yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] intrlude:
If everything holds true, you may not even have to root. 3D to be getting ICS 4.0 in Q1. Maybe, at that time a full root would be available also, wishful thinking of course.
[HTC EVO 3D] xDragod:
Yeah, but I really like the look of stock ICS... Sense was nice on my old Hero, where stock looked like ass, but stock ICS is beautiful. Sense looks nearly identical in every version... You don't get any of the fancy stuff that I love in Gingerbread and ICS, like the switch between green and white for when you are/aren't connected to your Google account in the notification bar or the glowing overscroll effect.

My guess is that I'll probably be on CM9 pretty consistently once it's stable. Trebuchet launcher looks amazing. Right now, the performance vs my old Hero is enough to keep me on stock. I'm not itching for more quite yet. ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] bradxnght:
shweeeeeeeeeet
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
I can't wait for cm9 at this point lol
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
Ok Chad's compiling a kernel atm but changelog:

CM9 Launcher :) WITH MORE OPTIONS [Fixed Widgets Force Close]

Battery Fixed :)

Data Stable :)

MMS Fixed..

SU Fixed.
[HTC EVO 3D] crpercodani:
This is running smooth, altho I gotta say and this isn;t to bash but Drew's build is less buggy overall even tho HW acceleration isn't on. Switching between both on boot manager and updating till one has a clear lead. Just glad ICS development has finally exploded onto the 3d.
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
Niiice! What kernel is running right now? I see it's clocked @ 1.51
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
Chad's kernel hes compiling new one with battery fix
[HTC EVO 3D] bigboidomo:
Woot Woot sounds like a daily driver !
[HTC EVO 3D] xhazyx:
i know it's rule number 1.... but, will it be out tonight?

also, is not the linux 3.0 base, that he said he's working on right?
[HTC EVO 3D] htcevo071595:
Has anyone else had problems with buying apps? when ever i go to buy an app, a error message appears.
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
Maybe chad's still compiling not sure
[HTC EVO 3D] bluerjb:
So does the XDA app..
[HTC EVO 3D] kittykat858:
dual processor xeon, 2 cores per processor, 2 physical processors, 3.2GHz - 8GB ddr3 ram

why so long to compile :(

i hope battery is fixed :)
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Xeon? Nice. What's your mobo?
[HTC EVO 3D] bluerjb:
Amazing Specs I r Jealouse :(
[HTC EVO 3D] xhazyx:
that's a pretty nice setup....

idk **** about this: how large in size (MBs, GBs?) are the files necessary to compile?
[HTC EVO 3D] :
With his set-up? Less than a hour. Probably near 30 minutes. That's how long it'll take to compile, I think. It actually should be less I think, but I also think the speed depends on modules included and the processor. Obviously no worries in regards to the processor.
[HTC EVO 3D] bluerjb:
MB's and GB's are a measure of memory for Computer :D
[HTC EVO 3D] kittykat858:
its a hp professional workstation - with a POS HP/compaq mother board

the 2 cpu's cost more than the entire system - and sometimes i wanna kick it
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Well it's a Xeon.. Of course its gonna be more than the whole system, haha.
[HTC EVO 3D] cmyasika1:
Hey JoelZ, preludedrew is reporting on twitter that this is a port. Is he right, or is this a ground up build?
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
Its a port
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Joelz said it was a port.
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
Yup Port.......
[HTC EVO 3D] kittykat858:
this has been talked abt a few times in the last 10 or so pages

it is a port

and it is the most stable and complete ics build on xda for the 3d...

so what does it matter

i built ics from scratch - and honestly, it sucked ass
[HTC EVO 3D] bluerjb:
Ugh why is that just because of the cost? I'd be happy to have the $$ to buy those eventhough all i do is game on my rig..;)
[HTC EVO 3D] :
You don't need Xeon's for gaming, not their intended purpose.
[HTC EVO 3D] bluerjb:
true but it would be something to be proud off
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
Testing Beta 1 need to drain my battery somehow to test if battery gauge is working
[HTC EVO 3D] htcevo071595:
JoelZ+Chad=Chuck Norris
[HTC EVO 3D] XTRoRDiNAiRE:
I'll be happy to test for u :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Not really, it would be thrown away money if you bought Xeon's for gaming. You're really paying for the price of the multiple QPI's (besides a few other things). They offer no performance boost in gaming whereas a i3-i5-i7 would bring.
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
Fruit ninja lol
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Youtube with 3G should do it, haha.

