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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phositadc:
These pings are with my One S. My wife's galaxy nexus is always in the 800-1000 ms range on AT&T. I have no idea why but for the life of me I cannot get pings on her gnex to compare to my One S. So if you have a gnex your ping issues might be more attributable to your phone than to straight talk.

I'll try to post a screen shot of her pings later today.

-Sent from my HTC One S.-

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Only the T-Mobile branded One S (ie, NOT the international One S) has AT&T hspa+ bands. I think AT&T is 850/1900, and T-Mobile is 1700/2100.

I can confirm that I get full hspa+ on both T-Mobile and AT&T with my T-Mobile branded (but SIM unlocked, of course) One S.

Fyi the gnex and the One S are the only phones I can personally confirm get full hspa+ on both AT&T and T-Mobile, but I have heard that the T-Mobile branded galaxy S3 does too (but apparently the AT&T gs3 does NOT).

-Sent from my HTC One S.-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jaybeeunix:
GSM Arena's search engine lets you search by supported bands: http://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
So it's not simply a matter of finding phones with all four HSDPA bands? For example, GSMArena.com shows 45 phones that have all four bands:

http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sName=&idMaker=0&chkHSDPA850=selected&chkHSDPA1700=selected&chkHSDPA1900=selected&chkHSDPA2100=selected&idAvailability=0&YearAnnounced=0&nPriceLow=0&nPriceHigh=0&idCurrency=0&idFormFactor=0&idDualSIM=0&idQwerty=0&HeightMax=0&WidthMax=0&ThicknessMax=0&WeightMax=0&idOS=0&idOSVersion=0&idOSWhen=0&nminCPUMHz=0&nCPUCores=0&nminRAMMB=0&nminInternalStorageMB=0&idExpansionCard=0&idDisplay=0&nminDisplayX=0&nminDisplayY=0&nmaxDisplayX=0&nmaxDisplayY=0&fminDisplaySize=0&fmaxDisplaySize=0&nPixelDensity=0&idDisplayTech=0&idTouchscreen=0&idAccelerometer=0&idGyro=0&idCompass=0&id35mm=0&idCamera=0&idCameraFlash=0&idVideoRecorder=0&idSecondaryCamera=0&idGPS=0&bWLAN=0&idNFC=0&bEDGE=0&bGPRS=0&idBluetooth=0&bIR=0&bEmail=0&bWAP=0&bJava=0&idRadio=0&bMMS=0&idRingtones=0&sColor=&StandBy=0&TalkTime=0&sFreeText=

HTC One S only has HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100, right? So does this mean that you only need one of each band to be able to use both? For example, if the phone has 850 and 2100 only, would that work, or do you need all four bands?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jaybeeunix:
2100 on GSM Arena (and most everywhere else) means Band I, the "international" HSPA band. Although AWS/Band IV (the band TMO uses for HSPA) sits in part of the 2100 band (so 1700/2100 is technically correct), very few people actually call it "1700/2100" to prevent confusion with Band I 2100.

Under the best case to use HSPA on AT&T and TMO, you'd need AWS/1700/Band IV, CLR/850/Band V, and PCS/1900/Band II.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
So how does Chrikenn's HTC One S use both when it only has 850 / 900 / 2100?

A search for 850, 1700, and 1900 shows 45 phones. All of these will be able to use HSPA+ on AT&T and TMO?:

http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sName=&idMaker=0&chkHSDPA850=selected&chkHSDPA1700=selected&chkHSDPA1900=selected&idAvailability=0&YearAnnounced=0&nPriceLow=0&nPriceHigh=0&idCurrency=0&idFormFactor=0&idDualSIM=0&idQwerty=0&HeightMax=0&WidthMax=0&ThicknessMax=0&WeightMax=0&idOS=0&idOSVersion=0&idOSWhen=0&nminCPUMHz=0&nCPUCores=0&nminRAMMB=0&nminInternalStorageMB=0&idExpansionCard=0&idDisplay=0&nminDisplayX=0&nminDisplayY=0&nmaxDisplayX=0&nmaxDisplayY=0&fminDisplaySize=0&fmaxDisplaySize=0&nPixelDensity=0&idDisplayTech=0&idTouchscreen=0&idAccelerometer=0&idGyro=0&idCompass=0&id35mm=0&idCamera=0&idCameraFlash=0&idVideoRecorder=0&idSecondaryCamera=0&idGPS=0&bWLAN=0&idNFC=0&bEDGE=0&bGPRS=0&idBluetooth=0&bIR=0&bEmail=0&bWAP=0&bJava=0&idRadio=0&bMMS=0&idRingtones=0&sColor=&StandBy=0&TalkTime=0&sFreeText=
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jaybeeunix:
GSM Arena only lists the international One S. Here are the tech specs for TMO's: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4261

