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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
I personally haven't tried miui so I wont comment on that. There are plenty of great roms out there. I am currently using the latest cm7 nightly as my DD (#134 I think?) with excellent results! I cant remember seeing any issues since i flashed it. I am going on nearly a month with zero issues. Before this rom I tried out New To Root's Incredible 2 HD RLS v1.1 which was also a flawless rom from my experience. I had no luck with the RC releases of cm7 but I know of others who love them.

I like to run sense from time to time but I always go back to aosp for the customization possibilities it offers.

In the end, none of us can tell you what the best rom for you is. I can say that in general if you want a rom that you can flash and forget about it you will probably want to go with a rom that has been around for a while, preferably one that is in RC or Final status.

My advice is to try a few so you can see whether you like miui, aosp, or sence. Once you figure that out then just try a few of that type to find one that suits you.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ma70ent:
Well I've never even used a smartphone before other than when occasionally using my brother's iPhone 4, so the interface won't be a big deal. I'll adapt and enjoy whatever I end up using. I just want to use something that's stable (in the sense that it's fully featured and nothing randomly messes up) and fast. Skyraider Zeus and the various CM7 kangs seem to accomplish this. I'll have to think harder on which one i want to use. The CM7 kang i'm looked at is by Condemned Soul. I can't really post in that forum yet, so I'm using this thread as a way to get this type of information.

The CM7 kang that he made is already able to OC I believe because of the CM kernel...so that's a plus because I'd really just want to flash the phone and enjoy using it. I like tinkering with stuff, but I don't want to constantly worry about flashing/unflashing and causing instability. I need this phone to last until the next upgrade. The thing is, "Sense" seems really interesting. People say it looks nice and has lots of features, but I've never really experienced these features anyway, so maybe I should go with CM7.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] untaken:
I always hear people talking about how stable MIUI is, but that has not been my experience with MIUI at all. I have tried MIUI three or four times on a few different android devices each time following the install instructions exactly. Wiped factory reset, dalvik, permissions battery stats etc. all the default ROM install stuff.

Each time MIUI boots up fine and works well for about 3 hours and then randomly reboots and glitches forcing me come back to the stable CM7 version.

I really want to like MIUI, but my experiences seem to be very different than most people.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ma70ent:
Interestingly enough, when I googled the word "issues" on Cyanogenmod's stable forum, they mentioned stuff about Skype having problems with audio that was fixed in the non-stable nightly #134. This is why I am wondering if CM7 is truly stable or not. I'm not sure how to track errors/issues, so I don't know what the nightlies have improved upon, and I definitely don't know what the kangs improve on/fix.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jrizk07:
If you like tinkering with stuff I'd say you could go the CM or MIUI (AOSP) route. But this phone is not going to be as good as other phones that are running aosp. It was made to run sense.

Fully featured is also going to set you back, do you mean fully featured as in being able to use it as a world phone? GSM Capabilities?

If so you're going to have to run stock or close to stock.

Me personally, I like sense. MikRunny 1.01 here. Fast, stable and everything works. Except for GSM though.

cstone1991 had it right though, you have to run them to see which one you like best. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on which ROM runs best and again each phone is going to run ROMS differently as well.

For ROM's you're going to basically go through different bases like this.

AOSP ROM's like CM7, MIUI

Sense 2.1 ROM's like Andybones stock or skyraider zeus

Sense 3.0 ROM's like Virtuous

Sense 3.5 ROM's like MikRunny

Each base has different features, different feel. You'll also have the ability to theme them differently as well.

Try the ones that interest you the most, run them for a few days each and see which one fits you the best.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ma70ent:
I like tinkering with stuff, but only to a point. I don't like to constantly have to "re-do" things that don't have to do with the tinkering process (IE: Flashing over and over). What makes the phone able to run "Sense" instead of AOSP? I'm not aware of the whole Sense vs AOSP bit. If I could get some solid info on why I should run Sense instead of AOSP, I'll run Skyraider Zeus most likely, etc.

What I mean is that I don't need "extra" features or anything like that. I just want the phone to work the way it's supposed to....such as GPS and the camera(s) working. I don't want to have to sacrifice something I use often in order to gain speed. World capabilities aren't a big deal to me for sure. I don't know what "tethering" is so that whole bit isn't too important either.

