yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Actually the first version came from zFr3ak. And I see his point, because when my github was available you were pretty known for cherry picking every change, merging them wrong, then when I said something about them on the thread, saying you already had then and I messed up.

It is easy to believe just what you see from a finished product and the posters words, but github has the truth. All we ask is you quit trying to play it off that your the expert and were the ones trying to learn and just come clean that your trying to rush features but not exactly making them or taking time to understand what they do.
[Desire HD Android Development] Black1982:
That is a known bug. Was also present in CM7. No solution as far as I know. Workaround: when gps signal is lost, disable gps and enable again. Now it stays locked!
[Desire HD Android Development] Adrianiiii:
Help if you like and stop complaining.
[Desire HD Android Development] Timoooo:
I tried it too... I tried every possible combination of equalizer and those bars(With my Beats by dr dre headphones on!!) And i didnt hear any improvements... Changes yeah, but improvements no.

Yes it works with 4.1.2 and every other version. Just as I said, I dont think it makes any improvements.

@the ones who say it doesnt work.. Yeah it does. Flash it, then go to your stock player, play a song, click Menu and then Equalizer(or something like that)
[Desire HD Android Development] semdoc:
Twistedumrella & Synergye & Lord Clockan ....

Show Must Go On !!!!

Please !
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
Getting to be a Soap Opera in here.
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
https://github.com/IceColdSandwich/android_hardware_qcom_media/commits/qcom

https://github.com/IceColdSandwich/android_hardware_libhardware_legacy/commits/ics

Read the name on all those commits. I help plenty. I am just getting sick of helping when the developer doesn't even know the contents of his own git. I asked about the CM9 branch, and another developer was thrown under the bus for a branch that HE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A PART IN.

No, there is just a lot of "well someone said it on this one forum so it must be true" somehow outweighing cold, hard, proven facts. In a way, though, you are right. I guess it is time to leave your developer to produce all this works alone. Before I go, I recommend looking at:

https://github.com/aospx

https://github.com/aokp

because those will be the only changes you guys end up getting anymore...
[Desire HD Android Development] cstayton:
OK, enough off topic the moderators have already said they will start infracting people and rather than sit here and B&^#% lets put a stop to and get back to the matter at hand.
[Desire HD Android Development] Mwood4494:
I think we should start each day with motivational affirmations so we forget we're all here for a common goal and curb the hate:

I love and accept myself. I understand and accept that my imperfection makes me perfect. Therefore, I am perfect exactly as I am and will remain perfect as I learn and grow.

lol :)
[Desire HD Android Development] mbudden:
Blah blah blah. Keep the drama out of the thread. Take it to PM's if you must.
[Desire HD Android Development] Youngunn2008:
So how did he throw him under the bus exactly? Lord is very busy doing a lot of things and if he forgets things it isn't the end of the world right? Maybe he misunderstood what you were trying to say, but saying that synergye maybe put some changes in a branch isn't exactly mothereffing someone and throwing them under the bus.... everyone needs to take a step back and stop getting their pride hurt. Yes it sucks that it is the way it is, but I don't believe that anyone here thinks that lord created all of this himself especially with the amount of stuff you post in here helping AND the credit given out on the first post.

Sorry but anything else needs handled by private conversation, not publicly calling others out. It ends up making you and the others look childish... sorry.
[Desire HD Android Development] trh1341:
If he makes a good rom does it really matter? I mean I'm sure there are a bunch of others that don't know what is in their git how exactly does it affect you...as far as I know he gives you credit for anything he get from you
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
There is no drama. You were given development facts on a development thread. I don't hate anyone. It was a change from the usual Q&A that the other thread was created for. I just wanted to see things move forward, but first a few issues needed to be resolved, which in turn brought two hard-working developers attention to the fact that while we both were being fed information that the other was messing things up, neither of us were the ones causing the issue. It was the guy claiming he works so hard just to add what someone else spent the real time doing.
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
I'm not a developer, but I have to give you all credit. The hours and things you all do for us general audience and users is beyond my comprehension. I ROOTED and choose this ROM because;