They should be able to. Though, I'd double check any phone's specs from a second source: Ideally the manufacturer of the phone or the carrier whose brand is on it. Additionally, be careful about model names: Many companies reuse names for different devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jaybeeunix:
One minor clarification: The GSM Arena search only lets you filter on HSPA: It doesn't specifically list the plus-ness in the search engine. You'll have to look at the HSDPA speed to determine what degree of plus-ness a given phone offers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
What is the max HSDPA and HSUPA for Straight Talk? Samsung Galaxy Nexus is HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps. Some other phones are HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps. If ST doesn't offer above 21 Mbps, then Galaxy Nexus would be fine.

This is a list of 4.5" or larger screens that support 850 / 1700 / 190:

Samsung Galaxy S II T989 / Samsung Hercules

Motorola ATRIX HD MB886

Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250M / Samsung GT-I9250M

Sony Xperia ion HSPA / Xperia ion lt28h

Samsung Galaxy S III T999 / Samsung SGH-T999

Samsung Galaxy Note T879

Samsung Galaxy S II X T989D / Samsung SGH-T989D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jswede:
Don't know, lookup which bands it uses and which network technologies and compare them to the ATT and T-Mobile bands. That will tell you. It will likely depend on which version of the SIII you purchase.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
Looks like the Samsung Galaxy S III T999 / Samsung SGH-T999 supports HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phositadc:
The tmobile one s definitely has 850/1700/1900/2100. I think you are looking at tech specs for the international one.

I've personally used mine on both tmo and att and it gets full hspa on both.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ml3000:
anyone know if I go buy a cheap ST phone from walmart, can I take that sim card, activate it and throw it in my nexus? Just dont want to have to wait for the mail.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] noneone:
Earlier posts report NO, ST phone sims only work in ST phones.

I have used TMO cheap phone sims in other GSM smartphones.

So, TMO yes, ST no, YMMV.

Good luck.

FOR OTHERS LOOKING FOR CHEAP USED PHONES ... I recommend the TMO galaxy S2 or att skyrocket flashed to TMO radio. With the S3 out, sometimes you can find a great deal on the S2, and it has faster data service and an SD card, but lower resolution than the gnex.

CHEAPEST solution I've found is a used tmo exhibit 2, slower dataspeeds, but, can be found for $100 used.

GL!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ml3000:
That really sucks, because ya I was able to do that with the T-Mobile phone that I bought at walmart the other day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
For those interested in Solavei 49.00 unlimited service they just posted a news release. From now until Sept 10 they are waiving the 49.00 activation fee and giving the second month of service FREE.

Also they have opened up a lane for people to sign up right now instead of having to wait until Sept 21 for the national launch.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phositadc:
Link? I'm still not convinced this is legit but for a $29 sim I might give it a try anyways. I don't see anything about choosing att or tmobile sim card. At what point do you do that?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
Well the former COO of Walmart is the COO for Solavei, and he is a very credible person. There is only one SIM card. If you have any questions PM me and I will try to help.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mr.Mischief:
There are only two Straight Talk phones that you can take the sim out of and stick it in another phone. Both are AT&T. The Nokia E71 is one, I forgot the other.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Well they do 3 day shipping. Even if you overnight it I bet it's gonna be cheaper than going to Walmart and buying a phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ml3000:
I don't mind buying a phone though.... just trying to get it sooner.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Hey man I'm not sure what your agenda is here, but could you give the Solavei stuff a rest for a bit? I think we get it at this point.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
I have no agenda, just sharing deals and special to save all of us money. I'm know different than you. We both share when we find discount coupons or specials so that others can save.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
So what do people think about Solavei? $4 a month more than Straight Talk for better cell reception (because roaming included) and 2GB more data.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phositadc:
if you want to do it, I'd def give it a try before the 49.00 activation fee kicks in. That's a huge ripoff that I'll never pay. Debating whether to sign up before it kicks in, but I think I might just stick to AT&T for the better coverage or the $30 T-Mobile plan for the lower price.

