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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyan_osu:
I will say the Transformers Prime forum has increased my ignore list by a ton now :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
Its not what I think its what the Transformer Prime is.

I didn't purchase it thinking its going to be a bag of ****.

Roll on the new TF700T if it improves WiFi and GPS as that would suit my needs better which simply is for travelling. At this moment I dont even get a connection 20ft away, thats really going to help connecting to WiFi networks at airports, hotels, and other locations abroad.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] micaman:
Well if yours is a bag a **** do as suggested and return it or send it in for RMA. No connection from 20ft away tells me you received a dud. Move on Man.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
If I were in your shoes, which I'm not my Prime doesn't have any physical defects for me to contemplate returning it, but if I was going to exchange it I wouldn't go to a iOS based tablet. I would stay in the Android family, there is a very powerful 8.9" Samsung Galaxy Tab LTE tablet out there as well as the DROID xyboard 10.1" tablet that are powerful performing tablets in their own right.

Not to mention iPad 2 hardware is inferior to mostly all the Tegra 2 based Android 8.9 inch or larger tablets.

But whatever floats your boat.

---------- Post added at 09:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:09 AM ----------

oh wait, you said iPad 3. Nevermind
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bex:
I too prefer aOS to iOS hands down, and the Prime being so thin was a remarkable tablet, however, as an airline pilot it just didnt do the trick, the wifi range sucked so bad you couldnt connect in the hotel. At home, it does the job fine but not for traveling which is the primary purpose of the device for me. Therefore my decision was made by the poor performance of the product solely. Asus must and can do better, I do think they will revise the hardware if they continue to sell the TF201 Prime.

The biggest chuckle I get is reading these threads where the hopeful among us are trying to say they have perfectly "GOOD" Primes, when they get 20% SNRs locking onto 6 or 7 sats. My Nexus S gets 40%+ SNRs in my office where my Prime got nothing...obvious flaws in this device that Asus had to have known about prior to launch.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] acidus.:
iPads have always been the tablet to beat, and I'm sure iPad 3 will raise the bar again. Rumor mill says it will be out in March, so if you can wait might not be a bad idea to see what Apple came up with.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
Of course its going back for a full refund this WiFi is a complete joke. My 2 year old Asus 1000HE N series netbook doesnt have such piss poor WiFi and is far better for mobility and travelling abroad.

Roll on the TF700T.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
Then yours is defect? Can't you understand that? The WiFi from my Prime was about as good as my 6 months old HP laptop, and better then my HTC Sensation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] u010679:
sounds like you have a defective unit? I would rma/exchange it unless there is something else that irks you about the tablet.

I am curious what "new" features apple will market in March but as long as they are in ios5 there is only so much that will change. I.e. I'm sure you've used ios devices before ... If you weren't head over heels then you won't be now. Probably the same is true about aos and windows etc.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
What if you get the TF700T and it has the same wireless condition as the TF201. :)

and the TF700T 1080p is a marketing joke. Power users don't care for high resolution, if anything gamers would want high resolution but not on a 10" tablet, more like a 40" HDTV.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jzen:
They have prototypes already and many sources say it will be about feb or early march.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
My crappy Asus 1000HE netbook running win7 using N WiFi of 2 years old performs better than the Prime does thats why.

Spare me the complete crap suggestions of using b or g on a perfectly solid N WiFi network that no other device has even the slightest issue with, only the Prime has WiFi issues.

The Prime is a broken tablet on release fact how about you learn that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
Guy.. shut up. your Prime is broken, at least mine is not.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdelliott31:
Confusion: if you spend a fair amount of money on a product and it comes riddled with problems, doesn't meet manufactured specs, to the point where you return it.

Why oh why would you then support the very same company that let you down / botched their product, by touting and the spending MORE MONEY on their next product?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CraigGB:
before putting people down, you are wrong, they are unlikely to all be defective if people keep having units that work okay, in my bedroom which must be around 20 metres from my router I have pretty much the same signal strength as my macbook pro and galaxy S, a couple of percent off my MBP and usually a bit higher then the phone, speeds I don't know but its fine for streaming 720p video from my PC
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
I don't have a video because mine is back for backlight-bleeding, but the screenshot should say enough. Well, probably not for you.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
Is anybody getting GPS readings this good? :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] u010679:
Every product by any company has a certain rate of defects.

1. I don't even care if your point is that the defect rate is unacceptably high and Asus should get out of the consumer biz.

