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[Motorola Droid X2] melvin12:
btw android already has ics 4.2 developed in beta phase which is what i have!
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
stupid question, but what does he mean by the kernel being unlocked for different implementations or whatever?

all I have to say is thank you! you're freakin' amazing!
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
Cm7 Miui etc
[Motorola Droid X2] LexRockhard:
Incredible 2? Just seems odd to mention among a bunch of moto phones.
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
Man...a fully unlocked phone. I just cant wrap my head around that yet. lol
[Motorola Droid X2] CadenH:
I think my crappy day at work was just tossed aside like a snot rag. This is all fantastic news!
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
well, if he is a Motorola employee, then he will know for sure that incredible 2 is NOT a moto phone. But he mentioned it... seems to me that he is just pulling a prank...
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
Haha. Same here.
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
man i hope not...
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Glad I skipped today!!! Prank or not! Haha

I really hope this is legit!!!!!
[Motorola Droid X2] singlesword:
Well it's not april fools day so, i'm hopping that its not a prank. I truly hope that this is real, drained the battery on my phone so turned on my laptop to watch the updates. this would open so many doors for phone if real.
[Motorola Droid X2] kellexbarr:
Lulz @ Incredible 2 reference coming from the guy supposedly working for Motorola.
[Motorola Droid X2] melvin12:
Ya you caught me just a prank had no idea incredible was a htc phone. Darn i almost had you. :p lol

well i guess you guys will never know now.
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Damn, was really hoping!! *banging head* oh well...
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
Im not liking this post...
[Motorola Droid X2] Skelente:
Dude... no. NO!
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
You serious bro!? Because if so, you're gonna get burned for this! What did I say, Bootloaders are sensitive issues for android users... I specifically said NOT to break our heart and now you go ahead and did just that... I hope your comfortable because if this is a prank it's gonna get awfully toasty for you!
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
this better not be true...
[Motorola Droid X2] Elite49:
Clearly Motorola Employees ALL own Motorola phones and ONLY talk about Motorola phones.

Really guys?
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Kudos on making this seem to get legit, you had me fooled at the end

BUT SCREW YOU!!!!! *sarcasm* haha :p
[Motorola Droid X2] Skelente:
I'm hoping this is just another example of the internet mutilating implied sarcasm.
[Motorola Droid X2] jellydroid13:
hey melvin your an asshole just so you know and everyone here will remember you as the biggest **** to enter the forums:mad:

ok 5 minutes later i realize it was kind of funny
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Common! He said that he can release a bootloader unlock for a non moto phone! If he is a moto employee he should have access to bootloader unlocks for moto phones only. HTC won't give unlocks to their phones to moto employees
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
nono, i meant it towards the prank ****.
[Motorola Droid X2] :
Does XDA log IP addresses? Can we get this guy banned?
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Or release the IP to us? :p
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
not so fast.. i am still hoping that at the end he is all legit and all....
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
He already said it was a prank! :p
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
im definitely with litetaker on this, he couldve just been an ass and said it was a prank, so i hope it isnt, but that hope is only half-hearted
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
He might have just been being sarcastic towards that one post. I dont want to say its a prank just because I want to beleive. But Melvin, if this was a prank, it wasnt wise pranking a bunch of hackers and developers. Prepare for a virus to shut down and kill your computer and phone. lol
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
6 pages and nothing confirmed. If only we are all left doubting whether this was all a big joke... Who likes to toy with the emotions of innocent people like this!!?? :(:(:(:(
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Innocent people? You mean a bunch of people who fan mess up his computer!! :p
[Motorola Droid X2] Elite49:
It's probably called...

He already states that AFTER work he was going to give the files to Hash and ace (I believe ace).
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
This is exactly why I am wasn't too keen on this. I was prepared for a let down so I'm not too upset by it.

