yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] scariola:
No need to give up your license, torrents applenty handle this application.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] boxmax:
Now the question : what we have to do after that ?

add : i opened .so but hard code ...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tribulattifather:
Well, here is what you'll see if you open it with ida.

I opened gralloc.msm8660.so.

I copied all data into this .txt file (best to open with note++):
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sbryan12144:
Well, what I would do is compare the Sensations hw files from a stock Sense 3.0 rom with the hw files that works on our HD2 (bravo ones I believe). Then we find the differences. Then we take the Sensation hw files from the Sense 3.0 RUU and compare it with the new hw files. From there we should be able to see what HTC changed from the hw libs and then we try to patch those changes on the bravo hw files. I'd do it, but I have no experience with arm disassembling.

Trib, since you went to school for it, can you try to do the steps I gave? If you need a good differ application for windows, Beyond Compaer 3 works amazingly.

Let me know guys.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] boxmax:
i use Beyond Compaer for gralloc.msm8660.so && gralloc.qsd8k.so .....

toooo deferent
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sbryan12144:
Were they disassembled? and we need to find out what HTC changed from gralloc.msm8660.so from Sense 3.5 2.3.5 to 4.0.1.

I have the RUU's and IDA Pro (cracked version ;) ). If someone will show me what Trib did you get the text form of it, I can make and git for the HW changes and patches. Regardless, the key here is finding out what was changed. Otherwise we're stuck here guessing what they did.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dungphp:
Is this soft ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sbryan12144:
Yeah. A buddy of mine gave me the cracked version of it, so if you need it, send me a PM.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] boxmax:
amazing app && support smali code :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sbryan12144:
Yeah. It's a life saver. Saved me soooo much time developing. Basically anything that can be read in Notepade++ can be read in Beyond Compare 3. It reads hex too, but can't edit it :(
[HD2 Android NAND Development] boxmax:
but can edit with IDA Pro 6.x ...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sbryan12144:
yup. he's getting both programs a PM now ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] santa.phatt:
Awsome guys....good luck on your hardwork!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] light_n_roses:
actually as there is a so great concentration of "big brain" here I hope that this porting will came soon :PPPPPPPPPPP

Also I hope that both sbryan and mark brungs haret support for thei kernel !!!!
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tribulattifather:
Great idea. I'm home now and I'll take a look.

Also, since the software liscense for the Ida Pro/Hex-Rays was from school, I read up on how I can use this software on as many computers that I want to ^>^

P.M. me if you'd like my software so "I can use" it on your computer ;)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] light_n_roses:
here some pics http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sensation-ice-cream-sandwich-w-sense-image-gallery ...it seems like they have ported sense 3.5 on ICS without no big changes....sense 4.0 is still far behind for now...
[HD2 Android NAND Development] atrako1973:
---------- Post added at 05:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:45 PM ----------

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what are you talking about mate? that picture was taking from the leaked sensation test rom 4.0.1 sense 3.5 posted by cappy here on xda, the same rom is here that devs are studying to port to hd2 . there is no sense4 atm,3.5 is the latest

if you like pics here more pics enjoy !

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1403859
[HD2 Android NAND Development] light_n_roses:
indeed my were comments about sense on ICS...I have said that it's just sense 3.5 on ICS....
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Deadknight:
Does these libraries loaded with sense over ndk or kernel?

They look like some memory libraries
[HD2 Android NAND Development] gezzy19:
is this going to be(or is) available for the tmo version? sorry for the question but i downloaded it and it says htc europe next to it! :/
[HD2 Android NAND Development] theslam08:
DO NOT INSTALL! Notice the link takes you ELSEWHERE? Its not for our phone, only for devs. please read or you end up with a brick.

Seeing how it was bumped anyway, any new news maybe? :D
[HD2 Android NAND Development] gezzy19:
:) Thanks lol I should of realized that with the [DEV] at the beginning and no I didnt install it I was just wondering if this would be available for the U.S. Version or will work on the U.S. Version?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mccmjoon76:
Em....still no luck on this build to run on HD2 we need more time .

