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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Lets stop the pointless flamefest. I consider this rom abandoned until the Developer decides to pop in and provide support. You do not. You believe Developers have no responsibility to support their work. I disagree. I am not personally empowered by calling you names like "troll" so I will refrain.

Its a shame too. Good rom.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dictionary:
I however didn't flame you. :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Indirect:
Actually, as a developer we have no responsibility to help those with issues. Thats the beauty of us being non-professional developers. We basically can drop something off and then say "figure it out" there is a bit of a rule when asking for help, if they decline or don't reply, you better learn to troubleshoot. I just became a developer a few months ago and until that, I was an end user. You know how many times I posted my issues with a rom? None. Because if something doesn't work, I see why. Such as if it was my fault or not. If it was, I fix it and move on. If nothing is wrong due to me, I'll wait quietly if I see the issue is known and wait for an update. Users like you make me regret learning this much about android sometimes. We do this for the community, not ungrateful idiots like you.

Sent by breaking the sound barrier
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
I don't think there's anything wrong with asking questions, but not getting an answer within hours doesn't give one the right to badger a developer and berate him for "abandoning" a project.

Unfortunately, there's no cure for an irrational sense of entitlement, so the rest of us just need to learn to ignore the tools that pop up every once in a while.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] hasseye:
sorry but you like a selfish idiot man. I'm an engineer and i appreciate all the work these developers do....they spend countless hours for nothing, no pay, no degree, no recognition, just to provide us (and them) with work that they invested crazy time into.

This is called freeware for a reason...you use it under your own risk...if you flash this rom and your device suddently burns up in flames....ooops sorry better luck next time, clearly not the developers fault.

I'm not saying not to post your question, post your question by all means. But if the developers doesnt respond back to you, then you better learn how to solve your own problems if its that big of a deal to you. Stop sounding like a winny little kid and take matters into your own hand.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Lol, you people crack me up.

Anyone who posts a rom should be responsible to the users of their work and provide trouble-shooting and answer questions. You would think after all their hard work they would want to help people implement it properly.

This whole business of "these guys work hard and don't owe anyone a thing" is sophmoric and ridiculous. No one held a gun to their heads forcing them to spend time developing a rom. They do it for the challenge and the recognition. The fanboyism that goes on in xda should make it clear there is recognition and a bit of glory for successful developers as there should be. Great developers deserve loyal followings and much praise.

So here's the thing. You post a rom on xda that people are going to flash, you owe it to them to support it. If you are not going to support it post in the OP that people should not expect your support.

Until the developer of this rom shows up (its been about 2 weeks now), I will consider this rom abandoned. Its too bad because it is damned good work and the developer is talented. I use it as my daily.

I just wish he cared enough about his users to answer questions occasionally.

BTW, all the best developers support their work. That is one reason they are so popular. Again I point to Viper as an example. He is a VERY busy, prolific and popular developer. He is constantly checking in on his roms, even the minor ones like for the View and fielding questions from users. That is what makes Viper a great developer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
It's like watching the world's biggest idiot fight the world's most stupid battle.

Actually, no...it's not like that at all. It is that.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dictionary:
I say again, what if a family member was badly injured or passed away? You'd call that abandonment on his part, because he didn't come back online in 10-11 days? Come on, be fair. You don't know what's going on in his personal life. I know how it is to be abandoned by a dev, so I completely understand those feelings. In this situation though, I think you're being a tad unreasonable
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Magnus_CA:
Don't feed the troll.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] hasseye:
I love how you feel like the developer "owes" you something because you used his free rom....stop expecting things....listen flat out he wanted to submit a rom and then never come back to the website, then he never will...

I think we all laugh at you because at least the people in the computer science/engineering area understand that when someone provides a free library of some sort then its your job to decipher there code and try to implement it and work it.

If you aren't aware, normally someone will be kind enough to provide updates and instructions on how to use it...other than that the person is gone.

Please educate yourself on how this software world works...if you want "help desk" then flash back to the stock HC rom and call up HTC when you have a problem. YOU PAY for their customer support, you do not pay for the customer support of a free rom though.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kevinrocksman:
I am sorry but I have to put my 2 cents in here. Graffixsync has alot more on his plate than you think. Someone can't spend their entire life helping people all day every day 24/7.. I have spent 132 hours within the last month and a half developing a tool that would simplify life for people and I try the best I can to support, correct, and update the tool. I have a cell phone so I have irc up all the time 24/7, I have 8 hours off a day (yes thats right the military makes me work anywhere from 12-15 hours a day) and I spend my free time helping people in this community. I spend my time and I get lots of thanks here and there but then I get those very few people who are ungrateful that say I'm not there (for that 3-6 hours that I sleep) and they rate my tool bad and very difficult to understand. We are only human, as developers we spend our "free time" helping the community and we are not always there. If I wanted to I could easily leave this forum and say forget this I quit at anytime and would feel no regret knowing that my tool is working and will be working for quite a while with no support. If I died in battle, training or in a car wreck and didnt show up here on the forums for weeks, months years... would you just say "close this thread the developers doesn't care anymore?" Leave this guy alone. I wouldn't blame him if he said "forget you" at any time. It's people like the "trolls" that make us developers not want to help people anymore.

