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[Other SmartWatches] dragon_76:
The DPI in build.prop is set to 120 at stock. What did you change it to? I replaced my default sans-serif fonts as well as clocktopia with Roboto condensed and that helped a lot for me.

Cheers!

-M

XDA member since 2007
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
I used the box.com hack to get 50gigs and I signed into box.com through ES file explorer it works pretty good
[Other SmartWatches] Gnu4Lyfe:
Thanks, but I normally remove all the junk apks from system/app with root explorer, just haven't had time yet.
[Other SmartWatches] atmandk:
I'm using the Honeycomb launcher, and everytime I reboot I lose the icons to most of my apps on the desktop - they turn to generic folder icons. If I delete the shortcut and then redo it, it's fine until I reboot again. It seems to only affect the apps that I've moved to the sdcard. Anyone know how I can keep the icons persistent?

Plus, is there anywhere else to post questions about the MOTOACTV besides this thread? This seems to be the most helpful discussion I've found so far (also the IRC channel, which I haven't checked out yet).
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
I have looked for discussions everywhere and this probably the best discussion thread ii found ....

And about your launcher problem... Honeycomb launcher uses up alot of resources and once you move your apps to sd it takes a long time for all the processing to happen ... I think thats why most of us are using zeam launcher in comination with a few widgets

I posted a small pic of me trying to keel it simple :)
[Other SmartWatches] ts937km:
Which clock widget is that? Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] dragon_76:
CMW has made a request for a Motoactv forum since there is root and the bootloader is unlocked. It is wait and see right now. You can also go to IRC on Freenet and join #motoactv. There are people on there from here as well as CMW himself. It is very friendly.

Cheers!

-M

XDA member since 2007
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Can someone provide an apk of the amazon app store? :confused:
[Other SmartWatches] antEris:
Ask and ye shall receive: https://www.box.net/shared/cchteiic49oncb7rt7l5
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
done. even tried turning it on a few more times until it didnt even turn on the backlight.

When I plug it (with the cable and charger it came with) I get no MOTO logo, no battery icon, no white LED.

What I do get is "Bootloader Fastboot mode 03.11" and flashing on and off "Battery Low, Cannot Program"

Holding Volume Up + Volume Down + Start + Power for around 5 seconds just stops the message from flashing and when I let go it appears to turn off.

1-sec. press of power button same thing.

Should I just leave it plugged in and flashing that message, or leave it plugged in with screen off? Either way the LED isn't on.

I really hope this is fixable my girl just gave it to me today for valentine's day and this isn't looking good. I had it rooted, clockwork mod installed, and launcher pro running... I was in fastboot and typed "fastboot reboot-bootloader"
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
That's your problem right there. I take it you can't fastboot reboot either?

Never EVER use fastboot reboot bootloader. This has been the result for several of us, me included. :(
[Other SmartWatches] nosit1:
I left mine on the charger for about three days. After about three minutes the white light would disappear. Did the volume, start, and power trick, and it worked.

Try that.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Just got to a computer and updated the wiki, too...

http://motoactv.wikispaces.com/

Added a big bright red section at the top labeled "Things *NOT* to do with your MotoACTV", to hopefully avoid some of this stuff in the future lol.
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
If I plug it into my computer, the LED comes on and I assume it's charging for several minutes. Then it tries to turn on, but it's still stuck in fastboot, flashes the low battery message, the LED turns off and so does the device.

If I plug it into the wall charger the LED blinks once for ~.2 seconds. fastboot shows, low battery mesg. blinks, and it will just sit there and do that if i leave it, and its getting hot. similar situation as tansoftware was in it seems. I guess I should start packing it for return... maybe i'll wait a day...

If I would have just charged it completely b4 screwing with it I would probably be ok. I feel like a PRIZE assh*le.

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That update should help any other impatient geeks. Unfortunately I followed the original post on cmw.me and there was no battery charging reminder. And I assumed it was charging while plugged in to my computer.. once I got stuck in fastboot I just let it sit there while I came to XDA for salvation... before I found the mention of the "vol keys+start+power" thing, It said low battery cannot program.

I'm gonna leave it off and plugged in to the charger, even though I think it's useless cuz the LED isn't on, and see what happens tomorrow.

I don't want to leave it plugged in flashing the message cuz I don't want it to melt itself or burn my house down...
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
How can I add something to the wiki? I have a few known working apps that aren't up there.
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
Did you leave it with screen on flashing and getting hot for 3 days?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Try placing it with the metal part on a heat sink if you have one around... or something large and metal. Maybe the top of a refrigerator. Something that will wick the heat away from the metal back of the unit.

It's public, you might just have to register there to edit it. :) Or you could just post them here and we could do it for you. Either way is fine lol.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Do'h, I didn't see the register button. :o
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
If it's plugged in and turned off its not getting hot at all. Should I leave it with screen on? I do have a heat sink to use if that's the case.

...oh and the USB hub thing is the same as plugging it in to PC... it charges up with LED on just enough to turn itself on, (in fastboot), flashes the battery mesg. several times, then shuts off. LED too.

If I unplug it, plug it back in, same thing. charges a few minutes, turns itself on, dies.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Within the few seconds after plugging it in, can you flash the boot.img and fastboot -w?
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
LOL! no.

computer doesn't see it, and it is literally a few seconds..
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
Exact same thing mine does. But I have also made my problem worst. As Clear will verify......
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
Just watched your video... (ouch) So, you were able to open it and charge it, but still no go? should I just get the ball rolling on returning it?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Yeahh... bda's is also in pieces... and discharged, and won't charge back...
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
I havnt tried to charge it back up. Watched a video of someone charging a lithium battery unregulated. Massive fire. Scared a little to charge it.
[Other SmartWatches] gt9228a:
Thank you to all!

Finally received my amazing watch. I have rooted and enjoying it so far.

Just wanted to let you know I was able to use both Spotify and Rdio for subscription music. Both are paid subscription services but they work great so far and you can download everything to use offline as well.

Thanks again to everyone!
[Other SmartWatches] soskey22:
Do you have the apk for rdio and spotify? I downloaded one apk file for spotify but did not work well, forgot what version was it
[Other SmartWatches] gt9228a:
For Spotify, I went to:

m.spotify.com on my PC and downloaded the android version manually

Rdio is in the amazon marketplace.

EDIT: I've attached both, I think, to this post.
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
I see from your video that the battery is 3.7v LiPo. Same thing that is in every one of the old phones I have laying around.

As long as the voltage is the same, electronics only draw as much current as they need. So, if I could charge up one of these other 3.7V LiPo batteries in the device they came in (no risk) and connect it to the MOTOACTV just long enough to get out of fastboot from the PC, I should be back in business.

If you could just tell me how you went about opening it, and if there is anything I need to look out for (ripping ribbon cables, etc...), I will try this. Or since you already have yours opened you could try it and let us all know. I understand if you don't want to post here about opening it, PM me. PLEASE.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Right and wrong.

Electronics draw as much current as they need, but it's a different game when charging a battery. Batteries will take as much current as you throw at them, to the point where you start destroying your battery. Batteries have a maximum 'C-rate' which is a fancy way of saying amp hours. Batteries have a lower charging C-rate than discharging c-rate. A typical maximum charging C-rate for a Li-ion battery is 1C, or 1 times the amp hour rating of the battery. Do not go over this or damage can occur.
[Other SmartWatches] ydaraishy:
A suggestion.

Unplug it, keep turning it on and letting it switch off until it doesn't turn on any more (when you press the power switch). Then try and charge it.
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
Tried that yesterday (post #784) but thanks for the suggestion.

