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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] k1ng617:
I've been wanting to buy a Note so I've been actively scanning prices and they have fluctuated a lot lately. From the middle of Dec prices for brand new international models were around 630-670. Since after Christmas prices have jumped up to around 690-750. Even after the announcement they have stayed pretty stable both on eBay and Amazon.

I think the supply of international models is drying up, because Amazon recently changed their estimated stock to arrive in 1-2 months. It might be because of unexpectedly high demand and also because they need to produce enough US versions for its imminent launch.

My guess is that prices will stay elevated for the near term, but slide as the US launch gets closer. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ocedion:
well this sucks! it stinks! Because i'm with t-mobile, I'm not the biggest fan of at&t...but I might just have to swallow my pride and switch. T-mobile is always behind on getting high end phones...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
I will be getting this regardless of chipset unless the price drops on the international version.

Sent from Steve Jobs' iPhone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] drpal181:
I was hoping the sprint rumor was true. I do not see att releaseing devices that can out class their flagship Iphone without dumbing it down. I would wonder when the LTE coverage would be expanded. I live in an area that in not lte and even the 3G is weak. It would make more sence to buy the internatonal verson since i would have to pay full price anyway. Other thing would be if att releases updates in a timely manner. It many be many months after samsung releases thier updates.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] dscline:
Except everyone would disable this in fear that the background data usage would put them over the limited AT&T data plan.

Huh? Why would AT&T care about whether or not it outclasses the iPhone? They don't make the iPhone. It's not even an exclusive for them any more. In fact, if they're the only US carrier to pick up the Note, you'd think they'd want it to look better than the iPhone. But realistically, I don't see why anyone would expect this to be sifnificantly different, physically, than the Korean LTE version. It'll have AT&T's bloatware on it of course, but why would they, or Samsung, want to reinvent the wheel?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bigmout:
You aren't at all concerned this will be more of an issue given the Note's size? I like the capacitive buttons, but this does strike me as a design flaw given how big the Note is relative to other phones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] deeken:
I am soo getting this thing!!!! I can't wait for this phone. I know the community will create some nice ROMs for it so I don't care what it comes with out of the box. Holy ****, I haven't been this excited for a phone in ages.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] frankic:
Release Date Anyone?

Anybody have the inside scoop on possible release date? We know they mentioned a couple of weeks and the possible Feb 14th date but does has anyone heard anything more concrete? Anyone have a cousin that works for AT&T that shed some light on this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] eroracing:
I work for at&t but still have no idea...... Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reinbeau:
A warning

We're all excited that the Note is officially coming to AT&T, however, in our excitement, let's keep the language appropriate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] frankic:
Too funny. Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] deymayor:
Thinking of getting the AT&T version by selling my Note now. Not having any type of warranty scares me each day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] gordec:
Speaking like a true AT&T employee. :) J/K
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] sirrdeezy:
I sold mine for that reason I'm getting the Att note for warranty and lost and stolen purposes I would do the same if I was u warranty for a unlocked phone is gonna b hell I had a major problem when my HTC hd2 stop vibrating and I had the telstra version so I learned my lesson even though I'm very careful with my phones
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] macwilson:
I wonder how much the they will cost with a 2 year contract?

What kind of range do the phones have?

I would guess around $200 to $250. Does that sound right?

Or am I way off here :confused: ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reinbeau:
I've heard as high as $399. I hope not, because at that price I won't be getting one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
Why did you buy it if that issue bothers you so much? You can buy aftermarket insurance for an International GNote for lost or stolen or damaged devices.

HTC was the issue there! lol!

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Isn't the syrocket 249.99? I doubt the GNote will be under 299.99. They could run a special. I got my skyrocket for 149.99 on launch day in San Antonio.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rockky:
Afte horrific experience with Sprint sitting on updates desperately needed by our 4G Touch, I broke my contract and vowed never to get another carrier phone if I can help it.

