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[HTC Inspire 4G] NeedleRat:
28 on top of 26 w/ Apex, all good

I loaded 28 on top of 26 and I use Apex launcher. Running nice and smooth.
[HTC Inspire 4G] stavros3006:
I'll do it later when I get home. Will let you know how it goes.

So, just a simple replace of the boot.img in the zip, no other magical skills required?

Also tell me if you need it on a full wipe or just cache/dalvik is enough?

And, for a hat trick question, to restore the ROM with its boot.img after the test just to reflash stock AR28.zip on top of it and done?

EDIT: Did it but bummer, no change. Stuttering is still there, it even got a bit worse on occasions.
[HTC Inspire 4G] evanbigfan:
I've had the best battery life in AR27
[HTC Inspire 4G] nhshah7:
hey existz,

flashed ar28 on ar26 this morning (wipe cache + dalvik). no issues so far and loving the avrcp 1.3 :). stock launcher. havne't noticed any choppiness but I'm only using 3 screens.

Cheers :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] ST3ALTHPSYCH0:
I forgot to update. Finally got all my widgets, shortcuts and folders back where I wanted them. I have all 5 home screens full, and I see no difference in portrait or landscape scrolling than I did any any previous iteration that I flashed.

Seems odd that there's such a disparity in experience with this.

Anyway, I tried backing up Contacts in TiBU, but it didn't work the way I had hoped. Is there anyway to restore joined contacts after a new flash? It eats up about an hour relinking all my dupe contacts from different Google accounts and my FB account
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
Nothing that I know of, either fix the names to match FB names or move to Sense Roms which have this capacity.

Sent from my Inspire 4G
[HTC Inspire 4G] bandolero584:
confused

Im running 28 and its a great rom but i notice that the h+ up and down arrows appears on top of the signal bars. anyone with this issue?
[HTC Inspire 4G] ST3ALTHPSYCH0:
Not an issue, Look at the Wifi, it's the same. That's the way it's designed.
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
I think that's standard in ICS, or at least I have always had it like that.

Sent from my Inspire 4G
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Correct...its not an issue..its just the way its designed on ICS
[HTC Inspire 4G] bandolero584:
ok thanks.
[HTC Inspire 4G] PipelinerArd:
I have the Q&A thread set up for those with questions regarding Existz's rom. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=24504044#post24504044
[HTC Inspire 4G] fmac:
I've noticed that AR28 is a little bit more sluggish than AR26, im not criticizing, just wanted to know if anyone is experiencing the same thing..

great work btw
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
Yes, some have discussed this in the last few pages. You can try using the boot.img from AR26, put in the AR28 .zip and reflash the rom. This was suggested by existz, although I'm not sure anyone has tried and reported results afterwards.
[HTC Inspire 4G] stavros3006:
I tried it and there was no difference. My post is one page back.
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
Is this really necessary? Head over to the DHD forum and you'll see that another ICS is having a lot of problems with the Q& A thread. People still post issues on the development thread, and worst, it seems the devs are ignoring the Q& A thread feedback, and issues reported there are not getting fixed.

If this is what everyone wants, then I will abide, and I'll post in the Q& A.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Twiggi:
I've been on this ROM since AR25; really liking what I've seen so far. Thanks to existz and everyone else for all their work.

