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[Android General] ARGHA_DAS:
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[Android General] kalikotpepot:
Folder is empty

when trying to extract, it says it's invalid. Windows XP 64bit here. Help.
[Android General] Llamas_are_Good:
The Zip file has no content in it :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] magnimus1:
The predominant reasoning for this on the interwebz was because of the 'curve' of the screen. I never did understand if this was the concave curve of the screen from top to bottom or the convex curve of the screen around the edges. (you know...the one that makes dry screen protectors bubble up around the edges if they are not a few mm smaller)

HOWEVER,

This morning, Anandtech released their review of the Nokia Lumia 800. That phone has both macro and micro curves (I've held the N9 with the same glass) and that glass is Corning Gorilla glass!

I understand that Gorilla glass can be scratched with a material hard enough etc.,etc. I just want to point out, it doesn't seem to be a technological limitation that keeps Gorilla Glass from our phones.

Below is the incomplete link:

Anandtech.com/show/5266/nokia-lumia-800-review-nokias-brave-new-foray-into-wp7/6
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GuestK00216:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jstegeman:
And what will you do with the information about why it doesn't have gorilla glass? It doesn't change the fact that it doesn't have it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 3devious:
I thought the screen was made of a tough glazing by Corning but not Gorilla glass. I treat this almost the same as my Motorola stuff but I did case the back of it because it's like paper. I'm much more worried about the back than the screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kwakshot:
It's funny cuz you can't scratch any phone screen ever with keys...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ViceVirtue:
I managed to scratch mine within days of getting it. I'm not sure how, but it's rather frustrating. It would be nice if it remained pristine for at least a few weeks...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bnguyen1983:
My GN has a hair line scratch that can be seen at an angle on a black screen. Its a bit annoying since im OCD but compared to my Epic 4G and the abuse that one went through its kinda sad.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MisterEdF:
Why? Simple. Because they have to kill too many Gorilla's to make the glass.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] magnimus1:
I did hear that Corning has a new product out called 'Lotus glass'.....but the primary feature of that product (if I remember right) was large scratch resistant touch screen surfaces like TVs etc. I think there may be some physical limitation that keeps gorilla glass from being used on devices much larger than a laptop. Lotus glass was supposed to solve that.

But you're right, I KNOW the rest of the case is going to scuff. With or without a case. Just give it six months. Unless you go the polymer skins route.

Anyways......It isn't about what you're going to do with the information now. It was just interesting that the main reason cited as behind why Gorilla glass (and search ANY forum for the clamor behind the Gnex not having it) does not appear to be true.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] magnimus1:
I literally LOL'ed!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GinoSylum:
A few months back I said the hell with screen protectors on my Droid Incredible. I knew I was getting a new phone soon anyway. The incredible has gorilla glass, and it is now covered with a bunch of tiny little scratches. No glass is scratch proof, it's all in how you treat it. If you have a desk job and you are careful with you phone, you probably won't scratch it up too bad. If you work construction, you may still mess it up with an otter box.

If the nexus had gorilla glass there would still be threads about scratches on the screen. We probably went from a 95% chance that you won't scratch your screen to a 91% chance you won't scratch the screen with this new glass. If you don't buy it, look at most phones with gorilla glass that are not handled carefully and you'll see scratches.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chirea.mircea:
Glass is still glass. You can make it slightly stronger, but at the end it's still glass. Treat your large touchscreen phone well and you won't have problems.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] imbogdan:
:-) I've Lol'ed so hard that my wife woke up :-)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nomisunrider:
Why does it matter what type of hardened glass it has? Do you know for a fact that the glass they went with for the galaxy nexus scratches easier than gorilla glass, or do you just know the gorilla glass "name" so you like to utter it like a monkey?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GSI:
LOL m8 Loved your explanation :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shawn_230:
Exactly! It all comes down to the user.

You scratched up an Incredible with Gorilla Glass, and I personally have had various phones w/o Gorilla Glass and I never use cases or screen protectors and they were all in mint condition when I passed them onto someone else.

So moral of the story, focus less on what brand the glass is and more on how you protect your phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GinoSylum:
Yup.. When I took care of my Incredible it was always in perfect shape. Then I stopped giving a crap when the Nexus was announced and I knew I was switching. Gorilla glass or not, scratches showed up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jaypr9:
Ive never used a screen protector with my INC2 and tried hard as hell to be very careful with it but some how I got a small scratch in it within 3 weeks. I'm not sure how much less or more the GN screen is but I'm trying to avoid using a screen protector on it all because I love the naked feel.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] unremarked:
You know what happened the last time I talked up Gorilla Glass on a Droid RAZR?

The guy I was talking to took the RAZR, banged it as hard as he could on the desk corner, and cracked/powdered the screen. "Not so tough," he said.

