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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
I see what you did there ;)

You are correct though. Our phone has never seen the inside of a sudo slave labor factory. Never. In fact Samsung does not and never has had dealings with ANY company that would support these work conditions. They refuse to have factories in Asian countries due to them having so many sweat shops. It really is almost like a unicorn just shat out a SGS2.

Oh wait....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] twizted_dreams1:
:D That explains the white ones...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jayavarman:
These factories have lifted several hundred million Chinese out of poverty.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
Even if this is true, then it still does not give the companies the right to treat them inhumanely. Simply giving them employment and a paycheck does not give them the right to essentially turn them into slaves.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kimco31st:
This is a really good article about why companies do business this way.

Can't post the link because I am a new user. But on nytimes website and article titled "How the U.S. Lost Out on iPhone Work".

Take the time to look it up and read it. If I manage to do seven more posts, i'll update with the link..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
I think this is it: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/b...d-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kimco31st:
Yes CDS, that is it. Thank you for posting for me. I think it is a very insightful read that most everyone would benefit from reading.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
So these factories lifted some people - not even 1% of 1% of 1% of the total population of the Asian countries, out of poverty. That makes it ok to treat them the way they do?

I have a job, by that logic I should be thanking my employer and accept whatever conditions or treatments I receive. I should just sit here for 10, 12, 16 hours a day with no food, water, or a chance to use the restroom because they gave me a job?

Samsung is not a golden child when it comes to these things, not by a long shot. That being said, I like the product and wanted it. There's nothing I can do to stop or prevent what's going on there. I mean, America could switch it up and invade an Asian country (again). That might stop it - or make it worse. How about this - we worry about the conditions of our people, they worry about theirs. Many (pick your type of government) countries throughout history have had their people fight back against horrible work conditions. We did in America (seems to be back tracking as of late), so they can too if they want it that bad. Otherwise I say it is what it is, carry on.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
They have it better than me ... :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Blame the unions and over regulating for making American workers so expensive that you can get the same manufacturing done for a fraction of the price overseas. If you had to pay an American worker $20/hr + healthcare, other benefits and a pension, imagine how much a single iPhone would cost, that's just the way things are now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] turbomeister:
It's funny seeing how aghast some of you are acting about this. Wake up and start seeing the world for what it is. This is reality, not the fairy tale fantasy some of you live in. This is how economies work.

I say thank God there are countries with cheap labor. At the end of the day, we all benefit from our standard of life BECAUSE of them. I certainly don't want to pay $4000 for a laptop that we buy now for $1000 just so we can make some people feel better. I'm not going to pay triple or more for everything just so the factory worker can drive a Mercedes and take 3 breaks a day.

All this liberal, emotional, misplaced, righteous behavior is the reason why America is not the manufacturing powerhouse that China now is. Congratulate yourselves on being in the "right". Pat yourselves on the back and institute more "feel-good" labor-related legislation. Thank God for our unions right? Haha, some of you guys are just moronic beyond help.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jcpadron:
HAHAHAHA!!! This post just made my day. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lynyrd65:
Good thing my phone says made in Korea on it. It should also say "not made in the third world". This is one unique feature of our phones which is often overlooked.

Samsung/Google (Googsung?) for life!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] twizted_dreams1:
its not so much the unions to blame as much of it is the our government that allowed more company's to go out of the U.S.

MOST all the CEO's and big wigs look for 1 thing and 1 thing only how do i make myself richer.

Oh i know i can outsource to china or some country pay workers .20 cents a day for slave labor and still charge the same amount or more in store.

Vs keeping up with inflation and everything else inside the U.S.

Like its been said here though Apple isn't the only one with slave labor

depressingly enough there are a few american companys that jumped ship and do the same thing now.

You just happen to hear about it with Apple more than others from how big of a company Apple is...

Unions are not completely out of this factor either as i think the whole union based system needs an overhaul

I worked 5 years for a place that could have benefited from having a union...

However thanks to no union we were able to fire people that couldn't pull the weight in the company.

So the union needs a complete overhaul..

The other problem America has is more and more of the younger generation and even my generation

is getting this idea in there head they should basically be paid before they work...

That's why i love sales or factory's with a peace rate Get paid for what you do, IE minimum wage, and ill pay you bonus if you bust ass more than anyone else...

company i work for now has a stipulation like that as well,

you want to slack off i pay ****, you bust ass you get bonus pay.

You want to work less than company average in your dept for a period of time ill transfer you to a dept that works that slow and match your pay for that dept...

you want to work slower yet guess what, you been replaced...

Needless to say they have a very low employee turn around rate...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] donsh00tmesanta:
Everything we have is made in those conditions

sent from my Galaxy S 2 from Sprint on unnamed 2.0.1
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tiffany84:
Foxconn also manufacturers electronics for Dell, HP, Lenovo, Nokia, Panasonic, Samsung and Sony

Copied that from the posted article in the op.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gsx62391:
You can say that you don't care, and that's fine. I am in the same boat. But when other people are escaping their countries to come to our country, don't cry and complain when they take your jobs for less pay and do it twice as good. If these so called great companies would keep the work in America, it would help with our own economy problems. It's not like these companies can't afford to set up shop in America, it's that they are just too greedy. They are happy to take your money, but they are more worried about putting a bigger percentage of that money back into their own pockets.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
I think. Im gunna be sick

Sent From My Epic Touch 3g
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 12MaNy:
I disagree with large portions of this post. I care and that article made my ****ing skin crawl. I really hope my device wasn't manufactured under those conditions. I feel like an ignorant douche with his head up his ass now. Its real easy to forget how bad things can be outside of this country.....especially when I'm safe inside my cushy American bubble. I mean, don't get me wrong...I'm not going to go pitch my expensive phone into the river and fly over to China and declare war on some CEOs, but I will definitely start holding on to these devices alot longer, cutting down on my contribution to slave labor.

That being said...I feel even more fortunate now to live in America.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crzchn:
You were assuming that the poverty was worse and that the same poverty was not created by the state and the factory system.

I mean I if I owned a factory and needed cheap labor I would not want a bunch of happy peasants running around.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crzchn:
There is no such thing as a free country. There are only more economically dominant countries that give us the illusion of freedom.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Esoteric68:
@12MaNy

+1

Oh okay, I just figured out what the '10 characters' I see in some posts means. lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 12MaNy:
You know what I meant. :rolleyes:

Here, I'll rephrase.....I'm glad I live in a more opportunistic country...also edited my post so that it comes off more clearly.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
You should have left it the way it was. Everyone knows what u meant. Don't let some smartass change that :D

Edit: incase crzchn tries to fix my post too, I know i just committed a fallacy by stating "everyone knows". ;)

Sent from my \_3vo_/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] turbomeister:
Can't really blame the companies. A lot of these companies have shareholders that expect maximized financial returns (who wouldn't?). Executives are hired and fired depending on how much money is made. If YOU were one of the execs and you had a choice of manufacturing here vs China, the question would be a matter of when not if.

China: happy investors, large profit margins, job security, wealthier company, products are very affordable.

US: throw everything above out the window. Have a happy conscience while you are looking for a new job.

Anyone not happy with the way this works is not really happy with capitalism. Yes, people get hurt and some do not live quality lives compared to some of us Americans. That is the nature of capitalism. You want masses of poor, disenfranchised, desperate people that will work for low wages to keep profit margins high, make investors happy and companies rich.

I don't blame the companies for making the same decision that I would've made, were I in their shoes. I would just try to move up in the world and not belong at the bottom of the totem pole.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] &roid:
This is an incredible article. What's really disgusting is that Apple uses ignorance as a bogus means of excuse. They know damn well what's going on. They sure as hell know how much moneys in the bank, design, development and all other aspects of their business, but for some reason don't know about their trusted suppliers. I call bull****.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jayavarman:
Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, and yes, even the United States once had terrible working conditions. Due to increasing wealth and shortage of workers, conditions and wages eventually improve, which is already happening in China. Chinese wages have increased several-fold over the past few years. 440 million Chinese have lifted themselves out of poverty—the biggest reduction of poverty in history.

