yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Acer Iconia A500] internetpilot:
I don't have a full understanding of all this myself, but I *believe/think* that the A500 is already moving apps to the SD card -- the internal SD card. The 8, 16, or 32gb of memory that came with whatever model of A500 you purchased is considered the internal SD card, whereas the micro sd card slot is considered the external SD card. Your tablet has 1gb of RAM, which in phone terms is thought of as internal or system memory, like your (and my) EVO 4G has 512mb of RAM. Since the EVO doesn't have any internal SD card, in order to run the newer, larger footprint ROMs we have to use an apps2sd type utility to move as much as we can to the external micro SD card in the EVO 4G.

If you're running out of internal memory in your A500, you can move some data that seems to default there. This happens a lot with apps that aren't really designed for tablets because these apps think that your internal storage is your external micro SD card. I moved all my photos, music, and eBooks from internal storage (where they defaulted) to my external micro SD card. Now I'm only using around 4gb out of the total 16gb that came with my model of A500, and I have tons of apps, games, etc installed. Moving the data barely put a dent in my 32gb external micro SD card, which I mostly use for 720p movies/videos.

Anyone please feel free to correct me about Honeycomb tablet memory handling above!
[Acer Iconia A500] cruise350:
It's a limitation of Honeycomb not the tablet. Hopefully ICS when it's released soon will solve this problem. I don't know why google designed the tablet specific OS Honeycomb like this it was stupid. There are several work around programs like GL to SD that work so so. I had GL to SD installed and it severely slowed down my tablet so I got rid of it. My first A500 I bought was the 8gb version which I returned a week later after buying the 32gb unit. The 8gb just didn't cut it without being able to take advantage of the sd card for game data.
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
Thread belongs in q&a section not dev sorry all

Ok sorry but my testing with the gl to sd app...

the order of chaos game i used that app to move it.. The game took forever to load and ping times went so High you could not play the game..

I Have a pny class 10 16 gb sd card.. tested to get about 8.7 mb transfur rate. and that is about average on most so called 10 mb (class10 cards)

my tablet runs very smooth with no apps running in background.

so i DO NOT RECOMEND THESE APPS.. Just my openion dont bash me if yours is diffrent.. i also dont understand how people are filling up the 16 gb tablet.. that alone has to be slowing your tab down...

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[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
You're confusing RAM and FLASH storage. Many older Android devices have a very small area reserved for applications and ROMs, it has nothing to do with RAM. RAM is memory where applications are loaded when you wish to execute them and gets erased every time you power off the device, flash storage is where the applications are stored and loaded from.

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I've got the 32GB version + 16GB microSDHC and it's already filled to the brim. I just happen to consume lots of media, including comics, movies, music and books.

Also, the tablet doesn't specifically slow down by the amount of files on it, the process of indexing everything can temporarily slow it down but after indexing is done it doesn't consume resources anymore. Using some sort of an application that just loads everything to memory and doesn't care about trying to watch how it uses the memory is has reserved however can and will slow the tablet down, but that's an application issue, not a filesystem or OS issue per se.
[Acer Iconia A500] adambomb_13:
So if the internal memory is like is primary I can't see why it wouldnt be easy to make the external micro sd and ext of the internal. Is that possable?
[Acer Iconia A500] adambomb_13:
I found this post online for switching internal to external in honeycomb. I'm getting a 64gb sdxc for my 16gb a500 so it should come in handy.

I have had a mod to voold.fstab under previous Android versions so the OS looked at the physical MicroSD as the external card, not the internal 8 gigs in the Adam. Handy because some programs always wants to look for files on the external card. It was quite easy to do the same thing to Honeycomb, and in case anybody else needs it, here's the full code for the file (which is under \ETC, you need Root Explorer or simalar to edit/replace it):

Code:

## Vold 2.0 NVIDIA Harmony fstab

####################### ## Regular device mount ## ## Format: dev_mount <label> <mount_point> <part> <sysfs_path1...> ## label - Label for the volume ## mount_point - Where the volume will be mounted ## part - Partition # (1 based), or 'auto' for first usable par tition. ## <sysfs_path> - List of sysfs paths to source devices ######################

dev_mount microsd /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci.2/mmc_ host/mmc1 # todo: the secondary sdcard seems to confuse vold badly dev_mount sdreader /mnt/external_sd auto /devices/platform/tegra-sdhci. 3/mmc_host/mmc2 dev_mount usbdisk1 /mnt/usb_storage auto /devices/platform/tegra-ehci

