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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Evo_Shift:
I think the reason the others won't work is a lot of those smaller chargers for phones and things are 5 volt and the prime wants a 12 or 15 volt or something. At least I thought that's what the prime charger had listed in it's specs.

I suppose if radio shack had a generic wall usb charger listed higher it should work. The Prime/TF101 chargers are like $30...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gnopps:
Why do you have to pay for shipping?

There is something I don't understand here. Why do you have to pay to ship the unit to Asus if you didn't break it? I'd understand you'd have to pay to get it back if they discover that it broke because of you but why do you have to pay to get a warranty repair?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
Are you worried about a catastrophic failure if your hypothetical situation occurs? Also considering it "freezing" is a bit off since you can't freeze a solid, you are simply cooling it.

Considering there are plenty of electronics that work outside in the winter without problems to their soldering as far as I am aware, I would think cooling your adapter shouldn't be a huge risk.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vakbrain:
My USB Charger died as well... In fact It worked only 1 time !

I received my TF201 Wednesday (jan 18th) and the usb charger worked like a charm the first time. I played with the TF201 until the battery was at 1% and I plugged it on the charger then... nothing (no orange lights and no charging icons on the screen). I submit a RMA for this (and for the light bleeds, I'm so lucky).

Now I have to charge my TF201 with regular usb charger but It only charges the TF201 if it is turned off and it takes FOREVER to charge (after 12h of charging = 72%).

I wonder if it would charge faster if I plug on my computer (I got usb3 ports)...
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
Why is it that ever since the Sensation has come out that there is very little to no AOSP support and/or development for it?

The closest we ever seem to have are Sense-stripped ROMs, and it's so annoying.

Now the CM9 team has stopped Sensation development? What the hell is going on?

Is it the Sensation's architecture that renders it just that difficult for our very respected and talented developers to provide such content?

I despise Sense with the deepest passion imaginable. May someone please explain the lack of AOSP support for this amazing device?

Excuse my ranting but I can't hold out for much longer without knowing a clear answer.
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
i agree with u :cool::cool:
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Dude, seriously get a grip. Our very own devs are working on it and have a 2nd alpha release already out. Look in the dev section and you'll see the be from virtuous. It's got it's bugs, but it's we'll on its way to stardom. Forget cm9, those people don't know what it means to finish what they start. Take stock in our devs, as they are working their butt off as we speak.

And yes, it's no easy task. Ics is radically new and different. Give it some time and some more Htc release before we have a solid rom.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] moh0:
First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
For sure, I understand, I'm not trying to be ignorant, I just love AOSP.

Also, with my previous Android device being the myTouch 4G, it received an AOSP ROM, actually a variety of them rather quickly.

Like I said I respect our developers and love them to death, I'm just having AOSP withdrawals. HTC Sense is tearing me apart :P
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
I knew about the Alpha ROM, just wish it wasn't the only one in development. I believe I saw the CM9 info in another thread. Apparently it was mistaken.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.

Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
And I thank the Virtuous team for tackling the project. No one else seems to care, guess Sense has everyone by the neck.
[HTC Sensation] moh0:
I highly doubt a respected developer such as kmobs would be lying to our faces. While the way CM team operates might be infuriating to us flashaholics, they are secretive for a reason. They want a high quality release with initially all internal efforts. And hey, its gotten them to a millions users, so they must be doing something right.
[HTC Sensation] fr0zenblood75:
+1

No one from cm7 has said that development has stopped. These devs have lives and other things to do and other problems to deal with. Kmobs doesn't want to release a buggy Rom which I think is good.
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
When you pay the CM developers a salary, then you can complain about their release schedules.

When they give you their work for free, it'll come out when they are ready for it to come out and you ought to be grateful.

If it doesn't come out at all, you've got nothing to complain about because you didn't do anything to help it come out.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
News flash, they are playing with the idea of charging for things in the future. They want to have their own marketplace and make money on the side for this and that. Check Kmobs g+ for more information. They're going to have to get used to quite a bit more if they want to be successful. Communication is key, and in this case, king. They better get used to a whole lot more the second they receive money for an app.

