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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimdurt:
Would have to say no change. More bars showing but same -100dBm at my house.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimdurt:
*22899 just gives me a call not sent. What is it supposed to do?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mrZoSo:
3G was really improved in 'good' areas but once I was in 'not so good' areas I completely lost data.

My area doesn't have 4G yet so I couldn't check that.

So I went back to the old radios for now, until something better or official is released.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] weedahoe:
Im running ARHD 2.1.2 on my GNex and flashed 4.0.3 radio and didnt get any change in radio dBm

I dont have 4G in my area but my Gnex reads -93/-100dBm 2 asu while my old Droid X reads -86dBm 0 asu

Both visually have 1 bar on the screen

In my DX defense, I do remember it having two internal antennas
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Crooke356:
I didn't notice a change, however, when I have my Vigor and Nexus side by side, I get 94dbm on the Nexus and 84dbm on the Vigor. I read the statement VZW released stating there was no problem with reception but with the notification mapping relative to the actual signal. I'm not sure if the signals between the two phones are obtained in the same manner or not, but if they are....... Curious and curiouser.......
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] |Jason8|:
Pre-radio updates, my Galaxy Nexus was connected to the EvDO network. Post-radio updates, my phone is now connected to eHRPD. Which explains the handoff issues people were having and reporting that they're now resolved.

eHRPD is the technology that VZW is using to bridge data on EvDO and LTE.

No signal strength increases or decreases.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SQFreak:
Is it now capable of simultaneous data and voice over eHRPD like the Thunderbolt is? I know that the Bionic was not, despite the fact that it, too, used eHRPD.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cosine83:
Had this radio going since last night. Signal is definitely way worse in my area all across town (I work on one side and live on another) and before I flashed these radios, I had 3-4 bars everywhere for either 3G or 4G (-70-90dbm), inside or outside. Now I'm lucky to have 1-2 grey bars (-95+dbm).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] da1suk3:
Reflashed these after the data outage. No difference for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mrdziuban:
I'm not seeing any differences in signal strength. 3G speeds are doubled but 4G speeds are slightly slower. I'm hoping that these make enough of a difference in battery life for the change to be worth it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bcellis:
Just flashed the new radios and went from -112 dBm to -93 dBm which seems good. However, I was on 4G before and now it's 3G (eHRPD like others have mentioned).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bairdi:
I have not noticed much signal strength difference since flashing the radios yesterday. I am able to use data while talking on the phone when on a 4g network. Not sure if I was able to do that before the new flash.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slackwaresupport:
Just got new speed tests.

http://www.imgur.com/PBAMs.jpg
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gbdesai:
Maybe this is just randomness, but I see dramatically better battery life with the new radios, but not much signal improvement. Maybe because of more efficient switching between 3G/4G?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slackwaresupport:
my signal was like.. -75dBm 65asu when i got the 41mb down
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cbunting:
any how exactly will it "fry" the sim card? that's a good one tho
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
There were some rumors floating around of people being able to perform a *228 (even though most can't) and then taking their phone to Verizon and their reps saying that it broke something and a new sim was required to get back on track. Odds are it was a BS excuse to swap sims which normally would be the easiest fix. However, as we all painfully know, it is more than the sim card causing our grief.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hilbe:
First I like to put a little homemade dry rub on my SIM card, put it in a high quality cooking oil, and cook at 375 degrees for about 30 minutes. What's everyone else do to prepare their holiday SIM feast?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stastnysnipes26:
4.0.2 radio's

106-dBm

6 mbps down

1 mbps up

4.0.3 radio's

93-dBm

10 mbps down

2.5 mbps up

Stronger reception and a little faster on the down and up. Only showing 2 bars but I guess that doesn't really matter?

Oh and also, GPS is spot on as it was before. Will report back later on battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Valkyrie743:
you using 3G or 4G? i see you live in erie (i live like an hour from there) in NY.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I wonder if people are getting a false sense of security from this update. Is everyone noting their signal strength and network type? The difference between 4G and 3G for me is -107 vs -93, respectfully. However, those not paying attention may look at their -107, flash the new radio and then they are now on 3G getting -95 and go wow, this radio is great!

I am looking for a fix as much as the next person, but I fear corrupted data is very prominent through this thread. Instead of posting screen shots of speedtest.net, how about posting just pictures of the status page, so there is no chance of mis-interpreting the data?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Reagan Smash:
yeah, I'm noticing the same thing. Damn near doubled up on standby life

*Edit: I forgot to note, that even if the signal is improved (which it isn't notably) its worth it for the faster 3g/49 had over and improved battery life. Just if anyone was still on the fence
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Valkyrie743:
i feel the same. i only use 3g (no LTE around me) so i dont want to flash and have crappier reception.

what are these radios from? are they verizon test radios or hack/modded raido's
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sirj00:
Here are my results with new radio.

