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[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
@Tytung -- Available memory

Hi Tytung -- here's the rundown of the HD2's available memory:

T-Mobile HD2: 576MB RAM, 1GB ROM

HTC HD2: 448MB RAM, 512MB ROM

Here's what the ROM's About page looks like:

Since I have the T-Mobile version, with 1GB ROM storage memory, how can I make use of that extra storage, and not waste it?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] marc1706:
"Memory" actually refers to the RAM. Both the EU HD2 and the TMOUS HD2 have 576 MB of RAM.

403 MB is the amount of RAM that is available to apps. The rest is used up by the GPU, DSP, etc.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] daedric:
GPU alone takes 128mb... correct me if i'm wrong...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] whiteyaksa:
DSP is running in un-hidden RAM...

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You can open 500+ RAM by flashing RADIO.2.10.50.26, but I haven't try it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] daedric:
Corrected it just in time... ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
Let me clarify a bit...

The above screenshot is what started me looking at the various editions of the HD2. That was certainly not clear in my initial post.

I was actually talking about ROM storage memory, as noted immediately following the screenshot.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] daedric:
Yet on that screenshot, that's RAM.

To see your space, go into "installed apps"
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hd2brick:
Is there anyway to use soft keys on the latest version?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] thamlim:
Probably this is what u've been looking for.;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
Read this exchange again.

Thanks, but there is no need. I know precisely what I have on my 64G card and how it is apportioned.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] devilpera64:
News regarding next version build of this fantastic ROM? :-)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hengsheng120:
Partition over 900mb system memory. And push apps into system app
[HD2 Android NAND Development] rodosman:
help.

i instal phonelocate pro (crack), and know i cant unlock my phone.

it is ask for password.

please helppppppp
[HD2 Android NAND Development] nueloc:
can't figure this out. Installed like always with full wipe , run it for a week OK

and now every 2 calls phone.apk is not responding. some times ask for reboot, dialer stuck after unlock, changed to go dialer . is there a fix for this ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tmotard:
hi,

did you try to wipe caches ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] snarf1974:
could try locating the program on your sd card and deleting it ... you might get some strange message when you reboot .. otherwise you will have to try reloading the rom after clearing the cache...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] marvin1994:
Are there no fixes for the problems like touch in games or soundbug?:(

And what's with Youtube?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] nueloc:
i made a fresh install wiped all. cache davlink boot data

you suggest to wipe cache again from recovery ? i use link 2 SD and i can wipe with it
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tmotard:
I understood from your post that you install the rom and used your phone for 1 week before the problem then yes i suggest you to wipe cache (app + dalvik) in recovery
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Sequester:
I ran this ROM and it was by far the best I ever had on my HD2!

Unfortunately, yesterday I used it quite a lot, audio books from audible, about an hour of phone calls and internet surfing. Ín the evening I wanted to check Facebook and the phone didnt't react at all, it is completely dead. Even the light when charging does not turn on any more. (although there should be some battery left anyway). I tried another battery but again, the same. I did not change anything, no other kernel or whatsover. The onlyy thing I did was an EXT3 partition on my SD card and installed link2SD.

I would assume this is not ROM related but if - by chance - anybody has got any idea any input would be appreciated. Otherwise the great days of my beloved HD2 are over now.

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[HD2 Android NAND Development] max414:
sorrry for my noobish question it must have been there some where but i couldn't find it

My screen doesn't light up when i receive a text message ???:p
[HD2 Android NAND Development] timekeeper:
That's an option in third-party SMS clients as far as I know, like GoSMS.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] nueloc:
Wiped, seams to be ok 10 X :cool:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] delta-roh:
deleted!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] adell_:
Could you please show the screenshot of your internal storage?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] cool400:
Unfortunately this didn't help :(

I've still got massive problems with my internet-connection! It disappears most of the time and it needs more than luck to catch a single byte over my 3G with O2.

