yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Droid X2] Silverado8405:
Device: Milestone x2

ROM: stock from vendor (Cellcom Wisconsin)

Android Version: 2.3.6, kernel, 2.6.32.9-00011-gbc368b9, build: 45.0.43, sys version: 45.0.43.MB867.ACG.en.us

Audio Software: WinAMP, PlayerPro w/ playerpro DSP app, stock player

Init Scripts and personal mods: none

Sound Output: Stock Speaker, Ear Plugs

Internal storage

Symptom: Stuttering playback under little to no load. Opening browser, words with friends, settings will all cause playback disruption. Some times disruption when locked, usually at auto end timeout. Repeatable every time. Did not include SD card as it does it when stored internally as well.
[Motorola Droid X2] Peperm1nt:
Post init scripts and ROM

Tapin' the Talk on the xSquared
[Motorola Droid X2] truk:
Ha, exact same problem , phone stats and observations here. I was just assigned one of these for a work phone, so yeah...brand new out-of-the-box.

My co-worker has not seen stuttering issues (had his for about a month), but it does randomly play music - apparently whatever player was active last. Stock, PowerAMP, Winamp, Pandora, Google Music.

How can a phone with a dual-core 1GHz CPU and more RAM than my first 3 MP3 players had in total STORAGE space fail so hard at something so basic?
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
Hello, Moto.
[Motorola Droid X2] Silverado8405:
I don't have any additional init scripts running than what comes from stock. I should add that I'm not rooted on this phone either.

If you can point me in the right direction to find the ROM name I'll be glad to post it. I haven't changed anything from stock and I don't know what the name of the stock ROM is.
[Motorola Droid X2] Peperm1nt:
@Silverado .. Try this.. Play a song>Press HOME Button>Goto settings>Applications>Running Services

In the list, find out how much free RAM you have available, if the music doesn't stutter at all, please tell me what that value is. Once the music is stuttering, Force Close apps that you don't need to be running(Facebook, Twitter, TapaTalk, etc.), everything that is not pertaining to the music player. If/when the music stops stuttering, please note the available RAM(I think its the number on the Bottom-Right). Then post your results.

NOTE:

If any user having stuttering issues using the Google Music app or WinAMP(These are the only players I have used to confirm working on my device to the full extent), go to the running services while playing a song. Close EVERYTHING you see besides the Music Player until music either stops or stops stuttering. The goal I want you to try and do is close EVERYTHING except the music essential running services and see if the stuttering persists.

Also, try this for me. Get the FREE app by latedroid called SeePU. This will load a small notification on the status bar that will display your CPU charge(I'm sure there are others, but this will probably be the best in this test). What I need you to do is get the music to stutter with that notification loaded. See what the charge is and note what it states with NO playback, Music Playback w/o stuttering, & Music Playback with stuttering. You will see a color, and make note of what the color stays at within the test. Allow at least 10-20 second to pass without browsing or moving the screen and see what the 'average' color is, also, note whether it bounces back and forth to other colors constantly. Also, do this while you are in Airplane Mode.

If this is confusing, let me know, I'll edit the post.

Again, I'm going to try my best to help. But this appears as though it may be a Random Batch of phones distributed that are effected with this bug. For those having issues with playback, how bad is the stuttering exactly? Is it like a "skip" on a CD when it just "lags" on one area of the song? or is it a faint "skip" like every now and then. Also, is your devices staying on longer than 24 hours without reboots?
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
My experience has been that the skipping isn't like a CD skipping per say

More like when I have music Going and open another app ((whether a large or small app doesn't matter)) the music just drops out real quick. Like the.playback will stop/start/stop/start. For one to three seconds. I would.compare it too how on original PlayStation when playing jet moto and a lot was going on it would get choppy and laggy.

Its like its trying to push the CPU do more than it can.handle. but it happens even with opening small apps and less intense application like messages, gmail, twitter, etc...

it is MUCH better than it used to be on froyo and 2.3.3...It used to go berserk skipping just from me typing ...even if I was typing slow...

