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[Android General] lovem:
The photon you were using, was it a carrier branded model that took a SIM card?

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A resolved issue doesn't always mean you get what you want. Am sure, "resolved the problem", meant they told you how they charged & you either pay it or pay it and accept there terms.
[Android General] kaijura:
Interesting, I had considered the xt926 previously but it looks like AT&T is catching on to Motorola. Only newer phones I think work would be RAZR m (xt906-gsm/xt907verizon) and RAZR i (xt890)
[Android General] kaijura:
if I remember the radiocomm process from the Verizon Razr M to GSM instructions, it's supposed to be a software-side tool to enable, disable and test functions of the phone.

The process I know of permanently changing your IMEI thru "Jtag"ing them with a supplementary device, aka jtag box. That costs $$$, and the process is obviously considered illegal.

On one Samsung phone (and probably others), the international SGS2, an exploit was to delete or "forget" the imei involved removing the nvdata so the phone was assigned a generic IMEI.
[Android General] chakal95:
I did recieve your response the day right after. Thanj you very much your helo is appreciated.
[Android General] kaijura:
I re-added some should-be working phones into the second post but not all, since I figured some of us may elicit not to share their details. If you want a model listed on there or want to contribute to rebuilding the last, post in here. I felt that ever since the list went privatized, discussion took a plunge and we don't really have people talking about working phones anymore.

If AT&T were to find the working phone list (it's been around for half a year or so, cached elsewhere too) they would've flagged all of them already since it only takes one person to find or share the list, but that hasn't happened yet. So, post on!
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
ive asked this before but id like to ask again just to make sure... is the droid dna definitely going to be flagged?

has anyone had theirs flagged?
[Android General] kaijura:
Post 916, back in February.
[Android General] Alucard400:
I figured, it probably wouldn't hurt if the actual phone is listed on here. it's not like the phone's IMEI will be given away. It's probably best to put actual phones that work on medianet without being flagged. It doesn't have to necessarily be a new list from scratch. but just the working ones. So many phones are flagged now, but a lit of the few that work should help.

If you could include my #1396 post with the front page, it would probably help a lot of people. Some of my points are not necessarily true, but I've made my own inferences from everything I've found out from this thread, the Howard forums and seeing which phones get flagged. So far, I have two foreign phones that work without getting flagged. One of them I got recently. it's not a very new phone (two years old). I know the Meizu, Chinese branded and the Oppo Finder should work. I have yet to try out a Chinese/Asian HTC One that DOES NOT have an LTE radio on media net. Probably going to wait for a couple of years until the phone becomes cheap.
[Android General] rybshik:
unlocked Nokia E71 (from Straight Talk)

Is unlocked Nokia E71 (from Straight Talk) considered "basic phone" or "smartphone" by ATT?

I put a Gophone SIM card (with unlimited data for basic phones) into the (unlocked) Nokia E71 and edited APN settings, but data and internet does not work.

If I put a postpaid ATT SIM card wit data plan to the same Nokia, data and internet works just fine.
[Android General] ccrows:
IDK about GoPhone Sims, but regular SIMs will get you medianet on both the e71 and the e72...
[Android General] vinvam:
Well gophone sims will switch you right away apparently
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I agree. I've hosted the list for the past few months, and I really haven't had a way to verify members.

I say we make it public again.

[MENTION=3421979]kaijura[/MENTION]: if you need the list to post it in the OP, just let me know.
[Android General] gtmaster303:
If AT&T wants to find the list, anything is possible. However do you really want to make it that easy for them and hand it over on a silver platter? There's no doubt if you make the list public, it will be indexed in google. Then all it takes is a simple search. This is just food for thought. You made this thread and free to do as you please

I also don't think AT&T would go to such lengths as to make covert xda accounts to obtain the list, but that's just me. We're not crossing the FBI here, just a cell phone carrier

Sent from my Galaxy S Relay
[Android General] Alucard400:
I think it's okay if the brand, phone and model type is listed on here. Every single individual phone has a unique IMEI and AT&T would have to go through some trouble getting that IMEI. Unless they just outright request and pay the manufacturer for old phone model IMEI data before contracting exclusive distribution of new phones to them.
[Android General] growgeek:
Which usb gsm modems will work with Medianet? I would like to use it with my ALFA R36 Router for porting purposes. I have a few web cams at locations that a wired connection is not available. A half gig a day or so upload..
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
Are you still using the DNA with the Medianet plan?

