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[LG Revolution] Techluv:
Let me add that I don't believe LG is solely to blame here. Considering that the revo has been defiled by Microsoft Bing (you can thank Verizon for THAT debacle), if LG decided to abandon this phone, its probably because each time a new update comes out from GOOGLE, they would have to do a kernel re-write to add in that $hit called Bing. Not to mention the fact that ultimately its VERIZON that has the final say on updates for this phone.

It just seems easier for LG to avoid all that political fodder.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
I have to disagree, I think it is LG. There are already so many Verizon devices that have been put on the upgrade list. I honestly think that regardless of how much we love our phones, there just simply wasn't enough Revos that sold so LG just kind of ditched us. I think the whole thing boils down to the fact that this phone got launched at the completely wrong time to be considered a serious contender. Along with the Droid Charge and the Thunderbolt.
[LG Revolution] Mr Frog:
Are the charge or thunderbolt getting ICS at all or have all the original 4G phones been left behind.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
As far as I know, the Droid Charge is not getting ICS. Haven't heard anything about the Thunderbolt yet though.
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
I had an original EnV and it was a spectacular phone. I then went to smart phones, HTC phones. I then thought I would give the revolution a try. While I like its looks, I found it to be a handsome phone, as a phone it kind of sucks.

When I make calls I the screen goes black, while normal behavior it is suppose to come back to life when you are done and not just stay black screened until a battery pull.

Slow as phuck data. Pulling up web pages is horrid when it manages to actually complete the load. (granted I do live in a 3G area and Verizon has lied to me twice about when 4G will come to my area)

While the phone is stable at stock, every ROM I have ran is unstable in one aspect or another. I do not blame MT for this, I think Verizon had LG tie in bing so well that removing it makes the phone unstable.

I am writing this phone off as an expensive lesson. I will in the future stick to HTC, motorola, or Nexus pure phones...

I have 2 upgrades on my other lines, maybe a flash back to stock and sell it. Off set the cost of a new phone. I get 50$ off the top thanks to work, and 25% off all my accessories.
[LG Revolution] borborpa:
Well hicks, it's up to you and mt to get is ICS. Let's get on that, k? ;-)
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
I haven't even messed with development yet for this phone lol. Going to try to get started messing with it in a couple weeks though.
[LG Revolution] revo_65:
so its ok to expect cm9 in a couple weeks? ;)
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
You can expect it if you want lol. I don't have a machine capable of building ICS though haha.
[LG Revolution] Haro912:
I'll build it for you
[LG Revolution] gk1984:
I first wanna say I only stumbled on this thread looking to see if my girlfriend's Revo would get the ICS update so forgive me if I don't respond to anyone...

But I wanted to address some of the general Android performance negativity... I've had 3 different Android phones in the past 2 or so years. And I must say the experience is vastly different between each of them, so don't give up hope on the OS - it's the phone's flavor of desert to blame.

I started with a Samsung Moment... at first, loved it. But after a little while the problems started to arise and performance wasn't ideal. I got rid of that thing as soon as I could afford to (went past the return time-frame).

I them ended up with an LG Optimus S which was flawless. Performed much better than I would have expected, especially for being a 600mhz CPU. In fact, it's been smoother than my girlfriend's Revo, which saddens me... But It barely ran Angry Birds.

Now I'm on the HTC Evo 3D and it's incredible. The camera software is a mess, but the rest of the OS is flawless. The stuff our XDA devs have done is even more amazing too. I haven't had a single bug stock or rooted on this phone and it doesn't even hiccup. I will admit to some stability issues on custom roms/kernels since a 2.3.4 update was pushed but narrowed those down to init.d scripts.

