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[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
"Act like I know?" Look, I'm about 100% sure I was building ROMs and making themes before you even had a smartphone so please learn who you are talking about before YOU make accusations. You say you made all this stuff for this phone, then just because you did a little research and asked a couple people for help and didn't get it right away, you dropped the phone like a bad habit. This is exactly my point, you gave up. If people gave up just because they couldn't figure something out in a couple months, do you have any idea what these communities would be like then?

I'm really glad you're happy with your Bionic, I really am. Now please go post over there and forget you even knew this community. Who gives a crap what the Bionic had after 3 weeks!?!

Here are some facts that support my opinion of you, in case you want to act like I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Fact 1: Mtmichaelson made a bootanimation way back for Revolt ROM. (As a matter of fact, it was the Bionic Bootanimation for Revolt v1.5)

Fact 2: Once this phone had Recovery, themes were possible, allowing you to change ANYTHING (except bootanimation) on this phone.

Fact 3: Your post about custom bootanimations was made BEFORE THIS PHONE EVEN HAD RECOVERY!!!!!

Fact 4: You even said in the post that you "haven't messed around with it much." So how do you get that you looked for software to do it for 2 months?

Fact 5: elreydotcom (probably spelled wrong) told you in the very same post that he was able to use Photoshop to convert the .rle files. Hmmmm.....must not have looked too hard.

So what I'm gathering from this, is that after 2 or 3 months of you having this phone. You didn't make 1 theme, well I know someone who did, me. This also tells me that given what your entire argument has been about, you dropped this phone because you couldn't change the bootanimation? This also tells me that you probably either lied your ass off to Verizon or messed up your phone on purpose to get a new one. Which even further lowers my opinion of you.

Anyway, just go to your Bionic forums and talk about how much better your phone is than the Revo because frankly we don't give a damn.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
Do you really have nothing to do but argue about it on here? How pathetic are you. My adobe Photoshop was never able to open any of the files. And we did have recovery when I used the Phone so I dont know what your talking about there. I also would like to know when I said I didn't mess with this phone that much. I haven't messed with it lately but I used to attempt to mess with the boot animation daily.

One last fact. I HAVE A BETTER PHONE THAN YOU AND WAS ABLE TO DO THINGS OUT THE BOX THAT TOOK YOUR PHONE MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO DO. YOUR PHONE IS CRAP, VERIZON KNOWS IT, LG KNOWS IT, I KNOW IT. you can defend it all you want
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
You for real went back and read my old posts. LMAO. Are you a stalker or something? Hope you realize this isn't the only forum I use. This isn't even the best forum anymore.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Then stop posting here!!!!!! No one wants you here!!!!!! Oh and you want proof of what you said. Here asshole, a link to your own post!!!!!!! Proving that we DID NOT have recovery, and that you DID say you haven't messed with it much.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1114564

Eat it.

P.S. I'm not trying to argue with you. I proved you wrong and you tried to dispute it. You failed miserably, but you tried.
[LG Revolution] adrenaline_rush:
Ok ok Miss Drama Queen, congratulations on your phone, no one really cares what you think of something that you've contributed zero to. No one is holding you here, please go already, but you won't, because you want to feel better about yourself and your purchase by attempting to belittle others and their preferences and opinions
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
That post was in June. I had the phone in July, August, and September also. You don't think it was possible that I made that post when I was first getting started. And you dont need recovery to theme. You can edit the framework_res.apk then use root explorer to place it back in. If your smart, you will keep a backup of original but I'm sure you already know that.

The bootscreen that was eventually added wasn't something that was added immediately and at one time, people didn't understand how it worked because it was so different from anything Android had on any other device. As far as opening the rle files with Photoshop, they wouldn't open in my Photoshop. Dont know if I need a certain plugin. When researching rle files, I learned that it was something originally developed in the 1980's for gaming.

Anything that you proved me wrong on were things that came later on when I stopped using the phone. I am happy.that things got better. Fortunately I was able to afford a new phone but I kept.checking back occasionally to see how things were going for you guys, as I still have the phone.

The post that you referred to was when I was very first getting started with trying to figure the bootscreen out. It really proved nothing. If it would have been posted in September then it would have been different.

Bottom line is wasn't my first Android and I have somewhat of an idea of what I'm doing. For whatever reason, you feel the need to try to prove me wrong. I know what I did and didn't do. I dont need some online asshole with a God complex trying to tell me I don't know what I'm doing. I find it humorous that you took the time to look up old posts. How about taking that time and learn how to make apps for people to enjoy. Ultimately, Androids success will be based on apps, not rooting and roms.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I never belittled anyone's purchase. I responded to someone's post about what I didn't like about the phone and got attacked. All of this other crap is because this Guy has some inner need to prove me wrong.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I belittle my purchase of this phone, not anyone else's. I kicked myself in the ass every day because I traded the thunderbolt in for it because of the unlocked bootloader and random reboots on the thunderbolt.

The only things I liked about this phone were the rom (it was a very good rom, really saved this phone), the HDMI port and it looked nice (hated port covers though, got in my way too often as I'm a heavy Android user and frequently have to plug it into a charger.

The reason I'm still here now is.that I still have the phone and thinking of giving it to my girlfriend. I tell everyone I know.that they need to root so you know I have to see what this phone can so these days. I have a brand new refurbished revolution so its fresh from anything ever being done to it.

She has the Droid X now but I dont really recommend that phone either. Least with revol
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Really? Lol. Still bashing this phone? Smh.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
Sorry, I started with an HTC and got spoiled by the rom development community. Then moved on to Motorola and liked the quality of how it was built and the battery life. If I could have a Motorola phone with the HTC rom community, I would be in Android heaven.

I could dog the Droid x though as I hate its physical buttons and the placement of the button that turns your screen back on.
[LG Revolution] y2d2:
All I can do is laugh my ass off, oh my. You talked up a storm about all these other phones that "can do so much more" and it turns out you're mad because of themeing issues. OMFG that's hilarious.

For a while you had me thinking they were capable of mowing your lawn and cooking breakfast for you.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
I think his whole issue was that he couldn't pull the phone out of the box and put a theme and a bootanimation on it. Apparently he's so high and mighty that a theme and a bootanimation should have already been made for him and ready to be put on the phone.

Thinks his s**t don't stink cuz he has a Bionic.

I've seen this before. A phone comes out that's better than yours so you go to a different forum to try and belittle people.

You see, I'm guessing he got this inferiority complex when the Nexus came out. His Bionic looks like a piece of crap compared to it so he has to come here and try to make us feel bad.

And for what? Because his phone is dual core and ours isn't? Wow, such a big difference between phones huh? Lol.

And just stop trying to build up the Bionics "development," you only have 3 ROMs lol. Yeah that instantly makes your phone better.

Not to mention they only have 2 themes that are not ports lmao.
[LG Revolution] y2d2:
smokedkill, does your phone reboot a lot? Does it make you happy to watch your phone boot up?

I've had to look at my boot animation maybe like, I don't know, less than 10 times, and some were just so I can reboot into recovery and make backups. Then I found out how to turn the boot animation off.

There are many more things that make me happy in life than watching my phone boot. But, if that's what you seek, why not just get boot animation player and watch it on an endless loop 'til your battery runs out? Or do you pick up girls with your phone's boot animation? ("Hey baby, check out my phone boot. Wait, wait, it's coming up any second now..." *rolls eyes*)
[LG Revolution] ufkal:
I love it....Great way to start my Monday morning..I got a great chukkle out of reading some of this. This community rocks. Those who don't like the phone or don't have anything relevant (note I didn't say just positive but relevant comments) should, as Hicks has said, GTFO....

I've hit some of the other forums, and ours are by far the cleanest, friendliest and best all around. I've asked many a stupid question in this forum and gotten nice directing comments, whereas in other forums I would have gotten blasted or banned.

Don't like the phone...See Ya!...Those of us here...well, we know where its at.

To all the dev's, themer's and boot animation makers...My hat is off to you!!
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
I have to disagree. While clean, some posters here can act like children when replying to people who criticize this phone.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
It's not just theming that I have an issue with. I have an issue with the rom selection after hearing so much about developers talk about unlocked bootloaders then when 1 came out with it unlocked, it got just about 0 attention from established developers who did all the talking about unlocked bootloaders. That's not a knock on those who did work on this phone, but those who acted like an unlocked bootloader was the holy Grail but then turned to phones with locked bootloaders instead.

Like I said before, I'm willing to make my own boot animations, but the rle files would not open in Photoshop for me.

I'm not knocking anyone's decision to purchase this phone, especially those who got a good price on it. The question was asked why people were so willing to give up on the phone and I answered why I was willing to give up on the phone.

After that, this Hicks Guy started to verbally attack me and trying to prove me wrong. But everything I said about this phone was true as of the last day I used it. This phone doesn't even have the type of roms that I like to use.(currently using liberty on the bionic and like that it has its own options menu other than just the standard options). While the roms this phone had were good, they would have been better if more developers would have jumped on board.

