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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pmcc:
Tecnicians? We don't need no stinking technicians!

I went into a VZW store to try and get this update since I had several dropped calls today. They said they had no way of updating the baseband in store since they don't have technicians in their stores anymore. They offered to send me a new phone that would have the new baseband installed but I am just gonna wait to see if I get an OTA update over the next few days.

They repeated more than once that the release notes on 1515.10 said it had nothing to do with voice, only data and doubted the older radio version was the culprit for my dropped calls.

It could have been the person that I was talking to (Sprint user, as was I formerly) was the reason for the dropped calls which kept happening back to back. I have between -100 dBm 1 asu and -93 dBm 2 asu in the location it happened at (home).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] innov8ion:
Thank you. I installed the radio from v4.0.3 on my backup VZW Galaxy Nexus. In settings, my baseband is reporting "1515.09 V.EK06 / 1515.EK04". Yet someone said that 1515.10 is the newest?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I thought it was said that .10 is the hardware revision and that software won't update this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NeoMagus:
EK06 /04 are the newest radios compliant with 4.0.3. , .2 was EK05 /02
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] innov8ion:
Thank you both. This makes sense... Wonder what was different in the hardware configuration. Don't care that much, though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rman18:
I installed the new radios yesterday (a little late), and I haven't noticed a difference. I'll keep them installed, I was hoping for better wifi reception at home. My Incredible was able to pull wifi in my bedroom and the GN struggles.

3g is MUCH better on the GN compared to the Incredible though. I get 3 bars (80dbm) at work where the incredible would get 1 bar (~95dbM) consistently, so overall I'm happy with the radio.

Just My 2 cents.

Rob

Edit: HW 1515.09
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] idkwhothatis123:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the radios have nothing to do with wifi reception.The radios are specific to receive cdma and lte signal. A new radio baseband would only potentially help with a boost of signal from a cell tower/site.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
You are correct.

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If you are having an issue with WiFi signal strength, go into the router settings and change it to channel 11. This bumps the frequency and helps to avoid the interference it would normally see on a lower channel.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brycetrem:
My 4G speed went from 10mb down/up to between 30-40mb down and 20mb up! This is for Cleveland area in Ohio. Didn't do anything for my 3G where I live, still get almost nothing. Wireless sync and 3G/4G hand-off seem to be much more efficient. Going to stick with the newer radios for the time being.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KneeDragr:
I wish you guys would post up which hardware version you have with your results.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
Where can that be found.. I do see hardware tuna?

Sent from my vzw Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KneeDragr:
A few posts back its explained - 1515.09 and 1515.10 are the hardware enumerators in the baseband.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
Got it, I have the 1515.09

Sent from my vzw Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KneeDragr:
How is your reception?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brycetrem:
I have the 09 base as well just in case someone was interested.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
I just got off the phone with verizon, and apparently .10 is the updated version that was supposed to been released on Dec 14, 2011, yes Dec 14th. I spoke to 2 different reps and that is what they said and one of their tech people. I also called and spoke to one of the reps at a verizon store and they said theirs was only .09 as well.

Also according to the Verizon tech the .09 and .10 are both software version not hardware versions. Which seems odd to me. I wonder if it really is a hardware upgrade and they sold all the initial phones even though they had the bad radio.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 1.4hitachi:
Why not just release a .tar for Odin to flash just the radio? I didn't think a new boot-loader was required for a new radio.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wade-0:
I ran the 403 radios for a few days (i515.09 hardware), but I noticed that it would consistently NOT reconnect with my wifi when I returned to work/home, and I had to manually disable/re-enable wifi for it to reconnect. Flashed back to the 402 radios and it's working fine now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
Before and after fine. I just came from sprint tho so this network is....WOW! Hahha I've never had a problem w my network on w.e carrier I'm on. I live in chicago

Sent from my vzw Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
I was looking into that and it says baseband which is the radio. The hardware that I'm running tho tells me on the boot loader and its tuna. Do you guys have tuna? Also I have the 32GB gnex I know there is 16GB ones too...

Sent from my vzw Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
The product on mine says tuna as wellI have an hw version of 9. Which is why I dont believe version when they are saying the .10 is a software update I think its a hardware revision. Personally but of course they wont say because that would be a lot of phones returned.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dp92180:
I have the .09 baseband should I have .10? I'm running the 403 radio.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
Yes and no. As mentioned in my post .10 was supposed to be released on Dec. 14th.

