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[Android General] Sol Ido:
Well looks interesting, i'll put my noise on it if any release.

But on the deep, there's a lot of usefull manipulation tricks, animations and effects but after i've setup all of this, how is it really more efficient than for example Zeam ?

I still get my icons, my widget etc etc.

I need to see if i really get some edge of every day usability.

Thx for sharing the link.
[Android General] YoungSinema:
SentioUI, SlickUI, and many others have YouTube videos and web sites as well.
[Android General] Krijs:
Alright, I've only read a few posts into this quote trail, but I wanted to share my viewpoint.

Sorry, but to me (as well), the tone of the post came across as: "if you don't agree with me, you're either stupid or don't have a sense of taste."

Read your post. Read it again. Pay attention to the tone of your comment regarding that no one could tell you that they thought this UI wasn't fugly. Also read the comment below that touts extensive experience with artsy subjects. Do you get where I'm going with this?

No one has an issue with YOUR opinion, just the way it's conveyed. You could have simply said "Personally, the UI just doesn't appeal to me. I'm not a fan of the animations used because x, y, z and features a, b and c could have been improved by implementing d, e or f."

See how much more constructive and post-provoking (in the positive sense!) this is? It would have circumvented needless confrontation with other users too.

It seems the original argument was against the looks and resourcing was dragged into it as something to leverage to get the upper-hand in the debate imo. As I said though, I didn't read far back at all, but majority of the posts seemed focused on looks more than anything.

The video obviously shows the launcher with EVERYTHING turned on max so it can show off the entire feature set. In reality, most people probably wouldn't have half the features enabled compared to the video. I'm sure animations could be turned off if they were too resource intensive for your phone. There's always a work-around for things, but if you haven't tested it, you can't really argue that it's resource-heavy, which is the same reason why no one's contesting your point regarding it.

Yes, with everything turned on, you'd more-than-likely struggle to run it on legacy phones because it does *appear* (but, that is an assumption) to do some heavy lifting. Who knows though, maybe they have a great dev team that'll push some efficient code and we'll all be pleasantly surprised.
[Android General] marnox8:
Wow. The description of the video says it was demonstrated on a Desire HD! I didn't know my HD was capable of this sort of animations..
[Android General] mcord11758:
As a third party just reading your comments all that comes to mind is pot calling the kettle black. Allot of calling people kids while acting like one
[Android General] sinjiyo:
I think this launcher will be out wednesday later week.

谢子杭 *在*2012/02/21 at 15:28 *说道： 炫的不得了！//@安卓软件: 小安刚接到线报，这款炫爆的桌面启动器最快下周三就会推出APK安装包供下载！ 下周三! 下周三下周三! 下周三下周三下周三! 期待吧！！！！1

Google traduction

Xie child Hang in 2012/02/21 at 15:28, said: Hyun's incredible! / / @ Andrews software: small security has just received a tip, this hyun burst desktop launcher fastest next Wednesday will launch APK install package available for download! Next Wednesday! Next Wednesday, next Wednesday! Next Wednesday next Wednesday next Wednesday! Look forward to it! ! ! !

Source tsfui's blog

Hum...why not.
[Android General] Ａna．Ｊゝ:
i like this launcher!!!
[Android General] tamagotono:
price

Anyone see a price listed anywhere? Free is great, of course, but probably wouldn't mind paying for it, if it is as good as it is advertised.
[Android General] MaksMod:
thank you very good
[Android General] catman51:
Well, if we wait any longer we can compare it to SPB shell, which hasn't been updated since last September.
[Android General] jenizaro:
But SPB is not in beta and dont have so many bugs :)
[Android General] JudgeDredd67:
Ok then, fix a bug or two. Somthing! Update your progress on your blog. Something! One new feature not a everything. Just anything!

It says beta but a $15 beta? How much is the final release going to be?

This would be nice, if it was at least updated to where I could use it on my device. Really? Making all the folks that made themes that help sell TSF responsable for a firmware update?

