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[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
:D I haven't applied your setting in your first post.

However, with your existing and without these settings which (I think) will affect our communication (means with the stock setting of Ginger bread)

(NAND: ROMeOS3D ★ UNSENSLATED [v1.3.3b]

Radio: 10.55.9020.00U_10

CPU: 384-1180mhz

Kernel: Anryl 10.07 -62.5UV (Interactive))

How long does your battery drain in normal use ? 1.5 days or 2 days????

One more question: How did you set undervolting in Anryl 10.07? only decrease same 62.5 mv for each Mhz? Any other setting such as boot setting...etc same as Unity V3B as mentioned in your theard?

Many thanks again for this great thread! Its so useful for me!
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
important thing to note that HOW MUCH UV you can drop it down to for 1.5 and 1.2 ghz

for 1.2 so far , i managed to reach 975mv on anryl 10.07

for 1.5 so far, i managed to reach 1100mv on anryl 10.07

on Unity3b, i believe Mdeejay uses higher mv's for each of his MHZ and its important to test for your own by using -12.5 once at a time.

system tuner can -12.5 one at a time, and it replicates itself to all the mhz

if you did -50, it will -50 for all

HONESTLY, for battery to last 2 days, i think gotta use it really sparingly. I wont leave home with battery at 50% though on Day 2

I use a full day and get home to about 30-40% at night... I would safely say 1 day is the best :)

getting thru the day through decent and heavy uses, is mandatory for me.

now im testing 1.5ghz and see if it can get me to the end of the day
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
I guess that you just push 5 times of "-12.5mV" in System Tuner to undervolt total 62.5mV. :D

I'm using exactly undervolting method explained by Mdeejay and I think it may be minimum mv for my phone, because when I put "-12.5 mV" the phone restart automatically.

For me, with Rom Leedroid + Kernel Unity V3 + Mdeejay undervolting method:

my phone is almost 100% stable (I said almost because I dont play game much to check it has glitches or not). And i also use full day for call & sms and come back home with 30-40% battery same as u.

I google about undervolting and the result is undervolting not damage the hardware and affects the performance (only stability if u set the unsuitable volt).

My question is why undervolting is not encouraged to apply in every smart phone?
[HTC EVO 3D] phikal:
Keep getting reboots just undervolted with 12'5 mv. Using anryl 10.7.

How is that possible ? Should be able to undervolt more I think.
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
I don't think undervolting too much can help. Sure, it helps for the battery life, at least in idle time or low-usage tasks (like browsing through the menu, calling etc.), but if you UV too much, I guess some games will start causing problems; games or high-usage tasks (streaming videos, Idk).

-50mV on LeeDrOiD ROM V5.3.0 w/ LeeDrOiD kernel V5.3.8, 192 MHz - 1.51 GHz = perfect. Too bad the undervolting doesn't stick all the time :) .
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
Formhault wrote "	I don't think undervolting too much can help. Sure, it helps for the battery life, at least in idle time or low-usage tasks (like browsing through the menu, calling etc.), but if you UV too much, I guess some games will start causing problems; games or high-usage tasks (streaming videos, Idk).

-50mV on LeeDrOiD ROM V5.3.0 w/ LeeDrOiD kernel V5.3.8, 192 MHz - 1.51 GHz = perfect. Too bad the undervolting doesn't stick all the time "

TKS for your information! But can u pls tell me about your battery life in normal use (no web, game) with above Setting?
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
Well... I already told you my current setup (CPU frequencies & voltages + ROM). I usually leave for school with ~100% battery, probably send some text messages during the first half of the day (until 1 PM), perhaps two ~1 minute calls... Then it's mostly surfing through the menu or playing a game for 5-10 minutes. Checking on Twitter/mail for a few times (Wi-Fi when available, otherwise Mobile Data)... Nothing too intense.

