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[Eee Pad Transformer General] Danzano:
Hmmm my thoughts

1. They have set an agreement with there partners. A new timeline that they must update devices within a set life span for a device think it was around a year and a half have a google on it. (p.s year and a half aint bad considering how fast mobile tech is moving)

2. It should not be a problem for devs to write apps for ics and the differences in hardware are accounted for

3. ms well thought out vista ms dos longhorn??? ms dos was not future thinking and very short sighted especially in terms of ram!!!!!! if anyone remembers vista was a plain mess!! and longhorn didnt even meet the public. Not to mention the many other flaws or screw ups (anyone remember xp early days it was hackers heaven)

4. At its roots android is linux google the track record for updates and security between ms and linux then whie you're at it google how many servers in the world run linux compared to ms

5. The biggest flaw of all ms was a single user platform a pc the first pc they now want to make it multi user and move toward cloud computing etc etc linux has been doing this for years so inherantly android can do the same ms on the other hand is having to kick there own ass so hard bills teeth have been replaced with hes toe nails

6. I like win 8 and 7 for one reason gamming and a couple programs i just cant get otherwise but as soon as i can do these things elsewhere or linux based i will.

You do have good points but i just wanted to step in as the other side of the coin.

Sent from my tf Enigmatic V2 beta 1.65Ghz Panda.test cust kernel settings
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jerrykur:
If you really want to be assured you can run everything on every device I suggest you look at Apple. The iPad will continue to be the dominate tablet for years to come and then you can be assured that everything will be packaged nicely and controlled in the manner decreed in Cupertino.

Open source means a trading a messier support structure for more innovation, and is not for everyone.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] gkillerx:
Enough said, whining isn't usefull here.

Seriously what do you want us to say? Good writting nice information, thanks for the info!!

I mean wtf?

Reported the thread.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] gkillerx:
Klau you do relise where XDA stands for and what the DEVELOPERS word means behind it?

XDA is for developing and helping people when they want to use costum roms or other non officeal related subjects

If you are unsatisfied with a device use the offical forum of ASUS, thats the right place!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] klau1:
Are any of the responses written by a mod?

So since when did everyone get appointed the responsibility to decide what is allowed to be discussed on this board, which isn't even the developer forum, it's on the general forum.

If you don't think the topic is relevant to you, just don't enter it. Let the mod do their job.

---------- Post added at 11:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:43 AM ----------

Learn to read, I said if you disagree, state your reason.

I've stated my reason of disagreement regarding the unfriendly atmosphere of this board.

You're grasping at straws that don't exist :rolleyes: look who's reaching lol
[Eee Pad Transformer General] blestsol:
I didn't disagree. My post said what I meant. What he was describing is what ios can give him. Please show where my fan boy thoughts are though. In my short sentence.

I'll wait for that though.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] klau1:
Nope, face palm has always been my actual sentiment about the responses here, and pictures help prevents a large post from getting ignored.

Look, every reasonably intelligent person understands trade-off exist. Simply one comes to mind:

can a "God be powerful enough to create a rock so heavy that even it can't lift it?"

Usability comes at the expense of functionality, everyone should understand that.

But people forget that sometimes, not a big deal, just explain it to them instead of acting like an internet bully. That doesn't help your point across.

Just because you disagree with the OP doesn't mean it was not "nice" or offensive
[Eee Pad Transformer General] uploder:
lol's were had reading this thread.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] silversx80:
Dude, basically what he did was akin to going over to VW Vortex, complaining about all the reasons why his little 2.5 Golf was not like the current offerings from Toyota, and said that when the new Hondas come out, he's getting one of those.

There is no purpose in his post other than to demean and criticize. There is nothing productive, nor contributory about it. No, I didn't have to read, nor post, but I felt compelled.

If someone want's to leave for a better personal option, that's fine. If they want to make a scene and flip the table on the way out, then they shouldn't expect a positive reception to their announcement.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] asdfuogh:
As much as I hate Apple, I do think that progress requires contrast. What do I mean? We need a solidified company like Apple that keeps pushing the same standard but slightly better (that's like peer-reviewed science). We need a looser society of innovators like Google's associates who play around at the edges of what we expect at the moment (who are like fringe scientists, some contribute great genius ideas, and some who completely **** it up). For me, I like the fringe scientist; I understand the need for peer-review, but I think I'll stick with Android for at least the next tablet too.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] oka1:
A WARNING FROM THE MODERATOR

A WARNING FROM THE MODERATOR

Play nice..........

talk nice ........

