yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kangxi:
Was this with 4.0.3 or 4.0.2?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kristovaher:
Point was to show the differences between usability between the two browsers and demonstrate as ICS browser being more usable than iPhone alternative.

I personally prefer if the scrolling does not have a stopper like iPhone has. When I am on a website I frequently visit, I tend to know how much I need to flick to scroll to specific part of the page. It is more intuitive and doing multiple flicks in a row and is especially useful to get to comments quickly on articles and news. Same applies to tab switching, which is much better on ICS.

ICS browser improves zooming quite a bit. Finger-zooming and double-tap have different functionality attached. Double-tab re-formats paragraphs to fit the screen while finger-zooming does not. This is really useful for many cases in my opinion.

No it does not, where is that coming from? ICS has a different 'default' font than what is on Windows (where it is Times New Roman, instead of Roboto), but if designer assigns a custom font that exists on Android, it is shown as such. Of course certain Windows-only or Mac-only fonts are not supported by default (there is no Comic Sans on Android, for example), but that has been an issue with all multi-platform web's ever since browsers other than Internet Explorer gained some market share.

Also, you can't get the actual font the web designer intended unless the software that runs the website takes this into account. A lot of websites are built Windows-only and look different on Mac's. Fonts are even more different for a devices that run Android, since Android does not incorporate proprietary and copyrighted fonts by default.

But with proper web software, if the website is coded right, then ICS browser supports all the possible fonts out there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jhuynh:
edit: Ok I just watched the video again and getting the audio now. I'm not sure why I didn't have audio the first time.

ICS improves zooming but it's still not at the level of the iPhone. Just admit it is better on the iPhone instead of hiding behind the fact that it is better than gingerbread. I'd have to find the article but one review mentioned the page rendering was weird and when they compared to an iPhone they realized it was using Roboto which messed up the website design. It might have just been one website that had that issue so I'm not 100% sure since Roboto looks a hell of a lot like Helvetica.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] omersak:
theverge.com is an example of that - the correct font doesn't display on the GN.

back on topic, Great video.

I'd say that the overall browser experience of the GN is quite a bit better than my 4s, despite the rendering and scrolling issues et al - the 4.65 + 720p combo really is killer for the web. Fantastic experience BUT it comes at a price which sacrifices its reliability - battery life

that's why the 4s is still the go-to browsing device for me - i can browse the web for around 7-8 hours on my before the battery drains while i can barely go 2-3 hours on my GN.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kristovaher:
This is because developers of theverge.com have not taken into account Android. They are using an OpenType format for fonts which is supported in Android, but apparently not the inline-base64-css way that The Verge does it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
Thank you

4.0.2

I'd have to disagree with you. I've had a chance to do a lot of side by side and the Galaxy Nexus consistently loads faster than the 4s. Of course in the video I wasn't really trying to do a speed test since there are already many of those videos out. But in doing side by sides in my own time I can tell you the GNex almost always loads pages faster. It isn't a night and day type of difference. On some pages it does load significantly faster and on others just a hair faster.

As for the layout of the pages, I don't really have an issue with how either phone does the layout. I'd have to give the nod to the Galaxy Nexus however, for the fact that it shows more content, and that content is readable. On the iphone when it first loads a page, it can be very difficult to read what is on the page without squinting due to screen size issues.

Polish wise, I'm pretty impressed with the GNex's browser. I find it to be more polished and complete than that of the iphone. Yes the iphone's browser is a tad bit smoother, but that's due to it limiting what it has to render when scrolling. It doesn't allow you to scroll how you'd like. That annoys the heck out of me. I'm used to being able to manage my scrolling myself and scroll to where I want to. Instead the iphone will only allow you to scroll a predetermined amount which in turns delivers that oft mentioned "smoothness".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Diversion:
I own both a 4S and a Nexus.

I found stock for stock, the 4S was faster at pulling up webpages, etc. over wifi. Faster rendering on 4S basically. Scrolling mechanics are better on iPhones (as usual).

After a custom fresh rom and an overclock to the CPU at 1350mhz and the GPU oc'd to 384mhz the Nexus begins to out-speed the 4S in rendering. Scrolling mechanics still remain better on 4S of course.

