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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anjath:
Hi friends,

had some queries regarding when to do the root+CWM and if it will conflict with new updates from samsung.

1. is it best to root as soon as i buy a fresh phone? or should i apply all the updates (if any) and then proceed for the root.

2. should i do a clean format before root. will it conflict with any install of apps. should i install apps after root?

3. what about future updates? will i be able to continue receiving new updates?

4. what is the specific files required to unroot and go back to stock? where can i find my stock zimage. any other files and apps required please inform. I'm using Indian version.

i went through http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1424997

this dr.ketans stock roms list but im not very clear about it.

thanks a lot :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjan.alva:
1. Better to update to new firmware then to root (Update only to Rootable FW)

2. No need to clean format before root.

3. After rooting you wont receive any updates from Samsung.

4. Stock ROM and odlin, KL3 is the last update found in India and its rootable
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anjath:
3. so we'll have to unroot, update to new version and then try to root again?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranjan.alva:
After unroot u need to factory reset to get updates i guess.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr.ketan:
1. I dont see any reason to w8, I have rooted in half n hr of my purchase. I wrote the post how to Root before my purchased (Available in India quite later). But it is your nice question regarding pre or post update, First you updates if any available so you may not need to Re-Root. Just keep in mind If your updates is KL7/KL8, then you have to Root it first.

2. It is always better to Root in clean condition(as soon update ROM), though there is no Rule.

3. No and Yes, No incase you want updates from Kies

Yes in case you can Flash any ROM with Odin

4. You are Indian then I can confirm few more thing, Your last update is KL1

purchased state you may have KK1, just update over OTA, now you will have KL1

Now Root. Dont worry regarding Stock Kernel, Just send Me PM whenever you may need Indian Kernel

To Root , use link in my signature.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anjath:
thanks a lot for the clarification. I'll definitely message you when i need the Indian kernel.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kromosto:
for 3. while my phone is rooted i received KKA update from kies.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] baba_baba:
SE had made available an Ice Cream Sandwich Alpha ROM(4.0.1) for Xperia Line phones(Arc S, Neo V and Ray) but not for X10.

The links is as follows.

http://developer.sonyericsson.com/w...pha-rom-available-for-unlocked-xperia-phones/

Anything we can use from this for our X10???

Important:

This ROM is only for phones with Unlocked Boot loader.

This ROM is strictly targeting advanced developers, and it will not work for ordinary everyday usage, as it only has a limited set of features working.

Download Links:

Ice Cream Sandwich alpha ROM for Xperia™ arc S (132MB), the Ice Cream Sandwich alpha ROM for Xperia™ neo V (131MB) or the Ice Cream Sandwich alpha ROM for Xperia™ ray (132MB) depending on your phone model.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] baba_baba:
Limitations and functionality:

The number of features and functionalities working and turned on in this alpha ROM are very limited. This is because many features are not yet certified, and in a few cases because we have more work to do on certain features, as they are still in the Bring up phase.

These are some of the features turned off or not yet working in this alpha ROM:

Google Mobile Services (GMS) apps are not included (for example, Gmail, Google Maps, etc.).

Modem is turned off and SIM card will therefore not be recognised (this also means you can’t make any phone calls).

Bluetooth™ is turned off.

Wi-Fi® is turned off.

ANT+ is turned off.

FM-radio is turned off.

In other words, this software is not intended for ordinary everyday usage – it is for demonstration purposes only. However, this alpha ROM includes a number of new features:

New “Roboto” font.

New “Holo” theme is supported (you are able to test apps written to make use of the Holo theme).

Music player control from lock screen.

Updated UI in the Settings menu.

Updated UI in the web browser.

Updated UI and interaction with the new messaging action bar.

Updated UI for improved multitasking.

Swipe to dismiss notifications, tasks and browser tabs in the Notification menu.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sahibunlimited:
These devices are very different from x10

And x10 doesn't even have fastboot

If u have to port try from htc desire or nexus one
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] egyptshun:
Close thread please, its junk and irrelevant.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Prodigy:
What he said ^^

All you gave us were lines of copy & paste about installation for other xperia phones when it can't be installed on the x10???

I'm afraid this is old news and has been posted in multiple threads in the general section...

Anyway good luck porting but ya better remove that installation procedure just incase some newbie attempts to install it.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] NoSignal:
WTF ?

This is not for X10, why you posting here?
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] OmegaRED^:
And none of you are developers any and all source is useful.

