yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] preacher65:
Most ROMs include everything but the radio, so everything else is covered.

The only other thing that might be worth checking is the hboot version, on the same screen that you got the radio version from. I can't think of many times when you'd need it, but if you ever apply Eng S-Off, which replaces the hboot, you might want to know what version the phone originally came with. It's unlikely but can't hurt.

Incidentally, the best way to revert to stock (for example if you have to send the phone back for repairs), is to flash an RUU, and that includes everything - ROM, radio, hboot, the lot.

So I'd say you're fine. :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ndbubbles:
Thanks again for the useful information :)

I have Eng S-OFF so i guess cant check my oringinal one? Unless is a way too do this.

Also apparently i dont have ENG Bootloader. When i tried flashing a new splash screen. Is this easily available?

Thanks..
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] preacher65:
Sorry to ask, but are you sure your phone has Eng S-Off? :) There are two types of S-Off, Radio S-Off and Eng S-Off. Eng S-Off completely replaces the standard hboot with a special engineering hboot, that removes a lot of security. One of the things it does is allow you to use fastboot commands to flash things like rRadios and splash screens.

If you have Eng S-Off, on the bootloader screen the first line will say

"ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"

and the hboot version is

HBOOT-0.85.2007

If you have this version, you have the engineering hboot (or bootloader) and should be able to flash a splash screen.

If it says "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF" then you only have Radio S-Off, which allows you to flash custom ROMs, but not to flash anything that uses the fastboot.exe to flash, such as radios and splashes.

If you don't have Eng S-Off yet, check this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=855403

(You don't need to run Visionary before the tool if you already have a custom ROM with root.)

But be careful if you have an Inspire 4G (as opposed to a Desire HD), as the Eng S-Off method causes issues with some newer Inspires.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ndbubbles:
Oh. Mine says ace pvt ship s-off.

I assumed I had done everything when I used the ace hack.

I assume I have DHD lol

Thanks for the link :)) made my DHD ENG S-OFF in seconds.. Now i can apply some splash screens

you are a star.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] preacher65:
Excellent, glad you got it working. Have fun customising your phone even more! :)

BTW the Inspire 4G is a variant of the DHD made by HTC for the AT&T network, and I'm sure you'd know if you had an Inspire rather than a DHD. They're almost the same phone, but there are just a few minor hardware differences. Many ROMs are made to work on both models, so a lot of the Inspire users frequent the DHD forums as well as the Inspire ones, and I always like to just double check in cases where the technical advice might vary. :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ndbubbles:
Dum question but what differences between the two are there?

If you know that is lol.

Or a way I can check.

Thanks :)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] preacher65:
In most important ways they're identical. The biggest difference is that the Inspire 4G has an AT&T logo on the back. ;)

The Inspire also has more internal memory, but it can only access the same amount of RAM as the DHD. I think there is also a small difference in the audio hardware, which is automatically detected by most custom ROMs during initial flashing, so that the correct sound files can be installed.

Plus the Inspire has (I think) a different transmitter, due to the differences between the worldwide 3G networks and the AT&T one in the USA:

DHD:

HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs

Inspire 4G:

HSPA+: 850/1900 MHz

GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs

Then there's the Telus DHD sold in Canada (and possibly NZ?), which I think is like an Inspire but with the same amount of RAM as the standard DHD. Confused yet? :D

http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/htc_desire_hd/index.shtml
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marsdta:
Just adding my. 2 cents.

Both the inspire and dhd are the same outside of the 3g frequencies and inspire having a dual Mic plus. Everything else is eseentially the same with sutle difference like the audio files and touchscreen(atmel vs synaptics)

The internal memory looks to be more on the inspire but its not its just how att markets it. The phone has 4gb rom, BUT only 1.5 is user accessible just like the dhd. So technically its not lying just spinning the truth.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ndbubbles:
Thanks for the input.

I checked mine its definetly a DHD not inspire :))

Won't of mattered but good to know I have what I paid for.

Thanks guys.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ndbubbles:
Hi.

Just a quick question. After flashing ARHD and RcMIX and cyanogen rom im stuck with the kernal from RcMix now im on cyanogen it is not running to smooth.

