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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bower123456:
No probs here just had one reboot using some app cant remember what

Just got to get a good case and protector from uk
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] oakvnl:
I did have a few lock ups and random reboots after ICS, but a factory rest took care of all that. No issues anymore.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aznmode:
i still havent updated my hhgregg to ICS due to some games not running correctly. one of which is dead space. Once i finish that then i will probably update and hope i dont run into any issues.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dmulligan:
Mine works just fine upgraded right after I first pulled it new out of the box. Perhaps after I charged first.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S
[HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps] tasos_styl:
guys i 've just registered in this site!i guess here i can find a greek keyboard and maps with gps without need of a wireless for free...someone help?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tazbo28:
[YOUTUBE]HWDvw-dYU2o[/YOUTUBE]

Watch the video (In case you havent seen it yet!). In it Matias Duarte explains how the Android team is beginning to try and create a cohesive and unified atmosphere with the os at the most basic levels. I for one, am absolutely thrilled to see that they are finally going to be paying attention to design and aesthetics. Usability of the platform can also benefit from this immensely.

I am also tired of people saying "ICS isnt all that special". It really doesnt matter how "special" you think it should be. What matters is that its the next iteration of the os. We all want to have our devices updated and current. So wanting this on our devices has less to do with design in this sense, and a lot more to do with jumping on the wagon of unification. I would greatly prefer beautiful apps and ease of use over anything Gingerbread has offered us so far. Now I already know that a lot of the visual benefits of ICS come mainly from theming and such, but its profoundly more exciting when the theming itself is coming from the creators of Android and not some hard-to-find source in the app market.

Lastly, I would appreciate it if you guys could give your thoughts on this. Are you excited to see the new direction the Android team along with Matias, are going in? Do you feel that they are focusing on some rather important points in the software (usability, framework, aesthetics) or not? And of course please keep the flaming and crude/rude comments to yourselves. Thanks all for listening to my rant.

~~Vince

Heres the new design guidelines site they have up.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Kevinr678:
I can't deny that I would be overly excited if ICS came to this device, haha.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tazbo28:
+1 internets I totally agree!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] millerja01a:
As nice as ICS's upgrade would be...it's not in Sammy's or AT&T interest

Sammy want's device sales and AT&T wants new/renewed contracts. By limiting ICS to 2012 devices, it provides incentive for 2010/2011 device owners to pony up for the new hotness with the new software.

Now before anyone wants to say, "WAIT WAIT, Apple..." save it. We're not talking about Apple here. Sammy is the OEM and they control what happens for the product line.

Sure you can wait for a dev to 'hopefully' get around to releasing an ICS port and yeah, it may be decent. That's your choice.

My upgrade plans begin in 2013 when ICS should have a few months in the wild and become more mature. By then all my smartphones will be eligible for upgrade discounts. I have no issue with AT&T's service as they allow me to keep my grandfathered unlimited data plan.

I'd rather have ICS when it's grown up and not so much a baby. Also, fully functional on my device too would be nice.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] durvall:
Interviewer is huge fan of Apple I can see
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Ryanscool:
The main reason i want ics is so i can impress my friends lol. It also just has features that i just like better. Im not going to die without it, but it would be nice with it. Im sorry guys who have to wait for their contract, both my parents have their upgrades up and both are fine if they get my infuse, and i get the note.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tazbo28:
Joshua Topolsky! My man! He was the senior editor at Engadget.com before leaving to start theverge.com. He actually left his Apple iPhone after the 3gs I think. He soon thereafter bought a Nexus One. Which I think he still uses to this day. And touts it every chance he gets. He does however praise apple for incitefull design and craftsmanship. I mean he is in a business (tech blogging) that is notorious for praising the behemoth company(not that this is a good thing) But trust you me when I say he isn't afraid to drop the hammer on Apple when he voices his gripes over their products. I would venture to say that most blogging sites require their employees to work on Macbooks now though. It seems to me that they would rather choose a totalitarian system like the Macs because they are less prone to buginess and viruses. And when your in an industry that thrives off of having secure data on close deadlines and less vulnerabilities, Macs (imo) just do it better. I dont use a mac, never have, I have had an Iphone 3g one time for a while. But will probably never go back. Unless I become rich or something. You do have to admire their design principles though both physically and software wise. When you compare Apple's aesthetics to Androids up till now, its just no-contest which is more cohesive and well thought out.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MikeyMike01:
So is Samsung.

Sent from my SGH-I897
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
funny thing is I used to frequent a guitar forum and a well known member was a Samsung senior cdma systems engineer and his phone was an iPhone. that was before cdma iPhones existed so he was obviously on att which is big in texas. he didn't boast about apple too much nor Samsung, basically the only things I remember that stood out was he refuted the idea that the apple products have Good audio. said the newer apple products are not as good as the older ones and suffered from clipping (overdrive basically) and boasted the galaxy s in that area. but when it came down to it he was a fan of ios for the accessories and high quality audio software (garage band for the ipad) and got an ipad 2.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] mejori:
i always have an upgrade....(4 lines=leverage) :D .. but i will not purchase another phone until ICS is available, especially because of updates. i want the note..but if no ics pre-installed..i aint buying.. i almost went to verizon for the nexus but they dont have good coverage where i travel:cool:
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MikeyMike01:
ICS should be important to everyone. Even if only for the principle of it.

Sent from my SGH-I897
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dustinhayes93:
Anyone currently working on ics?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
yeah but they haven't posted progress so its anyone's guess as to what issues they are having. remember the people working on it have real lives and are doing it as a hobby. so i don't think anyone is working on it full time.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dustinhayes93:
Yea of course. Its great to know it is being worked on. Anything is better than nothing!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] theROMinator:
LinuxBozo still around? I had some questions for him..
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
he drops in to a thread every once in a while especially the "all the devs jumped" threads. he was never that big on posting. I dunno if he answers pm's.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] theROMinator:
Yes, he does. I've spoke with him before. I was just hoping he hadn't jumped ship. :(
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
I don't think so. I know at one time he said he didn't like change.... whether he'll post work after his ics thread got trolled on I don't know.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Ryanscool:
He will probably answer in this thread lol but he is. One of the leads with the infuse cm7 team. He has been busy with other stuff though (carpantry). He is around. Ics will come someday hopefully...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tazbo28:
even though some people will drop their Infuse's this Spring, Im really hoping some devs will still try to bring over ICS for the people who want to feel out the year on devices. I wish I wasnt so disorganized, otherwise i might actually have the capacity to learn how to develop. =/
[Samsung Infuse 4G] theROMinator:
Yeah I remember seeing that post of his. It was a while back though. I see that his github is active but not for the infuse :(
[Samsung Infuse 4G] The Jack of Clubs:
he owns a galaxy nexus now...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Kevinr678:
Linux moved on? A sad day indeed. I'll miss the guy's awesome work and humor :/
[Samsung Infuse 4G] The Jack of Clubs:
thats what he told me. i dont think it would be terribly difficult for him to work on cm9/ics for the infuse but i dont think he has any real interest anymore. sadly i have yet to see any other infuse owner capable of getting ics running.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
its a sad day hearing that. [gets on eBay looking for a captivate or nexus 1 cheap]
[Samsung Infuse 4G] qkster:
The Infuse still has a better camera. :D

I still like the beautiful 4.5" display...and the main reason why I got it.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] x986123:
None of the roms ever work for me. They all have bugs that other phones just don't have. I'm waiting for ICS to save this phone LOL. :mad:
[Samsung Infuse 4G] qkster:
what bugs are you refering to? :confused:

I guess I've limited experience to smart phones but I don't recalled any signif bugs.

I had froyo on this phone. Went thru a whole bunch of other gb and leaks, they all worked fine.

The only memorable glitch for the sound issue on the first call with hellraiser ports. I don't use the ports much.

Have you tried bionix, numax, caty or zeus?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Kevinr678:
I don't recall any real bugs in my experience. I'm now interested, haha.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
there are known issuse with using a Rogers kernel. most can be fixed. other issues have to do with hellraiser mod for the ports. its pretty much limited to the first call audio bug now. other than that there may be deodexing issues. my rom which ill release after the official update wont be fully deodexed because I have too many bugs (email app doesn't deodex with one script I used, people say the pin unlock doesn't work, sometimes roms force close a process on boot...) also I feel like odex roms have more smoothness, I have always felt deodexed roms have a slight additional choppyness to the ui.

also ics wouldn't save us unless Samsung released it. which wont happen.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] LinuxBozo:
Yep, I got a heck of a deal on a brand new GSM GNex on eBay, so I jumped on it. My Infuse is still sitting on my desk, unpowered, but I don't have the time to look at ICS like I used to when I put in the massive attempt at bringing up CM7 for the Infuse. Still in process of getting this house cleaned up for sale, in the "home stretch" so to speak, but still have little odds and ends to get to. So yeah, I was hoping that some one else would take up the gauntlet.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
low light photos on the captivate have less graininess. that is if you have the right camera firmware. some roms were better than others.... also it got weird if you changed the email app on some i9000 builds. (weird but true)

ill be clear I wouldn't sell the infuse. the HDMI and Netflix is too fun and uses way less electricity than a computer or game console. also hardware accelerated video over HDMI is amazing.

however I can't type with one thumb on the infuse, its too broad. the captivate becomes a bit more intuitive to me for that reason. and I always wanted a nexus1. the trackball makes eiditing text more intuitive. that's what's important on an everyday basis. though Google has made great progress with the keyboard and alternative word selections and made a full touch ui way better than the iPhone ever was vastly improving over older android keyboards I still want directional navigation with tactile feedback. the gb text navigation is really great but its annoying when you want the cursor at the end of a line. and the nexus is still future proof. it has gotten every phone orriented android version officially since it was released and may continue to get updates in the future. 3rd party apps make up for what aosp lacks so that's what I'm looking at....