You un-thankful children.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] baba_baba:
Maybe it is not supposed to work. So there's nothing for X10 in there??
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] robertberma:
Think he is only trying to help.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] DooMLoRD:
this is fairly old info (almost a month now) and has been discussed in some topics in X10 section...
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] egyptshun:
exactly son
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] Achotjan:
no need to consentrate on this , wait till FreeXperia Team work on CM9 , i am gona make a CM9 " Semc Debrand Engine " with all from new SE xperia's android 4 stable builds

dont ask for eta , and if you want to support my work , you can donate , so i can past more time on that project

cheers

Achotjan
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] pheel:
we can always use the roboto or whatever font... :)

other tthen that, waste of database space :/ physcially delete please? :)

@op, I appreciate your trying to help. however, this doesn't belong here, and is irrelevant.

regards, pheelx3
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] baba_baba:
OK fine. Lets get the thread deleted.
[XPERIA X10 Android Development] sahibunlimited:
^^^

Before ur edit u said something else:rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shayes784:
wtf guys, like seriously wtf

http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/for...rom-axi0m-v2-4-apex-v5-kernel-1-6-2012-a.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NIK516:
Poor guy so sad
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blperks2:
Sad, awesome support and Rom from this guy............ I have seen this a few times over the last few years. I'm sorry to hear this has happened again. Very sad day for Axiom, my device will forever miss your work!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] voxigenboy:
it's a shame. i enjoyed tinkering with his roms back on the thunderbolt & been using his latest axi0m builds here also. i don't know him personally so can't comment there, but i do appreciate what he's done here. if you're reading this, thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MrDSL:
it seems to be happening all the time here in all the phone forums..the stories are all the same really..someone thinks they own the code and someone else is stealing it..

really sucks!! wish it was like it was back in the day..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Funny how the big picture is. Open source vs closed source. Things like this just put a dent in things.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xRogerxC:
Well, that's life unfortunately. We live in a world that's full of crap like this happening everyday. Don't expect it to get any better, or you may end up very disappointed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
+1

Unfortunately nothing and no one is ever perfect. All you can do is do your best, what gives you joy, and what makes sure you can sleep at night. Expecting anything else will drive you insane. It takes all kinds, including those that can fight the good fight if the have the time and energy. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TiltedAz:
Sounds like the real world, cut throat and all. Maybe some devs are feeling the pressure of being displaced as some GN owners are uninterested in ROM downloads.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Nothing new. Heck last week kejar31 accused me of kanging Google apps. LOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tuner520:
Keep creating, android is open source. Building and sustaining a business for 15 years is far more difficult than dealing with bickering android devs. Also, there is no TOO MUCH when accepting donations for your current and future creation. There really is no reason to quit creating, especially cuz ICS and GN is still unrefined.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skynet11:
Adrynalyne kanged Angry Birds from my ROM! :mad:

Terminators run on Android :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] A_Flying_Fox:
Wut

Its like that episode of spongebob when they stole a balloon on free balloon day.

You can't steal **** that's free. That's what the n00bs don't realize.

He shouldn't take his work down. From that post alone it shows how passionate he is about his work. Id much rather have something someone is proud of than something someone just threw together just so they can look cool with a bigger version number.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TNS201:
Just don't support Team Liquid Roms or donate to them

It was from what I read Nocoast from that team who started the drama. not sure what the problem was directly.

If you want to get someone back, its always best to hit them where it really hurts, their pocket book. Quit donating to nocoast or team liquid, simple.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dakota0206:
First, let me say I have always enjoyed his work. And I personally think he makes an excellent ROM. I used his ROM on the Bionic, and LOVED it... until he abandoned it in the middle of the night.

I am going to use the Bionic as an example because I never used his ROM when I was using the Razr (I was a little butt hurt over the Bionic).

He made, IMO, the best ROM for the Bionic. He put out almost daily updates, which is good. But almost a pain to keep up with! Then he evolved the ROM to be modular with different themes. As to be expected with a major build change it was a little fragmented with users trying to evolve with the ROM. But there was a TON of potential. Then just a few days later...poof the thread was gone, and no more support.

People have said he broke his bionic or something like that, but why pull the thread? Why not explain to users what happened and let them know they need to transition to a new ROM if you are unable to support it?

You can make the best ROM the world has ever seen. But if you make those kind of decisions you cant whine about the criticism.

This guy has the mentality of a 12 year old. No matter how many people compliment him or speak highly of his work, eventually he is going to read some ignorant comment and get his feelings hurt. Then he takes his ball and goes home.

I have read through several of his ROM threads on mulitple sites, and they don't look any different than any other Devs threads. ROMS are like Phones, Everyone is going to debate which one is better and why. It is all based on the users opinion and what suits their needs.

