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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jmecherul:
well, i am not sure if you guys are correct about this.

i have sn: BCOKAS005XXX, and i am exhibiting some of the issues. GPS was non-existent before the ICS update. it seems that it improved a little bit with ICS as it picks up 1 or 2 satellites without wifi, but nothing to work with. my samsung galaxy s 4g gets 10 satellites within 2 seconds using GPS TEST.

had a bunch of issues after ICS upgrade with sluggishness and touchscreen lag until i did a factory reset. i do not see a way of clearing the cache as when i do VOL-DOWN and POWER gives me the option to reset using VOL-UP. if i do that, i get sort of the the android with the gear rotating for a couple of seconds and then i get an exclamation mark in a big orange triangle above the android and nothing happens. i have to power down from the button. i am not sure what that is all about. maybe somebody has an idea.

wifi still seems crappy. it works, but very slow. i have it sitting next to my computer and i get around 30mb while my computer gets 350mb. i am not sure why the wifi is slow in this tablet. didn't check it on my phone to see what i get. i have only supperficially looked at the bluetooth interfering with wifi issue, as i ran a speedtest with the bluetooth off and with the bluetooth on and does not seem to affect wifi, but i did not have anything connected through bluetooth.

decisions, decisions. i think i have until tomorrow to return it. hope someone can help me with my decision.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Fox1966:
I reran some tests, using both a G network, and an N network, to see what kind of difference existed (if any). No data was being streamed, it was simply paired to my Galaxy phone:

Here are the results:

G Network:

Blutooth OFF = 14.11 mbps down, 4.01 mbps up

Blutooth ON = 6.98 mpbs, 3.98 mbps up

N Network:

Blutooth OFF = 15.11 mbps down, 3.94 mbps up

Blutooth ON = 3.8 mbps down, 3.94 mbps up

It definitely makes a bigger difference on my Wireless N network, but still, that is a huge drop...this explains why I had difficulty trying to watch a high def video on YouTube the other night when I was also connected via blutooth to my phone to use TabletTalk for text messages.

I was reading in the other thread that almost every blutooth device will exhibit this type of behavior to some extent...but are the numbers I show above what is considered normal and acceptable?

I hope the Asus Rep that frequents these threads will post here on this issue and share a little insight...I wanted to get some blutooth speakers, but am worried they won't work correctly.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dpwhitty11:
Go back a little it and find my post with a screenshot of speedtest. Ran it 8 times, 4 times with bluetooth off and 4 times sending my phone movie via bluetooth. My ping increased by 20ms, but the ul/dl speeds were unaffected.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdeltree:
Just tested my unit. SN:BC0KAS04XXXX and it seems fine to me. I transferred a 57mb file to my SGSII and transferred back to the prime. During both transfers, wifi drop was quite negligible to be honest. A few fluctuations here and there but i wouldn't peg that as a major problem as my SGSII showed the same during the transfers. I picked up my prime on the 2nd of january @ curry's PC world(Yes! Before the release date). I assume it was supposed to be their display unit....but the ignorant attendant sold it to me regardless.

Oh...and by the way, i Used wifi analyser for this operation. You can suggest alternative programs and I will be willing to carry out further tests.

*Edit: My prime is a 32gb grey
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Like mentioned in the other thread, by several users who tested this WIFI AND BT WILL AFFECT EACH OTHER TO SOME DEGREE NO MATTER IF ITS A PHONE OR TABLET. REASON: they on the same frequency band or whatever. some devices might show more of an affect than others. People performed these so called same tests on other different devices AND GUESS WHAT, THEY HAD THE EXACT SAME ISSUE AS THE PRIME..LMFAO.

REPEAT: WIFI AND BT WILL AFFECT EACH OTHER TO SOME DEGREE NO MATTER IF ITS A PHONE OR TABLET. Especially based off of the way you using it to connect to wifi and stream through BT. Some electronic devices are affected more than others. That's why you have people here saying theirs don't work right and others saying it does. both parties tested out and have different results. everybody ddidnt test using exact same brand of electronics or whatever.