Back on ATT with Samsung updates aplenty.

If you can afford it, avoid the ATT device like the plaque.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] E_man5112:
Assuming the AT&T note is about $300 (which I expect) I'd be willing to make a deal in trade.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] deeken:
A $199-$299 price tag would be reasonable. As much as I want this phone I'm not sure if I'd pay any more than 3 bills. The Skyrocket HD is also being released by AT&T, I might go for that if it is considerably cheaper.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
Just saying, it makes not much sence to have the regular skyrocket and the skyrocket hd. They should have just released the hd, that is going to be really bad for all those people who got the regular skyrocket lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] maxh:
I have no problem with AT&T releasing multiple great phones in rapid succession. I just wish they didn't take 3 months to figure out how to gimp them and where to put their logo. Seriously, if they'd release them unchanged from the manufacturer's original model at the same time the rest of the would gets them, I'd even be willing to pay a premium.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
I agree. Also, if you have not checked the att website, they are suprisingly advertising these phones already.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] deeken:
You ain't kidding. They are making no secret of the new phones they are unleashing in the near future:

http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/ce...73P1!903943-1-1&rel=nofollow&fbid=6Ecq4OIfzQG

They are adding some sweet lookin' phones to their arsenal. Even WP7 is jumping on the LTE bandwagon.

Still, I'll take the Note. Man I hope hurry up and get it out already.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] hpchiu:
SAMSUNG LOGO Uncoordinated.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] borijess:
Anyway to remove the logos? Or are they under the glass.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Croak:
Under glass, and impossible to remove. You could, however, get a replacement display assembly from the international version. It'll only set you back about $250. But hey, you'd have a spare. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] deymayor:
I see it being offeeed for $299, and $199 on non-lte areas

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A damn proud Galaxy Note owner.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Croak:
I'm guessing it will be very close to regular high end phone prices. Very close.

It's competitively priced compared to a "regular" high-end smartphone when purchased retail, I don't see why it'd be a lot more if you're determined to latch on to the subsidy teat.

TL;DR, $199 for the subsidy serfs, $650 no-contract.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rockky:
A note:

AT&T's Samsung Galaxy CAPTIVATE....just got GINGERBREAD.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ukdutypaid:
Guys n Gals, can you help me put this one to bed, once and for all.

Which chipset is/should (on paper, even) be better/faster.

Comparing release info...

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4374&idPhone2=4135

ATT LTE version 4 buttons

Qualcomm MSM8660 Snapdragon Dual-core 1.5 GHz Scorpion

International version one hard button

Exynos CPU Dual-core 1.4 GHz ARM Cortex-A9

Doesn't that mean that the ATT version should be faster, better, smoother.....

Or am I simply blinded by the higher number. All 0.1 GHz of it. Now don't start laughing at me. You know what we're all like when we see a processor with a higher GHZ...

(S2... S3 by the way?)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] tommydaniel:
The reason why it's clocked higher is because it doesn't perform as well as the Exynos. Just like the GSII performs better than the two version at Tmo and ATT running the Qualcomm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] maxh:
The Exynos is definitely better/faster. There's more to a CPU than clock speed. One way to think of it is the Exynos gets more done in each clock cycle than the Snapdragon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ukdutypaid:
Guys, thank you both.. Just goes to show the moral of the tale of being a foolish number (w)hore..........

There's no LTE in the UK (EU?) yet anyway. We still use cogs, springs n steam, don't ya know....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bwhitfield24:
Were you able to sign up to receive email notification about the devices? I actually tried and got an error....

Tell me about online deals from AT&T

We are sorry. Due to system restrictions, we are unable to opt you in to receive wireless offers from AT&T.

