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[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Croak:
I have a Note, and I have a Tab 8.9 LTE (not Tegra!) and an SGS2.

I haven't touched the SGS2 in three weeks. I rarely use the Tab now. I use the hell out of my Note. I also have a 1st-gen Tab 7" 3G, which is now a very expensive alarm clock.

That said, I'm still going to buy a 7.7 3G. It's just too sexy to resist that big SAMOLED HD Plus display combined with Exynos, in a thin, mostly metal case.

Don't know how much real use I'll get out of it if I keep the Note though.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] SpenZerX:
I have an SGN 5.3 and an SGT10.1V

I sold my SGT 7. Its to small for home use an to big for mobile use.

There is no need for an new SGT 7.7.

An new Tab with 10.1 Amoled and full hd screen compatible with google tv resolution would be great.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] nascar24usa:
Good Read

Nice job of evaluating the two products. I have both the Note and the Tab 7.7. I concur both are extremely good products. The only negative I have found is the font size with the 7.7 appears to be half of the Note size. I wish Tab 7.7 font size would at least match the size of the smaller Note, then a toss up on which is best. Then it becomes per user's needs and interests. Currently, unless something can be done (ICS 4.2?) then readability becomes a real issue, and I would have to select the Note. perhaps all the available software has to catch up with the increased resolutions of the screens. Maybe most software programs are written to work on a 5.3" screen, but lose it when you go to a tablet with 1280X800 resolution. I read the next Prime will be 1920X1200. If true, and if font small now due to increased resolution, or whatever the reasons, how would you even see print with this resolution?

I did have a Tab 7 Plus for a month late last year, with 1024 X 600 resolution, and all software seemed to be readable, not anymore.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] FernandoMiguel:
I have gone by two Notes by now!

I'm waiting for my 7.7 to get home!

for me, Note requires me to stop doing what ever im doing and use both hands to do it (unlike my 4.2" DHD). so if i have to use both hands, i rather have a bigger screen (and bigger bat).

i do take a lot of photos for internet posting. shame the sensor is worse :(
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Sleek69:
I'd say wait for a quad core galaxy tab if you can, if not the note is the way to go.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] AllGamer:
Thanks Jade Eyed Wolf very good info & more food for thoughts before making the final purchase :D

... i still can't make up my mind ! LOL :p i like them both

See, this is EXACTLY one of the points that is bothering the most about the Note, i really like the Note, but being only 5.3 is a really odd and weird side, which i need to use both hands to use it, but the screen readability is not better than those on 4.5"

the resolution is larger, but everything else it seems like compressed due the size of the 5.3 screen

now this is the thing that is not really what you believe

both Note and 7.7 runs at the same resolution, so naturally on the 7.7 every thing looks enlarged and easier to read, while both occupaying the same space in relation to the resolution, all these will become more obvious when everything runs 4.x, instead of 3.x vs 2.3.x and all showing different things.

the truth is most of the apps are designed for the old "HD" resolution which was 800x480 the new "HD v2.0" is 1280x800, so anything that you see blurry are probably old 800x480 apps/games displayed (enlarged) on the 1280x800 screen

as Apps/Games maker updates their graphics and fonts to match the 1280x800 resolution screens, you'll see better and crispier text & picture quality

Personally my dilemma is that, i want to see bigger pictures and text on the same 1280x800 scale, that's why i like the 7.7 more it's less of a strain for my eyes, but the lower quality Camera and lack of the Pen and other nice features from the Note, makes is a real hard decision to lock on to either one

if it's all pure like like as in good package of everything i want, i'd have to default to the Note, but... the only turn down on the Note is it's 5.3" screen size

aaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhhhhh.... i'm torn between the two, can't make up my mind :p

maybe i should wait for the 10.1" SAMOLED version to come out before i revisit my purchase options :D

currently that's the last thing that concerns me

once you hit dual core, any extra core are just bonus

all i use my phone/tablet most for is webbing, emails, text, phone calls, games, apps, videos and music, the any extra core will only benefit heavy 3D Games, which i don't have that much luxury of time to play with

as the only times i'll be playing any game is in a bus/subway, bus stop, waiting room, doctor office, restaurant waiting for food or people to arrive, and stuff like that

any good heavy 3D game will usually require you to sit there and play for a good 30 min before you archive progress or able to reach to the next Save Point... so no, not worth it
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] paulikxp:
The Note is too big to be an allday phone, the 10.1 is far too big and heavy to be used as a mobile device. The perfect size would be the one of the old 7" but of course the 7.7 is almost the same size and still extremely portable. I can chat on it, use video calls, browse, read my RSS feeds, emails and a lot more. It's my daily companion as the 7" was before and I'm absolutely addicted to either of them.

