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[Windows Phone 7 General] XxAndrexX:
What does it mean, open phones no update??? no update now, or no update never ever?? Anyway, we pay more for a open phone, to get more updates and even sooner, and at the end, we are the last.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
I think open phones now get the updates much easily! We only need one carrier to release update and then using cab sender it updates right away! I did that with my unbranded Titan and it only took 8-9 minutes from point A to point B!
[Windows Phone 7 General] 0711:
there is currectly no update delivery, maybe in the future but if you see microsoft community manager any carrier has to request the update ... but theres no carrier for open market phones, whats the obvious? Open market phones dont receive this update ever and get it maybe with the next (tango?) update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] iosub:
send a tweet to

Lets send a tweet to @joebelfiore

@joebelfiore my HTC titan is unbranded #wp7 how can I get the 8107 update If is carried depended ?

Iosu

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I think that is a dangerous method.. If you don't update all the language cabs..

You may not get next HTC update..
[Windows Phone 7 General] XxAndrexX:
So open phones users, we are screwed or what? i got the 7740 update right away. but until now no theethering for example.
[Windows Phone 7 General] 0711:
yes this is the actual situation, some unbranded phones may not become wlan tethering because it depends on carrier request and dont get the 8107 update (on the official way...with hacks you can have both but this is not the point why i choose windows phone)

sad to see microsoft destroys its own system and screw away their fans
[Windows Phone 7 General] lip:
I've got a Samsung Focus (originally a Rogers phone) unlocked and using on Bell Canada network.

I did the wifi disconnect trick and got the 7740 update...doesn't this mean Roger is delivering it?
[Windows Phone 7 General] iosub:
for tethering you need OEM driver update it's not only OS depended

Iosu
[Windows Phone 7 General] OndraSter:
Samsung had the driver ready even before Mango started rolling out. In the official rollout drivers update was already softap implemented and working :). I got some ROM that had older OEM drivers date than the Mango rollout and it was there too.

On the other hand, HTC was playing bad and didn't include it. No idea how LG and Dell...
[Windows Phone 7 General] 0711:
i know...but if i use hack i can use internet sharing...if i dont, i am not able to use it

even on german telekom the omnia 7 users got internet sharing

i have german telekom sim but unbranded omnia 7 and dont got it

i know that the dell venue pro is not capable for this feature but omnia 7 was before mango!

When i look at 2 friends, one with branded telekom and one unbranded, both got internet sharing and no one can tell why my friend with unbranded got the update and i am not.

its not the lack of the feature, because i dont care about wlan tethering but who pushs the updates? Microsoft and they hold it back, a total inconsistents in the update process...like with 7740 as os update or even more worse the 8107 update

-> tested the cab sender and all seems to be fine for me but restored my backup because i want it on the official way and not this. I paid not only for the device, for the os, too! The update experience is just bull**** with wp, android doin it better because i can choose nexus phone (never thought i say this) and get every update immediatelly and apple do it the best way since now.

Looks like my next phone will be no windows phone, regardless that i like the system but i dont get what was promised and what i get.
[Windows Phone 7 General] day2die:
The big issue here is how to confirm all this data.

Maybe some of the information is wrong.
[Windows Phone 7 General] droodls:
I guess I'll try to keep the Sasktel (Canada) section current. I'm guessing there aren't too many Sasktel people on here with windows phones but I could be surprised.

Also +1 on being annoyed with this whole carrier requested updates. :(

At least we'll be able to come here to see what's officially available.
[Windows Phone 7 General] :
Note: if your get update with the disconnection trick, your carrier has approve the update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] iosub:
According to @maryjofoley

Microsoft claims It's business as usual with Windows Phone updates: http://t.co/IaEPGb8e #windowsphone #wp Thoughts?

So nothing has change, unbranded phones will get the update , we should just wait ?
[Windows Phone 7 General] angler:
It is funny for this latest "clarification" to the previous blog. Unbranded WP will still get the "fix" since patch or update are cumulative, and it will be added in the next, say Tango update, even no carrier has requested such update for.