Point I wanted to leave... If you have a bad experience with an under-powered nook color that's main selling point (I believe) was to be an e-reader or the LG Revolution which should really be more capable than what i've seen... don't blame Google or the OS at the core. It's whatever LG or B&N decided to do with the hardware and however they butchered the OS (other companies included). I've had bad experiences, I've had good. I'm sure the same is/will also go for WP7 as it is and has been with any computer in existence that has multiple manufacturers for.
[LG Revolution] Haro912:
+1
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
This is the only part of your post that I disagree with. Android is to blame just as much as LG and Verizon. Case in point is CM7. CM7 as everyone knows, is a pure AOSP build of Android. It always, and I mean ALWAYS has bugs. Regardless of the device and regardless of the operator, it's going to have something wrong with it. I think what majorplay was getting at is the fact that Android is trying so hard to BEAT the competition, instead of COMPETE with the compitition, that they are pushing out crap builds of their OS. Don't get me wrong, I'm an Android guy probably for the rest of my life. Just for a second though, look at Windows Phones and iPhones. No where near as many software issues as Android, and instead of correcting the software issues, they just move on to a new OS version and lots of people are still stuck with all these software issues because their phone isn't going to be upgraded to the new software version. It is just very very frustrating to know that devices that are way older, and have way worse specs than us, are going to be upgraded to the newest software version. I think I can speak for quite a lot of people with what I just said.
[LG Revolution] drt054:
Every OS has flaws.. that is why they keep updating.. derrr!!! :) iOS is just absolute effing crap!!!!!!!!! Just wanted to get that out of the way. I love CM7 on every device I have ever used and I am up to 3 now. It depends on the developer who is building for your device. CM7 ran flawless on my Moto D1. CM7 is still in alpha stage but is just about perfect on my HP Touchpad, tried it on a HTC T-Bolt I had before finding Revo and it was great but the in-call volume on the phone overall was crap (yes I still use the "phone" for phone calls :) lol. Android by itself "AOSP" Android Open Source Project is perfect but the carriers and the vendors keep ****ing it up. CyanogenMod should be the standard for any Android device and then you can make it your own. Eff Verizon, AT&T, Sprint or whoever the **** you are going through. The only reason I got a Revo in the first place was because I saw someone was working on CyanogenMod 7 for the Revo.. will never make that mistake ever again. We will most likely never see ICS from LG/VZW but we better get CM9 or I swear to GOD I will sell this ****er or throw it out the window and get a T-Bolt again and suffer with the volume issues. I HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!! :D

OH!! and no comments on complaining because that is what this thread was built for!!!! MTM is a dev GOD and love his work!!!
[LG Revolution] ozymandiaz:
Just lucky, I guess

I must have gotten the couple of revos that were sprinkled with fairy dust at the factory, the only problem I had was probably cause by my own carelessness flashing a rom or the kernel (I don't really remember which it was) that I was not patient enough to recover from bricking, and exchanged for a refurb, which has likewise performed flawlessly for me. It's running stable at 1.5 ghz, the screen turns back on after calls just fine, I don't get random reboots (a problem that I am experiencing on my nexus!!!) and it's just as smooth as butter. I would like a little more volume when I play a movie or music, but I just plug it into some speakers when I need that. Over all, I have found it to be a decent phone that Thecubed and then MTM made even better, and the theming and such that SPCHicks does (as well as his obvious love for the phone, him being on number 3 now!!) as well as the other themers on here keep things fresh.
[LG Revolution] drt054:
lol.. I was drunk posting again but I stand by most of it!! :D
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
It is much like computer OS's in the fact that it is not built for one specific set of hardware. Windows and Linux would be perfect if they had to only develop for 4 or 5 different computer hardware configs **cough apple cough** but they the supports thousands of variants via manufacturer software drivers. How great your phone is also has much to do with how well the hardware manufacturer can integrate their software with AOSP to create their custom version.
[LG Revolution] adrenaline_rush:
You win the Internet for today sir :D
[LG Revolution] drt054:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/1...:+DroidLife+(droid+life)&utm_content=FaceBook