Just in case people weren't realizing this ;) now it shouldn't be to the point where using both at same time is unusable. not everyone, from reading several threads n posts, are coming to that conclusion. too many quick to jump the bandwagon and ride someone else's issues and eventually manifesting it with their devices.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ciddy:
Wifi Analyzer will show you the signal strength, not the achievable transfer rate. Do your test again running speedtest. You will likely see noticable and repeatable drops in transfer speeds, while the signal strength (power put out by the router) will obviously stay the same.

I'm experiencing the same drop in throughput on my S2 as on my Prime, down to 3 MBit from 18 MBit, about 85% drop. Didnt get to test it using a headset yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdeltree:
thats speedtest.net right?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Absolutely. Wifi seems to remain connected at the same signal strength, it's just not able to transmit. Which wouldn't seem to make sense if it was interference causing the issue--wouldn't interference cause the signal strength to drop, not just the throughput?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jjdevega:
Got my Prime today from OD. It was a replacement for the one I got at GS. Only issues now is that BT/Wifi turned on while streaming Netflix is terrible. Couldn't watch anything. It kept buffering. Didn't have that problem on my first Prime. Guess its the waiting game once again:/ GPS is none existent even with through my network.

Serial number: BCOKASO5XXXX
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Slrts:
Serial Number: BCOKAS04XXXX

TF 201 Grey 16GB

Received: Dec 23, 2011

Speedtests (Mbps):

Bluetooth off: Ping: 17 DL: 14.62 UL: 4.04

Bluetooth on: Ping: 19 DL: 12.23 UL: 4.01

Bluetooth on and transferring: Ping: 32 DL: 2.99 UL: 4.04

So obviously I have this problem too, upload speeds were unaffected though.

GPS doesn't work at all either.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Beards:
How to check Serial Numbers

In case anyone has not noticed, if you pick up your Prime direct from a seller or over the telephone you can check which version you have without taking the Prime out of the box.

Simply turn the box upside down and you will find the serial sticker on the box.

At least this was the case with the original TF101 where certain models had issues.

I clearly remember when I rang to order my TF101 I asked the seller to read out to me the first eight digits serial number. If it did not begin with a certain serial I would then have told him "No, not that one. Please check for serial xxx". If the seller did not have any I would not have placed the order.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ParaTr00per:
i don't see any corealtion for speedtest and bluetooth on/off. i tested few times today, one time there is 3Mb/s up/down, another time there is 8Mb/s up/down. one time there was 20Mb/s down and 30Mb/s up

here is screenshot for best result https://photos-1.dropbox.com/i/xl/nmhZuvERaSl1cVS7KCUMsKkEwqJF8JcOhIJneOQ3tD8/9711604/1326448800/7196e13/Screenshot_2012-01-12-11-46-18.png :)

device serial number is BCOKAS041xxx, it's WW SKU.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] setite:
Thanks for the report of the GPS. I noticed that mine too has completely useless GPS. It has been unable to ever lock enough satellites to get a location.

Though in real world, my WiFi is pretty much fine if BT is off. Build and everything else is great.

EDIT: Everyone. The best way to test is to find a BT A2DP headset, and play netflix with BT on and playing through the headset. Depending on your connection netflix will start buffering within 5 minutes and start buffering more than it is playing. Then video will either fail altogether, or eventually continue streaming and super crappy quality. That is the issue for the bad primes. On my TF101 I get say 15-25mbps down with BT off. WIth BT on and streaming its like 7-10mbps. On the prime the speeds get slower and slower and slower. So streaming netflix doesn't work. I see some people in this thread get that, and some don't. It takes 15 minutes max to test this guys, please try and do it right. Also, if you don't have a BT headset.. GET ONE!! You should be ashamed of yourselves for not having a single pair of wireless headphones :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blackinjun:
how are you testing on an N network when we do not have a 5ghz radio in the prime?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] parker7:
I thought it had N. The specs i read are as follows;

