yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Android Development] CrackDaddy:
Thanks for your reply bedalus, so am I to presume "DIDLE" is included in the kernel then unlike Ezekeel's Deep Idle which is not, so therefore not controllable!? & also I have smartassv2, 200MHz/1200MHz & noop as active scheduler for the compramise between performance & battery, but I read in Harbbs data that conservative saves the most power! :eek: Which active scheduler would you reccomend with "conservative"? Can't usy "Lazy" as it's not included in this kernel!

TIA!
[Nexus S Android Development] xjerlzx:
It should be cfq.
[Nexus S Android Development] CrackDaddy:
If you don't mind me asking, the reason! :rolleyes:
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Cfq is the best match for it! For more explanation, follow the link to my governor/scheduler thread.

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[Nexus S Android Development] CrackDaddy:
Many thanks! ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] WarByte:
I always use minmax. As for the data, I'm only talking from a very personal point of view, I use my phone for games so I have it overclocked 24/7. I checked your data (thanks for such an extensive analysis, just read some of it) and they are 1000 MHz based. I have no idea but could overclocked kernels behave different in your benchmarks? Out of curiosity I just checked Speedy 5 and 7, 7 scores lower than 5, mainly in 2D and 3D when using Antutu scoring an overall of 3564 on a second run, fresh restart, same stock nandroid restore, freshly installed kernel, as opposed to Speedy 5 scoring 3985 in similar conditions. What I said before was based on what I perceive from usage and playing my games, no offense but I don't take benchmarks too seriously, I use them as a general guide though, I could be biased. I used noop - minmax - overclocked @ 1440. With these settings, once in a while when I load a saved game in shadowgun it stays on the loading screen for a while then reboots, same save loads successfully at times as well (Speedy 7), no reboots with Speedy 5. All other games perform great using both.

Edit: Bedalus you have a thread on schedulers and governors as well? How do you do to manage your time so well? That's great!
[Nexus S Android Development] syntax_gosong:
I see... now I think your answer is covered all my curiosity for now :D

What I can summarize for my own understanding is that the newer doesn't mean

the better for some people for a specific purpose usage, right?

I based my assumption of a better battery life which also considering a standard

performance since I'm using the vr that been added on v6 and also on v7 as the

most battery friendly scheduler for me.

But now I understand why do some people still looking for the older version

of Eugene's speedy :)

Thanks a lot WarByte.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Sorry to contradict you, but v(r) performs quite badly. You may be interested in my scheduler/governor thread...

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[Nexus S Android Development] :
I'm not sure. There are some overclocked kernels in the sheet. Have a look and get back to me please.

Do you test with the frequency fixed to maximum? Without this there can be additional variability up or down in the scores.

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[Nexus S Android Development] WarByte:
As for the kernel versions, yeah, there might be things that you prefer in one or another release, just like the voltage drop across the screen. As for governors and schedulers, well, people use their phones for different things. To me (means not everyone might agree) things work like this:

Best: Highest CPU speed at all times with simpler IO since it's a block device. This will cost me a lot of battery. (performance)

Worst: Lowest CPU speed at all times also with simpler IO. Battery will last a lot. (powersave)

Anything in between those limits and how you change among those frequencies, that's governors. So pick what scales better for your needs (multitasking, gaming, etc) while keeping some battery if that is your concern.

If confused among similar options then benchmark.

You're welcome.
[Nexus S Android Development] syntax_gosong:
Thanks bedalus... I just skim reading your thread.

Many quite interesting test and gov+sch pairing for a better battery life.

I'm actually not a very precise guy and does base a choice from a 'feeling' :D

Sounds stupid indeed. I got no kernel's technical knowledge.

But I'll review your test result which who knows I'll get a longer battery life

than what i'm using now.

I got a good battery life, in my opinion, from the cpu scaling gov and io sch

which is Ondemandx and v(r). What I can estimate is 19 hours of battery life.

Some very ordinary (stupid) observation of this choice was based on :

- 3 times calling (about 2.5 - 3 hours)

- Not quite good phone provider signal

- Edge data connection is always on a day long

- 10 - 15 SMS

- 30 minutes kakaotalk & whatsapp chats

- Twitter (15 minutes)

- Browsing (30 minutes)

This is obviously not a statistical data, merely a what-i-saw observation.

