yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android General] Alucard400:
I had a talk with a rep and they analyzed my account history going back year and saw each time when i put my simcard into another phone. I did this with different phones But they identified it as just one particular phone which obviously means they dont know all details of knowing if a smartphone is using data service. They knew the latest phone I used, but not the previous two. I am guessing they have something else that allows them to identify a phone
[Android General] dkotoric:
anyone still using a Nexus 4 on midianet

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Android General] paperWastage:
tl;dr of the previous few pages, nexus 4 users will most likely be caught (depending on your luck and the system's sweeps)

actually, this probably points to their IMEI database...

on all of your "non-at&t" smartphones, there most likely isn't any AT&T crapware on them (like AT&T apps trying to call home)...

so it must have been something else (could be Google Play app calling to AT&T for billing).... but if you set up the phones similarly (google accounts, sync to gmail/google play), then all the phones should have been caught the same way (or it might have been at&t selectively looking for those apps/connections)
[Android General] Alucard400:
I was thinking somewhat similar. More of through Amazon. Which can tell what phone you use just by downloading and installing their app store on your phone. What really happened with the REP, he told me I put my sim into an HTC Amaze in September, August, and also March. Weird thing is, I did not have my Amaze until just September when I bought it in cowboom. My previous phone before the amaze was an HTC G2.
[Android General] tai9588:
Hi guys I am a first time poster but been a lurker for awhile. I am currently debating on jumping the media net plan because I know a guy who is selling his international note 2 gt-n7100 for 500 brand new. Not sure if the media net plan still works with the phone so wanted to get some input as I can tell that it is still working from reading past post. My other question is would I be able to get att's 4g LTE if I get bumped into a tiered data plan? Any input would be great. Thanks.

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Well did a little research on the network bands of the international and it will not support lte. Is 500 for the international a good deal?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
$500 is a good price, but it won't work with MEdia Net.
[Android General] paperWastage:
well, google play tells me that my amaze 4G is a "HTC Amaze 4G"

but this phone that I'm testing right now (will post the name after my billing cycle ends) is labeled "AT&T <phone name>", even though that phone(or any of it's cousins) is never sold through at&t

EDIT: Amazon just says "<manufacturer> <phone name>" for this phone
[Android General] tai9588:
Darn, I guess they finally got the imei for them now. Thanks for the reply. Probably just get the att version then.
[Android General] Ronzalpha:
My unlocked T-mobile Galaxy Note II just got stolen today. Is there a way to blacklist it across all GSM carriers? I already blacklisted it on ATT. Will they share it with t-mobile and their affiliate, Metro PCS?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
TMobile and AT&T are going to share their blacklists. You should report it to T-Mobile just to be sure.
[Android General] Zaiaku:
Samsung Galaxy Note II n7100 had it for almost a month now. Bill cycle has already started over. Still using it on medianet. Works great. Still shows up as a dumbphone on the site. No change in bill yet.
[Android General] joecool1029:
Looks like the end of an era for Sony phones. Xperia U picked up. Bastards.

EDIT: FYI, Neo V and Arc still ok. Looks like the 2012 line is in jeopardy.

EDIT2: Would love it if anyone else on 2012 line can report. I'm looking to buy a LT28h Xperia Ion, but now I'm wary and might hold off.
[Android General] Ronzalpha:
The Xperia Ion is exclusive to ATT, so it would get flagged immediately. The international equivalent is the Sony Xperia S, but since you said your Xperia U was flagged, it's risky. Or maybe it was just your particular Xperia U that was flagged? I can confirm that my Arc S is still working fine so far.
[Android General] sucsss:
well. that sucks. I was looking into the sony line.
[Android General] Garen21:
Does it matter what phone's IMEI I give? I mean will it have an effect on the data speeds I get? Because my phone has the bands for at&t 4g (not LTE) but the phone which IMEI I'm going to give is like 2G probably
[Android General] joecool1029:
1. The Ion I mentioned is specifically the LT28h which is sold as the international ion, it does not support LTE (and neither does the medianet plan). The AT&T model is the LT28at. I'm aware of the Xperia S.

