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[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattlgroff:
"You are receiving this email in response to your inquiry to the FCC.

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Thank you.

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] mauri121:
me sumo a esta gran peticion
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DunDun215:
Operation OPMOSH is a great idea, I've been doing my part. Found articles and forums related to the bootloader drama and bumped them with links to the petition. I've tweeted and made facebook comments.

While I have a fondness for VZW and MOTO; I agree with someone that posted earlier that both should be listed in petitions and/or complaints. Not sure how to get more people involved. Don't have news contacts and I don't want to see this fade away.

This site has over 4 million registered members, if a fourth of them signed the petition, it would be over by now!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Milt75:
I'm assuming that petition signing is restricted by IP, right? Well, there you have a clue.

EDIT: It is not restricted by IP, it is restricted by saved cookies in your PC. Better than before.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
zomg!!!!!!!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1437040&page=2
[Motorola Droid RAZR] PillClinton:
Great work so far everyone, keep the momentum going!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
Check the link I posted! ASAP!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
I'm so hoping that it is true
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattlgroff:
Yup. Spanish Razr with unlocked bootloader. He got it on Thursday and when he tried to fastboot got the screen "Unlocked"
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
Egggggxaactly! Now all we gotta do is patiently wait for him. Then flash his BL into ours and voila!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] floridaboy69:
This would be really good news if it were my f*cking atrix 2, I don't give a flying f*ck about Verizon or razrs or droids or what ever the hell it is.

If this whole thing goes away because Verizon users got their diapers changed and I'm stuck with a sh*t phone for the next 3 or so years I'm going postal.

Sorry if I'm sounding like a butthurt 8 year old, but I fear the worst on my end.....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fargles:
I feel your pain! Except I have a droid x2 and nothing is changing on my end. We want ALL moto phones to be unlocked not just one, in a different country and possibly by accident...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] floridaboy69:
Thats what I'm saying, I'm sorry but spain is just a spec of the demographic.

I guess we'll see if any of our own do anything at CES, we get an announcement, or google just goes back 2 years at least when the buy out is done and gives us some debugging tools or something we can work with :/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Milt75:
Could this be useful for other Motorola phones with locked bootloaders (Say D3 or Milestone 3)?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
I don't think so. As of now nothing can be said. Even the RAZR's fate hangs in balance.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] MyNarwhalBacon:
I have some doubts. The phone comes unlocked from Moto, I fear that there will be limitations on their "unlocked" phone. His version of the booloader is GSM based, while it may be useful to international users, us American's who are stuck on antiquated CDMA networks will likely not see any benefit (at least anytime soon). I maybe wrong, I hope I am wrong. If it was a Atrix, Bionic, or D3 we would also have a better chance.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Darksurf:
Why cant I sign the petition? It says I cannot leave the city box blank, and I'm not. It has something in it, but claims its empty. I've refreshed the page and everything and its not working...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
just went to spam Moto's page on FB... They disabled comments as of at least 30 ago.

Well, we must be pissing someone off if they did that. :) SPAM TWITTER!

they also disabled the ability to "like" and comment.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Hiii fudge nuckin 5
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
Guess it waS just me.. Aw well, Least I was heard:D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
For all who dont know. Since this thread is great but i think we need to take that next step. Im creating a website called OperationMOSH. My goal for this site is to inform people on what motorola is doing and why its not right. Also to inform those who do not know what a bootloader is and to generally inform people of the goal. Is that cool with everyone. Im also going to see about advertising on the site raise some$$ so maybe we can get a whole bunch of people to petition the moto headquarters building or somthing idk so yes.if anyone wants to help please send me an email. Cameron@droid-bible.com
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fargles:
really? I am still able to comment and like and such
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cheekrox:
I made a group on FB, pls join.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/223718017709338/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tendyfish:
juss signed!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fargles:
there's already a FB group for this cause... https://www.facebook.com/unlockmoto
[Motorola Droid RAZR] TenderloinShadow:
Did it all

I called Verizon. Filed FCC complaint. emailed everyone on that list of people from Motorola. Spammed Facebook. Keep the cause going. I'm a loyal Droid X user, and I've gone from Liberty to CM7 Froyo to CM7 GB to EncounterICS. I love ROMs, I hate the locked bootloader. It's about time the OEMs started supporting the community that drives their bottom line.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wooooowwe:
Download link?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] reachking:
Hey guys, please keep trying...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] I_EAT_BABIES:
Go to Motorolas Wikipedia article, I can't post links for some dumb reason.

