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[Kindle Fire General] zopzop25:
Hey guys, I just want you to know, the "Unregister Device" trick works. It's been 24 hours and still no update. My Kindle Fire has been on, wifi enabled, and plugged in (so the battery will always be over 40%) and still nothing.

I mean I lose access to the stuff I bought from the Amazon Market this way, but at least the apps I sideloaded still work and I can browse the net in peace without having to worry about an autoupdate from Amazon.

Just want to thank the forumer who suggested it :p
[Kindle Fire General] jemx:
I also tried to rename OTASilentInstall.apk to OTASilentInstall.apk.bak and i still got the update, but i am still able to dl apps from the android market
[Kindle Fire General] skalogre:
Hmm, well, I can confirm that freezing it with TBP did not prevent the backup. Oh well. At least the market still works.
[Kindle Fire General] troydog:
I got this update and can say nothing worked I read.

I removed OTASilentInstall.apk

change host to add the line to block s3 what ever it was

I had twrp installed and working

When I got the update the kindle did a self restart and becuse of twip gave some errors then ran auto update.

I still have market and all my settings just no root at all. I used root expoler to check that no root.

All aps I removed suck as stock email and imdb facebook are back but I hide them.

shows software 6.2.1 3103920

As long as market works I am happy and it works I just gave it a test and installed some dot to dot thing then removed it.

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To add find odd system info

application storage 714.31 mb of 1.17 gb available Says used for apps I install

internal storage 5.08 gb of 5.37 gb available for books video music

So we get less app storage with this update If I read it right
[Kindle Fire General] ITS ME DAVID:
I have the new update lost root and marketplace doesn't work but all my side loaded apps works and still can download and install third party apps.
[Kindle Fire General] jemx:
I really hope there not trying to limit the amount of apps you can have, hopefully there will be away around that
[Kindle Fire General] ovakin:
I didn't, crap...

And my android market stop working, it open and say: "you must add an account to the device to continue, add one now?" I tap "Yes" and it closes.
[Kindle Fire General] charmainelooi:
Yep .. seeing the same thing as you.. hope we can have a rooting method sooon
[Kindle Fire General] JvictorSS:
God, so happy I installed CM7 one day before the update was out.

So far everything is fine, I'm really enjoying the new rom.

For those who are not sure if they should install it, I would definitely say they should.

There two things I miss from the stock KF rom though, the amazon appstore (If someone could provide me the .apk I would highly appreciate) and the notifications (the one in the stock rom is much more elegant).
[Kindle Fire General] troydog:
That is odd my market works fine wonder why some have quit working?

And they have done something to storage on it. I just download roku remote.

app storage droped then removed a book internal storage went up. It reads like this

App storage apps you've installed on your kindle fire

internal storage

content including newsstand books music docs and videos you stored on your kindle fire

That sucks since I do not download many books why do I need 5.37 gb lol
[Kindle Fire General] charmainelooi:
thought I could use Visionary+ to temproot it to install Market .. does not work either .. crap

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Jemx, I have another KF which is rooted and with a working Market.. how can I protect it ? Thanks
[Kindle Fire General] neilrl79:
If you rename /system/app/com.amazon.dcp.apk to com.amazon.dcp.apk.bak you can sign into your amazon apps individually and still have access to your content without having you fire registered.
[Kindle Fire General] sgood1971:
These are just my random thoughts. If the update comes from "s3.amazonaws.com" which is where the download is available from AND you redirect "s3.amazonaws.com" to localhost in hosts file, it should be completely impossible for the Fire to update.

I saw two people in this thread who said they were blocking with hosts and still received an update. But one of them said the update occured 15 min after he made the change. I am unsure of the time between the changes on the second device.

So maybe, the device had already downloaded the package required to update to 6.2.1 on the device when the change was made and it was simply busy applying it.

I still think that as long as amazonaws.com is the only domain serving the update, and it's blocked, there will be no update.

Sure hope I'm not wrong as I don't want to update and don't have time to try to up to CM7 before the weekend.
[Kindle Fire General] movieaddict:
Well i have silent install renamed to bak and i havent gotten the update yet...

