yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xoom General] genericmessage:
But the xoom has a 2mp ffc vs the new nexus with a 1.3mp ffc

So that makes no sense
[Xoom General] captblaze:
since face unlock can be bypassed with a photo, not having it on the xoom isnt an issue...

not having the 3.xx kernel is a bigger omission for me
[Xoom General] willysp:
Hi, new to the Android kernel world.

What would we get from a 3.xx kernel that the stock ICS kernel doesn't give us?

TIA
[Xoom General] genericmessage:
Its a gimmick. I will admit, but to omit features, that doesn't seem right
[Xoom General] captblaze:
this will explain it better than i can ----> link
[Xoom General] willysp:
Ah ... LOL, thanks for the post!

"Torvalds says, "since we no longer do version numbers based on features, but based on time, just saying 'we're about to start the third decade'" works as well as any other excuse" to name the release Linux 3.0."
[Xoom General] captblaze:
if you read the entire blog post it does higlight some improvements including combining the android kernel into the linux kerrnel. i believe the statement made by linus torvalds was a bit tongue in cheek regarding just making a new number and not have any improvements

^
[Xoom General] dexter69:
How can open source be restricted to a "private beta" ?

Kind of defies the meaning of "open source" !

That aside, what really isses me off, is the fact that Motorola seem to forget that there are customers who reside outwith of the US..this will be borne out when they "roll" out the full release - us over here in the UK/Europe will need to wait 5 months (!) before we get it.

That's absolutely shocking.

When I question Motorola directly, they shirk the question and refuse to commit. The whole customer experience with them, has left me feeling dirty and used - either roll it out professionally (like asus etc) or man up and take the flak - don't hide away behind stock answers blah blah.

And before I get slated on here - no, i don't want to root my xoom, no, I don't have a host cable and no, I don't want to be invalidating any warranty on my xoom.

Actually getting sick of the lack of support we get over here.

rant over
[Xoom General] Admiralvic:
Oh yeah I fully agree... we should also get developer builds OTA because that is total bull****. :rolleyes:

The source file is open... thats why people make their own versions of ICS...

Take your *****ing elsewhere... you have opitions, but not taking them doesn't make your point suddenly more valid. Another thing to keep in mind is that Xoom FE owners are getting royally screwed. There is no word on if were going to get ICS and were still on 3.1 plus it's still fairly new...
[Xoom General] dexter69:
:D

I'm sorry, I thought that I could vent my wrath and ire at Motorola on a public forum.

Silly me.

:rolleyes:
[Xoom General] vebix808:
I simply cannot gather enough facepalm pics for this.
[Xoom General] oldblue910:
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about here. Android itself is open source, thus the Android Open Source Project (AOSP). However, the builds that manufacturers (Google included) create for devices are generally NOT open source. They are proprietary.

Furthermore, in regards to the international versions having to wait longer, that's just a byproduct of their contract with Google. In the USA, the Xoom's updates come straight from Google. Everywhere else in the world, Motorola has the freedom to customize Android for the Xoom and they have taken the liberty to do so. This means you wait longer for the update. Every manufacturer does this. Don't like it? Buy something else.

Why are you here again?
[Xoom General] jmgib:
Regarding the "closed beta" being contrary to "open source"... You strike me as another person who doesn't really know or understand what "open source" means. There is nothing wrong with trying to hold a limited release "beta" to make sure nothing breaks before they release the update the everyone. I'm pretty sure I remember an Intel network driver update a few years ago that would break adapters. That's the kind of stuff you want to make sure doesn't happen.

Also, this is testing the GED update/release for the US Wifi edition of the Xoom. That, I'm sure is the largest reason to only release it to the US.
[Xoom General] willysp:
Yes, he intended his statement to be humorous :) After I replied to your post, I looked around some more.

Based on my real-time embedded systems dev back in the day, I had always assumed the Android kernel was a micro-kernel; however it's a monolithic kernel for practical purposes on phones and tablets (it has loadable drivers yes, but unused drivers won't even be compiled for these devices), which of course means it's bigger and has more components available to upversion.

Do you know if any of the Xoom custom ICS ROMs use a 3.x kernel?

Thanks for getting me to think about this - I enjoy learning about Android and trying to translate my prior tech knowledge to the 'new world'. (My day job is managing contracts, clients and consultants delivering IT projects; I don't get to do real techie work anymore).

