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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yunlin12:
volume

I hooked up the car dock, and went into the volume setting, and I found that the volume behavior between media, vs Ringer/Notification and Alarms are different:

Media volume:

Sound only comes from car's stereo, phone's volume rocker does not do anything. Only the car stereo's volume control works

Ringer/Notification or Alarm volumes:

Sound comes out from both phone and car stereo. The phone's volume rocker controls the volume on both the sound from the phone and the car stereo.

Since I'm routing the phone's audio to my car via an old tape deck adapter, the line out behavior is not very convenient, really would like the the media volume control to behave like the Ringer/Notification volume. The HW is already capable of supporting it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Lol. Which one should i pick? You made it harder. :D

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dmbfan13:
Well...mine is screwed! Was working fine, but then last night I replaced the housing and now I cant get it to work at all!!! so frustrated right now! Sometimes it seems to dock, but it doesnt charge or output audio. So, i dont know what to do now...

ideas?

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Did you say you had to dremmel the inside of the dock for yours to fit right? Could you post a pic of what you dremmeled?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Wasnt me. But my phone is starting to easily pop in and out already. Hopefully in a week or so it will just be second nature and not even a thought.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patruns:
@ErismaSS: The phone's volume control does nothing to the sound coming out of the dock. The sound is either on or off. That is the way "line out" works.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sigismond0:
Anybody else having trouble with the audio cutting out? It's been awfully hit-and-miss for me (LTE, stock 4.0.2, both Google apps), but it's hard to get it to consistently work. What will happen is that the audio will simply go silent at some point with no real pattern. It's definitely a software thing, because pausing, changing the volume, and unpausing will make it work again for a time. Switching music apps also remedies the problem, sometimes for hours, sometimes for seconds.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BlackHoleSlam:
The audio issues are fixed in 4.0.4 at least for me so try to get the update by one of the tricks for the stock people or just update to 4.0.4 if your rooted with a zip

by me, for me and I love you
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sigismond0:
Been having a hell of a time updating my phone, so I'm waiting for the OTA. Rollout started last week, so it should happen any time now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
You can download the full .4 image from googles website. No manual ota to get tangled up in.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sigismond0:
I have the official update zip, but CWM has been sucking pretty hard about flashing it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
I had some problems getting it on too. But finally achieved. Recently, When i got my sisters nexus, i manually flashed .4 onto both our phones. She never knew the difference. I had to start over but it wasn't a problem since i make regular backups.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jstew182:
Droid life posted a blog yesterday on how to force update your phone without rooting...it worked flawlessly and instantly for me. Though I can't test the issue with the dock yet cause mine doesn't come in til tomorrow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sigismond0:
For anyone stuck on 4.0.2 on Verizon, you can do the following trick to get it tp update OTA:

Settigs->Apps->All->Google Services Framework

Force Stop

Clear Data

Settings->About Phone->System Updates

Check Now

It usually doesn't work the first time, but after 3-4 times, it finally grabbed the update for me. Others report 6-10 times, but it works.

Will report back on whether this fixes the audio cutting out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ErismaSS:
Alright...I'll post a video sometime showing what I am talking about, maybe that will help me understand because I'm feeling straight up retarded right now because I must be missing something really basic...

Alright shot the video with a 5 year old camera(not big into taking pics or videos) so ah audio is bad and video is bad. The audio is coming out of the home theater system. this should help with the communication problem I am having...oh ya and I'm not referring to anything about the internal circuitry of the dock...I'm really starting to think we are just talking about two different things...

http://youtu.be/EYxygYRuavE

One last thing, the only reason I brought this entire thing up is because when I first got the dock, the car dock volume "buttons" were not interacting with my cellphone volume buttons correctly...I had to dremel the inside of the car dock volume buttons to get it to work right...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Antob125:
What car dock app is that? I like it!

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ErismaSS:
its the car dock app that is attached to this thread...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Antob125:
Can't see attachments on my Tapatalk app...

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Look at post 932..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patruns:
Hard to tell from that video as the audio is not good and you are talking when I am trying to listen as you raise and lower the volume. Nonetheless, I'll take your word for it that the volume does change. Seems very slightly, but there really should not be any change. Line outs are usually designed so that the device's volume controls do nothing so someone doesn't plug one in to their stereo when the volume is already all the way up and blow out their speakers. Some allow slight volume changes and that appears to be what you are experiencing. It's not a big deal as long as the change is slight.

