yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
I not been in posession of a HTC Ville but have seen screens in various magazine, websites etc, yeah they have no intentions of releasing versions of ICS, but unfortunately, leaked copies have been released, to many forums, reps, testers, Im merely pointing out what I have read, memos from PR department, circulated to Reps, Sales and other departments, obviously, just like this forum, there is a huge demand for release dates, memos note that release will be by 26/01/2012, and final release internally to reps, HTC employees in the UK was 10/01/2012 and what the HTC rep was using was either a finished rom or a very very *close to release* version, i suspect it was the final release, every problem what has been outlined in the dev forum has been rectified.

anyway thank you for your rom in the dev forum, its very good, also a long long time fan of villainrom

*WOO....Just seen Im famous....on the HTC facebook page* lol
[HTC Sensation] darkwildchild79:
@biggary

like the information, and i was wondering is there anyway of getting a picture of the system spec to shut up some of these people who spend most of there boring life, talking about other people info are fake.

from your information, i believe you are on the same network as mind, do you know if the bootloader will be locked or unlocked????, i know it might be a stupid question but, but questions are made to be answered.

Also the phone i have is stock, not too sure about unlocking it right now, just wondering, when ics comes out, would it make all the standard sensation 1.2ghz boost up to 1.5ghz like the XE or would still be the same, since i been told that the cpu underclock was locked in the kernel??? and ICS will come with a new kernel????

when you get time i would be great to hear your feedback :):)
[HTC Sensation] mathelize:
Yeah, it's stable. I haven't had any reboots since I installed the rom on my phone (1.5GHZ) and my partners (1.2GHZ)
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
@mathelize, you are still on ICS beta version, XE and most sensations work pretty well on 1.5ghz

@darkwildchild, I wont be able to post any pictures on XDA of the HTC Devs phone, I am trying to keep the rep out of this, and its his phone, I havent got the final version on my phone (im still running gingerbread).

I didnt check bootloader, but im sure it will either be unlocked, or not long before its unlocked, the XE is 1.5ghz originally, and doesnt need clocking
[HTC Sensation] josephnero:
thank you for the info man.haters can go kill themselves.my brother will be happy to hear this.thanks again

i hope Evo3d will get ICS soon after Sensation
[HTC Sensation] darkwildchild79:
so what i met to say is the original sensation underclock...ie restricted or is that how the core is, since i am a bit confused since it the same chip but different speeds, i heard you can overclock to 1.75ghz on the XE, in other words did HTC do anything to the chip to make it slower.... is it just in the kernel.....can i use a XE kernel on the phone and get the same speed....
[HTC Sensation] xdviper:
Same chips/CPU. In the original Sensation, the kernel is written to clock the cpu @ 1.2ghz, the same for the XE the kernel is written to run @ 1.5ghz.

The original sensation IS underclocked, and the XE isn't

It was underclocked for battery saving purposes and other reasons, hence why the XE also has a larger battery.

Same goes for the HP Touchpad, the wifi only version is 1.2ghz (uses the same cpu as our Sensation) whereas the 3G model is 1.5ghz

Yes we can overclock until 1.7 or 1.8, that's just the limit without raising voltages, etc without damaging the chip.

Just like how desktop CPUs are made, these chips are not all equal though, I may be able to run at 1.7ghz without crashing, but you won't. This is also how Intel or anyone else makes chips, say they manufacture a 3.2ghz chip, that chip doesn't meet the criteria and or isn't stable, they will underclock it and sell it as 2.8ghz
[HTC Sensation] Xxul:
Neither were there so many ppl online :/
[HTC Sensation] dmcb123:
@biggary i think you have defended yourself enough dont worry about others who don't believe you. if you're right you're wrong you're wrong.... life goes on. i believe you because i have no reason not to :)

@shenye love all your videos and obviously cite you as a pretty reliable source but its probably best to wait til biggarie's eta before saying its not true just to save yourself a little but like i said i have a lot of respect for you so im not dissing you at all.

If it happens, it happens. if it doesnt it doesnt, big whoop
[HTC Sensation] shenye:
thing is, when I asked 3 of my HTC contacts about the HTC Turkey troll, they all went "Those dates are definitely fake, it's not gonna be out by the end of January."

I find 3 high ranked sources more reliable than a rep who went into a shop....don't you? </rhetorical>
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
All I can say on this matter, is we both have information from HTC employees, one saying not by the end of January, and my man Says by 26th January, All we can do is sit and wait, All I am saying is that I have read internal memos from HTC, and messed about on the reps XE which was running final ICS release, now, like you said earlier, it could be an even later beta release, as it has later version numbers than we have been leaked already, The rep has also been correct on release dates of various phone release dates/froyo/gingerbread release dates, so I stand by my HTC reps info.

Anyway, for anyone reading this, please do not flame me or shenye, we are sharing information we have, lets just wait and see when it comes.....
[HTC Sensation] Laynee1:
And you joined in 2011... Sorry for off...
[HTC Sensation] jibninjas:
While I don't care to get into when ICS will actually be released, your last statement is not necessarily true. I work in the exotic car industry and have been embarrassed many times when someone leaked X and people high up told me that it is definitely not true so that's what I tell my clients, then I come to find out that it is. Just because someone from the manufacture says something does not mean it is true, often times they are lying about it as to try and keep the "secret"
[HTC Sensation] xdviper:
So when is the projected day or estimated time frame when it'll be released? Would we have to wait for the Vile to be announced before we get ICS final?
[HTC Sensation] thelegendarylegends:
I believe u aye, stuff the haters!!! Tgis guys is just trying to give out info and its upto you if u wanto believe it or nor, anyway weve seen some two leaks so far and the newer one seems to improve, therefore i believe its going out either end of jan or real early feb, guys .... this guy is just tryin to give some information....

sent from my legendary legend
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
This might be the case. Can anyone recall if any HTC phone received Gingerbread before the Sensation came out last year?
[HTC Sensation] nba1341:
The sensation came out in July...? Mytouch4g already had gingerbread...
[HTC Sensation] ags29:
It is incredible to me the amount of attention these kinds of threads get.

There is ALWAYS someone like this claiming they have exclusive insider information and release dates. I'm sure you have nothing but good intentions with letting others know what you *think* you know, but you can definitely rest assured that these dates and predictions you're giving will come, and go.. like they always do.. -_-
[HTC Sensation] capychimp:
Yeah, and the calling people getting more news from a guy and so on, we see it at every major release
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Did it? The Sensation came out in May. It came out in July in the US.
[HTC Sensation] Freshly_Snipes:
Capy

... I didn't know you were part of the family bro...COOOOOOOOL..I am ACS Administrator and Head Editor. Thought I was alone on these parts...Let's do some work.
[HTC Sensation] raddy:
Actually even i don't believe HTC officially releasing Android 4.0 to HTC Sensation via OTA on 26th of January.

HTC may have a final build ready and many of it's employees and store representative may have given access to it.

But as many mobile phone manufacturers, HTC *Should* get a final build ready for sending it to many kinds of validation tests across many organizations and mobile network operators for it to officially release the build to the General Public.

So, people may not need to get exited about HTC having a final build at this point of time it self.

Samsung and Sony Ericsson too may have a final build of Android 4.0 for many of their mobile phones, but Samsung didn't leak the build, and Sony Ericsson officially offered their Android 4.0 builds to the community to speed up the testing process.
[HTC Sensation] Electronic Punk:
Perhaps for branded devices, but why should they have to do it for their own?
[HTC Sensation] rkafka:
I'd expect tons of small bugs to be found during branding process and it is better and cheaper to have one codebase for all branding and default SW. That's why we have to wait till branding will be finished with major operators and than will start rollout (1st unbranded and than branded). Just speculating as others here :)
[HTC Sensation] Electronic Punk:
By that mentality we wouldn't see the patch for months before every single carrier approves it.

Also there is no harm releasing newer patches if bugs are discovered.
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
I dont see why people HERE care at all about carriers getting ICS before they give you an official OTA of it. Who here really plans on waiting AND accepting a carrier version of ICS? You do realize that once HTC drops ICS, there will be a million custom ROMs of it within the month it comes out, right?

S-OFF means you have left your carrier behind. You are a new person with a new life. Enjoy it rather than get into a tizzy over carriers and HTC. You do realize that there will be many AOSP builds once all of it is released right?

