yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
Just to make I understand well.

The file from bobafuzz has to be installed to data/app?

It doesn't work if it is placed in system/app?

You say that now Google Now Voice dialer doesn't work properly anymore?

But I guess the original Voice Dialer works better?

So what's the advantage of the original Voice Dialer against the Google Now one?

Sorry for all the questions but it has to be clear to see how it could benefit to all Elegancia users :)
[HTC Sensation] Ty5982:
see if this helps

what i remove is abit vicious lol:D but could still point u in the right direction;)
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
Hi Steve,

Glad I can help at least a little! Love to make at least ANY contribution to your wonderful ROM!

I can't speak for what happens if the file bobafuzz is placed someplace OTHER than where he said to place. I just know when I followed his instructions, all was well. FYI, I simply renamed velvet.apk to bakvelvet.apk.bak.

Before, when I used my bluetooth, my phone would automatically use Google Now Voice Dialer. Never gave me a choice and no way to override it. According to bobafuzz's research, as long as velvet.apk was in system/app, it would automatically try to take over dialing duties. Now, with bobafuzz's instructions, when I used my bluetooth device, it actually gave me a choice on what I wanted to use to dial. So I chose as the default dialer YOUR dialer. As I said, this choice never existed before.

I don't know if Google Now's voice dialer still works or not. I don't use it because I don't want to. It's terrible. FYI, from day one (every since you introduced it on your ROM a while ago), it has NEVER worked well.

From my personal use, I hated Google Now's voice dialer because:

It misdialed (tried to call the wrong person) over 90% of the time. Now granted, here in Hawaii, we have a diverse population of names (Japanese, Filipino, Korean, Chinese, etc.) But YOUR voice dialer has been spot on accurate with the same names.

YOUR voice dialer works over the bluetooth device to call. I know this because I mount my phone close to my car's air conditioning and never have a problem trying to use it. When I tried Google, I know it's only available by shouting at the phone...and I have to turn off my air conditioner so that the phone can hear me.

These were the main issues for me...especially the accuracy. A voice dialer is useless if it keeps trying to dial the wrong person. Yours works almost flawlessly. Never tried using Google Now's dialer to try do other things like send text messages or launch apps. Not sure if it's capable of that. If it is, that would've been cool...but for me, the number one thing a voice dialer should do is...voice dial ACCURATELY.

Anyway I hope this helped! Let me know if you have more questions. Like I said, especially since bobafuzz bothered to investigate this, it sounds like there are other users like me who hated the Google Now voice dialer and liked yours a whole lot better. I know you're smart enough to figure out how to do this as an option during installation (for those who wish to use your voice dialer INSTEAD of Google Now's).

Thanks for helping to investigate this. Like I said I'd be happy to give you more feedback if you have more questions. Feel free!

All I know is that I'm now truly happy. Always wished I could play with Google Now but before this, I couldn't. I have found Assistant to be a very good 3rd party app though. But now I can play with both! Yayy!!!

Interestingly, I know Google Now works because earlier today, without doing anything, it automatically informed me of traffic conditions and how long it would take me to get home (in notifications). Neat!
[HTC Sensation] OneRcknMan:
There you go, no you are living in a 3D World.

Sent from my Sensation 4G

enhanced with the Elegancia Rom
[HTC Sensation] duryard:
Nice to be back on safe ground for awhile. Just installed Blitz with apex launcher.

Is there anyway to get shortcuts on the lock screen.

Tweaks say that they are on but none appear??

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] 10neke:
Hi Steve,

Late as usual, read up on the verdicts first but as my set-up has been running now I'm over the moon with smoothness and overall look and feel.

As far as I'm concerned you might retire (nononono, only in a matter of speech) It never has been as good as this. I picked out from all comments what I could use (tnx all of you) tweaked some more with RC, Seb's kernel, mod v2. and updated tweaks.

Boy, all works, blue tooth needs to be tested but I'm sure all will be well like most of my flashes.

Bottemline...................you deserve not just a drink but a whole bottle. It's on it's way.

Ty and Prinz you slave a way for all of us and a bottums up is on it's way to you 2.

chapeau and ELEGANCIA rules 10neke
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
Use this app.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31236211

Works great. Maybe you need a reboot after following the instructions.

Steve you could include it in the senseless option?
[HTC Sensation] earlgrey_44:
GNow and voice dialer

69gm has been out and about with GNow and confirms card functionality is fine - that's great. Using this new mod, the performance of GNow in Elegancia ICS now appears exactly as smooth and functional as it does in the JB Kang ROM for Sensation.

