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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
If I'm not mistaken, these high-res panels are also in short supply. If that's true, then their price will be much higher. Short supply + high demand = higher prices. Simple economics. I'm also pretty sure that the 2GB RAM on the Android tablets is to accommodate a larger frame buffer, and the iPad 3 will have to have 1GB RAM over its current 512MB.

All that means significantly higher prices. I don't expect any of these higher-res and higher-RAM tablets rumored to come out to be anywhere near the price of the Prime. I think the iPad 3 will be significantly more expensive and the iPad 2 will remain as a "lower-price" option (and won't go any lower in price than the Prime at 32GB, or the OG Transformer at 16GB). The Android tablets will be priced at $599 or more for 32GB, and there will remain Prime-equivalent devices at $499 or less. Hell, if Samsung/Motorola/HTC come out with high-res versions, they'll probably be $899.

For me, $499 is the max I want to spend on a tablet by itself, and I'm also not terribly sure that I'd want a tablet without the ASUS keyboard dock concept. I sure wouldn't pay $599 for a Tegra 3-based tablet with 1900X1200 pixels to push--SOMETHING has to give performance-wise. And I also like the extra brightness of the IPS+ screen more than I want higher resolution.

So, in short, the Prime's resolution is fine for me. And the screen is just luscious--bright and with uncanny viewing angles. Could it be a bit higher-res, to make text a little sharper maybe? Sure, but I wouldn't want it so badly that I'd be willing to put up with lower performance.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I'm completely satisfied with Prime display. I thought my Ipad had a great display but the Prime shows its display is clearly the best out of any tablet today in the market. major reviewers said so also like Engadget and Anandtech. Prime display is even better than ipad 2. prime has more PPI than it. plus prime has the highest contrast ratio of any tablet and the brightest. plus the viewing angles on this device is sick! lol. everything looks great to me on the display. especially when I recorded 1081p video using the rear camera. I was amazed at the quality and detail of video and display. I think Tegra3 has hit the sweet spot/optimal spot with the Prime and its resolution. we get great performance and a great display with atatanding battery life. Prime has set the new standard and set the bar high for next generation tablets to compete at.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
My

personal

opinion on this:

Prime's screen is totally perfect

Higher resolution will have some impacts which are:

You need better/brighter backlights to compensate the additional pixels

You have heaver battery drain due to more pixels

You need a better GPU (not only more RAM) to push all those pixels (not to talk about those crazy 2K and 4K screens)

Text is easier to read on 720p/1080p displays

I wouldn't see a difference between a 720p and a 1080p display in that size playing a movie

In order to use those screens for 1080p movies you'll need more than 32GB of memory (an average Bluray 1080p rip has about 10-15GB )

Those are my initial thoughts on that topic...

Conclusion: In my opinion 1080p screens are not worth the effort yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
I think the notion of Full HD 1080p on a 10.1" tablet is all marketing talk.

Not only is it a waste as far as video playback goes not being able to see the detail in the HD given the small screen, it will also tax the device's processor trying to render everything to 1920x1080, I can see a desktop PC dual core CPU having no problem with, but a low-powered ARM CPU.

Notice most 1080p laptops aren't smaller than 15".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] poofyhairguy:
To me its about app compatibility.

As it is Android already has WAY less tablet apps than iOS- Android tablets are a secondary development platform. That means that High-Res Android tablets will be (at best) the third tablet development platform, which means not great support.

I have the same issue with the GNex. Sure a 720p screen in a phone is nice, but MANY MANY Android apps are made for WXGA. Some don't even fill the full screen at 720p, or their interface breaks down. Due to how few phones have 720ps screens initially by the time the app market is full of apps ready for 720p the GNex will be obsolete hardware.

Whoever buys these high-res Android devices is taking the hit for all of us. By being an early adopter these people will literally feel every growing pain of the Android market as it catches up to high-res screens.

Meanwhile I am trying to get on what I call a "Low PPI Plateau." Between my SGS2 and a Transformer Prime I will have the two most common Android resolutions with hardware meant to maximize those resolutions.

By the time I am ready to leave my Low PPI Plateau not only will the hardware will have caught up to high-res needs, but also the market will be full of compatible apps.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] adiliyo:
1080p and above screens on a panel that is ~10" will show modest improvements in clarity, moreso with text, but even then it's very marginal for the cost, battery, and performance hit those tablets are going to take.

hell, i have a 27" 1080p monitor and a second 1280x1024 17" secondary monitor and even that that size, the quality of the two screens are very similar.

i feel like 80% of the whole high res panel is just marketing and of course once apple increases their screen res, everyone and their mother NEEDS to have the highest resolution screen that can be pumped out and charged on to their credit cards.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
It's 800, not 720. For me more problem is tiny letters than resolution while reading websites portrait on 800x1280 resolution.

Full HD resolution would be great for connecting to TV - you would have no rescaling then.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GCurry:
Best Resolution for Tablet

The TFP screen is about 1M pixels, and a full 1080p screen is over 2M pixels. So a processor would have to work 2x as hard to move the 1080p screen around as those in a 720p screen, roughly. That would show up as slowth, somewhere, or heat, or something. So you'd want to get some goodness out of that - it looked better,etc.

People are different. Some see like hawks, others with less resolution. Some people will have trouble seeing the difference between 720p and 1080p, at distance, whereas others will see a marked difference. I'm on the 720p is OK end of that spectrum.

I have noticed, that when lying in bed, that my tablet at viewing distance subtends about the same angle as the HD TV on the other side of the room. So, aside from focusing my eyes, 720p is pretty good for both.

As for the new Tegra3 tablets coming out, I'd rather have the power show up as frame rate, or image manipulation speed, or extra application processor cycles. I'm quite happy with the design center of the TFP, screenwise.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] The Janitor Mop:
Goodness, this discussion again.

1) Let's hold off on making comments with an air of certitude about hypothetical products we know close to nothing about. OP, if you really want to know what the impact of a higher resolution screen is on the performance and battery life of a tablet, I suggest you wait until those products actually come into existence and feedback (from reviewers and consumers) on them actually exists. Sitting here making comments about how higher resolution is for sure going to kill performance and battery life is ridiculous. Tablet makers are not idiotic, of course they are going to bump up other specs in order to compensate; it's how tech always works. Companies always come out with some crazy spec and people wonder "can they really pull that off?" and a lot of times they do. It's the nature of tech. What would be appropriate to say is "I'm concerned about the challenge that higher resolution will present to battery life and performance". That's reasonable. It's not reasonable to instantly dismiss the challenge as impossible. I would suggest that these tablet makers are going to at least be aware of the challenges and try to meet them. See? I'm not going to guarantee one way or another what the ultimate outcome will be.

2) If 2nd gen tablets in 2012 manage to incorporate higher resolution without impacting battery life or performance, could that at all be a bad thing? The negativity in this thread about higher resolution is centered on the hypothetical side effects. But by itself, could higher resolution be possibly perceived as a bad thing? I'm not talking about the degree by which it is an improvement over what we already have (as everyone has their own opinion on how much of a difference a higher resolution display will have), I'm talking about purely if it's "better" or "worse". As to that, I don't understand how any logical person could say that higher resolution (in and of itself) is worse than what we currently have.

Cliffs notes: if you want to see how these high res tablets are going to be, wait till you can actually see what they actually will be. Sounds lame? Yeah. But true. Hypothetical discussions are fun and all, but they aren't anything you should make your decisions on. I would have gotten the Prime if I based my decision on the hypothetical discussions that I got myself all hyped over. For me, the real world Prime did not live up to the hypothetical Prime I really wanted. What it all boils down to is what the real world end product is, and that's what you should make a decision on.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
You're right. But it will going to be a huge impact for the processor, it is more then 2 times as much pixels the CPU/GPU will need to handle. It is just as with Windows; my old PC worked fine in games on a 1280x1024 screen but with 1920x1080 (around 1.7 as much pixels) it just couldn't handle it anymore. So i'm not sure if the Tegra3 is going to handle that, the GPU in it just isn't really good. It does its job at 1280x800, but I'm really concerned how that is gonna be on 1920x1200; are they gonna scale games back? If that would be the case they could just as well use the cheaper 1280x800 panel and let $100 off the price.