Thanks for this huge list. What's the difference between Sense 3.5 vs 3.0 vs 2.1? Yes, the obvious answer is that one is newer than the other. I heard Sense 3.5 has issues with the camera being upside down, etc. So I'd probably stick with the Sense that came with this phone (Sense 2.1 probably)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jrizk07:
I say you skip 3.0 altogether and run either 2.1 or 3.5. Anything is better than stock with all the bloat so try skyraider or andybonesstock.

If you wanna try 3.5 go with MikRunny 1.01 and in the display turn off the 3d widget features. See how that runs on your phone, It's flawless on mine, I get no lag but again different phones run differently.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ma70ent:
Alright I've decided to go with Skyraider Zeus thanks to reading all of this. Thanks for all of the help. I don't plan on flashing a new kernel onto Skyraider Zeus, so whether the stock SZ kernel can OC or not doesn't matter to me. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
I don't think you will need to over clock. I haven't needed to on this phone. I have tested it and all it did for me was reduce battery life and improve benchmark scores. I haven't been able to tell a difference in actual usage whether I run at 1ghz or 1.8ghz so I opt for better battery life. The only rom that I benefitted from overclocking on was one of the really early ICS builds.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Rickinsav:
To all you who responded and to the OP - thanks!

This thread has been very helpful, I just got my Inc 2 last week and looking forward to trying out some new ROMS.

I've read that the stock kernel changed with the OTA updates (I'm on 2.3.4)

Does that limit which of the ROMs I can run?

Are there better ROM managers than others when it comes to this phone and the ROMs available for it?

Thanks.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ma70ent:
The fact that you're on 2.3.4 means you need to use a downgrade tool and go down to 2.3.3. Then you'll use software called "Revolutionary" to get root, etc. If you search for "nat3mills" on youtube, and look under his videos for incredible 2 stuff, he has step by step tutorials on how to do all of this. That's what I'm going to do. Hopefully XDA doesn't penalize me for referencing this youtube user. Good luck!

EDIT: Also I'd like to ask everyone, since you feel there is no point in overclocking, is there a way to undervolt with any of these ROMs? Specifically SkyRaider Zeus/CM7 (asking because these seem to be the two common choices for people, and I figured this thread could now be used as a good reference) My logic behind undervolting is that if you can overclock it drastically on stock voltage (which is what I assume SRZ and CM7 are on) then you can probably keep it at stock clocks and undervolt it for better battery life/temperatures.

EDIT #2: Ok I was just looking in CondemnedSoul's CM7Kang thread. Apparently there is an app called Incredicontrol that let's you mess with voltages. Just to make sure, CM7 in itself only has the ability to control clock speeds (under/overclock) and not voltages, right? This means that Incredicontrol is necessary to mess with voltages?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Number R09:
from my understanding; if you OC and UV you gain nothing, if you UC and UV you conserve battery, if you OC and OV you make your device faster but perhaps introduce instability.

i've been reading tons of threads, clock speeds and volting included, and i have made the decision to not O/UC nor O/UV because my phone works great as it is and i do not care about benchmarks and my battery life is acceptable as it is.

if you really want to know more, set aside some time (hours) to search and read thread after thread on these topics and make your own educated decision based on the debates other members have participated in.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ma70ent:
Uhhh, you're looking at things the wrong way completely. Having less voltage whether something is overclocked or underclocked is ALWAYS better. If you increase the clock speed and have the voltage less than stock, it's a complete WIN WIN situation unless it introduces instability, but this is something you test for. Some people Overvolt to Overclock even further, but increasing voltage is not ALWAYS necessary. Keeping speeds at stock, but UNDERVOLTING helps battery life. Finally, overclocking but keeping stock voltage is the best combination for actual speed. Increasing voltage reduces battery life much more than simply increasing clockspeed.

This is how things work for desktops, and I'm sure it applies to everything else, including phones.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tincbtrar:
Not necessarily...desktops and laptops and phones (hardware in particular) is built to run within certain voltage limits. Undervolting CAN help but not in all situations, and especially when running at max-min frequency can cause major instability in a speed-step cycle.

