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[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
What?!?!? What on earth kind of logic is that? So what is one supposed to bring up? Zoo animals?

Windows Phone has competitors on the market. Namely Blackberry OS, iOS, and Android. You repeatedly point out the shortcomings of the Windows Phone platform and that "people" keep preaching that these shortcomings will disappear if people are willing to wait.

My point is simply the other competing OSes also have glaring shortcomings that Windows Phone does not have (Android with poor battery life and iOS with static homescreen). And they have not addressed this issues after being out much longer than Windows Phone.

The point is you have to wait with every OS, and depending on what you are waiting on you may have to wait a while. Pretty valid point to me, but your thoughts may vary.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
You want mobile gaming? Go buy a Playstation Vita or 3DS. Using a phone for gaming, for me at least, is utterly stupid. Maybe if they were short little games if you needed to waste 30 minutes, but anything beyond that... There aren't even thumbsticks for your phone, at least that i know of.

Until battery life and power draw from SoC's gets better, **** that mess.

While I understand your frustration, focusing on the lack of games. I don't know man. To each his own.
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
My DVP just exploded, its dead!!!
[Windows Phone 7 General] speedfreak228:
check out the fling mini for your phone they work great lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Same old song, over and over again.

Hasn't Microsoft been doing phones since 2000?

I bet you can't stay on topic, so let's bash another OS.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Windows Phone 7 General] slick13:
Idk... the iphone did have some pretty good games, but I haven't really found anything that my awesome trophy can't do. Plus the iphone's homescreen just gets really boring. It COULD have all the things you want it to have, but honestly I'd probably rarely use them.

I've had moments where I thought it could function more efficiently, such as better facebook integration (like more facebook features) but I really like the Windows Phone and I have a feeling things will keep getting better for it :)

I just hope they continue to support the Verizon trophy for a long time, because I just ordered it last month and won't be able to get an upgrade haha
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
Do your WinMo Roms work in Windows Phone?

Uh huh. We stay waitin' and you stay hatin'.
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Hating on what? Stay on topic please. Can you?

Or must you resort to personal attacks.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Windows Phone 7 General] thekiller99:
Err No so are you saying we shouldn't play games on a laptop? Laptops were initially designed for office work for portability but now everyone is trying to stuff the laptops with high end graphics cards for gaming.

If you go around in restaurants and malls i can assure you at least 50% of the people using phones are playing games on them.

The reason why i hate WP is that its lacking in the most BASIC and SIMPLE features eg

-Bluetooth transfer

...wtf i had that function years ago with my sony erricson T810 (or something)

-Pictures sort by name(ON THE PHONE) Zune has this feature but why doesn't it have it on the phone

-Killing apps directly on multitask screen

Do i even need to explain it you make multitask possible but you miss out on cancelling an app

-Add Google + in People Hub

If WP7 is so frantic about intregration how could they miss google+

-Ringtone volume independant from media player volume

This is utterly retarded do we even need to tell them why?

-Skype integration into phone without having to have "an app for that"

Yet again another intregration which is hard to miss

-Wallpaper after you unlocked your phone

Even my oldest phone can do that what makes WP7 so special that it doesn't need it

These are only the many simple features which are lacking in WP OS

What makes mango so ****ty to people other than people from USA is that all those cool features like Bing Audio,Local Scout and Bing Vision don't even work in other countries. I won't be surprised that it'll take years before they even support it in other major countries yet they boast and advertise it like crazy to reel people in and drop a bomb on them when it says "Sorry this feature is not supported in your region"

People who think WP7 is flawless can put a sign on their foreheads which says "Slap Me" because you really do need one.

Wp7 has so many flaws on the most basic stuff which is a total let down. The newly released feedback dev is useless. They only started reviewing them now when 4-6months ago there were no accepted features and no reviews.
[Windows Phone 7 General] drupad2drupad:
-Bluetooth transfer

Ok fair point, no advice but wait for Tango, it's in the pipeline from what it shows in dev feedback.

