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[Kindle Fire Accessories] pichettet1:
Well it wasn't too difficult to get the external keyboard working. Now i just need to find a keyboard/case that fits and works well and an OTG cable that doesn't interfere with with my headphone jack.

Suggestions?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Jadams3005:
So, my OTG cable is on the way and I'm quite excited. I'm using the latest AOKP rom which I hope will work and I think it should as the kernel is newer than 3.x, but I was wondering is there an app needed to control this?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] prahladvarda:
Guys I tried flashing gederom, and even hashcode's kernels separately..didn't work..I want to plug in thumb drive and hard drives..can't get my kindle fire to recognize any of my thumb drives or hard drives..even with apps like stickmount..
[Kindle Fire Accessories] altitude909:
Are u using an otg cable and powered usb hub?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Cl8rs:
They wont work unless you have a powered hub.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Jessical:
Finally placed an order for an OTG and hub today. Got the SANOXY someone mentioned, the Plugable USB 2.0 4 Port Hub that the same person mentioned, and I have a ASK-3100U sitting around that my dad brought home from work a few years ago.

Sadly that keyboard is really expensive for being plastic and cheap feeling ($40) and I'm not recommending it for that reason (even though it works great). But I'll post back once I get setup.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Jessical:
Woohoo! Typing this via OTG now. Works awesome!
[Kindle Fire Accessories] berighteous:
I got my otg cable today and I'm posting this with my new keyboard case!

so that makes what, only 5 of us in the whole world with keyboards on our kindles?

I got the $10 case ($8 shipping boo) and the $2 otg connector from amazon. (free shipping, but it took a week to get here)

Works cool in the browser and on text editor I tried.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] BleedsOrangeandBlue:
Somebody said earlier that they didn't needed a powered hub for that one. Can anyone else confirm similar results?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] berighteous:
Just the case-keyboard and a $2 otg cable from Amazon. $20 total with shipping for both.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Cl8rs:
I can confirm. I own the keyboard case, and an OTG cable. No powered hub needed :D
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Astrobrewer:
I just placed my order for keyboard/case and OTG cable. I am excited about this. Lack of a keyboard has been the one real shortcoming of KF. This is awesome! :beer:
[Kindle Fire Accessories] tater_salad:
how is this keyboard to type on, is it crammed or is it okay to type on?

Also, I'm worried about the KB scratching the screen on the KF, is there some kind of flap/pad that fits between the 2?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Cl8rs:
It is kinda crammed but the keys are nice and deep when pressed. And no, there is nothing between the keyboard and Kindle Fire. You could just but a large microfiber cloth to put between them.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Astrobrewer:
The keyboard and OTG cable just got here. Just plugged them in and they work! Keyboard takes a little getting used to. I'm not going to set any speed or accuracy records with it for some time, but I'm amazed that it works right out of the box. Not bad for $20.

Update: Regarding the concern about KB scratching screen -- the brackets that hold the KF rest on the keyboard and keep it from touching the screen. So there always is a space between keyboard and screen and no padding is needed.

Sent from my Kindle Fire running Glazed ICS ROM
[Kindle Fire Accessories] BleedsOrangeandBlue:
Is that just because of the size?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Astrobrewer:
Yes, mainly size. The layout takes a little getting used to as well. The letters are all in the normal qwerty places, butt some of the keys on the right hand side of the keyboard are easy to miss like the right shift key and backspace. Also the space bar doesn't register when I use my right thumb, but works fine with left thumb. It's all manageable.

One thing to watch out for is the battery stats while OTG cable is plugged in. Battery reads 100% until it dies. Don't play to long. I would have typed this with my keyboard but my battery was down to nearly nothing.

Sent from my Kindle Fire running Glazed ICS ROM
[Kindle Fire Accessories] danscxda:
The keyboard types nicely. The keys are tiny and hard to get my fingers used to. I struggle more with this keyboard than I did when I first started using a 7" Asus EeePC. I think you could get used to the key placement but it will take some time. The biggest problem for me is the spacebar. They way it is positioned I constantly miss it.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Reverin:
I just caught the tail-end of this thread, can you provide a link for the OTG and Case setup (link to buy if possible). Trying to get obtain this for my brother's birthday this week :)

Thanks!

