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[P3400 ROM Development] harry_01:
masters plz help me big problem My HTC Gene P3400

My HTC gene dead scuk bootloader then i repair bootloader Jtag and flash Dump full flash with Jtag

now MY HTC INfo

1.7.411.0 RUS

02/06/07

02.71.90

4.1.13.31

1.7.411.101

this is rusian veriosn when i flash wwe version my dead gene dead

RUU_Gene_hTC_Asia_India_1.17.720.1_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship

RUU_Gene_hTC_Asia_India_1.17.720.1_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship_ABdie new gene

RUU_Gene_HTC_PTG_1.7.410.0_4.1.13.38_02.84.90_Ship_R_ABdie

RUU_Gene_HTC_WWE_1.7.405.0_4.1.13.31_02.71.90_Ship_ABdie

i have this file also unlock cid

which file i flash b'coz now My htc gene searching network

plz help me
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NoobWithWildfire:
Solved: The error didn't matter, After running step2.bat, everything wenk okay!

Hi,

I have a HTC Wilfire

Details:

HTC Wildfire A3333

Carrier banded: Bouygues Telecom (french)

Firware: Android 2.2.1

HBOOT 1.01.0002

I tried to follow this guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1145035

But I'm stuck at the first step, downgrading HBOOT

When I run script "step1.bat" in admin mode, I get the following message:

mmap() operation not permitted

It's because of the line tring to get temproot:

adb shell /data/local/psneuter

I'm on USB debugging mode, charge only and HTC Sync uninstalled.

Any idea?

PS: I did the step after this one, I'm blocked just beaucause Revotionnary don't suppor HBOOT 1.01.0002
[Windows Phone 7 General] FinancialWar:
Defenders of WP7 always emphasis on smoothness without fail, it's like the only point WP7 fan boys can come up with.

But what is the point of smoothness when your phone don't have some of the basic and necessary functions Android have.
[Windows Phone 7 General] shamreez:
well if you dont want smoothness and fast responses..

Just customization and hoards of functionalities you are welcome to use the Windows 6.5
[Windows Phone 7 General] Mark_QS:
Indeed WP7 doesn't have some basic functionalities, but is easy to use with fast response as you mentioned. Every fanboy of any brand tries to overdraw. Don't start a flame war :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] FinancialWar:
Fail, why would I want to use Windows Mobile 6.5 when I have Android 4.0?
[Windows Phone 7 General] FinancialWar:
Not trying to start a war, I am trying to understand why all the emphasis of smoothness at the expense of functionality in WP7?
[Windows Phone 7 General] shamreez:
Double fail why do you want to go to a new OS called Android when there is already windows 6.5 which can do everything an android can :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] Marvin_S:
The big question is, does one really "need" those functions and is willing to compensate for it by using a less coherent system, apps that can crash your phone, random reboots, can leak your personal belongings, and all other things.

The answer for some people is yes --> android. For some people its no --> windows phone. I for example care about design and thats the no.1 reason why I dont like android, because it does not have a design and looks too childish/nerdo for my taste. I trade less but usefull features for some eye candy any day, because I use my phone everyday so I stare at the menu's a whole lot in the years I use my phone. And what am I truely missing? Just Skype... And this will be even integrated into the OS. And a notification system, I bet this will come in Apollo. Like last year we will probably get a beta in a few months, so I am very satisfied, because the beta's were actually perfectly suitable for daily use.

At least I dont have to worry about random reboots and dont have to witness the laggy scrolling trough the marketplace like my friends with the GS2... The whole response/bounce and kinetic scrolling of WP7 is far more natural than android. Sure they have more useless apps and they have skype and some games, but I never play games. And for customizations, its android it remains unpleasant to look at.

Other than that it is a matter of personal preferences, a friend told me android has "no bugs". Its like yeah whatever, people are entitled to their opinions and thats why we all have something to chose from which suits our needs.