Think before you post. Cause you might regret those words later.

Until you are a developer with 100's of request every hour of people wanting something from you don't talk crap toward us.

If it was something you paid for yes I would understand support daily but this is all free..

by the way you said "no one held a gun to their head to make the rom" well guess what buddy "NO ONE PUT A GUN TO THEIR HEAD AND MADE THEM FLASH THE ROM"

also if something is working fine the developer can step away for a while. If there is a problem (weeks later) it is the end users problem. It is not the rom.

It is kind of sad that so far EVERYBODY that has posted after you has posted negative comments about what you wrote so I think the majority vote wins on the point of "the developer doesn't have to support the product if its free"

I have recently talked to Graffixsync (within the last day) and he is busy right now. If you can just hold on he might help you.

Have u ever walked into a business and there's a sign that says "we can refuse service to anyone"?

I am going to cut off now because I know that I wouldn't want my forum to be turned into a flame fest.

And if anyone agrees with the last statement please don't post anymore comments to feed the trolls....if anything just do "thanks" on the posts you agree with to show the negativity instead of filling up the forums with stuff that doesn't pertain to making the rom better :-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] casmi:
I was noticing the same thing. I unchecked "fast boot" in the power settings and now it seems to power off fully when I choose power off. When I power back up the white HTC screen comes on before the boot animation now.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] casmi:
Looking forward to future updates...love the ROM :thumbup:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] HTCFlyerX:
All developers do there work for FREE, so you telling ANYONE they should be on a frequent schedule here is absolutely disrespectful, greedy and plain ignorant, most of all UNGRATEFUL! If you want the issue fixed the DO IT YOURSELF and we will see how long it takes YOU!!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kevinrocksman:
I respect you for that :-) but remember now.. I dont think Graffixync would want his thread mixed with flaming ;-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Indirect:
Graffix, if you can give,me the files for the ics rom you had that was bootlooping, I can probably get it running.

Sent aboard the Evo Express
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cmart4:
ICS.... awesomeness!:)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] s0cal:
hello dev and fellow members,

I just recently got my View and updated the firmware to HoneyComb but forgot to S-OFF via revolutionary. As of right now, I unlocked my boot loader through HTC Dev unlocker, and I installed Clockwork Mod, but do I still need to do S-OFF to install this ROM? If so, how do I do that, I tried following the steps on the tutorial but they said ONLY if i have stock HC which I don't because I have cwm recovery... Could someone help me please..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] casmi:
Go to kevinrocksman's thread and you can get HC S-OFF with revolutionary.

He has created a great tool, if you read and follow the instructions it works. I was on HC and unlocked from HTC and I am now HC S-OFF running this ROM.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1418258
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Rooster85:
We really need some cm9.... just sayin

Sent from my IceCreamSammich Nexus S 4G
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] freak4dell:
Every so often, I get an urge to try and make CM9 for this thing. Then I look at the guide on getting started with Android development and I quickly snap back to reality and realize I'll just break my very expensive tablet.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kevinrocksman:
i wouldnt really be to afraid of breaking this one. Its quite difficult and my tool can put it back to shape in no time if it "breaks"
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kevinrocksman:
told ya all he's there ;-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Greggd:
I'd like to see the launcher be able to scroll around with out stopping if that's possible. Thx

sent from my EVO 4G running ICS
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ElAguila:
I don't know if you can but I would like to have the stock lockscreen instead if the Sense one.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
I dont think it's possible on the Stock HC launcher and I havent seen a mod for one(but will admit only did a quick 2 min search quick now)

That's something I've been trying to do. It was very easy to do on the evo 3d. But for some reason the apk files dont decompile/compile right. I think I read in another thread it might have something to do with deodexing the rom using the kitchen instead of using smali. I'm going to look into deodexing it the normal way with smalli, but I heard from devs much higher up on the food chain that it's a pain in the ass, Most devs are against using the kitchen except for deodexing a rom. I will look into doing it the normal way this weekend and see if that does the trick (I will bring my linux machine with me this weekend instead of my windows machine)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] s0cal:
this rom breaks some application text box such as mobile biz pro. I am using the tablet for business orders and some boxes are broken. i restored it back to stock rom and it works fine.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
can you explain breaks? lol I never heard of a texbox breaking. haha Can you take a screen shot and post it?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Emama:
anyone can post the stock PDF reader that can use the pen?

this rom deleted it..other than that everything is fine
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] s0cal:
sorry for giving such a vague description, but basically the text box for searching customers and typing in the name, its suppose to show a default text in there which says something like "search customer's name" but instead it just shows an underline as if the text got cut off and is only showing the bottom of the font itself. i don't know how to screen shot on the view so yeah... but i hope this explains what I'm talking about. i verified that it has something to do with the rom because as i reverted back to stock hc rom, it worked perfectly.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
hmm interesting, if you could get a screen shot that would help me narrow it down. Do you have the pen? if you have the pen you can take a SS via the pen button
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] pbanj:
good to see your still alive, and don't let idiots get to you, people will never have any respect for devs all they want to do is take take take and not give anything back.

also the rom has been working great
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Emama:
Onceagain can any one post the stock PDF reader that can use the pen?

Also there is a weird option in the browse, it is the search but why showing as this ?_?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
I dont have it handy right now otherwise I would post it, hmm I just saw that search text thing. I'll try to figure out what's causing it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Magnus_CA:
graffixnyc,

You asked if there were any additions we might be looking for in the next build. I agree with you that aside from a kernel you've taken it as far as it can go. It would be awesome to see ics ported over to the View. My vote would be to forego the pen functionality if we could get ics running. ****, half the time I don't even know where my pen is.

Thanks for all your work.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] s0cal:
Sorry for the poor picture but this is what i meant by the text is cut off. It does that for some boxes in the app. Could you find out what is wrong? On stock Rom its fine.

Thank you
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Thanks for the pic. I **think** I know what's going on. I think it's an issue with one of the .9png's in one of the framework files, at least from the pic it looks like that. Do the edges around the textbox seem a bit strange? (kinda rounded instead of square) It looks like it from the pic but cant really tell. If so, then it's def one of the .9pngs. I will look into it this weekend for sure..

There are two files it can be in. Maybe you can help me narrow which it's in. When you are on my rom make a backup of /system/framework/framework-res.apk and com.htc.resources.apk and then try pushing them from the stock rom, first do one of them and check the textbox, if it looks good then I know it's in that file, if it's still the same then push back the one you replaced, and change out the other one. That will help me narrow down which apk it's happening in and be able to fix it quicker when I do go to fix it this weekend
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Whiskey103:
Okey guys.. this will stop right here.

There is no need for this debate. The work is done for free, nobody has to be here on demand.

take it or leave it.

XDA is not a helpdesk !!!

Thread cleaned !

Cheers

Whiskey
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Emama:
Some people said there is battery drain .

And I found that the battery use when idle is actually higher than that when airplane mode ON
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Magnus_CA:
Anyone else experiencing idle battery drain?

You guys should try installing betterbatterystats. You can fink the apk on xda. From within the app you can view partial wakelocks and you'll get an idea if its a system app or a market app.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] abhaxus:
I get horrible slowdowns with this rom. I have tried every version. After about an hour of use my available ram drops to less than 100 MB and there is a 15 to 30 second lag when I try to change apps or use. I did a full wipe this time and started over. Still no luck.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Hmm that's odd, my battery doesn't drain bad. My tablet lasted over 6 days while idling.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
That's another odd one. Lol. I haven't experienced that. Anyone else? What Apps do you have running?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] abhaxus:
Apps/widgets I used last night:

Hd widgets

Apw pro w/ g reader (calendar, facebook, twitter)

Kindle (for a pdf)

Dolphin

Google voice widget

Gmail widget

Google Reader official widget

Started to get super laggy after I pulled up a pdf in the kindle app, but overall its pretty unusable. I put the launcher on cypherrom 1r2 just now to see if I still have problems. It's done it on every version of the rom so far.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
For those having difficulty withes NOTES / CALENDAR integration.

If you are a heavy NOTES user like I am you have probably noticed that the Notes/Calendar Integration

does not work

in this rom.

The reason for this is that this rom is using the Stock Google Calendar and not the Sense Calendar. Notes is designed to integrate with the Sense Calendar. The good news this is easily solved.