2. The Arc S is a 2010 line phone, as far as I can tell the 2010 sony ericsson phones are all unflagged still. 2009 is probably safe too (minus the big X10, I used an X10 mini pro forever on this plan)

If you're in this thread, you shouldn't be considering LTE. The MediaNet plan will not allow access to that network on the wap.cingular gateway.
[Android General] paperWastage:
the IMEI you give to the customer representative doesn't matter...

once you put the AT&T sim card in the phone, at&t's network will see that phone's IMEI number and record it

then, depending on when the sweeps in the AT&T system happen, your IMEI number will be flagged (if it's in their database), and you'll get a text message saying "Smartphones need data plan... here's one that we put in automatically for you"
[Android General] shsplaying:
Let me share.

Hello All. I just want to share my recent experience.

I've been using international version phones such as Sony Neo V, LG P920 (Optimus 3D), HTC G1, and ViewPad 7.

A month ago, I had an upgrade eligibility, and used it for 'iphone 5 upgrade'. After I was done with playing 'iphone 5', I wanted to move onto my new 'Xperia S' with the dumb phone data.

I went to ATT store, and asked for a new SIM to use on Xperia S. The store rep asked me for the IMEI of a dumb phone since I asked her to remove the data plan from my line. I told her I didn't have it, and I could come back with IMEI, but she said she could put the dummy imei (i.e. 1111111111111) So she took out the data plan, I've left the store happy.

I got home, I added the 'unlimited data for dumb phone' from OLAM, and inserted the new SIM to Xperia S. Everything seemed ok for about 10 hours, and received a txt msg which basically saying my phone got flagged. I couldn't believe Xperia S got flagged.

A few hours later, I called ATT, and asked the rep to remove the data plan from my line. She asked for IMEI of a dumb phone, and I GAVE HER THE IMEI OF XPERIA S. I told her it's a dumb phone from China, and asked her to see if IMEI is ok, because some people said this phone recognized as smartphone sometimes (I made this up to see if she could tell the IMEI is from a smartphone/Xperia S)

A moment later, she said IMEI seems ok (the system took it, and didn't recognized it as smartphone IMEI).

*As you all know, ATT cant verify IMEI is good or bad. All they can tell is if it's a smartphone IMEI or not (if IMEI is in their DB).

After hung up, I added the dumb phone data again from OLAM, and inserted SIM again into Xperia S. It's been 8 days, so far so good.

For those who have been flagged lately, consider this.

*OLAM detects your phone's IMEI, and reflects the phone model in OLAM screen if recognized, but the IMEI stored in your account could be different.

It seems like ATT now checks if those two IMEIs match or not (IMEI detected vs. IMEI stored in account), if they don't match and you have data activity, ATT considers you upgraded to a smartphone, and adds the 3GB data plan to your line.

For ATT, if ATT accidentally adds the plan, customers complain, and the plan will be removed. for those who don't notice the change in the bill will just pay more money, and more income for ATT. I think it's their "nothing to loose" action to increase the sales, and avoid people like us. :cool:
[Android General] Alucard400:
Very interesting. Give us another update in one week? Much appreciated
[Android General] orijin:
sent you a pm!
[Android General] yw2012:
This is very good observation. Here's my experience:

I have been switching cellphones left and right from international phones to t-mobile ones. Everytime i got flagged was around 1 -2 days after the cycle ends. Then i would pop the sim card into my dumbphone (i have one laying around as backup) and called ATT to remove the dataplan and put the nonsmartphone data back on. I do give my dumbphone's IMEI number. Then after i confirmed that the nonsmartphone data is back on, i pull out the sim and put it back into my international phones and it will usually go undetected until the cycle ends. I am not sure if they do compare the imei number i gave them vs the imei number of the phone that i am actually using, but it is not an invalid hypothesis.
[Android General] joshyth:
Lte actually got here couple week ago, and I'm really itching to give it a go. I'm actually thinking about just paying for the data pro 3gb and be done with it. I will see how long my note 2 will last on this plan, then I will be getting a phone with lte...

