yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Jade Eyed Wolf:
From the video, it appears that this relates to a particular app (mini piano), so in that case, I'm not sure why it's Google's responsibility to improve the responsiveness of a third party piece of software.

That said, there are some very basic reasons for why iOS will invariably be smoother and more responsive than Android almost 100% of the time.

Put simply, iOS and Android both began their respective development at totally different times. Android started development during a time when the market was saturated with keyboard-centric devices like Blackberry's and such. There wasn't a whole lot of touch-screen proliferation, and even then, those devices with touch screens were still very proprietary and basically none of them offered multi-touch. As such, Android was never originally designed for multi-touch screens; that kind of functionality is more of an evolutionary adaptation than anything else really. Android's core design principles focus on multi-tasking and cloud service connectivity in order to maximize productivity. That's why Android has always more effortlessly been good at both of those things.

iOS on the other hand was designed from ground up to be used on a multi-touch user interface. As such, iOS products have been more focused on being UI-centric, while other functions take a lower priority. Basically, when the user interacts with the screen of an iOS device, the system will drop everything it's doing (if need be) just to make sure that the UI runs smoothly. For example, say you try to interact with a webpage as it's loading on an iOS device. The device will actually stop loading the page, as long as you are touching the device to interact with it. As soon as you're no longer touching it, the page will continue to load. This is also why multi-tasking was more of an afterthought than a core principle with iOS. Apple could have easily implemented some form of multi-tasking right with their first iPhone, but considering the resource limitations at the time, that would have come at the cost of an interface that wouldn't have been as smooth or responsive.

So, to sum up:

Generally speaking, iOS will almost ALWAYS have a smoother and more responsive touch interface than Android has (unless Google basically rebuilds Android for touch screens from ground up).

That said, Android will almost ALWAYS be a better at multi-tasking and integrating cloud services than iOS (unless Apple decides to basically rebuild iOS from ground up with a bigger focus on those services).

Which is better than the other? Well, that's up to you really; it's totally subjective. If you want a simple to use UI which is smooth and responsive, then maybe iOS is better suited for you. If a more diverse ecosystem with endless customization options and very powerful multi-tasking beasts are important enough that you can accept a reasonable cost in the UI smoothness, then Android is your best bet.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dreeck:
thank you for taking the time to respond

for this video, I tried a dozen pianos Android and I chose the one with the least latency.

The latency of Android is a real handicap. I am shocked that no one cares.

For my part I think this problem is caused by drivers

I know this is not comparable, but on PC there is ASIO4All, a pilot able to remove this latency (but just for Audio).

I have a Galaxy Note and I hope that Google will improve this problem.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] disconnecktie:
The reason Google hasn't fixed this issue is because in order to fix this issue the Android UI would have to be completely reprogrammed to accommodate a fix. If they reprogram in that manner then it would basically make every device after the reprogram a legacy device and every application would have to be rewritten.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dreeck:
"If they reprogram in that manner then it would basically make every device after the reprogram a legacy device and every application would have to be rewritten."

So if I understand it, Android will stay soft?

I am shocked to hear that. If true, I would not give much of its future.

Some applications are unusable with this latency, Apple can rest wisely. this is sad.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] disconnecktie:
I read about it in an article from an interview with an ex Google employee. He said that a complete rewrite of the OS would have to take place
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dreeck:
Thank you for this information.

But in this article it says that ICS has undergone a complete rewrite. What do you think ?

http://www.brucebnews.com/2011/10/new-iphone-new-android-phones-new-windows-phones/
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] AMoosa:
you should read record this video using a galaxy nexus. There is a lot less latency than you show on your video using 'mini piano lite '
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dreeck:
It is impossible that you have touched an iPhone, otherwise you would not say that.

Everything I touch on my note have latency compared to the iPhone. And whatever the rom flashed.

To prove that I am not the only one to rave :

http://www.musiquetactile.fr/android-is-far-behind-ios/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
This guy is awesome to watch. He has to be the best no nonsense reviewer out there. He is also pretty entertaining to watch. Does anyone else ever watch his youtube videos?

