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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dr. Hurt:
Any updates on this? Has the petition starter sent the letter to Motorola yet?!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ph3arr3t:
Motodev does have the xt910 DROID developer rom with unlocked bootloader available. I am waiting for the file to finish. Hope this is what people are after, I hope to be able to post soon.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
More info please?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
Do you have more info about it?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pranks1989:
Signed, tweeted and posted in FB but m sure pleas will fall in deaf ears!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ph3arr3t:
Ok, I went to the Motorola (motodev) website and I have a copy of the DROID RAZR developer rom, it's claimed the bootloader for the rom is unlocked. It seems that there are more users rooting the phone than they expected. Soon as I can figure out how to post either the torrent I made, or a link to the rom itself I will. Any ideas as to how I make it available?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
The developer rom will be flashable only to the developer edition razr where the bootloader was always unlocked...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dtrail1:
You can flash this rom without a problem. But some features are not usesable and your warranty will be void, a guy from Moto told me that. He also told me that Motorola will be owned by Google soon. Theya are just waiting for the Chinese. When Google owns Moto, everything will change! They plan to unlock the phones and make us happy ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
1. Google bought moto just because of the patents

2. I am not sure but as far as I know, the motorola's mobile division was not sold to google

3. If moto is owned by google, it doesn't mean that they will unlock bootloaders next day - if they will, probably only the new phones will be released with already unlocked bootloaders..

To summarize - we are screwed as long as we have razrs.... :-(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] johnlgalt:
1 true, definitely party of the reason.

2 false. It is mobility they bought. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303360504577414280414923956.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

3 doubtful. If Google mandates an unlocked bootloader, Moto Mobi will provide the file like HTC did.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
I don't care who owns Motorola now or in the future, the damage is done, I will never ever buy anything with a Motorola badge. They have evaded our questions, lied to us and mislead us all along with false promises of unlocked bootloaders and release dates for ICS. Never again.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] johnlgalt:
I've seen VZW lie, but not Motorola....

But you're entitled to your opinion and to make your own choices. I've loved every Motorola device I've every had, locked bootloader on this one notwithstanding.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] extinctionbb:
until now

which moto devices have official unlockbooter

Do GSM Atrix have a offical unlockbooter way?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
not official but there is an unlockad bootloader for atrix
[Motorola Droid RAZR] aikon96:
HEy guys, now china said ok to the google / MOTO deal:

http://www.arabstoday.net/en/20120521137847/china-clears-google-motorola-deal.html

Perhaps google will now unlock this gay bootloaders...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BytecodeMe:
Signed the petition, filed with the FCC.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
The reason I still haven't given you guys any updates is because the Chinese regulators gave Google the thumbs up - I think we'll launch a whole new movement, OPMOSH3, really soon, now that the Google deal has closed (as of today!) and they've forced Sanjay Jha to step down, putting a Googler (hopefully one with a head on his shoulders) in charge. We should give them some settling time, first, though.

Stay tuned!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
You should send in this one to imo
[Motorola Droid RAZR] deBricker:
Finally. I switched carriers just to get away from Moto devices (I had a Droid X on Cricket and I am now using a SGS device with Straight Talk). I can't wait till the unlocked bootloaders come out... That means I can really get down and dirty and dev some ROMs for the DX :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] librarat:
Signed, Email'd and harrassed via phone.

I'm so tired of this, as we all are.

Viva la revolucion!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pjgowtham:
signed
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dtrail1:
Signed

Gesendet von meinem XT910 mit Tapatalk 2
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
What happend with this petition?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fix-this!:
simple... they gave up.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
*taboo buzzer*