Why can't this guy see that he has very loyal followers (mistawolf), that should be all he needs. His ego has got to be as fragile as a naked iPhone.

The effects of this decision:

His supporters = Abandoned, hung out to dry.

The Haters = Don't care, they didn't want it anyway.

He is a very talented and smart guy, but in the end he is a quitter.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AllGamer:
these DEV drama seems to happen very often with accusations from one Cook to the other

if only people would stop being so self righteous and share the work without asking questions we can all go with our merry life and every one can co-work and pick anything thats needed to make a ROM cook the way anyone wants
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MasterRy88:
BINGO!

This is what we need to do. When dev's heads get too big and they start attacking other devs for doing, most likely, the exact same thing that they were doing when they first started out.

We have the power to stop this, just boycot nocaost and team liquid, once their donations stop coming in they will fizzle out just like they deserve.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AdamHart612:
Yeah...everyone needs to keep in mind there are no "owners" here. If I wanna copy your ROM line for line I have every right to. Does it make it ok or cool? No. But you can't steal something the other person doesn't own.

Right from source.android.com:

"We wanted to make sure that there was no central point of failure, so that no industry player can restrict or control the innovations of any other. That's why we created Android, and made its source code open"

If you're going to code you should be prepared to have every single letter you type used by others. Sounds like some devs have a holier than thou asshole mentality, which is not what Android is about.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joshnichols189:
That is absurd. It is not fair at all to not use or donate to the whole of team liquid because one member was an asshole. Liquid is a great guy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MasterRy88:
If it really was just one person then the TEAM needs to come out, say they dont approve of what that one guy did and that it in no way refelcts how they run as a team, and that they are getting rid of him.

They either stand behind what that guy did or abandom him from the team.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You guys are quick to grab the rope and hang someone, but...does ANYONE even know why this happened before stringing the guy up? What was said?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pmoradi2002:
Aw man hopefully he'll come back :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AllGamer:
if these dramas continue, soon AOSP will not be quite open anyone it'll turn into ACSP (Android Closed Source Project)

what they are doing is a direct violation of GPL rules
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
GPL only governs the kernel. You knew that, right?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aohus:
it all boils down to $$$

if a dev thinks his work is being kanged, hes gonna go ape****, especially if said person has 'Donations' written all over his work thats not under his name.

frankly, i do not understand why people obsess over ROMs on a daily basis. flashing new ROMs is not fun for me. The ONLY reason I wanted a custom ROM was because I was not happy with stock battery life. But lo and behold custom ROMs actually give me worst battery life, which makes sense. Most of the tweaks are performance related.

The most I go is a custom kernel + undervolting capabilities.

Google developers + rigorous testing process > ROM developers + very limited testing + desire for donations

I'm loving my stock 4.0.2 G Nexus LTE device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joshnichols189:
This. I remember that whole bionic thing because I had a bionic too. Also, he was an asshole when he had a thunderbolt before he started making roms.

Great, because hating on someone off of what you read is exactly the right course of action to take here? How do you know that what you read was the full story? Maybe it was only half the story and DT was the one that started everything?

This.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I remember when DT called Jcase and me fearmongers for investigating the Thunderbolt bricks and that we were wrong. Then he bricked a few days later....:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ferris2375:
Cell phones...serious business.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Serious enough to make you post.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AdamHart612:
Most of Android is covered under Apache 2.0. Getting pissed or starting **** because someone is using your code, with/without credit, is pathetic given the open nature of Android. Congratulations, you're as skilled as millions and millions of other programmers. It shows a lot about the character of people when they get all pissy because they didn't get the cookie they thought they deserve for the work they did on an open source hobby.

Is it lame and sketchy to use someones code without at least crediting them? Oh yeah. I have no idea what happened besides what the OP said, and have no idea who is involved. But that doesn't matter...

Not trying to come off as a ****, but when people start getting defensive about code it bugs me....The Nexus is a testament to open source, and every time people get all grabby it completely violates the spirit of Android and Nexus. 'Tis a shame.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jason1332:
First good laugh of the day! :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] droidstyle:
Trololol!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ericc191:
I never tried any of your stuff, but fwiw, good luck out there and take it easy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TNS201:
Its a team maybe consider getting rid of its bad member(s). He did something childish, made the dev leave. He could of simply PMed him or got a hold of him via another way to make his statement. What he did was intentionally post in the thread to start a battle. Its all about competition. These devs don't always respect another. They want the most users on their ROM. They want the most donations. This was all about wiping away the competition. Axiom got lots of praises and love, perhaps their ROM wasn't getting and he just went out of his way to be an a-hole.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
This is what happens when nerd testosterone get above normal.

