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[Android General] dexterfunk:
The Sony ones are really good though, answer call button, pause and play media, good sound quality and small plug.
[Android General] vegetaleb:
Another proof that its apple that imitated SE with their iphone4 , the titanium/metalic borders were always an SE style since K800/k850...

This xperia S is damn sexy!

I will buy it

IF

XDA devs will work on it, I ended selling my Arc after a month because of the total lack of roms
[Android General] dexterfunk:
Well the arc now has done good roms. I agree with you only way I'll get it is of xda developers work on it.
[Android General] simacai:
looks strange
[Android General] dexterfunk:
I personally think it's the best looking phone they have made yet. The ion looks similar but no see through part on bottom.
[Android General] kevinnol:
Really like the design.. some informations on which carrier it will be ;p ?

Hope it gets some Rom love from the devs out there
[Android General] dexterfunk:
No word on carriers yet but im guessing, Rogers will be one for sure.
[Android General] kevinnol:
Nice, hope there's not so much bloat on it and a decent battery .. -perfect phone :P
[Android General] dexterfunk:
Kinda bad you cant remove the battery though
[Android General] kevinnol:
Why ever make a phone with a unremovable battery ?

I just don´t get it.
[Android General] dexterfunk:
They said it was all for the design of the phone, I just hope it's easy to unlock the boot loader and everything unlike the arc. And hopefully its got a micro sd slot and if it does hopefully it's hot swappable
[Android General] kevinnol:
Yea would be nice, Sony should follow the 'HTC's unlocked bootloader policy'
[Android General] nxdu:
I've never own a SE smartphone before, what is their current stand on rooting?
[Android General] kevinnol:
Rooting ? or bootloader?

Depends on the Phone s:
[Android General] dexterfunk:
Rooting doesn't void warranty but unlocking the bootloader voids it.
[General Questions and Answers] Computerized:
Hi all

As i mentioned in the topic title

Why do these service providers make the international mobiles so gay and change the whole design just to take the exclusivity !!!

for example the Galaxy S II GT-I9100 , the whole world use the one in the pic below

But what AT&T do , is making a whole new design and release their own Galaxy S II which is on the below pic

and many other smart phones and mobiles

Why they never follow earth standard?? why do they like to be so gay!!

I only need to know for what reasons they do it
[General Questions and Answers] got556:
While I agree the US does get a lot of cool phones, we get shafted up the ass w/out the lube over plan pricing and what features are locked/done away with vs what is unlocked/allowed to the rest of the world.

It's a real trade off and I'd rather have a phone the rest of the world already has with better pricing/data options and tabs that can make phone calls.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Game4set:
to the point where I'm thinking of returning my Galaxy Nexus. The phone is beautiful and slick but I can't deal with the battery life. I'm especially worried for when I go back to my University next week because I'm not sure if the phone would last while I'm going from class to class from 9 AM to 5 PM everyday and most rooms having low to no reception.

Before this phone I had the HTC Thunderbolt with the extended battery and it could last me the whole day while I was going from class to class and under heavy and constan usage (to the point where I never had to bother monitering it or caring about the battery). I would have auto-brightness on, GPS, Google Latitude, use Facebook app freeling, have Google+ uploading my pics as soon as they were taken, use Pulse, and be ALWAYS connected to 4G without worrying about the battery life.

Now with the Galaxy Nexus I'm forced to turn down my brightness, turn off GPS, turn off Latitude (you can see where this is going. Pretty much opposite of Thunderbolt), uninstall Facebook and disable Google+, minimize my usage, and use Wifi whenever possible to get through a few hours. I even uninstalled Google Voice today to see if that makes any difference. Really? Why am I crippling my smartphone? Why should I have to turn off 4G on a 4G phone to save battery?

I'm obviously an idiot for comparing a Thunderbolt that has an extended battery (2,750 mAh) with the Galaxy Nexus that has a normal battery (1,850 mAh). It's also my fault for trying to believe that battery technology would improve in about a year especially after the horrible battery life from the Thunderbolt; I thought that people would learn from other's mistakes. I thought that the Galaxy Nexus, Google's new and precious baby, would fix the woes from previous phones.

