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[Galaxy S II General] leoni1980:
If TouchWiz is purely the launcher then I don't particularly dislike it; in fact I think it is quite functional and certainly less bloated than Sense UI. Many people descibe the WHOLE of Samsung's modifications and additions as TouchWiz though, thus anyone who dislikes TouchWiz also dislikes the added codec support and GPU acceleration. This I think is a bit of a fallacy. These are not 'TouchWiz' in my eyes, these are simply Samsung *enhancements* that have no real bearing on the OUTWARD look of TouchWiz, which is the thing Samsung customers know and are familiar with.

My personal dislike is for all the ugly and pointless apps that Samsung puts on there. There is no need for the IM app - there are plenty of better ones on the market; there is no need for all those SNS facebook, Twitter etc account login setups as each now has its own integrated. There is just a ****load of crap that they put on there. Now HTC do something SIMILAR to a certain extent but their apps and enhancements are pretty and nicely designed and therefore kind of forgiveable for that: you don't resent them being permanently there as much!

Samsung have an HORRENDOUS eye for design it seems. Is it REALLY neccessary to persist with dark black backgrounds and garish yellow and cyan colours? Do they really have to use such blocky and sharp boxes with no smoothing of edges or even the vaguest hint of aesthetic charm. I dislike HTC and their poorly tested and designed handsets but I will at least give them credit for their software design. They have an eye for beauty, font design, chromatic balance and subtle detail which surpasses Samsung.

On the positive side, with just a few clever designers Samsung could easily remedy this problem. It might seem insignificant to pull up a company on their aesthetic ethos but aesthetics make a great deal of difference to the user experience. This is why Apple are so successful - people LIKE to have nicely designed things in their hand, and 'nicely designed' extends beyond simply the palpable object itself.
[Galaxy S II General] STEVEN_MCK:
touch whiz is crap end of :L !
[Galaxy S II General] Aincalandorn:
Its not that I hate touchwiz, I hate the launcher. It makes it too much like an iPhone for my liking. Plus the "list" view is a massive joke.
[Galaxy S II General] Visentinel:
I like touchwiz on gingerbread :) the only thing I change is I use launcherpro with the pro key.

I'm on omega Rom with black blue theme and black blue themed HTC IME

sent from I9100 using Omega
[Galaxy S II General] Dhiraj:
Can anyone put a link for TW launcher apk ,I would like test it .

HTC Explorer,android 2.3.5
[Galaxy S II General] simonthor:
I like the touchwiz additions. It's only the Launcher I dislike. Useless compared to everything else.
[Galaxy S II General] knightstalker:
compare touchwiz to ics user interface then say it rocks

Touchwiz on the new android is a downgrade.
[Galaxy S II General] Kailkti:
Lawl I hate ICS, or any other stock interface. XP like everyone else here, we have our own preference.

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[Galaxy S II General] biffsmash:
I've never seen or used a launcher better than touchwiz, current or upcoming, so personally i'll be sticking to TW as it's the most stable and the most lag free imo.

The ICS launcher is ok but I prefer touchwiz. Boring I know lol.
[Galaxy S II General] mrcrassic:
It's a matter of preference. TouchWiz is great for lots of people, Engrish aside (though they've fixed a lot of this, thankfully); it's the best manufacturer UI you can get. Nonetheless, it's not for everyone. Some people love infinite customisability, which TouchWiz really doesn't offer. Other people, like myself, like the stock Android UI. For these people, TouchWiz makes it impossible to fully go back to stock since it's deeply integrated into the system and cannot be completely removed.

I would probably stay with a Samsung stock ROM if I could use the stock interface through and through, since I don't have to worry about issues with drivers and such. But I can't, so I flash Cyanogenmod (thanks, Steve!) and move on with my life.

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MIUI is a themed ROM, but Cyanogenmod is most certainly not. It does use ADW Launcher, which can definitely be changed and/or removed, if you're so inclined. Agreed that it's not as "pure" as the builds used in the Nexus line, but it's significantly closer to AOSP than TouchWiz is.

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I think the CM 7 kernel supports USB OTG and stream to TV; definitely doesn't support Kies Air and the like
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
TW Launcher can be changed or removed as well, that's the first thing I do lol.

Hence my word 'lesser' degree! If they had even just changes statusbar background and they have, it would make it themed, let alone notifications and system enhancements that they have. Agreed as well, much closer to aosp then others.

