yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milf33:
LOL dude, are you afraid someone would snipe your ass? Yes it's kevlar coating but still... :p
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milkshed27:
Sorry to hear about your phone, however, I'm not surprised at all. I'm a HUGE roller coaster enthusiast. Some coasters can pull upwards of 5 Gs. So you have to take into consideration that you had anywhere from 3 to 5 times your body weight slamming into your phone.

Not to mention that if any period of intense positive G force was preceded by any negative G force, (which is a certainty on any coaster with a drop) you may have been out of your seat for a second or two on the way down from the drop, causing even more force as you slam back into your seat as you reach the bottom of the drop.

All that said, I do use my phones all the time when I ride roller coasters because I love listening to music while I ride. Depending on the restraint type, I either keep my phone in my front pocket or I shove it in my pants right between my belt line and my crotch (LOL!). If it's an over the shoulder restraint then the front pocket will do, but for lap bar restraints the front pocket is a no go.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mistawolfe:
^Way too smart for me^

Your roller coaster knowledge is impeccable.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] newowner:
Thanks for the education and the suggestions milkshed- almost everyone else seemed to want to poke an eye out, but you have a little more patients.

I was trying to point out that doing activities, that differ from the norm,

may cause a challenge.

I still don't believe that Gorilla Glass lives up to what its supposed to do.

For those wondering about the integrity of the skin on my cheeks, no damage. ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milkshed27:
Aww, don't say that, I'm sure your level of intelligence is more than adequate . ;)

I've been riding coasters for years. My curiosity/obsession started after watching National Lampoon's Vacation when I was a kid.

Folks get into coasters just as much as they do phones in these forums.

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I hear ya. My girlfriend just had her Razr replaced after she dropped it while taking the Cleveland Browns to the Super Bowl. :D

According to her (I, thankfully was not around) the drop was not very high or hard, but the top half of the screen was shattered. I just takes the phone being dropped or pressured in the wrong way I guess. I never had a problem with my previous smart phones when they've been dropped. Maybe the Razr being so compact has something to do with it?

On the bright side, she received her replacement from Asurion a couple of days ago. We had asked the person we spoke to on the phone about having a brand new Razr shipped instead of a refurb. Thankfully when we opened the UPS box, inside was a brand spankin' new Droid Razr.

Hope your replacement phone turns out to be a new Razr as well!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] circleofomega:
I am really sorry for you...but just one thing, Gorilla Glass is scratch-proof, NOT ROLLERCOASTER proof...

If you sit on it whilst in a rollercoaster and expect it to be intact...you surely believe that Santa's for real too...

Nonetheless I like your warning...will make sure rollercoastering and Razr don't mix...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milesg:
Man, I sure am glad I read this warning! :eek:

I was just finished duct-taping my RAZR to the bottom of my shoe, ready to go for a run and now I'm thinking... maybe I should change it so the screen isn't facing the ground ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xTremePower:
From Corning Gorilla Glass FAQ :

normal .... this glass are ion reinforced, but it a GLASS....

after people come and say : I used my Razr as a hammer to drive a nail... don't understand... the glass is broken :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ianford10:
Lol, sorry dude but anyone who is silly enough to put any phone in there back pocket then takes a ride on a rollercoaster deserves everything they get.

Sorry for not being sympathetic but truly what was going through your mind by thinking your phone would be safe?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Rutz272:
Lol! :-D :-D :-D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kimo91:
One word: DUH!!!! Doing anything out of the norm other than talking/texting/net surfing can and more than likely crack or break any cell phone. And I don't believe gorilla glass was designed to be under any arse on a roller coaster no matter how big or small you are.

Sent from my Boeing approved Moto Droid Razr
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sporttster:
The commercials show the razr being able to split light poles in two and chip cement up...what's a little rollercoaster??:D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kimo91:
Don't forget slicing through a 4 tier cake after being shot through an air cannon LMAO

Sent from my Boeing approved Moto Droid Razr
[Motorola Droid RAZR] teegunn:
I actually think the glass on the RAZR may be more succeptible to cracking/breaking from inward/outward pressures. Maybe it isn't as thick - I don't know - but it doesn't seem as sturdy as my dx or dx2 was in that respect. That being said, of course it's not meant to sit in your back pocket on a roller coaster ride.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] IP IHI II IL:
Guess the commercial was right, IT IS too powerful to fall in the wrong hands... The wrong hands put in their back pocket, and got on a roller coaster...