However this is all speculation I think it is gonna be this way.

Also I wouldn't want to have either a Acer or Lenovo product; Acer's build quality and support is just very bad (23,3% of their portable products are defect within 2 years in Europe) and for Lenovo I'm really wondering if they even going to give their tablets updates, also the price will be pretty high I guess, also pretty high defect rate as seen below.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mithent:
Higher resolution tablets would be nice, provided that they have the hardware to push that many pixels without slowdown. I'm all for high DPI, and I'm disappointed that we rarely get high densities on desktop monitors.

However, I don't think that a display resolution higher than 1280x800 would really add to the use-case of a tablet. It's not going to allow you to do things you couldn't otherwise do, and the DPI is already acceptably high to display plenty of information on screen. Higher DPI would allow for crisper graphics and text, which I'd definitely like to have, but it's already good enough that it becomes a "nice to have" feature rather than any kind of "must-have" for me.

I don't imagine that these putative high-DPI tablets will have a keyboard dock accessory like the Prime, and, for me, that's a "must-have".
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>If I'm not mistaken, these high-res panels are also in short supply. If that's true, then their price will be much higher.

As yields get better over time, price will come down. So cost is a function of time. You're probably right for the initial crop, although I'd quibble over the "much higher" amount. Pricing constraints exist.

Much depends on pricing of 2012 iPad(s), since iPad pricing is literally the reference price for the rest of the tablet market. Apple didn't raise pricing for the iPhone 4 or iPod Touch when those got the Retina Display. From this, the guess is that the iPad $500 benchmark price will still apply for base 2012 model.

If the iPad3 has 2048x1536 res and is $500, Android vendors can't sell their tablets for lower res (1920x1200) at a higher price.

Low-end 10" Android tablets in 2012 will be around USD$350. That's the current price for the Xoom Family (down-specced Xoom), and announced price for the Acer A200 (down-specced A500). Then, there's enough room ($150) to shoehorn in a hi-res display, even if you have to cut corners elsewhere.

That said, Acer & others probably don't care much about the Android tablet market, given its lackluster market reception thus far. PC vendors--Acers/Asus/Dell/HP/et al--will be concentrating on Win8 tablets, since that has a huge existing userbase. Secondly, Win8 tabs aren't as constrained by iPad pricing, as they can do more, eg content creation.

>$499 is the max I want to spend on a tablet by itself

Yes, $500 has become the reference price for most consumers. That comes from the iPad pricing. I'd limit this mindset to "content-consumption" tablets, ie iOS and Android currently.

>Prime's screen is totally perfect

A widget is "perfect" until a better/faster widget comes along. As Jobs has succinctly stated, consumers don't know what they want until they see it.

>You need a better GPU

Teg3 can already run 1080p movies, which place a much higher demand on system resources than pushing around pixels on a UI. If the OS is sluggish, then it's an OS problem, which is the case for HC.

>You have heaver battery drain due to more pixels

This may be true. From the Russian rumor, the Acer A700 has a 10Ah battery, whereas the Prime's battery is 7.4V, 3.38Ah. I'm assuming the voltage for the Acer is 3.7V. Then, the A700 has a 37Wh vs the Prime's 25Wh batt, or roughly 50% more capacity.

>Notice most 1080p laptops aren't smaller than 15"

Tablets are held closer to your eyes, hence they can use higher res. Tablets are also used as e-readers; higher res = sharper text = less eye fatigue.

>To me its about app compatibility.

Android is already awashed with many different screen res. That's why the big emphasis in ICS for res-independent apps.

