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[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
It's been answered about a million times. It's in the wiki, in this thread about a hundred times, and in the first or second posts of about 3 other threads.

The second half, about usb over cwm; cwm doesn't have that ability on our device. It also doesn't have adb access. Utkanos and CEnnis91 tried for days to fix it, but could never get it done. So, we are left with a mostly working recovery.

Please check out the faq in the cleardroid rom thread or the adb commands in the wiki, and youll find your answer. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] joeminati:
Opps.... I see now. I try to be extra cautious at times when working on a new device.

But yeah. I got it. Cool.:good:
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Sorry if I sounded rude, I just prefer to teach rather than give answers, so that others may help as well lol.

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[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I think I might update the root tool tonight. I wanna add a button for "reboot into recovery" and another for "adb off/usb on".

Edit: actually just made a checklist of 5 things I want to do tonight... Including a single button root. :)

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Update: Download MotoACTV Root Tool Version 2.0.0 Here
[Other SmartWatches] Saeviomage:
Sigh, I was hoping that the google play downloads (and syncing etc) could be solved with some command line ip link trickery.

However it seems that the connected flags that we need are plumbed in before you hit the linux-level interface stuff. for instance calling ip link set twilan0 down when wifi is connected will mean that applications still see the wifi connected, but can't send any data over it.
[Other SmartWatches] Saeviomage:
Heh, here's the details on the bug that is causing the whole bluetooth connectivity thing:

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33666

It looks like it shouldn't be too hard a fix: the issue says it's hard to fix because they're worrying about VPNs, but the bluetooth tunnel is actually a real connection, so it should be down to making ConnectivityManager.getActiveNetworkInfo() and variants take heed of the bluetooth DUN interface.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
The play store problem, assuming you're referring to signing in and downloading and not the search issue, can be solved by pushing and permissioning dproldan's contacts fix from the wiki. :) I downloaded tasker from the play store over wifi last night on my actv.

On a related note, has anyone gotten tasker to work on the actv?

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[Other SmartWatches] daddyload2:
Question:

is the MotoACTV capable handling this low frequency audio input as stated above & if this signal is accessible for a custom app?

Or will audio input in general not work (for custom apps)?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
New updated build:Download Root Tool Version 2.0.1 Here

-Fixed flash boot only button + all previous additions in version 2.0.0

Also, since someone ruined pert of the wiki, I just made it so that only wiki forum members can edit it, not the public.
[Other SmartWatches] Saeviomage:
Wifi? Not a problem. I'm after doing it over bluetooth so I can actually have this thing connected 24/7 without needing to have it plugged into power the whole time. Currently anything which uses the standard android way of checking for a net connection will fail if your only connection is a bluetooth DUN connection. This includes most sync programs, downloading from the play store, connecting to steam etc etc. Even google maps brings up a "no connection" message. It's just lucky that it then ignores it and works.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Yeah, that one I'm not sure about. I'd like to know also, as I guess I'd just route wifi through my phone into BT to my watch, if it's doable. I don't have a very large cellular data plan on my phone though, so I'd want some sort of wifi routed option lol.

Also, to the people I just accidentally messed up with the wiki, I fixed its permissions now. You no longer have to be a member to view it, only to edit it. :) Sorry about that.
[Other SmartWatches] Saeviomage:
The bluetooth data gets routed via whatever your phone is connecting with, so you effectively get mobile OR wifi coverage for your watch for the power bill of bluetooth.

Like I said, the issue is that ConnectivityManager.getActiveNetworkInfo() returns null unless you have a mobile or wifi connection. Fix that and the issue goes away. I'll tell you if I make some progress on that front.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I'm trying to get Tasker working on the actv.

