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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ghanada:
I had the NT, even rooted it with your MAC script. I liked it a lot but could not live with the fussing around regarding the OTA update. B&N's stance on hacking their device has really soured my taste toward them so I returned it. I picked up a WiFi Flyer and haven't looked back. The screen is basically the same as the NT, just as good, if not better viewing angles. However, the NT has slightly less glare. The responsiveness is at least as good as the NT if not better. I even like the overall feel of the Flyer over the NT. It isn't as thin, but it feels stronger and better made. Anyways, I can pretty much guarantee you won't miss the NT at all.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Chund3r:
What are the chances this thing will get ICS? Rather official, or CM9 support?

The price for this tablet is great, but if this tablet won't have ICS I'm going to wait awhile for the new tablets to come out.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
View eats all other 7-8" tablets for breakfast.

Been there, done this.

Ordered my second View.

Returned my Vizio 8" to the store.

Life is good :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ghodzilla5150:
I concur. I have Both the KF & HTC EVO View 4g and the View is Much, Much faster and snappier than the KF. I LOVE it since HC was put on and the Stylus works soooooo much better since HC. I use the View all the time AND I have a Xoom WiFi WITH ICS and still use the View more because I can Write to the SD Card whenever I want. Whereas my Xoom is a GED Device and even thou it has ICS there still is NO Write ability to the SD Card Internally, which to me gimps the device. I put a PNY 32GB Class 10 in my View for Extra Storage and have a Otterbox Defender on it. Awesome Device.

DON'T get caught up in the Dual Core vs Single Core issue with this device. HTC Optimized the View Magnificently with Sense and HC that it's really FAST and Buttery Smooth.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bmxrideher:
I just ordered mine. I was sorta reluctant, because I am not a fan of Sense. I currently have an Acer Iconia A100 that I got from Best Buy for $180. I will give the View 4G a shot (fingers crossed that CM will hit this thing). I just know that one tablet will be on the Craigslist soon. Also, I read this review after making the purchase:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-evo-view-4g-review/
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] legend221:
Now they have this to replace it.

NO comparison, hahaha
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Medic1013:
And just like that I missed the sale. Now it's between the kindle fire and galaxy tab 7in.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
The single core View /Flyer is much faster in daily use than the dual core KF. Why?

because almost no software can take advantage of the dual core and Flyer @ 1.5 Ghz has the fastest CPU. Games and video use mainly the GPU not the CPU.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
And..what are you going to do w/dual/quad CPU?

Heavy photo/video editing?

Calculus?

:confused:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
What I mean is that Android apps are not designed to be multi-threaded and so most don't even use the second core. Also Android only allows one application in foreground.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
Yep.

Which sucks IMO.

Alt-Tab (tap-tap) and switch to another app in whatever they will call it in next android OS?

Guess all the OS developers are going thru the same cycle.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
ICS improves some on that, but still its not easy to write multi-threaded apps. developers have been struggling with that for years and years on the Linux and Windows boxes. I just want people to understand and not be fooled by marketing hype. It's a lot cheaper to manufacturer a quad core 1.0 Ghz processor than to make a single core 2 Ghz processor. That's why the hardware guys push it. More profit, and in theory it works, but in practices, it does not translate to better performance.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
Yep.

You did summarize it.

Overall, there are very few CPU-intensive apps available.

Video encoding/playing works fine on the View.

Everything else is even less demanding.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] eman3316@optonline.net:
Totally agree with this statement. Wait it out, or buy a kindle and just plan to return it when the View goes on sale again. Target gives you 45 days to return the Kindle and that is exactly what we are doing.

My wife wanted a Tab but did not want to spend a lot of money. I wanted to get the best device I could for the money she was looking to spend. At $200 the Kindle was a good buy but lacked a lot of options. I knew the View had been on sale in the past and would probably come around again and it did. I ordered one the other day without even playing with one in person.

My Kindle is rooted and running CM7 and trust me it is not that snappy, doesn't matter if it has dual core or not...Keeping that thing stock is a total waste of time as well.

After my wife had the kindle for 2 weeks I though it was going to be a hard sell to order the View but she was like okay. So I immediately ordered the thing. Went to the Sprint store yesterday to play with one and it is niiiiice. It ran smooth and just felt good. No tinkering needed to get a full tablet experience like on the Kindle. Also like others have said, when using an app it is using the one core so the View should technically perform better then the Kindle anyway.

Also looked at the Acer Iconia tab which ran $250 but the bad battery life and horrible viewing angles took that one out of the running.

If you have any questions about the Kindle let me know. I still have it and can test anything out that you want. It will be going back once I receive my View though.....

They do almost have ICS fully working on the Kindle. Just lacks video right now.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Medic1013:
I basically want it for killing time at the station. My needs will be light web browsing, reading books, games from the market and watching a movie here and there. I want to spend no more than $250. I figure if my phone can run games off the market the tablet I choose has to do the same.

I won't be using any sort of data plan it so the 4G aspect of the the view doesn't come into play. It will be on wifi 100% of the time.

I was at best buy yesterday playing with the kindle fire. Seemed suitable for what I wanted but then I played with the galaxy 7 tab and it had more of an overall tablet feel IMO. Ebay has a few galaxy 7 tablets for under $240 which seems like a better deal for the added memory expansion for games and movies.

I want to add I'm a flashaholic but might actually leave the tablet stock. I liked how honeycomb ran on the galaxy whereas the kindle I would probably root. I didn't like the kindles UI much.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] RangerLG:
I did end up ordering one. Looks like I got in right before they sold out. Now the waiting game with 1saleaday and their snail like shipping speed. Has anyone activated any other cell data besides Sprint with this tablet? Also, I noticed that the bootloader can be unlocked officially from HTC. Does this mean we don't have to use other methods to get S-OFF?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Medic1013:
I got lucky. I scored one on Ebay yesterday for $230. It's used but crossing my fingers they didn't butter up the description.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Emama:
waiting for the shipping is a disaster
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
While I never had any issues with the products once I received them, everything I purchased from 1SaleADay prior to the Evo View in December took 2-3 weeks to arrive. But the View came in a week's time. Much faster than I anticipated given their track record.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] inmnbob:
I was satisfied with delivery of the first view. Hopefully the second one will be quick too
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rydehard86:
Anyone gotten the shipped email yet. I have never used the site before and it driving me crazy waiting.

Sent from my Swagged Out Evo 4g
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Emama:
How long did it say shipped and what did they use? (Usps? Ups?)

I need it for the classes now :(

There is so many notes and papers to be read
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
Mine was shipped via UPS basic, which means that UPS carries it most of the way, but then USPS delivers it. It arrived six days after I placed the order. I was shocked that it was shipped and delivered so quickly since everything I had ordered through the site before took 2-3 weeks to arrive.

It was discussed in December that the items they sell are probably drop shipped, which means 1SaleADay never actually has the items, nor do they ship them out directly. The items are kept and shipped elsewhere (likely from wherever 1SaleADay received their supply, which could be the manufacturer, a different company, or a wholesaler). After their allotment is sold or the daily deal runs out, 1SaleADay then has to compile all of their orders and send that onto the company that actually has what was sold. Then that company has to prep and ship the product. Sometimes the products are not even located in the United States and have to be shipped internationally (although, given the quick shipping of the View last time, this isn't likely the case for it). That's why it can take awhile, and that's also why 1SaleADay rarely (if ever) replies to emails inquiring about shipping. It can be a convoluted process, but it allows for the products to be sold at a cheaper cost.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sortsol:
Thanks for the info. So, for those who ordered one in December, did the status change from processing to shipped once it shipped or did it stay in processing until you got it? Mine is still in processing. Just wondering if there is a chance it has already shipped. (I know, be patient, just curious)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
Don't remember.

After couple of days I sent them email asking to cancel the order and immediately got a response that item has shipped and in a few hours tracking info.

You might try this approach to speed things up, but they can cancel your order;)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
Mine switched to shipped, and I received an email from 1SaleADay with the tracking number. I just looked over my emails, and I ordered mine on December 8th (a Thursday), and it shipped on December 12th (the following Monday). I received it on December 14th (Wednesday).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sortsol:
Cool. Thanks for the information.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] eman3316@optonline.net:
Just got an email saying it shipped...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rydehard86:
Just got mine too.

Sent from my Fresh Evo 4g
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bagelicious:
I got an email from them today saying that my order has shipped. I'm looking forward to playing with it in a few days!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Will_nonya:
So, having missed this one, where's the next best deal?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Emama:
Yes! Hope I can get it by Fri
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Keyfloatz:
I just got my confirmation, woo hooo !!! I'm pretty excited too can't wait to have a bigger screen for zinio reader and youtube.

I not sure what case I'm getting, but i have to buy one and a screen protector from day one. I am not sure about screen protectors but thinking of the xtreme guards. I used it on my optimus v for almost a year now, no problems.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
I highly recommend this case, and these screen protectors. Both have been top notch for me.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
They will put up another one in a month I think.

Other than that, check ebay.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bagelicious:
Shipping out of Florida, btw, for anyone interested.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dragzer223:
Mine just shipped today...so ecstatic! haha. Thanks! I've been looking for the perfect case and protectors combo all day lol.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Keyfloatz:
bsweetness

Thanks for the recommendation on the case. I saw a guy with a similar one for the kindle fire in person. Its pretty slick, and its the one I have been leaning toward since I started my search.

The reviews on the screen protectors say it will leave fingerprint marks on the tablet still. I will post a question about screen protectors in another thread.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Emama:
I will probably buy this case cause so many people recommend this..

But for the Screen protector, I want a matte one instead.

I want to see if there is a matte one that does have the cut out for the FFC.

I always use clear SP for phones, but I think a matte one is more suitable for tablet.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] eman3316@optonline.net:
Mine is showing delivery for Friday on UPS's website. Not bad at all...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rydehard86:
Mine says Monday. I'm so bummed out.

Sent from my Fresh Evo 4g
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Emama:
Same here:(
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
Yeah, it's either fingerprints with a clear screen protector or grain with an anti-glare screen protector. Since I use my View predominately for reading, I'd rather wipe off finger prints than have to deal with the constant grain. I use an anti-glare screen protector on my phone, and I'm not bothered by it in the slightest. But on a larger scale when trying to read a lot of text, it really bothers me.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] eman3316@optonline.net:
Glad to hear that because I ordered both of those items right after I ordered my View last week. I have already recieved the case and while I trhought the view was going to be larger then the kindle Fire, the case makes me thing otherwise...

Screen protectors should be here any day. I told the wife she can't use the device until the screen protector's put on it. So hope they get here by tomorrow...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sortsol:
So, how is everybody finding out their delivery dates. My package still says:

"A UPS shipping label has been created. Once the shipment arrives at our facility, the tracking status--including the scheduled delivery date--will be updated." when I track it.

Is mine the only one that didn't make the boat or do you have a secret site you go to to track it.

Thanks,

Mike
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] eman3316@optonline.net:
They might not have picked yours up yet depending on when they made your label.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rydehard86:
Just the UPS site. Mine has left Jacksonville now. Headed to Columbus Ohio.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Shelbee6479:
Hi all New here. I ordered on this deal my tablet is scheduled for delivery on Saturday. I am spending today getting all the files I need together to root and s-off. I just am undecidee what Rom I want to flash any suggestions would be nice :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
UPS now delivers on Saturdays?

As of the custom ROM, we do not know yet what is preinstalled on those tablets. If HoneyComb, it will be a long road before you'll be able to install any custom ROM.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rydehard86:
The site said 2.3 so we should be good. There was a sale last month did everyone's come with gingerbread?

Sent from my Fresh Evo 4g
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
Good.

In December there was no HC update for View yet, so yes, everything came w/GB.

I don't think I will upgrade my new toy to HC.

As of custom ROMs on GB, I used ViperROM_redline with the overclock kernel and loved it.

On HC, just stock.

So far I don't see any reason to install custom ROMs on HC.

Besides, that View is not mine anymore. My better half took it from me after a while.

Little does she know I am getting my own :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Emama:
Why not using HC?

didn't check the dev yet but I am thinking if I just leave that unroot
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Shelbee6479:
I have no clue I believe they are handing off the tablet to my local post office here is what my tracking shows.

Your package is in the UPS system and is On Time with a scheduled delivery date of Saturday, January 28, 2012.

So right now with s-off all I can run is the stock ROMs? I was under the impression once I was rooted and s-off I could flash ROMs. Like I do on my HTC Inspire 4G. I also have seen a few custom ROMs so all reading I have done that states I can go from either stock HC or GB with s-on to rooted S-off with a custom ROM is wrong?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
What makes you say that?

I said that I am running stock ROM on HC because I see no reason to switch to custom ROMs. IMO there are no features worth doing this. Many of them are de-sensed. Well, I like the View Sense and I am not ready to give it up.

Other than that, after you s-off and root on GB and upgrade to HC NOT thru OTA but thru the procedures explained on this board you can flash anything you want.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Shelbee6479:
Thank you for clearing that up for me. I got the impression from the response of it it will be a long road that at this time it was a very complicated process and not easily done, or still being developed. I guess I was wanting clarification of what I have seen. To me the process outlined here look easy and almost fool proof if you follow the directions. I am gonna try http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1418258 seems like this would be the way to do it once the s-off is done by Revolutionary method.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
If they're shipping the same way they did back in December, they're using UPS basic. With UPS basic, UPS carries it most of the way, and then they hand it off to the USPS for the actual delivery.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Shelbee6479:
Exactly how they are shipping it. I even have a USPS tracking number as well for when it is handed off the post office. Mine might arrive tomorrow as when packages reach UPS in town here they are at the post office in short order as the main hub that delivers my mail is very close to the UPS shipping hub here.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
Well, my first View from 1SAD was delivered by UPS, no USPS involved.