It's not the same everyday, though. One day I may not use the phone for more than doing a few calls, but the other I may be playing Pocket Legends for like 30 minutes, via 3G :D .
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
different EVO3D's from different countries have different CPU's attached

your CPU might be one of those really sensitive to UV, or even, your ROM or battery or anything

everyone has mixed varied results, but i suggest starting at 1.2ghz and -12.5v

and using the device and experience every stepping from 192 to 1.2ghz

then do more :)

when it AUTO REBOOTs, you know it cant handle that anymore

UV doesnt save MUCH battery, but slightly yes.. maybe that extra 1 hour of battery i would reckon...

in my opening post, take note that Mdj unity3b stock voltages are slightly higher than everyone else, and there might be a reason why

and also, since its that high, its more stable too
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
Different CPUs? WHAT?!

Sent from my LeeDrOiD-loaded 3VO
[HTC EVO 3D] christan:
Dont think he meant diff CPU but I can understand that all the CPU cannotbe thesame. Like your pc some are better built and some maybe worse. That means some people can uv or oc more than others ...

Me too running latest leedroid + latest Lee kernel and the same settings with 50mv uv ..

Battery is ok but i think as long as I come over school day its no prob
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Yup, some better, some more resilient, some more tolerant, while some not.

Doesn't mean u should "sell away" your evo 3d either...

Use stock UV, trust me, its not a big deal

I notice u were on king cobra ROM?

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[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
I want to know "your perfect battery" in percentage. With your above mentioned normal use every day, how many percent of battery left when u come back home in 5 p.m and how long does your battery life: 1.5 days or 2 days?

Q for JCSY:

Pls tell me which save the battery best except UV (slightly as u told)?

And why UV is not encouraged in almost Smartphone Forum when it save battery and no damage to the hardware?

TKS both of you!
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
I charge it at least once a day :) . Other than that... Well, it depends on the usage, really. I never get home with battery under 40%, though...

Oh, yeah, I know not all processors are exactly THE SAME. I thought you meant there are different CPU models in 3VO's... my bad :p .

I'm not going to sell the 3VO. Not yet, at least... I'll see how it starts to act crazy, then consider selling it... even though I intend to keep it for a looooooooong time...
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
so far following my configuration, its quite decent to get thru to the day

CPU at 1180 mhz as well with Interactive Governor :)

other than that , it depends on how u use your device, seriously

if you placed BRIGHTNESS AT 50%, im sure u will be dead by 6pm :D
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
updated thread to 1.22

included chad.goodman's forum :)
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
I see, bro. Congratulation. I always set automatic brightness and it is about 40% at 6 p.m not dead.

If I set 20% i have to manually change many times otherwise my eyes will be worse :D

By the way, I flashed again Anryl 10.7 and UV according to your new suggestion. However, I just press 4 times (-50 mV) only because at 5 times (-62.5 MV) it was rebooted. You're right about the stock voltage of Mdj is higher than normally.( He said -75 mV for him, but his UV equal to my -50 mV only).

I will feel my new setting and compare with Unity V3b + UV and inform in this thread. Have a nice weekend, bro!
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
I saved my voltage tables from anryl

And flashed anthrax

I noticed anthrax kernel voltages were really high. I just overwrite his voltages with anryl, worked like a charm

Voltages should work for every kernel, so I figured anryl -50 was the safest. -62.5 rebooted for me too

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[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
Could you pls answer my question about flashing Kernel , bro?

After flashing a Rom with Sense 3.5 or Rom ICS then I flash a Kernel such as Unity V3, Anthrax, Ledroid, Anryl.. mentioned in your thread. Any problem???

Because in the post of Kernel, i haven't seen the mention about version of android or sense which the Kernel is suitable with.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
SENSE 3.5 for our phone mostly ends up with bugs or kernel related issues

im not sure which Sense 3.5 ROM u are using, neither sure whether all the kernels i mentioned would work :)

im using a SENSE 3.0 ROM, which was DESENSED by the developer and can use anything and everything :)

any kernel, any 3d game or camera, and any app, without compatibility issues
[HTC EVO 3D] xb360:
Good work jcsy, appreciate your comparison.

I'm using Anryl 10.07 kernel, which I feel the most stable and battery last longest.

