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[Android General] lexalta:
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Very interesting that you used all those phones and never got flagged !!!

I had only used 3 different models of phones on media net.

I have 2 Questions which if you answer - you may give us some clues about why certain phones get flagged.

1) Have you been using the same sim card for all these phones since 2007?

2) Have you not ever contacted ATT customer service for anything about your account?

Here is my experience with the 2 questions I had for you:

I have 2 lines. Each phone has the $15 media net plan and both lines have been using smartphones since around 2006 and 2007 respectively.

1) I used the ATT branded Samsung BlackJack on the first line around 2006 and then the ATT Samsung Jack on it. ATT requires dataplans for both these devices but I was never flagged on the first line which still uses the original 3G sim card. Actually, I used 3 different Samsung BlackJacks on this line which were replacements for lost phones.

The 2nd line was originally used for a dumbphone in 2007 and then I put the original 3G sim card for that line into a 5 inch ATT Dell Streak in 2011 and added the $15 media net plan to that 2nd line. I usually used about 2-3 GB per month on the Dell Streak and had even used about 6-8 GB on it for a couple of cycles.

I never got flagged on any of these devices until a couple months after I got a replacement sim card for my Dell Streak which was the new 4G/LTE sim card. After the sim replacement, that line got flagged every cycle. But so far the other line has been left alone.

Could it be that the newer sim cards trigger the sweep? So is it best to keep the old 3G sim card and never upgrade it?

2) Another possibility is that contacting customer service brings your account to their attention and then they flag you.

I never contacted ATT customer service about anything since my plan inception until I had a problem with completing a transaction to upgrade the 2nd line. This was around the same time that I replaced the sim card for the 2nd line, I tried to upgrade the 2nd line by purchasing a new phone online on Amazon, but the transaction got stuck and I couldn't proceed. I called customer service to complain. Later, I discovered from an ATT store customer rep who looked through the notes in my account informed me that when I called to complain about the transaction not going through, that ATT did a credit check on me because I was trying to purchase a new phone. He told me he thinks that is why that line got flagged.

I am not sure whether my 2nd line was flagged due to the sim card upgrade, or whether it was due to my contacting ATT customer service because both incidents happened around the same time.

Can you provide some insight from your experience? I want to keep the first line on media net and not get flagged !!!

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Can someone PM me the list?

Really need to replace the old Samsung Jack !!!

TIA
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
any more info on the droid dna being flagged? it seems some people are still using it but a few have been detected.

I'm still using a Droid 3 xt862 that has been flashed with the Chinese radio,beenusing it for about 3 months and no real issue except ones that are the fault of the phone (build prop).

speeds are about about 4-5mb and 1-2 up ,always faster at night,i am averaging at least at least a gig a week of data.

only reason id switch phones is due to the crappy camera and small screen on the droid 3.
[Android General] gunnayn:
LUMIA 520

I am asking again if any one has any word on whether the Lumia 520 will be detected. I have had the ATT motorola q9h which is classified as a smartphone and I have been using it since around 2006 without any data. So I am hoping that the Lumia will also work for me but I want to be sure first.
[Android General] ErieTrack:
The 820 works. Just use that.

It's a great phone
[Android General] gunnayn:
Wait. How does the 820 work when ATT is offering it? I never considered it because of that reason. Interesting. :laugh:
[Android General] ErieTrack:
Opps I meant the 810. The 822 also works but mms doesn't work unless

flashed with 820 firmware.

Sorry about that :silly:
[Android General] gunnayn:
Haha. You had me excited for a moment. So t-mobile's 810 will work on ATT without being detected? Do you think the 720 will be detected?
[Android General] ErieTrack:
As long as the 810 has a clean IMEI it works just fine. I have no idea about the 720,

but since it's a global phone and not sold domestically, I think you have a good chance

of it working. There's a global version of the 925 that I'm also curious about. With a

little luck there may be a whole lineup of 8x phones that work :fingers-crossed:
[Android General] gunnayn:
Hopefully, there are some out there. Thanks for the help.
[Android General] jacobreed222:
Link

I am new to this forum and this is my first post, but I have read many thredas including the 200+ pages of this one. I have bought a chinease knockoff phone off ebya which works quite well but I was wondering if those are being falgged on att medianet. I would eally like to get it. BTW can I also have the link to the secret thread mentioned in pgs <81.

