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[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Good deal! I'm glad to hear it worked without a hitch. Did you even have to resort to the supertool?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] gotcivic:
HELP!!!

ok got my bootloader unlocked...try to run the fastboot commands from cmd and it keeps telling me that it is not a recognized as an internal or external command any help?????????
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Where are you running the commands from? Google gave me this, see if it helps. ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1051408
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pactronic:
Do i need CWM

Ok im unlocked through HTC site and im rooted via supertool cant seem to flash custom cwm do i need cwm to flash a rom?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Yes, you need custom cwm to flash a Rom. Don't go into recovery if you don't have cwm, it will jack things up again like it did last time for you. Why can't you flash the cwm? Since you already used the supertool, you don't need to do the steps involving the CWM ROOT zip. You only need to do the command prompt stuff with the adbrecovery zip.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pactronic:
My mind is going blind on command prompt I know how to open command prompt but not sure about what to do after that. The HTC site did alot of that when I unlocked my Vivid but it was step by step. Thanks for your help I appreciate it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Okay, first things first, where did you extract the adbrecovery zip? Go ahead and extract that zip to the desktop. Now go to your computers file explorer and find the desktop and hold shift and right click. Choose open command prompt here. From there simply type in the code I specify (fastboot devices and the other one in the OP).
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] gotcivic:
finally!!!!

finally got all this root stuff figured out working beautifullly..first try!..thanks for all the help slapshot and pirate!!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pactronic:
Ok i got adbfastbootrecovery folder on my desktop i went to file explorer on computer to desktop shift and rightclick opened up command prompt typed fastboot devices nothing happened it said not recognized as an internal or external command
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
That's the exact same problem gotcovic had. Check out the link I posted for him.

And are you sure you have selected fastboot in hboot like in the steps before? Android debugging on too?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pactronic:
yes on the once i hboot i pick fastboot then hook up to usb and usb debugging is on
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
And you're also in charge only mode? adbrecovery zip EXTRACTED to the desktop? Running cmd from the desktop folder?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pactronic:
Yes but i dont see how it would possible to be in anything but charge only mode when you power off the phone then go into to hboot

---------- Post added at 07:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:11 PM ----------

Ok I see what you mean charge only by default i will take another stab at it thanks for your help.

---------- Post added at 08:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:25 PM ----------

Ok i finally got it had to move the root recovery.img file to my android folder and followed your instructions from there thanks slapshot.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Good job! :) I'm glad you got it rooted. It's good that you were able to troubleshoot a little on your own too. Enjoy, I recommend trying out some sense 3.5 rumrunner. ;)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] MerlinOfLore:
Nah. Although I did have to pull the battery a few times and some patience is required as the backup takes a minute to start. I even have the 'infamous' animated battery meter when my phone is powered off and charging lol.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Yea, backups have been a bit of an issue it seems. lol and the animated battery meter isn't a huge deal. I believe it's getting worked on by the guys who do all the real work around here. ;)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Added revert to stock to the OP.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
i have a rogers ph39img i can give you a link for too
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
That would be great PG, wouldn't want to exclude our friends up north. :p
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
STOCK ROGERS RUU ZIP
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Thanks PG, putting it up now.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] duckredbeard:
A quick question regarding the order of your steps to gain perm root on the Vivid. I was reading through the steps to make sure I understand and I have what may be a simple question. Better to ask now than in the middle of a root. It is probably a simple answer, but someone who is following the instructions exactly might have some confusion here.

In the "Gain perm root" section, you have steps that read as follows:

- Type "fastboot devices" without quotes and it should find your device, this ensures you are connected properly. Then type in "Fastboot flash recovery root_recovery.img" without quotes and wait for it to finish

- Put Vivid_CWM_Root_VER2 zip file on root of internal sdcard (aka NOT in any folders)

- Boot into H-Boot like you did before, and use the volume rockers to go to "recovery" and press the power button to select it

- Select "install zip from sdcard"

In the step "Put Vivid_CWM_Root_VER2.zip file on root of internal sdcard" are we going to be in a fully booted device after the previous step? Should we have that file already in the external sd card ready to move to internal? Should we put that file in the internal before we begin anything?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Tell you what, I just updated that section for a new recovery. Try out the new method I put up, should be less confusion too. :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] SmokeCrawler:
Question for those that have their recovery working. How long is a normal time of backing up? I just helped a coworker out on rooting it and it seems like nothing is happening after like 15 minutes. Tried what was mentioned in the op but still a no go. Rooted with the first step.

Edit: **** I just seen where you updated the op. I'll try that out first and see if it works for him
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Yea, see if those work and then report back.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lostsoul3471:
Gave my thanks to you, Slapshot, for this thread.

