly excited to see what comes, and plan on doing my best to stay up with the tech.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
I would actually move that up closer to 45. The 45+ age bracket is about the time when home computers were not widely available when this group was teens.

I am 45, and I remember my first desktop. For the most part, those older than me have issues with computers, and while those younger seem to be pretty tech savy.

Go into most IT shops in the DC area at least, and the network Gurus are almost all in their 40s.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I know a certain 51 year old that has over 1500 thanks on the forum. I would push that up to at least 50+.
[Epic 4G General] orlzzt:
45 and I can still Run with the Pack! (classic rock reference. another thing for us 45 year olds)

I started writing in "BASIC" on a Commodore Pet in 1984.

But point taken. Regardless of age/gender/religious or political affiliation, we must stand up against this nonsense. Like we did SOPA/PIPA. One voice.
[Epic 4G General] kennysvgp08:
Um, I payed 250 for my phone, I'll do whatever I feel like with it.

- Sent from my Gingerbroken Revived Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] vegasmach1:
Will I maynot be a dev here this 54 yr old can hange with most of you "young guns".

Back on topic. I mod my cars as I see fit. This is a chance and risk I take for the pure enjoyment. Same goes for my phones, mod and hack away. I thumb my noise at the government any chance I get.
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
This problem is, while I agree with this view, the carriers will say...

Yah, its your phone, do as you please, BUT if you want to run it on OUR network, you will obay our rules.

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[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
And then I will flash to metro pcs! Lol... I just don't think they realise how much business they would lose if they took that stance on things... of course the sprint store where I live could care less about root... whether its hardware or software they don't care... if its software they flash you back to stock before you leave the store... if its harware they don't even mention root... heck the tech loves to see me come in, he always grabs my phone (even if I'm just paying my bill) so he can see the latest and greatest I'm running on it.... I love the sprint store in columbia!
[Epic 4G General] RealTic:
This has everything to do with money and nothing to do with Copyright violations. Apple sells customer information to thousands of companies. Information such as what applications you download, what websites you visit the most, what time of day you visit these websites, blah blah blah. When you put your own custom rom on a device, apple/android can no longer spy on you from the bushes with their hand down their pants. They are losing millions of dollars because they cant sell you like a whore anymore. I am getting sick of this greed driven society we live in. Its all about the money these days. The future scares me.
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
But, again, what about the use of their service?

Mods that have no impact on the way our phones use their service are not their concern as much as tethering apps and other mods that impact more than just your phone because of (in the tethering example) increased data usage and dodged monthly fees (there's the real problem, but they have to approach it from the network impact angle).

We bought the hardware, but the data connection is on lease - and they most certainly are allowed to place stipulations on the use of their connection.

It's too bad we are such a minority - it would be fantastic to see Sprint's response if they lost a significant part of their customer base to other carriers lik cricket, who are happy to have any customer they can get. As it is, Sprint would hardly notice the loss - we're more likely to use free apps instead of paying them for services like the previously mentioned tethering...
[Epic 4G General] darklichny:
if the stock roms didn't suck so hard....

I think it should be an inspiration to the original stock chuckleheads how much all these developers have done with their lame base roms...

I couldn't imagine using my phone being stuck on the crappy stock rom...

As other users have stated and i agree with, i modify almost everything ive owned; car, laptop, desktop, etc... i see it as adding missing functionality to otherwise mediocre setups...
[Epic 4G General] rygran87:
I rooted my first Epic within a week or so. I used the one click method and installed noobnl's Andromeda ROM. I recently got a replacement and decided I'd stay stock until I got an upgrade. That lasted less than a month! I missed my CM7 too much. Stock is useable but if you know what you're missing, it sucks pretty bad.
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
If you were supposed to be the professional on a given product, would you be inspired by homebrew hobbyists doing it better than you? A mature adult would, but our society is not mature - we are more prone to giving in to human nature.

And human nature dictates that the supposed professional feels threatened by the hobbyist - the professional is interested in self-preservation, motivated by the fear that he might one day be replaced by the hobbyist. All the innovation in the world won't put food on your table if someone else is the innovator. They (naturally) care more about job security and a stable income than about speeding up innovation.

