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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tedr44:
Spoiledfree's GPS screenshot

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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
Lol mine started working too! Indoors second floor. Router on 1st floor.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tedr44:
Her Prime shows excellent fix and accuracy while others report their inability to lock or even maintain it. So how can a gps sensor shielded by a metal case function this well? There's more to it than meets the eye. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] spoiledfree:
Thanks for info tedr44
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
This one without the help of my router just stand alone GPS. Still locking. Again I haven't been able to get a lock before but somehow I am now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tedr44:
What was it doing before it started working, did you notice any influence from the wifi? We need a detailed description please, if you don't mind. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tedr44:
Ur welcome ;D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] trita629:
I was able to get a lock without WiFi and sitting in the middle of my house with no windows around. I don't feel like driving around at this time though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
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I had changed the channel to my router after wifi analyzer telling me channel 1 was the best from ch 11. I then changed it to b/g from b/g/n. Saw your post so figured I'd try GPS again. The rest was history:)

No wifi. Stand alone GPS second floor bedroom
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tedr44:
Thanks, great feedback. So it seems gps works when wifi is disabled, we need more samplings to develop a strong case. If everyone can test their gps while wifi/bt are disabled and upload their screenshots here that may cause Asus to stop and listen.

---------- Post added at 10:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:53 PM ----------

My initial thought is radio interference generated by wifi and bt with the metal case acting as a reflector thus swamping the weak gps signals. We need a bench test to prove this out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ilostmypistons:
Channel1or 2412MHz seems to be my sweet spot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yhzhrm:
My observations from my testing GPS on Prime/ICS/GPSv6.8.13.

I am at latitude 44.46.605.N

WIFI only required to down load GPS sat data (agps). WIFI on did not help GPS location when using apps GPS Status or GPS Test. In over an hour of testing these apps only had a fix once (fixed 4/inview7). The signal noise ratio (SNR) was between 10 and 20 depending on the sat never higher. The majority of my time I only saw 1 or 2 sats but they came and went.

The GPS icon on the task bar was visible. I only noticed that the GPS icon was flashing (I am guessing this means it’s active) if I toggled BT on/off. If I switched from one GPS app to another the GPS icon was displayed but the inner circle was empty.

While using GPS status from a cold start the app would sometimes indicate refresh failed, please try again.

Most frustrating is that that during my testing the app would see different sats one at a time but never the same ones. For example. It could see sat 23, next time it would see sat 17 although 23 was coming in good a few minutes early.

Before ICS installed (HC GPSv5.8.12) my GPS test using GPS Status WIFI on showed stats fixed 6/inview 7).

I compared the Prime against my SG2 phone using GPS Status. Phone found 9/9 stats a fix was obtained in under a minute and SNR was above 40 for all stats.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] adampdx:
Yep, seems to be much better than before. With a clear view of the sky, WIFI off or on, got a lock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdelliott31:
To me posts like this are only relevant if you are driving. That seems to be the ultimate test. Even the ones that are upset were getting a lock outside. It was when they were moving that their phones or whatever would get better signal.

I'm on neither side, just playing devils advocate.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
Mine also worked fine when I took it outside
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Danny80y:
Mine seems to be fine.... WiFi on this was indoors just locks in a few seconds....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] giji78:
well, it did worked for a while, though just for few minutes.

hope asus can issue some solution on it, either step by step operation or an update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ajkid93:
all you have to do is go to settings > asus customized settings > enable screenshots > then just hold down recent app button.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] resist:
That or just hold down power and volume (-) for a second or two....no need to fiddle with the settings at all that way.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mikroft:
Took mine for a quick drive running Sygic. It was able to track me on the GPS. It was a little laggy due to accuracy but usable. This is with ICS update and wifi off. First time running GPS app.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
Now I'm getting much better locks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
That's not a good fix if its outdoors.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nhshah7:
Is it any better with wifi on?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
No ****, but I live in a house, why should it need to work there? I don't think the GPS should need to work when it needs to travel trough 20 cm thick stone walls.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] _Gir_:
Agreed. It's pointless and no one should realistically expect a lock in a building.

