yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Acer Iconia A500] birkoffsjunk:
Are you really trying to say your directory structure is copyrighted? lol... I think you need to get over yourself and stop behaving like a 12 year old brat.
[Acer Iconia A500] randomblame:
My sides are hurting stop making me laugh haha I love how your "directory structure" and "scripts" can't be "stolen" by me but then you steal the linux kernel with every release you make and profit directly from it. I'm offering options up for free for those who don't want to be running stolen software.

ahhh hypocrisy
[Acer Iconia A500] :
If he doesn't get it by now, he's not going to.

He sets the hook and you just swallow it.

Keep up your work, and use the "ignore" function in your CP, it's become my favorite tool in this forum!

;)
[Acer Iconia A500] randomblame:
haha I forgot about that function
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Random, you ARE incorporating the "itsmagic" checksum recalculation step in your recovery, yes? If not, how are you dealing with the encrypted bootloader's checksum verification?
[Acer Iconia A500] hav0c:
Thor deserves more recspect for all the work he is doing for the A500 then your comment. Look at what he has doing for ICS on the A500 for example.

Even Google did not release the source code of Honeycomb yet, maybe you should tell Larry Page to start "doing things right" before you rant at Thor. You could at least give him credit.. My 2 cents..
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
HC's source was released at the same time as ICS, however that's not really relevant as the userspace of Android is covered under the Apache license, so they are under no obligation to open source it. The kernel is a different matter entirely.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Honeycomb-and-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-source-code-released-early_id23768

:rolleyes:

Google has also technically released the Honeycomb source code since ICS was built on Honeycomb, not Gingerbread, but wants to focus on ICS. So, according to JBQ, Google hasn't "created any tags that correspond to the Honeycomb releases (even though the changes are present in the history.)” If you really want, the Honeycomb source is out there, but it seems a bit unnecessary with ICS being out as well.

And if you hit Acer's site here, follow through for the Iconia tab A500, under documents, you'll find 3.2 HC kernel source code:

http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/drivers

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] ezterry:
Presumably,

I'm not exactly looking yet but the main components of a cwm recovery:

* Itsmagic is by sc2k: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1121543

This will need a script to run it on boot, but write your own don't use Thor's if you are going to remake recovery with the point of avoiding his work, this is not in CWM by default

* Cwm recovery is by koush and part of cyanogen mod: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery

Having a vender tree helps here since otherwise you wil be hacking another devices version, pershoot has some tablet recovery only vender trees in his github.

* most logic for the internal SD has been added to koush's code with help from pershoot for other tablets (not sure what Thor did on his version may not match that of Koush)

* the two big components compiled into CWM recovery that are under the gpl-v2 are the kernel and busybox.. other components to the best of our knowledge are under apache2 and thus different terms. (The version of thor recovery i have has the stock kernel, I've not looked closely at the busybox, but if its just from one of koush's builds/source its the cyanogenmod busybox.. no clue what commit, but tagging what commit for what build seems more recent by even the best of developers..)

Hopefully this project will succeed sooner, but my hope if I find the time is just a cm9 build tree including recovery for the a500.

But remember regardless of if Thor is doing it right, and giving the correct credit to all those sources, if you are to do it right you must ignore that and while this project seems reasonably possible without Thor's work, if you need it he still gets credit for what he works on, so lets avoid statements about how he must do it right first, otherwise I just have two people's work i must try and avoid.
[Acer Iconia A500] civato:
Little comment , Thor's cwm is build on stock kernel (so source is known) , so I can't see what the big trouble is about his cwm? Please do let me know , isn't that the reason why this is started , thinking it wasn't the stock kernel. Or is this just to give a alternative cwm ?

And I don't understand what does he need to share about his cwm (you know what the kernel is and you know the source) ? Only thing I see in OP is link to Kernel of blazingwolf , so a other kernel that's all or am I missing something ?

And I'm only talking about cwm , what this thread is about.

