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[Galaxy S II General] augustofretes:
Most people don't tell the difference between TW and TW Launcher. Many hate TWL because it's "ugly" (I think it looks waaaay better than stock GB), and it isn't as customizable as others (but they all forget how smooth TWL is). I don't think they actually hate TW (perhaps they hate the Music app).

The big hate avalanche is because they want ICS' launcher.
[Galaxy S II General] serialtoon:
No one would hate touchwiz if we had an option to enable "Vanilla" mode. Being that the new version of Android is called Ice Cream Sandwich, they should have a setting called "Vanilla Mode" where it disables all vendor modifications. Just saying.
[Galaxy S II General] shadowskorch:
You can customize list mode, alphabetical, or customizable by pressing menu in the all drawer can't you?
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
You had to google to mount internal storage? Scroll 700 contacts to add, what are you? Why couldn't you just start typing contacts name or phone number???

And for others that mentioned there's video alternatives to samsung. There isn't, not one, all crap.

Those that moan for vanilla mode would be the first ones that would jump ship and installed cm or miui for lack of features. Beauty of ics??? Launcher??? Got bored with it in a day and wanted to theme it and installed third party launcher after couple of hours.

It's all bs. Let's be honest the only real reason people dislike tw is because it makes it more difficult for cm team to make propper 100% working and stable versions (impossible to date), it diverges from aosp too much. Vanilla my ass.

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[Galaxy S II General] nathsgames:
List mode only.... and that's just plain awful...
[Galaxy S II General] josephislee:
I'm guessing you're running stock 2.3.4? Almost all custom roms and recent stock roms have it..

edit: I didn't see your sig from my XDA app.. hmm, that's odd.. Both Exynos Extreme and Simple and Clean have had it.. From what I remember Criskelo did as well?
[Galaxy S II General] nathsgames:
To be honest I just straight away go for a different launcher but I do try Touchwiz from time to time and have never noticed it...

At the moment I am using ICS Launcher and love it to bits!

But have the stock I9100XXKP8 firmware coming down now anyway, can't wait!!
[Galaxy S II General] jr866gooner:
Without fail i would always use either launcher pro or adw. That was before i got an s2 with Touchwiz. It is fantastic,its fast,doesn't cut off half my wallpaper and has many many functions other launchers lack. Thats not to say other launchers are crap coz they aren't! They are good in their own way and have individual benefits.

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[Galaxy S II General] :
I don't dislike TW, I miss some functionality of it. The problem is when I go back to a TW ROM to see what I'm missing, I miss much, MUCH more about the alternatives to TW.

There are a few scattered UI elements that I miss, but again there's much more for me to miss in non-TW ROMs. The ONLY UI element I really miss is the notification toggle size.

Also, at the end of the day, I can't leave anything in my life stock and TW and TW based ROMs are too close to stock for

me

. I find part of the fun in owning something is modifying it, usually making it better, occasionally making it worse, sometimes breaking it, etc...

And don't be so jaded, the % of people whom hate TW because it's cool probably don't even register a full %.
[Galaxy S II General] robt772000:
Just use an AOSP theme on a custom TW rom like ICS theme on CheckROM. Best of both worlds.
[Galaxy S II General] phishfi:
First off, flaming people for not liking something is a bit... dumb.

However, I'll explain my gripes with Samsung:

1. Forcing a custom UI into an OS means that updates are going to take much longer to be released.

2. The theme takes away from the standard AOSP look that Android comes with, and without rooting it there's no way to remove the TW look.

3. Posting about a difference of opinions does nothing but increase your post counter... just saying.
[Galaxy S II General] vicelord.leo:
Well for ICS, Samsung should update TW as such it resembles from ICS look and there looks to be difference betweem ICS & GB. At now stage, TW on ICS really looks very bad. I like the features and looks on GB and also like the features on ICS but just the looks aren't satisfactory.
[Galaxy S II General] :
Not even remotely the same thing. More to AOSP than a theme.
[Galaxy S II General] Gorjess:
People hates tw because they've seen a much better ics aosp interface..

That's almost 6 months of gap between samsung's tw 4.0 and ics release, get over it..

tw 4.0 that samsung slapped to their leaked release really is a disappointment.. but hey, it's not the official release yet..

