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[EVO 4G General] misery in motion:
No argument there. :) If you don't have a good understanding of what you're doing, it's never a good idea to apply an OTA if you're already rooted. That's why I made that post though, so hopefully people can better understand what happens if you do etc. It's not as scary as it all seems.

Better to have the knowledge and information rather than diving in head first into murky waters. I feel it's important for people to have a good understanding of what's going on when they S-OFF and root their phone.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
btw great job man, we have been mentioned and our links are up at goodandevo.net and androidcentral.com 's forums :)
[EVO 4G General] misery in motion:
Sweet! You too man. :) Between the two of us I think we've pretty much got all bases covered, along with all the help from our fellow community members. Many of them contributing in our threads have provided a lot of helpful info.

So thanks to all of you too following and posting in our threads! We really appreciate! It's quite an undertaking we're all participating in.

It's awesome to see all of us EVO lovers cooperating and coming together to support and inform. Great bunch of folks.
[EVO 4G General] Will32:
great thread, thanks guys.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
updated the OP with the links to the posts for the extracted kernel and radios.
[EVO 4G General] Azzy50:
Has anyone tried just the OTA kernel to see if it's a improvement?
[EVO 4G General] sameog:
re: latest EVO OTA

brad560 is right and I will echo his "plea." for those that DO have root, don't accept the latest OTA. Exercise patience and wait for the devs to publish a rooted OTA.

Impatience will only get you a non-rooted phone. Also, devs hate it when asked for ETA -- give them a minute.

In closing, to all the devs out there working hard, I thank you! without you, I wouldn't have a rooted EVO, let alone the immense info you all have published.

Again , thanks to brad560 and the rest of the hard-working devs out there. =)
[EVO 4G General] illogos:
I wanted to echo what you and other have stated.

However, on the silver lining side of things if anyone lost S-OFF from the OTA, the bootloader update has the required modifications needed by HTC to put the EVO 4G on the supported devices list for the Bootloader unlock tool on their Dev site(The magenta message in HBOOT saying Bootloader Locked (oow)). So, hopefully without too much of a delay they will let you unlock without the need for updated revolutionary tool.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
Good point!
[EVO 4G General] lavarea4:
Too bad posts like these couldn't be automated with each OTA release. Nice work.
[EVO 4G General] bman3333:
About 15 min after posting it downloaded fine. All works great. Nice work Brad.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
Glad it worked out!
[EVO 4G General] pmacevad:
Okay, so I'm understanding correctly...

Accepting an OTA will cause you to lose root and custom recovery but not NAND s-off. NAND s-off if what is required to flash custom recovery, roms, kernels, etc.

So.....

If one accepted an OTA one would lose root (because you would be basically accepting a unrooted sprint stock ROM) and lose custom recovery (because an OTA will replace it with a stock one). All one would then have to do is reflash a custom recovery and then a custom rooted ROM to regain root access. Am I understanding this correctly? Do OTA's affect s-off at all or have they ever? I have only had my Evo for a few months and my knowledge is limited. Just trying to learn more. Thanks for all the info in this post. It has been very insightful and I'm learning much. :thumbup:

Sent from my Modded Classic Evo... It's easier this way. :D
[EVO 4G General] jdavid4it:
Thanks a lot brad560!

Your tips and recommendations helped me get my htc rooted and working the new OTA release perfectly! :)
[EVO 4G General] misery in motion:
You're understanding in correct. OTA's do not cause the loss of S-OFF. They have not since unrevoked3/unrevoked forever & revolutionary. As a side note, unrevoked allows HBoot upgrades, revolutionary does not. This is because revolutionary causes hboot to report version 6.##, and so an ota will be fooled into not updating because there is a "newer" version already installed. Unrevoked doesn't cause this and reports the proper version number. Unrevoked and revolutionary use different methods to obtain S-OFF. Unrevoked does it through the NV, revolutionary through the hboot. With unrevoked you can still update your NV without issue though, as I have done so several times and never lost S-OFF.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
added more news/info to the OP
[EVO 4G General] pmacevad:
I believe I read that revolutionary replaces hboot with its own custom hboot, this is why the "newer" 6.## hboot would be reported right? I did not use the revolutionary method when rooting my Evo, I used unrevoked 3 (I believe, I'd have to get on the computer to look at the file to be completely sure). If I read right and am still understanding correctly, unrevoked (3 or revolutionary) unlock the NAND (obtain s-off) through the NV, thus leaving the unlocked original hboot, right? This is interesting stuff to me, sorry if it is "noobish," just trying to put things together and understand this process better and what is actually going on with it. Tia.

Sent from my Modded Classic Evo... It's easier this way. :D
[EVO 4G General] misery in motion:
You've got it. :)
[EVO 4G General] aurgerman:
Thanks for the info.
[EVO 4G General] teh roxxorz:
Correct:

Unrevoked: Through NV, leaves the current hboot you were on

Revolutionary: Through hboot, modifies to the 6.x.x hboot
[EVO 4G General] bman3333:
I have been using the odexed version for the last 24 hours and it is running great! I have no miss or custom themes so odexed was the right one for me. Battery life has been much better than my previous ROM, team nocturnal's stock. I'd say the HTC engineers did something right in the kernel.
[EVO 4G General] wmillea:
Great thread guys. This is why I've been on xda for years and have less than 20 posts. All the answers are out here if you spend some time to do a search.

I have to admit though, I've learned more from those who are trying to fix their disasters. That's when all the good explanations come out.

I don't want to show my age, but doesn't anyone use DOS anymore?
[EVO 4G General] KaptainRandom:
Why did so many s-off evo's go to s-on with the gingerbread OTA?
[EVO 4G General] tropicalbrit:
This is my thoughts on the new HBoot, anybody correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm guessing that with HTC's unlock method, it'll be like every other phone. That we cannot flash radios, recoveries, or splash screens in custom PC36IMG.zip or boot.img through recovery (meaning kernels and ROMs with custom kernels).

Which means people will HTC-unlocked bootloaders will have to flash the kernel through recovery or boot recovery.img through fastboot. (You could use Flash Image GUI but I'm not up to trusting an app to do it)
[EVO 4G General] jmboulware:
Attention unrooted people who are kinda sorta thinking about maybe one day looking into researching the possibility of rooting, do us all a favor:

SETTINGS> PHONE UPDATES>HTC SOFTWARE UPDATE> "uncheck" scheduled check!

Update does not necessarily mean "improvement"

JB
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
i don't remember exactly, this was before revolutionary, when htc updated the bootloader in that specific build to gingerbread it caused holy havoc. Must have been changes to nand that reversed any changes unrevoked made?
[EVO 4G General] OneoftheRabble:
Thank you for this post! As an "Uber-Noob" even I could understand it and follow along nicely.

I've actually been rooted a bit over a year and been playing with different Kernals and ROMS.

Heck... I am so old I remember Altairs, CPM and such. I was an "old hand" when MS-DOS 1.0 was released! ( read: Really Olde Pharte )

Thanks again for a very informative post. Keep up the good work!
[EVO 4G General] wmillea:
LOL, and they call us noobs!
[EVO 4G General] Neipas09:
The link for the updated kernel and radios point to the same post.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought a kernel and radio update would be TWO separate downloads?
[EVO 4G General] shortydoggg:
Some just had the ENG bootloader and did not use unrevoked-forever. It is easily turned S-ON by flashing another Hboot.
[EVO 4G General] dgotgame816:
I am Glad I AM still S-off I updated my phone back to 4.54 then updated my EVO4G to 2.3.5 Build number to 4.67 no Problems and I can Access Recovery Still with Using Revolutionary H-boot 6.16 still with current superuser but i may not root the phone again i get my new phone but If you are S-off Root will still Work I cant Speak for ppl who are S-On who accepted the Update.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
Should be two seperate posts same thread? I'll check it out
[EVO 4G General] Neipas09:
Nope, both links go to post# 3214

Which is for the kernel
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
should be fixed now
[EVO 4G General] tempe38:
I believe they were unrooting and going to s-on in order to run the update, maybe didn't realize you didn't have to.
[EVO 4G General] jcwxguy:
DOS....whats that?? J.K.. i use Dos occasionally. 100% agree with you, xda is great, and most answers are out there.

brad560 thanks for posting this thread :)

tempe38 is probably correct, some people may have gone to s-on for the update.. but when rooted, never ever accept an ota until a way to root it has been discovered.
[EVO 4G General] tempe38:
I think it also depends on how you've rooted. I did Unrevoked Forever back on froyo and have run every OTA since. Just have to have Amon Ra for the updates to work, then reload Amon Ra and Superuser afterwards.
[EVO 4G General] intrlude:
You are correct. Also, although the EVO is not officially supported by HTCDEV unlock method, I was able to accomplish an unlocked bootloader on an EVO with the new HBOOT 2.18. At the drop down menu on the Unlock Bootloader page I chose "All Supported Devices", worked just fine.

Sent with L*W*H.
[EVO 4G General] fitz420:
Does anyone know if the ota, especially the new kernel, has fixed the issue with taking pictures in a dark room. On a froyo rom or an aosp rom you can take a perfectly normal pic in a dark room. After the initial gingerbread update to our phones, taking a pic in a dark room results in a dark picture, often completely black.
[EVO 4G General] Neipas09:
Nvm, i found the post with the radio only links

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21650840&postcount=3202

please update OP
[EVO 4G General] perveeus:
Applied this OTA update to my stock - NON-Rooted EVO today.

Appears the Sense Reboot bug has been eradicated?

Have tested coming from FaceBook app & browser pages with no Sense Reboot.

Can any1 confirm ?

Have not had a chance to test on camera bug yet (torch mode & lockup).
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
Thanks will update when I get home
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Actually DOS no longer exists it was replaced by CMD a similar but different program, DOS automatically allowed administrator permission(Microsofts version of root) CMD requires password protected access to admin which was a security add-on when the programs name changes there were other small changes as well but so many and not things the average user would understand so I'm not going to include them here just a little info on what program you actually use to avoid confusion, some oldschoolers might be like why the hell u on DOS that's like running windows 3.x lol

Edit: one thing I will add about the difference between DOS and CMD, CMD allows single line input access to commands DOS used to require multiple inputs to achieve
[EVO 4G General] tempe38:
Heh, beautifully embarrassing red-face moment earlier. When this came out I flashed back to my rooted OEM backup so I could run the OTA. I did, restored Amon Ra, new nandroid of OEM and flashed back to MIUI. Noticed MIUI was still showing me on the 08.08 baseband. Figured there must be something in MIUI that sets it back, so I just reloaded the OEM setup. Been scratching my head ever since and reading around trying to figure out if I could just flash the radios in MIUI. Stumbled into my About Phone setting and realized that the OEM back up I had was old enough that the OTA I ran only upgraded to 4.54. Oops. Checked for updates and sure enough, there was another OTA to run. Boy, did I feel dumb. Ran it all again and now I really am updated. :D
[EVO 4G General] wmillea:
Yea, yea we know. We're saying we're old(ish), not out of the game. :-)

Speaking for myself, I can't stay up all night working this stuff out anymore. Now I depend on you kids on xda to get the job done.

So let's get back on topic and ... EVERYBODY BACK TO WORK! :-)
[EVO 4G General] Adam1422:
Just posted over in Q&A...

but does anyone know if the new kernel supports HDMI mirroring? SBC(I know its a long shot but figured I'd ask)? Thanks in Advance!
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Lol I'm not a kid I grew up on DOS in the 80s bro I know a lot of ppl just confuse CMD with DOS not realizing it is an entirely different program and not just a renamed update :-) mostly the noobs make this mistake or ppl who have been around computers along time but aren't really computer literate like this doofus I work for that thinks windows is windows why does he need 7 when xp still works, just throwing out a lil info for some who may see this and go looking for the mythical DOS and be cornfuzzled why they can't find it