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On pg 80 too, can I have the link to the privatized lists
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
Someone reported that the Canadian Galaxy S3 I747M has been flagged.

I'll mark it with caution on the list tomorrow if I remember. If I get one more confirmation, I'll mark it as flagged.
[Android General] XFlyer:
Nokia Lumia 521 is locked to T-Mobile. It is contract-free, not unlocked.

In any case, post if anyone has details of using this on AT&T.
[Android General] sucsss:
Chinese knockoffs should be fine. They are so rare in the US that I doubt att cares at all.
[Android General] phantomsniper773:
Anyone have a Verizon iPhone 4S unlocked (with the Gevey SIM interposer I guess) working with MediaNet? I'm guessing no, but I figured I'd ask anyways. I searched the thread and didn't find any definitive answers. Thanks!
[Android General] jacobreed222:
OK. Also I bought a $50 cheap smartphone from a very small company. Is that safe also? I bet you you would not know it and the only documentation is on their website. Not in any forum whatsoever. PM me if you want to know
[Android General] bedwa:
I was repairing one and got tagged within hours. Had to swap back to my euro One S.

Linky? Please? :)
[Android General] jacobreed222:
I will PM you
[Android General] inisfada:
I was just flagged using and unlocked Nokia E63. I have been using it for almost 4 years with no detection. I think when I was using Opera Mobile, it was detected. I was notiifed the next day
[Android General] ErieTrack:
Was it around the time your billing cycle started?
[Android General] inisfada:
It was a week away from the end of my billing cycle. I should note that the picture of the phone in my account was grayed out so they did not know what the model was. I switched to a legit phone with the smartphone plan and now I get GREAT reception!
[Android General] yangar:
The standard Nexus 4 hasn't been detected right?
[Android General] sieepiestangel:
My black i9100 got flagged again this morning, right on the day of my new billing cycle. Had to call in to get it changed back. Guess I'll switch to a dumbphone on July 4th and pray I don't get another text.
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
It was flagged months ago.
[Android General] yangar:
What's the "International Version" listed in OP?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
No idea. They're all the same. It's listed as flagged in the OP.
[Android General] jacobreed222:
hotspot

One more question, can I use an international wifi hotspot off of ebay with medianet?
[Android General] nondeclination:
I plugged in a Canadian Galaxy S3 i747m today, and got flagged 4 hours later. Back to the Samsung Jack I go.
[Android General] kill00:
Can someone tell me a phone that is currently working?
[Android General] cblrhan:
Just got flagged after several years.

Hey guys,

Was following this post for a while now. Just wanted to tell and share my part to the situation. Had a white international i9100 SII. Was using medianet since I got the phone in 2011. They finally flagged my phone this morning, well actually right after my billing cycle. However, this was the first time ever. I checked to see if my imei is recoginized on the AT&T site and for the first time it say "Samsung GT-I9100" instead of "unknown unknown" I think they are cracking down on any/all Samsung phones regardless. (I think even if I call to switch back, they now recognize it regardless and will charge me) Guys, I need your help, can you assist me in what phones do work now? I was looking at some ASUS phones, padfone2? Thanks and I really appreciate it.
[Android General] kaijura:
The only Samsung phones these days that seems to work on AT&T are the ones they overlooked but flagged for a majority of the users. AT&T is starting to catch on with the international variants. It probably has to do with the TAC (first 8 imei digits) variations in the algorithm which is why some of us have some phones working while others have been flagged, the working TACs are from a different network or something like DoCoMo network for example. Some are just not even entered which explains why even some AT&T phones were able to do this (ex. Inspire). I see this reportedly happening for the n7000, 9300, 9100/9100m, One X/S, Galaxy Nexus.

