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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BlackFire_PR:
Sadly, I'm returning my Prime today. I had probably set my expectations for this product a bit too high, because Asus used to be in the top of my trust-worthy companies. I never thought they would rush a product to the market this way.

It is not a horrible product, I love the screen, and it is very fast and capable. It had the potential to blow everyone's mind by not just being the first Tegra 3 device, but also a flawless product. Asus blew it this time.

Asus: Please put more quality in the upcomming Windows 8 ARM products if you are planning to build one for that platform, specially if you are planning to be one of the lunch partners.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] valendinos:
wifi adapter compatible with tp

hi i want to ask if someone knows if usb adapters like edimax ew-7711uan are compatible with the transformer prime !! this things can't solve the wifi problems ?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Evo4sickness:
Thanks for confirming with the tests with I had said above. Now my question is do you think 10mbps and 6mbps average is what Iam getting and Iam about 17 feet from my router that is brand new Awire router from Atnt. Because I see people posting 15 to 20 mpbs. But like I said I have not had one drop in connection.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] t3ch7:
I noticed, initially, that I had no problems with Wifi and BT running at the same time on my Prime. When I was close to my router, everything was perfectly fine...I think speedtest was slower by like 2mbps with BT on (not terrible and still rather usable). But, once I started to move away from my router, bam! Wifi speeds slows down to a crawl.

I decided to try the same thing with my phone (HTC Thunderbolt) and same thing. Wifi throughput was fine if I was near my router, but, when I was not, sloooooow speeds.

I wonder too, but overall, we do know that there is a wifi problem with the device. I wonder if people who are having the BT/Wifi issue have any problems when they are near their router assuming the person has no other issues with wifi.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] LTLFTCer:
I am. I am sitting at my desk, right next to router. Try to connect my Galaxy Nexus via Bluetooth and it doesn't even connect. Have to turn off Wifi, and even then it drops after a couple seconds.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
Thanks for reporting that. It sounds good and give us a bit more of hope.

These 2 devices you have at home are both yours, or you get one from Asus to test?

If so, are there any differences in "building materials" and/or software-hardware inside?

BTW for me the best channel is 12 on a Netgear 3700, using N and 300Mps settings.

With the display towards the router is much better than with the back towards it..

10-15db

Regards
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ride525:
The Testing group working with Gary offered to cross-ship a second tablet after I gave him a credit card number. That's something, I am told, that Asus Customer Service does not do.

And I don't think you can change your router channels 12-14 in the US, I think you may only be able to use 1-11 in the US.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
You are right about the channel, I can choose also 12-13 in Denmark.

About the 2nd tablet, did they tell you what's different compared to yours.

Regards
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dagrim1:
That and you often don't have the luxury of changing the channels... Sure, when at home it's an option but at home the connection usually is ok enough. When at other places and making use of the public networks (which aren't always that strong) the problem begins...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ride525:
Something else I am worried about.

The two Primes I've checked have weaker WiFi than other tablets. And I too am worried that traveling may cause some problems, that I have solved somewhat at home.

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Nothing I know of is different about the second tablet, except it's made in January, the first was made in December. The second tablet made in January does have a tiny bit more of light bleed, but not much, even then.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] murgo:
god, i hope the wifi issue can be resolved with an update. i love my prime, but the crappy wifi is a complete dealbreaker for me. i only have little more than a week left until my return window closes..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ripattick:
PM sent, Gary.

I hope this is just a software issue and not hardware, cause I think it's a great tablet
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xceebeex:
It sucks to read about these wifi issues. I am actually getting ready to get rid of my Acer A500 because the signal strength is so poor. I really like the Prime, but I don't want to go from one bacd tablet to the next in terms of wifi strength.

So I have to decide if I want to wait or just go with the TF101.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] murgo:
you should keep the acer for a little while longer and wait for MWC. samsung will surely announce a galaxy tab successor.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xceebeex:
The only this is that I have until Feb 22nd to return the Acer and I might have someone lined up to buy it off me for $275 (which is more than I paid) so I don't want to keep it too long and then lose money when I could get out now and it is not like I NEED a tablet right away.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
THANKS for putting this up. More proof this is not a Prime only problem but a problem in general across many different devices. Even the almighty Ipad suffered from this as well. So a better solution needs to be found to minimize the impact of the wireless interference.

You will still have people swear up n down the backplate causing this..lmfao SMH. People here doing some great research to figure out the root cause of issues.

Can't wait to see what this new update coming will bring.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kevinkline:
Replacement Prime....

I received a replacement from Amazon for my prime today 64GB Grey. I DID NOT upgrade to ICS.

So far.... EVERYTHING IS WORKING GREAT..... GPS WIFI.... AND IT'S KICKING ASS ON SPEED TEST. sn ending 17034.