The ****in Thunderbolt is getting ICS and we aren't? I ****ing hate LG
[LG Revolution] capt730:
my wife will be happy with her dinc2
[LG Revolution] markapowell:
Is that LG's fault or Verizon's?
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Both
[LG Revolution] markapowell:
Thank you. I am just saying spread the love. LOL
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
A good kick in the face to me. Originally planned to get the Thunderbolt but decided to get the Revolution. Big mistake now, Unless CM9 is built enough that we can use it for our phones on a regular day basis.
[LG Revolution] droidgenius:
Well honestly. They're running out of updates to give to phones. I mean the majority of Phones are on 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 and all of 3.0 is for tablets only...
[LG Revolution] kcarden:
Wrong! I told both LG and Verizon not to update... just to piss off the community... they agreed and gave me $1 million... my bad folks!
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
Well wouldn't the whole point be to try and get the somewhat new phones that are 6 months-1 year old or older the next operating system?
[LG Revolution] markapowell:
Lol. No. If it's cost effective, they will do it. Popularity+overhead=update.
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
Oh, true didn't think about it that way. Should of put my mind in the mind of a business to realize that.
[LG Revolution] kcarden:
Have no fear though!

we have a great community here at xDA and have Devs all over ICS and CM9

we will see ICS eventually.

Hopefully when i get my new computer ill be able to go back to developing and get it running... Haven't messed with that since froyo though for my old samsung intercept (what a p.o.s.!)

Until then though we have to leave it up to the great minds of the revolution community.
[LG Revolution] droidgenius:
Well yea but all phones that aren't ancient well still get updates. And since the revolution has 4g we well be getting updates for a while. I doubt we well stop at 2.3.4 or even 2.3.5
[LG Revolution] mursepaolo:
this phone can barely handle that mess of a gb update they put out. don't think it'll get ics.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Lol YOU'RE phone might not be able but mine and many others, handle it just fine. You can't group everyone's phones together.
[LG Revolution] kcarden:
My revo is better than yours. : P
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
OH NO IT'S NOT kcarden!!!!!! LOL.
[LG Revolution] mursepaolo:
No. This phone handles GingerVolt after the many mods you guys have done to it. The stock GB was a mess and a ton of people had trouble with it.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Not everyone.
[LG Revolution] kcarden:
These mods you speak of are values in the software that operates the phone that Google so generously left open for the community to modify and continue updates that they knew the manufacturers couldn't keep up with. So are we really modifying or sticking to the game plan?
[LG Revolution] rocknrolla818:
My phone seems to do great and haven't really had any problems with any updates and mods done to it other than terrible battery life
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Are you on Gingervolt or Stock GB? I'm on stock gingerbread, which is what "supposedly" everyone was complaining about and I've had no issues at all.
[LG Revolution] Techluv:
Funny... I'm on stock GB (rooted) and have had really no real problems to speak of. Not sure if it makes a difference but I updated manually through the TOT file. Works great.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Latest news. No surprise here.
[LG Revolution] foobz:
Ask if they plan on releasing source code so we can continue to support their device beyond it's profitable days.
[LG Revolution] patsoxfan:
they will not because they want you to buy a new phone!:mad:
[LG Revolution] Big Cam:
Stupid LG, they're on my **** list. Samsung here I come (in a year)
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
Any phone but an LG Phone sounds better. But, now I know to never recommend my friends or family to ever buy an LG Phone even though it may be good due to lack of support.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I wouldn't get Samsung either. They aren't the best at supporting their devices either. Took the fascinate forever to get updated and it was a pretty high profile phone for its time.
[LG Revolution] patsoxfan:
I would probably end up with a Motorola phone. Seems better quality and better support. Just ask my razor (the flip one)
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I'd recommend either Motorola or HTC. HTC for their rom community and Motorola for the reasons you mentioned. The Motorola community is starting to come around though with several recent ics rom releases.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Going straight Nexus with my upgrade in a couple weeks. Can't go wrong with a Nexus.
[LG Revolution] markapowell:
+1
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
They've released as much of the source as they ever will.
[LG Revolution] markapowell:
I think I have 14 months till my upgrade. So I should be able to get a googrola with jellybean. I think Android is awesome, I think there are too many manufacturers, and then you have Android which is universal, but then each phone needs it's code, then each carrier has their programs. Apple has it good, I just don't like the overall product. I hope googrola can take a nice share of the market. Moto has a great track record of good phones, and obviously Google has Android so it should be a win win when the first line of their phone comes out. But...like most companies they will find some way...
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
If you can get used to the on-screen 3 button setup. Personally I don't care for it and prefer to have the traditional physical 4 button setup.

Many of the nexus roms are being ported over to other devices currently. Unfortunately the revolution isn't one of the devices they are porting them over to.
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
Is googrola like a new manufacturer for phones? and Android is kinda like Windows (not operating system wise) but how there's tons of manufacturers that put in Windows on their systems then put in their own programs.
[LG Revolution] Cal8192:
Google is purchasing Motorola Mobility. It's expected that most Nexus branded phones will be in house models after the acquisition.
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
That's pretty neat I guess. Not sure if it's a bad thing or a good thing. But The whole Google buying Motorola seems pretty neat.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Oh it's a good thing, trust me. For one, it means Google will have more "say so" over their Motorola/Google/Android phones now. Also Google just got a crap ton of patents along with buying Motorola. You can also bet that Motorola and Nexus devices will be the very first ones to get any kind of software updates.
[LG Revolution] markapowell:
Amen! It should be a true Apple killer. Android is afraid of windows as well, and need to create a signature product so that Android can maintain a good market share. Should also mean a completely open source phone, and they will probably work with any carrier that allows for an after market tweaks. Sprint and T mobile should be the first to jump at it because they are a partner in Android.
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
Looks like my next phone will be either Motorola or Htc or a Nexus then. Hopefully it can hurt Apple in a way since I hate Apple.
[LG Revolution] smokedkill:
I don't know why the windows phone gets talked up. I don't know anyone who wants one of those. I'm not saying there aren't people who do want it, but are there enough to consider it a serious contender. Android is the product Microsoft needed as their windows phone, not the blocks.
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Thanks to an email from Verizon about how loyal of a customer I am, I will be getting the Nexus for free in a couple weeks with my upgrade!!!!!

*NOTE*

If you are part of the "Loyalty Program" on Verizon, and have an upgrade that will be available before March 31st. You can get either the Razr, or the Nexus for FREE with your upgrade. They also have the Stratosphere for "buy one get one free."

Just call Verizon's Sales team to see if you're in the Loyalty Program.

It's happened to more than just me by the way:

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/2...:+DroidLife+(droid+life)&utm_content=FaceBook
[LG Revolution] Mr Frog:
Do you need a new two year contract to use this?
[LG Revolution] spc_hicks09:
Yes, it starts a new 2 year contract.
[LG Revolution] markapowell:
Last I heard from convention, windows was going to dominate by the end of the year. I don't know why either,I thought the author was smoking crack so I read it again.
[LG Revolution] ufkal:
I am half way through my 14 days return period for the Galaxy Nexus. It was a good choice to switch. I love my Revolution. I love the small dedicated community here, the excellent theme and rom development here.

However...the Nexus seems to be a much more solid, and well supported phone. Despite it being from Samsung. I've yet to run into any serious problems as of yet.
[LG Revolution] KaneOfMars:
Ha! I've only met one person who bought a windows phone and liked it ... and he's not a very bright individual to begin with :P

Just don't see how windows will dominate lol.
[LG Revolution] Big Cam:
I live in Fargo ND and we have a big Microsoft service center so naturally i have friends who work there and of course they are all Windows fanboys.

My brother in law works there and loves his and I've gotten to play around with it. I'll admit it's a nice phone with many of the apps I have on my android, but it's like iOS when it first came out. It's limited, restricted and just not that exciting. Granted iOS is still that way, but it's gotten slightly better and obviously it has great app support.

The only thing I'm jealous of is XBOX live, I'd love to get achievements for playing games on my phone.
[LG Revolution] S.Meezy:
3 buttons. Lol.
[LG Revolution] revolutionarykid:
Lg Revolution will get ics .

My converasation with verizon wireless

Luis: Hi. My name is Luis. Thank you for visiting our pre-sales chat service. I'll be more than happy to assist you with starting new service, adding new lines, upgrading your device, accessory purchase, and Home Phone Connect. May I help you place your order today?

jake: hi i have the lg revolution and i was wondering when and if it will get ics

Luis: I'll check. One moment.

jake: ok

Luis: No specific date listed, but it is listed to get the update.

jake: OMG IT WILL!

Luis: Yes it will. Just keep checking back every so often.

jake: do you think it will come this month ?

Luis: I'm not certain, but since other phones have received the update, I would only assume it would be within the next 2 months.
[LG Revolution] capt730:
I will believe it when I see it lol.
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
Maybe when 5.0 comes out lol.
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
Verizon Wireless reps... They are FUNNY PEOPLE.... lol

I think they get bored with their job and just start dorkin with people.
[LG Revolution] patsoxfan:
hahahahhahahahahahahahhaah

:confused:
[LG Revolution] phillip_viado:
first quarter of 2012 ended in MARCH!!!!!!
[LG Revolution] jimmyhawk:
This damn phone hasnt even gotten honeycomb or even a ported honeycomb rom. I doubt it will get ics, although i wish it would!
[LG Revolution] indyred99:
Umm honeycomb is a tablet ROM. If you want ICS get a Nexus like I finally did. The Revolution was a good phone and people like MT and playfulgod are what makes the Revo great phone to bad there wasn't any development on the phone otherwise it could have been amazing.

Mt and play keep doing your thing!!!
[LG Revolution] Haxcid:
Ultimately if you want a phone with lots of Dev activity, then get an HTC followed by a Samsung.
[LG Revolution] Caleeeeeeb:
I just wish Verizon will declare it officially that the revo will get ics but like someone already said well get ics after klp gets launched (if that's what they call it)
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
You're better off just terminating your contract and getting a new phone than hoping the Revo will get ICS. Or waiting until your contract is up.
[LG Revolution] patsoxfan:
So I have another replacement on the way. The rep has the same phone and stated that she was waiting for a new update. She was already on v9 so "fingers crossed" maybe it's true.:eek:
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
Probably more bug fixes or more diagnostic things. Also, what were your problems that they're giving you another replacement?
[LG Revolution] patsoxfan:
seems to lose the data connection and the extreme lag
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
Hmm, I get both of those and touch screen seems to never work anymore.
[LG Revolution] Caleeeeeeb:
Yea gonna have to wait till next april :( gonna def make sure phone will either have or be upgradable to the current android didnt know about android when i got my revolution
[LG Revolution] JetBlue:
Look for one with a good developer community or one that is upgradable like the Nexus or Galaxy S3 and you've had pretty much every phone I've had except I had the Krazer instead of the Razor.
[LG Revolution] markapowell:
I have the skyrocket from att its s great phone. We have a couple items from sg3 ported over and they run pretty nice.
[LG Revolution] The Kraken!:
Do we really want ICS on the revo? I'm happy with Broken Out. It's turned this phone into a real performer. I would fear ICS would be sluggish in comparison.
[LG Revolution] brswong:
the answer is yes :) lol
[LG Revolution] The Kraken!:
I have read that JB is a good bit faster than ICS...:D
[LG Revolution] majorpay:
Don't be quick to throw stones....

But I'd wait to see what MS brings to the table within the next quarter or so.

Most people that have had their WP7 devices have been happy with them (they have a high satisfaction rating), but they just haven't caught on. With the introduction of the WP8 + W8 tablets, we may see a shift.

Keyword: "MAY."

Android has been alright, but you have to hack the thing to death to get it perform, as they have always been dogs out of the box. They always are riddled with bugs, and developers are constantly having to stay on their toes to keep the ecosystem afloat.

If WP8 fails, then so be it, but with the introduction of another large player entering the ring (for "realsies" this time), it might be wise to watch which direction the wind blows before committing to two years with another device.

As for Apple, I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a spork, then consider crossing over to the dark side.