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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] uglyren:
I'm about 95% with you on that. I think there is a small amount of hardware variation with Tegra 3(5%?) that got exposed with code optimizations added to "ICS".

Mainly I think these optimizations involved improvement in performance/power ratios specifically to improve ICS. Some Tegra 3's didn't like the new code optimizations and started locking up.

I have a TFP that ran fine on HC, crashed on ICS .11 and now runs fine again on 11.1. 11.1 however isn't shutting down cores anymore and is eating the battery while sleeping. HC and .11 never did that.

With hardware this sophisticated I'm not surprised at all that a change in software could affect a small percentage of units. With cores being completely shut down and core running states being transferred between them, all while trying to maintain thin edged power/performance ratios I'm amazed this stuff works at all.

The problem is that Asus didn't catch it before releasing ICS and that never looks good with such high profile products.

Somebody didn't test a large enough sample of hardware with the new optimized code. Whether it's NVIDIA or ASUS we may never know.

That being said I'm fully confident between them they will fix the mess once they finish wiping the egg off their faces! These are to huge tech giants with excellent reputations to maintain.

IMHO the worst that can happen is they go back to HC power/performance levels.....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Deathbyfugu:
My completely noob idea regarding the issues with the TFP on ICS is that some (if not a good portion of our issues) are related to the fact that nVidia and ASUS chose to build a kernel based on 2.6.x rather than 3.x. I refuse to believe that backporting kernel advancements is as reliable as building an Android compatible kernel based on 3.0.x or 3.1.x linux kernel image sources. A brief review of the kernel.org git pages (after a search for "ARM") reveals that recently (within the past month or so) changes have been made to the ARM architecture's basic handling of: power management, I/O scheduling, ARM sub-platform specific drivers (ex. EXYNOS, Tegra, etc), and ext3/4 filesystems. Frankly I'm surprised that ASUS and nVidia didn't even try to release a current kernel version (seeing as 3.0.x is effectively 2.6.x anyhow). I'm betting (and hoping) that the "fix" Gary mentioned yesterday will be a newer kernel based on 3.0.x or 3.1.x. I'm really just guessing here, but it only makes sense to utilize the newest code available on a platform that could benefit from it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HOFFERN342:
I got my second tablet today, a champagne color type of tablet with a serial number beginning on C10... worked fine for a few hours on HC, so I upgraded to ICS. And this one has the same problem as my first tablet... (a grey one with BC serial number).. it also reboots randomly. It cannot be hardware related.. it has to be with the software. I do not believe that so many tablets is screwed up. I bought the first tablet on Amazon.co.uk (sent back for a refund).. and the second tablet in a store here in Slovenia today.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] agzela:
11.1 Solved my lockups since Sat....

the 11.1 FW solved my lockups...as stated before its for the us models only
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cursebreaker:
can someone please come out with the WW version??? its really sad hearing you guys getting your problems solved but we're still stuck here...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] KlausPeters:
Only Asus could do that.

But they didn't make 11.1 official, because it didn't help every beta tester and introduced other bugs like the high standby energy consumption.

Lets hope they get it right this time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] agzela:
It must be frustrating, I posted my results because it shows that software can fix this problem....hang in there!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Nuno Mauricio:
i began to loose some faith .... :( my lockups and rebooting are every 10/15 sec of usage ....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TangoPapa:
I just spoke with my nephew in China. He's one of the kids on the assembly line that is putting the Primes together. He said that he did drop a handful of chips one day last week and that could be the issue.

OK we get it, return your prime if its not working. Now shut up. Please.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
Mine was working pretty good but seems to get more freeze up day by day. I get the one usual lock up per day. Maybe if I drop it that will help haha. That old tube TV trick give it a wack to work lol.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TangoPapa:
What makes this issue even more mysterious is the random frequencies across the affected primes... from 15seconds to hours/days. There is a lack of consistency.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PrimeTimeBro:
News flash for you the majority of Primes do not have the lockup issue with ICS you simply got unlucky there is hardware variance and inconsistencies amongst the Primes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] riker147:
He knows what he's talking about. A little birdie from Taiwan told him aaaallllll about it. :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HOFFERN342:
Haha, yes.. I would like to hear it from someone from Asus or Nvidia before I believe it.

