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[Eee Pad Transformer General] Tripsyk:
Motorola Mobility is owned by Google now... the fact that people are upset that the Xoom got the ICS update before the Transformer is a little ridiculous.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ckoadiyn:
To the three posts above thanks for explaining that stuff lol I was going to but decided not to as I felt they should have been able to connect the dots. This info has been all over for a while
[Eee Pad Transformer General] richteralan:
That means nothing.

Remember XOOM ICS update is not general public update. Just a small "selected" users.

---------- Post added at 07:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:02 PM ----------

Probably lost in translation somewhere:

The dock probably will receive an update to make it work better with ICS.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] pierut:
i'll just be happy when it is here. my tf can wait for it too..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] superGOAT:
For the record, Google owning Motorola doesn't have anything to do with the xoom getting ics. The xoom (just like the nexus line) is, at least was, the deloper device. Dev devices always get the ota first. No reason to be annoyed. Being jealous is another thing though :-)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] goodintentions:
FYI, ICS may be coming sooner than the end of the month.

http://www.facebook.com/asus.n.america?sk=wall&filter=12
[Eee Pad Transformer General] cdon2109:
Will the ICS OTA update be rolled out simultaneously worldwide?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] imitebewrong:
Engadeget also posted a story about Asus North America's facebook response:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/16/asus-eee-pad-transformers-ics-update-currently-awaiting-google/
[Eee Pad Transformer General] No_u:
I hope that it wasn't a mistake once again.. I want ICS now so I can wait for the Android Revolution ROM of it to come out :P
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kaijura:
We still have to wait for it to have a working rooted rom. Unless everyone crazy for it wants to stick with stock...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Unlikely. Different markets have different legal requirements, different testing procedures, different management and review structures, and frankly, different levels of urgency when it comes to updating.

Past updates have never been simultaneous, and I see no reason for ICS to be any different.

Somewhere in Asia (Taiwan or China) usually seems to get the update first, then either the US or other English-speaking countries, then smaller and non English countries trickle in over the following days or weeks...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kp432:
Any themes out there compatible wit Android Revolution HD? Running 2.1.3, would like a blacked out like Blacked Exodus but no reports of working or not with A.R. HD.

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zorachus:
This ROM rocks, my favorite :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] frank21cn:
hey is ARHD 2.1.3 out? ???
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dakota0206:
Yes, on rootzwiki
[Nexus S General] treyweez11:
I just wanted to know if Google releases the ics ota for the nexus s 4g should I just stick with it instead of upgrading fully to Mac daddy galaxy nexus. I hope they release it on the sale date of the GN or before. Just want to hear some thoughts.
[Nexus S General] Esteway.619:
I'm getting the galaxy nexus.
[Nexus S General] treyweez11:
But what if the ota comes before that. Essentially the Nexus S 4g will become a baby galaxy nexus. Oh yeah and CM9! Big tings agwon!
[Nexus S General] Esteway.619:
I already have ics on my nexus s4g. I just want the bigger screen and HD superamoled display ;)
[Nexus S General] Rem3Dy:
The official ota isn't going to make ICS any better. The only thing it will do is add the word official to ICS.
[Nexus S General] treyweez11:
Yeah I get what you guys are saying because I have been flashing ics roms all week. But doesn't Google do a better job at building ics and optimization
[Nexus S General] louderstill:
being paid to do something you enjoy doesnt necessarily make you better at it...
[Nexus S General] rican408:
from my experience stock roms run the best. i always have some kind of issue that brings me back to stock. i would love an official ics build soon.
[Nexus S General] supralover72:
I agree with this, but the amount of resources and testing at google's disposal far outweighs that of your average rom builder.
[Nexus S General] oldblue910:
Not only that, but I'm positive that Google has specification and performance information on the phone's hardware that the average ROM developer will simply never have. I agree, custom ROMs are fun to play with, but for everyday use, you'll never beat a stock ROM.
[Nexus S General] louderstill:
;)

so....

