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[Windows Phone 7 General] Osso17:
Sorry.....how to apply 3G/E switch fix from Samsung Tools?

EDIT: come back (7740) whit back-up....Enable "3G Toggle" whit Samsung Tools and now update whit CAB

EDIT: Ok now i have configuration menu same the screen-shot....Thanks boril
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ren13B:
Oh I really wish they did because that's driving me nuts. I'm also having crazy things going on with mms that I hope gets resolved. I hope AT&T can roll this out soon.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mlekas:
8107 on Focus S

I went ahead with the update. My notes:

Keyboard no longer disappears, but keyboard lag that plagues the Focus S is still there (it might be better than before - I'd gotten used to it and now I only notice the lag during high speed typing).

Overall system performance feels the same; that is, still fast. :)

I don't connect to Exchange so I can't comment on the fix that was supposed to happen in 7740.

I do not have either the 3G toggle or the ability to sync with a carrier time clock. Both options might be device or carrier specific (I haven't run the Samsung utility).

When someone mentioned their device seems louder, it made me realize my phone is louder too - my system sounds have been louder, notably the sound when you charge it and reminders. Music and call volume through headphones and bluetooth are unchanged. I think Mango quieted system sounds (which I liked), and now this update has returned them to pre-Mango volume level.

I haven't tested the so-called SMS bug (because I don't want to hard reset my phone if it isn't fixed).

My guess is this release won't be sent out to all users, only users of devices or on carriers where the fixes are appropriate. I bet when they fix the SMS issue, they'll force a cumulative update. I hope that's soon.

Michael
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmian:
can anyone comment on gmail server search? Was this fixed?
[Windows Phone 7 General] slimshady322:
How would you do that? The combination of characters to cause this bug hasn't been revealed yet, has it?

At least I hope it hasn't.

But according to a tweet by Tom Warren (who was apparently involved in uncovering this bug) has confirmed that the bug has not been fixed. Also this version (8107) is from early December before the SMS bug was made public.
[Windows Phone 7 General] OndraSter:
If Google "fixes" that (fixes = implements), then yes... This is not MS's problem. Google does not offer Exchange. What they offer is some wannabe implementation of exchange that doesn't support server-side search. They provide it just on Android - and only in their proprietary application. Nor iOS, nor WM can do that either.
[Windows Phone 7 General] mmian:
Gmail server search has always worked on my old iPhone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
I don't have them either, and i'm on ATT in the USA

Music is different. I can't put my finger on it but it's not louder, but i guess on my higher quality songs i got from zune, it seems clearer on my titan. Also no click between songs.

Is it just me or do the live tiles seem to start moving faster as you get to them?

Also does your browsing on the internet (using desktop mode) seem faster? Mine does.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
More snappier. Performance

more typing accuracy.

slightly , but very slight battery life improvement

WiFi seems slightly faster now.

Te keyboard disappearing problems seems to be solved.
[Windows Phone 7 General] andreacorti:
omnia 7 (mine, at least) was already as described as "new settings page".

i always had only those options, while lg e900 was in the other mode
[Windows Phone 7 General] BRi7X:
Really!?!?! That's been #1 on my "Fix this immediately" list. AT&T started rolling this out already??
[Windows Phone 7 General] bobzero:
Speakerphone sounds louder now.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hugohabicht:
Sorry - they didn't. It worked for just one day - now I get "download incomplete" also with my Nokia. Same behaviour on all my three windows phones now...

Everything was ok before Mango :/
[Windows Phone 7 General] twenty40:
Is keyboard disappearing fixed?

Sent from my HD7 using DeepShining v6.5
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
Oops, accidentally hit the thanks button. oO Anyways, yes. The keyboard bug has been addressed in this update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] slimshady322:
Also on the LG E900 the battery indicator used to be only updated after you lock the device. With 8107, this is no longer the case.
[Windows Phone 7 General] gsidhom:
Battery enhancement

well for me, the most noticeable thing for my HD7 is battery performance...

