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[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
Of course. EE has CPU @ 1GHz. GT has CPU @ 1.3GHz. GT+ has CPU @ 1.45GHz. That's why EE is more power saving...

I use GT+ and I underclocked it down to 1GHz - no one really needs more. I also applied an undervolt of -125mV. Below that (-150), the phone freezes and reboots. Using SetCPU for that purpose :)

Sent from my Neutrino-loaded ATRIX
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Maringer:
Not too surprising.

Increasing clockspeed by 30% will require a higher voltage than the stock 1GHz clockspeed so the you're consuming 30% more power for the overclock and then more power on top for the higher voltage. It wouldn't surprise me if the CPU overclocked to 1.3GHz used 50% more power than the stock clockspeed.

Battery life is most important to me at present which is why I stick with EE. I suppose that if you are more into gaming or know that you have no problems getting to a charger frequently, the overclocks of GT may be worthwhile.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
I underclock to 456 MHz when I know I REALLY have to have battery all day long. It doesn't lag... Only a bit, in intensive tasks, and when scrolling.

Anyway, even 800 MHz is better (power saving), and the phone really doesn't lag - not even in games, lol.

Sent from my Neutrino-loaded ATRIX
[Atrix 4G Android Development] 0kando0:
Hello everyone!

I have been having problems with my touch screen. In seemingly random intervals, my phone will lose all touch capabilities. The phone is still responsive when I press the power button or the volume keys, but nothing else works. Over time this appears to be getting worse until now where my phone is ~ 90% "frozen" and 10% "thawed". By this I mean that my entire screen is not responsive roughly 90% of the time. Please excuse the redundancy or any lack of clarity.

I had been running Neutrino 2.6 GT+ for a few weeks with no issues when the problem arose. I just tried wiping my phone and flashing Neutrino 2.7 GT along with gapps. This did not solve anything. I have brainstormed about what to do but I would like a second opinion before continuing on. I have been following this thread fairly avidly and I do not remember seeing a similar problem earlier. Is this a hardware problem or is there something I can do?

Otherwise, I think thanks are necessary for all those who are involved with Neutrino (especially Notorious544d). After using the product and being overwhelmed with useful posts, it is obvious that a donation is in order! Will be sending one your way Notorious. All the other consumers should seriously consider doing the same thing (especially for a student).

On a related note, I recently dropped my phone and it suffered several cracks. Although this could be contributing to my issues, I do not believe it is a major factor. I will be fixing this when I get the parts.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ltdanno360:
Yea you droped it thats the issue i had no issues on Gt it runs great if you can do a warrenty replacment :D

your digitiser is busted!

test it by shakeing the phone and see if it makes it worse or better (you will Know):screwy:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] 0kando0:
I am not entirely convinced the drop is the root of my problem. I started having issues before I cracked the screen and it still has periods where there appears to be no issues at all.

I think I want to try and fix it myself though. I have never taken a phone apart before and this seems as good a time as any to get some experience. :cool:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] PsyAlik:
Well when i used Gt it was set to 800mhz max in setCPU,and still i had bad battery life
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edgeball:
Why do you install GT+ when you underclock it anyway?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
I don't ALWAYS underclock that much, I usually go with it at 1GHz, but I also want to have the possibility to OC if I ever need/want to.

Sent from my Neutrino-loaded ATRIX
[Atrix 4G Android Development] edgeball:
And how is the battery life underclocked compared to the EE?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ashad0509:
Alright...sorry for disappearing the last couple of days. But in the last 24 hours, my phone started rebooting itself like crazy...completely random too. I will play intensive games, it'll be fine sometimes reboot others. Ill let it sit deep asleep in my lap, it'll be fine for a while then all of a sudden o see it rebooting. It was perfectly fine since Notorious released 2.7 up until 24 hours ago and nothing has been changed......any ideas?

EDIT: forgot what I had read about using faux023 instead of 024. Ill try that
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Notorious544d:
J-Roc uploaded a video review of V2.7

Check it out on post #3 or click directly here.

