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[HTC EVO 3D] sag04463:
hboot 1.5 s-off. Is this a true s-off or whats the deal

This past weekend I rooted my 3D evo and my girlfriends 3D evo. I had a bunch of problems during the process with mine. receiving 4g on the blackened rom, had to go into the msl settings a couple times, ect.... then when all was said and done, at the boot menu it said s-off.

On the other hand, when i rooted my girlfriends evo 3D, I had no issues at all went through really easily then at the end her's said s-on! I was baffled, I had used the same process, and both of our phones have hboot 1.5?

Does this mean I can install roms from recovery? I have a the full (I think it's revolutionary) recovery on it. Options to install from zip and all.

However I did try and install a custom kernal from kernal manager and had to reinstall the blackened rom (Which is awsome btw) because I couldn't get 4G or wifi. (RCMIX Kernal). When i tried to flash a new kernal over the rcmix, it went through the process rebooted...then nothing still had the RCMIX kernal? So I reinstalled blackened. Totally fine, everything working 100%.

Any explainations, I haven't been able to find anyone with 1.5 hboot s-off doing a google search, only people who say it's coming soon. I also figured this would be the best place to post this considering there is no hboot 1.5 general section. if there is please move this there.

Thanks in advance
[HTC EVO 3D] Jabawockee:
Hboot 1.5 s-off is not possible at the moment. Probably wouldn't be worth it to the devs at this point in time with ICS around the corner. That OTA update will most likely change the bootloader.

sent from America....F__k yeah!
[HTC EVO 3D] Hiya Buddy:
@sag04463 Jabawockee is right, that doesn't seem possible. And your issue is a common problem with Hboot 1.5. You gotta get the Flashimage GUI from joeykrim or you could do it via fastboot and remember a few simple commands. That 4G/Wifi issue seems to only be problematic with Hboot 1.5 because HTC didn't fully unlock the bootloader or something (Experts, take it easy on me I'm not sure about this) and it doesn't allow for the installation of custom kernels.
[EVO 4G General] GuestX0011:
Anyone know why when I tried to open a network support ticket they are detecting I'm on a mikfroyo rom. I changed Roms so many times the past 6months.. so what the hell is up with that:

They even said you have to be on a official Rom.. man how they detect this info is pretty funny. And how wrong it is.

But any way to fix that issue
[EVO 4G General] nemoid:
Why do you think they would give you support when you voided your warranty by rooting and installing another ROM?

I mean seriously...
[EVO 4G General] GuestX0011:
I don't need support. I do wish to inform them of their network problem here... If so I have 8 other people with Sprint who are official.. who can report the network problem aswell ... Why would I need support if my phone is perfectly fine. And besides the fact I'm not running the Rom they are indicating I am...
[EVO 4G General] nemoid:
Again... think about it for a little bit. They don't know if you have 8 other people who are experiencing they same problem you are.

They're not going to waste their time with a problem that could be the result of a modded phone.
[EVO 4G General] Febby:
You only voided your warranty with HTC, not sprint. I've taken my rooted/S-OFF device many times and have talked to the store reps and they have no policy against rooted devices. There is stores that will give you a hassle just to be lazy, meanwhile other stores will ask you to simply flash back to stock to help narrow down issues caused by software or hardware.
[EVO 4G General] GuestX0011:
Oh so a version from stock that just has apps removed that ate considered bloated. So that can be a phone error. Dude I've flashed many roms kernels and radios and its the network. I'm not after phone support. I don't need a warranty on my Damn phone but I pay them for service via their towers if they have issues with it then they should fix their network problems. I will pay insurion if I have phone issues its why I have them.
[EVO 4G General] GuestX0011:
The guy just said to install a stock Rom and give him info. The guy was like okay 3rd party. You need to install stock . But he did agree there is probably a problem in the area.
[EVO 4G General] GuestX0011:
ANyways the guy said I should keep stock until testing is done well. Im on a modified stock rom etc (testing this rom out). Anyways is there a way to show them my software/build number as stock or whatever to fool them when i re provision it to update their system?
[EVO 4G General] nicholaaaas:
no they are not wasting their time providing CUSTOMER support to a paying CUSTOMER
[EVO 4G General] culua:
How can Sprint finds out if your rooted with a custom Rom? Even they never saw the phone?
[EVO 4G General] GuestX0011:
I used to Run Mikfroyo but the thing is I don't know how they know I was on a custom rom. Maybe when provision your phone it sends that data. Now I'm On a different rom but i was unaware how he knew. The guy *PinkElmo* basically just said to go back to stock ROM for the duration of the testing (sounds like he not only not has a problem with it but sounds like he uses custom as wellXD).