I have managed to almost completely eliminate these skips/stutters by using v6supercharger on eclipse 2.03...adw launcher...settings >display >animation OFF...and some system apps I don't use deleted.

my average free ram stays between 180-230mb...

I have gotten to the.point where music skips happen randomly when they DO happen...its never just one thing that seem to set it off.

I also reboot every time I take off charger.

Sorry...I don't know if what I'm saying is helping or giving ideas or if I'm just rambling lol

One thing I've noticed that usually ALWAYS causes skips((about 75% of time)) is going to manage apps or running services. Which I could understand it causing skips or stutters due to it being a "CPU intensive process" I guess....

Edit..

I also use poweramp paid

I store music on internal (now)

And I don't.change the buffer rate in.poweramp(I've found that to cause more skips)

I DO raise audio thread priority to HIGHEST in poweramp settings.

If there is anything else I can post to help out or add info to plead ask.

Sorry I didn't follow the form...kinda did this on the fly while walking home..((listening to music...on phone browser...no skips yet))

Edit

DAMN!! jinxed myself lol

I was typing in Google talk, and it did a "machine gun" skip....like it was a audio tape that got stock for a second and fixed itself...argh...lol
[Motorola Droid X2] Silverado8405:
I hope this doesn't get too confusing.

I can run at 106 mb free to 52 mb free without skips, provided I'm not doing anything. It can skip at either of those settings and anywhere in between depending on what I've opened or am doing.

If I'm just sitting in the "Running Services" section of settings it will not skip. If I refresh the Running Services (exit and go back in and reload the app list) I have a 50% chance of it skipping.

I have a 90% chance of it skipping if I hit the power button to lock the phone, 10% chance if I let the screen timeout. Sometimes it stutters when idling but I have a feeling that may be related to app timeout or background syncing as it's not very consistent nor does it happen every time. I had it sitting on my desk for 2 hours today locked, idling playing music and it was fine but I'm having issues at home with it idling tonight. (I think it knows I'm talking bad about it and is misbehaving)

As far as processor usage with SeePU it has a random chance of skipping anywhere between the 2nd of 3 green indicator levels all the way up to red. It can sustain itself at yellow and not skip but jump to the 2nd green level and stutter like crazy. I have not been able to get a consistent level of where it will skip 100% of the time. I've been at this pretty much all day trying to get something consistent and haven't been able to.

To get an idea of what the stutter sounds like think back to the days of early high speed/late dial up. You're on a dial up connection and trying to load a music video and the internet can barely keep up so it gets the intermittent starts/stops. Another analogy would be a badly scratched section in a record, or getting to the edge of a radio stations signal range where it cuts out and comes right back in.

It doesn't seem to relate to internet usage either as I can browse on the web for 10-15 minutes and then out of nowhere it will stutter a few times.

I tried WinAmp Pro to start out with and had issues regardless of how much memory I freed up on the phone. I've since switched to PlayerPro with the music cache set to "Huge" and it has seemed to help somewhat over WinAmp but still having the issue occur.

I hope this helps, if you need anything else I try and check back once a day and I'm willing to try anything within reason.
[Motorola Droid X2] Peperm1nt:
Thanks for the information.

Seems like the system is refreshing when an app is applied or stopped. With that the CPU stops and refreshes. That's the skip. Idk why it's not on mine..like ever unless heavy use.

Tapin' the Talk on the xSquared
[Motorola Droid X2] Silverado8405:
Hummm, This morning I rebooted and was able to heavy use it without any issues, 2 hours later it was back to the same thing, 142 mb free. Do you think it's hardware issue or more of a software issue? I ask this as I've seen on other forums where people have had the same problem, did a factory reset and reloaded everything and had zero problems after that.

If I had/knew more about the *.sbf file I would feel comfortable trying a different rom on it but since I'm not on a major carrier I don't really know how to proceed. If I was on Verizon (where there's more *.sbf files than you can shake a stick at) I'd already be running something different.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Yea if I were u I would stay away from flashing a Verizon sbf file onto your milestone.

(Might be worth a shot to ask Motorola for some sbf love for the milestone ...never know what might happen...just don't hold ya breath ;))
[Motorola Droid X2] Peperm1nt:
Yeh, this is why I choose Verizon over the local. Hopefully ask works out there.

