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[Galaxy S I9000 General] SlvrWolf~XP:
The SGS is almost 2 yrs old,so I'm assuming Samsung might have given up on us.But then again,till it's confirmed,nobody can know for sure.Besides,even if the official ICS for SGS is out,we're gonna end using the custom ROM anyway
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
Maybe if we make a few more threads about this we will get an answer? We're probably only 10-20 more threads away if we just keep at it.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] j3tz3:
Hopefully Samsung hears the pleads of i9000 users and gives us an official update so the devs have a Easyer time giving us the roms.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] sh4z:
I will look forward to getting an official answer to this question.. but SlvrWolf~XP makes a good point...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MoneyFace =p:
It will probably be unlikely for Samsung to update our Galaxy S i9000 to ICS since we've already gotten update TWICE (not many phone brand and models got such privilege, Eclair > Froyo > GingerBread). And Samsung may want to make both Galaxy S I and S II (with Nexus S) differentiated so that more people are encouraged to buy the newer phones...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] ke_be:
I think SGS will not get ICS :(

Read today info from Samsung Mobile https://www.facebook.com/notes/sams...ch-upgrade-for-galaxy-devices/328795820483403
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MFire:
Yeah, they just announced on twitter too, seems like Galaxy S is not in the update list.

Well, a port from ICS on the Nexus S should work just fine.

I wonder what their reasons are for not updating the Galaxy S, obviously it's not platform limitations since the Nexus S got it, shame on Samsung, hope they loose lots of costumers .

(BTW I have a Nexus S but I'm pissed for Samsung's attitude!)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
Things is who are they going to lose customers to? HTC and Motorola phones from early-mid 2010 aren't going to get it either. The answer for updates is to get a Nexus phone from...oops.

The whole landscape of branded devices sucks not just Samsung, but I guess 'the grass is always greener' and people will just move to another manufacturer with little or no research into the facts of whether they are actually better for updates or not. If we take a look:

Moto announced a list of devices...not even the Atrix dual-core phone released in early 2011 was included, although it may be added. Anything from 2010 you can probably forget it.

On the HTC side the phone that came out at the same time as the SGS, at least around here, was the Desire. They had a heck of a time getting gingerbread to run on that apparently, ICS is probably out of the question, so no improvement there.

Basically anywhere I look only phones released within the last year are getting ICS officially. The grass isn't always greener, although I suspect many will jump over the fence without taking a very close look. Again the only real answer is a Nexus, unfortunately this iteration is a bit disappointing so myself I'm going to try and hold out for the next one although I admit at this point a year seems very far away.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] avatar_43:
and think of it from a business POV st's not good business practice to have complete support for an old platform, I mean look at MS the ONLY reason they still support XP is because of businesses, though that's slipping away furthermore 2 year contracts are common place for phones nowadays due to most being smartphone related so people who own the SGS back in 2010 are now due for an upgrade anyway so it won't bother the main bulk of consumers.

Personally I'm planning on waiting it out for the SGSIII so regardless the i9000 gets it for most is irrelevant.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mermigas:
Not a surprise for me and I don’t care what Sammy is doing.

Long live CM9 :D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alinescoo:
Well the thing is not other do... the thing is Galaxy S is still with a shi#y firmware after all this time. Not even on its "death" there is not a stock rom to make it perform as it should. Cmon' take a look at CM7... now imagine a Samsung built ROM based on it, even with all that crappy TouchWiz.. great camera, 720p recording, great battery life, fast as light.

Now... how can I buy another phone from them, knowing that maybe it will never work as it should. When SGS was released everybody said how fast it is, king of the hill... wth, it was crawling... Unfortunately, Samsung has Gorilla glass, has Amoled, low prices.... HTC has gread build quality, no Gorilla, no low prices, high performance....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zbal:
Very disappointed by Samsung.

This is a high end device released in 2010 and already abandoned.

The S1 is perfectly compatible with ICS, this is pure business, or how to force

people to buy a new phone they don't need. Planned obsolescence, just like apple (but even Apple or HTC offer better software support...)

