yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
Why must this come up all the time?

Do you get banned for not posting something in "almost two weeks"? There is a ROM here available to download.

As far as I can see, there is no arguing. Should LeeDroid's thread be closed because there has been no update? Same with mike1986 and ARHD,

"... no update for almost two weeks, that thread must be closed..."
[Desire HD Android Development] Karish1989:
We got a new rule :)

Release a rom within 2 weeks or you will get banned/your topic get closed :)

Nice One!
[Desire HD Android Development] djolebih:
I think shaky gave a good start base, meaning you can actually use it. As for things not working, that was the case with AOSP ICS at the beginning and I'm sure every other ROM ported from another device.

Threads should be closed if/when OP wants to. I don't know if you guys remember, but xda was actually created for developers originally, and later on allowed users to become a part of the community. That's one of the reasons I never created an account before, I't would be pointless since I was/am no dev.
[Desire HD Android Development] sonnysoul:
My bad for the Sensation XE/One X confusion, but I didn't argue a point about that. I didn't jump into an argument; I merely stated this rom was based on the Sensation XE leak.

I didn't really argue any point though, I only aired my opinion that everyone needs to chill instead of wanting quick updates from the team, especially as HTC will be officially releasing ICS for the DHD. These roms won't hit their full potential until we get the kernel from HTC.
[Desire HD Android Development] killersloth:
Flame on!
[Desire HD Android Development] Straiker13:
Good job! We look forward to you!
[Desire HD Android Development] techlogik:
Crickets. Seems to me the ICS Sense stuff has come to a grinding halt. Maybe someone has a tip that a leak of the official is coming soon..so no sense (pun intended), working on this further if something is about to drop.

Or maybe it is nothing!

Looking forward to the next phase!
[Desire HD Android Development] bloodydeath911:
Wait so no more work on sense and ics?
[Desire HD Android Development] tessut:
The devs are working hard to bring daily things to ics sense an example is mobike data & wifi and full gpu smoothness as well as the cam ^^
[Desire HD Android Development] Rabim:
Sense Ics

Well I installed this on my inspire 4g. Full wipe and a good load of sunscreen.

I took my phone like 3 min. install, which was fine, but then first boot took about 25 min which was like coffe coffe and a nother coffe. Ran smooth for the first 10 min and then already got first random reboot. Second boot did take 10 min . Then it works for then min again and does the same thing over again.

So all in one its something that sounds and looks good but still needs a lot of work. But still thumbs up for dumping nonSense on ICS (just joking).

Keep up the good work and send me a pm if you guys need someone for testing.:p
[Desire HD Android Development] maluch1324:
What is sunscreen ?
[Desire HD Android Development] simmarjit:
Its what you apply on your phone after each flashing to prevent it from getting baked :D
[Desire HD Android Development] maluch1324:
Ah. Thanks.
[Desire HD Android Development] bloodydeath911:
When will we get the kernel leak from HTC so we can use that in ics Roms? Anyone have a general idea?
[Desire HD Android Development] sonnysoul:
I believe the kernels don't actually get leaked, just the ruu from which we can extract the rom and radio. I think we only get our hands on the kernel when HTC releases the source.

If I'm wrong then someone please correct me.
[Desire HD Android Development] arknailed7754:
You are right HTC said the kernel source will be released soon when I asked them the only other way is through the official update they will release bummet
[Desire HD Android Development] Jam182:
well, if an ace ics ruu gets leaked, then you can also extract the kernel. you won't have the source yet, but you can use it to make ics roms work. just like they are doing with the sensation now.

