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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LionAR10:
You're right, $15 is too expensive for provider hopping. My understanding, based on some anecdotal evidence on HoFo, is that the SIM can be reused still between 30 and 90 days after the expiration of your last payment. So best bet is that you can renew it after a month of being "off".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ogp:
Just as an FYI....

I haven't spoken with T-Mobile to disable voice mail on my prepaid number but a few more days after my port and Google Voice is working natively for my Google Voice number that I have forwarding to my T-Mobile prepaid number.

For those using GrooVe IP, how do I get it to be the primary dialer when connected? Currently when it is signed in and connected, incoming calls get directed to BOTH GrooVe IP and the native dialer. I'd like it to ONLY go to GrooVe IP.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
It has to be in the settings of GrooveIP somewhere. Just look around for it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
It's easy to make GrooveIP the default dialer for placing calls. I don't think it's possible to make it the default for receiving calls - since your phone is (at that point) really two phones, each being rung by Google Voice.

There is a Google Voice Settings plugin for Tasker/Locale that can toggle what phones ring when someone dials your GV number. I've got it set up so that when I'm connected to Wifi, calls only ring GrooveIP; once I leave Wifi, it switches to ringing just my real number. Makes for a pretty nice workaround.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
That's handled from your google.com/voice settings. You have to tell it to stop ringing your phone and just ring "Google Chat". Right now its ringing both and that's why you're seeing this behavior. It has nothing to do with GrooVe IP. GrooVe IP just takes in any calls to Google Chat and forwards them to the app on the phone rather then letting your computer ring.

You can't make it a "default dialer" for incoming calls... because you want your other dialer to ring when someone calls the carrier #, and the GrooVe IP dialer to ring when someone calls Google Voice #.

You can set it up to ask every time or dial with GrooVe IP every time through the settings. But that's for outgoing.

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Very interesting option. Thanks. I'm usually just having GMail ring on my laptop whenever I'm on WiFi so I effectively do the same thing.

How have you found the GrooVe IP call quality? I could never get it to be consistent enough for me to rely on it... a bit better with Talkatone, but still not great.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
It's good enough for me, for the most part. It's definitely highly dependent upon the quality of the network you're connected to. If a call isn't good enough, I just hang up and call back on the cell network. Works for me!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blaine07:
Sorry, I can't sift through all the pages but does the GSM Gnex use regular sim card or microsim like Verizon version?

Thank you!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Standard/Regular (technically "Mini") SIM cards. Or a Micro SIM with an adapter (if AT&T gives you a micro SIM).

You can see in any pic/video where they take the cover off. Clearly Standard SIM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ogp:
Yes, I was talking about incoming. I've got it set as the default dialer for outgoing, that setting was fairly obvious.

This makes sense regarding the incoming calls being directed to both dialers since my Google Voice account is set up to forward calls to both Google Chat and my carrier #. I can't disable the carrier # forwarding because I'm using my Google Voice number as my primary number and consider my carrier # to be "throwaway".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
If your carrier number is a throwaway (as is mine - I don't even know what it is off the top of my head) then it makes perfect sense to disable forwarding to it when you have a solid VoIP connection through GrooveIP.

On that subject, I really wish there was a way to block all calls and texts made to my carrier number directly but still receive those forwarded from GV. Wouldn't that be sweet? :-D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ogp:
Yes, but is there a way to do it automatically? So I don't have to log in to Google Voice (on my pc) and untick it everytime? And then remember to change it back when I leave?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
LocaleGoogleVoicePlugin is the name of the Tasker plugin I use.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ogp:
Nice. I guess I didn't realize it did that for you....

So I guess my next question is Tasker or Locale? Is one better than the other?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Personally, I use Tasker. I've never used Locale, but my understanding is that it is maybe more user-friendly than Tasker, while Tasker is more flexible and configurable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mototireguy:
Good Info!

Great thread, great info. Thanks.

I've been using Google Voice (awesome product) for a few years but I don't fully depend or utilize all its features.

One of the places where GV was very useful was when overseas in Asia. Using local cheap SIM cards and basic EDGE data I was able to send/rcv unlimited free sms text messages via GV with friends just like I was at home.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] filthyhandbag:
Thanks for this treasure trove of info!

This thread is a wonderful resource. I'm looking at the $30 5gb T-Mobile plan for my soon-to-be-arriving GNex. But I still have one point of probably embarrassingly simple confusion over the T-Mobile SIM. Is there a particular reason it has to come from walmart, a T-Mobile store or ebay? Or will the $2 'SIM Card activation kit' in the prepaid section of T-mobile's website do? (As a new user I can't link to it.)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
The one from t-mobile's Site should do nicely.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChadXDA:
Just wonder Galaxy Nexus owners only, if any of you are on the Unlimited Talk, Text and Web GoPhone Plan? If so what type of speed are you getting?

