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[Off-topic] slapshot30:
The crap they call glass on the outside of the latest iPhones (4 and 4S) is utterly terrible. It cracks easier than anything I've ever seen. Compare that to the GSII and I think there is a huge difference. You may call it 'flimsy' but I've found it pretty durable and the lightness of their phones is pretty amazing. There is a youtube video around here somewhere of a comparison of dropping the two... I'll try and find it if you'd like.

EDIT: I also think you had a typo... I think you meant to switch around "Sammy" and "iPhone 4" here, otherwise this sentence is a little confusing. Not being a grammar nazi, just trying to understand your position on this.

"Though Samsung's products are very nice and have sweet designs...I prefer the Sammy designs over the iPhone 4 design...they just aren't as perfect."
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
No doubt the iPhone 4 isn't as durable as others, but it's more solid and feels really strong. It has a nice weight to it. And that aluminum frame really makes it seem substantial.

I never much cared for the design, though, of the iPhone 4 when I first saw one. I commented to a friend that Apple should have triple-chrome plated (nickel, copper, chrome) the aluminum frame and gone with either chrome under glass or scratch-proof chromed metal on the back.

And no, I like the style and design of Sammy's phones better. I just wish they were metal and solid feeling like an iPhone.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Indeed. Making the back plated with cheap glass was a stupid mistake. It doesn't really matter though. As long as they slap an Apple logo on it, it will be bought and bowed down to.
[Off-topic] Gusar321:
This'll now be a shocker to you... because it's very clear the the ICS calc *IS* the same style as the WP7 dialer. It's a style called "plain ordinary rectangles". So by your own criteria the iOS5 notification bar is the same as Android's. Congratulations on successfully shooting yourself in the foot.

And again I have to ask for clarification, cos well, I don't get it. How can a phone that shatters when dropped be more solid??? And in what way does it matter that the aluminum makes it "seem" substantial, when we all know the phone *not* substantial? You're pretty much forced to put it in a bumper case, meaning all that nice "feel" is hidden away and all you'll actually be feeling all the time is the bumper case.

Also, shock and wonder, this is *another* thing from post 54 - willful ignorance about the shortcomings of the iPhone (the post says iOS, but same diff).

PS. Would someone be so nice as to quote this post in it's entirety? Thank you.
[Off-topic] hungry81:
You didn't really answer the question. I appreciate thats your opinion, but this does not prove Apple has a higher build quality than other devices built by Foxconn. (Or any other devices for that matter) This constant spreading of misinformation is part of the issue I have with apple and its fans and continuing it does nothing to endear me to it.
[Off-topic] Skv012a:
Buy one of those weird, aluminum bumpers for it?

What Sammy lacks design-wise, can simply be added-on, but iPhones... especially the whole glass backing, not so much.
[Off-topic] masondoctorjt:
Wow.. that's one way to avoid answering a question... If, and that is a big if, Microsoft ever tried to sue Google over that dialer, (i serously doubt it will ever happen) they would have 100 times the case Apple should have against Google.
[Off-topic] Rubysz:
I have nothing coherent to say, but the phrase "patent-troll" wanders the back of my mind...

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Off-topic] ianmedina:
Apple is just doing the right thing. What i like about other manufacturers that they are brave enough to compete with them and giving us a lot of options to buy a product for our needs. =)
[Off-topic] falconeight:
Just a bunch of baseless apple bashing from android fanboys. They aren't football teams they are cellphones get over it.
[Off-topic] Skv012a:
Well, we'd NEVER EVER even get a chance to partake in pro football, but these stupid hunks of plastic and microchips DO come from our own wallets and help us every day of our lives. I think phones are better to argue over than pro sports.
[Off-topic] Gusar321:
Hmm, let's do this for entertainment value: Please define exactly where I've bashed Apple without base, preferably by quoting the relevant portion of my posts and explaining in what way I'm wrong.