I always had a problem with battery indicator...

now I don't so battery lasts longer than before...
[Windows Phone 7 General] MartyLK:
I think mainly 8107 is faster. It seems to load screens faster...seems to. Beyond that I haven't noticed anything new.
[Windows Phone 7 General] hoaisonongame:
Yes, it does! :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
I'm on ATT also but i didn't wait. I followed the instructions to manually install it. It disappointed me when my titan clicked and my old surround never did. Smooth transition now between songs, as it should be.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ericfine:
The keyboard fix is a major patch.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
Has anyone done to this to a T-Mobile Radar. I have one on T-Mobile prepaid and don't feel like waiting until Tango to get this release, so how easy is it to brick your phone? I have experience with Android, but I know this is a different ballgame and it's way easier to brick your phone, and I don't want to take the risk if it's too high of messing something up.

However, the keyboard accuracy fix is a must for me....just dunno what to do....
[Windows Phone 7 General] chaitanya91845:
Does this update(or the 7740 update) relock your phone? I am still stuck on 7720, and Zune says my Focus is up to date. Hence, I don't know.

Samsung Focus using Indian SIM.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
i hard resettted the phone after isntalling the update, put back all my old apps

and the battery life seems to be better than in 7740.

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i get the improvement after hard resetting th ephone, what about u?
[Windows Phone 7 General] neelbin:
how to update?

how can i update to this?? any solutions??
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
I notice the quality of display is better now.

Text is sharper and colors are more refined.
[Windows Phone 7 General] bobzero:
I wonder if perhaps this 8107 update is the "Tango 1" update? Tango 2 could be the 87xx builds?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
if I am correct tango is meant for low end devices. maybe this is it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] voluptuary:
If anything it's mango v2. The lumia 900's info page describes the os as such.

http://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/lumia900/specifications/
[Windows Phone 7 General] bobzero:
Isee what you mean:

"Windows Phone 7.5 Mango Commercial Release 2 (Mango + LTE)"

IS that Tango 2 I wonder?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
its nothing but mango ver 2 . it still says Mango, not tango

Just with LTE support + mantenance fixes added
[Windows Phone 7 General] irfanbari:
Upgrading unlocked O2 HTC Mozart to mango

Hi I have HTC Mozart from O2 that has been unlocked to work on all GSM networks.

Now I want to know that if I upgrade it to 7.10.8107 or so, will it gets locked to the O2 network or this update through zune has no effect on it.

Thanks
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
if u want to play safe, do an offline update ( cab method)

But so far reports say it doesnt lock the device using cab method

as for zune method, i am not sure.
[Windows Phone 7 General] chaitanya91845:
I will be more clear this time. Is there a way to retain your developer unlock when you update to either 7740 or 8107?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Foxnov1990:
Everything is working and I noticed a very slight battery increase, and a slightly better keyboard (recognising the input)

Also the scrolling on my applist seems to go smoother.

Thats it for now, hoping to "discover" more cool things.

I updated using the cab method seeing as I have an unbranded HTC HD7.

Updated from 7740 => 8107

It was interop and developer (student) unlocked and nothing has changed towards that. Can still sideload apps with and without interop.

So you're safe to update legally or the cab way without relocking.

Good luck!
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
I did this on my HTC Radar an I was hoping the keyboard input recognition would be better, but it's still the same for me. Can you tell me how you updated, what device you used, and exactly what you did? I think I updated mine right and everything, but my keyboard accuracy touch input detection is still bad compared to NoDo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Foxnov1990:
I updated using the following link, seeing as Heathcliff74 always finds the best stuff with the easiest method :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1306415

This is exactly how I did it, the link says the same but explained way more detailed.

1) downloaded "Version and Language by heathcliff74.xap" to see what languages I have on my phone

2) downloaded and unzipped: "WP7 update cab sender"

3) downloaded the patch (first link that says "OS UPDATE 7.10.8107.79") and all the language packs that my phone supports

4) put those files (5 alltogether in my case) in the unzipped folder under/next to the .bat file

5) installed the folder "if needed install this tool" inside the unzipped folder

6) then ran "WP7 update cab sender.bat" with phone connected and zune closed.