I got 1 suggestion, how about doing comparison test of battery drainage with same video playback? Maybe a 2 hours video, then we can see which one consume less power when usage. Video will give same CPU & GPU load, unlike other program which have load at different time. Because if we're talking about idle battery drainage, I've tried few and almost all kernel give about the same result when idle. But I notice the battery drops very fast is when on usage, so such test can show which kernel usage can last longer.
[HTC EVO 3D] phikal:
The new anthrax kernel works good for me, also has slide to wake.
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
I think his suggestion is a good idea, JCSY. I think at this time, our EVO 3D is still too fast for almost app and rom. Therefore, concentrate a little more at battery comparison may be get a better comparison.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
I too, have thought of the idea because tablet life is usually measured by a 720p HD movie played.

For example, iPad 3 can last for slightly near 9 hours , likewise the transformers prime

Most review sites use a 720p movie to evaluate, and according tto my friends who have these tablets, they are accurate

However, this also would make me unable to use the device, for like 2 hours

Let me give one a go, and slowly produce the results.

Any suggestions on the CPU governor during the test? Performance?

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[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
Pls use your HTC HD2 and another Nokia 1100. Sacrifice for Evo3D. :)

About governor during test: I think you should use the popular governor such as "interactive" or "ondemand" because the purpose of battery test is for daily use in which "performance" is used rarely (with me: haven't never used it). Moreover, we can find glitches which may not happen in performance governor during presenting a movie with interactive governor.

JCSY, According to your comparision:

Anryl 10.07 : Battery Test : 1% every 60 minutes during idle.

Estimated ma : -14 to -19ma estimated drain

Gaming : OK, better than anryl 10.06

Antutu Benchmark at 1.2GHZ without SD: Total (4642)

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Kamma v1.0 Battery Test : 1% every ~70 minutes during idle.

Estimated ma : -6ma to -9ma, occasionally -12ma

Gaming : No glitches. All games smooth, no glitches, no artifacts, like STOCK.

Antutu Benchmark at 1.2GHZ without SD: Total (4746)

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Every thing in conclusion seems to show Kama 1.0 may be better than Anryl 10.7. Why don't you use Kama 1.0?
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Simple.

Ponury slide to wake only works on anryl, antrhax and the later revisions of leedroid

I don't turn it on, but only when I need to show off, lol

-kills iPhone and sgs fans, nah I'm kidding

Anyways, anryl feels snappier, faster.

While gaming its the same as Kamma honestly. Anthrax gaming is smoother, but not by miles to anryl and leedroid. One thing I realized on anthrax is that it is completely graphically fast, meaning actual usage with video, 2d or 3d. Its like it responds better in games too.

On another note, yes I think I will use my interactive governor to do the tests

I have observed interactive vs performance, and the CPU fluctuations are minimal, movie doesn't even flinched

This is by looking at CPU usage monitor and playing HD movie of fast 5

I just spent 5 hours configuring a friends galaxy nexus and boy that crap is fast too. However, I must say stock doesn't match our custom roms yet. A custom ROM in that nexus will blow our ass though, lol

So yes, had a busy day and would probably play the movie, and sleep off. Check battery usage tomorrow and calculate that way on how many % I'm left with.

Can't do that now, honestly as my battery is at 15% and need to charge up for church tomorrow. Let u guys know probably tomorrow onwards, for kernels like anthrax, anryl and leedroid.

I actually have 2x HD 2,

One on ICS, another on WP 7.5 but I'm not willing to use them lol... I love my evo

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[HTC EVO 3D] kire.htc:
Can you please give me link for Anthrax kernel?
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Sorry I can't. Its better for u to sign up, read the clauses, understand, get the username and password, download and flash. Honestly .. Its for all our good

Sent from my HD2 using Board Express

EDIT :

Demoted Anthrax RLS001a kernel to THE VAULT

Prepare for the new anthrax TEST14 kernel results, with movie playback for 2 hours
[HTC EVO 3D] danny6514:
Why would you test a very outdated kernel? (TEST14)

Chad just released a new kernel yesterday...
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
sorry my bad, was reading and typing something at the same time

i meant this ;

GSM-SENSE-AnthraX-2.6.38.6-032212_1830.zip :)

i already did the movie test, and will run thru the rest of the test now :)

2 days ago :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
LeeDrOiD V5.3.0 w/ Lee's latest kernel V5.3.8.