@ I have gone ahead and opened it and am currently charging the battery directly. Instead of using a battery from a phone. I'm using the external charger for my EVO battery. I let it go for about 1/2 hour and it had charged enough to connect to pc. I did a fastboot -w, then fastboot reboot. still went back to fastboot, then it died again. gonna let it charge enough to try flashing my system.img

I'm not sure if I should connect it to the computer while its charging cuz I don't know if it will double up the voltage. might hack up a usb extension and cut the power lines...

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OK... may be getting somewhere here...

seems like its stuck on this screen now tho...
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Good! That's the boot image! Try a fastboot -w now!
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
Do you think I should disconnect the charger before I connect the USB?

I tried a cable with the power lines cut but it wouldn't see the connection that way.

I'm thinking because my charger is directly on the battery and the USB power will be on the other side of the charging circuit, it might be ok.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I'd probably disconnect it first, but I'm not really sure... :(
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
OK. Did that and it is charging over usb now on this "M" screen, without my external charger connected, but fastboot and adb commands don't seem to work on this screen.

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I shut it down (power+start), went back to fastboot, flashed my backup system.img, did a fastboot -w, and WE ARE BACK IN BUSINESS!!!!:cool:

...now I just have to put it back together :eek:
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
I'll hit you up when get home from work. Gtalk bdaman80 @ gmail
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
I was waiting for that ;) no prob. I'll pm u my email.

by the way this thing actually has 2 point multitouch!, tested with MTTest.apk

and it runs nesoid pretty smoothly. if i can get a wii remote to connect to it, I'm pretty sure I will have reached UBER-geekdom-nirvana-tron.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Excellent. Bda, you're up! ;)
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
I've gotten it to pair with my wiimote with the 'wiimote controller' app. Works flawlessly, I was able to play Super Mario 3 just as well as back in the day :)

Actually I'm finding this thing is providing a better sound emulation than my xperia play. There's the odd pop and crackle on my Play, but I've been listening for it and I don't seem to hear it on my actv! I've tested nesoid, snesoid, and gbcoid, all with perfect results.
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
Awesome, just came to confirm it works as well. I tried the "bluez IME" app first and that seemed like it was working but then would cause a reboot. switch to "wiimote controller" and boom-bam. If you turn sound off it runs way smoother, actually seems like its running faster than it should, mario is running like he's on speed.

LOLOMGROFL! I might have pee'd myself, just a little...

map select to the trigger and start to the A button... strap it on...
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
I find it runs almost perfect with sound on. Weirdly enough snesoid seems to run smoother than nesoid in the games I tried.. not that nesoid runs bad at all, just seems to have a slight stutter here and there.
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
hehe... like it never happened!

good as new. (well better cuz it's all r00ted 'n stuff)
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
My day off of work has turned busier than work. But I intend on making a how to video documenting cracking open the ACTV and charging it externally. Will post link when done
[Other SmartWatches] d2tw4all:
1C is absolutely NOT 1 amp, 1C is whatever amp hour capacity a given battery has, so if the battery is a 3.7V 240mah battery, 1C is 240 milliamps, and will take approx 1 hour to charge from completely depleted at a rate of 240ma. That being said, it is extremely harmful to a cell to discharge it completely so it generally takes less time to recharge. I'm not sure if these watches have a LVC (Low Voltage Cutoff) but anything with LiPo batteries should as they should never be discharged below 20 percent or so (typically 3V is the cutoff).

You also need to be super careful when charging lipos, you want to ensure you don't exceed 1C if possible, NEVER over 2C unless the battery is capable of charging rates above that (most aren't). I fly electric RC helis and planes, so I have quite a bit of experience with LiPo technology, and a myriad of different chargers for single and multi cell Lipo batteries.

Tom
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
you're right, my bad
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
It Lives.....It Lives....now to just set back up......video is currently cooking.

Promise to upload. Its a little long though
[Other SmartWatches] d2tw4all:
No worries, my concern was if someone were to charge a 250mah lipo battery at 1A, that's actually 4C which could result in a fire ;-) so I figured it was worth setting it straight so nobody tried it!