BTW: Current system version is 6.3.1; is a different OS needed?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] tater_salad:
You need to flash a custom rom using Hashcode's Kernel 3.0.x for the USB keyboard to work, if you are trying this on a stock kindle it won't work.

You'd need to get a USB OTG (Usb On The GO) cable and this case Or even just a regular keybaord, but you may need a USB powered hub.

Here's your Link, I think everyone's using this setup
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Reverin:
Thanks a ton for the links. Just the Kernel is needed? Or a program as well after you flash with 3.0
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Jessical:
You have to flash ICS to it and then add the kernel. It won't work with stock.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] tater_salad:
You'd need to go the whole route of adding a custom rom, you ust need to make sure that it has the right Kernel with it, ROM's that appear to be stock (MoDaCo) dont run on hascodes kernel, which means no USB on the go.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] danscxda:
that link and look down to the "also bought..." and find: SANOXY Micro USB OTG to USB 2.0 Adapter by SANOXY
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Reverin:
Thanks for everything, what a very pleasant site.

I Rooted my KF

Loaded TWRP

Flash the Hashcode ICS (Kernal 3.0)

I would assume I am good to go for this setup?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] dakotapod:
They have these on eBay now for as low as $10and change with shipping.

Works plug and play with OTG cable. But they are pretty junky. I find typing on it almost as clumsy as the screen keyboard really. But I imagine after an afternoon in a hotel typing emails it will be appreciated.

But 10 bucks, what the hell. Tempted to cut it up and see if it can be made a tad more input friendly. Using a plastic stand for tablet instead of the case would maybe make use more comfortable

I cut off the plastic tabs that hold the tablet in and it helped too. for $10 you could get a couple and experiment with modifying it.

EDIT: Laying it flat and using a stand instead of the case for tablet does indeed make it less cumbersome to type

I have played around with a half dozen various keyboards and this seems to be the only one that I could get to work plug and play with no power. So it will do for now. Be so nice if a Bluetooth dongle would work. Would open up the keyboard situation a ton
[Kindle Fire Accessories] TheZeldaLova:
Would it be better to get a Wireless Keyboard and Mouse? I mean, doesn't the reciever require less power than a keyboard/mouse itself?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] altitude909:
Not even close
[Kindle Fire Accessories] glennj99:
Well, I read somewhere that keyboards are generally 5V 120ma, and that a wireless one is a little more.

But that second value is for the keyboard, not the transmitter.

If the adapter is a classic Bluetooth USB adapter, it might be that it draws < 30 mAmps. Even better, the upcoming BlueTooth 4 BluetoothLowEnergy (BLED) can require half that ( < 15 mAmps). All the rest of the power would be supplied by the attached keyboard or mouse or whatever, via battery or maybe even solar.

Of course, these ratings are all at 5 volts, while the Fire's USB port seems to be pushing only like 3.3V and requiring voltage regulation to get up to 5V, so providing even 30mA at 5V via the Fire's USB port might be a bit of a stretch.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] tater_salad:
Yep you should be all set.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] onyx1898:
i agree, this setup works pretty well. only problem i have is its small. my hand are a little big and its going to take some getting used to. i just got mine today.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Reverin:
That is what I'm afraid of, I am very tall (6'6) with big hands; at the moment my desktop keyboard is 11inches from ~ to backspace. Is this setup only 7inches?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] onyx1898:
It is small... bit of you by the otg cable, you should theoretical ally be able to plug in a full sized keyboard if needed... I am going to give it a whirl and let you know...

EDIT: no dice... probably need a powered hub to supply extra juice... then it would work...
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Country270:
I am running Glazed ICS which is up to date as of July 6th will this be enough to run the keyboard or will I need to add the 3.0 kernal that yall have been talking about
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Jujubeanz:
Clarification??!!

To clarify, for a rooted Kindle Fire to use an external keyboard, you need the latest FLASH ROM Hash 3.0, and in doing so you lose ALL amazon prime/lender library priveleges? And you can't even charge the KF with the otg in? What's the deal? Who would want to do this? :confused::silly:
[Kindle Fire Accessories] boredjs:
Bad OTG Cable

I bought both the case keyboard and an OTG cable a few days ago.

Both arrives fast and couldn't wait to get it started but my KF isn't powering the keyboard.

