yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android General] kaijura:
Hmm picked up a p6800, got swept the same day I put the sim in. AT&T OLAM doesn't detect the model, but I did get the text. Is weird cause this is an international only tab, although Verizon has a model.

AT&T Free Msg: Did you know a data plan is required for your Smartphone? We have added an appropriate data plan. Learn more at www.att.com/dataplans

Interesting thing is that it's a tab, not exactly a smartphone. Calls and text work though.

Wonder if it's because it's using stock Samsung OS from some agent / id string that caused it to trigger.
[Android General] bedwa:
Experiment time: to find out, modify the apn to not include the proxy, (I make a wap.cingular apn without any mms info as I use GV) give IMEI of phone non-detectable and try again. If detected, Samsung has given them the imeis.
[Android General] sucsss:
an easy way to check is.

goto another line where att shows the correct phone, and click on the "View Tutorials for this device."

then on the next screen, on the left side where it's showing the picture of the phone and number, click on "Change"

a list will show up, and it'll show the model number of all your phones.
[Android General] stunner2:
Is anybody still using HTC One S and make it work? I was flagged couple of times. I switched sim to my dumb phone and got the data plan switched back. I can use the phone and it is fine as long as no data is used. Currently it is not recognized on my AT&T account, it shows my dumb phone. Is there an APN setting that I can try to avoid being detected? Thanks
[Android General] james11417:
Very useful. Mine shows up properly apparently, even though there's no picture. Oh well, I'm migrating between this and a Nokia n97. Thinking about getting the n9 for cheap though since my n97 barely works now.
[Android General] imba_kan:
nice

nice info thread starter :good:
[Android General] kaijura:
Nice, never knew about this trick. Looks like they have my tab number in there without a photo of it.
[Android General] mailliw320:
Can someone PM me the list, please?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I'll message everyone who messaged me tomorrow when I have access to a computer.
[Android General] sucsss:
So they detected you the day you put the sim in? Or was it on a billing cycle change?

Trying to figure out their sweeping frequency.
[Android General] lovem:
You can also access the list of phones on the account by going to the support tab > wireless support, then towards rhe right of the screen where it says change, click the down arrow and it will show the correctly detected phone in use.
[Android General] kaijura:
I'm just taking a guess here and I could be wrong. I think it has to do with the region you are in.

I've got flagged probably about a handful of times in total. All the times I was flagged in California was within 24 hours after putting the SIM in. I was in rural Virginia for some time and it took about a week or more to flag a motorola flipside that I had back then.
[Android General] lovem:
Anyone still having success with Canadian S 3 varients working or are they in the same boat as the Note 2.
[Android General] sucsss:
Interesting. It's always been once a month for me. But I'm in Kentucky to Chicago.
[Android General] bcool15:
flagging procedure

flagging procedure, has definitely changed, as we all know, a friend of mine works att and advised that somehow phones now report its OS to network...i dont know how valid this theory is...but my phone doesnt get bumped if data is switched off...

IMO imei's register with network regardless of data on or off...its the list network acquires from manufacturers

I could be very much wrong...

HOX intl
[Android General] nurav666:
Can I get the list?

Hi all,

Could I please get that list? I am in the market to buy an android phone and I want to make sure I don't buy the wrong one.
[Android General] Zaiaku:
White s3 international
[Android General] redsrule2500:
What about White S3 international?
[Android General] redsrule2500:
Anyone know of a keyboard android phone that will work w/ medianet? I'm still using my old droid 1 (milestone) from telus. NEED an upgrade soon. fg

(Please send me the list!)
[Android General] azncber:
Sent you the list!
[Android General] Charleee:
can you send me the list as well? thanks
[Android General] Ronzalpha:
update: I got the 6602 variant less than about a week ago and it got flagged today.
[Android General] Endlessknight:
Anyone know it the Verizon iPhone 5 has been flagged? If not can you just purchase one off ebay, cut a standard sim down to nano size, and use it?
[Android General] azncber:
It's flagged. ATT recognizes it as an Iphone5.
[Android General] Endlessknight:
That sucks, doesn't seem like there are many phones left that aren't flagged.
[Android General] dtrinh4000:
does the age of the sim card count? my sim card is back from 2001 when ATT was still cingular. i've been using an international galaxy s2 black that was orig. from south america without issues. Want to upgrade my phone soon. Is ATT's ability to detect a smartphone based on sim card data?
[Android General] chrism.brunner:
I'm not totally sure, but I just went in to get a new sim card. Everything still works fine......
[Android General] bedwa:
Shouldn't. I know going through the proxy can help the device report additional info, plus their IMEI database. That OS reporter has been there for at least 2 years as it was used to determine if an iPhone was up to date for technical support when I was still there.

