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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
Loving CM9 on my TouchPad. It may be "dead" in terms of sales and marketing, but it sold more units than any Android tablet to date. Don't know what the Fire will do to the numbers, but last data I saw showed the only tablet that sold more units was the iPad/iPad 2.

Its kinda funny that my TouchPad has a solid ICS ROM before my i777. Its not 100% complete, but it covers 95% of my use.

Like the i777, there is a large base of community support. With so many units out there there is a ton of support, and dev activity.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] GalaxyMaster:
I have the acer iconia a500. Its basically a generic xoom. Has been great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Simba501:
I'm liking the Tab 10.1 I just picked up. It has some good development. I couldn't imagine using one of the smaller tablets; I just don't see the point. I enjoy the larger screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
+1 :)

sent via Galaxy SII
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
There is no official CM support yet, but CM9 is in process. There are some unofficial kangs.

Cyanogen himself is working on that one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] cfaberlle:
I had an Ipad 2 and recently sold it for the same price I bought it for :D

I'm waiting on the Transformer Prime to hit Best Buy on Jan 30th so I should be able to see how good it is once I get it.

I've heard it has some nasty bugs though???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Red5:
Woot.com has the 9.7" 32GB Touchpad today for $220.

Im waiting for the new ASUS Transformer 7" Quadcore for $250. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] polobreaka:
ive never owned a tab before and have been considering to buy one.

do you guys generally stick with the same brand with phone and tabs (samsung phone and samsung tab)?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] cfaberlle:
Tablets are changing as fast as mobile phones so no reason to stick to the same brand.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Pirateghost:
no reason to. its not like they pair up any better with each other or anything.

i love my galaxy tab 10.1

my kid loves his touchpad runnin cm7 (cant pry it out of his fingers long enough for upgrade to 9)

my wife loves my ipad

@OP,

try some out and see for yourself which one suits you best.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tysj:
Galaxy Tab 10.1 with CM9 preview. Surprisingly working very damn well. Even with it's quirks, I feel like it's more functional/fluid than before. I will miss Samsung's video codecs, though :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bigblue95z:
Just picked up the Asus TFP on Tuesday. I really like it. Had to drive about an hour to find one. For those looking at Best Buy stores should really look at their stand alone Best Buy Mobile stores (usually in malls) as many already have it. The search on their site does not include the stand alone mobiles FYI. Reading the forums here I was really hesitant to upgrade to ICS but after 2-3hours of solid heavy use everything (except adding favorites on the XDA app) works great. Some have reported poor wifi signal but mine seems great so far.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] poofyhairguy:
I have a Prime with ICS and it is amazing. A great compliment for the SGS2.

I call the combo my "Low PPI Plateau."

I will let everyone else break in high-res phones and tablets while I use the two most popular Android resolutions for each device with the maximum amount of power for that res.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jclav85:
Tab 10.1 + i777= WINNING
[General Questions and Answers] chevanlol360:
Ok i have the samsung transform ultra the phone is not listed here in the forums but anyway i was wondering if i upload the framework.res.apk to here will someone please add the CRT screen of animation for me?? If you would like to help me please private message me please anyone?? It would be greatly appreciated thank you very much:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sk8bert12:
I came back from school today and staarted using my phone. when I unlocked it it said to click install or cancel for the new ota update so o clicked cancel so i could find out more. The next notification I had was that it was successful and now I can't even open any root app. apparently it said it downloaded while I was at school without me knowing or my permission. is there any way to reverse this? I can't post in the resound forum because o don't have enough posts.
[Dell Venue] rodrigohv:
I had in past Venue Pro unlocked and it was with t-mobile before unlock.

Now i bought a Venue, it was with ATT..

My question is, in Mexico, using both phones, Venue Pro was not able to get 3G, and Venue does... Venue Pro was flashed with Mango and last firmware updates, but i remember when i installed last firmware to Venue Pro, i couldnt make calls...i remember i had to go back firmware 212 if im not wrong... with Venue, i get 2G, EDGE, 3G, everything with no problems...