Manufacturing is now returning to the United States to get closer to the consumer. Other industries are moving from China to Vietnam, Bangladesh, and Indonesia.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
You obviously have no clue how to run a business.

Hey make me a TPU case right here in America, jump through the hoops to get a loan, find a building that the zoning allows that type of business, get all the permits, inspections, deal with the EPA, OSHA and the IRS....and that just the building itself. Then you got to hire American workers who in the end are going to cost you 50,000+ (minimum wage since were being greedy with the new hires/machine operators) a year after payroll and benefits that HAVE TO PROVIDE EG: insurance, paid time off, vacations, workers comp, unemployment, jury duty, double time for holidays and overtime, GOD FORBID SOMEONE SLIPS AND FALLS AND SUES YOUR ASS. The hassle of even finding a worker that isnt a lazy and shows up for work everyday. Then you need secretarys, lawyers, foreman, janitors, engineers.... It goes on and on.

After all that Ill expect your great company to still sell me that case for 1¢ plus $2.99 shipping (to compete with China ). Lets see how long you last. Tell me again this stuff is made in China because is all about greed and money that your just trying to pocket. Grow up and get a clue.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] A_Flying_Fox:
Its china. How'd you expect tgem to be treated? If one dies, there's a billion more waiting to take that same job.

Overpopulation, class system, communistic ideals for the poor people, capitalist for the well off commie partiers (think the owners of foxconn and whatnot).

Chinese people have a history of being weak internally. They're used to bending over because with the way stuff is in that country, even a low wage paying job is lucky. (Especially considering free housing, education(college), healthcare, food subsidies etc)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] gdmuscle:
Ok guys I've rooted my Droid Xt910 Rogers, now I need help on how to pull the rest of the images out of the partitions. The partitions are named differently than the Samsung phones, they are listed as mmcblk1p1 etc. all the way up to 26. Not sure what the rest are, misc, cid, kpanic, preinstall, cdrom, utags, pds, etc. There are also ones that don't have labels on them such as 1 - 6 blks. 9 to 13 blks. THere is also the webtop, emstorage?

Anyways if anyone could shed some light on these partitions or should I just pull all of them so I have some kind of backup in case I end up figuring out how to creat an Odin?

Thanks.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] polaris441:
Partition softlink with mmcblk can be view under /dev/block using root explorer

Just for info, not all partition can be restored using fastboot if the bootloader is locked, e.g. recovery & boot. I am not so sure about system.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] gdmuscle:
Thanks, just wanted to figure out how to pull as much as I can. This way if anyone needed the Rogers system files I would have them. Also when ever we get a way to flash these back it would be available for use.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kholk:
Welcome to the EternityProject...!

What do we have here?

Android....

.....Ice Cream Sandwich for Motorola RAZR XT910 (GSM/UMTS)!!! ...running on Linux 3.0.8!

Screenshots:

A screenshot is available as an attachment to this post.

You can view other screenshots HERE!

Requirements:

Software version: 651.167.20 Retail en.EU

How-To:

1. Download the file

2. Rename it to "update.zip" and place it on the root of your external SDCard

3. Go into Motorola's Recovery

4. Go! Go! Go! :D

How to root:

1. Be sure you've got the su backup done by Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper

2. Open a terminal (on ICS!!!)

3. Execute this:

./system/su-backup
mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/system /system
rm /system/bin/su
ln -s /system/su-backup /system/bin/su

4. Enjoy your rooted ICS!

Making it to be fast & stabler:

Settings -> Developer Options -> Force GPU Rendering

Enable it. :°)

Download:

EternityProject Website

The EternityProject Team Manager & Main Developer,

--kholk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pswin09:
OMG, It is very good new...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] danial.aw:
Oooooommmmmmgggggg ... :d
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Topgun966:
Nothing for CDMA???? :( Still exciting
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Giiar:
Awesome, totally can't wait
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kholk:
The download link has been added.