I've been following a ton of forums to find out if there's a fix and I've done a bunch of stuff (disable Google+, uninstall Facebook, etc) but there's barely a difference. Some people are suggesting that an update will come along to fix the battery but I'm tired of hearing that excuse. A software fix will only do so much. And 4.0.3 has been announced for a quite a while from Google. Why hasn't this phone been update to 4.0.3? Why did Google halt it from the Nexus S? Is there something that's running down the battery even more with that update? I don't want to go off topic but I just hate being kept in the dark and not understanding what is going on.

Here I am now typing this as I'm looking at my Thunderbolt while it charges. I'm planning on trying out a few ICS ROMs to see how they go. I'm just tired of second guessing myself. The Galaxy Nexus is a beautiful device, both software and hardware wise; the camera may not be the best but I love it's speed and ICS is just sleek as F. But I can't fully enjoy the phone with the mediocre battery life that I am getting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
I suggest stock 4.0.2 with ogdobber's jamesbond kernel which only has undervolt open and the gpu oc'ed. Probably need to turn off lte and stick to the CDMA. 3g CDMA isn't fast but it is passable and battery efficient.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] profundus-sanus:
even if battery tech does drastically increase 1750 mah will ALWAYS still be 1750mah it may take up less space or create less heat.. Mah is a measurement of milliamperes per hour
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] David Horn:
Try Paul O'Brien's excellent MoDaCo ROM - very impressive battery life and for $9 you get access to the kitchen. There's an update due today which will fix a flaky call issue.

Alternatively, hang on for 4.0.3 which is likely to bring some decent battery life improvements and bug fixes (though wouldn't surprise me if it's out for the Galaxy S2 first). I used to get 2-3 days of heavy use from my SGS2, get one of those and wait for ICS if you want better battery.

And a last alternatively... shove one of these in your bag:

http://www.firebox.com/product/2692/Pebble-Portable-Charger
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MarkGbe:
If your in places with no reception, put the thing in airplace mode or disable mobile data.

This phone gives me the best battery life vs my last 4 phones,... HTC hero, htc evo, Nexus s, and htc evo 3d...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chrono_Tata:
Get an external battery. Since you are in uni I suppose you will be carrying around a bag anyway so it won't be too inconvenient to lug around. Just leave your phone charging during lunch and it should last the rest if the afternoon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] A_Flying_Fox:
Go into your sstem/app folder and take off apps that you don't use. EVERYTHING you don't use. if you take a trip to that folder you're gonna see a lot of **** that you didn't know was there.

Do some cleaning and you should be fine with your normal usage. Also, try to flash a kernel so you can customize the governors and allow the phone to sleep more efficiently.

Coming from a thunderbolt, you should know how horrible battery life is for ANY stock android device...

There's no need to gimp your smartphone. I fluffing hate it when people say "just disable 4g, 3g, take auto-sync off, turn brightness all the way down, and only surf the web with wifi"

WHAT? WHY THE **** DID I BUY A 4G SMARTPHONE THEN IF I'M ONLY GONNA USE IT AS JUST A PHONE?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] A_Flying_Fox:
Also to put it in context...I'm using the epic 4g and I still have the stock 1500 mAh battery and the only time I lasted more than 4 hours on stock without having to charge was with a gngerbread leak.

But after a couple days of devs getting dirty and taking the time to clean up, your battery should last exponentially longer since people will have figured out what exactly drains the batter and how to stop it.

On the epic, it was the DRM. **** always ran in the background, then someone discovered it and about a month later it became so irrelevant since all the devs knew what code to get the drm to stfu until you needed it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Lol lay off the nerd 'roids. It like leaving all the lights on and air conditioning in your house and wondering why the bill is so high. It's like a lot of people are expecting their smartphone to automatically be efficient. Get a bigger gas tank if you need to run a marathon. Otherwise sprint efficiently with what you have.

Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
Hah.. fallout new Vegas Nerd Rage perk. STR to Max and screen-on drain resistance +50% when battery falls below 20%.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] joshnichols189:
What
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
Battery lasts me all day on the GSM version.

Folks, powering an extra radio uses extra power.

Moreover, the longer your data connection stays active, the longer your radio is active which is an even bigger drain. Since the LTE Gnexus devices are powering 2 radios (CDMA *and* LTE) simultaneously, and the second radio isn't as efficient as the standard radio that's part of the SoC package, this means that you need to ration your data usage if you want your battery to last.

Again, on the GSM version this isn't an issue because the radio is built into the SoC from the ground up, as well as it being only a single active radio at a time (GSM *or* UMTS/HSPA).

Software updates won't change that. It's a matter of physics. The LTE version may see some improvements here and there, but no software will counteract the effects of having to power 2 radios constantly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] A_Flying_Fox:
Lol its definitely not like that. Its more like buying a new eco lightbulb that you use just like your old lightbulb but your bill is $80 more. Wut? LOL

But nah my epic 4g lasts me the whole day with 4g on (no access to wifi :[ ), auto-sync for gmail (i don't use facebook so its always the first app to go), blah blah blah. The only time battery is a problem is if I'm in a no sprint zone and forget to make my phone roam. Other than that, its used as a smartphone with 3+ hours of screen on time (voodoo color allowsyou to edit the gamm values and what not so its able to sip less power for the same brightness if that makes sense)

Seriously, root your phone and if stock is your thing, just install a custom kernel. Kernels handle the voltages and frequencies andhow your phone interacts with certain things so a custom kernel will almost ALWAYS have been optimized over stock. You will probably see a muc better result if you flash a ROM and Kernel, simply because custom roms are made to work without all the extra **** running in the background that no one wants
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] David Horn:
Willing to stick my neck out and bet that we see 4.0.3 with all the Touchwiz toys out before the 4.0.3 update from Google.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
Just to clarify, make sure you KNOW what you're deleting and make backups anyway, just in case something you remove from there causes issues with another application that expects it to be there. Sure, you can remove a lot (if not most) of things from system/app without harm, but don't just go deleting random things unless you are SURE there will not be side effects.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skynet11:
Sorry, but that's not gonna happen...

Terminators run on Android :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
You can have good battery life, of course :)

Here is mine, all stocks, not-rooted, not-unlocked, 4.0.1, yakju.

Using EXTENDED Battery 2000 mAH, GSM version.

Stand by 2 days and 7 hours, screen on time was 3 hours and 18 minutes.

It still has about 17% battery life, which could easily translate to 1 hour or so screen on time :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] A_Flying_Fox:
Common sense dictates not to delete something if you aren't sure what it is.

I apologize for having faith in the OP's cognitive functions.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
Your words were to delete EVERYTHING in system/app that you don't use. I'm not trying to pick an argument here, but I just like to clarify, because what may be common sense to some people may not be to another. Not even necessarily the OP, but others that come across the thread in the future.

/worked in tech support -- common sense can never be assumed. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tjotte:
WOW! Best iv'e seen so far! I manage to get about 3h on screen time over one day of use, but 2 days and nights with already over 3h screen and still 17% to go!! Wow :) i do keep gps, sync, latitude, g+ turned on at all times though and always 100% screen brightness, no facebook.. gonna delete that acc soon.. any trix you use to get that bat,life?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] A_Flying_Fox:
Ahhh lmao you are very correct. I should actually clarify next time. my apologies
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rores:
My lg optimus one has a chinease extended 3900mah battery with a cover, and because of my crap specs, and 3g disabled I can go about 6 days without charging. Extended batteries are the solution
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gnexdude:
If you go the rom route, you can try Android Revolution HD. This rom greatly increased my battery life and the is fully stock so your phone doesn't look any different, but works much better...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] copkay:
No worries, I sometimes come off more harshly than I should on replies. I've edited it to sound less dickish. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mutelight:
I second this. I am running that ROM and this kernel and now have great battery life. I can easily make it through the day with medium usage, working in a building with terrible VZW coverage.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Game4set:
Hey guys! Thanks for for all of the suggestions. So the suggestions I got were:

1. External battery

2. Extended battery

3. Root it and check out ROMs/kernels (the most suggested one)

I'm willing to check out external batteries but I'm a little hesitant of the extended battery because I don't want the Galaxy Nexus to be huge like my Thunderbolt used to be (the Thunderbolt with the extended battery was ugly and I don't want to do the same to the Nexus).

