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[Motorola Droid 3] bogdan_wrc:
How can I install two ROMS (MavROM and ICS) on my D3? one in SAFE MODE and one without.

what programs to use?

I already have MAVROM installed with SAFESTRAP from hashcode, but if i disable it, i get the stock rom.

thank you.
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
You have to use a bootstrap to flash your nonsafe before you install safestrap
[Motorola Droid 3] bogdan_wrc:
can you direct me to a link to that application? all I can find is safestrap from hashcode.

i have this one: "Droid3CWBootstrap"

http://www.appbrain.com/app/droid-x-recovery-bootstrap/com.koushikdutta.droidx.bootstrap

but how can I install zip with it?
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
I'm sorry I didn't see your last PMs :D

Anyway.

1) Start in stock ROM http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1336980

(Or your non-safe ROM in safestrap and then remove safestrap)

2) After root, download bootstrap (I uploaded it) http://www.mediafire.com/?3u8xhmsp3lg5yfx

3) Install the APK and open the bootstrap app. Press install recovery then reboot recovery. You're now in bootstrap, not from using vol -+ etc (from your PM)

4) Flash mavrom using their CWM Recovery instructions

5) Once you got it setup, remove bootstrap app and install safestrap http://goo.gl/1pr5T

6) Reboot into safestrap and switch to safe system. Make a backup if you want before swithing. The switch will backup your current ROM (data), which is mavrom. Once in safe-system you can now flash ICS using the instructions. This will flash ICS in a different place. When you go back to non-safe system your mavrom will be restored.

Hope it's clear now
[Motorola Droid 3] bogdan_wrc:
thank you. sorry i "attacked" you with a lot of PMs. i tought you had enough :)

i will try it tomorrow.
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
Np ;) aside from the fact that I'm not on XDA all day the notification is very small - most of the time I don't see it until the next day
[Motorola Droid 3] zzandrewst:
Will this method work with Liberty as well? I have never installed safestrap, but have bootstrap installed. I thought that I had read that safestrap does not work with Liberty ROM.
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Afaik hashcode fixed safestrap to work with all roms
[Motorola Droid 3] zzandrewst:
Great! I will give it a try, basically I would just install safestrap and use Liberty as my non-safe and then flash cm7 for my safe right?
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
you can't flash nonsafe with safestrap. Gotta use a bootstrap to flash your nonsafe, then install safestrap for flash safesystem. But yes, i have liberty as my nonsafe and ics as my safe
[Motorola Droid 3] bogdan_wrc:
Last time i tried to install MAVROM using CWM, i got the following error:

E:signature verification failed

when updating zip from card.

Installation aborted

what to do?

I dont have the INSTALL from zip option, just UPDATE from zip.

that why i used safestrap.
[Motorola Droid 3] bogdan_wrc:
but if I want to install the boot animation from RAZR, now in which location shall I do that? it used to be in /system/media folder. still there?

thank you, i managed to install both one successfully.
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
I think thats because you tried to flash using original recovery, you said something with -+ volume buttons?
[Motorola Droid 3] calash:
Please be careful when doing this. While you "can" run 2 custom roms at once it is not what the safestrap system is designed for. Your non-safe rom should be stock and unaltered as it is what will save you from a fastboot flash should your safe rom go bad.
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
Well there's no reason to have the stock rom on non-safe "in case things go bad" because you can also just use "easy unbrick" which will put your phone back to stock just as fast as switching from safe to non safe.

As said before the only reason where this would be handy is when an official OTA is released, although i heard you need to uninstall safestrap for it to work
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Really a fastboot flash isn't such a big deal. I've done it more times than I can count. Takes 10 minutes. Id rather have my fav rom in nonsafe so I can use safe to testing new roms and new ics builds
[Motorola Droid 3] Akhilcoonoor:
Is this dual boot system possible for my phone ? I would like to switch froyo and cynaogenmod !
[Motorola Droid 3] calash:
I think you miss a key point. When you boot safestrap it starts in the non-safe system no matter what you do. Depending on your mode it then moves you to a totally separate partition on the device, preventing you from doing any harm to the boot rom.

The non-safe is key for the entire system to work. Yes it can be any rom, but you do put yourself at risk of losing two installs, including all the data.

