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[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
ALL micro male connectors have pin 4, its just not attached to anything depending on the cables intention. Its the female ends that sometimes get their pin 4 omitted, in my experience ( I have never seen a male connector missing a pin). It would cost to much for the manufacturer to omit pin 4 on a male connector. But its super easy to do so on the female connectors. Also pin 4 of the standard usb cable is attached to pin 5 of the micro usb side, which Im sure you knew.

Well the first tester decided to send his cable back to me. He managed to get it to insert and it seemed to work as advertised here in this thread, but said its just to tight a fit. I was going to check with the Kindle over at BB to see if all of my connectors are that way, but sadly I do not feel good enough today after all. So, tomorrow I will try again. For now Im getting ready for my massage therapist to arrive for a 4 hour trading session, with popcorn and movies, w00t.
[Kindle Fire General] InsertUniqueHandle:
I get confused on the male-female connector stuff. Doesn't the kindle have the male connector?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
No, devices usually have female ports, and the cables are almost always male ends.
[Kindle Fire General] InsertUniqueHandle:
Thanks, that clears it up.
[Kindle Fire General] nfinitefx45:
if you guys are looking for a clean easy way to do this check out this ebay guy this is what I did makes life easy.

This is not the guy I delt with for mine but he has the same product

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20Pcs-New-Micro-USB-B-Male-5Pin-Socket-Connector-DIY-/170663212593?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D270831768541%26ps%3D54
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Yes that is the same connector as everyone uses these days for custom cable/jig mods. FYI, They will be a very tight fit according to people who have tried them on their Kindle Fires. But they work just fine imo.
[Kindle Fire General] mark_a_l:
The only thing I will add is that I highly recommend using a resistor. I have to laugh when I see pictures of some of these made with paperclips or whatever. One short to ground or to one of the other data pins 'could' smoke check your cable, your computer USB port or the Kindle port. Just do it right and use one.
[Kindle Fire General] ch0mch0m:
how many ohm do you suggest for the resistor?
[Kindle Fire General] mark_a_l:
1K ohm seems to work and is a very common value. And if shorted, the most it will draw is 5ma.
[Kindle Fire General] ra0ultortugas:
SkOrPn:

I like your commitment to producing a quality product.

Count me in for one.

thanks,
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Thank you. Looks like UPS is at their normal routine of making excuses why they could not deliver yesterday. Emergency conditions out of ups control. Sad thing is that happens to 95% of all my UPS deliveries. If it was any other delivery service including usps first class it would be in my hands already.

Not sure why Monoprice refuses to tell you what service they plan on using during the checkout process. Sure would have saved a lot of hasle had I known.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Its 5:20pm and he still has not arrived with my cables. Im starting to believe hes going to pull the same excuse tonight, which will ruin any chance I had of building some this weekend. If he only knew just how much I despise UPS...
[Kindle Fire General] OmgitzFire:
That makes two of us, when UPS does deliever on the schedule date its around 8:00 p.m. around here :confused:
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
OK I finally got the cables around 8pm lol. I now remember why I avoid UPS at all costs now, the poor guy is like 80 years old. I was all prepared to have some words but when I opened the door all I could do was be as friendly as I could. I have special arrangements with UPS for me to pickup my own packages but I have to know a head of time that I am using ups. Apparently Monoprice hides the fact they are using them and for good reason...

Well tomorrow morning I will get started on some SkOrPn Factory Cables and hopefully have a listing up by January 1st or so. In the meantime I would like everyone interested to send me another PM but this time please title it "Factory Cable Request" and in the pm make sure you give me your PayPal email address so I can send you an official PayPal transaction request. Also make sure you are using a confirmed address. However I would prefer everyone wait for my eBay listing so I can rack up some more good feedback, lol...

SkOrPn
[Kindle Fire General] xrishox:
so i successfully made and tested my factory cable. I made one joint pretty bad, but nothings touching, and it isn't going to fall apart.