Of course there will be unofficial roms, but imho it's never the same quality as an official one.

Next time i'll choose an official google nexus device.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Criketj:
Samsung forgot his smart baby snif :(

Cyano is here, fortunatly, to give GS1 users a good Ics experience
[Galaxy S I9000 General] greeced:
Samsung lost me as a customer if they choose not to update the SGS. I've already said I'll never buy a Samsung phone in the past because of their lack of support and lack of timely updates, but this now goes to anything Samsung.

I have a Samsung laptop and a Samsung TV, both of which I'll be replacing with a newer model in the coming weeks, but now those replacements will not be Samsung models.

I wouldn't be upset if there was a hardware compatibility issue like lack of memory, but there isn't.

It's perfectly capable. As for this 18 month thing, fine. Let them use that. But my i9000m only has 2.3.3 while the rest of the world has 2.3.6. They stopped updating my phone a long time ago, so they didn't even give me 18 months since they stopped me at 2.3.3 with all it's problems.

HTC even gave some of their older phones gingerbread by scaling down HTC sense to accommodate hardware limitations. Yet Samsung won't with no limitations for ICS.

The Galaxy Nexus was a phone I was thinking about, but no longer. I'm not going to line Samsungs pockets anymore. I'll wait to do my upgrade to the Next Nexus that hopefully will be made by a different manufacturer.

Samsung screwed their update processes with the million incarnations of our phones. Updates are too hard and lengthy for them to complete because of this, so they are taking the easy way out.

Samsungs war with Apple? They just sent a lot of SGS owners their way. At least you know your phone well always get updates provided the hardware is capable, even if they have to scale it down like they did on the 3GS.

I for one will never buy Apple, but count me in the camp of never buying Samsung again too if I don't get ICS officially from them.

My apologies for my rant.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] telep:
Here i come apple, samsung made me to. 3GS is older than sgs and it runs iOS5 from this year. Something android phones can just dream on.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zbal:
I agree with you Greeced.

The SGS has been well maintained to date.

But the samsung's update policy is just catastrophic.

In some countries, people don't even have an official gingerbread update trough Kies.

Samsung sold millions of SGS in the world (the device is still available in most countries). Their policy is unacceptable. And it's too easy to blame the operators.

Next time i'll choose an official google nexus phone (regardless of the manufacturer) because they are always good phones and it's a guarantee to have a long-term support.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] blazevxi:
To everyone that says "x company will lose sales", while that may be true, how many of the millions sold are used by people who have knowledge or interest in the latest android? Many buy the phone and enjoy it and use it, and just don't care or aren't particularly bothered by the update pattern.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cspiby:
What I find amazing is that the Galaxy S Plus isn't even on the list and that's what, 6 months old?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mk_ln:
I believe that is the mentality that they want the market to have...mission complete.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] acid74:
SGS 1 is my very first Samsung device,was about to upgrade my tv to Samsung 8 series. Support given by Samsung to my galaxy s made me think twice about upgrading my tv to Samsung which costs much more than sgs1.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MFire:
As far as I'm concerned I don't have a Samsung phone, I have a Google Nexus.

If I had a Samsung I would have waited for the ICS update a very long time.

Sony Ericsson is updating all their 2011 line-up to ICS with some of their smartphones having less powerful hardware then the Galaxy S.

Now that's like stealing from Samsung.

Sure, they "officially" support Cyanogenmod but have they really done something to support the Cyanogenmod team?!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Lynchy30:
Conflicting reports all over the place, this Samsung official global blog says we will get it.

http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=8894

Lets just wait and see.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zbal:
I don't think that Google prevents any manufacturer to provide OS updates.

I even think that Google has an interest in Android phones to be updated, as the lack of long term support could be a serious disadvantage against apple for some people (including myself).

It is a purely strategic choice from Samsung (you want ICS? Buy a S2)

The SGS is a very good phone, and i'm happy with samsung, but if their policy is to abandon support for older models each time a new one is released, then i'll look for another manufacturer who provides longer support.

The SGS was released in july 2010, but at least half of the 20 million galaxy S in the world have been in sold in 2011. The community will release working ICS roms for the i9000, proving that the portage IS possible, so i'm sorry, i consider this as an epic fail from Samsung.

Christmas is coming and I have to buy a new phone for my wife, but i think it will be an Xperia.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] :
@Lynchy30: unfortunately it doesn't. It says Galaxy S2 and Galaxy note will get the update first and that other Galaxy's will follow. Then it states which models these 'others' are... Galaxy S isn't mentioned.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Lynchy30:
Wont make sense to leave it out, I'm sure it will be upgraded, just wont be the main priority before the others.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] :
I do hope you're right, just aren't really counting on it... :)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] greeced:
Yes, and no. It all breaks down to percentages and word of mouth.

1. A small percentage of total sales live here and will work with custom roms. Others who also live here like me, who like rooting and other tweaks, but love the functionality of stock roms over custom.

2. Yes, there are people that buy the phone and don't care/know about updates. This percentage is increasingly smaller with social media that makes them aware of lack of support.

3. Those same people in number 2 are the ones that buy phones based on what was said to them, or word of mouth. I've given my opinion to 8 people who because of their opinion of my knowledge in various areas, chose this phone over an iphone. That's 9 sales total to Samsung from me alone. Now take those same 8 people, who also may have recommended it to others. And so on. Do you really think these phones sold like hot cakes because of the brand and marketing? Every company knows they have to please only a few people for word to spread.

However what they don't realize is the same spreading of words will be spread in the other direction now and there will be lost potential sales for those who will upgrade in the future, like me and most likely my 8 referrals.

So you're right, many just buy it and use it, but you fail to acknowledge what got them there in the first place.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] hrissstooo:
Samsung UK™ said:

......We will upgrade all Gt-I9XXX series to the Android 4.0 Ice cream Sandwhich in the upcoming period which includes Samsung Galaxy S, Nexus S and Galaxy SII.....
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Lesiroth:
Where was that?

Also, not all manufacturers are as bad as Samsung regarding Android updates. Yes, Motorola is just as terrible, and LG isn't even worth mentioning. But HTC is a bit better in most cases, and their Sense is much better than TouchWiz IMO. and Sony Ericsson promised an update to all their capable phones to ICS, and they even released beta builds of it. My next phone will probably be Sony or HTC.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MasterJam882:
Awesome statement...I couldn't said it better! Thx !

Such a comment should stand in twitter, facebook and so on where it reaches the masses and most important where it reaches Sammy!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Fremen567:
????? It doesn't even mention our phone!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Black Rose:
If they don't make an official release of ICS for the i9000, I sure as hell hope that they at least fix the bugs in the drivers and release a firmware update that any i9000 can use.

If not that, release the source code to the drivers so that the open source community can fix the bugs in the drivers that Samsung does not seem to want to address.

I am 8 months into a 3-year contract on my i9000m....there is no way in hell I am going to drop $600 on a SGS II or a Nexus just so I can get ICS officially from Samsung.

My phone came with Froyo 2.2. Samsung/Bell released UGKG3 (2.3.3) for our i9000m units back in mid-July. There has been nothing since from Samsung/Bell specifically for our phones.

Thankfully we are able to load other official GB firmware on our phones, but they've all got issues due to the various driver issues.

I chose the SGS over an HTC unit....I wonder if I made the right choice...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
Samsung lost their best customer right now. My next phone is xiaomi.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
Yes I caused to buy a samsung android device about 5 - 10 people. Now I will think one more or I will say buy a huawei.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
So I need to be more reach than fanboys to using latest android.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
Your next device will make sad to you. My family has different branded android devices. xperia neo, htc desire s and everyone look my phone as a magic. Yes mine is. Even I don't want to touch their phones. So bad..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
And samsung is rich enough to update their great hummingbirded phone to ics. If stupid xperia mini can be upgraded...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] S3BL104:
Just waiting for official/Unofficial CM9......
[Galaxy S I9000 General] saiff35:
who cares about samsung,onecosmic and teamhackungs had succefully ported ICS to SGS
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zbal:
I do.

With all the respect due to the community, a hacked rom will never be the same quality as an official one.

You cannot do the same job in your garage that the dev team who designed the device.

I know there will be working ICS roms, because this time we're lucky. The Nexus S is very close to the Galaxy S, and this make the portage pretty easy. But what about the next generation of phones if the Nexus 3 isn't manufactured by Samsung (and it won't be a Samsung, most likeley) ?

Above all this shows Samsung's update policy. Very disappointing.

About 10 million SGS were sold this year in 2011, and all of these devices, all of these consumers are already abandoned by Samsung.

I have a galaxy S and a galaxy tab 10.1v, both bought in 2011, and none of them will get ICS released in... 2011.

When I buy a cheap product, I do not expect support. But when I buy an expansive high-end device, which is a great commercial success, then I expect a better and longer support.

As a consumer of hi-tech products, i'm used to planned obsolescence, but in this case, the support provided by samsung is really really too short for me. I'll remeber this when i'll buy a new phone or a new tablet.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] burakgon:
Sorry but interesting.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] cspiby:
The only problem with porting would be that we'd still be using Gingerbread drivers unless we can find an ICS rom with the exact ones we require?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Vogie:
Come on! every year we have a lot of new generation of technology.

when there will be a lot of new phones, how care about a phone from 2010

OR

Just be fun with ICS from awesome customer's developers ;-)
[Galaxy S I9000 General] zbal:
You know, the 100$ ZTE Blade also have custom ICS roms atm ^^

Community devs do an awesome job, that's not the subject.

Thanks to them we'll play with android 4.0 on our phones, but that's not what I expect from a 600$ Samsung phone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] elandune:
bad news :(

but I hope we finally got ICS for our galaxy
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Viketaur:
Tu nous l'a déjà sorti sur le JdG celle-là...

In my opinion there's a reason why xda users will always prefer a custom ROM instead of a stock one. It doesn't depend on who's working on it, some unemployed devs are working harder than Samsung's or any other companies are... Assuming Samsung developers does only implement Touchwiz framework, xda developers are trying to get the best of a system without this framework. That's the difference imo.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] MasterJam882:
I totally subscribe this!

It's not a matter of using 4.0 by devs here on XDA it's a matter of the update policy useres are very upset about.

I'm the customer and I spent a reasonable amount of money for a device and also for a gd support(this belongs inseperable together).

If it would be a device which production was stopped in 2010 then I would maybe say ok.

But the device was still produced and sold in 2011 and the i9003 even came out 2011 with the sgs2 and is supposed to don't get the update aswell.

It's a waste of capabilities and ressources, because these devices could easily handle the update and in fact many won't be used anymore because customers buy the newer devices.

In times of 2-year-contracts, nearly worldwide, the mobile support should be also 2 years long. Google made a big step with the 18 month agreement but it's not working as planned yet I think.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Vogie:
You know, it's company! not Just Samsung! all of them are company so, just think about the Money.

what u expect.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Frml99:
True, I find it very weird that google isnt atleast updating the Galaxy S Plus(9003). Because it's not even a year old. And it takes them more than half a year just updating the galaxy SII to Android 4.0.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] greeced:
A big part of making money are repeat customer dollars. And you're more inclined to buy the same brand based on the experience and support you received.

The whole point here is this. The SGS is 100% capable of running ICS. No hardware issues at all. If there was an issue, then that would be understandable, but there isn't.

Look at it this way. You bought a brand new laptop with Windows vista. A year later Windows 7 appears. Much of the hardware doesn't run optimally now. It's still capable, just needs windows 7 drivers. Could you imagine if the laptop company refused to update drivers just so you'd buy a new laptop?

Samsungs support is horrible. I have stock 2.3.3 and it's never worked right in certain areas. I've emailed Samsung about it, and while they acknowledge the issue, do you think they provided another update? Nope.

This just proves Samsung is all about greed. And as much as I hate Apple, they are sure making Samsung look real bad. I mean they updated the 3GS to ios5, and that phone is way older than the SGS.

Now, when those customers buy a new phone, I'd say they'd stick to Apple because of that type of support.

Bottomline, I'll upgrade when I'm ready, not by Samsung forcing my hand. And if this is how they treat the customers that made them a force and a legitimate competitor to Apple, then no thanks, I'll buy another brand.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] greeced:
Beyond this, I do believe Google should pull the reigns on Android, and eliminate all this fragmentation.

It should be one operating system, provided by Google. Then if the customer wants to maintain a Samsung or Htc experience, they can download touchwiz or sense from the market, and each of these will only run on their respected phones.

Although that will never happen which makes the branded Google experience a terrible one.

That's why when the dust settles years from now, the only android phone that will be left standing is the nexus.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Vogie:
YES u right. it's not new topic.

I don't know. I don't like Samsung support. and just think i like from Apple is that awesome support.

btw, let's be happy to have an Android phone.

when people ask me what is your phone i tell it's Android! who care about Samsung.

I wish Samsung find the right path.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] AllGamer:
on a related topic... the i9000 is not alone

even Google themselves pulled the plug on the Nexus One, citing the Nexus 1 is too old to run ICS 4

and guess what a couple month later Nexus 1 Dev cooked up their own version of ICS 4 that works, before even Galaxy Nexus or Nexus S had it

this just goes to show, no one plans to support phone that are older than 1 generation.

Nexus S will most likely not get a new AOSP upgrade when 2013 comes with Jelly Belly or whatever they are calling the next release.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Saeen:
If my SGS will not be getting ICS, I won't buy another Android device. I'll go for iPhone. Spending 1 time money on iPhone for three years support is better than spending less money on Android every year.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Viketaur:
Is upgrading firmware really important ... ? I mean, your phones does work well with a stock firmware without upgrade logically. iPhone or not, Android or not, that's because you always want more functions that you want to upgrade your phone firmware...
[Galaxy S I9000 General] dangrayorg:
A lot of the blame for the upgrade fiasco can be laid at the door of the carriers too who sit on releases, customize them or don't bother releasing because they know updating isn't a priority to most users . I wouldn't call the SGS badly supported, in fact Samsung updates seem to leak at a phenomenal rate, the frustration is that the updates don't filter through to all users.

That said, this community does not represent the majority of phone users who have no particular interest in updating their phones, particularly given the fact that most Kies updates wipe user data (a phenomena that also affects iPhone users occasionally, as several friends of mine will testify to). Its for us to stay vocal and keep the suppliers honest, otherwise there would be no updates at all!

What is mainly lacking from Samsung is clarity of communication. Is official ICS happening or not?

And as for never buying Samsung again, I'd say apple are the exception rather then the rule when it comes to updates. They maintain a commonality across products that is the antithesis of most manufacturers - for whom a constantly changing feature set, look and feel are key to maintaining turnover.

Remember too, most of us got our phones free or very cheap, not true of an iPhone.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] lycan_codex:
why bother getting support from samsung now...we have two awesome builds of ice cream sandwich...one is CM9 and another one is Onecosmic...the latest RC1 from Oncosmic is damm awesome...this build is what i expect samsung to release...head over to ice cream sandwich build thread folks..
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Saeen:
Yes it is very important. We need refreshed UI, got bored using GB now.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] milro1970:
When I first heard of Android that was the exact thing I thought it would be and unfortunatelly it didn't happened.

Galaxy S is a great phone thanks to XDA Developers with their OC/UV kernels, roms and fixes. If we were depending for support and upgrades only on Samsung... well... let's say that I would gladly go out and byte an Apple!

But, surely, it is not a surpise that samsung don't even bother with their former (just a year ago) flagship. Their minds are set on money and they will give nothing in order to gain everything.