69gm's description of the performance of the two dialers reflects my experience exactly.

For clarity, the answers to the above questions are: Yes, No, it doesn't, and Not exactly.

It isn't that Google voice dialer worked with BT at first, then something changed, it's that I never saw it work decently with BT at all, as per 69gm's account. The other native ICS voice dialer worked reliably with BT before the GNow hack in Elegancia, and now it does again.

Great stuff. :victory:
[HTC Sensation] duryard:
Thanks juancubo. Works a treat :)
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
Thanks Lucky :)

Hi 10neke, I am glad you like 3.2.1 :good:
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
Hi Juan, good idea again :good:
[HTC Sensation] bobafuzz:
Google Now dialer have never work right for me, I don't know if google broke it or it got broken when people port it to ICS. I've never tried JB rom so I don't know how it suppose to behave, but on ICS the voice recognition is terrible random miss dial and whatnot. The most annoying thing is that it doesn't route the mic to the headset so you still have to say command to the phone which is not ideal for car usage.

The reason it has to be on data/app is stated above, it takes over the old Voice Dialer if it in system, but once you put it in data it gives you a choice to choose what happen when you push the bluetooth button.
[HTC Sensation] mykar3z99:
What do you think if I used PYD kernel by patcha on Blitz 3.2?
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
Thanks bobafuzz, understood, but putting it to data/app will make the widget not appearing.

So I think it is better to have the new GN in system/app and then for those who want to have the 2 choose between the 2 voice dialer can replace the updated velvet to data/app :)
[HTC Sensation] nosferatu997:
Ty, I flashed "original" Elegancia Rom, deleted most of apps in aroma (as I always do) and here's what I've got, whitout Rom cleaner. I have no idea why with your Rom I've got almost 100mb less. I remember the same situation when I flashed your resized apps, before I had like 270mb free and after flashing 220mb. I have no idea why this is happening. Maybe it's just me. Maybe someone can try it and let us now. Strange. Damn, I like those icons very much, is there any possibility to make something like theme? Just to change original icons to 3D icons?
[HTC Sensation] Prinz069:
Let the device settle down for a moment. guess you took the shot after the reboot before everything started. Go back to Task Manager again and refresh. You will see you'be be down to about 230-240MB, but it's still nice.....
[HTC Sensation] bobafuzz:
Could you tell how the widget suppose to work? I have never use it before, I do have a google search widget now after the move to data/app. Mine is a long box with google and microphone icon, if i push google it takes me to search, and I push microphone it goes to voice assistance. How is it suppose to work before?
[HTC Sensation] nosferatu997:
I know I know;) I flashed it yesterday evening. The best way would be to make 3D Rom in the same way like original Elegancia, I mean the same apps etc, with possibility to remove them in Aroma, just changing icons, is it possible?

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I used it on Sense 3.1 and I really liked his kernel. Now I'm testing sebFm kernel on my device, but I think I'll return to PYD...
[HTC Sensation] earlgrey_44:
I like it. It's fast, has no side effects, and you can mod it to favor battery.

Also, for me the best thing was flawless sweep to wake. To get that to work in Elegancia though, you need a small mod. See it here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32229803&postcount=590
[HTC Sensation] Ty5982:
it is an elegancia rom,just stripped,the platform,core & basics are still the same,so i can't explain,but im doing trial & errors now,here's a pic of mine now,with abit of use & WIFI ON & its settled for 2 days,not much difference,also,if any of the team have any ideas to what i'm doing wrong,then i'll listen to any advice,my rom is in our dropbox,so any of the team can access it,see if there's any errors etc
[HTC Sensation] nosferatu997:
Yes, I know :D I was taking about the same exact version, not stripped, with possibility to remove apps in aroma, the only difference would be icons...

As I wrote before, I had the same situation after flashing 3d icons and resized apps, before flashing, with all my apps installed, I had something like 250-240 free ram, after flashing resized apps 180-200. That was really strange for me. My Sensation is strange;) still -great work mister :D
[HTC Sensation] Ty5982:
thanks,just done a few more trials,just flashed my version again,as for task manager,its only a temp ram free,it ain't accurate,it doesn't show u background process etc,thats y i neva use it,just uploaded it for your comparison........on another note,i aint arsed,my phone is still 3D lol and liverfool drew & united just won,which is far more important;)
[HTC Sensation] Prinz069:
Yes, very nice, you can switch off apps in app drawer again :D Thats what I was waiting for
[HTC Sensation] dublinz:
@bobafuzz " Could you tell how the widget suppose to work? I have never use it before, I do have a google search widget now after the move to data/app. Mine is a long box with google and microphone icon, if i push google it takes me to search, and I push microphone it goes to voice assistance. How is it suppose to work before?"