It is usually safe to undervolt a little bit with most hardware - but radios in general can be affected by voltage. Test all hardware with stress testing to ensure it is safe FOR YOUR PARTICULAR PHONE.

Background : MS in Computer Science (Heavy Unix Background)

To keep the thread on track - this phone was meant to run with Sense 2.1 - if you sync multiple email accounts or run many apps (buggy or not) you should probably stick with Sense 2.1. If you arent a demanding mobile phone user try anything else. I wish the AOSP builds were more compatible with HTC - and if AOSP isnt integrated into any HTC phones in the future I may switch to another manufacturer.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
Well the g2 for T-Mobile showed us that they can execute aosp well and are willing to (at least when the carrier makes them.) Hopefully ICS will bring more aosp love to HTC phones.
[Desire HD Accessories] CuBz90:
I spent days, even months trying to make my battery last longer and looking for portable chargers to carry around with me just incase I needed it.

I then realised I should just buy another battery, I have no idea why I had never thought of this before.

So a few months ago I purchased a refurbished genuine battery from eBay for only £4. The only problem now was the trouble of keeping one battery charged while using another. I then found a desktop charger which can charge the battery without the phone (link below)

I use this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Battery-Desktop-Charger-Cable-HTC-DESIRE-HD-/290594769249

This one could also be very useful

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-DESIR...DUAL-DOCK-STATION-STAND-DESKTOP-/320793954500

It will automatically stop charging the battery when full, but will still consume alot of electricity if left plugged in.

I've been using this method for about 6 months now with no problems whatsoever.

Now whenever my battery goes dead whilst I'm out, I just simple switch batteries and I have full charge again. It takes 2 minutes to swap batteries, no trouble at all, and a battery isn't too big to carry around, I keep mine in my back pocket or in my wallet.
[Desire HD Accessories] Dlog:
People want to have ONE piece.

They want to be able to charge the phone when it needs to be charged, but they don't want to look at the percentage every five minutes and fear that the battery will be dead after a day.

Thus they want a battery with more juice.

A lot of people have skins for their phones to protect it and keep the resell value high. Those people might even consider to buy a powerskin which would give them an extra 1500mAh (at a price of course, but that's price vs. convenience).

Others know how to preserve their preciously mAhs.

Normally the phone should drain your battery by 1% to 1.5% every hour. That means it can run in standby and wait for calls and texts for up to 4 days.

Since you normally use the phone at least a bit, you should be able to keep it running on one charge for two days.

The last resort is to keep multiple batteries.

It can happen that you forget the spare. It can happen that you forget to charge the spare. It can happen that it's just not possible to swap batteries because you are standing outside in the dark.

There are just so many points why you would want to try and extend your phones live before you carry around a spare.
[Desire HD Accessories] CuBz90:
I prefer to carry a spare. Takes only a couple of hours to charge, and I always put it in my wallet straight after its charged. It's the cheapest option and imo its the best option. Better than a big bulky cover with a battery inside it that also costs a bomb.
[Desire HD Accessories] dukynko:
I want one battery too.

I bought mugen power 1500 mAh. It's better, but still not for all day heavy use...

So i order htc Evo 3d with 3600 extended mugen power battery with spare cover.

:)
[Desire HD Accessories] gtluke:
The external charger thing is awesome. I always have a fresh battery available. Super cheap too. I have 4 batteries, enough to leave one at work, in the car, and at home.
[Desire HD Accessories] CuBz90:
It does seem the easiest and the cheapest option. I tried larger batteries and portable chargers, but none of them would make the battery last as long as I needed it to.

But now having a spare battery with a desktop charger is the best option for me, it cost me less than £10 for the genuine battery and desktop charger, and all I have to do when my battery is dying, is simply replace the battery. Less than 2 minutes later I have full charge. It's not hard, and it's not expensive, I just don't understand why people chose very expensive, and less effective options when this seems the most effective as it's twice as much juice, and it's the cheapest option too, extremely cheap.

