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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dellbell:
Question (not for Globatron!--he's busy!):

I'm a noob to the View. Really like it, even with GB. Also, like what I've seen of HC. Understand that the new hboot provided with the HC OTA creates a one-way street: no way back to GB (if that's desired) and, presumably, no way to any other mods created here.

What I'm wondering is, does anyone know whether the new hboot is irretrievably this way, or whether this is a "for now" problem, one that will be worked out by Valentine's Day or St. Patrick's Day? (From the old Palm days, I have learned that it is sometimes best to (not-so-patiently) wait...) Also, while I realize that some of you are custom ROM partisans, is this mostly about making sure that there isn't an impediment to an eventual upgrade to ICS--regardless of whether HTC/Sprint wants that to happen--or not?

The particular reason that I'm posing this is that I like my View, and, reading the instructions here (which, for me, are near to being in Danish), I have visions of trying to do this, and turning it into a brick, soft or hard. (Command line is not one of my strengths, and my son assures me that this is all well beyond my capabilities or needs.)

Thoughts?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spartan1987:
I posted a how to with links a couple pages back which, with reading, should get you s-off and on HC without too much duress.

We are trying to ensure that we:

1. Always have perm-root

2. Stay s-off

3. Able to install custom roms, kernels, themes, etc.

4. Be able to continue future development, to include Android 4.0, on the View

Remember, there is no cmd.... ;)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dellbell:
Saw it, and thanks--but still probably beyond my (very modest) skilz.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
Going back and forth between GB and HC?

It CAN be worked out as Globatron proves now and then.

Is it hard? Yes, at the moment.

Will it be easy? Unless Globatron or someone else will make it 1, 2 or max 3 click process, it will be not. At the moment it does require command line + a lot of specific Unix/Linux skills and knowledge.

If you are good at following instructions, you can install HC and keep your s-off, root and cwm no problem.

Just don't be adventurous and over-confident like me. I thought that my Nandroid backups made me invincible. I was wrong.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Once the wrinkles are ironed out the beginner version of the upgrade will be just like a normal RUU.

The rollback hopefully be like two RUUs if not it will probably be a install these things from a list and then "double click this"
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] robpet2:
if im already rooted and running a customer rom - clevernsertname ( i think thats the name of it ), i can just skip to running the RUU.exe file ??? where the line is at above.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dellbell:
Thanks, everyone. I passed on Firefox Aurora for Android too. I'll wait--while also holding off on the OTA upgrade--which should be available for a while.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] robpet2:
quick question... i took the OTA update according to the steps, check fastboot prior to doing this, disconnected from fastboot ( closed cmd ), reconnected to pc while in bootloader and now CMD wont connect or recognize any commands..

can i reboot thru bootloader and go to recovery and flash the mini ruu zip, the superuser zip, and then the custom honeycomb that was provided earlier in this thread by godzson / newkidd ???

IM STUCK AND DONT KNOW WHICH ROAD TO TAKE ON THIS ONE !!!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
rename the mini ruu to PG41IMG.zip and using some other method copy it to the root of the sdcard, put it back in the view and reboot to bootloader, it will as if you want to apply the update. Accept the update (do this bootloader update twice) then it should allow you to boot to hc.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] robpet2:
THANKS BRO.. i was thinking that would work, just wasnt sure.. been stuck over here with a nice paperweight for a few.. and then on top of that my damn memory card starting acting up.. now i might have to throw this 16gb card in the tablet instead of the 8gb that had all my stuff backed up with
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] raed81:
if i am rooted with s off but still on stock no custom rom installed and if i check for and install the OTA hc update what will happen ?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
You will get soft-brick.

To be safe, run and install RUU.

Follow the procedure in the first post.

You will be able to recover from the soft-brick.

This way you will get HC with s-off and CWM, and after applying SU zip you'll have root privileges.