1. My warranty was nearly up

2. I wanted to experiment with another ROM

I am pleased with all the work everyone has put into this ROM. However, if toes were stepped on, names missed, congratulations forgotten, or even suspicion of using something from someone else without acknowledgement, I am sorry, but this world was built on such endevours. However, I strongly agree that credit needs to be given, developing needs to be tested and retested, and those all involved voluntarily work together so that the end product is something everyone can enjoy.
[Desire HD Android Development] the_maker:
Ok twisted, lets say you are right. I don't understand those lines of code, so i can not say who changed what and when. But, to tell you the truth, these users here are trying to give all the can to the community. Some is designing the logos, other post fixes to noob's and the third are just flashing, testing and posting bugs in hope that some dev will see them and improve the rom and the whole experience.

I'm on xda since 2007 and i've seen many developers come and go, trust me. I've been part of many "flashing stars" and then in couple of months they are gone. To be honest, at the end the user that are keen to flashing will find another ROM to flash and to try.. Even change phones and join other threads.

But, it is usually the DEV's that can LEAD THE CROWD are getting the most appreciation. You are a brilliant dev, and you know your s$$t, but your thread is far less populated as this one. Simply put, you can be brilliant professional in the world, and in the end there are the politicians guiding all of us. There are leaders, and there are followers, that is the truth.

If you can not find a mutual language, that is OK with almost everybody here. People simply like when an old machine like DHD gets special treatment, and when someone works hard to give them something for free and for fun. And that is what counts in the end.

Thanks to all that try harder to achieve the impossible or forgotten.

@MOD: If this post is not correct, please delete it.
[Desire HD Android Development] arknailed7754:
enough of the biting...work on ics

the mods are on route most probably now..joyous..

so bk on topic

what's next for ics

bk on topic

Sent from Absolution 3.7 with ics waiting under the wings
[Desire HD Android Development] sonnyboipunx:
cant believe it, also happening here!
[Desire HD Android Development] mr_cowboy1:
off the topic of recent, but does anyone know if it's a bug or feature, than when I plug my headphones in, that the notifications and ringers still go out the external speakers in addition to the headset? if this is a feature, can it be turned off?
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I am not looking for credit, and the common misconception of development leads people to assume that. What I am looking for are a few things I have mentioned when talking to others about the current state of ICS:

1. Don't say you did it unless you actually did. It is fine to take whatever you want, otherwise it wouldn't be on github. Just don't pretend you invented the idea when you only have a loose understanding of what the idea was.

2. Don't take a change from someone before you understand it. The common practice here is to cherry-pick, then flood the persons change comments asking them to explain how it works. If you don't know, it should not already be in your build.

3. If you want to pretend you made this device what it is, then you darn well better expect to be questioned, and when you don't even know what the contents of your own source are it is time to take a step back and review, ask for help, read up, but NOT try to play it off as another developer being wrong.

That simple. I don't care that I did 25% of the work on the build because i put it out there for everyone. I care about having other developers come back to me saying they heard here that I screwed up, but giving them the changes directly they work just fine. Oh, and...

The only current issue is the phone force close due to DPI and the kernel will have to be flashed separately until I sort out why the wifi module is building incorrectly. I fixed a lot last night, including merging the 4-way lockscreen directly into cm9.

And as for the mods being on their way: this is on topic. This is a development thread, and both synergye and myself have made points about improving the flow of development. If you don't understand what the conversation is about "stop the drama" and all the other comments don't need to be made. Thanks ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Flow-Wolf:
My new video about Ice Cold Sandwich

This is the High Def Edition

[YOUTUBE]pzy5HZWOrAA[/YOUTUBE]

To see Trebuchet & other video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/flowhottocome/videos
[Desire HD Android Development] anjini:
Sorry to see you leave, but understandable....