Or you will be banned.......

And I will close the thread

To those who reported this bad behavior, thank you

Keep it civil, Folks

Thanks ~ oka1 Moderator
[Eee Pad Transformer General] infazzdar:
Did they demo a Windows 8 ARM device at CES? I am very curious as to how Windows 8 will perform.

This is a very interesting project that could either excel if developers jump onboard, or crash horribly if developers reject the idea of Windows on ARM.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] funnycreature:
I was thinking about the horror of all the different Android devices when looking at them from a Dev's point of view (which I am NOT) so I appreciate your openness and insight.

The main reason why I will stay away from an iOS tablet for a long time is simply that the interface on a tablet needs to be more flexible than simply arranging icons to start apps. In other words, as long as iOS does not support widgets there's no appeal to me to buy an Apple tablet. Very narrow-minded, I know. Having an iPh*one (3GS) is not optimal but I am still waiting for an Android phone that intrigues me and is NOT linked to VZW.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jerrykur:
I think your company needs to pick and choose it battles. Pick the devices on which your game plays the best and will generate revenue. Forget the rest. Companies like NetFlix have decided to do this and you guys need to consider it also. No use supporting a device on which your games play poorly and getting negative ratings. Focusing will reduce your development and testing costs and time to market.

Best of luck,

Jerry
[LG Optimus Black] jimakos29:
here is the latest 360launcher and sslauncher apps. 360launcher is modded in english (not by me) and it has to be the fastest launcher (most beautifull too) i have ever used. It allows folders even inside app drawer, automatically puts your media in tabs inside app drawer etc. It haz a memory optimizer that really works and an auto power manager with 2 profiles (more options available if you upgrade the power saver for free from within the app). Overall it is bugless other than that the built in weather widget (which is really nice) recognises only chinese cities. sslauncher on the other hand makes your phone look like a magazine cover which is really cool. it has many pages on the main screen with the main page (or more if user specifies) being like a cover with highly customisable styles and the rest being pages with apps contacts(no screenshot for obvious reasons) internet favourites and so on. Both apps are free and some screenshots included. Enjoy.

edit:first 4 pics are launcher360. Rest are sslauncher some greek on it but i forgot o change language :)

edit2: launcher 360 includes a themechooser app with 30ish themes to download plus an unlocker app with really cool unlock styles (got to see tetris unlock screen)
[LG Optimus Black] lesp4ul:
I used 360 since it's pre-release and it's light and fast, but a bit laggy on drawer. Fewer options than Go Launcher but the stack transition animation make you feel like MIUI :) Now 1.5.1 is much smoother.

you can find custom themes by xda members right here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1345601
[LG Optimus Black] jimakos29:
If you really want to look like MIUI head over here for more details...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21571172#post21571172

sry forgot to paste the link :)
[LG Optimus Black] lesp4ul:
Yeah it's much like miui but i don't like the app icons are all over your homescreen haha. I used that before, also qq & zeam but i turn back to 360 :p

Gabwerkz also kanged miui launcher with some addition, i don't know if it still ongoing or abandoned.

Thanks :)
[LG Optimus Black] jimakos29:
Well in actual MIUI there is no app drawer so the icons are all over your screen as well.... :)
[LG Optimus Black] lesp4ul:
I know, i use miui 1.12 on N1 and also NS MIUI 4 before i switched it to AOSP+ ICS since there is not much themes yet for ics version.

Also make miui themes are a lot easier than CM. Mtz doesn't require signing or compiling. Just zip your file :D
[7 Mozart General] nsajuve:
Hello. I'm asking this forums gentle admins to create a sticky thread in which Mozart's users can post the latest official HTC roms they receive via Zune.

By doing this one can check and see whether he has the latest firmware and updates for his particular region ( Europe or Russia or Asia etc. ).

If you give me the ok and the permission to do this I'll post my versions .

Thank you in advance
[7 Mozart General] ap3rus:
Great idea, Mozart forums lacks from something available in other devices' forums, like HTC Desire http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=809328
[7 Mozart General] nsajuve:
Ok .... Here is what i have now . 2 days ago i got 2 updates :

1) The new HTC Firmware

2) An update for Windows Phone OS

Here are the versions :

Firmware Revision Number : 2250.21.51201.401

OS Versione : 7.10.8107.79

Device Type & Region : HTC Mozart (Without provider lock) , Italy
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zacharias.maladroit:
Hi guys,

anyone has a 64GB microSD XC card from Sandisk, Kingmax, etc.

working with their Moto Xoom ?

(I know/read that it works with the SGS 1, SGS 2 & Acer Iconia A500, but not sure about the Xoom)

In the future I need a total storage of about 80 GB so a non-working 64GB card would be a bummer

Many thanks in advance :)
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ewok666:
Yes, I had it working on a stock kernel running 3.2 but the card was formatted fat32.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zacharias.maladroit:
awesome !

thanks ewok666 :)
[HTC Desire S] omairazeem:
Can plz any one tell me how to flash rom if i dont want to root my desire s...want to flash MIUI...
[HTC Desire S] lynxnoon:
SORRY

u have to root

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] Sib64:
Sorry guy, but you cannot, if you're not (ROOT)-S-OFF
[HTC Desire S] foX2delta:
What dose it matter, if you flash a ROM.......... And you don't need root to flash a ROM, you need to either unlock or s-off your phone, that will give you nand access.

I think you need to do some reading first, cause your understanding isn't on the money yet.
[HTC Desire S] Sib64:
Sorry, that's what I wanted to say... need S-off, not root.
[HTC Desire S] jmmail:
unlock your Desire S on HTCDEV, then can flash another ROM.
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Most ROMs are rooted anyway and S-OFF will void your warranty so might as well get root

It's also recommend by people here not to use htcdev as if you ever want to send your phone for repair HTC will know that you unlocked the bootloader
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Joshseadog:
Hi, Motorola Xoom Wi Fi is now currently updating OTA to ICS, with 3g/4g models to follow shortly. Looks hopeful for Razr. Wonder when though.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xTremePower:
fu..... motorola.....

the Xoom exist since 02 2011.....

the Razr exist since ICS already released..

but the xoom have ICS first....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jiwengang:
Xoom Wifi is a google experience device, similar to Nexus in phones. Why Razr will release update before GED?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ahmad Alsaeed:
Because the xoom used stock android version. There's no motorola UI
[Motorola Droid RAZR] painterceessie:
I have just received ics on my xoom.

Now on my razr and I am very happy.

Come on moto,I want some ics on the razr.:D:D:D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Rutz272:
"Stay tuned. Our Software upgrade news site will be updated soon with info on ICS upgrades for other devices." ... This posted Motorola via it's Twitter account.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
In Motorola speak "soon" could mean 2013
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xTremePower:
motorola say "soon" in october 2011

we are in end january 2012 .....

If I use the same "Soon" than moto when my wife ask me to take a bath..... I will never go close of she XD
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maniAK-:
Just be patient Google own Motorola the ICS update will be soon judging by within one month its already updated from android 2.3 to 2.6

One of my other phones is a Lg Optimus Black and after 6 months of lateness and waiting its finally got android 2.3 this week (LG suck for updates) to make things really funny its also getting ICS but that will probably be 2014 at earliest :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ahmad Alsaeed:
LOOOOOOOOL

you have good experience in Motorola update speak

I hope to get the update 4.0 soon
[HTC EVO 3D] yannis_labs:
When I connect the mhl to my tv it says NO SIGNAL.

Is it Custom Kernel or Rom problem?

Rom:Shooter Beats

thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrkrabs:
i have the same problem
[HTC EVO 3D] yannis_labs:
Found the solution ....

1.turn off the TV

2.connect power adapter to the MHL adapter

3.connect MHL adapter to the EVO 3D

4.Turn on the TV.

With these steps it works like a charm!

