yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Indeed. Mike provided img files from both RUUs. I'm pretty sure it's safe to mix and match, since we ran 1.73 RUUs on normal Senny, but wouldn't recommend risking it just in case. But there is always a brave one ... LOL Who is it gonna be this time?
[HTC Sensation] piplewis:
I've already followed the steps as in mike1986's thread and all went well, but what is the benefit of reverting to 1.17 HBOOT?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Advanced fastboot commands
[HTC Sensation] Hawke84:
nice work on the thread mate, do you want to include a note that mikes files will update the radio too, just make sure everyone is clear on what is updates
[HTC Sensation] aNYthing24:
Does it improve performance noticeably? I'm just a bit overwhelmed, sorry.
[HTC Sensation] jjdoctor:
So there will be no possibility of downgrading the radio?...our i have to revert to 1.17 to flash older radios?

I have 10.56 and i m satisfied with it...
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
You can still do it via PG58 update, but not via fatboot flash radio radio_image_name.img
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
I want to try this so bad, but I am scared as heck! What do we need to know before doing this? Such as, what do we risk other than an all out brick? Will we be able to go back to what we have now?

Matt
[HTC Sensation] ziggy1001:
Direct link with MD5

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20681060&postcount=22
[HTC Sensation] mrg02d:
Looks like it worked for me. I am restoring a ROM right now. After that, ill revert back to the previous bootloader. So far, so good!

So now, where do you guys see the improvements?

Matt
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
I am getting ready to flash it, but I did supercid by the method in the sticky-noted post near the top of the Sensation forums.

[Guide] to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on
[HTC Sensation] hsnmz:
Does your bootloader screen show **locked** in pink color ?
[HTC Sensation] jjdoctor:
Yes it shows Locked in pink... My hboot is now 1.20

My radio didn't upgrade... I still have 10.56....

I flashed it over Ultimite ROM... i thought it will erase my ROM but nothing changed....:-/

It flashed everything but showed cid error in last one... I don't know what was it....

So now i have to go back to 1.17, supercid using adb and fish 1.20 again?

I supercid using terminal emulator... I guess that didn't work...
[HTC Sensation] Catnap:
Wait, what?!

You tried to SuperCID via Terminal Emulator, while the phone was running? oO

What's wrong with following the instructions in the stickied guide and using adb?
[HTC Sensation] jjdoctor:
Never in my life i used adb stuff... :-/

never tried to learn it either... But i guess i have to learn it now..

Now tell me what to do?

should i download hboot 1.17, flash it and then reflash 1.20 after supercid?
[HTC Sensation] jmcdonald58:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 this is the thread I have followed time and time again with success step 4 is to do cid
[HTC Sensation] daddyspud:
is this firmware just relevent to ics roms or can it be used on 3.0/3.5 roms??????
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Oh, so it does replace the recovery. It just replaces it with what I've already got?

That's easy enough!

Also, that is a VERY good personal policy. :D As you can see my personal policy is to make sure I know exactly what my action will (or should) do before I start so I won't be surprised and I'll know if something went wrong.

How hard is it to make a PM58IMG for flashing? Can I unpack this file and swap out the parts with other things? For example, can I replace the stock splash with my Batman logo splash, rezip the file, and flash it? Or will that create all kinds of wonky issues? Does it have to be repacked in a specific way? (I know, it's kind of a moderate noobish question. Bear with me. I've never done that before)
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Alright...stupid question....how do you know if the firmware was successfully updated?

I flashed the update. Everything looked like it was updating properly in the bootloader. The splash screen changed. The baseband version is changed from 10.whatever to 11.whatever. Is all that enough to know that it worked?
[HTC Sensation] newbieandroid:
Well I did this last week and 4.0.3 isn't running smoothly and I would like to flash back to the T-Mobile RUU but it keeps giving me an error saying "the rom update utility cannot update your android phone" is this because I have this firmware on it? and if so how would I be able to get back to T-Mobile stock
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Are you superCID?

