yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Rezound] sungal:
I agree, recent apps isn't that big of a deal lol
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
You will get the exact same as you do know. Maybe a hair better because all of the Sense synch and other garbage is removed but you will not see a significant change.

Two hours of screen time with this devive and this version of the leak is the killer for you. Have you ever tried to manually lower the birghtness of the screeen? That may help you some.

You are indeed correct. Screen time is not realy high for me especially because I am working this weekend. But podcast'ing was about 6 hours in that 24 hr period.

Alex Jones / www.infowars.com FTW!

Pandora is a but drainer on this version of ICS. Its horrid. Pandor Devs need to work something out with HTC devs on this. I get a lot of complaints about pandora and if you add that to bluetooth streaming... Your day will be ruined. I hope they read this and decide to work together to figure out the issue because I am sure its not somthing I can compensate for at my level. This is a kernel related issue.

Wait... Im getting confused. What status bar are you using?
[HTC Rezound] Piaband:
Hey Scott.

I was wondering if you have time, could you port the camera app from your senseless version to this version? I really miss the panoramic picture options from my nexus s with aosp ics.

Sent from my rooted HRC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
I lowered the screen to about 30% and I noticed some improvement. It's weird cause Pandora doesn't have that bad battery drain for me.
[HTC Rezound] Po1soNNN:
i really want to flash to 4.1 but im really lazy when it comes to backing up and restoring things :)
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
The senselss verison has the indentical camera as this one.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
I have a question for all the "business profesionals" out there...

Do you feel you would enjoy a ROM similiar in desgin to this one but with even more garbage removed? Not a full Senseless verison but a happy medium? I was thinking of doing a ROM that has Sense Launcher and all the Sense Widgets but removed EVERYTHING else liek Friendstream, Peep, all the social networking stuff.

Would anyone be interested in this? Kinda think of it as a CleanROM Extended Cut?

Edit: Or better stated: CleanROM Lite?

Let me know if anyone would choose this over the current iterations because if so I will post it. If not I will just put it with all the all cool "at the time" idea's that I had.

-Scott
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
I would definitely be all over this. I don't use facebook, twitter, or any social networking for that matter. Please do this.
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
That, to me, would be the perfect ROM for me so if you do build it, I will use it and click the "Thank" button ;)

I don't know a lot about ROMs, but this sounds like it could be done with a script no? Take CleanROM 4.1 and remove more HTC stuff.
[HTC Rezound] da84tona:
I use my phone heavily for business purposes as well heavily off business hours, and I actually love this version of your rom as it is. I would be interested in a rom with those things you mentioned removed, but probably too lazy to re-flash, as I'm horrible about losing things when I re-flash.

tldr; Your rom is great as it is!
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Ok, enough said. I figured people would go for it because I *HATE* Facebook, Twitter, crap, etc, etc etc...

I will only leave the weather and Sense Clock, All other HTC stuff will be gone.

If anyone has any suggestions make them now before I finalize my plans.

Im also debating... Should I call it CleanROM Lite or should I call it CleanROM Prefossional Edition?
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
Professional Edition is better.

I don't have a single social media app on my device.

What other htc stuff is their besides the weather and sense clock? Apps like mail?
[HTC Rezound] sungal:
I think that would be great. I do use Facebook but no problem installing it on my own. I also do like the sense widgets, mostly the calendar and people. Are you planning on removing most of the widgets? What other HTC stuff are you talking about removing? lol Oh and I like CleanROM Lite ;)
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
No, I consider Calendar and people a "business need" I am mostly refering to any Social networking and Verizon stuff.

When I make this ROM you will not have access to things like Verizon Videos, my Verizon, NFL crap, etc. No Sense integration with the social networking. You cal always install facebook, etc. But it wont integrate with friendstream because it wont be there.

Right. Mail, Messaging, Dialer would all stay.

I'll to come up with more details but I am stuck at work as I hash this out in my head.
[HTC Rezound] sungal:
I don't use friendstream so no prob there...I also don't want any Verizon stuff so that's cool haha!
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Yeah, all of the stuff sits in the background, active, chewing battery and CPU cycles. When I make a ROM for my own phone, all that junk goes.

And Back up Assistant is the first thing that will go!