Happy flashing!

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

:)...Brought to you by the EternityProject...

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Reazy64:
Link dead :-(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] leisures:
Link dead 404 :(

This worked http://dlhg.eternityproject.eu/mtspyder/official/xt910/ota/Blur_Version.651.167.20.XT910.Retail.en.EU.zip

Enviado desde mi XT910 usando Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Astrowe:
is this for real? :eek: :D everything works? touchscreen/audio/radio/...?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] leisures:
Ohhh so sad i cant flash 651.167.20 Retail en.EU on my phone :(

Enviado desde mi XT910 usando Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] zeidof:
Good job, seems we have to downgrade first, but what about root? Would root keeper work after flashing update?

Also the link is dead:confused:

sliced by my Razr on Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] TheProd:
great!

Is this a leak? Interesting system version :eek:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] zagorpower:
Awwwww!!! Waiting... =d

:p
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bigdaddy168:
Love you guys :D Is this a leaked version?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Astrowe:
i think Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper will do the trick

edit: @zeidof
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Rutz272:
Yes. Same question here. Is this leak of official update from Motorola?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Astrowe:
since it's OTA and flashable through stock Motorola Recovery.. i believe it's somehow official.

---------- Post added at 08:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:43 AM ----------

according to THIS PAGE,

this is the download link to ICS

OTA:

DOWNLOAD
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Astrowe:
yeah you have to be on 651.167.20 Retail en.EU with all the files that are being patched present.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] amletinka:
yoooooo!)) going to test it in ... 1 hour!)thanks
[Motorola Droid RAZR] polaris441:
Is the OTA will unlocked the bootloader?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pswin09:
Did you install razrbootsrap before flashing to ics. If so it will not work according to my experience. The step is flash 6.5.1 _ 73.30 first then update to 167.20 and finally flash ics update. For me root is not possible to resore after update to ics. So rooting is useless for me.. Now going back to 2.3.6 because ics is still in beta and found many minor issues. Take note flash player is not working on our ics that kick me back to GB. Try to flash first then if you don't like just go back..:D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Huey85:
Heading back to 2.3.6 too.. way too many bugs at the moment and my Exchange keeps FC'ing. Not to mention battery life is horrible at the moment and the camera viewfinder looks horrid, as do the photos.

Hoping to see a fixed and better tweaked release of ICS for our RAZR's soon! So far it looks absolutely delish!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] painterceessie:
It was nice for a day use.

Too many bugs for me also.

Back to 2.3.6.

:D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ziadsa:
Not Retail EN what can i do

Hi,

i am not on retail EN,

what are my options to get the ICS Update?

Thanks.

i am trying to flash the Retail En is keeps failing the signature in RSD lite.

Thanks.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] narta:
On twitter

:(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Shadowdancer123:
It says that your build.prop has been tampered with (the fingerprint bit)

You must flash with a fastboot file first, then root/rootkeep and finally run the OTA in motocovery.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xTremePower:
it's just a guy who not learned to read a forum....

with all my android phones, and my Razr, i make a least 100 flash fails, errors, cable unplug while flashing, bootloop,

and I always found a way to reanimate my phones.....

I used my Désire HD (1Ghz processor) a 2Ghz for 1 year, the phone works great now :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kholk:
@xTremePower

You're the guy that doesn't read everything....

....that tweet was from me.... :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sevenup30:
Damn man! sorry about that, how does it happen?

i guess you're sending your phone to motorola and you'll get a new one in 2 month?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kholk:
I've tried to flash an old fastboot file and... surprise!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sevenup30:
isn't just a soft brick? i thought that soft break can be resolved,but hey, you know much more than me on the question.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kholk:
This can't be solved, at least at the moment... and I don't know if it will be solvable in a near/far future :\
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pedrotorresfilho:
Ciao, kholk!

