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[Motorola Droid RAZR] ZonyX:
It'll be mainly tech sites that will take this story...

Ave emailed BBC news as they have a tech section

Sent from 3D land
[Motorola Droid RAZR] knewdood:
I've signed the petition as well. # 1654. And will continue to be a bother to the kind folks at motorola.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
Motorola has been a thorn in my side with this whole locked bootloader situation its its time I returned the favor
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Kipland007:
Here's what I wrote to CNN... I'm sure some people can find something better but if you're lazy you can just copy and paste.

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/show/?s=storyidea
[Motorola Droid RAZR] freeqaz:
Signed it up guys. I really hope this motion goes through! I've forgone upgrading to a Moto device specifically because of the bootloader. The hardware is nice, but I'll be damned if I let them lock down my own device.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Kipland007:
I'd just like to encourage everyone to send this to CNN (or any other news source)... get it in the news would be HUGE to having the bootloader unlocked, as many people who don't even know what it is will rethink about buying moto...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] depth_charge:
oh crab!

how didnt i realize there was un on my post.... x_x
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
U got me excited for a sec lol its cool
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bb12489:
Then why comment if you have nothing constructive to say about this?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] firsttimer44:
Nobody cares
[Motorola Droid RAZR] :
You're right, it's REAL mature not to help us out because you found the word mosh in the hashtag... because there's such thing as a mature hashtag. I loathe low-lifes like you that think they have to chime in on things they don't fully understand. Go back to your cave and let us do our thing, we're certainly not hurting anyone and you chose to click on the thread.

/2cents
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Kipland007:
+1

I don't understand why people are opposed to this movement.... perhaps they are Motorola employees?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
Stfu!!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
U r 15 prob doesnt have a clue at what a bootloader is lol.

MOSH stands for

Make

Our

Selves

Heard
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
LMAO..... i BET U HE WORKS FOR MOTOROLA OR VERIZON LOL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
Just adding more fuel to the fire
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Yes all that stuff does is make us push harder
[Motorola Droid RAZR] blkrabb1t:
Someone should take up on this!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] :
I've already emailed the hosts of the podcast All About Android, two of which are going to CES. I have asked them to please ask Motorola reps. about this. In that email I also included links to this forum and a couple of news websites and blogs that picked up on the story. Hopefully they will ask.

Can someone with the ability to post links please make sure every motorola phone has a forum linking to here?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] singlesword:
It doesn't have to be just motorola forums we should touch every forum for help. I bet that every developer, modder, and hacker can help to this cause and I believe that this can be done.

I've gotten 10 of my friends to sign and they don't have motorola phones. Everyone that likes full control of their phone should help with this.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wooooowwe:
We should get at phoned and technology buffalo
[Motorola Droid RAZR] :
What? I'm not sure what this means.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
Yes phonedog and technobufflo r good sites to hit
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
imo, it's time to leave moto Europe alone. they've heard us.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xTremePower:
We heard us .....

the message say we will have more info on bootloaders....

don't want infos ...

want unlocked bootloader and work on custom roms....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Un fortunately an unlock tool is not somthing they can just come up with idek how.long developing one takes but i cant imagine it would be anything short of atleast a month after they get it through there heads
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
Moto Europe is just a division - they don't have control of it, all they can do is localize it after its released. We need to focus on Motorola itself.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Its going to be all over kalamazoos radio stations 88.3 103.3 :) hopefully.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] benefit14snake:
Dont have much to add to the conversation. Just want to let you guys know im still going strong 5-10 facebook posts per day on motorolas wall.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Coderedpl:
Sign petition, spread the news.

Hopefully something comes out of this.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
Same here
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
Gonna add a "call" option in a few...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] snoop5:
which motorola on facebooks do i spam (electronics)

never mind have it thanks
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
Okay, call option added. I hope all of the numbers still work...

Really? You couldn't think of a better reason, so you criticize the name of all things?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
Lol, looks like ASUS is repping for us.

http://www.facebook.com/ASUS/posts/302287723147966
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattlgroff:
Go team MOSH!

Sent from a 15 year old punk rocker
[Motorola Droid RAZR] johnlgalt:
I've tried 4 different browsers and every one of them says I cannot leave city blank - but it is not. I did notice that on IE< it briefly shows state, then gets overlayed by country, so I'm never able to actually enter a state. but until that gets fixed I can't sign the petition....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jimmynoos:
I have to say that I envy you guys on this. Let me just say that this may never happen. I had a DX, DX2, and Razr and none have been unlocked after these types of activities. Moto is just playing the blame game at this point if HTC and Samsung have opened up on the VZ network.

I just traded my Razr for a Gnex and WILL NEVER again buy a Motorola until they change their direction on the Bloader lock.