Skipjack, yeah, all good.
[HTC Sensation] HURRIDOG:
Hello, on my Sensation Xe actually I’m using ICS 4.0.1 Insertcoin 4.0.6, so I have hboot 1.20 and 3.06.401.101. I don’t have Supercid and I will don’t want to do this. I will want to came back to Insertcoin 3.4.6 with Gingerbread 2.3.5 (that I have done previously a nandroid backup). To return to Insertcoin 3.4.6, do I have to revert the hboot to 1.17 version (with the file that "ziggy1001" have posted) and then restore nandroid backup? Can I do this without Supercid or before I had to do Supercid? If before I had to do Supercid, can I do Supercid on 3.06.401.101? My cid is HTC__203.

Thanks a lot.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Yes,you can revert to 3.4.6 without downgrading firmware. But, if you decide to revert to 1.17 hboot you will HAVE to superCID. You can superCID on 120 hboot.

It looks like superCID is quite handy for Sensation anyway, as we have about 3 or 4 different models going around including XE.
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Hey thanks for your help yesterday!

Everything worked out fine. I had a minor heart attack after flashing the firmware when it hung on the splash screen and wouldn't boot.....but a quick reinstalation of my nandroid backup through recovery solved everything.

Should that have been needed? Or did something go wonky?

Either way it all worked great after the firmware update. ICS booted smoothly...but I wasn't overly impressed. I immediately missed the complete control of Cyanogen and went back to CM7 as a daily driver until I have a CM9 option. But at least I can spin CM9 right up now when it comes out!
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Lol, no worries. You are talking to sense fan here, so cant comment on cm stuff (meh :)).

As long as there were no fails in bootloader while flashing, its all good.

Oh, and there are some very good desensenised roms with some sense goodies available.
[HTC Sensation] HURRIDOG:
Thanks Tinky1 for your answer and excuse me but I had to need a confirm.

Do you confirm me that from ICS 4.0.1 Insertcoin 4.0.6 to come back to Insertcoin 3.4.6 based on Girngerbread 2.3.5, I can do only restore of nandroid backup without problem?

So, I will came back to Gingerbread and hboot remain 1.20. After this, if I want hboot 1.17 I had to do Supercid and reflash the PG58IMG.ZIP file that "ziggy1001" have posted on this link http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20681060&postcount=22? But is this file ok in Gingerbread to revert into hboot 1.17 too?

Please can you confirm me this?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
All correct :)
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
If I can't have my status bar on the bottom.....I can't survive the day.

It's one of those goofy little quirks about me. I love it down there!

So it's CM all day everyday for me unless anyone knows of another ROM that allows that.
[HTC Sensation] vincedoggy:
After flash this if I want to restore back to my 2.3.3 back up on my SD card, can anyone tell me it work or I will stuck at this. Thank in advance.
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
The Gingerbread ROM should still work.
[HTC Sensation] vincedoggy:
Thanks for reply I just want to make sure b4 flashing .
[HTC Sensation] thatoneguy808:
Hi this is a noob post. :( So I flashed the firmware in Virtuous inquisitor's ics rom thread then the rom and the bootloader went to 1.23. I was wondering if it was safe to revert back to 1.17 without changing vq ics rom? Will there be problems with an ics rom if I revert back or do I have to go back to a non ics rom?

I think before I did s-off and super cid my bootloader was 1.18.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
No 4.0.3 based Rom works on hboot lower than 1.23. Read q&a in OP
[HTC Sensation] thatoneguy808:
ok thank you. I'll stick with then. I may switch back to non ics rom later though.
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
no problems what so ever with new firmware :))
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Nice to hear it helped. :)

Me help- you thank, you help- me thank.
[HTC Sensation] KingP1n:
Tinky1,

I flash the latest fw to 3.06/hboot 1.23 and also have the latest radio (11.65) w/ matching ril (released by Omar). I tried ics but went back to GB. I done research on the new radio and read of battery drainage so I'm still testing it. However if I want to revert to my old radio/ril (10.56/.169) is compatible with this new fw??? I know ill have to put the pg58 zip to my sd but wanted to ask the question 1st....

Thanks for the guide....I'm on tmous btw....
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
If you want to flash different.radio you have to downgrade hboot first, see OP. The rest of the firmware should be compatible. So, downgrade hboot (you need superCID for.that), and flash another radio, job done.

I really hope someone can unlock current hboot to use with advanced commands.

Actually, I'm not sure wherever new hboot will allow you to flash radio via pg58, but I do know for sure commands from and to flash stuff don't work.

If you do want to downgrade all firmware just for the sake of it, superCID and flash your stock ruu, then run revolutionary again (or just root if you know how), install custom recovery, and happy flashing to you. :)
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
I changed my CID yesterday from Super to T Mobile and back to Super using fastboot with HBoot 1.23 and the new firmware.

Is that normal to be bale to do that?

Also....if I downgrade the HBoot to 1.17 in order to change radios, can I still run ICS? Or do I have to go back to 1.23? My limitation here is that I don't understand how much a part of the overall firmware package the HBoot is.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
1. You can change cid with any hboot as long as you are s-off.

2. Only 4.0.3 requires 3.12 firmware, all previous versions run on any firmware afaik
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Oh darn...I thought I was special being able to change CID with the new firmware. :D

About the HBoot...if I put HBoot 1.17 back on, does that put the old firmware back as well? Or just the HBoot?

Meaning can I have HBoot 1.17 AND Firmware 3.12?

I feel like I'm asking a noobish basic question here, so thanks for bearing with me for not understanding how much the HBoot is a part of the overall firmware.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
My guess is yes, but you need to downgrade radio too, as there were reports of new radio not playing well with older hboots.
[HTC Sensation] LuckyMethod:
I'm trying to install the ICS rom to no avail... I think I got my phone set up correctly, but somehow I'm missing something.

This is my fastboot getvar all:

INFOversion: 0.5
INFOversion-bootloader: 1.23.0000
INFOversion-baseband: N/A
INFOversion-cpld: None
INFOversion-microp: None
INFOversion-main: 1.24.401.1
INFOserialno: HT164T507432
INFOimei: 355066042073082
INFOproduct: pyramid
INFOplatform: HBOOT-8260
INFOmodelid: PG5810000
INFOcidnum: 11111111
INFObattery-status: good
INFObattery-voltage: 3923mV
INFOpartition-layout: Generic
INFOsecurity: off
INFObuild-mode: SHIP
INFOboot-mode: FASTBOOT
INFOcommitno-bootloader: baf31577
INFOhbootpreupdate: 11
INFOgencheckpt: 0
all: Done!
finished. total time: 0.495s

I have a pink "unlocked" up top in fastboot. I tried to flash the firmware already adding my mid and then flash Virtuous Inquisition... and that's when I get an inescapable boot loop.

Anybody can tell me what I should do to figure out what's wrong?
[HTC Sensation] DDeveryday:
I think i installed the ICS firmware, but it doesn't work with any non-ICS roms for me. It gives me frequent reboots. Anyways, how do I check if I have the correct firmware besides checking the MD5 checksum??? Like something I can check within the phone. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
Do i need to first downgrade hboot to 1.17 in order to get my phone s-on....?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
So, ICS runs fine, GB doesn't boot? Unusual. Sure its not something you've done while installing?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
No. But do make sure all custom stuff is removed. Best thing to do is to flash RUU before running s-on command.
[HTC Sensation] DDeveryday:
I'm not sure. before I installed the firmware, I was testing trip's asop ics rom. It gave me a lot of reboots, so i decided to try the sense ics rom which led me to installing the firmware. I didn't like the Sense ICS rom, and restored my Miui backup in recovery. That's when I start getting reboots. I tried wiping everything, fresh installed different GB sense/cm7/miui rom, and all got the same problem. I even superCID my phone to install other firmwares. Still no luck.
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
Of course, this is the most important thing. My phone has again dust under the screen so i need to sent it again (this is the third phone) for replacement :(
[HTC Sensation] x5starguerillaa:
Can't download any of the zips from multiupload cos of that damn FBI ****.
[HTC Sensation] -juanito-:
Please update this app..I don't know how to flash the new firmware
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Do you mean how to update to 3.24 firmware? I can do if there is enough demand for my guide.
[HTC Sensation] Euler MD:
I am having a little trouble with updating the firmware. So I downloaded the PM58IMG and booted into the bootloader. It prompted me to install it, which I did, but halfway through it, it shut off. When I turned it back on and tested if it had installed (by trying to install an ICS Rom), it didn't work. Then I tried to re-install the firmware, but the bootloader said "Model ID incorrect" when I tried.