He has done some pretty good reviews for the Epic Touch by the way. That is how I found him.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluv4eva:
I watch his videos. He keeps it real. I agree.

Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
Link?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
Flossy carter

http://www.youtube.com/user/FLOSSYCARTER
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kanyewest:
Letting floss do xda reviews...?? Its a go
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
He's good.

His videos are straightforward and succinct.

Is he still with Beyoncé?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
I agree, this guy is awesome to watch... Lol. Rollin' in his lexus.. Haha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I thought the videos were good too. This phone is definitely a major "go" lol

The guy has every device out there
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
I loved watching his newest vid of the Gnex camera, when he pans around his car and all those devices are laying around, or are mounted on his dash:

It's like: Android, Android, Tablet, Android, Iphone, Iphone, Android, Android, and so-on....

And I thought I had a problem.

Also, upon watching a lot of his videos, I have to say that I really like them.

"He's a Go!"

:-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
so should I get a phone that is a go or a major go?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
I think one of his videos: (The one on the Samsung "Player" 5.0" device) actually got my daughter to quit her crying about not having an ipod touch "like all her friends have". I will be more than happy to get her this cheaper, larger, better device that I actually know how to use.

So, dude has already solved a problem for me AND saved me a little money, too.

Subscribed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] IIDIncII:
So is the Galaxy Nexus worth rooting right now? I understand when i root everything will be wiped. So im just wondering should i root now? I'm not seeing any ROMs thats catching my eye. Maybe when Cyanogen comes with a official ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brandonyoung:
It's not rooting that wipes, your phone, it is unlocking the bootloader that does it. But unlocking the bootloader is needed to root. So that's being pedantic.

If you plan on staying with stock, but being rooted, then you should do it before setting up anything on your phone, because you will have to redo everything.

If you are planning on flashing a new ROM anyway, then I don't think it matters because most new ROM installations I've seen tell you to do a wipe anyway.

But I would suggest rooting the first thing, just so you can install titanium back up. This will let you restore app data after flashing a new ROM. Unless you enjoy replaying all 100+ Angry Birds levels and re-earning whatever achievements that you spent hours earning.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dspcap:
Being able to use Titanium backup and doing backups in CWM is worth it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
I don't see a need to rush out and root.

Custom roms are still in their infancy. Google seems to be pushing updates pretty quickly too. Custom roms still aren't perfect yet.

There are launchers and mods that seems pretty cool but thats up to you. I know once I start down the dark path of flashing... I won't come back. So I'm sticking to stock for a while until Google calms down on the updates.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
So of course I had to get a Galaxy Nexus. After having stared at its unimaginative statusbar icons for a few days, I felt there was a certain, circular aspect missing from its UI, so I took a deep breath and fired up Photoshop. I've kept the style similar to my previous versions of CirclesMod, but the icons are completely redrawn to make use of the Nexus' higher display resolution, and also incorporating some of my ideas from the Galaxy Tab 10.1.

Looks like this ...

The most convenient way to get the Mod is via the Play Store, if you're running CyanogenMod 9, AOKP, Gummy or another ROM that incorporates the CM9 Theme Engine... I'm in the process of converting my themes to this format.

http://c0.dk/cmicsblue

My website holds all other versions, and I encourage you to bookmark this link, if you want to keep track of my Galaxy Nexus downloads :)

http://circlesmod.dk...?s=dl&vl=gnexus

Disclaimer zero: I'm pre-supposing that you already know what to do with flashable zips, and that you accept responsibility for your own actions. Use your head, keep your device backed up and so on and so forth

Disclaimer one: You're welcome to modify or repurpose my work as long as it's not generating income and I'm credited with a link to either http://circlesmod.dk or this thread.

Disclaimer two: As for updates and versions, I'm not gonna do massive change logs and follow seven forums to cover the "market". I can't and won't spend all my waking hours building for any and every half-hourly KANG out there, so I'm inclined to pick one or two major ROMs and support that... I'm inclined to spend most of my time maintaining my Play Store theme(s) as it allows me to hit the greatest amount of devices with the least amount of effort...

