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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Some people say they don't have it, some people do. As far as I've followed, it seems that newer models are at least functioning and I think one poster had success after an RMA. It's absolutely a h/w issue so there's no point in waiting for a s/w update to fix it, if that's what you're really wanting to know.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sledgie:
I'd have to finally agree. After waiting countless months for a "software" fix - which .21 is the closest you will see (maybe .24 will be better), I gave in and exchanged my BC0 with a C4 from Best Buy.

My own personal experience with BC0 was awful. I could connect only with the Apple BT keyboard without dropping signal over wifi...When I added My logitech vx470 to my prime it dropped the signal completely. Youtube and Netflix were a joke. I used it mainly for powerpoints and hdmi/netflix watching.

The wifi (for me) now in the C4 is much better. I'm still in the testing because I just exchanged it last night, but I can now connect to my next door neighbor's wifi. I don't have to tether to my epic 4g touch anymore 8 feet from me. Again, more bt/wifi testing I will comment about as it comes.

I'm currently connected with my Logitech vx470. My wifi strength went from -55db in wifi analyzer to -60db but it's hovering in the area with the BT connected. I haven't had any immediate disconnects but it's still in the testing. Btw, I decided not to update this C4 and stay on .15....

More will come obviously, but I wanted to state that in my experience, a lot of my resentment to Asus and the prime has gone with the immediate ability to connect via wifi to starbucks and my neighbor's wifi. It appears to me that something is changed...but without going inside or hearing from Gary Key, I cant say for certain. i will test with gps a little later, but for now it was really wifi and bt stress tests.

My only suggestion - In my experience I was so ready to be OVER the prime. I had an original BC0KA and it just...sucked. BT wouuld disconnect 5 feet from the device, without wifi on. I tried playing music through my **** earphones and it was a joke. I could even be sitting in front of the prime and it would still have problem steady streaming without breaking up. I obviously had a decent amount of interference with the 2.4ghz band. My suggestion would be if you are really finally ready to give up the frustration and you bought it frorm Best Buy - go to your local best buy. check online if you have to. find one in your area that has primes. I had to drive 56 miles round trip to pick this up. Call them, explain your situation. Ask if you can exchange. They might offer to send it back to exchange if none in stock, but your prime should still be under warranty. If you can exchange in store, ask for a C4. If only C3, exchange it and try. If the wifi isn't up to snuff, take it back or get your money back in store credit.

If on the other hand you are about to rma - write to Gary or whoever and request a C4. Forget these RMA horror stories. This is time wasting and such. Give the prime one more shot. Don't settle like I did for 4.5 months with a device that is sub par in the wifi dept and awful in BT and GPS. Don't expect to get a connection from your house to 3 houses over but good grief, we should at least be able to use this for it's portable uses.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] IceDrake:
Hey everyone.

After reading a lot of horror stories about TF201 and WiFi and lots of thinking (Including a little convincing push from the guy at the store, who showed me it was a C4 model and said the newer ones had that problem dealt with), I've decided to finally give in and bought it.

While I haven't done any extensive tests with it yet (and probably won't bother either), I did obviously connect it to WiFi and it seems to work well (or at least well enough for me). It has maintained a steady connection to my neighbor at around -78dBm all night and sees my router behind "1.5" walls at -68dBm, which is enough for me, as my other devices aren't doing significantly better anyway.

Overall, I'm satisfied with this and even if my WiFi is worse than average at the end of the day, it still works good enough for me to see my immediate neighbors (wherever they are), and that's what I hoped for from the beginning when I bought the device.