*Its very important the tv must be OFF*

Hope this will help others who had the same problem with me.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrkrabs:
Can't wait to get off work and try this when i get home...sooo frustrated last night that it wouldn't work...but i didn't try with tv off...
[HTC EVO 3D] mrkrabs:
Still doesn't work for me
[HTC EVO 3D] mrkrabs:
Finally got mhl adaptor working..but only after restoring to a stock rom...but will not work on a custom rom..wtsb to be specific..what files could i pull from stock to make it work in custom Rom?
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
Some kernels break mhl, possibly roms too but not sure. For example, the anthrax kernel breaks it but is being fixed in an update hopefully soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] bloodrain954:
going to try the TV off thing, if that doesn't work maybe I'll go back to a stock rom/kernel
[HTC EVO 3D] Jabawockee:
If your one of the lucky ones and had chads 12192011 kernel and saved it. That has mhl support.

sent from America....F__k yeah!
[LG Optimus 3D] jimakos29:
here is the latest 360launcher and sslauncher apps. 360launcher is modded in english (not by me) and it has to be the fastest launcher (most beautifull too) i have ever used. It allows folders even inside app drawer, automatically puts your media in tabs inside app drawer etc. It haz a memory optimizer that really works and an auto power manager with 2 profiles (more options available if you upgrade the power saver for free from within the app). Overall it is bugless other than that the built in weather widget (which is really nice) recognises only chinese cities. sslauncher on the other hand makes your phone look like a magazine cover which is really cool. it has many pages on the main screen with the main page (or more if user specifies) being like a cover with highly customisable styles and the rest being pages with apps contacts(no screenshot for obvious reasons) internet favourites and so on. Both apps are free and some screenshots included. Enjoy.

edit:first 4 pics are launcher360. Rest are sslauncher some greek on it but i forgot o change language

edit2: launcher 360 includes a themechooser app with 30ish themes to download plus an unlocker app with really cool unlock styles (got to see tetris unlock screen)
[LG Optimus 3D] kbshowtyme:
The ssLauncher is very nice I tested it out for a day or so and its great, very promising but its still in beta
[LG Optimus 3D] jimakos29:
yeah but no issues (at least that i found of) and it does make the phone look pretty different than anything else. Only thing i havent figured is how to make the time appear as a text in the cover pages (like date does), although i havent looked for it much.
[LG Optimus 3D] jeromepearce:
You cannot do that. I use the Fuzzy Clock Widget for that, however.
[LG Optimus 3D] SUMMERBREEZE:
I have 360 Launcher, its really very good and enjoyable.

I use HTC Sense theme :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] LegoGabi:
I don't know why but my battery dies very fast, i just enter fruit ninja for 2-5 minutes and 20% of my battery is gone...i wiped battery stats but still nothing.

BTW, the phone is new, maybe after more charges i will get more battery life:confused:

P.S: Same battery life with 800 MHz...

And every time i wipe data/factory reset it gives me this E: format_volume /dev/block/mmcblk1p2.
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] shiftyHungary:
Well there's a lot to do I think.

First of all, reduce the brightness of the screen.

Then try to edit your phone settings by changing the CPU governor to SmartAssV2. It helps a lot to save battery whether you OC your phone or not.

Do not OC your phone very high! It not only eats out your battery, but harms your phone's CPU too! Always remember that your phone comes with a factory overclock from 600Mhz to 800Mhz. 825-844 Mhz will give you a stable and fast system. Above it, the phone will become unstable and will freeze, and eat your battery.

Then, you sould calibrate your phone's battery like this:

- Charge your phone to 100%. Unplug and replug the charger at 100% to make sure you're fully loaded.

- While on charger, reboot into CWM.

- In CWM, go to Advanced settings, unplug your charger and Wipe battery stats.

- Reboot, and enjoy:)

Do not use live wallpapers, turn WiFi, Bluetooth, and Mobile Data off if you don't need them.

Do not use task killer apps often. Using them too often makes your phone's processor and memory load a lot, which reducec battery at a high level. The phone will reload those apps what it needs, but if your phone is slow, do clean memory. I advise using Advanced Task Killer. But remember, not too often! :P

I think this is all that you can do, hope I could help a bit :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] LegoGabi:
I think the governor is the problem and the Auto Rotation, i have more battery life with Auto Rotation disabled.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] afonsus1997:
You can try using Battery Calibration to calibrate the battery at 100% (your phone has to be rooted)

But be careful using it!

