yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android General] bcool15:
keep boasting on this site n laugh ur assoff at att n soon no body will have that what do u think att reps who want promotions dont show this stuff to their bosses to get recognized?

this is a notorious thread i say delete all of ur posts if u want wat u got here ;)
[Android General] vinvam:
Same here. :crying: Called in once in the morning and although I played dumb, the rep knew I was using a Galaxy S3 and would not change me back to Medianet.

I did just just call in a few minutes ago with a dumbphone IMEI and had them switch me back. We'll see how long it sticks.
[Android General] haha111:
Do you guys know if there are any past incidents of t-mobile unlocked phones becoming flagged?
[Android General] brucedeluxe169:
no idea... but I was pretty shocked when I got hit by AT&T yesterday....

I'm probably gonna go to T-Mobile prepaid if I can't get ATT to change this back to medianet... **** their crazy data prices...
[Android General] dkotoric:
anyone using the nexus 4 on tmobile successfully

Sent from my HTC One S
[Android General] haha111:
Can you still verify that the lg optimus 4xhd still works on medianet?
[Android General] sk337sk337:
No :rolleyes:
[Android General] haha111:
Please tell me the international one x works at least :eek:
[Android General] sk337sk337:
^ that was sarcasm. Yes it does and the one x did too when I had it
[Android General] jcash74:
Is anyone else seeing data speeds of 2.72 mbps up and 1.75 down. Is this roughly average for medianet?

I'm using a n7000 with the Cingular apn.

Sent from the oGNote in black
[Android General] chrism.brunner:
Using my 4x hd now. Still good.
[Android General] kylem4711:
really wanting to get a S3 T999 but am getting scared now. you guys think its still worth a try??
[Android General] sk337sk337:
My 32 gb got hit on Wednesday
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
That sucks. I picked up a Verizon iPhone 5, and I'm curious if it works with MEdia Net. Too bad I just switched to Straight Talk.
[Android General] kaijura:
I don't think any AT&T rep is going to bother surfing through the web to find the list of working medianet smartphones unless they're really hurting for money. It's got to be a real small percentage of the network which we don't make a dent in the total number number of consumption/consumers under this plan.

Aside from the Nexus series, I think the older devices are more than likely locked in. Whenever AT&T gets a Nexus version of the phone, they obtain the IMEI algorithm and that means people who were previously undetected are under risk. Aside from a few rare ones (DoCoMo SGNexus, some Nexus Ones) Google devices have rarely escaped being added to the database.

The then-failed merger was one of the reasons to adopt pentaband support into most of this year's released T-mobile phones (if you did your homework, you know that T-mobile primarily operated their HSPA/UMTS on 900/1700/2100 bands otherwise known AWS). The merger fell through as most of us know, but several agreements (ex1, ex2) have since then came between the two carriers and lets T-mobile handsets to use AT&T's frequencies.

Since then, I am assuming these compatible T-mobile phones are subjected to their IMEI algorithms being added into AT&T's smartphone database. It almost always seems to happen once AT&T gets their own version of the phone.

Phones from the 2011 era (like SGS2, Desire HD/Inspire, etc) that have an international counterpart are still able to continue using medianet, but I think this is because the AT&T 'imei techs' haven't spent the time to go back and say, "hey, refine our database to include last year's phones too. "

So what does this mean?

My predictions:

BAD: Pentaband T-mobile devices (supporting 850/1900) from this point on are going to be risky, but if AT&T has their version, you can take your death walk.

Example: T-999 and i-747

SO-SO: International GSM devices are subject to chance, again if AT&T makes their own version; but it doesn't necessarily mean they will have the international IMEI algorithm.

Example: The One X has escaped detection, but the international i9300 isn't so lucky.

GOOD: Canadian devices (Rogers, Bell are 850/1900 carriers) still seem to be working without issues. Perhaps AT&T doesn't have agreements with them in order to obtain the IMEI algorithm for those Canadian devices.

Cliff notes: The easiest way to sum this up, I think the IMEI algorithm coded to their smartphone database is decided and manually added by each carrier. Google devices are an exception since their devices are open for anyone interested. Whether carriers share their information with another is a different story. Only AT&T seems to have a "add internet to your dumbphone" plan, so this would not apply to the others.
[Android General] BarryH_GEG:
Every carrier has access to the international database of GSM phones including AT&T. No decoding necessary. It's whether they choose to enter a specific phone in to their internal system for validation. The biggest mystery is why they'd don't flag every phone rather than picking and choosing. With a flat file database available it wouldn't be that difficult to import it and keep it updated.

