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[Xoom General] ghodzilla5150:
I was trying to be cool to voice me opinion on a DEVICE I BOUGHT from Moto (which will be my LAST - BTW). But those two are instructed not to allow for that device to be put in a Negative Light. There is already a Post of Why the Asus Transformer got ICS 1st on their Crappy Forum. I bet the OP got a Warning already and was told to Shut Up about it.

You still have NOT found where I BAD Mouthed my OTHER Devices like you said I do. Remember, it's my Pattern;)
[Xoom General] nubsors:
I'm going to have to agree with this post even if it is a bit harsh. The reality is that we have working roms of ICS that have nearly everything working including the camera and HDMI. I don't understand what people are complaining about. This tablet was meant for developers and developers have been working hard on getting custom roms out for it. Theres already a CM9 for it. C'mon guys, quit complaining and enjoy this development spring that has popped up since the ICS source got released.
[Xoom General] ghodzilla5150:
Oh, I am sooooooooo Sorry you NEVER heard Bad Language Before. I won't offend your Virgin ears anymore. Who cares what you think anyways. What a person says on a Message Board does NOT mean that's how they speak in Real Life, or are you too Dumb to understand that.

I have been on here for awhile and learned ADB from XDA and also learned to Root my OG EVO from here. 1st Myn's ROM, then Synergy SC2. Also learned how to Root a Nook Color from XDA. I really like XDA and tell people about this site all the time. But I DON'T have to put up with the BS from Moto/Google about ICS and the SD Card (STILL NOT WORKING WITHOUT ROOT OR THE PC) and my Expensive Xoom. I am pretty sure I am NOT the ONLY one. SO I am NOT gong anywhere. If you don't like the conversation, YOU go somewhere else. I have learned ALOT from this site and enjoy it ALOT:D
[Xoom General] got556:
How old are you? No seriously...how old are you? Grow up.
[Xoom General] ghodzilla5150:
This is the Exact reason Apple is KILLING Android with the iPad. They have just 1 Device and are Kicking Butt with it, you know why, IT JUST WORKS OUT OF THE BOX. Until Android gets to that point it will stay Stagnant. The CUSTOMER SHOULD NOT have to do ALL this Work just to get their Expensive Device to work correctly. Apple gets it, Google/Android does NOT.
[Xoom General] got556:
So go buy your Apple product and have fun circle jerking with the hipsters....
[Xoom General] Saintfyre:
I'm glad you're sorry, I at least know when to filter myself as I'm speaking amongst people I don't know so I want to come off as somewhat respectable. Unlike yourself...

I'm glad that XDA has been a hub of knowledge for you, it warms my heart. But still all you're doing is complaining. Complaining with no resolution is not productive. "Hi guys I'm hear to *****, look at me *****, wah wah wah". What is the point of this? And all you're complaining about is things that have already been addressed by rooting the device. I understand you're pissed off at Moto and Google, a lot of us were and still are. But coming here and ranting about it helps nothing. And it's not just you, it's everyone else that does it as well.

It's unfortunate that we come to a developers website to expand our knowledge and get all the latest goodies from the Dev's. But instead we have to filter through posts about this and that not working, and who's fault it is. Inundated with unhappy people voicing their complaints on a forum that has no interaction with the manufacturers of the device they're complaining about.

This is the last post I'll place in this thread but I just wanted to add my final word. The reason for targeting you in specific is your need in this specific thread for attention.
[Xoom General] vladtdr:
Please stay on topic:D
[Xoom General] ZanshinG1:
Just because there's a GED device which is theoretically first in line for an update, there's nothing whatsoever preventing another company from executing and delivering a new OS to their device first once the source drops into the AOSP repository.

However, early releases of Android tend to be a bit flaky. I wouldn't be too jealous over this. Particularly when it looks like we're getting our releases soon(tm).

I'd be interested to see if the Transformer Prime's build of ICS is more or less flaky than the official release from Google/Moto for the Xoom.