Hope Microsoft has not changed anything regarding the update process. I would expect it is the same as what Apple provided for and differentiate from Andoird which rely on OEM to provide the update. This is the prime reason that I have chosen WP back from iphone and Andoird after my use of WM since 2002.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
This is @joebelfiore tweeted 2 minutes ago!

ps - on updates, pls don't overreact, our focus is on users first! As greg said "nothing has changed" in how we work w carriers on updates.

This is him again tweeted 20 minutes ago!

Hopefully everyone reads @maryjofoley piece. http://zd.net/zDFzyP Greg tells the story, but punchline is: it's all good in the hood.

Also this one is THE most interesting in terms of what we should be expecting for TANGO and APOLLO

Trust me .. the team is busy building LOTS of new things. You can tell because I've been tweeting less lately. :)

Hopefully this was just a short panic attack rippled largely by the competitors!
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
Mary jo Foley replied to me when asked for details for unbranded phones saying "Sorry, I dont know"

Sent from my TITAN X310e using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] iosub:
@BrandonWatson what about unbranded phones? Who makes the decision? We should be the first getting updates. We don't have carried test.

@iosubz That's a great question, and I don't know the answer. Let me go ask someone who will.

@BrandonWatson all my company WP are unbranded.I buy the phones because I don't want carries to block updates. So please don't forget us.Thx

Hope we get an answer :-)
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Why would the competitors "panic" on news that microsoft stopped posting progress reports online, and gave roll-out control back to the carriers ?

It sounds more like the end users are panicing and mad that they cannot watch and know when to expect the next update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ChrisKringel:
Hey guys,

to add to the unbranded update discussion: I own an unbranded Lumia 800 myself and contacted @NokiaHelps, whether an update will be available.

source
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
End users panic due to wrongly worded blog post. Competitors make sure they ripple it harder as anything bad about Microsoft spreads faster than wildfire in a forest. Considering Microsoft delivers two major updates a year (so far) the updates not forwarded by operators anyway get bundled with Microsoft updates. The operators can only skip one update. So example if current 8xxx update is on hold it by your or my operator, we get it in 2-3 months time with Tango.

Sent from my TITAN X310e using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
Also what you did was add log to fire here. NO end users dont feel that they dont know when to expect the next update because The Blog dedicate to updates is shutting down and update info is being moved/merged to The Windows Phone website. So its still going to exist in some form may be not detailed enough unless its major one.

Sent from my TITAN X310e using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 General] slimshady322:
That is apparantly not true anymore. Sure, changes and bug fixes introduced in 8107 will also be in Tango, but some carriers were apparently able to skip both 7740 and 8107 (or they are still in testing or sheduling).

They way I read it is that some updates (like 8107 and possible also 7740) are not mandatory and carriers can completly control whether they want to distribute them or not. So if a carrier did not request and distribute 8107 they can still skip the next update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Ahhhhh, I hadn't considered that viewpoint. Astroturfing by oems is very popular now, agreed.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
The short tweet I saw didn't state this, but the subsiquent replies didn't sound like typical astroturfing... they sounded like end users. I like to believe I can tell the difference. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
I recommend reading Joe's blog and Mary's recent blog (will dig up the links if I can from my browser history). What they have mentioned is, especially Mary, that it hasn't changed in terms of what was being regulated pre-Mango and post-Mango with carriers. The carriers guidelines are still the same. The carriers pre-Mango could only hold on to one update. I highly doubt many have withheld 7740, but if they have, they will have to force 8107 anyway! The ones that don't force 8107 will have to bend over when Tango comes in (hopefully in next 60 days!)