And the RC team seems like replace the ROM on his thread..need to confirm..
[HD2 Android NAND Development] ljjehl:
In case all are wondering (including devs), Tribulattifather asked me to relay the message that he will be back on Monday to help out in devving the new build. He had personal issues to take care of with family...thanks for your support.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tribulattifather:
Hey all, i'm back.

Do we have any updates as to the status of this project?

Also, I am currently downloading this from Football's thread:
[HD2 Android NAND Development] light_n_roses:
no more updates here ?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] casemandan:
Not yet....

It'll be a while before this gets to the point of being able to run on our phone. I mean lets face it this hasnt even come out on any phones yet officially.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sbryan12144:
Not really. Me and marc (just now volunteeered haha) will be working on a kernel. We just got to sort out the libs. We may have some luck with the files built from source.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] dayi:
NOT ROM!

"Hope Developers can get it running on HD2 of cause .. Happy Cooking Guys"

NOT ROM!..

good works thanks
[HD2 Android NAND Development] Tribulattifather:
I've not been able to see the differences in this test build (231341) vs the last test build (231336), but, it's good at least to stay updated.

Currently, to update everyone, it doesn't seem Ida is going to be what we need here to work with the files needed to be edited.

I've been trying since Monday to come up with something but it's a no go.

Any one else having any luck?
[HD2 Android NAND Development] mccmjoon76:
Thats properly the right way to go. After trying hard still on luck.

Thanks guys.
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sam razzy:
Waiting for this awesome... :)
[HD2 Android NAND Development] sorceforge:
O do not know it is helpful or not, but I have seen that Sense ICS is working on DHD. I have no knowledge on which kernel or libraries he used, but at least it would be hopeful news.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21144622
[HD2 Android NAND Development] light_n_roses:
Actually I'm a little confused, I was thinking that ICS has "virtual back button" instead I see that hts has removed this feature, we still have to deal with hardware key to get back
[Off-topic] mongo41:
As of lately our beloved forum has seen some of the worst negativity and bashing I have ever seen. I am not completely innocent in this either. I have made a couple of comments I shouldnt have made too and I apologize to whoever I may have offended. But to be honest this type of behavior and just meanness has to stop. I love XDA and everything we do but we are losing members and developers daily because of all the hate here. If you dont like a rom or whatever work has been done just please keep all the negativity to yourselves. If you have a problem with someone keep it in pm and not in their thread. We have to turn this forum around or we are setting ourselves and our phones up for doom. We have lost alot of good people and maybe if the see the drama has stopped they will come back. I too am on the fence about getting a different phone and moving on but i love this phone. I am capable of building my own roms and themes but I love having a place to share ideas and our work. I am begging my fellow XDA brothers and sisters to help in the effort to make XDA what it once was. With that being said I would like to wish all of you a Merry Christmas and joyous holiday season!
[Off-topic] sarni84:
Good stuff man and you are definitely right! Lets stop the bs and get along.....merry christmas xda
[Off-topic] ThC23:
I agree, but it has to start with XDA being able to control this.

They need to start banning people for at least a week or something so they can learn. This is for XDA as a whole not just our community.

This is not the only place where things are getting out of hand.

People won't stop until something is done, until then there will always be someone trolling trying to get a rise out of people.

I am guilty myself of saying things I shouldn't of, but it just gets to me sometimes. Especially since I cant control it, but I at least base my opinion.

I guess we must all do our part as well and start reporting people.

I've also noticed that there is favoritism going around since some have been banned and not others that have done the same if not worse, not gonna name anyone to not start another flame war.

But that's not OK and if that's the case then there's no point on trying.

I hope everyone reads this and does their part. We have a great phone and we must stop if we want some great development to continue.

