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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bryanlim05:
I'm following it on Facebook. Man that asus rep guy is being quite rude =S

I'll copy and paste for you to read some of his comments

Edit: I'm doing this for all the people who can't access facebook at the moment =)

Mario: You guys at ASUS and other companies should know how the community reacts. Why do you allways try this stuff anyways? Why do you think locking a device would be a good idea? Seriously…

ASUS ‎@Mario, do you think your a genius and understand everything? There are positives and negatives to any solution. Think about it before you make a single sided comment like that. -Mark, ASUS

This one isn't so much as it is rude, but it is just a funny response

Step On You: what is the bootloader and why is everyone so mad about it? sorry i know nothing about these things really just know i ordered one and should be here in a few days and wondering if its something important...

ASUS Step On You, if you don't know what it is, it's not important to you. Basically it only matters to geeks, hackers, tweakers, modders. For normal users...makes absolutely no damn difference. -Mark, ASUS

Tjark: big fail ASUS

ASUS Ok Tjark. Whatever you say. -Mark, ASUS

New Edit:

What do u guys think of this response?

ASUS ‎@Jeff, the madness will, hopefully, come to an end very soon haha -Mark, ASUS

Edit:

Sounding good!

"ASUS ‎@Timothy HooglandYep, we realize that a great portion of Transformer Prime users are geeks/hackers, that's why, please wait for the official statement coming very soon =) -Mark, ASUS"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ChrisDos:
Last statement on the wall does not look good:

ASUS ‎@Terran, statement will address our reasoning. -Mark, ASUS
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
(about the rude comments by Mark from ASUS) Yeah, I noticed it too. :eek: They probably didn't heard about Ocean Marketing: http://www.examiner.com/video-game-...-marketing-gaming-pr-rep-to-avoid-at-all-cost
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cybik:
to this moment, I actually LIKE mark. he said, quite simply, that geeks are the ones caring for Bootloaders, and that normal users don't give a damn. He might be a mite abrasive but he's also true-to-fact and direct.

Also:

might be good.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
We are witnessing the last day at the job for Mark.

And no, the statement will not be good. It will be simply their reasoning for locking the device. There won't be an unlock by Asus. Their statement is only the 'beginning' of this guys.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mithent:
I agree, I appreciate that they might be annoyed at the fuss being made over this issue but these responses aren't professional. At this rate it sounds like the announcement is going to be "It's locked for a reason, if you want to unlock it then screw you". Hope not!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
MY opinion: They locked the bootloader on purpose to prevent

any

modifying until ICS is out. ICS update will introdcue a way to unlock it (of course with some drawbacks like loosing wrranty or so)

Otherwise none of the Facebook comments make any sense.

They can't really think "all the madness will stop" if the just tell us that they won't unlock it. That doesn't make any sense.

Same goes for the GPS removal by the way: They removed it from their sites until it gets fixed with the ICS update.

(this scenario is the most likely one atm, ASUS don't

want

to screw their customers, believe me ;) )
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thesandman2236:
Mark should be fired, hands down. He's a picture perfect example of terrible PR. I also want to add that it's better to keep responses positive, short and sweet. If he's had any training in PR it's always best to agree or deflect in a positive spin in regards to the subject.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ccsnet:
Actually I took that the other way my self.... especially after "Yep, we realize that a great portion of Transformer Prime users are geeks/hackers, that's why, please wait for the official statement coming very soon =) -Mark, ASUS"

T - as in Terran
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] indoz:
Guys we have done a great job thus far. But we also need to continue to be respectful on the facebook comments since this is our only direct communication with asus right now. Continue to fight the right way!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thesandman2236:
I agree -- in fact I highly doubt they'll unlock the bootloader with pressure from Nvidia. They want to sell Windows 8 tablets -- not cheaper android tablets that can run windows 8. (I'm sure they'll give other numerous reasons)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ChrisDos:
People will still need to purchase Windows 8 to be able to run on a ARM device. Then they will come to the nightmare that there is hardly an applications ported to ARM.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
If they don't unlock it it's going back to the store
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ajkid93:
I am not saying to stop this completely, but just give them a ****ing chance. Look now, 3 hours after I made my post a simple response. They are sure to have a full response providing everything that we want. During war when a ceasefire is being brokered, do you continue to fight in the mean time? No, you cease (for the time being) and let negotiations occur.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jatkins09:
To be fair, he was talking about the hard drive shortage with that response and not the Prime bootloader uproar.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bryanlim05:
Ahhh thanks for that! I skimmed past a lot of whiny posts. Some people do make some good points tho. We all need to relax till their response I suppose
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] 0okami:
Signed petition, and posted on google +

I dont own one, but I'd be royally angry if did buy one and it is locked. It would be going back to the store as a dissatisfied customer return.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joe14:
I have to agree with that. We can't expect answer from ASUS in 3 min. All of you that have worked on remotely similar projects you know that after such response from customers/public you usually need at least 1 work day to do a proper response... And probably that decision cant be made in USA... Maybe in Taiwan or... no idea where main office is...

