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[Android General] Alucard400:
From the way I notice the flagged list, Samsung phones don't seem to be safe. I am guessing most of them are flagged because Samsung gives out their IMEI's to AT&T with a few that slip through for some reason. HTC phones seem to be okay if you got a Canadian version, with a small few that are flagged. T mobile HTC phones don't seem safe, or any smartphone by T mobile because of the attempted merger. I don't know how the LG phones would be, not a lot of people on here don't seem to own LG phones. Proxy/API settings can possibly make the difference in showing to AT&T what OS is used. I have not tried to purchase apps through my smartphone through medianet to test out if googleplay shows it to AT&T as a smartphone. Those Chinese branded phones look like they're really undetected, so I kind of see all the phones are detected in different ways now.

1. Attempted merger with T mobile and AT&T has allowed AT&T to gain T mobile's EMEI database,not just stolen phones.

2. Nexus phones are not safe, most if not all are flagged. If not, then they are detected eventually.

3. A lot of Samsung phones seem to get detected, possibly the company giving out it's EMEI database to AT&T.

4. Chinese branded or some European phones get under the radar.

feel free to add or collect all speculations into this list. just so we all have it together to see how to get around the sweeps.
[Android General] azncber:
Canadian HTC phones are still flagged. They are essentially T-Mobile phones as the Canadian companies are tmobile companies. Canadian HTC One S was flagged.
[Android General] Alucard400:
I don't think it's correct to say Canadian companies are T mobile companies. There are people here who own Canadian carrier provided cell phones and bypass medianet. I am one of them. In fact, the phone I use undetected is also provided in T mobile. but it's not T mobile branded on the digitizer
[Android General] bedwa:
Pretty spot on IMO. Add Japanese and Latin American phones of some manufacturers and I would say that those are the majority of the safe ones.....
[Android General] aneftp:
So Nokia E72, Nokia N95/97 are safe? I know ATT detects Unlocked Nokia E71 since they sold the E71.

I want to carry 2 phones in case my main smartphone battery dies and I have backup phone for the day.

I don't intend to have data on the Nokia phone.
[Android General] azncber:
Sorry I meant to say that most Canadian phones are essentially T-Mobile Phones with no logo.
[Android General] ErieTrack:
Well I think they might be getting sneaky because my Nokia N8 just got

popped as a smart phone. I'm going to change my plan back and try it

one more time. I'll let ya guys know what happens. :(
[Android General] sucsss:
even the Nokias now? that's unexpected.
[Android General] ErieTrack:
I called and got the plan switched back but said they could only give me a $15 a month unlimited plan.

I had to get online and change it back to the $10 plan myself. Anyway we'll see how long it goes this

time. All the phones on my account got swept today. They found the N8 but not my nokia 701. I

recently had to replace my sim card so hopefully this didn't screw me. Within 2 hours of putting my

sim card in my lumia 800, it was flagged and got the dreaded text message. I have a friend that works

at att, I'm gonna stop by and pick his brain a bit and try to find out if my account is being red flagged

for some reason.
[Android General] sucsss:
2 hours? that's fast. I thought it was at least a day.
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
On GoPhone (prepaid) MEdia Net, they flag you immediately.

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[Android General] lilraver018:
May i get a copy of the list, looking to do away with my samsung exhibit 2 to something with more power.
[Android General] killme2:
The list needs to be updated. The Verizon iPhone 5 is reported as flagged now. The Note 2 International is flagged. I suggest adding to the list the date when it was last updated.
[Android General] vinvam:
Yeah, I've had that happen to me. I think some reps just don't know about the $10 plan if you have unlimited messaging.

Prepaid users should get switched almost immediately. On postpaid I used to be able to get by till the end of the billing period but most recently I got switched the same day. :(
[Android General] lovem:
Glad I just didn't drop some major green on the vzn ifone.
[Android General] azncber:
Yeah... I PMed Mr.Mischief a while ago about it and he hasn't changed it. He's the only 1 that can change it so yeah.
[Android General] paperWastage:
? get a backup battery or external charger.... better than carrying 2 phones

i have this one - it's small and round, fits in my jacket pocket, has a flashlight, charges my phone at least 50%

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0084Y47SK/
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I have the one report of the Verizon iPhone 5 being flagged. I'd like to wait until someone else confirms it before I mark it as flagged.