So yeah a C4 here and WiFi is quite functional.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] good4y0u:
I'm still waiting on a PM sent to Gary from 3 weeks ago..and I'm re sending in for rma there are damages on my tablet and pictures to prove it
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoMagus:
This thread is about wifi/bt problems hook up something like Bluetooth headphones and stream music / play Netflix+run speedtest and show us you don't have huge bandwidth dropoff compared to before you connected the headphones and started the music/Netflix that is the issue here. Some can do it some can't some peoples even disconnect. It's funny a couple of new C4 owners have come on here saying everything is fine (like I did when I first got mine before I started digging into threads) but no real proof everythings working as it should. Just as in any other case it seems hit or miss you'll either have the problem or you won't. My wifi is fine as well before on my C1 the problem is once I connect my headphones I'm no longer getting 20mbs I'm getting 2mbs
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoMagus:
If you haven't read Gary has pneumonia so he prob won't answer for a while
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] good4y0u:
OH! , i knew he was sick but i didn't think it was going to be THAT sick ...now i feel bad >.<
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] IceDrake:
My bad. I must've mistaken this thread for another when I came back to it.

While I don't have a BT headset (and probably won't in the near future), I did run SpeedTest by itself and while I was transferring a file via BT from my laptop. Without the transfer, the download was at ~160KB/sec, upload at ~115KB/sec and ping at 35msec (which is slow, but normal in my case). During a file transfer via bluetooth, the download dropped to 25KB/sec and upload to 40KB/sec (the device was receiving the file), ping was up to 70msec. I tested at least twice in both situations and the results were nearly identical, so it has to lean towards Bluetooth (whether hardware or software) rather than just a "bad run".

I also did the same thing with my Samsung Galaxy S, where a small WiFi drop was still evident, but it wasn't as drastic as the TF201: 170KB/sec down, 100KB/sec up to: 100KB/sec up/down, ping didn't change).

So yeah, if we do use Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time, I suppose there is a problem with that - they must be interfering with one another, and more so in the TF201 than in the SGS that I have. I'm glad that I barely use bluetooth for that to bother me, though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] smachine:
its sad that my tablet cant even be used in my house. Router is upstairs and when i get to the living room i get 1 bar and speeds drop from 20mb to 300kb. Ends up just being in bed. Not sure which model i have F4? SN starts with BCOK
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
someone that has this issue really bad and is rooted, check out my performance improvement thread in my signature. someone came in and said when they applied the modded. build prop, it solved their BT/wifi streaming issues. would love for more people from this thread to test it out to see if it really does help/eliminate this issue. this guy said he streamed 3 simultaneous videos from YouTube, with stickit floating media player, and listening to them at the same time through his BT headphones. no dropouts.

need more feedback/proof of it works or not in helping/eliminating BT/wifi streaming issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
Awesome Wifi-Bluetooth performance!!!

As Demandarin mentioned yesterday I streamed 3 HQ youtube streams simultaniously while listening with my Motorola S9 headset.

NO LAG OR BUFFERING

Today I got jolly and adventurous.

I thought I would put the Prime to the test.

AWESOME!!!!!

;-)

I had 7 (YES!!!! ..... SEVEN!!!) simultanious HQ Youtube streams playing.

No lag or buffering.

It is only when I take a screenshot that the streams start to show video artifacts or the Prime crashes.

But if it doesn't crash and besides the video artifacts the streams still continue without lag or buffering. So the artifacts or the crash is memory or processor related.

ASUS (GARY) EXPLORE THIS TWEAK AND INCORPORATE IT IN YOUR NEXT OTA
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] banderos19:
Assuming dingdonggggg had the usuall issues with the bt/wifi combination before, this would be a good indictation that this problem is indeed a software issue, and not, to our dismay, a hardware issue

As demandarin said, anyone here on this thread experiencing these problems are perfect test subjects (minus the needles), if anyone is willing, you might wanna look into testing a modified build.prop,

Disclaimer there have been a very small number of reports of soft bricking, looks like we need specified build.props, depending on your prime setup

To demandrin, do you think its worth getting people to post their build.props, and as much info on their system

i.e.

