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[HTC Sensation] sarkar_007:
Why are scrollable wallpapers only on still images and not with live wallpapers? Some live wallpapers look really good when they scroll along with screens!
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
I guess to make the file smaller, so it won't lagg. I never use them anyway.. drag to much battery.. :/
[HTC Sensation] abuserkadayf:
i though that scrollable wallpapers were not possible on sense 3... because of the carrousel
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
so guys:

after now seeing the new sense 4.0 (and maybe even trying it out for yourself) - what do you think about it?

is it better then you thought?

what do you like? what not?

What could be improved?

what do you wish to see?

What do you wish to see in, say... Sense 5.0? ^^ (gosh, that feels so far away)

do you guys want HTC version of Siri? (or google one)
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
For starter get rid of the white background, looks aweful any color. Hehe

Sense5.0.... let taste the real 4.0 first:)
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
hmm, yeah i see your point. but i guess some ppl prefere the white one. me? i havent decided yet. but i guess a darker one also saves battery :)

haha i didnt mean "give us sense 5.0", but more like whats missing, or what could be better. but i see your point there also ;)
[HTC Sensation] Hawke84:
Is pike to see the option to select menu background colours, remember the gingerbread pulldown that was blinding white!
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
yeah that would be cool!

ive noticed though.. these vids of the one series do not have the effects in the settings menu anymore, or do they? can tell really.. i guess they only separate, but then no other effects, as shown on my video of the leak.
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
What I don't get is... If the HTC One V is worth of Sense 4.0, then Sensation and XE should be more than worthy of sense 4.0.
[HTC Sensation] stuart0001:
It's about marketing not capable spec. Having sense 4 in the senny is 1 more reason not to upgrade to their new phones.
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
The Sensation line will get sense 4.0 but after summer trust me

But im waiting for a htc one s leak so bad...!!
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
Sense 4.0 isn't enough to keep me on the sensation. I'm sure the majority of consumers won't know the difference, to many its just an "HTC".

If I could upgrade I would ,the 720p screen , the processor, the camera ,more RAM and the design make it way better than the sensation,even with Sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Well seeing as how Sense 4.0 itself has hardly been shown off much and really isn't much difference between that and Sense 3.6 visually.

Sense 4.0 is a lil different than all the others b/c it hinges on hardware on top of the software change. Without the f/2.0 lens, and more so the dedicated ImageChip itself you can not fully get the features of Sense4.0 as 90% of it has to do with the camera improvements and the huge changes made there.

So with that said, there ya go no current phones will ever see an "official" Sense 4.0 OTA as they do not have the hardware to support it. Good thing the devs can do magic here....

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then you dont get that those One series phones all have a dedicated ImageChip and an f/2.0 lens and working together with Sense4.0 and what Peter C. called "ImageSense" they have greatly improved everything about the camera top to bottom.

So the mere hardware lacking is why nothing currently out will get Sense 4.0 "officially."
[HTC Sensation] TheStigFIN:
In the beginning when I saw first pictures or Sense 4.0 , I was a bit disappointed to that. Even when I then saw first video of 4.0. But yesterday I somehow installed 4.0 from trip and now I dont want to swich back to 3.6. This feels so smooth... ;D

Send from HTC Sensation XE with ICS & Sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] serega12:
It doesn't look too bad, but with 1.5 GHz kernel and full hardware acceleration the sense 3.6 in ARHD 6.3.0 XE works very smooth for me... And I'm a fan of darker colors for battery conservation/ night use purposes.
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
In lcd screen the color doesnt interfere with the battery compsumition dude
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
i have to say you are wrong with that argument.. the image sense doesnt have nothing to do with upgrading a phone to sense 4.0... The camera chip in one line is a different history...you can have the new camera sense layout just with the sensation quality instead of the ones quality be cause if you read carefully they have a especial processor to the camera no ti the sense 4.0 (:
[HTC Sensation] Vipeout:
I think Sense 3 (3.0-3.6) is a downstep from previous versions.

The 3d effects just eat power and no matter what, they don't work as snappy as the old 2d layout. Plus, NO SCROLLABLE WALLPAPERS???

Come on, wtf HTC? I remember the first time I saw an Androind Phone in 2010 (the HTC Desire) and I was like "ZOMG the wallpaper moves when I flick the screen, I want this on my iphone 3gs!!!

