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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
You are correct but they can file criminal complaint against you if used in a manner to hurt their company.

As for weak wifi, yes there are some real problems out there affecting some users. But I've seen alot claim that and followed advice up here n recanted their statement. There is no assumption n maybe my word choice wasn't the best. I actually feel for those with issues. Why? Because they can't enjoy n appreciate the device like I can and instead have to deal with issues or bad customer service or whatever. Hopefully, this next update will be the "One" everyone really been waiting for. Its time for these issues to be taken care of immediately so people can instead enjoy device vs. Worrying about it getting fixed. That other poster was right on alot of things, although extreme. Everyone frustrated up here. Those with issues n those that don't that constantly read about it. I'm sure everyone is ready to move on and let the real fun begin once developement hit the ground running once bootloader unlock. Developement here could solve alot of peoples problems also. There are some very smart n talented people n this forum. I'm sure if bootloader was unlocked already, they would've fixed alot of issues by now. Like better wifi reception, able to use ad hoc tethering again, BT/wifi interference issues, etc...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] frazipe:
Sour Grapes my a$$

I think it's funny that people are actually saying on this forum that it's just the few with problems that are complaining at the end of a 39 page post about these problems. The WiFi on my TP sucked so I returned it but i've been keeping an eye out on the internet about this issue because I back ordered my TP in Nov and got it on Jan 3 and had to return it a week later. I was not happy but I still want one that works. There are numerous post on dozens of web sites about people with WiFi problems. I'm guessing from what I have read there are thousands of people with the weak WiFi problem. I would not consider that a few people. I'm not even talking about GPS because the company put out a disclaimer about it before the TP was released. Therefore if you bought it knowing there was a GPS problem and that's the only problem you have..suck it up or return it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thismonk:
Sour grapes. Count the number of posters complaining about wifi (not wifi+bt) in all the threads in this forum. There's no more than a dozen people constantly spamming about how they're going to SUE SUE SUE into oblivion and making stupid car analogies. I challenge you to link me to more than a dozen individual posts in the past month in this forum of people claiming to have had non-functional wifi (when bluetooth is OFF) and actually did proper testing to determine that yes, it wasn't working properly even when bluetooth is off. You won't find them because they don't exist.

It's a few people. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. The more the dozen disenfranchised tantrum prone children bleet spam posts out, the more the "issue" becomes systemic. LOOK AT ALL THOSE POSTS THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG! If wifi issues were so prevalent that there was even a 10% failure rate then there would be THOUSANDS of pages (not 39) because there would be tens of thousands of users affected. It's less than 0.5%, which is within mass electronic manufacturing expectations and is why warranties exist in the first place. Not to mention that a majority of the posts in this 39 page thread are people confirming that they have the wifi+bt issue, with a minority being people like you trying to conflate this into a full blown wifi manufacturing issue that somehow breaks all wifi in all Primes with magical fairy dust.

No, the only serious issue here in manufacturing is the wifi+bt issue. All others are one-offs. Exceptions.

Here is for the real wifi+bt issue. All you're doing is confusing a real issue that needs special attention with a run-of-the-mill QA issue that needs to be dealt with through regular channels. You hear me? REGULAR. CHANNELS.

RMA it you clown!

You're right, suck it up or return it. Stop trying to drum up this imaginary "ALL PRIMES ARE BROKEN AND ITS A SYSTEMIC ISSUE AFFECTING 97.2748% OF PRIMES" crap. Why are you doing it? Is it because you're an Apple fanboy? Or is it just because you're a spoiled little child who wants to add himself to the list of people who wants to threaten to sue if he doesn't get a free 700 series tablet? I bet you want to keep your 201 too, for the "inconvenience" and "emotional distress" of having a "completely broken" tablet that is somehow impossible to RMA or ninjas will come out of bushes and castrate you, right?

Wifi completely borked? Yeah, you're going to post on the most well-known forum with an Asus support rep on it. Wifi working perfectly? Oh yeah, I know that's the first thing the average consumer does - go onto a developer oriented forum and start telling people about how everything works perfectly.

For every one of you, there's ten thousand of us who aren't posting about how great our Primes are. This is an acceptable failure rate. I'm sorry that your first one was a lemon and I hope that you get a new one soon!

How about you do yourself (and us) a favour and read a book or go ride your bike instead of ****ting on this thread while you wait? We're trying to deal with real issues completely unrelated to your lemon.

GTFO.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Wow! Lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thismonk:
Somebody has to get these useless husks out of this thread so that Gary can actually do his job and address this issue. Otherwise he gets nothing but noise from these clowns. I bet his PM box is already full of false positives from people looking to get something for nothing.

Again, people, this is why we can't have nice things. Stop confusing the issues. Get out of this thread and away from Gary if you're not talking about the wifi+bt issue.

