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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
no problem..I was just trying to get the point across with the caps..lol

is there an apk or app for BT tether? I have a rooted Atrix 4g and don't remember seeing an option built in for that. BT tether is better than no tether at all but we still need to get to the bottom of what's going on or figure a way to enable ad hoc.

I only remember pieces of info but to enable it, the guy had to use terminal emulator or something to push the commands into device to enable ad hoc. I also remember that he messed up his wifi completely at first trying to figure it out..lmfao. he ended up reflashing rom and starting over.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
I'd be willing to bet the ones using the same betas that does work has the option in the settings that is nowhere to be found on ours..... it appears the application installs different depending on what phone can't think of any other reason why some people might see the option and others don't with same exact software.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
I'm running an ICS rom on my Droid X, which had no issue with tethering before ICS. I've tried several configurations on several versions of wifi tether without success...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
OK for those of you who are using the 3.1 beta 6 and tethering is working for ICS can you please go into the Wi-Fi tether settings and see if the option to check driver reload exists?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] drewskee:
Tethering still works flawlessly on my device. Im using 3.1-beta6 on my rooted Evo 4g to my ICS tfp. try that version and see if it works. I too installed ICS while tethered since I was on the road to work by the time I get there (15minutes) ICS was installed and updating the camera firmware. Good luck
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
For those of us with issues, I suspect THIS will be the fix in some way...

The Prime can see the network you create with your tether app just fine BUT it will not connect due to this new Ad hoc change in ICS. There are ways to make Android tablets enable the ability to see ad hoc networks. You can Google and see them, but they are a bit techincal and I have not had luck just yet. For example, here is just one but I get errors in Step 4. It requires root and busybox of course on your tablet.

The answer is in something like this to tell ICS to go back to accepting Ad Hoc networks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
Please go into your Wi-Fi tether settings and see if there is an option or box that says driver reload
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] drewskee:
Correct...."Wifi-driver reload" is checked.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] willowave:
Thanks for the info. I am on a Droid Charge. Using the same tether app, but I am using beta 2. And on a side note, I also do NOT have that wifi driver reload option. Even after enabling access control. And no, it's not under LAN.

Maybe I'll try updating to beta 6.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
Ok so those of us who are using 3.1 beta 6 and Wi-Fi tether Is NOt working DO NOT have that setting there it does not exist so can any genius explain or figure out why the exact same application would appear to configure or install differently on a different phone? This has something to do with the problem.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I used that wireless tether 3.1 beta 6. I changed the profile to HTC evo 3d. I was able to check off access control. then I saw that driver reload option. I tried the tether again and it still didn't work.

I also noticed access control only came available after I changed phone profile. then I had to check it off before I started the tether. once tether started I could go back into options and see that wifi driver reload and check it off. still did nothing though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
the setting is also not under beta 10 for me..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] willowave:
So it's based on phone, but, based on the above comment, it doesn't matter if you reload the drivers. it doesn't help the issue. so we know it's not the wifi app version number.

OK then. So there are not really any consistency's in this anywhere? Except it worked, and now it doesn't but only for some of us.

Yay.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I tried this... it did not work for me BUT I still think this is where we will find the fix... turning ad hoc networks back on in ICS

http://androidtablethacks.com/android-tablet-hacks/how-to-enable-adhoc-wifi-on-android-tablets/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] WildH:
Back to the research part. For some reason it also depended on the maker of your device. I had a htc thunderbolt as well at the time and used the beta 6 app and it worked fine. My thoughts are some phones broadcast in infrastructure, some don't. from reading posts on this thread it looks like those with HTC devices are not having problems. I've not tried anything on a	Motorola device so I can't help there. Wish I knew more and hope people can get it to work.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
that's the article I was talking about. good find. looks risky though..lmao don't want to mess up wifi completely
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I tried it, it did not work. It made the backup, seemed to go smoothly, but on reboot I still got my phone seen as ad hoc. So, I just did the provided undo method.

I see all my wifi signals and strength as before. So, it seems no ill effect.

This is where the answer is... someone just needs to help us for the Prime and ICS as I think that "wpa_supplicant" file has to be specific to the device?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
The thing is though, we shouldn't even have to try enable ad hoc wifi mode again. it was said honeycomb and ICS stopped supporting it. I used my wireless tether app on HC. Wireless tether is an Infrastructure tethering method. somehow ICS needed how it views that connection and now views it as an ad hoc network although its not one.

I think we need to figure out why ICS changed the way its viewing the type tethering mode in our 3rd. party app. cuz its viewing it wrong and labeling it wrong.

