yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] louforgiveno:
Also another quick bit of info.....The paypal link on the devs page has only been posted less than 1 month, prior to that the dev REFUSED donations. For the majority of the rom's life (90%)...there was no donate link......Meanwhile the guy in the closed thread that Exclaimed disbelief if the "size" of the donate banner....Has a paypal Donate in his signature....LOL....Pot calling the Kettle

How many Dev's outright refuse donations ? Maybe it's foolish not to collect donations, cause at some point you will be made to regret ever helping the community...
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Lol and louforgiveno is?

This is my xda user name xbox live user name ps3 name and pR0n website user name... Sorry if it isn't original enough for you
[HTC EVO 3D] #Winning#:
I'm not trying to get into a flame war with anyone, I should have included that in my first post. I was just shocked when I got on yesterday to see the posts that he made in the dev section.

While I understand that the dev was going through some hardships in his life, the way he handled the situation probably didn't help his case here.
[HTC EVO 3D] louforgiveno:
It was when I first started using the name..... Les Stroud pwns the

real

Bear anyway !
[HTC EVO 3D] aaronagis:
from my point of view, it looks to me like all these goons from the SGS2 forum were a bit out of line, trying to feed their egos... did the DEV ACTUALLY advertise the updater script in his ROM? Did he actually claim in some track-able text that it updated busybox and superuser? Not that I can see... Other devs put **** in their roms that isint fully working. Ive seen it done many times, to help with future updates... I'm not taking sides, but I'm also not discrediting anyone here... All I know is that after looking at the cleaned up thread, I see a bunch of Devs, and a mod, and users, basically a bunch of immature people FROM THE SAME FORUM, flaming and insulting, etc, etc.... and I don't care if your right or wrong, but if you come to this forum and start posting things like "get off the internet and repeated name-calling etc bashing obscene stuff, The user should be banned. but for somereason I see a bunch of offending posts from SGS2 users in a "cleaned-up" thread, and its closed down by the MOD from the same forum, who appears to work together with the flamers... WTF?
[HTC EVO 3D] louforgiveno:
You are 100% correct, my point was that when real life and xda meet, it can get ugly.

---------- Post added at 12:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:54 AM ----------

Yeah, who mods the mods....I was in a thread the other day and a user made a post with a derogatory term in it, a few users expressed their offense to the term....Mod comes in- "cleans" thread....leaves original derogatory post, but cleans away the protest to it. MOD FAIL Big TIME
[HTC EVO 3D] :
How could he not get mad? This person named Hacre shows up, and does nothing, but insult AndroidOsX. He called him "retarded", and a bunch of other foul things. Now he just called someone an idiot in one of the threads located here in development. This guy is nothing, but an internet bully. Now AndroidOsX could have handled the situation better, but if what said is true. It will be kind of hard with some online gangster slamming you. Not everyone is the same.

If Hacre is trying to be helpful. The way he does it makes him look like a complete ass. This person is nothing, but rude, and that's what shocked me out of all of this. Despite AndroidOsX feigning an updater script, Hacre should be brought to the spotlight.
[HTC EVO 3D] soldier6981a:
yea i seen that too they are all from villianrom..it even says so in there profile..
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Not to derail the useless thread but les stroud is a bigger ***** than anyone ever... Dual survivor owns les and bear anyday....

But at lease bear grylls drinks his own piss like a BOSS
[HTC EVO 3D] str8upx:
Everyone that participated in flame war deserves to get banned. Maybe then this type of BS wont continue in the future. Whats the point of rules if no one follows them? and why have mods if they only cherry-pick which rules they enforce?

Iron fist my A$$.
[HTC EVO 3D] raptoro07:
argggggghhh. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] :
That person who ripped AndroidOsX insulted another person. I don't even want to look at his recent posts. Take a look here. Why hasn't he been banned because of his belittling behavior?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1447096
[HTC EVO 3D] tyler.durden:
Didn't the Olympus dev openly try to trash Virus' work in his 'Titan HD' thread? Yeah, I remember reading that a little while back... Sounds like he got what he deserved
[HTC EVO 3D] aaronagis:
WORD! ...