​

Phone model numbers are imbedded in their S/N as a "TAC" (type allocation code) not unlike the VIN of a car. So AT&T carrying a version of an international device would have no bearing on whether or not it was flagged as AT&T's version of the phone would have a different TAC imbedded in its IMEI. So it would appear AT&T's adding specific TAC's to their database while ignoring others.

​

So I don't think anyone can predict which phones (other than Nexi which are always added) AT&T will add and which they'll ignore. I've been using a Teg3 One X on the data for non-Smartphones plan since March and a I9100 for about a year before that. I'm getting a N7100 on Wednesday so we'll see whether or not it gets flagged. I've also been using a 3G Note 10.1 (it's a phone as well as a tablet) on the same plan since August and that hasn't been flagged. My account was provisioned by Premier and neither line has an IMEI assigned to it which may or may not make a difference.
[Android General] kaijura:
Huh, interesting, took a look into it.

I've always wondered who runs the global IMEI database. Thanks for the education.

So you feel that other than the Nexus line, AT&T's just playing pick and roll with the 'illegal' medianet handsets? I wonder what about the certain cases, like the white i9100 showing up as a Blackberry?
[Android General] azncber:
Does the HTC One S International version work with the plan? I only see the Tmobile one listed in the OP...
[Android General] paperWastage:
depends on whether you're connected to HSDPA (at those speeds, probably yes), and how good your signal, interference, other people connecting to same cell tower

I get roughtly 2-3 mbps on my Amaze 4G (HSDPA)... but when I tether my tablet, my tablet hits 7mbps... no idea why
[Android General] azncber:
The Google LG Nexus 4 was just released recently and the specs are amazing! Do you think this phone will work with these plans? google.com/nexus/4/
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
Im guessing it will be blocked soon if it isnt already.
[Android General] joshyth:
Got a nexus 4 last night, but it will take 4-5 weeks wait ;(, but I will try it on media net plan first. if it doesn't work out...I will just switch over to tmobile, my contract being over for awhile.
[Android General] dkotoric:
using one now u won't be disappointed

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Android General] jcash74:
Does it actually work on medianet?

The device in black
[Android General] joshyth:
From what I heard on another forum, it work for the moment, but just like with gnex, who know how long it will last.
[Android General] fbk732:
any idea on what percentage of people with the tmobile galaxy s2 t989 are getting regular data plans added? kinda interested in the phone despite its lacking LTE, but definitely not if it the majority of people are getting it added almost immediately.
[Android General] Daedalus_:
LTE doesn't work on media net anyway.
[Android General] sumeet909:
Anyone using mid-tier phones not available in North America like Galaxy S3 Mini. I know not the ideal phone for us enthusiasts, but it presents an option particularly if you want to continue to be able to tether.
[Android General] joshyth:
i wouldnt really consider the Galaxy Ace mid tier, but it work on medianet plab.
[Android General] BarryH_GEG:
My N7100 has been on the data for non-Smartphones plan since Wednesday without any issues.
[Android General] joshyth:
being using mine since almost a month ago, still doing fine.
[Android General] dkotoric:
nexus 4 here since Wednesday so far so good

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Android General] Ronzalpha:
Does anyone know if the T-mobile version of the Note 2 work on Medianet? It's been a few months already. Any updates as of yet? I just got a T-mo note 2 as a present, but I currently use medianet.
[Android General] fbk732:
just got a tmobile htc one s off ebay. been trying to get rid of my nokia n8, its a great phone, just the app marketplace really ruined the experience for me. anyways, the seller posted in the auction that the imei was blocked from tmobile, which as far as ive read doesnt appear to be an issue as i will just unlock it and use it on att.

can anyone point me towards a guide/thread with details on how to get the tmobile one s up and running on medianet? pretty sure i will have to cut my sim down as ive had this sim for probably 4+ years now, but any definitive guides would really help me out.
[Android General] Ronzalpha:
A sure done method is to you to your local carrier store and they'll do it for you. They'll either cut it out for you or have a machine cutter to cut your sim card. And if they mess up, I'm sure they'll whip out another sim card for you for their own blunder.

If you're in a rush and prefer a DIY, just google "how to cut sim to micro sim." There are tutorials everywhere (as well as templates) for you to trim your sim card. If you're using templates, I suggest you to print out the template on a sticker, so it wouldn't move around as you're cutting it. Enjoy! ;)

edit:

Do you happen to use the t-mobile version by any chance or are you using an unlocked/rogers 7100?
[Android General] fbk732:
do you or does anyone else have any experience with blocked tmobile imei's being used on att? i was reading into it and it all seemed good to go, but then stumbled upon a bunch of sites like this one: wwwDOTgsmaDOTcom/technicalprojects/fraud-security/imei-database/ that showed a shared imei blacklist database.

im assuming that renders my tmobile one s with bad imei useless on att. Ugh. The whole imei blacklist idea is bass ackwards for so many reasons.
[Android General] Ronzalpha:
As I've known so far, IMEI databases aren't shared across companies. The only reasons they know (under logical assumption) is if you tell them that you have a smartphone. I've been using my unlocked Sony Xperia phone (Xperia X10 and Xperia Arc S) for years on the att netork with no problem, as mine registers under a different phone in their system. It's a bit confusing (and even now, I don't completely know how it works), but from past experience, this is the general gist of it. I know for SURE, that unlocked Sony (Ericsson) phones have no problems though. Maybe someone else can weigh in on this and enlighten everyone?
[Android General] joshyth:
I don't know why, but the arc s that I got for my sister showed up as palm treo, and it keep forcing me onto blackberry for her line...
[Android General] azncber:
I just got a HTC One S International Version and I'm only getting edge. Any help?
[Android General] dkotoric:
u need to change the apn

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
Has anyone tried a Verizon iPhone 5 yet?
[Android General] azncber:
What should the APN be set to? When I put in the sim it automatically set it to medianet wap.cingular which I had previous with my xperia ray.

Damnit I think it's because att here in Tucson runs 3g with 1900MHz band which means the One S will not get 3G with ATT's 1900 MHz, :(
[Android General] fbk732:
that website i put in my original post showed that they have started sharing imei blacklists as of november 2012. even if the tmobile imei blocked phone worked at first, doesnt seem worth the risk of it being blocked eventually.

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very curious of this as well. probably not too many people have both ATT and verizon to try to test this, but logically speaking theres a chance it could work(im hoping at least)
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I'm using Straight Talk with my Verizon iPhone 5.

If I can get donations, I'll activate a prepaid sim on the unlimited MEdia Net plan.

Edit: I went ahead and activated my AT&T nano sim on the GoPhone unlimited plan that uses MEdia Net.

If anyone would like to help me recoup the cost of the sim and service card, shoot me a PM.

You can buy a $50 GoPhone refill for $35 on eBay.
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
It works! MEdia Net with my Verizon iPhone 5!
[Android General] sk337sk337:
How long have you been using it?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
<30 minutes. GoPhone MEdia Net works a little different though. If I stick this sim in my AT&T iPhone 4S, data is blocked immediately.
[Android General] sk337sk337:
You may have just found the biggest loophole ever!
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
Lol. I bet it works with the Droid DNA too. Really any unlocked Verizon phone. I hope Verizon starts unlocking all of their phones.

Razr Maxx HD..... Oh yeah.
[Android General] me4tux:
Thanks

Thanks. Perhaps I guess I'll pass on the GNex for now. I did pick up a Moto Defy Plus instead although it's not the latest and greatest phone.
[Android General] dkotoric:
just to update the post Telus version of the Galaxy Fascinate 4g working perfectly

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Android General] sumeet909:
HTC Radar Works!

I added T Mobile HTC Radar to one of my lines and $10 Medianet a week ago. Confirmed, this is good.

I haven't tinkered with tethering yet. Anyone care to comment about light tethering? Any words of wisdom?
[Android General] sk337sk337:
Few phones for you to update.

Galaxy Note SGH-i717R - medianet capable

All versions of the Nexus One & S - flagged

LG G2X P-999 (T-Mobile) - medianet capable

HTC Amaze 4G (T-Mobile) - medianet capable
[Android General] dkotoric:
do we know for sure that the Galaxy Nexus is working on MediaNet for now
[Android General] lanwarrior:
Quick questions:

I am planning to get the Galaxy Note International version and use this with AT&T Medianet. I currently do NOT subscribe to AT&T wireless.

My questions are:

1). In order to get the SIM card and Medianet service, do I just activate a NEW line (with contract?) and select a dumbphone?

2). Is there a specific dumbphone that I should select so I can use the SIM card for that phone in the Galaxy Note?

Thanks!
[Android General] lsxrx7:
i have heard people reported the GNex is flagged :( (the i9250 version)

maybe the domoco version will get away ?
[Android General] sumeet909:
Avoid Galaxy Nexus and Note. They are very popular phones, I'd shoot for something low key.
[Android General] ckong1:
I'm hoping and praying that the international version of the HTC One X will work
[Android General] dkotoric:
well every nexus so far has been flagged but no reason to push people avay from the note, the gs2 was a much more popular device then the note and can still be used a year later.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Android General] lanwarrior:
Is MediaNet 3G or HSPA+?
[Android General] stumpyz9:
Depends on the phone. My telus DHD gets 3G an H. I think some phones can get LTE too if they have the right bands for it
[Android General] lanwarrior:
How about for the International, unlocked version of Galaxy Note?

Also, is MediaNet for non-smartphone ($15/month) getw HSPA too?
[Android General] stumpyz9:
Not sure on the note. It migjt be. And if you can find a dumphone that can get 4g than yeah
[Android General] sumeet909:
HTC Radar gets HSPA+

4 meg downloads and 2 meg uploads in Washington DC area.

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It had been working fine until I downloaded HTC Connection app from app store. Whatever it did, it made all the AT&T bloatware available in the Marketplace. It also blocked Internet sharing. There was nothing I could do to fix that and I had to reset the phone to get it working again. So, for win mo 7.5 folks with HTC phones:

1) disable all auto updates. Do updates with your SIM out if at all

2) don't download/enable HTC Connection app - it will lock features on your phone per the wishes of your carrier. You can manually update the APN to get data and tethering to work.
[Android General] RWALEY:
I can confirm that the Droid 3 works on the AT&T MediaNet plan.

A band unlock hack is required as detailed in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1406812

The Motorola Razr XT909 / IS12M also works on AT&T without detection.

Also, all variants of the International Milestone 1, 2, and 3 phones with 850/1900 GSM/UMTS are not detected and do work without issue on AT&T.
[Android General] lantern20:
I'm waiting for the Nokia Lumia 900 International, that should work on the AT&T 3G bands. Not sure if it will get picked up as a smartphone though.
[Android General] sumeet909:
APN Settings

What APN settings are you guys using?

I just have wap@cingular on my HTC Radar 4G

I'm wondering if one is better than the other w/ regards to tethering, speeds, detection etc.

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There's always a risk. I'd stay away from any phone that AT&T plans to get. The depreciation costs are too high in this technology. On a different note, does Nokia have some flavor of EFS folder just like Samsung Androids do that allow you to revert to a generic IMEI?
[Android General] RWALEY:
As far as I know, the MediaNet and basic data plan users only have access to wap.cingular.

If you go to your data usage page on the MyATT site and it shows HSDPPB with your data plan SOC code then you can use the phone or ptn APN for HSPA+ access.

Most of us will just have something like GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - MN21

That is wap.cingular APN access only.
[Android General] dkotoric:
can u be more specific on how u would u revert a Samsung Androids to a generic IMEI

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Android General] jcash74:
Just to make sure I understand this... The Verizon iPhone5 works on AT&T Medianet?!?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
Yup. I'm using it now.
[Android General] redthunda69:
Awesome to see confirmation of an iPhone on Medianet. I've been using my nexus 4 on medianet for a week now! If it gets flagged, I'll probably swap for a verizon i5.
[Android General] vinvam:
Give the Verizon iPhone 5 a week or so and them we can consider it 'safe'.
[Android General] nunyabiziz:
Iphones are att's bread and butter so imei from other carrier's will be in their database sooner than later.
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I doubt AT&T will be getting Verizon's ESN database anytime soon.

Will do. Prepaid MEdia Net has always blocked a known phone immediately.
[Android General] Notyours:
Does anyone have an update on a non-at&t lumia 920?

Thanks
[Android General] nunyabiziz:
I never said esn but imei. How hard would it be for att to ask apple for the block range of all Iphones 5 imei and flag all device that falls in between it?
[Android General] Daedalus_:
IPhone 5's have a unique TAC so it's really easy to tell if someone is using any kind of iPhone from their imei
[Android General] fbk732:
please do keep us updated. hafta wonder if thats just gophone, and wont work with regular medianet though.
[Android General] vinvam:
That's what I thought about the T-Mobile S3, but somehow they did get the IMEIs recently and add them to their database.

I realize it is a slightly different case here though.

I did not know that. :thumbup:
[Android General] dkotoric:
all tmobile phones are already or will be in att database now bc att and tmobile share their emei now for theft purposes

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Android General] fbk732:
they now share BLACKLISTED imei's. no word yet that they will share all imei's.
[Android General] dkotoric:
oooh ok did not know that

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Android General] Elsydeon:
For those that have ever gotten bumped to a smartphone plan, did it by any chance reset you to a 2 year contract as well? I'd really like to use my incoming Nexus 4 and am thinking, if I get bumped, to just leave it alone as long as my contract doesn't get renewed. Then once T-mobile picks up the 1900 3G band next year for the iPhone (just to ensure I future proof myself to be able to use any quadband 3G phone with them), switch to them.
[Android General] jcash74:
Nothing but the data plan changed for me. I don't see how they could renew your contract just with the change in data.

The device in black
[Android General] Daedalus_:
Your contract has nothing to do with the data.
[Android General] Elsydeon:
Thanks for the confirmations, I'm just getting tired of constantly avoiding the latest phones over a data plan I don't even use to its potential at all. So once T-mobile lights up the 1900 3G band here in Hawaii, I think I'll strongly consider moving on.

After getting bumped, was there the option to change down to the cheaper 300MB smartphone data plan? Or are you stuck with the 3GB $30 plan?
[Android General] Daedalus_:
You can always switch down without paying for the 3 gb if you didn't use much and didn't wait too long
[Android General] lolwatpear:
Can someone recommend me a <$200 phone what will work with AT&T for my Mom and won't get a data plan?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
The Galaxy S Blaze 4G should be compatible. You might be able to find an HTC One S for $200. The T-Mobile Galaxy S II is a good option, but some have been flagged.
[Android General] killme2:
Does the SGH-i717R still work? I ask because I was planning to get the SGH-i317M Galaxy Note II for Canada.
[Android General] chrism.brunner:
Yes it does.
[Android General] Elsydeon:
Well my Nexus 4 arrived, crossed my fingers, popped my sim in, and so far it's been 10 hours without any notice. Last time I got swept for having my sim in a Nexus One for all of 30 seconds, I got the dreaded message within 5 hours.
[Android General] yw2012:
My i9300 gets flagged almost every month during a sweep, but it doesnt get flagged instantly like an ATT phone. So I can always call in using a flip phone and change it the data plan back. I am thinking of switching to Xperia S since I heard it is still undetected so far.
[Android General] fbk732:
ive been using a nokia n8 on medianet for a few months now. just bought a One S and rooted and got the sim unlock code. then went to the ATT store and had them hand me over a micro-sim for free, they scanned it and now im kinda stumped. Do i just pop the microsim in the One S and enter the sim unlock code and im good to go? Scared that they will bump me if i dont do this right, and kinda confused as to how them just scanning the barcode on the sim punch card has now transferred it to my account.

tldr: how do i about popping new microsim into new HTC One S

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lg g2x has been going on ebay for roughly $115 in good condition. it only gets edge on att though. htc amaze 4g is certainly in her budget, and personally, i just got a One S with a slighly cracked but still functioning screen for $140. all those tmobile phones will obviously need to be unlocked though(which is either extra $ or extra time rooting and sim unlocking)
[Android General] Elsydeon:
The Xperia S is definitely still flying under the radar, and I would imagine would remain so indefinitely. It's such an obscure phone in the U.S, with no carrier carrying it. It's what I just came off of, and I've been using it for the past 3 months. Any GSM Droid RAZRs are also good ones too for the same reason, the GSM version is so obscure in the U.S. I'd really like Motorola to hustle along and release GSM versions of their RAZR HDs already for this reason, I'm surprised it's taking them so long.