Also, no one is *****ing about not having cm9 yet, they are *****ing about the secrecy as to whether or not it is even still a possibility. I believe it was mentioned that many other OLDER phones have some version of cm9 already, yet we don't.

Also, they never said cm7 was over either, yet the consensus says that it is. We've heard zip officially about cm9 or cm7.

If this is how they run their future paid for apps business, I'll steer clear as will most. As for now, I'm sure they enjoy the free beers they get from all the donations. It would be a nice gesture of them to give an update about cm9.

Aside from Kmobs and company, it's refreshing to see a group of people working hard on an ics aosp. Once they get a few more things ironed out, I'm sure they will see a lot more donations coming their way. ;)
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
And I'm stoked about the Virtuous project.

I also understand these concerns of "you're not doing much to help" yet all I'm saying, is that I think a powerful and amazing device such as the Sensation should have more of an AOSP ROM variety. Most other devices have all kinds of AOSP ROMs.

I wish all of us, the Sensation community, would have worried more about AOSP ROMs other than our huge database of Sense based ROMs. Don't get me wrong, however, our Sense ROMs are absolutely amazing and they've helped my patience along with, I'm sure, many other user's patience as well.
[HTC Sensation] tritran18518:
This is what i have been thinking since i moved from mytouch 4g to sensation. I just don't know why but it looks like sensation users/developers is not interested in MIUI rom ( i only see 1 MIUI rom, and it not fully working, no update recently). :confused:
[HTC Sensation] moh0:
Actually, the MIUI ROM in the dev section has been updated as of a few days ago. Also there is another highly functional MIUI ROM floating around but linking to it is forbidden. Hit up google if interested.
[HTC Sensation] hockeystar711:
I think CyanogenMod has to be secretive to function.

You make a good point, I haven't seen hardly any AOSP roms for the sensation besides cyanogenmod. Although I think cyanogenmod 7 is ridiculously fast, and it's aosp, I quite like it...and cm9 beta is available for the sensation, but I agree with the fact that they don't announce ANYTHING...their last update on cm9 was like december 9th.

However, if you think of it from their perspective, can you possibly imagine releasing a buggy beta rom to THAT many people? I mean, the first rom a lot of people hear about is cyanogenmod, so all of the new people would flash that, and we all know how many new people can't read a set of clear instructions...

So, i think that it is almost required for them to keep it on the down low, to avoid mass confusion and complaining from every single user who can't read...It's like when you read the comments morons leave in the market...

anyways, sorry to rant. but Yeah, I think that they pretty much have to be more secretive, not all of their users are active forum members seeking to better the community and not be ignorant.

:)
[HTC Sensation] DeezNotes:
I've always been curious why A2DP bluetooth and the camera are always the hardest things to fix on most phones when compiling an AOSP ROM. I thought the ROM source would help with that, but I don't know exactly how it works.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
From what I understand, both of those things (including wifi hotspot) are kernel related. It's hard to dev's to fix those things without the proper kernel source.
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
Ah that helped me understand a lot more.
[HTC Sensation] nccu_eagles:
just an fyi that xda isn't the only place to find roms...
[HTC Sensation] g1user101:
Use hypersensation
[HTC Sensation] wmoore:
I've been using Virtuous Quattro AOSP for a couple of days now and apart from a couple of minor niggles, it has been flawless! If this is alpha, I can't wait for the full release :D
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
so whats the overal experience of that? is it noticeably faster than cm7? Im on cm7 right now and was planning to wait for cm9 but I am losing patience. my cm7 is also starting to lag up for whatever reason.

