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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] colonel187:
Except ios is not a good product, apples marketing makes sheeple think it's a good product. The iPhone has been behind every other smart phone and dumb phone since it came out. The features and usability of the iPhone is just now catching up.

The blatantly copied Android notifications this last upgrade.

Literally the only thing they have going for them is brand recognition and ease of limited use.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] GeezyF.Ladies:
Yeah iPhones are SUPER easy to navigate bc all you can do is scroll left to right and finally pull down notifications
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
Why do you say its not a good product? There are more ios devices sold then all the android combined. If it was a bad product even with good marketing it would not cont to sell out after each release. Think about it, if you advertize a product people buy it and its not good why would they keep buying it?

As far as the left and right comment what exactly are you trying to say? You can go side ways in android.

I know this is android board(when I started here it was WM), but you can't deny that iOS is a good product, its even better jailbroken, there are things that are lacking and behind android, but android is way behind on usuability.. now Im saying this before using ICS.

I will be keeping skyrocket and its really not that Im so trilled with android(I do like it, but not more then iOS) its because my phone simply does not work at my work, I can't get SMS/phone calls/data. With skyrocket and LTE Im good.

Now you can call it sheep or the reason why people like a better product, but at the end its usability and ease of use. I want to pull out my phone from the pocket and get what I need from it with in seconds and as few screens as possible. With enough customization this can be done on android, and since the phone is actually working at my work, Ill keep it atleast until LTE on iOS!

Thanks for all advise and support and lets cont. to help each other.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
Oh and just to add to compare usability open a email app on iOS then do the same on android. Now compare lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] colonel187:
Gmail ftw.

PS. you have to jail break ios to even attempt a small amount of what Android can do un rooted.

Answer me this.

Can ios control a dslr remotely with its USB port. Oh wait there are no standard Ports

Can you plug in sd cards and use them as main storage. Oh wait there is no way to do that. (camera connection kit only reads pictures)

Can you plug in a flash drive or USB hard drive. Oh wait. Again no Ports. (protocol blocked with camera connection kit even jail broken) fail.

Can you use flash. Oh wait. Nope

Can you side load apps. Oh wait. No.... Boo

Can you have full size images. Oh no you can't. ITunes force optimizes the size.

How is your camera on the iPad 2? sux.

Here is an easy one. Can you just simply brows files. Oh you can't?

Oh wait I know download something from the internet. Awe can't do that either ?

Oh oh what about video call... Wifi only? Lame!

How about mms, copy&paste, notifications... Only on the last 3 iphones. Every other phone = since camera phones (what's that 15 years ago?)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
Gmail client ? Really? Ever had an html email and resize it?

Im not going to fall in to a trap of the android vs iOS, but your points some what valid but what is iPad has to do with a phone discussion? Lol

Almost all things you mentioned coukd be done on jailbroken iOS device. Just 1 more thing regarding flash check out what adobe said regarding flash oj mobile. Your argument about last 3 phones is funny.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
Good list Merlyn_3D,

To tell everyone the truth, I would love to go back to the iPhone and in reality its just I cant use my phone at work while with iPhone it just doesnt work, to give a simple example Monday I was on a land line with someone and they TXTed me, it came 45 minutes later.

I guess I`m really have to no choice here and have to stay with skyrocket.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
@Merlyn_3D

Better battery life - LOL? The 4S has the ****tiest battery life of an iPhone that I've ever seen, thanks to Apple and their fail developers. They used to be great at battery life, but now Apple can't pay their developers because of all the legal fees that they have to pay, suing everyone who even remotely looks like them.

Better Camera - Apple got the advantage of a better lens, which I'll give them props for.

Better Video - In my tests, the Skyrocket destroyed the 4S's camera with ease, could just be your SR.

iPod Interface - Ew.

Airplay - I have no idea what this is. LOL.

Exchange Tasks - I never used this, so I cannot comment.

Location-based Reminders - Uhhh.... you do know Google auto sets the location of where you are into your phone as long as your connected to data, so anything location based will work on SR.

Retina Display - I'd rather lose a few pixels, and have a much better screen (OLED > LCD) then an inferior screen with a few more pixels.

One handed use - I have a gigantic hand, so I can use the SR with one hand haha.

Call quality - Now blame that on AT&T, they have to enhance network quality 5x for the iPhone, so it sounds decent.

Multiple Exchange Calanders - No idea.

Quality of apps - That's because developers don't take the Android Market seriously, since it has easier terms then Apple's app store. Go look at apps now, they're much more refined, and the popular apps on iOS that are on Android has no difference between them.

App support for push notifications - I don't want every app to push me a notification, in fact, that's dumb as hell.

Physical Silent Mode Switch - My phone is ALWAYS on Vibrate, so I don't have this issue.