That was just rediculous, and we lose yet another popular project in our dev section...
[HTC EVO 3D] louforgiveno:
+1

Wow, yeah called him a retard etc, I made the mistake, while trying to be funny, of making reference to kangers & gypsies. THIS WAS WRONG OF ME !

2 users posted there objection to it...we took the conversation to PM's...and while I didn't find their argument valid, I realized that it's not whether I can understand someone objecting, But it's whether someone objects PERIOD. I won't make that reference again, I come here to learn about my phone and get the software to make it run the way I like, not as a popularity contest and not to try and seem like a bad ass. On the other hand I realize this place is some people's everything....and I think that's where some of this cross-over hating comes from, theAndroidosX was encrouching their turf :eek:
[HTC EVO 3D] Terepin:
It took you over an year to notice that place filled with n00bs with their never ending stupid questions and pathetic lackeys that supports them isn't best place for devs?

Wow, you're fast!
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
Because some mods didn't get the "Iron Fist" memo. Bunch of *******. Yeah, I wrote it. Delete one of my posts again for calling them out.

Edit: Sorry about that. I let my frustrations get the better of me. It's just that I get fed up when we get punished for jumping on someone when they try to pick a fight with a member. Really gets to me.
[HTC EVO 3D] soldier6981a:
and that thread is now closed too
[HTC EVO 3D] anthrofear:
Seems like all im hearing about these days is the blame game and bicker bicker. La di ****in da, Go Bills.
[HTC EVO 3D] louforgiveno:
by another mod from SGS.....did mods all get sammys for christmas ?? why all the sudden mod presence (and most seem to be SGSII guys)...I mean crap has been floating for a while and now suddenly we get daily closures ?
[HTC EVO 3D] metamasterplay:
Yeah I though I saw that name somewhere. What kills XDA is not devs or noobs, it's simply people who totally forgot that this not their backyard to **** all over on it. It a community place and common social etiquette applies here.

The rule should be simple: You insult, you get banned. And being a Recognized Developer should not be taken into consideration. Heck everybody is a recognized dev these days...
[HTC EVO 3D] kratos313:
I think that the whole thing was blown out of context. Since my hero days I've never seen a updater script actually do anything but show info or a picture even when I did a rom on the Og EVO 4g I just had the created by and special thanks message to everyone that helped me out. Common sense says that you should run your own checks before you flash just like making a nand backup of your rom before you flash anything new. Yes osX got mad and handled it the wrong way but his anger was justified. Someone from another forum comes over and starts alot of mess about a script that he probably never even flashed or used the rom for that matter and gets his thread closed because of it. Just doesn't make sense why should people devs or not coming into a forum able to start crap and get away with it?

They shouldn't but they do and have done it twice noless its wrong and it's only going to push people away from the site.

To be honest the moderators need to look into why these people are even making comments on roms that they honestly and seriously can't even use unless there is some underhanded shady business going on behind the scenes.

Sent from my EVO Titan 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] novanosis85:
Well then remove all roms that falsely show 3g in 1x areas!!!! Idiots!
[HTC EVO 3D] felacio:
How has this "Hacre" guy not been reprimanded yet? I mean, just look at some of his latest posts, even before the whole TITAN debacle: http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=7035847

almost all of them are just dickheaded in nature, arrogant and belittling. aren't we... you know, not suppose to be doing that to each other?
[HTC EVO 3D] patrao_n:
he has more than a few mods as friends. ya I don't think anything will happen to him. those mods will just back him.
[HTC EVO 3D] KB112:
Well that's Hella weak.
[HTC EVO 3D] patrao_n:
umm hella weak?
[HTC EVO 3D] soldier6981a:
yea nothing will happen to him all he doing is going around getting threads shut down, and being offensive to others
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
It means that the excuse given cannot and should not exempt him from the rules that operate the XDA community.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jraw23:
I joined this community shortly after I bought my Evo 3D. Having spent a lot of time at precentral I was expecting this site to be somewhat similar in nature, however, it almost reminds me of high school. The amount of drama that is provided by so many immature members is unbelievable. I know I will probably be flamed for this because of my post count, but please go ahead as it will just help to prove my point.