Enjoy :D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
You're right, Notorious and anyone who makes such stuff in their free time, basically for free, deserve donations. I'd donate, if I weren't a student myself, and, above all, if I had PayPal, at least. I hope no rich smartass comes & brags about how he donated $50 and rant @ others for not doing the same, for the next 50-200 pages (like it usually goes in some other sub-forums :rolleyes: ). I've seen this happening :) ...

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My digitiser is somewhat acting strangely, too. This happens since I got it, and I did drop it a few days ago (but that did not affect it in any way). The left side corner of the phone is acting up, at least... I made a thread & a video about it, and I shall make another, better (HD) video on that. It's funny how the "P" and "DEL" keys from the keyboard can be so messy at times :rolleyes: (at least in portrait mode). I just hope it's some driver issue...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
Well, I don't really know... I never let the CPU on 1.45 GHz for too long. It was at the maximum for only half an hour, time in which I restored apps with Titanium Backup & stuff like that... Then, I set the CPU at 1 GHz. I gotta say the battery life is a lot better than on the previous phone I had (EVO 3D, dual cores over clocked at 1.51 GHz - the cores were asynchronous, though).

Seems like this Tegra 2 is better than the Qualcomm's Snapdragon processors. Even though it's clocked at 1 GHz, the phone is MUCH snappier than a Snapdragon at the same frequency. I guess the reason for this is the fact that Qualcomm's processors are asynchronous (each individual core runs at its own frequency), while Tegra's cores run in parallel (so-to-say), at the same frequency. Tegra 2 at 800 MHz is faster than a Snapdragon at 1.2 GHz, lol. If I were to underclock the Snapdragon to ~800 MHz, even the menu scrolling would lag, ROFL.

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When I tap (single tap, that is) in the Browser, when viewing a full-desktop page, a corner (specifically the lower left one), or that area, it is as if I double tapped (it zooms in!)... I rarely pinch to zoom (I mostly double tap), so I don't know if the same happens to me... I'll try, and I'll let you know what the outcome was.

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Sorry, I have no knowledge in that. I know the voltages (among frequencies and some other stuff) can be tampered from the init.d scripts... I'd like someone to confirm / explain, though.

I undervolted -150mV with SetCPU, the phone froze and rebooted a few seconds later. Funny thing, right when it froze, a SMS arrived, and at the second vibration, the vibration somewhat froze, too, and it stopped only after the phone rebooted. The same would happen for the sound, too (it'd enter a loop). When a Qualcomm CPU was freezing, the sound would continue to play, not loop, lol.

Anyway...

Then, I thought I'd better stick with an UV of -125mV, which seemed pretty stable. The phone went into some sort of sleep of death : I could not wake it up by any means. I tried calling myself from another phone, and I could hear the tone, like my mobile was turned on, but I wasn't answering. Normally, if you're trying to call a phone that is turned off, you get a robot saying "The user you're trying to reach is unavailable bla bla bla"...

Then, I applied an UV of -100mV. Since then, it's stable. Now, the phone is DEFINETLY a LOT cooler. Don't know how much this will (positively) impact battery life (which is already AWESOME).
[Atrix 4G Android Development] 0kando0:
It wasn't my intention (although another couple hundred pages wouldn't hurt the thread ;)). I am currently taking a break year from school myself. It helps me remember to keep patient while Notorious focuses on exams rather than cm9.

Do you have a link for the thread you posted? My digitizer does't show bias towards any section of the screen. The whole thing doesn't work when it acts up :(
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
I don't remember the exact threads, and their titles might have been changed or deleted since then (it's been a while). I exagerated with 50-200 pages - it only went on for ~300 pages or so, until the guy got silenced I guess. The last time it happened, it was on a ROM thread in the EVO 3D GSM section : some bloke from England was suggesting I start donating instead of complaining (can't one simply provide (dare I say critical) bug reports?), then, some other fellow compatriot did the same. I eventually stopped reporting bugs (in proper English), so I guess the thing is still going on, and perhaps now some other not-proper-English-at-all speakers provide crappy bug reports (such as "my phon isnt pseale HLEP"). In that case, I wouldn't have donated even if I had the possibility. That thing also contributed to my decision to go for the ATRIX - the community. Anyway, enough with that.