As you can see, opinions and favours differ very much.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Thanks for your comments AllGamer! :)

Might I suggest that if you're planning on keeping your SGS2 with you as your main camera and phone device, perhaps you might be more interested in the P6810 instead (wifi-only 7.7)? Seems a bit of a waste having a 3G radio if you're just going to keep it off all the time anyway. Main reason I sold my 3G 8.9 actually.

Pairing up a P6810 with an SGS2, along with a very useful app called Tablet Talk would be a very mean combination indeed! I used to do that with my 8.9 and SGS2, and it was fantastic!

Also, I totally agree with you on the 7.7 inch screen being the perfect sweet spot. I should mention as well that thumb-typing in portrait has never been easier! ;)

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I wasn't aware that the 7.7 had the necessary hardware built-in to support s-pen functionality. Can you show me a source which claims this?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ckyllr:
Doesn't this involve having a Wacom digitizer overlay across the screen? I need proof as well.

That reminds... I just bought the galaxy Note and now I'm comtemplating on the Galaxy Tab 7.7 as well.... But as this thread points out, I don't think there is a point of having both the Note and the Tab 7.7 right?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Croak:
Why not? Note goes in my pocket and is everywhere I am....Tab 7.7 is not so portable, but still awesome.

TL;DR, if you can make a case for a smaller smartphone and a Tab, you can make a case for a Note and a Tab 7.7 too.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jimmy34742:
Read the review and the YouTube video, and fcuk me an hour later I've got one. $21,000NT I hate you
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
Seeing how Wacom Digitizer from the note doesn't work on my S2, spen from my note won't work on 7.7 either

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It's really not the same comparison as the SGS vs SGS II since the pentile issue is being made up by the higher resolution and pixel density

I wouldn't call the SGS pentile usage worries as an exaggerated concern. There was a huge jump in pic quality when i moved up to S2's 4.3" from the captivate's 4" screen

in terms of color tone, Note seems to be showing more natural tone than my S2

Like i said earlier, wacom digitizer stylus requires hardware support since it's not based on capacitive
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
LMAO!! Well, you're welcome! Spread the hate bro! But enjoy that 7.7 when it arrives ;)

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I agree. However, there's another thread here about how the display controller used in the 7.7 supposedly has active digitizer hardware capabilities. That's why I was saying that perhaps all that is needed is the software support.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] AllGamer:
as both of you have pointed out at the moment this is still a theory, we need a coder/hacker that have access to both devices and figure out how to enable it in the 7.7

knowing Samsung they always take the easy route in the assembly lane, they always have goodies hidden under the hood, and just need a good coder to unlock the hidden features.

i wouldn't be surprised if it can be done, yet i wouldn't be disappointed even if it can not be done, but it's worth a try

either case we are slightly off topic here, we should open another topic to discuss about that possibility

so going back on topic about Note vs 7.7 ... i still have not yet made up my mind :D

i like them both the 7.7 is winning my vote for the larger size alone, but i still would prefer the features and specs of the note, but there's no point upgrading to the Note when i already have a SGS2
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
I just recently updated my Note to its latest available firmware (LA4) to see what that would do, but honestly, it still feels VERY laggy compared to my 7.7

I mean, it's not so bad to the point that it isn't functional or anything like that, but still, for a 1.4ghz dual core? Come on... I blame Gingerbread. Can't wait to see what both devices are like once they get official ICS!

In the mean time, I think I'll probably be making a couple more videos on YouTube. I know I at least want to make a short video showing how well my cheapo velcro car mount for the 7.7 works! Maybe I'll make another short one comparing the Note and the 7.7 side by side so you all can see what I mean by the lag on the Note...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jimmy34742:
Actually, in my hateful post above, I meant that right after your video, I walked into a local store here in Taiwan and brought one home!

