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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
But think about it while & if you waited 6 moths to see what's coming out.The Tegra chip Wayne will be starting to buzz by then.I'm keeping my Prime until this next year because by then Wayne will be in a Asus tablet for sure.

Asus is really on their game..sure they could have went for a 1920x1200 screen but the higher resolution screens are going to cost us consumers big time.Especially the tablet Samsung has coming with a resolution of 2500x1600! I'm glad you're getting the Prime.I guarantee though by June/July there will be talk of the Wayne chip in Asus tablet.

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I have to agree with him.I've read a few places that the Ipad 3 will be out in Feb.I also read that it will be thicker also.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chowdarygm:
I will never wait for to see what an apple device is going to bring as it by anyways will be with closed iOS which is very poor in usage options compared to android (simple e.g. click a pic and u can share it with 100 apps without even leaving camera app in android whereas iOS can only do it with twitter and that became a big news(isheep guys are really sheep)

ok ok i am going little away from topic but my point is that whatever there's gonna be released 2-3 months later, there will always be the next big version rumored by then and u will never be able to buy one. so stop listening rumors, click buy button and enjoy

and i don't understand what slowness issues people are posting but i have been on my new prime since morning nonstop and i didn't had single slowdown issue and the display is just awesome with so many inbuilt options to tweak it based on preferences.... simply love this :D and will njoy this until something is announced and released with "buynow" option (no pre-orders...stupid sellers :cool:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dakine:
Getting caught in the specs war is senseless there will always be a newer "better" device around the corner. Is 1200x800 pixellated on a 10 inch screen? If not then what do we gain with higher resolutions? If Asus irons out the bugs and delivers a solid product then the only real choice is between Android or IOS. We have reached a point where the hardware has outpaced the software.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
That's something I'm also wondering. In how far a 1920x1080 (or even higher!) is going to give a advantage over 1280x800 on 10.1" screens. The battery would drain faster because the screen is using more power.

I'm really wondering if you are going to notice it in normal usage. Maybe if you are going to look very close on your tablet you can see the difference, but why would you do that?

It's kinda the same as the Galaxy Nexus (720×1280) vs. the Galaxy S II (480x800) in MY eyes both devices have a very sharp screen. Sure if you are going very close to the screen you can see the pixels on the Galaxy S II, but why would you do that?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
that is just rumours. not hardfacts yet from apple stating release or specs. plus Prime will still hold its own once devices are released. Nvidia has a great roadmap of powerful future Chipsets also. I had my Ipad1 for almost 2 yrs. N did well for me jailbroken. now its basically 2012 n I have the Prime. 2014 is when Stark chipset is projected to release. nothing in other mkbile chipset makers roadmaps show anything close to the power it will produce. Nvidia is on their A game and shaking up the chipset scene. ;)

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exactly my thoughts also on both posts.Good Points!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xXxDieselxXx:
As much as the iPad3 sounds very promising (No USB/Flash) kills it for me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pdanders:
The res race? Those super high resolutions are silly on a screen this small. Just a fanboy feature the average user won't really notice
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
Yep another marketing gimmick.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] franky_402:
I was able to score one and have a next day air to get it yesterday.. I was able to use it for a little while before it got wrapped. On my unit speaker was loud but could be louder, sounds pretty good but i didn't test it much.. Oh and the speed is simply amazing! I rented an Acer a500 about 2 months ago and i noticed honeycomb could get pretty laggy especially with live wall papers. I put a nice Christmas hd live wallpaper on the prime and tested it out and all was well. Don't get me wrong there were some transition skipping effect slightly at times but i blame that fully on honeycomb.. Wifi seemed fine for me but also limited testing. Didn't test gps, screen is amazing as well, i love the super ips display, i could see the screen perfectly at any angle practically. Oh and it gets bright with plus. Ill probably do a full review tomorrow on it after i get to play with it a little bit... Rear camera takes nice pictures, i would recommend slightly adjusting the options before shooting, brightness seemed a tad high with flash, but it is super bright lol..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mazjohn:
Even if Apple announced the I-pad10 and there was a 10,924 x 5,768 screen, It would still be running IOS and be completely locked down, (Very limited IMO) so I would still prefer the Prime and whatever Android tablets brings our way- not to mention that all this resolution would require huge processing power to move all those pixels, and that the average eye after a certain point would not be able to distinguish the difference anyways. (the screen is only 10inches in size after all!!!)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] franky_402:
Exactly, besides there are tvs people are still buying with less resolution than this tablet 1280x720
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] andddlay:
Unfortunately adobe is dropping support for flash on android...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] deadwolfbones:
Definitely C except the GPS, which does appear to be a real issue.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
The prime has an 1280x800 resolution.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] franky_402:
I meant people still buy 720p tvs
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
You guys are missing the point about next-gen high-end tablets. The Prime has three unique features right now: 1) Teg3, 2) super-bright display, and 3) keyboard dock. Other than those, it's a first gen tablet. Number one is going to be common starting in Q1. Number two only makes a difference outdoors. And number three is really the biggest differentiator. Thin and light is going to be common and the new Toshiba's thinner and lighter than the Prime so that's not a unique feature. The metal housing is unique but that's a personal choice and meaningless if it's in a case. It runs HC so it does nothing different then any existing tablet. It'll get ICS but so will every other tablet.

And Asus made some compromises to be first to market. Clearly, higher res displays are going to be the new normal. If resolution wasn't important, why are there so few 720P TVs being sold even though they're cheaper? All the second-gen tablets announced also have additional RAM for better multi-tasking. The single speaker on the Prime may be adequate but it's not an ideal situation when other tablets are adding subwoofers for better bass. The lack of support for 5GHz Wi-Fi also isn't ideal for people that stream a lot of video. And the choice of a metal casing, while certainly stylish, hasn't been proven a solid choice yet based on early reports of Wi-Fi and GPS issues.

I'm by no means putting down the Prime. Asus had done remarkable work getting it to market. But for you guys to say higher resolution and RAM suck because of battery life you're really just convincing yourself of your purchase. It only matters if battery life is the most important feature people are looking for and that hasn't been the case. No dual-core phone has equaled the battery life of a single-core but people are buying them in droves. And what if the soon-to-be-announced tablets have larger batteries? Let's say you want to sell your Prime in May. If there are four new next-gen tablets that are equally fast, have higher res displays, more RAM, better audio, NFC (AndroidBeam), plus other potential unique features which tablet will someone want to buy?

If someone wants/needs a tablet today the Prime is without question the best choice. To say it'll be the best choice in May is ridiculous based on not knowing the details of what's coming and the spec leaks for the Lenovo and Acer tablets. At the end of the day, as long as you're happy with it, that's all that matters. But, like first purchasers of the iPad1, HTC Sensation, and SGS2, devices only remain at the top of the food chain until something else displaces them.

So enjoy the Prime's position as the number one tablet on the market and stop speculating on how long it will last. You'll only give yourself a headache. ;)

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And people still purchase single-core phones. The Prime's a high-end tablet being compared to other high-end tablets. I'm sure value-priced Android tablets will continue to use lower res screens but that's not the discussion we're having.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Couple of issues with your post...

First, the extra brightness is INTENDED for outdoor use, and that's a biggie if you happen to ever want to, you know, use your tablet outdoors. :D It's actually rather huge for me, because I often like to sit on my back porch here in SoCal and soak up some sun while ebook reading, RSS reading, browsing, etc. So, the IPS+ mode is one of the things that convinced me to get the Prime to replace my TF101, which is otherwise fine for my use.

Second, there isn't a single other tablet that's actually been announced. There've been rumors, sure, but no other vendor has announced any other new tablets. The newest that I can think of are still Tegra 2 devices. And there's certainly been no tablet actually announced that has more than 1GB RAM.

I think that Tegra 3 is what makes the Prime a second-generation tablet. That's almost true by definition, since the vast majority of first-generation Honeycomb tablets were distinguished by the Tegra 2. I do NOT believe that higher-res screens are what define the second generation, and personally I think 1280X800 is fine on a 10.1" screen. I think any higher res and you're just hurting gaming performance for no great gains in viewability.

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Maybe I missed a post, but who's saying the Prime will be the best choice in May? I think it's definitely silly to think that ANY mobile device today will still be "the best" six months later. Things are moving way to fast to ever make that claim.

If anyone wants to own "the best" mobile device for anything longer than a few months, they're living a pipe dream.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
The higher res discussion is going on right now in phones with the introduction of qHD and 720P. Meaningful or not, all new high-end phones coming out will have higher res displays. So, when people are shopping, it's going to become a defacto expectation and, at the same time, make anything less seem inferior. We're a marketing driven society so what's real isn't as important as what we're manipulated in to thinking we need. When Apple introduces the retina display in the iPad3 with their gazillion dollar marketing campaign eveyone will be brainwashed in to becoming resolution junkies and shopping for it without even knowing why.