If you're still good and the other gentleman got flagged,wonder what the reason is...
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I can confirm the Verizon iPhone 5 is flagged.
[Android General] illtww:
How are the Verizon Note II's holding up? I wonder if they are next on the list...
[Android General] hotwildfire:
Try Using Carrier Exclusive phones

Is the Xperia Z flagged?

Every Samsung phone I have used has been flagged after 5-6 month.

I am currently using a smartphone on the medianet data plan. A little worried about AT&T reading this post so if you want to know what phone it is message me. I have been using it on AT&T Unlimited medianet $10/month plan for 8 months now and I get 4G (The APN settings automatically configured):)
[Android General] yangar:
But aren't the IMEI numbers of Brand ABC Model XYZ's all starting with the same string of numbers? I think that's how they were able to sweep so broadly while cross referencing T-Mobile's list of smartphones.
[Android General] hotwildfire:
HTC Holiday/Raider is flagged (international version of the vivid)
[Android General] bedwa:
Imeis are the first 8 set determined by make model and country, 9 is a check digit, 10-14 is serial and 15 is a checksum digit for the other 14. Search imei on Wikipedia for more info.

But with what I mentioned alone, if a carrier gets one imei on the lost/stolen list, they have that series. Period.
[Android General] Alucard400:
I had a Canadian HTC Desire Z stolen while it was being used on medianet. I bought another one, also from Canada Telus and I still use it today and it works, gets around the sweeps. I really think the sweeps do crosscheck VERY distinctly by the full IMEI number. not a broad way by just the first digits to determine a model.
[Android General] bedwa:
The lost/stolen sweeps, yes. But even when I left from working there last May, there were databases with IMEI ranges, even at that time. This could also be why T-Mobile phones are getting pegged so quickly, especially with the national lost/stolen database. Less common, non US phones have a better chance of flying under the radar.
[Android General] hotwildfire:
T-Mobile phone for 1 year

I have been using an 810 T-Mobile phone for a year and have used 10 GB each month with no problem.

Also the I727R has been detected by AT&T. I had a Galaxy Blaze, Exhibit II 4G, HTC holiday, and they all have been flagged.
[Android General] paperWastage:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2189567

it looks like it.... t-mobile carries Xperia Z, so at least some of the IMEIs will be flagged (c6606 is the t-mobile version)
[Android General] sumeet909:
Anyone tried Micromax phones from India? They got some running JB. Micromaxinfo.com

I was thinking of importing one, just wanted to ask here first. Feel free to pm me.
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
Their phones seem to have horrible build quality. If you read the reviews online,people are complaining of screens that do not work. These are people in India complaining and they are having a hard time getting replacements,so I imagine for us in other countries,it would be a nite-mare to get a replacement or repair ...
[Android General] gunnayn:
HTC 8s

Does any one know if the HTC 8s will work on ATT? Thanks..
[Android General] HypnoSquid:
Blu Studio?

Can anyone confirm if the Blu Studio 5.3 S and/or the Blu Studio 5.0 S will work with the MediaNet plan?

This device seems to have pretty impressive specs and a more impressive price. I'm considering getting one, but I would like to know if anyone else has tried it with MediaNet.

I can confirm that the xt860 is still working perfectly.
[Android General] Alucard400:
From the review by Alex V. No, it wont bypass the sweeps. The phone is sold mainly in the US unlike foreign phones. Damn though. Really nice specs for that price.

http://www.amazon.com/BLU-Unlocked-...iewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending
[Android General] livingitup:
feriocious ladersp

While not an Android device, has anyone tried the Nokia Lumia 925 (T-Mobile or international versions) on medianet?
[Android General] jerryfreak:
rogers i727r got detected by at&t for me
[Android General] joecool1029:
N9 and Ion still, like a baws. Dat spotify.
[Android General] redsrule2500:
Droid 4, XT894: This is not impossible, Verizon blocked AT&T GSM bands. Work on unblocking these bands in the radio at XDA has stopped as of May 2013.

Captivate Glide: Flagged on AT&T.
[Android General] ccrows:
Can anybody please "PM me" with the list of the compatible devices?

Thanks...
[Android General] jraskal:
Me as well, thanks
[Android General] Lifeblood:
This has probably been asked ( a few hundred times), but will your Smartphone be detected if you never turn on your data?

I have an old smartphone (which is not very smart by today's standard), and it's never been flagged. I've only turned on data long enough to get through the initial configuration and registration, then I turned data back off and have not turned it on since (I use WiFi for all my data needs). It is an AT&T badged phone which makes it even stranger.

My wife's AT&T badged iPhone 3gs which had the data turned off did get flagged. However, given the popularity of the iPhone I'm not surprised that was caught.
[Android General] hahayeahok:
pretty please

Can somebody send me the current list of medianet compatible phones. Thanks
[Android General] kaijura:
There is no new list anymore. The old list is no longer actively being updated and some of the additions are in the second post here. Working phones can't actively be added immediately because information is based on other user's experience. It is easier to find a phone that is not working on medianet than it is to find what is working on medianet.

If you still need to look at the old list just PM someone, me or mr. mischief.

The second post has some phones in it.
[Android General] kaijura:
General reporting experience in this thread is if you turn off data, you won't get swept, regardless of AT&T model or other. Some folks are doing it on s4's and s3's without last known issues. Certain phones might be more likely to get tagged for little reason (like your iphone) but that's for reasons you already suspected.
[Android General] johnfry:
My verizon note 2 got flagged yesterday. Running out of domestic phones that haven't been swept.
[Android General] ccrows:
Bump...
[Android General] bozzo12:
did I buy a shinny brand new brick (when it comes to continue the grandfathering)?

Hi

If this post doesn't belong here, feel free to move it, I don't mean to highjack this thread.

I have been on the MediaNet plan since 2007 and hope to continue milking it for a llloooong time. Here is my conundrum:

So I first had an unlocked Nokia N95 back in the days with my "non smartphone unlimited Data plan" for $15/month. In 2011 I bought an International unlocked (UK build it seems) Galaxy S2 that has never been flagged (never got any message and my AT&T account has no idea what I use).

But Wednesday night my beloved GS2 went for a swim (10 min in a soaking pot in the sink...) After drying, ricing, it may seem that it may be OK and just need a new battery. But in my haste (ok panic) I bought an unlocked Galaxy S4 octa-core on NewEgg (3G, no 4GLTE). From the baseband, it looks like it is a "South American" phone from Trinidad and Tobago. So here are my questions:

- When I get a micro SIM from an AT&T store (not showing them the phone it goes into), what are the chances that the phone gets flagged? (The GS2 has a full SIM that I don't want to cut)

- Can I fake/clone/modify the GS4 IMEI and use the GS2's (unrecognized)?

- Since my GS2 seems to have recovered, should I just send the GS4 back or do I have any hope to use my shinny new GS4...?

Thanks

bozzo12
[Android General] lovem:
What color was your note 2?
[Android General] bozzo12:
ansering my (some of my) own questions

Well I went to the local AT&T store, explained my story with both phones in hand and strongly insisted that I wanted to keep my grandfathered plan (didn't mention which one...). The lady just took my old SIM and punched it out into a micro SIM format so it'd fit into the GS4 and sent me on my way telling me I should not have any issue. She seemed to base her claim on the fact that my GS4 is not a 4G/LTE phone (which it is not).

So far so good, 12h and no message from AT&T. I'll see if it passes a billing cycle.

bozzo12
[Android General] lovem:
You may get detected. When you go on OLAM does it show the manufacturer & model #? If it does, your friendly bump to a price gouging data plan is sure & soon to come when your bill cycle restarts.
[Android General] kaijura:
You will probably get swapped over to the 3gb data plan later. I think the regular exynos SGS4/i9500 is already in the database.