This is like the main reason why I'm using 3rd party launchers on my Sensation, that and the fact that you cannot scroll the taskbar. Every goddamn custom launcher on the market has this function. Sometimes I just don't get those Designers, it's like they never even use their own phones...
[HTC Sensation] sarkar_007:
Couldnt agree more! The only reason I use Go Launcher is scrollable wallpapers, tighter grid of 5x4 icons which lets me place more icons on home screens and landscape ability for home screens too.
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
how am i wrong with that argument as I said exactly what you did? lol

I stated they have a dedicated image chip in the Sense 4.0 devices which is what enabled them to get the vast amount of Sense 4.0 camera features they hit on so strongly during their PC pretty much making it the highlight of Sense 4.0. Besides that part the only difference between sense 4.0 and 3.6 seemed is the fully integrated beats, dropbox, and the wifi sync management they talked about.

for those that have loaded both Sense 3.6 and 4.0 could you chime in on the actual differences visually? from pics it looks like the rosie is just not extended to the edge of the screen in 4.0 and thats the only difference between Sense 3.6 and 4.0. that and the default theme/scene used seems different in 4.0...
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
Different colors, no more glossy ui,landscape Rosie,better looking apps with new features like the clock app, the New task manager,New animations ,over all better landscape support, resizable Rosie widgets , better widget adder and it just looks better xp
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
I want an option to delete all apps in task manager... Takes too long sometimes to swipe off all..

Option to delete the text under the applogo in homescreen. Might look better.

Carousel

Better app-drawer, with better animations. Plain boring right now.

Screen brightness to go lower.. not all black, but darker. (Like root dim)

More gestures integrated.

Fullscreen browser.. no menu bar
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
yeah i just realized a sec ago that 3.6 didn't have the white menus...didnt know the landscape support wasn't there, nor the re-sizable widgets...
[HTC Sensation] Daiskei:
Technically you can only re-size the Google widgets in 4.0 as well, same goes with Sense 3.6.
[HTC Sensation] klownem:
Im thinking about getting a sensation xe I wanted to know will it get the update to use the beats function on third party apps.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
no one really knows until HTC releases the update. I think it might be a sense 4.0 thing, so it depends in if we all will be getting sense 4.0 or stick with sense 3.6.

but, as soon as a ROM is leaked, it think Devs will be able to port it over, so we all can have Beats on 3rd party apps as well.

if you´re thinking about getting a brand new HTC S-XE, i would recommend to wait till the One S is on the market... it will almost be the same price, with Sense 4.0 and Beats included.

hope that answers your question :)
[HTC Sensation] klownem:
cheers im going to sell my galaxy s2 and get the xe I prefer the xe over the new htc devices due to the micro sd slot, removable battery and I like the red buttons.
[HTC Sensation] townay:
Yeah the no microsd slot is a deal breaker but remember, the one s has a better processor and a lot better camera with a hardware imaging chip. Current htc android phones uses its cpu to process the images
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
This week is almost over... What's keeping HTC so long... Release the preview already...
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Donno if you read it already but HTC confessed that Sense has become a lil bit cluttered and not the most efficient. But now, with sense 4.0 they've started off from scratch!
[HTC Sensation] townay:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/new-apis/
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
After watching several HTC one V videos, which apparently runs on Sense 3.6, its not too different from 4.0, the multitasking tray is different, its not 3D like on sense 4.0, however its standard ICS... The camera seemed to have similar functions as Sense 4.0 like taking pics at the same time as recording a video... Not sure if this will be in for senny... Scrollable wallpaper, beats audio works with 3rd party apps too

If anyone else knows more please share, I'm still very curious
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Links of what u compared to each other?

Paul over at modaco stated the spec sheet of the V said 4.0 even though it was vague from everyone else reporting on it as there were such a wide variety of answers on that. Just like the CPU spec whether it be S2 S3 or S4 in that device...
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
Lol I guess that was a waste, I watched some vids from MWC, they said there isn't really a working model since it has a different experience which isn't ready atm and some said it was 3.6 but on HTC website it says 4.0
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Haha thought I watched the vids. LOL

U saw same ones I did then haha
[HTC Sensation] snatch666:
Thanks mate beautiful update clock widget and wallpapers really hot :)
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
My pleasure mate! ;) glad you like it!

