yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S General] obsanity:
Good question. I word like to get an answer for that. I think it may have something to do with keys or signature on gaps. Technically all the gaps we use aren't "legal" per Google's TOS.
[HTC EVO 3D] mike.r.olson:
Yeah, I'm about to get flamed, sorry about it. After the treatment shown recently to developers and other established and respected XDA members, as well as the closing of GOOD threads, anybody else on board for a 100 post requirement for privileges to post or reply in all development forums?
[HTC EVO 3D] ummduh:
NO. I've already had reason to post in the Dev forum, and have not been able to due to not enough posts. IMO, it's pretty dumb.

I have no idea what you're talking about re: the treatment stated, however.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
It'll just cause more bs in the general and less feedback to devs for their work too. Most of threads that get locked in there are not because of ppl that have low post counts. It's typically the ones with the higher counts that will do it...
[HTC EVO 3D] dannyboyex:
That would lead to 10x more useless posts in the other sections (general, themes, etc.)

Sent from my PG86100
[HTC EVO 3D] megabiteg:
People... Think....

For one second get in the shoes of a moderator. In a site like xda which has far drifted from its original intents, everyone needs to understand that with the level of access people have today to technology and the lack of respect and good maners, it makes it very complicated to manage a site like this.

The job the moderators has is a tough one because they have to be the un-friendly people most of the time.

I don't personally agree with the 100 post for dev forum, but I do understand where they are coming from with this. Think for a second the amount of low level educated people and trolls that traffic this place? People that just like to follow their impulse and not the rules?

It's easy for us whom follow the rules to see it as a pain, but consider what had to happen in order for it to get to this place?

Let's give credits to the mods, their trying to maintain order in a city of chaos.
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
The 10 post thing is good for the noobs. So they don't put a question in the wrong section like a question about cases in the Dev section.

Nothing is wrong with it takes some time and reading but folks get the hang of it soon.:D
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
I wouldn't mind the 100 post thing, but not for ANY post, just specifically for creating new threads in that section.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Id say maybe 50 bc there always those new devs that come in with low post counts that turn up some good things....
[HTC EVO 3D] megabiteg:
+1
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] crtjstr:
So, this is slightly off topic, but I'll ask anyway. I'm debating going through the process of backing up my data (many gigs worth) and wiping my computer back to Linux. Thoughts?

Sent from above and beyond
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tehgyb:
...depends what you do/want to do.

Android related, if you want to kernel dev, Linux. For theming or plain dev work I prefer 7 tbh
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
You'll have an easier time working with Linux in general on Android. Libusb makes phone detection easier for flashing Heimdall roms and using the shell in general. SSH, SCP and ADB will feel more at home than using Win alternatives.

I'm on Windows 7 because of the vast amount of programs I use that I've found no suitable replacement for, but I run two different versions of Ubuntu and a version of Mint on Virtualbox.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] crtjstr:
That's the boat I've been in. I just hate working in vm. Everything feels crippled and somehow wrong. Rather like windows as a whole. Heh.

Sent from above and beyond
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tehgyb:
You could always make a dual boot machine... Mine was until I broke it lol hence i'm computerless at the moment :(
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] crtjstr:
that's the plan. Already started like 12 hours if backups to be able to repartition hard disks.

Sent from above and beyond
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
​

Welcome to SenselessROM - For those who want the look of stock AOSP / Gingerbread but with functionality of Sense! All Apps are up to date as of 1/11/2012.

The ROM has been stripped of most of the Sense and associated files but the Dialer and some other features remain due to the tight integration the RUU has with Sense.

ROM is de-odexed and based on official Verizon RUU 1.02.605.6.

Changes in version 1.1 - 1/11/2012

Tuned: Performance and Battery life

Added: Extended Quick Settings

Added: Social Network Framework for Sense on SD Card

Added: VZW Boot Animation

Updated: All Apps

Known Issue:

When an incoming call is present you will need to unlock the screen to see who is calling.

Battery charging animation is not correct.