Good luck...
[Desire HD Android Development] arknailed7754:
twisted im taking it cameras still a no go has ur kernel helped

edit yeah twisted this isn't aimed directly at you its aimed at the endless fckin posts trying to air there view as well...thanks :-)

fully aware of what your on about here..this isn't what's on

Sent from Absolution 3.7 with ics waiting under the wings
[Desire HD Android Development] fishykipper:
25% a bit modest, I've been following this thread and the git from the start, without you this ROM wouldn't be half as great as it is today. That's a fact. I assumed you and Lord were working together as I see your changes as often as I do his. It's a shame credit isn't given where its due, to you nor the other developers.
[Desire HD Android Development] IN-Freak:
jelly defense doesn't work, tested with latest 4.1.2...

The touchscreen doesn't work ingame :/
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
I really hope this ROM is not in destruction mode,,, got nothing to flash back to worth considering
[Desire HD Android Development] fishykipper:
What you mean mate? Sense 3.0 FTW!!!

Haha, I wouldn't even consider reflashing that filth on my DHD after using this ROM.
[Desire HD Android Development] kaijura:
Not trying to stir the pot, but to touch on something I didn't see anywhere with LorD saying anything that he did all the work or something like that. He may have plucked out commits but he did so for everyone to enjoy using their ace.

I know who deserves the credit for what work since I read around on git for the commits instead of just flashing blindly and patronizing people, I realize who worked on the omx, camera, aokp / weather addition, etc.

Secondly, if LorD offended any developers - I also understand english isn't his first language but he does a pretty darned good work of translating everything he is doing from Croatian to english. Maybe it could be a case of culture/region barriers that certain things may not have been stated?

Most of all LorD just wants everyone to enjoy a good working ROM combined with everyone's work on git, I don't feel under the impression he's here to plagiarize anyone's work out there on different repos and claim it as his own...
[Desire HD Android Development] Matija Gubec:
... kindergarten ...
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
I absolutely SECOND that one..........

This is an online project. I am dead certain if all the boys were to get together, hash out the bugs while sipping beers and tossing a few darts at pin-ups, there would be no issues.

The FACT is,,,, it's not a round table cluttered with mobiles, notebooks, and empty bottles. There are vast miles between all the developers and a bit of "I did't see that post" going on. We all just got to do the best, accept what comes and goes, and bloody hell, let's get this ROM finished so I can take a good piss.
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Statements such as "I was the first Desire ICS rom" are just flat out lies. I don't think that was faulted English, and that sounds like taking a bit of undue credit.

What synergye and I are annoyed the most about is that while using others work is fine, when you intentionally corrupt it but then still point the finger back at the original developer for the issues while more than willing to accept credit for when it succeeds, others are bound to get aggravated.

Camera works fine on mine. There is still some slight top corner corruption, but I am working on that. We should probably move this to the other thread. I will be uploading a patch kernel shortly to sort out wifi.
[Desire HD Android Development] r0cafella:
I'd say it's more of a statement from a man who feels he's being attacked than anything else.

We should cut LC some slack bare in mind he's come from kernel developing to trying his hand at roms.

Isn't there anyway to sort this out without people taking drastic measures?
[Desire HD Android Development] nielsnll:
I often get this bug/error: the text is suddenly half gone.

I.e.

t e te t s go e

the text is gone

Then I have to restart my phone and sometimes I have to re-restart. Kinda annoying.

Any of you have a clue what's the problem?:eek:
[Desire HD Android Development] elbermu:
@twisted why you and synergye talk to him privately?

People will stop complaining and stop commenting about this is a "drama" and you all may have an happy ending.

I love this build and yours, which I find are really smooth and good. Just my opinion...
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
Indeed... You all (developers) need to get together on some sort of conference call, chatroom, or something and hash things out. You've all done a brilliant job and if some leave now, we're all screwed until either a new ROM comes out, or we buy a new phone.
[Desire HD Android Development] zelendel:
OK I will say this. That involves only a set of the the developers. No one else has anything to say about it as it doesnt concern them.