So the actual changes are in the fourth and third lines from the bottom, changing around a few numbers. You'll see the difference if you open the original. I have saved a copy of it on the SD card, so if (or rather when) the next update comes I can simply copy it to the \ETC directory with Root Explorer and do a reboot, and it's back where I want it.
[Acer Iconia A500] internetpilot:
Yep, makes sense now that you both mentioned it. Sorry about that. So, it would seem to me that HC actually isn't using any A2SD solution, it's just that tablets typically have significantly greater internal storage and Google didn't expect anyone to really need it. If that's the case then it at least makes a little sense to me that HC doesn't have that built-in and than not many devs seem to be working on this type of project, especially for an A500 which can so easily use external USB storage for the usual storage hogs like media files.
[Acer Iconia A500] IcedCube:
i cannot see why people are so hellbent on apps2sd. seriously, i cannot. well, okay. i admit that it /does/ free up space on your internal apps partition.... but i can't see the point of wasting space on your external SD card.

the apps partition on the iconia tab is roughly 1GB. that's not too bad, unless you've got HD games and crap. i remember Sonic CD and Gameloft's NOVA 2 download stuff to the internal storage; which doesn't clutter up your app partition (the game is like 5mb for sonic cd and like 20mb for nova 2 on the apps partition, the rest is loaded from internal SD).

also, the tablet doesn't suck, if you're having issues with games, they aren't optimised for the advanced hardware that is used in the Iconia Tab. this is tablet hardware, not a smartphone logic board with a few addons and a sexy HD screen. the app developer hasn't taken the time to develop for tablets, most likely.

i guess less is more for me, but w/e.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
How does apps2sd actually work? I haven't paid any attention to what filesystem format the internal SD is, but wouldn't just symlinking files work? Or does the Android kernel support loopback filesystems? I'm just wondering, perhaps I'll dig some details myself just for the sake of curiosity and see if I can come up with a solution.
[Acer Iconia A500] tkirton:
Apps2SD works by moving programs residing in /data/app to the SD card. This can be accomplished in two ways:

1. Classic Apps2SD - This form is mainly used for Android units prior to Froyo, but can be used on Froyo and Gingerbread (and I presume Honeycomb and ICS, but I have never tested it with those Android platforms). By using a Linux partition that is formatted on your external SD card, the /data/app directory is symlinked to that partition. This tricks Android into thinking it is still storing applications in your Internal memory when, in reality, the programs are being stored on your SD card. The upside to this format is that any program can be moved over (and it is done automatically). The down side is that you will need to create two partitions on your SD card (one Linux partition for Apps2SD and one FAT32 partition for SD card storage) and your kernel must be able to run scripts on boot.

2. Secure Apps2SD - Starting with Froyo, Google implemented their version of Apps2SD. Their version moves your programs to a secured area of your SD Card and creates binding mounts to the actual programs themselves so that Android can run them off the FAT32 SD Card. The advantage of this is that no special formatting or programming is needed to implement this, as it is part of Android. The downside to this is that, without special programs, not ever application can be moved to the SD card (the program must be recompiled using at least the Froyo SDK...however, this issue is becoming less noticeable as more programs are being compiled using either the Froyo SDK or Gingerbread SDK).

The Acer Iconia A500 uses neither of these methods. The tablet is equipped with 8, 16 or 32GB of internal storage. Your applications are still stored on the /data partition, but your SD Card is nothing more than a FUSE mount to /data/media, which means both data and apps have access to the full 8, 16 or 32GB of internal storage, so there's no compelling reason that I can think of that you would need Apps2SD on this tablet. If you want your tablet to treat the external SD card as the actual SD card rather than internal storage, you would be better off changing the symlink to /sdcard from /mnt/sdcard to /mnt/external_sd (note that, when you do that, you won't be able to move files from your computer to the tablet by simply mounting the SD card, as the FUSE mount is not pointed to the external SD card, but to internal memory...you will either need a creative solution to change the FUSE mount to /mnt/external_sd on boot or you'll need to use ADB).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] conner:
I just connected my Tablet to the dock and it is charging the tablet from the dock. It is not connected to any power source (the charger) so is this normal?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joe14:
Yes, that is the point. You empty tablet's battery, you dock it, leave it, and than you can undock half-full tablet :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sparkdroid:
By design. It would be a waste to have the tablet run out of charge with charge left in the dock because this would prevent you from disconnecting them. You want the dock to empty first leaving maximum charge in the tablet in case you want to ditch the dock.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richsale:
I'm on Teamhacksungs ics and really enjoying this rom. Here's my problem.

When I go into recovery and click on 'install zip from sdcard' it goes to the next screen where I choose 'choose zip from sdcard' it immediately goes back to the first screen and 'install zip from sdcard'. It never goes to my sdcard.

1. I made sure sdcard is mounted

2. Went back to stock and back to rom with same problem.

Need Help please.
[General Questions and Answers] matthew42:
hi guys....i just want to root my samsung galaxy s+....i dont know what program to use to root my phone..sgs+:)..please help me....tnx in advanced.....
[General Questions and Answers] stenky87:
Use Odin 1.85 to flash what you want, kernels, roms or modem

There are many guide in the forum for doing this
[General Questions and Answers] Theonew:
First see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA, then see here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1253707.
[HTC Wildfire S] bingzz:
Hey guys, what CPU settings do you use? And which one would be best for smooth performance?
[HTC Wildfire S] Anthony3h18:
Min 120 MHz

Max 806 MHz

Smartass noop

(no-frills CPU control)
[HTC Wildfire S] Henry_01:
Smartass2 covernor.

Minimum: 122 Mhz, but I use 200 Mhz

Maximum: 806 MHz, but on some devices, when browsing for example, your phone can hang.

(Nothing works = kernel panic). You then need to lower it. I use 768 Mhz.

For benchmarking, use performance governor. Your CPU will then keep on highest frequency :cool:

Hope it helped :)
[HTC Wildfire S] d3tr0:
Smartass2:

Min 245mhz when sleep mode

Max 806mhz
[HTC Wildfire S] No.12:
Mine WS freeze on any frequency above 600 mhz.

Sent from UNLOCKED Wildfire S CM7.2
[HTC Wildfire S] intel007:
Yes these are my preferred settings too.
[HTC Wildfire S] DCraw198:
120mhz minimum

806mhz maximum

hope this helps!:D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] logikism:
got a vibrant

had 2.1 rooted

updated to 2.2 via kies

didnt like bloatware and swype version

couldnt root 2.2

downgraded to 2.1 stock and rooted

*not the same 2.1 i had before*

google apps seem out of date and they dont update in market

decided i want a gingerbread rom

cant get clockworkmod recovery flashed using rom manager

downloaded a custom bootloader (green android) and installed

now phone boots but will NOT go into recovery or download mode

trying to get to recovery

; green android screen then stock "vibrant" screen loop all day

trying to get into download mode

; black then plug in usb and the battery charging comes up and thats it

now i found clockwork file i can flash using odin or heimdall but cant because i got no download mode

what do i do? can i do anything?

phone isnt bricked just no option but normal boot to android
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bfranklin1986:
Your key combos changed when you flashed boot loaders. Volume up + power for download mode and volume down + power for recovery
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] logikism:
thank you so much! is there a walk through with dl links to get clockworkmod recovery on my device without rom manager?

rom manager downloads it to my phone but doesnt flash.

also rom manager free is not in my market anymore.

another question, what is the most satble, fastest rom with the best features and looks cool?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bfranklin1986:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=849028

use option B, have your rom you want to flash on your sd card ready to go
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] logikism:
Ok I have a cwm .tar file and I want an ics ROM.....should I just flash the .tar and use cwm to flash the ROM?

Or will that not work?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Watch this video if you want to flash ICS. It has everyting that you are doing right now. THe update.zip, the files you need and a walkthrough. You'll need to download some files to your internal though.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] logikism:
Thanks so much....I kept the same bootloader. Flashed cwm and ics 10.6

It's awesome!