EDITL: Forogot abot Flicker... Thats going!
[HTC Rezound] sungal:
Sounds awesome - I say GO FOR IT!! :)

And yeah, Backup assistant and Flicker can go too!! :p
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
Yea, I delete several after the cleanrom. I delete the mail.apk and the browser.apk righ ton the top of my head. I think I delete vmm, facebook, friendster. Last time it was 30 apk files.

Just wondering what is "HTC" that would get deleted.
[HTC Rezound] gharris040604:
Hey Scott would u still make this version of the Rom

Sent from my Vigor as my gnex sits in timeout.
[HTC Rezound] RomsWell:
I'm prolly running that version alrdy :p lol. First thing I do is clear out the rest of the garbage. Maybe instead of u having to track another thread u could add a tweak/script to remove extra bloat. Unless u want too. But that way users get what they want outta the rom. I dunno food for thought. Go ScottRoms!!!!
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Ok here are my initial thoughts for removal....

Facbook, Footprints, friendstream, Google+ / Messenger, Mobile IM (dont know how I even left that one in to begin with!), My Verizon Mobile, News, Talk (debatebale right now)

Now, along with all those seemingly inoccous apss are a crap load opf other smaller dependcy apps that run all the time that will also be removed.
[HTC Rezound] bkrickles:
Great idea and I like professional edition

Thanks for all the hard work
[HTC Rezound] ViperPyro:
Just out of curiosity, if you are just removing more apps from CR, couldn't the user just use any of the 100 options to do it as he/she sees fit? Like the densensing tools in this subforum, or titanium to freeze, or root explorer to delete, etc. The DE Senseless is obviously much more than that.

I'm not trying to say it isn't a good idea, just that if you are only removing a couple more apps, is it worth the development? If you are changing the themes or modifying more libs and whatnot, then carry on I guess, haha.
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
I would think for the most part it would just be a matter of removing the apks in the customize folder? If that's the case it wouldn't take long.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Nah, I would want a seperate thread because removing bloat acn always leed to some un-intended side affect that may be harder to track down.

Yep, any user could do just that. But a lot of people do nto feel comfortable doing it themeselves and would rather have a "pro" do it for them. Thats the whole point of custom ROMS. Hell, any user here, IMHO could just get the leaked RUU and create there own CleanROM from scratch, Add some tweaks, make some vuisual changes, etc.. lol. But they come to me for my crack, I mean ROMS, instead of making there own.

It boils down to skillset, confidence, and time!
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Doing it properly takes more time than that. Especially if you want to get all the little things behind the seen no one ever sees.
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Awesome, can't wait... How about name it CleanROM SLICK!

Edit: Or Trimmed up CleanROM.... CleanROM Trimmed?
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
Count me in for the lite version as well.

Tastes great, less filling.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Only if you use CleanWIPE 10x Edition before you flash ;)
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Will 5x suffice?:D
[HTC Rezound] ViperPyro:
Haha all true for sure! Your work is much appreciated, I just meant that catering to ever possible configuration might be a bit much. Go for it!
[HTC Rezound] Nic2112:
Sure, if you run it twice
[HTC Rezound] graymonkey44:
Touche....
[HTC Rezound] Caladus:
I was wondering if there was a way a user could download CleanROM and add apk's for apps and the like to it so when they reflash it will install all of them along with the ROM?

Probably should just store said apks in the sd card and reinstall each time I flash.

Sent from my Rezound. CleanROM 4.1
[HTC Rezound] prdog1:
Unzip and add away.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Most apps can be added to /data/app/ before flashing.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
lol don't get caught
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Con, can you please put this in a flashable zip format to make life easier for me?

Thanks!
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
Scott, I dedicate my signature to you and your badass rom, lol

EDIT: and yes, i copied you for now until I can find a font I like better :D
[HTC Rezound] con247:
yeah give me just a minute.
[HTC Rezound] eagle20g:
Can any help out here. I'm completely stuck.

I keep getting the main version is older

I've tried other PH files n it just keeps me on a GB version . WTH am I doing wrong
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Attached. If for some reason it doesn't work, it is possible it is the zip and not my fix. I found the quickest zip template I could and the format was a little strange. But I edited what needed to be fixed so it should work the same as putting in rom.zip and flashing.
[HTC Rezound] j0eh4x:
Open ur sd card on ur pc and replace android-info.txt in your PH98IMG.zip with the android-info.txt in this post

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21418443

and flash via bootloader... worked for me
[HTC Rezound] SOGJC:
I'm in data when i try sign in and luck.