Maybe samsung would use tw 5.0 for their official ics build..

So the current options available:

For tw fans: wait for the release of tw 5.0 (theres a modified tw 4.5 for compliment)

For aosp fans: cm9 stable will be released soon

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[Galaxy S II General] ItsMyMama:
The only thing I will miss is how the toggles look. CM toggles dont look that appealing. Other functions can be found in other apps/AOSP.
[Galaxy S II General] nat510:
I only love "task manager built into long press"
[Galaxy S II General] skiflyer:
yeah i also rather like it but those screenshots i saw of ICS are like you get a new car and put the old car body over it.. an update would be great
[Galaxy S II General] :
Some of the stuff don't matter like camera ui to people... so long as the camera works its good.... also swype can be installed no matter what rom and so can other things... as you sed, but touch wiz I think is plain ugly... laggy and prefer the Aosp roms or miui. Notification bar settings is in cm7 and also miui... also the need to task manager is stupid as Gingerbread doesn't need it... and Samsung *again* have ruined ICS with their touchwiz and when my s2 updates to ics from Samsung... I'm going to put the cm9/ics aosp as it looks soooooo much nicer and its probs faster... also off topic... I could not believe the S2 had a 480x800pixel screen and only 217dpi and my other rubbish back up zte blade has 267dpi ( yes I know its a smaller screen ) but I thought Samsung would put a amazing screen in this phne. My Galaxy nexus has a amazing screen and I just wanted to know... what were Samsung thinking?
[Galaxy S II General] :
Apply the Samsung theme from theme Chooser.... then the toggles look the Same as tw
[Galaxy S II General] liljom:
Yes.

Yes.

Because I wanted to add around 50 contacts to an sms, and I have 700 google contacts, but only 130 have phone numbers. And the stock sms app doesn't filter the ones with phone number, but I have to go through all my contacs, most of them only with email address.

You connect an HTC to your PC, and it offers many options. You connect an android with aosp and you can pull down the notif menu, and mount it. But why the hell should I turn on debug to mount internal storage?!? Or why should I unplug my phone, go into Settings-Wireless-Mount-Mount and after hitting the button replug the phone?!? You might forget, that you had to turn on debug, but how the hell should I've found out, that that is the problem?

I like mxVideo. That can play many kind of videos.

TW 4.0 might be better, than AOSP 2.3. But I don't think it's better, than AOSP 4.0. And it's a lot worse than Sense.

It is my opinion. You can have your.

I don't hate TW, because nobody forces me to use it. I just run GingerMod from luca :) So I have the lightweight AOSP apps, and working HDMI and the cam app from Samsung.

All is say is, that there are better alternatives.
[Galaxy S II General] jim dinamita:
Well, in my case I like tw but been hating the fact it doen't allow me to pair my wiimote since I was on an Omnia2 with winmo. At least now i can choose
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
TouchWiz is Samsungs UI over stock Android, which brings it's own feature set, just like Sense does for HTC phones.

People need to distinguish the difference between TouchWiz and the TouchWiz launcher, yes the launcher is poor but I use Go Launcher as a replacement whilst keeping the best of TouchWiz.

I've tried and used CM7 plenty of times but always come back to a TW rom why?

- Native Email app, far better than AOSP, multi select, SEARCH, out of office settings and best of all FREE, don't need a 3rd party app that does the same things as I use this for exchange.

- The camera, compared to aosp TW version takes better pictures, sure it's processed but better.

- Which leads to the video camera, again good quality, aosp and miui (last time I tried) had problems playing back hi def files which work fine on TW due to codecs.

- SNS, only sns I don't use SocialHubs or any other hubs, SNS FB allows to sync my FB contacts to my phone contacts hence syncing birthdays, photos etc.

- Dialler, ICS has T9, GB didn't on aosp, T9 feature is great, and the swipe left/right combo on the TW is excellent.

- Task Manager, simple long press and done.

Those are my main reasons sticking to TW, and with JKay and the amount of themes available make the UI look better if rooted and deodexed so you can get away from the ugliness of the UI.

Other notable mentions of TW, Samsung Dive, free service to allow tracking of missing phones, good it comes free out the box for supported countries and is quite good.

