yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Kindle Fire General] funnyangrykid:
Loo I know what you mean. My cousin actually bought a windows phone back when the HD2 was brand new. As a matter of fact I think it WAS the HD2 he bought.. well anyway he said he didn't like it so he ended installing Android onto the HD2. But just recently he bricked it so now he has the REZOUND.
[Kindle Fire General] un4givn85:
It might be an interesting change of pace. ;)

As I type from ics :p
[Kindle Fire General] Hironel:
right? i wanted to try it out xD because everything is either running IOS or android and i wana do something new and different xD and screw linux on it too lol it probably wont be able to do much. :rolleyes:
[Kindle Fire General] t0ny7:
I'm not a expert on Windows mobile or 8 but I don't think it will happen. Number one Windows is closed source so it would be hard to modify it to run on the Kindle Fire. And two unless Windows is released on a system that is close to the Kindle Fire then there probably is very limited selection of drivers.
[Kindle Fire General] Hironel:
actually they put windows 8 on a tablet already but they havent officaly released it yet. so yea it probably wont be on the kindle fire :/
[Kindle Fire General] Chiwaz:
No please no oh god please no pleaseplease no
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Windows 8 will work on an OMAP 4 4470, but not the OMAP 4 4430 that the Kindle Fire has.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/texas-instruments-announces-multi-core-1-8ghz-omap4470-arm-proc/
[Kindle Fire General] asb2164:
I am running Win 7 on my Fire
[Kindle Fire General] Alekgora:
wow go launcher na w7 :)))

nice wallpaper btw
[Kindle Fire General] bowenac:
Sure just use remote rdp...
[Kindle Fire General] seven@iimind.com:
I don't think kindle could get a windows8 rom

Sent from my Kindle Fire
[Kindle Fire General] itsDefying:
Killjoy. :(
[Kindle Fire General] seven@iimind.com:
i don't think so

Sent from my Kindle Fire
[Kindle Fire General] podspi:
Something tells me it will be possible, especially if there are any OMAP4 tablets at all, drivers should be similar.

Whether anybody actually goes through the trouble of getting it done and usable is another story altogether. I wonder what the performance would be like...
[Kindle Fire General] Aslan11:
I totally understand that Win 8 is gonna be pretty much impossible to run on the KF, but would it really be that difficult to have the windows mobile OS on there? I feel like the kindle should have more than enough power to run it. Then again I'm still a young budding dev so you all tell me :D
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodnar77:
hi, i have an SGS1 with Mosiac 9...

market stopped working today.... tried the following..

clear dalvik cache

clear cache

clear market cache

BUT how do i find the .android_secure directory

i cant even find it through my android rooted file manager?

thanks..

PS.. seeing how many different phones, ROMs are having this issue... i am believing that its a market specific issue?

i also found this... but i dont know how to use it correctly or if its applicable... im a newb....

"When the Android Market app 3.4.4 was starting the download of an app it failed after a few seconds with error "could not be downloaded due to error 492". Searching on the internet I found some Asian page which contains the solution ... execute "chmod 777 /data/download". After I had execute this statement under adb shell, I had been able to install apps without any problems on my AC100 (with the OS update from July 2011)"

PPS.... how do i edit my signature... cant find that anywhere?

thanks again
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodnar77:
SOLVED.... i hope

from ui

1.) factory reset

2.) format usb sd

from CWM

1.) factory reset/wipe data

2.) clear dalvik

3.) clear cache

4.) re install MOSAIC 9

5.) factory reset/wipe data

6.) clear dalvik

7.) clear cache

ALL is good again... for now.. i hope...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HexAndBoon:
I'm having this is issue too on my GT-S5570 (Galaxy Mini). I'm trying to figure out right now how to solve this.

---------- Post added at 09:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:52 PM ----------

Fixed. Had to clear data/cache from Recovery mode.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Snwspeckle:
Ok so this is my question:

If ASUS doesn't recall defected TF201 is it considered illegal?

Now think about this for a second, every year we see on the news that some gadget has some sort of defect and the company that created the product announces a recall to resolve this issue. ASUS has admitted there is a WiFi and GPS issue but is taking measures to deny it. Are ASUS's actions considered illegal since they are selling us products with known defects? Why hasn't the FCC or BBB required them to recall all the tablets that have these defects. My Transformer Prime came in today and I get about 1 bar right next to my router and it can't even keep a stable connection. On top of that, my 8MP camera is more blurry than my Galaxy Nexus 5MP camera. This tablet has severe hardware issues and after considering this, I think there could be a serious lawsuit involved.