Anyways, Yours is the best and most sensible post in this whole thread!

Thanks

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[Galaxy S II General] swiftden:
I miss touchwiz and all the conveniences it gave.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Galaxy S II General] Kamigiri:
i agree with your statement but it should look better with newcoming ics roms so samsung should work on it too
[Galaxy S II General] liljom:
In the Contacts I could filter it easily, but when I tried to add contacts to the recepients, I saw all the 700 contacts. And even if there is an option to filter it, why??? You don't send sms to email!

Anyway. I just use Go SMS app.

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As you write. I just didn't want to set the language to english to get the exact menu, as this thread is not that important. But you have to even unplug and replug if it's already pluged.

And it was not fully clear, so you can use the method you just wrote and than you don't need to enable debug, or you need to enable debug and than you can use the notif pulldown, and mount it from there. But the end result is that it's not handy.

I didn't write that luca's ROM is AOSP. I wrote: "I just run GingerMod from luca So I have the lightweight AOSP apps, and working HDMI" - AOSP

apps

Was this part a nice answer from you:

"You had to google to mount internal storage? Scroll 700 contacts to add, what are you? Why couldn't you just start typing contacts name or phone number??? "

or this:

"It's all bs."

or this one:

"Vanilla my ass."

I know what did I experience, and my opinion is, that SGS2 is fantastic (that's why I bought it), it has many very good features, but it's not as easy to use as a Sense ROM.
[Galaxy S II General] Bwwwww:
This. I have tried many roms, but the asop camera sucks compared to the TM camera (as do the cameras in the android market imho)
[Galaxy S II General] rab1412000:
Tw in itself wasn't a bad launcher. But I hate the candy coloured app icons which made my phone look like a child's toy.

And because i couldn't customize such things in tw, I shifted to lp.

I also found tw a tad laggy at times and a little heavy on resources, but nothing i couldn't live with actually (in terms of performance)
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
@liljom

You have to unplug and plug back in only if you're plugged while choosing an option from kies to mass storage. And really only for that first time. Again I don't use it on sgs2 but on sgs once set, you don't have to fiddle with it, ever. If you had prepared setting beforehand you obviously would not have to.

You do know that last 2 of my quotes were not aimed at you? Right? It was just me venting to general public as to how I view this whole debate.

I also apologise to you with the regards to the tone i did reply to you, but you gotta admit, you did come across as uninformed in your post at first and seems we have so many of those lately that everyone's patience is wearing a little thin, from mods to Devs to the rest of us. Again sincere apologies! Peace.

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[Galaxy S II General] dk206:
TouchWiz 4.0 User Interface

and just the

TouchWiz 4.0 Launcher....big difference.

I think most people hated the launcher. But TW4 widgets are awesome. Best out there right now that is including ICS Samsung just has more and indepth. And ICS copied TW4 alot. For those who have had a play with the ICS.

(I've had a 3 day play with ICS on the Nexus S) Missed TW4's widgets and media compatability alot. And also ICS launcher kinda did look kiddie like TW too.
[Galaxy S II General] liljom:
yeah, I'm sure you're better at Samsung devices, as this is my first one, but I use android since a while, and I'm here on xda since a while.

Actually I just passed 1000 posts :)

Anyway.

Have a good day,

peace!
[Galaxy S II General] goyagoyago:
i love touchwiz too! I'm on KP8 right now and even in its beta state, I am liking the little ui tweaks. I do wish they'd give the launcher the ability to auto-sort (organizing is a pain).
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
Lol. Downside of using Tapatalk.

Can't see history, number of posts or thanks in the timeline. Everyone's a noob when using this. O:-)

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[Galaxy S II General] turtleiscool:
YOUR WAY off here

you make no sense?
[Galaxy S II General] blueiii:
I find touchwiz ok. It isn't all that bad. I just don't like the stock lock screen of my sgs2.
[Galaxy S II General] 808Granato:
I agree that its wrong to "hate" touchwiz. It's definitley hard to get used to after you've been using sense for awhile. Which translates to "i hate cuz I'm not good/smooth at it.". I got Sammy gs2 and sensation 4g after my hd2 crapped out. Tried them both, kept the HTC, gave my with the Gs2. I also think the galaxy is a better phone however.
[Galaxy S II General] mr mystery:
I like Touchwiz now after using it on the GS2, and the added extras is just gravy Divx, Xvid, Mkv out of the box, camera software, etc.
[Galaxy S II General] Idan73:
Have you,or do you use Tapatalk. If the answer is no, then no matter if it makes sense to you.