Besides, a much bigger problem than Apple themselves are the people who do what I've described in post 54. Please specify and explain in detail what part of that post is not true. Should be quite fun, considering there's examples of it in this very thread.

Like I said, just for entertainment value.
[Off-topic] LogisticsXLS:
Same rules applies in these kind of arguments, except the fact that they aren't living begins.

So if we can fight over football teams, then how come we can't fight over celly phones?
[Off-topic] PonyoDev:
Though android is very *very* similar to iOS, I don't think apple are: suing the right people or should be suing anyone at all. Its the most popular Operating System, yeah, but if they lose the case it is pretty much burning money...:confused:
[Off-topic] falconeight:
There is no scoring or super bowl. Non represent a area it's ridiculous.
[Off-topic] Skv012a:
Y u ignore my great post??
[Off-topic] LogisticsXLS:
Market share = Super Bowl

Tech Specs = Scores ;)
[Off-topic] masondoctorjt:
No worries... They can't. That's why they always just come back repeating themselves. That's why they can't understand when we get annoyed. It's a like if you said "the wheel is round,not square" they would say "it is square" you would say " no it isn't, here is a picture", they say "well, so and so said its square,so it is" then you say "did you look at the picture?" They say "i don't have to, so and so said it, so it's true" and this is where we start pulling our hair out because we can't understand this type of blind following of a business man or company. So, we just need to realize that some do not see things in the same logical light as others, so there is no reasoning with them. You can tell you need to give up and save your own sanity when they cannot answer the simplest of your questions, but still hold on to their view.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
All I can tell you is if Apple comes out with a better OS...refreshed...and has new hardware with at least a 4" screen, I will be standing in the same line millions of other people do around the world waiting for their pre-orders on launch day. The only thing going for Samsung right now is the Galaxy Nexus and its ICS and decent style. Though the back glass of the iPhone 4 breaks when dropped, the build quality, rigidity and construction are superior to anything else on the market. Take that as an opinion or however you all want, that is what I know and believe.

Right now the only thing Apple needs to do to blow away the competition is radically upgrade their hardware and software. That is something they can do and will eventually resort to when needed. If Apple has the following they do based on an old and tired design, think how it would be if they radically changed it. Never think they can't do it. Apple started this current smartphone industry with the "ever-copied" iPhone, they can improve it.
[Off-topic] Skv012a:
Its not like they, sadly, lack customers, so that'll NEVER happen. Why fix what still sells great despite being horribly broken?
[Off-topic] kriszg:
I is shame indeed.
[Off-topic] falconeight:
Tech specs are for techies with small penis's. :)
[Off-topic] Skv012a:
Tech specs are for folk who can spell, lol
[Off-topic] LogisticsXLS:
How so?

+ Ten Characters.
[Off-topic] falconeight:
---------- Post added at 02:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:17 PM ----------

Are you doing graphical work on your phone?
[Off-topic] Cyanide99:
Apple makes money because people think having an iPhone is cool. Not much that we can do about it.
[Off-topic] Skv012a:
Well, as soon as you explain to me what is a "small" that belongs to someone's penis.
[Off-topic] LogisticsXLS:
Yes. (Sketchbook Mobile, which my artwork will then be ported into photoshop or illustrator) But I see where your getting at. You're asking why would you need such good specs on such a device?

Without such tech specs in our phones today. We will be walking around with monstrosity

So to answer your question,

I want such good specs on my device because I'm one of those people who hate waiting for things to load up. I need such specs in my device because I want to be able to take my work with me "on the go". So you go ahead and say "Tech specs are for people with small penises", But just remember this. "It because of those people, you are able to do everything all with one device".

Please excuse me for getting off topic here​
[Off-topic] Archer:
This thread is full of badly explained opinions by people who simply can't accept that what they say is purely that.

Like what you've got and ignore the obvious trolls because all they have is a different phone and a different opinion.

Get over it and stop feeding each other.
[Off-topic] GoreTan:
QFT

i would give you more thanks if i could!
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
There shouldn't be anyone feeding anyone. I don't understand what apple fanboys are doing on XDA. I suppose some just enjoy conflict.
[Off-topic] Archer:
You're absolutely right that no-one should be feeding, but it's not just Apple fanboys here. This thread is full of carefully worded idiots trying to pretend they actually have a point rather than a stunted and blinkered opinion, and they're both crapple AND fandroid.
[Off-topic] LogisticsXLS:
Correct, but the fact that this topic has a title that is already going to bring in those who love to who love to disucse like what company is better or phone.

So its not like this topic never was going to get into that arena.

It's always a good choice to let admins handle such topics, if they haven't, then midest well just let things flow.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Well our resident troll zeedevel is sitting on a temp ban, some of you regulars probably know who I'm talking about. XDA is an android populated community, so obviously if you roll against the tide, youre asking for conflict/flaming. I suppose noone is at his level though. He started threads to fight to the death for his beloved WP7. I must admit, it was pretty fun sparring with that guy though lol.
[Off-topic] MilkyJoePD:
So, (have I got this right?), Apple patents stuff they didn't even invent?
[Off-topic] MilkyJoePD:
Do they even patent a way of doing something, or is it just the idea?
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
The Apple haters would have us believe that. But I believe they do invent the stuff they patent. However, they are known to patent ideas as well. That means things for which there is no actual created technology.
[Off-topic] masondoctorjt:
It's not just the apple haters, but also the facts would lead to this belief also.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Good Lord. They didn't create multitouch. They made it popular. I can go on and on with examples. Youre really ignorant if you think they invented all the stuff they patent.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
It depends on your perspective. An Apple hater is never going to see good in Apple and will conjure up only bad. Apple did create capacitive multi-touch mobile display technology. Whether you want to see that as something they didn't create, the USPO says they did create it and awarded them a patent on it. That means it didn't exist prior to Apple submitting it. And the USPO had 4 years in which to research it.

Here's where the Apple hater will say, "the USPO is full of payed off Apple suckers and corrupt". That isn't true, it's just what Apple haters want to believe to cope with Apple having patents.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Nah, I wasn't going to say that. I'll respond by saying there were product(s) out there with multitouch before the first iPhone. They were just first to patent. First to patent != first to create.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
If you are referring to the LG Prada, it wasn't first (the capacitive multi-touch display tech on the Prada was not a proof of LG creating it). Apple created the technology and LG used it. LG just happened to get the Prada created a few month before the iPhone. But LG was and is Apple's display supplier and had full access to the Apple technology.

Nevertheless, if LG did create the technology, they had more than ample time to object to the patent awarding. The USPO doesn't award patents to companies that don't invent first. If there is a prior proof of certain technology, the patent would not be awarded.
[Off-topic] bangdrum:
That's retarded. Honestly. Really apple?
[Off-topic] Tone_:
XDA is not just an Android forum.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
I know, but its obviously 90% android users... Just look around.
[Off-topic] hungry81:
Apple Did not create or invent capacitive screens or multi touch, and even today they still do not manufacture them. The first capacitive tablet to use it was built in 1985 by the University of toronto, and it had been in development in various forms since the 60s. Read it for yourself : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch.
[Off-topic] usaff22:
Samsung should stop supplying components to Apple and Google should remove Apple from its search. Problem solved. Goodbye apple.
[Off-topic] Mr. Holmes:
He said "populated." I've been lurking this forum and I'm often saddened by the level of reading comprehension that some people bear.

Modification:

Not after what Jeremy Stoppelman brought forth. Now, Google is under a 20-year anti-trust investigation by the FTC. Apple would love the opportunity to use that against Google.
[Off-topic] Chaoticjerkface:
I have never purchased an Apple product and never will. In fact I told my family a few years ago Apple products aren't allowed in my household. If I allowed my kids to use Apple devices I feel it would hinder the pursuit of knowledge(Apples handholding OS's).

