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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] nitsuj17:
nope, there is nothing in the verizon testing system newer than our latest 5.10xx update

the bolt has a sense 3.0 leak, but apparently its not from vzw its some puerto rican provider that also has the mecha/tbolt on it
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] liquidsg:
Anybody figured out how to get it working on the tab plus? All the current hacks don't seem to do the trick.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] nrage23:
Try this it work for me.

http://db.tt/LmbsZiPT

sent from my Galaxy Tab 7 Plus
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] liquidsg:
still having major buffering issues (if the video loads at all). anybody do anything else special to get it working?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] saxophone101:
Anybody? ..... help?

I am in the same boat.

Anybody has Hulu working on their tab plus?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] ringnutz:
xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1449110
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] saxophone101:
Hulu not working properly on my galaxy tab plus

Thank you for your help. I already tried the two hule apk from the link and I have a problem with the "buffering time". I get an error saying the app can not connect to the network.

Has Anybody else tried these two hulu apks with success in the galaxy tab plus?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] ringnutz:
Turn off ad blocking
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] saxophone101:
Thank you, I already tried it with the ad blocking off. Has someone be able to watch hule on their galaxy tab plus with no problems at all?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] ringnutz:
I really haven't used it much.. Really only to test that it worked. I could only get the link I posted to work of all the apks I tried, and only with as blocking of. I did use titanium to restore the data only from the newest market version when installing the APK from the post so maybe try that
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] nrage23:
Market now says the Gtab 7+ is supported by Hulu Plus app.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] M1m3R:
this worked for me also. thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] Nicolfa:
Worked like a charm, thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] VitaZora:
The link no longer works. Is it possible to reenable it? Thanks so much.
[About XDA developers] cookiecaper:
I posted something quite similar to this in the thread for Nexus Beam, but I wanted to post it here too. I think it would be awesome if the xda community began to promote generation of torrent files of ROMs instead of the de-facto standard now of upload sites. It is simple to create the torrents, especially for people who are ROM developers, and it allows us to access the files easily, indefinitely, and without additional cost. I would really love it if this mechanism became widely used.

You can use the tracker at http://openbittorrent.com . It doesn't list the files anywhere and doesn't provide links so the torrent is still only available to those with whom you share it (and within the swarm via DHT).

I just spent 1.5 hours downloading a ROM and I'm in a time-sensitive situation here so I find that really sad when it could have been done in seconds if someone had created a torrent instead of relying on 6-8 crappy upload sites that cap speeds, make users wait or look at ads, etc.

I would love to hear thoughts and opinions on this.
[About XDA developers] cookiecaper:
Please see http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21691582&postcount=1888 for an example.
[About XDA developers] Pickx:
No. Far too many ISPs worldwide throttle bittorrent (mine makes it just about impossible to send or receive any data with the bittorrent protocol)
[About XDA developers] Galaxy X7:
I totally support the idea, totally! I hate the download queue and then typing captcha words - it's annoying and I hate it!

Please, at least try making torrent files! :)
[About XDA developers] cookiecaper:
BitTorrent has several mechanisms to circumvent ISP throttling, including protocol "encryption" (which is actually obfuscation, not encryption) and µTP, and most ISPs have stopped throttling it by now.

The files we're trading are relatively small so even if the connection is throttled it's still likely going to come down faster than it would on depositfiles et al -- much BitTorrent ISP throttling is upstream only, also, which makes it even less relevant.

On top of all of this, nothing stops you from ALSO uploading to multiupload or whatever file sharing site you want. If someone is in your situation, they can still download from depositfiles or ******* or whatever and are not any worse off.

I just would be happy to see torrents become a staple here. They work much better for most of us.
[About XDA developers] tomcat420m:
No very bad idea!

Lot of Dev's have a account at dev hosting site which is fast/free. Knowing torrents you know that yes they can be fast but all depends on seeds & leechers. So no seeds or leechers exceed, your worse off. In this scenario, how they are doing it is great. Always there always fast. Just no resume, but that's it. For those who complain about captchas and queue times, sign up don't have any of that. I have one cause for how much money you save is worth it by far. It's $10/month. Also lot of people just download from there phones (like me) so you would even have to get extra app on your phone, & good ones still even cost.

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[About XDA developers] TRusselo:
torrents only work as long as they are seeded. many files we use on xda must be moved, edited, or worked with, and you cant work on a file that is being seeded, so many users download then stop it so they can move and work with the files, and no longer seed, so if the host shuts off his computer, there will be little to no seeders, also if the host is the only one seeding, and is a high demand large file, it will be maxed out for the first hour or more till others get 100% and collects a few other seeders.

if there is little to no seeding, or a slow connection on the host side, the forums would FILL with complaints.

It would cause more issues than solve.