their rollout stopped

and the rom avalanche started

hmmmm

...you are

obviously correct tho...

and i'm sure they havnt looked at any

of the code floating around here
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
the official ICS for our phone has been out for months... OP needs to catch up on the old news :p
[Nexus S General] treyweez11:
lol when the official ics gets here we will have nothing to look forward to lol.
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
just install it, you'll like it

it's on the Stickies
[Nexus S General] treyweez11:
Oh yeah, btw this cm9 with the matrix kernel is graaaaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy
[Nexus S General] bozzykid:
By months, you mean less than a month. And there is no official ICS for the NS 4G.
[Nexus S General] AllGamer:
LOL :D well i was thinking it was released last year ;)

but technically it's only 5 days short to a month

that's not stable enough for my taste yet

stock original ICS from google is currently running better
[Nexus S General] stkiswr:
I'm on kang 15 and steve.garons latest kernel. You and I have very different opinions of stable. Mine is top notch. No hiccups. If u want to wait, by all means, I was...then broke down and the current roms are fantastic.

It takes less than 5mins to root, make a backup, copy that backup yo PC, then unlock boot loader and flash a new rom. If u don't like it, there always that backup you can restore. Too easy to sit around and complain when there are alternatives
[Nexus S General] hp420:
I'm always finding things that don't work on custom kernels and it drives me insane!! I'll try to show someone something cool, and it takes me 15 minutes just to get it working, then I just look stupid because the rom I have isn't compatible with ___, or it's missing ___ (fill in the blank)

Yeah, they are fun to play with, and it's nice to have the cool mods & tweaks that come with them, but when you want your phone to "just work" then there's nothing better than a nice stable official rom that does everything you throw at it. speed & extra performance is great, but stability and compatibility outweigh those every single time, imho ;)
[Nexus S General] stkiswr:
I can't help but agree that ota is most stable But I feel the same way as you. Stability first. Yet I myself am not suffering from any issue. I find my self surround by multiple galaxy nexus owners daily and I am showing them stuff w my oG. Vice versa, just throwing it out there. I have been lucky when I have been flashing phones, many many manyphones hahaha. They all take well to me. I hate a screwed up glitchy phone
[Nexus S General] Bruce lee roy:
pa bugless seemed more stable than stock to me.
[Nexus S General] treyweez11:
Amen
[Nexus S General] oldblue910:
Give this man a cookie!
[General Questions and Answers] Shm33g:
Can anybody tell me the difference between the two LCD density settings, ro.sf.lcd_density and qemu.sf.lcd_density?

I use Blade Buddy to alter LCD density and I was wondering why there are two separate settings, one of which doesn't appear to do anything.

Please and thank-you.

Shmeeg.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] samstables:
I wonder how it is on battery life. I like the SIM protection / anti theft bits so might try it on my Streak while waiting for the Sammy Note to arrive...
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] MikuSE610:
Hogs battery on my S2, stock XWLA4 rooted. Wonder what's wrong. Uninstalled until update arrives.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] Anderson2:
One problem I encountered: it blocked all my attempts to root my phone (LG Optima Q) until I uninstalled it. Probably part of it security protection. Once it was uninstalled the phone was rooted with no difficulty.
[Streak 5 Themes and Apps] europeancity:
well, that makes perfect sense; the "rooting" process is just a security exploitation even if with legitimate aims. However it was detected, good for the SW.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jzen:
Not sure it this has been talked about yet or not but I just found out about it messing around in the options...

For me turning this option on (default it was unchecked) greatly improved speed (scrolling) in Netflix and in the market. :)
[Epic 4G General] LORDFIRE00:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=9639
[Epic 4G General] LORDFIRE00:
http://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=355

"about LTE TECHNOLOGY"
[Epic 4G General] stilesja:
But once they have migrated boost customers to cdma the 800mhz iden spectrum will be used for lte which should be pretty great for building penetration.
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
For now......
[Epic 4G General] dtugg:
So if Sprint latter switches to 800mhz, would existing 1900mhz LTE phones be able to take advantage?
[Epic 4G General] Gavisann:
If the radio supports both frequencies.

