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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MHoefler:
Has it ever occurred to you that Gary might not be in the position to tell the exact truth here? Nobody knows what role he really plays, if her really works for Asus (and if yes, if he's in a position to know anything at all) and if he's not just around to smooth the waves a bit - after all when the new models come out in a few weeks or months, people will have calmed down anyways.

Just because some "Gary" says something, this does not mean I'll believe it. Even if he really works for Asus - after what they are pulling off with the Prime, I'd not trust anybody of them. They will not tell the truth here if they feel it might hurt their business. After all, what "Gary" claimed is illogical and does not makes sense at all. They would be stupid to continue to produce faulty devices if the fix is so easy (just a plastic part of the back cover). The production lines are already set for the new design, as we saw in the demonstration of the TF700, so I bet the "new" TF201 will be fixed. Anything else would be plain stupid!

Regards!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
More and more.. you are coming off as "prime" evangelist each day. You really need to drop "it isn't honest opinion if it is negative" & "i represent the majority" perspective as well.

If you like your Prime, be happy with it. Why do you care about the "image" of Prime and continue to "TROLL" every thread in this forum to praise Prime? Some just do not share your perspective.. I hope you can "ACCEPT" that fact at some point in your constant "trolling".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gogol:
Hahaha ... Good luck with your design flawed Prime :)

I am back to my GN.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>The production lines are already set for the new design, as we saw in the demonstration of the TF700, so I bet the "new" TF201 will be fixed.

This sounds sensible, but incurs a liability problem, in that it tacitly admits the og design is faulty. Asus would then be liable for the fault, and can be sued if it doesn't offer a fix for the Primes already sold. If you think people are upset now because of the "fixed" TF700 in 4-5 months, think of their reaction if there were a fixed TF201 coming out now.

Asus has already implemented the solution: Leave the TF201 as-is, and implement the changes in the next model (TF700). Apple didn't change the iPhone 4's production midstream either.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
you might as well give it a rest. You the only trolling. every time you try to counter my quotes, you dumber n dumber to me. Why are you always stalking me? Are you a funny bunny or something. I just noticed that. you always stalking my posts talking out your a=& get a life n get your rep up like I told you before. You more of a parasite stalker. Always respond to my stuff with nothing helpful ever to anyone.

don't make me have to report you for constantly trolling and stalking me
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Well, isn't that funny? More or less, I only posted threads that were dealing with GPS. You don't care about GPS.. so.. why do you continue to make post and leave comments in such section?

And really? I made "factual" statements with source (such as Kindle fire only costing $200), and as a dev(not android).. I made a comment that "you can't fix a h/w issue with s/w".. thus, if GPS is important, YOU should either return it or wait for other alternative.

However, you continue to make statements:

1.) Asus made a comment that they will continue to support GPS with s/w updates (seriously.. Gary Key.. chime in if Asus made such statement)

2.) Continue to degrade TF700t & 7in. Memo tegra 3 processor.... in order for ppl to either purchase Prime, or KEEP PRIME

3.) Your stance on GPS went like this:

a.) only a handful are having GPS issues

b.) why do you need GPS anyways? ipad 2 doesn't have it so don't bother with it

c.) oh.. See, Asus announces that metal backplate is the issue

d.) Prime is the Greatest... I got in contact with Asus rep.. and this is what will happen.. blah blah blah

Seriously, you don't care about GPS according to you... WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO TROLL threads that has no effect on you? Or why even bother to post as if you are the official ASUS REP?

Oh, and.. seriously.... your assumptions & your thoughts aren't FACTS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thomslik:
My thoughts exactly.

If this thread was intended to support Asus and the Prime, I think it may have backfired. All the OP has resolved here, if one were to believe him, is that the company is run by total idiots. Accordingly, we can expect the new model to be just as defective as the current T201, since neither perform to acceptable standards for an android tablet. This is implausible except for the fact that they have managed to botch the launches of both current Transformers. Perhaps it's a company tradition and the TF700 release will be just as bad or worse!