Only other way around the luck is to import low key no-name brands (Xiaomi is one) or turn off mobile data completely.
[Android General] bedwa:
110% this. As a former employee I know this is the primary tag method, as of last May when I left.
[Android General] Alucard400:
I am thinking HTC phones are still much better to go for than Samsungs. I've repeatedly said before, stay away from Samsung phones. international or Canadian. I heard some Euro ones are okay, but if I were to get a phone right now, I would choose Motorola, HTC or some Chinese branded non popular phone. If the phone was massed produced, it's likely not going to fly through detection.
[Android General] sumeet909:
Thanks. But can you really turn off data and still use the phone? For international phones, does ATT not add the data plan if you have data disabled.
[Android General] james11417:
I have an i9300 and with mobile data blocked, I don't get flagged. I can live with no data, but some people can't so it's up to you. Only necessary function of data was the GPS for me, though, so I turn it on when I really have to go somewhere I don't know then just turn block it again.
[Android General] sucsss:
Seriously? Even some att phones aren't detected?
[Android General] kill00:
can someone send me a list? Ive messaged multiple people asking for it including Mr Mischeif. Id really appreciate it if someone could send it
[Android General] kaijura:
rarely, but yes. I've read it happening with the Inspire, BB 8900, Blackjack 1/2 and some others. I have no idea how it works but I can only assume maybe they are refurb'ed international units or something with their TACs/algorithm did not pick it up.
[Android General] dtrinh4000:
wtf att...

So I put my sim card from my gti9100 into my dumb phone sony ericsson c905a last night and called ATT. they were able to switch me back to the medianet plan. The sim card has been in my dumbphone ever since. i wake up this morning and get the dreaded "you are using a smartphone" text message ON MY DUMBPHONE! anyone ever have this happen? What can i do at this point? should i go to a att store?
[Android General] killme2:
Call them again and have them to take it off.
[Android General] Endlessknight:
If you read back a few pages you'll see the same thing happened to me. I have a feeling once your account gets flagged it stays that way.
[Android General] dtrinh4000:
bummer. I called them and they were able to switch it back but I guess its a matter of time before it will switch again. I have a few more months till our contract expires then we can move on to net10.
[Android General] ErieTrack:
That's really weird about when they flagged you. I would usually get it on the first or second day of my billing cycle.

Maybe it a certain day of the month that they flag everyone? Mine used to be grayed but I started selecting a dumbphones

from the list. I can tell when my account gets swept because the phones disappear and the gray "unknown device"

phone appears. What phone did you end up switching to?
[Android General] inisfada:
I am currently using a borrowed iphone4. The phone I want is not out yet .... I would like to check out the Samsung 4 mini which should be out around July. Funny thing is that this iphone is starting to grow on me. I will see what the final decision will be after July
[Android General] ErieTrack:
You know, I've messing around with 2 identical Motorola phones. One has Asian firmware and the other has U.S. firmware.

Data spends are twice as fast on the Asian and the reception is also better. Both phone are band new. Back in the Motomodding

days, the big thing was to change the phones from half rate to full rate for U.S. phones or just buy one from over seas. I wonder

if this is still the case where the U.S. phone have reduced radio power to meet FCC regulations and run half rate to fit twice as

many phones on a tower? I remember the iphone had an issue about how it calculated reception which was fixed by an update.

In case you're wondering, I was trying to see if regional firmware had anything to do with getting flagged, but that is inconclusive

since I haven't gotten flagged on either.
[Android General] Wisefather46:
Huh?

So I have been using an international android phone from the list to get media net since january but decided to upgrade as I got att to give me 3 new galaxy s4s and huge credits off my bill due the the new admin fee (theres a thread on slickdeals but I'm newer so I cant post a link, if youre interested just google slickdeals AT&T ETF).

Anyways I put my sim into the galaxy S4 and did not get bumped off media net to the $30 a month plan? I looked into it and in my account it shows the galaxy S4 but says I still have unlimited internet. Its been like this for a few days and nothing has happened, I know previously if I put my sim in any smartphone I would get hit instantly.

Also its worth noting that I am not currently able to connect to the internet (I'm guessing this is because its trying to use the apn settings for the 4G and LTE. I can get wifi but no mobile. I did not call AT&T because I'm hoping through some fluke I can get media net working on it. I cant seem to add or edit APNs but I'm going to sim unlock it and try to add the media net APN and see what happens.

*Calls and texts are working fine

Has anyone else experienced something like this?
[Android General] livingitup:
Same here, my account recently got swept and it shows the same thing, a grayed out "unknown device" where as before it showed my ATT go phone. This just happened a few days ago, which also coincides with a new billing cycle. However, so far so good as I haven't received any text messages from ATT.
[Android General] kaijura:
You'll probably get some text about adding an lte plan or something, that has happened to people who went from gsm devices to lte. They were able to bypass it by adding the medianet apn. Hopefully someone with a direct experience in this can help you.
[Android General] sucsss:
your account might be on the monthly sweep cycle.
[Android General] cblrhan:
unlimited data

Has anyone lost medianet and was able to get AT&T to convert their plan into another unlimited data plan?
[Android General] sieepiestangel:
Yup, got caught twice, the first time randomly during the middle of my billing cycle, and the second time right on the start of the new billing cycle. I stuck my sim into a dumb phone both times, and got my plan switched back to the dumbphone data.
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
does anyone tether using medianet? im kind of hesitant to try it...
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I did when I had MEdia Net. I tethered 3-4GB in 5 days.
[Android General] lovem:
Tethering? All the time! Every day & all day!

It's price gouging what they charge if using a carrier subsidized phone, & I refuse to pay for it & do it MY WAY!
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
should i play around with apn settings? i remember something about the telephony lines in the build prop, i was not able to edit them though...

I just dont want to get that dreaded text saying i need to get a smartphone data plan.

i tethered for a few minutes earlier though,speed was pretty good.
[Android General] vinvam:
Been totally fine for me.

Sidenote, looking to upgrade my mom to a smartphone. Any recommendations for a cheapo (under $200) phone running ICS at least? Looking at some of the generics like Xiaomi, Meizu, Blu but not too sure what to look for really.
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
thanks.

i cant think of any phone ,im using a droid 3 myself. unlocked it and flashed the chinese gsm radio. i tried a droid bionic with gsm hack but i didnt like it and medianet was very slow with it.

i was thinking of getting a droid dna since it has an unlocked gsm radio but some people are saying that at&t can detect it now,but i cant get a definite answer when i ask.
[Android General] vinvam:
Droid DNA was reportedly flagged. Wouldn't risk it considering the Verizon iPhone 5 seems to be flagged as well. :/

I have a Droid 3 for my sister but it's stuck on GB... I mean it's 2013, everyone should be on ICS at least.

Can anyone recommend a decent no-name phone?
[Android General] Alucard400:
something for everyone

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/17/geak-unveils-eye-and-mars/

Now, what I am curious about is, if getting a Xiomi or a Chinese phone. are we stuck with a Chinese Android OS? it would be great to be able to change language settings. These new phones are really good in specs. The only thing I hate right now with my old Canadian phone that still works with medianet is that the Camera is really outdated with low MP. I'd be happy to upgrade my phone to one of these Chinese ones with a great camera and still be able to tether for free off medianet
[Android General] PassingThruLife:
I had my heart set on a Droid DNA too lol. The international Butterfly variants run for $500 plus so I might wait till price drops and try to buy one.

Sucks about the Droid 3 but 2 years into it's life,its pretty much a dead phone.

I was also looking at the ZTE Grand Memo which is a phablet that seems to be marketed in India and other Asian nations but I can't find too much on it.It sells for around $450 and I'm sure it will get cheaper as time goes on.
[Android General] kaijura:
One way is to search xda here and see if they have an existing thread about the phone. They have unofficial CM for some of the phones.

Aside from Meizu and Xiaomi, here's some other makers.

Lenovo

Oppo

Vertu

Sometimes, sites like GSMarena doesn't have the correct information on the bands or not all phones are listed. I noticed they listed some of the bands wrong for their Samsung phones. The P3100 was listed without AT&T UMTS-HSPA frequencies, but I checked Samsung's official site and put a SIM in, and it worked.
[Android General] allster101:
Response

EDIT: Got the list.
[Android General] vinvam:
Thought I had a winner with the Blu Vivo 4.3 but I watched a Youtube review on it and it seems like the stock ICS has a lot of issues.
[Android General] ErieTrack:
Anyone happen to try the asus padfone 2? Or any of the other computer manufacturers

phones? Hp, acer, dell, asus ect. Or the Xiaomi MI 2S for that matter?
[Android General] lovem:
Tether all you want. I've just never tethered on the ATT PHONE apn though as I don't want to get AT&T phones and medianet does not work with the att PHINE apn.
[Android General] MyslfHimadri:
Awesome!
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
The Verizon Galaxy S4 is unlocked and supports AT&T's 3G/4G bands.

If anyone wants to send me their sim card, I'll test it.
[Android General] phantomsniper773:
Anyone know about the VZW Droid Razr M? I saw one guy got it a while back, but never posted if it worked or not, and they haven't been online since April.
[Android General] jacobreed222:
cheaper???

can i get a plan comparable to this, preferably unlimited for any cheaper. Even fom TMO or an MVNO. Also do i need a voice plan with this

EDIT: Do I need a voice plan or can I use the 15$ medianet only
[Android General] vinvam:
Another nail in the coffin guys. Apparently starting this month there's a new policy that you must keep your subsidized device on the plan or they can cancel your service. This is basically the death of flipping the AT&T phone and buying a nice international model. :(

Anybody have more info on the policy?
[Android General] sucsss:
Where did you hear this?
[Android General] sumeet909:
Even better. Add a line, flip device, no ETF. What am I missing here? ?
[Android General] gtmaster303:
That's always been a policy. But I guess they're going to enforce it now

Sent from my Galaxy S Relay
[Android General] vinvam:
Rep at the AT&T store.

I'm assuming it's not as simple as that. They would try to collect ETF and/or the device. Plus it wouldn't be good for your credit...

Interesting. I hope not too strictly lol
[Android General] sucsss:
What confuses me is, what if you broke the phone?
[Android General] jacobreed222:
I am not sure but maybe they give you a new one and update the imei with that one in their database of phones-users.
[Android General] vinvam:
That's what I was thinking. I guess it could work if you're only flipping one line but when you're flipping a whole family plan it would be kind of obvious.
[Android General] lovem:
Do you know if it gives the option to add APN data, or is it blocked.
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
It does. I was able to enter the APN for Straight Talk.
[Android General] jacobreed222:
Do I need a contract for this?

Can I use medianet without a voice plan?
[Android General] lovem:
From what I understand, if you have an unrecognized pda / tablet you can certainly coast through with a voice plan SIM containing medianet on the line. To just use medianet or to get medianet without a cellular voice plan?!....Emphatically NO!
[Android General] jacobreed222:
One more thing?

Are there any hidden cheaper voice plans that I have to call 611 or chat for?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
You could just sign up for the $50 unlimited GoPhone plan. It includes MEdia Net(unlimited dumb phone) data
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
If you're looking for the cheapest way to get MEdia Net data, check out AT&T's new $35 prepaid plan.

It includes 500 minutes and unlimited texts and data. That plan is the bomb, imo.
[Android General] sumeet909:
What does everyone think of the T-Mobile classic plans as an alternative, especially folks with family plans?

For $100 a month, I could get 4 lines unlimited msgs and mins, and 500mb 4g with unlimited edge data on all lines. Additional 2gb data is 10 bucks. Not as good as MediaNet, but this is overage proof.
[Android General] sucsss:
Check your local coverage.

T mobile sucks around me, so I have no choice.
[Android General] Alucard400:
I went over the website to look at this. This is a GREAT rate. it's cheaper than my grandfathered $30/month 300 minutes. but I have unlimited night and weekends voice. I currently pay $15/month for no smartphone data. I'm currently doing research on which phones will still work with medianet. I just found out from multiple users that their HTC ONE X gets flagged repeatedly by AT&T. I think the latest phones are easily flagged, international or not because it sounds like AT&T's IMEI database is now updated more extensively with the manufacturers sharing their database now.
[Android General] hybrid35:
Maybe time to switch out of ATT? Corporations :/ I'll see what I can get first haha
[Android General] jacobreed222:
I will look into that.

Oh and is there a way to get the removed prepaid gophone medianet plan for unlimited for 15 or 20, I forgot. People can get data only with that.