Maybe his fix will just happen to fix your issue too, but the reality is that whatever issue you have is UNRELATED. If you have a broken Prime, return your broken Prime. There's probably other issues with it.

Stop. wasting. Gary's. time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
Lol above picture, this has turned into autobots "Prime" vs the decepticons hahaha.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techie2012:
Well, I bought 1 Prime from BB and the WiFi had poor reception, Returned. I bought another one from hhgregg and it also had poor reception, To me that's 100% of units defective in my experience, so that's no small number.

As far as adjusting the router, yes you can do that in your house but not in the hotel i stayed last month and the Prime could not connect unless I stood at the room door while an old iPad 1 could connect without problems anywhere in the room.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] frazipe:
thismonk

Listen you GD tool. I am posting on this thread because I did have a BT/WiFi issue and if you would pull your head out of your ass and look around the internet you would see there are hundreds if not thousands posting on on dozens of web sites NOT JUST THIS ONE about wifi problems, not just the wifi/BT fallout issue. How about just looking at the reviews on Amazon. Where probably 1 out of 3 are talking about problems (just one example there are many more). Most are still giving it high stars because they like the other apsects of the tablet. Which I do to. Hell I liked it so much I have another on it's way from BB just hoping I will get one that the wifi works on.

Most people rarely post on web sites such as these. I rarely do. So if there are that many people posting about about their problems just imagine how many aren't.

Also, WTF did I say to make you act such a deuchebag?

Also Also, I do not (other than my kids Ipod touches) own any Apple products so don't even try that Apple Fan Boy **** with me.

Also Also Also, I am an IT professional and I know WTF I'm doing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thismonk:
I don't think you're an IT professional. Usually a requirement of the position is being able to read. Like when you have to read the script from India to the kid trying to connect to the internet. I know one of the first things that garners attention from the technically adept is to open a conversation with "I'm an IT professional so I know what I'm doing". It usually ends with "what's cat6? my textbook only told me what cat5 was.". Because if you actually knew what you were talking about you wouldn't be pinning your credibility on a spurious claim - you'd be proving it. You can start by reading the title of this thread really slowly, word by word if you have to, and then getting the hell out of here.

Listen champ, this is the official ASUS thread for Users with BT/Wifi Fallout Issues. It is not the "whine about an unrelated issue to threadjack and try to get free ****" thread. Go start another thread so you and the other "IT professionals" can go have a circle jerk while the adults here talk about resolving an issue.

If you think you know so much better than the Asus guys because you're an "IT professional" then why are you here? If you know what the problem is, why are you spending two hours every day spamming the forums and demanding free ****? Because if you actually know what the problem is, you'd fix it yourself. Instead you're calling in the real professionals. So let them do their job, and GET OUT OF HERE unless you have something productive to add. Do you have something productive to add? No?

You work in IT so you should understand this concept very well. Stop being a "luser".

I don't care if you think I'm a big meanie and I should have said it nicer. You're adding jack and **** to this.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] frazipe:
Who's demanding free **** jackass? Also, if you could read you would see I did have BT/WFI issues and I'm looking to see if it has been resolved. I did post an article from HP stating there is a problem with WiFi/BT working together due to them both working in the 2.4Ghz range. Therefore adding to this thread about WiFi/BT issues.

If you could stop being an asshole for one minute and read the thread you would have seen that.

But I'm done with you...you are obviously in a contest to see who could be the bigger deuchebag...I concede...you win.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] FunkyMcBain:
Hey this thread is to discuss the issues so can it children
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cooooldman:
Wow i hate for this to be my first post but is all this really helping us that have problems with the WIFI/BT issue. Im 48 yrs old and i was almost afraid to post anything on here but oh well i guess the worst i can get is a scolding.Anyway my BB return window is running out and i have read every post in this thread and i now see that there is no real fix for the prime i was really hoping to get a fix as it is a great Tab but 500$ for a unfinished product is not good business no matter what the company im sure my customers wouldnt let me slide if i put a remote start in there car and it only started on days above 50 degrees and i told them that the antenna only worked when it was warm !!! But everything esle on it works good when its cold!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ride525:
No real fix? read this thread on some folks that opened their cases, and played with Wifi, GPS, lightbleed......

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1474391

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Mods,

Can you address the frazipe - thismonk bickering and arguing in this thread?

I would suggest it does not belong in a thread Asus started to help with Wifi/BT issues.

