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[Galaxy S I9000 General] skibbi_pl:
At least they admitted that samsung developers are lousy and cannot optimize crappy TW for hardware will less RAM. So pathetic!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] habylab:
Still would go for a Samsung hardware phone, they're really good. Just a shame they won't be updating their older phones - which they are under no commitment to actually update.

Sent from my lag free CM7-nightly'd-up Galaxy S using the XDA Premium app
[Galaxy S I9000 General] flip360:
i would like to just point out that not upgrading the SGS line of devices to ICS because of TW or some crap like that is not the right way to go Samsung. You have pooor coders we know that but leaving out the flagship phone (sold over 15Million, LOT OF MONEY) is just plain BS. if you are not gonna upgrade it then GIVE US THE PROPRIETARY DRIVERS for RIL and CAMERA and our devs will do it themselves!!! Mind you that after this fiasco i am not buying (and also whoever i know) another samsung product again. Dont tell me you dont recognize the force of xda members as a community.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Tilgi:
Keep in mind who produces the 100% google phones ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TigerCourage:
I don't mind, it's Google who is updating the phone...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ccrows:
And that's Samsung...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ccrows:
Either way XDA will support it. Google or not Google...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] random_username_:
I doubt the next one will be Samsung the first two were HTC ( the g1 was kind of a nexus) so they'll probably go with another manufacturer as they try and keep it fair
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kraven001:
And some ppl called me crazy when I said it's most unlikely we will get anything official.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dakine:
To hell with Samsung, the i9000 has been a disaster from the day it was released. If it wasn't for custom roms it would be in the trash already.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] random_username_:
Amen to that
[Galaxy S I9000 General] TigerCourage:
If at least Failsung will release the source so the devs can keep making more stuff for our beloved phone!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DeadSOL:
Isn't there anyone powerful enough here on XDA to bring this to the attention of Samsung? We have a powerful community here and the Galaxy S was a flagship device!

Listen, Samsung; we don't care about Touchwiz. Just give us vanilla ICS! That's all we want!!!!! Our phone can EASILY handle it!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Kik0o:
They admitted TW is memory hog and is simply slowing down our phones. Get rid of that quick.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] robogo1982:
What's wrong with vanilla ICS?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] michel9501:
I hope the will release it in the end , so the developers will have more stable ground to work on
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Sirt:
I think there should be community pressure to make Samsung to release ICS for Galaxy S. HTC already reversed their decision not to release Gingerbread for Desire thanks to community demand and attention on news and blog sites. HTC's original reason were same: limited ROM size and thus no space for Sense but eventually they released the update with slimmed Sense.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] felinis:
Mod Edit Watch the language
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gsw5700:
Well, if Samsung aren't going to do ics, then why the f*** can't they do a really good release of GB?

Sent using TCP/IP
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ballsofsteel:
I don't think community pressure will do much to revert Samsung's decision. Given that their Galaxy S II series has been much more successful than its previous iteration, they do not feel the need to care much for the Galaxy S.

HTC was actually speaking the truth of the limited ROM size though. I was thrown between the Desire and Galaxy S when I made my purchase in late June 2010. The differences only seemed to be a "Super" before the "AMOLED" advertised on the Galaxy S, a slightly larger screen with the lack of a flash and an additional front camera. However, one part of the Desire's phone info shocked me when I dug into it. 113 MBs of internal storage remaining (that phone has no apps installed!). 5 decent 20 MB games and your storage is done for. Not to mention App2SD wasn't supported back in Eclair times.

Samsung Galaxy S? I see at least 1.5 GBs there, and have no idea how it is "insufficient" for ice cream sandwich.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] got-petrol:
We don't need Samsung we got ics and it flys
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Knedjo:
lays damn lays! Galaxy S has exactly same hardware specs as Nexus S + more app memory - 2x more - 2GB vs. 1 GB! and TouchWiz is no more than 50MB big! So this lame excuse is the same as that of HTC when they told everyone that Desire will not get Gingerbread! But after community started to protest, they cleverly changed their mind! Unfortunately Samsung will not do that! :( At least they don't need to insult our intelligence!

Real reason is that Samsung has sold pile of SGS's under various re-names, and it would cost them money to test all of bloatware that comes with SGS from different network providers! Unfortunately these guys don't want to contribute to that expense! They don't care! All they want is that users pick another phone under next 2 yr contract! Samsung doesn't want to get more bad publicity for updating only unbranded SGS's, so they decided to sacrifice those for the sake of bigger problem! :(
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xath23:
Uhm you do realize the nexus google phone is made by samsung right? samsung is a hell lot better with updates than most other companies. and im sure there is no phone on the market that received nearly as many updates as the galaxy s. the desire didnt even get gingerbread and the phones were released about the same time.

stop whining people if you want to go with apple now enjoy your crippled updates without major features because they gotta sell their revamped phone. siri anyone?

and if you dont want to buy from samsung anymore go ahead you wont be missed. enjoy your mediocre phones.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] broncogr:
Hello guys.

Watch the language please!!!!

Profane language on the forum has consequences.

Cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 General] rcarlossgs:
Guys...for me there is no point in cursing samsung.

Try the onecosmic ICS 4.0.3 RC1 port.Fabulous than any samsung rom till date.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ballsofsteel:
To be completely honest I don't really care if Samsung gives ICS to the Galaxy S or not, as we have these hard working guys over here at XDA cooking new ROMS for us every day. Sure they are not official and 100% stable but hey, if its usable and just as good (if not better) than official ROMs, why not give it a shot?

The one thing that iOS has a substantial advantage over Android. Software updates......
[Galaxy S I9000 General] freakdahouse:
Very debatable, GS was out with 2.1 when it should have by then 2.2, the 2.3 was never very good on GS, and in the end it's a device with just 1,5 years not being supported anymore and still is for sale in most countrys.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ballsofsteel:
I disagree. When the Galaxy S was released a pie chart in wikipedia regarding Android version share (not entirely reliable, but still something) showed that just under a quarter (~22%, IIRC) was on Froyo, while a good 60% was on Eclair (the rest being shared by Donut and Cupcake). Froyo was still rolling out to devices when it was being rolled out to the Galaxy S. Heck, Eclair wasn't even out for the Xperia X10 when Galaxy S got Froyo, it was still on Donut (1.6!)

EDIT: Looks like I proved myself wrong...there wasn't even that many people on Froyo. Note that this article is published around the same time the Galaxy S was first launched. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/jul/21/android-version-market-share-google
[Galaxy S I9000 General] woozydevotee:
Well that sucks, and this has ensured that my current galaxy s is the last phone i am going to be using from samsung for a really long time, Seriously is Touchwiz the reason for not upgrading to ICS? Thats BS, they could have at least come up with a less idiotic reason, well in my books you have just gone from Samsung to Samsucks!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] endariel:
well that's not it. it's not the same for many users, don't forget warranty issues and stuff

i don't blame samsung per se, i just think this man got it right:

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cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 General] punyategar:
Buy android for the hardware. Let devs deal with the roms and then pay them.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] bharkah:
I remember a time when i was stuck with a wm6.5 HTC HD2 and i was hearing from all official sources that there would be no further support for it... and now it runs, well, everything.

Can't realy say i'm surprised about samsung's decision but i'm not sad about it either. Chances are that even if they scrambled some support and rolled out updates i would still opt for a custom rom provided by the fine gents arround here.

The only thing an update would be good for would be easing the devs' work but looking at the progress made in porting ics this far i'm pretty sure everything would be up and running already by the time samsung actualy pushed the update.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] DeadSOL:
The link to this thread has made it to the front page of XDA.

Come on guys, time to rally! The Galaxy S has a really high number of users and we need to get our point across to Samsung; WE DO NOT NEED TOUCHWIZ! That's it!! There's nothing more to that.