Sure I do. HERE you go. But grab some pop corn or set up some ambiental music, you're gonna have to read a lot :) . Also, see THIS (not in the topic) - I just recorded it.

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You're probably right. Just think of all the missed calls & texts if the phone was to freeze like that in my pocket, for 10-240 minutes, lol...

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You mean ask him about how to undervolt within the kernel? Is that really necessary? I mean... we shouldn't have to decompile & edit the kernel to apply UV. This can be easily done with apps (and I doubt it has such a crappy effect). Also, there's the init.d way (method for which I'm waiting for someone to provide info on). I'll ask in faux's thread, anyway.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] miko85:
Since jumping around cm9 and miui I forgot how good the cm7 rom was. Thanks man for a well built daily driver.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] legend221:
Flashed it yesterday, thanks so much for your input. It's definitely fast, stable and no force closes or random restarts as of now.

Quick question to everyone, how can I sync my contacts and link it to my Google account? I installed the gapps lite file but there is no contacts or calendar sync.

Sent from where time and space do not exist via XDA Premium
[Atrix 4G Android Development] 0kando0:
I have just been wiping in recovery. Doing this makes a difference? I thought I could choose my method?

fastboot -w

fastboot erase system

fastboot erase preinstall

fastboot erase boot
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Notorious544d:
That could be a digitizer issue rather than a ROM issue. If you have the time (and patience) flash Nottachtrix ROM and see if the problem persists. If it does, then you need to get your digitizer replaced.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
Yeah, that's the best way to wipe clean. There was moto-fastboot / fastboot wipe .bat script that did that for you in less than 2 seconds, but I can't find it anymore, so no link for you...

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The Gapps .zip won't be enough. There's a Sync addon there, goo.

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The Galaxy S 2 uses a completely different processor. I believe all processors, NVIDIA, Qualcomm and Samsung, while they may be building on the same ARM architecture, are still a LOT different. Perhaps the results your friend had on his SGS2 will not coincide with someone else's, who's using a phone with a Qualcomm/NVIDIA processor. I'm just saying.

Anyway, it is true, at least in a way. The apps don't apply voltage/frequency changes INSIDE the kernel/scripts; they just apply the changes you've done on the superficial level, or on a level not-deep-enough...

I'll ask in faux's thread about the scripts. When I have an answer, I'll post here, too.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] 0kando0:
Running the commands isn't a big deal but I wasn't aware that I should be giving fastboot preference? Isn't that just more time consuming?

This will be my test too then I suppose.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
Fastboot preference? You mean preferring to wipe via fastboot instead of recovery? If so, then yes. You could just as well wipe/format the same partitions from CWM. The outcome would be the same...

Time consuming? What is time consuming? Having to do all those via fastboot, meaning you can't flash while on-the-go (& not having a laptop nearby)? I flashed a ROM without wiping those via fastboot (only traditional wipes from recovery) and all went well... I doubt anything would go wrong if you don't do those in fastboot, but do the traditional wipe from recovery. I still did it, just to make sure, lol.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Notorious544d:
Updated OP with new V2.7 screenshots (not much different than before, just the new fonts).

I also put up a notice stating how development will be slowed from now until 25th May due to my exams.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rionline:
I think you have done it. You created my favorite rom. All the hardware is working, it is really really fast and has a fresh look. Thanks alot for ending my search :)

Good luck with your exams!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
Is anyone able to maintain an undervolt of -125mV without the phone crashing/freezing/entering sleep of death? I'm just asking. I'm sticking with -100mV until someone confirms no such issues occur at -125mV. At-150mV, I know for sure everything crashes.

Anyway, I was able to maintain the CPU @ 800MHz for today. Gave the phone to a mate so he could play some games (Where's My Water, They Need To Be Fed, ShadowGun, Dark Legends) and he said he didn't notice any lag.

