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[LG Optimus 2x] Medizinmann:
Hello!

It is always about your needs...

But I see one big problem with the iPhone 4 16GB – your stuck with these 16GB and from my personnel experience this isn’t really much. I ordered a 32GB SDHC the moment I ordered my LG P990 and it is almost full including the build in 8GB… I actually very tempted to try one of the 64GB SDXD cards available – will order one and try it when the prices come down little more. ;):D

And compared to an iPhone 4 the LG P990 should be faster – I have seen some tests on youtube – but don’t have a link handy right now – and these tests where actually with the stock browser on stock rom…and custom roms are even a lot faster.

The rest is about taste…

IMHO Android is more versatile and I like the UI concept more, but this is purely dependent on what you like.

My tip go to some store where you can actually touch the phone and play around with it a little – even though the LG P990 is on stock not as fast ass it could be, but you get a basic idea of the look and feel.

I made this comparison between iPhone 4, SG2, HTC Sensation and LG P990…now guess which phone won… ;):cool::):D
[LG Optimus 2x] bbeni:
much smaller, and little bit better :)
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Heh you know if you asked this in the iphone section or a more iphone friendly area you would be told to get the iphone 4 or the 4s because they dont even know what a non apple product is.
[LG Optimus 2x] Medizinmann:
Yes, your are most probably right and that is why we should try to do better here - especially since many people around here will know the look and feel of the iPhone 4 too...;)

And as I wrote I personally like the UI concept of android more and he should try both before making that decision.

Speedwise the Optimus 2x should be a little faster – but not that much since I must admit the software of the iPhone is usually over all a little bit better optimized.

But IMHO the biggest con against any iPhone and also to the most recent Google phone is the lack of an SD-card slot – this is/would be a absolute no go for me…
[LG Optimus 2x] oleg1981:
if IP4 would had 4" screen i wouldnt even thinking.
[LG Optimus 2x] Avfcman:
Thanks everyone for the feedback, I think I might give it a chance, though i will have to order it from Amazon UK as there are no phone stores around my town that stock O2x's.

I also didn't post on an apple section as I know what the replys would be to buy the iPhone as 50%-70% of apple owners only buy apple products as they Have the fruit logo and defend it.

Just another thing to touch on, if I did get the O2x i wouldn't root it for approx. 6-8months in-case an issue would occur and therefore i would be able to use warranty. What is the Stock rom like? And is it Usable?

Rooting:

I would assume rooting is a bit like jail-breaking, just run a program and its done?

and flashing roms, you just put them on an SD card and flash using clockworkrecovery?

Thanks again

:)
[LG Optimus 2x] ppp0941:
i will say buying an iPhone4 is just an action of ifanboy:mad:
[LG Optimus 2x] sander-m:
Rooting is not difficult, just as easy as jailbreaking the iOS devices. I sold my iPod touch 4th gen a few months ago and I know the differences between these products.

First of all, I want to remark that the optimus 2x still has a lot of issues. Random reboots, sleep of deaths, charging BSODs, memory leaking. These are very common issues which I experienced myself. Especially if you use the stock LG rom, make sure you remember this.

Most probably you won't void your warranty if you flash custom roms because you will be able to flash back to stock LG rom with kdz/smartflash methods.

If you are looking for a stable phone I honestly would not recommend the O2X at this moment. It is a nice phone with current CM7-kangs or modded kernel/modded stock rom, but the LG roms are real crap imo and you may still have problems even with xda roms.

Samsung for example has much better stock roms. You might look for the Galaxy R for example which looks great to me.

Nevertheless the o2x is really cheap for a dualcore phone with decent IPS screen. Real bang for the bucks. It's so much faster than my previous iPod Touch 4th gen. (Same processor as iPhone 4)

If you have no problems with claiming warranty if you have issues amd if you dont care to flash custom roms, the o2x could be a good choice.

(Sorry for language mistakes, my native language is Dutch)
[LG Optimus 2x] Avfcman:
Thanks for the Feedback, I though most problems were fixed with the gingerbread update? Correct me if i'm wrong.

Though i would not be able to purchuse the Galaxy R as it is out of my bugdet of less than £300 and everywhere i look its about £350+
[LG Optimus 2x] Medizinmann:
You can always flash back a stock rom in case you might need warranty…

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1035041

Is the stock rom usable - Well in German one would say “Jein”(Yes and No with a little more to the Yes - or more like it depends...).

The old froyo LG stock rom is undisputable absolute crap. The newer GB-Updates are usable, my girlfriend is on pure stock rom and it works. You might need to reboot from time to time, because of its memory leaks the phone gets laggy, but you can use it. BTW: Since the Update to v20l her LG P990 didn't have SOD/BSOD or random reboot. But she doesn't use any 3D-Games - mostly Internet browsing using Dolphin browser, WhatsApp and GoSMS...

I would definitely recommend a custom rom anyway – because you get more speed and stability.

Yes, you can plug it in to a PC and use SuperOneClick.

http://shortfuse.org/

…or this method.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1327599

...then install clockworkmod form the Android market, put a rom of your liking on your sd card and your got to go… ;):D
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Yes it did for the most part i have.only suffered from a few random reboots usually when i havnt rebooted in a while an iv just exited a memory intensive app or game.

Don't even kno what sleep of death is so iv never encountered it even on stock froyo.

Every single phone however sufferers from problems of its own the iphone tended to over heat and so too does the sgs2 which i find funny because its gpu only renders color in 16bit and the device costs about £400 users are tricked by its samoled display and yet our o2x or at least mine has never overheated iv even gamed while charging and it stayed cool. I only payed £200 for my o2x brand new off ebay so ill defend it till the cows come home considering the price/performance and issues with other devices.
[LG Optimus 2x] sander-m:
Yes, the LG GB update (20L/20M) solves a lot of problems. But some problems still remain, like the (horrible) memory leak and some random reboots.

So stock LG GB is usable but very mediocre. You need to reboot the phone every 48 hour because of the memory leak. (Because the memory 'leaks' away which causes the phone to slow down). This is very noticable and annoying especially if you are used to Apple iOS which is very consistent in terms of performance. (But I prefer android anyway)
[LG Optimus 2x] Avfcman:
Thanks for all the feedback again.

Just a couple more questions!

Whats Battery Life Like Whilst Playing music and videos etc

Do you think i should buy it for the £249.99 mark or wait till it drops again to £199.99?
[LG Optimus 2x] oleg1981:
no! to expencive! iv got my new from adds for 200$ 4month ago
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Search ebay for a good deal i think its already gone down to the 200 and below mark.

Depends as with everything deends on your brightness setting music with screen off would be similer to the phone sitting idle, wether you have wifi or 3g on or off so its difficult say video depends on wether your uaing hardware or sofware decode, hardware is good for battery software not so good, so for longer battery use containers and formats supported by the hardware 3gp,mp4,xvid,mkv ect.
[LG Optimus 2x] Avfcman:
Have had a look on ebay, and would only buy new, but the lowest I could find was £252 maybe it will go down, just will have to keep looking

Plus not really a bit fan of ebay as i've been scammed a couple of times

Anyways i think i have made my decision to get the O2x when the price become right thinking around the £200-230 mark.

Thanks for all the feedback

:D
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
I pm'ed you about a good deal i found.
[LG Optimus 2x] retareq:
You should get an LG o2x.

Why ?

Lets say you went all out and jailbroke your iphone and got the oh so sweet glass icons. This video below shows you exactly how it would look if it was an Android instead. No matter how awesome iphones are it cannot do this. I would imagine as we proceed into the future its only going to get more crazy on Android.

[YOUTUBE]IT8HKWkjXVk[/YOUTUBE]
[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
Obviously get the iPhone. In Australia iPhone 4s go for $450, optimus 2x is $350 on ebay. Resell the iphone.
[LG Optimus 2x] spyrosk:
The 2nd method installs clockworkmod doesn't have to install from market.

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My opinion is that iphone 4 has nothing more to offer that Optimus 2x doesn't have and it's price is almost double.
[LG Optimus 2x] tzarp990:
I have de optimus 2x and it all depends wat kind of user u r. best advice is get yourself the Samsung galaxy 2 because it has more support and it is a better phone in all.
[LG Optimus 2x] spyrosk:
I think that better or worse support depends on the country you live in. In Greece I believe that LG has better support than Samsung
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Its not the iphone 4s he was offered its the older one.... stupid advice.

Also complete useless crap advice since he said its out of his price range. Read the topic before giving advice.
[LG Optimus 2x] hei1125:
I suggest iphone 4s
[LG Optimus 2x] spyrosk:
Everything new always has problems at first. IOS5 for iPhone 4s still has many problems and you cannot install a previous release. Not compatible.
[LG Optimus 2x] PG101:
SAYWUT!!!!!!
[LG Optimus 2x] Avfcman:
Some people :L

Can't even read the title or others posts
[LG Optimus 2x] t0m2k:
haha :D The thing is, if you love apples company policy and their "product style" too, then buy the Iphone.. But if you love yourself and your "freedom :D " buy Android (o2x) :)
[LG Optimus 2x] WtFKilla:
LG its much better than Apple iPhone its my mean
[LG Optimus 2x] Steppenwolfie:
Iphone4 -> resell as 4s -> galaxy nexus
[LG Optimus 2x] :
O2X hardware is way above iphone 4,

if you like the UI of the iphone then you can also go for the o2x and flash Miui Rom which has a very similar ui (in future even better with functions of ICS)

With the o2x you got the best of android (market, customization, development) and a very fluid and good looking UI (Miui or any other Launcher)

I highly recommend the o2x, only con is the very bad support from LG but for that we've many devs on xda ;)

EDIT: Galaxy S2 might be a better phone BUT it doesnt have HDMI haha :D i use this feature very often btw..
[LG Optimus 2x] Avfcman:
I Think i would use that often aswell. Just holding off till price goes down :)
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
The S II doesn't have HDMI port, but it supports MHL. Which is the same thing, but video and audio output is done through the micro USB port. Plus unlike HDMI, it also charges the phone when connected :)
[LG Optimus 2x] Avfcman:
It may do, but, its still out of my my price range :L
[LG Optimus 2x] Medizinmann:
Hello!

But I read this charging over the MHL-interface isn't working to good while I can plug in the USB charger in my LG P990 while I am playing video over HDMI and it is charging very well...and the MHL interface costs extra (at least 15,-€ last time I checked) while a HDMI cabel or adapter to my HD TV is really cheap(starting for less than 3,-€).

IMHO this is one point (including a mirco HDMI port) LG did right and a lot better than Samsung.

@All

Many people don't seem to read the starting posts before writing.

As the OP stated several times...

He has a tight budget of £300 and therefore the Question was if he should buy either a used iPhone 4 (not a 4s!!!), which was offered to him for £270 or a new LG Optimus 2x (aka P990) which is priced £250 on Amazon UK right now.

Samsung SII, Samsung Galaxy Note, Samsung Galaxy R, iPhone 4s are out of the question since they are beyond the budet...period...:eek::rolleyes::D
[LG Optimus 2x] :
I just wanted people to get the facts right so people dont say that the optimus is garbage and the s2 is better haha :D this shouldnt end up in a discussion of which phone is better :D

i still recommend the Optimus 2x :)
[LG Optimus 2x] alakyr:
iphone4 or optimus 2x? nexus or sgs2!
[LG Optimus 2x] Medizinmann:
Wasn't refering to your posts ;) - you are right...;):D

I was referring to all the people which recommended things like - get a Galaxy R or SG SII or an iPhone4s as all these are out of the question because of his budget...

You post is a little cryptic in this context – could you elaborate?

Which nexus to you mean? Googles new phone Galaxy Nexus? ...and again the SGS2(and the Google Galaxy Nexus too) is/are out of the question – see above...sigh...:rolleyes:
[LG Optimus 2x] :
1.optimus 2x as i already explained in an earlier post

2.sgs2 > galaxy nexus because the new nexus do NOT have a MicroSD-Card slot..

so youre limited to the internal storage..

i would never buy a phone which does not have any kind of sd slot.

(thats why i also think that lumia by nokia sucks..)
[LG Optimus 2x] Avfcman:
Just Found an Xperia Arc S for £199.99

Should i buy that instead?

or just go for this?
[LG Optimus 2x] alakyr:
ops sorry i missed some posts :S

in this period i can check the forum only late night

btw just to answer i was meaning the galaxy nexus :S

sotty for the mistake =P
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Which ever handset you finally choose, the SONY, or the LG, you will be very happy. I have the LG O2X, bought it 3 months back for £270, I have been running CyanogenMod 7 since day one. I'm very very happy with this combination which includes my favorite launcher QQLauncher Pro.

I truly can't see why people would buy an iPhone, if they were shown how simple and easy to use ANDROID actually is. If you enjoy the stock experience then great. But if you want to tweak anything to suit your individual needs, the sky's the limit.

Just so my point of view has some perspective. I have been using a Mac for twenty years, and I have been developing Macintosh apps for 10, and iOS apps since day one. I switched to ANDROID last March and I haven't looked back.

I hope you have fun with whatever you buy. But as a reassurance, the LG O2X running CyanogenMod 7 is bullet proof.

Have fun. Anil

PS. One feature the "GOD" phone doesn't have, a notification light! WTF? If Apple made car's, would the driver have to stick their arm out the window because of the lack of indicator lights. The phone should tell me when it has something for me, a missed call, an email, a text message, a WhatsApp message from my girlfriend. The lack of this essential feature bemuses even my iOS toting colleagues. Simply bad design, plain and simple.
[LG Optimus 2x] ansonchan:
what does o2x faults?:confused:
[LG Optimus 2x] brezzo:
Honestly? I have the O2X and just don't "love" it as a phone :( However i don't suggest an iPhone (even if it wouldn't lag so much as the o2x does), there are heaps of other android phones out there that are worth looking at over the o2x in my opinion. galaxy s 2 blows the o2x away really, if you can find a decently priced one.
[LG Optimus 2x] freemannnn:
as an iphone 3gs user for 2.5 years and an o2x for 1 month i have to say that IOS is far ahead in case of memory optimization and smoothness. i have forgot if i had restart the iphone the last months. O2X needs restart every 2-3 days!!!

we are not talking changing roms. we are talking what u get out of the box.

ok the iphone costs 600e and o2x got it for 250e. you get what u pay!

we dont talk about how "close OS" is the IOS. we talk about the work they have done to it.

if you havent got in your hands an iphone and you get an android everything is ok.

but if you have an iphone and switch to android you feel the difference in OS.

thats my opinion! (not flames)
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Your post is very interesting. The obvious question it raises is, why did you switch to ANDROID?

Your point about "out of the box" is absolutely correct. iOS devices are better integrated, Apple makes the hardware and the OS.

The O2X on the other hand is a combination of LG and Google. LG like many other hardware manufacturers are novices at creating software, and don't seem to think software is very important. Which is perhaps why their Froyo release sucked balls.

10 mins of research would quickly show any potential O2X customer that LG's software makes the great hardware, feel way worse than it actually is. Once you install excellent software such as CyanogenMod, then. WOW!

There are countless, great out of the box ANDROID phones. Just like the iPhone. However paying the same price for a phone as it does to buy a powerful desktop computer. Is quite frankly, the price you pay–for not learning the basics of technology–which isn't hard.

O2X = great hardware. Add great software (CyanogenMod), and you can enjoy the €350 you've saved. And also not feel like a "mere mortal", as the late Steve Jobs would have put it.

At the end of the day, technology is here to stay. Learn to control it. Or let some corporation control it for you, and steer you in the direction that best serves their shareholders and not you.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] freemannnn:
bought an android device (O2X) to test and play in real life and see how android is performing! i dont regret. i can do most of the things i did with iphone.

except missing some apps and functions.

the reason i bought it "to escape" from apple's expensive products (phones,headphones,chargers etc)

but now i can see how difficult is to switch my 3gs that i've been using for 2.5 years.

its a matter of habbit

the sad part is that i am better productive with my 3gs (2.5 years old) than O2X.

even 2.5 years old the responsiveness-smoothness of 3gs is fast (no need for dual core or 512 ram) and thanx to IOS for that.

even the notifications that apple introduce (steal!) in IOS 5 are better from android (for me)!

dont mention ICLOUD that everything is backed up there automatically when you charge your phone and connected to wifi. in case you lost your phone and buy a new (expensive!!!) one, all apps,settings,apps data will be back in minutes from cloud and you dont have to setup everything again from the beginning.

the good parts of O2X from my 3gs are the better-bigger display and camera (i dont care). nothing more.

p.s. i am not a fanboy.
[LG Optimus 2x] sander-m:
freemannnn, have you installed CM7 or are you running stock LG firmware ?

I have been using many iOS devices (my iPod Touch 4th Gen is sold now) for a long time, but I can conclude that my O2X combined with latest CM7 Kang + Vadonka's kernel, beats my iPod Touch 4th gen in almost every way.

My O2X screen is better than the iPod Touch 4th retina display, bigger, better contrast, colors and the resolution is good, imo. The speed is also very good compared to my previous iPod, the O2X blows it away, no matter what. (it should be because dual-core = better than single core)

Out-of-the box Apple delivers more 'sophisticated' and finished products, I really agree. My O2X stock firmware (2.2) just sucks badly, almost unusable. Latest LG 2.3.4 update is usable, but still bad. Probably one of the worst stock roms I have ever seen.

The Apple app Store is slightly better than Android's Market, but I don't care, al major apps (I use) are just as good on android.

When we get Android ICS 4.0 on all android phones and on our O2X, android will be even more popular and loved.
[LG Optimus 2x] freemannnn:
my O2X wears stock 2.3.4 unofficial 20o.

do u think i should try cm7?

are there any major problems or apps that dont work with cm7?
[LG Optimus 2x] Medizinmann:
Hello!

Define major problem...;)

The FM radio under CM7 isn't really good right now - RDS isn't working for RDS text and receptions is rather poor.

Stock weather app won't run, but there are many alternatives.

All apps from the market I tried so far are working!

Some examples:

Opera, Dolphin HD, Enhanced Email, RealCalc, GhostCommander, Total Commander, SVOX, Titanium BackUp, GetRIL, LG RIL Version, Alarm Droid, Remind Droid, Beyondpod, DoggCatcher, Moboplayer, WhatsApp, Winamp, PowerAmp, Pimlical, Öffi etc.

Latest CM7.2-RCO-KANGS + custom kernel are a lot faster and smoother than the stock rom - and I mean really a lot faster.
[LG Optimus 2x] freemannnn:
I dont care for fm radio.

But also i dont want to touch baseband or kernel.

I think if i want to have cm7 i must change baseband?
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi freemannnn, the baseband has nothing to do with the ROM. Baseband = radio firmware. The radio interface layer (RIL) is the software glue between the baseband and the ROM.

Flash CM7, and then see how your phone behaves with your mobile Telco, and Wifi network. If all works as expected then be on your merry way. If you have an issue, then there are countless friendly and knowledgeable people on XDA who will help you out. God knows I would have been stuffed if it weren't for helpful members here and over at MoDaCo. I got my first ANDROID device in March last year, and I now have 4. Two phones for my girlfriend, my O2X, and an ASUS transformer.

Thank you fellow members.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] freemannnn:
So i should start with cm7.2-rco-kangs.

Can u give a link to download?

I am already rooted with cwr installed.

I am gonna make Backup now!

The contents of sdcard and external sdcard are gonna deleted?

How do i check what EXT version i have?
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi freemannnn,

If you wipe the device I do believe the SD card get's wiped too. It's been so long since I wiped I can't remember. So BACK UP!

temasek's kang is here.

As for finding out which ext partition type, your device's storage mediums are using. Download this app.

Launch the app then type in the command below and hit return.

mount

I hope this helps. Good luck. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] freemannnn:
just tried cm7 and ok phone is very fast by my bluetooth was working properly.

could not answer incoming calls with bluetooth. dont know why.

tried to go back to stock lg 20o and my phone is in boot loop.

i can get in clockwork recovery mode.

any suggestions before i brick it?
[LG Optimus 2x] alakyr:
try to perform the 5 format in the mount and storage sections (cache, data, sdcard, emmc, system) and the dalvik cache

this will wipe EVERYTHING included internal sd (emmc) and external sd (sdcard) then try to instal it from 0.

when i change rom, for example from miui to cyano or v20o i always do that and i never found problems....

ps. remember to instal back to ext3 if your previous rom was ext4
[LG Optimus 2x] freemannnn:
How i find if is ext3 or ext4.

The current rom now is cm7.2-rco-kang.

I want to restore to my previous backup i made in cwm that is rom lg 20o. Is the same 5 format procedure?