yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
And green crt animation, pretty please with a lime on top
[HTC EVO 3D] CWGSM3VO:
Looking forward to this. I'll still use Chad's kernel, never had any problems with it.
[HTC EVO 3D] ossi009:
Thanks buddy! :-D Here you have a list of several patches for different roms if this will be for any help.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1341899

With "fix" I meant "make" a patch, sorry!

HTC EVO 3D X515m using xda premium
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
cool thanks man looking into it now i will have something for you guys to test in a few i hope it boots :)
[HTC EVO 3D] |=>AmuzZ<=|:
thanks alot virus... :) i hop it fixs the 3D camera

waiting for it.... :)
[HTC EVO 3D] seanybiker:
Hey virus. Love the rom. Hope your feeling better bud. Was trying to explain the work your doing to a girl tonight and was saying your cdma and we are GSM. She seemed to pick up what I was on about. Then I told her you infected me and she kicked me outta bed. Thanks for that. Haha

(She fat) so it ok bahahaha
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
The man, 183 is downloading now, just gotta back up my new ics. Titanium and Il flash reporting my finding

Didn't think,too impatient lol whats the file size for 183 has it finished uploading
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
183 is booting fine here budd, running it now, testing as we speak

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2d and 3d , video and picture in camera and gallery, all working, I repeat ALL WORKING

virus, your a living legend

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It's once again missing a file manager as standard , not sure if it was purposely done or not
[HTC EVO 3D] osrix:
Boots, camera working, Nice!

Finally made the switch to Eternity and, so far loving it, nice work virus!

Camera working in 2d and 3d gallery working also just to re-confirm.

Still using stock kernel for now to test.

Thankyou :D
[HTC EVO 3D] nikosblade:
So its the first 3.5 sense port that its bugless? Everything works as it should? :D
[HTC EVO 3D] harrypothead:
Except for 3D games, it's pretty bugless.

Send with EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
And the built in snapshot function,
[HTC EVO 3D] buntoid:
Flashed over the top of nightly 165 (Anthrax kernel rls001a) and my observations are:

Capacitive buttons are no longer dimmed

Stock kernel seems to work fine with both cpus scaling properly, but if I flash the Anthrax rls001a kernel to achieve OC then they both sit at max.

Apart from that love the rom but going back to my speedier n165 :)
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
both cores at 100% would be your system/bin/sh choking on your init.d, just kill it in task manager and you're good ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
+1 , capactive are full, option to dim or turn off be good,

Have you tried full wiping ? I'm using leedroids latest and I'm not having a problem
[HTC EVO 3D] nikosblade:
Flashed already! A small bug is on the shortcuts of rosie when i tap on personalise internet explorer opens. Not a factor bug, i am just mentioning that for a future fix. :)

Virus awesome job my friend. Honestly a masterpiece rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] osrix:
Not a bug, change what that button does in virus tweaks ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] nikosblade:
I was ready to edit my post. I just found it. :p
[HTC EVO 3D] buntoid:
Cheers that did the trick
[HTC EVO 3D] klebengan:
observing with cpu gauge and system tuner, both core are throttling above 60 % even in idle condition. my evo are getting hotter when charging.
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
use System Tuner's task manager, and enable excluded processes
[HTC EVO 3D] buntoid:
Do you know if there is any way to prevent having to do this after every reboot?

I have disabled all CPUs online in the init.d.script but it still happens after a reboot.

I would prefer both CPUs online as I find the gui is a bit laggy without.
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
I would like to know that myself :')

I'm running Anthrax v2 rls001a kernel, without forcing both cores online. Just set your min. freq. to 386MHz, and your 2nd core will stay on after reboot. It's just a known bug that if you set min freq to 192MHz, your second core will stay offline after a deep sleep ;)

EDIT:

Virus, you've said that on r183 you've pretty much started all over again on this rom. Could you please post a list of major modifications you've done so far? Because Spotify keeps crashing on me again :( it worked flawlessly on r180, and the problem started on r182. It doesn't really crash, it just hangs at 100% cpu, and i have to kill the process to start it again.

Could you please look into this? :) I'll post my logcat when I've tested it again.
[HTC EVO 3D] hatharry:
My system tuner widgets not show the right CPU load and freq. Also CPU load is very high
[HTC EVO 3D] buntoid:
How do you think this bug was introduced? It doesn't happen on n165 but when I replace just the apps taking them from n183 and reflash the new zip file it drops the second core. :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] starsscd:
R183 out thanks virus

hoping, app video/voice calling working on it :)
[HTC EVO 3D] DanN80:
Stock theme

Hey, awesome rom!! Thanks Virus!

