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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] realfelix:
LOL ive just read 12 sites which nearly ruined my day just because there are so many people trolling about the nexus. Firing issues on google without any reliable proof. Just pathetic and ridicolous if you ask me.. I dont own a nexus but was able to play around with it as a friend of mine owns it and i can just say that the gpu forcing neither makes the UI smoother than it is nor does it make it lag. So seriously people be proud to even own such a gorgeous phone as people in the 3rd world would WISH to even have a phone with no Touchscreen and in black & white. Else you got some serious problems lol ! Trolling off.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonathan3579:
Where did the OP go? *lurk*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dario3040:
I doubt it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] taylerdurden:
Correct me if I am wrong, but, isn´t the GPU by default at 384Mhz?? This is the stock frecuency...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] robt772000:
I think stock is 304Mhz.

Still its overclocked but custom roms/kernals overclock it to 384Mhz.

I think the Nexus S had it clocked at 200Mhz?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] edgie168:
Welcome to the internet, where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI agents.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xnpu:
IMHO the chosen GPU works fine in the Nexus and with any app I've tried. I don't think Google has made the wrong choice. Whether you've done right by choosing the Nexus for your specific needs however is a different matter ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] taylerdurden:
The TI OMAP 4430 is clocked at 304Mhz, but the OPAM 4460 inside our Galaxy Nexus, is clocked at 384Mhz

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAP#OMAP_4
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EKnofsky:
That is what OMAP is set to by default, Samsung/Google have it set to 304 mhz by default.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChongoDroid:
Forcing gpu acceleration totally makes a difference.. try the stock twitter app without it lol. You would probably know that if you had a nexus :P

sent from my googletron
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tomit12:
Whatever the case, clocking it at either point doesn't seem to make a tangible difference. That is, I haven't found one at least.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonathan3579:
You forgot that a lot of OP's are magicians. They make a thread (such as this) and poof! They're gone. Good thing this was a free show.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
It's said the the GPU WAS supposed to be 384mhz... as was the CPU's stock speed is 1.5Ghz.

If you do the math, both have a 15% decrease to 304mhz and 1.2Ghz for the CPU.

Why? I don't know. The GPU is stable at 384mhz but they can't find a way to make the CPU run at its stock speed yet. At 1.3Ghz, its unstable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] staticx57:
While Tegra 3 has the best CPU/gpu both exynos and the apple A5 have more powerful GPUs than even Tetra 3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KWKSLVR:
The GPU was set that way in interest of battery life, and because there was no usable increase in gaining that 15%. Bear in mind, this is a DEVELOPER DEVICE. A lot of good maxed out specs does developers when other devices roll out with lesser hardware and an inability to run apps developed to run on this phone.

The CPU was set at 1.2Ghz for a slew of reasons that you can search XDA for, mainly reliability issues @ 1.5Mhz. This device, as it sits, will probably never see 1.5Mhz. 1.5Mhz is NOT the "stock" speed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
It was underclocked because the PCB does not support 1.5ghz. It was either overclock a 4430, or underclock a 4460.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KneeDragr:
Well there is the GPU in the Ipad2, but Apple locks them down with an exclusivity agreement, so no dice there.

Tegra 3 but I guess that carried higher risk as to if it would be ready in time.

Looks like the Mali chip is a dead heat pixel per pixel.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Mali doesn't work with omap4 afaik. So thats out too. Exynos won't work with LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dinan:
It was really just a choice between the 4460 or the snapdragon s3 and since they've been working for a year with the Nexus S which has an SGX540 it must've been a natural choice to go with the TI SoC. I guess they could've chosen to use a Tegra2 but I think they knew how bad that would've been given how much of a failure it was on tablets...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] staticx57:
The adreno 220 in the snapdragon s3 is a bit faster than the sgx540
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Not enough to be noticeable by any means.

You gain a less capable cpu and single channel ram in the process too. So while you marginally help graphics, you hurt important areas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
Yea but Tegra 3 chipset didn't come out until the time the Galaxy Nexus did. I think it was released late, which pushed development back. The Asus Transformer Prime was supposed to be released with the Nexus in October.