Picked up my Vivid last night and was set with CWM and root within an hour and half. Had to update drivers and SDK from the instructions on HTCDev site otherwise it may have taken less time than that. But everything was spot-on.

Fantastic Work!

More thanks goes out to the rest of the Dev community for getting us here.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Slapshot30, have you seen this at all with the vivid? Some how my root is messed up.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] penguinfishies:
Your guide worked flawlessly! Unlocked bootloader and rooted. Very grateful as this is my first root :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] strose09:
If you have CWM 5.0 installed do you need to update the PH39IMG.zip or can you just flash the CWM version 2 zip in recovery?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] duckredbeard:
Sorry to clutter the thread, but here's my plug for following the directions exactly. Worked great for me. Took about 30mins because I read everything 8 times to make sure I was doing it right. Thanks to all who have worked on this, even those who asked questions. Beers for all.

There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Thanks! Glad it was painless. :D

I've heard of a couple instances of losing root. Was there anything in particular you did before this happened? (Flashed a new ROM, new recovery, etc)

Nice! I'm glad your first root was a good experience. :D

Currently, we can NOT flash a new CWM through recovery. This is because we do not have S-OFF yet. For right now, the PH39IMG.zip is probably the easiest method.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
You aren't cluttering the thread, I actually prefer people to tell me if they succeeded and how easy it was :). Glad you got it all figured out though, and props to you for taking the time to reread the directions and be precise. I do the same thing when I'm doing something as big as root.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Nope just running RumRaider beta 7 along with the first cwm that was for the holiday. Some how I got root back and don't know how. It's more frustrating not knowing how I lost it in the first place.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] megatronisabeast:
I will be receiving the vivid tomorrow. I am coming over from the Captivate so I am still learning all the HTC lingo. Anyway, here is my question:

Put the PH39IMG zip and VIVID_CWM_ROOT_VER2 zip onto the ROOT (not in any folders) of your EXTERNAL SD card and insert the SD card into your phone

Does this mean I will need to buy an sd card before attempting the steps? Will it not work on the internal? Thanks.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mark72501:
I put it on root of the internal...worked fine for me. [I make no promises, however. Just my experience.]
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] megatronisabeast:
That is what I have done in the past. Just was curious if something was different with the HTC phones that wouldn't make it possible. Thanks!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dkj7777:
Can i use HTC SuperTool to get temp root and backup my apps in titanium backup before unlocking my bootloader?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
No. Because you need an unlocked bootloader first to even use the supertool.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dkj7777:
ehat if i used the temproot in the old guide?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Yea that should do the trick. Then go ahead and perm root as normal.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] strose09:
I just wanted to confirm I was rooted and running CWM 5.0 and wanted to upgrade to CWM 5.5. I used the superguide and was able to flash the PH39IMG.zip and then flashed the VIVID_CWM_ROOT_VER2.ZIP but for some reason I was not able to gain root. I then used the HTC supertool V3 and was able to attain root. Previously that v2 supertool did not work for me but I just wanted to state my success in case others have similar issues.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Gotcha. For future reference, you don't need to flash that CWM ROOT zip in recovery. You are already perm rooted and in flashing that file again, it probably screwed some things up.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] kozmikkick:
Are only hope now for s-off is that the engineering bootloader gets leaked right? Or do we know if revolutionary will be working on an alternative
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
I don't know anything involving revolutionary. But yes, the next things in line are S-OFF and probably carrier unlock too. Evil is the one who pushed HTC hard to unlock the bootloader, and he is now working on full S-OFF on the Rezound. S-OFF on the Rezound will most likely lead to S-OFF on our Vivid.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dkj7777:
Which temproot do you reccomend?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
This one should work great. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1341162
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dkj7777:
Will it give me enough time to backup my apps before su dissapears?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Yes. Superuser will only disappear when you reboot.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] 3f62011:
The temp root was disappearing for me within an hour, a few hours at most -- in my experience.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Interesting, I guess I never really messed with it a lot. There is another temp root I believe that lasts through a few reboots, but the one I posted should be fine for simply backing up.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] shackman716:
How come my cmd screen is showing <waiting for device> and thats it?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] travisxcore:
Your device isn't connected/detected.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] shackman716:
thoughts on getting it recognized, Im not doing anything different then what the instructions say... maybe restart computer or change a setting... thoughts?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] travisxcore:
Did you install htc sync?

Did you install the android sdk?