If you already haven't voted 5stars on this thread, I would be glad if you did!

The 4star really hurt my eyes :P
[HTC Sensation] leeznon:
These things in Sense are ugly:

- Ugly app drawer

- Ugly icons

- Ugly notification bar

If I could substitute those things with stock ICS (stock icons, app drawer, and notification bar), then I'd use Sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
Nope in 4.0 some of the Sense widgets are also re sizable not all of them though

Yea I would like to be able to uninstall apps from the homescreen like in stock ICS
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
I really wanted the side scrolling app tray!!!

This is so annoying, they could have atleast made the interface identical!!

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44739/htc-sensation-xe-ice-cream-sandwich-review
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
ok if thats true, then 3.6 it is.. jut wondering how long we will have it..

ive read somewhere that Sensation might only be getting sense 4.0 LITE... :(
[HTC Sensation] lws803:
Hmm HTC's new multi tasking tray is really cool
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
Yeah specially the one for One X and S, however both V and Sensation have the default ICS one,

And I read about Sense 4.0 lite as well, hopefully they release it soon, it has everything I want
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
WOW!

look at the quality of these pics taken by the new camera of the new ONE-series!

absolutely amazing! amazing colors, sharpness, contrasts etc..

PHOTOS
[HTC Sensation] 123Me:
wow, who would know that a phone can take that good pics! nice!
[HTC Sensation] stuart0001:
Wow indeed. Those are the best pics I've seen from a phone and could make the HTC one range a real game changer, a phone camera that can genuinely replace a reasonable dedicated camera.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Android 4.0 is rolling out to us scandinavians... but i still havent got any update. but will report back as soon as i get it, and tell you whats what..
[HTC Sensation] xdviper:
It is definitely not Sense 4.0, it's been confirmed many times that we will get Sense 3.6 and may see Sense 4.0 later on.
[HTC Sensation] tbaker077:
That is silly of HTC to give you guys 3.6 when they said HTC themselves pretty much said anything below Sense 4.0 is a bit bloated.
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
He said Android 4.0=ICS and that's right.. Not sense 4
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
IMO it looks the same as sense 3, so pissed off by that
[HTC Sensation] klownem:
What new features are in sense 3.6 have they included the beats audio working with third party apps.
[HTC Sensation] townay:
Nope. Only in Sense 4.0.

Sense 3.6 dont even have landscape homescreen/lockscreen as well
[HTC Sensation] klownem:
Looks like im keeping my galaxy s2 really wanted to sell it to get the sensation xe but if its not getting the beats audio update not gettting it cheers for the reply.
[HTC Sensation] townay:
You'll get beats audio if you are willing to root your sensation though :)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
I think HTC would of been better off PR wise if they coulda rushed the 3.6 sense out to devices before MWC and than announced their sense 4.0 after.

Showing off what is coming in the future and then delivering much much less to current devices is going to do nothing but make people upset. Could of at least included the white menus and such...
[HTC Sensation] townay:
Hah couldnt agree more. To make matters worse was that it was mentioned that sense 3.6 was developed alongside sense 4.0 (if my memory still serves)

For me though, could have at least included landscape homescreen in 3.6 if they still want to keep system wide / 3rd party beats as their selling point lol.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Yeah! It would make more sense if they first released 3.6 and then at the MWC release 4.0 with the new phones. Then they could argue that you just got upgraded.. wait a lil bit more... But to first announce 4.0 then push out 3.6 is like a "*****slap" in my face... But I guess HTC was focusing more on 4.0 that they dident really have time fore anything else..

M-deejay announced that a new build will be up soon, and he said last time that "next release will be Ville-leak"

Interesting!
[HTC Sensation] goggi10:
Same thing HTC did with gingerbread on HTC desire lite version.... So we cant except to see sens 4.0 on sensation serie.
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Developed in parallel which makes sense and explains why things are so different like menus and such...
[HTC Sensation] townay:
Haha my English isnt as good so perhaps I failed to understand its meaning.

