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[Atrix 4G General] ssmr2t:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...

Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?

Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?

Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.

I dont know, to me, thats not development...

/Rant
[Atrix 4G General] littleemp:
Wow... just wow.

Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?

If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
[Atrix 4G General] WiredPirate:
Solution: DONT FLASH IT!
[Atrix 4G General] jgabrielpb:
I think its even worst... Isnt he implying that we shloud blame sammcrip for releasing FCM and starting this influx of ROMS? It just amazes me how ungratefull and lazzy people can be.

Thanks all the devs for all this ROMs! I can use the search feature and filter all the junk from the good stuff. UHAaaaa! Im a smart n00b.

Peace.
[Atrix 4G General] endlessevo:
I don't think he is bashing anyone. He is just pointing out that once anyone with little skill or talent can put other people's "tweaks" together and produce a rom in a few clicks you forgo quality for quantity
[Atrix 4G General] jokersax11:
I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
[Atrix 4G General] endlessevo:
I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
[Atrix 4G General] jokersax11:
Reread the op
[Atrix 4G General] endlessevo:
I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers... O_o
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
The new roms are from cm9 kangs, which fcm has nothing to do with, and rdanner's ports. Which also have nothing to do with fcm. We also have Nottach making a new rom based on 2.3.6, and marko doing the same thing. Once again, neither have any affiliation with fcm... So what's the problem with development kicking off?
[Atrix 4G General] freshbakd:
Well I thought a development boom was a good thing. If you read descriptions they might say alpha build and if you think some of the newer roms aren't as high quality stick with what you know. I personally like choices and trying new things. Waiting patiently for miui to improve haven't touched cm9 probably wont until camera works. Just consider things and read what works before you flash things.
[Atrix 4G General] sspa:
In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
[Atrix 4G General] ssmr2t:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.

Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!

Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...

EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.

I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.

I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! :) Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs

Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this :D

/rant
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
Because there isn't a whole lot more to do to our phones except optimizing what we have already, and porting over android 4.0. Our dev team isn't done, but the groundbreaking work that you want is.
[Atrix 4G General] ssmr2t:
BTW, I am really stoked for CM9 and the future beyond.. The work that goes into all this is difficult. Maybe deep down inside, It is me just getting bored with the hobby? :(

Sorry about the post, and I respect all the guys who do, do this.
[Atrix 4G General] jokersax11:
I don't think you quite understand what kang means.

All unofficial cm roms are kangs, even ones that are in development to become official cm. Like mine. To become official everything major must work without breaking other phones. So if you want official cm9 someone must fix the problems. The little groundbreaking work you are wanting is the kangs. Yes the atrix team laid ground work to get cm9 ported but they stopped working on it. I was given cm9 only a few weeks ago when the photon cm dev moved to a different phone. He didn't even have cm9 up. Only cm7. I'm not making a temporary kang to satisfy ics thirst. I'm making the fixes to go official.

Also if you read up only one cm9 is current and going forward. Guess who's

Btw I don't even have an atrix, I'm blind building
[Atrix 4G General] ssmr2t:
Yep, your probably correct

Again, not bashing anyone.

AND... Thats freaking nuts to be blind building. My mind cant work that way :confused:
[Atrix 4G General] xhazk:
Ah, good old fashioned elitism.

"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"

Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.

I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
[Atrix 4G General] endlessevo:
I did check to see if that's what he was being so butt hurt about. I figured because it was a second thought to his original rant and the fact joker defended the wrong part of the rant he knew why he was defending himself.

His complaints about the KANG's was not being able to tell the difference between them, not that they were simple tweaks turned into roms.
[Atrix 4G General] jokersax11:
Long day. Plus complaining about free work equals thread
[Atrix 4G General] :
I, and I know many others, are very thankful to know CM9 is being worked on for the Atrix. I don't care if there are 17 dif versions of it! Thank you Jokersax11 for your work it is very much appreciated!!:)
[Atrix 4G General] fleurdelisxliv:
agreed for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
[Atrix 4G General] Blueangel180:
@OP

Arent you the one that trolled sam cripps thread and told him that you don't give a **** if developers stay or leave?

And now you're complaining about the lack of real development?
[Atrix 4G General] msd24200:
Your something else, seems like you always have something to complain about. If your not happy with the current rom choices then make your own and stop cluttering up the forums with threads like this that have no purpose or value! Far as your "quality of roms" goes I'm not seeing any poorly built roms and as far as FCM if you think about it everyone has to start somewhere if one wants to learn to develop roms. I made wm roms but I've not dove into android "yet" as I'm not a developer and there is much to learn! So instead of crying 1.) make your own rom, one to your liking 2.) or keep your useless complaints to yourself or 3.) sell the atrix and get a different device!
[Atrix 4G General] Jibraldor:
No offense but it's only because of people like you that the already small dev community we have for the Atrix is getting smaller and smaller. Some moron insulted Samcripp for no reason and i understand why the guy left. It's really sad as he was, in my opinion, the best dev. International uses who have been on xda for some time will know that we would not have our bootloaders unlocked without him.