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[Android General] iolinux333:
Oh dear, what a huge thread. I've read to much of it, my head hurts! I respectfully request a copy of the forbidden and most sinful list! TIA :) :) :)
[Android General] azncber:
Seems like you have at least 2.
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
That isn't a report though, just someone mentioning that they saw one person post it that theirs was flagged.

I'm not doubting the report, I just like to see more than one before I mark it as flagged.

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[Android General] azncber:
Is yours still working? Or are you not using the iPhone5 anymore?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I switched from a MEdia Net plan a few months ago, but the last phone I used was a Verizon iPhone 5.

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[Android General] jerryfreak:
nokia e7-00 got flagged about a month ago.

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anyone wanna pm me recs for what modern androids are known working?(say galaxy Siii specs or better), 3G/HSDPA of course (i havent been around in awhile but think 4g on medianet is still a no-go?
[Android General] Droiiiiiiiiid:
Anybody hear about the Nokia Lumia 521 being flagged? Its a T-Mobile branded Windows Phone 8 device being sold for $150 off contract unlocked. Apparently its been flying off the shelves so I wouldnt be surprised if it gets cracked down on relatively fast.
[Android General] shengjinzhao:
Wow, I was considering getting a Optimus L9, now all Tmobile phones won't work anymore? I guess I really had to get an international one on eBay now, don't I?

Can someone send me a copy of the list plz~~~ Whoever created this is doing us a big favor.
[Android General] sna:
Black i9100

My black i9100 just got flagged. Device still unknown but plan got changed to the $30 3gb data. now what to do? grab an old phone, call, and switch it back? the only old one I got now is a HTC Touch HD. Is that still undetected? Does AT&T even let you switch back?
[Android General] Alucard400:
AT this point, it probably isn't worth the hassle for me to upgrade the phone. I will just upgrade my Nexus 7 when the new one comes I use it way more often than my phone since it has a longer battery life. While my phone stays in my pocket as my moving router. With that said, I am glad someone made this list and people contributed so much to information. I picked my current phone off this list and later upgraded to a t mobile phone then downgraded back when they started flagging t mobile phones. I know most do not want to lug around a tablet or carry more than one device. If I decide to keep my phone for another 2 or 3 years, I may run into the problem of AT&T getting rid of their 3G network. I kind of don't see it happening with the dumbphones and senior citizens using simplified phones without a data plan.

If I were to pick a phone RIGHT NOW, I would buy a phone off some other country, Europe or China. maybe canadian. Definitely do not get a Samsung phone. Motorola and possibly HTC may be good bets. It would be hard to plunk down a lot of money on a phone and then find out AT&T will flag it the moment you use it here in the US.
[Android General] kaijura:
Yes, you either need to call or you can use the chat assistance thru OLAM.

You will need to give them a IMEI before they will take you off the plan. So either get it from a dumbphone or some phone that you know that is not flagged. When they do the sweeps, your IMEI will change to the phone that your SIM is being used in.

Seems like the touch HD was mostly made for european or asian markets, since the umts and hspa is on the 900/2100 band. Hopefully there was no reason for AT&T to add it to their database since it'd get 2g only.

sucks that your black i9100 got flagged. That's the second or third i9100/i9100m I've read in here that got flagged. For some unknown reason, mine is still working without issues.
[Android General] sieepiestangel:
Mine just got flagged too, I've been using it since October of 2011. I'm about to go buy a gophone so I can call them to give the IMEI. That should work, right?
[Android General] sieepiestangel:
So I called in managed to have them revert my plan back to a dumbphone plan, with the help the prepaid samsung gophone. How long should I wait before I put my sim back into the i9100?
[Android General] kaijura:
yeah, any phone is fine. even if you google up and find some random dumbphone IMEI on google search it works too. They just want it so they can decide if it's still a flagged smartphone when they input it in the system so they can tell you whether or not they can put you on the plan. (that's what I'm guessing the reason why they want the IMEI)