Don't know how many time it takes to a replacement in Italia, here it takes about 2 weaks only, but the feeling is terrible.

Had you tried the factory cable and pushing a boot image on it via adb?

I didn't this in mine due brazilian replacement rules. (may void warranty if burns something, and I'm not good in soldering...)

Hope you get ur new Razr back really soon!

You should get a few Razrs to brick from Motorola, you deserve it!

See ya!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] painterceessie:
When I extracted the rom I have lots off files,recovery,webtop,etc.

Can you tell me exactly how I must do it.

Where and how must I put the fastboot package.

It's driving me crazy.

Much appreciated
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Huey85:
Extract all of the files for Fla**** and then extract all of the files from the Fastboot file into the SAME folder as Fla****.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nagnrik:
Too many bugs??? I wonder what r those too bugs... LoL, it works perfect for me except dialer/phone book rendering n drawer crashes only few times in a day.. I have replaced the dialer/phone book with eX dialer on ICS theme, it is perfect.. I have replaced the lock screen with go ICS lock screen, no delay n hangs on locking n unlocking.. keep the security to none, download the go launcher, keep it aside, download go locker and ics theme, enable n enjoy....:-))

Except that, everything's just perfect.. I'm loving it...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ziadsa:
last 2 days was my first time i play with Motorola Stuff,

today i bricked my bootloader, and i fixed it.

just try rsd lite and try all fastboot file you find arround for the GSM phones.

mine i was flashint it with europe and its FXXXX up.

i try to boot phone was always stuck on AP fastboot.

untill i flashed the brazilian one it revived my phone.

It seems for US Canadian on Rogers or Fido the bext is the brazilian.

can you explain what are you getting when you power up your phone.

Thanks
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onslaught86:
I love all the posts from people trying to troubleshoot kholk's bricked phone. No offense, and I'm sure the sentiment is appreciated, but I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing - if he says it's bricked, I'd believe him. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ziadsa:
Can anyone with ICS rom now , send us a backup made with clockwork?

upload it, i can give you 4shared premium account to publish or rapidshare.

please please, i need to test that rom,

and my only option as i am on NA rom and brazilian, we can not flash our with the european rom unless we have a nandroid backup or backup made by clockwork.

Thanks
[Motorola Droid RAZR] FrAsErTaG:
A backup will be pointless at the moment I'd assume because due to motorola locking the boot loader you can not flash the kernel it uses without using the official recovery.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] painterceessie:
Much much appreciated.

Thanks mate.

One more thing,I can't go forward when you must touch the android.

Google services framework(proces.com.google.process.gapps)

Try again.

But nothing happens.

Any clue.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pajn:
Do a factory reset in recovery
[Motorola Droid RAZR] painterceessie:
Thank you very much.

I love you guys here on xda:D

Have a nice day.

The painter:cool:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] adlx.xda:
I disagree here, the patched kernel is signed also, so it should be possible to flash it via fastboot, or other means, like bootstrap cwm, or dd even.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] matticala:
As I flashed ICS beta FIVE times, everytime starting from pure .30, every flash had brought the same problems I mentioned some posts ago.

Perhaps you are one lucky among many, but in EU that firmware is buggy... much probably due to bugged drivers.

Radio signal strenght not updating on a mobile is quite disappointing ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pswin09:
OMG! Sorry to hear that. Good luck brother...:(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bahathir:
+1

It is tempting to try ICS but we need to remember that flashing is a VERY RISKY, especially when playing with bootloader. If the bootloader is corrupted , the only option is to send the phone to service center.

Even an experienced hacker also made mistakes, so what we expect from a people who like to try to flash for the first time?

My advice is, stay away from flashing unless , you are really know the risk, have contingencies planning and knowledge how the system works.

This doesn't mean that you cannot try, but it take lots of efforts and resources to success. Don't expect to success at the first try.

If you cannot read, understand and follow instructions, then it is very wise NOT to flash your phone. It may brings more bad than good.