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[Android General] Alanon:
This is definitely one of the best launchers out there. I've been a lurker at this thread for some time now, and I've followed the discussion and tips posted here. That's how I found out about the patch for the default launcher.

While tings have definitely been running better since v2 was released, tsf has been restarting as much as ever. I went through a good bit of the thread, and found no solution or hint as to the problem or its solutions.

I'm running on android 4.1.1 with a gig of RAM. When I visit the play store for instance, I'm always greeted with the loading screen upon return. When I check the RAM usage, it's only up to 70% capacity.

Just how much juice does our launcher need? Are there any plans for rooting out this annoyance? I'd really hate to have to switch from it, but the constant loading is getting to me.

Cheers!
[Android General] yaatzek:
Are you using some task killer? Since few updates there is also an option to keep the launcher in memory, did you enabled it?

Wysłane z mojego Nexus 7 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Android General] Alanon:
I have the option enabled. When I saw it, i got my hopes up. No task killers, only Greenify, with auto-hibernation disabled. I've never seen TSF in the pending list.
[Android General] Jonny176:
Are you using a custom rom? I had a sky rocket with a gig of ram and never had reloades.. But it was bone stock

sent from my blazing fast note 3
[Android General] Alanon:
Nope, no roms for my phone. xD
[Android General] yaatzek:
Well it looks like your system is killing tsf for some reason. Maybe try some 3rd party apps to manage apps in memory, something like this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartprojects.RAMOptimizationFree&hl=pl
[Android General] Alanon:
Ok, I've been actively dealing with this the last couple of days, here are my results. First off, no third app helped. Everything remained exactly the same.

Then I read a post on an obscure Russian forum, and found what seems to be working for me. The trick is to go to the "Advanced settings", tick the "System persistent", but untick the "Auto clean-up" bit. That's the part that seems to disturb the whole process.

I have no idea whether they were meant to be ticked together, or if the trick was posted earlier on, but I thought it worth to mention again. So far, not a single crash, exit or reload, the whole day! So, anyone who is experiencing reloads, give it a shot.

Cheers!
[Android General] rexboy:
I've had the reload issue for many of the last versions now.

I've tried most of the tricks except a custom script.

Reinstall the launcher helps momentarily, reboot helps momentarily but nothing else.

Tried your trick on my galaxy 3 but unfortunately no luck.

I already had the system persistent ticked but assumed the clean up had to be ticked. I unticked etc but no luck for me :(

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Android General] Alanon:
That's a shame. It seems to be working for me. Have had just one reload since the time I posted the fix.

What I can recommend is to see if you have task killers active, or something similar? Since I applied the setting, I've been getting more alerts from Clean Master because my ram is 90% full, but I read that Android is supposed to sort it out on his own anyway. It might be that something is meddling, but it just might be a fluke for me.
[Android General] 3xpt0:
Hi, since I updated my HTC One to kitkat , my TSF shows 2 Phone Icons , does anyone have the same bug???
[Android General] Alanon:
I have two Messages apps, but only one works. The broken one stays even after freezing the app. Never been able to fix it.
[Android General] tool_king:
It seems, that you haven't done a clean install, have you?
[Android General] 3xpt0:
Yes I did ... 5x times... Reset All .. Install all over again "one by one" still 2 Phone Icons
[Android General] tool_king:
And I guess you wiped your cache and dalvik as well, right?
[Android General] 3xpt0:
Yes i did ... Also did install one by one

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Why clean the Dalvik vm?????
[Android General] yaatzek:
It's tsf problem with kitkat, I had the same on my stock kitkat rom on n4. Just make extra icon invisible through tsf options.
[Android General] DentalDenist:
Free pendants

they released some free pendants.

play store link:

http://goo.gl/3KcVVE

[YOUTUBE]s7TvrChuG4I[/YOUTUBE]
[Android General] tool_king:
TSF team seems to test a new feature.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=511252995658192&set=vb.370370073079819&type=2&theater
[Android General] MasterGP1:
I have a Rooted Galaxy Note 3 international and i bought the tsf shell with the last update and when i choose it as my default launcher it stuck at the tsf logo.....i try many times but nothing....any help please??thank you
[Android General] yaatzek:
I have no idea how to help you. Try writing to tsf support they always answer, but not always fast ;)
[Android General] tool_king:
Did you already check the right settings in "Advanced Settings"?
[Android General] MasterGP1:
Sorry my friend what is the right settings in Advanced settings???