Other than that, I don't use any of the other stock apps, only clock and calendar.

Music app not that great, the hubs are just not useful for me.

It's about choices, as android users we have them unlike our counterparts at iOS :D

And those expecting TW5, this will be for the SGS3 there's no requirement for Samsung to release this on our phones, if they don't don't b*tch about it. :)
[Galaxy S II General] soulicro:
Different strokes for different folks, i.e. "why dont you ppl like Christian Techno folk music? Christian Techno folk music is amazing"
[Galaxy S II General] Gnarfsan:
TouchWiz used to be cr*p. Now it's the sh*t. Text selection could still use some work though. It's much easier to place the market on wp7 and ios when not selecting a range.
[Galaxy S II General] Alvin Lai:
I think you're showing off only. Please use your head to think before post. Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S2 almost a year apart.
[Galaxy S II General] Entropy512:
Broken as hell - goes nuts and drains battery with many Exchange servers

SNS is a steaming turd, it's a notorious battery hog. It's one of the first things I nuke when debloating, and the first thing any ROM dev that wants to provide a ROM with good battery life removes. Oh yeah, and the standard Facebook app on the Market allows you to sync FB friends to your phone contacts too!

No Dive here - so no benefit and TW is just anothing thing that causes update delays.

Also, let's not forget the AP Mobile widget that Samsung includes, which is notorious for using MASSIVE amounts of data - it alone used up the 2GB monthly cap of many AT&T users.
[Galaxy S II General] samuel109:
Sony Ericsson's UI is the best android UI there is, plus they support developers.
[Galaxy S II General] nikzDHD:
I can get 2 working days out my phone with exchange and sns, I don't sync sns after the initial sync so yeah not a battery hog as you say.

The official Facebook app is crap, sns syncs higher quality photos and birthdays and such.

With heavy usage I charge nightly, so not an issue.

Each to their own.
[Galaxy S II General] max621:
I used htc sense and on the basis of that experience... TW far better and responsive...

But just wondering - can I install TW on HTC Wildfire...
[Galaxy S II General] Redsoldier:
this is so very true. The social hub sucks more than official FB app which is really saying something.
[Galaxy S II General] :
Sorry, just an awesome quote and my first laugh of 2012 :D
[Galaxy S II General] Mittaa:
Have tried different launchers but ended up with TW ... it's simple and looking good in my opinion :)

Of course had to get rid of bloatware and don't use any stock widgets BTW
[Galaxy S II General] MrAndroid12:
HTC sense is probably one of the best UIs for Android. Flash it and try
[Galaxy S II General] Entropy512:
Sense is even more bloated than Touchwiz.
[Galaxy S II General] The Archangel:
But which one has, more Ports to date then any other ui. Tw in my eyes reminds me of the iPhone,I hate Apple, why would I want a product that is a clone of a phone ui, that is horrible. Yes, sense maybe boated, but all the options you have with it,means you won't have to download x number of apps.

If I helped, give thanks, if you please.

........Death before dishonor........
[Galaxy S II General] Manya3084:
Err...sense is rubbish.

I've removed sense and replaced with cm7 many times and the users have never been happier.
[Galaxy S II General] bachot:
This touchwiz thing do you loose it if u install cfroot and sensation 2.0 rom?

Is touchwiz some kind of rom?
[Galaxy S II General] etschuy:
ICS > Touchwiz > Stock 2.3

Personally I don't hate Touchwiz, but I find custom ROMs like ICS Passion for my Vibrant faster. Also, with ICS coming, AOSP has even more of the features of its skinned bretheren.
[Galaxy S II General] RDDraco:
I like Touchwiz because of the fact u can make screencaptures. Easy for writing a manual for something. And longprossing for a task menu is great also if ur multi tasking

the only annoying thing i hate is the brightniss in the dropbar change considering i always have my screen as dark as possible
[Galaxy S II General] :
I would like touchwiz for a 2.2 rom... only becoz touchwiz makes the 2.2 Samsung phones faster...

2.3 rom's I would have CM7 as it has screencapture or I would have MiUi for its features...

4.0 I would have the AOSP one as. ICS looks beautiful how it is and doesn't need a UI over it... companies who do that are stupid bloating up a beautiful OS.