Please hit the Thanks button if you like this offering. Hit the Donate button if you really like it :)​
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Prerequisites:

Instructions to flash:

Flashing recovery.img and or boot.img:

Change Log

Social Networking Framework
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Reserved again!
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Going to download now!

EDIT: Flashing now

EDIT 2: Up and running... good so far... was surprised at the removal of the sense lock screen, but I didn't use it much.

I was running Ziggy's kernel. These ROMs do not flash the kernel, so I guess I need to reflash the extra files for the kernel again. BAH the complications of unlocked. LOL Will report back with an update.
[HTC Rezound] nightwings:
Good to see a de-sensed rom. will give it a try

:D
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Ok doing great. Fixed the WiFi error and all is golden.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
What WiFi error?
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
The one caused by Ziggy's kernel if you do not flash an updated ramdisk info into the /system partition.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Oh, I thought you meant there was some sort of native issue with WiFi... I was like... WTF is he talking about?
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Of course... Its great!

You changed out the boot animation. (thank goodness... unless I'm crazy/er)

Miss the percentage battery icon though. Baby steps I guess.

Scott's ROMs are the best ROMs

(Though I may be unfaithful when CM9/ICS hits)

Even though I haven't tried any of the others available for us yet. :D
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Do you even see a boot anim? I thought I removed it all together?
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Just a plain HTC screen the whole time. It may make it hard to know when we get a boot hang though.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Yeah... I was trying to trim it down as far as I could and the customize folder was like near 40 megs so I just chucked the whole thing, lol
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
HAHA...

Yeah a nice simple boot animation is fine. That stock one was tacky awful.
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
My fiance is a graphics designer... that means she is picky about visuals. :rolleyes:

She isn't happy with any themes in the market for the launchers, nor themes she has found for the ROMs.

Long story short, she wants to help build a theme. Possibly for ROMs and GO launcher/ADW.

I really don't know enough to help her out, and of course she really doesn't know how to theme. So she is willing to work with anyone that has experience in getting a theme put together.

Basically she needs to know what elements are themeable, dimensions needed for the images, proper file formats, and any other pertinent info. She can do all the visuals, she just needs help packaging them into a working flashable theme.

Anybody interested hit me up. Goes for you too Scott... Maybe we can hook you up with an awesome custom theme for all of your ROMs. ;)

Side note: I managed to get an image file (the ROM logo) to act as a hyperlink to this thread. Its just so... big... think you could make a smaller version? Something about a couple inches long.

Side note 2: She is already online looking up info and taking notes. Help is always good, and the actual turning it all into a working theme is still something that needs another's help.
[HTC Rezound] bigroof:
This is running awesome on stock kernel. Nice work Scott!
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Ummm... we need to talk! For me the hard part are the graphics. The easy part is the packaging, lol

Does she have anything in mind? Hit me up in PM!

Actually I have an official set of Logo's on my website. You can use the ones here: http://www.scottsroms.com/content.php?12-Logos!

You may also resize them to a size of your choosing and upload them into your sig block.

Great, glad to hear!

-Scott
[HTC Rezound] smartbusiness2003:
This will be great! I really hope your wife can get with Scott and make this happen! I would love to have some really nice themes for Go Launcher and CleanRom (Sense and Senseless).
[HTC Rezound] brando56894:
Ill give this a try when you get the unlocking bug fixed. For now, I froze all the Sense crap in RezRom and dont feel like setting everything up again.
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
PM sent your way

Heading to town atm... be back an a few hours.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Yes, indeed flash with stock boot.img then you can change kernels if you want.
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Hmm looks like I misplaced the stock kernel :x. Would it be okay to use the unsecured stock that team bamf uploaded? Thanks!
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
He includes the boot.img in the ROM just extract it, he also has it in his cleanflash tool. But yeah the unsecured stock works, I am using it now.

I was using a custom kernel but had issues with it. Phone got hotter with use and random lockups. They are still narrowing down safe undervolt values I think, the undervolting may have been my issue... The fiancée's phone did it as well.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Use my boot.img with my ROM. Using anything else you will not get the performance and tuning that I put into this.

After you install my boot.img you can use any kernel you want. Although I highly recommend that you just use the stock kernel.

-Scott
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Alright thanks guys!
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
I guess I will go back to the stock Kernel when 1.2 comes out. I hate resetting everything up, lol. This ROM actually made me spring for TiBu Pro. Since you recommended data wipes. I was cheap before, but now it is money well spent!
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Did you actually do tweaks to the kernel, or is it still bone stock? The bamf unsecured is bone stock but for allowing adb to mount it as root automatically.

I understood it as the boot.img is the kernel, and only that. Is it more than that? I know that the ramdisk is different for each ROM, is that in the boot.img as well? I know there are modules and other files that need to be inserted into a ROM, I was thinking the ramdisk was amongst those files.

First time messing with kernels on a s=on device so there was little cause to learn the particulars of how the boot.img works. I know the what's just not the how's as it were.

If the ramdisk is in the boot.img then we need the zimage to create a new kernel for this ROM, and I didn't see any of bamf's kernel downloads available as a zimage. Maybe I just missed the link.

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I haven't wiped at all and I am running fine.

I would say try out a no wipe flash and see how it goes. You can always wipe and do app backups if you have an issue.

When I flash I wipe cache, dalvik, and system. By leaving data intact all my apps and settings stay. I just remember that any issues I have could be caused by not full wiping and start there with troubleshooting.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Mine is bone stock kernel. What you just said means he rooted the kernel. Yes, mine is rooted too, lol

Also, his is not bone stock. Its got other changes to the governing system that will specifically conflict with the governing that I have set up on the ROM. It also allows for OC.

The kernel is zImage. Its stored in the boot.img along with the ramdisk. Think of it like this;

boot.img is a container for the kernel and ramdisk. Just a vessel to store those two key bits of data (if you will).

His kernel is stored within the boot.img. Its not a separate zImage and modules (which you may be used to). Its boot.img and modules. The way he packaged it is more "proper" for S-ON devices. Makes it much easier for people to flash. I like the way he did it actually.

I hope that demystifies... If not feel free to ask any questions...

-Scott
[HTC Rezound] androidaddict23:
Any one getting a lot android process force close, and also youtube?
[HTC Rezound] kappen:
Any idea if or when the having to unlock the phone to see who is calling will be fixed? I'm just curious if its a hard bug to fix or you just havn't gotten to it yet.
[HTC Rezound] mf9120:
so confused, if i had your old rom (senseless 1.0) flashed Z's kernal, now i want yours, what do i do???
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Maybe the kernel I am using isn't a bamf version... It is a stock kernel as I have no overclocking, I know the description said it was pure stock but for the rooted bit.

So I should reflash your boot.img? If the ramdisk truly is different I would think I should. Just extract it out of the ROM and flash.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
No. If you are getting that...

Flash boot.img

Full wipe

Reflash

No restores from back up

Its a very hard bug to fix. So hard I dont even know where to begin.

Flash boot.img
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Reading up on the android use of ramdisk... In addition to the init files it also has some configuration files... So yeah I might need that. :p
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
I have ADW EX and Go EX, in Go if you use the Go Locker it works fine.

Is that a feature of AmonRa (wipe system w/o data)? I use CWR, so I don't see that option. I have tried installing without a wipe (wipe Cache/Dalvik only), but I believe it is an issue I am having installing DSB kernel each time, so I do a full wipe.
[HTC Rezound] stanglifemike:
Scott off-topic here, but did you leave the Evo 3D for the Rezound?
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
yeah I am using AmonRa. There is a menu that allows you to wipe individual areas.

CWM had that as well on my MT4G, I believe it was in the mounts menu.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
So know do you believe me when I say run my boot.img because its specific to my ROM :p

Yep, best move ever!
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Didn't realize there was specific config files as well. Thought it was basic init stuff.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
No, thats not what I meant. I dont think anyone has any differnt config files but init is basically config.
[HTC Rezound] killahrey:
Great rom scrosler.

Got any plans on making it actually aosp? I'd love some aosp anything right now. I'd even take cupcake right now.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
I dont work with AOSP.

Look here for AOSP: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
I was thinking the init just handled mounting the /system... so there is more to them then.

On a completely unrelated note...

You guys ever read THIS SiFi short story? I first read it when I was 10... found it again, good story, the whole premise that creates the story's situation breaks down if you analyze it but the overall message of the story is good.

Yeah not android related, just want to spread a good story.

Flashing your boot.img so I can get the full effects of your tweaks.
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Trying to get custom boot animations to work. So far a no go when replacing the folder manually in root explorer. Did everything I can think of. Edited the desc file, fixed permissions, put the files into the VZW folder rezipped hoping to at least get it to play after the beats animation... even extracted the whole ROM and replaced the folder rezipped, reflashed... nothing.

Noticed the file names are just numbers but the default boot animation files are named and numbered, not sure if that would be an issue, don't think it would.

Also the boot animation images are 720*1080 not 720*1280 like the default, could that be an issue?

Might need to try more than one of the available boot animations. Bah... I will get it figured out eventually... maybe.

For now its bed time, I have an interview tomorrow afternoon for a new job. One that is direct and not contract based. (so sick of contracting, but aviation companies want contractors because its easier to let them go during slumps in work load) Had to drive all the way to Mississippi. :eek:
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
Check the thread over in the themes section. These bootanimations are tricky and a pain in the butt. I finally got around to flashing Senseless 1.1 and I'm going to jump on this because I hate the stock boot animations anyway. It's nice to finally have time to work on my own phone for a bit.

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AOSP is a pain in the arse. Especially with the way that HTC does their devices. Compiling all that source and farming drivers from the HTC source, then digging out the HTC garbage...ugh... I wouldn't want to do that either.
[HTC Rezound] Piercing Heavens:
Does this have more free ram compared to CleanRom?

I'm just going for the lightest rom possible.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
About 120 megs more free.
[HTC Rezound] Piercing Heavens:
Thanks for the quick reply. Ill be trying this out this weekend then. Still need to unlock my phone.

Off topic but have people had any issue trying to do a warranty on an unlocked phone? I havent seen any mention of people having issues of that.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Consider posting this question in the General Forums as you will get more answers.

Thank you,

-Scott
[HTC Rezound] SHIDOOBY:
Does this come with all the features as cleanrom 1.5 (just de-sensed as much as possible.) ?

Also, has anyone ran ziggys or dsb with the new release?
[HTC Rezound] paulhoop:
I tried it with dsp kernel but had wifi issues, fiddled around a bit with no luck. But I am not an expert. Went back to stock, worked fine.
[HTC Rezound] SHIDOOBY:
Is it debloated with all the features from clean rom?
[HTC Rezound] paulhoop:
I haven't done a side by side comparison of SenselessROM and the CleanROM. You should probably look at Scott's posts regarding each.

But if you mean debloated of unappreciated apps, yes most seem to be gone.

I don't use sense so am able to free up memory with this one.

The 1.1 version has been running fine for me. quick, no freezes, no FC's, battery life seems reasonable for what I do. :D
[HTC Rezound] dyetheskin:
i'm not a noob but this device is definitely different when flashing kernels compared to the droid inc. has anyone got this working with the incredikernel? If I wipe all,flash rom,then kernel into hboot,it doesn't boot.only way I got the rom to boot was not using hboot but the tool to flash the boot.img that came in the rom's zip. any help is greatly appreciated since methods are different with this device.

from my rezound using tapatalk
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
What I do is flash the rom, then boot up, then boot back into recovery, install kernel. That way too I can make a NAND with the working ROM on stock Kernel.
[HTC Rezound] dyetheskin:
Do you flash the boot.img from the incredikernel or do u flash the zip in hboot once the zip is created?
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
I use DSB's kernel which I just flash in hboot.
[HTC Rezound] dyetheskin:
Dsb is what i'm using as well but I wanted to try incredikernel
[HTC Rezound] jmichaels1982:
UOT

Did any one successfully do a uot with this rom ?