It's hard for Android to compete with iOS since Apple's OS is so highly optimized for their own hardware. Google is optimized on a more global scale... Leaving not much room for an Apple-level amount of optimization.

The browser in ICS is still the best browser on Android this far. iOS' browser is amazing and hard to really topple in terms of speed and quality.

The A5 clock for clock will outright smoke the OMAP4460.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChongoDroid:
Go to any flash website, instant android win

Sent from my Google phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
My experiences have been almost the complete opposite of yours. 9 times out of 10 the GNex loads web pages faster than the 4S. As for the scrolling, I really am not impressed at all by the 4S' scrolling due to it being highly controlled (meaning it scrolls a predetermined distance). That is incredibly annoying to me. I hate having to swipe and swipe and swipe just to get to the bottom of a page, when on my Nexus I can get there in one swipe. Also, I don't find the iOS browser to be amazing at all. I find it to be lacking in several areas. For example, you can't even download or upload from the browser...that isn't very amazing at all. It doesn't reformat text, which means to read articles, often times you're going to have to scroll side to side in addition to vertically...that isn't very amazing either. Then of course there's the lack of flash, so you can forget about going to a site like cnn and clicking on one of the video links. All in all I find the iOS browser to be average on a good day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EP2008:
How did you get the GN browser to open WITHOUT refreshing the page?? Custom rom? Having the pages reload every time I open the browser is a huge annoyance .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NuclearEMP:
hahaha @ 7:58 on the video the preview image on the nexus is almost the same size as the 4s' screen . [chuckle]
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kangxi:
To the OP, you should run this test again using the browser from 4.0.3. It has Bern further optimized and performs better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kekspernikai:
Mine behaves like OP's. It doesn't reload unless I've been playing a game or something in between.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EP2008:
Could this be a difference with 4.0.2? I'm on 4.0.1 and the browser reloads no matter what... In fact all the browsers I've used do the same thing in ICS. It doesn't reload like that in Honeycomb.
[XPERIA X8 General] Great Boy:
HI GUYS

sorry i have searched but i didn't find what i exactly wanted.!:rolleyes:

i'm using stock kernal and gingerxperia v22

what is the max cpu Frequency which is stable???

sorry for my bad english.!;)
[XPERIA X8 General] sidewalk_:
It depends on you phone's cpu, mate ..

Mine is stable at 748MHz ...

Its all about EXPERIMENT !
[XPERIA X8 General] CKKnot:
Yea, its about experiment, mine stable at 748, reboot at 787 when running bencmark n some instensive app

*__________* |Sony Erricsson X8 White-Dark&Blue| Alfs 06 No Caps| Fde Xperience 2.4.3| Unlocked Bootloader 11W26|748 Mhz| 700MiB 60 Swap| 128 Ext-2 APP2SD| Class 4 8GiB SDCARD| AnTuTu 1950-2050+ (May Change)

Thanks button> :p ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Y
[XPERIA X8 General] sidewalk_:
Same here :-)
[XPERIA X8 General] Godra:
Just dont set frequency at boot and see how much can you OC it.
[XPERIA X8 General] sam619:
mine is stable at 748mhz(alfs kernel)
[XPERIA X8 General] n1kolaa:
meine at 600 and 728 on alfs and nAa
[XPERIA X8 General] Xmaster8:
729mhz on stock and nAa kernel

787mhz on Alfs kernel
[XPERIA X8 General] modi:
729 mhz on Alfs is stable
[XPERIA X8 General] Mohamedshajid:
Guys How to overclock x8 dude :(
[XPERIA X8 General] BuT_TeR:
Check this out

dude.. Yse the search buttom re......... use doxinah module . he has done brilliant work ... :P thanks to him we cn overlock with stock kernel..
[XPERIA X8 General] sidewalk_:
Mine stable on 748
[XPERIA X8 General] 8xfan:
768 is very stable for me..787 still ok but at 806 phone reboot sometimes:(
[XPERIA X8 General] AKK9:
Mine is stable on 806MHz but if I switch it up to 825 I get restarts when I use certain apps, such as Market.