>The negativity in this thread about higher resolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] The Janitor Mop:
You're fine to say you're afraid it might be that way. It's the people saying with absolute certainty that it will be that way that are out of line.

Personally, I'm not too excited for this Acer or Lenovo tablet either. If they're rocking the same GPU the Prime has, I'm probably not buying either. My ultimate interest is in what Samsung comes out with in 2012. I just like their approach. And I have a feeling they are going to come out with killer specs based on early information. If anyone can pull off higher resolution (and the rumored resolution is VERY high), I think it would be a company with the size of Samsung. And as I said before, I'm going to wait to see how it actually performs before I judge it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tbns:
Of course I would want a higher resolution screen, provided the tablet still performs decently. I mean... who wouldn't?

I think a lot of this discussion centers around people trying to justify their current Prime purchase, instead of waiting for the next greatest thing. The tablets that come out next year will probably be better than the Prime, in many aspects. Including beautiful high resolution screens where no pixel is discernable. Of course I would love one. But my Prime is suiting me well right now, and I don't *need* a higher resolution screen. And I don't want to play the waiting game for another tablet, because I needed one right now. That's that.

Guess we'll see!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
To see no pixel at 10.1" the average person would need far more then 1920x1200. This "only" gives a DPI of 224.17. 1280x800 gives 149.45. The iPad 1 and 2 have 131.96. (The higher the better). A average person can't see the pixels at a DPI of 320.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
I love stats and don't consider myself either a fan or a detractor of Asus. But what you posted isn't relevant unless we're having a conversation specifically about laptops. Desktops, mobos, and tablet results could be very different and are most likely produced in different facilities. Also, there's no timeframe on your chart and one or two bad product launches (Asus' or others) can skew the results tremendously. Nice chart though. ;)

---------- Post added at 02:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:07 PM ----------

It's human nature to defend your choices and purchases. Right up until the time you don't. ;)
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alphaschnitz:
Hi All!

Has anyone ported/incorporated support for the BlueTooth MAP profile into any stable Captivate ROMs?

I see that the Galaxy SII Skyrocket supports MAP (according to their marketing literature), but I'd hate to have to spend the $$$ to upgrade my hardware for a function that seems (to me) like it's purely a software function.

There's nothing wrong with my 1.25 year old Captivate, other than a slight lust for tighter integration with the Ford Sync system in my 2011 Taurus.

Thanks!

Sean
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] modum:
RemICS does. 4.0.4 version.
[General Questions and Answers] Spike-NL:
Hello,

After carefully watching the video when registering, and looking around on the forum for answers, i couldn't find any.

I'm having a little problem with my NexusHD2 ICS o.s. I can't seem to figure out how to setup the phone, so that it will store my apps on my SD-card. I always have not enough space for all my apps on my internal storage.

I tried allot of options and solutions, but all won't work. Will it be in the next béta version? Or do i have to wait for a proper solution to this problem. I think this is one of the most important things to have. Storage room. I hope someone can give me a good answer with a nice, step-1, step-2 solution.

If it's out there waiting to be released, i'll be patient.

Thank you,
[General Questions and Answers] baiocco88:
anche io ho lo steso problema...help!!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] UndeadCircus:
Hello everyone,

I'm going to share some DockPacks that I created recently with the XDA members for free. You can find these in the market for $0.99 each so if any of you truly enjoy them and would like to donate, please feel free to purchase them from the market. :)

I'm not sure if these work with anything other than ADW Launcher EX. I only have EX and that's the only one I've tested it on, and I'm not sure if the regular version gives you the choice to change your dock image or not. But I know these work perfectly fine in ADW EX.

ADW DockPack (1.0)

Market QR:

ADW DockPack NFL (1.0)

*NOTE: With the NFL DockPack, it's recommended that you change the icon for your launcher button if your launcher button is directly in the middle. The team logo is a little large, so if you have an over-sized launcher icon, it might get in the way of your team logo.