Here's a nice description of new 3.0 features:

http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.0

Thanks again!

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Nothing stopping you from downloading AOSP from Google and doing your own build - that's the meaning of open source :) That's how we got the custom ROMs that others have built and have been so gracious to share with us for free.
[Xoom General] te0o:
I finally decided, tomorrow I'm buying a host cable because I can't wait anymore for the official release. Will I be able later to use the host cable for connecting a flash drive to the tablet and using it?
[Xoom General] Spartan315:
Are you asking if you'll be able to use it after you update? If so, yes, you can connect pretty much any USB device.

Also, since nobody seemed to respond to my post earlier. I'll ask it again. Can somebody who has updated to ICS, upload a system dump?
[Xoom General] SMRPOWER:
Are you sure? Do you need to be rooted for that? I dont want to root my Xoom

I tried conecting USB thumbsticks but none was recognized

I dont undestand why this cant be implemeted in the Xoom or Galaxy Nexus, i tried once with my cable in a unroote GSII and it worked!!!!

Why cant we, GED users get it!?
[Xoom General] SamuriHL:
You can't mount it on a stock xoom but stock recovery can read from it.
[Xoom General] genericmessage:
Seconded!

fasdfasdfasdfadsfasdflkjlkasjdfkl <----- To make it longer than 10 characters
[Xoom General] willysp:
No need to buy a cable - there is now an alternative.

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Tell me how to do a sys dump, and I'll do it.
[Xoom General] tigger80:
Will this work on UK wifi Xoom 604

I have UK Wifi xoom, i have been trying to update it to ICS... i get

--Install /sdcard

Finding update package...

Opening update package...

Verifying update package...

E:failed to verify whole-file failed signature

E:signiture verification failed

Installation aborted.

Can anyone help me?

Does this work on UK Xooms

I have Fully STOCK xoom and i have the USB Host cable
[Xoom General] zaphod777:
I am pretty sure you will need to download and install a stock US Xoom image first.

http://developer.motorola.com/products/software/
[Xoom General] StErMi:
Can you please explain how can I do with a stock xoom and without usb host?

Thank you very much :)
[Xoom General] fatman42:
True. I have a UK-bought wifi model and installed the US recovery image. That updated as you'd expect to the then-current Honeycomb version (3.2.1, build HTK57D). I successfully updated to the Moto ICS soak build through the USB host/recovery method. You *have* to be on that software version for the IML77 ICS update to work.
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
yeah, there's a check in the .zip to look for HTK57D before it will update.

I've been on the US image since 3.1 came out
[Xoom General] drtek:
Sorry for the "slight" OT Question: Do the Stock US Images / Roms also contain German language?

This is vital for me since I need a German Keyboard.

Thanks in advance,

Tek.
[Xoom General] Spartan315:
Well, I take that back. USB drives won't mount on the stock ROM, but you can connect devices like mice, keyboards, phones (to charge), etc.

Sorry, didn't mean be rude.

Anyway, there are two ways to do it.

Using ADB:

Instructions HERE.

Using a file manager:

Download a file manager like ES File Explorer.

Navigate to the root directory of the device "/".

Copy the contents of the "system" directory and paste them in a folder on the SD card.

(not sure why, but just copying the system folder doesn't copy everything)

Then on your PC, take it off the SD and place it on your PC. Then just compress it and upload it.
[Xoom General] willysp:
My apologies, I was rude in my response to you. Sorry.

Will try to do the dump later today with adb.
[Xoom General] te0o:
Thanks for the information.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a host cable at my local store and it seems I'll have to wait for the official release. Any news on when Motorola has decided to finally release the update? And are the European users going to get the update when it comes out? Because I have a European 3g Xoom and I'm a bit concerned that Motorola will screw us up. :D
[Xoom General] willysp:
There's now an alternative that doesn't require a cable:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1446469

But, like the original update, this is for WiFi-only.
[Xoom General] te0o:
This update is not meant to be installed on anything else than MZ604. My tablet is MZ601.

That's not true, the original update can be installed on both Wi-Fi and 3G versions according to the author of the update thread in the Development section. :)
[Xoom General] vv4yn0:
I have an AUS wifi and the US rom to restore to so I can update to this ICS test but I am guessing that unlike just updating the ICS rom the restoring to the US rom will wipe my Xoom - Is there a way to do a backup that I can restore so I can keep all my crap the same as it was? (you can smell the apple on me now can't you :)

If not I guess I will live with it but if there is an easy way through it I thought someone here would know :)

Cheers
[Xoom General] Subjective Effect:
I have a stock UK Wifi Xoom - MZ604.