Networking

WLAN: 802.11 b/g/n

Bluetooth 2.1+EDR

I though the N was for this. I don't know much about wifi, so i could mean something else. I'm interested to here the answer, I hope we do have N.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] csmall:
N can operate on two frequencies or what they call dual band. The prime only allows for one of these frequencies.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Jarbings:
All tablets on the market max out at 75 MBit so you cannot comare to the 350 your PC may get as it will max out at 450 MBit. Also the PCs always have 3 antennas if they reach 450 MBits. The TF201 seems to have two antennas but is limited to 75 MBit. I think they are not really using the second antenna yet in the software. Also the BT sw seems to stink, as Wifi is much better with BT turned off.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
Can you please ask this helpful Engineer if the freeze/locking issue effecting roughly 10% of Primes is going to be fixed with software patch or should I stop waiting around and send it in for RMA.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Can someone summarize what's the serial number range for "good" Primes and what's the serial number range for "bad" Primes. Because I still haven't seen a correlation... It seems like many of the people who say their BT/wifi combo is "fine" are only turning BT on and/or pairing with something, not actually testing with data actually streaming over BT. So, I just can't see anyone who's in a specific serial number range and has no problem whatsoever.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] PaulVulcan:
As far as I know there are only two versions, those that begin with BB and those that start with BC.

The BB are the earlier models and had a large amount of errors.

Those with BC are the latest version and it would seem half the users report great results whilst the other half still have issues.

I think although there is an improvement it's still dependant upon how you generally use the Prime.

i.e. use the Prime close to a router and there's little to no difference but as you go further away the signal soon starts to drop.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
That's my point: on both of my current BC's, and the BC I previously returned, I have the BT/wifi issue discussed in this thread. Clearly have it--stream audio over BT (not just turn on/pair BT), the Internet connection slows down to around 500kbps and then stops completely, only to recover when I stop streaming over BT.

So, I'm pretty convinced that there aren't Primes that don't have the issue, but rather people who aren't testing the same way. I hate to be "that guy" who says "they all have it!!!", but in this case I think it's a valid conclusion.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
I've been saying this for a while in a number of threads. I'm positive this is the case.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] soulctcher:
What app can I use to monitor the wifi speed as I'm streaming the audio to my Motorola S9-HD headset? I can test this at home. (I left my headset at home, so I can't do it now.)

I have one that starts with a serial # of BCOKAS02****, so perhaps I can see if I'm having that issue on my model.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kodess:
It depends, wireless-N and bluetooth interfere... ALWAYS.

Now, because we have a full aluminum back, it amplifies the interferance.

And there are multiple batches, it was pretty obvious from the start....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
SpeedTest. Just start streaming, then run SpeedTest. You should see wifi VERY much slower than if you run SpeedTest when you're not streaming over BT. Most likely, you'll eventually have Internet connectivity stop altogether and SpeedTest will return a network error.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] soulctcher:
Ok...hopefully I'll get a chance to do this tonight.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Beards:
Yes, agree with all the comments.

I too have been saying at this stage it doesn't really matter which version you have, it's the way you use it which is the underlining factor.

That could be either from other hardware performance levels (routers, Bluetooth equipment, etc.) or software installed.

No two Primes will operate the same so it's wrong to assume version A will be different to version B purely because it has a different serial number.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thisisriki:
Sign Petition to Asus

Go to Change.org and search Fix or Replace Transformer Prime Model TF-201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nyijedi:
In the case of the Prime, it's not limited to wireless N. I set my router to wireless g only (since for some reason, my Prime gets faster speeds with g only as opposed to a/b/g/n), and my WiFi comes to a screeching stop when streaming audio via bluetooth (e.g., 10 Mbps on WiFi when not streaming via BT, 0.2 Mbps on WiFi when streaming BT).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] liderbug:
So what should I do?

Our Prime showed up 12/29 (BB) - (our dsl is 20meg (ha) nom. 15meg) The Wifi speed test starts out at 1.5, climbs to 7 then 6 then 5 they 4 then 0 .... then 45 (wtf) then test end. results 5.2 (or less). Almost like something is getting hot. And have been unable to pair the BT.

But for everything else love-love-love. So return it to BB & refund? Return it and wait for the 700 (with again a low serial number - the never-ending-story)? Try to exchange for a newer 201 that works? But then the 201 and the 700 are again MIA.

