yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=10571

They clearly say that a digitizer is a separate piece to the touch screen
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] appelflap:
Yeah, that's how the Note is working. But this seems a whole new technology. See the electronicsweekly article
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
I read that as a reverse of active digitizer

Meaning using an active stylus to achieve the result of an active digitizer capable panel
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] appelflap:
Something like that. I don't know much about electronics but it seems to be a stylus that interacts directly with the capacitive screen and not with a digitizer. Not only as a capacitive stylus (they already support that up to a 2mm thickness - which is pretty thin also, that's why the motorola stylus might work) but also by sending out signals that it is a stylus and not for example a finger. No clue however how they manage to get a 0.25mm precision with this. But it seems that they have found a technology to do that with capacitive technology.

Edit : I saw that the xoom 2 stylus is also active. If the xoom 2 has the same chip, it might get active stylus support after the ics update also. As google is working close together with motorola, this might be the way they gonna unleash the stylus support in ics

Again, I have no clue. Lol
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] appelflap:
Haha same kind of thread in the transformer prime forum http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1446655

Prime also seems to have the amtel e series touchscreen chip
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Chainfire:
Promising stuff, thanks for the info.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] sman55:
You might be interested in this video demonstration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqVmPZcZ5RA

Sman
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] uncle_buckman:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1

Pissed, s-pen support on a tablet. This is what I wanted :(

http://www.itproportal.com/2012/02/26/samsung-galaxy-note-101-tablet-displayed-mwc-2012/
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
I want to get one and try it :-)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] kakahuynh:
I like this Stylus very much. Cant wait to use it with my Tab 7.7. Anybody know price, where to buy and release date of this one...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] toan751215:
I send my request to Atmel and when maXStylus 100 available, they will send me one as sample. I will try it to work or not with my Samsung galaxy tab P6800
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
That sounds like a good idea i should contact them as well, who did you contact?

EDIT: Just contacted someone in the USA hope to hear from them soon.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] FarmBoi:
Did anyone from Atmel get back to you re the maxStylus? I wonder what the status of this product is. I emailed a distributor for Atmel products here in Oz but got no reply. May try again but it all sounds like vapourware at the moment - at least as far as retail availability goes :(

Did they give any indication of when it would be available?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] toan751215:
Sorry, nothing news until now.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ascariss:
Has anyone tested Wacom's bamboo stylus on their 7.7?

I am thinking of buying it tomorrow for mine, hopefully it will work as advertised.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] uncle_buckman:
Have you got a link to to product? I have a wacom tablet with the stylus and replaceable nibs and it doesn't work.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ascariss:
I am referring to this model

http://bamboostylus.wacom.eu/index-EN.html

not the stylus from the bamboo tablets, which is only for the bamboo tablet, the wacom bamboo stylus is for the ipad but it does work on the galaxy tabs but not sure how well, from what I've read not that well, but was at the store today, both shops were sold out on the styluses or styli.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] VortX:
This is a capacitive stylus that will work on all capacitive screens. This is not what this thread is about.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] uncle_buckman:
Fast forward to 08:24 if you want to see a stylus used on the 7.7;

http://youtu.be/TvjtFgfXKKg

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-rev...iewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1301303

http://youtu.be/aLbKTcTljpc

The archictect stylus, looks great

I wish I bought a tablet that can use a stylus (active stylus) now.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ascariss:
Ya but the bamboo one is made specifically for the ipad and on wacom's site it stays it is good only for menu's and navigation.

I did see the video, but I am wondering how it works in PS touch and if its any good, I will be going to a 3rd store to see if they have it, if not I will order one.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] uncle_buckman:
I'm going to take risk and order the architect pen. I hope I don't pay a customs fee...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] FC1032:
FASCINATING :)

I was originally waiting for the Note 10.1, but if this works on the 7.7 I'll get the 7.7 (or transformer prime!)