I returned sn ending 5590

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Anyone know if we can do a back-up before updating to ICS? I rooted but don't see anything out for RomManager for the TP yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NORCALkID:
You cannot back up the rom it self that i know of... The prime has a locked bootloader no custom recovery available. You can back up your apps and stuffs with the stock backup app or titanium backup
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Evo4sickness:
Kevin can you be a more specific with its running great and how about some speed test numbers and video running streaming bt and wifi.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
I think that the issue is more software than hardware related, I would say 70% software and 30% hardware. Why..?

I made all kind of test (not GPS).

I have 13 channels available in my Netgear 3700 in Denmark, and I tried all of them.

Best result is 1,12,13, where 13 is the best, BUT... I stay in the same spot and run speed test and WiFi Analyzer to check speed and signal, and if you just move the device 1 cm or turn it few degress right or left, you can easily lose or gain 5-15db. I test with the display towards the router position 30 feets and 4 rooms away.

Speedtest reacts same way, you can almost have full speed, (I have fibre 30/30) or less than the half just moving the device a bit.

Plus the download speed is always lower than upload, that's weird too, with fiber like I have.

Why it is 30% hardware, because if just on the same spot, you turn the device with the backplate towards the router then the signal and speed decrease even more dramatically.

I hope that the new firmware will solve the issue, but for me it will still be a problem for many, because the back plate is decreasing the signal strength, if you are using the device not with the right direction.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kevinkline:
I spoke too soon. Still have the wifi issues but not as bad as in the prior unit I returned. Bluetooth kills the wifi signal. On speed test

No Bluetooth down 9120, 14718, 16922, 12135 kbps. Upload was not affected

With Bluetooth on: 1087, 10967, 5394, 4949 kbps.

GPS seemed to work fine at home but not having issues this morning at the office. It might be the building.

Now, to I run the firmware upgrade to ICS or not....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] b1n4ry:
Any Updates on this i was about to buy one but thought to google issues first is there a 301 about to come out now or some other tablet that you guys would recommend if these issues haven't been fixed
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] zentaw:
Realesed in Sweden 2012-01-30

PM sent. Hopefully we get something working

Problem is exactly as posted by Gary
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] zoltan35:
My phone and Prime will pair but there is no connection established.]

PM sent.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] corduroytrees:
Just adding my name to the list of PMs sent to Gary (a few days ago). Same wonky Wifi issues in general. I can sit in one place and watch the wifi analyzer and it looks like a jump rope in slow motion. Also, inactivity makes the wifi drop and I usually have to turn off wifi and back on again to see the and connect to the network I was just on. SN starts with BC.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jonman409:
Bluetooth co-existance called 'btcoex' is supported in the mac80211 stack. I have not checked whether or not it is in the bcm4329 driver. I am confident that the issue is in the software stack as opposed to hardware. The same bcm4329 chip is found in the original transformer without having these issues. Even if I got the source and just started changin the broadcom driver and even fixed it it would need to be rebuilt for each kernel change that asus releases and the user would have to be root to replace the existing module.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rookie50:
returned today

So sad returned my Transformer Prime today cause it was the last day vendor would refund price. I was hoping Asus would have come out with a sure fix for the poor WiFi. I could actually use it around my house but the signal was very unsteady and I would occasionally have my internet connection dropped. Better safe than sorry, will wait for their next version and wait until it's out and tested. Too bad because I did like everything about it, didn't care about the GPS issues, never really tested it outside but if the WiFi isn't reliable than what good is it. If Asus issued a commitment to guarantee a fix I probably would have kept it. But announcing a newer version coming out in a couple of months suggests they won't take all these units back and fix properly.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SpinnZ:
This is about my only issue also, but i think ive passed my return date from where i purchased it...

So god im hoping they find a fix...other wise i have a really facy and expensive hard drive. ($800 in Australia it cost me :( )
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] compuw22c:
Sure you can... with DD-WRT :) I don't think you're SUPPOSED to but MAN, there's like no interference at all! Like your own special little slice of spectrum just for those in the know ;) Although most client machines (sold in the US) will also need to be modified in order to connect via 12-14, but I always used it for long-distance wifi links between 2 dd-wrt routers with some nice directional antennas.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Erik.htc:
I found an german article:

heise.de/ct/artikel/Funk-Vorbereitung-1421535.html

One Solution is, to "set your base (but) then exactly the same channel as the strongest foreign power."

I think, my wlan receiving strength is a bit better. Maybe its faith.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jzen:
Mr.Key i am 100% sure everyone that currently has a prime has very weak wifi,gps and bluetooth.

