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[HTC EVO 3D] Showtime7:
I am disappointed that I've been unable to sell my 3D at a decent price. I've been wanting to sell it to buy a GS2 or just trade it for a GS2 (which is what I really wanted when I signed up with sprint, but they didn't have it yet). I'm not unhappy with my phone but I'm attracted to the higher quality camera on the GS2 and the larger more vibrant screen.

It's good if you're looking to buy a great phone at a decent price, but not so much for those of us trying to sell!
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
Never heard of that. I've had mine since launch day and it's been fine. Gotta be something they/she/he/you are doing.
[HTC EVO 3D] mildlydisturbed:
Thinking on this some... the EVO 4G was new and a huge improvement over anything on the market - it had a name, it was known, people lusted after it.

the 3D - it's an improvement over the 4G, but honestly I still loved playing with my 4G till the death-brick.

Dual core of the 3D was pretty sweet, but it wasn't twice as sweet. In terms of performance, the 3D is ~30% better.

In terms of the CDMA versions of the phones, the WiMax 4G tech is a dead end. Buy this on Sprint and it's useless for 4G in the future.

And now, look what is coming... we have 4 core phones this year, NFC which will potentially revolutionize payment, speed and storage like never before.

But mostly, it's that it tried riding the coattails of the 3D resurrection and other than giving your friends headaches trying to explain to them how to hold it properly. Meh... 3d is cool, but that's ALL they sold this phone as..
[HTC EVO 3D] stnel:
Ok, I also bought a brand new EVO 3D (in Europe), for about 289 EUR, unlocked, from an online retailer.

I can say with the highest safety that these drops in prices are caused by hardware defective lots released unto the market, maybe lots that got very bad marks after quality control checks.

Why?

Because my EVO 3D, beside coming sealed and untouched, has so many flaws I have never seen in another such device ever. I own an iPhone 4S, a Samsung Galaxy S, an Asus Transformer and a Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo currently besides the Evo, and the old ones (like SGS) are regaining my respect after playing for a week with this EVO.

Just to name some, in no particular order, they are:

- horrible build construction, with ON/OFF and volume bottons so hard to press (the top and right sides are almost flat, you have to press hard a few times with your finger tip to turn it on), the 3D camera switch is trembling like it is going to fly away any time, lots of squeaks from the battery cover etc.

- the screen is not aligned with the black frame painted on the front glass, it's like rotated 1-2 degrees clockwise and shifted out of place to the right side with about 1/2mm. If you look at the screen from the right you are missing a bunch of pixel columns of the right side of the screen. It's outrageous!

- the display itself is rather good inside, with good contrast and luminosity, but the viewing angles are just horrible. If you don't hold it steady and perpendicular on your eye sight it's hurting your eyes. Even when slightly tilting to left/right the image fades away, it's like having a 10 degrees horizontal viewing angle. And don't make me start with the outside sunlight visibility, which is bad, very bad.

- the display, when on almost white/black scenes has a noticeable fade to black/white respectively for about 8-10mm at the bottom. It's like the screen is dirty there an I am always finding my finger trying to clean that area of the screen when using the browser.

- the capacitive buttons at the bottom are way to bright, and are always on. Stock apps don't dim them ever (including video player, youtube, which should have been), and when other apps are switching them off (say like MX Video Player) the search button remains half on, which becomes annoying after some video playing. Maybe that's why the stock apps are not switching them off never, to cover this flaw.

- beside the speakers being good in playing music and other audio, the audio call quality is just horrible, with both earpiece and loudspeaker all squeaky and noisy.

- the battery, besides using it as my third device and mainly at home, hardly gets you through the all day

- etc.

Sorry for my English on this too long post.
[HTC EVO 3D] Phillmitchell:
Thanks.i just ordered one from asda uk so im now expecting a faulty scratched phone tomorrow :mad:
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
I also think this phone's buzz whore off quickly and was never really discussed in comparison reviews when a new top end phone would drop...

Every new top end phone to come out was usually compared to the Galaxy S2 and it still seems that way. The EVO 3D just kind of fell off the charts and you really never heard it brought up anywhere in a positive way...
[HTC EVO 3D] stnel:
Yeah... But I didn't say that my phone was scratched. :) It has Gorilla Glass though.