It's strange, I can do Stress Test for an hour with SetCPU at 825, but when I use Market it restarts my phone.
[XPERIA X8 General] 8xfan:
use dx modules?
[XPERIA X8 General] Deleted member 3493119:
721 MHz on stock kernel running 2.3.7
[XPERIA X8 General] Mohamedshajid:
Now iam using a Ginger Xperia ROM. But OC Was Builtin up to 820 mhz i think so.. That was truly awesome xD :D
[XPERIA X8 General] AKK9:
Yeah, I use those modules on FroyoBread and stock kernel I think.
[XPERIA X8 General] Mika Dee:
Why do you guys always wanted to fry your phone? Btw Im just wondering. Others cooked roms you guys fry phones. hehe peace on you.
[XPERIA X8 General] Metallimaniac:
I'm with 715...

Nope, I'm just kidin, just want to do, but I don't even know how to install the module. =(
[XPERIA X8 General] Bravia4X8:
Guys..I am using XGIN Rom with Alfs kernel and my X8 is stable at

1. 699 Mhz with ondemand governor

2. 710 Mhz with smartass V2 governor

3. 729-748 Mhz with InteractiveX governor

So, Governors also play an important role in overclocking
[XPERIA X8 General] 8xfan:
with interactiveX i can go to 806 :D ondemand 768,smartassV2 787 but i dont OC anymore..use smartassV2 with 600
[XPERIA X8 General] 8xfan:
don't know..i use custom kernel n it have interactiveX
[XPERIA X8 General] CKKnot:
There are two way to oc

-by using kernel

-flash rom + oc modules by doixanh.

Use search button to see oc thread.

*__________* |Sony Erricsson X8 White-Dark&Blue| Alfs 06 No Caps| Fde Xperience 2.4.3| Unlocked Bootloader 11W26|748 Mhz| 700MiB 60 Swap| 128 Ext-2 APP2SD| Class 4 8GiB SDCARD| AnTuTu 1950-2050+ (May Change)

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[XPERIA X8 General] Metallimaniac:
So... I've installed the oveclock module, and set the clock at 691 by default. I've been using the phone heavily all day long, and I can't see any major differences in the performance. Then, I'm going back to the 600 max clock. I'd rather have more battery autonomy. =)

My question is, does the oveclock gives you sensitive gain in performance? If yes, in what kind of application?

Edit: Sorry about any problems in my english. =/
[XPERIA X8 General] vinmac:
You should try undervolt .

It improves battery life to a little extent and also improves performance somehow

You can check performance change in fruit ninja new version having pomegrenate.
[XPERIA X8 General] Metallimaniac:
How can I do undervolt?

I'm using GingerDX v021, with default kernel.
[XPERIA X8 General] Sira.:
Well, my phone is quite stable at 787 using smartass2..

i have alfs+GDXv21 ..
[XPERIA X8 General] 8xfan:
GDX is already have x8uv
[XPERIA X8 General] pieciak:
hello I have ROM and kernel GignerDx Alfs, how can I turn up the processor to a value such as 700MHz? because I have a choice only between 600 and 729mhz. At 729 I restarts: (Please help because I saw with you said that will turn up to 699 mhz - how you did it? Greet
[XPERIA X8 General] XperianPro:
Use voltage control.
[XPERIA X8 General] wilbso:
For some 747 I think. For others 710 or below
[XPERIA X8 General] bogdan_mihai554:
My phone is only stable til 691. Anything higher and it will reboot. On alfs kernel i can go to 729 but not in cpu intensive applications as my phone will just reboot...
[XPERIA X8 General] pieciak:
where to get this voltage control and how to use it?
[XPERIA X8 General] Neur0Nerd:
I've a flashed ROM (MINICM 2.20) and nAa 11.

Have I to use Setcpu or modules to overlock ?.
[XPERIA X8 General] pochopsp:
just go to settings/cyanogenmod/performance/cpu settings/overclock :D
[XPERIA X8 General] dickperia:
710mhz is most stable in my device, 729mhz is maximum with automatic restart sometime.
[XPERIA X8 General] Neur0Nerd:
Overlock bugs my X8 with nAa 11 Kernel :S. So I'm to 600mhz
[XPERIA X8 General] Great Boy:
For me it doesn't reboot on stock kernal at 748.! with Stormix rom.!