FACE PALM!

\\Carved into this thread by my RAZR//

http://android-gz.com
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kimo91:
LOL but the poster above you was very informative and learned a bit more about gorilla glass and basically from what I translated its not nuclear meltdown resistant. Thinner isn't always better and I'm glad I didn't put my eggs into the gorilla glass basket when I was deciding between the Razr or GNex...I went for build quality and radio strength over gorilla glass and ICS. I always thought gorilla glass being close to indestructible was a myth and I'm seeing that now

Sent from my Boeing approved Moto Droid Razr
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milesg:
Isn't the back of the RAZR made of Kevlar?

And isn't Kevlar the same stuff that bullet proof vests are made of?

How about an experiment to find out how tough the RAZR really is?..

I'm prepared to be the one doing the shooting, if someone else would like to hold the phone for me.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] IP IHI II IL:
Gorilla glass is a lot less SCRATCHABLE than others, but it's still glass... Nothing is indestructible, ESPECIALLY phones...

\\Carved into this thread by my RAZR//

http://android-gz.com
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wooooowwe:
Actually gorilla glass works. The glass did not crack or break. It was the SCREEN. Gorilla glass keeps screen from being scratched. It did its job. ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bebeau25:
To the OP...really?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] altimax98:
Greatest reply ever

Sent From Nexi - The Galaxy Nexus
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Oaklands:
Note to self: "Do not put phone against ass when riding a roller coaster." Got it!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kimo91:
Oh I knew it was less susceptible to scratches which I've known for a couple of years but a lot of people swear up and down gorilla glass is the toughest glass in the universe and all I do is shake my head. LOL

Sent from my Boeing approved Moto Droid Razr
[Motorola Droid RAZR] !shocker!:
I never understand why some people always put their cell phone in their back pocket. Mobile phones are not meant to be sat on, and when a manufacturer claims to have created a more resiliant device, that is not a permission slip to abuse or treat your device with more callousness.

Bullet-proof vests are made of multiple layers of Kevlar (meant to slow the bullet down to a stop) and not just one like in the Droid RAZR.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] lexobys:
+ 1 ...LOL

Sent from my blek krupuk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jtsativa420:
I agree i don't understand the back pocket deal. In fact the only people I regularly see doing that is women. Mainly because their front pockets are too small/obsolete.

Great explanation although don't even know why it was needed.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Talal916:
I used to put in my crotch too, but then I took a Nexus to the nuts....:p
[Motorola Droid RAZR] seanmcd72:
This should be pinned. Everyone should be warned about the extreme dangers of riding rollercoasters with your $300+ phone in the back pocket!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kimo91:
+1. LMAO

Sent from my Rooted and Safestrapped Moto DROID RAZR
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rushless:
Gorilla glass is not a static load bearer, yet alone when g forces are applied. The kevlar is worthless too.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] emailpivot:
I have a problem. My chair has a bad leg, and I used my razr to fill the gap.

Now it's not working anymore.

I thought that gorilla glass and Kevlar could have helped that out.

Should I call the customer service?

Inviato dal mio XT910 usando Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kimo91:
Contact the chair maker and get your chair replaced. Hopefully by getting a replacement chair your Razr will work again LMFAO

Sent from my Rooted and Safestrapped Moto DROID RAZR
[Motorola Droid RAZR] :
Who on earth put a phone in their back pocket?????
[Motorola Droid RAZR] 4ktvs:
I put the Razr with otter box case on in with car keys and the screen protear failed me and I will never Otter box again. I have a thread about it.

P.S I would have like never done that, but I hope your phone is fixed.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] a_petrov303:
well I am getting my phone today and from the pictures I see in the inet, the back pocket is the only place it can fit when wearing jeans...of course, due to it being so big and thin, I will have to remove it from the pocket before sitting down though...