I don't even know if the Tegra is compatible with LTE. I guess it is because I think there are some Tegra 2 phones on Sprint (LTE?).

The Tegra 2 was sweet but NVidia doesn't play nice with open source, thus development won't be fun. It was a pain to get drivers for the LG G2x (I think they used community created drivers to get some things working). LG didn't help much either. Very powerful combo though. Not the best when comparing "benchmarks" but compare gameplay between it and rival chipsets and the Tegra 2 smokes the rest. Tegra 3 is the only player I see in the coming months. I'm sure Samsung will have a new chipset but probably won't support LTE.

I'm really interested to see the Tegra 2/3 perform on the GPU Accelerated ICS OS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GinoSylum:
Best. Post. Ever.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mayze23:
I wish all the people who constantly complain about this phone would trade it in for the perfect, flawless iphone. I mean each model launched with absolutely no problems...errr....wait...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] YafaKlan:
Can't lie. I just downloaded that live wallpaper n major lag.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tommyz2kool:
On Basemark I get 8.75fps with stock on gummy w 384 oc GPU 10.23 lol :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
1.48 FPS is serious business :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MS.:
No, they didn't. I'm able to play any 1080p video files, i can play 3D games with no lag. OS feels fast and smooth. What else would i want? Higher Quadrant scores and higher power consumption? No.

By the way, your post nearly stopped me from buying my GN yesterday. I'm so glad that i found one sales assistant in shop with Galaxy Nexus in his hands. I asked him "how well performs your phone, i've heard that it comes with weak GPU". He just smiled and gave me GN to play a bit. Two minutes was more then enough to go and buy it :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
Lmao soooooo true! Haha

Gnex 4GLTE
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fahrenheit:
AnandTech said Samsung underclocked the Galaxy Nexus by 20%. Root, then overclock the CPU 20% more... problem solved.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] norklo:
on stock it was kinda laggy on all live papers for mine...

After rooting, problem solved. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I will pay you 500 dollars if you can accomplish such a feat (and have it work).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Rooting in itself solves nothing. What else did you do?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MattSkeet:
people what is wrong with you all?

I have not seen any android phone having live wallpaper and not to lag NONE!!! the only live wallpaper that I've seen and they don't lag are wpclock and beams. Everything else stutters even by tiny bit and I can see it ...

There is just too much processing power needed to handle icons desktop Widgets and moving wallpaper itself
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ekolb123:
He smiled at you. Sounds like he was asking you out dude.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
No.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RaubRaux:
Seems like we are never happy for long.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
That's because the OMAP 4460 has a dedicated decoder, and it's not processed by the GPU. So yes, the GPU on the GN IS weak, definitely weaker compared to cheaper phones (SGS2), but does/will it matter? Personal preference.

As far as I can tell, every kernel that has OC'd the GPU to it's stock 384MHz have seen ZERO performance gains in benchmarks, even though clocks are 20% higher.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Depends on the GS2 model you are speaking of.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
Of course I mean the models with the Exynos SoC's :) Yes, the OMAP 4460 might have the 2nd best GPU in a smartphone now (excluding the A5), but it's pretty far off from the top.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
I think Morifics new kernel has the GPU Overclocked to 512mhz. I hear he's in need of $500 to actually buy the phone. Blind builds are so much harder to fine tune. Pretty stable as is, I hear anyways.

LTE EX Galaxy Nexus - AOSP KANG

Asus Transformer - 3.2.1 OC/UV
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Manya3084:
Put a 720p screen on a gx2 and see what you get...oh wait, the note is exactly that and games ain't much better at high Res.

Powervr is the tried and tested gpu, always works with no compatibility issues. It might not be blazing fast but its perfect for a flagship phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
Games aren't much better at HD, but the GPU still has to pump out those pixels. Leaving a bit of headroom for when games DO get better looking is what a flagship phone should be doing. Besides, the GX2 isn't using the Exynos, there's barely anything to compare between these two phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] soulicro:
The Galaxy Note has the same SoC as the I9100, and it lags in all the same places the Nexus does.