cheers
[Desire HD Android Development] :
Next build reboots on inspire fixed
[Desire HD Android Development] :
Note: im looking for real trustworthy developers, to join the team for when I leave, I'll be checking your background, NOT taking on kangers etc
[Desire HD Android Development] tessut:
But First probably Not for the DHD as i Know the First will Sensation XL then we can really begin to develop DHD ICS ROMs ^^
[Desire HD Android Development] htctouchelfin:
But so the state how is? is it really far from a public realese of a rom?
[Desire HD Android Development] techlogik:
HAHA...people still keep referring to kang around here. Who knows what the real story with half of these developers running around here.
[Desire HD Android Development] djolebih:
Why are you leaving?
[Desire HD Android Development] :
the whole systems resized :)
[Desire HD Android Development] arknailed7754:
Good times..same as early ics I take it .bugged..
[Desire HD Android Development] :
I have some exclusive features :D
[Desire HD Android Development] arknailed7754:
Good times..looking forward to when all devs release these rooms

(Note to moderators) this is not e.t.a this is gratitude and good times
[Desire HD Android Development] djolebih:
Doesn't matter if it's bugged. All early builds are bound to have em. I run into bugs in complete ROMS lol.

@shaky156

Can't wait to see the end result. A lot of good ROMS are being cooked.
[Desire HD Android Development] :
games are pretty good :)
[Desire HD Android Development] :
Updated OP, Kernel 3.0 will not be distributed on xda, I'd rather keep it personal kernel development, it would cause too much trouble on here lol
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
Just to inform you shaky, I requested the kernel source.

Whether you choose to keep it personal or not you must provide the source. That is GPLv2. And it applies on or off XDA. You still need to provide source.
[Desire HD Android Development] :
I havent distributed any kernel 3.0, The modified kernel that was used on alpha 1.0 I dont have as it was deleted a awhile ago when I switched to LordClockans, I got permission from Lordclockan to use his kernel and that's what I've been using, ofcourse I'll upload a kernel
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
In that case, v1 has to be removed. If you cannot provide source for your modified kernel the this breaches GPLv2.

Harsh it may seem, but that is how it is. Every custom kernel must have source made available.
[Desire HD Android Development] :
I can upload another v1.0 with kernel changed
[Desire HD Android Development] ViDtje:
Or v2? :P :D
[Desire HD Android Development] :
As much as I want to I cannot do that yet :), I wouldve thrown v1.1 but who knows that would get kanged too :p, uploading v1.0 with kernel change and kernel source code too
[Desire HD Android Development] ViDtje:
That's too bad :( we would all already be happy with a resized build of v1 (I think, because I would) :D
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
Before this gets out of hand and way off topic. Sort out your personal issues in Private Messages. not the public boards.
[Desire HD Android Development] :
I understand people have to wait but its best to wait for sense3.6, its much better than v1.0 alpha

nets slow so itll take an hr or two to bring v1.0 alpha with kernel changed
[Desire HD Android Development] dazzasky:
I agree, it would be best to wait. There's no point having a Rom that you can't use.
[Desire HD Android Development] :
anyone know a quick fast file hosting site? megauploads down, multiuploads not working
[Desire HD Android Development] Bornin:
.Torrent m8

DHD - Tapatalk
[Desire HD Android Development] :
as in torrent files? I dont do torrent
[Desire HD Android Development] :
IF you were here before you'd know my work

Been busy with work, havent had much time to dev really, plus don't really want to dev here anymore, sure alot of people know the reasons, you come out with something new, people get desperate n take desperate actions if you know what I mean, I've had something newer for awhile now, but I'm not dropping it.

Another note: Reason why I dont post much information about ROM, e.g. I stated Ill be deving on sense 4.0, team kang stated it after me, I stated Ill work on wifi first team kang tried wifi, my team mate came out with a ROM name, already kanged, kanging gone to a whole new level lol
[Desire HD Android Development] Adrianiiii:
But will you still try to release Sense 4?
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
WiFi never worked on either ROM. Fixing something is not a "kangable" idea. If you want to patent "fixing" thing you should work for Apple.

What's this about kanging a ROM name?

Shake & Bake v.s Smartbeat Supremacy

I'm no developer here but it does not take an MD5 Checksum to see that they are very different.