Not trying to offend anyone, just thoughts that cross my mind when I read this topic.
[Android General] jenizaro:
You read all thread and understand this???? Nobody thinks that theme makers are responsible for the update (by the way not a firmware update its just a software). Sinjiyo is connected with the Devs of TSF and gives us info about the process when learns sth new. So... The only responsible thing for this update problem is TSF Teams itself...Everybody in this thread has great respect for Sinjiyo and thanks him for sharing information and his works for free.
[Android General] JudgeDredd67:
I very much appreciate Sinjiyo's work, I appreciate the work of the TSF team. I am however disapointed in the progress. This disapointment comes from investing in what would seem to be a very progressive product only to see fresh new products exceed and surpass. You may think that my disapointment comes from paying for a product that I can not use ( or use very limmited ) but this is not the case. I just hate to see such a good product that I felt so positive about, and give money to support, get left behind. Its not the $15 bucks, its watching something that I thought was so great fall behind. I was so proud to show what my device looked like and what it could do. Now I have to make due with what other software is out the there.

My apology for offending that is truly not my intention, only to express concern.
[Android General] jenizaro:
I understand you mate. You are totally right. The money is not a problem. We are a group of people care about TSF but TSF team does not care about us. They even dont update their website and dont give any info about progress. They say it will be ready when its ready. I think update is not near cause there is no mail in my inbox about translation of new version.
[Android General] schimm:
Why do I get the feeling all three launchers are produced by the same people.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] L00n:
well,the end is near .. then what?
[Android General] yaatzek:
They said "we might" which means they don't have to.

I really love the idea of this launcher but I'm really really tired up waiting for fixing this annoying bugs like everyone here. Maybe we should all together write them that we don't want anymore tsf shell and let them give our money back :D Maybe this will speed up the development.

This long time waiting for an update wold have been much much easier foru users to deal with, when there would be some sort of info from the devs. Just a little would do.
[Android General] chandler929:
Hello,The Tsf Shell team (David?)

Please fix the bugs for the last version (1.7.9.4)

the biggest problem is widget issue,it made the tsf shell out of use...

I'm waiting 2 months and angry,can't wait anymore...
[Android General] yaatzek:
Odp: Android3D UI - TSF Shell Pro

This is no support thread of tsf devs, for now it's a thread for people who are frustrated with tsf.
[Android General] tconc8594:
response as of 2/27

Hey guys first time posting on xda, been reading for years.

I sent tsf shell an email to the point of the fact that they seem to be absentee developers and for an app that is 16 dollars its just inexcusable.

I received a response this morning simply stating that they plan to have the 1.8.0 release out in February.....

its 2/27 fyi haha

Don't know whats up with these guys
[Android General] jenizaro:
They dont know the names of months i think :D or they mean Feb 2014 :eek:
[Android General] mb523:
I just wrote to them, as well. I simply asked them if they've abandoned the app. But the truth is I can't imagine they will say they have because they want new users to continue buying it.:mad:
[Android General] yaatzek:
Odp: Android3D UI - TSF Shell Pro

Sinjiyo give us some hope!
[Android General] catman51:
Yes, it would be nice to hear something from anyone about what is going on.
[Android General] j76ms:
Hopefully that means we get the update tomorrow. :fingers-crossed:
[Android General] catman51:
Don't hold your breath!!
[Android General] mani0608:
My Conversation with TSF - Not so encouraging - So Wait

Mani R

Feb 27 16:01 (CST)

Hi TSF team,

I have been using your launcher for almost a year now and i am really

disappointed with the recent delay in update.

We are really scared that TSF would become like SPB Shell which doesn't

update and no information on it from any source.

Now, TSF also has fallen into the same category. I have two requests for

you,

1) Kindly let me know the exact date of release of next version

2) Please do use you website to convey the recent development thats

happening before every release, also please

post a intro video, (this you used to do before, but now stopped) into

your site and youtube,

Thanks for this awesome launcher.

Thanks & Regards,

Manikandan Ravikumar

=========================================================

Dear User,

We are sorry for the inconvenience caused to you.

We have not been able to release TSF Shell version 1.8 since the new widgets (SMS widget and Clock widget) are still under debugging. Please believe that we are sparing no effort in working, we also wish to let our users experience the fun of the new version in the premise of the stability of the software.

