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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
is it possible to use the link i provided to flash back to HC?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Element_01303:
You are also forgetting about the users with no problems on HC, and post ICS update now have horiz bands now running across their displays at random intervals.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nxp3:
I'm not even worried about ICS problems...yes there are some, but it will eventually be fixed by software updates. The real problem are hardware issue. We know the majority does not have good gps, some have poor wifi, and some are saying blutooth is a problem. I have GPS problem myself. All other things will come in time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
Also, my buddy said after his first update it was fine until he upgraded the camera, anyone else?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Element_01303:
Once on ICS it is impossible to downgrade back to HC regardless of some of the more misleading statements. This has been proven manytimes over, by many users with differant conditions i.e. root/no root, rootkeeper, etc.. I have tried all suggested methoods of this and flashing will not work until we have an OTA update with fixes or an unlocked bootloader with clockworkmod support and custom roms. Basically SOL for now (though I would love it if someone found something that proves me wrong on the later as I have a Prime with the display problem)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] markimar:
It's the overclocking they did with ics. You watch the next update will scale the speed back. So for those of us who's upgrade went flawlessly watch out on this next ota we may lose our speed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
I read the banding was fixed by forcing hw or cpu rendering, i forget which.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
Joke, or complete lack of clue?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Element_01303:
No it has not. This something I have been following very closely, and everytime someone has found some new setting that is suppoed to have fixed the issue it only seems that way because of the intermittent nature of it, nothing suggested so far to the best of my knowledge has had any lasting effect. It is my belief that when the OTA was pushed out, that a full wipe was not incorporated into the flash... thus regardless of the hardware issues of which I know there are some, we have added a dirty install on top of it... a total cluster f**k. That with all the changes with ICS makes any one reason very diffacult if not impossible to pinpoint.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
http://www.talkandroid.com/82990-fo...freezes-lock-ups-and-possibly-bricks-devices/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Element_01303:
Thanks for this! Now that word is out hopefully some attention gets drawn to it.... come on ASUS I have faith in you!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
time to start tweeting it and posting on their FB page =D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
How does this help. You're just making more noise.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
DUH, thats the point. ASUS has done absolutely nothing since this happened. The entire purpose IS to make noise and get a response/fix. I didn't expect an article to FIX the issue, we want ATTENTION DRAWN TO IT.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hairdewx:
I'm on ICS, rooted, running beautifully :D All thoughts of waiting for the TF700 are now gone.

I love this tablet :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
I don't even have mine until tomorrow, hoping all goes well =D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tshoulihane:
you don't even have one, and you're crying about yours not working?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nooganator:
Sooo true.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JohnDaddyo:
So many has been noobs still drooling to call

the next guy a noob. How lame to continue

using the tired name.

My real point of posting was to ask, what method

are most using to root?

BTW, not cool to clog a thread with lame, baby noob

calling.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
Where did I cry about mine not working? I mentioned my friend got his last night, upgraded to ICS out of the box and now it reboots every few minutes. I'm merely concerned with lack of acknowledgement from anyone official.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] KDLMaj:
I just wish someone would cover the serial number issue- then ASUS would be forced to deal with it. None of the articles about ICS I've seen have mentioned it- I'm not sure how it's escaped peoples' notice.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Falhawk:
So we're clear, you don't even have the device and yet you're petitioning other sites to run an "expose" on ICS?

You do realize that lots of people have different issues with software updates across the board right?

I mean on my phone I've had issues when I upgraded to Froyo and again when I upgraded to Gingerbread. My wife, who has the same phone, has had tons of other issues. It just happens.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
Did your phone ever REBOOT EVERY 5 MINUTES from a OTA upgrade? With no way possible to rollback?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cyork2:
noob - data point

Noob here.. not crying but maybe returning... here is a data point to add to the discussion / debate / confusion.

Transformer prime 32 received Jan 6th. Comparing WIFI connectivity with HP EliteBook 8440p from April 2011.

Hotel WIFI so I don't know the distance however they don't offer wired connections in the rooms so they expect to have full coverage for business users. Laptop signal strength meter shows 2 to 3 bars with regular fluctuations but never drops. Prime will connect then drop as the signal fluctuates. Consistent for more than 4 hours of operation. No Blue Tooth. Rebooting Prime had no effect. So basically when my laptop shows 3 bars I can get a weak connection on the Prime and when it shows 2 I drop.

I realize the signal strength icons on devices are unreliable and inconsistent from vendor to vendor. In my home I noticed the meter showed about half the signal strength as my laptop at 10 ft, through 1 interior wall (4 bars vs. 2 bars) but since you can't trust those meters I ignored it.

