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[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
you're assuming that sense is a 8 cylinder engine and aosp is a 4 cylinder engine. In terms of cars you have the choice of getting a regular mustang which looks the same, can get all the same interior features of the car, but with a different engine...this is not possible with phones...analogy is not the same...I'm not saying I hate or like sense, as I've said before there are parts I like and parts I don't like...but trying to create a compelling argument.

If I wanted an AOSP device on T-mobile, my only choice would be a G2X. I'd rather get the better phone and sacrifice things I don't like about sense than get a older crappy phone like the G2X...all I'm saying is that options are very limited when it comes to AOSP. you cannot make the same analogy for cars.

I myself don't like sense, touchwiz, nor the True AOSP. In my personal opinion, there are a lot of things about sense UI that slow the phone down and also drain the battery, the interface however looks great and has many neat features. Touchwiz is a piece of crap but it is lighter so it doesn't bog down the system as much. I was using CM for the longest time and was very happy. I am not a big fan of True AOSP either, I actually like a modified and more customizable yet light, version of AOSP. In my opinion this is why CM has been so successful. I'm sure xboarder's release will be amazing and make a lot of people happy on this forum. everyone has personal preferences and it's is not fair to say they should have gotten a different phone, since there are no other options...believe me after my nexus one, the nexus s pissed me off, cause it was not a big upgrade...and I waited another year for the next nexus, galaxy nexus, which also didn't impress me. I knew I wanted a good camera on my phone, fast, a better screen, and as you know at first I went with samsung galaxy s II, but hated everything about it. I can happily live with my phone with a 3rd party launcher lockscreen and dialer for the next two years...so I'm not complaining at all.

I understand when people come and complain when the AOSP from xboarder is going to be released, it get's frustrating. But I don't regret this is the decision I made based on the availabe phones on the market and I'm not one bit unhappy about it...doesn't mean I wouldn't be happier with a different rom that is more AOSP like, that is why we have XDA right? so we can have options in terms of roms, kernels, and more control of how we like to customize our phones. That is why we unlocked it and possibly voided warranty.
[HTC Amaze 4G] NRGZ28:
I think a better analogy is... why would you buy a shelby mustang, only to put a ford fiesta body on it ? Yes, it'll be fast as hell, but it sure won't look like it :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
looks is a matter of opinion , besides I usually run 3rd party launchers anyways...with 3rd party lockscreens and 3rd party dialers!!! I just don't like a lot of sense stuff bogging down my system...although this is easily taken care of in Titanium backup, i usually freeze stuff...like i said its not a biggie...everyone has their own preference...I'd rather run 3rd party things on a lighter system, Sense has some great features for me and some that I care not about...again personal preference...I get it you guys are big sense fans :), I guess what I'm trying to get at atleast for me I wish I was a developer myself and could make a rom to my own liking lol...things I want from sense and things I don't want...and I'm sure its not as easy as i just described it...People come in to the office and ask to put gold crowns on their perfectly healthy teeth!!! do I agree with it? NO, its retarded and as a doctor i know it can jeopardize the integrity, lifespan and durability of the tooth...Do I still do this for them? yes, its their choice, and I explain everything to them and make them sign papers and make detailed notes about the situation...ultimately everyone has personal opinions about everything...It's not fair to shoot down people's opinions, just respect them...some people love tattooing their body and having lots of piercings, would I do that? NO. would I become friends with someone like that, absolutely...eh enough ranting...to each their own I guess...
[HTC Amaze 4G] zPacKRat:
Ford kinda did that with the SVO in the early 80's
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
In the auto enthusiast world we call that a "sleeper". Usually it just means a highly modified car that you didn't MAKE look like it is highly modified. Not everyone wants to look like the fast and the furious.. but I think we are getting off topic a bit now.

I kind of understand why someone would want some AOSP goodness.. I replaced the launcher, the dialer, the contacts menu, and I'm happy. Sense is still there, I'll bet you it is still taking up processor, bogging things down, when I don't really like the majority of it. I am all about trying to create a custom look/feel, and AOSP for me would just mean there isn't a lot of extra bling/extras in the background I don't even use.

If I could modify the number of tiles on the stock launcher, theme it and dialer/contacts, change the dock(more buttons), change the screen animations.. then I wouldn't mind the sense part so much ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] brando1995:
Hi, I recently flashed supraROM2 and apparently the rom did not come with a status bar. It is just a blank black space at the top of my screen. Also, clicking menu then notifications does nothing either. I tried wiping data and reflashing but it didnt work. Any ideas?
[HTC EVO 3D] wassti:
verify the md5 of the file on your phone with the md5 provided with on where ever you downloaded it.

