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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Here's where I disagree: who said that ASUS didn't do "basic testing" before sending units out? You do understand that no high-volume manufacturer tests _every_ unit, right? They test samples from lots. The size of the sample they test relates directly to the importance of defects--I guarantee that each and every CT scanner is extensively tested, at the cost of thousands of dollars each, before it's sent out vs. a consumer product like a tablet where maybe 1 out of 1000 is tested. The reason is because the consequences of a defect are so much graver for the CT scanner (which of course isn't actually a high-volume product, but let's hold onto the analogy) than for a tablet.

The very fact that almost every consumer product made today has one or more initial issue (the iPhone 4S with Antennagate, the Galaxy Nexus with its volume bug, etc., etc.) means that it's likely impossible to catch every single problem. The cost to do so would simply be prohibitive vs. the lost productivity/enjoyment for the user and the cost of fixing the problem after the fact. Unless you want these things to cost MUCH more, then this is the way it has to be.

So, there were likely a few lots of units that had a manufacturing defect around the Wifi antennas, and those slipped through QC. The good thing about lots is that they make isolating bad units so much easier--just recall and test the affected lots and you're good to go. Seems like this is what happened here. Then, ASUS probably increased their sampling of other lots, hence the delay and reduce shipments, and now seem confident that the manufacturing problem has been resolved.

As far as the small number of units that were affected (300? really? that's rounding error vs. how many should ultimately be made), ASUS is replacing them. Case closed, really. And again, the worst thing that's happened is that we incredibly impatient early adopters have to wait a few weeks for our new toys (or tools, either way doesn't really matter).

Other manufacturers (cough Apple cough) sometimes let these things go and then don't even fix them (offering ridiculous "solutions" like a freaking rubber band, LITERALLY). ASUS took the high road here, and should be commended for it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] denverbuckeye:
I hope that includes the early gamestop model I have. definitely has WiFi issues.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Hence, probably why Gamestop is delaying their release. ASUS is probably shipping them new stock to replace their existing stock, which will be (or has already been) shipped back.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] andyxover:
in the Chinese article it says you can check whether your unit is affected on their website, but i haven't found that link yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
You've posted the above twice. There's a big difference between Wi-Fi not working or working poorly on a device that depends on it and the above two issues.

Apple's issue with the iP4 (not iP4s) wasn't technical. It was their arrogance. They knew that their design choice could have a performance impact under difficult to produce conditions but form trumped function. It shipped performing as they intended it. They were surprised only by the fact people were making such a big deal of it.

The GN's issue only occurred when using the phone on 2G (900Hz) in close proximity to another phone also using 2G. The percentage of people affected (almost all in rural European areas) was small. Yes, it should have been caught but it was a freak circumstance that probably wasn't in their testing scenarios. But it was a low impact problem that was corrected in days with s/w. No one in the U.S. would have even noticed because no carrier here uses the 900Hz frequency.

Another example you didn't mention. The HTC Sensation had a Wi-Fi-Gate issue. When held horizontally with your hands in a certain position Wi-Fi signal would deteriorate. The design choice of an aluminum back cover (sound familiar) made the antenna sensitive. HTC's answer? Don't hold it that way (and to stop using aluminum back covers going forward). Regardless, the phone worked fine, users just had the annoyance of having to be careful how they held it. Again, it wasn't a surprise found after release but an intentional design choice.

The difference between Asus' Wi-Fi issue and the above comes down to severity and number of people that would have been affected. They were obviously surprised by it and being a high impact problem it should have been caught way earlier in QC. The units solid in Taiwan were materially defective and they wouldn’t have sold them had they known. Hence the recall. **** happens. But you can't lump it all in to the same category.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
Really? How

Don't fatter yourself that everyone know who you are and what you were "Right about", without even saying it. If yo agree with the post that you quoted, say so, but I thought you comment was pretty fragmented and a bit in the random side. No harm, no foul, just sayin!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] UmbraeSoulsbane:
Wynand32 is entirely correct. There is actually a science to this. Google Six Sigma. Its about trying to minimize defects in manufacturing, but there is no way to eliminate it.