Easy unbrick may be as fast to get to stock, but to rebuild back to where you were is going to take a lot longer.

In the end I am just advising caution, not telling people what to do. It does go against what the system was designed for and people should be aware of that before jumping off the ledge.
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
I understand, but now I have to go back to bootstrap to do essentially the same thing
[Motorola Droid 3] calash:
Not sure if I follow you..

If you are only working in Safe-mode Rom the worst you can do is blow that rom up. Fixing it is just a matter of restoring your last backup via Safestrap recovery.

The problem with working in non-safe rom is that you can blow up both and lose your recovery. From that point you have to do Fastboot, install bootstrap, restore non-safe backup, install SafeStrap, restore Safemode backup.

Unless I am not understanding you correctly.
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
How would I blow up both ROMs if I blow up my non-safe? I just switch to safe system which will still work
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
I don't care if I bork both roms, I have no problem fastboot flashing. And he's right, even if you. Bootloop your nonsafe, safe mode should still work. If you do regular nandroids, its easy enough to fastboot flash and restore your backup. To me safemode is just a test ground for new roms
[Motorola Droid 3] calash:
That is not how I understand the system to work.

The way I understand it ClockworkMod runs from a Hijack during the startup of the rom, creating a 2nd Init and allowing us a custom rom. This works great but presents a failure point in that we can damage that boot rom to the point where the hijack never gets to run. We end up having to use the Fastboot to fix this.

SafeStrap is designed to protect us from this point of failure. We still boot from the same rom, our non-safe, but when the hijack kicks in SafeStrap adjusts the mount points to the second system, our Safe rom. This allows us to completely destroy our active rom without damaging the recovery, as it lives on the booting rom.

Working in non-safe you lose that protection. Now you run the same risks as with the basic ClockworkMod, but with the additional risk of losing two data partitions instead of just the one.

So, as I understand it, if you really damage your non-safe you lose your recovery and access to the safe rom. Am I wrong in how I understand this?
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
I don't know, but I don't even know how to mess up my non-safe rom so much that it kills recovery
[Motorola Droid 3] calash:
I had thought a bad build.prop would do it but honestly I don't know that part of the code that well to say where the hijack is running from. Messing with the /system partition will probably get you a brick sooner than that.

Again, I am just advising caution as it creates a failure point that the system was designed to remove. As with everything we do in this forum it is risk/reward.
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Depends how bad you damage it. You gotta bork it pretty bad from what I understand. I've never been unable to enter recovery. And I think the thing is some of us don't care about fastboot flashing. Its an hour out of my time to fastboot, reflash roms, recovery, retheme, restore my apps if that long. I backup all apps and data daily with tibu.
[Motorola Droid 3] jenol:
Thank you i've been looking for bootstrap so I can change my safe rom
[Motorola Droid 3] calash:
If course it takes a good amount of damage, we are talking worst case scenarios here. However if it was not a risk at all we would not have backup capabilities in the recovery to begin with.

The act of flashing it probably the most risky thing we can do to the phone, the process for this dual boot has us both flashing and flipping recoveries.

And some of us do care. Some of us will be doing this without a computer nearby. Some are looking at a 2-2 1/2 hour rebuild on the device.

It can be a bit shorter if you manage your nandroids carefully, once you get the recovery in you should be able to rebuild from that.

Side question: Can Tibu manage two sets of recovery data to recovery both your non-safe and safe without interfering with each other? I honestly don't have the experience with it and this discussion has me quite curious.
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
Yes just make 2 folders
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
That's why I like the idea of extra warnings for flashing your nonsafe. Gives us the best of both worlds. You keep the benefit of the safe mode, but for those like myself we can get more use out of safestrap

