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[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
Heh, I kinda figured as much. But the first bit of your post was perfectly believable, so I wasn't sure if the whole thing was a joke or not. Maybe your sense of humor is like my wife's. I can't tell when she is kidding half the time, either!

Audiophiles, to me are a bit of a joke, similar to most self-proclaimed "experts" concerning things that are really a matter of personal taste. One person on here mentioned a German study, where so-called "audiophiles" could not discern a low bitrate MP3 recording from a CD and other less lossy formats. I've also heard of a study where supposed wine "experts" couldn't tell cheap $10/bottle wine from an expensive vintage, when tested double blind.

Similar to what you mention, enjoy things as you like, and no need to go overboard.

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When making such over-arching statements, it would be useful to cite your sources.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Superfr34k:
Im using the beats audio studio settings in sense 4. That Sounds quite amazing especially in my Car! Is ist possible to imitate that Sound with an equalizer of is it a kind of Audio codec and decoder that beats uses?
[G2 and Desire Z General] crestofawave:
Let me level with you...beats is nothing more than htc's take on marketing. It's a mere equalizer tweak and a horrid one, if I may add. DSPManager or Volume+ will be better in any case.

Sent from my DZ.
[G2 and Desire Z General] johrie:
I actually like beats. If you have a cheap headphone like I have and don't like fideling around with EQ settings it is great makes my music sound great.

But I often find my self going back to AOSP ROMs because there faster :p so if anyone could post a screenshot of there current DSP settings ( I like to listen to rock/d'n'b ).
[G2 and Desire Z General] iamnoobie:
I implore you to further clarify the proportion of this stairway. Moreover, will this "stairway" be ascending or descending?

I listen to mastered 50's music, and thus, if certain settings need to be altered, inform me.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Proxin:
Thanks, will try this out. I never know what options to change in it so DSPManager has had minimal use by me thus far.
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
Geez, you guys make it sound like freaking brain surgery, and its really very simple. As with just about any EQ controls, the sliders on the left are lower frequencies (bass), the right are higher (treble). Just tweak them until they sound pleasing to you. Listen to a few various types of music you like (fast/slow songs, heavy/soft ones) to find an EQ profile that works in most situations (as most of us will probably not bother changing setting just every time you change music types).

The other options on DSP are just on/off toggles. Try both on and off, and see what sounds better to you. If you don't have a preference, leave it off.

Its disappointing that so many people like being TOLD what sounds good. Instead of adjusting it to fit YOUR taste, which is the whole purpose behind the customizability of DSP. Asking someone to give you an EQ curve that's best, is like asking someone else to tell you what color is your favorite.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Proxin:
As for me, there's no real tutorial about the equalizer like what you've just described (thanks for explaining what everything does, btw), and I don't know much about audio levels so I don't tinker with it. But I want to take advantage of the features on my ROM, and a simple "Here's how I did it, try it and see how you like it" thread like this is very helpful to myself and others in situations like mine.

No reason to think it's bad for someone to post their settings in case others want to use them. It's a positive contribution to the community, don't be disappointed. Of course it's not rocket science, but it isn't exactly elaborated well like you just posted either.
[G2 and Desire Z General] costipl:
Whatever happened with "hmm, let's see what it does"? ;) Besides, every equalizer on the planet, hardware or software, operates on exactly the same principle and has done so for ages...

Actually, IMHO it is bad. The thing is: the is no universal equalizer setting. There even aren't any recommended settings. The point of an equalizer in playback is to adjust the sound to your preferences and your ears and headphones/speakers.

Therefore, using someone else's profile instead of playing with it on ones own might result in a "WTF is this crap?" effect, which in turn will make someone completely miss the point of using an equalizer.
[G2 and Desire Z General] Proxin:
Nothing happened to it, and nobody said it's wrong. Different people work different ways, and this thread happens to be meant for people who don't know much about equalizer settings because of lack of documentation.

Bagging on the thread or readers of it for simply being different in execution than yourself is just like saying "red is better than blue, how can people fricken think that blue is better?".