Send from my SPH-D700 (Samsung Epic 4G)
[Epic 4G General] ErantyInt:
From what I heard, they were actually aquisitioning the 800MHz band from their Nextel networks, not Boost.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Boost and nextel both use iden and must be assimilated.

Sent from The Borg
[Epic 4G General] latindor17:
Is a switch fom 2500Mhz (wimax) a big of enough difference to 1900Mhz (LTE)? Also i dont think 800Mhz is really a good thing, at least for sprint, that means they have to build more towers because lower frequencies dont travel as far.
[Epic 4G General] ErantyInt:
Sprint already has a buttload of 800MHz towers. Will probably build more.
[Epic 4G General] a454nova:
Lower the frequency the further it travels guys... :rolleyes:

Low frequency means longer wavelength.

Longer wavelengths can diffract around obstacles, through passageways and even penetrate into building easier.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Then what's the advantage of higher frequencies? I know there's one, but I can't remember.
[Epic 4G General] zman519:
Google RF propagation.

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
It's cheaper and more abundant making it faster.

So lets say you get 2mbps of speed for every 2mhz of spectrum.

To avoid confusion we'll call 1900mhz band spectrum, PCS, and 800mhz band spectrum, SMR.

PCS =1900mhz range. SMR =800mhz range.

SMR can have twice the coverage radius compared to PCS band spectrum.

You have $3 billion to spend on spectrum. You can buy PCS band spectrum at $100million per mhz and SMR band spectrum at $500 million per mhz. Which do you buy?

It takes 10mhz to get 10mbps of speed which is $1billion worth of PCS band spectrum or $5 billion (out of budget) worth of SMR band to make a 10mbps network.

Which way would you go? It really depends on your target market but in general you want to appeal to both urban city dwellers as well as rural communities.

You could go all PCS band for the absolute max speed at the cost of poorer coverage or all SMR band for better coverage at the cost of much lower speed; but which is best?

I would say neither, buy a combination to satisfy both demands. Sure you may not get the max speed but you give customers a reasonably fast speed in urban areas and better coverage at a lower speed for rural and fringe areas. Which one do you prioritize? If your main target market is rural areas then get more of the SMR spectrum. If your target is urban then buy more PCS.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Double post, smh

Edit: might as well use it,

I think this would make a great tower defense game. You plant as many low frequency towers in the area as possible to cover it when their are fewer enemies (customers) then add high frequency coverage in then areas more enemies go. As the town grows in population you have to add and manage more towers to keep the people happy (raising your money for more towers and score).
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7qoc3_r-kelly-real-talk_music

Real talk.
[Epic 4G General] ericdabbs:
You are wrong. The lower the frequency the longer the wavelength is which means it can travel farther. Why do you think Verizon's LTE is so successful? It is because Verizon's LTE is deployed on 700 Mhz which can travel really far. Lets not forget that the 700 Mhz was used for OTA analog TV so you know it had to have had great propagation for it to be viable. Clearwire uses 2500 Mhz which has short coverage but good capacity. However Clearwire would need to build several times more towers than Verizon.

Long story short the 14 Mhz of 800 Mhz spectrum that Sprint obtained from Nextel will do wonders for Sprint. Not only can Sprint put LTE at 800 Mhz for better in building penetration but Sprint can move their voice on 800 Mhz too for more coverage.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
When they start using both 800 and 1900, we'll have great speed and coverage.
[Epic 4G General] DroidApprentice:
I hope they'll be forward-thinking enough to allow these LTE phone radios to work on all the future available bands. Given the profit drive of the mobile industry though, that would come as a surprise. I guess we need a spec sheet or someone to do a teardown of those first LTE phones to confirm.
[Epic 4G General] pixlz:
so, theres a buttload of 2.5 spectrum. a tiny amount of 1900 mhz, and a decent amount of 800.

when network vision is properly implemented... pending the phones radios work proper like... prolly like a year or two from now.