Also - "Dear ASUS, I charger get hotter than L. What do we do?". ... "hello?" ... "Anybody home?"

So there's a problem - how do we get it fixed?

Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Regardless if this affects all Primes or not, not everyone will use BT/wifi the way y'all are testing it. Like me for example. I don't need any BT headphones or speakers to connect while streaming wifi movie. The sound quality of the Prime in addition to the Volume+ app is amazing and more than loud enough. Actually too loud at times. Plus as this affects all electronic devices across the board the results will vary on how its affecting the user. If I'm more concerned about sound quality, ill just use a plug in one which will always be superior to wireless BT ones. Hopefully more updates will lower the affect its having on some users. There's no way to signals on the same frequency won't affect each other some how. only thing that can be done is to minimize how much its affecting each other.

Plus some people here not even testing right trying to compare computer BT. that normally has 3 antennas to tablets. Computer is rated for higher quality or faster stream rates anyways.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 3rdamention:
I have the "Serial Number Unknown" issue, and cannot update my prime. I also appear to have a different Serial Number than most.

BCOKAS12****

I have yet to see a Serial Number, at least in this forum, that Didn't follow the "...KAS" with a Zero. It appear most are BCOKAS0****.

Mine has a 1 after the "...KAS"

Also, I have a basically non existent GPS, that only pulled 2 satellites WITH Wifi Assist on while standing in my yard holding it in the air. Wifi appears to work good enough for me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ramtripper:
http://www.change.org/petitions/jon...-fix-or-replace-transformer-prime-model-tf201

Sign the petition if something's wrong with your TP, we have a little under 700 people now. It's enough that Asus at least understands there are serious problems and does something to address them.

By enough, I mean that's more than what they're doing now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theizzardking:
i would imagine those digits turn over as the production line gets deeper, you're just the first person to receive a s1xxx number as the guy before you had s09999 , i think that's why we're using serial numbers is to refute the claim that there's two batches of primes one being bad and the other being supposedly bad, from what i'm seeing here all of them seem to have problems...when did you recive your tablet? if you don't mind me asking? it will help to understand the numbering system they used, it appeared at first that there truly could have been to batches with a bbokea and a bcokea prefix to the serial number but people are reporting issues with those as well, so who knows what's really going on here, i tend to think it's just a average radio with alot of types of interference going on around it causing it to misbehave, i.e. bad design that said, doesn't effect me because of the way i use my device, only time i use bt is playing emu's and on the plane, so no wifi needed in either case. i would like to know it works though if i ever do need it..... good luck guys
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 3rdamention:
I ordered mine the 5th From BestBuy.com and got it on the 10th.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] soulctcher:
Confirmed on mine. My download speed dropped to about 1/3rd what it was when I wasn't using the headset...upload dropped to about 1/2.

I'm using a Motorola S9-HD stereo bluetooth headset and I'm connected at wireless N standard.

I do not see this much dropoff on my iPhone 4 when using both wifi and the headset...this is quite a difference.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cyrax2768:
Just watched an entire movie on Netflix with my BT headphones paired to my Prime and audio streaming through them and i noticed no issues. Movie didn't skip or lag once. After i opened up Spotify and started streaming music while on the BT headset and then ran SpeedTest. I did notice the speeds weren't as high when I was just connected to WIFI alone but it wasn't anything to complain about. I then tried the same tests through my phone on WIFI and with the BT headset connected and the same results occurred. There was a difference in results from SpeedTest but everything streamed and played fine. So i do believe this is the case with all BT and WIFI devices connected to eachother but being that this is a brand new device everyone is going to analyze every bit of the device and bring up anything they experience. But for this issue i'm going to say it's a little over exaggerated but that's my opinion and no one else's. Just wanted to report the results I saw. Oh and I have the BC serial number Prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] janduin:
I just got my ICS update, and tested all these things out. Stationary, maps locked on to my GPS location immediately, to within 30 meters. Speedtest app said 36mbps with no Bluetooth on, once paired and running it dropped down to 27mbps first time, 28mbps second, and 29 mbps the third.