I am really keen on understanding the term Astroturfing's reference here. I have heard it with footy and cricket, never for smartphones! Enlighten me please! ;)

The end users will believe what they read/hear like me! I chose to believe what Microsoft tweeted, blogged on the net following wrongly worded blog post on 6th Jan! Obviously giving the media/blogosphere about a night to ponder on the meaning of what that wrongly worded blog meant, was more than enough! Overnight end users read variations of the meaning and then started off the panic! However, I felt reassured when I read clarification blogs from MS and people directly related rather than someone working for online blogs sites!
[Windows Phone 7 General] slimshady322:
Well come carriers have not released 7740 nor 8107 to their customers, so like I said earlier if 8107 is not in testing or scheduling (which might very well be true), they have skipped two updates in a row.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JonnieLasVegas:
Yep, my HTC Radar on TMOUS hasn't received either update. It only has an HTC update which when installed on my other Radar, didn't bring me up to 7740 or obviously 8107. Not sure if or when I'll get either, but waiting until Tango is pushed out is ridiculous. We shouldn't have to wait that long to have a keyboard fix (which is driving me nuts!!!!!), or to fix a serious security flaw in the messaging bug. These type of updates should never be "by request', but an immediate mandatory update.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Necroman_AI:
WPDownunder is also maintaining a Where's My Update page here:

http://www.wpdownunder.com/?page_id=3428
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
8107 is brand new and is barely being delivered to anyone right now. I don't think we've given it enough time to say whether or not anyone is skipping it. It hasn't even gone out on most unbranded devices yet.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arseny92:
TMOUS HD7

Received the 8107 a month ago.

Updated the google docs document from the first post - see revision history.
[Windows Phone 7 General] MandyShaw:
Thank you!

Many thanks for this - I was thinking of doing something similar will I found yours - spot on & very user friendly.

I have posted a link to it on the WP7 Microsoft Answers forum, where we get questions without end on this subject. I've encouraged posters there both to update it and to use it as a resource.

Mandy
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] djeddieone:
Better Skype For Galaxy Nexus Bigger Video Screen & Quality

All credit to Os0o

Download here http://www.multiupload.com/VRMVAKC31S

I had a GSM GN and Stock Skype worked perfect but now I have a LTE version on Verizon and my video comes out small on the screen with the stock version so I found this tweaked version and video shows up much bigger and better quality. The app also comes with extra settings enjoy!

Xda Thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1148708
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
? i don't see a link.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] djeddieone:
There you go
[Off-topic] rrroach:
Greetings! I'm surprised there is no forum section for introductions on this site... Anyways, I thought I'd just introduce myself.

Got a used G2x a day ago and am loving it so far. Got unlimited 4G and got this phone that's practically brand new for $200. Score! I used to be heavily into iOS "customizations" but I don't think i'll be switching back from android ever again. Already rooted and running Weapon G2x.
[Off-topic] cabessius:
And what´s wrong with The Say Hi Thread?
[Off-topic] deliriousDroid:
There is a stickied thread in this section for saying hello.

But anyways, hello, and ib4l

Sent from my SilverBullet 'HTCDesireZ running EliteMod'
[Off-topic] deliriousDroid:
Ahh, beat me to the punch:mad::p

Sent from my SilverBullet 'HTCDesireZ running EliteMod'
[Off-topic] TheRomMistress:
Really? You didnt see the sticky?

Well, Welcome to XDA in any case.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lamzor:
i have htc desireS with virtuous unity saga (with sense). major problem im having with opera and default android internet browser is that it keeps closing almost all the time - when i start any other application. when i go back to browser, all tabs refresh.

i did some research and found out that android memory management is not very good :/

i have 100MB RAM free at all times. when starting+closing shadowgun+angry birds, i can get 180MB extra free RAM(no visible application is closed while getting this extra RAM).

when i close shadowgun+angry birds apps, i can get almost 300MB free RAM total. after while(with no extra apps started) it goes back to 100MB free RAM. i saw the same behavior with HTC Sensation running stock ROM and Nexus S running stock ICS ROM(all hover around 100MB RAM free most times).