If Samsung are not planning to give us ICS, they should at the least help the devs out!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lovesingh25:
samsung should learn from sony ericsson models!!!!! all are gettind updated even their xperia mini.... samsung should update all their phone which have greater than equal to 1 ghz processor!!!! I think they deserve better treatment!!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] androiderrr:
I think samsung has economic reasion not to update the phone.What they have said that it is ROM issue is fake.Galaxy S has 2GB ROM and it can clearly accommodate ICS+TOUCHWIZ.Also Samsung has given us two major updates and support has been mostly good but this is where Samsung needs to step up and say yes we are ready to update Galaxy S for the third time and this is why we are the leader in the Android market and this is the reason consumers should get our phones not our competitors.AND THIS WILL GIVE THEM VERY STRONG BRAND LOYALITY AND A STRONG CONFIDENCE TO PRESENT AS WELL AS FUTURE SAMSUNG FLAGSHIP MOBILES
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pjnofrills:
Dear Samsung,

This is why people buy iPhones.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] spacebar2011:
This just points a nasty finger back at Samsung themselves for that POS called TouchWiz. Why not provide vanilla ICS or actually try and strip down said POS to a minimum. They'll be millions of thankful folk for a close to vanilla ICS. How tough it's that to understand, Samsung?

Also, there's a few million i9001 & i9003 users too. Those two devices don't even have decent community support!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] fransarj:
dunno if this has been posted...

voice your petitions here:

http://www.change.org/petitions/www...dwich-version-for-users-of-the-samsung-i9000#
[Galaxy S I9000 General] captican:
Why not post your displeasure on Samsung's fb page as well? My guess is that they monitor it more closely than XDA.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] w98seeng:
Have you ever had an iPhone 3G that was running IOS 4.1? It lags more than any SGS I have heard of.

My neighbor has a 3G and I had to downgrade him to 3.1 and it ran fine, but last month he couldn't download anything from the app store, even on a fresh flash of 3.1. It only ran on 4.1, as if Apple is blocking 3.1 users from the app store. He's back on 4.1 but it lags something awful.

Apple gives you an OS update even if the phone isn't capable of handling it. They actually force you into using it.

Question #1

How many people on this forum got an SGS and did not flash a custom ROM right away?

This shows that even if Samsung does not come out with ICS for the SGS, you will just flash a custom version anyway, so why complain about it? If they did come out with it, you would use a custom version anyway.

Question #2

How many of the 15 million SGSs sold are by people who update through Kies and never do any customization of the OS at all?

This is who Samsung caters to, Mr. Average Consumer, not the average XDA member. Mr. Average Consumer couldn't give two hoots about not getting ICS for their SGS, as long as their phone works, that's all they care about.

Question #3

How many people here upgrade their phones every year or two?

I would think it's a high number, so then the upgrade shouldn't really matter as the new phone will support the newest version of Android that is out or will be coming out.

Ian
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pixbuf:
I don't care

As soon as I got my Captivate, I replaced TW with Launcher Pro. Soon after that, when the promised upgrade to Froyo didn't show up, I rooted my phone and installed a custom Froyo ROM, then a custom Gingerbread ROM. Now I'm running TeamHacksung's ICS port and am very happy with it. Samsung can do whatever the f*** they want. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] aryzing:
really?

How can then not give the galaxy s phones the ics update? They're about the fastest phones out there, not to mention that no one cares about TW or carrier BS that comes with the phone, seriously, who is the engineer responsible for this decision? If Samsung doesn't want to develop it, im sure the community would if they opened up. Very disappointing!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lchiu7:
I have been many stores lately with my daughter trying to decide on a smart phone to use on TMO. For cost reasons we had excluded the Galaxy II and so were leaning towards the Galaxy as a good compromise of cost and performance. Now I don't think so and I am going to recommend the Nexus S, a phone with similar hardware as the Galaxy but without the bloatware and already an official ICS release.

I faced the same problem with my N1. No ICS update so unless a really good ROM comes out for it (might be hard with the hardware design restrictions of the N1) it will be new phone for me if I want ICS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
Now iphone 4 is better than my gingersammy (bug spawner)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kynolin:
I don't use TouchWiz. I've removed all the bloatware from my phone. All I see Samsung telling me is, there's absolutely NO reason why we can't have ICS; they'd just like to continue to jerk us around on a phone that should have been superior to many.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BackDaws:
Will we be able to get a clean Vanilla rom working on the Galaxy S and S plus as from what ive seen it runs perfectly on the Nexus S.

why dont Google Release a Vanilla Rom for anyone that wants it ?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hocacihan:
If we won't get ICS , my next phone isn't Samsung !
[Galaxy S I9000 General] BloodSkin:
this was the straw that broke the camels back. im going to make a video of me blowing up not 1 but 2 captivates and send it to samsung with an unboxing of an htc device. im sick of samsungs laziness and bull**** excuses.

how is it that we, the community, the people who dont even work for the company who makes the device, can have not only gingerbread before them, but ICS as well, on a device that they say cant have it.

guess what samsung, i have ICS + touchwiz installed right now and none of that bull**** you said is true. so try again pricks. admit that you are just lazy.

if we can do it without the source and make it stable, you sure the **** can too.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] spacebar2011:
Google can't just "release" a vanilla ROM! For which device, with what drivers, for which processor family, for which radio.. ? Its not just the OS. There's a ton of other things that go with the OS to make a ROM. Only the device manufacturers can provide for the drivers and such according to the hardware used in the said device.

---------- Post added at 09:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:28 PM ----------

We all know that the i9000 and i9003 can handle ICS absolutely fine. the S+ (i9001) is even more powerful, so leaving that out is all the more outrageous!

This is just cost-cutting and/or lazy BS from Samsung. SE just went higher up in the books for me as they're updating almost every single device in the Xperia range to ICS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Shinydude100:
Let's make it good news by signing here.

http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...s-asop-build-of-the-galaxy-s-and-its-variants
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nraudigy2:
Switched to iPhone 4S. It has built-in dictionary and emotions. There is no lag. iphone 4s through LOD sounds better than Voodoo SGS.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] pxrave:
hey i read some about the galaxy 3 with should released in Q1/2012...

so why samsung dont release a rom whitout touchwiz...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zerox_100:
I don't think it's a good idea to make this many petitions. One big is enough. Sign the one that has most of petitions.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Shinydude100:
The "biggest " one is a half-assed petition without a proper petition laid out, and its only for the I9000. I included the Variants and a much more direct request with source.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] frodsu:
Signed!!

But i have a 10.1tab i want ice S on? How?

Rooted and ready....

CM? nightly?

I¨ve searched.

or wait some few days :-)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] tom13mcpherson:
Well isn't this just the perfect reason to not buy Samsung again. I was disappointed when I first got my SGS and have stayed that way.

Yes there is no obligation to update an old phone and in some ways no need (it's not as laggy with the gingerbread roms) but why tease us?

Why would they want to encourage more people to root?

Thank goodness for XDA and FYA is all I can say - where would we be without the good devs?

My contract is up in 11 months ... time for a company that provides a bit better after sales support ...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] nemesis666999:
f*****g samsung
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gaspernemec:
Well i dont really know how good excuse is TW, why not to do it like HTC with desire? As far as i know some mid or lower rank of android phones (galaxy ACE, Galaxy Mini,......) has slimmed and lighter version of TW, why doesnt samsung do sth like that with I9000 (if touchwizz is MUST) nobody needs it anyways.... Plus i hope at leas sources get released now, because i would love to see at least fully functional CM9 build...(with 720p fully working for example....)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] r!nch:
Just useless Samsung... shame shame shame! I've been using ICS on my SGS for weeks and it's so sad to hear it'll never be official, especially when it's already out officially on the Nexus S.

I've had two SGSs just a few months - I feel cheated. Twice.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Csapi007:
Galaxy S Plus

Hy

And what about the Galaxy S Plus, Samsung didn't mention it in the list of devices that gets ICS? It's barely 4 months old, it got a 14000Mhz CPU, don't say to me that it's too slow too Samsung...

How come that a late 2011 model doesn't get ICS and the Nexus S which is more than a year old gets it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] autophone:
It's funny how people flame Samsung for not making a rom they'll never use. This thread will be done when we have a stable build of CM9
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Shinydude100:
My petition is for an AOSP Build for Galaxy S and it's variants. It's actually aimed at being a huge help to CM9 if Samsung were to deliver, and if they don't, then a good deal of reverse engineering needs to be done. We don't "need" an ICS Touchwiz ROM. It would be nice to at least get an AOSP build though.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ghepard:
awwww((( bad news is bad
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shadow1997:
Hi how can i root my galaxy s running 2.3.3 ive tried z4root and gingerbreak and they didnt work plz help
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccrows:
Those only work for Froyo. You need Chainfire's AKA CF-Root for Gingerbread and beyond...
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] michel9501:
Flash through odin one of the cf-root kernel and than flash galaxian for CWM
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZiDanRO:
Or you can just use SuperOneClick 1.9.5 or higer (latest is 2.3.2 if I remember right). It roots every version of Android, from Eclair to Gingerbread.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adverserath:
Hello all,

I am aware that multiple model numbers exist with the desire. This includes the a8181, a8182 and a8183 (so I believe). I know there are different radio supports between these also, so that one model supports 850Mhz and one 900Mhz.

But I have S-Offed, reHbooted and am using the ICS rom,

My question is, how exactly can I tell which A series I am using?

Has anyone actually used 3G900 yet? Im meant to have it at work but im stuck on GPRS:1.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shankly1985:
They are based on region A8181 is EU A8182 is USA I think so on.
[Motorola Droid X2] zakth:
I did not see anything in search for this here on the X2 forums so thought I would make a post...

My battery life seems horrid. I loose about 1% battery life for every minute the phone is in use. I have take some steps to improve this but wonder what more I can do. What I have done so far is this:

Disabled Auto-Brightness and set it to the lowest option.

Installed Screen Filter which let's you use an even lower brightness.

Deleted the in-pocket app, not sure if it even worked but better to be safe.

Disabled Wi-Fi since I don't really use it.

Disabled all location options unless needed.

Only have Google Accounts syncing.

Do not use a task manager.

Have Max Battery Saver enabled.

Have data turn off when screen is off.

Screen time-out is on lowest option.

11 hours on battery puts me at 22%, 47% of that time phone was idle. Screen was on for 2 hours and used 32% of the battery. Time without signal is at 0%.

Any further suggestions?
[Motorola Droid X2] LordRalh3:
One of two things... Either your battery is shot and you need a new one or its lieing to you, get the batstat widget from the market, see what your actual voltage is, ive been ignoring the % on mine for a long time, unplugged it about 15 minutes ago and im "down" to "88%", but my batstat tells me how it really is at 4.165

from my X2 roaming the north
[Motorola Droid X2] zakth:
At what voltage or whatever will it turn off and not allow you to turn the phone back on? Last time I was down really low it showed like 3200.
[Motorola Droid X2] jsgraphicart:
All I know is two things that have drained my battery faster than normal. Location services and email automatically checking for new emails. I messed with those and get better battery life now.
[Motorola Droid X2] LordRalh3:
3200 is dead, dont unplug it untill you show 4.2 ignore the 100% saying fully charged untill it gets to that 4.2

from my X2 roaming the north
[Motorola Droid X2] zakth:
Kind of sad that 3200 is dead... seems like so much more juice to go.
[Motorola Droid X2] T3HBR1AN:
Ive had good luck with disabling network provided time under settings, date and time. My roommate has also had luck with it on his Bionic. My phone has had a lower cell standby percentage since.

Sent from my Eclipsed and ICS themed X2.
[Motorola Droid X2] Android.Ninja:
+1

I agree with that!

---------- Post added at 06:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:36 PM ----------

I Have a few questions:

Are you running Stock? If not what Rom are you running?

How old is the battery / phone?

4.2 volts is fully charged as mentioned earlier. Are you looking only at the %?

Have you every tried Juice Defender Unlimate?

Android.Ninja