Live and learn, or just live........for a little while.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdelliott31:
Well shut my mouth!!!!! Lol. One time when I don't read the entire thread......

Mines in on RMA, but I was ok for how mine worked overall. I'm more upset about apps like Hbogo, Nba Gametime, stuff like that not working. The HhGregg thing bothered me more than anything just because of the price change. It sounds like an error. ICS worked fine for me, speedy even. Camera quality was great. I just had light bleed and a chip that messed with the screen. Gps things locked but I didn't take for a drive so it is probably valid.

I couldn't use this for GPS anyway, but am a believer that if we the consumer have to hold companies accountable for what they promise on an item. I question Asus ethics seriously when they admit there is a problem and their solution is to remove advertising from the box.

I've been emailing with a Frank C. Regarding my RMA status and here is his statement.

Dear Valued Customer,

We can issue RMA for missing metal however can you please let us know if GPS works with WiFi connection? Please note this unit is equipped with whats called "Assisted GPS" functionality which requires connection to Wifi network in order to acquire location information. If GPS works ok with WiFi then the GPS is ok.

Thank you,

Frank C.

ASUS Product Support

Toll Free: (888) 678-3688

Essentio Desktop: (877) 339-2787

Business Hours: 24/7

To me this is hiding behind semantics and bothers me. However, I know when it cons back I can keep or sell or return and I am leaning towards keeping. But if I do get rid of despite Asus being somewhat ahead of the game, I would not purchase from them alone, strictly out of trust issues. especially seeing the new TF 700 with a new back panel and Asus admitting to guilt.

This all will play out in the coming weeks. Good luck to all.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
Why can't people who don't even have the Prime, not even tried it just can't shut the **** up.

I had a Prime, returned it because of backlight bleeding and hoping to get a new one. Really liked it and had no problems except for the backlight ofcourse lol (it saw satellites 10 satellites btw, however I won't navigate with it so I don't care).

It really is a nice device, maybe the GPS isn't too strong, but that isn't really a deal breaker for most people, and if they decide to live with it just let them? Go trolling in another forum or make your own "We Jelly@Prime so hate it!" forum. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jrwingate6:
I keep seeing people say that the plastic strip on top of the 700 is because it is a 3G tablet. It is not a 3G tablet. I'm not saying they aren't going to make a 3G model but the 700 which is WiFi only will hit the market first and the 3G model (if they make one) will have a different model number such as 701. The plastic strip at the top of the new prime is their answer to faulty WiFi and GPS. They realize what problems the all metal back caused so they did what they had to do with the new Prime. It will have much better WiFi than the OG Prime as that is what it was designed to do. Just live with the fact that the new Prime being released in 4 months will be better than the current prime. I realize there will always be something better coming out but if you want a the tablet with the best keyboard dock available, the NEW and IMPROVED Prime will be the tablet to have and this forum for the OG Prime will dwindle since nobody wants the buggy red headed step child.

To the OP, it is apparent you are just trying to justify keeping your OG Prime. The new one is going to have better WiFi and a better display. God only knows what other tweaks will be made to make it better. Maybe 2 gigs of Ram. Just deal with the fact that the new Prime is what the OG Prime should have been.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Heerocon:
I feel like if all the models of the prime were released at the same time, no one would be making these assumptions. Imagine it: Asus releases 3 tablets of varying performance and people buy the ones they want. The tf201 leaves a little to be desired in some spots so anyone with issues about how that will affect their use could buy the tf700t. Errybodys happeh.

