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[Galaxy S I9000 General] Simi69:
On the release of JVU which, barring bug fix updates, will likely be the last official rom released for the SGS, I'd like to write a few paragraphs in defence of Samsung.

The SGS at the time of it's release was primarily designed as a direct competitor to the iphone 3GS, and during it's lifespan has evolved to compete with the iphone 4 and other android handsets releaed since.

At the time of it's release the SGS offered several features that were not present in stock android 2.1 at that time, video calling, touchwiz framework & apps etc.

The inclusion of these features required the use of proprietary software and heavy modfication of android 2.1. Ironically the inclusion of these features, which helped the SGS become one of the fastest selling devices of that era, have caused Samsung great heartache throughout SGS's lifespan.

The heavy modifications made to the OS have made the SGS a nightmare to update. This first became apparent during protracted froyo development cycle and the subsequent update to gingerbread.

Another protracted development cycle to update, what is now an 18mth old phone is simply untenable. At the time of the froyo update Samsung only had a few android based phones on the market and had the extra time required to cater for SGS development.

Things have changed rapidly since then. Samsung now has dozens of android devices, including a new premier device (SGS 2) using touchwiz modified firmware, not to mention a plethora of tablets to cater for.

Their development teams simply lack the time required to update all the proprietary software embedded in the SGS operating system. It simply doesn't make sense to dedicated the extra time required to provide firmware for a device that is 18mths old and no longer on active sale (at least it shouldn't be), when you have other newer devices actively competing with the latest phone releases.

Samsung have stated that porting ICS to the Galaxy S would require the removal of certain features in order to make the device perform on par with it's current configuration.

At

best

if the SGS were to receive an ICS update it would lose some of the features that made it the bestseller it was and it would perform on par with gingerbread. It's not worth it.

JVU from early reports (haven't flashed it yet) seems to perform at least equal to (if not better than) the latest previous official firmware release and adds a host of extra features, including face unlocking, a new camera and gallery app etc. This offers I believe the best of both worlds. New features one would associate with a firmware update and the maintenance of current performance levels.

The alternative is an ICS update with the removal of touchwiz features and a protracted development period trying to return the SGS to the apex of it's performance capabilities.

tl;dr Give JVU a go, if you don't like it or have always hated touchwiz wait for CM9.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zimbilik:
Well Samsung's obsession with Apple will eventually cost them customers in the future. Yes they manufacture good phones but after-sale service is crap.

Yes as people have stated before it's very hard to get ICS on SGS. We get it.

But for me "dev team has no time to port ICS on SGS as they are busy with the other phones" is not acceptable. Instead of taking out/adding some parts of the phones and calling them Galaxy ABCD... why not focus on what you have in hand. Customer satisfaction would bring you more customers in my opinion. Yes we might be %10 who are pretty more active users(flashing roms etc.) but just because the mainstream user does not flash the custom roms or different stock roms, why should they not have the better qualities available? That' not ethical in my opinion.

Anyway. I'm pretty sure that my next phone will not be Samsung. I hated Touchwiz anyway since I saw better.

Waiting for CM9 or MIUI
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wGRV:
Looks like Sammy has already appointed online marketing geeks to keep on trolling against (Anti-Samsung) Galaxy S users !!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] telep:
Yey jvu has face recognition and note unlock, i dont need any more ICS, this is a dream come true, NOT!

Face recognition = fail gimmick that do nothing

Note unlock screen = crippled and ugly version of ICS unlock

Photo editor = finally i can ditch PS for phone editor :confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Visabusiness:
Completely agree. Who needs these improves??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
Don't be a stupid. Lockscreen is more useful than ics one. Face rec. is simply better than ics. We have already panaroma on camera. Hw accelerated browser. I replaced tw launcher with latest adw ex. Now using new circle folder feature greatly. Using ics keyboard. What left behind? Ok Im using roboto font. And I have a chance to flashing ics every second.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] telep:
When you say it like that i could stay on cupcake, and use roboto font, widgetlocker, opera mobile is still faster and smoother than stock browser. If you think that calling someone stupid on the internet makes you smart you are very wrong.