I said it was too good to be true.
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
Hey, thats only IF he's pulling a prank. lol
[Motorola Droid X2] Stuckinabox:
Sorry, but there's no way this guy works for Motorola. I expect this to end with a ban.
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
He also said he BUILT the security system. So if moto found this, then they would know who did it, or they would have a small group that built it and they would know who it was, so why would he put that detail in?
[Motorola Droid X2] Skelente:
At this point, we can only hope.
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
nvm ignore this post
[Motorola Droid X2] 1stx2:
Is it tonight yet? NO. Try to be optomistic....
[Motorola Droid X2] motcher41:
He could just be responding to all the questions in here and the other thread....Id say just leave the thread be for now....If it's legit we will know soon if not then we will know soon
[Motorola Droid X2] jellydroid13:
nobody be optimistic this is a scam and dont get your hopes up. now who knows how to make a virus lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
I think we need to know what was in the email he sent Hash. He says he explained everything in there. Did he really go through that much trouble to make up a whole story with all this detail that he's sending the devs just to pull a prank. Id like to think not but unless he says otherwise, he's going to have us all against him. Its one thing to cover your tracks if you DO work for Motorola but its a whole other thing to toy with us in the process.
[Motorola Droid X2] Elite49:
Well an easy way of knowing if this is legit or not is to ask Hash if this guys reasoning is worth what he's doing... After that we can go back to waiting or move on.
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
I know how, just don't know how to get it on his comp! Haha
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
Lets take our finger off the trigger until the say is final. lol
[Motorola Droid X2] Elite49:
I'm guessing talking about doing what your doing might be bannable correct?
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
*sigh takes hand off mouse*......okay :p
[Motorola Droid X2] jellydroid13:
nvm delete
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Was only joke :p

*whispering*if you want, pm me for my email and we can do it outside :p
[Motorola Droid X2] mistawolfe:
Guys,

Why don't you leave Melvin be? If he does have this information (which you can't prove he doesn't) why would he want to share it with a bunch of people flaming him?

I hope you all eat your words later. Sit back, grab some popcorn, and F5. Be patient.
[Motorola Droid X2] jellydroid13:
lol this thread keeps getting better and better :D
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Didn't he himself already say it was a prank?
[Motorola Droid X2] jellydroid13:
melvin we will all completely forgive you if this is legit but if not then....:mad:
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
Yeah, I'm joking. I know nothing about that stuff. Just saying in a forum with a bunch of hackers, someone might and someone may.

Angry hackers at that.
[Motorola Droid X2] jellydroid13:
exactly;) but it just goes to show you how hot the bl topic is.
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Yeah, I wouldnt do something like this with a bunch of technology people. I mean I don't know much, I couldn't get into his computer or anything, but im sure someone could.

Yeah, definitely is a very sensitive subject, and with ICS too, man he's playing with fire and gasoline!! :p
[Motorola Droid X2] Elite49:
Well Hash hasn't responded yet so we have to wait for him too. Like I said before, he sounded like he was being sarcastic. Lets give him his time, I at first didn't believe him until he started to respond to ace and Hash. It won't hurt us to believe in him besides Motorola will be updating their ICS schedule soon :D .
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
Face it, people. Melvin had us hook, line and sinker.

But what started to have me really become suspicious is how he stated he had emailed both Hash and Ace, yet none of them have given any updates what-so-ever.

And as for ace, I have a tweet where he said they dude never responded. So, I'm wondering if we all got punked.

DAMN YOU ASHTON!!!!! :D
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
And Im just playing around with this because there is nothing to really get all hyped about yet. I didnt believe him at first. Then I started to. Now Im back to not knowing. Melvin shouldn't be toying with us like this wether he means to or not. The fact that he said it was a prank made him lose all his credibility until he chimes in here again and sets things straight. Until then, Im just interacting with all you guys with a skeptic mind and a playful attitude. I dont want to see this forum get crazy. I will be more careful with the things I post. Sorry guys.
[Motorola Droid X2] 03civicdx:
You didn't see where Hash said the guy did reply to him and he is waiting on an email back with files??
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
No biggie. That's why I kept an open mind through MOST of this, but I got suckered in too. Yet, there was always this little person on my shoulder saying "don't get suckered in yet! Keep an open mind".