I know as soon as I got my phone on the 15th there was an update but the update didnt change me to .10. So either there was a bad update which could have been, or they started the update realized it caused issues and pulled the update and haven't re-released it yet. Its been over a month so I find it hard to believe that they have finished updating phones. So how some people have .10 and most have .09 presuming its a software update the only thing that would make since to me is kind of like what happened with playstation3 a few years back. They released one update that caused a whole bunch of ps3 to crash because it didnt check its md5 to make sure it was 100% downloaded. Which means it didnt fully install correctly. So that could have happened with this update since Verizon was having so much problems with LTE that it didn't download properly so the phone marks itself as having the update but in reality it doesn't. Especially if the update that happened was mainly for the radio.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dp92180:
I guess my question would be what the difference is in terms of reception impact. I certainly have 4g issues (i.e. Grabbing and holding 4g consistently). I have absolutely no technical background, so does anyone who does have any insight in differences. Is there any way to force an update based on others setups that are on .10?

Could having a different baseband have any impact on Verizon's end in terms of recognizing or phones?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KneeDragr:
Ive been investigating this also, and so far it seems the only people that are getting a .10 in the baseband are people with the HW version of 10.

If anyone can refute this observation by posting up a HW version of 9 and a .10 baseband then please do.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
As far as I know there is not a way to force the update. Some techs at verizon will tell you to goto the store but on the LTE devices their is no way to force the update.

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Thats the problem there isn't enough people that have revision 10 to know. Because it seems hard to find people with this mythological version 10.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tryceo:
I have hw 10.

I want to be a test bunny
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsk138:
I purchased 2 Gnex on the day of release and both were hardware version 9.

My wife's phone is still completely stock and mine was rooted then updated the base band. It still said version 9 in the baseband.

I some how killed my speaker so they sent me a replacement last week.

The new one has hardware version 10 in baseband before and after updating to the 4.03 baseband.

When placed next to each other the newer hardware has a slightly better dBm reading. Haven't compared download speeds but the I'm getting a better download speed compared to my last Gnex with the older baseband.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
Well, I am trying a different method. I am doing a BBB complaint in the hopes to get some strait answers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I have done those in the past. I'm just curious. What are the grounds of your company going to be? The reason I ask is if we all file a complaint with the same message I think we would get a better response. Heck we could even create a thread for it will a cut and paste canned response.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
I worked in a call center so I took the stance of a customer wanting a strait answer and not an angry customer . I also have a legit issue, and a reseasonable way to resolve the issue.

My issue I get poor reception, compiled with getting mis-information from their reps. Really have lead me to be frustrated. I provide what happened and what I have been told.

I have called customer service and spoke to them several times so if they look at my account they will see it.

Then for my resolution I just want a strait answer and if the baseband version 10 is what is supposed to have been released then I should be able to still swap out my phone without having to use the warranty on my phone. I got my phone at release so its over the 30day no questions asked exchange.

For me this has worked in the past with other companies. I just more want a strait answer. It might work it might not. I figure it never hurts to try.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I apologize for my auto complete errors. As you figured out my previous post was supposed to say complaint not company. That being said, I am very intrigued to see if you get anywhere. I think I will place a complaint of a similar notion. I just need to create a paper trail first and allow them to try to beat around the bush with the .10 hardware revision. I troubleshooted it over the phone once already and went to the store in person looking for answers, but neither one of them had a solution other than waiting for the OTA which should be released in the next few weeks.

Let us know how you make out. I agree, if there is a known issue and hardware had to be replaced then we need to be grandfathered in. This would be grounds for a class-action lawsuit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
Paper trail is always the key. It shows that you have done your home work. And I also think brining up how this is looking more like a hardware fix then a software fix. The reason I think this is also a big thing is basically I am saying I am pretty sure I know you guys are basically pulling an antennegate issue and are trying to find a work around without replacing devices, and that I am trying to play nice here by not making a big deal about it. Since its not a dropped reception it gives them the chance to be like no its a software issue we are fixing it don't worry. Which might fix it to an extend but probably wont fully solve the issue. They are probably working on a software fix that tricks the phone to think it has a better 4g signal so it stays on 4g longer. Which would make sense, since most people say they report a better signal but a slower speed. Which almost indicates a poorer signal quality.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phaze one:
When did you receive yours? I got mine 3 days ago and it's 9. If verizon thinks there isn't going to be a mass exodus about this they've gone mad. Especially thinking it can be kept quiet somehow.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
The question will be wither or not they can get a fix in place before certain things can be proven to the point of causing Verizon/Samsung a legit legal/financial issue. Even if its a facade fix. The technical people will be smart enough to see pass the fake fix, but the average person who bought the phone will be none the wiser. The problem is mis-direction only works for a short period of time in the tech world because we are all so interconnected and like to share information.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] phaze one:
Good point. I'm thinking that we the dev/modder group makes a mass proportion base of owners and like you said the information will spread instantaneously within seconds of realization. They better get their **** straight.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
Yup, and tech industries are also the worst to keep secrets. Which is why on one hand I could believe its a software update because if it was a hardware update you would think something would have been leaked, but at the same time this could be something that has an internal note that could have major consequences if someone leaks certain things out to the public. But like anything it is always just a matter of time before the truth is revealed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanly23:
I'm in the same boat as many of you. Poor data reception. Exchanged the phone the day after I got it...no change. Swapped the sim....no change. After reading this thread I swapped phones again. This one was sent to my house by VZ and its a version .09 as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KneeDragr:
Did you get yours from the store or from Verizon online?

The reason I ask, is I have not heard of people getting a HW 10 version at a store, just as a replacement device in the mail, so its possible they are just selling off the older model at stores until they run out of stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
The stage 2 rep at Samsung told me that the .09 hardware phones will only have .09 baseband and the hardware. 10 will have .10 baseband, all because the system can recognize it properly. Verizon doesn't know about the .10 hardware or baseband. Samsung does depending on who you talk to. :) took me a hr to get this info... Now I'm off to get me a new .10 :D asked a Samsung rep to put a ticket on my account for a replacement phone cause of defect and outdated software lol.

Gnex 4GLTE
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
That is interesting.

Samsung put a ticket on your Verizon account? The ticket tells Verizon to let you pick up a .10 revision in-store?

I'm just asking because I'm unclear how that works.

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Here is some interesting info:

http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/for...i515-10-radio-update-hardware-revision-4.html

http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/for...cdma-lte-radios-galaxy-nexus-6.html#post31956
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
Verizon knows about the .10 hardware but I Think are trying to cover it up so they can sell the phones they have.

I also find it hard to believe that Samsung can put a ticket on your account to get a replacement phone when the phone is coming from verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KneeDragr:
I think you are right, they want to get rid of the stock of the .09s and replace them with .10's only if the buyer reports a reception problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] robstunner:
Anyone have the the zips? Damn FBI and their damn multi upload destruction.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
Yes :)

Being that I was walked through everything like checking sim card to reset phone and just step by step walks from Verizon and Samsung. It was a interesting talk. Not all reps/techs know about .10 I spoke w Verizon and Samsung on a three way!

Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
Correct :)

Reception problem I'm at home with -118 dbm.... Sprint I was at -79dbm.

Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
IF you call Verizon and ask what the baseband version is supposed to be in their system it says .10
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Metallice:
Received a new nexus from verizon to replace my faulty one. This one has .10. Is that supposed to be better? My signal doesn't seem improved... then again I never had a signal problem with he first one... oh well now I can finally start making some themes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pauliewalnutted:
Yeah I'm confused as well. If .10 is no better then what is the fuss about?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
That's exactly it. No one really does know. It is all speculation what .10 revision actually means. Until we truly find out what it encompasses all we can do is ask those who have it to do some loose testing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] luckylui:
Correct. And once I told her I only had .09 she and he was like uhhhhh that's weird. Lol. I think we .09 have bad phones..

Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EyeOfTruth:
I think they are just trying to cover up the fact that Samsung sent them 09 phones, and those were the phones that were having reception issues that posted the delay and instead of sending them back they sold them not figuring people would put the pieces together, and forgetting that this is a dev phone that developers would love and share their specs on. And then forums would post what the .10 "update" fixes because you can find forums and sites that list what the .10 "update" is supposed to fix. So its probably like the issue with talking to Samsung. Its all about who you talk to. There is probably a memo and they are trying to figure out how to best fix the issue without making it out to be a Big issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mac208x:
Got mine yesterday and have .10 in baseband. I also have signal issues. For example at work two of my co workers have Verizon one with a crappy phone other with Droid razr while me on nexus have none or one and no data.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dp92180:
I think there has to be something with the radio and/or the kernel. I have been paying more attention to my signal and will constantly see 4g with a couple of bars and have it switch to 3g. I have tried a few combinations of radios and kernels and have seen some improvement with franco's newest kernel, but still randomly dropping 4g. I also see mine have issues grabbing 4g when I get into a 4g area. I'm in MA and have also seen my friends phone holding full 4g signal while mine shows a couple of bars of 3g. Does anyone know if the kernel can govern any part of the signal?

Just frustrating and if people are seeing improved results with the 10 baseband then I want one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mkarps:
I have .09 and haven't noticed any problems. Far better reception and hand offs than my Droid charge had.

If there is an issue that comes up would I still be able to get help as I purchased used locally?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] robstunner:
I get em.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kichard:
I have .09 and have used these radios as well....personally I see no difference, although I have done zero data speed tests.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsk138:
For what it's worth, here is my phone with the .10 baseband and my wife's stock with .09 baseband side by side with signal strength.

On Left Mine with a newer baseband and running Gummy 6.5 with franco 13

On Right is my wife's completely stock baseband .09

Signal Reading

Signal Reading

Speed Test from .10 baseband

The higher readings are from Houston.

The slower readings are from the Dallas/Forth Worth area.

My house doesn't get the best 4G signal it's seems.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cms5423:
Ok, please reboot into the bootloader and tell us what hardware version the .10 baseband phone says it is? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mac208x:
Installed the leaked radio on the .10 baseband. No difference. Cant wait for the official update so i can finally use my phone at work. All my coworkers who have verizon have full bars and data. I got no data and zero bars.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsk138:
Mine:

HW Version - 10

Hers:

HW Version - 09
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gaming09:
I am trying to see if this is normal or not,

I will have full 4 g service, i wont move my phone, then suddenly it will drop off Ill have no bars no 4g/3g icon ittle take a few mins to load back up then will have 4g again, its frustrating as hell when im streaming media

baseband .10 ek05/ i515.ek02
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mac208x:
This leaked radio file does something for my phone infact. Im on the .10 baseband and at work i wasnt able to pick up 4G just 3g with no data. I went outside to smoke and noticed that i was connected to 4g for few minutes but than switched back to 3g since the signal wasnt strong enough. So im guessing it does a little for the .10 base. Interesting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] k.electron:
I have the .09 version and the phone normally works fine. a few times though, the phone has failed to go back to mobile data from wireless without the airline mode on-off or restart. twice, it just randomly rebooted while trying to switch from wireless to mobile data.

im wondering if that is reason enough to go complain and get a replacement? also does verizon replace phones ordered from wirefly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KneeDragr:
If you are rooted please switch to the ek06/ek04 radio and let us know if it improves. Try to find an area where the issue can be repeated consistently so you will know for sure if there is an improvement.

So far reading the responses it seems to offer most people a small/modest improvement.

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Great post thanks! Based on this I would say there is reasonable evidence that the HW revision offers a small but measurable improvement, but probably not enough to make a difference for people who are having signal issues.

Unfortunately, the CDMA/LTE version seems to shine only in the areas that have the very best reception. Also it appears as though buildings/structures are a real Achilles to LTE signal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] klobkelosh:
Would someone be kind enough to post the new radios, since mega upload is no more? Much appreciated...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TMFGO45:
http://db.tt/E54TQcc3

There ya go

Swyped from my Galaxy Nexus (Codename Android 1.1.4, franco.Kernel #13.1, Hotplug On, Leaked 4.0.3 radios, Inverted Gapps, Natemz Mod w/ Fast Glow, Nova Launcher #12, 1200/350 UV'ed) in Tapatalk Pro!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kimboinatl:
I just read through a good bit of this thread and I'm still not 100% about this, so figured I would ask. I have noticed that my 3G reception sucks, but I'm able to get 4G. I notice this when I switch my LTE off... often it will go from 4G to no data at all (vs. going to 3g like I would expect it to). Has anyone else noticed this, and has flashing the new radio helped out with it? I'm on .09 btw.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
Thanks for the work. A few thoughts:

1) It would be nice to see both phones on the same radio (EK06/EK04)

2) I, personally, don't think they've made a meaningful hardware change here. HW.09 slios its signal readings. HW.09 will NOT show a -100dbm reading. Ever. It will jump from -93 to -103. The actual reading may, in reality, fall anywhere between those two numbers. (Deeper explanation given at Ananad) Perhaps they just removed the siloing/grouping and is giving a true mean signal reading?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TEK112:
I agree with this thought. I would like to see sensorly installed on both phones. It is a great tool for showing signal strength and can actually map trips to show what each phone is getting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsk138:
Consider it done.

I travel during the week so when I get home this week end I'll compare the two.

One thing that I thought was rather interesting was when I was taking pictures of the signal strength I would move the phone around to try get different readings.

The .10 would almost always have a slightly better signal except for a couple times.

By the time I grabbed the camera and took the picture the signal would have already changed to a better reading than the .09 phone so I couldn't ever get a picture of it. This happened every time.

Having had the .09 for several weeks and now the .10 for 2 weeks I can say my experience has been a slightly better signal reading and slightly better download speed. I work out of town and where I live (DFW) the signal strength varies greatly from street to street. The city that work in (Houston) the signal strength is great just about every where I go.