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[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
Hello guys,

As we all know here's an always ongoing fight between the SGS II and Xperia Arc or Arc S.

One of my classmates has a SGS II and since a few days he has also an internet flat on it.

We're both on the same provider (E-PLUS) via subproviders, me on My MTV Mobile and he has Medion Mobile, but anyway, they use both the same network without any speed caps so it doesn't matter.

He thinks his SGS II is way better (I don't think so and he knows it) and he wanted to do a speedtest with the Sppedtest.net Mobile app to show how much better his SGS II is?

We used the same server so it's a fair test.

And, I was surprised, my Xperia Arc was faster in circa 18 out of 20 test we made in 3 days by 0.1-1.5Mbit/s in download and just a little bit in upload speeds as we have no HSUPA at our school.

In ping test each phone was 10 out of 20 tests faster than the other, so it is a tie.

Thought the SGS II has the better antenna, but well, I was wrong :D

The SGS II might be faster in general but internet speeds --> browsing speed goes to our Xperia Arc :)

Also with custom ROM and oc to 1.4GHz oc I don't see a big/no difference between the phones...

My Xperia Arc is running arconium 5.6 with the latest .64 baseband and DooMKernel.

Just wanted to share my experience with you, I hope you like the result :D
[Xperia Arc General] dp94:
You could also try the Vellamo benchmark. ;)
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
I can ask him ;)

But for now we just compared the download speeds.

On normal sites the Arc @ 1.4GHz should be faster due faster download then I guess
[Xperia Arc General] adsada arc:
Also try camera test - which phone takes fastest photos, make sure flash is off and focus is on normal and shoot away, the arc wins ;)
[Xperia Arc General] GAME ON:
yeah..love to hear about this dude.. ^^..thumbs up for our Arc/Arc S.. xD
[Xperia Arc General] dp94:
Yeah, that's one other point, where the Arc S is better. :D
[Xperia Arc General] scorpionSE:
ARC rullez B-)
[Xperia Arc General] DemonicHawk:
Only today? I feel pretty good about my Arc everytime I use it :p. Actually though, what really impresses me is how beautiful it is everytime I look at it from the sides :D

Of course.. then the obligatory crack above the proximity sensor ruins it all.
[Xperia Arc General] coolgids:
i saw my friend's SGS II, and i kinda compare it. .

i think they have some good and minus point. .

arc have sexy model, nice feature than SGS II,

but if u call performance when SGS II on high performance and our arc overclocked to 1.9Ghz it still hard to catch its performance

i still proud to use Arc too man!
[Xperia Arc General] sumpf2:
amoled

nuff said.

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[Xperia Arc General] landis90:
Amoled is better only for the deeper black.

For the rest the Arc screen has more natural and faithful colors than amoled, it has only pumped colours
[Xperia Arc General] doomed151:
The S2 is definitely going to step on the arc in Vellamo. You're just trying to make yourself feel good owning the arc by comparing trivial stuff. The dual-core processor, AMOLED screen, high performance SoC are enough to prove that the Galaxy S II is an overall superior smartphone.

Still, I wouldn't swap my arc for an S2 just because I hate Samsung's UI (TouchWiz).
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
Haha, I know thst the SGS II is better in overall and I don't care, I would own a SGS II then instead of my Arc ;)

I wanted the Arc and I'm happy with it.

Just wanted to tell you guys my experience...

@ DemonicHawk:

Haha, I fell god about it every day, too.

But it was even better to see that we have the faster antenna speeds :D
[Xperia Arc General] sumpf2:
AW: Felt good about the Xperia Arc today

you dont have to use tw.

just use go launcher or any other launcher.

or install a rom with jkay (customizable aosp)

or use cm9 experimental with ics aosp (as im doing atm...)

there are plenty of ways to avoid tw :)

but one point for the arc is the prize

amazon:

sgs2 -> ~400

arc s -> ~350

arc -> ~300.

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[Xperia Arc General] doomed151:
Nope, you can't avoid TW unless you switch ROMs. TouchWiz is not just the launcher, it's integrated in the whole thing.
[Xperia Arc General] sumpf2:
havent thought bout that but tw seems pretty similar to gingerbread aosp (except the launcher itself and the colored settings)

correct me if im wrong :)

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[Xperia Arc General] iridaki:
Each phone has its pros and cons, that's a fact.