I would advice that this be taken up in PM from here on out. As this really is not something that needs everyone butting in like what has been going on. So please unless your one of the Developers that this concerns Leave it alone.
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
What led to the issue was the private conversation where each of us had the finger pointed at the other. We brought it out in the open to resolve that.
[Desire HD Android Development] johansenmo:
/quote from first post

All credits goes to dh.harald, twistedumbrella, existz, CM crew, Evervolv and all other that have contributed... and me of course This is not MY product, it's a combination of team work and sharing!!!

We are all here to learn, take from community and give back to community!!!

/quote from first post end

anything else?
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
sorry for cherry-picking and bringing the ICS to the masses..

if I didn't take this job they (users, community) will still play with semi finished products..

and.. no zfreak didn't boot it first.....

I know **** about coding, but I make it happen... and most of the users know that because I already said that a couple of times..

no one other took the responsability and TIME to make working ICS rom...

this is all I will say...

I will post one more version of this rom and than I'll really have to think hard if I'll continue or not...

managed to fix weather icons.. was missing a few lines.

Also I CHERRY-PICKED AOKP's weather fix for statusbar panel because it was their mistake after all..

I would really like to watch TV with my wife every night and not stay UP on my PC till 1AM... every night..

@twisted:

I don't remember any private conversation
[Desire HD Android Development] NFNP:
Just to thanx LC, TWISTED and all DHD fellow for the good work done so far
[Desire HD Android Development] hypnz:
Don't even think to stop this project!!! Oke?
[Desire HD Android Development] elbermu:
OK, then, no more comments from me about this issue.
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Seriously, there were like 4 other developers. Ironically they have all left because they were tired of being thrown under the buss when you used their stuff incorrectly and then blamed them. All we are asking is for you to take responsibility. That simple. If you use it, take ownership for more than the credit for the release.

We didn't have a conversation, but when you go around telling people a developer screws up, and they say "well it worked for me so i don't know why this person told me you hadn't done any testing" you know what happened.

Ugh, this is too frustrating. You keep playing dumb. I will go back to building something that works without having to blame issues on everyone else. Later
[Desire HD Android Development] okkie:
really i recpect you very much "develpoers" you spend time and efforts and sometimes money to make us "users" happy.

we should all thank you for that.
[Desire HD Android Development] -Happy Feet-:
The private life is more important than this ROM, but i hope you an the other Devs from this Team would be finished this ROM.

Enjoy your Life and and let the Internet be the Internet ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
Sorry Twisted,,, that's crap. Don't bring your laundry out to dry here. Work it out in the private mode. Sorry mate, most of us here really don't have any clue about the terminology you developers use, so why take it here to sort out your differences? Of course you maybe trying to save face, but really, will the audience understand?
[Desire HD Android Development] IN-Freak:
please LORD, please stay here!

You're ICS ROMs are very brilliant!

I followed the dhd forum here on xda since december2010 and in this time I have seen alot of good developers. Before one month capychimp left us, so now we hope you will make good ROMs.

I hardly appreciaty you're hard work, I know that it cost alot of time.

But you know that the community in the dhd forum is very big, and you know that everybody will support you!

You're ROMs are the best and will be the best!!!

I know that i can't influence you're opinion, but I know that I can say thanks for a thousand times, and I think that I speak for the whole community if I say this!
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
If you don't understand "STOP THROWING US UNDER THE BUS FOR WHAT YOU DO WITH OUR WORK" then I weep for the future...
[Desire HD Android Development] -Happy Feet-:
clarifies that under 4 eyes and not Public!
[Desire HD Android Development] zelendel:
Ok guys well as it seems I was not clear enough. Let me make it Crystal Clear.

