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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Itaintrite:
It's the same with every device, even the iDevices have their haters. As long as you're happy with yours. I still gotta pick mine up from the office but I'll only return it if it's defective, not because I no longer want it. My only issue with the original TF was the rather ugly and bulky design (and the less than stellar screen when compared to the GTab), but that's no longer the case.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xTRICKYxx:
I must be lucky. Wifi is on par with the TF101, no light bleeding (my TF101 had it bad), and everything seems perfect.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tylermaciaszek:
Agree on the wifi I pull down 19mbps it's so quick
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mr_Armageddon:
Mine works fine

Ordered my 32GB Grey from Tiger Direct on 11/22, arrived today (12/30).

Have been playing with it for the last 2 hours, and so far so good.

No noticable Screen Bleeding

No noticable Lag issues in OS or browser

No major GPS Issues (Can see 11, Locked onto 9 Sats in about 15 seconds)

No major Wifi Isses (Range and Speed just a tad under my Galaxy S II using the router at my office. I will test again when I get home tonight.)

Attached is a picture of my GPS Test to show that it works fine. Maybe something will creep up as I use it more, but as of right now, I am very pleased with this device. Now just waiting on my keyboard dock to arrive.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SHRED:
Going to Best Buy today to ask for a replacement.. gonna see how that works.

Love it but I can't live with the 2 faulty pixels on the unit.

GPS and WIFI all work no problem for me, very little black light bleed... great device, too bad for the faulty pixels.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flight777:
Maybe they fixed it in a new batch? That would be great news! Can't wait until it arrives in The Netherlands if they fixed the GPS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yixmal:
I'm, having the same issue. I have these couple of pixels at the bottom of the unit (when holding it landscape) that are always a shade brighter than the rest of the screen or image I am looking at.

Other than that everything is fine on it. Wish I could just exchange it at a BB store instead of dealing with shipping time as I use it for work every day....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] andddlay:
Got mine today and everything seems to work perfectly :) , besides the GPS not working late lol, though not a big deal
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kidkreole:
Me to...

However reading all these issues does not really live up to My expectations, makes me even a bit less enthosiastic...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Pizza4Breakfast:
My 32GB Prime from Best Buy has everything working correctly(wifi,gps,screen,etc..). But just a question, why do you guys need GPS to work on a tablet? I mean don't you have a phone for that? ._.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Rieksfier:
Because it was stated on the features and specs when we made this purchase, that the TFP had GPS. Anything less is unacceptable. Period.

When you buy a car and the sticker says it has A/C and the next day you go for a drive and the A/C doesnt work, when you take it to the dealer and he says "well can't you just roll down the windows?" would you find, that acceptable?

Whether you really need it or not doesn't matter. A lot of people might not have a smartphone.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ravizzle:
Got offers from friends to buy my prime for 50 bucks profit, but hell no. no way I an selling this beast.

Asus is great about timely updates do I know the small glitches will be resolved in updates. I was lucky to have no screen bleed, wifi is adequate enough for me, and gps locks on with wifi assistance and no other scenario which I will use it anyways.

Sent from my Galaxy S2
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
but the GPS works it's Wifi aided GPS.

the same way a smartphone's GPS operate it works in conjunction with the device's built-in 2G-GSM/3G/4G network antenna.

You guys are complaining about having to wait a few minutes for your GPS to locate you, that's not bad, that's about the same delay the way the TomTom GPS work.

ASUS really don't have to correct this since aided GPS should be expected in a wifi-only tablet.

in other words, wait for the ASUS Transformer Prime 4G for instant GPS service, at a pricetag of $649 for 32GB, $749 for 64GB ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Itaintrite:
Lol, have you ever used a Tomtom GPS device? Or even Tomtom on a smartphone with AGPS? It doesn't take a few minutes, just SECONDS. Say whatever you want to make you feel better about your purchase though ;) But don't tell others what to do with their devices.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ka911:
it's past the point to have it for Christmas. no point to pay more for it at this stage. No any joy and excitement of having it right now only if medically required to own it right NOW!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
i have a Tomtom XL 350, it sometimes take up to 2 minutes for it show my location.

I also have GPS built-in my car "Bluelink" and it's not instantaneously either.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tylermaciaszek:
+1 im with you
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aznmode:
+1. If you buy something because it had a feature you liked and they skimped out on it, I dont think thats right. Some dont care for gps but those that do have the right to complain about it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ipswitch:
I have the same 2 pixels.... mmm odd are they dead pixels or is this something hopefully an update can fix?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jfranco328:
What router are you using and how is your network setup?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] btmec:
I am having some issues. The bleed it the worst I have seen on any device. I have been using it for about 2 hours and so far have lost wifi over 10 times and the wifi speed on a speed test is only 2mpbs. On my Tab 10.1 it is over 60mbps consistently.