HTML Email Formatting - I've never personally used this.

Syncing photos from Aperture - Isn't that an Apple program? I would assume Apple would nerf it's compatibility with Android.

did I mention battery life? - Yes you did, and the 4S is **** at it. My skyrocket is the only phone in class that doesn't need a charge all day, and I use it constantly. Everyone else is charing their iPhones by 3rd period, and mine doesn't touch the charger till I get home.

Power Management - I have them on all the time. Android only keeps the chip active, in low power mode, ready to be fired up. There's no drain on the battery.

Consistent updates - I'm sorry, but the only thing Apple fixes is the part where they remove features so they can make you buy the new iPhone.

Reception - The 4S dual antenna is crap. My friend can't pull 2 bars of signal for his life, while I max out consistently.

Build Quality - L.O.L. Build feel is what your referring to. Samsung phones are known the have the best build QUALITY. Drop your iPhone 4S from a 6 foot drop, and behold, a shattered screen! Not with the Skyrocket. Throw your Skyrocket, nothing, throw your iPhone 4S, bent metal rim. Sorry, but fanboys use this all the time, and I've proved them wrong constantly.

Lack of carrier branding - I actually like the AT&T logo on top, because it just looks cleaner. It would look STUPID without it, and you know that. Enjoy your giant bitten Apple on the back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
I was going to reply to your post, but then I read that and it pretty much explains it all...

Just a note on this

You never got an HTML email ? Or open your email client and had to scroll around ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
So today I took the 4S to work, just to try it for the last time to see if I can live with the service.

Well it took me 10 minutes to send out an SMS this morning..... I think I`m done :(

SO skyrocket it is, till the Apple Comes up with an LTE phone.

DO not bash a product just because you are using another one or not fully aware what it can do.

Bottom line is iOS specially the last release iOS5 is a great and comfortable product and OS. The implementation of the notification with in other programs is the best I seen so far, (not the pull down part, the part where msg/txt/email comes in and it does not disrupt anything) the usability and navigation with in OS and apps is great the app support is much better, simply compare Tiny Tower on both platforms, or things like grooveshark....

This is why some of the best minds in mobile hacking community prefer iOS to android, this is why iOS combined sales are higher then android all across the board, this is why Samsung and other companies like HTC try to copy as much as possible from Apple... Yes Apple is a stubborn company and they are behind on somethings, but nothing beats walking to the Apple store handing them a phone that does work(or even sometimes works, but not the way you want it to) and them handing you back another phone on the spot !!!

I would prefer to keep iPhone, but in my situation its not an option.

This is not saying that Skyrocket is not a great phone, it is, and it would be even better with iOS on it, there I said it !
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] colonel187:
Well that was fun.

3rd period? I can't imagine a school full of teenagers with smart phones.

When I was in school if you were caught using a cell phone or your pager went off in class, it got taken away. Yes I said pager......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] polish_pat:
If you compare an android phone and an iphone, it's not about hardware anymore, its whether you want to use your phone in handcuffs or freely. The choice is easy for me, i've had all the iphone for years up to the iphone 4s. When i saw what a stupid upgrade that was, and when my techno blogs had almost everyday, news about new android phone, i went for android and i will NEVER go back to iOS no matter what. I now spit on iOS, it's a terrible, well designed OS. Yes, it's much more fluid, less laggy than my Skyrocket, but screw that, i will never be under Apples dictation once again...you know whats the worst part? I work for apple in retail, and i would say 80% of all other employees have android phones for the same reasons
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cjacks519:
It's pretty funny how people can say they want larger and larger screens, but in the same breath say the phone is too big.

Anyone see a problem with that logic???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cjacks519:
I've owned every version of the iPhone and about 20+ android devices going all the way back to the G1. Gave up the 4S with all its hype for the SR. Much better fit for my personal needs. I love to tinker with phones. Android scratches that itch a little better for me

I gotta have that next, new, hot device just because its a new gadget. But for the average person, you have to go with what you're comfortable with. You can't make your choice based on what someone else says you should be using
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] enigma00:
I believe most folks speaking out against the iPhone have extensive experience with the iOS.

I am not sure if I agree it's a "great" product (which is the subject of debate here), but I think you summarized it well when you said it's "comfortable". What Apple excels at is to take a seemingly complex product and dumb it down for the masses in an extremely user-friendly way.

This theme played out in the "PC" world and now in the mobile/tablet market. It's not like we didn't have smartphones or tablets before iDevices. Apple just made them very consumer friendly. Whether dumbed-down, consumer-friendly products are "great" is a very subjective and personal question each has to answer for himself/herself.