On another note, I got two Droid 3s for a couple last week and they have yet to be pegged with smartphone data.
[Android General] kaijura:
Seems like these days, it's either find an old device that slid through the cracks, or get a new international model and enjoy it while it lasts before it gets added to the database.

I do question if some of us are getting flagged by device flags/default apn settings, and not from the IMEI database. That would mean stock rom settings ie: touchwiz, sense, etc.

Someone here got their sgs2 flagged but I have the same model and hasn't happened to me over a year, and I think we have the same phone that was released from the same carrier.
[Android General] phoenixforce:
Saw a deal for an LG Optimus L9 with Prepaid t-mobile service. Does anyone know if this will get flagged by AT&T?

Can someone send me the list?

Thanks
[Android General] azncber:
Sent you the list but most likely tmobile phones won't work because they share their blacklisted IMEIs with att now.
[Android General] faraband:
I have tested 2 of the phones on the list, and both are running well. They are the two best android and most powerful android devices on the list. Due to circumstances, i will not name them here.

Thank you everyone for the help and for the list. Good Luck!
[Android General] Andy805888:
star i9220 n9000

Hi Everyone, i just saw A China made smart Phone " ostar i9220 n9000" n Amazon, Can the star I9220 work without AT&T data plan ? Have anyone tried using it before? Thanks!
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I bet it would since it's an obscure Chinese phone.
[Android General] elms36:
Can someone send me the list? Thanks in advance.
[Android General] Andy805888:
Thanks Mr.Mischief, can you please send me the list?
[Android General] gtmaster303:
Please PM me the list

Thanks!
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
what if we want to use non-at&t branded phones WITHOUT ANY data plans,will at&t still add a data plan to the bill?

like say... I get a droid dna and turn off cellular data and just use talk and text,will that work?
[Android General] killme2:
Based on what I've read, yes, they will still add a data plan. With that said, I've been using an iPhone 4S for the past 2 months and they haven't added a data plan yet. I don't know why, but I'm not complaining.
[Android General] sheik124:
I'm genuinely curious as to how the hell I'm still undetected.

I had a rep add MediaNET for me in 2007 when I was using a Samsung BlackJack (purchased from at&t right when the changeover happened). Had them keep it when I upgraded to the BlackJack II in store, and then when Premiere sent me an email about a $150 Fuze (HTC Touch Pro) I had the rep on the phone keep the plan.

Since then, I've been through about half a dozen phones, all of which are listed as flagged in this thread; I used all of them well after they were flagged (I'm using one now). Do they scan based on account age or something? I've used unbranded phones, T-Mobile phones, Rogers phones, and Bell phones, nothing. Not once have I put my SIM in an at&t smartphone since the Fuze though.

Meanwhile, every single person I've recommended mediaNET to, some even purchasing devices right as I did, have been caught. For example, Galaxy Nexus: Very similar IMEIs, friend got caught damn near immediately, I flew under the radar for three billing cycles, then the damn phone broke. We both bought them on the same day.

Lord knows I'd GTFO the second they end my party, I've got more than a couple lines contract free at the moment.

Is it because I used my SIM card in a new goPhone once (received a minute credit, thought it was odd) as a spare phone? What the hell is it?
[Android General] paperWastage:
the device reports it's IMEI number to the cellular network. If AT&T's list of IMEI says it's a smartphone (droid dna is apparently on their list), then you'll be detected (maybe not this month, but if a sweep comes along, your account will be flagged)

luck? unless someone inside at&t explains how their sweeping works (random, during end of billing cycle, during end of month, ...), it's hard to say

we just know that at&t detects IMEI. they could be using other methods as well
[Android General] reefcrazed:
Could someone PM me with the list? I am in the market now for a new phone
[Android General] Alucard400:
All I can assume right now is.. Sweeps are different by region. With IMEI being the base part of it, then a second type is done such as OS type or maybe account age. I am thinking, some accounts might be pre labeled as dumbphone, so non AT&T branded phones are bypassed whether theyre' smartphones or not. While later and new medianet accounts are flagged easier. Maybe we should all say how old our accounts are.

