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[Desire HD General] azulgrana:
It worked with sense 3.5 so the chances it will happened again is good :).
[Desire HD General] Optemas:
Hmm.. Sense 4.0 Vs ICS 4.0.1 ?

hmm i still don't see the sense 4.0 out looking the ICS 4.0.1 awesome new looks...
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
I wouldnt be shocked if htc did achieve making sense better,look there previous attempts...every sense update has been worth it in some respect,4 will be no different..though hope they sort the battery mod out lol so we dobt uot it so much
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
I actually got pretty good batt life on sense.
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
Sorry lol i mean the battery bar look at the top..all sense has green battery bar on stock
[Desire HD General] tom047:
I think the task switcher sounds pretty average, what are other people's thoughts?
[Desire HD General] :
I think I could use the extra 50gb space on dropbox. Can't wait to flash sense 4.0 on my dhd.
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Shouldn't be long now. Last I've heard was that some folks other then pocketnow got their hands on it.
[Desire HD General] motherninja:
Before the DHD, I'm using the original Desire and then in the next 3 months I changed it to Nexus S i9020. After several months with Nexus S, and trying from variety of AOSP Gingerbread and ICS ROM, I felt kinda of bored with AOSP Android interface. It lacks of built-in good looking widgets and other extra functionality compared to Sense by HTC. So, I sold my Nexus and grab a HTC Desire HD. First day with DHD, I flashed it with the ARHD ROM and then the next day I flashed Sense 3.5 based ROM and yes, this is what I am looking for in Android world.

HTC is going in the right directions with their Sense interface. So, I am waiting very patiently for Sense 4.0 coming to my DHD.
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Patience is the key I guess. 4.0 sounds very promising but until I can actually see it my self it means nothing.
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
First video of sense 4.

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/watch?v=mDPQ6dedias
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
Yeah i cum in my pants...thats my next phone right there,they didnt do away with the green battery icon though lol
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Ahaha, I hear ya. I only wish it was blue..... ish.. :P
[Desire HD General] tobmav:
I'm really glad to see the interface has become far less glossy, just look at the widgets and the buttons in the app drawer on the bottom. It's so much cleaner and mature now. :)
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
In case the first vid isn't working for you guys, here is another link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qgmIC1ESZE

Hell yeah. Looks awesome!
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Wow, the Ville is sexy!

Disappointed in Sense 4.0 though.

1) Looks kinda laggy on the 1.5ghz dual core, 1gb ram device.

What about on our phones? :(

Although this is still in testing phase ....

2) that clock is ugly! I hope the original is still there!

3) that dock is ugly too!! I like the current curved one :(

Tbh, I dont really see dramatic changes...

Apart from the new 3d style and animations.
[Desire HD General] riteshbendre:
Sense 4.0 looks amazing... being an early build... it seems a bit laggy ... but you can expect a smooth running version soon...

:)
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
It's an early beta build. Still lacks a lot of features.
[Desire HD General] Aamir.Badat:
sense 4.0 is good there are some dislikes but hey XDA members will get some custom themes like always so i dont care on how it looks and how it preforms right now on the ville my next device will be HTC edge so im guessing it wont be laggy and custom roms will take care of the lag with all the optimizations.

I am waiting for now my eyes are on the edge but if htc release something better then i will go for that.

Have a good day.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Yeah, I said it was in 'testing phase'.

It must be a very early build, that is also has the HTC watermarks across the UI!
[Desire HD General] :
People that are worrying about slow UI, its early build also the soc on that is an s4 soc normal frequency at 1.5 to 1.7 ghz krait core, the newest ones that have adreno 225 yes 225 performance is better than current devices I think adreno 225 freq is at 400mhz, yup its a s4 soc
[Desire HD General] :
Its an s4 soc
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Yeah snapdragon.
[Desire HD General] :
Adreno225 beats the sgs2 gpu its very powerful running on nenamark at 55fps @ 1024*600 resolution its quite good, lol the resound should've had that gpu put in due to high Res 720p screen
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Couldn't agree more on this..
[Desire HD General] :
By the time this phones out with this soc CPU/gpu Samsung will have a more powerful CPU/gpu it'll beat snapdragon no probz, I think qualcomm needs to improve more quickly, they should already have the s4 quad core not tegra I'm talking about the krait core cuz tegra 3 is already out, Samsung gna bring out another more powerful soc, snapdragon will be behind
[Desire HD General] Nece228:
Samsung chips are more powerful? Are you kidding me? Relying on the stupid benchmarks doesnt prove that its faster.
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
I think personally phones are getting daft ,quad core lol serious...its a phone ffs,gamings hardly amazing lol,for apps dual cores fine...upgrade the features not processor,face unlocks stupid,now fingerprint unlock now thats worth it..upgrade camera yep...theres loads they could do,im going to be content with the ville for a long time i hope,keep the processors for the tabs plus they r making screens bigger lol stop at 4'7 beyond that youll eithet get mugged using it,be obvious using it...or itll break easier..
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
A REAL fp lock would be an awesome feature but sadly it would cost more then the phone it self lol. I agree that improving hadware is not a good idea atm since a dual core can pretty much run whatever you want on it for a long period of time. And about big screens... I remember the time when small phones were on everyones wishlist since no one wanted to carry a brick on their pocket. Just goes to show that it's not the people that dictate their own needs, but rather the market it self controling it.

Sense 4 may look really good with changes to behavior and adding some neat effects, but it's still far behind what users want or need.

On the bright side, I can't wait for that glass phone to be made :P
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
Lol,i dont know man i think the phones are nearly there remoteley controlling your pc from miles away is pretty cool or the xbox etc,creating docs,pdfs,email,blogs social networking,creating music,editing pics videos...,browsing web,downloading files besides itching my ass,its pretty user friendly now lol
[Desire HD General] mattkle:
+1 for that, a step in the right direction, hopefully though HTC will also allow existing phone holders take advantage of this offer.
[Desire HD General] Laatst:
I do fear that it'll only be for a few months or a year max, instead of lifetime.

I'd need 2 years for my phone, haha.
[Desire HD General] monsterr:
I really dont like the animations
[Desire HD General] Wod_Katitten:
By inviting friends you can get a lot free space. My problem, i dont have enough friends ti invite them.

Solution: I installed VirtualBox on my PC and create an virtual Machine.

With this i faked alot of friends and get maximum free space and as student i can double it to nearly 20 gb and this is anough
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
So basically what you are saying is you're a student and you don't have enough friends? ;)

I often read between the lines don't get mad hehe..
[Desire HD General] blueboiiz:
Not sure what to think about the new sense but ill back HTC as each version of sense has been an improvement.
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
I guess in a way it has been. They hit the jackpot with Dropbox integration and 50G should be enough space for everyone (me excluded since I am now running in Terabytes lol).

Other then the not so cool 3d features I've seen it doesn't appear to have been upgraded a lot from 3.6 but it was an early build so I guess we just have to wait and see..
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
Maybe,looks a bit slicker,im sure the xda community will make it look nicer lol,im hoping to keep my dock from 3.5 though...the sense ics dock looks a bit crap. The sense 3 launcher worked on runny so it can happen with different versions
[Desire HD General] 4tifjaved:
I think sense 4.0 would be better if it had the ics app draw
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
Well least it goes the same direction,half way there :-)
[Desire HD General] shba:
not enough added vaule over regular ics now before it was much better. when stock android was trash
[Desire HD General] LowGasPrices:
Looks nice, i'll consider getting the HTC Ville with Sense 4.0!
[Desire HD General] Zeitraffer:
I really don't like this dropbox feature and all the other cloud functions.

Why should I stash my data somewhere else?

I'm able to keep it safely to myself, without some system looking into my files.

I hope it leaks for DHD anyway.

Is there a chance?
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Probably not since its ICS based and there still hasn't been an official ICS release for DHD. Probably won't be at all. Devs from XDA will make it happen however so it doesn't really matter.
[Desire HD General] 555frost555:
Sense 4.0 is awesome!

Waiting for it on my DHD:)
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
You don't have to use the cloud storage feature. At least you have an option to use it if you want to ;)
[Desire HD General] loni90:
Question:

How is ics 4.0.3 running on the DHD running today? All working as it should, or does it have glitches, or some other errors? Smooth, or can it be choppy sometimes?

Please, give me an honest feedback - not "oh its fantastic" or something similar..

Btw.. have you checked the link on my signature? If not, do so - and hit thanks ;)
[Desire HD General] janarp:
i agree with u... but i like dropbox feature coz when u take picture and connect to the internet dropbox automaticly upped it to the dropbox and all my photos is in my PC now... AUTOMATICLY...=)=)

BTW happy valentines day everyone..=)
[Desire HD General] sahhar1993:
Adreno 220 inside the MSM8660 or MSM8260 (1.2 GHz-1.5 GHz+1MB L2 Cache) with single channel memory. It supports OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.3, Direct3D Mobile,DirectX 9.0c, SVGT 1.2, Direct Draw and GDI.88M/Triangles Per Second,2.4Gpixels Per Second.(Standart Clock Speed Up To 266MHz,

Overclock up to 400MHz

)
[Desire HD General] clouds5:
ATM i'm completely 100% happy with Android 2.3.5 on Sense 3.5 Runny rom (see sig).

Its completely smooth, has great battery life (2days with my usage), looks beautiful and is very nice to use with added tweaks and configurable quicksettings.

If i will ever put ICS on my DHD then it will be vanilla ICS or any other good AOSP rom, like CM9. But only if it would be 100% stable with great camera app and all the tweaks added that my current rom has (stuff like lower autobrightness etc).

I think ICS looks great and i really wish HTC would give us an option to use stock ICS if we choose to. At least on their new phones.
[Desire HD General] found.pra:
Its not as smooth as people are pretending it is. Obviously not for all the daily uses ... Camera has glitches, battery drain is high. Some random reboots. Don't have working FM.

Overall ICE Cold sandwich is one project i am closely following and trying there every release, it really good for early releases, but as I said still not a daily customer.

;)
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Stock ICS lags like hell, and while it may be true that every build is getting smoother, it still has its issues. But given the fact folks are working without a source for DHD, it's ok. It's coming along pretty good.

As for Sense 4.0, the One V RUU should be a good base for DHD, but then again, being a new phone with hardware changes, I wouldn't expect much.
[Desire HD General] araisikewai:
Well, the only hardware changes between One V and DHD that I know of is their camera, One V only has 5MPix instead of DHD 8MPix camera. That can be fixed with porting camera apps out of One S instead. But I'm not quite sure about their new low-light sensor, is it a hardware sensor, or just software like how a pseudo HDR might behave? Same goes with One X/S camera quick snap. Is it just software fix or if it ties directly to the hardware?

And of course the One line has 3 hardware button instead of DHD's 4.

All the others from One V shouldn't pose much problem for porting.

Edit: Bad news guys... there's no way anyone can port Sense 4 from One V because One V got Sense 3.6 instead... T__T

Source: http://androidandme.com/2012/03/new...mple-philosophy-with-sense-4-and-new-devices/
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-v/#specs

Somehow I tend to believe the official specs then some speculation out there. Besides, I've seen it running Sense 4.
[Desire HD General] araisikewai:
Well thanks for the clarification, got buried by all the media frenzy makes me forgot to check the most logical sources, engadget and CNET has been saying it's going to be sense 4 as well, so... it's my bad...

Anyhow, I think the only main problem for porting Sense 4 to DHD is going to be the camera, sources says that HTC is using a separate image processing chip for camera sensor, so that makes it a hardware enhancement instead of software enhancement ala beats audio. Well we just have to see for ourself when the ROM starts to trickle out of the devs... :)
[Desire HD General] techjunkiereviews:
I prefer stock

It looks nice but I really do prefer stock android.
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Camera does use a separate chip in One X/S. Not in the V model. One V is very close to DHD in specs, obviously newer hardware, but very similar. One V however does not have the 3D rosie effects and many other things have been made light for it to function.

As for stock ICS, I consider it very ugly but very functional too. Stock Android has never been fun to begin with, but on the other hand Sense has been too bloated and cluttered, not very functional. Seems like HTC has gone to a very minimalistic style with Sense 4.

Obviously porting to DHD will take a lot of effort and skill.
[Desire HD General] DeltaHF:
Just see the vid and think that the recent apps wich also a task killer is great ! The feature i love of this is the swip up to close :)
[Desire HD General] karthics4:
Just updated to sense 4.0 via OTA update from provider
[Desire HD General] Nik0la:
I'm not so sure that that's Sense 4.0, go to settings -> about -> software information
[Desire HD General] mr1029x:
I'm pretty sure that's sense 3.0
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
It is... I dunno what this guy is trying to prove. Hew posted a similiar post saying he got android 3.0, and we told him it wasnt...
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Yeah you updated your wallpaper. That's awesome..
[Desire HD General] bbawden:
Haha! !!!!
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
New One V port today from RUU!!
[Desire HD General] Sany789:
Just testing now the Sense 4.0 Rom for DHD.

Just an amazing Rom, if the Wifi would work i would have now a new Rom!
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
I think someone gave a pretty solid tutorial on fixing the wifi for Sense 4. Shouldn't be long now.
[Desire HD General] Nagelzz:
Are you sure its 50gb? I recall seeing a massive screen at MWC saying 25gb?
[Desire HD General] miosine:
Is there any videos with sense 4.0A??? The difference will be visible on videos...
[Desire HD General] klkoklam:
I Hope There 'll Be Sense 4 ( Not 4.0A ) Rom Soon :p
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
4A and 4 are really different in just couple of things, but bigger ones. No 3D effect, ultra smooth rosie, which is what makes it so friggin fast on our DHD, thanx to @hamdir. Please make sure you find any of his posts or his thread about ultra smooth rosie and hit thanx.

4A, as far as I can tell was actually built on Sense 2.1, and they just built around it.
[Desire HD General] Hunt3r.j2:
Sense is honestly one of the few UIs that I approve of, it's quite literally the only UI customization where you could conceivably spend much of your time never leaving the launcher.
[Desire HD General] kirelam:
Bluetooth HID

I really hope they integrate a new bluetooth HID stack this time. This because the one in the original Desire hd firmware doesn't support Bluetooth HID.

Keyboard's etc through bluetooth aren't recognized correct and don't work at the moment.
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
mate i don't think there is much difference between 4A and 4, the 3d effect inside the drawer gone and no animation for opening folder stuff like that plus the added features of the One X ofcourse, thanks for your comments on ultra rosie

both 4A and 4 have the new faster form of ultra rosie, i love how quick n smooth the ui is, best bit how smoothly and quickly it unlocks, it took a while but HTC finally learned

by the way anyone noticed how much better the colors are on the DHD, they tweaked the LCD values even better

the battery icon has a charging animation, and finally they got rid of the stupid airplane mode icon with engines lol

Less is more, the first thing you learn in graphics design, it took a while for HTC to get it :D
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
Yes! That was it thanx hamdir. I kept thinking what is it that's making my DHD look different somehow and it was the friggin color tweaks. No doubt the One X display simply rocks.

And yeah, The Primo Sense version is quite nice too, but it's missing the key parts which I actually like very much about Sense and those are the 3D effects. Of course I love how they just made it very clean and simple so it's kinda hard to chose between full 4 and this liter version but yeah, like you said, HTC finally learned...
[Desire HD General] djolebih:
OP edited with video reviews of the Sense 4 devices (One X/S/V) to give you the idea about differences between the lite version and full.
[Desire HD General] Rawrden:
I never really liked htc sense, however this is such an improvement so I am highly considering using it
[LG Optimus 2x] hellraiser:
Need rom kitchen with tutorial for lg 2x, can any rom developer help me, to build my custom rom.
[LG Optimus 2x] scrm3r:
I'm interested too.
[LG Optimus 2x] feav:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=633246
[LG Optimus 2x] strollaco:
You can use the MoDaCo Kitchen but it isn't free, I paid $9. It's a easy and quickly form of cook a rom.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WalkingTaco:
I know the lack of HBO Go support has been mentioned on here but is anyone aware of any attempts to make it work or is there a known workaround for this. Would really love it for work breaks. I've bled Netflix dry

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iflip:
I'm looking for cheap offbrand charger as a backup but wanna make sure the charging time is close to the factory version.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nl3142:
As long as it is at least 500mah you will be fine. With modern phones the phone controls the charging rate so even if you get a 5 amp adapter it won't hurt anything (as long as the voltage is right, of course) as the phone will only pull what it needs.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
i tried to enter flash mode or fastboot mode but nothing happened,it just continue booting normaly

i dont know what to do

green led or blue led are gone

a Video here :

http://youtu.be/mM8wTDuzBPk

please help me

(Solved see the last page)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] desire91:
flash it using flastool or wotan client
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
how can i use flashtool if i cant go into flash mode

the light never turns green
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] androidsl:
How do you try to get enter flash mode?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gourcuff:
Have you prepared the driver completely?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
turn off the phone

then vol-

then i but the usb cable

nothing happend and continue to charging mode and a photo of battery

i'v flashed my phone serveral times and using flashtool normaly

so i know whats im doing and doing it in the right way

so any help please

and sorry for my english
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
also i'm not able to enter fastboot mode any more
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] androidsl:
Hmmm. Sorry. No idea !!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] prince.raja:
Did you install the USB drivers from wotan before starting the wotan

client...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
i dont have wotan client

or wotan servers

i use PC Companion & SEUS

any idea of this strange problem
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
i'v searched google and seriously nothing help full

any idea from developers
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] vood007:
Try Volume UP (vol+)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
i'v tried every thing

no action at all

this happened after i press repair TA in octopus_se_1.0.9

after that i couldn't go into flash or fastboot mode any more

any help
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Snoopo:
power off, remove battery, wait 30s, put in battery, start seus, prepare everything, then plug in device as requested in seus (while plugin cable, hold vol- ).

does that work?

otherwise try another PC and do the same.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Rieken Yuki:
whether the vol up and down works fine when you listen to music? just a test to work the upper and lower vol
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
thanks for reply

i'v tried all this and nothing

and tried other pc with different OS and the same

i hope another solution about this freaking problem
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
they work fine when listen to music
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Rieken Yuki:
drivers already installed?

if it is, you've tried to use usb apart from you? maybe the problem is on your usb
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
i think my usb cable is fine

i can charge with it and mount storage

it doesn't go into flash mode so the problem has never to do with drivers
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] piotrasss87:
whats happen if you just connect your phone to computer?Does it work normally?If yes you mast have correct drivers allredy installed and you must doing something wrong trying get in fastboot mode.Once again take out battery for 30sec. put it back and keep your device off.Press and hold volume UP and connect it to usb.Volume down do not get you in fastboot.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ZervZ:
I think you need to start from flash a stock rom to your device. (I prefer .58)

May be by a flashtool?

Then I think you can use a Fastboot from now on.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
i did this correctly and no benefit to make it work agine

i'm useless

any idea to reset but buttons functionality
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] piotrasss87:
Reflash the software and try again.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Androxyde:
I think that when you did actions with TA, you broke some functionalities from your phone. Entering into flashmode or fastboot mode is not a matter or drivers.

Did you try the fastboot toolbox from flashtool ? When you press the flash button it will ask you if you want to use fastboot or flashmode.

From fastboot toolbox you can try Reboot into fastboot mode (via ADB) and see if it works.

Otherwise, I think your only solution is a repair using something like setool2 or something similar. Or a service repair in a shop.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ramezzidane:
good for you ....i forgot it

i tried it and it worked

but still cant go in flash mode or fastboot mode in the normal way we used to do

any other solution......?