No iPhone though, can't get use to the small screen anymore.
[Android General] dkotoric:
is anyone still using a nexus 4 on medianet, i have a brand new one coming from google today and i just want to know if i should even bother switching to medianet

Sent from my iPhone 5
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
Everyone with the private list should look at the Apple, Samsung, and Motorola sections. I made three notable additions.
[Android General] dkotoric:
whats a private list? dis i miss something

Sent from my iPhone 5
[Android General] jcash74:
Pm me and I'll send it to you.

The device in black
[Android General] airhead34:
thanks

Hi, just wanted to say thanks for this thread, its a been a happy revelation since I lost my dumbphone in a snow bank today and realized that most of the other dumbphone devices out there today are crap.

Now, I'm seeing these notes about a private list and would someone out there be willing to PM it to me?

thanks again!
[Android General] snekiam:
I would like this "private list" as well, as I will be switching to this plan when my contract ends with sprint in march.
[Android General] Alucard400:
Any new members could be an AT&T rep :/
[Android General] sumeet909:
Me too.
[Android General] Alaq:
Does anyone still know if the Rogers Razr XT910 still works on Medianet?
[Android General] chrism.brunner:
I'm not sure about the Razr, but I have three Rogers phones, and all three are working fine.
[Android General] Mervingio:
x2 :confused:
[Android General] jcash74:
Sorry about the delay list has been sent to everyone.
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I can confirm that the Canadian Note II i317m is flagged.

Thanks man!
[Android General] Alaq:
Hey man good to see ya.... Thanks for the info...
[Android General] chrism.brunner:
You too. Been a while. Just way too busy.
[Android General] madquack:
I've been using a gsm GNex for the past few months, it seems like I always get flagged exactly 1-2 days before my bill is due. Past 3 months it has been like this. I don't think it is anything substantial as far as a pattern goes. Will report next month if it happens again.
[Android General] Mervingio:
I need one Sir!
[Android General] joecool1029:
Wow we're screwed. My venerable T-Mobile HTC HD2 just got flagged. I've had this phone on the service for over 2 years now without issue. T-Mobile must be sharing their smartphone list now.

Probably gonna dump AT&T in a couple days and switch to an MVNO. This blows.

EDIT: I nuked 2 of my 5 lines. The HD2 is showing up as an inspire so I put a gophone on for now and gave them the IMEI, will see if it reflags in a day or so now since I have a new IMEI regged to it. The Arc and Neo V still appear safe. Gonna try the Xperia U on another line of mine to see if it reflags again (it doesn't actually show up as a phone in the system, just forces me off medianet).

The HD2 getting kicked is some real BS though, it's an EDGE only phone. Looks like it'll be bon voyage and back to t-mo soon.
[Android General] Dsouth407:
Is this how I can pm you? I'm really interested at acquiring that list of compatible devices for medianet. My email backham95@gmail.com..... Thank you, Alan.
[Android General] bbyou123:
need a list too

Please send me a list. Thank youp
[Android General] dkappaman:
any older phones on that list? My parents are currently using the iphone 3gs but they hate paying for data seeing as they never use it.

would love to get them off the data plan, but they really cant spend that much on an unlocked phone.

can anyone send me the list as well

thanks!

:good:
[Android General] misterrager:
my thread search isn't working but both my xperia P's got flagged today... :(:(:(
[Android General] jcash74:
List sent again. I did not send to people with 0 posts.
[Android General] soorma:
Xperia S got tagged today!
[Android General] dkappaman:
what about people with 1 post, LOL? do I have to go post in other threads just to get the list?

I have other posts on Hofo, just somewhat new here.
[Android General] yw2012:
Wow even xperia s got tagged? Damn... That really sucks ... I was thinking of switching to it too. Guess I have to reconsider.
[Android General] soorma:
I know man, there goes my mediaNet. So, if a phone that not many people use on AT&T gets tagged, I think our days are coming to an end :(
[Android General] joecool1029:
Well, just purchased a HSPA Xperia Ion (LT28h). It's pentaband! Wish me luck, doing this for the greater good.

