yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Hardware Hacking General] LexusFman:
The reason I don't like android is because It's not a desktop OS. I'll be building this tablet-y thing for graphics/image editing, word processing and a little bit of gaming in between and I'm not 100% sure about android graphics programs. I like to keep it simple and use MS Paint, then GIMP if i need a more powerful program. I'm also a windows fanboy and it's what I've been using ever since I was 2... I also like to build things.

I hate the transformer prime. I want a convertible tablet, not a tablet and a little dock thingy...won't serve my purposes.

I didn't know Ziplock bags are staticy by nature. Thanks for the tip.

As far as the accelerometer, I don't know much about them but if it's super difficult I'm probably not going to bother with it. I'll maybe install a switch?
[Hardware Hacking General] Will_nonya:
It's hard to beat windows for functionality but you might check out paint.net as a free replacement for paint.

Over all though I get the idea that you're a little in over your head on this.
[Hardware Hacking General] mtmerrick:
Have you seen the Eee Pad Slider? ;)

Also, Adobe photoshop for android = $10

https://market.android.com/details?id=air.com.adobe.pstouch&hl=en
[Hardware Hacking General] luna_c666:
Dude, I've got photoshop, an office suite, and tons of games, I'd never have to touch a PC again..I am a graphic designer by trade! I can even watch hulu (something not supposed to be capable of on android platforms), I've got a nice stylus and a full qwerty keyboard and mouse- I'm working on the OG transformer not the Prime, as far as I can tell the Prime was pushed too quickly and has issues with all of it's radios due to the metal shell..the TF101 does not have these issues, and the TF700 (basically the prime with the GPS and radios fixed and better resoultion) is available if you don't want to go for the OG transformer.

Seriously sounds like you're trying feverishly to open a can of worms to get a windows tablet when in reality there is no need and windows is given a run for it's money with the new ICS android on the way. Trying to unlock a windows phone after unlocking a whole bunch of Android devices would quickly turn you off of Microsoft as an OS IMO, that's what made me an Android fanboy (I was a windows guy previously, now I'm leaning more and more towards linux/android for their open source code user-friendly programability). But, if you are determined to do something the hard way = the expensive and labor/time-consuming way, no one is going to stop you ;)

Just remember- in the world of technology things are done: Right, Cheap, and/or Fast. BUT, you can only choose two..
[Hardware Hacking General] empy16:
I've done this already with a eeePC 700.

1. The resistive touchscreen. You'll need a stylus for that.

2. Typing with a stylus is horrible.

3. It was heavy. Even when it was only 7inch screen. The battery made it heavy. (but I had 9hours of battery life)

4. You couldn't navigate the boot menu (without an external keyboard)

5. Resistive touchscreen is crap for drawing, because you still want to support your hand on the screen while drawing, which you couldn't do.

6. Moving Items around sucked (no drag and drop)

and many more.

I used it in my bed, for browsing. was good enough, until the touchscreen cable snapped. (I didn't have an external keyboard, so I had to open the tablet, connect the keyboard, and navigate the boot menu when I had to)

Hope this helped. Though it was fun to build it and use it, it's not what you would call an 'every day' tablet :)
[Hardware Hacking General] s8isfi:
Too complicated...

On a second thought how about moding a cheap Tablet with better parts. Is it even possible like are the parts such as a processor, camera, or the radio chip available for tablets and phones.
[Hardware Hacking General] symbiiote:
Why dnt you get a transformer?
[Hardware Hacking General] Rbern144:
In my opinion, it would just be better to settle for an table, prices are gonna drop really soon. The market for Eee PC's alike has diminished since the release of the ipad.
[Hardware Hacking General] robertsmigel22:
This is a wonderful opinion. The things mentioned are unanimous and needs to be appreciated by everyone.
[Hardware Hacking General] Stylezor:
A lot of things to doo, better start with a simple tablet and try to upgrade it if possible... dont know if its possible btw.
[Hardware Hacking General] OmegaRED^:
I did something almost like this.

Took apart a dirt cheap acer aspire one with a small 8 GB SDD.

Small 280 Atom 1.6GHz cpu and cheap intel GMA gpu.

Inverted the screen

Added a extra 512MB ram and inserted a 16GB SD card.

My battery however did not stand up to the task so i ordered a 9 cell pack.

It ran quite stable with 6 days standby or 12hours of heavy usage.

The lack of a accelerometer however made it a pain for quite a few games.

But i did have a vague plan to get value's from it into the android OS using a AVR and a few other cheap parts.

Many manufacturers still produce cheap atom notebooks like these.

But hardware specs have gotten better and better, so you should be able to pick one up for cheap still.
[Hardware Hacking General] VidGameKing:
http://www.axiotron.com

Soooo 2008...
[Hardware Hacking General] xplus93:
I'm doing this with an old pentium 3 thinkbook. I know its not really that great of a computer but it at least redeems it as a usable device.
[Hardware Hacking General] deepakpatil001:
sounds interesting will looking forward for it....
[Hardware Hacking General] mitsosgrk:
Good Idea!
[Hardware Hacking General] showlyshah:
Android OS 2.3

Cortex A8, 700 Mhz Process with HD Video Co Processor

256 MB RAM

Storage: (Internal) 2GB Flash / (External) 2GB to 32GB Supported

Peripherals: 2 Standard USB Ports (Ver. 2.0)

Audio Out: 3.5mm jack

Display and Resolution: 7" Display with 800x480 pixels

Supported Document Formats: All Version Office Document formats and many more

High Quality Video Streaming & HD Quality Video Playback

Input Devices: Resistive Touch Screen

Connectivity with GPRS & WiFi IEEE 802.11 a/b/g

Battery: Upto 180 minutes of battery, AC adaptor 200.240 volts

Above are the spec. Of worlds cheepest tab made in India. Its about 3200inr including shipping. Ie less than 80 us $. Its one of the topest and hotest gadgets in indian market. This years stock for jan and feb went out. U can pre order it for march 2012.

Wondering about the thing??? Yap u cant get an ipod nano at this price..and no tab in the world will beat it.not even china ones!!!! Apple cant imagine to sale their ipod at a price like this... not even their charger.. even a beatz headset will cost much more..

Check its webpage.. www.ubislate.com
[Hardware Hacking General] HibikiTaisuna:
I think a transformer or current tablets and convertibles arent the correct devices for him. What he needs is as Windows device with a Wacom Stylus. No Tablet or Netvertible/Convertible of newer production series supports it.

I searched for a very long time, too. I would recommend you to buy an old IBM ThinkPad (f. e. X61t) or HP via ebay. They cost round about 400 to 500 Euros (if you have luck) and many of them do use Wacom technology.

for example:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/IBM-Lenovo-T...eripheriegeräte_Notebooks&hash=item45fcfabc16

It's a cheap device, offers a Wacom Stylus Support and it does have enough power to use Photoshop, ArtRage, GIMP and so on.

At the time I wanted to buy such a device they were much more expensive (1 1/2 years ago).

Now that I think about it... I will buy one too XD
[Hardware Hacking General] bhundven:
Sounds to me like you want a lenovo thinkpad convertible tablet. I owned an x61 tablet for a long time. Same specs as you describe, and I think some work was planned or done on the android-x86 project for it. Go search google groups.
[Hardware Hacking General] bconover93:
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[Hardware Hacking General] jensblau:
asus

asus eeeslate
[Hardware Hacking General] daywalker599:
thanks brother
[Hardware Hacking General] rogerski1:
How about using a raspberry pi?? http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs
[Hardware Hacking General] Sherlock-holmes2:
You would need about $300-$700 to do this, but it has been done many times before. I am working on one that can run windows 8, 7, Android 2.1, 4.0.3. I like Windows for it's ability to run exe files such as eclipse, android sdk, cheat engine, 7-zip, notepad++, adobe flash cs4, ect. You could modify android system files with Windows file explorer and 7-zip, make apps in eclipse then test them in android. The possibilities are near-endless. I support you.
[Hardware Hacking General] vantt1:
O rly?

Your idea may be plausible, and I can see the advantages of having a large hard drive and an optical drive, but there may be quite a few holes in your idea.

Windows 7 is touch optimized (barely), but requires at least 1GB of RAM and a dedicated graphics chip to be good for anything. Even a netbook of this calibre will cost at least $500. If you plan to do this modification to an older laptop, touch input will be a pain to use without the scrolling, long press and single-tap functions of a tablet. Every laptop is different, and due to all of the internal wiring and mounts for the hard drive and optical drive, you can't really move away from the original case. I guarantee you; you will NOT be able to modify an existing laptop into a convertible one.

What's wrong with Android? If it's clunky, how would you describe Windows? You can easily run a linux based desktop OS on any of today's Android tablets (not the fake ones though, but who wants a desktop OS on a tablet? I only run Windows 95 on my droid because I can. It isn't good for anything other than saying "Because I can.")

IBM PC-based machines will never be as power efficient as ARM based machines, and that is why a 4000mAh battery will last at least twice as long on a tablet than a netbook. Likewise, good luck trying to put a sleep button on the laptop, let alone have a standby feature that is practical. Given the x86 nature of any given laptop, they will have heatsinks (if not also fans) to keep them from blowing up. They are at least the thickness of a standard 9.7-10.1 inch tablet. Add the battery, LCD and touch panel and you have a 1 inch thick device.

After you get an accelerometer, what are you going to do from there? Windows is designed to be a desktop and laptop OS, and doesn't need real time screen rotation. How are you going to link the accelerometer to the graphics driver? Even if you do, you'll have to wait at least three seconds for the screen to redraw.

And cost? At least $150 for a single-touch touch panel. A decent Android tablet only costs $139.

If you've solved these problems, let me know.

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But if you're only going to use MSpaint on it, then I guess just any 7 inch netbook will do. You know, you could just buy a Windows CE tablet for $160 or a Windows 7 tablet for around $400, but the 90 minute battery life is going to let you down.

Oh yeah, someone else may have mentioned this before. Ziplock bags are bad news for electronic parts.
[Hardware Hacking General] stricnin:
Agreed!!!! Raspberry pi would be awesome!!!!
[Hardware Hacking General] TwiztedDotNet:
Not that I prefer it over the Android OS, but there's always WebOS (now open-source) by HP.

I have many co-workers that picked up their tablets, and they pretty much all put Android on it, but the stock WebOS may just be what you're looking for.

Have you looked into it at all?
[Hardware Hacking General] Moon2:
How about the dell mini 9 with touchscreen mod?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/10/dell-mini-9-modded-into-motion-sensitive-touchscreen-tablet-vi/
[Hardware Hacking General] k_czerwiec:
very good idea! :)
[Hardware Hacking General] firebird112:
good idea but in my opinion I don't think its too easy to do but try :)
[Hardware Hacking General] pierut:
I'd like to pair a pico-itx board with a lcd monitor to use as a tablet..i might be in over my head... at least financially ;_;
[Hardware Hacking General] twelfthsiren:
Good idea...got an old one
[Hardware Hacking General] Samuelgames:
Hey everyone, I was reading XDA as usual when I have found this thread, If you really want to make a tablet, I really recommend you use an old laptop, Read disassemble guides on how you could fit everything, and specially find a way to make the LCD cables reach the motherboard in a relocated position, I have done a tablet myself quite some time ago, Right now it runs on Windows 8, but I plan to dual boot it with Android as soon as Android x86 supports NVIDIA GPUs, I have used an Asus A6JC for my project, and I have bought a Resistive touchscreen (Yes! Resistive! I care about accuracy more than touch friendless, this is a productivity tablet [Also because resistive touchscreens are cheaper]) on eBay, here's the finish product, running the Developer Preview of Windows 8 (Yes this photo is quite old):
[Hardware Hacking General] ricky1001:
Sounds like a tough plan,but nevertheless we should give it a try.
[Hardware Hacking General] shravbits:
iPad killer!!
[Hardware Hacking General] Electrolight:
I think this is what your looking for.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/321957-321957-64295-3740645-3955549-5071191.html?dnr=1

It is a tablet PC with Windows 7. It has a touch screen and the screen swivels around so you can use it like an iPad. It has a stylist and is smaller then most laptops. Be warned, because of its compact size it does not have a CD drive.
[Hardware Hacking General] erikvario:
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-tablet-pc-from-an-old-laptop/

http://www.instructables.com/id/Windows-8-Tablet/
[Hardware Hacking General] slicer91:
Woah, nice work on that. How much did you spend?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mhausig:
First time setting up car bluetooth and I've been having problems with apps conflicting when bluetooth audio commands are sent. The two main apps I want to use are Pandora and Poweramp but other apps appear to be intercepting the commands and starting up instead.

Is there a solution besides uninstalling or freezing every offending app? I'd had some similar issues before with crap headphone jack connectors that might have inadvertently shorted and triggered commands.

Phone is Droid X running Shuji 2.5. Offending apps so far are Jukefox and Ubermusic, both uninstalled (wasn't using either of them).

The connection with the car broke after uninstalling Ubermusic and couldn't get reestablished so I don't know if there are anymore problem apps.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] beady_uk:
Hi

Has anyone been able to get google talk with video chat working?

This is for my girlfriends phone so we can video chat (i have a sensation). I have tried all the methods in this thread and also tried paul o brien's (modaco) gtalk 1.3 installer app from the market but they all result in force closes.

So im hoping someone has had success and can point me in the right direction.

Thanks

EDIT: This should be in the apps and themes section. Can a mod please move this. My appologies
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] tanveer55:
skype

i havn't tried gtalk but if video calling over the internet is just what you want then i suggest you use skype. Its working fine on this fone.

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have you tried this?

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skymobius.vtok&feature=search_result
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] beady_uk:
Yeah i have tried Vtok but it is not much good. It hasnt been updated for 9 months and it doesnt work very well. Skype is what we are using at the minute but it doesnt have the ease of use that gtalk has.

Im sure samsung will provide an update for this........ eventually
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] GuestK0065:
Hahahaha... Haha... Ha.

They won't =( They only care about not letting you root your phone and find new ways to make TouchWiz an even bigger RAM whore.

Why do you think Skype isn't intuitive? I prefer it over Google Talk actually..
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] pascom75:
I've tried gtalk 1.3 with audio/video chat. It doesn't work!! Webcam works, switch webcams works, the user hears my voice but I don't hear his voice. When I close chat I have to reboot the smartphone because audio doesn't work!!!

Inviato dal mio GT-I8150
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] beady_uk:
Its just my personal opinion really. i think skype running in the background all the time chomping battery and data when we already have google talk installed and i just think the google talk app is small and neat... Especially on ICS on my sensation :D

Hopefully a dev might look into this when they make roms for this phone.
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
Does it exist? By inverted i mean that the black and the white elements are flip-flopped.
[HTC Rezound] andybones:
um.. have you seen this?http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1437181
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
um, i have....i was looking for inverted...not themed
[HTC Rezound] dragonrazorz:
Same here....i just want blk background with white text....
[HTC Rezound] techrevive:
I can handle that...
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
That'd be great!
[HTC Rezound] dragonrazorz:
Really?? Awesome!!
[HTC Rezound] techrevive:
Yeah, really... I'm working on it now you can thank fernando sor over at his thread here. He actually allowed everyone to use his base to theme from so the xml edits are there for me already. I'm working on images now. Should be done soon.
[HTC Rezound] dragonrazorz:
Great! Thanks!
[HTC Rezound] dmoses1969:
Cant wait. Really like the inverted apps.
[HTC Rezound] localceleb:
I agree. Much easier on the eyes. Might have an impact on battery life too, who knows...
[HTC Rezound] dragonrazorz:
Was this forgotten?
[HTC Rezound] texanaustinite:
Any progress

?
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
Try this. It is a work in progress but useable. If you like it let me know

Should work on any GB ROM. Flashable in recovery
[HTC Rezound] dragonrazorz:
Crap lol. Just went to ics
[HTC Rezound] JeramyEggs:
Worked great Nils, thanks for sharing...
[HTC Rezound] YamiYaiba:
This is why I love you, Nils.

Though, you probably just further complicated my decision on whether to keep BAMF, flash Business ICS, or flash newtoroot's ICS. You two were always my favorite devs lol
[HTC Rezound] dragonrazorz:
http://www.rujelus22.com/evo/m/

There's some inverted apps on there that work on ics Roma and I got inverted mms ics from vibrant thread
[HTC Rezound] n0-0ne:
I'm on CleanROM 1.6.5 and I lost the messaging app after flashing this.

Had to do a restore :(
[HTC Rezound] who MIKE D:
Same here man
[HTC Rezound] maoz59:
Will it work on Htc wildfire s?
[HTC Rezound] AshtonTS:
*facepalm*
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
Hi All!

I tried do root my phone but i have a problem. i follow this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=696189

i did old style root operation. After i run step1 everything was okey, and then i go on for second step with that command. but after that i got the following

"nohup: appending output to nohup.out" .

When i enter the recovery screen just nothing, black screen. What can i do? how can i succed. Please i need help. My phone is s-off.

C:\erim\r5-desire-root-alt>step2-windows.bat

Desire Root Step 2

Pushing required files to device...

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *

* daemon started successfully *

push: files/etc/mtab -> /etc/mtab

push: files/etc/fstab -> /etc/fstab

push: files/sbin/wipe -> /sbin/wipe

push: files/sbin/unyaffs -> /sbin/unyaffs

push: files/sbin/ums_toggle -> /sbin/ums_toggle

push: files/sbin/um -> /sbin/um

push: files/sbin/tune2fs -> /sbin/tune2fs

push: files/sbin/toolbox -> /sbin/toolbox

push: files/sbin/sdparted -> /sbin/sdparted

push: files/sbin/recovery -> /sbin/recovery

push: files/sbin/reboot -> /sbin/reboot

push: files/sbin/parted -> /sbin/parted

push: files/sbin/nandroid-mobile.sh -> /sbin/nandroid-mobile.sh

push: files/sbin/mkyaffs2image -> /sbin/mkyaffs2image

push: files/sbin/mke2fs -> /sbin/mke2fs

push: files/sbin/log2sd -> /sbin/log2sd

push: files/sbin/fs -> /sbin/fs

push: files/sbin/flash_image -> /sbin/flash_image

push: files/sbin/fix_permissions -> /sbin/fix_permissions

push: files/sbin/e2fsck -> /sbin/e2fsck

push: files/sbin/dump_image -> /sbin/dump_image

push: files/sbin/busybox -> /sbin/busybox

push: files/sbin/backuptool.sh -> /sbin/backuptool.sh

push: files/sbin/adbd -> /sbin/adbd

push: files/system/bin/sh -> /system/bin/sh

push: files/system/bin/linker -> /system/bin/linker

push: files/system/lib/libstdc++.so -> /system/lib/libstdc++.so

push: files/system/lib/libm.so -> /system/lib/libm.so

push: files/system/lib/liblog.so -> /system/lib/liblog.so

push: files/system/lib/libcutils.so -> /system/lib/libcutils.so

push: files/system/lib/libc.so -> /system/lib/libc.so

31 files pushed. 0 files skipped.

1396 KB/s (3709881 bytes in 2.593s)

Pushing update file to device sdcard - this may take a few minutes...

1223 KB/s (126445058 bytes in 100.891s)

Now wipe and apply rootedupdate.zip from the recovery image menu.

nohup: appending output to nohup.out
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
hi as you s-off did you try flash recovery via fastboot?

fastboot flash recovery "your recovery image name"
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
i dont have recovery image file ? Which file i should use ? can you share a link with me ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
see my signature
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
i tried to type fastboot but fail. "fastboot couldnt find". Where is fastboot? in which step i can command fastboot ?

i download "fastboot" but i couldnt succed again. i got this exception "fastboot: access denied"
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
sorry, I expected you have it... see attached or use fastboot commander from here
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
i get the "access is denied"? how can i pass this exception ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
can you post me info from fastboot screen please
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
http://postimage.org/image/vn5ah3t9j this is my fastboot screen.

image :
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
Sorry I have shoot off to work, try unrevoked and flash recovery with it
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
i can enter recovery menu now. And also i follow the instructions again. Wipe data/factory and then install zip from sdcard. And i succed but my phone hasnt open.After reboot I can see a just white screen and htc logo. what should i do ? what is my problem ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
And Dalvik wiped?

Or do full wipe and flash rom as you like
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
am i need or not? i just usefirst option. Wipe All data/factory reset. If i need i can. Then what will i do ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
You have to do it as you changed system files... What do you want to do next?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
first i want to open my phone. Then i want to install a custom rom.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
As you have recovery just download your next rom, wipe and install
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
I wiped Dalvik. And install .zip again but same result. i have black screen and both side have white lines.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
Can you boot to recovery or fastboot
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erimerturk:
yes. I think i need a suitable rom for me. Can you suggest me ? I have already downloaded this one RunnymedeMod007 from here http://acesmod.viperts.info/RunnymedeMod007/v14/RunnymedeMod007_v14_c-CM7-STOCK.zip but i dont know it is suitable or not.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] berceniqgil:
Post your comments, experience, review, etc. about the rom you are using so we can help other new SGM users whos tryin to flash a new ROM (so we can give them a bit of idea of what is what on each and every rom)