Just be patient. There are some really impressive people here that are just dying to build an outstanding ROM for you for free. AND they plan to do it nearly 24 hours a day straight. (Or so it seems...)

Matt
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Actuall S-OFF lets you install custom recovery on bootloader, SuperCID means you leave your carrier behind :)
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Woops...Corrected! But you guys know what I mean. ;)

Matt
[HTC Sensation] G23 Mr Gimp:
In defense of the OP, even if this is just a rumour, being able to spot information from devices a rep is carrying is entirely possible, as I used to get LOADS of information on upcoming handsets and software from our Sony Ericsson and Nokia reps when I was in the industry, and indeed, our T Mobile rep (who was FIT!) gave me my first glimpse of an interesting OS called Android :D
[HTC Sensation] moh0:
Going back to the intentional leaking, it makes perfect sense for a company to be leaking test builds. It allows them to have alpha/beta testers at NO cost to them. I'm sure a lot of companies secretly crowd source. It is a free resource and we know how cheap corporations are.

Now concerning your "I know 3 PR representatives" defense. They are PR representatives! Why would a public relations representative admit to doing such an thing. It would not look good for HTC. PR is there to make the company look good.

And I also don't think the ICS update will be out next week. Carriers just wouldn't have enough time to approve it.
[HTC Sensation] raddy:
Actually mobile network operators are not the only organizations a mobile phone manufacturer sends the mobile phone with final build of a major software update.

Moreover crowd-sourcing is not a cheap corporate practice.

As i have mentioned before, Sony Ericsson officially using crowd sourcing for testing it's unfinished software update of ice cream sandwich.

Even Microsoft uses crowd sourcing to attract feedback for their unfinished PC versions of their operating system and browser.

Because of crowd sourcing, we geeks can get access to a usable version of software few months before general public.

At the same time, Companies get access to a wide scale of testers for free charge for their unfinished software.

General Public receives lesser bugs having version of software.

Crowd sourcing means, everybody wins.
[HTC Sensation] moh0:
That's true but there are those that see crowd sourcing as exploiting a free labor force when these big companies can easily afford to hire paid testers to find bugs. I don't really know what the stance on crowd sourcing is in industry but I'm sure a lot of companies wouldn't advertise the fact that they got help with their code from XDA users.
[HTC Sensation] keinenplandavon:
True... true... but there are subforums in here in which things are much worse. Overly moderated, threads closed and deleted just for a piece of sh** or... Galaxy Note for example. A question asked and click. Deleted or moved. Can't find (at least I can't find) any stuff in there in time.

Such threads like in diamond pro "all q&a in one thread with bazillions of pages" is plain useless. Just my five cents. Or comments like "i want this" - "yeah me too" - "i'll test it. Some day" ...pretty useless. I sometimes wished xda was on good old Usenet.

Anyhow, thanks for the existence of this site, as community grows bigger the amount of newbies, rtfm-ignorance, search-ignorers, netiquette... You all know what I mean.

And I am in for the official final ICS ROM as well. Time will show. Can't wait but I am sure I have to. Bye.

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
[HTC Sensation] vseslija:
Just a little translation for the rest of us.

When he says FIT he didn't mean that she goes to the gym every day he was referring to a hot looking sexy female.
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
Please read first post........post will now be closed by moderators
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
That is great news, thanks for sharing it with us :)
[HTC Sensation] dorenberg:
Exciting. Hopefully it is true!
[HTC Sensation] kwbr:
Great news, let that rom come :D
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
@stroobach, this was from a HTC person, not a network employee, the look of the rom is not much different to the 3.5 leaks in the dev forum, i was only given a minute or so with the phone, infact it looks very similar to insert coins ICS version, like i said, all the memos said was ICS for xe/xl/sensation, didnt say europe but presumably is for europe, what i saw of the phone was.... the lockscreen....very smooth, he showed me face recognition, the smooth settings menu, and was running lets golf 3 and fruit ninja puss in boots on it, other than that, i dont know more.... but it looked super smooth
[HTC Sensation] dmcb123:
Did it have any of the stock theme on it? anywhere?
[HTC Sensation] Pinepig:
I'm running a ICS rom right now and the phone is showing after 1 day and three hours 73% left, light use with 49 minutes of voice calls. Last time I ran for three days without plugging it in. You're gonna like ICS.
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Wow, awesome. Did you get a chance to look at the kernel version? Is it the same as the one in the leaks?
[HTC Sensation] Freshly_Snipes:
Confirmed pretty much. HTC Sensation 4G update rolling out in January http://www.tmonews.com/2012/01/htc-turkish-facebook-page-posts-details-for-ice-cream-sandwich-rollout/
[HTC Sensation] sarkar_007:
Thats awesome battery life! Are you using the stock HTC battery or the Anker 1900mAh one?
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
The original soruce, Pocket Now, said it's fake.