4.0 with TouchWiz looks the same if you have seen the leaked photos and unofficial builds
[Galaxy S II General] samuel109:
Sony Ericssons ui is formal, simple with tons of features
[Galaxy S II General] armanderli:
You gotta be kiddin'...SE never again after the fiasco with Xperia X10 getting stuck to android 1.6 until lately...

I hated myself so much for buying that piece of cr#p...

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[Galaxy S II General] samuel109:
The x10 went from 1.6, 2.1, 2.3.3,, and that's not the point,, SE UI is better than Samsung's
[Galaxy S II General] Plushackowy:
Samsung should make some changes in ui because its not looking like ics. Its the same like GB. Htc and SE remaked their Launchers and now they are adjusted to ICS. I hope that Samsung will do it too.

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[Galaxy S II General] manmad:
Have you even tryed looking in options?

You can filter contacts without phonenumber on stock app...
[Galaxy S II General] renatoalcantara:
try to use MOTOBLUR just one time, you will never complain about touchwiz
[Galaxy S II General] josephislee:
Exactly HAHAHA, motoblur..

Anyways.. if I had the HW acceleration of the TW browser on my CM9 gs2 it would be great , that's the one thing from TW I miss ..
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
Obviously not!

to get the sgs2 to act as a mass storage device u gotta enter settings > wireless and network > usb utilities > connect storage to PC and it should at as a mass storage device. (copy/paste job cause lol i googled it for confirmation that im not nuts). I have kies removed on my rom so not sure and too lazy to find out but from sgs i remember having option of Kies, mass storage and ask every time (where you would get your popup upon conmection). Might not be same on sgs2.

No need for USB debugging although that forces it as well.

Mx video does not use hardware acceleration and it's not first time seeing artifacts on normal video using that app.

Gingermod from luca is still tw!

There are no better official alternatives Imo. There are only better mods. And we get those either way whether on tw, sense, motocrap, se or aosp.

He seems under impression i responded to his post as some form of attack whereas I'm very agreeable fellow and my preferences are OK for me only and live and let live all that crap...It was merely response to obvious lack of knowledge regarding those features (sensoholic or something lol) I also have beef with some things with tw and often play devils advocate when things are not right.

Most recent being discussion when all the hoopla started with ics, downplaying people's expectations cause some were really flying high on the clouds of their imagination not realizing samsungs track record.

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[Galaxy S II General] androidsjonnie:
I also hate tw, i want to be a hipster.

But seriously, no one hates tw, just the tw launcher. Too bad most people dont give enough credit to samsu g, they think a custom rom always remove tw which isnt true at all, only if you switch to cm or miui.

The hw accelerated browser is just too awesome, I tried miui and cm7, the lack of good video support and accelerated browser is a big turn off for me.
[Galaxy S II General] Teio:
Lol... people needs to learn that TW and TW Launcher are actually different things... tw launcher is like the SGS2 sub forum inside XDA (TW).

If u hate the launcher, you are NOT hating Touchwiz...change the launcher and you're good to go...you're still able to use all of TW features...

Just clarifying this as I've seen so many newbies saying they hate TW so they change the launcher and are not using TW anymore...

Touchwiz is not ONLY the launcher guys.. c'mon...
[Galaxy S II General] user032:
The TouchWiz candy-colored application and settings icons look horrid on the AMOLED screen. With stuff like smart dialer and improved task managing in ICS there's little reason for using TouchWiz at all.

I never really liked Samsung calendar and music anyways.

Also the launcher and lock screen are terrible.

It's still better than Sense, I give you that.
[Galaxy S II General] PurpleFries:
I actually used the touchwiz launcher on cm7. Went back to it after seeing how smooth it ran compared to the other launchers. Plus when I put the app drawer in the center, it all worked and looked fine to me
[Galaxy S II General] screamworks:
You're just plain wrong on so many levels. For starters, I've never heard/seen the dislike of TouchWiz to be a 'hip' thing to do, or anything like that. Personally, I like the features it brings, but the launcher is horrid.

Now, to address those points...

*Built in screen capture by pressing home+lock.

CyanogenMod has it built into the power menu.

*Task manager built into long press.

Is a feature of GO Launcher, and I rarely, if ever, use a task manager, so having quick access to it doesn't provide any advantage.