The only downside is if you forget to take the spare battery out with you, but I got used to putting it in my wallet or my jeans pocket straight after it has charged. Some people say it's a stupid option because you may forget to take it out with you, but I could argue saying people with portable chargers could forget to take them out with them too. The way I see it is, you get so used to not forgetting to take your phone out with you, everyone checks to make sure they have their phone with them before they go out, and after a week or 2 you finally get used to taking the battery out too. When I first got the spare battery I did sometimes forget to take it out with me, but after a week I got use to checking I had the battery with me, as well as the phone.

My checks are... Wallet, keys, phone, battery, go :D
[Desire HD Accessories] major fecker:
Charge

I bought a portable charger for £24 from Amazon, and it's proved really handy for me. It's a 7000mah Tecknet and can charge two devices at once as comes with loads of adapters. Although the spare battery is a good solution it's only a solution for that one device. A portable charger will also charge your back up or 2nd phone, mp3 player, and any other phone you buy in the future. It is as big as the phone so it's easily pocketable. I've considered carrying it in my boxers just to see the look on peoples faces when I unzip my jeans and plug my phone into my crotch. I've also been meaning to test exactly how many charges it does but it's at least 3.
[Desire HD Accessories] CuBz90:
Yes, they are brilliant, I must admit. But spare battery is good for cheaper option. I did buy one of those portable chargers but it stopped working within 2 weeks so I didn't bother with another.

P.S. The thing about your crotch is kinda weird :D
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
I've got a NewTrent 5000mAh power pack, and it's good for - about - 3 charges. Not easy to be precise about that, since no accumulator maintains and returns 100% of its capacity, but 5000mAh is more than enough.

I use it for mountainbiking when I want to record a track and also communicate my position for 4-7 hours, without having to stop, lose a few minutes and change batteries.

Different solutions will be valid for different needs, but this is easy to charge and easy to use.

And it cost me about €20 off Amazon, which is a lot less than an OEM/Mugen battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] CuBz90:
That's not a bad price. I'll take a look.
[Desire HD Accessories] Walderstorn:
I also got a spare (genuine desire hd battery ), its im my wallet, since i usually had so much crap in it i cant even its there.
[Desire HD Accessories] Tylym:
Hey Guys! :)

I'm not sure if i am in a right place to put my question. If it's wrong i'm sorry and please move it! :)

Does anyone have an extra battery? I would like to buy another but i am a bit concerned if it's good or not.

This is the battery i'm talking about.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2450mAh-H...ltDomain_3&hash=item53eb13d89b#ht_4096wt_1110
[Desire HD Accessories] Dlog:
Imagine you have a glass that can hold 1230 milliliter......now imagine you find a golden glass of the same size on ebay that says it can hold 2450 milliliter.

If you can imagine those things then you have just given yourself the answer...
[Desire HD Accessories] Tylym:
And what about this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1930mAh-H...ltDomain_3&hash=item3a6ad2c86b#ht_2125wt_1139
[Desire HD Accessories] Dlog:
Seems you couldn't imagine it....
[Desire HD Accessories] Tylym:
Yes I thought:) But I have seen other solutions. I asked a question, thanks for making me helped but could have had more calm :|

Thanks!
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
The only battery that will increase capacity is the Mugen 1500mAh battery. There are a couple of threads already in this forum on this battery.

All the ebay batteries offering the world are, let's say, misleading the consumers.
[Desire HD Accessories] aquifx:
The Mugen battery are less reliable, also even if its 1500mAh, it may discharge much quicker than our original battery.
[Desire HD Accessories] Dlog:
How can it have more mAh than the original if it discharges quicker?

Maybe you should think about that for a bit.
[Desire HD Accessories] chengjie89:
Mugen battery has higher capacity!

and for my case, it lasts longer then stock batt.
[Desire HD Accessories] o4kareg:
Bought this one, and am very happy.
[Desire HD Accessories] Hunt3r.j2:
The most probable answer is that Mugen is lying.
[Desire HD Accessories] adamnickster:
Can you tell me what battery is the best for DHD ? Quality/price ? I prefer good price :)
[Desire HD Accessories] TwistedSanity666:
What are you guys doing with your phones for such high battery drain?