How do I go about including the kernal for each rom?

As I thought the roms included them.

I do complete wipe but still doesn't remove.

Thanks for any info and help
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marsdta:
Roms do include the kernal or they wouldn't boot. If the old kernal stayed your phone wouldn't of booted up on cm. Maybe it was a bad flash? When you wipe did you do a full? Data/system/cache/dalvik?

Also why do you feel it didn't remove it? In about phone what's it say for kernal?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ndbubbles:
I did actually think they contained them. I did a cache-dalvik wipe also using ARHD super wipe. In phone info says Rcmix kernal etc.

Maybe it has not updated the info.

I actually think it is the radio affecting the wifi.

As I have not changed this from the original radio as im scared of bricking the DHD
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marsdta:
Hmm that's interesting. I would say rewipe and flash again. Also for cm I personally recommend lordclockans kernal.

To flashing radios its not as scary as it seems but caution should be taken. If you do decide to flash a new radio just make sure to check the md5sum for file inegrity
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ndbubbles:
How and where do I check the md5 sum?

It most likely seems im taking the easy way asking these things as I could search it.

But it is easier for me too learn getting a direct answer from you :) as reading loads of pages will confuse me even further.

Thanks for the help
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marsdta:
Generally when you download a radio either the img by itself or in a contained pd98img(my preference as one can flash a radio without a PC) a md5 sum is given. When you download it you want to make sure it matches to make sure it downloaded correctly. Sometimes for what ever reason it gets corrupted.

The way I check is using es file explorer. I browse to my pd98 in my phone and long press and choose properties and compare the md5.

If you prefer using fastboot and a PC, I personally use md5sums 1.2, but any will do.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ndbubbles:
I would most likely use the non PC route as my laptop has its moments of freezing up on me.

Is it a simple matter of flashing the radio like the rom?

If not do you have a link on the process.

Thanks
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marsdta:
Its slightly different. What you do is take the pd98img formatted radio zip.(make sure its named exactly PD98IMG)-caps matter. Place the file in the root of your SD card(not in a folder). Verify the md5. Reboot into hboot and press up to update
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ndbubbles:
Ahh ok. seems simple anoth to apllie the radio. thanks for the info. MD5 is the main thing i will definetly check so goes smoothly.

thanks again
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rboone18:
Has anyone had issues with it just disappearing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jivy26:
Only when I close my eyes sir or turn the phone off :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phalanx7621:
Rofl. +10 char. I experienced this too. Weird.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Red5:
Nope, but I have the paid version which I dont use... I use Tapatalk.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jdbeitz:
The only issues I have is that images don't like to load correctly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
Or at all sometimes.

And you can't thank directly in the app, but that is more a feature than bug.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Red5:
Thats why I use Tapatalk... fixes both of those issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jdbeitz:
Downloading now!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ZeroIsntTheHero:
Agreed. Tapatalk is the best.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
You most certainly can thank from the app.. you just tap on the post. Its there with the rest of the options..

Lol.. or i guess that's only for peeps that bought the paid (donate) version :-\
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rboone18:
I switched to tapatalk will see if this one will not disappear.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] wonner:
I use Tapatalk over XDA premium as well because I have several sites I frequent that are on Tapatalk.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jemack:
Just in case anyone is broke after Christmas, tapatalk app is free through Samsung apps. Although if you download it there it will not show up in installed apps in the market.
[HTC Wildfire S] Android311:
I see a lot of people here instaling cm7 on there marvelc, just curious if they r official or test? I didn't no that they was cm7 for the wildfire s (virgin mobile)

HTC Wildfire S (VM) "s-off" "rooted" Stock Rom
[HTC Wildfire S] hanynemesis:
there is no official cm7 for marvel or marvelc

all unofficial u can find them in development section search there
[HTC Wildfire S] Android311:
I always checked but I just thought maybe I missed something, thanks