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I know people will try but I don't know if they got the skills. you'll be missed. but if its what you want then godbless. real life is more important than xda, so don't do it on our account.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] The Jack of Clubs:
if there was an ics rom, it would be the buggiest rom out there for the phone.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dman3285:
I think myself and the collective(which has several kernel devs) might try it after ics fusion is released...idk ...can't promise anything...I am no kernel dev...have to talk one of the collective kernel devs into making a kernel without the device in hand....
[Samsung Infuse 4G] qkster:
I guess it's a matter of expectation, Dani.

I use my phone mostly for calls, work contacts and calendar, some email and occasional surf. A decent camera and camcorder was a surprise. Having a decent display for Business Calendar was a must.

For day to day use, I prefer a desktop, laptop or tablet.

ROM was not an issue. As far as I could tell, Froyo worked fine. :eek:

My reason for flashing all these ROMs was just to learn about the process.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] theROMinator:
I'm curious to know, what happened to ajerman? Have you heard anything from him, lb?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
Will the ics roms for the galaxy s and hellraiser work together or are there just too many differences in ics for them to work?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dman3285:
Kernel...kernel...kernel....that is the hold up...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
I asked a simple question. No need for 14 periods. From now on when I ask a question or make a statement, stay away from it. I don't need your help. Thank You
[Samsung Infuse 4G] theROMinator:
I do not believe his comment was meant in a derogatory way. If you do not like his answer then patiently wait for another, thank you.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
No need for anyone else to get involved. I have my reasons and i will leave it at that so there is no arguing. Thanks
[Samsung Infuse 4G] The Jack of Clubs:
then make one.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dman3285:
If I could I would ....I am not a kernel dev ...never claimed to be....you make one....so I'm tired of the same questions...and having to give the same answers on an hourly basis...tired of smart asses which think this is so easy ....I'm pulling my threads ...I'm done arguing .....no wonder my blood pressure sucks....have a nice day..
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
don't pull your threads. atleast not all of them. people suck. do what you can do without pulling your hair out and let other people answer the repeat questions. it irritates me too. I've lost it before. but they'll never stop and its not isolated to this section. discourage it, explain it, yell at people if you must but never expect it to go away. as soon as one Guy learns there will be 5 new pita guys all excited about roms and overclocking with expectations.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] qkster:
+1 d.

you were doing pretty good for a while there...

:) you had a relapse today.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Kevinr678:
It's sad that people have to act like this. Deving's hard ****. I tried it myself at one point and completely lost time for it. The devs do great work, and I appreciate each and everyone of them.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MikeyMike01:
Would it kill you to act at least halfway civil?

Sent from my SGH-I897
[Samsung Infuse 4G] HeadShotz:
Best response in this thread.....
[Samsung Infuse 4G] threi_:
What's up with all the hostility in this thread? If the phone gets ICS, great, if not then too bad. Going at eachother's throats isn't going to solve anything.

If there's anything to get mad at, get mad at Samsung for damn near abandoning a device they released less than half a year ago ("buy our new dual-core phone which we will abandon in a year please!"). Get mad at AT&T/Rogers for not caring ("buy our new flagship phone on contract which we will forget about when we get our money please!"). Get mad at the the stigma android development has created around itself (i"If you don't have the absolute fastest bleeding-edge phone then it's a piece of crap and not worth keeping")

Arguing among yourselves though accomplishes nothing. And I think our phone is a great piece of hardware. Let's work with what we have. Its not fair that it gets abandoned but thats the way things go. If you wanted long term (read: proper) support you probably should have went with iPhone or even WP7 (and to be honest the stigma behind android development mentioned above is REALLY putting me off and making me consider an iPhone/WP7 phone next time).

Anyways we have some people who are still committed to continue developing on this phone, that's better than nothing. They at least deserve respect for that.

So yeah rambling aside what i am saying is yes you should be mad, but not at each other.

chill out people.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dman3285:
Yea, your right mikey, that was uncalled for... My apologies yall, just a little stressed. No excuse. Maybe ICS one day...

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Your right.... Just a brief stressed out moment. Working too much... Apologies.. :)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
I don't read every single post so i really did not know that the ics roms and hellraiser were not compatible, that's why i asked.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dustinhayes93:
We understand. I got blood pressure problems too and I just get pissed allot haha. But keep up the good work. We will get ics someday. And its good your trying to find someone to help with kernal!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Entropy512:
Not just the kernel - also a lot of the vendor-proprietary blobs had ABIs change that prevent them from working with ICS.

The Galaxy S series ICS success is a major fluke, due to having a much higher degree of commonality with the Nexus S than the Infuse does does.

Basically - if it isn't working in CM7, don't expect there to be an even remote chance of it working with ICS of any form.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Erik_T:
Do you have any happy news? :D lol...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
hey dman I was gonna call my rom " short fuse." but the name is yours if you want it. LOL.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dman3285:
Lol...guess I deserved that... :)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] robotohshs:
As much as I would like ics on the infuse.. I'm going to most likely buy a galaxy nexus
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Erik_T:
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[Samsung Infuse 4G] qkster:
i've been playing the some coworker's galaxy nexus with ics.

i just don't see the hype.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
I agree. I flashed a cm9 port to my old aria earlier tonight and it wasnt anything special.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Ltilt2:
So how do I flash ur rom Dman? Sorry! Had to do it. Lol
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
its not about hype. its about Samsung treating customers on the major us carriers like they are valued. this forced obsolescence is BS. the nexus 1 is on an old processor with low ram and not much power for opengl but it runs ics fine. its about carriers and manufacturers keeping the customers happy and up to date on firmware so the device can keep people satisfied and not cause all this waste.

dont you want to find iPhone losers and talk about all the hype for ios5 and the rumored facial recognition and projector and keyboard that never happened and show them you're facial recognition unlock and laugh at the failures of apple and the hype that surrounds them. or do you want them to laugh at you because they get updates when they are promised?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] qkster:
I see where you're coming from. The manufacturer should give their customers options.

For me though, it's not so much as what is the latest and greatest. I couldn't care less whether apple or ios has one over android or not. (although much can be said for competition and innovation)

Maybe I'm lucky I'm pretty content with a phone that can make a phone call, send a text, keep track of my schedule and contacts, surf the web and play a game or two when I'm bored.

The fun for me comes from learning about the ROM.

Some will like apple, some like pc. Some liked Win Xp, some like Win7.

It doesn't take much to pull up xda on either platform.

I played a little bit with the galaxy nexus, i really couldn't see a significant difference that would make me want to run out and get one.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tazbo28:
I think the main point is not ICS's features persay. Its the idea behind it. The concept that a community such as the Android one-should be unified. Iphones have only ever had one thing that helped their development flourish and progress well. The cohesive and unified nature of their products. The fact that all/most of their products can interconnect with eachother causes even me to say that they are brilliant. Android on the other hand is like an orphan child/children living in a world of confusion. Never really being 100% compatible with any one type of technology. Even itself.

The most important thing to remember, if your an Android user, is to be proactive about ICS and the unification that it is trying to bring. When you think about it, you HAVE to admit that it would be amazing if you could bring that awesome ROM you saw in the SGS2 forums over to your Infuse and have it simply just work, just because the OS was meant to work on any device! That to me is a dream scenario and is something that I believe any and every developer here hopes for. Anyone can develop his/her ROM for one device, and have it recognized on every device.

If Google could truly pull this off this year with present and future devices, It would bring HUGE competition to the iPhone, and match or surpass it, in everything that it tries to represent. It will unlock limitless potential with devices and device manufactures who prefer to build Android devices. I believe that Its the one thing Android devices will ever lack over the "biggest" competition-Apple. If, however, this means that devices will begin to have restrictions on which types of components they could be built with, I for one dont really think most people would care, as the internals are never seen on your devices anyhow. It would be as if Apple licensed out their internal parts for use with any 'outer case' design from other companies (HTC, Samsung, Motorolla etc).
[Samsung Infuse 4G] AbstractMind87:
Food for Thought

Aside from corporate greed, possible anger of At&t, etc, is there any particular reason why Samsung wouldn't just help the modding community out with development for ICS and future OS versions? That is, if they didn't plan to release an upgrade thru an official means or via OTA?

They know who we are, they know we have a site and know that it's likely millions of users out there that are upset at them for lack of support. It's probably just asking for them to do the right thing, but seriously, are they so full of themselves that they wont? Or can't?

It likely is the corporate greed tho. As I typed the last section it dawned upon me, what would Samsung get out of helping XDA? We aren't charging members so a partnership wouldn't get them anywhere financially. Anyone else have thoughts on that?

EDIT: As in what would it take for them to better support their already released products better than they have been?