Having owned the OG P1000, I really like the portability, and since the Note 10.1 doesn't seem to have improved much in terms of hardware, I might as well get the 7.7 with its nicer screen and all :) (or prime to replace my rarely used laptop...)

Hope it works...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Krjal:
FC 1032, I was in the same boat as you but when I heard the note 10.1 was delayed I got the 7.7.

It's the best tablet I've used and the only thing it's really missing is the active stylus.

ICS as well, I guess, but that's coming.

I've just tried the Architect stylus btw. It's just a nice capacitive stylus. Doesn't hold a candle to an active digitiser stylus.

While we wait for news on the Atmel stylus, does anyone know if there's a way of getting a Wacom tablet plugged into an Android slate?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] FC1032:
Hmmmm that might actually be a nice option for wacom if it works.

I was browsing the transformer forums: some say that it supported some not. Hope seems a little... dim. I don't think Amy capacitive stylus will be as accurate as wacom. Or even ntrig.

Hopefully Samsung releases something with wacom soon... that's larger than 7 inch
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ascariss:
Quick update,I bought the wacom stylus and while it works of course it is not as responsive as I imagined and hope that the ICS update will remedy that somewhat since touch response in general on the 7.7 is not the greatest
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] hoss_n2:
Use touch screen tune from market amd you will notice a big difference in accuracy and performance
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ascariss:
I checked the market and don't see it, maybe it was removed or I just can't find it.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] fluffmonster:
Interesting indeed.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] sman55:
search for touchscreentune
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Which wacom stylus is working? Can you please post a link?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] FC1032:
Think he meant the general capacitive stylus:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/wacom-announces-capacitive-stylus-to-replace-puny-human-fingers/
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Oh well that sucks!! F that $!!!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] uncle_buckman:
I received the Architect Stylus today and it works pretty well. I've only tried it on the pen memo app mind
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] uncle_buckman:
I better look into rooting my device now...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] FC1032:
Please do :-) in the mean time anyone with touch screen time want to comment on how well a stylus works?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Manipur:
Got my Adonit jot pro today. It works like butter. Even better with touch screen tune installed. I'm currently using Supernote and Tab Notes pro as my main handwriting apps.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Manipur:
Got my Adonit jot pro today. It works like butter. Even better with touch screen tune installed. I'm currently using Supernote and Tab Notes pro a my main handwriting apps.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] onepoint:
Any thoughts on how ICS (with its native stylus support) may affect things? I've read rumors of possible S-Pen support however I haven't been able to confirm whether the necessary digitizer is present, etc.

Just a thought!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
I would like to know or if the amtel maxstylus will work with our tab. There is a video demostrating it working on whar seems to be a 10.1 tab and it is supposed to work with 4.0, so just hoping for update from them.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] aletheus:
There was talk of this on another thread. When the p6800 was announced but before its release. God, would that be amazing....---and another 200-300$ on the price....
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
Is there a setting we need to change to activate stylus support in ICS or is it automatic thing or we just need to wait for an appropriate stylus, maybe the Amtel Maxstylus Mxts100
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] aletheus:
We need to prove the tablet has a wacom digitizer first. Lemme dig a little.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] vegaman:
It doesn't have a Wacom Digitizer. It does however use an Atmel maXTouch touchscreen controller, so it may be compatible with the maXStylus... if it ever gets released.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
All we need to know is when the Amtel Maxstylus will be released. Amtel wont have an answer, even though they are ones making it.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] aletheus:
Is the amtel stylus pressure sensitive?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
I am not sure, there is a video demonstration with it working with what looks like a galaxy tab 10.1, so if it works with that i would think it can work with our tab.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mea9H-P2AQQ

And actually the name of the company is Atmel not Amtel, my appologies. Lol
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] aletheus:
Atmel says the maxstylus is pressure sensitive.