You see, you have no idea what Asus is going to do. You DON'T know how they'll market the new prime, you DON'T know if they're going to discontinue the tf201 and you certainly DON'T know what you're talking about.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
IM done with you, point blank. you obviously aren't helpful at all to anyone as proof of your noobish thanks meter. I wont report you but I will ignore you. that will stop your trolling n stalking. thats for shinn

For the other guy, this wasn't to make says look good. it was just to release info I found out. if you to ignorant to realize that then oh well. I could care less what others think or believe. As long as in happy with my device IM good.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdelliott31:
It seems that there are a few people, a handful, making a ton of posts against the TFP. That disturbs me as well. As well as those that don't own one being critical. These people should be banned from the forums.

I've tried to keep emotion out of my posts, agreeing with both sides at times but based on how my TFP works and actual facts (Asus statements, or hands on evidence, or prices) I don't understand all the hostility towards each other. Asus isn't paying us to be advocates for them. As well other companies arnt paying us to bash Asus, right?

One persons garbage is another's treasure....

I look at the fire sales on the once 600.00 HP Touchpad that occurred in the fall of 2011. They were what 99.00? Even now on EBay they have leveled off in the 250.00 range. And this thing has no rear camera and is on a basically dead OS.

If those (maybe even me) who are unhappy, there will be a market to dump the TFP, lick the wounds and move on. Unless there is obvious problems or just general dislike, then we are going to have to give this all more time to play out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ajkid93:
i said if the source is correct i could say i told ya so.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] erisi:
A helpful, respectful question for the OP

I really appreciate your post.

I have a request: would you ask your ASUS contact what his bt version, wifi version and Pad EC version is as reported on the "about phone" page of system settings?

This will help me decide whether I want to RMA or return my tablet.

To you all thathave wifi and bt running together without issues, would you mind posting the same 3 pieces of info?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
There are also "a few people, a handful, making tons of posts" glossing over what are some pretty significant issues. It's a vicious circle of people posting issues followed by a few staunch defenders feeling the need to quash them in an effort to make everything seem fine when, by the sheer number of posts, it obviously isn't. Almost every thread on the TF700, GPS, Wi-Fi, QC, rebooting, BT inteference, et. al., end up the same way - "yes it is, no it isn't, "my Prime's perfect so it must be you," and "my Prime's a POS so it must be you."

The Prime forum works like every other forum on XDA. The tone is set by what people are experiencing with the product. As long as all the issues continue to exist the tone's going to be negative, and there aren't enough fans in the world to change that.

And while I appreciate that via Gary Key Asus is now participating directly in the forum, keep in mind he's by no means objective. His role as a marketer on Asus' payroll is to support Asus' objectives, not to come here and openly admit faults, failings, or any unannounced future product intentions. Where I work we have a team of five Internet Champions that actively engage customers online. Many large companies are now doing the same thing. Their objective is to support our sales goals and to preempt issues and they have a very narrow range of positions they're allowed to comment on. In other words, they work for the house

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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Main reason for most wireless issues and different peoples Prime acting up after ICS. Some people have different firmwares.

Anyways this thread will close soon at my request. This is just info. take it or leave it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ValenteL:
TF201 # TF700T - Differences

TF201

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3179&view=1&c=asus_eee_pad_transformer_prime_tf201_64gb

TF700T

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3299&view=1&c=asus_eee_pad_transformer_prime_tf700t

Only display resolution different:

The 201 --> 1280 x 800

The 700 --> 1920 x 1200
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdelliott31:
You know just a thought, instead of quoting me on one sentence and then rambling on about Internet champions that bigger businesses now follow your model. Try this, Stop, Look, listen. Try looking at things from others perspective. It's like you just want to hear yourself talk. If you read what I said and thought, you'd see that, I'm going off of my tablet alone and I agree and disagree with both sides.

I've read many of your posts and one that suck with me is the one where you go on and on about telling 5 people to buy this only for them to return them for other items. This is where you lost credibility with me. Telling people to buy something you havnt had hands on experience with? Really. I would feel pretty lousy about that. Then coming on here to be critical????? I don't get it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdelliott31:
To be fair.......your reaction to the Manufacturers statement of the back plate being the problem is.......Nananny boo boo? C'mon mannnnnn.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jerdog:
per OP request - closing thread
[Optimus One, P500, V General] nd4spdbh:
hmm that should be all you need.

post up both the ICS lunar build prop and your original.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] AZBoy28:
Hey.