Any other ideas?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] romskii:
Repartition

Can someone pls help me with the repartition? :D

on HD2 NAND Toolkit is no Option for 165 MB, and now manually imput there.

I tried to edit manually a confi file but that doesn't worked for me, only bugs and reboots on this ROM. Long time ago we flashed without a NAND Tookit ROMs :D

can anyone help?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] marcopolo:
It was late, I had already changed all these values. I am anyways going to flash this ROM from the beginning.

You can see those effects in my signature :-(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] adell_:
If 165 MB doesn't work, the chance is your HD2 has some bad NAND blocks. Try a larger partition.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] XeX_DuBwoofer_x:
any info on the new kernel? i downloaded it but A not sure how to install it and also whats been changed from the HTCLEO-Kernel_2.6.32-ics_tytung_HWA_r2.3-uniMAC there is many of the new roms with it already but tytung has not yet updated his so is there any point installing it? thanks in advance
[HD2 Android NAND Development] illgodson:
I'm sorry I'm not sure if I understand right...when you partition with Tool Kit its not working or you can't figure out how to custom partition size on Tool Kit? If the problem is the latter just click custom at the bottom of the list, then actually click partition, only then will it ask you for your desired custom size. I use this method on every flash and never had a problems so if your already doing this and I misunderstood your problem, then yes perhaps you have bad blocks and 165 too small.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] walts:
+1

I have nine areas of bad blocks on my HD2, and I was plagued with spontaneous reboots for a long time. I made my /system/ partition 220MB (I was trying a different ROM that required it) and since then I have had no problems with spontaneous reboots. I suppose something smaller would work, but I don't feel like experimenting right now, but it certainly appears that having additional space in /system/ allows the OS to isolate the bad blocks properly.

HTH

Walt
[HD2 Android NAND Development] XeX_DuBwoofer_x:
nevermind just installed it over top of the old kernel :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] max414:
doesnt even ligthen up wen i get a whatsapp msg:confused:

i neava installed go sms :p
[HD2 Android NAND Development] adell_:
I believe you can flash it. Version 2.4 supports USB tethering.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zoUphd2:
A litle help .. ( i just remember my first times with the HD2 Tool :D )
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mikeeed:
I got mms working on daughter's HD2

I didn't see a fix after a search. This is on t-mobile US network, still on v2.0. I deleted simple and mms APNs, renamed T-Mobile US to just T-Mobile, and the following:

APN: epc.t-mobile.com

proxy: not set

port: not set

username : not set

password : not set

server : not set

MMSC:http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc

MMS proxy: not set

MMS port: not set

MCC:310

MNC:260

Authentication type:not set

APN type:not set

APN protocol:IPv4/IPv6

APN enable/disable: APN enabled

Bearer: unspecified

Saved and rebooted for good measure, tried 3 different pics and all went to my phone. Hopefully this will help someone else.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] romskii:
What System size you refer? I got it working with 165 but Camera has everytime a FC. Other Apps like Pudding Camera are working very fine. Any idea? Don't think that it is a bad flash because all other things are great
[HD2 Android NAND Development] zoUphd2:
Try to reflash the rom then .. camera is working fine here.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] illgodson:
I use 165 also, but I don't have any camera issues though.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] romskii:
no chance..just reflashed ROM. Maybe have to try 200 system partition?

Edit: I wasn't able to choose 2M cache in Toolkit. Only 5M.

Can this be the reason?

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[HD2 Android NAND Development] MTN_HD2:
you cant choose 2M in the toolkit . the only way is to use flash.cfg but it really doesn't matter since this partition is only used by cwm

yes i'd suggest using a bigger partition

weird that mine doesn't have bad nand blocks, i bought it 3 years ago. i've flashed a lot of roms too
[HD2 Android NAND Development] romskii:
Me too. I went to Sensation. My uncle got my HD2. So I tried 200 and manually with flash.cfg but no win...

