yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Droid Charge] Hindle1225:
Lets not forget that the Droid Charge only has 512mb ram. This is my only gripe with this phone. I came from an HTC Mytouch 4G which had over 700mb ram and it came in handy. For example: There is not enough ram on this phone to run LogMeIn for an extended period of time, the phone runs out of memory when you do other things like navigating or wifi tether.
[Verizon Droid Charge] xdadevnube:
Strange, I run LogMeIn without issues. Admittedly, I have a huge list of items Frozen with Titanium Backup. It seems like I have 100M free if I check on it randomly. Of course, having more RAM would be really nice. I strive for good battery life so I freeze all kinds of garbage. Also, I don't use any apps that poll for data, and there are just a few services running.

You may want to try adding LogMeIn to one of the services not to kill. I saw somewhere how to add any app you want to be prioritized.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jager420:
yeah if you want to be on 2.2...no options for 2.3 really besides infinity but that had mad reboots and lag...

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very true................
[Verizon Droid Charge] KarateExplosion6:
Give TweakStock a spin.
[Verizon Droid Charge] mc999:
More help please ...
[Verizon Droid Charge] orateam:
ive used every ROM here. I can say that they are all better than stock. My only problem with this phone is RAM. I think the CPU/Video is fast enough for any app I've used. But like a windows machine with a quadcore CPU, doesn't do any good if you try to run windows 7 with 1 gig of ram. Same here. The RAM, which cannot be upgraded, just kills this phone.

I basically have to go on weekly deletes of apps to keep it running. Alot of the apps keep TSR (terminate and stay resident) code to alert you of something. SKype stays logged on even when you sign out. Facebook, groupon, nba gametime, google music, mort book player, Playon, Scrabble, words with friends, Google talk, Zynga poker, and Zeo sleep manager are my current apps that i've left running and i need to kill at least half of them daily. I've already deleted about 30 or so others since Jan 1st. Each of those apps leave a trail of about 2-19 megs running. with only 130 megs free after a base install, i usually have 80 or less free which kills my phone. I tried running golauncher and goSMS, and a few other apps, but they wasted my memory too much. I have paid versions of several apps which i don't use because of memory constraints. I even tried to use an appkiller program, but it kept killing itself because memory was so little that it felt it had no other recourse. Resulted in an endless loop of kills that needed me to factory reset the phone.

coming from the fascinate, Its disappointing to me that they added a better camera, better and bigger screen, 4G LTE, and still did nothing with the memory for this phone. a boost of 256 mere megs would have made this phone a keeper.

If you can keep your apps list down or use apps which don't have notifications, then its ok. But i guess i'm too much of an app user for this particular phone. My next phone will have 1G RAM
[Verizon Droid Charge] StinkFoot_E92:
I enjoyed infinity rom very much but aswell. Unfortunately instability led me to flash over gummy charge froyo edition. Smoothest rom I've tried so far. Im patiently waiting for ICS progress well deserved Donation to JT. Im thinking of giving tweakstock a try later.
[Verizon Droid Charge] emtee_skull:
I would recommend this as a daily over any FE if/when we get ICS

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1406951
[Verizon Droid Charge] Joeyv:
So, from what I am able to understand, the biggest issue this project is facing is the differences in the radio drivers. (Galaxy S and charge differing from gnex and GSII) but if the GSM radios are successfully working on the Galaxy S ICS ports, could similar techniques be used to make the CDMA radios work in this case? Basically, I'm trying to learn and further understand what the hold up could be. (I would like to mainly expand my own knowledge and assist if possible.)
[Motorola Droid 3] aman321:
My phone shows ive around 120 to 140 ram is that enough so that the phone functions smothly without laggings? And i wanna know what free ram u guys have while using ur phone ....
[Motorola Droid 3] aman321:
I mean total memory free***
[Motorola Droid 3] Bobbar:
Around 100MB +/- 50 free is nominal, I guess.

