yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] sdotmouse:
Downloading without registering was something that became allowed a while ago (part of op I.F. when it started). It made a difference for a while, but seems people still like

joining in and feeling like they are part of something instead of just lurking.

Sent from a phone with an app.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Oh my god......why is your forum like this ? That is bad.....

Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Indirect:
Because its a cheap tablet. That's why I bought the evo view as my dailytablet because I got tired of not having this done as a hobby. I'm now a casual developer for the view and a serious Dev for nook tablet. However, until you put up with **** like that, no *****ing allowed. :-)

Sent aboard the Evo Express
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jusada:
Its not a case of *****ing, its a case of abuse of devs. It shouldn't happen in this forum or any other. The simple fact is if modderators can't control there site maybe devs should pull there support. Its what I've done and I would advise you to do the same. I would also advise anyone experiencing the kind of abuse you have to pull the download links. Harsh I know, but we have a right to control are work, we have a right to be spoken to as humanbeings. Not gods or anything special, but humanbeings. Speak to us as you wish to be spoken to. There are ways for us to share are work with others who wellcome are efforts and never need post here.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ZN6:
yeah, idiot people this day does not show any respect to dev :mad:

they should respect and be patient

google is the only best friend for search

BTW how to solve problem for noob person asking repeat noob question?:confused:

_________________

hit thank button if i help u

The only rule of Cyanogenmod: You dont ask for ETAs:D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] djsky2011:
When I was a noob I used to read through the threads carefully before I posted the problem is most of the these noobs doesn't wanna read
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] sdotmouse:
And they don't get that they're basically alpha/beta testers. They seem to expect an OEM style/quality rom that is absolutuly flawless, and set up specifically for their usage for the wonderful price of free. Then they whine and cry and ***** when they realize they are getting what they're given and isn't exactly to their specifications.

Sent from a phone with an app.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ryant22:
It seems to me it's not noobs. Noobs can read y'know. It's those that are too lazy to do a little bit of research into the subject.

Example: I'm new to the Ace section of the forums, i hung around the x10 mini section of the forums. Yes a few of the regulars will see me as a noob, but because i did a bit of research and asked a few questions before i even had the Ace in my hand. Which resulted in the phone being opened > turned on > and rooted.

People shouldn't be relying on other people to do their legwork.

You want it working? Try fixing it yourself or at least positivly contribute to getting it fixed rather than whining about it

:p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
The main thing for this is...People dont search before posting :(

Recently,I saw a thread in Ace genereal forums asking "What Cf-Root is" -_-

Seriously,these guys need to use Google........While i am talking about all this...I am starting to think about doctorace92..lol..I am sure that nims11,emoboiix3 and jusada still remember that bragger

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Btw...I think we need to ask MikeChannon to give us an extra mod???If i remember right,Zecanilis is acting as a moderator for 4 or 5 devices already..and to control some of these so-called noobs,we need another mod..

No-offense to any mod or admin..I was just suggesting something..If you guys feel that it is offensive or anything like that,then i will happily edit my post :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
i say always ' Google is your best friend '

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[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] evil_penguin:
people still don't understand :( ,only people like we keep on saying use search button every time still situation is same ..this is ridiculous .. pathetic:mad:

when i got my first android phone (galaxy ace ) i never asked any questions :( if may be i did very less ....developer do so much hardwork still NO respect ..

some time i feel very angry

you can see jusada's thread "ice cream sunday " jasuda has mentioned in his first post it doesn't contain file manager,torch ,wallpapers. Still people continue asking .

now it is happening for nims11:(

I hope these noobs stops acting foolishness ...

IF any NOOB is reading this then read this [actually they never read :(]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Jar3112:
You're right guys. I'm starting to get tired too of people arguing and complaining about problems (explained 2 posts before) and flaming without reason. Let's open the door to the "good" noobs!

Sent from my Galaxy Ace on Ice Cream Sunday Final
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Unfortunately,finding a good noob is like finding a needle in a haystack
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Jar3112:
Yes, but you can "breed" them by giving them good advice! Too often people ask the same questions, we know, but it is true indeed that someone who really deserve some help is ignored because of the stupid questions of other ones. So, in my opinion, more answers and less complaining!

Sent from my Galaxy Ace on Ice Cream Sunday Final
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
I want to say this to all developers stop the work for now and lets go on a STRIKE :p

So they now what they had done

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[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Jar3112:
I don't think this would be understood..

Sent from my Galaxy Ace on Ice Cream Sunday Final
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] koontzy65:
Well... first of all as you can see, i'm a noob, but i still want to give my 2 cents here...

Mod shoudlnt tolerate sooo much newb like this, this is killing the forum, because dev are gonna leave (like jusada here), this is gonna kill the dev of new rom and older rom

you need more strict forum rules, like a new subsection called something like "newb forum, post here 20 times before you can post anywhere else"

also the dev section shouldnt be allowed before you reach like 20 or 30 posts, so you can learn from the newb forum

also put like 3 or 4 mod in the newb section who are dedicated to help each other and newb are gonna take experience, knowledge and post by helping each other

on the other hand, you cant ban all the nub, because you need them (yeah you read right), because they made the "scene" grow larger, and give more attention to the dev, to the phone, and to everything related.. you need them to test apps, various factors on the phone, coming from everywhere around the world with different specification on the phone (just me, i have different baseband)

(and also, a lill % of those nub are gonna be the future dev here who can give LOT to this forum) ;)

Please guys, dont flame me, its just my humble opinion :P

*edit : sorry for my bad english and I want to say a Big Big Thank you to the dev here, who doing a $"$%"# great work, please, continue like this !!!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] MrChaosDesire:
I'm just seeing this everyday. Have been keeping quiet and noticed it too but... Not much we can do about them.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] torchwolfery:
here here. but 2 things.. First your english was fine... second i would really stop allowing people who arent devs or at least have some special permissions from the devs to post in dev forum. this would have two actions first it would force the noobs to search though the pages. and secondly it would weed out all the idots who keep asking the same questions or just making demands by seeing them in the general forum... after a period of time member could be allowed to post in devs forum once they have reached a target or been invited by a dev or mod.

Again though this requires that devs and mods to really monitor the threads in the general forum..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Ok...but we devs are not your slaves...I think you should understand that...I have had enough of all these whining that i am thinking of stopping development of my upcoming meizu and IoS roms now...I am sick of this..True that everybody are not *****es but some people really are..:(

What are you guys gonna do if we devs go on a strike like robinandroid said...everybody needs the developers to answer,they don't want the answers of an experienced user...People should learn to use Google..I help each and every guy who needs help here,but some times......it starts becoming irritating.

But.......Because there are still SOME good members here,and thinking of them,i will develop for the ace,I don't care about some of these members who ruin XDA....

Btw,Expect a meizu themed rom coming soon for the again ;)

Yes,i support jusada as there really isn't any point in cooking custom roms for the ace anymore.....Nowadays,sometimes,the only thing we get is whining and complaining...Hope this wont happen in the future and this is why i will start cooking for sga
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Sadly,yes..:(
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
I'm sticking more to the Galaxy R forums because they have less noobs , hell even the noobs are posting stuff like what I post in this place

Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Lol....Sadly,I don't have any other phone :( and the sga was my first Android :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Well , the R's not mine , it's my sister's .

Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ohwarumbloss:
so what ?

Galaxy Ace was cheap from the start but now its...extreme cheap, it has been X-Mas, many people popped up after that, got their brandnew cheap phone and want it to be tuned by great Developers here...

The Intention isn't to bad I think...

1. It would help if Roms where already running before they are published. The problem with the Fonts in Nimms11 7.2 and 7.1 Infinity Roms was excisting weeks or maybe months ago, so why bringing it up and leave the people alone with white Fonts on white background ?!

REMEMBER, even for people who are developing here, there was a very first Error on their very first Android phone forced them to get help the very first time...

Not everyone is experienced enough to use "search engines" successfully the very first time...

And a "Developer" who says he spend much hard work on his Rom and he is happy with it confuses me (newb) and other newbs as well, because why is a Developer happy with white on white ???

1a. Did you ever think about the fact that not everybody had the advance of a good school or learning different languages or is born with a android toolbox in his brain ? I met people in real life (yes, I have one) who told me Android sux because the missing Apps they know from their iPhone...of course, Android sometimes wants Users to USE their brain, or Searchengines...

2. Don't let all bleed for mistakes of a few ! Of course their are people here and there who make me...but why flaming and stating here ? 95% of the people doing this in Forums wouldnt even look others in the eyes while talking, so what ?

3. There is a red cross in the left corner of Mozilla Firefox...If you feel like leaving : Press it.

4. Still there are some nice people here, I'll focus on them, that's why I write here, unasked.

Greetings.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
I dont think you need a special lesson to google something..There isnt any "Search Engineering" where it teaches you algorithms..

Myself...I learnt whatever i have did on my own..I am 14..My school still teaches us how to use paint :rolleyes:

You dont need to know any programming languages for cooking custom roms...I know a bit of C and really really small bit of XML..I learnt all that on my own..Nobody taught me how to use a search engine to do all that..You just need to know a single language 'ENGLISH' and have an internet connection..btw,those people who you say that,they said 'Android Sux' are apple fanboys :p

Anyway,I dont want to argue anybody or anything like that
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] adeklipse:
Because ROMs are not made by money. They are produced by people who are willing to sacrifice their time and effort to bring you what they've got. Most (if not all) Android custom ROMs are not paid software. You're not paying anyone anything, and hence the developers and authors of said ROMs don't owe you anything either.

Yes, and as the more experienced users, we should be more patient with noobs. I have no problem with noobs asking stupid questions because I was in their position once. But some senior members aren't as patient as me, and tend to think that the level of knowledge between users are the same.

The same reason I wear pink shirts to man parties: because I am. You can't force a dev--- actually, you can't force anyone to be or not be happy for something. If nims is satisfied with white-on-white, then so be it. Not everyone likes beef, some like chicken, too.

Plus, modding the framework to be transparent is extremely time consuming. It's not simply an action of pulling out a few files and opening photoshop, then apply transparent filters on them. If it were, I'd be developing ROMs, too.

I do. I, too, was born and raised in a not-so-wealthy family. My mother and father worked as janitors while chasing their Doctorate degree. Because of this lack of parental attention, I'm not so intelligent. Thankfully, my parents are now one of the most respected lecturers in the country, and on their way to becoming professors, but that's a bit irrelevant.

I can tolerate people asking stupid questions like "Where is the settings menu?" and I try to adjust to people whose first language isn't English (like me). What I don't tolerate are ignorant noobs who don't know how much work is put in to making, modding and developing for Android.

"Oh, there is no free texting feature on this ebook reader! FIX THIS NAO OR I WILL RATE 1 STAR." IDGASF, dude.

Seriously, people who think like that should just go with iPhones.

Attitude, people, please.

Sorry, I don't know what you just said there. :(

Couldn't agree more.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Oh....I forgot,who,what,how a noob is does not matter...:)

The thing that matters is,You just need to have the passion :D

I was a noob too,I admit that and I asked for help too..I never said that i wasnt one

Usually,I only sign up to forums when i have problems..But xda was never like that for me..I signed up here,and this forums made my life change..Before,I was a kid who did know something about windows...I was always a tech-savvy guy..but xda made me Hyper-Tech-Savvy guy..lol

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+1..You just gave him his answers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
Ive learnd also everything by my own xml editing etc

Rom making

Ive got a big brother of 19 who uses my account to post things like screenshots and nothing else

And i am develeoping and i am also 14 but why do you meed to hate and bug everyone let them be a humabeeing

And sinds i use xda i am addicted to it i chec every day the xda site /app

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TheSeriousMOD V1

for galaxy ace

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TheSeriousMOD V1

for galaxy gio

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made by Robinandroid

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Current state/rom: stock
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Everyday???I check it whenever i am free :p:p:p (i.e.every minute maybe)

(Atleast i think so ;) )
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ohwarumbloss:
To what Questions ?

I am not one of those who asked those things that made this all start lol I usually find my answers by myself. Of course we don't pay for the Roms here and of course I am thankfull (really !!!) for the Devs work. Pointing at the Fonts was just because I got a Rom to test in October or November and it had those Probs already...

Devs owe me/us nothing but a little patience when we can't get solutions for the bugs they provided (obviously tolerated) please, serious, white on white...

Yes.

I just can't get angry about people calling me Idiot here because I am 95% sure they wouldn't do it on the street ;-)

Yes, there is because you can not expect all the people out there to be as smart as you are and, FFS (!) you have to tolerate that.

I have 3 Kids and (once again FFS) I see them learning AND (FFS) they DO ASK questions and MAKE mistakes. Have you ever seen someone trying to find out how to pair a controller and a X-Box without ever asked google before ? It's fun, it's human and in the end, there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers !

The Troll that trolled a thread in here maybe doesnt troll anywhere again because he learned it ? And BANG, the Forumworld got a little bit nicer :-)

Oh, one last thing, I always got my things running without offending a Dev I think, thanks to this Forums and some real nice guys. Special nice Guy : Jusada :D

Greetings
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
Me too

Its become a part of my live because here we can do big things and change the world with our modded aces

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TheSeriousMOD V1

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TheSeriousMOD V1

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made by Robinandroid

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Current state/rom: stock
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] adeklipse:
Nope. They owe you absolutely nothing. If there's a bug in an opensource application (for example), you either fix it, ignore it, or don't use the app at all (oh, and reporting bugs=contributing to fixing it).

What you should say when encountering a bug,

"O hai, Mister Lovely. I was just checking out your fabulous piece of software the other day and stumbled upon a minor obstacle. Every time I input a mouse action, the program would send the "rm -rf /*" command. Just wanted to say that. KTHXBAI"

Not

"OMG, U STOOPID DEV TEH THING WILL AUTO CLOSE ITSELF IF I PRESS TEH EXIT BUTTEN! FIX NAO OR GO TO HELL."

I know you (owarumbloss) aren't the kind of person as mentioned in the latter example, and they are clearly hyperbolic. But, as a Linux developer (not necessarily programs and apps, but more generic stuff like tweaks and themes), we take responses quite to the heart, and those are quite accurate descriptions of how I would depict comments on my work.

:)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Jar3112:
What i meant with "more answers" was that even non dev users should help the newbs. I try to do it every time i can, because I would have really appreciated it from users when i had just started learning. For example, zeppelinrox in his thread (just an example) gives lots of supper to everyone, just for the purpose of helping other people understand better android world!

Sent from my Galaxy Ace on Ice Cream Sunday Final
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Knurlhelm:
That's the point... they make a rom, give it free and some users just ask or bully them and that's kinda dumm... but it's the usual stuff, a % of the users always are whining and it is like it is... the best thing we all can do it's ignore them and try to contribute to the community

:P
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] christophicer:
I'm rather new to the community, but from what I've seen in the last week or so is pretty brutal. Nims and jusada and emo and slaid so on all do this because they want to improve everyone's experiance on the SGA and I believe that they're doing an unbelievable job. I can't wait for ICS to be out like everyone else but these people are doing it on there own time for no pay. Be thankful we have such a wonderful set of developers that spend so much or they're time to make awesome roms and scripts.

My 2 cents. Thank you all for making my ace experience so damn awesome, keep up the good work guys!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jusada:
I would make a point here, I have purposfully avoided the term noods. The reason being I don't beleave its noods alone, or that all new members are incapable. The issue is for me not just questions, my problem is questions answered in op, or abuse and demands. I have over 1400 posts in my icsunday thread. I DO NOT EXPECT PEOPLE TO READ THEM ALL! But like I've pointed out, people need to remember we aren't employed by them, we have no odligation to do things for them. But we do have a right to be spoken to in a polite manner. I personally ask for no donations or reinbursement for what I do. You don't need to respect me, but please respect that. . . But atleast I'm out of it. Its devs who can't afford new phones I feel for. Nims11, prawesome and emoboiiix I have worked with in the past and will continue to work with. I very much hope to work with them for a long time to come, to the point that when these guys buy new phones I will also consider buying the same device to continue working with them. If I show this much respect for these guys, the question I ask is why do some think they don't need to? And the majority of the time these people have done nothing in this forum. That's why any work on the ace I do will be relised to team cooper and them alone, after that its there choice if it gets realesed.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] kchannel9:
I just came in this thread to say I am an intelligent, respectful noob, and I appreciate this forum and all the developers who share so much. Thank you all!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
I was thinking to buy one of the phones that Samsung's gonna announce on CES 2012

Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.