Something I noticed: After flashing AR28, my battery was draining really quickly (8-10 hours on a full charge). When I tried re-flashing AR28 to see if it would correct the battery drain problem, I noticed inspiremod was on my SD card and realized that I didn't flash it with my last update. After a clean install AND flashing inspiremod, battery life is excellent again.
[HTC Inspire 4G] hellot1M:
Someone needs to create a sticky for all ICS rom relates issues. That it be this one or any other ICS rom developed for this device. It has done a great job of organizing the questions from development work done here. Its a great way to easily find solutions to most problems without asking it over and over here or in any other ICS rom forum. Create clutter. I do have to agree with you on the Q&A section. Most devs dont try to keep up with it as most of the questions there are questions that have been answered several times before. But this about it, if one sticky was made to keep track of the most common issues then it would save so many people so much time and give the devs much more motivation to keep up with their threads. Because admit it. We have all read through several pages of people repeating themselves or just chatting with each other.
[HTC Inspire 4G] hellot1M:
I meant to say it has done a great job on other forums for other devices currently working on getting ICS on devices that have yet to receive an official ics ota
[HTC Inspire 4G] famewolf:
The rom I use on my hd2 has created a Q&A Wiki....it has all the most common asked questions and their answers. 9 out of 10 times the user never bothers to read it and ends up posting in the thread anyway. You can only say "Go read the wiki" so many times before some user attacks you as being "unhelpful". Many issues are already listed in the issue list...while I like the idea in concept I'm not sure how much is actually going to be gained.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Rakkesh27:
Exitz, what i observed that phone is getting unresponsive more after flashing AR28. from the last two days i had to take the battery out 10 times to reboot.
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Did you try using export/import function from People app?
[HTC Inspire 4G] ST3ALTHPSYCH0:
This. I had to battery pull twice yesterday... That doubles my number of battery pulls since owning the phone.

No, I didn't think to try that.

In fact, now that you mention it, my lock ups could well be from trying to restore system data.

If mine continue, I'll have to clean install to confirm that I didn't cause the problem. Restoring music playlists was successful though.

Sent from the computer I carry in my pocket.
[HTC Inspire 4G] sportscrazed2:
Not exactly related but wtf where they thinking not letting you hard reboot by holding power?
[HTC Inspire 4G] stavros3006:
Existz, in case you haven't noticed my previous post, I did what you asked for yesterday and replaced AR26's boot.img into AR28 and flashed but it had no effect. So, after that I reflashed AR28 again with its own proper boot.img. This morning I did notice the homescreen scrolling going smoother than before.

So, for the sole purpose of comparison, I have made a video in which I show you all guys how's the smoothness of scrolling doing on my phone. Everyone that has encountered the stuttering can see and compare their results with mine. You also might compare with your own device existz.

So, I'm on AR28, no OC/UV and I got around 95% of the smoothness I had on AR26 previously. It's still not quite there, but it's very very very close. And for the ones that might comment that I have too many widgets and shortcuts going on, this is a configuration of widgets/shortcuts that I've been running since forever, so my personal comparison with AR26 is done with the exact same configuration and placement of w/s.

Here's the video (I know that you all might have seen amateur pRon better recorded than this, but I did it while I had a lunch break at work with a SE Xperia Mini :))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jvvn1itwQ
[HTC Inspire 4G] ST3ALTHPSYCH0:
FINALLY, one thing I can say I liked about the iPhone. It would need to be a vol+ power combo to prevent accidentals, but THIS. TBH, I wouldn't mind having to do a battery pull if the battery door was as easy to remove as the SIM door.
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Well, it certainly is bad for you current system if you restored system data from previous one. Import/export is most convenient and simple method if you dont want to sync with google.
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
And one more time for existz... about "screen off and lock apps", they dont work. Screen by itself comes back on immediately after going off when widget or shortcut is pressed. Any ideas?
[HTC Inspire 4G] ST3ALTHPSYCH0:
I do sync with Google.... but when I have 5 accounts plus facebook, sometimes contacts get duped.
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Ok, random freezes aren't so random anymore... it happened to me a number of times in last 24h and it always happens in 2 cases:

1. Exiting a game (Temple Run, Zenonia 3)

2. Surfing internet with stock browser
[HTC Inspire 4G] sportscrazed2:
Advice from a novice. Install my backup pro then backup apps and app data. Do a full wipe and reinstall and just restore the apps and data. You will have to setup home screens again but that isn't a big deal IMO. I've only had one lockup in this version. Previous lockups always happened while browsing for me so I'm trying all the browsers on market.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Stock browser is known issue...as for temple run, I play it 5-6 times a day and never had a reboot.. Try a clean wipe and just reinstall the game (redownload from market if you can, no backups) and see if it happens . And this is on 28?
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Yes, on 28. I think it doesnt matter which game it is. It always happened after playing an hour or so. After a long time, when I exit game, it just freezes in app drawer.
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Thats how I roll, exactly what I do when changing roms. As for the browsers, it happened several times with chrome, although its also still in beta. Opera mini drives me crazy when sometimes wont open the link but instead just refreshes current page. I didnt like Dolphin when I used it on my Galaxy Tab 10.1, but maybe I should try it out now on I4G...
[HTC Inspire 4G] rdw55a:
I was having a couple of problems at first with FC's and freezes after a dirty install on top of AR27. So I did a clean install of AR28 and now the Rom works great. Nice job existz, as always.
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
And now the weirdest thing happened, probably because freezing during exiting Temple Run. All my progress is gone, and now I have to start from scratch! I had all powerups maxed out and unlocked 3 characters. :) Oh well...
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
I agree with inspire4gfreak, most of my freezes and reboots happened while opening closing Temple Run
[HTC Inspire 4G] born_fisherman:
I get freezing during angry birds and shine runner.. although NBA jam doesn't seem to freeze. So who knows what the culprit is
[HTC Inspire 4G] hellot1M:
Ics mostly. Its still a fresh OS not being used as much as gingerbread. Most apps are still working out the bugs for their apps they worked so hard getting to run smooth on gingerbread. Every phone is different and people are going to run into different issues. I have 4 phones and two of them are the same. I can flash both phones exactly the same and I could have an issue with an app on one of the phones and not at all on the other. Also as silly as this may sound it also has a lot to do with what else you have installed on your phone and apps that require root permissions. Any time an app requires root permissions its usually because it has to use or alter a portion of ur phone not normal to the operating system and that can (sometimes rare) cause issues with other apps on your phone that were designed to read a code a specific way for it to run correctly. When it detects alterations in the sources its using to run the app it can cause your phone to freeze or reboot. Sometimes its not your fault. App devs are constantly updating and fixing these bugs to not depend so much on specific code but its a process. Don't blame the rom especially an ICS rom still in development. When your phone runs smooth and one or two or a few other apps cause your phone to have its monthly period wipe cache and dalvik then fix permissions and see if that helps. If not then notify the app developer of your issue and the phone and rom you are using so they can have a better idea of what's going on. Logcats are also golden in these situation. Download a logcat app from the market and submit these to both the dev of your rom and the dev of the app. They can use these to pinpoint the problem and to find a solution
[HTC Inspire 4G] wisinx:
Having same issues as other users since AR 28, I am experiencing Phone freezes and FC while playing almost all of my games.
[HTC Inspire 4G] ravennyc:
I've been running AR26 for little more than a week now. Switched from CM7 #260 nightly.

The only issue I have faced would have to be the freezes, most of the freezes just auto reboots the phone, while for some I have had to perform a battery pull. This happens a minimum of at least twice daily.

I could not figure out the pattern as to what is causing the issue. After reading various posts in the thread, I would probably have to also say that almost 90% of the time the freeze occurs while I am within the stock or chrome browser.

Being that its a known issue, everything else has been smooth so far. Thank you developer.

On a side note, the SIP settings also work well. Perhaps mute is not working for internet calls. Will post a bug report once I validate a few times first.

I would like to know if there is any info available on battery consumption. I understand its a broad topic and various factors need to be considered (such as types of apps running and background processes, screen brightness, and many more ), but would there be any info on average usage.. etc.

Will be switching to AR28 this evening. BTW goo.in prompted about the update, so its been downloaded.

May I ask what is the difference between a dirty and a clean install?

Should I do a wipe cache and also dalvik?
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Dirty install is flashing newer version of the same rom over your older one, without wiping anything. Clean install is flashing new rom after doing 3 wipes: data/factory reset, cache, dalvik
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
And since you come from AR26 its recommended for you to do a clean install (with wiping). AR27 is the minimum for doing dirty install, so if you flash AR28, you should be ok flashing every next new version of this rom, except if develeoper instruct you otherwise. I hope this has been helpful
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
I am on a clean full wipe install of AR28 and have not had a single reboot or lockup.

I will say, however, that I do notice the slight jerkiness when swiping screens on the launcher. It is present for me on the included launcher, Nova, and Apex as well.

Just posting this for added info for existz, because everything else is fantastic. It is extremely fast in every other aspect, just the screen swiping. Not a big deal, just weird.
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
In fact, in your case I wouldn't even venture to try a dirty install. I never had a freeze while using AR26, and you say you can have as many as two a day, so there could be somentuhig wrong.

With all the tools we have today, I think full wipe should be required always, regardless of the update, so thatthe developer may discard a lot of variable when providing assistance with problems. I have ~40 apps, and a few email accounts, so it usually doesn't take me more than 10 minutes to restore everything.
[HTC Inspire 4G] oFUNGUSo:
oh hell im sorry. meant to post question in Q&A. deleted.
[HTC Inspire 4G] radcpuman:
I started using TiBU with this release. Makes it faster, but getting the home screens back like I had them is a pain. I need to find a way to save and restore that layout.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RampageRR:
If you use Nova Launcher, there is an option to back up your home screens and restore them. It will even restore Widgets, etc.

The best way to do it is to reinstall all of your apps and widgets from the market, then select the restore option in Nova. Works great.
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Completely agree, full wipe rules :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
I need someone who knows how to use logcat to get me a log of when it freezes playing/exiting a game. I just need the relevant part of the log please... I'm still unable to reproduce this one.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
And I 2nd this ... Its always *best* to do a full wipe regardless.. I'm also not a big fan of Tibu..etc...some times its the backups/data..etc that causes issues.. I usually just keep backups of the apks in data/app and keep them on my sdcard...then I just reinstall them..But I usually flash 5-10 times a day testing ****, so I've kinda got a routine down lol..
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Ok, I want to help, but I never used logcat, so here's what I did...

I installed logcat and started it. Then I started Temple Run, played one game and tried to exit game. Then my phone freezed, so I pulled battery out. I turned my phone back on, entered logcat, saved the file. Is that the right procedure? Sorry if I'm being stupid. :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
The easiest way is to connect to PC (must have android sdk installed), then all you have to do is open a terminal on your computer, type "adb logcat".. Then you will see logcat in real time.., Open the game, do whatever you need to reproduce it, and you will see the info in the terminal.. Then just copy/paste it to something like pastebin.com.. You can click the "Issues" tab on the GoogleCode site and it will give you instructions
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Ok, I'll try that now if someone don't do it before me

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I set everything up 20min ago and I'm doing it, but the game just wont freeze now! :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
FINALLY! There you go. Hope it will help.

Sorry I couldn't use pastebin.com or GoogleCode. It's like 4am here and I have to get up for work soon :D
[HTC Inspire 4G] :
Apex launcher does it.

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I was having these freezes and reboots with Temple Run, but now I cant reproduce them. What I did was wipe and revert to AR26 flashing also the sscreen fix and inspiremod. I booted, and rebooted to 4EXT and installed AR28 after wiping only cache and dalvik. Don't know why but this fixed it.

EDIT just had two reboots one after playing Temple Run and another after selection a Gmail notifico from the status bar.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Zen-Dragon:
On AR28. Not noticing any major lag.

Installed temple run today, to see what the fuss is about and its been working fine.

The only thing I am experiencing is an issue with speaker phone. When I enable its muted even though the mute is not lit. I have to toggle the mute button for them to hear me. Then have to do it again when going back to normal phone.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Youngunn2008:
I did it haha

Multitasking button in notifications bar, working with no errors

Have to add this in at source code level so its not easy... :rolleyes:
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Existz, did logcat help you at all?
[HTC Inspire 4G] MonsterBandit:
care to share with the rest of the class...this looks awesome great work man
[HTC Inspire 4G] stavros3006:
Patience mate, existz is aroud 8-9 hours difference in time zones from you and me, he's probably still sleeping :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Yeah... time zones are such a pain...
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
2nd this :)
[HTC Inspire 4G] JDC2389:
This rom is extremely fast and stable compared to all the other ics roms, I even ran some ff7 on fpse. There is a slight problem with the graphics drivers but they work flawless for the most part. I installed Daemon Controller and multitasking pro 1.70 and a few other goodies. No crashes from games, video, or netflix(used the netflix apk from collective). This makes me excited to see what Existz can cook up next.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Next version should be pretty good...Disabled a lot of logcat spam..so it should help when trying to get a debug log (removed all the /dev/pmem spam, all the spam when playing videos or using camera).. Also added "swipe edge of page to view open tabs" in stock browser.. A lot of stuff to Camera app (video still doesn't work).. Plus quite a bit more stuff... Should be a good release..and hopefully I'll be able to squash a few of these bug reports
[HTC Inspire 4G] Oathdynasty:
If I have say AR26 installed, can I just go into recovery, and install AR28, or do I need to wipe everything?
[HTC Inspire 4G] stavros3006:
No doubts there.

Call me foolish, but I do seem to notice that the launcher gets smoother with each passing day, it's like it just needs time to settle down. And I do noticed increase in smoothness after I replaced the new digital clock widget back to the analog one...

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Full wipe (data/cache/dalvik) is recommended because there were quite a few big changes included in this update, the biggest being Android itself got updated from v4.0.3 to v4.0.4.
[HTC Inspire 4G] inspire4gfreak:
Same here, it's like launcher is making itself comfortable as time passes by. It now works much smoother than 2-3 days ago
[HTC Inspire 4G] gvsukids:
Seeing better battery life after a couple of days using 28.
[HTC Inspire 4G] iPwn_:
One of the changes in AR28 seems to have made the UI much choppier.

Same thing happened from Lord's 7.1test 3 to 7.1test6...the homescreen became noticeably choppier.

Not sure what it is yet.
[HTC Inspire 4G] young440:
Well the battery life is a million times better with AR28 vs 27. I'm looking forward to the next update

Sent from the heavens using XDA
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
He wouldn't have an exact changelog for his test builds would he? Shouldn't take me no time if I could compare ...If it started in 7.1t3 then I should just be able to see what changed from 7.1t2-t3 and compare it with mine to see what all's the same .
[HTC Inspire 4G] boimarc89:
http://blackice.omca.co.uk/download/icecoldsandwich/TestVersions/changelog tests.txt
[HTC Inspire 4G] Beta_MO:
I had this issue on AR26 (as did some other people) - on AR28 (installed on Thursday, 04/05/12) I have NOT had this issue again (yet), and I use the speaker phone all the time due to my hearing - unless I'm in the car, where I use Bluetooth, which has never been an issue.

I always do a complete wipe of EVERYTHING (including SD card), and I did that a few times with AR26 to see if it was a theme or something - still had the problem- went back to AR25 and no issue.

Still don't know what the bug is with regard to the speaker phone since it was intermittent, but it's gone for me with AR28 (so far - knock on synthetic wood)!

- B
[HTC Inspire 4G] Salv0:
Maybe stupid question but ..in the pictures I see quick settings in the notification bar,but I don't have them.. I have to install or enable them in some way?:p

(I'm on 28)
[HTC Inspire 4G] harpo1:
Pull down your notification bar and quick tap the settings icon right next to the date. A long press will take you to the settings menu.
[HTC Inspire 4G] iPwn_:
No 7.1t3 was as smooth as butter. It started in t6.

He does have a change log in the link someone else just posted but it's not always specific.
[HTC Inspire 4G] ravennyc:
Been running AR28 for two days now. Haven't experienced any lag on the home screens. Only one freeze per day, which reboots the system. Yesterday was while I was tying to get directions using Google maps. Today, about 2 mins ago while using chrome beta surfing.

Of course, none of this would be helpful for existz without a logcat, so will try and get adb running later to get some meaningful details.

Worthy of mention though: battery life is superb. My phone lasted from 11:00 am through 10:00 pm yesterday. Several whatsapp messages, about 30 mins total of talk time. Most of which was idle/ standby time with one Gmail, Google voice, google+, goigle talk and facebook account sync running.
[HTC Inspire 4G] existz:
Ok, thanks...unfourtantly not much info on T6, but I still got a few more things to try