I don't see any of the bugs people are talking about either
[Verizon Droid Charge] rami98:
Mod Edit: Github to track progress

https://github.com/timedroid

http://t.co/goZfHAYs Straight from JT1134's twitter ( @_jt1134_ )

I'm pretty sure the only things not working are bluetooth, the youtube app, the radios, the camera (which i haven't seen working in nearly every other ICS ROM for every other phone), and the home button (which doesn't matter much because you can just use the back button).

I know that EGL (hardware acceleration) is working, wifi is working, the screen, sdcard, all google apps and basically every thing else you can think of.

It is really great how much is working, especially considering that this is a first build. Thanks JT!

JT IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL BABYSITTER SO DON'T GO WHINING TO HIM WHEN YOU FIND AN ISSUE, OR THE ROM CAUSES A NUCLEAR WAR (which it might because of how amazing it is).

Because JT1134 is so AMAZING, here is his donation link so you can add to his beer fund. If you liked this ROM or any other mod or tweak that JT has created, please donate him. Or even if you didn't try out any of his ROMs, donate anyway because he makes some amazing stuff!

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=QUBYWJHTTNV8S
[Verizon Droid Charge] blueis300:
Cool so far.
[Verizon Droid Charge] goatman101:
Just downloaded and flashed. Looks very nice! I am assuming this is not a working version as the phone will not register service. Awesome though!!!
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Hahaha I enjoyed the link "to the haters"
[Verizon Droid Charge] boimarc89:
i cant wait. the dookie brown theme was killin me
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Do we need to convert back to RFS before flashing?
[Verizon Droid Charge] substanceD:
The updater script in the zip will convert you to ext4 automatically. I'm very excited for this ROM--I tried it out last night and although I won't be staying on it until cell connectivity is working, it's very nice of JT to have put this initial version together for us.
[Verizon Droid Charge] scarygood536:
would anything happen if you flash the ep4d's radios? or is the RIL the code that makes those radio files work?
[Verizon Droid Charge] anoninja118:
my guess would be that given ICS is a whole new iteration of android (its own kernel, skin, modems, etc.) I don't think it'll work... I personally wouldn't try it I'd just wait till they sort the RIL out

blazing through on my Acer A500 via XDA app
[Verizon Droid Charge] adrenaline_rush:
Would I be able to restore from my Infinity rom backup just fine? Considering the RFS/EXT4 mess..

EDIT: Restoring from Infinity had no problems, I guess the ICS is already on EXT4 anyway
[Verizon Droid Charge] jt1134:
I'm only stating the obvious.

As the only person who has yet contributed code to this project, along with ~12 hours of my personal free time, for a device I don't even use mind you, I reserve the right to say whatever I want to trolls or those who wish to downplay my efforts. Deal with it. Trolling or otherwise unhelpful posts are less than useless.

In short: contribute, or stfu already!
[Verizon Droid Charge] Devilman539:
Fair enough. I can admit when I'm wrong. Good luck.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ms0chez:
<---Well aside from all that I gotta say I fell in love with ICS when I ran this rom. It was freaking amazing. I no longer had the urge to buy the galaxy nexus, not like I can afford it. I will be more than satisfied with my charge when this is finish. I ran this for half of the day and would've kept running it if I was forced to take it off (ie boyfriend :-/)

I thank you so freaking much JT! Looking forward to your continuation of this rom.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Keighles:
OK...I understand that the radios aren't working right now, what are the other known issues with this rom so far???

Donation on its way!!

(to JT and Nuts)
[Verizon Droid Charge] jt1134:
Thanks. And I apologize for the attack. Its frustrating to see lots of negative posts when your wife is already pissed because she knows you've been up all night working on a phone you don't use, when she already hates android anyways.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jt1134:
Camera, home button, wifi is kinda wonky. HDMI out will likely never work.
[Verizon Droid Charge] goatman101:
Glad to donate to your beer fund, please keep up the dev.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Keighles:
Cool, Don't really use HDMI anyway.
[Verizon Droid Charge] flybyturkey:
Keep up the good work!!!!