I suspect you are fine the moment you actually have your plan changed in OLAM. Personally I'd wait until the device no longer shows up as recognized in OLAM before putting the SIM in. I think it takes a few days at most to kick in.
[Android General] sieepiestangel:
I was under the impression that they can determine your IMEI at any time by looking at your account? So are you saying that the CSR doesn't have access to our IMEI, hence, we can give them a random one without having our sim in a dumbphone and turned on? That's what I'm doing, at the present moment, my OLAM shows the $30 dollar smartphone data plan. I was told that within a day, it will return to the $10 dumbphone plan, at which time, I'll put my sim back into the i9100 and cross my fingers. A side note, even after I got the dreaded text that I had been moved to the smartphone data plan, my OLAM still showed a generic flip-phone picture instead of a smartphone one, hopefully that's a good sign that this was all a fluke.
[Android General] sna:
What did you say to the CSR to get it changed back to dumbphone plan? What did they ask for besides imei?
[Android General] sieepiestangel:
I rather not say, as I'm not sure if ATT reps are reading this thread, and catching on. But yes, have a IMEI ready, just incase. PM me if you want more details. As of right now, I am using my i9100 with the Non-smartphone (with Family Messaging) Data plan. So far, no new text about upgrading me back to the smartphone data plan, hopefully this will last me another 2 years. But I marked on my calendar the date that I got the text message that switched me over, I figure, to be safe, I'll just use a dumb phone for that day during each month.
[Android General] vinvam:
I wonder if the international HTC One would work? It seems like the international One X still works, right?
[Android General] dtrinh4000:
hmm, just got flagged today, called 611 but they weren't able to switch me back to my non-smart phone plan. i gave them the imei of my dumb phone sony ericsson c905a but said that they still cant switch me back to the medianet plan or give me a data exclusion. any tips?
[Android General] sieepiestangel:
It's a lie, they can switch you back, they did with me. However, our situations maybe different. I signed up with ATT back in 2005-2006. Since then, I have not renewed my contract with them and have not upgraded my phones. As far as they know, I'm still using the two Razrs and a Sony Ericisson W550/600 that I got at the time.
[Android General] lovem:
Looks like At** did a different kind of major sweep yesterday afternoon & got a lot of samsungs/previously undetectable devices, other lines using other models didn't get picked up. Faced with the same issue when black i9100 got decked with the dreaded message. BUMMER!
[Android General] tylerb1800:
My black i9100 got flagged as well. Can anyone pm me generally what I need to say to att? I have an unlocked nokia e71. Can I put my sim card in that, call, and give them that imei number or do I need to go pick up a cheap go phone?

Thanks

TB
[Android General] sna:
Decided not to risk it with the Touch HD. The model is listed under their trade in program. So a reason they might be so generous with the trade-in program is to gather more info what smartphone models are out there.
[Android General] theman22:
For what it is worth, my black i9100 was not picked up. I guess I'm lucky!
[Android General] kaijura:
my i9100m was not picked up. If the i9100 crew wants to PM and compare our TACs (first 8 set of IMEI digits), maybe we can see if there's a pattern between us. Perhaps AT&T added a certain group.

Either put the sim in the new phone you want to activate and call or use their online service chat. You don't need to have the SIM in the phone while giving them the IMEI - atleast that's how it worked for me a few times.

I just say I'm done borrowing my friend's smartphone and want to switch back to my old phone. I don't even name any models. Then I give them the IMEI.

I think they can determine your IMEI anytime your sim is in the device. The CSR just wants it to verify while they reset your plan. You can give them an IMEI without your sim currently in any device.
[Android General] yw2012:
Anyone know if Verizon iphone 5 still works on medianet? I have read mix report so far. Thanks.
[Android General] tylerb1800:
Just got off the olam chat with att to swap back my internet. No issues swapping it back but he said that my phone showed up as a samsung on his end. He didn't give me specifics so I am not sure if they could recognize it as i9100 or not. Now I am wondering if I can put my sim card back in my i9100.