But... I get why everyone is blasting their social networks. Keep going, it may change... someday in the distant future. BTW, I have posted several times. GL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
Thank u I have a feeling that this time it'll happen
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
I know. I hope it happens too!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brendodendo:
Love my OG Droid, but will not buy another moto device unless / until this has been satisfactorily resolved.

That includes: Android Phones, ANDROID Tablets, MOTOACTV, Mobile Phone Accessories, Bluetooth-Headsets, Two-way Radios and Accessories (PRS, GMRS, MURS), Cordless & Corded Phones, Home Networking, DSL Modems and Gateways, Cable Modems & Gateways, Home IP Video, Home Digital Video, Remote Access Software

I think the only way to finish this is a complete boycott of Motorola products. The more and longer pressure we put on them the more likely this tactic will have an effect.

Keep it going. At least moto europe is getting annoyed, we have yet to see a response in the states as they are probably to busy gearing up for CES.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
Do you really think a few of us boycotting an already-flopping-sales-wise manufacturer that is inches away from being bought out by Google is going to get our point across?

It won't.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] blkrabb1t:
Ironically MOTOACTIV does not have a locked bootloader.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] MaxLe:
Now everyone has a Motorola join the operations, including people who have Milestone, Droid, Defy, Atrix, Atrix 4G... and ofc RAZR.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] blkrabb1t:
It worked for Verizon's stupid "convenience" fee that they were thinking about charging...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
They were very confident about their decision until the FCC said they were going to look into it, you know. Plus all of the mass complaining and petitions... Sort of like...exactly what we're doing.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dondavis007:
I have posted on the usual places. I hope they will unlock. I always buy my phones without any carrier and think its up to me if I will tinker or not with my own hardware. First and last time with Motorola. Even Sony Ericsson gives me the choise...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] blkrabb1t:
Honestly, I've been buying Motorola since the E815, and if they don't unlock bootloaders, this RAZR will be my last Motorola. And with Google buying Motorola, something is bound to come up!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
damn, blocked again on FB for posting too much. I must be doing a good job. :D

I also tweeted them like 15 times today. :p

Im going to say F(%K Moto forever if they fail to make good on their word.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
Any update from their side yet?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] :
We need to keep this up through the weekend. They are probably hoping that the fury slows over the next few days. Let's prove them wrong.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] reachking:
Hi, i've just signed, fb-ed and am trying to get some friends and relative to sign too! :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] benefit14snake:
Thats my post lol
[Motorola Droid RAZR] benefit14snake:
Talk about keeping up with the Jones.. I havent had my fb blocked at all! Gosh i suck at this...time to increase productivity! =)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
3,000 sigs.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] floridaboy69:
I know they have a huge office(HQ?) in South Florida in my old neighborhood, right off sunrise blvd, they also have an office in Orlando, we could organize some sort of live movement, that always gets a company's attention and the attention of the media.

We just need to simplify our means so that everyone understands what this moment means to us and why its important for consumers to have full control over the hardware/software.

**Even if its not a direct "mobile" division its still a live representation of the company.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Cdjones187:
LMAO. Their Facebook page is getting hammered! Whoever 'Dave Demlong' is you are persistent ;]
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
You think you could do that? It would be great if a live appeal is put out in front of their office.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] WVULTRA:
Signed the Petition and filed the FCC Complaint!

;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] firsttimer44:
It's hard to believe Motorola hasn't responded yet. Does this company really not give a ****? I know we are a small minority of people that own the phone, but dang, they could at least respond.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] floridaboy69:
I would have to find several people at least 50 in my area and we would have to make it clear what we wanted. Also people in larger metropolitan areas should do the same thing.

I'm also posting on 4chan's /g/ (technology) to see if anon wants any part of this shenanigans.