I'm going to flash the rom again and wipe everything and see what happen. I'll report back later.
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
Waaaait!!!! :D

Try this method first. It worked for me. Also make sure you sign into My Verizon first before you try to sign into NFL.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Ok, I lookeda t updater and it looks fine to me... Gonna try this now... I only have 15 MInutes to do it... BUt it should work.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
I need someone to write up a definitive "mainver" Q/A thread. My thread is getting pounded with this and its not to do with my ROM. Can someone make a post or an OP and I will link to?

No time for this myself... Working on 4.0.3.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Ill try to make a Q&A.

Have you tried my datafix yet?
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
I just flashed and wiped... Booting now

(Wow that kinda sounds perverted)

IM at work so....
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Either the zip didint flash or the fix doesnt work... I posted an Empty zip I made for Rezound in Senseless. I need and try it with that because I know 100% that zip works.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Wait, I can just pull my status bar zip.... Duhhh, lol
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
NVM again... I am at work... I cant do crap for dev while I am here.

Can you pull my status bar from here and drop it in the /system folder and del /app and /framework and try posting that?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1432412
[HTC Rezound] con247:
I think I missed a capital letter so that might have been the issue. I am making that q&a now.
[HTC Rezound] Droidel:
Flashed just fine for me.

But i'm having problems with it.

While browsing xda forums in browser i tried replying to a post (portrait) i then flipped phone to horizontal mode and it messes up the screen, see attached screenshot.

Another issue is heavy battery drain with little to no usage, kills phone in about 4 hours.

Data drops from 4g to 3g then to bars. To get data working it needs a reboot. It keeps dropping it often.

Is there a menu setting to set it to CDMA only?
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
I would recommend another clean flash if you're having battery issues. Also you might want to try using something like Antutu CPU Master to adjust the screen off clock speed. That's the only profile I use besides the main profile and I am running 12 hours on battery, 2 hours screen on, and still have 71% battery left.

EDIT: I have been on wifi for this test, but I get similar numbers with 4g and don't have data drops. But you can go into settings>mobile network>and change to CDMA only if that helps.
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
You realize this is a Sense based ROM right?
[HTC Rezound] prdog1:
http://www.scottsroms.com/showthrea...ing-v1-0-10-12-2011?p=865&viewfull=1#post865:)
[HTC Rezound] rileyd5:
I'm in Scott. Loving Senseless at the moment but would try this lite version as well so I can bounce back to regular sense from Apex. Udaman!
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Damn, I keep forgetting about my own tutorials!

I need to hire you on the teams as the Administrative Helper. You can remind me of all the tools and tutorials I wrote, lol
[HTC Rezound] Piaband:
When I asked over in that thread, they said it had he panoramic camera. Unless I'm missing aonething, I don't think this Rom has that so I guess they were wrong?

Maybe they didn't know what I meant.

Sent from my rooted HRC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
Right, that's why this would be idea. For me, I don't know all the little things so this would be better than just deleted the apks
[HTC Rezound] D8nkE:
I'm definitely in! I routinely delete a ton of apks, including rosie, b4 flashing. I'm thinking CleanROM w/ Second Rinse:)
[HTC Rezound] DbZ Gokuu:
I would very much enjoy this :) I came back to CR from CR DE because for the first time in my life, I missed Rosie :( but I agree all the HTC social networking stuff is crap and needs to go.

Sent from my Ice Cream covered Rezound
[HTC Rezound] wmaudio:
Can someone either point me to or create a list of things I should disable after flashing this (or any other) ROM? I'm referring to HTC and other system-related settings. Thanks!
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
You bet!

Only if you do it twice!
[HTC Rezound] MakisupaPig:
It's there. Just touch Scenes and select Panorama.
[HTC Rezound] RoyHinkley:
I'm really liking DE but I do miss things like the calendar widget. Don't know of that's enough to make me switch but I would probably at least try it. I have a suggestion for the name, though: CleanROM AE (Adult Edition).

