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[Kindle Fire General] neilrl79:
Yes not being registered makes a difference, mine is not registered and I had to download 6.2 and update it manually.
[Kindle Fire General] aerospacecase:
I got the 6.2.1 update before I put TWRP in the Kindle. I also still have Android Market installed but it hangs when it asks me to add a Google account. Is this linked to the removal of root priviledges? Message is "Can't establish a reliable data connection to the server."
[Kindle Fire General] Vashypooh:
It is, its something that you can just download and click run and get an ID and password you share with me, its a one time use so I can't ever go back in etc. No port forwarding nothing. Just straight simple.
[Kindle Fire General] JackpotClavin:
Can somebody adb shell and see if the command "idme bootmode 0x4002" gets you into fastboot?
[Kindle Fire General] Vashypooh:
You can do that command without root.

They will have to reboot the device by hand though, you cant do a reboot without root for some reason.
[Kindle Fire General] JackpotClavin:
Well that's a downer. I thought I was able to idme without root but I suppose I was wrong :/
[Kindle Fire General] Rebel_305:
That is very good to know, since I keep the wifi on the kindle on all the time....
[Kindle Fire General] borborpa:
Did anyone that got the update have the OTA Rootkeeper installed? Would this bring back root?
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
That won't prevent losing root.
[Kindle Fire General] Xdpker06:
So I've been on wifi all day using my fire and for some reason I'm still on 6.2. I am registered.
[Kindle Fire General] PurpleSh4rk:
I did. The app hasn't worked on the KF since ive had it. Ive had it for two updates and it never worked for me.
[Kindle Fire General] BigFuzzyArchon:
noticed that wallpapers now stick even after its put to sleep! love that.
[Kindle Fire General] featurecreature:
Ordered my Kindle Fire Sunday, it's coming later today (12/20)

Is there anyway I can avoid this update? Not turn on Wifi when it asks and install CM7?
[Kindle Fire General] MDG420:
@featurecreature make sure you don't connect it to wifi before you root - after root either freeze, rename or delete OTASilentInstall.apk
[Kindle Fire General] featurecreature:
Thanks a bunch!
[Kindle Fire General] MDG420:
No problem :) glad to help
[Kindle Fire General] peachyskin:
thank you for the warning

I just froze the OTASilentInstall using Titanium Backup

Hope for the new root again.. I know you guys can do it !:D
[Kindle Fire General] rad3:
Is this method proven yet?
[Kindle Fire General] JayceOoi:
Mine still v6.2 so far. :D

How to disable auto software update OTA on Kindle Fire?
[Kindle Fire General] animez:
Turning off one click makes no difference in the appstore, books or video. You can still buy with no prompt of a pin or password. It's not about "cry baby parents", anyone can pick up someone elses Kindle and order till their fingers bleed. Amazon never should have shipped it without the ability to require at least a pin for purchases. It's just lazy and short sighted. Their answer is lazy too, password protected wifi? Guess it will get the job done, but seems an odd choice to me.

That being said ZDbox has an applock that works great, that paired with a unlock password does the trick.

Sent from my Kindle Fire
[Kindle Fire General] movieaddict:
i just renamed it! i hope this works!!!
[Kindle Fire General] sgood1971:
I have update servers blocked in hosts, I still have not updated. I have spent a lot of time on wifi and even rebooted to see if it would install on boot. Think I'm going to go ahead and rename otasilentinstall just to be sure. But so far so good on hosts redirection.
[Kindle Fire General] ck_looi:
Wonder if we still can get temp root with 6.2.1 update.

//Step 1: push zergRush on the device then run chmod 755 on zergRush

Code:

$ adb push zergRush /data/local/tmp

$ adb shell chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/zergRush

//Step 2: temp root

Code:

$ adb shell

adb server is out of date. killing...

* daemon started successfully *

$ cd data/local

cd data/local

$ cd tmp

cd tmp

$ ls

ls

boomsh

zergRush

sh

$ rm sh boomsh Remove everything but zergRush here, it will not matter if yours is missing/out of order compared to mine

rm sh boomsh

$ ./zergRush

./zergRush

[**] Zerg rush - Android 2.2/2.3 local root

[**] (C) 2011 Revolutionary. All rights reserved.

[**] Parts of code from Gingerbreak, (C) 2010-2011 The Android Exploid Crew.

[+] Found a GingerBread ! 0x00015118[*] Scooting ...[*] Sending 149 zerglings ...