I just got it earlier today and I am considering sending it back to Amazon. I figure the wifi issue will be fixed by an update but the bleeding it really bad.

This tablet is incredibly light and it is FAST! I love everything about it but those two issues.

Oh....Another issue - not all apps show up. I was going to get some of the Gameloft games that are $.99 but only two show up. The market is different than on the Tab 10.1. The Tab has recommended tablet apps and shows more apps but at least this one has movies and music integrated.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GCurry:
I have a good for 30-days RMA from Best Buy. I'll wait about a week to see what Asus does, after removing the GPS trait from their spec for the TF Prime. In the meantime, I'm unmotivated to configure the TFP. In fact, about all I'm doing is the QA that I feel that Asus should have done before shipping this thing. Nice tablet, but not enough better IMHO from the Samsung Tab 10.1 that my wife bought half a year ago - as finished product.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clenz:
I have a $1,500 GPS in my fishing boat and that always takes several minutes to lock a position. Granted, every time Im turning it on its after I travelled a few hundred miles...

I guess it depends on several factors.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jmt230:
I'm not returning mine in spite of the problems.

Yes, there it light bleed. A very minimal amount, and really only visible on start up in complete darkness. My TF101 had worse light bleed than this and it never was an issue for me.

No, the GPS doesn't work. But when the hell am I going to use my tablet as a GPS? I have a GPS in my car, I have a phone with GPS, why do I need this to have a GPS? Granted, some people may need that feature, but I don't. Besides, I've tried to use my phone for navigation before and it doesn't work at all - dedicated GPS devices are much better, IMO.

Wifi signal is not in line with my laptop. All these numbers people throw around, though, have me skeptical. I've tried several different wifi speed test websites (CNet's, myspeedtestonline.com, etc.), and I get different numbers for both my laptop and the TFP on all of them. In any case, I can sit in my room, on the other side of the house from my router with no signal repeater and browse the web, stream a movie, or stream music on my TFP just fine. IMO, the numbers don't matter - it's the experience. I happen to be fine with the experience - some of you may not, but that's a matter of taste, I think.

I think a lot of people are just looking for problems - they probably won't be happy with any device really.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Col.Kernel:
Did you pay for a GPS in your tablet? Yes

Does it work? No

Did you get ripped off? Yes

Are you going to get it fixed? No

Are you a sheep to be fleeced by whatever huckster comes along? You figure it out.......

If I pay $10 for something and it doesn't do what I bought it to do then one of two things;

A) I bought the item with incorrect expectations

or

B) It's broken

In either event it is getting returned.

Why would a $600 item be any different?

It is because of the lackadaisical attitude of people like you that businesses feel they can foist off substandard crap on the public and get away with it.

In your case, they are right.

In my case, well my money is hard earned. When my Prime comes in (hopefully next week, I ordered a 64 GB version hoping to avoid the issues with the early production runs) if the damn thing isn't up to spec I'll send it back until it IS up to spec or I get tired of having $600 tied up in a product I won't get to use.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tylermaciaszek:
how many of us bought this tablet with the

"im going to use GPS on a daily basis to navigate in my car to my job meetings"

if so there are very few most bought it because it is tegra 3 and will get ics quickly so i dont think i got ripped off at all and im totally fine i have to use GPS for it to work
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] unknown_owner:
All, we need to see what Asus is going to say about the problem. In order to force them to respond here is what we can do. Everyone call support and request a RMA. No you don't have to return you tablet to them but the excessive number of RMA's at the end of the year will strain their numbers. No company likes this. These numbers will cause execs to become aware of what is happening. Support doesn't always tell execs about what is going on because they feel they can solve all problems. I for one am going to call and request an RMA but never use it. And with articles coming out about the GPS issue, I think Asus will at least talk amongst themselves this weekend.

Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jfranco328:
I second all of that. GPS is not a concern for me,but its does work outside of my home and is accurate. Using gps test i found at least 11 satellites within seconds not using wifi. I understand and respect peoples opinions of paying $500 for a device and every thing should work for what we payed for it, but when I preordered my prime a working gps was a feature I never even thought about. And to everyone complaining, we all knew the release date kept getting pushed back. As an early adopter, we all should have expected some issue at luanch. How many apps, pc games or console games have you purchased that does not require a software update after its released? The same with cellphones and cellular networks migrating to 4g... i big bought the prime becuase of its feature set and design, knowing as an early adopter it may have issues. Lucky for me it doesnt. If it did, i would return it and wait a couple of month for Asus to work out the bugs, then purchase again from a new batch. The prime I received just two days before Christmas works in every aspect as it was designed to I will not be returning it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HuskerWebhead:
:rolleyes: Oh please. I understand what you're saying, but it's not that Black & White. No, I didn't pay for GPS in my tablet. I didn't even realize it had it until this whole fiasco started. I didn't plan on using it, that hasn't changed. So it's really a non-issue for me. The tablet does what I bought it for, sorry if I don't meet your level of consumer expectations.

