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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fatila:
Heard some concerns about the fit of skins such as the 'barely there'. Want to order one soon and was wondering what opinions are now that some time has passed.

I want a skin to protect the back from scratching or chipping from small falls, not enough to protect it from a hammer! Don't want to make the phone too bulky and will be using an Xoskin on the front.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Balthazar B:
Lots of TPU skins out there already. Quick and dirty way to see what's available is to do a search on Amazon. Diztronic seems to be an early favorite.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fatila:
Search for diztronic on amazon UK comes up with:

Minisuit

Is that what you meant?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] catpunt:
i got the s-curve one from ebay for 3 bucks (same as the minisuit one, sometimes goes under the name of qubits) and it's pretty slim. i also ordered the nilikin one to see if it's any thinner or snugger, because i didn't think the s-curve one was snug enough. i don't like the diztronic one because it has some extra cutouts (ie for the power button) which means a little less protection
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hadisious:
http://tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=42_51

These are the ones he is referring to. I am thinking about picking one up myself. Let me know if you end up doing it; i'm curious to see how they are.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] apratomo:
I just get this

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0062V9UWU/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details

Fits snugly on GN, not slippery since rubberized and not too bulky
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boynamedstacy:
Looks decent but I prefer when the top and bottom of the phone are protected as well. I mean if you are gonna bulk it up why not cover the whole thing? Doesn't that thing slip off fairly easily?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Hi,

i want to start a discussion with those of you who have such unstable Desires.

I am one of the sad guys having one of them. It seems that there are a few Desires which do not run like all the others.

A typical thing with this Desires are complete freezes of Android. Very often they happen when the screen is off, the phone is idle and recieve a SMS or a Phone call. The phone freezes imediately and you are never informed of the SMS or Call. It is just lost. You just detect that you can not power on your phone and must remove the battery to get it back to life.

I have this starnge freezes with every ROM. Most people do not believe you because they do not have the problems.

I have tried several things till now.

- A new SD Card

- Several ROMS

- Allways full wipe

- Allways format SD card with gparted

- Allways start from scratch without backup of Apps

- Different Kernels

- Delvik internal

- uvm...

But all of this things did not help! It seemed that only i have the Problem and i was thinking its a hardware defekt.

I was searching for a new Android device as i again installed a new ROM and read from someone with the same problems. I also read about the UV capabilities of Deamon Controller.

So i give this a try.

I now have installed AIO 3.0.4 on CM7r2 with x2sd with latest radio and one Ext4 partition. First of all i went to deamon controller and put up the voltages a little bit. And since i have done this my freezes nearly are gone.

I now played around with the settings and it turns out that you must find the right values. To much voltage is not good and to less is also not good.

It seems that there are some CPU's in some desires which are not very stable and do not like the OC / UV.

It would be very nice to know about your expirience with unstable Desires and what you have done to fix this. Perhaps we can also find good values for UV.

Or we can find a mix of things to make this Desires also stable.

Regards

Kai
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
It's a known issue that too much undervolting or overclocking leads to CPU freezes, or kernel panic and then restarts. That different boards have different thresholds of these is also known. That's why we usually built locks for CPU freq and voltages while booting up, and then the user is responsible for experimenting with different freq/volt values and finally arriving at an optimium range for his CPU.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Hi,

thanks for the reply.

Do you know what are the default settings in a standard rom? Is there a CPU freq and voltage change or is the standard 998 and 1275 mv?

My problem is that standard settings, tables from custom roms did not work for my desire. It is really very unstable wiith this settings and i am hoping to find other Desire users having the same problem to find a good solution.

Thanks again for the help.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Droidzone:
Yes, 998 Mhz is the standard freq at which freq is usually locked/
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Thanks again, so using 998 with 1275 schould be the normal mode every desire is supposed to work with?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
I am happy :-)

Thanks to all of you who helped me with my problems.

Finnally after one year of Problems it seems i have a solution for my unstable desire.

After 2 Days of intensive testing i want to share my experience with you.