192 MHz - 1.51 GHz.

I set the Governor to Ondemand for general purposes, but when I want to play a game, I'd rather set it to Interactive, otherwise it lags every few seconds :) . Same goes for YouTube videos, it seems :rolleyes: . Anyway... you got the point.

But that's because Lee tweaked the Ondemand in such way that it's a 2-phase <something>, so it eats less power.

I didn't try the latest AnthraX kernels. The word TEST<##> somewhat tricks my mind into saying "NO!!!". Guess I'll try them out, pretty soon.

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The MOVIE test:

Charge to 100%

Set CPU speed to 384-1180

Set Governor to INTERACTIVE

Ensure EDGE is turned ON

Ensure there is no UNDERVOLTAGE

Browser HD movie : FAST 5 (Yes our ROM is Fast and Furious 5x )

Check start time

Open using defaul Gallery App

Play for 1 hour (check battery drain)

Play for 2 hours & 10 minutes (complete movie)

Check end time

Check logs for battery drain %

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EDGE turned on? You mean 2G standby, or Mobile Data enabled in 2G (EDGE)?!

Also, what's with the ROM? It is 5 times faster & furious than any other? Name (& link), please?

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The battery test:

Charge to 100%

Leave phone idle completely

Edge is ON

Auto Sync is ON

No mail syncs

Widgets are manually updated, except Weather every 12 hours

Left alone for 5-6 hours (During my sleep)

No special SCREEN OFF configurations

Interactive governor 384-1.2Ghz

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What's with the screen off configuration?! You mean the CRT animation?!
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Anthrax latest kernels are no longer test. They are in my opinion quite stable already. I made a typo while reading about his kernel and labeled it as TEST14. If you read the following post, I corrected it :)

MOBILE DATA ON, 2G.... There issnt any point for 3G/HSDPA while we watch a movie. I want to evaluate at least some sort of connectivity, while watching a movie... and still get my messages.

Its the same ROM i use in the entire test on my kernel, observations, movie, battery and a whole load of other things :) ROMEOS 1.3.3 :)

SCREEN OFF configurations are configurations like, set governor to powersave etc

I dont have such things, or even decrease CPU speed while screen off
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
Why would you keep Mobile Data turned on?

Mate, perhaps your definition of Mobile Data is incorrect. Mobile Data is not necessary for SMS to come through. It only means Mobile Internet access, and leaving it on drains a bit more power. Unless you need it, but I believe you have a Wi-Fi nearby...
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
TKS for your Answer!

Turning off "Ponury slide to wake" save more battery, doesn't it?

I think you should apply a new movie - test for Kamma v1.0 (which is a good Kernel) also if possible because the latter doesn't mean the better (your opinion as I remember).
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
Ponury does use a bit more power, since it has to keep the touchscreen on, hence making it draw a few more miliamps. It's not that much, anyway. But in life-or-death situations (as in battery going low when you need it), I'd reccomend disabling it...
[HTC EVO 3D] jekyll86:
I noticed more battery drainage with latest antrhax kernel. Did you notice it too?
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
ok. I see.

I dont know whether in night my phone fully be in sleep mode if I still set auto sync for mail (1 hour interval), weather (12 hours interval) and Ponury also?

TKS for answering.
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
i believe 2G @ EDGE, is more consistent and stable than a WIFI

i can run the test anywhere, not depending on where a WIFI

i have a day job and my job is not a desk job

with EDGE, its what we have turned on for most of us, or rather, what I guess would be turned on to maintain data connection

you also wont turn your data off 2 watch a movie, but thats up 2 u.

im going to run this test consistently to all movies :)

kamma's kernel is probably not developed anymore but I would have 2 consider it then...

anryl was based on kamma's kernel with ponury working after 10.03

ponury eats absolutely 0 battery, up until it registers any SLIGHTEST TOUCH on the screen, or the buttons below ...

if you place it in a pouch , or in your pants or handbag, its probably never going to get touched...