Edit: trying to prevent 100 new posts titled:HELP can't find DOS :-/ and u know it would happen with these help happy noobs that want everything handed to em like they're at a restraunt
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
I do need to say thanks to you Brad for starting this thread to cut down on some of the repeated questions on here sometimes I have to bite my fingers to keep from getting banned for some of the stuff I want to say to these ppl that don't know what the hell search is *rolls eyes* I actually went thru rooting and Modding 6 phones before I ever signed up to xda and since I've signed up I've mostly posted themes mods or answers I don't even remember asking any questions about anything phone related except I asked evo4gnoob if he knew anything about car-o-dopes tweaks cuz I use v6 and was looking for user experience and not actually help lol, my Google-Fu be black belt rated I don't need me a searchsitter
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Whoops xda had a delay made me think I clicked discard instead of submit derp
[EVO 4G General] wmillea:
Ok, point taken, good info. But, I do have to argue one thing you said. You are a couple of years older than my oldest. My kid sister is 10th years your elder. From my perspective, you are a kid. :-)

It's all relative you know.
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Lol yea I suppose but being close to thirty and having 2 kids of my own I'm no longer much of a kid lol that and this damn grey hair :-/

Edit: most ppl can't guess my age face to face they are always way off if I shave they say 19-21 if I have my beard they guess 40s lol ill be 29 in a cpl months :-/ I never know whether to be offended or not when ppl call me younger or older
[EVO 4G General] wmillea:
My mother still calls me a big kid.

Be a man, be the adult, but don't ever ever stop being a kid. That goes for all of you out there.

God bless you all. Your good "kids".

Now get back to work! I need a hdmi solution for slingplayer in about two weeks.
[EVO 4G General] jokeyvong:
I love this new update, running 48 hours without charge yet. made a few phone calls still playing games use alot of wifi, This is so awesome.
[EVO 4G General] roids87:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you could flash the freedom kernel by lithid-cm. I'm pretty sure that has the hdmWiN code in it. I haven't used sense in about a year so...
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
There are several HDMI enabled gingersense kernels freedom,chopsuey and if I'm not mistaken poonsense, plus the all elusive anthrax if you can find it
[EVO 4G General] wmillea:
From what I've read so far freedom kernel may be the way to go. Thanks for the suggestion.
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Both of my parents are the same way but having kids the things I did to be a kid had to be sidelined for a while, can't risk being flattened by an old fart on my bike anymore :-( man how I miss those days trading 2 wheels and no doors for 4 wheels and 5 doors is a major bummer. Now my inner kid only comes out when the.video games fire up kids make my hobbies to expensive or risky unfortunately but now that I got a good paying new job finally maybe ill be able to be a kid again lol, might actually have some money again =P. Back to the topic i might have to give the new ota a.whirl but I'm so stuck on my rom I can't bring myself to change for more.than a few hrs running something you made yourself just has such a pleasing feel to it especially since I haven't had a single.bug in several builds now hopefully soon ill have the time to finish it up enough to release a beta this new job has just taken up.all the free time I had when I was a stay at home dad lol
[EVO 4G General] emjaycee40:
Will the new kernel and rom support hdmi mirror or will i be waiting for hdmwin to update to this kernel.?

Htc EVO 4g _ 4.54 _ HBOOT 2.18.0001 _
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Flash a custom kernel, most of em have the same things the "new" kernel has anyways HTC probably kanged one anyways I dont see em spending too much time developing anything for an EOL device
[EVO 4G General] roids87:
I doubt they "kanged" a kernel. It probably will be a little while before they release the source for the kernel though. Untill then, improvements on their end won't be known.
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
I was being a smartass get an effing sense of humor jeez
[EVO 4G General] fitz420:
So I've been running the new kernel for over a day now. I haven't flashed the new radios yet though.

Gotta say I'm rather impressed. The battery life with this kernel seems every bit as good as both anthrax and freedom. Didn't expect much from a stock kernel. Hope they release the source in a timely manner so our awesome devs can get their hands on it.
[EVO 4G General] wmillea:
Sorry, but I have to ask, "kanged"?:confused: I'm a little lite on the lingo :D
[EVO 4G General] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Borrowed without expressed permission, ripped off, stolen, usually pertaining to software or code :-)

