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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RussianMenace:
Voids the warranty through Asus (and understandably so, since you're running device outside intended specs). However, you can buy 3rd party warranty (SquareTrade) and if you by some miracle brick your device, you can drop it on the ground or spill some coffee on it and they'll replace it or cut you a check for $500-600.

http://www.amazon.com/SquareTrade-A...NA/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1325606999&sr=8-15

Product Features and Technical Details
Product Features

Coverage: 2 years of drops / spills protection.Starting from item purchase date.
Claims: SquareTrade will fix the item or pay you the full replacement cost of the item.
Service: Free two-way pre-paid shipping for mail-in service. 5 day service guaranteed!
Price: Up to 70% less than other warranties.
No Paper: SquareTrade will email your contract within 24 hours and let you store your receipts with us for a paperless claims process. You will not be mailed a contract.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
Maybe someone can help me:

Will it be possible to root the device without unlock the bootloader? The asus sweden guy said it but i don't find any informations about rooting of the prime.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] halljo:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/107538503004482952974/posts/ZwzVDY7M1rb

support it :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
That's what i was going to post up about Squaretrade.

Quick question about them. I am going to purchase it, but I want to return my TP and get another due to GPS not working at ALL and minor screen bleed. Can I buy it now and change the serial number later, or should I wait till I get a new one?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Predseda3D:
Mission is not accomplished. It is not official but only translate from someone outside of ASUS.

Not in all countries. No one can invalidate warranty. Its against law.

So it is hollow but not for us. ;)

Yes. In EU it is against law.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] indoz:
I completely agree! In any negotiation both parties have to give a little for it to be fair to all. They are giving us an unlocking tool. We, in turn, void our warranties which usually happens when we root our devices anyway.

Seems fair to me...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RussianMenace:
It doesn't look like GPS is going to get "fixed" (see the comments about it above), but if you are returning your current one for a new one, I would wait till you get the replacement. Not sure if you can transfer the warranty to another device (doubtful) once you activate it.

Edit: just looked on my SQ account for my TV warranty, and it looks like you can transfer the warranty to other people, but not other devices (make, model,S/N).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Not only that, but the app you MUST use to rent movies from the Market is hella limited and just gets clowned for how crappy it is and yes, if your rooted, you cannot PLAY the movies. You can spend your money and rent them, but it is not until you try to play them that your told you cannot due to root.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Evo_Shift:
Yeah, you will probably be able to root it so you can use apps that require root but you will not be able to install a recovery, so no backup and you cannot flash custom kernels. I am not sure about flashing a custom rom without an unlocked bootloader. I think there was some sort of work around on motorolla phones but I am not 100% sure.

If you just want to run the stock Asus rom but with root it will probably be possible assuming some people who are good at finding out how to root devices want to do it with the Prime.

However, if the bootloader is unlock-able relatively soon using a tool Asus releases a lot of devs may not worry about trying to find a root exploit in which case you may not be able to get root without unlocking the bootloader. That's sort of what is going on with the HTC phones.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pandaball:
I read the post by Asus Taiwan. Asus will be releasing a bootloader unlock tool, ETA not given however. Their reason is apparently because of DRM and movie rental. In other words, the earlier translation is accurate.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
yeah bummer... I wanted this before unlocked bootloader BUT 1 thing about unlocked bootloader is that some badass Dev will likely find some way to give us some incremental improvements in GPS by tweaking some files. There is a lot that has been said about some of the coding in the prop files - how it is missing key code lines and some of the code lines are poorly written & dirty - so maybe some fixes there can be made by a Dev or the info given on how to self edit the prop files once rooted (I have edited several prop files on my rooted Droid to make little improvements here and there). So, it might be 1 consolation prize to no exact GPS "fix" from Asus. Still bummed they admitted defeat and that their design **** blocked us and they never figured that out in the R&D phase.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ultrastigi:
You can flash roms with a locked bootloader. You're just limited to what you're able to change. Chances for bootloops are high. Just can't change the radio and kernals. I'm running a rom now on my bionic.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leo221:
was checking stocks multiple times daily to get one. now this thread just saved me 30 minutes a day wasted.:)

... and 500 bucks of course
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] compuw22c:
Was it BY ASUS themselves or someone else? I'm getting nervous with no "official statement" we can hold them to later.

And the fact I can see satellites with an snr of 20+ with no or elusive lock tells me GPS is definitely a software issue too. No aluminum in the screen to jam the signal, just like the maxIPad. I still think its in software... Well fix it ourselves if we can get root!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] LouisRLinux:
Completely unlocking it, like in every other computer I've owned, would be better for both Asus and the end user. Most systems come with a recovery partition or access to a recovery program. This would nearly eliminate software related returns just as it does on PCs.

Don't let Asus tell you DRM is to protect you and their support from "bricked" devices.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
For me, that is one of the top reasons I value this ability. I did ROMs and kernels and such but I found the real true benefit was the ability to load a recovery and backup the ROM.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ModestMuse23:
But... now they said they will unlock it.

Back to checking stocks multiple times a day and spending $500 for you!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rjyanj:
I'm relieved that ASUS' ineptitude in releasing this forced me to delay purchasing one til' January and now that we know they're playing shady with the bootloaders, I didn't have to waste my $500!

I can't wait to see even better tablets that come stock with ICS and unencrypted/unlocked bootloaders.

ASUS won't see a single dime from me, ever again, purely based on how they've handled the release of this device.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mithent:
It's great that they're doing this! But I do hope that the invalidation refers to anything resulting from your tampering and not anything that's obviously hardware. HTC's unlock site says:

Which is quite fair enough; the device as sold effectively has warranties on the hardware and software as a unit, and if you're going to alter the software then there's no reason for them to support that. If the fault is the hardware, e.g. the device starts falling apart, then surely it should still be under warranty with respect to that.

Similarly, if you buy a PC from Dell that comes preinstalled with Windows, I wouldn't expect you to be able to complain that you couldn't get Linux drivers to work, but even if you were running Linux I'm sure they would have to fix it if the PSU failed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] KingDavid63:
I have the original and trust me when I say you ain't gonna see a better tablet than the prime in 2012! Tablet of the year! Just like last.. Im saving up, by the time they unlock I'll have mine! :-)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ModestMuse23:
But... they are going to unlock the bootloader.

I think people just close their eyes and post without reading...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cybik:
Asus france themselves replied to me saying "Un outil de déblocage est prévu". Direct translation: "A tool for unlocking is planned".

https://www.facebook.com/asus.fr/posts/10150498577754824

Also: Anyone *****ing about "hollow victory" is an idiot. In the course of a DAY, we got an official response of "we'll unlock it but it voids warranties", which is KIND OF THE /expletive/ING POINT OF WARRANTIES. I prefer a "you're on your own" tool that frightens noobs to a major unlockfest that bricks more than needed and gets on the tablet maker's nerves so much they end up locking it again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] John Kotches:
nunya and tbs:

We'll have to agree to disagree. They are walking away from their hardware because it isn't running the supplied OS.

I see no reason that phone vendors can't go the route of the BN Nook Color and make the device essentially bulletproof with the backup ROM on board.

At least we're disagreeing in a civil fashion.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ccsnet:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20976672&postcount=520

If the GPS issue is design I'm sure by law a number of people in countries affected will have legal recourse - certainly in the UK you would.

That would say to me they may delay further production and replace with a plastic back and if they did offer to replace those who have bought one now as refunds may be costly.

T
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
With nvflash you can flash even bricked device so it should be better for Asus to unlock the bootloader - because less people will completely brick their Transformers then. But they said it - main reason was DRM. Probably Netflix etc. - I don't care, can't use it anyway in my country.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pandaball:
It is by Asus Taiwan, aka Asus HQ. Pity them really, they had to rush a statement out at 11.30pm at night.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leo221:
that is until official and no other competitive tabs coming out from samsung, htc, etc. I think the very early pre-orders are largely geeks. hope they return their tabs to amazon, worstbuy ... just to make a statement. if i got mine, i would return at this point of time. asus better act fast before galaxy tab tegra 3 show up.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] madpoet:
Should update the first post with a link to the statement.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cybik:
Translation: **** YEAH
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cookst:
An unlocked boot loader won't cause Netflix to fail. I run ICS on my HD2 with an unlocked boot loader and before my Acer A500 was damaged it ran a custom ROM and unlocked bootloader and both run Netflix without issues. I was able to tether the A500 to the HD2 and run Netflix in HD fine. The DRM argument must be coming from other rental places like the Android Market, which since I have Netflix, doesn't matter to me anyway.

Steve
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pandaball:
Statement by Asus Global.

Thank you very much for all of the support you have given to ASUS. Eee Pad Transformer Prime received excellent reviews and great demand when it launched in December 2011. Now, we are continuing to make the Transformer Prime available in the worldwide market, and doing our best to fulfill the incredible demand. ASUS strives to create the best products and provide the best service for our customers, and will be releasing an FOTA update for the Transformer Prime shortly. This update, version 8.8.3.33, will improve the focus of the camera, the fluidity of the touch experience, and the APK capabilities in Android Market.

ASUS has been working hard to make the highly anticipated Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich available on the Transformer Prime, and today, we have good news for you. Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich FOTA worldwide update for the Transformer Prime will start from Jan 12th, 2012. Thank you for your patience and support through this process.

In addition, we would like to address your concerns related to GPS and bootloader on the Transformer Prime.

The ASUS Transformer Prime is made from a metallic unibody design, so the material may affect the performance of the GPS when receiving signals from satellites. Please note that this product is not a professional GPS device, and signal performance can be easily influenced by factors including, but not limited to: weather, buildings, and surrounding environments. Please understand there are limitations when using the GPS function. To avoid inconveniencing users who demand a powerful GPS device, we made the decision to remove it from our specification sheet and marketing communications. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

Regarding the bootloader, the reason we chose to lock it is due to content providers' requirement for DRM client devices to be as secure as possible. ASUS supports Google DRM in order to provide users with a high quality video rental experience. Also, based on our experience, users who choose to root their devices risk breaking the system completely. However, we know there is demand in the modding community to have an unlocked bootloader. Therefore, ASUS is developing an unlock tool for that community. Please do note that if you choose to unlock your device, the ASUS warranty will be void, and Google video rental will also be unavailable because the device will be no longer protected by security mechanism.

Thank you for all the understanding and support for the ASUS Transformer Prime. Happy New Year!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
that's what I like to see. Team Prime!

this is all great news that just developed. Aside from Asus admitting the backplate main cause. like I said before we could still optimize the coding and clean it up more to get the most out of what we got. I'm sure improvements in coding will bring a significant increase in GPS reception regardless of backplate. so we win in the end also. have bootloader unlocking tools, ICS with updated and improved drivers for GPS, wifi, etc...and eventually root. we will have all of that and still be able to improve GPS signal strength. I think we came off all around the board.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MACBLACK91:
I hope the hackers and do something with the unlocker so it won't be able to void the warranty:P
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Haro912:
That is hard to read since it is translated lol. Lots of weird sentence set ups. Main thing I got is they will unlock the bootloader :). Now we just need them to talk to a major blog site and release an official statement not on facebook.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Frosty666:
At least they didn't say we were holding it wrong.

Sent from my Snapdragon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] robomo:
To Everyone who helped out:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] leo221:
yeaaaaah! free case everyone
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
They Can't Void Your Warranty (In the U.S.)

The Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act protects customers who have modified a product (any product) from a manufacturer (any manufacturer) from having their warranty voided. The manufacturer can only disclaim warranty coverage if the modification can be proven to have caused the defect.

So if your LCD screen stops working, Asus would have to prove that unlocking the bootloader and something you did caused that defect.

If you overclock and fry the Teg3, that obviously would be a result of a user modification.

Using the LCD example, if you file a claim and Asus denies it, it's going to be tough to fight a billion dollar company. But, if you did, you'd win and they'd end up paying court costs. You might just be able to send Asus U.S. a copy of Magnuson and they’d back down. HTC backed down (in the U.S.) from their original stance that “your entire warranty is void” if you unlock their bootloaders. And anything they say in their T&C you have to accept can’t override Magnuson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ajkid93:
If we get the CEOs email and have someone (who is good at formal writing) draft a letter, then we all can simply copy and paste. We would be able to use multiple email accounts.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] KingDavid63:
this really is a good idea i have already done it multiple times and anybody else will too if they want root? i thought that razorclaw worked for this though?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Not after the forces update
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xAnimal5:
Razorclaw only works with .23 and the majority of the TP's come with .27
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Pizza4Breakfast:
This might be the dumbest question, but would ASUS IR Officers help? ._.

http://www.corpasia.net/taiwan/2357/irwebsite/index.php?mod=ircontact
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ajkid93:
We have the email, now we need someone to draft a letter. xD
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Lol nice find
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Pizza4Breakfast:
I bet Wordlywisewiz could draft the letter :>

Just because I see the words, "word" and "wiz".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
RTLol no I made an app that helped kids cheat on their vocab homework lolbut then I almost got in legal trouble with the publisher of the book so I un published the app before they took me to court

I think we are well over 300 tweets
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ravizzle:
Keep tweeting!

Sent from my Galaxy S2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jc4p:
Investor Relations doesn't care about what you say unless you're an investor.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] richaoj:
Instead of all the useless spam to "bump" this thread, simply ask the mod to sticky it.

Spam is generally discouraged on xda.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Col.Kernel:
The "why" is simple, very simple indeed.

Did you buy this piece of hardware? Assuming "Yes", do you own it? If you can't root it, you don't own it.

When I get mine, I want root. I plan to use it for a laptop replacement. And while running Android on it will be fine for much of what I want to do, should I need more conventional laptop functionality I'd like the ability to put Mint or Gentoo on it. Ideally I'd like to be able to boot Mint or Gentoo from SD.

I can't do that without root. QED, if I can't root it, I don't own it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jfortier777:
Made my feelings very clear, all over Facebook.

I support this movement, I will not return my tablet though. I did not upgrade from another tablet so this was a very permanent purchase, for better or worse.

I'm utterly blown away that they would go to such lengths to disembowel their customers. They must understand that the customer base who preorders the first quadcore tablet in history is the same that likely wants it rooted and used to its full potential.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
The Issue With That Is People On Mobile Devices Using Say Tapatalk Or xdaapp won't see it as it's in a different tab

that's what pretending is for :)

twitter and Facebook is still exploding! Wonderful keep it up and bam they will cave in!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] richaoj:
See operation Iron Fist:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1366436

4. Any post, in any section, that is done to further post count will be deleted and you will face possible infraction.

Just sayin . . .
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] di11igaf:
Doesn't matter, root is not the issue. Root (to me)is almost useless with an encrypted bootloader. We need a bootloader unlock, a working nvflash(which I found, we actually need the key), or something of the like.

Remember this is not nvidia or Google, all Asus.

Read the thread starting here it will explain everything that needs to be known

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1402095&page=2

Kernels are where the biggest improvements will be made, that will make the prime a whole other beast, but Asus needs to throw us a bone.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jfortier777:
You couldn't have said this any better.

It's very much like a corporation who assigns laptops to employees and does not give them administrator access.

"It doesn't belong to you, modifications need to be approved"

Well we own these, and we should be allowed to throw them in the ocean, set them on fire, break them in half, or even... BRACE YOURSELF install an app that we like...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
We are trying to increase twitter post count sorry if that hurts anyone lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
I've got to go to bed keep up the tweets up guys hopefully we will have a few news articles tomorrow about our movement

And mood could you make a stickies with a link to my thread but not stickies the thread please just stickie a link to my thread thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
Am I the only one who isn't happy about this and think this is just a cheap way to avoid giving us warrenty?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] biggem001:
you're missing the FINE LINE

They are not removing your warranty, you are opting out. That's how the HTC works, when you click ACCEPT, you are accepting to REMOVING the warranty from your device, which then any future warranty attempts are void

of course, if they create an application, all we need to do is create a "server" that handles the requests from the unlock app and it "thinks" it told the ASUS server your device ID and that you accepted the removal of the warranty.. but really the query was backloops to a server program you hosted (thanks to the hosts file)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] robomo:
So we loose:

Google video rental

simple USA warranty process. May need to fight ASUS at the beginning with Magnuson act:

We gain:

TOTAL control over our devices

community-supported ROMS

better GPS & WiFi custom community drivers

DRM FREE ANDORID

You can bet Cyangenmod will probably be ported eventually

Let's see - tough choice. :rolleyes:

I never even knew Google did video renting, so no loss there. And I'll take my chance with the warranty - the long US court history that backs up the Magnuson act seems pretty water tight (especially with HTC backing down).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CrunchyDoodle:
I hate the strangle-hold Digital Rights Management has on our devices. This is especially true of Android devices. ASUS, as well as others, should be working hard to make their systems satisfactory to both their customers and the licensors of protected media. A Windows 7 machine contains DRM features without the strangle-hold imposed by some Android device makers - ASUS included.

ASUS, put your engineers to work on how to satisfy your customers and your licensors better than what you are proposing - unlocking the bootloader shouldn't kill the warranty. You can do better. I know even Apple messed up on an antenna design in the iPhone - you can do better.

ASUS - do better - put your engineers to work to do better.

Bye. :cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ins0mniacs:
that is one reason the other reason is google is forcing android upon us to get their data from us. with something like linux they would not get our data unless we chose to give it to them
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blackinjun:
Actually reading it I did not even think it a fine line. They are providing something at no cost but to use it you will be giving up your warranty, no brainer about circumstances. I am not sure about server idea they are already setting up a system that tracks updates accepted from your phone. You can see it during firmware updates although it goes to a site that says not ready at the moment.