What happened between this developer and the mods is cause and effect. Yes, his rom contained a script that could potentially be viewed as misleading, but the way the moderators and other users from a completely different subforum attacked him in a very public way created, in part, what followed. I am not condoning the threads he made afterwards, which I did read, but this whole thing started with how the situation was handled.

Hopefully this whole situation can be taken as a learning experience. This forum has a lot of very good, very intelligent members. It is just unfortunate that a few rogue cowboys have to ruin everyone's fun.
[HTC EVO 3D] patrao_n:
lol. ya I know. I just thought he meant what I said was weak.
[HTC EVO 3D] PanaFonic:
Hmmm i have always noticed that the busybox and everything failed
[HTC EVO 3D] babyfacedkayos:
Actually the mods here do really just suck that bad.... But rootz just sucks generally. The boards are dead. No activity, even in popular roms from popular devs
[HTC EVO 3D] KB112:
Lol, sorry buddy. Yeah, I was just saying it sucks that other guy can get away with that.
[HTC EVO 3D] babyfacedkayos:
Oops, duplicate.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah the mods suck....they banned a guy that ran his mouth and was unwilling to even discuss the issue at hand to begin with, with them.

Get real bud. They did what had to be done in the end. Wasn't the mods fault he went on a rage there.
[HTC EVO 3D] trewardtx:
Honestly mods if you want to be technical about your rules and compliance then you guys need to evaluate each ROM made then.....because there are plenty of ROM's out there that clearly violate your so called rules that you have set....now I'm not excusing his actions but if you want to uphold your rules do it with EVERYONE....no matter who it is....there shouldn't be any favorites period....there are no Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan devs that get passes because of status....let's just all play fair and those sideline hecklers need to be removed because they aren't helping the cause at all.....Just another decent dev gone from an already hurting device forum.....just glad Chad at least stayed....SMH
[HTC EVO 3D] patrao_n:
cool cool man. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
Not getting angry at you, but I'm sick of that line. Every time something like this pops off, we always say that. How about we stop learning from the same ferris wheel drama. How about we start DOING!
[HTC EVO 3D] kratos313:
There needs to be a moderator for the moderators someone to keep them in check. Cause there are some serious problems with there actions.

Sent from my EVO Titan 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] sprkat85:
hmm

the script was a joke from the get go the only thing that would make someone feel mislead would be a noob. Also don't all devs have disclaimers about how this could brick your phone if you flash said rom? I never felt miss lead and im sure everyone that ran or is still running the rom feels the rom is a rockin with no flaws
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Which roms violate rules?

Keep in mind roms and kernels are different things man.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Maybe but I will say you can't fault pulsar for anything he's done at all. Like I said before he's one of the most level headed and fair mod here.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Whatever happened to AndroidOsX, fine. Honestly his last outburst was something else. Here's the thing, why hasn't Hacre been dealt with? He still posted after that mess so he must not have been banned.
[HTC EVO 3D] sprkat85:
Idk maybe its a hate the american dev thing going on cause all I see causeing an uproar are folks from the uk but I don't want to piss on anyone's parade

Sent from my xploding phone
[HTC EVO 3D] str8upx:
Then why was osx's the only account disabled? Kinda proves otherwise.
[HTC EVO 3D] zelendel:
Look guys I know you are all upset about this but bottom line is that what was being done was wrong. Misleading people by stating that tests were done when they weren't is not what a real developer does. A real developer would never have put something into the script that isn't being done.

Trust in a developer is HUGE. If you can't trust the guy to be honest then how can you trust a rom he releases. Simple you can't. Think about it. A developer could install a keylogger and have it phone home when the screen is off and you would never know it was there or that it was happening.

Now as for the rules. We do our best to make sure everyone follows the rules. Not an easy job with over 4 million members. Want to help with that then use the report feature.