I was a little laggy occasionly on 3.2, but I chalked that up to honeycomb. Since ICS, things have been glass smooth.

S/N- BBOKAS06XXXXXX
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cyberguest:
got the same starting SN as yours, did the same test as yours, got the same result as yours.

speed is lower, but i don't really care, still very usable at about 500KB/s (4mb/s), i can count the # of times i've used bluetooth device with my fingers in the past 5 years.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cmat1120:
So i just got done comparing my TP and Evo3D and it turns out my Evo3d takes just as much of a hit when using bluetooth as my prime plus my prime does much better when both devices have Bluetooth turned off. But i must say i am surprised by the amount it drops. For me it was from 15-18mbps to 3-5mbps.

Also as far as real world use i have tried watching Netflix while using Bluetooth speaker and it worked fine(other than audio not matching video perfectly because of Bluetooth speed).

My serial (if it helps) is: BCOKAS01XXXX
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MaZeLe:
These are the results of my ATP, bought it last Tuesday. Received the ICS update Thursday, which made the device much smoother.

TF201 Grey 32GB BCOKAS1600xx.

Good GPS --> lock within 30 seconds, 5 satellites. Moves up to about 9 satellites in 2 minutes

Good WiFi --> max of my internet speeds (12000kbps down, 1500 kbps up) distance from Wireless N router: 4 meters. I have to accespoints in my house, so the difference is never larger then 5 meters.

BT --> not tested

Screen --> A slight bleed in the right corner. Only noticeable at startup. No stuck or death pixels.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lorthirk:
Bought in the Netherlands? This could be important for European Primes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] erisi:
Let's see if pad ec number is the key

I have a TF201 that has no GPS capability at all and hangs wifi after streaming BT for about 3-5 minutes (I used a program on my cell phone to stream GPS data to the TF201)

The serial number starts with BCOKAS03...

With ICS installed, look at "about tablet" and the scroll down and find "Pad EC version".

Mine says TF201-PAD-0214.

To the person who said the ASUS support person recommended returning yours for a "better hardware" version, who did you contact and how did you contact them?

ps: I also wrote a letter to the CEO saying that not delivering on a feature to set to those who ordered it before the advertizing changed is fraudulent and that they could make a lot of poeple happy if they replace the back cover with the version being used for the TF700 (since the basic hardware layout is probably identical)

Gene
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] setite:
This just means that you are proof that not all Primes are broken. I can't get through more than 15 minutes of netflix. After 5 minutes it starts buffering alot and looking like crap. On the TF101 or on the TF201 without BT Netflix looks damn near HD. It is a fact that BT and wifi slow each other down. But on a proper device even with BT you should be able to sustain a ~7Mbit speed.

Though I don't agree with your conclusion I appreciate you posting positive results. There is hope yet for the TF201. I shipped mine back to ASUS today. They will be shipping me a replacement in a day or two.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Yakandu:
well it seems its all about the back case doing faraday jail...

has someone tested wifi gps and bt without the case?

maybe any homemade solution in the future?

nothing about a homemade solutions said yet... thats weird on this forum xd

PD: there are also several "unnoficial spare parts" webpages on wich we are used to buy... cases, mods batteryes and that stuff, im sure they will make a plastic back case... i hope..

also soldering or sticking the WIFI antenna to the aluminium ase should fix the problem... we all, back in time, sticked out radios antenna to our aluminnium windows to get better audio.. or not? xD

or maybe im brainfarting like a boss? (i know my english is far from being perfect and my informatic knowdelge is also that far)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hauj0bb:
Champaign 32gb TF201

Serial: BC0KASXXXXXX

I've had my unit for a little over a week now and I've not had any trouble with WIFI, Bluetooth, or GPS (performance is poor, but I have seen it lock satellites).

No screen bleed, but I have ONE stuck/dead pixel (tried dead pixel fixer apps) :(

I'm torn on whether or not to test my luck and send it back for a replacement - I know most places wont take back units with less than 2-3 stuck/dead pixels, but I can claim gps problems (which is true). What do you guys think?