Moral of this story is you, the user, can protect your phone far better than any manufacturer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wonshikee:
Everything is about $$.

Nexus has a few extra things that probably push it's cost higher, so they are likely going with an unbranded version, in order to keep the cost down enough.

I'm sure the screen is pretty costly in itself, while the Note is same resolution and tech - it's bigger so probably easier to make.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Broadleynine:
Because the Gorillas haven't approved the new collective bargaining agreement and right now they're stuck on profit division between Corning and the Gorillas.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carne_Asada_Fries:
Don't know why this is an issue, Samsung's own fortified glass is equally as good if not better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] probaina:
I have gorilla glass in my Samsung Captivate and Asus Transformer. Neither have ever gotten a single scratch. Dropped both of them multiple times out of the car, onto metal vents, and the garage floor face down. My 3 year old has dropped and abused my Transformer as well and even chipped the aluminum border. I got my Galaxy Nexus and took incredible care of it, and within the first week got mild scratches and a one little one I can feel with my finge nail. Never dropped it once and always had it in an empty pocket. In my opinion this is no where close to as tough as Gorilla glass was. Gorilla glass might get scratched with enough abuse, but my Galaxy Nexus got scratched almost as easy as normal glass. Actually it scratches as easily as the Iphone 4 does in my experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
It's because the glass is contoured. I don't think Gorilla Glass is made to work on contoured glass.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cordell507:
just buy a damn 0.50 cent screen protector from ebay and quit making threads!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shoman24v:
Mine has a couple scratches in it that you can only see under light. Nothing you can feel but they are there. Got some Seidio screen protectors now though.

Keys are the worse example to test scratching on. Try something sharp.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bowsersoulstar:
I'm sure this all can be rectified if we put some fruit logo somewhere on our phones that doesn't have Gorilla Glass. I mean, theres a company out there the has a massive following once they put out a product and slap on a fruit logo. It seems as if no matter what, once that logo is on, everything is superior and nothing comes close to it according to the folks who buy it.

/sarcasm

If my above sarcasm was confusing, it's just the way I feel about this whole Gorilla Glass vs Fortified Glass debate. Again, it's just my opinion; marketing. Corning seems like it's likely the frontrunner on most of the smartphone glass and they seem to market the hell out of it. It has a better brand recognition than the so called Fortified Glass and in the general public, with the perception is that it's a superior quality.

Whether or not this is true, I can't say. What I can say is that I've had devices that had both Corning products and those that didn't (including my Gnex). I'm with the "glass is glass" camp with this one based purely on my experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
i mostly agree with this. i wouldn't be surprised if corning is top notch glass and better than fortified glass but this is where i slightly digress. i treat glass like it's glass and try not to break or scratch it. i don't want to be the next nerd that makes another thread about glass. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skynet11:
I can say one aspect of the Gnex screen is not just marketing: the oleophobic treatment - this screen is much more smudge resistant than my Fascinate and Captivate.

Terminators run on Android :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aohus:
correct :)

also fyi, if you're cleaning your display using chemicals you're doing it wrong. you're essentially wiping off the oleophobic material from the screen over time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] momentarylapseofreason:
On another note... I don't work construction and haven't dropped the phone on anything particularly hard (can recall a drop on a indoor/outdoor carpet a few days ago).

Short of putting a screen protector on though, I always get tiny scratches all over my phones. Pretty sure they made my jean pockets out of sandpaper
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wonshikee:
It's got to be because of money.

The nexus is probably expensive to build - has a bunch of things most other phones don't have.

1) SAMOLED HD on a 4.65" screen

2) Big battery with NFC

3) Pogo pins

4) Gyro

5) Barometer

6) fast shutter camera

7) curved glass

8) Super sexy looking with extra topping of sleekness (k i made that up)

And probably some other things I forgot

Oh yeah, pentaband radio.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
apparently, they skimped on the fuel gauge chip to. the max17040 apparently costs about 89 cents in 1000 quantities and the max17042 costs about $3 in 1000 quantities. i would've paid the extra 2 dollars for current readings.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ikediggety:
^^^^^^^^^^ THIS.

I'm more than willing to risk a tiny scratch here or there for the benefit of not having to wipe my phone off after 30 seconds of use, like I used to have to do with my old dinc.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MMcCraryNJ:
What people don't realize most of the time is that any type of fortified glass, Gorilla Glass or not, can only do so much. And what most people also don't realize is that keys and keychains and pens/pencils and other things that would likely be in Joe Everyday's pocket don't have the grit level required to scratch fortified glass, but certain types of dirt, including a single grain of sand, has high grit levels that will VERY easily scratch even the best fortified glass.