I plan to go back Venue Pro... is there an issue with software or dell updates which cause this problem?
[Dell Venue] marvin02:
If the Venue Pro was T-Mobile bands and the Venue is AT&T bands I think you have your answer right there. The 3G bands are different.
[Dell Venue] rodrigohv:
Thanks for the reply... in reality, the Venue, before get unlocked, was in a dual mode, Tmobile and ATT, tought, not sure, still so, you are right, now the question is, how can i select what kind of bands to set in the phone? I know its a configuration properly from the carrier, but no way to modify them in "user mode" ?
[Dell Venue] TheManii:
Locking or unlocking doesnt change the supported 3g bands. It's physically impossible to change it without swapping hardware.

The VP should at least support 2g/edge speeds if the right carrier's sim card is used and it's unlocked, also if it's the VP that's giving issue you're more likely to find answers if you post in the VP forum
[HTC Rezound] Deathbyfugu:
http://androidandme.com/2012/01/news/htc-sense-4-0-hands-on-report-reveals-new-features-for-htcs-custom-ui/\

New info regarding the replacement for the interim "Sense 3.6" we have in the latest leaks. Sounds like a serious improvement over the past UIs.
[HTC Rezound] username235:
That sounds awesome...though I really hope they keep the menu button with the capacitive buttons, I would really miss that...
[HTC Rezound] qudwis:
thanks for the site..

this is the best feature for me on sense 4.0

*Beats Audio profile updated to work with third party applications*
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
I really kinda just wish sense would die. =\
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Or at least slim down... the added functionality is nice. It is the bloat and battery killing parts I want gone.
[HTC Rezound] I Am Marino:
Exactly.

Sense is far too intensive on the CPU.
[HTC Rezound] username235:
Why would you be on this phone then...? There's nothing but cavalcades of Sense here for us, because it's an HTC phone...
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
I pick my phones based on hardware. I'm not a fan of Sense, Widgets, and the like. That's why I'm here. I have an Android phone I can customize the way I like. That's why most people are here. Try to embrace that rather than judging people based on your feelings/convictions. That's what people that enjoy products from a certain "fruit themed company" do.
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
i think people need to stop complaining and/or stfu about sense already, it's getting old. we get it, you don't like sense. hooray for you. it seems the new "hip" thing to do is hate on sense, seriously. it's so god damn annoying to read. sense isn't going anywhere, so get over it. motoblur isn't going anywhere, and neither is any other manufactorers OS. stock android is ugly as sin, and ICS looks like a toy. atleast sense is going to bring visual appeal to ICS, whereas comparing ICS to iOS makes the nexus look like a toy.

tl;dr: shut up about sense, it's not going anywhere, and it's annoying to constantly read peoples hatred towards it. get over it.
[HTC Rezound] username235:
Lol damn dude. I was just wondering because all we have are sense roms. Don't get so hurt, I love AOSP too, I'm excited for it to finally come, but for now is it hard for you to even use this? Or do you use Senseless stuff or what? Just being friendly, don't get all hostile on me again.
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
I don't do hostile posts. I test everything because I like to play with it all. Can't say I don't like something if I never laid eyes/hands on it. Since I do theme and support work, I switch between sense'd and non-sense'd quite often.
[HTC Rezound] majorhunadadun:
Agreed! As it may be intrusive, it's still the best! This phone has been running great for me!
[HTC Rezound] mjh68:
I am new to Xda and HTC phones myself and I do like sense. The short time I have been on this site, I have noticed and strangely I might add. People seem to get way to hostile over the Sense vs Asop debate. People have different tastes and what they like and its just as much their choice as anything so why be condescending or hostile over their choice.