You know what I love about open source software? How much it hurts and helps corporations. But even more so how it brought home brew/garage projects back. It is getting harder to have serious hobbies of any kind if a corporation/employer/gov't regulations get in the way. Some nerd gets his panty in a wad on the internet, that nerd goes out of his way to get everybody's panties in a wad. Lol. Everybody posting in this thread has a wedgie.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skynet11:
Nerds have testosterone? :p

Terminators run on Android :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skynet11:
My wedgie is bigger than your wedgie :p

Terminators run on Android :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zlatty:
Well this is disappointing. :mad:

I was looking to update my rom and even the latest versions are no longer available. To drop support is one thing. But to totally remove your files is def. not cool. :(

Now I'm stuck with this rom because of Good For Enterprise ... :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Character Zero:
I don't understand, a dev puts thier source up on github as public since its free and I think github wants to promote open source. Someone else either builds from that source or uses the fixes. So don't make your source public?

I can see giving credit, that is fair. But asking permission, not so sure? Its one thing if you are using an apk someone else compiled and just copying it into your folder, that seems different to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] holmes6:
Nobody wants to be stabbed in the back, criticized, etc.

But it's still the internet, no matter what you post or contribute there's going to be disagreement. Going full throttle one day, then quitting the community without actually confronting the problem shows poor conflict handling.

One of the most frustrating things about modifying previous phones is when the trusted developer moves on to the next one. I've seen it enough times to prefer cm since I know it will be developed going forward. At least this device has more than enough devs to fill the hole.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
actually it shows that he doesnt want to deal with BS when its something he is doing for fun. he doesnt want the stress in his life from his hobby.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Doing something for free, and then getting **** on...

Leaving isn't poor conflict handling, its intelligent. Its like a battered spouse staying with an abusive husband even though he beats her nightly. Nobody should blame her for getting out. Telling her to stay to show better conflict handling is stupid as hell.

Android community is full of whiners and babies who think they are god's gift to the world. They treat devs like garbage and expect thanks and gifts in return. Most devs are equally assholes to each other as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
speaking of gifts.. where is my gold tribute that you were supposed to give to me?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I thought I was supposed to sacrifice 7 virgins?

I can only find men though :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] holmes6:
So when things go wrong, lash out at everyone and quit. That's the proper way to handle conflict and I'm stupid to suggest otherwise. Perhaps you should look in the mirror when thinking about what's wrong with the community.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Thanks for proving my point.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
i have altered the deal, pray i do not alter it further!

seriously? you're one of the reasons TO quit doing ROMs. Dev's dont mind bugs and will generally fix them. the problem is like adrynalyne said is that the users of said ROMs expect that their word is the only word as if it was handed down by God himself.

These guys do this for 1) fun 2) cause they like help people 3) to better their own experience with the phone and decide to share it.

be grateful to them for taking the time to do the work, not a condescending prick when they decide its not worth it to them anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Geezer Squid:
Oh!! Now I understand what you meant by bad conflict handling. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] holmes6:
I'm grateful, I donate, I don't ask for much of anything from anyone. I said it was poor conflict resolution to quit the community. I didn't say the person was stupid or or any such insults that several here are throwing at me..

This is putting words in my mouth.. I never said stay, I just said it's poor conflict handling and left it at that. I stand by that, and think it's a very reasonable assertion. I'm not great at handling conflict either, it's hard to control emotions.

The reason I suggest that you are a problem, which probably wasn't obvious, is that you misread my post and I felt you notched it up a level of attack (stupid as hell) for no good reason. I should have been specific about that since it seems like I was just saying that to be an ass.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Uh,

Are you really taking an analogy I made personal?

Or did I stumble upon a dark secret where you did indeed tell a battered spouse to stay with an abusive husband?

It is stupid. I didn't say YOU were stupid. Wow...relax.

I didn't attack anyone or make anything personal. You just took it that way. Kind of weird. I apologize that you think I personally attacked you, but that certainly was not my intention.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
Is he Codenamed ? No one seems to know much about Codename, other than he makes a kick ass ROM :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] holmes6:
Yeah, I'm guilty of misread and notch up too.. :hug: sorry

this happens to me once in awhile on forums.. I lurk ALOT and come out of nowhere once in awhile. I don't know much about you besides I LOVED your work on the Fascinate and you are making perfect sense now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You know what they say, tone is hard to convey in text. I fall for the same pitfalls myself. I also end up doing a lot of shotgun posting. I post and run, and then come back and "oh sh*t thats not how I meant that to come out" results.