With 200 the android.phone got FC

With 165 Music and Camera FC

With 165 and 2 cache Music, Camera and SMS FC and after 3 reboot also android.phone

Now I flashed typhoons CM7.2 nightly with 150 and everything is working great. Strange
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MTN_HD2:
actually getting reboots and FCs with the suggested partition size mostly means you have bad nand blocks. try 220. don't really know what you can do after that
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Commander Bubble:
this is mentioned in the wiki on the 1st post ^^

although it only works if your provider will work with only one APN, i spent a good 6 hours with mine and couldn't get them to work merged.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] romskii:
i'm bored! I tried 220 and 250 and even Trebuchet FC and still Camera. What's wrong here.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] NYLimited:
Just to follow-up on that old post for the benefit of all who love to recommend TASK29..

I upgraded from Typhoon Gingerbread by wiping only the Dalvik cache -

no factory reset, no format, no task29

. All my apps and data remained fully functional. After a few minutes of "optimizing apps" the device began receiving email as usual and it was working as well as before.

The only issue seems to be the lockscreen setup missing which several people reported. For those about to recommend task29 I did try a full factory reset just to see if it made a difference and it did not. :)

So much for the myths....
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
I do not know if that will work, but you are the first to answer the question as asked. ;)

Since we are on a run, for me to do as you suggest, I would have to add to Tytung's ROM apps sufficient in size to fill the ROM storage space. It would simply be an alternative place for me to store apps, since I would still be limited by the amount of RAM (Random Access Memory) available to me. It is RAM where current processes that are running are stored and keep the data they need immediately available to them.

Since I have plenty of storage space, I do not immediately see any advantage to using the remaining ROM that way. Any other suggestions?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hengsheng120:
what does ram have to do with putting apps into internal memory? regular apps don't use memory unless you execute them.

to add apps into system all you have to do is simply copy paste the apk into the system/app folder with android commander or root explorer on your phone. You dont need to touch the rom files. This is the simplest way i know to fully use internal and a2sd at the same time.

I assumed that you were using a2sd, so the other way would be to turn a2sd off and use the internal memory normally and move apps to sd via the application info menu as needed. you can also use link2sd which moves apps that you choose onto the ext partition. But neither of those ways are very efficient.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] NYLimited:
The more space you allocate to /system the less memory you have to run apps in.

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Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.. (via XDA app)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hengsheng120:
wat? why does that matter when you have a2sd?

and /system isnt stored in ram unless you are using superram
[HD2 Android NAND Development] NYLimited:
Never mind. I think you are missing the basics on how device memory works. :banghead:

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Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.. (via XDA app)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hengsheng120:
Are you sure you about that? the original post i replied to talked about the how the size of system partition is affecting how much ram is used up. what are you trying to say？
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
I am not sure as to what end, but sure... this is how my 64G microSD

X

C is currently divided:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tevonne:
Can anyone tell me if Netflix app works on this rom
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
Let us begin with the fact that I complimented you on your reading comprehension by acknowledging my question, by directly addressing it. ;)

You suggested using that space to store apps.

I then proceeded to further explain how using it for storage added no benefit

to me

, and stated why (RAM limitations). Note that I already have about 6½G of internal storage, and more as needed...

I was actually hoping to get your juices flowing and come up with something more creative and less obvious.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hengsheng120:
Then can you also educate me on why having apps in system partition/ having a large sys partition uses up more ram? I'm just trying to understand everything that you said here.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
Words are tricky little things.

I use a word or sentence and its meaning comes from all that I have experienced making up me.

You read that word or sentence, which I carefully chose, and interpret that word or sentence based upon your experiences.

No matter how hard we try, words are limited, so communication is never 100%.

Do you know how to communicate in thought-shapes?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] winner1:
how do i install the softkeys or how do i activate softkeys?!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] abdealiv:
I am sorry to intervene here but the cause of confusion is ur way of putting basic question in complex way ..ur basic question is "Can we have more RAM using Free internal Space(ROM)" ? like Windows page file system

but there are 2 major problem with that ..

1) Untill now no developer on any device able to use internal storage as RAM so far ..so that is just not possible as of now AFAIK ..if u hv come across any Android ROM like that which is using internal space as RAM please let us know ..

2) Even if its possible this would benefit only TMOUS HD2's mostly coz they have 1Gb internal storage but EU & International models hv only 512mb ...& many ppl's are suffering from bad NAND blocks here, so there would be no space left for them for /System Partition at all.

infact to run Android on our HD2's we are using some of the RAM space for android drivers & stuff ..so even having 576 mb of total RAM we can use only 404mb~ of RAM but luckily for us its enough for ICS ..we hardly run out of memory in most cases...anyhow even after considering all If there is any tiniest of possibility of doing this method then i guess our brilliant developers of HD2 would hv figured out by now ..but sorry for u ..not possible as of now..

Offtopic-->about communication thing ..the basic rule of communication is to make other understand your point..onus is on you to make them understand what u trying to say..if u speak for an hour & nobody understands a thing then its ur failure not theirs..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] The BLION Corp.:
Hello,

First, Mark, we are on an international forum. You can even choose the best word, you will never be sure to be understood as you thought, just because English is not our native language most of the time.

If you want more RAM :

- Did you enable ZRam support ?

- Did you enable KSM support ?

With Mounts2SD, you can enable swap partition. I don't know if it will work fine with this ROM. Perhaps you could give it a try (be careful, you will have to format your SD Card)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] techsc:
a2sd question

Hello,

yes, a2sd is not directly related to this thread. Anyhow, would someone shed some light in my following question?

I have set up tytung V2.0 and installed 40ad2sdx-a2Recovery in combination with a 4GB partition. All seems to be working, but Titanium Backup shows me the following overview:

System ROM: 209 MB (36.9 MB free)

Internal: 4.03 GB (3.61 GB free)

SD card: 27.2 GB (13.0 GB free)

SD card (a2sd): 214 MB (35.9 MB free)

I can see that the 4GB partition is correctly linked to the internal storage. Fine. But what the heck is the "SD card (a2sd)" partition?

Some days ago I have run into low memory problems related to that partition (only 3 MB left). Google Play Store was unable to download the update of Star Chart (13.86 MB) download.

Fortunately, I was able to clear the Google Internet Browser's cache and cleared some memory on that partition (35.9 MB free). Now, I *was* able to re-install Start Chart with the result, that this app is placed on that magic partion either (resulting in 20.7 MB free). The ICS-Settings Application manager tells me that Star Chart is available to be moved to SD Card.

I cannot understand what happens here at all. I expected that Star Chart is placed on the linked internal Storage 4GB partition or either the real external SD-ext partition 27.2 GB. It seems that Star Chart "thinks" the magic (to me) partition "SD card (a2sd)" is the internal phone storage.

Hopefully, anyone can tell me how to clear this issue.

Chris
[HD2 Android NAND Development] adell_:
Hi Mark,

I just get it that you want to use the internal storage as RAM. If it is ever possible, I don't think it's a good idea because accessing ROM is slower than RAM. You might get a bigger space but it would adversely impact the performance.

Using RAM as a disk is a nice idea because it's fast but not the other way around.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sujahat:
I am using this ROM, its amazing.. love it..

However I have bumped in to a small problem..

Im using Viva service in Bahrain and the provider gave a number to call for settings up caller tones thats 122 http://www.viva.com.bh/content/viva-ring-back-tone

But the calls ends up going to the police.... I tried the sim in another phone and it works fine.. got the sim replaced as well.. please let me know if this can be fixed.. as there is not alternate number to call except 122 for using their service.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] The BLION Corp.:
techsc : your question should be posted in the dedicated A2SD thread (you can find the reference in the first post). It's a well-known behaviour
[HD2 Android NAND Development] techsc:
Thank you, I will place it there.

Chris
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tostis:
+1

solved apn issue tapping on restore defaults.

superuser does not work :(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mido.fayad:
simply ur problem is that dalvik cache is being stored in ur internal memory which is 214 mb so u should also move dalvik cache to sd-ext partition to have fully working data2sd
[HD2 Android NAND Development] LordDeath:
I just noticed that ICS needs much more RAM than Gingerbread. :(

Is there a way to get ZRAM working with this build?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MTN_HD2:
its already working . take a look in the settings

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the link you posted says there are 2 other ways(Through our website,SMS). it might be a general ICS problem in bahrain
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
Consider returning to the post to which you are referring (it was not mine). I never said anything along those lines.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hengsheng120:
You related "place for me to store apps" to the "amount of RAM" with the word "since". This implied to me that you think the method of storing apps into system memory will affect the amount of RAM that you have since you say the reason is because of "(RAM limitations)".
[HD2 Android NAND Development] LordDeath:
It is in the settings but it has no effect. Just open a terminal and look at the output of the "free" command.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Nigeldg:
Just saying, can you both go back on topic? I'd prefer to see more development-related things than arguments (or rather disagreements, I'd hardly call that an argument). Continue over PM if you wish
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
Hi kengkaj.s -- I never suggested that the unused ROM storage space be used for anything.

My OP: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=26682262&postcount=6593

I did ask if anyone had an idea as to how to make better use of the unused ROM storage area.

Apparently, the image I included confused everyone and became the focal point of my post, even though my actual question was right beneath the image.

The image was inserted and commented, so that I could share what triggered me into looking at T-Mobile's HTC HD2 specifications in the first place. I saw that 403MB and off I went. :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] adell_:
I believe the best use of ROM is to install apps to it. The performance would be better than installing apps to the SD card. If you use Link2SD, you can install apps to internal storage until it has small space left then you can enable auto-link.

Another thing that I can think of so far is to do dual-boot like installing WPH and Android to NAND. I don't know if it's possible but in theory it should.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] hengsheng120:
Just trying to be helpful as to clarify what he is trying to say. As it seems people are confused by it.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MTN_HD2:
i haven't tested it myself because i usually have 230+ mb free.

read this and the next post
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mrbox23:
GPS?

What can I do to get GPS working? I have googled high and low and zipped libs around but im at a loss so far..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Cherokee007:
My volume spekaer is too low with this rom. Please post fix for this problem thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] marvin1994:
GPS is working fine at me:confused:

But Youtube isn't working, is there a fix?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MTN_HD2:
fix permissions , if it didn't work search the thread . its already been asked

reinstall youtube app. it has been asked before, search before posting
[HD2 Android NAND Development] marvin1994:
Isn't working:(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] tmotard:
Wipe cache + dalvik + fix permission
[HD2 Android NAND Development] LordDeath:
Have you guys tried all these alternative ICS launchers yet? Which one is the fastest?

Trebuchet, Nova, Apex or something else?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] marvin1994:
Isn't working too just as Market downloads:confused:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] MarkAtHome:
Well, you asked for and received an image of how I have my SD card divided. I have about 6½G set aside as internal storage, gotten from Alex-V's mod of Amarullz original script. It has worked like a champ since last October and since I have plenty of space on my SD card, there is no reason to consider Link2SD.

Dual-booting Android and WP7 via NAND would be of interest -- that would certainly make good use of the extra ROM space. I don't know if it is possible either.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] anserinae:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26693277

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try turning the volume up during a call aswell if fixing the permissions dont work
[HD2 Android NAND Development] pathologo:
Zeam Launcher is still the best. Period.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] LordDeath:
I will consider it. From my previous CM7 ROM I still had a GoLauncher in my TitaniumBackup and it also seems to be faster than the ICS-based launchers.