II've had my account flagged just once. A T mobile smartphone did it. 3 year old Canadian phone not flagged. My account is about 10 years old from when it was still Cingular
[Android General] livingitup:
I think the account age has definitely has something to do with it, as in, they pay closer attention to more recent accounts. Another possibility could pertain to the account type, ie: regular, Premier, FAN.........etc. Perhaps the business accounts are subject to less stringent screening? Mine is an individual responsibility premier account.

I've been with ATT since 2005 and have had the mediamax 200 (unlimited non-smartphone data, 200 text) plan for nearly 7 years and the only time I was flagged was when I put my simcard into an ATT blackberry for a few hours and got the "did you know a smartphone data plan was required............." text message. I put the simcard back in my N8 and everything was fine.

Since then, I have used several Symbian devices and was never been flagged once. For the last 4 months I have been using an unlocked, T-Mobile branded WinMo device on the above mentioned plan and haven't had any issues. Go figure...............
[Android General] Ronzalpha:
it's definitely not by IMEI lookup. I checked my IMEI and all the online registries and all of them recognized a valid IMEI but didn't have any info on my 6603 Sony Xperia Z at all. Only one website recognized the IMEI, but listed it as a different phone - a Nokia 6230 (yes, that former indestructible phone).

And yet, I was still changed from my medianet plan to a 3GB one once it was close to my billing cycle. The sweep system is probably now either based on different IMEI's (if you've changed from their registered one), or the SIM now reports OS info.
[Android General] psgmr:
Safe List

Hi there,

I have a work-provided dumb phone that I have to now carry in addition to my personal smartphone. The work-paid phone is a Samsung Rugby II, voice plan, plus unlimited SMS. If I'm carrying around two phones, I'd rather carry something more...modern. Only stipulation is that we're not allowed to have data plans, and I really would like to avoid an awkward conversation with my employer about why AT&T added a data plan to the business premier account.

Been doing a lot of research on it, and it led me here. I'm looking to fly under the radar and avoid having the data plan tacked on (I don't care about adding MediaNet, as I just want to use the phone as voice + Wi-Fi).

Could someone please PM me the verified working list so I can look at what options are out there? Looks like most of the Samsung phones are no-go. Thank you!

Edit: And yes, this is my first post. Long time lurker, first time poster.
[Android General] vinvam:
Does anyone have any suggestions for a Medianet safe phone under $100?
[Android General] theman22:
I'm looking to upgrade my i9100 international which still hasn't been flagged after a couple years. I've been using HDSPA+ on a medianet plan with no problems.

I'm trying to decide if it makes sense to get a phone that supports the AT&T LTE bands. The LTE phones use more battery so I don't want to get a LTE phone unless I can actually use it with the medianet plan. I've read that I may be able to get LTE with medianet if I get a new sim card but what I'm reading is not clear. Is this something I should consider or should I get a HDSPA+ phone that is cheaper and more battery efficient? TIA
[Android General] vinvam:
Even if you get a phone with the proper LTE bands you will not get LTE on the Medianet plan. In fact you're not even getting full H+ speeds because the Medianet gateway is limited to 7.2mbs (IIRC).
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
The fastest I could ever get on MEdia Net was 6MB down, 1MB up.

If you'd like the list, message me.
[Android General] azncber:
That's 6MB/s or 6Mb/s? Megabyte vs Megabit?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
Only one of those would be possible, so I think it's pretty clear;)
[Android General] azncber:
I was hoping for 6MB/s hehehe. That would be truly amazing if they eventually offered LTE speeds for dummy phones hahaha.
[Android General] ascensi0n:
Hello been a long time lurker and am looking to get a new phone.. Was wondering if somebody can PM me the list for the phones.. Thanks in advance..
[Android General] vinvam:
So does anyone have any suggestions for sub $100 media net capable phones?
[Android General] brdl04:
Could I get a PM'ed Updated list?