i placed it on my T-SHIRT upper pocket, brushing against my chest, and it drains this way cause it registers the touches non stop

I turned it off , for now... i use camera button now 2 wake the phone

i have not noticed, as I have to completely settle the phone to provide the best results for a few kernels above, and its quite time consuming :)

i only had it for 1 day, which was yesterday, where i tethered my 3G for 5 hours, dropping 50% with screen off completely.. was helping a friend setup her Galaxy Nexus

still pretty good, i have 2 say

nope, it still syncs.. unless you turn off AUTO SYNC when u sleep, where there are shortcuts and widgets 2 do that or even, TASKER to automate it for u say between 1AM to 8AM :)
[HTC EVO 3D] kire.htc:
What are stock mV at 192mHz on stock kernel?

Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
JCSY, we need to set some things straight.

2G = GSM (GPRS/EDGE).

3G = UMTS / HSDPA.

When you have Mobile Data (as in Internet access) turned off, in 2G, it is GSM (GPRS?), and in 3G, it is UMTS. When you have Mobile Data turned ON, 2G becomes EDGE and 3G becomes HSDPA.

Leaving Mobile Data turned on while you are watching a movie makes no sense. Unless you were STREAMING that video, in which case you would end up with terrible data usage and battery loss...
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
Ok, I'm setting 2g , according to your description of it, its mobile data with edge

Don't u want some form of connection

I'm assuming a normal person won't turn off his data while watching a movie. Anyways, edge doesn't use much in that 2 hours, probably 1-2% because its my sleeping hours... But I wanted some form of lowest connection to simulate outdoor use

Wifi is not always available, and 3g is waste of battery when not using

As for stock voltage for 192, I don't think there is one since 192 is not something the stock kernel is capable off.. might be wrong..

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[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
Yeah, well, I only enable Mobile Data when I want Internet connection : to check my mailbox, update weather, check forums...

But perhaps you have AutoSync, right. On another note : it would be nice to see Android having this feature from Symbian - the Internet connection is enabled WHEN NEEDED, so you don't have to keep it always on... or enable it manually when it's needed... I really miss that from Symbian !
[HTC EVO 3D] jcsy:
i think juice defender does that already

and for me , mobile data is always required... need whats app

EDIT:

excited to see Leedroid 5.3.8 movie test results tonight... i believe this guy will pull the furthest results, as compared already to the anthrax and anryl kernels, which both pulled 34% and 33% respectively on a 2 hour HD movie
[HTC EVO 3D] Traxex_:
I've to agree with you, mobile data always on is a must when using whatsapp and other instant messenger.
[HTC EVO 3D] tomcathct:
Tks for your explanation of Ponury. I always put my Evo3D in the pocket of Jean, and I found that our touchscreen still works even it touch our skin via a jean (meanwhile Iphone 3GS doesn't -> Why? I don't know. In my understanding, Iphone and Evo 3d have the same technology of touchscreen). Therefore, if we use Ponury and put in pocket of shirt or Jean, it will drain battery all the time.

It's good to hear the first result of new testing method. however, it seem no much variation between the two Kernels which have much different battery draining by the idle test. I think we should wait all the results and consider...

One small idea for your comparison: In this moment, you applied UnderVolting only for Unity V3b before test. Is this fair for the other kernels?
[HTC EVO 3D] Formhault:
A friend of mine has one of those MOMAX iCase Pro cases for his EVO 3D. The power button is so easily pressed : you merely have to touch it :) . If he puts it in his jeans pocket, it is obviously going to press itself while you walk... So the screen comes on, and then the touch screen is activated and, basically, you touch it with your leg. He oftentimes sees the phone in games or such when he takes it out. Misplaced calls here and there... Not much of an issue, right? =}

I had one of those cases, too. Not only the power button was tricky, but also the camera button. I was unable to press it in any way, but if I lifted the case on that side just a bit, 3 photos instandly made -.- ffs.

S-Line cases ftw !
[HTC EVO 3D] kire.htc:
If there is no stock 192mhz, than tell me some other stock mhz with stock voltage, because i don't know how much uv i am using right now. Am on 192mhz with 750mv. Thanks