Unless you are Twisted, LC or Synergy then what is going on doesnt concern you, so leave it alone. I understand the need sometimes to use the thread for something like this so all involved can see the same things. So I am willing to let this play out, but only for those concerned.

I hope I am clear on this.
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
Just saying.... take this all behind closed doors... Be men, work it out, shake hands, and have a wank after the ROM is done......

---------- Post added at 07:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:47 PM ----------

It's flooding the thread, misplacing reports, and getting a bit boring. You should know, a typical day in Alaska...
[Desire HD Android Development] twistedumbrella:
We are being men by taking responsibility for our work and not allowing others to step on us anymore. Thanks. As I said before, I am done. I made my point, and certain users will no doubt think I'm a jerk for using big words to say "just stop blaming us for the problems if you want to be honored for the successes"

If there wasn't always that one troll crawling out of his bridge to play cheerleader (happens on every thread... where do they find that many?!) then it would get covered over by 10 pages of useless crap in an hour.

I will be http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1451467

Best of luck. I appreciate everything I have gained while being in this thread. Goodbye.
[Desire HD Android Development] arknailed7754:
does anyone else actually use the battery bar lol...just asking

Sent from Absolution 3.7 with ics waiting under the wings
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
Not bashing you mate and I think you are brilliant.... Just don't understand the issues going on with the others. Going to follow.... No ROM is perfect until its perfect.

---------- Post added at 07:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:54 PM ----------

LOL.............

I needed that....... Thanks for a good laugh
[Desire HD Android Development] claude96:
Right , but can I say this : Water Bridge ( if not , then delete the post )
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
Isn't that....... "A Bridge Over Troubled Waters" ??
[Desire HD Android Development] jcmaddox1:
I do^^

Sent from my Ice Cream Sandwich, Fresh from the freezer.
[Desire HD Android Development] jimmy-fix-it:
oooh yes indeedy, had one like that back in the winmo 5 days, loved it then, and still love it. These "little" bars only 5mm long just don't cut the mustard :-)

Long may it continue ;-)
[Desire HD Android Development] pnoire:
Hello,

In one of his last messages, Twistedumbrella called back something that I had forgotten. This forum is a developers thread and not a Support or Q&A for users

We users, have had till now the big chance te be welcome here. We could test and speak about this awesome rom, in a developpers thread. Never a dev told us "go away, it's dev's thread".

I think that now, the best we can do to thank all dev for this great opportunity they give us, is not to intervene in a discussion between devs, discussions in which we users are really not qualified to take part.

Sorry.. it will be my last OT message

now i'll keep on my "job of beta tester" and just report bugs (maybe help some users too... i can't resist when i can help :D
[Desire HD Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
I think I'm gonna throw my DHD in the trash tonight and buy Siemens S10 in the antique shop...
[Desire HD Android Development] Quinny899:
Taking it a little too far
[Desire HD Android Development] Raymond Ebertt:
There goes this week's beer money........
[Desire HD Android Development] cwhitney24:
Hey...got a blackberry bold 9700 for sale if you wanna venture off into the depths of boringness lmao

I got your 10 char right here

Rocking Abso bacon...ics style
[Desire HD Android Development] Youngunn2008:
If I could afford it I'd have a GSM gnex in a heartbeat. ... screw this phone. Ics just makes it more bearable.
[Desire HD Android Development] johansenmo:
I'm gonna stay with Lord just because He made it happen. Discussion about how things were done should be outside this dev(!!!!) thread Same as Q&A....

Please all, continue working in this.
[Desire HD Android Development] harro3:
I don't understand what is causing my drain though, because I have good signal at the moment.

I just went from 50% battery to 35% in 30 minutes and the phone was in idle mode the whole time :(
[Desire HD Android Development] Youngunn2008:
Sigh so did anyone figure out why mms won't send on newest build?
[Desire HD Android Development] fishykipper:
Random, they send / receive fine for me. Sent multiple in the past hour.