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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
Orly? Do you just not have any understanding of how things such as "business" and "time" works? i9250 released after i9100. The number is greater because it was released later. Not necessarily because it's better. Kinda like how the i9020 had almost identical specs to the i9000 (after removing the SD card and adding a ffc) but had higher model number.

Lemme guess: You're the guy who buys name brand cereal because it's more expensive than the white-box brand, even though they taste the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChongoDroid:
Duh kellogs rules bro!

Sent from my Google phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gahh Its Lee:
I like the plain store brand cereal. I prefer the gigantic resealable bags. Sooo useful.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pesho00:
When i have a choice to exchange my trusty SGS2 to NG i had a sleples night a very tough decision to make. Now i am wit GN;) my observetions so far - smoother UI, the only game i play - robodefence is a LOT faster than it was runing on SGS2 (i asume this is because of Android 4)...

So HW is prety musch OK i do not play benchmarks and for real life apps GN is Very snapy phone (might be one exeption - slower internal storage - Nandroid take eges for smaller backups???)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
The point being that playing 1080p video has almost nothing to do with the SGX540, which is what this thread is about.

Sent from pure meXdroidRom!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Then tell that to the guy complaining about it. I just made a comment that it was fine for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Because tasks it would bog down on are offloaded on a hardware decoder? Just a guess, I don't honestly know for sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
Only video uses the hardware decoder. Games and UI are all on the CPU and GPU.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blackdub370:
answer to the question: no
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mac208x:
Too the people that complain about the GPU that it sucks etc. SELL you nexus, get iPhone 4s AND QUIT COMPLAINING & get the f*c* out of here. Thank you for playing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mac208x:
And also I think Google made a mistake of picking Samsung to make the nexus. They should have stuck with HTC and make a create phone like the nexus one was. Good hardware, very very solid doesn't feel chap and its not made of cheap materials. Samsung was always for making bad phones. HTC polishes theirs. Look at the history of captivate how many issues it had. This is my own opinion as I haven't owned a Samsung phone since captivate came out. But hey nexus phone came out and it was suppose to be the king of phones but look it still has issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gahh Its Lee:
I second this. No one cares. We'll just download the apps your whining about use them with no lag and look at that your irrelevant. The phone awesome get over it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yeah, yeah, the article isn't from a great source, but indicates no company is perfect.

http://www.bgr.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-issues-persist-hardware-related/

Do a google search on antenna issues when the Nexus One came out. HTC is nowhere near perfect either.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
1) AT&T's Skyrocket LTE doesn't have a Qualcomm S3. It has a TI OMAP4430, a part older than the Nexus' 4460.

2) The T-Mobile Galaxy S2 doesn't have LTE. Hell, T-Mobile USA doesn't have LTE. So they can use a SoC without 4G. Mentioning a T-Mo device is completely irrelevant.

3) Google and Samsung put the fastest LTE-compatible SoC available at the time.

4) In the future, please don't spread misinformation. 90 seconds of research would have given you correct info.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dwallersv:
Something about your setup if making your phone an Unhappy Panda. That live wallpaper is running smooth and flawlessly for me (gummynex 0.5.4, franco kernel #13).

Try the helios screensaver if you really want to exercise the GPU: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jarodyv.livewallpaper.helioslite

That's running like a champ for me too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dinan:
Huh? You mean this Skyrocket? http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_skyrocket_i727-4303.php

http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2&device_id=1011

Doesn't look like an OMAP to me. Did you only spend 89 seconds?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] saywhat4118:
AT&T skyrocket LTE uses qualcomm S3 clocked at 1.5 not the TI OMAP
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
1. Its not omap, lol. Google a bit longer.

2. They have a 42mbps hspa+, which was my point (high speed network, once again).

3. Indeed.

4. Learn to accuse correctly. I didn't spread any misinformation. Now go sit in the corner facing the wall for the rest of the day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EPICTROY:
+9999999999999999999
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
This is besides the point. People who were expecting more have every right to be unsatisfied with Google's choices. And providing FEEDBACK. This is what this thread is about! See the title of the thread, it's a QUESTION!