Tom
[Other SmartWatches] j4s0nc:
CONGRATS man! Never give up ! right? This is a perfect example of why that saying exists. I wonder how many other people are in this situation who haven't come here and admitted it...

to anyone who does:

I have been taking my toys apart since I was able to, but with this... OMG. I was shaking and at one point felt like an anxiety attack may be coming.. Just take a break, go outside, breathe, stretch...

Maybe because it was a valentine's day gift less than 24 hours out of the box, maybe because ITS A FRACKEN COMPUTER WATCH! Literally more powerful than the first few PCs I owned.

Just be careful, and safe. Lithium fires cannot be put out with a regular ABC fire extinguisher, it will just spread it all over the place. A bucket of dirt should do the trick.
[Other SmartWatches] nosit1:
That's good to know, I always care an ABC in each room. Now I need an ABC and a bucket of dirt!
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Haha, yeah, definitely a poor choice of words in my post. I edited it so that it's correct. Definitely don't want people charging at 4C, unless they have one of those new nano tech liPos.
[Other SmartWatches] TheEndGame7:
OK folks! I've been a little busy lately but, I was able to send one of my devices to utkanos (CWM Creator for the MotoActv) in hopes that he can get a fully working recovery for us and more! :D

@utkanos sent you the USPS Confirmation # in your PM on XDA and RootzWiki!

Let me know when you receive it please! Thanks for your hard work once again!
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
In theory, what could happen?
[Other SmartWatches] nosit1:
Fire. Really not good fire.
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
What about "swelling"
[Other SmartWatches] shibbybypass:
I searched the thread and didn't see this mentioned but, multi touch works fine in Angry Birds. I didn't think it had 2 point touch on it. Very cool device. Thanks to everyone for making all of this possible!
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I'm sorry bro, but I giggled because I know the story... continue. I'll keep watch over ebay for you for that item you are looking for.
[Other SmartWatches] d2tw4all:
Meh I've got a bunch of turnigy nano techs and they aren't all that great. Hyperions on the other hand you can safely charge at 5C and they are excellent cells, I usually buy them for anything that I want to last.

Tom

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Ya, a rare kind of fire that fire extinguishers will actually make worse, you have to use dirt or sand to put it out. LiPo cells are really sweet in what they enable us to do, miniaturization wise, but you must respect them.

Tom
[Other SmartWatches] shibbybypass:
I installed maps on my device a few minutes ago and was just messing around on it and got a nice little surprise. Go to directions and click one of the two boxes that pops up and a tiny keyboard shows up! I can't get it to show up in anything else but that gives me a ton of hope for this device. It wasn't that bad to type on either. I can post a video if anyone is interested.

Edit:

I think I know why the keyboard is now showing up for me. It just showed up on the amazon app store search bar. If you install Sixaxis controller it allows you to choose your IME. So you go into that and you can choose the multi touch keyboard instead of Sixaxis. I hope this helps everybody out. I didn't search again to see if this was covered. I didn't see it on the wiki either.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I believe that's the default IME, and it pops up whenever you get a text input box, or it has for me lol. There was a keyboard discussion a while back, with several other good working keyboards too, I can't remember the name of the best one, but I believe it was a short name that started with "F"?
[Other SmartWatches] shibbybypass:
It's so hard to find the info that is out there right now. We really need a section in the forums. Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] Itslame:
Flit keyboard

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Just an update on the calling via wifi:

I was able to set up my old Evo4G and duplicate the issues I am experiencing on the Motoactv (right down to the disconnect timing). The good news: It appears the major issue is due to lag. It wasnt that the other side could not hear me...they just needed to wait 7-15 seconds later, LOL! I can hear them with a 2-3 second lag. Trying to see how I can reduce the lag without ruining call quality.
[Other SmartWatches] nosit1:
You can get directions on Google Maps, but no navigate at least for me.
[Other SmartWatches] mvp:
Hi, you have some news about the possibility of the restoration to stock or update to a newer version of firmware? I'd hate to have equipment at home instead of super worthless brick :-) Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
If you remap one of the buttons to menu. Hold it down and it pops up sometimes. It will not do it using button savior though.
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
There's the problem
[Other SmartWatches] hammersend:
Bricked my ACTV

So I tried to root my watch following the original cmw instructions to the letter with the one exception of having the 4.55.78 firmware as I don't know how to get that on it due to Motorola having moved to newer software and the 4.55.78 not being available for download. Result? A brick. I'm in the dreaded dead battery stuck on M boot with no animation. Another ACTV is almost here. Any suggestions?

Edit: I have a new one (BB just up the street) and I'm sweating bullets. This one is on 4.53.50. Should I use the MotoACTV root tool and just go for broke?

Edit2: Hear that? It's the sound of sweet sweet success. Disclaimer: I was able to update to the 4.55.78 firmware and with that, everything went without a hitch. Me = stoked.
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
The only advice I feel able to give no matter what path you decide to choose. Charge to 100% first. Do not do anything until compleatly charged.....
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Nooo doubt. I'm waiting on utkanos to get his unit from TEG, and when he gets recovery working 100%, we should be able to start Rom cooking for this beast. :)
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Ahh, I just seen them online, haven't used the nano techs yet. We just fly combat with foamies, so the cheapo turnigy's work for us

That's just the default keyboard. Surprisingly works OK. I've installed the ics keyboard, which looks nicer and has the proper numeric pad on number entry.
[Other SmartWatches] soskey22:
you need to have the navigation app installed, and have your gps turned on, also you should install a extended settings app to manage better your settings.
[Other SmartWatches] basschica:
Thanks! I FINALLY got around to picking up a MotoActv. I was kind of holding out to see where things are going with the Basis B1 Band (fitness tracker with biometric feedback stuff) and also because I wanted to see where Motorola's support was going on it etc. Anyway, I went for it yesterday and picked one up. I've got it rooted with a few things installed (Amazon app, Boat mini browser, AngryBirds, app2sd, and ES File explorer so far). I've been having not so much luck with the MyTracks. I found a few apks and none have been cooperating. Which way did you use to load it?

Thanks again!
[Other SmartWatches] TheEndGame7:
I have a MotoActv 8GB for sale if anyone is interested or know anyone looking to buy! It's my last one available!

Sorry I had to let it be known!
[Other SmartWatches] awhawkeye:
How much you looking for?
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
Interested. How much?
[Other SmartWatches] galatians51:
Just picked up a unit from some guy on craigslist for $150. Unfortunately it was already running the newest firmware, I believe 4.55.97 if memory serves me correctly. Is it possible to root this bad boy still, or am I out of luck? I really want to try and download my CoPilot app for some offline turn by turn navigation on my freaking WATCH!
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
Sure it isnt 4.55.78? One page back user just got one yesterday and rooted with 4.55.78
[Other SmartWatches] hammersend:
Hey, I don't know about 4.55.97 but I can tell you this. I bricked an actv two days ago trying to root it with 4.53.50. I took it back and got another one, upgraded that one to 4.55.78 and everything went without a hitch. The only difference was the firmware version. I would strongly suggest either you wait and hunt for a verified root for your firmware or somebody that really knows what they are doing verify that root will work on yours. Seriously. These things are extremely touchy.

Another option involves you having about 250 dollars in your pocket and a slightly flawed ethical compass. I'm sure you can connect the dots.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Make sure it has a 100% charge, and it should work, yes.
[Other SmartWatches] Itslame:
When it comes to cheating a big box retailer, ethics don't apply.
[Other SmartWatches] gt9228a:
I've remapped the buttons using the scripts. However I am trying to use the motorola Workout apps - It says press the start button to start the workout. Anyway to do that without changing the mappings?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
BDA had this same problem. Try using button savior for the home button and leaving your start button as start.