Person A: i'm outside, poor building penetration... look my phone is closest to a tower, i am on the 2.5 spectrum.

Person B: i'm inside a building, and the 2.5 spectrum isn't so great... lookie that, i've seamlessly on the 800mhz spectrum.

the multiple spectrums will just mean less lagg, more capacity, seamless switching, good speed, little congestion. providing the radios work properly.

i foresee in sprints future also implementing a Dish Network partnership spectrum/tower share too, now that the Lightsquared deal completely fell through. It'll help secure them in the spectrum game and Dish Network easy spread through towers.

edit: like verizon though, the initial phones may not be roaming lte friendly, equipped with all necessary frequencies. i'm not expecting the phones this year to be friendly with all potential towers. it could just be 1900 mhz first. phones a couple years from now could be 3-4 sprint lte spectrums + potential verizon/at&t roaming spectrums. we shall have to see.

~le poof~
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Fixed
[Epic 4G General] zorb750:
Are you high? Lower frequencies travel the same distance if clear out in the open. When it comes to brush, vegetation, building, and ground penetration, lower frequencies have a distinct advantage.
[Epic 4G General] pixlz:
I was pretty sure I had it right in my post, but maybe I did mess up. The current problem with nextel is that the idens 800mhz network is just outdated tdma technology. Less capacity, and the towers didn't handle it well. Hence the shrinking signal during the boost boom unless towers got upgraded. Not spectrum related I didn't think. On LTE I thought it was plenty of spectrum... I should look up how many blocks sprint/moto has. I could be slightly misinformed on this one.

Edit: it seems they operate in 806-824(18mhz block) and 851-869(18mhz block) mhz range. So smaller than I realized but still not shabby at all. As it'll all be dedicated supposedly in 2013, its still a decent amount.

Sprint is using a portion of this for the cdma 1x advanced network(new walkie talkie).

The current LTE buildout on 1900, until sprint moves off cdma is only getting a few dedicated leftover blocks of un-used spectrum. So a tiny amount(5x5mhz blocks) until sprint fully shifts off of cdma. That'll be a slow shift as people slowly migrate and all phones become lte(like verizons already doing/announced). When more spectrum blocks free up capacity wise, they'll switch over till sprints fully VoLTE. So tiny until large.

Edit: I did see sprint has a total of up to 35mhz on 1900mhz.

It make the holdings roughly overall equivellant to the 800mhz holdings.

Also clearwire/sprint has combined 10x10mhz, a total of 100mhz with up to 130mhz total in some markets. Yowzer.

To note, lte-advanced needs about 20mhz of dedicated frequency to properly operate(though not all in one block).
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
Tldr for now but, Sprint has more than 100mhz through clearwire, ~40 mhz in PCS blocks A and B, with another 10mhz in the G block. Sprint only has a mere 14mhz in the 800mhz esmr band.

So. 2.5ghz most, 1900 second, 800 third.

Edit: where did you get your info on the esmr 800 band?
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
You can't make blanket statements about what Sprint has in the PCS band. It varries from market to market.
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
I can but it doesnt make them true.

Even so, the PCS G block is 10mhz nationwide the other bands had a "~" in front of it meaning i estimated.

Why so angry?
[Epic 4G General] .Elite_The_King.:
Lower frequency means longer wavelength, which in turns means better signal propagation and building penetration.:eek:
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
Rock on with your bad self then. People will soon just ignore the blabber...
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
I was just joking jeez.

You post a lot of useful stuff and I was trying to be helpful as well. Can't we all just be friends?
[Epic 4G General] sollord:
800MHz LTE isnt coming anytime soon Sprint is moving CDMA to 800MHz first so they can expand 3G coverage as they convert more of the 1900MHz bands to LTE. It would be kinda of odd to have LTE cover more area then your CDMA network can I think
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
No, that would require at least one person in the party to be nice, and last time I checked, that was punishable by death in the forum interwebz world...
[Epic 4G General] lynyrd65:
I feel like Sprint will decomission CDMA after most of their customers have moved to VoLTE phones.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattwilkinson11:
I got a USB OTG cable but when i plug it in nothing happens. it looks all confusing, I am running build 17 of Team EOS ICS. What do i do?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slonn:
Try downloading/running one of the apps that mount external USB drives.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattwilkinson11:
I have tried about 3 of them but nothing happens.

