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[Kindle Fire General] mugabuga:
Noob question here. What does one of these cables do? I understand they're used for debricking devices, but how?
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
They force the device into fastboot mode so that you can force recovery and other processes.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
1/4 Watt isn't cumbersome, its the total opposite, the smaller it is the much much harder it is to work with. I can't even hold or position the 1/8 Watt, its just to damn small to menuever into place, but the 1/4 Watt is the perfect size for the human fingers to grasp properly, for me at least.
[Kindle Fire General] evlsmurf:
SkOrPn i would like to say that your cable saved me and by far the quality u put into the cable is superb.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Thank you very much for the kind words. Now you have insurance for when/if it happens again ;)
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Ok I need help again. I have another user "arkbishop" who just sent me a PM with the following message.

If anyone knows what he/she must do I would be grateful. Thanks guys...

SkOrPn
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Not enough information to go on. What did they see? What if any errors, what are they trying, with what tools?
[Kindle Fire General] arkbishop:
Hello,

At this point of time, the KF is only showing the Kindle Fire screen. When I first connected it to the computer it attempted to update the software but gave an error and did not load any software. I ahve tried connecting it to the computer again but it does not acknowledge nor connect to the computer. At this time, the KF is stuck at the Kindle Fire animation and it will only turn on when connected to a computer. I hope this helps.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Ok good glad you posted here so I dont have to go back and forth. If you get it fixed with the information you learn here in the next few days that will be great. If not, I can send you another cable just in case. They all test great before I ship them.

Good luck arkbishop with getting help for your problem.
[Kindle Fire General] kinfauns:
SkOrPn: I'm sure there's nothing wrong with your cable. I suggested arkbishop get your factory cable in another thread where he was asking for unbricking advice. He's just unfamiliar with fastboot... what it is, how it works, etc.

arkbishop: Follow these steps - Boot up your computer to Windows, turn off the Kindle Fire, connect the factory cable to the Kindle Fire, connect the factory cable into your computer. The Kindle Fire will now power on automatically. If all you ever see is the "kindle fire" logo when you turn on your Kindle Fire, that's exactly what is supposed to happen. Your Kindle Fire is now in fastboot mode.

Open a command prompt in Windows (if you don't know what that is, read this page), move to the directory with the fastboot executable, and type the following command:

fastboot -i 0x1949 devices

That's a 0 (zero), not an O (capital O). You should see

0123456789ABCDEF fastboot​

That means your Windows machine recognizes your Kindle Fire and sees it in fastboot mode. If that doesn't happen, your drivers are not installed properly. You have to uninstall whatever is on there now and use Kindle Fire Utility to install the proper ones.

Go to the TeamWin site and download the TWRP image. Put that file into the same directory as the fastboot executable. Then run these commands

fastboot -i 0x1949 oem idme bootmode 4000
fastboot -i 0x1949 boot twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img

That will set your bootmode to normal, install TWRP 2.0 and FIREFIREFIRE 1.0 and ask you to reboot. Remove the factory cable and reboot it. When you see the yellow triangle logo, press and release the power button repeatedly on your Kindle Fire until it goes into recovery mode. This should look familiar to you because you said you've used TWRP before. The ICS ROM you tried to install before should still be on your Kindle Fire. Install the ROM using TWRP's interface and reboot. It's fixed.
[Kindle Fire General] chalicucu:
hi SkOrPn. Can i using samsung micro usb cab to make KF factory cab

(connect extra leg to red leg). I try but not success ( i try to push transitor 100K , 200K, 300K but i can not go to KF fastboot).
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
What??

My Samsung JIG is for Samsung Galaxy smartphones ONLY. They are hot glued assembled and can not be taken apart.