And it's a question with no right answer, and this is supposed to be a ground for discussion.

I still believe that Google could have done better with their choice of SoC's, or rather that TI had chosen to include a better GPU in the 4460.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -=Dante=-:
My Galaxy Nexus is really really fast.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] frank21cn:
true.

but Gnex supports much more games than GS2. that's why i replaced my GS2 with the Gnex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EddyOS:
So provide feedback - TO GOOGLE!!

I have no issues with my Nexus, I'm more than happy with it and have none of the issues others say they have. Might be a dodgy batch but I couldn't care less
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] synaesthetic:
My GN is the fastest, smoothest, most enjoyable Android experience yet. And the screen is drop-dead gorgeous. It makes my PC's IPS monitor weep in jealousy. The GPU does not concern me. It seems plenty fast enough to maintain a smooth experience all around.

The only issue I have is Sammy downgrading the audio DAC from a Wolfson to a Burr-Brown. Not that the BB DAC is bad or anything, but there's a noticeable difference between a Nexus S with Voodoo Sound drivers and a Galaxy Nexus. The GN is, well, worse.

Edit: I take that back, I have more issues with the GN. One, the screen is so monstrous that I have trouble using it with one hand (though I expected this, so oh well). Two, only the Verizon variant has 32GB of storage. Three, the damn thing uses MTP with no option to mount as a mass storage device. Ugh. Hope the real CM9 (not the fakey releases going on right now) addresses this.

None of these are dealbreakers, and all of them bother me more than the GN's GPU.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Neo3D:
That's slow for me too. Maybe it's cuz I'm on Kang milestone 2 and stock kernel?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Neo3D:
Actually I noticed that if you swipe thru the pages of your app drawer fairly fast, it's not hard to get it going fast enough to cause a lag in the page transition animation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
People who were expecting more should have known the 4460 was used before they bought the phone and waited for something else. Do your research before putting your money down. Buyer beware and all that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
My apologies. I read the wrong line item. It's the GT-I9100G with the 4430. It's what happens when replying at work while doing 3 other things. Depending on the model, GS2 uses either Exynos, S3, TI 4430 or 4460. That is four unnecessary design models. That extra design work costs money.

HSPA is not LTE. I'm not even making a qualitative statement about speed. A carrier like AT&T can't make an Exynos phone work on its LTE network. An HSPA SoC is useless to a carrier like Verizon.

Using a term like "high speed network" is like comparing high grade jet fuel to high grade racing fuel. Both will make vehicles go fast, but you're to ruin an engine if you put kerosine in a sports car. You'll blow up a jet engine if you put gasoline in them. They are not interchangeable. HSPA and LTE may offer similar bandwidth (not really, but that's besides the point), but they are not interchangeable either.

Missing a detail is one thing. Spreading garbage because you don't understand the fundamentals is another.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
LOL, you are backpedalling from your own mistake while still accusing me of misinformation. Classic.

Anyway, I said high speed network to encompass 42mbps hspa+ and LTE, both of which have not seen Exynos, and the word is (I never gave 100% confirmation, read if you do not believe it) that Exynos does not work with these radios. Show me Exynos on 42mbps HSPA+ or LTE and I will retract everything I have said with an apology.

Spreading garbage? Hardly. Admit you attacked me and my information with complete falsehoods and told me to Google more. LOL.

PS--Would you get off my back if I edit my previous post to read, instead of high speed networks, to read 42 mbps HSPA+ and LTE?

And here I was just typing high speed networks to save me on typing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skyhigh2004:
Seriously i hoped by buying a $700+ device there would be less *****ing about things people knew the phone had before they bought it! Everybody knew the damn specs before, if you don't like them buy a different phone or something and stop *****ing please. If you wanna complain and state your opinion please do so where someone cares, at least cares enough to do something other than argue. On this forum these threads pop up like cancer just waiting to spread and ruin the board. Why did you buy a phone that you thought was weak hardware wise? If YOU thought it was bad why waste YOUR money? Please return it. Period.

I absolutely love my nexus even with a few flaws. I knew all of the hardware when i purchased it and never once said " damn Google why didn't you make your phone even better, ahhhhhhh my life is over!". These threads are pointless and ridiculous.

I've ran 1.5 on my phone with several test kernels, it boots and runs fine and fast but is slightly unstable and most phones won't boot. So it is possible, and I'm sure will be eventually.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Maybe. Right now for most (myself included) it is not. I do not think it has anything to do with voltage, and even the source code says the PCB does not support 1.5.

It takes me about 5 minutes to boot a 1.5 kernel.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
ATnTdude:

Before:

After:

Happy now? LMAO.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
I am doing my research as we speak. Have been for almost a month. And this is why I'm still on the fence on whether to get a GN or not. I've used the GN extensively but it's a lot of money to spend if I'm not going to be fully happy with the product I get :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biffsmash:
I think the nexus is a great phone, but it is a little slow for some reason. Ibought it for the screen though so i cant complain. Just hoping Ics updates will improve the speed of the phone and allow live wallpapers to run properly lol.

Even using messaging app is a little slow so maybe graphics drivers need to be optimised or something. If not, i will probably be on the search once again for my perfect phone lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChongoDroid:
What system version, kernel, bootloader version, etc

sent from my googletron
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
I personally find no issue with the performance of the phone. I have yet to see what everyone is complaining about. No, the UI smoothness is not stellar yet, but I expect it to get better with optimizations in the near term. There is so much that's good about the phone it overshadows any of my gripes. That said there is always something better around the corner in this world. Being a long time PC gamer I was chasing CPU's then video cards after the 3Dfx Voodoo chip came out for years. I've grown weary of it and learned to realize chasing the top performance dog is a race you never win and end up missing out on other things. Grabbing every nexus phone when it comes out is extreme enough as it is.:)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flippy125:
This. I was trying to keep up and ended up buying a phone every 6 months. The GNex runs great and the gpu doesn't feel dated at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biffsmash:
I'm on Stock 4.0.2. And am really disappointed coming from SGS2 with the performance of Nexus.

To find out that the graphics chip came out Feb 2010 is a shock to say the least lol.

Really thought this phone would match the SGS2 for general performance out of the box and stock going on all the perfect reviews.

Edit: When the phone is running ok, it's smooth with the odd hitch, but in general use, it lags and skips along happily. Swiping left and right on the homescreens, coming in and out of the app drawer, going in and out of gmail and messaging app, all lag or skip, and the fancy animations, in my book, are just there to mask the issues. As for games and live wallpapers, the games run ever so slightly slower than SGS2, with skips and lags, ie shadowgun, and live wallpapers are almost a slide show.

All that said, I am sticking with the phone as I love the screen and thats why I bought it, but I am shocked they'd use such an old gfx chip.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
Many are reporting 4.0.2 is laggy compared to 4.0.1. I don't see it much. Reports are that 4.0.3 fixes it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biffsmash:
Lets hope updates improve it.

Another thing now thats annoying me is that the keyboard doesnt correct words when.typing in browser and cant zoom out and type properly lol. Grrr
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
Yea you'll notice a big improvement in 4.0.3... still not perfect but does the job. I use Pixel Rain LWP and there's no huge performance dip like some.

LTE EX Galaxy Nexus - 4.0.3 AOSP

Asus Transformer - Revolver OC/UV
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Never on Android has the keyboard auto correct worked in the browser (afaik). If it did, it would interfere with urls.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Its not the same thing from the SGS. Its running faster, and being fed by dual channel ram. Those things do make a difference. In the end, there were no better options available at the time for Samsung/Google to use.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dario3040:
Sorry but I don't eat cereal =)

The Nexus S and Galaxy S were different on many places, far beyond sd and ffc.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
Auto correct in the browser definitely worked in previous android versions. And from people on this forum its apparently fixed in 4.0.3, but i havent tried it yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
If you say so.

