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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] The Jack of Clubs:
im actually at 1.9gb as of today. and i was actually thinking that. i almost never hit 2 or even 3gb in a month. id be pissed if i was paying for 3gb and got throttled before then.

do they only throttle users with unlimited plans? is that why i am in the top 5%?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] drpal181:
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it must be a bobcat? If I sign for a unlimited plan to u se it for unlimited data am I in the wrong? I have been using unlimited data long before there was a iphone or a smartphone was mainstream. Even tethering was free and unknown at the time. Phones have come a long way from using only a few mbs a months to 1 or 2gb as the norm. It is not because of data hogs that att drop thier plans. It was because they blamed the congested lines for drop calls on the iphone before they found out it sucks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] E_man5112:
I completely agree. I'm not sure I'm a data hog. I use 2-5gb a data a month. More than average, but not huge. Still, I pay for it. I haven't gotten throttled yet, but the day I get the message is the day I leave.

I know you are trying to just say something and leave so you don't have to defend your point. It's rather immature. Hopefully you rescind that. As to the above point. I don't expect AT&T to give me anything I don't pay for. HOWEVER, I do believe they owe me what they sell me. Nothing more. If they throttle me, or any other person who is within their limit, it's reasonable to be angry.

Are you a netflix subscriber? Imagine if tomorrow, netflix sent you an email and said you watched too many movies per month on your unlimited streaming plan. You are now limited to 1 movie a week. Would you accept that? No, you paid for unlimited, and they should give it to you.

I'm sorry, but most of your post was quite bad and poorly supported. I'm quite sick of people who are perfectly fine with AT&T lying and cheating, as long as it helps them. Reminds me of the RIAA. Let's pass laws that are unjust, because it helps us. That's a good idea...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
I hate these rules too, but after all we did sign a contract. Idk if anyone has literally read it but it may say something like att can throttle you if using a lot of data or can add slowness.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] HarmonyFlame:
First off, why would you leave just because you get a notification that:

A. Doesn't mean you are ACTUALLY going to be throttled and B. Means your either leaving to another carrier that is going to throttle you, or doesn't have "unlimited"?

Secondly at&t never stated they are not going to allow you to have data. All that is being said is that they MAY reduce your data speeds. So your analogy to Netflix is null.

I have personally went months using upwards of 22gbs a month on hspa+ (I kid you not). Am I a heavy user? Yes. Do I deserve throttling? Yes. Do I complain about it? No. Do I wish it was really unlimited?? Of course. But its not, and honestly it was never was really advertised as such even before it was gone.

You do know a contract/service agreement goes both ways right? At&t has the right to terminate your service OR alternate your service based on the terms of the agreement (in this case for data I believe the agreement states 5gbs they reserve the right to throttle. This was even in the agreement far prior to grandfathering the plans).

How people fail to comprehend this is beyond me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bigmout:
Yet another poster trying to put words in my mouth. I'm not saying AT&T's intent is to make things faster for the rest of us. I'm saying most users benefit when AT&T cracks down on the tiny minority of users hogging the limited bandwidth available.

Then you're a free-rider like people who litter.

Why not? Leaving aside whether your contract permits throttling (which I suspect it does) why shouldn't AT&T be allowed to throttle a tiny minority of users who use more than their fair share of a limited resource like bandwidth?

No, it's like when you get a driver's license allowing you to drive as much as you want as long as you don't abuse a shared resource like the roads.

Then why don't you sue? Class-action lawyers are always on the lookout for profitable lawsuits. If the case were as open-and-shut as you suggest, they would have sued AT&T into submission years ago.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
Have you tried to call them to see if this is an error? I cannot believe that 1.7 GB in a billing cycle would put you in the top 5% of an area as large as Houston. Did you watch netflix anything for a lot of data in a short period of time? I have heard that streaming a GB or 2 in a short perio of time can trigger the message also?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] boxerlover02:
You strike me as the type that also agrees with the the government to eviscerate the bill of rights and constitution all in the name of false "security" from the boogie man al-cia-da I mean al-quadea. I bet you love your government and the fact that giant corporations like at&t get away with anything they want and answer to no one. I said my piece on this and that's my opinion and for the time being I'm entitled to it. You have a good day now sir. And I'm sure there will be a lot of people that will have something to say about this post so let the flaming begin
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] The Jack of Clubs:
nope. i used data pretty consistently. theyre not going to say they made a mistake either. they are like politicians, they are afraid to say anything wrong that can be used against them so theyll give hours of rhetoric and continue on course.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
I guess I do rescind what I said and will reply to your comments on my post. ATT does not owe you anything...Which part of they have not stopped your data downloads is not registering? I understand you do not like it, and neither would I if they did it to me. But you can LEAVE. The problem is that no one is going to give you what you are asking for and you know that. Why, because it not economically viable. ATT has every right to protect their business model. Just because you do not like it does not make it wrong or illegal. No one can say ATT never said they could not or would not restrict the SPEED at which you data is delivered, because they have never said that. A cell phone is just that a cell phone, and not a necessity for life for goodness sakes.

I do have netflix streaming option and if they did what you describe, I would simply quit my membership...it really is that simple. My post is very much supported with facts. You have not one fact other than wanting something that was never agreed to.

You obviously do not own a business. In all business, there are always customers that cost more than they are worth to the business. Most business reserve the right to refuse service or change terms for any customer. I do not remember when ATT started my unlimited data plan for $30 a month. It has been several years. How many other things have you purchased for the same cost as 3 or 4 years ago? I am now on the LTE network with my skyrocket and still pay $30 a month despite the billions ATT has invested to deploy this LTE network. ATT could have simply said No unlimited data plans for LTE service, but they did not. I have used up to 2.5 GB (much more, but I have wifi everywhere it seems) on LTE and I have never heard anything from ATT.

Having said all of this, I am on record in many threads saying I think they should increase the amount of data before throttling anyone to 10-15 GB and then restrict speeds to HSPA not EDGE if they must throttle at all.

It is not really my intent to defend ATT actions, as I am just a customer like anyone else. I guess some people are just not happy unless they are tearing down a person or company to make themselves feel better I guess.

I originally came to this thread to make comments and view perspectives of the ATT GNote. I have a unlocked international Gnote which I love and enjoy and wanted to share my experiences with others. I just want to do that without every other thread which involves ATT devolving into a debate about how ATT lied and cheated everyone out of their unlimited data plan by throttling...give it a rest, we get it...last I heard, Verizon, Sprint, T mobile and many regional carriers would be glad to sell you a contract...

Can we get back to talking about the Galaxy Note on ATT?

sorry for log winded reply... peace everyone!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
Excellent point and I agree in both aspects: no throttling to EDGE along with increased limits before throttling. This top 5% is b.s. At least T-mo tells you when they start throttling off the bat. Also, my tax return will suck it looks like. Unless I get a new job that pays me a crap-ton more than now, I'll more than likely be getting an AT&T branded one.

Sent from Steve Jobs' iPhone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] The Jack of Clubs:
I agree that if its called unlimited it should probably be unlimited. But I know that's not possible because of people that use too much data. And I know something may need to be done about over use. But I don't think that they should claim blindly that everyone in he top 5% of any area should just be throttled. Its not my job to come up with a solution. I pay for unlimited data and if that's not feasible its up to ATT to come up with a solution that makes us BOTH happy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] boxerlover02:
I agree lets get back to the topic at hand and that's the release of the device and when at&t will announce the release date because I really want it but cannot afford the international version, wish I could but its not affordable at the moment to spend over 700 on it. I wish they would just give us some kind of date so I know when I could put this crappy dell streak to rest and never use it again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] HarmonyFlame:
Yeah I'm really itching for a release date.

Lets start speculating shall we? I'm willing to bet they will announce a release date by this Sunday.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
+ 1 on lets get back on topic. I disagree with u on the Dell Streak running DSC rom and my streak is working great that I can be patient on upgrading to the note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reinbeau:
I heard it was going to be released on February 14th.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
Second that. Hopefully sooner.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
The only problem with Feb. 14 date is that it is Tuesday. Most AT&T phones are released on Sundays.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] HarmonyFlame:
Yeah that was the date that was on the display of the press release shot on the phone. Which is a probably a good indicator since they have done that in the past. But I'm thinking they will let us know the date officially this week.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
If they dont, ill be so mad lol. I want it already.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
Since it has officially cleared the FCC, I'll bet the release date is February 12th or 19th as they most often use a Sunday. The sooner the better as I would love to see the accessories they launch with it as well as soon thereafter!

Also looking forward to the battery life reports on LTE.

Check this out! Very cool!

http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s624273
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] The Jack of Clubs:
i dont buy that. most of the phones ive bought were not out on a sunday.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dalamchops:
AT&T phones almost always comes out on sunday
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] emcnelly:
Hope they give us a date this week too! But I'll update the OP the second there is any additional info on the actual release date. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ericshmerick:
Ok so the 12 or 19th. Or just get the international Note today! :-)

Better yet you can count on a March/April release knowing how US cell corporations work!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] emcnelly:
If only all of us had that much money to throw at it. :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
Or parents who would understand how cruel the us carriers are, and how unlocked is always better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Reynaldinho111:
:p

+1

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] emcnelly:
Haha yeah no kidding! That would be nice! More like an American population that understood that concept. More expensive phone but cheaper service. But as long as our service is as expensive as it is, might as well take advantage of subsidized phones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] upNsmokeAllDay:
Is it sad that I'm still happy with my cappy? This would be a nice upgrade for sure but i need a phone that has the 4 capacitive buttons like the captivate.

Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy S Captivate running Saurom Projekt Rom using XDA Premium.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
Hmm, Captivate has 4 capacitive buttons, not physical buttons, just like AT&T version of Note will have.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] upNsmokeAllDay:
That is what i meant heh my bad.

Just found this and i see the capacitive buttons. So psyched for this. Also a note on the throttling. I have unlimited and have gotten the message the past 2 months. I watch Netflix, hulu and use Pandora. Then they slow me and make my phone almost useless. If i get the message this month i will be calling them to *****.

http://www.inquisitr.com/184836/fcc...note-for-att-approval-sports-4g-connectivity/

Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy S Captivate running Saurom Projekt Rom using XDA Premium.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] droidal:
When I was at the ATT store Saturday, returning my 29 day old Skyrocket (loved it) they told me they just got all their promo materials in for the Note. So it shouldn't be long now, baby.:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] boxerlover02:
MAN I HOPE IT ISANT TO MUCH LONGER!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] kimocal:
My GoPhone agrees.. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] macwilson:
Oh my! that's good news. :)

It's a ***** waiting. I had a unlocked one but sold it to get an ATT and replace my iPhone, which I really like, but looks shabby next to the big guy.

iPhones are great, and the next one will be great too i'm sure. But Apple better be on the ball as Samsung is OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] upNsmokeAllDay:
Check out the pictures of the white note.

http://www.androidcommunity.com/att-samsung-galaxy-note-4g-lte-in-white-hands-on-20120116/

Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy S Captivate running Saurom Projekt Rom using XDA Premium.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] The Jack of Clubs:
as much as i want the white version of pretty much every phone i see, i think if i buy the note itll be the black version just cause i like the blue back and i like it textured.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tbong777:
Just in time for the SGS III to be released...... A little too late ATT.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] The Jack of Clubs:
pics or it didnt happen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] upNsmokeAllDay:
Hounding the web for GalaxyNote news? http://smsn.us/note Sign up here and save some time!

Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy S Captivate running Saurom Projekt Rom using XDA Premium.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bigmout:
Not gonna take your bait, free rider. I'll just say, if you knew what I do for a living, you would laugh your ass off at how wrong you are.

In other news, looks like February 18th is the launch date:

http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/25/atts-...-rugby-smart-and-att-fusion-launching-feb-18/

Have to say, the $299 price is a little high. Makes me seriously consider going the International route.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reinbeau:
Yea, $299 is up there, but I'll bet resellers will have it for less, that's how I got my Captivate, through Amazon, when it first came out, it was $199, but $149 at Amazon. Of course within a few months it was even lower :o
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] upNsmokeAllDay:
I got mine and my sons captivate free from wirefly when they came out by just renewing our contracts.

299 is rather steep.

Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy S Captivate running Saurom Projekt Rom using XDA Premium.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Featherbeard:
I wonder how much an out-of-contract version would be... 500-600? That's approaching the price of an international. ><
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dwboston:
I'm guessing either $649 or $699 for the no-commitment price.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] macwilson:
$300 sort of takes the fun out of it doesn't it? :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] HarmonyFlame:
Honestly I expected about 300.

Ill be searching retailers though for better pricing. Especially ones that has decent buy back or protection plans.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] legender:
Where did you find that price for the international version?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Featherbeard:
Sorry, I meant 500-600 through AT&T, not through international channels. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] imitenotbecrazy:
infuse, sgs2, and sgs2 skyrocket were all $650 without contract. Im going to guess the same trend will hold true with the Note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
Sgs2 is $550 off contract. I believe Skyrocket its in the same range.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ajamils:
And if that's the case then it would be better choice to pick international version (unless you REALLY want LTE)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
Is anyone actually surprised at $299? I'm not. I expected it at that price.

Sent from Steve Jobs' iPhone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Featherbeard:
Does anyone forsee any problems with AT&T and the international version of the Note? I'm worried we won't see specific updates that say, will fix certain issues, or still allow pressure sensitivity with the s-pen. (I'm wanting to use the Note as a mini sketchpad.) Or will international users be locked out of certain features, etc? (LTE excluded)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] imitenotbecrazy:
for some people that may be a better option I guess. Fortunately when my skyrocket "doesnt work anymore" best buy is going to give me $650 in store credit to purchase a new phone thanks to their black tie protection. Sooo I get a new phone at absolutely no cost to me. Been doing it for awhile :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] emcnelly:
Not surprised at all I expected exactly that price and I'm definitely willing to pay it.

I imagine that updates will be slower for the AT&T version because of bloat. And I'm sure that pressure sensitivity will be kept I don't know why they would remove an important feature of this phone because I know a lot of people draw with it and I also plan to use it to draw. And I doubt the international note will miss out on anything but that wonderful bloatware everyone loves. :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
I will be getting this as well. I just want to know when I can preorder the White version. Been waiting, and I'm ready to pass on my Infuse to my Momma. She's tired of her Blackberry.

Sent from Steve Jobs' iPhone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] HarmonyFlame:
Bloatware, contrary to popular belief, isn't exactly the culprit of untimely updates. Besides at&t iirc allows you to remove "bloatware".
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] baaj:
Like many, I've been waiting for this news for awhile. Not surprised, but I was hoping for 199. If the rumor is in fact true, I just can't justify paying so much for a locked phone, so will grudgingly have to suck it up and go with the int'l version. It's a little painful to do so now, having waited so long for the announcement, but I'm sure I'll have no regrets once it's in my hands.

Plus, I bet they'll strip out the FM radio, as they did with the SGS2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] daddymatt:
I have euro version in the states... let me tell you, no home button, no thanks. Its crazy difficult to turn it on without the home button... as a matter of fact, I disabled the power button because the only time it got used was when it turned my phone on going in my pocket... no exynos + no home button = huge Hercules crap... check out the reviews on the Hercules... no exymos sucks... of course if you've never had it, you may not miss it. But I went from a euro s2 to the Hercules and absolutely hated it and then got the note. Ahhh, home again!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gordec:
it's likely going to be 199.99. Remember the LG Nitro was released at $250 but most att stores were selling it for $150.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] naimmkassim:
No FM radio?? Thats s*ck!! ;P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
Will bestbuy be selling the note?

Sent from the SuperStreak! ;-)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
On release day, maybe. I doubt it. I just want the White version. That's all.

Sent from Steve Jobs' iPhone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
Probably 699.99 no commitment.

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That is exactly what I thought it would be. Not sure why people are surprised and comparing the prices of other phones to the GNote. They must not know the full capability of the Gnote. This device can do some much more than any other smartphone that ATT has. It is possible it could launch at a discount to the regular price to move a lot of units, at least initially.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] HarmonyFlame:
Looks like nfc is in our at&ts version after all. Very good.

www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/samsung-dissects-galaxy-note-confirms-nfc-support-for-lte-versi/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bigmout:
But see reports on this forum of the home button failing for a few users. Same thing happened with the trackball on the Nexus One. That's the risk with physical buttons.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Featherbeard:
Is NFC worthwhile to have? I'm trying to figure out what the point is besides being able to use your phone to pay for things? :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ericshmerick:
It it's current state, it's a gimmick.

Plus with NFC enabled SIM and microSD cards, embedded NFC is no longer an advantage. Not to mention it's pretty useless now. If you are getting a branded phone just for NFC, I wish you the best. It will be a frustrating reason.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Featherbeard:
Yeah, I'm going to be getting the international version but was just wondering why so many publications/online blogs are making such a big deal about it. It's kinda headscratching.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] baaj:
eh, it's new and it serves as something to write about when a blogger is out of ideas. And, it will be cool. Like 'mCommerce' was a hot media topic 10 years ago, even though there wasn't anything to speak of (in the US) until the first iPhone launched.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Featherbeard:
Call me old-fashioned, but there is *no* way I'm allowing my phone to be used as a digital wallet. All it would take is it being stolen to screw over my bank account. ;) Well, that and the only place I know that will allow this is Starbucks, and I don't even drink coffee. *Laugh*
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reinbeau:
It's a Good Thing

Just wanted to say - no doubt I'm the only one on XDA who saw it, but the Note was featured yesterday on Martha Stewart's show - she says she has a Galaxy Tab, and really liked the Note. Just thought you'd all like to know this :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Featherbeard:
Was it the AT&T version or the International? ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reinbeau:
The International one, but that doesn't matter to them, really, they discussed its future availability from AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Featherbeard:
Well, I guess if it's good enough for Martha, I don't feel as bad getting an International version. ;)