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[Off-topic] orangekid:
it looked like you were saying that most people owned iphones @ "the vast majority love and support Apple"

And it's not that people "hate Apple" it's that Apple is actively trying to get Android handsets banned while Android is gaining more market share every day and Apple can't seem to deal with losing market share so they supposedly "protect their intellectual property" and fight the those evil Android companies who copied their **** when Apple blatantly copied other people to produce the iPhone and blatantly copied Android in iOS 5.

The whole notion that Apple is trying to get Android products banned because Android stole their **** is an obvious subterfuge and Apple is seemingly just pissed off that more people buy Android handsets than iOS.

I actually like iOS a lot and I'm in a pending deal in the marketplace for an iPhone 4s as we speak, but that doesn't mean the company isn't full of **** and completely hypocritical on this. I like Android a lot too, and if I can't buy an HTC device because Apple protected their "intellectual property" (aka attempted monopoly on mobile phones) I'm going to be pissed.

The real losers here are the customers who just want to buy their Android devices in peace and for Apple to stay the hell out of it and just keep making their iPhones. It's not "I hate Apple" it's "I wish Apple would quit trying to make me unable to buy whichever ****ing phone I want to buy"
[Off-topic] sooyong94:
And iPhones have much higher quality construction than any Samsung or HTC phone. Palm--------->Face

Oh, did you mean the phone that actually shatters into millions of pieces of iDust?

I don't know of any other phone hardware with the same quality as an iPhone.

iPhone is a high quality phone? Seriously? With the stagnant iOS5 that has only a grid of icons and shatters into millions of iPiece when dropped?

Google's very own Galaxy Nexus has weak signal issues as well.

Verizon is going to fix it soon with a software update.

Read here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue
[Off-topic] orangekid:
I don't see how Apple uses better hardware than other manufacturers, you know samsung makes a lot of iPhone components right? (Including their processors and screens)
[Off-topic] Skv012a:
Agreed. Quality build? Who the F#$% puts GLASS on a damn phone? That alone is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Nokia make excellent quality builds. Signal, I think most companies just try to skimp on putting in good, expensive antennas to cut on the manufacturing costs more than anything.
[Off-topic] sooyong94:
Errr... LG makes the screens for the iCrap though.
[Off-topic] orangekid:
Yeah I think Samsung made their screens before LG got an exclusive contract for retina.

They most assuredly make the CPU though.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
I never said anything about durability, I only mentioned quality. A vase will break even easier than an iPhone 4. But some vases are much higher quality than others and much more valuable.

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Samsung currently makes the CPU and memory chips for the iPhone. The display has always been LG.
[Off-topic] sooyong94:
@MartyLK

You just said that iCraps has higher build quality.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Yes, they do.

Are you saying you don't understand the difference in build quality and durability? If so, that may explain why the Asian companies aren't building higher quality phones and may be fully capable of it. They may be misunderstanding it all.

By the way, that isn't meant in an insulting way toward you. It's genuine interest and curiosity.
[Off-topic] sooyong94:
Ugh.... How about this one?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw

This explains why glass is a really bad material for most electronics.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Again, it's not about durability. It all about craftsmanship. Some of the highest quality products in the world are very fragile.

Americans have always loved fine craftsmanship as well as elegant design and part of the reason Apple products are so highly favored is because of filling that desire of quality fine craftsmanship and elegant design. We all know the stuff is fragile, that's accepted. We just have no issue with it's fragility and love the quality and design.
[Off-topic] sooyong94:
OMG... *facepalms*

What Sammy did is they prioritize practically over beauty.

The iPhone is just a damn phone, not a piece of f***ing piece of art which you can admire.

I have used my friend's SGS2 and it never feels cheap even though it's made up of plastic. Aluminum gives a phone a premium feel but it will dent under its weight. How about an analogy?

Try dropping a plastic cup at 2 feet and the cup is pretty much intact

Dropping a metal cup would likely to cause a dent on the cup itself.