I've seen a few people asking but couldn't find any answers....is there a patch or something to revert to the stock theme??

Thanks Again!! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
For everyone interested, leedroids force dual core support patch, flashes fine on this Rom, and system tuner shows it always active, even with minimum CPU set to 192, just got 6370 on antutu with out the patch, gonna run antutu again with it, brb

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6473 with the forced dual core patch, on demand, governor , max 1.5 min 192, il try again on performance governor
[HTC EVO 3D] klebengan:
nice info. and no problem with the heat too?
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
No not at 1.5 , with other kernels, in my experience the phone only really gets hot above 1.782 , I'm even connected to charger and still no noticable heat
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
I'm pretty sure we're not kicking their asses, since we have to go pretty far to exceed their stock(!) benchmarks.

As soon as a nexus of sgs2 user starts overclocking, we're screwed :')
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
No as far as I'm aware, our scores on antutu are averagely compared against oc/uv custom Rom/kernel devices on antut

I know this Rom doesn't have cam, but we have to power a qhd screen and 3d hardware where as the s2 doesn't , that needs to be taken in to consideration

I achieved 6754 on virus infected 176 no forced dual core, using leedroids v1.0 kernel, killing of the s2, note and nexus, in antutu

OH BUGGER, I THOUGHT I WAS IN ICS VIRTUOUS THREAD.

my last 6 posts are not intended for this Rom, huge apologies,
[HTC EVO 3D] osrix:
Could you point me to a link for leedroid v1, please.
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
It's no longer linked anywhere mate, he's released about 7 kernels after it , I just have it saved on my phone
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
I hate to shatter your dreams, but the sgs2 scores far higher than our device could ever possibly do :) :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1321603

And the 3d hardware is only used when displaying 3d images, which antutu does not test in it's benchmark.
[HTC EVO 3D] osrix:
Yeah I know just thought you might know of a link somewhere, I had it once too. A couple of times lately ive heard people say they are using it with this ROM so thought I might give it a try...no worries, thanks for the reply :)
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
AH.....I see thanks, so even though antutu has to display its tests on our bigger qhd display, .......has no significance in amount of power needed to perform the test

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Just checked that link.......damn,.......I'm obviously naive, and thinking very wishfully lol

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I'm sure lee can provide a link, or I'm happy to upload somewhere with his permission
[HTC EVO 3D] osrix:
That's ok using Kamma 10.02 now which seems great and supports mhl which is partly what I was aiming for.

In fact the speed of this Rom with kernel is now stunning! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] hatharry:
Killing bin/sh is not what I wanna have to do everytime i restart my phone hope virus fixes this in the next release
[HTC EVO 3D] dlads:
This rom was good initially but it eventually began to lag, a bit sad really.

Why did that begin to happen?

Not meaning to flame cos i'm not like that, but it actually did. Otherwise i'd be still using it.
[HTC EVO 3D] starsscd:
still no luck with app voice/video , display goes on and off while using the phone
[HTC EVO 3D] CWGSM3VO:
3d camera + video works fine in stock r182

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[HTC EVO 3D] CWGSM3VO:
I found this to be related to the virtuous initd scripts. Disabling them solves this.
[HTC EVO 3D] Firething:
might be a very stupid question... but how to do that ??
[HTC EVO 3D] CWGSM3VO:
Make sure HTC drivers are installed, Android SDK (platform-tools) and connect via USB then do:

1) adb remount

2) adb shell

3) at the # command line, type: cd /etc/init.d/

4) ls -l

[you should see the scripts here]

5) su

6) mkdir disabled

7) mv * disabled

8) ls -l

9) sync

You may get an error on #7 (can't move directory) but it should move all the init.d scripts into /etc/init.d/disabled/. On #8 you should just see "disabled" and no scripts. #9 is just for good measure.

I suspect it's the SQL vacuum that might be doing it. I don't use the init.d scripts myself as /etc/init.post_boot.sh crushes any settings made in init.d/ so I do all my setting modifications there.
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
virus green themeing within android

:Dif you want your messaging app ui colours to match virus green ui of the rom, then install go sms pro, and theme it with the "droid simple" theme, looks pretty sweet. its in the diy themes section, contacts are even themed virus green and black, through the messaging app with a swipe

then install go keyboard, and install the green neon theme, and select it as your main keyboard, loads of awesome options, even ability to add or remove arrows manually

all these are free, and can be found in market or through go store
[HTC EVO 3D] seanybiker:
Virus has a cdma evo and not a GSM model so he is basically making this rom blind. He depends on our feedback because he has nothing to test it on himself.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I seriously don't get why the 2nd core comes in so often on 3.5 roms. I've sorted the high load issue but the 2nd core is still popping in constantly. This issue is with all sense 3.5.roms and it's doing my head in, it's not to do with the Mpdecision file... Might change to LeeDroid or kamma to see if it makes a difference