I've never got such long battery life before using ondemandx and vr.

Indeed, this is not for a general purpose data. Just a personal opinion.

Thanks bedalus.
[Nexus S Android Development] WarByte:
Well, I think I don't really wanna fix the frequency to the max since what I want to check is how well my frequencies are changed by the governor I selected to match the performance demand, if that ever happened under the stress of the tests. Fixing it would be like running the performance governor as far as I understand.

I know I am getting out of the bounds of your own benchmarking guides, but sounds like our scope is not the same :) I'm just adapting it to test what I think my device is doing and trying to see if there is some other way it can be done more efficiently whether it is a different kernel or a different governor with a different scheduler.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
NS Kernel update should be done in the next week or so for those asking... Busy busy busy atm.. -- Eugene373 (@Eugene373)

Announced just now on twitter.

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[Nexus S Android Development] tchaari:
@bedalus: after benchmarks, now the update tracking addiction :D:D:D

I am joking buddy. Thanks for the info ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] kokwei:
3G Data going off when screen is off

Hi all,

I'm on Codename Android 1.3.0 + Speedy-7 combination. Everytime I turn my screen off I noticed that my data is turned off as well and this only happens while I leave "2G Networks only" unchecked. If I stay on 2G networks, data doesn't go off when screen is off.

I suspected my governor/scheduler settings, so I tried ondemand, lulzactivev2, smartassv2 and between cfq/sio but all are giving the same results (data going off). I also tried setting min frequency to 200mhz and that did not help too.

Anyone facing similar issues here?
[Nexus S Android Development] deetailed:
I believe you should try other combinations as well. 19 hours battery life is not very long, IMO. I recently went on field assignment (to Lombok and to West Java near the Baduy village, btw) with this kernel on CyberGR v7, with smartassv2/noop. I go to some remote areas with bad reception and often turn GPS on to navigate and log the spots we visited. 2G data is always on, I often browse or read ebook while in the car, and with a total of 9-10 hours wake, 4-5 hours screen time I can always get at least 21 hours battery. At home, where the signal is great and there's wifi all the time, that combination give me 2 days.
[Nexus S Android Development] Emama:
did not update for a while,

we don't have a pre-activated version for BLN now?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
You can use nstools to activate it.

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[Nexus S Android Development] Emama:
anyway to enable BLN/ BLD like the old old version without any running background app?

just wanna save a bit of background ram, thanks
[Nexus S Android Development] sean1984:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20872125&postcount=1 this explains how to without app just scroll down a little on page :D
[Nexus S Android Development] Emama:
just 1 more Q,

by changing those setting manually does it have BLN for missed call too? THx so much
[Nexus S Android Development] frenccw:
When using smartassv2 as governor, my i/o scheduler keeps reverting to cfq (i'm trying to get it to noop) Anyone else having the same issue?

I'm using Nstool 1.15 and CybergrGR v8 rom which has this kernel as default
[Nexus S Android Development] kokwei:
With this kind of battery life, did you have gmail account sync turned on all the time?
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Is eugene gone?
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
it's coming
[Nexus S Android Development] deetailed:
2 accounts of gmail, 1 whatsapp. I use the power saver though so it only syncs every 15 minutes.
[Nexus S Android Development] pafaisal:
BLN

What is BLN...? How can we activate through NS Tools...? Can anyone explain or paste a link related to it...?
[Nexus S Android Development] Lazat:
Deleted by request
[Nexus S Android Development] eugene373:
please ask before posting file's~ there's a reason why I post on droid-tech, as my Nexus S came from Droid-tech & all original links should remain there.

I Find it disrespectful to not even ask,

~Eugene
[Nexus S Android Development] Lazat:
you should write that in your topic ;)

Sorry for any inconvenience caused

Fixed my comment above.

Nexus S i9023, CM ICS alpha 18, Glados 2.3 bfs
[Nexus S Android Development] eugene373:
Thank for understanding

~Eugene
[Nexus S Android Development] obsanity:
So this is for NS4G as well? It should probably say in the op such as all NS variants.
[Nexus S Android Development] eugene373:
I don't own the NS4G, I've stated this many of time already & wont support a device I don't own.