I'm still puzzled as to how they found out...
[EVO 4G General] culua:
I also currently using mikfroyo 4.61. But I didn't start rooting after a month signing up.
[EVO 4G General] GuestX0011:
I had to provision a few months back though... But It Got me wondering. I have been downloading a stock rom at 199mb it should take roughly 2-8 hours on the Sprints NOW DialUp Network
[EVO 4G General] KommodoreHeinz:
Sprint has a program called OMA-DM. This program has all the information from the status section of your device. When I worked for sprint we would have customers update their data profile, this would send the information to the tool. The rep can then see what rom you are on. However this did not work on AOSP roms since they do not update the profile.

If you want to fool sprint update your profile under a stock unmodified rom, then flash to AOSP, the info for the sense rom would be still in the system.

Furthermore they can see if you have updated the profile, so if you tell them that you did they will be able to see if you actually did or not.. They are also able to view all the transactions with dates and times between your phone and the tool.

My advise to you is to suck it up and run the official rom until the testing is over, usually about a week.

Also sprint has no control over a custom rom, so they automatically have you update profile and firmware to the current version to ensure that the phone is working to their standards and things that they have control over.

TL;DR - Quit complaining and use a stock rom so sprint can do their testing.
[EVO 4G General] Pao23:
The complaining in this thread has me puzzled. Run a stock Tom for them to test, reinstall favorite Tom when done...
[EVO 4G General] bencollinz:
is your favorite "Tom" a "Tom Collins"? hahaha, sorry. i had to.
[EVO 4G General] GuestX0011:
Thanks and for data profile. Just the one under updates? If so it would have shown mikg if clean rom :p I got a download of stock and was going to flash it when i can before Tuesday since Monday is a holiday...

Thanks for informing me how they detect what Rom your on.
[EVO 4G General] scottspa74:
I imagine sprint can know quite a bit about your phone. When I had my diamond, (or maybe it was my Evo, I forget) something wasn't working right. I got on the phone with a tech, and he proceeded to to operate my phone while I was holding my phone. I could see the screen clicks, and him going from one menu to another, operating my phone remotely. Blew me away.

As for the monitoring SW mentioned earlier in this thread, does it read build prop values? Cuz I'm guessing that's how they get your device info.

Lastly, post 2 and 3 about not expecting sprint to work on/assess your rooted phone. BS. Sprint has given mixed signals about this. I know there have been internal memos released stating they now will honor rooted phones. I think lazyness is the culprit when a comes to CSRs or techs rejecting for root. I've always taken in my rooted phone and put a stockish rom on it first, when I have a hardware problem (blown speaker, broken screen, etc.)

sent from xda app on drews ics
[EVO 4G General] KommodoreHeinz:
Yes the one under the updates.

They used an application call LogMeIn Rescue. It gives them the ability to remotely view/control a pc, windows or blackberry phone. Its actually a lot easier to do it for a customer more often then trying to walk them through it.

Yes the information displayed in the about phone section is stored in the build.prop.

As for the software; software plays a factor in how the device operates and communicates with the network. Sprint has designed the stock software on their devices to their standards. They know their software and how it works. Now take a custom rom, one that has be frankenstined together. How do you expect a company to properly troubleshoot and diagnose a problem that could very well be related to the customer software?

I totally agree with the laziness part on the Tech Reps, after working with the company for several years, Id have to say most of the reps were less educated or technically minded about the device that they were working with. I could not tell you how many times I would hear customers complain about the Tech Reps.

Going to a hardware issue, Custom software would not break the screen, blow a speaker, or otherwise cause physical damage to the device (with the exception of a battery). So these should have no effect on hardware warranty's or exchanges.
[HTC EVO 3D] iamdata:
Firstly. I would never trade in on one of these sites, but living in the uk. You see ads like "get cash for your mobile before your upgrades due....."

So what's the evo 3d worth? Let's look at what the galaxy sII is worth first... 220! Is that it? Ok so now how about the e3d? 70.

Rubbish lol

Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515m
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
i say good man, your evaluation of my cellular device's value is indeed ghastly and absurd! would you care to join me for a cup of joe lata to discuss the foray?

how was my english???
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maysam_18:
Hi,

I've got a HTC Desire for more than a year. I've rooted it about 3 months ago. It was just fine until and two months later it, when I turned on my phone, the screen was black with white lines on it. The touch screen works as normal. I brought it to one of the local shops. The had a look at it and said that they would charge me £150. They had to change the whole screen I think. But if I can do it myself how much could it cost me? Or should I let HTC repair it for me?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kotag82:
hi screen replacement cost just about £25 i had screen cracked... I did it myself in 30 min... Just be aware what screen you have Amoled or SLCD

PM me for details
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dugyot:
im trying to figure out which latest rom has ads because some of the games i have has free stuff but i wont be able to use them because of the ad remover. Thank You.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shiftr182:
replace the host file in /system/etc with this one http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=845027&d=1325871602 from Calkulin

Edit: flash it through recovery
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dugyot:
How do i copy that cant find system. What program do i use?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mizex:
You would just put it in your SD Card and run it from recovery like any other zip. It will take care of the rest.
[General Questions and Answers] AJ88:
how to install sense UI on galaxy y?

is it possible to do that?

if yes than how?

where to find it?
[General Questions and Answers] TRusselo:
not possible, htc only, and questions like this about android would be better in the android questions and answers area not xda general questions...

check out the new user guide in my sig
[General Questions and Answers] MacaronyMax:
It's not impossible ;)

But, For the Galaxy Y I think there is no port of it, and it is pretty unlikely there won't be
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leime68:
hello I have my tf101 rooted but what is now the best costum rom?

p.s used google trensalte;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tripsyk:
That is a matter of opinion, you can't really ask anyone that. They all have their key areas they focus on.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpmccarthy:
Try a few. Gives you practise flashing. I only just got my tf as well - I've tried Prime and am now a currently on revolution hd. Also worth looking at revolver and krakd.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fone_fanatic:
I recommend prime. I used it for a couple months and it was the smoothest and most stable. I tried out android HD and ran into some issues (browser crashed mostly) and now I'm testing out revolver.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s1l3nt:
its all about user preference. Try them all and see which one fits your needs. I flashed revolver as my first rom and haven't flashed any other one because i didnt need to.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neofreek01:
yeah just check em out all of them are better than stock in my opinion ive tried prime revovler and revolution and all of were smooth some roms have different features. that why its best to try em all cuz you might like one set of features more than another. lways take a backup of your stock rom and leave it right on thr microsd and you can always get back if you have a problemm.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dark lord me:
Agreed that's what i did. Went revolver and have had no interest in going to another ROM
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uploder:
same here. revolver is immaculate.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JITucker:
I am using Revolver. It has a ton of features built in. This ROM in conjunction with Revolver Parts is really everything you need. JMO.

JT
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wildestpixel:
I'm a Brit and I use a Brit Dev's ROM ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] combat goofwing:
Mines on KRAKD:+)

DESIRE HD using ER3BUS ASUS TRANSFORMER on KRAKD
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brattesani:
I've been using krakd and have been happy but my tf just started to discharge overnight so I have some looking in to do.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jaydizz:
I'm currently on Revolver. The one feature that keeps me coming back to this rom; the force time-out of wifi. I love not having to use a secondary app (auto-airplane) in order to auto-disconnect from wifi to conserve battery life. I also love being able to kill the apps by using the app-switch button. Not the best battery life with this rom (that goes to revolution HD in my experience).

I was also a big fan of prime for a while, but it kind of fell behind with the updates. While I haven't had any issues with revolver, Prime just felt the most stable. I also loved the boot animation.

I had the best battery life with Revolution HD, but I would get occasional lockups with this rom. Probably had something to do with the undervolt settings of the custom kernal. The settings just didn't agree with my transformer.

I can't comment on Krakd. I installed it and only played around with it briefly before flashing something else.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
I've been using on a daily basis every rom out there. I am now back to the stock rom. Probably because I'm preparing for ICS LOL.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luna_c666:
Can anyone give me a rundown of what features Krakd is missing that Revolver has (if any)? I did try revolver, but wasn't too impressed initially, but I was flashing like crazy and didn't do a lot of exploring within each rom, really tested for stability and speed and (I know how this sounds) boot animation (yes, I know I can change it...), I was on Prime for a while, but then decided to try Krakd and got stuck with it (in a good way). Should I be considering giving revolver another look?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SWEagle:
I've tested all ROM's but i've got back to prime again. Prime is very stable, it as quick controls build in, you don't need to install ICS themes (it comes already with it), and i love the startup! :D

The others are very good Rom's but i perfere this one. (it is really a question of preference).

One thing that i you can't left out on any ROM is the AWD EX launcher... It makes every transformer completely smooth like an Ipad. IT'S A MUST HAVE!

I have a video on youtube that can demonstrate the performance of my table with AWD EX but i can't post any outside links on this forum yet. If you guys want to have a look just search on youtube for: Asus Transformer with Rom Prime v2.1.0 CPU 1Ghz@1.544Ghz ADW EX

I think your gona like it! :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragon_76:
I prefer Revolver after trying other ROMs because I had strange problems on Prime like the function keys on my keyboard stop working andwould require reboot as well as search not working anywhere unless I used the search key.

Revolver also has so many optional customisations/installble apps as well as kernels and with Revolver parts all of this is automated.

Gnufabio is extremely active in multiple forums and also has monetary incentive set up with Revolver Parts having a donate and an Elite version. I feel like he is more ambitious about quality.

Cheers!

-M

Xda member since 2007
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tripsyk:
I run Revolver and am incredibly happy with it. I haven't tried any of the other ROMs here, but they are all almost the same, so just try some out and figure out which one works best for you.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadymouse:
Besides boot animations and themes, many of the ROMs are the same. Battery life is an opinion base topic. Some would say they have the best battery life is with Revolver, then some would argue that Prime has the best, in other words it's all preference. Just make sure you choose the right Kernel, as the Kernel usually is the key component. Some ROMs run "OK" at first but if you flash a different Kernel, it could definitely make a world of a difference (Good or Bad).
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cdon2109:
Mine's on Android Revolution HD. The only ROM I have tried. Battery drains fast though.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flyinj54:
Sticking with kraked:-)
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottyf79:
Krakd for me. My needs on my TF are minimal so having a lightweight rom was ideal. Its fast aswell and taking that the rom itself is still relatively young, has lots of potential. Also imo the dev is keen for the users to get involved and suggest ideas and contribute which is a nice touch........

Like its already been suggested - why not give them all a go. They are all good, just depends on what you need.

As a side note, Roach's works been awesome on the TF so nuff respect for my fellow Scot :p
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] combat goofwing:
KRAKD

DESIRE HD using ER3BUS ASUS TRANSFORMER on KRAKD
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] will8578:
KKrad rules
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bukithd:
i stick to KRAKD mainly. If you're scared of stability issues in roms use ARHD
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danzano:
Krakd is awesome stock but also a great base to work from!!!

It is the only rom i havent broken yet with mods and tweaks lol

Sent from my tf Enigmatic V2 beta 1.65Ghz Panda.test cust kernel settings
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riceboyler:
Tried Revolver, but it just felt funky to me. Flashed Krakd after that and haven't looked back. Fast, great Upd8r tool and lightweight.

Oh, and +1 for the ADW EX launcher. SO much better than the standard HC launcher, IMO.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kitchenfork:
Yep, Krakd for me too. I had Prime orignally and it was ok, but the updates seemed to stop so flashed Krakd and have never looked back.

Might have to try this ADW Ex launcher out that people are speaking off.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carhauler1969:
Just got my TF for Christmas, rooted it the same day. Ran stock with Roach2010's OC kernel for a few days, then Clemsyn/Blades latest, both were very snappy. So far I've tried the "big 4" - Prime, Revolver, ARHD, & Krakd on both the aforementioned kernels. I made a nandroid of each ROM before flashing the next.

My favorite so far is Revolver mainly because of Revolver Parts app, it's very similar to what I am used to running on my EVO 4G with VaelPak & VaelPak Settings. Second would be Prime, then ARHD, then Krakd.

I'm still in ROM hopping mode on the Transformer, so I'll be revisiting each ROM again, & finding out what I like best about each one. All 4 have proven to be rock solid stable even OC'd @ up to 1.680GHz. I don't recall having a single random reboot, or crash of any kind. That speaks volumes about the caliber of developers for this particular device, & I can't wait to see what they do with ICS!!! :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paradaz:
I've played with them all, it certainly comes down to an individuals needs/opinion on what suits them.

I had a long stint on Prime, then Revolver, followed by Revolution........went back to Revolver to test some updates and have now settled with Krakd.

Revolver and Krakd have the update tools which enables me to restore everything back to how I want it very quickly with minimum of fuss. I've stayed with Krakd as I think it edges it with being the most lightweight, very smooth and stable.

I'm sure everyone could put arguments for their ROM of choice being 'better' than the others in various areas.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DatDude123:
Highly recommend Revolver by Gnufabio
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wackydroid:
I also HIGHLY recommend Revolver by Gnufabio.

Not only is it a very slick, clean, fast ROM, but he is constantly improving it.

In addition he's created an app, Revolver Parts, (free in the Market), that keeps you updated automatically AND has different categories of tweaks built right into it.

A+++

:cool:
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tomak1n:
Revolver by Gnufabio - updated and always jumping on improvements. + revolver parts in the market for simple updates/add on
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Topol-Ms:
I have tried all roms i found revolver is the best one
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HTC__BOY:
This is why i tried Revolver but the wireless wouldnt connect to my router.

I tried Krakd and it works perfectly so my vote went to Krakd
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yank555:
Tried Prime, Krakd and Revolver.

My vote goes to Revolver hand down, the best ROM with perfect support. Works fast, is stable, all I need ;)

JP.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rob.1bmf:
im running KRAKD, love it would not use anything else
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salv-ice:
I've bought my Transformer on Christmas and flashed it just two days later with the Revolver rom (stock kernel). I'm very happy with Revolver since the first day. It's very fast and stable.

The features I like the most are Revolver parts and it's OTA update system and the integrated app killer.

Gnufabio is doing a great job on this !
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edmone:
i like revolver rom, very smooth for my tf101 and can be customise with revolver parts,

so i can use any mod kernel via ota, very simple way to try any kernel in my tf101
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradysd4:
I have only tried RevolutionHD,but it has been very stable, and I haven't needed to look elsewhere. Also Mike1986 was very fast with his last update - only a few days after the ASUS OTA came out. His is on 8.6.6.23 and the others seem to be still back at version 8.6.5.21.