I've had a few friends with the Prime having horrible wifi signal issues, possibly due to the aluminum block body, so the hardware release has already been less than spectacular.
[Xoom General] mjohnk11:
No, this is no where near the reason why Apple still has the lead share in the tablet market space (it's 75% apple 25% android or around there last time I checked before the Fire was released). It's all because of the consumer view towards the Apple brand. Apple has always had a "cool" view towards it, but after it released the iPod it became a true brand that people wanted to associate with SOLELY because of the name. It's just like North Face or Abercrombie & Fitch, it's a status symbol. Apple knew that the next logical step after releasing an iPhone would be the iPad and people would dig it up because of the image. Apple has amazing marketing skills and knows how to leverage their brand name, something sadly that Motorola does not (Samsung has been starting to figure it out now, though).

Google has a completely different view, their main target for their early devices are naturally engineers or those technologically inclined to be early adapters. Google has always liked to release things and then work on them as they go, rather than waiting a long time to put out a completely finished product (Microsoft is huge into this). So pick the strategy that you like best and fits with you best, obviously you did not pick right.

Also, did you honestly say that you have a Playbook and have not once complained about it?? EVERY single owner has complained about the failure of promised updates, and the fact that it still can't really do much. RIM is dead in the water because it fails to change, face that fact.

The reason that write to the SD card still doesn't work is because the Xoom is a GED, Google has not released a solution within the stock software because it was looking for one that would work for everything. Motorola could not implement a fix because it was a GED and was not allowed to mess with the software. Also, the reason why the Xoom never really sold so well because Motorola never marketed it or priced it right for general consumption, the only people who would buy it were those that loved being early adopters. I'm happy to be an early adapter and absolutely love my tablet and the fact that it's opened source and unlocked. If you're not going to take advantage of the boot loader being unlocked that's your fault. Back to Motorola, they still do not see that they cannot compete at a premium level with Apple because they don't have the brand name. Hopefully Google, after the buy out, will fix this and bring their prices down and boost the name.

And, are you honestly complaining that a brand new tablet that was designed with ICS in my mind got it before the Xoom??? I don't see any Nexus S owners complaining about the Galaxy Nexus getting it before them.

Either way stop cussing and complaining it makes you come off as an ignorant prick.
[Xoom General] vladtdr:
Yes they evolved, but it is not fair that we will be left behind and the new tablets will come and take over and the support for us that bought 1st generation tablets will be gone, look at apple they support a product 3 yrs after they launched it, the motorola xoom is an year old...the prime getting this update is like Samsung galaxy s II Getting ICS before Nexus S. It is exactly the same, but this will not happen. SGS2 is newer than nexus s and more powerfull, just like the prime but google, but google has already released ics for nexus s so i guess they decided to do right in the smartphone world and piss on us tablet users
[Xoom General] mjohnk11:
Then why do people never complain when new phones come out with new software while older ones have to wait to be upgraded. Yes, this includes Apple. Apple does not have a 3 year upgrade policy, as far as upgrading their older hardware most of it couldn't handle the latest iteration of IOS. It actually made the experience worse. Not to mention that the software ONLY changes once a year.

The Transformer Prime was made with ICS in mind, in fact it was even supposed to LAUNCH with ICS for awhile. It's the new tablet which came out with the new software. Other tablets will have to wait to be upgraded. Xoom in all likely hood will be the first of the first generation tablets to be upgraded, so there is no argument here. New hardware comes out with new software because the cost benefit for the manufacturer is the greatest there, you cannot ask a manufacturer to put new products on hold to push out updates to old hardware first (they cannot make money on that old hardware anymore). All you can ask is that it does get upgraded, if they put all their resources into old hardware, they go bankrupt.