Not with bad intentions, just a fair question.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
If you're talking about his original build, then you are correct.

His recent builds however are a different story altogether if I'm not mistaken.

You can't oveclock during CWM on a stock kernel. ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] themono:
Yeah, I feel this thread has gotten somewhat emotional. All I'd point out is that if Thor wasn't developing a non-gpl compliant kernel, then I doubt Random would be doing this at all. It's not like he just wants to develop his own recovery, that's why he's reusing as much of Thor's as he legally can.
[Acer Iconia A500] civato:
I think you miss quoted.
[Acer Iconia A500] themono:
Haha, sorry, I did. Not sure how I screwed up the tagging like that! Fixing now.
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
acer recovery installer.

Is it to early to think about having the developer to see about getting the recovery installer involved in this thread. As a means to install pre the other recovery
[Acer Iconia A500] blazingwolf:
Why does every thread need to become a vs thor thread? Can we just stfu about thor and move on with this new recovery?

I once again understand why no one wants to come here and develop for the a500.
[Acer Iconia A500] teflontactics:
I think I speak for everyone when I say...

+1
[Acer Iconia A500] randomblame:
Ill have to dissect his older recovery and see exactly what kernel is in there I put this up under the impression that all of his recoveries were infringing because his latest sure as hell are. Also his kernel is not required for the overclock function blazings works fine in my testing. I give Thor mad credit for getting it working but had he not come along it would have happened regardless and there would be a much happier more productive dev community. He can still turn it all around and release source for his kernels but I don't agree with his methods or understand his need to protect his sacred work. Basically I got this device to have fun with not to argue about who did what and why. In the next few weeks I will be freely stealing **** with abandon customizing and sharing and if anyone wants to ***** about it you can shove it. The fun begins now I'm done playing the games. I'm here to share if others are here for other reasons they shouldn't share their work at all. We should all be working as a team to create awesomeness and if it is too much to ask for then ill just sell my a500 and get a device that I can enjoy working on.
[Acer Iconia A500] krweby:
Will we finally see it in rom manager now?
[Acer Iconia A500] ezterry:
I think that requires two things:

1) a clean build from source (patched as needed) of clockwork recovery, and

2) for the maintainer of said recovery to work with koush (since he will need rom manager to know not just the recovery to install but to run itsmagic when installing the CWM recovery from the rom manager app.

A third item may be some roms that are reaady to be added to rom manager,

In short if randomblame, for example, makes a stable recovery and plays some email tag it might.
[Acer Iconia A500] randomblame:
Its not exactly a big missing feature in my opinion its hampared by a few requirements like a need for cooks and devs to upload their roms to koush and paid versions of rom manager who can't figure out how to flash a rom manually anyhow? If you know what rom you want and you can root the thing you should be able to hold down two buttons on reboot.
[Acer Iconia A500] muqali:
Bravo on respecting the GPL. Sent you some beer funds. Have a drink on me.
[Acer Iconia A500] randomblame:
Thanks bud check your pms :D I've got a better version of cwm but I don't think I'll release it I'm currently waiting to get my laptop back - I don't have the best of internet here and I have to drop it off at an internet connection for a few days whenever I need source lol
[Acer Iconia A500] krweby:
It's nice to use to schedule backups. And nice to use something you payed for. Especially since the code used was that individuals.
[Acer Iconia A500] BrianDigital:
so pressing the volume button a bunch of times makes some one smarter....guess you need that feeling where ever you can get it
[Acer Iconia A500] randomblame:
If anything I was insinuating a level of lazyness but now I'm sensing a feeling of entitlement.
[Acer Iconia A500] krweby:
Entitlement no. How can you miss read as entitlement. I didn't ask you to give me anything just wondering if you where going to work with Koush to put it in rom manager? I'm grateful for what you have done. I don't expect something for nothing ..... :confused:
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Agreed completely. Can we please get back to the topic of a fully open source recovery please, folks?

Blazing, did you see my question regarding itsmagic?
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
I am in no way a dev at all.. maybe even less then a power user.. But i do know when you flash a new rom or a rom after you have formatted partitions in the thor cwm.. you see calculating. or fixing checksums .. it also does this at the end of a restore after a backup.

This tells me that this recovery will work with exception of a totally diffrent rom or restoring a backup.. without running its magic or the scrips thor added to fix checksums.. it does not always brick tablets just sometimes so without it it could be dangerous..

Sorry if im out of line pointing this out..

Good Luck and awesome work...
[Acer Iconia A500] :
Any further development on this, or has it been dropped? ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] af974:
I agree with what someone said before, let's stop off topics otherwise i will delete them.

Let's make clear something for who doesn't know what is GPL (General Public License), read here for many informations regardless.

This mean that recovery is not cover form GPL but ( randomblame do know that ) from Apache, source for CWM are in CyanogeMod and are made from Koush so, FYI, Thor didn't was forced to post his CWM source but only Kernel source, in fact the source that you find on first post it is ONLY for the kernel by blazingwolf.

The CWM present here it was grabbed from the dissected recovery.img by Thor, it was changed:

else
RECOVERY_NAME := Thor2002ro rev 1.3.4 -> [COLOR="Red"]GPL compliant recovery[/COLOR]
endif

simply by opening it with an hex editor.

The main thing it is pretty easy to do:

extract recovery.img with yaffs and you will have the recovery folder with a lot of scripts, images and binary.

Open with an hex editor recovery located into sbin folder.

Change lines from 0009CD67 till 0009CD80 with any name of your choise and voilà, you will have your recovery with your name of choice lol

Change also icon_clockwork.png located in res/images with any of your choice.

False, as said recovery is not in violation of any rules.

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False, this is not the latest CWM version, the last one is 5.0.2.7

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false, this is Thor CWM and if it works fine than this will works too.

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True, and you must give proper credits, i don't consider this as credits.

Since i am on the Iconia A500 moderators i kindly ask you to change your first post with the right words and thread title too, "GPL Compliant Recovery" is only hilarious.

@all, i hope this help to stop with all these posts garbage about Thor, GPL and whatever.

Thor was already punished to not post his Kernel source as far as many other developers.
[Acer Iconia A500] sxm2:
So is this GPL compliant recovery better (stable, richer features, faster) than the GPL recovery made by Thor?
[Acer Iconia A500] teflontactics:
Apparently, this has not only been abandoned, but is irrelevant vis a vie the post by af974.

I would, however, like to see randomblame and blazingwolf team up and take on ICS from scratch.
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
In answer to your request;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1353252

Enjoy :D
[Acer Iconia A500] lechuckthepirate:
That thread, in case you didn't notice... is closed! XD

Are they re-opening it on another thread or the project is dead ?

For the mods.... can anyone explain what's all the stuff with Thor and why he's not present at XDA?? I've downloaded and flashed his ICS Alpha ROM and maybe the only reason why it's called alpha is because camera and hdmi don't work, but the rest is 99% done... I use it as my daily driver. So, why a good developer that's doing working ICS roms is left aside from XDA?

Cheers!!
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
I know it's closed, just posted the link to inform that the project had been tried, in answer to the PP.

As with Thor and XDA, better to let let dead dogs lay.

Cheers!
[Acer Iconia A500] blazingwolf:
Mines not dead. i just won't be posting about it here any more. More aggravation then I need to post here.
[Acer Iconia A500] hockeyrcks9901:
Because he refuses to release the source code to his kernel which is illegal. A site like this cannot stay open by allowing members to break the law.

It's a simple matter really. If he followed the law and posted the source code he would be allowed to keep his work here.

It has nothing to do with the quality of his work...
[Acer Iconia A500] Moscow Desire:
And you need to give it a rest. Mainly, because you don't have a clue as to what happened, or on why things happened like they did. Otherwise you would elaborate on all the names involved.