In my experience, the quality of Asus manufacturing far exceeds anyone else. Problems in new devices which have brand new manufacturing processes is unavoidable. Its really how a company handles it, but I think its too soon to judge how Asus will. Wait until we have a shipment or not, and what problems are found in the device and how Asus handles them.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
Seriously? Search on RMA in the TF1 forum. Friends who bought Transformers had to go through multiple exchanges when they first purchased them and a couple were sent in for repair after the fact. Asus is known for three things - 1) frequent s/w updates, 2) decent customer service, and 3) value. Six Sigma quality, not so much.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
So, how many angels do YOU think can dance on the head of a pin? :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] UmbraeSoulsbane:
As I said "my experience", I have tons of Asus devices and have never had a problem. I have had a few RMA, but the process was painless and better than others. Also, I would not base an opinion on just one forum.

Six Sigma does not apply to new devices. New devices run through un-optimized manufacturing, and Six Sigma comes in after each run to improve the number of defects. EVERY manufacturer has issue with first run devices, and that includes Apple, Samsung and all the big ones.

The real test is how many of those problems still exist for the TF1 today. Not to mention, I believe, that was their first tablet device, so hopefully those lessons can be applied to the TF2 increasing quality. This is the risk all early adopters have to content with; a larger number of defects.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
You made an awful lot of speculation in your post. 1) You assumed it was a manufacturing defect and not a design issue. Have anything to back that up? 2) You assumed the 300 number is the total number of units affected. All we know is they have recalled that number at this point. We don't know if that is every unit affected. We do know that the Anandtech reviewer had decent Wifi only on his

3rd

unit. For all we know, that 3rd unit could be an updated design.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Everyone here is making a huge number of assumptions.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] markimar:
what I don't understand is it never should have gone into production without thourough testing! Just keep you mouth shut about release dates till you get your act together. Sound pretty simple to me! It just costs more to pull units to fix them than catching it before putting it out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CandyNJ66:
When I called Asus in the afternoon, the guy had no knowledge until I directed him here. He took my serial number etc. I will wait after the holidays or when Asus has an official comment on this.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] surroundedbytrees:
Nice to see that ASUS addressed the issues. NOT

I just read that the PadPhone is suppose to be coming soon, I don't have much faith that they will get that right
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ericshmerick:
So I have had my Galaxy Nexus GSM imported model (ATT in the US) and while I do like it, the Note is interesting to me.

Anyone have/had both and preferred the Note? If so, why?

I could sell the GNEX and get the Note for little cost to me. It's tempting...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] calin75:
check here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1374506

I had both, but personally I prefer the Note.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] howard bamber:
nexus v note

Yes I have both /gsm. Much prefer the note. Its the whole phone,pen,screen size for movies

I just love it
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] capitansid:
Best Phone

The only thing you have to watch out with a note (if you're an average user not a modder like most people) is the size of the thing...

Other than that, you have nothing else to complain about... :victory:

This phone is the beast! :highfive:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] msedek:
I own both nexus and note (note 2x).. Also a gtab 10.1 a gtab 7plus an lg o2x and so far the best device its the note.. But there's only 3 days left for note 2(Wich I'm getting on day 1).. Why not to wait for it?

Enviado desde mi LG-P990 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] PoisonWolf:
I love the Note...but I doubt my next phone will be a phone of this screen size. It gets tiring after a while. Lol.

I'm also never buying a non-Nexus device again after this.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] finbaar:
I have just given my Note to my wife and got a GNex . As much as I like the Note it was just too big for my use. Also I craved aosp and CM on the Note was never fully functional for me.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kulisap:
+1

the size doesn't feel that good in the long run. i switched on a smaller phone.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] zkyevolved:
+1

I really like the Note. I really REALLY do! IF the Note 2 offers a big jump in tech, then I'll get it. All logic points to a no. We're looking at an SGS3 (which is a great phone, but maybe not worthy of an upgrade if you already have a Note) with a larger screen and an SPen.