I suspect that it's a dead/not working OTG Cable, and I already ordered another one.

I'll give a heads up when the new one comes with links to both items if the new OTG Cable works.

-boredjs
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Luker161:
Which did you buy? Can someone please recommend one? :D thanks!
[Kindle Fire Accessories] cyrus1988:
Have you been able to find one that ships to the uk?

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Did it work with AOKP?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Blackydress:
USB Keyboard issues

Thank you for all info. you gave here, you guys are great.

I am located in Turkey, want to use a usb keyboard with special Turkish characters with my kindle fire.

I installed:

Android 4.0.4 (Gederom #17) on my kindle fire. Now I am trying to connect an external usb keyboard; however, I can only get Microsoft Comfort Curve (5V, 100mA) working (a huge keyboard, defies the purpose) and that only works when fire is fully charged.

Another smaller keyboard (5V 20mA) does not work at all.

Is there anything to get the small keyboard work? Is powered buying usb hub the only option? :crying:

Please your help is appreciated.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] bilkal828:
I have the sanoxy keyboard from amazon (as mentioned in an earlier post) and a generic USB otg cable as needed. I'm currently running Jelly Bean (my KF obviously rooted, btw).

Can't get the keyboard to work. Does Jelly Bean have the 3.0 kernel? Or do I have to add it?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] inh:
I'm pretty sure JB has the new 3.0 kernel.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] tobiascuypers:
i use a jellybean rom and a keyboard with a micro usb adapter, my kindle recognizes the keyboard and i can use it for every thing
[Kindle Fire Accessories] bilkal828:
Thinking its my crappy cable then. :crying:

Well I got a new cable, spent six bucks on it. Very high quality and nice snug fit. But it still doesn't work with the keyboard OR flash drive!

Do I seriously need to buy a powered hub?

Anyone have any other thoughts? Could it be the JB ROM?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] amiweidling:
Im having a tad bit of trouble getting my keyboard to work on my kindle fire. I just flashed the newest rom from hashcode. Everything flashed no problem and caches were cleared.

For the record, Im using "this" cable and "this" keyboard.

Any advice/ ideas?? I was really hoping to use this shortcut to save me from buying a lousy ebook for data entry in college. Im a broke college kid, help me out :)
[Kindle Fire Accessories] zazahan:
how to tell whether the keyboard works

I tried to flash jelly beans rom, glazed ics rom, none of which seem to work. I just open the browser and try to type something into the address bar. Do you guys do other tests?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] domfafxmen:
I got the otg and keyboard and running jandycane

I bought the keyboard and it still is not working when I hook it up with the otg
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Blackydress:
I bought this otg from Amazon:

eForCity Micro USB OTG to USB 2.0 Adapter.

After trying with various keyboards I purchased another one (this is getting more expensive than I planned and I am thinking all this is not worth it):

SANOXY Slim 7 Inch Faux Leather Keyboard Case for Tabletpc Epad Apad MID Laptop Notebook Usb2.0 Stylus Stand

The problem is solved! :) It works great. The problem seems to be the keyboard and now I can type on my Kindle Fire. But in the meanwhile by turning my Kindle into an Android, I gave up my magazines. Amazon does not send magazines to an Android system. :( Maybe new Kindle Fire which will be introduced on the 6th will have blue tooth.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] zazahan:
Which rom are you using? Did you do anything in order for the keyboard to work? - e.g., reboot? did the num lock, cap lock work?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] 7pd3:
Any word? Got mine last year would really like a key board
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Blackydress:
I got Android 4.0.4 (Gederom #17) installed on my kindle fire, and the otg cable and keyboard I gave above. But my kindle fire is not a kindle fire anymore; Amazon does not delivery many things. :(
[Kindle Fire Accessories] synagr:
How do you get flash drives to work? I have the eForCity otg cable but it doesn't seem to recognize either flash drives or my keyboard. Had no luck with flash drives but my keyboard sort of worked spotty a grand total of two maybe three times. And by spotty, I mean horrible
[Kindle Fire Accessories] altitude909:
use a powered usb hub connected to the otb cable
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Leraeniesh:
With the latest 3.0 kernel, most keyboards work without the need to use a USB hub.

Check out any JB ROM to see for yourself.