What os are you using?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] kozmikkick:
You need to turn on usb debugging under settings applications. This will fix it pretty sure.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] shackman716:
I got it... many thanks to both of you... I realized that I didn't have sense installed and then remembered USB debugging right before I read your post but it recognized it instantly and now Im unlocked.. again many thanks! :D
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Glad it worked out, thanks to those who helped you. Following every step precisely is key. ;)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
slap,

please remove this line from number 6:

- Connect phone to pc using usb and make sure usb-debugging is enabled (settings > applications > development) and you are in charge only mode (settings > Connect to PC > default connection type)

if you are in fastboot mode, those options dont exist ;)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Gotcha, must've just been a remnant from the old steps. I'll fix as soon as I get to my computer. :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] SmokeCrawler:
I finally had a chance to try the updated version and it worked. Didn't have to use the supertool. My coworker is finally happy and I can get on without hearing about a root solution lol
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Lol glad to hear it. :D
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] super114:
Dumb question: how do you flash a kernel then immediately flash the rom without rebooting? After flashing the kernel, dont you have to select "bootloader" then "recovery" and the the phone would reboot into recovery? I did that and got my phone stuck in boot loop
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
flash recovery (only need to do this once)

flash kernel

reboot into recovery

flash rom

rebooting into recovery will not cause a bootloop
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] super114:
Thanks. But the problem seems to be with either the rom or the kernel provided by the developer. I tried to flash another rom and it went smoothly.
[HTC Inspire 4G] boss man Kole:
Which way is easier too unroot? The aahk or gene Poole's. And if I use the aahk do I need to get the new update or use the same one I used to root my phone? Just wanted to know in advanced. Thanx
[HTC Inspire 4G] mrhaley30705:
1) Easier is very subjective. Easy to me might be difficult for you. Research both and decide which you would feel more comfortable with.

2) Please search more before starting a new thread, as this has been talked about in numerous threads already.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WoogsNuts:
Hi guys,

Long story short, I came across an awesome app, in order to use it you had to install a different kernal and root the phone. I know nothing about this but, my buddy supposedly could do this "no problem." So, long story short, it didn't work, he flashed my ATT Captivate and reinstalled Android 2.1 for the Vibrant!! Uggghhh! So, I've been reading here and there, wanting to fix this myself. I have downloaded the latest android OS, I have odin. Am I correct in assuming that all I need to do in flash the phone and install the new OS and I'm good to go? Is there anything else I need to do or should know? Thank you very much for any help!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viny2cool:
Do you know how to get into download mode? you best bet would be to flash gingerbread boatloader and rom...read this thread for easy instructions

How To flash Captivate ROMs from Stock

This post has everything you might need. it has instruction to flash Froyo and Gingerbread...I am not sure which one you want...but you can get root and custom kernels for both.....

Another thread to find stock roms for Android 2.1 to Android 2.3.5 and kernels.....Stock roms and kernels
[Android Apps and Games] Running Sloth:
Maybe I wasn't searching the right way or maybe it really doesn't exist, but...

Is there a comprehensive list of truly ICS optimized apps?

In my definition of optimized it would mean that the menu structure has been figured out and updated, along with GPU accel for any views for said app.

I just know SoundHound is optimized... not really much else?
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] dwl99:
I'm trying to flash CWM to my daughter's new GT I5500 but keep running into the above error message. The same thing happens after rebooting the phone (into recovery download mode), with different USB ports, different USB cables and with 2 different Windows 7 PCs. Any ideas? I've used Odin 4.28 & 4.34 and have the correct Samsung USB drivers installed. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] dwl99:
Managed to get it to work on my Windows XP laptop so it must have been a drivers problem.
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] sasi8998vv:
Download and install Samsung kies for the drivers.
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] LightWaveX:
Update Keis and try again and set to download mode, maybe that will work.
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] dwl99:
Thanks, I already tried all that before posting but it didn't work. It's a bit of a pest having to boot my lappy into XP to do any flashing but at least it works.
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] lexobys:
Uninstall KIES,reboot,install KIES and driver,reboot. Plug it in to the other usb port,it should work

Sent from my blek krupuk
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] rpadula:
have you tried running as administrator in Windows 7? (right click -> run as administrator)

for me it failed with the same error till i've started running as admin.

if this doesn't work go to compatibility properties and check Always runs as administrator, then right click, run as admin.
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] dwl99:
Thanks, yes I had tried that as well. I spent some time looking for a solution online prior to posting & it seems to be quite a widespread problem.
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] rpadula:
well today i started having the same problems as you...

had try in another computer (Win7) and worked flawlessly
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] dwl99:
Were either of your PCs running Win7 64-bit?
[Samsung Galaxy 5 I5500] logannz:
The drivers don't work in Windows 8 Pro 64 bit
[Galaxy S II General] ruskprick:
This thread is most likley going to be closed in true china style.

