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[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
As most of you would know, we have learned quite a bit about Defy bootloader during the last week.

We always thought that Motorola don't have a method to unlock production defys (defys shipped to end users). Well we have sufficient information now to prove that Motorola have a method, and that it converts production defys to engineering defys (Phones used by Motorola engineers to make ROMs and other stuff)

This is actually better than a simple unlocked boot-loader because eng defys have unlimited applications (because we have direct access to MOBO/CPU) like overclocking gpu, installing other OS like Ubuntu, Debian, WP7 etc. into NAND and a lot more.

So the problem here is that the tools required for ENG switch is only available to Motorola employees. Till now we have no further information on it. The tools are TI OMAP BOARD CONFIGURATION TOOL and a 16MB .bin file. Other significance of this method is that it might also unlock other phones with OMAP(3xxx/xxxx?) board. Also this method seems to be very stable.

So the good news is that this software is available for most Motorola repair centers. That means it would be easier to get a leak. Of course the highly paid Motorola engineers with 6digit paycheck wont leak it but we should consider low level repair executives (they already leak sbfs and RSDlite).

So my suggestion is we start a bounty thread in XDA to tempt them.

If you have a solution and if you are concerned about anonymity, please PM me.

PS : There are lots of bounty threads in xda.
[Defy Android Development] the|gamer:
Hi,

Setting a Bounty would be cool, but is legal ?

Cause it is not like "I pay you a lot of money if you steal this software for me"
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
hmm. It depend's on which country you are from.
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
I'm quite on it. Minimum/maximum fee could be set (like US$2 min and 20 bucks max, or anything like this). And someone with access to Motorola's employees (I think the user racca works on a Moto distributor, but I'm not sure of it, I think he mentioned it in some thread a few months ago) could rush and "bribe" them. If people could be a bit more clear about which kind of employees should have access to this software, I could try and convince one of them (you know, people here in Brazil aren't that much into honesty, but are a lot into money) about heading us a leak from TI's software. I'll have to take my phone to MOTOAssist soon ("menu" and "back" keys' backlights are weaker than normal), so I'd have at least an actual reason to talk to an assist technician (assuming they have access to the board configuration tool).

Yet, since I'm no hacker (yet, I'm planning on getting a Nook Color - which community here in XDA seems to provide all you need to start your own ROM - and starting messing around with it) nor coder (know only a little about C programming), I would not try and mess around with TI's software, but only upload it somewhere and give you guys a link for it.
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
We could even promote it with ads. The best way would be to set up our on website, maybe in Brazil(or with some webhost who would like to host this) where you could bribe your way out and then promote it with ads. There is a remote chance that XDA might not approve a bounty thread here (of illegal implications), but we could publish the website here and all other major forums (chinese forums as well).
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
Dunno, since it's illegal, it may not be the best option to promote it. Obviously, it's still not immoral, but we all know that morality and law often do not converge, so it may be better to go rogue, talking in private with motoassist technicians and stuff like that, because, even if we're just fighting for our rights, we're still using non-legal ways, and risking to be sued for it.
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
I don't think promoting a website is illegal. What's illegal is hosting an illegal one.
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
Promoting a website who promises cash for employees of a corporation who leak internal software used by that corp. might be considered illegal in most places. Fortunately (or not, I'll explain why), we have jurisprudence to embase of: in september 1st, last year, a judge here in Brazil condemned Moto to update a customer's Dext/CLIQ to Android 2.1 (Moto did not provide this update here in Brazil, even though it did in many countries) without voiding the warranty.

I know it's just one case, in just one country, and updating an android version is way different than providing unlocked bootloaders (or the tools for users to do so). And, yes, I agree with placing a bounty at the tool. Yet, if we get caught, Moto can still argue that we had other ways to pursue our rights, and we should have used the justice system to do so, if we believed we were that right. Yet, they're a multimillion-worthy company (even bigger after being purchased by Google), and we're a bunch of broke users, at most devs making a couple thousand dollars, and would have little chance against their lawyers. Last, but not least, employers who help us may get caught and fired because of us, and I sincerely want nobody (ok, maybe a few of the highest executives) to get fired just for me to get an unlocked BL.

So, my point is: let's make this a stealth action. Get a reason for your phone to be taken to Motoassist (no intentional bricking, please! You must flash an official SBF before taking it there! - at least if your phone is still under warranty), get to talk with one of their technicians, and mention - indifferently - that some guys are giving alway big money for any Moto employee who leaks that TI OMAP software. Something like this: "hey, did you hear that crazy devs at this dev forum are paying the first moto technician to hand them some sort of software? Something OMAP-related, I don't know for sure. All I know is that the reward is some nice cash."

When the word spread, we could have an unlocked bootloader within a month.

