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[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
yeah but how long was Sense 3.0 out before these phones got that upgrade?

I just dont see HTC updating a device and then updating it again with another Major OTA within 6mo...Just a waste of development there. b/c if the reason to not give sense 4.0 at start is that the new devices with sense 4.0 are coming out, then theres no way they would give sense 4.0 to sensation till after these said devices are out and on market for many months, if i had to think.

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yeah "they care" and the fact the DHD got it is the only reason why im slightly thinking the Sensation would get sense 4.0 to begin with anyway. The way I understand it, is the foreign carriers do not have the grip the US ones like Sprint/VZ do in terms to OTA updates and such. Hence the EVO4G staying on OG Sense version and then seeing others get updates. Seems ones that get major updates typically are foreign carrier devices no?

but im with ya. i could care less if HTC rolls 4.0 to sensation/evo3d and others personally as i know itll be here on xda anyway. and thats all that matters.

I will ask though, for those that have used the Sense 3.6 rom from mike, what features are in 4.0 that are not in 3.6 exactly? besides the dropbox size and all that stuff. (dunno why but my mind is blank on them here. long night last night to say the least. lol)
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Ive kept the things that are new.. of course most things are improvements.. like browser, cam, lockscreen. Also some new integrations.

Landcape homescreen, HTC speak, guest mode etc are new.

Then of course some visual changes
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
So Sense 3.6 gave nothing really more than a new rosie and such??

ie. nothing in that list is in Sense 3.6 at all?
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
new sense 4.0 rom from m-deejay for us :D
[HTC Sensation] omar302:
The Desire S was announced last February (2011) and got Sense 3.0 in September 2011 (7 months later) even though the Desire S was never a "flagship" model.

The Sensation was announced back in April (10 months ago) and started selling in June (8 months ago), so it is time for a major upgrade!
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
Great point, I don't think HTC will use sense 4.0 as a usp, I think the tegra 3 will serve that purpose and as far as upgrades go, why are HTC upgrading the sensation line before other HTC phones? Because they need one and I think it will be a big one
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Dont think you can base it off of when the phone was announced but as to when the last major Sense upgrade took place. Id say being upgraded from Sense 3.0 to Sense 3.6 is a solid upgrade no? Tack on 6mo from when 3.6 happens and maybe thats when to expect sense 4.0....that is long as the phones with 4.0 are released near the time you get sense 3.6/android4.0.3 OTA.
[HTC Sensation] omar302:
In my opinion, Sense 3.6 is just a "test" release.

There was 3.0 in the Sensation, 3.5 in the XL & Rezound. The first leaked ICS (3.06?) I recall was also reffered to as "3.5" but had the "3.6" dock! 3.6 looks more like 4.0 than 3.5, so it should be numbered closer to 4.0!

But on the other hand, HTC did previuosly have Sense 2.0 then 2.1, then skipped all the way to 3.0! So all is still possible.

Again, even if they upgrade the Sensation to 4.0, it won't hurt any sales since even the Ville (which will be a "mid" range) will sport a newer "S4" processor. That leaves the Sensation in the dust! So it does need atleast Sense 4.0 to keep leave some life in it!

Just thaughts!!!
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
The dock is an ICS dock with sense UI overlay
[HTC Sensation] zukа:
There's no way the Sensation will get an official Sense 4.0 upgrade in the next six months. It's one of the major selling points of the three new flagship phones (One S, One X, One V), and if they give their current userbase that selling point it's less incentive to upgrade.

Unfortunately, we're going to have to wait for a proper ROM dump from the One S to make its way to the Sensation before we get to see 4.0, because it would make no marketing sense (har) to give one of the major benefits of an upgrade for free to people who've already paid up.

It's okay, our custom rom community is great and I imagine there'll be a proper leaked One S RUU very soon.
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
True... We probobly won't see 4.0 tillafter the desire hd get ics or hopefully with jellybean but I doubt the latter.
[HTC Sensation] hitnrock:
I think the sensation will get ICS with 4.0 sense.

The way I see it is, HTC know that most people who buy android phones are always complaining that their phones don't receive upgrades (Not talking about minor updates).

They recently updated the Desire to sense 3.0 and people have gone bat-**** crazy about HTC. Constant moaning about not getting updates has been replaced by praise.