So to the people running what's available right now.

How is it?
[HTC EVO 3D] mrrogers1:
Not as to detract de everyone's continual F5'ing but.... Even though Joel has answered, why does it flipping matter anyway?

This thing runs great, has obviously had lots of work and collaborative work from multiple top notch Dev's, so why does anyone give a flying f*ck if it's a port or ground up? The same question asked multiple times over multiple pages, pretty annoying.... Feels like trolls stirring up ****.

Thanks Joel for this great WIP and please keep up the work!

No back to that F5 key!
[HTC EVO 3D] nonpointtruth:
Try watching YouTube videos with the phone set to Max brightness and turn off the screen time out.
[HTC EVO 3D] thedawn2009:
I'm loving it! Once you get past the few issues that have been accounted for the past few pages, it's a really solid Alpha. I've been using it all day and only had a few issues with Data service on a reboot.
[HTC EVO 3D] mrrogers1:
MEEEZ TOOOO! :-D
[HTC EVO 3D] alnzbail:
my battery is just about dead ill do it
[HTC EVO 3D] Animatorman:
data stopped working for me other than that its nice
[HTC EVO 3D] bluerjb:
okay, okay. you win! i still want one though. probably get one at some point. to fold at home haha
[HTC EVO 3D] thedawn2009:
Did you try cleaning cache and dalvik in recovery? That restored my data after I lost it. Maybe it was a fluke.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Didn't mean to sound aggressive, haha. I have a i7 990x, and I still wouldn't mind owning a Xeon, that would require me to buy a new mobo. In the end, we all want the purdy-er stuff.
[HTC EVO 3D] Animatorman:
no I'll try that now .
[HTC EVO 3D] xian_online:
xeon's are a perfectly nice desktop chip, hell they even put 'em in my Macs :) intended purpose only = price point in what your saying ;;)

this thread has been has been amazing. I've flashed everything that even remotely has ICS in the name, i flashed the new anthrax kernel on alpha 2 last night, and I've been running this since waiting last night to drop this, and everything's been humming along fine! I mean really bad ass. Some super geek love fun for me the last 3 days!

flash it guys, everything works if you coax it! and praise the lord, ICS has landed :)
[HTC EVO 3D] adamw79:
Processors?!?!

Am I in an ICS Rom thread or a computer processor dissertation?? I think there is more info in this thread on PC processors than on Android roms....
[HTC EVO 3D] xian_online:
I completely understand his point about the threading of a server chip, but he's (the xeon is not designed poster) full of **** :) sorry guy much love, but come on, your over simplifying and touting it as fact :) love :)
[HTC EVO 3D] :
I'm full of ****? Elaborate.

Not trying to tout it as a fact... I was merely just saying from the gaming perspective.
[HTC EVO 3D] Animatorman:
yup cleaning cache and dalvik in recovery did the trick!
[HTC EVO 3D] bluerjb:
true that!

:cool:
[HTC EVO 3D] thedawn2009:
Hopefully that was fixed when he drops Beta1
[HTC EVO 3D] xian_online:
ha this is fun (hey we gotta do something while we all stay up all night)

oh anyway, because a xeon is a very nice gaming chip. I have one. its not just even designed as a server only chip or anything, and from your knowledge, I assume you know that and are saying price point is what is separating it from say the i3?? you reference. again love :) glad were all here waiting on some more ics fun :)

xeon = workstation goodness :)
[HTC EVO 3D] :
LOL no. My point is, that processors don't have that much effect when it comes to gaming. The performance would be minimal depending on what you're playing. If you're playing something like an RTS game, then you'll see the difference. Guru3D has run performance tests with multiple sets of processors and the framerates jump is minimal in games like shooters... Understand? Maybe I'll be specific next time so people don't misinterpret things.

Example...

Two Xeon's won't net you better FPS than one Xeon if you're playing a game like Battlefield. Hell just in general.

Let's drop it because we're only going to clog the thread. If you want to discuss processors, just PM me.
[HTC EVO 3D] jasKaos:
Can't wait for beta 1! The battery issue is killing me lol. :)

sent from my godly 3VO w/ ICS!! :D
[HTC EVO 3D] xian_online:
I completely understand, I'm just playing devils advocate because I guess its the thing to do will having a good role time with my beer and this thread. and I realize were arguing symantics, and I agree for the avg. Joe gamer thinking a xeon is what they need is silly...but, that said, there's no replacement for displacement ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
Just want to add here, the HW acceleration is fantastic on every part of the phone except the launcher. For some reason the Launcher seems sluggish (LauncherPro was super smooth though) so I'm assuming there's more work to be done there.

However, while we wait for more pressing stuff to be fixed, that is of course a triviality and isn't something to worry about yet, just something to keep in mind :)
[HTC EVO 3D] bluerjb:
Just flashed the new kernel, battery still derped. I also checked battery monitor widget saying that im still on full battery<--- should i count on it?
[HTC EVO 3D] jasKaos:
On a side note... Hi Liquid! :D I knew I recognized your name from somewhere... and that place would be Neowin :D haha.

The only issue with this ROM for me is the battery, but since that is being fixed with Beta 1, all is golden!

I can wait for the camera to work, as well as any other bits and pieces.
[HTC EVO 3D] alnzbail:
Man if this rom is alpha I just can't wait until beta it keeps getting better.

Will beta remove the red outline? And fix Gmail and browser?

Sent from my HTC Evo 3D on Ics 4.0.3
[HTC EVO 3D] nonpointtruth:
Posted by Drew on twitter an hour ago..

[Evo3d] Bluetooth fixed, however audio over bluetooth does not yet. -- preludedrew (@preludedrew)
[HTC EVO 3D] EpicBarbecue:
Anyone have a voicemail fix
[HTC EVO 3D] XTRoRDiNAiRE:
And I just set up cm7 on my phone :-/ now imma have to set up ics :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] kenpen:
Hell yea

timboc2 shooter
[HTC EVO 3D] kdbutler77:
Lovin' this! Can't wait for a more stable build.
[HTC EVO 3D] xian_online:
I've been running this all day and all night (its 2am and i have nothing else to do,) and the previous build since xmas, and for what ever reason i don't know, the red box thing completely went away after the first few hours, i **** you not, i've been trying to replicated it, and i've been tweaking away on it, but no red box yet for a very long time (since early afternoon maybe.) This is not empirical data, im pretty sure its gone for me.

also, I happen to be an Opera guy (on all platforms but win hehe) and opera mobile works flawlessly as always :)

[edit] ok I lied, i just got a whole bunch, but hey it was been at least 12 hours of screwing around on everything I could...sorry.
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
Its probably just wifi getting stuck on and not really 3g
[HTC EVO 3D] vestaviajag:
I think he's right, it IS data. Market won't work, but I'm surfing, tweeting etc. in the middle of BFE. Tried scanning for wifi networks, nothing came up.

Since this ROM was helped by preludrew & his ROM doesn't have it's own thread, I see this being somewhat related. Sorry.
[HTC EVO 3D] sudhirkhanger:
Didn't work. Phone keeps going into sleep of death.
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
wht do u mean sleep of death?
[HTC EVO 3D] xian_online:
He prolly means the power button not working.
[HTC EVO 3D] kellybrf:
probably the same issue i described in post 23
[HTC EVO 3D] mitchellvii:
Sounds like a question for Philosophy 101 :)
[HTC EVO 3D] xlxcrossing:
Is this the same base as decks Rom? Are u gonna port the sensation xe leak?
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
no not the same this has hw acceleration
[HTC EVO 3D] sudhirkhanger:
Hehe Sorry I thought that was a correct term. The phone would switch itself off after a while.

Not to mean any disrespect but this HW accelerated ROM is less responsive to other ICS ROMs.

Thanks for working on it. Appreciate it.
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
I know mostly because kernel doesnt fully support hw acceleration currently which i am looking into but im not a kernel dev so chad's working on an ics kernel :)
[HTC EVO 3D] jsjr1988:
I just hope you going to put that data 3g soon
[HTC EVO 3D] bradxnght:
good news to see so much progress :D cant wait.
[HTC EVO 3D] kittykat858:
new kernel ready :)

FULL HW ACCEL
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Oh my... :O
[HTC EVO 3D] renzo.olivares:
Chad's a beast no more reboots or gfx issues :D trying to fix power button and volume buttons
[HTC EVO 3D] :
You guys are a good mix. Excited!
[HTC EVO 3D] sudhirkhanger:
Kernel was a games changer. Thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] kittykat858:
i will be happy when i fix usb :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Kirk0625:
chad and joelz you two are amazing!
[HTC EVO 3D] bigmikehd2:
man this from is flying for me. using adw ex for launcher, quickpic for gallery, opera mobile for browser and rock player for videos from SD and streaming and it is running so smooth. only problem is xda app won't install lol
[HTC EVO 3D] xian_online:
word my man, this guy knows whats up...dude, ics is not only working, but kicking ass, and i know i can never, i mean never look back... :)
[HTC EVO 3D] bigmikehd2:
I posted a video of just how snappy this rom is for me on youtube. Here is the link if anyone wants to check it out.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2uGurfoJAo&context=C32f56c5ADOEgsToPDskI3DzyahHBs4YoKSM6BbZPZ
[HTC EVO 3D] ChrisAC84:
Only issues I'm having so far are finding the different settings, lol. Everything is so different, and I love it! But seriously, I can't get TB to get root access, and also the ringtones/notifications I have on my SD card aren't showing up. Minor issues, but I hadn't seen either mentioned here yet
[HTC EVO 3D] METHOD1911:
Chris flash a old su to get it working posted in the thread.
[HTC EVO 3D] TruTechGeek:
is the random red box an easy fix? or does anyone know what its caused by?
[HTC EVO 3D] htcevo071595:
Hey guys, i keep getting a notification in the pulldown menu that says i have 5 new voicemail but when i check there is none, i also can't get rid of this notification; any ideas?
[HTC EVO 3D] JoshuaAlba:
I keep getting rebooted back to the ICS splash screen :( Oh well. Enjoy guys. I'll wait for the next update.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Wipe EVERYTHING before flashing so you get the same experience as everyone else

Sent from my HTC Evo 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] JoshuaAlba:
Of course I wiped. Even superwiped 3 times.
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Hboot 1.50? Fastboot into recovery? Complete download?
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
What is Hardware Acceleration? I'm curious because I just flashed preludedrew's ICS for our device. Battery works, web works, but no hardware accelerator because it's a closed source. This 1 here is a port. Just tryna do some research. Thank you.
[HTC EVO 3D] JoshuaAlba:
I have hboot 1.4 so i'm still on revolutionary. used twrp 2.0. Maybe it was a bad download. I'll try later again at work.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Where is Joelz with the beta... lol...
[HTC EVO 3D] EpicBarbecue:
anyone have a voicemail fix
[HTC EVO 3D] motoelliot:
Getting his 2.67 hrs of sleep... guy is a machine! But still needs a lil maintenance...

Sent from 3D A.W.E.S.O.M-O
[HTC EVO 3D] bckoolaid:
If you open the dialer then hit menu and go to settings, you can change the voicemail number.
[HTC EVO 3D] EpicBarbecue:
thank you koolaid
[HTC EVO 3D] AdhvanIt:
Drews build is just as fast. I flashed chads kernel on drews preview, and its flawless.
[HTC EVO 3D] METHOD1911:
Is gtalk working on that build
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
Dammit! I broke my F5 button.