Spoke too soon!! damm u amazon!! got the update
[Kindle Fire General] troydog:
I am thinking the update comes from amazon market. Or after this new update if you to accounts it says attempting to retrieve the device email.

I had removed the email apk that came with when I got it use k9 mail

Thinking more about this I did not reg the kindle to amazon at all. When I got it I even skip the add account stuff.

So as you know only thing you can not do if not reg to amazon is download apps or videos or mp3. But you can download books with out a account.

So could it be getting the update from the kindle store?
[Kindle Fire General] neilrl79:
You can access apps and mp3s

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20534536&postcount=142
[Kindle Fire General] troydog:
Well now that could mean it is pulling update from one of the apps on the device. About like a tv converter box when update is needed they push it or the box auto talks to there servers,

Never watched system logs but what amazon apps start at start up? I got a felling that is how it gets the update vie it auto looking or amazon pushing info to a app on it.
[Kindle Fire General] copycat6116:
Damn, I got the update tonight as well. So I can confirm the following won't block the OTA updates.

(1) ren the filename OTASilentInstall.apk to OTASilentInstall.apk.bak

(2) Have TWRP 2.0 installed.

I didn't mess around the host file so I can't firm it works or not.

If you have TWRP installed, it got wipe out after the OTA update, so even you have a copy of backup 6.20 ROM, you won't be able restore it.

Luckly, Android Market still works at least for now.
[Kindle Fire General] rad3:
That assumes that Amazon won't attempt secondary procedures if the update fails normal methods. If Amazon is going out of their way to close of root, I'd think they would spend a little time researching the methods voiced out here to come up with ways around them.very easy to send from another domain if the first doesn't work.

I believe they are sending updates in waves, which had led some into believing these methods were working. I have the hosts set and the its install renamed, and so far so good for me, but it sounds like its only time...
[Kindle Fire General] LilaLurch:
Yes it´s only time. I have done all of this to prevent from the update. Hosts set, rename, etc. but now i´ve got 6.2.1 and no more root.

So i think the only way to prevent the update is, turn WiFi off.
[Kindle Fire General] jacewt:
thank you, i finally got tired of waiting for it. It was recognized, i clicked update, phone rebooted. It said failed to update, then it booted normally. Then it rebooted by itself almost immediately, this time it installed. It took a long time to boot but then i had it, Yay.
[Kindle Fire General] sunnilocs:
I can't believe this crap! I'm a wanna be newbie nerd and I JUST rooted by Kindle Fire last night! Booooooooooooooo! I trust that one of you veterans will find another work around. Hopefully not too complicated for me to follow. LOL ;/
[Kindle Fire General] charmainelooi:
fingers crossed that it's easy as SuperClick :)
[Kindle Fire General] sxayarath:
I can confirm this as well. I setup the same way and still have Android Market.
[Kindle Fire General] mfisch@mfisch.com:
It's a damned good thing Amazon is closing the "root" hole. I personally thought it was ridiculous my out off the box tablet was totally insecure and I couldn't trust it with my email.

I don't think it should be so easy to root. Does no one else think that was an issue? I've been turning adb off to keep my device safer in case I leave it somewhere.

You'd think a forum full of mostly tech savvy users would understand the security gaff that is shipping a device with a known flaw. Do you all install OS updates regularly?

Yes there's always going too be a way to get at the data unless it's encrypted. I for one am glad it is harder. Now hopefully we'll see an ics port soon so I can really encrypt this thing.

PS, it's fairly easy to force downgrade firmware installs by renaming an update file. Get the software you need then stop worrying about maintaining root. Enjoy the cheap tablet. if you need to tinker all day load an alternative ROM or buy an alternative tablet. This one is for email, Web browsing, reading, and shopping (it's a **** poor media player).