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It's woven in to a lot of the posts. Especially those that talk about waiting for CES in three weeks to see what's on the horizon. And you're totally right about longevity. But, if starting with the Lenovo which goes in to production next month, someone not needing a tablet now waits, the enhanced features would extend its longevity. Let's face it, almost everyone on XDA is about shiny and new so a lot of our tech purchases are ego driven. Having the bar raised a month or two after a purchase doesn't effect functionality but it does effect bragging rights. If that's unimportant than so is much of what I said in the post you responded to. Why are people dumping the TF1 to get the Prime? They do nothing differently and the speed probably only impacts about 20% of what you do with a tablet. Do you need a quad-core to use Kobo or browse the web? And I'll be the first to admit I buy my tech for the thrill not because I

need

additional features or specs. People looking for transportation buy Toyotas and Hondas. People who are passionate about cars don't.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mithent:
Indeed, and this is the eternal problem with technology: you can always wait a bit longer and there's always something better on the horizon. You eventually have to choose some time to purchase whatever's the best option at that time, or you'll never purchase anything.

I'd like the Prime to have 2GB RAM, as the 512MB on my SGS is seriously cramped, and while 1GB should be enough now, 2GB would give more breathing room. I'm not too bothered about the resolution, though - it's already much higher dpi than my PC monitor, and it seems that vast resolutions will just stress the device more than they'd give any real benefit. CPU-wise, I think the Tegra 3 being quad-core makes it more future-resistant than a faster dual-core, from desktop experience.

The dock is the real USP, though, and is why I wanted the Prime in the first place.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
Having a higher res can indeed confer substantive benefit, assuming the use of HDMI-out. All current external displays and most HDTVs are higher than 720p.

It depends on one's use case. For the average person, the chance of connecting to an external display is likely higher than the chance of using the tablet in sunlight.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
Lol, u kidding?

For the average person, the chance of using the tablet in sunlight is likely higher than the chance of connecting to an external display.

Fixed. NP.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
You'd probably believe that most people who bought SUVs also like to drive offroad as well.

Edit: Oops, sorry, didn't notice that you're not from the hoary US of A. Perhaps where you are, people are outdoorsy folks who like to tote their tabs on their mountaineering sojourns. Here in the fat capital of the world, we Yanks like the thought of exercise, but only when we can do it from the comfort of our couch.

Yes, the SUV bit is a bit of Americanism as well.

>The average person doesn't even have an HDMI cable.

Ah, another difference between your country and us Yanks, then. Good to know. I'll be sure to pack along an HDMI cable when I do travelling to your neck of the woods.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
The average person doesn't even have an HDMI cable, or they don't see the advantage of it. Even if they have it they won't realize that it is down-scaled.

Ask a random person what resolution their iPad has.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] franky_402:
What i was trying to get at was the resolution is fine i think, sure a 1080p display might be better and it will come but in no way at all am i disappointed in the screen on the prime
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jptech:
you mean his third hand-picked unit?

The first two were busted wifi.

now that your theory is on the bottom of my shoe, would you kindly clean it off?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mazjohn:
whenever resolution is bumped up on a device, there needs to be sufficient horsepower in the CPU and GPU to properly drive the display- especially for gaming. The 5 cores in the prime combined with the Nvidia Tegra 3 can drive displays up to 1920 x 1080... (I know the prime is 1280 x800) but The prime is well within these specs and should hold up quite well over time.

Yes, there will certainly be better specced screens appearing in the coming months, possibly followed by the "Tegra 3 plus" arm chip- and eventually Tegra 4 chip tablets- which is said to be another huge leap in performance.

The point is, this will always be a moving target. What is great about this is that it is not on a 1 time a year refresh cycle like Apple products... This will allow Android and possibly even Windows 8 tablets in the future to continue to evolve at a much faster rate than any Apple device ever could.

I will certainly enjoy my prime, and I think It will still be very very relevant device long after other tablets surpass it in specs. It is a Big deal for Android lovers out there, because (what I believe) it marks the beginning of a huge shift in the tablet market, where there is now more Android devices than ever before to help dominate the market in 2012. I hear there are more that 700,000 android device activations PER DAY, and soon to hit 1 million.

Apple can continue to try and sue samsung and others all they want, but it will not help them much longer, as more and more developers will begin to develop on Android first and IOS second. Android and Google have the big numbers now, and Apple knows it. They are scared, and the only way they know to stop it is by trying to sue to hold Android back.

There will always be your average Consumer that will continue to buy Apple products no doubt, but they will have to deal with Google and Amazon now.

GO Android!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
I'm curious. For giggles, let's assume Asus releases a Prime II in March to compete with the upgraded specs of other second-gen Android tablets and the iPad3. It would have a 1900x1200 display, 2GB of RAM, and the Teg3 would be clocked at 1.6GHz out of the box. It would be easy for them to do just by tweaking the existing h/w and everything else would remain the same. Would you wait or buy the existing Prime now? Also, would it be your first tablet or replace an existing tablet? I'll start. If I needed a tablet now, I'd buy the Prime today. Since I have a tablet, I'd wait until March. Your turn. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mazjohn:
Yeah, I'd still (IMO) buy the Prime today if I needed a tablet now.- Out of the bumped specs you mentioned above, I would personally want to have the 2GB memory, before anything else. I would weight each by my own personal preference below as follows:

Rated for importance: 1= highest importance: 3=lowest importance

1- 2gb memory

2- faster CPU

3-higher res screen

IOS device not even considered for me as an option (no matter how Hi-res the display) because of the closed environment of the platform.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>If I needed a tablet now, I'd buy the Prime today.