-Pictures sort by date(ON THE PHONE)

It can do by months, yes but by specific day and even time will be nice expansion of the feature.

-Killing apps directly on multitask screen

I think the dormant apps were taken to hibernation even pre-no-do. If you are thinking of WP7 as WM or Android, please don't. It's memory management is above par. Want to test it? Open as many apps as you want in a day. Dont press back button all day. Just press 'windows key' - I can bet, it doesn't die on you or run out of memory at all. If they give end users a system where you don't have to worry about closing apps because it's fantastic at memory management, why does it need 'x' button?

-Add Google + in People Hub

It's ongoing debate like all other google products - gmail, google search, google plus and youtube - read few threads and you will get an idea.

-Ringtone volume independant from media player volume

Yes, a separate one will be nice and can be expanded in future. If you go to end user feedback forum it's within top 15 (or at least was in 2011 december) requests. Please vote for it!

-Skype integration into phone without having to have "an app for that"

If you read forums, blogs you would know skype deal was closed in Q3 of 2011 and hence it will come along in tango or apollo as core integration to the system.

-Wallpaper after you unlocked your phone

I think I explain it in one of the earliest posts already.You can DO THIS RIGHT NOW! Just unlock the phone and you will be able to change the wallpaper etc. I am not going to link you to the threads because doesn't look like you are even trying to find out anything about your phone!

-The newly released feedback dev is useless. They only started reviewing them now when 4-6months ago there were no accepted features and no reviews.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Do you know when Mango was released? Do you know when the roll out finished? Do you know Tango is the next update? Do you know that those feedback are POST-MANGO? Seriously my friend, at least look at that giant post full of information I posted for you last night! I did most of the searching for you so that you educate yourself more with the OS, but you seem to have ignored it!
[Windows Phone 7 General] vetvito:
Show me how to change wallpaper? I'm unlocked.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Windows Phone 7 General] thekiller99:
Wallpaper

I unlocked my phone already what im trying to say is the wallpaper behind the live tiles.

Most of the feedback are always under review but hardly accepted. If the feedback doesn't have a lot of votes they don't even bother looking at it eg the audio in-dependency which was completely ignored in nodo,post mango,mango beta and official manga even thought lots and lots of people complained about it.

Im not saying i hate WP i love it because its unique and neat but sometimes it just makes me hate it when it doesn't have the most simple features. What makes me hate it more is the Local Scout,Bing audio and bing vision which is the major updates of Mango and i find out it isn't support in my country....
[Windows Phone 7 General] JVH3:
For personal use, I use a simple HP Celeron laptop. It is cheap. I am not a gamer. It even compiles simple dev projects decently. For work, I use a high end Lenovo laptop with an i7 and 8GB of RAM. It compiles millions of lines of code quickly, runs both a large SQL Server database, and an Oracle database and runs IIS so I can develop an intranet web application when completely disconnected from any network . I use it in a dual independant display mode with something like 1600x900 resolution on the laptop and the 2nd monitor. There are other reasons to pack a laptop full of power besides gaming.

I'd really like to see where you get your 50% from. Business users and adults don't frequently play games on their phones. Too much real life gets in the way. And when you get into home ownership and family, well your time disappears before you even think of playing a game. Enjoy your time to play games while you can.

Bluetooth file transfer. How important is it? As important as the telegraph when the telephone came out. As important as land lines when cell phones and Voice Over IP service came out. As important as the post office when almost everyone has email and online billing options. Some technology and services have an end of life. Not sure if you remember when they stopped putting a 3.5 inch disk drive on computers. Many complained (at first).

Bluetooth 2.0 is 3 Mbs. Even BT 4.0 is only 24 Mb/s - http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Bluetooth-Wireless-Network-Data-Transfer,9812.html A little faster than 3G. Not faster than WiFi. And sustained throughput does not see a continuous 24Mb/s.