Sent from R800x
[Kindle Fire Accessories] altitude909:
* edit

Its been a minute since I've look at the state of Hash's kernal and as of 9-16 "basic OTG functionality" seems to be in place.. Can anyone verify what works?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] synagr:
I have used both aokp ics Rom as well as jandycane jb Rom, and both had issues. Is there a better rom, or am I getting them from the wrong spot?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] altitude909:
I dont know what hashcode did with the kernal with regards to the power management chip, he said it was low priority and I wont hump his leg about it.

Here is what I know: The reason OTG devices DONT work is because the KF USB port is not designed to be bi directional as far as power goes. Whether it is even capable of this is unknown. I looked at this quite a bit under CM9 and the reason was clear, the port only puts out 3.3v when in OTG mode, USB spec is 5v and there are some devices that work fine at 3.3v, but most do NOT. Using a powered hub solves this issue since it supplies the 5v, not the KF port (and eveything works this way btw, I've used a bunch of flash drives, xbox controllers, etc. Pretty much everything that had support under ICS worked fine). I also played around with using level shifting circuits and that did improve things where I could convert 3.3v to 5v and get more USB devices to work but the current draw needed to be very low and the KF port was easily overwhelmed. If any of the above has changed, please feel free to correct.. I just put Hash's AOSP build on the KF so i'll do some testing tonight
[Kindle Fire Accessories] altitude909:
ok, same thing on jb, its still putting out 3.3v. powered hub is still the only sure fire way to get otg working
[Kindle Fire Accessories] synagr:
Any particular powered hub you recommend? I'm trying to keep the cost minimal as I'm also saving up for a camera and a few other electronic items.

In other words, is there a specific powered hub, relatively cheap, that actually is verified to work? I'm trying to spend less than $10 but I've got a feeling it's not going to happen.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] altitude909:
It really shouldnt matter, I got a small one from amazon that doubles as a high current charger (http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Port...id=1350479372&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+hub+charger) and use it with a back up cell charger battery (puts out 5v, same as the DC adapter it comes with) so I can use it on the go
[Kindle Fire Accessories] synagr:
Accidentally posted without quotes.

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Thanks so much altitude909 for your great advice. I ended up buying a usb hub from crazy cart on amazon and now my keyboard AND mouse both work. I second and confirm what you said, since I have seen it work with my own eyes. And I was sure you were correct, but I was so happy to experience it for myself. So thank you for putting it in terms that, even though confusing at first, now make complete sense. Computers can transfer to and from kindle because they have a power source.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] altitude909:
no worries, its a bit of a hack but its nice that it works. i bought the kf primarily for my kids for when we travel so being able to plug in a 64 gig flash drive with a bunch of movies is a big deal
[Kindle Fire Accessories] shar.amit@gmail.com:
Need Help

Dear Friends, I have kindle fire 2 and foldable cover for the same which came with inbuilt keyboard. Any simple way i can use that keyboard? I know that this keyboard came with usb standard 2'0. Hence cant connect same directly. I need to order one micro usb to standard usb cord. Do i need to install anything else or it will work normally.

I have kindle fire 2 which is rooted and i am using full android apps like google and aldiko an everything. Can u plz help me.

Thnks and regards,

Amit Sharma
[Kindle Fire Accessories] jessigirlrox:
kindle fire or hd?

Hi, I am just wondering if you are referring to the regular kindle fire or the kindle fire hd? I just got a KF and am really trying to find a way to connect an external keyboard so I can type college essays on the go!
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Guitarman:
It's quite easy to utilize an external keyboard. I use one on my KF all the time with only an OTG cable. I am running CM10/SGT7 ROM and it's a Logitech K-120 keyboard but many USB keyboards will work :)

Sent from my Fire Kindling A-Pad
[Kindle Fire Accessories] stylon:
5V on USB OTG

I have to check what Hashcode did on the 3.0 kernel. The KF indeed seems to output only 3.3v on the USB OTG port, but reading through the TWL6030 docs it does feature a "boost mode" that is capable of doing 5V @ 100-200mA. AFAIK, you have to set this up very early, before the first write to some I²C register, so it could very well be that someone even tried it, but failed because it's tricky to set up. I've already seen kernel patches to enable this on a development board (not sure wether it was the SDP or Pandaboard), btw, but need to dig that out again.

