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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Entropy512:
Show the evidence that the AT&T Note is guaranteed ICS.

AT&T's promises don't mean jack **** - look at their promise to upgrade the Infuse to Gingerbread by the end of 2011. We all know how THAT is going.

Anything Samsung says about the international Note means NOTHING in regards to the AT&T Note - NOTHING whatsoever.

If you want to get a Note, avoid the AT&T version like the plague unless you want even less development efforts than the Infuse (you won't even have Hellraiser) and being 100% AT&T's ***** when it comes to upgrades.

The AT&T version has only two things in common with the international version - the name, and the screen size. EVERYTHING else about it is completely different.

The AT&T Note is going to be a piece of crap - no development, poor battery life due to LTE, and it's going to be significantly slower than the international version. When the ****rocket and T989 came out, it was quickly apparent that a 1.2 GHz Exynos could match or beat a 1.5 GHz Snapdragon - the international Note has a 1.4 GHz Exynos, it will utterly smoke a 1.5 GHz Snapdragon.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
Another set of reasons I won't touch the Note. Either switching carriers and getting the Droid Razr

or staying and waiting out the SGSIII. There's also that new LTE line of phones due this year for Sprint since they're finally ditching Wi-Max. Who knows, something good may pop up.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] The Jack of Clubs:
its ok, you just get a friend to hold it for you.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
Well played, haha.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
Funny all the dissing complaints about this device yet there's already a forum for it and looks like plenty of development too!!!

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
Which is what Entropy was saying. There's a good deal for the international version, but At&t's is going to probably be slow on development. It looks like a nice phone, but I feel like the At&t version's going to another Infuse. A great phone, but a little lacking in development.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] SGarnett:
Even Supercurio bought one... :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
Due to AT&TS BS everyone is feeling shady on every new phone that comes out. Don't know why they would put them down before even seeing. Then when/if it blows up(goes big) they all of a sudden praise the thing. Hypocrites man...

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyFTL:
I see. So the smart thing to do is order the international version for full price? All because of the slightly slower processor and the assumption of poor development?

I'm sorry, but this thing is currently $750. AT&T will probably sell it as an upgrade for anywhere from $300-$400. As nice as having the faster one would be, I don't see that as a cost effective option. It must be nice to have your expendable incomes.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
I'm looking forward to it. I've looked at it since it was first introduced at a show on reviews ect

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyFTL:
Heheh. ****rocket. I stuck a bottle rocket in a turd in the hopes of creating a ****rocket but it didn't go anywhere...then it blew poop all over the side of the garage.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
Who said anything about spending full price on an International version? I plainly stated I have no interest in the Note period. Plus I don't see anyone here talking about having an expendable income.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jmatt78:
I'm personally waiting on the sgs3
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyMike01:
That's a much wiser course of action.

Sent from my SGH-I897
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
Hey, me too!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] KingVekxin:
So when is this s3 comming out anyway
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] rxnelson:
What the latest on that? International in February? Still a chance they would throw a snapdragon on it for LTE?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyFTL:
Umm...wasn't replying to you. Chill.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
Don't be an ass. I know it's your best quality, but you can turn it off sometimes.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Entropy512:
No, the smart thing to do is to simply wait and not blow your upgrade on a piece of crap that will just cause you to get frustrated and get a full-price out-of-cycle upgrade.

The SGS2 is the first time since graduate school I've purchased an out-of-cycle upgrade, because the Infuse frustrated me as a developer. I will not be purchasing a replacement for it until my next contract upgrade eligibility at this point, and unlike the Infuse, I'm going to be MUCH more careful about what device I use the next upgrade on.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Entropy512:
No, there isn't a forum for it and there is no development for it.

If you're referring to the forum for the international version - reread the complaints, you'll see that the issue is that the AT&T version is going to have NOTHING in common with that international version - so will get zero benefit from the existence of the international version's forum and development.

The international Note is an awesome device - the AT&T version is horrifically mangled, in classic AT&T fashion.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mejori:
all i know is that i will not buy another phone unless it has ics pre-installed!! i can only use ATT because its the only reliable service for the places i "travel" to. I dont care if they give me a guarantee in writing.. i aint buyin':mad:!!! i have 3 upgrades available but i will wait!!! :cool: cant afford to pays 6-800 so ill wait!! :p

ps: ATT F#$% You!!:mad: :D

its a love hate relationship!!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyMike01:
Right.

Except for the love part.

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
Edit: Ide rather use this space to explain how it was very innappropriate for people to hijack the thread to bash the device and start talking about another device that is not even being spoken of as far as I know. Latest and greatest devices will come out every 6 months. If you want to talk about them then you guys need to start your own thread. Gtfo of my thread. No offense of course. Thanks.

~~Vince.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
Ok, really? How old are we... No one said you were a dumbass or anything. No one said your opinion was dumb. We have opinions just as you do. And you opened a thread. People can say anything they want in the thread. To act like this is utterly ridiculous....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
i know your a respected developer and all but next time please try to refrain from bashing a device that you havent even used yet, especially on a thread that isnt your own. There are plenty of people who really dont care about half the things you wrote in that post. That said, Im not knocking the reasons for your dislike of the device, Im just letting you know that most people who really want it arent going to be as nitpicky as you are. People will develop whether you like it or not, thats enough for me. Seeing how unique this device will be, its only common sense that it will get an ICS upgrade. If not through official channels, then definitly through the development here on the forums.

On the cost side of things, I dont have 6-700 bucks to spend on a new device every 8-10 months. I dont even have 4-5oo bucks! So getting this device through ATT will be my ONLY option when it comes to the U.S. Please dont hate me for that just because you dislike ATT. Ive been a customer of theres for almost 10 years now, and have actually never had a problem with my phone service. So again, you can keep ur rants to urself on that if all your going to do is bash the company.

Samsung Ice Cream Sandwich Release Schedule Press Release

Of course this press release most likely refers to the International version. However I find it would be stupid if the ATT version didnt come preloaded with ICS when it comes out. It makes complete sense to me given their individual time-frames.

P.S. On a side Note (lol), I have overclocked my Infuse plenty, as well as underclocked. When you speak of a device as being better overall because of .2 ghz you make yourself sound like a complete (removed). Just sayin.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
"Don't be an ass. I know it's your best quality, but you can turn it off sometimes."

When you started calling names on my thread and responding in a hostil manner to others you basically threw your name into the flamewar hat. I dont appreciate it, and it isnt constructive. Your a respected member, you should know by now that its not cool to behave this way. Not everyone is as educated on the subject as you are. Being a little more descriptive and thorough in your posts may save you from coming off as a douche to some people next time.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
The reason I called him an ass is due to the fact that his usual comments are indeed very rude and unnecessary. I got tired of seeing his constant rude remarks. My apologies if it offended you in any way. I truly do. But like I said, I said that based on his usual remarks.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyFTL:
Eat my ass. I have a right to my opinion without hearing your lip. Hows that for rude.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
Cool story, bro.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyFTL:
Thanks, dude. Word.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
Haha, I'm sorry man. To be honest it was a **** move of me. No reason for me to say things like that and start crap.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
there. band-aid affixed. now lets move on.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] albee320:
a similar discussion:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1438904
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyMike01:
And this is why the Infuse forum is such a joy to post in.

Sent from my SGH-I897
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] KingVekxin:
So has everyone grown up yet? Lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] BoOsT:
Your in the infuse forum. No.growing up isn't a possibility. Hahahaha
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] KingVekxin:
Correct lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Jep56:
I have already decided that if I get a Note it will not be an ATT version. Had my fill of their trash.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tupirujp:
So sprint is getting the note for what the news said ..... and yeah I will get their version att treat me like **** over a misunderstanding whit the 3 lines I have so I'm done whit att enough
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
if they can keep from getting bought up by Verizon this year I would be surprised. But youd get good service either way. never had probs with my att service in 10 years tho!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] The Jack of Clubs:
if att cant buy tmobile, why would verizon buy sprint?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
well i believe earlier this month their was some talk of sprint filing for bankruptcy later this year. Due to low subscriptions. I would imagine that would cause the sharks to start circling. Of course this is all heresay as of now tho.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
I doubt they'll get bought out. Especially with their new LTE lineup rolling out, and the fact that they now carry the iphone with unlimited data.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] nupe_1911:
Was interested in the Note but will pass because I just don't trust AT&T to release ICS for it in a reasonable fashion after the Infuse GB fiasco... I will just wait for AT&T to release a phone that actually has ICS out the box.

I will also pass on the international Note because I actually value LTE and want it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Ryanscool:
Just going to say it will get ics immediatly the note is a major device to them. The infuse was just something to tide people over until the gs2 came out in the U.S.... Im getting it the day it comes out hopefully (easier for school too lol).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
This. The Infuse really was just a gap filler. It had almost 0 press. It wasnt even a traditionally-announced flagship device. That said, the Note has recieved a huge reception at CES 2012 and was/is their flagship for this year in pushing not just Android phones/ but ICS shortly after as well. They need that in order to remain competitive in the short term, even if that means an updated ICS device rather than preinstalled at launch-device. On top of that this device shares so much in common with the Galaxy S2 that it would be surprising to me that they would go for an update on an older device and not a newer one with similar specs.

I dont think there is anything else in the pipeline coming from other manufacturers atm. At least not for the springtime anyhow. I value lte as much as the next guy, but if its limitations are going to mean snapdragon for all future devices- i dont mind one bit jumping on an early device like this one. I cant see handheld devices getting a higher resolution display or bigger size/better form factor than this anytime before august.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
Makes sense. If they do end up getting bought out, heres to hoping that unlimited data remains for those few people that actually have it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Ryanscool:
Just a pointer, its not their flagship device. Its one of theirs lol. And suprisingly, sammy manages to push updates faster then lg with really just one to handle lol.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] nupe_1911:
AT&T ran multiple tv ads for the Infuse, had Infuse all over their website and had Infuse ads all over the web. It is false and wrong to claim it had zero press or was just some phone released as an afterthought. In comparison, a phone that was released with little or no advertising and as an afterthought would be the LG Nitro LTE.

As for the Note being an AT&T flagship for the year, I seriously doubt that.

I would like to buy the Note but won't even consider it until it actually gets ICS and even then I question whether the Note will have adequate dev support in the longterm.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kevinr678:
This exactly. Stole the words right out of my mouth.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
point taken, although I dont think I saw much ads for it. I followed the device for about 3-4 months leading up to the release. There wasnt too much of a splash when it came out either. I guess what I mean to say is that people werent generally clamoring for it, nor did anyone I know seem to know that it existed. I guess in that regard, I felt like there wasnt enough press, or maybe it was at the wrong time of the year. granted this was supposed to lead up to summer when everyone was thinking of the iPhone 5. So i just got the impression that it was overlooked by so many. I youtubed it for days and found only hands-on videos from one event before release. And all the videos from that event showed the device for like a couple min only, and not even able to review the hardware on the back. I literally could not find a decent vid review of the device anywhere. which seemed odd to me.

So i look at all the press and hands-on time people are spending with the Note, and I say that this device is getting soooo much more press time than the Infuse ever did. Its such a bigger jump to go to this device with all its features than it was to jump to the infuse. In that sense it IS getting enough attention in my eyes, that it would warrant a similar priority on ICS as the Sgs2. Especially since Samsung has said that this device will be viable for enterprise usage according to its new S.A.F.E. standard.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] b3asty:
This is so sad. AT&T really should be ashamed but they're making too much money to ever care...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Ryanscool:
Its what att asked for, lte capable note. Sammy, not wanting to promote its lte exynos yet (it does exist, but currently only supports lte and regular 3g, not hpsa+) had to go qualcomm way hipefully development for it is high, and gets ics quickly, then it will in my opinion be the best device you can buy for a short amount of time.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] secretasianman:
I love the one where the guy smashes the phone with his shoe at the restaurant table because it showed a crawling tarantula on the screen!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Hwyl:
Damn, I told my girlfriend about this phone... Now she wants one.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
EDit: Its the International Version they are reviewing, sadly. ;(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MobileData:
I think it's crap that they are not announcing a release date. Why not just tell us when this thing will be available on AT&T? It passed through FCC testing with LTE radios (meaning it's definitely the AT&T version).

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...-spin-around-the-fcc-headed-for-att-20120120/

--Mike
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
Some people that went to CES said that its due at the end of February. Im thinking that may be true. If your really wanting a release date, I would say keep refreshing this page until there is an actual release date on it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] welchertc:
Anybody see that there's a white version coming to AT&T? I know what my next phone will be. I'm happy with the development for the infuse, and I'm sure the note will gain at least as much as we have, so come release time, I know what I'm upgrading to.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MobileData:
Some have said that the Tuesday February 14th date displayed on the Galaxy Note photos is going to be the release date. If that's the fact, then just tell us already!!! :)

--Mike
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
Agreed 100% !
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] The Jack of Clubs:
http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/25/atts-...-rugby-smart-and-att-fusion-launching-feb-18/

Rumor is 18th now
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dman3285:
I will be moving to the note upon release
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Jep56:
I'm thinking an unlocked non-ATT version
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
I agree D!! That thing looks Badass!!

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qkster:
Kinda looks like 2.2.1 running on that Note
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] The Jack of Clubs:
Its 2.3.6.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigfau:
I'm getting a GooApple V5.(Chuckle,chuckle):D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MobileData:
And I will be right there with you, bro.

--Mike

Sent from one of many Samsung devices.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] GGXtreme:
This. Definitely considering it as my next phone, but I'm not going to deal with a Qualcomm/LTE variation of any of their devices.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jayson94538:
That's huge! ;)

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] The Jack of Clubs:
That's what she said
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
Just put up the price and date on the main post!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
Would that be upgrade price or.....? I'd like to see it lower for upgrade cause mine come up in March :-D

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CheesyNutz:
299.99 .... FAIL ! i wont be upgrading to this ...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
That is the upgrade/on contract price. Keep in mind that this device will fill a special niche in the marketplace, and with specs like these, i would say that the cost is worth the S-Pen technology alone. My Wacom tablet for my computer costs nearly 200$. So having such technology on a handheld device is like having a mini-Cintiq tablet in my pocket. Of course not all people are interested in that. So to each his own.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
I may way acouple months after release to see if price will go down like most devices

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] The Jack of Clubs:
id put a large bet on it dropping atleast $100 by the first 2 months. almost all phones do. within a year itll prolly be $49 on contract. its sorta the advantage/disadvantage the market flood on android phones has.

the verizon galaxy nexus is already down to $99.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
True, that's why I said hopefully I can't resist a couple months for it to drop

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] The Jack of Clubs:
yeah and i think itll take another month or so to go on refurb (if youre into that...).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
Didn't matter as long as it works like it should haha

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tazbo28:
Waiting that couple of months might actually allow you to see if they'll throw ICS on it too!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
If ur moving to this than that just made my decision final. I need 5+ inches again. Ex streaker here.

On another note can anyone confirm that att main line holder gets upgrade every year?

Sent from my INFUSE powered by ZEUS
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] The Jack of Clubs:
i believe its still every 18 months. no clue if they switched back to 12 months. you can normally get them to waive it as an early upgrade if you are a month or two away.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
And that's for main line right? Add a lines are 2 years ...

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mcala:
Main primary number is 12 months. Additional lines are 18.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
Thanks man. That means Samsung note here I come in June :) and by then there should be good dev and a cheaper price :) double win

Sent from my INFUSE powered by ZEUS
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MobileData:
OP Please update original post. Boy Genius was incorrect. The confirmed release date from AT&T and Samsung is February 19th not the 18th.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...g-galaxy-note-launches-feb-19-on-att-for-299/

--Mike
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyMike01:
$300 for a contract subsidized phone is a joke.

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
Kinda seems like it... hopefully by June ish it will be down to 199 for sure or even 99?

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CheesyNutz:
It's one day who cares

E3D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
Damn MikeyMike is such a Hater! Must have depression problems, bipolar or just a hate for the world other than his own

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] djbrian52:
I second that! How's MikeyMike been?

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MikeyMike01:
Fine. I have a cold though. :(

Are you suggesting that $300 is an acceptable price for a subsidized cell phone, or are you just projecting your problems on others?

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bignate78:
Are you suggesting that $300 is an acceptable price for a subsidized cell phone, or are you just projecting your problems on others?

Sent from my SGH-I897[/QUOTE]

Almost every new phone that has came out have been $299. Am I looking to pay that? No. That's why I said I'd wait to see if it drops like everything else does.

Lately you've just had negitive comments towards everything. Its like, you have a bad day so should everyone else, type of attitude. I don't know what device your stuck on but you don't need to go into other threads and down those. Some people enjoy those devices and are looking forward to coming new ones

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Ryanscool:
Almost every new phone that has came out have been $299. Am I looking to pay that? No. That's why I said I'd wait to see if it drops like everything else does.

Lately you've just had negitive comments towards everything. Its like, you have a bad day so should everyone else, type of attitude. I don't know what device your stuck on but you don't need to go into other threads and down those. Some people enjoy those devices and are looking forward to coming new ones

Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS![/QUOTE]

His comments arent usually negative, yes ive seen them but rarely. They just pount out the obvious ( like me sometimes lol). 300 bucks does suck, but heck most people dont care, well at least im getting one right after it comes out for school instead of a full pledged tablet.