Please comment, I would love to hear people's opinion.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
This is an EXCELLENT question that I would love a lawyer or an expert answer because I would love nothing more then to sign up for this class action lawsuit and really stick it to these sons of *****es I am totally fed up with this.

Also you are forgetting the main thing false advertisment for advertising GPS in specs and then taking it out I think this would be the homerun swing here.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ravizzle:
Nope, not illegal. gps issue is not a safety risk. Only time they are required by law is if it poses a danger.

However you can get then for false advertising. But, first you would have to make attempt to return the product. If they don't allow return then u can say it was misleading and they didn't make reasonable effort to correct their mistake.

Sent from my Galaxy S2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Snwspeckle:
Your telling me, I had to wait forever just to get a DEFECTED product shipped to me that won't even be fixed. All they do is ship you another with a good 75% chance to have a defect as well. ASUS knows the new back will fix all the issues. I am getting sick of this because now I have to bring this back to Best Buy. Oh did I also mention the entire corner of my box was completely destroyed when I got my tablet...

But the action is not regarding a safety risk, rather, its paying for a product you didn't fully receive and I am not about to go return mine to get another that is broken; especially since they don't even have them in store at Best Buy. I am not waiting to have one shipped again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ravizzle:
I never said anything of that sort. Idk if my writing was unclear.

I said u can return it, but if they don't allow you to get a refund, then u have a claim because of false advertising. Never mentioned exchanges at all.

Edit 6pm PST:

You asked if it was illegal and if they were required to issue a recall.

They don't have to issue a recall. If they want to they can.

Add per my understanding they said they removed gps from the list now, do they made reasonable attempts to address false advertising. If you bought before they did that, then you should be entitled to a full refund. If they deny such refund then you have a good case.

And when I say return, I mean return. Not exchange. If lack of gps is the prob, then the prime just isn't for you, maybe wait for the t700 which has plastic back.

Sent from my Galaxy S2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slugbug2010:
My opinion is that a handful of people called the Backplate Conspiracy Theorists who are dead set on going up against the Great Evil otherwise known as Asus would look like a bunch of fools.

False advertising that the tablet has......... aGPS? I'm still waiting for someone to show me where Asus advertised the Prime as having a dedicated unassisted GPS unit.

Your box got messed up by UPS, that that issue up with them.

And you return your product to the vendor you bought it from. That would be Best Buy.

IF YOU HAVE A LEMON, RETURN THE DAMN THING.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
New back plate has nothing to do with the biggest problem of all.... Primes crash/rebooting and having video issues making them unusable at this point I could care less about the GPS and weaker WiFi signal.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ravizzle:
Well luckily my prime is fine, but if I was in your situation I would return or exchange my prime as it is obvious you got a bad unit.

Sent from my Galaxy S2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kborer22:
If its defective, return it. If it does not meet your standards, return it.

As far as the denying there is an issue part, they have come out and said in official press release that the design of the solid aluminum back degrades the signal. Its more design flaws then defects, not to say people have not had their share of mfg defects.

If customers are not happy they should speak out by not buying the products.

At the end of the day are you happy with what you got?

Loving mine so far, no mfg issues to speak of and wifi range is decent. I have not ran into an issues where I could not connect to wifi.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slugbug2010:
You think that 75% of the Primes are defective? The tablets that no vendor can keep in stock? The same tablet you waited forever to get? The one you wont wait to get replaced?

Did I just read someone else thinks they are defective because of the rebooting after the OS update?? You do realize this is happening to a very very small number of devices, right?

Get a grip. Look around. Do some research. MOST of the articles written about problems with the Prime refer right back to here - this site, xda. Almost everything else written, reviews, consumer reactions, buyers, etc are loving their new Primes. We are NOT the average consumer of these types of devices.

Really folks. Put yourself out of this misery and return them for a refund or exchange. You may not want to keep, others do, you can make money on it by selling it on ebay.

Class action law suit over a friggin tablet that reboots after an OS update. Ridiculous. Have the FCC force a recall on a tablet. A TABLET!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
The class action lawsuit would be under the false advertising part of removing a GPS from specs. Just curious though from your tone it seems like you think this is not a big deal that roughly 20% of Primes right now have a constant locking up and rebooting issue rending them unusable with no way to fix them not even factory resets?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
There could be grounds for a civil suit if ASUS falsely advertised the capabilities of the device and/or breached their implied warranty because the Prime is not fit for the purpose for which it was sold. I'm not a lawyer but I've been in business for about 20 years and that's my understanding of the relevant legal concepts.

I think that for the period of time prior to ASUS changing their marketing of the Prime as including "GPS" (I don't remember any marketing materials specifying aGPS), they could be liable for breach of implied warranty and subject to a class action suit (or individual action, although the costs would likely be prohibitive for most people and not worth the time). Bottom line is that a reasonable and fairly knowledgeable person would assume that the GPS would work well enough for one of its primary common purposes, i.e., navigation, unless ASUS had specified otherwise.

This would only be available to anyone who purchased their Primes before ASUS changed their marketing. It would be hard to prove which customers who purchased the Prime prior to this date were aware of the GPS issue, because it's not as if ASUS sent an email to every registered customer letting them know of the defect and offering a solution. Therefore, a class action suit would likely include everybody who purchased their Prime prior to an established date regardless of whether they COULD HAVE known about the GPS issue within any return period. It's not as if most people visit forums like this one or read the ASUS Facebook page and are therefore aware of the problem. ASUS could post notice of the issue by taking out ads in newspapers, issuing press releases, etc., but to my knowledge they've done none of that.

Indeed, the fact that ASUS did publicly, albeit not widely, admit the design error works against them. They've admitted culpability and haven't yet offered compensation to those who might have been harmed. The generally poor wifi performance contributes to that harm, or at least to evidence of a design flaw that makes the Prime less fit for its purpose as a mobile connected device. Toss in the redesign of the case in the TF700 that's obviously aimed at improving radio performance, and ASUS would have a hard time claiming they're not aware of any issues.

I'm still expecting ASUS to do something, up to and including what they've said they'll do in Taiwan, that is, offer an extended return policy. They could head off a class action lawsuit simply by offering to give everyone's money back who purchased a Prime before they changed their marketing of it. The coverage date remains up in the air, in my opinion, because retailers still list GPS in the specs and the packaging itself lists GPS. It's hard for them to argue that they're no longer marketing it as a GPS-enabled device (again, specifically NOT an aGPS device) when their own packaging still lists it as a feature.

Again, I'm not a lawyer, but I've seen class action suits succeed based on far less clearly justified claims. I would be shocked if there isn't a class action suit if ASUS doesn't respond soon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jfranco328:
Agreed, I wonder if some of these people threatening legal action ever discovered women at some point in their lives. I wouldn't want these disgruntled cry babies exchanging their "defective" products. I would rather they get their money back and once and for all put an end to their misery.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ravizzle:
unfortunately you cant class action on the false advertising unless they deny u from returning your tablet (within a reasonable time frame) for a refund. This is because asus has gone out and acknowledged and corrected the issue. they made a reasonable effort to correct their mistake.

And also on second thought, the device is in fact equipped with a gps sensor (it just sucks due to aluminum body) so the false advertising isnt really that strong of a case in the first place. The device does get a gps signal (although weak and horribly unusable when not on wifi)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NORCALkID:
Lock ups and reboots happen were acting like nothing ever happens when sh*t like this goes out to the masses. All and i mean all updates and os upgrades will have bugs. Ios had them android has them windows has em. Asus has been the only company on the android side that has released more updates to their products than any other company. If you dont like what you got return the damn thing and stop the QQ.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Itaintrite:
I'd love to know where you guys get your numbers from.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joehanratty:
I would much rather ASUS developcement back with the plastic strip like on the TF 700 that could be installed by Best Buy for about $25.00. While it should work correctly out of the box, I would galdly spend $25. to replace the back.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chungylau:
You know that 93.7% of all statistics is made up, right?

---------- Post added at 07:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:01 PM ----------

What is a defected TF201?

Seriously, guys, if you are so passed off with Asus, return it already. It's just a tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ChristoA1:
Two problems with this:

1) It's not just a backplate. It's the back frame, with stuff built onto it. If it were a piece that was pried/screwed off and could be easily swapped out, maybe, but if you go look at the teardowns for this, you'll see this isn't the case.

2) Best Buy?? I wouldn't trust them to replace an external keyboard for a desktop, much less let them tinker inside a tablet, lol. Plus, in addition to their crappy quality of repair services, their prices are horrible. They charged money to pair bluetooth headsets to phones! D:

lol, ranting aside, welcome to XDA and enjoy your stay. Feel free to keep throwing out ideas, and watch out for the trolls. Usually they're pretty reserved, but the Prime situation has them out in force!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
Its a estimate based on a poll on XDA and its not just a couple its hundreds of Primes effected.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] -lukin-:
For what it's worth, my TP receipt from Canada Computers lists the specs, and yes, GPS is one of them. So I have all the proof I need. ASUS recently asked for proof of purchase for RMA and that's what I sent them.

And for the guys that don't like the griping about GPS, WIFI, etc., just don't read the thread. I don't think we're going anywhere until the issues are resolved.

Cheers.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
Well said... these people that are not having any problems and calling us babys etc.. are really starting to piss me off only because I know if they were having the problems they would be the same ones supposedly "crying and whining" too....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
This brings up an interesting question and I am not so sure its clear cut like you make it. GPS does not inherently mean "GPS capable of turn by turn navigation". GPS in its basic form is providing location data and I am not so sure you could argue that GPS means location data at a speed in which turn by turn navigation is possible. There are GPS devices out there that are not capable of providing turn by turn navigation.

Our units can receive satellite signals albeit weak ones. But so long as they are capable of providing location data even if slow and weak they could very likely successfully argue against any lawsuit.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ChristoA1:
It's kind of a gray area... Yes, it could be argued that it has some GPS functionality, but the defective units are not up to GPS specifications for accuracy. I did navigation equipment in avionics for a couple years, and I can tell you there is a *****-ton* of specification papers out there, lol

However, you're correct in that it could be argued that the GPS is sufficient enough for a computer-like device. Where I think the tables turn a bit is that instead of defending their GPS functionality and saying "it's good enough," ASUS decided to retract the function altogether after selling it with (and advertising) that feature.

They also advertised turn-by-turn directions, which doesn't help.

All said and done, no I don't think it's *illegal* per se (which would make ASUS subject to criminal investigation), but I do think there is enough to warrant civil action *if ASUS does not come up with some remedy.*

IANqAL
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
Thanks for the info. I didn't know they advertised turn-by-turn directions and yah that definitely doesn't help.

I see where you are coming from with the retracting the GPS feature, but perhaps they could argue that even though its "good enough" they still felt like they should take it off just in case and to prevent further confusion. Who knows. But they would have high paid lawyers better at doing this then me!

And as ravizzle has said, so long as they are willing to refund those units that were sold before, there really isn't a case to be had (and im doubtful of any case even if they don't). But hoping they are willing to offer refunds for those who want it and bought before the retraction.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
It would come down to what a "reasonable person" considers GPS to mean. I think GPS means the ability to lock onto enough satellites to attain and maintain a geographical lock, even when in motion, for the purpose of tracking one's position over time. When one thinks of buying a dedicated "GPS device," i.e., a Garmin, one is very specifically thinking of navigation. In fact, prior to smartphones having GPS, I think that the ONLY way anyone ever thought of GPS was as part of a navigation device.

And think of some of the most common uses for GPS in smartphones: run tracking, navigation, geocaching, etc. All rely on relatively accurate (say, within 3-5 meters) geolocation that changes over time.

I think ASUS would sound kind of silly saying, "Well, for _us_, GPS means locating oneself as long as there's a wifi signal, and then only as accurate as said wifi signal would locate oneself without GPS, and as long as one isn't moving." Which is essentially the situation we have, if I'm not mistaken. GPS will lock if there's a wifi signal to provide the initial satellite data, then it will lock to around 20-30 meters accuracy. That's pretty much equivalent to what one can get today with wifi geolocation. And it will not reliably maintain a connection when moving.

All of this, in the context of ASUS admitting that the all-metal design hampers the ability for GPS to function as, how did they put it? A "professional" GPS device, or something? I think a good lawyer could chew that argument up and spit it out, particularly considering how litigious and pro-consumer our legal system has become.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ChristoA1:
I think that right there is the crux of the matter. If they offer some program to those who purchased them while they still were touting the GPS features, then they've done their part. Whether it's replace the units with TF700s, or refund without restocking fees, whatever. If they handle that part, IMHO they've done what's necessary.

Does it suck that they gave up on GPS? Sure! It's a great feature, and sucks to not have it. But other high-end tablets don't have it, and going forward even the TF700 with its new hardware is not advertising GPS. ASUS has deemed it a lost cause, and that's their decision to make. Just take care of the users that purchased it with that reasonable expectation in mind.

--

And with regards to the TF700 replacement: That's another very gray area. It doesn't make sense to replace the TF201s with TF700s due to the GPS issue, because the new units don't have GPS (AFAWK). And if they start replacing them because of the WiFi issues, they're opening themselves up for trouble. My guess is that they'll make internal modifications to the TF201s (Like they did with the TF101 dock issues) and replace those on a case-by-case basis. As has been said before, they can't modify the units externally (e.g., backplate) without doing another song and dance with the FCC. But if that's the option they go with, that's what they'll do. At this point, all we can do is wait and see...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
Good points. Like so many things it would come down to 2 sets of lawyers doing there thing and arguing whatever they can.