When you open the photos tile, one option is Date. Tap it. All photos on the phone sorted by date.

Back arrow closes apps. Start button lets you start another one without closing. Reg hacks let you not dehydrate the suspended apps. Even Angry Birds will continue right where you left off if you take the time to tweek. If you don't use the registry hack, the apps are not consuming memory or running, so there is no need to worry about closing it. If you are using the hack, then it is only consuming extra memory, but not CPU or much if any battery.

Do you really think Microsoft is going to support Google+? Google makes Android. Microsoft owns over 1% of Facebook. Especially with the way Google has behaved with YouTube toward Windows Phone. Making an app for a competing platform is one thing, but endorsing a competing product is another.

I am a little surprised that Skype integration is not here yet. In the Spring they did expect a 2011 Q4 target for Skype on Windows Phone. But even if it is only 1 quarter off and delivered by the end of March, it still isn't that bad of an esitmate.

Now as I get to the end of your post, I am left wondering why you started this thread. Was it to belittle people that like the OS? I think most, if not all acknowledge that all OSes have flaws.
[Windows Phone 7 General] JVH3:
Why don't you take the time to use the User CP section and set your country so that we can easily see this information, along with carrier?

I think most assume users are from the U.S.A if they don't set this. But, even users in the U.S.A. should do this before posting or starting threads. It gives everyone a little extra information about your background without the need for you to say it in every thread.
[Windows Phone 7 General] thekiller99:
Ahh **** me I made a big mistake it was suppose to be pictures SORT BY NAME my bad.

Yeah please teach me how to set up wallpapers behind my live tiles.

My reason for starting this post are because of those hardcore fanboys who continue to bash other OSes not knowing there are flaws in WP. To point out how Microsoft is forgetting the most basic stuff and focusing on all the new stuff.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
Not good enough in my opinion. Accuracy could be crucial depending on the game being played.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sinister1:
Please take the time to read this, very interesting and it explains a lot on the subject of why WP sucks ass and donkey balls compared to WM.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1210660

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[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
I'm just going to touch on this subject because it's what I did. Everything else, I can feel ya on. Just because the user feedback site doesn't show any acceptances doesn't necessarily mean Microsoft hasn't either.

But no I wasn't saying we shouldn't play games on a laptop, I don't even know how you came to that conclusion. My point with the PS Vita and 3DS is that they're pocket portable gaming devices that provide functionality similar to what you want on your phone, which is also a pocket portable device.

Also, unlike laptops they're similar in the sense that they draw power on a smaller capacity battery.

Hence, why I said maybe when battery technology gets better and SoCs improve in power draw would i consider portable gaming on the phone.

Just because a ton of people are playing Angry Birds or whatever doesn't mean I can't think it's any less stupid at the moment. I
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
I know someone will complain about me mentioning this, but iOS got homescreen wallpaper in version 4, 1 year ago and 4 years into the life of the platform. I don't really remember anyone making a big deal of it then either
[Windows Phone 7 General] sinister1:
LOL that's because we don't care about IOS. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] thekiller99:
I wouldn't say WP7 sucks donkey ass, I used to have a SE X1 and it lags like ****. Its like trying to play BF3 with FPS of 10. Although WM allows quite a lot of customisations which is good for young devs. When you use a WP7 phone it feels like you are renting the OS and being restricted to certain stuff(Not going to list it). Releasing an Xbox live game every wednesday is a total joke compared to other mobile markets and other apps costs like heaps. WP misses out on all the popular games eg Zezonia 2,3 and GTA3 which are released on other platforms BUT wp7.

WP7 advertises on games eg Top Gun,SplinterCell which was advertise for months and im still waiting for it to get released and then here comes along with another ad advertisnig on games which will (no doubt) take months for them to release.

