yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I would say that is a safe assumption.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NintendoSpy:
I could take a picture, but mine is also unlocked. You might be hard pressed to find someone with a locked bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I really don't know how a picture will help. Hell, I could make a "picture" with my phone having revision 11.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Which would make you a d-bag if you did.

It is not to prove it to us (we have enough proof), its to get lame ass Samsung and carriers to admit they did a stealth revision. They won't sit there and call their customers liars and that its a fraudulent pic. Not if they want to keep said customers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rsxtypes72:
Lol

Let's try and be civil. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I am being civil. But to say something like that in this thread, instantly undermined its credibility.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
More to what I posted below. They are not going to look at this thread and realize a travesty has occurred and give out free devices. Nor will they look at this thread an learn that someone can use photoshop and deny a revision 10 hardware exists. The screen shots are of their own product. I think that is the point we need to drive home. As users have reported, they tell them to turn on any recent phone the store received and the bootloader will show the revision 10.

Name calling aside, it still proves nothing. I honestly don't see the value of the picture. Not being a smart ass, literally I don't see the value. I have had Verizon out-right refuse to look at technical documents from the phone manufacturers as well as Verizon press statements. Remember the whole OBEX BT transfer scandal with the e815? Their official policy is that if it is not an internally distributed document they can access ,they cannot treat it as fact.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You mean the lawsuit? That they lost?

Yeah I remember it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I know they lost. Again, my point was that the consumer will prevail. We just need to inundate them with service issues. If we one at a time go in and formally file service tickets and make the paper trails in their system I can only assume it will end the same way. Sadly, we need time and patience. With dropped calls and lack of service our patience is wearing thin. I'd like to take a page from the book of Reagen, "We win, they lose."

So far, I have already placed a service ticket for bad signal and second ticket for a sim replacement. The next step I take will be a corporate request to investigate the issue(s) with my device. I have always taken the tactic of guiding them along with rhetorical (while non-insulting) questions to allow them to come to the conclusion that I am being screwed. It has worked very well. I encourage everyone to do the same. Also, not to settle for a refurb. We paid for new working devices and they do not work. Verizon released a statement saying a fix was in place (for aesthetic signal purposes, not real issues... yeah right :rolleyes:) and to this date, no fix.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Got my (new) replacement today.

09 rev.

:(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Brand new or certified like new? If you got brand new you can always take it in the box to a local store and exchange it for a revision 10. I would probably contact Verizon first and ask what baseband/revision you should be on (rhetorical questioning) and when they say 10, tell them your device says 9 and ask if you can exchange it at a local store. They will usually annotate your account to allow you to do that. Then, get a r10 and profit!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Brand new. I checked the refurb status internally. Its never been reconditioned according to that.

But it was a replacement device from best Buy, so I didnt have the luxury of sifting through boxes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Hey man, it may be worth a shot to call Big Red and ask.

Sorry you got an 09.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
That sucks, how do you check refurb status internally?

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That sucks...

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That sucks

EDIT: no idea why this thing posted 3 times...i guess i did a double or triple edit ignore it..LOL
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
In triplicate, LOL.

*#*#786#*#*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yeah I might do it. On a side note, I seemed to have traded some loudness (more) for some interesting screen artifacts (banding). I need to find out if getting Verizon to replace it voids my Best Buy insurance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Interesting, best buy insurance... no asurian through verizon?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Powell730:
We dial this?? When I do that the numbers just disappear.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
For those w .10 hardware. What does the box read that came w the phone? This will help me get a gnex from best buy as they have the 30 day exchange program and I'm returning my .09. Thanks.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Well, me being hard on phones due to compiling and what not, I opted for unlimited returns at 10 bucks a month, in place of 2 a year, for 7, and an 89? dollar deductible.

The disadvantage is that it usually takes 2-5 days, but can take 30. It took me 5 days.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Pretty sure that is the correct number for RTN. Let me double check (my wife jacked my phone).

Edit: yes.

<action android:name="android.provider.Telephony.SECRET_CODE" />

<data android:scheme="android_secret_code" android:host="786" />

*#*#786#*#*

You can see it in action here, sort of. We have to use different characters surrounding the code.

http://www.groovypost.com/howto/howto/check-android-reconditioned-or-oem-status/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I might be buying a second one tonight. I will let you know if I do.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
Here is what my .10 box shows on the bottom of the box, guess this the UPC label, not sure if any different then the 09 box since I don't have that anymore to compare:

MW2 VZW-SKU - SCHI515MSV

UPC: 6 35753 49469 3

SW-Ver : I515.EK05

Phone Made in china

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I got some banding as well with this one, not super bad, one line right down the middle that can be seen on white/grey screens with brightness under 50%

It annoys me but my last phone had this purple tint, cannot win.