[+] Zerglings found a way to enter ! 0x10

[+] Overseer found a path ! 0x000151e0[*] Sending 149 zerglings ...

[+] Zerglings caused crash (good news): 0x40119cd4 0x0054[*] Researching Metabolic Boost ...

[+] Speedlings on the go ! 0xafd195cb 0xafd3937f[*] Popping 24 more zerglings[*] Sending 173 zerglings ...

[+] Rush did it ! It's a GG, man !

[+] Killing ADB and restarting as root... enjoy!

Then follow the instruction in this post - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1378063 to restore back to 6.2 (of coz you need the 6.2 firmware).

Then DC wifi, and quickly root it and disable the OTA apk file. Someone may try if this works.
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Is this something you actually tried? Or you want someone to try. I don't have 6.2.1 but others who do might. Also, you could do all of this without having WiFi on.
[Kindle Fire General] ck_looi:
I haven't tried as my fire is installed with CM7 already.

Just my suggestion, rest well as i don't think it will brick ur kindle fire. It is just a matter of can or can't to get temp root. If temproot can work, theoretically, i believe it can be restore back to 6.2.
[Kindle Fire General] jlocohustler:
Well, I guess Amazon is trying hard to filter out non-desirable kindle fire users! :(
[Kindle Fire General] rad3:
I had done the same with my hosts file, but was only on wifi for about an hour yesterday when I saw that the update was on it's way and immediately turned wifi off. No update came through. Still haven't turned it back on.

Went in a renamed OTASilentInstall late last night, so I am just contemplating turning it back on. Hoping I'm catching it with one of these 2 methods. I'll try it today and see...
[Kindle Fire General] peachyskin:
freezing the OTAinstall seems to be working so far for me
[Kindle Fire General] devilot:
Something to note: A buddy of mine at the office received his KF yesterday morning and promptly connected it to WiFi. He received the 6.2 update within a few minutes. However, he has had it connected since, with no interruptions, and he still hasn't received the 6.2.1 update. Just to clarify, this is a completely stock, unrooted KF.
[Kindle Fire General] kingsway8605:
This is such a bad move by Amazon. They have to realize people will find another way to root, this just irritates people.
[Kindle Fire General] asb2164:
Call Amazon crazy but in their quest to turn a profit the Kindle Fire was sold at a loss hoping that you would purchase content from them.
[Kindle Fire General] AndrewTL:
Is it possible to load older firmware sets?

Do you >really< believe they sold it at a loss?

There are similar tablets on the market in china for $50 with more features.

They are selling it at best buy and walmart.

Do you really think that best buy and walmart don't have markups of at least 40%?

I'm truly surprised either retailer is even willing to sell the darn things.

That said.. what happens if you take an older update file and just put it into the kindleupdates folder? Will the tablet load older firmware sets?
[Kindle Fire General] Hellcat6:
So was this the big update from Amazon or just a little teaser and the real update is still to come? Doesn't seem like Amazon has anything to say about 6.2.1 so maybe there is another to come? Didn't do anything about the carousel and that was a big complaint.

My KF always seems to lose the WiFi signal when it goes to sleep and has to find it again. Pretty sure mine was asleep the entire night and day yesterday but I still got the update. My own stupid fault for not turning it off completely but surprised it got through. As of now, I was able to do what I wanted prior to the update and besides the loss of the Market am OK with the device as it is. Of course the future is blocked now but hoping some of the smart guys work a fix soon.

Have 2 under the Christmas tree right now for the kids, wonder if one of them would do a trade for my "old" KF?
[Kindle Fire General] borborpa:
Amazon didn't do this update to break root and piss off the rooted users, it fixed security holes. Is it annoying, yes, but this is NOT a fully open Android tablet and was never advertised as such. Buying it to use for another purpose and then complaining when an update meant for 99.9% of users breaks something is a bit odd. They will get root again soon I'm sure.
[Kindle Fire General] skalogre:
The build quality and hardware specifications of the KF are much much higher than most OEM-no-brand tablets. And yes, it has been widely reported by analysts that the KF cost to manufacture is indeed more than the sale price.

pcmag. com/article2/0,2817,2396639,00.asp
[Kindle Fire General] jolars:
If you look at the number of people in this forum who are having issues after rooting and making mistakes and then returning the devices... I think there is a reason for Amazon to make rooting more difficult (it is costing them money).