First of all I want to thank every single one of you that has supported the Charge. I really hope that we get to see a stable and working ICS soon. I have supported the devs that I have stayed with on this phone and will continue to support others who I choose to follow. Always remember that we NEVER start with a stable release. We fall down so we can learn how to pick ourselves up. Being that said, I say keep kicking @$$ at developing on phones that manufacturers give up on in the beginning. I don't know about you but 90% of us use our phones for at least a year or better because of the contracts. Donations will continue if you keep on developing on this ICS build. THANK YOU!!!

Let me know if you need anything and I will do what I can to help.:)
[Verizon Droid Charge] achandler2:
As talented as you are dude I'm sure you will get it to work somewhere in the future. Keep up the good work !
[Verizon Droid Charge] hazard209:
Same here.
[Verizon Droid Charge] boimarc89:
ics is being worked on.....just took at jt's git and repo
[Verizon Droid Charge] jsminnis:
https://github.com/jt1134/android_device_samsung_charge there it is and it hasn't been touched since the 11th. Jt has said he will be out of the loop for awhile due to his new job and that others are working on it now, as far as who I'm not sure. I believe it will come in due time but not any time soon.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ace5198:
Guy Named timedroid is working on it now .. Allot has been done on his github..

:)
[Verizon Droid Charge] nismology:
We never really had to beyond using it for infinity with the included kernel. I still use 0817 CWM exclusively after running into a nandroid restore issue with the newest one.
[Verizon Droid Charge] emtee_skull:
There is 2 versions of blue. 1207 and 1209. 1209 is the latest and backup/restore functions work.
[Verizon Droid Charge] nismology:
1209 is what I tried. It doesn't work properly for everyone.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Rodhargis:
Same here 1209 no android but 0817 works perfect
[Verizon Droid Charge] emtee_skull:
Are you trying to restore a backup from a previous version of cwm?

sent by genetically altered carrier pigeon with premium xda app.
[Verizon Droid Charge] eric2112:
Is there another location that we can follow current progress on this port?
[Verizon Droid Charge] cujo6801:
Not That I'm aware of

SENT FROM THE DOG POUND
[Verizon Droid Charge] Deeked:
Thanks for the heads up bro... ;)

https://github.com/timedroid/android_device_samsung_charge
[Verizon Droid Charge] TidusWulf:
Cool! thanks for the link
[Verizon Droid Charge] tdenton1138:
As a user of GoLauncher, this may not help you, but I have had unbelievable performance with Tweakstock 1.1 on ext4 and PB&J. No freezes, lockups and quite overclockable/undervoltable. This combo has renewed my faith in the Charge.

OTOH, I would love to try out ICS, but really need my radios...
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
Tweakstock is fast, but don't like the stock look and drawer.
[Verizon Droid Charge] XbirthofaheroX:
Theme it and get a different launcher, problem solved.
[Verizon Droid Charge] cujo6801:
Lol.....

SENT FROM THE DOG POUND
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
I would if I actually wanted to run it, eclipse is smoking with pbj, 3k+ on quadrant.
[Verizon Droid Charge] XbirthofaheroX:
Ya I'm on eclipse with pbj and thunderbolt and its ultra smooth. I can't trust quadrant, it's too inconsistent. One day I'll get 2800 the other 1900 o.O
[Verizon Droid Charge] ambrar12:
why is everyone talking about tweakstock? has any progress been made on the ICS ROM? if JT is too busy maybe he can hand his code over to imnuts?
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
jt moved and had a child I believe, he's busy. timedroid is now working on ics. Best ROM imho is eclipse, but that's just my $.02

All those who believe in telekinesis raise my hand!
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
What are you using for benchmark, antutu?

All those who believe in telekinesis raise my hand!
[Verizon Droid Charge] buhohitr:
IMO, Antutu is better, more recent update. Quadrant is way....out dated.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jharvey24:
Ah on antutu I'm getting around 3300.

All those who believe in telekinesis raise my hand!
[Verizon Droid Charge] juanzr1:
Well said.
[Verizon Droid Charge] BattsNotIncld:
If everyone just adds Devilman539 to their ignore lists, it'll be like he's not even here. I already did this, unfortunately people still quote him so that means I still have to read his blatant trolling posts.

I would prefer if he was outright banned from the Charge forums, but that is for the higher powers to decide. ;)

Keep up the great work devs.