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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cordell12:
MegaUpload is in the process of returning http://megavideo.bz/ ;) <<<was tweeted by Anonymous

now I see this!

BREAKING: http://megavideo.bz/ is NOT the "new" MegaUpload. It's most likely a phisher and will steal your info. #opmegaupload #oppayback
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skyline247:
I don't know what the HE77 happened to a government "of the people, by the people, for the people", but this shizz is getting dam old. First online poker, then pirate bay (well, I understand that one), SOPA, PIPA, Megaupload. When will this government stop being so intrusive. I blame it on all of us voters. We have let the government have control for too long. We need to wise up peeps, and take our liberty back!

Ok, done with my rant.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Unfortunately it seems too late too take back the system through the system...

...tree of liberty's been lookin' a might thirsty lately.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
Thats nuts they already have a imposter site up to steal identities/info. Cyber criminals are fast

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skyline247:
That, my friend, is nothing but the truth. I'm afraid we've let liberty be plundered & mauraded for too long to ever get back to the vision our founding fathers had for this great country.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] squshy 7:
Well....it's not like megaupload DIDNT have a bunch of pirated stuff.

But i think anonymous just got played. Shutting down megaupload shortly before the SOPA vote...you have to expect an anonymous attack. Which in this light makes it look like they're supporting piracy. And attacking government sites... i hate to say it but it might just scare the legislators into voting FOR sopa.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
...and it's not like knives haven't killed thousands of people. Want to outlaw knives? Are all owners of knives suspect?

Do not conflate a tool with its use.

I'm still not so sure about that. A number of them were scared into dropping support once they realized that had no idea what was actually going on in the bill or on the internet for that matter. The public backlash was pretty tangible. If things get more serious protests would likely get more intense and the backlash would likely be epic.

Do I think that means that SOPA/PIPA have been defeated? Tough question. Chances are bills called "SOPA" and/or "PIPA" will likely never get passed...but I think it's not unlikely that they will be dismantled into pieces and stuffed into "feed the poor orphans" bills, "job creation" bills and "unemployment extension" bills....what kind of heartless prick would vote against unemployment benefit extension, jobs creation and feeding poor orphans?

...only honest politicians. Good luck finding one of those let alone enough to keep something named like that from passing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Well, as you all know the government only works for the rich. So, when the rich think there precious profits might be damaged they will arrest you. That is exactly what happened with pirate bay. They forced a foreign government to arrest people who hadnt committed a crime in their own country.

For the record I use megaupload all the time to download roms. I think we all do. They are far from pirated so hopefully they will see the site has a great legitimate purpose.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I think it's far more sinister than that. There are a couple things to always keep in mind when some 'industry type' starts spouting off about "piracy":

1.) It is not stealing. Nobody is deprived of anything

2.) Most people who downloaded something would NOT have purchased it otherwise.

3.) The music and film industries are posting record profits. Every year.

4.) It has nothing to do with any of these things.

Then what is it?:

1.) Loss of control of distribution. Now you can make and distribute a movie or song cheaper and easier than they could 20 years ago.

2.) Loss of control of choosing talent. "Celebrities" could be, and are, anyone now. At this rate in 20 years "internet celebrity" will be a redundant phrase.

3.) Loss of control. Now you don't have to sit in front of a TV and wait for your show to come on. You set the schedule, you decide what you want, you don't watch anything else...you aren't being spoon fed an entire cultural point of view.

4.) More loss of control....like it or not mass media controls the majority of public opinion...without a push-media to force this onto you they are screwed. Hell, you might even, I dunno, get your own news from somewhere else that they don't control!

5.) User. Created. Content. Who the fnck is going to pay for movie studios, recording studios, taste-masters, high level industry executives, mega-budget productions, big dollar celebrities and multi-million-dollar promotion over old-school media if ordinary people are not just consuming but creating most of the content that these businesses had a monopoly over?

6.) This is a bi-directional 100% ACTUALLY FREE medium where anyone can and will say whatever they want and there is a near 100% chance that anybody who is looking to see that or something like that can and will see it. There is no filter like there is with television and radio. It is unadulterated humanity for better and worse....and if anyone has ever been to 4chan you know that it is mostly worse.

Believe whatever you want, but, this is the real crux of the matter. Lost revenue is a red herring. This is a cultural and technological revolution. These are the buggy-whip manufacturers trying to sue the street pavers, the tar makers, Henry Ford and Goodyear for destroying their monopoly on transportation control....though that analogy doesn't even being to detail how evil their intents truly are.