Been there.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] brashmadcap:
So I have an interesting one

I have done everything according to the instructions and honeycomb is running fine. When I reboot into the bootloader, it shows me that the device is S-OFF and I have had no problems whatsoever installing and running honeycomb; it went off without a hitch. However I am unable to flash the superuser zip because somehow a recovery isn't installed. When I adb reboot recovery or attempt to load the recovery from the boot menu, I just get taken to an image of a tablet with a red triangle and exclamation point. Tried to push su to /system/bin but it's a RO filesystem, I don't know what the partitions are and if I can even remount them without root. Any suggestions on how I can flash the superuser app? Thanks for all of your help guys, very much appreciated!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wolfpack612:
sounds you don't have custom recovery installed. i had to run the express mini ruu twice (back to back) for all OK. if your still soff,

#just boot into bootloader

#select fastboot

#extract the recovery.img file from express mini ruu.zip

#place it in your fastboot directory

#open up cmd and run fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

this should flash cwm recovery.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] martinlu78:
I am sorry to adding up one more people who has trouble to back to 2.3.4 GB... actually when I stay in 2.3.4, I've sucessfully to go back to S-ON & update to HC through OTA, then , I get Rooted last night, so now it's unlocked & S-ON HC, How Can I get back to 2.3.4 ..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] medkid:
at the moment, actually, you can unlock your View's bootloader by htcdev.com (although it isn't in the support list, but it DOES work). That means you won't need revolutionary :) to s-off your device
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] megabyte2365:
Thanks for all the assistance and support. I was able to upgrade this morning following all these posts. Thanks again!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] robpet2:
Flashing the mini ruu ( renamed pcimg41) 2 times in the bootloader worked for me, then flashed the superhero thru recovery, worked and got my tablet to boot up honeycomb stock rooted. Now gotta wait for a customized honeycomb rom. Thanks globatron for the steps. It's actually the same way I had to root my replacement Tmobile G1back in the day.

I must say that the non rooted version of honeycomb rums faster on the tablet ( my daughter had the same tablet without root cause she doesn't need root at the moment, runs lightning fast, boots up in seconds)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dmunseyautotech:
I haven't taken the HC road yet. I have plenty of experience with adb and cmd just haven't felt the need to upgrade yet. I wanted to go ahead and give thanks to Globatron for supporting those who have had issues. It's not easy to find a developer that is so supportive. Thanks again I think I speak for most of us here when I say we all appreciate the help and support.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Div033:
So confirm or deny:

If I buy a new View soon and it comes with HC pre-installed with S-On, I can unlock it via HTCDev and run through this wonderful little guide to get rooted HC?

I'm a prospective buyer and I've read through this entire thread without being able to draw this conclusion. The OP states you just already be S-Off so that's why I ask.

Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Prevlin:
I had to flash my recovery too. Once I grabbed the right recovery file it worked like a charm. Now I'm rooted running HC and a lot of bloatware and sprint stuff is gone (I use my view wifi only. Picked mine up at 1saleaday.com)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] marquitoss:
That was so easy- Tip for newbies

Followed the instructions and I had Honeycomb in less than 30 minutes.

I did the upgraded before and got to the soft brick. So I found an RUU and got it back to normal.

If you haven't tried the update yet, just go ahead and update to Honeycomb. When you get to the soft brick state, follow the instructions.

I had a problem. I could not get to recovery to perform the superuser update.

I just ran the command:

fastboot oem rebootRUU

fastboot flash zip express-mini-ruu.zip

Just make sure the express-mini-ruu.zip file is located in the same folder as the fastboot file

---------- Post added at 04:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:28 PM ----------

I had issues getting through all the steps from htcdev.com, so I used revolutionary to S-off and all is fine now
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] hanzohittori:
My device is s-off. I ran the RUU just fine. After installing the first OTA I went to install the honeycomb OTA. After the initial progress bar got 1/3 accross it just hung on a black screen with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. I can force it to reboot and it comes back into GB just fine.