7) pressed "s" to deploy the patch

8) wait till the program says its done (about 5-10min)

9) phone reboots automaticly

10) DONE, you now have 8107, couldnt be much easier :)

For clarification, I did this on my HTC HD7 with patch 7740.

Do note that you have to update gradually, so you cant go from 7720 to 8107 without installing 7740 first (sounds logically)

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I do have to say I havent used NoDo for that long but I noticed a drop in touch detection with my keyboard with updating to Mango.

However it's slightly better in 8107 than it was in 7740, its still not what it used to be in NoDo, but I can say that it doesn't bother me anymore now.

It annoyed the hell outa me since 7720->7740.

But I think / hope the new update Tango / Apollo will be that "fix".

Hope that helped mate :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
Thanks so much. This is how I updated as well, except I was on 7720. I put the 7720-7740 cab in the folder as well, along with the language packs and 8107. When I installed, it only had to do one update (I guess it just rolled them all into one little update), because when I was finished it said I updated successfully (checked settings as well and nothing is broken and haven't had anything mess up on me). I agree that the keyboard just isn't on NoDo's level anymore, especially in landscape mode. I remember hating the keyboard on my Arrive because the keyboard in landscape mode in NoDo was so good. Now it is perhaps SLIGHTLY better (and I even think that I'm experiencing this through placebo and just taking my time typing more), but I'm with you in hoping that the keyboard will return to the way it was in NoDo.

I haven't had a chance to really test battery life extensively, but I have had it on my Radar for a couple of days and haven't really noticed any change. Who knows...maybe I was just expecting too much when I heard the first reviews of the patch :/

Also, when you say your app list scrolls smoother, what did you mean by that? I know it's like "duh....it scrolls smoother" but like was your app list scrolling choppy before the patch. I'm wondering if the only people really noticing changes are people with 1st Gen devices...

EDIT: Take it back....this has done nothing for me. My keyboard still disappears, so perhaps that's why they stopped rolling it out because it doesn't work? The only difference I've noticed is that my Twitter contact tiles are actually updating faster now. Before, they would rarely update with new updates. For example, I have WPCentral pinned to my start screen. When a new article would pop up on the site and they would tweet it, it would take a long time before my live tile would update to reflect that new article. When I would click on the live tile, the twitter status would be updated, but my live tile would still have old news. With 8107, this has improved greatly, as it has been updating faster and more timely. Other than that, this ROM has done nothing for me. Keyboard feels the same, and it still disappears. Again, I feel this is the reason this has not rolled out (even to unlocked unbranded devices) because Microsoft caught that it doesn't work and halted the update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Foxnov1990:
Well I dont know, the scrolling in my applist (having about 50-60apps) went rather bad, everything blurred out and it ran rather choppy indeed, I couldnt really make up where I was (if i scrolled fast), except for letter recognition. Now this annoyed the hell outa me and its been like that since 7720.. Now it scrolls pretty smooth and I can keep reading what it says (ofc fast).

So dunno if it was the 8107 in particular but its fixed for me, and I'm really happy about it.

Also I was really pissed off with the keyboard disappearing, I text about 30 a day and every single day I had the keyboard disappearing multiple times, even occasionally multiple times during 1 text. After the same "routine" today nothing has disappeared on me and its quite the relief :)

The battery I havent tested fully yet, I've just installed the patch, rebooted and plugged it in the charger. When it came off it said "1 day 5h" remaining. That is 3 hours more then what I normally have.

(I know it still sucks but if I hard reset my device I gain up to 14 hours in the battery saver menu but I'm just waiting for the Interop Unlock for HTC devices v2, the v1 doesnt work since 7720)

Although the battery life increase may be a placebo effect same with the keyboard sensitivity (could be in my head or just the one charge) I notice quite the difference in the other 2 things mentioned above, especially seeing as they pissed me off before.

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Now about installing the patch, I didnt know you were still on 7720 (I have an unbranded HTC HD7 and I have a 7740 with Tethering from Zune update,hmm..)

If you wanna do it the correct way you best dont put everything together in one map for updating, things can get messed up that way.

Best is if you put the 7740 with the .dat file, run the update cycle ive mentioned above. Then delete the 7740 from the folder and put the 8107 + (all!) language packs in there, run the cycle again and when the phone reboots you should have a succeeded 8107 on it.

Again, my HTC HD7 is an unbranded unlocked phone 1st gen device and from what I see Microsoft succeeded in fixing the "major" bug that they put in the speclist for 8107, the keyboard.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
Thanks for all your helpful responses. I'm going to go ahead and restore my phone to my backup, hard reset and then start over. I'm going to download all the language packs (last time I only downloaded the five I saw on my display language settings section) and do it how you said do it.

I wish I could I just find the stupid stock HTC Radar .nbh file to flash it to complete stock and start over from there. The link that is on the xda Radar forum is broken and I can't find the file. If anyone has it, please PM me or shoot me the link.
[Windows Phone 7 General] All-Star:
I've updated my device now.

Can't see any big difference to my "old" 7740.

Tethering and Hidden WiFi Network is still missing.

About the battery life , i have to test it some days first , then i can report about it.

About the keyboard-bug , i noticed it on 7740 every time i wrote in Whatsapp , at the moment i don't saw any bug , but still testing , maybe something comes maybe not , let's see and wait.

The Update process took about 10minutes , because i was already on 7740.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
Now I'm convinced I'm doing something wrong because my updates only take like 1-2 min tops...and that's coming from 7720. With the backup time included it took a little longer, but as far as how long it takes for the bar to go from the left of my phone screen to the right of my phone screen it only takes like 1 min while updating....
[Windows Phone 7 General] All-Star:
I'm not telling the whole truth :D

For me aswell it took about 3-4minutes , but i wrote 10min , because i thought i'm doing it wrong.

But i read some posts and a lot of member saying that they needed about 3minutes aswell , so i know that i did i right and not wrong.

Maybe someone know a method to activate Tethering without flashing a Vodafone Germany ROM ?

Not USB - Tethering , like on the iOS "HotSpot" .
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
Yea I reinstalled it and it still only took like 2 mins.

However, something is different with Zune. Before, when I would check for an update in the settings in Zune it wouldn't show my backup as being available. Now, it shows my backup as being available in Zune. Hmm...weird...perhaps I did do something different this time?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Foxnov1990:
First off the update on my device took 283sec (approx 4.5min)

I say/said 5-10 min because sometimes if you have to download and deploy a lot of language packs for any reason it takes longer. I only had 4 language packs to download.

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Now secondly what I did notice when I did my update was that before (7740) it showed that I had a backup from a week ago.

After the patch update (8107) I plugged it in, and when I searched in Zune for an update it showed the backup / restore file briefly, it disappeared and when I went to the folder of the backup, it was empty.

So propably a Zune + not legit update = delete backup-file?

Thank god for Acronis so I could recover the backup, and copied it afterwards to my external so that I always have a spare in case this happens again, so do note everyone who tries to do this, it "can" happen, copy your backup file first! ;)

(it shouldnt have happened with me as far as i know but it did :s)
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
I'll make sure to get my backup, but I don't know where to find it. I wonder why the times are varying for how long the download takes? I went back to my restore and wiped my phone completely, and then installed 7740 (only one cab). It succeeded, and then I moved that cab to another folder and replaced it with 8107 and all of the language cabs from the front page (all of them under the 8107 update). Then I ran the update and it still didn't take long this time, but it did show my backup in Zune (never did that before). Also, the phone feels slightly snappier, but the keyboard remains the same. I haven't had it disappear on me yet, but I've only been running it for like 1 hour and a half lol so too early to tell. It does feel a little better than 7720 and 7740 like you said, but not by much, and still no NoDo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Foxnov1990:
Its under c:\users\[your name]\appdata (hidden folder)\local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update

The name of the backup(folder) should look something like "f3874e8d - c6f37f88 - c1504a27 - f0452346"

Good luck finding :)

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But no indeed, it's still no NoDo keyboard wise, which is quite sad.

