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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
You are forgetting that this statement is from Asus of Taiwan. You are also forgetting that it's been around a MONTH since Prime was released in Taiwan. Oh yea, we have yet to find out how Asus of USA will respond.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
I think I mentioned in an earlier post this is assuming this will apply worldwide. If you would like I will put this disclaimer in every post.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] adampdx:
I think the bottom line is that GPS was a function this tablet was supposed to provide and now it doesn't work. So part of the purchase price is going to the GPS function. Extending the warranty isn't fair compensation. A partial refund is fair compensation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] The_Ninjak:
This is promising news, indeed, but I'm not going to get too excited until I hear confirmation of the following:

1) That it'll be coming out in our respective countries (USA, in my case)

2) Some sort of timeframe for the release

3) Configurations and pricing

I'm sitting (not literally, of course) on an unopened 64GB Prime that I received from J&R this week. Having 30 days from receipt to return it, I thought I'd wait a bit to open and test mine (I hate creating unnecessary refurbs) depending on what info emerged in these threads to address the wireless (wifi/BT/GPS) issues. This announcement gives me some encouragement. I just hope, for example, that Asus doesn't do something such as making the 3G version's max storage be 32GB or they raise the pricing substantially. Asus Germany had said not too long ago that a 3G version was likely not going to happen, but they were also probably only speaking for themselves:

http://www.slashgear.com/no-transformer-prime-3gumts-version-says-asus-germany-01199243/

Looking forward to more developments on this. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
Hence why the people who feel this way have a choice to return it for a full refund ( heck a free rental on a kick ass tablet for a few weeks is pretty nice IMO) . It's time to let it go guys it is what it is I am one of the biggest critics about bashing ASUS on the whole GPS thing and even I can say this response from ASUS satisfies me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Falhawk:
It works, just not particularly well for some people.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
If it doesn't work as intended a full refund is perfectly fair. No one is forcing you to keep a tablet that doesn't work as advertised so if it is a problem for you, you can return it. Giving anything beyond the option of a full refund is simply a nice gesture from them, and providing an extended warranty is nice (companies almost always provide some sort of free service as a gesture, not monetary compensation).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HuskerWebhead:
It's too bad they aren't offering an option to have the existing metal backed Prime modified with this alleged plastic one. I know that would probably make a lot of people happy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
so in all since Asus already had 1yr. warranty n now this, we will have an Asus manufacturer warranty of a total of 1yr. & 6 months? like others said, I wonder if this is automatically or we have to sign up for something?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
Yah no idea. Really we don't even know for sure right now that this is available for everyone worldwide, but here's hoping.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
how do we know he really is a rep? I thought that guy was a fake when i seen him posting. seemed funny how he came out of nowhere. thought someone was fooling around acting like a rep from Asus..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] slugbug2010:
I really believe that if someone who intended upon relying on this tablet as a full-on dedicated GPS device should return it, get their money back, and spend it on another tablet that provides them with what they need. I'm still really surprised that anyone would use a tablet as a dedicated gps device when there are actual dedicated gps products. I can see using them together. But when I NEED and rely on having a gps, I use a dedicated gps and a backup - my Garmin and my phone.

For the rest of us that can handle the the mostly functional gps in a tablet, the issue has been resolved.

I think Asus has responded in a timely manner - the damn tablets were released less than 3 weeks ago.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyan_osu:
I own and operate a gaming website. I have met Gary and talked with him many times at CES and in Email. he's real and he is posting on here.

He was the one who also led me through the CES booth two years ago and I mentioned him in my article

http://www.gamingnexus.com/FullNews/CES-2010-ASUS/Item15819.aspx
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sikcness:
so does this Mean I can wait till they release the plastic one and return the one I got for it?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] csmall:
I'd like to know this as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n11:
I look forward to hitting the thanks button as soon as this is officially confirmed. The OP was, and still is, way ahead of the curve on this news. I've continued to search for more details and as of now the link he provided seems to be the only thing out there. Good find OP.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
Asus has yet to release any 3G tablet. A 3G TF1 was announced in May, previewed in October, and still hasn't been released.

http://www.tabletbite.com/3g-asus-transformer-spotted-wild-picture-4316/

If there's a 3G version of the Prime it'll be sold carrier-free overseas and via one or more of the carriers in the U.S. That probably won't help a lot of people and GSM tablets are usually $100 more than Wi-Fi.

Also, the 3G tablet Asus Taiwan referenced may not even be the Prime according to Asus Italy.

http://www.stuff.tv/news/computers-and-consoles/news-nugget/no-3g-for-transformer-prime-–-asus
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
yeah, they do have other tablets coming out. 3 of them I think. we know one is a 7in. and one is a 3g tablet. can't remember what the other one was. but none of them are new versions of prime. some will be lower spec.

I wouldn't even want a 3g version to get tied into yet another data plan. plus 3g speeds are slow compared to wifi connected Primes. although in sure a 3g could hook up to wifi of needed.

Asus did handle this in a timely matter as device was literally just released. People can't really ask for anything more than a full refund or the extra 6 month warranty. I'd gladly take the extra warranty given. what is this squaretrade warranty I keep hearing about? is this the warranty Gamestop tried to offer me when i bought the prime? what are conditions of that warranty? is it a if anything happens its covered warranty like if I drop it n break screen or spill liquid on it they automatically replace it without having to pay a deductible or anything? lol

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I was wondering where Andyx went once everyone started getting their prime. now he pops up with this very important info. good find Andy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
For two years with ADH, it's $99. If you go to slickdeals.net or retailmenot.com there's usually some 30% off coupon codes floating around. It also would cover anything that Asus might disclaim as caused by the user.

Here's the terms on ADH...

Accidental Damage from Handling (ADH) covers you from spilt liquids and dropped or damaged items. It's exactly what you need, whether you carry your laptop to work, bring your digital camera on vacation, or take your cell phone and MP3 player everywhere you go.

There is a $50 deductible when claiming accidental damage on Cell Phones only; SquareTrade has waived the deductible for all other ADH claims. There is no deductible if your issue occurred during normal use. ADH only covers new items
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fuzzer:
You miss the point that not everyone can afford multiple gadgets, not everyone has a smartphone, so they save to get a gadget that has everything they want and can afford. I'm sure very few are going to use it for only gps, but were expecting to use it when needed..

Yes, they should stop complaining and return it and wait for the next gen tabs, but stop hating people who did buy the prime expecting the gps to function, as it was advertised to...just because you can afford all the best gadgets...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HuskerWebhead:
To be fair, I think most people appear to "hate" on the complainers because at one point there were multiple threads started that were either sarcastic or smug in tone, complaining about the Prime and damn near insulting those that were content or happy with their Primes.

If people would keep things in one main (complaints/concerns) thread and don't troll other threads, things would have been much more civil. This goes for both sides really.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fuzzer:
i agree, but it isn't just limited to xda, every story that mentioned the gps not working, the flaming started, before anyone with a real complaint ever chimed in, "if you don't have all the latest gadgets, the fail on you"...

i'm not defending the excessive complaints, just the argument...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HuskerWebhead:
Group Hug!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tedr44:
Yes! All for one, or the Prime!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] UmbraeSoulsbane:
There can be no hugs in the war for Cybertron!

:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] zoro25:
if that is true then my prime is going going back and I'll wait for the 3g.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
Are you in the U.S.? How much are you willing to pay to get one? The G-Tab 32GB 3G is $730 imported from the UK. If it's offered by a U.S. carrier it's $1,240 over two years ($399 + $35 x 24). It doesn't seem like a practical solution just to get working GPS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] overclockxp:
I'd rather have a metal back than GPS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
True that, you could just buy a stand alone BT GPS unit for $50 (or tether to your phone). I never expect this tablet to do GPS as we have all envisioned, but I do think further software improvements will be made to eek out a little more improvement. Post ICS and post bootloader unlock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GCurry:
"Old School" vs "New School" Product Introductions

Following are some reflections on this product intro ...

First of all, I'm a boomer, been in the computer business since before timesharing, before PCs, smartphones, etc. Long time. For most of that I was a developer, engineering manager, but also directed product marketing for a computer company and later exec. So I've been musing on this Asus product introduction from that vantage.

"Old school" product introductions did product specifications based on market conditions/perceptions, engineering designed/developed mechanisms meeting those specs, and the introduction process was an attempt at a controlled process integrating design/development/unit test/system test/manufacturing QA/customer service/support/etc. Key word controlled. Since I was raised in that model, I tend to prefer it. But there is another, different way also.

Microsoft pioneered "new school" product introductions. They did the design and development phase (mostly) themselves, but for many products, deployed what I would have called alpha products to get feedback and testing done in the market. In some cases, there was no system test. They got away with it because of their monopoly position. In some sense, they "crowdsourced" unit and system test, and some of the product marketing function.

In either model, execs "meddled".

If I had to guess, I'd say Asus started with and "old school" model of the Prime intro, then execs meddled by positioning the TFP as prettiest/thinnest, which compromised engineering and forced Asus into a "new school" introduction.

Only Asus can say what it has to do to survive/prosper.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] zoro25:
I'm in based in uk and i guess it will only be slightly more once I've received my refund

it's the 3g i want more than gps.

i currently tether to my mobile a few times a day, 3g just makes it easier.

plus a later model should have most of the teething issues sorted.

######

regarding the above post Microsoft has never shipped a product without it going through a full planned test lifecycle.

it. was google and other startups who created the mass user acceptance testing.

look at gmail in beta for 2 years while being used by. tens of millions of users.

all dev shops make decisions with input from the pm's who will decide what is the exit criteria come planned launch time.

i think Asus knew about the issues pre launch and decided it wasn't a sev1 blocker.

nice to see they are potentially offering customers who keep their d devices an extended warranty
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] unknown_owner:
Well I called it right when I said they would just extend the warranty. No way were they going to give anyone a docking station.

Sent from my Photon
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tnimk:
I'm hoping after ICS gets release and tweaked that my prime can get some gps lock. Right now it's getting 0.

If I had to choose a compensation, a case would have been nice over the extended warranty and a reasonable offer.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
I think your thinking way too much into this Asus simply didn't do their homework and rushed this project.... would help if their engineers had a middle school education too.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GCurry:
Could be. But engineers want to keep their jobs too. And the "rush" just has the scent of positioning - Transformer as second-gen TF1, best, first Tegra 3, first with ICS, thinner/prettier than ipad ... - meddling. This has the "feel" of something whose positioning has changed very late in the game.

Nevertheless, I remember shielding and Faraday cages from Physics 101 in 1966. So I hear you.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdp252:
You're right this is how Apple does things as well. We read occasionally about some employee leaving the next generation Iwhatever laying around at a bar.

Because of this carelessness companies have learned not to trust handing out a large number of these "Alpha" devices and only the privileged few get them. This of course helps prevent devices from falling into competitors hands or even worst - being reverse engineered. But what it does not do is provide a large enough sample to form a conclusion of how well a product will function when thousands of customers are using them in every conceivable fashion.

I would also like to see a focus more on rigid scientific testing and quality control process instead of this haphazard capitalistic driven rush to get to market first so your next quarterly statement impresses shareholders.

I know it's an exaggeration, but If 10 people say it's ok it's ready for launch. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GCurry:
I guess I'm coming to the conclusion that that kind of company is what I personally prefer. I agree that Apple does things that way, but I don't like their closed stance so much. Motorola pioneered six-sigma, so are oriented that way, so I'm looking forward to what they say at CES. And Samsung, being the high-end from Asia, seems to have that orientation. I'm Android-committed, so Apple isn't even under consideration for me.

Asus is doing OK for what they have to compete against, I guess, but I'm looking for more "control".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] qwertylesh:
yeah how can they say that? what a load of bollocks. My iconia which is metal backplate sure as hell has a GPS too.

either the translation is off or theyre full of it. imho.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jfranco328:
Hey Bongobong, I agree with you...these complaints are getting old. If users are dissatisfied about the product or company that made it, why waste more time with the device. Just return it and spare us from your misery.

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This is just an opinion but someone looking to be cost effective is not going to look at a tablet, much less a tablet for GPS.Doesnt most new and used cars come with navigation anyway? if someone has service with metro PCS I think the priority would be to make the upgrade to a new smartphone, maybe one of those deals where they can get a smartphone for a penny on a better carrier. Lets not kid ourselves tablets are more of a luxury than a necessity. That can change when they are as productive and functional as a laptop.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
Spoken like someone who's young, hasn't had to schlep multiple gadgets on the road multiple times a week for business, or both. And most new cars "doesn't" come with navigation and very few rental cars do, and if they do, it's $12.95 per day. I'd assume most people saying they'd use a tablet for navigation mean that for when they're traveling, not at home. As for your MetroPCS example, I know millionaires who still use flip phones because they're too frugal to buy a data phone. I also know people receiving government assistance who have better toys than I do. Reflecting (just) your opinion on the purchasing priorities of others is a big leap.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>3G version of Prime expected in March per this article http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNe...D=201201060022

Does the OG Transformer 3G (TF101G) work for any of the US carriers? Can you even find it for sale in the US?

I think this reported 3G model would be for Asian (perhaps EU) market only.

In general, the 3G Android tab market is relegated to high-end niches, to be sold through carriers. I don't see the likes of Asus/Acer in this market, given their abortive attempt with the 3G Tegra 2 models.

@GCurry

I can't say that I've been around as long, or have as much industry experience. But in my observations, one can't compare past with present practices. Too much have changed. For one thing, the product cycle for the past 2 iterations of Android tabs is around 6-9 months, with the OS as a moving target. So, yes, the "public beta" (for those gung-ho early adopters with bulls-eyes on their chests) is an inevitable component.

The move to the Al unibody is a first for Asus, so "teething issues" are expected. I expect Asus will do the same as Apple and provide cut-outs along the edges for RF window.

I strongly disagree with those who said that a plastic back would be better for the Prime. The metal shell is the Prime's main selling point. Consumers generally associate metal-clad CEs as higher grade. It competes well with the iPad on looks. Asus is NOT going to drop it, if only for the major money invested in the fab process.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
The 3G TF1 was previewed to the EU media but never released. It was due out in the fall so I don't know if they still plan to release it. Maybe someone in Europe knows more specifics.

Outside the U.S., carrier-free 3G tablets are as popular as Wi-Fi versions. HTC, LG, Motorola, Sony, Archos, Acer, and Samsung all offer them.

The Acer tablet's available on AT&T for $329 and their quad-core is supposed to launch in both 3G and Wi-Fi at the same time. The 3G will only be available in the U.S. if a carrier picks it up.

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...Dark+Chrome&q_sku=sku5280271#fbid=cnHdwBkRTk4
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
Thanks for the info. I expect AT&T which has GSM would be more amenable to more tabs than Verizon. The latter only sports Moto, Samsung, and Apple iPads for tablets.

All the same, I'm not sure why anyone would buy a relative low-end tablet like the Acer A500G, when the monthly data fees that make up the bulk of the cost are the same regardless. The demographic (enterprise and biz travelers) is not a price-sensitive segment. IOW, the business case isn't there for "volume vendors" like Acer/Asus. This, speaking wrt the US. I'm not a traveler so I can't say how international markets fare.

Then again, all this may change if Acer will indeed come out with a fullHD tablet. Acer has been making announcements about moving into "more profitable" segments, so this may be its first volley.

Edit: Anyway, getting back to the topic of GPS resolution for the Prime, I don't think anybody should bank on the report of a 3G model as to mean one would be available in their region (outside of Asia). Even if it were to happen for the US, I don't see any mention of a trade-in or exchange for wifi models.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nxp3:
OK now we're getting somewhere

If this is true..then I'm satisfied. I will return for a refund. I'll just have to get the next quad core, who knows, it might be samsung or another brand. Maybe I won't need to use the GPS in the tablet, but it feels so wrong to know that something isn't working right when you paid 500 for it. How will they refund this to us? Need information if this will be worldwide....US at least. :) Sure we maybe able to tether to an external gps...but who the heck wants that, I don't want to carry additional stuff and waste battery turning on wifi and blutooth.

Need more info on this. As far as their 3g version...that might be too much for me, don't want a data plan when I can tether to phone with a hack. Oh and if the 3g is 7 incher...forget it. I want the prime because the screen is decent size...and I would even go bigger if there were bigger screen. The reason being not that i'm a big screen whore, just that my vision is bad (retinal detachment) and big screen helps.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] acidus.:
Cancelled my 64gb pre-order.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SamsungVibrant:
AnandTech's findings

Interesting reads:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5285/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-gps-issue-explained

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-why-it-cant-be-fixed-with-a-software-update/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] unknown_owner:
So with this knowledge about a full refund, I wonder how long it will take to get a refund back from Asus if we have to send it back to them for the refund? Maybe 6-8 weeks like a rebate? They might say you can get a full refund up until the day the next quad-core is due to be released. I think I will continue to use this and see what the other models look like and price before I make a decision on switching. GPS is not a problem for me, but the weak wifi is what is killing me.

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lorthirk:
TF1 3G has been released in July in Italy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bar_rodoy:
OK, they will produce a 3g model, but the basic WIFI model will stay the same? I mean, they will produce a better model or just keep it as it is?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] stelek:
It's also available in Poland...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lorthirk:
However this looks like a huge announcement. I'm really looking forward for confirmations or denials in the next few days, but as someone else said here, I'm not giving Asus 599€ for a product which I know in advance it won't perform 100%. So, if it will ever be, I'll wait for the plastic backplate version.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-roadm...rime-3g-incoming-win8-tab-this-year-07207053/

"CES 2012 will bring a 7-inch tablet – potentially this leaked model – and a 10-inch “high resolution” model, according to ASUS’ Samson Hu, while two further 10-inch models will drop in the second half of the year"

Just how many tablets is Asus trying to release? If above statement holds true, they released the current Prime just to be the first Tegra 3 & ICS device (which explains the poor launch, although.. inexcusable).
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intelwalk:
I am getting the screen replaced and need to get my pictures off it and I can't figure out the adb command to use. Can anyone help me out?

Thanks

Intelwalk
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkhShadow:
Do you have USB debugging turned on? Otherwise you would need a custom recovery, otherwise you can't....

Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S