On another note: someone somewhere was saying (wish I could find the post....) that you should be able to install wacomlinux drivers and use a graphire or intuos with bluetooth capabilities. I have NO idea how to extend linux middleware or software on android. Researching now....
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] aletheus:
Here we go:

http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-1591872.html
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Entropy512:
It is most definitely not the same as the Note. Galaxy Note units have two digitizers - Atmel for touch, Wacom for stylus.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] aletheus:
Yes, but now we're wondering if the elusive maxStylus will be released any time soon.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] aletheus:
Just called the regional sales office for atmel. They are in beta testing phase now and are working on including support for our tablet! No word on release date of course, but it looks like it's in the works!!!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] appelflap:
That would be great.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
SWEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ascariss:
Sorry to resurrect a thread but now that I upgraded the the official ICS firmware I was curious to see if the touchscreen response to the bamboo stylus has changed or not.

And the good news is that it has improved, but quite a lot. Sure there is lag on the screen but the response is excellent and now using the tab to sketch on it is possible and actually a nice experience.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] fastest:
Is this a capacitive bamboo stylus?

Cheers

Sent from my GT-P6810
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ascariss:
Yes it is

http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Bamboo/BambooStylus.aspx

I have the solo one, not seen the duo before, so must be new. Oh the duo is just a regular pen and a stylus in one, ha.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
Still waiting for Atmel to release their Maxstylus Mxts100. They taking their sweet time. :(
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ShyPod:
Any news about this?

Just bought a Wacom Stylus Solo on ebay for 20$ while I'm waiting for the maxStylus :)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] aletheus:
awww, you should have gotten an ifaraday stylus! I returned my wacom POS cus I kept tearing the rubber....

http://ifaraday.com
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ShyPod:
That ifaraday looked really nice, if my wacom turns out to be a POS I'll order one :)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] kawasaki9r:
Xoom 2 Stylus review

I have this pen and tested it. I know it is a while since you posted, but if interested, check out my youtube review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rT4OgWRato
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] 006fazer:
Hi,

Nvidia has just release binary and tools to build ICS ROM for Tegar2 plateforme...

http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources

Bye
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] dipje:
looks like (a lot of) the stuff needed to get our own built AOSP image running properly on the TF101.

Who knows, we might see a proper ICS rom before Asus releases their own :).
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] premler:
I cant wait to see a ics-rom on my TF101!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Ep3n3wp:
Ohhhh... Nice.... I'm new around here does the transformer have a dev that build aosp roms from source (not kanged)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] JaiaV:
That page has been around forever and doesn't have what is necessary to get AOSP on pretty much anything.

There's been a few accounts posting that all around the same time frame the last few days all over the Tegra based device forums.....hmmmmmm.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] sert00:
thanks for this!reading ics 3ad it seems that it isn't so usefull...(http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21768082&postcount=361)what are you think about that?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] daoist:
They posted an ICS device image for ventana. We can pull the required binaries from there as a starting point rather than trying to get ICS to work with the binaries pulled from honeycomb.

I'm downloading it now.

Thanks for the post!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] paulburton:
...we already have binaries that work with ICS, I've had builds in the public with working (and very smooth) graphics for weeks. If these ones are comparable then it'll be a nice source to pull them from, build a ROM without having to pull from a device etc. but they don't make anything any easier as you suggest.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] dipje:
But isn't there a new kernel in there or something to help with the (deep) sleep problems? Or is the reference board too diferent from our TF101 board?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] daoist:
It's all quite helpful. Cribbing stuff from a working compile is going to be easier than doing it from scratch.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] paulburton:
There's a kernel binary, sure. It won't run on the TF101 though because as you mention it's not the same board. Ok, maybe it would run, but if it does then it'll have all the wrong peripheral setup etc. The source for the kernel is (presumably) the same nvidia source that's been available for a while and is the basis of the TF101 kernel I've been working on, so it shouldn't be significantly different.