I've tried installing from USB and get the "signature error".

I tried installing build HTK57D from this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21388472&postcount=173

but I get the same error.

Anyway for me to get this ICS build?
[Xoom General] willysp:
True enough - you will be able to install it on a 3G/4G device (quote is from the OP on the following thread):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1446469

"This means it won't stop you from flashing on a non-US or 3G/4G device; it will just flash and you're left with the mess (if any). "
[Xoom General] purljazz:
Jups, there is german keyboard layout ..just in normal settings! Btw : xoom is a full new device I'm so happy get this working for me( came from german ( eu) wingray) - had to make it US via adb and then go on update prozess ..then usb flash ...

Only thing i recognised when using ics on xoom is ( especially) xda app do fc when I'm logged in...all the other is what i was waiting for!!! Thx to all You guys that maked it happen!!! Im hyper excited!!!
[Xoom General] tigger80:
how did you install us 3.2 rom?
[Xoom General] tigger80:
DID IT

Finally after 3 days i now have ics

I have UK xoom 604..

A USA Rom must first be installed - get it from motorola dev site

once install ics flashes

its worth doing, as no one knows how long it will take to get this here in UK
[Xoom General] fatman42:
...by unlocking the boot loader and flashing the HWI69 image (available from moto developer site) - which is the software shipped on wifi models in US. You need that for your device to be considered a Google Experience Device (updates from Google not Motorola). That will get OTA updates from 3.0.1 to 3.2.1. When you're at build HTK75D you can apply the ICS soak build patch.
[Xoom General] TheStickMan:
Quick update: People are getting official ICS, and it's the same as soak test. Links below.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21540255

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1452044
[Xoom General] dan.kels.r:
Any reason to get the official update if I'm already running custom ics rom?
[Xoom General] TheStickMan:
I ran TeamEOS ROM before the soak test ROM. EOS has more features. So do other custom ROMS I believe, but I think the opinion is that EOS is more stable than other customs at the moment.

And, considering the soak test went ahead into official status, I doubt we'll be getting OTA's any time soon.

So, no.
[Xoom General] :
Hi guys,

Just realized I have a MZ600 (3G/4G) model Xoom, as I understand it this ICS update only apply to Wifi models for now, and a 3G/4G update hasn't been released (aka leaked) yet?

Thanks.
[Xoom General] tigger80:
UK release

Hi guys, anyone know if the officeal OTA rom is being distrubited to UK xoom 604,
[Xoom General] romdroid.:
is there only official ics for us wifi version only? nothing for eu 32gb 3g?
[Xoom General] KidJoe:
So far, its US Wifi only. Nothing for US 3G/4G, nor non-US models.
[Xoom General] zaphod777:
If you have a non us wifi version you can flash the us ROM from the Motorola dev site and then pull the ota update.

sent from my SC-02C
[Xoom General] ansje:
it wont open says its not an official pdf file

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doesnt work on nu xoom wifi
[Xoom General] double1:
Is there an exploit for root on this ota?

Never mind, I see solar updated his thread on rooting :)
[Xoom General] senaca:
I don't understand why we are able to have access to the update while they state that this a "secret" test with a limited group....am I missing something here?

€dit:

what's the difference to the links posted here on the google site:

http://code.google.com/intl/de/android/nexus/drivers.html#wingrayiml74k

Motorola Xoom (US Wi-Fi) binaries for Android 4.0.3 (IML74K)

ah my bad those are just drivers or something....
[Xoom General] chazam:
Installed now. Thank you solarnz. :D

For anyone confused, use this guide to install the update:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1073206

Working on my UK Wifi Xoom (Bootloader unlocked - running stock U.S Wifi firmware). It has the same boot animation as the Galaxy Nexus which is nice. :)

Time to play.
[Xoom General] Jake43:
Any way to update without a host cable? I have a micro sd card.
[Xoom General] rubber guard:
I'm not sure.

I am in the same boat as you and thought that microsd card method might work.

