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[Asus Transformer TF700] ToneyEricsson:
Apparently there wont be a keyboard with the newer Prime and won't be in the UK.

"Sadly there are no plans to bring it to the UK and it will not be coming with a Transformer-like keyboard dock or be able to plug into the 10.1-inch Transformer dock either, or so we're told. We're looking forward to seeing how this one straightens itself out. Stay tuned."

Heres the source

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43809/asus-transformer-prime-hd-ces
[Asus Transformer TF700] Danny-B-:
I think they mean the 7" wont be coming to the UK ... and the 7" wont be able to plug into the prime dock....
[Asus Transformer TF700] NoTrix:
Exactly. Price has not been reduced in the States yet, either. I think because we are "Early Adopters" we get a little myopic about what the masses are doing. These tablet (and gadgets, for that matter) manufacturers already know they have our business. We are loyal to a brand, an OS, etc. They are going for the masses, i.e., those folks who would purchase a Kindle Fire because of Amazon's marketing program. How many of us here thought that the Fire would be so successful? Not many, I bet, based on the specs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] clouds5:
I've been away from this forum for a week or so. What happened?

Guess i have to wait another 2-3 months until only the USERS of the Prime stay around and all the trollz have gone away.

There's one thing most of you dont think about.

-EVERY sold Tegra3 device is good for Prime users.

-EVERY Android device sold with a keyboard dock (lenovo or Asus alike) is good for Prime users.

Why? The wider the hardware is spread the more Software devs get interested. And this resuluts in many cool tegra3 (console like graphics!) games and stuff like really good Word/Excel text input apps for android.

Which device to buy? Who cares. Cant you guys just think about what features are important for you and buy accordingly? Do you need a 1080p display? If yes - why!? Do you plan on using high quality image processing apps like photoshop? Or do you think your **** grows if you have it? I dont wanna say dont get a 1080p tablet - all i'm saying is you should think about what you really need and why.

sry for being harsh but reading this thread made me angry :) I'm out of here again^^ See you in some weeks or months when things cooled down here.
[Asus Transformer TF700] kls629:
it doesn't make my **** grow? - im out then
[Asus Transformer TF700] MrKaon:
they are talking about 7 inch tablet not 10.1 HD Version
[Asus Transformer TF700] ToneyEricsson:
Yeah I gathered that now lol sorry I read it a bit fast.

Something I saw is what the new Prime back looks like you can see it in this video from CES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMXrTSHR_J4

Looks like they have gone away from the spun finish with the back material.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] buxtahuda:
Lol, so the newer more expensive model looks all retro 'n cheap, while the more affordable option seems more premium. I just can't wait to see what everyone complains about when it hits the front porches as well.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ToneyEricsson:
Yeah I would of thought there would be a nice big shiny ASUS logo in the middle.
[Asus Transformer TF700] lancer3397:
I thought I might point out my observation of the TF700.

is it more or does that look like a Transformer TF101 style construction?

look at how thick the side of the tablet is. the Prime is much thinner, more curved and has no straight edge to it.

based on that photo I can't see how the TF700 would be compatible with a prime dock.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ChristoA1:
So much this. My brain is racked on whether or not I'm interested in replacing my Prime with a 7" model...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ryco26:
The TF700T is real, on video & has a 10.1'' screen.

Here's a youtube link to the new Asus TF700T being shown off in a video. youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xDDxMusFK9E#!
[Asus Transformer TF700] ChristoA1:
Double post. Derp, XDA.
[Asus Transformer TF700] hlenforcer:
Today i read another interesting fact about TF700, sorry i only have it in german, so pls use Google Translate:

TF700 only a technical study, not for sale

an ASUS owned yt channel
[Asus Transformer TF700] Underwater Mike:
FWIW, the Slashgear gaming demo looks smooth as hell on the 700 -- not like it's having trouble with frame rates. The demo may not be representative, but it still looks promising.

On a related note, anyone who uses swiping between desktop pages as a demonstration of video power should be strung up by his nads.
[Asus Transformer TF700] nslayden:
I'll be keeping mine, it doesn't look like trash.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ToneyEricsson:
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I hope they do it in grey that does look disgusting :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] ChristoA1:
Guys, keep in mind that it's *very* likely that the actual design of the patterning of the outside will change between now and when the product is released. In order to make it in time for CES, they needed to quickly put together a "product" that:

• Is functional (i.e., it turns on, works, etc)

• Is sized "right" (i.e., shows that yes, a 1080p display can fit within certain dimensions)

• Shows off the new bar at the top

Again, the outside design could easily change. And yes, it could easily stay the same. But if I were a betting man, I'd put $20 on the outside being made to look nicer for production.

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In any case, there's a very high chance I'll be interested in switching from the TF201 to a 370T... :P
[Asus Transformer TF700] poofyhairguy:
A better example is here:

Compare the 3GS to the iPhone 4. Same GPU, twice the Res. Then you consider that the CPU in the 4 is faster while the high Res Prime will have the exact same SoC.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ToneyEricsson:
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It looks like the card slot is still open - I would of thought they could close it to stop cards falling out as mentioned by some people with the TF201

Full hands on photos here

http://www.engadget.com/photos/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-tf700t-hands-on-0/
[Asus Transformer TF700] thisisriki:
CHANGE

Where I have to go to to join : change our prime with the TF700 movement.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
The microSD cards aren't "falling out," if I'm not mistaken. Rather, they stick out and so they're hitting something which is triggering the spring mechanism and they're popping out. So, it's not that the slot is open that's the problem, it's that it's not deep enough and/or the TF201's taper is exposing the edge of the card.

I think the TF700 doesn't seem to have the same sharp taper as on the TF201. Also, they could have made the well deeper. Bottom line, there's no way to know if a microSD card will actuall stick out and thus be prone to being ejected.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ChristoA1:
http://www.change.org/petitions/jon...fix-or-replace-transformer-prime-model-tf201#
[Asus Transformer TF700] bestco:
higher resolution does make a big difference for many. You'll be able to view higher resolution pictures in more details when you zoom in. Graphics editing benefits from a higher resolution display as well. I personally look forward to this feature more than anything else.
[Asus Transformer TF700] tq745:
yeah all we need is a good photo editing program
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
I'm not sure why there's still a debate over the resolutions. There will be (and was, I'm 99% certain, always going to be) a tier of products: TF700 at the high end, T201 in the middle, TF101 on the low end, for 10.1" tablets.

So there shouldn't be a debate between who wants the TF700 and who wants the TF201. Whoever wants higher res but potentially lower performance, for $100 more, would have always bought the TF700, while those who want potentially better performance, and/or want to save $100, would have always gotten the TF201.

I think the ONLY problem that anyone should have with the TF700's announcement is that ASUS has apparently made attempts to mitigate radio problems in the case design. That's it, and it has NOTHING to do with screen resolution.
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
You will need to attach a magnifying glass over your TF700T that will magnify it's 10.1" inch screen to 30.1" in order to see the detail 1080p resolution will bring.

as far as that case of the TF700T goes, it is indeed the same shape as the TF201, it just looks funny because it' doesn't have the cool metal look the Transformer Prime has.

I think I'm going to keep with the TFP, despite it's minor problems, they are kind of minor. I think my gripes are more with ICS and Android being so far back in the stone age as far as its user friendly goes when compared to Windows 7 that I have issue with. No newer designed tablet is going to change that.

Besides, I actually like that the Transformer Prime is the only tablet computer there made of metal, and now that ASUS is not manufacturing it anymore, it's limited launch release will now enter it into rare find collectors territory.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Arun01:
I'm getting 1 when it comes out. I personally think Asus should replace all the TF201's.

Wow I see in the pictures they STILL didn't put a 2nd speaker on the new prime..omg! Who designs these things?! A 1920x1200 screen & only 1 speaker .......come on Asus.
[Asus Transformer TF700] clouds5:
How do you guys know if and when this tablet's coming out in this form? Its just a prototype 1080p display model^^ It could be another year until something like this hits the stores. It could be that the 1080p panel manufacturers have problems mass producing these insane displays. It could be very expensive. It could have GPS problems. It could have dead pixels. It could have very bad battery life.

With the prime at least you _know_ you get an almost perfect tablet with some GPS issues and not the best wifi. Everything about the TF700T is pretty much in the dark. It doesnt even have an official name yet.

But oh well wait if you must, but why do you have to spam this forum with endless TF700T threads? Sorry for the harsh words but this is my opinion: If you dont like the prime and dont plan on buying it: Get the f... out of here.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Huh? What makes you think ASUS isn't making the Prime any longer? I'd say the ongoing delivery of new stock belies that assertion...
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
Two speakers, one location. Just to be precise...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Arun01:
.....2 speakers & 1 location ='s fail on a newly designed transformer prime.I have the prime & I like it but wake up.
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
over the past few weeks, we've seen threads with news from retailers that ASUS discontinued the Transformer Prime, and then right after news of a new redesigned Transformer Prime, which is now not called Transformer Prime but a 10.1" TF700T that looks similar to the og TFP and a 7" tablet called Prime.

I won't hold breath to the thought that TFPs being sold right now is remaining manufactured stock.

It would be suicide for them to continue to produce TFP in it's current defective state.
[Asus Transformer TF700] oxyris:
Sorry if this was already discussed in this thread before, but this German site is saying that Asus said that the TF700T will only ship around Christmas 2012.

For those who can read German: http://www.tabtech.de/android-bzw-g...uck-wegen-dem-asus-eee-pad-transformer-tf700t

Is this official? I didn't find any other sources mentioning that (i.e. all sites refer to Q2 2012).
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
As I said, just being precise. I didn't comment on whether or not it's optimal.

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Um, well, you know, the TF700 isn't a "newly redesigned Prime", it's a new model entirely that's going to cost $100 more. It's also not going to be released until Q2 (I'd guess, late Q2 or early Q3 in reality).

That means that if ASUS has actually halted production of the Prime, then they'll have nothing to sell in the 10.1" space but the original Transformer for anything from 3-6 months.

THAT would be suicide.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Arun01:
I was planning on sticking with the prime & I most likely still will since i just got the keyboard dock (typing on it now :D ) but i was hoping that newly designed would be a step up in the speaker location.The Lenovo tablet has 2 speakers facing the user,which is impressive to go along with the great screen.Hopefully when Asus releases the final 700 Prime they will figure a way to include 2 speakers (1 on each side).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mubble:
I think the 700 will be available without the keyboard dock. Seeing as it uses the same dock as the existing Prime, and customers are likely to upgrade to the 700, this would make sense.

Personally I don't need the keyboard dock so this would suit me. Could mean the dock-less version should be available for $499 perhaps.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Star Shadow:
Remember, we still don't know if the 700 has GPS since it was never mentioned on the spec sheet. I am thinking that they only put the WiFi radios under the black bar and the GPS will still function the same as on the Prime. So, the only upgrade is the screen, really.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ChristoA1:
Assuming it has GPS at all... Quite honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mithent:
On the other hand, Asus have repeatedly stated that the TF201 is not discontinued, and you'd think that if anyone had heard about that, they themselves would know. Additionally, Asus have said that the TF700T does not replace the TF201: rather, the TF700T is considered a higher-spec SKU and the TF201 will continue to be sold alongside it. And the TF700T won't be released for months.

I'm not saying that they won't make changes to future revisions of the TF201 hardware (although I'm not saying they will, either). But there are no indications from Asus themselves that the TF201 is going to be discontinued - quite to the contrary. This appears to be rumour and speculation driven by the more Schadenfreude-enamoured members of the community.

GPS is bad, so Asus have stopped advertising it - it's not an issue for future sales (though I do believe that anyone who bought one advertised with GPS should be entitled to a refund if they need that feature). Wi-Fi could be stronger, but it's adequate and is no worse than an iPad: the mere fact that something could be better doesn't make it broken. The Bluetooth+Wi-Fi issue is common to many devices. The only really big issue with the TF201 is the GPS, and now they've stopped advertising it as having GPS functionality (just like Wi-Fi iPads have no GPS, hidden away in the spec sheets), there's no reason why they can't keep selling the device as it stands.
[Asus Transformer TF700] MHoefler:
Isn't GPS a requirement for Android? At least for the apps in the market? I think I remember reading something like this - to make a device certified for the android market, Google requires them to support GPS (I guess for the many location based services and the local advertisements).

So if GPS is required to be fully compliant, Asus will need to fix this with a new hardware revision of the TF201 - and the new TF700 also has to feature GPS (but I'm sure it will).

Regards!
[Asus Transformer TF700] ChristoA1:
Keep in mind, it was ASUS that said that they did not push out the ICS update ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
It's not...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21079549&postcount=125
[Asus Transformer TF700] PrimalNexus:
What does this mean?
[Asus Transformer TF700] sdelliott31:
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.......

I SURE hope that if people are unhappy with their primes and return or sell it, dont go back in a few months and BUY from ASUS again? I mean really, then you are the real fool. If you are that unhappy, hold the company accountable don't be a lemming!
[Asus Transformer TF700] ChristoA1:
lol, some dumb customer reps at ASUS insisted that they had *not* pushed out the ICS update. So I'm just saying, even from the company itself you're going to get some mixed (and some very wrong) information :P
[Asus Transformer TF700] jyan_osu:
It's not uncommon for a customer rep to not be in tuned with company, especially on quick time frame items. Unless they are trained they don't know and sometimes they only get monthly manuals to update them. Most seasoned folks on XDA should know this by now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ChristoA1:
Oh, I know. But we're talking about a rep that completely pulled stuff out of her ass that didn't make *any* sense, rather than trying to find out. The only point I'm making is that nothing should be taken as concrete, regardless if it came from someone at the company.
[Asus Transformer TF700] just lou:
Take it for what it's worth, someone just posted a review on Amazon that states Asus agreed to RMA his Prime, and replace the back with a TF-700 back , to fix the wifi and GPS issue.

"contacted Asus and first off, the best customer service i have ever had. but i asked them if they could replace the metallic back panel with the plastic backing off the new prime 700. THEY CAN! and so I am sending in mine free of charge to get the plastic back that will resolve the wifi/gps issues. i will keep this updated when i receive my prime to determine if this works. they believe it will and so do I. "
[Asus Transformer TF700] jrwingate6:
I am having a hard time believing that individual. Not only did Asus add that plastic piece on the top but hey also most likely ran the antennas up to the top as well. They would most likely have to replace this individuals antennas as well as it won't do any good if they are not up top directly behind that plastic.
[Asus Transformer TF700] fingery:
All 3 antennas are across the top of the device (when held portrait)
[Asus Transformer TF700] bimbobo:
Mine is on its way with mail.

I bought it from Amazon DE.

Can it be that the new batches they send out are maybe better than the first ones sent out?

I signed the petition already because in any case, it's bad policy to make a new model instead of "helping" those who already bought it and have troubles or missing "advertized features".

What is the "experience" here in this forum, is the wifi of the TF201 as good as the IPad2?

If not, what do you suggest? :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
the signal quality is comparable to the iphone 4.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gogol:
I want the TF700 with more battery capacity to support the increased screen resolution... Or... The TF201 with the modified back plate like TF700.

I tend to go with the TF700.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gogol:
It should have GPS for access to the Android Market.
[Asus Transformer TF700] CraigGB:
I think some users seem to be over justifying waiting for the TF700 which suggests doubt to me :p, not everyone, I'm not trying to start a arguement, just every other thread seems to be full of people telling others to wait for the TF700 and well it seems like a bit of a bandwagon to flame the 201 now, in the end its going to be at least 4 months untill the TF700 and it will retail for £100 more, so someone can buy a prime today for £500 use it for 4 months before those who are waiting for the TF700 who will buy a tablet thats being released at what is likely a half way point in the prime range flagship lifetime, in another 6 months after it is released its possible the transformer 3 and tegra 4 or whatever will be inside it will be very close and chances are they will launch at around the same price point as the TF700 or the prime whith quite the performance bump meaning the TF700 won't stay the flapship for very long at all.

this is just my take on it as there seems to be a lot of backlash towards the 201

personally mine is pretty good, wifi and BT included which are on par with my Macbook Pro and Galaxy S, GPS is weak when moving but stood still indoors or outdoors I can get a decent lock in around 30 - 60 seconds

from the looks of things the resolution difference will only really be noticable having the two side by side, everything I have read from people who have seen 1080p screens on 10 inch tablets have said the difference is underwhelming, it is there but its not a big difference

anyway sorry, I'm rambling on :p
[Asus Transformer TF700] ajkid93:
GPS isn't required for gaps and it never was. Ive been hearing this stupid rumor since I got the prime and visited the primes forums. Not once have I heard it anywhere else. Here's is an example of a tablet that lacks GPS and has the market via ota... wait for it... wait for it... its the viewsonic gtablet. By default it doesn't, but after I installed the honeycomb ota (official ota, not a custom rom).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Underwater Mike:
No offense, but I'm gonna call bull**** on the Amazon poster. Even if the part would fit -- a big assumption -- altering the Prime in this way would place the device out of spec with its FCC approval and open Asus to serious liability if the government became aware of the action. No way any company is going to assume that kind of exposure.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gogol:
Just wait till February 27 :)

http://www.mobileworldcongress.com/event-info

We will have more answers ...

Right now, if you own Prime already, and happy with it, then keep it.

If not, then return it, back to your old tablet or sit tight with your shinny phone :)

For me, if I own a Prime, I will return it before this kind of "bad stories" (non functioning GPS, weak WiFi, etc.) becoming bigger and bigger, which in the future might influence the "re-sale" value (if we want to sell it to buy a new one). That's me, my opinion :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] irishtexmex:
I plan on selling my TF201 (a champagne one I went through hell and back to get) to buy a TF700 when it comes out. Why?

Because I read a sh*t ton of text on my tablet. I am reading on it all the time, and that increased resolution will make the text much sharper. You are completely and utterly delusional if you think that won't be the case. We even have a prime example of that happening between the iPhone 3G and the iPhone 4, yet still some people ridicule the idea as stupid.

Anywho, I'll gladly take the performance hit in the games I don't play much and the videos I don't have a whole lot of time for watching if it means the jaggies that I can clearly see all over the UI become a thing of the past. Others have different usage patterns people.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ToneyEricsson:
I agree later when the new TF700T comes out the TF201 will be known as 'the one that had rubbish GPS and weak WiFi' which will effect the re-sale value and simply put there will be more interest in the newer TF700T being the flagship model.

Anyone know if the TF700T will be 3G ? Having better WiFi alone is what I'm looking for and an improvement in GPS would be good.
[Asus Transformer TF700] just lou:
I don't really believe it either, but I checked his other reviews, and he is a "verified buyer" of a case for the Prime, so it appears he at least owns one. Why he would make this up then, I don't know.
[Asus Transformer TF700] JoeyLe:
Yeah well, this is iPhone 3GS vs iPhone 4? That is a much bigger improvement then the 1920x1200 screen.

iPhone 3GS: 165 DPI

iPhone 4: 329 DPI

Transformer Prime: 149 DPI

Transformer TF700: 220 DPI
[Asus Transformer TF700] ToneyEricsson:
Yeah thats another drawback with the Prime text and images look pixelated. A sharper screen would make all the difference. I'm sending back my TF201 tomorrow and looking forward to the TF700T.
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
1920x1080 is overkill for a 10" anything, and you're not going to see the difference as you would comparing low res smartphones.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Evo_Shift:
You must have your faces pretty damn close when you are reading. It is only that obvious because it is blown up so much.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rsarno:
where can i see an example of this pixilation?

I just went to finance.yahoo.com and zoomed in as much as it would let me. I couldn't notice any pixels at all.

not saying screen is perfect, i just want to know how you are seeing it