Now, to be honest, for the price it's still a fair deal. Or... I am yet having to decide that. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] legion1911:
Would you please explain why you are not sending it back to the online retailer with this good, detailed list of problems, so that HTC notices there is a problem because a lot of devices are coming back?
[HTC EVO 3D] stnel:
Because... Like I said, it still is a good deal, at least in my country. Maybe I am too much of a perfectionist. I mentioned these issues also on a local forum and there where a lot of people who also bought this on discount and admitted they have these issues too but they didn't discover them until I gave those explanations, and still, they wouldn't bother that much. So... why would I? I am too lazy... :) Again, I have another 5 days (15 days) to decide whether the deal is balanced enough to keep it, until I can RMA it. But for now the balance is in favor of keeping it.

And oh, I didn't mention something really important: before buying it, I quickly checked if it is suported by CyanogenMod, and after seeing it here: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices I thought this was perfect. Then, a couple of days ago, checking the CyanogenMod site again for it (was about to try it because of the way too much bloatware), to my consternation I found that "this time only the CDMA variant is supported"!!! And in Europe we have the GSM one...

LE: To respond to your question: I think HTC already knows these lots have problems, that's why they are selling them at these 50%-some discounts. And you know what? They succeded in imposing these hardware flawed lots and still making some small profits, since because of the discounts even perfectionists like me wouldn't bother them much with RMAs and stuff. Not even considering those who think they made the deal of the year, because they don't have eyes for those issues.
[HTC EVO 3D] legion1911:
It must be great to make business in Romania.

I have some things to sell you....

Anyway thank you very much for this information! You stopped me from doing an error.

The Evo 3D is at place 3 in the current sales charts, beating the Galaxy Note.
[HTC EVO 3D] stnel:
You are welcome. But... what error? If you find it there at relatively similar deal (50% off), it is not a bad idea though.

Touching the businesses in Romania, I must tell you that it wouldn't be too easy to sell something here. :) Returning to what I said, it is a good deal that price, because in general prices tend to be a little higher here than in the rest of Europe, because of the taxes. Only VAT is here 24%, not mentioning others...
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
Simply put the phone wasn't all that popular... nowhere near like the first. And on top of that, in the smartphone market the only phones that really hold their value are Iphones. Around here you can get the 3D's new for $200 now.

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This! I had to chop the price of mine 3 times before I even got any phone calls about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] ycats:
I'm hoping to hang on to my EVO3D until (hopefully) the Samsung Galaxy Note (5.3 amoled screen) comes to Sprint. I almost bought a slightly used EVO3D from Craigslist for my wife a couple of weeks ago for $130..........and I too have been surprised at the low prices. I think the iphone-4s now on Sprint has had an affect on these because I see a lot of ads wanting to trade+cash for the 4S. I bought the 3D the second week it was out for $375, but sold my EVO4G for $175 and I thought that was too low but had to go that low when looking around and seeing what they were selling for. What helps to sell a phone that I've learned in the past is to have accessories. I had to sell my TP2 to get the EVO4G, well I had extra batteries, 8gig microsd card to go with it and sold for $240 then bought the 4G for $199. Currently I have a 16gb and a 32gb card for the 3D, case for the device when using regular size battery and also have the 3500mah battery.
[HTC EVO 3D] Warren_Orange:
I think you should have got the Nexus S from the CPW.

I have to agree with stnel sentiments to a certain extent. I know it's not exactly the same but after my Hero I bought a HD2 last summer and put android on it. The HD2 really lowered my respect for HTC. The devices screen was awful, the digitizer was not accurate even after calibration within android. You could also see the digitizer touch sensors under the screen in normal daylight. The touch screen would also miss presses, like one press in ten wouldn't be registered by the device - extremely annoying when you are txting. Luckily I kept my Hero and got shut of the HD2, but it left me disappointed.

Anyway I saw the Nexus S deal over on hotukdeals and thought I'd give it a shot as £200 was the max I wanted to spend. Anyway I can safely say that I am a Sammy man from now on. The phone has really exceeded my expectations, especially running ICS.