Thanks in advance.
[Android General] Ronzalpha:
Basically, any non-smartphone. If you want a smartphone at that price, you're probably looking at one of those first, 2nd or maybe 3rd generation of phones, such as the Sony Xperia X10. They're so slow and buggy compared to today's phones, i personally don't recommend much. If you're looking at a possible decent one, expect to spend $200+ for a decent unlocked one.

Iphones are out of the question, but I've heard some Windows Mobile phones have had some luck.
[Android General] bedwa:
Get a milestone 2 or Droid 3. I have found some on eBay for under $100 and applied the baseband mod. Look over at swappa too.
[Android General] vinvam:
The phone is for a family member that doesn't require a data plan, however would like to have Wifi at least.

She had a Droid 2 Global with the TBH mod, but the touchscreen seems to have died. I picked up a Droid 3 as a replacement but getting a working unlock code has been a PITA -- the ones I purchased online did not work and I have no way of getting the Verizon supplied code. Just wanted to see what else was out there.
[Android General] bedwa:
Ugh.... I've heard of that. I haven't had one of those yet, but I guess I've been lucky.
[Android General] paperWastage:
It's all about where ATT gets the data from. The manufacturer might give it to them (Apple), or the source of their info is better updated or less updated than the online registries

either way, Sony Xperia Z is out. T-mobile will be getting a version of it, and they share it with ATT

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/01/sony-xperia-z-tmo-fcc/

EDIT: Well, the t-mobile version is C6606... but I still wouldn't touch any Sony Xperia Z/ZL phones
[Android General] akashanksta:
Yeah, I know that method is for an android phone, but I was wondering how I could delete my ESN folder for my windows mobile focus s?

I have an unlimited medianet data plan for my dumbphone.

any help would be much appreciated!
[Android General] stumpyz9:
There would be no folder like that on a wp7 device
[Android General] akashanksta:
So is there anyway to use an ATT Focus S with my medianet plan?

Thanks!
[Android General] hp79:
Probably not.. At least not in a Android forum.

Anyone know why that other guy's Android phone doesn't work on AT&T with no EFS folder? I hope he was not talking about US AT&T. If so, maybe they don't accept unknown IMEI number any more.
[Android General] sk337sk337:
You can't register an unknown IMEI on AT&T. It's basically like a "blocked item"
[Android General] dkotoric:
yes what happened was when i delete the efs folder there are weird signs like xx where the emei is when u look under about phone

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Android General] dkotoric:
is there any way to get a att nokia lumia 900 working on medianet
[Android General] stumpyz9:
No you need the lumia 800. This wont work with AT&T branded phones!!!
[Android General] bcool15:
My experience with att..i bought xperia x10 from rogers and was undetected untill att released its own x10a...so i suggest that htc one x to be cheked now on medianet since att has their own version of htc one x...

And report here plz (cuz i wana buy one)

Ps if its in their system its within couple mins-hrs of browsing internet

And i have reasons to believe manufactures send them list of imei which is fed in their system like gs 2 international ver or tmo ver is undetected cuz they dont have imeis list for them unlike sony who gave att whole regions NA list at the time of x10 release

:(
[Android General] dkotoric:
I think ur wrong because rogers and att phones are usually the same model. You need to make sure you get factory unlocked phones. The unlocked htc one x is completely different. Look at the Galaxy Note or Galaxy S2, Unlocked gs note and gs2 worked perfectly on att even though both phones have been out for a while on att.
[Android General] sk337sk337:
Sony is one of the only phones where I've had any trouble with the international vs att version.

Usually the IMEI of the international is different enough to where it goes undetected. I had a Roger's Note SGH-i717R and it worked perfectly on the media net plan. However, if you use AT&T SGH-i717 it forces you into a data plan. Same exact phones but just enough difference in the IMEI it doesn't register
[Android General] bcool15:
Still waiting for htc one global to b retested plzzz
[Android General] BananaPhone69:
One x international worked on my media net.
[Android General] bcool15:
did u try after att released its version?
[Android General] ckong1:
I've been using the international one X almost since it's release and have still been using it after AT&T's release of their one x. no issues.
[Android General] dkotoric:
I just got a international one x today, so far so good

Sent from my HTC One X
[Android General] shsplaying:
Sony Ericsson Android Phones

Hello all,

I've been looking for info regarding the use of Sony Ericsson Android Phones (Unlocked/International) w/ MediaNet. So far I've found someone tried Arc S, and got caught cuz AT&T detected his Arc S as Palm Treo.