I simply cannot believe that they would ship out (and keep on shipping out) new tablets all the time. Mine has serial with C10 now, and the other one I had was B something. If the hardware was faulty, they would have known that by now.

My friend also got the same problem, and another one has flickers but I haven't heard of any reboots from him. So 3 out of 4 Primes with reboots and 1 with just flickers after ICS update that I know of :) All of them from different parts of the world.. one is from Germany, mine is from Slovenia (the old I had was from the UK), and one from Norway. Seems to me like the problem is bigger than some people might think.. some say only a very small percentage.. but I am not so sure.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PrimeTimeBro:
Majority of Primes do not have the lockup issue with ICS a guesstimate is about 10-20% having the issue which is still pretty significant I guess considering it's hundreds of Primes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
I have a newer batch model. Mine reebots once a day under heavy use lol. Not horrible but I always get 1 reboot, no more no less.

---------- Post added at 02:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:39 AM ----------

Oh and also my YouTube app can be glitchy at times. Anyone experience this? Usually a screen flicker when first opened and videos will skip like stop animation time to time. Again not horrible, seems like something that can be fixed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vonslydog:
I have 4 friends with primes, all running ICS. I was the only one who had rebooting issues, so in my case, it was 1 out of 5 with an issue. It's impossible to know the real percentage from a small sample size. FYI... my rebooting issues were cleared up with the 11.1 build. I'm now at 4 days, 6 hours, and 47 minutes up time without rebooting.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
How is you battery on 11.1 especially with in sleep mode. I need to read more of the thread where I can get the 11.1.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ericshmerick:
Clove drops Prime from inventory, stops selling due to issues.

Asus "refutes" said issues and claims there is nothing wrong:

http://forums.reghardware.com/forum...clove_refuses_to_sell_asus_transformer_prime/

Keep in mind, I just posted this in the thread that Asus links complaining customers to on Newegg for the fix for this issue.

What's going on Asus? Is there an issue or not? Mine arrives tomorrow and I will be on the horn if it is defective, for sure!

Why the mixed signals?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
Maybe they are hoping people with problematic devices don't notice or we the customer are hiding under a rock hahaha.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vonslydog:
Honestly, I'm plugged in most of the time, so I can't give you any real info on battery life. Sorry...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cyclona94:
Benchmarks...

Just thought I'd post a few benchmark results from Quadrant (free edition) with my Prime in it's rebooting state before we (hopefully) get a patch in the next week or so. I did these tests (Run Full Benchmark) one after the other without exiting the app - except when it rebooted itself of course - nothing else running in the background.

Benchmark before update:

Balanced Mode: reboot, 1803, reboot, 2565, 2729, 2922, 2950, 2829, 2709.

Performance mode (rebooted trying to activate it!): 2800, 3059, 3010, 2895, 3009, reboot, 2768, reboot

Dunno why the results are all over the place... is this normal?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] epology:
That could explain why playing Shadowgun was such a weird experience in terms of performance for me. On some occasions, at the same ingame location, the framerate was great, on others rather bad.

Will also do these tests later to see what my Prime produces.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cyclona94:
Could explain it, certainly. Maybe the load sharing between the cores isn't working quite as well as it should be?

Just as a matter of interest, when it didn't reboot on me and got to the '3D corridor' part of the test, it was consistently running at 59-61fps. In comparison, my mate's Xoom hovers around 25-35fps.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BTrack:
Too bad the little birdie didn't clue him in to punctuation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whalemonster:
Current benchmark scores

My current scores on a C1 Prime running ICS 9.4.2.11 (UK)

AnTuTu

9572 - Balanced

10904 - Performance

Quadrant

2658 - Balanced

2771 - Performance
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hunter99507:
Quadrant

Balanced Mode: 2638

Performance : 3129

I am running version 9.4.2.11.1 and a BCOKA serial
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lonesomecowboy:
I personnaly think you are guessing stupidly.