Getting the newest software on the oldest hardware is the job of the DEVs, and I'm very thankful we have amazing ones for the Xoom.
[Xoom General] okantomi:
I think the PRIME in the TFPrime's name is because it is the first to get the current new OS, just as the Xoom was the first to get Honeycomb. I don't know if the TF Prime is supposed to be a Google Experience Device or if it is skinned, but with a broken GPS and poor wifi it kind of fails as a GED (IIRC, normally Google wouldn't even let a device without GPS have access to the Market). Is it skinned, does anyone know?
[Xoom General] vladtdr:
Not 1 tablet presented on CES has ICS on it so this new hardware gets new software thing you say doesn't apply to Android
[Xoom General] RobBull69:
Motorola has not been able to leverage its name since the block phone/pager era. It is sad seeing the company that was always cutting edge fade and give up its dominant market share to Nokia and other competitors, especially because my mother, grandmother and godmother all worked there for 20+ years. RIM is going through the same exact scenario right now and they need an overhaul to have a chance of surviving another 5 years. I had a Playbook for about 12 hours and had buyers' remorse about half an hour after unboxing it. Great hardware with terrible software. The only positive things to say about the Playbook are the screen is great and the browser is the snappiest I've used, regardless of OS. As the previous poster had mentioned, the iPad is more of a status symbol and fashion accessory. As far as a true multi-tasking device, the Xoom is still one of the best tablets out there. I use it for work and regularly have 5-6 apps running at a time when I work on the train, all of which are third-party apps. I don't have to worry about the OS killing the apps because of faux multi-tasking. Also, there's no crapware and skin to slow it down. That was why I chose the Xoom over the Galaxy Tab. The Prime is a beast from a hardware standpoint, but doesn't live up to its specs in real-life use. Moto has been notoriously bad with updates, so it is not surprising to see a competitor beat them to the punch. Google all but handed them a complete OS minus a few drivers. I have noticed that the SD card is flaky regardless of ROM, which again is not surprising given the fact that both Nexus devices running ICS don't have external storage. This could be what is holding up a release from Moto because the camera and HDMI work flawlessly for me. I am more than happy with my decision to buy the Xoom over other tabs and, fortunately, since it is a GED device Moto can't drag their heels for too long. If the Xoom had Blur, we probably wouldn't be getting an update until fall.
[Xoom General] NeoteriX:
Where does it say the Xoom is a "nexus" product? I don't believe it is, just that it runs stock Honeycomb.
[Xoom General] mjohnk11:
Actually if you would have just done a quick search you would realize that isn't true in the least. There were a lot of tablets revealed with ICS, granted most of them were by no-name companies selling cheap tablets.

Either way whether there were or were not ICS tablets at CES has nothing to do with my argument. The Prime is a NEW tablet, therefore it has NEW software as a selling point. The Xoom is an OLD tablet, and therefore must be upgraded from it's original software with less of an emphasis on speed and development resources because of the business model behind it. If you want Motorola to stay in business and continually support the Xoom, which will see Jellybean when it finally becomes released, then quit demanding that they stop developing new products and push out the software immediately. Especially since there is more than one company involved in this software upgrade.

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It never was a "nexus" product, just a GED. Either way I own a Galaxy Nexus and I see no one on the forums over there complaining about the fact that it hasn't been updated to 4.03 yet. Why? Because, it's a development device with an unlocked bootloader. Anybody on XDA basically has rooted it and installed a custom ROM.
[Xoom General] ghodzilla5150:
Who said I liked Apple Products A-Hole. You made an ASSUMPTION and you know what happens when you do that. Idiot Fanbois can't get over the fact that Apple knows what they are doing. I am NOT an Apple Fan because of their Eco System and how they Lock Down everything. Obviously they know what they are doing because they sell a Crap load of iPad's. They understand the CUSTOMER 100% better than Google/Android. That's what I was getting at. If you don't like that, well then you know what you can do.

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Whatever. I happen to like the Playbook. As soon as OS Ver 2.0 comes out, all those complaining will Shut Up as it's going to add alot. I use it more than my Magical Xoom.

As far as the SD Card BS you Spewed, I DON'T buy that Crap for one minute. My HTC EVO View AND Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0 can access the SD Cards in them internally using ES File Explorer with NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. It's just Google knows you guys DON'T care and will take as long as they want because they know they have a bunch of Suckers who won't Stand Up and speak out.

