yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] corporal d:
Awesome work guys. I'm a complete rooting/rom noob, but I picked one of these up last night just so I could tinker with it.

Does anyone have a runkeeper apk/version that works? The one I have gives me a library error. Facebook just FC's on a couple different versions I've tried. Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] mvp:
Hi , it seems that the new update is out . Did you try to install it to someone ?
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
tried to update now, device reboot into recovery and stopped.

I was on stock .97
[Other SmartWatches] mitchell4500:
Hi everyone.

Iv messed up. I tried flashing a rom I found over on the Wiki and it kinda worked but didnt... I got into the rom and it was all glitchy so I tried restoring my backup. Didnt work. Now I cant get pass the M bootloader (It dosent start to pulse). I can get into fastboot and I tried reflashing the boot.img with the Motoactv root Tool. No luck.

I dont think I can charge it either because now it still hangs at the M.

So fastboot is still working but Im not sure where to go from here?

EDIT:

So it said it had to low power for fastboot. I almosted died at the thought of having to open it up and pumping juice into the battery. I let it sit for a few min. Tried again. Got into fastboot. Used the Motoactv root tool and selected the restore to stock option. It did all its stuff and now its back to normal. (Well if stock is normal for you).

Now just to let it charge and then re-root. :D
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Good deal. I'm guessing you didn't wipe cache and dalvik before flashing? If you come from from a newer version, it will probably fc on you a lot with the newer data and the older apps.
[Other SmartWatches] dragon_76:
Ugh!

So I was trying to return my MotoACTV to stock and forgot I had lost my system and userdata images from stock. Can someone PM me with them or post them? THX
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
This has been said before. Root tool > return to stock. You don't need any images. They are included.
[Other SmartWatches] dragon_76:
I don't use Windows so the Root tool is worthless to me. I found the system.img on a download site.
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
Right on. do you use wine or crossover?

Sent from my DeathStar disabled device
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I think bda might work on a *nix script set at some point. Was that still on the agenda?
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
wasnt sure the need past me. At some point I can work on one, if its needed
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
No doubt. I wonder if the tool would run through wine?
[Other SmartWatches] suunnittelija:
HTC Desire with MildWild CM 3.7 rom

I'm still using a stock rom 4.55.97 and now planning to root, but I noticed that 4.56.97 version is out. Any experience of rooting this latest version?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
This thread is mainly on rooting the MOTOACTV. Your post in the other thread will suffice. :)
[Other SmartWatches] Zacolo:
Motoactv usb host support

Does the MOTOACTV hardware support USB host mode? Can it function under Gingerbread?
[Other SmartWatches] Prack:
16gb vs 8gb

Hi guys,

Wife has given me the ok to buy either the 8gb or 16gb. I read this whole thread and the custom rom thread. I also checked out the wiki.

My question is does the base rom released work with the 16gb? I see most development was done on the 8gb so should I go with that? I would prefer to get the 16gb if possible but don't want to limit myself in the future with the development community.

Any feedback ASAP would be great. Excited to order this thing.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Most development is for the 8 gig model. I don't own a 16, and I'm pretty sure none of the other devs do either lol.

And I'm not sure of it could handle USB host mode. That would take a LOT of modification.
[Other SmartWatches] Prack:
That's very disapointing. I would have enjoyed the extra storage space :( I guess the 8gb it is.

Thank you for the answer.
[Other SmartWatches] dragon_76:
Stock Recovery?

I have been using the CWMR recovery and I am wanting to return to stock and upgrade to the newest Blur version. I used a friend's PC to restore to stock with the root tool. But, adb is enabled by default and this means I cannot use the motocast software. If I install anything to turn off adb, the update won't work because the system has been altered. Any help?
[Other SmartWatches] mitchell4500:
Just installed boat browser from amazon.

Its great!