Thanks for your support, comprehension and concern!!

Best regards,

Technical Support

TSFUI

We constantly work on improving our support and your feedback is very helpful for us.

=========================================================

Hi,

Thanks for the effort.

But you doesn't answer any of my questions and i have also learnt from other users that you give the same reply to all the mails.

Please provide a proper support to the users. We actually believed in you and paid you

to support you and we expect the same support from you as well.

Kindly provided me a proper reply and i dont need any COPY-PASTE kinda replies.

Thanks & Regards,

Manikandan Ravikumar
[Android General] dawabz94:
... and the more we wait, the more we expects from the update ...

I hope this one - if released one day - will meet all our expectations ...
[Android General] mysticbluebmw:
By the time they release an update, I would have moved on to Sense 5. It's really too bad they can't just release an update sooner with bug fixes, as that seems to be a problem for myself and others. I'm tired of the widget problems, like the white blocks and bleeding through to other panels, as well as the random shell restarts. Backup configs don't even contain widget info, like golauncher does. At least Ti backup does. I don't care as much for new widgets if they can't just fix the problems already existent. I really do like the way it functions in every other regard, so hopefully they will address the bugs, because then it would be a great daily driver. But so far, over a quarter of a year since the last update is very discouraging.
[Android General] j76ms:
just noticed that NEXT updated to 1.20 I don't use NEXT but I may have to give it a whirl.
[Android General] catman51:
I wrote them about bug fixes first, new items later. Have yet to receive a response.
[Android General] schimm:
Check out their facebook page. Next has problems with the launcher losing its default status all the time. Over 40 comments so far. Don't give money to these people.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] JudgeDredd67:
I have not experienced this and I use Next because I can't use TSF.
[Android General] mb523:
After being frustrated a month ago when TSF wasn't being updated, I purchased Next. I really tried to like it and I don't at all. Go Launcher is actually way way better than Next, and happens to be free. It seems like NEXT would be similar to TSF at first, but the more you use it, you'll realize it's not a good launcher at all. The only widget I like of theirs is the music ones, the others are awful. And really there is nothing to like about it.
[Android General] L00n:
they fix that already.

currently using this launcher all i can say that it is getting better with every update.
[Android General] jenizaro:
At least they have a facebook page! Look at TSF Team! there is no twitter, facebook. They dont even update their own web page for a Year.Two or three maybe four chinese guy took our money and we wait them to develop a software. The number of total downloads of TSF Shell is 10.000+. That means great money in China. Maybe they dont have time develop the software because of spending the money.
[Android General] catman51:
Next has no problems with staying as default for me, and yes, TSF needs to be WAY better at communication.
[Android General] Jonny176:
I originally had problems with next... Widgets not keeping up with system I emailed the developer and had a response in a day... Update followed a day or so later.... No problems... I wish the Tsf team were as attentive... But i waited a week to get the same generic email that everyone else got.... Bye for now Tsf.... Good luck
[Android General] schimm:
If you actually read the comments you would see the patch creates other problems. Patch one thing break another. They acknowledge the problem so there is no need to use anecdotal cases to deny it.
[Android General] catman51:
Some may have problems as with anything. For me it's working perfectly with no hang-ups whatsoever.
[Android General] schimm:
But 'some' have paid $16 for a product that does not work. Btw if you look at the app store comments the second most helpful comment is one the describes my problem.
[Android General] catman51:
Same with TSF, actually with the moving widgets, TSF comes off worse.
[Android General] j76ms:
New Launcher posted that I saw posted somehwere like AC or Phandroid. You all need to give Vire Launcher free from the Play Store a look. Seriously looks awesome and runs VERY smooth. It is limited but still in bata. VERY promising. Found this youtube link...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf3U3tz95Ps
[Android General] sinjiyo:
Hey :)

Well I have some info. Team work hard. Really really hard. I can't say too much but static dock will be crazy and very special. All part of android widget is totaly rewriting.

When !! I don't know because nobody know.