When you get a new microsim, it doesn't increase your chances of getting your phone flagged. It's just basically your subscriber information - identity numbers, IMEI service numbers, authentication for AT&T, etc. It doesn't say whether or not you have a smartphone, that is what the sweeps are for as they read your IMEI. You could very well get a mini-sim adapter to convert a 4G LTE microsim back into a mini-sim and put it in a dumbphone, it'll work without issues but you'll still be provisioned for a smartphone in OLAM since you need CSR to revert it.

You could clone your GS2's number to your GS4. You have to use or find someone with a JTAG RIFF box to do it for you, which then involves a potential criminal activity, (but probably falls around the misdemeanor level in most jurisdictions in the event you are prosecuted for it). You are not going to really get help on XDA on how to do that since it's against the forum rules to post about it, for the political stuff here's a thread on it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1852166

If it was me in your case, I'm going to continue using the medianet plan for a few more years, so I'd go for something that's deemed working.

Lastly, there is nothing different between a 4G/LTE sim vs a newer 3G/HSPA/UMTS sim card (other than sizes). A switch between LTE service and 3G service is just simply a toggle in AT&T's OLAM by CSR that says something along the lines of "this user is now allowed to use our LTE". The thing is once you switch to LTE is you can't use the dumbphone data plan anymore, so you have to call back in the event you want to revert to 3G only.**

**The older 3G mini-sims may differ from the newer sims in certain areas like storage size.
[Android General] bozzo12:
I just checked my "phone" on OLAM and it's still an unknown device. The GS4 that I got on NewEgg is actually a non 4G/LTE phone, it does not have the hardware for it. It's the international GS4 octa-core (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176476). Whether it will help delaying the detection? only time will tell, but I don't have much choice as my GS2 seems to be slowly dying. I will see once I get a new battery for it to at least get the few things that are still on the phone memory.

I know of the criminal implications of cloning the IMEI and it may not be worth the savings of staying on MediaNet...

What I wanted to avoid by not getting a new SIM card was to draw attention to my account to a human being on top of the potential automatic sweep.

24h on, only time will tell...

bozzo12
[Android General] ryanmeray:
I just bought a Nexus 4 and swapped the SIM from my Incredible S into the Nexus yesterday afternoon. 10 hours later, my account got flagged. I called in this morning, and they claimed they could NOT give me back my MediaMax 200 bundle, but they did switch me to a 200 message/Unlimited non-smartphone separate thing that actually ended up being $5 less than the MediaMax 200 bundle was.

So I'm back on the Incredible S for now until I decide what I want to do.

I'd be shocked if you don't get flagged with that phone. The rep had no idea what she was talking about because plenty of 3G/HSDPA-only phones (like my Nexus 4) will get flagged. The only thing I can see saving you is that you don't have a MediaMax 200 plan, it sounds like you have one of the separate data/SMS packages, and maybe things are flagged differently on that.

That's the plan it sounds like I got switched to, so do let us know if you end up flagged.
[Android General] hhubble:
I moving to T mobile

I've gone through most of this thread and I think it's time for us to come to the realization that it's time to move on. I just did the UnCarrier plan for T mobile, will be active in a few days (not letting AT&T not pro-rate my last bill).

The price is actually even cheaper with my three lines on T mobile. If I go with the full uncapped data it comes with tethering, I get unlimted talk and text as well. Plus if you have anyone who works in the federal or local government you can get an additional discount as well.

All told it's cheaper with T mobile, I'll get LTE 4G (depending on where you are), I can use any smartphone I want ( now all the old ones I've had to ditch with medianet are usable again) and no contract (was told if you want the discount you'll have to sign a contract, but once it's expired you keep the discounted rate going forward)

I know T mobile's rep wasn't very good back then, but now they've acquired metro PCS, they're growing and they've rolled out LTE. I think we should all give them a chance.

Same price I get all this, with AT&T you only get 3G and you have the constant looking over your shoulder fear of getting caught and losing the plan any way. Overall coverage is better with AT&T no doubt, AT&T has the better structure in most places, but to me anyone living near one of the better markets and cities should be going to T-Mobile.