I've never had it work on my previous devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jmollabi:
google didnt make the galaxy nexus..it was samsung..how ignorant are people
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
I'm using it right now on my good old nexus one, auto correct absolutely works. You're prob thinking url field address bar which never supported auto correct. But text boxes surely worked, but not on ICE.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
Google chooses every component that goes into a Nexus. Maybe you'd know that before calling people ignorant. (: That's what a Nexus is about. The Google experience. Stock Android on hardware made in unison with the new OS.

Sent from pure meXdroidRom!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Huntlaar:
ithink not

google know what ics need

so they but the limit for the other phone maybe this is the down limit but still within the limit ! ithink all problem there are in nexus from ics not from hardware !!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Indeed. Well interestingly enough I used my phone to type this and sure enough I have auto correct. So maybe it depends on the forum software being used.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
I'm not so sure google specs out everything. They likely give basic main requirements lije cpu and gpu etc, and leave the vendor to put exact package together. I doubr google is requesting a certain fuel gauge or i2c etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
The only better gpu option that would make sense is the 4470 with SGX544. That part was only announced in June 2011. Not nearly soon enough to be considered as I'm sure design was finalized before then for it to be retail by November (I bought mine from negri end of Nov)

We won't see that in a phone until later in 2012.

http://www.slashgear.com/ti-previews-omap-4470-graphics-50-improvement-over-4460-10208481/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
I think they do. 9-12 months to just send a spec sheet to Samsung and for Samsung to choose the SoC? I think not :) 9-12 months goes from idea conception through SoC choice, not just informing Samsung of the must-have features of a phone and letting Samsung hash it out with random SoC's that meet Google's requirements.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Epix4G:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/30/new-galaxy-nexus-running-a-ti-omap4470-chip-gets-benchmarked/

Yep sprint galaxy nexus real soon
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
LOL..you really think that is not only a Galaxy Nexus, but for Sprint?

All from an anonymous Nenamark2 Benchmark?

Thats pretty funny.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Epix4G:
The first leaked AD stated 1.5GHz and yes it's under galaxy nexus or didn't you see that.. Read the article before u get mad .... Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Unreleased devices can be categorized incorrectly.

Second ad, you know the one not pulled? Does not list 1.5ghz.

Not hard to use the build.prop fingerprint of a Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Epix4G:
How long would it take to make the same device that Verizon has available for sprint like 15 seconds and out the door ... It is going to be different
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Considering Sprint is on a different frequency for LTE than Verizon? Plus has pretty almost no LTE markets?

More than you think.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You don't spoof the gpu. You spoof the build.prop fingerprint for market access...

That is most likely what Nenamark2 is reading.

Do I doubt there is a 4470 device out there? No. Do I doubt its going to be a Galaxy Nexus? Yes.

It will be a different model altogether.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Epix4G:
The frequency is the only thing that would have to be changed in the radios

It's the same lte and cdma chip
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Keep holding onto the hope its a 4470 ;)

I am rooting for you. Honest.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Epix4G:
Either way I am getting it .... I use cm7 so it will be better for me as I miss the qhd on 3d ...and get super amoled plus ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
samoled HD, not samoled +.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChazzMichaelMichaels:
Then laugh at the draconian nonsense they get to put up with in terms of the endless update/jailbreak battle among other things. Also be sure to poke fun of the fact that their devices are made by a company that has to put suicide nets around the perimeter of the ****ing building because the working conditions are so bad.

Is the iPhone an excellent device? Yes. Is it without flaws? Nope.

Eh, Flash will be gone soon enough though. It'll be interesting to see what kind of impact Google's efforts on media delivery have in the future, and if it ends up making Android stand out more.