The reason I bought the rezound myself was hardware or I would have gotten the Gnex , because I like to mod and play around with different roms. Sense was a bonus for me , because to me its just a theme I can flash or not :)

Mr Smith is nothing , but courteous and helpful in the 2 forums I have been on so no reason to drag his choice into the debate.
[HTC Rezound] racinwarrior:
android is about choice. thats why it is different from all other brands/os.

the software can always be changed/rewritten, but you are stuck with the hardware.

like mrsmith i choose my phones based on hardware. i also happen to like sense so that i why i went with the rezound.

thats not so sat that i don like asop. i ran CM7 on my TB for that past 3 months, sense simply has more "polish" and "eye camdy" that i enjoy

personally i hope sense slims down a bit and some of the bloat and useless apps disappear, but finally they realize that beats audio should work for third party apps.

once my rezound is outdated, i will most likely end up with another HTC phone and it will be a 1.5 ghz quad core, 1 GB ram, 8/3 mp camera 10 mm thick sense 4.0 android 4.0 powered monster
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
What I found that I like in that article is the guest mode.

"You want to see my phone, sure hold on a second."

No more Facebook posts telling my family I am coming out or anything to that nature.
[HTC Rezound] racinwarrior:
so your friends do that too huh...
[HTC Rezound] EmerikL:
I think all of us have friends like that.
[HTC Rezound] icy1899:
Did you guys see 50gb of free fully integrated dropbox space!! I thought the 3gb we got was awesome. Did HTC. by dropbox or something?

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] a.mcdear:
I'm on this phone because it is the best phone on the market right now. It doesn't matter to me one bit what comes on the phone (Sense, blur, touchwiz, etc) except that sometimes (as it was with the Rezound initially) its impossibly hard to get rid of.

Now that I have removed like 95% of Sense/HTC related software from the system, installed my launcher of preference, I am extremely happy with my phone and battery life. I'm so glad I didn't get anything else on the market right now.

So there you have it... I picked out this phone because of the phone, not because of the manufacturer or whatever crap bloatware that particular manufacturer decided to burden us with. And just cause other people are sick of reading about how crappy Sense is does not mean I'm going to like it anymore or withhold my thoughts on the subject for their benefit. Negative reviews of a product are just as important as positive reviews.
[HTC Rezound] Volkaru:
While if I'm wrong it'd be awesome, but I think that's a typo, it'll probably be 5GB, to compete with apple's 5GB of free iCloud.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Collating known facts and informed opinion

There is no public pre-release of Win8 on ARM yet (and it might only ever be OEM only)

Should be a Windows 8 beta in February 2012? , but still might not be a public ARM beta

Win8 on ARM will need to be customised extensively by the OEM for their particular hardware

as it is NOT a general purpose system covering all standard components like Windows or Linux on x86 PC’s is

Needs ARM v7 cpu (but all modern tablets have a their cpu / SOC based on ARM v7)

Needs a UEFI firmware/‘bios’

and no existing Android/Thinkpad systems out there have this

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Wind...m-the-Maker-of-Instant-Boot-BIOS-205487.shtml

Will have a secure bootloader on ARM (but not on x86/x64)

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...ing-or-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it.ars

Win8 tablet spec

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-8-Microsoft-Tablet-x86-ARM,14504.html

?MB RAM, 10GB storage, 1366x768 screen

Some ARM related information mentioned on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8

There will be an Embedded Windows version of Win8 on ARM

http://www.windowsfordevices.com/c/a/News/Microsoft-promises-embedded-versions-of-Windows-8/

Running x86 apps on Windows ARM – not possible or v unlikely. Microsoft have not definitely confirmed that there wont be any x86 emulator, but unlikely in the limited space available

Maybe we will see a 3rd party Virtual Box or Boschs or similar to emulate x86 and some intercept dll’s to thunk the api calls to the relevant native ARM windows dll’s))

Will it run WP7 apps ? (Silverlight / processor neutral apps) – unknown, but should be easy to port

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Port-Windows-Phone-Apps-to-Windows-8-232615.shtml

