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[Asus Transformer TF700] ToneyEricsson:
Just look at the screen I can see pixels, have noticed it more in choppy videos because of the duff WiFi.

I doubt Asus are putting a better screen on the TF700T just for the fun of it plus 1080p on tabs is 2012.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sectachrome:
You think the screen is bad because you can "see pixels" when watching a crappy streaming video? Alrighty. Some people won't be happy with anything.
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
The Transformer Prime screen is a flawless HD res IPS screen. The best screen on any tablet out today.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
prime has 160 dpi....can prove it

look at screen shot of real time specs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] xAnimal5:
It's an OCD-ish thing with some people. When they wait 6 months for the new TF700T and they start seeing "pixels" again, the whole process is gonna reverse itself.

BTW, to everyone who sees "pixels", I don't think that's possible unless you use a magnifying glass.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
what is this supposed to show? a before update screenshot of pwoersavings mode icon vs. a balanced LR normal mode one? lol. take it off of powersavings at it cuts down the contrast and sharpness of wallpapers n icons.
[Asus Transformer TF700] PersonOfKnownOrigin:
I think that's the iPhone 3GS vs. the iPhone 4 retina display...
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
that is a screenshot of the iphone 3G vs the iphone 4

http://snowball4u.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/iphone-4-retina-display/

he's trying to compare the 3G smartphone low-res screen to the high-res Prime screen. :D

I pointed this out a few posts back but nobody noticed.
[Asus Transformer TF700] crystalstylez:
I don't see the point of a 1920×1200 display on a 10.1 inch screen the resolution on the prime is fine the way is. Everything looks very crisp on the prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] irishtexmex:
You two are both missing the point. Of course the text is going to look super sharp when you zoom in on it. Think of how many pixels are available to draw a single letter when you do that...thousands per individual character.

Now extrapolate what I just said to a higher resolution screen. The whole point is that when I am not zoomed in there will be a higher number of pixels available to draw each character/letter which reduces the amount of artifacting attributed to aliasing. Think of it this way:

I'm on a webpage on a TF201 at the default zoom level. The letter "h" in a size 12 font only has 18 pixels in it (that's a completely random number).

Now on a TF700 that letter "h" would have 40 pixels in it, making for a much sharper image. This is not a random number (sort of); the 1920x1200 resolution has 2.25 times the amount of pixels of the TF201's 1280x800 screen. 18*2.25=40.5

This may be the most arrogant thing I have ever said, but... I think I have about 50 IQ points on you. Truly. Quit gunking up the forums with dumb crap over and over again. I wouldn't have even said anything if you weren't so boastful in your dismissal of someone else's post. Not to even mention the fact that your posts lack any substance. Anyway, that's all I have to say to you. You won't have to hear from me replying to you again.

I think what's happening is people misinterpreting that I don't think the screen is vibrant or colorful or sharp or all around great in general. Compared to every other tablet that's come out the Prime has an amazing screen. Sure, Bang & Olufsen produced a damn good standard definition television, but it doesn't mean that it wasn't less sharp than the first HiDef screen that came out afterwards.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jedi5diah:
pertaining to resolution in simple terms:

example:

1280x800 pictures look best on 1280x800 screen.

1920x1200 pictures look best on 1920x1200 screen.

1280x800 pictures look bad on 1920x1200 screen. (unless software enhanced will be better)

1920x1200 pictures still look good on 1280x800 screen

in other words the source must match or higher the output resolution :D

*Text base rendering the higher resolution ofcos better but not very visible to naked eye esp on same size screen.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sitter_k:
Read any TV buying guide and whether you should buy a 720p vs a 1080p tv.

Almost all will reference screen size when discussing resolution.

check cnet, can't post links as of yet i'm a noob
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mubble:
Those thumbnails resized to true size.

I don't disagree a higher res screen is better, but not that much better.
[Asus Transformer TF700] lgday:
There's ALWAYS gonna be something "better" in the next months after you get pretty much any tech thing

nice ，I like it
[Asus Transformer TF700] Nexcellent:
I just read this entire thread and it made my head hurt a bit but it did make me glad i didn't purchase the Prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] PujaGupta:
Build AOSP code for TF700T

Can anyone please summarise the steps to build aosp code for Asus transformer TF700T - There are two options under asus platform -grouper and tilapia, which one needs to be build exactly?
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
I don't think ASUS has even had much of a chance to resolve this issue. It's been widely recognize for, what, a week now? I know that seems like years to some people, but really it's only 7 days. If we go through the end of January and we don't have some news on how ASUS plans to handle the issue, then we'll have something to complain about.
[Asus Transformer TF700] nxp3:
Too hard on them? What the hell are you saying? To me I didn't compare it to the ipad. It doesn't matter to me what other tablets have or don't ahve. I bought the prime for what it say it has, so when it doesn't work properly, I only want it to work right. Who the heck are all these people telling me how I should use my tablet. How I shouldn't be using a 10 inch tablet for gps....If you don't, that's good for you, but to some of us who wants to that's our right. It doesn't matter who the hell explain the issue or how asus owns up. Until they get me a tablet with working one, or give me my money back, then it's not fixed. Some of us cannot return to seller. This thing is only a few weeks old, either asus take it back or or fix it. So they're not going to fix it, that leaves only one option left, return the money to people who would like it back.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
We have some indication that ASUS plans to do exactly this, offer refunds. So far they've only announced it in Taiwan, but I really doubt they'd limit such an offer to one country.

As I said in the post just before the one I'm responding to, I'd give ASUS a little time to work out the details before crucifying them.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Heerocon:
I didnt tell you how to use anything. I'm just saying the issue is very clear and doesn't need any more harping on. I understand your position thoroughly and I'm not opposed to however you wanna go about it, but heres what I'm saying:

There are a few ways you can deal with this issue aside from constantly posting about it and mucking up threads like these.

1. Call Asus and argue with them.

2. Sell your tablet for full price if not more on the secondhand market.

3. After either of those, get a new tab and stop talking about a dead issue. Asus is not going to fix it. They are not going to design a new tab to fix yours. They will probably not refund you in full. If you bought it at gamestop, you knew their return policy. If you didn't, you should have. If you aren't satisfied, by all means, get rid of it! I support you fully! I'm not even defending the prime! I just want to see more constructive comments instead of people just harping on an issue thats gotten all we can out of it. And if you wanna talk legal action towrd them, start another thread. Until any more news comes out on this issue, GPS is a NON ISSUE. It has been adressed by our community, Anandtech, several other blogs, and by the Manufacturer. So please, enough.
[Asus Transformer TF700] doeboy711:
What would be the ETA of this new so called TFP actually being on the market?
[Asus Transformer TF700] HuskerWebhead:
There was an article up earlier that said 2nd Qtr of 2012.....of course the article has been removed now. So, who knows.
[Asus Transformer TF700] astralmind:
I had not heard about that. I know Asus did offer refunds in Taiwan for the 1st batch that had defective Wifi but did not know about refunds for anything GPS related.

If that does happen, then great, I'd say Asus have done their part.

Until then though all we've got are rather arrogant statements coming from various Asus PR folks basically saying that "No one uses a tablet as a GPS so who cares ?" and them removing it from the feature list... + today the announcement of a "fixed version" in a few months for 100$ more.. so yeah, not very thrilled about the way things are unraveling right now.

The original iPad3g (and I hate Apple) had a design to accommodate the radio signals with a "plastic strip" on top... how could Asus not figure this out in QC in mind bugling
[Asus Transformer TF700] BongoBong:
I am not sure. Would definitely be nice, and probably cause a bit of an outrage if it comes out soon and they do not. But that would be setting themselves up for a pretty big loss I would imagine.

Unless the very similar specs is so that they can use the sent in primes and upgrade them to the 202 easily? Because unless they could use those sent in 201's somehow they would have basically sold 2 primes for 600$ which would probably be a pretty big loss for them.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
This rumored 1080p Asus tablet will be out to compete with Acer, Lenovo, and Samsung's Android tablet. If it does come out in Q2 (between April to June), it most likely means Prime TF 201 will decrease in production, or the cost will more or less could decrease to $400 range as entry lvl while promoting the 1080p tablet as the high end. Based on slashgear's article from few days ago, Asus is also planning 2 extra tablets towards the end of the year (excluding Win 8 tablet I believe.)