HTC Wildfire S (VM) "s-off" "rooted" Stock Rom
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Desertio:
How can i use Rom Manager work with amon RA recovery? Is that even possible? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] nixie2121:
today I downloaded this app it was free. I uninstalled by accident and now can't find in the market..anyone have it??
[Android Apps and Games] funkyboy1281:
have you tried looking on market.android.com? It should show you any recent purchases under my account or you can also look under my library too and see if you can find it there too.
[Android Apps and Games] nixie2121:
this was a free app. how can I see history using the old market app?
[Android Apps and Games] nixie2121:
ok. I see where you meant. the app is not showing anywhere...sucks
[Android Apps and Games] LeeTy:
When I start it ti's giving me an error and does nothing. How can I fix that?
[Android Apps and Games] Braneless:
Try googling the app name to see if someone has the apk hosted. Usually works for me when the crap market search engine fails to locate apps I've downloaded and used many times in the past.
[General Questions and Answers] Charles314:
For HRPD systems (1xEV-DO 0, a, b, etc.), I am having difficulty understanding when an access terminal receives the SID of an access network. In 1xRTT, the SID is being constantly broadcast on the Sync channel with a Sync message. In HRPD, the Sync message is constantly broadcast on the Control Channel but the data fields are only 1) MessageID, 2) MaximumRevision, 3) MinimumRevision, 4) PilotPN and 5) SystemTime.

I see that the HRPD Location Updata procedure in the Application layer provides a way for the access terminal to request the SID of the access network but I assume that I must be missing something. Why would HRPD systems be designed to allow for obtaining the SID ONLY after a session has been established? If the access terminal's perferred roaming list has PREF_ONLY=1 and the access network of which the access terminal is attempting to connect has its SID set as PREF_NEG=0 then it has to go all the way through session establishment just to figure out that the base station it is attempting to access is not one that it is permitted to connect to. It seems so ineffecient, hence the reason why I believe I am confused.

Also, the QuickConfig message and the SectorParameters message of the Overhead Messages Protocol (broadcast on the Control Channel before a session is established) also contain no SID so this does not eliminate the need to establish a session in order for the access terminal to obtain the SID.

So, do the access networks broadcast their SIDs (prior to a session) in some way that I am missing or in some way that is not in the standards? Do HRPD access terminal manufactures configure the devices to have the capability to obtain the SID before establishing a session and before having to receive it with a unicast message after session establishment?

I appreciate any help and references to applicable standards. If I am not confused, then what is the point of waiting until a session is established before the access network reveals its SID? I don't see any reason why anyone would want to change from how it was done in 1xRTT.
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
As now we can unlock Wildfire S Bootloader I tried some ways to permanently root this device.

Gingerbreak seems not to work, however, Zerg rush does.

You either need an S-OFF device OR an S-ON device with unlocked bootloader

Read here how to unlock bootloader: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21114312

There is a VERY EASY way to root WFS now. I take no credits in writing any stuff related to rooting that, I just want to show how you can easily root the WFS and give newbies a first station to come to.

Please come here, and download HTC Supertools by frigid, give him a million thanks, download tools and run the supertools.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1426276

Be sure to use HTC Supertool v3 (directly download here: http://www.multiupload.com/ZNGJ64FZDW)

1) Press 1 (Prep (using zergRush CREDITS to Revolutionary)) and Enter, zerg rush is now run

2) Press 3 (Attempt Perm Root (Must prep first)) and Enter, now the device will get rooted

3) type reboot and Enter to reboot your device.

Afterwards your WFS will be permanently rooted.

If you stuck rooting the device try this:

1) Press 2 and Enter, instead of 1

2) Press 3 (Attempt Perm Root (Must prep first)) and Enter, now the device will get rooted

3) type reboot and Enter to reboot your device.

I tested it with European latest Stock Rom 2.3.5 and HTC-Dev unlocked bootloader. I can confirm that a file could be copied to /system, then I rebooted again and the file was still there.

-----------------------------

What next?

eoghan2t7 created a fine auto-installer for ClockWorkMod, your door into recovery and custom roms !

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1431969
[HTC Wildfire S] No.12:
Isn't 2 attempt root and number 3 attempt s-off,sim unlock?

EDIT: I still have v2 and I see now that v3 is out.
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
1 and 2 are different ways to prepare the phone getting rooted.

3 does root the phone

4 is Attempt S-OFF, SIM Unlock, and everything else (Using gfree) but I did NOT test this menu entry, however, it would not work I think.
[HTC Wildfire S] No.12:
Yes,I see now.I had v2 and in v3 it is different.

Thanks.
[HTC Wildfire S] raven.warsong:
will this work with wildfire s GSM T-Mobile. after root can I install rommanager and flash with clock works recovery? thanks much
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
It works with all S-OFFed phones and with all htc-dev bootloader unlocked phones. So either S-OFF with XTC-Clip or unlock bootloader at htc-dev.com.

However, there seems to be a problem unlocking US T-Mobile Roms bc there is no RUU yet to update hboot.

If rom manager works I don't know. I just tested permanent rooting
[HTC Wildfire S] nikhilkaushik:
The unlocked bootloader method to root WFS

Th method given by HTC to unlock bootloaders does not allow a user to flash a custom ROM. So I guess S-OFF is still required. I have been testing it myself from past 8 hours now. If there is any other method then please do let me know.
[HTC Wildfire S] eoghan2t7:
What methods are you trying?
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
It does allow custom roms. I read from a user he installed cm7 with s-on.

allowing custom roms is the sense of bootloader unlocking
[HTC Wildfire S] nikhilkaushik:
Well, I have tried th direct flashing method by placing the file into the root of SD card and the Manager method. Both seem to show the same output, an image showing nothing but error note.

---------- Post added at 07:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:50 AM ----------

@theq86 I have been trying the same from past several hours, but I don't seem to find any positive hope.... I would be really thankful if u can help me in finding that methos using which one can flash a custom ROM with S-ON on WFS
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
well, sorry for asking but:

you surely did the bootloader unlocking process until the end, and your hboot says "UNLOCKED"?

For flashing roms please better refer to eoghan for I have not much experience.

Edit:

have you tried flashing via fastboot, too?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21104317&postcount=76
[HTC Wildfire S] nikhilkaushik:
Well, rather than following any other methods given, I preferred to follow HTC's given method to unlock bootloader. I have seen it thoroughly and yes I hav access to root as well. Some root required apps are also running. But the main reason to unlock the bootloader was to overclock my phone's processor, which could not be done on the stock ROM of HTC. Hence I tried to flash CM7.0.2 and jikantaru's ROM as well, which he claimed to have made the stock ROM with sense allowed the overclocking.

If you still can find a better way to flash ROMs with S-ON, then we all would be greatfull to that user....
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
I updated main post, there is a link to the developers section. eoghan has made an easy installer for CWM, so that would make it very easy to install CM ;)
[HTC Wildfire S] meanmug:
Tmobile probally wont support it, upgrade to Euro rom its better anyway, shouldn't make any difference since you'll probaly be flashing a custom rom soon.
[HTC Wildfire S] makhongmat:
The step 2 (press 3 and enter), how long it done??? I've waited for 15 mi... :(
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
it just took a few secs.
[HTC Wildfire S] infected85:
This said that it rooted my phone but my phone is still s-on...?
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
Yes. With unlocked bootloader the /system, /recovery and /boot partitions have been unlocked. Yet, this is not FULL S-OFF. We still can't flash radios.
[HTC Wildfire S] baaabovka:
yop, thats correct! there is still no method to s-off. BUT, thanks to htc-dev we can open bootloader and root!
[HTC Wildfire S] feroxxx:
at the end of ROOTED wildfire S :)
[HTC Wildfire S] infected85:
Thank you both +1
[HTC Wildfire S] baase:
Hi all!

I am new here. Can anyone help me please? When I type that line: fastboot oem get_identifier_token I have got this message:

<bootloader> [ERR] command error !!!

OKAY [ 0,008s ]

finished. total time: 0,008s

Where is the problem? :confused:

My phone:

MARVEL PVT SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-1.08.0099

MICORP-0451

RADIO-7.53.39.03M

(And I am from hungary.)

Thanks for you replies.
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
Please follow my tutorial here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1432199

Your error message means that you did not flash the latest HBOOT. Without that you can not unlock your bootloader!
[HTC Wildfire S] baase:
I do it with your tutorial and I uprageded the hboot so but the problem is same :(
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
Go into HBOOT. If the very first line is pink and says either LOCKED OOW or UNLOCKED then you have the right HBOOT.

The new HBOOT does support fastboot oem get_identifier_token

If it does not (which leads to your error) you probably did not properly update HBOOT
[HTC Wildfire S] Tread3r:
Hi.

Im new here but I have followed everything you said theq86 from the unlocking procedure of htc dev to the root link you posted. My problem is I cant get past the root procedure. I have enabled debugging and my WFS is connected to the pc but and I have done the zerg rush action (press 1) then press 3. Im stuck at a command prompt screen with

"Loading root script......

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully"

I dont believe I missed anything since I have confirmed my WFS to be unlocked (pink screen saying "unlocked" at the fastboot menu) I read frigid's own thread and tried downloading the HTC drivers but it doesnt seem to be installed in my pc?

Any thoughts? Thanks.
[HTC Wildfire S] baase:
I tried to update hboot from htcdev.com again but now I have got an error 191 rom not supported message... When I do this first time it hasnt got any problem... I have no idea :(
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
download HTC Sync from official HTC site.

this will also install the drivers.

I don't know more for I did not have this problem.
[HTC Wildfire S] Tread3r:
Edit:

Just tried pressing 2 then 3 and waited a couple of minutes. Says ROOTED afterwards. hopefully im not hard headed and believe this. Going to try flashing a ROM now. Be back with conclusion
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
then you have to wait till your carrier supports unlocking with htcdev. or flash EU Stock Rom. There's a guide somewhere out there.
[HTC Wildfire S] Tuoni:
How long is it supposed to take? It's been on "loading root script" for a while now, and I'm worried I've done something wrong.
[HTC Wildfire S] theq86:
it differs. I needed 20 secs, others say it took some mins. just be patient
[HTC Wildfire S] Nightshadow931:
It's loading root script here for about 10 mins, still working.
[HTC Wildfire S] No.12:
Mine took about half a minute,and then flashed ROOT,typed rebooting and everything worked well.

But I still can't remove some app from CM7 rom,or maybe that's not posible?
[HTC Wildfire S] Mazer.one:
i have the same prob for about 15 mins ...:confused:
[HTC Wildfire S] Tread3r:
Success (almost) I now have Clockwork Mod courtesy of the links :D and am now partitionning my sd for a ROM. Any suggestions for a stable ROM preferably one with overclocking? I was thinking JikantaruROM XE. Anyone know any other good (stable) ROMS to try ?
[HTC Wildfire S] Tuoni:
Still having problems with this. It's been 'loading root script' for about twenty minutes now. Is there something specific I need to do for it to load the script properly? I'm on the latest HTC EU ROM and I've unlocked the bootloader perfectly with HTCdev. I have no idea what's gone wrong.
[HTC Wildfire S] Tread3r:
I also had the same problem but then I debugged the usb from Applications/Development and then pressed 2 NOT 1 and then 3, waited then saw big "ROOTED" flashing.
[HTC Wildfire S] Mazer.one:
yess it works after debug mode off -> on

thanks
[HTC Wildfire S] Nightshadow931:
That did the trick, thanks.
[HTC Wildfire S] Tread3r:
No Problem :D
[HTC Wildfire S] Tread3r:
Just like to say thanks for all your help :D Glad you took the time to post what you did so we would have a relatively easy time with the whole procedure :)

Am currently "S-off" running CWM and playing around with different ROMs all thanks to you and those you linked us to. Thanks Again!
[HTC Wildfire S] ash_01:
Just unlocked my phone using htcdev.com

But somehow the supertool isn't working for me.

after pressing 3 the screen is stuck on a message saying "loading root script.....":confused:

Using supertool v3

How do i get around this?

edit: pressed 2 instead 1 and it worked.

SOrry for this.:(

ROOTED successfully.
[HTC Wildfire S] striker280:
for supertool v3 can i use #5?

it says unlock bootloader using htcdev

can i just click #5 before?