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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
You answered my question. The satellites are broadcasting and the the GPS chip is receiving. But to do that, the GPS chip is constantly transmitting in search of a signal. Therefore, it's not passive as was said in earlier posts.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Thanks everyone for the crash course in gPS technology ;) I will test my GPS out soon also. need to be outsside. hard to get a lock inside an apartment in a brick building. I need a case but I guess I can go on balcony to test out also. will report here once I do.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aimfire72:
Tried mine out last night, indoors. GPS worked fine, found me on Google map within seconds.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkeyboywa:
Transmitting to Receive? that's a contradiction in Radio concepts.

Crystals receive frequencies that are "floating" in the air. to Transmit a request for a signal..just doesn't make any common sense.

But biggest thing to say..is we're digressing for the inherent spirit of this thread. it's not GPS theorycrafting..(yes a wow geek) it's whether or not you have GPS out of the box and WHAT if anything you've done to get good signals.

Can we defer what/how/why gps theory is established and focus? I personally like geek talk but we start to diverge from intent and it gets harder for people to comb these forums.

So in spirit of the OP, I too cannot get a lock. My lg gx2 with ONLY GPS enabled..(no wireless data network use) and it locks on 2 satellite inside my dungeon that has 1954 plaster walls in about 5-8 seconds...my GS prime? nothing but a big fat blank screen...

I've tried different programs, i have the update and i'm going to stand out side like a dork for the suggested 15min..(well i'm going start to put in a transmission while it's doing its thing..)

No offense intended to any previous posters...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bimboy:
The yellow light means it is on. Green equals lock. It may say accurate to 90 feet, but it was within 20 feet from where I stood though. Have not used it in a car though, and doubtful that I would. I have built in nav, and a SGSII with 4.52" screen, that I use on business trips with iGo.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Kell.nl:
After seeing this thread, I got worried. So I did some testing.

I used GPS Test for my results.

Usually in my computer room at home, I am able to get a lock. Never had a problem with either the old Transformer or my phone (Droid Charge). Signal is not as strong (accuracy can be somewhat low) and not as many satellites as outside.

I installed and used GPS Test on the TFP with WiFi on and let it sit for 15 minutes. No GPS satellites got detected by it, whereas my phone (right next to it) showed 5 sats, with 5 in use (pretty weak signal though).

So I got worried.

I took my TFP outside (clear sky, no tall buildings) and sats started showing up. After about 2 minutes, it saw 15 sats and was using between 11 and 13 (fluctuated some). Signal was not as strong as my phone (which also saw 15 and was using 14~15 of them), but accuracy was 30 ft on both on them.

Turned off WiFi, rebooted and saw the same results.

Now when I take the TFP back to my room, it sees 5~6 sats and uses 3~4 of them, all within seconds of starting GPS status. Accuracy fluctuates between 60 and 90 ft. And it doesn't matter if WiFi is on or off.

I will still test with the TFP in my car, since I actually use it for navigation. I built a mount for my old TF101 which worked wonderful, and I hope the TFP will do also. Tomorrow I will have a roadtrip, so I will turn off GPS and WiFi until I get there and then with WiFi still off, turn on GPS to see how fast of a lock it will get.

Btw, if you pick up a TFP at Fry's in Roseville and it is $25 off, it has a stuck pixel on the left (always on). I returned that one because I don't like pixels being stuck. I was somewhat shocked that they just put it back on the shelf...

Also, I already sold my old TF101, so I couldn't use it to compare...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TheWerewolf:
Update - now it's working!!!

I did a complete wipe and reset last night - nothing. So I called to take it back for replacement and was told they could either send my unit back to Asus for repair/replacement or wait until they get more in - either way 2-4 weeks. So I asked if I could hold onto mine until they got more in and they agreed to this - but not before I wiped my Prime one more time (thinking I'd be handing it over to them).

Off I go to see a movie and before going in, I reset my slate again and start the update process. That finishes. As I'm walking across the parking lot to my car, on a whim, I try the GPS... and blam... 11 satellites - a solid lock and it's all working fine.

Definitely not as sensitive as my ViewPad 7 ... but it does seem to work. In my case at least - it seems the people who have been suggesting it's a problem with being indoors may well be right. It looks like the one I have just isn't sensitive enough to pick up indoors.

Still better than it not working at all.

I recommend the suggestion made earlier: take it outside and wait 10-15 mins for a fix to happen.

Thanks for your advice and suggestions.

Merry Christmas.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n11:
My gps test.