Has anyone be flagged again after swapping their sim card back?
[Android General] Alucard400:
For the people who want to compare their i9100s. U may want to IM instead of posting here with the others... Give your location/region/city. When your account was created. What type of voice plan you have.prepaid. etc. What type of sim you are using. Are u using a custom OS?apn settings? Did you provide the imei number to an AT&T Rep for the i9100 or other dumbphone?
[Android General] sna:
PMed you my i9100 info
[Android General] BGRed:
The Verizon Iphone 5 definitely will be detected. It shows up as the iphone 5 in your account, not on the main screen but when you click on "details"
[Android General] DaNg13:
I had international note 1 and get flagged many times. I think they are smart enough to filter the package that u send is smartphone and flag it.
[Android General] sucsss:
thanks for the help, but you're replying to a post that's more than a year old.
[Android General] james11417:
So when I have medianet they scan me once a month. When I totally blocked data on my i9300, they're not detecting me. Havent been scanned for a month and a half for now
[Android General] killme2:
I used my iPhone 4S for over 2 months without a data plan. Once I used the cellular data I got a message within an hour that a data plan would be added. It seems like they only flag you when you actually use data.
[Android General] Endlessknight:
Got a slightly interesting data point to share.

My line got flagged a few months ago and ever since I get my data plan changed at the start of a new billing cycle and I would have to put my sim in a dumb phone and call and change it back. This month I decided to get proactive and put my sim in the dumbphone the night before the change. But low and behold I still woke up to a txt on the dumbphone telling me I was using a smartphone and my data plan had me change.

I called in and the rep I spoke to had no explanation for the change, he confirmed that my sims was in the dumbphone when the change occurred. He gladly changed my plan back and gave my a $25 credit for my troubles.

I'm starting to think that once a line is flagged it remains flagged no matter what.
[Android General] sieepiestangel:
Interesting. I got the text that flagged my phone about a week after the start of my new billing. Are you saying you get one the following day everytime?
[Android General] Endlessknight:
I always get it the first day of my billing cycle.
[Android General] The_Newtype:
In case anyone is curious, I've been running an N7000 on Media Net since August without issue.
[Android General] gtmaster303:
These are the kinds of speeds I'm getting at various times of the day, in different locations.

is it supposed to be faster than this?

Sent from my Galaxy S Relay
[Android General] yangar:
That's the non-LTE AT&T right?
[Android General] sheik124:
Does anyone know where old SIM cards can be picked up?

If I'm not mistaken, my SIM card is from Summer of 2009. The only difference between myself and friends who got changed to smartphone plans, sometimes using the same device as I was, was the SIM card. Mine is one of the ancient ones with a blue at&t logo and a white strip running across the top for the SIM#
[Android General] bedwa:
Should be able to find one on eBay. Make sure you ask the seller if the 9th and 10th digits are 21 or over and under 24.

Speaking of.....

SIM Card primer.

AT&T SIM cards follow this format.

8901 410x yyxx xxxx xxxx

The 9th and 10th digits portrayed by Ys above are your generation of SIM card. Any 20 or below is just a GSM SIM, No 3G. 21-23 is a 3G SIM. 24 and above is LTE/HSPA+ compatible. So, if you don't mind slower speeds, yes, look for a 21-23 SIM. It should work fine.

Edit: FYI, this is using my knowledge as a former CSR but is dated by about a year. Since no new generations of networks have arreived, there shouldn't be any reason for this info to be outdated.
[Android General] sheik124:
I'm using a 23 SIM right now. Do the newer SIMs support reporting or provisioning some other kind of info that's getting people caught? I'm not really going to complain about being capped at 7mbps, it is after all only $10/mo.

I have a few 25 SIMs inactivated but I don't want to test this theory lol.
[Android General] bedwa:
I think that it helps give more information through the proxy. Through internet OR MMS. (same proxy)

Thus the first thing I do is to use Titanium Backup with Root Explorer and SQLite Editor and modify my apns to remove all proxy info. Does require root, but I've had a few HTC Dr ices like the Rezound that get tagged with the proxy and doesn't without it.

FYI, I use Google Voice for my SMS.

Edit: I am using a newer SIM in my One S that I trimmed to a micro SIM myself.
[Android General] james11417:
My SIM is an old cingular sim and the yy is 10 and I'm pretty sure I get H+ speeds on it. I also get flagged once a month on a i9300 so I'm pretty sure sims have nothing to do with getting flagged.
[Android General] sheik124:
I'm curious if those getting flagged are currently under contract or not. Ie. Did you purchase an at&t smartphone that requires a data plan and then attempt removing it? My last upgrade was in 2008, well before they changed the rules on data, and that was when I added mediaNET, legitimately, to my at&t Fuze. I used a launch day 850 MHz Nexus One after that, right when my contract ended, for nearly two years, undetected. I was using a Galaxy Nexus when they got swept, as well as a T-Mobile HTC One S; neither was caught.

I used one of the Lumia 800s that were given out for free for many months, as soon as I gave it to my sister, who is on the same plan and was using a dumb phone with no data, she got flagged the next cycle. Her line had a remaining term on an iPhone,which requires data when purchased.

Food for thought. I think they're more vigilant about accounts that "owe them" for data due to a subsidized smartphone purchase. The days of "buy the phone with the best resale value and go unlocked/mediaNET" might be over.
[Android General] The_Newtype:
That is correct.
[Android General] gtmaster303:
Check out my speeds with a 25 sim a few posts back

Don't know if it's quick enough, but it's not detected yet. Been in use for a week now
[Android General] sheik124:
I think our speeds are limited by the wap.Cingular apn to 7.2 mbps HSPA. I usually get 6.5-7 mbps but sometimes during high traffic times they throttle the upload speeds.

I switched from my One S back to WP because of the fast dormancy bug in JB with the mediaNET APN
[Android General] yangar:
They can't even detect their own phones?! Oh AT&T.
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
Whoever told you that is completely incorrect. AT&T always detects its own phones.

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[Android General] The_Newtype:
I have the international version (N7000), while they have their own customized variant. Some people have been flag, but I have not. I was simply sharing my experience.

It's getting harder and harder to remain on MediaNet -- my choice of new devices is growing more and more slim as the months move on.
[Android General] yangar:
AT&T has always detected their own phones, but it seems like Newtype has lucked out with an international version. Usually those are flagged too.
[Android General] Elite GunnerX:
Does anyone know if the international HTC one would be flagged for any reason? ive been running a Samsung GS3 i9300 for the last 6 months and have been fine...

Also what about the US unlocked HTC one? The one sold here for $575. http://www0-shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
[Android General] yw2012:
Mine i9300 get flagged once a month. You got lucky?
[Android General] Mr.Mischief:
I haven't seen any reports of the international One X being flagged.

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[Android General] cheerup38:
I've had an VZ iPhone 5 on the account about a month after launch and have not had any issues....knock on wood.....would being a premier account make any difference?
[Android General] azncber:
Wow that's amazing! Can you send me your APN settings? Do you have data?
[Android General] zzappp:
Another phone..

Well, this is funny. You know most of the phones from the chinese market are either extremely crappy, not worth the money, or they don't have all the at&t bands for 3g. But take a look at this one. I suspect it should work on gophone 50/month for unlimited everything. Anyone think otherwise? Since its so affordable I think I'll probably go for it unless someone thinks it won't work with unlimited.

ebay.com /itm/BLU-Dash-4-0-D270a-Unlocked-GSM-Android-ICS-Phone-3G-US-Black-AT-T-Tmobile-/321130086055?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4ac4d83ea7[/url]
[Android General] unmesh59:
Notwithstanding its inclusion in the OP, the T-Mobile branded Samsung Exhibit 4G SGH-T679 (previously called Exhibit II) is not ID'ed by AT&T. Two of the lines in our family plan use these phones.
[Android General] ErieTrack:
PM me if anyone knows of any quad core phones that are still working :fingers-crossed:

Thanks!
[Android General] chrism.brunner:
Pm sent.....
[Android General] faraband:
Does the shared list get updated at all? I am looking for something new, better, maybe an S3 or S4 variant from canada or something, and wondering if any phones are being added to the list...?

Thanks.
[Android General] ErieTrack:
I think there's a dual core version on the S3 still working.

Maybe the S4 GTi-9500 octa-core?

But I don't think anyone has tried it yet cuz of how expensive it is.