I'm glad ya got it fixed in the end though :)

Although if you have they keyboard on for 1.5h non stop (which you propably hadnt) it should have disappeared if the bug was still there (background agents refresh every 30min, which made the keyboard vanish at that exact time)

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And why it varies in time to deploy varies from phone to phone and the amount of language packs you have to deploy.. the more packs, the longer it takes.

Also some phones appear to be in a freeze state for the first 10min cause of the stream of inc data to the phone at once. It depends on many situations rly.

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On topic though: my conclusion is, if you are really annoyed by the keyboard bug, deploy it, if you're not... dont go through all the trouble cause the rest of the changes are very minimal.
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
Well I got it installed correctly (I think lol) do I'll just keep it on here until the official update comes out (if it does). Thanks for all your help. I passed the word about the keyboard onto windows phone support on twitter and they said they will pass the word along to the team (I pray they are being honest).

I think the decreased accuracy comes from the new technique they said they were using in Mango to predict what keys you are going to hit next when you are typing fast. That's cool technology and all, but I just wish they would not muck with the keyboard. There was nothing left to improve IMHO and they perfected the first time. The keyboard was even better than (dare I say it) iOS's keyboard (and I thought nothing could top that keyboard)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
For me the last update fixed the disappearing keyboard bug and accuracy is back as it was before mango. (in nodo it was very good - mango was ok but you could tell it wasn't the same)
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
Do you use your phone in landscape mode alot, and do you type fast or slow? In portrait mode its good enough, but when I turn the phone sideways the accuracy is terrible on my Radar. I can't type one sentence without having to check for errors.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
I don't use it in landscape as much as i have a titan which has a big screen. tomorrow i have an admin meeting which i use it in landscape to take notes. I'll take notice and report back. Before i got a case for my titan i had problems though. Ended up part of my thumb would brush near the side when i was reaching for keys and it would appear to not respond to the key i was pressing. My case for it took care of that and that is when i realized what was causing it. It only raised my thumb like less then a mm but it fixed it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] All-Star:
I'm glad that i've done a Backup one day before "forcing" 8840 on my Optimus 7.

I made a Backup and copied to my external Hard-drive.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ROCOAFZ:
I used it for a good hour at least during a meeting today in landscape mode.. It was flawless. I am around a medium typer... Not a speed one, but fast enough to keep up with the meeting. Are you using a screen protector? i find sometimes they can mess with the accuracy. The Reallook clear ones i got recently though feel like the regular screen (and the don't scratch woot! as my last ones were scratched up every 3 days)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Nettwerk:
Irfanbari, there isn't sense to get faster update with unlocked phone for all GSM networks. Basicly your phone still branded. You must debrand your phone, than you will get update.

Sent from my TITAN X310e using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] jrdatrackstar:
I do not use a screen protector, so interference there. Perhaps it's just my Radar screen (I know it uses Corning Gorilla Glass), or a specific HTC Radar touchscreen driver that needs to be created/mucked with then? I'm just trying to figure out why some people are saying they notice NoDo level accuracy, where as I'm only noticing slight (VERY SLIGHT) accuracy increase, but not to where it was close to NoDo's level (maybe SLIGHTLY, but still enough to where I wish I had a keyboard, whereas in NoDo I hated my Arrive's keyboard.....). Maybe it is a 2nd gen vs 1st gen thing type of update, but the accuracy felt equally of in Mango between my Arrive, HD7, Samsung Focus, and Radar devices I've had.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Magpir:
though thte keyboard accuracy has improved, its nowhere near nodo accuracy
[Windows Phone 7 General] adesonic:
Just forced the update on to my unbranded Titan using the network disconnect trick, first impressions are everyting seems the same except keyboard no longer disappears, modt of the changes are under the hood so I wasn't expecting to see much.
[Windows Phone 7 General] All-Star:
Any method to go back to 7740 and do the Update with Zune ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
If you have a backup left of 7740 you can use this. Otherwise you can always flash a 7740 ROM.