I have also convinced most of my friends not to purchase Apple products as well. What worked best for me to convince them are the stereotypes placed on people who use Apple products.
[Off-topic] LooieENG:
I'd never buy an iPhone, ever.

However, I used to love my 30GB iPod Video. It was the greatest thing I had ever bought at the time. I didn't know of other audio/video players at the time, and I got so much use out of it, so I wouldn't say all Apple things suck. What I would say now is just that they're way overpriced for what they are, especially as there is now cheaper software/hardware that is far superior to Apple's in every way
[Off-topic] Althestrasz:
As much as I like that idea, that would be the end of Google.

Apple would sue them, internet censoring is forbidden in the USA. so Google removing apple from search results would probably mean that the company is going to be shut down by the american government.

Samsung isn't stupid, and they do make millions of dollars by just supplying parts and trust me, Samsung isn't going to just give that up...unless their profit on Android and Bada phones will rise.
[Off-topic] masondoctorjt:
So, you say that even if it existed before, created by another individual or company, Apple patented it. That since they were able to patent it, even though facts show they didn't create it, that the USPO let them patent it, so therefore Apple invented it? That blows my mind that your thinking could be that warped.
[Off-topic] usaff22:
But isn't the American govt. already censoring websites in a new bill? And plus, Google made its own search, they should be allowed to do whatever they want.

Or Samsung can make its prices for Apple much higher than Android manufacturers.
[Off-topic] Althestrasz:
The bill is very pathetic, they keep telling China and other countries NOT to censor the internet and they are going to do it them selves now.

You have to know, Samsung isn't the only one who makes parts, if Apple considers it too expensive they just go to LG or some other manufacturer. Apple makes billions with iPhones, every well thinking company would want to get a little money of that.

Google is the biggest search engine, Bing doesn't even come close. Google can't just skip out websites. try googling "Bing" first site that pops up is the Bing seach engine, why place your concurrents that high? because it's just fair to do, unlike Microsoft in WP7, in WP7 you need a register edit to use Google as search engine within your device default searching program.

Google plays fair, they still think that software should be free. Like Android is.
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Why are you even a member here? Join an iPhone forum.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
Apple doesn't give you free tech, so they're bad guys. Is that the gist of it?
[Off-topic] Gusar321:
Entertainment time again: Please specify, preferably by quoting the relevant parts, exactly which posts have led you to this conclusion.

After you've provided a bit of entertainment, I'll give you a direct answer to your question.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Attention everyone, he's back! Go reread the thread if that's really what you think the 'gist' is. Also, you're going to come back from a temp ban and start to stir up the same stuff that got you in trouble? Good luck.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
Read the whole thing and that's it in a nutshell. I can't help that we have some fanboys in staff positions, but I won't censor myself
[Off-topic] Gusar321:
More details please, specify which posts exactly have led you to your conclusion. If you can't provide that, I'm gonna have to side with slapshot30, you're just saying stuff to rile people up.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Exactly, (@ zee) and from now on, some links of credible sources would be nice for some of the stuff you spew. If you do those two things, we won't have much reason to argue, will we?
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
OP of course, all Apple is doing is utilizing proper business tactics.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
I'm going to restrain myself on that one. Proper business tactics... really?
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
You steal tech, my option is to license or sue you. You're the biggest in the market, I sue as it will do more damage as my profits are enough to offer security. If android was killing iOS's profit, they'd license for financial grounding.
[Off-topic] LogisticsXLS:
Shhh... Don't tell him that, It's fun when people don't get the memo. ;)
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
But who stole from who? Like I said before, apple didn't invent most this stuff, they just made it popular. Huge difference. Apple was first to patent, but not first to invent. That is the huge reason why we look at apple in such bad light.
[Off-topic] Kailkti:
By free to tech, he is referring to the patented technology by Apple.

$1 gets you a reply
[Off-topic] LogisticsXLS:
I've always thought they were in shadows. :p

Alright im done with the apple haten, can't really do that considering I have a IPod classic 120GB with my name engraved on it.

