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[Desire HD General] FurryCup:
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WoWzeerS! Blue seems to be the most popular colour in modding. (Android have noticed). Good luck with that. :D
[Desire HD General] PaulWilks:
I like it. The ROM needs a lot of work still, but it's still very good as it is. I really need the camera to work for me to switch to it permanently, but I've found it fast, responsive and plenty of cool features.
[Desire HD General] MiXed92:
I'm waiting with ICS until HTC has released their Sense for it.

@acidspider

Maybe with Sense there will be less blue in there ;)
[Desire HD General] ErOR22:
Just a few days ago I flashed ICS and man, I'm never going back to cm7. I don't even care camera doesn't work at the moment since to me it feels like finally it's taking advantage of the power. CM7 after a month just because laggy and so slow.

Using it with Launcher 360, it's fast, fluid and I'm lovin it :D
[Desire HD General] MrGarak:
I wasn't too impressed to begin with, but when I delved into the new features I started to get more and more impressed. I love ICS.

The one thing I do find poor is some of the system icons, the browser one in particular is a pretty awful design imo.

Ew.

This is how it should be done:
[Desire HD General] HTC_Phone:
To me, ICS is much better than CM7 or any other ROM for that matter. Yea, there are a few little kinks that I would like to see fixed (Like the easier way to delete a contact), but we all have to remember that ICS was released in October. Thats not a long time for a ROM to become "Perfect" in the consumer's eyes.

I think ICS will become a VERY stable ROM, not just on the Desire HD/Inspire 4G, but every other phone that has the opportunity to taste it.

@OriginalPoster Honeycomb was designed for Tablets, and Tablets only (Although I'm sure you knew that) Tablets are designed faster and with more capabilities than most smartphones, so Honeycomb is probably more fluid in UI and design.
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
ICS+sense 3.5 is very stylish, ICS AOSP feels empty and minimalistic, but yes I'm not so fond of the tron theme feels a bit gimmicky

despite what everyone says sense will always save you a lot of effort and apps and unify the way everything looks, it was starting to feel outdated but I think sense 3.5 refreshed things again, also they to have improved their coding efforts considerably sense 3.5 is lighting fast and stable
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
anyone tried playing gta 3 on ICS? i'm getting lags on no matter which rom i try without OC.
[Desire HD General] Formhault:
I love blue. Blue is my favourite color. Although, I somewhat like MIUI better than ICS. Even CyanogenMod... Damn, there's something about CyanogenMod that makes me like it, even though it's stock GB. Every time I flash CyanogenMod, I remember there were better ROMs (like MIUI), and I flash back, lol.

ICS... I tried it on my old Desire (AMOLED) and on the Desire HD (LCD) as well. Damn, it was looking FANTASTIC on the Desire. Now... not so much... it's not as bright and vivid :(

Anyway, I'll stick to MIUI for the moment. When ICS will be ready... :D
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Have to disagree

ICS is beautiful. It is very consistent unlike Gingerbread, which is very patchy

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[Desire HD General] TwistedSanity666:
where are you guys finding an ICS rom for DHD? Maybe I've missed out, but I've only seen GB 2.3.5 roms so far :S
[Desire HD General] ErOR22:
Might want to look in the Android Development section....

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765

I suggest you try BeatMod, also use some other launcher since the stock one a bit laggy.
[Desire HD General] pspfree:
should give a try on that since I just managed to root my phone.. finally..
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
When CM9 is complete. It will be the best ROM. Hands down

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[Desire HD General] faasss:
ICS seems just okay. Sense 4.0 is something that I look forward to :)
[Desire HD General] meinmichi:
The devs ans modder makes a wonderful Job Herr ob XDA!

I think someone make beautiful themes for ics...

If you dislike that work, make your own.. ans we make a poll about..
[Desire HD General] clouds5:
Sense 3.5 is stylish, very fast with the right rom and romcleaner. I'm totally happy and not really interested in ICS to be honest.