I think that's why I'm not too upset by it - I was expecting this.

Also, Melvin's posts are NOT the most grammatically constructed postings. For all we know, it's some 12-year-old kid doing this.

Hey, look at it this way people. We have CM7 and ace is working on MIUI as well, so it's not all a total loss.
[Motorola Droid X2] Elite49:
That would be rather sad lol. I don't think either of them have the info because "Melvin" is "going to send the files" after he's done working. No one knows when that'll be except him. I'll check back on this later tonight for the make or break post. I suggest all you guys do the same ;)

Btw we don't need anymore drama on this site. Starting to become the MTV of phone sites.
[Motorola Droid X2] mistawolfe:
He did email Hash - I read part of it...
[Motorola Droid X2] Hashcode:
Let's examine this from 2 different sides:

- Let's say he's legit. Frankly after reading this thread and seeing how people respond by calling him out for various reasons.. I'd want to just call it off. Leave it to XDA to immediately jump on someone who may or may not be trying to do something cool to point out typos and be fairly nasty. What if it's a 3rd party dev group doing work for both HTC and Motorola? I'm not saying it's true, but what if? Does human nature have to jump into something that seems odd and immediately try and harp on it? I have a mole on my ass that looks like Jesus. Please cruxify me.

- Let's say it's a troll. Ok, haha, we get it. Let it die. No need for threats. Don't feed trolls. Those are probably pretty high on the rules of forum etiquette. I've seen troll's worse than this. Trust me.

Does X2 need some excitement on the dev end? Probably. Are you getting it? YES. CM7 is out, with a path to CM9. YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT. No need to get really bent out of shape over something like this.

Why not just let it die down and wait to see what happens?

I did receive several emails back and forth from the OP. With basically all of the information you've seen.

Easiest solution is to have a mod lock/delete the threads. End of problem.
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
More careful? You don't need to (I don't think) Im doing the same, I was like its too good to be true, then I started getting all excited and hyper, now I'm laughing saying you got us good, kudos on that, but still I hate you! :p

I'm not saying I'm making a virus (I'm not great, just fiddled with them with note pad a while back), but I would be careful if I was him. He needs to watch his back after going to a forum like this with many people who are gods with technology and prank them with two sensitive subjects, bls and ics!
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
That's great, but the email is from hotmail and it could still be prank. Doesn't mean it's truthful.

I guess we just wait and see, but everything points to this being a prank.

Someone's having the last laugh. ;)
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
Right here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21736577&postcount=73

---------- Post added at 03:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:21 PM ----------

Ace also mentioned MIUI v4 and CM9 is some tweets if I'm not mistaken
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Nvm

Sorry, ill quiet down now :)
[Motorola Droid X2] Elite49:
This kind of posts needs to be in every forum. This "community" is more like the villagers after Frankenstein's monster, driving away dev's rather then the open arms you get at a intoxicated friends house... :rolleyes:
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Hey guys! Please stop threatening Melvin... If he is legit and sees all this he may be pissed to do what he wants to do! I don't think so because if he is legit, then he is risking a lot and really wants to help so a few bad/threatening posts may not stop him but let us not give it the chance...

If he is legit, we are at the brink of breaking new ground... so wait it out and let's see what happens...
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
Not trying to be a jerk, but what does that prove? So he sent an email. It's from hotmail, people. I have a hotmail account for spam. It's the email address I use when I register on websites and I don't want spam from them.

For all we know, these emails are all part of the scam. It's really not all THAT elaborate and hard to do.

Again, not trying to be a jerk, but you have to admit, this was WAY too good to be true. And, when you start reading some of his posts in this thread, he really did let the cat out of the bag on HTC, etc. Again, that might have been by design to let us know this was a prank and he wanted to see if we would catch on.

Not a smart thing to do, considering the state of affairs with Motorola reneging on the bootloader mess, but you have to admit, who better to prank than a bunch of Motorola users like us salivating at the thought of an unlocked bootloader.

As I stated, at least we have CM7 and MIUI on the way. That's better than a lot of other people in our situation with locked bootloaders.