Heck, my house has a metal roof...none of my devices gets a GPS lock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
You posted a screenshot suggesting it was taken outside, and and that it demonstrated working gps. It doesn't - that is the normal not really working state. The like that, but you won't get a fix if you're moving or telephone is any clutter.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
I'm really missing your point here. Yes, it is working outside, where it should. Inside it isn't, where it shouldn't. I haven't tested it in a car yet, and can't because it is back to the store for backlight bleeding. I'm hoping to get a new one but the stock shows it is expected 17-02!-2012, so perhaps I just get my money back and wait for another upcoming tablet.

I'm not denying the problems or something, but some just really getting tired of people who keep whining and whining their GPS isn't working while trying it only inside a building.. I mean why would you want it to work there? To guide you to your toilet?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ReaderLee:
Mine wouldn't work before and I'm now getting locking GPS with wifi turned off. The GPS test is seeing up to ten satellites and it's locking onto 6 to 8 of them. It says accurate to 45 feet. I'm sitting in my house with windows around but not right next to any. Odd thing is that it seems to work when in the dock, and but doesn't seem to work when not docked. I gave it about five minutes and it very, very briefly locked on then lost it right away. Put it back on the dock and in five minutes it was using 8 out of 10.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chamberc:
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My Streak 7, Motorola Razr, and 10 year old Dell Axim 5 all get locks with 8-9 sats inside my house.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Gunmetal_Soul:
Ive been whatching this thread and had a chance to check my primes gps on the road this morning. In my house gps is wonky, 2-4 sats and an occasional lock with wifi off. 6-8 sats with 2-3 locked wifi assisted. Driving into work I used gps check and got 9-11 sats and maintained a lock to 8 of them for the last 10 mins of my drive. My theory, some primes simply have bad radios. Im guessing the earliest production runs since it seems the earliest adopters have the most trouble. Got my prime from bb on jan. 4 for reference.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ilostmypistons:
Just for the heck of it I hit up GPSstatus in my family room

Heres what came up within 15 seconds.

I think some of the GPS issues are software and definitely fixable. sometimes when I turn it on the GPS symbol flashes and sometimes nothing at all and then in the rare case light up and lock on
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mikevipe:
ASUS aleady has screen shot installed, you just need to enable it:

settings-> asus custom settings-> enable screenshot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bex:
You guys are ridiculous trying to justify the GPS performance. ASUS themselves says its an OFFICIAL issue due to the RF attenuation, THERE ARE NO PERFECT PRIMES as a result! My iPhone4, HTC Aria and my Nexus S all grab a strong 37-40% SNR signal to 11-12 sats within seconds inside my home, the Prime cant get anything unless held to the window and then SNR is at best 22% on 4-5 sats. Why are you guys constantly posting that the damn thing works? IT DOESNT WORK PROPERLY and the WiFi range is also poor due to the same issue, if you dont believe it, check it versus your other devices in your home or in a hotel where WiFi range is maxed out.

These threads are pathetic at best...gotta be 16 year olds justifying their Christmas money getting blown on their Primes. Believe in God with as much faith as you do your Primes GPS and you will move mountains!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HuskerWebhead:
You caught us. Everyone has just be making up positive results as a prank. You're so clever.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Barff1984:
Do people expected to get a lock whilst indoors? I've had 5 different HTC devices and have never expected to get any kind if lock whilst in a building with Wi-Fi off , take it outside and it's a totally different story.

The poor GPS is by no means a reason I won't be getting a prime...it'll need a lot more faults to stop me getting one next month.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Sokonomi:
Mine doesn't even see a single satellite, let alone lock. I think mine really is a dud.