Pictures speaks 1000 words

If you push google you will get this

if youpush microphone you will get this
[HTC Sensation] Ty5982:
what's this key lime pie all about?
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
I thought bobafuzz reported that simply moving velvet.apk didn't work? Specifically needed the file he shared to be put into the other directory?

No way to make that a choice in Aroma installer? Like "Google Now with original voice dialer" vs. "Google Now with Google voice dialer"...or something like that? With all due respect, your ROM is MUCH more functional with bobafuzz's mod IMHO.

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When I push my search button (lower right-most) it comes up with the Google Now cards fine, like your example of pushing Google.
[HTC Sensation] gustav30:
On Pegasus 3.1.0. I'm getting with stock browser "unfortunately, internet has stopped" message when using the find on page feature. Once I type a letter in, I get the error message. For kernel I'm using Sebastian 1.5.2. Can anyone confirm or reproduce this?

Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] Tomb77:
+1
[HTC Sensation] bobafuzz:
Yes the velvet.apk from the rom doesn't work for me if it's not in system, I tried moving it with titanium, es file explorer, root explorer and some random system app mover in the market, the apk will move but google now and search would break. The apk I got was from another rom that I was playing around with, it was also name velvet.apk befored I moved it with titanium and that renamed it to what it is now.

My widget is working just like yours then :D.
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
hmmm, I wonder if the velvet.apk in Elegancia can be renamed to whatever it is that yours got renamed to. Then move it?
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
Flash the attached file, should fix the problem. Please confirm :)
[HTC Sensation] itais:
Hi,

Douse the HDMI output work on Sense 3.6 ?

Thank you in advance,

Itai.
[HTC Sensation] gustav30:
Hi Steve,

Strange. No luck with that attached zip. Flashed that zip through 4EXT. Also did a cache wipe before. Still getting "unfortunately, internet has stopped" when trying to use 'find on page'. I may try flashing Rom again. It might be my phone.

If anyone else can replicate and try Steve's patch that would be great!

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] Prinz069:
Can you please try with another browser like Dolphin or Opera mini?

Opera mini works like a charm here
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
On Sense 3.6 HDMI works as it should :)

Tets V2 posted hereafter
[HTC Sensation] mykar3z99:
Yes of course... The HDMI work on my htc sensastion with blitz 3.2

Sent from Motorola XOOM MZ601
[HTC Sensation] gustav30:
Hi Steve, just flashed Browser_Fix_Test2.zip, and same problem with find on screen. (this isn't a make or break thing for me, but just looking to help solve it.) Think I should try it with stock kernel? I'm wondering if its related to Sebastian 1.5.2.

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
Don't think it is related to kernel. Could be related to GoogleNow.

Do you have it installed ? I will investigate once I get time :)
[HTC Sensation] tranceman1989:
Hello, please tell me, where links to Elegancia 3.5.0 pegasus? Thanks and ssory for my bad english!
[HTC Sensation] gustav30:
Yep, I do have GoogleNow installed.

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] Prinz069:
We're currently at 3.2.1 :)

You'll find downloads on OP
[HTC Sensation] tranceman1989:
Prinz069, Thank You Very Much :)
[HTC Sensation] itais:
Hi Steve,

Are you and the team planing to fix the HDMI out in the Sense 4.x rom ?

Thank you in advance,

Itai.

P.s.

After rom installation i get 200MB free ram, is this normal?