If it's NOT a prank, great. I'll be the first to apologize, but if I were him and it wasn't a prank, I wouldn't get all huffy-puffy about it. As a developer, you have to have a thick skin. I've been programming since 1982 and you learn to develop a thick skin. Dealing with customers can be taxing, but also rewarding especially when you deliver on your promises.

So, if he delivers, great! If he doesn't, oh well.

And, it's generated a ton of posts. You have to admit he struck a nerve!
[Motorola Droid X2] Hashcode:
What if 1 firm did work on both the Moto Droid series and also helped HTC with their "Droid" incredible?

I'm not saying that's truth. But way to focus on 1 thing in this guy's post and try to make an issue out of it?
[Motorola Droid X2] 1stx2:
Why can't everyone leave it alone until he (if) comes back and explains what the deal is?

If i was him and what he is trying to do is legit and read all these not-so-good post, i would seriously think about not helping anyone out.

just my 2 cents.
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
sorry... i was one of the guys who started that speculation... melvin please take no offense for this and don't abandon us....
[Motorola Droid X2] jellydroid13:
just wondering that with all the devs for the moto phones why they havnt all banded together to try and crack motos bootloader or are they really unbreakable?
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Well he also did say he developed the security system. Why would he say that publicly, there can't be many people who developed it could there? If moto found it, then they would be able to narrow it down to a small group of people to find out who leaked it and who to fire

Also I wouldn't say anything like "it was just a prank" if your actually legit and then log off forever. He's probably on here watching the chatter laughing
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
that is difficult... u will literally need to sit for decades to get anywhere!
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
And even the most powerful computer in existence could take years trying to crack an encrypted key. Just WAY too many possibilities to try. If it figured it out in a couple of days, it would have been just plain, stupid luck.

No, you have to have the actual decryption key to unlock it and until Motorola releases it, we're pretty much SOL.
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Some people should try to get into motos servers and sniff around for some files haha
[Motorola Droid X2] h_10:
i have better faith in humanity than to believe that anyone is so bored that he would do all of this to prank some nameless, faceless strangers on an internet message board. however my faith in humanity is shattered when internet tough guys want to immediately flame and question a guy's legitimacy knowing that it could piss him off. he doesn't know anyone anything, especially this bratty x2 community. so what if he's pranking us. would your ego be so hurt? do you feel cool in being able to tell to nameless faceless strangers "i told you so"? really? what if you are wrong? you pissed off a legitimate offer.

how about we stop w/ the questioning. if he delivers, praise be to allah, god, spaghetti monster. if he doesn't, then oh well. no need to get all butthurt about it. we are no worse than we were before.

and no need to possibly bite the hand that may feed us all.
[Motorola Droid X2] :
I'm confused...Melvin said it was a prank. Why are we expecting something more?
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
I'm right there with ya! Haha
[Motorola Droid X2] Skelente:
Because, as has been speculated multiple times, it could be that he was saying so sarcastically.
[Motorola Droid X2] Hashcode:
I wouldn't expect any more.

I'm going to assume this was a prank and let it die. And, I'm not going to let it bother me.

On a side note, we have a fantastic mod here. I sent him an email saying that there was a troll thread that probably needs to be closed a while ago and no response, nothing.

If this isn't a fine example of where a mod should just step in and clean something up, then what is?
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
I think we ALL need to calm down. Since when have you ever heard of this happening? If he WERE a Motorola developer or employee, he would lose his job big time. We're talking about what's called intellectual property. Where I work, whatever I develop stays with my company. I signed that agreement when I hired on at the utility company I work for. This includes not being allowed to do development on my own time with their software development tools. I have to use my own. I can't use their laptop that I have for my own personal use.

There was just a news article about this happening where a developer took some security code that he developed for the government. He used it mainly to teach security after he left (he didn't try to sell it), but he took code that belonged to the government. Needless to say, he's in big trouble.

In this case, Melvin could lose his job. Why would you think he would do this and risk his job and career? I mean, really. Now, sometimes you get people doing this, but to do it on a public forum where it could be traced?

