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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] derfasaurus:
Even the latest leaked baseband (supposedly for 4.0.3) for those of us that are rooted and modded is I515.09 V.EK06 / I515.EK04 Still not in the 10s.

He was either mistaken or there's some new radio out there that hasn't been released yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheSouljourner:
I have the exact same problem - crappy reception in places where other verizon folks have fine reception (and I don't mean bars... I mean, my phone is unusable and theirs is fine).

I also called Verizon, and he also said I should be on .10 and I am also on .09. Sounds like there's something new out there that they're not actually pushing down to us.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jackoutside:
Yep, I called again today, just to see - both tier 2 tech support guys told me I should be on .10, and I've also placed two calls to Samsung tech support and both times they also told me I should be on .10

Is anyone on .10, or as you've suggested, there is an update that hasn't been pushed yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HeathCliffR:
Me too -- Have rooted galaxy - spoke to verizon tuesday

When I called Verizon to complain about bad reception, they told me that it was supposed to be 10 - and suggested I go to a local verizon store to have them force the update.

But - the phone is rooted, so don't want to do that.

Anybody figure out how to get 1515.10 on the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Subscribed
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HeathCliffR:
Sorry - TEK112 - didn't understand your post

Sorry - TEK112 - didn't understand your post - did it relate to what I posted?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Not at all. I made a reply that says subscribed so that I would get updates when this thread changes. I am curious too about .10 upgrade.

Sorry for the confusion.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheSouljourner:
I went to the Verizon store before I read this thread, and asked about signal problems with my Galaxy Nexus.... they were clueless, I had to show them how to remove the battery... I highly doubt they have any way to upgrade your phone's baseband.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jackoutside:
Long story short, I got another GNX and this one came with baseband .10

So far, compared to my other GNX on the older baseband, I notice a better 3G - 4G hand-off, almost always one bar more of signal strength, and overall faster downloads and browsing - i noticed the snappier performance right away
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Can we get a screencap of your baseband?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tx3kgtman:
Got that from another site. Im still trying to figure out how to get on that version.

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wow on the phone with verizon and I can confirm they say the updated baseband version is the .10 and the update was pushed on dec 14th. He says all users should already have the update. Also said it improves data connection and hand offs. On hold with him right now maybe he can figure this out.

Update:: ok well the guy ended up shipping me out a new phone (lucky I called tonight before midnight because today was my last day on the worry free guarantee or else I would have received a refurbished phone. He said I should have recieved the update by now and maybe my phone was defective or there update servers didn't recognize that it needed the update. Ill let yall know if the new phone comes updated.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gergenhime:
Can confirm another gnex unrooted/locked still on 1515.09 here
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] androidrookie84:
Yea I got that too!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I got confirmation from tier two support that worry free guarantee returns are given back out as certified like new replacements. Due to the newness of the G-Nex, most of the replacements sent out are customer returns.

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Hmmmm... I wonder if because I am not stock (CNA 1.2.0) I cannot see it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
no i see it on my other phone with aokp b21

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ok just of a comparisons, unfortunately I cannot put both phones on at one time, since they did not give me another battery.

But my old phone with HW 10 had this at my desk:

-95 dbm - 4G

-93 dbm - 3g

And it was stable did not move or change much from what I can tell from just moving my phone around.

This model seems to be going from 2-3 bars of 4G and I see a fluctation of 4G:

I have seen it go anywhere from -88 to -105 (mostly staying around -101 to -105 and 2 bars of 4G)

While 3G is steady at -93

I have not lost 4G once though, and to be honest don't know what those numbers even mean if they change, as long as you can get a connection right?

Speedtests are roughly the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cwoggon:
Just got done visiting Verizon and I was successful in obtaining a .10 device. The first store that I visited only had devices manufactured in November 2011 (11.11 behind battery) so I decide to try another store and the area. This store had a device made in December of 2011 (11.12), but they will not turn on the device unless they are activating it so I took a gamble and sure enough I515.10. From registering the device I know that i was manufactured 12/21/2011 (7 days after the .10 revision was released). Also, as others have stated the device comes stock with 4.0.2.

Screenshots:

Fastboot -

About Phone -
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yeah you need stock to see.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cwoggon:
Well, after about 4 days of use on my .10 Nexus I think I'm going to have to agree with adrynalyne's earlier statement that .09 and .10 signal strength is pretty much identical. There is still a pretty good discrepancy between my the signal strengths of my OG Droid and GNex, but I'm fairly convinced that this is standard for any GNex running 4.0.2.

Regardless of the outcome of my little tests I am still quite happy to have a .10 device as the piece of mind is worth quite a lot. At this point I think I'm going to keep my GNex, but it is a shame if I were to recommend this device I would have to also let the person know that they may not be satisfied with the radio performance (perhaps one of the most important parts of the phone).

