yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Droid Charge] NotATreoFan:
A few people reported restore issues with 5.0. However, imnuts updated it with a small change to fix restores, so try flashing CWM 5 again from his thread.

Regarding update - Post #1 (w/ download)
[Verizon Droid Charge] BlackHoleSlam:
every time i try downloading it it finishes and i try flashing in odin and i get a md5 mismatch error
[Verizon Droid Charge] NotATreoFan:
It downloaded as .tar.tar for me. Did you try taking one of those off?
[Verizon Droid Charge] BlackHoleSlam:
mine downloads as tar.md5

Update i deleted the .md5 and it flashed

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tried restoring with 12_09 same error
[Verizon Droid Charge] cmdrfrog:
Imnuts has previously posted a rfs formatter that you just flash in cwm, it may help
[Verizon Droid Charge] NotATreoFan:
I just flashed it as .tar.tar, and it worked fine for me. Try backing up your SD card and then formatting it clean.
[Verizon Droid Charge] BlackHoleSlam:
hmm i should find that i just don't truly understand the problem when i backed up i was on rfs and i am trying to restore while on a rfs system
[Verizon Droid Charge] SO_dank:
I just saw the pics posted...i want it... I want it... I want it!!!! So in all reality what are the odds this actually gets up and running tweaks and all??? Good job on getting this going you guys are awsome!! If It had radios I'd run it bit but I neef my phone 24/7 so no room to experiment. Awsome!!!

If youz need ne help let me know I can tie my shoes well and I have all my teeths buts thats about the only smart things I does.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ace5198:
been creeping jt's github.. and looks like he is making some progress on the RIL dont get me wrong im no coder, and there is a good chance im wrong.. but it looks good to me:D...

i was reading through here seeing after flashing this ics people were in old cwm.. i was in a brand new cwm like 5.5.0.something, with a 3dish android guy in the background i didnt make a backup(who really does that anyways :)) and tried to wipe and reflash infinity in this recovery and it bricked phone.. kept booting into factory recovery 3e i believe.. had to flash a stock odin file with pit to repair
[Verizon Droid Charge] jco23:
so what's the best ROM to flash this from? I'm currently using Humble 5.0 RC2 (EP4P). wondering if I need to go EP4D?
[Verizon Droid Charge] AlexDeGruven:
No. Nothing needs a 3rd party task manager anymore. Not since 2.2+.

On top of that, ICS's task management does a much better job. Just swipe an app away from the running list, and it's gone.

Finally, the task manager you see on the stock Charge is part of TouchWiz, which will not be included in any ROM until Samsung and Verizon release ICS for the Charge (read: never).
[Verizon Droid Charge] JihadSquad:
I didn't get a reply last time (thread moved too fast) so I'll post this again:

Sent from my pocket-sized, Linux-based computer using electromagnetic radiation.
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
You corruped your memory beyond what can be done with CWM. Reformat with Odin and try again.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Shadowchasr:
Hey, I did the same thing; got some SS's first though... totally worth it to see how slick ICS is on the Charge. I think Sammy is making a big mistake by not porting it to this phone.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter what I think :mad:

Trying to decide what ROM I want to load.. I've got stock already and things seemed ok on it except the occasional hiccup the last few days.

But yea - anyone looking @ the ICS port - expect to wipe/restart... I got mine so confused that I couldn't even get back into CWM; nothing a PC and Odin can't fix, but it's still a touch annoying.

Now, if someone wanted to start a thread on where your 'saved' settings were in a full SD card dump for all APKs and ADW launcher settings... I'd <3 you long time.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Scrappy1:
According to the article link below, ICS actually does not kill the process when you swipe it off the recent apps screen. It's actually acting more like iOS in this regard.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112013-how-multitasking-works-on-android-and-ios/2
[Verizon Droid Charge] ambrar12:
I installed ICS and the stock browser loads much more quickly, but it doesn't seem very smooth for some reason. Opera Mobile still has a much better feel to it.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Shadowchasr:
Ahh <3 the voodoo girl voice

Noteworthy Note: USE THE FACTORY CABLE!