The others more familiar with it will recognise what I said and the connotation with what @liljom said in regards to his history on xda.

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[Galaxy S II General] dk206:
Wow really? For me it is a must as it is also a music widget as well as a lock screen. This is why I can't use any other nice lockscreens like miumiu apps...:(
[Galaxy S II General] blueiii:
I was also deciding between the sgs2 and the sensation xe, went with the sammy coz of performance. I can always change the launcher if ever i didn't like TW. How's the XE by the way?
[Galaxy S II General] leoni1980:
I actually love Sense UI, but HTC's hardware quality is VERY poor. Very slack product testing, which is understandable given how many devices they throw out every year. I can live with Touchwiz because I know I can change it if I need to and still have the best hardware out there....so it's no compromise.
[Galaxy S II General] kureke:
S2 is one of the best phones, but if only option is TW... Maybe if people can just try and choose without rooting and flashing, what to use, maybe then they don't hate it so much.

Lack of options maybe...?

I personally dont hate it, but I don't like it at all, only some functions are useful for me.
[Galaxy S II General] agbemenu:
I believe the hate comes from sgs where tw was slow compared to other launchers. In my opinion tw4 us the best launcher out there. Ics launcher is the only one that comes close
[Galaxy S II General] blueiii:
When i first got my phone and used TW, i was wondering why i read a lot of people hating it.

@agbemenu: maybe you're right, it might be 'coz of the sgs performance of TW.
[Galaxy S II General] adz63:
+1 for hating tw. Its awful

Sent From Fraggle Rock On The Galaxy S2
[Galaxy S II General] Sparksltd:
I like tw. It gives the phone many added handy features. One thing I don't like which is a part of tw launcher and that's how you organize apps and create folders.
[Galaxy S II General] sheep611:
Same. Switching from Sense UI to Touchwiz was a bit of a let down, I was expecting Sammie to really have it nailed...

IMO Touchwiz is far too slow - I could never use the Sammie email widget as it slowed my Tab to a snails pace.

Touchwiz isn't terrible, it just needs some TLC from the Samsung coders...
[Galaxy S II General] naddie:
To OP, I don't know where you're getting that almost everyone hates TW. There are many TW-based custom ROMs out there that's more popular than AOSP-based ones.

I like TW for the scrolling app list (easier than flipping left and right since they are in alphabetical order). It's HW accelerated, so it's fast. It also seem to be better on battery than other launchers (probably due to being HW accelerated).

And if you use the camera for anything more than a glancing shot, you don't really have a choice but to stick with TW. There's simply no Camera/Camcorder two-in-one app in the market. GB AOSP's camera app sucks, as do the Calendar and SMS/MMS.

To me ICS AOSP is almost like TW. It has it's pros, but there are still a few things TW does better. But for the most part, stock ICS launcher closed the gap, and I don't see a need for TW anymore.

And the biggest thing I hate about TW are the icons and overall look/theme. Thankfully it can be themed. I don't understand why they decided to leave the Google Sync status (icons change colors when sync'd) out of their ROMs. It's very useful to know when you're getting an active internet connection and syncing!

Also, who decided it was a good idea to wake people up when the battery is fully charged?

And no way to quiet the camera functions (focus, taking photo/video, etc).

Also, no touch to focus while recording video (still a complaint of mine for ICS, too).

TW also seem to have a bug where it needs to reload or refresh icons every so often. That wouldn't be a huge issue except that the dock icons are different for about 5-10 seconds! And they aren't just different icons, but different apps! If I hit the icon where the phone icon used to be, it would actually launch the app the icon represented, not the phone!

Little issues here and there, fixed by tweaks (except for the camera, which a coat of paint won't fix).
[Galaxy S II General] B3311:
I have no strong feelings either way about Touchwiz.
[Galaxy S II General] leonaqx:
its ugly! that's why
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
People on the internet love to be negative just to appear as if they know a thing or two, as if they're an expert on the matter. Don't pay any attention to the negative nancies and the trolls around here, this is a good device and has good, smooth and functional software on it.
[Galaxy S II General] nit3hawk:
I like most of TouchWiz features except for contact search. I wish future upgrade should include the ability to search on other fields like email, note, company, etc.
[Galaxy S II General] BigMrB:
appzorter is good for TW - but i still don't use it
[Galaxy S II General] stylez:
Its not tweakable enough.... rather like sense on HTC devices....