SOLUTION:

1. Delete "CalendarGoogle.apk" and "CalendarProvider.apk" from /system/app using Root Explorer.

2. Save the HC Sense "Calendar.apk" and "CalendarProvider.apk" I have attached here to your SDCard.

3. Use Root Explorer to copy them to your /system/app folder.

4. Change the permissions to match the rest of the apps.

5. Reboot your View.

6. Re-synch your Calendar with Google.

Now you have returned back to the Sense Calendar and Notes Integration will function properly.

WARNING: This worked perfectly for me. If you screw it up and brick your View not my fault.

---------- Post added at 10:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 AM ----------

If you would like a great free texting app I would highly recommend TextPlus from the Market.

It has a beautiful interface, allows unlimited free texting from your tablet along with the ability to send attachments. Another benefit is that you can also put this app on your phone and people who text your one number (TextPlus assigns you one when you sign up) will send the same text to both devices.

Last benefit. Your phone company will have no record of your texts so there is an additional layer of privacy.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] abhaxus:
So now that I've pushed the stock hc launcher to system on cypher 1r2 I don't have the lag. Must be some kind of bug in the framework. Just an fyi.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] neoss119:
@graffixnyc: Thanks a lot for a ROM. It runs very smoothly, no crashes - great Rom!

There is one annoying thing that bugs me a bit- for some reason I'm not able to install apps through market.android.com. It is detected in the devices on my market account and I can click install on any app also getting a window that an app was successfully installed. But in reality- nothing installs. I'm connected with my View to wifi, I restarted it, it's the same google login that I used for registering and it seems that is syncing Gmail + contacts etc... just fine.

Do you know what might cause it?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Wifi slow?

Anyone who is experiencing sluggish wifi after flashing this rom, try forgetting your wifi connection and reconnecting. This resulted is a HUGE decrease in ping times for me and a doubling of mbps.

Browser is MUCH faster.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] abhaxus:
I had this problem on a rom for my phone and the solution was to fix permissions in cwm.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Hey guys, I'm going to to be doing an update this week. I'm pretty excited about it. Nothing major and its not ics. Lol but it should be pretty cool. I have a bit to figure out and learn but it should be very cool ;-)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Magnus_CA:
Looking forward to it.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] FabianaS:
+++1 can't wait!!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kelso78:
Music apps not finding music

I'm giving this ROM a try. It seems good so far but I'm having trouble building the music library. I notice there isn't a music app included. No big deal though.

I downloaded Songbird and Winamp but both show an empty library. There are no options to update the library from inside these apps.

I'm unsure of what needs to be done but help would be appreciated. I use my tablet to listen to music while I work. I like to create play lists to play a bunch of songs so using a file explorer and opening an MP3 file doesn't help much.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] casmi:
It should have the aVia Media Player included in the ROM, mine has it. I have created playlists within it for music I have stored on my SD card. If you want something that streams your music library from your computer you'll have to get one from the market such as Google music or similar apps.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] FabianaS:
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I have this same issue But I believe it is a Honeycomb issue.. Befor I did the OTA update to HC, stock player and others read the mp3s on sd card no problem, then HC wouldn't read them so when I reverted back to GB there they were again... I was hoping that a custom HC ROM would fix it but no dice! But... Poweramp Music Player works well and picks up all my files on sdcard!!

hope this helps
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kelso78:
I was hoping the same thing. I was actually even considering going back to Gingerbread.

Poweramp worked though! Thanks so much for that tip. Now I don't have to worry about it. I don't usually purchase many apps but I will be purchasing the full version of this one!! :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] FabianaS:
Awesome, Glad I could help!! ;)

This is the reason I wanted to revert back to GB.. but after I did, I really missed the Tablet optimized apps in HC (Gmail, you tube, etc.) so I too purchased the full version or Poweramp.. It was well worth it!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] robpet2:
i might have to try this rom out.. maybe bring some life back to my tablet since i barely use it
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sookieball:
I'm sad this rom hasn't been updated I'm a while :'(

I want to see ICS on this woderful device
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
I really wish I could revert back to GB since it just feels quicker to me bit I need the broad pen input options of HC. Hopefully the next iteration of this rom will be snappier (not complaining about this one being slow, would just like a quicker rom in general - spoiled by my EVO 3D I suppose).

The #1 thing that annoys me on the View is the lagging browser experience. Weird too because speedtest is showing me with about 14mbps but the pages till load much slower than on my phone.

Have tried every major browser and they all seem laggy. Its like they load 3/4 of the way very fast then just get stuck somehow. Maybe a caching thing? Dunno.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] awtryau89:
Trying this ROM out and getting FC when trying to go into notifications/sounds under Settings. Anything I can do?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wyldkard:
Full thorough wipe and reflash
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mitchellvii:
Developer mentioned a while ago that a new version would be coming out. Any progress on that?