I am also quite certain that this cannot be easily fixed with a firmware update... not sure if you just posted this just to make Asus look like it gives a crap but it really seems that way to a lot of us.

My archos 70it has better wifi connection than my prime...

You have lost a good customer Asus and will lose a lot more, hope it was worth it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Joker Fuel:
OK i just called ASUS to ask about what was going on with the GPS connection problem. they told me my Prime has never had gps so they dont know why im inquiring about the issue.

and when they asked me for my personal info and serial number of my prime, they told me MY PRIME NEVER EXISTED!! WTF???

not only my gps is non existent, I AM ALSO NOT AN ASUS OWNER ACCORDING TO THEM

WTF IS GOING ON?!?!?!?!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mr_Armageddon:
I ran multiple Speed Tests with and without Bluetooth enabled. PM'd Gary, and wanted to add my data to the pile.

WiFi signal strength was around -55dBm for all the tests, which is pretty good considering I'm sitting in my bedroom which is upstairs and on the opposite side of the house from the router.

Without Bluetooth - Mbps

Down = 8.68, 7.92, 8.16

Up = 4.91, 4.93, 4.90

With Bluetooth - Mbps

Down = 0.33, 0.24, 0.26

Up = 0.44, 0.38, 0.55

My Prime S/N is BCOKASXXXXX

Build 9.4.2.11-20120117

Bluetooth v9.23

WiFi v6.1.1.17

Really bad when trying to stream HD video files from my Media Server while using Bluetooth headphones.

If just using the Prime's speaker, the HD videos play back just fine over Wifi. I tested with multiple files ranging in 2-6GB in size.

As soon as I try to stream those same video files while using my Bluetooth headphones, the playback is unwatchable, less than 1 frame per second.

Hopefully the upcoming Update mentioned in the OP will show promise.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tq745:
just got my prime in today from best buy...used wifi analyzer and the prime was consistently -20db lower then my gs2 throughout my whole house. haven't tried out the bluetooth yet as i don't have a set of bluetooth headphones. wifi is definitely weaker though, luckily i'm a silver member so i have 45 days to return back to best buy. hopefully a fix will be out by then if not then this prime is going back.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jrmint:
I just got my Prime yesterday also. 1/31/2012.

updated to ICS.

Noticed that all I have to do is walk about 8 to 10 feet away from the wifi router and the signal bars and speeds do drop. Not sure if I'll keep this as a REAL replacement for my IPad. Will go out and about this weekend and see how the wifi works at hotspots.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
When I walk from my bedroom in my apartment which the router is in, I also drop 2-3 bars. However if I walk into the kitchen about 10 feet away it jump backs up 2 bars. On a side note my old Acer Iconia 500 kinda did the same. Not sure if its my router or what, I'm using a Net gear dual band.

I'm gonna go to a few local hot spots tonight to test as well. All in all my wifi isn't terrible, never had any drops but can deff be better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] federer:
Has Asus even admitted that the wifi is weak? I am not referring to Bluetooth and wifi. Just wifi! it's weak and unacceptable. Does anyone know if Asus cares about this, or are our tablets for A+ networks only? I'm past my return date or I would return it. My galaxy 10.1 wasn't as sexy but it worked.. sorry whinnying but it seems the pathetic wifi is being ignored.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ride525:
I don't know if Asus has ever admitted that WiFi is weak. But Asus is working on it.

My son also has a Galaxy 10.1, and I found it's WiFi stronger than the Prime, on the other side of my home. I ended up changing the channel of my router, and moving the router out of the closet, four feet closer, and four feet higher. The Prime is much happier now. But, I'm still worried about taking the Prime on trips, so I'm looking forward to any Asus fixes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] caanda45:
Do not feel bad, remember this is a wi-fi only tablet with a locked boot loader that does not work. Asus has f`ed this up since day one, I to would return mine if I could and buy the Samsung, at least it works and has custom roms!!!!! Waiting but at the moment I feel I will be screwed by Asus in this product...or Gary prove me wrong and get a fix or replace this product with one that works....frustrated as I can not stream web pages 15 feet from my router on wi-fi on my $500.00 tablet...Apple can do that, Samsung can do that...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ddarvish:
My wifi signal is weak as hell.. i get like 5mbps connection. if i bang my transformer on the top near the wifi antenna i can connect at 65 mbps for a few hours then it goes back to crap... **** i want to keep this tablet but my window on my 30 day return opportunity is closing in quick and i dunno if i can risk having a dud tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
The WiFi issue has me so frustrated with Asus. Regardless of any potential fixes (I'm sure there won't actually be any), I am so done with this awful company.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Techie2012:
I'm confused! Can someone clarify if the weak WiFi issue is present in *all* devices or just some of them? I've seen people stating that "my wifi is fine" but hard to tell if they have really tested it.