(*) Required Field

Usually you have a problem with getting rid of spam emails that you're signed up for automatically, not problems with signing up for stuff..... lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] reinbeau:
I signed up months ago, and just got my first e-mail, about the lower end phones, not the Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] boxerlover02:
I just wish they would quit the games and give a date that's all I ask for. Just a date that I can have this thing and get rid of this dell streak once and for all!!! So tired of this thing its not even funny!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Namuna:
The popular answer seems to be that Exynos is better (because the MSM8660 is 'based' on Cortex-A8 architecture)...But the higher clock compensates and just because it's 'based' on the A8 does NOT mean it IS the A8. I haven't seen any benchmarks to prove or disprove one way or the other.

Another thing, the MSM8660 has the Adreno220 GPU while the Exynos has the Mali400...Now that's the flip-side with the Mali400 being the older tech and Adreno200 regarded as the superior chip.

I wish some reputable site would put this question to rest already and do a head-to-head...Because to me, one wins the CPU and the other the GPU and overall that's a wash.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
I just signed up last night and just got confirmation i signed up
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
Lol! Why bother!? I'm still waiting for my notification email from AT&T about the release date/information of GS2. Mind you that phone was already released back in 10/4/2011.

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Let's put this BS to rest.

CPU benchmark here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/14

Note, I don't believe at the time of review, there is 1.5Ghz Snapdragon phones. So take the scores of HTC Sensation (1.2GHz Snapdragon) and get the idea how clock to clock, the A8 compares to A9.

GPU benchmark here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17

Other than the triangle throughput, Mali400 smoked Andreno 220 in all other categories. And iPad2 GPU smoked everyone else.

Also note: the review is on Samsung Galaxy S 2 using 1.2Ghz Exynos CPU. GNote uses 1.4Ghz Exynos CPU.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] p51d007:
I've still got my Streak in the box....I miss it, except when I need to get to something and have to WAIT for it to make up its mind to run something.

You'll love the snappy feel of the note!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
Now guys, i have one question. Between the sammy devices with the qualcomm, do you think they will be related enough so porting can be done inbetween?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] emcnelly:
I don't think that it is possible because of the differences in CPU. But I'm hoping that I'm wrong?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
Remember these are not just CPUs. They are APU which includes a lot of other hardware on the same chip as well. So the drivers are quite different.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] emcnelly:
Thank you for clearing that up. I figured with the completely different chipset there was no chance oh well. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
So, I need to learn how to code and build ROMs because I'm getting the AT&T version unless I find a good deal on the international version and tax refund is good enough. I'd love to not sign a new contract but money is tight ATM. Currently on 4G unlimited, and don't care much about LTE.

Sent from Steve Jobs' iPhone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] TopOfNewYork:
Copped mine last week, wasnt going to take the LTE At&T version plus wanted hard button for ICS

it arrived today (from Hong Kong) its pretty great thus far tho I cant wait for ICS, gingerbread feels dated to me already

might flash the beta tomorrow...probably will never buy a phone from a carrier again just to spite them...i'll never sign one of those contracts it just doesnt work for people who want options

I expect to get 16 months out of this phone b4 I upgrade again
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] DeRock13:
Here's to hoping I get a good tax refund. Been a slave too long to the carriers.

Sent from Steve Jobs' iPhone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Croak:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17

And here's another, though the Exynos S2 is obviously clocked at 1.2 instead of the Note's 1.4GHz.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/505?vs=489
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] TopOfNewYork:
@Croak Im no expert compared to the big dogs at xda

but its my understanding that they are both arm chips right? now samsung makes its own chips so it can customize the gpu (exynos)?

Now thats my basic understanding....as I know it...they both benchmark very close...the exynos chip is better period so att&t is going to tick up the clock a tick to try to minimize the difference? If thats the situation we in then I wouldnt worry

Or at least as I see it...the only thing that matters is that at the end of the day you are going to overclock ur device right?

why worry im sure a overclocked at+t will perform like a stock international no problem...even if you dont overclock it the difference isnt that huge

I wouldnt obsess to much about the clock rate by the time we can actually get some serious 3d gaming that is worth it...your going to be onto the next devices with a quad core

forgive me if I totally got something key wrong and please correct me I dont mind

I got the international version bc I never intended on going with a contract so at the end of the day it just makes sense for me to buy unlocked and not wait for USA to take forever to get us the hot ish
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
It's like saying original Pentium 1 and Core i7 are both x86 intel chips.

