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[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
@FormHault

What governor are you using, and what app are you using to control it ?

SetCPU?

No Frills?

System Tuner?

Interactive for me gives me good battery , slightly slower response

Ondemand drains slightly more battery, but better response

These I would say, are the major governors that has been there for a very long time within all the kernels , and actually works

Anthrax has some problems with graphic occasionally, and struggles sometimes with lags, glitches and even a reboot (as I mentioned in my notes) doesnt cure it

chad.goodman mentioned somewhere in his thread that he needs to spend days to fix the GPU code, which I think he did, but didnt release (thanks to the drama created by other forumers from other devices)

I would recommend unity3b (for battery), leedroid 3.70(performance overall), anthrax (only for USB host), anryl (for ponury gesture, slide to wake feature)

but all of them have some bugs small minor bugs, which I am not sure what ROM you are running on

ICS SHOULD , but knowing HTC, they say;

ICS - End March for Sensation, mid year for EVO devices

we might need to wait really long..

As I spoken with 3c (battery monitor widget) developer on XDA, he already mentioned that the driver code is broken across all of HTC newer devices

so if SENSATION gets ICS, and battery monitor widget doesnt work there, we might never see that working for us as well :D dumb HTC
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
I was using Ondemand, but I hear it's only for CPU0. CPU1 seems to stay offline most of the times. Lee has a patch to force CPU1 in either Ondemand either Interactive, but I don't know if it works with other kernels than Lee's.

System Tuner is what I use. Lee reccomended it. No-frills is only for single cores, am I right?

Isn't Lee's V3.70 kernel still faulty? He said he'll work on it, so it's not really final... right?

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Nevermind Battery Monitor then. I doubt we can use Sensation drivers for EVO 3D. I'm pretty sure they WILL release new drivers... it should be, right? -.-

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Unity has bugs with games. Anthrax with games and battery. Lee with data. JESUS !
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
on all accounts, you are right :D

Ondemand for CPU0 , which does 384 to 1180, then gradually lower CPU however CPU1, acts on its on free will (dun even know what governor it runs, and its as if it runs on whatever it likes :D)

CPU1 stays offline most of the time, which is good, because it saves us battery and mostly todays use, its not required :) i use

"Usage Timelines" and "CPU Usage" to check both the bars, with frequency and notice that very seldom CPU1 needs to wake up

patch does keep the CPU1 on interactive/ondemand as long as you dont set 192mhz , if I read correctly

3.70 kernel is temporary, 3.80 is being worked on by LEEDROID at the moment, or the last time i read his thread.

system tuner is the way to go, either 1.44 or 1.47. I remember versions in between had problems and I had to Titanium it to get proper governor settings and CPU speeds

no confirmation with ICS and HTC drivers for BMW, but HTC messed up all the code for IDLE reporting repeatedly on each device, and carried them through each ! idiots !

so the problem was passed down generation to generation, without ever being fixed :D

so if SENSATION has messed ICS battery drivers by HTC end of march, i assume they will also pass this code from generation to generation to our EVO 3D :D

you dont have to follow my observations word for word. my ROM is different than yours and you should try them yourself :)

bugs and glitches in games can mostly be solved by reboot

and battery reporting and drain mostly is up 2 your use, and own charge observations.

for data, leedroid 3.70 and anryl 10.05 both times out, and only when I turn the screen on, data gets connected back again ( i use DNS changer to see a notification each time my data reconnects )

irritating :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
I guess I'll stick to AnthraX until Lee's 3.80 is out. I'll flash again that patch... gotta figure first, which is better : lock CPU1 Ondemand or Interactive?!

I noticed too that CPU1 stays offline most of the time. My question is : does it get activated when needed (say, high-intensive graphics) or... -.-

Let's just hope they'll figure they need new drivers for ICS. ICS should require new drivers... RIGHT!??!?!?!?!
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Yes it gets activated

Interactive, battery

Ondemand, performance

Oh yes, but knowing ICS and HTC, not.even going to be excited about sense

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[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
Forces CPU1 Online = 1 using the ondemand governor and a power save bias of 20%

Forces CPU1 Online = 1 using the interactive governor

That's what it says on LeeDrOiD's topic. Ondemand governor = power saver? Or using interactive you get >20% power save?

I just tried Lee's 3.7 kernel. Pocket / Star legends lag even more! Also, the screen (home screen & app drawer) and pulldown also lag (stutter)!!! Only if I OC it to 1.94 GHz the stuttering in home screen stops; but app drawer & pulldown and Pocket / Star Legends still lag like F***!!!