EDIT: For those of you who like the car modding analogy - you can alter the vehicle however you like, as long as it is street legal ;) (the law doesn't say our cars have to be street legal, but it does say we that can't drive them off of private property if they aren't)
[Epic 4G General] DCRocks:
And also pay $600-$700 for the phone, instead of a penny like with the upgrade sales ;)
[Epic 4G General] MemoryController:
I wanna see how they will stop us from using fastboot and Odin since even sammy sent a galaxy s2 to cyanogenmod team and it even has a triangle that shows u installed a damn custom kernel. UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS FTW
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
Effing bigot :mad:

I have no doubt I could code circles around your diapered ass.

Other than that, I agree completely with your fundamental point that the vast majority of Android users -- of all ages -- are not rooted, nor understand the first thing about the technical details thereof.

I suspect that most android users don't even know what "rooted" means. Not because they're senile oldsters, but because they really don't care. They have much bigger fish to fry in their lives.
[Epic 4G General] tazfanatic:
I was going to say something to him as well. I agree with you I have friends that are older then me (43) and younger then me mid 20's that aren't rooted and could careless.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Holy wow. Didn't mean to disrespect those of you who are more fluent in coding and are twice my age or almost there (I'm almost 29 if that makes a difference.) I know you're out there, it would be naive to think otherwise. Again, I was just speaking in generalities.

The point I was really trying to get to was what you said in your second to last statement.

And yes, you most certainly could code circles around me as I'm not a dev. I learned BASIC back in the day when I could barely hold my own bladder. Taught myself how to type proper (home row baby!!!!) when I was 6. Started as a CS major in college (though I'm a firm believer that a college degree gives you slightly over zero credibility when it comes to the working world) but changed to MIS because I didn't want to code the rest of my life.
[Epic 4G General] dwallersv:
(sort of) Apology accepted.

Keep in mind when posting that there are people of all types (insert characteristic) on these forums. Your post presumed something about us grayhairs that is not accurate, at least as differentiated from yutes (shameless My Cousin Vinny reference), and presented in a mildly denigrating way.

So I thought I'd give you a little of your own medicine :D

It's all good.

Truth is, among Android users of all ages -- heck, Smartphone users of all ages -- the proportion that are modding their phones with warranty-killing changes are minuscule. Now, narrow that to people in the age class of my parents, well...

Carry on, brutha!
[Epic 4G General] 1midniterider:
PCWorld Magazine about rooting the android phone

http://www.pcworld.com/article/248934/root_your_android_phone_tips_and_tricks.html#tk.nl_dnx_h_crawl
[Epic 4G General] ICStevenC.:
Legal or not, I'll still continue to root and mod any Android device I own or purchase in the future.
[Epic 4G General] MemoryController:
What good is a smartphone unless u can mod it to hell????
[Epic 4G General] zman519:
I know this copyright kinda bs! Is total BS! COULD YOU EVER SEE SUBARU OR FORD getting there pantys in a bunch over some one moding one of there cars & making it better & faster? And in turn it make them (the oem) look better cuz they made the car in the frist place.

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickwyatt:
Have anyone using gb UK noticed that there widgets have not updated in the last 2 day I try factory reset flashing sbf but that still don't update its it just me?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hemo-ali:
hey guys i have another error

I installed android market o my kf

I entered email

now I want to delete this account and add another account

how to do this

I downloaded quick sync manager but when I click remove it told me "some applications want this app you should reset your device to remove it "

!!!!!

no any solution I do not want to reset my kf
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XTREME_GUNNA:
To delete an account you need to go Settings/Accounts&Sync find the account you want to delete.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hemo-ali:
I did it but it told me when I try to remove it that I should reset to default settings??
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sexywacko:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1461399

Eugene373 --- Lets Make It Happen! --- Bring Him To Our Boat!

The damn thieves. Lol anyhow good luck Eugene, your work has been appreciated. But just a word to ya those sgs2 forums are full of idiots and noob questions. :-)

Sellout....lol only joking. :-P
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RushAOZ:
Not a big deal to me as I don't use his kernel. But say if it was mathkid or ezekeel than we'd have a problem ;) lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sexywacko:
Aww that's going to upset him. Lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bruce lee roy:
he's one of the best and most underrated devs we have. And I say that somewhat grudgingly because he's not always the easiest person to get along with. But his work speaks for itself; if you have every spent any amount of time with with his kernel work, you may know what I'm talking about. He kind of like Bernard Hopkins of android; you may not like him but you got to respect him.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RushAOZ:
Its not to say his work sucks.. quite the opposite. I have used his kernel and it was great. Just didn't use it enough to become a bug enough fan. A dev loss is a dev loss. But hey, they need it and we have plenty of good devs to keep the ns4g going.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kriEv:
come to us Eugene! mwhahahaah

PS: i was only browsing this forum for my friend's Nexus S lol.. :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsteven77x:
We raised enough and got him the GS2. He is ours now :p
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RushAOZ:
Lmao
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sexywacko:
Desperate. Lol
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AliR2:
hi guys

i flashed miui and dont like it , then i decided to go on 2.3.5 JPKJ2 (lastet arabic offical rom ) , cause its 1 file i dont use pit and without repartision

before and after flashing i reseted to factory setting both from recovery .

then after installing 2.3.5 i connected usb and it doesnt work !

while usb is not connected it says :

then i tried to reflash rom with odin . going to download , but still cumputer dont realize it .......

when i turn off phone there wil be battery & yellow Triangle .

i am sure my drivers are workin ! even redownload drivers with kies but still nothin ....

is my phone bricked or phone's usb is damaged ??:(

i can see files on my files application ....
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaze105:
I believe you have to turn on USB Debugging in settings.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AliR2:
no

when i tried to turn it on it says : usb is connected ...

while it is not connected
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Livewings:
Settings -> Applications - > Development -> Enable USB Debugging.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AliR2:
it says : usb is connected ...

while it is not connected
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HellcatDroid:
Sounds like a defective USB port.

Maybe there is only some dirt in it, shorting some pins, might check for that.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AliR2:
checked but i dont see any dirt...

windows found phone as bluetooth peripheral device X no driver found
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkhorses:
I had the same problem whith odin few times ago and i solved it using in the recovery "mount and storage" and then flash the rom in the recovery after a full wipe of course.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy46:
Hi, when i use Rom manager to make a back up, it automatically boots into recovery and and attempts to back up and fails.

It says

Waiting for sd card to mount (20s)

E:Cant mount /devblock/mmcblk0 (or/dev/block/mmcblk01)

(no such file or directory)

Waiting for sd card to mout (19s)

SD Card Mounted....(and then it creates an error log file)

I used to be able to back up like this, but for some reason it does not work.

I currently back up manually, booting into recovery and doing it that way.

Any Ideas??

Andy
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MatDrOiD:
Please do not use Rom Manager!!!

For Nandroid Backup / Restore use your recovery, for backups of apps and system use Titanium Backup. They are better and more matured.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy46:
Ok thanks for the advice,

Is there a way then to modify the file name so i know what ROM version etc i have backed up?

andy
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PreScoper:
Yes. Go to Rom Manger -> manage and restore backups -> long press the backup that u want to rename -> rename
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy46:
Ok thanks. Knew I could do it this way but wondered if could some how do it in a certain recovery or something.

Andy
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stankyou:
Check the 4ext recovery in my signature. It automatically names your backup using the name of the ROM and the time the backup was created.
[LG Optimus 3D] 314:
Created with UOT Kitchen

Features:

Ubuntu Font

ICS Animations

Cyan/Blue Notification Icons (See second image)

Sense like Notification Bar

Transparent Popups with Cyan Borders & Glow

Blue Dividers

Stock like notifications (Installing this theme won't change the Status bar power widgets and music control widgets)

Based on the framework-res.apk and SystemUI.apk of Baxter 2.3.5, But should work on all Deodexed 21a/21b (Gingerbread) ROMs.

Download via Attachment and flash with CWM Recovery

[Cant find any file hosts that are still working...]
[LG Optimus 3D] levent262:
merhaba v21a ya nasıl kuracağız baseband değiştirmek gerekirmi.