All of you expecting answer in 1 hour consider this.

I think it's a great success so far. We've been noticed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
The madness comment actually would be pretty funny if it was about this case. But he made some other comments that were quire rude for a PR guy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
We surely have been noticed every member of the board of directors got flooded with emails from change.org sup hopefully we get that statement soon
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chrisfu:
To any that have asked for Mark to be sacked: get a grip.

Calling for someone to be fired for being a straight-shooting geek and NOT a suit need their heads examining. Let him do his job.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tbns:
It's true that we all get irritated when we hear canned responses (which tell us absolutely nothing) from customer service reps and PR people.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Olkflx:
If non geeks don't care about bootloaders leaving it unlocked won't hurt anyway. Standard users don't care about beign able to install other operating systems on their computers but companies don't lock the bootloaders. What's next, asus motherboards wich can only boot windows and you can't upgrade it to a new version unless asus does it?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
I think they will remove Mark from the site and say he was never there just as with the GPS. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MACBLACK91:
Damn :( I just ordered it yesterday and I didn't read all this... So if they won't unlock it there won't be a custom rom:( i will have to send it back
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
In response to the mail they send me that the bootloader is encrypted for security reasons I proposed to them to lock bootloaders in their laptops if it's all about security. If they do this, you can blame me. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ultrastigi:
Just posting so I can find this easier.

Keep up the fight! My prime should be shipping jan26-feb9. If nothing is said then I might just cancel it and get something else.

I already have 1 locked bootloader device. I don't want another ---v
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gruntguy:
Tomorrow's news: ASUS announces all future ASUS mobile computers will have locked bootloaders. Manhunt begins on a person known as 'Magnesus'.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rubi76:
Just posted on google plus and signed a petition.

I dont own the prime yet but its on preorder.

I think that everyone who didnt post anything yet,should..?no reason to stop...

Asus global looks at the number of posts and comments and if they stop it might show them this was just a rant that is not consistent.

Also,this has nothing to do with asus usa or its employees..its a global company and the decisons come from the headquarters.

What actually pisses me off the most was asus italia telling us how to use the gps...

As if they tell you only to use a camera in certain situations otherwise get a camera..or dont watch movies on the tablet for movies get a tv...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Lol!

That would suck so much for him and everyone who likes asus!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] biggem001:
lets see!

10char
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
We can't relax right now we need to show our presence more that ever! Show we won't give up!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] briant97:
I just tweeted it on my blog and personal account. I also signed petition and have a few days left to return so Asus better release a statement quick or there is a possibility this is going back.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Darkseider:
Absolutely not. Do not relent and show no quarters. There can be no relaxing or waiting during negotiations. Continue to apply pressure through emails, signing the petition, ASUS Global Facebook, etc... ASUS is a corporation, no more no less, their main goal above all is to make money and be profitable. To deny them that through product returns, bad press, etc.. is the ONLY way they will listen. This is the reason HTC changed their policy. Keep the pressure up and do not stop.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cyi1:
Asus Facebook status:

"Official statement on bootloader for the Prime coming in a bit. Hang on tight guys.

In the mean time, relax."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Swiftks:
MMHAHAHAHAHHAHA
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Evo_Shift:
My guess is their official response will be what was reported here by Magnesus...it is encrypted for security purposes. They will not give the exact reason or what security would be compromised if unlocked.

However, all the negative comments regarding the poor quality and GPS issues may get them to actually do something about it since the techies making the most noise are the people who recommend tablets to family and friends and the way things have been going it would be hard to recommend this to anyone right now.

If it was really a huge security issue then every cell phone manufacturer would encrypt. This tablet doesn't even have 3G/4G.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] combat goofwing:
http://www.facebook.com/ASUS

announcement soon
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Do not relax this is the time we have to stay strong.. This means they already made a choice of what to do on the issue they are just wording it with lawyer's now.. Or whatever they do PR analysts or whoever reviews statements
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] logicalextreme:
I think Mark is a bad PR guy. That's why I like the sound of him...who would ever want to interact with a "good PR guy"? Pretending that your company isn't comprised of human beings is one of the lowest forms of lying.