Via watch
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
The return to stock feature is not a an actual return to stock ...you altered the boot img and thats one of the reasons you cant..even if we do get a new boot img i doubt motorolas servers will recognize our device
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
This has been said a million times before already, but once you root, you cannot update any longer. The only thing I can think that hasn't been tested is to "Adb shell stop adbd" before returning to stock. The boot image in the stock button is re secured with no Adb. It is straight from the ota update for 4.55.78 with no modification. We are still not sure why exactly we are unable to update even after returning to stock, but the presence of Adb may be it. I am wondering if we will need to format the boot partition first...
[Other SmartWatches] carthique:
Hi ClearD,

Thanks for the awesome work done on this so far. But the not able to update thing looks scary, can you please tell me if and when we will be able to update or will we be able to update at all?

I have become desperate and keep checking the thread for any updates every few minutes :(

Any info on this would help.

Regards

Carthique
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Working on a new rom from the 4.55.97 update now. Not sure when it will be ready yet though... this version is non booting so far. :(
[Other SmartWatches] soskey22:
Hi ClearD i know this has been said a million times before and sorry for my ignorance but my motoactv is rooted and every time i turn off my motoactv and then i turn it on i get a message that says "new software connect to computer to upgrade" also when i conected to my computer and i have adb off motocast recognize my device and everything seems normal, it always ask me if i want to update to the newest version but i always choose later instead of update now cause im afraid i can do the update and i may lost root, and with the newest version i may not be able to root it again. i have the version 4.55.78 i have different launchers including the stock launcher and i have all the stock features like fm radio mp3, notification workout etc, and also i have go luncher, adw launcher android apps etc.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
It wont let you update at all. The update requires the stock recovery for one thing, and once you root, that is replaced with clockworkmod. So in short, even if you try to update, it will fail and not update. I hope that helps some. :)
[Other SmartWatches] fibroman:
Hi. I am not sure if this is helpful to anyone, but if you install clockwork rom manager , you can then easily reboot into recovery straight from the watch, without having to first link to a computer with adb.

The prerequisite for this is that you are already rooted with the latest recovery installed.

I did NOT flash clockworkmod recovery first in the rom manager,as I am not sure if that would cause problems, and it turns out it is not necessary to do so.

This helps me out alot as I quite often find adb to be finicky and now I can backup or restore on the fly from anywhere.
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
What is the procedure to do that?

NA
[Other SmartWatches] suunnittelija:
Oh great... I do have 16gb device and I thought rooting works.
[Other SmartWatches] tomongous:
RE: 16GB Model MotoACTV

I bought the 16GB model MotoACTV and was on 4.56.something originally and followed the procedure that CMW.me had listed for the 8GB model-- and using Jay's EasyModder Script to help with some things and I was successful. I think it will depend on what version you're starting from... the fastboot 3.11 is probably also a good indicator that it will work from all I've read. It's worth a try especially if you know you can return it if you have issues. It worked out very nicely in my case, but I have seen others that have not on this thread.

Good luck.
[Other SmartWatches] Prack:
I know you can root the 16gb and get cwm recovery working but does other features like USB host mode work? I was told that it wouldn't. Also my fear is that when custom roms/kernels do come out that they will not support the 16gb model if the two are that different. It would be helpful to know what exactly are the differences between the two other than the system file and the storage size. I haven't ordered my motoactv yet but am leaning towards the 8gb just because the devs are using it. I still would really love to have the 16gb though :(
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Grab the rom manager.apk, put it on the watch, install.

It's in the Market
[Other SmartWatches] sargist:
some questions

Hi everyone, I'm writting from México, I just bougth one of this MotoActv 8Gb models after I watched a youtube video, 30 minutes ago someone told me about a forum to follow intruction for rooting, and I've done it.

Now I just have some doubts and I would really appreciate it if you could help me:

1-I've noticed that when I connect the device to the computer its no more recogniced as a usb external memory, so since I'm a little bit less than a noob in these matters I found myself confuced, is this situation permanent as long as the device is rooted?

2.-I really would like to use the gps in the MotoActv as a car gps, but googlemaps need an internet conection, so... Is there a way to download the maps to the internal memory of the motoactv so y don't need to stay connectec to the internet???

I know maybe I'm asking for too much, but I hope you can give me some direction

Thanks in advance!!!

Neoxxtreme
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
1- You need to stop ADB either manually or better yet through the excellent MotoACTV Easy Modder V1.2 by Jay4255.

2-In google maps there is a lab option to download a 1 mile diameter of offline maps from a current point, you can do it for as many points as you need.

NA
[Other SmartWatches] sargist:
Thank you very much!

I will try that later and report what happens.

Another question, can I stop and start the adb thing from the same program?
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
Reboot device to start ADB

NA
[Other SmartWatches] MadFlava:
Is the latest version out yet in the form of a flashable rom or can I accomplish the same thing rooting the device?

I wish there was an all in one post about this device. I really want to get mine rooted for nothing other than Spotify.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
There is one...

MOTOACTV.wikispaces.com
[Other SmartWatches] MadFlava:
Thanks!

I had looked at that page earlier, I just didnt have time to really go through it. Couple of questions.

1 - Is it as easy as it looks?

2 - Are there any downsides to rooting?

3 - Will my device work as it did before for the fitness stuff?

4 - Spotify work in offline mode?

Thanks :D
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
1. Yes.

2. You won't be able to update the device afterwards.

3. Yes.

4. Don't know. :)
[Other SmartWatches] nosit1:
#4 - Yes, although I did have some issues with syncing the songs.
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
1-it depends upon your previous knowledge of rooting.

2-yes, you could brick your device and currently you lose the ability to upgrade through Motocast for the official Motoactv updates.

3-Yes.

4- I don't know..

NA
[Other SmartWatches] soskey22:
google maps no necesita internet, solo para buscar ciertos restaurantes pero el gps no necesita internet, tambien puedes bajar copilot aplicacion. google maps does not need internet only to look for places by name. gps does not use internet. also you can install the usa and mexico maps in in your sd card
[Other SmartWatches] MadFlava:
Is there any way to restore it to factory so you CAN upgrade? They seem to push updates out pretty regular for this thing.
[Other SmartWatches] sargist:
Entiendo que necesita internet porque si le doy la instrucción de ir por ejemplo a Acapulco desde el Df (puntos lejanos entre sí) para que me vaya mostrando por dónde voy en el mapa satelital por ejemplo requiere internet para descargar temporalmente esas imágenes no?

De cualquier manera ya lo solucione instalando Sygic y los mapas completos de México. ;)

Saludos
[Other SmartWatches] fernandoavc:
As I did this question before I know the answer:

Once you root it you will not be able to update anymore.. There's no turning back until now...
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
Motorola response to Motoactv rooting

Here is Motorola's response to the update problem for rooted devices:

----------------

simx said:

Do we understand from this post that Motorola will punish anyone who commit the ultimate sin of rooting by not being able to upgrade forever?

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Am I to understand from this post that you feel Motorola should have an update path to suit whatever software variation someone can dream up?*

It's not a punishment. It's a technical limitation. We can test our software update process based on everyone having the same software now. Once owners make changes to that, the pieces we are trying to add on or alter may no longer fit, as mao and a few others can demonstrate. That's why altering the software is a warranty violation.

You can argue if you like about other methods for upgrading that might change this dynamic, but for now, this is what we have. I recommend mao send his device in for repair where it can probably be flashed to stock so he's back on the upgrade path.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Long story short, you're correct simx. They blocked it. They didn't have to, as is shown by many other phones and devices that are rooted, but can be unrooted to upgrade. It's them screwing with us.
[Other SmartWatches] nosit1:
It's because they want control over the device ultimately. What it really boils down to.
[Other SmartWatches] carthique:
If matt from motorola says that they can probably flash it back to stock then I am sure ClearD and other devs can do it as well. I am sure its just a matter of time!

Keep up the good work guys!
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
If we can get an RUU from them, it's a gg. ;)
[Other SmartWatches] carthique:
oh! :( so you are saying there is no hope if we do not have access to RUU? :(
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Not necessarily.