Seems my Problem was solved by setting own UV(undervolt) values.

It works great for me, other CPU can need other values, you must play around with it. But you can also try to use my settings.

I can say the phone is now rock solid. I could not believe that it was such a little thing. I even managed now to overclock it to 1190 without freezes.

As i said i had issues with every image and tried alot with new SD cards, other kernels, setting CPU speed ... Nothing helped. I had total OS freezes 3 - 15 times a day.

But now with the new UV settings in Deamon controller i get it really stable!

I want to explain you exactly my set up.

But i strong believe it was the UV / OC settings which do the stabilisation!

My set up:

Alpharev cm7r2 (S-Off)

4 ext Recovery

16 GB Samsung Sd Card Class 10

Fat32 + 1024MB Ext4 for x2sd

Runnymed AIO 3.0.4

X2SD Script

Deamon Controller with andrev_oc and custom UV settings entered in Deamon Controller.

Things i have applied:

RunnyMede_NO_Xloud.zip (speakers are too load for me in original)

No_TPWakeUp-Runny.zip (I do not want to wake up the phone with TP)

50+ APP's :-)

Batterylife is not too bad i think. This is a screen shot of a medium to haevy using day.

Now here are the screens on UV and OC (and battery life):
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kartnite:
I hope this works with my setup. I have not applied wht you've listed. And I am on stock hboot, 4 GB class 4, Clockwork Mod recovery...

Will try it later in the day. Thanks!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Hi kartnite,

would be nice if you could share your experience with us if you have tried it.

Some more infos i have collected in onother thread, perhaps helpfull:

I have also used the SD Tools App.

Think i was wrong it's a samsung class 6 card:

6.1 MB write speed

27 MB read speed

My own thoughts to the comments about OC / UV:

Since the Display uses the most amount of the Battery it does not really matter to use some mv more or less. This is also prooven because the original images uses 1275 mv and 998 MHZ fix!

Some CPU's seems not to like undervolting. Some seems to have no problems with this.

For my CPU it is true that standard UV values make the phone freeze very often. Set the voltages up a little bit makes the CPU happy and my phone is stable :-)

Also i think it is no danger, as long as you do not go over 1275 you are using the normal voltages.

About battery life i think it is important that your phone enters deep sleep mode when you turn the display off. You can check it with CPU Spy App.

My battereylife is good, at least more than 24 hours with normal usage.

My deamon settings are:

sleep min: 384

sleep max: 998

wake min: 284

wake max:1190 (here with 1350 mv)

I have set the 1190 since my phone is stable. The 1190 makes the ROM even more responsive if used.

Regards

Kai
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kartnite:
Well, been a few hours now since I applied those settings.

Total of three force closes- Facebook, Mail and Sense.

Comparatively lesser than what it was earlier, but force closes nonetheless.

Yes, I did find that "improvement" in responsiveness but the lag returned.

I'm looking at other options, too.

Sorry for the delayed response. Wanted to wait a few hours before sharing what I observed.

Thanks for those additional points, mate. Will try them later in the day...

-

Swyped from XDA-Premium
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xesor:
Thanks Kai,

finally i found someone with the same problem,

firstly i even try to use another kernel just like gingerbread 0.9 or 0.8.

I forgot the low-voltage influence(just like OC in Computer),

thank for your sharing~
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Hi all,

sorry, but i have bad news.

The UV settings seemed to help a couple of days, but than my desire begin to freeze again.

It all started with a forced close of Whatsapp. After that many force closes returned and my desire also beginn to stuck.

I tried to repair the Filesystem with gparted. But it made it even worse.

I tried the whole Weekend, and even with only 998 and no UV the Problems kept.

Seems that somehow the image gets corrupted, even Dalvik wipe, or reflashing did not help.

Now i again started from scratch.

I installed AIO 3.0.5 with complete wipe and new partitioned SD card.

This time i set up the ROM without inserted SIM Card. I have done this because things alsways stuck when SMS, Phone things happen.