USE www.multiupload.com to host your files on multiple sites at one time. then they wont disappear when one site goes down.

personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.

thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
[About XDA developers] Auridran:
Agreed. Torrents are good for some things and bad for others. Most people either do not seed after finishing a download, or seed very little. All this would amount to would be the dev/host of the file uploading significantly more, and using significantly more of their own bandwidth.
[About XDA developers] TRusselo:
rational Canadians...
[About XDA developers] Tawm:
I'd support this 100% if it wasn't for the fact that my home ISP throttles BitTorrent like mad, and it seems outright banned at my university.
[About XDA developers] cookiecaper:
I disagree. I use torrents extensively and seed everything for months at a time. I know many others who do the same. If the uploader wants only to upload once, it is trivial to set an upload limit to 1.00 share ratio, meaning the uploader would only upload once. Once it's out in the swarm it can proliferate wildly even if the dev or original seeder drops off ASAP.
[About XDA developers] cookiecaper:
This really has little to do with the number of torrents you have active/queued in your client and more to do with the speed limits and rules that you set in your client specifically. Most torrents do NOT upload data 24/7 and especially in a case like this where the ROM changes quickly the torrents will have a relatively short shelf life for active leechers.

Again, I do not think torrents should be the ONLY distribution mechanism, but I think they should be considered a first class distribution method and encouraged at least alongside upload sites if they can't replace them entirely.
[About XDA developers] Valir:
I agree, if torrents are used, it will be more difficult for devs, means double the work for them. Keep it simple. Why make more work?.
[About XDA developers] cookiecaper:
Why is it more difficult for devs? I don't get it. A person who can build an Android ROM can surely figure out a torrent client.

I've established many reasons why we should "make more work" by using torrents. One I haven't mentioned in this thread yet is that torrents automatically split files into chunks and checksums each chunk before checksumming the entire download. This provides automatic verification -- obviously very important for the kind of files being uploaded to XDA. If there is some corruption, the corrupted pieces only are discarded and redownloaded, potentially saving tons of bandwidth and time for individuals with shoddy connections that occasionally corrupt downloads. This is much more difficult to do with HTTP.
[About XDA developers] tomcat420m:
I'm thinking it's all mainly because people don't want to type in a captcha! Lot of some people just can't take extra minute & support the hard work of these developers. Majority have careers, families. There putting there extra time to help and make stuff for others, with the majority not asking for anything in return except hit thanks, and a OPTION to donate. If you download a butt load of stuff from these creators/developers, to apps, to movies how hard is it to just donate/ get a subscription to a sharing site. To say thank you. These sites are used to help with that, (the un appreciation of users) and the developers appreciation to us users to keep it on a Thanks / Donation Basis.

What is it with the world now days? someone don't have a life, and whines. From TV shows (controversial, language), to the Internet to here. it's getting bad now. May think what this have to do with this? This is where it starts. everyone always trying to change the system for themself. Been same way for YEARS, & For a reason.

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[About XDA developers] tomcat420m:
Why do they have to take more time out of the hours/days as it is, cause it will save you maybe 5 minutes.

You really have not made a point yet honestly! It 'takes longer' in a share site, how? Type a captcha in, maybe a 'slower speed' which you won't really notice, may cause minuites at most. it's going to average out, also it WILL DOWNLOAD why? Cause it don't need seeds.

These People are putting in HOURS ON HOURS ON DAYS FOR THIS STUFF. NOT EVEN CHARGING FOR THEIR HARD WORK, AGAIN THESE SITES ASSURE THEM FROM CHARGING CAUSE THE GET A LITTLE BIT FOR ALL THE DOWNLOADS. Your waiting 5 minutes? What's the issue? Seriously that's sad & Very un appreciative :(, Sorry just calling how I see it!

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[About XDA developers] juz4:
With 2 of the sites used by MultiUpload taken down I think it's only a matter of time before the rest go.

XDA probably can't host the files, but what about a tracker?
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
Well first. No roms are uploaded to xda.

Second this has been brought up many times and each time it ends the same way. Most developers use their own hosting and don't trust torrents. In the end it is up to the developer how he wants to put up their roms. To be honest alot don't even use torrents.
[About XDA developers] MegaBubbletea:
Unless of course all site go down...now that would be a likely course of action right at this moment. FileSonic and Uploaded.to is gone.
[About XDA developers] Felimenta97:
Let's say, slow seeding and downloading at 1.7 MB/s. Thanks damn fu**ing fast for some countries (i.e. Brasil, wich I download at 1.0 MB/s at night (most seeders active)). I pay a lot (everything in here is so expensive compared to Europe/North America, eletronics cost 2 to 3 times more than in US). And I make part from the minory who can pay for this. 1.0 MB/s is damn fast, as the brazilian average is 100 to 200 KB/s.

What I mean is, look at the other side. One thing you are complaining without base.

@topic: I +1'ed this ideia. Is better and we avoid the file losing on the closing sites. We can still use Dropbox/Box.net/Minus/etc. and file sharing sites (Mediafire/Filesonic/dead Megaupload) to share minor files (i.e hotfixes, apps, themes, etc.)
[About XDA developers] ArmedandDangerous:
No. My ISP throttles torrent's like the plague. DD all the way, even if I have to wait 45 seconds for my link to appear.
[About XDA developers] TRusselo:
here... more simple for you.

my upload is only 200kb... your download is 200kb. You download off me, you max my connection. i dont want to torrent to anyone.

my complaint does have base...??..
[About XDA developers] nickdablack:
Is usenet an option? I for one would love to see roms on usenet.
[About XDA developers] CallMeVentus:
Some countries ban the BitTorrent protocol .

Some don't ban them , but limit their speeds significantly .

Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
[About XDA developers] Tenpin:
I whole heartedly support this idea. Yesterday it took me almost an hour to download a 70mb Rom! Now that's just not on.
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
Guys in the end it will be the developers choice on how they upload their stuff.
[About XDA developers] kopipaoxda:
I really agree with the request for a push towards torrents. I have always hated the DD sites. Torrenting doesn't need to max out your upload bandwidth, you can throttle the usage, set limits while PC is active, etc. And I think it's been mentioned, but there are sooo many ways around the torrent speed caps.

With the amount of goodwill support this site already enjoys, there would be plenty of seeders, and an extra filter for good/bad roms would naturally evolve. Bad roms would not get seeded as much as good roms, etc.

Anyway, I would hope more people consider it.
[About XDA developers] legion1911:
After the recent fbi crackdown on upload sites the problem will be solved anyway.

Thank you kim dotcom!
[About XDA developers] wailer247:
Well it really may take some time to see how these upload sites continue to operate (or not operate). I'm sure many of the measures some of the current ones have taken may just be out of fear of seeing the same end.
[About XDA developers] Flozzo:
First of all, most people don't even know what they're doing without adding torrents, do you really want to have to teach each of them how to download the torrents? Besides most people would just download and then exit, it's sad but true, they don't care as long as they have the files.

Just my opinion. And tbh I wouldn't download anything that gets shared as a torrent.

Oh and another thing, you'd have to get devs to do it, don't think they want to be doing this.
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
I still prefer direct file uploads, as torrents are not ideal for many people... A lot of people associate them with illegal activity, and I know that a lot of businesses and campuses block torrent outright...

It's not perfect in any way...
[About XDA developers] cookiecaper:
Some people do have irrational prejudice against torrents, but again, they are simple to create, upload, and distribute. You can cap upload at x speed, which you CAN'T do when you upload over HTTP to a direct dowload site; if you're worried about your own upload saturation, torrents are the _ideal_ distribution method.

I personally don't see why both can't be offered if developers are concerned for those on campuses where torrents are outright banned (by the way, I don't know of any such campuses; the colleges I'm familiar with disconnect you if you get even one C&D, which is harsh, but is not the same as not allowing BT usage at all, and I think most colleges would be familiar with this as their compsci students will need torrents to download Linux ISOs etc). Other uses can also create torrents and/or upload to file hosts.

I really just don't see a good reason to avoid torrents. All the complaints that are not circumstantial or regional so far are apparently from people who don't know how to work a torrent client. BitTorrent is the ideal protocol for transfers of this type. Personally I think it is better to offer a way for the majority to download at reasonable rates, to automatically check the file for corruption and automatically fix such corruption, and to get the other benefits of torrents than just to say "Some people can't use that so we are going to make it sucky for everyone".

I do sympathize with individuals who can't use torrents and hope that they continue to find sites that will host ROMs as direct downloads. But as others have stated these are disappearing fast. Torrents can't be brought down like that; even if the tracker goes down, once the torrent is in the swarm it can be retrieved via DHT.

I hope that those of us who support the idea of torrents create and upload one if there isn't one already for the ROMs we use.
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
Torrents have been added as an attachment option. Now we will see if it is used
[About XDA developers] LordManhattan:
Sweet! Spread the word!
[About XDA developers] pmbellis:
+1 ... And I'm happy to seed what I download via torrent!
[About XDA developers] ArmedandDangerous:
And how would authors of these 'bad' roms improve their ROM if nobody can find enough seeds to install and provide feedback?

Sent from pure meXdroidRom!!
[About XDA developers] quarlow:
I would expect a few control issues would also make this undesirable to the devs.

AFAIK with a torrent there is no way to know how many to times the file was completely downloaded. I think those file hosting sites give that data. But, more importantly I don't think there is a way to stop the proliferation of the file. Once a full copy is on the swarm there is no way to stop others from getting it. If the dev wants to pull a ROM for whatever reason (bugs or the whole Axura debacle comes to mind) they have no control.

From an end user standpoint I would love to see torrents as an option. Nothing aggrivates me more than getting your download interrupted and having to start all over. Just to be told you have a limit, so you have to wait to try again. Torrents scan the file, and just resume. Torrents would be a lot more reliable for downloading directly on the [android] device. Without having to mess with browsers, and try multiple sites to be told mobile isnt supported.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
OK guys the option has been added. It is up to the developers if they use it. As Pulser stated most won't but the option is there.
[About XDA developers] Herbiced:
how about we just start a file sharing site just for roms ?
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
Most developers don't want their Rome hosted anywhere so they can track downloads. So you would have to ask their permission first. This has been started a few times and always died out. Remember Tom's are always betas and not really for average users that can't troubleshoot issues
[About XDA developers] Herbiced:
what i was thinking was having a website like what megaupload used to be but just for ROMs
[About XDA developers] xclusive585:
Supporting torrenting is a good cause. There are many legitimate uses for torrenting. legal disk images for many OS's are out there. Windows 7 can be legally torrented and used by anyone with a license for activation. All linux O.S.'s are available fast and free and legally via torrent. Once people see past the stigma of it, there are many uses. Example: A background torrent program downloading updates (and sharing when it can) could be made to run automatically and independent of direct user control, greatly speeding up downloads (especially compared to smaller servers that wont put out more than 250K)
[About XDA developers] Herbiced:
the devs would choose to host their own ROMs on the site. not just joe everyone uploading all these different roms with out said permission from the dev
[About XDA developers] ArmedandDangerous:
And where will the funding from the server come from... Hosting and bandwidth ain't cheap.

Sent from pure meXdroidRom!!
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
Like I said it is up to the developers in the end. A few use their own hosting so they can track the downloads and pull them when needed. We will see if some use it.
[About XDA developers] Herbiced:
um donations and some google ads, kind of like what XDA has but not much. and maybe paid site version without ads like what rootzwiki does.

I'm just brainstorming. and maybe include some kind way to track downloads and download info for each ROM.

and not all devs have thier own hosting. the rely on sites like former megaupload and so on.

it won't be just click upload and bam a link.

maybe have upload client for mac/pc/linux

hell even and moble app to download

again just brainstroming.
[About XDA developers] Archer:
I'm well up for this idea. If I were to download something perfectly legal via a torrent file then I'd happily just leave it to seed.
[About XDA developers] Herbiced:
Maybe gave storage options. Free would get 1gb.

Maybe 5 gb $5 to $10 a month.

10 gb would $15 to $20

The funds would help keep the site afloat

I think its a good idea but it would have to exacuted right and researched.
[About XDA developers] d3w4m4l4m:
Well it really may take some time to see how these upload sites continue to operate (or not operate). I'm sure many of the measures some of the current ones have taken may just be out of fear of seeing the same end.
[About XDA developers] life:
I may be mistaken but isn't dev-host pretty much what your describing?
[About XDA developers] Herbiced:
what do you mean?
[About XDA developers] life:
http://dev-host.org/

http://dev-host.org/?op=payments

check it out, some of the dev's here use it, it shows something like 5,000 mb on registered account which i have, and if you upgrade its 10,000 mb
[About XDA developers] Herbiced:
did not know that existed..... but yeah something like that.
[About XDA developers] Simon_WM:
Yeah the idea of using torrents is a good one, Although that means that some people will also have to be seeding, Which i dont mind doing the ROMs, Cabs, APKs ad Fixs that i want to use for the specific Deivice
[About XDA developers] Neur0Nerd:
Yep, I think that it is a good idea but the problems are :

- Program Torrent as Bitorrent or uTorrent.

- The torrent download is slow.
[About XDA developers] PeartFan40:
I'm surprised this thread is still open. Torrent clients are primarily designed and used to promote piracy and copyright violation. Introducing ROM development through the use of torrents would most likely lead to XDA members sharing illegal or pirated apps/software, which XDA strictly prohibts. In my opinion, the thought of using torrent clients to download ROMs on XDA, would be an epic fail. The current system for downloading ROMs and add ons from developers has worked quite well, so it doesn't make sense to fix something that isn't broken.
[About XDA developers] Archer:
XDA would obviously only have torrents attached or linked if they were legal, just like the current attachments and links are. People are suggesting alternative methods of downloading ROMs, not illegal software. The reason they are doing this is because so many file sharing sites are shutting down. This is simply a discussion about a perfectly legal alternative.

Not everyone uses bit torrents to download illegal files.
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
You could also make exactly the same argument about the file sharing sites currently used to host ROM's....

Torrents have many legitimate uses, its just unfortunate the average user is only aware of them due to their potential for distributing warez...