There is a rumour of some internal HP testing of Win8 on Thinkpad

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/24/hp-testing-windows-8-on-touchpads/
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
The only (prototype) Windows 8 ARM tablet device seen to date, is the Qualcom one

http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...on-windows-8-based-prototype-pcs-previewed-mi

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392930,00.asp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BblNpUEp6N8

[This info copied from tbaker077's post in the HP Touchpad section, as it saved me having to look it up]

And Nvidia Tegra 3, TI OMAP4430 one

http://www.netbooknews.com/27326/nv...gon-powered-tablets-laptop-running-windows-8/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kElw2byX9EE&feature=relmfu

Both video clips from the recent Microsoft Windows 8 Build conference
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Next version of Windows Phone (WP8) to be based on Windows 8

(presumably Windows8 onARM)

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...s-8-kernel-and-integration-multiple-cores.ars
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Windows 8 on ARM should go to [OEM] developers in February

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-5...to-developers-soon-say-sources/?tag=txt;title
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Here's the latest definitive info from Microsoft

Its a very long and detailed Building Windows 8 blog posting

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/...ndows-for-the-arm-processor-architecture.aspx
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
A good write up of the latest news

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...-on-arm-and-why-apple-should-be-worried/18071
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Widows 8 Consumer Preview available today (Client and Server versions)

But Intel only

No ARM version other than via OEM's / 'testers'

Latest news on http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/its-windows-8-download-day-heres-what-we-know/12058

And no Domain or Enterprise management features on Windows on ARM !

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...-will-lack-enterprise-management-features.ars
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] dazza9075:
I see why MS would have decided to do this, ie split home and business tablets in to ARM and x86, and to be honest i think for the most part it would go that way anyway, but actively NOT putting one of the best features in windows on to a device is only going to reduce your customer base an i gt the feeling they are going to need all the support they can get on this one

The concept of what they are doing here is great but the implementation of it is quite frankly, terrible! but we shall just have to wait and see, nothing is set in stone yet
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Microsoft Confirms Lockdown of ARM Devices Running Windows 8

http://www.xda-developers.com/feature/microsoft-confirms-lockdown-of-arm-devices-running-windows-8/
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Windows RT

The official name of Windows on ARM is now announced as Windows RT

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx

Lots of disussion there about the naming
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] dazza9075:
RT is OEM only, confirmed
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
More on managing WOA (Windows RT) in a corporate environment, even though it can't be domain joined

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/...quot-pcs-in-the-enterprise-including-woa.aspx
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] dazza9075:
I have to say im starting to understand the ARM development a bit more after reading that.

I still think x86 is the way to go for a fully functional tablet (at least for me) but if the price is right on these arm units then I think there will be some serious thought going in to buying them
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] urboy4mbx:
x86 models would def go for a higher price because you would be able to run all Windows 8 Desktop software unlike on WinRT.

The main difference will be battery life and processing juice.

Anyways, I think Microsoft should give less options for the Windows 8 tablets and provide more support for the hardware.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] Rakeesh_j:
Not gonna happen. x86 is complex instruction set, ARM is reduced instruction set. Emulating ARM on x86 can be done with somewhat reasonable speed if you have a fast processor, but x86 on ARM is probably going to be ridiculously slow. ARM is more efficient, so clock for clock you get better speed with lower power requirements, but emulating CISC from RISC is ****ty.

As far as WINE style API hook intercepting, that is a real crapshoot because many apps do have some bits of assembly in there.

Anything that runs on the .Net platform should work in win8 ARM assuming that windows 8 includes the .net framework.

I disagree, ARM is far more practical for mobile applications due to it's massive energy efficiency advantage over x86.

Besides, as of yet there are no x86 based SoC's, it's all separate IC's, which reduces the energy efficiency even further. Intel has Medfield coming up, but I wouldn't count on that including a decent GPU.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] Useless guy:
Windows Phone uses the .Net Compact Framework, special version of the Silverlight, XNA and some phone-specific assemblies. It won't start on the desktop .Net, because it uses a different set of the assemblies, not saying that it uses a different CLR (especially the garbage collector).