I would like to wait and see what the next Nexus devices look like and have in stock for us. Hopefully The SGS3 in a Nexus form would be good :) hehe. 4.8" display would be a good compromise.
[Thrive General] _Alex_:
This is a bit late, but I've been kicking myself since Black Friday, as I set my wife up on two machines and myself on two machines to pick up the Thrive 8GB for $199.

She managed to get one, but for me, it stalled when loading the CC page, hung and eventually let me buy it, only to see an out of stock email about 15 minutes later...

I'm trying to see how many thrives were out there? Looked on fatwallet and the ultra secret black friday sale thread jokingly said there were only 5. If so, I don't feel so bad :)

So if you're one of the lucky few or know of someone that was, please tell, to help my bruised ego :p

P.S. Love dalepi's ROMs :)
[Thrive General] dalepl:
Well, thank you. It is an honor to have a Senior Mod say that.
[Thrive General] Rhonda19:
I didnt get that one...but did manage to get a Toshiba Thrive 8gb for my son for Christmas ...Black Friday at Best buy. But it was 279.00. I was kind of disappointed at the 8gb...but I felt the price was decent. I bought one for myself too!
[Thrive General] Nexiis:
I too missed out on the NewEgg deal, but picked one up from amazon for the same price around 5pm on BF.

Hopefully there are more of us on here.
[Thrive General] lemnad:
I got one from Newegg for $199.
[Thrive General] r3dd09:
was trying to snag one up for my mother, I do hope there was only 5 in stock, that way i dont feel bad for not getting one.
[Thrive General] smoon609:
Unfortunately I didnt. I too bought it from best buy. I was able to nab one when the workers told me that they didnt have any asus and for awhile said they had no thrives. Makes me believe they hid a few for themselves. I dont need 8gb and love the full hdmi and usb. I just use it for a media center and browsing online with some other apps. All in all i love it.
[Thrive General] greenmky:
I've got one of the Newegg 8gb models. I had my eye on the Thrive for a while - so when doing Black Friday stuff I saw it go up on fatwallet - I camped out in front of the PC for it.

Basically I made sure my newegg account was logged in, made sure my shipping/CC info was ready to go, and got ready. It was basically click-click-click-click-stupid Mastercard verification-click.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dr.duct_mossburg:
I thought about it and even on employee discount I couldn't justify it. It's such minimal difference I can't bring myself to do it. I'll stick with my car charger and 3500MaH Boost Pak.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
Why? lol shouldn't that be obvious?

The difference is actually pretty large. With the 2100mAh battery in there it drains about the same speed as my Galaxy S II (bit slower, actually)...and that's on LTE. Granted, I haven't been using the phone *too* much, but even on Standby LTE eats up the battery fairly quickly.

Like I said, I haven't been using it too much, but I've done enough (downloaded some things, browsed a bit, messaging, facebook, etc...). For awhile it hovered around 58%, then it actually went back up to 60%. I know the phone doesn't have a completely accurate reading, but my battery widget measures voltages to get a % and it's always been dead accurate. As it stands it looks like this thing will have no trouble making it through the day.

Screen on-time is 1:40. Not very much, but not bad considering how much LTE usually drains.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DarkKnight62:
i think uninstalling TasKiller might actually be better for your battery life than having it installed on your phone. it was either after 2.0, 2.1 or 2.2 that taskillers ended up eating more battery life than they were saving.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dr.duct_mossburg:
Well it's not obvious for me because im spending $50 for an extra 13%. That's one of the weakest extended battery jumps I have ever seen. I just can't justify spending $50 to basically get an extra 30 minutes with my phone.