2. But the perception that there are users covering up the defects as if they need to hold onto this tablet for dear life, veteran members of the board (which I am not), seems a little off. Why would any one hold on to a defective piece of tech (lol even iPhone users threw a fit in the last round of antenna gate)

You have a defective tablet and it sounds like it is much more than the wifi/gps pissing you off ... its become personal ... you might never be able to be comfortable with an Asus product after this. (I'm feel that way about VW, cdw.com, socket 1156, dell laptops, etc. But its my issue and it helps me to just stay away.)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
I know Asus as a good company previously buying loads of their products - the Prime in noway represents what I am used to from them.

Some companies do bring out epic fails with newer devices - look at HTC previously bringing out good mobile devices also making huge profits to the later part of last year bringing quite a few bags of **** out for example the Sensation with the antenna issue and further not so good mobiles which in turn has affected profits. Hopefully should see something better coming from them as well.

This isn't really much different from Asus and its good issues like GPS and WiFi on the Prime are being looked at swiftly with the newer TF700T.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] micaman:
YOUR TABLET IS DEFECTIVE. DEFECTIVE! It is not performing similarly to the many non DEFECTIVE units. Get it yet?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nmoreman:
I think I'm getting tired of the complaining, I honestly wish we knew how many were produced in first mega shipment, and how many returned with issues, true issues.

But my point is this, you are starting to be rude. Yes, there is much rambling in this thread as well as many posts out there which is unusual for xda and their members. Normally it is contributions and help to fix it, not just complaints, these are more appropriate in the specialized forums - Android Central, Transfomer Forums.

But this tone is this thread, however banal some comments might be, is completely unnecessary and rude. Please refrain, remember what your mother said, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing. Exit the thread.

And my wish is to the moderators, start closing some of these threads, get xda back on track. If its a complaint, we are up to speed. If its a solution, please share!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 3rdamention:
The exact same could be said about your thread you link IN EVERY SINGLE THREAD about how there are really NOT any problems with the prime because you heard it straight from the horses mouth from your Secret, Unknown, Anonymous Insider.

You tell him to quit posting about his Netbook, and to stop nagging about it in every thread. Well I am going to ask nicely, the same thing. Stop posting your link in every thread, please! It is equally as annoying since your source is unproven, unnamed, and could be anyone or nobody.

Some of you are trying too hard. You complain about all of the negative posts and threads, but you GO WAY OVER THE TOP to try to prove there are no problems, everyone is too hard to please, take it back and dont post in these forums, read my thread that says there are no problems because a mysterious person said so, etc.

If you want the negative threads to stop, or the negative posts to stop, then just ignore them and do not post in them. Every time you do, you move it to the top of the forum for more to read. If all of the High and Mighty Veterans would ignore these posts, they would disappear in a day. Instead, you make ridiculous comments in them, and just continue to promote the thread, instead of ignoring it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dakine:
I think you should go play outside and not worry about things that don't really matter :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
What part of this video don't you understand? does he have a defective unit as well?

Just look at that crappy WiFi performance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzCZc3pjtrA&feature=player_embedded#!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pyro6128:
What app is this?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] makamobile:
i return my prime to BB and will not buy another one thats for sure. I still love asus i will try the 7 inchs prime but i think i cant wait too much for the release. I really like 7 inchs tablets what u think ppl ipad mini will come first that tegra 3 7 inchs tablets??? or google one???
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
That's the GPS Test that everybody's using to test their GPS, you have to download it from the Market.

and no that's not my device, I just grabbed that on web to compare how everyone here with the Prime are getting low/poor GPS readings compared to how it normally should look.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
what link? lol. plus I been revealed the source. Gary Key who is the representative for Asus who has been trying to help people here. HE IS THE ONE WITH THE STICKY THREAD AT TOP..DUHHH!

PLUS HE CAME OUT N SAID THE SAME THINGS I SAID IN VARIOUS THREADS WHERE PEOPLE DIDNT KNLW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.

THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION, ALREADY RECOMMENDED TO ME BY MODERSTOR TO STOP THE B.S. THREADS N POSTS, JUST REPORT THEM. WHICH I ALREADY HAVE N IM SURE OTHERS HAVE ALSO. ALREADY SHUT DOWN A FEW THREADS LIKE THIS ONE. THIS WILL BE NEXT...BYE ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdelliott31:
Sorry man. I think it's gutsy that Gary came on here, but he really hasn't helped much. No offense. I think RMA your units until there is personal resolution.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] micaman:
You see, I don't need to look at the video because I have been doing my own testing. My video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1go5mTceXo&context=C3cee84bADOEgsToPDskJ6z_sJvjbojLCUTdYOIPAz.

So yours is dropping out when its sits right next to the router eh?

Think you have a defective unit yet?

BTW you made me freeze my arse outside to upload that video
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
I have never once said WiFi drops next to the router if you actually read what myself and many others are finding and showing connection speeds instead of trying to defend a poorly designed Prime all the time.