Do we know that this is an Nvidia/Tegra issue specifically and that Asus are under pressure? Is there more information on this? I was surprised to read about Nvidia's possible involvement. I didn't think that the bootloader was quite that low-level.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Nvidia got flooded with emails and twitter spammed also! Same with Andy Rubin at google he might convince asus otherwise!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] astralmind:
As long as the comments remain civil I would agree with you. So far the posts I've seen on facebook were for the most part pretty factual and not just random rants so... that's great.

Don't think for a moment that ASUS will bend or react easily.. Corps like those only take action when they evaluate it is the profitable course to take.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TraxterMaster:
Quoted from the Asus Product/Service facebook page.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Hell I would pay asus up to 20 f

Dollars to unlock my bootloader 20x3k =Alot! If they wanna make money its still not right but if they unlocked it now I would pay!

Even though it should be free! (as I would pay around that to RMA it back to Newegg in a refund and end up loosing like 60 bucks in accessories!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bryanlim05:
Wait what?

"

ASUS

Are you looking forward to seeing what we're going to announce at CES next week? We've got some exciting new products coming and are just finalising things before the show.

We'll be keeping you up to date here on Facebook and also on TechInStyle.tv, so stay tuned!"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cyberbeam:
i also signed the petition.

my transformer prime was preordered a few days ago on amazon, i really think about sending it right back after i receive it and get the galaxy tab 10.1.

encrypting boot loaders is lame!

as this isn't done for "security reasons", but for locking customers out of THEIR devices! that's REALLY lame! :cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Spam that new post guys! Comment away! Tell them we don't want your locked down hardware what happened to the asus who encouraged us to overclocking!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] FunkyMcBain:
Tis a new day let's keep this going!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fuzzer:
does anyone ever read at least the last few pages of a thread, or do they just pop in and comment like they are the only ones with the "idea/commnet"... fb update already posted multilpe times....and probably many more....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bryanlim05:
I make sure what I'm posting hasn't been posted yet before I do it =D I also just edited my older posts to add new info
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] new2q9c:
Keep or Return?

I have until this Friday to return my Prime. Overall, the build is really good (no creaking, no loose parts). The software is experiencing a lot of force close while using the stock browser, words with friends, gallery etc. My wifi is decent and I don't really care too much about the GPS.

I decided to get an Android tablet so I may be able to root it. Without this, it's just another tablet. :(

Anyway, are you guys planning on returning/selling your Prime if Asus do not unlock the bootloader? Thanks in advance.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] caanda45:
I am planning on selling mine if the boot loader is not unlocked, and I will cancel my order for the dock @ Amazom.com....simple as that!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gruntguy:
I bought mine in the US, and can flog it here in the UK on Ebay for a very tidy sum if I need to.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
Quote from facebook:

I got similar reply from Polish Asus (my translation): "Unfortunately encrypting the bootloader in Android system is dictated by the design of Tegra3 platform which has build in encryption and bootloader locking.

We are not against modifications of software and changes are not made to make the modifications harder. Changes are to increase the level of security, which can be threatened because of increasing number and complexity of malicious software.

As the Asus company we can't unfortunately support other than original versions of Android which is why eventual modifications made by users are done on theirs and only theirs liability".

Based on Asus of Poland & Italy responses.. I don't think we'll like what MARK has to say with his OFFICIAL statement.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Darkseider:
I take delivery of my Prime tomorrow according to the tracking info. It will remain sealed and if there is no news or negative news regarding the bootloader it will be returned within the 30 day window. I will not and have never condoned or supported any company that has done this. Motorola lost me as a customer after the OG Droid and now ASUS will lose me as well. There are plenty of alternatives out there now and the only way to get any corporation to do the right thing is to hurt their profits.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
I'm afraid they might just ignore the boot loader and announce when ICS will be out (end of the week?)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ready2Mosh:
Wow, posted on their fanpage and it got erased in less than a minute. I think cancelling my order will send a bigger message, if more people would do that I think they would get the picture.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tbns:
Make sure you are clicking 'everyone' on the wall... common mistake. I don't think they are deleting any posts at all.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
They are I have seen posts a few seconds old disappear and the post below it be on top
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
Yeah, it's what they e-mailed me after my question on bootloader. It's also in this thread twice already, I posted it here first, then on their facebook. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Evo_Shift:
So any phone with a Tegra 3 chip will be encrypted. This is going to make a lot of people angry with nVidia.