And we finally find a good way to fix jellybean for paid theme. I will update soon my theme and share the package for free With other themer.
[Android General] jenizaro:
Welcome back mate:cool: We were in a chaos till you send this message :D

What do you mean by "crazy and very special static dock"? Isn't it just a normal dock like all launchers?
[Android General] sinjiyo:
No, it seems it isn't like a normal dock. But I know nothing more. Dev want to keep the surprise.
[Android General] tconc8594:
That was underwhelming

Just got another generic email from them about the widgets not being done.

I mean maybe I'm alone, but who cares about the damn widgets? I would much rather seem them focusing on stability overall functionality, and other innovations to the launcher it's self. Not a cartoony sms widget.
[Android General] schimm:
I'm hanging on for tsf. Next was refunded as I couldn't get it to stop resetting its default....and it wasnt very revolutionary at all. I hope tsf comes through cause they have something very cool....it just needs to work.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] L00n:
+1 :good:
[Android General] I r o n M a n:
Edited: sorry! Just saw your replies. I was being very critical..:P when I saw it's gonna be updated.

Super excited about new update. Been waiting for it since forever.
[Android General] JudgeDredd67:
Sorry to say but your wait is not over. We are still where we were, but it does give us a glimmer of hope that a friend of a friend that has conversed with someone on the team said they are working hard.

It could be said that I am working hard at trying to remain positive. Technology is a fast moving thing, one moment your out in front the next you’re in the dust.
[Android General] schimm:
Btw for those who believed I over exaggerated the Next default setting issue.....believe me.....they didn't do this just for my phone.:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...0bGF1bmNoZXIuZGVmYXVsdGxhdW5jaGVycGF0Y2giXQ..

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] L00n:
exactly what we said on the previous page. anyway the issue is fixed + yesterday the launcher was updated with new features . nuff for that can't wait for TSF new goodies .
[Android General] schimm:
My guess is that it isn't fixed. The Next FB page shows lots of people complaining that the patch which was already available through the Next developers caused other problems. I haven't checked today but that's how it was last nite. My guess is that they haven't figured it out yet and they just dumped something in the play store. In any case I don't have to deal with them any longer. Even when it works Next doesn't deliver value for the money imo.
[Android General] catman51:
Having said that I had no problems with Next, the major problem is that TSF is completely unusable as is. The widget problem is bigger than anything that is wrong with Next.
[Android General] schimm:
I agree with that. Scrolling performance is also lacking.
[Android General] desh_iit:
This is my comment & exp for this latest version -

"

All android users please before buying this read this review. Used to love this launcher but seems they are not listening to the customers or fixing the bugs, already pointed earlier -

1. Widgets become white boxes

2. Getting wrong widget from other page.

3. Reloading issue and reload takes ages

4. Freezes in app drawer, requires restart of the shell

5. Some themes does not appear in the theme menu. ... It's around two and half month but no fix , amazing. Is this launcher dead?

"

I wonder how can these developers did not give fix for these existing issues. First make this stable then add feature. What they except first buy then wait for loooong time get stable version ??
[Android General] jenizaro:
Widget selection list scrolling is also laggy even if you dont have so many widgets. I tried the same thing in Vire Launcher. Widget list is scrolling like butter smooth.

Today i got a mail from Tsf Team and release date is still not certain :eek:
[Android General] CCallahan:
Have to say I am really confused by this thread. I have almost no issues with latest version on my device. No freezes & widgets display without issue. Also have 13 paid themes and they all show up and apply without issue. Interface is fast and smooth. Only issues I have currently are when trying to select different theme wallpaper the selection screen locks up and kicks me out everytime and sometimes when moving widgets they get stuck on other screens but really not there. A reload of the theme fixes this and/or locking images on the screen works as well.

Maybe a lot of it is dependent on the device being used? I do agree that my emails from support are less than acceptable (automated responses).

Widget list is not "buttery" smooth on mine but is not laggy by any means.
[Android General] tconc8594:
Those dates are from 2011/2012. 2/28/12 was the last time the posted on their news feed, over a year ago.