Honestly, I've gotten so tired of such the break through in technology and watch battery technology progress so little in terms of size goes. With the way the phones are progressing, We should have a 3500mah at this size.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dr.duct_mossburg:
It was dependent on the model if im not mistaken, not so much the platform of android it was on. A lot of phones started coming out with integrated task managers already installed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MMcCraryNJ:
You guys know that if you walk into a Verizon corporate store to buy the extended battery, it's 50 percent off, right? Making it 24.99. I purchased mine today. I called my store beforehand to make sure they had stock and made sure they knew about the discount. At first they told me it was only for the extra stock battery with the external charger, but after looking it up, they found it. Even though I didn't have a Verizon account setup at that point (phone is being delivered tomorrow and I'm a new customer), I walked in and got the discount with no issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slvfox:
Same here. I didn't even have to ask if it was 50% off. They told me. I think it's $25 well spent.
[Desire General] gpkumaran:
Guys,

I`ve been with our forum for some period as of now. I`m one of those unlucky Desire owners :( with the infamous desire problem. here is what will happen:

My desire reboots

1. if i use 3g for some time, it gets hot just below the battery (somewhere in between the Sdcard and the sim). also it gets reboot immediately if i use 3g at full speed(eg.SpeedTest app)

2. if i use some cpu hungry applications(games etc.) for sometime.

3. If i connect to PC and tether it(immediately)

As i wasn`t under warranty, i cudn`t replace the motherboard. Here in india they ask around 7000 INR for replacing it.

So, i tried some other methods Like undervolting, underclocking, both with a lot of ROMs. but i always got the problem again in some time so that i cudn`t use Mobile data in my phone..

I have tried using Starburst, Gingerburst, Runnymede AIO etc. with various kernels

Atlast I tried Redux v1.2 and i noticed the reboots have stopped ;) . So, I advise all those with the reboot problem to try

1. Redux v1.2 with

2. ManU v2.0 HAVS CFS AXI 128 Kernel

Pls reply here with results and hit thanx if working :D
[Desire General] SEngine:
Ok but the real issue is that (sorry for you) your motherboard is cooked.

Also my Desire had this problem and the only solution was the change of the MB (under warranty).

In any case try also Oxygen/Devnull ROM - clean, fast and too there you can change the CPU speed. ;)

Good Luck
[Android Apps and Games] HECTOR-ZERONI:
If you love GTA 3 its now available on the android market for $4.99 :)

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rockstar.gta3
[Android Apps and Games] addisj:
lol.......
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Skrazz:
(VZW version.) Thinking an activation and roaming update might help with my shoddy signal strength. Any clues?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] burningembers:
I was under the impression that Verizon LTE SIM cards update automatically and that a *228 or *22899 runs the risk of actually disabling it.

Maybe wait for new modems? :/
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HanMan5000:
Hello everyone,

I'm having internet problems, so this is the first time I've ever actually needed to tether. So far I've went to the market and downloaded a nice little tethering app that seems to be working nicely, for 3G anyway.

My question is if there is a tethering app that will allow me to tether with 4G speeds. 3G is on the slow end, and at times it can be an annoyance. I am rooted running the Revival rom.

Thank you in advance.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onilink67:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta7.apk&can=2&q=
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
Why not just use the Hotspot Hack? It should be built in to revival.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HanMan5000:
Thank you, SO MUCH. I'm now on 4G tethered, and it's so great.

It didn't work for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Errant33:
Taken FROM http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11732-galaxy-nexus-root-procedure-broken-adb-method-dont-use/

With the big change of YOU WILL BOOT LOOP WAIT FOR ADB TO RESPOND and push all the commands then pull the battery and disconnect your USB cable and reboot normal you should have perm root!

**As always RootzWiki nor myself are responsible if something goes wrong. Root your phone at your own risk with the understanding it will void your warranty and there is always a chance of something going wrong.**

*This method WILL WIPE YOUR DATA*

First download Galaxy Nexus FYA Root Package and extract it to c:\gnexroot (for the purposes of this guide)

Also if you wipe and format remember to re-enable Debug mode before restarting processes listed above.

