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[About XDA developers] Logi_Ca1:
My suggestion:

First things first, we need skilled people to volunteer for this project. Electronic engineers, Graphic Designers, and software developers. Perhaps some lawyers too, to ensure that commercial companies don't steal the work of this group. Given the immense membership of XDA-Developers I think we will have enough people for the job.

2. A platform for them to collaborate.

3. Specifications: Perhaps the specifications should be decided upon from the start, going by the Waterfall model of software development. The community can vote on the specifications.

4. Design: Should a design be created first, and the internals created to fit or design? Or the other way round? Electronic engineers please enlighten me on this.

This project is very exciting, but will also hold a lot of challenges. Yet the open-source community has proven that it can do great things, examples like Cyanogenmod and the x264 encoder that constantly trounces commercial solutions.
[About XDA developers] mycamera:
I want to know what is the area the small phone will be.
[About XDA developers] luckymouse17:
wow epic idea :D

which OS it will running? android,bb,windows ?
[About XDA developers] Logi_Ca1:
Android, most likely. The source code is available. While we could license Windows Phone I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble.

On the other hand if we could come up with a monster design Microsoft may fund the project. :D

Ditto for Blackberry. Might as well try to get iOS. :p
[About XDA developers] lupohirp_jr:
It should be meego
[About XDA developers] AdamOutler:
Thought I might throw my 2 cents in here..

Why not ask Samsung to create a device? They quite literally do a much better job on their devices than any other manufacturer. Get them to use an OMAP processor and we want full schematics available.
[About XDA developers] :
http://www.geeksphone.com/en/

I'm just gonna leave this here...
[About XDA developers] scoffyburito:
I hope that was a joke, unless we have a big say it the production of it :)
[About XDA developers] The-Captain:
This sounds like the best idea right here...
[About XDA developers] pixdev:
Sounds good - I'm pretty good with graphics and HTML/PHP (that sort of stuff).
[About XDA developers] UPRV:
Ok lets do it!
[About XDA developers] don2012:
Let give you my opinion of specs

Ultra amouled hd 3d display

1.5/2 gb of ram

64 gb version

Multicore arm 8 procesoor

Mutilcore gpu

Gorilla glass 2

2300/+battery

Gorilla glass body back

Stainless steal

Ics 4.0.4

Camera 12/41 mp

Dual led flash

Name =XDA	NEXUS EXtreme©

Worlds most powrful phone

Thats my idea and copyright it mine ....

All that hardware is present i just need cash + people + 2+months

I have time little cash but no people

What do you say huh lets do it i am ready !!!! Its will be best phone created!!!! My idea!!

Lol

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[About XDA developers] don2012:
Plus google would allow it copyright issue will none after that!!!

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[About XDA developers] Logi_Ca1:
We need a project leader. Either someone with the qualifications and experience volunteer (you maybe) or we elect someone.

Thereafter, we do a recruitment run for skilled people.

Actually we should do a poll as to whether people here are actually interested in buying the phone. The more people buying, the cheaper the phone will be. No point going to all that effort if only 10 blokes and a dog are interested. :p
[About XDA developers] UPRV:
Right man!

We need someone who is representing us!

It should be someone who is speaking good englisch,who has many good ideas,who

can fight for us! ;):D

We do the "job",but the person who is representing us,has the only job to fight for our interests! :cool:

Thanks that I found some people who are interseted!

For the OS:

Dualboot or multiboot would be cool!

Only Android is boring,it must be something new (MeeGo,Ubuntu,Windows)

I think we will gave the phone an other name,because XDA is copyrighted to much!

Names:

Dev-Phone

XDA EXTREME (Copyrighted :()
[About XDA developers] don2012:
You can take permission form admins of xda and I can legally lead this project and yes no dual boot but multiboot xda extreme is a prefect name and after that It will be Xda extreme s ..... And so on !!