http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-turkey-posts-details-of-ice-cream-sandwich-updates
[HTC Sensation] Euroman28:
Well,

I have been using my HTC Sensation since the summer and having gotten use to carrying the charger in my pocket and stealing power where I can get it ;)

but seriously better battery-life would be really nice. With the current stock-rom and with 3G, GPS and Google Location services, disabled. My HTC Sensation dies after 10 hours.

Will ICS seriously change this?

I have heard that ICS will active the second core in the phones cpu? Is this true?

Any other features ICS will activate? Like hidden memory, etc?
[HTC Sensation] dislplin01:
I find the performance and layout to be much better there are a few things I need to get used to but for the most part I thinks it's the little improvements here and there with Ui that I really like and the smoothness i really love it with sense 3.5 and without it just stock ICS

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4g with Beats Audio
[HTC Sensation] Duncb:
For what its worth, since getting the large Anker battery I've basically never had to worry about the battery. Apart from the first day of a new rom flash (where you can pretty much guarantee the battery will drain quick), I cant remember the last time I was out of juice. This has been the same for GB and ICS too
[HTC Sensation] animaleyes76:
So did HTC UK on their FB page.
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
The HTC person rang our shop today, I asked about the theme included, its called halo/holo??? still on for a release within two weeks, he still says the battery is bad (he is using a XE like me), he uses a anker battery like me too, he also says someone at HTC has leaked the final copy of ICS so there maybe a copy out there, he reads XDA too and before he had a ICS rom, he (and many others) were using the virtuous ICS rom (as many of the reps and employees dont like sense) thats all i can say, i asked about a TMOUS version, but he says thats not his department.....
[HTC Sensation] Arthur Hucksake:
After initially being wow'd by Sense i'm now longing to be shot of it.

If HTC released a stock google looking ROM, I would be all over it.
[HTC Sensation] ajay83:
Thanks for the update guys :)

Just wondered....

I debranded my o2 stock rom of 1.50.206.1, ran custom roms for a while and got bored.

Ive now gone back to S-ON but with htc's release of 1.50.401.1

I should now receive updates direct right?....instead of o2 messing about with it 1st?
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
Unfortunately, ICS finished release will have sense, as far as I know its 3.5, i wish too that HTC would release a non-sense rom, well thats a job for our great devs
[HTC Sensation] gwingzero:
If HTC really wanted to be an awesome phone company (or any of them really) they would give you an option upon first boot. Vanilla Android or HTC Sense. Simple as that. Choice is the main reason most Android users choose Android over iOS.

Just sayin... ^_^
[HTC Sensation] dislplin01:
Just use a senseless ROM

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4g with Beats Audio
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Sense is HTC's "thing". They wont give that up because it is what makes them different. For the majority of phone buyers, they like all the random widgets and whatnot that Sense brings. They arent concerned with battery life and RAM.

Matt
[HTC Sensation] kingston73:
Am I the only one who thinks ICS is ugly?? I'm in no hurry for an update unless somebody can give me some very compelling reasons for it.
[HTC Sensation] k0zmic:
I've seen other posts from people who aren't too keen on it either.

After only using ICS for a week I like a lot of things. Particularly the improved Voice Search and Swipe away notifications. Having Bookmarks sync from Chrome is also particularly nice.
[HTC Sensation] killingflowers:
I made a claim off my insurance after my phone jumped out of my pocket and into the loo recently.

It was a sensation xe, with o2 branding on it (splash screen, some apps etc)... The battery was atrocious; central use lasting roughly about 10/12 hours.