Sent from my mythical enchanted asynchronous 3VO
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
What's up guys !?!? How is everything going over here ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] seanybiker:
How ya chap. All well here :)
[HTC EVO 3D] adrain:
any change log here guys? thanks for this beautiful ROM.... just wanna whats going on for the new updates nightly.... ;) thanks virus........ ur d man....
[HTC EVO 3D] rejanmanis:
downloading N 1.8.3 , last attempt was on 1.8.0 , cery dissapointing on browser lag so much. Hope 1.8.3 will got better :D
[HTC EVO 3D] osrix:
All good here thanks Virus! Using R183 with anryl's development of Kamma's kernel and all running smooth, no bugs so far that i've found. Nice :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
I've been playing around with moving the scripts back and forth, and I've discovered that the runaway sh process is caused by the 99--battery_calibration script. So just delete /etc/init.d/99--battery_calibration and it should be fixed :)
[HTC EVO 3D] V_Plum:
The cam do not want to save 3d photos. It's focusing, shooting, but closing without any message instead of save the file. In 2D mode cam working great. Anyone have the same issue?
[HTC EVO 3D] Dracula72:
arabic patch needed plz

plz we need the arabic patch for InfectedROM Eternity rom cuz i tried all the arabic patch and it have problems plz we need a stable patch for this rom thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] CWGSM3VO:
Nope. 2d and 3d camera/video works fine for me. Please note, I am running the ROM stock including kernel.
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
I'll make u one tonight when i get off work pimp

Sent from my InF3ct3d T@Lk app
[HTC EVO 3D] rejanmanis:
same here, im on N 183.

I didnt do superwipe , because i use CWM touch, it was installation aborted.

I just wiped data factory reset.
[HTC EVO 3D] lilvfr400boy:
Mine works fine with super wipe n fix perms b4 boot
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
you simply can't flash superwipe when using touch recovery, it just aborts installation. Same thing happened to me a few days ago.

It was the main reason I reverted back to 5.0 cwm recovery, since the 5.8 touch recovery had MORE bugs than the 5.0 recovery, and I saw no reason why I would keep using it :')
[HTC EVO 3D] lilvfr400boy:
Ahh I use revolutionary cwm as it still works with cwm app, and charges in recovery too :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
Sup guys !! On the way to go see Tool play :) ill work on an update when I get back tom. Hope everybody has fun this weekend !!

Sent from my InF3ct3d T@Lk app
[HTC EVO 3D] lilvfr400boy:
I am green with envy :-) I love tool
[HTC EVO 3D] :
SNOWING in London at last. Time to have a snow fight :D

Sent from my mythical enchanted asynchronous 3VO
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
It had already snowed yesterday in the Netherlands, had a lot of fun with my quad bike :'D never heard of tool before, got to look them up as soon as Spotify works on infected rom again :')
[HTC EVO 3D] stiffmast3r:
whats that tool thing?
[HTC EVO 3D] V_Plum:
The temp outside rise from -30 to -18 in Ukraine and I'm still waiting for the new build with working cam and othe 3D stuff :)

Currently I'm on LeeDroid, but I want Sense 3.5 :)
[HTC EVO 3D] rejanmanis:
Never had a snow around here :(

Its because im in tropical :D

Btw ... Why this ROM so heavy, its like im running my phone with a singlecore 800 Mhz.

lag , ui glitch and a bit slow. Sorry for complaining :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] Dracula72:
thanks i will wait for the patch
[HTC EVO 3D] dexteral:
Just flashed this Rom. Really customized nice !!!! . Haven't noticed any problem << for me anyways. Thanks virus for this excellent Rom. :) :D
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
Lol, tool are a heavy metal/ grunge band, have you never played guitar hero or rock band
[HTC EVO 3D] lilvfr400boy:
Virus how did you get the inbuilt WiFi hotspot to work as on my rooted stock Rom it won't work unless I use wireless teather which sucks any advice? I have two EVO 3ds atm so trying to mod while I have the chance
[HTC EVO 3D] ossi009:
How did it go? Did you make it? :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] 1raoulduke1:
Which do you prefer?

Virus I have enjoyed your ROMs since the minute I rooted the OG EVO. I have flashed both Airborne and Eternity and cant seem to settle on one. Which do you prefer?
[HTC EVO 3D] cooper81:
airborn...? where Can i find it?