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[About XDA developers] pixdev:
Sounds good - multiboot of Android, Tizen (new Meego) and B2G (Mozilla's Boot2Gecko) would be fantastic! I'll try and post some concept work either today or tomorrow (just for fun :D)

EDIT:

Why don't we have another class of phone - still a dev phone but with reduced specs to make it a lot cheaper (eg smaller screen, less RAM etc.) If we do obtain XDA copyright permissions, we could call it something like the XDA Micro. Also, is the project going to be a not-for-profit one? If so, that will bring the RTM cost down significantly.
[About XDA developers] don2012:
We could call it xda mini but we are planning to only one phone which would be the best

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[About XDA developers] UPRV:
I want a huge screen!

4,5" or more!
[About XDA developers] AdamOutler:
XDA-Developers phone is a perfectly legal name. It's named after a community of 4,000,000+ people.

I could organize it, but taking on the financial responsiblity and marketing would be a pain in the butt!
[About XDA developers] don2012:
Agreed but is possible and if its successfull we will be rich only those who invest I can be cfo or such but I have June and July totally free we can start this **** what would be name of the company in future my idea is technotonics or such lol

Or it just could be called xda tech ... Ya that's perfect !! I would be doing all the coding and what type of hard ware we will use if every one agrees then we can start a thread for this and money collection and ideas although the specs have mentioned in my previous post is perfect !

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[About XDA developers] pixdev:
I've had an idea - it might not make us money (although we might be able to take a salary for our work) but it would guarantee funding and press coverage...

Why don't we try and partner with the Raspberry Pi foundation? Think about it - they mass produce small devices at an extremely low cost (so they already have the tools/robots to create PCBs), have an amazing relationship with the press (they were in every magazine/newspaper/tv news show on release date) and have very strong links with Broadcom (so we can get parts in the quantities we need).

If we take the standard RasPi board, boost up the specs (new processor, RAM &c) and add a large high-quality screen (to cover the size of the board - at least credit card size), production costs would be extremely low and we would get lots of press coverage (I can see it now - Foundation creates low-cost high-spec phone to encourage development).

The after-sales support/design would come from us lot here on XDA, whereas they put together the components. We could brand it something like the XDApi.
[About XDA developers] The El Guapo:
I'd buy it..but then again..I buy a lot of things I rarely use :rolleyes:
[About XDA developers] pixdev:
So..

So, I made a very crude mockup of the phone...

Apologies for the large size, I will that later. I particularly like the gesture pack - sweep left to go back, right to open menu/multitasking menu and hold to go home.
[About XDA developers] AdamOutler:
I dont think anything would be acceptable except AOSP for an initial release. After that... mod the fuxor out of it.
[About XDA developers] AdamOutler:
Please, if this goes into engineering, let me review the final contracts and specs. I dont know of anyone who has a better grasp on device maintainability than myself.
[About XDA developers] Logi_Ca1:
Like I said, hosting it on Kickstarter will help to alleviate the financial problems.

The problem is that you will need a working design first. And that means that until then, everyone involved will be working on a free, voluntary basis.

Which brings us to the point... How shall the phone be priced? I'm thinking that the price should be fixed to the cost price of the first batch, which will likely be the most expensive. After that, if manufacturing costs fall (as they likely will), the profit can be shared among the people involved.

I read that it costs Samsung around US$300 to make the Galaxy SII. And that's with their economy of scale, and they themselves making some of the parts (SAMOLED+ screen and CPU). I'm guessing that for us it may be around US$450. Still an acceptable price for an open, community phone with kickass specs.
[About XDA developers] pixdev:
True - on-screen buttons then?
[About XDA developers] Anonymous_:
Just FYI - there is 403 when accessing your image, so probably nobody (except you) can see it...

https://img.skitch.com/20120511-cwtw3fsedterx2gbjjqyxx35wp.jpg
[About XDA developers] UPRV:
We need a Sponsor
[About XDA developers] Chutesta:
Good luck guys :>
[About XDA developers] don2012:
Agreed

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[About XDA developers] pixdev:
Yes - I still think we should team up with the Raspberry Pi Foundation :-)

I'll fix the image when I get home later.
[About XDA developers] UPRV:
Best idea,but we need the ok from the admins.
[About XDA developers] pixdev:
Should I email them?
[About XDA developers] UPRV:
Yes,thank you!
[About XDA developers] pixdev:
Before I do, can we check the interest in this project? Put up a poll or something like that :-)
[About XDA developers] matt4321:
The problem is getting into market, we have plenty of people round XDA with loads of skills in building the ROM, thinking of features and physically producing it. The issue is where to sell it essentially. As people have been saying we need a sponsor, without that no one will know of it another than us and even still we need to get it to the shops which will cost a lot.

It is perfectly doable, a sponsor though (raspberry pi guys, excellent idea whoever thought of them) if we can get there backing I think this would take off
[About XDA developers] Logi_Ca1:
The phone needs to have a description of what the phone is supposed to be like.

lololol, one question, what do you want from the phone?

1. Kickass specs, expensive as well

2. Middle-end

3. Budget phone

Of course, open-ness will apply to all 3 as well, since it won't be an XDA Developers phone if it wasn't.
[About XDA developers] E:V:A:
I'm in!!

Designing a phone just doesn't seem very difficult after having stared at the SGS2 PCB, for well over 2 months. The greatest obstacle is to get the manufacturers to release the specification sheets and whatever other secrets they sit on, so that we can start designing!

The most problematic is of course getting all the necessary radio pieces together...
[About XDA developers] don2012:
my opinion of specs

Ultra amouled hd 3d display

1.5/2 gb of ram

64 gb version

Multicore 6-8 cores arm 8 procesoor

Mutilcore gpu

Gorilla glass 2

2300/+battery

Gorilla glass body back

Stainless steal

Ics 4.0.4

Camera 12/41 mp

Dual led flash

Name =XDA	NEXUS EXtreme©

Worlds most powrful phone

Thats my idea and copyright it mine ....

All that hardware is present i just need cash + people + 2+months

I have time little cash but no people

What do you say huh lets do it i am ready !!!! Its will be best phone created!!!! My idea!!

Lol

I am and where would be base ???? Dubai ??

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[About XDA developers] 4ktvs:
Some are good ideas and some I don't think will work, but that's just me.
[About XDA developers] UPRV:
This is to expensive!

Who I would be with something more realistic:

Snapdragon v4 (Quadcore)

Andreno 320

8-12MP Camera (with LED)

2 MP front Camera

8GB,16GB,32GB or 64 GB Space

1GB RAM (a bit mor like:1265 MB RAM)

Android 4.0.4

Price could be under 550$^^
[About XDA developers] scottspa74:
This is a great idea/project. I'd buy one if not more than 400$. They sell the galaxy nexus in the Google market. That's an idea.

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[About XDA developers] 4ktvs:
I think you could do 2GB of ram.

I do think your idea's are more realistic. The issue with the ram is you have to go with what you can get your hands on and I am not sure were you are going to find 1.265Gb of ram.

If you want it to be under 550 then 64GB would be out. I think the hardest part of all this would be getting the screen's. I would like it to be a 720P oled + screen, but I know that would not fly with samsung and the cost would be too high.
[About XDA developers] don2012:
Its not supposed to be cheap it need all the features I mentioned to make it best phone ever and processor would not be snapdragon cause is sucks best is exynos custom it will have that ram will be 2gb .. Etc.

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[About XDA developers] Griffrez:
What the hell is wrong with you people? A XDA Phone or whatever it might would be about developing (*cough* XDA-_developers_ *cough*), therefore you need the best to DEVELOP, like the Nexus line. Not a full closed source processor like the Exynos, for example.

What I mean is: It's not about a super OMG I GOT 100000000 Quadrant score phone. It's a about an average phone, that can be used for developing, and then turned into a OMG I GOT 1000000000000000 QUADRANT score phone, and not only efficient in benchmarks.

Sorry for the slight spam.
[About XDA developers] UPRV:
We must stay realistic!

You are right we can't make the world best smartphone!

But we can create a phone for geneartions of Android.

I don't want to wait for updates,because the XDA Devs have the full acess to the phone,so developing will be easier.
[About XDA developers] galaxys2Tav:
Love the idea but you have got to think along the lines of what's out and what's coming out. What people would buy and what people don't.