Let it lay, and don't start things again.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
In a nutshell you hit the nail right on the head. I haven't seen anyone post a negative comment about the quality of his work, just his non-compliance with the GPL (which he feels for whatever reason applies to everyone else but him). ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] lechuckthepirate:
But is there any other place where you'll be posting to be informed of your progress/problems/whatever ??

Cheers!
[Acer Iconia A500] spideyngo:
I find your long post thorough but seeded with angst & sarcasm which serves to stifle development, even if your motive is to promote compliance with the GPL- for which I agree with you by the way.

I own a G-Tablet and when angst & sarcasm pervades moderators posts it stopped development for a long while and folks migrated to Slate Droid. I'd prefer things were worked out here so that development stays here at XDA. I appreciate the volunteerism of being a moderator and compliance with GPL, we have enough vendors breaking this by selling products without releasing source so we must be faithful to the GPL.

I now see folks following the same pattern in the Iconia Tablet forum as the G-Tablet forum debacle and leaving XDA. This bothers me due to my respect for XDA. It makes me as a Acer Iconia A500 Tab owner feel like returning my product because it's discouraging quite frankly.

All that to say, if you are frustrated with development as a moderator it may be better to resolve it via PM and peacefully close the post. The angst and sarcasm in your tone serves as a discouragement. If you don't know how you sound when you write, then I suggest you not click send so quickly and re-read it before posting.
[Galaxy Tab General] cytokine:
The device and the touchscreen work, but none of the capacitive buttons (menu, home, back, search) are responding, even after reboot and even after a hard reset. Not even in recovery mode. Any suggestions ?
[Galaxy Tab General] archer201977:
Hey Bud, Mine has about a bit similar issue but not quite exactly the same as yours because my button sometimes works and most of the time responds like really slow or like not at all - of which i have to tap on it twice or multiple times to make it work. the worst button takes a lot of time or less to respond was my capacitive back button, the rest works fine but not always. i suspect that it may have something to do with the internal hardware... :( anyone here please shed some miraculous light here...
[Galaxy Tab General] agc93:
Not sure how to fix your issue, but in the meantime you can jump on the Android Market site on your PC, install Button Saviour then launch it as a replacement for your capacitive buttons. That should cover your needs.

Hope that helps!
[Galaxy Tab General] cytokine:
Thanks a million!

Still looking into the cause of the problem...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cjbailey75:
Anyone figure flash yet? Just get some big play sign or no video at all.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
isthis through stock browser or a 3rd party one? if 3rd party, which one?

need more details
[General Questions and Answers] KayxGee1:
I was wondering which OS to choose to start developing apps.

My views goes like this:

iOS- Money money money! (with the right concept)

Android- Add to android's growing collection of apps and help android come ontop

WP7- A chance to contribute to an underrated, beautiful OS that needs help

What would you choose? Why?
[General Questions and Answers] Kailkti:
WP7 because i love the ui, system amd infrastructure.

$1 gets you a reply
[General Questions and Answers] Dark lord me:
I agree develop for WP7 I really like the metro interface. After that develop for android so you get it widely known then come out with an iOS and then you make the money

WP7 -Charge a little bit for it

Android -Free but ad supported with a paid version

iOS -Charge a little bit for it

The simple fact is that android users are more likely to pirate but if you have a free version... And on WP7 and iOS people will be more willing to pay just make sure there is a demo
[General Questions and Answers] jglm4u:
I dont know whats the problem,but I cant get cwm on my huawei ascend ii.I have root it,i download rom manager and download cwm for huawei ascend ii ,and it says sucessfully downloaded and I click on recovery and it still have the stock recovery..anyone who can be so nice to tell me whats going on or what 2 do..thanks..
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] MODalicious:
Hey guys, so i'm the new one! :-)

I have some problem with my first attempt to put WP7 on my HD2.

I have succesfully put the HSPL 2.08, then the Radio 2.15.50.14 and after that the Magldr13 on my phone.

BUT after i tried to flash the "Pdaimatejam v4" ROM it had some error messages for the partitions, so i guess my 16GB Sandisk Class2 SD-card just isn't working.