Battery life much improved, I would say 25% or better.

Radio signal is almost instant.

In south fl, my 3g went from 1200kbs to 90kbs download

300kbs to 900kbs upload

On 4g, 5000kbs to 9100kbs download

5500kbs to 2300kbs uploads

All tests done back to back at the same spot.

And regardless what area the averages are about the same.

Also extra bar or two, signal stays constant.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dparm:
That's how I feel. 99% of these posts are worthless and not objective at all. "ZOMG I GOT 42MBPS DOWN NOW" or "THIS RADIO SUCKS THIS PHONE SUCKS BLAH BLAH." Random speed tests mean nothing. All it takes is a few more people on the same cell tower to slow everything down.

Until someone can definitively prove the Galaxy Nexus has an inferior radio setup (whether it be chipset, antennas, or both), this thread is accomplishing very little.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Sadly this doesn't mean anything. Transfer speeds are user dependent, like comcast cable internet speeds. Everyone is on shared nodes and bandwidth can fluctuate any second. dBm is what matters.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ajftl:
So far switching 3g/4g its way smoother. When turning wifi off 4g connect right away. That's way better than before. Overall I think this radio works better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Irieone:
Listen, I posted these radios to give folks an option. The official update aka 4.03 from Google has been delayed. Google was kind enough to leak these radios and bootloader from the proposed update and we are testing them.

The hope was that this community would provide a solid evaluation before wider distribution. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be happening.

There is a marked improvement for me in 3G performance and battery life. 4G was not at issue and hence no change.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 4rs fed:
This new radio does not work with hotspot.

My hotspot is paid.......
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ajftl:
Root!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gbdesai:
That's weird I saw someone else say that, but I have paid hotspot and it works fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 4rs fed:
Flashed the old .02 and .05 radios and it makes no difference.

Performed factory reset and still doesn't work.....

I spent 90 minutes today on the phone with 611 reps and they want to send me a new phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gbdesai:
Sucks, sorry bro, a P.I.T.A. to be sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shade21:
Hmm my droid charge is consistently 10-20 better dbm than my nexus in an LTE area since flashing this
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I am pretty sure everyone has noticed the same thing which is what is prompting Verizon to release a fix. The same thing with the TB and the Rez.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] triphumphrey:
the link in OP is not working for the radio file
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rafarquhar:
Also having this problem and unable to find any mirrors.

Any help?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 4rs fed:
I have it.... Lemme upload it...

If you download it, please use thanks button, that's all I ask. :-)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] triphumphrey:
I downloaded new link and it matches original Md5.... thank you sir (i pressed the thanks button too)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fiyawerx:
Where can I find the link to get it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 4rs fed:
It's there now, sorry for the change.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Irieone:
OP Updated w/ Working Links

Sorry about that all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eagle17:
My experiance with the new radios is better transition I work in a building that gets week 3g/4g signals and when I go into the elevator or conference rooms they are dead spots... on my original tbolt, charge, bionic and razr I would have no data for sometimes an hour afterwards (depending on the phone) with nexus it was more like 5 to 15 minutes and sometimes I would have to do the airplane mode trick.

but with new radios it is much faster within a minute i am back in business with at least 3g .. and then 4g pops up a few minutes later...

much better transition

Edit* forgot to mention that I saw no difference in signal strength and so far this phone is a little weaker than most of the other phones I have used... I have noticed problems with voice communications.. this is the first time on VZW I have been able to say that in my region (washDC)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jrandroid:
What ia cdma sir?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Irieone:
The 3g radio technology
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] triphumphrey:
I have decided to try and furnish hard data rather than anecdotal evidence.

Here is my goal. I will test 3g/4g signal and bandwidth. Results for signal test will be taken via screenshots of the About Phone > Status > Signal (I will toggle 4g on and off), speed test results will be gathered from Speedtest.net App by Ookla and will be exported into a csv file.

I understand speed tests are easily and often affected by a number of factors and as such I will try and obtain accurate average results. This will be done by taking 5 observations for 3g and 5 observations for 4g at various points throughout the day with the end goal to have roughly 25 observations per 3g or 4g. This will total 50 observations.

Because I hope to perform all tests in roughly the same geographic location the spacing of these observation gathering sessions may not be uniform. That being said I will try and perform these spread throughout the next 24 hours.

I will then flash the radios using CWM and then repeat the observations for another 24 hours. In the end I should have 100 speed test observations and I should have 20 signal screenshots.

Wish me luck?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jason1332:
I thank you for it. I have no dbm reports because they dont mean much but I used the .03 radio for 48 hours then flashed back to .02 for 24 hours and I will say without hesitation the .03 radio is better at signal aquisition and data switch.