I know a lot of people that are oblivious to what for example touchwiz or even a processor is! Everyone needs to think about selling them to more than just devs and the odd noob and think how can we get people to actually no that this phone is for them and why u should choose this over an iPhone as a lot of people buy the iPhone in my area coz the get roped in to there propaganda .

in all seriousness I would 100% buy one, so if you do finally agree on what's happening please release it in the uk ;)

P.s

quad core or higher

Android 4.0+

Gorilla glass

4+ inch screen

720p

No 3D!

16gb or 32gb

Nice £400 price tag in the UK just with that so fare
[About XDA developers] pixdev:
I still think we should create a proper developer phone - sure, not the best specs in the world, but cheap enough for people to buy and use as a phone for developing.

That said, I think we should aim to have the best specification possible (future proof) on a budget - ideally under $300 (£186 here in the UK). That would get a lot more people working on the device - obviously we are intending to follow AOSP for releases (no UI tweaks - devs can do that later).
[About XDA developers] galaxys2Tav:
I agree but if there were I.e an EXtreme or a budget would be better also
[About XDA developers] don2012:
ok no eyxnos then snapdragon the ui will have a touch of sense blink of touchwiz and base of pure Google experience its supposed to be a high end device !!

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[About XDA developers] DarkhShadow:
Lol you would never get permission from HTC or Samsung to use sense or touchwiz, also anything other than a AOSP phone would be a very bad choice......

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[About XDA developers] UPRV:
AOSP works every where :P
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
Yup AOSP would have to be the case. And then a place to get the Google apps as they would not be allowed to be included.
[About XDA developers] DarkhShadow:
Unless you paid Google, which blows

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[About XDA developers] UPRV:
Right...

Maybe we can make a deal with google :o
[About XDA developers] don2012:
we can make our own ui with a touch of those other ui's

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[About XDA developers] UPRV:
Thinked that before!
[About XDA developers] Logi_Ca1:
That should be the last priority. The first priorities should be actual design of the hardware, sourcing for components (these two should probably happen at the same time), porting AOSP to the new phone, and finding a manufacturer. There will be plenty in China happy to do it, but finding one that won't steal your design will be hard. Probably the only one I can think that is good is Foxconn.

Once all these is sorted out then you can talk about a new UI.
[About XDA developers] mfsr98:
it's cheap for 10000 of them

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I think it shoudn't be more than 350€
[About XDA developers] UPRV:
Qualcomm is better!
[About XDA developers] DarkhShadow:
You wouldn't be able to use ANY parts of there UI's without permission

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[About XDA developers] myawan:
I know a lot of companies in china who are making android phones and you can order in bulk for your brand, they have got designs and everything else setup. Just suggest them your desired alterations and specifications , they'll make it for you.

In my opinion that is the most cost effective and viable solution to our dreams.
[About XDA developers] don2012:
I don't say that we will steal parts we would take idea!!!

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[About XDA developers] UPRV:
This is the best option!

What the others think?
[About XDA developers] don2012:
good

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[About XDA developers] UPRV:
Design?
[About XDA developers] mido hamdy:
of course , i hope there will be an XDA Phone .
[About XDA developers] Logi_Ca1:
Depends on whether we can get access to all the source codes like with the Nexus phones. No point doing that if the developers have to reverse engineer all the drivers. :mad:
[About XDA developers] Logi_Ca1:
Why not the RK3066? The RK2918 is a single core A8. It will be outdated right out the door.

Now I know this isn't really a specs race, it's more of a developers phone, but the specs has to be decent as well.

Also, 150 Euros is for the Turnkey phone?
[About XDA developers] don2012:
not single core

not dual core

not quad core

yes multicore 6-8 cores the worlds most powerful phone arm9/etc

yes its possible multicore processors are made and

ultra amouled hd 1080p display not 720p like in s3 or gnex.

I just want to make the phone last up to atleast 2+ years and these specs ..... sooner or later it will come in news ... xda tech produces the worlds first multicore processor phone ...yep I found a good and a very thin battery featuring 3200mah enough ... I can start this then I can send a sample piece to one of the Chinese companies to produce first 100,000 pieces......but first thing is first we need a sponsor .....