I tried the OTA a few more times with the same result. I even ran the RUU once more and ended up with the same result.

Any ideas on whats wrong?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
The first part is correct, the unlock does work. The second is not. Unlock and S-OFF are not by any means the same thing. With the unlock you can't flash radios, you can't properly flash a rom from recovery and a bunch of other things, really the only useful reason for doing the unlock is becasue it is then possible to roll back to gingerbread so you can do an S-OFF upgrade.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
There is a bit more to it than that, but you definitely will not be stuck.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] medkid:
how long does it take to flash this custom rom via sdcard in recovery mode ?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
What custom rom? There is no custom rom in this thread.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] marquitoss:
Flash stock recovery image

You need to flash the original recovery, from sprint. You can find it in the OTA zip file. open the OTA and look for firmware.zip. the filename is recovery.img

Put view in bootloader mode and flash it.

By the way, I have attached the file. just extract and flash

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] medkid:
so please explain in detail, how to roll back from hc to gb ? thanks a lot
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
No, I am not ready to release a procedure for this yet.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] marquitoss:
Flash stock recovery image

Just flash the recovery image from stock. You can find it in the OTA zip file.

Open the OTA and look for firmaware.zip. Extract the recovery.img from there and copy it to the fastboot folder.

I assume you know how to flash it
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] CHRISTOPHERg:
No problems here, thanks globatron running HC
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Anyone who wants to downgrade to GB right now, I'll do downgrades for the next few hours.

I'm working on the procedure to make it non-trivial but for now I'm not going to release it, user mistakes in the current procedure would mean true bricks so I'm not going to release until it can either be done as a recovery zip install or a RUU style downgrade.

If you want me to downgrade you, you will need to have temviewer installed and have an RUU downloaded, here is the best one to use:

https://rapidshare.com/files/546105...1.0531_NV_2.28_SPCS_release_198141_signed.exe
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] RedWingsFan:
Got my View yesterday and it is currently at stock GB 2.3.3.

I want to go to HC but want root.....for obvious reasons. I've seen a few step by steps published for different situations and have information overload.

What I'd like to do is go thru the process to get to rooted HC but get a nandroid of rooted stock GB just in case.

Whats my best bet?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
Stuck

Hmm, I decided to give S-OFF HC a try today. I'm stuck between a soft brick so far.

Right now I'm still S-OFF'ed on revolutionary, HBOOT is 6.14.5555

I can access fastboot fine, but I can't seem to access CWM recovery after flashing the mini ruu.

Here's what I did, in chronological order:

1. Stock S-ON on 1.18.651.1 (2.3.3 initial release)

2. S-OFF'ed using Revolutionary, Root & CWM flash successfully achieved. Made nandroid

3. Ran official RUU from flyer sticky RUU thread, for 1.22.651.1, success

4. Updated OTA to 1.22.651.2

5. Flashed CWM again, made another nandriod (This might have been my mistake if I wasn't supposed to flash CWM)

6. Downloaded HC OTA 2.23.651.1, ran OTA

7. Kept getting Blue android + yellow exclamation mark in triangle.

Looked like this, except the android is blue:

8. Read through this thread, fastboot flashed the stock HC recovery.img extracted from 2.23.651.1 OTA

9. Now I got a soft brick successful, White background and green HTC.

10. Ran instructions with mini-ruu in this thread, fastboot oem rebootRUU and fastboot flash zip express-mini-ruu.zip. I did get the error also, so flashed the mini ruu twice and it worked fine (log below:)

D:\android\HTC-EvoView\s-off-honeycomb>fastboot flash zip express-mini-ruu.zip
sending 'zip' (5055 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.542s]
writing 'zip'...
(bootloader) zip header checking...
(bootloader) zip info parsing...
(bootloader) checking model ID...
(bootloader) checking custom ID...
(bootloader) start image[hboot] unzipping for pre-update check...
(bootloader) start image[hboot] flushing...
(bootloader) [RUU]WP,hboot,0
(bootloader) [RUU]WP,hboot,100
FAILED (remote: 90 hboot pre-update! please flush image again immediately)
finished. total time: 7.057s

