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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Good One..you got me laughing. I've been caught redhanded using same tactics some other people use carefully picking negative comments against prime..lmao

I actually can't wait to see what e newer tablets will bring. I think a 3d display, meaning everything on screen, not just movies, will be interesting experience. Ipad3 is dumpers also to possibly be 3d display. Tegra3 also supports those higher resolution specs you mentioned along with 3D display. Now I will finally read that Samsung link you posted ;)

Edit: I read the link. Very impressive sounding info on Samsungs new Soc. Can't wait to see how it stacks against Tegra3, once officially released. Especially since tegra3 also supports same ultra high resolution, and stereoscopic 3d display/gaming. Seems like by the time that chip gets released, the refresh for tegra3, Kal el+ should be due out. If Samsung chip arrives later than expected, it'll have to compete with Nvdia's even newer Wayne( I believe) chipset. Let's not even bring Stark chipset into the mix, there is nothing even projected to be more powerful. Starks is as powerful or more powerful than PC class quad core clocked to over 3GHz a piece. Now that's what I'm really waiting on..lol Nvdia, although new to the mobile scene, has a very promising looking roadmap for future chipsets. They don't make the best or one of the best PC gpu for nothing. Just because other companies been in this game longer doesn't necessarily mean their products will be better. Don't sleep on Nvdia now. They've been doing a decent/good job so far considering how new they are to mobile scene chipsets. I think the big 3 will be apple, Samsung, and Nvdia when it comes to chipsets.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GCurry:
If this Asus tablet works as spec'd, I won't be very tempted to wait for the next set of products, for the following reasons...

-- I'm at the upper end of my price tolerance now, believe that higher end tablets will be even more expensive.

-- I think the screen resolution is probably fine for me and my use, at least, and would rather that more processor be used for accelerating single stream performance than pushing higher density bits

-- I think I like more low power processors for tablet more than fewer faster ones

-- I like the expandability, even kbd dock option, which I might not even buy.

-- I like that Asus is first out of the gate and will get some volume out there for developer attention

-- I like that because of that, they'll likely be a de facto reference platform for ICS/tablet

All that said, I'm not a big gamer, just plan to use this for more comfortable media consumption, reading, viewing, web access. I'm nervous about the wifi issue and watching GPS. Hope I don't drop and break it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mr Dasher:
after reading reading the reviews of the prime I've decided to cancel my order. There are differences between gen 1 and 2 of the transformer but not enough to warrant the upgrade. I will wait for CES to see what is arround the corner. I think 2gigs of RAM will be a a needed upgrade. As mentioned i own a Samsung 7 Plus and like the build quality so I will be focusing on what they will have to offer.

I realize you can always be waiting for the latest and greatest but CES is the best way to determine when to commit.

Thanks to everyone for the input.

MD
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
nothing wrong with that. you made an educated decision vs. Just rushing to have the latest and greatest. you never know, after ces, you might come back to prime. really though, by the time the newer tablets come out, tegra3 will be going on to refresh, KAl el+. One thing for sure, prime has started the new wave of next generation tablets. I have an Ipad1 still so prime will bea major upgrade for me. its done very well for me all this time compared to newer more powerful tablets out now. I'm pretty sure the prime won't disappoint me.

Good luck on search for new device. what do you think about the galaxy tab 7.7 in. Due to come out? Supposed to be the best yet out of galaxy lineup.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
Oh so you're upgrading^^ That makes everything different :)

If you're like me and never owned a tablet the Prime is the way to go atm. But upgrading from one generation to another is never worth it imho.

@Chip discussion: Theoretical values are fine and good for marketing lines BUT when it comes down to real in life performance - not so much.

Some examples:

-PC vs Console Gaming: PC is 10x more powerful than xbox360 but (almost) everyone games on the console.

-SGS II vs Iphone thickness: (Had a discussion with someone on youtube about that :D ) the iphone actually is thinner because there's the bump for the camera in the SGS II that makes it about 1/2 mm thicker at that spot than the iphone.

-Samsungs Exynos chip: From all the chips in 2011 it was said to be the best. BUT especially at first you weren't able to play games on it (gameloft) because everything had to be adapted.

And this leads me to Tegra3. What do we need strong chips for?

-Run stuff smooth, that can be done with a 1ghz singlecore and good optimization like on my DesireHD (of course android will always have its laggy moments when it tries to do too much at once - like a Windows PC) or iPhone or Windows Phone.

-Games

And when it comes to games Tegra 3 shines. Not because of the specs but because there actually will be games specifically optimized. And specifically optimized software is always better than hardware specs (PC vs console example...).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
I don't understand why 2 gig of RAM is a needed upgrade. ICS in general won't benefit from extra gig of RAM, nor are there apps that are even taking advantage of quad-cores. I understand if your goal is to stock Windows 8 in the future.. but that's still far away (not to mention, we know nothing about Win 8 ARM version).

But I agree, it is a good tactic to wait for CES.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
To be honest I'm considering Transformer Prime for three reasons:

- Tegra3 seems to be everything Tegra2 was supposed to be,

- I don't need anything more powerful - not now, and not in the forseeable future, but I'd like sth more powerful than Tegra2 (for videos mostly),

- I didn't bought Transformer with the dock and now I want the dock - yet buying it would cost me only a little less than selling Transformer and buying Prime with the dock (and I already have someone to sell Transformer to).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morphiend:
apparently the htc tablet has the same specs as the prime so that's a no go for me. the lenovo tablet looks like it will have the best specs so I'm hoping for an announcement on that at ces.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
I understand the benefit of having more RAM as I come from PC background. However, given the current spec of PRIME & current android development.. I don't see it as NEEDED (by needed, I'm thinking required) to have that extra RAM. Sure, it is beneficial but I don't think it'll be utilized by current apps (except some games) with Android. Now, with upcoming Lenovo tablet with higher resolution, I certainly see how extra RAM can be needed....

Oh, and about Tegra 3.. (although, I don't think this refers to you).. I don't understand the obsession behind this SoC. It's the first quad, but it is based on 40nm and the benchmarks when compared to current Galaxy Tab or even Xoom 2 isn't outrageously better. It's a substantial upgrade over Tegra 2.. but I think that's about it. I also don't understand this Tegra 3/Kal-el+... it's still on 40nm with higher clock CPU. The other Nvidia SoC that'll be based on 28nm aren't even projected to be released in late 2012 & 2013, and this STARK SoC isn't even due til 2014.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrPhilo:
A Quad Core Cortex A9 is slower than a Dual Core Cortex A15 at same clockspeed by about 30%. This was proven by Omap.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
The way things are looking it seems like 90% of the people who want a TP HAVE to wait till after CES to get one.

Who knows...maybe a competitor's tablet with similar specs will come out before TP is in stock again.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
Google just announced in 6 months they will have an iPad killer tablet. It will be kinda like the Nexus line but for tablets

Check this link
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shinzz:
They did not. Google will support/endorse a Nexus Tablet (like how they were behind XOOM)... but they aren't creating a nexus tablet (such as galaxy nexus).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
Did you read the link? It basically says they are going to help be apart of a google backed tablet, like they were with the Nexus line of smartphones. I didn't say it was going to be a Nexus tablet, I just said they will create an iPad killer tablet. That is all.

"The idea sounds similar to Google’s Nexus line of smartphones."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jvnat:
Schmidt of Google didn't actually announce that Google would come out with a tablet. He was talking in the lines of marketing a new tablet. Something similar to Moto Xoom could happen. Not necessarily a Nexus tablet. There's been a lot of speculation about what he said, but he never actually said Google would come out with a Nexus tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] John Kotches:
Real world the Nexus phones aren't "iphone killers".

They are quite worthy competitors but the sales results show they haven't killed it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ryan562:
as i love my prime i am quite anxious to see what samsung releases. They r supposedly gonna release a 11" display tablet with a.retina display and a dual core overclocked 2ghz exynous. They claim it will outperform a quadcore.tegra 3 in terms of GPU by a mile

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II t989
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RussianMenace:
People are freaking out too much about this. Buying a Prime doesn't lock you into that one device for the rest of your life. When something better comes out, and it will soon, take your Prime and sell it. Unless you are in a real hurry to pawn it off, you should be able to get at least 75% of what you paid for it (assuming you don't abuse the snot out of it). Then you take that money and put it towards your new shiny. Everybody wins. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
I totally agree with you, you are not locked into a contract or anything, for the most part. Just buy and sell as much as you like or as much as your wallet can handle lol.