But thanks for the explanation, it does make sense now.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Shelbee6479:
I also live in on a road that if a UPS truck came down it might never be able to turn around and leave so for most deliveries they are handed off to the PO to deliver. WV has alot of 1 lane dead end roads, or 4 wheeler trails as I call them. So that might be why mine is showing a Saturday delivery.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
UPS delivers to my house all the time (Amazon Prime will do that), so the hand-off for mine had nothing to do with any delivery issues. I seem to recall most people in December getting theirs delivered by UPS basic, but some did say it was delivered by UPS. 1SaleADay probably uses both for whatever reason. Their shipping process is so convoluted anyway that they don't even know what's going on most of the time.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
Because they are running their site as a drop-off business, that's all. They never actully see any merchandise they sell. They act as a processing center, that's all. Everything else is done by other companies.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Shelbee6479:
Everything I have heard about 1saleaday tells me I am just lucky it shipped and will be even luckier when it arrives in working order. So if that all happens and at the end I have a working tablet it will be a good day :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
I have ordered from them couple of times.

They sent me Archos something scratched etc *non-Android). It was long time ago. After opening the dispute w/my CC they took it back and refunded the charges.

My existing View is from them. I was hesitant to order from them again and even tried to cancel the order. Guess what, it arrived on time and it is perfect, brand new.

It is easy to blame them, the fact is they do not have a real inventory or anything else. And they are not really in control of whatever is going on.

They are just the Web front-end.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
Yes, I know they use drop shipping. Regardless, it's still a convoluted process that makes it nearly impossible to get any information from anyone. Many of the products they sell take so long to arrive because they're actually shipping from somewhere overseas, and often from companies that don't have a stellar reputation (if any reputation at all). The Views (both now and in December) luckily don't fit that pattern. So yeah, they are just the front end and they typically don't have any real information, but if you've got to blame someone, they're the only ones you know of to blame. :)

But there were definitely no issues with the View I received from them in December. Arrived in six days, and was brand new and in perfect working order. Actually, I've never had a problem with the quality or state of anything I've ordered from them in the past. It's always been the lengthy shipping that annoyed me. The View was an exception to that.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
I do believe 1SAD got a really good contract w/HTC. HTC is trying to clear up the inventory. There is going to be the EDGE (new quadcore 7" tablet for Sprint) soon.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsweetness:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the case as well. And I'm certainly glad they did. It's a great tablet for a great price.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Shelbee6479:
Well I figured for the price this was a great deal. I am using a wondermedia 8650 tablet now. It was purchased to see if I would even use a tablet. That tablet is my constant companion but is way to slow and non responsive for what I want to do with it. It makes a great e-reader but other than that it is faster to boot the laptop and surf the web. I know from my phone that HTC makes a great product so I jumped at a tablet with hopefully the same type of performance. From what I have read here and other places I don't think I will be disappointed. Even if the tablet is EOL I am not a gamer or a heavy app user so for awhile this tablet should handle anything I want it to do. And with sites like this one development goes on long after commercial development stops so I believe this is a good purchase. Till I get distracted by something else that is shiny and new :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
OMG.

You have 8650.

It is pretty much like you are driving a Yugo.

And then you get a Mercedes.

Night and day, no kidding.

I know what i am talking about. I have the "next" version of 8650. 1Ghz, yeah, right :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Shelbee6479:
I will put it this way. This tablet reminds me of my days on dial up. If I want to load a site I start it go eat dinner and come back and maybe half the page will be displayed. I have it decked out with the best ROM out there for it and it still doesn't improve it. The only positive thing I can say is it makes a great e-reader when the kindle app doesn't force close and cause me to down load it again. This happens at least once a day sometimes twice. It doesn't even play angry birds well lol
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
You are going to have a VERY different experience with your upcoming View, believe me.

It is one of the coolest things I've seen so far.

I am sure you'll enjoy it, especially in comparison to your 8650;)

I don't even care about HTC upcoming quad-core Edge.

Tablets are not about the CPU horsepower.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Shelbee6479:
That what I was hoping for. ;) Hence the reason why I am checking the tracking just hoping it shows up early I can't wait to test drive it! Hopefully my Pen will be here Monday. How much do you use the scribe with your Tablet?

I got the Fuji pen for 25 buck shipped because I am not sure how much I would use that option and 45 to 50 bucks is a lot for an option I may not use much.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rydehard86:
Glad these showed up on 1SAD or I would have ended up with the touchpad from woot tonight. I unsuccessfully tried my ass off to get one a month ago when they were released on ebay. I think I will be much happier with the View, so it all worked out. I'm tired of bugs. That's why I replaced my nook color.

Sent from my Fresh Evo 4g
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dragzer223:
You guys are all lucky! I'm getting mine on Thursday next week :(

Well it does give me time to prepare my screen protector and case :D