Disclaimer three: I have the European GSM variant, also known as Maguro. Assume that my builds are for the GSM version. When in doubt, ask.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] flyingcowofdoom:
This looks awesome. I am too nervous to try it on Android Revolution HD 2.1.0 but if anyone else gets it working let me know!

--FCOD
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NitrozKC:
And Hooolm arrives. Welcome mate, great jobs :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
I'm probably gonna try out Revolution too...I'm holding out for them fixing that reboot-while-plugged-in-equals-sleep-of-death-bug :)

Long term? Oxygen or CyanogenMod. In that order :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NitrozKC:
Don't go out of your way to support ALL the ROM's because I can guarantee alot more ROM's coming soon. I'm sticking with supporting MoDaCo (Which I'm doing now) and Android Revolution.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Big-A-Rob:
Awesome, I loved your work on the SGT. Going to try this out on Android Revolution 2.1.1. That has been my favorite ROM so far.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Big-A-Rob:
Looks to be working pretty good on Android Revolution 2.1.1. This does have the search and menu button mod from Modaco for anyone wanting to flash this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mklass:
Just installed this on Madaco's IR6. Also I'm using BRD Launcher 2.0 which is optimised for 240 DPI and it works great. One thing i have noticed is that when charging the yellow lightning bolt flashes twice displaying the percentage in-between very second. (Not sure if thats a feature or a bug) just thought i'd mention.

Is there any chance we could get a modded airplane symbol to?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] minooch:
Hooolm,

What app are you using to extract, zip, decompile & compile the apk.

Tried apktool yesterday, but had lots of troubles.

Wouldn't mind using it on 74K :D

Cheers,

Minooch
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
Oh, I won't :) Since there isn't a stock Samsung or stock Sense ROM for the Nexus lines, people will tend to gravitate towards something like CM9, which suits me juuuust fine :)

Thanks man...much appreciated.

Yeah, that was just part of the particular framework I baked for myself at modaco.com. Somehow I didn't think I'd like having my main action buttons jump around on me :)

As for AndroidRevolution, I'm a little bit intimidated by ROMs that want to completely reformat my device. I like having an easy exit strategy...having said that, people seem to be very content with that ROM.

Sure, although creatively there isn't much to do with that except slap an airplane over a circle :)

As for the charging flashing pattern, you're right - the xml is a leftover from one of my galaxy tab themes, where the lightning bolt would flash over the numbers like this...

That effect doesn't really work with the ICS overlay, it's just that one little thing I forget to change every time I build :rolleyes:

Hey:)

I'm using APK Multi-Tool, specifically the nightly builds downloaded from GitHub. Works straight out of the box, just remember to register framework-res.apk, even though most of the magic is in SystemUI.apk.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leoaudio13:
Please make it available for 4.0.3 Galaxy Nexus GSM :o. This is super cool!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
Thanks man :)

I'll build for AndroidRevolution, when 2.1.2 drops.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Deleted member 3693611:
i am using bixies 4.0.3 rom deodexed will this work`?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
I would be thoroughly surprised.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jimyen:
I tried with 4.0.3, booted but SystemUI FC, so it doesn't work.....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] minooch:
Thanks Hooolm, I will give it a shot tomorrow (today technically) at work :)

Found out about having to register framework-res the hard way.

If I get it working, are you cool with me using your pics for bigxie's 4.0.3? It's your work, so your call :D you could put it in your op if you like. This is *if* my brain doesn't fail me
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] arlindemini:
Works great on Android Revolution HD 2.1.1 LTE (4.0.2), Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jayxpx:
im assuming this is flashed through CWM? I am running Revolution HD 2.1.1 LTE and want to load this badly! love the way it looks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
Yeah sure :)

My base attitude there is, people are welcome to modify or repurpose my work as long as it's non-commercial and I'm credited with a link to either http://circlesmod.dk or this thread.

I've built one on the 2.1.1 framework.