-Sent from my TMOUS HTC One S.-

-Stock/rooted 2.21 + 1.06s baseband-

-Hboot 1.06-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
Doesn't Solavei roam to AT&T? If so, wouldn't that mean it has better coverage since it has T-Mobile plus roaming to other carriers?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phositadc:
Eh supposedly but it will probably only roam if you aren't getting a tmo signal at all. For instance, 1 bar of edge will probably keep it from roaming, even if the att customer sitting next to you has full bars of hspa.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
Well I can tell you from my experience so far the coverage is much better. It will roam on to AT&T's network. I have many places I go that I had no coverage at all on my T-Mobile Prepaid that I now have coverage on.

I plan on doing a side by side comparison in two more weeks when I travel across America again to MD. One phone using Straight Talk AT&T and the other using Solavei.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gene_Bailey:
Where are you all going to get in with Solavei now?? Link? I Google'd it and came up with nothing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
Solavei is marketed through Authorized Solavei Affiliates. I don't want to post links as someone will think I'm spamming. I like the service and if I can answer any question I will, just send me a PM
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gene_Bailey:
Thanks man! Much appreciated. I'll be switching to them to try them out for a bit. Straight Talk was great the first month, and horrible the second month. They kept me throttled from DAY 1 of my service start date at less than 100kbps and it was awful. I called three times and none of them could/would fix it. And my phone is reporting 4 bars of HSPA+ and the settings say it's the HSPA+15 so I should be getting something better than that.. Right?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phositadc:
Would love to see the results of this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I live in Australia so this is how I go
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jswede:
IMHO anything at this price point is worth a try, as long as it's GSM based so you don't have to purchase another phone. I've been trying a different GMS MVNO every month just to see who I like the best. The most interesting thing to me is that Solavei is not a Tracfone subsidiary. It's plausible (pure speculation on my part) that they may have different throttling behaviors than the Tracfone subsidiaries. Hopefully more info will start to come out soon from people who are actually using Solavei.

I used Straight Talk in August. While it was acceptable for my use even though throttled, I would love faster speeds without paying too much more. I'm on Simple mobile this month and I am not getting throttled at all as far as I can tell. But unfortunately Simple mobile does not offer ATT roaming which I will require certain months of the year.

If Solavei ends up being more generous with data speeds it won't take much to get me to jump ship, considering the roaming/coverage areas that are being shown on their website. (fingers crossed)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Just noticed this on my Straight Talk account summary page. They're offering a $2.50/month discount if you sign up for auto-refill. Interesting considering they're already $5 cheaper than the other TracFone MVNOs. Still not as cheap as doing $45 no-tax refills from Walmart online, but getting close depending on your sales tax in your state.

Anyone else seen this?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] colonelcack:
Hey man I'm not sure what your agenda is here, but could you give the Straight Talk stuff a rest for a bit?

Lol

I think I'm going to be signing up for Solavei before that promotional period ends. SimpleMobile is nice but ATT roaming plus tmobile 4g speeds would be the shiaaaaaaat. Best option for me at least :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
:rolleyes: :p

Last time I checked, Straight Talk wasn't some random obscure new MVNO with questionable practices lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] noneone:
Well, I'm pretty sure Straight Talk doesn't pay normal folks ANYTHING to get others to sign up. BUT, that IS the basis for Solavei, they are "viral", don't have big marketing dollar plans, but pay normal folks a LOT if they get other folks to sign up.

Posting deals found on the web? GREAT IMO. Having a TMO (or ATT, or Solavei, or name your brand here) rep, who gets kickbacks for signing people up, post in this thread every time TMO / ATT / ST / Solavei / whomever has a new marketing fact, I see as different.

I like the Solavei concept. If they allow "lots" of 4g download over hotspot unthrottled, I'll like it even more, and likely will sign up. I like the fact that folks here have pointed it out. I'm a little suspicious when it gets pointed out and out and out and out, and, when it PAYS folks to sign others up, thereby incenting folks to keep posting about it over and over.