If it was supported, it would be in the Nesus S 4G Development as well.
[Nexus S Android Development] obsanity:
Thanks for clearing this up. I just couldn't find anything on this within this thread.
[Nexus S Android Development] ZeppeMan:
Kernel 3.1.6 working great with latest PeterAlfonso's nightly.
[Nexus S Android Development] Serious_Beans:
How battery life on this? Also I have a question about kernels, when using morfics TEUV I'm able to run it stable at 880mhz (110 OC value I believe which makes the 220mhz bus) and the UV, but when I run a stock kernel such as Ezekeels if I set the same values I can't run it, is it because it's more stable when it's compiled with certain values than when it's changed on the fly? I know this isn't the Q&A but it's something that has been bugging me with multiple kernels.
[Nexus S Android Development] sperelli:
hi there,

how getting the phone signal missed calls with BLN free version?

NexusBeam 4.1 + GlaDOS 2.5 = notificate everything except from missed calls...

has anybody on 3.1.6 tried this option?

thx
[Nexus S Android Development] eugene373:
I can't say for sure, however I've been playing with a few things since this post & I had trouble getting past 115% Live OC.. So I made a few Changes & can get up to 120%, even 125% but at which becomes very unstable & even boot loops at 125%.. I'll keep playing with this though...

Anything Past or at 110% becomes unstable for you?

I'm using Ezekeel patches, so if it's not working on his, it wont be working on mine... however I might be making changes to this in the future.

~Eugene
[Nexus S Android Development] sperelli:
to tell the truth someone says lights (blinking or not) are working on missed calls only with the pro ver of the app, but i don't want to buy it.

what about it Eugene?
[Nexus S Android Development] d_phekt:
Use nstools
[Nexus S Android Development] defia:
the blinkinig of bln pro doesn't work in 3.1.6

but in glados 2.5, it works
[Nexus S Android Development] eugene373:
BLN Blinking is now fixed via the kernel & I've confirmed it working..

I'll be posting an update later today, as there is still a few things I'm trying to figure out & find with-in the kernel source..

BLN is on by Default & Blinking by Default

However after it time's out, the led will remain on ( Solid light )

no app needed for this, just hang in there for an update..

please donate to neldar if you enjoy the bln.

~Eugene
[Nexus S Android Development] sperelli:
do you use NSTools without BLN app (free or pro)?

does it light on missed calls?
[Nexus S Android Development] d_phekt:
Use it without. Haven't had an issue yet.
[Nexus S Android Development] sperelli:
BLN on.

Blinking on/off?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
@eugene

Betters IO Scheduler are BFQ and deadline, please remove CFQ. Can you add Lazy governor?

Thank you
[Nexus S Android Development] juliano_q:
BLN and BLD are working well here (with NSTools).
[Nexus S Android Development] :
It stands for Back Light Notification. It means it will turn on the lights behind your capacitive buttons when your screen is off when you get notifications. You can customise the behaviour of this feature in NSTools.
[Nexus S Android Development] ranasrule:
is eugene still developing this kernel or has it been abandoned ?
[Nexus S Android Development] ljordan2:
Also Eugene is probably busy with SGS2 since he got the device.

Sent from my Nexus S from Tapatalk
[Nexus S Android Development] :
That was the 16th Feb

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[Nexus S Android Development] cpaixao:
Maybe he has died.
[Nexus S Android Development] aLNG:
lol wtf dude...get a life
[Nexus S Android Development] :
cpaixao, check your signature:

Is that a typo? Don't you mean lfes's?

I'm kidding of course, although strictly, jokes are meant to be funny: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22733568&postcount=136
[Nexus S Android Development] cpaixao:
Hey, just kidding about Eugene's death. I said because i miss him too around here and he doesnt give us any feedback.

And my signature mean you need to look into yourself if you are looking for a better life!
[Nexus S Android Development] al_madd:
latest Nstool is having problem with problem with smartassv2 gov..
[Nexus S Android Development] aLNG:
can u change parameter setting for smartassv2 like awake_ideal_freq using terminal?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
v1.15 has problems. You can uninstall it and replace with v1.14 available here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1333696
[Nexus S Android Development] S_Dot:
Speedy 8!
[Nexus S Android Development] krfoy:
it is an issue of smartassV2, not NStools. you cannot also use 'echo' in terminal to change them.

I was fixed it.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Thanks for correcting me, and for your work :)

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[Nexus S Android Development] fergie716:
This is more accurate
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Where?
[Nexus S Android Development] S_Dot:
I was was trying to get the ball rolling, lol.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Eugene's had a hectic week, things may be pushed back a little. Don't worry, it's coming!
[Nexus S Android Development] Paparasee:
No wonder, there was no sign of him. One topic I checked twice everyday to see if there was an update.
[Nexus S Android Development] zipredictive:
True.... come on guys he has a Life, a family, a wife, a son who attends a school. And I Think he had a lot of things to do during last weeks... lets wait and enjoy his awesome work the 3.1.10 icup kernel. Im sure he will continue to work for us for FREE (remember this) asap ;):D lets stop it here :)

FULL STOP

Inviato dal mio Nexus S usando Tapatalk
[Nexus S Android Development] sean1984:
https://twitter.com/#!/Eugene373/status/175283308639424512 :D
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Haha, looks like Eugene likes to do it in his sleep. :p
[Nexus S Android Development] DaXmax:
Meh, im sure he is compiling something for us while napping... :rolleyes:

Anyway guys, which governor worked better wif this kernel? Or this question is not supposed to be asked? :o
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I did some testing of Eugene's speedy-6: http://goo.gl/iJXWI

Highest scoring scheduler/governor combo was SmartassV2 and deadline.
[Nexus S Android Development] DaXmax:
Hmm, im gonna try that. What is your freq?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Min 100 Max 1000
[Nexus S Android Development] Nantaphan:
heard about Speed 8 with kernel 3.2

cheer up ^^ !!
[Nexus S Android Development] cool_yking:
when its coming.. i m waiting for it.. !!!

its one of the best kernel i have used !!
[Nexus S Android Development] nexus_junkie:
Wow

@eugene373

Give us the update :)
[Nexus S Android Development] dsellers2:
Patiently waiting.
[Nexus S Android Development] juliano_q:
I am using speedy 7 since it was released and it is great. Speedy 8 with kernel 3.2 would be amazing! :D
[Nexus S Android Development] kokwei:
Can you share with us what are your settings on Speedy 7? How stable is yours? Did it freeze, reboot at all?
[Nexus S Android Development] rosms:
speedy kernels have been really stable for me,usually using deadline/smartassv2 or sio/smartassv2 sadly lately it felt kinda laggy but other then that since speedy 2 it is my kernel of choice mostly because battery life is beyond amazing
[Nexus S Android Development] juliano_q:
After a lot of testing I found that 200/1000 with cfq and smartassv2 is very stable. I pretty much never have a random reboot.
[Nexus S Android Development] stewarta:
It depends whether you were using NSTools 1.15 or 1.14. Me, I have moved to On-demand governor and Noop scheduler and NSTools 1.15. Max 1100 Min 200 and slightly undervolted. Never a reboot and smooth but with great battery life.
[Nexus S Android Development] rosms:
is this thread dead?:(:confused:
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Eugene was in the process of updating, then had some personal stuff to sort out. My prediction is that he's probably now waiting for the next source code to be released, which could happen "WITHIN THE HOUR," as Jack Bauer likes to say. Or it might just turn up at the end of zarking time: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zarquon
[Nexus S Android Development] cpaixao:
Sure. I told that previously but anyone gave me attention. I even know what i doing posting something here still.
[Nexus S Android Development] akshayf:
Any sign of an update??
[Nexus S Android Development] (THE REAL) Neo:
Update for what?

This kernel is perfect! Stop.

Neo on Nexus S with Tapatalk®
[Nexus S Android Development] :
https://twitter.com/#!/Eugene373/status/187593000606642176

Good news I think.
[Nexus S Android Development] Emama:
Anyone knows the scripts to enable BLN for missed call without using NStools
[Nexus S Android Development] VTL:
Eugene said that he is now busy with another project. He will try to release a new version of the kernel after it will deal with the current project. So I think thread is frozen at current moment :)
[Nexus S Android Development] vetvito:
01/26/12
[Nexus S Android Development] bravo04:
this kernel running smooth in my nexus. but the weird thing is my nexus takes a long time charge.

i dont know what exactly happening to my nexus, but when i changed the kernel to another like matrix or air kernel, it charged normally.
[Nexus S Android Development] ackbarthegreat:
are you charging off of USB (ie plugged into the computer) or AC? (plugged into the wall)

Air kernel had forced AC enabled by default in the last release. Dunno about matrix.
[Nexus S Android Development] VTL:
https://twitter.com/#!/Eugene373/status/190897969594236930
[Nexus S Android Development] Articudos:
Welcome back:-)
[Nexus S Android Development] MasterOSX:
As starting from the 20120419 CM9 nightly the wifi module position is changed, I've fixed it in the latest available version.

Now the package is working for both pre and post 20120419 nightlies.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Eugene's kernel now in the UX GRAPH!

You can hover over the bars or lines to see which thread it is, or if you are using a phone, just tap on them.

Kernels: http://goo.gl/i466T
[Nexus S Android Development] apatal:
Can someone please post a link to a mirror where I can download Eugene's kernels?

Thanks in advanced!
[Nexus S Android Development] al_madd:
Just 2 post before you...
[Nexus S Android Development] apatal:
Nope. I'm looking for mirrors to his kernels,such as Speedy-7, not the one posted earlier with the paths changed. I was hoping I can also test the earlier iterations of his kernels. Thanks!
[Nexus S Android Development] Paparasee:
There you go ... from my dropbox http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16401029/3.1.10_ANY-KERNEL-SPEEDY-7.zip
[Nexus S Android Development] _yaz_:
is this kernel 4.0.4 compliant ?
[Nexus S Android Development] DaXmax:
It should work but the kernel source is still built from 4.0.3
[Nexus S Android Development] apatal:
Been using it in a couple of 4.0.4 ROMs without any problems, so I guess, yes. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] _yaz_:
yep. that's why i asked ;)

my guess is also yes but who knows ... gave it a try but no instability w/pete's rom so far

thank u both
[Nexus S Android Development] VTL:
works fine with stock 4.0.4 for me.
[Nexus S Android Development] fear_factory84:
video recording don't work on 4.0.4 roms with this kernel.. any one with the same problems?

Tried pete's rom (9/4/12) and cm9 v6 and v7..
[Nexus S Android Development] VTL:
No problems on stock 4.0.4.
[Nexus S Android Development] cluster2a:
Will there be any Updates for this Kernel?
[Nexus S Android Development] vetvito:
^ 01/26…
[Nexus S Android Development] ZeDestructor:
Strange. Mine got stuck into a bootloop. Oh well, its not like I have much interest in this kernel anymore since its being kept at 3.1. The only "real" reason I was using this kernel was because it was more stable and full-featured than Trinity (Trinity is now back to GB awesomeness) and was being updated to the latest upstream Linux kernel versions (not happening anymore).

Due to the lack of updates both kernel and communications wise, I'm abandoning this kernel. 'Twas nice while it lasted.
[Nexus S Android Development] irizwan:
Miss this on my Gnex ...
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
So I finally got the holster in today and here's a short video I made for it.

Just showing the holster with the phone in it and the d3o case.

Hope it helps you guys decided if you want to order one too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkXPyxUWB4&context=C3db245dADOEgsToPDskKMpJ9bMpvBE8o7t2s_KPaJ

And in case you do want to order one here's the link for that:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050LW42Q/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details

I ordered mine from BluMall.
[HTC Amaze 4G] PhantomWraith:
Yes that is the exact case I have it has been great so far, also if you turn the phone facing the other way the audio jack is mostly uncovered. I think you would still need to cut it out just a little but not near as much.
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
I've actually found that with this holster if I push the phone up a little bit from the bottom I can use the headphone jack.

The phone would be in the holster WITH the cover closed and basically just not touching the bottom of the holster.

But I don't know if the only reason that works is because I have a bulky (d3o) case.

Other cases or just the bare phone might cause the phone to slide down and sit on the bottom anyway.
[HTC Amaze 4G] PhantomWraith:
Also was just on T-mobiles site and I noticed a D3o pouch as well
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
Just checked it out after you mentioned it, looks like that holster has d3o technology built in.

However I don't think it would hold the phone with a case on it.

Looks pretty slim.

And definitely does not cost 4.57 with free shipping lol.
[HTC Amaze 4G] curtisue:
Duracell makes one that's large enough for the amaze with the tmobile case on it. Sorry, don't know the model number. Bought mine at Frys electronics...
[HTC Amaze 4G] hasoon2000:
Is it this one?

http://www.frys.com/product/6878676?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG