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[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] europeancity:
Hi all!

I sent DJ_Steve money for coffee a while ago, and I was hoping he would get us a nice ICS build for our devices. I still hope him to do so, but I want to ask two related questions here:

How many of you Streak 5 owners would chip in, say... 5 or 10 USDs to get us an ICS upgrade?

And for you skilled developers out there: how much money and kudos would you think would be necessary for you to continue the development?

I have two of these beasts. I really enjoy the user experience, and I don't want to have to buy a new device in a while. I would gladly put down another 5 or 10 bucks to see this happen.

Would you?

Cheers!
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sanyokt4j:
I'd already donated to djsteve when he got gingerbread out so I'd be down for another 20 bucks.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andy1weir@hotmail.co.uk:
ye id sling him a 20 :)
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] filotti:
I would gladly donate 20 dollars to the developer who makes a working ICS port and disables the capacitive buttons.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashr:
Pledges like this have gone around and around for the last 6 months....

AFAIK ICS wont make it to the Dell Streak 5 any time soon because the drivers still need to be reverse engineered to make it work.

Unless Dell release the drivers ICS on the 5 wont happen
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vanemburghj:
Ashr is on target (straight from DJ_Steve's twitter to this thread), unless there is somebody out there with lots of time on their hands to crunch code, not going to happen. Plus Steve said the other day he is getting close to the boiling point, because too many people are bugging him, that he might just stop ICS development all together. Good thought and all that, but think it is a bridge too far to see ICS on Dell Streak 5 and the fault clearly falls on Dell's shoulders. Dell could have released the code a long time ago, but chose’s not too and hides behind very weak excuses. Other companies have released their source code and very good ROMs are the result of it.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] europeancity:
Is there an easy way to publicly ask Dell to provide all the necessary tools and code to allow the devs to get us an ICS for our Streaks?

The way I see it, Dell looses nothing by providing with such tools, and although indirectly continue to support the device which is a good thing. Not doing it doesn't make much sense, and I'd see it as *bad business policy*.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Obviously you hadn't seen the press release from Dell where they slammed their Android devices because of their unrealistic expectations regarding Android as well as their lack of any marketing whatsoever.

Dell doesn't care about "bad business policy" regarding Android, and even if they did there's nothing they can do about it. Reason why is they didn't develop the Streak. It was developed for them and the company that did the developing has shown absolutely zero interest in releasing the sources for their drivers. Sorry, but the only way the Streak is going to see ICS is if the drivers are reverse engineered.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheManii:
It's really dell's job to get the whole driver source mess sorted out.

While Qisda did build the hardware and make the rom, they did it on contract for dell. Even if they wanted to they couldnt do it without dell's blessing.

It's the equivilent of flying on a plane, if your service was bad, something went wrong, plane crashed; you dont contact/blame boeing/airbus, you blame the carrier. Even if it was boeing/airbus's fault you're still supposed to blame the carrier as it's their problem. The only time you'd lay the blame on the plane maker directly is the short window (in a perfect world) where an issue is found but they have yet to notify the carriers that run that specific model.

Though there's also the fact that dell may not have the rights to release it, as who knows what the ownership situtation is with it.

A similar example would be if planes had some small piece of classified tech so that it cant be fixed by their guys, they'd have to mail it in and get a new one or something.

Keep in mind both examples are of course gross oversimplifications, there's always gonna be exceptions and whatnot.

The majority of the sources for each individial component is available in one form or another due to other devices using the same parts, but having the source and being able to glue them together into something worth using are two entirely seperate worlds. The gap to bridge is still pretty damn big. (also keep in mind drivers still have to be updated for ICS, gb source level drivers still arnt enough by themselves unless they're coincidentially unchanged from GB -> ICS)
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thatg:
Bump for some ics
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bauner:
I working since a few weeks on an ics rom, but I can't say how long it will take because I don't have much time to make further
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] esco757:
I'm down, I'm holding off on getting the Note for two reasons... 1. Of the wack a** posts and newbies w/ the note that just refuse to believe the device has a flaw... The "Shipping" Thread/ Post had to be one of the g**** post I ever witnessed lol!... Plus the folks that swear its worth $300 bucks but cried a river to ATT/BB when it dropped to $150 within a day but then say they would pay $300 for it again : /

2. The Streak has served me well for the past 2yrs...I'm loyal to things that are loyal to me.

I want ICS on this Device big time... If not, further dev on CM7 and/or CM9.. If someone can make it happen, I will make that individual a happy person..pz
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Loco007:
I'd happily donate $20+ for ICS or CM9!

Thanks to all the developers out there that have kept the streak alive!
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] esco757:
Any updates to your status? I'm holding off for dear life for a upgrade/update for CM7/CM9 or ICS..If not then it's fine and I greatly appreciate everyone's efforts, this just may be the last night I use my beloved streak as a full time phone:(... almost 2yrs, same device the entire time..
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] europeancity:
I'm bumping this thread because it looks like DJSteve may be up for the task. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1992263&page=2
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GameX2:
Hi,

I'm interested in getting in Nexus One!

Not sure if I'll do for now, but it looks to fill my needs perfectly (Well, doesn't have a lot of internal memory, but still more than my Optimus One)!

The price looks fine, actually. The new phones are way too expensive, for me. Allright, questions before I purchase or so:

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The speed: it seems the Nexus One is blazing fast with his 1 GHz processor, but at which point? My LG Optimus One (Okay, that's 600 MHz, normal) does lag quite often, and I have a lot of APPs installed (I use them all. Kept the more useful only). Will I experience slowdowns like this on the Nexus One, especially if I plan to install Cyanogenmod 7 ?

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Next question, it's about his "unlocked" statut; I've been searching about this, but I can't find the exact answer of my question.. It does allow you to use any SIM card from any operator in it, but does that also mean I could use my Nexus One not to call? Basically, use it without calling, so that I wouldn't pay for this service?

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Last questions are about Cyanogenmod and the stock firmware. Does all the Nexus One come with Android 2.2 installed, or others still have Android 2.1 ? I would like to install Cyanogenmod 7, and upgrade to Android 2.3.6 (I like the interface, for some reason, with the black notification bar. That sound dead-easy to install), but can I install both ? What should I do first, upgrade from 2.2 (or 2.1?) to 2.3.6 then install Cyanogenmod, or the reverse? Will that work?

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pay bac:
Q1. Imo the n1 is still quite snappy in comparison to the latest phones. Cm7 runs very well so do the miui based Roms. No need to worry about internal memory with a2sd. Some apps experience a little lag when cache is on sd, but think that is more dependant on sd card class. Still the best phone in its 2nd hand price range I reckon.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GameX2:
Thank you, this is good news!

I don't have the money to buy a 300/500$ phone (My max would be 200, I guess), I think the Nexus One would be just fine!

I anyone can answer my other questions, please let me know!
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilkorn:
You don't need a sim card for the phone to function, if that's what you're asking.

You can install any PASSIMG you want, though some people have problems downgrading, but you can search for the version older fixes.

Just unlock it, install a custom recovery, then you can flash whatever rooted rom you wish.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GameX2:
Great!

If I don't use a SIM Card, are they setting and APPs (Contacts?) other than calling that will be disabled ?

Right now, my LG Optimus One smartphone is on a Koodo contract; so let's suppose I put my Optimus One SIM card in my Nexus, I'll stay with the same contract, and I'll still pay the same way I do normally?

In other words, a SIM card isn't required, but if I decide to use my Nexus to call, I can simply put my Koodo SIM card in my Nexus, and nothing should change, right (Except that I'm now using my Nexus to call, rather than my LG!) ?

Currently, the hardest thing to do seems to install and set-up the ADB console. I've checked guides to help me, anyways.

Hope you can understand me, I'm French!

Thanks for the help! :D
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XeloOw:
hello, le nexus est un superbe phone, si tu as 200€ c'est bon

Envoyé depuis mon Transformer TF101 avec Tapatalk
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ricky9237:
Let's put this way. If you turn on the flight mode, all your apps in N1 will still work. You can also make call too even without a sim card or in flight mode if you have wifi and Voip app running.

I don't see why you need to pay more or less if you just simply plug in your sim card and use the N1.

Rooting and installing custom rom are not that difficult. All you need to read more XDA threads. For rooting, you can use some app to do it for you. All you need is just "one click". That's done. Then you can install rom manager to install custom recovery and roms. Good luck.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
Read some replies in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1438829

It's a waste of money to spend $200 on Nexus One.
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GameX2:
Okay, rooting won't be a problem, I've read about "Universal Androot"!

Thank you!

I've read the whole thread, and people recommend to get an HTC Sensation or HTC Amaze; the problem, is that I'm in Quebec, and I'm trying to find used phones, for some models, it can be a challenge.

Actually, the minimum price of the HTC Sensation I found was 300$, while the HTC Amaze, 360$.

When I checked the SPECs of differents phones, the availibility in Quebec, and the price range, there are however 3 phones that caught my eye (No need for me to get the newest phone with Android 4.0 and a lot of new features for the price of 400$):

- HTC Incredible S ;

- HTC Desire ;

- HTC Nexus One ;

I've been looking for others phones, such as Motorolla Droid Pro, but many aren't availible here.

Considering that I spent like 175$ on a Creative ZEN Touch 2, I feel like paying about the same deal for a Nexus One wouldn't be a bad deal; what I like about it, it's his automatic unlocked statut.

If I still won't be happy with a Nexus One, what would you recommend, 200$ being the maximum price for me?
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n1newbie:
Now that google had announced officially that there wont be any future updates(ICS) for N1. U may need to pause n think a bit if u r specific abt OTA update. But the great techno devs are already doing an amazing work to bring ICS to n1. So that should not be much of an issue.

If u asking abt hardware specs, n1 is better or atleast equivalent to any mid range droids out there in the market. I bought mine 2 months back for 250$. I am happy n lovin it.

So ur $200 deal seems to be good :)
[Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jack_R1:
First, you can forget about "Universal Androot", it's long outdated and won't help you.

In that price range, as I wrote multiple times, HTC MyTouch 4G is so far superior to Nexus One, while being priced in the same range, that I wouldn't even think about considering N1. I have one, and I had N1 before it. No comparison whatsoever between the two.

The only warnings that should be put here:

1) MT4G has 2 types of screen, "good" one being much better than "bad" one. Good one is better than N1's AMOLED for me, "bad" one has color distortion when viewed from angle. Look for the good one.

2) MT4G has 2 types of ROM chip (eMMC), "good" and "bad" one. There was much hype on the forum, considering the "bad" one a "ticking bomb", advising not to root. I hope this hype is long over, and this "issue" is non-issue.

3) MT4G is not as easy to root as other phones. No 1-click-root is available for this phone on the latest OS, rooting requires downgrading it. Not a complicated procedure, and multiple guides exist.
[Nokia Lumia 800] wwfc:
Hello my fellow nerds.

I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.

Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)

Lumia 800 - £406

Titan - £410

WINNER - Lumia 800

Screen

Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi

Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi

WINNER - Tie

CPU

Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU

Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU

WINNER - Titan

Storage

Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)

Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory

WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card

Additional software

Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps

Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera

WINNER - Lumia 800 for me

Camera

Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC

Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP

WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc

Sensors

Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass

Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.

WINNER - Titan

Battery

Lumia 800 - 1450Mah

Titan - 1600Mah

WINNER - Titan

So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.

IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.

What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.

Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
I looked at both as well, though I was always biased toward the Lumia. It was, after all, the only thing I really wanted, since I'm a big Nokia fan. I just wanted to make sure I was making the right decision.

Yes, the Titan has a larger display. The Lumia, hands down, has a much more beautiful display, IMO.

After playing w/ 4.7", 4.3" (HTC HD2), and 3.7", I do prefer the smaller form factor. It feels easier to do things with one hand.

Speaking of hands. For me, the Lumia feels amazing. I love that the protective sleeve looks exactly like the phone. And, I prefer my phones to be a bit flashy. I like to own phones that other people generally don't have, or that I'm not likely to bump into. I'm that way about cologne, too. I once had someone recognize a scent I was wearing. Granted, it was a common designer, but I never wore it again. I much prefer "OMG, what are you wearing" and "OMG, what a sexy phone!" HAHAHA

The Lumia has its downsides. Music playback quality is sub-par, even through ear phones. The lows are missing. Internet Sharing has yet to be enabled, and lack of notification light is something I notice.

Having said that, I'm very happy with my beautiful cyan smartphone.
[Nokia Lumia 800] wwfc:
Well, the Titan has just dropped to £383.99 ($592.07) on Handtec.co.uk. If it was Amazon, clove or expansys i would by now, but I've heard really mixed reviews of Handtec. Some people say its fine, but lots of people say they sent the wrong item or it was damaged or came weeks, sometimes even months late, even after paying for next day delivery. Has anyone here brought their Lumia or any other phone on Handtec.co.uk? Cheers.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
I had an awesome experience with Handtec.co.uk

They were the only business to confirm the product code of the Lumia 800 and the correct bands on it. Other sites either did not reply, or quoted Nokia's website. Handtec also processed the order and I received here in Seattle 36hrs after I submitted the order. Another user (halfnelson...) ordered his Lumia from handtec as well. That's how I learned of them. He had a fantastic experience, too.

Are you in the UK?
[Nokia Lumia 800] wwfc:
Yeah in the UK. Have taken the plunge and ordered the Titan. I'll give it a month or two and hopefully by then the Lumia 900 might even be available in the UK. Thanks for you're help :);)
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
Good for you! Bet you'll have it real soon.

Ima gonna bet that the Lumia 900 won't officially make it out of the US for quite some time. AT&T loves their exclusivity contracts. If you were to obtain an unlocked AT&T model, odds are likely that they will have forced Nokia to make it tri-band UMTS, just to screw everyone else out of a fully functioning device.
[Nokia Lumia 800] wwfc:
Yeah wouldn't surprise me at all. I hate it when carriers get exclusives. Don't see why Nokia couldn't sell the 800 and/or 900 through their official site sim-free. Oh well, if europe doesn't get the 900 maybe something else will be announced around july/august time in line with Apollo. Maybe even something with a high res screen and 32GB storage. We can only hope i suppose ;)
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
I just hope that whatever comes out isn't as sexy as the Lumia 800. I just can't afford a nasty smartphone habit in this economy.
[Nokia Lumia 800] wwfc:
Aha i've already got that habit unfortunately. It's not fun :/ I always feel guilty after clicking 'Order'. Then when the device comes through the post i lose the guilt and get ridiculously exited :) Got a Galaxy Nexus, Sensation XL, Omnia 7, Desire HD and now Titan. Might have to sell some soon :P
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
I worked for AT&T from 2001-2007 and formed my habit there. I got the first color phone from Nokia... the 7210. I then splurged on the 8801, the the 8600 Luna. Then, dropped down to the just-as-flashy-but-less-expensive-and-well-featured 6700 classic (silver). There were other Nokias as well, but not so hot as these ones. Glad to be back in with them again. The titan is nice, but it's missing the sexy factor. Well, unless size matters. Then, it's the clear winner.
[Nokia Lumia 800] HOFFERN342:
After I tried them both out in the store I chose the Lumia 800 (went home and ordered it from Amazon.de for 380 euroes, which was a lot cheaper than the Titan at 490 euroes..).

The Lumia just looks so much better, and feels more comfortable in the hand (also usable with 1 hand.. which was, obviously, more difficult with the titan, then again.. I have medium hands).

The AMOLED display is also far more superb than the SLCD on the Titan (in my opinion). I did not notice much difference on the processor side, but then again, the difference between them are really small.

After the update my phone lasts easily 3 days on battery with quite a lot of usage, which is in my opinion quite good for a smartphone.

Oh, you should have compared the "sound" when talking in it.. it is a phone you know! ;) For me the Lumia wins here tho, since it has a noice canceling function which makes it easier for someone to hear you in the other end when it is filtering away sounds from for example your car or background noise. It also has good sound into your ear.
[Nokia Lumia 800] wwfc:
Thanks for the feedback. I can't put sound as a category, as i haven't had both phones, so i don't know about sound quality. I've only played with them briefly in store. Anyway, Titan is coming tomorrow.
[Nokia Lumia 800] z33dev33l:
Build quality, sound, support, lumia has many wins you didn't address.
[Nokia Lumia 800] wwfc:
Build quality would be a tie IMO. Lots of people with the lumia and n9 complain of creaking from the chassis, and people with the titan praise it's build, so idk. Sound the Titan is a downright winner. The Lumia 800 has quite frankly pathetic sound quality from what I've heard (albeit only a sample clip) and what people say on this forum. I don't know what you mean by support? Both would be sim free for me so the OS updates would be received at exactly the same time i would of thought.
[Nokia Lumia 800] MiguelC:
Replaceable battery as a category

It's a question of taste, I know... The sealed enclosure is a dream for phone designers, and leads to gorgeous phones. However, the ability to swap batteries is a plus for road warriors. A plus for Titan, in my opinion...
[HTC Titan] wwfc:
Hello my fellow nerds.

I'm sure a fair few of you also had/have this dilemma. Should i buy the Nokia Lumia 800 or the HTC Titan? I'll go through some spec comparisons and then my pro's and cons, then i'll ask you guys for you're opinions. Right.

Price (Next day delivery from Handtec - cheapest i could find)

Lumia 800 - £406

Titan - £410

WINNER - Lumia 800

Screen

Lumia 800 - 3.7" AMOLED Clear Black display 480x800 252ppi

Titan - 4.7" SLCD 480x800 199ppi

WINNER - Tie

CPU

Lumia 800 - 1.4Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU

Titan - 1.5Ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255 with Adreno 205GPU

WINNER - Titan

Storage

Lumia 800 - 16GB (Unsure what type)

Titan - 16GB Samsung flash memory

WINNER - Titan due to flash over sd card

Additional software

Lumia 800 - Nokia drive, Nokia music, Ovi Maps

Titan - HTC Hub, Flashlight, Internet sharing, Panoramic & burst modes in camera

WINNER - Lumia 800 for me

Camera

Lumia 800 - 8MP f2.2 28mm sensor Carl Ziess Optics Dual LED flash, No FFC

Titan - 8MP f2.2 28mm lens Backlit BSI sensor Dual LED fla, FFC 1.3MP

WINNER - Titan for lens size, backlit sensor and ffc

Sensors

Lumia 800 - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass

Titan - Accelerometer, Proximity, Light, Compass, Gyroscope.

WINNER - Titan

Battery

Lumia 800 - 1450Mah

Titan - 1600Mah

WINNER - Titan

So from that, the Titan won 5, the Lumia 800 won 2, and one was a tie. So, on specs the Titan wins it.

IMHO, i think the Lumia 800 is a great phone, but overall the Titan beats it. But i still find myself wanting the Lumia. I don't know if it's the looks, the display, or just the ability to own something crafted so beautifully, but i just want it. They are both truly great phones and both really push the OS forwards and into the limelight, so to speak.

What does everyone think? I'll post this on both the Lumia 800 and HTC Titan boards, so more people see it.

Thanks for having a little read. Let me know your opinions below please. Thankyou geek community.