This is why there are so many complaints that say, "I can throw my keys around with my phone no problem, but for some reason the phone scratched in my pocket with nothing in it!" The dirt that accumulates at the bottom of your pocket does this. And nothing is immune to it. Not even the almighty iPhone 4, hence why Apple banned hard iPhone cases in their own stores because dirt was getting lodged between the back glass and the case, causing the back glass to crack from even just a few specs of dirt.

What's the answer to it all? Buy a screen protector and be done worrying about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dirk:
I'd suggest using a pouch. After 18 months of using the supplied neoprene pouch, my N1 is pristine. Seriously, you couldn't tell to look at it that it's not brand new.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shawn_230:
Or wash your pants more often! :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sluflyer06:
Which unfortuantely wears off on every single phone I've seen after 2-3 weeks, GN included. First 2 weeks I COULD NOT get that screen to smudge or get oily for all my efforts..I was IMPRESSED. Then slowly it started getting smudges more and more often until now its like any other phone and smudges relatively easily.

I've never used a chemical on it and only wiped it with clean microfiber lens cleaners.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Samzebian:
Does the gnex actually have a barometer???
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
It's just ground and polished into that shape. Anything that can be scratched can be ground, as the latter is just systematic scratching. They didn't actually bend the glass or anything exotic like that. They just took a thicker flat piece, ground a slice out of it and polished it. You can make out the not-100%-smooth machining on the bottom 1/2 of the panel because the reflections off it aren't 100% perfect. There's some ripple distortions in anything reflected from the glass (like your face) The top 1/2 has perfect reflections, no wavyness. Superbly ground to optical perfection.

Also, in certain light, you can see that the back side of the panel isn't flat, nor is the LED screen. An interesting piece of hardware though. Compare the ground glass to the rippled distortions on phones like the Rezound.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iansmith:
I've done some hardware design and the problem is that $2 ends up about $10 by the time it gets to the customer. Still not a lot of money, to us. But how often have you seen phones sell for $304.23? You see $199 or $299 with contracts. So if manufacturing costs go up a few dollars, someone is eating that... and losing millions of dollars.

I wish they would have put the more expensive chip in too. But apparently they didn't think it was a big enough selling point, and are probably right. The majority of smartphone owners with that chip probably have no idea that data is available, and wouldn't care if they did.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wessiide:
I can attest to the fact that gorilla glass seems to be much more scratch resistant. I have a fascinate for about a year and a half with no screen protector. dropped it on several occasions and when all is said and done I had only 1 minor scratch. 2 day I dropped my nexus flat on its face on the floor board of my truck with little bits of dirt... and now have a multitude of scratches minor anyway on my phone's screen. It is glaringly obvious to me now that gorilla glass works wonders
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dinan:
Are the scratches actually in the screen or is it the oleophobic coating scratched off? The 1st gen Galaxy S phones didn't have oleophobic coating, but the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus do. The Galaxy S2 had oleophobic coating and people reported similar "scratches" that they didn't have on their original Galaxy S which turned out to be the coating.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
The LG G2x has gorilla glass and it has tapered edges (feels great). I had one and somehow I got 2 micro scratches on the screen. I couldn't really see it unless it was viewing a white background (google homepage).

So it doesn't matter. Gorilla glass or some other fortified glass, they are all the same. Gorilla glass is just a brand, this doesn't mean there aren't other brands that are just as good or better.

Also the stronger the glass, the more shatter prone it is. Perhaps with the shape/design of the curvature of the glass, Gorilla glass proved to shatter more commonly when dropped vs the fortified glass currently being used.

Maybe the new glass used in the Galaxy Nexus is designed to withstand the apocalypse this year, who knows.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tannor:
I don't have any scratches yet..but just curious if what you are saying is true, I am not entirely sure how it helps or does it? You still see scratches even if the coating or glass right?

Unless you are saying there is away to get rid of if it is the coating.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shawn_230:
Yes it does, just like the original Motorola Xoom tablet.

Apparently it's for getting a quicker GPS lock, but I think the WeatherEye app has a barometer readout... well the Honeycomb version did anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] McDeadagain:
I hope there is some further context to this story, otherwise if I'm you I wouldn't talk to this dude anymore... ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Valynor:
I challenge all you guys from the "Gorilla Glass does not scratch" faction to do the following experiment:

- collect a single grain of sand, the glass-like "clear" kind, i.e. a quartz crystal (e.g. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Sand_from_Gobi_Desert.jpg )

- carefully place it on your display

- place a finger on it and rub it over the display

- inspect your display

- hate yourself for doing what you just did
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vapotrini:
Will you please just give it up? Seriously... it's gotten old.

You think Gorillas glass is just as easy to scratch as the glass on the Nexus, good for you. Others here, myself included, disagree. Why can't you just accept this and move on?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Valynor:
Please educate yourself about hardness. This would be a good starting point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardness

TL;DR: harder stuff scratches softer stuff. Easily.