My dad has a Samsung Galaxy Ace (Running Android 2.2) that he would like to use to create a Wifi Hotspot.

I followed the instructions from this Web Page http://www.trickswindows.com/2011/10/how-to-tether-galaxy-ace-gt-s5830-as.html

It came up with the message 'Tethering or hotspot active' which is what I'm supposed to see. I see the Wifi Connection on my Archos 70,

My dad then went to the Browser and tried going on the internet, but it didn't work. Was there something we were suppose to activate?

Thanks
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
What about your 3G ?

Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] AZBoy28:
How do you turn 3G on?

Thanks =)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] QNBT:
Try google next time, it's almost the same for all the androids out there. In ur case it should be located at "settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network", then "data enabled"
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] AZBoy28:
Sorry about that, I'll Google next time =)

Thanks for helping =)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Yep I knew it

*based on my tethering experience*

Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jawbones:
This is BS

I wiped my TF101 & will install nothing until ICS is ready to download

end of message
[Eee Pad Transformer General] finalhit:
cool story bro
[Eee Pad Transformer General] luna_c666:
I did that too, then said "Screw this!" and went back to Krakd..I got a nice ICS background to make me feel better lol.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] luna_c666:
To be fair, when an Asus rep says "It will be out tomorrow as well" that's a little more than a rumor..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] v8code:
Is it within the rules for me to say GROW UP!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] theraffman:
But when its from a completely different region and on facebook id say its legitimacy does not hold water. Now if it was an official announcement then its a little more of a taboo.

My question is why would anyone wipe their device when it was still a day away from the rumored release date... And then complain about the release not happening.

I love our first world problems... Cause there aren't millions of people who are literally starving to death this very evening... I think I can bare to wait a few more weeks for ics

Carry on
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mrevankyle:
Would you all kindly quit your B****ing

There are many threads on this already there does not need to be another one. and also you were perfectly happy with honeycomb before you knew about ICS so why does it matter?

It will come out when it comes out

And if you feel so inclined to have ics NOW there are custom roms already in development which you could go to and maybe even contribute to
[Eee Pad Transformer General] luna_c666:
I don't think you are using that word right...taboo means 'something to be avoided'..

And I didn't think just anyone had access to the Asus facebook page, a post on the Asus FB page IS pretty official in my book..what else would make for 'official'? That is where they told us that the Prime ICS update was coming 2 days early (and it did). I don't get everyone impugning those who BELIEVED a statement on Asus Singapore (BTW, they are closer to the Asus Headquarters than Asus USA, so presumably they would have better insider-info than anyone on the USA FB page IMO).

Asus made the statement, were we supposed to be complete cynics and just go 'That is BS, no it won't"?? They said it was coming out, and then said it wasn't. I don't think it is immature to have believed them. Now, getting upset after the fact, to the point of actual anger, that may be immature and a first-world problem, but it's not like it was a rumor started by an xda user who 'knew a guy who knew a guy', it came straight from someone who worked for Asus.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] KaliKot:
Pointless *****ing wont bring the update either.

The smartest thing to do was to stick with what you have until the update is already rolling out before wiping and stuff.

We'll get what was promised either way, or you can sell your Transformer and get a Xoom
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Rumbleweed:
WOW If you believe this, You need to find a new rock to live under.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] JITucker:
I'm sure he is just venting...lol
[Eee Pad Transformer General] luna_c666:
What crawled inside your butthole? There is no need to be so rude...it wasn't a post from a fan, an official post- honestly now, how many people have access to the Asus FB page? Just any joe-blow that works for Asus can leave messages on their behalf?