CirclesMod_GNexus_AndroidRevolution_211_b001-signed.zip

Thanks for the screen, I think I need to do the alarm icon :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
This is for stock, deodexed IML74K, based on bigxie's release 2.

Does someone have the stones to try it out?

CirclesMod_GNexus_IML74K_b001-signed.zip
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FatherD:
A little custom job!!

@Hooolm

cheeky question of the day!

I hope not too cheeky .. I absolutely love this circle set, and to finish off the look of my MCR Ir10 I wanted to incorporate some modded Soft Keys.

Being a bit of a coding numpty - I have no intention of messing with your mod to incorporate the changes .. would you be willing to work up an Ir10 compatible zip, with the attached icons worked into the systemui.apk?

Here is a mock up (very badly spaced!) of how the edited .pngs should display!

Please!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Reppu:
Allright, i have the answer for this

I have flashed Manhattan IC02 (latest release) and immediately afterwards Circlesmod. The mod is accepted just fine and works flawlessly. The problem is that it overrides some of the ROM features:

- no more battery bar

- no more clock customizations (center, left, hidden)

- no more customizable status bar opacity

So basically this is it, we are down to choose between status bar customization vs the best indicators available. Of course, the best would be to be able to choose Circlesmod from the ROM menus, but that is up to the ROM owner and i do not think it will happen.

For the moment, i will keep circlesmod installed, i love it so much.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Reppu:
Hello there

I don't mean to interfer in someone else's business, but what you request is very easy to do by yourself. Just check this thread, there is all the info you need: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1413582
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FatherD:
Many thanks

Will give that a try :-)

Edit: Ah... I was aware of the thread you posted up, but the circles mod is a signed zip - I have tried a few methods with signed zips before and had nothing but headaches. I simply would like my own custom soft keys worked into a zip compatible with MCR Ir10.. Hopefully someone with the right tools and knowledge can help!?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] darkrangr:
will CirclesMod_GNexus_AOKP_maguro_AOKP_019_b001-signed.zip

work on toro 19? im not seeing any toro downloads at all :/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zombieflanders:
Unfortunately, since Hooolm only has a maguro device, you'll have to either test it out yourself or send him the unmodified SystemUI.apk and framework-res.apk from the toro version of the ROM. It may work, it may not. But, hey, that's what nandroids and Titanium are for, amirite?

FWIW, I'm running the CDMA Revolution ROM and installing the appropriate mod worked for the most part.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PhaedraCorruption:
One of the files I had before was working in CM9 Kang, but now it just says system UI has crashed upon boot if I try to flash it.

Do any of the newer versions work on CM9?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
I typically don't download a ROM of my own volition unless I plan on trying it out it myself. Hence the favoring of maguro ROMs. For some reason all the free servers hosting most ROMs are currently unbearably slow - as explained elsewhere I simply can't be arsed to wait up to 40 minutes for a ROM download, when the build itself takes me 2-8 minutes :)

That's constructive advice right there ;)

There is no "CM9", here are alpha KANGs of the CM9 source. You'll need to be a bit more specific.

You're not bad yourself :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] monkey hung:
If the Android Revolution 2.1.2. circles mod works fine, is there any point installing the 2.1.4. version?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
Hard to say. I always build a fresh one if the affected files aren't identical. Probably won't make a difference, because in my experience it typically either works or blows up instantly :)

One example of an exception was a build for AOKP, where Roman had introduced a change in the statusbar layout that I wasn't aware of. My mod worked until I received an email, at which point SystemUI force closed. Our phones are frail, temperamental 3 year olds :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Daveg891:
Hi all,

Is there a way to return to stock after applying this mod? I just wanted the battery mod, not all the other circles.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tree of Knowledge:
Do any of these work for the AOKP toro builds?

EDIT: Ignore this post, found the answer, sorry!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanly23:
Hi there, running rooted stock 4.0.2 CDMA ICL53F. I am including my systemui.apk and am wondering if you would be able to take a stab at porting your circle mod for those of us on stock.

thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PhaedraCorruption:
I am referring to this one:

http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/skankwich/?id=maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] monkey hung:
Yeah I need this one too. The CM9 Kang. I couldn't find one on your site.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SlavaS_71:
Please make it available for Apex v1.0.0
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FatherD:
Circles & custom soft keys

After some time.. I managed to work up a flashable zip with Hooolm's excellent Circle mod.. and some soft key icons worked up from scratch. Will post the soft keys in that thread when I get some time. If anyone would like the icons to use in a theme etc, pm me... happy to oblige!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nunggg:
please mod circlesmod for AOKP build 21 please :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
AOKP build 21

GSM (maguro): CirclesMod_GNexus_AOKP_maguro_021_b001-signed.zip (undo)

CDMA (toro): CirclesMod_GNexus_AOKP_toro_021_b001-signed.zip (undo)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanly23:
I may have been wrong but I thought your post above for the CDMA version should have worked on my version. Build ICL53F stock rooted. If I was wrong in that, accept my apologies...I am relativly new to this. At any rate I flashed the toro version and lost both my soft buttons at the bottom and the entire notfication bar at the top. Got it back by reverting back to my nandroid backup.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Reppu:
Hooolm, i saw you're still doing versions for different ROMs on demand. If that's so, could you please create one for Codename Android ROM 1.2.0?

I just can't live without this mod, in any ROM. Everytime i see the stock icons i get sick.

Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCX Designs:
Hoolm, any chance we can get this in green like you did with your Ginger circles on UOT kitchen?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] westholma4t:
Will CirclesMod_GNexus_AOKP_maguro_milestone02_b001-signed.zip work on milestone 3?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
I really can't do nightlies. It's simply too much work.

Next post

Always.

Yeah, the AOKP versions are for the AOKP ROM. AOKP generates the soft buttons by code, not xml, so that's pretty much incompatible with everything else.

I don't have anything for stock rooted ICL53F. I guess one of the MoDaCo builds would work on a GSM phone, but since you tried downloading a toro version, you probably have a CDMA phone :-/

I've tried (next post). The statusbar layout XML is somewhat different from what I've seen before. I've got a good think going with AOKP, and I'm not gonna flash CNA just to build for it :) I don't think my zip is gonna break anything, but if it looks hinky, please post a screenshot, so I can try and retrace the problem. Thanks.

I'm planning on it, but the icons are the least of my worries. Re-coloring the rest of the framework and the associated system apps fills me with horror. So...I'm waiting for a completed CM9 with its new theming engine.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
Apex 1.0.0

GSM/Maguro: CirclesMod_GNexus_Apex_maguro_100_b001-signed.zip (undo)

CDMA/Toro: CirclesMod_GNexus_Apex_toro_100_b001-signed.zip (undo)

CodeNameDroid 1.2.0 (GSM/Maguro)

CirclesMod_GNexus_CodenameDroid_maguro_120_b001-signed.zip (undo)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Reppu:
Flashed it (the one for Bigxie), and it breaks everything bad. I get an error message on the screen related to the launcher unable to start. There's an "accept" button but the screen does not take any tactile input, and the side buttons don't work either. I had to pull the battery.

Then i tried the release for MoDaCo and the OS doesn't even care to start, all i got was a black screen. Had to pull battery again.

So the mod is a no go in this ROM. I am very very sad right now.

EDIT: just saw your release from a few minutes ago. YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!! Can't test it now but i will do it when i arrive home this afternoon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Hooolm:
AOKP Milestone 3 GSM/Maguro

CirclesMod_GNexus_AOKP_maguro_milestone03_b001-signed.zip (undo)

AOKP Milestone 3 CDMA/Toro

CirclesMod_GNexus_AOKP_toro_milestone03_b001-signed.zip (undo)

Milestone 3 contains an option to select a "CircleMod" battery.

This set isn't mine, to be clear. Mine will appear in the next version
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sert00:
hoolms.....can you build that for manhattan?;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Reppu:
Just flashed it. Apparently flawless in Codename ROM. Everything is right now in my little inner world.

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