'Cribbing' what exactly? I'm not sure what you think you can usefully take from this.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] daoist:
All the proprietary binaries/configs/etc. The sort of stuff we'd pull via extract-files.sh. Right now you've done an excellent job building it up from what we had in honeycomb. Now we have known-good files from ICS.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] paulburton:
Well, no. The _only_ things that I intend to use binaries for are the graphics drivers and bluetooth firmware. Bluetooth firmware doesn't care at all which version of android you're running, so we can ignore that. Which just leaves graphics drivers, which are already taken from an ICS ROM (fortunately the TF101 isn't the only tegra 2 tablet!).
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iia5880:
First, an intro abt me. Had a Rokr E8 for yrs altogether, flashed it with RSA BL and Modded MPs, so basically, I have an idea on general stuff :-)

Got my first Android, an unlocked SE Xperia X8, ( Decided over the SGY, which also happens to be in the same price range ) on a good deal.

I went thru most of the forums, posts and guides and have a relatively good idea, so I thought before i get into it, I'll clarify some stuff.

In order to flash a custom rom, I should do -

Step 1. Update my phone from 1.6 to 2.1 by PC suite.

Step 2. Root with Superoneclick

Step 3. Install Clockwork Recovery and do the related stuff as in the guide.

Step 4. Download a custom rom and put it in SD card, and flash.

Have I got it right here, or am I making a mistake?

Went thru a review of Roms on the forum ( good post, that ) and realised each rom has its ups an downs, N i m considering either the time-tested Froyobread or the Gingerdx. I c that Froyobread ( based on miniCM6 with 2.2 ) has a problem with pairing with BT headsets, and no DSP for sound. Whereas the GingerDX ( CM7.1 - And 2.3.7 ) has camera issues. But in the latest post v22 of GDx, camera issue happens to be fixed? So , I m planning to go for this, are there any other bugs?

In the same review, the author has mentioned that some of the Roms have some bugs that can be ironed out with a Custom Kernel, and I c there is one by NobodyAtAll and one called Afas... Is this necessary, if so, where does this step come? Suggest a good combo of Kernel and Rom pls....

Abt Bootloader? Should i unlock it to have Custom rom?

That means, in addition to the 4 steps that I have listed, do i have to flash Custom kernel and unlock bootloader too?

Finally, one more Qs, I c that all the roms are based on CM's work. I noticed that there is a Stable CM 7.1 mod on their site, put up on Oct 10th, 2011. Can I just flash this basic CM7.1 rather than the customised ROMs based on it? What would be the difference? It says it is a Stable Mod, so does that mean wifi,camera, android market etc all work?

Wow, so many qustions, I hope u guys have the patience to clear this noob's doubts... :D
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iia5880:
Ok, That was quite helpfu, thanks a lot....

Since u r saying that a custom kernel removes 80 % of bugs, and unlocking bootloader is required for it, am I right in saying this is my order of doing things -

Step 1. Update my phone from 1.6 to 2.1 by PC suite.

Step 2. Root with Superoneclick

Step3. Unlock bootloader

Step 4. Install custom rom

Step 5. Install Clockwork Recovery and do the related stuff as in the guide.

Step 6. Download a custom rom and put it in SD card, and flash.

Is the order right?

Thanks again...
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B.Jay:
What lucastan96 left out ...

BEFORE even trying to unlock the boot loader turn off the phone, take out the battery and look at the sticker below. There's a date code denoted.

If your phone is 11W29 or newer (11W30, 11W31, ...) DO NOT attempt to unlock the boot loader! You're going to end up with a hard brick you can NOT resurrect yourself!

If you can't unlock the boot loader this does not mean you can't use custom ROMs ... you only need to unlock the boot loader to use custom Kernels (Kernel != ROM).
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iia5880:
Wow, Thanks about that bootloader info.... will check under my battery...
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fanxl1908:
Think of the bootloader as a pre-loader for your OS on pc (Say Windows). In other words, it's the base where the ROM and the kernel is booted. So if you unlock the bootloader you can install different kernels.This improves the performance and the abilities of your phone. By having bootloader locked, it doesnt mean that you cannot install custom roms, its just that some of them require specific kernels...

