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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
For the sake of argument (lol) I'll just throw out there that the Spectrum is not better on paper. An inferior processor, ips screen (IMO is not on par with amoled displays), and no nfc. It is not better on paper.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GNowner:
I'm far from being an expert. For average user 1.5 > 1.2. In terms of screen quality I watched the presentation from CES and the guy sounded very much convincing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lil Jones:
People who say Samsung is bad at updating have never had the displeasure of using a LG. LG is the company who releases phones Q3 2011 with 2.2 and it seems like LG has forgotten that phone already.

Google should not give licenses(market access) to companies requesting it to release a phone running a Version that was replaced more then 6 month in the past. So LGs issue is partially googles for being so lax on giving the license out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kendrick16:
I give credit where credit is due. The ips screen is absolutely beautiful. Much better than the gnex. The lag on the UI and horrendous battery life is what kills it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ozymandiaz:
For what it's worth, I love my Gnex. But if I needed to be away from a charger for more than 8 hours (where I would be using my phone, not just idle stand by time) I would carry my LG Revolution. It's rock solid stable overclocked to 1.9 ghz, and with the 3000 mah extended battery, I get all day and all night use out of my phone. You pay a premium for a 4.65 screen, and that premium is battery drain. The Gnex is superior to my revo in every way except battery life, but sometimes battery life is the most important thing in a phone. (good thing I have two lines, I can choose which phone to take with me depending on how long I need the battery to last!) all that being said, I'm not usually away from a charger, so the battery life of the Gnex is not a deal breaker for me, It hasn't let me down yet, it did get down to 2 per cent once, because I forgot to put it on the charger in a low signal area for 8 hours, but that was my fault, not the phone's fault!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Well any phone with a 3000mAh battery is going to be solid on battery life and give you a day's use... You're comparing the revolution with a 3000mAh battery to a GN with a 1750mAh.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ozymandiaz:
The Gnex, even if there were a 3000 mah battery available for it (which there isn't) would not get near the life that the revolution does. That's not knocking the Gnex, but pumping out the better resolution on a much larger screen, using more cores, is going to use much more battery. It's just a fact of life. The Revolution, even on the stock 1500 (or so, I think it's actually 1450 or something) battery is going to last longer than the Gnex, due to the smaller resolution and screen size. My point was only that the more the phone can do, the shorter time the battery lasts.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sharpshooterrr:
I've read somewhere that Galaxy Nexus' screen, being Amoled, will eventually have screen burn in. LG Spectrum's IPS display will not have any piece of that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] coreyjohnson711:
Went to the verizon store today to see which phone I liked better. In my opinion the Spectrum's screen is superior to the Nexus's screen. I compared them at min, mid, and max brightness while web surfing and watching HD videos. I also like the glass on the spectrum more than the nexus, it was much smoother on the spectrum. If there turns out to be a good community on XDA for the spectrum, I would get it over the nexus. However, given that I don't know if that will be the case, my choice is much harder. I think the UI is a little buggy on the spectrum and LG has had some issues with timely updates. The nexus already has a huge community here with custom tweaks and roms, and ICS is obviously better than gingerbread.

I am hoping some in depth reviews pop-up over the weekend for the spectrum.

EDIT: Also did some speed tests, Spectrum had an upload speed of around 11 Mbps whereas the Nexus barley got 6 Mbps. Download was inconsistent, Nexus got around 11 Mbps to 13 Mbps, Spectrum got 12 Mpbs to 17 Mbps. Online results are better for the Nexus, wonder if it is just the area I am in
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sbabutk:
I also did speed comparison in a chicago area Verizon store, download speed for Nexus was between 7-10Mbps and Spectrum was always 24-25Mbps(phones were setup next to each other).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Aaron Rodgers Beard:
Speeds on my Gnex in Menomonee Falls WI. Running bugless beast rom.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Aerocaptain:
3 strikes against the Spectrum: 4 gig internal memory, support wont even come near the GN, and well its a LG.

Sent from:

Galaxy Nexus

w/GummyNex + franco.kernal

using XDA Premium
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dinan:
Gingerbread... and by the time the spectrum actually gets ICS the LG X3 will be out with ICS and tegra3 so you'll want to switch anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] coreyjohnson711:
Don't care about internal memory, what do you mean by "support"?, and your last point is rather moot.

My main concern with the nexus is the screen. I really like the IPS on the spectrum, and I have read a few threads, (see two below) about the screen issues the GN

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1353324

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1391509

I usually have my phone at minimum brightness and it seems like this makes issues more noticeable.

Also the texture of the glass on the GN is not as smooth as gorilla glass which I feel could bother me.

If you mean support from the forums, then of course you are correct, there isn't even a sub-forum for the spectrum right now.

I'd like to make the point I am not AGAINST the GN or FOR the Spectrum, I just want to make the right choice here.

My problems with the LG are mostly software related.

Buggy UI : I am hoping removing widgets / homescreens may help, but I have my doubts, some reviews have had no issues while others have had lots...

No ICS: Obviously a big deal as ICS is a big step up from gingerbread.

The fact you have to save pictures to SD card to view them from a MMS, WTF?!

No LED notifications: to me this is a pretty big deal :/ I'll have to see how NOLED(android app)works if I were to get the Spectrum.

Where I found out about the MMS issue

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/lg-spectrum-verizon-wireless/4852-6452_7-35117993.html

Also Bluetooth seems to be a bit crummy

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=9727&p=4778

This was useful for comparing the GN to the Spectrum

http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-spectrum/151977-lg-spectrum-reviewed.html

Decisions decisions.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GoZhU:
Just because its "google phone", and its also has ICS at first time already, whats your mentioned are not very advantaged :D:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jameslepable:
Having had 2 lg phones I am going to say hell to the no on getting it. The will be a new lg phone at Mobile world congress with tera3 or something in it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jameswalkerrotc:
Lg spectrum to get 4.0 soon

Hey guys,

Im currently debating between the two phones right now, but one thing that has sparked my interest is that i have actually seen the spectrum running ICS! Believe me or not, but i was at the store, and one of the workers who had the spectrum was showing his to me, and he was running 4.0. I asked him how, but he wouldnt tell me. My guess (probably inaccurate) is that they have already built a version of 4.0 that is compatible with the spectrum, but are waiting to release it for some reason. I mean, how else would he have ICS on it, when root forums havent really started up on the spectrum. Also another reason that i think this might be the case is because the dedicated soft keys at the bottom of the phone are the same style that 4.0 uses.

Just something to keep in mind about this phone. If they already have an ICS build waiting to be sent out... that really means that this phone is a top competitor with the nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] k20igor:
In my opinion and experience i will never own an LG phone for as long as i live. Ive had 3 LG phones and they all sucked after about a months use. quality is nice for the forst few weeks and then it starts falling apart. battery sucks, soon as it blinks sayign its low it just shuts down and that it. I hate their UI and the designs in my opinion arent good looking.

I love my nexus and after using ICS for a while i wouldnt go back to gingerbread at all no matter how much more powerful or w/e another phone may be to the nexus

but to each his own
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MattSkeet:
These days software is all about the phone ... not the specs .look at windows phone one core and runs smoothly ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xisaacbx:
This gave me a good laugh. LG is trash and even if they do get ICS I bet its gonna be ugly as hell with LG's custom skin over it. Also the fact that any Verizon employee knows about phones, other then trying to make commission sales is funny.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bop12:
In terms of support from the dev community, I'd stick with the GNex. I don't know if it's just me, but I've never been a fan of LG's custom UI interface.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] entropism:
The LG Thrill was one of the worst phones I've ever seen, and after LG's

LONG

line of quality control and software screw-ups I vowed never to buy an LG again. The Thrill was out in August, and they promised an update to Gingerbread "Within the month". AFAIK it still isn't out yet. In addition, you get a laggy touchscreen that takes 2-3 taps to actually respond (problematic on the Optimus "letters", Thrill AND Nitro), horrific battery life, and a slow, almost unusable phone in stock form. Now add in the fact that you're going to be searching for devs for LG phones, because nobody bothers to cook ROMs for them.

The first Thrill I got had about 4 hours of IDLE battery time, and got very hot while charging. I returned it for another, and that one got so hot it was unusable while on the charger. Actually went into thermal protection and the adhesive around the screen melted, dripping black goo down the inside of the glass.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 3devious:
I loved my V and EnV. The EnV Touch was OK (that is what Assurion gave me when I lost my Dare.) I wanted the Ally but it was not as powerful as my Droid though the keyboard was a million times plus infinity better.

The Revolution was tempting to me but only a little better than my Droid 2 R2D2. I loved LG's feature phones and if it had come out a month ago, I'd be rockin' a Spectrum right now. ICS is very nice but the GN camera, speakerphone and network speeds on VZW are very disappointing.

To those that say my problems would be solved with root I say that I shouldn't have to root a $600 phone for basic functionality.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] coreyjohnson711:
Thanks for the info about the speakerphone, that is also pretty important to me and sad to here it's not so great
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Simer03:
Buying an LG product will be your worst decision! They suck with updates, their phones are buggy, and that lg skin....ugh....don't fall for specs...there's no point in having good hardware without the software to back it up! Those specs are mediocre, and with only gingerbread, its already outdated

sent from my Nexus Prime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] coreyjohnson711:
I do not want to sound rude, but the GN is the only verizon phone right now with ICS...Does that make all phones outdated aside from the GN?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Software wise, yes it does.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Simer03:
Ummm...yeah...cuz by the time the others get ICS....the nexus will probably be on the "J" software

sent from my Nexus Prime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] coreyjohnson711:
huh, well alright then, interesting way to look at it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AcE XBOX:
Hey not all reps are the same. I'll always keep customers away from LG's... ever since I started working there the damn LG env series is always having fukking issues.

And not sure how that rep got ICS on the spectrum because the LG rep was at the store a few days ago running gingerbread on his demo.

To be fair, the Spectrum looks like a solid phone. Haven't had many customers buy it yet or had too much experience with it myself, but the phone looks nice. I'll play with it when I get to work. The interface sucks though, just like the revolutions.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stretched:
You can get the nexus for $99 on Amazon right now. http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...2A1S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1327687497&sr=8-2

ICS was the kicker for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kolyan:
SGS3 and Xperia S are sure nice
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] coreyjohnson711:
For new customers, (upgrade is showing $259) which I am not, and I can only get a phone through VZW it seems. I am part of a company account (but for my family) and Wirefly was unable to "process this type of account that you have" when I tried to order a GN for $239 last night. If VZW had the GN in store for $99 it would be a no brainer...

Since the S2 wasn't picked up by verizon, I wonder if they will even get the S3. And the Xperia S is supposed to come out with gingerbread, boo.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Simer03:
U guys.....Google is not dumb! They make software to go around the hardware! U don't need these crazy specs because u can't take full advantage without the software! Hence the galaxy nexus! Quad cores are coming....for gods sake....what in gods name do we need 4 (or 5 apparently in tegra 3) cores in our cell phones for?? Oy...

sent from my Nexus Prime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] coreyjohnson711:
If anyone was wondering i went with the nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mr_xx:
I was. What made you finally decide to go Nexus?

i am at the same point. i really wanted GSII but VZW screwed that up for me
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wonshikee:
The only solid LG phone was the optimus one, at least on virgin mobile - it's the only really good phone (factoring in that it's a low end market).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jameswalkerrotc:
just an update on this post. Went back and talked to the guy about it. Guy said it was a custome rom, not a release build from lg. he said it was pretty glitchy. I was just surprised to see that someone managed to get the phone rooted and ics on it soo quickly as the phone just came out.

also i was able to look at it and validate that it was an ics build.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] buhohitr:
Ok, first if you ask about LG in the GN forum....well not too bright.

GN price=299

LG price=99 (you can buy 3 for the same price as GN)

cpu= dual core is dual core (I have single core and very happy with it).

camara=8meg, definitely better than 5meg (samsung 8meg camera is better than samsing 5meg camera).

Consumer rating on LG is as good as GN (4-1/2star out of 5)-This is important.

Software not ICS, not a problem, so is 99% of other cell phones in the world. But it coming...4-5 months? I can live with that.(what are you going to do with ICS that you can't do with GB? and is it critical that you must have this feature?

Better screen- no question about this (go see for yourself).

So my point - It's NOT BAD AT ALL, think about it, the rating is as good and the price is not even debating.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
The kind of people who visit sites like these are not going to be in on that "rating".

Those are regular consumers who usually know diddly about smartphones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] buhohitr:
Those regular consumers are the people that make Iphone sold like cup cakes! :-) and became the BEST seller phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yet, how many of us like them, really?

Maybe if I needed a less useful device...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
I work in IT, and trust me, when people ask for help with their iPhones I realize everyday how blessed I am to have an Android phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] buhohitr:
OK, chill guys. I'm not a fan of Iphone. I'm a droid fan. You guys are missing the point. I'm using "regular consumers" as my point to say LG Spectrum is not a bad phone at all. You don't need to be an auto mechanic to determine what is a good car to buy, right? and regular consumers are out number auto mechanics right? As long as all the regular functions and features are working fine then the "regular consumer" would considered the product as a good phone or not, they don't need the technical details or what else this phone can do, right? So for the LG Spectrum, everything is working as expected so they rated it's a good phone. That's all I'm saying about the LG Spectrum. Keep an open mind about this, this is not the Iphone we're talking about, but between droid LG and droid GN...We don't want a war between Android, do we?

---------- Post added at 01:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:32 PM ----------

Not true statement, depend what Droid phone you have! hehe, as stated before not all droid phones created equally.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
If I was in a grocery store parking lot, your point would be valid. I am however, on xda-developers. We are all auto mechanics ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] buhohitr:
Haha, nice, but not all of us. Most of us are trying to be an auto mechanic! LOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
Plenty of people here still have original Droid 1's and trust me, still easier than an iPhone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] buhohitr:
still missing my point. It's NOT about the iphone we're talking about here!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miketoasty:
I know we are not but it came up so I figured I would throw in my two cents.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] buhohitr:
Haha, I agreed. I don't like Iphone. They are for teenagers and really really old people LOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vulpy:
I can only second this oppinion. LG is a nightmare in the Android SW department.

Optimus 2X could have been the ultimate Gingerbread phone but they screwed it bigggg time with poor SW implementation = reboots/poweroffs and horrible support.

I still have the O2X and now with CM7 things are more stable but would avoid LG in the future.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dotnetguyaz:
For what it's worth...

I just got my Spectrum a couple days ago. Out of the box, it sucked... Slow, horrible UI and the CPU was set at 1.0 ghz. After rooting it, bumping the CPU up to 1.5 (where it should have been), removing all the bloatware and applying some kernel/mem tweaks (build.prop editing is way too much fun), I have to say that now the Spectrum is running like it SHOULD out of the box. The last thing I did to it was throw an extended battery into it (1830 mah, WTF was LG thinking?!).

Compared to a Gnex, the screen is nicer, IMHO. The gorilla glass really does make a difference, again, IMHO.

The lack of ICS will probably be solved in a matter of weeks once we get a few devs working on it. The nice thing is that now that the device has root and CWM, it's only a matter of time until we get ROMs. That throws the argument of LG support out the window (which, given what I remember about XDA, should have never been an argument in the first place. Even the crappiest of phones seem to get dev love here).

So, in a nutshell, the Spectrum CAN and WILL run as nicely as the Gnex and LG support can take a flying leap.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Nice theory. However have fun doing the dance with an LTE ril. Thunderbolt is far more mature and does not have it yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dotnetguyaz:
LOL... true... I have yet to see a good, custom ICS build on anything except what's been leaked (SGS2) in preparation for the real ICS upgrades.
[Wildfire General] dubravk0:
Hi Guys, long time no see...

Here is my second tutorial for stupid thing like resetting HTC Buzz to its original state... After googling, and looking for solution how to get rid of modded roms and recoveries, i have done this on my own (like everytime i do)...

OK Before we start, i will say that you loose root, and any modifications you made to your phone... You will have clean FROYO as you had when bought your phone. Ideal for warranty reasons...

Lets do this recovery stuff...

1. Make sure you have empty 2 gb SD card

2. Format it to FAT 32 filesystem

3. Download stock rom from HERE and transfer it to root of your SD Card

4. Put SD card with file to your phone

5. Hold VOLUME DOWN and turn your phone on holding mentioned button.

6. You will enter HBOOT mode. After second or two, HBOOT will check image files on SD card...

7. After loading file from SD card, phone will ask you to update 8 files. Confirm it with VOLUME UP button

8. Don't remove battery from phone untill everything is finished.

9. After successful update, repeat step 5 with removed SD Card, and do Delete user settings (restore).

10. After 10 minutes your phone will boot Latest stock FROYO image

This tutorial is made for people who want to restore stock image because of warranty reasons, or just tired of cooked roms...
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Point 3 is missing the link to the PC49IMG Stock ROM ZIP. FYI

Also, this does not remove S-OFF, so you might want to link this thread to your post as well. (For warranty reasons)
[Wildfire General] dubravk0:
fixed link

this guide is not about removing S-OFF it is just about recovering phone to original state
[Wildfire General] 3xeno:
Anyway, your guide, your wish.
[Wildfire General] rocker86:
But S-ON is required to get the Warranty...Because when srvice centre guys will work they can easily trace that mobile was experimented previously because HBOOT screen will tell the whole story...So its mandatory to remove S-OFF..

S-Off: Revolutionary - This will show on top in the HBOOT screen.
[Wildfire General] djoslax:
Hvala Dubravko dobar tutorial.
[Wildfire General] FreakyDR:
Does this also update hboot if I have 0.8?
[Wildfire General] cing01:
not working

7. After loading file from SD card, phone will ask you to update 8 files. Confirm it with VOLUME UP button

After loading from SD card, it says CID error. What should I do?:confused:
[Wildfire General] Zeeshan1998:
Password for stock Rom??!
[Wildfire General] CallOfHonor100:
Will this remove CWM as well??
[Wildfire General] Stone. Cold:
No root = No CWM
[Wildfire General] Hydro333D:
Stock rom ?

This mekes me remember the day 3.5 years ago since i was unpacked my wildfire for 1st time:p.What a beautiful memory ..:o
[Wildfire General] dubravk0:
Yes, this one is reverting everything back to stock
[Wildfire General] dantsprt:
Hi,if you follow this process will then be able to do a root or almost is root?Somthing else,my hboot is 6.01.1002.As i see in your pc49img there is a hboot 7225-1.01.000.nb0.Its the same or deferent hboot.Thanks
[Wildfire General] oussAC:
cool :)
[Wildfire General] gautigreek:
need help asap

i hve put the PC49IMG.zip on formatted sd card n started phone in hboot but it doesnt show as 8 updates instead it loads the contents n sits on usual hboot mode
[Wildfire General] heavy_metal_man:
Try a different card, and make sure it's not called pc49img.zip.zip
[Wildfire General] entrik:
dont know what you mean by step 9 because i didnt find any personal settings in bootloader and recovery was already locked after flashing the zip file, but it works and i have now again stock rom and that i wanted :) thx again
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sramie:
I can choose beetwen nexus or note... Which i should choose? Is non-external SD, software buttons or 5mpix camera bad? pls post your experience
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oyebto:
non external SD is bad if you have a lot of songs and videos, which i don't. Software buttons are great as i am able to configure the buttons' color and placement. 5mp camera is good enough for my needs.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] badassirocz:
Galaxy Nexus would be my first choice. I was excited the VZW version was 32gb but really I don't even use most of it as I use Google Music to stream my uploaded music. I really am liking the on screen buttons more than the physical ones. As for the camera the zero shutter lag if awesome, I don't see why people are complaining about it as the 5mp is fine. So far I love my Nexus!!!