I never put my previous phones in the back pockets, but none of them was so big as Razr (the largest ones I can remember were Nokia N8, Desire S, Toshiba TG01)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] garlick2:
You're jeans are WAY too tight then.

I thought this phone was going to be too big, but it has fit in every pair of pants that i have in my front pocket, and it's so light & thin, it actually feels smaller than my previous D2G that I had.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maniAK-:
lol this is the most funniest thread ever

hes obviously a Iphone user just trying to badmouth this amazing tough phone

tell ya this phone could pass as a panasonic toughphone its freaking awesome strong

:)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] reaperzero:
phone in backpocket = pickpockets wet dream :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Adauth:
This thread is a joke...right?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ianford10:
No its very, very serious, this stands as a warning to all those who put there precious phone in there back pocket and decide to have a whirl on a rollercoaster. We just cannot stress enough that this should never, ever, ever, ever be attempted again, ever.

;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fosormic:
I had my RAZR in my back pocket and rode a roller coaster.... the screen cracked. Good tjinh i bought the insurance. GORILLA Glass my a$$!!

I had a commuter otterbox on, but that doesn't protect the screen.

And no I'm not obese.

Be careful!

A compilation of the best LOLs... this thread *really* made my day :)

Btw, I'm glad you got it replaced and with a new one. I'm actually quite fond of the Asurion guys, have been great with me.

Now, back to work all! lol
[Motorola Droid RAZR] toasterr:
This thread made my day. Haha

If you forget your phone in your back pocket while on a rollercoaster then you deserve what happens to it LOL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fosormic:
I think it was more of a test. What I am not sure is a test of what... The Kevlar? The Gorilla Glass? The insurance or something else...hehe I'll better shut up lol
[Motorola Droid RAZR] toasterr:
If it was the insurance, I'd be intrigued to know if he got his phone replaced, or if the folks at VZW had a similar reaction to the one we're having here and told him to get lost. I'm betting on the latter. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kimo91:
I think and I may be wrong here but it was a test of common sense vs. being brain dead....being brain dead won over this test LMAO

Sent from my Rooted and Safestrapped Moto DROID RAZR
[Motorola Droid RAZR] IP IHI II IL:
I thought this thread was bad, but then I ran across this piece of work:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1259766

Water under my screen?! Update: it wasn't water!

It's amazing how many people jump to admit that they put their $500 tab in their back pocket, then have the nerve to blame the tab... Lol

That's not water, numb nut it's ASS JUICE!

My tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread... Then it's just as Flyer...)

http://android-gz.com
[Motorola Droid RAZR] blkrabb1t:
I'm curious to see/hear how you were even able to sit on the phone comfortably. Is your butt that big?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] reaperzero:
i just have to say this.

So mate you have buns of steel????
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pb1379:
Gorilla glass was never meant to be unbreakable or even less so than other glass. To the contrary: Gorilla glass' strength is that it is hard, avoiding scratches. This said, it's probably even easier to break than normal glass is...

RAZR ROCKS!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] garlick2:
It's less easier to break, but more prone to shattering when it does. I posted earlier, but you're somewhat correct.

The science behind it, is that if you remove the Sodium atoms that are bonding the Silica together, and replace them with smaller (by volume) Potassium ions instead, you end up with less space between ions, creating a stronger bond between each silica atom & the Potassium.

Gorilla Glass, like many other products, was pretty much a mistake. Someone left a piece of glass in the Potassium bath solution too long, and the size shrunk to below the acceptable levels for corning to certify it as Chem Strengthened.

When they start, the Soda Lime glass that they use is between 1CM to 3CM in thickness. When they finish the bathing process, the thickness drops to between .3mm and 2.5mm (I believe that's the maximum thickness offered). That's a TON of volume to be removed.

The glass then has a higher flex point (the degree to which you can bend the material without breaking) because of how the Silica is now so close to the next silica atom, that it no longer is able to release (creating a break).

This also means that it has a higher force resistance (Measured in PSI).

What happens to this, though, is when the force is created enough for the silica to either separate from the Potassium bonds, or from the other silica atoms, the force is so spread, that rather than just a chip or a crack, multiple bonds break simultaneously, meaning complete shattering.

We've done testing on gorilla glass substrates at my company, due to our use of it in military applications, and the PSI for most Gorilla Glass substrates above .7mm of thickness, is around 500-750 PSI.

For standard soda lime glass, which is what is used in most commercial windows, and other applications, the force is below 200 PSI.

The problem with Gorilla Glass, is that the substrates are not uniform. This creates issues for industrial or military applications, because each substrate has a different breaking point.

There are other glass manufacturers that make hardened glass that is NOT gorilla glass that is more homogenized, but it's not as strong either, as Corning holds the patent on the process used to create the Gorilla Glass substrates, and anyone competing has to come up with their own "secret sauce" to cook the glass.

Sorry that's way more information than anyone is asking about. I'll go back to my engineering projects now.....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] theEnzy:
Thanks for your great explanation of G. Glass origin!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] blkrabb1t:
A lot of discoveries in science is based in either mistakes or pure luck.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rahulwadhwani:
The screen of my phone also broke.

It slipped from my hand. What should I do?

I don't have any kind of insurance too :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brunoerre:
I rode the 5th larger wooden roller coaster in the world with my razr on the pocket and the glass came out pretty alive and kicking (unlike me).
[Motorola Droid RAZR] newowner:
Perhaps you can search the internet for a replacement screen and tools. I looked on YouTube and replacing the screen looked easy... but you never know until you try.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] schizo:
That was my thought, originally, also after using sgs2. But now i realized my razr had collected two fine but definites scratches in the screen. It happen even when i always babysit it, whenever i put on my left front pocket, it ONLY befriended with my handkerchief.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22056872&postcount=9

Or maybe, just maybe, gorilla glass can stand knives while susceptible to handkerchieves...? :confused:

Damn, i hate to see scratched screen. It make me wanna sell it now... :mad:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Brynn217:
You know they do make these things called Phone Cases that clip to your belt as well.. the one I have actually has loops to put your belt thru... however the clip itself is so tight its gonna take a lot of come off.... and since I do also like coasters and have been on some of the best in the world... I, #1. Will leave the phone with someone not riding... #2, will make sure as they secure the restraint that the carry case on my belt is secure and in a position on my lap that will not get hit very easy...thats if I take it with me..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brunoerre:
Exactly. One doesn't simply ride a rollercoaster with a considerable-amount-of-cash-worthy phone/tablet/spacesuit/person/doll/xbox controller on the back pocket and expects it to have a comfortable nice trip.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] MoreYummy:
Is your crotch ok still? Need to move phone to new place now? :p:p
[Motorola Droid RAZR] circleofomega:
This is very scary...if there are more cases for this, it will have to be brought to MOTOROLA's attention...and like they are going to do something about it...hmm....could you post pics of your phone with these scratches??? Thanx...

Sent from my Droid RaZr.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ExtraDan:
fu**ing idiot..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] noybman:
Lets get back to what the OP was saying!

OMG... XDA is a place where we learn about our devices, good, bad, and beyond.

Occasionally we get the opportunity to learn a bit about our members, good, bad, and beyond.

Now while the OP has learned that up-up-and-away is not meant for the MAXX, he made a very pointed comment and concern, which was, Gorilla glass did not save his a$$ when riding a roller coaster, and felt the RAZR MAXX might have some durability issues.

Amongst the 7 pages of us all enjoying ourselves at his misery we have seen a number of people who sincerely commented on the quality of the 910 912 under less stressful environments. Lets get back to this topic as that is what this forum is for.

I am ... or was, a Verizon Omnia (i910) owner for what felt like forever. I have owned numerous smartphones; omnia, vx6700, storm, etc. I can tell you that these phones had indeed rode in my back pocket, or fallen off of a table onto a wooden floor, etc., they never shattered. These phones all developed little scratches etc, but never cracked.