Even the SGS II is not flawless.

Arc is a phone based on a different philosophy, it's not about the processor or the top-notch specs, it's more about design.

It has a big bright screen and does its job nicely.

It's only human to want to feel good about what you got.

It's somewhat pathetic, on the other hand, to always look around to find better aspects in things you don't have. It's recipe for unhappiness and whimpering.
[Xperia Arc General] Ivanprskalo:
I am proud to own arc because of lot of wow effect that it makes on its appearance when regular people sees it.

Ok, I like to brag sometimes, but who don't?

Unique design that arc has differs it from all that regular and boring looking phones, mostly Samsungs..

So, proud to be arc owner!!
[Xperia Arc General] doministry:
In every comparative video I've seen Arc perfroms as good as SGS II.

There are many of these on YouTube.

As for the display, AMoled on SGS II looks like oversaturated ****.

It really sucks, you have to be blind to call it superior to amazing Arc screen.
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
Ecaxtly, only in Benchmarks there's a big difference or when Arc's RAM is full.
[Xperia Arc General] bolochan:
I read somewhere that the audio is rubbish on the S2, They switched to a Yamaha chipset, and during music you can hear the CPU thinking! I am happy with the arc
[Xperia Arc General] sumpf2:
"hear the cpu thinking"? :D

theyre loud. and that fits well for me because i mostly use it to listen to music in my car via 3.5mm

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[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
Okay but stock for stock the gs2 my brother inlaw has the gs2 and is way faster then my arc without any lag
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
And we both did a navigation application his gs2 downloaded the maps in 5 minutes my arc took 20 and kept freezing?
[Xperia Arc General] squalldua:
yes, the wow effect on other people face when they saw my arc... priceless :cool:

i'm a proud owner of an arc :)
[Xperia Arc General] Bhambya:
I just can't keep my beautiful arc down!! I don't do anything on it but I just want the screen to be on. :-D

Also I saw videos about browsing on galaxy nexus and believe me arc is way smoother.

Only thing I don't like is how Sony Ericsson gave the same specs to nearly every 2011 device. My friend got live with Walkman and that phone has exact same processor and memory specs. Now he is bragging and all cuz he got it for half the price.
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
Then say him you've got the bigger screen and payed more :D
[Xperia Arc General] mhyke13ph:
You should say specifically that you paid more for the screen with 4.2" Led-Backlit LCD with Mobile Bravia Engine and Clear Black Panel and Higher Resolution of 480x854

Live with Walkman don't have those Features :D
[Xperia Arc General] pecholino:
when i was buying a new phone i was deciding between 3 phones.

Xperia Arc, SGS2 and HTC Sensation. All of them had the exactly same price (bought it for 1euro and now i'm paying 19eur/month for 2yrs)

And why i bought the Arc:

- impressive design

- VERY good performance for a single core device

- i love the Arcs camera

- Arcs audio quality

- i trust SE (prior to Arc i owned 8 SE phones - never dissappointed)

- i don't like samsungs boring design and i hate touchwiz

- everyone was buying an sgs2 and most of people didn't even know how to use it

- i saw reports that HTC Sensation had touchscreen problems (otherwise i would have bought it)

Why i was hesitant to buy an Arc:

- non hot swappable microsd

- only 512mb of ram

but those faults aren't really an issue now :)

So to everyone who would like to feel superior because of owning an sgs2, Arc, Sensation, nokia 3310 and so on..

At the end of the day what only matters is if the phone suits your needs and not others!

If you set it up properly you'll be satisfied whichever phone you buy.

I'm happy with my arc and i wouldn't exchange it for an sgs2 and neither for the sensation although i know they are HW wise superior.
[Xperia Arc General] migsguerra:
im VERY Satisfied of my ARC speed and tweek , but i don't like the faded chrome the they make ,also my replace Mother board cause of 0% battery issue eventhough i already order a full white housing but here they dn't know how to replace here in Dubai :mad: lovely phone i had :)
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
Very well said.

And yes, people are walking around everywhere with iPhones and SGS II.

But still much more iPhone 4 and 4S than SGS II here.