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Advanced settings at the launcher?because it cannot open,i use custom rom the XNOTE v11 with custom dpi
[Android General] tool_king:
Oh, if you use Xposed Installer, you could try the module App Settings. You could modify the dpi for TSF launcher only with it. Just give it a try, maybe it works.
[Android General] MasterGP1:
it didnt work i change whole phone dpi to the default but nothing it stuck at the logo.......:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
[Android General] tool_king:
Did TSF launcher work with stock ROM?
[Android General] MasterGP1:
i try now my friend and i told you!!i reflash everything from the begining
[Android General] MasterGP1:
After many tries i saw that tsf shell didnt work with xposed framework.....all the other launchrs work......i hope they will fix that at the update
[Android General] tool_king:
For me it works flawlessly with xposed framework installed.
[Android General] MasterGP1:
what rom you use and what is your cell phone my friend??
[Android General] tool_king:
LG P880 with Mokee 44.2 ROM.
[Android General] grunted:
I had trouble with the older versions of xposed it works fine now. I'm on the galaxys3

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[Android General] LondonS3:
TSF shell is working fine here on a stock samsung 4.3 rom Galaxy S3, rooted with xposed framework (wanam xposed rocks!)
[Android General] MasterGP1:
I think because you use 4.3 I use 4.4.2 with xposed framework and I think it didn't work I mail to tsf shell and they said they will see that issue thank my friend

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[Android General] tool_king:
TSF is working properly for me with xposed framework on Mokee 4.4.2. So it's definitely not a kitkat issue.
[Android General] MRFERRARI23:
http://s.htc.com/1oQCjnr

+HTC is almost ready to unveil their next phone. But until then check out this exclusive link from HTC #OneUp #HTCOneUp #HTCOne #32514﻿

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Android General] tool_king:
Stop spamming the thread, please!
[Android General] InkSlinger420:
Not helpful...And if its not helpful, its not needed ...Thanks and your welcome..
[Android General] Bad-sheep-boy:
Use 3D UI, Will the phone be slowed down？
[Android General] MRFERRARI23:
I made one post and I wasn't spamming anything so relax! You don't like it move along but I guess you have nothing else better to do but complain so yeah

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Android General] tool_king:
Depends a lot on your device. But with at least 1GB RAM and 1 GHz it should run quite smoothly imho.

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Read the rules, point 15., and stop discussing!

http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?f=256
[Android General] mani0608:
TSF Website update and Next Version

It looks like our TSF team is putting some efforts to redefine the TSF Shell web site. And i must say its way better now.

BTW it looks like the next version is 3.5 and i think we will have to wait for some more days :)

Only 30% of the work completed for the next version.

(Sorry imageshack image link not working. Please check it yourself on TSF Website.)
[Android General] tool_king:
Here is the link to mani's tale. ;)

http://tsfui.com/#release
[Android General] ammarsg:
good web site now ....we are waiting the new update maybe come as major update as i see in its version number
[Android General] tool_king:
Maybe [MENTION=2352859]sinjiyo[/MENTION], our favorite spy, can tell us about the potential changelog for the upcoming v2.5.
[Android General] yaatzek:
Hi guys, I'm currently working on a new series of themes, what do you think: http://youtu.be/6Gcxu-9I2Hw If you grew up on atari, amiga and commodore you'll like it :) Don't be harsh this is very early preview.

The new website looks very nice, we know at least that there is not only one person working on this project but 3! So the development will go into lightspeed now ;) I especially like the GARELLY section, there are lot's of nice PITCURES.
[Android General] catman51:
The website looks great. It also mentions a light version coming soon. Someone should tell them they spelled Gallery as "Garelly", oops.
[Android General] yaatzek:
Pixel themes are ready guys. As usual they are paid BUT for you they are not (I don't remember why... you should actually pay double the price ;) ) Check how they look on my G+ profile (https://plus.google.com/114746974237955643593/posts/eUjLBWrHF5Y) and pm if you want one.
[Android General] lucasrj:
Pixel Themes

Great job on these themes Yaatzek!
[Android General] yaatzek:
Thank you :)
[Android General] mrmellies:
That red one would look sweet on my note 3

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looks awesome thank you sir!
[Android General] mani0608:
It looks like the next TSF update will be a direct long jump to 3.0.