"Disruptive technology"... look it up.

EDIT: KC, that wasn't directed at you. The first few words might have been but then I went into full rant mode.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
^^ Agree completely.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012...rtment-website-in-retaliation/?intcmp=related
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] YoungAceAtlanta:
Reason why we should all use dropbox or any other site like it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] squshy 7:
No you misunderstand me, sorry. I merely meant that megaupload being taken down should have been long fore seen.

Although to play a little devil's advocate, megaupload is fundamentally different from more traditional tools able to be used illegally (a la, knives), in that they have control over the tools use. A knife manufacturer can't control customers use of their products...neither can megaupload, but they can control their product directly.

But that's a digress, I'm always on the same page as you daneurysm.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Yeah. You're right. Unfortunately I did see it coming. I think it's malarkey. Pure and simple. Sure, even though a majority of it's use may have been infringing #1...prove it. Simply alleging that it is so obviously evil that a majority of it's entire being is nothing but pirated content? Quantify it. Beyond that, justify it....just because something is being used illegally doesn't mean that the tool should be taken offline. Whatever happened to common-carrier status? That's why AT*T, Cox, Comcast etc, et al can't be held responsible for the things done over their networks...or does that only apply if you are one of the big dogs greasing the right palms?

I already know that this Kim fella ain't the most upright citizen...but...should that matter? No...it shouldn't. We're judging the validity of the service....it's not like they want to take it offline to help him clean it up....he was operating outside of their network of cronies and impinging on their monopoly on distribution...a monopoly that I would like to point out ended (technologically speaking) 10-15 years ago.

While that is 100% correct that doesn't scale very well. There is no automated way to verify the authenticity or validity of any of those uploads...so...it would have to be a manned operation and there is no practical way for a manned operation to be able to police that much content....so are we to limit the spread and storage of information because we can't keep tabs on every single bit of it? (before you even think about answering remember: Information is knowledge, knowledge is power)

I don't try to win support or win anything at all. I try to disseminate what I see as common sense. If I'm wrong I'll try to learn from that....and I also like to rant. Feel free to keep me in check ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Alchemistgunner:
Yea I just heard about this yesterday as well
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
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You thought the same thing i did. How could any one possibly filter all the content that goes on that site. Creating a program to try and identify it all and weed out pirated stuff would probably be insainly hard i would imagine. Doing it with a program and people combined to catch things that fell through the cracks of a program that auto checks stuff maybe? But damn, a file storage site becoming illegal? Really? Maybe it wouldnt have gotten into trouble if it didnt let people view other peoples stuff? Like u could only access your own files so that way your " not distributing it to others". Like you need your name a password to access your stuff. Also let the customer be able to have perminate files for mass sharing in a seperate folder that has been flagged as not private and reviewed by the company that runs the file sharing site? What ddo you guys think about something like that working?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] drksilenc:
o u mean like the mpaa issued false takedown requests for the box a few years back with there automated tool. when they were removing the bbc show that is in public domain and violated dmca rules but NOTHING happened to them. THAT IS BULL this is 100% stupid
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] zx3junglist:
By the same logic, Youtube would be public enemy #1. But, I don't see any federal stings on Google, and no execs locked up on felony charges. Sounds a lot like a double standard.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Care to guess how much more Google lobby's DC than Mega? Google has their own in house lobby shop

@daneurysm - You are right on the money and we all enjoy your rants haha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Yeah but way back when google caught the plaintiff seeding youtube with infringing content to bolster their case.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] IA-32e:
Megaupload sucks anyways. There are a dozen better file hosting sites with no wait times and faster speeds for non premium users.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] spencer88:
Wow. You missed the whole point of the thread I guess.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] YoungAceAtlanta:
I don't think megaupload should be held responsible for what people choose to upload to their site ,but they could have did a better job removing it.

You take down one you might as well take down them all. Its like taking down a stupid drug dealer but not going after his source. Because if he go down he just going to send another person out there.

And we are just going to upload piracy to the next best thing

If they wanted to bust megaupload they could of did it long before on stronger charges due to all their illegal money funding and the shady founder who have a history of bad deals

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
swizz beatz definately wasnt an owner, or he would have been arrested as well

he might have just been paid to be a CEO of sorts,but just for marketing/advertising purposes

swizz is glad he wasnt an actual owner, or, since he lives in the US, would have been the FIRST person arrested

---------- Post added at 11:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:23 PM ----------

well of course 2 wrongs dont make a right........

however, everyone knows megaupload was heavily used in pirating all sorts of things

you really didnt need the paid version if you were using it legitately to store your stuff

90% of the people who paid for premium services, even without proof, were obviously using it for illegal(copyright infringement) purposes

yall can deny and make excuses all ya want, but you know what megaupload and sites like it are MAINLY used for!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] theclerk74:
Of course most people know that any file sharing site contains pirated material, but look at how many of us used Megaupload for legitimate reasons. The real question though, is this: Who carries the burden of responsibility for policing it? If I remember right, Youtube was sued for the same thing. Sure, they put software in place to help stop copyrighted material from being posted without authorization, but my kids can watch Phineas & Ferb, Pink Panther and Tom & Jerry all day long on Youtube.

My opinion is that society is going through a major transition, and the major entertainment companies that continue to fight these changes will likely not survive. There are so many opportunities to be had by major companies that choose to embrace the change and still be profitable.

Taking down a website that so many people used for legitimate reasons because of some unauthorized uses is like eliminating the food stamp program because some people misuse that. Like anything else in the world, there are always going to be dishonest people just waiting for opportunity to present itself.

Anyway... I do think it could be possible to at least filter out uploads greater than say, 350mb that are media files, or contain media files and have a small team work on monitoring those files for copyright infringement.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cbpagent72:
The government is apparently ultimately responsible for policing it and that is what they did. I love internet freedom but stealing somebodies' intellectual property rights wether or not you like them is wrong. Facilitating it is just as wrong. He would not have had assets seized and been arrested in a different country if the grand jury had not seen some very compelling evidence.

Btw, if you feel that the owners illegal activity interrupted your legitimate activity then sue the owner. Dont get mad at the government because the owner is an idiot and created enough evidence to warrant his indictment.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cbpagent72:
Kc_exactly, your comment is very paranoid but funny. I work as an investigator for the federal govt and everytime I hear nutjob conspiracy comments it makes me chuckle. There is not some rich person picking put the cases we investigate. About 90% of the cases are agent initiated and the other 10% are generally leads. I understand the techniques are not readily available to the general public but these conspiracy theories about the fat cats controlling investigations are very comical. If the fat cats really controlled it why was Microsoft sanctioned and this Megaupload founder arrested, you know he is a fat cat right, the kind that control the system...lol.

Fyi, watch out for the black helicopters and don't forget to take your 99%er signs and tent out of the park and then get a life.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
I don't think the government only serves the rich, but I also don't doubt that rich "connected" folks can make a phone call to someone in government get some "emphasis" on a "lead" as a favor for past favors.

That qualification may not be "you are rich, we'll serve your interests". It'll be more like, "thank you for your past and future campaign contributions, I'll mention it to someone at DOJ"
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Beejis:
I'm sure they wouldn't care about any Joe unless they contributed a significant amount of change, and to contribute a lot you are generally wealthy/stupid, sometimes both ;)

It burns when I tapatalk...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Joe's power is they outnumber the rich by a large amount.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AfroJanadian:
Only one step closer to New World Order... SMH... some how now the constitution has no power in our society today.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ungovernable1977:
how assuring... some form of G-Man comes in and tells us its all right, then likens any allegation of the govt being controlled by the rich (they are, please feel free to enlighten us how you arent.) to wingnut conspiricy theories... aren't investigations conspiricy theories themselves, just against actual human beings not corporations and their precious property, which is ALL the law cares about anymore. Why are you on a phone hacking website anyways?? Its like when cops throw on their lights just to run a red light... either be the law or dont.

I just hope these neo-capitalist idiots keep up their abuse of the 'justice' system... wakes more people up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
+1

The simple explanation is one of two, Occam's Razor FTW:

1.) He is part of the conspiracy and, as such, will propagate the disinformation.

2.) He is, much to his own chagrin, part of the unwashed masses being misinformed.

As far as I am concerned it could go either way or even likely both.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ungovernable1977:
yah i get really annoyed when the govt/media/drones can accuse people of conspiracy for anything from a graffitti crew to a mafia investigation... but when the people point out govt/corporate collaboration and corruption, which is usually all public record, just not on the fox 'news' two-minutes hate, they discredit the allegations with jokes of elvis and area 51. Someone said something about a thirsty tree of liberty? I cant see this being avoided much longer.... hopefully we can bring around the decent people duped into the teabaggery to the original libertarianism... some blend of Jefferson, Franklin, FDR, Kropotkin and Durruti.....?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skyline247:
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Fyi, watch out for the black helicopters and don't forget to take your 99%er signs and tent out of the park and then get a life.