The only place this GPU lags is when it comes to very high def games. If you knew you were a "cellphone gamer" and did any kind of research on this phone, you knew this wouldn't be the right choice for you.

This phone will run all the "normal" games (Fruit Ninja, Cut the Rope, etc) for a good while to come, and at least for me personally that's all I need out of my phone when it comes to gaming.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
The Galaxy Nexus isn't Samsung's flagship phone. The Galaxy S II is. They're trying to build a brand in the GalaxyS.

Google has different goals for a phone than Samsung does. And Samsung doesnt want phones to compete with the GalaxyS. It CERTAINLY doesn't want the GNex to prove that Ti's competing SoC can compete with Samsung's home-grown Exynos.

So if Google's only GPU requirement was that it handle drawing 720p and UI hardware acceleration well enough, then Sammy's not going to throw in a Mali if the SGX540 works for Google's demands.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
I'm not sure if the chips are to fully blame. The Galaxy Nexus runs pretty well on ICS. But I'm seeing lots of lag with other devices running ICS too... namely the Xoom. My co-worker has the xoom and was pretty speedy on 3.2 Honeycomb. Now on ICS 4.0.3, it's a little laggy on the homescreen too (actually really bad). Of course the Xoom is a Tegra 2 chipset which has a pretty powerful GPU. Could it prehaps just be a result of a early Android build? Seems this is a trend. Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, and now ICS... all seem to have speed performance problems out of the gate.

I think the Galaxy Nexus can hold its own as a serious contender amoung other phones on the market because I haven't seen any that run smoothly. I've HEARD the Galaxy S runs ICS pretty well... which doesn't make sense because we have a faster chip and an higher clocked GPU... so it would only make sense that it is a software issue.

I also didn't hear anyone comment on the 512mhz GPU Overclock by morific. Anyone testing on that?

As far as games, the Nexus is fine. I play MC3 and Order and Chaos all which play flawlessly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
But doesn't Google choose all the parts, regardless of manufacturer for a Nexus phone? That's what I've been led to believe.

Google chooses the parts, and the chosen OEM's just assemble the parts and make the chassis. I don't believe that any of the OEM's have any say in what goes into a Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gkitab:
I wonder how it would handle a live wallpaper of yourself dancing around with your nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
The Tegra2 is (imo) a horrible SoC. I still don't get why people thought so highly of it. Tegra3 is great, but the gpu on the Tegra2 is no better than the SGX540 in our Nexus (nor frankly much better than the lower clocked SGX540 in the GalaxyS). I had a Xoom for a couple weeks and returned it within the best buy return period because of the poor performance. If it's even worse after Android 4.0's improvements, then that should be the final example for me that the Tegra2 sucks and is outperformed by older SoC's.

From my understanding (I believe either Ars or Ananadtech had a writeup on this), Google sends out an RFP stating what specs they want to see in a device. Then manufacturers respond with their proposals. So in the case of the GNex, they presumably wanted a buttonless, higher resolution device that could perform at a set minimum speed (30fps), that incorporated NFC, a front facing camera, and a 0-shutter-lag lens. I just base this off of the features that ICS introduced that Google wanted to show off.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
I don't remember any articles relating to this though, but I do remember the quote where Google said they huddle together in a building for a couple of months to hash out hardware and software and release it. Besides, I don't see what the 4460 has over the Exynos 4410 in any way. Both have dual-channel memory, both can readily run at 1.2GHz (Note even goes to 1.4GHz). And the Exynos is also a pretty mature platform, with the SGS2 released many many months before the release of the GNex :)

Not hating or anything, but I like healthy discussions like this :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Manya3084:
Google's flag ship phone is the nexus galaxy, samsung's is the gx2. People forget quite quickly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
It's cool!

Ok, so my theory on their SoC choice is that Google is trying to expand the AOSP code base to support more manufacturers. They may have specifically requested the TI OMAP be used in their RFP, but who knows? What does seem clear is that with each Nexus they have gone with a different SoC. It seems logical at this point that it's not just a coincidence, but intentional. Especially in the case of the Galaxy Nexus.

I can't fathom a reason why Samsung would propose to use the competition's SoC unless that's what was asked for in the RFP. As you mentioned, the Exynos is mature and performs *quite* admirably. But, the Exynos is an evolution of the Hummingbird from the NexusS. So, if Samsung is going to use a competing SoC, it behooves Samsung to not make the competition's SoC look too good. Pairing it with an older GPU which meets the minimum standards that Google is looking for would allow Samsung to meet Google's goals, without propping up a competitors SoC at the same time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Livewings:
GNex is a good phone. I would have gotten the GNex if it wasn't for the measly GPU.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
Makes sense, but then we have the Nexus S and the S1, with both sharing the exact same SoC, Both are 1GHz Cortex-A8 (Hummingbird) with a SGX540@200MHz. Granted the Nexus S DID get released first, but that should mean that Samsung would've chosen something better for their own Galaxy S1 which was released like 6-8 months after the Nexus S? Like a reverse of the GNex and S2 really :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pachi72:
I think the reason why Google and Samsung chose the Ti Soc over the EXYNOS was cause Ti supported pentaband with LTE..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sneakysolidbake:
Lol no. Galaxy s came before nexus s.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
The Samsung Galaxy S was released around March internationally, and the Vibrant was the first American one to go on sale around July 15. The Nexus S didnt come out for another 5 months.

What I'm thinking is that Google directly wants to support a wider variety of chipset manufacturers under the AOSP tree. So with the Nexus One they coded towards the Snapdragon 1. With the Nexus S they coded towards the Hummingbird (the Hummingbird has actually now been renamed as a lower model Exynos). With the Xoom they coded towards Nvidia's Tegra. And the Gnex is working towards TI's OMAP series.

In some cases (like the Snapdragon and the Hummingbird) Google chose SoC's which were already on the market, but they didn't have direct experience with. In the cases of the OMAP and Tegra2, they chose SoCs that hadn't yet hit the market. In all cases, they've chosen 4 different SoCs with 4 different Nexus releases (including Xoom for Honeycomb).

I'm not totally clear on their endgame, but I have a feeling it has to do with opening up more handsets to being able to run AOSP, and thus to eventually reduce manufacturer and carrier control. Eventually.

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Good point on the pentaband. While LTE support is a bolt-on (ie, a separate radio) it's possible that Ti's chipset was the only one with pentaband HSPA+ support, as well as being good enough for LTE work as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
Isn't only the GSM version pentaband, and the LTE/CDMA version not?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] j.go:
In my opinion, google made a mistake using the hummingbird as the cpu on their previous reference phone. From a google point of view, you would want to design your OS around hardware that is available to other manufacturers. The hummingbird is used on samsung phones only, which kind of defeats the point of having a reference phone. But with google using an off-the-shelf CPU, other manufacturers could take the easY route and stick TI OMAP 4 on their phones and be confident that the OS was designed for that CPU. If google had used the Exynos, besides the issues with LTE, other manufacturers wouldn't really benefit from the "reference phone."

Which is probably why they also went with a 2 year old GPU. The reference phone shouldn't be at the top of the heap in terms of performance because, again, from google's point of view, you want Android on as many handsets as possible. If you limit the OS to the hardware cream of the crop, you would be severely limiting the propagation of your latest and greatest OS and hence, google's revenue stream.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
yes, but it would probably make building for a single SoC easier, rather than having say, a TI OMAP in the HSPA+ phone, and a Qualcomm SoC in the LTE version.

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Frankly that had crossed my mind as well and I tend to agree!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LuffyPSP:
haha this! :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChongoDroid:
Cool story

Sent from my Google phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dinan:
What? Are you saying the Nexus S came out before the original Galaxy S?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] king23adrianc:
In the running services, do you guys experience 2 processes in and 1 service which takes up 20-30mb?

when i click inside, it showing android keyboard and android core apps. Why is android core apps being there? it didn't show up in previous OS, is it just my phone or the new ICS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] king23adrianc:
anyone can help ??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] El Daddy:
It reads 1 process and 1 service on mine. 17mb
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] texiandave:
Ditto, 1 + 1, 17mb
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tigajr:
English is not my native language.

Android keyboard needs a

maximum

of two process: the keyb. app and a some core functions like dictionaries and voice typing, for example. Some users only see one process because they are not using specific functions at that moment.

ICS and your Galaxy Nexus are working as designed. Mine, at this moment, are using 22mb with 2 proc and 1 service.
[Epic 4G Apps] samsungepicgeek:
Does anyone know how to get the Action Movie FX app (like on the iPhone) or any app similar :confused:
[Epic 4G Apps] ÜBER™:
When asking for something never include "like the iPhone"...

Easiest way for trolls to flame you or for people who dispise the iPhone to talk crap. Hopefully you find what your looking for. :D

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/Biggoron3.png

Sent From My Cyan Samurai
[Epic 4G Apps] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I keep accidentally hitting the thanks button today... ics has an app like this

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[Epic 4G Apps] younggangsta_s:
What is it called?
[Epic 4G Apps] wyattn:
Its called movie studio but I don't know if it works like that (currently crashing on the only ics alpha device I have ).
[Epic 4G Apps] darkierawr:
There's the Samsung Video Editor for the Galaxy line.

Haven't tried it but good luck!
[Epic 4G Apps] K3VlN:
I know what he is talking about my nephew has that app on his crypod touch the app is pretty sweet actually...you can take picsor vids then add movie effects to them like having a missle flyin and blow **** up lol makes me laugh. anyway

Haven't seen anything like it anywhere around the android community but maybe the dev of that app might make a version for us
[Epic 4G Apps] MДЯCЦSДИT:
That app *should* work on the epic on touchwiz roms.
[Epic 4G Apps] Omya:
try Ultimate Special Fx
[Epic 4G Apps] janusz85:
Try should try this app on Android market:

Big Bang - Movie Booth
[Epic 4G Apps] jeffreyjicha:
Like Omya said, Ultimate Special Fx
[Epic 4G Apps] shoguevara:
Epic Movie FX.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] habylab:
Is this possible? I use it for browsing the internet and general tablet, but can you turn off the screen when just watching or not using the transformer? Was wondering if this was possible at all.

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[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrevankyle:
i believe that the youtube app has that function as well as the google movies app but i dont think anything else does it. You would have to ask the app dev to include the feature
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] habylab:
Surely some kind of app or mid can achieve this?

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] patrick1989x:
Hi!

I noticed that you must hold RAZR really firmly, nearly rock solid to take sharp photo. If your hand tremble a bit, you going get blury photo.

I think that is software issue. Like tooking picture to slow or something.

Is there any way to improve it (MOD or App)?

I won't buy stand for RAZR to take sharp pics. :mad:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Citruspers:
You'll need a faster shutter speed, the camera defaults to a low shutter speed to keep the ISO down (increasing the ISO increases the noise in the picture).

Sadly, I haven't found any apps that can control the shutter speed yet. Your chances are better with a lot of light, though!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] patrick1989x:
It's not satisfiying for me. Tell me... There are chances to improve it in future, or camera hardware isn't good?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] p_vhd:
I use Camera Zoom FX instead of the camera. It's got an option for stabilizing the camera while taking the shot. Plus, I feel like the picture quality sounds better compared to the ones taken by the stock camera application.

Give it a try.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] patrick1989x:
Okay. Thanks.

I'll check it out ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Papapau:
Been using Camera Zoom FX too. Great replacement for stock camera so far, but in terms of Video capture, I would suggest for the default app in order to use HD capture..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] majin_vegeta:
hi

i just wanted to ask what is one to do when he/she wants to remove symlinks from a rom before installing, for example with some sense 3.0/3.5 roms part of the rom is symlinked to sd-ext, what steps do i need to take to remove some or all of these symlinks before installing the rom.

thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRSolebum:
To remove the symlinks you need to move the files in the Roms Zip back to their original place and rename them to back to the original name.

For example:

SD-Ext/app-s => System/app

Plus you need to remove the symlinks from the updater-script.