Is anyone using a Sony Android Phones successfully with MediaNet Plan? If so, what Kind of phone are they?

I am actually interested in

Live with Walkman (WT19a)

Xperia Neo V (MT11a)

Thank you all in advance.
[Android General] BananaPhone69:
The Xperia s definitely works. That's the only one I know for sure though.
[Android General] dcarr622:
Can anyone confirm that if you have an LTE phone off this list (say, the Rogers Galaxy Note) that you can get LTE while using the cheap data plan? I've spoken to someone with an Optimus LTE that says they can but I'm finding this too good to be true.
[Android General] bcool15:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1649412

in this post guy claims that his phone was recognised as palm treo

too many conflicting statements here n there :((
[Android General] bedwa:
That will depend on of the t-mo varient begins with the same imei series identifier. I have a euro One S and have no problem, it I used to have a T-mo One S and was tagged day one.

And as a former employee, it's both what the device reports through the proxy AND the IMEI lists they have.
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
so does verizon share its IMEI database with at&T?

I really want to get a droid dna but i dont want to be flagged and end up having to pay for regular data plan...

using the droid 3 now and i like it but the crappy camera and the small screen leave a lot to be desired.

Guess beggers cant be choosers lol.

http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...51f85d176/5181efac/1/9/2/9/0/7/7/P1030152.jpg

speeds are decent,especially later on at night.
[Android General] killme2:
In post 916 someone with a Droid DNA was flagged.
[Android General] kaijura:
Are you looking for something just to be able to use no-data wifi or are you looking for something that offers performance?

If I had $100 to spare, I'd try first for anything that has more than 768MB ram, they usually run pretty decent soc's/cpu. Things that come to mind are Desire HD or Incredible S, but they probably run somewhere in the 100s, then kinda work my way down to the 512's if they're out of price range.
[Android General] kaijura:
See this post (#547 in this thread) for one explanation, we don't know if it applies locally to US carriers.
[Android General] kaijura:
In the bottom of the OP, I added details on how to check flagged devices in OLAM. Hopefully that'll help some users be able to report when flagged.
[Android General] salmanslick:
can i get the list ?
[Android General] gunnayn:
LUMIA 520

What is the word on the Lumia 520? I would like to pick up the unlocked version but with T-Mobile coming out with its own variant I have a feeling it will get flagged by ATT.

Funny thing though is that I am still using my ATT Motorola q9h without data. I have been doing so for ever since it came out years ago.
[Android General] paperWastage:
either way, there will be a national device IMEI blackist DB, which at&t will surely have access to, and can get info about verizon phones

http://www.electronista.com/article...oin.forces.universal.database.by.end.of.2013/
[Android General] livingitup:
Something tells me this won't go well for those of us trying to stay under the radar......
[Android General] theman22:
As I read it, this list is specifically a list of phone reported stolen. I don't think this is a big deal unless the smartphone you get is on the list.
[Android General] gtmaster303:
Do I add the plan over the phone or online?

And do I use a dumbphone to add the plan first then switch, or should I add the plan myself through the my att app on my android phone (already gives me the non smartphone option, not detected)
[Android General] paperWastage:
we still don't know how ATT got T-mobile IMEI numbers. If it was step 3 in the process below, then they could do it for verizon phones

1) ATT's IMEI source got t-mobile IMEI somehow (or maybe only a subset of t-mobile IMEIs, or phone manufacturers like HTC gave them non-ATT IMEI numbers)

2) ATT and T-Mobile shared info during the discovery process of the merger (that failed)

3) ATT and T-Mobile shared IMEI blacklist, and ATT got a list of t-mobile IMEIs from that list

do the first step...... online, with a dumbphone, then switch...

i personally won't install any ATT app on any medianet phones.... (since Google Play store and Amazon App Store can report back actual device model number, att app can <insert any evil plans here>)