Thanks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cooooldman:
I read that one to and seems as soon as the case went back on signals dropped again besides one shouldnt have to open a New product and void warranty to fix it anyway.Mine works fine until i use my Bt headset then it goes to crap so the wire antenna deal wont fix that anyway. I still have 3 days left Hopefully they will come up with something fingers crossed but i wont hold my breath.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hoya68:
Just to clarify things. I did RMA my unit because of very weak WiFi signal right near the router. I didn't test GPS or bluetooth. Thanks to Gary's folks, I was finally shipped a new unit. WiFi was slightly better but still unacceptable (1.6Mbps on the best channel when 3 feet from N router). I checked GPS and it could only lock on one satellite. I haven't checked bluetooth, as I don't use it. One of Gary's colleagues is working with me to figure out how to resolve these issues.

I realize that many people have had excellent WiFi and GPS reception. I am happy for them. For, the rest of us (whether it is 1%, 10%, or 50%, I have no idea and my guess is that no one else on this forum has a real idea), we should reasonably expect that the issues should be resolved. I am working with ASUS and am hopeful that ASUS will solve the problem issues for me and for those others that have them.

Other than these couple of major problems the TP is an outstanding tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Those are slow speeds. You said you have your router on N? If so, prime is known not to work well on it. Or at least the 5Ghz range, which is overhyped anyways and less range than 2.4ghz. Plus the Prime doesn't support 5ghz N...only the 2.4 range. Have you already tried putting it on G only?

If you did this already n still get weak wifi then they need to send you another one. Mine works with my router without any adjustments. Its Comcast high-speed wireless. NETGEAR ROUTER. not even a PC hooked up to it to make any adjustments. It works well with my Ipad n even better with prime. I do see what you saying though. Good luck on getting it straightened out. Hopefully sooner than later so you can enjoy device n not have to worry about b.s. issues Prime should've never had in the first place.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
..well maybe it's not working well on N, but the rear of the box and the specs says so.

I have a Netgear 3700 and N work fine on the Prime too, except it's 10-15db lower than laptops, Ipad2 and HTC desire.

I think that sending a product in 2012 that still only works well on G, is not a great quality, and if it's sold to work with N, then it has to work as good as any other device.

You can accept the weak signal or not, but moving on G is not what I and others bought it for. Expecially if you have devices in the first place that "only" work well on N.

I accept it somehow, because as long as I do not use BT devices too, I have not disconnections, but this does not mean that WiFi is working as stated.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
Add me to the list of affected users. BT and Wifi can not be used at the same time. Also the bluetooth lags in every video player. Please fix this problem soon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SexyAndIKnowIt:
I guess one of the main problems here is, that the term 'wifi signal is weak' is ambigous.

Imo everyone who has wifi problems should do the same test, as in; Put you're router on N-Mode, channel 1/6 or something. And test when you're 5m, 7.5m, 10m and 15m away.

Unfortunately, my TFP does have a bad wifi connection. When i'm like within 4m of my router/AP, all is perfect. Once i'm at a distance of 6m it just drops to half my speed (instable 4mbit)

The main problem is, besides the Wifi/GPS problems, my tab is nearly perfect. No random reboots/lightbleeding etc.

And reading all the topics about people have issues doesn't make my choice of returning the tfp easier =(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
I did all these tests, I ended having it on channel 13.. but 12 and 1 were the next best.

I am keeping also mine so far, because as yours is almost perfect.. WiFi and BT is the only issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
PRIME does support N but not the 5Ghz mode, if that makes sense. Only the 2.5ghz band.Its widely known Prime doesn't support that frequency. So if using N in 5ghz, that's an obvious reason for it not to work well. I believe mines is mixed n I get a very strong signal. This might help clear some things up also n let people see that 5ghz is just hype n really no good at all. Check this link out:

http://smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/30664-5-ways-to-fix-slow-80211n-speed
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hoya68:
A Dramatic Change.

I thought you had the solution. I did G only and it was 10x faster. I then disabled the 5GHz band and I still got tremendous speeds from the 2.4 GHz band set on G. Then I tried setting it to N only and got even better speeds. Something had obviously changed (an over the air update??) because I am now getting excellent speeds (17.14 Mbps up/ 5.07Mbps down) with the same settings that got 10% of that before this morning. There is still a fairly significant drop off (9.01 Mbps) when I move up one floor in my house, but speeds are still acceptable. I'll check the GPS later this morning. Having Bluetooth on does not seem to affect the WiFi.

I will test GPS later this morning.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
I do not recall to have mentionned 5.. I only use N 2.4.