After all this, I forget what your original concern was.... :p

edit: From Wikipedia - The signal out or line out remains at a constant level, regardless of the current setting of the volume control. Recording equipment can be connected to line out without having to monitor it through the device's speaker, and without the loudness of the recording changing if the volume control setting of the device is modified whilst recording.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ErismaSS:
alright I'll shoot the video again....its not a little change...its complete

I understand the concept that in reality, the dock line out is not changing the volume of the car stereo or home theater system in this case...but for all intent purposes it is.

i'm not sure if the camera will properly pick up the audio...

the original concern was the the phone volume rocker buttons controlling the audio level coming out of the stereo...

and no I am not talking about in call audio...that comes out of my phone's speaker

http://youtu.be/ZUmRFLCIfvw

it functions in my car the same way....not mounted yet because I'm waiting on some cords....

and ya I don't even know why I care because I'm probably going to be using my car stereo's volume control anyways...so this was rather pointless for me
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] irishtexmex:
For those who have the dock already, one of the things I'm considering doing (after having watched a few videos about it on youtube) is shaving off the "lip" that holds the Nexus in around the volume & power keys. That way the keys aren't being pressed/forced in every time you put it in and take it out of the dock.

My guess is that it would not, but do you think that would impact how good of a hold the dock has on the Nexus?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ErismaSS:
I've taken out quite a bit and it doesn't matter...I would almost be willing to bet you could completely remove the volume section and the phone would still stay in there...I wouldn't do that, but ya this dock really holds the phone...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] secund3r:
Now that we are finally getting the car dock, we just need someone to port over the sense 4 car home app. I can't post links, but here's the youtube video of the dock app.

youtube.com/watch?v=qID8leHeVYU
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patruns:
Yeah, I see what you mean. Shouldn't work that way. Are you using the stock ROM? I haven't tested mine to see if it does the same thing but if it does I think they got it wrong. One thing I noticed is when I plug the Samsung headphones/mic directly to the phone a little headphone icon appears in the upper left corner and my music just starts playing. If I plug standard headphones in nothing happens and no icon appears, but when I start the music player they work. I am thinking maybe there is only headset circuitry in the phone and no line out. When I plug in to my old Nokia smartphone a window pops up asking me to choose headphones, headset or line out. That should be the way this works.

edit: Seems there was a thread discussing this very thing.... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1356651
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wade-0:
I did the exact same test, and it functions only as a line out for me, with the stock music player. Have you tried using the stock player? I'm wondering if it's Power Amp. What ROM are you running?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cheshirecat79:
I'm going through some issues with the car dock.

I was originally on Codename Android 1.6. There was a lot of digital noise coming through the line out from the dock. It was definitely software related as it relates to the Nexus sending spdif out though the pogo pins.

I tried a different cable. No change. I tried a the headphone jack itself (fine).

Rebooting the phone makes the digital noise go away. It's almost the same kind of stuff that comes through your speakers if you put your phone too close to the wiring, but different. I can take a video if you need, but I'm sure I'm not the only person going through this.

Rebooting the phone makes the noise go away for a bit- the line out is perfectly clear. Then, once the 3g or wifi connection kicks in, the digital noise will come back. When you work with the phone- go through menus, turn radios on/off, etc, the noise will change. Sometimes it'll almost go away completely, it's just insanely annoying.

Channels would also appear/disappear. Right, then left would work, etc. Completely random.

So, anyway, I reflashed to the 4.0.4 CM9 nightly (Alpha I believe) build. The noise is better- lower, and it goes away sometimes, but it's still there.

Next up I think I'll be trying the OEM Verizon 4.0.4 release.

The only thing I can think is that this is the bug that was keeping the dock from being released. There must have been issues encoding/decoding the spdif ditigal output to analog audio out from the phone through the pogo pins to the dock.

Also, on the line out questions, both the Codename Android and CM9 ROMs were running audio out as line out from the phone. Volume out from the dock would not change- it was at a constant and respectable (not overdriven to my ears) level. The volume rocker would change the volume of notifications/ringer only.

I'll be working on this throughout the day, I've been waiting for this stupid dock for six months. I *need* it to work before I completely give up on this phone.

Hopefully this helps someone, sorry for the post length.

edit: wanted to add- shaved down the volume rocker area. Good connection and ac charge through pins using the samsung adapter that came with the car dock. I'm using the OEM extended battery but it's nothing to do with the phone fit- even tested without the door to see if it made a difference. no dice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ErismaSS:
AOKP build 37... and as far as I can tell the stock player on my phone is gone...I can't remember if I removed it or what...I went through titanium to find it...and do not see anything that resembles a stock player...annnd I don't remember the stock player on this phone...not sure if I even ever used it...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cheshirecat79:
From what I can tell, line out doesn't have anything to do with the app itself that is running at the time, but the sound processing of the phone ROM itself.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ErismaSS:
meh this topic is about to go over my head if it hasn't already...and i don't care to learn anymore about it at this time, I've already burned way too much time on this thread...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wade-0:
I'm running Codename 1.6 and don't have any problem with the audio output. What kernel are you running? I'm using Imoseyon's latest LeanKernel with SoundControl on medium boost and High Quality enabled using LeanTweaks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] irishtexmex:
Wow. That app looks absolutely fantastic. It's a shame HTC is still obsessed with their endless amounts of gradients and ugly bezels, but it's still lightyears ahead of any car dock app currently available on Android. And I can't help but think their mechanism for holding the phone in is going to be tons easier than the GN's. Oh well.