Remember XDA is about real development. Not winzipping a rom together with no real development put into it. As of late it seems alot of people come here just for roms and ill be the first to say that is the wrong reason. This site is to help you learn to do things on your own and teach you things that you didn't know before.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I'll be sure to report Hacre.

http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2613342

Start reporting people.

He violated like 3 or 4 different rules.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jraw23:
The only interaction I have ever seen with him is how he handled the closing of the thread in question. I know I am a new user, but in my opinion, it was extremely unprofessional how he publicly criticized the developer in his own thread. Script issue aside, he spent a lot of time, for free, making a rom that a lot of users liked. Pulsar represents not only his own reputation, but that of XDA. To publicly bash a user because of a disagreement and say that the rom he created is essentially trash is disgraceful. It is a shame that a small disagreement had to turn into such a large flame war. I am not calling you out, and I mean no ill intentions with my remarks. It is just my opinion.
[HTC EVO 3D] SoraX64:
I would hate to be an XDA Mod. Lots of respect to those that can somehow handle all of this crap.
[HTC EVO 3D] zelendel:
Lmao OK guys looks like I need to set thing in order.

First understand that flaming new users for not doing the needed research before asking questions or posting a new thread is nothing new. Think it is bad now? Should have seen it before most people knew what a smartphone was.

As a development site we are not here to babysit or walk people through the basics. While not really cool it is understandable. People have spent hours upon days upon weeks getting all the info. All that is asked is that people spend a few hours researching their issue before asking a question or posting a new thread. By not doing so you show disrespect to everyone that has helped make this site what it is today. The leader is mobile development across most platforms.

Now alot of you are mad at Pulser for calling the guy out in his thread. Personally I have no issue with this. It is our job to make sure you have as much info as you need to make an informed choice in the rom or dev mentor that you choice. I say mentor as if your not learning anything from flashing a rom and the mods for the rom then you should just stay on stock. Calling a someone out in public makes them either admite to it and now you know they are a winzip dev or have them fix it and say they are sorry for misleading you.

Now of you have a prob with people being rude. Think about why people have gotten rude. While being rude is never cool it is sometimes the only way to get the point across.

Take the XDA noob video. While some would see it as being rude. It has a point. Maybe some should watch it again.
[HTC EVO 3D] louforgiveno:
And I thought the mods were here to keep the thread clean and to promote the best out of its devs...
[HTC EVO 3D] zelendel:
Exactly. And by calling out people that claim to be developers and are not.

I think people have gotten the idea of what a developer is wrong. Someone that puts together a rom is not a developer. There is alot more to it. Taking a rom and rooting it, adding a fancy update script and theming it is not.developing anything.

No real developer will tell you that a script is doing something that it isn't. Plain and simple.

Now while I normally don't feel the need to justify the rules or the way they are enforced. I have made my point clear.

Remember that XDA is a developers forum. Not a rom support site. Not a user support site.
[HTC EVO 3D] patrao_n:
this guy hacre definately presents himself as a douche among douche's. just read his op. xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179814
[HTC EVO 3D] louforgiveno:
You obviously have no clue about what the rom actually offered...Remember, READ !
[HTC EVO 3D] Helton566:
Let me first say I agree to disagree.

I don't think they should have been put in but who cares? As long as it didn't install something harmful I don't care. It was for looks. HTC Sense is for looks right? You don't need it to make the phone work but its eye candy. I personally don't think there is a difference in the two examples I gave.

I hate to see the guy get booted because of some stupid script. Tell him to prove it does something or remove it. Don't belittle the guy in his thread and expect him not to get mad and respond out of embarrassment. I just think it was handled the wrong way. Just my 2 cents.
[HTC EVO 3D] kratos313:
Reports should only count if the person can use said mod or rom if they can't it should be considered spam. If the users of the software (roms & mods) do not have the device that the software is for then why should they have any say?

These guys come over from a samsung forum with SGS2 devices even the moderator has one from what I'm seeing and now they have something to say about the roms script. WTF it sounds more to me like these guys came over because osX's rom was better than there's or someone else's that there cool with and they wanted to get rid of the competition.

Sent from my EVO Titan 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] tuscani1821:
He lu kanged real developers ****. And managed to **** it all up. My diarrhea could make a less ****ty rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] thizzlemania91:
Get some louforgiveno. This hace mod guy is wrong for posting rediculous comments on ppls thread. It seems his using his mod status as a way to insult every dev out.

Disrespecting ones thread with nonsense is not tolerated in xda why should anyone tolerate this guy. Ha
[HTC EVO 3D] Jraw23:
comments like these here are the problem with this forum. This form of verbal diarrhea is the root cause of many of the issues. Thank you for your intelligent input with the issue at hand, but next time save us your pathetic attempt of a diatribe.
[HTC EVO 3D] str8upx:
The only diarrhea around here is that in which is pouring from your mouth.

Hacre is a dev not a mod.

http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2613342
[HTC EVO 3D] thizzlemania91:
Yea my bad im into the laker vs mavs game LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] vin255764:
It is fair.

Lets write all king of stuff in updater lol

Because after "fake" features,flashers go to different ROM and keep asking.how come you dont have this and that.

For example on OG EVO not possible to have beats.And one guy made a fake beats,posted in the op "fully functional beats"

And guess what happened.People kept asking to fix beats beacause "it works" on other ROM.

Not many people can read logcats,they just beleave what they see or hear.

Im my case Im so tired,that had to lock my thread lol (check link OG EVO in my signature)

Mod did a right thing,its a healthy criticism.And OP reaction was not too professional,He started bunchof threads with f....

All he had to do is correct silly updater-script
[HTC EVO 3D] Jraw23:
First, just wanted to let you know I almost broke my laptop while reading your post. That damn bug in your signature almost cost me a couple hundred bucks. haha.

Back to the point, I understand your sentiment and I agree completely that the developers script can be misleading. From our point of view though these moderators came in with their "gang" guns a flaming.

I honestly feel like both sides are to blame, and in the end the users who actually liked the rom itself are the ones who are hurt. I know the main function of this site is development, but without end users to use the developers product what is the point.

The creator of this ROM and the moderators are each at fault, in my opinion, for their parts in creating this situation. I just wish everything would have been handled better, because if it did then threads like these would not be neccessary.

In conclusion,

your signature is awesome.

Jon
[HTC EVO 3D] siraloz:
Resorting to rudeness, even by a forum moderator, to get one's point across is blatantly against the "Member Conduct" section of the xda forum rules. I am assuming that we all are members, regardless of our status as mods, devs, noobs, or what have you, and "all members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules." If there's another constitution for mods and devs, I apologize for my ignorance (please don't euthanize me for my stupidity).

Seriousy, how does a foul-mouthed, disrespectful member get to stick around enjoying a Recognized Developer status when clearly the XDA Recognized Developer Program emphasizes mature and respectful manner in such developers?

The system definitely seems to be broken.

+1
[HTC EVO 3D] vin255764:
ROM maker overreacted.It happens mostly when you sleep 5 hours and cook 19 hours a day every day.I think thats exactly what happened.He need a vacation for sure.

I've been there too lol
[HTC EVO 3D] the_scotsman:
And with that, this thread is closed.

If only you mod bashers knew the effort that we go through behind the scenes to keep the idiots at bay. This thread is another prime example :rolleyes:
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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] rosshalz:
use the market!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] kkkhattak:
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[LG Optimus 3D] Marcovecchio:
With all the lighter custom ROMs we have today, the default huge /system partition we have in the O3D is a waste of space. Same with the /data partition. For those who don´t know, both /system and /data (and other smaller ones) are actual internal SD Card space!

That´s why we have LG specs saying we have 8GB of internal flash storage, when in fact we have just 5.5GB available.

So my question is: is there a (safe) way to wipe all internal SD partitions and then recreate them with more appropriate sizes, earning back all the wasted space?

Thanks a lot!
[LG Optimus 3D] ThiaiZ:
Have you read about data2ext? I think it would be a very good solution to us.