Also the more regular people we can get on board with the movement the better. I'm no developer, but I love being able to install custom roms, kernels and having full user control over my hardware.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Cdjones187:
This concerns multiple phones. All phones since the Droid1 I believe actually. Minus the atrix and xoom of course. So its kind of ridiculous there has not been 1 single comment concerning any of our thoughts. Yet they reply to tweets constantly to people that are praising their devices...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
I dont think Moto is not concerned. I'm sure they have people monitoring this post and the petition every day. They're prepping an official diplomatic press release probably.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] slaeryx:
Most likely another stall tactic just like the past. they tend to leave a couple of 'non commital' word plays in there release so they can't be held to it. Just look at the ICS release 'we are planning to...' thats not a commitment, thats really just eases your mind into purchasing an old android version as the new versions appear elsewhere.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brendodendo:
TSON, I respectfully disagree. The same could be said for YOUR little petition, but look how many people have turned out to support the petition here in the USA and in Europe. Motorola is getting hammered. A complete boycott across the board will help show them that we are serious. It worked for the Motorola Israel boycott 2 years ago. They even sold off a division due to that action. As far a Motorola flailing, if the Google buy goes through, I give them a fighting chance in the market. They (Motorola) apparently have a large and dedicated user base that would "like" to support them. I don't see them collapsing like Palm, HP or Rim in the near future.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Cdjones187:
Same here. Its thoughts like his that are the reason people don't even try, they just assume it won't/doesn't matter. It's better to vote "undecided" than not vote at all. In this case if you care at all what do you have to lose, maybe 90 seconds of your life? lol...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] loonie01:
I wouldn't call it a boycott. We all bought the phone already.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] frankyvee:
FYI, You have a double negative in your first sentence...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] benefit14snake:
If they really are monitoring this then let it be known that this will be my last Motorola device I ever buy. The fact that we have not even got a response on the matter is insulting. This is not how I run my business and I refuse to be treated this way.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Cxpher:
Gonna sell my RAZR and pick up a Arc S instead later today. Locked bootloader policy being the main reason.

Don't like the idea of being promised something in 2011 and picking up this device and being played the fool.

Motorola lacks proper business etiquette. Reason why the rest of the Android community is slowly but surely going to leave them behind.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
Yes, the double not is to indicate that they are concerned.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
There's already a bunch of us sworn off of them to begin with, have you seen their Q4 sales announcement? Not to mention that they're a few moments from being bought out Google, which means if we DO boycott them, it's not going to do anything in a huge market such as the US, and come when the deal goes through it'll be even more minuscule because they'll probably have a product to show that's "too good to pass up" for the general public.

I feel as if the bootloaders will be unlocked after the Google buyout anyway...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattlgroff:
Anyone else posting on the Motorola Support Forums?

Try not to spam here, but try to get legit answers?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] floridaboy69:
8475235000

Its there Mobility number, they blocked me as soon as I was put on hold but lets put on the squeeze right where they live, call and mention "they blocked my friends number" then continue to talk about the bootloaders, ask to speak with their supervisor etc.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] :
Signed, and copied signature from walter79.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] SophT:
Their "tactic" a year ago when we tried this with the MileStone was exactly the same - just totally ignore it and let their poor service reps and forum admins get hammered for a week. They never issued a statement or did anything and eventually it died. :eek:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
We just have to keep going we've already lit the flame now all we got to do is keep it burning
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mym_TheOne:
Chinese defyer
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
What I'm worried about is the flame dying out. Please lets not allow that to happen
[Motorola Droid RAZR] :
I came up with the idea to take a stand at the Las Vegas CES and no one has come fourth on here or rootz. Everyone wants to do this from behind their monitor. As long as that is the mentality, nothing will get accomplished. The flame is already burning out. IF consumers were really serious about this they would have taken me up on my offer. I'll just sell this on craigslist, get a rezound and be done with it
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
Noooooo. The stand at CES is an awesome idea. I stay 3000 miles away in India, would've definitely joined you otherwise. Post on social groups and see, I'm sure you'll find 100 people at the very least.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
Yeah I'm too far away or I would join u for sure
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DeadChex:
Motorola has heard us! BUT HAS DONE LITTLE

From the "Ice Cream and Bootloaders" post they have, they have changed the bootloader statement from:

"It is our

intention

to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on MOTOROLA XOOM,

in future software releases starting in late 2011

"

TO...

"It’s our

plan

to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on the Motorola XOOM,

in future software releases starting later this year

"

They have heard us... yet only covered themselves not addressed us!

At least they claim to have a plan...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brendodendo:
TSON, Thanks for putting this together. I have seen the q4 sales numbers, and along with Moto's desire to create a great product, they can't seem to get it through their heads what consumers actually want and at what price. I do think Google will have a significant impact on the company if the deal goes through.

I'm pretty stoked to see how many android users are actually proactive for a piece of technology.

I would love to join a "live" demonstration against Verizon or Motorola on this issue. A combined effort like we have been making, a boycott of Motorola's products across the board by all of us and live demonstrations against Motorola and Verizon at CES and Corporate / Flagship stores will defiantly get our message across. Getting them to acknowledge the efforts is another thing.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bb12489:
This is just unacceptable! Just to cover there own asses now....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] frankyvee:
They have just kicked the can down the road...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
It seems like the good people over on Android Forums don't share our view!:o:o:o

http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-razr/475280-help-unlock-bootloader.html
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
It appears that Motorola's tactic of shifting the blame to VZW and convincing the consumer of such a lie is very much believed over there.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
Yes, it's bizarre that people can be so narrow minded that they believe a global policy is dictated by a single US carrier!