The way I understand it:

It's going to vary quite a bit, depending on what your doing, number of additional serviced installed, etc. But generally speaking, Android is a very different animal compared to -- say -- Windows. Free RAM doesn't really have an affect on performance, it's just RAM that's not being exploited. There are several parameters that tell the OS how much RAM should be free in a number of different circumstances, also when and how often to kill other services. i.e. As RAM usage increases, apps and services with increasingly higher priorities will be killed to free up RAM. So like if you run Angry Birds, you may start with 100MB free which will drop down to say 70 maybe even 50, but after a few minutes of running, the OS begins to try to free up memory to get it back to what ever the desired free RAM is set to. So after a few minutes, your RAM may go all the way back up to 100MB. Where Windows would just start to pound away at a page file on the hard drive, Android will start to kill applications then eventually kill lower priority services in order to free up the RAM it needs.

So basically every time you run a RAM heavy program, Android will start to kill the previously used programs (settings screen, browser, facebook, whatever), as they are now deemed lower priority. It's always fighting to maintain a certain about of RAM.
[Motorola Droid 3] slayer621:
I have an average of about 150mb on the latest CyangenMod build (not ICS). However once I start up my phone and run the auto kill after about 10 minutes, I can have 200+ (sometimes as high as 250).

Bobbar said it well in terms of how much you need. To be honest, when I was on the stock rom, I would sometimes have less than 70mb free, yet my phone still wouldn't lag much. You can help with any launcher lag by disabling desktop animations and such.
[Motorola Droid 3] doogald:
I'm generally in the range of 60 - 90 MB free RAM at any given moment. My D3 does not lag at all. What you are reporting is absolutely fine.

My first phone regularly reported 25 - 40 MB free RAM at any given moment. Android runs fine on the D3 - it's best not to spend too much time worrying about it, IMO.
[Motorola Droid 3] Bobbar:
If you have a bunch of RAM free all the time it just means you're losing out on multitasking. Some people tweak their OOM values and such so that they have copious amounts of free RAM, this is not necessarily a good thing. IMO
[Motorola Droid 3] Accophox:
Android aggressively pre-loads applications into memory. The most ideal situation is actually higher memory usage - as most apps don't need ridiculous amounts of memory to operate, and more apps cached in memory means faster launch times for those specific apps.
[Motorola Droid 3] MrObvious:
If you have a bunch of apps not closing and lagging your phone then try Auto killer.
[Motorola Droid 3] Milt75:
I've got 240MB free at any given moment with stock ROM and doesn't lag at all.
[Motorola Droid 3] BenSWoodruff:
So, not to get off topic, what exactly do all these newer phones need 1GB of RAM for? Just to load up more apps into memory? I get it, it should make them load up faster...but is it necessary on Android?

It just blows me away how much these manufacturers charge for phones these days. Seems like we're just getting into the same kind of specs 'arms race' that people have been going through on their PCs for a while now, just so they can try to make more money. That's pretty sad, considering I have a fine experience with the D3 and G2x.
[Motorola Droid 3] 白い熊:
1 gig of RAM would be a great thing, for instance for running GNU/Linux in chroot, which I do...

The prob is the Droid 3 doesn't have anywhere near enough total RAM, not to speak of free RAM.
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Some.of.the Phones with 1gig ram have the lapdock, it docks with a keyboard/screen to be a pseudo laptop. When docked half the ram is set aside for the lapdock
[Motorola Droid 3] Bobbar:
Well, Android has gotten fatter, for one. Another would be Motos Webtop.

The more memory you have, the more apps you can have stored in it at any one time. Devices with small amounts of RAM (256 or so) may only be able run one major app at a time. But once you get into the 512 - 1GB+ range, users can freely switch between several heavy apps without them getting killed to free RAM. So you could switch between Angry Birds, then the browser, then YouTube or Email and Messaging without having to relaunch any of them.

So manufacturers tossing in more and more RAM does end up being a pretty good selling point.

Just looks at how powerful these devices are compared to just a few years ago. The innovation and power is increasing at an almost logarithmic rate. The price for a high-end smart phone has remained about the same, but the rate at which they are being cycled for newer, faster devices is crazy. So, in this sense, it may be accurate to compare it to PCs. But, it's only us enthusiasts that really feel the hit to the pocket book, because we always want to be on the bleeding edge. And most users, average users, will stay with the same device for a long time, they don't feel the same 'pain' as the enthusiasts group.

Back in 2005, before the iPhone and all that stuff, a smart would cost you almost $700 and it came with a steaming, stinking pile of Windows Mobile. We have it so good these days.
[Motorola Droid 3] nicktastique:
I have around 200MB at boot (CM7).