I know tibu has some sort of profile setting but I haven't ever played with it. I imagine you can set a different profile for different roms
[Motorola Droid 3] zzandrewst:
I must have done something wrong because I got a blackscreen when I tried to restart after entering into safe mode. My droid 3 is running 2.3.4 and I have Liberty 2.0 installed on it. Here's what I did: made a nandroid backup before I changed anything through bootstrap recovery, uninstalled bootstrap recovery, uninstalled bootstrap application, installed safestrap and safestrap recovery. Rebooted into safestrap, made a nandroid backup, entered into safe mode. I clicked reboot and it gave me a black screen, I tried to pull battery and start up again and it gave me black screen again. I decided to restore nandroid I made in safestrap and it still gave me black screen, finallly I entered nonsafe mode and it booted up liberty. What do I need to do to get safestrap working so that I can install cm9 in safe mode? Sorry is this was lengthy, I am new at all of this and wanted to give enough info...thanks!
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
When you switch to safe for the first time you need to flash a rom into it. You're booting an empty /system. Switch to safe and flash cm9(or whatever)
[Motorola Droid 3] zzandrewst:
Haha...that makes perfect sense! Thanks!
[Motorola Droid 3] zzandrewst:
Thanks again. I flashed cm9 alpha 4 and it worked perfectly!
[Motorola Droid 3] eksempel_123:
wrong thread, delete me
[Motorola Droid 3] Kanly1:
Glad I found this thread. Was just about to post asking the same question.
[Motorola Droid 3] amedeh123:
I really dont think theres too much of a problem in borking both roms AND recovery (never managed to bork recovery tho)

you can always fastboot back to stock.. of course it is not ideal, but you can never really perma brick the D3, only by screwing up the SBF flash
[Motorola Droid 3] micwill:
can somebody point me in the right direction please? i can't find the bootstrap necessary to flash non-safe since the link in the first page doesn't work anymore...
[Motorola Droid 3] bogdan_wrc:
here is a link
[Motorola Droid 3] micwill:
thanks, you but thats safestrap which doesn't allow flashing to non-safe. i was looking for the older bootstrap version since i wanted to install eclipse as my primary system. was it "ClockworkMod Recovery From Koush" that i can use?
[Motorola Droid 3] Kanly1:
The one I found was labeled Droid3CWBootstrap.apk. I will link it when I get a second. Don't forget to reroot after flashing over your primary system.
[Motorola Droid 3] micwill:
thank you, i found several of them slightly differing in size and differing in md5sums (dont have permissions to sent links here yet).

after flashing a custom rom (which is already rooted) to non-safe i have to root again???
[Motorola Droid 3] bogdan_wrc:
then try here.
[Motorola Droid 3] Kanly1:
I did a factory reset/cache/dalvik wipe and had to reroot. It may not be the same for all rooms though.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] adwaitk007:
Hello guys,

I am currently using CyanogenMod-7.1.0-RC1-Cooper-KANG by Grif_07.

The most important thing missing in this great ROM is "grouping" contacts!

I am a text geek and I send around 100+ SMS daily to my friend circle. I foreword SMS to my friends which I group according to my convenience. I was doing this with my Gingerbread unrooted SGA. But now I have rooted my phone and installed most amazing ROM but it's lagging this extremely important basic feature. I did search and found that CaynogenMod officially not having this feature and can't found any patch for this. I used GO SMS pro but failed to create any group. It shows group tab but not allowing me to add any contact to the groups. I also used Handcent sms app. It is allowing me to creat group but after creating a group it do not allow editing group. So all we have to rebuild the group which is pathetic.

So is there any solution to my problem? Any app or patch to enable grouping feature to send group sms?

Waiting for your reply,

Regards,

Adwait
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] iSumair:
Guys i have tried "23 Langs HD2 Pdaimatejam Rom Wp7.5 mango 7740 v4"

and it didn't lock my sd card (only made 2 partitions 200 mb and other unformatted)

But when i installed XB mod's WP7 rom my SD card was locked and it was even unreadable for card reader. Later i managed to revive it somehow.

Now my Question is I am going to try "Pdaimatejam ROM WP7.5 Mango 8107 v6.5"

will this Lock my SD card or not ?? because i dont want my sd card to be locked again........ :confused:
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Anden1986:
Hi!