Gesendet von meinem HTC EVO 3D X515m mit Tapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] CWGSM3VO:
Just flashed r183. Seems good but it seems a lot slower with the stock(?) kernel, I'll be flashing Chad's kernel soon. Everything app-wise is still working perfectly. I assume the kernel present in r182 was Chad's rls001a or was it a newer build not currently available from his git?

EDIT:

Virus: I have a small list of UI fixes I'd like to request if possible. Seems all the 3.5 based ROMS out there are the same in this sense :) Here we go..

- PIN unlock screen: backspace character is a green block instead of arrow

- Notification slide down: notifications/quick settings text is unreadable for unselected tab using default HTC theme (transparency enabled)

- HTC clock stopwatch/timer: digits are way off, hard to use (I'm one of those who do) reliably.
[HTC EVO 3D] lilvfr400boy:
I believe it was a different kernel ;-)
[HTC EVO 3D] SerialKilla:
No doubt bro - Thank You!
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
By the way guys you can track my progress http://projects.infectedrom.com/projects/infectedrom-eternity-evo3d-35/repository
[HTC EVO 3D] dlads:
Good to see another dev, welcome to the darkside of the force :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jamesclinton:
quietly waiting :D:D
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
soon as this kernel finishes compiling i will toss it in and upload for you guys :)
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeysteele:
This is great news! The GSM EVO is begging for more devs to join the party. I'm more than happy to test this one :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ehsan76:
Cant stop waiting :)

Its 4:15AM here and I was going to bed but found this new thread and now waiting :)

Have a training course to attend in the morning but the anticipation is to strong to stay ;)

Finally something new and different for my EVO :)

Thanks man :)

Ehsan
[HTC EVO 3D] GregNL:
Thank you! Will definitely try! :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Garrytheogre:
can't wait to test . might have to flash at work lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Redtabs:
So many that you can't imagine bro~ hehehe..glad to see you here~ welcome to the club~ ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] kittykat858:
my buildbox11 compiler died, and 02 has a bad HD - re-compiled on buildbox01 (my desktop) - zipping now and uploading to V

...sorry for the delay

EDIT: done

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
[HTC EVO 3D] clarkdevlin:
You had me at "hey guys", will glady test your rom
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
i need a kernel tester for goodman's new kernel first pm gets it :)
[HTC EVO 3D] mamen0330:
Im in! since now, no stable ROM for evo 3D with sense 3.5 and beats. I hope this one will be that one. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] crisvillani:
Pm'd ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] vere850211:
Can't wait to test your Rom!

ps. Don't forget to add Transition Chinese and Chinese input :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jason27131:
Let's be honest, who WOULDN'T be interested in your awesome ROM. Tester +1.
[HTC EVO 3D] metamasterplay:
I KILL YOU!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/EVO_3D_Developers/Virus/Eternity/Buildbox/3.5/

aight guys dont be mad if it doesn't boot sombody wanna be brave first and report back :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ehsan76:
Downloading :)

15mins remaining :)

Gonna flash and report back :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jacktackle:
i got stuck at boot screen of energy rom. fixed permissions. no help. leedroid rom works fine but there after i flashed virus. just not passing the boot screen. n e help?
[HTC EVO 3D] keyra74:
you're s-on no?
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
try flashing superwipe
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeysteele:
If you're S-ON, please read my FAQ! It will explain it for you.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1456855

If you're S-OFF, sorry no idea :(
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
Not sure if this post has slipped through your attention, but for those having extreme cpu usage on startup since r182 (runaway /system/bin/sh):
[HTC EVO 3D] Dracula72:
arabic patch plz

we neez the arabic patch plz i love this rom
[HTC EVO 3D] nicefellow:
Here you go

file in attachments

first reboot into recovery

wipe dalvic and cache

flash zip file

wipe dalvic and cache again

enjoy

Hope this helps

cheers
[HTC EVO 3D] CWGSM3VO:
Yup, you're right. Gonna make a flashable zip with the kernel from r182 today as rls001a doesn't have Chad's governor.
[HTC EVO 3D] lilvfr400boy:
Which gov?
[HTC EVO 3D] osrix:
Yeah and It works! much as I like to watch my cpu's dance It seems a much more stable solution, and weird thing is that performance it just the same, great! thanks :cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] CWGSM3VO:
IntelliAnthrax which as I understand it, does its best to ignore mpdecision.
[HTC EVO 3D] jacktackle:
i'm s-on but there is recovery and boot unlocked

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i'm s-on but there is recovery and boot unlocked
[HTC EVO 3D] V_Plum:
I can't find -- is there any solution for 3D cam? On my device it's closing while trying to save shooted picture (the same situation on the Eternity, Shooter Bliss and Shooter Beats). Can other kernel or camera.apk fix this issue? Thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] lilvfr400boy:
Try Superwipe before install. Camera works for pretty much everyone else so must b doing something wrong
[HTC EVO 3D] ossi009:
I ****ing love you man! Hehe thanks :-D
[HTC EVO 3D] rejanmanis:
is there something to do with the second lower camera?