ICS still rules - if only my GNex would assimilate the 3G radio from my OG Droid...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Flash the leaked 4.0.4 radios... night and day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cwoggon:
Was really hoping the official release wouldn't be to far behind the leak so I've remained stock thus far...

I assume there is still no word on the official 4.0.4 release date?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
You can always revert to stock when the day finally comes. However, if you wish to wait for the push it looks like Samsung has the OTA slated for late February. Take it for what its worth because the first release was slated for mid January.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
If it makes you feel better, this is more official than 4.0.3 was. 4.0.4 is actually sitting on the public ota server.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] govindadas:
I'm now convinced of the hardware revision 'theory', thanks adrynalyne for doing the research. I'm on HW 09 (confirmed in fastboot and in settings > about phone).

My data signal can be a bit touchy, but only when in fringe areas or driving while talking on the phone. It seems to have gotten more stable over time though.

I'm not going to go through exchange hassle just to get a HW 10 unless I can see more research and confirmation that it is indeed better. I seem to get pretty fast speeds and good performance, so I don't wanna fix something that ain't broke!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mickmel:
To add my two cents...

I had a .09 phone with AWFUL reception. I kept it for a month, then finally exchanged it in hopes of getting a .10. I got another .09 instead (with identical version numbers all the way down) but it's doing MUCH better. With the first phone I couldn't get a cell in my house, 3G/4G handoff was awful, etc. The new one is superb.

There's perhaps something else at play for those with big time signal issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Agreed. I don't see a reason to push for a 10 device at this point.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gpzbc:
I would appreciate some advice.

So I had a totally unrelated problem with my GNex. The earpiece speaker broke. All I heard was static. Anyways, I asked them to warranty it and they did. I received a refurbished model with a HW 09 and a manufacturing date of 11.11, but a refurb date of 1/23/12. I got it all set up and have noticed the data connection is finnicky and my screen is purple at low brightness. Ugh.

So this morning I got up to find out that Verizon accidentally sent me another warranty phone. The second refurbished phone is HW 10 and has a manufacturing date of 11.12, but no refurb date stamp. This phone has an even worse purple tint at low brightness settings. I haven't tested the data connection because I don't want to activate it by putting my sim card in until I am sure I am going to keep it.

So I have two phones sitting here and I need to send one back. Based on what I described, which would you recommend keeping?

Thanks so much for your advice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Data is more important than a purplish tint at low brightness. However, the radios should clear up data while kernels can adjust color. Pop your sim in the other one and flip between the two until you are happy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gpzbc:
Thanks for the reply. I'll put the sim card in and play with it. I am assuming I can bypass all of the google account registration screens and just jump to the phone to play around in there? I don't really want to fully activate this second phone (link all of my apps and such to this second phone) until I have decided if it is one I want to keep.

But I should probably wait until Verizon's current 4G outage is over. I've noticed problems this morning.

I am actually tempted to send them both back and get another replacement. The purple tint is bothering me. But who knows what other problems I will get on another phone. Ugh.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Just set it to CDMA only and play around. You can do LTE tests later.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gpzbc:
Sounds good. Thanks for your help.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
K...so I did a bit of research. Thats not a newer baseband. Its a newer hardware revision (hence flashing different radios never changes the number).

Older hardware revision is 9, this is 10. So unless they actually improved the antennas inside the phone, its likely not going to make much difference. That said, WHO knows what they changed. You should also be able to see your hw revision under fastboot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
They are wrong.

Of course, there is a way to clear this up:

Someone with .10 go to fastboot and read the hw revision off the screen. I bet it says 10.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jackoutside:
I don't know what they did, but as I said in my earlier post, I am now consistently showing a stronger signal, getting better reception, and there is a much better handoff between 3G and 4G
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Robin M:
I just got my phone last week and it's an i515.10. HW rev 10 in fastboot. I can confirm that connectivity is fine in 3G. Can't comment on LTE because I've not yet been anywhere with it where 4G is available.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] intersysx:
I've got Hardware rev .09

Think I'll call VZW tomorrow and stir things up
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Thanks for the confirmation of what it says in fastboot :)

Now we need to go throw temper tantrums because they dropped a stealth hardware revision on us. Thats pretty sheisty if it indeed improves signal. Talk about shafting early buyers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Robin M:
Yep, that's nasty. I guess they figure that users will call if they have a problem and then they can deal with them one at a time. Folks who call VZW about this, please update thread with results. It'll be interesting to hear what they say.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Powell730:
Subscribed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] intersysx:
Called today - Tier 2 acknowledged the signal problem. Checked with his supervisor about new phone. Supervisor turned down request.