Looks like until then, we'd have to wait for a version of sense 4.0 for sensation users, if it does make it through somehow. Really dig that rosie landscape for homescreen and lockscreen. Otherwise might have to wait for One S leak :)

Currently using adw launcher lol
[HTC Sensation] happyminti:
looks really nice

Gesendet von meinem Sensation mit Tapatalk
[HTC Sensation] ajftl:
That looks like a XE. The standard sensation would get sense 3.6. The XE and XL I think sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] Ozgurce:
Will Incredible S get 4.0 or will we get 3.6 ?
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
The standard Sensation and Sensation XE have the EXACT same hardware! The XL has inferior hardware than both ( single core, lower res screen )! Where do you get this info? :eek:
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
doesnt sound right in my ears... The enly difference is that they were released later on, but specswise they are (almost) the same

link?

Don't think it will get sense 4.0 to begin with. My guess is 3.6 as the sensation.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
WE HAVE A HTC VILLE LEAK!!!

OOO Happy day (ooo happy day) *singing* ;)

LINK TO FORUM AND DOWNLOAD

lets see who make the best of this leak!

this is the moment we all been waiting for :D im happy... its like my börfday!!!!
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
What are the requirements to run this bad boy on my phone? The more I look at sense 3.6 pictures and videos the more I hate it, looks no different than gingerbread, really pisses me off, what's the point for releasing such a useless update
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
You have to wait ´til a dev done his magic to get it to run on a senny... So wait a lil bit more.
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
Sense 3.6 its so different from gingerbread, the way ics manage the ram and gpu, CPU is so wonderful you can get 3x the speed of gingerbread easily

Enviado desde mi HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio usando Tapatalk
[HTC Sensation] epsix:
Anyone's have any ideas into xxKingRomxx? Why was the thread shut downvand his account been remove=banned?
[HTC Sensation] dnicaj:
Tung shqipe

Shqipe a po na tregon si ta fus 4.0 ne sensation ?
[HTC Sensation] mrxjhsnx:
I guess he was banned before for language and joined again under a different name
[HTC Sensation] brenopoubel:
Ohh dude, what a great!

Is there any dev already working on it?
[HTC Sensation] Rolando88:
Of htc doesnt update we will not get a leaked version mate duh haha
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
While your correct about the Primo being a mid-range phone, it evidently is going to be packing Sense 4.0 according to all the reports speculating on the device.

What I do find funny is that this will be done shortly after the CEO and Exec Director of HTC UK both mentioned HTC releasing fewer devices and focusing on “2012 is about giving our customers something special,” as in high end devices and quality.

but i guess you can say a mid range phone price wise that still packs beats and ICS/Sense 4.0 would be "special" and quality...
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
well if it packs beats and android 4.0 + sense 4.0 it might be the best mid-range phone so far :D (or are they pricing it at $500-600 and still calling it mid-range?)

(im thinking more of legend successor, when they say mid range)

@Ronaldo88

I think you got it all wrong. if htc dont upgrade our phone (sensation) but only HTC Ville etc, we will be able to port the leaked version of the Ville/edge/Primo or whatever phone releases it..
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
Yes but official releases are always a better base for custom roms (more stable, fast, less issues) than ports from other devices.
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
I won't use ICS and Sense until 4.0, 3.5 is available on Gingerbread, so seeing that our official current ICS update looks like it's gonna be 3.6 I'm kinda mad. 3.6 is barely different from 3.5 and that's what's on 2.3.x, it crushes the entire newness factor of ICS. That being said, Virtuous Quattro until CM, or I might just stick with Quattro, it's solid enough.
[HTC Sensation] BiziBB:
Someone not on XDA mentioned that they are releasing the Cyanogenmod 9 beta for Sensation. Just FYI.

I am also waiting a little longer. It's amazing how much development we have seen so far in 2012. AOSP and Sense-leak based ROMs, now the prospect of MIUI ICS and CM9 Sensation ROMs is a possibility, too.

Is this Sense 4 based leak based on the same ICS as the most recent leak?

I only ask since there seems to be some shortcoming with the kernel or something else that has prevented ANY ICS for Sensation to get BT working properly. Is that going to change with the latest leak?