I just gotta find the time.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fix-this!:
the time for what? this phone has been out for a long time now and i think it's clear moto has no intentions of unlocking any bootloader on it. probably my first & last moto device.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] benefit14snake:
Waiting for my galaxy s3!!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Thats what verizon claims it creatses security issues(bs) it also frees up the mobile hotspot. You can petition one with out the other. Im not saying dont blame moto half u people need to get im not arguing. But im trying to get u all to realize verizon is at fault to. They choose to remove the unlock option from verizon phones. Moto yes needs to unlock all phones but the fact is when u get moto to unlock all phones. Verizon will not allow any moto phone unlocked and moto will respect the request. Itz that simple u need to push both sides. As for other phones such as htc they arent shipping an unlock tool. They are posting up as an option outside of verizon. So is samsung but they void ur warrenty and any insurance u have. MOTOROLA is respectiong what verizon is asking. So push BOTH SIDES.or its going to end up like the bionic. No where.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
There is two parts in this verizon who wont allow moto to unlock them and moto is the only.company respecting that. U need to push both. Yea moto isnt providing an unlock for there phones. Maybe igs coming in the ics update maybe not. But push verizon who wont allow them on there network. When i said verizon states it creates a security threat to there network i didnt mean thats what i think thats a load of crap there using it as a loop hole to by pass the fcc open device policy.read the article i flippen posted on the fcc thank you
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Also to ur answer thats completely different it uses a different frequency they purchased back in 08 09. Read the article i posted and this will all make sense
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bb12489:
Just singed to be 294 on the petition. Also posted the link on moto's facebook wall to gather support from more people in the community that want an unlocked bootloader.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] EDNYLaw:
I'm a lawyer and I drafted a complaint in the form of a legal brief and filed it with the FCC and sent copies to my state's senators. Now one senator, Senator Gillibrand, is looking into this issue and following up with the FCC. The complaint uses section 27.16 of the code of federal regulations (where the C Block regulations are found) and lays out a detailed argument about how Verizon is violating the regulation. I asked Nitroglycerin to look over the technical aspects of the complaint to make sure I wasn't saying anything that was not accurate. He checked it and said it was good to go. Here is a link to the complaint http://db.tt/Z441y4yG please use the link and send copies to the FCC and your senators. They will listen because I did their job for them and laid out the argument in legal terms. Just download the document, fill in your info in the blacked out spaces and send it in.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Thank you. I was never against petitioning moto im just trying to help we neex to pressure both sides
[Motorola Droid RAZR] willbur73:
rewrote and emailed each address.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] toasterr:
Signed petition and posting on Moto's wall.

The VZW excuse is a copout response and does not explain why I the RAZR bootloader is locked in Canada.

May have to get the Galaxy Nexus if this isn't remedied.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] justibasa:
Just signed. Hope this works looking forward to really being able to use my phone. The assclowns better listen.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wooooowwe:
I will re-post this on moto forums.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Its not an excuse geez. The bootloader is two part. Your in canada the reason there isnt a bootloader on moto. But for all VERIZON users. Unless verizon comes to there senses the razr will not see the bootloader. Your in canada. Verizon is paying for the verizon exclusive phones bionic razr as examples. The bootloader is two part motorola because there not releasing bootloaders for other phones. Verizon because for all verizon users will not see it as long moto respects there request
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
EVERYONE NEEEEDS TO READ THIS.

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/2...-fcc-violation-story-that-is-floating-around/

This will explain why verizon needs to be pushed as well. You can push moto and that awesome if they will will unlock other phones in diff networks. Cool but this article will explain why verizon WANTS THEM locked. And it also explains there being illegal about keeping them locked. Its also explains what motos arrangement was so verizon could keep them locked. Before you write off the fact verizon. Shouldnt be pushed REEEEEAAAADDD THE ARTICLE. Allso file the complaint form to the fcc
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
http://www.talkandroid.com/68708-wh...roid+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)#.TwT7i49Z7rV

Read this too

To answer everyons question on why the razr not on verizons network will still have a locked bootloader. Becuase all 4g LTE devices that use the C Block frequency all razrs bionics all of those phones will be using the frequency that VERIZON bought for 4.6 billion now because they own that frequency this means that any phone using this frequency has to have permission to be on there frequency or network. By moto unlocking the phones that use the verizons lte network or the c block frequency. With out verizons consent moto is giving access to there frequency which is used for the mobile.hotspot without permission where permission is needed. Htc phones and samsung phones dont use the c block frequency.

t from my DROID RAZR using XDA App
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
So if we reach 500 signs, we can petition Moto?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fargles:
signed the petition! We're pushing 500 now! here's to this actually working! I posted this to my personal facebook and also on my blog.

and @globed I don't take advice from someone who a) ignores the arguments made by the other parties involved and b) doesn't have the slightest sense of grammar.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
I read somebody saying they are a lawyer. So from the letter below, you think I can sue Moto for lying?

Dear Mr. Richeek Dey,

Thank you for writing us at Motorola Customer Care.

With reference to your mail regarding MOTOROLA RAZR XT910, we would like to inform you that Boot Loader in this handset is unlocked from Motorola in India.

Please Note: We do not recommend you to upgrade handset's OS unofficially, as doing the same will void it's warranty and also may lead it to complete dead.