It's not like I was a new to Android when I got this and was expecting it to be like the iPhone and got let down. I've been editing boot animations since a month after I got the Droid Eris. Other than boot animations, I leave rom development to those who know more about it than I do while I focus on improving my app development skills so maybe one day we can have.quality apps like the iPhone has. Its not like many iPhone developers are jumping over to android. A good portion are turned off by the fact there is no way to ensure their apps will be compatible across multiple devices since some Android devices run different than others and cause some compatibility issues with some apps.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I explained why I was down on the phone, then it turned into all of this. I will continue to look over the revolution forums as long as I do own the phone.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Ok now that I've calmed down, let me explain my actions so I don't come off "like a child" or "verbally attack" anyone.

The reason why I went off on smokedkill is because I'm tired of people who no longer use this phone, coming on here to complain about it. It's one thing to do it if you still use the phone and it is your everyday phone. But to abandoned the phone, then come back here every now and then only to bash it, is completely ridiculous. You guys seriously have nothing better to do than to come back to forums of the phone you left, and tell people why you left it? It's negativity that we don't need and that we don't want. So before every starts thinking I'm just some prick that wants to get on here and talk crap to everyone that says something bad about this phone, I completely understand your frustrations and would understand you getting on here and posting if you still had the phone or still used it. My point is, if you no longer use the Revolution, then take it as a loss and drive on.
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
While I understand your frustrations, many of your posts where you reply to people who do not share your love of this phone read, to myself, as aggressive, attack like, and sometimes childish. Don't take it personal man it is the internet. These are people you will most likely never meet in your life time and never have any true impact on your life. Getting your blood boiled over anything posted in a web forum truly is not worth your time. Take them for what they are, opinions and like assholes, everyone has one.

Now regarding this phone, I own and use mine daily, and well I think it is a piece of trash which I regret not returning in the 2 week grace period. Has nothing to do with development, etc... I just don't like this phone, looks wise it is a handsome phone, but the longer I own it the more I dislike it. I took a shot with LG, and it just does not suite me. I was hoping for another Eris like phone but in my opinion this phone is not it.

If you like it, awesome, to each his own.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I still have the revolution though. Wasn't like I totally up and abandoned it. Ultimately my biggest disappointment about it was about the lackluster support it got from the development community when it has an unlocked bootloader. I'll admit that I got spoiled by starting with the Droid Eris which in my opinion had one of the best rom development communities that you can find. While the revolution is far better than the Eris, the amount of improvements the rom community made on the Eris's capabilities was greater than the improvements made on the revolution. This is due to how many people worked on the Eris compared with how many peiolr worked on this. The more people the better because they can bounce ideas off each other.

With how this phone originally came, it made it harder to developer for since their wasn't too much information about how the system was set up and how different it was from how other androids are typically set up. With not.having as many people working on it, that just slowed down the development process compared to having several people working on roms and being able to ask each other questions about things they may be confused about.

The rom development community here deserves all the credit in the world because without them, many of you would be stuck with Bing(wouldn't wish that on anyone) and a lagged down system. There was just only so much they could do until LG and Verizon released gingerbread.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I give you a lot of credit haxcid. Your the first person that I specifically remember being on these forums. I'm not sure if you got the revolution on the day it came out like I did, but I know you weren't too far behind. I dont think its possible for us former Eris owners to like this phone. Even though the Eris had inferior specs, it did some amazing things with those specs once you rommed it up.
[LG Revolution] wheelern:
Agreed, Haxcid. spc, this is just a phone, man. I could understand this type of defensive talk if we were talking about your brother or friend, but in the end it's just a piece of metal. The common denominator in all of these arguments has been you, not anyone else... The rest of us Revo owners who frequent the forums have had little to do with the arguments. Just let people speak their mind. If you think they're being rude or dumb or ignorant, who really cares? The fact that this has drawn on so long is ridiculous; just let it go dude.
[LG Revolution] indyred99:
This bickering is ridiculous. How about we all take a breather.

As a former Eris owner I would rather have this phone. My Eris was crap. Had it rooted running I believe tazz froyo. Had three replacements before Verizon sent me an OG Droid because it kept breaking on me. Had this phone since August with no issues. I don't have the extra money to buy a new phone gotta have fun with what I got. This is a good phone especially now that we have gingerbread and gingervolt. That's my .02.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I had the same problems with my Eris but they sent me a Droid 2 instead of of Droid as a replacement. Even with its physical malfunctions, I enjoyed playing with all the custom roms. A good portion of former Eris owners have good memories of it from that perspective but it definitely could have used some quality control on the manufacturing side.

I've never used gingerbread on the revolution but I was never a big gingerbread person. I was big into froyo and now big into ice cream (face unlock interests me or I probably wouldn't be looking forward to it as much). Froyo brought flash and a couple of other valuable features so that was the biggest version I ever looked forward to.

I'm happy to hear that many of the issues I had with this phone have since been taken care of (I want to see every Android owner being happy with their phone. Happy users help bring new users to our side instead of the the evil apple).
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
Now that the arguing is over, who hates the iPhone?
[LG Revolution] trampledbyturtles:
lol

Sent from my VS910 4G
[LG Revolution] indyred99:
I do, iPhones are garbage.
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
+1 to that. I have been in a discussion regarding the iPhone with friends and the pro iPhone gents are all "it just works" my rebuttal is... "if it just works why are you on rev5 of iOS and why are there updates to it? I accused him of being one of the Apple fans Wozniak calls "scared of computers."

http://blog.laptopmag.com/woz-iphone-best-for-people-scared-of-computers-android-more-versatile
[LG Revolution] KaneOfMars:
love it!
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
The main advantage that iPhone has is the games and that they have mainstream America brainwashed into their Communist way. Something has to be said about being able to brainwash that many people.
[LG Revolution] mtmichaelson:
Boy, did I miss some fun lol!
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Lmao something like that.
[LG Revolution] KaneOfMars:
only thing I'd buy an iPhone for would be to play the updated final fantasy games :P (maybe I should just get an iPod instead) lol!
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Only thing I would buy an iPhone or iPad for is this:

http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/tosh-destroys-an-ipad
[LG Revolution] adrenaline_rush:
I don't hate it, I mean I don't prefer it, but it works for many many people. I also recommend iphones to girls, and people who are coming from a dumbphone who just want to do basic smartphone things.

Iphones work for a much broader range of people than Android. It's ok, I understand not everyone wants to tinker with their phones. This is also why they are so popular, but they are highly simplified in function and fall behind the technology curve (no LTE, NFC, AMOLED..)

Iphone started the big screen (it actualy was at the time lol) trend, multi-touch glass capacitive screens, the popular appstore, attractive design, etc. I also like how nicely made they are. The buttons click so nice, no creaks, glass and metal feels nice even though it's fragile. Plus it's nice to have competition, there's no argument there!
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
That's the iPhones biggest advantage : gaming. But with that being said, I'm happy with my snesoid and psx emulator to play final fantasy on my Android. I hope when square does bring ff to android that they don't have screwed up customer service and licensing policies like how ea has done on android (many people bought the Sims 3 and Tetris only to find that they expected you to buy again if you get new phone or uninstall the app)
[LG Revolution] Cal8192:
What I like about the iPhone? That, after upgrading, the less informed are willing to part with their slightly used Revos for cheap. :D
[LG Revolution] drt054:
HA! The LG Revolution is free through 2/2 on www.verizonwireless.com. They are really trying to get rid of them.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/promo/splash/ewp?v=22&cmp=BAC-FB-CPO11DAYSALE2012
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Good! Might mean a bigger community!
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I wonder if they will end up giving them to Disney like they did with the Droid Eris.
[LG Revolution] sgschwend:
Chatted with a Verizon Tech Support. Told me their current Rev phone inventory was quite high (7,000 phones). He obviously did not know if they had more on order. He tells me Verizon always moves up to the newest model when it is released.

As to reliability, except for the first LG smartphone he said the LG phones required the same amount of support as any other smart phone. The number one smartphone support issue is related to usability of the phone.

In response to an earlier post of mine, LG is number 2 in the world in phones but not in smartphones. Which from my point of view means that their manufacturing quality rate would be even more sensitive the manufacturing process defect.

Yes I have their phone number memorized but it is related to an issue with the 4Ghotspot. In my case their are times when the network will not download significant data such as a web page, it will always download a few K. Haven't found a fix yet but I have convinced their second level of support folks that the problem is their 4ghotspot user authorization which I understand started in July of 2011.
[LG Revolution] sevron:
I just sent mine back for a replacement model. Wished I'd seen this before I did otherwise I would of told them since they're end of lifeing it to just send me another phone.

But they've said they're sending me the same phone, why would they do that if it's already end of life o.o. Maybe if I have more issues with it they'll send me another phone or is that not going to happen?
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Not gonna happen lol. They have too much overstock to send you a different phone.
[LG Revolution] sevron:
Not even if I keep having to send it back 4, 5, 6+ times?
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Maybe lol. Sending it back a lot probably will.
[LG Revolution] sevron:
I'm thinking about rooting it again since I've done it 2 times (once root then once unrooting). Or should I wait a couple days incase I've got to send this replacement phone back again. To nervous to actually try rooting and roming it because I may have to take it in =/.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
I would go ahead and root and ROM it. With mtmichaelsons new tool, unrooting is pretty much 1 click.