yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dsf3g:
For my money, the best bluetooth keyboard, bar none, is the iGo stowaway keyboard. The thing is amazing. It folds up into a package about half the size of the Flyer and about 1/4 the weight. Key travel and feedback is very good and the keys are nice and big. There are some compromises. There are no dedicated number keys, for instance. You type numbers by holding down a function key and typing from the top row of letter keys (Which have numbers labelled in blue beneath the letters). But the device is solid, and bluetooth connectivity is excellent. I never get repeated keys like I did sometimes with my other bluetooth keyboard.

The biggest downside is that the keyboard is no longer manufactured. You have to find a used on on eBay, and they can easily fetch $200.00 because they are so sought after. However, there is one trick to getting a cheap one: find the Dell version. Dell sold these things under license some time ago for use with a Dell Axim PDA. It's the exact same keyboard, but because not many people are aware of it, you can get them for about 1/3 the going rate of an iGo. I paid about $70.00 shipped for mine a couple of weeks ago.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] vegasbailey1:
I got a Zagg Keys Solo wireless keyboard for Christmas. Works well- even has some Android specific keys. The Flyer is actually listed as a compatible device on the website as well. But not all keys work-but works great if you need to do extended typing.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jbbordas:
personally, i use the apple bluetooth keyboard. It works nice. I use an app for having it in AZERTY mode. The shortcut for sound or brightness don't work.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] andy1120:
HP Touchpad keyboard, now discontinued and under £25, really really well made and a joy to type on. Works 100% with my flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
You can actually remap keys on a keyboard. Not easy but you can do it if you are patient.

http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/keymaps_keyboard_input.html
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kallt_kaffe:
Or you can do it the easy way with my app: http://www.apedroid.com/android-applications/external-keyboard-helper

It also supports remapping keycodes for volume buttons etc. but the keycodes supported differes a lot between Android releases (different API versions) as you can see here: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/KeyEvent.html#KEYCODE_0

Also some keycodes like HOME are handled early in the OS and cannot be remapped unless you do it the hard way on a rooted device.

But you can do a lot with my app and it includes a lot of premade layouts.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cimer:
Today the Virtuous team (if you're unfamilar they did Virtuous Unity, Virtuous Affinity, some ICS projects, some other projects for DZ/G2, DHD, Inc S, Desire S, Inc 2, mytouch 4g, and some other devices) announced that they were interested in doing Virtuous Flyer. I personally really like their work, and I would welcome it. I just made this thread to see if there is any other support for this besides the Virtuous Team and I.

You can read the original post by them here: http://www.virtuousrom.com/2012/01/happy-new-year.html

And view some of their work:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1422273

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=837042

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1346474

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1424260

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1122805

and much more....

btw...This rom would be ICS =]

Also a late note: It should not be hard to get roms ported from the Flyer to the View..No need to worry View users =]
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Gumby63:
Would love to see them support the flyer!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Will_nonya:
The Virtues of Virtuous

I've used their ROMs on Desire Z and Inspire and they do great work. They're some of the best sense based roms for sure.

My main question is what do they think they could do? Other than bringing ICS what's going to make this ROM the one to have?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cimer:
Well I can't speak for the Virtuous Team, but as you know they are very talented in what they do. Judging from their opening posts of other Virtuous Quattro threads it seems like they are very knowledgeable with kernels which offer a edge here and they do "Heavily optimized for fluid performance and usability.". What mainly happens according some very talented developers is that most kernels and roms just have optimization this, and kernel optimization that, but some developers have no idea how and why it works and degrade the quality of the rom. The Virtuous Team has a clear understanding what those tweaks do, and what will make the rom "better"(for my lack of a better word due to my knowledge of why their roms are such great quality). Honestly I think it would just be great to have ICS on the Flyer with such a great developer team working on it. I think of it really as nothing to loose anyways because if you don't like it you can always switch back. :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
I would be very interested in this project
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Nick N:
Interested once this hits beta!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
If they build it they will come.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
While I would certainly be interested in this as a trailblazer ICS ROM, I would hope they would have an ultimate goal of producing a full Sense ICS ROM that retains the stylus functionality in the long run. Otherwise for many of us, this would only be a novelty.

I know that the Virtuous team does do other Sense ROMs. I understand that for now, doing vanilla ICS is much easier, but once HTC publishes ICS with Sense, the could be used as a base for incorporation. Still, I would embrace the effort because much is learned from any good ROM development.

I am intrigued by the use of the CM9 ICS custom launcher "Trebuchet" due to these enhanced features:

Custom number of Homescreens

Enable/Disable Persistent Search Bar

Separated Apps/Widgets in Drawer

Resize Any Widget

Show and Fade Scrolling Indicator in Homescreen and Drawer

Enable/Disable Auto-Rotate

Drawer Apps Sorting (Title, Install Date)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] gedster314:
Heck with supporting the flyer, how about the View?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cimer:
I would not say "heck with supporting the flyer", but I understand where you are coming from. It seems that Flyer to View is really not that hard to do, and it should be no problem. Again I do not speak for the Virtuous Team, and again it does not seem like it would be a big problem.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Character Zero:
This would be great! ICS has pen support built in, right? I wonder how this might translate to the Flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
This would be great! Not complaining, but perhaps after maybe they could keep sense so we can use the pen. +1
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] fiveoneooo:
Hopefully with the large increase of flyer users lately due to all the sales and such there will be more interest in this
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
That's pretty cool, I used various versions of virtuous before (Unity, Affinity, Sense, G-lite). So they'd likely bring this to sense 3.5 on here, right?

Hopefully they will include HTC View / Express in the update. It doesn't seem too hard as we already have a port of one of the flyer roms in the dev section.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cimer:
No not Sense 3.5. Sense 3.5 is not even optimized for tablets. It will be bring ICS to the Flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] huntman21014:
Only if support for the Evo View was available
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Cimer:
Understood. Making this sound that this is only for the Flyer sounds a bit one sided on my part. My apologies, will edit the OP.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] grkdotnot:
it would be awsome to see an ics rom for the flyer. and not hard to bring the ril to bring the view right behind it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] r_3:
In but would love to see the pen still work as well. The trickiest thing it seems for ics development is a functional camera.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IP IHI II IL:
+1

Couldn't have said it better!

\\Carved into this thread by my RAZR//

http://android-gz.com
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] xenix96:
If team virtuous would make a ics rom for fyler i would like be a beta tester :D.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cnewsgrp:
I am interested
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Couple of notes :

1. Virtuous Quattro series of ROMs are vanilla, no Sense ROMs, so no pen support or HTC widgets.

2. ICS has built-in pen primitives, but that would not directly translate to HTC stylus support, either Sense would have to be installed or additional applications would have to be built to make the pen functional.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Will_nonya:
If the we can get the virtuous team involved and they maintain the HC level of pen interaction then i think there would be a lot of interest in this project.

Without the pen i think there would still be interest but I think it would be less as the main highlight for the flyer is the pen.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] echaru:
No sane person would say no to this.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Yup. Virtuous team does awesome work. And more ROMs is always better (especially when they are quality ones).

The Flyer seems like such a neglected and not very commonly owned device, so I was pretty surprised to even see this thrown out as a possibility. Pleasantly surprised, of course.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] :
I would like to address the whole no more Sense, and possibly HTC scribe support. Duh there will not be sense because HTC has not released a ICS Flyer or View 4G rom. As for the HTC Scribe support...Yes there is stylus support in ICS, however HTC's pen is sort of odd. Since we did not have a AOSP or ICS rom before this we don't know how the pen will act on the Flyer. Again I'll say if such things do not fit you then just don't use the potential rom. Thank you =]
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Will_nonya:
I don't think that HTC had released a sense 235 rom for the vision at the time i had first installed virtuous on my desire z either.

I'm admittedly ignorant of the framework differences between HC and ICS but it would seem that the most likely route would be taking the Flyer HC rom and updating it to ICS.

I think a Flyer ICS ROM without the pen or sense would be a really cool novelty but an ICS ROM from Virtuous with a working pen would be absolutely awesome.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Make sure the comment on the orignal link they might read that first.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] :
What about it? It's meant to show them Virtuous's statement on the matter.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
They said leave your feedback in the comments.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] :
Don't worry, they know that this thread exists. They're using this thread to judge whether or not if the rom has demand here. So far they have been pleased, but I think 50 votes of yes at the top would really seal it =]
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Ok who voted no and why
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
Yeah. Who are the two tools that voted no?

Even if I did not want it for myself (and I do) I would still want others to have it
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] :
Well they are either trolls, people that shoot other people if they step on their lawn, other developers (I hope not), or people that got the wrong answer on a two choice multiple choice test =]
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
I vote for it. Actually, it would be the next big thing to happen to Flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] abifar:
Wow I am so keen to see this rom in my Flyer
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Will_nonya:
No votes

The no votes are probably people who don't even own a flyer/view.

---------- Post added at 09:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:33 AM ----------

Given the probable difficulties moving the HC scribe enhancements to ICS, what is the likely hood that Virtuous would consider optimizing the HC Sense ROM?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
A reasonable question reasonably asked.

To the authors of these follow up comments. Please remember the diverse nature of this forum. Not everyone agrees with the "group" and that is both normal and healthy. Insulting someone for having a different opinion is necessary and unhelpful. Even if you intend this in a light-hearted way remember that many people who read these forums do not have sufficient facility with the English language to correctly interpret these statements in that way.

So far this has been one of the forums on XDA where little of that sort of behavior has been encountered, let us please try to keep it that way.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
I apologize for my part in diverting the purpose of this thread , which is are we interested in an ics port
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Will_nonya:
Hangs head in shame

Good point globatron, even when people have a good grasp of English the tone intended by the writer is not always mirrored by the reader.

It is the great downside to text communication and its probably responsible for more misunderstandings and hard feelings than anything else in the online world.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Absolutely. The loss of bandwidth and "signaling" in text communication is something you have to be careful about; even when acting in good faith it is easy for misinterpretation to happen, much more so than when interactive face to face or even verbally.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
You will never get a 100% success ratio, there's always a small % of deviation in any life situation.

It makes the poll look more realistic - at least to me, it's not all just a bunch of raving people voting for virtuous. I think and hope it is enough to give the review/development team a solid opinion.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] :
There was nothing harmful in my statement. However I do know a person or two that have said no, and yes they are trolls or those sort of people that mean in nature. I find your statement offending that you would even consider it in that light as mentioned above. I know that you're only trying to help with those that cannot understand English that well, but lets not try and act like a kinder gardener's classroom and sensor every bad word or opinion on such matters.

Now to get back to the possible Virtuous Rom for the Flyer discussion =]

Actually I believe this thread has done it's purpose, it's better off if closed.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Will_nonya:
I think the take away was to consider how your comments might be taken. Its easy to misinterpret text because it has no tone the way verbal communication does. I think taking offense at the comments proves the point.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Agree with Cimer on the close thread thing. After this, it will be everyone complaining about the nay-sayers.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
If someone does not want ICS on their Flyer, great. That is their choice. Put Windows 3.1 on the Flyer for all I care. It's not for me but if it makes someone else happy, that is good. It seems that the people voting against this are trying to deprive others of something that they want. I think that is a mean spirited thing to try to do, especially since putting ICS on the Flyer does not affect them one way or the other.

I am not sure what English has to do with this. No one has come forward claiming a language barrier influenced their vote. I can speculate about a million different things that might affect someone. Maybe they pressed the wrong button by accident? Maybe they simply misread the question? Or, maybe some people are meanspirited and are trying to discourage a group of developers, for their own petty reasons?

In short, this has nothing at all to do with punishing someone for "not agreeing with the group," whatever that means. If you don't want ICS on your Flyer, no one is trying to make you put it on there. It is as simple as that.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
I think the poll should have 1 option: Yes. Anybody who doesn't vote should be no. Because nobody is affected by a new ROM, other then developers who will lose their "glory" but all the devs we have are amazing, great, and generous. I think the trolls are the ones who vote no.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
I agree with that but unfortunately vbulletin requires two options for a poll. The original purpose as I think Cimer will agree was to gauge interest, ie. to determine the number of yes votes, not anything else and in this respect the no votes actually have no real meaning.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Back to subject, once again I feel bad because my silly comment started something that was not intended.

Um, yes, I would like ics
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
Nothing to feel bad about. I was going to post what I posted before I saw that you addressed the two voters who had then voted to deprive others of ICS.

I'd like ICS too and I don't care which developer brings it to us. Whoever does will get a donation from me, and I am sure, other people.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
I PMd one of the Virtuous team emmbers earlier. As of this morning, they are still undecided if they are taking on the Flyer.

If you want to see this happen, you should probably let them know.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] :
I would disagree with contacting them. The question of having enough of a crowd for the rom has been answered. The only problem is finding the right price for the flyer. So PMing them about support will only annoy.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
I see that they are looking for a Flyer. That's good news.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Will_nonya:
Any word from virtuous on this topic?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] IP IHI II IL:
Agreed... Let them decide.

\\Carved into this thread by my RAZR//

http://android-gz.com
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Snow_fox:
I'm kinda worried seeing as there hasn't been any talk on this for a while now...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
Those guys seems very active answering questions on Twitter and other places. I can't see how a PM would bug them.

My guess is that this is being worked on but who really knows?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] :
I know this is a semi-old thread, but the device has arrived...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
So we can expect to see a future rom?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] :
If you shook a magic 8 ball it would say "Outlook looks good"
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Gumby63:
Awesome news :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mohitster:
Yeah Awesome news!! Best of luck guys! :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
Does the Magic 8 Ball have anything new to report?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Is this a rigged Magic 8 Ball you get at Walmart where all of the options are yes, good, will happen, possibly, or a real one with "no's"
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] 13lizzard:
some good news!

I just checked the Virtuous Team's homepage, and they posted the following:

I guess we'll be able to see a virtuous rom soon on our flyers!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
NICE NEWS
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mohitster:
Great news indeed....!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dehenry21988:
color me excited...hope theyre able to keep the pen functioning.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lautunno:
please keep the pen working!

totally agreed
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
Great news, indeed. I am really excited.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] adirbd:
Yes, it would be great!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
Looking forward to it.
[Motorola Droid X2] xerotix:
I figured I'd share this as hope for some of you who may have phone problems...please keep in mind that I was not fishing for this, I'm just a very understanding and patient person who takes the good with the bad and realizes that getting pissed only makes situations worse, be nice to your CSR lol. I've also been on a family plan with verizon for over 10 years now and am a former ATT wireless CSR.

I have had a dx/dx2(plagued by asurion with the dx2 as a dx replacement IMO) for most of my android life and I must say it was a pleasure from cm7/fission/liberty on the dx to eclipse/molten/liberty on the dx2 but I was recently blessed(after much hassle) to an early upgrade to a new galaxy nexus as a replacement for the dx2(which i received through a purchase for re-embursement by asurion 6 replacement phones later) after my dx was stolen back in may of 2011. 6 monthes or so into the dx2 I encountered the same issue I had with the other 6+ dx's prior and called verizon obviously. After explaining my problem and going through trouble shooting I was then told I'd be receiving a D3. I accepted as I didn't figure I'd get a 4G phone and I'm in love with Moto. I received the D3 without battery or cover or anything and called. They were sorry and found they were out of regular d3 batteries so they would send me an extended battery. so I get the package in the mail and it turns out to be a dx2 extended battery, obviously their mistake. so I call and am then told they are out of extended battery covers. I told the CSR that I loved moto and had told them they probably couldn't give me what I wanted(jokingly) referring to the new nexus. After waiting for the CSR to return to the line I'm told they could offer me a Bionic as a replacement but then told there was a problem in the system because I had never had 4G and to top it off my family member has the bionic so if they tried a work around it would look like my sister had problems and replacements and so on. Again on hold and then the CSR returns telling me she spoke to her super and was going to do an early upgrade and give me a 200 credit towards a bionic(which would make it free) or a nexus that i stated I wanted before. Obviously taken aback I took the GN and will now be receiving it with overnight shipping tomorrow.

I'm obviously very excited. I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea and start going crazy n rep shopping or trying to do this just to try and get it...I just want everyone to remember that the reps are paid to help you(devs aren't really paid so kiss their asses more lol) and you should treat EVERYONE the way you would like to be treated as what goes around comes around :)

Goodbye DX/DX2 community. I'm sure I'll see some of you around
[Motorola Droid X2] CadenH:
+1
[Motorola Droid X2] jgoose:
I recently had a similar situation. I called Verizon and was able to upgrade my Alltell family plan minutes and keep and stay on my same plan (Unlimited texting and data for $20 per line. Really don't want to let it go)

I guess he went the extra mile to help me out because I was laughing and joking with him on the phone instead of cussing him out.

You try to do what you can to bring a smile to others and they will hopefully return the favor. It's called Karma....:)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Gtridr:
Hey, i haven't found anything in our forums about this, and the search function yeilded no forseeably helpful threads, so here i am. I apologise for my low post count, and would like to emphasise that i will try any solution.

Is there a way to whitelist an app from the system task manager? I often use it but would like to whitelist some apps such as widgetlocker that need not be terminated when i do a "clear all".

I am comfortable with cwm, adb, smali/baksmali and apktool. Thanks for any help.

Infuse, ZEUS ROM
[Samsung Infuse 4G] diablo009:
Download a custom task killer like advanced task killer, and whitelist whatever you like :)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tmease1:
I use advanced task manager and it will whitelist apps. You can get the paid version for free on getjar.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Gtridr:
I have used atk in the past, i like the stock better. Accessible via task switcher and no notification clutter:) just wondering...

Infuse, ZEUS ROM
[Samsung Infuse 4G] diablo009:
1. Launch key mapped to long press on search soft key

2. Launch key internally invokes ATK

3. ATK configured not to get into notification bar

This is my current setup, and works better than stock task manager.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Gtridr:
got it working (launchkey.apk) niice

:D