You can update your incident by simply clicking on the following link:

https://motorola-global-en-aus.cust...t_page=myq_upd.php&p_iid=16557303&p_created=1

You may also alternatively call us direct at the following number:

1800-3000-4343 (Toll free from all Networks)

Warm Regards,

Harsh Dhawan

Motorola Customer Care - India
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
If someone wishes to set up a petition for Verizon to "allow the manufacturers to freely dictate the locking/unlocking of their devices' bootloaders", that'd be helpful~~~
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fargles:
by the way I just got this back in my email:

"Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

yossi.cohen@motorola.com

Technical details of permanent failure:

Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.4.1 Relay Access Denied (state 14)"

I'm not sure if I am the only one or what, it is just an FYI
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Lol its not advice its fact bro. Read oh wait or do u not even read half of.nething posted? Im not arguing! Haha at all im not disputing the fact motorola needs to unlock them but verizon will sue neone unlocking or granting access to the network /frequency. Without permission. So sorry good.sir for knowing what im talking about. Sorry your p.o.ed cause u dont do ur research before u start getting pissy.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Yea i shall do so but i encourage everyone to file a complaint against verizon. Thats the only way to get through to verizon is perusing legal matters. But i will be signing the moto petition btw i just havent had time . But verizon needs to be pushed at the same time.as moto.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sniffs:
Exactly, people are moving on(away from Motorola).

Motorola bit the hand that feeds.. they sold less devices in the entire 2011 year than Samsung had JUST IN PREORDERS for the SGIII.

See ya Motorola.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
Really sad this, I am still hoping that Google can fix Motorolas policy about bootloaders..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bwheelies:
RAZR series is now more popular than iPhone on Verizon so I beg to differ.

sent using SHAVR MAXX
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mechapathy:
DOH! You're not gonna be happy. . .
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bane58:
Motorola saying their goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come.

http://androidcommunity.com/motorol...ootloaders-coming-soon-20120711/#entrycontent

Ill believe it when i see it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BytecodeMe:
As the article already states, they've been saying this since January 2011, they're just stringing us along. Unless Google is starting to take control...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
Agreed, I wont believe it until I see it...but really Google need to fix up this mess, Motorola is just one big ****ing joke right now
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
So what happend to this? Did you send it to Motorola or is this whole thing dead? Cmon guys...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] halfdriven:
Is this for real? Please tell me it is a joke.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BakaPhoenix:
I think it will probably some ****ty thing like the developer edition, so the other buyer will be f*cked up, like the razr dev edition, that nobody cared since everyone already bought the normal one
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Mobzter:
i think this just says it all

http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-buy-elsewhere-if-you-want-custom-roms-20110119/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
19 january 2011, more than a year. Things changes, they cant have it locked forever.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
Lots of He Said, She Said here... Are we really taking what some other site said someone told them that Motorola said... on a YouTube comment... as gospel?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] halfdriven:
You know its an opinion and not fact when the opening sentence is wrong.

"We all know Android is set to be an open platform, but in the end it’s the hardware manufacturer that makes the decision to just how open."
[Motorola Droid RAZR] twolostminds:
I believe most people who start these threads, petitions, etc have good intentions but continue to travel down the same failed paths.

No matter how many times we rage against the machine or wave our cyber-fists in the air Big Corporations like Motorola are not going to unlock their boot loaders unless the federal government forces them to obey Block 4 laws.

Our wonerful Congressmen(women) aren't going to do a thing about making Moto unlock the bootloaders because they have no clue what a bootloader is or does. Hell, most of them need their grandchildren to set the clocks on their VCR's. And they have VCR's because they don't want to embrace that DVD fad.

A solution to force every cellphone equipment manufacturer and wireless carrier to unlock bootloaders.....

Gain public support and embarrass Congress into doing their job.

How you ask??

Here is a good start. The federal government mandates that all wireless carriers and wireless equipment manufacturers make smartphones accessible to the disabled.

Now ask yourselves, especially you Dev's, how a locked bootloader hampers programmers abilities to fully integrate accessibility software into a smartphone. How custom ROM's cannot be created for the hearing impaired, the low vision/legally blind, completely blind and also the physically handicapped. Sure there are pieces of software here and there that help to a certain extent but there is no integration and locked bootloaders not only hamper programmers but make it almost impossible for software to be created to give the disabled access. Even the ACLU might get interested if the Dev's of XDA can create a comprehensive and coherent statment supporting this stance. Mainstream media will pay attention to this topic because the handicapped = far better ratings than a relatively small group of programmers.

It's an election year folks, no politician wants to be labeled as ignoring the handicapped.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BakaPhoenix:
I don't think all this is needed.

I made a mistake buying the razr without informing myselft properly and now i'm thinking to never buy motorola again. Motorola lost this quarter 233 milion. Slow update, continuos delay, and poor support for development doesn't help the sell. Google didn't care about motorola. Is a matter of time before it will close.

It's a shame because the razr is really a nice device, but now i hate motorola, if they don't change i will never buy again from them.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] MyEntityRemains:
LMAO....Right on genius!

---------- Post added at 03:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:12 PM ----------

Motorola will close? Wow, are you ever naive. Motorola is so much more than phones.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
Motorola will not close but if they want to obtain the trust of their customers they need to change things around, and they need to do it ASAP. If you are reading this Motorola, **** off and unlock our bootloader.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BakaPhoenix:
Do you think that Motorola is going good? This q2 they lost 233 milion this mean that they didn't make any money and lost it, not only the mobile section but the entire society. It's possible that the state will never let a huge company that give many works sink, but 233 million loss is huge.