You're over-simplifying. Something as complex and with as many varied uses as a tablet, it simply may be a non-issue for many people. I previously bought a laptop with a built in webcam. The webcam didn't work...but everything else in the laptop was exactly what I wanted, and I never planned on doing anything with the Webcam. I've have webcams in two of my other laptops and I haven't used them once in over two years. So no, I don't care if it works or not. It's not what I bought it for.

I understand your frustration, but calling people sheep, etc. because they never cared or planned on using that feature is unwarranted.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mdemirha:
I have a Belkin N router - WPA2-Personal used as the security mechanism. Tried channels 1, 6 and 11 with similar results.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SHRED:
Got a full refund including postage from Best Buy (apart from some wierd 6$ they wouldn't refund me). Best Buy will refund the postage too if the tablet is defective, in my case; pixel errors. They couldn't give me an exchange as they have no idea when they will get one in-store. I really just want another one without dead pixels, now I guess I will order from Amazon? hmmmm
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HuskerWebhead:
All these people who are upset over GPS issues or just plain aren't happy with the Prime should start a thread and sell them to XDA members. Might be easier and quicker for both the parties.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jmt230:
As it turns out, I am not a sheep. GPS does work, I just had to fiddle with it a little bit. I suggest using the GPS with wifi on at first - until it gets oriented, then try with the wifi off and it may work. I also had to allow google's location service - not sure, but this may have disabled the GPS somehow - try that too. If none of it works, then keep it or return it - it's up to you.

Fact is, even if the GPS didn't work out, I never used the GPS in my TF101, and probably would have never noticed it not working if not for the thousands of threads on here complaining about it. You send yours back, get yourself an iPad 2 or whatever you choose, and see if it works 100% out of the box. If not, you should probably send it back and complain some more until they get it perfect to your exact specifications... good luck with that.

Why so self-righteous about this? I am not a passive supporter of corporate greed and disregard, but I prefer to direct my outrage at real issues instead of the stupid GPS on my little tablet. It's just not worth the effort, IMO.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jfranco328:
I had to reconfigure my netgear wireless N 600 to get consistent download speeds. Holding a conecction was never an issue.

I changed my setup to the following

Security set to WPA2-PSK (AES)

Disabled the guest network

Disabled the 5 ghz band, my router does simultaneous broadcast but since the primes wireless does not support 5ghz I disabled it.

After making these changes I was consistently getting 20 mps from Comcast... same results on my laptop and HTC EVO 3d...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jabomb:
My prime started with no problems, but then after rebooting it I noticed minimal light bleed, and 8 dead pixels! Also the back cover is separating from the glass screen near the volume rocker and near the speaker, I called gamestop and they said they will allow me to exchange it for a new one when they get a new shipment in of primes.....anyone else having problems like this?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] the_game_master:
I like your way of thinking, you know how corporate works. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
good idea. maybe a thread should be started with instructions and Asus contact info , and say how to go about this.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jackelbait:
Think the right side where the Glass and Metal meet is coming undone... I can press down on it and it moves but the other sides done

Looks like it coming undone, hate to return it for something minor since i love the device
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chipworkz:
The left side on mine seems a little loose. The tap noise is a little different when I touch the left side of the screen compared to the right. It functions fine but as you said, it seems like it is coming loose. This is the only real problem with mine (except GPS) but I am concerned that there seems to be so many quality control issues being reported on this thing. I am thinking about returning it for an exchange towards the end of the return period to see if things get worse. If ASUS doesn't start addressing some of these issues, I may just return it and wait for one of the other tablets to come out in the next few months.

Mine was shipped on 12/27 from Best Buy by the way.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GCurry:
Returned mine ...

Received mine Dec 28. GPS Fail. Got RMA from Best Buy on Dec 29. Held off sending it back until web had a chance to assess it. Then Asus pulled the GPS spec.

At that point, my impression of Asus brand dropped and I no longer trusted that the product was "finished". I had questions about the design, QA. Also, my trust in reviewers was substantially diminished.

I don't plan to replace the TF right now. Too much bleeding edge for my taste. I will wait for ICS to ship on tablet before considering another. If Costco carries it, that's a plus.

I'm an Android guy, so won't jump to iPad. Asus was competing only with themselves in my book, and they lost that round for me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tylermaciaszek:
lost trust in reviewers because you had faulty device they didn't?

Thank God you returned it we don't need another troll
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GCurry:
I'm no troll. I'm a big Android fan. Been looking forward to getting a Prime, and had read all the domestic sites. Worried about the aluminum backing and antenna problems with Anandtech review.

I've had 3 tablets now, 2 Acer, 1 Asus.

Re: Acer A500s, no one tested the microphone, neither apparently Acer QA, nor reviewers. You could not FIND any review which even spoke to the mic on A500.