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[About XDA developers] Logi_Ca1:
I'm not sure if you are serious or trolling.

FYI there is are plenty of multi-core phones out already. Unless your definition of multi-core is different.

For some reason, I have a feeling you are from China. Are you talking about this processor?

http://vr-zone.com/articles/icube-upu-the-next-step-in-processor-evolution-/14518.html

Actually, other than ARM, it might be interesting to consider other CPU architectures, like MIPS with their new Aptiv CPU series.

MIPS is interesting because they claim to have the same processing power as ARM, but with lesser power consumption. They also have their own implementation of Dalvik, Turbo Dalvik.

However I'm guessing that most people would rather the XDA phone stick with ARM for compatibility reasons.

As for the screen, is there a good reason to go with 1080p? It will naturally be more expensive than a 720p screen. You will need a more powerful GPU to drive it. I'm seriously having a hard to deciding if you are trolling or it's just that your English is bad.
[About XDA developers] CyanFabo:
Are you hallucinating? :D
[About XDA developers] UPRV:
How it seems with permissions?

Any feedback?

Stay low man,this cost more then 1000€ :p
[About XDA developers] don2012:
hahahhah no I wasn't actually I was in a hurry before nope I am not joking ... its true . nope I am not Chinese !! I from the middle east ... anyways no that processor is different and is poor the one I am talking about is nearly worth 69$+ lol and if you want to make a best in class phone you need to make It expense and yes we will stick to arm yes they have made (ultra thin max powered mutlicore featuring 8 cores) they have designed and tested but no company is requiring it so its ...kept their . what more ? we I was right we just need a good sponsor the work of the design we nearly take 2-3 months and would be open to recommendations etc. the phone will be fully open source such as boot loader etc and lolololololol what's your age ???????????

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[About XDA developers] don2012:
yes gpu will be quad core or above don't worry !!! 1080p waiting and just like the Samsung event we will have oUr own ...... very very very serious !

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[About XDA developers] DarkhShadow:
You know the difference between 720p and 1080p on a phone screen will be microscopic right?

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[About XDA developers] don2012:
actually no the difference will be like 40% better !! and sharper etc ...

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[About XDA developers] DarkhShadow:
I don't notice the difference on some games on a 17" screen, let alone a 4-5" one

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[About XDA developers] pixdev:
I know I've said something very similar to this before, but hey - remember this is a phone for developing. We don't need a 1080p screen or the like - although it would be nice, the cost price would be prohibitive and we could spend the money better elsewhere!

Stick to using parts with open, easy to maintain drivers and AOSP (no custom UIs for launch - they take time to port after every system update) and this project will be awesome!

I still haven't emailed Raspberry Pi - should I email them or are we going to use an OEM? Huawei (although not technically an OEM anymore) seems like a good bet to me (especially looking at the spec/price ratio of the Ascend G300).

In other news, I like the new poll ;)
[About XDA developers] don2012:
It will be a king phone and needs to be high end so later on othr ui etc can be ported to it like sense 4
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
This device if done will not see a Sense 4 option due to sense needing the HTC drivers and framework files that this device will not have
[About XDA developers] Nigeldg:
OK, so I've read the first 3 pages and the last page of this thread, and I swear it all ultimately boils down to an updated HD2?

Plus, with the recent breakthrough in enabling HWA on ICS on the HD2 it's still pretty damn competitive as a phone. Plus the fact that it runs WinMo, WP7, Android, MeeGo, Ubunto, Windows 95 (I think) means that I don't see what more you really need with a phone.
[About XDA developers] don2012:
wrong othr drivers will work !!
[About XDA developers] zelendel:
Many people have tried to port it to a non-HTC device and something always remains broken. Not one port is complete or full due to incompatibility.
[About XDA developers] don2012:
Dont worry we will select hardware like onex so that porting be easy !!
[About XDA developers] CyanFabo:
The idea is great but you need a lot of money to realize it.

Create a concept and make a donate calling on Kickstarter and in the forum if the Admins allow it.

I think that the most important is the Design of the XDA Smartphone.