Yes, that should be enough RAM to use most apps without lagging. That's about what I had with stock, and I rarely ran out.
[Motorola Droid 3] rblanca:
512mb it's a little down for me... because i like multitasking and for example if you download something from a web page, using opera mobile or stock browser and you open facebook's app while you listening music (poweramp or winamp) it will kill your internet browser (cancel your download) due to your less ram avaible.

A great solution for us would be if we can enable a swap on our droids but it seems to be difficult (or imposible due to our locked bootloaders)... but if somoene is interested here is a link to the current topic http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1407671

With swap enabled our device will move to virtual memory our background apps leaving free ram to our current app.
[XPERIA X10 General] huzi7868:
I FOUND THIS WHAT YA ALL THINK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDDphkmSQBo&feature=player_embedded#!
[Viewsonic ViewPad 7 & Variants] jweir:
Does anyone know of a keyboard for viewpad7e ?

I have a keyboard for my GTab and thought with a converter for the USB it would work, but does not.

Jim
[Viewsonic ViewPad 7 & Variants] bangjamz:
hi there,

you could use USB OTG with mini USB jack. it works for me though.

i've tried bt keyboard for Gtab, but it didnt work for me. maybe it needs some apk or something to make it connected
[Viewsonic ViewPad 7 & Variants] jweir:
sorry USB OTG with mini USB Jack,what is this?.. I have a USB keyboard that I use with Gtablet and work great .. tried with a USB converter plug and it does not work for me.. what keyboard are you using please..

Jim
[Viewsonic ViewPad 7 & Variants] Dr.Lota:
On my view pad 7 (without e) the issue with keyboards really was on the mini usb connector. Several keyboards doesn't work with the first usb-to-miniusb adapter, but switching the adapter, following an accessories seller advice, all keyboard work just fine.

Try with another mini converter and take your keyboard to the store to try it.

Now I'm using a common usb desktop mini keyboard with an adapter and it works perfect. And you can carry that with almost no extra weight in your bag or backpack.

Greetings from Chile :)
[Viewsonic ViewPad 7 & Variants] ecossais:
freeKEY - Flexible Water Resistant Keyboard

I have been using this Bluetooth KB with my Viewpad 7 for several months now. It is available from Scosche for $59.99 but Amazon has it for $32.99. A bonus is it is easy to transport since it rolls up.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] niko_droid:
Hi guys.

This is a continuation of my thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399375 and I thought it might help to repost to this forum.

So here's the summary:

Phone: WIND's LG Optimus 2X (P999)

Didn't know that Optimus 2X is P990, so flashed Optimus 2X ROM.

Big mistake. Stuck on LG booting screen.

Unable to get into recovery, boots me back to LG screen.

And now I am stuck. Any help is greatly appreciated.

EDIT (Additional details): I have done everything here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1056847 I have the drivers, the one click flasher, etc. I get stuck on the Flash ClockworkMod Recovery section, step 7. I am simply unable to get any files to copy to my device. As soon as I "press any button to continue", I hear teh usb sound on my computer and my phone just disconnects (driver no longer visible in device manager).

EDIT: Problem solved, had to plug it into the back of my comp instead of using the front usb ports. Please delete/lock this thread as you see fit.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jwslam:
Do this. It saved me.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1180331
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattykellyuk:
Running cm7, is this normal? Mostly the android os bit that looks wrong to me.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcadam:
Try Siyah kernel it is compatible with cm and deals with the android os problem.
[Vibrant Android Development] krackers:
This is not my work - All credit goes to Neo. Donate to him if you want to show your appreciation.

Here is a clean (legal) version of neobuddy's ICS Passion rom.

http://code.google.com/p/ics-galaxy-s/

If you want to know why the original was removed, argue/debate/read about it here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399909

Contact Neo:

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/308078452559685/ [Must have facebook account to view. Neo said he would post v8 there; can anyone who has a facebook account log in and give a link to the downloads hosted there?]

Twitter: http://twitter.com/PranAwesome

Google +: https://plus.google.com/104165442917228318542/

GitHub: https://github.com/neobuddy89

Yahoo: neobuddy89

IRC : #icspassion Server: Freenode [Click for web based freenode client]

General google + group : https://plus.google.com/105141545143217032234/posts

Donation to Neo!

http://xdaforums.com/donatetome.php?u=3795148

From original thread [All offending links removed]:

__________________________________________________________________

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Compiled list of tweaks

"I fixed GPS accuracy issue by switching from Standalon to MS Based. Now lock inside with 8m accuracy."

In other words...

"in the GPS LbsTest App > Application Settings > Operation Mode > MS Based" to improve GPS accuracy"

"added .nomedia to my clockwordmod folder and titanium backup folder in the root of the SD card. The media scanner quit eating battery after that."

"in SysControl, go to the Performance tab and click on build.prop Tweaks and change the Wifi scan interval rate to 180 from 90. "

"in Settings go into Developer Settings and turn on the Force GPU rendering and also in that screen, also change the HDCP checking to "never use HDCP checking"

INIT D LAG FIX!

"I suggest you need to flash fresh after doing these steps:

1. Open zip file on your PC.

2. Delete /system/etc/init.d

3. Place THIS file in system/bin, after renaming this to setupdata (without the txt)

4. Flash it. Enjoy no lag but less quadrant."

ICS MODEMS:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399722
[Vibrant Android Development] symbit:
I was wondering where that thread went.
[Vibrant Android Development] 2000nits:
What about it was not "legal"?
[Vibrant Android Development] samwest39:
what happned why is this a "legal" version was the other one illegal?
[Vibrant Android Development] DaSmittyman:
I am sure he forgot to delete a full app that he purchased and didn't remove when he compiled. Then again, I have never worked on a rom so I could be wrong. In the end, I seriously doubt he did it on purpose.
[Vibrant Android Development] kevho00:
Awwwwww why did it go down?
[Vibrant Android Development] krackers:
What happened was that he included a few pirated apps (or so I've been told), and forgot to post source, (even though he was going to, by the time he did, it was too late)
[Vibrant Android Development] samwest39:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399909
[Vibrant Android Development] krackers:
Added the above link to main post
[Vibrant Android Development] rrubio999:
It´s amazing... I love it.. you guys are a genius... is working fantastic... and I don´t need video recording..
[Vibrant Android Development] shawn605:
Where is?

GPS LbsTest App and SysControl?
[Vibrant Android Development] scrizz:
how do you post source to pirated apps :confused:
[Vibrant Android Development] krackers:
He forgot to post kernel source and rom source.

To get into lbstest mode try dialing: *#3214789650#
[Vibrant Android Development] TFordham:
Do you know if this ROM will continue to be developed?
[Vibrant Android Development] vlad84:
Great ROM. Tnx.
[Vibrant Android Development] wergeld:
No "Performance" tab in SysControl app for me.
[Vibrant Android Development] Mattymat:
I believe he wanted you to use the performance tab in Rom Toolbox. It's where you can use the sliders to adjust the CPU speed. Check it out.
[Vibrant Android Development] J017373:
the lag fix. should it be titled "setupdatadata.txt" when we paste in /bin
[Vibrant Android Development] jakill:
v7 Quadrant nice

Rom works great nice scores had an issue with lag but after a day of use the lag seem to disappear.
[Vibrant Android Development] granduke:
Just "setupdatadata". No extension.
[Vibrant Android Development] TomJones30:
Quadrant Advanced was the 'paid' app included in the rom.
[Vibrant Android Development] jsparakov:
Anybody have a list of all the apps removed so I can actually go look at them at the market for legal purchase/download?

What I've pieced together so far:

Root explorer

Quadrant Advance

ROM Toolbox
[Vibrant Android Development] kas21:
Can you unzip the rom, edit it, and then just zip it back up? Does the rom need to be signed in order to flash? I am on a Mac and I have not found an App on OS X that lets you open the zip without extracting it, so I cannot just edit the zip "on the fly".
[Vibrant Android Development] krackers:
http://www.mediafire.com/?7sjphun19t7p9jl

Enjoy!
[Vibrant Android Development] drscott333:
Facebook Group

There's a new facebook group you can join to keep up with this ROM and the latest updates

http://www.facebook.com/groups/308078452559685/
[Vibrant Android Development] RobZarzecki:
thank you, just d/l and am going to try. If one is not on these choices from the OP,

CM7/MIUI/ICS,

are there alternate flashing directions? I'm on Simply Stock JVT with GB bootloaders..plus a few other basics

wipe/format/factory wipe? any need to pull sd card or odin to stock..thanks:confused:
[Vibrant Android Development] Xenoism:
It's great to have a passion thread again.

