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[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Emails, most software programs, and most everything in general, great resolution, but font so small makes it hard to even see at times. I have a Note with 1280X800 resolution and font size is great, very readable but Tab 7.7 w/same resolution, but different size screen, more real estate and font appears to be 50% smaller. I have read it is Honeycomb w/no font adjustment opportunities and the Note is Gingerbread 2.3.6. Maybe ICS 4.2 once available, which combines all smartphones and tablets into a standard OS, will fix this.

Great to have the resolution, but when you can't adjust or read some of the print, then becomes difficult to support the cost, of the device. Browser is fine, that can be pinched to increase size, but the rest of the software, etc can't. The Samsung provided email client is really small, small enough I wonder if they even considered looking at the various software programs that came on the device. The actual emails are small, on inbox emails you can hit screen once for one size bump, but if you are replying, or forwarding etc, and you want to refer to what the email said, you can hardly see the print, and can't adjust at all.

I have rooted the 7.7 so have tried 2 software programs, LCD Resolution and LCD Density, doesn't work properly, which I was told before I tried by someone who really knows all this, don't bother, won't work.

So waited 4 months to get 7.7, and now difficult to read because font too small. Then I use the Note, which has a 5.3" screen, and I can read everything perfect. Why can't 7.7 read comparable to it's smaller brother, the Note 5.3? If the font size of the Note would be on the Tab 7.7 that would be perfect.

Any thoughts?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
Good points hope to get someone elses input.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] earthman5678:
HC has the ability to import fonts but I'm not sure if there is any other bigger font available.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] maconsultant:
I would like to know of a way to get a larger font as well.. the stock font is indeed to small..

Sent from another Galaxy...

Tab 7.7
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Just you and I

apparently just you and I are concerned.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] antiochasylum:
After looking into this a but more, there are no other ways to make the font "bigger".

You could try add the line "ro.sf.lcd_density=xxx"(where xxx is the size, stock on HC is 160) to the build.prop and set it that way. However dont say I didnt warn you, just make sure you have the ability to pull the build.prop file and remove that line.

There is the option to "Stretch to fill screen" However most things will look distored. And this will only work if the app has tablet support.

Aa a rule of thumb, take your computer, and bump up the resolution on your desktop monitor. What happends, font, icons, and everything gets smaller. Reason to believe the 7.7 is running at the true 1280x800 while the Galaxy Note is not.

2 other possibilities are ask samsung, or install some sort of "font changer" from the market and install a bigger font.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Croak:
The Note is set at 320 DPI which is double the setting of 160 on the 7.7. So everything is scaled bigger. Android uses DPI settings to determine what size icons to use, what size range to use in fonts, etc. More DPI, bigger icons, larger font.

Want to see something interesting, lower the DPI on the Note (or device of your choice) down to 240, or even 160. Things get SMALLER, not bigger.

If you want to increase the 7.7's DPI, I recommend you do not go higher than 214 or you'll no longer be considered a "tablet". Higher than 214 the lockscreen will change to be more phone-like, and you may not be able to access tablet versions of apps.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] earthman5678:
Someone mentioned that his Tab is screwed when he changed the DPI. It's in one of the other threads. Proceed with caution.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Justin^Tan:
well, I'm using ICS on the original tab and it has the option to make the font bigger. if only you could wait :D
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Techdread:
The gmail client has an option to increase the font Size. The browser has pinch to zoom.

And the screen is of such high quality you should be holding it closer to your face.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Marand55:
DPI

This tab is set for DPI 160, actually Tw Launcher is. Changing DPI to higher will make your font and icons bigger but TW will not work and you won't be able to use your tab. Perhaps changing the launcher to any other available one would do it but I didn't try. There are several DPI changing apps on the Market. Personally I am going to wait for the ICS upgrade and then we'll see. On the other hand I had no issues with the original tab to change DPI (I use ADW launcher) but I wouldn't recommend it for this one.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Changing DPI

Thanks. I changed by going into build.prop and added the line, at the bottom, "ro.sf.lcd_density=180". I rebooted and everything worked fine, checked most applications. The difference between 160 to 180 was great, just the right size. I tried 200 but not good, in my mind, too large, and slightly distorted status bar at bottom, but 180 is so much better to see (read) than the pre installed 160.