Indeed, I can play intensive games such as Pocket/Star/Dark Legends without any additional lag/stuttering at 800 MHz. I'm saying "any additional" because even with the CPU maxxed out at 1.45 GHz, these games begin to stutter a bit when, say, 10 enemies around me get surrounded and trampled with stars/sparks or such (very intensive, fast moving graphics).

I could even play GTA 3 (the new version, which allows for Graphic Settings changes - I maxxed them out) with the CPU @ 1 GHz (didn't try with 800 MHz), and although the frame rate was not really 30 fps, I'd say it was ~25 or so (manageable). With the CPU all the way up to 1.45 GHz, the frame rate was considerably higher (but would still drop 2-3 frames or so when intensive graphics occur, again). Note that the EVO 3D with both (asynchronous) cores @ 1.51 GHz would yield about the same performance in this game.

The only thing I think is causing these stutters when intensive graphics occur is the OS. GingerBread isn't really holy-freaking awesome when compared to IceCreamSandwich. I'm expecting the overall performance to drop jaws when ICS finally arrives.

Anyway, the above part, although may not be entirely ROM-related (what tweaks Notorious made), but kernel-related, was meant to inform you guys about the "performance tests" I've made (if it matters to you, lol).

Meanwhile, somewhere in the Middle East... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsJw-7JKzj4&feature=player_detailpage#t=5s
[Atrix 4G Android Development] windozedev:
To put this to an end

Just cause the nexus S doesn't work that way doesn't mean that we throw the basic premise of heat=wasted energy out the window. Thats as raw and simple as it gets, there's science to back it too. Despite what the nexus S users say, this simple concept applies to all electronics. Reduction in voltage reduces transistor gate leakage exponentially (which is what all that cpu heat is :D )

To say what you are saying is to say that we could max out the voltage of our phones, until it's ready to cook eggs, and that won't be consuming any more energy than if we were using a lower voltage. That lost energy, comes in the form of HEAT. So the lowered cpu temperature is a key symptom, in showing that less power is being used.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...olting-reduce-power-consumption-by-3225!.aspx

http://www.nordichardware.com/test-...40-undervolting-a-laptop.html?start=7#content

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1283163

http://ancillotti.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Underclock-and-undervolt-making-your-PC-more-Green

"In addition to make use proportionately less power transistors to switch state, reducing the voltage causes the gate leakage exponentially becomes lower, resulting in a further reduction in consumption. While a 10% reduction in frequency reduces the consumption of the processor also at 10%, a 10% reduction in tension has resulted in a reduction from 15 to 20% in consumption.

In other words, the gain to reduce the voltage is exponential, not linear."

Now we can put this under the rug :p
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Randomverll:
When talking about undervolting, you have to consider that not everyone's hardware is the same, so based on the quality of the hardware and how used it is, undervolting capabilities will be limited. -125mv may work for some, but others may be capped at -85mv so please consider that.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] daredevil07:
Hi there. Thanx for the great ROM. I'm facing 1 great problem with the ROM. When answering a call, my screen got completely blank even after hang up. Pushed all the buttons (Power, Volume) but the screen still blank. It can only be waked up when received another call. Didn't face this problem with other ROM. Really need some assistant here. Thank you

P/S: Installed the ROM dozens of time with wiping off the cache + data + system + osh + preinstall
[Atrix 4G Android Development] METALLICAM:
[Batch] FFW - Fastboot Full Wipe

Here is the link for the [Batch] FFW - Fastboot Full Wipe. I always use this and have never had any problems with it. I posted this about a million pages ago .................... here it is again.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1421261
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ashad0509:
My random rebooting is back again. :( flashing the 023 kernel didn't help me any but I think mine is hardware related. I tried 4 different rims throughout the day and had random reboots in each one. Including stock 4.5.91. :( might be getting close to having to get a new phone.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Randomverll:
Mayby try a different radio as there might be an issue there
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ashad0509:
That's what I'm trying now...funny thing is it seems to have fixed it...even though I have used the same radio for the last 4 months. Including the first couple of days on 2.7 and never had an issue...its been an hour on a different rradio and no reboots...hmmm. I guess ill find out more tomorrow
[Atrix 4G Android Development] rskyline:
When i flashed 2.7 GT i get wifi error and i solved it flashing kernel again. So flash kernel doesn't screw this ROM tweaks??

Enviado desde mi Atrix™ 4G CM7 Nightly
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
No, because Notorious applied tweaks NOT in the kernel, but the ROM (scripts and etc.).

Sent from my quarks-loaded [M]ATRIX
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
I know. I still want people's answers...

Sent from my quarks-loaded [M]ATRIX
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sathelate:
Yeah! Me too! Not sure if it's driver related or ROM related! Someone should throw a log! Hehe is it make a difference ... :P the pinch zoom "mini-issue" almost always happens in dolphin when I zoom in!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
Here, everyone, look. It's not kernel-related (as I thought) or radio-related (I tried two radios so far, same thing). Burried-into-CM7 bug :rolleyes:
[Atrix 4G Android Development] sathelate:
Wich kernel are u using? The GT?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
GT+. It hardly matters, GT or GT+... I set the CPU freq to 1 GHz, anyways. I don't need 1.45 (at least not always, anyway).
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Notorious544d:
Omg, can this undervolting thing please stop!!! If you are so passionate about it then argue in another thread, or I'll start reporting people.

Sent from my Atrix
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ashad0509:
Good news is....My phone isn't rebooting....I went back to the 37P radio for AT&T instead of using that dutch one that i've been using...However, bad news is....I can't switch it to 2G only anymore :(

If anyone knows of a radio that doesn't reboot, and lets me use 2G only with this ROM, let me know....Doesn't have to be a US AT&T radio.

EDIT: Just kidding....Ugh...I want my reboots to stop! lol
[Atrix 4G Android Development] napsterr:
Am i the only one whos fingerprint navigation doesn't work???

it worked with 2.6.

İs there a way to fix it??

The fingerprint settings have no effect...
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ashad0509:
Thanks...EE, GT, or GT+. I'm going to flash EE and see if my issue goes away....I really don't think its a software issue though, unfortunately
[Atrix 4G Android Development] napsterr:
Wow thx...

NAV ENABLE means.... enable fingerprint navigation.

Now i know it. İ did not change it because i didnt know what it does :)
[Atrix 4G Android Development] xploited:
I think Notorious has disabled navigation in 2.7 by default. Which is great for me personally, since disabling it is the first thing I do after installing a ROM. :D

p.s. updated ICS theme with some fixes will be coming out tonight.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] marcosvafg:
For the records, my random reboots only stops using 2.5 version.

I tried all newer versions and all of them had random reboot problems.

I use 01.07.05p radio but I tried a lot of radios with same problem.

As 2.5 version works great for me and I need to use my phone, I will use 2.5 for long long time.

Thanks!
[Atrix 4G Android Development] xploited:
Have you tried 023 faux kernels?
[Atrix 4G Android Development] NicOsol:
Is there anyway to port this to HTC Incredible S (IncS)?

:D:D
[Atrix 4G Android Development] ashad0509:
I tried 023 kernels and still had the problems.... i'm on the 100 00R radio now and 2.7 EE...been running for an hour with no reboots so we'll see. I was getting reboots on CM9 and NottachTrix though too.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] Formhault:
-.-

Your Virtuous Quattro is much better, even though it's beta. It's the only thing I really miss from the good old days I had HTC. Enough with that; no, there's no way to port this. Well, perhaps someone could do it, but I doubt there's anyone interested & willing to spend time on :) .

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Hope you centered the clock & fixed the issues I explained to you in two PM's :p
[Atrix 4G Android Development] TSever:
Hi All, i am using this rom for five days and its really smoother than original. i have rotation issiu for two days. i have tried accelerometer and it works all games and apps. screen rotating to ls on games. But when i rotate the phone in web browser or home screen, nothing happens (screen doesnt turn ls mod). i tried rotate settings in Settings-cyanogenmod settings-display. But it didn't work.
[Atrix 4G Android Development] r1c47:
Does that include version 2.5p and 2.5p2?