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Sounds awesome but be prepared the haters will still hate.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] triphumphrey:
they will have to hate data...not me lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cancerouspete:
Thank you for the radio, much appreciated! I've noticed very fast switches between wifi-4g and wifi-3g...at times its almost instant. But, switching 4g to 3g can take upwards of 35 seconds, switching back just a tad less. I am using the 'preferred network mode' in the settings, I don't know how this method functions.

I've noticed no change in dB signal level for all 3.

Running bugless beast 4.0.3, yesterday's build

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
That seems like a lot of work for data that may not mean a whole lot. I, personally appreciate your efforts, but I also don't want you spinning your wheels.

Remember, users are on a shared node and bandwidth tests are no indication of signal strength. 1,000 users sharing a 4G signal will allow a person with solid 4g coverage to experience the same speed as 10 users sharing 4g will very little 4g service.

dBm is the most effective way to measure signal, which I assume you are going to record (both 3g and 4g), but speed tests are largely inconclusive due to varying factors. Therefore I suggest dismissing these tests as they will take the most time and produce no conclusive evidence.

Without knowing how many users are on, what the maximum transmission speeds are and what network traffic is, no one is able to reliably tell if what they are getting is normal, better or worse than what they had. It's all anecdotal.

Not trying to hate, just my two cents.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jason1332:
Very valid points.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jastop:
What (how) is the phone really determining signal strength?

A couple of days ago I was ready to jump on the "Galaxy Nexus = Poor Signal" bandwagon. Not so much anymore.

My home is in a fringe 3G area, I can point to spots in my house where calls will always drop, SMS will fail, etc. It's been that way for as long as i can remember. My Galaxy Nexus is no different than any one of the other four phones in my house.

I don't have 4G at home, the reported handoff/negotiation/authentication issue should not be a factor.

What is different is the signal stregnth being reported. My GN will show 100 dbm, my dinc will show 90 dbm, iPhone might show 85 dbm, Driod 2 will be somewhere in the range also. They all seem to bounce up or down about 10 or more dbm just by moving them a couple of inches or walking down into the garage.

After three full days with the LTE Galaxy Nexus, I don't see any difference the missed calls or delayed texts that lead me to conclude that there is anything wrong.

I am also wondering what the specific phones does to determine the signal strength value to report. If one phone is reporting peak signal strength during some arbitrary interval it will show a different value that the other phone reporting the average signal strength during the same (or maybe different) interval, and a third phone could be reporting the signal strength as a 95th percentile during the same (or different) interval.

Before we all jump to the conclusion that the signal available inside the Galaxy Nexus is any different than any of the other phones can someone tell us what algorithms each phone is using? Even better would be someone with a calibrated piece of test equipment that could measure available signal independently of the handset.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I cannot. What I can tell you is that my OG DROID and all previous non-smart phones I owned never reported no service at my home or work. With the galaxy nexus set to CDMA only (apples to apples), my phone reports 23% of the time without service. I have no data or voice during these times. I don't care about bars, what I started to follow was google voice blowing up my phone with a half dozen missed call reports and voicemails at varying times of the day. Then I started to watch. I set my phone to CDMA only to rule out a lack of 4G coverage. So far, I am underwhelmed with Verizon's reports.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kangxi:
Your unit is defective. Exchange it and save yourself the headache.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Exchange it for another defective unit? Almost every LTE Galaxy Nexus is plagued with this issue, check the boards. Not just here, but rootzwiki, droidforums, etc... It is hopefully a software issue. It isn't a bad indicator algorithm like Verizon claims. All sources point to new radio firmware. Let's say we believe Verizon and it is bad indicator, but the phone is still getting great service (behind the scenes), why is everyone's battery life so bad while the phone is trying to obtain a signal or handshake between 3g and LTE?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NeoMagus:
Hard to believe youre having signal issues in Philly, do you live in the suburbs or something? All these people complain about signal but I have yet to see any difference between my Nexus and other android devices (the biggest issue I have is data drops with my Bionic). I'm in Harrisburg and haven't had one issue with it's signal. If anything these new EK 06/04 radios helped when I switch off wifi connectivity to 4G/3G is much faster than the old 05/02.

As for battery usage, I dont have that problem either, the biggest use on mine is the "Android OS" thing which apparently IS a bug .. but again Im just not seeing signal problems, not dropping service, my calls have been clear, and no drops on calls or data either.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I live in the burbs and work in the city. Funny enough the burbs have better service than the city. The tall buildings block signal and sometimes you have to get to an intersection to get clear service. That's mainly in Olde City though. In the ghetto 4g is abundant... go figure.