Im not even going to touch on iOS the ****tiest most useless OS out there
[Windows Phone 7 General] sinister1:
-Wallpaper after you unlocked your phone

I think I explain it in one of the earliest posts already.You can DO THIS RIGHT NOW! Just unlock the phone and you will be able to change the wallpaper etc. I am not going to link you to the threads because doesn't look like you are even trying to find out anything about your phone!
[Windows Phone 7 General] JVH3:
I am confused. Did you not just post the bottom part yourself stating that you cannot do this?

In anycase, this is kind of an alternative.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20471128&postcount=13

See how each tile is like part of a larger design in the lower left.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sinister1:
Yeap, why MS went the route of IOS beats the **** out of me, the reason Android is on top is because MS ****ed up and let them do it.WM was better than IOS with it's communist, dictator limited B.S. and now WP is the same exact thing. I love my WP but it sucks ass plain and simple.

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[Windows Phone 7 General] sameer516:
wp sucks

Windows phone sucks its like using Windows 2000 on high end system when u have win 8
[Windows Phone 7 General] JVH3:
I understood fully what you meant. That is why I said it is an alternative.

Many of your posts have messed up quotes, which has confused me. (Incorrect or non balanced open and close tags.)

I am trying to figure out if you know how to put the background image on like you show.

If you think it is possible or impossible to do this

And if the pic you posted is real or just a photo shop.

Please clarify.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
Who in here thinks Windows Phone is perfect? Straw man argument there. But there is no question that there are people that frequent this forum that think Windows Phone is useless and no one should ever choose it. and not just think it, post to that effect.

Windows Phone is far from perfect. Limited handset choice vs Android. No high end phones vs Android. Missing features vs iOs & Android. Limited, more expensive app catalogue vs Android & iOS. But there are some good reasons to choose it over iOS and Android:

1. Better battery life and more stable than Android

2. More dynamic homescreen and more handset choices than iOS

As long Windows Phone has a useful and different user interface, continued support from OEMs, app development, and updates to address missing features and bugs it will not die. But I guess a consumer is foolish for actually choosing Windows Phone.

Reverse question - if not Windows Phone then what should I buy?
[Windows Phone 7 General] downloaderintruder:
We all know that WP7 is not perfect, yes thats true, but every OS has its weak and strong points. So we all get that, but back to the thread, the reason WP7 has few games is because most devs make the apps for ios first, then porting it to other platforms would take time, hence waiting.

And about wallpapers, IMO its kinda useless when you cant even see the whole picture, but gradients would be nice. Ok so I'm not bashing ios against this but just take it as an example, you set a really cool wallpaper - you see most of it on the lockscreen, but you can barely see anything on the home screen. But if you set a gradient wallpaper it would look good. Same principle applies on wp7.
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
I agree and it makes sense devs would choose the most popular, busy market to peddle their trade. Apple's App Store has developed more of a culture of buying things, where I find people expect things to be free in Android. Surveys reflect that anyway with Android having more marketshare yet Apple's App Store having 6 times more revenue. Windows Phone will need more handset sales and more marketplace buying to spur on increased app development. Devs will still develop for WP since it is still an additional avenue and a less crowded market means your product does stand out more ;)

I agree on the wallpapers. Won't ever be as focal as it is in Android. If someone is into multiple homescreens and wallpapers then Windows Phone might be a tough purchase.

But which is important, quantity or quality? Once Microsoft Studios keeps pushing out high quality XB titles for WP gaming will be viable.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sinister1:
LOL. How about Windows Mobile :D

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Sorry for the confusion. My argument was about not being able to do this, the picture bleow is photo shoped but not by me I just found it online. :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Funny though, WP7 has been declared dead so many times, apparently its now a ZOMBIE!!! :D
[Windows Phone 7 General] ohgood:
Lol ! Noooo, the zombies were in the WP7 RTM parade video... even more lol
[Windows Phone 7 General] thekiller99:
Nah no way at the rate of 1 XB per week im still waiting for Top Gun which was in the first released XB games ad and its been flipping 4-5months. By the time i get it i would've lost interest in WP.
[Windows Phone 7 General] falconeight:
Get a Sony Vita
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
*sigh*

ActiveSync is the Sync Client for Windows which preceeded Windows Mobile Device Center. The Windows Mobile phone could Sync with a PC using this client over USB, Serial, or Bluetooth. You could also browse the phone's storage.