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zythus:
Maybe they won't give us official ICS but I think that devs will make a better version than samsung's official would be.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Besthiroeu:
Face unlock will always suck on SGS cuz of bad front camera. And it is a gimmick.

About general smoothnes ICS is way smoother then a GB. I'm atm on JVZ with Semaphore kernel, only reason why I went back is camera (samsung's camera app is way better) and some other bugs on ICS releases atm.

As soon as they got sorted I'm back on ICS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] matthewgwilt:
The face unlock on JVU is faultless... I cant see I9000 ICS face unlock ever being as good

Im on CM9 build 13

:)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zimbilik:
I haven't flashed JVU yet so I have a question.

how is the browser? Is it as good as the ics browser?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DeadSOL:
Hear, hear! We're all entitled to our own opinions. I totally support you, mate!

There are quite a few simpletons here who think that we HAVE to listen to their crippled opinions.

This thread is basically to complain about Samsung not giving us ICS. These people need to read the title and bugger off! Simple!

None of us are happy that our beast of a phone hasn't been given some preferential treatment. Give us something, Samsung. We really WANT to support you because we know that the Galaxy S trumps the iPhone 4 and we thank you for it!

For the support that we have given you (near 20 million sales of the Galaxy S, if I am not mistaken), we expect something in return, too!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gcuchiha:
Face unlock on jvu sucks elephant balls. when i gave it to some friends 4 out of 10 people could unlock it( 3guys and a girl) the rest were 4girls and 2guys.

So its probably useless for being a security feature.

But then this isn't official Rom it is leaked ,so maybe they will improve it before releasing official jvu firmware.

Besides teamhacksung is doing an awesome job on ics cm9.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] axlfsi:
Seriously?! ... no comment! :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] telep:
Pattern unlock is way better than face unlock, and it works in every condition, because front camera works OK only when there is good lighting, and it's more convenient to use.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Litesorrows:
What happened to not being able to call 911 when on ICS. That's the only reason Cyanogenmod Dropped the Galaxy Devices from CM9. I'm not a Sammy User, but I feel its stupid how a device with Specs exactly like the can't get ICS due to TW. Id just use an AOSP Build, and screw TW.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] axlfsi:
Of course, the face unlock feature it's rather just for fun... mainly because it is useless in the dark (jesam u pravu, care? :) ).
[Galaxy S I9000 General] chenthu:
Down Samsung

Its Not even 2 years since the release of SGS... and SGS was a favourite to many, it was also the best selling phone. Now that Samsung has achieved what they want, its pretty expected that customers need is something they don't care about. Talking about unsupported specs is B*** S***.."YOU CAN'T BLUFF us SAMSUNG"..(Custom Roms of ICS are blazing fast)..Just because your sales and market share has gone up, that doesn't mean you will always stay at the top..You couldn't even support the phone which was a gamechanger at its time..and one of the best (still is)

I think its time we dumped Samsung, like how they have dumped their customers (us). The same would happen to other future samsung mobiles..

But nothing is lost, not everyone has abandoned us, there are many who still give us life Like the Developers and those who make these developers come together.. People like One Cosmic and team, Teamhacksng and many more...

To make things better Google has acquired Motrola Mobility, so there is hope, Google can provide with best hardware through their Motorola division and best software with proper and honest updates through android team will be one of the best.. and that's the only reason i have scrapped my plans to buy Galaxy Nexus (though its partly supported by Google, profits of it still go to Samsung).. though this doesn't help in anyway over SGS, atleast our future mobile purchase get to be satisfactory and well supported... all we could do is hope that Motorola under Google delivers and not dump us like Samsung

I am never buying a Samsung mobile again..pity you what you couldn't do with paid work force and so called nice infrastructure.. Voluntary Custom Rom Developers have done it free and in spare time and that too in a very short span of time..