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I'm wondering if we can put out a request for a developer to either create an app to enable ad hoc mode or change the way it views connections or just create a new wireless tethering app that has no chance of not being mistaken for an infrastructure connection.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I dont know what else to do? I have tried 4-5 tether apps. I have tried setting changes. I have tried re-enabling ad hoc networks... I have tried it all and failed. I am tired.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoteriX:
I'm just tuning in now, so forgive me if I'm behind on things, but this sounds like not an "app" but a "phone" specific issue?

Historically, some phones have been able to do ad-hoc and others not. Could it be the case that the implementation for infrastructure mode on certain phones isn't as robust or doesn't precisely conform to the infrastructure wifi standard that ICS is now seeking?

In my brief scan of the comments, it seems that Motorola phones make of the majority of those having issues. It also appears that those using recent HTC or LG (and possibly Samsung?) phones are not experiencing issues. Can anyone else corroborate the possible patterns here?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] val1121:
I'm using wireless tether 2.0.7 on a rooted HTC Incredible non-rooted TP . No issues. BTW my version doesn't have those settings either.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scottydogg:
I have a Sprint Motor Photon with a Rogers SIM card...Stock wifi tether worked perfectly!!! I'm sure if I had a Sprint tether plan that it would work on the Sprint network also. Even before ICS I had problems connecting at times...seems like ICS actually helped!! I haven't tried any third party tether apps yet, but I will update when I do!!

PS - For all the TFP haters out there...there isn't one new device that doesn't have its bugs/quirks/design flaws!! I strongly suggest posting the anti-TFP sentiment elsewhere!! You are not helping at all!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
samsung epic 4g touch here same problem+ random reboots looks like i've just about had enough of this **** asus rushed everything with the prime i'm returning the favor and rushing it back to the store.......

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If your prime was locking up and rebooting itself every hour and you couldn't use Wi-Fi tether you would change that attitude.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] scottydogg:
Nope...wouldn't change my attitude!! Yeah I'd be pissed, but I would just return the damn thing not tell people not to buy it!! There are plenty of TFP success stories im sure. The good TFPs are amazing...like mine :-). I agree Asus may have rushed things with the Prime, but all these problems everybody is having are the risks you take when you buy a tech device right after the launch. I believe Asus will eventually come up with a solution, but unfortunately we may have to wait awhile.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Actually this isn't a phone or app issue. This is an Ice cream Sandwich issue. ICS changed the way it views our infrastructure tethering app called Wireless tether. Instead of viewing it as infrastructure, tether, like its supposed to be, ICS now is calling it an Ad Hoc network. Honeycomb or ICS doesn't support Ad-Hoc tethering. Before update ,on honeycomb, all our tethering apps worked perfectly fine. Now since updating to ICS, alot of peoples 3rd. party wifi tethering apps aren't working anymore for some reason. The only consistent change in the equation is ICS.

I see your other point on not as robust or something. But still doesn't answer why these same tethering apps that worked on honeycomb with no issues, now doesn't work on ICS. If it were like you said then it wouldn't of worked on Honeycomb either because HC and ICS doesn't support ad hoc. which in any case the apps we using aren't Ad hoc anyways but strangely ICS is saying it is. :confused:

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The Prime itself as a device is not the cause of this. Its the new ICS firmware which changed around some wireless protocols or whatever and now its nerfed our Wireless tether app(which is infrastructure) to say its Ad hoc connection, which its not. since it incorrectly sees that, it won't allow connection. where before on honeycomb there was no issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Semantics:
After reading this thread, I fired up my rooted EVO 3D and turned on my hacked hotspot, TFP found my phone and hooked up instantly. No issues to report here, but I do not use wireless tether app.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
Seems to be the common theme built in hotspots apparently work downloaded ones like 3.1 Wi-Fi tether and Open Garden do not....... the odd thing is that it's not just ICS since some phones still work it's a combination of the phone+ ICS together and good luck figuring that one out......
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cadillac Johnson:
typing this on my rooted ICS Prime tethered to my Tbolt running the native tether app on Liquid 3.2 (modified version of CM7)

So far ICS seems nice, but nothing game changing.. Really want some custom ROM's and kernel's once we can unlock the bootloader.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Again you don't fall into the demographic of affected users - native tether app
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] indiscriminant:
Wifi Tether working fine for me on my EVO 3D with Hotspot no issues (rooted)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
I finally figured out a app that works with the Droid x & lets me tether. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
well, what is it? SMH

for other poster, I already had version 2.0.7. that was the one that worked perfectly on HC and now doesn't on ICS. I even tried the experimental 2.0.8 version. its a no go

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I think we might need to make a developer request thread. They could solve the issue or make a new app or fix.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] willowave:
care to share? silly that I have to ask but apparently that's what you wanted.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
Douchbag award of the year for you buddy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Yep, 2.0.7 was flawless under Honeycomb.. Now, it matters not. I tried both the 6 and 10 betas and 3 other tether apps. But, as I said from the get-go, it is a change in ICS & we know this now. Period. For those that come in late, read the facts, findings and issues to confirm it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] willowave:
I think we might need to make a developer request thread. They could solve the issue or make a new app or fix.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I'm going to bet that there's already a dev out there that is running into the same issue we are and working on figuring it out.

*I suppose I'm going to find out that we can't revert back to Honeycomb?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I did hours ago in the dev area :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JanetPanic:
Wifi tether works fine from my T-Mo Galaxy Nexus(stock rom and stock tethering function) It does not help you and for that I apologize. I am using tether for this post as a matter of fact.

Is your tether in infrastructure or ad-hoc mode? I see discussion about using infrastructure (always a good idea) but not what those having problems are using.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] willowave:
I'll just ask you since you are already on here, can we revert back to Honeycomb?

I started to look..but didn't get much of a chance while I'm here at work. lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cadillac Johnson:
If you have an OG Droid, why not just flash a ROM with built in tethering until you find a solution?

Don't want to come across as a ****, but its not like there's a shortage of custom ROM's for the OG.

May not be ideal for you, but I spose you'd have to weigh that against how important tethering your Prime is..

Sent from my cellular telephone using magic
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
OK, I figured out a solution. not ideal but better than no connection at all. Using the same Wireless tether app version 2.0.7 go into settings. in there you will see Bluetooth PAN tethering. OK REWINDDDD! LOL. Before cutting that on, cut on BT on both devices and pair and connect them. if its not connecting first try, then unpair and try again. make sire they connect. then go to wireless tether app. go to settings. then go to BT PAN. cut it on by checking off the box. then both devices should connect and you have BT tethering. You will even see thst in the notifications area where it usually lists the name of network connected to, itll now say BT tether. Mind you that its alot slower than wifi tethering but better than no connection at all. its decent. I did 1 speed test n got a lil over 1mb download speed..lol

As I posting all of this through the BT tether now just to test. so it works. a workaround for now at least for whoever away from home or wifi n need an internet connection.

feel free to hit the thanks..lmfao
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoteriX:
Look, I understand what you're saying, but the reality is that if it was solely an ICS issue, everyone would be having problems. However, it's clear that only some subset of users experienced the drop in wifi tethering connectivity, and others are just fine.

Merely pointing the finger at the ICS update obscures the real question here -- what is it about specific phones AND the Transformer Prime ICS update that is causing problems. Identifying which phones are problematic goes a long way towards understanding and hopefully addressing the issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
It is a fair ? and your not being a ****.. the simple answer is that I have a ROM I like and I have a stable phone. Trying to fix 1 issue on my tablet could create 4 on my phone with a ROM change. Not worth it to me.

Now, I WOULD gladly flash a stand alone stock tethering app for my phone if I knew of one. But I do not.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NeoteriX:
From the look of it, the use of the native tethering app seems to be irrelevant if I understand things correctly. People using both native apps and the root-required Wifi Tether are reporting success.

If anything, it looks to be a phone by phone or a phone brand issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I tried something like this with BT in that and the beta apps available already, but not "this" process so I will try it and report back.

UPDATE: no work.. are you sure you have WiFi turned off in your test :) I removed them both, went to re-pair and get the matching pass key code (which you dont out in anywhere) and then I just get "Droid connecting" on the Prime and "paired but not connected" on the Droid. So they never connect, yet see each other and show the same code.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
its understandable...I figured out a good work around till this all gets straightened out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
Sorry I see most people had no problem tethering. But its called Wifi Hotspot/Wifi Tether. & it's made by Droid apps.

Again sorry I saw no one mention having problems tethering on a Droid x but this is what I just tried & my prime was finally able to connect to it. Let me know if it works for you guys:cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
When there's a will, there's a way! lol I'm done with this for tonight unless someone needs help connecting the BT PAN method of tethering. This has been a good part of the day trying to figure all this out. SMH. this is good enough connection for now till we canbget to bottom of why particualr phones and ICS is not allowing Wifi tethering through normal methods used before.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] willowave:
uhm...I dl'ded that and it's for USB tether and then it asks me if I want to connect to order mobile broadband.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I feel you, I spent an inordinate amount of time on this.

And BTW, this did not work for me. I updated my post on last page, but they see each other on BT but never pair up..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
Not true it gives me the option for mobile wifi hotspot
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
OK, don't worry. I had same issue at first and almost gave up on it. then I tried something different. Unpair both devices. then cut BT on again on both devices. make sure both are discoverable. scan for devices on the prime. you should see your cell phone up there. click it to pair device. then it will ask you for confirmation on both devices..confirm. OK. once confirmed it will say paired but not connected or something like that. Press the area that shows your phone on the prime again. now it should say connecting then connected. Now go to wireless tether app. then settings. then check of BT PAN. now back out once and start the tether. you should be connected. it worked for me. I had same issue at first as you. then tried again. they have to be paired and "Connected" in order for it to work. once BT tether is working, you will see it in your notification area showing BT tether.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Nope.. but you know, not even sure I care as I will not settle for this anyway.

BTW, the Prime never shows "connected" It just shows the name. If they are not connected it says "connecting..." but once connected, it says nothing. On the phone, it always shows "pair but not connected".

"you will see it in your notification area showing BT tether" - in which item? the phone or the tablet?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
it'll show in Prime notification area after BT tether is started. once BT tether started and officially connected, you will see an IP address or something in your phone notification area. believe me it works. I had same issue at first but after trying again I got tthem to pair and connect and it worked.

if you got it to say connecting, then just go to start the BT tether afterwards.

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I tried to take a screen shot of it saying BT tethered in Prime notification area but it kept minimizing everytime I tried to take a screenshot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Just FYI I solved something that was vexing a number of us

... that was - why were some people seeing certain settings in the beta apps and why others were not?

Answer: it is all based on the choice you make under "Device-Profile"

For example, when I select "Moto Droid" I never saw some of these settings being talked about like "wifi-driver reload". BUT if I select something like "Google NexusOne" viola.. more settings options reveled.

Still no resolution, but explains why the same app was showing some people some settings and not others. The whole time is was because of their setting selection under "Device-Profile"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nslayden:
Still works for me, but I'm rooted and using a custom rom.
[General Questions and Answers] Innovator:
Hi,

I just sold my HTC Touch Pro 2 and considering the following phones:

HTC Sensation 299

HTC Encredible S €303 - €315

HTC Desire S €239

Samsung Galaxy S2 €226 (probably not possible, false price on Ebay)

Sony Xperia Arc 266

Sony Xperia Ray €279

Regulus Android dual sim €215

In which order you would prefer or which phones wouldn't you recommend?
[General Questions and Answers] emadehaddad:
HTC Incredible hands down.

I had the first Droid Incredible and I absolutely loved it.

If this is too pricy for you, the Galaxy S2, the Sensation then the Desire would be good choices also.

I'm not a fan of Sony phones so I can't really help with that, sorry.
[General Questions and Answers] Innovator:
I just checked youtube and the Incredible has the best contrast/viewing angle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oLz3CT35-4

But on this site 62% voted Sensation (1800 votes) and only 23% voted Incredible (600 votes)

http://www.androidauthority.com/incredible-s-desire-s-sensation-–-which-is-better-12619/

So I guess Incredible has best screen and Sensation best overall ?
[General Questions and Answers] DrMadman:
Since the Sensation has at least the same specs as the Incredible, plus bigger screen resolution, dualcore CPU (overclocks to at least 1.5GHz), better GPU (Adreno 220 vs 205) and HDMI-out via MHL, I'd take (and I just took) the Sensation. Screen might be a little better on the Incredible but not by so much it would make a big difference.

Galaxy S2 is a great phone too, I just don't trust Samsung that much... Sensation feels expensive when held in hand, S2 is too plasticky. The super AMOLED screen is awesome though, much better than anything HTC can offer at the moment. Also S2 might be slightly faster of the two, since it has more ram and ~30% smaller screen resolution.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
All those seem like downgrades... Winmo is a higher quality OS than android and runs better even on inferior hardware. Sure it didn't have an app catalog, but in comparison I'd stick with winmo or upgrade to Microsoft's latest OS. No point in going from poor quality OS to poorer quality OS.
[General Questions and Answers] Mainspring:
nobody wants a winmo... it's a dead mobile os at the moment.

perhaps with some luck it might pick up steam but it's not looking too good at the moment.

overall(and out of the choices listed) I'd say the Senny.

not saying that because I own one, it's just that it's a overall win.

now having said that if you can get the SGS2 for the price listed then I'd say jump on it.

long as all the plastic doesn't bother you and can live with the lower resolution screen... (hopefully it's the Exynos version though... if it's the Snapdragon, I'd still get the Senny over it)