The issue with the other thread was that neo had renamed several apps to make it look as though he was the dev for them. He removed the real Devs info inside the app and replaced it with his own -- Such as in "Rom Toolbox NB" It says "Neobuddy89 presents Rom Toolbox" -- he didn't really make that app. He not only renamed them and changed the Devs info to his own, he also included these apps (paid versions) in his Rom for free.
[Vibrant Android Development] krackers:
If you are not on CM7, I suggest you odin to stock, flash cm7, then flash ICS
[Vibrant Android Development] boystuff:
actually even though he added his info there, if you look below that it still had the original Dev's info. however it is still a paid for app and he should have been mindful of including said app(s) in his rom. as most apps have free ad versions he could have included instead and if the rom users wanted the paid version they could have gone to market and purchased so that the creators would have gotten there due.

ok just noticed it only gives credit to JRummy at the first time you open it, after that all i can find is Developed by: neobuddy89 :(

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I personally Find Es File explorer more then adaquate for everything i need to do (free)

Quadrant has a free Ad Version

ROM toolbox free ad version also available.

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not needed.

from stock JFD

flash CWM using an update.zip

then flash rom 2x

first time updates cwm and gives bootloop

3 button to cwr

mounts menu

format

system, cache, Data, data/data

wipe dalvik

flash rom fix permissions boot as normal.

i've done this numerous times using just a basic 2.1 update.zip for cwr
[Vibrant Android Development] RobZarzecki:
thanks krackers and boystuff, i will scope out a good cm7 base but will most likely try the 3 button combo flash thingie...i think that was on the old OP

as well ...i guess i should save this info in case this thread vanishes!
[Vibrant Android Development] boystuff:
honestly the CM install just adds another step in the process

here is what i personally do with a fresh install

grab the CWR update.zip

(thread link) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=849028

direct link to update.zip http://sourceforge.net/projects/stockodinjfd/files/update.zip/download

stock JFD

use the update.zip to flash CWR for eclair (2.1)

from there flash ICS (bootloop) installs CWR 5.1.xxx

3 button CWR

Goto Mounts and storage

Format

Data

Data/Data

Cache

System

Advanced Menu

Wipe Dalvik

Flash ICS second time (installs rom this time)

Fix Permissions

Boot into rom

allow rom to settle for 5-10 minutes

Reboot

now begin the 1 time setup. wifi, google account, location etc.

install Titanium

Restore all apps without Data

reboot CWR (or just use rom manager)

Fix Permissions

Reboot Play

I've ran this method for CM7/Miui, all the GB roms, and ics Passion V2-7 never have any hitches.

also it appears V8 will Require GB bootloaders so for those of you uncomfortable with Flashing bootloaders now's the time to get aqainted with the process so that you don't actually Perma Brick your device.
[Vibrant Android Development] RobZarzecki:
great info. i appreciate the info very much! will follow these.
[Vibrant Android Development] Nabeel10:
Wait why can't we install apps WITH data?

Sent from my Vibrant
[Vibrant Android Development] tiber:
Here's one of my rare meta-posts...

Neobuddy posted to the facebook group that the infraction has been forgiven by XDA moderators and that he's pulled the release until he sorts out the software problem. I've been trying to encourage him to re-post to XDA.
[Vibrant Android Development] TFordham:
I sure hope he does. People make mistakes. That was a doozy, but it's time to move on.
[Vibrant Android Development] xxProphecyxx:
This was just closed... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399909

Hope I can follow here.
[Vibrant Android Development] tiber:
Join the group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/308078452559685/

There's an unfortunate amount of people who's attitude is "YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH YOUR ROM THE XDA GUYS ARE MEANIES!" I've been trying to occupy the moral middle between encouragement and "remember the guys who paved the road to here" and playing the no-harm-no-foul angle. He (Pranav Vashi) seems to get it but I'm not the moral majority. This is probably the difference between facebook and XDA. I get out into nontechnical forums and it amazes me that people assume that each ROM or whatever emerges gestalt from the ether in the period of two weeks, unique to it's author.

It would be nice to see the ROM posted back here rather than farcebook.