I think the SIM can have influence on the ROM's stability. I do not know why.

But without SIM Card insert i could set up everything without Problems.

Installed Andrev_OC and let all settings and UV as they are. Setup Apps, Contacts, Facebook. Let the phone sync and set up. Started it a few times.

I runs stable. I made a backup.

After the Backup got this HTC Launcher error, restrted and it was ok.

Then i inserted the SIM card. Till now it works. But lets look if it gets unstable again.

If this try will not succeed i will buy a new HTC and will sell my Desire. This freezes sucks.

But as said today it worked perfect. With many SMS and phone calls withoud freeze. It is really a strange thing!!!

Hope i can tell good news in a couple of days!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xesor:
Hope you succeed in it. :(

I just replied you yesterday & set the UV setting before I slept last night.

And I have fully charge with battery in 100%.

But it still happened again, drained of battery to 30% and froze.

Also I have late for work without alarm clock.

I dont want to give up, but it is hard.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] happy20b:
Changing UV din help me too.. So back on Samsung SD card (class 2) and it works fine.. I would suggest you to try with Samsung SD cards, cause they have better read speed.. I never has even i single with Samsung SD card but with Sandisk class 4 i had many freezes with same ROM and setup...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Thanks for the suggestiones,

i think that UV did not really help.

Yes i have a 16 GB Samsung card. I tried everything to get rid of this bug.

Now i am very supriesed, since the last setup yesterday the phone worked without freeze. But lets see sometimes things get worse after a few days.

I really do not understand what causes the trouble.

Setting it up without SIM Card seemed to help?

I am really confused. I always set up ROMS very correct. Means full wipe. Let boot , give time to stabilize... But mostly the ROMS crash before having set up all apps.

Without sim there was no problem. Now lets look how it goes on with this set up.

Before i have inserted the SIM again i pressed on the metal from the sim slot to make the sim fit better? Perhaps this helped? Anyone knows about problems with this causing ROMS to freeze?

If i think back my Problems started with a new SIM Card from O2 Germany.

I will report if it will start to freeze again or if it work.

Regards

Kai
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] happy20b:
I guess for me it was more over SD card issue.. My be your case is different .. best of luck on new setup.. I will be buying new SD card :D soon
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Hi,

wish you the best luck! I have a Samsung SD card.

Works since 2 days stable. One FC when installing Facebook and i had to reboot.

But no OS freezes or missed SMS / calls.

Let's see if it stays like that. Sorry tht the UV not helped, but perhaps try fitting the SIM card better (with tesa on the back or pressing on the mettal) and try to install ROM first without SIM.

Another tip for Battery drain. I recognized yesterday that i have battery drain and i could see that my phone only gets partitialy into Deep Sleep. I serached what it is and in the end i recognized that it was the Facebook app. Installed the update to the newest version and now my phone went into Deep Sleep.

If you are not sure use CPU Spy to check.

If your display is off your phone should be nearly 100% in Deep Sleep. In Deep Sleep my phone uses nearly no battery! Thats really great and gives a long standby time! So check that newest Facebook is installed!

Regards

Kai
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ronok:
I don't want to be the spoilsport, but I've got the same problem only with my Samsung 16gb class 6 card, not with my "older" Sandisk class 2. But this card is way too slow for sense 3.5. :confused:

I've tried the higher UV values, which solved the freezing problem for a few days. But only temporary.

I'm considering switching to an ASOP ROM, just to keep my phone running stable. It often crashes on incoming calls or during nighttime. I missed a lot of calls and alarms.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] happy20b:
Thanks for the tips.. I do get great battery while display is off, but when display is on it consumes lots of battery.. For this, some one asked to set the auto brightness to lowest. in rcmix display settings..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iain2510:
After months of suffering the random freezes and blank screens I've came to the conclusion that my problem stems from the sd card (not the actual card as I've tried a few) but the component which holds the card.

I've returned the phone to cpw but got it back untouched!