Region?UK

Rom?Virtuouse/Latest

Rooted?Yes

Unlocked?Yes

and getting someone with experience, to modify them for us

For instance, if my build.prop was modified and tested to work, you could put that modified build.prop on your thread with my prime setup information as a compatibility guide line, and anyone who has the same setup could try that build.prop, instead of every prime user asking individually

Unless offcourse Rom developers are willing to test and integrate these tweaks into their roms, i know Jermaine has expressed an interest in doing this with his aokp rom, hats of to him, but thats not to say every rom developer will do the same.

And then theres the iminent official rom thats supposedly round the corner, even im considering waiting till then, save me doing this all over again, perhaps others are thinking the same?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Evo4sickness:
I agree with everthing that was said above and Ding can we see some video of the 7 not saying I dont believe you just wanted to see the performance in action. I would also like to test this out but would rather flash it with a rom. I read the instructions yesterday and it seem a bit complicated.

My second question is how far from the router and what were your wifi speeds.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
I changed also my prop now (thanks to Mekrel)

I will test the WiFi/BT issue later.

Anyway I am not forgiving Gary for having forgotten this thread!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dingdonggggg:
Just for all of you that want to see proof.

It is rather useless to post a video for they might as well be playing directly from the prime.

However I have scientific proof.

I tested my network throughput the only way it should be done.

Not bars or speedtest or etc.

No I used Iperf

I did 5 tests with bluetooth off and 6 tests with the prime connected to my Motorola S9 headset.

Just have a look at the pics below.

1. bluetooth off - average 17,6 down / 14,7 up

2. bluetooth on - average 18,3 down / 15,3 up

With bluetooth on even better throughput then off.

But probably it will be equal to each other.

Just need to do more test to equal them.

HERE IS THE SCIENTIFIC PROOF

BLUETOOTH- WIFI ISSUE IS RESOLVED

NO THANKS TO ASUS BUT MANY MANY THANKS TO SEANZSCREAMS

HAIL SEANZSCREAM

PLEASE OP OF THIS THREAD

GARY???

I wonder if he is still reading this thread.

I have not seen him post for a while :rolleyes:

PLEASE OP EDIT TITEL OF ORIGINAL POSTE TO SHOW 'RESOLVED' AND PLEASE SHARE THE SOLUTION WITH EVERYONE ELSE AND INCORPORATE IT IN THE NEXT OTA.

AND PLEASE SEND A BIG THANKYOU NOTE TO SEANZSCREAMS

Thanks everyone for not giving up and super thanks to seanzscreams.

Please go over to his thread at the TF301 and hit his thankyou button.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1641219

1st By the way.

I think this is news for the front page of XDA. Bring out the cake :p

2nd By the way. :D:D:D

Recieved my GPS dongle today.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AND

HA

ASUS RELEASE THE UNLOCKER WITHOUT WARRANTY LOSS

THE DEVS HERE WIL FIND A REAL SOLUTION

Just last week I recieved my super gumdrop case (check it out, super duper)

Thats what I call a formfactor.

Where the F.... should I put my uhm ......... hahahaha ....... dongle???
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
the instructions not complicated. its just detailed with info and how to get out of jam if you run into one.

---------- Post added at 12:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:12 PM ----------

lol..we need more test subjects before it can officially Resolved. results sound promising but don't want to get peoples hopes up till more confirm it. glad its working for you though.

Try to get more to test out ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] good4y0u:
Wait it won't get rid of your warranty if you unlock??????
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
Lol, that's his rushed grammar for "ASUS, please don't void our warranty when we unlock," he's not saying it suddenly doesn't :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] newellj79:
Bluetooth being on and connected or off is not the problem. The problem occurs when pushing something through it. Were you pushing any sound thru the headphones? Just curious. I haven't had time to test much. I changed the build.prop. Youtube did stream half way decent while using my motorola bt set. Netflix however was still a solid no. Buffered every 2-3 seconds. :( I'll look at it more when i can find time.

Edit... By the way I have a BCOKAS
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] good4y0u:
Aha awh....:( I was excited!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
The issue is not fixed by the mod. prop.