As for ROMs, when I originally purchased this phone, I was planning on just keeping it stock and getting all of my updates from Google. I knew that I wouldn't have time to mess around with ROMs. I enjoy unlocking the limitless possibilities of my devices (PSP, iPod Touch, one of my tablets, Moto Droid, Thunderbolt) but I was planning on not dealing with the hassle of backing up all of my apps and backing up my phone and updating and installing new ROMs. It's my fault for having expectations of this phone being "perfect."

But I'll be checking out some ROMs right now (a few of you suggest some and I'm already looking at them) and I'm hoping to find something that helps even though I'd rather keep my phone clean (no backed up and restored apps, etc).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aohus:
to OP,

probably best to stay on stock ROM and get a 4.0.2 based custom kernel where you have the ability to undervolt. almost all ROMs/kernels are made for speed + performance, which is essentially contrary to what you want, which is a stable, long-lasting device.

Custom ROMs are way overrated imo. ask any experienced Android user. Stock + customer kernel is the best option for battery life, but feel free to check out the custom ROMs.

additionally, some of the users posting here are HSPA+ users. FYI HSPA+ battery life compared to LTE batt life is like night and day! Of course the HSPA+ user will be getting better battery life. Also, those that are giving out 'long battery life' are essentially on wifi the entire day... The Qualcomm LTE radio chip + 4.65 SAMOLED HD screen is the main battery hog. Sadly its more of a hardware limitation than anything else.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AdamHart612:
GSM here. Getting by all day, 7AM-11PM, with about 15% left and 3+ hours screen on time. Also on Sprint for work, and with WiMax turned on, my Evo was lucky to last 4 hours. So obviously using LTE is gonna kill your battery; then again everyone knows that. Besides that, its kinda bizarre that the battery life between GSM and CDMA is so different. My Galaxy Nexus has been the best battery life wise Android phone I've owned. Better than my Evo, EpicT4g, G2x, G1, Sensation, E3D, Hero, MT3G.....you get the picture.

Seeing all these battery life threads makes me cringe, not because I think you guys are doing something wrong, but because like half of us are loving the battery life. Hopefully Google can figure something out for the LTE users because that kinda battery sucks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt30:
You're doing it wrong. LTE/everything is on. Screen set to auto brightness.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt30:
Deleting programs doesn't actually save all that much battery. Unless I'm gaming the biggest perpetrator of energy hogging is the screen.

If you really want to save the battery just set the phone to 3g mode. Problem solved.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shaquiel Harris:
Main reason why i went the GSM route and got a gsm nexus even though i work at vzw. This thing never dies and this is before i rooted but im sorry to hear about your battery though. And im assuming you have a extended battery but honestly most of my customers applaud me for giving them this phone since the battery lasts the longest of our current 4g lineup.. you sure its not a faulty device? Rooting and a custom kernel may be your cure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aohus:
what an ignorant statement to make.

'brags' about his idle time, fails to include total on-screen time into the equation and was on wifi the entire day. based on your screenshot you barely used the device at all from looking at the screen on time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChongoDroid:
Yeah homie get your display time up

:P

But it's true, idle time proves nothing

Sent from my Google phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt30:
Its almost like I was in class or something...

If you can't make it from 9 to 5 while in school you're doing it wrong. Deleting apps doesn't do a damn thing in terms of battery life.

FYI, you might want to check the dictionary definition of "ignorant" because you didn't use it right.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aohus:
hey there big guy on campus, not all folks are going to school. some folks are without a charger from 9 - 7pm. Some use their mobile devices heavily for work. Your use case scenario does not equate to everyone else's use case scenario.