Thanks Amazon. Do love the device.
[Kindle Fire General] lman00:
Did you try it? Because I tried and it just through an error in my face :(. If you tried and were successful could you maybe post a howto?
[Kindle Fire General] chrisportela:
yea but they broke something important for many users even if they are a minority. I don't really care yet add my various apps are still working but I have yet to check Android market.that's the most important thing I needed root to install
[Kindle Fire General] charmainelooi:
Hi,

I have another rooted KF with stock rom which has not been updated. What steps can I take to protect Market? Thanks. I am a newbie.
[Kindle Fire General] ovakin:
dude, what if the update is already in your device since last week when nobody has not the slightest idea? And just waiting for some random time counting variables to be activated :cool:
[Kindle Fire General] S0ci0:
There are two solutions for your problem.

1. Don't leave your device anywhere (obviously)

2. Get an app which you can controll the device from your PC (e.g. Lookout pro), using such an app, will allow you to erase all data from the device while on your pc.

You argument is invalid. Rooting should be easy. Android is open source. If want a hard to root device, get a friggin iPhone / iPad and try to jailbreak it. Android is open source and source should be open.
[Kindle Fire General] xdalaw:
Mine just updated. My Market still works (I downloaded an app I have previously purchased.)

My problem is that my calendar is no longer syncing with Google Calendar, which was the only important/essential benefit I needed through rooting, making changes, and then unrooting before.

For this alone, I hope an rooting fix is found soon.
[Kindle Fire General] jm9843:
A commenter on Gizmodo said the following about the 6.2.1 update:

Can anyone confirm?
[Kindle Fire General] screwyluie:
Ok here's my story. I bought 2 fires at the same time from bestbuy. I rooted one and not the other. On the rooted device I renamed the ota app to .bak as others have. I also added the url redirect in the hosts file, this didn't work though as I could still open a browser and go to the url, I checked and tripple checked, the hosts file is modified properly, but doesn't work for me.

Now both fires have been sitting at home on the same wifi. They are both registered on the same account. The rooted one is 6.2 the non rooted one is 6.2.1

I would say renaming the apk works, but perhaps there's another element, perhaps the market or another app is pulling down the update when its used.... I don't really use any of the amazon apps on the fire so this would make sense.

I also have a theory on why some people's market stops working and why others doesn't, there were 2 market apks in the instructions, one was market.apk the other was vendor.apk, reports are thin, but from what ive seen I have a sneaking suspicion that those of us who used the vendor.apk our markets still work after an update...
[Kindle Fire General] ghost_og:
I used this thread. I just installed anything that was placed in /system/app.

From what I understand from other users, this will install the .apk at /data/app, protecting it from the update's /system wipe. Technically you don't have to install anything in /system/app since it runs at boot, but this will hopefully protect your market.

*Edit*

I can't remember if I installed the googlecalendarsync.apk after placing it in /system/app, but my calendar doesn't seem to be syncing anymore.
[Kindle Fire General] Mama Luigi:
I changed the name of OTASilentInstall.apk to OTASilentInstall.bak and also added an entry for s3.amazonaws.com to my hosts file.

This morning the update automatically installed itself. Everything still works as it did before, but no more root.

I'm guessing it had already downloaded the update before I made those changes, and apparently making those changes won't prevent the OTA from installing itself, at least if it's already been downloaded. After changing the hosts file I have no idea how it would still be able to download.

I'm confident there will be a new rooting method at some point and at least the update doesn't block sideloading like the new Nook Tablet update does.
[Kindle Fire General] movieaddict:
does anyone know how to get the market working with 6.2.1 update? i reinstalled vending.apk and now it fc's??? any help would be great

Anyone know how to get vending apk into system apps without rooting? thats why my market keeps fc

update deleted my vending apk
[Kindle Fire General] eldarerathis:
It was actually always like this, but the display in Settings didn't show them separately. The "amazon content" is your /media (/sdcard) partition and "applications" is your /userdata partition. On a stock system userdata should be 1192 MB and media should be 5380 MB:

Number Start End Size File system Name Flags
1 131kB 262kB 131kB xloader
2 262kB 524kB 262kB bootloader
3 524kB 11.0MB 10.5MB dkernel
4 11.0MB 212MB 201MB ext4 dfs
5 212MB 229MB 16.8MB recovery
6 229MB 296MB 67.1MB ext4 backup
7 296MB 307MB 10.5MB boot
8 307MB 312MB 5243kB ext4 splash
9 312MB 849MB 537MB ext4 system
10 849MB 2041MB 1192MB ext4 userdata
11 2041MB 2309MB 268MB ext4 cache
12 2309MB 7690MB 5380MB fat32 media
[Kindle Fire General] wyhteagle:
Noticed some users renaming their OTAsilentInstaller.apk to .bak. i've found moving in out of the folder and into the SD card has worked wonders on the 9 different devices I've tried it on.

No more updates :)
[Kindle Fire General] alimag69:
Hi,

My market is also still working after update.

I think what happended is simple. To have the market working, you had to install it from /system/app. If the version you installed was the latest then it got wiped by the update zapping everything in /system/app otherwise, it got automatically updated the first time you use the market replacing the one you've installed in /system/app by the new one in /data/app. And that one survived the ota update.

I might be wrong but that might explain the different results that we can see here.

The device interface is way faster than before and no more back button/menu headache. I'm using Go Launcher. The only app I cant use anymore is Quick Boot who needs root to work. Good update IMO

Cheers
[Kindle Fire General] bus_ter:
OK my update story..

Mine has just updated to 6.2.1 (despite freezing and renaming OTASilentInstall.apk some 12 hours ago.)

I can confirm I have lost access to the Market Place (The application Market Opener (process ws.munday.KFMarketIcon) has stopped unexpectedly). When I installed the Market Place I used the latest version, so that's in line with the above theory about not having a copy running from data/app and so losing it.

I can also confirm my Swype keyboard is working. But not only that, it's not force closing like it did before after a reboot! (something to do with losing root?)

Also the Kindle is running a little faster/slicker (why wasn't it like that before?!)

If it wasn't for losing the Market Place I would be happy with having the update and losing root. If only I knew about the fix a few hours earlier!
[Kindle Fire General] awayfromhome:
I updated he hosts file, freeze and change OTASilentUpdate.API to OTASilentUpdate.API.bak yesterday. Today, after work, I went home and noticed that my KF has updated itself to 6.2.1

So the above methods did not work for me.

Edit: forgot to update that my market is still working. I installed one free app successfully before posting this
[Kindle Fire General] SilverPosition:
Freezing With TitaniumBackup Won't Help

I also just got updated despite having used TB last night off the wifi connection. Oh well. C'mon XDA, let's see you guys make some magic. :)
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
I successfully updated to the 6.2.1 Secure Rooted Image this morning.

Last night when it became apparent that NONE of the update prevention methods were working, I turned off WiFi and started to get ready to update to the image that eldarerathis came up with.

This morning, I did the update, and I have a fully rooted 6.2.1 device.

I did have to re-load the market and google framework, but that didn't take long.

Thread with the secure and unsecure rooted 6.2.1 images

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1402440

NOTE.. you have to be on 6.2 rooted to do this. If you already have the 6.2.1 update and are no longer rooted, this will not work. There is no current solution for that yet.
[Kindle Fire General] sgood1971:
I just killed wifi and will be updating to CM7 or the 6.2.1 Rooted tonight.
[Kindle Fire General] bus_ter:
Good work! Just slightly too late for a lot of us
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Yes... that is actually very unfortunate.

It is nice that I still have root, but it certainly is not a good thing for the community. Kind of like having someone with S-Off dev phone and the rest can't get there (I'm looking to get a an HTC Rezound)

Hopefully, there will be a new method to root available soon.
[Kindle Fire General] peachyskin:
mine got updated to 6.2.1 already! despite my attempt to freeze the OTAinstall with Titanium backup.!! so this method clearly did not work!

However good thing is that my market is still working fine
[Kindle Fire General] sstuner:
Even after the KF is updated to 6.2.1, can't you reflash back to 6.2?
[Kindle Fire General] Fireblend:
Hey, would you mind providing the general steps to go from a rooted 6.2 to using that prerooted image? Should I install TWRP and flash one of the .zips provided in the thread using TWRP like I would with CM7? Would that be all?
[Kindle Fire General] Superfrick:
A little louder for those of us in the cheap seats?