Any help at all would be great.

- Thanks
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Check if you are still superCID.
[HTC Sensation] Euler MD:
I fixed the SuperCID and the image worked. I ended up following everything the guide said, and flashed both images and it works. I tried installing the HyperSensationICS rom, but it still hangs at its first boot. Any ideas?

- Thanks again =D
[HTC Sensation] Euler MD:
I am currently on Cyanogenmod SelfKang Alpha 9,
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
That might be the reason. Try another one, which came from 3.12 RUU
[HTC Sensation] Euler MD:
I tried to install Hypersensation which claims to have 3.12 RUU

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1302969

in addition to Virtuious Inquisition

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1408351

Both of the roms froze at their first bootup and the phone rebooted.
[HTC Sensation] HURRIDOG:
Hello Tinky1,

on my Sensation Xe now I’m in Insertcoin 3.4.6 gingerbread 2.3.5 and my hboot is 1.23 (I try ICS but I prefer come back to Gingerbread).

I tried to revert the hboot in 1.17 but my recovery (4ext Recovery touch v. 1.0.0.3 RC2) doesn’t do this, giving me this message: “critical error! Installation aborted!”. I have superCid (11111111).

Which is the problem? 4ext Recovery touch or other?

Thanks a lot.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Do it in bootloader, not in recovery.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Weird. Try reflashing firmware.
[HTC Sensation] philseven:
Hi when I flashed virtuous rom didn't really pay attention wither I had super CID are not and just assumed that I could flash any rom man was I wrong and I came home late at night not reading any thing and just got to flashing anything thank the Lord he looks out for the elderly, babies and retard's me being the latter. I didn't brick my phone but I did flash the PG58IMG.zip on virtuous rom page. This is what my hboot looks like. I am still able to get into recovery and I did make a nandriod back up. I used mikes super wipe and try'ed to install rom but I just continue to get splash page and rom won't boot, I let this continue in that cycle for an hour took battery out turned phone on. It vibrates I get splash screen and then boot screen goes black than vibrates and start's all over again. Obviously I did something wrong stuck on stupid can someone help the village Idiot please. :eek:
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
1.23 came with 3.12 RUU, just try flashing rom based on that RUU. And don't forget to delete pg zip before rebooting or you'll not get past bootloader.
[HTC Sensation] philseven:
Thank you so much for your timely response I will try rite away and let you now how it worked out. Thanks again.

Yeah I try'ed all those things can't get past the bootloader even down loaded virtuous rom on different sd card still can't get past bootloader guess I am crazy are my phone is now it's a challenge but I don't want to brick my phone stuck on stupid. Time 1:43 pm. Thanks in advance hope you can help.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Just confirm, you did delete PG58IMG.zip from sd?
[HTC Sensation] philseven:
Yes I did and still didn't boot up.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
And you flashed rom AFTER flashing firmware?
[HTC Sensation] philseven:
No I did not so your saying I have to flash the firmware then immediately flash rom if that is the case how can I reflash the firmware is there a way I can start all over?. Thanks so much for your help you are a real blessing.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Well, depending on firmware... Some packages wipe the ROM. So, to be safe, flash firmware, delete PG58IMG.zip, go to recovery, flash rom (the one which is appropriate for whatever firmware you flashed). That should work.
[HTC Sensation] blackchad:
for some reason my phone will not get superCID. when i get adb going and reboot the thing into fastboot everything goes smooth until i try the writecid and it just says waiting for device and hangs there eternally. any advice?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
No hboot driver or no fastboot.exe in adb folder.
[HTC Sensation] philseven:
Yeah i try'ed to start over but didn't work down loaded firmware placed in clockworkmod folder boot into boot loader didn't change img then rebooted removed firmware from folder using root explorer use quattro rom to flash then continued the same old cycle. **** don't know what to do. Just wondering is there any way to flash a new firmware.
[HTC Sensation] blackchad:
do you know where i could download hboot driver? because i have fastboot.exe . search didnt have any downloads just mention.
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
I wont to revert to a original rom (i have backup of that rom). Do i need an old firmware or not? If so where is it to flash it before reverting?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Go to development forum, find firmware thread by Kohr-Ah. Flash 1.17 firmware. Restore rom.
[HTC Sensation] nkojic:
can you please help me...dont know which one is corect :(

need to go back to my original rom.....

ok no need i done it :)
[HTC Sensation] nevrlow:
Use the 3.24 fw. 3.12 causes issues

Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
[HTC Sensation] jmcdonald58:
I flashed and restored Elegancia 1.4.2 from nandroid and it seems fine installed Insertcoin 4.0.3 and its fine also except for the know issues that was good news for me so know I have a fully functional build backed up and one that is WIP
[HTC Sensation] daddyspud:
ok buddy thamks
[HTC Sensation] sacksyboy:
Okay, so hopefully you guys can help. This may be a noob question but I know flashing a new Radio has its risks.

I have ARHD (S-off, SCID etc) but want to follow the instructions to a T.

Mike1986's instructions say:

I strongly recommend flashing 10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 radio

The description of it I have seen on other threads shows "Europe" so I wanted to make sure this was just a label and it will in fact work on my USA Sensation with TMobile?

More importantly...If successful, I wanted to try -

Android Revolution HD with Ice Cream Sandwich & HTC Sense 3.5

...which asks you to flash a different radio.

If I don't like it or it is slow, I would need to flash back to the other Radio and the ROM, correct?

Thank you in advance.

Noob-a-la-herp-derp
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Radios are not limited to the regions, mix and match to your liking, it's a matter of finding what works best for you with your provider.
[HTC Sensation] PandaKiller:
I got this too.

It is normal???
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
You can use your radio of choice as different radios seem to give different results for different phones, just make sure to match the radio version to the appropriate RIL version. the radio is not hardware but more like a firmware or driver in Windows type terminology. The RIL is like the hardware abstraction layer component. Check the threads below and you can see which combination gives you the best results for your area. The newest version is not always the best version for your phone and area.

The reason why one radio or another is "recommended" as part of a ROM package is just that the devs liked it for whatever reason and decides to recommend it. The radio is not part of the ROM, but the RIL files are. So you can either flash your radio (up most likely) to match the included RIL, or you can keep your current radio, flash the (new) ROM, then reboot into recovery, mount /system, then flash the RIL files to match your current radio.

Sensation radios

Sensation RIL files

Edit: to find your current radio, go into Settings, About Phone, Software Information, More and look at the Baseband version. To check the RIL, open a terminal, type in getprop gsm.version.ril-impl
[HTC Sensation] sacksyboy:
Thank you, that helps.

If it does not matter, why does (for example) mike1986 ask me to use 10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 radio with the Android Revolution HD™ 5.0.2 XE | ICS | Sense 3.5 ROM?

I'm not seeing bad performance with my current (stock) radio but there must be some logic to his request for a particular radio to be paired with a ROM.

---------- Post added at 04:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:02 AM ----------

I understand the radio but the RIL link you provided still leaves me in the dark a bit. It says at the bottom of the first post:

if a ROM has a recommended radio , the ROM is already Pre-Matched to that Radio...

I am installing ARHD Roms at the moment and they all have radio recommendations.
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
As I said, the dev (Mike in this case) has chosen to include RIL files in the ARHD ROM which match to a specific radio. I do not know why he picked this one, maybe he used it himself or someone he trusts did, but it may or may not work better for you and your phone. You can either flash your current radio up to match the RIL which is included in the version of ARHD you are flashing, or you can download and flash the RIL file which corresponds to the radio you have now. Either way will work fine, and if you find that a radio/RIL pair are not giving you good coverage or data transfer speeds, then you can flash a different radio/RIL pair until you find the best one for you.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
^^^^ what he said. Superb explanation.
[HTC Sensation] sacksyboy:
Thank you very much to both of you. This forum is awesome and the folks here are really helpful.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
OP updated, request to move to DEV section.

Also, I suggest people from all 3 threads just jump on this one, kinda hard to track 3 or 4 threads at the same time....