This doesn't stop them from releasing the key. It just means we are taking our own risks. We don't need them playing the role of the parent for us. But, we know that won't happen. I am really hoping a tablet is announced at CES (without Tegra 3 I guess) that has a nice keyboard dock. I will still be within my return window of the Prime so it will be a very easy decision to return it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
I wouldn't say that! Bifida is all four over clocking
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
From Facebook:

"Elrex Yeoh: ASUS Taiwan just released an official statement, which covers some aspects we would really love to know:

1) ICS will be pushed to devices around the world on Jan 12th (woot!)

2) GPS problem is mainly due to the aluminium backplate on the device. they won't be able to do much about it, that's why they removed the GPS from the specs on various sites to avoid causing any misunderstandings among users.

3) BOOTLOADER: they won't unlock the bootloader, and the purpose of locked bootloader is to support media renting service on the device and its stability. BUT, they are working on releasing a bootloader unlocking tool for those users who would like to unlock it. however, the use of this unlocker tool wil void the warranty immediately.

source: https://www.facebook.com/asusclub.tw "

So it was because of DRM afterall.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tbns:
HECK YEAH!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
Well, if that is mirrored by the other regions, i say that's a relatively agreeable solution.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Haro912:
If this is legit I will be so happy. And doesn't the device come up as rooted when you try to rent a movie out of the market? I thought I read that somewhere around here. That is happened to at least one person
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Evo_Shift:
I would be happy with these results. It would be similar to how HTC handled it. The losing of a warranty kind of sucks but if you make sure yours is built well before unlocking you should be fine.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Frosty666:
1. YES! :D

2. NOOO! D:

3. It's better than nothing :)

Sent from my Snapdragon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] halljo:
!!!!! LET US FIGHT !!!!:mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] c0d3w4lk3r:
My guess is that they will give some bs argument like mentioned in previous posts (security issue) and will not unlock the bootloader... for now. Feels like they're not getting the storm HTC did. Are we not clear enough?

I posted on the Asus Benelux FB wall, no comments there by Asus and I'm not expecting they will comment at all.

As long as they don't unlock the bootloader I'm not buying.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
YES BUT THE QUESTION IS WHEN WILL THEY RELEASE IT!?

well they at least give us root before the tool?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jyan_osu:
Me thinks someone needs to create a new backplate that either has a plastic area near the top where the GPS antenna is or a replacement backplate where it's all plastic. Either way, wonder if that will help
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] biggem001:
**** DRM

10Char
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thenrz:
If they are admitting defeat on GPS, current owners should get a free Bluetooth GPS antenna or something. One thing that drew me was the ability to use it as a nav device if I needed it... It was in the specs, so it's not thinking crazy to assume it would work.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
What is funny (sad and funny) is that movie rentals don't even work in most countries.

@thenrz - yes, and a tablet is great for navigation! Not only in a car.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Mission accomplished they are taking the path HTC did! wonderful!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] di11igaf:
At work didn't have chance to check feeds, link to where they said this?.

Man had no clue my findings of the tegra 3 nvflash and encrypted bootloader would cause this kinda ****storm, but hey if it worked, thats fu#$ING great!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] John Kotches:
It's a hollow victory since unlocking invalidates the warranty.

Installing RH, Solaris, Ubuntu etc don't invalidate the warranty on pc hardware and this is the same thing on the tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thenrz:
Amen. I'll play with ICS for a few weeks and make sure things are square, and then it's gonna be all fun playing with ROMs :) Loving the tab other than the obvious. My first.

ASUS has taken care of me in the past. I continue to be hopeful!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tbns:
Come on, this is a perfectly fair solution. They lock the bootloader so they don't have to deal with people bricking devices and trying to get a warranty replacement. This makes it easy for them to track people who unlock the bootloader, thus invalidating warranty.

It's the HTC solution, and I think it's quite fair!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Frosty666:
Yes, except for the total loss of warranty, even if its a hardware fault that's obviously not the result of software modifications.

Too bad about the GPS though, navigation was one of the main reasons why we wanted it in the first place, but I guess I'll survive.

I wouldn't mind having a matte plastic square in the top corner of my Prime if it means that the GPS will work. Perhaps they could even put the wifi antennae under there as well. Hell, I'd PAY Asus a bit extra if they did that.

But that's just my $0.02.

Sent from my Snapdragon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MACBLACK91:
so how do you think this will work with the unlocker? you guys think that we will have to put in our serialnumber and than they know its unlocked?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nunyabiz:
Bad comparison, installing an OS doesnt brick motherboard firmware. Most people recognize unlocking the boot loader and flashing an unsupported Rom will void the warranty.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
I agree, but still it's better than nothing. Keeping in mind that they use ONE key for all devices maybe there will be a way to unlock without losing warranty. And in EU I'm not even sure such invalidation is posibble as long as the device was broken from different reasons than your tampering.