No one needs a tablet. It's a want. Then, in changing the "need" to "want," it's a question of immediate gratification. We all like shiny new toys. There is no real justification other than that.

When it comes to shininess, the here-and-now (the concrete) is more heavily weighed than the to-be (the abstract). It's not a rational comparison, given that the premise--getting a tablet--isn't based on a rational need, but an emotional want.

Sorry, exhausted my PopSike for the day...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Col.Kernel:
The physical resolution of the screen is independent of the resolution of the graphics chip, and completely irrelevant to what gets displayed on an external display.

A higher resolution on the physical (built in) display means more power consumption but, past a certain point, confers zero benefit to the user. There comes a point when the human eye simply can not make use of more pixels. But those pixels will still consume power.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>The physical resolution of the screen is independent of the resolution of the graphics chip, and completely irrelevant to what gets displayed on an external display.

That's true for Windows and Macs, but not for Android--particularly for HC and ICS. For the moment, secondary displays are used for mirroring only, AFAIK. Then, a 1:1 res ratio is preferred for optimal fidelity.

>A higher resolution on the physical (built in) display means more power consumption but, past a certain point, confers zero benefit to the user.

Aside from the ability to optimally mirror, there are other uses. One is remote access. With a high res, one can view the PC display in its entirety w/o the need to scroll around, or to reduce the original resolution. This latter (image reduction) wreaks havoc on legibility of textual output. I can think of yet more benefits.

>There comes a point when the human eye simply can not make use of more pixels. But those pixels will still consume power.

This is a generality that isn't necessarily true. Screen power consumption is not proportionate to pixel count. I'm not up to the particulars of LCD production and power consumption, but from all I've read, screen power consumption is a function of its production process along with screen size.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Baldilocks:
I know they are hard to come by, even on Zedge and other wallpaper apps and sites. I have put together a collection of a couple hundred with more coming all the time. These really show of the 720p screen.

http://euphoricarythmia.com/showthread.php?t=31291

Links are also in my siggy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgmorris:
Thanks. the link in the post is broken tho the sig link works...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] flakz0r:
Thanks man. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Baldilocks:
Fixed the link. Thanks for the heads up! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
Just use desktop walls. I've been doing it lately.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] atticus182:
Thanks, good to see more wallpapers here! Also check out my thread with black wallpapers, link's in my signature :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dawynkoop:
Here's one of the best sites I've found for Wallpapers. There are tons, plus they have some extremely high-res ones.

http://wallbase.cc/start/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Abe21599:
How about putting them all into a zip file for one quick download?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zeke1988:
i was thinking about the same thing haha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] justsayinbro:
Same here...anyone get a chance to do this yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blondyz:
How do you sort them? I check the HR filter, and most are 1080x1200 which makes total sense, but I want atleast 1440x1280, higher than that is cropable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jameslfc5:
Nice one! Great photos!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TreyDaPrince:
Does anyone know the resolution for the GNex?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] atticus182:
Yeah it's 720x1280 but because you are using a scrollable wallpaper it has to be 1440x1280. HOWEVER because of the softkeys at the bottom the effective screen size is only 1190'ish :) so wallpapers that are 1200 in height look uber crisp!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Baldilocks:
I wonder if I should crop some specifically for this size? Ehh, I guess the 1440 x 1280 work just as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Baldilocks:
I've added dozens and dozens more. Let me know if there is anything specific you are looking for...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 6jaipur6:
Nice wallpapers good job.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rubber guard:
those are very very good. they work well on my evo. next step, try on my xoom

as far as suggestions, i like the ones you have of maldives/thailand type places.

ie this.

http://jootix.com/upload/DesktopWallpapers/cache/House-in-the-Sea-house-sea-4608x3072.jpg
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Baldilocks:
Thanks. Gotta hunt/make some more soon. Work has been brutal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Baldilocks:
Added a few more the past few days.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] le0.br4zuc4:
they have a lot of 1440 x 1280 wallpapers here
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Stretlow:
Whenever I set a picture and dont turn off walpapper scrolling there's a slight lag when scrolling, especially if you hit the hom button from one screen to the left (if that makes sense.

It must be possible to prevent because some ofthe default wallpapers (and optimised live walls) dont lag