I wanted to trust Asus because of the good things people were saying about the TF1. I wanted to trust the reviewers. But the fact is that none of them assessed GPS on Asus TFP, or at least I didn't see any.

The TFP GPS is just like the Acer A500 mic.

I've seen this kind of stuff before, since I ran product marketing for a computer company for about 5 years.

Frankly, I know better, and should have trusted my own judgment. The Asus CEO is a cowboy, pushed too hard. QA didn't finish the job. And reviewers were part of demand creation.

By way of contrast, I got a Galaxy Nexus to replace my OG Droid, while I was waiting for the TFP. It's more finished.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] keitht:
The GPS issue from what I have read and seen so far is when you have no wifi and rely totally on the GPS satellites. Which will be a problem unless you tether the tablet to a cell connection when driving.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n11:
Unfortunately a few folks (including me) have tested tethering to cell wifi and it's not a solution in terms of wifi helping hold a lock. Utilizing a freestanding gps device and linking the TF201 to that does seem to be a fix (not a fix I'd want to use).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] keitht:
I do not plan to use the GPS often on the tablet (never really used it on the Xoom) but I will be disappointed if it does not work properly. This reminds me of the Samsung Galaxy S when they first came out where the GPS was horrible.

My Prime arrives Thursday so we will see. I am more nervous about the wifi personally.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DaRacerz:
I'm fairly happy with my TFP despite GPS woes, but really wasn't my primary purpose. iPhone does an excellent job with that for me. But anyways...

For those of you returning, what is the next best tablet around? From my understanding, this is the only Tab on the market today that has the Tegra 3. Is the next best option the Samsung Galaxy Tab? What about future devices and their timeline? Guess have to wait for CES and find out?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
Not necessarily...

Careful with that. An large number of RMA's may indeed show on the support organizations numbers, and will be seen by execs, but that is EXACTLY the kind of data that caused ASUS to remove the GPS spec from worldwide sites over the last week. The response could be anything, and there is no way to predict or control the influence of screwing with their reporting. I know plenty about support organizations with IBM, Compaq/HP and NetApp, and the end result of these numbers could just as easily hurt consumers, as help them. Also, an "Unused RMA" may cause YOU problems down the road if you actually do need to send your in, as in: "We gave you an RMA, and you never sent it, we are now not going to repair it"

Finally, the best thing is to take care of your own situation, I plan to return mine if there are issues, and wait till Amazon has stock. They have the best return and replacement policy in the business, and I have NEVER had to go through warranty repairs with items I got at Amazon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aimfire72:
I got one from Best Buy, average screen bleed and about 5 dead pixels that I have to really look for. GPS works fine for me indoors. I was willing to overlook that stuff, but I have the problem with the screen freaking out every so often, which can't be good.

Forgot to cancel my pre-order from Tiger Direct and it shipped out yesterday, lol. Should arrive on Tuesday, so I'll compare the two and return the lesser quality one.

Gotta say, I'm pretty disappointed with the QC coming from Asus. No excuse for these screen issues, etc. :/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jackelbait:
Same shipment as mine have until January 14th I think since it was purchased before Christmas they have a 45 day window for returns or some such....

Drinking so adding sucks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] movielover76:
Bought from Newegg, unsure

My GPS doesn't work incredibly well, but with wifi on I can get a 20 foot lock, which is good enough for a tablet, for my purposes, if someone really wants to use it as a GPS I don't blame them for returning, it's just not a big concern of mine.

I don't have any screen or BT issues, tablet is fast and I've had no software issues.

Wifi however is running slow, and that is the only thing that has me concerned, everything else about the tablet has blown me away so I really want to keep it. But when I'm not in the same room as my router I get 1/2 to 1/3 of the speed of other wifi devices, even small ones like my phone.

The only good news I've found in my testing is that when using wifi analyzer, the signal strength on my thunderbolt and the asus prime was the same, also orienting the back and the front towards the router had no effect on speed or signal strength, so I'm not inclined to believe the problem is the metal back, so maybe super crossing my fingers, this is a software problem, that Asus can fix with a patch.

I have 30 days from Newegg, they are good about returns so I'm going to wait it out a little longer and see if Asus can do anything about the wifi speed
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] :
Mine was due to go back Thursday but now that the bootloader will be unlocked and ICS next week I've rang comet and cancled the refund and pick up.

Without root, Android is bland to me. I'm happy as can be right now, good news.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
For giggles, try downloading the same 1GB+ file on the Prime and TB. There's some discussion that while signal speed and strength are good there's some inconsistency in maintaining the signal. If true, you'd see it in a download comparison.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theoilman:
with root and the bootloader issues done, I'm back to thinking I won't cancel my preorder, and will test the hell out of it when it arrives. I'm still semi-inclined to cancel.