Thanks OP for this news and for everyone's contribution.
[HTC Sensation] craven667:
I want to know about apples lawsuit will that hurt 4.0 UI
[HTC Sensation] Xxul:
Hardwarewise the sensation can support sense 4.0, it is almost identical to the TC Ville which shall come with Sense 4.0 stock, so i guess eventually we shall get it

Sent from derp-mobile
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
im guessing HTC have thought about that when building up 4.0... especially efter apples raid last year.

so, im guessing that there have been some workarounds on this version, to avoid stepping into apples patents.
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
I haven't personally seen a Sense 4.0 leak yet. I doubt we will until after a full, stable build of 3.6/ICS is out.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Dont really know, but my guess is that they tested a somewhat never one, optimized for sense 4.0... The one we got is optimized for 3.6 (or whatever that will be later on). But I think it still is 4.0.3 tho..
[HTC Sensation] rafac24:
Guest mode with everything turned off including data? What will the poor guest do on your phone then? Ah, Angry Birds
[HTC Sensation] cgbayraktar:
it would be fantastic
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
The HTC Ville will have the 4th gen snapdragon (s4) which is supposed to be a lot faster than the S3 of the Sensation. It is also going to have 1gb of ram. So they are not identical at all. (The fact that both have dual core CPU's doesn't mean that they have identical capabilities). If they want to find excuses for not giving us Sense 4.0 they will! I hope they don't cause HTC will lose a hardcore loyal fan :mad: ! (i'll choose samsung for my next phone). And i'm sure i won't be the only one!

/takenotesHTC
[HTC Sensation] KAwAtA:
lol, speaking of which... I was gonna lean away from htc too. Especially if we won't be getting sense 4.0. This phone isn't even that old yet! Been using their phones forever, G1, Mytouch, Hero, Nexus, IncS, Sensation! I used to LOVE it. However, it feels inferior now. Although I don't like samsung builds... I think I'd rather that than what HTC has offered lately. Maybe even iphone5!
[HTC Sensation] galilio_mad:
well, we never had sense 3.5 or 3.6 to start looking for 4

of course i mean officialy, dont forget that 2.08 and the 3 ics releases are all test leaks

we`ll just have to wait, if its not official in a future update, it`ll be ported at some point.
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
iPhone 5 :confused: ???!!! No man! Even if HTC doesn't give us an official ICS build, downgrade Sensation to eclair and lock the bootloader with an unbreakable protection i won't go to the dark side ;) ! Samsung is as far as i can go! And for god sake.... I can't leave XDA! :eek:
[HTC Sensation] Xxul:
I wont shift to the hipsters zone (iOS), nor Samsung, if HTC fails me it is going to be back to NOKIA and windows phone, i have to admitt, the best design (for me) has nokia, the build quality, curves, lenses, etc, and WP aint THAT much of a fail OS either..

Sent from derp-mobile
[HTC Sensation] sapo916:
Agreed, when I buy a new phone this summer if a Samsung phone is clearly superior I'll get it but I'll give the edge to HTC if there is a tie. I read in the news that HTC will be focusing on making fewer but higher quality handsets so that should hopefully reduce a lot of the small problems we always experience.
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
I'm huge HTC fan my self! And don't get me wrong, i love my sensation. I bought it on release and i have no regrets! But i think that HTC is not the great manufacturer that it used to be. They release to many models, they don't optimize the software ( the lag of software optimization ( not the hardware ) is the main reason that the latest HTC devices are not performing as well as the competition) and the hardware defects are too many ( i used to know that htc=quality ). I found my self thinking of the GS3 for my next phone but if HTC releases something that is equally good i'll follow my heart :D .
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
i guess almost everyone is trying it... M-deejay is for sure! maybe even Mike1986, but not sure. baadnews might also...

they should be done by today/tomorrow i guess since specs are almost the same...

CANT WAIT!
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
po more ;)

veq prit edhe pak, se jan tuj punu me Ville (one s) ROM...

a e ki ti telefonin krejt origjinal, apo ndonje program ne te?

dergoma nje PM..
[HTC Sensation] hunter-S-T:
I guess it's not that much devs working on rom based on the ville ruu.

mike propably wont cause his roms used to be always based on sensation ruu

and he didn't port stuff from other devices.

than loads of roms are "senseless" so for them a sense 4 leak is pretty much useless.

king is banned again, so what's left is virtuous s4x, maybe baad (not before next week) and?

so just be patient and wait who's first coming up with a more or less bug free sense 4 rom.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Mdj released a new alpha version! All but camera and bluetooth not working.. but hey, its an alpha.. will get fixed soon!

But we have a running Ville-rom!
[HTC Sensation] mastmnmn:
Did u flash the ROM.if yes please make a video.tanx