Signal with Nexus at home is -120 fluctuating to 100. Prior to Nexus I had an Incredible and signal on that was -93

More to follow
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
I just did an exchange becuase of screen issues I was having, and mine now says

I515.10 V.EK05 / I515.EK02

and if i go into fastboot it says HW revision 10

I also checked and says the phone was manufactured Jan 1, 2012 according to samsung site.

I do notice much better reception then previous phone, and getting superb 4G in my office (was not able to even hold a 4G before), but not sure if i just had a bad phone before or there is a new update. Also mine came with 4.0.2 out of the box
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NintendoSpy:
Were you out of your 14 day window? I am now but I am still going to Verizon considering I paid $300 for broken hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I walked into a Verizon store last night with the intentions of getting a second Gnex, and told the rep I didn't want anything but a rev 10 device. He didn't know how to check. He handed me the phone out of the box and sure enough, in fastboot the revision was 10.

I had heard a rumor that the revision changed according to when it was first activated. Clearly that is not true as I never even booted up the first time.

I think most phones going forward are hw rev 10 now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
I called up corporate support and I was within the 14 day window, not by much maybe 4 days.

But they did not just ship me the phone, I had to go through all these prompts and agree to a new service, and my contract date was now pushed up by about 2 weeks. He said we have to do that since already exchanged the phone once before. I guess not a big deal, and I also have to return the old phone ASAP or they will charge me full price for it. I never had to do an exchange over phone so not sure if that is normal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Well, it would have helped if you knew what you were asking for.

There is no such thing as a .09 or .10 baseband.

They are hardware revisions. The baseband is the same for both devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
Right since baseband is the radio correct? And both .09 and .10 are using same radio version out of the box. That is if i understand all these correctly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
How were you able to verify that? Everyone has been asking Verizon and Samsung and no one can seem to get a definitive on whether .09 and .10 are hardware revisions or firmware revisions. In fact, one user reported having a .10 device and after flashing God knows what his phone reported that he was on .09.

The whole thing is very curious.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yes, that is correct. The baseband versions are completely separate. The best place is to check from fastboot because it is broken down into separate areas there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
When you check fastboot, it lists the hardware revision. I also checked with a Verizon tester that had the device through several hardware revisions, and it acted/showed the same change under about phone each time. The hw rev. gets appended to the beginning of the baseband versions. This device went through a couple of hw revisions before release.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] billin30:
Bought my nexus on day 1 and I have 09. I flashed the leaked radios a while back and I am still 09. I've seems threads like this all over and would like some definitive answers from Samsung or Verizon. Not cool having old hardware that just came out!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
Yep I see what you mean I just went into the bootloader and here what it says for others who are curious:

PRODUCT NAME - tuna

VARIANT - toro

HW VERSION - 10

BOOTLOADER VERSION - PRIMEKK15

BASEBAND VERSION - I515.EK02 CDMA - I515.EK05

Just curious and since I do not know, BASEBAND and CDMA are both radios correct? What is difference since verizon phones can only use CDMA right? We technically only use CDMA? Or am i missing something.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Baseband encompasses all radios, afaik.

We have two firmware versions:

One for the CDMA radio (voice, 1x, 3g), and one for the LTE radio (which happens to be a GSM technology).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NintendoSpy:
Sounds like a lot of work, I got my Nexus December 15th so I wonder if will go as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Well anyone who got their phone on release day or, up until Dec 28th got a 30 day return period. So technically the majority of us are not that far out of warranty. 10 days at most.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NintendoSpy:
Ah that's good, the signal issues are almost unbearable. I've got zero bars right in the middle of Richmond which is a full 4g area.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rsxtypes72:
So people with hw9 like myself we get screwed for being early adopters? Verizon is screwing us over. Clearly the early GN were not up to par and they know. This feels like a class action suit. I paid my money for a functioning lte GN not a broken GN.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Well, we still don't know what was changed.

Maybe they moved a sticker ;)

Newer hw rev. doesn't always mean better for everyone.

Sometimes hw rev. = locking something down.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rsxtypes72:
Do people with the newer hw 10 have issues with lte dropping constantly?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
My (last) phone is rev 09. If my replacement tomorrow is 10, I will let you know. I really doubt the change is related to LTE, or antenna though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
So I take it since this is all hardware, no matter what I flash on the phone, or even flash to go back to stock it is still going to be HW 10?

I was not sure if i had to do something different. I don't think I have to but figured I ask.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
It should be HW version 10 no matter what you do.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
adrynalyne,

just curious have you tested the speakerphone since getting the new one with HW 10?