Also, I just read an article about google possibly backing a tablet to make it an iPad killer and thought that this was the correct thread to let people know about it. I just referenced how google did this to the phone market with the Nexus. I didn't mention that it would be called a Nexus tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I don't plan on getting rid of prime as soon as better specs device shows up. IMO, thats foolish unless people have money to burn like that. that's the reason why my OG jailbroken Ipad fitted my needs well for almost 2 yrs. it still fulfilled its purpose easily and the better specs tabs at that time, didn't seem to do anything more. or better yet, wasn't a drastic enough increase in performance/specs to warrant wanting a new device. even including the ipad2. ipad2 was a minor upgrade, IMO my Ipad played almost all same apps/games. the ipad2 optimized games, which are few, didn't look drastically better than my ipad1. all they did was boost specs slightly and added a ****ty cam to front n back..lol now, for me, going from ipad1 to a quad/5 core Android tablet was the big boost in specs, display, etc...that made me want and purchase the Prime. I have a feeling I might be rocking the prime for at least 1-2 yrs. by then nvidia will have released the Starks Chipset. now Starks is what I'm anxious for next. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the killer feature for me remains the keyboard dock. Until someone comes out with an equivalent integrated dock like the Transformer's, I'll not care one whit about it.

And, I like paying $499 for a 32GB tablet. These (rumored) higher-spec'ed devices (and particularly that Samsung) will NOT be $499 for 32GB versions, mark my words. Those high-res screens will be in very short supply and very high demand (if ANYONE can get any after Apple is through with them), and things that are in very short supply and very high demand are priced accordingly.

For me, the Prime seems to resolve the major issues I had with the original Transformer, and at the same price point. If the Prime hadn't been released, I would have just stuck with my Transformer. Now, I don't actually HAVE a Prime yet, and so this is still speculation on my part, but if it does what I'm hoping for then I'll be happy to use it for quite some time.

In fact, what's REALLY interesting to me is a Transformer running Windows 8 (which ASUS has already said they're going to produce). If it has an active digitizer and pen, and dual-boots ICS, then wow, that would be one heck of a device. Probably the next best thing to the perfect mobile device, really. I'll happily use my Prime until that puppy comes out, and then jump back on the pre-order bandwagon just like this time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
Windows 8 on ARM won't run any Windows app though (so no full Photoshop - only the one we have on Android). Don't know why people expect it to be better than Android somehow - on ARM it will be like Android but with less apps and possibility of viruses (because it's Microsoft).

If it will be x86 tablet - Android will probably be problematic until Google makes x86 version at last (the current x86 Android is not made by Google).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jfranco328:
I agree completely. Not to mention the extra battery power and additional ports that the asus keyboard brings along with it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nook-color:
No single phone is an i-phone killer. No single phone will ever be an i-phone killer. But " android phones " as a whole are i-phone killers, because they are selling more Droid phones than i-phones.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tylermaciaszek:
I really like this guy see him posting all over and always had the right ideas and he is staying positive about the prime
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RussianMenace:
People need to stop thinking in iKiller-terms. Nothing is likely yo "kill" the iProducts. There is a consumer base for each camp Android, iOS, blackberry, etc. Just like there is Windows and Mac OS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] The Janitor Mop:
I'm absolutely waiting for what will come out in 2012, even though I was initially excited for the TF Prime.

I know people always make the "but there's always something new in 3 months" argument, but this case is unique. The TF Prime is an in-between type of device, sitting definitely above the first generation but definitely not at full 2nd generation status. It makes sense to say "but there's something new in 3 months" for, for example, the Droid XyBoard. It's an example of a 1st generation tablet that's coming out right before the dawn of the 2nd generation. "But there's something new in 3 months" doesn't have as much impact if you get something that's at the start of the 2nd generation, because almost all of the tablets of the 2nd generation will have very comparable specs. So there will be a HUGE jump in specs 3 months after the XyBoard (going from 1st gen to 2nd), whereas if you get an early full 2nd gen tablet, the 2nd gen tablets coming out 6 months after yours will only have minor improvements over yours (because within a gen, all the tablets will have comparable specs, so the improvements the later 2nd gen tablets will have compared to early 2nd gen won't be very significant).

For me, I'm waiting until I see a tablet that has a A15 chip, a great GPU, 2 GB of faster RAM, much better memory capabilities than the 1st gen tabs (none of this 1-lane or whatever GPU bottleneck), higher resolution screens, and similar improvements. The rumored Samsung tablet for 2012 could well fit the bill. I much prefer getting a relatively early 2nd gen tablet that will still be essentially top tier for the duration of an entire generation than a late 1st gen/hybrid gen that will be significantly behind in only month's time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
I hope we see a nexus tablet!

Then I will need to sell my prime and get it!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mithent:
This. It transforms a tablet from a novelty to being something useful, for me. Yes, there are Bluetooth keyboards, but that's a whole load of faff that's going to discourage me from using it regularly.

A higher-resolution screen, in particular, wouldn't change anything about the use-case for a tablet. It's nice to have, sure, but it's not as if 1280x800 is actually causing anyone any problems. There's more of a case for faster CPUs/GPUs and more RAM, but even then it's a question of degree, and I'm happy to accept the tradeoff of not having the fastest GPU on the block if it means I get my keyboard dock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] The Janitor Mop:
Yes, that is a valid point. The keyboard really is the selling point of the TF Prime. It almost won me over, but for me, I finally realized that personally no tablet will be something truly useful until we can do Word and other staples of the laptop world. That's why I now value the ultimate in specs even if it means forgoing having a great dock.

But if having the keyboard does make it useful for you, than even though tablets with better specs will be coming out in early 2012, the TF Prime will still probably be the most useful one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] agtitan:
I'm curious to see what the ipad3 will have. I ordered the Prime (upgrade from my original Transformer), but it hasn't shipped yet from Amazon. I think I'll have 30 days to test it out once they ship it, and I can return it to choose something else if I want.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
The only problem I see is that when connected to FullHD TV and playing lower resolution video it will rescale it twice - once to tablet screen and second time to TV screen. It could be resolved by software though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RussianMenace:
When you play full 1080p content over HDMI it is not displayed on the Prime at all but instead, pushed directly to the external screen.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
This is great but I was talking about situation (it's rare these days, I know) when you play for example a 640x480 video - wouldn't it be first rescaled to 1280x800 (the tablet resolution) and send to TV as 1280x800? The TV will then rescale it second time to 1920x1080? Maybe it won't impact quality anyway though. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tommynosedigger:
Has anybody figured out a way to turn of the LTE antenna. I'm curious if there's an app to disable the antenna, LTE is great but i need ways to conserve battery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] offwiththeface:
Yes go to wireless networks and the mobile networks and select the ones you would like
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Psychotc:
How to turn off LTE (sgh-i727r tested)

Home screen -> menu button -> settings -> wireless and network -> mobile networks -> network mode
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
that option is only available on custom roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Psychotc:
Sorry, Didn't realize how locked down ATT devices are.

I'm using a stock rogers i727r.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tommynosedigger:
I cant even switch to 2g network like previous versions of android. I am looking for something similar to the HTC evo's ability to turn of the wimax antenna. I tried an app designed to turn it of for the htc thunderbolt but obviously it didn't work. looks like LTE is locked on by the firmware, and there is no way to turn it off. I know that i can force the phone to disconect from lte my fooling around with the apn settings but the antenna will still be on even though its not connected.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] M0D1441:
if you're rooted you can pull the settings.apk and settingsprovider.apk from the BoneSTOCKeteer (in System/App) ROM and push it to your ROM to System/App using Root Explorer, if you know how. (the Roger's ROMS allow you to change network mode)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tommynosedigger:
Thanks for the advise. I ended up runing the rogers rom it has much better network control. Sadly the keyboards included in that rom are junk. I prefer the stock keyboard.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] GalaxySkyrocket500:
I turned off LTE/DATA.. by turning off "data packet"... use wifi and still get calls and texts and even better battery life.

Stock rom and rooted
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sirgatory:
Easier way if non-rooted:

Use the media Net apn, instead of att pta.

the media net apn only runs on 2g/3g.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] promiseofcake:
No dice, still had the same settings.

*** EDIT ***

Wiped and flashed BoneSTOCKeteer and now the settings are there. However only GSM/HSPA/LTE AUTO and GSM/HSPA AUTO work, GSM ONLY and HSPA ONLY do not work for AT&T apparently.
[HTC EVO 3D] Anonamoose:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitio...gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl

Sign up to be able to pettition the White House. Already because they recieved 30,000 signees they delayed the hearing from today 12/21/2011 to January. They longer we can stall or stop this the stronger oppostion can grow please help.

(sorry for grammar in a hurry)
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
Best YouTube video ever (sopa cabana)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w6GtwOvnWM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[HTC EVO 3D] the_lane:
Signed.

Booo SOPA
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Workaround for SOPA on firefox

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/desopa/
[HTC EVO 3D] Anonamoose:
Thanks Haus but personally I'd rather stop the bill before we NEED to use something like that (but it's still installed on firefox for me lol).
[HTC EVO 3D] evolution3d:
Signed.

Down with SOPA!
[HTC EVO 3D] willfck4beer:
Down with sopa / pipa

last straw if he doesn't veto this... will show his true colors.
[HTC EVO 3D] JohnM:
I patiently await for the plugin to be ported to chrome...

more OT: They are going to bring in the "experts" on the next hearing so I hope it doesn't pass. We won't know until after since it will be private.
[HTC EVO 3D] mike.r.olson:
Signed and shared to my tens and tens of Facebook friends.
[HTC EVO 3D] Bear gri11z:
LOL