yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Questions and Answers] Raex:
yeah, but the guy there told me not do update it, the reason why i asked is that this guy didnt really seem to know what he was talking about, still he told me that it would be locked again after an update, so i need to be sure before i really update, would be nice if someone could ensure me that its not gonna be locked again after the update, maybe yours was unlocked in a different way than mine......

but still, thanks for the answer^^
[General Questions and Answers] Raex:
plus, i dont think that my phone was unlocked via a code.........but i'm not sure!
[General Questions and Answers] Raex:
is there anyone who can tell my why or why not it will be locked again after the update?
[General Questions and Answers] razerblade17:
i'm not clear about your question...you mean unlock bootloader or sim?
[General Questions and Answers] Raex:
im talking about a sim-unlocked phone (was unlocked by a shop and i dont know how they did it), i dont want to unlock the bootloader, i just want to know if it will be sim locked again after an update to android 2.3.x from 2.1. 1-update or not, but i want to be sure, i really want to avoid updating and again having a useless up to date phone :)
[General Questions and Answers] Raex:
also the guy who originally sold me the phone told me that he unlocked it and before he actually sold me the phone, updated the software, when i got the phone i couldn use it with my sim-card...it was locked again, but he told me that he could use the phone with two different sim-cards from two different providers even after the update, but the phone simply didnt take my sim-card (3rd other provider).....i just dont know^^
[General Questions and Answers] Jesushaxyou:
It's my understanding that once your phone is unlocked it can't be locked again. My advice is to do the update and if it's locked again kick that dude in the throat for failing.
[General Questions and Answers] Raex:
well, if its locked again and i tell that dude that he failed, he will say that he told me not to update it and kick my ass for complaining xD

i mean i would do that if i tell somebody not to do something he then does and afterwards complains about it.....
[General Questions and Answers] Raex:
is there noone who can tell me for sure if it will be locked again or not?
[General Questions and Answers] Raex:
OK, i finally did the update and it remained unlocked......NIIIICE :)
[Android Apps and Games] shinew:
Is there a free video rotating app/method that can be use directly on Android like the Gallery app does for images? Once in awhile my recorded videos get upside down and it seems like there should be an easy way to rotate this but I can't find any, it's frustrating... thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
BIG DISCLAIMER WARNING:

This thread is for all GINGERBREAD ROM's (SENSE), and their RESPECTIVE KERNELS.

THESE KERNELS DO NOT WORK ON ICE CREAM SANDWICH (Or rather, not tested but please don't try)

THE ZIPS in the ATTACHMENTS section are also for GINGERBREAD, and not ICE CREAM SANDWICH

PLEASE READ THIS OPENING POST BEFORE FLASHING!!

PLEASE DONT BRICK YOUR PHONE :)

Hello everyone,

This is the GSM kernel comparisons thread where I have done some comparisons between each kernel and jotted down their differences.

Basically I ran some tests for gaming, antutu and will do more later such as battery life during idle. I also examine default clock speeds and their voltage, to provide a show difference between kernel voltages (affect battery drain?)

NEW: I added more tests by requests, and also narrow down to better performing kernels in terms of their various departments such as Performance, Battery, Graphics and Overall :)

The ToDoList

[DONE]Clean up formatting

[DONE]EXCEL method comparison

[DONE]Nenamark2

[DONE]Smartbench 2012

[DONE]Battery Life during idle (this is going to be a tough one)

[DONE]Links to kernels, kernel owners

[DONE]Thanks and appreciation to all kernel developers

[DONE]Thanks and appreciation to ROM developer

[DONE]New kernels

[DONE]New tests on new kernels

You tell me :)

The disclaimer

I will follow up the thread and update as I have time, or as long as I have the same ROM (which I dont usually flash too often) or same phone :)

If you dislike my post, cross-reference, findings, let me know, especially if you have been affected by this post :) I will do the necessary to adjust it. My apologies if I have done so in advance.

If you disagree with my information above, let me know and I will add,change or remove it.

If you found something interesting about any of the kernels, discuss and let me know. I am sure others will want to know as well :)

I am not responsible for anything above, and damage, warranty,legal and etc is on your own self doing. I will remove them immediately when it affects any of the mentioned above.

I dont claim these are 100% accurate, and variance might be there. Use at own discretion, especially voltages.

Undervolting below HTC stock mV, and overclocking above 1.5Ghz is at your own peril. By default, our CPU are clocked at 1.5Ghz. HTC just downclocked it to 1.2Ghz. Anything above that, and you are on your own.

384mhz seem to be the most stable low point. 192mhz caused random reboots or bugs during lockscreen, in call etc.

Sony XLOUD is really LOUD. However, restoring using the uninstall.zip breaks all AUDIO from Music apps, or beats related.
[HTC EVO 3D] McKebapp:
Yeah, very cool Idea.

That way it'll get a little clearer for the people which kernel to choose --> performance wise

I did something similar about a year ago for my DesireHD --> << press hard on this one >> (Linpack only).

Just one thing:

Maybe Antutu "only" isn't representative enough?

It is a synthetic benchmark isn't it.?

Does somebody have an idea how to bench a little closer to real life circumstances?
[HTC EVO 3D] DNAxDREAMS:
I see what you are getting at, but how a kernel works for one person does not say that much. When running antutu with the Anthrax V2 kernel @ 1.5Ghz I score 5829 (without SD) which is considerably higher than what you scored. In the end every device is different and will therefore score different and work better and worse with certain settings..
[HTC EVO 3D] Flashmaniac:
nice idea dude, but benchmarks are nothing you should believe in :)
[HTC EVO 3D] metamasterplay:
Too bad you can't include chad's Qualcomm series in your comparaison. Oh well, Xda's loss.
[HTC EVO 3D] tmihai20:
Very good idea. Which Anthrax v2 kernel did you use: SHOOTERU-GSM-SENSE-AnthraX-RLS001a.zip or GSM-SENSE-AnthraX-2.6.38.6-REV_005.zip? I believe GSM-SENSE-AnthraX-2.6.38.6-REV_005.zip is much more stable than SHOOTERU-GSM-SENSE-AnthraX-RLS001a.zip.
[HTC EVO 3D] Lolento:
Thanks for putting in so much work. I would be more interested in a battery drain benchmark. But good work.
[HTC EVO 3D] xb360:
Nice thread. I also am interested in seeing benchmarks for battery performance.
[HTC EVO 3D] BrockFerens:
Thanks for time and effort put in, it helps give an idea of what each kernel is capable of.

locked & loaded
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Mate,

I've. Always found leedroid. Kernel v1 is the fastest on any rom. I've tried

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It's not xda's fault, there keeping legal and covering there own arses

Cant blame em, if your one of the few who kept them, u can use them
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Yeah every ROM is different. Every device performs differently with different ROM's , :)

Best ROM here would beat my ROM out flat, but I used the same platform to test to give the difference between all of them :) Thats all

i'm aware that benchmarks ARE NOTHING, honestly. Made out of curiosity and to cure yours as well. They are a good representation only. Actual life performance varies big time, ask Mr. Iphone :) He had bad benchmarks everywhere and yet performed really well.

i used "SHOOTERU-GSM-SENSE-AnthraX-RLS001a.zip"

i dont have "GSM-SENSE-AnthraX-2.6.38.6-REV_005.zip"

In his thread, chad.goodman mentioned

I shall not violate his order, as I joined EVO3D section after this time :D

:)

i dont have v1. i joined EVO3D forum very much AFTER this was hidden :D

my opinion is that I use the same test bed on all tests. Meaning, if you use another ROM and test , it should be similiar for u as well for all different kernels, maybe +200 +300 more since its generally faster

perhaps my ROM has bugs in gaming, but AFAIK its quite toned down in terms of modifications and enhancements :)

I'm heading out, will modify this later
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
I found that its hard to measure battery performance but so far i spotted an app called Drain guard on XDA which measures drain only during idle for u.

However % drains of each kernel varies greatly, some jumping a few % and staying at one % for ridiculous amounts of time has made me drop that idea, for now.

Need to find something more consistent, such as running a game for 10 minutes and measure drain, but even that won't be accurate since % is reported wrongly and voltage is jumps up and down. I know because i monitor this day and night. Any ideas?

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Sent from my HD 2 running Hyperdroid CM 7 or just, my new HTC Evolution 3D running ROMeOS Unsensed
[HTC EVO 3D] tmihai20:
I found that kernel in the non-gpl folder, haven't tried it yet. Today I switch to Evo 3D as my primary phone, I am still using the stock kernel.
[HTC EVO 3D] Last Second:
Hey guys am a new Evo User, come from Desire ;)!