It could be I just had a bum phone before, but my speakerphone sounds so much better and louder. Before I could barely hear the person, here I have to lower my volume because too loud.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I haven't received my replacement yet. Plus, I don't know if it will be rev. 10 :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Powell730:
I hope you have better luck than me. I just got my replacement on Friday and it was .09...

Just curious why did you need to replace your phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Idiocy on the end of Best Buy. I lost 3G last Friday, and asked them to give me a new sim. They said no; that the sim had nothing to do with it. Hence, they replaced my phone(takes 2-5 days).

Note the thread in the general forum of another guy with the same issue--sim fixed it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
agh ok, for some reason i thought you got it already, maybe I misunderstood.

I might have just had a really bad phone more then likely. I doubt HW 10 changed speakerphone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I don't think we will ever know unless someone does a teardown and compares.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamersipaq:
...

adrynalyne,

I was trying not to sound like I know too much... this why I asked the way I did and included just the first part of it: 1515.10 V.EK05... Sometimes if you sound like you know too much they spook easy :D

But my point still stands. She had no idea what I was talking about....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Oh I hear ya. The Verizon rep I had yesterday didn't know how to check the hw rev. The Best Buy rep felt the sim card was only for LTE and nothing else.

We are surrounded by morons.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamersipaq:
Not sure what to do

I'm not sure what to do now. Do I go in there and politely demand from a manager that I walk away with a .10 phone, or do I go the rezound way? There's already a ton of roms for it including Sense, AOSP, and even MIUI is being worked on since the bootloader was unlocked.

I really like this phone, but Samsung or VZW (not sure who) are really starting to piss me off.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
This is what I would do if its important (not saying it shouldnt be) to you:

Bring your device back to stock.

Re-lock it.

Go into a Verizon store and talk with a manager and show him/her:

Your hw version in fastboot (hence we want it locked).

Have him/her open a couple of boxes of new Nexii's and do the same thing. One is BOUND to be hw version 10. It is important this not be an activated device (so the date activated excuse is null) and not upgraded (so the software/radio version excuse is null). When I checked last night, the first box the rep grabbed was rev 10. Explain politely that you feel you have been cheated by Samsung updating hardware after release, and then give a list of problems you have. If you can, take pictures of both hw versions in case you need to escalate it to corp over the phone. I would also note that that you have called Verizon support and they said you SHOULD have rev 10 (which is shown by the baseband as well).

A reasonable manager is going to at least consider helping you out. Maybe if nothing else, they can find out the real deal behind the differences.

Note: Its easy for me to type this scenario, but the reality is I would probably be in there yelling and screaming. I have a hard time being civil when I am upset :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamersipaq:
yeah

Actually, it really matters.

I don't know how others are, but this is my 2nd nexus. First had a boatload of GPS issues.

Got this one, and sometimes when it switches from WiFi to 4G, I never get blue it stays on grey and I can't go to any website in the browser. I have to make a call and end it to get it to activate... grr!

4g and 3g take a redonkulous amount of time to switch between themselves, and on top of it I STILL get that stupid microphone issue even after udpating to 4.0.2. Talking to the wife and bam... a minute later I'm being yelled at b/c it's become a one way conversation.

Ironically, I don't have to unroot and relock. Since I was paranoid about this one being a bust... only got it two weeks ago (though it was a replacement or the original I bought back on DAY ONE!!!) I left it completely stock.

This may be my last samsung phone. I LOVE the design and the openness, but HATE the QC.

/rant
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] intersysx:
I did just that today. They were willing to swap out the phone but they said they would not open the box for me nor would they turn it on. I would have to accept whatever was in the box. So I kept my current phone rather than risk just getting another .9 phone. They also kept insisting there was no such thing as a newer hardware revision. They even called Samsung and Samsung told them there is no newer revision of the phone, even though it is on Samsung's website. So this whole situation is very mysterious. I can't help but wonder why there are untruths being given out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
out of curiosity where on samsung site is that?

I am still not even convinced the HW 10 version I have makes a big difference, I might have just had a really bad phone. That is the problem so hard to compare.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Someone take a picture of their fastboot on 09 showing the hw version? If I get a 10 today (somewhat unlikely) I will return the same favor. This will help others push the case I feel.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
If not I can try and take a pic tonight when I get home, I can use my old fascinate to do it I think.

Only thing is mine will show it unlocked and not sure if that good to show to verizon since they might say that person unlocked phone and will say that why it .10

Worst thing if you do not get .10 I will relock my phone, I need to wipe it anyway when I go to a new rom and have not done that yet.

If some are curious I might have posted not sure, I went to samsung support site and registered my device and it showed it was manufactured Jan 1 2012.

So I am guessing if you get one after Jan should be HW 10?