Yet they don't even try to change their policy. I'm not naive i'm just looking objectively the situation. 10 years ago nobody tought that nokia will fall, yet look at it now.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
But as I said, they still have a chance to change their mind. Unlocking the bootloaders and giving better customer support is some good things to start with
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BakaPhoenix:
If you read the post before more or less i said the same thing :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
Motorola Mobility is owned by Google now. Google posted a 2.79 BILLION dollar profit. That's up 11%. An operating loss of 233 million is a drop in the bucket. Neither Google nor Motorola are going anywhere. Motorola gives Google some much-needed patents and finally the manufacturing arm that they've wanted. People who scream for unlocked bootloaders are probably 1 or 2 percent of the buyers... statistically, to them, we do not matter.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] johnlgalt:
The Motorola loss us about 9% of what Google made. I'd hardly call that a drop in the bucket.

If you made 100000 salary per year, and you found out your kid wasted 9000 on...sex, drugs and rock and roll...i doubt you'd say it was a drop in they bucket :P
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BakaPhoenix:
If you check only the stat of motorola you will read something different, Motorola made 1,25 bilion of REVENUE that is the 10% of the total revenue of google, but Motorola made a PROFIT of loss of 233 million. If you don't know the difference is simple, the revenue is all the money they get without counting the money spent to salary, prime material, production etc. The profit is the the total considering the revenue and the expences.

So even if motorola gave 10% of revenue of google, the total is that it made google lost 233 million. If continue to make loss is possible that google will close it or sell to someone else(only the productive section and keeping the patent). (and don't tell me that you will keep something that make you lost money and money....)

And note that in the entire 2011 motorola lost 285 milion and only this q2 lost 233. I think that you are smart enought to undestand that motorola is losing lots of money and google is not a life saver, if he saw that motorola will slow them he will dispose it.

P.s. google said that motorola will not have any advantage versus other company to make the nexus, so the next nexus could me made from any other company

And if you want some source check for yourself, every time i post you a source you consider it "talk from someone random".
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
"Motorola made a profit of loss..."

I think we're done here.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BakaPhoenix:
Never heard of oxymoron? I wrote it like that to emphasis how many money motorola lost, but ok, next time i'll speak more simple
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
OK, I think there's a language barrier in play here.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] johnlgalt:
Language barrier aside, the point he makes us akin to what i said.

But i have no language barrier. My post was readily understandable.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sniffs:
I think Verizon is tieing their hands. They pretty much pump most of their great phones into Verizon and leave the rest of the world with left overs.

Motorola should have bought out the rights to the DROID brand and run wild with it..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sRDennyCrane:
I doubt George Lucas is interested in selling rights to the Droid name...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mrhoogles:
re

any news?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
Well as i predicted all the devs is going away...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iolinux333:
Yes, I noticed that also. Live & learn I guess.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iBolski:
I would think by now everyone has learned that those on Verizon are screwed with the SG3. No unlocking of the bootloader.

This shows it's NOT Motorola but it's Verizon. Big Red is the culprit here.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
Unless kholk releases his kexec anytime soon I think the RAZR development will eventually die
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BakaPhoenix:
But the s3 is unlocked in the rest of the world, the razr and all the other motorola's devices are locked for everyone
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
Thank you, Google.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/motorola-to-allow-bootloader-unlocking-from-photon-q-4g-lte-on/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
And razr? Anyway awesome news
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
RAZR/already released phones = not happening (are you surprised?) but at least we know they're walking and talking at the same time after 2 years. That's... progress. :cyclops:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] eyriiii:
Sigh...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sniffs:
Huh? Verizon pays Lucasfilms a huge chunk of money to use the term "DROID". What I meant on my other post was that Motorola should have bought out their VZ agreement and took the DROID phone brand global..

This is why they are able to make "DROID" phones as well as that R2D2 Droid2..

http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/home

at the very bottom, "DROID is a trademark of Lucasfilms Ltd. and its related companies.

Used under license

."
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
It doesn't state that

you can interpret it as you like..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] BytecodeMe:
Here you go, there is a statement by Moto's twitter on that page. I would have just gotten the tweet, but I'm a twitter noob.

http://twitter.com/LucasArran
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
Lol ok not surprising thou
[Motorola Droid RAZR] razielpr:
Why verizon i have a Razr xt910 its not from Verizon it's from claro puerto rico and it's bootloader is locked so it's not Verizon but Motorola ho's keeping it locked.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] romdroid.:
Motorola, lol :silly: