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[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
without wifi expect 3 days with the same kind of usage (watch functions, other simple things). With bluetooth on expect 2 days.

This is turned off at night btw.
[Other SmartWatches] aiiro:
I would definitely buy the ASP (even for 4x the current price) if it would:

+ work directly with phone over BT

+ would not need internet connection or would use the internet connection of the phone over BT

Currently it's not really adding ENOUGH VALUE to the device as it is, cos I would have to:

- root the device

- flash a custom rom

- install NMA

- create account with NMA

- always keep wifi on, which eats battery

It's like... too much hassle and complicated to be simple user experience? :)

Well, that's my understanding of the process, please correct me if I am mistaken...
[Other SmartWatches] aleekwen:
Augmented SmartWatch Pro

You are correct. I did try BT tethering (using NC Tether) but the push notifications to NMA did not appear to work. As soon as I connected to wifi, the push notification did immediately start working to NMA. I did confirm that the BT tethering was working OK for other MotoACTV initiated requests.

Other than the battery life (which is a big issue indeed), I am pleasantly surprised that my wifi connection from the MotoACTV to my Galaxy Note was rock solid (not even one disconnect, using Wifi Keep alive app). It does appear to disconnect sometimes when connected to my home wifi though.

I do have the luxury of having other smart watches to use, so (despite the battery limitation) I do find that the MotoACTV is useful with notifications when working out. It is also useful when outdoors in bright sunlight (the Sony is really unusable outdoors in the sun).
[Other SmartWatches] Sjflowerhorn:
HELP!!

I just recieved my MOTOACTV yesterday and love it but i bought it to root it and have a tricked out watch like my tablets and phones have been since 2009 when i recieved my first Android device(Droid Eris). i started doing the normal searches and what have you only to come up with several root kits that do not apply to the systm version my watch came standard with(16 gb version - 4.56.97). Apperently this version can not be rooted or my searches are at least coming back with nothing that would help me accomplish this.

So my first question is, Can the firmware be rolled back or am i stuck?

Second question (if previous answer is yes to the rollback) where can i find the information i would need i can work mhy way around fastboot and adb and all those goodies?

(Edit: so i tried to run the root tool even though my system version was not listed in the options and to my surprise it rolled me back to 4.55.78, i then was able to root the device!!!! so thanks(but no thanks lol) but i am now on my way to flashing a new rom and launcher!!! mad excited. BBL FOOLS!
[Other SmartWatches] jrk190:
Alright, after a TON of research, I've decided to buy a MotoActv. How do I set it up to work with the Marketplace and non-motorola phones?
[Other SmartWatches] stoudamire:
Your statement must be ironic as after a TON of research you would not ask such questions.

The MotoACTV does already communicate with NON-Motorola phones. Just download the respective app here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.notification&hl=de

To be able to use the Playstore, you have to root your MotoACTV. Check out this thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1534073:

You can find ROMs with a functioning Playstore as well as a lot of other informations in the WIKI: http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/home#Apps
[Other SmartWatches] wizdum1:
Insufficient space white installing apps from Google Play

I recently bought the 16gb Motoactv watch and rooted it. Everything has gone great except one thing. It appears all my apps are installing to the internal memory, which is only like 30 megs or something. How do I install apps from the Google Play Market to the sd card of the watch? I have gone through all the settings in Google Play and the watch, but still am unable to find where to redirect them. I searched threads on this and still am unable to find directions. Can someone please help me figure out what I am doing wrong or point me to a thread where this is explained.

I am getting a message "Error downloading "Trials 2". There is insufficient space on the device". I have tons of space on the sd card, just unable to point the market to it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Other SmartWatches] Gadgety:
When rooted - can I get the Motoactv not to show any Moto logos?

I'd like to have the Motoactv but without the Motorola logo showing on any screens. When rooted can I get it to start without showing their logo? Is there a custom rom that does this? Is it even possible?
[Other SmartWatches] wizdum1:
Edit- Can anyone help? The best solution I have found is using an app called app2sd. This allows me to copy an app from the internal memory to the sd card. This sucks because I only have 40 megs free on the internal memory, so any bigger apps I can't install. I tried using adb to install apk's that way, but it states the same thing...insufficient space. What am I doing wrong?

I used Jay4255's EasyModder and installed the ClearDroid MotoACTV Version 1.1.3A rom
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Open up "Manage Applications" from the original android settings. In there you can move apps to the sd card.

A search in this thread should tell you how to get manage applications, I'm not typing that all out right now.
[Other SmartWatches] boccaa:
sorry for this stupid question, but is impossible install rom of sony smartwatch on motoactv? I like this but i like to have all of notification forwarded from bluetooth smartphone connection without thetering. What's your's opinion about?

claudio parma
[Other SmartWatches] aleekwen:
MotoACTV notifications

If I understand your question correctly, the Sony SmartWatch connects via Bluetooth to an Android device - this is currently mandatory. There is a "firmware" on the Sony Watch, but the Sony SmartWatch simply accepts messages from the Android and displays it on the color display (it is effectively a dumb display).

The MotoACTV runs Android and is more powerful than the Sony Watch as a result. So it is not practical.

Note the MotoACTV stills needs a connection to something to get the external notifications from - either Wifi or BT.
[Other SmartWatches] wizdum1:
Thank you very much. This helps address the way to move installed files from the internal to sd memory. Now I can uninstall app2SD, but I am still at a loss on how to install apps directly to the sd card. Some apps that I want to install are bigger than the 40 megs I have free. How are people installing these larger apps like Shadowgun\GTAIII\ect to there Movoactv? I tried installing the apk through fastboot or ADB but it still tries to install to the internal memory.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Check the wiki, there's an adb code for it

Sent using XDA-funded carrier pigeons
[Other SmartWatches] soskey22:
Yes is possible, i changed mine, also i changed the boot animation, i used The app "ROM TOOLBOX PRO"
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Why not, here are some battery stats. Almost 2 hours of music, played gbc for some time, youtube, and some other things I've forgotten. I'll also note it started at a 90% charge as you can see in the graph.
[Other SmartWatches] phateticwaltz:
sorry if this out of topic, i really love MOTOACTV, but the lack of vibration is really breaking my heart :)

so, I was stumble into this device http://dx.com/p/bluetooth-v2-0-inco...-bracelet-black-90-hour-standby-129288?item=1

its basically bluetooth vibrate call alert. can we somehow stripped this down and attached (glued) it to motoactv.

sorry if this stupid question. how do you think?
[Other SmartWatches] Gadgety:
Brilliant!!! Thak you!! Made my day!
[Other SmartWatches] Gadgety:
The MotoACTV definitely needs a vibrating bracelet. This device does present the possibility of making your own bracelet which fits the attatchment system of the Motoactv, as the BT unit is removable. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'd pay double for a similar detachable module which was half has thick and used low energy BT 4.0.

Actually I found the one you posted here for only $12 http://www.ankaka.com/incoming-phon...h-bracelet-for-mobile-phones-blue_p48770.html. I read a review (the only one I could find having actually tested it) alerting to the fact that it only vibrates on incoming calls, not incoming SMS:s or anything else. Seems to be true of most all the vibrating bracelets.

Maybe I'll take my old Plantronics 645 and dismantle it, scavenge the parts and put it in a leather wrist band. Could be small enough.
[Other SmartWatches] phateticwaltz:
how do you think about this one? http://dx.com/p/bluetooth-incoming-call-vibrate-alert-bracelet-black-25723?item=1

could it be small enough? pity no information about the technical specs or even the manufacturer name

i don't have any experience dimantling electronic hardware, so I don't dare to try :)
[Other SmartWatches] Gadgety:
I agree. They both have their advantages. Sony Smartwatch has 2: vibrating alert and smaller size. The Motoactv has everything else. I've looked into combining the Motactv with an external vibration motor, but they only vibrate on incoming calls, not for SMS or any other alert.
[Other SmartWatches] Gadgety:
Dismantling is easy, its reassembling and getting to work again that's hard ;-D

The bracelet you showed is not working that well. Keeps losing the connection in the reviews I've seen. The other one may have the same problem. BTW the other one doesn't need dismantling - it's just popping out the vibrating module and create a device to hold it. Please note, none of these bracelets vibrate for anything else than incoming calls... better than nothing, but limiting.
[Other SmartWatches] hackerse7en:
is there anything to have a better battery usage on custom roms ?

the battery seems to end realy fast
[Other SmartWatches] aiiro:
You got that right :) Anwyay, I have dismantled my old Nokia (2006?) for so many times that I remember to have noticed a tiny (maybe 10mm x 5mm x 5mm) vibration generator hidden deep between plates. I was wondering...

IF we would know the voltage needed for it to spin AND

IF we would know the voltage that earpiece plug gives out when sending signals to the headphones,

THEN we would know if it would be possible to use some small vibration generator with current from an earphone plug (somehow). Cos it always gives a sound when notifying, right?

With "somehow" I mean then we would know if it would be feasible to think in that direction. Otherwise no use designing an add-on :)

Since I know little of those voltages, maybe someone can help out? Otherwise it's a 2-4 hour research in Google and sorry, I don't currently have that time with two small kids.

My 2 cents. I hope :)
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Actually I tried hooking up an electric motor to the speaker terminals of my stereo and it would spin to the beat. I suppose it would be the same idea, although I'd be worried about the output being enough voltage being a headphone jack and the notification sounds don't really use much bass (which would cause the most vibration)
[Other SmartWatches] phateticwaltz:
I don't have any experience in the electrical thing. but just quick browsing I found this

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/348986193/mobile_vibration_motor.html

this mentioned that vibration motor required voltage is around 1.3 volt.

I look other types but mostly is 3 volt.

while for output jack, i found this in some macbook pro forum

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=585886

Output voltage: 1.4 volts (root mean square) (Vrms) (+5.1 dBu)

I don't know if this information help you or not. but looking at this does it seems doable?
[Other SmartWatches] Gadgety:
OK. Interesting concept. I've got a SonyEricsson MBW-150 I took apart. It's got a tiny vibration motor. With connectors and the plastic enclosure it's 12.7x5x3 mm. The battery is 3 volts, but the tiny pcb doesn't state the voltage of the traces. I don't have the MotoACTV yet so I cannot try it out.
[Other SmartWatches] perpetual98:
Ok, here's a random thought that probably isn't worth much, but just popped into my head. My kids got some of those Hex Bug Nanos for their birthday last weekend I they just motor around via vibrations. They left one of them on and the battery died and I didn't open it to replace the battery, but it SEEMS that it's just a single little watch battery.

I think they're like $6 at Walmart, might be worth butchering to see if you would make it work.
[Other SmartWatches] Gadgety:
I got one having seen your posting. Hadn't seen these toys before. It's got a standard 1.5 V AG13/LR44 battery. That vibration engine is huge, specially in terms of diameter, and very powerful. The family cats got really, really stressed out by it as it didn't want to die despite their putting forward their best effort.
[Other SmartWatches] dragonfly1113:
Great app highly recommend for motoactv is call sleep as android measures your sleep patterns from your watch :)
[Other SmartWatches] aiiro:
OK, glad I got some feedback. This proves I'm not completely a nutcase :)

I already started a different project as it seems easier and more plausible.

I ordered these parts from ebay:

15mm Piezo Transducer with Flying Lead (Pack of 2)

FE 10pcs 3.5mm Earphone Ear Jack Plug Stopper

The idea is to build an add-on which makes sound by inserting the modified rubber plug with piezo wires an sticking the piezo unit to the bottom of the wristband plate. BTW, the piezo thingy goes EXACTLY to the hole beneath the Motoactv, the one in the wristband plate. It sticks out max 1mm if the top is level with the wristband plate. I didn't know that when I ordered them cos it states 15mm whereas the hole is actually smaller, so I thought I'd have to rip it apart. But it's just perfect!

Now the only thing is to figure out the wiring as You can't slide the Motoactv in place unless You have longer wires but then these will just hang loosely later when it's in place. And of course, to test first whether it will make sound at all :) Just gotta wait till the plugs arrive...
[Other SmartWatches] aeron16:
Any updates? :)
[Other SmartWatches] dproldan:
Yes, they break after a few weeks :( . I don't know exactly why, and that's the problem. Could be the sweat (but they're sold as water-proof), or some physical stress, also unlikely because they're laying flat against a hard surface.

I'll keep trying and making more tests, but I'm travelling a lot for work lately. Maybe I'll pursue the vibration motor idea too.
[Other SmartWatches] Gadgety:
Way OK! It might shake loose as it vibrates. I'm glad you're trying it, though!
[Other SmartWatches] NorthernAvengeR:
If only this thing had the same usb audio out drivers as newer samsung phones have this thing would almost be perfect as a DAP.
[Other SmartWatches] gmngueko:
for runner looking for another recording software which output csv

Hello,

if you want another software recording your workout and directly exporting to csv ALL data (HR, footpod cadence/speed/distance, GPS speed/distance).

have a look at:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32869431#post32869431

Cheers:laugh
[Other SmartWatches] soundwavves:
Hello, I recently got a Motoactv off of ebay. I have been trying to root it using the motoactv root tool. When I put the device into fastboot to flash the modified boot image it says flashing boot image and then hangs at Waiting for device. My motoactv is version 1.6.6 but i am thinking I need the factory micro usb cable, mine did not come with one so is that the issue or is there a way i can do it without buying a factory cable?
[Other SmartWatches] scl23enn4m3:
Does anyone know what happens if you try to sync the Motoactv with a WP7 or 8 device?
[Other SmartWatches] soskey22:
if with your regular sync cable your computer does not detect your phone, with the factory cable is not going to detect it eather. i will suggest to try other ideas but if you still want to buy a factory cable or adapter, you can buy one here http://shop.teamblackhat.info/
[Other SmartWatches] nbvc:
I'd like to install apps on my motoactv, I start the fastboot mode, the device is shown in my command line when I type: 'fastboot devices', but I don't know how to turn it into a mode, that I can use the 'adb' commands. Can anyone help me?
[Other SmartWatches] carnagecjb:
I've been working my way through this thread... I'm currently about two-thirds done.

However, I actually received my unit (16G, Golf version) this afternoon...

I want to actually finish reading up prior to rooting or flashing anything.

Is there anything that anyone wants or needs pulled from the watch prior to my breaking it?

;)
[Other SmartWatches] JohnnyOnTheSpot:
So I just rooted my 16 GB and have a few questions. I'm on DPRom 8.1 using Zean:

-Is there anyway to fix DPI in Zean without messing up Motoactv?

-Is there a better way to sync SMS with the watch than Motoactv? That's the only reason I'm still keeping it really.

-Why does my Wifi always turn off? Is there a fix, or better yet, is there a way to just tether off of my phone's internet via bluetooth?

-Why does my Motoactv bluetooth connection always turn off now? I can't keep a solid connection with my phone anymore, and like I said the main reason I like the watch is to read my texts.

Thanks everyone!
[Other SmartWatches] th3drow:
1. You can change the DPI but it messes with the motoactv as a whole sadly, don't think you can only change it for the zean homescreen.

2. The only way to sync is probably with the motoactv app, i don't see any other way really, unless there is some tablet app that would work with it.

3. Wifi is designed to turn off after not in use for like a minute, I thought DPRom stopped this but apparently not.

4. Bluetooth shouldn't be turning off, I've never seen that, might be an issue with DPRom

sorry for the not to great answers

---------- Post added at 01:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:43 AM ----------

Is it rooted? you can get the easy modder app here http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/, makes it easy to install apps.

---------- Post added at 01:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:45 AM ----------

shouldn't need it the cable, you should try the anyroot method found in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=23338342&postcount=1
[Other SmartWatches] Prack:
I have DPRom installed and do not have those problems. My wifi is turning off after about 15 minutes however. I thought he changed that as well but who knows for sure.

I will warn any who use adw launcher ex that if you update you will no longer be able to place widgets. The new menu is cut off and I haven't found a way to get to it.
[Other SmartWatches] nbvc:
Thank you for your answer :)

I tried rooting via that program but it wasn't good for me somehow so I did what's in here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1746904

and I don't know how to set the adb connection.

edit:

well and as the previous post says, my wifi turns off after ~15minutes aswell and the widgets things don't work - I can only install apps from the store and that's all.
[Other SmartWatches] Prack:
Widgets work if you use an app like titanium backup to move it to internal off the "sdcard" but as I was saying if you've updated to the new adw launcher you will no longer be able to place them because the option is too large for the screen. I haven't found a way to do it yet. Other launchers or the old ADW launcher will work just fine for widgets.
[Other SmartWatches] dproldan:
Yes I changed the cut off time to 10 minutes from the original 1minute. It's very easy to forget turning it off and the battery would die in hours.

After I finish the latest modifications to the stock system, I will make another version without any of the stock programs and see if I can find a better solution.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
I like the idea of the option of choosing a lean version. Unfortunately for me I like using the text notifications sometimes. Maybe one day I'll figure out exactly what I can and can't delete of the moto stuff without breaking the notifications.
[Other SmartWatches] Mr. Argent:
Might be picking my new Watch up in a few days, depending on when I get my check for working at my local polling place.

(On a side note, we're at Page 286. Does this page run at 6MHz? :p)
[Other SmartWatches] carnagecjb:
You, sir, win the internet.
[Other SmartWatches] imerso:
I wrote a little system service for android which keeps the wifi on -- whenever MotoACTV turns wifi off, it turns the wifi on again.

My original post is here: (cant post links directly): xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33955784&postcount=260

The download is here: imersiva.com/get.php?f=wifion (~150kb)

The little thing has no screen, it just sits in the background activating the wifi for you.

It is free, but as always, use it at your own risk.

Cheers

imerso
[Other SmartWatches] gregoresamsa:
cannot connect to internet

hi

just bought motoactv but have quite a problem with internet connection. i fount on web that for some people worked to disable firewall on windows.

i did that but does not work. i have win7 prof x64 and i tried it even on win home and win prof. with same results. tried it by wifi and cable connection.
[Other SmartWatches] Slava2.0:
Please

Hello. I root 1.7.12. Please tell me there is no way really to go back to the stock 1.7.12? What is the reason, why so? You are my last hope.
[Other SmartWatches] mikleinad:
FYI, this has been addressed in previous posts.
[Other SmartWatches] lucasdead:
Random question

Hi, I just got a motoactv and i been testing it (i think it's awesome), the thing is there's any way to read whatsapp from the watch?

thx in advance.
[Other SmartWatches] mikleinad:
Hey guys, I'm new here and to rooting/coding in general but I wanted to say thanks to everyone for all their hard work. I'm having a blast with the Motoactv.

Also wanted to let everyone know that I've successfuly gotten a free app called BT controller to turn my cellphone (Droid X) into a BT game controller for my Motoact when playing emulators like SuperGNES. I didn't have a Wiimote or Playstation controller handy to use so I figured I'd try to make what I had on hand work. So far I've only played Street Fighter Alpha 2 with this setup but it works well. It will work the other way around as well (Motoactv is the controller, phone is the host) but it's difficult to use such a tiny screen as a touch interface unless you have really really tiny thumbs. Initially I had some issues with the two devices dropping the BT connection between each other but with some fiddling got everything to work properly.

I tried to post links to both the BT controller app in the Play store and the youtube tutorial for how to configure it but this is only my second post so you'll have to just search for them (not hard to find). I also have pics of my friend Joe using this setup -it looks really silly because the controller is about 8 times larger than the screen he's playing on, lol. :D

*Forgot to mention that I'm running DPRom beta 8.1 with Launcher Pro.
[Other SmartWatches] mikleinad:
Spoke too soon. Can't seem to get it to work with the phone as the controller anymore. Does work fine the other way around though for some reason. Can anyone offer some insight into why this might be happening? I had it working once perfectly with the phone as the controller but can't seem to keep the connection between the two devices anymore in that configuration.

UPDATE: moved the BT controller program to the "phone" on my Motoactv from the SDcard. Then rebooted it. It's a stable connection now if I follow this sequence: open BT controller motoactv > open on phone > press 'connect' on phone > select 'Motoactv' > press 'controller' on phone> press 'hide' on motoactv, select whatever launcher you're using to complete the action > navigate to your emulator (make sure bluetooth controller is enabled as input) > select whatever game ROM you want to play > have fun.

*May also help to toggle bluetooth on/off on the motoactv if it doesn't seem to be pairing well.