My gps test

I hooked up to wi-fi while indoors and opened Google Maps. As others have reported it picked up a location using wi-fi but it was at my neighbors house (say off by 15 yards) and gps would not lock. I then went outside with a clear view of the sky and set the TF201 on a flat surface. It took about 10 to 15 minutes but it finally locked. The range circles got smaller and it adjusted to within feet of my location.

Here's something that I noticed that may help some folks. When the unit went dark and then woke up it was again fixed on my neighbors house, I'm guessing it went back to wi-fi. But...at that point the gps locked in again within 5 to 10 seconds.

My suggestion to those who are having trouble getting a fix:

Start on wi-fi to get a rough fix

Open Google Maps

Set the screen timeout to longer than 15 minutes

Go outside and set the TP on a flat surface

Wait outside until the gps fixes or until it starts to rain, snow or it's time for breakfast

Report back to us interested folks

I'll now answer the poll and report that my gps works.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrGiggles:
I just did this.. out at the water. and I could not get a fix GPS or from WIFI hot spot of my cell phone.. testing here on local wifi and stil not getting a fix even after resetting and starting over haha... IT did work now it will not.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RiPPn:
So I was in the boat of no gps, no satellites etc. So I was running "gps test" and decided to shake the tablet like I was trying to erase an etchasketch, to see if maybe something was lose and nothing happened. However, after a complete power down and bringing it back up it was now locking on to 12 satellites! But after using it around the house and that decided to check the gps and again, dead no satellites. Shook it like an etchasketech again and rebooted and it's back to working again. It appears to me that something may be lose in there.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
More likely the reboot helped not the shaking.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RiPPn:
Rebooted several times in the first few days with no success, so it wasn't the reboot.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrGiggles:
Reboot helped me too

Sent from my Desire HD
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] arcticreaver:
hopefully more people have their primes and can vote in the poll.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n11:
I reported in an earlier post that I got a gps lock. Now for the rest of the story. Today I tried to use Google navigation for a simple five mile drive. I turned it on, set the destination, and got a gps lock. Then I started driving. It lost the lock and didn't regain the lock until I stopped in my driveway. The TF201 was sitting flat on the seat, facing up toward the sunroof. It does appear that the gps is not ready for prime time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Smitherines:
I see what you did there...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n11:
Thank you...thank you very much.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Its a real issue. In my house using GPS Test my phone gets 7 locks in seconds with 50ft accuracy & my Asus.... nothing in 5 minutes but 1 signal & no locks. Wtf!

I sent them a text support injuiry & sent them this URL
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] new2q9c:
my gps works now

I had to check all 3boxes under my location. At first just the gps was checked and i couldnt refresh my location. Hope this helps.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n11:
All three of mine have been checked.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] louvass:
No GPS

I had GPS working out of the box, as soon as I updated the firmware a day or so later I have no GPS at all. It just won't find anything. Thought the updates were supposed to help ! Any suggestions ? Thanks
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sandiegopaneraiguy:
I sat my TFP outside for nearly three hours today. Not a single sat. was found... GPS test confirms GPS is listed as turned on, but it won't work. I even triedthe shaken baby suggestion...

Taking mine back tomorrow, willbuy again when it is re-released.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rgpie75:
I have champagne 32gb model purchased from Amazon in the first group of preorders. Still want to give it another try because I only gave it about 10 minutes to try for a fix but had no luck.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] erick0423:
Same issue here..i tried and sit in (1hr), (reboot)open door and wide view with the sky no luck for me,so i was disappointed ,sold mine in CL for how much i paid for ..i can still return it but dont want to do all this shipping and waiting BS##T.ill just wait for next batch.i think asus knows that some batch have gps issue they just dont wanna say this until they can make enough units for everybody and exchange units.this only my 2 cents. Well atleast i have my prime for x mas..;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeptikal:
The first time I tried my GPS I was in my car because it was snowing and I only gave it ten minutes while driving and it of course didn't see any satellites. Today it was finally clear skies so tried again. Within about ten minutes standing in front of my house it found five sat's but never fixed. I was using GPS essentials. How long should I give it to get a fix? How many sats does it need to see? Do I need to do anything else to get a fix? Also if I am able to get a fix will it be much faster in the future? I realize a lot of these questions are probably on this thread. I'll read back thru.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nukemanmd:
Has anyone raised the GPS issue on the Asus support website?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] arcticreaver:
Yes. I alerted them with an email an contacted their support site.

I have yet to hear back from them.

Revieved my prime on 21rd. Emailed them on the 22nd.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] gogol:
Is it possible to read the built date or fingerprint? Then compare between the one which work and does not work ...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nxp3:
Most likely your GPS wasn't working in the first place, you got a fix from wifi. Not a lot of people having success with GPS, even those that do have weak signal.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Don't have my TP yet but has anyone tried GPS Status from the market? Open the app, go to tools - manage A-GPS state - reset - download.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nxp3:
Done that, don't help, a lot of us have downloaded gps status to check it. Outdoors very sporadic fix on satellites, from second to second, I can have 3-11 satellites, but maybe zero fix on satellite, and just standing outside, it can go from 2 to 3 to 7 back to 4 and mostly zero fix on satellite. It's crazy. All this time the google maps is displaying the gps symbol and when you click on it, it says searching for satellites. So we know for a fact that it's not getting satellite fix. Sometimes it would pick up your location, but this is probably through wifi and not the GPS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] madpoet:
My Prime arrives today and I sold my TF101 a few weeks ago, so I've been a little concerned with this thread. I admit I don't really use GPS on my tablet since my phone has it, but I agree with the sentiment that if I paid for it then it should work ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bimboy:
I am one of the few not having problems with my GPS. Has anybody looked at the gps.conf file in the /etc directory?

Normally, it will contain many listings for different servers to hit. The one on the Prime only has one server and it is not geographically specific.

NTP_SERVER=xtra1.gpsonextra.net

Since /etc is read only, unless you are rooted, I will have to wait to play with it, but I know some of you were able to root, and it is an option for you.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrGiggles:
I am assuming soothing changed. I am sure it can be fixed we just have to wait like we waited for the prime... quietly... HAH
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nukemanmd:
I wonder if they know the magnitude of the problem?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
Reach out to them, Twitter, FB, email.. I sent an email with the link to this nearly 30 page thread with nearly 16000 views. It is a real issue, they need to know and be bombarded about it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] monkeyboywa:
i'm sorry to say, but if you'd have read all the pages in this thread you'd know the answer to that question.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] arcticreaver:
My original ticket with them have been unanswered and its been way passed 48 hours so the ticket has been escalated. Hopefully I hear from them soon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
I sent an email, posted this URL on their Twitter and had my chick hit them on FB about it. I am not a social media kind of guy, but this needs some addressing so just trying to make them aware of it & doing so socially might help.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] n11:
I've read every post in this thread and I did get GPS Status a few days ago to see what was going on. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't know that I should go to Tools and do a reset. When I did that I immediately got a fix on 8/8 sats while inside my house...and it's stayed that way. This may have been the answer I was looking for and I pushed the Thanks button for yumms.

Now, I'll try it in my car using navigation and see how that goes.

---------- Post added at 12:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:43 PM ----------

Once I left the wi-fi area I lost everything so I dicided to turn off wi-fi as a location method. Now I've used reset in GPS Status and I'm trying to get a fix...it's been about ten minutes and nothing yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] g0t0:
Just got off the phone with tech. theyre sticking to the whole "you have to have wifi on for gps to work". Then after I told them I tried using "gps fix", "gps status" and a couple of other apps to locate satellites, they said "are you SURE those apps are compatible with the Prime?". I told them it doesn't say theyre NOT compatible with any tablet and asked what app I should be using. He said "i don't know, this is TECH services you called, you know?" (talk about an asshole...)

After arguing with him for a few more minutes, he said to do a data reset. I got my ticket number, reset my tablet (losing ALL my cool stuff I ave to reinstall...) d/l gps status and aint getting sheeeooottt!

Calling them back now. theyll probly just tell me to return the damn thing.....so jakt up:(

UPDATE: Spoke with a different tech. Told him the issue. He said since I've tried the software side of "fixing" it, to exchange it with another one at BESTBUY. I told him there are none in stock where Im at. Gave me an RMA # and said it will be a 7 business day turn around. WAAAAA!!!!!!!

On top of that, they wont upgrade it to ICS. Its an OTA thing, he said.....:-(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] original G:
If this is the cause Asus needs to ninja OTA a new config file and be done with it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
post the # you called, I will call them also.

my phone can get 6-7 satellites

locked in seconds

, my Prime... zero (0) none
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nxp3:
Was the tech name "elvis" or "any actor name here"? I haven't had to call them yet, but are they a bunch of indian folks who only solution is to "reset"?

This is what I'm afraid of, and I'll get Raged too if they say stupid stuff. That's why I'm holding off for a while til someone like you :) put in a ticket, hopefully we hear something from a real tech with some answers.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] peare:
If none of the sold units worked we could think this is a firmware or software issue. Most doesnt work, including mine, but some work: that means this is a hardware issue. Faulty chip? I dont think it is a loose part not connected, etc... They cant be that idiot. In the production line can you believe that more than %50 of the units were not soldered well? %5, maybe. Even thats high. Dont they test those in the factory?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] g0t0:
888-678-3688 CANADA and USA ONLY. Both times took about 10min to get an tech. And YES>>>THEY WERE BOTH INDIAN.:D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
called same number, same person type, same result = send back or reset

no acknowledgement of the issue
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] thomslik:
UPDATE 12/27/2011 Now that I have has some time to use my new toy, there does appear to be a problem. While my Prime does usually lock on and find its location fairly quickly, it seems to repeatedly reset the GPS at random intervals, losing the position and restarting the process. As others have stated, the signal reception does seem marginal and not as sensitive as some other devices.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] arcticreaver:
looks like the techs have no idea what is going on. i wonder if they even have a prime in front of them to test the issue.

regardless, i will file BBB if left unanswered. my patience is wearing thin.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] erick0423:
This is a headache for everybody knowing our prime is not working properly..i know how it feels,thats is why i sold mine and dont wanna deal all this bulls*** and non sense argument on the phone, just ask for refund for your money or exchange it from the vendors hopefully u will get a working unit. 50/50 chance though.so i decided to wait a month or 2 months after fixing all this issue.And waiting for CES what they have coming this 2012.Good luck guys!!!

Sent from my iPhone
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] TalynOne:
Well, crap. If the GPS issue isn't resolved by mid January then I guess I'm canceling my preorder for the 64GB...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tylermaciaszek:
My GPS works really good locks on quickly every time I boot up my device because it has to find my location for a weather widget.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RussianMenace:
You sure it's using the GPS and not WiFi? Mine finds my location for weather just fine...but GPS doesn't lock on satellites and Nav doesn't work (searching for sats for almost an hour and nothing).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] arcticreaver:
i see others saying rebooting or a bunch of steps to do just to get GPS to work. to me this just sounds like a hassle to get something that is suppose to work right off the bat.

sad to say i might bail on the prime tomorrow. deciding if i should return my hard earned cash for ICS galaxy nexus.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] yumms:
Anyone try this app for a fix? http://www.androidcentral.com/quick-fix-gps-issues-your-new-samsung-galaxy-s-series-phone

Whoops...never mind. doesn't work.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] arcticreaver:
didn't know prime had a dialer. but i guess i'll try this when i get home from work today.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tylermaciaszek:
Turned off wifi went into maps found my location
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] theoner1:
yup same problem here. im on my second prime champagne 32gb in two days. the first one had like 7 dead pixel, bleeding and nonworking gps. second one is almost flawless with exception of the gps is working half of the time, keep losing connections while using navigation. also not as accurate as my phone gps. i wish my xoom comes with ips screen and teg3 then it would be perfect for me. xoom video recording is much better too in low light environment, and flawless gps.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
what is going to be the resolution asus will put in place to fix this gps issue? Are they going to physically need to replace something or wil it be a firmware/software fix
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tylermaciaszek:
They can probably fix some values in the software
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] madpoet:
Tried my GPS this morning for the first time, busted.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nxp3:
Has anyone submit ticket to asus

Anyone tried to submit a ticket about the GPS....anyone got any answers back? I'm willing to wait if they are going to take care of this issue, but if they just pretend like nothing happened I'm returning this ****.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jdbaker82:
Agreed and everyone else should return theirs too if they ignore it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BixBix78:
Not to stray but has anyone compared the prime's bluetooth range to that of another android device.

I wonder how it fairs being encompassed in metal.

I will be developing a simulated metal back for my prime once I receive it, which will retail for $29.99... Any takers?

ok, maybe not but it would be interesting to have a comparison of wifi, gps, and maybe bt without the metal back.

Hmmm.

From ehow

"Remove any metal from around the Bluetooth antenna. Make sure that there is no metal near it or it will cause interference to your reception. If you have a Bluetooth phone, purchase a case or clip for it that does not have any metal on it."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BixBix78:
Here's my ad campaign...

Having wifi connection issues? Tired of never being able to get a gps lock? Is your transformer prime letting you down? Well I have the product for you. For only 29.99 you will be able to have a fully functional transformer prime. With the miracle of a material called "plastic" I am pleased to inform everyone that those days of no gps and poor wireless connections are over. I guarantee with my simulated metal back you will no longer need a wifi connection for your GPS to function. Order now and get a second transformer prime back half off. Brought to you from BA enterprises. Lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] madpoet:
Where do you submit a ticket?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Lock-N-Load:
when you download GPS Test, what does it show? a full compliment of satellites and locks on them?

I turn off wifi, turn on GPS and it cant find **** in Maps