When I received the brand new xe from my claim, there was no sign of the o2 branding... just Htc. The battery has doubled (I had it going for 21 hours WITH wifi, GPS, data; 20 minute video call, about an hour of voice calls, about 2 hours of data between wifi and 3g)

So now this is not networked branded, I'd expect the ics update when Htc release it, and o2 don't get their grubby mits all over it!
[HTC Sensation] PowerValue:
Once you have a new rom, you will get updates from that rom. So no more worries about O2.

Sent from my HTC Sensation using Forum Runner
[HTC Sensation] dinhhviet:
Good to know,thanks for the updates
[HTC Sensation] killingflowers:
Thank God for that! I remember the desire getting gingerbread, and having to wait the best part of 4 months before o2 released it. That was my decision to root it made for me.

Haven't rooted this yet... May just wait to see how ics.runs on it first.
[HTC Sensation] killingflowers:
22 hours, even. If ics can manage that... brilliant!
[HTC Sensation] Awestrike:
Won't having the final release out give the devs here more stuff to work with?
[HTC Sensation] UKseagull:
I raise the bar a little. XE standard rom, light usage. :)
[HTC Sensation] killingflowers:
You win...

Damn!
[HTC Sensation] rinma50:
2 days ?!?!? ****!
[HTC Sensation] Arthur Hucksake:
About what I get out of mine with an Anker battery. That's if I use it as a phone to call and text rather than a pocket PC constantly syncing.
[HTC Sensation] dre1980:
I know the Sense is HTC premium UI but from what I have been reading I don't think ICS needs the overlay.. But anyways excited that its on its way officially...
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
2 Day Battery!!!! wow..... usually unplug about 7am, go to bed about 1am, phone is usually on 35% but i do listen to music a lot, browse/flash etc
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
I get 2 days all the time too. But I don't keep data turned on.

I only turn it on when I need it. And when I'm home I'm more likely to use my laptop for web browsing.

But 2 days with fairly decent texting and a couple calls a day is about normal.

At least 1 full day is practically guaranteed, even with playing a game or two and using data. All with the stock battery.
[HTC Sensation] Waveblade:
You guys clearly don't use the phone as much as me. I have to charge by 8PM or so lol
[HTC Sensation] aamir123:
How do you only asleep 6 hours everyday?
[HTC Sensation] stroobach:
i do almost the same..

go to bed between 12 and 1 am. wake up at 6 am.

but now..

i went to the bel company today (dunno of you know that store) but its a regulaire phone store,, (unbranded etc)

they didnt heard anything about ICS, so im starting to doubt on this,.

how sure are you that the phone is full ICS and not just a fake?
[HTC Sensation] vegetaleb:
Good to hear a final or at least more stable ICS will be ready soon, it's another reason for me to get back to GB till then :p
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
Hi mate, Im only going from internal memos he had, like i said, the man was from HTC, not a phone store, HTC have had ICS working (well, sort of working since late december - our forum had the leaks, the beta versions, with a few bugs that needed to be ironed out). he had the final (released to HTC employees,reps and assorted HTC peeps on tuedsay), and like I said too, the final version has been leaked somehow (so hopefully XDA devs get it), the release is within 14 days from tuesday..... i have recieved many inboxes too saying its all lies.....im just telling the forum what i seen/was told....

I dont know the kernal, the version was 4.0.3 and slightly later version than we have, the theme was halo/holo - one of those, sorry i cant say more
[HTC Sensation] LPChris47:
The fact that you keep saying "I can't say more" as an anonymous entity on a message board makes us all skeptical. It's hard to believe your information when you say that, considering that you've already given a lot of info already about your interaction with this alleged HTC representative.

It's not like your job is going to find out that you post on a message board leaking information, unless you do it at work.

Anyways, I hope you're information is correct. I can't wait for ICS.
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
Yes I do post at work, the boss and the HTC person read XDA too, they talk about the forum too, I merely gave information as soon as was told it, in the past when leaked versions of gingerbread and froyo and eclair came out, the final dates from HTC have been correct, so we should see ICS in the next 12 or so days now :)
[HTC Sensation] Pinepig:
Stock battery.
[HTC Sensation] Tatdude806:
Doubtful

Highly doubtful as TMO sticks their nose into all updates and software, figure another 30-60 days minimum. TMO is SLOW to update...:eek: