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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Wiley87:
So i've finally got the update, however I really don't like the fact the touch buttons don't work anymore. Surely if you pay for a product with touch buttons you expect them to STAY, rather than the company decide "no, you're not allowed them anymore".

Any way of getting functionality back, or will I have to revert back pre-Honeycomb?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
LeeDroids kernel/ROM have HW buttons
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Sweetpea8472:
I upgraded to HC yesterday and the first thing I did was installing Leedroids ROM and buying Honeybar. The first so I got my buttons back, the second to remove the honeycomb bar when I don't want it. Works perfectly!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Why yes, you can have your redundant hard buttons back !

You can send 100,000 Euro to HTC to make a new release , or you can install one of the custom rooted ROMs that give you your redundant buttons back.

Read a bit, you will learn new things.

PS:

for an extra 20K euro I will add a 5th hard button with the very useful function of "REBOOT and CATCH FIRE"
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
For those that prefer the capacitive buttons, they can install Honey Bar from the Market, and hide the notification bar. In that case, the buttons are no longer redundant.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
True, but you cannot get the reboot and catch fire function with that hack.

While Honeybar works most of the time, do be aware it is a root hack and does cause problems with some games and other apps.

Read the comments on market before thinking you have ROM problems if you install it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redandwhitearmy:
for me its better....however honeybar takes up space..... there is an advantage for me with HC on screen buttons because on GB many a tyms my games were minimised when my finger accidently touched the hardware keys... now software buttons r not clicked when i drag my finger onto them.... this is better for me... :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Wiley87:
the funny part about your post was..... actually, there wasn't a funny part. usually, aware me if i'm wrong, an UPDATE means that an existing product is made better through it's ORIGINAL state. buying a product with hardware buttons and then having them removed through a supposed update is like buying a car with a CD player and having the inside fully refurbished with the CD player being turned into a a cassette player.

my point being, I was unaware of such ROM's, so asked a simple question to which I received a perfectly good answer. the only input you have given in the thread is repeating an answer and adding unfunny comments with it.

how ironic, you could say you updated the original reply from Aiden the old fashioned HTC way.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ORTOX:
While DigitalMD is obviously a key member to the community his sarcasm and degrading forum posts do get annoying. (Don't take this the wrong way DigitalMD)

I completely agree with you about the HC update. Why HTC didn't provide the option to remove the lower bar and place the buttons back on the touch buttons on the device is beyond me. They removed a key feature of the device that I liked.

Guess I'll have to look into this LeeDroid rom. I was avoiding bothering with rooting. Kind of sick of messing with stuff as of late. Just causes headaches/complicates things.

Edit:

LeeDroid is only for Flyer... Any View Roms that add the buttons back?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ORTOX:
No View Roms to re-add buttons, huh? Or no one knows how to support the other users on this forum....
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
I do not believe that View has kernel source. Without it I do not believe the HW buttons can be enabled.

Written word on a website can be taken in many ways. I am a sarcastic ass myself and can see how sometimes comments I make can be taken the wrong way. good rule of thumb, try not to take any offense to anything posted on this forum
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
actually I wasn't being sarcastic,, I'm just extremely funny. And as far as degrading the forum, well we are here to help the newbies, people that run into problems and developers, not necessarily people that obsess about things that realistically cannot be fixed, but I appreciate your humor. While I do my best to answer and help reasonable questions, when people obsess about things that do not have a reasonable solution or do not understand or accept logical business decisions, I tend to point out the facts. Not everyone likes that. That's OK, I've been through several decades of computer and smart device development, you can't please everyone.

HTC didn't remove the HC system bar because Google designed HC that way and left no room for anyone to change that part of the GUI. They intended the system bar to be a center piece and all the moaning in the world won't change Honeycomb. HTC designed the Flyer, per-Honeycomb, before Google decided that future Android devices shalt not have buttons. Google left a little more leeway in ICS and the system bar can be hidden with a system call. They probably wanted it to act like Windows task bar and auto-hide, but were afraid they would have to cough up even more tribute to Microsoft for patent infringement.

I do like to inject some humor , especially with people don't get basic business principles such as Hardware vendors are not in business to fix every little issue you think you have, they are in business to make money. That often means they build a product that is good, but far from perfect because there is a vast amount of cost difference between good enough and perfect.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GMAN1722:
you tell 'em. seriously though, I see what you are saying and I agree with what you are saying. I am only saying this because I find when there are problems/issues that can be adequately addressed I feel that you (along with various others on this forum) are quite helpful.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ORTOX:
Here's to hoping I suppose. Maybe if I get ambitious I'll downgrade back to GB. While I understand why HTC released Honeycomb for the tablet, I don't understand why Google made the taskbar mandatory in HC.

The taskbar really gets in the way when using the tablet with handwriting apps and is kind of annoying when using the tablet for reading. It makes it harder to become fully immersed in the book (as corny as this might sound).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
I have 3 words for you:

Honeybar

:p
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GMAN1722:
and another three words are: HideBar
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] vlara:
and yet another 3 words are:

Honey Hide Widget (incase you want a widget to hide the bar)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GMAN1722:
I must apologize to you vlara because actually Honey Hide Widget is what I meant to refer to as that is what I use on your wonderful Rom HoneyPot. I use leedroid tweaks for the hardware buttons and am able to toggle between the system bar and the hardware buttons depending on my mood/use.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ORTOX:
So, I guess the best option for me if I decide to would be, downgrade to GB, and then upgrade to a rooted HC rom, then install one of these toolbar hiders. These all require root access, correct?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Hey those make 3 phrases!!

And no, just flash a HC rom.
[Motorola Photon 4G] wireless.praying.mantis:
Today is Gameloft's MC3's $0.99 deal which normally goes for $6.99 so head to the Market and download MC3 if you like high quality FPS games. I don't know which one's better, Modern Combat 3 or MADFINGER Game's ShadowGun. LOL!

https://market.android.com/details?...5nYW1lbG9mdC5hbmRyb2lkLkFOTVAuR2xvZnRNM0hNIl0.

update: Aw Hell! It looks like the deal ended this morning. :(
[Motorola Photon 4G] Shadow of Light:
I managed to get a copy yesterday. The thing literally took twenty minutes to download all the extra data :cool:

And, since this topic's already here. . . anybody want to play a match sometime? Maybe we could schedule a tourney? I'm not terribly good, but it'd be fun to play some other people from XDA.

Gameloft ID's Shadow_of_Light, by the way.
[Motorola Photon 4G] wireless.praying.mantis:
That is my #1 peeve about the Market. You only have 15 minutes from the time you download the apk from the Market yet it takes at least 15 minutes on the average to download the required files for that particular apk. WTH! I'll tell you this Shadow of Light, with the multiplayer version of MC3, it's awesome aside from the fact you may find yourself snipered 10 seconds right after the round starts. LOL!
[Motorola Photon 4G] Shadow of Light:
Rofl. So true, man. . . I have no idea how anybody can be a THAT good with clunky touchscreen controls. . .

Which reminds me: I seriously wish I could fire with the camera button. That would be amazing. Being forced to stop aiming to fire a round is just ridiculous.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Supergoodsmitto:
Both are awesome games, have been playing MC3 for a while now but i really like shadow gun reminds me of GOW
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
I'm not a gamer, but got to think about it. I already have enough games I'v paid for and don't really use. And its back to $6.99!
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
I just downloaded. Give me a month and schedule something as I want to be 1/2 decent. Maybe others will post!!!
[Motorola Photon 4G] Shadow of Light:
Oh, wow. Totally forgot about this thread. :eek:

So! Anyone still up for a tourney sometime soon?
[Motorola Photon 4G] DarkJatrix:
Let's start the tourney
[Motorola Photon 4G] Stephenhon:
Thanks dude,

Nice game:cyclops:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ST3MC:
sso i installed the latest nightly cm7 and i cant use boot sound i downloaded the thing i need to install in cwm but it wont install give me a prop error somthing like that and i tried the terminal command but no go ... so how can i enable boot sound ? thx in advance:eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ishangoyal:
I think it depends whether there is an audio in the boot animation or not... generally boot sound is controlled by system volume.. in CM7 I don't think there is any audio included in boot animation.. (I could be wrong though)
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr.Quipster:
Is there an uncap hack for this? A patch perhaps? I'm currently using the XRon-ified ROM. I know there's a patch for WebOS, but is there one for CM7 based ROMS?
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr.Quipster:
BTW, the hack for WEBOS goes to 100fps. Awesome yeah?
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr.Quipster:
Come on guys! I know someone has the anwer!! Lol..
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChronoReverse:
The screen itself doesn't refresh faster than 60fps. There's really no need to unlock vsync and have it tear all over the place.
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr.Quipster:
Lol. I know it doesn't refresh faster than that rate. I'm completely aware of that. My question is simply " Is there a hack for this cap"?

I personally would like it to be uncapped. I think it can open more doors for video lag or what not...
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr.Quipster:
Does anyone have a reply for this!?

Can someone tell me if there is a hack or patch for the cap on the FPS?
[TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr.Quipster:
Still no answer

Can someone please answer this question!

If the WebOS can do it, which btw goes up to 100 FPS, why can't android have a FPS hack?
[Legend General] muks11:
Ok, just found one from the web but now when I go to "flash clockworkmod recovery" there is a blank screen at the su request. I tried clearing the "superuser permissions" under applications but it made no difference. Anyone got any ideas?

I still dont understand why I could'nt see ROM Manager in the Market place.
[Legend General] gaga111:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager

login with your google account and press install

problem solved :)
[Legend General] bigik pelir:
i follow your instruction...and when i try to install ROM from SD Card..it only for PREMIUM users.....answer me Mr Profesor
[Legend General] ranger4740:
OK your obviously trying to download a rom from clockworkmod . Down load it manually from the dev forums, put it on your SD card then flash it.

sent from my legend using zeubeas cm9 beta2
[Legend General] Stevemotto:
Are you rooted?

Because rom manager should come installed once you root your legend?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kaeps:
Hi,this accessory is compatible with the sk17 mini pro ???

usb2HDMI

is very good but i do not idea if is compatible with SK17...

regards
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] dumraden:
I dont think so. A smartphone does not have the ability to install drivers for external devices.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kaeps:
ok,think same,but, how nokia have this technology and Android not ???

nokia have this accessory with symbian 3,how is possible it ???

the nokia N8 by example with de "Usb on the go" conect this accessory like mass storage usb.

android will have some app for this ???

regards :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] dumraden:
Yea but it isnt a mass storage device now, is it?

You can buy it and try it, although i highly doubt that it will work.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] TheLostOne:
I think the phone needs to support MHL if I remember correctly and I don't think that the sk17i supports it.

Edit: just checked the link and it also says MHL:-P so forget my post.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] TakamineSubasa:
I asked for TV-out some weeks ago, and today i saw this:

-> http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kostass123:
Does any of these hdmi cables work with xperia mini???

Has anyone tried it?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
To this kind of adapter work, the phone need the MHL circuit in your microUsb. The mhl cable from Accel have the analogix slim port technology.

I asked to Sony support and they say what the xperia mini and mini pro don't have mhl circuit, but if you have a friend with the cable and the device, try, is like think outside the box you know :p.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hijagdeep:
Sony Support persons Dont know anything ..they r just like puppets ..they only tell u the features which we see in their website and not more than that...

Few weeks ago i asked them about usb devices attached to my xperia mini pro they said Ur mobile noot support this .then i bought cable from ebay and today i recieved the cable ..

It support Wired keyboard ,,mouse and also wireless (tested today with mine microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse combo)...

Now Finding the way to use storage drive on phone...

Bro u have to take risk by purchasing that cable

According to me it should work
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Nice.

Yeap I totally agree with you, support haven't knowledge enough for this case for example. And this is the reason about say "think outside the box". Well mhl in Brazil is something what exist like unicorns, only on web. The only one I've found is the official for Samsung Galaxy, but here a bit expensive (I mean 11% of all I earn per month) in comparison with other cables outside the country. I'm searching where I can test on the store or find someone what have.

Regards.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] urra901109:
using storage drive on the phone is easy.. but need to be rooted http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25775730&postcount=46
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hijagdeep:
Not able to root my phone

i have xperia mini pro with 2.3.4 android version build number .62

I searched every forum there is not any way discovered till now to root .62 firmware

Did u know any way to root .62 firmware ..

Update:

Succesfuly Root my xperia mini pro but able to get suucees in using storage device
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Just googling around:

http://ubercable.com.au/product_info.php/mhl-hdmi-cable-suits-some-xperia-arc-neo-models-p-360

http://ubercable.com.au/product_info.php/mhl-hdmi-adapter-suits-some-xperia-arc-neo-models-p-359

See the description, I think is fake info.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] edgar0204:
MHL to hdmi

A friend of mine will buy a MHL to hdmi cable, I will ask him the cable to try if the sk17 work with it but I do not have too much hope it will work
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Welcome to a big club :(, let's stop this pain and face the truth :o. I'm waiting for your feedback and we can end this. But be happy, we can wait for xBounds ;).

EDIT: { I know what you need plug the power cable in the adapter, plug the hdmi in the adapter and tv, and the usb in the mobile, so you must wait something like 5 or 10 minutes or a lil more, in mhl mobiles the delay exists also. Try to see if something happens in Service Menu > HDMI }

EDIT2: { expectation... haha}

And the feedback is....
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jumpjack:
Tuned. :-)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] sss2sssss:
This screenshot is taken from my Xperia mini's service menu...

I think actually even in Xperia mini can HDMI-out but just no port for us to do it....
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Yes, see my latest post on this topic:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1590353

And we wanna know if mhl is not here on mini.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Someguyfromhell:
That HDMI menu is on all phones, however we believe there is no way to make it work as hardware is not built for that.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jumpjack:
Yes, I read somwehere that't a specifici circuitry on the USB port is required.