Go launcher all the way...

Sent from the valley of the shadows....
[Galaxy S II General] GIR:
If you're looking for bells and whistles and eye candy then tw surely isn't for you. But tw is clean, efficient and good at what it does.
[Galaxy S II General] blarkus:
Gotta say. I hate touchwiz. I'd never buy a Samsung again that has it.
[Galaxy S II General] Sergio_O:
I used TW for some time... Now, when new ICS builds came in I fell in love with ICS native launcher lol
[Galaxy S II General] CandyAndy:
Touchwiz looks ugly as hell. They should make it look more modern. There are some nice functions must admit that. But still Go Launcher has much better functions for every day use.

And after trying ICS I almost cried when had to go back to Touchwiz (still too many problems with ICS)
[Galaxy S II General] adem_7:
I ditched TW Launcher on the first day upon receiving my SGS 2. I don't like the looks, and never could really warm up to it.

On the other hand, enhancements that Samsung built into the phones are the main reason I always go back to stock, in spite of trying few custom. In my view, there simply isn't any better alternative to video codecs, widgets and other functions coming with stock.

I alternate between SPB Shell 3D and ADW. Though neither of them fully implement all widgets, while some are implemented only partially.

Slapping TW on top of ICS is a major letdown, really. New software should also be about new looks, and on the outside, this looks almost completely like GB. A thing that's been nagging me a lot right from the start, and does not seem to have changed with ICS, is the fuzzy contact pictures when syncing with gmail. That's really a minor thing persisting for almost four years now, without a proper solution.

For Sense haters, new Sense 3.5 beats TW or lots of other launchers for looks, functionality and awesomeness (thanks Kung Fu Panda).

Finally, to each his own.
[Galaxy S II General] KGNTSTNY:
Thanks for sharing! Now i know i can swipe left/right to message or call users in call log/contacts.
[Galaxy S II General] stylez:
Yes it's good at what it does but don't most want better :D:p
[Galaxy S II General] Kailkti:
Better in what? Looks or functionality? Sure looks is cliched but functionality is more or less on par with others.

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[Galaxy S II General] karendar:
Touchwiz features in themselves are pretty nice and fun to have. The touchwiz launcher looks like an iphone. I didn't sign up for an iphone, I signed up for a droid phone. ;) So I ditched the launcher but kept a modded stock ROM.
[Galaxy S II General] ste1164:
It doesnt really look like an iPhone imo. Touchwiz 3 kinda did but i wouldnt say touchwiz 4 does.
[Galaxy S II General] NataRatero:
IMO the worst part of TouchWiz.. are the icons, they look blatantly bad (vibrant color squares, not good..)

but it's easily fixed with a good theme. Tried going with lots of launchers but always went back, because its the smoothest UI experience as far as i know.
[Galaxy S II General] nathsgames:
Except if you have nearly 10 pages of Apps that are not in alphabetical order, like me, and you are trying to find something :-/

Would is be THAT hard to allow apps to be sorted alphabetically, LIST mode doesn't count, that just plain sucks.

Even with 4.03, TW is still as disorganised as ever.
[Galaxy S II General] bunch7:
They are still trying to retain the original looks & feel of TW from gingerbread to ICS.

IMHO, that is a big no no!

ICS AOSP is unleashing the true nature of Android
[Galaxy S II General] biffsmash:
I like touchwiz, but yesterday I had a play with a Galaxy Nexus for the first time, and have to say, although it could well be that the screen on the Nexus is so much better than the SGS2, but stock ICS is gorgeous. Never realised how nice from the video reviews.

With that said, the only issue I have with touchwiz is the apps being sorted randomly in the app trays, alphabetic is the way to go.
[Galaxy S II General] GameSlim:
I've already tried several different launchers, even the paid ones, but touchwiz offers more options, more shortcuts, easier way to do stuff you'd do everyday.

As for the apps being sorted randomly, i think a better way is for Touchwiz to add a built-in option to sort alphabetically, most used, recently added, and custom.
[Galaxy S II General] datsunboy:
touchwiz is pretty cool, I do like it, but theres a few things about it that just dont work for me, and the only way to fix it is to use a different launcher.