I'd like to see a demonstration of the lag you describe. There might be mirco lag here and there, but I don't perceive lag with my Note to the degree that I can remember it. I'm getting about the same micro lag experience with my 7.7, but also some serious delays every once in a while. In fact, when I first loaded all my apps from the Market, my 7.7 was quite bogged down until I removed from the home screen all the apps that Market deposited there by default. I also have seriously glitchy behavior in Folder Organizer: it scrolls through the labels and apps like it's on a 256 baud modem. I'd like to presume that the dev hasn't made the necessary adjustments yet for GB. I've had other glitches that were more than micro, but now that I have all my stuff installed and configured, I'll pay more serious attention to the difference between my Note and 7.7.

...via tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
If you're coming from the S2, it's noticeable. As for the 7.7 vs note, it's expected since HC has gpu acceleration baked in and gb doesnt
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] MagicMan3:
I've wanted the 7.7 since I first heard about it, but I've been unsure now that I have the Galaxy Nexus, but this app makes it VERY tempting. With the tabs I've had in the past I always hated having to put the tab down to answer a text, this app could pretty much make phone usage when around the house non-existent.

I've been looking around and it looks like at the moment the only place to pick it up in Canada is Ebay, not a horrible thing, but would be nice to buy local.
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] EarlZ:
How is the build quality on the 7.7's screen? Does it have the same issue as the galaxy s2 and note?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
The screen build quality is perfect. I never did experience any quality issues with my Note, but my GS2 did ever so slightly have the yellow tint, but honestly, in my case it was so alight that I might never have noticed if no one ever pointed it out.

Either way, no such issues with screen build quality.

That said, I know a lot of you are bothered by the colour bandind associated with displaying 16bit textures, but that's a software issue, not a build quality concern...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] the_eclectic1:
Thanks for your informative post Jade Eyed Wolf. I think you made my mind up. I have been thinking of getting a tablet. For the longest time I have been leaning towards the Tab8.9, but that took over 6 months to launch here.

Ever since I had the Nexus One, I fell in love with the Amoled display. I was a big HTC fan so had several of their devices, but they have also had S-LCD displays, and having lived with S-LCD for the past year, I came back to Amoleds in a big way. I now have 2 GNotes, the black and white. I dont think I can tolerate using non-Amoled for my future display device. HD Super Amoled Plus is a big pull factor for me.

To those torn between the 2 excellent choices, if it is within your means, I would suggest getting both. I plan to use the Notes more as phones and the Tab7.7 more for web surfing/reading. I dont play 3D games, so having quad core is probably overkill for me, or i would have gone for the Transformer Prime [1920x1200].
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jimmy34742:
oh, for sure the S2 is more than lag free. I'm just saying that I'm finding the 7.7 roughly comparable to my Note in terms of lag. plus, my 7.7 has manifested a few glitches. so I have to say the Note is the smoother of the two.

...Galaxy 7.7, via tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
Really? I have had completely the opposite experience between my Note and my 7.7... Like seriously, my 7.7 has been putting my roommate's iPad 2 to shame in terms of overall smoothness, quick responses, and capabilities. My Note, on the other hand, is just disappointingly full of chop and lag...
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jimmy34742:
hmmm, well this is a bit discouraging. I'm quite sure at this point that it's not just subjective perception on my part, but I'm experiencing ongoing micro glitches. As it stands, I guess we're left with assuming that's it's all due to the talents of the devs of the particular apps we like to use. Or, worse, the possibility that I'm configuring something suboptimally somewhere. Or, even worse, the possibility of a certain lemony scent emanating from my hardware...