I used the breakout board from the first page. ( i recommend buying more than 1 incase you mess up. luckily I did it right on my first try.) I used a 1k ohm resistor. and to answer my older question... it doesn't appear to matter what kind of usb cable you use. i used a mini usb cable for my cable. pics incoming!

soldering is definately pretty tough, but if i can do it ANYONE can do it.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
You should probably remove more of that shielding from the cable bud. It is coming very close to the red 5v wire. This shielding is soldered to the connectors housing on the USB A side effectively grounding it, thus if you were to accidentally touch it to the red wire, or have something rub up against it and then touch the red wire you could kill your usb on your computer or destroy your device, or both.

Also make sure the connectors 4 solder joints holding it to the PCB are thoroughly soldered. I ordered 250 of these once from Sparkfun and none of them were soldered. The only thing that was holding the connector to the PCB, besides gravity, lol, was the tiny usb pins and their tiny solder pads. This caused me much more work than these breakout boards were worth.
[Kindle Fire General] xrishox:
you mean the metal strands on the outside? like the wire bundler thing?

i did i cut a lot more of it off, i just didn't do it untill after i took the pic. thank you for pointing that out. god knows i need all the tips i can get. the only thing I'm worried about is the way the ground wire is coming out of the solder point its pointed in a direction that it could potentially touch the wire next to it, but it would really need to be forced for that to happen. so as long as i'm careful i think it should be fine. this cable isn't something i'm planning on using all the time, just incase of an emergency.

oh and another thing i forgot to mention, and I'm not sure if it's true so someone correct me if i'm wrong... you should always plug the factory cable into an EXTERNALLY powered usb hub, just incase something shorts you'll only destroy the hub and not potentially your entire computer... though that won't protect your device.. only your computer.

hey does anyone know if there's a complete list of devices that are factory cable compatible?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Kindle Fire

Xoom

Atrix

Droid X

Droid 2

Droid 2 Global

Droid Pro

Droid Pro Global

Droid 1

V9m﻿

Napoleon

And probably more. I got that list from the site who sells this cable at the bottom of the op. Not sure how accurate it is.
[Kindle Fire General] InsertUniqueHandle:
I made my own cable too. I also used a 1k resistor. I used a micro USB cable from Walmart that only had the power pins connected, but all the pins were there to use. I found a tiny case from another type of phone connector that I had in my junk pile. All the wires and resistor fit inside it. I even had space to put a small switch so that I can switch off pin 4 to make it a normal cable. I'll post some pics when I get home tonight.

Tried it out today at work and it works great. Un-bricked my kindle and will soon put the original rom on it.
[Kindle Fire General] smirkis:
what about these? they put the lg p990 in fastboot, would it work for us?

http://www.gsmsp.com/products/Servi...LG/3_in_1_micro_USB__LG_Cable__343_19133.html

sent from my kindle fire
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
LOL, that is fancy as hell, but no its the wrong resistance values. I wonder if it has a plastic plate with screws instead of a molded plastic base? Maybe it is easily modified to work on motorola? lol
[Kindle Fire General] InsertUniqueHandle:
This is what I came up with, but it's not something I want to build more of. It took me the better part of a day and 3 different type cables. But I like doing stuff like this (only once). I tested it out and it works! I rekindled my Kindle (from bricked).

Pics are huge! How do I just include them as an attachment? Do I have to be a paid member? I didn't see the attachment button while writting the post.

This is the cable, switch and connector while I was putting it together.

Finished cable with selector switch (liquid paper to make it pop out).

This pic is blurry (taken with iPhone, Macro not good). It shows the up-side-down selector switch and the resistor inside the case i found that housed a phone power connector.

Me
[Kindle Fire General] b63:
don't quick reply - use reply - there are all available options
[Kindle Fire General] mark_a_l:
FWIW, I made my cable today using the sparkfun adapter. Made it with a jumper to switch it between modes. Used a 1K resistor and it works fine. Fastboot gives all of the proper responces.