The description on how it pays folks sounds like a ton of other ponzi scheme type sell from home schemes, for everything from ADVOCARE nutritional products to surprise party lingerie. There is NOTHING new about the marketing / compensation sales scheme for Solavei as far as I can tell, its pretty standard stuff. Take marketing plan from industry A, use it to sell stuff in the cell service industry. Those that get in early makes lots of money. Those that get in late, still likely get a good product they can buy.

Part of the point of this thread is to find no contract / cheap / best value deals as possible that allow you to jump from provider to provider to find the best deal. Given Solavei is a "new deal" that fits into the "no contract so try them and see like any other MVNO", I would expect to see some discussion in this thread on them.

I'm just concerned that this thread will turn from "discuss cheap no contract options" into a sales forum for the newest ponzi sales scheme on the internet.

I like what I hear so far, just concerned. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
Well it sounds like you and I seem to agree on some of your points. First of all as you see from my profile I have been on XDA a long time, and I'm a former developer. And I have contributed to this thread with comments about T-Mobile, Straight Talk, and now Solavei. It should not be against the law to share user experiences. I mean if you do try it at some point don't you think you would share your views here also? If I did not post about the new promotion that saves people 98.00 how would they have known about it?

Also I don't spam the thread posting links in every post like I have seen on other sites.

There are some good things happening with Solavei and I hope the same as you that this thread stays clean and tasteful. People are just now starting to use Solavei and after their national launch there will be tons of people. I think it is good for this community and this thread for people to have user reviews from more than just one or two people.

As for the Ponzi scheme reference just do a little more research or contact me and I can point you to some things that will change your mind. just because two things look the same doesn't always mean they are.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] s9ortner:
I've been using solavei for almost a full day now and love it compared to ST. I live in metro Detroit and so far have had stronger signal and am even able to use my phone in my basement. The speed is doubled over ST, and have been pulling down 5-7mbps. No more random data disconnects!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
How are you using it when it's not launching until 9/21? Can we get it now?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
Yes they are letting people in early for testing. There are about 13000 people using it right now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chalk:
Does Solavei roam off of at&t 3G for data? T-Mobile only gets 2G where I live and has no coverage in the town I work, but if Solavei does roam data wise, I'll have to give them a try.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
Yes, they are still letting people in early for testing? If so, how do I get in?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
You will have to get in touch with a Authorized representative and ask for a invitation. I'm not going to post links in this thread. If you have any other questions I will try to help or you can shoot me a PM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jswede:
While there is ATT roaming included, Solavei will not allow you to activate in non T-Mobile areas in order to control their roaming costs. Hopefully someday that will change.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] atlgator:
Who else here thinks there should be no further mention of this MLM scheme here?

It's $30 for a SIM card, and $49 for a junk membership fee. So you're out $80 before you even know if it's worth a damn.

Further, it's GSM and in the US, that's either TMO or ATT. And there are countless MVNOs using those networks with similar priced plans or better, without a $50 junk fee.

Personally, I'm on Straight Talk and seeing 2-3 and sometimes 5 Mbps down in metro Atlanta. TMOs $30 prepaid plan offered the same or better (with worse coverage). I may never go with a post paid carrier again.

Again, this is a MLM scheme that doesn't belong here, right?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grayson73:
I don't want anything to do with MLM, but I would join Solavei if the product is good. $4/mo more than ST for 2GB more un-throttled data and roaming to AT&T sounds good to me. Also, they're waiving the $49 fee if you join before 9/10 or somethign. I'm just waiting to hear more reports.

Right now, I'm with VM trying to decide between ST and Solavei.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
First of all Solavei is not a scheme. And they are no different than other affiliate marketing strategies used by companies such as Amazon and direct TV etc. Regardless of your views of how their services are marketed, the fact remains they have a good product and sharing of individual views here is just as valuable as any of the other carriers.

Also the service is a stand alone pruduct. Referring or Marketing the service is 100% optional.

If you are on Straight Talk you might have noticed or heard about all their data problems. I used them before myself and aside from the data problems they are good, but flaky data allowments.

Solavei is going to be around whether some people like it or not.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jlczl:
This.

