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[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
If you're losing battery, your clock speed is the least of your worries....

top 5 causes:

1) Lousy radio signal causing increased radio power output and processing 'searching' for a network

2) Screen On

3) Wifi

4) Processor intensive task (gaming / video / music)

5) Badly behaved app preventing sleep (lots of these and many 'auto start' in the background too)

Item 1) is a real problem because the quality of radio signal can vary dramatically and can easily affect any results. You can 'think' you've only changed the ROM, but you've moved your phone 18 inches and now there's no signal.... resulting in high battery loss.

Item 5) is also really common. Watch out for it, it's a killer.

Of course CPU speed does affect battery use, just like incorrect tyre pressure on your car affects fuel consumption. But it's relatively minor compared with revving your engine, accelerating and carrying 4 passengers!
[Desire HD Android Development] ProbyWaN:
That's normal. Lc just hasn't modified each individual test version to show the right build prop I assume
[Desire HD Android Development] Demoncrasher:
Ok, thx I get it
[Desire HD Android Development] starkilling:
I get this thing. Signal has been a bit worse and the radio drains my battery.

What radios should I flash? I've never flashed a radio before, what am I looking for in a good radio?
[Desire HD Android Development] tomburnes:
Sometimes this ROM freezes up when the keyboard is out. The keyboard turns black, and then the entire phone is unresponsive. I end up doing a battery pull to "fix" it.

Is anyone else having this issue and if so, have they found a solution?

I did not wipe the phone when going between ICS 4.1 -> CyanogenMod 7.1 -> 4.2.

Edit: I can try to induce the error and record the logs once I'm back home if it helps.

The keyboard app seems sluggish compared to the stock AT&T Gingerbread with Sense, but apparently that is a problem with most ROMs.

I am a noob, but:

Is it possible to port the Sense framework (from the official ROM/the leaked Sensation XL ROM) so the camera will function properly?

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G

IceColdSandwitch v4.2.0
[Desire HD Android Development] l33ch0r:
I can totally agree with the first cause - I'm having that way too often. But I can't affirm to cause 3 wifi. For me the battery drain on wifi is pretty good. While using of course more than on standby, but in standby only around 5-15mAh. All the other causes you mentioned are definetely battery-killers.

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[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
WLAN tethering broke by my mistake and I already fixed it..

Removed es file explorer, you can download it from market

Optimized the building even more thanks to existz

We are working on implementing swype action in status bar for those evtoolbox screens. But it won't sit there for long.. Will implement back cm settings very soon... Only I fear that for now no lockscreen, customization I'm afraid with cmsetting.. I hope they'll surprise me

So just to let you know that I spend every ****ing spare second (not minute) working on this.. My wife is really gonna kill me soon... So please not so many bad feedbacks :-)

Sent from toilet :-) as I said, every second

Sent from my ICS!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] tremendouz:
was so happy to help out here :D
[Desire HD Android Development] inzaghi75:
I love this build. Why do I need Sense:D I have ICS..... lol
[Desire HD Android Development] nottrobin:
It's difficult to keep track of where the latest ICS build for DHD is.

Does this thread currently contain the most recent builds? Are LC's builds the most advanced?
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Well you can make logo for OP :-)

OK ok, will upload icons in 10mins

Sent from my ICS!!!
[Desire HD Android Development] tremendouz:
@lord: at least your wife leaves you alone on toilet :D

@inzaghi75: i never understood why people prefer/need sense when they can have great aosp

no hurry man, if you dont need them anymore due to new cmsettings coming soon its ok :),

but im also interested in the logo for OP, are there any wishes for that?
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Yes, and we all keep up with each other, its personal customization that differs. Different toolboxes and kernel modifications, stuff like that.
[Desire HD Android Development] acidspider:
What weather widget do you use? And have u changed the font?
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Here are uploaded widget icons.. so I hope someone will make them look more decent

http://dev-host.org/swkqh7zgy99m/drawable-hdpi.zip
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
Where does the calendar come from? I don't see that widget in my 4.5
[Desire HD Android Development] nicopilami:
that's what I did and the network is recognized, but it keeps beeing in 2G (roaming)

bye

Nico
[Desire HD Android Development] HC4Life:
Stock% battery 4 the last build 1.0.beta4.5?
[Desire HD Android Development] MadMax:
What Widgets are you using plus where did you get that background
[Desire HD Android Development] HTC_Phone:
-Duplicate Post-

Computer lags and post was already made by someone else.
[Desire HD Android Development] digkong:
could you please share those widgets and the wallpaper..??
[Desire HD Android Development] 1234568:
You're about to get a grilling. I'll be half nice to save you. Read the first page and the last few pages!
[Desire HD Android Development] Aaron78:
LC...please keep up the great work you do at your pace. You have an awesome rom and I love it. Running on my Inspire and with no major problems. But please don't let this interfere with your personal life, because we all need one. Looking forward to the next release when it comes.
[Desire HD Android Development] claude96:
take a break LC ,Family comes first , I'm sure every one can wait for a new build to come out .
[Desire HD Android Development] Bosnazmaj:
One issue that I have found, but I am not sure wether it is known or not, is the proximity sensor on my Inpire is not working.
[Desire HD Android Development] inzaghi75:
Okay Guys :D I changed it to 220 dpi.

Thanks to MrGarak

Weather Widget

Fancy Widget / ICS look

https://market.android.com/details?...9tLmFuZGRvZXMuZmFuY3l3aWRnZXRzLnVubG9ja2VyIl0.

Widgets Calendar/Twitter etc...

Android Pro Widget

https://market.android.com/details?...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5yZHIud2lkZ2V0cy5jb3JlIl0.

APW ICS Themes

https://market.android.com/details?...lkZ2V0cy5jb3JlLnRoZW1lLm1vZGVybi5pY3NkYXJrIl0.
[Desire HD Android Development] kaijura:
Ask twisted. I'm pretty sure his answer to you is that he is not interested in accomplishing this atrocity.
[Desire HD Android Development] cstayton:
Rather than laugh at you and do a face palm, I'm gonna be nice and tell you that this is an AOKP Rom NOT A SENSE ROM if you want a sense ROM you need to search for a ics sense rom thread (RcMix team is currently porting sense ICS)
[Desire HD Android Development] mbudden:
230/1612 has seemed to be the sweet spot for me. Any higher and it seems that battery becomes an issue.
[Desire HD Android Development] starkilling:
What benefits do you get from setting your max so high?
[Desire HD Android Development] cstayton:
need a little info from someone who is using trebuchet and from someone using apex.

I need to know the data/data/<foldername> for each of those launchers.

it will be something similar to "com.teslacoilsw.launcher" (which is nova)

Thanks.
[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Generally speaking, don't change your radio.... read post #2 for a little extra info on this subject.

I do suspect something in all current ICS ROMS isn't quite right with regard to HTC Radio, or rather it's not using HTC radio to the best advantage.

I have absolutely no evidence to support this, but I suspect during 'no signal' situations, the phone's searching like crazy and never sleeping.
[Desire HD Android Development] hopscotchjunkie:
I think I can see both the problem and the solution staring you right in the face.

//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.
[Desire HD Android Development] t0mas_:
that seems quote high from 3rd value down. try these:

<integer-array name="config_lowest_autoBrightnessLcdBacklightValuesDown">

<item>45</item>

<item>55</item>

<item>65</item>

<item>80</item>

<item>100</item>

<item>122</item>

<item>160</item>

<item>198</item>

<item>237</item>

<item>255</item>
[Desire HD Android Development] kaijura:
I'm wondering who has been getting reboots on the 4.3 tests compared to 4.2 or 4.1 releases?
[Desire HD Android Development] cyber6:
Trebuchet

Foldername from Trebuchet launcher is com.cyanogenmod.trebuchet.
[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
com.anddoes.launcher (Apex)
[Desire HD Android Development] cstayton:
is that the full name? no launcher at the end?
[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
it's correct.... (no launcher on the end)
[Desire HD Android Development] cyber6:
One photo say more than a thousand words ;) .
[Desire HD Android Development] the_maker:
:facepalm :)

Sent from Apollo 27!
[Desire HD Android Development] eliasf21:
Why don't I seem able to find the values folder?

I decompiled etc... got them sorted alphabetically, see all the raw folders and then it jumps to the xml ones...

Am I missing something?
[Desire HD Android Development] TUN_SD:
don´t extract it with zip tool, decompile with apktool, apkmanager or similar.
[Desire HD Android Development] DN41:
Flashed 4.2 some hours ago, wiped everything before.

Everything works except the home and search button , this issue wasnt there on arhd... any idea?

Thanks folks

DN41

Btw: they work in recovery
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
so which luncher to include instead of trebuchet?

Nova or Apex?
[Desire HD Android Development] neosny:
Is it possible to add Beats audio to this ROM?

...if so can someone please link me to where I can download the file?

Thanks.
[Desire HD Android Development] bangduck:
I use Apex since the beginning and i think its little bit better than Nova
[Desire HD Android Development] 2sl0w:
Which one do you like better lc?
[Desire HD Android Development] michelD:
I am very doubtful of the interest to change your radio, but who knows.

Nevertheles, this will not change the physical reality that if you are far from your base station and then with a weak signal, the phone has also to increase the RF output power in order to be correctly received by the base station, and this appends on regular intervals, even in standby, in order for the GSM network to situate your phone and be able to "convey" an incoming call to the right cell.

IMHO the easiest solution is to renice (=increase process priority) the process corresponding of the keyboard you use (try value between from -5 to -15 highest priority).
[Desire HD Android Development] max-555:
defenetive- NOVA please. :D
[Desire HD Android Development] nicopilami:
I'm using Nova for a long time, and it is very powerful !

I am not able to choose between both of them, as I only use this one.

+1

bye

Nico
[Desire HD Android Development] pecora:
I use Nova since 0.9.3 and I like it
[Desire HD Android Development] Z0R:
I tried both and should say Apex to laggy in compare with Nova.

nova rocked.

I'm for nova too.
[Desire HD Android Development] bigbuckin:
Im another loyal fan of Nova. Very very smooth. Like liquid gold... good options, and very well put together
[Desire HD Android Development] max-555:
I trace thread since beginning and you are the first with such problems.

Never have something similar.

You need make a full wipe and reflash I guess.

Use attached full wipe zip for this.
[Desire HD Android Development] max-555:
Beats audio doesn't work properly and could brake you device or cause some other troubles. If you want have look 20-25 pages back.
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Nova will be :)

you can always replace/install other one.. Trebuchet just caused too much issues..

we will see how Nova works for others and I can always revert
[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
For me, it's Apex for a couple of reasons:

1) It's free (Nova has a 'pro' version) so including it helps to tie folks into Nova

2) Nova has an irritating top margin

Both are very good launchers, Nova possibly 1-2 weeks ahead of Apex, but Apex more solid (better option I'd say).

Trebuchet's history though!
[Desire HD Android Development] max-555:
Just for info to all

I have always changed default launcher with Nova and never have problems with this. Also you can change easy all icons and find scrallbar widgets in advantages.
[Desire HD Android Development] northern247:
Sorry if this has been mentioned, but having search issues with the app. My phone.apk keeps crashing everytime a call connects, means that I can't use it at all :(

I have tried a full wipe and fresh install and get the same issue, any ideas? (On 4.2)

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[Desire HD Android Development] DN41:
Ok gonna try it...

other idea before performing the menthioned method: i restored a few apps with appextractor, shouldnt i so that?
[Desire HD Android Development] max-555:
I will suggest not restore apps with TB or appextractor. Try to reflash and then restore apps from market. I know this action will need more time but you will be sure that not your apps caused troubles for you.

Aferwards you can be also sure your cash for all apps is clean. :)
[Desire HD Android Development] -Alaa-:
Anyone Checked The Ics Camera from the market if its working on this rom without glitches?
[Desire HD Android Development] mejok:
hi

how can i remove the g-talk app?
[Desire HD Android Development] Z0R:
already checked and responded in past posts.

it doesn't work/the same as default. ;)

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2 possibilities.

1. you void it in zip before flash

2. you delete it with root explorer.
[Desire HD Android Development] kurniawan77:
Apex!
[Desire HD Android Development] silvio82:
Lord i want to remember another time that apex don't have any text issue, I've tried Nova and sometimes need a reboot to solve text distortion.

For me, for now, Apex is the best choice. ;-)

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[Desire HD Android Development] mbudden:
Fixed my battery drain issue with doing a clean install of 4.2.
[Desire HD Android Development] sam.crowther:
pro. nova has less margins around the screen.

Con Nova Takes longer to load than spec with same amount of widgets.

Con nova had pro version which people may purchase for extra effects (not worth the cash imho)

Pro. Apex is faster to load after boot or restart.

Pro apex has all its effects and features for free.

Pro apex works better with tablet ui..

Con. apex had a but of a margin around the edge of the screen. ( widgets don't go all the way to the edge) can't find any setting for this.

Been using apex for a week now instead of nova for these reasons.

sent from Starscream via Soundwave
[Desire HD Android Development] cdordon:
Tried nova, it looks funny on the home screen, everything is lower on the screen after setting it to 5x4 like trebuchet is.

Sent from my IceColdInspire
[Desire HD Android Development] t0mas_:
u sure u didnt only extract with winzip or sth alike? use apktool :)

edit:damn im slow :D
[Desire HD Android Development] hypnz:
I have nova and didn't have any issues except the text problem...is fast and solid.
[Desire HD Android Development] whiperhack:
I enable landscape, make the widget larger, then put in normal view. Apex is now 0.7 but have updates and continuous improvements.

I vote for Apex.
[Desire HD Android Development] siravarice:
I'm just curious, but how come the cameras never work on any Ice Cream sandwich ROM's? I'm surprised that Google hasn't released a fix for people making ROM's.

It's just kind of odd really, anyone know anything else?

Also, loving 4.2. Really stable, running Nova launcher, got the pro features in the free app (no idea how) and just makes me smile every time I unlock my phone.
[Desire HD Android Development] mbudden:
Same here. No issues with nova. Do have those weird text issues though. Sometimes they go away on their own, sometimes needs a hot reboot.
[Desire HD Android Development] Multisaft7:
Nova

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[Desire HD Android Development] mbudden:
I have to agree with NOVA as well.
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
just set option to kill app with Back button and when scrambel text appears you just hold Back button
[Desire HD Android Development] K Dotty:
It would be best to start a poll for everybody to vote for what launcher they want for obvious reasons

Beamed from my AOKP'd up Desirable HD
[Desire HD Android Development] silvio82:
Yes, but is better if no scramble text appears, do you agree? :-) ;-)

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[Desire HD Android Development] t0mas_:
isnt that whats happenong now? :P
[Desire HD Android Development] pnoire:
If it's not to late to vote, i give mine to... Nova :)

Edit: With Apex, i've had text problems sometimes, like with other launchers.
[Desire HD Android Development] anjini:
Why not include both and we can chose at start and set as default? Is this an option at all?
[Desire HD Android Development] L0cke:
Apex for me.
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
added poll to the thread
[Desire HD Android Development] anjini:
Where to find?
[Desire HD Android Development] l33ch0r:
At the top of the thread if you mean the poll...
[Desire HD Android Development] wbbigdave:
It's because ICS was written from the ground up. HTC haven't created / released the actual drivers for the DHD yet which means we are stuck using an old sense base camera library.

Hope that helps
[Desire HD Android Development] anjini:
Thanks, needed to refresh the browser.... got some issues with Firefox

Habe Danke gedrueckt...
[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Because, Google don't make hardware (until they buy Motorola). They make the O/S. They expect a 'reference' hardware where all their software will work.

HTC (and other manufacturers) customise some of the hardware and provide their own abstraction layers/interface.

Eventually, HTC will release ICS for Desire HD (so they say), when they do, the source code to their customisations will be available and the developers can then see the 'secrets' HTC are using.
[Desire HD Android Development] l33ch0r:
And you'll get a thanks for talking german to me :D
[Desire HD Android Development] anjini:
LOL, It's my home country, so I enjoy the opportunity...
[Desire HD Android Development] grzesiek1945:
Nova more solid.

Wysłane z mojego Desire HD za pomocą Tapatalk
[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
The trouble with asking 'the public' what they want...

is the answer they give.

Most are still asking why the camera doesn't work!.... I rest my case ;-)
[Desire HD Android Development] Shonan_:
thing is for me personally, i like how everything fits to the edge of the screen thus feeling even bigger on my home screen, with apex of nova there is a boarder effect
[Desire HD Android Development] cdordon:
Nova Home screen

VS

Trebuchet Home screen

The terbuchet seems to fit better up and down wise.

Sent from my IceColdInspire
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
but Nova has no issues with scaling icons on lower dpi
[Desire HD Android Development] siravarice:
Yes thanks :) Surprised they haven't released the drivers considering how massive the modding community is for Android. If they release it just for their phones, that could sway someone from getting say, a Samsung or a Sony.
[Desire HD Android Development] starkilling:
They don't realize that. Devs don't make these kind of decisions, people who do have no idea what it means.
[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
But they have to invest money to do that... they have to verify that the drivers work on ICS - and they tread a very fine line with supporting legacy devices....

HTC sell phones, they want you to buy a new phone. They want to 'keep you sweet' by (possibly) offering you a ROM update, but they won't do this very often.

Also, some of their key customers are Operators / Carriers and major retailers - they don't like custom Roms. They don't want their manufacturers supporting that.

We are not 'typical' users. 90% of users never flash a ROM. We don't make financial sense (pardon the pun) to them.

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That's not actually true. They know PRECISELY what it means.

HTC understand that SOME of their appeal is gained from the 'hackability' of their devices, but it's a very limited appeal. Much more money is made from selling new handsets.

ROM developers dilute the HTC brand more than they enhance it.

Every manufacturer I know is aware of these forums, the bootloader unlocking attempts, the techniques being used.... the DO watch, and they DO understand the issues..... but if a major customer (operator) insists that a handset order for 200K units ships with a locked bootloader, or carrier branding and content, they DON'T want customers flashing new roms within 20 minutes of purchase, and they'll clamp down hard on any manufacturer seen to condone it.
[Desire HD Android Development] ProbyWaN:
What's test 6
[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
Added Italian translation to RomControl by pecora

added French translation troughout the ROM - pnoire

added new battery styles

fixed CRT that broke in test4

new "EPIC" weather by AOKP team

replaced Trebuchet with Nova Launcher 1.0.2-b3

p.s. Try reading the changelog next time :-)
[Desire HD Android Development] freedom4me:
New test version which is still uploading.
[Desire HD Android Development] Morak75:
I was wondering why it was only 86Mo. I was saying to myself "Wouah, finally a big drop of weight" xD
[Desire HD Android Development] freedom4me:
LC will announce when it is ready.
[Desire HD Android Development] Morak75:
It's uploading fast, :)
[Desire HD Android Development] tHoMaS-1:
did you guys already recieved the google play update? :D
[Desire HD Android Development] iandooley:
I'm using Go Launcher but I don't get to vote for that! :rolleyes:
[Desire HD Android Development] ProbyWaN:
p.s. Try reading the changelog next time :-)

Sorry should have clarified, was wondering why it was so small, already answered though. Thanks though lol
[Desire HD Android Development] Dod6:
Hey Lord, IMHO you should add choosing mobile data connection/WiFi at start and disable auto mobile data connection. It's very unconfortable if I've not got internet package.
[Desire HD Android Development] EmptyArea:
To me it looks like you're using the quick search widget, rather than the persistent search bar.

I know there's a poll, so sorry for the ot, but Apex wins. Simply because it has more features, some of the paid "prime" nova features like gestures are too run of the mill and everyday to not be free. However both launchers do a great job.
[Desire HD Android Development] bangduck:
Anyone have an idea for working mms? Apn's are correct. I read the mms.apk from 4.0 is working but it dont worked for me
[Desire HD Android Development] TheBrilliantMistake:
No worries, I expect the file size was because it was still uploading!

I think Nova's a mistake... but c'est la vie. ;-)

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+1

This should never be 'assumed'. Some carriers even charge a crazy 'daily' rate even if you only used 1 byte! Nasty Nasty Nasty
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
4.3.test6.AOKP

Added Italian translation to RomControl by pecora

added French translation troughout the ROM - pnoire

added new battery styles

fixed CRT that broke in test4

new "EPIC" weather by AOKP team

replaced Trebuchet with Nova Launcher 1.0.2-b3
[Desire HD Android Development] Dod6:
+1 from me, Apex is better imo.

I don't like pull down my bottom cover all time when I flash rom cuz I don't need any package. WiFi is enough for me.