For those who may want to know (I did). Putting it in fastboot mode with the factory cable is only in effect while the cable is connected. In other words once you remove the cable and reboot the Fire, it's back to normal. So it's safe to test the cable without having to worry about getting it back to normal boot mode.
[Kindle Fire General] jamend:
I was able to make one out of an MHL adapter (micro USB to HDMI, bought it for $10 on ebay for my SGS2).
[Kindle Fire General] smirkis:
did it have 5 wires making it easier to jump it or did u still have to solder the jumper? what was the benefit of usin that adapter?
[Kindle Fire General] smirkis:
whoops, pls delete!
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
I have these cables in stock now. Just PM me if you want one.
[Kindle Fire General] smirkis:
sent u my paypal. are they gonna look like the one u posted a page or two back?

sent from my kindle fire
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Yes they will. Thanks
[Kindle Fire General] ttabbal:
I received my SkOrPn Factory Cable. Quick review.

As per his instructions, plug the micro-USB end into the Kindle, THEN plug the computer end in.

Steps:

1) Turn OFF the Fire. Wait a bit, 30sec or so, as the screen blanks before it's REALLY off... at least on CM7 anyway.

2) Plug the micro end into the Fire.

3) Plug the A end into the computer.

4) Profit. ... The Fire will boot to fastboot and stay there. I have FireFireFire installed, so I get the yellow triangle, but it never goes away. "fastboot devices" shows "0123456789ABCDEF	fastboot" connected.

Disconnecting the factory cable and connecting a normal cable causes fastboot to not show the device anymore. Looks like you need to flash with the factory cable if you boot with it. Reconnecting the factory cable doesn't get the computer seeing it again, so you will have to hold the power button to shut down if you get stuck in this state. So just don't remove the factory cable until you are done flashing. I flashed a boot.img without any trouble, worked as you would expect fastboot to work. When completed, I found that "fastboot reboot" sends you right back into fastboot. :D So the way to finish up is to remove the cable, then hold the Fire's power button down till it turns off. Then just hit power again and it will boot right up.

The cable is very well made, as expected. The micro end that has been modified looks professionally done, like the Samsung JIGs he sells. IMO, the asking price is justified by the work that obviously went into it. Like the Samsung JIGs, I recommend everyone have one if they want to mod. It's the fastest most reliable way to get into fastboot if you really screw things up.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Wow ttabbal thanks for the nice review and information. I will modify my order form and factory cable information to include what you found. I can now include instructions with the cable thanks to your findings.

I have shipped 8 of these already so lets hope others chime in with their experience as well...
[Kindle Fire General] bigjkcfan:
I too purchased a SkOrPn Factory Cable and the quality of the cable is great. SkOrPn himself is a great guy too, very nice and very helpful. I am still having trouble though getting it into fastboot mode. In windows and linux both if I use just a standard cable, adb recognizes the kindle. In linux when I use the factory cable and do fastboot devices, nothing shows up and adb does not recognize it either. In windows neither adb or fastboot devices commands work because it shows up as unknown device and I try to reinstall the same drivers that made adb work and it just gives me an error message, so I am thinking the cable is doing its job or at least part of its job but I have a feeling I am having driver problems too?

Its also worth noting that I have the problem where I can't use the adb shell command
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Yeah I would not know about your problem. However I do know that the phone will not allow services such as ADB to work so long you have it connected to a factory cable, well according to the experts anyway. Maybe someone else can chime in to help you solve your problem. I promise you the the cable is made correctly, so its something wrong with your device or computer, lol... Like you said maybe drivers...

Make sure you remove the battery, plug the cable into the phone first, then into the computer. I believe it should just boot into fastboot according to both of my testers.

Keep us informed with anything you learn through your trouble shooting process please...
[Kindle Fire General] xrishox:
i havent bought one of yours; i made my own, but what you have to do is power off the device first. (you can't remove the battery from the kindle fire) then you plug it in and it should power on into fastboot mode. what screen do you get when you plug it in? does anything happen? does it boot normally or go to a static image? if it's booting into a static image then it probably is booting into fastboot mode and your pc just isnt recognising it. i would recommend trying it under linux since the driver situation under windows is a total catastrophe. are you using fastboot with the developer id added in? if not try that. do you have firefirefire installed?