Arm is a chip design company. It doesn't manufacture chips. It simply license the design to other companies to make the ARM CPU.

Snapdragon is based on older Cortex A8 design. Exynos is based on newer Cortex A9 design. Different generations.

The 1.5Ghz Snapdragon barely matches 1.2Ghz Exynos. To match the 1.4Ghz Exynos used in note, it needs a much faster Snapdragon. Unfortunately, 1.5Ghz is all you have today.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Croak:
Thing is, Qualcomm has "tweaked" the v7 design on the Snapdragon line...it does some things much faster than the A9-based cores from Samsung (and TI). It is actually much more "customized" than Exynos in regards to how much it differs from ARM reference designs.

The Adreno 220 in the APQ8060 is also quite capable, easily as fast as the well-regarded PowerVR SGX540, and as the above linked benchmarks show, faster than the Mali-400 in some aspects.

I own a Galaxy Tab 8.9 LTE that uses the Qualcomm chipset. I've overclocked the hell out of it (1.93GHz) and it scores higher on Antutu benchmarks than my 1.7GHz overclocked N7000 Note.

Can't quite compare apples to apples in smoothness, since my Note is running 2.3 and my Tab 8.9 is running 3.2, but in day to day application usage, and in media consumption, the Qualcomm device does very well.

If the only Note I could get was the LTE version, I'd get it. And I'm pretty sure that if I could have walked into my carrier (Telus) and bought the LTE on a 3-year contract for $199, I would have SERIOUSLY considered that as opposed to paying $700 for my N7000.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] ckyllr:
Croak, are you saying that that you would have gone with the LTE version if given the choices now? Lets asume that LTE with 2 year contract will go for $199 (does anyone think it will be higher? like $299) vs. $700 unlocked version.

That's the predicament I am in right now... what to do...what to do... $500 or even $400 difference is huge... and I don't mind contract prices...I'm locked with with AT&T till I get a different job.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
LTE network right now is much less congested than HSPA+ network. So if you have LTE in your area right now, you should get better and more consistent data speed at the cost of battery life.

The cost difference is more than just $400. As you should know Samsung does not offer ANY warranty in US for international phones. So, if anything goes wrong, you will have to rely on the seller to get the warranty work for you (by shipping your phone out of US) or whatever 3rd party warranty service you purchased. The possibility of need warranty service for any Samsung phones are higher than others. For AT&T version, you have the standard 30-day return/exchange and 1-year warranty.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Croak:
I'm saying I would have seriously considered it to "save" $500 out of pocket, and if the N7000 didn't exist I would not hesitate to buy the i717.

But since the N7000 does exist there are some things that rule the LTE model out, none of it related to the Qualcomm SoC:

1. Lack of custom firmware/mod support, and lack of ability to play with Samsung "leaked" beta tests, since the LTE version is and will always be a carrier-locked device. Go look and see how many "leaked" versions of firmware are out there for Samsung AT&T devices. Last time I counted, there was NONE, just copies of the official releases.

2. I really really really like a physical home button.

3. I really really really dislike 3 year contracts.

4. I had $700 to spare.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
Both AT&T Captivate and AT&T Galaxy S2 had multiple leaks of the unofficial AT&T firmware. Some are beta builds. Some are official release builds leaked couple months before AT&T release.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
Foxbat:

I have owned three Samsung phones and currently own two and have not needed any warranty service on any. Why do you say they might need warranty service more than others?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
I have owned 7 Samsung phones, 2 or 3 of them require warranty services for broken parts over the time. I also have two Samsung DVD/BD players. Both have various issues (some hardware some software) out of box.