Your Value Pack leak was just an eyewash and diversion... your tactics won't work.. I am completely frustrated.. atleast if you had given out a leaked ICS version unofficially, could have helped a lot for the developers...But i know can't expect so high from a company with low ethics.

Finally, Hats off to Google, private developers and Down with you Samsung

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No Official Value Pack nor ICS update is on the cards for SGS <--- Officially announced.. you could Google and check for the news.

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Agree with you completely ... :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nCoder:
I don't care about ICS for my SGS if this latest firmware has proper HW acceleration, better multi-tasking, is fast enough and XDA developers continue to deliver so great improved ROMs. The only thing that I ask is for them to get proper support from Samsung.

Anyway, this is the only non-nexus device that got so many updates, and I recognize that from the beggining, Samsung really listened to our complaints, and did its best to always deliver better ROMs.

Thank you Samsung, Google and the xda developers that make our SGS one of the best devices.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Cyberdyne systems:
Exactly, at least make us a good Gingerbread if that's all we are going to get.

I am pleased by the amount of firmware Samsung have released. I think for me the best time was the upgrade to 2.2.1 JPY, it suddenly transformed the phone and it worked how i felt it should have from the begining.

I would like to think they will read the views of the users and consider the success of this phone and try to make us an ICS as has been suggested.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] telep:
I doubt that jvu has full hardware accelration, even the browser on ICS is way smoother, smoothness of UI is just incomparable, i installed on one sgs JVU and on second one Build 13 ICS, and tried both, side by side.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrAndroid12:
Samsung did a very good job with Android 2.3.4+'s browser. Absolutely smooth scrolling with a 720p video playing. I just wished samsung can implement that onto other aspects on android that lags
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ukstridervaio:
If Samsung want to beat Apple then they will have to take a leaf out of their book, ios5, the latest releaes is available for all iphone 3gs and 4 handsets that are at least, in the case of the 3gs 2 years old. So come on Samsung where is you customer loyalty? you epect it from us.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] neoMJ:
lost faith in Samsung

It's incredibly unbelievable that a top notch device from last year is unable to handle the latest Android release.

I have totally lost faith on Samsung about their Android devices. I will definitely look elsewhere when I'm going to buy my next Android device.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zerion123:
So the Nexus S have more memory? As it might gonna have ics?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fezvez:
Even though I was pretty sad to discover that Samsung had no plans to port ICS to the SGS (and they discontinued the Value Pack apparently), it forced me to move my arse and install teamhacksung's CM9 ROM!

So yeah, I would have preferred if they took the time to take care of their 20 millions+ SGS users, but the current ports are excellent!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TheImmortal1983:
It 'hurts' when i see how often we (as users of any kind of gadget) are forced to upgrade what is though a potent piece of technology due to 'moral usage' :(

I would've felt a bit different if a few of the tons of Samsung employers would've worked on a port themselves, but eh...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrAndroid12:
Galaxy S is pretty much the same as Nexus S, perhaps 90%+ hence "with google" written on the back cover. They both use the same chipset, both GPU and RAM are "Soc" [correct me if I'm wrong], so RAM on the Nexus S is also 512MB. I also believe 512MB of RAM has 2 partition on it: 329MB user accessible while the second 128MB partition is reserved for the GPU (source, Wikipedia, PowerVR)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] andybandy:
And CM9 for SGS would probably be faster than Samsung's own port anyway :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TigerCourage:
Yeah guys, but just think about it... If those devs buy new phones, we're done for...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Sval:
RIP my SGS T_T
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zimbilik:
Dear Samsung,

You are obsessed with competing with Apple right?

Guess what, they still support Iphone 3G.

And you?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrAndroid12:
iPhone 3GS, not iPhone 3G
[Galaxy S I9000 General] r!nch:
So terribly dissatisfied

Given the impossibly slow speed of updates from Samsung, we'd have been waiting months for ICS to be released officially anyway, by which time (a) I'd have a new phone, and (b) the SGS will be more than 2 years old (c) the grey hairs in my beard will have multiplied
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wGRV:
Even after releasing more and more leaked ROMs and KIES updates, still Samsung can't eradicate FC bugs!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DavideFV:
One of the best phone on the market and still my favourite.