I never use TouchWiz, so no worries with that. I use Go Launcher, and all good.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] guho:
I followed your advice. 180 is a lot better with go launcher ex. Only issue is that standard email app now crashes. Gmail still works:-) thanks
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Sorry

I didn't provide proper info last time.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
LCD Density to 180 using Build.prop Editor

I should have done a better job of communicating. Email, whether it is the regular one or even Moxier Mail, neither work, and as far as I can tell, the only software that doesn't work when bumping to 180. I tried clearing data, rebooting, etc., to no avail.

HELP!!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] guho:
For now I am using k9 mail, which works fine.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] earthman5678:
Tried pumping up the DPI to 180 with Go EX Launcher. Wall paper screwed up (did not fill the screen and appear broken) so I had to revert.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Wallpaper

Once on, if in portrait and wallpaper short on bottom, turn device to landscape ans should fill in, then back to portrait, then all should be OK.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] appelflap:
I'm sure that something can be done with a custom flipfont. Search for flipfont on xda. The fonts are installable apks. You can switch the fonts in the settings (screen - screen display - font)

But there's a limit to the size you can set (that is if you don't mind all kind of overlapping issues in apps and desktop Widgets)

Edit: Big Font (free app in the market) increases the system font. It does some wonderful things.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] earthman5678:
Thanks Appelflap. Tested the big font apps and it's working but some apps like facebook does not take the change and remain in tiny little font.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] guho:
176 is great lcd density and stock emil app remains functional.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Follow Up

Check your dialer. I changed to 175, and all OK but dialer messed up, couldn't see the green call button. I tried couple of dialers, none worked well, either didn't work or squished at the bottom, making the numbers to dial very small. I tried Go Contacts EX, but would only use the stock, when I tried to change to others, wouldn't do, but also kinda squished, so small keys.

Anyone found a dialer that will work if lcd density changed to 176. (180 and email worked work)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Solution only found in firmware update or??

I have verified with several programmers the only solution, without messing up other things, like the dialer, or contacts, or email (if you change DPI to 180) is a firmware update from Samsung, a custom ROM addressing the system font size, or perhaps ICS 4.XX.

Three solutions, none available. I wonder which will come first?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] pa64:
Bigfont does the trick very nicely. Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] lousyfer:
Font small here too and its really dissapointing samsung !!!

I am just as concerned - waited so loong to get this and now cant read stuff coz the hi res screen makes everything so small. In addition you cant change the re either. Samsung should be shot for doing this to loyalists. Clean up your act Samsung.

---------- Post added at 06:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:31 AM ----------

Big font doesnt do the job properly as the device doesnt auto scale to the font size. eventually you end up with distortions in places and it slows down the rotating screen sometimes causing it to halt on a white screen - so i took it off.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] pa64:
I do not have this issue. I use 110%.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
Ok Gang.... I got mine 2 days ago and have been messing with it..

And BAM.. You'se are so right about the super tiny fonts...

I want to make mine larger....

I can barely read the clock on the bottom right. & need a magnifying glass for some of the other stuff...

The gray on black taskbar icon dont help either..

So ...

Whats the concenses??

What are most folks using...??

What is the perferred method...

%* years old.. Eyes still work.. but dammmnnnn... too tiny....

thanks......
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Answer is hopefully ICS

I posted originally, with little feedback, so thought must be me. Finally we have some reaction. I tried most everything as posted previously. I have settled on BigFont at 115% and it is helpful, but a band aid at best. Samsung managed to mess this up, since my Note is perfect, and same 1280X800 res. If I could only have the note font size (320 LCD density) on the Tab 7.7. Unless Samsung corrects the error of their ways, and provides a major update, our only real hope is ICS. I have asked several programmers and they agree. You have to have the correct LCD density built into the system, i.e. the Note, meaning BigFont, or changing in BuildProp. to a larger LCD density, helps in one area and messes things up in another. I did that when I first received, and at 175, the green dial button was all but hidden. At 180, email didn't work, both stock and Moxier Mail, etc.