If you still have a problem with "team kang" PM me, PM a Senior Moderator, report posts, do something other than coming across as paranoid.
[Desire HD Android Development] :
Im not paranoid, Im stating why I havent really answered the people asking about the status of ROM

what I'm saying is true and i wasnt talking about team name shake n bake lol n not smartbeat, ofcourse they arent the same name LOL, I dont have a problem with them IF I did I would embarass the whole team, I just call them team kang now thats all. :)

EDIT: My thread is clearly being watched, hence why zfreak posted then put "delete this post" or something similar, I did catch onto what zfreak said before he edited the post, like I said IF I was pissed off I wouldve replied to zfreak but I'm not :)
[Desire HD Android Development] HC4Life:
There we go again...:rolleyes:
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
Don't backtrack on the ROM Name. You posted "already kanged" show me where & by who. You state your theory now back it up.

I doubt any team would be embarrassed. Now here's your chance, call "team kang" out. Let XDA & the world know.

Frankly I'm sick of this, and I bet 99% of XDA users are too. If "we" as in the community cannot work together, is this a community after all? XDA might as well become a ROM link aggregator.
[Desire HD Android Development] djolebih:
Lmfao @ work for Apple.
[Desire HD Android Development] kurolife:
So at the end of the day are we getting a Rom or not?

I've never did rant ever on delays and always did thank devs for their time and hard work, I always been ready to test and report bugs, also trying to supply some news, and answer question i can on the general section but I'm getting fed up with this drama, and with devs leaving and fighting for each other in forum when sharing should be equal caring.

I've been patiently waiting for almost 2 months to see the developement for this rom, yes almost two months between the initial thread that was created before this one, and this one that is one month and a half old, and by the end of the day we get threated with this kind of drama and a fight between devs?

I feel sad that things are turning this way, I've been folowing XDA years now, way before I make an account (and the reason i made was to express my gratitude and at least contribute with what i can do to the comunity which isn't much) and I miss the old days, where everyone was getting along with each other the days of the Leo glory for exemple ect...

I think it is about time, that everyone thinks before acting, and help each other and be nice to each other it would be cool, like the old saying one Hand cannot clap alone, if one team can do a good job, two or tree teams working together can do a Better job in way shorter time!
[Desire HD Android Development] Dad Pee:
Yes it's really unfortunate. Thanks HTC they will come with the stuff and we shall see more devs on ICS Sense mature.

Dad Pee posted on XDA with App on DHD Quietly Flashing
[Desire HD Android Development] :
You guys are blowing this out of proportion :s

but here is the name http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22277342&postcount=365

and here's where it's used http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1504582

but me and my team dont have a problem with it otherwise it wouldve been reported
[Desire HD Android Development] :
Also if I was sooo against zfreak and his team, I wouldnt have suggesting multiple times to my team to collaborate and work with zfreak and his team :)
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
That isn't the point here. And it never should be.

Your not the only one who feels sad. It saddens me to. Seeing that the very reason XDA came about, brushed aside because of the attitude of some users & developers.

I actually owned an original XDA device (HTC Blue Angel) and back then there were no prima donna developers. Everything was for the benefit of the community, XDA is not a popularity contest.
[Desire HD Android Development] buzzboy:
And now everyone crawls out of the woodwork expressing their outrage. There is no need for further comments from anyone else, and furthermore, this is still a Development thread the last time I looked.

This is between Andy and the OP.

Regards
[Desire HD Android Development] zFr3eak:
wait i have to write on this part. you NEVER wrote to me. you wrote to bichon and memnoc yes but you never replied on my pm's neither wrote one to me.... (since sense 3.5)

the only thing was that we got reported about kanging. yeah i used your ramdisk and it wasnt right this way but i didnt even thought about it. anyway we have a new one.... but you wrote about 5 other points that we should kang in the report.

also kanging the idea about fixing wifi ? or sense 4 ? come on....

i hope we can clean this now forever....
[Desire HD Android Development] memnoc:
andy please let me show some proofs, so I can show to community who's the real kanger with screenshot and merge..wait for your permission
[Desire HD Android Development] djolebih:
@shaky156

Dude, I'm not defending "them" since, at times, we all tend to be "them", but I'm not on your side either. Multiple reasons for that.