Why Samsung? If Nexus S can ICS, SGS can do the same!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] schinden:
hmm, all Samsung ROMs are a "bit" laggy - especially Gingerbread.

I'm using CM9 at the moment, it's ok, and I think MIUI is also fine.

So our SGS will not die out there ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] drekas:
For those who are wannawhere, RC3 Onecomic's is out :)

That's all we ever gonna get ICS like.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Funnnny:
Nexus S running AOSP, SGS run on TouchWiz.

If you ask Samsung to remove TouchWiz, it's like buying a car with two engine (V2.3), and then to upgrade it to a better engine (V4), they remove one.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] siddbera:
This is absolutely BULLSHITT ...!!!!

Galaxy S and Nexus S have absolutely similar hardware configuration ..

Hence coming out with an official ICS for Nexus S and not for Galaxy S is ridiculous

Thank god we have Onecosmic and teamhacksung to our rescue ...

Onecosmic latest ICS release RC3 is brilliant ....

wish the official guys had taken conscience of millions of galaxy s owners
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rajeshbabushrestha:
SAMSUNG should give ICS Update for Galasy S

"HIT THANKS IF I HELPED YOU"

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Awesome I must Say... I have used Onecosmic RC2.11 and now using Teamhacksung Build 13... Samsung should hire these guys and release official rom or else release source code to help them release better ports :)

"HIT THANKS IF I HELPED YOU"
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ilabs:
Hey guys, under worst case scenario, what if we write a petition to samsung to release the hardware drivers for sgs (or rather any phone) once they withdraw support for it.. That way it would be much easier for the devs to make roms..

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zimbilik:
Well I read that Nexus S is getting ICS this week.

So given the similarities(not the touchwiz, the hardware), could this mean that the ICS teams can make a more stable build with everything working?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] asdsadas2010:
This is nonsense, if Nexus S is getting it why can't Galaxy S get the same thing???

2 possible reasons = either they are lazy to pay extra money for the time the programmers will use to code ICS for i9000 or they're trying to force the i9000 users to buy a new phone

Curse you Samsung!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Skiess:
Apparently, samsung is going to do something :

"After initially saying that the original Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab 7 would not be given an upgrade path to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, Samsung had subsequently backtracked on its comments and said that it was still evaluating the possibility. Now, despite Samsung’s efforts, it seems that the company’s first generation flagship smartphone and tablet duo would not be given an official ROM to Android 4. Instead, the latest speculation has it that Samsung would offer a Value Pack upgrade rather than an official full upgrade.

The Value Pack would bring certain elements of Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich to the Gingerbread build that the Galaxy S and Tab would run on. The upgrade would deliver a better overall user experience to the devices, improving web browser, multitasking, and adding new widgets to the mix. It’s unclear if any of the native built-in apps would also be getting upgraded as well.

Samsung offered a similar value pack upgrade for its older Bada OS handsets as well.

The controversy lies in the fact that Samsung may not want to offer Ice Cream Sandwich to the original first-generation smartphone and tablet because Android 4.0 coupled with the company’s custom TouchWiz UI would bog down the system and may not offer a satisfactory user experience. The problem with this is that developers have been able to port the native Ice Cream Sandwich ROM without any customizations to these devices and the performance was good, suggesting that TouchWiz may be the culprit. That said, many are hoping that Samsung would opt instead to release an optional upgrade to the devices without TouchWiz."