You android, we WP, is android perfect? No, far from it. Is WP perfect? No far from it. However what is the most perfect choice for you is what matters and you made yours. I made mine, and Im happy and dont have to post in an android forum why their phones all have cheap looking menu's. Every time I touch my phone its a joy to use, no frustrations, now annoyances.
[Windows Phone 7 General] xHausx:
I'm not one to shy away from a good debate, but please keep it respectful here. Threads comparing Android and WP7 usually degenerate fairly quickly, so I just wanted to remind everyone not to turn this discussion against someone personally.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the way you present it can make a huge difference in how others perceive it.

edit: As for the question though, aesthetics are very important to a lot of people. The occasional stuttering of Android can almost be painful to someone if they're not accustomed to it, yet others may be able to get used to it quickly and are able to over look it for everything else the OS provides. IMHO Android still has a ways to go before it's intuitive and user friendly enough to be adopted by a lot of people in the market for smartphones, plus a lot of people don't have the time that's needed to learn how to use it efficiently. It seems like Microsoft is trying to find the middle ground between the aesthetics of iOS and the versatility of Android & Win mobile.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
It depends on how basic and necessary those functions are to you.

For example:

1) bluetooth file sharing isn't a necessary function to me, i might have used it twice in a year when i was on Android;

2) being able to play every kind of unconverted video format isn't important to me because i hardly ever watch movies on the go, i've had the GS2 for 5 months and i might have done that once, just to give it a try;

3) being able to play FLAC music files on my phone is something i don't care about because a real audiophile would never use the phone as a main music player because of the cheap DACs used by OEMs; even lossy mp3 files are a waste on some of those if you have good ears.

4) i don't give a damn about flash, it's mostly used for ads and other gimmicks rather for anything useful over the net; i know some may care (not that i do) about streaming sites/services but most of those generally have their app.

5) i don't really need usb mass storage support because i don't even use my phone for music right now, i only use it for browsing, running apps and viewing/editing documents.

6) i don't really need a file browser because i find more convenient to look for specific kinds of files in their specific hub: it's just tidier and faster to me.

Anyway these are just few examples, would you point me to some things that you find basic and necessary and WP7 doesn't do? Maybe you should talk in a more specific way, because like i said, the concept of "basic and necessary" is too subjective and generic imho.

The only things i don't really like about WP7 is the lack of a decent built in navigation app and real multitasking, because some apps don't really support dehydratation that well and don't take you exactly where you were at.

Also, it's not all about smoothness, but also efficient integration of the few apps i really use daily and deem consider important, overall consistency in the look and feel of the OS, reliability and last but not least uniformity of the software throughout the platform, regardless the price of the device you choose to buy. Most people think that WP7 is form over function, i used to think the same way, but after you get into it imho you realize that it's pretty functional in its own way.

Tell me what does bother you the most about the OS, i'm open to discussion, i've owned Android devices for a great while so i understand how it baffles you to see people being happy about a mobile OS which apparently is too limited compared to Android. Hopefully nobody will get in here and turn this thing into the usual war...
[Windows Phone 7 General] FinancialWar:
vnvman:

you see how all of your arguments are "I don't need it, therefore it justifies why WP7 don't have it". No, you're not the only mobile user in the world.

That's like me saying my Toyota is just as good as the Ferrari because I don't need to drive above 110km/h.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
And neither are you. You're coming into this section posting with a superior, higher than thou attitude and implying that just because YOU need these features, Windows Phone lacks "function." You aren't the only user in the world, and the fact is, that most people who purchase an Android device, never even change their launcher, let alone use most of the "functionality" you're claiming is so important. If it doesn't work for you, then stay in the Android section, and post wonderful topics over there. I don't get why some of you get your daily satisfaction by coming in here in posting nonsense like this. As vnvman said, we don't need it, so the phone is perfect for us. If you need it, then don't purchase the device. I prefer being able to effortlessly use the "functionality" I do have, than to have to modify my phone to have a chance of using "new" features. A lot of Android devices aren't even on Gingerbread yet, and will probably never get ICS, so this functionality argument stops there for them.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
Financial,

I find the thing we lack the most is empathy. Many responses you already receive sum it up. But let me ask you the reverse question:

What is the point of functionality without stability?

Let us take a step back from this smoothness argument and go back to another thing that has plagued Android - Battery life. What is the point of using multicore, highspeed CPUs in order to achieve something that less horsepowered phones easily achieve at the expense of price and battery life?

Also your idea of necessary functions and my I idea may be very different. What is Windows Phone missing that you deem basic?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dr.8820:
Once upon a time, XDA was a place to come to and learn and teach, now, it's a place where people preach their phone religion...even if it's just to start a bunch of nonsense... I have Android and WP, is it really that boring in the Android forums that a person would start THIS thread in THIS section....? I'm going to sit back and watch the same ol' from the same ol'....

Sent from The ACSyndicate Tower using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
[Windows Phone 7 General] vnvman:
IDK, it seems like many Android users have some serious e-penis issue. Honestly I can't cope with that: when I was on Android I was never tired to express my criticism towards the platform, as I now do with WP7. Criticisms is very important: if the end user is always satisfied with what it has he will never get a better product.

This is what I do:

1)I choose a platform, see what I like and what I don't.

2)If something I don't like stays there for a too long time I jump ship.

3)Repeat.

IDK, maybe I'm weird.
[Windows Phone 7 General] andrewkeith5:
What I don't understand about all these Android users posting about WP7 being 'useless' is that they seem to have forgotten one MAJOR point:

The vast majority of people buying smartphones don't have a blind clue about what Android can really do if they push it. They get the phone, set up facebook, download a few useless apps and never do anything more.

The problem is that Windows Phone just isn't designed for the sort of people who frequent XDA Devs.

Windows Phone is designed for the average user - someone who doesn't have a clue what phone they want, and who'll buy whatever the salesman tells them to. That is currently the iPhone and Android, and people are fast realising that those 2 platforms aren't all that brilliant for people who don't know what to do with them.

Windows Phone is there to take care of those customers - it offers the simplest, fastest interface, with the majority of features most people use and no unnecessary frills. That is exactly the point of Metro, and something that people in this community seem to forget.

Fair enough if you want something that can do more than my laptop and don't care that the battery only lasts 6 hours as a result. You can have that - go an buy an Android.

I want a phone that works first time, every time I pick it up. That means I can pick it up, do or get what I want or need, put it down, and get on with my life. And that's what most people want, too, and that's what Windows Phone offers.

Cue a bunch of Android developers who still don't have a clue what the target market for Windows Phone is flaming the hell out of me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] magicsquid:
There's a nice video about the different mobile strategies of Google vs Apple / Microsoft here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Nfgs4EUeTlk#t=129s

In summary:

Apple / Microsoft already have a desktop OS, so can offer mobile devices that are purpose-built appliances.

Google does not have a separate desktop OS. Therefore, Android is designed to be a more general computing platform.

These are different approaches as many of the people above have explained :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
Your Toyota is better. It will get you to work everyday for a low cost and won't get stopped along the way because it ran out of gas (aka battery) when your trying to get to your work. It also won't scrape over pot holes and speedbumps. Sure the Ferrari seems flashy and will pick up all the chicks, but in the end you will end up with a broken, dead car that you constantly have to fill up and fix. Meanwhile your toyota with it's single cam will keep on plugging at a decent speed and be reliable every time you start it up till you bring it home.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I like stability, ease of use, aesthetics, an ecosystem, and speed.

You want to hack your phone endlessly to make it almost as smooth, almost as user friendly, slap on a mediocre launcher to make it not an aesthetic nightmare, download apps to emulate some type of ecosystem, and never gain the stability.

That's how I see it broken down. Android gets modified relentlessly to attain what we already have. All we really lack is the games.

E; and how about those updates?
[Windows Phone 7 General] sinister1:
I can see and understand both sides, to me personally WM kicks WP as far as being able to to simple, logical and common stuff vs WP but WP doesn't lock up on you and the battery life seems to be better. But if Windows Phone wants to compete and reallistically wants to be number 3 by 2014 or whatever they are perdicting, they need to wise up and give us back some kind of functionallty; for instance why is it so freaking hard to be able to Bluetooth some one a freaking file when that technology has been around for ages? A cricket phone can do that, why no WP? Microsoft up when they took WM away from us loyal users and basically gave us something that seems rushed and incomplete.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I love when those who flame WP7 mention Bluetooth transfer as a key feature. I haven't been to 2005 recently.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dreamcaster012:
Hah, yeah. I had an Android device for two years and never used it, just emailed most files, it was easier.
[Windows Phone 7 General] andrewkeith5:
Exactly! I think I used bluetooth file transfer once in 2006 - it was too slow and unreliable to be of any use to me.

Literally the only thing I use bluetooth for nowadays is stereo audio and occasionally for handsfree, which WP7 does perfectly well for me.

Far more important is reliable Exchange synchronisation - something which I perpetually have trouble with on Android, but has always been silky smooth on WP7.

@sinister1 I am not going to reply to you for as long as you use such foul and unnecessary language. When you are able to articulate your argument in correct English without the use of expletives, let me know.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sinister1:
LOL that is just one of many down falls would you love it even better if I try to list all of WP fails?
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Please, do feel free.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sayonical:
Lol the last time I used bluetooth file transfer was in the pocketpc days on my iPaq

This thread is pointless really. No single phone is perfect for the billions of people in the world. Choice is good.

Some like it smooth and lean (WP), some like it rough rather than clean (Android) :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] hwalker84:
What you define as necessary others may not. If those features don't exist on WP7 then don't get a damn WP7 device.

My phone has everything i deem necessary.
[Windows Phone 7 General] comeradealexi:
True dat brother!
[Windows Phone 7 General] manicotti:
Predictability and elegance

My team is working on documenting how to setup smartphones for the university's IMAP service. The iOS docs were a breeze, the WP7 docs were a breeze, the Android are still in development. For Android we had to take into account different shells, different email clients, and different OS versions. A user saying "I use Android" is virtually meaningless from a support perspective.

Last year we developed a set of native apps to give mobile users a good portal experience. From a design perspective, we got great information from Apple, Microsoft, Palm, and RIM. From Google we got nothing, which is why so many Android apps look nothing like other Android apps. Android UI things were so bad last year that one of our programmers joked that Google's only design guidance was "use pixels." (In their defense, Google just published design docs for ICS.)

The consistency of WP7 can be seen as a strength or a weakness -- which you see it as pretty much determines where you fall on the spectrum of order/chaos or totalitarianism/freedom. Many Android folks want to be able to do anything, even if they have no desire to and they're willing to tolerate any strings that come attached to that. Many WP7 users value reliability (no crashes, no slowdowns, no dead batteries mid-day, etc) over all else.

So, I see WP7 like a loyal dog always at my side and read to do what I want and I see Android as a crazy ass cat jumping around from room to room and back again with no clear reason why and then coughing up a fur ball. I'm a dog person.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
Sniff, Sniff...I smell a troll....

Dont feed the troll
[Windows Phone 7 General] weijoon:
Totally agree with you. I don't know why there are so many that keep telling us what should be use, what should not be use, what should be there, what should be there. We are all unique person, we choose what we like after we know the shortcoming.

For me, I love both OSes, WP gave me an integrated experience while Android provide me functionality and flexibility, that's why I'm using an Android-based tablet for my work and use WP as a phone for connecting with people, which I think is the main point for MS to promote their WP in the first place, and I'm quite satisfy with the functionality they provided for me.

(this is my OWN OPINION, I am not a heavy mobile gamer & not an apps lover)
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
What is the point of smoothness when you don't have function?

For me none. It's pointless unless the device is just a toy.

I actually use everyday all those functions which differ the platforms.

But the good foundation of the platform, like stable OS an consistent UI,

makes always sense for the future, when you add stuff to it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Dinchy87:
one easy answer: with wp7 you are near the thing that really matter. without to have some understandings of hacking, moding, flashing, anything. a userfriendly system that simply works for what it is build. to connect people. i have yesterday made some tests with my friends android, he has 4.0 but he before must have find the rom for his device and bla bla to get 4.0. wp7 i smooth in that way -> turn it on, put cable in start zune and you have the newest updates.

the second thing for the tiniest things in android you must have apps, like facebook, and other stuff that is already in wp7, thats the missunderstanding why poeple say wp7 is not functional. It is, give it a try ans test it for a week, and after that you have no feeleng more like on an android device that you always need something what makes the device complete. for me and my use is wp7 complete with the apps that are out there. and not only for me. wp7 had an award last year for the best OS 2011. that means something.

Have you seen the TV ads for wp7 where a "wp7 user" does not belive if another device user must have his device all the time in the hands to do things. like the on in the toilet :) the ads are named "really ads" you could watch them and see what makes the difference, you use the DEVICE AND THE DEVICE DON'T USE YOU!

---------- Post added at 02:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:46 AM ----------

and yeah i forgot, you asked that question. but we could ask you the same... Whats the point on Android if you don't have functions like WP7???
[Windows Phone 7 General] prohibido_por_la_ley:
Looks like someone needs to read the reviews of WP phones on carrier sites and see what people really do care about. And Android is nothing but another way for google to make more AdSense revenue.
[Windows Phone 7 General] DavidinCT:
Yea, I'll admit that I am a huge WP7 fan but, read the reviews.

Crap, Verizon only has one device, looking through the 850+ reviews, most gave it a 5 stars, as a total it sits at a 4 1/2 stars (out of 5). And may I add, shining reviews.

Most of the Android devices are 4 or under and even the iPhone is 4-4 1/2 depending on model.

I've played with them all, Android is not bad on the aspect of the OS design but, the fragmenting, quality of apps, OS updates too often, 6 month old devices dont get upgraded and the models causes it to suffer(high end and low end models no standard). The iPhone is fast but, it's just a sea of icons.

Most iPhone/Android users who gave WP7 a fair shot would switch. Unless they were fanboys of some type.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
I don't know why we have these threads. Same arguments over and over.

What's "necessary" for you isn't exactly "necessary" for me. I mean hell I used to have my feature phone tether. Now that my lifestyle and priorities changed, I don't even find a real need for it (i'd be good to have in a pinch, but then I also can take alternative steps to prevent assing myself out)

The only sentiments that are worth anything in this post are fiyafleye's vnvman's post about android users coming in here pissing all over the place just because there's a disagreement over android.

Everything else is the same statements that have been heard ad nauseum over and over again because people have to come in here and piss on everyone's parade for liking WP7 or finding it refreshing to try something different other than iOS and Android.

It's just a damn mobile OS people.
[Windows Phone 7 General] FinancialWar:
guys, I am sorry for starting this thread. I have learnt a lot from posts replied. I came to realise that Microsoft is target at a different market.
[Windows Phone 7 General] clixt:
I am current Android user and I might switch to WP (Hence why I found this thread). I'll get the Lumia 800 if the US version is compatible with T-Mobile's network. If it's not, I'll get the Nokia N9. Honestly, I love my Xperia X10 and it's camera, but the constant crashes and reboots made me rethink what I need--a reliable phone with great battery life that can access social sites, read documents (PDF, office files), and take excellent pictures.
[Windows Phone 7 General] anseio:
Don't look for the Lumia 800 to run AWS for a long time. You'll get 2G data, but that's it. I've got a friend who's been on iPhone w/ TMO for years. He loves the devices so much that he's sacrificed good data.