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This is such BS. It's NOT the job of the Devs, BUT THE JOB OF THE COMPANY THAT SOLD THE DEVICE!!!!!!! What a Bunch of Suckers here. This is why Moto/Google is dragging their feet because of this Idiotic attitude. They need to update THEIR Device(s), NOT the Devs on this site. What a Stupid way of looking at things.
[Xoom General] mjohnk11:
Lol first off you are using the exact opposite argument for the playbook as you are for the xoom. You're complaining how the xoom does not have some functionality which was not originally promised while you're defending the playbook which WAS PROMISED TO HAVE THE FUNCTIONALITY ON A DATE THAT HAS COME AND PASSED.

And the sd card roble os a fact. Motorola cannot change googles code.

And, yes it is the jobs of the des to release new rooms. Motorola has no responsibility to push the new software, but they will when it is ready. You need to go back to school and take some business clases or maybe even some logic ones.
[Xoom General] Lothaen:
I thought that was kinda the point of the open source-ness... but they can't change it on the GED... just the non-GED?

anyway - lets put all the arguments aside for now?
[Xoom General] ghodzilla5150:
Are you REALLY this STUPID. You really believe that it's the Dev's job on this site to keep your Device (Xoom) up to date. You are a TRUE Sucker and the kind of Chump that companies LOVE. You make THEM UPDATE THEIR DEVICE(s). BTW - I do have a Degree in Engineering from ASU (Arizona State University) and have been in the IT Field for 15+ Years (I am an IT Manager) and if a company expected me to find a solution for THEIR Device from XDA, 1st, I would NEVER do Business with them AGAIN (I am in charge of getting IT Equipment installed and taken care of). 2nd, I would get their Crap out of my 3 Plants ASAP and go with someone who backs their devices (Say Apple, just for Example, we are Actually Testing iPad's to use instead of Thin Clients, IF We can get the iPad to use JDE/Oneworld, then the Ipad we will be using. Looks like we will have to wait until the iPad 3 as I have been working closely with Apple and we need Security Holes Patched Up). I have a 32GB iPod Touch (3rd Gen) and when I had issues with it Twice, they took care of it THAT VERY SAME DAY. Went to the Store and witin 30 minutes it was back up and running (this was after installing iOS5 and one of their other Firmware Updates). After this BS with Moto and the Xoom, I had their AP's and Switches taken out of my Plants and went with Cisco. It was time to update my Plants as the equipment was at least 8 years old and we wanted to go Wireless N. Adios Moto. They lost ALOT of Money.

Man, make Moto/Google responsible for their Darn Xoom and NOT the Incredible Dev's on this site. It's NOT their job. It's Moto/Google's job as Moto took your Money NOT the Dev's on XDA. STOP being a SUCKER.
[Xoom General] liftman-:
best thread of the year. lol
[Xoom General] ghodzilla5150:
Why, because you DON'T understand what I am talking about. Do you even know what JDE/Oneworld is without Googling it 1st. I can't wait to get Rid of those old Thin Clients (I Highly Doubt you know what those are as well)
[Xoom General] liftman-:
was not attacking anyone!

no I do not know what it is without gooing it. but do you know how a modern computerized elevator controller works? (you will not be able to goo it). are you able to write code for it or a simple loading script for it? can you grab a hand full of relays and make it meet code?

we all have different jobs, I'm sure if I invested time I could do yours ....

man you need to smoke a joint and mellow out. (please don't drink in your current state of mine, you might kill someone) lol
[Xoom General] got556:
ghodzilla, you must be a blast at parties and family events. :rolleyes:

And yes I'm feeding the troll.
[Xoom General] ghodzilla5150:
Smoking Joints is for Losers (just my personal opinion). Actually I do know PLC Controller Logic, if that's what you are asking. I Manage 3 Manufacturing Plants (BY MYSELF). ALL IT that's done is be me ALONE. I have 450 End-Users, 250 Workstations (Desktops, Laptops, Blackberries (including BES). I take care of 2 Plants in California and 1 in Vancouver/Richmond, Canada (go there twice a year for FREE). I do ALOT of Remote Work. Just got thru installing Office 2010 and Win 7. I of course was the test subject and got all that Software for FREE (even for my home PC's:D That's a cool Perk. I set up Servers, AP's, Switches and IDF Closets (using Fiber). I make my own RJ45 Cat 5 & 6 Cable. Take care of the PBX (which I have to buy a new one, Man they are Expensive, looking at $50,000, just for one. Converted the Plants to use Wireless N 2.4 & 5 GHz. I have a Cool Job.