Dropping a glass cup? It would likely to shatter in pieces.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
No doubt Samsung makes some very nice looking phones. But they just don't feel substantial in the hand or the eye because of their lower build quality.
[Off-topic] sooyong94:
Feels substantial? Lower build quality? Mind to state the reasons? :eek:
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Creaky and loose components, plasticy. Using faux components instead of the real thing.
[Off-topic] Gusar321:
A genuine question for people: What good is some mystical "build quality" of a phone if it shatters to pieces when you drop it? Cos, well, I don't get it.

I'm not a klutz, but dropping a phone happens. It did happen to my Android phone. The result? Absolutely nothing, as if it didn't happen. And I don't have any creaky or loose components. So really, why should I care about this mystical "build quality", what substantial benefit would it bring me?

And for that matter, what are "faux components"? Should I worry that my phone may have them? Genuine questions. And if those who answer would quote my post in their answer, that'd be nice :)
[Off-topic] Althestrasz:
Several of my classmates have an iPhone and I've seen some iScreens becomming iShards. HTC offers the best protection, in my opinion. They build their cases out of aluminium, which is strong and light.

It's chiq talk for fake parts, I don't get why he said that. Samsung offers one of the best hardware experience out there.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
What would you expect chrome to be? I and most people are familiar with it being a metal and plated on metal. Not so with Samsung, HTC and other phones. They make fake chrome and put it on plastic.
[Off-topic] Althestrasz:
Thank you, but I know the difference between a metal and plastic.

Samsung uses plastic, yes. Htc, uses both. Apple, uses glass.

If I drop my phone, and it lands on the back, I think I can go without cutting my hands on my backpanel.
[Off-topic] Archer:
Pulls up chair, pours another glass of wine, opens some snacks and sits back to watch.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Apple uses metal and glass in the iPhone. Samsung, HTC and others use plastic and glass on their phones...HTC does use a very thin and flexible partial-aluminum case on some of their phones.
[Off-topic] Althestrasz:
Okay, listen up.

Apple is all about design and I can understand that, but when you use GLASS as a CASING, you have to ask yourself if that would be clever.

Rather cheap plastic backpanel than glass.
[Off-topic] Gusar321:
But, but, but... Build quality!! You gotta have build quality, man!

:D :D
[Off-topic] sooyong94:
*Grabs popcorn and starts eating* *munch munch munch munch*
[Off-topic] Althestrasz:
Rather Plastic with build-quality than glass.

I stand corrected ;)
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
I understand. But go back to my previous posts where I explained this. Apple is about craftsmanship and elegant design and build quality. A huge amount of people like it and prefer it that way. And we pay more for it because it feels good and lends a good impression to us. That doesn't take away from the reality that other phone makers would rather skimp and put more effort into crafting excuses for using cheaper, flimsier materials. Asian companies are bad about doing that. They tend to refuse to make superior quality products just like they did before the iPhone came out. That's where a lot of Apple hatred comes from, in my opinion, Asian companies crafting campaigns of hate for Apple because Apple uses more expensive, higher quality build and design. It made them have to get better. But they still will only go so much better as to keep in business and no higher.

Steve Jobs and Apple refused to obey that kind of marketing and rebelled against the norm. It was Jobs' philosophy.
[Off-topic] Althestrasz:
I agree with your thing about design. it's important, but the brick shape and glass aren't that clever.

Steve Jobs ruled over the place with an iron fist, and Apple followed. Don't forget that Apple kicked Steve out, and then bought him back because their company was going down.

But we don't speak of the dead in a bad manner, so I'll shut my mouth about that.