Is there an chance to get more information of the old kernels banned because of qualcomm?

What are the significant differences to the new ones.

Would be very glad for a private message with infos, or maybe somebody who has is it already is able to send it (via Mail)
[HTC EVO 3D] neol23:
Please update with those custom kernel settings:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21880484&postcount=4514

Stable 100%, no reboots, autobacklight works on calls, no lags at all (games & tiping - set the MAX CPU Load to 80).

Tested to 1,51Ghz OC - higher could be unstable - not tested the UV settings, though :) .

Everything ON, except BT and GPS - u can see the battery life ;) ...

Thanks, :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
updated with 1.03, and added you into the Unity3b section for user input.

what a great post there man :) amazing detailed information

i cant seem to find any other kernels other than the one on chad.goodman's site so i assume those were taken down already

missing 1.18Ghz screenshot though, but I would assume 1000mv, or 1025mv?
[HTC EVO 3D] TeroZ:
I doubt Antutu Benchmark will tell kernel's graphic performance, since its 2D and 3D benchmarks are too weak for modern devices.(most of phones have ~60fps cap.)

I recommend use Nenamark2 and Smartbench 2012 with "Performance" governor for more accurate results.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Added to my next TODOLIST for you

Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] PlayPetepp:
I guess you haven't seen this thread. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
now does the tweak work with other kernels like leedroid & anryl , or the best battery performer , unity3b?

guess a recovery backup is what im going to have to do tonight
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
works on my ROM, and have updated front page

seems to boost some scores on Nenamark 2, but drops scores in Antutu

for real life gaming, doesn't seem to have much impact. all the games i tested commonly for this thread worked flawlessly without any problems

any game out there that we LAG ALOT in ? GTA? damn i need 2 buy that ...

the one i tested is not the SAMSUNG EGL drivers btw
[HTC EVO 3D] PlayPetepp:
I'm thinking it's not rom/kernel dependant because after replacing the libs I tried every kernel and all of them worked fine. Didn't switch roms though. I'm on mikrunny atm. Still, it's always better to be safe with a backup then sorry without one. :)

==edit==

Tried both samsung egls and gpu update drivers, same results. And they don't break anything like 3D camera/gallery.

-. typewrited .-
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Thanks for saving me some hassle.

I will test other kernel results, but yes at least it doesn't break anything

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Sent my new HTC Evolution 3D running ROMeOS UNSENSED.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
What do you think which kernel has best battery life/performances ratio except unity.

They all have aproximatly same performances but i cant make up my mind about battery life?
[HTC EVO 3D] meangreenie:
Have you tested cile381 kernels yet ? I'm using his 'sense' one and it seems very good with battery life and performance.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I did test all kernels(except unity3b) and all have very good performances, but it will take too long to test battery life for each kernel. So i will wait for few more replays to see what other people thinks
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
I have, and haven't had the time to create an entire column for it, especially when the big 4 kernels already balances each other. Find some of it redundant

I will try to find the time...

Last night i tested rls004 by anthrax, and battery drain was awful while idle.

Not the first time though, second test

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Sent my new HTC Evolution 3D running ROMeOS UNSENSED.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
everyone has different battery usage, and that could be different

however, for me, after a full day, i still go back to Anryl 10.07 :)

test it out for a day or two :)

UPDATED FONT PAGE FOR RLS004

UPDATE CHANGE LOGS TO RESPECT YOUR MOUSE SCROLLING
[HTC EVO 3D] hes_luckey:
my battery status shows it has near 3600mv but the percent shows 11%

what's the problem ?!
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
i believe u will have to full charge it , make sure it reaches 4335v :)

3600 it should be 40% :)

what ROM / kernel are u using ?
[HTC EVO 3D] hes_luckey:
I full charged it last night and now it shows 1% ! its now about 3400mv !

lastest leedroid with Anryl 10.07 that i'd flashed before full charge
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Battery monitor widget, the latest usually tracks best mv

Nonetheless, 1% at 3400 is probably wrong, and i expect 3200 to be more accurate as I've observed.

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Sent my new HTC Evolution 3D running ROMeOS UNSENSED.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
thats terrible

your device is AWAKE without your SCREEN ON

you need to find out what is causing your device to stay awake, or what they call it wake lock

leedroid ROM, im not too sure what is causing it

im not sure the app or service causing this, and you might want to download better battery stats 1.7.1 to find out from XDA

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

that is some horrible awake time man, lol :D

even the % drops are so erratic, and sudden dips in % by huge margins... thats scary

what were you doing at those times?

though at 17 hours of usage, looks pretty decent
[HTC EVO 3D] hes_luckey:
my primary problem is on screen on activities thats drop 1% in every about 10min when working simple tasks like SMS

on 30-20% huge drop i have a 5min call !

on others one i think that reboots

my english is awful ,isnt it ? :D
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
One % every 10 minutes is good mate. Its not awful. My common realization is battery should drop about 5-7 % per hour, on light tasks and on edge.

So you are ok

17 hours is decent, at least u got thru the day, unless u sleep 5 hours a night, then u need 19 hours uptime

Anyways, mv voltages sometimes are reported wrongly, during high usage, like your call or reboot. Reboots I realized causes wrong readings, and is usually off for a while, but that's our evo 3d

Some devices, reboot eats 2%, some 5%, some none. Just look at voltages to be sure.

3400 and battery at 1%, should be lower around 3200

Were u charging?

Anyways the drain looks ok, nothing to worry about besides trying to get it to 3200 by slowly draining it to the end.. I did it twice and it was 3200

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Sent my new HTC Evolution 3D running ROMeOS UNSENSED.
[HTC EVO 3D] Toxina:
what's the best kernel for battery-life on the latest LeeDroid ROM? :)
[HTC EVO 3D] christan:
Well,

GPU Drivers or Samsung EGL for Anryl 10.07 and romeos 3D?
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
i only do tests on 1 ROM, to be consistent, with the same settings

and that ROM is ROMEOS... i wont do other ROM, and Leedroid's ROM is different

also, its best you find results there but so far from what i read ,

Anryl 10.07 :)

im testing Samsung-EGL

benchmarks +7FPS

gaming, graphics actually look brighter, sharper, clearer, defined and shaded

in terms of performance, MC3 is actually really heavy, and can feel the drop in FPS

in terms of overall, looks like samsung-egl is pretty safe to use, together with anryl 10.07 at the moment
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Dont use gpu drivers on romeos or any other 3D enabled ROM, 3D camera wont work and you wont be able to turn on phone after reboot, it works fine on any other aosp rom without 3d

Samsung egl is fine
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
i tried GPU drivers, and everything worked :)

now im using Samsung-EGL and everything seems to work as well :)

i think im sticking to Samsung-EGL, because it feels better / safer than the GPU drivers :D

anyways, flash down to old drivers if you face problems...
[HTC EVO 3D] sparky_freelander:
NICE JOB

NICE job, thanx for finding time to do this!!! What is your choice for stable fast and good battery rom and kernel with 3d working??
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
The one I used for this test :)

And my signature says it all

There is no best ROM best kernel and probably will never have one

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Sent from my HTC Evo 3D running ROMEOS 1.3.4 FINAL

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[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
Battery life of Ledroid 5.4 Kernel in the test Result by Jcsy seems to be not as good as mentioned above.

In Ledroid 5.4 thread, it is said that the Rom+ Kernel 5.4 is good during screen off but poor during actual use in term of battery life.

Do u think so, bros?
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
didnt quite understand your question, since i get confused with ROM 5.4 and kernel 5.4

lol , they are both 5.4

i believe the drain is worse off, if the trade off is to be FASTER PERFORMANCE (Snappier) than Anryl 10.07

anyways , i have tested the unity3b with FORCE CHARGE patch

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24786155&postcount=47

it works, and looks like im going to be using Unity3b, force charge, and anryl voltages

i observed -5ma to -13ma drains with 3G on with unity3b, and its something I didnt see on any other kernel :)
[HTC EVO 3D] :
how did you get battery drain(ma)

eg.

On anryl's kernel:

Estimated ma : -14 to -19ma estimated drain ?

Is it with BMW?

Because in my phone BMW displays around -200ma at all time
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Battery Monitor Widget

Monitoring to 60 seconds

Make sure its Automatic, and no ma corrections

should work, since it works for me so far...

my estimated -14 to -19 was back when Battery Monitor Widget didnt work for HTC EVO3D (yes HTC blundered and their drivers reported wrong values, hence the word Estimated)

I managed to get -14 to -19 because if you leave it idle for HOURS, it actually gives you the correct -ma readings... so I did this in the night and got those readings...

now its easier, when Battery Monitor Widget kind of resolved the problems
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
I meant that the test result in the firt page of this thread shows that Kernel Ledroid V 5.4 is almost same as the Kernel Ledroid v 5.3 (and is not very good) in term of battery life. (even though you said battery of Kernel Ledroid V 5.4 is Great). Am I right ?

I'm using Rom ledroid 5.4 + Kernel Anryl 10.7. However, after 8 hours of sleeping, it spent 15% of battery . The badass battery monitor shown that the Radio contains 53% of battery drain but I couldnt find any particular programs use network data.

My setting during sleeping are:

Mobile network: ON

Enable always on mobile data: Off

BAck ground Data: On

Auto Sync: Off

Location: On

Weather Interval: 4 hours

Emails Interval: 1 hour (but only from 8h to 20 h)

Apps: Whatapp, Viber,

I hear that with anryl 10.7 the Phone normaly drains 2% per 8 hours of sleeping during night. I dont know how many percentage you spend during 8 hours of sleeping and how is your setting?

Pls help me to solve my matter. Tks so much
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
your 15% for 8 hours is based on ?

are you on 3G or 2G ?

i realized 3G drains more, especially if requires to wake up for email check, and weather check

if its 2G, u're still using more configurations than me

my 2g i off locations, i dont have emails, i dont have weather,

my general is 1% per hour

2% for 8 hours i remember was airplane mode, or data off :) its a difference that big

regarding 5.4.0, and 5.3.8 kernel,

5.4.0 is similar to 5.3.8 in performance, and fastest

5.3.8 is probably slightly the same as 5.4.0 in terms of battery drain, and

after some tests, it seems to be the same

leedroid's kernel to me, was probably not the best in terms of battery, but sure is snappy and fast, which i believe its the trade-off

its personal opinion :)

even with fast charge available for Leedroid & Unity3b now, I still use unity3b only because its better with battery, acceptable performance :)
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
I'm always on 2G only.

I remember, 2 months ago, I got one or two times with Stock Rom + Stock Kernel, after one night (8 hours) the battery is still 96 % without airplane-mode or Mobile network disable. It seem to be even better than Anryl 10.7 ????

I still don't understand clearly about fast charge's use. However, we hope Mr Anryl will make a Kernel Anryl 10.7.1 with only fast charge added!
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
then probalby its your locations, email, weather or something

on another note, ive found some really stable VOLTAGES for Unity3b

these voltages were crafted from Anryl 10.07, and imported to Unity3b, and my gosh, battery is even pushed longer

i will confirm each frequency, and their voltage
[HTC EVO 3D] paroys:
Jcsy, if dun mind, can u give link for unity3b fast charge and ur set up:)
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
FRONT PAGE DUDE,

or

OPENING POST DUDE

im not sure whats the difference...:)

its all there , enjoy
[HTC EVO 3D] paroys:
Haha, penat aku cr kat thread chad 2, disini rupenya... Thanks bro!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
But in my understanding, your really stable voltages for Unity3b may not be my stable voltages because of our phones are different, isn't it?

However, pls show me your voltage with unity3b.

In your signature, you still using Anryl 10.7???
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Yes, every phone is different and some might take it, while some cant :)

You got that absolutely right

My current kernel is UNITY3B, with the voltage table in the front post (which is a mix of -25, -50 and -100 uv on different frequencies, which I actually got from some testing from anryl 10.07 kernel, and importing it into Leedroid, and Unity3b. It worked for me.

its generally

-50uv from anryl 10.07 for 192-1180 (stable for me)

-25uv from anryl 10.07 for 1180-1510 (stable for me)

-0 uv from unity3b 1510 to 1782 (i left it at stock, this is overclocking already and i dont support it, neither wish to lower voltages here to maintain stability)

and imported to Leedroid and Unity3b :)
[HTC EVO 3D] christan:
jcsy, the great :D

what kernel are u using for daily usage? (i mean your actual signature says anryl 10.07 but outta there 10.08 as you know.)

dont you like fast charge? if yes or no, please gimme reasons :p