As long as I keep it higher then 50% I am ok.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mcbrocker:
purchased my phone on the 14th of this month and mine is the 09. i really hate this, mine goes to 1x alot. typing this now with no bars, 3g is grey. My fascinate would have three bars in the same area, kinda stupid.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
WOWWWWWWW!!!!

So I have a .09 like I said. You are telling me yours is .10

My Box reads the two that caught my eyes were these:

YOUR: SW-VER I515.EK05

MY: SW-VER 1515.EK01

YOUR: MADE IN CHINA

MY: MADE IN KOREA

WTF!!!!

What is up with that!? Lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ttereve:
A friend of mine just picked one up today from best buy. HW VERSION 8 with baseband .09. gonna meet up tomorrow to see if there are reception differences but this at least seems to point to .09 not being HW locked
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
hw version 8 was a test device, and never sold.

If it shows I515.09, it is hw rev. 09, not 8.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I got a .10 tonight.

It was made in Korea.

Side by side, both running 4.0.2:

09 had better signal, but was on 3g. 10 had worse signal but was on 4g.

09 shipped with 4.0.1. 10 shipped with 4.0.2.

09 screen is way too bright, and has a lot of banding. 10 screen has nice deep blacks and no banding.

09 battery door pops right on. 10 battery door feels like I will break the tabs every time.

Both are brand new devices.

So...I have no idea what the difference is because all of the above (aside from software version) could just be typical quality variances in a mass produced product. The signal issues could be a random occurrence.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Side by side, 09 and 10:

Check the signal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chrisomnia1:
Not sure if i am reading this wrong, but are we saying that if the phone has BB 10, it has different hardware?

I was under the impression that the baseband is software and is a flashed file just like the leaked BB and radios.

Shouldn't there be a .10 BB file floating around?

Just found a tweet from P3 showing:

http://yfrog.com/oerqup

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Can someone tell me if their bluetooth skips (mostly in-car bluetooth) on BB 10?

This may be the only fix for this problem that is killing me.

I may have to do some reading on basebands. Probably has nothing to do with bluetooth functionality.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Powell730:
Hmmm.. So weird it just doesn't work for me. The numbers disappear and that's it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
Yeah I notice my screen is not as bright, but I did have one band, only noticeable at less then 50% on white/grey background, blacks are definitely deep black, I notice color temp is very warm.

Battery door I did not notice a difference, but I did not pay that much attention to it, door seem to pop on for me, it still a crappy way of they doing that door, not sure why they did it that way.

Any chance you test the speakerphone and make a call see if it sounds much better compared to 09?

I am starting to think more and more devices I have exchange, it seems each one is made so slightly different, and I guess it depends which factory it came from, since each one has its own traits
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
If you are aosp it usually does not work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Version 10 has NOTHING to do with radio firmware. If you notice his screenshot, its a rev 9 device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
Just curious what is more important? dbm or ASU?

everytime I am looking at signal I always look at dbm, but is ASU important at all?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
asu is proximity to current tower you are connected to, I think*. Don't quote me on that.

In the above camera shot, I was ~500ft from the tower.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
ASU

ASU or Active Set Update is an integer value proportional to the received signal strength measured by the mobile phone.

It is possible to calculate the real signal strength measured in dBm (and thereby power in Watts) by a formula. However, there are different formulas for 2G and 3G networks.

In GSM networks, ASU is equal to the RSSI (received signal strength indicator, see TS 27.007).

dBm = 2*ASU - 113, ASU in the range of 0..31 and 99

In UMTS networks, ASU is equal the RSCP level (received signal control power, see TS 25.125)

dBm = ASU - 116, ASU in the range of -5..91

Although the mobile standards define an ASU message ("Active Set Update") used in handover procedures, on Android phones the acronym ASU has nothing to do with Active Set Update. It has not been declared precisely by Google developers, but it is believed to mean "Arbitrary Scale Unit" or "Android Signal Unit". (see NeighboringCellInfo)

There are many GSM Signal Monitoring applications available for android OS.

-wiki
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
Interesting, how did you know how far from tower you are? Or you can see the tower literally?

at work on 3G right now mine is -83 dbm 4 asu, but I am in NYC i would assume I am really close to a tower though not sure.

Ok I just switched it to 4G just to see, I am on the 25th floor in midtown of a 32 floor tower, and my LTE says 3 Bars with -93 dbm and 47 asu

I have no idea if being higher and in a building is better or worst for LTE?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I can see the tower from the front door of where I live :D

Sadly, its an ATT tower that Verizon is sharing, and for whatever reason VZW has not enabled LTE on it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lost Dog:
I thought I'd add my experiences to this thread... I'm in the Portland, OR are and picked up my Nexus last Thursday (the 19th). In fact, my company picked up four at the same time...