My guess, they are reading the serial number from some part of the software that we are flashing. Either the boot image, system, or recovery. The problem is, we all have the same ones after we return to stock. So, instead of reading the serial from the device HARDWARE, like they *should* be doing, they're reading multiple devices with the same serial, checking their server, seeing the device already updated, and not letting it happen again.

That's just a theory, but it appears pretty sound.

So, what we would need to do... is figure out a way to either:

A) trick the updater

or

B) grab the updates and apply them by force (which CEnnis91 is doing) ;)
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
Actually CEnnis91 already did, I started with a rooted .87 and now I'm on a stock .97 after flashing his stock zip through recovery.
[Other SmartWatches] carthique:
Yeah! :) saw your reply on the ROM thread. I hope CEnnis91 gets a device to work on this soon.

---------- Post added at 11:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:28 AM ----------

Hey simx, I saw you mention that you flashed stock .97 image, were you able to update motoactv via motocast after this? if not, then we still do not have the solution to serial key issue. Please let me know.
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
I was never able to update via motocast, after I flashed .97 via recovery I tried to update to ver. 6 via motocast, it downloaded the update, sent it to the device then rebooted into recovery and of course stopped.

If we can upgrade to ver 6 the same way we upgraded to ver 5 then we will never need a solution to the serial key issue. Waiting for CEnnis91 for that :))

NA
[Other SmartWatches] chefchuck:
I have a backup of my system I made from fastboot back in January, I too was getting the serial number error. I would like to try the upgrade through motoactv, but I have since flashed the CM Recovery. If the serial is being read from system then I should be good, but I can't test it as I don't have a backup of the boot/recovery. Does anyone have a stock boot.img?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Root tool > Return to Stock.

Flashes stock system.img, recovery.img, and boot.img, then clears cache and data.

system and recovery were pulled from a device, boot image was pulled from the OTA update to .78.

I think I will need to rewrite the script though, so that it formats the boot partition before flashing...
[Other SmartWatches] oz73942:
o_O, just got done reading the entire thread + the wiki. Amazing how far this how come.

Although I still have some questions.

ClearD I was curious if it is possible to root once upgraded to the newest software that just came out this month? I currently have .78 installed and reallly want to root, but with the new update including weight training I am practically drooling for it.

If not possible to root is there a possibility that I could help you find a way to root once I upgrade to the new version. Such as sending you any images, files, etc.

2. I had a crazy Idea for the actv. Since I'm rocking the droid 4 I can use motoactv for the calls and texts, but I would love to be able to actually answer calls on it or reply to texts. If the software could be modified to allow the calls to be answered via bluetooth like a headset on the actv and then routed through this bad boy:

cellphoneshop.net/mimiandspfor.html?CAWELAID=507295238

To be able to answer on the motoactv and use it to talk through while the cell remains in the pocket would be pretty awesome.

If anyone thinks this might be possible I would be willing to put some funding behind it.

P.S. I will start to trickle in some donations to the four who helped this get where it did. You'll be first ClearD, sent a small one for now ;)
[Other SmartWatches] xfans:
It does not have enough features for me to use it over my phone
[Other SmartWatches] bdaman80:
Funny thing is they released the entire source code for the build. Not just the kernel like all Droid makers are supposed to do. They give all the drivers and files to make your own aosp build.

But yet not update if you take it. :(
[Other SmartWatches] elkay:
Not getting an official update doesn't bother me as long as an unofficial upgrade path comes along eventually. I don't see the problem with them denying the update if you've modded the phone as long as they make a way to unofficially build it and apply it yourself.
[Other SmartWatches] droidhackzor:
just a simple app question

okay, i'm not new to rooting or anything, however, since i recieved the motoactv, i have actually been pleased with it for the most part. before i commit to rooting my device, i would like to see if anyone has installed the "adidas MiCoach" app, i realize that even if it works, it may not be an ideal app.

the reason i ask is because currently, i am using both for running, adidas' more for the statistics and clarity of coaching, instead of moto's bland "okay i finished this, press the button". but use the motoactv for tracking gps and so on.... yes, im aware that the phone app does this. and the (Iphone app has hrm & pod) not going to go there.

if i can at least start the Micoach app on the motoactv, then i would have every reason to "get lost" in my runs. the coaching from adidas and the gps/hrm/pod/google music all on one device.

NOTE: i know there are other apps listed as working, but im preferencial to adidas(and if posible in concert with moto) as it's available either on the market and elsewere, would someone who has already rooted kindly try it before i commit?
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Alright, I have made a donation to Jay, Utkanos and ClearD as I said I would, great job guys! CEnnis will definitely get one as well when the rom comes out

ClearD, you've been giving continual support to this neat little device. I'll send you a bit more in the near future.
[Other SmartWatches] kensikora:
Thanks for all the hard work, this is awesome!

So now that my device is rooted and running Zeam, how do I get access to the regular Android settings menu instead of the Motoactv settings menu? I can't add wifi networks from here, or anything else I'm trying to do.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
You need an app that creates shortcuts. I've heard anycut works, I personally just use launcher pro. The dock in launcher pro allows you to use "activities" as shortcuts. So my dock is like my settings manager now. For a visual you can watch here and go to about 25 seconds in.

To setup long click on a dock icon, go to shortcuts, then activities. In there you'll find settings. In settings there are a ton of different settings, motoactv settings are mixed in with stock android settings. Find one that says wireless and networks or something similar and tap on it. Give it a try, if it's the wrong one, try again. You'll find there's more than one of each setting.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
In addition, I forgot to add it... but WiFi manager will be included in my next rom, whenever I can bust out a build that works like the first one did... :confused:
[Other SmartWatches] simx:
As for " To be able to answer on the motoactv and use it to talk through while the cell remains in the pocket would be pretty awesome"

You can already do that now, I even have an Iphone and still I can take the calls on the Motoactv, answer them , talk through the earphones while the iphone is in my pocket, of course with an android phone you can also receive texts and other added functions.
[Other SmartWatches] galatians51:
OK, I am stuck. I wanted the stock experience again and deleted all of the apps I had through Zeam's uninstaller, including Zeam. Then I realized the buttons were still mapped so I went in and tried the "return to stock" option using the PC. Even though I can get into fastboot, it sits and is waiting for the device. I can't get in through ADB, and even Motocast won't come up. Is there some sort of trick I can do for the PC to pick up the device? It seems that nothing will recognize it now...
[Other SmartWatches] Jeff:
MicroSD

I've read through the forum and read the Wiki, but still curious to know what type of SD this device will take. Mine is in the mail, but I am curious to know what MicroSD I should buy for it and where it goes, under the back-plate? Will it take a 32GB MicroSD? Sorry if these questions are NOOB-y, thanks for your responses...

I am thinking that this thing does not have an external sd port :( I see no mention of it in the user guide! 8GB is it... no?
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
This device does not support external sd ...
[Other SmartWatches] NORCALkID:
Make surebyoir device is charged and just flash your system.img through fastboot mode
[Other SmartWatches] oz73942:
I had a feeling you could, but I haven't been able to get it to do it. I only get the silence option regardless of whether the earphones with a mic are plugged in or not. When I check the bluetooth on the phone it says paired but not connected yet I'm still getting messages, weather, and the option to silence calls on the actv and the software on the phone for the actv is reporting that it is hooked up.

What is your setup? actv bluetoothed to your phone and the earphones in the actv?
[Other SmartWatches] galatians51:
I can't get it to be recognized by any of the tools, adb, or motocast, or as an external drive on the PC...
[Other SmartWatches] droidhackzor:
galantians51:

if you have rooted the device using the methods in this forum, you likely need to use adb or a terminal emulator if you have a different launcher installed to run one, and stop the adbd service on the device.

only then will your device be readable.

your post says adb won't read it, are you sure your rooted and went through the guides posted all over the boards?

what curcomstances lead to your device not being read?