The way I test if it's the sd card if to open my camera app and if the small box in the bottom right of the screen is not showing the last picture taken (it shows black instead) then I turn phone off, push down on the sd card, reboot, and everything works - for a while!

Edit-I'm using the oxygen ROM so the camera app is the aosp one. If you have a file explorer then trying to open a file on your sd card will also let you know if there is a problem
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Hi iain2510,

which camera app do you use? I do not have this small box.

Regards

Kai
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xesor:
Agree with you, i almost want to give up.

I've raise the voltage 1000mV@128000 (origin is 950),

that is only few stable...

And I found something strength that i can't fix the Deamon control setting value,

it will restore to default value(950mV@128000 and so on) ...

My card is Adata class10 16GB, is this problem?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ronok:
Something I noticed. My phone froze today and yesterday at almost the same time. The time is not important I think, but it happens when I arrive home. A wild guess, but could it be triggered by my wifi connection? I know it gets triggered by other radio related events (calls, SMS,...)

EDIT: nevermind, I just noticed I missed another call before my phone was frozen.

Still, I also believe the sd card (or reader) is the main cause because I've used different cards.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xesor:
Hi All,

I'm afraid the frozen problem is caused by SD card, especially on the speed.

I just sent my old sd card Adata 16G class10 back yesterday and ask for repair & check,

Maybe something wrong with it I just guess so.

but I waste my money bought new one is Trendscend 16G class10, I just want to try.

After almost one day trying, I never got any frozen problem or deep sleep once.

Even I never adjust Deamon controll, just keep the default value.

it's really strange, there should be some problem with my old card i gusse.

Also i paste my card speed that tested by SD tool, i'm not sure how the result is good or not, just for you guys refer.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Hi,

seems my problem is solved. 4 Days without freeze, black screen, lost sms or calls.

It seems it was a contact in the mountig for SD or SIM card. I pressed on the mountings with fingers and with the platik from a lighter. Espacially the mounting for the SD Card is robust and i had to press with the plastik sied from the lighter to get it fit better. Now that the cards just fit without having free space the phone seems to work.

I just can not believe that the solution should be so simple and that there are such contact problems in this mountings.

Lets see if the stable state will continue.

If you do not want to deform the mountings you can try to make your cards thicker with tape.

Hope this helps some of you.

Best regards and happy christmas

Kai
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ronok:
Interesting, and also very plausible. Gonna try this
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zydol:
Hi guys,

I'll try too. Let's see.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iain2510:
I'm using a piece of paper between the sd card and the phone casing, works for anything between a couple if minutes and a week! My guess is that lots of people are suffering from this but blaming their roms or settings.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ronok:
I used some tape to make the sd card thicker. It fits very tight now. But I just got 2 freezes... Whilst opening the browser and opening the facebook app.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xesor:
Hi all,

today is 6th day I've used the new Transcend sd card.

No frozen, shut down or deeply sleep issues again.

Try another sd card if you ever get the freeze problem.:)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iain2510:
Please report back in a few weeks as I've managed up to 3 weeks without any problems and then they started again!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ronok:
One thing I noticed which "postpones" the freezes a bit is installing a ROM after a full wipe.

I Installed Runnymede 4.0 SE on Thursday after doing a full wipe. Yesterday (Sunday) I updated (only wiped caches) to version 4.0.1. Today (Monday) I got the first freeze in 4 days...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuno_oliveira:
Hi

I have Desire with InsertCoin 1.1.4 CM7r2 and I too have random freezes. Most of them are similar to kai-t description, when the screen is off, the phone is idle and receive a SMS or a Phone call. It's very annoying as you have no way to know who call you or who send you an sms.

Another thing I noticed on my Desire is that when I go to the countryside, and there's no 3G reception and the data connection is made trough GPRS the phone freezes almost always.

regards
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arunkk81:
I am closely following this thread for solutions to this issue.

I tried all the solutions mentioned here except changing SD card and everything failed. I hope its not a SD card contact problem as i get it only on Sense based ROMs.