I would like to add that Apple hardware is not a lot different from high-end Android phones.
[Off-topic] jordanishere:
If apple is such a wonderful do-gooder company, why are their products made by suicidal surfs at the foxconn sweatshop?
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Yeah, I don't doubt it was hell-ish working under Jobs. But it all depends on the person. From what it sounds like, if a person worked as hard and as intently and involved as Jobs, they wouldn't ever see that harsh side of him. But I'm just guessing based on rationality since generally people don't tend to require of others more than they themselves give....unless you have a boss like I had...malicious, malevolent and elitest/arrogant.

I certainly don't envy anyone who had to work under Jobs.

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Never said anything about Apple being a "do-gooder". They do produce exceptionally high-quality products, though. And thank the communist nature of work in China for suicides. If people were allowed that certain freedom, which can't be mentioned in these forums, then there would be a lot of relief for those poor, haggard workers.
[Off-topic] masondoctorjt:
Wow, All I can say is WOW!!!!. Some people's blind devotion to an arrogant man, just mystifies me. I guess at least no one can be sued for having a replaceable battery or removable storage.:)
[Off-topic] MissionImprobable:
As someone said pages ago, it's the patent system that is the issue. Apple saw that they could easily patent what would be equivalent to a TV manufacturer patenting "a rectangular-shaped device with a flat screen." Apple should never have been allowed such broad patents to begin with.
[Off-topic] falconeight:
How the hell did this become a fanboy retard argument?
[Off-topic] jayjayjoker2:
Same thing I was thinking

sent from the worst network AT&T and the worst phone brand LG and a bad phone LG thril
[Off-topic] hungry81:
Apple sources its components and labour in Asia. Apple uses Asian materials made by rival Asian companies. The only thing that seperates apple construction from anyone else is the standard aluminium and glass casing. This is purely aesthetic, not expensive to make, not exclusive to the iPhone and does not add to the phones functionality. Apple does not make superior phones. They don't actually make the phones at all.
[Off-topic] alvaroag:
Apple, high-quality products? Look, part of a high quality phone is to resist the normal phone usage. It's normal for a phone to fall down to the floor and thinks like that, so I don't consider high quality a phone which becomes unusable on the first fall. My Xperia Pro has fallen down about two or three times, as it's working without problems, and even without noises on it's parts. That is high quality, not apple's. @MartyLK, could you specify why you consider Aple makes high quality devices? Note that Samsung makes many parts for apple's devices, and, for general rule, nobody makes something for others better than they do for their own.
[Off-topic] Segnale007:
what a tool!!!
[Off-topic] FinancialWar:
maybe we should hand out flyers to people visiting the Apple stores.
[Off-topic] falconeight:
This thread is just freagin stupid now. It should be on macrumors or androidcentral.
[Off-topic] Drzfr3shboialex:
Wrong! I'm pretty sure apple told Samsung how to make their devices.

http://androidandme.com/2011/12/new...nges-samsung-can-make-to-avoid-legal-trouble/
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
A good time to do it is during a launch. The Apple store where I am usually has the whole population of the state (not literally) inside that huge mall waiting for their pre-ordered iPhone or iPad. The mass of people at Apple stores is awe-inspiring. It literally shows how much love there is for Apple out there which tiny little Apple haters have no clue about.

Yeah, if a hater has enough courage to take on such a huge mass of people, do attempt to hand out said flyers. ;)

I highly recommend traveling to your local Apple store during a launch. You will be amazed. I know I was. The vast majority of Apple lovers are busy with their lives and doing others things and not only have no clue about the haters, they have no care or concern about them either.
[Off-topic] jayjayjoker2:
My local apple store is too far but there are many stores closer that carry my android
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
MartyLK is becoming the new Zeedevel. Only, this guy defends apple, not WP7. Zee got a temp ban for his crap and constant flame baiting. Fair warning Marty.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
The haters who put out such threads are the ones to be warned. Apple related threads aren't allowed in the General section anyway. This guy probably got gigged on it. By the way, from how you sound, you seem to want victims to just lay down and take their abuse. To not do so is unfair to the victimizer.
[Off-topic] Althestrasz:
I have to agree with MartyLK, I don't think you (Slapshot30) are in any position to make that call.

Apple does a lot of things, but it's legal, so there's really nothing we can do about it.

We'll see where it goes, maybe Tim Cook desides that his Patant war might not be the right way.

Each device has it's own special trait, I like the HTC sensation over the Samsung Galaxy S2, but I don't say it's better.

MartyLK says that the iPhone is better than an android phone (please do forgive me to put it in these words.), but that's his opinion.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Only in hardware quality. Android, especially ICS, is much better than iOS in features and UI. There's never been any doubt about that. That isn't to say Android is as reliable as iOS. But it is better all around. If given the choice of a current iPhone over a Galaxy Nexus, I would take the GN every time.

But, you see, the issues the haters have with me is purely personal. They can't stand anyone saying anything un-hateful about Apple no matter what is being said. They completely close down and see only evil when someone says non-negative words about Apple.
[Off-topic] Kailkti:
To generally uneducated tech masses, they would still side with apple. In their point of view, the other companies are doing the wrong due to them infringing on apple's patents. And people do usually side with the law. Well except for the lawless.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Looking through this thread it seems that you fail to comprehend or really try to understand what others are trying to say. You are right, apple hasn't copied anything already patented, so they can't be in trouble with the law. But go back and look at the ios5 promo video. Its hysterically funny/enraging to watch those idiots sit and talk to the camera talking about how they thought of all these new features and invented them. Bull. That's the difference and what gets most people on this site mad. Apple pretending and gloating about how they created things they really didn't create.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Well, then they need to learn to be in control of their emotions. If something angers you or upsets you, you are allowing it to. That means you are not the master of your feelings or emotions. You are being purely reactionary. When someone slaps you in the face, there are a number of ways to respond.

You can become enraged and strike back.

You can take it and walk away

You can control yourself and rationally and calmly attempt to instruct the perpetrator in their error

I generally choose the third solution. After a life of trouble and chaos, I choose never to hate or lose control (give control of myself to others) and simply, persistently, instruct the perps in their error. My president said something similar in a "60-Minutes" interview recently. He said he was "a persistent son-of-a-gun". That's me.
[Off-topic] falconeight:
Beaus and butthead are on xda.
[Off-topic] Archer:
What a perfect quote, from a perfect person. This forum is richer for people like your good self.

Thank you Marty for your clear level of intelligence and clarity.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
You do realize there are a lot of people in this forum that won't know you're being facetious?
[Off-topic] negrobembon:
Google should sue apple for every ios product that accesses www.google.com

huh?
[Off-topic] Archer:
Marty, you misunderstand my friend. The wise man mocks the man, the mocked man mocks the mocker.

Let us just be clear though. Are you insinuating that I am being facetious and for some reason other members of this forum would not understand?

Just out of curiosity, why do you think they would not understand sarcasm?
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Even though Google gives them full permission and even make apps for iOS? You see, Apple is the one in the position to make demands and have others comply. Until Android or WP7 is embedded deep enough into the system to give it sway, Google nor MS will be making any kind of demands. You know a phone is big when senators and big wigs prefer it over the other.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Google is on a roll these days stealing all manner of tech and design. Here we have them snagging the WP7 dialer style from MS, a company they don't dare screw with, and using it on the ICS calculator.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sim_jim:
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[General Questions and Answers] skullsoup:
Hello,

I recently got a T-Mobile Samsung S 4G phone (SGH-T959V) and tried to flash it with ODIN.

To make a long story short .. after 2 days of reading everything I could in the section for this phone, I decided to flash a new custom rom on the phone. This looked like it started to work in ODIN then eventually hung for 45 minutes at that point. I disconnected the USB wire to retry/go back to reading more.