Best,

STYLON
[Kindle Fire Accessories] havok07:
Where?

Where did you order the otg cable and keyboard/case from? I searched amazon but can't really seem to find them. Thanks
[Kindle Fire Accessories] thegreylady:
Hey guys, I just got a keyboard for my KF2 and I'm getting an OTG cable in the mail today. I don't have a kernel installed and I'm not really sure how to go about that. Would I install it on my kindle directly from the web? Are there more steps after that? I have very little idea of what I'm doing so any help would be appreciated.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] chupchae:
Good luck!

You'll get more than idea what to do when You visit http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1552547 thread.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] vk135:
my sanoxy keyboard and new flash drive has just arrived.. Anxiously waiting for the OTG cable.. Hope it works on twrps CM10 4.2.2 ROM
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Guitarman:
Do you have a powered USB hub? What exact type of sanoxy is it?
[Kindle Fire Accessories] vk135:
No, I just plugged the sanoxy OTG to the sanoxy keyboard and the kindle just recognized it directly.

And if it helps, I'm using twrp's CM10 Jelly bean ROM
[Kindle Fire Accessories] Guitarman:
That's how my Logitech keyboard does too. I was wondering if you were going to need the powered hub for the flash drive
[Kindle Fire Accessories] vk135:
I tied it on my logitech keyboard too and it works great. I'm thinking of using the big keyboard when I'm at home and someone is still using the PC and the tablet keyboard when I'm out in school or somewhere.

@flash-drive

You won't need a powered hub either for the flash drive. Just check StickMount for mounting it though there is a hit or miss chance that it won't recognize your drive or will recognize it but won't mount it Dev thread here said its 99% mostly the fault of the cable but the same thing happened to me with StickMount. It recognized the drive when I plugged it in but it didn't mount it; I also tried manually mounting it too. I was frantic and thought that I should buy a new cable but I looked into the PlayStore and found another app that worked with my cable. USB to Go app mounts my drive perfectly well. Drawback though is that for the free version you will have to mount/dismount manually but its not really much of a bother. Transfer rate from drive to the kindle is pretty good too like 2mins for a 2GB file.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] alokin:
I have this keyboard case and as you can see it has micro usb cable. I connected it into the Kindle Fire but is not working. How to make this kind of keyboard to work on kindle fire? I cant use OTG cable because keyboard has micro usb cable. My tablet has JB from hash code.
[Kindle Fire Accessories] firehell:
will keyboard work with AOSP JELLY BEAN 4.2.2_r1

:confused:

I have first generation Kindle Fire with Hashcode AOSP JELLY BEAN 4.2.2_r1 will a keyboard work with this?

Or do I need Hashcode’s AOSP JELLY BEAN 4.3_r2.1 (which I am thinking of trying to Flash at some point anyway)?

And if I need a Hub – what kind of Hub are we talking about? What do I look for on Amazon (Germany)?

Thanks for your reply and help
[Kindle Fire Accessories] awepoidsfad:
Which Rom?

I purchased a sanoxy case with a usb2.0 hub and have tried flashing a handful of roms on my kf but no luck :/. I thought I downloaded the correct Rom with hashcode's kernel. Can you link the rom you're using? :)

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Which rom are you using to get that to work? Ordered mine but no luck :/
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jonstefad:
Hi Guys. I have recently installed the JuiceDefender app from the market (yesterday)

Everything was going great till today, my mobile connection is not working, it does shows the H+ or 3G on the taskbar with the 2 little arrows flashing like if it was working or is enable but it wont work, not even if I open the default browser, it wont work. Everything is working good (wifi, etc) just the mobile connection.

My APN is correct.

Im using CheckROM V4 without the dark knight kernel.

I unninstalled the APK but it still wont work.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AzureusPT:
Have you tried reseting APN settings to default just in case?
[Motorola Droid X2] Lord Nykon:
Can I flash Molten over Liberty?
[Motorola Droid X2] Travisdroidx2:
As long as they are the same kernal say 2.3.4 and you wipe data and cache and it will be fine.
[Motorola Droid X2] Lord Nykon:
I already did a nandroid backup,just curious if its possible, and if there any risks.