It supported Synching all Outlook data (Mail, Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Notes) as well as Pictures and Music (via WMC) in later versions. The last version of ActiveSync was 4.5.

Not hard information to find, straight from Microsoft:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp6/sync/installing-activesync.aspx

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Complaining about FPS gaming on Windows Mobile in 99% of cases is like complaining about FPS gaming on a PC with generic VESA drivers installed.

Don't think most Windows Mobile phones had hardware accelleration. That's why it's always been terrible for gaming - along with Blackberry. I think that's why HTC made such a huge deal about it when they released the HD2. They had to do all the work to get hardware accelleration in that phone, though, and they didn't release the source for it nor did they share it with other OEMs.

Anyone who has used Linux and not had a binary driver for their graphics card a while back knows what difference good 3D drivers made on performance - even 2D performance in many cases. I'd always pick my distro based on which versions ATI supported with their binary drivers for this reason.
[Windows Phone 7 General] thekiller99:
LOL why don't you tell anyone who doesn't like WP to get a laptop and skype from there
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Unfortunately, since everything you just posted is completely subjective, it proves nothing to anyone.

And, FYI, WP7 isn't better for most business users. I use both WP7 and iOS, and even the most basic function - connecting to my work calendar - is not possible on WP7. However, it is possible with iOS.
[Windows Phone 7 General] prohibido_por_la_ley:
Welcome to the official windows phone 7 bash thread for 2012. I think my views were already expressed by drupad,J2HV,scottsummers and nicksti.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I love my wp7 games. There has never been a better cellular game than ilomilo.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lovenokia:
i love windows phone multitasking(well the idea) but i dont like how only six apps are running at a time, i think that wp has potential but i think that people are exasperating about a lot of things about windows phone.
[Windows Phone 7 General] XxAndrexX:
Microsoft had a winning system, WM6.1, it was perfect for working and at the same time good multimedia. It was far above every other system, Iphone-dumbphone and android where caca in front of WM.

I had every program I needed, I even had skype, and was calling my mom in italy for free, when every dumb-phone user was paying money for calls.

there were many good PC converted games, I thought one day, x86 Windows and Windows Mobile would merge in one system, it seemed that everything could be posible with the integrated Windows Update that never seemed to work....

And now the crap is there, an ugly metro interface, with 99% of useless programs and games, no pointing system (no touchpad for fine-tap-apps like internet explorer), not even the features that WM had (like theetering and so on)...

Hey guys, but it runs smooth!!!! Thanks god! this is the most important thing!!! big icons for retarded people, and SMOOOOOOOOOOOOTH interface! thats all!!!

Every one knows WP7 is failing, but the problem are the people who tells that its not! so Microsoft says: ok, not everyone is complaining after all, so we can go on like this!
[Windows Phone 7 General] bobzero:
You can't tether on your device? I can tether via WIFI or USB on my LG Quantum, so it is not a fault of Windows Phone generally, maybe your carrier.

As a long time WM user, I don't believe WM could have continued in its current form and that the reboot WP provided is necessary for the long term success of the platform.

I do miss some of the geek features of WM - like how cool was it to get TMC events from the FM radio. But I don't miss the many negative features of WM - slowness, freezing, painful user experience, ect.

In my opinion, the benefits of WP outweigh what we lost from WM. Also, I do believe most or all of the lost WM features will return eventually (1-2 year time frame).
[Windows Phone 7 General] wpxbox:
Tried Armed ?