FYI, learn to report battery statistics correctly.

@ChongoDroid, using HSPA+ version of G Nexus right? lucky. that on-screen time almost makes me want to jump ship for AT&T rofl. Qualcomm needs to reduce battery consumption on their radio chips. My goodness.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] swm5126:
You have to remember that our phones are actually using TWO radios when on 4G. Not only is the CDMA radio active for SMS and phone calls, the LTE radio is on for data connectivity. When Verizon starts allowing VoLTE, hopefully our battery life will increase as there will be only the need for the LTE radio. Not to say that our LTE radio will be the most efficient at that point with updates radios in new phones, but it will be a hell of a lot better than having both radios on at once.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt30:
Apparently you don't know how to read either. The OP was talking about going to school. No one really cares about why you're so butt hurt.

Anyone that's been around a smartphone for the last 5 years knows they only last around 10-15 hours with regular use.

QQ somewhere else.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
You can see the screen was barley on. He probably wasted a whole day without touching his phone just so he could post that.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
you're doing it wrong. when you say somebody used ignorant wrong, might want to post something that actually shows something. nice picture of your phone on standby. i think the word we are looking for here is "ignoramus"? :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
You were also on WiFi the entire time. Irrelevant whether the CDMA/LTE radios were on...if you're on a WiFi connection they're both enabled only to keep the connections alive (which means you're saving probably 80% of the battery you'd normally be using).

Either way, with screen set to Auto and using CDMA-only I end the day with around 45-50% battery life (that's from 7:30am to midnight, usually around 2 or so hours of screen on-time). Sounds like you're using the phone constantly.

Get the extended battery. You won't even *notice* the difference in thickness, and the small amount of extra weight actually makes the phone feel much better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] reuthermonkey:
The CDMA radio is active for voice/messaging, but the LTE radio isn't on when wifi is connected.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt30:
Yeah, dude. You're so right. He posted at almost 11am and I waited 18 hours later to post at almost 6pm to show of my crazy energy conservation skills.

Math. It's hard work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
Or you had the picture already

Nonetheless your screen on time was probably no more than 20 mins

With wifi on therefore your lte radio was not on

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt30:
The point was that you don't need to "uninstall facebook", "turn down your brightness", or disable google voice/google+ to get your phone to last 8 hours.

A CDMA radio draws about as much power as a 802.11g radio (I don't have the numbers for 802.11n) which is about 900-1100 miliwatts.

A wimax radio in a mobile device will draw almost 1700 miliwatts. An LTE radio is more efficient than a wimax radio. Your 80% figure is wildly overestimated.

---------- Post added at 07:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:33 AM ----------

I just happen to post exactly at the time indicated in the picture, huh? Not that you'll believe me but my on screen time when I took that photo was an hour and 15 minutes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt30:
For all the haters gon hate.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
Its photoshoped

Jk jk. ;-)

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChongoDroid:
Yeah, it is nice to have decent battery life and I've gotten ridiculously fast hspa speeds, now whether that's Fido/Rogers upgrading right as I switched phones I dunno. My sgs2 on the same network got 7down 1.5 up my gnex got 9 down 2.3up.

However reports of LTE gnex getting 30 even 40 down give me a cyber boner... no getting around those.. I will definitely get a 4g phone next upgrade.

Sent from my Google phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
By the time you upgrade, X networks might be populated and those speeds might come down.

Kind of waiting for verizon lte network to get saturated and see how much speeds taper off to. If speeds taper off to hspa speeds, and significant improvement is not made to lte radio battery consumption, lte might only have a one up with reception.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mark manning:
they will be moving to voice over lte by then

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rc_enzo:
A good friend of mine has a Desire S. He accidentally switched the system language from Dutch to English, and now can't find the Dutch setting anymore. It just disappeared from the list. He's running gingerbread, the most recent update.

Hope you can help.

Gr. Rc_enzo

Requesting this topic to be moved the proper forum, didn't scroll long enough... :D