And good at nAa on 806mh.!

sry for my english
[XPERIA X8 General] Neur0Nerd:
Arf I had to reboot my x8. So, the oc doesn't work.
[XPERIA X8 General] faraz_fireboy:
Mine is fully stable@ 806 using Gingerdx v24+ alfs
[XPERIA X8 General] Neur0Nerd:
Alf kernel looks great. I don't know if I'll install it.
[XPERIA X8 General] faraz_fireboy:
Yes alfs gives more performance points but some people got Wi-Fi problem with that
[XPERIA X8 General] nunogilberto:
mine is stable at 729 (nAa/Alfs)

you should try it by yourself, because sometimes each phone has different stable OC frequency... :)
[XPERIA X8 General] Neur0Nerd:
Yep we don't all have the same value of oc. I hope I could oc soon by trying another Kernel.
[XPERIA X8 General] mrdamm:
Mine is very stable at 729Mhz using XGin 6.2.

I'm going to make some stress tests and see how further I can go.
[XPERIA X8 General] Neur0Nerd:
Some stress tests xD. Just test value per value, and if you reboot: don't go ahead.
[HTC Desire S] Guerde:
Is there any folder widget that looks like the folders of SPB Shell?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonen:
has anyone encountered problems with the long press of softkeys not working??

i haven't messed around with any hardware on my phone so i'm assuming it has something to do with software

ive only been running various versions of bionix for months now but whenever i try to hold the home button to bring up the recent apps / task manager button, i usually have to try a couple times before it recognizes what im trying to do instead of just going home
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trailblazerz11:
I had that problem when my soft key time out was set to low stock is 1600 ms but since you didn't mess with it..

A workaround, you could change your key layout. If you don't use search can change it to APP_SWITCH with root explorer in system/usr/keylayout/cypress-touchkey.kl
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
I just ordered the Atrix 4G in India through a popuplar newspaper...It will come with Android 2.2...

But my question is, how can I update it to (stock) Official Gingerbread 2.3.anything...

Any help...>??

THanx!
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueangel180:
Download the motorola update tool from the Atrix website
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sohoman:
You could also check the Motorola noobs guide; it covers how to unlock and root the phone, which will you be needing

I suggest installing a custom rooms which will work better than the stock version
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darklord790:
Atrix is not officially not launched in India. Where did you ordered the Atrix?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueangel180:
Indiatimes sells it for 18K
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tamilmad:
In all likelihood, it would already have GB 2.3.4. So do not worry.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
Indiatimes shopping.com

Exactly

It doesn't... :( NOw what do i do??
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crnkoj:
Is it an Att one? Use the sdcard update method from motorolas site
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] techiesam:
Try fruit cake method to update. Very simple way to update without any risk.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darklord790:
This phone must have been imported from countries like US or UK, just try find that there is any sign of operator name like At&t, t-Mobile or Orange etc., in the phone box, you can find it. If you find that only you can update your phone.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
AT&T is painted all over the damn thing...box,back,OS...yes,I will surely check the box and find out if it is eligible for an upgrade...thanx a lot...appreciate your help...

Sent from my Droid RaZr.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
Yep it is AT&T...and yes, am going to do it through the SD card method..however, my only question is how will the system readd the update files?? I have downloaded the 161mb or so file, but it is a .zip file...if i have to extract contents, where should i do it? internal or external mem card??

Thank you all for your replies...

Sent from my Droid RaZr.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueangel180:
Just use the automated update

http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Android_Products/ATRIX-4G_Software_Update_Page
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darklord790:
You need to that update file to SD Card only.

Check out this link, they have given step by step guide how to update your AT&T Motorola Atrix.

http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Atrix+Upgrade/Atrix-Gingerbread-Update
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
My fear, it might recognize the device as an AT&T and might lock it...i prefer doing it offline...like the SD card method...but thanks for your reply man...

Sent from my Droid RaZr.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueangel180:
The official update will relock the phone. Doesn't matter which method you use
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
You have scared me all the more man...anyone has counter claims to make against this one?? From what i have heard elsewhere, the update is a phone update...nothing to do with SIM card...

Sent from my Droid RaZr.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blueangel180:
Sim card? if you're referring to your network you'll still be able to use it after any of these updates.it wont lock the network.it will only lock the bootloader.

If you want to do it through the SD card method remember that you'll first have to update your phone to a newer version of froyo and then update once more to gingerbread. the automated version will save you the hassle.