I think everyone needs to take a step back and just think it over. As I stated, if he's legit, great. If he's not, just laugh it off.

As it is, this will be last post in this thread. I need to quit adding to it. Again, if Melvin comes through for us, great. As I stated, I'll be the first to apologize. Otherwise, I eagerly await Ace to release MIUI and Dragonzkiller to keep making CM7 better.
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
Thanks Hashcode. I do believe Melvin was offended . IF you don't have anything positive to add STFU AND WAIT.
[Motorola Droid X2] DAG425:
Fine example of why I moved on really... I remember when xda was THE place to come for development for any device available... Been here since WinMo... Still havent found a forum with as much information and still comeback to find what I might need. A shame really... Would have been nice if it were true Would have swapped my GNex to the wife and get my DX2 back just to play with this...

Do as we say not as we do unfortunately, as I just fed the trolls...

Good luck and good night...
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
I will apologize if he is legit. But everything seems sketchy to me. A) public forum B) he said it was a prank C) he mentioned an HTC phone D) he mentioned 4.2 E) he hasn't been back in a while F) shouldn't he be able to figure out who the great devs are if he works for moto on android phones?? Why would he ask publicly and keep the thread up after 10 hours? Even if he didn't know the great devs, he could pm a dev on here and ask who the best are around! Just seems very fishy to me
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
honestly, im just waiting, if its a troll then so be it, if its not then awesome! its whatever now
[Motorola Droid X2] T3HBR1AN:
Aaaaaaand...... Derp.

Ill believe it when I see it. Until then I'll be flashing the newest CM7 beta.
[Motorola Droid X2] ztotherad:
its honestly nice, thats what im using right now and its beautiful
[Motorola Droid X2] apacseven:
This seemed fishy right from the get go.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Edit

Read wrong

sorry

I was the one being stupid

Sorry skood
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Its 7pm now, when is he supposed to get off work? People, this is a lost cause, it was a troll, yes he got us, either lets shut up or lets get back. Stop prentending it might still be legit, Melvin already said he wasn't...
[Motorola Droid X2] ralphwiggum1:
Edit: Nothing to see here folks.
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
Hey you guys! Hashcode just received the files and he tweeted that they seem legit! :P :D

http://bit.ly/r8BnSf
[Motorola Droid X2] skwoodwiva:
l was referring to this and giving him( melvin) the benefit of the doubt . Then asking doubters to shut up.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Please edit out my quote lol

I beat ya to it....I read it wrong....sorry :p

Also

I've requested this thread be locked

If anything else comes from this then a new thread can be started

Anyone else feel free to report my OP and request it be.locked.

just don't call ME the troll ;)

Thanks
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Dddduuuurrrrrppppp
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Okay, my bad, I jumped the gun. I apologize for my behavior and doubting you sir. If these lead to unlocked bl and ics, then THANK YOU SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
lol... did u even check the link! :D :D
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Rick rolld
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Did u look at the.link lol

I quick posted like u

Then edited lol
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
I don't mind if I get burned for this! It is sooooo awesome to just trick people!!!
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Yup....haha
[Motorola Droid X2] iBolski:
Here is what Nash really said:

Doesn't sound like he got the files to me.

Rick rolld again! :D
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
Hhhmmm, wonder if your Melvin, one trick then another haha :p
[Motorola Droid X2] litetaker:
No, I am Rick... I Rick roll...
[Motorola Droid X2] IDMA.DROID.X2:
My name is mud :p

Not to be confused with Bill

Or Pete or Jack or Dennis :p
[Motorola Droid X2] ForevermanRGPC:
Well. ****.
[Motorola Droid X2] 1stx2:
forreals.:mad:

trolls are gonna troll
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
We have a mod?
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
I mean, we're lucky we have a forum lol.
[Motorola Droid X2] Hashcode:
Guys, I do actually have some links to files. I'm not sure the large one is downloading correctly.

Need some time to let them come down.

Warning: I don't know the contents yet.