D:\android\HTC-EvoView\s-off-honeycomb>fastboot flash zip express-mini-ruu.zip
< waiting for device >
sending 'zip' (5055 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.545s]
writing 'zip'...
(bootloader) zip header checking...
(bootloader) zip info parsing...
(bootloader) checking model ID...
(bootloader) checking custom ID...
(bootloader) start image[recovery] unzipping & flushing...
(bootloader) [RUU]UZ,recovery,0
(bootloader) [RUU]UZ,recovery,21
(bootloader) [RUU]UZ,recovery,49
(bootloader) [RUU]UZ,recovery,71
(bootloader) [RUU]UZ,recovery,97
(bootloader) [RUU]UZ,recovery,100
(bootloader) [RUU]WP,recovery,0
(bootloader) [RUU]WP,recovery,100
OKAY [ 8.109s]
finished. total time: 8.656s

D:\android\HTC-EvoView\s-off-honeycomb>fastboot reboot-bootloader
rebooting...
finished. total time: 0.305s

11. Stuck here: I keep getting the white background and green HTC soft brick every time I try to access recovery.

Things I've tried:

A. fastboot flash gingerbread CWM

B. fastboot flash mini-ruu again

C. fastboot flash the HC OTA 2.23.651.1, I get an error:

D:\android\HTC-EvoView\s-off-honeycomb>fastboot flash zip express-2.23.651.1.zip

sending 'zip' (222560 KB)...
OKAY [ 21.810s]
writing 'zip'...
(bootloader) zip header checking...
(bootloader) zip info parsing...
FAILED (remote: 24 parsing android-info fail)
finished. total time: 29.457s

any tips or idea what I could do next? :p
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Now you're in a bit of a mess. Teamviewer because if you're as badly messed up as this sounds you'll have to roll back to gingerbread and start again, but there is a slim chance of avoiding that.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] hanzohittori:
Thank you so much for you help.

I flashed the recovery.img from your attachment and got the same exact results. Any other ideas of what I can try?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
Second flash of CWM was a mistake.

Everything else was correct.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] robpet2:
took the 12 steps out..

if you have issues flashing, post in thread, and get help..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
So..why it is faster than the original procedure from the first post?

Am I missing something?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] robpet2:
its my 12 step program.. i had a problem with Fastboot via the pc, and this way worked.. great for those that have issues with FastBoot via pc.. and I think a NOOB can follow this way also without bricking their tablet..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] brashmadcap:
This worked perfectly.

Thanks a million, I thought to do this myself but it's always nice to have someone else verify that this will in fact work. Hope you had a wonderful holiday and thank you to all the hard working devs that made this possible. I am so grateful! Again, THANK YOU!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Joelski144:
Can somebody please post a link to a working download so I can get a working RUU? Every time I have attempted to download the thing (The full stock express rom), it stops! Pulling hair out over here. Please??
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
robpet2, I realize that you're only trying to help, but I do not want PGIMG used for this procedure, please remove the post.

I also don't want any alternate instructions at this point. It's hard enough to deal with one procedure at this level of readiness without having people doing other things. As things stand I know exactly where someone is in the procedure if they go wrong, with alternate methods I will not.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
OK, thanks for the explanation.

For most people, myself included, the original procedure should work.

If not, they can try your 12 steps.