Think I might give that aosp rom a try. does Virtuous Quattro AOSP allow undervolting with OC/UV beater?
[HTC Sensation] wmoore:
Never used CM7 so can't compare but this is the fastest ROm I've used - I'm running at 1.5GHz with custom kernel. I'm not sure about OC/UV beater - never heard of it TBH :D

Have a look through the thread (link in my sig) - most people are having a good experience with it.
[HTC Sensation] thelegendarylegends:
Aye man, first of all u must had a pretty convincing reason why u bought the HTC sensation in the first place, while having a preference of only liking the AOSP look Android, as u could've bought otherr vanilla android phone and got good update of Pure AOSP iCs, like the Samsung nexus s or s2. Not saying I hate AOSP look, cos I love it it looks clean :D and Im also a sense fanatic so yeah I love both.

Anyway if Ye looking for an AOSP version take a look at HyperSensation its the best PURE AOSP Rom for our sensation currently.

Sent from my sensational HTC sensation's xda app
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
I bought the Sensation because of it's raw power, dual core processors, large amount of RAM, the 1080p video recording, the qHD screen and much more. I also bought it because, like the amazing phone I had before it (myTouch 4G) I was confident that I could go home, root it and expect an AOSP ROM in a matter of a couple months. It's been three quarters of a year and not much progress. But however there has been progress and boy am I excited to see the completion of the Virtuous and CM9 ROMs.
[HTC Sensation] thelegendarylegends:
YEah aosp is finally in progres :D Virtuous and HyperSensation are both good pure AOSP ICS :D
[HTC Sensation] DeezNotes:
I bought it because I was on Verizon before this and they never released good phones quickly. All the phones getting released overseas first were GSM, so I chose T-Mobile as my carrier. The sensation was announced as their flagship phone so I figured the dev support would be great since it was also being released overseas. I also had a galaxy s phone at the time (fascinate) which had really annoying bugs compared to my first android phone (HTC Eris).
[HTC Sensation] jerrylzy:
I don't understand why some ppl buy a htc cellphone to use aosp.As for me,the purpose of buying a htc cellphone is that I love the most convenient and beautiful Sense UI.If i wanna use aosp,i would buy one belonging to google's nexus series;)
[HTC Sensation] thelegendarylegends:
+100000000000 to this aye, at least they must have liked sense in some way, I just don't understand, don't get me wrong cos I think AOSP ICS looks very neat and very good for flashing options, but sense is just useful and brilliant UI which what really came out with the device, 10 chars to that - if we want ONLY PURE AOSP we can just buy gal,nexus...

That was basically what I meant to :D

Sent from my sensational HTC sensation's xda app
[HTC Sensation] Sleef:
Why be on xda in the first place if you don't want options?

Stop asking why we bought htc phones but enjoy aosp. It's a ridiculous question to be asked on these forums.
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
I'm just a big fan of HTC, and I do appreciate Sense, but sometimes I'll picture what this phone could do with pure AOSP Android, then I get angry.

Even most HTC employees root their phones and use Senseless ROMs.
[HTC Sensation] fandroid93:
I understand where you are coming from but still. You despise Sense. So when you bought the Sensation did an HTC goblin steal your phone and put Sense on it? No. No one ever promised AOSP. TripnRaver is working on it. Kmobs says he is. The source is available to everyone. You try.
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
I appreciate everything we Sensation users have yo, don't get me wrong, all I was saying at first is I'm surprised we don't have that many by now. I'm not attacking anyone haha.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
Source is not available to everyone if it is then I haven't been too crazy to find it as I've pretty much given up on kmobs to deliver us a source for pyramid. The ONLY source that is open to everyone is the framework and kernel which isn't setup completely for ICS I believe.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
He means actual AOSP source.
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
because a lot of people, including me, buys phones judging from hardware only. We have high hopes that a device with such good hardware would attract a big enough audience and developers, and AOSP will eventually be out for that device despite its stock sense/whatever firmware.

Imo I was also surprised that the sensation doesnt have much aosp development, despite how it is a fairly popular device worldwide.
[HTC Sensation] moto211:
What's your source for this fud?
[HTC Sensation] jerrylzy:
I think we should encourage htc staff to do more things on optimization.

No sooner had Sensation been released than i bought it.I witnessed the improvement of speed on sensation.

Guys we shouldn't only anticipate AOSP builds.Yes,that's a choice.But we should encourage HTC to do more things on optimizing roms to give users conveniece and bring users satisfication.This could be better than only anticipating AOSP roms.