I have firefirefire installed and fastboot devices works just fine for me.
[Kindle Fire General] bigjkcfan:
When I plug in a standard usb cable the kindle fire screen will show up, then go black, then come back up and stay, and adb works fine (besides adb shell), but when I plug the fastboot cable in just the kindle fire logo comes up and stays, it does not flash like it does with the standard cable, so I am sure it is in fastboot mode but even when I do fastboot devices in ubuntu I get nothing

I had followed this link to get linux up and going:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1430038

It will recognize when in adb mode but sadly as I stated above when I do fastboot devices, I get nothing.

At one time it was running CM7 and I had gotten TWRP working and was reverting it back to stock and after it rebooted it just stayed on that same kindle fire screen. Is my device even fixable or is it still a driver issue?
[Kindle Fire General] xrishox:
well that definately is fastboot mode.

you could try doing a

fastboot -i 0x1949 devices

or

fastboot -i 0x18D1 devices

i think that's the id that firefirefire uses if you installed it.

and don't forget to put this in your ~/.android/adb_usb.ini

0x1949
[Kindle Fire General] bigjkcfan:
Thanks xrishox for your help! I finally managed to get TWRP installed, honestly I still don't know how I got it to install, but now its back fully working. Thanks again for the help!!

And a big thanks to SkOrPn for making the cable and getting me one of the first ones, it is WELL WORTH IT!!!
[Kindle Fire General] OmgitzFire:
I too just received SkOrPn s cable but I have not had any luck on restoring my kindle,

I fully turn off my kindle then plug the cable in and it boots to the 'Kindle Fire' logo but when I search for fastboot devices it doesn't do anything and nothing shows up

any suggestions ?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Does the cable boot up the phone without the battery installed? Just curious...
[Kindle Fire General] OmgitzFire:
Its the kindle fire so it does , but it turns on the kindle fie as soon as I plugged it in in my computer so I assumed everthing was going well but for some reason it doesn't recognize it in fastboot mode.
[Kindle Fire General] xrishox:
you can't take the battery out of the kindle. it's not a phone, it's a tablet.

and the 2 people above are booting into fastboot. the static kindle image is fastboot mode, so no worries, your cables are working perfectly.

to everyone who is having trouble with fastboot in windows i would either do a lot of searching around on the forums looking for the correct drivers and configuration to get it working, because it does work. either that or install linux (ubuntu is an easy distro for example), because in my experiance it's a lot easier to do in linux.

to all the people in the future if you are getting a static image when you are plugging in the cable that is fastboot mode. the cable is working fine. if it isn't being recognised by your computer it's a configuration/driver issue. there is a lot of information on this forum that will fix these problems, you just have to do a little bit of searching.

if you're running windows then this thread might be a good place to start. it's a newbie utility for installing drivers and changing bootmodes and all sorts of nifty stuff in windows.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1399889

i've never used it since i don't use windows, but it's a place to start.
[Kindle Fire General] OmgitzFire:
yes I managed to get TWRP installed but since I want to restore to the factory rom

how do I push the .zip file to my kindle ?

I tried adb push c:/etc

but it just refreshes the adb command

any ideas ?
[Kindle Fire General] smirkis:
u gotta cd to the sdktools directory that fastboot iis in.

I got my cable today as well and it works great. I turn off my kindle, plug it in and it powers up in fastboot, I flashed the new fff1.1 and just unplugged and rebooted. its quick n simple and u don't get stuck in fastboot.

thanks skorpn
[Kindle Fire General] OmgitzFire:
yea Im sure it's in the right section,

also I can't seem to run adb shell , it says:

"exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory (2)"

EDIT: My kindle is now unbricked !! :]

Thanks SkOrPn for the cable !!
[Kindle Fire General] xrishox:
are you in fastboot when you do that? i don't think adb works in fastboot mode. only fastboot works in fastboot mode.

if you are getting that normally you may have messed something up and need to reflash. is your kindle bricked? if so good thing you got the factory cable, because you can install twrp using fastboot to fix your recovery and then you can reflash whatever rom you want from there. you can also use fastboot to flash and boot kernels.
[Kindle Fire General] OmgitzFire:
it wouldn't pick up adb shell even with the regular usb cable,

but anyways I fixed it by installing TWRP and then going into it then on mount sd and from there I transferred the stock rom into my fire and then finally restored ;]
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Thanks for the information. Its a little daunting to build something like this for peeps and not have the devices in question to test it on. All I can do for this community is read, read and read some more and then try and make the best cable I can with what I have. Giving out tech support for the Kindle (or motorola for that matter) isnt going to be the same like it is for Samsung. Im a Galaxy S smartphone guru, but the last Motorola device I ever had was the old school razr flip phone, and I never even tried to modify anything on it... lol, so thanks for helping here I really appreciate it.

Your most welcome smirkis. I hope this makes life just that tiny bit better for you...

@ everyone else, just wanted to advise people to please be careful with their SkOrPn cable. Because their is no more material holding the cable firmly into the connector casing I believe this cord could easily be pulled out. So, if you want this cable to last a long time please remember to insert and remove by holding the connector case firmly between your fingers. In other words please do not pull the cable out via the cord. SureBonder tech support assured me there is no known hot glue with the bonding strength better than what they supplied me, but even still I have NOT done any pull strength tests to see just how strong it would be.

Below is another image I took today. I got this down to a TEE now. Nice and clean work and imo it looks about as professionally done as can possibly be. The only way it could be better is if it wasn't cheap Chinese parts to begin with. No offense to any Chinese members here :p lmao. As you can see I am now simply wrapping up the metal shielding into a ball and coating it with hot glue to try and give this that little extra strength. NOTE: Yeah I know it looks like the solder is almost touching, but trust me its not. Its just the picture making it look like that. There's probably a good 10 sheets of paper spacing in between each pins solder pad. Not to mention hardened hot glue in between each pin after I clamp the two halves together. Hope you guys/gals like my work... :D
[Kindle Fire General] xrishox:
no problem. i appreciate all the hard work you are putting into supporting hardware for our device. that's a lot more helpful than what i'm doing.

supplying technical support for these things is what the rest of the community is for. :P
[Kindle Fire General] lmntone:
Just finished making my factory cable. At first, I was using too high of a resistor and didn't realize it. After changing it out for a correct one, it works fine. However I did notice that my KF doesn't care which cable end is plugged in first.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Of course your device does not care, lol... But it sure is hell of a lot safer to plug the KF side in first BEFORE the PC Standard USB side. Pins 4 and 5 are VERY close to each other so if you have the standard side in first you have already applied power to pin 4, and if your aim is off by just a tiny bit you could cause a short inside your device...

Just a friendly warning as I already seen it happen...
[Kindle Fire General] jesspurple:
Hello, SkOrPn!

I'm interested in buying one of your cables. How would I go about doing that?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Just send me a PM titled "Factory Cable" and I will do the rest...
[Kindle Fire General] mcimo88:
OK, so if I order a breakout board from post 1, I just have to put a resistor between pins 1 and 4, and then I have a factory cable, right? Or am I over simplifying it?

EDIT: Or now that I think about it, buying one of your cables might be the best way... how do you handle shipping?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Yeah you have to solder all 4 wires onto the breakout board as well, otherwise you wont be able to flash it, lol... Just PM me when you can...
[Kindle Fire General] smirkis:
skorpn makes awesome cables. it saves the hassle if ur no pro solderer!
[Kindle Fire General] qmatteoq:
What to do after that I have a factory cable

Hi everybody,

I have a bricked Kindle Fire: I've tried every possible solution detailed in this forum, but no one has worked. Actually, it's in the "loop reboot" state: everytime I turn it on it says that the Fire is damaged and that the device needs to be restored to factory settings.

Since I can't access to fastboot, I can't get any of the availble solutions working.

Luckily, a kind friend of mine has agreed to help me building a factory cable and he will give it to me next week.

What I haven't fully understood reading all the post is what I have to do once I've connected the Fire to my PC with the Factory Cable to get it working again.

Does the Kindle Fire Utility fit my needs?

Thanks in advance for the support.

Cheers