Source : gottabemobile.com
[Galaxy S I9000 General] skythra:
That news is so old it's already looking like it's been redacted and the 'value pack' was released unofficially only a short while ago and hadn't been maintained in weeks. XDA had news on it not a few days ago.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] christian667:
I read that Samsung mentioned on the CES they are still testing if a stock ICS will be possible.. believe they will release a version without TW, but not in near future ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] poomctp:
Just installed it, really smooth thanks to onecosmic team
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Zimbilik:
Can you tell me the gps performance? I'm on Mintberry Miui and it has a one hell of a gps performance with iGo.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] silly83:
GPS is very good at onecosmic's ICS
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Sever94:
I look forward to ICS!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ldq:
Would be a real ass move not to update the Samsung Galaxy S with ICS. It is thoroughly capable of running ICS, given they leave the rom stock and just add minor things for branding. Besides, why put touchwiz. It's not like they did it with the nexus. But then again, that was google's samsung phone... I have the feeling they will give up on us an not let ICS upgrades for SGS, basically because the bloatware they put is their signature. They are obligated to do so, even with 10 milion screaming people that demand ICS. But we'll see.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Lukiqq:
Really can't understand you guys... Samsung has given us three completely different Android versions:

2.1 Eclair

2.2 Froyo

2.3 Gingerbread

and many of them had their subversion:

2.2.1

2.2.2

2.3.2

2.3.3

2.3.4

2.3.5

2.3.6

And you still want more...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ldq:
Its human nature to do so.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TigerCourage:
Where did you read that?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MrAndroid12:
We're heavy demander :) We expect every high end smartphones in the market to receive updates until hardware is heavily outdated and would not run higher versions of android properly.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] wGRV:
neither of them free from bugs!!

If Nexus can get ICS, SGS should have the same treatment!

If you are happy with current Fw, better don't comment against ICS update for SGS !
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kryox:
gingerbread is buggy... give us ics for our sgs's :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Besthiroeu:
Every Gb Rom I used tends to freeze over time to time. That things I dont experience on ICS roms.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] edy_priyanto:
I thinks it's better if we don't buy any samsung mobile phone anymore....no matter they will support our SGS with ICS or not. Just be realistic, they will not release any ICS firmware for SGS especially with many variant of their new products which still running gingerbread.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Besthiroeu:
Thing is, all other manufacturers are same or worse exept google phones ofc. Also if Samsung continues to make best phones on the market I'll still buy them.

I guess new generation smartphones (SGS III and further) will have awesome hardware so Samsung wont be able to say 'We cant update due lack of Rom/Ram or whatever else'.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] jnks123:
Hi guys ,

I really don't understand why you are waiting from samsung to still support one phone that is almost two years old. Why are you waiting from samsung to release ICS for GT-I9000 when we have it on our phones from november( i use ICS as a daily rom from 20 november). Both the versions from onecosmic and from hacksungs team are amazing. I think it's worth to try them. Anyway I'm not going to go back in gingerbread with crap value packs. ICS is super for me.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AeroplaneMode:
Hey there, I use onecosmics ROM since beta2 and I can't believe what my phone is capable of :) Just flashed RC3.1. Unfortunately I can't give Feedback in the developers section 'cause I just registered -.- You may give it a try.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] troyan1988:
That's right. They're doing wonderful builds, so don't complain - just try them.

BTW. It was pretty clear for me, that samsung won't upgrade sgs to ics, because they want to sell sgs2 and don't forget sgs3 is coming ;) anyway I'll choose google phone next time
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Jackmax32:
Where did u read that??

I can't seem to find it on the net..

Link please.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cspiby:
He's just trolling, ignore him.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TigerCourage:
wtf!?

http://samsung-updates.com/467-rumour-ice-cream-sandwich-fot-gt-i900x-series-confirmed-is-it/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ilabs:
I really hope that's true!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cretii:
at least samsung could give us money to buy s2 if there is no update to ics for s :)) joking
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tomjodh:
Who cares? TW sucks.. I'm happy with my ICS rom.. Can somebody explain to me why we want an original firmware upgrade to ICS from Samsung!?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AurosGamma:
Yeah, I personally prefer Custom ROMs, once you try one, you'll never want to look back.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TigerCourage:
Some people like stock, like me. It's more stable. They at least should release the drivers so we can have better cooked roms.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Whitest:
Yes - in my opinion stock is the only option for long time use... everything else is nice to try, but then often shows disadvantages after some time.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] osazone:
I heard this:

http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/27/2663320/samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-ics-upgrade-review