Source: TSF WEB
[Android General] tool_king:
But they just changed the expected version number from 2.5 to 3.0, right? ;)
[Android General] mani0608:
Yes mate. that's what is there. But i think there will be a lot of new features coming up like we had in 2.0. Fingers crossed :)
[Android General] schimm:
Like the clock just don't like the seconds as they roll along. Find it distracting.

Sent by a Skinwalker
[Android General] drakulinho:
3.0 on 80% jeee:)
[Android General] MRFERRARI23:
That's awesome.. Love that it's so close to a release and how it jumped up from 30% to 80% completed. That's cool how they keep us posted like that. Can't wait to try it and see what's new and fixed etc

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Android General] raja.pandu54:
When is the 3.0 release guys. I'm waiting for the update. Anyone knows the New features in 3.0 ?
[Android General] yaatzek:
I guess only [MENTION=2352859]sinjiyo[/MENTION], our agent, could sniff something out for us.
[Android General] tool_king:
I guess sinjiyo was kidnapped by the Next Launcher suckers to get some information. :D
[Android General] catman51:
This was on Facebook this morning:

TSF Shell 3.0 is currently in the final stage of development. There will be great changes in this version, including the following features:

1. New App Drawer with innovated operations, provided with sorting and automatic / manual categorising function

2. Smart Key, a magical floating button

3. New Dock Bar

4. TSF Shell start time reduced to 1 second, the restarting issue is solved completely

5. Bigger and clearer icons with resizing option

6. Improvement in the operation process, easier to use

……

We will speed up the development and we will try to release v3.0 at the end of this month. Sorry for keeping you waiting. In the future we will update periodically.
[Android General] yaatzek:
Great news.
[Android General] ammarsg:
yah but long time for the end of this month and i see they make different launcher as new dock and new drawer ...we wait and see :good:
[Android General] MRFERRARI23:
At least we have a timeframe and hopefully we'll get it before the month is over

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Android General] tool_king:
"We will try to release v3.0 at the end of this month."

So why do you expect an update before the end of the month? They just will try to release it at the end of the month, so it's possible that the update won't be released before the middle of May as well.
[Android General] yaatzek:
Even when we would have exact timelilne.. it wouldn't guarantee the actual date of the update :) TSF bends and stretches the time to fit their speed of development. I believe no other launcher or app has that feature.
[Android General] mety333:
Oh wow its been a while since i was this excited about a tsf shell update YAY (:

Sent from my beautiful purple friend Xperia Z.

..........Technology Discovery..........

http://www.technology-discovery.com
[Android General] rexboy:
Startup time 1 second and restarting issue solved completely...... Hmm I'd like to see that haha. End of the day its still a great launcher. Hopefully end of the month it is :)

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Android General] dawabz94:
Hahaha, want to see that too !

Startup time , high memory usage and restarting issue are my main complain and main reasonshe why I quit TSF

Will see, will see..

Nice day all :)
[Android General] rifmouk:
on my LG optimus 2X, the icons have great look, like on Fourire's post.
[Android General] Roberto1000:
TSF on Place 3 in the Android Market :)
[Android General] Dr.Gonzo105:
Because it is highly priced and could easily become one of top grosser
[Android General] SmittyRN:
And Magic Butt Interactive is #7?
[Android General] codesplice:
May be the high-res thing then.

Here's what it looks like on my GNex.
[Android General] SmittyRN:
They look fine on my SGS2.
[Android General] mcord11758:
on my HTC Flyer 7" tablet they look bad. not so much on the home screen when spread out, but the app draw with everything so tight togetehr it looks awful

Looking at the screen shots earlier I think my issue has more to do with not being well optimized for the larger screen
[Android General] Guru Zeb:
glad you noticed that ........ further all top 10 are essentially unproductive eyecandy :rolleyes: ............... says a lot about the attitude of the average Android user ...... *sigh*
[Android General] oliverfigueiredo:
So do you peeps who've bought it, find it to be worth the high price?
[Android General] ernestnwanu:
At first I thought no, but they seem to be updating it constantly already.