I tried right now, and it's still buffering and dropping the quality of the WIFI connection with BT headset

Where is Gary? We need news!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] good4y0u:
Sick. With something not fun as iv been told, hopefully he will be back soon I just sent my tablet in for another Rma hopefully they fix my wifi again AND the dent they put in last time! If not I'm going to call again.and resend an update to gary. I'm seriously sick of this.....its a pain in the butt...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] diecast17:
I just tested my PRIME with my Original Transformer and they have the same dropout with Wi-Fi while streaming audio over bluetooth. Very sad
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
this isn't an Asus specific issue. all devices have some sort of drop off when both wireless signals used at the same time. some companies are better than others at minimizing the impact. try the build.prop mod and see if it helps out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
Sorry but I do not agree with on this one.

IPad2 works flawlessly with WiFi/BT and streaming whatever. I use it for streaming Youtube, Veetle and so on.

Right in the same spot (my couch :p) the Prime is buffering every 10 secs.

If I move closer to the router then I manage to use the Prime too for same purpose, but it still drops WiFi speed a lot.

I have 30/30 mbit fibre, so it's not lack of "power".

Even my Samsung Galaxy S Plus with And. 2.3.5 can do the same.

So yes, this is an ASUS problem.

BTW the mod. prop. as I wrote previously did not help here.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] neo1738:
So I did the build.prop this morning and my prime is working wonderfully. The most degredation I get is 25%. I think the thing is ASUS uses the same controller for wifi/bt where as some companies use separate. This could be part of the issue. So now that being said, I have a BCOK model Prime, and have sent it in to RMA for screen and wifi/bt issues. They replaced the wifi and bt hardware. I'm wondering if you not only have to have hardware of newer models and this build.prop for it to work. I sent my prime in March, got it back in April.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
Mine was rma'ed too. They changed parts too nd it's BCOKAS... No improvements. I think we test maybe differently, but I am happy yours it's ok.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] neo1738:
I originally did all testing trying to file transfer a large file over bt and it would cut out completely. Sent to RMA, would keep maybe 5% of signal. With this test I had textab and a bt mouse going at the same time and it was enough to drop down to about 5-10% wifi. Did the Build.prop and I get 75-90% wifi speeds. I will try bt file transfer (much more like streaming music to headphones) friday after my big exam.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Crazy thing is we will have people with your same devices saying they do have drop off :P

Build.prop mid working for me n slot of others. You sure u did it right? u set permissions correctly? Did u make sure u actually using new one & not still using old one? :)

Glad its working for u.

You brought up a good point. companies are moving more towards wifi/bt on same controller because it saves money & space. actually this is the trend most companies are using now. so when they do, they do there best to minimize degredation.

this is not an asus only thing. just google n you will see tons of different devices suffering from it.

Overall, the build.prop mod seems to be working great for most.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
The build prop and the Prime are working perfectly, for all the rest. As I said WiFi/BT is OK too in same room with router, as it was without the build prop, but I test same places all the time, and where the IPad2 and the Galaxy S+ works the Prime does not.

The build prop is not the solution for the Prime, but it's just improving MANY other things, battery, smoothness and so on.

BTW which is the old and the new one??
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] neo1738:
To note for those that are rooted, you can just copy and paste using es file explorer. Make sure you go to menu, add "for root" settings checked so you can see the system menu. There you change the build.prop to build.prop.bak and just copy and paste the new one to the same location. Reboot and you're good. SUPER Easy don't need to adb it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
By old I meant your otiginal build.prop. new meaning modified one. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] neo1738:
Just to clarify for you, if you didn't remove or rename the old build.prop file you're probably still using that one. You need to rename the original build.prop to something like build.prop.bak and then put the new one in the same folder as the old one. You probably already know this but just in case you missed something or whatever.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] asalott2:
Finally!

This is my 5th Prime, I started with a C2 with wifi issues and also received a C3 with the same issue. I received two C4's that were defective (one with rattling from the vibration sensor and one with no backlight) but the 5th one was the charm. No WIFI issues whatsoever! Not one disconnect. I am happy, but it took 5 flops. Also the GPS dongle works great, my tablet has the same GPS connection as my EVO 3D.