I've been with AT&T for about 7 years ( never upgraded to the unlimited smartphone phone, kept the medianet plan and swapped out sim cards) If you're in the same boat as me, yes it was fun while it lasted, but we can have so much more and still pay the same price with T mobile. Just my 3 cents :fingers-crossed:
[Android General] ryanmeray:
I'm coming to the same realization. I've been with AT&T since 2002, so it kills me to have to change carriers when I'm happy with the quality of service, but I can't justify what I'm paying anymore, especially if I want to move to a smartphone-friendly data plan. I've decided I can either go with AT&T Mobile Share for $85 a month for 1GB of data, or T-Mo for $60 and 2.5GB of data, though the latter has a 500MB limit on tethered data.

Does anyone know if there's an additional fee for tethering with the Mobile Share service?
[Android General] Cortex_inside:
Why not get the att prepaid $60 smartphone plan with 2GB of data.
[Android General] ryanmeray:
I'd like to do a little experiment. I know some people still have Nexus 4's working on AT&T. If you do, shoot me a PM.

Because the coverage on the prepaid plans aren't as good as on the postpaid ones.

I know there's some bad mental processes going on here, but I can't bear to give up that 1% of coverage I probably wouldn't miss if I don't have to.
[Android General] kaijura:
T-mobile coverage seems to be considered terrible in Los Angeles, where I'm from. Now I haven't used them for several years, but from what I still see people saying it hasn't improved that much yet. Coverage is still an issue..
[Android General] kaijura:
People have the Nexus 4 working on AT&T?

Mine gets detected, unfortunately.
[Android General] Cortex_inside:
Doesn't Gophone generally have better coverage than T-Mobile.
[Android General] ryanmeray:
There was someone posting back in April about his Nexus 4 still working on AT&T, unflagged, but I've messaged him and haven't heard back, so I don't know if he's still flying under the radar. I'd love to compare my APN settings with his or see exactly how his unlimited plan shows up in his billing center to see if he's maybe on the grandfathered iPhone plan instead or if he really is on a Medianet plan.

Not sure, but I would love to find out. I don't know too many people (read: none personally) who use GoPhone. The people in my area who use T-Mo admit the coverage isn't as good as their previous carriers, but they are OK with what they're getting.
[Android General] bozzo12:
I am on the MediaNet Data Unlimited for Non-Smartphone ($15.00), copied straight from my bill. The APN that was transfered from my GS2 is wap.cingular.

4 days and still going strong!
[Android General] chrism.brunner:
Just a comment, I had postpaid for 10 years, and 2 years ago switched to prepaid, using undetectable phones( currently have 5) I don't notice any difference in coverage at all. Maybe just my area, but being in Alaska I would expect problems.
[Android General] kaijura:
Just popped my microsim into a docomo gnex, surprised to see that OLAM recognized the model number. Shows up as "Samsung SC-04D"

I previously thought this phone was impregnable, either something changed or something about my account causes sweeps to be triggered more easily?

Starting to wonder if newer (pre-cut) microSims have anything to do with sweeps, but I this wasn't the case when I put the same microsim into a gs2 that eluded detection and still does as of last month.

How many people here are still running original mini-sims (cut or not) ? Who's running pre-cut microsims?
[Android General] ryanmeray:
The SIM that I cut to put in my Nexus 4 (and was flagged after 10 hours) was from around 2005-2006. I'm doing a little experiment right now where the SIM is in the phone but data is disable; I'm curious if I'll get flagged for voice usage only on the same device that got flagged before.
[Android General] kaijura:
Based on the experience of some posters in this thread who were using flagged sgs3's and (couple other I forget) disabling data works, you don't get flagged if you turn off data. We had a short talk about this a couple months back and shouldn't be too hard to find in this thread.
[Android General] redsrule2500:
This is interesting....would definitely be up for this type of upgrade....
[Android General] chrism.brunner:
I have been using a precut microsim for about 9 months now. No problems. Went to the store and had them swap it out because I didn't want to cut the regular sim down.....
[Android General] ryanmeray:
Which phone are you running it in and what plan are you on?
[Android General] redsrule2500:
Says the AT&T Employee
[Android General] ryanmeray:
I was going to wager that was a joke, but I've seen enough people say that semi-seriously I can't even be sure of that. It's pretty obvious at this point their methods for blocking phones has nothing to do with secret spies on xda.