Make Sense more Sensational;)
[HTC Sensation] rswett:
+1 for sure. I Love my sensation but I hate sense with a firey passion. I got into this phone purely for the hardware.

and FYI: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1408351

Virtuous Inquisition. It is still "senseless" in that it is bases on sense, but rmk40 has ripped out all the sense that he can. The ROM has been rock solid for me since christmas, and it is a good alternative since Quattro is still in the alpha stage of development
[HTC Sensation] galaxys:
Virtuous Inquisition v2.1.0 also sets the standard for me :)
[HTC Sensation] wmoore:
Quattro is in alpha but I've been running it for about 4 days and it has been very good - no real issues to speak of.
[HTC Sensation] nevrlow:
Theres cm7 for the sensation. Yea its an alpha but runs perfect minus camcorder not working. How much more AOSP can u get?
[HTC Sensation] ianken:
My $0.02. WhileI hope we get a nice AOSP version I'm not building my breath.

I'm so tired of flaky kitchen frankenroms that I'm just running a rooted stock TMO image.

It seems most of these guys spend more time on clever 1337 speak names than the code. I'm assuming they can actually code and not just repackage some bins.

It's always the same: announce the pre pre pre alpha ROM. Claim it is 'smooooth' and that every thing works. Then devote ten releases getting wifi and Bluetooth to work. Oh, and it only drops calls sometimes. It gets old.

I too assumed the sensation, being a dual core beast would get more attention than it has.

You want slick AOSP then it's a nexus. Good luck with that Samsung hardware, I hear it mostly works, most of the time.
[HTC Sensation] nevrlow:
Lolol. Why dont u start making roms.
[HTC Sensation] sshede:
CM7 Alpha10 is perfect, video recording works up to 720p.

Virtuous Quattro is only Alpha 3 and everything but bluetooth and video recording work.

Virtuous Inquisition is stable, fast, and bug free. Nothing's perfect though.

Any of the ARHD roms are suitable for daily drivers.

Like 30 more roms are stable enough for daily driving too.

You're a dumbass. The only developer that fits that description is Trip. His AOSP ICS rom has been in development since the beginning of ICS on the Sensation, and it's still got all sorts of problems (though he'll praise it til he's dead and keep his followers just barely in the loop via twitter.)

None of these devs owe you anything, so if you want to ***** about their work, make your own roms.
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
Someone who works at a phone shop in UK made a thread in this forum last week talking about an HTC employees that came in to deliver an Amaze and XL for display and the employee mentioned that final ICS rom would be out soon and about the Senseless ROM dealio.
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
Hardware is also the main reason why I buy phones and I also anticipated the Sensation to have a huge development community in all kinds of ROMs.

I'm using the Virtuous Inquisition ROM now and it works wonders.
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
No dude our selection of ROMs are amazing and I thank every developer in the Sensation community for their hard work. I just wish the variety was bigger.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
I've got two roms that I've worked on and there both very fast in my opinion.
[HTC Sensation] nevrlow:
I think the devs are doing a wonderful job. I purchased a sensation back in september and there wasnt **** for this phone so i went back to samsung with a nexus s. I came back to the sensation in december and omg has there been huge improvements.
[HTC Sensation] blahbl4hblah:
There's a lot of improvement from that time and now
[HTC Sensation] nevrlow:
If u want the best mods in general dont buy a phone on launch and expect roms to just work. My new rule is the phone must be 3 months old before i buy it. So far its working out
[HTC Sensation] moto211:
Your original statement was "Even most HTC employees root their phones and use Senseless ROMs" which is a baseless claim. One rep running a senseless rom does not mean most htc employees run senseless roms. If fact, I suspect (but would never claim to know) that most htc employees run beta sense based roms for internal dogfooding purposes.
[HTC Sensation] I AM M07S:
Lol ive done the exact same thing with the phones i buy and too right but it works out great.....