Best Buy was very patient with me and never gave me any issues with their return policy. Overall it was a hassle, but I'm hoping for everyone else's sake that the C4 revisions will work better for everybody.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] good4y0u:
I'm wondering when Gary will be back
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
with 300 just launching and the infinity pad & asus Padfone coming up, I'm sure he is busy. he will be back.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
Guys.. the build prop is not the issue.

The old one is moved on the sd card and renamed as .bak

The prop works fine, BUT not for this WiFi/BT issue.

Gary needs to get back here and find solutions like they managed with the GPS dongle.

I am 99.9% sure that they can just improve this, but for a final solution they have to re-think the hw design.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] newellj79:
I agree but alas I don't think a fix is coming. It's been to long. Maybe they will get it right with the Infinity.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bimbobo:
Yeah.. but I think that:

1) he opened this thread with which purpose/result? We all know what the issue is and how to repro, and many of us have even RMAed the Prime like they suggested, no improving.

2) Gary wrote about new firmwares that "should address the problem", have we seen them? No! Actually 21 increased the battery usage (now solved/ improved with the modded build.prop) and the WiFi performance with BT is still the same.

3) If they really gave up (and will admit it, which is a bad PR thing to do), why do not close this thread he opened himself, and tell us "Rest In Peace"?

As long as they do not admit the failure in resolving this I will "politely" hammer them once in a while. Because My Prime would be perfect if I could use BT and Wifi with streaming and especially with Skype.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] vvveith:
From the wisdom of experience!

You sir, deserve a medal! This is the best and seemly only course of action one can take at this point in time. While we wait for things to get legally scrutinized, we can occasionally and politely address issues most of us are having. And even though I'm not a fan boy of any manufacturers wares, I look at investments I make as valuable and want to have everything I was promised when my money was taken. I am just one person, so my money is figured with the equation x1. Asus is a x1 to the power of 100 dollar company. So my 500 dollar investment equates to 500,000 dollars of their money and that's how much they should be using to address these known and posted by them, issues. To me this is neglect on their part and should be voiced frequently and without favoritism. If I sold you a product personally and you were not happy with it, I would jump through hoops to try and bring you to a place of satisfaction because I value your dollar as much as you value the device/service in question. Run this through the same mathematical formula and you can see what I'm driving at! No one in this forum should be making excuses for a million dollar corporation to not treat us as valued customers. There is no excuse for such poor relations. So sound off and let them know that we are not going to let this slide, either give us the fix or admit that there can be no fix and make some sort of effort towards restitution, that is trustworthy, reliable, and consistent in a timely manner. We need more consumers like you, for the squeaky gear will get the oil. Peace, V ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] newellj79:
I agree. But what I think is. They messed up using a wifi/bt combo module. Which is why we have such drop off. They messed up by using the alluminum back plate. Which is why we have such horrible wifi reception. Neither problem is a ez, cheap fix. So they haven chosen just to ignore it at this point. When this thread was open I believe they honestly thought it was a software fix that did'nt neccassarily plague every unit. Now that they know it does, and are not willing to fix them because it simply isn't cost effective, they will just ignore it. I would bet that shortly after the Infinity comes out, this model disappears. Yes, the 300 may have wifi/bt drop off (not sure first hand), the fcc filings stated up front that they don't work at the same time. That is not the case for this device.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] barryflanagan:
My Prime is increasingly becoming my sole non-desktop piece of kit. I really love it. However, this means I am increasingly using it for remote desktop work for extended period of time. I use (or more accurately would like to use) my Bluetooth mouse for this.

Unfortunately due to this wifi/bt issue the mouse is frequently unusable and I am stuck using the touch pad.

This is basic stuff, and something that the Prime should take in its stride but does not. Very frustrating.

I agree it should not be let rest
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] good4y0u:
Tis a sad day
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cvflowe:
+1
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] good4y0u:
Gary has been sick for a while...