I tried flashing the patch that forces CPU1 online to ondemand. Using System Tuner I didn't notice ANY DIFFERENCE at all. CPU1 still offline.

I suspect those two patches don't work with Lee's 3.7 kernel? They do work with AnthraX, though, and I believe I'll stick to AnthraX for now...
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
what ROM are you using specifically ?

and what launcher?

sounds very specific, since I dont experience any of those, unless you come from IPHONE/IPAD background .. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
LeeDrOiD latest ROM. I did like ROMeOS3D, but Quadrant showed 900 score even with AnthraX OC`ed to 1.5 GHz, so I decided I'd better switch back to Sense...

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Just updated to LeeDrOiD 3.5.0. Also, he released kernel 3.8.0. Check it out!

So far it's running very smooth. Seems like the latest ROM/kernel update did the thing.

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Nevermind the 3.5.0. It turned out there still were bugs. Lee seems to have fixed even more things with the v4.0.0 of the kernel! It's up!
[HTC EVO 3D] neol23:
Hi All

Can someone provide a link for the latest AntraX_GSM_Sense 3.0 Kernel?

Many thanks,
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
Sure. HERE it is. It works on both Sense 3.0 AND 3.5. It's reported to have GPU issues on Sense 3.0 ROMs though... but on the other hand, it works flawlessly on Sense 3.5.

I suggest grabbing LeeDrOiD V4.1.0 kernel. It fixes the GPU issues AnthraX has. Also, AnthraX seems to be advancing quite slowly (no new release lately).
[HTC EVO 3D] neol23:
I am using actually at the moment lee's 4.1.0 :) .

Just wanted to have this one also ;) ...

Thanks, mate!

...

Just flashed v4.0.1 kernel over 5.3.0 rom.

So far so good - no problems at all for the couple of hours - everything seems to be ok for me with those CPU settings:

Min 192mhz - Max 1,51ghz

Governor - interactive

CPU max-speed load at 80

Screen off - 192mhz

Screen off in call - 594mhz

Here the CPU table - UV -200 (?!) in higher freq.s - still stable, no reboots:

Antutu without SD Card - scores just 3000, thoug (kamma's kernel for compare scores with same settings 5500)...

But as far as everything works - doesn't matter for me ;)...

The ROM itself is PERFECT!

I hope to last with this kernel this time as well!

Thanks, Dr. Lee :)!!!

Send from... Somewhere :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
i will be testing anryl 10.07 and leedroid 4.10

i was using unity3b today for a full day, and the battery was still quite the amazing

12 hours and at 50%, and usually for me, it would be at 15% :D

for some other reasons, leedroid 3.80 ripped thru battery for me, and it was the first time leedroid kernels did that and now skeptical about 4.10 kernel :D

still gotta test it anyways ^_^
[HTC EVO 3D] neol23:
Have tested both allready - with same settings mentioned above - same results for battery life (25 hours, 5 hours usage, 2 hours screen ON), performance and others - all the same!

Just antutu scores are diff:

Anryl's gives me back 5000-5500 (no SD card);

Lee's - 3000-3300 (no SD card).

Funny thing is that I cannot see/feel the difference in performance by using the phone/gaming/browsing ...

So one more proof that the Antutu B. is total bull**** ;) ... :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
agreed..benchmarks are bull****, but there are people who still follow it :D

lol

anyways, im on anryl 10.07 and gonna probably see if it lasts 24 hours, which i think it easily can :)

leedroid's was abit off, so im going to test anryl first before going back to leedroid
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
Anryl... Is that Akernel, as in the kernel of that guy who follows Kamma's kernels?
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Yup, my opening post stated he continues kammas work

Have a look lar anryl thread. It has the kernels there 10.00-10.07

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[HTC EVO 3D] stylohaku:
Anryl has update its kernel to 11.03 but so far the battery life not as good as 10.07 which give better lurve to my juice.

However, my best and amazing pair would be mikrunny qhd rom + leedroid 3.8.0 kernel.