Sent from my Desire Z running MIUI.
[Android General] mcord11758:
this could be an argument starter as it is an opinion

It is real intersting and smooth. Allot of potential if development continues. My honest opinion this is a beta just upgraded from an Alpha. First release had a bunch of FC and there were multiple updates within the first couple of days to account for the issues. If you have a device with allot of Ram there is nothing to worry about. If your Ram is tight, it eats more than most launchers I have used.

It is one of a kind, and fun to play with. once the novelty runs out I am not sure it will be a popular choice for a launcher. Unless development continued to push it forward. due to the high price tag I would suggest reading every post regarding people who have used it. Allot of common features found in launchers are not included. If you use allot of widgets this is probably not the launcher for you
[Android General] mrrick:
I feel like I've been got.

Edit: at this point anyways..

*signed
[Android General] CB620:
Just downloaded. Have to play around with it some more.
[Android General] kregiel16:
Could you tell me where did you get this launcher ?
[Android General] codesplice:
The market: http://goo.gl/lHmZv
[Android General] kregiel16:
Any Crakced version ?
[Android General] wilbur-force:
Not the place to ask questions like this.

If you can't afford it or think its too expensive look for free launchers. Plenty of them in the market.
[Android General] JustinUhhh:
XDA does not support cracked apps. If you are on this forum you should be trying to support the devs. Not steal from them.
[Android General] ChainSawDeviant:
So I bought this the day it came out. I had to refund it as it did nothing but FC for ten minutes on my EVO running Mik3.1, and it runs SPB just fine as that's my current daily driver (not sure why all the hating towards SPB), and yet this p.o.s. won't even load on the overclocked/rooted EVO? Reading all these testimonies has saved me the hassle of buying it again with no refund option to try it on my new tab. As far as the talk of free versions on here I'm surprised and disappointed...maybe the devs are preemptively protecting their interests by charging so much out of the gate figuring that as hot as it is that people would just steal it...even at $5 or less people are still stealing apps/works from devs...just my 2 Pennies.
[Android General] Darwichee:
I tried this yesterday, and uinstalled it (less then 15 min), and i promised my self not to buy this, now tonight, i bought it, really dont know why but i loved how smooth it is =(, now i really hope they make it good.
[Android General] pappschlumpf:
With the new cm11 theme engine TSF isn't starting anymore, buuh, i hope that's fixed with upcoming 3.0. With Omni themechooser builds it's not working, too. :(
[Android General] CCallahan:
I'm just hoping they optimize the launcher some more. Had to quit using it on my S4 and move to Nova because TSF really lagged it down. Just wasn't a smooth experience which was surprising since device is less than a year released. Have it running on my tablet and seems to work a bit better. Getting the S5 next week and maybe can start using it on my smartphone again. :fingers-crossed:
[Android General] yaatzek:
Strange thing happened also on my n7 after cm update tsf was gone, had to reinstall it. It got somehow removed?
[Android General] sinjiyo:
http://youtu.be/JRNQrio4vPo

experimental and not the final version..:)

wait your comment
[Android General] yaatzek:
Looks great, can't wait to test it.
[Android General] ammarsg:
look great ..they changed many things in tsf ...we wait and see
[Android General] yaatzek:
[MENTION=2352859]sinjiyo[/MENTION] I love tsf but I wonder why it has 3D in it's name? All the features which we already have and will have in the future aren't really 3D. They are of course awesome and look great, but I guess the devs should think of either removing those two signs from launcher name or work on some reall 3D look.
[Android General] sinjiyo:
maybe some widgets, transition and the screen selector ...no? :confused:
[Android General] yaatzek:
Well yes but it isn't enough imo to call the launcher 3d. Just look at next or spb.
[Android General] sinjiyo:
just your opinion :)
[Android General] yaatzek:
Of course it's only my opinion :) let others speak too. But as long it's paid the devs should really take closer look on users opinion ;) the whole capitalism is based on that ;)

So guys speak up: do you think tsf is really a 3d launcher?
[Android General] tool_king:
Who cares? It's great anyway. ;)
[Android General] lovermed:
+1
[Android General] clothednblack:
Absolutely not 3d, especially compared to the other ones that appear 3d, but it's the best launcher so they could call it "crap 3d launcher" and I would still support it.