You'd think theyd change it in 4.0.x, as otherwise you'd barley notice the difference once upgraded from stock GB to stock ICS.....except the faceunlock ,

samsung are just updating all their current apps to work with 4.0, they arent changing anything......BORING
[Galaxy S II General] SAlmighty:
Screw touchwiz, i'm the wiz-not my phone!

Hell No!--I WANT VANILLA ICE CREAM SANDWICH! YUM! :mad:
[Galaxy S II General] MarkyD_UK:
I'll endorse touchwiz as a whole too - especially the text messaging app and email, along with the video codecs. I'm not a fan of the launcher - simply because i like 5 dock icons and gesture support so i can keep my home screen clean. LauncherPro or Go Launcher Ex are my standard replacements.
[Galaxy S II General] AIways:
I have nothing against touchwiz. However I am more of a curious person so I like to try new launcher such as ice cream sandwich. I'm pretty sure majority of the people are curious and want to try something base on its look first than its function. The hate is just base on the hype imo.

Im read a lot of comment is that many people dislike touchwiz because many envy the 5 dock short cuts. And that people expect newer launcher such as ICS to be better. The newer the better so they tend to join and hate the old touchwiz
[Galaxy S II General] MrAndroid12:
Touchwiz 4.5 is great!, nice features and doesn't have the iPhonish look.
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
As much as i love touchwiz, i have to say, it doesn't go well with ICS.. Nova and Trebuchet launcher all the way :D
[Galaxy S II General] aydc:
The best thing about Touchwiz for me is the calendar. Trying out the new ICS builds with Google's calendar app, I realized how much I like the Touchwiz version. For me, no other calendar is as good, including pro apps like Pocket Informant.
[Galaxy S II General] :
You might as well add Go Launcher in those choices as that is pretty sweet so far with it..:) and i am sure with future updates it can only get better
[Galaxy S II General] lobr1:
Oh I really like the ICS calender app. Smooth and sleek. Never got on with Samsung's....
[Galaxy S II General] ab.riyami:
With it comes to Gingerbread, i reckon Touchwiz is really really good and slick.

but when i checked out the leaked version for ics, i feel it murders the ics experience,

now that ive got the resurrection 7.4 ics....im really enjoying the UI and features, one thing i miss is ability to put folders in the app drawer, that was very useful for me (the easiest way to hide some apps) but its not a secure hiding method ofcourse lool
[Galaxy S II General] :
i think it would be best to judge ICS with touchwizz when it is officially released. then we can actually know what changes have been made and how smooth and slick it actually runs..but as for touchwiz on gingerbread i can not have any complaints. but made the leap to Go Launcher and i am loving it:D
[Galaxy S II General] anishtrip:
TW is kind of restricting..........we need more freedom
[Galaxy S II General] themadba:
Touchwiz looks terrible imho, I was glad when screenshots of ICS were released, and then we find out that Samsung is going to ruin it with their Touchwiz nonsense again!

Looks like I'll be flashing a custom ROM very soon...
[Galaxy S II General] randy.turker:
I dont hate touchwiz mate, i just hate the toucwiz ui

Hha

Sent from my ass
[Galaxy S II General] EARNEST_EU:
I am new to Android and Galaxy S II, and currently on the 2.3.4 version.

I like TouchWiz launcher, yet, the only thing that bothers me is that I am unable to modify the quick panel; more specifically, the 2 redundant shortcuts: Phone and People...Why would I need two almost identical shortcuts, damn it? :)
[Galaxy S II General] Yarox:
I guess after a while people get bored with it and inevitably upgrade. MIUI's interface suits me the best for now.
[Galaxy S II General] dorian95:
You can modify it! Just open appdrawer(applications icon), then click on your settings button, and then you can see that you can actually changing shortcuts.
[Galaxy S II General] aranab:
I've had my s2 since December and for me touchwiz was good initially. However after having ICS (westcrip's rom) on it for a while I know I won't go back to touchwiz
[Galaxy S II General] EARNEST_EU:
Oh...:eek: thanks a lot. I've tried Go series widgets with its Launcher. Did not like it that much, apart from customizable App Drawer menu and its Go Locker ICS theme. However, the later caused some problems.