P.s. love the "bug" where the caller is not shown until i unlock. Its like my privacy dreams all come true !
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
You two would be better off using the stock boot.img that I put in with the stock kernel. Trust me on this one. I tested the dsb kernel and it dropped performance by 10 to 15% in benchmarks and it induced lag in places there shoudl eb no lag. Tested at 1.5GHZ. I also asked other devs to test the kernel on differnt ROMS and they also concluded exactly what I found.

Stick with the stock kernel in my boot.img and you will have a very finely tuned ROM. The tweaks I did were weeks in the making. Swapping out the kernel / boot.img will set you back in performance.

From my exp the UOT does not work well with CDMA devices. It leaves a lot of icons not changed properly. Its more designed for GSM. I could change the batter and some other aspects but thats about it. Overscroll too!
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
I would suspect you need to reflash the ROM, then flash the Kernel. I haven't tried Incredikernel.

Yea, like I said before, my intent is on the next update to use the stock Kernel. I just didn't want to go through the whole process right now.
[HTC Rezound] dyetheskin:
I still think I get better response with the dsb kernel oc'd at 1.8 with the sa2 governor vs the stock at 1.5 whether on interactive or on-demand
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
I underclock and undervolt. I still see awesome performance. I am not a gamer though.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
I hope you dont take this the wrong way as I am not trying to start a pissing contest but....

I benched dsb and the stock kernel, the way I have it set up on boot, and my set up fared best. Other devs in this forum did similar benchmarks with my tweaks (I share) and concluded the same thing I did. Stock kernel tuned is faster than DSB kernel the way it comes (at ghz to ghz). They also removed dsb from there ROM and went with my tuned stock config.

Im not saying you are not getting better results. You may very well be... But bench them and see what you get. Flash my ROM bone stock with boot image and make no changes to the set up. Download benchmark of choice (I use antutu and cfbench) and compare them at the same clock speed with dsb kernel configured to your liking. I would be very interested in what you are seeing. Then clock dsb to 1.8 (which was not even close to stable on my phone, best i could do was about 1.6'ish stable). and post results. I cant because my phone wont run stable with his kernel that high.
[HTC Rezound] dyetheskin:
I'll compare the 2 since it might just be my particular device. Once I got the scores to compare I'll start doing some lag testing to see which is more responsive. I'm not bashing just merely stating I see a difference between the 2 and I always prefer a sa governor
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Were you just getting bootloops or random lock ups? I think maybe the kernels are a bit to agressively undervolted for the majority of our devices. I think I will try increasing the voltages. I have gotten over 7k+ pts on Antutu with incredi kernel. I am just going to play around with all the kernels.. Imo I'd rather have better battery life/stability, device is fast enough @ stock speeds.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
I got a random reboot and a random hard lock on dsb. I honestly have not had time to mess with any other.

Could be voltage, I dont know?
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
I haven't looked at the stock kernels voltages yet and compared them w/ dsb/ziggy/incredi. I am trying incredi kernel on your rom at the moment and will see how it fares at maximum speeds. I most likely will go back to the stock after I'm done messing around. Set CPU seems to do the best for me, sadly it doesn't have the option to change I/O scheduler. Although I really doubt that makes that much of a difference anyways :D.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Im flashing incredikernel now.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Ok, so far I like it... Testing at 1.78. Thats as far as I could push my 3D. Lets see what this thing can do.

at stock freq it scores on par with stock kernel. He also did not add anything that conflicts with my tweaks so they kinda fit together!

I'll post an Antutu soon.
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
What cpu control app are you using? The main thing I like about this kernel is the fact that the GPU is overclocked.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
Antutu CPU master. I cant clock 1.8x but I can clock 1.72 and it seems stable....Bench is not as high as I expected. But will run it a few times.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
I just hit 6500 on Antutu with perf gov @1.72. Thats respectable.

What gov do you recommend?