I think its linked with the Sense kernel and I am hoping for a ICS Sense kernel to solve this issue for me. I kind of gave up on all Sense ROMS and using only AOSP ones now.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chiyo-chan:
Hi,

I was also having the same kind of problem: most of the time the screen wouldn't go on.

It was happening to me around one time a day. As stated previously by Ronok, reinstalling a new ROM from scratch would make the time between freeze a little bit longer (let's say 2 days).

I'd tried to change cpu voltage, freq, but nothing.

Then I saw a message from tamirda (revolution rom dev), replying to someone asking him why was he using radio 5.17.05.08 instead of latest 5.17.05.23, basically saying that he was having stability prob with the latest radio while everything was fine with 5.17.05.08.

So I gave it try and... My desire hasn't froze for like 10 days :)

No freeze, no desire that wont wake from sleep, no 'oh ****, my alarm didn't ring because my phone was frozen' (thank to apple and their famous alarm bugs, this excuse did work lol)

I'm not saying that this will be a magical solution for everyone, but I think it can help a few people!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ronok:
I think I've had problems with that radio before because I can remember I did the opposite to solve this freezing problem.

I noticed something else (originally posted in RunnyMede AIO thread):

I've had freezes with all sense 3.0 and 3.5 ROMs,

except RunnyMede AIO 4.0 SE

, and only that specific version. :confused:

And elot01 posted this:

Anyway, I'm using RunnyMede 4.0 now, no freezes yet (touch wood), so I'm not changing anything :rolleyes:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Hi all!

Very nice that we can discuss this problem here! Thanks for all the good ideas.

For me it seems i solved the problem.

It is unbelivable but it seemd to be a contact issue! Either with the SIM Card Slot or the SD Card slot. I can not say which one because i fixed it both the same time.

As written before i have pressed the slots with my finger and even with a key from my key ring until my cards exactly fit in.

After that i had no complete freezes again.

I had one complete crash with reboot after the system was very slow. But no freezes anymore! I am very happy with this.

I am using latest radio and AIO ROM from Seb. But as said before i had the problems with every Rom until i have done this.

I think the problem will not come back since it works like this for over 2 Weeks!

Thanks again and i hope this informations will halp some of you!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ronok:
I've tried that before, with some tape, but it didn't work. Can you post some pictures how and where to bend the card slot(s)?

For me it seems that RunnyMede AIO 4.0 SE is behaving very well, still no freezes. Which makes it more confusing. Only that version is stable. Or at least more stable then others. :confused:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kai-t:
Hi,

sure i will post some images. But now i am one week on holiday.

When i am back i will report if everything works still good and post some images.

Regards

Kai
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leen12:
that happens to me sometimes and on a small few roms tho its never been a problem i have tried to fix i just flash another rom usualy but after some time i think that may have affected my phone performance as it is starting to appear more and on more roms
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ronok:
Ok thanks!

I'm also thinking in the direction of a hardware problem. Mostly because we've tried almost every software-related solution.

Also because I'm having a lot of "E:can't mount sdcard" errors when I reboot to recovery lately. One SD card is completely corrupted. I've used different recovery tools to get data back, but windows can't get anything out of it. The other sd card (the one with the freezing problem) had the same issue today, but it worked when I removed the card and put it back again...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elot01:
Hello,

I did not have problems with freezing and reboots, untill i started using Sense 3.x roms.

Tried al kind of things, new sdcard, other oc and uv values etc. :confused:

When i went back to an old rom with stock hboot, the freezes and reboots stopped.

So i started experimenting with hboot versions.

I now use hboot Data++ from Alpharev and have not had any freezes or reboots since then.

With this hboot i still can use the ap2sdx from Amerulz on the AIO rom from Sebastiaan15:)

So if nothing seems to help, try the Data++ hboot instead of the CM7/R2.

Maybe it works for you too. :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kartnite:
Dude, you still running Seb's ROM yeah? Which version?

- Swyped from xda Premium on iDesire.