And btw your warranty is a sellers warranty not manufacturers warranty.so i suggest you unlock the bootloader and install a custom rom, as it wont affect your warranty status.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] circleofomega:
I think there is some confusion and i am to be blamed...i have an AT&T phone, not sure if the bootloader is locked or not...I am in India and am using a GSM SIM card here. Now the phone is Froyo...i want a Gingerbread upgrade. I have discovered two ways, through Wifi and through the SD card...

I currently don't have Wifi...so am planning to go ahead with the SD card method.

+ my fear, if i update it through the wifi, my Network may get blocked again. Here was my actual conusion...but I think i will wait for a while...I am using a Froyo 2.2.2 currently...what is the next version until i get on board the Gingerbread??

Thanx again...

Sent from my Droid RaZr.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anupash:
I think you can use the Motorola update software from their website. It should be able to update your OS fine. I don't remember the name of their software but u can easily lookup for it.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sameerraees:
What happens after this?

Hey, Am planning to buy the Unlocked atrix 4g from Ebay USA and getting it shipped here in India. In the description, it tells that it'll come with Android 2.2 with laggy Moto Blur.

I just need you to tell me if you could that what happened to you trying to update with the method in this thread? Did you get the phone updated to gingerbread? Did it get locked back to AT&T or did it go through without any hassle?

Thanks in Advance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] C2Q:
Anyone go from a sgs2 to a nexus? How is it? I owned my SGS2 lte for about a week and sent it back due to a camera issue. I can choose to get the nexus now if I want to rather than a replacement SGS2 Lte.

Just looking at the features, all that really seems better is the HD screen. Worse camera, slightly worse cpu (1.2 vs 1.5 ghz), no sd card capability, and ICS is coming to the sgs2 eventually anyway. The nexus however is $50 cheaper for me than the sgs2.

Any ideas/opinions?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Laird_Attwood:
Came from European GSM SGSII (still have it) to the Nexus. Processor is the same @1.2 so not noticed much there.

Have the latest ICS port from Samsung on the SGSII at the moment but it's not as snappy as the Nexus. The camera is the only thing that I miss from the SGSII.

Never used the memory that I had on the SGSII so no biggy for me loosing SD support. If you are bothered 32GB GN are on the way.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] C2Q:
The CPU on the SGS2 lte/skyrocket says it's higher clocked than the one the nexus has. I was watching some videos of ics running on it. I don't know why but it looked quite laggy on the nexus for some reason.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Are you talking about the 1.5 ghz qualcomm cpu. I'll take a TI cpu clocked @ 1.2 over that one any day.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
Yea the qualcomms aren't my fav in this day and age.

While clocked at 1.5 it runs as fast as a 1-1.2ghz of another chipset.

Camera is hit and miss. The instant shutter is nice on the Nexus. I don't know if one is better then the other in terms of speed or power but the Nexus has a longer life and some neat tricks you can't find in other phones.

The screen, LED notification, and Google support are enough to sway my opinion.

LTE EX Galaxy Nexus - AOSP KANG

Asus Transformer - 3.2.1 OC/UV
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] C2Q:
Oh so whats the difference in cpu then? I thought they were the same with different clocks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Qualcomm is cortex a8 and just not as powerful. They usually undervolt well. That is all that is memorable about them. The nexus will have a longer lifespan with developers and Google updates if that means anything.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cordell507:
also in ICS qualcomm SoC will always be in last place as they use adreno gpu which is like night and day compared to the SGX in TI SoC and GPU acceleration is a large part of ICS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] C2Q:
I still am not too sure. don't know much about cpus. So is the one on the nexus better?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cordell507:
Yes, lower clock speed but better GPU performance which in ICS it will almost always win
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] specialistk:
I like the "stock vanilla" android look, so thats why i went with the nexus. I do prefer the physical shape of the sg2 a bit better though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] C2Q:
How is 720p video playback in youtube/media players. I have an HP touchpad and its laggy as hell for some odd reason for a tablet at youtube 720p.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bleach168:
It's excellent! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mwarrington1992:
I was wondering which one to go for, I get to upgrade a month today and I really want the best phone going. I think I'm going to get the nexus simply because its the more up to date phone. I'm quite surprised how slow these phone companies have been to release a phone that comes preinstalled with ics to out do the nexus. I can't find any new phones that are coming out soon!