So my installation failed :-(

I restarted my phone and now i'm stuck with the screen "booting wph, wph loading, 12345 go go go" followed by the start screen - after that nothing happens.

My question: How can I get back into the Magldr??

Am I guessing right that I now have to get a SD Card that works and flash back to WM6.5 and after that try to flash again? Or can I just try to flash again without going back to the stock?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] walidhazem:
to go to magldr options hold the end call button when you open it until the options appear.
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] dxdy:
look this instructions

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21010262&postcount=1217
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] MODalicious:
Thanks walidhazem I managed to get back to the Magldr screen!

Also thanks dxdy for the tutorial, I will try that today.

So as my installation failed, do I have to flash back to WM 6.5?? Will flashing back to WM6.5 delete the Radio 2.15.50.14?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] walidhazem:
anytime!

you dont have to, and if you choose to do, it will not delete the current radio
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] MODalicious:
Ok, so basically I just have to put a compatible SD-card in my phone, start the Magldr again and flash the ROM again? is that right? The old "failed" installation will be overwritten?
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] dazza9075:
Yup, finding a card is the tricky bit, once you have a working card your laughing.

It should install without an SD card at all, its not much use in that state but it means you can just hard reset the device rather than have to do the whole flash thing again.

Edit:

Oh an congrats on actually reading the threads! :) you wouldnt have got as far as you did without doing that and is alot more than most than most new folk do on here!
[HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an] MODalicious:
Well I have 3 other SD-cards around here. I will try them and hopefully one works. ;-)

Thanks, dazza9075. I've read many threads here, many tutorials and watched "how-to" tutorials on youtube. I guess I just like to be prepared! :-)
[HTC Rezound] smokindank42o:
eyh, i see that people are getting rather confused about gaming on the rezound so i thought id clear things out or help ppl who are trying to get the most out of gaming on the rezound and playing almost all high-end games on the rezound ....

ok so as for gameloft games i see people are worried that none come in actual 720p , well as for now only a few games do , but rezound has compatible scaling so most games will work , although you may see artifacts from hvga sized screens such as too small blood vignettes and smaller controls ect..., but most wont be a problem so long as you download and install the correct version of the game

now there are some tegra games playable on the rezound such as riptide gp , samurai vengence(they make non tegra also v1.0.1) and the football one idk what its called , anyways there are a few these are playable through the chainfire plugin which has been reported working on the rezound , but makes wallpaper veiwing unpleasant it does work , then use the tegra plugin obviously and play the game dont start the game before you do this

then there are the games just plain old not compatible there are only a few , but they do exist, one being the new modern combat 3 , a personal favorite .. now for these select few you need to change the build prop of the phone , a small file in the /android part of ur phone , there are tutorials on this change it to the nexus s build prop its the most compatible and easiest

___________now on to the list_________

gameloft___-version ---___

-9mm desire hd

-asphalt 6 desire hd

-backstab desire hd or i9000

-fast 5 desire hd or any other adreno

-modern combat 3 any adreno or snapdragon (must change build prop)

-nova 2 hd desire hd or desire z

-rainbow 6 desire hd

-and other work with desire hd im sure

-specifically not working

*sacred odyssey

*dungeon hunters 2 (too small of screen)

other games_____--------

shadow gun all versions

grand theft auto 3

street fighter iv (720p only)

dead space

n64oid

let me know what other high end or good games

all these games work with the nexus build prop also
[HTC Rezound] luna9698:
What about the game Order and Chaos? Would love to be able to play this game.
[HTC Rezound] smokindank42o:
i got that game working but couldnt get passed the pay per play drm try other crack versions? (desire hd cracks)
[HTC Rezound] Unreadhyperion:
Must change build.prop - That's what I've been trying to do. Mind if taking a request? What lines am I changing? I've tried just about everything I can think of. Even "bricked" my phone in some cases. I'm open to suggestions!