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[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
There's a "Return to Stock" button in the Root Tool, I think it's on page 53 of this thread, version 1.1.0 is the latest. That will return everything back to unrooted state with the modified boot image still on the device, as we don't have a stock boot image. And before anyone asks, the chances of them finding that are virtually nonexistent.

TEG confirmed just now that you can safely update to the latest version and still flash the modified boot image and root. I will be basing my Rom off of this latest version as soon as I'm able to get it to properly flash. :)

EDIT: Hold off on this for now, just in case. There's a strange occurance when running the root, so I want to confirm this before anyone gets stuck.

EDIT2: I'm rewriting the root tool to actually detect which version your device is running, to give appropriate directions for either one. :)

That's also correct. Jay stated that previously, you can't run both at the same time. It's either USB Mass Storage or ADB, you can't have both at once. To enable one, you must disable the other. ;)
[Other SmartWatches] Itslame:
I dont think your following what I am doing...I am not trying to do both at the same time. I needed ADB access and my laptop wont grant it due to a driver issue. Switch PC and its fine. I'm sure it isnt the Motoactv, it was my PC...it's just annoying cause prior to the recovery install, I could connect up without issue to the machine in question.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Ah, ok! I think I understand. It wasn't anything with the recovery, but I had a similar issue with the drivers on my Vista 64 machine. I had to find the messed up drivers (with the exclamation point) in the device manager, then "update" them, pointing to the correct drivers. It reinstalled them and worked again after that. :) I hope that helps?
[Other SmartWatches] wiaza100:
I tried to do the last Official update without success

got the following message.

Device Serial Number: Unknown

Is this case related to the modified boot image?

What is the update method for devices that have modified boot image؟
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
Unknown serial number error

I got this error too, don't know if it is related to rooting or not, there are lots of complaints over this at the official MA forum, check this:

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/b68cffab06

hope to hear from the experts

thanks

NA
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
If anyone actually *gets* it to update, can you please paste your build.prop for me here from /system? Or pastebin it? Or just post the whole file? Much appreciated. :)
[Other SmartWatches] CEnnis91:
Blur_Version.4.55.97.Motorola-F100.Retail.en.US

Here's what the situation for the updating to Version 5 looks like right now:

> it will most likely NOT break root, considering the root method is based on fastboot, Motorola will have to block fastboot access to block root

> although Motorola is having visible issues updating devices on their forum, it looks like even if they DO figure out the issue, currently rooted users may NOT be able to update from the MotoCast app, because the boot.img is older and modified, it won't know how to patch it, and update correctly

> this being said, if someone NOT rooted were to update to Version 5, and then root, this would be another story, and if done correctly could allow everyone else currently rooted to have Version 5 as well, via an update.zip

PS: Yes, this is the first time I've posted in this forum, but I am not new to Android, if you disagree or do not believe what I am saying, please ask ClearD or TheEndGame7 for confirmation on what I am saying
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
Considering point #2

If I rooted then returned back to stock through the Motoactv root tool, shoudn't I be able to upgrade?

I tried that, it didn't work, I still get the serial unknown error!
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
A small note, also, that the update to 4.55.97 does include a new bootloader, but I do not know whether it's "safe" or not. I suppose it probably would be, as I don't believe they've disabled fastboot, from looking at the new bootloader image.

(There are also ways of applying the OTA partially manually, which I'll look into when I have some free time.)
[Other SmartWatches] Gnu4Lyfe:
You need to replace the PackageInstaller.apk that's on the watch with the one from Cyanogen.

Then fix the permissions
[Other SmartWatches] ts937km:
packageinstaller help

Before I break something... Can I just install the packageinstaller from a downloaded cyan0genmod distribution. Or do I have to root a phone install it and copy from there?
[Other SmartWatches] ts937km:
That did work. One tip, probably obvious. Amazon store is working now!

But the line

adb shell 644 /system/app/PackageInstaller.apk

should be

adb shell chmod 644 /system/app/PackageInstaller.apk
[Other SmartWatches] atmandk:
Does anyone know how to access the original Motoactv apps? Specifically, I'd like the FM Radio app. I can see it in /system/app, but don't know how to start it. I've tried other FM Radio apps, but none seem to work.
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
Are you trying to launch it on the original launcher or on one you installed ? iask because if you try and install the stock fm radio on the launcher you installed it wont have an icon in the app drawer
[Other SmartWatches] dragon_76:
adb push PackageInstaller.apk /system/app/

adb shell chown root.root /system/app/*

adb shell chmod 644 /system/app/*
[Other SmartWatches] dragon_76:
Use AnyCut to create a home screen icon.

com.motorola.gmusic.fmradio.ui.FMLibrary
[Other SmartWatches] MinionOfEckerd:
"Download the missing apks (downloadprovider/ui etc) and resign them and framework apks with the AOSP platform key"

Does anybody have a sense of the ease/difficulty in doing this? I don't know anything about compiling apks so I haven't a clue how to begin this.
[Other SmartWatches] ts937km:
Do you happen to have the shortcut to the Motoactv watch? I'm still digging around. Need a watch for my watch...

Still working on getting google market to work as well.

Amazon Market is working great. BTW Tetris seems to work.
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
Some one else already suggested this but if you kept the stock launcher and the custom one you uploaded you can swap between launchers with an app called "button savior" download it and adb install it and that will give you a back icon menu icon and launcher icon the pro version gives you a small floating icon that you can use on both launchers. So you can still have your notifications and watch :) .. You can also download a simple clock widget and add it to your screen
[Other SmartWatches] MinionOfEckerd:
I used Button Savior for a little bit but I found it to be a bit awkward to use. I decided to change over to "Home Switcher" which allows you to switch launchers as well as switch defaults whenever you need to. Couple this with changing "Start" to "Menu" and "Music" to "Home" and you can easily make your way around the device. :D
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
Nice ...i tweaked alot of the setting in button savior and its perfect for me now .. I use the sence theme andI have the launching on the top left side and all the icons that pop up on th very top and restored my motoactv keymapping to stock :)
[Other SmartWatches] ldrn:
I've been trying a few (sideloaded) keyboards... you can use Add>Shortcut>Settings>Language and Keyboard settings with Zeam to change between them... and my favorite for the watch so far Flit keyboard. I had to sideload it, and I'm not nearly as quick as I am on my phone with... well... anything, but it cuts the typos down a lot -- I switched it to the compact qwerty look and got this:

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/929/20120102125854.jpg

The full one is too tall, unfortunately; you can't see what you are writing unless the status bar is hidden.

I tried the MessagEase keyboard, too, but it was too small -- the resolution on the watch is a bit crazy.
[Other SmartWatches] atmandk:
I'm using the Honeycomb launcher.

Ok, this sounds great, but when I do it, it says "Shortcut successfully created", but then I can't find the shortcut on my desktop. BTW, same thing happens when I create a shortcut using ES File Explorer - it makes the shortcut, but it's nowhere to be found! I don't know if maybe some of my desktop is cut off because of the small screen size, so I'm not seeing the shortcuts, or if they're just not there. I have a feeling that I have several shortcuts that I've created floating around somewhere. Any advice? Have people gotten Anycut to work with the Honeycomb launcher?

EDIT: Okay, I got it. I used the launcher's add shortcut, then selected Anycut instead of going straight through Anycut - worked! Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] Gnu4Lyfe:
My bad. Lack of sleep. Corrected it, thanks for letting me know.
[Other SmartWatches] Gnu4Lyfe:
Install WidgetLocker Lockscreen. ICS slider on the left, Lockscreen Click on the right (under Widgets). Looks great with the Honeycomb launcher. When adding the clock, there's a tiny scrollable section underneath where you can change the Date format, Show battery percentage, and add up to 3 custom lines of text. Can't seem to figure out how to change it from 24hour to 12hour...

Really helps to remap "Start" button to Home, and "Music" to Menu.

Apps I have installed:

DropBox (Easy install apk until Market works)

Firefox (Synced with desktop. Don't have to enter usernames/passwords)

Netflix (Audio is slightly out of sync, but it works)

Pandora (Works really well)

Root Explorer

Terminal Emulator

WidgetLocker

Tried using GScript for scripting common tasks (Reboot, StartADB, StopADB, etc). Can load scripts from SD card, but can't click on the add button.
[Other SmartWatches] MinionOfEckerd:
Thanks for the suggestion about WidgetLocker! Got it set up on my watch. :D

That 24 hour/12 hour setting seems to be a problem in other apps as well. Beautiful Widgets has it set for 24 hour even though the watch is set to 12 hour. Not sure what's causing the problem.
[Other SmartWatches] Gnu4Lyfe:
I believe some of the options for that clock are at the top of the scroll list that's behind it. Going to install a SQLite Editor and see if I can manually edit it.

Update: Found the database, items placed on the lockscreen are stored in the favorites table in launcher.db but it doesn't appear to be as easy as changing a 0 to a 1.
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
If you want to change permissions on apps you can use Es file explorer ..go into menu and click on root settings and make your home folder a " / "

Also if you have a box.com account or dropbox you can attach it to es file explorer for easy .apk download
[Other SmartWatches] Gnu4Lyfe:
You can also use Root Explorer. Long click on an item and scroll down to Permissions.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Bootloader 3.12 *is* still able to be rooted, however the root process changes slightly, and I'm working on a new root tool release that will detect the version on the motoactv and give directions accordingly. That's why I need a build.prop from an upgraded unit. ;)
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
Why? If the same kernel image for root works, adb push su appropriately and you're done.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Because for some reason, the device doesn't reboot the same way during the exploit with this new bootloader as it did on bootloader 3.11. Not sure why, but the white LED doesn't flash this time around, we believe.
[Other SmartWatches] CEnnis91:
ydaraishy: I already have the files needed to do this, once we get recovery completely working, everyone will be able to update cleanly and safetly. I plan on making the bootloader update separate from other updates.
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
Except you don't actually need to run an exploit if adb runs as root?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I'm not quite following what you mean... the exploit remounts the system as r/w, enabling us to push through adb as root. Without that, there is no root, as adb is not root.

If you're speaking from an already rooted perspective, then the new update replaces the bootloader, boot image, and system image, so it will need to be re-rooted after the update, as the unsecure boot image was replaced.

Are either of those what you meant? Your post confused me... lol
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
That boot.img that you flashed first thing when you got the device tells adb to run as root. From there, you simply have to "adb remount" and push the appropriate su binary through adb. No exploits are necessary.

(An exploit "exploits" a software vulnerability to get root. There's no vulnerability that's used here, just plain fastboot and adb.)
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
I wonder if we can obtain the new update just like cmw did to get the exploitable boot.img
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I'm not sure where that idea came from... did wade miss something with his first root post and instructions here? Even the original rooter himself, who hacked the motorola servers to gain access to the older boot image states that the zergrush exploit is required to remount as root... the boot image only allows ADB to be used, as the stock image has no ADB permissions at all, from what I can see. You're saying that zergrush isn't even needed? Did you do it a different way? If there's an easier way, I'm interested lol.

I believe we actually tried that with TEG when we first had the device and I was writing the script, pushing SU binaries and Superuser without the exploit (it was actually accidental, because the exploit failed to run), and root access wasn't attained... Don't know why. We can try it again though? :)

And NORCAL, you're on the right track. ;)
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
It's not necessary. If ro.secure=0 in build.prop in boot.img's ramdisk, then adb will run as root when it starts (and if adb doesn't start by default, you can add that into init.rc as well).

cmw only got the original boot image because one of the OTAs included the entire boot image, this isn't normally done because it's wasteful -- you only distribute binary patches in OTAs. It may be possible to undo the patches to the insecure boot image or make use of the stock recovery image to get something to make the binary patch work again, but that will be fiddly.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Hmmm I see. :) We'll do some testing, then probably exclude the exploit entirely. Lord knows that would make the process MUCH smoother!
[Other SmartWatches] CEnnis91:
Yep already got it. =)
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
What's the OTA URL that has the full boot.img?