I'm really looking forward to the transformer prime with ICS though!
[Desire HD General] cruzin_cruzing:
Have you seen the new MIUI v4.0, that looks nice and clean.
[Desire HD General] tyroavi:
Seems a bit odd from the previous android releases. Agreed !
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
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Ics is good for android, its finally broke the mould of the last few releases,

froyo,gingerbread etc,

i like the style of it,more than anything im waiting for htc to bring sense 4.0 to the table and see how it rocks..the sensation version im looking forward to trying but its still sense 3.5 hashed over the top of sandwich..

all in all though,i think ice cream sandwich is looking rosey

Finally lol google making majel voice assistant,another thing looking forward to!

but yeah for novelty value lol but its looking good from all reports,google trying some great intergration
[Desire HD General] DavidTiger:
I love it and was using it as my main OS but I need the camera so its not for me at the moment :)

Although I did dislike the Yes/OK.. Cancel buttons being the other way around but I got used to it.. As soon as the camera is fixed I'll be going back to it :cool:
[Desire HD General] BenRoark:
I've tried a couple of ICS betas and I have to confess... I don't really understand what the fuss is all about. Aesthetics, layout, structure, performance... ICS hasn't won me over at all, and the more glowing reviews I see by important industry folks (and testimonies by awesome XDA devs), the more confused I get. I feel like I'm missing something, or maybe blind or something.

I'll have another decent look when we're out of beta but, at the moment, my hopes are hung almost solely on CM9.
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
thing is, ICS came out after gingerbread and as far as i believe, google wouldn't release the same things as gingerbread and just theme them to look fancy (though it is possible that the one built from source might be a bit different than the one officially released). They must have included better gpu rendering drivers, sensor improvements, and many more things with improvements over gingerbread....

If you believe that then ICS should be considered an improvement over GB and should be looking forwards to it.
[Desire HD General] dannorth:
IMHO, ICS has many improvements over gingerbread. This YouTube video shows off some of the new features.

Personally I really like the way ICS can group icons like folders. I think a part of the experience of ICS will be lost without a front facing camera.

Take some time and read through the dev thread. It's clear what's working and what's not, and why this rom will be cool or not.

Hopefully Sense on ICS takes full advantage of the new OS.

Unfortunately, ICS isn't a daily driver for me just yet - but it's getting close. I find myself, reluctantly, going back to my 2nd favorite rom.

To answer the OP's original question: Yeah, I really like ICS, from what I've seen so far.
[Desire HD General] theblackdog:
I think it's fantastic. I love the simplicity. I love the fact that there is no info on whether one will be able to change the look. Rock solid so far.

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FREE HTC DESIRE HD CAMERA IN ICS
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
To be honest I am not impressed either. AOSP roms have not done that in a long time. They get decent radio drivers and other others drivers and I will be inpressed. Until then Ill take an OEM based rom anyday.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
IMO, I personally love the new ICS UI and feel.

However, I think it is highly overrated too.

There's not much of a 'huge' jump apart from the obvious visual changes

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Sent from my HTC Desire S
[Desire HD General] Grant Barker:
I'm not into ICS yet either at the moment. I've tried the betas and I'm keeping a close eye on updates. I will change to it just to stay up-to-date with any ICS-only compatible launchers, apps and other stuff going forward, but until the camera is fixed and it's out of beta - it's my preferred MIUIAndroid for now (2.1.6). I'm also paranoid about entering the APN details incorrectly, and my favourite app to do that, APN Backup & Restore, doesn't work with ICS. (Got charged $1000 a few years ago by SoftBank for data fees, when I used the wrong APN with Windows Mobile, even with an unlimited packet contract). Fingers crossed that ICS will surprise with function over form in the near future.

Respect and gratitude to the devs for their persistence and hard work.
[Desire HD General] lordcosisnus:
I don't thik ICS will be more performant than GB on a same device...
[Desire HD General] nooomoto:
After staring at Honeycomb for so long on my Xoom, I'm pleased as **** with ICS. I got in on a Motorola "soak test" for the release of AOSP ICS on the Xoom, I'm loving it.

What a lot of people fail to understand is that Honeycomb was always meant to be a beta test, as such it had a lot of issues. It was never supposed to be a full fledged OS which is why the kernel source was never released. It was a stepping stone to ICS. I'm happy to say the official version of ICS runs very fast and very smooth. I'm loving the colors and aesthetics of it.
[Desire HD General] :
It already is, compare gpu scores, nenamark 2 gb = 12-13fps ics = 23-24fps
[Desire HD General] Nunnsey:
I like ICS quite a lot, it's smooth, I don't need a task manager or anything like that to manage my apps and overall the aesthetics are a big improvement in my opinion. The camera is just too important to be missing from a ROM for me to keep it for daily use.
[Desire HD General] lordcosisnus:
That is a great news :)
[Desire HD General] PaulWilks:
I think that by the time ICS is actually available, I might have gotten bored of the design... not the functionality though.
[Desire HD General] PDub11:
I wont be touching ICS until CM9 comes out.
[Desire HD General] rb420:
I really like it. But, I find most roms unsuitable for daily use so far. Camera is a big one, some the audio don't work for me (virtuous quattro).

They are fun to play around with though. I cannot wait for a fully functional version for the Telus Desire HD
[Desire HD General] floepie:
The browser really rocks in ICS. It's WAY more smooth and responds instantly to the touch, unlike in previous Android versions, especially with the hardware acceleration, even if it is hacked. That, and the new "experimental" feature, where you touch your finger on the right or left edge, and it brings out a semi-circular icon menu surrounding your finger. For me, it's one of those things that ought to have been "discovered" way earlier.

I think all these beta versions of ICS floating around with their slight quirks are "coloring" people's opinion. The latest beta 9 of Virtuous is leaps and bounds more fluid than previous versions, and the browser is 98% there in terms of performance now.

I like the transitions, the 'recent apps' graphics, and the blues are growing on me. Visualizing the look of the various widgets in the app drawer is also a nice touch. But, the leaps in UI advancement from GB I just don't see. Where 4.0 really shines is its updated apps, i.e. GMail, Contacts, and Calender.
[Desire HD General] shiningarmor:
it's much more better compared to bloated sense and touchwiz crap

it's google, it's clean fast n bloat free
[Desire HD General] gpfnzl:
Ive tried VirtiousQuattro 4.0.3 nova launcher on my DHD and have a new Galaxy Nexus with OpenKangProject 4.0.3 & nova launcher installed.

Great = browser, customization options, phone dialer pad, like the blue color.

Hate = Gmail upgrade.

Gone back to DHD with Miui, it just feels better in the hand.

Put the nexus back in its box untill the official Miui ICS is released.
[Desire HD General] sibmon:
You must be crazy :P

I would give (nearly) everything for a Galaxy Nexus....
[Desire HD General] jnl1211:
Visually its cool. A lot of annoying bugs. Like the back arrow keeps going back to the app drawer instead of back a screen. May just be me.
[Desire HD General] krazycanuck82:
yep, what he said. coming from sense 3.5 and feel like i'm going backwards. no beats audio (yet) no ime mod keyboard with trace (very important to me) and quick setting tweaks from rcmix roms seems to be far superior. i do like the task manager in ics though. again, like he said, what am i missing here? seems over hyped
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Your not missing anything. There are some that like bare bones which ICS and some like feature packed which is Sense. I personally don't like it either. The important parts are under the hood and people will not notice them for the most part. Buy it will still be lacking until we can get an OEM base. This is mainly due to proper drivers. The AOSP drivers work but to be honest suck when compared to drivers built for the device.
[Desire HD General] Zulake:
I don't like the stock look of ICS, just as with the previous Androids. I really prefer a Sense interface overlapping it.
[Desire HD General] :
funny thing is, no one really has experienced ics properly, in terms of ui/camera/audio/ heck all of it, current system is a hack job (good to get a taste of ics but not run all the time like this)
[Desire HD General] tkolev:
Well, I like it a lot. Having a HC tablet made me appreciate the stock Android look and I even flashed CM7 on my DHD waiting for ICS. I'm now running VQ RC1 and apart from video recording, I don't miss anything (and I don't use it that much even when I had it working - it's just bugging me that it's not there yet). What people seem to fail to understand is that Google didn't release ICS to make Android more eye-candy. Sure, the look is changed (for the better IMHO), but the improvements "under the good" are what matters and they are a huge leap forward from where GB stands. HW acceleration, playback of network streams, wifi direct, extended APIs for NFC (just to name a few) will help developers make great apps (once the share of ICS grows enough to actually make sense developing for that platform). If you want Sense or MIUI (seriously?!?), you'll have to wait until those are released by HTC and whoever was sick enough to make that four letter abomination. You can't compare the vanilla interface with Sense and say that ICS is bad.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Well the four letter abomination is just CM coding stolen and slapped with a new launcher and then made closed source. I would just love to find a way to get the device built drivers to work on the AOSP roms. This is one of my only complaints, other then the way CM rewrote the coding so a few of my fav apps no longer work. But If I could get better drivers then I would happily use it. Ok well I would give it a try lol but until the drivers are redone then I just can afford the signal loss in BT and WIFI
[Desire HD General] jeffjoker:
I like many things of ICS:

new camera

new music

new look and feel

quick wifi activation

quick picture

folder management

But I hate some of the hidden/lost options:

operator's options

way to add widgets

complicated way to parameter haptic feedback

options with contacts

options with call history

different volumes maangement (ring, speaker, media...)

and a few things which are not ICS fault:

uncompatible apps

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[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by these drivers?

I have a Desire S (virtually same specs as DHD)

And mine performance much better or just as good in wireless signals.

If anything, my WiFi signal is much stronger on AOSP ROMs for some reason. Its a known issues about the Desire S and WiFI death grip (weal Wifi) that's one reason I like AOSP over sense.

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[Desire HD General] stefeda:
I like ICS specially grafic and speed but the HTC Sense is fantastic
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
People using ICS, which AOSP version is better overall, the virtuous one or the Lord Clockan's one
[Desire HD General] NorthLondonGunner:
in my opinion, virtuous. its fast and the virtuous tweaks are awesome
[Desire HD General] droid_krib:
I'm not complaining I think it cleaner and somewhat faster , have been running it even before the camera fix.

Still need to get better battery performance though.
[Desire HD General] winter-X:
I'm still waiting for a complete full working ICS to come out...
[Desire HD General] mailthev:
Having used it (virtuous quattro) for a couple of days, it's definitely more visually pleasing than the CM7 roms (which themselves were pretty damn good). Apart from that there is a stock t9 dialer and better contacts application, pretty impressive voice typing that Ive discovered already. There are still some bugs but for me they have gotten to the point of being used as a daily driver.
[Desire HD General] Psycotron:
I like ICS! I tried Virtuous quattro and it's amazing!

Enviado desde mi HTC Desire HD usando Tapatalk
[Desire HD General] monki79:
I've been running lord's ics rom for a while now and I totally love it. It smooth and fast. (1.0.beta3.7). Love the ui in ics. :D
[Desire HD General] -Alaa-:
in my opinion i find it like a fix between hc and gb its a nice ui could be better next time maybe or for android 5.0 perhaps?
[Desire HD General] kjfisher26:
LC ics rom

Been using lc's ics rom for a week'. its smooth and fast. The look and feel are better than GB roms. not had any issue with it apart from stock camera.
[Desire HD General] 4tifjaved:
It's to simple :/ there's nothing exciting about it ... I don't like things which are simple
[Desire HD General] aksandroid:
I have seen few videos and those look great. I would love to get this on my DHD. But I am a bit new to rooting and all. Just got root access yesterday and installed Rom manager ... not sure which build I can try.. Little worried as I have already screwed up a device ....... :)
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
when you shut down your phone and press POWER + Volume Down, if you get a screen saying 4EXT recovery or something then you're safe but if not, i would recommend you to flash ClockWorkMod image in order to get a permanent recovery so that if you're stuck in a bootloop you can recover back by choosing from various options.

If you know what you're doing and want to go forward flashing ICS then THIS is a good ICS rom although battery doesn't seem to be that good (3% a minute or two of nowifi use).

If you want to try other gingerbread roms, there's a huge variety. Oh and one more thing, you should give MIUI roms a try, if you like customizing a lot from icons to lockscreens then get MIUI rom...

Is it me or games run waaay faster and smoother on ICS (GTA3 specially) although battery sucks
[Desire HD General] deepnijjar:
@shad0wboss thanks for the info , i installed the rom and its good

but still missing HTC sense features and moreover camera is still buggy
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
I don't remember reading it where but i read that LG camera from market is a good replacement of the stock camera + the camera is running at 5mp and no camcoder for now, i mean it's an ok rom for now but needs a lot of work and shouldn't be for daily use until a more stable build is released unless you're a dev and want to do some mingling of your own in it.
[Desire HD General] deepnijjar:
@shad0wboss

yeah i tried LG camera, its better but not perfect

moreover video recording not working on it too

Also will try some other ics releases too like miui 4 ICS builds :confused:
[Desire HD General] MP2E:
I personally love ICS but I would like to see an AOSP port of Honeycomb ported to the Desire HD/Inspire :P I think I'd use it more than ICS itself.
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Why?

ICS is the upgrade from Honeycomb.

And honeycomb is well known for being a slow, laggy UI.

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[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
Who the heck is saying that he/she's not liking ICS. I don't give a banana if the camcoder isn't working at the moment. I'm never leaving ICS.

Have you tried scrolling around in the browser? That thing made my day and there's a huge improvement in 3D gaming specially. I don't see a reason why people would go back to GB from ICS...at least i'm not gonna do that.
[Desire HD General] brad808:
The only reason I went back to cm7 from ics is because of the amount of small tweaks and features that are available in cm7 vs ics. Things like the different lock screens, being able to access my messages from the ring lock screen, being able to change power notification widgets. Just stupid little things like that but after I used it for a day I noticed there were just too many things that weren't quite there for me to use it full time. I'm sure there are workarounds to all my problems but when cm7 already has all those features and easily accessible then I saw no reason to leave it yet. My phone performs awesome with cm7 latest kang and lords 8.5 kernel so I'm in no rush. I figure give it a few more weeks and ics will be miles ahead of where it is now.
[Desire HD General] tanjunjie9:
MIUI ICS is still kinda buggy, but i do find the aesthetic improvements worth the trade off.
[Desire HD General] _polimorph_:
Since miui ics v4 build 2.1.20 ported by proxuser I've seen many improvements, including smoother scrooling between homescreens, a camera with less bugs, but I'm also having some issues involving lag in dialer and in market. Also some browsers I've checked are unable to play videos (Dolphin, Opera, Stock). Is there someone that can help with these?
[Desire HD General] binYaqoob:
I had it on my dhd but uninstalled due to lack of sense + widgets, also it was a bit slow in scroll, It will be some time before a stable and smooth version comes out.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Those things will be fixed once CM gets them fixed.
[Desire HD General] fremce:
I dislike pure ICS look, but with sense 3.6, I love it :D

But it's better than stock look of Galaxy S II or Xperia Arc..
[Xoom General] azulgrana:
when will the official update from motorola\google will arrive?
[Xoom General] lucifergil:
Look behind you, it might be already there.
[Xoom General] azulgrana:
can you give me a date?

and I just read that there isn't an option to use the device as a disk drive, is it true?
[Xoom General] HooliganBG:
It will be pushed out on 11.01.2012 but this is very confidential information, please don't tell anybody!
[Xoom General] azulgrana:
can someone serious answer me please?
[Xoom General] double1:
Nobody knows. You'll just have to wait like the rest of us.
[Xoom General] iammodo:
No one knows.
[Xoom General] hchxoom:
You're in the wrong place, pal. If you really want an answer, you'll have to find a connection within Motorola... if they even have a hard date set. If you want to be taken seriously, take time to search and read before posting a question. You'd find dozens of threads on the topic in the xoom forums alone (unfortunately, since others choose not to searrch, too) and you'd quickly learn there is no answer to your question here.

You can have ICS on your xoom today if you want it, just not from Moto. Again, do some reading and research and you can determine whether available alternatives are right for you, or whether to wait for a not-yet-announced official update.

Nearly everyone here is helpful and will assist if you do your homework and still have questions... but you have to take yourself and your own questions seriously before you can expect anyone else to do so... or you can choose to be roasted.
[Xoom General] azulgrana:
first of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to write your answer.

I did searched(not in XDA, I searched on google) for the answer and found a lot of articles about the XOOM getting the ICS update but they all were very old so I thought that maybe Motorola released a date for the update and I didn't found an answer for that so I decided to ask here.