Now most of these people don't know **** about rooting and stuff.

But next time they're going to buy a phone it's going to be an HTC (one of the new phones like the three phones that are going to release) simply because they know that their phones will get an update, which in turn means they don't have to buy a new phone when something new pops up on the grid.

As for those 'intelligent ones' who do know their ****, will buy a the new phones simply because of hardware changes.

And when more people buy HTC phones, there'll be more people who are satisfied with HTC products and seeing them other people will buy HTC too.

Maybe they have stopped trying to sell Sense 4.0(it is and will be part of the reason why people buy HTC, but they're trying to make it not the only reason) and have realized that better service could actually stand them in good stead.

Of course this could all be a pile of ****.
[HTC Sensation] evo21:
Just tried the Virtuous S4X ROM, most things are working and Sense 4.0 is very nice, but it's too unstable for daily use. I hope the One S ROM will be more stable on the Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] roytev:
when apple update the new ios every previous devices get it in the anouncment day so htc learn from that
[HTC Sensation] lws803:
Hmm does this contain the new sense 4.0 or just sense 3.6? Oh and according to this, the sense 4.0 update wil most probably come during mwc after the announcement
[HTC Sensation] olly2009:
Desire has been upgraded to gingerbread, still with old sense. Only cooked roms have sense 3.0 even 3.5. Or I missed something ?
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
Maybe he mean Desire S and desire HD?
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
yes and no. If HTC were to do what Apple does then here is what would happen....They would roll out Sense 3.6 just as it is but rename it Sense 4.0. Apple did this with their last iOS update not giving siri to all devices but still calling it the same iOS version #. They also leave out devices with iOS updates too when they get old enough, and also they are not supporting near as many devices as HTC is so in reality comparing the two to each other is not logical imho.
[HTC Sensation] hitnrock:
Yeah actually I did.

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They've already adopted apple's habit of similar shaped body for alot of their phones(For eg. Iphone 3 and 3g, 4 and 4s) with Sensation and XE etc.
[HTC Sensation] Eisbrecher88:
I´ve tested today Sense 4.0 @ my Sensation. Looks pretty cool.

The cube style is awesome. I hope there will be an official update for our Sensation to Sense 4.0
[HTC Sensation] Dundidongo:
That Sense 4.0 looks awesome
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Ha just bc the body is similar doesn't mean anything. LOL

Internals are vastly different across all HTC phones as well as the software code needed. Can't compare HTC to Apple. And apple has dropped phones off their update list too so all of them don't get the updates, and even worse when they do they don't get all the features...
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
I hope too... I love sense 4.0 :'(
[HTC Sensation] townay:
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-one-x-first-press-shot-image

yep, they dropped the extra capacitive button
[HTC Sensation] wintan29:
A new video and some screenshots of Sense 4.0 (Virtuous S4X ROM) over @ htc-hub.com (sorry, can't post clickable links)

Looks pretty awesome!
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
[YOUTUBE]fbFhw5T6bgk[/YOUTUBE]

Ive made a video myself! check it out!

works good, looks better then i thought actually!

really like it!

HIT THANKS!!!!
[HTC Sensation] dexter93:
Psssst .. may I tell you a secret? Sensation = sensation xe. SAME HARDWARE.
[HTC Sensation] mastmnmn:
it means you port the rom by yourself?

i saw it.sense4 is realy fantastic.i hope see it sooner than htc official sense 3.6 on sensation.

is there any bug with in?
[HTC Sensation] dexter93:
It means he made the video, not the rom. There are attempts to port sense 4.. and with less bugs than I imagined..
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Haha that's great. I could of sworn modacco was sure they removed all buttons. Lol
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
new pics of the new HTC Ville aka One S

LINK
[HTC Sensation] townay:
^The One S with the top removable cover with all the antenna contacts. Not sure what the purpose is but I dont think that would be necessary. Pretty sure the sim dont go there. I am guessing the sim is loaded from the bottom panel
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Must be either the micro-sim or the memory card..
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
I must ask, where did you get the white back for the xe? I really like the black and red but white and red looks quiet nice too
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Yeah i love it to! All my friends wonders if i bought a new phone; ) but i bought it on ebay for like 32 usd
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
EXCLUSIVE: HTC One X Full Official Photos and specs leaked ahead of MWC [Photos + Specs]

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...s-and-specs-leaked-ahead-of-MWC-Photos-Specs-
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
If thats true.. no 50 gb but 25 gb storage on dropbox for 2 years..