Sent from my blah blah blah using yada yada yada
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Exactly!

Have you checked out CleanROM Developer Edition? It has no Rosie!

Yep!

There is a post around here but I would prefer we leave that info in that post as it will derail this thread really fast.

Thanks!
[HTC Rezound] racinwarrior:
Pretty much exactly what I do to my own Rom

sent from a portable telephone
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Yeah, this is going to be fun. Looks like enough people will download it to make it worth while.

CleanROM Profesional Series - For the business profesional!
[HTC Rezound] D8nkE:
I checked it out when it was alpha. I was under the impression that not everything was working and this ROM just runs great. I'm actually still running 4.0 on mine and haven't upgraded my wife's to the new firmware yet. I figured you would come out with an update soon and I'd updated them then. I've been side tracked by my new Kindle fire for the past week.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Yes, the first build was Alpha but the next day I released the CleanROM Dev Edition 1.0 Final. Its rock solid man.

How do you like that fire? I already have a Gal Tab 10.1 and a HTC Flyer but I was tempted to pick up a Kindle Fire. What do you think of it?
[HTC Rezound] wmaudio:
Would you happen to have the link to that post or thread?
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Ok, I just updated the op as I have been trolling thgroug the Themes and Apps Sub Forum. I dont get out of my own threads much. Too much drama everywhere else...

BUt I have found some pretty good mods and I updated the OP to reflect those mods but I am re-posting them here because most people who have already flashed the ROM will not re-read the op, lol
[HTC Rezound] ViperPyro:
Related:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1532366
[HTC Rezound] D8nkE:
It nice for what it is. After trying the 3 "main" ROMs I've settled on Cm7 until the kernel gets fixed for HWA on ICS. It will be really nice when everything works on ICS. I think it's definitely worth the 199. My kids are jealous now that they got iPod touchs and see what they could have gotten.
[HTC Rezound] Itismetravis:
can someone tell me how to perm root after following the instructions? I reflashed recovery and im on clean rom but everything ive tried for perm rooting seems to work but titanium still says i dont have root. superuser is working though. any thoughts?
[HTC Rezound] nev310:
maybe reflash. This room is fully rooted
[HTC Rezound] wmaudio:
OK well now I've screwed up somehow. A couple of times I have used TB to freeze a few things that I thought weren't necessary, but then every time I would press the home key, I'd get the white screen with the green HTC in the center for a few seconds, and then Sense would load my home screen. Each time, after unfreezing various things to get it to stop and finally "unfreezing all," everything would be fine again. However, I just tried to do it again and had the same experience, but this time after "unfreezing all," Sense works fine for the home screens but it's using not using Sense for the lock screen and I can't get the Sense lock screen back. Wonder what I did?

EDIT - Nevermind. Somehow the option got enabled to use ASOP lockscreen in Scott's Tweaks app. Sorry, and thanks.
[HTC Rezound] prdog1:
I read everything. lol
[HTC Rezound] yoitsbry:
I am having this same exact issue, I have searched the thread for an answer and have not found one. Anyone know what the deal is with this? Vibration mode can be activated and the phone will never vibrate.
[HTC Rezound] Fergusonfox7:
It should vibrate for calls, But for it to vibrate through messages go to messages>menu>settings>notifications>vibrate. Make sure vibrate is checked.. :D
[HTC Rezound] nev310:
What is wake lock and surfaceflinger

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] Quantumrabbit:
I would personally love that.

As a business user who uses exchange and those such features and always uninstalls or deletes peep/friendstream/and dozens of others... that'd be wonderful.

Based on your later post... I'm happy to see everything you'd delete... Talk would be something I want to keep personally, we use that at work to stay in touch around sites.

I would be all for axing car panel, VZW navigation, all those sorts of guys, too.

Namewise, I don't care how you go, but something like Squeaky CleanROM or another play on it being even more clean might be entertaining. Food for thought.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Wake Lock is bad, its not an application.

I beleive surface flinger is what controls parts of the video drivers.
[HTC Rezound] nev310:
I never saw them in gb. Right now I can't get a few apps to work and a few I tried that did wanted me to login again.