Ah, then it's settled. :p

In all seriousness, I'm sure Google wasn't oblivious to other options both present and future and tried to make the best decision they could. I've read other articles regarding the Tegra 3 that makes it sound like their decision to not go with it could have been vaguely political after some tension with nVidia.

On the bright side, this is a Nexus phone. Google is going to be pushing updates to this thing way ahead of everyone else, and ICS is going to be getting a lot of attention. Yes, there will be better hardware out there running ICS in the coming months, but much of it will also be at the behest of the manufacturer to push out their own mangled versions complete with unnecessary customizations and bloatware.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
But this being said, a high percentage of XDA users are what people consider "power users" who root and S-Off their phones. AOSP is already on 4.0.3 while Google's own update hasn't even made it to many/any Nexus phones.

I'm still on the fence on getting the Nexus. I love so many things about it, but some things not so. The GPU being one of them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skyhigh2004:
If you haven't bought one yet I'd wait for something else now. In a month or so new phones will be out some of which crushing the gn. I've had this phone for going in 2 months now and its the best device I've ever owned. But phones are out dated in two to three months now so if a device has already been our two to three months its already off my radar. Good luck with your choice its an amazing device.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
New phones will still be waiting on software we will already have access to.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
I would agree with this if I had any other phone than a Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
Honestly, coming from my Desire Z anything would be a big improvement. That being said... By the time any device reaches my shores, the next big thing is announced and the cycle starts again. Samsung store just gave me a call to tell me that stock just came in, all TWENTY units....after a 3 week wait.... So yea...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] b15love:
Everyone is posting opinions and not facts. Fact is that games such as GTA III (with hi.res on and all effects on) runs laggy in some areas. N64oid runs like crap. FPSE runs like crap with OpenGl plugin. Is it ICS fault? It would be if other phones/tablets running ICS had these issues. But they dont.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] got_milk:
I honestly have no idea if you're trolling or not.

GTAIII is a very graphically intensive game. I wouldn't expect any Android device on the market right now to play through the entire game smoothly with high-res and all effects enabled.

N64oid is attempting to emulate a Nintendo 64! Do you have any idea how much processing power that requires? Even desktop computers have to consume a fair amount of processing power to emulate games.

FPSE, see point above.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SolidHelix:
Try playing anything on an over locked atrix 4g. It is amazing. I haven't played a game yet that dropped a frame. I'm wondering myself why o gave it to my wife and bought the nexus.

Gta III runs like a dream on it. It would barely load on the optimus. I haven't tried it on this phone yet though
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sblantipodi:
Exynos wasn't good for lte reason but what about SGX543?

As far as I know.we paied this phone as an high end one.

We got 16GB only and no microSD with a.crappy camera.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] subxero123:
i know what your talking about

i regret buying the galaxy nexus

i knew i shouldve got the s2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Then by all means, do so. Airing your woes on a forum aren't going to make you any happier.

Some of us love our devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Exynos is a CPU paired with a Mali GPU.

SGX is a GPU.

That said, I haven't heard of Omap being paired with anything other than what it is designed. I'm not sure if its even possible to split it up like that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonathan3579:
I haven't tried either of those on my Galaxy Nexus but they run perfectly fine on my GS2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gahh Its Lee:
That wallpaper is awesome only phone. I've also never slowed my phone down once. So basically you goofed. Sell your phone and buy a new one or head over to the market section or whatever its called and trade it for something you like. Yay solutions.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vaerio81:
Hey neo3d is this u posting in this article comments ? http://androidandme.com/2011/10/dev...ms-galaxy-nexus-has-newer-omap4460-processor/

Cuz if it is I don't understand with all the complaining u did there y did u end up buying the device ? ....I just don't understand people sometimes smh ...

Edit: I also downloaded the wallpaper and installed it to see if I get lag and I don't feel any lag as of now as I'm typing this , and streaming music ....