I have a host cable so i did that, it worked. I did notice stock recovery asks to apply update via USB, so my guess would be no re: microsd card

good luck
[Xoom General] Tiger62651:
Will this work for the 3g xoom?
[Xoom General] jimboogly:
@Solarnz - you sir are an uber Droid ninja!

Thank you for this and for teameos!
[Xoom General] 2beta:
Sorry but is this update method wipe the xoom ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1073206
[Xoom General] dadoc04:
do you sleep?? no really....

For those that dont know already, this dude is amazing. Thanks for all the hard work man
[Xoom General] Erkan75:
No - signature verification fails
[Xoom General] kerry_xu_cs:
No. you won't be able to install the update unless you use unofficial recovery.
[Xoom General] iammodo:
gunna see how smooth official is.

Sent from my Xoom
[Xoom General] f1ux:
can someone please convert this to a CWM flash able zip?
[Xoom General] kerry_xu_cs:
I think it already is CWM flashable but the only thing you need to worry about is that you have stock honeycomb rom (HTK75D), because this is an incremental update not a full ics package.
[Xoom General] 2beta:
Does it mean i'll lose nothing with this update ? (no wipe)
[Xoom General] senaca:
I've read in another thread: it's a usual update --> no wipe
[Xoom General] jss42:
Thanks, just updated my UK wifi Xoom (Flashed with the v3 US image ages ago)

Worked great! I also have a Nexus and Xoom both with ICS now :D
[Xoom General] tezvienna:
German language within firmware?

One question: Which languages are supported by this firmware? Is German supported too (not only keyboad layout, but user interface language too)?

Within previous firmwares for the US market only a few languages were supported (I think English, Spanish, French if I remember correctly), but not German.

Regards!
[Xoom General] chazam:
English, Spanish and French sadly.
[Xoom General] 2beta:
I think you need a US rom (without root) to flash this update, so only English, French canadian and Spanish are available. (I'm not not 100% sure, I didn't check this update)
[Xoom General] tezvienna:
If there is no German language, many people will have to wait for the European ICS update, and this will take a while I´m afraid. All European XOOM updates were much later than the US firmwares by Google.:(
[Xoom General] johnzenobia:
I got ICS

I got ICS this morning on my wifi xoom.cool.
[Xoom General] senaca:
Anyone from germany got the update? Just wondering if they filter by IP.
[Xoom General] sodaboy581:
Will you help to post the LTE version when it is available? 'cuz I have an LTE XOOM. Thank you!!
[Xoom General] tryeland:
Is there a way to install this without a host cable?

Thank you for providing the file!
[Xoom General] sodaboy581:
You should just be able to slap it onto the microSD card, renaming it as update.zip, and flash through the stock recovery.
[Xoom General] rds_sp:
Failure on installation process

I'm trying to install this update but I got "assert failed: getprod("ro.product.device") == "wingray" || getprod("ro.product.device") == "wingray"

status 7

I thought this update was for the wingray (mz604).

My device is wingray with HTK75D so anyone has any idea what it could be?

I'm trying using custom recovery since I don't have a host cable.

BTW the stock recovery not recognize the microsd card on the slot.

Regards,
[Xoom General] 2beta:
I've got a Xoom MZ604, No root, Europe but with stock 3.2 US Rom.

When I'm in the recovery , after select "Apply update from USB drive",

I've got always

"E:\failed to mount /sdcard (No such file or directory)"

I put update.zip on a usb key and a micro SDcard, but nothing....

Any Idea ?
[Xoom General] sodaboy581:
You're right, I totally forgot that. :) I'm still waiting for the LTE one, hehe.

Thanks for the inform. Good thing I have an OTG cable and a flash drive.
[Xoom General] PitbulI:
I have a Canadian Wifi Xoom and I have a horrible feeling the rest of the world will get ICS before Canadians do for some reason.

I'm guessing no problems yet from the official testers? Either they won't post or all is going well?
[Xoom General] senaca:
E:\failed to mount /sdcard (no such file or directory) inside Android system recovery <3e>

same. but okay that makes sense if the stock recovery does not recognise the SD card...too bad
[Xoom General] coldconfession13:
same error here
[Xoom General] jm9843:
Does anyone have any early impressions comparing the official ICS build to, say, Team Eos ICS?
[Xoom General] iammodo:
Loving this build.
[Xoom General] CraigSav:
Question

So this update is for the 3G and WIFI Xoom. Since i have upgraded my Xoom to 4G with this affect anything ? Also can i use the Micro SD expansion to flash this update?