Not to mention my Samsung Captivate has the defective GPS from day 1. Since majority of the Captivate has faulty GPS, I didn't even both to get warranty service on it.

And my first Samsung phone 10 years ago litterally broke into pieces a few days after my 1-year warranty expired.

Samsung is not known for quality manufacturing, IMO.

So, if you think you think you can buy a Samsung phone without the warranty, think again. I'm not saying all Samsung phones are defective. But certainly you have a much higher chances to need it.

OK, to give you more details about my Samsung phone experiences:

1. First one disintegrated a few days after 1-year ownership.

2. Second one is Samsung BlackJack1 which has an internal antenna separation problem that AT&T did a massive recall on it.

3. Third one is Samsung BlackJack2 which has the miniUSB port broke after 6 months or so.

4. Had another Samsung BlackJack2 which always has something rattling inside, like a loose srew or something. Fortunately this one lasted but the scrolling wheel started to no functioning well toward end of the ownership.

5. Samsung Jack. This one lasted ok.

6. Two Samsung Focus. Both are fine although a lot owners reported microUSB port broken. Some even caught on fire (search YouTube).

7. Samsung Captivate. GPS never worked. Well known issue.

7. Samsung Galaxy S2. So far so good.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rockky:
The Samsung of 2011-2012 bears little resemblance to Samsung 2010 or before...at least in the smartphone division. They poured resources into that division and it shows.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] foxbat121:
I'm not talking about phone designs. I'm talking about strictly the manufacturing process, or the lack of QA. If you look at how many ppl have problems with (especially the screen) with Samsung Skyrocket, your above statement simply has no base.

Here is how Samsung factory QA inspection works:

1. Pick a phone.

2. Turn it on.

3. If it turns on, it passes QA.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Ryanscool:
The infuse has also had a ton of leaks. We are supposing the official is coming because the leaks have stopped. (By the way we are just waiting to for gingerbread still lol).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] planoman:
Although I hear what you are saying, you should not condemn a brand as unreliable based on your anecdotal experience. Just as I should not say they are the best based on my experiences.

I googled Samsung cell phone reliability and was looking at a PC Magazine 2009 survey of cell phones. There were hundreds of responses from all the cell phone makers on ATT, Sprint and Verizon. They did not have enough T Mobile responses to produce any data. Many different categories were surveyed. When you looked at "required repair" Samsung was tied with Motorola with the lowest rate. Lower than iphone, Blackberry, LG, Sony Ericsson & Nokia. Of course this did not control for the fact that Samsung sells more phones than many of these other companies. They are now the number one cell phone manufacturer so their quality has probably improved.

Not really trying to start a debate, but several people have said as fact (you did say in your opinion) that Samsung needs more repairs and they might, but the data in this survey does not support that statement. I have not had any issues with my Samsung phones or anything else I own from Samsung including TV's, Blu Ray's, washer & Dryer and Refrigerator. (Knock on wood!)

Just my .02 cents on the topic. Not trying to persuade anyone to get a Samsung phone without a warranty but I did not think twice about buying an International GNote based on my experiences with Samsung. I did buy a damage and loss protection plan however.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] rockky:
Wouldn't have touched a Samsung phone a few years ago.

They made a massive smartphone focus in 2010...and beginning with G2, games been over.

Current Samsung haters : catchup.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] bkeaver:
I hear ya piss and moan about Samsung yet that is all I am seeing you get and come on your basing this opinion off of several black jacks whether it be 1 or 2 doesn't matter, captivate and a focus. Come on. I do see you have a S2 and so do I. So you gotta see the difference between quality with the S2 and the others you had. I wouldn't had touched the majority of Samsung you listed.

I for one have never purchased a warranty with any of my phones and have never needed them. I have had a few samsungs such as captivate, infuse and now S2. Didn't need them with any of those.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] veekay666:
after vibrant i will never buy any thing but the international version from samsung.