---------- Post added at 01:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:17 PM ----------

the more u use the battery the more the battery wears out

u can buy a new battery its really cheap

(my english is not vary good)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] davewinkwink:
I charged my Nexus LTE(unrooted,4 days old) till it was 100% before I went to bed. As soon as I set my alarm I unplugged it to test to idle. Well I just woke up 6 hours later and it was completly dead. I have it on the charger now, I hope i can see the spycpu cause that was main purpose for leaving it off. I do not sleep surf either.

Is this a defective phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jd1001:
Wow that's nuts. I definitely never get that sort of battery drain. Are you rooted? Using a custom rom or just stock?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] davewinkwink:
unrooted. :o

I have to leave for work now with out a phone, I will try to check up via computer (feeling like a dinosaur).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jd1001:
Ha ha I know I feel so bad when I don't have my phone. Maybe see if it happens again tonight. If it does I would get on to the carrier. Have a good day at work!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] davewinkwink:
Ill try both.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EddyOS:
It has been documented the Verizon has battery issues but not sure if they were meant to be fixed in the 4.0.2 update
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Screwedupsmitty:
Are you sure it was dead or you just had a sleep of death? If it truly was dead you definitely have something draining your battery during idle. I highly recommend you turn off your LTE antenna if you haven't already unless your using data intensive apps and you need it, such as surfing or netflix or something. Also, change your sync times to less often, I do every 15min. Sign out of google talk, use wifi when you can, adjust screen brightness, disable bluetooth. White backgrounds will eat your battery faster as well. What else am i forgetting.... Root will help if you can manage to, its incredibly easy especially with the new rootkit out, because you can load francos newest build which has increased my battery 2x, with 25% drain in the last 8.5 hours even with a 1/2 hr of whale tail last night. Also make sure your not running something stupid in your background thats eating your battery like a task killer or battery spy or something, those just rape your battery
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Buff McBigstuff:
If you turn on Google+ instant upload and it has thousands of pictures to upload that will kill your battery in a few hours. If your phone is staying awake because of Android OS then try turning off your GPS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Geezer Squid:
As noted in a lot threads on a lot of forums, there are some phones that have a problem with the Android OS and the "Keep Awake" time. There seems to be an issue with some phones not truly going to sleep when the power button is used to turn off the screen as opposed to letting the screen turn off automatically when the screen times out. This results in a very high time in the Settings/Battery/Android OS/Keep Awake menu.

In stock form and with every rom that I have installed, my "Keep Awake" time was always about 50-60% of my total battery time. If the phone had been off charger for 8 hours, I'd have 4-6 hours of Andorid OS "Keep Awake" time. This was true even if the phone had been in my pocket unused and seems to be exacerbated by my habit of turning the screen off manually with the power button every single time. I used to never let the screen timeout.

There seems to be two "fixes" according to Franco (of kernel fame). One concerns the camera. Seems the camera is started and then turned off during startup. But in so doing, it leaves a sensor active and this prevents the phone from actually going to sleep. So he recommends starting and using the back button to go back to the home screen. The other is DRM Protected Content. He recommends this be disabled or frozen. A third, that I don't believe I recall seeing him recommend but that I have seen on his thread at XDA (down for blackout right now) is to disable Maps.

I have done all three of those and my Keep Awake time has gone from 40-50% of my total battery time down to a few percentage points. I mean if I don't use my phone it will now show less than a minute of Keep Awake time per hour.

Good luck
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] badassirocz:
My VZW nexus can idle with moderate use on constant LTE and get 15 hours with out issue. Hell I have even gotten more so check google+ as suggested. If it went dead on idle with nothing running constantly to cause it than I would say your phone and/or battery is defective
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Screwedupsmitty:
Ive been getting good battery life, despite my awake time being around 6-8 hours at the end of a charge. I tried the camera close but that never helped, I've just disabled DRM though. Also, GPS locator has been associated with this, which is probably what you meant by "maps". I just turn off my location unless i need it for navigation in location settings