Update : Sorry did not see the last post about the SD card error. (Lame!)
[Xoom General] SMRPOWER:
Confirmed!

I just updated using a thumb-drive

Note that i wasnt able to access the recovery menu if a SD card was in the Xoom, as soon as i removed the sdcard and restarted the device i was able to select recovery

Easy to install

Using it rigth now, it really feels somehow faster

:D
[Xoom General] brianj1970:
Is the ADB method needed?

I'd love to try this out, but am at work unfortunately, and left my cable at home.

People who are updated via USB thumb drives, how are you getting into recovery? Many posts back in this thread, instructions mentioned using adb to boot into recovery. Is that method really needed, or will using the power button and volume up/down work just as well? I was able to get to 'Flash update via USB' option, just using the buttons during power up.
[Xoom General] tcrews:
This update is ONLY for the WiFi Xoom.
[Xoom General] CraigSav:
Question.

Thank you. So many sites have different information about this.
[Xoom General] iammodo:
Power on wait 3 seconds after moto logo.

Press volume down.

Android recovery will come up.

Then press volume up.

You will see a green android with a !

Press power and volume up will then get options to flash via USB.

No adb needed.
[Xoom General] brianj1970:
Thanks, that was what I wasn't sure of.

I had gotten to that point, but had no way to test with my cable 40 miles away at home. I bring my Xoom to work all the time, but leave the dock/cable on the living room table.

I wasn't sure if there was something special about using adb that I wasn't aware of.

Now I'm a little bit excited, damn, 4 more hours of work :(
[Xoom General] senaca:
grrrrrrrrr hitting the check for updates button every 5min...nothing!!! *cry*
[Xoom General] SamuriHL:
That's rather pointless. :) And believe me, I understand frustration. Where's the update for the 4G Xoom's? :( SIGH.
[Xoom General] easygoing20016:
Host Cable

I am looking for a host cable. Curious, did one come with XOOM?

BTW, you guys are just amazing. I can not believe the update is here.
[Xoom General] SamuriHL:
If you mean an OTG usb cable that will allow you to plug in a USB flash drive, then no, it didn't come with one. You have to find one that works with the Xoom. I don't have a link handy to the one I bought but it was cheap enough. 5 bucks I think.
[Xoom General] crankerchick:
So, just to get this straight, I have to go back to Honeycomb 3.2 (which I have a nandroid for) and stock recovery (not sure how to get this, have to search) and then I can flash this build, correct? This is of course official so it is not rooted, but I can root again with solarnz updated SU binary, correct? And I do not have to relock the bootloader to take this update.

I'm currently running EOS but wouldn't mind giving this unofficial official build a shot.
[Xoom General] easygoing20016:
Thanks, I am off to the store. I am so excited to get ICS...
[Xoom General] SamuriHL:
If you're going to try to get it in a store, you'll want the camera connection kit. That should work for you.

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This is a great set of questions. When the 4g version comes out I'm going to be in a similar situation. I am stock rooted with CWR. Obviously unlocked. What's required in order to get an update to take? I'm guessing root must go away. Standard recovery? Do we have to wipe the user data partition? Re-lock?
[Xoom General] purljazz:
Just went for a electronic market to get a otg usb host cable - after 2 h city shopping stress when i wanted to connect with my xoom : DEDOOOOT FAIL ... cought mini instead of micro usb .... I'm raging totaly out...... hopefully Amazon will bring it mondays .... just a little episode of the excitement around finaly getting ICS ...

Good luck for all you guys ..make it better !!!

And big big THX to #solarnz
[Xoom General] fidju:
Someone give us a rundown! How it works, how it compares to the other ICS roms available, etc.
[Xoom General] tcrews:
Carrier based Xoom's (3G/4G/GSM) will require the carrier to sign off on the update.

WiFi based Xoom's are GED (Google Experience Device) and get the update from Google.
[Xoom General] SamuriHL:
Oh wonderful. So, basically, when the Xoom 3 is released in the fall we should see the update? :D VZW is not known for their...speed...in signing off on updates. Thanks for the info. I was under the impression that the 3G/4G Xoom was GED, as well, but, apparently not.
[Xoom General] dwisthis:
Xoom family?

I'm slightly ashamed to ask, but will the posted ROM work with the Xoom Family?