Powered by the SGSII....
[Off-topic] tigerz0202:
Its gotta be a group effort or it won't change. If someone is being negative then you just ignore them and if it is offensive then report it to a mod and let them handle it. This should be said for Devs too, you dont have to respond to every negative post and get everyone riled up even more then people go to choosing sides , show a little more maturity and only answer questions pertaining to the Rom ive never seen a forum with Devs who get offended so easily .....just ignore and concentrate on the questions about development of your ROM. I hope this turns around and we have a sucessful forum once again cause this is a really great device we have
[Off-topic] mongo41:
I agree with you there has to be some type of enforcement of the rules and it should be a zero tolerence. There has to be consequences for ones actions, without them members are running a muck. And they should be enforced equally no matter who it is or how popular they are. But we as members have to start this by being diligent about abiding to the rules and reporting those who dont follow them.
[Off-topic] Watcher64:
I agree ...

Although it is not actual "Negativity" or "bashing" that actually starts most of the trouble ...

It is the fact that , it has become the norm, for people to come here and expect to be spoon fed answers, and if they don't get them, they get upset.

XDA is first and foremost, or at least it was, a development community.

Now what does that mean to the end users, well, it means, you should come here to learn and if you have something to share, to participate.

If you are just coming here to "expect" everyone to feed you the answers just so you can pimp out your phone, that is not what it is about ..

READ READ READ, then you can ask better questions.

I am sure the DEVs and most experienced users here get annoyed, with every right, when people ask the same question , OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, when with a little reading they could have solved it themselves.

I hope everyone has a great holiday season!!!
[Off-topic] mongo41:
I too get annoyed when new members or even old members ask the same questions but there is a way to handle it. People are so quick to jump on someone for asking a question then everyone gets defensive and then the fun starts. With the way the threads have been lately you have to read thru 10 pages of pure and utter chaos and crap to find your answer. It does seem that those of us that have been here for awhile want to see a change. I have received alot of pm's in support. I know with some work and help from the mods we can make it the way it was. I am totally committed to this.
[Off-topic] pyraxiate:
LONG time XDA'er here. You Mods these days are really something else. Personally this is the SECOND developer ( Dj_Steve and Mohgk ) I've seen you drive away on 2 of 2 devices in the last 3 months. Statistically you are hurting the forum more than moderating and using your common sense. That has to say something.

All you needed to do was read the threads, warn in threads, and clean up the spatter. I moderate on several other sites. This is just sad and seriously makes me think about alternatives. It been like this for the last 1.5 years here on XDA.

Had you properly moderated, you would have seen the initial posts which flamed the threads. If someone told me my work was unappreciated and garbage after I spent hours on something, I'd be a little miffed too.

In any case, great moderating. Good luck to the other upcoming Devs. Happy holidays everyone :-)
[Off-topic] kabuk1:
I think one of the main problems is that due to android's growing popularity, we're seeing a lot more ignorant douchebags in here who just want to take & not give, and who have zero knowledge of forum etiquette. I was a sidekick dev back in the day & xda is sadly starting to remind me a lot of the old Danger forums- a wild jungle of a place where you had to hack through post after post of word-vomit & ignorance before you can actually find any REAL knowledge. Yes, we need to take out the trash & start cracking down on the jackassery. Badly. I'm tired of seeing threads devolve into personal attacks & 8th grade bickering over stupid ****. Its gotten to the point where I hesitate to even post sometimes.
[Off-topic] dnguyen1988:
+1 I agree 100%

I also hesitate to post bc of all the dbags. I've been on xda for a good while now and I've never seen things this bad. Its really frustrating to see all this **** cuz no one behaves like this in real life. I wish ppl would just be chill and not try to be internet thugs. Any who I would really love to see this forum turn around and be more friendly and productive. Well that's my piece lol I'm down to do whatever I can to change this place.
[Off-topic] Watcher64:
DITTO!!! Could not agree More ...
[Off-topic] Htcrezound1:
The mods just bann everyone its anoyying especialy when they dont know what happens its sad
[Off-topic] Watcher64:
Good chance if we all keep talking bad about the MODs in here we will all get banned ...