The 3G is not a really bad issue, but it noticeably lower in dBm than my OG DROID. MY main concern is that on my nightstand I can have -100 dBm one moment and the next moment searching for service. It is crazy. My DROID would consistently get -83/-90 dBm in the same physical location on 3g. I have disabled 4G all together because even with the new radio the handoff from 3g to 4g leaves me without service briefly, but the switch occurred so much I was mostly spinning my wheels looking for a signal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] triphumphrey:
I agree they are worthwhile points but since I will be screenshotting anyway those additional tests are largely a non issue. I just press start test 10 times. The data may yield something valid since I doubt the same number of people would be using the data at any given moment. If there are other more rubust dBm and or badnwidth tracking tools I am willing to postpone my radio upgrade to get better data.

I have very few issues currently but I am not a developer so my opportunities to contribute to this community are few. Hopefully this can make up for that.

Is there any way to perofrm those types of tests btw.... how many users are using the same signal i am using?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NeoMagus:
You do realize the Droid is displaying a different signal than the Nexus, EVDO compared to LTE/HRPD.. not that it matters I posted a pic of my Droid and Nexus with my crappy camera but they are both hovering in the same area of 80dbm (and Im posting this in my basement!).. pretty sure peoples service area is playing a big deal in this whole signal perception. My data speed on 3G on the Nexus is comparable to my Droid/Bionic so again in my area im just not seeing the issue.. like I said if anything the new radios helped
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kangxi:
Just because some people are vocal about having issues doesn't mean everyone is. I'm not. Return the unit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shimmishim:
So... some people have reported better battery life with the new(er) radio. Has anyone else seen better battery performance? I'm still disappointed with mine on 2.1.2 ARHD + stock radio. Battery drain sucks. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ozymandiaz:
Well, only flashed this a minute ago, but without making any changes, my phone actually succeeds in connecting to my home wifi, which it was never able to do before. lol We'll see if I get any other bonuses with these radios. =D

Also, verified that the hand off between wifi and 4g is near instantaneous.

Signal strength still matches up roughly with that reported by my revolution. right now on 4g for both, it's -109 dbm on the revo, -105 on the nexus, 35 asu.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hogowner:
From what I can tell. ....if 10 people install the new radios.....5 will say they helped.....and the other 5 will say it didn't.......if it works foe you...great......if not.....you can always install the older radios......each phone....area......signal strength is different.....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
EVDO is HRPD

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I'm definitely not ruling out a defective unit, but if enough people complained that Verizon is issuing an OTA specifically for it, what am I to think? Verizon doesn't throw out updates this close together. Sadly, I am one of the affected people. I didn't say everyone, I said most. I think it is strange that Verizon would release 3 radios within a week of the phone being out if there was no reception issues. In my opinion where there is smoke there is fire.

I appreciate your advice and if the OTA is not out by the 28th, I'm going to Verizon to swap out. It is very frustrating.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blaksplash:
i flashed the radio on 12/21

After checking the status for 3g and 4g signal levels, i haven't really noticed a difference. Download speeds haven't really changed significantly either.

However, the phone definitely switches between 3g/4g more effectively. previously the phone would constantly cycle between 3g/4g trying to hold the best signal. While the phone was just sitting on my desk, often it would be rather warm, and it would chew through the battery even in standby.

After the radio update, i haven't noticed the phone getting warm, except for when i'm playing a game or using it intensively. the standby battery life has improved as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GermanGuy:
I noticed that under settings - Mobile network type, my phone says " LTE:14:, I noticed on some screen shots posted here, that others will say EHRPD or something similar. What is the difference and is there any importance to this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
LTE is 4G and runs off of a LTE network. HRPD is 3G and runs off of a CDMA network.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
It's definitely not a defective unit...it's the radio that was used. Samsung is *relentless* in using cheap radios, and it goes back that way for years. I use CDMA-only a majority of the time and at work if I move it 2 inches on my desk it'll go into No Service mode. No voice, no data, no anything (except WiFi if I connect). Put a Rezound right next to it and have -90 and everything works fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kangxi:
So that means YOUR unit is defective. Mine is just fine and no issues which means that ALL of the devices don't suffer from the same issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
Are you sure that you are not in a great service area so that even a sub-par radio would get service because the area is flooded with it?

Even with my DROID I never got below -80. My problem is the fluctuation and poor handshaking.

You are saying his unit and my unit are both defective. What about the thousand of other users complaining? Why did Verizon make official announcements regarding poor reception and release 3 radios within two weeks of the phones debut? You are saying that there is a vocal few when it is a vast majority. Just google it and you will see it is more of an epidemic. Your screenshots -while appreciated- do not mean anything. I can go outside and get the same signal strength in random areas, but there is a lack of consistency. The phone is capable of good reception, just not all of the time even when equal phones can in the same physical location. There is a serious problem and instead of saying your unit is fine to people who complain, just be happy you aren't having issues and let the rest of us troubleshoot our own issues.