I can't agree with you there. While it's hard to count the number of "hackers" in each camp, I believe Android-based development activities by the open-source community is MUCH more vibrant than that of iDevices (well... obviously iOS is NOT an open OS, so you have just a bunch of jailbreakers, themers, etc.). Even Steve Wozniak was quoted as saying "I love the beauty of it. But I wish it did all the things my Android does, I really do". I also think you are drinking too much Steve Jobs coolaid with comments like "Samsung and other companies like HTC try to copy". Were there similarities? Yes, and some features/designs may have been inspired by iOS, but Apple has gone overboard in terms of accusing everyone of copying its design (e.g. patents suits against Samsung on rounded-corner icons). By the same token, perhaps, Apple should get a dose of its own medicine because it can be argued that iOS5's notification resembles that of the Android platform.

In terms of the sales numbers, Android smartphones have surpassed iPhones, and there is no looking back in my biased opinion. The iPad is still outselling the Android counterparts for now, but the gap is shrinking rapidly (in the last quarter, 15mil units vs. 10mil shipped).

I agree that the Apple Store experience is great, but you do pay handsomely for the privilege of the premium experience they offer (e.g. try changing batteries on your iPhone and see how much they charge).

Again in my biased opinion, Google has caught up on the UI experience with the release of the ICS. It doesn't mean that Android devices are trying to mimic iOS, but it's an attractive and easy to use, distinctive OS, that is just as easy to use as the iPhone.

Will the iPhone camp finally catch up to where Android is in terms of additional features (LTE, NFC, HD displays, etc.) with the next iPhone? Maybe. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out in 2012 and beyond.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
Well thank god for competition, it will be interesting to see what 2012 looks like. It was very interesting to see that more smartphones got activated in Q4 then anytime before that, so smartphone market is growing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Merlyn_3D:
Okay.....

I didn't post a list so you could reply to each point and tell me how/why I'm wrong or tell me that your ePenis is the biggest. I posted it as an honest summary of the things I use/miss with each phone after having used both extensively so that others trying to make the choice will be more informed. I'm switching back to the iPhone for now and will keep an eye out for the skyrocketHD with ICS. I'm pretty much on the same page as the Woz, I wish the iPhone could do everything Android allows for, but I still feel the iPhone has more polish and beauty than any Android device I've seen, both in hardware and software.

Who are you trying to convince? You've already convinced yourself that the skyrocket is the right phone for you, and you're right. Why can't you just accept that it's not the right phone for other use cases/people?

By the way, since you mentioned it, AirPlay is pretty sweet, and it'd be even more awesome of it was an open standard so all devices could participate. Imagine being able to route the audio (losslessly compressed) or video from your phone to any computer (win or mac), AppleTV, or airport express on your local wifi network. We use it to play Pandora or other stuff through our speaker systems around the house all the time while being able to control it from the phone.

And push notifications are a great way to save battery life by only waking a dormant data connection when there are new messages to be pushed to the device. They're much more efficient than polling, which is why Google's probably implementing C2DM notifications after seeing their success on Apple's iOS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
So, I sold my iPhone 4S and stuck with the Skyrocket.... After about week and half completely with out iPhone, I have to say I miss it...

Android OS is not fully baked, not polished and really not ready maybe its the manufactures implementation of it, or so many varieties...

Things are not smooth at all, but I can learn to live with it, I do miss my iPhone and hopefully next one will have LTE so I can use it at work !!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tomtommy306:
Why the hell do I see apple fanboys bashing android in the ANDROID forum? SERIOUSLY!?!?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
You see that .... There is a huge difference between bashing and constructive criticism.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tomtommy306:
That's not a valid reason... why even come here and talk apple. We mod ANDROID here. There is an appropriate section to talk apple. It's not here. Got it.... good. Happy Modding.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] badpanda:
+1!!!

Sky Ice Cream RC 7.3 Speed!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] :
A lot of people bring up all these arguments all I can say is isheep please move on. My skyrocket hell even my evo was decades from IOS. But its about the battle of END USER or those unhappy with the status quo. The locked unlocked thing both are locked LOL both must be unlocked the difference there is the open source or closed source for the modifications. Battery life dude I get a clean workday out of it with heavy use so that's a moot point. Lets all drop this troll bait thread like a bad habit
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yozh:
What? Did you even see the title? Or read thru this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tomtommy306:
I am not directly talking to you.... just all who come here to talk apple. So stop defending yourself.... its not a battle. And yes I read the whole thread. Utterly useless. That's my last 2 cents.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Coffinfeeder:
Try out double twist. It's a very good iOS-like music player that works great. Also has lock screen controls.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Merlyn_3D:
If it's not a battle then why do you keep antagonizing all who want to legitimately compare this phone to the iPhone? A lot of skyrocket users have previously used iPhones. Having used both platforms, they can provide insight into why they choose either phone.

Personally, I read through this whole thread and have found it very useful, especially the posts where people share their fair experiences with both phones. It's helped me to make my choice. The only thing I found utterly useless are the posts that don't add any sort of value to folks trying to make the decision between these two phones, like the ones made by closed minded folks such as yourself calling anyone who even touches an iPhone 'isheep'. Seriously, what compels you to do this? It's not productive or useful to anyone.

---------- Post added at 10:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 PM ----------

I know exactly how you feel. I'm back on the iPhone now (after 2-3 weeks with the skyrocket and various ROMs) and love the smoothness and refined nature of the OS, but miss the skyrocket's customizability and data speeds. I sold my skyrocket but I kind of miss it already....argh....tough choice, it's almost better not to choose and keep both.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kennethpenn:
Please stop bickering. OP - you have some good points to consider. Thread closed.
[Vibrant Themes and Apps] sLiKK:
Groove IP is an app that lets u make calls over data/wifi . Im currently using the app but was wondering if anyone can suggest the optimal settings? I have been getting poor performance and haven't found a configuration for GrooveIP that works perfect.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] thefulleffect89:
Hey guys and gals,

I have been kind of a shadow on these forums. Never have posted or anything like that. But I think that is going to change. Everyone here is super cool and seem like my kind of people.

But, I thought a good first post would be to wish the devs, themers, everyone that loves their phone just as much as I love mine a sincere happy holidays. Be safe and enjoy it.

You guys rock.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] shovelhead83:
Merry CHRISTmas to you too.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] SefEXE:
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays!

I... still need to wrap presents... :eek:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Beekersguy:
Merry Christmas! And i just finished wrapping.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] laker666:
Merry Xmas
[T-Mobile LG G2x] thefulleffect89:
Haha just finished wrapping myself.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] dmj2012:
Merry Christmas everyone. And thanks to the devs for their work and to the members who make positive contributions to the community.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] vipaman:
Merry Christmas to all the G2x'ers
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
And a merry mas to you too sir.

Crap someone took the Christ out of Christmas. Who took it?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] SHAWX09:
Hey guys, I am fairly new to the android scene, so excuse me if any of these are simple answers.

First of all, I have flashed the Weapon Rom, and I like it, but I get tons of random reboots. It was suggested that I try using it with faux's kernel, i tried that and it did not fix the problem.

So I tried switching over to Eagles blood, and everything seemed to work great there, except I had people complaining about how quiet I sounded over the phone.

I have tried reflashing mulptiple times on each rom, and still get the same problems, any ideas on fixing either of those?

Second Questions I have is about app killers, such as, Android Booster, Advnaced Task Killer, etc.. Do any of those actually work? If so which is best to use and how to use it?

or if anyone knows a better rom with no problems.

Thanks guys!
[T-Mobile LG G2x] FatalityBoyZahy:
Did you format the phone properly before you flashed the ROMs?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] SHAWX09:
yea, I did, multiple times, Followed the instructions.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Beekersguy:
Tsugi rocks. No issues.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] 95Z28:
App killers are just a waste of memory. Something like autostarts that prevents apps from running in the first place (unless you open them of course) is much better.

And on weapon I also had reboot problems until using fauxs OC/UV kernel 0.1.3 and changing my minimum clock speed to 500.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] SHAWX09:
Well I tried that kernel, and it made my phone crash. What are your exact settings for the set cpu
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Core Memory:
I am using Weapon 3 with faux 0.1.3 rooted and overclocked. No problems at all.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] psychoace:
App killers are good when you have a rouge app that might be eating up tons of memory or it freezes and you have to shut it down. It is not a blanket tool where you should kill all your processes to free up ram. That is the dumbest thing to do. Not only is it just lazy but you are also taking out a lot of stuff you need. If you feel the phone is laggy then go into the app, find the resource hog, then kill it. Sometimes the os doesn't optimize itself properly so you just got to do it yourself
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inaety:
Hello all,

Yesterday I installed cm7 and it went fine. Today I had to reboot my phone and now it won't get passed the beginning vibrant screen. Do I need Odin to get it going again?

Thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inaety:
christmas bump
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Exel:
Try going into recovery and flashing cm7 again.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krazierokz:
try fixing your permisions.... in advanced menu/recovery
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tichs:
Hi guys is there any chance this would happen? I know that the Galaxy S 4G has everything to support this. So anyone willing to develop a port. The S2 has already a working one so why not galaxy s 4g?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1407967
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] l0lz0rss:
Wrong section :'(
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tehgyb:
No. back to general with !! ! Oh wait this is the 30th thread?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] iHelper:
I sometimes think that this is done on purpose. :/

-Sent From My Amazing SGS4G-