Guess I'll have to hit F2 and F3 at the same time. Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] METHOD1911:
Or f4 and f1 lol
[HTC EVO 3D] knightwolf123:
off topic / wrong thread

if i install bootmanager do i have to set up my primary rom again?
[HTC EVO 3D] kdbutler77:
lmao. Too funny!:)
[HTC EVO 3D] MXPS:
I haven't got BootManager to work properly in the ICS ROM. I was able to install ICS and boot into it from the phone ROM, but not the other way around. It just freezes up and then FCs. The only way back to original phone ROM (that I've found) is to reboot into recovery and flash the update.zip in the /BootManager/PhoneROM folder.
[HTC EVO 3D] bballer71418:
Which kernel of Chad's did u flash?
[HTC EVO 3D] mrjaydee82:
+1 I'd like to know myself:-)
[HTC EVO 3D] motoelliot:
There's a scorch mark on my f5 and now my fingers are sore.... :( guess ill have to have my wife pleasure me... just not the same... :p

Sent from 3D A.W.E.S.O.M-O
[HTC EVO 3D] SketchyStunts:
im going to guess this ICS kernel http://www.androidfilehost.com/main...LS/QualComm_B_Series_Base - SHOOTER (EVO 3D)/
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
I'm so glad I didn't try to stay up for the beta! Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Honestly, I'm really trying to stay on topic, but...

If you want something to do instead of pressing f5, visit reddit.com and see the links.

With that, I bring an on topic question: Once cameras are working, will face unlock be ready? Or will that require more work?
[HTC EVO 3D] bmtdan:
I'm pretty sure were only waiting on cameras. I noticed the program is already available under lock screens .
[HTC EVO 3D] AdhvanIt:
check your pm. I don't want to hijack this thread.

Great work, Joel. Thanks for putting the time into this.
[HTC EVO 3D] benjimatt:
I've been using bootmanager all day. Just use one of the sd card slots and done people day you need to use ext4 but I'm using ext2 so that's up for debate. But it does work

---------- Post added at 08:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:36 AM ----------

I'm confused on why peoples gtalk isn't working correctly on this build.......its flawless for me.....
[HTC EVO 3D] MXPS:
I'm using an SD Card slot, but I'm also using ext2 so maybe I should try re-installing with ext4 this time. Anytime I run BootManager in ICS, it opens but it never lets me boot back to the phone ROM. It just FCs.
[HTC EVO 3D] grandpasghost:
Lovin this builld. Opera browser makes it even better. Has anyone taken notice if the Vibration is working? Mine does not appear to be, or else it's cloaked in some new form of ICS settings.. thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedgonzo:
Thanks

Joel,

Thanks for all your awesome work, it runs well, but not well enough to be my daily yet, I need a camera and not html issues! When this becomes my daily driver, expect a good size donation. You're an awesome dev and deserve the credit for everything you do. If I recall you're not old enough to drink, so get whatever you want with the donation, maybe put it towards a comp upgrade.

Patiently wait for a good stable build of this.

~Twisted
[HTC EVO 3D] :
HTML can be fixed with firefox and camera issues won't be fixed for a while.

@JoelZ, if you ever want to build a PC, I can find some really good and cheap parts but I need to know if you are going to be programming (compiling stuff, installing, etc.), gaming, etc.

Also, I'd recommend getting one of these badboys for your computer.
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
Really? I'm running this in the 2nd slot, no problem. Install zip(rom) check all 3 wipes and let it do it's thing(check status bar for completion) Install zip again(superuser) and boot into rom. Make sure you have a back up boot.img of phone rom otherwise you'll be stuck and have to go into recovery to reinstall a phone rom.
[HTC EVO 3D] joshk89:
This rom is killer. Can't wait for more progress. Ics is a lot cooler than I expected
[HTC EVO 3D] htabbach:
I think his issue is he may not have applied the SU fix, that's why he cannot run BM from the SD slot.
[HTC EVO 3D] twistedgonzo:
Saw the part about fixing it with another browser, but I run ICS on a my Nexus S 4G and actually like the ICS browser, I know it's silly, but I like the set up. The camera is a big thing, I use it daily. Plus I don't mind being patient. Joel does great work.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
What sucks is that I started using my camera a lot more recently... lol...
[HTC EVO 3D] Gibby1310:
Only having 2 issues, can not boot back to phone rom from inside boot manager have to do it from recovery. I do not have Talk installed anywhere. Titanium worked flawlessly, was able to restore all my apps.

Also in the mail client for exchange I like the new way of viewing folders, but the way you select folders other than inbox to sync is stupid and takes a lot of time when you have hundreds of folders.
[HTC EVO 3D] bdubble:
please work on the battery so ican daily drive this bad mofo
[HTC EVO 3D] SketchyStunts:
cant wait for a battery fix. I've now become spoiled at looking at a full battery all day. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Tornadobarrage:
Liked and fav
[HTC EVO 3D] nonpointtruth:
This is one of the things that has been fixed for his Beta 1 release..

We're all still waiting patiently for him to release it..
[HTC EVO 3D] alnzbail:
Comparing this rom and prelude from that he released there's a lot of difference battery seems to work on his no red bars no hw acc which means no prob using Gmail nd browser but has bugs as well maybe combining both roms would be a bad ass daily

Sent from Evo 3D on ice cream 4.0.3
[HTC EVO 3D] kenpen:
Are they willing to hold hands

timboc2 shooter
[HTC EVO 3D] Tornadobarrage:
Will movie studio be fixed early or will it be last with 3d/4g?
[HTC EVO 3D] EpicBarbecue:
Does anybody possibly know how to get Netflix working?
[HTC EVO 3D] METHOD1911:
Just testing to see if I can upload pics

WTSB HYDRO 3.5 raped my Evo 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] MXPS:
I flashed the SU fix and I'm still having the same issue. When I hit the "Boot ROM" button, the app hangs, a "Unfortunately, Boot Manager has stopped" error message from the OS appears, and kills the process.

I'm using SU v3.0.7 and the v3.0.3.2 binary.
[HTC EVO 3D] benjimatt:
yeah im testing preludes right now. Unfortunately it didnt play nice with boot manager :-( so im starting somethings all over
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
you and your pic uploads wtf lol ... can you PM me that wallpaper? or link it here.
[HTC EVO 3D] SketchyStunts:
If I hear another thing about bootmanager , I'm going to ****ing flip out.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Link it here! I'm a sucker for nice looking minimalistic wallpapers.
[HTC EVO 3D] ktrotter11:
Please link it
[HTC EVO 3D] vWvSTATICvWv:
LoL Why u mad?
[HTC EVO 3D] nonpointtruth:
Boot manager boot manager boot manager..
[HTC EVO 3D] METHOD1911:
Here you guys go have different colored ones

WTSB HYDRO 3.5 raped my Evo 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] METHOD1911:
WTSB HYDRO 3.5 raped my Evo 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] SketchyStunts:
come back to check for any fixes & whatnot & have to sift through countless posts on boot manager, computers, ect.
[HTC EVO 3D] tsluder8:
Freezing during boot animation...

Keeps freezing at the start of the boot animation. Multiple wipes, reflashes, etc. Any ideas? Thanks.
[HTC EVO 3D] :
It takes less than a few seconds to scroll through each page and look for JoelZ's avatar. You can also search his name.
[HTC EVO 3D] SketchyStunts:
your supposed to take my side damnit! lol j/k :p

I'm not really mad btw
[HTC EVO 3D] benjimatt:
So now i have tried both preludedraws rom and joelz rom. and "for me" i cant use either as a daily just yet.

in preludes rom the html issue is fixed which makes the new gmail work correctly. and the battery is fixed. also the data is always working These are three things i love about it. But with the launcher you can tell it doesnt have hardware acceleration because IMHO it crawls. I installed nova on preludes and it was unbearably slow. ok not that slow but slow enough where i didnt want to use it anymore.

one joelz releases beta 1 that has

"CM9 Launcher WITH MORE OPTIONS [Fixed Widgets Force Close]

Battery Fixed

Data Stable

MMS Fixed..

SU Fixed."

I can deal with gmail and stock browser being messed up by using old gmail and opera (which will end up being my default browser anyways)

joelz just feels the way I imagine ICS is suppose to be :-)