NOW... today... 3 days after I bought it, my RAZR MAXX screen is broken. I'll gladly up photos to show you, but I can assure you nothing brutal happened to it. This morning it was cold outside, I was in this cold for less than 5 minutes. I put it into my winter jacket inside pocket which contained nothing but it, and under 10 minutes later after driving to work and pulling it out of my pocket @ work, it had developed a crack 3/4" on top left, up to the RHS of the speaker cutout. It is one crack, and it was not abused in this time frame. I didn't slam myself, my coat, or the phone into the door of my car, the steering wheel, nothing. I didn't drop it, throw it, or allow it to get hit by anything. It was not bent against anything or pressed against my chest in any forceful or continuous motions. My coat is a size larger than I am, and the pocket was designed to hold a phone.

My only thought is the warm-cold-hot environment, but this is a far cry from common sense because none of these transitions were "extreme" nor abrupt.

So, all sarcasm aside... BUYER BEWARE! These phones are 100% certainly more fragile than anything I have ever personally owned and I would advise you buy the insurance because you can bet when yours breaks you are not going to want to be the one begging Verizon to replace it and trying to explain how it broke only because you looked at it cross-eyed.

I have NEVER purchased insurance on my phones and have never regretted it. This is the one time where I now know I have no choice. I wont go back to the slowness of my Omnia. The MAXX is an awesome phone and that said I will use insurance with my replacement (as soon as it comes). Thankfully Verizon is tossing me a solid on this one and providing me a replacement once they are in stock.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Touch-ee:
Yeah these screens are terrible!! I duct taped my Razr to the bottom of my shoe and went running. When I got home the screen was cracked!! What a pos!! ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dccoh:
I feel your pain. I recently glued my Razr Maxx to the Space Shuttle. After it spent a week in orbit, it finally arrived back. Apparently a meteor storm left a barely noticed scratch at the bottom of the display, so its no longer pristine!

I'm going to call Verizon and see if I have Gamma Radiation Insurance now. After a recent lab experiment, i've been known to have a bad temper, and I forsee this being an issue. If they tell me I don't have Gamma Radiation Insurance I'll be angry, and they won't like me when i'm angry :).
[Motorola Droid RAZR] reaperzero:
.....

dear god the stupidity in this thread is over 9000
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dccoh:
I was outside quite a bit this weekend, and the temperature was in the single digits. I wore a pair of jeans that were not so thick and had my Razr Maxx in my front pocket.

I spent sometime out there clearing snow, and cleaning off the fiancee's car. This story was in the back of my mind the entire time.

I have a high gloss silicone case and no screen protection (not yet at least, I know dumb, but I need to get something).

I checked the phone, and it had no scratches at all, nothing. So either other people have phones that already have flaws of some type, or they accidentally hit it and are unaware.

To recap: Single digit temperatures, with me going in and out the house, mall, stores, multiple times, each time cleaning off my car, with the only thing protecting my screen from the weather is a pair of thin material jeans. I was either lucky, or more aware of the $600+ phone in my pocket? Who knows.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] MattyOnXperiaX10:
Just cause its Kevlar doesn't mean you'll be protected from gangsters aiming at your bumb
[Motorola Droid RAZR] vonapets:
One of my friends had this phone and the sim card housing started playing up and not reading his sim card. He sent it away on warranty. When he got it back and unwrapped it the phone had a crack from top to bottom. I will post pictures soon. Now he has to send it away for another 2 weeks to get a replacement.

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
No offense but only an idiot would sit on his phone and even a bigger idiot would be surprised that it got broken... :-)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] zackw:
That phone has clearly had some physical damage to it at the bottom, you can see the indent of it striking something, as well as the bulge at the seam.

So either he dropped it when he opened it; Motorola damaged it (unlikely) and still sent it out, or the carrier completely abused the package during delivery.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] R3dbeaver:
just my 2c:

when i think Gorilla glass, i think scratch resistant.

not anti-shatter, anti-crack, anti-bend.

when i think of Kevlar backing, i think light, strong, durable back cover.

again, not anti-shatter, anti-crack, or even bulletproof (it does, however, bend)(though the frame does not. it is plastic afterall)

am i the only one? am i the only one that ever seen the commercial in tv or in malls where the guy scratch the glass with a coin? but didnt shoot it with a gun?

seriously?