@ migsguerra:

Well, don't blame the phone, you've bricked it ;)
[Xperia Arc General] spromper:
4 of my friends have a sgs2 and ofcourse they're convinced that it's wayy better, we also compared our phones and i don't see alot of difference in speed. And the battery life in arc stock is wayy better than stock sgs2 battery life. I also like the xperia ui much more than touchwizz so despite te low specifications i think the arc does a pretty awesome job. I still don't regret buying this phone.
[Xperia Arc General] GAME ON:
has anyone read about this? --> "Samsung Galaxy S2 Problems by Users" ... luckily i read it before buying the SG2.. xD
[Xperia Arc General] kiwiBratwurst:
Another + for the arc is the fact you can use hdmi out without having to plug in the usb to a charger.. The S2 only has one plug for both.. Which also means no usb otg with hdmi.. (because the usb on the Samsung hdmi cable must be plugged into power source to output image to tv)

The S2 also has no physical camera button.. And the lens is so close to the edge of the phone you cover it with your fingers when you take a photo.. And don't get me started on the capacitive buttons on the S2, too easy to press by accident half way through writing a txt or email..

However try doing a video call on skype with the arc! ;-) the S2 wins there.. But then again... You could buy a neo :P
[Xperia Arc General] chompiz:
Why does everyone compare phones and brag about that my phone is better then yours?

I buy a phone based on what im going to use it for and the design.

If my arc scores better then some other phone or viceversa so be it.

As long as my phone isnt as fu*ked up as O2X im happy.
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
They brag theirs better, so we brag back :D
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
But no cracks! Lol
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
I prefer cracks than a phone that hangs when you want to the internet.

He wants to do SpeedTests almost every nowand since 2 today he can't even download stuff of has 3G while I'm rocking HSDPA on the SAME network.

Xperia Arc baby :D
[Xperia Arc General] GAME ON:
+1 for this.. xD
[Xperia Arc General] squalldua:
my personal opinion :

design : arc wins

sexy vs boring

hardware : s2 wins

dualcore vs singlecore, not fair..

touchscreen : arc wins

maybe it's just me, but i feel arc is more responsive.

s2 kinda lags (delay) when you scroll planes.

internet : arc wins

ok, s2 loads faster, but hangs LOL :D

stand out : arc wins

the wow effect on other people's faces.. priceless :cool:

you can easily find BB, iphone, and samsung users everywhere. Xperia users are kinda rare :rolleyes:
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
I have both cracks a phone that hangs and lags
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
You mean the crack near the back button?

Mine seems like getting that also.

Flash SuperChargerV6 or a custom ROM with DooMKernel and the hangs and lags will be gone.

Got 7 homescreems + widgets and ~100 apps, fast and smooth for me
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
This is my point why do I have to flash and root to make my arc a good phone? I know that people love the arc but I prefer to keep my phone stock and just because of that I have many different problems
[Xperia Arc General] JazonX:
Rather than convincing myself the arc is better than the SGS-II and typing it here, Let me be honest, Arc S is definitely not better than the SGSII. You gotta use one to feel the difference. Im using Arc S because I cant afford the Galaxy S-II. Its too pricey for me. Everything about the Galaxy S-II is good. No matter what benchmark test you do, You cant prove the Arc S is better than a Galaxy SII. Dont ask these from die hard SE fans or Samsung fans, Ask from a real android developer or an End User.

My Galaxy S Produced better Photos than the Arc. I know because I had one. The google Maps scrolling is way too laggy in Arc S than the SGS. Today when I was installing an App from the market, the Arc S said Its running outta space in Storage memory. Crap, I had 1GB in the SGS rom and I had all the apps I wanted , and still had space left. 300 MB is pointless.

Sony Ericsson is no more, What makes you think they will look after the Arc S hereafter ?

and like someone here earlier said,

Amoled

nuff said.

Dont argue, use a phone with amoled first before making silly comments. All the wallpapers I transferred from my SGS now looks like they are washed out on the Arc S. Non of the wallpapers look nice. I actually watched movies on my SGS while traveling.

The only good thing about the Arc S is the design and looks, That's damn sexy if you ask me. SGS / SGS-II both look like slim bricks.
[Xperia Arc General] Poker gypsy:
I agree with you 100 % and you have the s. So you will not have the cracks so that is a good thing as for prices I got the arc when it first came out to sweden it was expensive like 5500 kr now it's like 2100kr I have learned my lesson I'm going to wait after any new line of phones come in, and save money lol and this will be my last sony phone because of bad experience
[Xperia Arc General] iridaki:
It seems that not being able to afford the SGS 2 has taken its toll on you, because you are being bitter and slightly offensive.

So I suggest you get a better job, manage your financial wiser and next time, buy a phone you really like.

You can't even suggest that anyone is "delusional" for actually liking the phone they got, even if it is not objectively the best one around.
[Xperia Arc General] pecholino:
well i bought my arc simply because it suited me the most.

and after 6 months i still don't regret this decision. i know it's the best phone for my needs. works great, the only problem i had was the 0% battery which was solved under warranty in less than 1 week! but everyone i know that uses the sgs2 is a bit dissappointed with it. either they don't know how to setup it properly or they have a faulty phone. i don't care. i know that my phone works great. and if other peoples arcs are being problematic, even if 90% of worldwide units would result in being defective, i don't care. as long as mine still works, for me, it's the best phone to date.

oh and about the statement "amoled nuff said"... i would really like to see an sgs2 owners face when his sgs2 hits the floor and the screen goes dead:)

new sgs2 amoled: cca 130€

new xperia lcd: cca 45€

nuff said.. :D

..maybe next year i'll buy a samsung...

YEAH RIGHT... :)
[Xperia Arc General] brian85:
Which one have better photo quality?
[Xperia Arc General] JazonX:
Thank you for the lifelines ! xD

I'm not offensive because I cant afford it, I just cant afford it now because there are far more important stuff to pay off than the phone, Right now whatever that can make calls and send texts is fine.

I didn't realize that I sounded offensive till I read my post again. Sorry no offence was intended. The only thing I wanted to pointout is instead of being fanboy's here tryout a device before you actually deny it. I gave facts to prove my point. I can give more if you want, but then again User Experience is merely an experience. It cannot be typed, or screenshot'd to post online. Whatever I say will not be the same to anyone else.

The thread was about the SGSII and Arc S, I just took the side of the SGSII. If it was HTC sensation and Arc S, I'd take the sensation. If it was the Arc S and Nokia N8 or Lumia, I'd take the Arc S.

About the OP, Yes I think the Arc S is faster because samsung antenna has poor reception, Which is the reason why I gave out the SGSI in the first place.

Delusional part that I agree, Its My bad, It's their call. Not mine to judge. :-)

I'm talking about the Display Quality, Not what happens when you drop it. Drops are User faults. Its not the manufacturers fault. If you drop it, yes you have to pay and get a new one. Its not a point to compare
[Xperia Arc General] iridaki:
OK, that makes it perfectly clear.

And I was not trying to give you lifelines and sound arrogant, it's the exact same thing I say to myself when I make a bad decision regarding an expensive gadget. :D

I'm with you on that, what happens when you drop the phone is not the manufacturer's fault. Same situtation with iPhone 4. Everyone is talking about the luxurious build quality but there's a high risk that when you drop the phone, glass on the front and back will shatter... OF COURSE!! IT'S GLASS!!!! :D Everyone knows that upfront.
[Xperia Arc General] dp94:
Okay the SGSII is better there's no two ways about it, but not that much in my opinion and if you play a little with it i don't really see/feel any difference.

And Arc/Arc S wins totally in the design.

Let's see which specs the SGSIII have, probably a Tegra 3 processor.

But do you really need this in a phone (for now)? :rolleyes:

I'll buy one of the Xperia 2012 range (like the S) and will be as happy as now with my Arc S.

Btw, maybe I'm a little bit subjective, because I've had always a SE device and nothing could change that in the future. :D
[Xperia Arc General] JazonX:
Thank you iridaki, I should improve my grammar, so that I wont sound arrogant online again.

Since everyone is talking about the camera, I did a little Photo shoot test with the Arc S against a SGS-II, and I think I should change my opinion about the Arc S - Exmor Sensor. I said the Samsung Camera is better than the SE. I will upload the pics on a new thread within 24 hours.

Hint - I was wrong. :-)

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On a separate note, What annoys me the most, The Phone (Arc S) is running out of Phone memory, It has come to a point where I have to choose between which apps I need the most because I have only 48 MB left. are there any tips on how to manage memory, so I can have all the apps I want ?

Thank you. ;-)
[Xperia Arc General] dp94:
Use Link2SD and you won't have any problem with that again. ;)
[Xperia Arc General] JazonX:
Thank you ... !

I agree. The Arc S is the Sexiest phone I owned, ( Oh After the - Home Modded Nokia N73 I owned a few years back )

Yes, RAM and Processor is important. Play Monopoly HD or Wind up Knight, and then While you're playin it, answer a call. After the call hangs up, If your game starts from the automatically paused point, instead of starting the whole app again from the beginning, you're a winner.

Arc S ^ the above is not happening.

SGSII, Yeah the game starts from where you paused.

I know mate, I have a brother who owned SE since the very first T68i. I liked the S700i a lot. Until the SGSII, He was a loyal SE user.
[Xperia Arc General] dp94:
But it will in future Sony devices, imo. ;)

And if I were that heavy player, I'd had bought the Play. :D

Yes, but I think there are some others except from me out, who will/want use SE/Sony forever. :cool:
[Xperia Arc General] Gambler_3:
This thread has to be a joke. The xperia arc is barely better than the original SGS let alone SGS2.

Even if dual core CPU, powerful GPU and more RAM dont matter there are other issues with the arc. The internal memory is a mess app2SD or not and the camera is very overrated thanks to the ****ty compression software. Oh and as good a screen it may have but the viewing angles remind me of 5 year old TFT displays.

The only thing it has over SGS2 is design and even that is marred by the cracks.
[Xperia Arc General] ShyamSasi:
I'm not SE fan. I'm fan of good phone don't care who makes it. You made some good points but I have to disagree on camera quality. My brother has SGS it won't produce better photo than Arc. Arc has better display because unlike Amoled display Arc's display produce real colors. I know, not everyone will like LCD display but hey you can't please everyone one.

Galaxy S2 is dual core better RAM so obviously it will perform better than Arc that doesn't mean everything in that phone is best.
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
I wrote about the antenna and said that the SGS II is better overall...

But really, it isn't much faster.
[Xperia Arc General] Gambler_3:
Except real black color which you know matters ALOT.

Also amoled screens have little to no blur, LCD's on the other hand always have it whether you notice it or not is another thing.

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No your post is implying that somehow the 2 phones are comparable "overall" when they really arent.

SGS2 has a way more powerful chipset, double the RAM, better display according to majority and it even has the option to reduce saturation unlike most other AMOLED phones, better camera, better video recording, more internal memory how is this even a contest?

The only thing arc has left is a beautiful yet highly flawed design that cracks.
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
Camera (pics) goes to Arc imo...

I can compare both of them every day.

And my Arc (not stock) can keep up quite good with his stock 2.3.4 SGS II

I'm sorry, but why should I lie?!

I'm talking about real usage not hardware on paper or benchmarks.
[Xperia Arc General] Gambler_3:
No dude the camera really isnt as good as S2. Arc is only good for outdoor pics in daylight.

http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=3619
[Xperia Arc General] samuel109:
Arcs camera is better, and not every arc gets a crack and is barely noticeable
[Xperia Arc General] ShyamSasi:
http://recombu.com/news/android-camera-phone-face-off_M16251.html
[Xperia Arc General] Flo95:
Thanks for the link :)

The Arc is the best camera phone 2011/2012 too btw.

Won some award but I forgot which one
[Xperia Arc General] Gambler_3:
When you zoom in or crop a photo, arc becomes worse than even 5MP shooters. And guess you guys havent see just how many people are dissatisfied with the camera.

http://talk.sonyericsson.com/thread/15930?start=0&tstart=0

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Seems like over 50% users here at xda do get a crack, thats just an unacceptable number.

And for a phone that has design and finish as it's key selling point "barely noticeable" doesnt cut it.
[Xperia Arc General] ShyamSasi:
Do you have a source to support that argument? Just pointing to a random thread will not justify what you say.
[Xperia Arc General] Gambler_3:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1144774

What more do you want?? It's a huge thread with lots of posts and votes.

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And this,

http://talk.sonyericsson.com/thread/17700?start=0&tstart=0

And at the end there are reports of arc S cracks as well, thats so much fail it's not even funny. Sony should do a recall.
[Xperia Arc General] dinesh690:
And at the end there are reports of arc S cracks as well, thats so much fail it's not even funny. Sony should do a recall.[/QUOTE]

A recall? Seriously? Ive had my Arc S since October or Novemeber and haven't had the crack yet, and i know thas not a very long time but Im pretty sure Apple didnt do a recall after their infamous Iphone 4 signal issues/ death grip issue and this is pretty minor compared to that