If it doesn't match, redownload and reverify the md5 until they match.

That might be it, otherwise, idk.
[HTC EVO 3D] Ckao:
ADW

Trying installing ADW launcher instead of using the stock launcher.
[HTC EVO 3D] aseercte:
Install the older one first then the new one on top of it

sent from my freEVO 3d ya digggg
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
anyone still on cm7, passing on all current ICS roms, and waiting for CM9?

I've been using CM7 since it came out. I flashed virt. quatto just to see what ICS looks like, then went back to CM7.

post here if you are like me!
[HTC Sensation] norazi:
ive been waiting for a stable CM7 on the sensation for over a year now... CM7 alpha10 is pretty close but still not a daily driver.. i dont see a stable CM9 on our phones within the next year.. there are some good AOSP ICS roms though like Virtuous Inquisition which will have to do for now. ever since Samsung hired Cyanogen, you pretty much need a Samsung phone (Galaxy Nexus) for good CM support

the only reason i am using a Sensation right now is because it is the only high end phone (dual core) that supports my $5/mo tzones plan, else I would probably have a Galaxy S2 or the Nexus right now since i much prefer CyanogenMod
[HTC Sensation] poopkeen:
I'm in same situation

several past phones (Desire GSM, Atrix 4G) and current Pyramid are on CM7.1

I use Automatic Backlight feature, it's absent in other ROMs, I like Dialer and Contacts in CM.

Tried multiple ICS ROMs but I am unable to use them. Cannot remove contact's pictures from contact list (I don't use concact pictures at all), no adjustable automatic backlight, Volume rocker Wake and so on.

I do not use Google Account at all, all programs I install manually after flashing ROM. No market app, no Gmail, no GTalk. No Sence.

CM is the best for me
[HTC Sensation] garak:
I have many phones flashed to CM7.1 and tried the alpha 10 for sensation too. But there are many lacks (e.g. reboot when recording video, battery after 10 hours down to 20%) so I went back and waiting for CM9.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
This is my own opinion, I don't believe well even get an alpha build of any kind from kmobs at this point of development even in the next year or two years. I asked him about it an he said he was compiling it at that time.

It tells me a lot by that response from him. That he is a perfectionist that want to do everything by himself an I'm pretty sure that he's gotten help by cm team. And that since he got a GN and amaze he may be too busy to focus on sensation. He said he isn't working on those two but I mean if you had to pick between those two and sensation I might pick them.

The best way to get fixes is by yes providing him log cats towards certain issues but at the same time having the source helps so it can pinpoint the source of the issue in the build.

Many devices have already been merged and I think one or two were made after the sensation was released. Whether its fair or not he has the most updated source for pyramid and we as the people only have nothing but watch and wait
[HTC Sensation] garak:
and we will be slowly insane cause nothing happens. But I've read a few days ago in a post, there are two developers?
[HTC Sensation] nichos:
I'm still on CM7 and it's not looking good for CM9:

https://plus.google.com/113702637309752822154/posts/DkmD4rUQJ66

I know we're not paying him or anything, but why can't he at least give us an update instead of these "mystery" posts?
[HTC Sensation] wrecless:
WOW dude no google account? That sucks because if you had one you could easily edit or delete your contact info by signing into google from your computer. You do know that android is google right? I think you would be much happier with a flip phone.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
I agree. Kmobs is still a kid afterall. Hes in school and needs to focus on college if you ask me. He bought a GN for $500.00 out of pocket despite telling us how great his sensation was running his build of ICS. Even though it is his money, its pretty irresponsible for a college student to do. Needing a new phone is one thing, but wanting something newer to play with is another.

I dont think it will take a year to get CM9 to the sensation, as I feel Kmobs will eventually turn over what he has done to someone else on the CM team and they will finish it for us. All his G+ posts seem to focus on the fun he is having with his GN.

Yea its free, but it would be nice of him to turn over what he has to another respected developer in the spirit of open source and all...If he hasnt got the time for CM9, then maybe someone else does. Keep in mind, CM is thinking about starting a for profit marketplace. It would be good business to get CM9 out for the maximum number of phones if they want the maximum number of customers. The sensation might not be all that popular though...

Maybe someone from the CM team could speak to him about turning over the project?

Matt
[HTC Sensation] cenwesi:
after today I don't think I will go back to cm7 again. I have been running vi all this month and currently on v3.0.0 and it will do until something better comes out.

yes, I do believe knob abandoned our phone and do not expect any release from him. January is almost over and we are left in the dark. The promise I made to myself is never to get a non nexus phone again. I will just wait a little bit to see if they release the 32gig GSM version.
[HTC Sensation] Euler MD:
Just switch to an ICS rom in the meanwhile. I reccomend Virtuous Quadratto.
[HTC Sensation] NotoriousX3:
blurry mms

Im using Virtuous Quattro Alpha3 4.0.3. Any im receiving tiny mms pics. Is their a fix? :confused:
[HTC Sensation] ThatsABigOne:
I am like you! :cool:

I use HyperSensation with Launcher Pro.
[HTC Sensation] dcmtnbkr:
Off Topic. Thread title is "anyone still on cm7, waiting for cm9? passing on all current ICS roms"
[HTC Sensation] webmaster:
I could personally care less about CM9. I am running CM7 now and it works fine. I considered flashing an ICS ROM but they all suck right now. Personally if there was a pure vanilla Android ROM (Gingerbread or ICS) I would run that. If CM9 is the closest I will get to AOSP ICS then I guess I will use that whenever (if??) a stable release ever comes out for the Sensation. To be honest I might even be using a Nexus by that time since development for the Sensation is basically dead.
[HTC Sensation] BiziBB:
I counted seven flavours of Sensation ICS ROMs discussed and most are available somewhere online. Only the kmobs 'official' CM9 seems to be lost this year.

On Rootzwiki I asked if the following list was up to date. Here it is. Some exist and some are not, but all are Sensation-specific ROMs in development or possible development.

Will we get up to TEN 'unique' Sensation ROMs soon?

1. TripNRaver already has released three betas of his AOSP ROM for Sensation, over at Modaco.

2. HTC Leaked ICS ROM. Lots of tuning and updates of the major 'brands' of Sensation ROMs at XDA Sensation Developers forum, for 4.03 ICS and Sense 4.0 leak.

3. Virtuous Quattro (AOSP) ported to Sensation at XDA Developers forum.

4. MIUI developer petitioned to release a Sensation ICS MIUI (250+ votes for it). 新年快樂 !

5. TripNRaVer previously mentioned he could do an ICS MIUI port once the CM9 Sensation ROM was working.

6. TripNRaVer yesterday released his own CM9 beta ROM for Sensation.

7. Cyanogenmod 9 team (Keyan Mobli aka kmobs, others?) may be still developing the CM9 ROM, unless there has been any announcement otherwise. No recent news in 2012, though.

8. ? Anyone have another ROM for Sensation that's not a variant of or based on one of the above?

9. ?

10. ?
[HTC Sensation] Jikstah:
TripNRaver released a beta CM9 over at MoDaCo, fyi.
[HTC Sensation] webmaster:
There are only four "distinct" ICS ROMs available. Trips CM9 leak, the two Virtuous builds, and MAYBE Android Revolution. Everything else is just a themed version of one of the above.
[HTC Sensation] g1user101:
yup still waiting. most ics AOSP roms arent fully stable.
[HTC Sensation] BiziBB:
1. What about Tripnraver's own AOSP builds (3 betas to date). That's not based on the CM9 base, nor a HTC Sense ICS leak.

My understanding is that the AOSP builds are adapted from Google source.

Isn't that AOSP base a distinct ICS ROM? So far, TripNice and Virtuous Quattro as examples.

2. What about a MIUI ICS ROM? How is that based on one of your 'distinct' ROMs?

I suspect that such a ROM would also be based on CM9, would that be correct?

3. Has there been ANY news, any posts, any indication recently from anyone making any more efforts in the CM9 team, re the Sensation being a part of CM9?
[HTC Sensation] garak:
If you want to get some (small) information about the progress of developing in CM9, you can follow Keyan on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs

But this makes not realy happy...
[HTC Sensation] webmaster:
Sure, but those arent even usable ROMs. They are more proof of concept test platforms. When basic functions do not work its not really fair to call that an official ROM.

Correct

The current MIUI is based on CM7, so the new version will probably be based on CM9. However, there is nothing stopping them from using another stable ROM. Your best bet would be to speak to someone working on that platform.

Not that I have been able to find! I am 100% convinced the Sensation is on the "D List" when it comes to development, so dont hold your breath...
[LG Optimus Black] emyller:
I have spent all my day on this until I finally came with a solution for those (many, from what I've seen!) facing the following error while trying to flash KDZ images:

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23:25:50 : !pUpgrade->StartProcessing ... PostMsg STEP_TYPE_ENV_ERROR
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23:25:50 : ¿©±â´Â Retry ºÎºÐÀÔ´Ï´Ù

First of all, just pretend your phone is bricked. Open up the official "LGMobile update" (named "B2CAppSetup") program -- I'm assuming you already have it installed -- then go to Customer Support > Recovery Phone, provide the info it asks you and let it do its job.

This is the same method used to unbrick an Optimus Black, and can be used as well to replace whatever is missing in a stock phone that makes the updater fail. Simple but hidden. Now, just retry the same method you tried before to flash the KDZ on your phone; it should succeed.

Good luck!
[LG Optimus Black] iddpioneer:
Hello I have a LG Optimus 3D Max and your tip does not worked here, the lg app gives an error saying something about phone not supported and directs me to the lg site.

Please help.

Here I have only the LG boot logo and I can enter in "S/W Upgrade .. Please wait while upgrading..." Screen.

What should I do ?

Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] GuestD0827:
I'm running cm7.2 and am trying to get a custom shutdown animation.

I've successfully installed a splash screen and boot animation, but can't figure out for the life of me how to get a shutdown animation. Right now all it shows is a spinner with the text "Rebooting..."

I've tried the method described here:

Boot/Down Animations

but with no luck.

I've also tried putting the png's into /system/media/video/shutdown but that didn't work either.

Anyone have success with this? With my old Fascinate I got it working with cm7. Is it not possible? Thanks!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] klabit87:
I believe u put the downanimation.zip in /system/customize/resources . At least I know that's what I do on skyraider Zeus 1.3. Maybe somebody else can confirm this.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sjpritch25:
That is for sense based rom's only
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] klabit87:
Ok. I have never ran aosp roms very long. Just didn't care for them very much aesthetically.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sjpritch25:
Compared to CM7, MIUI is very pleasing to the eye. I would give that a try too.
[Verizon Droid Charge] hazard209:
Started one of these on nitroglycerine33's eclipse forums, but everyone over there is using eclipse and I'd like to see some variety in setups.

Just curious to see who's running what, so post your setup! You never know who's got something running that may make your Charge run better.

My setup:

ROM: Eclipse v1.2

Kernel: Imnuts PBJ 115, converted to EXT4 filesystem

OC/UV: IO Scheduler - noop, CPU Governor - smartassV2, 1300/-50, 1200/-50, 1000/-50, 800/-100, 400/-100, 200/-125, 100/-150, and changed sleep_ideal_freq to "50000" (50MHz) in init.d to attempt to improve battery.

Other Tweaks: Loopy Smoothness, 50+ build.prop entries, fasterfix, Voodoo Screen Tuner, integrated sys Dalvik into ROM

Feel free to ask questions about my setup and don't forget to post yours!

EDIT: A few people have been asking about the build.prop entries, so here they are. Remember I, nor anyone else, is responsible for what happens to your phone. I don't take credit for any of these. A few were/are experimental from back when I was beta testing V6, KAK, and 3gTC for zeppelinrox, the rest I've picked up around the web. YMMV with the data entries.

#Performance
ENFORCE_PROCESS_LIMIT=false
MAX_SERVICE_INACTIVITY=false
MIN_HIDDEN_APPS=false
MAX_HIDDEN_APPS=false
CONTENT_APP_IDLE_OFFSET=false
EMPTY_APP_IDLE_OFFSET=false
MAX_ACTIVITIES=false
ACTIVITY_INACTIVITY_RESET_TIME=false
MAX_RECENT_TASKS=false
MIN_RECENT_TASKS=false
APP_SWITCH_DELAY_TIME=false
MAX_PROCESSES=false
PROC_START_TIMEOUT=false
CPU_MIN_CHECK_DURATION=false
GC_TIMEOUT=false
SERVICE_TIMEOUT=false
MIN_CRASH_INTERVAL=false
debug.sf.hw=1
video.accelerate.hw=1
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=150
debug.performance.tuning=1
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1

#Data
ro.ril.enable.3g.prefix=0
ro.ril.avoid.pdp.overlap=1
ro.ril.fd.scron.timeout=30
ro.ril.fd.scroff.timeout=10
ro.ril.a52.%s
ro.ril.a53.%s
ro.ril.radio.svn=01
ro.ril.qos.traffic.priority=3
ro.ril.enable.dtm=1
ro.ril.enable.prl.recognition=1
ro.telephony.default_network=0
mobiledata.interfaces=rmnet0,rmnet1,rmnet2
ro.ril.def.agps.mode=2
ro.opengles.version=131072
ro.ril.oem.nosim.ecclist=911,112,113,115,117,999,000,08,118,120,122,110,119,995
ro.ril.emc.mode=2
ro.ril.htcmaskw1.bitmask=4294967295
ro.ril.htcmaskw1=14449
ro.ril.hsupa.category=6
ro.ril.hep=1
net.tcp.buffersize.default=4096,87380,256960,4096, 16384,256960
net.tcp.buffersize.wifi=4096,87380,256960,4096,163 84,256960
net.tcp.buffersize.umts=4096,87380,256960,4096,163 84,256960
net.tcp.buffersize.gprs=4096,87380,256960,4096,163 84,256960
net.tcp.buffersize.edge=4096,87380,256960,4096,163 84,256960

#Battery Life
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=1
pm.sleep_mode=1
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=150

#High Quality .jpeg's
ro.media.enc.jpeg.quality=100

#Phone dials out faster
ro.telephony.call_ring.delay=1000

#Faster Video Streaming
media.stagefright.enable-player=true
media.stagefright.enable-meta=true
media.stagefright.enable-scan=true
media.stagefright.enable-http=true

#Removes Boot Animation (boots faster)
debug.sf.nobootanimation=1
[Verizon Droid Charge] brennanb:
I'm on eclipse 1.2 and pbj 115. How do I get to ext4 on this setup? Or is it built into pbj?
[Verizon Droid Charge] hazard209:
Unfortunately it's not built in but it does allow ext4 partitions. What you have to do is flash imoseyon's 4.0 ep4d kernel, boot, run the voodoo control app and select the convert partition to ext4 option. Reboot again so that it does the conversion and then flash imnuts' 115 PBJ kernel. The reason I heard that imnuts' didn't include voodoo lagfix is because it's slower than vanilla ext4.
[Verizon Droid Charge] brennanb:
Cool thanks! This is the best setup I've had on this phone.
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
I would be curious to learn more of the build.prop entries you've used/use. Also, the integrated sys Dalvik into ROM - I am very interested in learning more of such things.

My setup is sort of boring -

TweakStock v1.NotReleasedYet

PBJ 0115 kernel w/ boot ani support thanks to tonsit on IRC

...yup, the rest is just tweakstock. See - boring.
[Verizon Droid Charge] hazard209:
I'd say simple, not boring. And simple is a good thing. When things get complicated they tend to fail.

As for the build.prop edits, I can pm you the list. Or if enough people want them, I'll just post it. I can't take credit for "discovering" any of them though. Some are experimental ones that zeppelinrox was experimenting with way back when I was doing testing for the V6, KAK, and 3gTC. All the others I've just picked up around the net.

The integrate sys Dalvik into ROM is an option in Titanium Backup Pro which odexes system apps into the ROM for better optimization/performance. I only do this once my phone is setup in a way that I plan on keeping it for a while.

No problem. That's what the forums are for. :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] xdadevnube:
Here is my setup which has very few issues and pretty good battery life.

stock/deodexed EP4D

IMO 4.0 kernel

ICS Fugu

V-6 Supercharger

chaRgED Theme by jsminnis

Scheduler changed to noop

OC'ed or UV'ed with Tegrak Overclock with Interactive X governor

Large quantities of Apps Frozen with TiBu

Killed media scanning with Rescan Media ROOT

SD-cache changed with SD-Booster

Voodoo Sound
[Verizon Droid Charge] jager420:
Eclipse v1.1 w/IMO v4.0..would like to see more power boot options so I can uninstall quickboot

edit:just saw there was an update to fix that..will update to 1.2
[Verizon Droid Charge] blueis300:
Curious what your 50+ build.prop entries are? Is that in addition in whats already done?
[Verizon Droid Charge] hazard209:
They're just a bunch that I've picked up around the web. Some are experimental ones that zeppelinrox was testing a while back. Three or four of them are already in nitro's original build.prop
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
Ah, I see. Turns out I did know what that was, just by the much less technical terminology of "re-odexing". Thanks for the pm also - very informative!
[Verizon Droid Charge] shrike1978:
My setup, crossposted from Eclipse Forums and updated for the new Eclipse release:

ROM: Eclipse 1.2

Kernel: Imnuts PBJ 0115, ETX4 filesystems

IO Scheduler: noop

Governor: smartassV2

OC/UV: 1300/-50, 1200/-50, 1000/-75, 800/-100, 400/-100, 200/-125, 100/-150

Other: Thunderbolt w/ remount script
[Verizon Droid Charge] hazard209:
Ha. I just called it by the option name from TiBu. I'll remember to call it that next time. And no problem, build.prop lines are pretty self-explanatory after you figure out what some of them do but if you need a few of them explained let me know. I'm always looking for more, so if I find something new I'll let you know.
[Verizon Droid Charge] thad2b:
Still waiting for my charge to arrive but I plan to run the Eclipse 1.2 rom and either the pbj or imo's kernal. Not familar with any of the other tweaks ive seen mentioned