...Galaxy 7.7, via tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] ph00ny:
Which firmware on the Note?
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] Jade Eyed Wolf:
LA4. Whatever the latest one is (from like a week ago).
[Galaxy Tab 7.7 General] AllGamer:
and at last the decision became clear to me, and went ahead with the Galaxy NOTE :D

2 simple reasons, it was hard to find the 7.7 locally, and if i were to get the 7.7 i wanted at least the 32 GB or 64 GB version, which non were available here.

on the other hand the G'note is only available on 16GB for the North American models, so no much of a choice there, but most importantly the G'note works 3G/4G on AWS 1700 with a little work :D
[Acer Iconia A500] xuanphucn:
I know this's the old question but i havent found any solution :(.I just flashed a custom rom. Now I wanna go back to stock rom. I didnt back up my original stock rom. What am I supposed to do. I need to send my device back to acer for hardware repair. Please help me.
[Acer Iconia A500] timmyDean:
Here you go http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1307539

This is pure stock with root only. It doesn't get any better than this, trust me.

Once done take out the root. Or just use the downgrade tool listed in these form to download directly to 3.0.1 and then ship it off.

TD
[Acer Iconia A500] xuanphucn:
how do i check if my tablet is taken out of the root or not?
[Acer Iconia A500] rdnkchevy:
Look in the Android market for root check or something like that
[Samsung Infuse 4G] DirtyB226:
I followed instructions to a "T"...Installed Thunderbolt and ran the scripts aswell..

Battery Drops 20 charge in about 2 hrs time just sittin on the desk...If I'm at 100% and set my alarm with the phone unplugged...then damn...Looks like Im late for work again..."that excuse only worked once"...

My Kernal is2.6.35.7 joker@linuxbozo #8

Is there a better Kernal for batteru life I can flash....I LOVE my setup but damn,,,this thing is killing me..:confused:

-Appreciate any feedback
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jayson94538:
You can't use any other kernel besides the one that miui came with. I'm running the unboosted version, battery doesn't drain that fast.

Sent from my SGH-I997
[Samsung Infuse 4G] CheesyNutz:
here is some feedback

POST IN THE RIGHT FREAKING SECTION !!!

and i run miui all the time and my battery is FINE sounds like you got a bad flash or a wakelock going on period
[Samsung Infuse 4G] nupe_1911:
Not sure why you thought posting this thread in the general forum would somehow solve your issue. Go the the appropriate forum and seek a solution. Also, drop the poor attitude.
[TouchPad General] thistimearound:
Let's be real, this deserves its own thread. Many people live by the sword of Titanium Backup and it's currently broken in the first Alpha of CM9 for the Touchpad. I've searched through about 9 threads and several info files and have yet to resolve this issue.

So far there seems to be a Superuser issue that doesn't seem to effect Titanium Backup Version 4.0.2, which you can get HERE. That said, restoring files continues to fail. Has anyone had success with this? If we can get a fix I'll update this post to help others.
[TouchPad General] viny2cool:
i agree it deserves a thread...but why in development section? why not in General or Q and A section?
[TouchPad General] Leoisright:
I would suggest just using important apps only until this is fixed. Way too alpha of a build to load up a ton of apps.

sent from classicnerd ICS touchpad
[TouchPad General] thistimearound:
Because I'm stupid and didn't pay attention. A mod should move this.
[TouchPad General] thistimearound:
My biggest attempt was to check compatibility and display of apps I use regularly. I'm not concerned with stability at this point, I just wanted to load a ton of data and apps and see what sticks.
[TouchPad General] Argent36:
I just flashed CM9 over CM7 - everything worked fine and all my apps are still there :)
[TouchPad General] jayb222:
I don't see why they don't just use My back up root until titanium is fixed. It put all my apps and data back perfect.
[TouchPad General] GuestD2757:
I just flashed cm alpha0 and ran into this problem. Will try the 4.0.2 and restore some of my apps just to try everything. Looking forward to New versions with fixed titanium.

Will try my Backup root. First have to migrate Backups from phone
[TouchPad General] crump84:
You know if you use ACMEinstaller2 there's no need to wipe anything. I was able to keep my apps/data/settings and I'm yet to run into any issues. This was mentioned in Dalingrin's OP on RootzWiki.
[TouchPad General] thistimearound:
And Titanium Backup still works for you? Didn't for me.
[TouchPad General] tbob18:
Freezing apps does not work, and restoring apps only works if you set the app proccessing mode to INTERACTIVE.