I think most of us have a life. The Government is just too intrusive in it. Conspiracy theory or truth, I think the latter. Thanks anyway, Agent Smith, for the reassurances. :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] scoobmd:
In that same argument, here is what I found on Lamar Smith, the guy who helped write SOPA....

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/0...eaks-copyright-law-on-campaign-website-image/

There is a more informative but not as fun article in my local paper, but you get the idea...

Lamar's argument was that he hired a developer to make his website and cannot police everything image that shows up on it.:cool:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kevank:
Any ROM developer that needs a place to host ROMs can just contact/PM me. We can host them on Techerrata.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] scoobmd:
thanks for the offer, I'm not smart enough to be a developer but will pass the message on in the thread of some of the ROMs...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AVAH0LIC:
Definitely will not be getting our files back. Servers have been seized :( hope you had backups

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
That's bull crap. I love our government
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ungovernable1977:
the govt are just sleazy pawns... its their corporate masters running this show... back to the point about breaking this up and stuffing it into 'save the orphans' bills, this could be a good thing if it gets more geeks and anti-authoritarians to pay closer attention to the acts of the govt... once something passes good luck getting our right wing stacked supreme court to repeal... then it will get fun ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Thing is, the geeks and anti-authoritarians are already aware of what is going on. Once we can get everyone else paying attention I think we'll have something...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
... How will that happen the majority of people in America care more about what's happening with McDonald's than with their freedom/privacy, and then most of the people who heard about SOPA/PIPA from who i've talked to don't even understand what it's about but they are "against" it and "enraged" ...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
People will only start to care when their bread and/or circuses are interrupted. The fact that they are blindly against it an enraged at all is a great start...we'll take what we can get for now.

But until their distractions and conveniences are disturbed Joe Blow just won't give a **** enough to even try to understand. But when that happens the reaction should be pretty quick...

...ever notice how sports broadcasts even preempt the evening news?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cbpagent72:
You made a great point, most people don't even know what they are mad about but they love getting whipped up into a frenzy. I almost think that hardly anyone in here has read the whole article about Kims arrest, the article states that Kim and his associates refused to allow the police to serve the search warrant. The police had to beak down the front gate and house doors meanwhile the innocent Kim hid using electronic couner measures and locking himself in a safe room from the police. Those clearly sound like actions of an innocent man. Let's go get upset at the government because we are too big of tools that we have the mob mentality and we don't want to accept the fact that they probably have a crap load of direct not circumstantial evidence. I am probably wasting my breath here, if you have drug induced paranoia or psychological issues having conspiracy theories are kind of a release and nothing will change your mind, I am not suggesting that every XDA reader fits in to that category but there are probably a few from some of the crazy paranoid statements I have seen in here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mchlbenner:
Here the problem you illegally seizing people files they need go after people doing the crimes and. they could they don't give a dam .

I wish I owned Google in protest I would have it go off line for 24hours.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
The problem with people who don't know what they are enraged at getting involved is that it often leads to WORSE decisions in the long run, because then politicians will have to appease the uninformed masses rather than actually addressing the problem properly.

The uninformed masses are a good tool, but just remember... The uninformed have elected the Supreme Uninformed to the office of President every four years for the past 20 years, at least!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cbpagent72:
I do agree that it would be a lot easier for people to get onboard if they were able to see all of the evidence. Because this is an ongoing criminal case that will be going to trial they cannot release all of the info for a couple reasons, they don't want to influence a potential Federal jury and they need to go to a suppression hearing and see what evidence the Judge will allow to go to trial. None of this is political it is just due process. The courts (judicial branch) are a separate branch of government from the executive branch (president, cabinet members & most law enforcement) and the legislative branch (Congress & senate), the judicial branch doesn't answer to either of those branches to maintain impartiality. If a politician tried to influence a Federal judge not only would it be illegal but also stupid because a federal judge is a life time appointment and cannot be removed except in very extreme circumstances.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
I feel like you are quoting a textbook.

Judges are people. Some are honest, some are not. That's just life. I would hope that the honest ones greatly outnumber the dishonest ones, but am not surprised if you find bad apples.