I received my Fire as a surprise gift. I like Silk. I like the UI. I like the idea of the cloud and have no problems with the Amazon Appstore (I have it on my phone as well). I want my Amazon VOD, etc.

HOWEVER I want my cake and Edith too. I want google market so I can transfer my paid apps over (as well as things not on the Amazon Market). So I rooted my device with Superoneclick and installed various fire managers, Voodoo OTA, etc. I was never able to get the marketplace app to actually show up in my list, so my workaround was going in and reinstalling the app whenever I wanted to use it and it worked fine. I transferred my paid apps without problems (except the ones that crash on the fire). I was happy.

But now the next time I connect to Wi-Fi I'll be hit with an update that takes away my market and some apps. Would a kind user be nice enough to give a breakdown of the steps we need to do to get 6.2.1 and keep our root access? is there a handy-dandy tutorial I can read?

So far I've figured out:

1) find/install TWRP 2.0?

2) perform backup?

3) install zip file from this thread?:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1402440

Am I on the right track here? Can y'all elaborate?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nagoHaK:
I have found a tricky bug and I can't find any solution for it. I have installed the last version of UltraToxic ROM 8.0 XWKK5 and now sometimes my phone doesn't turn on screen after automatic screen turn off. The phone is continuing to work, for example it accept incoming calls, but it doesn't react on any try to activate the screen - no reactions on "power button" and any taps on the screen or others hardware buttons. The screen will turn on only after reboot by long press on power button.

Before phone was just "rooted".
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rumble6059:
Do you have set cpu installed with a very low figure for your screen off power? I had this problem in an old rom I was running

Swyped by Rumble from my awesome Galaxy S 2!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nagoHaK:
No, I have not setCPU installed. But I just installed CPU tuner and adjust the "screen off power" to min 500MHz, max 800MHz.

I hope this will solve my problem.

Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sstang2006:
This weekend while at the club I noticed the upper section of the screen was bleeding some light while taking a picture with black background.

It can be seen on a screenshot and with a black background. It only appears while on camera mode.

It is a little hard to see but zoom in or even easier open the link in a new window to see it bigger. (left side)

And here there is no bleeding. (link)

Can you guys check if you have the same issue or not?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nessthiss:
I see what you're talking about. I just opened the camera on mine and placed my hand over the lens so it went dark. There's a strip along that edge that's a different shade than the rest of the screen. I don't think it's a defect though, I think it's just the edge border of the view window. If you look to the right side, not all the way to the edge, but to the right of the viewing window and to the left of the preview pane, you can see there's a border there too. It doesn't look it in your screen shot, but on my phone with my hand in front of the lens, the two strips look like they are the same color.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AfzalivE:
It's not "bleeding" if it's not occurring in all apps.

It's probably just something someone overlooked.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sstang2006:
Thanks for your replay, good to know I'm not the only one..

Does yours have the same thing?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nak1017:
Sounds good, but failing that I'd be in to donate if, say, the warranty doesn't get honored after the teardown.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] djfoo000:
is it rude to even suggest that Cyanogen could be able to score some 'donation' units from Sammy for this cause?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AdamOutler:
no, that's a fact. the CyanogenMod team gets donations.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] djfoo000:
^That'll be AWESOME! Dude keep up your great work. I'm looking forward to doing crazy things on the Galaxy Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AdamOutler:
I'm not a member of cyanogen team though. I have no affiliation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ydaraishy:
Huh? It's a Nexus device. Of course it's going to have an unlocked bootloader.

And that is in fact the other point: if it's actually still susceptible to bricks from bootloader failure... then why is it an "unbrickable mod"? If you've got fastboot, you can always recover.

When these docs talk about "booting from USB", they're talking about where to find a bootloader, not a kernel.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hailmary:
im waiting like one hungry piranha..keep it up Adam.:D