If Samsung plans, I say if, to release ICS for Tab 7.7 by end of first quarter, as Samsung has previously indicated, then there will certainly be no update for Honeycomb 3.2. If ICS is pushed back then maybe an update, but realistically, I doubt it. I have learned to live with it, the Tab 7.7 is as good as advertised, in my opinion, just font too small. If an update fixes that or ICS, as long as one of these is provided sooner, rather than later, it would hopefully satisfy the only real complaint I have.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] sman55:
This such a problem. I hope ICS helps, otherwise, I'll have to sell it. The fonts are just too small. I've read all the above suggestions but nothing seems to work well.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] VortX:
For me one of the points of having higher density display is to see more on a smaller surface. I hate it when high resolution devices are ruined when the manufacturer puts a very high DPI. If you complain that you don't see the text well, then you don't need the high resolution and there are devices with lower resolution or bigger screens.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] sman55:
Normally, I'd agree but these fonts are extremely small.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
I agree... it sucks mostly ... even the small ass Menu, back,confirm delete, etc.... all too small.for.adult fingers as well.. hope this crap gets changed soon... fix my. Fonts!!!!!

Also... when viewers stock browser in m. Mobile sites... you're. F@@ked!!!!! Dammmmn
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] sman55:
Some good news from Steve who is developing a ROM regarding font sizes

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=23606548&postcount=235
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] cneal:
Facebook app is the biggest culprit

I too suffer from the tiny font problem. There's a free app called Big Font in the Market that works in may areas, but I removed it for two reasons:

1. It leaves an annoying icon in the status bar to tell you it's working

2. It doesn't improve the official Facebook app, which is optimised for phone screens.

If anyone has a reliable way to increase the default font size across the whole system I'm sure we'd all appreciate a how-to (my device is rooted).

Thanks,

Chris
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] cneal:
I just set my 7.7 to 176 DPI and saw the same thing: everything is improved font-wise but the Dialer display is messed up. I went to "Play Shop" (Market) and got hold of the free alternative Dialer One. That displays correctly and looks nicer than the stock dialer IMHO.

Will leave it in for a while and see how I get on with it.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] adinis78:
Don't know about all of you but I kinda like the font the way it is now, it was just a matter of getting used to it I guess :-)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] VeEuzUKY:
What I precisely want is my 7.7 to look like my original Galaxy tab 7 (or the Galaxy Note) which is, a BIG PHONE! I cant read ANYTHING and most apps I use from FoxNews to CNET TV and totally unusable on the 7.7! The fonts are so small, almost distorted small and the thumbnails the size of toothpicks.. heck ANY APP.. exDialer, the dial pad is less than 2 inches high, Dolphin Browser's Dial pad Home screen occupies 10% of the top area of the screen with all left in bottom as an empty white space.. this thing is TOTALLY wrong!

So I picked an App called LCD Density Modder that works great (among many others that basically do the same job) and I can get the Tab into exactly the DPI I want and it looks PERFECT! The only HUGE problem is that indeed any setting above 210 the the tab looses the bottom taskbar with the virtual keys (menu, return, etc) and since the 7.7 doesn't have any actual keys on the unit like the galaxy note or the original galaxy Tab 7, now I cant access menus or use the tab. I have again the functional drop down menu bar on top (that I love) and the tab looks like a big phone in phone mode, except that i have no hardware/soft keys no to navigate!

I actually think this is a native problem of Honeycomb as it was purely conceived as a tablet system.. I think under ICS 9as Ive seen on ICS equipped phones) the bar on bottom does not disappear under higher DPI and just reverts to a simple navigation bar with a few icons while the top becomes as usual the pulldown Notification area

Any thoughts on how to fix it under HC or Ill be waiting for ICS for this one? 320DPI fore me, just like the Galaxy Note, is soooooo perfect!.. but then, no way to navigate the 7.7 without the bottom bar! Thanks for the advice:):):)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] omarrabbat:
I also have a problem with the font size and icon sizes and was reading all your posts... I have tried increasing density (dialer & contacts start to look weird, messaging app becomes white instead of black) & I have tried Big Font (kinda ok at a lower setting like 110 or maybe 115 but larger than that leads to noticeable cropping of text).