Stickied with my post-it-note 3
[Android General] smeddy:
Also, when it first launched, there wasn't much in the way of 3d launchers out there.
[Android General] yaatzek:
It's not about carrying, I really like the way tsf developes, I just wanted to point out that the name 3d shouldn't be there. Transition effects are also in nova, apex and other flat launchers, are they 3d?
[Android General] tool_king:
But Next and SPB also aren't real (!) 3D launchers, or do you have a 3D cinema feeling using them? Eye candy is just more important for them, that's all.
[Android General] ammarsg:
Not 3D comparred with next and other 3d launchers but its good and nice also need more work and adding more 3d action to it… we wait the next release and see
[Android General] yaatzek:
You're totally right I don't want any fake 3d effects. I'm only saying the name of our beloved launcher can be misleading.
[Android General] tool_king:
Well, you might be right in this point, but when the first beta was released, it was probably the launcher with the best 3D-like effects in it. So from a historical point of view, the name of the launcher is alright imho.
[Android General] yaatzek:
As this thread isn't very active you know we have to think of such stupid things on which we can discuss ;)
[Android General] sinjiyo:
http://youtu.be/EeaC62iamls

ahah ;)
[Android General] yaatzek:
Nice one [MENTION=2352859]sinjiyo[/MENTION]! Looks awesome. You probably have some beta team, but what do you think of bringing betas to bigger public? It could bring the devs lots of feedback before official releases and it's quite easy to manage through g+ community.
[Android General] Bashar Jarad:
looks like great :good:
[Android General] raja.pandu54:
When is the new update Bro...I'm legally waiting. It's already month ending. Please update ASAP :)
[Android General] tool_king:
Month ending is April 30th. And the devs just said that they will try to get it ready til end of April, they didn't promise or announce anything.
[Android General] raja.pandu54:
In the last 3 1/2 months there is no update in TSF. In the next launcher several updates and adding new features. I accepted TSF doing fabulous job. But it's taking Tooooo much of time.
[Android General] scoobmd:
Yeah, it's tough waiting but reading about 3.0 got me excited again.

I had stopped using TSF due to lag and restarts but it seems smoother on my new Note 3 when I re-installed today.
[Android General] sinjiyo:
not far..

http://youtu.be/WA32ftczDgs
[Android General] sinjiyo:
nosea effect.

http://youtu.be/c9DZaMRZaj8
[Android General] ammarsg:
nice effect ....we wait it :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[Android General] MRFERRARI23:
Looking good can't wait for the update to release its been a hot minute!

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Android General] yaatzek:
[MENTION=2352859]sinjiyo[/MENTION] are there any news regarding the free version? I remember some time ago you said something about it. And yes, new effects look awesome.
[Android General] sinjiyo:
free version not ready yet.

drawer is 100% over http://youtu.be/lX5uDB2yCdM

multi and single selection, folder and setting. :)
[Android General] MRFERRARI23:
Hello May 1st please let my TSF shell update come soon ;)~

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Android General] yaatzek:
Take it easy guys, there were no promises. In the mean time maybe we can share how we use tsf. Do you guys use side bar, gestures, etc. How many desktops do you have?
[Android General] Jonny176:
I use five screens and the sidebar.. love TSF I look forward to some new stuff but everything works so flawlessly now :)

sent via the quad dimension
[Android General] clothednblack:
Yep, sidebar, 5 screens, non scrolling wallpaper, red and black themed

Stickied with my post-it-note 3
[Android General] willmaister:
Yooo

Pls what's the name of the clock widget you are using?
[Android General] Jonny176:
It's a clock made by twoms here's the link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52162804

Post your Phone Home Screen **BE APPROPRIATE**

sent via the quad dimension
[Android General] tool_king:
Thank you for your valuable information. :p
[Android General] ammarsg:
Restart tsf take long time sometime 10second for me at least as dev said they reduce it to 1 or 2 second ..we wait that update as it look nice and have many changes
[Android General] smeddy:
Off topic but the Live Wallpaper Weather Screen works amazing with this. Uses your own choices of backgrounds with a slight tint of weather over the top (sun, moon, stars, clouds, lightning! Yet to see snow in Sydney!). I have no connection to the wallpaper but I've used it for a solid year without getting bored.

Also I've said this before but I'll say it again. There's one thing to create longing, but later it turns to aggravation. If the team thinks it will be ready at end of April, they should still say end of May to allay that frustration.