Did you ever seen amazon stopping selling a device for high amount of returned product?? Only this is the proof that its higher than your estimation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aleandre1974:
Random reboots problems; Antutu results

Dear all,

A shame these random reboots occur with ICS (latest firmware) ! This is so sopradic I do not dare use the prime for anything else than casual web browsing, reading (FBReader) and emailing.

Serious usage (documents writing etc.) will wait for a stable device. I cannot establish a pattern explaining the reboots, although I believe changing performance profile makes them more likely, maybe. Even with letting it be on "Balanced" the whole time, I still get 2 reboots a day in average, sometimes far between, sometimes just one after the other.

I would be very happy with the Prime otherwise !

My contribution to the benchmarks, for future reference after future upgrades :

Antutu

Power Save 5621

Balanced 10154

Normal 10782

Firmware IML74K.WW_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117

EDIT : My serial starts with BCOKAS
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CurMac:
Worked like a charm.. what a fix.. No more reboots. Took my old prime back last night and exchanged it with another they just got in. Upgraded it to ICS this morning and has been working smoothly for the past few hours. I'm with primetimebro on this one, If you are having issues and can exchange your TFP you might as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Echofire26:
Screaming Freeze-up...Sound card failure? or what?

Well - roughly 48 hrs after shutting off the GPS, I've experienced two freeze-ups, the second of which was one of the screamers...ugh and now there's supposedly another Prime on the way and Asus claiming nothing is wrong in the news...to say I'm not happy is an understatement, but I really do like the tablet, now if they could just make it stable, I would be truly happy. Anyone have any other solutions or ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Quick followup as I'm writing this, a mere 5 mins after the last restart - it performed another one of those screaming freeze-ups...anyone have any other ideas or solutions?:(:confused:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SigFan:
My scores running ICS 9.4.2.11.1-20120118 (US)

AnTuTu

10072- Balanced

10904 - Performance

Serial begins BCOKAS
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] justmart:
My scores running ICS 9.4.2.11-20120117 (US)

AnTuTu

10256- Balanced

10952 - Performance

Serial - BCOKAS1xxxx8

I was getting like 1 reboot per day... I haven't received one like in a week.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
My scores on Antutu are... Serial Number BCOKAS running ICS 9.4.2.11

Balanced 10367

Performance 11098
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CurMac:
My Scores on Antutu were identical to the above. Serial number C10KAS running ICS 9.4.2.11.

10367 - Balanced

11098 - Performance
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pijiu-h:
hope this help

did the same way. I have been reading this thread since I got my TF201.

1/20 got one from Microcenter for $50 off; after upgraded to ICS had lockup and reboots issues.

1/25 returned for refund, and wait for the problem fix.

1/26 missed transformer prime a lot, went to Best buy get another one and got the price match which is $50 off from Best buy. Tested it on HC on Performance mode for more than 8 hr (playing THD games, surfing on the Internet, using camera, and installed some apps) never reboot, 1/27 upgraded to ICS never reboots or lockup too (so far). Very happy with the second one.

After read about engineer in Taiwan's post, I went to Taiwan's website and google for the Transformer problem (I'm a Taiwanese and live in the States.).

GPS:

GPS problem cost by Aluminum casing. Won't work inside the car (I think you only can use it like GPS camera has a Geo-tag feature)

WiFi/BT:

if you have Wifi and BT issues, you should return it and get a refund or exchange. (hardware issue)

Can't find any lockup and reboot news on Taiwanese website. hope this help and sorry for my poor English.:(

PS: I tried to post the Taiwanese's news website links on this post, since it's my first post XDA's not allow me to post a link. sorry.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
Wow, that's the exact same as mine! What are the chances of that lol.

Micro center has theirs listed online for $550 now. Odd.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pijiu-h:
that one is 64GB; original price $599.99.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dabbill:
My scores running 9.4.2.11.1 (US)

AnTuTu

10126- Balanced

10624 - Performance

Serial - BCOKAS

Would be nice tho if they had a bench mark tool that actually worked with the tegra3, CPU never made it over 50% usage while running AnTuTu.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whalemonster:
How are you finding 11.1 - any lockups/reboots?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dabbill:
Browser hangs up every couple hours, but just hit wait most of the time and it comes back. Youtube is better but still cant stream HD with out it buffing ever 15mins (trying to watch jupiter broadcasting 1 hour shows). I get like 1 reboot every day of heavy use.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
Oops, yea sorry didn't notice it was the 64 gb.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PrimeTimeBro:
if a store has to deal with 100 or so they would do this it doesn't mean that everyone is returning theirs. There was a poll on here for ICS lockup and most people voted they did not have lockup issue with ICS this is all the proof I need to know that most Primes do not have the lockup issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] epology:
Transformer Prime Benchmark

serial: BCOKAS

fw: IML74K.DE_epad-9.4.2.11-20120117

country: Germany

Quadrant (v. 1.1.7)

all numbers are arithmetic averages of 6 passes

PowerSaving Mode: 2006

Balanced Mode:2699

Performance:2911

AnTuTu (v. 2.5.4)

all numbers are arithmetic averages of 5 passes

PowerSaving Mode:5706

Balanced Mode: 10341

Performance: 10945

Somebody should compile this data in an excel sheet!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] whalemonster:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvSa9vVvOedKdDd1UUNwMndKank1NUVUSThGOXVXRFE

Feel free to edit/improve as necesssary. :-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Deathbyfugu:
All this benchmark info is great and all but it's beginning to clutter the thread with useless data. Unless your benchmarks are interrupted by reboots (and you note the occurrences, when they occur during the benches, cpu temp, current I/O info) then it's completely arbitrary and won't do Gary (and any of us reading through the thread for new, useful information) any good whatsoever. Please make a separate thread for this or something.

Edit - just keep adding to the spreadsheet and don't bother posting here unless it's applicable to the reported issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nattylite:
Might wanna to disable SDcard I/O in test b/c it's irrelevant to the actual hardware variations vs mircosd variations?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] itssunnyv:
11.1?

I got my TF201 about two weeks ago. As soon as I turned it on, I upgraded to ICS. It worked fine the first day, but has been locking and rebooting several times a day since. I've noticed though that my reboots happen when i first start using the tablet. After a couple reboots every 15 minutes or so, it will work fine for hours. It also feels like reboots happen most when i am browsing or when certain apps are syncing. It's been a tad annoying, but not has bad as what I've heard from others. I do hope they fix it soon.

So... being that there are 60+ pages on here to read, if someone doesn't mind filling me in real quick, that would be awesome.

Has anyone had luck with Gary's suggestion or manually reloading the most recent build of ICS (as described on the first page, 1/25 update I believe)?

I've been reading about an 11.1 update which seems to be working for some, but can't seem to find that anywhere. Doesn't sound like it was an official update, so it's probably not on the Asus site. Can someone let me know where to find it? I'd possibly like to try it out.

Finally... if it comes down to it, I might just return this to Amazon and get a new one... but if they're not even in stock on Amazon, then that counts that out, yes? I'd have to wait until they are in stock again.