It's a shame as I always had a soft spot for HTC with the Hero being my first smartphone. But it's sad to say that the nexus one/desire was probably the last great phone HTC have made for the Uk market.

I hope I'm wrong and you really like your evo 3d. Just offering my opinion.

Cheers.
[HTC EVO 3D] il buono:
Nicely put eman. Surprisingly though I've put my E4GT away for the past couple days to use the evo 3d. It must be the development here :)

Sent from my \_3vo_/
[HTC EVO 3D] cipher77:
just wanted to throw in my two cents.

my 3d is a solid performing phone.

picked it up last summer.

no troubles at all.

spent most of my time waiting around for a root method.

6 months later...zilch for 1.5.

in that time...i came to realise a few things:

1. as a phone...i have zero complaints.

2. as a multimedia device...i have zero complaints.

that about covers that aspect of it.

on the other hand...not being able to have an unlocked S kind of takes the steam out of it. my 4g now belongs to my wife and she has the patience of a monk while i constantly goof around with it. rooting and romming can be fun...but, most importantly...it really does pull the most out of a phone.

my two points above can only be superceded by the fact that my 3d could be soo much better regarding battery life (setcpu or a kernel), the camera could be better (tho, i did install the amaze port)...i could go on and on.

i've replaced my 3d twice now. i'm on my 3rd one. problems with the digitizer about a month ago. then, the replacement phone (also 1.5) wouldn't wake from sleep a few times a day. VERY annoying. store guys ran their diagnostics and found nothing. not even that it was getting rebooted so many times a day.

crappy diagnostics. at any rate, replaced that one and am on my 3rd.

so far so good. i figured since i already had 1.5 it wouldn't hurt to install the latest update. it's a smoother phone now (much better w/o ciq).

my point?

it's a solid phone. the hardware specs are great and will match up, or beat (with root) a LOT of other phones out there.

ask yourself what you want from it.

as for defects in your phone that you don't like. if you won't be able to handle it ona regular basis...return it. even for that amount of money. you'll be better off in the long run. like everyone else has said...it's a solid phone.

i'm giving myself another empty week or two of waiting for a root method to my 3d...if not...i'll go htc's route. better that than nothing.

once i root...i'll be even happier again and will have the ability to make the phone a much different, and greater, beast.

ok...that's my cheap 2 cents.

good luck!

PS...

one of the reasons i think it fell off the map is the 3d. it's a gimmick. albeit, a VERY nifty gimmick. i rather enjoy it and swap pics with my brother...it's just FUN. theoretically, like having a twitter app on your phone. just an added plus. the 3d works well. but, once it was panned as useless...[b/c, it is (it serves nothing other than a whimsical purpose)]...not necessarily as AWFUL...the phone itself was overlooked. what no remembered to look at were the guts of the phone. they are, again...pretty solid.
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
+1

I took a good hard look at the guts of this phone before I bought it...FM radio, asynchronous dual core, gobs of memory, low power GPS module, low power audio module, low voltage 45 nanometer chip technology, adreno 220 gpu, 64 bit front side bus, likelihood of being rooted early in the lifecycle, HTC's name on the front (I previously owned a Hero).

Like someone said earlier, what is it that you want in a phone? I wanted a lot of value for my dollar, and I still believe that's what I got. I'm very happy with my EVO 3D.

Edit: I couldn't care less about the 3D aspect of it. That's not why I bought the phone. I bought it because it was and still is an awesome smartphone.
[HTC EVO 3D] bmoreboy02:
Out of curiosity i placed an add in craigs list. Evo 3d with all original accessories plus ballistic HC case and BNIB otterbox defender case for $450. Within 2hrs i was offered my asking price and someone offered to trade a white iphone 4s straight up. Value must be doing ok
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
Lol, that there's some good sleuthing work, and good information dude, thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
From my guess sprint is doing a deal on all wimax phones to move onto the new LTE phones :o I guess from what I have seen ....
[HTC EVO 3D] prodlouc:
Hi guys , I have sensation but always like to have a second, back up phone. I kept for this my little hd mini but as soon as noticed new price for evo 3d I bought it (€275) . Yes is nice phone , I am enjoying 3d and yes its price is under-valuated ! Thanks for those who decided to reduce its price !
[HTC EVO 3D] Phillmitchell:
I also bought a nexus s thinking it was a good deal.I had to exchange the first device had the same problems with the second so got rid at a £110 loss after having it for 10 days.I think the nexus s is an awful cheap dated device.small and plastic and doubt google will be able to update it to ICS having pulled the update.
[HTC EVO 3D] Terepin:
All Samsung devices are plastic toys. That's why I will NEVER buy them.

Plus they lack Sense.
[HTC EVO 3D] sprintuser1977:
many many people see that as a plus.

From the giant: Galaxy Note
[HTC EVO 3D] Warren_Orange:
I'm sorry for your bad luck with the NS. I've been running stock ICS since boxing day fine. Easy get 36 hours with light use. I feel no need to root at this present time because I'm that happy with the speed of the phone.

I also had reservations about the plastic build coming from HTC, but apart from being a little slippy in the hand, it feels very solid and looks sexy as hell with the curved screen.

I sure you'll be happy with your 3d.

Take it easy.
[HTC EVO 3D] Terepin:
I do not. I tried several times vanilla Android - never again.

Odoslané z môjho HTC EVO 3D X515m cez Tapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] Warren_Orange:
ICS stock is different. Its a real step up over GB.

I don't miss sense at all using ICS.
[HTC EVO 3D] Terepin:
It ain't problem with the look, but with the functionality.
[HTC EVO 3D] Saneless One:
If HTC offered a stock OS experience and just provided the drivers for the camera and 3D, I would update right this second.
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
You can get what you're looking for by using an alternate launcher (I use ADW Standalone launcher). Voila, no more silly Sense carousel (and no more access to Sense widgets, btw), but you still get full camera and gallery capabilities.
[HTC EVO 3D] hungry81:
So because you say you're having these problems that affects the worldwide market? If you have a defective model and didn't exchange it in warenty, thats your problem. That list of issues you posted are definately not affecting my phone. Dont bring an obsure individual rant to a topic about a much broader subject.

The build quality in my opinion is fine, and I agree with the reason for the price drop is that the phone is older and not as popular as it could be, But I would add that the lack of 3d content from HTC (including from HTC watch the official movie store) has not helped matters.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
But the ram is still being used by sense?

It's like throwing roses on ****.... It doesn't remove sense... Just covers it up
[HTC EVO 3D] gx3k:
I was saving for a Galaxy note which is my dream phone but saw a deal in ASDA UK and bought this one instead. For almost half the price of the note I get all the things I wanted from the EVO 3d except for the bigger screen. It is a decent upgrade from my ZTE blade and does everything I wanted (smooth gaming, fast sat nav, calls & text).Yes the battery is a bit lacking and the 3d part is not so impressive but I don't think there is any phone available that will match the specs of the EVO 3d at the same price point. I am very happy with my purchase and I think by the time I am done with the EVO 3d I will be able to afford the galaxy note or something better :)

Sent from my HTC EVO 3d s-off LeeDroid
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
I don't understand anyways what you would even do with a screen that big. I have big hands, and even the galaxy S II with it's 4.5 inch screen was a little uncomfortable. it was borderline not natural feeling in my hands. 5 inch screen? no thanks. I will buy a tablet at that point
[HTC EVO 3D] gx3k:
To each his own. There are people who enjoy large screens for browsing, navigation, playing media, etc. that's why the galaxy note was created. Some people also prefer having one device because it's cheaper and easier to carry around than 2 separate device. Chill, the world is not made for only one person.

Sent from my HTC EVO 3d s-off LeeDroid
[HTC EVO 3D] eman3316@optonline.net:
He was just giving his opinion, Isn't that what these sites are made for?