Nope it won't lock up anything ;-) That's the great thing with these custom roms! The reason why Yuki / XBmod locks up the card is that it's as close to stock as possible - and official MS roms lock the SD card because of security :-)

/Anders
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] iSumair:
Thanks bro :-)
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] Anden1986:
No problem mate! ;-)

/Anders
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] pakure:
On yukixbmod rom, and you can send sdcard unlock cab to easily unlock card and boot into android or use in pc/reader..
[G Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cgingermany:
My bad for dragging this along but I did use the search box and scanned through to try and find it. I went back to stock 1.1-3588 and was wondering if anyone can help me run the normal gapps on the stock rom? Or, is it even doable? Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] demon2112:
whn i hit the multi task butten all recent apps are there.... when i swipe them away THEY DONT CLOSE people!!!

the only thing that is working forbme is android assistant and have the ramm widget onscreen and tap it once in a while.....

so it wont close when you swipe it away!!!!!!

Galaxy Nexus met Tapatalk
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrPhilo:
So will you guys be swapping your Asus Transformer Prime for a similar product? Im sure most people are purchasing this due to the extra keyboard dock or tegra 3.

EDIT: Personally I'll be sticking with Asus Prime for now, its a good device.

Specification:

10.1" Screen IPS Display

Qualcomm Snapdragon 8960 (28mn TSMC) Dual-Core 1.7Ghz / Adreno 225 GPU 400 Mhz (Overclocked Adreno 220 + Better driver)

20 Hour battery Life

Keyboard Dock like Asus Transformer

16/32/64gb

The GPU is just on par with Mali 400MP which is a shame (GLBenchmark) but that is early benchmark.

Overclocking should be alot better for the CPU, since its a 28mn, I guess reaching over 2.0Ghz is fine!

Information:

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWAOmO4LUIo
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
I certainly won't be going through the trouble of changing to this. This doesn't really look to add anything of value for me (don't need gps and my wifi works fine), and if pricing from lenovo in the past stays true this will likely be more expensive then the equivalent primes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] L3rry:
That's surprising because of the GFLOPS specs for the GPUs:

Tegra 3 Kal-El: 7.2 GFLOPS

Qualcomm 8960 Adreno 225: 19.2 GFLOPS

PowerVR SGX543MP2: 19.2 GFLOPS

And per Anandtech "Qualcomm claims that MSM8960 will be able to outperform Apple's A5 in GLBenchmark 2.x at qHD resolutions." Of course, Qualcomm would say that but even if it is on par with the iPad2 (543MP2) it will still significantly outperform the Tegra3.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrPhilo:
Yes but driver is the most important. Since Tegra 3 Ka el is clocked higher than 300Mhz, the 7.2 GFLOPs doesn't count.

I'd doubt it'll significantly outperform the Tegra 3 GPU. Just like the Adreno 220 was meant to be better but isn't much different.

Even Qualcomm admited that it'll only have 50% more performance than its current Adreno 220.

FML, GLBenchmark took down Asus TF202 with the GPU. It just performed lower than the Mali GPU, wish I saved the website.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] L3rry:
Yes, I saw that comment posted in another tread and I tried to google it but could not find it. Hopefully, Anandtech will put something out soon once demos for these newer tablets are available.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Godswrath:
I've personally had a lot of headaches in the past with Lenovo laptops so I doubt I'll be making another Lenovo purchase. (Google "Y530 Lenovo Hinges" if you're interested in the issue- it was a common problem due to faulty design.)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hairdewx:
The powerVR and Adreno have much more efficient rendering methods than the Tegra chips, so this tablet is no pushover at all.

I wouldn't be surprised if real world performance is better than the tegra 3 outside of tegra 3 specific apps.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] french toast 2:
hey

The Adreno 225 + SGX 543 MP2 both get 19.2 gflops @300mhz. we dont know the clock speed of the A5 but we can speculate that its probably around the 250-300mhz range.

That makes the Adreno(@400) more powerfull in flops than even the A5/tegra 3, however flops dont tell the whole story, as the A5 has twice the number of TMU's so has a higher fill rate clock for clock and better texturing capability.

The A5 will likely have more ROPs as well, but i dont know that.

The A5 will also have slightly higher bandwidth i think.

Looking at what Anand has said, the adreno 220, only had single channel memory=low bandwidth, it also probably poor effeciency in getting data to the shaders, i think Power vr are more effecient than adreno 2xx series.

The drivers on Adreno were not very good either, indeed some developers on this forum have managed to DOUBLE the adreno 205@220 using the newist Adreno drivers from qualcomm, i think shaky153 was leading the charge with.