Yet, we got a single issue to deal: how to ensure the person who gives us the SW first will actually receive the cash? I've seen a few bounties here before, but them all were settled by XDA devs (so the bounty keeper could just donate the sum to that dev), never saw something like paying "outsiders".
[Defy Android Development] swapnil360:
One of my friends (Defy+ user) has a contact with a Motorola service guy. He says that that guy knows everything about Motorola software and he's with us because he himself uses custom ROMs and controls an entire service center. He's ready to take my device under warranty though it's rooted along every single hack/MOD for Defy installed :-P

Will try contacting him

And let's post this in the forums of all other locked Motorola devices with OMAP 3xxx chips.
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
Talk with this guy. If he has access to a copy of TI's SW, and handle it to us, I'm pretty sure we could him get a nice reward. Not as high as if putting a bounty, but definitely enough to make the effort worth it.

I mean, supposing that this is actually gonna help unlock EVERY OMAP 3 (and possibly all OMAP-based phones) out there, and that this way the process is reversible (at least to me, it looks like no eFuse is being blown there, you know, assistance technicians can't just blow eFuses like that - taking the phone to the assistance under warranty shouldn't void it, and that's what a blown eFuse would do), loads of people would help. Imagine a single dollar from every OMAP 3 XDA user (take a look here for an INCOMPLETE list of OMAP 3 devices with ~30 ANDROID ONLY phones/tablets), that would make a lot of money.
[Defy Android Development] hailmary:
this is good....and i think it will be best to not mention the location,identities,or any hint of similarities of the perosn source once you guys get contacts & manifests from that guy(source). so as not to compromise his profession.

he could be fired & worse can be sued by leaking private details.

best discuss it in private,after getting in touch w/ him...

just a tought of CAUTION...;)
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
Yeah we would ensure him that.
[Defy Android Development] hemil:
I'll help u out....juzz tell me what to get from moto officials
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
do u know motorola mobility service center in mbai?

we only hav private shops with motos certificate...

i dont think they can help...

all they say is we'll send it to factory(?)
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
@hemil Please pm me.
[Defy Android Development] swapnil360:
Hey buddy... just wait for my call today...
[Defy Android Development] rishi2100:
isn't it illegal to post copyrighted stuff and also its against forum rules..

i mean that if someone gets his hand on that super tool, then how can he shares it with us???
[Defy Android Development] joydeep1985:
huh !! think about moto when they actually ditch us with promises ? whats wrong if what we are screaming for last 1 year . and didnt get any updates ? huh think about tht before u speak about illegal stuffs . if moto is doing all sought of ways to keep us away from our rights . what we do undercover to get us right can no way be questioned when we have told thousands of times that we need updates .

more over the authority can question us only and only when they are themselves self guilt free .... but instead they are pretending to be saint sitting behind the curtains and doing all sought of locking stuff to deprive us of our rights
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
@jhonsmithx Let's not get ahead of ourselves. First of all lets concentrate on getting the source. Also I urge users to use a bit of social engineering to do that(using fb/g ). We'll put together a plan according to the situation after that. Also note that this is a pretty long shot. We might not get a source after all.

I could think of atleast 10 ways to share anonymously. Though I wont be posting them here.
[Defy Android Development] zed_fauji:
can help in getting software [ti omap]

see , i ve my brother in law in Motorola repair center and so i just need to know which software will we need and from where in a repair center . i ll talk with him and try to convince him . but first of all tell me exactly what we need? :):):)
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
First of all, as far as I know Indian Motorola Repair center don't have the required tools. However I have an Idea as to where the tools are. It's probably distributed through https://compass.motorola.com/ . But only people with Motorola membership can access this. So please ask your bil if he/his boss have access to this site. If yes ask him to look for a tool called TI OMAP BOARD CONFIGURATION TOOL in the site. For any further details pm me.
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
That's my point. And, considering Moto's urge to destroy any tiny bit of freedom their users pursue, they'd probably sue anyone who posts in this thread, and even everyone talking about unlocking bootloaders overall. As I said, we must go stealth in this operation.

That's kind of what I think of it. Once we've got one (or a few, which I think is safer) source, we can use this as raw material to get a more elaborate plan. But, as a draft, I think it's good enough.

Two mistakes don't make a right. As I said before, we're a bunch of broken guys, earning a few thousand bucks per month at most, while they are a company with enough money to hire any lawyer and buy any corrupted court in this world. They have but one reason to exist: profit. And unlocked bootloaders, along with honest customer care, are way less profitable than obsolete phones that make people buy new ones. If you want to defeat an enemy tougher than you, is easier to think what would make it to give you the victory and chase it, than directly confronting a force you know you can't beat. And, the way things are, we can't beat them. So, let's get as low as them, and take things from their own staff, it's better than trying to confront them openly.
[Defy Android Development] johnsmithx:
How? In totally the same way as hundreds of new software get leaked/cracked and then shared among people every single day.