You need my Factory Cable for Fastboot. I should go back and edit all my earlier posts with only assembly and order information lol.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Deleting my Cable Ad
[Kindle Fire General] arkbishop:
Bricked Kindle

Thank you for the directions, I am trying to follow them to the letter but am an idiot and cannot seem to get this thing right. I utilized the MS-Dos command prompt and am able to see the directories. I believe I have downloaded the proper Kindle directories but (once again I believe it is my stupidity), that I cannot get to the fastboot.The KF is at the Kindle Fire logo but it is turning on and off.

When I try to use the Kindle Fire Utility (0.93) and try "install_driver.bat", I get the following error:

Windows cannot find '\drivers\dpinst64.exe'. Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again.

I attempted running the Kindle Fire Utility, and I di see a message that says:

The Kindle has been told to reboot in Fastboot Mode

The system cannot find the path specified.

It gives me the option to use the install_drivers.bat but I get the message mentioned above.

I really am sorry for just not getting it, but I am not sure what to do at this point. I just cannot seem to pinpoint how to resolve this issue.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
[Kindle Fire General] kinfauns:
I'd be willing to wager that you have not unzipped the compressed archive you downloaded and you are trying to run the install_driver.bat directly from within the zip file. If I'm right, Windows also warned you that what you are trying to do may not work for this exact reason when you tried to run KFU or the driver installer. You must have the drivers installed first for anything else to work.

Go to your download directory or wherever you save your downloaded files. You'll find a "Kindle_Fire_Utility_v0.9.3.zip" file, but the ".zip" part is probably hidden from you, so you'll just see "Kindle_Fire_Utility_v0.9.3" as the name. You can tell that it's a zip file because the icon will be a folder with a vertical zipper across it. You must expand this file into an actual folder. You do that by right clicking on it and selecting the "Extract All..." item from the menu that pops up. It will ask you for a location to save the expanded folder. Just use the default location and just extract there. Look again in the folder where you downloaded KFU. You'll see another "Kindle_Fire_Utility_v0.9.3" item there, but it will be an open folder without the zipper. This is the folder you want to navigate and find the install_driver.bat file. Double click that and install the drivers. I'm not sure if you need to reboot Windows at this point, but it wouldn't hurt either.

Connect the Kindle Fire in fastboot mode with the previous instructions I gave you. If using the fastboot command line tool directly seems too daunting for you at this point, you can probably just use KFU to install TWRP.

BTW, we are pretty off topic for this thread. If you need more help, go back to the unbricking thread.
[Kindle Fire General] LSD DREAMER:
i guess u cant use it on htc phones
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Probably not. Besides, why would HTC copy Motorola's engineering design in the first place? Wouldn't they have engineered their own methods for flashing??? :confused:
[Kindle Fire General] Nim Chimpsky:
Wish I had seen this thread earlier!

I have already ordered and received two breakout boards from Sparkfun, but would have probably not have gotten around for at least a few weeks to even try soldering one to make a cable.

I will probably spend another $16 and order a cable very soon from SkOrPn, but I want to verify one thing first:

Will using this, or an equivalent, cable allow me to unbrick my Kindle Fire regardless of what I might have written to or erase from it using adb and fastboot that caused it to brick in the first place?
[Kindle Fire General] smirkis:
That's the idea, but a borked bootloader would be the only thing u can't fix. Unless your a bootloader dev you should never Have to worry about this. If Amazon ever updates the bootloader via OTA, this cable could also end up useless..
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Just want to mention that I got 7 sales yesterday thanks to everyone. However, because of high sales on my JIG's and these cables I mistakenly underestimated my material needs and have run out of connectors. I have plenty of cables, just no connectors to modify at this time. Because I am under contract at eBay for next day shipping on my JIG's I will be keeping these remaining three just in case I get an order. I have more material on the way that I ordered already but it may take a short while to get everything back in stock.

I sincerely apologize to anyone who needs one, but rest assured I will continue to make them once I get materials to do so. Again my apologies for not anticipating this sooner. I will post here once I am good to go...

Best Regards

SkOrPn

EDIT: All orders have been filled. I will send out confirmations, thank you letters and tracking numbers later tonight. Thanks again and here's to no one bricking until I am ready to help again lmao.... ;)
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
HELP!

Ok I have another user that just received his cable but when he plugs it in nothing at all happens. I asked him to post into this thread or somewhere into the Kindle section, so until then that all I know.

I thought this device was supposed to turn on when the cable gets plugged in??? No??? :confused:

Thanks for any help that could be provided please.
[Kindle Fire General] lmntone:
That is correct. It should turn on as soon as the cable/power adapter is plugged in.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
That's what I thought. Yet the guy says nothing at all is happening. Does the Kindle Fire need a specific amount of current from the USB port, or does even the weakest of USB ports fire it up?

I wonder if a solder joint got knocked loose during transit... Seems very unlikely to me...

Last question, can these KF's become hard bricked from users modding them?
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
yes - if someone flashes a wrong bootloader or destroys the bootloader otherwise

in this case there is also a solution:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1405052
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Ok b63 I have shared this information with the user in question but still no reply from him.

Thanks as always.

Also I found out today that I am not going to have any more cables for sale until around April 20th. I am also moving into a new home on the 10th of April so will be quite busy with that from now until then.

Thanks again
[Kindle Fire General] smirkis:
is that user powering off his device first? does he have 6.3OS by chance? wondering if the new bootloader kills the cables
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
He says he won't have time to do any testing or posting into the forums until tomorrow. I don't know what OS he has, but he did mention that he was flashing via TWRP when it just died on him. It still powers on but only via the power button and it takes him to a yellow triangle. He can't get it to do anything else.

Yeah I am wondering if a new version of bootloader is coming on newer KF's myself. We won't know until he replies to our posts tomorrow with the proper info. I have made him another cable just in case we determine the one he got from me is bad. Not sure how that could be, but I guess it's possible lol.

Thanks for responding smirkis. It's appreciated.
[Kindle Fire General] kinfauns:
Sounds like it's this guy...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1480249

By his own account, he tried flashing the TWRP image directly into the bootloader partition, which is obviously a bad idea since it's a recovery and not a bootloader. I'm not even sure fastboot would even do it given the size of the image, but I'm certainly not going to test it.

In any case, it looks like he broke it in early February, so I'm sure 6.3 doesn't even come into the picture here. Given the circumstances, I'm also sure it's not related to the factory cable.

FWIW, I have my own doubts that Amazon would kill the factory cable/fastboot mode through the stock bootloader. It would make it that much tougher for them to do their own refurbishing and repair work. I'm not saying they wouldn't do it, but it seems like something they'd just leave alone for their own benefit if nothing else.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Ok, I have some solid information now. He just replied and gave me such a great explanation that I asked him if he ever considered a career as a tech manual writer, lmao.. Anyway he goes on to say he is on the road at the moment and his Kindle is home. Below is his email to me so we can think about what he might or might not have done correctly. He also isnt ready to give up on my cable yet. AND it sounds like he has a old Kindle with a proper bootloader.

This is his reply after asking him to try and remember exactly what he did to put himself into this mess.

I wasn't aware you could run CM9 on these devices in the first place, lol... Shows how little I know about the Kindle haha..

Thanks again guys

---------- Post added at 07:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:47 PM ----------

Yes that makes perfect sense, in fact it could possibly cost them thousands and thousands to re-engineer a new software flashing design for themselves knowing damn well that the reverse engineers and modders out here wont stop until they crack it again. lol

Makes perfect sense...
[Kindle Fire General] smirkis:
sounds like its just stuck in fastboot with bad drivers lol. hence the reboot to yellow triangle after twrp install. it was in fastboot before that and remains until changed via fastboot idme bootmode 4000
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
True, but still plugging in the factory cable does nothing at all, just stays off. He has to physically push the power button for it to boot to that yellow triangle.

Sounds like a real brick to me but I admit I know nothing about how the KF works. lol
[Kindle Fire General] kinfauns:
The device should power on automatically when it senses power on the USB cable, regardless of whether it's a factory cable, generic cable, or the charger cable. I would try all of the above with all available cables and chargers to see if there's some pattern or maybe eliminate some of the variables. I'd be stumped if none of the above powers on the device and consider a hardware malfunction at that point.

Otherwise, I agree that this is probably a driver issue. The device manager should show "Android Phone -> Android ADB Interface" if it's in fastboot mode. If it shows "Other devices -> Kindle" or some other thing when it gets plugged in, it's going to be a driver problem. I suggest, removing the current drivers and then the device from the device manager, disconnecting the device, and then using KFU's driver install batch file to install the proper ones.

It sounds like s/he has a solid footing, but it couldn't hurt to have a look at my beginner's guide to get some background information on how many of these things fit together... especially fastboot and adb instead of relying on KFU.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=23747567&postcount=1

I think I'll have to augment it with a drivers section since so many people have problems getting this right.
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
i agree with smirkis to try

"fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000"

in the case it says <waiting for device> power it off by holding the pwr button for ~20sec till it turns of - pwr on again - the command should resume and finish

a second pwr off/on should bring you back to normal

if this don't work i would think it's a driver issue in first place ...
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
I have determined that a new cable needs to be tried before we continue with trouble shooting. The simple fact is his Kindle boots up with the other cables he has but does not with mine. So either a solder joint broke loose during transit OR his device does not like the high 1k ohm resistor.

In any effect a second cable will help to answer some questions and make it clearer in what direction he needs to proceed. I'm just thankful I have one for him to try lol. I almost didn't.

Thanks to all who helps in these forums. It's appreciated.

SkOrPn
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
I am still out of stock of cables. I will NOT have any materials until around April 20th according to the supplier.

Again my apologies to everyone who will be needing one sooner than that I already feel quite terrible that I can not help you. :(
[Kindle Fire General] weehooherod2:
Don't these Kindle Fire factory cables work on Motorola devices too?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
As far as I know the below devices so far. Maybe more but this is the list I know of.

Kindle FIRE

Motorola Atrix

Motorola Droid 1

Motorola Droid 2

Motorola Droid 2 Global

Motorola Droid 3

Motorola Droid Bionic

Motorola Droid Charge

Motorola Droid Pro

Motorola Droid Pro Global

Motorola Droid Razr

Motorola Droid X

Motorola Napoleon

MOTORAZR2 V9m

Motorola Xoom
[Kindle Fire General] aarons510:
Are there stock microUSB cables with 5 wires?

I thought you just had to open up the microUSB plug on a standard cable and connect the ID pin to one of the others. I must have misunderstood, since there's never a shortage of standard A-male to microUSB male cables.

But I've read many of the posts in this thread and related threads and may have missed the following question and its answer:

Does anybody manufacture and sell any cable that has a microUSB plug at one end that has separate wires going into each of the five pins? (Most likely, it would be a cable from a mini-B connector to a microUSB one, since the former also has five pins.)

If the answer is yes, then the microUSB end of such a cable should be easy to modify merely by cutting and stripping the wires and twisting the appropriate ones together, along with the four wires coming out of a USB A male plug from another cable, to create a factory cable without doing any soldering.

In fact, if one has a cable connecting the five pins of a female mini-B connector to the corresponding five pins of a microUSB connector, it would only be necessary to cut and slice two wires, and use the modified cable together with a standard A-male to mini-B male cable as a factory cable.
[Kindle Fire General] kinfauns:
Sure, I agree with everything you said, but...

1) The manufacturer isn't likely to increase their own material and labor costs to add a wire that 99.999% of buyers would never need or use

2) They certainly wouldn't go through the trouble of advertising it so the ultra-minority could seek them out

3) Unless you have access to an x-ray machine or something, there's no practical way of determining if the cable is configured like this without taking it it apart

I'd love to be proven wrong though and it would probably be easier for SkOrPn to modify such a cable instead of what he's doing now, but... call me a skeptic.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
No, absolutely not, it is MUCH harder to modify a cable as it is and try and put it back together looking like a professional product. I purchase USB cables, cut the formed micro end off (takes 1 second to cut it off) and use the only known MicroUSB connector that has room to house a resistor. I then fill it with hot glue much like the real manufacturers do and logo it as you see in the pictures.

Cutting and hacking a cable is NOT a professional way to do things and thus I wont be a part of that crap unprofessional hacking stuff, lol... I have not found a cable yet that is cheap enough and able to easily take apart without adding tons of extra work. Id rather have the parts delivered brand new and un-assembled in the first part for much less money and come up with a professional looking product that needed less work to assemble.. Why in the world add extra work to to hack and disassemble a cable just to "try" and make the exact same product modded?

@aarons510, Your way would require a much more expensive cable AND be a lower quality cable in the first place and at the same time cost twice or three times the work. I've already tried exactly this and its insanely to much work for the cost I'm asking for. My way is higher quality and much faster to produce and results in a professional looking product in the end... Hacking at a cable to try and modify it would take 30 minutes or more to try and finish it up like a store bought product. My cable takes me 5-10 minutes from start to finish and looks much better...

This is the connector I use, brand new and ready for someone to solder to. No unsightly ugly hacking involved. Cut cable, solder to connector and assemble with very strong hot glue. Finished and professional looking.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/17066321259...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1944wt_905

I am out of these connectors because my original order got lost. A new order is on the way though.

Guys/gals, I just need my product to feel like a real store bought product as much as possible. Otherwise I don't want to make it at all. But that's me... :D
[Kindle Fire General] aarons510:
In other words, such a cable probably doesn't exist, since it would serve no ordinary purpose, and, if such a cable does exist, we don't have a way to know about it.

It does seem to me, though, that at least a half-cable with 5 wires coming out of a microUSB connector would be about as useful -- more or less so, depending on the particular use -- as the SparkFun breakout board.

Of course, in that case, even somebody like myself with no soldering skills and poor vision could make a factory cable, and we wouldn't need somebody skilled like SkOrPn to make one for us. But, given what is and isn't available, I will be more than happy to pay SkOrPn for one of his cables when they become available again.

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Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize one could buy those un-assembled microUSB plugs. In this particular instance, I had too little, rather than too much, imagination.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Yeah I had a feeling you didnt realize something like that. In my instance, I already manufacture the Samsung "SkOrPn JIG" and sell them at eBay and several other websites so I already had the materials to do this mod for you Kindle folks. That's why I considered doing this in the first place, just because all I had to do was purchase $0.54 cent cables at Monoprice, and source some local 1k-ohm resistors. These Monoprice cables are higher quality than any cable I could purchase otherwise that would give me a connector that could be disassembled. In fact, the cheapest cables I came across were like $1.20 EACH and I had to buy a minimum of 500 from a Chinese supplier. Monoprice will sell me bulk orders of 50 for only .54 cents each, and all I have to do is cut off one end and solder on my own connector and resistor. This is easier and cleaner in my opinion and in my testing. Trying to hack open a already assembled connector or wire to solder a resistor to it and then patch it up to look worthy of $16 asking price, well need I say more? I would feel compelled to ask for less $ for a cable I had to do more work on. Which again brings me to the question, why? lol

By the way, I did consider for the longest time trying to source an MiniUSB to MicroUSB adapter that would be capable of taking apart easily. This adapter could possibly be found for around 20-50 cents each, but only need a resistor soldered to the internals. I would have to purchase a larger bulk order and didn't want to chance it not working and being stuck with 500 adapters I couldn't use. Plus an adapter would require everyone to have their own MiniUSB cable lying around, yet another negative aspect. I think I have selected the easiest, simplest method to get these to people who cant make their own.

Besides my current cable is purdy.... When something looks good it performs better. lmao j/k :D