I do agree though as nice as the Note sounds, I can't imagine anything larger then the 4.5" SGS2. I guess as long as you do not need to carry it your pocket or on your belt it is okay. Not seeing one, are you even able to use the device with 1 hand? Once you pass that I believe it loses the sense of being a daily phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] sprintuser1977:
Yea I've got both. Note is good phone. I personally like large screens for reading, games and movies. Both are good phones, biggest difference is screen size and look. The notes screen to me anyway is way better. But if you don't care about that the 3d is a fine phone, even with all the new ones out. Especially when rooted and modded.

From the giant: Galaxy Note
[HTC EVO 3D] gx3k:
I was also giving mine :)

Sent from my HTC EVO 3d s-off LeeDroid
[HTC EVO 3D] Saneless One:
Sense is more than just the launcher.

It's things running in the background for who knows what reason. It's a 2 minute reboot vs 20 seconds. It's a media player that buts in when I connect things instead of letting the one I want to run run instead. It's a bad version of Swype. I't's a lot of wasted RAM. And most importantly to me, Sense has by far the worst Bluetooth stack out of any phone probably ever made. I've heard better sound come out of a discman hooked up to a tape adapter.

And I know it's sense because with an AOSP ROM, all those problems go away. And I don't even want to hear that I knew what I was getting with sense. no, I did not know they didn't know how to use the standard perfectly-working BT/A2DP code that Google had and would want to mess up something so easy. The awful sound is my #1 reason for wanting to go AOSP.
[HTC EVO 3D] stnel:
Yeah? Then what are you expecting to find on this thread? Praise and thanks to HTC for discounts? Just go and be happy with it, don't judge me here and there (personally) for that.

I was explaining at large that I have found these issues being reported a lot on local forums, and there were guys who got their phones replaced two or three times and they were all faulty. I have literally seen these stocks on discount being a lot faulty. My brother also bought one, and except for the trembling 3d switch got them all, so I was speaking knowingly.

My conclusion was that it was just a bit hard to decide whether I shall keep it (for the price) or return it. And I chose to keep it. And... to be honest, the only thing that still annoys me a lot about it (after days of getting used to it) it's that displacement of the display under the front glass (rotated and shifted to the right), which is hard not to see.

To be more on topic: earlier HTC EVO 3D users (before discounts), your value is not falling so much, it's just lots at it's production end which happen to be lower on quality. It's stupid to state that the discounts are for the product not being successful on the market. That's not a reason to sell a dual core device (with all that specs) at much lower price than, let's say, Desire HD or Desire S (single cores, older etc.) or lower than all their range of WP7 devices (which aren't a big success either), not to speak about the Sensation, which keeps it's 450 EUR price, despite not being a success itself and also coming with a lot of issues.
[HTC EVO 3D] oldjackbob:
Aren't there Sense-less roms available that deliver what you're looking for?
[HTC EVO 3D] zonyl:
Doing better than me in your city. My in box assurion replacement has been on Cl for 3 days @240 with no solid offers yet.
[HTC EVO 3D] Cuppeerr:
The evo 3d and og evo are both $99 at sprint now. Hmmmmmm
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] metalrawk:
this method is by dooomlord and revolutionary team. it's already posted. you need to read the rules before posting. have you got dooomlord's permission to post this again? you haven't even mentioned original developer in your post.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] mo0309:
Root St15i with software .64

Is it possible to root the latest baseband version (.64) using this method?

I have read quite a few posts but very few of them give informaton about the latest update and it's compatability. Just don't want to brick my phone.

Please help!!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] metalrawk:
no. you can't use this method to root .62
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ameenbp94:
so sad..

my xperia mini pro is .62.

so cant root??? so sad:(:(

is it possible to downgrade it so I can root?

help me please?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] melander:
please do a search,

try this threads...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1559685

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1512530
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] 42me:
yes that right ,i try it before does'nt work for me just unlock bootloader all the next step easy for me.....:D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Someguyfromhell:
Stock 4.0.2.A.0.62 and .69 ROMs cannot be directly rooted. You need to downgrade first, root and then update firmware from phone directly(OTA).
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] AryanAkanskh:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1626215

Here's a detaild info n hw to do tat!

Happy rooting
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] supernova284:
Help a total noob please

can anyone tell me what is the last download link is i cant seem to get it to load that page at all......

Thank you :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] wolfmannight:
thanks :D