Someone PLEASE elaborate on the post I added to their Wikipedia page. It is very short and lacks a lot of background on the subject, I just wanted to get it started.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bebeau25:
I just signed the petition. The razr is my first moto phone, and will probably be my last if they don't unlock it. I came from an HTC evo, and had flashed many roms on it. The amount of attention that the evo gets still amazes me. Kind of missing it right now:(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xaero252:
God I hope this thing doesn't die on me... I need more flexibility out of my device (Bionic)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DunDun215:
Read this crap:

informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/232400165

Cut and pate in your own browser, I haven't made enough posts to add outside links yet.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pswin09:
Hey guy I cannot sign petition & can't open the link from OP, not only on mobile but also on computer. BYW I am from Singapore.

Keep go on guy...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
Motorola ended up "unliking me' so I had to re "like" they also must have marked me as spam. They deleted all my posts and I am no longer allowed to post on their page. I know I was heard. :D

I have been reading multiple comments on how they are now deleting bootloader questions. Someone is aware of what we want but they still choose to ignore us.

I wonder since google purchased Moto, we can file complaints with the heads of google to MAKE them kick out the unlock too.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
I bet you we could file complaints haha. Also since google purchased moto its only a matter of time before they do. Google is open source how could google the maker of android open source not own a company that doesnt support open source
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1441060

Read this eveyone devs especially
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fargles:
At the earliest the deal won't actually go through until about the end of the year, so filing these complaints against Google would do nothing because they have no control over what Motorola does. we just need to get a big enough following/bad press and they will give in
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Not against google with google
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Proda:
Signed the petition!!! Posted link on FB, spamed Moto FB page...Well, now we can just w8...

Or spam more?! :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] omeomyo:
More spam
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dondavis007:
We have to keep on trying ...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
Spam enough like me and get banned from posting on their page and unliked
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Semseddin:
I keep spamming in their facebook pafe.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Albinoman:
That's what happened to me.

Sent from my EncounterICS droid 2
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DeadChex:
I've heard a lot of talk on the Google buying Motorola. I hope Google does help the OPMOSH cause, but I'm questioning if their just in it for the Patent profile...

Anyways I figured I'd mention a LONG time ago I posted on Moto Dev about the bootloaders, I got a response from their admin (Don't get your hopes up)

He replied with....

Thanks for your question about unlocked phones and bootloaders. As you know, we've made available device images for the XOOM at developer(DOT)motorola(DOT)com/products/software

In terms of other devices, we don't have any new information to share at this time but we'll keep you in the loop with any news on this important topic.

We definitely understand your needs to develop on Motorola Mobility Android devices and will forward on your request to the team responsible for making those decisions.

-Randy

I asked for a Follow up to no avail (both in forum and PM) I know he's seen my messages, but MOTO is STILL COVERING THEMSELVES.

But I'll keep you updated.

My Post:

community(DOT)developer.motorola(DOT)com/t5/Off-Topic-Posts/Help-the-Developers-and-Android-lovers-Motorola-Unlock-the/td-p/19253

(Make some noise on it if you like, make it hard to ignore ;))
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
HMM can anyone get proof as in show that motorola is covering there butt about the bootloader issue? I ask because i have an idea. If we could use operation mosh to instead of saying we want the bootloaders unlocked everyone sign a petition, we could say motorola is lying and covering them themselves up. They made an announcements and promises they did not keep. And use the bootloaders as an example. I think not only can we convince more people that motorola treats there consumers with lies but that the company lies and makes will continue to cover there lie up and actually provide proof maybe we could make it higher up on the media spectrum.

Use this thread as our headquarters and still get people to sign but do more damage nethoughts on this. We wouldnt spin as a slandering more as an informative story
[Motorola Droid RAZR] davwman:
wow, thanks for the headache^^^ Either way the whole thing is a joke. every other manufacturer is unlocking bootloaders, and there are no network security issues. Moto blames carriers, and the carriers blame moto. Both sides need to get there heads out of there asses, especially moto with their insane hardware with potential.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Seee now this makes sense to i just learned not sure how true but i guess verizon gives all the carriers big advertising subsidies. Samsung and htc gave those up in unlocking the bootloaders i guess motorola cant " afford" to give those subsidies up. Becuase there not in the financial state to do so. I realize they could unlock the other devices outside of the network. But if thats true we wont see. An unlocked bootloader for verizon till.motorola is officially owned by google. which is total bs.

ALSO this is not a joke so seriously if ur going to spread doubt and negativity please no one wants u in this thread. Motorola will give yes we need to give the bad pr n they will have no other option. I think we have reached a climax and thus need to take this in a next step kind of direction. But its not a joke. In anyway
[Motorola Droid RAZR] royale1223:
Another crazy way would be to sue Moto for it. Dot we have the right to modify our own phones? After all its our private property - they sold it, we bought it. There could be two scenarios.