Someone earlier said that they did a logcat and it returned the following:

08-29 19:35:38.297 1380 1558 I LiveDataHandler: Partial wake lock released
08-29 19:35:38.423 18498 18498 I ServiceManager: Waiting for service media.camera...
08-29 19:35:39.424 18498 18498 I ServiceManager: Waiting for service media.camera...
08-29 19:35:40.422 18498 18498 I ServiceManager: Waiting for service media.camera...
08-29 19:35:41.426 18498 18498 W Camera : CameraService not published, waiting...
08-29 19:35:41.922 18498 18498 I ServiceManager: Waiting for service media.camera...

So, I downloaded an AOSP camera apk for a 2.3.4 Atrix, resigned it, and installed it. No dice.

Also, maps framework and app is installed. Anyone else have any ideas? The Tasker forum isn't much help.
[Other SmartWatches] kamiel:
I don't know much about programming, but I don't think adding a app will simply fix the problem. Android needs to think there is a camera in the motoactv. You might accomplish this bij changing/adding the functions called by Android when checking for a camera.

Fond this. Maybe this guy can help.

https://code.google.com/p/ics-custo....h?r=1899c9df4b68885df4f351fa9feee603a08ee8ec

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Looks like they are working on it.

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33666

Maybe it's hackable by using xposedframework. See this post on xda

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41777385&postcount=1544
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I also added the camera service libs and set them up properly. Booted, but still no dice. I'll see if I can contact that guy. That's for ICS and we're running GB though.

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[Other SmartWatches] Saeviomage:
It certainly would be. That would also let us fix the google search crash.

Mind you, just rebuilding the classes would work too.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Xposed only works for android 4.0.3 or later, and the actv runs 2.3.4, so it may not work.

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[Other SmartWatches] kamiel:
Damn that's to bad.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Well guys, I tried to fix the issue of tasker running on our actv, but only got as far as I already knew. And the tasker dev wasn't much help, stating only "Sorry, but I'm not willing to put that amount of work in for a niche product with a ROM error."

So apparently, due to motorola's screw up with our camera service, the one app that could help us won't work, and the dev has no interest in making it work.

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[Other SmartWatches] Wot-75:
Hey, sorry to change the subject but apparently there's no dedicated Motoactv forum on XDA.

Can someone please tell me if this internal sticker is indicating water damage or not?
[Other SmartWatches] lownox:
Usually the x's disappear when they get wet, so I say no.
[Other SmartWatches] Wot-75:
Ok thanks.. I guess I'll be sending it in for warranty then... the damn thing won't boot and keeps saying the battery is too low to program.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
You need a Motorola factory cable. They're like $8 on ebay.

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[Other SmartWatches] dproldan:
Warranty after disassembling the device?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Exactly. Your warranty is now void.

Get a factory cable, and you'll be able to program in fastboot again, even with no battery.
[Other SmartWatches] jmcourir:
Hi guys!

Anyone have been able to make it work with Bluetooth tethering on the MOTOACTV? If yes, can you help me please? I'm looking for this since weeks!!!

Have a good day,

JmCourir.
[Other SmartWatches] Saeviomage:
For future reference:

http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/faq

now contains a detailed step by step on how to tether your watch to your phone and get network access.
[Other SmartWatches] Themasteroftrees:
Help with Superuser

I recently rooted my Motoactv. I have it running newest version of Cleardroid and I use the Zeam launcher. I installed LCD density changer, RootDim, and SetCPU, but when I try to use any of them, it says Superuser won't grant them root access. When I go to Superuser and check in preferences, I have it set to allow new requests access. Anyone know what's wrong and how I can grant these apps access?
[Other SmartWatches] mattyv:
Issue is with version of super user I think. Try downloading new one from app store
[Other SmartWatches] Themasteroftrees:
Super user

I downloaded another Super user but it won't work, probably because the other one is still installed. Is it safe to uninstall Superuser? Or will I be messing up my device?

Also, could someone tell me a good website for downloading Google Calendar and Contacts?
[Other SmartWatches] jmcourir:
Hi Themasterofrees,

You need to re-Root your MOTOACTV with the Root Tool of Cleardroid. It is a known issue. They are working on it.

Have a nice day

JmCourir
[Other SmartWatches] Themasteroftrees:
Super user fixed

I somehow managed to get the Super user to work without re-rooting. I was messing around with the LCD density changer when my Motoactv crashed and then went into a continuous reboot. Any ideas of fixing that?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
You need to return to rooted stock with the root tool ASAP. If you wait too long, you will have to buy a factory cable and you won't be able to program in fastboot.

In order to fix your problem, you'd need adb access, which you don't have in a bootloop.

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[Other SmartWatches] Themasteroftrees:
Thank you

Thanks for the advice. Its flashing to root stock right now. Do you know how I can avoid this from happening again?

Also, is there a way to back up all my data? I'm not very experienced with backing stuff up.

Also, I have a bunch of music files on my Motoactv from the previous owner. When I use motocast, they don't show up, but I can still play them in the music player. When I look on the device, there is no "Music" file. Any idea where the music files are being stored?

Finally, is there a way to get google calendar access? Google calendar says its not compatible.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Back up with the root tool, I'll have to answer the rest later. I'm on vacation at the beach and writing this from a restaurant lol.

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[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Okay, back home now.

-To prevent it in the future, don't mess with it that way lol. The best way I've found to make changes, as painful as it is, is to make flashable zips and flash them via cwm rather than using root explorer or anything like that. Make sure permissions are set properly, also.

-To backup your data, use the root tool. It'll make full device image backups.

-About the music, that's... odd. They should have shown up in motocast also. They're most likely in the extsdcard partition somewhere, in the USB storage of the device.

-That calendar one, maybe sideload the apk from another device?
[Other SmartWatches] Themasteroftrees:
Thanks

Thanks for all the help. I'll keep looking for the music files. I hope you don't mind one more question.

So, since I reinstalled Cleardroid, the problem with Superuser is back. It won't allow me to grant root access. I tried setting it to "Prompt" and it does prompt when I open the app, but there isn't a button to press to allow anything. Do you have a fix for this?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
You can't set it to prompt, you just have to set it to allow. The prompt is off-screen when set to prompt, and you can't hit the allow button.

It has no cellular data or phone, so setting it to always allow would not give a malicious app much to work with anyways, I wouldn't think.

And if it doesn't allow, re-root with the "root only" button in the root tool, and that'll fix it. :)
[Other SmartWatches] Themasteroftrees:
.

Sorry, 2 more questions.

If I re-root, do I have to reinstall everything or is it still there?

Also, is it possible to have apps install on sd card instead of internal memory? I seem to be running out of internal memory?

Thanks a million.
[Other SmartWatches] dugwhitney:
Watch band?

This probably isn't the best place to ask this question, but I searched and didn't find a more active forum for this watch. I'm fairly tall with thin wrists and was wondering if anyone is using a different watch band that's not so bulky.

Thanks, and if there's a better place to ask just let me know.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
It'll all still be there. And open zeam and use the app manager settings link and you can move them over from there.

I know what you're going to say, but there's a ladies band that is actually pretty awesome and somewhat manly. Just make sure to get the red and black and not the pink.

No, that wasn't a joke. It actually looks nice and when I get a bit of extra money, I'll be getting one myself. I'm skinny too.

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[Other SmartWatches] dugwhitney:
Thank you. I appreciate the quick response!
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Found a link to one (obviously not the cheapest): http://www.sears.com/motorola-motoactv-women-s-sports-wrist-strap/p-SPM6514706005?prdNo=6&blockNo=6&blockType=G6

And a picture:
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Also, if you guys could, you might want to vote here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1660354&page=891 for our own subforum for the actv in the smartwatches area. That way, we don't have to keep cluttering up this forum.
[Other SmartWatches] x999x:
So I've been a little MIA since I've acquired a Pebble smart watch, but I still lurk here :P

Wore my mActv today and man, I forgot how sweet this thing is. Pebble is cool, but it ain't no motoActv... I mean Fruit Ninja... on my watch... love it!
[Other SmartWatches] Klamman:
Motoactv Isn't Being Detected

Hi, I've been around the forums reading everything, but not really active in it when it comes to participating. I've had my Motoactv for a while, since October, and around March or April, it was having a hard time charging, it would never connect, or if it did, I'd have to keep it in a certain position. Now my Motoactv just simply won't be detected at all. I've used numberous chargers, but they don't work. Has this happened to anyone before? Can you help?
[Other SmartWatches] |SavageD|:
Your charging/usb port has gone bad. I'm afraid that's a hardware issue and cant be fixed unless your still under warranty and could have ur actv replaced....Or you could get someone to resolder/repair the usb port on your motoactv. It's risky, but it's still better than a dead motoactv.
[Other SmartWatches] Klamman:
Using DPRom

If you read my previous post, you'd know that my Motoactv wasn't working. Well I recently decided to use DPRom instead of Cleardroid on my brother's Motoactv, and I don't have enough posts to post on the DPRom forums. The only apps that were installed on the Motoactv are Superuser and Honeycomb launcher, how am I suppose to get apps?! Can someone help?
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Can't you use ClearD's tool to sideload the apps you want?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
It doesn't do that lol. You'll most likely have to flash gapps via clockworkmod.
[Other SmartWatches] dproldan:
DPRom comes with plenty of apps to get uou started, honeycomb launcher is not one of them!

Either I misunderstood you or you have to reinstall DPRom 8.1 again.
[Other SmartWatches] lirona:
Hi to all

Can any one help me please?

I need the hebrew lang. on my rom stock.

Thanks,

Arie.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Hello Arie! I'm not really going to be much help, as I'm not sure how to add a new language to Android.

I did find something about installing hebrew support for the samsung i7500, and it involved using GScript and loading a hebrew.sh script with root access on device boot. Do a google search and I'm sure you'll find the same page I found, and see the tutorial there. :)

I'm not sure if that will help you or not, but it's worth a shot!
[Other SmartWatches] willfck4beer:
For $2... hope this works. Has any progress been made on microphone input? Would be so sick!!! :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Microp...5?pt=US_Computer_Speakers&hash=item20c71eb021

According to moto website looks like this will work for microphone.

Is there:

1) anyway to get audio to bluetooth headset while accepting microphone in from the stub plug?e.g. talk into wrist but audio piped to headset? Groove IP works over bluetooth... they just can't hear me yet.

OR

2) one of these stubs as a speaker (preferably with mic)?

this is the best I could find so far:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CB-Yellow-3...t=US_Audio_Docks_Speakers&hash=item4d08040a79

or

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM...Audio_Docks_Mini_Speakers&hash=item232bd74f4c

Smaller would be better though. and MIC+Speaker would be awesome.

I'm modding my solar wrist charger strap from liveview to work on motoactv - got nimh coincell recharging her successfully so far and solar charging the nimh. Loving this little guy.

Anyway we can get google/moto to release more source code??

What do we need to get bluetooth microphone working? bluetooth mouse? bluetooth keyboard? OTG?

This would be one sick little gadget.

***OH SHxt! Won't this work for full duplex bluetooth audio?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-A2DP-...861?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6f7ae07d

******YES!!! even cheaper and it's got microusb charging instead of some proprietary isht.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-A2DP-...4?pt=US_Car_Speakerphones&hash=item53fbd2fcf8

Wonder if the case is moddable/breakable so instead of the 45 degree angle, it could be bent to be right angle so that the body of this will fit snug against the bottom edge of the motoactv.

Is there any reason this won't work? It's got a microphone built in and

DAMN. I've got it backwards don't I?!? This will receive audio from motoactv and output it to jack and receive audio via it's microphone and rebroadcast that via bluetooth? exactly opposite. Damn. Input?

Damn. yeah. only TRS not TRRS as would be required to output microphone via 3.5mm.

Why did Motorola cripple this thing?!? Hate it when they do that.
[Other SmartWatches] willfck4beer:
ok. I found this guy:

$10 microphone and speaker... runs off of 3.5mm headphone jack... so no external battery, or anything.

http://dx.com/p/mini-mic-speaker-for-iphone-ipod-mp3-mp4-black-3-5mm-plug-135888

just ordered it, hope it works for groove ip. :)
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I think the actv has a built in speaker, it's just disabled from what I understood. I may be wrong though, and there's no hole for it...

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[Other SmartWatches] Prack:
Pretty sure I saw a motoactv teardown and no speaker was included :(
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Whoops, freudian slip. I meant microphone!

Anyways, earlier in this very thread, I found this from Tansoftware:

I think it was on page 19-26, somewhere in that vicinity. So, maybe if there's a socket there, we could hardwire a mic there... now, the next question would be, would it be recognized?

Also, found this:

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/84946/p/8199
[Other SmartWatches] willfck4beer:
Haha nice. I read this very article this morning. Thanks Clear. I think what he means is that the 3.5mm port is a trrs (tip ring ring shield) generally tip is left channel, right Channel, ground, and mic iirc.

The article confirms it in my mind. No internal mic or speaker but the stock headphones have a mic built in.

So the actv can take external mic input and shuttle it to your phone via bluetooth. For calls at least.

Did Atarii and them ever break the 8000hz limit?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
That's the way I understood it, and I'm not sure. Dproldan fried his ACTV, last I'd heard. :(
[Other SmartWatches] willfck4beer:
Dammit that sucks. Wish moto had sent these gratis to you guys who actually dev. Perhaps then they wouldn't be discontinued.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Lol I wish. That'd be awesome. It'd certainly make things smoother. Or at least offer free reflashing service to devs when we break crap beyond repair so that only a jtag reflash would fix it, such as dproldan's case, afaik.

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[Other SmartWatches] VolksWagenGm:
It is not nice to look at too! :(:(:(
[Other SmartWatches] UWRF:
Imagining you make a call with this little nob sticking out of your watch just made grin the cheesiest smile ever. I love XDA hahaha
[Other SmartWatches] kamiel:
Would be awesome to have a speaker, mic and Tasker working on the motoactv.
[Other SmartWatches] willfck4beer:
Haha... not my preferred setup... wish they were integral.

I bought a replacement speakerphone unit from the Samsung Galaxy S3 on ebay for $1 and was hoping to find a way to get it to do half-duplex... possibly with a squeeze button for mic and default to speaker? and just solder the little guy on to a 3.5mm trrs jack. No dice yet.

This knob is the next best solution I can find. I'm planning on opening it up and spatially separating the mic from speaker as much as possible - perhaps mounted on the solar charger wrist strap...

But after I purchased, I realized, in reading an IRC chat log, that Atarii already bought one and some guy back in the proximity of page 26ish iirc had a picture of a red one on his wrist with go-launcher and it didn't look too bad. Can't find anyone reporting good/bad success so far. I'll keep looking but 318 pages is a lot to read through.

When you picture me with the knob on the actv looking like a knob... make sure you picture me on the beach in Bermuda with free wifi making groove ip calls internationally for free and leaving the note2 back in the states. Going lightweight. :)

Plus chicks love geeks right? Solar powered **** tracy android watch 2013.
[Other SmartWatches] dproldan:
We still need to get audio input working for more than just the bluetooth bridge.

Hopefully I'll have some time during August to tinker more with this. Still the best tech watch around!
[Other SmartWatches] willfck4beer:
I wonder if a call recorder app might allow us to intercept audio? You don't think the Microphone in leads are hardwired to bluetooth do you? That seems nonsensical.

Could one do a Bluetooth hsp loopback?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Call recording requires a kernel capable of it, which is most likely not the case with the stock one. But I can't guarantee it.

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