Hopefully an enterprising dev team (CM9 or AOKP, I'm looking at you) can build something into their ROM with similar functionality. I love the ability to control music directly from the navigation/map screen. The only other way I think you can do that is by using an app to place a widget anywhere or by the notification shade controls.

Also, here's a link since I'm allowed to post them. :)

[YOUTUBE]qID8leHeVYU[/YOUTUBE]
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsy87:
So far I trimmed the lip around the power button area so that it is not pressed when removing the phone but have not done the volume buttons.

I am pretty confident that you could remove the lip around 90% of the dock and the dock would still have a decent grip around the phone. They really should have went with a lever or some other spring mechanism to restrain the phone rather than have a lip that locks it in all the way around.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] secund3r:
The people over at the HTC Sensation forum have extracted the car app apks to bring them over to sense 3, so an enterprising developer could grab those files and see if they can be made to work outside of sense. I know a lot of the other sense apks cannot run independently of the rom, as their is a lot of dependencies.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chuckdz3:
Ok just got the dock in today. My initial reactions is that the build quality is pretty good. Still seems plasticy for the 60 price point but I'm not disappointed. The fit is really tight, just like everyone has pointed out. It is really hard to get in and out of the dock. If you have a skin on ur phone forget about it. Its going to come off whether u like it or not. (I knew that was going to be the case but wanted to try)

Now here's my problem. Verizon CDMA version fits fine but when I get it in I get nothing... no charge no audio no reaction except the buttons being mashed in and the phone reacting the best way it can to all the buttons being pressed. (Some weird lock screen issues and the share option comes up, strange, it could be my widget locker app it has known to be finicky). I am running AOKP M5. And I installed the docking apks correctly. So I'm unsure why I am not getting any response when I dock the phone. I haven't trier yet on different ROMs or stock 4.0.4 yet because I'd like to get it to work on my daily driver.

Anyone having luck with AOKP? Any suggestions overall? I'd really like to get this to work properly.

Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] push2flush:
I know this was a couple of days ago but my DESKTOP DOCK (just to clear up any confusion) charges in AC mode ever since I got my 4.0.4 update
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patruns:
Did you plug a charger into the dock? Nothing happens with the stock ROM until you do.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chuckdz3:
Yes, haha sorry. I know its common sense, but you're right some people don't understand that concept. But yes I tried it with the stock Samsung charger it came with and one I was using before.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sinergie:
Strange that Samsung did not implement the cut outs for the volume rocker and power button, since in these early pictures they were there:

http://www.theunwired.net/?item=photoview-samsung-galaxy-nexus-car-dock-and-hdmi-dock
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Accord281:
Watch my video. Exact same thing happened to me. I am on AOKP m5. The ROM works fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XST4dFDi0WY&feature=youtu.be
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chuckdz3:
I see what you are saying. I tried to barely put it in and I got contact. The phone literally was half way in, the volume rocker was still exposed. That was the only way I could get contact. So when you used your dremmel you were able to put the phone entirely in and still have contact? Do you mind sharing a picture of the inside of your dock so I could get an idea where to trim down.

I still don't know if I want to mod this yet. I don't understand why there would be an inconstancy in the way it fits based on two of the exact same models, being one CDMA fits fine into the dock with one minor mod to the volume buttons(which for me are fine, I don't have to cut it out to make it longer like others have had to do, mine functions fine when my phone is fully inserted) and others have to shave down the back to allow it to fit better and keep the pins contacted?

I know it clearly states this is for the GSM version only and I am stretching it to fit for my CDMA version, but I just don't see how two identical products could fit differently.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fatttire:
I just got one in the mail today from the Google Play store and mine has the cut-outs. Fits like a glove. GSM model; stock battery
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Accord281:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6956979/IMG_20120604_072950.jpg

I basically just did the whole thing. But went slightly deeper in the lower left corner.