But im not even going to bother sending it in for "repairs" though,

even if they do manage to get it to the point where you guys currently are,

its still gonna be sub par and a Bluetooth GPS unit would still be the better choice.

No matter what odd wifi tweaks get conjured up, I wouldn't bet on the prime taking me places.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bex:
Glad you finally admitted it too!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] XXRay:
GPS Test Galaxy Note compared to Prime INDOOR

Just received my Prime 64G, German version, and tested the GPS. And even though it doesn't fix as many satellites as the Note, taking the Indoor situation and the Prime design in account it does the job.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bex:
Your stats are the best I've seen with a Prime on the forum, however, what happens during real world testing during navigation operation, does it keep the lock? Not wanting to start any debates here of who uses a tab for nav, but just wanting to see if these newer Primes have something different going on Asus slipped in under the rug so to speak.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kent c:
Happy for you. Mine only works if I'm sitting stationary outside. If I move too quickly (like in a car) it drops out. This is a real problem for me as I write software that uses GPS. My company bought 10 Primes as Christmas gifts because they were the latest greatest and they are almost useless to us. I'm hoping there is some kind of fix soon or they will all be returned.

Oh, and 2 of the 10 have video issues.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeptikal:
Everybody that thinks theirs is working should put their primes into airplane mode, cold boot it and turn on GPS test app. Film it and see how long it takes to lock any sat's from inside your house. Then if you get a few locks keep filming and get in your car and navigate. If it lets u nav I'd then say it is working as it was meant to. Please upload the video if you can do this...My guess is we all still have the same old GPS problem we always did. Mine actually got worse after ICS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dizzy33:
If you look at your screenshot you will see that all the reception levels are yellow, none are green, which means a bad reception. It means that you have good chances to loose the satellite signals when driving your car.

I never saw any screenshots from the Prime with green reception signals, and that's the problem.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] XXRay:
GPS Test drive

I took the Prime for a spin, I had around 15 satellites where in average 8-9 where used. I never reached a green SNR but I never lost the connection, the Sygic was doing fine and judging about updates when I took corners 5-10m accuracy was correct. Taking it out in the open field i still never got a green SNR.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mikroft:
To you guys testing GPS INDOORS. Stop complaining that it doesn't work. GPS isn't meant to be used indoors. I don't care if your 10 year old smartphone can do it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] icyfiree:
maybe there is some new satellites that's the reason for the gps suddenly working? i have noticed on my DHD that i get alot better reception lately, before i got an average accuracy of 10 meters and never gotten below that but now im getting alot better accuracy i have gotten down to as low as 1 meter accuracy.
[General Questions and Answers] bigapplepietart:
It is probably a noob question but while browsing through the settings/about, I stumbled on ''kernel''
[General Questions and Answers] umanko:
kernel is a layer(control) between hardware and software . It manages hardware resources and provide it to applications through its API . Without kernel applications can still run but there is a possibility of two apps using same memory space at same time hence corrupting each other . To avoid such possibilities we have kernel .
[General Questions and Answers] Theonew:
It is :p.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel.
[General Questions and Answers] yngwin:
Eh, no. The kernel is the heart of the operating system. Without a kernel, nothing runs.
[General Questions and Answers] mistermentality:
This is correct. Everything runs through the kernel, your phones hardware can only work because the kernel has drivers for it built in.

Without a kernel your phone would be a pretty looking brick with lights basically.