I remember a similar issue on CM7 for the Epic 4g.
[TouchPad General] crump84:
My point is you won't lose any of your apks + data. The only reason I use TB is make batch backups of my apps (which I did prior to flashing CM9), since i didn't have to wipe, not being able to restore is not an issue for me.
[TouchPad General] thistimearound:
As worthless as this thread is becoming, it does appear that the newest version of Titanium Backup (4.7.4) does seem to be working after removing and updating superuser. Well, once at least. Functionality is back to broken again it seems.
[TouchPad General] sLiKK:
Were u able to restore apps thru titanium?
[TouchPad General] pside15:
It seems like this is the logical answer for now. I've always wondered why more people don't use My Back Up Root instead of TB anyway.
[TouchPad General] jayb222:
Lol because people are stubborn. :)
[TouchPad General] c0ns0le:
ultimate backup and restore worked for me
[TouchPad General] chicle_11:
If you first install the app from market, you can install the data from titanium. That worked for me. The only hassle is that you have to do it one by one.

Edit: I'm running the pro version 3.8.7. There's a link for it here somewhere.
[TouchPad General] detdett:
thanks! i needed TB to run whatsapp on CM9
[TouchPad General] Smac7:
4.5.2.2 is working for me. dont know if itll work for everyone though.
[TouchPad General] tbob18:
Why not just set the App Processing mode to Interactive? You'll still have to install each app one by one, but it takes a lot less time than installing them from the market
[TouchPad General] Smac7:
does MBUR let you restore all your apps at one time? thats the main reason i bought titanium.
[TouchPad General] pside15:
Yeah, batch backups and restores are included. It's a great app and works very well. The fact that it's free makes it even better.
[TouchPad General] Drachen808:
You won't need TIBA since you won't be wiping anything
[TouchPad General] dtugg:
Yep, me too.
[TouchPad General] Argent36:
That's the thing - I didn't wipe data before using ACMEInstaller2 to flash CM9 over my CM7 install - so when it booted back up in to CM9 after install - all my apps were still there - I didn't have to try to restore anything.
[TouchPad General] thistimearound:
My Backup does work, and it's a fine app. I just have the pro key for Titanium and have supported it since the beginning. 4.7.2 and 4.7.5 are working fine now that some super user issues have been ironed out. Batch mode still isn't stable, but it works.

I appreciate you guys giving an alternative. Very helpful despite the condescending tone some of you decided to use.
[TouchPad General] nomadman:
lets put this thread to rest.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1454963

or wait for CM to update the kernel.
[TouchPad General] nin97:
Dalingrin fixed it, Titanium Backup now work with Bricked kernel 0.31, see link in @nomadman post
[TouchPad General] theroar:
Bricked kernel is not in every rom though... I actually heard that I should stay away from it while in IRC. The other question I have is MBUR can use the backups I already had from Titanium.

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I have been trying to find app processing mode as well... in the settings... any tips?

Found it.... it is under app processing mode... Go figure. =)

I think my mind was locked on to the word interactive... fail... =)

Once adjusted... everything works as you advertised. with 4.0.2.

I am nervous about updating to a newer version tought, cause when I did this morning I was greeted with a tp reset. I cannot see much reason to mess with something that is working now... =)

Is there a new feature or something in TB 4.7ish?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EP2008:
I noticed on the better battery stats app that the top of my wakelock list is something called Syncloopwakelock. It's been active for 41 minutes and has a count of 2317!!! It also accounts for 87% of my device wake time.

What the heck is it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dombuz:
Hi, I am getting the same thing on my sensation running ARHD 6.0.3. My battery isnt dropping below 20mA when its sleeping. Did you manage to find out what this was?

cheers
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EP2008:
Nope. I was never able to find out more about it and it continues to be in my top three wake locks regardless of what I do.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Azeolus:
I'm wondering the same thing, On my GNex SyncLoop has a count of 1835, but only says 1s for total time. It is the highest count of wakelock items and currently my phone is at 75% awake, and it's been sitting on my desk screen off almost all day.

This is killing my battery and just started recently.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] planetf1:
Seeing a far amount of wakelocks here from this. SGS 2 pre release build 4.0.3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] galapogos01:
Only seeing this since I upgraded to 4.0.2... so much for better battery life over 4.0.1!