Same for just GN users on tmobile prepaid.

Because I know for a fact on Straighttalk my wife and daughter get better speeds on there skyrocket than I do on my GN. We have the att sims. But att prepaid has different apn setting that might work better on GN.

Chad
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jlczl:
I'm on that plan and I'm getting an average of 3 to 5 Mbps on my SGN.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChadXDA:
TMobile I take it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
The Skyrocket is LTE; the (GSM) GNex is not. LTE will definitely see faster speeds than HSPA+.

For the record, I seem to average 5-7Mbps downlink on T-Mobile prepaid.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jlczl:
No. The Unlimited Talk, Text, and Data GoPhone Plan is an at&t plan.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChadXDA:
Yea I know I was just thinking you had tmobile since it's below your avatar.

Chad
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I live in germany and personnaly think that I made a pretty good deal. With my provider I get for 17 € (around 22 USD) 200 free SMS 200 free minutes and 200 MB high-speed data (after 200 mb it gets capped to gprs speeds).

If I would want to get the same on T-Mobile I would need to pay around 35 € (over 40 USD I think).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jlczl:
Sorry about that. I have both.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alnova1:
The way I do it is to go online to your Google voice settings and un-check your T-Mobile number and then it will only ring to groove IP.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JosepiOT:
Great info, been hawking around with the idea since I saw the deal (30/mo) on SD back in dec/jan :)

Finally got around to using the activation kit I ordered (tmo website had a sale for like 2.99) two nights ago. Everything took, no issues at all.

Already utilizing built in sip support/pbxes for GV calls in/out via data; works just dandy.

There's nothing wrong with grooveIP, it would just take too long to reregister connections and would occasionally drop conn; sipdroid app would clip the inbound audio unless the screen was always on, but the native sip support works well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
That's the exact kit you should use. An activation kit is required. And it is pre loaded with $$.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus i9250
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
5-9mbps down / 1-4mbps up. Really depending on area and load of course. That's on the $30 T-Mobile plan.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus i9250
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bcbrett:
Warranty

Just a quick semi on topic question regarding the whole nice phone with prepaid service setup. I am all for the newest and greatest phones out there with an affordable service that you can dump any time, and when you do the numbers you more than make up for the high phone price well before your contract would have been up. But where does the phone go when it breaks?? for instance, my wifes 2 week old verizon gnex just up and wouldn't work as a phone, I suppose it worked, just you couldn't hear the caller and they couldnt hear you unless you were on speaker phone or blue tooth. We just walked into verizon and in 5 mins another phone was mailed to our house and we swapped it out. Is there some sort of insurance you would all suggest or does the mfg warranty work just as good as verizons or sprints? I think this is the last thing holding me from dumping sprint as soon as my contract is up.

Thanks for any ideas,

B
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
You can (almost) always get 3rd party insurance if you're interested in that. But if you want to just rely on the manufacturer warranty then you have that too. You really need to choose your importer carefully and make sure that they'll be willing to help you facilitate an exchange. This is required because when the phone isn't sold directly in the states, the manufacturer isn't under any obligation to honor the warranty directly. Most of the major importers will do this for you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] k-sider:
When you use google voice as your primary number, do you simply have to use the GV app and then "Dial using Google Voice" to set your outgoing number to GV? Then the incoming calls will be forwarded to your generic cell number and texting is done through the GV app?

I'm hoping that is all that is necessary to use Google voice. Can anyone clarify?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JCreazy:
I am having consistent data with Straight Talk all day every day. My only issue is that I can't recieve MMS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bfroehlich:
That's exactly how it works. At least that's how my setup is.

The beauty is that if your provider sucks you just switch and keep moving. No downtime. No ETFs. No BS!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
You place calls through the regular "Phone" app. There's a setting in the Google Voice app to choose the behavior (I've attached a screenshot of the settings menu):

.... when you dial out a number (attached a screenshot of the popup when you dial):

I have it ask every time because sometimes I do want to use my carrier #. Incoming call settings are handled from google.com/voice, and you can set it up so that all calls to your Google Voice # are forwarded to any number of devices, or just your phone. You can also place/receive calls through GMail on your PC.

Hope I clarified it for you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] k-sider:
Thanks guys, I was hoping it was as simple as that...

Trouble is now my number is on Straight Talk.... and I need to get it over to GV... think I have to port over to ATT go phone to get a GV port.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] x.Orville.x:
any one have the mms works with the nexus on straight talk ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bfroehlich:
MMS works fine for me. Anyone have problems?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Certainly an APN problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aiinjylls:
Double Post Sorry
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aiinjylls:
MMS working fine here
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=48622378&postcount=2912

Anyone have any more idea on this? Talking about it in the $30 Prepaid specific thread too. Looks like starting March 31st, they'll start throttling the $30 plan at 100mb for new subscribers. Apparently people who sign up before that are grandfathered in.

If this is true, then it would be a good idea to grab this in the next couple days. Its probably too late to order from T-Mo as it'll be here after the 31st, you'd have to buy a burner from Walmart.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JCreazy:
That is what I thought with my Inpsire but I still can't recieve MMS, I can send them just fine though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] k-sider:
That is ridiculous if true... as of right now it is 5 gb at 4g speeds and then throttled... but to drop it all the way down to 100 mb at 4g speeds? Would it be Edge speeds after that?

I just ordered my sim last night... If there is any confirmation that this rumor is true someone please post it up here... I'll be staying with Straight Talk if that is the case.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
They throttle you to EDGE-like speeds right now. That's their throttling policy.

Well if you get it set up before the 31st then you'll be grandfathered in I guess. Still awaiting confirmation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ogp:
The T-Mobile site doesn't make any mention of this being a promotion ending soon....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] x.Orville.x:
u have the apn for it thanks

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some one can post the apn to get mms work thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I found this by searching "straight talk apn" on Google. Does it help?

APN:	att.mvno
Proxy:	n/a
Port:	80
Username:	n/a
Password:	n/a
Server:	n/a
MMSC:	http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy:	proxy.mvno.tracfone.com
MMS Port:	80
MCC:	410
Authentication type:	n/a
APN type:	internet+mms
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Well obviously lol. Prepaid isn't as clear on the terms... it just seems to be a rumor right now. And we'll see what happens in a few days. This $30 plan has always been an "online only" or "walmart only" kind of plan so its bound to change.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bfroehlich:
I just left the proxy lines empty and I've had no problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] x.Orville.x:
thanks but not working to mms to me to rare need to empty the proxy lines ???
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BenKranged:
Does anyone offer unlimited voice and mms with no data at all?

:edit: limited voice minutes with unlimited messaging would be ok as well
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
While I'm not sure what you'd do with that.... you could go with the $30 Walmart T-Mobile prepaid plan. That has 100 minutes, unlim text, and 5gb of data. You wouldn't need the data but if you're actually okay with (severely) limited minutes its the cheapest.

If you actually need tons of minutes / text and no data, you could just go with the Straight Talk $45 plan. Just don't use the data...

Still not understanding why you'd want a phone like this with no data plan, when

the plans with data are just so damn cheap

.

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Also thought I'd share really quick that I helped my brother cancel his AT&T service today! After talking to him about it for a while, telling him how great it has been for me over the last 2 months, he decided to make it happen. He has an iPhone 3GS right now (which he bought right when it came out), which is out of contract and he was paying about $110 for service. I had him go with Straight Talk as its a solid plan and he won't need more than 2gb data. He ordered the SIM/Refill combined for $60 online. He called AT&T and it was hilarious the crazy **** they said to him like "I hope you know what you're doing" and "...you do realize that Verizon and AT&T are the only carriers who can offer the 'iPhone services'.". What a crazy crock of **** these CS reps are told to feed to customers. He held strong and didn't give in to any of their stuff. A few minutes later he was cancelled, and he'll be getting them to unlock his iPhone in the coming weeks (his account won't end till the 21st of April unfortunately), and he's excited to move to Straight Talk.

Thought I'd give you a good story. He's definitely not a super technical person, but he trusts my judgement (bad call usually :p) and decided to go all the way!

Oh and a quick question: do you guys who went from AT&T (or another carrier) to Straight Talk have any pointers on the easiest way for him to port his number? Just call in and ask them to do it? Should he call AT&T or ST?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thebobp:
Another t-mobile option is $30 for 1500 (minutes+smses) [and 30mb data, which is pitiful but you aren't using]. Assuming you aren't spamming your calls/smses, that should be enough.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
I think porting is usually handled by the carrier you are porting to - just don't do it until the very end of service with AT&T.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dongtuson:
I want to ask you the combo (Rom + kernel) which use the best?. thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rubiconjp:
I ported my girlfriend's (still under contract) T-Mobile number to ST using ST's website. Make sure he has his AT&T account number and the PIN to that account. Fill in his AT&T phone number, account number and PIN in ST's page and it should be ported over in minutes. It was about 3-5 minutes for us. Once ported, I tried logging into her T-Mo's account and it said account has been cancelled.

Don't cancel the AT&T account yet. Once cancelled, number can no longer be ported.

BTW, I still have problem convincing families to go to ST. Prepaid, especially with MVNO's, still has that bad connotation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Thanks.

Thanks. Well He's cancelled his AT&T but it won't end till April 21st, because they make you wait till the last day of a month of service.

I'll let him know that he should activate ST a few days early and port his number from AT&T.

Yeah its tough. Took me quite a few times talking about it to convince him. He's a smart guy, figured it out. I explained to another very non-techie friend with an iPhone 4 what my brother and I had did, and she goes "... so what's the catch?", I said "there is no catch, AT&T just severely overcharges".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Tossing out an update on the $30 Walmart T-Mobile plan. A Walmart employee took some pictures of the

new

marketing materials and endcaps they just received on the Monthly 4G plans.

It still shows the $50 plan as 100mb throttle, and the $30 plan as a 5gb throttle.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1366927&page=34

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24155435&postcount=336
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cabal_:
There's really no reason to talk to the provider you're leaving (and as he found out, you usually just end up being given a lot of crap). Activate with a number port when it's safe to do so (i.e. no ETF), and the old provider will automatically close your account. Since they usually assume you've started a new 2-year contract elsewhere, they don't even bother trying to win you back.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Happy to help. If you need anything else drop a line.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Karakoram2:
How to tell an international from verizon branded? I know somebody must have asked before. But, there is one in front of me right now. No vz branding, but it looks dif from the international I had before. Tmobile sim works. Guys calling it a prime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
Verizon branded would have Verizon branding on it. And an LTE modem. And your GSM SIM card wouldn't work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LionAR10:
Thank you for looking into this ... this is my "I need a modem for a month" plan, and I have a couple events where I need just data on my Nexus S (with wifi AP) in the next month ...

Glad to know it's still there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thebobp:
Watch out though, the $30 plan can be notoriously hard to get, cause everyone thinks the other person is providing it. It took a good week of calls to get mine, though I think I was unlucky.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aldo37:
Notoriously hard? Go to the prepaid website, make an account and pick the $30 plan. It's very easy to get.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Yep, he confirmed again with the T-Mobile Rep that came into the store yesterday/today. All is holding strong at 5GB for the foreseeable future.

Not hard at all. Buy a SIM from T-Mobile directly online, activate online, fill online, you're done.

Yep!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] urinsane:
I took the plunge. Just bought a Galaxy Nexus through eBay daily deals for $480 shipped, got double eBay bucks so it really will end up being $460.

I had bought a T-Mobile sim a few weeks ago; activated the $30 plan tonight in an old phone as I hadn't read that it was confirmed to stick around.

My sprint plan cycles on the 16th so I'm going to pay the ETF (ouch) and start owning my service. Assuming the $30 plan works for me, and that I can get at least $250 for my Epic 4g Touch, I should break even by December (current plan is around $90/mo).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ogp:
Using my ported number on Google Voice, where do the numbers used for incoming text messages come from? They certainly aren't the numbers of the peoples' phones. Does Google just use a bunch of random numbers to forward them?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] codesplice:
In short, yes. They're generally random, though I believe GVoice will (effectively) assign each number to one of your contacts, so that replying to texts from that number (or even calling it) will get to the right person. I haven't tested if the forwarding numbers are active indefinitely, or if they "expire" after a certain measure of time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Its a little wonky. If I were you I'd just use the Google Voice app for SMS. Its been updated and is REALLY nice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] urinsane:
I'm wondering if anyone has found a good guide to setting up a more advanced SIP system to work with android. Let me qualify that by saying I'm looking for something beyond a basic setup where you just enter in the account info and go. I need more info on using it with a DID, PBX, call forwarding, etc.

I ask as if no such resource exists, I would like to research and put up a site with the info. While GrooveIP works, the bandwidth requirements are higher than other solutions. For example, VOIP.ms offers codecs that work with as little as 30kb/sec whereas Google Voice apparently needs 80-100.

Skype is an option with lower bandwidth requirements but I have read that the other providers can do the same things for less money, and allow much more configuration.

Part of my need for this is that I am in Hawaii, and google voice does not allow 808 area codes to be ported or activated as new numbers. Hawaii residents and businesses view mainland area codes as outsiders, so for business it is essential to have the right area code. So I would need an 808 number, that can forward to a mainland google voice number to ring my SIP phone (and prepaid number as well I suppose.)

Sorry this is a little off topic for the thread, but if anyone can point me in the right direction I'll throw up a guide for those looking for more options.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JCreazy:
W00T! I finally figured out why I wasn't receiving MMS. I am so happy. This thread makes me happy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Care to share for the benefit of the group?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JCreazy:
My specific problem is probably rare but I will let everyone know. My issue is that I could send MMS bbut not receive them. After doing some research I found that the SMS apps like handcent use the stock messenger app to handle MMS. I had frozen my MMS app with Titanium Backup as I didn't need it and I wasn't using it. Apparently doing this gave me issues so I unfroze it and everything seemed to be working.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JCreazy:
Just in case anyone is interested, new egg is selling the GSM galaxy nexus for $450