At this time, the phone only turns on when I hit the Vol+ and Power button at the same time. It then will display a few lines in orange text saying:

RST_STAT = 0x1

PWIC_IRC1 = 0x00

PWIC_IRC2 = 0x0

PWIC_IRC3 = 0x1

PWIC_IRC4 = 0x0

PWIC_STATUS1 = 0x00

PWIC_STATUS2 = 0x0

In this state Odin can connect to the phone via a COM port (THIS SEEMS LIKE A VERY GOOD SIGN!).

I tried downloading a .pit / stock rom to reflash and reset this mess back to an OEM state but I think I got the wrong one :(

Any help from this point on would be awesome! I have been looking for the proper .PIT / for this phone. The stock firmware was easy enough to find via the search box on this site. I miss my phone and I know about 85% on this site know an incredible amount of knowledge about this stuff.

Thanks in advance if anyone can help *crosses fingers*
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darko.baruh:
Hi, first to defend myself, I did search and found that everybody says good things for every kernel. So every kernel is best for Stock ICS?

I got confused. Yes I'am total noob and recently learned how to root and flash custom rom's.

I just want to hear your opinion for best kernel running on Stock ICS.

I need kernel that is good for the battery but also snappy for the system. I don't play games and I use my phone for calls, reading news, working on excel files, google maps, mail and taking pictures.

My phone is Nexus S GT-I9020T on Wind network.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
IMO ezekeel kernels

Has lats of featured including voodoo color

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=20520270
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darko.baruh:
Thank you. Is this kernel stable?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] furiannn:
Im just trying to set it up as we speak, will let you know how stable it appears once I figure it out :P

Stuck on trying to flash an unsecure boot image at the moment.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] polobunny:
*shrugs* The stock kernel?

Unless you want the functions third party kernels bring to the table, I don't see a good enough reason to swap the stock kernel for another.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darko.baruh:
That's what I was thinking. With Glados kernel I had problems with restarting after the screen turns of, also with Matr1x kernel. Also I read that there are restarting issues with IMO ezekeel kernels. Yes I know that probably the most stable it's the stock kernel, but there is problem with battery, I had more juice with GB and CMD 7. That's why Google paused ICS update on Nexus. But probably I will stick with Stock Kernel because for me it's better to have less battery for now instead random restarts. I hate when my phone it's not in perfect state.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] furiannn:
Just managed to get ezekeels CFS on there and I get the reboot bug after going to standby.

Looking for updates but the thread is huge. Yet to try BFS.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] polobunny:
You can try and turn off deep idle for your reboots.

Solves the problem 99% of the time (totally made up stat that could actually be true)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darko.baruh:
But actualy that function (deep idle) it's the most impotant thing in the kernel. It gives more battery time. Other thing are just fancy. More battery and no hickups, I dont need overclocking because I dont play games.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] polobunny:
Deep idle gives more battery time under certain conditions (screen off but not completely idle, playing music for instance). It won't really give you more battery time if your phone is actually idle with the screen off.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darko.baruh:
But according to this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1297535 I understood differently. Maybe you are right, I'am still noob to all of this.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demo23019:
Same here but not bad at least for me just one reboot since i installed yesterday when he posted. 2.1 kernel I never got any reboots
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] polobunny:
The first post that you linked actually just confirms what I said.

1) Playing FLAC (not idle)

2) Screen off

Pre-requisites are met. ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darko.baruh:
So as I understood the battery consumption is reduced only if you listen music, because you can't do anything else when the screen is off. And the deep idle is working only in standby mode (screen off).
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] polobunny:
Deep idle only shows savings if there is tasks running while the screen is off VS the same situation without deep idle.

So for someone doing commuting (like simms22 for example) and listening to music for around an hour, they'll lose less battery with deep idle than without.

You won't actually save battery if your phone is actually idle with deep idle enabled.

It's not some kind of magical function that makes your phone use less battery doing tasks with the screen on, deep idle disables certain components of the phone while executing tasks with the screen off, instead of having it "at full speed" as if the screen was on.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darko.baruh:
Now I understood. Thank you very much.