Oh yea I went there... Problems? :p
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
No problems, I had the 1st gen iPod touch before I got into all this stuff. I've since sold it lol. Many people don't know of other high quality music players, and I don't blame them. Noone else does the advertising apple has. You have to actually do some research to find something else. If you ever want to upgrade though, Cowon is the way to go. :)
[Off-topic] vdub12:
I didn’t read the whole post but I have to add I am in the middle of the Steve Jobs biography and he blatantly came out and said he stole the ideas. His quote was "Good artists copy and great artists steal"

The whole patent argument is completely stupid. The judges don't understand the technology so they judge on behalf of what a layman would and the tech company’s abuse the system by creating patents like slide to unlock. Then you have Microsoft making more off of Android then they do there own phones just because of vague patents and high paid lawyers. I hole barns and noble puts en end to that argument.
[Off-topic] negrobembon:
Say what? You do to much "you know what"
[Off-topic] wendellc:
Apple=Bose, hyped up crap! Also overpriced!
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
Bose is nice equipment, too. I don't prefer it, but it is nice.
[Off-topic] falconeight:
I also like Bose. To expensive for me but why lump it in with apple?
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Bose are overpriced. But Beats are much more easily grouped with apple. Terrible sound quality for the price.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
Bose are shoddy hardware and excellent software, they're not apple, they're just the opposite of android.
[Off-topic] vdub12:
I don't know if you have ever actually worked on an Apple but they are FAR from good hardware.

They are built out of lower bidder crap. They use foxcon motherboards and the lowest quality memory money can buy. The only thing they have going for them is a nice case. Everything else is no better then an e-machine. I was actually shocked the first time I ripped one apart.
[Off-topic] Mainspring:
way OT but...

Bose is not hi-fi!

Bose is crap and has nothing to do with real hi-fi.

product marketed to the general populous who don't know any better.

people looking for good sound should do themselves a favor and go visit your local hi-fi retailers(small boutiques, not big box stores).

don't even have to spend a lot either.

products out there like NAD, Adcom, ect for the budget conscious... heck, you can even get into tubes with products from Dared and such.
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
This. Or hop on to Head-Fi.org

http://www.head-fi.org/f/

Just prepare yourself for the Beats and Bose flaming ;)
[Off-topic] Kailkti:
I love shure, are they good? :D
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
They're actually and technically the best. I love them too and have a set of SE530s (IEMs). There was a study done by some research org that found the Shures reduce the rick of hearing problems when using IEMs as compared to the other brands. Something about white noise was mentioned, which can harm the auditory nerve, that Shures don't produce to a harming degree.

Ummm...I think it was distortion rather than white noise that causes the harm. Yeah, coming back to me. The Shures produce less harmful distortion than the others.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
Mmm shure sounds.
[Off-topic] Kailkti:
Yay thanks for the positive feedback. Only wished the quality wasn't directly proportional to the weight. xD
[Off-topic] slapshot30:
Ultrasone also has some really cool stuff being made. They have something called S-Logic that highly reduces damaging your ears, its a new technology of music output. Apparently it takes a while to get used to but I've heard its really interesting. Can't recall exactly how it works off the top of my head though.
[Off-topic] wendellc:
Because they they market their products real well. Bose sound is crap and not hi-fi or audiophile quality. Open up some 901 and look and see if its worth the $1600, overpriced. Open my speakers I built for my theater and see quality components, from the drivers to crossover components.

I grew up on bose , my father swore by them. He still has the 901, 401 and 301 speaker series. Until this day he is still a sheep, no way of changing his view, just like apple isheep.
[Off-topic] MartyLK:
That's the issue, right there. People wanting to change other people to what they, themselves, think is best. Why? Why does it matter to you what someone else prefers? You want your father to like what you like. Have you considered liking what your father likes...even though to you he seems to not know what's best? Have you even said to yourself. "I know which system is better, but my father seems happy and content with what he has, I will support him in his decision and keep my preference for myself"?

If people live and let live, the world would be a better place.