I read somewhere somebody or a few other people where having the same overheating and bad battery life.
[HTC Rezound] rockingondrums:
Wakelock would not cause your login credentials to be erased. Wakelock is simply a state on an Android phone when it is performing some kind of function with the screen off. So not idle. Excessive wakelock will reduce battery life. One time, I had the Google backup service running 100% of the time. I just had to restart the phone to fix it. There's a free app on XDA. Don't have the link but I'm sure if you google " BetterBattery Stats XDA " you'll find it.

Edit: It also has nothing to do with your apps not running. If anything, it means an app or service is running too much (if it's a very big metric)
[HTC Rezound] nev310:
Yes I know it has nothing to do with my other problems but it does explain my horrible standby time I got today.

Is deep sleep enabled on this rom?

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] maximus20895:
Do you constantly charge it? It seems you charged it like 15 times in two days.

Where were you that let your battery get to 37 degrees!
[HTC Rezound] nev310:
I think thats when I had to change batteries

my phone dies so fast like a % every few mins like just typing this it went down a %.

Also today it went from 93 to 83 in like 4 hours with the screen off in my pocket and I didn't turn it on.

Right this second it is warming my hands.

Edit : 3 % now with screen brightness where I can barely see it.

Sent from my HTC Rezound
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Correct

No man, this is what I have been trying to tell you (or maybe someone else). There is a bug in the kernel when the screen is on. It causes the frequencies to go ballistic. Under normal conditions if your phone is idle it would just stay on a low freq but you can see it keeps maxing out.

This is the problem that affects the minority of people and is what causes heat and excessive drain. If you hold the throttle down in your car you would see it heat up quickier and the gas needle would go down quicker. Same thing with the kernel, its some sort of throttle condition. No one has been able to find a fix for it yet. The more you have your screen on the more exponential the problem will be and the hotter the phone will get.

Other people have the same issue you do and they have figured out work arounds. I think someone said changing the governor to conservative helps but I have not tried it myself. I dont have the problem or it is not severe enough to affect my battery. I get 24 hours and that is fine with me. Granted on GB I could go 48 hours so I guess it does affect my battery but not like yours as you can see.

Im sure those with the same problem can chime in and try to give you some tips to keep it under control. Otherwise we will have to wait for the next leak from HTC and hope they fix it.
[HTC Rezound] nev310:
What is different in the kernel in this rom and the one in clean 3.6 because I didn't have this problem with that rom. I still think it might be more to do with the radio.

I tried conservative but out didn't help ondemand is better and I set the max to like 1.3 GHz

Right now i am reinstalling all my apps after 10x wipe and flash of 4.1 and noticed some of my apps arent available in the market any more with this rom.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
3.6 Used a completely different kernel. I am almost tempted to have you try the 3.6 kernel to see what happens.
[HTC Rezound] nev310:
I might try it tomorow. I dont know if I still have it saved or not.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Im making some flashable packages now...
[HTC Rezound] 1heffer:
10x wipe, haha! Wtf? Ftw!
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
ARG... had to wipe my computer... now fastboot will not work.

Installed the HTC drivers I have, but no go.

ADB works... shows a connected device, but fastboot give a "waiting on device" message and stays there... even tried some of the tools here.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Need Testers!

Need Testers!​

I have made a kernel package from the 3.0.13 kernel for people to test. The thread is http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1565293

If you are having the excessive drain and heat issues that some report can you please help me test the theory that the kernel is the culprit?
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
CleanROM Professional Edition 4.1 Posted!

CleanROM Professional Edition 4.1 Posted!

This is the Pro Edition of CleanROM 4.1

This ROM is identical to CleanROM 4.1 with the exception it is even cleaner;

The following are removed in this build:

All Social Networking apps and libraries

HTC Reader

Verizon Instant Messenger

Verizon Back up Service

Verizon Media Manager

Plus One

Picasa

MD5: 5A2D9531B97D4E2D0BEF778EB40CFDFF
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Scott... any idea why fastboot will not work but adb does for me?

Maybe it is the driver... got a copy of the HTC drivers you use?

I am on cleanROM 3.6 BTW
[HTC Rezound] prdog1:
I just installed the HTC sync drivers and then turned sync off.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Its uploading now: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31360541/HTCDriver3.0.0.007.zip

Give it 10 minutes. Its both the drivers you need.