And to all the people saying that the hypersensation ics and virtuous quattro are great aosp roms.Hypersensation is based off vituous quattro and that just seems like alot of work that wasn't needed to be done e.g.(KANG) although im very sure he had permission to base his build off of virtuous quattro
[HTC Sensation] ianken:
CM7 10 had serious camera and video playback issues when I flashed it.

Virtuous looks promising.

I stand by my statement that many roms are franken roms with clever names.

The bright spot being kernel devs. We have some nice options there.

And you know what? If you can't take some critical words without getting your panties in a bunch maybe the internet is just too rough. The whole 'why don't you make a ROM' argument is retarded. I think Chevy Aveo is a POS car, and I don't need to build cars to state that opinion.
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
I've been looking into teaching myself Java and whatever else needed to fool around in Android.

Any tips on where I should start?
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
That is just what I read from another thread, the author claimed that that was what the employee told him.

My bad, sue me, I ain't perfect. :P
[HTC Sensation] webmaster:
I totally agree with the OP here. As I have stated before for some reason the Sensation is the "red headed step child" of the Android/XDA community. With the exception of the buggy ICS ROMs out there EVERY other ROM is based on CM7 or Sense. It truly is mind boggling that older, far less advanced phones have multitudes more AOSP ROMs to choose from and much more overall development. I personally use the non-ICS HyperSensation ROMs (which I HIGHLY recommend!) as they are the closest thing to AOSP you are going to get on this supposedly "high end" device HTC forgot about....
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
You stated my thoughts into better words than I.

Like I told everyone else, may seem like a complaint but it's more of a large confusion I'm currently in.

The Sensation went down a path I DID NOT expect it to or see coming.
[HTC Sensation] c19932:
edit: nothing
[HTC Sensation] KingDavid63:
I'm having a hard time finding tmobile stock rom.

Sent from my Revolver Powered Asus Transformer
[HTC Sensation] thelegendarylegends:
HTC never forget about our high end Sensation, in fact this phone is what they've been working on in the last months, software wise. And don't say HTC has forgotten about sensation if they don't develop AOSP Rom cos even Samsung doesn't focus on AOSP but on their ****ty Touchwiz UI. AND of course if uve been in android in a while, u will know like Samsung focusing on their UI, HTC is the Same. focusing on their Sense UI, in my opinion, the best option of custom skinned UI.

And HTC hasn't forgotten senny, they have been making improvement software wise on this new ICS sense that's gonna come out, it can be seen on these leaks :P

Sent from my sensational HTC sensation's xda app
[HTC Sensation] Rhiannon224:
Check the stickies in Development section, there is a thread there with all the official RUU. Use the last T Mo on the list if you are on T Mo US.

Edit: you are not US, have you checked that thread? Is yours there?
[HTC Sensation] nevrlow:
Basically what i said was if you dont like your choice of roms why not learn to dev yourself. Didnt know it would upset you lol....
[HTC Sensation] thelegendarylegends:
+1 :D to that
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
Try having a look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
In my opinion, HTC and Samsung should have never even started development on Sense and Touchwiz.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
They could say the same about many of the clone roms we have here...

I am happy to see people doing SOMETHING with the phone...But come on people?! Do we really need another ROM that is merely a clone of a more popular one? I keep seeing all of these idiot sounding ROMs pop up with nothing new in them except a theme of some sort.

I see people take a ROM such as InsertCoin and then replace the theme with on of their own before renaming it with some emo sounding crap. Then they ask for a donation. This has to stop. Its pathetic. Its also a waste of time. Want to develop but have nothing new to bring? Get on board with a tried and true ROM and help them with the mediocre tasks so you can learn more.

There are ROM creaters...Then there are ROM chefs...And then there are the people that pop a hotpocket into the microwave for dinner.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
:D

This post makes me happy
[HTC Sensation] FiddleGoose:
That was rather pleasing. :P
[HTC Sensation] KingDavid63:
No I am tmo us I haven't looked hard.. wanted eqs and apm.. ;-)
[HTC Sensation] nevrlow:
ZOMG BEATZ AUDIOZ