Oh and I do not mean the USS Nimitz which could effect global policies!:):):)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pOOBAH1973:
What? What are you saying? You mean that U.S. law doesn't apply to the rest of the world? How dare they making their own laws? ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
The international version should've been unlocked to begin with.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ZonyX:
Agreed... International versions arent tied to a carrier... No real reason for them to be locked

Sent from 3D land
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dalamar686:
Motorola are liars, they arent even locking the bootloader for any carrier. They do it cause they dont give a crap about consumers period.

They fixed the bootloader so you CAN'T unlock it anymore, for the US cellular Electrify only a month or so ago... US cellular has nothing to do with this verizon idiocy!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
It does in Spain!

http://torrentfreak.com/us-threaten...or-not-implementing-site-blocking-law-120105/

:(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
First off this again is still two fold. Verizon and motorola. Verizon wont allow it and motorola doesnt want to. With that said...... moto atleast for verizon users could go outside of moto and release a tool.

My next question is this............

If Motorola wont unlock the bootloaders is that not illegal according to the fcc same as verizon? Not allowing us the user to freely install and use any software that is available or maybe created for said device? So What if decide to throw FCC complaints down against moto. Motorola may not care about the " 1.5% " but i can guarantee you 4000 FCC complaints will be enough. All so filling suits with the BBB Better Business Burro .

Why not get people down to Las vegas to petition motorola? Its not about getting them to realize you have a alot of people angry but rather it simply makes them look bad and u can bet ur money it will attract attention. We need to do somthing public wether is petition out side of ur stateside motorola HQ every state has one.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Stuckinabox:
Hey guys, I just got permission from the petition starter to brainstorm revisions for the "why is this important" summary on the page.

I felt it looked a little rushed and had some grammatical errors, and he's a little busy right now so he doesn't really have time to fix it up. Let's come up with the exact message we want people to see when they go to sign that petition, and what we want companies to see when they look at. It should have very clear objectives and have a cool, professional attitude towards Moto/VZW.

Once we have the finished product I'll send it back to the petition starter.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kholk:
Do you all know that this attempt has been made multiple times?

Do you all know that everytime this made Moto to be even more closed than ever?

Do you all know that this attempt, like every attempt like this, will make Moto to close the communications with all of us (they've already done this since you started)?

And do you all know that this is useless, like every campaign like this have been (at least with Moto)?

I'm not trying to discourage you, I've bought a RAZR only because Moto said explicitly and multiple times that the EU version was unlocked/unlockable, so I'm as angry as all the EU users.

I'm only pointing out the reality of this thing.

Oh, just only a phrase for VZW RAZR owners:

Has Moto said that VZW RAZR would sooner or later be unlocked?

You shouldn't be angry with them because you've bought the product knowing it wasn't open for freedom and that it has got some limitations.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattlgroff:
>"Don't bother trying"

>"...not trying to discourage you..."

Sure you aren't. Thinking like that helps nobody but party poopers.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kholk:
I've only invited you all to think like a mature person, not like a child: everyone is free of doing anything they want, I'm not forcing anyone to act like I want and I'll never want to do something like that.

And anyway, for making Moto to change their policy about the bootloaders, the only thing that will work is to not buy Moto devices until they release only proven unlockable ones.

Did you notice that they're ignoring you all and laughing at your back?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] faber78:
Newsflash, all been done. With over 10k signatures on groubual (or whatever)....you aren't doing anything new.

But I wish you luck.

As for me, moto will never get a dollar out of me or the people whom trust me.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nx Biotic:
Aint gna happen
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mikedyk43:
There is nothing childish about exercising one's right to rally for a cause, it is among many great freedoms we are afforded in this country. Further more, the mentality that we are not a big enough force to contend with the likes of a company the size of Motorola is just narrow minded. It is not that one little group can influence a company, but even the smallest of groups can bring a lot of attention (good or bad) to a subject or company when the correct methods are implemented. It is correct to say that Motorola probably does not care about the development community or us petitioning to get boot loaders unlocked, however they DO care when that outcry and petitioning reaches a level where it becomes visible to the national or even worldwide public. Bad press costs companies money, period. Motorola may not care about us, but they sure as hell care about dwindling sales because of protests and petitions.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Stuckinabox:
Aren't some of you dismissing this a little too quickly? This is all happening after HTC and ASUS gave into customer demands regarding bootloaders, and Motorola, who have already said they were going to provide an unlock solution, have done nothing all year except lazily push the deadline back to some totally unknown time frame. It's not like they released a statement saying "no, sorry, we're never going to unlock them," and we're just going PLEAAAAAAASE.

Also, the majority of what we're doing is so easy it's silly to just not do anything. There's nothing worse than people saying "nope, not gonna work," and not taking a mere 30 seconds to sign.