As for audio, I think this is going to be software and not hardware. still looking, but no luck.

Tapin' the Talk on the xSquared
[Motorola Droid X2] truk:
I caved and did a factory reset. I was planning on sending it back to Cellcom to try something else and figured question #1 would be whether I did a factory reset or not, but in doing so, I think I stumbled upon an answer for skipping while idle, even when the screen is off.

One of the first things it asked after the reset was whether I wanted to help Captain Planet save the glaciers by continuing to use Maximum Battery Saver mode or nuke the planet with Performance mode. Looking at the options, it appears that MBS mode forces the phone to aggressively monitor things like wifi and 3G radio and shut them off at every opportunity. I think it came out of the box with that enabled, as this time I chose Performance mode and even after loading everything back to where it was, it played for several hours skip-free last night. To find those settings, go into the Settings menu, then Battery & data manager, then Battery mode.

Before the wipe, I did try out SeePU. I think the overall problem with skipping goes back to how poorly this phone handles system resource scaling. Within 20 seconds, I saw a whole rainbow of color options. Even at idle, in airplane mode, with all running processes beyond music stopped, it's constantly switching from nearly inactive w/ a sliver of green to almost full yellow and back again. After the wipe, SeePU seems a lot more calm at idle, so I think a lot of that activity was the power management frantically trying to commit radio genocide at every opportunity. I am still seeing skipping when running anything more intensive than the web browser or email, but I think that is common across the whole X2 community.

TL;DR - Wipe your phone ;-)
[Motorola Droid X2] Jubomime:
Hell my music skips and stutters just scrolling through artists..
[Motorola Droid X2] Silverado8405:
@truk

The battery mode fixed the stutter problem when the screen is off, thanks for that tip. Know I know why every time I picked my phone up the 3G or Wifi was off and I had to wait for it to reconnect.

I'll try Motorola for an sbf. Sucks because my wife and I both got phones when Cellcom was really the only option around us. Since then Verizon bought out Alltel and started moving in. If we both hadn't had our numbers for forever I'd gladly switch over to Verizon. But then again we'd both probably be tempted to get iPhones (don't kill me :-))
[Motorola Droid X2] truk:
Verizon can port numbers over, though Cellcom does release their numbers through a manual process and it might take a day or two for the change to happen.

And hey, no harm in wanting something that just works. If it weren't for my fantastic Evo3D, between the complete failure of a device that was the Samsung Moment that got me signed up for XDA back in 2010, a woefully underpowered LG Optimus S and now this X2 from work, I'd have absolutely zero faith in Android as a consumer platform.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
okay

been messing around

edited the commented out lines in speedy main regarding I/O scheduler to USE deadline....and I haven't heard a music skip since

been listening to a lot of music since doing this hours ago....along with doing things that would usually cause skips....I only used that portion of speedymain tho....

edit

okay screw this...every time I post I haven't had a skip for a while it jumps lol

o well

back to drawing board

it seems to have helped a lot tho.
[Motorola Droid X2] Silverado8405:
Cellcom had me do a factory reset on my phone today. It got better but still occurring. Now to see if the reset fixed the random reboot problem I was having, which is a whole 'nother story. I'm wondering if I got a black sheep phone.....
[Motorola Droid X2] Peperm1nt:
OP has been updated.
[Motorola Droid X2] Peperm1nt:
Ash, confirm free RAM and CPU charges please. It is "fixed" for a while, but then starts back? When it starts back, post results please.
[Motorola Droid X2] Silverado8405:
It will be some time before I can post any new results. My phone basically went into freak out mode the day after the reset making it very unusable. It has been sent out for repair which could take up to 6 to 8 weeks. Hopefully I don't need to post anything other than clear sailing when it comes back.....
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
Gotcha

I flashed a new ROM last night so I will see how music is on this version.

Then I will do my tweaks and tests and let ya know my results....

Should have some results for ya around 6 pm tonight...

I have been messing around with KAK from zippy as well....just haven't been brave enough to use the I/O tweaks on it since it bootloop me in the past...(I am about to restore a nandroid tho if it bootloops me tho...so I dunno why I keep procrastinating lol....)
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
UPDATE UPDATE :)

on a recent tip from nitro regarding performance

If running eclipse, or any script that had the line to disable logger to save memory/boost performance, you might want to delete that line (rm dev/log/main)

Since deleting this line from 99 tweaks in init.d I haven't heard a single skip or stutter

I am also using v6supercharger update 9 rc5.2 option 7 &20 along with kickass kernel 3.4 with I/O tweaks (makes scheduler use deadline)

On 2.3.5 kernel build 412, eclipse 2.04
[Motorola Droid X2] Peperm1nt:
Makes since to delete logger script, otherwise it will continually run in bg. thanks ash. I'll add that in OP.

Tapin' the Talk on the xSquared
[Motorola Droid X2] Silverado8405:
Got mine back from Cellcom over the weekend. Software flash to the phone. Problem still exists. Reboot problem cured however. I'm starting to wonder if this isn't faulty hardware over faulty software. The loaner phone I had was the non-verizon Droid X and I could install programs while listening to music without a glitch but I can't open dolphin browser while listening to music with mine.
[Motorola Droid X2] ashclepdia:
The Verizon x2 is sameon mostly

At least for me

I do still get a slight stutter when installing new apps or uninstalling.

or when opening manage applications ALL column.

I kinda expect it to skip at those points tho(its gonna be weird when I get a different phone one day that doesn't do this lol)

After all my tweaking I have been able to extremely reduce my skipping music problem to this point. So if urs really only skips at those times, consider urself lucky :p

mine definitely used to skip from doing something as light as writing a text message if I typed to fast! I couldn't believe my ears when that happened...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dahlinc:
http://nvonews.com/2012/01/11/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumors-it-may-come-with-12-mp-camera/

probably a repost but the specs on this phone are amazing!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ajonesma:
somewhat a repost, I posted the latest rumors about the S3 on Android Authority not to long ago:

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-specs-40180/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bbedward:
Rumors lol. Remember the g. nexus rumors? Pretty far fetched from what the actual thing was.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ajonesma:
Yeah the entire name was wrong. Remember the Samsung Nexus Prime? I actually liked the name better.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RainMotorsports:
About the only thing i saw skimming that wouldn't make it for sure is the screen.

Doubling the ram isnt crazy at all. 12MP while not even desirable due to image noise is pretty low considering the HTC Titan II and others are sporting 16MP sensors. 2 Ghz A9 dual core is available pushing it a little but hey.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
12 megapixels actually can be pretty good. It isnt all about megapixels. My wife has a 500 dollar Canon that is only 14. I am pretty sure our 8 megapixel is better than a lot of phones.

On my Epic mobile phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] colorado_al:
I think that is the Sprint LTE phone to get. My SGS2E4GT will last me until there is LTE in my area. By then the GNex will be old news. SGS3 will be my upgrade.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yang704:
I hated 3D. I got an EVO 3D before and is not good watching a full movie. It hurts your eye. Why not change the screen size to match the galaxy note.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] erik077:
Rumors or not that image is awesome..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Itchiee:
Go a little stronger on the radios this time Samsung... kthx.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Alex1x:
Reality S3 probably:

1.5 Quadcore - 12MP Camera - 16/32GB - 2GB Ram

Wishful S3:

2.5GB Quadcore - 16MP camera - 32/64GB - 2/3GB Ram

What will make me say WOW is if I could replace my laptop and be able to handle medium to light heavy processing power of a laptop (probably s4)... Until then it's business as usual.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
If that's true, I'm starting to save right now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HotInEER:
Those specs are nice, but they better make sure the radios they user are to of the line with no GPS issues or loss of signal problems and slow 3g.

Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch on XDA Premium!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] squshy 7:
We have to remember we're dealing with a phone manufacturer AND processor maker here. It all depends on which route Samsung decides to go with their processors...the Nvidia route, and racing to add more cores; or the qualcomm route, and trying to improve and refine their dual cores. Both ways offer benefits.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ajonesma:
I'd like to add a 2,000mAh+ battery to those specs. Can never have a big enough battery right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] EvoSideHustlAZ:
I'm getting it.I came from HTC,had evo 4g,evo3d,I thought I loved those phones but now I fell for E4gT and will get 3 too
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Definitely my next upgrade.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I will see what Sammy has in store for us tomorrow ....Vegas is getting close now!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't quad core. Quad core is sorta overkill and it might be a battery hog. I am thinking something bigger than 1.5 dual core is in order though.

On my Epic mobile phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
I have tried to convince the HTC fanboys exactly this but they don't want to hear it. All they have to say it, Samsung phones are plastic and junk.....Um okay, I will enjoy my junk phone that destroys the EVO 3D in every way but you keep thinking your phone is better.

I am so glad I gave this phone a chance because it made me realize how crappy and underachievers HTC phones really are.

Whatever the SGS3 will have it will have to be an upgrade from the SGS2 and because of that, I will be on it!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] EvoSideHustlAZ:
Speaking of evo3d I heard the SGs3 is going to be a 3d screen. Samsung to make 3d phones next year and the Galaxy S3 will have a Quad core processor.

In 2011 Samsung said there was no use for 3d on mobile screens, well now they are planning to make 3d phones in 2012 ! Is this because they have a new technology for making such screens?We think so…They are making Next Gen 3D screens to intergrate with smarphones but that is not all! *They will help you with playing 3D games and record 3D movies and work with you 3DTv.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *It could just be that this screen will be in the Galaxy S III, it would be kinda cool because the name will be Galaxys 3D. ?but to manufacture those screens in big numbers Samsung needs 6 months and that would delay the launch of the S3. So it is not clear until we see the device on MWC. It might be Samsungs first 3d Android phone,wich is expected to launch in Q2 2012.The Korean publication further stated that the Galaxy S3 will be shown at MWC and will be available in April. The Galaxy S3 is expected to feature a quadcore processor, it might just be the Exynos 4412 clocked at 1.5GhZ. And it is expected to run Ice Cream Sandwich and at least have a 4.5 inch Display.Source* *ViaPublished by MartinR
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
3D sucks

Let's hope this is bull
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ccline84:
EDIT: Nevermind.
[Optimus One, P500, V Themes and Apps] dislplin01:
Thought you guys might want to look at this i have it on my new phone (no more optimus) thought maybe someone could try to port it or something its pretty cool and easy to use http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1377759 one cool thing you can still use ROM Manager it as clockwork MOD and flashes everything that clockwork MOD can
[Optimus One, P500, V Themes and Apps] Jrhodes85:
Contact the TWRP group, there's a beta 2.0.0 recovery and the guy who ported twrp 2.0 to our device might do it for this 4ext recovery
[Optimus One, P500, V Themes and Apps] omgpk:
Hey whenever u get the ported recovery, could u post a link for it please and thank you?

sent from my vm670 CM7.2 IHO BACKside KANG oc 825~806
[Optimus One, P500, V Themes and Apps] dislplin01:
I'm driving to LA from San Francisco when I get back I will ask the guy
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfal8705:
Hey Have y'all (Yea I'm from Texas) seen the new Android based OS. Its similar to MIUI but apparently completely Different. It would be a great addition to the E4GT

ROM Family http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1430170
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ajonesma:
it looks a bit more android then miui does, since it looks like it has an app drawer :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ewynn9:
Can't stand the iOS feel. Looking at the screen shots, first thing i thought was iPhone.

Yes, I knew it was a Nexus.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bbedward:
Looks good but I despise closed development on an open platform...

If its just a bunch of apps on top of a rom I'd be happier :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Square icons are ugly.

I don't know why so many people seem to like em
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSkylla:
Love MIUI, don't like this. The reason MIUI looks so nice is because it's a completely different design that looks and plays really clean. This just looks like TW that's trying to look like OSX and an iPhone. Not my cup of tea.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] squshy 7:
Serious hodge podge of themes mashed together in that link right there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CBowley:
Too cartoony for me..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stang04:
i'll pass, cant have have an android and make it almost look like an iphone, i know is not an iphone but looks more like an ios then android to me..:(