I <3 her voice coming from my phone. Unfortunately; downloading even older ROMS to try and fix EXT4 issues... *sigh*
[Verizon Droid Charge] nismology:
The problem is with the 1208 release not being able to format properly purportedly as an indirect result of fixing the data partition erasure issue there was with the 0807 cwm and the infinity kernel. I ran into the same issue and just had to manually pull the relevant files from the nandroid backup using root explorer.
[Verizon Droid Charge] BlackHoleSlam:
How did you pull the files

Sent by me, for me and i love you
[Verizon Droid Charge] GreenMunky:
I would like to know this as well...
[Verizon Droid Charge] nismology:
Don't want to derail this thread by going too far OT but the 1208 cwm recovery uses tar files instead of disk images to back data up so you can extract said tars using root explorer and copy and paste whatever you need. Restored my SMS/mms this way. It's actually very straightforward.
[Verizon Droid Charge] juanzr1:
This rom is going to be sick! can't stop from checking the post every hour for updates
[Verizon Droid Charge] Jack.Rounsborg:
Any news on the radios? Amazing work!
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Blankpost...
[Verizon Droid Charge] StinkFoot_E92:
Would like to thank JT and all the other dev members for their hardwork contributed to this very promising rom.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Juiced718:
ICS

this rom is unbelievable, I cannot wait to be able to use this daily, I don't care about camera, I just want to be able to call, text and use data over vzw network

so hopefully itll be soon
[Verizon Droid Charge] BlackHoleSlam:
Agreed

Sent by me, for me and i love you
[Verizon Droid Charge] letsgophillyingeneral:
Eh, the camera would be nice considering that the camera/lens is one of the reasons I got the Charge.

But yes, this ICS ROM is freaking awesome. It's one of the most complete/usable ICS ports I've seen.
[Verizon Droid Charge] dhenryrmu:
Has anyone tried flashing any of the older radios with this ICS ROM? I couldn't care less about the camera. I just need voice & data.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
Can't stop checking this thread hourly... Huge donation to jt upon completion! So excited
[Verizon Droid Charge] AlexDeGruven:
There was a lot of discussion about this in another forum I frequent. It was determined that, according to the SDK documentation, ICS will send a stop, not pause when something is swiped from the list. IOS-style is what Android does when you hit Home, just like IOS.

Even so, the need for a task killer of any kind post 2.2 is almost (and I say almost) completely unnecessary.
[Verizon Droid Charge] TidusWulf:
this isn't a bad idea. can this work?
[Verizon Droid Charge] Dalamar1320:
Won't work.

Think of it this way. If you are coming from an ep4d rom, you already have the ep4d modem going into ics. Flashing them over again makes 0 difference.
[Verizon Droid Charge] dhenryrmu:
This is true

in theory

. A friend of mine got the official ICS ROM for his Nexus S, except that was't for T-Mobile. He flashed it, then re-flashed his T-Mobile Modems and viola... workage.

And I dont necessarily mean EP4D. All of them should be tried.

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Perhaps I am being impatient, or doing this too quickly... but I cannot get this ROM to run.

I want to try my modem theory, but I can't.

I wiped my data, installed the ROM with CWM, mounted /system, installed Google Apps... and rebooted. I get the Samsung logo for what seems to be FOREVER... but after 5 - 10 minutes, I just shut it off and try rebooting again.

I loaded another ROM with ODIN, and tried again... but it still will not boot.

Am I just being stupid/impatient?
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
same here. just reboot back into cwm and repeat the flash process. wipe...etc..
[Verizon Droid Charge] blueis300:
I tried also and no go.
[Verizon Droid Charge] nismology:
Maybe this is an obvious suggestion but have you all tried mounting system BEFORE flashing the ROM? The install took the very first time for me.
[Verizon Droid Charge] twistmycap:
Soo happy to have this already! Thank you soo much!! Will buy some dinners :-)
[Verizon Droid Charge] cujo6801:
Now that's just crazy talk

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[Verizon Droid Charge] TidusWulf:
oh god wat? good thing I'm holding off on this because I'm not really sure what it is you're suggesting. I've flashed many phones but I don't think I've ever done what you're asking to successfully flash any of them.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Jwahlg:
Pretty much,

The problem isn't with the modems we have, Its how android interacts with the modem or the RIL "radio Interface Layer". Samsung kinda borked the hell out of ours and won't release the source for it, which means if we're going to run any rom that isn't made by samsung Jt, or some other dev needs to reverse engineer samsungs code, or to make their own ril from scrach which would be a huge pain in the tush if possible at all.
[Verizon Droid Charge] DirgeExtinction:
In Recovery, go to mounts, then mount /system.
[Verizon Droid Charge] AlexDeGruven:
No, it's true 100%. The reason it worked for your friend is because he flashed a full ROM on his T-Mo phone, which included radio firmware for whichever carrier it was it was originally released on. This breaks the radios until he flashed the official radios back on.

The reason the radios don't work for us on ICS yet is because the RIL software isn't in place yet. This is completely separate from the radio firmware and resides entirely within the OS. The RIL is the software that gets queried when the OS wants to talk to the radios. The RIL does not change when flashing new radio firmware.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
Flashed, messed around with it. It's pretty cool. Shows alot of potential if it ever gets up and running, ironed out etc. quick question. Is there a way to enable the soft keys on the screen to circumvent the physical ones? I think if thats possible i could use my extra dc as a pmp.
[Verizon Droid Charge] juanzr1:
Just seen jt's Twitter,and he's putting in work.as well as other people.
[Verizon Droid Charge] juanzr1:
T-mobile galaxy s2? Nice
[Verizon Droid Charge] Loustsoul:
cm9

is this going to be a cm rom?
[Verizon Droid Charge] scarygood536:
From my understanding cm9
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
Yea thats my daily driver. I just tool around with my dc these days.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
I believe so
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
What languages do you need to know to code for phones? I knew Linux way back in the day in the Navy. Would love to help in any way further this thread.
[Verizon Droid Charge] duuurp:
I think you need to know java for apps and framework and c/c++ for kernel development. There a few xml files around too.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
Thanks I'll start reading.

If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!
[Verizon Droid Charge] TidusWulf:
please don't be dead :(
[Verizon Droid Charge] starvenmarven:
+1
[Verizon Droid Charge] NotATreoFan:
Did I miss something?
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
not dead just very slow moving progress, RIL is an incredible pain in the butt to sort out... add that to the fact that there's only a handful of people working on it (and not full time) and that means it'll come just takes time
[Verizon Droid Charge] htcSlide:
I can't from the Photon.. They had the same problem with cm7.. If I remember right, they ripped the ril from stock.. Is this possible for this?
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
the Moto Photon from sprint? was it 4G? even if it was, it was Wimax and on the Charge its LTE... idk if it makes a difference but RIL for 4G VZ phones has proven a problem and I don't think its possible for them to do that (most likely because we don't have RIL source) or they would've already done it

blazing through on my A500 with ICS :D
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
For now it is but I'm sure the dev is trying to make it useable in the least. Won't happen overnight tho. I hear the cm crew is hitting all sorts of hurdles on the nexus and that's a more current handset compared to dc.
[Verizon Droid Charge] timedroid:
AFAIK the part that actually interfaces with the radio (libsec-ril40* here) is closed-source on all phones (even on the Nexus).

BTW I looked at using some of the Galaxy Nexus stuff but it connects to the modem over USB (like the Galaxy SII) rather than DPRAM (like the Galaxy S and the Charge), so I don't think it will be of any help.
[Verizon Droid Charge] DirgeExtinction:
Geez, there's a lot of work to be done. Be patient.
[Verizon Droid Charge] TidusWulf:
I don't mean to be impatient. I just noticed on JT's github that the Charge section hasn't been touched for days where other sections have. when I read the OP about "the most unsupported ROM in existence" (or whatever it says) I feared that it was just a one-time release with no updates planned by JT. :S
[Verizon Droid Charge] htcSlide:
Gotcha.. Didn't even think about the difference in 4g.. Tho.. Build.prop on photon does have lots of VZW LTE written in.. Lol.. Bizarre.
[Verizon Droid Charge] DirgeExtinction:
He's probably been very busy.
[Verizon Droid Charge] charlie_c:
He moved and started a new job if I'm not mistaken.
[Verizon Droid Charge] DirgeExtinction:
If that's true, then that's great.
[Verizon Droid Charge] cujo6801:
It's true I read it on his twitter

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[Verizon Droid Charge] Rominucka:
Well not for me it isn't!!!

Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
[Verizon Droid Charge] charlie_c:
Developers work better when they can feed themselves.
[Verizon Droid Charge] martyr2k6:
If it is such a hassle, why don't you go and learn to whip up roms, kernels, themes, mods yourself... either make a contribution, show some appreciation or gtfo...

Seriously, I am about as anxious as the next user, but I don't have the drive to learn to code, otherwise you would see weekly stuff from me... and I don't gripe unless I have been given permission to do so...
[Verizon Droid Charge] jt1134:
Stfu and gtfo
[Verizon Droid Charge] Hindle1225:
Dude(Rominucka) was obviously joking around and you all jump down his throat. I was a fan of jt and was watching and hoping for further progress. . Now with this attitude why bother loading any of his roms. Wow JT, good luck on your new journey. Maybe they'll teach you some class wherever you moved.
[Verizon Droid Charge] charlie_c:
Being unemployed is hilarious. So is acting completely ungrateful for the massive amount of time JT has committed to this project. Seriously. The lulz are killing me. Maybe he has a sick family member we can joke about next.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Hindle1225:
Charlie... See what I'm referring to. Still going to take your nieve stance?
[Verizon Droid Charge] zzd4nzz:
le
[Verizon Droid Charge] ambrar12:
Ah... so no progress in the last week or so. Well lucky for me I finally got ICS on my Touchpad lol. That will definitely "hold me over".
[Verizon Droid Charge] Deeked:
It's nice, isn't it. I love it on my tab. Thanks to jt1134.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
Jt is doing this for free, on his own time, and away from work. Little patience never hurt anyone guys.

If it wasn't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!
[Verizon Droid Charge] jt1134:
Lulz

Stfu and gtfo douchebag :)

My family is considerably more important to me than "fans" or what some douche on the internets definition of class is.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Hindle1225:
Its alright... Your young and obviously have allot of growing up yet to do.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jt1134:
Moar lulz

Worked 12 hours today. Pretty tired. Wake me up when its time to care what you think or say, "big boy" ;)

And it's you're not your and that's not an autocorrect failure, nyannyannyan
[Verizon Droid Charge] jt1134:
It would also be OK to wake me up when hindle1225 graduates from MYOFB class :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] Loustsoul:
Jt is better than you. Jealous?
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
I guess you couldn't prove me wrong. :p I keed, I keed lol! Seriously tho good luck with work and the fam. Time to pony up crybabies and step into the world of dual/quad core devices if you wanna see consistent deving or you can pray in one hands and sh1t in the other and see what fills first. Hate to say I told you so but devs have better things to do than work on outdated handsets.
[Verizon Droid Charge] maurogg84:
Come on stop fighting, they going to close the forum, and Jt never gong to build ics for the charge
[Verizon Droid Charge] Loustsoul:
JT is awesome I have had his work on multiple phones including the fassy everything he has done has been epic and I appreciate every moment he spends helping us to find the true potential of our equipment.

thank you JT.
[Verizon Droid Charge] maurogg84:
+ 1

Humble Charge 5.0

Fuju tweaks ICS 4.0

Supercharged v6

Kickasskernelizer
[Verizon Droid Charge] ztkryan:
Im pretty sure jt has never said he is done working on the ics port for the charge who cares how long it takes its his time thank him for his amazing work and donate.

Ril won't happen overnight
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
No offence to jt but thats bull$hit. He's got real life things to tend to and you guys cling to his nuts like codependant beaten housewives. Get over it. Move on and stop trolling him and each other. It's sad to watch.
[Verizon Droid Charge] adrenaline_rush:
It's pathetic how many complaining pissy drama queens there are in this thread. Unbelievable, show some maturity and respect people
[Verizon Droid Charge] lips2286:
Back to topic:

Thanks jt for trying. I gives a damn if you finish and I donated anyway.

I donated to JT because I thought he deserved it in general. he does cool ****. so, here's a few bucks from one nerd to another.

again, thanks for your efforts in the Charge community in general.

A Hobby can be profitable. Fans need to understand that this is a hobby. Aren't you more likely to do something if you are getting paid?

So speak with your wallet.

So anyone having any issues with this ROM? Installing or running issues?
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
I'm amazed the few devs/themers we have left even bother with us and all the internet tough guys here... I for one am waiting anxiously for ICS/CM9, jt take your time bro and stay classy :p

:cool:

blazing through on my Acer A500 with ICS :D
[Verizon Droid Charge] TidusWulf:
wisdom.

the last thing I need is for assholes to **** talk the guys who work hard to make life better for the rest of us. anyone in here who is ungrateful can piss off. the last thing I need you guys doing is giving JT a reason to abandon this project.
[Verizon Droid Charge] mkarps:
Reading the last few pages of this thread makes me sick.
[Verizon Droid Charge] matalo:
Hi! And thanks for your hard work! If the charge were not my daily phone I would definitely be trying this out.
[Verizon Droid Charge] cujo6801:
let's try this...good morning android community....I hope everybody has a great day...
[Verizon Droid Charge] maurogg84:
big Android smile
[Verizon Droid Charge] juanzr1:
good morning bro, have a great day yourself
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
Nice change of tone huh guys? Have a great day!
[Verizon Droid Charge] cujo6801:
Just wanted to say thanks to jt for figuring out the source code on the charge kernel ..just another show of how good you are as a dev ...

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[Verizon Droid Charge] Farabomb:
Man, you are like herpes. Figured our apology in the beginning of the thread wasn't heartfelt.

You are the one trolling and seeing as you consider charge owners "beaten housewives" you pick what you think is an easy target. You are less than useless.

jt, thanks for all your hard work and don't let the trolls get you worked up.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
+1 ....wait..doh! Nice try. I'm not going to bite.
[Verizon Droid Charge] bamathrasher:
Thanks JT for your hard work, as an IT professional it drives me crazy how good you devs are with this code and a few hours of your time and the fact that I can't understand any of it haha. My coworker recently got the Nexus and picking one up for myself has been my focus as of late, but this has completely renewed my interest in my charge. Donation coming your way upon completion.

Keep up the good work.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Rominucka:
It seems to be getting a little sensitive around here.

Well I apologize to everyone whose feelings got hurt.

Now quit stalling and finish the ROM!

Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
[Verizon Droid Charge] juanzr1:
The eclipse ROM is sick , stop complaining do yourself a favor and flash that ROM along with the pbj kernel .and your set
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
Yea I flashed it too. Its pretty slick.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Rominucka:
I'm completely kidding.

I'm in no rush to have ICS on my phone. It would be great but I'm completely fine with the Infinity ROM. I used to run Eclipse FE.

The Infinity ROM does freeze and reboot, so I might check out Eclipse again....as long as it has full TW4 and it's based off the OTA GB update.
[Verizon Droid Charge] juanzr1:
well no touchwiz 4, but it is based on the latest update. Plus with pbj kernel,it really flys
[Verizon Droid Charge] DROID3R:
Eclipsevrom is notvready for primetime... tweakstock 1.1 is best
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
LOL to each their own... Eclipse is cool as is Tweakstock, I've run both

blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge :D
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
I'm running eclipse and pbj and have hit over 3000 and its smooth.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Rominucka:
See what I'm really waiting for is a port of Samsung's ICS TW4, which will be possible once the guys get stock ICS working.

You like that segue back to on topic?

Yea...you do.

Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge 4G-LTE
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
Is RIL causing the holdup?
[Verizon Droid Charge] GreenMunky:
Yup, it's the reason we've never had CM, Miui, and now ICS holdups :-\
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
What would happen if we all spammed the crap out of Samsung to release it?

Or if we contacted Samsung Korea?
[Verizon Droid Charge] zigzackattack:
All I can say is that I'll be doing some serious research about a phones developability (did I just make that word up) before buying another samsung phone. Beautiful display, but thats not enough to keep me!
[Verizon Droid Charge] shrike1978:
Probably nothing. RIL's are never released for any phone. The reason they are causing issues on this phone is that it's the first one released with these radios so there is no prior work to go on.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
Or you can learn to dev and quit complaining. There are plenty of stable, solid roms for this phone. Want ICS? Get a job and buy a gnexus or get a handset thats being developed on.
[Verizon Droid Charge] TidusWulf:
I was using Infinity for a while but it was severely lagging. I am praying that ICS gets a radio for the charge, but in the mean time, I've flashed Eclipse and so far I'm very pleased.

keep up the good work JT! I'm not going anywhere so you better not either ;) hope you're enjoying your new job
[Verizon Droid Charge] BattsNotIncld:
The only thing keeping me from flashing this every day just to play around with it is that nandroid backups don't work on the latest CWM. Pain in the bum to reflash ROM then go through Titanium etc...

Hopefully our resident android geniuses can figure this thing out! I'm drooling over the thought of cm9 on the Charge :D
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
The only thing that's keeping me off is a working radio :P
[Verizon Droid Charge] TidusWulf:
same here. the radio