I purchased a second USB cable, which I take with me to work, rarely do I run out of battery to the extent where it dies.

Managing phone use is probably a better way to preserve battery.

And yes, I do use mobile internet, games and music at the same time, but if I know my battery is going to be low and I need my phone for its primary functions, those things get switched off.

Simples.
[Desire HD Accessories] Dlog:
Yes, we all carry extra usb cables with us:

- At the club

- In the park

- EVERYWHERE WHERE THERE ISN'T A WAY TO CHARGE YOUR PHONE

....would it be if you just had enough juice for two days or more!
[Desire HD Accessories] TwistedSanity666:
Point taken, no need for the capslock.
[Desire HD Accessories] Hunt3r.j2:
The solution is to carry a 3000-5000 mAh external battery pack, or spare OEM batteries. If HTC could reasonably get more battery capacity into the DHD's battery compartment, why wouldn't they?
[Desire HD Accessories] abi93k:
You can use juice defender. Increases battery life notably . but spare bettery anyday
[Desire HD Accessories] Dlog:
That's why i'm thinking about getting a RAZR MAXX next.

3300mAh is WAY better than anything HTC can offer.

Just switch off location and weather update and you don't need juice defender ;)

And since juice defender ultimate is needed for the location based wifi activation, i'd suggest to use llama. It's like Tasker but free and can do everything juice defender can if you set it up right.
[Desire HD Accessories] rootingdestroyer:
wow so this is pretty awesome. although a case for the spare battery might be useful.
[Desire HD Accessories] threepointfive:
got the same debate going on here.

whats better - a spare battery from htc or an external charger pack with three times more of the original's capacity?

Having a second battery sure consumes less space - but youd have to turn your phone off to change it and it would make it last twice as long as usual while

the battery pack provieds up to five full charges for the battery, the phone doesnt need to be turned off while "charging" but it is bigger than a spare battery.

For me that would make two points for the charger and one point for the second battery.

but still im in a huge dilemma here. Are there any other experienced facts that i missed?

Thanks for the help
[Desire HD Accessories] RASTAVIPER:
That the good chargers, like the Energizer Xp4001 cost 2-4 times more than a battery.

And if you plan to use it everyday for charging your phone, after some period it will lose its ability for maximum charge.

Unleashed from my Revolutionized Desire HD
[Desire HD Accessories] threepointfive:
sure thing it will lose some cpacity over time, but an original battery does so too
[Desire HD Accessories] stephendt0:
With these portable battery chargers, how long does it take to achieve a full charge? If it takes hours it would be pretty annoying to have to carry it everywhere.
[Desire HD Accessories] RASTAVIPER:
charging of the phone is like having it at the normal wall charger, if the portable charger gives same output of course.but most good chargers are like this.

Unleashed from my Revolutionized Desire HD
[Desire HD Accessories] maianh:
Second battery isn't a good solution (my opinion)

In my opinion, second battery is so complicated in the useage. You have to turn off the phone, change the battery, turn on... as well as the risk of damage the fragile cover.

External battery pack like a New Trent is good solution.

My next phone after DHD must have a battery at least 2500mAh.
[Desire HD Accessories] paul c:
I agree, it's messy - plus you have to keep the spare battery topped up (awkward if you don't have one of those chargers where the battery doesn't have to be inside the phone)

I actually have a Mugen 1500mah for the day to day stuff - I always get to the end of the day now with normal use (internet, push email, phone, some games, plenty of screen)

I have a 5000mah NewTrent for when I know I'm going to need plenty of power - travelling, all day mountainbiking (recording the track with the GPS).

the battery pack tends to sit in a drawer, I top it up via the USB as needed, and have never had a problem with it.
[Desire HD Accessories] alexeyvas:
Hello, guys! I'm fan of mountainbiking too and started to use MapMyRide+ this spring. Of course, my original HTC battery becomes empty in 2-3 hours. I found very interesting thing for a good price. Check the link: http://www1.buyincoins.com/details/...harger-for-iphone-nokia-26-product-11909.html

I allready bought it and hope to receive it tomorrow. I think 5600mAh will be enough for all day use of GPS. I'll revert with results of my test this weekend!