Enjoy!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] robpet2:
no problem.. def understand
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Thanks, much appreciated.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
"Oh, you gonna carry that weight,

Carry that weight

a long time.."
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] marquitoss:
USE Honeycomb Recovery

I have attached the honeycomb recovery. Just extract and flash it
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] marquitoss:
USE Honeycomb Recovery

Go to page 17 and use the honeycomb recovery. Just extract and flash
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] wolfpack612:
hey no problem, just passing on the knowledge learned from others here :) hope you had a great holiday as well, I know I did!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Not the solution in this case, but usually the correct thing to do at that point.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
I need a tester tomorrow for a simplified upgrade procedure, the pre-upgrade configuration should be revolutionary S-OFF. I don't care what ROM or OTA software level you're on. This will be a direct path upgrade.

I'll need something in the order of 90 minutes of your time assuming you have reasonable download speeds.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Maine_Coon:
Me can do it.

I trust you Globatron.

If something goes wrong, you'll fix it I am sure.

Send me PM if you accept me as your beta tester.

I have a basic cable Internet, not too great, but still much better than DSl.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
Thanks for all the work, globatron. Got it back up and running after the minor wrench I threw into it.

I'm pretty sure I misread the original step #3 in this procedure, when I upgraded completely from stock 2.3.3 (1.18.651.1) and did a CWM backup before running honeycomb OTA. I should have ran the RUU for gingerbread again before doing that. Make sure your 1.22.651.2 is completely kosher at stock without anything before going for honeycomb OTA!!

Beware of flashing multiple recoveries. I went off and flashed different recoveries per advice in this thread, not necessarily the best route to take.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Cool, your internet speed was good enough so I'm happy with that.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] huntman21014:
what su do we flash?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] J03Y4G:
I'm available from 7am MT to 1pm MT I just restored to stock GB with the RUU file you pointed me to if you don't mind I'd like to test, I'll leave my view stock and won't mess with anything I'll just wait till then.

You can tweet me at J03Y4G or Email.

Oh YES I have a Premium MegaUpload account and a high speed connection which would make downloading a breeze maybe 5-10 minutes for a 500mb file
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] spiicytuna:
I seem to have lost my microphone with the HC update. Anyone else? In camcorder there is no sound when recording. Yes I have the option checked.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] elrooster:
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Jay321:
i can get the first command working but the second one doesnt work. is the zip file supposed to be on my tablet?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Jay321:
i get error:cannot load express-mini-ruu.zip
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] CHRISTOPHERg:
The mini RUU zip needs to be in the fastboot tools folder. You push the zip from your pc to the tablet
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Nope, I just tested it and audio was fine when recording a video
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ExBrasil:
Any reason why when I try to rebootRUU in cmd it tells me that the device is not ready?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] graffixnyc:
Is your tablet in fastboot mode when you try running the command?

It sounds like you're not in fastboot mode on the tablet
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] megabyte2365:
I had the same problem as loose files, then I moved the whole uncompressed folder into the Fastboot folder and it ran fine.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ExBrasil:
I'm almost certain it is.

Plugged into comp by USB, I hold down power and volume down button until I get to white screen with skateboarding droids,

Select fastboot, it then says Fastboot USB in red letters.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] CHRISTOPHERg:
you need to have someting like this

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/141/fastboot.jpg

run cmd, find the path of the fastboot tool and connect the tablet in fastboot usb.

until then it's time to use the fastboot commands
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kaijura:
Not fully sure if this matters, but if you're running cmd from windows, you gave it administrator permissions right?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Whoareyou:
Hey, when i flash the OTA, it reboots and i guess flashes recovery/hboot , then goes to the HTC screen and never goes away :( PLEASE HELP! I cant even get into fastboot!

EDIT: MAnaged to get to fastboot, but it checks for updates and does "Update Gift" Whats that?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
I'll still release but I refuse to teach the basics of adb and fastboot in a "not for general users" procedure. I would also appreciate if others do not try to either. If you don't know how to use these tools then you should not be running this procedure because you are likely to end up in a state from which you are unable to recover by yourself which often means I have to intervene remotely which takes up time I should be spending on making the easier procedure work.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Your not in fastboot you are in hboot select fastboot from the menu,you are at the soft brick stage.