I have always said WiFi next to the router on the Prime is significantly lower than every other device and is not consistent just like the video I posted just for your information shows this in detail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzCZc3pjtrA&feature=player_embedded#!

Just look at the rubbish speeds and erratic reception he has on the Prime thats only going through 1 wall exactly how my Prime performs when all other devices have no issues at all.

As for that video you posted you can actually see the same erratic reception as well just like in the above video which is due to the poor design of the aluminium back.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 3rdamention:
The link to your thread that you post every time someone has a problem. Your link where you argue that there are NOT big issues with the prime based on your source! Plus, Gary's tips for "Serial Number Unknown" are not working.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SlCKB0Y:
You do understand that a quarter of a years is three months? Q2 begins in two and a half months.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pyro6128:
What app was used for the wifi testing above that? Sorry for all the q's
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
The application is called "GPS Test", it's the same app. Look it up on the Android Market.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ermacwins:
Wouldnt Prime T700 be the only 1080p Tablet? I thought the Acer A700 is not for consumers?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
Well I've been doing just like most watching CES and Engadget - 2012 the year of 1080p tabs so they say, and theres manufacturers that haven't announced anything yet like Samsung and HTC (who are due something newer from their Jetstream) so anything is possible.

For me TF700T is the only one I'm looking at for the moment.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jzen:
I find it sad how many people feel embarrassed about their prime purchase, to the point that they have to find reasons to why they have it or pretend its the greatest thing since sliced bread (and they know its not but cannot accept the facts).

Wake up people, even asus admitted that all primes are defected, that is why they made a new one without defects and they plan to milk you for $100 extra just because it doesn't have defects.

Its very simple to understand why EVERYONE who has a prime has crappy wifi,gps and bluetooth.

Aluminum Metal Case = crappy wifi,gps and bluetooth.

Sure you can lie and say that your wifi, gps and bluetooth are sooo good that you can do things neo from the matrix can. But in the end you are only lying to yourself...

And for the people posting images of good GPS, get real. You do know that now Asus has rigged the TFP to automatically turn on Wifi Location whenever GPS is used. Try taking a drive without wifi (or wifi tethering from your phone), you will be in for a rude awakening.

I personally have reached my limit with this crappy device and the horrible community (except a few) that the TFP is becoming known for. Selling it for $600 to someone who is happy it has defects and only really wants it because its called a "Transformer Prime".

I will then be purchasing Samsung Series 7 chronos ultra light laptop and not have to worry about it being a POS. Or that it was engineered by below average monkeys!

This POS device makes Optimus Prime look bad, no wonder hasbro is suing Assus.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xAnimal5:
Good riddence. I'm honestly sick of your whining posts.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
Hes not whinning hes stating the true facts.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
Very sad that some people have to lie to make themselves feel better about their purchase and hate on anyone that does state the facts... very pathetic.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] idontknowu2:
What facts are those? I am lying to myself or trying to make myself happy because unlike you I like my purchase? I have the OG transformer and the G-Tab and I enjoy the Prime the most. Gps is not an issues for me but even without it, it is not a defective product. My wifi and bluetooth are working just as well as the tf101. If you look in the accessories forum, there are plenty of people who are not having these issues.

I really think that it is funny that all of these post are so positive that because some people have issues that everyone has issues and the product is therefore defective. All of this speculation and everyone feels that their opinion is correct.

If you dig through the TF101 thread when it first came out we had to deal with similar issues and questions of the transformer 2 coming out in Oct/Nov. Was that a model to fix the issues with the TF101? Or just the evolution of the technology and products that ASUS was working on.

Are people having issues, yes. Are all people having issues, no. Is Asus working on fixing the bugs? Yes. Is GPS ever going to be fixed? Who knows.

I only have one request, can we just move on and get to improving the experience of the owners? Lets bring this forum back to a place where there is useful info.

If you have an issue that is fine, but it should be more about fixing the issue and less about how we suck because we bought this thing. I understand people want to vent and that is fine but it is not helping things along. If your prime is having issues you really have a few options, return it (if possible) RMA it or try to PM Gary to see if he can help you.

Vent over.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
Agreed 100%
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jerdog:
Guys - the level of mudslinging needs to end. The next person who challenges this will find themselves enjoying a short vacation from XDA. You don't like your device - fine - do something else with it. Stop whining. Go away.

You like your device - fine - enjoy it. You are not being paid by Asus to promote their product, so don't feel like you need to get all hot and heavy and "come to their defense". It's the internet.

XDA Mantra

XDA-Developers exists for the developers and you come here and contribute of your own free will. Period. You don't like it - don't participate. You don't like that - go somewhere else. There are plenty of places that would gladly welcome your whining and complaining.

Let's break this down a little bit here - XDA is....