From the point of view of a quartz crystal (common sand) it makes no difference in what kind of glass it comes in contact with. It's all nice and soft and easy to scratch. Even hardened glass and even hardened glass with a *gasp* brand name.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
do the test to your phone and let us know how it goes. then i'll be convinced. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Valynor:
I prefer my Nexus Prime in its current condition: Unscratched (with no screen protector). :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stretched:
It's made of bits of real panther..err gorilla, so you know its good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLq2-uZd5LY
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonathan3579:
Oh God... another one of these threads? Why can't you people just be ****ing happy with your purchase? If you aren't happy with it then please return it, sell it, give it away or do whatever but all this *****ing and moaning makes this section and others look bad.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shawn_230:
Same here, I'm the same. Thank jebus, I was starting to think I'm the only person not hung up on Gorilla Glass and/or a flawless screen during my entire ownership of something that will be obsolete in a year anyway.

When did they even start putting Gorilla Glass in phone? I've owned cell phones since 1998 and none have had scratches on the screen regardless of the glass/material being used.

One or two of them had scratches on the body but never on the screen, even in the old days of plastic resistive touchscreens.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vapotrini:
The music is playing but it's like no one is home.

You actually needed wikipedia to tell you that harder stuff scratches softer stuff?

You just keep missing the point over and over and over again.

Gorilla glass can be scratched of course, but it's harder to scratch than the glass on the Nexus. Does that finally compute?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 4u2nvinmtl:
My Gnex has 6-8 scratch's on it and I've done nothing but baby it compared to my old SGS Vibrant. The Vibrant I've dropped countless times and I've let my 4y old son play with it when ever he desires as well as putting it in pockets filled with keys and lose change. The Gnex on the other hand I have never put face down, never dropped, never in a pocket with something else. Yet its scratched... IDK why or how I'm just saying the phone can be scratched by my eyelashes if I tried hard enough.

The only good things I can say about the Gnex I own is that its faster (than my vibrant) and the coating on the glass helps prevent finger smudge a lot as well as getting the phone for free with my Fido $ and the 720p is sweet.

p.s. that you tube video of the car keys is wrong IMHO. The Gnex I own would prob scratch like a hot key in butter!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Simer03:
I dropped my nexus today on my kitchen hardwood floor....I have no case and no screen protector....it did nothing! No scratches, dents, dings, or anything! I was shocked cuz it hit HARD!

sent from my Nexus Prime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] s2d4:
you are holding it wrong.

If you are the type to scratch it even babying it, get a screen protector..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Simer03:
I'm done with protection....im using my phone the way Google and Samsung intended! If u scratch it or drop it, its on you! Not them! That's the way I see it at least

When I place my phone in my pocket, I usually hold the phone upwards with the screen to my palm and slide it in my pocket with my hand, and then after its in my pocket, I flip so the screen is facing my thigh so ur not scraping the screen against your belt or something while going in ur pocket! It works...no scratches or anything! And yes, I do check under a light to make sure :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jnutz:
Same here. Got a scratch on the first day. My galaxy a went through Hell and never got a scratch on it. Whatever this screen is made of gorilla glass is better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] poody:
We got some thread necromancy going on here...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] costlyman:
Ppl mind it... sometimes its not even a scratch but a hair line crack. If you can feel the cut then its a scratch, if u can't then its a crack under the glass.

This was discussed in a thread which u can find it if u search.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
Ever heard of Gorilla Glass 2? Allows more curved displays? Ya. That's whats in the Lumia.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vapotrini:
Forget gorilla glass, this is what we need from here on in...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92CvRflk18
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jiangheng:
I believe the reason that GN not using Gorilla Glass is the contour screen, gorilla glass can only be made as a uniform 1mm thick flat panel (o.8mm for gorilla 2), while the contour display requires a glass with non-uniform thickness.

and from my inspection of broken glasses (yes, I've got my GN broken, as well as a ipod touch 4, which uses gorilla glass), the "fortified" layer is significantly thinner on the GN than on the ipod. (the fortified layer will be deformed around the crack due to tension, so it can be observed by the wideness of the deformed area)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Smokeey:
I've dropped my phone several times onto concrete and no scratches/cracks.

Whatever this phone has is just as good as Gorilla Glass, just without the fancy marketing/name.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andrewsoong:
Amazing how a "cool" name makes everyone jump on board.

What do people think, no mobile from this day on should use anything but Gorilla Glass? My old phone had Gorilla Glass and it scratched to hell. And was terrible with fingerprints.

I'm sure it's gotten better but they certainly aren't the only option when it comes to mobile screens.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ferris2375:
I had a GS2 that I took great care of and it got a scratch on the screen. I've had the GN since release and have taken the same care, no scratches. Glass scratches no matter what the hell you call it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zeke1988:
my left pocket is reserved for my phone. only. ONLY!!!