I read it in MIUI forum ( if im not mistaken ),

someone tells me that, there are 2 kinds of EVO3D, the one with 5 and 2Mpx ( for 3D pics ), the other with dual 5mpx camera.

Camera will works fine with the second lower camera which is 5 and 2mpx.

Newer EVO3D will have dual 5Mpx camera, that's why on dual 5Mpx camera, will not work on sense 3.5

i had superwipe before install ROM, but i cant get the camera saving my picture in 3D ( it kick out to the main screen launcher), i read the system hardware info, mention there dual 5Mpx camera. I bought my E3D last months, so that why i can my EVO3D is the newer version.

well im not pretty sure, correct me if im wrong.
[HTC EVO 3D] V_Plum:
all of Evo 3D phones have dual 5 mp camera, but regarding to the 3D technology they can make only 2 mp 3D pictures (LG Optimus 3D, instead, can make 3 mp 3D pics).
[HTC EVO 3D] rejanmanis:
so what's wrong with it, some people claim cannot make 3D picture ( can shot but cannot save, same thing happen to me ), and some pople claiming camera works fine,

I always install revolutionary superwipe, before installing ROM.

i cant take a 3D foto, not only on this ROM, but also in all 3.5sense ROM, like shooterbeats, etc etc.
[HTC EVO 3D] CWGSM3VO:
I've had my phone since September last year (give or take), looking at my h/w specs page it also says I have 5MP * 2 camera and a 1.3M front camera. You can find this under About Phone->Hardware Information. Camera and Sense 3.5 works just fine for me :)

One thing I do wonder about when people are reporting problems with Camera (for example) is if they're running the ROM stock or restoring all their little tweak apps/etc. I run this ROM stock, with the kernel it came with (except for r183, I used kernel+broadcom driver from r182 on my phone) and do all my tweaks via init scripts (in my case, /etc/init.post_boot.sh) and I don't really have any problems with the ROM. I did however Superwipe when I came from Warm ROM to Eternity but since then, just been wiping cache+dalvik and upgrading (not even wiping either a second time in most cases).

Some of you folks having problems I'd like to know if you're running the ROM stock (or almost stock) without any additional apps/etc. Curious to see if it works "out of the box" for those who are having problems.
[HTC EVO 3D] klebengan:
i got this too. any solution yet?

udh nyoba ini = amaze camera mod.

have u try this?
[HTC EVO 3D] rejanmanis:
Not yet bro, but i'll try when i used this ROM.

I need to go back to lee to have 3D games working :D
[HTC EVO 3D] starsscd:
Battery Issue

i discharge my battery fully and i pluged to charge it showed me red charging indicator for 20sec and went off i tot it will get charge so i let it full charge.

After 3hrs i tried turning phone on, it was showing slight red light led and wasn't powering on, i removed the battery from phone i pluged in again and tried to power on but same issue, ( it is problem because of custom rom or battery or mobile board issue?) to make it work i force charged the battery and than i pluged to phone and kept for charging with screen on it was charging the battery....
[HTC EVO 3D] nicefellow:
No prob Bro. you are welcome :)
[HTC EVO 3D] rejanmanis:
What happen ?
[HTC EVO 3D] starsscd:
182 is new release rite? virus?
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
183 is the newest release. Virus said that he started from scratch on r182.

He messed up some files when splitting the GSM and CDMA version, so r182 won't flash in CWM. r183 is the fixed r182 version ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] lulonen:
Am I blind or there is no note and tasks widgets (and many others from sense 3.5)?
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
hey guys take a look towards the bottom of this post and let me know which ring you like best dont flash these though cause they wont work.

http://infectedrom.com/showthread.p...9-3-0-SENSE-CDMA?p=10369&viewfull=1#post10369
[HTC EVO 3D] Virus:
sorry guys had the wrong link in the op 182 was for cdma peeps
[HTC EVO 3D] shirioko:
My vote goes to carbon :)

maybe a good idea to start a poll in this thread? ;)