It's not about getting ahead of ourselves. People need to be aware of what they may be going to sign up for

before

they actually sign up.

If the source will be willing to provide the software for free then it would be much easier. But if he will be all about money then there are many possible issues and serious consequences and people need to know about that up and foremost. People are enthusiastic and willing but you surely don't want to just let them get burnt.

So if I see a possible problem I say it right away instead of waiting for some imaginary "right time". There is no such a thing as "right time" because this is not organized effort despite it may seem like it was. People are acting on their own, you can't prevent that. For all we can know there may be some negotiation talks going on somewhere on the planet right now. The least we could do is to make people realize it may not be such a simple and straightforward "fun" as it may seem. I personally don't believe it will be such a big deal, but really better safe than sorry. It would be very unfortunate if someone hastily started something and the subsequent events caught him off guard. They should go this route only if they are fully aware of everything and still are willing to take the risk, otherwise they simply should stay aside.
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
I think I've made my point, I'll absent of the discussion for now. If you guys need some cash donated, I'll help with it, but I'm not taking part on this if there are no coordinated actions. When you guys get a target (or ask my help to find one), have a coherent set of actions to take, and find someone trustworthy to keep the money while we don't get the TI software, then we'll talk. But decentralized and uncoordinated actions will eventually lead to someone doing something stupid, and, since that might f* us all, I'm definitely not taking part on it. Feel free to PM me if you need help (I know a guy who knows some guys, and maybe can help - unfortunately, not before saturday), but I'm not involved enough to coordinate this (and, no, that wasn't my intention at all), and think we should get someone who's willing to do so, than we could proceed. See ya.
[Defy Android Development] gadgetcraze:
All this is a joke. Right?

I mean bounty? Are you guys serious?
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
It's not a joke. It's just a suggestion.
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
Bump to top
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
A bit of news today. After a lot of recon I have at last managed to get the phone numbers/address of Official Moto Service centres in India. They are rare but still they are there. All those addresses starts with "Motorola Services". If you have bought your defy from flipkart.com try calling up the flipkart cc and ask for info on official moto service centres (not auth service centres).

I even managed to get a couple of mobile numbers. As today is sunday, I'l call them up tomorrow. If everything goes well, we'll drop the forum discussions and switch to irc on 30th. You know the drill.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] somedude67:
I am having a problem with the space not being responsive when using the phone in landscape mode it is fine in portrait. i have tried calibrating and also with different software and its always the same the space bar just refuses to respond 80% of the time. is there anyway of fixing this as i like the rom as its lightning quick but have had to revert to stock as this is a major issue for me. I have googled but found nothing of interest. I have tried the 2 latest stable builds and the latest rc and its the same in all builds. is there a version of cynogen where this iosnt an issue?
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WebbyHRT:
Flip the phone to the right instead of the left.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] somedude67:
thats not how i use the phone im not left handed and need the buttons on the right so using the phone upside down isnt really a fix. is this prevalent in all versions?
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WebbyHRT:
The keyboard stay the same, no matter which way the phone is held. The only difference is the camera and volume buttons are on the bottom.

There are already heaps of threads/questions about this.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] somedude67:
the buttons would then be on the left and not the right ie the screen would have to be upside down for the keyboard to respond correctly Im to use to flipping the screen the way i do and also used to the buttons being on the right. is there no fix for this?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tsew03:
Does anyone have or know the file to download in order to downgrade the inc 2 before i root it?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] sjpritch25:
You need to read the following

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1268030
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] phreshjoker:
What are the best apps for underclocking and the best settings just for battery saving sake. I don't care bout performance. Thanks in advanced
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] funziebear:
no one can really answer that as for every phone acts different people use it differently ur best bet is to underclock a little at a time and try it out

Sent from my SGH-T989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] phreshjoker:
What app should I use? I'm using faux kernel
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] funziebear:
i use fauxclock

Sent from my SGH-T989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] phewizzo:
System Tuner works the best for me and their latest update is great.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] darkamikaze:
Ditto

1.5 GHz Max

192 min

UV of 825 mv to 625mhz

Sent from my SGH-T989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] phreshjoker:
Awesome thanks y'all!!! This is awesome. And love the replys
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] phreshjoker:
Where shall I undervolt ib system tuner
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] GreggoryD502:
I believe system tuner has a tab labeled voltages, you can go in and lower them. Just a word of caution tho, take it easy when you undervolt, doing so to much can cause serious issues. Dont set the settings to stick on boot until your sure your phone can handle it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] got556:
I need a longer charging cord. The factory cords they send with these tabs are wayyyyy too short. 5 feet or so would be perfect. Any recommendations?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] karib4:
Longer cables can be found on amazon and ebay. Here is a link to one example.