I would be very suprised if the Adreno 225 equaled the A5, but it might equal or slightly beat the tegra 3..especially at higher resolutions due to tegras lack of bandwidth.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hamdir:
I don't understand why Nvidia doesn't announce the GPU clock speed!! they detailed it with T2! which means there is something to hide

AP25 was 400Mhz, so T3 shouldn't be under 400mhz

this discussion would be a lot easier if we know the actual clock speed
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Prime/Nvidia rules!

Plus Lenovo had No developement support at all. And they are one of the slowest to release firmware updates. Everything is basically dead in Lenovo land.

It seems OK. But nothing enticing to make me think twice about trading my Prime. PRIME is just to cool all around.
[HTC Sensation] cortexdk:
Hey.

is there anyone who can tell me what super smooth Rosie is and what it used to

Sorry I am new to android and here on XDA (is this the right place to post it?)
[HTC Sensation] ddizzy81:
It removes the 3d effect of the transition from homescreen to homescreen..making it faster

Sent From My HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
And really this should have gone in the Q&A section because it is quite obviously a question
[HTC Sensation] ddizzy81:
Agreed but still thought I should help him out

Sent From My HTC Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] omar302:
Try searching?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Hogwarts:
This is a personal review. I'm not affiliated with any products mentioned

There is an app that I found that lets you have a phone number over Wi-Fi

and people can send you texts for free all day long. you can also send them

It has free calling to other app users. otherwise you have to purchase minutes

The name of the app is text plus and it's amazing

Would have to recommend it for anyone wanting to save money or people with a BAD ESN phone like me. so you can still play around with your xperia lol
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Leraeniesh:
Another great bottle of useless content.

Sent from R800x
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Rogue Leader:
I agree...

But I'll bite on this guy... why does your phone have a bad ESN? Try to pull a scam on Verizon too?

Edit: Forget it I looked through his old drivel... I mean posts, and found the answer
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] TLRtheory:
I got textPlus GOLD for free from the Amazon Appstore.

It actually is very useful for people who are interested in cuttin' out texting fees. Voxer is nice too for people who want to make data calls, and that could be the revolution that kills minute calling plans... but only if everyone were using it at the same time.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Hogwarts:
I buy bad ESN phones from ebay and other auction sites such as craiglist

It's a way to have every phone you want for cheap cheap

more then half off prices brand new in box

I have alot of phones. none of them have network except my nextel with 2 way radio.

the other ones are for my tinker hobby
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] antispiral:
I get free unlimited texting from Verizon or I would use this. Also what's the difference between this and Google voice?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Hogwarts:
Dont know anything about google voice.

care to explain how it works
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Leraeniesh:
Its the same thing as this, only with a web app, intigration with com.android.phone, simpler less bloated design, and adfree.

Sent from R800x
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Hogwarts:
google voice is not an option for people with no network.

if you have no phone number it wont verify and it wont work

so this app is useless unless you already have a carrier / call phone plan

So textplus gives you a phone number and free texting even if you have no carrier or network signal.

cant be beaten.

p.s your signature is violating website rules of XDA
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CrimsonKnight13:
Do you say that to everyone you see that has an animated signature?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Rogue Leader:
Hes one to talk, he violates XDA's rules by posting crap all day long.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] AndroHero:
Regardless of your opinions, you cannot pick and choose what rules you wish to obay. If indeed it is against the rules to have animated .gif's in a sig, the user should be told and he did nothing wrong by pointing it out, you childish comments are not nessesary.
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] CrimsonKnight13:
I don't see how its childish (& I can't speak for anyone else here). I asked a simple question since I have not seen this supposed rule listed in the forum rules. Its not even on topic. He should have PM'd the "culprit" of this rule-breaking & discussed it privately

Why are you playing devil's advocate?
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] brochador:
Is this like a viber?

Oh well, i'll just try it..
[Xperia Play Themes and Apps] Leraeniesh:
Google Voice works without a phone number.

Please visit app GrooVe IP

Google Voice has always, and always will, work over a WiFi Network.

Last note: Next time, please do not make my signature the topic subject of a thread.