Hope I helped, if I am wrong correct me
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fanxl1908:
And if you want to relock bootlader, you'll first need to flash your default kernel or else you may brick your phone
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fraaz:
Is it Good services or not to compare other software’s services.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepash:
What do you mean to say ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikewilsonn:
Answer:

Hey friend, first thing to understand is that, every software and application is different and needs different sets of codings for the development. Secondly, suppose you want to develop a JAVA software application for which you cannot use the codings for Android applications, they may be completely differ or may very less similar in some cases.

So, comparing android application development services to other softwares is something not possible.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] monkey hung:
Is there any way to get? There is no app in the market that looks like the TW widget. Is it possible?
[Galaxy Tab General] virakcam:
Instruction:

1.You need to upgrade to Android 2.3.3, please follow this instruction: http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-to-flash-updateupgrade-samsung_12.html

(If you already upgraded please go to step no.2) choose the one without bootloader.

2.Then time to root it: http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2011/05/procedure-how-to-root-samsung-galaxy.html

(If you already root, go to step no. 3).

3.Flash overcome kernel via Odin by go into download mode: http://www.ziddu.com/download/17518780/002001-Overcome_Kernel_v4.0.0.zip.html

(Do not choose re-partition on Odin) and check how much space do you have in the internal storage (not the total size of your tab).

4.Download the official MIUI http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1324528

5.Put it into your SD card

6.Boot into recovery mode by press the power button and select Reboot -> Recovery.

7.Wipe data, wipe cache. Go to advance wipe dalvik cache.

8.Install Zip from SD card, select the MIUI zip file that you just download. Choose install it.

9.Reboot your Tap.

10.After that boot into recovery again and install this file: http://ubuntuone.com/7NUVkI862sTvgu5A14bbJk

11.Use ES File Explorer / Root Explorer to delete DroidSanArabic & Hebrew then reboot

12.Install Multiling Keyboard and Khmer plugin from Android Market.

That’s it!!!

Make sure you have System Space at least 1.3Gb. Otherwise you have to redo it again and again.

Use FriendCaster app for Facebook and CM7 Camera (http://www.mediafire.com/?czzy0o2u571ex8y) instead of Stock MIUI.

If you don’t have internal storage you will loss all your app every time you reboot!

Warning:

I hold no responsibility at all. Do it at your own risk!

Make sure you back up, before you flash anything!
[General Topics] Rominucka:
When I was working for Verizon last year there was talk of congress possibly cracking down on phone contracts and forcing service providers to get rid of them.

Now, that would make it impossible to get high end devices at subsidized rates.

The only alternative (i can think of) would be either ads inherint on the phone, like what KDDI is doing with the ads in the dropdown status bar, or company branded phones, like an HTC Pepsi Evo or a Samsung Ford Motors Galaxy.

Of course the phone's casing would sport the company logos, and such, and rooting would probably be much more difficult seeing as these major corporations have a big vested interest in making sure people see their stuff.

So, would an outside company's branding piss you off?

Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
[General Topics] Adauth:
I don't see that happening.
[General Topics] Archer:
If that happened I'd go back to dumb-phones and forget all about smartphones. That's far too intrusive for my liking. (Incidentally, I see 0% chance of this happening.)
[General Topics] Akulamenuri:
I don't think there is a reason for carriers to have ad-supported devices since consumers are still purchasing devices that are $199 and $299 with a 2-year contract. I don't know 100% what the numbers are but considering the rapid growth of a smartphone adoption, the carriers won't employ ad-supported devices so they can capitalize on a profit. Now in 10-years when carriers are looking for ways to further differentiate themselves from competitors, I could see the smaller guys offering ad-supported devices to try to get a leg up on the competition with a larger customer base (i.e. A T-Mobile or Sprint offering free devices to compete with Verizon because they can't compete on tower spectrum or device selection).
[General Topics] fingerwizard:
This.

Maybe I could try living with it, but in the end I would just try flashing.
[General Topics] bleach168:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4