I found it, never mind.
[Other SmartWatches] SOGJC:
Where did you found it?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] e493956170:
i am thinking about motoactv. Is it worth the price ?

And i want to ask how long it's battery can last constantly? i don't need official data/. i want your practical experience . thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
Read http://www.cmw.me/?q=node/55 and there's a link to a pastebin with XML and URLs to the incremental OTA images. 4.53.61-4.55.78 has the full boot.img in the zip.
[Other SmartWatches] spartan1987:
For whatever reason I can't get the option to remap my HW keys with the easy modder batch scipt. I already did adb shell stop adb, but the option just doesn't appear. Any thoughts as to why?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
What exactly do you mean, can you post a screenshot? And it requires ADB to be ON to work, not off lol. Did you try a restart of both the device and the PC? :)

Also yda, any idea how to send an auth cookie to the moto update site? I don't have any clue, and I would like that stock boot image for the tool, but can't get to it because of the name/password required to get to the zip. :(
[Other SmartWatches] spartan1987:
Right, but I did and restarted adb to see if there would be a difference. I also went back to stock and rooted, flashed modified boot image, etc. still whenever I select any of the options in the easy modder menu, it only shows the backup options. I've hit all the options 1-5 and still the same this \ backup menu pops up.

===============================================================================

- MotoACTV Easy Modder v1.2 Designed by Jaysen (Jay4255) -

===============================================================================

Main Menu \ Backup

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

01)Backup Boot.img

02)Backup Recovery.img

03)Backup System.img

04)Backup Cache.img

05)Backup Userdata.img

06)Backup All

98)Return to Main Menu

99)Exit

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Option:
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Hmm... I think for me, it was 03 - Mod menu, then 06 - Remap buttons, then I use the 09 button combination... I'm not sure why that shows up. I have the 1.0 version, not the 1.2 version though... you might PM jay and see if there is a bug in the code with the latest version? :)

EDIT: Just had 2nd confirmation, we'll be removing zergrush from the root. Yda was entirely right, wade didn't need superoneclick or zergrush at all. This will have major major bonuses to the next root tool, as it'll now be friendlier to antivirus, and also won't require anyone to unplug anything during the process. :)
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
Glad it was useful.

But I'm out of the game for now, my device is fscked; it keeps rebooting into fastboot. RMA time, and fingers-crossed they'll be kind to an international purchaser...
[Other SmartWatches] spartan1987:
I have tried both 1.0 and 1.2 with the same result. I opened up the batch file in notepad+ and the scripts look right...

I guess I'll try doing it the old fashioned way :)
[Other SmartWatches] MynticeLX:
So at this point, is there any way to update to the newest release if we've already modded?
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
Have you tried to completely turn off the motoactv then run the bat h script?.... Also at the menu selection use "0" before any number you choose as in option 4 do 04
[Other SmartWatches] spartan1987:
Holy crap Im a moron :eek: That was it. Sorry, im so used to the kitchen menu....

color me a retard
[Other SmartWatches] Jay4255:
Menus with less than 10 options need to be preceded by a "0". So Backup would be "01", not"1".
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Have you tried letting it sit for a while, then press just the power button? I think that's how mine got out of that cycle, I had to let it cool down on a heat sink, unplugged from the comp, then pressed power and it turned on from fastboot... Don't know why?

We're working on that :)
[Other SmartWatches] CEnnis91:
Just so everyone knows, (if I have any say and/or control over this) update.zips will not be released until recovery is finished with adb support.
[Other SmartWatches] spartan1987:
Thanks jay... Now I feel even more like a retard.:( lol
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Don't worry about it :D I did the same thing more than once lol.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Still surprised at how much this thing can do thanks to the help of the devs here. I am wishing you guys luck on the custom rom.

Has anyone got live wallpapers working? I installed the live wallpaper picker from a couple different roms (along with the live wallpapers apk of course), but it crashes when I select a wallpaper.

Is anyone aware if there are small Bluetooth speakers for purchase somewhere? Something that uses a cellphone sized speaker or something that I can pack around. I can make one but I'd rather buy it.

Voice input, anyone got that working? Would be a nice alternative to typing on that tiny keyboard.
[Other SmartWatches] Itslame:
Jeannie or Vlingo would be great on this thing... We just need to get Gapps working so we can at least get search functions
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
Left it overnight, still boots straight into fastboot. No dice. I could try reflashing it again when I get home, but it's complaining about having low charge now.
[Other SmartWatches] TheEndGame7:
Let me know when you get home with the device and I'll try walking you through some steps I did to get outta your situation!
[Other SmartWatches] nosit1:
Same boat as you, if you have any issues, let me know.
[Other SmartWatches] SOGJC:
Thanks for your response but i don't really understand how that works. I was trying to open a couple of https url but nothing happen, it just ask me for a username and password, there's a way to just download the zip file a easy way?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] tineprogramming:
If you want to get access to the server try this url ;)

removed sorry

And all the server staff is your ;)
[Other SmartWatches] SOGJC:
Actually I just want the zip file to flash in my device. The link that you post I dont understand how that work. but thanks for your help.
[Other SmartWatches] tineprogramming:
Actually what do you want ? do you wan to update the firmware ? it have one way to do it is using the Motorola Program itself to update.But if you need to flash boot.img to get root.you can use jay script to flash or use my script here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1454685

Thank

Tineprogramming
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
"Failure of Apache bridge: No backend server available" :(

YDA, did you try the 7 second Start + Power kill-switch?
[Other SmartWatches] tineprogramming:
It is just url for login to get access to Motorola server the same way that original guy obtain boot.img from if you want to try download some staff download this firmware after you get accessed by my url.

https://rsdsecure.motorola.com/down....53.61-4.55.78.Motorola-F100.Retail.en.US.zip

Don't use IDM if you have it just normal download

And this is the firmware url the original guy has posted

http://pastie.org/private/p5vow7fkq5eujbaooolp1w

Thank

Tineprogramming
[Other SmartWatches] CEnnis91:
-_- can you please remove that? the more that is used and shown the chances of that username and password being removed and changed increase. those credentials are not for just motoactv releases, so we definitely don't want to lose that.
[Other SmartWatches] tineprogramming:
okay as your wish .Thank for warn me.

Did you get the latest boot.img from new firmware yet ?
[Other SmartWatches] CEnnis91:
yes, indirectly, we have the patch files and the original boot.img
[Other SmartWatches] tineprogramming:
Wish you guy get custom done okay.If i can help something .I want to :D

Thank

Tineprogramming
[Other SmartWatches] CEnnis91:
releasing custom zips without a fully working recovery could cause a lot more issues then solutions, so we're holding off until that's released
[Other SmartWatches] tineprogramming:
Okay .What the custom rom will fix ? Can the sound in-put problem and market problem will be solve too ?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I got logged in and snagged that file before you guys shut down the link, thank you. I'm hoping that firmware is one that contains a boot image that I can put in the root tool, for those that want everything back to stock. That's all I have wanted this whole time lol. :)
[Other SmartWatches] tineprogramming:
Okay you can pm me ,if you want something :p

Thank

Tineprogramming
[Other SmartWatches] CEnnis91:
not sure what the sound input problem is, and I've been looking at the market problem, unsure about that yet; I figure everyone wants a custom rom to flash first, so I'll release one first, and figure out the market after that. this is all quite a pain, considering I don't actually have the device XD
[Other SmartWatches] tineprogramming:
Wish you done it soon :D

Thank

Tineprogramming
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
May I ask which rom you got the gallery.apk from? The CM7 rom I used came with gallery3d.apk, which I've already installed for a different purpose. I also have livewallpaperspicker.apk and livewallpapers.apk installed.
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
I got it from a cm7 rom also.. place all 3 apks in your system/app folder

Sent from my Motoactv using a tiny ass keyboard :)
[Other SmartWatches] Jay4255:
LOL Anytime I have to type, I hook it up to the computer, make a new gscript, unplug it, and run it. I hate typing on this thing.