For one, you put the ROM out there and then backed out so of course people will ask a LOT of questions and be annoying. You led to that point by releasing something that could have potentially grew into a great project. You let your personal issues with whichever members of the team1 or team2 reflect on the ROM and since then it's been a month, if not more, with no improvement. I understand it's difficult and you guys do actually have a life, but if you're uncertain you can actually work it out, then don't start it at all. For example, I have been working on a ROM for awhile now and no one knows about it. No one will until it's actually ready to be out and no one can ask "dumb" questions or troll and flame since there is no thread to do so, and there won't be one until we achieve near perfection.

So yes, I'm mad at you and your team, not because you haven't delivered, because you guys have made something, but because you knew from the get go it was not going to work out and yet you rushed to release. I've been around xda for a long time, but I never bothered to create an account until recently because there simply was no point. I would just ask dumb questions and annoy people who devote their FREE time to making my phone better.

As far as kanging, dude, I don't think anyone kanged anything from S&B. Team2 has a completely different base and the name sounds nothing like this one.

I know it's hard to port something that is not meant to run on DHD in first place, and I know a lot of things are not and most likely will not work at all, but again, you knew the risk and you ran with it anyway. So in my eyes, this one is on you. Again, I don't want to insult anyone with this and I hope you understand that this is not pointing fingers at you or anyone else, it's just stating the obvious. I would have written the same thing if it was anyone else. I appreciate all that you and guys you work with have done for DHD community, and I'm sure a lot of others are thankful as well, even if they don't show it.

---------- Post added at 11:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:40 PM ----------

@Smartbeat team

Guys please, let's not get into this any more then we already are. There is a thing called private message so if you want to yell and curse at each other, hit PM. New people register and see what goes on and then think it's ok to act just like that.
[Desire HD Android Development] HTC_Phone:
What's gonna happen when no one wants to be a part of this community anymore? When people are so tired with everyone fighting with each other about who did what to a ROM? I'm not taking EITHER side in this argument, as I know Shaky AND z , and have talked to them BOTH about everything.

We all need to just chill out before XDA is ruined.

EDIT: +1 to above. People come on here and see all us "Veterans" arguing and immediately assume that arguing is how XDA works. But it isn't.
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
Seriously? That is kanging "your" ROM name?

The 2 ROMs could not be more different. Yes, agreed, the name "Ascension" is the same. But its out of context. I think you know that.

Why did you call it out (without naming the ROM) earlier if you didn't have a problem with it?

Now, please don't get me wrong here. I'm all for helping everyone, ask the vast majority of users for the DHD (I hope ;)). But sometimes you need to help yourself first.
[Desire HD Android Development] zFr3eak:
no we tried it over months, guys please just let us clean this now i am really tired of it... we dont need statements from other users right now just the two teams with their opinion....

EDIT: @shaky

this was the last pm i wrote to you on the 19 of january before releasing anything:

you never wrote back ;) so please dont say you contacted me to work together....
[Desire HD Android Development] memnoc:
merge ready...waiting....I'd like to have the opportunity to defend me and my team..I'm sick, we are too much polite for my personal taste, now, if we want really talk about kangin whatever, well, we'll do it, but using computers, which can't lie...again, asking your permission to put the word end of these bullshits
[Desire HD Android Development] :
its just an example to explan as to why I and my team mates dont give out much information on my thread, like I said if I was angry it wouldve been reported, or I wouldve pm'd the op, me and my team mates already have a new name so its not a huge deal

people really need to chill out

@Zfreak it was only a suggestion to my team mates to offer a collaboration, but that wasnt the end decision, because the question came to us that what can you and your team provide? other than what I've fixed upto date I mean what have you developed further? (not trying to be mean nor start an argument)

I'm not tryna argue or cause a scene/drama so can everyone chill

@memnoc your merge/diff doesnt really count who knows if you've changed it or not :/

Like I said people really need to stop over reacting :)
[Desire HD Android Development] arknailed7754:
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stop argueing man,even the mods getting miffed.get back to it,both doing roms,happy days.pointless lol

btw ascension is a quality rom,regardless of its creation

(chill out)

hows your sense 4 going shaky etc
[Desire HD Android Development] zFr3eak:
i offered my help long time ago before any of a big release poped up: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22888339&postcount=599

man and exactly this is your problem. you say what we can constribute to this rom ? dont you think more heads = a faster progress ? well i think so but this was never in the room cause we alsways said we want to do our own rom but share sources, help each other. THIS IS WHAT XDA IS ABOUT.

what we can provide to this port is funny because the main situation was kanging, you reported us at a mod about kanging 5-6 things.

people should chill ? then maybe you should stop writing in every 6th post about kanging ;)
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
I'm not miffed. I'm just interested to see the logic behind this whole issue?

Unfortunately I can't see it.
[Desire HD Android Development] ronnie498:
It is ashame that the devs cant work it out. Its the members that lose out.
[Desire HD Android Development] Andy:
I'm going to close this thread. Not because of user request or community request, but because its going no where. You & I can see that.

Let this thread be warning for what can happen when there is a shift in the way a community works.
[Desire HD Android Development] djolebih:
4shared is good, but as the man before said, torrent never fails.
[Desire HD Android Development] killersloth:
http://www.dev-host.org/

dropbox is also nice http://db.tt/VpgUCpH1
[Desire HD Android Development] preston74:
http://www.hellshare.com/ still works.
[Desire HD Android Development] djolebih:
This 1.0 you just uploaded is with 3.5 or 3.6?
[Desire HD Android Development] :
thanks, dev host looks good, Ill use that too in future

its the first one I released with a changed kernel cuz of the situation, so I've put in the one I use now (thanks to lordclockan) and source code should be uploaded within 20 mins (sense 3.5)
[Desire HD Android Development] :
OP Updated with alpha 1.0 and kernel source too
[Desire HD Android Development] djolebih:
Changelog? Or is everything as it was before?
[Desire HD Android Development] :
same :)
[Desire HD Android Development] GazaIan:
Mediafire.

Edit: I fail too late :(
[Desire HD Android Development] rohitbaba:
I think i will wait till wifi and bluetooth starts working.

thanks for great work.

Dev
[Desire HD Android Development] :
I'm gna sit back, chillax, do my own thing, developin, lettin the haters hate, they got nothin better to do :D
[Desire HD Android Development] rohitbaba:
thats the way forward mate,
[Desire HD Android Development] jbplumbing.ca:
Will this rom support metadata over bluetooth?
[Desire HD Android Development] riteshbendre:
well I dont know what to say on that... (I am with you) .. it does take time to bring out quality work than just releasing roms.. fixing bugs every single day... and again uploading... its better to come up with that one and the best rom ... :)

but then, I so so wish CapyChimp where here... we could have had a working ROM a couple of weeks back :(
[Desire HD Android Development] dazzasky:
You can't say that and you don't know that. It's people like you that drove him away in the first place. Why don't you just let Shaky get on with giving us a quality Rom instead of comparing him and making negative comments.
[Desire HD Android Development] riteshbendre:
get the facts right DUDE .... I don't want to be RUDE nor I am comparing anyone here, nor I am passing negative comments...

*Read what I posted again... twice, thrice or even more and then talk*

Its just that, one of my friend also has a DHD who installed RcMix3D ROM and he was telling me about the RC Team and all... I got my phone rooted, Eng S-Off and all

Installed RCMix3D custom ROM and was happy... soon .may be after 15 days or so,,, I come to know that Capy is no longer developing for DHD ...

Now I think you can feel what I would have felt after knowing this .... :S
[Desire HD Android Development] dazzasky:
You made a comment that if Capy were here then we would now have the Rom. You don't know that. It's disrespectful to compare

which is what you did. So get your facts rights, and read again what you wrote. Dude!
[Desire HD Android Development] atrako1973:
Capy is trully gone he is not floating around I'm sure his ghost left with him

Sent from my Desire HD