You're right that there are no universal settings, but that doesn't mean the thread is useless. Somebody thought it would be helpful and decided to post it, and it happened to be helpful for some people. That's a good thing.

I'm not going to delve into "what if" results as to avoid having a theoretical debate and waste everyone's time and thread posts. I don't mean harm in my words, but I feel that the OP (and redpoint73's post as well) both have important information about what the different equalizer options do and how one should use them, so neither deserve be under harsh criticism.

(I'll level with you about this though, the title might stand a change in wording, as "Best settings" surely will not apply to everyone :p )

To not drag the thread off-topic further, if you wish to continue discussion we may do it via PM; as this has nothing to do with DSP settings or our success with them.
[G2 and Desire Z General] redpoint73:
I agree with costipl in that my issue with the OP is not necessarily with the content, such as explaining the functions, which I agree is pretty useful; but rather, in the way that its presented. The OP touts his settings as "best" and pretty much states they are universally superior. In this, he pretty much says "red is better than blue, no matter what":

The claim that EQ settings are "best" regardless of the playback equipment being used is hogwash. Differences and weaknesses in speakers and headphones are one of the PRIMARY reasons that EQ controls exist.

The thread would have been much better off reading "suggested", "recommended" or even "favorite" DSP settings. Same as when people keep asking for the "best" custom ROM. There is no such thing. But recommended or favorite ones, certainly.

I also agree with Proxin in that this thread probably has some net positive benefit to the community here, as it helps explain some of the DSP settings. But that also doesn't mean that it can't be improved on, and there is a quite a bit or room for improvement on this "guide". And all of the criticisms to this point have been completely constructive. Its not like people are tearing it down for no reason, or being particularly rude. Without constructive criticism, things never get improved.
[G2 and Desire Z General] RazerRazer04:
Could you show a screenshot of the stairform eq?
[G2 and Desire Z General] YokoMotive:
I agree with redpoint, EQ settings compensate for deficiencies in hardware. IE, crappy headphones / speakers. That being said, some people do not know much about audio so they are really looking for suggestions that offer something that is better than stock.

I've found that ****ty headphones are deficient in one of two areas; no bass or too much bass. Figure out where your headphones fall and adjust for the weakness. The right side of the EQ is to boost the high sounds, the left side is to boost the bass. One thing to keep in mind is that boosting a particular EQ slider also has a detrimental effect on the neighboring slider. So try not to make the steps too drastic, it will only hurt your sound quality. The other settings are as needed (Dynamic Range Compression, loudness boosting, virtual room, etc.), just A/B test these. If it sounds better, keep it. As far as boosting the EQ (setting the sliders above +0), the only way to tell if you need this or not is if you had an app that could provide feedback on the sound prior to entering the DSP to see if it is under 0. I don't know of any such app, so again, fall back on what sounds best to your ears.

Since everyone loves screenshots and samples, here is what I am running with my Klipsch Reference S4. These are pretty decent inner ear buds that can be found for $50 usually. That's about the max that I'm going to spend on portable headphones, I break them once or twice a year. These headphones have a decent range, but the mid-range can be muddy, so vocals and guitars need a boost. I am still tweaking my settings, but these settings work pretty well so far. Honestly, the vocals still sound a bit underwater so I'll probably boost that a bit.

Sorry to necropost but I see these questions a lot and want to chip in my $0.02.
[G2 and Desire Z General] VeryCoolAlan:
That's how I have mine on my FAKE Studios
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] VeryCoolAlan:
Hi, after many months and Power Amping I decided to stop PA and use UberMusic with DSP!

Now if you don't know what DSP manager is, well it is an application used to enhance music experience!

It has 5 options.

-Dynamic Range Compression

(Compresses loud sounds and amplifies quieter sounds for a "balance")

-Bass Boost

(Amplifies Bass sounds (bass guitar, "thumps" lower sounds))

-Equalizer

(Changes the sounds or levels of a song more on this later)

-Loudness Compensation

(Makes the track or sound louder leading to possible distortion)

-Virtual Room 3D effect

(Mimics a "3D" effect (think toy microphone))

Okay so you might be saying. "It depends on what people like" or "These settings are not optimal"

Well not exactly.

I have researched all functions and have become a noobie Audiophile.

These settings aren't my "this sounds good" setting. These are chosen according on how music and headphones work.

These settings work on almost all kinds of songs! Headphones don't matter either it will enhance the headphones!

Now for the settings.

For the first DYNAMIC RANGE COMPRESSION: You want to turn this completely off. And I'll explain why.

This makes the sounds leveled but amplifies or makes the track louder which leads to distortion at high levels. And one REALLY IMPORTANT REASON. Unless you have a 80's or 90's or lower song that is NOT mastered (updated) then this option is bad. All modern songs are already really compressed and most people agree.

Bass Boost:

Leave it at Slight or Medium.

some headphones have little bass and some have a lot.

Equalizer

You want to male them look like stair steps going from left to right.

Loudness compensation:

It is like Dynamic range compression but doesn't change sounds or levels them it just makes it louder...I use Voodoo Sound so its not needed but if you have an HTC or Motorola phone then set it to weak or strong to prevent distortion.

Headphone Virtual Room effect.

This option tries to make the song feel surround soundy, but it just doesn't work for most. It takes some sounds and covers them as all it does it just produce an echo effect so off.

Give feedback!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] benn_seiei:
you're right, when i switch off dynamic range, any disturbance noise wouldn't come out even i turn on bass boost,

thank a lot for advice

:good:
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] BlinqDroid:
Tried viper4android?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] techjunkie702:
On my galaxy tab 7.7 i have a problem i got newton rings at the bottom of the tablet and they are only visible in certain things will that get worse or stay the same
[Xperia Play General] antEris:
Came across this->http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1466245 thread on the x2 forums. It cites that most 3g speed tweaks are aimed at gsm, and suggests a build.prop edit that might improve cdma 3g speeds. Before I go any further, I should say, I have no level of expertise in this, and have no knowledge of what function this line in the build.prop served before or after said modification. Now, with that out of the way. I checked the build.prop on my r800x running cm7 to find the line in question was not even in my build.prop. Perhaps for a reason :) however, as I said ^^^ no knowledge whatsoever in the matter. In any case, I added the line suggested to be edited and changed the value to the suggested value. From my rather breif and unscientific testing, my 3g speeds seem to be faster. Browser, xda app, twitter, and google+ just to name a few seem more responsive when requiring data to load what's being displayed. Keep in mind, my observations are strictly just that, observations. This could all be placebo.

The line is:

persist.ril.uart.flowctrl=1

Its suggested that it can be any number between 1-10. And recommends 10.

I just added it to the bottom of my build.prop. and changed 1 to 10, then rebooted

*Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for ANYTHING you do to YOUR phone*

Well, anyone else feeling adventurous? Moreover if any more knowledgeable folk know what atrocity I just committed, I'd enjoy your entertaining my ignorance with your input :). I'm curious why my build.prop lacked this line. Also, I'd love to know what purpose its actually for. On that note, I'm off to Google.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
I read through the entire thread of replys form the link you found, Seems this does work for some and others didnt notice.

Im def. gonna try it out later , thanks for sharing!
[Xperia Play General] CrimsonKnight13:
I'll try this later as well.
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
I been playin around with it now. I used the recommended 10 and didnt try any other numbers. I used the SpeedTest app and tried to do it in as much of a "controlled environment" as possible.

I first chose one spot in my office at work that id say was the best for service and I held my hand in same position for the entire test of this tweak idea. Then with tweak applied I turned the phone off , waited 30sec, turned on, waited 30sec, Opened Speedtest, made sure my server was the same each time then began speed testing. I ran each test back to back without leaving the app or shutting the screen off, There were about 5 seconds in between each test, only to write down test numbers.

I did (10) tests with and (10) tests without the tweak in build.prop

I attached my results. I highlighted the best score from each set of tests in each catagory. ( someone correct me but isn't a "lower Ping" better? )
[Xperia Play General] antEris:
Lower ping is better, these definitely suggest lower speeds as an outcome of the edit. Weird since I still "feel" like load times are faster. Ah the power of the mind :)
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
Yea the beautiful mind! I thought it felt faster at times but it would seem not :/
[Xperia Play General] paxChristos:
This won't really matter.

Unless your service provider caps speeds on the device, as opposed to on the network (e.g. T-Mobile, with 100mbs of 4g, followed by the network provider limiting your speeds) this really won't make a difference... (as seen by 216monster's results)

On the other hand, what if this number is like golf (lower is better) and deals with power input? Does switching to 10 provide better battery life?

@216 -thank you for testing out every new idea that comes along, whether it's missing your play to try to add an hdmi port out keeping up with cdma uk ROM
[Xperia Play General] 216Monster:
Thank you. I enjoy working on it.
[HTC Sensation] walkinhotdog:
what radio do you at&t users use for best signal/battery life? i know theres few of you, but id like to see some input. im using the recommended radio version for arhd sense 3.0 and its decent
[Motorola Droid X2] bijan588:
I'm stuck.

I cant get into RSD mode cause when I hold vol up it just goes into fastboot.

IF I vol down it just blinks and turns off...

What are my options.
[Motorola Droid X2] KurioHonoo:
Pull the battery then try to boot it normally, after a minute or so it goes into rsd mode
[Motorola Droid X2] Travisdroidx2:
Do you know how to go into android recovery and do a factory reset?
[Motorola Droid X2] bijan588:
Its just sitting at "Failed to boot 1"
[Motorola Droid X2] Travisdroidx2:
Try pulling the battery and put it back in with the phone off plug in your wall charger and see if your recovery comes up
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
What were u trying to do before this happened?

*****Have u tried a fully charged battery?*****
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
failed to boot = sbf time

no big deal
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
U can't sbf if u can't start rsd protocol
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
my bad

wow do we have a real one?

if I remember well it would always say failed to boot 2 and rsd would be available .

Is this a Dx2?
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Apparently he is getting a failed to boot 1 ..I think I remember seeing this before.

It might be in one of the.older sbf tutorial threads...myabe the one by dag425.

It would be helpful (maybe) to know what was being done that caused this to happen.

Hopefully he wasn't messing with bootloader partitions and signatures or something. I think that would he just about the only thing that could hard brick us.
[Motorola Droid X2] Deleted member 4177996:
Could it just be hardware failure?
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
We wont know anything til the OP comes back and give more info on situation
[Motorola Droid X2] LordRalh3:
Going back to the original post... Since when did we hold volume up to get to android recovery??? Pressing up selects the option thats on the screen...

from my X2 roaming the north
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
I'm assuming he meant power+up.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
If u hold power and volume up it takes u directly into "starting RSD protocol "

it is the method I have ALWAYS used when flashing sbf
[Motorola Droid X2] trevsl95:
I am stuck here too! I only have two options:

1: fastboot

or

2: nvflash

I have no idea what the hell eather one does so any little help is greatly appreciated for this noob. Thanks in advance...
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
So I take it yours says "failed to boot 1" also?

Is this Dx2 or mx2?

And you are familiar w/ booting menu: pwr on wait 1/2 (or less) sec then vol down and keep selecting w/ vol dn then vol up to select . Rsd is last.

IDNK WHAT BUT A REAL BRICK!
[Motorola Droid X2] trevsl95:
yeah thats what i used to get to android recovery and rsd protocol and stuff. this time i can only do fastboot and nvflash. i am also stuck at the failed to boot 1 on boot. Also, it will only turn on when connected to pc/wallcharger...thank you for helping as my problem is the exact same as his. any more info needed just ask. i will try to reply quickly and fix this for both of us

Edit: this is dx2
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
trevsl

I don't know how to help but what exactly did you do to get the FTB 1?
[Motorola Droid X2] trevsl95:
was messing with settings in BSR idk what it was:

eather

1. clean boot files or whatever

or

2. partition sd card

i think it was the partition sd card part. cuz after that the option to go back went away...very odd. did a batt pull and then got failed to boot 1. i think im gonna have to take it to vzw and hope the guys an idiot
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
could he do a wipe? or would fastboot help him at all?
[Motorola Droid X2] CadenH:
Well if he could get into recovery he could try wiping/factory reset but even if he could I don't think it would make a difference. I willing to bet it was the clean boot files. It won't load the necessary files to boot because they no longer exist. Hopefully you can find a way to flash them in fast boot or through adb, if not I'm not sure what you can do.
[Motorola Droid X2] trevsl95:
ok so if i was able to get into fastboot and flash the boot files how would i do it?