Now Joker(who doesn't even own an Atrix by the way) ports a ROM for us, you blabber god knows what.

I don't mean to sound harsh here but if you think the ROMs out there don't meet your expectations, make your own ones.
[Atrix 4G General] DroidRunner:
I love this thread

Sent with 4.0.3
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
Completely wrong, most of these guys don't even care about donations, or get very many to begin with. Please don't post lies about respected developers, and where did you even get this information anyways?
[Atrix 4G General] Jibraldor:
Congratulations, you have deservedly won the moron of the day award.

Please close this thread forum moderators. This is going nowhere at all.
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
Nottach changed from 3.2 to 4.0 because of internal changes that weren't released, ls HDMI was removed when he moved up to 2.3.5 instead of 2.3.4 and was later put in again after it was ported, and wet dream was started from fresh to minimize bugs since Darkside had so many of them.

EXT4 was removed due to using the stock 2.3.5 kernel, and was re added after faux updated his kernel to 2.3.5. And why would anyone complain about someone being fast to update their roms?

All this information is in his threads if you would just read. Oh, and I'm on CM9, Cm7 is my daily driver. I hate blur roms, tried to use them for my laptop dock but just can't get over how much I hate blur.
[Atrix 4G General] endlessevo:
I agree that quality and quantity are not mutually exclusive but lack of innovation in quantity makes for alot of the same boring stuff with different themes.

If people want to cook there own rom more power to them. But if it's the same thing that's already been done just for a "developer" title less is more.
[Atrix 4G General] apedropais:
I can say... I never flashed any Nottach's rom, neither bought any theme from him. Not because I don't like him or think he don't really know how to "really build" a rom. I just don't fell an obligation to flash every rom that appears in dev section.

I prefer to pass through the threads and learn some cool stuff. This guys, they put their knowledge to work, and learn even more with it. That how this forum works I think. And if they want to make some money with that... what's wrong about it? Just don't give them your money.

I always try not to polute threads with thanks messages, so devs don't fell bothered. Messages like yours make me worry that they will abandone Atrix... If you read entire alpha's kang thread you will see that he refused donation. Man... if was a dev and feel myself disrespected with someone's post, I'll surely never write down anything.

Peace.
[Atrix 4G General] Deggy:
I thought that tweet towards samcrip was a joke after all? He apologized after he got multiple death threats lol.
[Atrix 4G General] ssmr2t:
Damn this thread got blown out of proportion...too many people are trying to read too deep into my post. It wasent intended to belittle anyone or their work.

Im sorry im bored. :confused:
[Atrix 4G General] SirFork:
You realize where you're posting right? You realize it was begging for people to rant/complain about those who are devoting their time/energy (regardless of how much time/energy) to bring you new stuff to flash? It begs to ask the question 'why do I own an android device at all?' I mean, the people who flash ROMs so often are probably the same people who 5 years ago were formatting their drives testing out dozens of Linux distributions; of which were many different flavors of RedHat/Fedora, SuSE, Debian, etc, etc, etc. I remember in the early years installing bloated as hell OSes on my computer just for the sake of not having to scour for package dependencies.

Ultimately people have the freedom of choice to blend/create whatever blur/cm7/cm9-based ROMs they like. I personally thank Nottach for being as dedicated and frequently updating his projects as he is. No one should fault anyone for using a community to test said projects as a learning process. Sometimes you create a clusterfuck and the best thing to do is start over rather than untangling a nasty web, it happens! That's what you get for being a flashaholic; constantly trying new things, you become the proverbial guinea pig (guess what, Google is doing exactly the same thing!). There is nothing wrong with that, he's not blowing up your phone. You sound like an individual who should stay away from Motorola-based ROMs altogether since they are a clusterfuck to begin with right out of the box. Or maybe you'd be better off with an iPhone.

These kinds of threads discourage up and coming developers from ever posting their work. People have to start somewhere. The elitism, sense of entitlement, and quantity of just pure *****ing makes me wonder why anyone bothered to purchase an Android device, which happens to be the biggest social experiment Google has ever undertaken. Sorry folks, you should've bought an iPhone if you can't stand the freedom that your Android device provides.
[Atrix 4G General] Diviance:
I am not sure I understand why this thread exists. Don't complain about options, just ignore it if you aren't interested and move on.
[Atrix 4G General] lellouchftw:
Don't even know why you created this retarded thread.

In any case, kindly stop whinging about "omg too much cm9 ports" before these devs (such as joker) leave us.

I really facepalmed when I saw this thread btw.
[Atrix 4G General] Jibraldor:
....and the oscar for the best actor of 2012 goes to Ssmr2t from the movie "Whats with the influx of all these roms all over?".

Quit acting, if you really didn't mean what you said, you would have closed this thread already.
[Atrix 4G General] xploited:
The 3 kang CM9 roms are alpha state work-in-progress development roms.

If you don't know what's the difference between them -> you shouldn't be flashing them anyway and asking these questions.
[Atrix 4G General] sdlopez83:
What would compel you and your bird brain to conjure up s thread like this? This thread should not be closed as you should be tarred and feathered.
[Atrix 4G General] ssmr2t:
ICS coming officially from moto is what I consider ground breaking stuff... Im excited for it. You guys can keep your bluroms
[Atrix 4G General] live4nyy:
If Motorola releases an "

Official

" ICS build then it will probably be a Blur Rom. :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G General] KSoD:
I couldnt agree more to this statement. I only started flashing ROMs to my Atrix and I am grateful that there is such a choice. It allowed me to find the ROM that fit my needs as well as being versatile to do what I wanted.

I have not tried the CM9 KANG builds only cause I need my camera. It is part of my daily operations. Once Joker can get it working, best be sure I will flash his work onto my Atrix. The FP sensor fade wore of on me already and could care less about it. I dont use it anymore anyways.

I thank people like Joker who do take the time to develop for a device like the Atrix that already has fallen from grace from Motorola and AT&T. Neither could care less about the device. We will be lucky to see an updated Gingerbread build to get us past 2.3.4 let alone an ICS build to hit this device. Yet we have someone like Joker willing to take his time to develop for a device he doesnt even own?

I would love to post more thanks in the Development section. But I dont have enough posts and by far am less than knowledgeable in Android than most on XDA. I am not a developer not a coder. I am an old Windows Geek who got into Android on a fluke and feel in love with it. Now spending my time flashing ROMS and having fun. I barely know these terms but I am still grateful to all the Devs for their work. Cant wait for the taxes to come back to donate.
[Atrix 4G General] plaster:
You were banned once, right? I mean you speak and complain exactly like the asshat that got banned for attacking nottach about a month or so ago. You act like you're his ex-wife or something. Did he not let you blow him?

If you don't like the dude, ignore him and move on. This stalking bit just looks pathetic and needy.
[Atrix 4G General] dicksteele:
Nothing like capping off a long day at work reading someone calling someone else an asshat, and speaking the truth.

My day is complete.

EDIT : I love my signature.
[Atrix 4G General] _Alex_:
Apologies folks, I should have closed this thread yesterday.

I'm very close to banning ssmr2t for trolling, as the crap he said in samcripp's thread and his comments in noattach's rom thread are beyond belief, but since it was handled by others, I'm going to let it slide.

Not sure if this was an intentional troll thread or not, but consider yourself warned, I'll be watching you ssmr2t! Feel free to PM me if you have questions.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phylis2003@gmail.com:
I have a Kindle Fire (that I love!) and have tried almost everything posted on this website, but so far nothing has worked.

Does anyone have a REAL solution to this issue? Sorry, I don't mean to sound rude, it's just really frustrating that I cannot get anything I've read on these forums to work.

I just want to be able to download apps from Android Market which is obviously ran by Google. I am completely at a loss here and not to tech-savvy.....:confused:

Thanks for any info that anyone can provide...

Phylis
[Kindle Fire General] oaklund8:
Got pushed OTA 6.2.2 today. No root, haven't tried burrito again since I'm at work. Does amazon do this on purpose?? What are the benefits of this new update?
[Kindle Fire General] TesseractSpace:
I'm not sure it's necessarily intentional so much as they're using an update method that doesn't take root into account. Basically the update is a complete wipe and overwrite of boot and system areas. Since they start from the assumption that their users haven't touched these areas (as you'd need root to do so if I understand these things correctly), they have no concern about doing a complete wipe and reload of them.

I suppose it's at least potentially a cleaner update than doing one that just updates individual files, but it is a pain when you're not expecting it.

Of course I'm basing this on just what I've seen of the way the updates are built, someone who has looked at it more than I may be able to tell if they are deliberately trying to prevent root or if they're just inadvertently causing problems with re-rooting.

As for the updates, seems a bit smoother now, there's a full screen option in the silk browser as well as an option to encrypt traffic between the Fire and the Silk servers.
[Kindle Fire General] lmntone:
format("ext4", "EMMC", "/dev/block/platform/mmci-omap-hs.1/by-name/system");
mount("ext4", "EMMC", "/dev/block/platform/mmci-omap-hs.1/by-name/system", "/system");
show_progress(0.300000, 30);
package_extract_dir("recovery", "/system");
package_extract_dir("system", "/system");

From the 6.2.2 update script...

It basically formats, mounts, then applies the new system.
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
news from jcase: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21595398&postcount=105
[Kindle Fire General] MadJoe:
Amazon doesn't care about your root, they care about patching exploits, or improving the functionality of the device. If root gets broken in the process, so be it.

Benefits so far are that the carousel isn't as sensitive, so its easier to scroll, and the browser had new options and seems smoother.

Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
[Galaxy S II General] Vik_92_Sandhu:
Quick guide on how to root and flash rom on GS2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HJcaK1AYutk
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dumbdroid:
Could anyone port the asus my water live wallpaper for our galaxy nexus? I've downloaded the app for the gs2 but no luck...i would love to see this wallpaper for the galaxy nexus.

Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
I think it has several ties with the Asus Transformer Hardware. I don't think it is a very easy task.

I was never fond of it anyway. The rotation wasn't smooth enough to make it look good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] flipper44:
Think some one is working on it now

On this Thread their is documentation on how to roll your own.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1116105&page=22

Looks like someone is working on a Galaxy Nexus one...they just don't have a gnex.

I downloaded their progress and it works accept for the water surface

They have it working on other Machines that aren't Tegra 2...So its just a matter of time. I have it on My Toshiba Thrive Tablet
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ddrt:
I have made a video of the occurrence. http://youtu.be/aQp4CZv5yH0

This sound begins when I boot my phone and it begins when the launcher loads. It ends if I pull down the notification bar but nothing else will stop it. The sound is called Minimal tone and has not been set as a ringtone, notification or an alarm sound on the entire device.

Rom: [ROM]Blazer Rom[1/5/12][v3.5]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1363071

Kernel: Rogue EL29

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1390393

Modem: EG12

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1352310

Just did a Factory wipe/restore on phone.

I had this problem before but it was only when I had incorrectly flashed the wrong kernel. This time everything checks out.

EDIT: wiped phone, again, flashed modem EG12 to EL13 and then to EL29 then re-flashed EL29 Kernel. No problems so far. Believe it was a random bug.
[General Topics] iekansh:
www.maximumpc.com/article/news/sopa_bill_gets_shelved_due_lack_consensus

So it has been stalled! Will XDA still get shut?
[General Topics] AFAinHD:
Yes! Finally some recognition!

I still thing that XDA will go dark because the SOPA isn't dead, it's just injured, also Protect IP and ACTA still need to be taken down, but now that we got a win we are showing them that we are not a people to mess with!
[General Topics] orb3000:
http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?f=256
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vik_92_Sandhu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HJcaK1AYutk
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Koblizek:
Wrong section?
[Nexus S General] xmatrix13:
Hey guys, I have an issue with my screen slightly flickering when it is woken up by pressing the power button then put back to sleep.

I've had this issue ever since I've switched to ICS (tried multiple ICS roms, including ASOP built ones and Stock).

I have an i9020a, so I'm not sure if its attributed to this specific model. EDIT* apparently it affects other models as well based upon the information in the forum link at the bottom of this post**

Currently I'm not using any voodoo controls to adjust colors.

How to reproduce:

1. Press power button to put screen to sleep.

2. Press power button to wake screen up.

3. Press power button again to put screen to sleep. At this point when the screen goes to sleep you should see a slight flicker, sometimes hard to see so look closely, but the lockscreen time and unlock button will become visible for a second and then the screen will go black.

4. Repeat if it doesn't occur the first time, because i notice it happens the majority of time but not always.

Hopefully someone else can reproduce this and then maybe we can find a way to fix it. Thanks guys.

EDIT** Found some more information on this bug:

-Video of problem (more drastic than mine, however same issue) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRub7rhwiZ0&feature=youtu.be

-Another forum discussing the problem - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1417513
[Nexus S General] Esteway.619:
Flash matrix kernel 14.5 and it will go away
[Nexus S General] xmatrix13:
I'm currently using matrix kernel 14.5.....not the voodoo colors one.....and it still have the problem if I pay close attention (it's not as bad as that video, very had to see, but still there nonetheless). FYI it's not the green screen flicker; could be related, but it happens on the OTA ICS as well.