I think it has its place here as a stand alone product while leaving out any marketing by "members".

Personally I researched the CEO and that alone has turned me off from having anything to do with the company. That being said, it may be a good deal for some who want to try something other than the MVNO's we've been discussing up to now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] atlgator:
If it looks like a duck...

"If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands." - Douglas Adams.

People, save your $80 in start-up costs and avoid this scheme until a) it goes live b) users show screenshots of speed tests, c) users share their experiences over a few months.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
First of all this is not the thread to talk about the CEO of Solavei or the company in general. But to give those with doubt something to chew on I will make this one time only exception.

First of all don't believe everything you read on the internet. As to the CEO there are always two sides to every story. Have you heard his? I have.

Second does anyone think for one minuet T-Mobile would be evolved with Solavei if it was a questionable company or a scam? NO. Would T-Mobile get involved without vetting the management of Solavei? NO. I'm sure T-Mobile has seen both sides of the story and have internet access to read all the same stuff we see.

Third Give me one reason this guy: John Rittenhouse – Chief Operating Officer and former COO of Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Target, would be involved in Solavei if they were a scam. I assure you he did his homework first.

Fourth do you really think all of these people would be involved in a questionable company or a scam? NO

Jose Rojas – Head of Operations

Former JPMorgan Chase Payments executive, McKinsey & Co., U.S. Army aviator

Allyn Hebner – Head of Finance

Former chief accounting officer of T-Mobile and CFO of Motricity

Rick White – Head of Legal and Policy

Former U.S. congressman, attorney at Perkins Coie, CEO of Technet

Jim Ryan – Head of Products

Former head of Mobile Data Services of AT&T, Sprint, O2, CSMO at Motricity

Robert A. McFadden – Head of Sales

Former president of Viridian Network

Maria Pinchevsky – Head of Member Experience

Former VP of customer service at T-Mobile

Stan Simpliciano – Head of Mobile Network Services

Former T-Mobile head of MVNO/M2M, Naval aviator

Larry Wallace – Head of Corporate Development

Former VP of Global OEM and OS Services at Motricity

Jason Genthner – Head of Corporate Communications

Former communications executive at Dr Pepper Snapple Group

Jason McKinnis – Head of Marketing and Brand

Former head of brand and marketing communications at Motricity, Infospace

Board of Advisors and Investors

Sue Nokes

SVP of Asurion, former COO and CCO of T-Mobile

Jon Miller

Chief digital officer of News Corp, former chairman and CEO of AOL

David Limp

VP of Amazon, former CSO of Palm and Liberate

Brian Turner

Former CFO of Coinstar (Redbox), RealNetworks, and Bsquare

Roland Van de Meer

Managing director of Fuse Capital, former founder and managing partner of ComVentures

Brian Long

Managing partner of Atlantic Bridge Capital, founder of Parthus Technologies

David Burnett

Managing Member of Bright Rivers Capital, on the board of the Joshua Green Corporation

Eddie Lazarus

Former chief of staff of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), attorney Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld

And especially Eddie Lazarus is not going to be a investor or adviser to Solavei if he had any doubt in the management team.

Just use a little common sense and you can see while this company new, it is real, and it is not a scam.

Now that that is out of the way I hope we see reports from others to share their experiences.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] atlgator:
I don't care if my mother is the CFO. This is network marketing and any discussion about it is here is advertising. You can't sign up online for it. You have to seek a distributor to buy in.

Quack. Quack.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] urinsane:
Bobsbbq: I think many have fewer doubts about the company and more doubts about your position and reasons for defending/getting people signed up. I assume you are Robert S. who I have been corresponding with via email, and you likely be getting quite a few referrals through this thread; one of them will likely be me.

People may be less aggressive towards your responses if you started your own Solavei thread rather than defending the company in this thread, and allowing this to remain a place for people to discuss their experiences with the various carriers. Due to the nature of the referral system, it is hard to view you as an unbiased source. No offense intended.

Just my thoughts.. personally I think it could be a great way to start moving my friends and family who I have been talking to prepaid about for months and are interested in lowering their phone bills, but not until I have a chance to experience it for myself and hear from other sources.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bobsbbq:
Be careful of making assumptions. We will let other users post their comments on the new service.