Thanks for the input.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Here's the 11.1 update http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1452933
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cursebreaker:
but its ony for US... none for WW?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] lonesomecowboy:
Does anyone know how to revert to 11 when we have 11.1 installed?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jg10571:
I've just updated to 11.1 and i can't believe what a difference that made. I've actually used my tablet for 30 minutes straight and haven't had one reboot. I'm still waiting for a final fix but this is soo much better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MontAlbert:
i returned my Prime for a new one. New one has been rooted and upgraded to ICS and have absolutely no issues at all 24hrs later. return it i say.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HOFFERN342:
Wish I could say the same... returned mine and got a new one (champagne color instead of grey this time) with more lightbleeding and the same rebooting issue in return.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Casey Rain:
Can the 11.1 update be safely applied to UK models? Anyone know?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cursebreaker:
11.1 only worksfor US model.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] edster00:
I have been hoping for an update from Gary regarding the new code they got from NVIDA; he said he thought he would have an answer in 2 days. Has Gary been in contact with anyone privately regarding the new update?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Deathbyfugu:
I would also like to know if there has been any update from the R&D team. Any news, Gary? Even if the patch/hotfix seems to have been a "bust" we'd like to know.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jg10571:
Knowing something whether good or bad is better than not knowing anything.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PrimeTimeBro:
You guys are really waiting for a bandaid for a device you paid $500 for? Is it really that hard to return them?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] edster00:
Actually lookin to see if/what update they come up with before my return window closes ;). I am enjoying my prime even w/the reboot issue. If they can fix that I'll be keeping it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dabbill:
Its our money let us do what we want with it and stfu.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gremlin001:
I'm having the lockup/reboot issue as well. I don't have any further info to add to the list but would like to see ASUS resolve this issue soon.

My serial number begins with C1OKA and since I am in Canada, the update I would need is the WW update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Linde:
C1OKAS a WW update this week or i must DOA my device. :/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] riker147:
It's really not your business, but I'm sure some people are past their return date and have no choice but to wait.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] XHolyPuffX:
Welp..it's been two (and a half) days. I know debugging can be a painful process, but there hasn't been any good or bad news from ASUS. Kinda disappointing to be honest. Hopefully there will be word very soon of what's going to happen now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Deathbyfugu:
Do you have nothing better to do than troll this thread by suggesting the same course of action over and over again? Most of us have few (if any) problems and simply wish to know how Asus is handling the complaints and what software fixes are to be offered. Go back to reading 4chan and bother the other "Bros" there.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 760hacker:
Gary is probably on his way back from Taiwan which is why we haven't heard from him. I have faith that he has the fix and hopefully we will see it early next week.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jinx405:
hey guys... just ran (full) benchmark tests on my BC0KAS1 64GB Prime running 9.4.2.11 WW.

Antutu Balanced: 9980

Antutu Performance: 10606

Quadrant Balanced: 2739

Quadrant Performance: 2863

are these values normal? my Antutu values seem slightly lower compared to the others in the spreadsheet :( anyways, i've updated the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvSa9vVvOedKdDd1UUNwMndKank1NUVUSThGOXVXRFE#gid=0

hope it helps!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PrimeTimeBro:
if you haven't noticed yet asus isn't handling anything but our money. :/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mubble:
This update needs to hurry the feck up.

14 reboots since this morning and counting.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ericshmerick:
It's in his briefcase. It will deploy when he lands. This or they identified the issue when he was there and it will take time to fix...

Or it will be swept under the rug and the Prime will be the readheaded stepchild of the Transformer line and the 'fix' will be the new rumored Transformer...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] edster00:
Sorry but I haven't kept up w/all your posts... haven't you returned your ATP? I If you have, why are you hanging? If not, why not? No offense, just askin' :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jensck:
(Edit update: what edster said. Why are you still talking?)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
If its worth anything I factory reset mine for the F of it today. Haven't had any problems since lol. But its pre mature I'm sure. But no YouTube home screen flicker or a reebot or even a browser lockup.

Before I reset it today my browser was performing horrible and locking up. Was minutes from returning it to BB, but I have a love hate with my prime at the moment :p. Plus they are sold out all around me. I'm hoping for the best :D.

Its truly a awesome machine when it performs correctly.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Scuddster:
Anyone able to tell me how to revert back to honeycomb as mentioned in the fix? I dont see an option to even get to the image? Thanks to any assistance. I get lock ups every 3 mins or so.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pijiu-h:
Possible some apps running in the background. Try reboot and test it again.