Unfortunately, I just got back after 6 months and have alot of straightening up to do. I had a 2nd Back Surgery (Dual Level Fusion on my Bottom Two Discs and 6 Facet Joints). I take 75MCg of Fentanyl, Hydromorphone (4MG) and Valium (for Muscle Spasms). I would not wish that kind of pain on my worse enemy.

You guys are cool, it's just the Meds get to me at times. Have a Nice Day:D
[Xoom General] got556:
Honestly your complaints are somewhat valid in my books, it's just the way you project those complaints leave a lot to be desired...
[Xoom General] ChongoDroid:
If smoking joints makes you a loser then its because pot got there first. A plant that makes you silly, food taste better, sex feel better... yeah and that's what made you a loser lol. If it wasn't pot it would've been cheeseburgers and scratch tickets
[Xoom General] liftman-:
plc out long time ago

sorry you have to use any microsoft products, better solutions are available.

you do have a cool job.

the weed would not only ease all your back problems it would also boost the effects of your current meds allowing you to take much less, with no danger of addiction(to the weed). I could post good scientific studys for above clams- really a good med

I do hope you feel better been on a similar boat.
[Xoom General] wacky.banana:
Looks like this one has run its course. Many thanks for your input.

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[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neobirdrio:
Hello guys

Anybody could suggest me what the best app to monitoring which application on android that consume more battery 'battery drainer app'.

I want 3rd party app, anyone can suggest me?

Thanks

Rom : Official MIUI 2.1.6

Kernel : Xcell-69X

Modem : XXKP8

Sent from Galaxy SII
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veyka:
This monitors battery use

Also there is an app called betterbatterystats (link in my sig) can tell you whats keeping your phone awake (consuming battery)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neobirdrio:
I just installed the app you told me, i wanted to know the best monitoring apps for battery.. Seems like i got 1 from you, thank you buddy,

Do you use that app too?

Rom : Official MIUI 2.1.6

Kernel : Xcell-69X

Modem : XXKP8

Sent from Galaxy SII
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veyka:
I don't use the app myself, but i have heard that it is good, also it may not detect your battery mAh correctly, so you may have to manually set it.
[HTC EVO 3D] bradley26:
Does anyone have a mirror for this zip?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ciddy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xDDxMusFK9E

Updated with proper link. Just stumbled onto this. Seems legit, it was only linked through Tech in Style, an Asus blog.

"This will be available very soon."

I'm really pissed at Asus about this whole experience.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8GNdQm0So

This shows the plastic back.

What do you guys think for the tradeoff? $100 for an uglier plastic backing (just for wifi and gps, although I'm having no issues with my wifi and gps atm) with a 1080P on a tablet with only a 10'' screen?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dpwhitty11:
That **** is ugly.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Pizza4Breakfast:
The back looks terrible IMO.

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QFT.

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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeptikal:
Hmmm...I kind of like how it looks...lol Am I weird?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Buddy Revell:
They probably rushed the fabrication of that plastic back just to get it in time for CES. It looks terrible.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HuskerWebhead:
Here's the important question on this video. What the F**K is up with that god awful music? It's like tenth level of hell hold music.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ciddy:
updated video link, unlisted video.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] d1ez3:
I like how the back looks. I don't know why, the black strip looks good to me
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
I think it looks really bad compared to the Prime^^ Also it seems waaay thicker on those pictures. Could be due to the high resolution display? Or it could just seem that way because of the picture.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ciddy:
Must be the picture as they claim T201 and TF700T use the same dock mount. The dock mount has front and rear guide/stabilization rims which the TF700T has to fit between, so it must be same height/thickness.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ToneyEricsson:
Does anyone know must you use a sim card inside the 3G Prime to get better working WiFi or will it have better WiFi performance just by using WiFi only over the original Prime?

WiFi only is really all I need just trying to work out if its possible to use the 3G version as WiFi only.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrKaon:
yes you can use 3G version instead of Wifi.