I'm on I515.10 V.EK05 / I515.EK02 and the phone was made in Korea. I'm now unlocked but I saw no difference in performance between locked and unlocked.

I cannot use CDMA / LTE because it drops calls every 5 minutes or so as it switches between CDMA and LTE (I think that's the cause?). I lose all data and connection for about 15 seconds and everything drops. When I set it to CDMA only I have no problems.

I'm switching from a Nexus One on T-mobile to this one on Verizon. So far I'm not as happy as with T-mobile... Voice quality is horrible compared to T-mobile and the problems with LTE is bothersome as well.

All four phones we picked up have the same problem with CDMA / LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
You must be in a fringe area for LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
I really don't think this HW 10 version did anything with the radio, I did similar tests adrynalyne did.

I went to a verizon store, and compared mine to 2 display models there, both HW 9, and pretty much all 3 phones showed same signal -75 dbm on 3G, and I forgot what was 4G, but all very similar.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Right now the only for sure thing is that 10 ships with 4.0.2 and 9 ships with 4.0.1.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NintendoSpy:
Yeah, I decided to just keep my HW 9 device since nobody is really sure if there is improvement in the radios. Besides the signal, my phone has no other hardware issues so I am a bit worried I'll exchange the phone and end up with one with a messed up display/speaker.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
yeah you might get banding like I did even though it HW 10, so if everthing else working I would stick with it.

http://bit.ly/ysf0wh

http://bit.ly/yXqp4h

For some reason could not upload as attachment kept giving me error but can see what I mean.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jess086:
why doesnt someone with 10 upload it so we can make it flashable?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
We can tell you didn't read this thread ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamersipaq:
Guys, I don't know. I went in today to try to get a replacement, and they weren't willing to exchange for new since I'm out of return period. I didn't want to risk getting another 9 device with other issues, so I bailed. What they did do is call Samsung and they suggested to provision my sim and update prl and said its something they've seen a number of times fix the issues I quoted. Its something they push to you on their end while your phone is off, apparently you can't do it . Playing the I don't know what's going on role I went along with it. Ymmv, but after their update my dbm went from -87 to -75 in the same location at the same spot.

Only reason I bring this up is I had my sim activated Dec 16... not that long ago, so I'm not sure why this made such a drastic change. At home now I'm getting 2 bars of 4g when before I was stuck on 1x. I'm starting to think ver 9 vs 10 may not be the issue.... then again I might not have a clue :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamersipaq:
PS... people really need to stop this. LOL I just get over my radio woes and now all of a sudden I'm freaking out about randomly appearing hairline fractures :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trevoryour:
Alright I might be too dense to realize this is a joke and I don't get it but what hairline fractures are you talking about? Is this something radio related?

Second question, this update from Samsung, does cause issues for you/will it work if you are rooted and running a custom ROM or dos it not matter?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] itch808:
Now I'm watching this thread carefully. All this talk about a possible hardware revision has me going bonkers. I was one of the people who bought on the first day @ Verizon. I really hope Samsung/Verizon didn't screw the early adopters! I have no screen banding issues what so ever. No speaker issues. But there are occasional times my 3G/4G switch and signal are bothersome. There are times I had much better reception and could make/receive calls on my Droid Incredible that I now cannot on my Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I really think the banding that people are referring to is when you look at an all white page at a brightness of under 40%. You will see a fuzzy grey stripes going horizontally alternating between dull white and grey. I honestly think this is related to the pentile screen and completely normal. Those experiencing weird hues or color variances, that is a different story.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Well...in my wife's case, her lowest brightness has the screen washed out and too bright. It is better at lower levels, but then things get grainy. I think it must be a faulty contrast setting in the hardware? Her lowest brightness is more washed out than my max brightness.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamersipaq:
:(

See this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1425382

Well, it's an update from Verizon, not samsung.... and apparently it does the same thing that *228 would do on 3G phones, but since 4G is "GSM" and uses an SIM it just updates your SIM to the most current "book of towers"? As far as I see it can't hurt anything unless the tech at VZW notices you're rooted/non stock and makes a big deal of it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
If i look at say messaging/email/phone book, whatever background color that is, i think it like a grey/off white.

I see a vertical bar right in middle of screen, or horizontal if i switch phone around. If i go to 80% brightness it looks ok and goes away. But forget about using auto-brightness.

This should not be normal, since my previous phone did not have it.

I am actually planning on calling Samsung later today and see what they say, I might even send mine in for repair, because I know if I go the verizon route, they might send me a brand new one or refurb...and who knows how that screen will look.

My first nexus all the grays were puple..

I don't know if this because of pentile or just bad quality control, what I know is my fascinate next to me phone looks tons better except it a smaller screen. Also whites are way off on nexus, it almost looks yellow..very warm temp.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
The vertical bar is interesting, but as far as purple grays and warm temps, I would chalk that up to pentile. In fact, you can use apps out there to adjust the screen and counteract most of the effects.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
I wouldn't be so quick to chalk it up to pentile.

My wife's current device does have that purplish greys. She prefers it, oddly enough, but mine are nice and rich.

Not the greatest camera shot, but it gives you a general idea. This was side by side, both on autobrightness.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trevoryour:
I suppose I could go back to my stock + root nandroid backup but would whatever update they send be overwritten when I go back to my current ROM or isn't something hardware specific that isn't effect by ROMs?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Perhaps it was the poor camera angle, but your issues appear to be more than purplish grays. The font on the device to the left is blurry and appears slightly larger. If your picture is not lying that much, you got bigger issues than pentile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Its the camera. It was low light, no flash, and having trouble focusing. I did it to show the signal more than anything. Plus the reflection on the screens don't help.

The colors are accurate though. The graininess...not so much.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I would start with those apps on the market that screw with color. Or, try francos kernel and mess with the color settings to see if it needs tlc or replacing. Odds are you are gonna have to send it in. Your issue is purple blacks more than purple grays. My settings screen is as black as onyx. Literally like floating letter on a screen that would appear otherwise off. More craptastic bad QA on Samsung's part.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Yeah mine is like yours. Sadly, my wife prefers it this way. (She is weird.)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Hahahahaha!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trevoryour:
In the interest of keeping this thread clean so it can be used as a tool to prove to someone that this is a real problem, can everyone please keep to the one issue with the radio? We can start another thread for screen issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Sure, but if we do that, we should also have a moderator delete any and all comments regarding it being related to radio.

Its a hardware revision, not a baseband update. Hence there are multiple discussions in here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trevoryour:
I thought it was determined that the number after i515 represented the number of the hardware version. Isn't looking at the basement version the easiest way to see the hardware version?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamersipaq:
Ok, new question

So, I was on RootzWiki, and I saw a post I'm hoping that Adrenylyne can answer, I'll post the link though I'm SURE it's going to be removed, but what is the possibility that the .9 vs .10 is just a change in the bootloader? I'm really not sure about this as this kind of blindsided me:

Link:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12866-ra...ootcdma-galaxy-nexus-toroupdated-dec-23-2011/

Here is the quote:

Bootloaders can change what is displayed as your HW Revision. For instance 4.0.1's bootloader makes it display 8 & 4.0.2's will display 9. I have no idea if that number affects anything. I highly doubt it does.

Is it possible? That newer devices are just coming with a newer bootloader?

If someone is still on stock 4.0.1 can you tell us what your baseband reads?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
When I reflashed my device a day ago back to google stock, I flashed this:

bootloader-toro-primekk15

and my HW still shows 10, so I don't think that is correct at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreamersipaq:
I thought about that too

What are the chances that the flashes that we're doing are not affecting the bootloader? I'd be curious to specifically flash a 4.0.3 bootloader (or 4.0.1 for that matter) and see what happens.

I might try when I finally unlock this phone. Just curious. Perhaps the newer phones are coming with a "4.0.3" updated bootloader from samsung (even though they're on 4.0.2.......

Though I agree with you. Doesn't sound legit.

EDIT:

Missed this in your post. Oh Well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bradm23:
I just sent a VZW tech an e-mail who has helped me out numerous times in the past. I did not take the "knowing nothing" approach like someone did earlier. I told him that I knew what I was talking about and was hoping that he could look into this for me. I will keep everyone updated and post the transcript if it leads anywhere.

On a side note, I just read through this whole forum for the first time and I am curious if where the phone was made (ie: China vs Korea) effects the HW revision (9 vs 10). This would sure make sense since it would be a way for Samsung to track things like quality control.

If anyone has their original box, can you please post up these two variable to see if you pick up a trend.

I will start...:)

Hardware revision 9

Made In Korea

Edit 1: Seems like Lost Dog has HW10 and was also made in Korea... So frustrating. I am hooked to figure out what the differences are. So annoying that the early birds MIGHT have gotten older hardware that is possibly defective?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Mine is hardware revision 9. Made in Korea.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adrynalyne:
Rev 10, Korea.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] strongergravity:
10 from Korea.

I just got it yesterday, ordered from VZW's website. Hopefully the new Hardware + the more recent radios will make this one usable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chrisomnia1:
thought of that already when people started listing their version and where it was built. It it not correlated.

Someone earlier did say their hw version changed when flashing. Not sure if they checked the version when in bootloader though.