LEGAL BATTLE

1) We would win and moto forced to unlock bootloaders. It won't happen in USA for sure. But if it's being done in a comm. country like china which favors consumers over MNCs, we may even win. Moto cannot afford to loose a huge market like china. Also consider that china hates Google, and that Google has almost bought Moto.

2) We fail. Even then It will get a lot of media attention. I dont think Moto will even dare to enter in a legal battle with consumers. It will spoil their rep. They will probably go for a compromise. That means an unlocked bootloader.

So it's a win-win situation. What are we waiting for?

MEDIA ATTACK

Yet another way would be to launch a full on media attack. Flooding Moto forums or emails is too soft. If we really really need an unlocked boot-loader we should take it to a whole new level. Call up all the newspapers/news channels in your country. Tell them about the campaign on change.org. We've got above 4000 votes now, haven't we? I'm sure it'll make a pretty interesting article. Lets make Moto embarrassed. Let them know the pain. Good luck.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
As good as an idea az that is....its also. Bad idea. Motorola has enough money for 20 lawyers. Motorola would prolong the case by the time all is said and done we would either win and be in debt up to our knees from lawyer bills all for an unlocked phone or wed lose bc moto pays people off orjust wins. Then were in major debt with lawyer fees and court fees. Unless u have millions to waste its not a good idea for ur average joes
[Motorola Droid RAZR] schale01:
Yeah I just don't buy that. I own a Photon on Sprint's network. I know that Sprint has spent very little on any sort of marketing/subsidies and yet the phone remains locked. I don't know of one Motorola phone on any US Carrier that has an Unlocked bootloader. Motorola says they are committed to unlocking bootloaders yet none have been unlock? Doesn't sound like much of a commitment to me.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Understand im not contesting this being motos fault. I know this is motos fault. Bc they could unlock phones outside of verizons carrier. But first verizon is 12 fold what sprint is. Sprint doesnt do alot of advertising for manufacturing purposes. Now verizon does alot in the way of advertising for moto. Id bet u its millions they get paid from verizon so for verizon customers i can see why we wont see it till google officially owns moto. Thats a huge loss for moto in terms of financial reasons. Samsung and htc didnt get to much in the way of advertising from verizon so. But we willl seee
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
Has anyone tried calling?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] schizo:
Hi guys. Just a thought.

Maybe, just maybe, we have to consider doing "diversion attack". Since GOOG already bought MOTO, why not we... ALSO attack the mighty EL GOOG himself?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
For the one hundredth time. GOOGLE HAVE NOT BOUGHT MOTOROLA! They are planning to, but deal like this take many months to complete.

Sent from my very clever phone
[Motorola Droid RAZR] davwman:
#OPMOSH is hitting motos mobility twitter page hard. The more the better, get over there and join us.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Actually google already PAID FOR MOTOROLA. THE TRANSACTION IS COMPLETE. ALL thats left is paperwork and a transitioning of the company. So
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Proda:
Maybe it would be cool if all 866,733 people (or just half of them) who liked Moto page on FB unlike it in one day...:D

That would be awesome.

Keep spaming it till that happens :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] oddbubble:
I don't no how we would go about it.

But what if we could get support from a gadget site, and see if they would pull all moto reviews off there site temporally or cross them out then hopefully others will follow

This is only a idea but I have no idea what I would write or who to.

To try and get something like this to happen
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
No. They have to wait on approval from the DOJ and a bunch of regulatory departments still.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] TenderloinShadow:
Google-Rola

Hopefully the DOJ will approve this merger. They should, because Google and Motorola are in fields that are complimentary but also quite different, so it shouldn't have any major impact on competition. It'll also make Motorola much more open to our concerns, I would hope.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
I filed a complaint with the BBB bureau too and received a call from executive relations office. They called me only to tell me they would call me in a few days. WTF
[Motorola Droid RAZR] royale1223:
As I can see you didn't get my point. It doesnt matter if we win or loose. We only need a single lawer and like 50 depositios. A lawsuit with good media attention could hurt motorola sales more than you could imagine. They think it's not profitable to unlock bootloaders. Let's make it profitable for them. Like in if they don't they will suffer a huge lose. I hope you understand me.

And I also think you underestimate us. We are the consumers. We are the ones who actually control the markets. But to acheive this goal sitting before a pc and typing away won't do. We gotta stand up and fight. We gotta organize more. I still think this is the easiest and cheapest way that could ensure us unlocked bootloaders. Guys, what do you think?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] schizo:
Of course, the actual condition only can be known by the top execs of the two company, right? Me and you only rely on news, last time i checked it should be finished early 2012 ;)

But anyway you look at it, this deal haven't got the most "scrutinized" process such as in the case of AT&T vs T-Mo, right? Ot at least, the news ain't say so. So most probably it will went through, i guess.

Yet, the condition that it's still in progress may enforce our intention. Why, because the failure case of AT&T acquiring T-Mod had cost them zillions of $ lost. It's a high stake game for EL GOOG and MOTO, if only we can "leverage the stake" a lil bit.

Again, just a thought. Don't be too hard on me :p
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
I got you point u didnt get mine i said its a GOOD IDEA but not because of cost. If theres someone whos got the money and wants to do it thats great. Read and get my points please.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] got556:
Signed the petition....locked bootloaders are was is keeping me from buying a Xyboard 8.2 ATM....

---------- Post added at 01:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:57 AM ----------

Look, I appreciate your drive and motivation for this. I am not asking for perfect grammar, but honestly, you could at least try to use SOME proper grammar.

That's probably why so many are misunderstanding you...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
No offense man but u are kind of being a yeah with the whole "grammer" any one who is competent can understand clearly what im saying try actually reading. This isnt highschool its a forum so lets get BACK ON the subject
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dondavis007:
Please...

This is a international forum on the Internet. You think some parts of, say, Europe just woke up and spoke fluent last Friday?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Thank you
[Motorola Droid RAZR] globed:
Oh from what i understood they already made the transaction.. hmm oh well i stand correccted
[Motorola Droid RAZR] frankyvee:
Petition Signature Update

4,704 signatures as of today 14 Jan 2012...... Keep it going....!!!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] benefit14snake:
Nice!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattlgroff:
Cool thread on Verizon asking them about it. Reply with support
[Motorola Droid RAZR] singlesword:
If motorola doesn't unlock the bootloader this will be my last motorola device since it seems like they are doing a apple theme of having the battery not being able to be removed which is a bad idea in the first place in my opinion
[Motorola Droid RAZR] royredman:
Hey, I don't know if anyone has seen this, but maybe we can continue on this motorola petition. It already has 11,000 signatures

http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] deadmanjokes:
i don't get it, why this important pettion only get 3 stars rate....?

cmon guys, we need to show Moto (and verizon maybe) how we REALLY wanted our device to be unlocked!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
I encourage not to just file FCC complaints, but also with the BBB.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] TBacker:
Just FYI -

Unfortunately, the FCC doesn't typically get involved in issues beyond spectrum use and interference.

There is a decent article on androidpolice about how locked bootloaders don't fall within any FCC use guidelines.

We should be looking toward PSC's and other consumer relations agencies.

That said, being a minority of users, albeit vocal and valid, we are definitely on an uphill battle. It's difficult to impossible to get through to Motorola to fix known problems, let alone force them to voluntarily unlock their devices.

They're "too big to care"...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] davwman:
^^^samsung and htc are just as big and they care
[Motorola Droid RAZR] TBacker:
Let me rephrase...

Their attitude is that they don't have to care. Sales are fine with the locked loaders.

Plus Motorola seems to have a superiority complex vibe about them - like, "why should we let amateurs who can't possibly know what they're doing touch our beautiful OS?"

I hope they prove me wrong, but I'm just going to get comfortable with my rooted / debloated, but still Moto, phone.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
http://twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/152777841434574848
[Motorola Droid RAZR] davwman:
there os is hardly Htc Sense. Nothing spectacular about motoblur. I made the stupid mistake of leaving the unlocked htc side thinking my bionic would have been unlocked by now, because moto said it would.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
From the Motorola Europe Facebook page:

Simon M-b

Are you going to carry on ignoring your customers request for an unlocked bootloader. I know you have said " we will let you know (etc.etc.) But how difficult is it to give us a date? In my 30+ years in business I have never known a company that steadfastly ignores it's customers (aka lifeblood!) Do so at your own risk.

Like · · 22 hours ago ·

4 people like this.

Motorola Europe Hey Simon, we really appreciate you posting and assure you that we listen to all your comments and feedback. Unfortunately, we’re not in a position to comment on Bootloader at the moment, but we will as soon as we can. Thanks.

47 minutes ago · Like

"Not in a position to comment on Bootloader at the moment"!!!!!

What the bloody hell does that mean?

So they give us a comment saying that they can't comment.

Are these people politicians?

These guy's must be very dizzy with the amount of spinning going on.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] soulREBEL360:
TSON,

The tweet was from Dec 30 ... must be one hell of a talk. What "government" are they referring to?