If it is true, Asus might be making similar market push like Samsung (and their variation form of tablets).
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
that one is a bust..lol higher resolution but less powerful processor. Even the guy said so. Lets see how well the less powered dual core 1.5Ghz qualcomm chip handles the higher resolution.
[Asus Transformer TF700] italia0101:
Yea I agree... I'm happy with my quad core tablet running Nvidia games at 800p ...
[Asus Transformer TF700] wynand32:
For people in the original window of purchasing a Prime before ASUS stopped marketing GPS (and that would include revising marketing materials at retailers, which to my knowledge hasn't been done yet), there's a real claim for fitness of purpose. If ASUS _doesn't_ offer some kind of compensation (again, in Taiwan at least, it's looking like a return policy and/or an extra 6 months of warranty) on their own, they'll be forced to do so by a much more expensive class action suit. I'm sure they know this.

I'm not even a fan of class action suits in general, but this one would make sense for folks who bought their Primes before ASUS made efforts to inform the market of the issue. For anyone who buys the Prime after all marketing of the GPS has ended, however, that would be a different story.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
Now if this one, Tf-700t turns out to be the real Prime revising with a higher Res display with tegra3, I sounder if original prime owners could exchange. Either way this is all still just rumour. improved design and everything is cool. But said thisvwont be out for at least half a year. It sounds like this is the Refresh that Prime was do for anyways. so it doesn't really sound like a revised OG transformer prime. sounds like the refresh that been was stated to come later in the year.

I think ill keep my prime which works great for me ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mithent:
A refresh in 6 months with a higher-resolution screen makes sense for Asus to compete with other 1080p+ tablets coming out in the coming year. And, presumably, they wouldn't make the same radio reception mistake again.

But to switch from Tegra 3 to a dual-core Qualcomm processor? I think someone has their wires crossed there... that sounds like a different product. Asus made a big deal about their quad-core tablet, and it would mean a substantial redesign to use a different SoC, rather than just swapping out the screen and modifying the case.
[Asus Transformer TF700] e.mote:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2475...ises_hires_display_for_transformer_prime.html
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
It seems like there's a couple of things going on...

1) The TF700 may not be a replacement for the Prime. In addition to the HD display it may have other features. Sound seems like it's going to be a big deal now with HTC using Beats and the new Acer tab has Dolby Mobile. So I'd guess the TF700 will be Asus' new high-end tablet.

2) The Prime is and will continue to be a great value at $499. 32MB of storage, a super-bright display, and a quad-core chip for that price should continue to attract people. Asus had to commit to quantities of the components to build it so killing it after three months would cost them a fortune. I'd guess it will be sold along side the TF700 as Asus' mid-range tablet.

3) They just announced ICS for TF1 soon after the Prime. An updated TF1 at $299 would be a great deal and could allow Asus to compete in the lower end of the market.

The post that had info from Asus Taiwan mentioned there would be a "next tablet." So the article that got pulled (which was awfully detailed) sort of fits with that. Depending on where and how the Verge got their information, Asus could have had them remove it. It may have been a draft of something marked "company confidential" which means even if it were accurate it couldn't be used by the media. It's possible Asus didn't want the info released until closer to the TF700's release for obvious reasons. All just guesses but from a marketing stand point they (or similar) would make sense.
[Asus Transformer TF700] youngnex:
its definitely a 7 inch... screw that

edit: actually i think its the primev2 bro.... it is 10 inch.... ive read it everywhere!
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
Actually it does. Article already stated the dual core 1.5ghz processor is slower/less powerful than Tegra3. plus there are already similar specs dual cores out in the market today and they are slower. All the benchmarks show Transformer Prime with Tegra3 well above the competition in benchmarks. If the dualcore was faster or so much better it would've shown in the benchmarks, which it hasn't.

At least we can agree that the dual core paired with the Qualcom Butt performing Andreno GPU is a fail. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] nxp3:
I think asus might have the story pulled because they don't want to confuse people or enraged people about new products coming out after the prime gps fiasco. I bet they would really like people to know about their new stuff except that's not going to go well by the way they treated the prime customers. They figure they'll announce it again right before release, hoping that by then people will forget about the prime.

This thing is worse than nintendo lowering the price of the 3ds right after release. At least they offer compensation in one form or another.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
$599 is ridiculously high for an Android tablet and that end of the market represents 15% of Android tablet sales. So you can assume the Acer and even the 11.6" Samsung won't be higher than that. Asus would be insane to make people choose between a dual-core HD tab at $599 and a quad-core tab at 1280x800 tab at $499 when the new Acer will likely offer both at the same price as the TF700.

It's way too early to call this one and you guys using words like "definitely" are getting ahead of yourselves.
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
I'm betting on this. I'd Asus thought they had a problem and pressure involving bootloader then just imagine the angry original prime owners. This will be Asus best option. Glad the Prime has a 1 year warranty from Asus. it also could be once this released, if we send it in based ln saying GPS/BT/wifi issues, it'll be cheaper for them to just send us this new revised unit.

That's how Sprint started doing with original Evo. My brother in law sent Evo in to get fixed and instead of fixing it, they just went ahead and sent him the updated Evo3D at now additional cost. Probably since they don't make OG evo anymore or was just cheaper to send him the more powerful and 3D display of Evo3D. Could be the same case we run into. cheaper to just exchange the tablet for new version vs. waste man hours trying to fix and improve something on OG Prime. Watch what I tell ya.
[Asus Transformer TF700] kunddizzle:
People are mixing things up!

There will be 2 new Tablets fra Asus

- Updated Transformer Prime w/ high res, new backplate for bette signals, better front camera

- 7" Tablet, with DUAL CORE cpu.

the updated Prime will NOT get the dual core cpu.

But nothings for sure atm.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shinzz:
We have yet to find out how dual-core 1.5ghz processor (28nm Krait SoC) will compare with Tegra 3 yet. But even with that.... to be paired up with Adreno GPU (like all other qualcomm chips) at 1080p display... yea.. I would have had serious doubts.

Now, TF700.... everything is exactly the same except 1080p display and 2 megapixel front facing camera. I for one.. can't justify Asus hiking $100 dollar for a tablet that'll be released in Q2 possibly (and maybe later). If it was paired up with extra gig of RAM and slightly higher CPU on Tegra 3...

Re-purchasing Prime (hopefully without wifi/bluetooth issue) with BT GPS receiver is starting to sound good to me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] L3rry:
I wouldn't call Adreno performance 2.5x greater than the Tegra 3 to be a fail.

GPU GFLOPS @ 300MHz:

Tegra 3 Kal-El: 7.2 GFLOPS

Qualcomm 8960 Adreno 225: 19.2 GFLOPS

PowerVR SGX543MP2: 19.2 GFLOPS

I also think that the newer Cortex A15 architecture used in the Qualcomm 8960 is much better than the last gen A9 architecture used in the Tegra 3.

I am looking forward to seeing a tablet comparison when the Lenovo Ideapad S2 comes out.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
Let's assume Asus sells 200K Prime's before the TF700 is released. Let's also assume the TF200 costs $300 to build. The replacement program you're suggesting would cost them $60MM on something they'll probably make $15MM on ($75 x 200K) leaving them with a cash loss of $45MM. Can you really see that happening?

With the exception of early purchasers who thought they were getting GPS, anyone buying the Prime's getting exactly what they paid for. What you're suggesting is that Asus eat $60MM by offering insurance against the Prime being upstaged by a newer device.

You can't defend the Prime as it exists today and then turn around and say it's no good just because Asus releases a newer device.
[Asus Transformer TF700] seven2099:
yeah and you know what? although I dont own a xoom anymore it was one of my favorite tablets. I also have a 10.1 from samsung and that thing obliterated the xoom so I got rid of it. However it never had any of the issues the Transformer Prime has and Motorola didn't just release a newer xoom to make up for it.

Most of the issues the Xoom had were Google's fault but it was a solid device none the less. Either way I laugh at you for your misfortunes due to Asus' brilliant idea.
[Asus Transformer TF700] jyan_osu:
From http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ra-and-gps-fix-also-introduces-7-memo-me370t/

The TF700T, as mentioned already, is practically the same as the TF201, but here are the specs anyway:

10.1” (1920x1200) Super IPS+ panel, with a 178 degree viewing angle

1.3 GHz Quad core Cortex A9 NVIDIA Tegra 3 processor (with 12 core GeForce GPU)

8MP rear camera with autofocus, LED Flash, and 1080P recording and 2MP front facing camera with HD video chat

32GB/64GB internal memory, plus 8GB of ASUS Web Storage

WLAN 802.11 b/g/n and Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR technology

2-in-1 3.5mm jack, micro-HDMI output, and microSD card reader

25WHr lithium-polymer battery (should have the same battery life as the TF201)

263 x 180.8 x 8.3mm and 586g
[Asus Transformer TF700] demandarin:
Yeah, the people crying about GPS is ridiculous now. Mods should just move any of those threads/comments into one unified GPS Dead Horse thread. I'm sure they will take action soon enough. Nothing wrong with wanting fully what you paid for including fully functional GPS. But when the issue has been addressed in several threads and Asus offered a possible solution, still awaiting U.S. confirmation, then what's the point of constantly nagging about it to XDA. Instead call Asus and snag to them about it and maybe actions will be taken faster. Some people need to learn Patience is a Virtue. I bet they sit around all pissed off about GPS and about to have a heart attack over it and raise blood pressure for nothing. Instead of being optimistic and giving the company ample time to address and solve the issue internationally. Sheesh...lmfao
[Asus Transformer TF700] mutiny:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ra-and-gps-fix-also-introduces-7-memo-me370t/

So basically Asus released a better version of the current Transformer Prime (TF201) but the price tag will have $100 more for both 32/64GB models. The difference is a higher resolution (as the thread topic states), a 2MP front camera (over 1.3MP), a plastic back to improve BT, WiFi, and GPS.

It will be coming in Q2 of this year and will most likely face the same pre-order disaster if the first two Transformers are an indication.

I, for one, am very glad I'm getting the "inferior" 64GB gray Transformer Prime (TF201). The main reason being the price tag. It is still the BEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK tablet. Hands down. Let's face it, but the .7MP upgrade for the front camera won't really matter in a video chat even with "HD". I have a Logitech 9xx web cam here in the office and it touts 1080p/HD, whatever. Let me tell you all right now it's a gimmick. It still looks ****ty and not HD or 1080p in the same sense as TVs. The only thing worth in the new Prime is the higher resolution and the improved wireless signals. I don't use GPS at all and won't be ponying up $100 more for higher resolution and GPS. That's for those who really need it. At $699 for the 64GB, that's still a fair price but that's kind of the norm with a storage like that. The $599 for the TF201 was what lured me and will keep me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
It'll never be a dead issue. People who decide to shop for a tablet today will still assume that a newly released $499 premium device will have GPS. Even more so because the TF1 did. So unless they're looking for the absence of GPS on Asus' website they'll probably buy the Prime just assuming it has it. When they turn their shiny new toy on for the first time and it doesn't get a lock, they'll come here to seek guidance from helpful XDA'rs by posting "My GPS Won't Lock" (assuming there's no GPS posts still on the front page).

The *****ing should definately not be allowed because it-is-what-it-is but the GPS issue itself will always haunt the Prime.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Wordlywisewiz:
I wonder how long asus will give us a refund for.... Because with some of these cool ultrabook I'm seeing in intels livestream

When will other quad core chips be out?
[Asus Transformer TF700] BarryH_GEG:
It may also have better audio just because a plastic back probably gives Asus more options to deal with speaker placement. Since they're under the hood anyway it makes sense to upgrade what they can to justify the additional $100. Just a guess.