In regards to the device being sold at a loss: With the production scale of this device, I would say that the manufacturing cost analysis is probably incorrect. You get a much better price on parts when you order (4 million, 5 million?) of them.
[Kindle Fire General] PR0XIDIAN:
Christmas Fire

I know for a fact that I got a KF for Christmas this year. I've been researching getting root for weeks now, but only because I want the Google Market on the stock launcher. (I have CM7 on my crappy phone, but I'm not adventurous enough to put it on my first tablet yet). Anyways point being, whether or not it is on 6.2 or 6.21 when I get it, I'd be more than willing to let a more experienced user try and find new root solutions over team-viewer.

So here is to hoping that my KF comes in the mail on a still root-able version! :D
[Kindle Fire General] skalogre:
Any speculation as to how this 6.2.1 is getting deployed? I have not seen any sort of pattern.
[Kindle Fire General] kingsway8605:
That isn't what I am saying. Amazon has to realize that people will just find another way to root. This is just going to aggravate their most vocal consumers. Amazon doesn't get anything in return, this isn't going to stop rooting is what I am saying, it is just going to agravate people.
[Kindle Fire General] chezzorilla:
Cant reroot after the update. SuperOneClick reoprts an error at the end :-(
[Kindle Fire General] asb2164:
Install CM7 = Problem solved

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Yes this has been reported and you will just have to wait until it is re-rooted
[Kindle Fire General] jacewt:
Seriously, if you want to stay on stock, for the moment, it's going to keep happening. If you don't want it to happen, develop your own custom stock rom that doesn't update. If you can't figure out how to root without superoneclick, maybe it's time to wait for the developers to figure it ALL out.

I want to root my kindle one day but I am waiting till it is all sorted out with a working recovery and a couple of working roms, including a modded stock. Till then, I am happy with my kindle. I am not a programmer or developer and the risk of bricking the thing is too high. I don't think it's ethical to return a device that you broke warranty on by rooting.

Anyway, I am not rooted and I have not gotten this updated. I am all charged up, have clicked sync. Nothing.
[Kindle Fire General] turtlebits:
Yup, works fine. You don't need root to get into fastboot.

I don't get why people are complaining about Official updates breaking root. If you don't want unexpected things to happen, either disable update or flash another rom.

That said, 6.2.1 is much better than 6.2.
[Kindle Fire General] asb2164:
CM7 is working great everything works we do have a recovery that works great I can use the Amazon app store just fine the Kindle app works just like it does on the stock Fire you can sideload books not purchased from Amazon.

I have had a few apps freeze up but that happened with the stock fire too.
[Kindle Fire General] rmagruder:
Is it fair to therefore say that the ONLY thing not working in CM7 for the Kindle Fire is the Amazon Instant Video apk, and that's only because we can't get the device to be seen as 'unrooted'?
[Kindle Fire General] gruuvin:
Try going to Settings > Device > System Version > Update Your Kindle

Details? Inquiring minds want to know!

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I kinda thought that there were many things not working in CM7 for the Kindle Fire, like no sound or home button.
[Kindle Fire General] hachiueno:
Audio was fixed a few days ago :) And home button is available by enabling it in CM7 settings. Hardware acceleration is the newest feature added to CM7, making in a very competent replacement ROM.
[Kindle Fire General] Winglerw28:
Those issues have been fixed in the update (and there never was one with no home button, you just have to enable it in settings), if you visit the thread in the Development forum you'll find the only issues are that you need to issue the "idme mac" command to fix your Mac address to its original value, and that Bluetooth isn't up yet (which the stock ROM doesn't have anyway).
[Kindle Fire General] gruuvin:
This is GREAT news! Cant wait to get it home and try CM7! Would it be to soon to start a "CM7 vs stock KF ROM" thread?
[Kindle Fire General] asb2164:
Just make sure you read all the info available here and don't jump in blind install the recovery and make a backup and then re-read everything that way we don't have another thread about how you are stuck in the bootloader and omg what do I do.

You can use the tool to install the recovery but make sure you understand how to use adb just in case.
[Kindle Fire General] JackpotClavin:
Oh so then you should be able to install a custom recovery and flash the su binary and superuser app via a zip
[Kindle Fire General] rmagruder:
Definitely want to hear more about what ways 6.2.1 is noticeably better?
[Kindle Fire General] jacewt:
Nope, it is grayed out.
[Kindle Fire General] lman00:
I didn't notice the update and for setting it to boot to fastboot I get : :(

<idme> Invalid permission
[Kindle Fire General] jeremy81:
You can sideload it by downloading it and placing it in the kindleupdates folder on your Kindle via a PC or downloading it to your Kindle and using a filemanager to move it into the folder. Link below:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire-updates/update-kindle-6.2.1_D01E_3103920.bin
[Kindle Fire General] Vashypooh:
Has anyone gotten 6.2.1 that is willing to let me teamviewer and see what I can do?
[Kindle Fire General] wassupsumu:
I thought I was lucky not getting the update......prepared now with all the anti-update measures.... hahaha
[Kindle Fire General] Mama Luigi:
Uh oh, I didn't hear about the 6.2.1 update until today, and my KF is currently sitting at home with the wifi on. Everything was working fine last night as far as I know but who knows what'll happen by the time I get home.
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
i assume nothing - the kf turns the wifi off if you turn off the display
[Kindle Fire General] asb2164:
It does if you have not disabled that option
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
just for my interest : where can i disable this function in the stock rom ?

(i have read there's a setting in the config files to achieve this)
[Kindle Fire General] fraeone:
Thanks for that, mine hasn't found the OTA update yet, despite my hopes for it to. I also see that Amazon hasn't posted the update yet to their site, how did you get the URL?
[Kindle Fire General] SirVilhelm:
So is anyone with 6.2.1 right now screwed for the moment? I am hoping to get the fire for christmas and I wanted to root it.
[Kindle Fire General] Arkaknio:
To save root status, install from Market "OTA rootkeeper" and make a backup.

To avoid OTA updates, just open Root Explorer, go to /system/app and rename OTASilentInstall.apk to OTASilentInstall.apk.bak

And you're done
[Kindle Fire General] Ectoplasmic:
OTA rootkeeper alone will not preserve root. I had it, received the update silently, and cannot restore root.
[Kindle Fire General] jb0ne:
Have either of these been confirmed? I saw a few posts from people saying OTA Rootkeeper didn't save root when they got the 6.1 to 6.2 update and they had to re-root.

Also have we actually confirmed that just renaming OTASilentInstall is sufficient? I mean, as of last night I was running 6.2 rooted and I still hadn't gotten the update, making me think they're rolling it out in waves and some people just haven't been hit yet. I quickly turned off Wifi and renamed OTASilentInstall in addition the hosts file change, but until we're certain that will do it, I'm keeping wifi off. I noticed there's a system process called ADCP (Amazon Device Control Program) and can't help but wonder if that's connected to the update process.
[Kindle Fire General] Mama Luigi:
Just to confirm, can you also use Titanium Backup to freeze it?

Soon as I get home I'm shutting off WiFi and doing this, hopefully it didn't apply the update while I was at work.
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Freezing the app does not work.

Using OTA Rootkeeper does not work.

What does work...

o Modified hosts file to block: 127.0.0.1 s3.amazonaws.com

o Renamed /system/app/OTASilentInstall.apk to /system/app/OTASilentInstall.apk.bak

Either one or all of them will block the update.

Also, if you have TWRP 2.0 loaded already, you won't get the update either.

First thing to do, before you have done those, is turn off WiFi...
[Kindle Fire General] jb0ne:
I seem to recall seeing a post from someone who used TB to freeze it and still got the update. I've not, however, seen anyone who renamed the OTASilentInstall file get the update....yet.
[Kindle Fire General] Mama Luigi:
Sweet, thanks everyone! Hopefully it won't have updated yet!
[Kindle Fire General] AndrewTL:
RE: I saw a few posts from people saying OTA Rootkeeper didn't save root when they got the 6.1 to 6.2 update and they had to re-root.

OTA Rootkeeper did not keep root for me between 6.1 and 6.2. I had it set with root backed up / not active.
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
OTA Rootkeeper is good for making the device temporarily unrooted so you can do things like Amazon Prime, but it doesn't protect you against an update, since the update overwrites the sections where the root stuff is stored.

After the update, none of the root tools are left.
[Kindle Fire General] neilrl79:
Someone posted a pre-rooted 6.2.1 update.zip on the dev section if anyone was interested in going that route.
[Kindle Fire General] yelvington:
I suspect ...

I suspect the upgrade replaces everything on the (read-only) /system partition. This kills the Google services that are needed for the Market, Calendar and Contact sync. Everything else (G+, Gmail, etc.) seems to run in user space and survived the upgrade.

I don't care about the Google Market. I can download anything I want on my phone and sideload it on the KF.

I do care about calendar sync, so I shelled out the six dollars for Calengoo and quit worrying about rooting the device.

Benefits of the upgrade include:

* Can remove items from the carousel.

* Carousel is much faster.

* UI overall feels faster.

* Clear reporting of app space and data space remaining on the device.

* Some improved parental controls on purchasing, wifi, etc.

There may be wifi authentication bugfixes, but I wasn't having troubles before, so I can't tell.
[Kindle Fire General] jb0ne:
I'm very new to Android but used to administer linux systems (a decade ago), why can't one just put a setuid root sh executable file somewhere on the sdcard and use that to regain root? Actually that sounds too easy, then ANY device could be rooted by just copying the executable file over, so there must be some internal control over running setuid root progs from the sdcard.

So maybe stash it away somewhere in /system that's not going to be overwritten in an update?
[Kindle Fire General] EarthMother:
For the people in a really big pinch, thought I would share that the update (at least when done manually) will not install if your battery remain under 40%. xD
[Kindle Fire General] NYCHitman1:
I'm still waiting to get my damn update. Dunno what is taking so long.
[Kindle Fire General] ITS ME DAVID:
I deleted otasilentinstall using rootkeper now rebooted and gonna turn on wifi crossing fingers.
[Kindle Fire General] neilrl79:
here is the link, download and manually install it

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20498814&postcount=1
[Kindle Fire General] ITS ME DAVID:
Haha let us know. The new features
[Kindle Fire General] ovakin:
arg!, I changed the OTA file name extension yesterday, no update.

Today I decided to double the barrier by adding s3.amazonaws.com to the host file, then open the url in dolphin, cannot connect.

About 15mins later, my Swiftkey stopped woking, I reboot, still force close. I opened setting-device, now I have 6.2.1

Please find a way to fix this, I freakin hate the stock keyboard :(
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Did you have TWRP loaded?
[Kindle Fire General] Winglerw28:
It has to do with how android applications run. Since each app is sort of sandboxed, you need a gateway for each app to access root permissions, even on a suid device. To work around this we install su as an android app that is the middleman between apps and the OS.
[Kindle Fire General] transfuntioner:
i took a quick peek at the src, unless there are shenanigans, the special usb cable trigger for fastboot should probably still work with the 6.2.1 u-boot that the update installed.

not verified though as i dont really have a reason to run the stock 6.2.1 update ..
[Kindle Fire General] ITS ME DAVID:
Been 4hrs no update yet still crossing fingers.
[Kindle Fire General] icebuck:
Simple Solution

As for me I have avoided the update simply by switching wifi off!

Is there any other way to use wifi and avoid the update?

Please link me!
[Kindle Fire General] Snak3x:
Yes.

Modify hosts file to add the following entry: 127.0.0.1 s3.amazonaws.com

Rename OTASilentInstall.apk to OTASilentInstall.apk.bak which is located in /system/app/
[Kindle Fire General] ITS ME DAVID:
^ who says that works. I got the sync button no update yet.
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Another user ovakin just reported that he got the update with both of those changes made.

The only thing he didn't verify was if he had TWRP loaded, but I think he did not.
[Kindle Fire General] ITS ME DAVID:
Mine just updated I deleted the otasilentinstall but still updated.
[Kindle Fire General] sl0ttedpig:
Last time I check my Wife's had not updated (and I only have the APK renamed to .bak). I'll check again in the morning.

BTW - Amazon have finally updated their page, and they also give you an indication of what they improved too.
[Kindle Fire General] ITS ME DAVID:
Even though it updated lost root I can't open market place but I can open apps planet and getjar and still download apps also my background still has the same live wallpaper I saved and honeycomb theme.

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Feels snappier and smoother and the Multi touch seems more responsive.
[Kindle Fire General] ghost_og:
update and android market

I just got the 6.2.1 update tonight and my market is still working fine (tested by installing Skype). Not saying this will definitely protect it, but when I originally set everything up I installed all .apks after placing them in /system/app. This is the 2nd update it's survived, FWIW.

Just wanted to let others know in case they wanted to try avoid losing the market and haven't had the update pushed yet.
[Kindle Fire General] litotamez:
Ok here in Costa Rica we don't have the update yet...the Kindle don't try to search the update...if I receive the update I'm gonna comment you my appreciation of this...