We are legion, for we are many.
[EVO 4G General] Blazin Chaos:
How did you go about flashing the new stock kernel? Is it the same procedure used when you flashed over to Anthrax?
[EVO 4G General] wmillea:
Oh! Kanged! ;)
[EVO 4G General] fitz420:
Yes. Hopefully you're using amonra. Wipe cache and dalvik and flash kernel.
[EVO 4G General] Blazin Chaos:
Yes, I am. I was just wondering if I also have to go through the process of mounting and unmounting the data.
[EVO 4G General] fitz420:
On certain 3.5 roms like warm I beloved u will still have to mount/unmount.
[EVO 4G General] Blazin Chaos:
Ok! Thanks for your input. I may have to give that new kernel a try. I'm using Anthrax currently, but just flashed the updated radios yesterday and now it seems to me that I'm getting a little more battery drain. May be just my imagination, but I'm still going to give it a couple of more days to actually draw a conclusion before I start flashing away.
[EVO 4G General] misery in motion:
If anyone comes across or gets their hands on the RUU EXE please let me know, post a link, PM me, etc. etc. I've been unsuccessful in locating it thus far. Just for clarification, I'm looking for the new 4.67 RUU. Thanks.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
football usually has these things pretty close after a OTA, we can always count on him :)
[EVO 4G General] wardriva:
stuck on the latest stock unrooted and without recovery, but found out next: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1463418
[EVO 4G General] chefdementia:
Tried to update this morning, downloaded it fine and then rebooted like it's supposed to. Get up for more coffee and come back to see a little blue android with an exclamation point over it's head. Reboot the phone and all is well back in 3.2.2 bla bla bla bla (more numbers) bla bla bla. My phone is rooted, do i need to un-root it before updating, I used revolutionary.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
DO NOT UNROOT. htc locked down the bootloader again. there is no "easy" way to root again (revolutionary does not work with the ota update) that being said, i have read in some threads some ways to unlock it at htcdev.com.

you can flash the stock, rooted rom i have provided, or wait until your favorite dev cooks up the update to their respective roms.
[EVO 4G General] wardriva:
I'm sorry, but htc unlocked bootloader)

http://attachments.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=871497&d=1327479809

---------- Post added at 04:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:41 PM ----------

this is my latest stock unlocked evo bootloader on the photo. on this page you can find link to my how-to.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
i saw that. i am aware of this method. i feel though the non-newbie 'ness of it, until more devs/flashers try this and report back it may not be one hundred percent an option for everyone. thanks for posting.
[EVO 4G General] wardriva:
i think that it will be officially unlocked in a few days. but i did it first)))
[EVO 4G General] btbamzao:
Thanks for all of the valuable information!
[EVO 4G General] misery in motion:
Well I'm sittin here at work, have some free time on my hands, so I thought I'd report in with regards to battery life. I've had a few days to tinker & test things with the new release with its new kernel.

At the moment I am pretty much running a bone stock 4.67 rooted build with only a few selective things removed. I let my phone charge via USB for 12+ hours to receive a peak charge. I'm currently at about 24 hours on the battery with maybe 2 hours of awake time, and I'm sitting at about 75% charge left.

I've had 3G off nearly the entire time, but connected to WiFi. GPS disabled. Screen brightness set to 40% with auto-adjust off. The only thing auto-syncing is weather, every hour. Not logged in with Google, Facebook, Flickr, Twitter, News, or Stocks through Account Sync Manager.

I'm not killing any apps, letting the OS do it's default auto-startup etc.

The apps I removed are Amazon MP3, Adobe Reader, Blockbuster, Kindle, Nova, the native Facebook app, Swype, and all Sprint apps (basically I removed all 3rd party apps except Adobe Flash, I left that in). Everything else was left intact.

I cooked the rom with root and busybox in, and I zipaligned. Other than that all else is left stock.

I'll report back once I run this charge down with time on battery and awake time.
[EVO 4G General] misery in motion:
Well I finally ran that charge down. Here's some screenshots:

2 days 13 hours may seem exceptionally long, but admittedly that was with very little use. As you can see only 3 hours 21 min of awake time. Still though, battery drain was reasonable. All the awake time was either using the web browser or texting mostly.

All in all, I don't see much difference from 4.54 and it's kernel. I was getting about the same battery life with comparable use.
[EVO 4G General] brad560:
Will update op with the new unlock method from captain and other info this weekend. Thanks all for your input.