*Swipe left/right to call/text in contacts/dialer/texts.

Again, this might save you all of a minute or so over the course of a month? The alternative is just tapping a contact and hitting call or text? and in GO SMS, the option to call from within a text is just a button away.

*Toggles in drop down menu.

CyanogenMod has it built into the notification bar too? Well, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, and sound - which are the only things I need to toggle on/off on a regular basis.

*Amazing UI in camera/file manager/music player.

I honestly don't like the UI in any of them. I find PlayerPro and PowerAMP to be much more appealing music players, the standard File Exploring app is fine, it does what it needs to, and isn't hideous, and the CyanogenMod UI is quite nice, and that's without the plethora of themes available.

*Ability to adjust display options, beyond what stock ROMs are capable of.

Or, you can download the app Soft Screen Tuner. On stock Samsung, I only ever changed the display settings once - so downloading a separate app, and only needing to access it once, isn't really an issue ;)

*Swype.

Downloadable separately, and you can update to the newest version

*Ability to adjust brightness by moving dropbar back and forth.

I use auto-brightness, and it does the job perfectly.

*The option to use the actual TouchQiz launcher.

I cannot stand the TouchWiz launcher, I find it ugly and off-putting. IMHO, anyone with even a slight sense of design could realise that quickly. Oh, and if you don't agree with that, then here's an alternative point - other launchers allow for a much higher level of customization, allowing for the look of the screens to modified, to an extent not possible with TWL, i.e. allowing for a better looking launcher.

*Divx, Xvid, and .avi support out of the box, as well as other formats supported only by Samsung.

Probably your only half-reasonable point, but I don't really watch that much on my phone, minus for YouTube videos. But if I did, it's easily solved with a third-party video player.

Oh, did I defeat your argument? I think yes...

Keep in mind, I'm taking this from the CyanogenMod standpoint - bare Android. Go take a look at ROMs such as MIUI, and then pretty much all of your points are not only matched, but actually done better in MIUI.
[Galaxy S II General] Gorjess:
Does cyanogen or other non samsung based rom maintain the default galaxy s 2 functionality such as mhl, usb otg and other samsung perks? Just curious..

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[Galaxy S II General] alinefr:
I never ever bothered myself about TouchWiz, as my major interest in my android is the system behind it. But even then, the first thing I always do with my phones is to get rid of the TW Launcher and replace it with LauncherPro.

Then, one day, I decided to try CM7. It was one way with no return. Not even the bugs that I did face in the beginning bothered me. CyanogenMod is exactly what I would expect from a smartphone: simple but highly configurable. + No blottware (meaning extra battery juice!)

As people has already said, CyanogenMod has even more advantages than the listed "advantages" of TouchWiz.
[Galaxy S II General] bartoloandre98:
The cam keeps me bound to tw
[Galaxy S II General] dk206:
simple maybe great. But try using a Galaxy S II for 6months then use a Nexus S (gingerbread)...

you really do miss all the good Samsung features.
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
First, let's get one thing straight! Cyanogen and miui are not 'bare android'!

They are themed roms just like sense and tw, to a higher or lesser degree!

If your argument is that they are built from aosp, so is tw and all others at some point.

Only aosp and nexus series roms from a factory are 'bare android' and hardly anyone likes them as such.

Your arguments are valid to a point that lot of builtin functions can be replaced with third party apps to replace tw ones cause they look better or replicate or mimic functions of tw or others on roms that do not have it. That just shows the beauty that is android. That's all. I myself use a lot of them, so what?

Point is nobody gives you more 'out of box' on android (symbian still trumps it when all os's are considered-only referring to functions out of factory) cept maybe sense (they are tied with each side having some extra pluses).

Don't like the bloatware? Take it off! Plenty of tw roms do just that. Or install cyanogen or miui or whatever.

And overall, there no reason to hate on anything as long as we have choice and we on sgs2 are blessed to have plenty of that. Right?

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[Galaxy S II General] jetpackjeff:
"Why don't you guys like cocaine? Cocaine is amazing!"
[Galaxy S II General] Myreality:
Lol...

Yeah i like touchwiz but it should be with some ics look too
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
Lol, some do!

Now stop trolling please!

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