One common solution everyone is giving is to wait till ICS.

But...

Why are we all assuming that Samsung are going to have a solution for us once ICS comes out?

Didn't they think this is the way it should be and designed the Tab 7.7 accordingly? Does ICS have native font & icon resizing done RIGHT???

Honestly I think their solution is kinda ridiculous. Read this for an idea of how loading image resources for apps work.

I love Android, but I hope these problems go away.

Especially after the iPad3, high res devices aren't going to look better by themselves, Google (& Samsung of course!) needs to step up their game.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] omarrabbat:
Dude how'd you have time to write all that so soon after me!!!
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] RipplingHurst:
^^^^ ROFLOL at the above.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] teiglin:
I find it interesting that we have such wildly differing expectations of the tablet. I personally think the size is perfect and I haven't tried a single app that I felt was unusable, and I love the large amount of screen real estate that accompanies small text sizes. I browse with Opera and the buttons are bigger than my finger, and easily tap-able--and complaining about Dolphin HD is never going to be the Tab's fault (plus, I'm pretty sure Dolphin makes a tablet version of their app you might prefer?). I'm quite curious as to what you consider the positioning problems of text/graphics and whether you're talking about market/3rd party apps or built-in apps. There are certainly apps that don't display all that well, but that's not a problem with the Tab; it's a problem with the app that would be the same on any WXGA tablet. I'd love to see some of those screenshots that you feel are so vomit-worthy, because I'm pretty sure I'd disagree.

Samsung has previously announced that the 7.7 will receive ICS, so while it sucks not to have a date, it will at least come.

This is just an absurd over-generalization. Sweeping statements like this give me the feel that you're ranting furiously rather than trying to give fair criticism. If you're having the same experience with early adopter regrets that you had with the original Galaxy Tab (which, by the way, I find a terrible comparison, as the rate at which that device was rushed out made it much buggier than the mild pile of dung that Honeycomb has matured into), I don't see why you're so upset about it now, or why you bought a 7.7 in the first place.

Personally, what I was looking for was the experience I got from my Tab 8.9 in a smaller package with an OLED screen, and that's exactly what I feel I got. I was not expecting the end-to-end polish of an Apple product, but if I expected that from any of the Android devices I've owned, I'd have been disappointed. As you said, it's our fault for buying their stuff. I'm a proud purchaser of a Galaxy Tab 7.7 and I will continue to support companies like Samsung as they try to roll out better products. That said, I am afraid that the 7.7 will remain such a small-volume product that it might not even get a real successor for a long time. Maybe by then the HD SAMOLED+ tech will have improved to the point where it has as few manufacturing issues as the smaller flavors.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] EarlZ:
i find the fo nts too small at times. Anyone wanma give me a speech?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] teiglin:
Well, you've come to the right thread. Just remember, Samsung holds a grudge against you personally and that's why they released this device. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] SrMoure:
I also find the fonts too small at times. Anyone wanna give me a speech?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
Ill take a speech.

Im wanting to go with Roboto font. It's supposed to be bigger and look great on the 6800...

Ok Gang.. Im wanting to go with the roboto font as described above..

first I rooted using J E Wolf's thread here...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1454112

Now that process went well..(sheeewwww!!!) *never rooted before*

Now onto omarabbat's instructions...

1st I downloaded the files on my laptop and emailed them to myself

On the 6800.. downloaded the email and saved the 3 attachments in the downloaded folder.

Now, Im stuck at step 3...

On my stock "my files" app... I found the 3 font files.... BUT...

I cannot find the "system\fonts" so's I can 'overwrite the originals'..

After I rooted, I got the new gray Superuser icon in the apps drawer.