At this point I am going to return mine before the return window ends but don't want to give it another try until there is any chance of getting a unit that works (WiFi-wise). This is already my second return btw.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
My opinion is that weak WiFi compared to other devices is more or less on big number of Primes.

The BT/WiFi fallout could be more limited, but also because not everybody use the WiFi and BT together.

I think that the hardware part is more important than the software, meaning, they will not fix 100% the issues with a fw updates.

My idea is that at a certain time AUS will ask to RMA all devices either for hw changes or replacement.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] disasterdan:
Problems

Well Ad me to the list of unhappy prime owners.

Sent mine RMA to ASUS receive date 1-27 still in waiting ( HELP GARY )

Asus did provide fed ex shipping

Chris A was my contact at ASUS, called me personally about returning my prime

Bought from Amazon. Initially would not extend my return window. went through 2 CS'r's. 2 hours on the phone. no luck! got a email asking about my customer experience. Sent a good Ol nasty gram. 2 minutes later I got a call back. Amazon is extending my return window, too see what Asus does with my RMA Prime. she has even called back 1 week later. Said she will call back fri 3rd.

ISSUES with my prime serial #BCO.

1. No WiFI until ICS then very weak

2. BT would pair but not connect to the web, I did receive an OA update while paired but not connected? I did manage a paired usable internet connection for about 3 hours in one location ( Moto Bionic using Pdanet v3.1 ) then lost it

3. Lines across the screen; Google Maps and any other app trying to use GPS.

4. The screen would flicker strangely while bringing up the on screen keyboard

5. No GPS unless outside with one foot raised

I dont have WIFI were I stay at when I work away from home. I have to have functional Blue Tooth Tether

I am so let down by ASUS! Always considered there name of TOP Quality. guess thats not the case anymore.

( 2-1 ) My Unit is in WAITING how long it will be there who knows? I got a canned reply back from Chris A. today

If only there was a way to make their stocks take a hit
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bgm307:
It's a sad day. I really liked my Prime but I just tapped on factory reset and put it back in the box. UPS is picking it up in the morning and taking it back to the vendor. I held out for 3 and a half weeks hoping but I just don't have any faith that Asus can fix the wifi with firmware. If they do fix it ultimately I'll buy another in a minute.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] murgo:
same here.. if they wifi works as it's supposed to, like it does in other devices, i'll immediately buy one again. i won't be holding my breath though..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] benefit14snake:
Yeah mine is pretty terrible as well. On channel one or two it worjs reasonably well but still get disconnects. Wifi tethering to my phone is just as bad...even 18 inches away in my pocket.....grr Asus im loosing faith. Ill go back to EVGA for all my other needa also....mobos....gfx cards...sound cards...laptops... you name it. Im about DONE with this crap.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blinky44:
Sounds like one of the RMA's that came back today from ASUS was quite a contrast to what the previous unit the user had. He also indicated that the box packaging was different. Hopefully we will have news this week yet from Gary. Info is on the Official RMA Thread (not a Gary thread) over on Transformer Forums. One quote the person made after updating new prime to ICS.

"In all honesty, this is like a completely different tablet, compared to my first one. The screen responce is so much more fluid, the browser is lightning fast, I'm able to pull 20 meg from 20 to 30 feet, whereas before it was MAYBE 5 meg download."

This is what I am hoping for, no more blaming the user, the house the router the cat but that there is something wrong with a % of the primes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
I am afraid to send it back to Asus DK...

They will probably give me another one with same issue

I would prefer one from Gary :-)

1 that is good like mine is except for wifi issues
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] harry_fine:
So what happened to Gary's promise of an update today. Doesn't sound hopeful that they have nothing to report.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] FunkyMcBain:
Interesting, was this sent back as part of a Gary RMA or in general to Asus?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Vcolassi:
I was going to return mine but I think I'm gonna wait a few more days. I really Want to get fixed. There is no doubt no better tablet on the market now if we can get this thing to perform correctly.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] FunkyMcBain:
I can't even think of returning it, it's far too good, I want a verified RMA procedure so that I know it will come back working properly and I'll be happy
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blinky44:
Read through last few pages of thread on transformer forums most of those people are working directly with Gary's team. I think anyone in the general RMA who has not then connected with Gary so they are monitoring the RMA are not getting the same results

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My impression is he updates at different times and sometimes it may be a day later. Also look at the bottom of the OP message because he updates his travel plans which can impact too. This comment from this person today was the first one that made me more comfortable that something is happening. I have told Gary I am holding out until things are more solid before I would RMA anyting. This is my 2nd prime and after I added the access point on the main floor it is less of an issue, totally worthless though on public transportation with city wifi which is fine with a regular laptop.