Also, no super amoled plus screen, but super lcd2 screen...

I guess only time will tell
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
the phones that are going to have super amoled (not Super amoled PLus) are HTC One S and HTC One V....

just time will tell how good LCD2 will be... i hope its good enough =)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
Just for you guys to follow along today here are the 2 live blog links for you to follow the PC thats later on today around 2:30pm EST time i think.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/live-from-the-htc-press-conference-at-mwc-2012/

http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/26/live-from-htcs-mwc-2012-press-conference/
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
been busy all day long, does anyone know whats been said at HTC meet-up?

tomorrow is a big day!!! MWC, here we go! cant wait! hope HTC shocks us (even though the most have already been leaked)
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
The PC has started... The moment of truth is almost here people... Come on Sense 4.0 for sensation line let's hope we get it :)

Hmm so nothing related to our phones... :(
[HTC Sensation] zukа:
Three Sense 4.0 phones announced, and we knew all about them due to leaks:

One X: Tegra 3, 4.7 inch screen

One S: S4, 4.3 inch screen

One V: 1ghz single core, 3.7 inch screen

A ROM dump from the latter two is going to be the only way the Sensation sees Sense 4.0 before Q3 or 4 of this year. HTC didn't say that, but it stands to reason they would want to keep the newest software for the latest phones for at least a few months.

The main thing emphasised in the press conference was how fast the new One phones can take photos - 0.7 seconds between hitting the shutter and being ready to snap the next one. You can take stills while you're recording HD video, which is pretty nifty, and Sense 4.0 has been designed to be a lot more minimalistic than the 3x series. There's no carousel animation on unlocking and the color scheme matches closer with ICS.

The One X looks dramatically different to the leaked renders, as can be seen here. If anything, it looks like the HTC Trophy or Radar WP7 phones.

The One S looks exactly as expected - a slimmed down Sensation. The only difference is the camera housing is blue, as you can see in this video, which IMO doesn't look good.

The One V is an upgraded Legend, slightly thinner with a larger screen, and will be a very good low end phone.

All in all I'm a lot more excited about Sense 4.0 than I am the new phones, although the S4 chip in the One S is set to blow all the current dual cores out of the water (2.53 times faster than the Galaxy S II).
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
THE HTC ONE X WILL ARRIVE TO THE U.S. WITH AT&T EXCLUSIVELY WITH DUAL-CORE ONLY

once again the US carriers mess with the good things....

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/htc-one-x-exclusive-to-atandt/
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Gosh.. i feel bad for ya! I guess ppl will import from EU now... (thats what i would do)
[HTC Sensation] Solar_:
I love the new ImageSense feature in Sense 4.0. I also love the One S his processor. S4-Krait!

And ofcourse the max. 60fps 1080p video recording with video stabilizing.

I want the One S so badly.. it's slim, nice, fast and awesome. But I only have this Sensation XE for 4 months and with a 2 years plan.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
I don't know how its over there but can't you sell the XE, keep the plan.. buy the 1S (no plan) and be one happy guy :)
[HTC Sensation] Solar_:
Hey yeah that's smart. Then I have to buy a SIM-free One S.

I want ittttt.

But.. if it had a 720p screen.. I would be in the upperheaven.
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
no way i'd take that S4 with LTE over the terga 3 any day of the week. 28nm > 40nm big time also LTE integrated is huge.

put most the info gathered from the event in my thread over in the 3D section btw.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=23002938

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ImageSense was the highlight of the whole thing imho. the improvements they made int he camera and lens they are going to be using should make the camera 100x better than it is now. imho

personally im just not a fan of the built in battery and no SD card as I like having a backup safety net for info in case say my phone gets fried in water or bricks, I still have my Sd card. yeah syncing with the cloud everything would help but that would kill my battery doing it or be time consuming to do it on my computer freq enough to be worth it.
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
The 3d multitasking that wasnt mentioned

I think it looks more beautiful than the stock one, or not guys?? ;)
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
i want the htc one x (white)!!!!

im in love <3
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
+1! much better!

HTC needs to do something with the appdrawer. cannot keep the plain right/left thing. WE NEED ANIMATIONS! either card-like, box like, 3d like - or in the same style as in settings (one following the other)
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
just to remember ppl, SGS2 did only have 800x480 and ppl are not complaining that much about it as long as it got a good screen in general. qHD is good enough!

really it doesent to much difference, just the name "720p HD"
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
EDIT:

never mind engadget is all over the place with specs and can't get their s##t together. anandtech confirmed it was S4 and i trust them more than any other blog. it has the MSM8260A in it evidently.
[HTC Sensation] townay:
because for the most part, samoled+ is playing tricks with the users eyes lol.

to me, samoled+ pushes the contrast too hard, though others swear that its just how the colors are meant to be
[HTC Sensation] jriv:
So did I read corrctly that the x one will feature hspa+ so it will be T-Mobile 4g? Kind of like the gsm version of the galaxy nexus

Sent from a guy living in a van down by the river
[HTC Sensation] ced357:
What i don't like after one test of sense 4:

-I prefer the precedent clock widget... Why do they put a new one without get the last ???

-Where is carroussel effect ??? There is a long time i made wish to htc that we can put more than 7 home on screen...

Does my Sensation my last HTC... Not possible, but sense 3.6 is amazing...
[HTC Sensation] monkey29992:
I personally LOVE the new camera app... Can't wait for the official update. Also, I feel like the HTC One S is like the HTC One "Sensation" as in the specs are similar and even the design is kind of similar :D
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Specs might seem similar.. but basic stuff like processor, camera, screen etc have been massively improved!

Only thing about one S that I don't like is the ugly camera in the back! Why does it have to pop out that much?

Look at iPhone... Is all build in, much nicer!
[HTC Sensation] lws803:
Hmmm any predicaments that HTC might release the new sense 4.0 for sensation soon?
[HTC Sensation] Electronic Punk:
An embarrassing situation?
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Why?
[HTC Sensation] monkey29992:
According to HTC's Facebook page the update will come with the LATEST Sense version, and since they've already unfolded Sense 4 on the HTC One Series, it is most likely that the update will include Sense 4. I'm just wondering how big the update will be and how the update procedure will be like (will apps and data be saved, and stuffs like that, since this is going to be quite a huge update)
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Any link? Haven't seen any such announcements, either on FB or on Twitter... Hope its true!
[HTC Sensation] townay:
-Latest Sense currently is 3.5.

-Official ICS for Sensation rolls out around end of March.

-HTC One series will only be available in the market on April.

By your meaning of "Latest" I'd guess its the Sense 3.5 version.

HTC will never butcher their One series sales just because the Sensation will handle Sense 4.0 just fine. Especially One S, considering its specs are almost identical to Sensation.
[HTC Sensation] monkey29992:
I saw it somewhere on the page as a reply to a question, not a proper post.. Now that I think about it, they said "the latest Sense" instead of identifying a specific version :( so I just gotta hope for the best. But I really really want the new camera app, at least :(
[HTC Sensation] townay:
^at some point in time, the sense 4 camera apk will be here in xda. after all its only a camera apk.

but if its somehow tied to elements of sense 4.. well then..

if not, there is hope!
[HTC Sensation] GuyAdams:
The camera APK will be useless for our phones because the camera on the One series has a seperate image processor where as the Sensation does the image processing in the CPU. Without the additional hardware the extra features of Sense 4.0 just won't work well.

This also will make a good quality port very difficult.

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[HTC Sensation] townay:
good point. silly me not taking that into account lol:p
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
I don't think the 1S is S4 processor since I've read in several places that it will be launched in the 2nd half and the 1S launches in April.

I will post the links in a min

Must have read it wrong then.

Anywho it looks pretty cool but I'm only interested in the coming ics upgrade for our sensations :)
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
the OneS is VASTLY improved/different compared to the Sensation btw from a hardware standpoint. S4 chip versus S3 is big enough on its own. the camera lense is f2 which is huge on its own, along with the separate camera imaging chip to help perform all the tasks on the new sense 4.0 camera.

but doubt u see sense 4.0 anyway b/c during the event they seemed to hone in on the camera features in the new Sense4.0 devices and thats all built around the new imagingchip they have built in, that other devices currently do not have...just my 2cent there.
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
Either de the 1s or 1x are a Good upgrade for the Sensation.. If the one s looks similar (for the eyes) to the Sensation, it doesnt mean they are almost the same, just having the s4 is a huge step, no mentioning the sense image chip, the new camera (better than the rezound and amaze), thinner, super amoled screen, new battery tecnhology, etc, etc, etc..
[HTC Sensation] Solar_:
Everyone is worried about the 'low mA battery' but in fact, HTC did a brilliant step. Because the battery is non-removable, they can do things with the connectors of the battery that normally unable is. It'll drain much less battery because of the connectors.

(This has been told to me).
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Yeah but huawei managed to instal a (I guess, not exactly sure) a 2100mAh batt when 1X only have 1800 ... Both are tegra 3..

Wish HTC could go 2000 also.. since its built in..
[HTC Sensation] Solar_:
Maybe HTC did optimise their Sense 4.0 software this time so the battery will be better. Who knows..
[HTC Sensation] lws803:
Hmm there are no external expendable storage too right? If so then the new one series have a serious speed boost in terms of disk read and write
[HTC Sensation] dexter93:
That's what they always say :rolleyes:
[HTC Sensation] LilChinchster:
I hope for their sakes that they optimised it alot
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
no but, HTC argue that you get 32GB built in... then additional 25GB on Dropbog (2 years) and also 25 GB on Microsofts cloud storage.

so in case you need more storage you always have 50gb (25+25) in cloud storage
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
i dont buy that.. even if they did, just imagine how moch better it still would be with a 2000 mha battery..

i know they could of pressed it in. (ppl at MWC say you almost can push the backside in a bit, meaning there are some space left there.

but i guess HTC was scared to make it to thick.

one downside to One S & X is the bulky camera... hate it.. otherwise amazing phones! (but still not like Nokias 41mp camera phone! ugly as phuck! :D)
[HTC Sensation] k0zmic:
Some even have Google Music/Amazon Cloud Player, Google Docs, Box.net and a few other.

I personally think 32GB built in is probably enough for most people.
[HTC Sensation] leftheodo:
I second that! If you think about it the sensation only has 1 gb of storage and if you add a 32 gb sd card you have 33 gigs! The one x has 32 gigs that are more than enough for me and don't forget that the in built storage is much faster than the fastest sd card!
[HTC Sensation] erto90:
I think.. What happens if your phone hangs n bootloop or similar and you have not the possibility to remove battery?
[HTC Sensation] sgt. slaughter:
hold down vol+, vol- and hit power button. power off.
[HTC Sensation] townay:
32built in is correct BUT only 26gb is available to the user. The remaining 4gb is taken up by the OS and stuff :D

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also who here thinks HTC will be releasing a bigger mAh One X just like Razr Maxx? :D
[HTC Sensation] renehd2:
i dont think so, since htc plans are to launch as few phones as possible, and this phones are really awesome to compete for the rest of the year to my opinion... and also as i read somewhere, the batteries used in the htc ones arent normal batteries, but with some technology that make them last 30% longer
[HTC Sensation] sarkar_007:
Does Sense 4 have scrollable wallpapers? The carousel effect meant that wallpapers were not scrolling which kind of kills the charm of live wallpapers like my beach hd, sunrise etc. I would love it if we got back scrolling wallpapers.
[HTC Sensation] townay:
I am lazy right now. But Sense 4 scrolling does not have infinite/looping homescreen scroll
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Carousel means you can spin the startscreens/homepages round and round. Now we only have scrollable wallpapers, meaning when you go left the wallpaper slide to the left. But when you reach screen nr1, you can't scroll one more time to reach screen 7. You have to scroll all the way, the opposite side. :/
[HTC Sensation] sarkar_007:
Yes, I know what a carousel means. It is just a fancy effect in the phone. I want scrollable wallpapers in Sense 4 as they used to be before Sense 3 where the wallpaper slides with each screen. In a few launchers that I have tried (like Go Launcher EX) we can go to screen 7 directly from screen 1 without scrolling all the way back. I hope we can do this in Sense 4.
[HTC Sensation] loni90:
Ok.. hur scrollable wallpapers are still here. But only on still wallpapers.. not in live wallpapers

Hope it answered your question, this time ;)