WHAT??? Can you post a pic? I will be displeased if this is a second run or something, where they are now doing it. What is the manufacture date on the box? Mine is 5/8/2012.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sigismond0:
Has internal cutouts where the buttons are, or cutouts on the face of the dock itself so that you could, for example, see the buttons while it's still in the dock? All of them have the former, but pictures in the manual show the latter. I don't think that means anything, and don't see the big deal with it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Could you post a pic please? And yes could be a big deal if it keeps your buttons from being damaged.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nxt:
edit. thought u guys talking about desktop dock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fatttire:
I'll take a picture when I can. I have a feeling I might be getting everyone's hopes without really understanding what's going on. It has cutouts with separate rubber plastic in the middle, so the rubbery plastic slides out when the dock goes in. I think it looks like the pictures in the manual. You can't see the buttons on the dock unless you pry off the rubbery plastic piece that slides back/forth. It's not like what it would look like if you took a dremel to it, its not an indentation, its an actual moving part that covers the buttons
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ErismaSS:
I have a Verizon phone running AOKP 37, working. Sometimes I do have to insert the phone multiple times before it works properly though...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Got it. You're right. I did think it was different. No need for the photo. Thanks for the offer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wade-0:
Maybe because they aren't identical. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nyijedi:
I just got my dock today. I have an unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus that I imported to the U.S. at launch. The dock is extremely tight for me, even w/ the slightly thinner GSM phone. It's so tight that I really felt the power button and/or volume rocker would be damaged through use. I took an exacto knife and just shaved off the lip by the buttons, and they no longer rub when putting the phone in. It still takes a decent push from the back to remove the phone from the dock, but at least I know the buttons won't break off.

Overall, the dock is really nice, but the fit is a problem, IMHO.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fatttire:
heres the pics!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chuckdz3:
Did you have to mod anything to make yours work? My problem is exactly what Accord281 was having. My phone will not make the connection with the 3 pins w/o making the dock deeper to support the phone. Right now I only have connection if my phone's bottom (where the pins are located) is placed in and the top (where the volume rocker is) is sticking out.

lol I knew someone was going to misunderstand me. I meant two identical CDMA versions. Not CDMA vs GSM. Some people are having virtually no problems getting their CDMA to work but others are having difficulty (like myself) and need the use of modifications. I've read nearly this whole thread and it sounds like CDMAers are having to expand the volume button (not a problem for me) OR shave the back to make it deeper (which is what my problem is). That is what I was referring to about how two identical products fit differently :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] morbidz:
@fatttire I don't see cutouts like you mentioned. These are just buttons integrated into the dock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wade-0:
I could get mine to work, occasionally, before shaving the ports. However it would have to be inserted at a weird angle to work. With the volume slot shaved, it works every time now.

I won't be surprised to see a CDMA version of the dock released after the 4.0.4 update is rolled out to everyone, at which point I will probably just sell this one to a GSM owner at a significant discount from what I paid for it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chuckdz3:
Yeah I was thinking the same thing since the 4.0.4 update is 'official' for the CDMA version now. But I think it's going to come down to Verizon, which we all know frowns upon the Galaxy Nexus. They are more concerned with their Droid brand, HTC products and the upcoming SGIII. I have a feeling they are closing the door on the GN, but who am I to say whether they will or not.

But back to the dock. So all you did was shave the volume down a bit and it made the connection with the 3 pins when it is fully inserted into the dock?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
mine is breaking in nicely. it is starting to pop right in and out. i insert my nexus pin/power side first then pop the volume side right in. popping out is stilll kind of a chore because of the way i do it, but it takes less effort now and i haven't fumbled at all the last few days. just need phone to work on the line out now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JScottTuck:
Not Charging

I have noticed a few others posting with this issue, but no one seems to have a fix just yet. I received my car dock today, and I have the LTE Galaxy Nexus with the extended battery. I have widened the volume rocker area on the inside of the dock a bit, but I can't seem to get the phone to charge unless I do 1 of 2 things. 1. Put the pin side in first, and firmly press down. After that, I begin to push the top side back, and it will being charging just before the volume buttons are covered. The other option is to insert the phone into the dock, then push it out on the volume button side a bit. After I do that, it will show that it is charging, and I can push it the rest of the way into the dock. Any ideas?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TestingOneTwoThree:
Finally gave in and ordered the dock for my cdma GN after hearing all the success stories with getting everything working. I ended up ordering it through the Google play store and it states that it should get here in two business days (which is tomorrow). Anyone know how I can track this order through UPS or USPS? Did anyone else run into not getting a tracking number? Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sigismond0:
There should be a link in your confirmation email along with the tracking number. (Was UPS, I believe.) Did arrive in two days though, so you can probably count on it getting there tomorrow.