Is there a certain format it needs to be ? (Fat32) etc.

Do i need a special kernel?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rccal:
Which cable did you buy? I'm about to buy an OTG cable as well.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattwilkinson11:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/260924502107?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juancarlos2992:
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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] saladbowl831:
Running ICScrewD 1.6.2 currently but I noticed this on UnNamed 2.2.1 (latest) and both prior updates on both roms. When I'm on a phone call I'm getting an echo of my own voice. I've factory reset and reflashed 3 times.

Any ideas? Lovin this phone and roms but this is driving me crazy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gandalf21502:
Having the same issue with ICScrewD 1.6.2. Noice suppression is turned off and that is what is 'suppose' to be causing it. Supposed to to be fixed in 1.7.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Boobie Watcher:
every rom ive tried had it, i think it was like that on stock....i dont hear myself, but people on the other end say it has a bad echo.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] iqak:
I have heard, but cannot confirm, that some cases can cause this echo.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] brent8577:
your phone is tapped. they are listening! ;p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] retnuh:
When a friend of mine is using his bluetooth earpiece, I hear my voice echoing. When he turns off his earpiece, the echoing stops.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Red5:
Move out of the cave.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mj0528:
Not exactly impressed with call quality. Weird to make a kick ass device but when it comes down to the major function of the device, its lacking big time!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
Don't know if this ever happens to you guys but on my cases, several times, when I was talking with my friend, suddenly high-pitch hiss came then I heard strange voice (of course, not my friend on the other end), sounded like Arabic (couldn't confirm though), lasted for around 10 or 15 seconds then gone, my friend was back on.

Weird!

Was terrorists listening to my conversation? :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nizda1:
I've always had excellent voice audio on this phone and a good amount using a bt headset. However since the 2.3.6 update no matter what rom I use Im hearing that echoing more and more. Noise suppression on or off same echo. Between this and the bt hid being messed up I'm gonna switch back to unnamed 1.3.2 worked flawless for awhile for me

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mj0528:
My replacement should be here soon! I sure hope its different or this phone is going on Craigslist
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AcmeWidgets:
It's more than likely not your phone. I've had echoing on calls with EVERY phone I have owned (Blackberry Bold 9700, 3 different Iphones 2g,3g,3gs, Tmobile Shadow, Motorola Razr, and a couple of others I can't remember ) I've looked into this issue. I got tired of being told a hundred different answers. From my research the best I can find is two things.

1. Just a glitch in the cell your in.

2. It actually could be the case on the phone of the person you are talking to.

It's actually been the best on my SGS2. It has only happened once.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] DJSLINKARD:
ive experienced the echo. its completely random but i have noticed that it does it more often when i am using headphones to talk rather than just holding the phone up to my ear.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] GalaxyMaster:
I found this on the i9100 forum. Possibly an issue with our devices also.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1441510
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] saladbowl831:
That sux. I'll probably end up filing a claim with squaretrade when Galaxy S III is available and get paid out for this one
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] fajhaj:
In my case it happens when I talk to my girlfriend who has the iPhone 4S. Worth to note, when you are talking to somebody while laying on a bed and holding your phone upside down (the headphone jack faces the floor and micro usb side faces the ceiling) the echo appears and/or your voice gets lowered.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] k1ska:
Guys, is the microphone near the headphone jack covered? If so, that causes echo.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Overgloc:
Have yall try different Modem? Have no issue here. Had the same issue with my old Capitvate and fixed by changing Modem.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] saladbowl831:
Happens with the case n without. Tried KK6 and HK7. Will try all the modems and see if it solved the problem. Seems to be more noticeable when I'm talking to somebody on a att iPhone 4s