Market QR:

How do I use these?

For anyone that doesn't know how to use an ADW DockPack, follow these simple instructions after you've installed the APK files:

- Go to ADWSettings

- Click "Themes Preferences"

- Under "Main Dock" click "Choose..."

- Click "Custom..."

- Click "DockPack" or "DockPack (NFL)" depending on which you installed

- Choose from one of the 40 docks in the list

I'm planning to release more DockPacks once I get my new laptop setup and running. Again, if you find these useful, please feel free to purchase them from the Market; they're only $0.99 each. :)

If ANYONE has any recommendations or suggestions on future DockPacks, please let me know. I really don't mind making them. I'll always include my DockPacks here on XDA for free with the ability to purchase them from the Market if you enjoy them.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] scottspa74:
Cool stuff, man. Thanks mass for sharing! ;)
[General Questions and Answers] shanghei:
Without making this too complicated,

I wanted to port my number from one ATT account to another but the only way I can do this if I port to another carrier and then back to the other ATT account.

So I called Tmobile and asked if I could port my ATT number to a prepaid tmobile sim, and they said yes.

Prepaid sim is like 8 bucks so I figure that isnt too bad of a fee. So once I port my ATT number to tmobile prepaid sim, does anyone see any problems of then porting to my other att account?

I would hate to screw anything up here dont wanna lose my number.

Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] necrotaur:
Hi all,

Long time lurker, now posting for the first time. I have searched and not found anything regarding this. It seems our skyrocket does not have the allow bluetooth to bypass lock screen.

I have a rooted phone and was wondering if there was a command line way to toggle this setting.

Thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TripleAgent:
I couldn't find an at all recent thread, so I'm asking. I have an opportunity to get a really cheap E4GT, but I'm hesitant. I didn't upgrade Day 1 because I don't want to give up my keyboard. Any downsides beside losing the HW KB? We finally have GB:rolleyes:, but I guess this may eventually (again, :rolleyes:) get ICS, and this deal is so cheap, I probably gain on resale value. Advice please? TIA.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reptar832:
Yes yes yes. If so unsure about hw keyboard, why not use the touch screen on the epic for a while...i love Swype for this reason....my wife has the epic, and I have the e4gt...this phone kills it...do it...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tenaciousj:
Coming from an OG Epic myself, yes for sure.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
I too came from the OG Epic, and upgraded to the Epic 4G Touch on launch day, and it is a very worthwhile purchase. This phone is a beast and for once I am perfectly happy with the phone I have. Highly recommended from me if the keyboard is not a must.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lballer69:
Evo/epic/nexus s 4g/epic touch you won't regret it.

BEAST MODE.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TripleAgent:
Thanks for the advice, I pulled the trigger, should have it by Wednesday.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] branded:
Hello,

I am curious how easy it is to compile a linux based app for various versions of android.

Is this possible?

I am interested in compiling the reaver tool.

Thanks,

Matt
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] licht77:
As noone is answering you, i'll give it a try :)

I am not very familiar in this topic and only able to do get very simple apps compiled and running... so after having a quick glimpse on this one ( http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81219 ) i think that the problem is not the reaver code but a) the promiscuous mode wireless driver (device depending) and b) the other dependencies like aircrack.

I would say as long as you dont find an aircrack port its senseless to ask for a reaver-droid :)

(Devs please correct me)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hammerlock13:
looks like you will just have to port aircrack too.. however, I do feel as if this would be a wonderfully malicous tool... I also think that it would also be best used on a computer as I would assume this software would eat your battery alive..

So.. 2 things to consider.. First, reaver on a cellphone is like giving rufees to satan for distribution and trusting him not to rape anyone.. second... how well would your hardware hold up to the several hour attack, and how much longer would it take on a cellphone compared to an actual computer?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] netbus:
any news on this?

i'm also interested
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shootomanUK:
+1
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OctoberNexus:
I want this
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cakegetter:
I need this so bad. anybody know if there is a app like this available?