Dave
[Kindle Fire General] riguy156:
Which ICS rom and CM7 Rom are the most complete in terms of working. I tried searching and couldn't pinpoint which one as there are so many anyone could give me insight that be Great
[Kindle Fire General] Allen3697:
What I did first it install infinitybiff's from, which is the stock Amazon with android market and root access. First rom I ever flashed, good for beginners. I used it for like 12 hours. Then I flashed CM7. Didn't like it so I flashed bl1nkk's ICS rom. Currently it doesn't support video and audio, but other than that, its a great rom. Very smooth. I'm confident that a fix will be made soon.
[Kindle Fire General] icebuck:
What about installing the CM7 ROM and then theme it with ICS?
[Kindle Fire General] palf91:
Lipstick on a pig. Not saying that CM7 is ugly, just that it isn't the same.
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
cm7:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1390773

ics:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1411895
[Kindle Fire General] Allen3697:
I didn't even think about doing that, but I like the whole ICS experience better anyway.
[Kindle Fire General] DesDr0id:
ICS is pre-alpha, video and sound are not fully funtional, it is not recommended at its present stage for everyday use (though many certainly use it that way)

CM7 is stable, great for everyday use. It has some minor bugs, but all the hardware is functional (minus bluetooth and light sensor).
[Kindle Fire General] sladehawke:
I vote for cm7.... Turn your kindle into a tablet.

All you really need to do is enable the home button under tablet tweaks and switch the fake buttons to the right side if you are right handed. Install SwiftKey or some other keyboard.... The aosp keyboard is awful.
[Kindle Fire General] podspi:
What does CM7 do for us that the stock rom + root, market, and 3rd party launcher can't?

I think the thing that would really get me to move from stock is if somebody managed to get that BT module working.
[Kindle Fire General] DesDr0id:
Not much imho, however the user experience is more of a pure android. The big take away is that by running a non-amazon ROM, you no longer have to worry about a forced software update that will break root and wipe out twrp. Yes, there have been other posts about how to block those updates, however we wont know how effective those measures are until another software update (ie running an android software firewall) is pushed out. CM7 is tremendously customizable as well.
[Kindle Fire General] yee379:
non-ics isn't very tablet friendly imo. however, even though cm9 (alpha) is relatively stable (and i use it daily for things like rss, surfing etc); don't even bother if you care about sound and video.

having said that, given how easy it is to reflash, try both and see what you think.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timmyDean:
I need to root a Xoom FE tablet. Supposedly you can root it using a Factory style programming cable (for Motorola) which unlocks the bootloader. Has anyone tried this?

Earlier version, up to the latest OTA, could be rooted simply by exploiting the cmdclient ec_micswitch exploit that has been known for years. I even saw someone (called Evil??) trying to sell it to people. What a joke, I guess it takes all kinds.

Anyway, before I run out and get a Factory style programming cable (est $35), I'd like to know if it works.

Thanks,

TD
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nhshah7:
Hi guys,

I'm thinking of picking up an SD card for my prime when it comes in. Does anyone have any recommendations as to which class I should get?

I'm thinking 6 or 8 minimum, esp since I will likely end up watching movies (avi, mpg, mkv) off the card. Has anyone tried doing this yet or testing which class SD cards work best?

Gracias
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] iamhcg:
Transcend 16G class 10 works super fast. Love it. My only choice.

And it's not expensive in my region (TW).

I tried a class 4 on my old Advent Vega. When there was no comparion, class 4 seemed ok. But now after a class 10 card experience, I don't think I want to settle for anything less fast.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Godswrath:
Looks like Sandisk 32GB Class 4 is what a lot of people are recommending.

Source: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ciddy:
Just received the SanDisk 64 GB microSD Class 6. Getting 7.3-7.5 MByte/s write speeds.

Also have a Samsung 32 GB Class 10, getting 11-12 MByte/s writes.

Write speeds returned on transferring big files (>600 MB) only.

SanDisk comes exFAT formatted so you can put files >4GB on it (very handy for those big mkvs). Samsung comes FAT32, but keeps same high write speeds when formatted exFAT. 64 GB works well with the Prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beazie0885:
Any way to get rid of the SD card notification in the notifications? Been messing with it for a lil while and can't figure it out...

I have a lexar 32GB class 10...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nhshah7:
Probably not until custom roms :-\

Thanks for the replies guys, that tid bit about exfat is golden :-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pileot:
whats the max capacities / speeds on the microSD cardslot? no use getting something that i cant use :)

If anyone could let me know i would be thankfull
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beazie0885:
what app are you using to test the read /write speeds? I was using SD tools on my sgs2 but can't get it to work on my prime...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] curreyr:
CrystalDiskMark is real good for testing card speed (from a PC).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
After reading a HUGE thread here on XDA about all the classes and how it can vary depending on your need, I opted for a class 4. I was convinced I needed class 10, but after reading that entire huge thread I came to see that for my needs, class 4 was fine and perfect and class 10 of little actual value. So I got a very highly rated Transcend 32gb class 4 off Amazon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nhshah7:
do you use it for playing mkv's? that's what i would want it for mainly.
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
Hopefully someone can help me out. I've been looking for a background I use to have. It got deleted and I've searched and searched for it. I think its a iPhone wallpaper, but I think I got it using go launcher. Its blueish gray fabric wallpaper. If anyone has it or has any ideas I would appreciate it. Thanks.

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Tons of good wallpapers here:

http://www.freeza-inc.com/walls/
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
I'll take a look.

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] SketchyStunts:
Here is a iPhone wallpaper.

Sorry, couldn't help it. Cheers ;P
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
Ha! Awesome

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1221935 Check this thread out might be in there this guy has a lot of nice wallpapers maybe in there.
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
Wow, thanks, lots of nice ones on that thread

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
Still can't find the one I'm looking for...its driving me nuts

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
Bump...any help?

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
Its similar to this one

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rydah:
I'll post it later. I believe my iPad has it.

Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
[HTC EVO 3D] ForgetfulGuru:
Hi It's called ios fabric here's a link to where I found it www.nclud.com/sketchbook/ios-fabric-texture-tutorial/

Hope this helps you out.
[HTC EVO 3D] ForgetfulGuru:
Actually here's a link to the Google search I just did.

http://www.google.co.uk/m/search?q=...l=uk&source=mog&csll=&action=&ltoken=e64b709c

Some lovely looking wallpapers in it.
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
Thanks so much all of you. I kept searching but never came up with looking for ios fabric. Brainfart...lol. appreciate the links

We're comin from a pure power source.
[HTC EVO 3D] ForgetfulGuru:
No problem, it's what we're all here for. I stuck a couple up on my thread, last post of my Sig link.
[HTC EVO 3D] Rydah:
Heres an actual rip from ios
[HTC EVO 3D] metalfan78:
Thanks rydah, that one is perfect

We're comin from a pure power source.
[myTouch 4G General] olkcarcelims:
I have been trying to figure out if the MT4G rooted on CM7.1 would work on Iusacell in Mexico. I go to school there and if I go to the service center, they take so long so I was wondering if anyone knew instead of wasting a couple hours there. Their network information is on unlockonline dot com

Thanks! :)
[myTouch 4G General] Jack_R1:
If you want 3G - no, it won't.

Your carrier works on 850/1900 bands.

Next time, just check the bands of the phone you want and see if these are included.
[myTouch 4G General] DerpyWebber:
?

Actually, I'm on Iusacell MX as well, I'm using CM7 (7.0, I haven't had the chance to update yet), and my 3G worked fine as soon as I set the right APN settings (which I'd be happy to provide, if anyone wants them). The ROM (as far as I know) has nothing to do with the Radio, which IS band-specific. Just leave it on the radio it came with, and you should be fine.

EDIT: Oops, disregard the above... I misread and forgot what forum I was in. Jack is right: You won't be able to use 3G if your /phone/ doesn't support the bands, which in this case (MT4G), it doesn't. Most everything else should work, though.
[myTouch 4G General] estallings15:
Lesson for today:

Don't disagree with Jack_R1.

Lol ;)
[myTouch 4G General] DerpyWebber:
Yeah...

Hahaha, more like "Don't post blindly on threads you found while messing with the Search bar"... But disagreeing with him is probably a bad idea as well. :D