Problem is HOW they select their MODs, some are great, some just won the popularity contest ....
[Off-topic] Beefvvl:
+1 I know I don't know everything but I always try to use the search button to find my answers before starting a new thread or asking in the thread. I really find it annoying when someone asks a question that has been answered in the OP especially. When I do try to help I'll try to point them in the direction but not spoon feed them the link.

I remember when I used to have my Vibrant. Moderators would shut down a thread and clean up the whole thread and then re-open it later on after cleaning up all the bs. Threads still are getting cluttered up with Thank you's and downloading now posts. We have a thanks button for a reason.
[Off-topic] dave2metz:
Peace & love

" can't we all just get along? "

Sent from my SGH-T989
[Off-topic] unlvmike:
Well said my friend....hence my signature.

There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
[Off-topic] snx351:
I agree stop all the bs and grow up.
[Off-topic] joser24:
Agreed. It's like a Damn soap opera in this *****.
[Off-topic] quest4fire:
+10000. How do we stop the idiotic few that are ruining it for the majority? Mods have a full time job.
[Off-topic] drewtang:
Use the report button lol
[Off-topic] jim93:
and if you feel something is going out of line

the best course of action is

a)report it

b) IGNORE IT for two reasons -> whiny posts arent any better or

its just adding fuel to the fire.

and I dont understand how the posts that go something along the lines or are variations of

"everyone is a rude douche except me"

posts help anything
[Off-topic] audscott:
I can tell you, the disrespect is not forum wide. I migrated from the HD2 forum just two weeks ago and you never (maybe you have) seen such a polite group.

Really, IMHO, if you don't like something, keep your damned mouth shut. If you do like something, support it, and if you're not sure about something, search, search, search!! (rule of 3 somethings :D )
[Off-topic] jim93:
Seconded with the addition that it doesnt help to have 3+ comments about how rude a comment was after 1 rude comment is posted.

Ignore or report.
[Off-topic] kabuk1:
I honestly think we need MORE mods per forum. Its just too much for one person to keep up with.
[Off-topic] mongo41:
It is really great to see that I am not the only one who wants change. I know we can do this. After all this forum belongs to us and its time we take it back from the hell hole it has become. I am going to get in touch with allgamer and the scotsman to see what we can do. One thing I have noticed it has been fairly quiet in the forums the past 2 days. Maybe its the holiday or maybe people are trying to be civil. Who knows but it is nice.
[Off-topic] raghucares:
But that's not all true. everyone makes their start sometime. some of you are lucky enough to stay along with Android's official launch. I on the other hand, a big fan of Android likes to continue customizing to the core. but I am no where near computers. all that I have is interest and ideas. so only with the help of you people someone like me can continue too. I have a lot of suggestions but being a newbie I can hardly party anything where it makes sense. that hurts actually.

Dr. Droid
[Off-topic] kabuk1:
Mostly true, but personal attacks & inflammatory remarks should not be ignored. A few months back there was a guy who was bragging about throwing his phone at his girlfriend, and he made a remark about how my abusive ex was right to punch me in the face cause I was too 'mouthy'(because I told him to seek some help for his obvious anger problems). You better believe I reported his ass!
[Off-topic] joegaz1:
what I cant get over is the bashing in the devs section especially on a 14 yr old kid
[Off-topic] josidhe:
Having followed a few different device subforums here over some period of time (how I miss being a lurker), I think one problem is where new users are coming from.

There's a sort of XDA mysticism on the web. You can walk into any smartphone discussion about different options, and every Android criticism is ultimately met with a "well just go to XDA! Any android can be rooted cuz it's open and cyanogenmod is great and freedom and blah blah".

So I think an unfortunate number of people come here with high expectations and zero understanding of the work (and usually learning from scratch) devs put into making this 'freedom' happen. Being faced with incomplete work and (for every new device) struggling simply to get past the OEM's walls doesn't jive with the unofficial XDA marketing that was hammered into them on every other forum and tech blog comments thread on the web.

There was no such aura surrounding hackers in the old WinMo days, and as a result, people that came here (or was it PPCGeeks? Maybe both) were GENERALLY a more chill bunch. The childishness really didn't blow up till the open source showed up, I'm afraid.
[Off-topic] kenvan19:
Never once have I told a dev something they worked on sucked, was ugly, or was stupid. That's not to say that I've liked everything I've seen. Far from it; the vast majority of what I see either just isn't the kind of style I like or is just plain ugly (to me). I still make a point to offer some support to the devs because they worked hard to make it.

And honestly, I don't understand the idea behind telling people their work sucks. If you don't like it, you don't like it. Clearly they liked it and that is why they made it.

Finally, I've been an active member of many other subforums here and I was all set and prepared to be one here but all the **** going on here has soured me so I've been lurking a lot lately. Hell, I still maintain my rooting guide for the Nexus S and check it to help from time to time but the whole experience of being here (read: the people bashing needlessly, the devs taking donations and running [and that applies to more than Bubby, pretty much every dev who got donations to get this phone have moved on or just faded away], and just the number of fools here). I don't have the same drive to spend my free time helping people and getting nothing in return. Maybe it'll change or maybe I'll sell this phone and get something else and get back that drive. Who knows.
[Off-topic] Watcher64:
I have to agree with you, I have been a lurker here for a long time, longer than my current account birthday may indicate . The problem is not really XDA, although their way of handling most issues could use some serious improvement.

People come here and expect to have their phone pimped out instantly, they don't expect to need to learn anything, and when they get told to learn, they ***** to a MOD and lately 90% of the time the MODs side with the *****ers not the old timers.

XDA needs to get back to educating users, instead of pampering them, sometimes , tough love is the only option.

While needless bashing is never needed, sometimes a good kick in the pants is.
[Off-topic] armyofbear136:
We are the 99% and we will not stand for the 1% of trolls who ruin threads! xD

My SGSII HercuDom needs more w00t. It always needs more w00t!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] M_Shaaban:
Is it really beneficial? What are the pros and cons? Does it affect how clear the screen is? Does it affect touch sensitivity?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Deleted member 2879886:
I use an anti glare type for several reasons, 1) Keep it from being scratched, 2) To reduce sun glare, yes it does reduce the screen brightness the trade-off its worth it imho. 3) Finger prints smudges are annoying as hell and I cant keep cleaning the screen. 4) Finger glide yes fingers tends to stick to the glass but with an anti-glare protector they just glide. My 2 cents
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] M_Shaaban:
Thanks, Blackwidowman!

Fingerprints are such a pain, with the screen protector; fingerprints don't stick?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] MMcCraryNJ:
I always use a screen protector my smartphones and tablets. I just get a clear one, and I don't notice it once it's on. To me, they are too much money to risk scratches.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] muzzy996:
Personal preference really, for some the added protection is well a worth the change in look and feel. For others like myself there's just no way we'll sacrifice the clarity of the display for any amount of protection.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Katamave:
Since my First android phone (HTC Desire) i dont use one and have No scratches.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] beta546:
Never used one on any phone or tablet. I just look after my devices. I mean what would you be doing to scratch it? Using a shard of metal instead of a finger. Phones I can understand, putting it in the same pocket as keys or coins or somthing. I just never put anything in my pocket with my phone. But a tablet, not exactly pocket size. If I take it out with me, it is in a bag (on it's own) or in my hand. I have had it a few months and not a single mark on it. As for fingerprints, much easier to wipe of glass than plastic. Some decent screen wipes make easy work of them. Or a few breaths on the screen and a glasses cloth.

Basically, take care of your tablet and you won't need any kind of protection :-)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jay Rock:
I dont think I'll ever need it for my tablet. No scratches without a case or protector. About fingerprints, I never see those.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thefriskychip:
Well this may not be a issue on the screen protector on the tab. The one i had for my charge did nothing but hold in all the oils from my hands causing the screen to have a constant foggy film over it. Just something to keep in mind.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jasonxlee01:
I'd probably get a stroke trying to successfully apply a screen protector on a screen this big. (No bubbles and no dust and perfect alignment because I have OCD)