But it's weird that my service menu doesn't report "missing mhl circuit" just like it reports "missing temperature sensor" or "missing pressure sensor". :confused:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
The service menu have some features and the displayed features can be supported or not. For example, on stock rom 2.3.3, my service menu don't appear waterproof test, but in 2.3.4, appear and this feature isn't supported.

So, if don't have feature to test MHL is just because the developers don't want to put for some reason. Ask for Google to put :p.

Altougth HDMI, on most android, is supported in case of software, when you run the test, you just see an colored screen, or some empty values, this is correct because theres no HDMI cable connected, and if you find a way to plug HDMI cable, well, the software support is already ready.

Well, the only way to confirm if MHL is here or not, is just plug the cable and see what happens.

BTW edgar0204, you tested?

EDIT: LOL, dudes, searching on web, every single post, almost all, when a guy says "I'm going test", have the same end: the guy disappear and no result is reported. This can be black magic when you try to plug the cable and the device? Haha ><.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] XperianPro:
So does MHL cable work?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
We don't know yet ><.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Domik234:
Xperia Mini, Xperia Mini Pro - doesn't support HDMI (Won't work - Tested on Samsung U32D5520)

Htc Sensation - (Tested - working with HTC or other cables - Tested on Samsung U32D5520)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Thanks! :cool:

"A case to end all cases."

EDIT: I think this thread can be closed now. The verdict is: by physical test, theres no MHL circuit in micro-usb input of the Xperia Mini and Mini Pro. So, USB to HDMI is not possible.

oh xBounds, when, when xP....
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] avatar_pt:
Well still waiting for this guy to show up...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
Is really strange because he give an software resource, but about hdmi hardware - magic maybe? what kind of output he is using?

LOL or just he posted on a wrong thread.

Seriously, the only thing strange is the output, that is the true issue to achieve.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jumpjack:
Tested this one, no luck:

http://www.ebay.it/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821536256

TV doesn't see HDMI port until I connect also USB power; then TV allows selecting the HDMI input... but nothing is shown, not even starting the test video on the phone.

Cable is defined as specific for a specific model of tablet, but of course I can't buy a dozen of different cables hoping to find the right one!

But... does the Mini Pro docking station support HDMI?

---------- Post added at 01:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:06 PM ----------

I'm confused now:

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666367167

Official Sony Ericsson USB/HDMI cable for Xperia Mini Pro??? :eek:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] loCe45:
I dont see Xperia Mini Pro mentioned anywhere... and besides, it's micro HDMI to HDMI, not micro USB... It's probably for Neo and similar phones with micro HDMI port.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] alliktaavo:
If you look under the compatability tab, then under the "Discontinued mobile phones" title you can actually see Mini Pro. And the micro end seems to me at least USB.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] loCe45:
if you look closely, you'll see it's saying HDMI at the smaller end
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] jumpjack:
I just sent a specific question about the topic to SE.

Let's see...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] GregórioAxiaMagno:
You mean the LiveDock? If yes, no :rolleyes:.

About the HDMI cable, Sony can write web page with wrong information. When I saw my ST15 at website, in specification was said that have hdmi out, I contacted Sony and they removed this site and made a new one.

There's no HDMI out at Mini Pro, I mean hardware.

But post the Sony reply.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] alliktaavo:
I actually saw that. It was the only weird thing, but it still seems to me like it COULD be a micro USB end. Just say'in. :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] loCe45:
They're visually almost identical
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] alliktaavo:
Good to know ! :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] riscascbr600:
cool !!

keyboard and mouse work on mini pro?

what is the link of purchases?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] loCe45:
Yeah, you just need OTG usb cable. Search it on ebay, you can get it for few bucks.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] riscascbr600:
OTG ?!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] loCe45:
Yes, USB OTG (on-the-go) cable. Example.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] riscascbr600:
It support Wired keyboard ,,mouse and also wireless (tested today with mine microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse combo).

this works in android games?

edit:

found this:

http://www.tinydeal.com/pt/1080p-micro-usb-to-hdmi-mhl-adapter-cable-for-mobile-phone-p-63776.html

and this:

http://www.tinydeal.com/pt/24ghz-rii-mini-i8-wireless-92-key-keyboard-mouse-p-53759.html

works on mini pro?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hijagdeep:
yah it works....in my xperia mini pro with all hd games

I tried in asphalt,,Gta3 mobile
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] unfreenaute:
Hello,

When you say "it works", it means that you have the video of your phone Xperia Mini Pro in a TV monitor with the Micro USB-HDMI cable (tinydeal) ?

Thanks for answer.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hijagdeep:
No I'm not talking about hdmi..

I'm only talking about that wireless mouse with usb

Sent from my Xperia ZL