But i still gonna try explaining my opinion on the way xda has developed lately.

The attitude from some of the devs is soo out of line,that on anyother site they would be getting atleast warnings.And the mods keeps licking the "emperors" butts.Im asking for some mods with some balls to step in and put down the foot.i have seen one of our most famous dev turning from a gentle and really tolerant person to a diva with some seriously bad attitude against members.even though i can understand that it can be quite annoying answering same stupid questions over and over again,theres no need in turning into an "as$hole".
[Galaxy S II General] jetpackjeff:
Go spend 100+ hours developing, hacking, and reverse engineering FOR NO MONEY and then post it here and have people that don't even bother to read a few pages complain about your attitude.

Get real dude, they get annoyed with stupid questions by lazy/new users in their development threads. Remember, XDA is a forum dedicated to DEVELOPMENT of open source projects. Users shouldent expect support from developers and devs should never be obliged to provide it unless users are paying money for the product.
[Galaxy S II General] qwerty warrior:
ive been a member for some time

after signing up

i saw the XDA "video" which tough me stuff on proper "etiquette"

then i read the forum rules

after following these rules i have never had a problem with the people or the devs

if u don't follow the rules you should only blame your self

its free your not paying for it you should at least have some common courtesy

good day sir
[Galaxy S II General] Exidrion:
If you're talking about codeworkx, in my opinion he isn't a bad guy at all. Despite the fact that he spends hours and hours developing and people pay no attention to big bold letters, ask the same ****ing questions, don't read, have no initiative, and constantly whine, he STILL RESPONDS to people regularly. Go ahead, say I'm ass kissing I don't care. Doesn't deserve the **** he gets.
[Galaxy S II General] TheSaw:
I kinda agree with OP a little bit on some dev's attitude, but it's not that bad, and I also understand them. Yes, they may have a bit more "freedom" on the forum, but considering the amount of their contribution, I think it's totally justified.
[Galaxy S II General] MistahBungle:
There's a simple solution to this. Read. Then read some more. Then read a bit more still. If you still can't find what you're looking for, ask questions. But make sure you provide a bit of background to the question you're asking. Show you've made some sort of effort (most important) to learn/find the answer to your question on your own.

I have never seen a dev or an experienced member bag out/abuse a n00b when these simple steps have been followed. I have seen other newer members do so tho.

If anyone on this site isn't prepared to follow the steps in my first paragraph, they deserve whatever happens as a result of any posts made not following these steps IMHO. And frankly, they don't belong on a site like this & should stick to stock.

As several people have already pointed out in this thread (and others), devs owe XDA members absolutely nothing we should be eternally grateful that they do what they do and they provide fantastic roms/kernels/apps & themes either completely free of charge or for completely insignificant amounts of money (in the case of apps, or if you choose to donate to a dev).
[Galaxy S II General] bala_gamer:
Devs are also humans, if people piss them off repeatedly with dumb and already answered questions without reading, they have the right to react!!
[Galaxy S II General] bazzag:
My 2 cents...

While I appreciate the time and effort the devs put, the arrogance some have is uncalled for. They act like they are God's sent Prophets, the only ones gifted with the power of modifying the code of the forbidden. Asking for appreciation and credit (which is well deserved) is one thing, riding the high horse and pissing on the rest is another.
[Galaxy S II General] androidkid311:
Op hasnt replied... wwll thats what u call attention seeking lol. I agree with everyones comments :). On a lighter note... have a happy new year :D

looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
[Galaxy S II General] jit_devil2:
i prefer not to get involved in these type of threads

but to be frank am surprised that the devs haven't stopped developing yet........

it's not the quality of xda-dev's that have gone down over time,

for me its the non-dev community thats going downhill.

i myself fall in the non-dev category but sad to say in certain cases i have actually seen 5-10 post-old users bad-mouthing and criticizing devs who have given their time, knowledge and efforts to the community over the years and asked nothing in return except for voluntary donations.

xda isn't turning into a dictatorship its just democracy gone bad.
[Galaxy S II General] jetpackjeff:
I can't tell if most of you are really stupid/young or English is a second language for 75% of XDA. Sometimes its so damn hard to just read and understand some users comments. Does no one use a browser with integrated English spell correction?
[Galaxy S II General] Sparksltd:
What?! Don't be so stupid! The devs here don't work for you or xda. What makes you think that they should provide you with 24h support on their work for free?

I'm guessing your just a kid by the attitude.
[Galaxy S II General] soulicro:
Maybe developers will start being nicer when the users start behaving less like animals and more like human beings.