EDIT: got adb on my computer if that helps idk what i could do with that though
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Have u tried a fully charged battery?

And then press and hold power and.volume up?

That should take u straight to starting rsd protocol

If none.of that works maybe try the "other sbf method" that has been mentioned before here?

Edit::

The fact that it only turns on when plugged in makes me suspicious that the battery may be too low to do anything....prolly gonna have to charge it somehow...know anyone who has a droidx or droidx2 u can throw ya battery in for a while?
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
Or do the wire splice thing.
[Motorola Droid X2] Lorenzo VonMatterhorn:
sbf that mug. ! http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x2-hacks/41697-tool-ezsbf-dx2.html
[Motorola Droid X2] trevsl95:
Ok well i dont think i can do this because i dont have the option for bootloader mode like it said in the vid. i only have fastboot and nvflash

I am going to get a friends x2 at school to charge my batt on tuesday. power + vol up goes to fastboot.

I ran fastboot.exe just to look at what settings it has. the flashall and flashupdate ones look like they will work. does anyone know the files i need to run either one of these?

EDIT: Ok got my batt charged and am in fastboot. i have been searching and saw that i need a boot.img file. cant find it anywhere...could someone tell me where i can get it?
[Motorola Droid X2] trevsl95:
ok so i got my phone back but now my battery has a question mark symbol in it and wont charge...
[Motorola Droid X2] Travisdroidx2:
Good call Ash!
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
try rebooting it
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
Did fast boot help or was it the battery ?
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Have u tried to sbf?

What do u mean by u got ur phone back?

Feed me!!!! I EAT details lol

ANYTHING u might think is relative (or not) to situation put down in onepost and a current "where do you stand " in regards to functions of the.phone will help us very much in diagnosis of the issue and hopefully how to cure it... :)
[Motorola Droid X2] johnaferraro:
If u power up while holding the up volume, it takes u directly to rsd protocol.

Sent from an EpicBlue CM7X2
[Motorola Droid X2] oman14:
Did you ever find something out cuz i have a droid milestone x2 and i tried to downgrade it with this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1317707 and now my phone says "Failed to boot 1" and if i hold up+power it says "Failed to boot 1

PwrReason: PWR_KEY_PRESS

Starting Fastboot protocol support" and if i hold down+power it flashes with failed to boot 1 and something els i cant see cuz it flashes to quick but then goes black and nothing happenes after that

any help plz!!!! i just got this phone a week ago! :(
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
Unwise move. Well pm the op cuz we never got the details on his solution if there was one.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
is it still under warranty?

:evilgrin:

you might be able to get away with an "I have no idea what's happening, I woke up one morning and it was like this" and deny deny deny doing anything to it with a computer at all...

disclaimer: I am not condoning these actions, merely implying a hypothetical theoretical situation
[Motorola Droid X2] oman14:
Thanks but i wanna fix it so i dont have to do an insurance clame and have to pay 150$ again :(
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
Pm the op - starter of this thread.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
if you just got it a week ago wouldn't it still be under WARRANTY?

I'm not saying do an insurance claim

if there is a WARRANTY (usually is if you JUST bought the phone) then you can say it just won't turn on, something failed in the hardware, and presto, new phone

I'm just saying, if it comes down to it and it can't be fixed, call and see if the device is still under warranty.

where did you buy the device??
[Motorola Droid X2] thelowend:
Has it been exactly 7 days since you've gotten the phone? I think the policy expires after 7 days.