Has a slight battery issue on leedroid 4.1.0 so i switch back to Anryl 10.07. Now lee just posted 4.2.0 version which have not test it yet.
[HTC EVO 3D] Traxex_:
4.2 fixed the deep sleep issue and should give much better battery lifetime.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
i usually get home and download a new kernel, and test run it for a day from 100%

and during sleeping periods, for % drain per hour

i also usually wait for a stable release, for example 3.80 -> 4.2.0 had unstable and alot of discrepancies between users and results

a big jump from anryl 10.07 to 11.03 i reckon, , but I would also need to test that out for our thread once that is stable.. wouldnt bother testing something that drains higher amounts of battery (anything below 1% per hour) is unacceptable

in a not so "OFFICIAL" test , running 10.07 battery test during the night pulled a rough average of 46 minutes per % during idle EDGE
[HTC EVO 3D] stylohaku:
Lee is lightning fast now in version v 4.2.1 already. Now testing for battery life.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
its too much to test kernels , especially battery life when 2-3 releases are done per day so i will let that kernel settle first, and let lee work on ROM then i will pick that kernel up and go thru the tests

4.2.1 sounds good, especially usually after changing something major in the chain fux everything else up for a while :D
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
tested Leedroid 5.3.5 kernel and modified results

top kernels still lies between Leedroid 5.3.5 and Anryl 10.07

these are also kernels which support Ponury Gesture :)
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Why does everyone say anryl has better than batt life. For me unity has always been better

Sent from my mythical enchanted asynchronous 3VO
[HTC EVO 3D] TeroZ:
There is something interesting you should notice.

ICS Roms have MUCH BETTER graphic performance with Nenamark2 44fps.

And I have no idea why this is happening though...

try this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1493242
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
it is reported that most phones have better graphic performance on ICS :)

my friends SGS2 now has even higher FPS on ICS in games and nenamark, and even Counterstrike Portable (where he was intiitally lagging like mad)

in ICS, the OS has been coded to allow GPU to accelerate more components of the graphical side of things, where previously it was more on the CPU:)

for battery life , i do recommend unity3b

if you read my opening post, unity 3b has the lowest idle drain, tested a few times

the rest of the kernels usually range from 55minutes to 65minutes, 1% drained

however, i use PONURY GESTURE, which requires the Leedroid / Anryl kernels, hence I mentioned those :)

if you dont need those, you can use Unity or Antrhax :)

unity was able to hit 70 minutes easily and thats without undervolting, just pure stock
[HTC EVO 3D] Lubihn:
And that's the point.

This is/was a big difference between Android and IOS or WP7.

And that's the reason why an iPhone always seems to be smoother than an Android phone, even though the most Android devices got powerfull hardware.
[HTC EVO 3D] didoop:
nice work

Hello!

Very nice work, i really admire it(and you ofc). It must have consumed alot of time, for me it takes 1 month to make decision for full wipe :D. Anyway, am I blind that I cannot see results of latest kernels (for examle leedrod 5.x.x) ?
[HTC EVO 3D] TeroZ:
I know ICS will let GPU do more works than previous version. But I've heard the latest SPRINT EVO 3D(CDMA) system update(gingerbread) can bump the score to ~44fps too. And OTHER phones(LG/SONY) using MSM8x60 have a similar performance, which is much better than our EVO 3D.

Even looking at Rezound, which have a 720p screen, with Gingerbread, scores more on nenamark2 then ours.

I am just suspecting HTC did some performance cap.( Yeah, some sort of marketing.. )

And the best of ICS is its full-accelerated UI.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
there were many kernels released, especially between 4.2.1 and 5.x.x

i only tested something that leedroid officialy released. it takes some time to go through the procedures, and also when I find the time to do it without affecting my daily use

but sometimes i get really COMFORTABLE with a kernel, and dont bother flashing others to test out :) For example, Unity 3b at one stage, and Anryl at another. I cycle through the kernels when able for u guys :)

nonetheless, 5.3.5 by leedroid was officially released and I used that in my opening post. the rest of leedroid, was pushed to The Vault

if HTC capped our performance, our devleopers would have found out :)

and nenamark might be a bad app for our 3D , perhaps ^_^

benhcmarks tell half the tale

EDIT:

Anryl also released a 11.03 kernel, which he said wasnt too stable itself

as I tested it with the games, benchmarks and battery, there were obvious problems

I didnt include those results in here, unless someone asks for it

I personally think anryl did a really good job working from kamma's kernel, 10.01 and I did run through to 10.07
[HTC EVO 3D] Traxex_:
Thanks for the update.

Shouldn't it be LeeDrOiD 5.3.5 instead of 4.3.5? xP
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
sorry mate, typo, lol :)

no wonder ppl were asking about the latest :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
1.19

updated battery observations and drain test updated :)

seems pretty decent for me, seriously

will keep this for 1 more day, then swap over to anryl and see whether its consistent in

the same in terms of Battery & Performance

look forward to testing the next Leedroid kernel though :)
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
Why are nenamark 2 scores so low ?

the cdma meanrom scores in the 45 fps range, can a fix be got from that ?
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
perhaps its the ROM

perhaps its ICS

for me, the nenamark score is very consistent at 25-30 FPS

have you gotten different results?
[HTC EVO 3D] TeroZ:
It's NOT ICS related.

CDMA users with 2.17.651.5 official OTA update can achieve ~44fps and have better overall system responsiveness.

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http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/83734?start=0&tstart=0

FYI, There are user comments about that update.
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
Is the gsm model to get this update? better performance as well as battery
[HTC EVO 3D] TeroZ:
That's a tragedy. We don't have such an sweet update.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
They got the update back in January so I believe that's for them , cdma

For us, we don't have the update hence development can't follow up and improve on it.

Hope we do get it, or ICS soon

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[HTC EVO 3D] ronniecr7:
only 4 people said thank you?

This is one of the most useful post I have seen!
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
My thread has 3 posts

As of today;

First post 26 Thanks

Second post 4 Thanks <---- ronniecr

Third post 1 Thanks

You, Thanked the SECOND POST (The changelogs)

So nope, not only 4 people, but a alot more of them did on the first

LOL its up to people to thank what helped them :)

Apparently, third post is useless (The Vault)

Epic. I should scrap old kernel history because apparently those are useless as well :D
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Updated detailed settings for my daily usage battery which I always configure from start on any Android

Added a simple guide of mv and battery % relations, and how to read what it is actually

Thanks to canyon1991 for providing answers to my questions about his configuration

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=23720255&postcount=1089
[HTC EVO 3D] ilovemeow:
thanks mate, if you have time just test the leedroid 538 as well it's battery consumption is pretty good ;)

i used for 14hr from 100->20%
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
jcsy, I suggest you bench LeeDrOiD kernel v5.3.8. It's a lot better than v5.3.5, and also, it's the last GINGERBREAD kernel Lee's releasing.

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On another note...

Radio : 10.53...

ROM : MikRunny 1.11

Kernel : what the ROM has, AnthraX #16 or something

Battery drain : 1% over night (7 hours). :eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] conny005:
in my opinion LeeDrOiD kernel v5.3.3 is the best
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
I do have 5.3.8 kernel available and tested for a day however, was busy and needed my phone to be stable (so i swapped to anryl 10.07)

I will test that kernel's battery life. so far, i am able to UV on anryl 10.07 , which does save some battery... and has very low point for 1.5ghz built in.

for leedroid, I havent tested normal, and UV but perhaps I shall try

was 5.3.3 any good?
[HTC EVO 3D] ilovemeow:
cool man :cool:

good on you
[HTC EVO 3D] fksuperstar:
Bro I've using mikrunny sense 3.5 custom Rom ... Am I enable to flash lee kernel ?

Sorry for noob question ... Hehe:):)
[HTC EVO 3D] nikosblade:
Yes you are, i use the same combo.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Is the 1% the 99% drop to 98%?

I noticed 99% takes much longer to drop, while the rest is stable. Also depends on whether data is turned on or not, as mine is with edge.

Anyways, has a quick glance at that ROM and personally felt sense 3.5 and its bugs are still present. U r always welcome to use other ROM , and perhaps custom kernels too if their battery is better.

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[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
Would putting the Alpha S4x Virtous rom in the charts be a nice idea ?

It shows good reference to what performance can be with outstanding scores in Quadrant and Nenamark 2.
[HTC EVO 3D] christan:
5.3.3 had best battery life and stability so far but id recommend the latest one... Anyway i prefer mikrunny and anthrax kernel
[HTC EVO 3D] ilovemeow:
do you mean kernel V5.3.2 ?
[HTC EVO 3D] christan:
Ouch not sure at all :confused: Could have been the 5.3.2 one too ... But I had in mind I really liked this 5.3.3 kernel pretty much ...

Anyway - THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS COMPARISON, jcsy !!!

This helped me very much! And now I´m using exactly the same configuration on my Evo 3D as you :D

-> 10.55.xx Radio, ROMeOS 3D 1.3.2, Anryl 10.07 + -62,5mV UV, 384MHz -> 1,51 GHz Interactive, and lovely Evo 3D ;)

Really amazed of battery life and just anything :cool:

River
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
ROMEOS has released 1.3.3

Milkrunny has bugs, just like any Sense 3.5

Alpha, S4x Virtous ROM's are like its name, alpha / beta :)

there might pull high results in benchmarks, but compromises in various other ways.

I believe I am going to stick with the ROM I am testing, for the benefit of everyone here following the kernel & thread discussion. I respect everyone own personal decision to use what ROM they like. I believe almost every ROM out there other than ROMEOS does have higher benchmarks (as I have read many threads here and looked at those results and went "wow, nice benchmark") *JEALOUS*. However, like my disclaimer, benchmarks and performance doesn't mean much, just shows our device average.

I am just providing kernel differences, with some battery observations, sometimes graphic glitches.

On random note;

Today I showed my device to an Iphone4s user with 3D pictures.

His answer "I'm sure there is an app for that"

I always want to be able to whip out my EVO3D and show what this device is different about, and what it can, and should be doing without any glitches :) ROMEOS ROM does that perfectly, any day
[HTC EVO 3D] christan:
N thats it :D

Every day I gotta show sb my Evo 3D and I dont want any alpha versions with glitches that ruin my nice experience ...

Sad that you need Premium Access to download 1.3.3 ... but I dont have paypal :(
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
I'm sure u can pm monx to arrange another method

However, beats really is a gimmick

Not noticeable difference. Srs is actually bette, but that's personal preference ...

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[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
No, the battery was at 70% or so... Can't really remember.

I don't exactly like Sense 3.5. The new Phone, Messaging, MUSIC apps... I like those from Sense 3.0 more :rolleyes:

So I'm back on LeeDrOiD.

If I struggle my mind a bit, I think I remember V5.3.3 was the best, yeah. At least until we've got V5.3.8 :P . Have a look HERE to see the improvements (over V5.3.3). Mar 11 - V5.3.8. Feb 28 - V5.3.5, I believe.

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Not exactly. Alpha = not even beta = very unstable.

I tried Virtuous Inquisition (Android 4.0.3, AOSP)... It's fast, alright. Tried Asphalt 6 -> was blazing fast ! You know why? Smokes and other graphic stuff were missing (only the vectorial space assigned to the effects was present); the game crashed 5 seconds after the race began :rolleyes:

Also, the Quadrant Standard scores were pretty amazing...

My old Desire HD had scores in Quadrant (AOSP) similar to those of the EVO 3D (Sense). The Desire HD was laggy in Asphalt 6... So... go figure...

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I have a colleague with an iPhone 4S. He was claiming his device was faster. But then I showed him why mine is 30fps in menu not 60 like his : SENSE EXPERIENCE !

The 3D pictures are just a fancy... They suck, in the end.

The only reasons I wanted the EVO 3D were : beautiful design, powerful beast.

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Not sure what's going on in ROMeOS you're using... LeeDrOiD w/ Beats = AWESOME. I really do feel the difference.

Oh, also, the difference was barely there (on MikRunny, Sense 3.5). Also, SRS and Dolby barely felt like they were present, too... :)

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YEAH, I MADE THIS POST BIG

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[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
Hi mates!

I tried flashing a Custom Kernel and had the results as bellows:

1. Rom Leedroid V.5.3 + Kernel Anryl 10.7 :

After 8 hours of working: a few calls and sms, check mail, web or game (about 10 minutes), battery drain from 100 % to 30%. I think it drain same as stock rom with stock kernel.

2. Rom Ledroi V.5.3 + Kernel Unity V3b + Undervolting

After 8 hours of working: a few calls and sms, check mail, web or game (about 10 minutes), battery drain from 100% to 50%.

My conclusion: Kernel Unity V3b + Undervolting makes battery life is maximum 1.5 days in normal use.

Can somebody has other method to reach the better battery life than my results (ex : 2 days or 2.5 days) ? Pls show me how. Many tks for your instruction :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
i think in my opening post, i mentioned kernel unity3b is one of the best overall for battery in IDLE tests... actual usage might vary though

with unity3b with UNDERVOLTING, that should even be better however there were some graphic glitches, and performance glitches here and there with unity3b which I didnt enjoy. some camera, some gaming etc

did you try some of the settings I mentioned in the first post, on my configuration ?

that should help abit ?