I'll be doing more tests but is it unreasonable to expect similar WiFi performance between the prime and a laptop?

thx,

Craig
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
Should I only care about an issue if it DIRECTLY affects me? I just want some kind of acknowledgment from Google/ASUS that there IS a problem and a fix is being worked on. Do I need to have a tablet to expect that? I've seen the issues first hand. I just spent $550 on a tablet that I recieve tomorrow, I think I have a right to expect an answer even if it DOESN'T DIRECTLY AFFECT ME, because it may in the future
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoteriX:
...depends. Is your laptop made out of a unibody aluminum shell and chassis? :)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5175/asus-transformer-prime-followup
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nooganator:
Whoa there guy. Clearly you haven't been watching how many threads there are related to the same stuff over and over. Its not like Asus came out and made all of these people buy a prime unit. Yea there are defective units I get it. What I don't get is why people are coming on to XDA and blogging to the world on how their tp sucks or how asus this and that. Seriously. Its a new enough tablet to return if you aren't satisfied with it. Who are you to call out the people who frequent these boards for real issues?

Btw http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1439429 for root.

In my many years experience with Asus they have always done right to me. From what I've seen so far I'm actually impressed with how they are handling things.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hairdewx:
If it happens consistently in different places with and without other wifi devices present then there may be an issue.

I travel often with laptops and even between laptops on the same table signal strength and bandwidth can vary. For example, my brother's laptop for some reason hogs up all the bandwidth, leaving the rest of us to fight for the scraps. We are all on the same version of Windows 7, so that part is puzzling.

Maybe his laptop is just an asshole ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] denverbuckeye:
smh ... well since 95% of people are completely thrilled and happy with both their Prime and ICS then, yes, you should wait until you try your tablet before making a stink.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mike infinity:
In the Plattsburg airport the free wifi was...my guess...not able to deal with the traffic from all the waiting passengers. So none of our devices could connect (ipad, TF101 I had at the time, and Galaxy Nexus). We did manage to connect the ipad and GN eventually but not the TF101. This was certainly not the fault of the TF though as both other devices had experienced the same issue at other times from the same location.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
Like I said, my friends updated to ICS out of the box last night and now doesn't stay on for more than 5 minutes, so I can make all the stink I want. If you don't like it, dont read the thread. Oh, and I can make up %s too, how did you come up with 95%, some serious research huh?

Bottom line, I want some answers from ASUS/Google. If your tablet works, enjoy it. If you dont want to read my thread, dont. But to the people who NEED HELP and havent heard ANYTHING, this is for them.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hairdewx:
Hope it goes well for you too!

I did:

1) used viperMod right out of the box after I entered my google account. (installed viper's TF201 drivers, etc.) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1427125

2) Then downloaded root keeper (is that the name?),

3) backed up root,

4) temporarily removed root through root keeper,

5) upgraded to ICS, and

6) restored root through root keeper.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fenturi:
Are "well since 95% of people are completely thrilled?"

I got mine a week ago, all was fine... wifi was fine, do not need gps and have not tested bluetooth. I upgraded to ICS, and now it is NOT FINE! It reboots every few minutes, and the last time the screen turned to white bands and froze.

I now have an unusable device, and have seen nothing about an update to this issue.

I'd rather not RMA and I'd rather not have this issue... but it's not a small problem like no GPS, the device is unusable after ICS and worked fine before.

If it was a PC, I would say the graphics card was overheating. The fact some work is no doubt like how some CPU's will over clock better than others.

I don't want to have to return mine, but I would like an answer from ASUS on this issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
OP, although I can tell you mean well, you went a lil overboard. Especially since you haven't even received your prime yet. you said your friend just got his and had an issue. OK. But people here been had issues and trying to deal with them. You came into this section of forums like a bat outta hell..lmfao without even first hand knowledge on the issues really affecting everyone. your friend just receiving one or yours on da way doesn't count.

Like I said, I know you mean well and trying to help out. But there's certain ways to go about doing it. I read this whole thread and that article from Android site that caught wind of this. which I'm sure you're the one who tipped them off. You made these issues sound very exaggeratted. That article on that site made it seem like all prime owners are having issues since ICS update. which is not true. Just take a look at the other thread on ICS and the polls people made. Majority voted no issues, whether rebooting, slower wifi speeds, or screen disbanding or whatever. This issues are affecting "SOME" users,not all. That article makes XDA look bad. Article makes it seem like we all acting like crybabies everytime an issue arises. It is Asus job to fix issues BUT they will do it on their time, in a timely fashion. You talking about Asus hasn't addresses issues since ICS rolled out. WELL GOT DAMN! its only been a lil over 24hrs or so....DAMN! give them time to address it. They not gonna act any quicker with people thinkn they run their company or their the boss of Asus. If I were Asus reading that article I'd be like f!#& XDA people. Let them sweat since they want to whine so much about any and everything.

Moral of story is give them ample time tl address what's going on. Hasn't been long enough yet. Don't give XDA a bad image or press by over exaggerating issues going on in here. You are new tl Prime area. Most of us been here since the beginning and tugging it out and trying to find solutions. Get your Prime first then make some noise if you choose. Don't come up in here like you already know the whole deal, WHEN YOU DONT.

Once again, sorry to sound harsh at points. but just getting point across. I know you mean well But dang..lmao. Hope you receive your Prime and everything works fine and don't have to deal with some issues that people since beginning have been dealing with. I'm not one of the ones having issues but my Prime has worked great since Day 1 and after ICS update.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] KDLMaj:
You know- I have to say though, there's a massive customer service issue here. Personally, it didn't bother me that I was shipped a defective (unknown serial number bug) unit. It bothered me that when I called ASUS, I was flat out told there was no ICS update, and that there was nothing wrong with my unit- even though I told the rep that my unit was unable to get *any* updates on its own.

It also bothered me that when I called back later after doing more research and point blank told them that I needed a new unit, they refused and look at it and told me that I'd have to wait 2 weeks minimum before they'd look at my system- that there was an OTA update issue but it had nothing to do with individual units. Again- completely discounting the fact that I had a system that was unable to get any updates.

In contrast, when I called Officedepot and told them I had a defective unit in need of exchange, no one even bothered asking me what was wrong. They just accepted the fact that I said it wasn't working at face value. Now, OD REALLY screwed up when they expected me to fork over $600 for a new unit while waiting on a refund for the old one, but at least they gave me the benefit of the doubt and were completely willing to take the unit back and issue a refund for it.

And my story isn't unique- this has been the standard story on these boards and several others. So I'd say that there's plenty to complain about here. ASUS dropped the ball- they've had a nightmare release of their product, and they haven't had the grace to deal with it well. So why should we?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
Where in the article did they say it affects everyone? All it says is some people are experiencing issues.

Not everytime an issue arrises, everytme someones device is UNUSABLE because of a OTA UPDATE with NO WAY TO ROLLBACK and there is no formal accouncement, tweet or facebook update.

That, along with your grammar, is exactly why you DONT work for them.

Once again, im not exaggerating anything, and I know the deal, ****s not working and no one will acknowledge it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
This is understandable. I've seen the others having stories similar to yours. Asus did drop the ball. No one should have to be stuck with a defective device. Their customer service has been lacking through this whole ordeal. Most of those reps are meant to deal with simple issues and really don't know the ins and outs if the Prime. when people call them about an issue, all they do is lunch it in the computer and a protocol comes up telling them what to say. If you have an issue they never heard of or whatever then they really stumped n just tell you some b.s. like reset it or send it in..lol

To the OP, you really don't know the deal. your friend telling you something or reading a thread here doesn't qualify that. Until you get first hand knowledge of even owning or having a prime in your possession already, just fall back....lol. Get in where you fit in. You coming in here like you already own a defective prime and making alot of noise. Once you join the club, officially, of people owning a Prime or having first hand knowledge of issues, then you will know deal..lol.

not to be coming off funny but I'm just saying :cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
LOL this isn't from Transformer Prime fraternity bud, it's an open community. I don't need to "Get in where I fit in". I saw his reboot every 5 minutes FIRST HAND. WTF do you care if i'm trying to get help? I'm assuming yours works fine hence you don't give a sht?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Falhawk:
Yes.

Have your friend make the thread.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] di11igaf:
I know for a fact there was a wifi kernel driver regression for me. I know exactly how far I can go outside until I lose wifi on my devices since when I go out to smoke I usually have one with me. All HC firmwares with the prime I could be in the same exact spot(literally) where my tf-101 has to be and the prime was getting identical speeds.

Now with ICS, I barely get a signal at all outside, so I'd like to see what they changed driver wise(or system wise). Driver needs to be rolled back IMO.

other than that, everything is perfect. No reboots, fast & smooth, don't really use GPS on my tablet so can't comment on that

It sounds like those rebooting possibly need a small voltage bump. I bet when Asus overclocked the CPU they didn't want to affect battery too much so they likely kept voltage very close, which could easily cause those issues. ( the good thing is, if your not rebooting, there's still more room to over clock/under volt- and I can't say for sure what they did without looking at the source)

Edit- after messing around for a minute, the tablet will only hit 1600 in a single threaded situation, 1200 Max otherwise. So possibly those rebooting are doing something single threaded or a single threaded app is letting the CPU max out, causing the reboot?(just a non-educated guess)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
What difference does it make who makes the thread? The point is the same. I could say now that its my Transformer, you wouldnt know the difference and nothing would change.