Thank you :)
[HTC Sensation] haran_rulez:
That's the specialty from Steve and team here ;)
[HTC Sensation] emay:
BT + copy/paste

I have flashed 4.3.2.1 and I can now longpress on any input field for copy/paste, which did not work on 4.3.1 (I did have 3D icons then, though, which I don't have now)

I also tested BT phone in my car and no problems. All in all I think this ROM behaves great. Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] sohail25feilder:
Is there any problem with google server. It is not connecting with me here in Pakistan.
[HTC Sensation] xrepo:
installation aborted

coming from 212 and tryed to flash to 213 and during install got message that Install aborted. had this happen when going from 210 to 211 so I stayed at 210 until 212 came out any ideas?

thanks
[HTC Sensation] gluonyc:
Where did you got that message? In recovery? did you check md5 checksum?
[HTC Sensation] xrepo:
sorry yes in recovery
[HTC Sensation] gluonyc:
Download the file again... must be a question of corrupted download
[HTC Sensation] philliman:
Perfect...... For me!
[HTC Sensation] Lucio81:
I did a wipe cache and a devilk cache and after I had reinstalled the rom with kernel 1.2 ghz but the sense keeps rebooting.
[HTC Sensation] gluonyc:
The mail icon is just the way it is (btw steve, I thinl this icon should be the icon for the gmail app and not the regular mail app... just my opinion ;))

Why don't you use pwr+home to take screenshot? works perfectly and no issues
[HTC Sensation] adinfsfocus:
what theme or skin aru you using???
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
Did you install the 3.24 firmware package posted HERE :confused:
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
This ONE, and i confirm it looks pretty nice :)
[HTC Sensation] philliman:
What Steve said!! +1
[HTC Sensation] xrepo:
in tracing back steps when I used the download service zip both times the checksum was differant. I just used speedy and the download went in no problem. I think that the server zip is trying to sneek in something with the download

thanks for your help
[HTC Sensation] Steve0007:
What about this patch for TMOUSers, does it enable the wifi-calling ?

Thanks to share your experience as if it works I will include it in the Rom :)
[HTC Sensation] adinfsfocus:
i dont instal the Light Version.......my phone dont move so good if i go back install 2.1.2 i have to full wipe??? in the 2.1.2 with kenel 1.7 was very very fast amd no problem and i whant to install again.(sorry for my english;))

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i install 1.728 GHz overclocked kernel for HTC Sensation and testing
[HTC Sensation] akapaul26:
Redownload the link. Maybe the file corrupt.

Sent with my Elegancia powered sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] adinfsfocus:
yap much better with 1.728 GHz from SebastianFM phone is fast and 2923 on quadrant standard is ok:)

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i have a question how to disable pattern lookup on sensation??????
[HTC Sensation] jasminka:
music player

unffortunately,music has stoped,anybody withsame problem?
[HTC Sensation] bubu23:
why when i try this theme that you showed here it only change my wallpaper but not everything like the dialer why?
[HTC Sensation] adinfsfocus:
i solved :)
[HTC Sensation] Prinz069:
Well, youmay have not eaten your whole dish :) Read what happened to Iran
[HTC Sensation] sohail25feilder:
Thanks buddy. Never knew we will be following Iran for nothing. Read complete article. Thanks a lot.
[HTC Sensation] Prinz069:
Don't want to attack you, sorry if misunderstood.....

Google has some problems in the last few days. So, your issue can be related to this. Just try again somewhen later
[HTC Sensation] emay:
BT + copy/paste

I have flashed 4.3.2.1 and I can now longpress on any input field for copy/paste, which did not work on 4.3.1 (I did have 3D icons then, though, which I don't have now)

I also tested BT phone in my car and no problems. All in all I think this ROM behaves great. Thanks!

PS. Just tested with BT audio in my car. It did start to play, but then it stopped after 5 seconds. The music app continued to play, but I could not hear it.
[HTC Sensation] Ty5982:
nothing do with the 3D icons then lol,the best way to fault find is download another rom,take the bit out,flash them over your rom,if that works,its the rom,if it doesn't fix your prob,it's your phone,we all do it;),thats y u neva see me posts questions,i always do loads of trials 1st,my friend was having probs with his browser before,he flashed another browser.apk from @#$#@ rom,that had the same fault,then he flashed steve's fix,now it works
[HTC Sensation] chc31:
Android:

[C] Cupcake

[D] Donut

[E] Eclair

[F] Froyo

[G] Gingerbread

[H] Honeycomb

Ice cream sandwich

[J] Jelley bean

__

[K] Key Lime Pie

... see the pattern? ;)
[HTC Sensation] Ty5982:
i knew that lol,but just seeing if any1 else had read up on it before i had,but its only rumours & your post still doesn't say what its about lol;)
[HTC Sensation] sohail25feilder:
It is fine mate. No misunderstandings. Your link was quite informative. Thanks for sharing.
[HTC Sensation] biggary:
You forgotten the original android, when I had my HTC Dream waaaay back in 2009, The First android (1.0) was codenamed 'ASTRO', (1.1) was codenamed 'BENDER' (god....I need to get out more lol)
[HTC Sensation] Ty5982:
ur not sayin u used to be an "astro bender" then are ya pmsl
[HTC Sensation] 69gm:
I thought 1.1 was "Petit Four"...
[HTC Sensation] chc31:
Uhhhh... oh lol my bad, im clueless too then :D
[HTC Sensation] badai:
does BT work for both phone and media for you?
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
It work for me, both in Sense 4 v3.2.1 with Faux 008b8v5
[HTC Sensation] duryard:
Do you know if this will work on AOSP lock screen. I guess I will have to re flash but chose aosp lock screen this time but to save me doing it to find it does not work on AOSP lock screen ???

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] Ulverinho:
Can anyone share pls a faux Faux 0.8b8v5?

Can't find this beta on faux site...

Thanks a lot, wanna try its powersaving
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
No. Its for the sense lockscreen

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It's an Aroma installation by yank so its in his batcave

http://batcave.rasquin.co.uk/Android/HTC/Sensation/01_kernel/faux123/
[HTC Sensation] dublinz:
I'll wait for my

{Z} Zero Carbon

:) patiently :)
[HTC Sensation] automatic365:
Thank you very much for the link.

I do have an issue though. I get stuck in boot loop when I flash the Faux kernel you linked to.

Anyone know why?

I'm using 3.2.1. Could it be the new RUU?
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
Could be, I assume that you are in Blitz or Pegasus, not in sense 4?

are you S-OFF?

Is either that, or:

You undervolt it to high, or have duplicate init.d scripts for undervolting (like one from System tuner and one from the kernel script)

A Combination of high frequencies and/or undervolting is causing you that.

If you have or remember the options you selected in AROMA will be helpful.

I have not tested blitz 3.6 3.2 and faux 8b8v5, because I am using sense 4 rom.
[HTC Sensation] automatic365:
Thank you for the response

I am using sense 4 3.2.1

I did choose -100 undervolting. Would that cause the bootloop?
[HTC Sensation] dublinz:
Yep :(

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Juancubo; All faux kernels works fine with Blitz / Pegasus version, no issue whatsoever .. In reality all kernels created for sensation are good for Blitz/Pegasus.... The diff is preferences , thank god we have few good kernel developers ....
[HTC Sensation] automatic365:
Thanks for telling me

It was the default choice I thought. It's why I chose it.

Live and learn
[HTC Sensation] dublinz:
Mate try 2 install kernel without undervolt / it should work out of box
[HTC Sensation] automatic365:
I was looking to increase battery life with this kernel. I was told UV was one of the ways to accomplish that
[HTC Sensation] dublinz:
Ok but please be advised that UV is not set & forget it is ongoing struggle preformance vs batt life .

What are you aiming for? Do u play games on phone or it is so called business use (emails, web,phone text message, navigation music)?

What is the cpu freq that you use ?

Gpu?

Governor??

i/o scheduler?

Here is my settings that give me up to 3 hours screen time

Cpu 192-1512 (qualcomm default)

GPU 2D= 228 ...3D=266 (HTC def)

i/o scheduler = noop

sd cashe size =512

Governor = xondemand

( with mpdecision and thermald)
[HTC Sensation] Ty5982:
Im a noob to uv but if u set it to high or to low u will difinately get boot loops,i found out the hard way lol,but i use seb kernel & use the reccomended uv during install & it works well,i also use system tuner to mess with a few things,but still learning about uv to suss out whats best;)
[HTC Sensation] automatic365:
Thanks to both of you. I will keep this in mind
[HTC Sensation] juancubo:
I used to undervolt, my phone can handle almost anything in frequencies and UV, but, my experience is that battery life is more affected by rogue applications, firewalls stoping sync services, some restore of apps data, than UV. But if you like to try it, then download either system tuner (which I don't like, but it is a good app) or kernel tuner (from the evo 3d forum, search a few pages back and will find a link), and trying -12.5 at a time, and run some benchmarks apps, like antutu to stress the CPU, all this without sticking the settings on boot, so you can run the phone without bootloop risks. If you get to high in UV (or low as they are negative numbers), when the phone restarts, you have a 0 UV again. After you feel confortable, then you should stick the settings running the AROMA install and choose only to recreate scripts and select the value you have already tested.