These guys are just out of touch, its a shame really. They don't seem to understand the key to have a happy customer base is communication
[Android General] CCallahan:
My bad for not reading it properly. Edited my post.

This seems to be a trend. SPB Shell and Launcher Pro both did the same thing.
[Android General] schimm:
Depends on your list. Load up a twitter feed and tell me you still believe this.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] Father Ted:
I absolutely concur!

I was enjoying this launcher and put up with the issues because we where led to believe it would be professionally managed and updated, but like SPB Shell which was another waste of money, it appears we pay for promises which are not fulfilled.
[Android General] deviant_cryptic:
This is so true. I am only hanging on it and hoping it's not being abandoned because I paid 12 bucks for it.
[Android General] Jonny176:
I'm in the same boat.... Loved this launcher... So much potential...
[Android General] sinjiyo:
hi

dock any size, anywhere...

widget closed

widget open (crazy effetc like always)

widget clock alarm meteo
[Android General] heyodee:
When?
[Android General] catman51:
That is the main question, how soon? Another month??
[Android General] Jonny176:
Edit.... Is it going to include the fix for the widget problem?
[Android General] tool_king:
Release Date announced

The release date for version 1.9.9 beta was just announced for March 31, 2013 on the TSF website.

http://www.tsfui.com/shell/release_history.html

I hope, they keep their promise this time.
[Android General] catman51:
Hope they've fixed the moving widgets, it doesn't say.
[Android General] yaatzek:
Finally we have official date, but ... another month of waiting and getting frustrated with widget bug.
[Android General] tool_king:
Just another 25 days. I guess they want to release a really stable version with marvellous new features this time. So let's give the developers these few more days.
[Android General] jenizaro:
If we are gonna wait for another 25 days there should be more than 1.8 update. More widgets, more new things!
[Android General] Jonny176:
Apparently they are releasing 1.9 hopefully one up from 1.8 lol
[Android General] sinjiyo:
2.0 will be stable version. :)
[Android General] yaatzek:
Odp: Android3D UI - TSF Shell Pro

I'm scared to think how long will we have to wait for that ;)
[Android General] Impact7:
Reminds me of waiting for the ICS update for my LG Optimus 2x. It took more than one year with several official statements during the year, that and when it will come. In the end, it was the 6th or 7th deadline they had...

But hey, let's hope again for an update :angel:
[Android General] rexboy:
Don't forget the extra. 9 so it's 1.9.9 lol.

Been following the thread, for me the launcher is very stable.

The white block widget issue was fixed for me a few releases ago and I've never had that issue since.

Someone mentioned widget scroll speed, mines ok but admit I don't use Twitter (who uses that anyway lol, jokes).

My widgets never move and remain where I put them and that's even after flashing my ROM regularly and reinstalling with Titanium or restoring with TWRP or CWM.

Only once my widgets launched a different app but I just reloaded TSF and is never happened since.

It's obviously an issue for some, just saying not for all.

I've tried a few others out of curiosity but they fail in comparison to TSF (for me that's judging in its current form).

Can't wait to see what the creative minds can come up with next release :)

Sent from my GS3
[Android General] sinjiyo:
Hey guys. Stop to be scared. Ota is write on website..1.9.9 *is the test version of 2.0 * *,2.0 is no longer the beta version.

Then team focus on widget.
[Android General] stayley:
I just tried next launcher and it is a rip off of tsf. It also drained my battery fast. I switched back to tsf and my battery life is excellent again.

I'm flashing and restoring constantly with tibu and no issues.

Can't wait for the update.

Sent from my SGSIII Rocking Task's AOKP
[Android General] desh_iit:
Could not found the date in their website, i.e. http://www.tsfui.com/shell/release_history.html ..it's showing under development for Version 1.8.0 Beta ... and will they skip 1.8.0 as you are talking about version 1.9.9 ?
[Android General] tool_king:
How about reading before posting bullsh#¥ here?

http://www.tsfui.com/shell/release_history.html
[Android General] schimm:
Beta for a year? The Duke Nukem Forever of app development.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] ammarsg:
we wait soooo much but still in tsf the next launcher get mor things from tsf is 31 in surly data or may become early mor 31