Come now, I don't know exactly who the rep was, but I can guarantee he wasn't just an intern and has some rank and seniority at Asus. In other words- what would YOU consider an official announcement? The have to show up at your house with balloons and champagne???

And no, I'm not venting, I'm being reasonable. Venting would require I be upset about something...which I am not..I am not the OP, I just defended the OP's WTF reaction to an official announcement and then retraction of it. It was pretty WTF...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] gottahavit:
it's a sad sad world if FB is now the official announcement system. It's just too easy for some idiot with access to the FB account to post something he thought he heard over a cube wall.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jtrosky:
Sorry - wrong thread.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wildestpixel:
BLACK & DECKER
[Eee Pad Transformer General] JoTeC:
What is this FaceBook?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] chatch15117:
meow
[Eee Pad Transformer General] DilloDroid:
To be more than fair and mostly correct if you've been around the TF 101 forums for a while and read everything they Asus and their sites say ...you will learn it all needs to be taken with a BIG grain of salt...and you will also learn ...or not..Patience is a Virtue...it may it might it will mostly happen ...sooner or later with varing amounts of success.....as with all things they say but they are a business...a corporation with share holders and such...hype is king...makes the sales up....stock stay up...the dividens pay off...such is life ....these days
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jtc42:
I can't quite believe this thread exists. Frankly, if you wiped the device before you knew the update was out, that in itself was plain silly. Even if the rumour was true, surely wait until you know you get get hold of the update before wiping the device?

Common sense man!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] karapoutsoglou:
Did EXACTLY the same.

Not because i wait for ics but because honeycomb is useless and should i say crap.

No app to sd and i have tons of heavy apps,pathetic to say the least browser experience and many more...

Wiped,cleared everything,closed and will wait for a cwm ics.

No prob for the waiting though as ics is LIGHT YEARS AHEAD of the BS HONEYCOMB.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] SilverZero:
Wow, you must feel like a huge idiot for buying such a worthless device with such a crappy OS on it. I mean, that's just stupid. Poor you. Too bad they don't make, you know, other browsers and such (but that's clearly the least of your problems).

Why not sell that paperweight and wait for a decent device that's not the absolute scourge of the mobile computing world?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] karapoutsoglou:
nice try to flame the topic bro.

every browser has its up and downs but no one is near acceptable...

white blocks,scrolling problems,flash problems,too many to list.

dolphin has this,opera has that etc...

stock ics browser in galaxy s is awesome....

and everything else.

Honeycomb was a rush release.

ics is the mature OS that will change competition.

grow up
[Eee Pad Transformer General] just lou:
Damn. My TF101 must be defective. HC works fine on my it. How do you RMA again? ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] acdcking12345:
I am sure ICS will be a lot better than HC. But I use my TF101 with HC on it everyday and it is always a pleasure to use it. Not sure why someone would buy a device and simply not use it. :confused:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] karapoutsoglou:
because that device has all the potential of the world but after numerous attempts and lot of patience and compromises,the browser no matter if it is skyfire,dolphin hd,maxthon,stock etc...has issues..a lot of issues.

even google has admited that HC was a rush release and that ICS is here to change all the bad things of HC.

I dont complain when it comes,as long as it will and i know it will be great.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] theraffman:
Agree with the last two posters, I use my tf for business and leisure hours every day with very little issue.

I am excited for ics also, played a bit with Paul Burtons ics bake and I loved it, but even with HC its still a great device and a pleasure to use. You may have to get a little creative but just about every issue I have encountered I have figured a work around for.

Just stand by a little longer and ics will arrive.

Its funny, I hear people complain about how hc was rushed, and yet they are complaining that ics isn't coming out fast enough ie rushed... Sounds like a "damned if you do damned if you don't" scenario for asus.

Carry on
[Eee Pad Transformer General] just lou:
Ding. We have a winner. Just take a look in the Prime forum, and look at all the issues ICS created after their update from HC.