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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ciscoheat9:
Thanks for the good luck...I may need it. I didn't call them as the store was already closed, but I did ask the "online chat" sales team if they had it at the stores. She said yes, but I don't completely trust her. I'll keep you all posted though.

SB
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mca312:
My current solution until the 3 pin dock is available.

I have a normal holder for my Nexus. I put a NFC tag on the holder that will launch a Tasker task. The conditions are, NFC tag must have enabled it, power must be on, and audio must be plugged in. This will launch my music app (option for pandora). If the device is also sideways, it will launch the navigation app.

I'm going to see how well this works until the 3 pin dock is available.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CyberPunk7t9:
If you're talking about this one:

http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-google-galaxy-nexus-vehicle-mount-225505/

Then the reason is the pins being in a different line up between the GSM and the LTE versions.

Which means both GSM and LTE users need two different revisions of the car dock with charging/audio capabilities.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nduanetesh:
Earlier in this thread, a user who owns both the LTE and GSM versions took a whole pile of pics and measurements of the two phones, and it looks like the pins are actually in the exact same spots on both phones. Others had said they weren't based on some pre-release, prototype photos (and a similar graphic to the one posted above). But with two phones in the wild, in a user's hands, they seem to be exactly the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pureazian626:
Samsungs official position?

Samsungs FAQ says ECS-K1F8BEG is the official supported mounting solution for the i515. I basically see it as "cdma gNex wont fit gsm accessories"

I cant post links yet:

samsung.(com)/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00045395&fm_seq=46045
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brownel02:
I REALLY hope there is more to it than just making a new mold with the pins slightly offset to accomodate the VZW version.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheWenger:
That would be very very not cost efficient for the manufacturer if that was the case.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lostinacrowd:
Someone already pointed out that that picture is no good. The pins DO line up from GSM to CDMA phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rizzxx7:
I wouldn't doubt what expansys said on their website, they would sell a lot more if it did truly line up
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rookie_One:
I confirmed it from bell, its the same as the fommy one

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Spir`.:
Hi,

I don't understand why you're all talking about the "European" version since it's not available anywhere.

I live in France and I'm very interested in getting this dock but it's not on sale yet, unless I missed something.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Nothing is confirmed until you actually see it. The folks at Bell don't have a clue.

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Nope, you didn't miss anything. It is not available anywhere. People are getting ahead of themselves.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rookie_One:
I saw it at a bell store, we opened it and it was pretty much the same one as the verizon one

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Was it a Bell store, or was it a Bell dealer store? I call a few Bell stores (not dealers) here in Montreal every few days, including the flagship store, and none of them have it, and they still don't know when they will get it. I just called the flagship store this morning, and same answer: No, we don't have it. We have no idea when it will be coming.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HybridByNature:
This is getting kind of ridiculous. How hard is it to accommodate a $600+ phone with decent accessories. I read through all 34 pages of this thread in hopes that someone knew something that I didn't. I've been looking for a dock that wasn't POS since I got the phone (mid-december) and still nothing! After how long...!!

So, I guess near the time that my 2-year contract is up, they will have a dock that will hold my phone in a space-time vortex above my dashboard and support commands based on a series of blinks, charging the phone through no-contact, induction.

...and that's what grinds my gears.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CyberPunk7t9:
**removed post**
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nomisunrider:
Showing photos of phones is not an accurate measurement.

Someone already used a micrometer to measure the pins earlier in this thread, so please stop posting pictures...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pureazian626:
all the photos ive seen are literally side by side, the phones need to be flat on the screen next to a right angle ruler and measured.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CyberPunk7t9:
did not know that. sorry for using a lot of your bandwidth.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rookie_One:
I admit it was a dealer store, don't know how they got it thought....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ciscoheat9:
No Love in Canada

Well, went to 2 Bell Stores, their Best Buy, every phone store in the mall, and some other Best Buy like store I have since forgotten the name of. None of which even had the cheap plastic version we had. They seemingly had no idea what was going on. Bell shows something on their website, but if you ask their online staff if its in stock they say no and to check their stores. Their stores say to check online. Long story short...no three pins in Canada!!

SB
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
There's nothing stopping a dealer from purchasing through third parties and reselling items. That's why I'm not convinced that what you saw is the same as what is listed on Bell's website.

I think you are jumping to conclusions. I personally believe that the dock that is listed on Bell's website has the pogo pins -- it's just that Bell has yet to start selling them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] subvertz:
Definetly not for sale here in Norway. Not even the VZW.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DanPonjican:
I went ahead and purchased the "dumb dock" without the pins. Got tired of waiting. Just in case anyone was wondering, The Verizon version with the Samsung extended battery does work with the dash mount that I got. Fits great. If the 3-pin version every does come out, I'll probably pick it up and try to sell this one that I have.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tgwaste:
I sure hope Samsung doesnt win the next google nexus title. this is supposed to be the best phone out right now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] moterbiker:
That is one thing I can say about my last 3 Android phones, 2 Motorolas, the OG Droid and then a Droid X both had car docks right away, my next was an Evo 3D and that had a pretty decent aftermarket one available.

Another post on here got me thinking about just making my own doc with a hard drive magnet and an NFC tag. At least my ghetto mount won't retail for $40.

Aftermarket support seems to be coming slowly, too slowly though
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mca312:
I've done something similar with NFC and Tasker
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] krohnjw:
The nexus one didn't have a car dock for three months. The nexus s didn't have one for 6 months. It isn't a Samsung thing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] El Daddy:
I said this a month ago. Nobody listened to me. :)

I also think they are waiting for updated car and desk dock apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellesshoo:
The ns dock is a joke, both car & desk docks. The n1 docks were nice and at least were available soon after launch. Seriously I think the first time I saw a nexus s desk dock for sale was within a month of the ultimately postponed SGN announcement at "unpacked". That's messed up, having your accessories finally hit national retailers almost a year from when the phone was announced and less than 1-2 months before its successor is revealed. I don't think the car mount was ever available from a "normal" retailer, maybe that's changed but too late now. I can't remember those "docks" (they did nothing) being pictured and shown off when the NS was launched so it wasn't much of a disappointment.

Why would anyone delay making an insane profit off of plastic shapes and copper wires because they wanted to wait for a new clock or a new 6-tile car mode launcher? That really doesn't sound right. Those apps have hardly changed in years, why would they now? Sammy even has their own POS clock app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] moterbiker:
And after using car home ultra for a couple of years I could care less about any of the others I have tried. I used to hate paying for apps but now I don't mind supporting people that write them, as long as they are decent anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iconoclastnet:
Why would anyone delay making an insane profit off of plastic shapes and copper wires - ? That really doesn't sound right.

Yet here we are 3 months later asking that very question ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] krohnjw:
The fact that the NS docks were just plastic isn't really relevant to the time discussion. It was three months after release of the Nexus One before the car dock (with pogo pins) was available (April). If you consider that "soon after launch" then consider this. If the GN Car dock (with pogo pins) stock is delivered as expected by retailers by mid February it's.....3 months after release.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellesshoo:
Well I finally decided to take matters into my own hands and modded a vzw dock to have pogo pins (for power only). Figured at least it would shed some light on whether both the GSM and lte could potentially use the same dock. I have GSM wife has lte, we both have standard and extended batteries. At this point I can confirm two things 1) the GSM with extended battery fits the vzw dock perfectly 2) the mod works. I haven't done any further testing and don't have the time until tomorrow. Wife is out of town so I can't quite check on the vzw fit until she's back on Tuesday. I must say, although I'm happy with the outcome I find the touchstone mod and using the touchstone in the car slightly more appealing. That may change once I give it a little road testing. Pics/instructions/lessons-learned... tomorrow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gaetawoo:
Come on... Half the price of the phone almost for a freaking car dock? ? The drama of this forum needs to come down a few notches.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike.s:
I agree. Exaggerations like claiming $85 is half the cost of a $600 phone are just the ravings of a drama queen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheHunterOfShadows:
Well this is ultra disappointing. Just bought a gnex off of eBay and figured getting a car mount would be np
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreadmador:
I decided I'm going to still get the one from Expansys. I'll mod it as needed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nomisunrider:
People with the LTE version only paid $199-$250
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xxprodigyxx11:
With an upgrade. Some bought it at full price.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dB Zac:
Yes but on contract. Comparing contract subsidized price to a retail price is apples to oranges
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] firehazard:
Verizon is still getting the remaining $400 via subsidization costs in your monthly payments.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dB Zac:
And then some
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] najaboy:
Quite the contrary. Many people, myself included, paid $650 for the LTE Nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sacksyboy:
Touche. Some folks just like to get up on their soapbox.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheHunterOfShadows:
Off topic a bit now but its a joke these games that are played with carriers and phone makers. I don't believe for one second that the intended retail price for a gnex would $600-$650 if everyone bought their own phone out right. Who knows what it would be, but I bet it would be more in the $500 range.

That aside comparing the mount price to the contract price of the phone is not fair. Though I think its sad that many just look at the contract price and assume its just what u do/is the only option.

That said I'm not paying $85 for a mount :D. But that's just me. $50 is my limit. And for vz to charge $40 for the pos that they are hocking is just mind blowing...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike.s:
No one paid $200. You don't know how it works, do you? You pay $200 up front, and the rest of what you pay is built into your service monthly bill, with payment spread over about 2 years. Look up the words "subsidized" and "contract." It's a $600 phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] subvertz:
ellesshoo, mod looks great! Your making me regret not picking up a VZW to play around with when I was stateside.

BTW, see you are a fellow tiger fan, but I see snow out side? Guess you are not in louisiana either...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellesshoo:
Ha, yea it snowed last night and no not in Louisiana. Landed in Pennsylvania where "cheese-steaks" (some unwanted cut of meat shredded on a roll with canned cheese) are considered the pinnacle of culinary achievement ever since Katrina. I go back to NO all the time though (BR too) and hopefully someday soon will move back permanently.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sigismond0:
Just to play devil's advocate here, what's with all the hate on the Verizon dock? I get that it's just a dumb dock (you know, like most phones have) but it's not like it's just a crappy piece of plastic. In fact, it's easily the nicest quality car dock I've owned for a phone, hands down. For those of you that are ready to give up on waiting, don't let this thread convince you that the Verizon dock is trash. It's not. People just like to exaggerate and whine when they can't get what they want.

As a disclaimer: I don't like that I have this dock, as I had to get it so that I could use my phone in my car for work. Couldn't wait for the good one to come out; holding out for pogo pins is not worth dying in a fireball. I'll sell this one on Craigslist and buy the good one if/when it comes out, because as nice as the dock is, I would love not have to plug in and out all the time. May even try modding the pins in, waiting to see how it all turned out for the user that did.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] scottws:
I can't speak for everyone, but I am not happy that the phone has the 3-pins for easy docking, but they aren't being taken advantage. I had no idea the VZW version was a slightly different size than the GSM one that does have accessories that use the 3 pins.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nomisunrider:
Yep I know how it works. So, you tell me how a new Verizon customer could pay the full cost of the phone and get a non-subsidized plan that costs less per month? Oh. There is no option for that?

I also get a corporate discount through my work and only paid $200 for the phone as part of a new plan.

Since there is no option to pay the full cost of the phone and get a cheaper, non-subsidized plan, then who in their right mind would not take advantage of the subsidized price?

Last, from an accounting perspective, future dollars are worth less than current dollars due to inflation. So by delaying payment you can make the argument that Verizon is actually getting less money from you. You could also invest that $400 less paid up front and make additional money off of it.

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Nice job Ellesshoo! Does it automatically go into car mode without the middle pin?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] veli69:
Interesting I will try this where did you get the pogo pins?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellesshoo:
I posted the Verizon dock mod to a new topic to not hijack this thread.

It's at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=22458078#post22458078
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike.s:
And yet, you proved that you don't. QED.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellesshoo:
I had them from a previous project. Should be able to get some from most major electronics components retailers online. I posted some more details including a bit about the type of pins you want to look for in the topic specifically for this mod. Digikey and the like is probably a good starting place to look. I don't know if pogo pin is a brand name or not but some places call them spring contacts instead.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nomisunrider:
And I ask you, how can one purchase and use an LTE galaxy nexus with Verizon and get a non-subsidized plan?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xxprodigyxx11:
Anyway. Back on topic. I finally caved and got a cheap ass Verizon car dock. It will do for now I guess. The rep said she gets a lot of nexus owners looking for 3 pin accessories.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -nrm:
My latest chat with a mobilefun.co.uk rep:

Me: Hi, any news on dispatching pre-ordered Genuine Samsung Galaxy Nexus Vehicle Dock ECS-K1F2BEGSTD yet?

Them: I can confirm that this item has now been placed on hold with Samsung and we not sure how long it will be before this is released..

yay..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sacksyboy:
You need to look beyond the 2 year agreement of Verizon plans.

The situation you describe below is correct (albeit flawed) should you pay $600 for the phone now - your plan would still have the subsidized rate baked in.

What others have done that makes the $600 more appealing is to be grandfathered into your plan and keep paying cash for your phones. I am grandfathered in from 8 years ago...they don't offer unlimited data anymore. I get it...and cheaper than it was ever offered for when it was available. So I now have an incredibly cheap plan with unlimited everything, so when I pay cash for a new phone...poof, my plan is unsubsidized (by today's rates).

If you hang on to a good plan and continue to pay cash for your phones, your plan by virtrue of being grandfathered becomes unsubsidized. BOOM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CyberPunk7t9:
Really? What cars docks did you own before? Did you see a Motorola car dock recently? Both charging and audio out of the micro usb port, then audio splits near the charging unit. less clutter, one cable. thin arm, high quality units.

Even the updated Galaxy Nexus car dock we're waiting will have some cons. But we want because it would still be the most convenient car dock for the GNEX!

It has a large arm. Gloss finish reflects on windshields. 2 cables dangling if you want both charging and AUX connection.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vaffanculo403:
I personally like the way the phone looks and feels with the OEM extended battery in better than the stock battery..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Neo3D:
The REAL 3 pin dock has these connectors on the base:

It should also come with the car charger thing:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neok44:
Negri Electronics has stated through twitter that they'll have the samsung OEM accessories after christmas.

i asked if it's the car and portrait dock and they said yes, so hopefully they'll be the right ones.

And hopefully they'll still have the $35 off coupon active.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] itsjusttim:
If they do I'm all over it. Good find, thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] daveknights:
I highly doubt that it is the same one Verizon is selling. The video posted here "http://youtu.be/2w7TgFmP74I" has a very similar part number to the one I purchased. The youtube video also has a link to a uk website that has pics. I'm feeling pretty confident and I think I got a decent price. We'll just have to wait and see.

Also the listing that I purchased from says it's compatible with Verizon and Unlocked GSM versions.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thatguy188:
Dave, let us know once you receive it! I tried getting a hold of Samsung today via Twitter with no success. I am holding out until I can get my hands on the "real" thing ... not going to go out and buy a piece of plastic.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aphexjuggalo:
curious how the sound gets to the dock though. has a headphone out socket but no input at the phone. from the video the only hardline to the phone is the 3-prong connection which doesnt seem enough for audio and charging. maybe mount has bluetooth built in and converts to hard line? anybody know?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Teksu:
ASAIK the 3 pin connector handles power and audio, doubt it has anything to do with Bluetooth
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vaffanculo403:
I heard that the Nexus S dock used Bluetooth to send the audio to the **** do its possible..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] berkmanmd:
Why don't they just use a cable to send it to the ****?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dragonii:
Too thick?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] d-iivil:
Because usually dicks don't like cables being attached to them?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vaffanculo403:
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mortodestructo:
As I have a tendency to be a **** at times, I can attest to this. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jettajon:
Get answers from Samsung

samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECS-K1F8BEGSTA

Go to this link and write a review of the mount. Maybe we can get Samsung to respond about the discrepancy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
...my HTCPedia pre-ordered dock is as follows:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biggiestuff:
yeah but that's the mount no one wants. It doesn't have the audio out or charging port. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
...just adding info... ...the samsung site does describe it as usb charging w/audio out, i can confirm tomorrow night for myself when it arrives...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellesshoo:
The nexus one car & desk docks charged via the pogo pins but used Bluetooth for audio to output to the 3.5mm jack on the base of the desk dock and to the loud speaker on the car dock. I imagine the GN will work the same. One of the pogo pins causes the nexus one to automatically enter car or desk mode and pair BT with the dock depending on the voltage at that pin. Essentially that one pin acts as a flag for the type of dock and nothing more. It is equivalent to using the 5th pin in a 5 pin USB plug (only 4 are needed for "normal" USB operation, power, data +, data -, and ground).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boynamedstacy:
You are absolutely correct.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nomisunrider:
I understand that, but you overlooked the key word in my second sentence. "...tell me how a new Verizon customer could pay the full cost of the phone and get a non-subsidized plan..."

If you are a new customer to Verizon, there is no reason to pay full price for the phone. I know that a LOT of people moved to Verizon for this phone, and hence there would be no financial reason for them to not purchase the phone at the subsidized price.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brownel02:
Moving right along to more of an on-topic question...

Can someone please explain/clarify how the AUX out works on this dock. My assertion is that the third pin enables the phone BT (as someone mentioned previously) and that signal is converted back into a hard line out (AUX) via a BT device located within the dock itself. Is this a reasonable assertion? If so, I would assume that the power in to the dock also gets split to charge the BT in the dock. Otherwise if one were to use the dock in an unplugged manner eventually it (the AUX out) would die.

I understand the above is all speculation at this point since there is no dock currently available (thus this thread).

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mike.s:
Eat your own red herring. Verizon has the cost of offering subsidized phones built into the plans. Whether you take advantage of that, or let them make more profit, doesn't change what a phone actually costs.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nomisunrider:
Thank you for proving my point. There is no way for a new customer to get a non-subsidized plan.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] robstunner:
ordered the GSM 3 pin one as well as the verizon one. If there's a will theres a way. (to get it to fit my VZN one)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iconoclastnet:
I think you mean "... than the GSM one that might someday have accessories that use the 3 pins."

Even the officially announced products for the GSM version are still vapor at this point.

At this point it's a race to see if samsung can get around to releasing something using the three pins before I get around to doing one of the various diy mods to the same end. The touchstone mod is looking nicer by the day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CyberPunk7t9:
Not cheap. But here's an alternative to the OEM car dock for those who can't or don't wanna wait..

Verizon version:

http://www.proclipusa.com/brodit-de...d-cigarette-lighter-adapter-512331-18881.aspx

GSM version:

http://www.proclipusa.com/brodit-de...d-cigarette-lighter-adapter-512324-18853.aspx