XDA is a developers site

XDA is a free forum you are ALLOWED to use. We could make it invite only

XDA is and always will be about the developers. And before you say without the users there would be no XDA, Bull****, who do you think used the stuff before normal people even knew what a smartphone was......wait for it.........other developers. People that could give good feedback with relavent info. Not just "dahhh this is broken, please fix".

XDA is not....

XDA is not a place to come and make your phone cool.

XDA is not the cool place for idiots to hang out.

XDA is not your friends house

XDA is not a democracy

XDA is not a place to make Money.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Semantics:
GPS Test is fun.

Evo 3D with WiFi and Mobile Network off (GPS on) :

Transformer Prime with GPS on and WiFi off :

Working as intended.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jzen:
Its not whining, its called warning others and helping them not make the mistake that many of us have. If a product is shipped and continues to be shipped that is very flawed and defective then I think others should know about it.

This seems to make others mad, but its the honest truth about the device and how us "whiners" are warning others of a bad choice.

XDA has a general forum, Where users can post whatever they want from reviews to warnings about defects in a device. Without users and so called whiners developers wouldn't exists and be out of the job. Without "whiners" warning others about defects and software related problems "developers" wouldn't know what to fix or develop next.

You won't see me posting in the TFP forum again, I have said all that I needed to.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] WasabiWa83:
^^^^^ This is the best post I've seen on XDA in a while. Especially in this forum. Just saying.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mattykinsx:
The problem is what you're saying is NOT happening.

What IS happening is the constant, repetitive, never-ending rehashing of the same thing over and over and over to the point that readers puke.

It would be one thing IF the posts were adding something to the list/discussion.

They aren't.

Now, lets move on.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
I agree and it is the warning others and the sheer number of complaints from the masses regarding the defective Prime that has made Asus act upon on it, without that nothing progressive would even be happening at all.

Thanks to everyone that has contributed. If I saw all the complaints sooner I wouldn't of even bothered getting a TF201. Now to send mine back for a full refund and get something better which does work as it should, hopefully the WiFi and GPS will be addressed properly in the TF700T.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jerdog:
And with that I think it's a good time to shut this thing down.
[A7 General] over's tab:
...or at least a thread dedicated to A7+

The A7+ is out there and it is different. How much is different I dont know, other then official specs. Maybe its still to new or the type of buyers (shopnbc) just dont visit forums like this. Is the A7+ even available anywhere else?

Anyway, i'm sure people are going to be interested in what applies to them and what is just exclusive to original A7, are any of the mods needed/wanted, etc.?

Shopnbc just did another bundle sale, so im guessing there are a lot out there, other thing is elocity mentions XDA so more of us "not to tech incined newb's" may be comming :eek:
[A7 General] wwinters43:
A7+ to update or not?

just got my A7+ at Christmas. There is an update available from 2.2 to 3.1 at the elocity site. has anyone tried it successfully yet?
[A7 General] over's tab:
I just tried yesterday with no luck, download failed (directly on my A7+)

Probably better for me anyway as I often open a can of worms when trying stuff like that without some guidance

I noticed for the A7 updates there are detailed instructions and you go through yor PC or Mac but no instructions for the 7+

Do I need to prep and save before an update? Also they don't decribe what update included
[A7 General] wwinters43:
i called the elocity help lline because i was unable to download the update to the tablet> they said it had to be downloaded to the a micro sd card and the installed from there.
[A7 General] mlk89119:
A7+

I really like this A7+. I updated to the new firmware -- it was painless. I'm not sure what was updated. It's still froyo.

It would be nice to have some mods for the A7+ to get the android market, google apps, etc. It sounds like people who used the A7 mods ran into trouble. Has anyone had success on the plus?
[A7 General] wwinters43:
i may give it a shot this Fri, it's my next day off that way i will have the whole day to devote to making the update work and not create a brick.
[A7 General] 2prettygirls:
Wow am I glad to find this page, I just purchased this tablet 7+ and already need help, btw it arrived yesterday from shopnbc after having a nook tablet, and hope someone can help me want to get my kindle books have the app however it says sync failed and there is no place to get my book from archive like I can on my Iphone. Secondly what is this new update and is it possible that I have it if so how would I find out. Thanks everyone will for sure be reading all I can about the tablet fron here love the developers.
[A7 General] kellmandroid:
Yes please, I want to love my new tablet so bad, but Froyo is keeping me from this, and firmwares ported over for the A7 don't work on the A7+. I would love to have Honeycomb or better yet Ice Cream Sandwich for this device. My wife has one of the cheap Allwinner A10 tablets and there are a ton of different firmwares for it. It will also play HD video, which is an issue for the Tegra 2 chip running less than Honeycomb 3.1