Anyways... thanks for reading.. Please reply if you can help me with step 3..

All replies are welcomed and encouraged..

Thanks again..
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] teiglin:
You need a third-party file manager in order to view anything not under /sdcard/. I recommend ES File Explorer since it's free; a lot of people swear by Root Explorer, and there are a ton of others. If you get ES, you need to enable root browsing and editing in the options (menu->settings->root explorer and mount file system, I also recommend checking "up to root"). Then you can browse to the root directory including /system/ and of course /system/fonts/. From there hopefully it's obvious, select the fonts from /sdcard/download/ and choose copy, then go to /system/fonts/ and paste them.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
Thank you teiglin... I will give that a go later this evening.

Thanks again
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
Well, I got ES file explorer all going ....

Did all the tick marks in the boxes under settings....

Found the 3 roboto font files ...

Highlighted then and 'copy '

Found the system /font folder and pasted..

Said 'yes ' to overwrite...

Exit exit.... re-boot...

Well... I Goto change the font... and

roboto

ain't there...

Just shows default and the stock 3 ones.....

Hmmmmmmmmm
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] teiglin:
If you overwrote the fonts in /system/fonts/, then the font is changed. The fonts in the font selector under display settings are all apps. If you can't really tell the difference, I'm not surprised--roboto looks pretty similar to the old DroidSans if you're not holding them up side by side.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] jimmbomb:
Yes... they must have changed .. just the names haven't..

My memory may be slipping as why I can't tell my h difference ..

But more I look at it.... there is a change.....

I was just hoping that it would have been a larger one...

That's what I got from this entire thread... roboto. Is the shizzle for us till ICS comes along..

Oh well.. thanks for the help.. it worked!!!

Just wished for.better larger results..
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] carlo67:
Hi

I have galaxy tab 7.7 with ADWLauncher EX,

I can't make text bigger with ADWLauncher EX,

How to do that [ make text bigger]?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] scoobydu:
Sounds like you all need stronger contact lenses :laugh:

Hopefully a Jelly Bean CyanogenMod rom will come to our rescue :)
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Josvaz:
Ics? if ics under setting display.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] sos_sifou:
even with ICS, i read that making fonts big will affect the look of the system, because samsung tried to fix the system with readable fonts, so when you make it bigger, the system will get huge fonts and looks like crap, also some apps still have tinny fonts even when increasing it to big.

the problem is not fixed, the only fix we can get is that samsung release an update with a different DPI, Phablet will be great !
[HTC Sensation] tx3m:
Hi. I'm trying to find out how to fix this for the last few days, but so far without success. After flashing Android Revolution HD 6.0.3 from this thread http://xdaforums.com/show...42&postcount=4, my hboot became locked. I didn't think it would be much of a problem, because I read that I can still flash ROMs, but then I saw this message:

"With 6.0.x ROMs I strongly recommend flashing 11.65.3504.00U_11.19.3504.29_2 radio

--- Don't flash RADIO from ClockworkMod recovery! Extract downloaded file and read the guide inside! ---"

I downloaded the file, read the instructions, but it's not letting me flash the radio since it's locked.

So how can I unlock the bootloader again, without messing sth else up?

I'm sorry if somebody answered similar question already.

Thanks in advance. :o
[HTC Sensation] mrew42:
You are probably on HBOOT 1.23?

If you're using fastboot, it wont work (nothing should be locked as long as your phone still says S-OFF)

Copy the PG58IMG.ZIP to your sd card root, and reboot into bootloader, and simply follow the instructions.

Make sure you delete the file asap or it will keep trying to reinstall .
[HTC Sensation] tx3m:
Yep I am on hboot 1.23. When you download the recommended radio, it's in an archive named Radio_11.65.3504.00U_11.19.3504.29_2.rar . It contains instruction, adb files, and a file named radio.img . So do I just create an archive named PG58IMG.ZIP, containing only the radio.img file, or there is something else?

And the other thing is that it will be best if I can unlock the bootloader again, because I just found out that I'm not able to flash new splash screen too. I guess that there will be many more things that wont work.