But microsoft can write a special "layer" which will allow to run WP7 apps, but why is it needed? There is lots of crap in the marketplace.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] michiganenginerd:
You can write applications in .NET for WinRT, but they don't actually run in the CLR as we think of it today.

Best way to explain is to look at the linked image.

http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/davidburela.png

Think of the Green as what works on WinRT that you can purchase and install. (Things in blue on WinRT, cannot be sideloaded since you can only install from the store which sells Metro apps).

What is happening is the application you write in .NET, instead of going to IL to be run in a .NET CLR, is being sent to WinRT for execution.

Better explanation here:

http://csharperimage.jeremylikness.com/2012/03/net-and-metro-windows-runtime-and-clr.html

Would it be possible for a light CLR to be written in ARM for .NET apps to execute against, probably. But at this time, your .NET appears to be executed by WinRT. This means you get a subset of .NET that can execute on Windows 8 ARM as a METRO app being interpreted by WINRT.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
No sideloading of arm desktop apps

Just to re-iterate a point from the above post

As per the recent complaints by firefox etc, even if you build a standard aka desktop app and compile for ARM, you will not be able to deploy it as not signed

(and no side loading of desktop apps)

Might? be able to pursuade the Microsoft store to host it, as they will host deskop apps for Windows8, but not sure if they will allow desktop apps for WIndows 8 on ARM (Windows RT)

ALso unclear if ENterprise customers can have their own private app store for their corporate apps

Side loading of Metro apps on Windows RT is also unclear

Can get them from the store (signed) but again doesnt seem to be able to side load them ?

to be confirmed
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Windows 8 diet exposes Microsoft's weak ARM

Windows 8 diet exposes Microsoft's weak ARM

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/17/windows_8_package_confusion/

Good article comparing WIndows8 on x86/x64 to Windows RT on ARM

and the enevitable confusion
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] michiganenginerd:
These questions are answered here:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsstor...deploying-metro-style-apps-to-businesses.aspx

To Sideload:

You need to sign an application with a cert the machine trusts. (Can be your own cert, if you add it to cert store.)

Set 'Allow all trusted apps to install' in group policy or registry

Then either use a machine that is domain joined, or activate a special product key by using a script on the target machine to enable sideloading.

This will allow you to install via a variety of methods listed in the article.

While no 'private app store' has been listed, creating your own, would just be a quick website, that drops install requests in a queue, that are then executed by sccm or another deployment agent. On x86, you could create a background process to do it if you don't have a domain and a deployment agent.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Nice Windows RT on TI prototype

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/08/ti-demos-windows-rt-on-omap-we-go-hands-on-video/

Has very good video performance
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
desktop apps on Windows RT

This latest blog post about windows desktop apps seems to definitively state there will be no 3rd party Windows RT (ARM) desktop apps

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windowsstore/archive/2012/06/08/listing-your-desktop-app-in-the-store.aspx

ie the developer submission page only allows x86 and x64 entries

(And any ARM app would also need to be signed)
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
More on Windows RT app development

Mainly Metro apps

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jasonz/arch...-about-developing-for-windows-on-arm-woa.aspx

But notice the download of the Remote Tools (ARM version) to the ARM device

and the following info dialog
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Screen shot of Office 2103 RT

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/arm-powered-windows-rt-to-run-office-2013-rt/
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] xsoliman3:
Microsoft Surface Tablets

Guess I'd better mention the Microsoft designed and manufactured Tablets they have just announced. Using (re-using) the Surface name

Theres an ARM one running Windows RT (and UBS 2.0, and OfficeRT apps) 32GB/64GB

And an Intel one running Windows 8 Professional (thicker and has USB 3.0, stylus, "Full HD Display", displayport, 64Gb/128GB)

http://www.microsoft.com/surface

http://www.microsoft.com/global/surface/en/us/renderingassets/surfacespecsheet.pdf