is there any way how to protect internet browser before all other "empty_apps"? for example changing category of opera from "empty_app" to "hidden_app". i tried changing it with auto memory manager, but it reverts back to default in few seconds.

i was testing most common browsers and found out that skyfire browser is the only browser which is running as "hidden_app" with OOM4(all other browsers are "empty_apps" OOM9+, thus closed first).

to test if skyfire is the only browser which can survive almost everything i tried starting skyfire(this was started first to test OOM - should be closed first), opera, dophinhd and default browser. then i started angry birds to force low memory. only skyfire survived with open web page. all other web browsers reset, weird is that with angry birds running, i still had 112MB free RAM. when i do the same test without starting skyfire, all other browsers are closed anyway, with free RAM around 100MB.

any ideas(other than sticking to skyfire)?
[HTC Sensation] FreakyDR:
Hello and good weekend all!

I received a week ago an 1900 anker battery. After I charged it till 100% + about two hours I wiped battery stats and till now already did more than 5 full charge cycles but still when I reboot my phone the precentage drops about 10% (every cycle)
[HTC Sensation] FreakyDR:
anyone? =\
[HTC Sensation] ar4l:
Rebooting always drain the battery sometimes by a lot more than 10 %. Powering off and then turning on the phone again has a lesser impact in the battery.
[HTC Sensation] FreakyDR:
the problem is that because of this my phone shuts down suddenly instead of regular "shutting down" process
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] alex.odell.2011:
Hi,

Just a quick question,

What are the advantages and disadvantages of SD and NAND,

Finally which one is best,

I am running SD Andriod and wondered if it is worth the risk for NAND,

Will I see a performance boost?

Alex
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kylew1212:
I've not ran an SD since before nand came out. But I think you would see a huge improvement in every aspect using nand over SD. The only downside I can see is if you like windows mobile..
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Tsumi:
Nand is faster.

SD is easier to have multiple builds and swapping builds. It also allows you to have Windows mobile or Windows Phone 7 on the Nand.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] ChunD.K:
I love the both. SD system could run so many Based. Like Sense. TouchWiz. CM... on one SD Card with MAGLDR-BOOT AD SD.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] alex.odell.2011:
Thanks guys, would running sd build through mgldr be as good as nand?
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Tsumi:
Nope. SD will always be slower.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] MR.Samo:
Man you have to make a big step .

when u will jamb to nand roms, u will see another phone between your hands, and don't forget to use MAGLDR installer it's a little complicated than CLK.

Good luck :)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] alex.odell.2011:
Flashed NAND eariler TBD Runny, it's f***ing awsome, if you are on the edge of flashing or not, push yourself over and flash!!! Awsome! You guys making SD build do a great job well done but nand has the advantage!
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] pakure:
i would never use a nand...cos my wp7 and sd miui combo rocks!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alvespt:
hello i've been testing the camera for the nexus and i just cant get fine pictures with it, i dont understand because the video is amanzingly good but the pictures suck, is there an app that resolves this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nycebo:
You may have problems with focus. By default, on 'quick snaps', the camera seems to just focus to infinity. My recommendation is to hold down the 'shutter' for a bit so that it can pre-focus (turn green) and then it will take a picture. Exposure and focus are much better then.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alvespt:
Thx men

Sent from mthxy Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
gotta thank you for this, i had no idea that holding down the shutter button caused it to focus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nycebo:
@neok44, anytime. I'll admit that the sensor on the SGN isn't as good as the iPhone4s but the SGN takes better pictures than my DX (8mp) did. If you don't mind using a camera app until the newer ICS release is out, I really like using Vignette also. Of course, it takes pictures at a much slower clip than the native camera...which is generally what I use unless I'm trying to be 'artistic'.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] klobkelosh:
I really like using a modded version of miui camera version 17. Search xda for it, look for the "fixed 2"version by mongoose helix. Takes nice pics, auto focuses ok, quick.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] coldcrush390:
I recently flash an actual ICS rom that was developed for the Samsung Vibrant on my Fathers Samsung Vibrant and I was thinking why cant we have the same thing? It was really nice and everything responded sooo smoothly. I know we have some really hard working developers and I really appreciate what they do. I just wanted to know why cant we have ICS? Its an actual question btw im not whining or anything its just an actual question. Thanks!

http://youtu.be/HkuO3daVOYI
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Beastmode:
Theres alot of other threads about ICS look for it some devs replied to this
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] coldcrush390:
Yeah lol i finally found that out haha well at least i can say i didnt post it in the devs section! Lol! :p
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Fluidification:
Having the ICS look doesn't mean anything. We love the hundreds of new features.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Do you mean the ICS value pack leak that samfirmware posted for the Vibrant? That's just Gingerbread with a new lockscreen and a few apps that look like ICS.

http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-includes-face-unlock-and-other-ics-features/
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] coldcrush390:
No its actually ice cream sandwich passion or something and its the actual ics 4.0.3
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] phantomlord78:
will this work with SGS4G???
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Link or it didn't happen.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jigglynuts:
+1

I would like to see the link as well
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] 95Z28:
Go take a look in the vibrant forums, I flashed it to a friends vibrant about a month or so back. It says 4.0.whatever. But I'm inclined to say its basically an imposter.

Idk enough about the technicalities to pass judgment though.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Yeah 'cause it would've been all over the android news sites if it was for real.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Xerses_frm_HoFo:
I went to a Telus corporate store and the rep there said the Samsung rep confirmed ICS for my S II X in March or April.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Yes, you guys already got ICS. We're talking about the Vibrant and Vibrant variants.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Xerses_frm_HoFo:
Sorry. Being in the Galaxy S2 4G section, I thought that that is what we were talking about.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] KotsChopShop:
there is no GSII4g section because no such item exists (or more accurately, all GSII's are 4g), you're in the SGS4g section
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] coldcrush390:
Ok guys here's the link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1362961

I also recorded a video if you wanna see it on youtube and the link is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=HkuO3daVOYI

Once again just correct me if im wrong :p
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] coldcrush390:
I think you're right.. Anyways to see it act in everyway like ICS is really nice work!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Xerses_frm_HoFo:
Thank you, I stand corrected.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Pretty sure that's not official, from Samsung. Still though, I'd take a custom ROM over the official Samsung version any day.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] 95Z28:
No one ever said it was an official ROM from samsung, original post said "actual ICS rom that was developed for the Samsung Vibrant". Key word being Developed;)

Its pretty sweet actually. But the phone I flashed it on was just a friends wifi only play phone (he uses a sgs2) so I couldn't say how it works for everday use.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Fluidification:
if we don't get ics officially, then we should just try to get cm9. Only thing I'm worried about is no driver API.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Conkrete:
Been using ICS passion on my vibrant for a few weeks now. It really is amazing, some really great code upgrades that enhance the smoothness of scrolling and overall quickness. The SGS4G would really benefit, hopefully some devs are willing to take a stab at it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bhundven:
One step at a time.

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I don't understand.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] claywd:
Wait so does the ROM work with sgs4g right of the bat with gingerbread bootloaders already installed and flashing the ROM through clockwork recovery. I'm downloading it right now in case your answer is yes
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Exodian:
Anything built for the vibrant will not work for the sgs4g. Don't flash it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] claywd:
Is there a way to port it for the sgs4g?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
It's getting worked on. Just hang tight.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lainvalenajr:
Not really waiting for the ice cream port but am waiting for the miui port instead. Lol good luck to our devs
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] JuLes' MostWanted:
they just changed the rom name to ics :-P

its really gb with apps

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Im willing to help others...

Feel free to pm and ask a question...

*just don't flame if I get something wrong sometimes, I'm only a HUMAN NOT AN ANDROID :-D

Oh btw.. Hit thanks if I helped
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] genlop89:
Who is working on a port for the sgs4g??