Your attitude is exactly whats wrong with people

"It doesnt hurt me so why should I give a ****"

If you dont like the thread, dont read it and dont comment on it. Simple enough.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 3rdamention:
Dont forget about the 17 page thread here of all of the users that cannot update their Prime to ICS because they do not have serial numbers in their systems, myself being one of them. I would love to be a contact on that because I am beyond frustrated and fired up.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1426881&highlight=serial+unknown

Also, you have people calling Asus about the "Serial Unknown" problem and multiple, multiple accounts of Asus' own customer service reps saying it hasn't been released, it is a malicious release. it wasn't released by Asus if it was released, meanwhile, Asus, the same company saying ICS doesn't exist yet, is touting ICS all over facebook and twitter.

Yeah, just for fun, call Asus up and tell them your system will not update to ICS. The answers are hilarious. They will flat out tell you that ICS hasn't been released yet, seriously!! That alone will show you there are serious customer service issues right now with Asus, mount that on top of Serial Number issues, then then GPS issues, then GPS removal, then GPS fix on a new system, then horizontal banding, then Wifi and Bluetooth interference when running at the same time, then multiple restarts and reboots after ICS, then systems not turning on from the minute they turn on, then systems not charging while on the dock or not charging at all, and finally charging cables pulling apart at the "seams."

Yeah, there are a few issues with Asus and the Prime so while everyone can continue to be mad that these forums are now filled with "noobs", these issues are going to continue until they are fixed. I am sorry some of the veterans and Asus loyalists from the beginning are upset, but they should be more excited with a huge addition to the xda community.

Finally, I will apologize for myself, who falls into this "noob" category. You know, this 35 year old married father of 2 who teachers 6th Grade Computers. I know I have annoyed many of you, and I have added posts where I have complained, but it was because these forums were full of very smart Asus customers who HAVE been here from the beginning and DO known how Asus and their products work.

Many of you should be honored that the "noob" envasion happened. People, such as myself, have lurked for months, growing in respect for your knowledge about the development and hardware of the Transformer Prime. So when we get one that has issues, we go to where the experts are. Many of you have been awesome, but the High Horse act that others have taken is very disappointing for me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Mine does work fine but I also do care.

Anyways, I just signed the petition and joined the movement. No sense in debating issues. :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DroidHam:
Good, like I said, I just want to draw attention to the multiple issues people are experiencing. I'd be pretty bummed if my $500+ device is completely unusable from a OTA update and no one knows wtf is going on.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fenturi:
Has factory reset worked for anyone who was having rebooting issues?

"Edit- after messing around for a minute, the tablet will only hit 1600 in a single threaded situation, 1200 Max otherwise. So possibly those rebooting are doing something single threaded or a single threaded app is letting the CPU max out"

This sounds right to me, what was the max it could go to before? What do you use to show CPU speed?

I have played with overclocking on PC's for decades and this really looks like a failed overclock. AKA some work, some do not as the the parts of the same batch can be pushed more than others. And yes when you want to OC a part that is crashing you up the voltage, however that is more heat and there is no real way to add more cooling to a tablet.

I'm guessing the "fix" will be to limit it to 1.4 or 1.5 max single CPU, however some of us may have damaged our chips already.

The fact that mine is slightly more stable when it's charging suggests that this is true as well.

Is there anyone with root and rebooting issues able to set it to 1.2 max and see if it works? (assuming you can keep it powered on long enough)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thatbigmoose:
I'm new here, so im not sure if this is possible, but you should add a link to the article in the OP.

Most people probably don't want to sift through the pages of this thread looking for that link

Regards,

Moose
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hansgregor:
same thing about rooted WW.

I like it, except, probably, the wifi is a little bit weak than on HC.

but i did not run before/after tests to confirm.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
My issues:

-GPS cluster f***

-ICS killed ad hoc networks so no wireless tether for me

-took GPS on/off switch out of the quick settings menu

-Battery data only shows system resources, nothing about apps - worthless this way

So, really, not to bad but 1 and 2 are pretty big to me. Ultimately, I love this tablet. But 1 and 2 sucks. Other 2 are petty buy annoying.