http://www.amazon.com/KHOMO-Super-C...2J2M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326674364&sr=8-1
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] got556:
I guess I should rephrase. What longer cables have you all used that will charge the tab while using it. Most of the extended USB cables have terrible reviews because they can't supply enough juice. I see the cellet cable has good reviews but no numbers tossed around as to what its output is.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] Lior Messer:
I use a regular, generic (female / male) USB extender cable, connected to the stock Samsung one. Works perfectly.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] jonnyg1097:
Ditto, mines only a foot or two longer and it is more than enough distance for me.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Accessories] Migimli:
Why do you need the extra long cable?

A regular extender cable works likea charm...

Dx.com has a lot of those :)
[Off-topic] Drzfr3shboialex:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Vizio-32-E3D320VX/15992329

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/landing/playstation-3d-display/

Anyone have one of these? How is the 3D? How can I connect cablevision/optimum cable in the 3D display? Which one is better? Are you happy with the one you chose?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] klubhead:
Wondering if this is possible.. Anyone know yet?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] No_Smoking:
Probably not an "official" way, but I can see some after market company cashing in on the idea.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] IP IHI II IL:
There's absolutely no official way, seeing as the phone is basically "one piece"... There's a lot of risk in trying... That's the main reason I feel like we're all kinda entitled to the upgrade automatically...

My Tab's Flyer than yours (unless I'm posting in a Flyer thread, then it's just as Flyer...)

http://android-gz.com
[Motorola Droid RAZR] yyhd:
people keep asking this same stupid question. it's getting annoying.

DO A SEARCH.

No one knows for sure yet as Motorola has not announced anything. Nor has the phone been released yet so no one can tear it apart and test it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nikorasu:
You can get one of these.

http://www.motorolastore.eu/lv/p_motorola_product.aspx?i=204493
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Foulwx:
Sometimes when I reboot, I get a blank homescreen showing only my normal wallpaper and the four icons on the bottom of the screen. I then can't get into the applications drawer either. Another reboot or two usually solves the problem.

Any suggestions on where I could begin to look?

I'm running EL29 rooted, rogue kernel, stock ROM with the AIO, camera, and mms mods.

Thanks for the suggestions.
[Droid 2 Global General] Nechen:
Greetings All,

I just got CM7 working on my Droid2 Global. Everything is peachy except that when I make or receive a phone call it kills my 3G Connection. Now, it does come right back on after the call and I know for a fact this is a Verizon thing because it did this on Stock and also on my Droid Incredible.

My question is, is this a software or hardware "thing"? I'm wondering if theres someway to keep the 3G connection going WHILE on a call or if its Carrier specific and cannot be overrode.
[Droid 2 Global General] clockcycle:
It is a carrier thing, notice tv ads for at&t always tout their networks ability to surf while on a call. This is the same for most cdma carriers, the exception being while conneted on 4g, their networks aren't able to simultaneously do both data and voice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] seandidk:
Received my Galaxy S2 Skrocket last week and absolutely. Really fast, and the screen is absolutely amazing. I have been lurking on the forums looking at all the different methods in rooting. The phone shipped with 2.3.5 and kernel version 2.3.6. Haven't been able to do an OTA update either to 2.3.6 so I am just thinking about rooting. Anyone know which one I should use?

Root | CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH I727R Skyrocket?

Root [ACS] Skyrocket Easy Root - Windows/Mac/Linux

SuperOneClick v2.3.1 (using zergRush)

S2 Roto v1.5.1 - One click root and UnRoot solution for all Samsung Devices

or DoomLords Easy Rooting Toolkit

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] appdroid:
IF its 2.3.5 do one click root its the best.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] seandidk:
Which one. Super One Click or S2 Roto v1.5.1?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] appdroid:
Super one click for 2.3.5 the best.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] iandr0idos:
I agree. Super One Click is the best. Easiest.

And my custom rom counter hasn't gone up whatsoever... even though I'm flashing roms at least 3 times per day... o-o
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Ginther:
+1 on using SuperOneCLick.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] seandidk:
Thanks everyone. Super one click got it done :D. Already enjoying titanium backup is there anything I should do right after I root the skyrocket?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] appdroid:
Yes there is lot for you to learn haha. That's if you don't know android. But here i have noob//new to xda all in one guide read and learn. Here it is waiting for you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] seandidk:
Know a little bit about android, use to have a tmobile mytouch 3g around a year, ago absolutely hated it and gave android a try on a better nicer phone and I fell in love with android. Also does the skyrocket have an unlocked boot rom or no? Have seen mixed answers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] XAviierG:
Flash Red Sonja too ;)