I'm using speakout (7-eleven's rogers reseller in soviet canuckistan) for $10/month 2gb data so I need the 850/1900 bands when I'm up there. If my HD2 flags again after today and/or the new Ion flags, I will go to the T-Mobile/Wal-Mart $30/plan for 5gb/data and tell AT&T to suck a bag of dicks (paying ~$35/line for medianet service already).

OH WELL, LETS DO THIS.
[Android General] inurb:
This is my experience on my Galaxy Note as well. I have an unlocked international note and every 27th of the month they do a sweep and I get the text and email from at&t saying "we hope you are enjoying your smartphone..." I've been using $10 medianet for 7+ years and this just started happening back in october of 2012. I found a way around this by simply putting my SIM into an at&t branded dumb phone like a rugby on the 26th of the month. Then on the 27th I receive no texts from AT&T. Then on the 28th I swap my SIM back into my Note and I'm good for another month.

I noticed that my billing cycle is right around the same time the sweep happens. So they probably have an automated system sweep such as you described that does an IMEI check based on what your account has. When it doesn't match it assumes you have a smartphone. Crappy logic there but I will deal with it as I'm saving a bunch on unlimited data. I barely even use 500MB a month so I think $10 a month is reasonable.
[Android General] mymellowman:
HOX flagged - twice in one day.
[Android General] joshyth:
well, it's not looking good for everyone.

Got my nexus 4 couple weeks ago, and tmobile coverage is just terrible, so I gave that line to my gf.

hopefully, i will be good on medianet plan for seven more month till my contract end, get a lte phone, and call it a day.
[Android General] Alucard400:
I thought MRMischief asked the list not to be given out to new members and people who have one posts? how do we know the new members are not AT&T reps?
[Android General] sucsss:
because ATT reps have better things to do than to troll a single thread.
[Android General] brucedeluxe169:
can anyone with access send me the private list? I've been active on this thread before, reporting various phones

thanks
[Android General] sumeet909:
Re: [GUIDE][10-31-2012] List of phones compatible with ATT Family/MediaNet Plan

Radar 4G has been outed as well. Concurrent with the person posting about HD2, it seems like Windows Mobile devices have been added to this list.

Question: Is it possible to add data block and still use these devices in wifi only mode? Or would they still add data plans to them?

Also, please send me the list anyone?

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They use Google all the time. Tech support has tried to solve my problems using forums. My 1st Infuse 4G had gps problems, they goggled and recommended a solution, when I inquired about the source, the Rep said "XDA".

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Any more comments about this? So you think if I call them up and register the IMEI of my smartphone, they won't flag me? ? I highly doubt it because my WP7 device just got flagged this week.
[Android General] azncber:
If the IMEI is shown as a smartphone on their database then that wouldn't help. They would still flag it. It just depends on the phone.
[Android General] sumeet909:
Steps:

1) Root Samsung Android Device

2) Buy and Install Root Explorer

3) Browse to the EFS folder

4) Backup all contents to cloud/email/pc/mac

5) Delete all contents of EFS folder

6) Reboot

7) Enjoy any type of data plan
[Android General] littleman29:
Optimus 2x AT&T?

Hey, do you guys know if the LG Optimus 2x (p990 international quad-band version) is registered as a smartphone? Could I buy this unlocked and not have to pay for a data plan? I used to use the i5500 and I didn't have to pay for a data plan. I bought an unlocked Captivate, but that phone's IMEI is registered as a smartphone (because the phone is subsidized).

The i5500 (Samsung galaxy 5) is also fine to use with the media net data plan by the way. :)
[Android General] 151max:
Thanks for posting, summet. Would not having the original imei stop you from using your phone normally in any way on AT&T? For example, does 3G work, can you still access the android market?
[Android General] dkotoric:
would this work on att branded Samsung phones as well such as the Samsung Infuse or GS2 or Skyrocket ?

Also what about Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus since they are also Samsung phones
[Android General] hp79:
Does using tethering (within a reasonable limit, for example, total 2GB/month) higher the chance of being caught using medianet on a smartphone?

I'm deciding whether I want to add the medianet for $15 per month or just use my phone without any dataplan at all since I have wifi everywhere. When I had dataplan, I used 100MB/month with a $15/200MB/month plan.
[Android General] stumpyz9:
Not at all with regular use i get like 3gbs and no one has said anything
[Android General] sk337sk337:
Both versions of the galaxy note have no problems with media net; I'm currently running the LTE version from Rogers for $10 a month. Galaxy Nexus I do not know.

1). Just order a sim card only. No contract and you can also easily get the activation fee's waived.

2). See answer 1.

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I know for a fact the T-mobile version of the phone doesn't have any problems with media net but it's more of a guess with the each version of the phone.
[Android General] sumeet909:
3G works and so does the market. However, these generic IMEIs are blocked in many countries. So, if you plan to travel abroad and use local SIM cards there, restore EFS folder before you go.

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All Samsung devices including tablets.

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Hmm....Note LTE from Rogers....sounds tempting. So, you get LTE signal with AT&T Medianet?

Have you tried tethering and ticketed by AT&T anti-tether unit?
[Android General] sumeet909:
Good to know. I think AT&T branded phones are being ticketed for tethering.
[Android General] dkotoric:
Oooh hell yes, wish I knew this before, I spent the longest time trying to find my wife a cheap android phone she could use on the MediaNet plan where I could have just bought her a captivate.
[Android General] sk337sk337:
No LTE in my area or anywhere close. I doubt it would get LTE since the LTE apn is different than MediaNet.
[Android General] sumeet909:
Also, many T-Mobile phones get AT&T 3/4G signals and work fine with AT&T as well.
[Android General] Mortalitas:
Just to clairify, you can use any att branded samsung Andriod device on the media net plan, if you were to convert to a generic IMEI?
[Android General] sumeet909:
Yup. Note sure if IMEI tinkering is legal though. Possible and easy: YES!

Legal: not sure!

Some people attribute it to changing license plate on car. Others, think of it as changing face plate on the phone. Car <> (not equal to) Phone.

If you have AT&T subsidized Captivate and don't want to change IMEI, you can exchange it on Craigslist for T-Mobile equivalent (has ATT 3g bands) and unlock it.

FYI - T-Mobile phones have less resale value than AT&T phones, it is an easy trade. People don't know that most T-Mobile phones get 3g/4g after unlocking and newer AT&T phones get T-Mobile 4G after flashing modems/kernels. Manufacturers these days make one chip and lock it down at the software level.
[Android General] dkotoric:
can anyone with a galaxy note n7000 post their apn settings, im not able to receive mms and i think its because of my apn settings

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Android General] Dark lord me:
Just pointing out but there is no Titan's available in Canada so i think you have to get a european one
[Android General] BuildUpNow:
So I can use my inspire 4g and change the IMEI number to my daughter's old Z331 and she can use the inspire 4g with her medianet data plan?
[Android General] ckong1:
has anyone tried international HTC one X on medianet?
[Android General] 151max:
It seems that hack only works for some Samsung phones.
[Android General] dkotoric:
no reason it shouldn't

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Android General] pookeyster:
any updates from ppl who had re-added the medianet plan after being flagged? the exhibit II 4g from tmobile was being detected as an htc smartphone for some reason...was able to add data block, then changed to medianet on the website shortly after.
[Android General] Alucard400:
From what the posts on this thread suggest, T mobile phone are no longer safe as At&T acquired the IMEI database from t mobile's phones.
[Android General] bedwa:
I've had the best success myself when not using SMS through their system and removing ALL other data from the APN except wap.cingular at the top. I think some phones report info through the proxy or MMS pathways. I had a rezound that got pegged w/ a proxy, but not without.

BTW. Could I also get that list?