I never tried G, because I have devices that performs badly on G. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] frazipe:
I apologize to everyone on these forums (except for thismonk) for those post...I should not have let him get to me like that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] FunkyMcBain:
I really just want a reliable rma process to come out of all this. It is frustrating to not hear anything from Gary for days and days, but the reality is that they probably are working on things it just takes a hell of a long time sometimes for things to go public.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hoya68:
Interesting Discovery

Following demandarin's advice I set my router to wireless G only and speeds were excellent. I then changed to N only and speeds were still excellent. I then had to reboot my router (Linksys WRT600N) and the speeds were again horrible on the N setting. However, if I change back to G only everything is fine and I can change settings back to N only or mixed. I am going to a wireless hotspot later this morning (where I had extremely slow speeds yesterday) and check the download speed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ultimatdan:
wifi issue

PM has been sent.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
I need a fix through software. I have 44 days left to return my 5th Prime at Bestbuy. If they can fix the Bluetooth audio delay through Bluetooth during video playback & Bluetooth/WiFi not working together problem, I will keep my Prime. But if iPad 3 comes out between now and a fix I wont hesitate to return my Prime and KB dock.

On my 5th Prime, I really am trying to like my Prime, but Bluetooth and WiFi working together is important to me. What makes things worse is, the agent I spoke to said that the problem is a limitation of the hardware:(

There's no way I'm sending my Prime to Asus all the way from Anchorage AK.

I'll return it before I do that.

I really hope Gary and Co. can find a software fix soon.

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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cooooldman:
Well im through messing with mine i will go back to my Galaxy 7 until something better comes along with no major problems at least it works and works well with the overcome 7 rom. Have fun sorting all this mess out. 73 Asus!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
There was no over the air so it had to be the change n router settings to cause the improvement. Glad to hear this worked for you.

OK I see. Try doing what Hoya did n see if there is an increase. His changing the settings then reverting back made his speeds increase dramatically with what I said.

Good to hear at least getting the faster speeds. I'd say don't reboot router if you don't have to. Or at least you know how to get the higher speeds back now if it does.

I would want others with similar setup as you experiencing slow speeds to try this out n see if it works for them. They got nothing to lose and alot to gain if it works. Plus they could revert back to N or mixed n keep the higher speeds like you experienced. Keep us posted.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] opentoe:
Let us know what happens!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hoya68:
I am now getting consistently good speeds with 2.4Ghz set at G (also good at N and mixed) but G seems to work best. There will be times when I will have to reboot router because of TiVo issues, but I assume as long as I reset to G things will work fine. Speeds one floor above router are somewhat slower but still quite acceptable. Channel changes do not seem to have any significant effect.

GPS seems to be better but still not very good without Wifi. I know some folks are getting good GPS, but I am not getting stong enough signals to route with Google maps.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DesertVelo:
Almost...

Sorry to say that after two Primes and the same performance issues, I will be returning the unit. I had my hopes after owning and really liking my OG Transformer. The investment is too great for something that "kinda" works. Docking station and the 64GB is going back. Good luck to everyone and I really do hope that Asus addresses the issues.

Gary, thank for your attention and the help/coordination to your customers.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skygunner27:
If the Prime isn't fixed by Tuesday evening, I too am returning my Prime & dock. Please continue to support the TF201 end users.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
We haven't heard from Gary since Feb. 2nd

The fix should be ready early February.. isn't it "now"?

I fear no fw will fix the issues reported here, maybe only WiFi/BT

He was talking about coordinating with customer service about what to do.

Maybe in the USA, but Europe seems like nothing happens, I did not hear anyone from Europe here having heard about what they will do in Europe.

Has anybody contacted Asus in their countries? :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] H3llc0r3:
Hi I'm new here and I read the whole thread :D

well I contacted ASUS Austria...wanted to know what they'll do to fix my prime (weak wifi, gps not working neither inside nor outside, "^" key creaks sometimes, there is something between the glass and the touchscreen on the bottom-inside - don't know what's that and there is a area on the backplane where's no pattern ^^)

So there are lots of problems with mine, but I'm still waiting for an answer. :rolleyes:

EDIT:

Got an answer just this minute...well it's the usual blabla that the prime has a unibody-body and this can affect the gps, wlan and so on...sounds like a standard answer

BUT I've mentioned in my first email that I know there are primes around that work fine GPS, WLAN etc. ... I like the prime very much, but I've to say that I'm starting to feel fooled and angry :mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ride525:
Gary is traveling through February 4. I'm hopeful we well hear from him today (Feb 6).

My understanding also was that there was to be a software update in "early February". I don't know exactly what that means, buy my guess it could be sometime in the next week or so.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
Gary's silence can be translated in different ways:

Lack of solutions so far, or those found did not solve the problems.

Discussion at Asus, about how many millions will this cost them to replace all the units that need to :p

I think that the next couple of days will be decisive. Otherwise all the people who have been patient, will begin to RMA or ask for a refund.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] FunkyMcBain:
Best decision on their part will be to say what's done is done, let's replace/fix all the units no questions asked. Question is how much money are they willing to pour into this problem
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BTrack:
Maybe Asus is waiting until the TF300 is ready so they can replace the faulty TF201's with them.