Method

1. First, navigate to C:\gnexroot and install the Samsung drivers (Samsung_USB_Driver_for_Moblie_Phones_v1_4_6_0.exe)

1. If those drivers dont work download pdanet from here http://forum.xda-dev....php?p=19709279 and let pdanet install the drivers for you. Worked for some of us.

2. With the phone turned OFF, hold VOLUME UP + VOLUME DOWN and power the phone on. This will put you in bootloader mode.

3. Navigate again to C:\gnexroot, and hold SHIFT on your keyboard, and right click in the white space. Then, click 'Open command window here'

4. In the command prompt, type:

fastboot oem unlock

You will be prompted to confirm that you wish to unlock the bootloader. You do, of course.

5. Once the bootloader has been unlocked, it's time to boot up the device using the insecure boot.img (ro.secure=0 set in the ramdisk). This essentially means you have permanent root for the duration of this boot session. In order to boot up using that boot image, simply type:

fastboot boot boot.img

Don't expect to see anything wildly different during the boot process - it will boot as normal.

6. Once the phone has booted, in the command prompt window, type the following commands, pressing enter after each line:

adb root

adb remount

adb push su /system/bin

adb push Superuser.apk /system/app

adb shell chmod 06755 /system/bin/su

adb shell chmod 06755 /system/app/Superuser.apk

adb reboot

Again I did NOT write these steps nor did I take credit for this procedure. My goal was to have all this information easy to access here so people don't brick their new device

Edit:

If you get stuck at the google logo and cannot push adb commands, pull the battery and usb cable then reinsert and reboot. If this doesn't work Reboot into recovery and wipe everything and start over.

12/17/2011

If you do a factory restore remember to boot at least once after and re-enable debug mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aldouse:
anyone had the issue of not being able to unlock the bootloader?

i ran the command "fastboot oem unlock" and it just sticks at the response: <waiting for device>

but nothing shows on my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Thrillhouse847:
I would guess your computer is not recognizing the device. Try installing the drivers and connecting the phone to the computer while it is in normal mode not the bootloader. It should install the drivers correctly that way and your computer will then recognize it when you boot into the bootloader and the commands should work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aldouse:
yea... you are right... it was the samsung drivers not fully loading. re-installed the drivers then doing a windows update showed that there's a new set of samsung drivers on the windows update that needed to be installed. that did the trick.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
The superboot method worked just fine for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tiny4579:
same though I had a bootloop but it did root itself.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] innov8ion:
You must be in recovery mode. Turn the phone off, press volume up and down as well as power. Keep it there until you're in recovery and then unlock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mandelbrot.Benoit:
Its not recovery mode, but fastboot mode. If you are in recovery fastboot won't be recognized. Looks like he got it fixed by checking his drivers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hogowner:
can you also use this method for a Verizon Galaxy Nexus???

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1392310

is there any difference?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Errant33:
Superboot method actually does the same thing as this method from what I read just one is automatic and one is manual.

Being I didn't see anyone else rooting from Verizon I took the time to figure out a manual method so i can verify each step and figure out issues if I ran in to any. With Superboot its either it works or it doesn't there is no playing with procedures.

This should work for other carriers to, I can only verify it for Verizon though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] richmelchr:
I get past <adb reboot bootloader> just fine but then when I do a <fastboot oem unlock> it just says "waiting for device" forever. everything is installed but under my drivers it says;

"Android 1.0" drivers not installed.

plz someone help, ive searched all over the net but only found help for HTC phones and 2007 old posts.

edit: I am in "Fastboot mode"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fatsix:
Update the Samsung ADB driver under device manager while you are sitting in the bootloader. I'm bootlooping after pushing the boot.img
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] richmelchr:
got it working, "Note: 1" under this guide fixed it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1392310

thanks again XDA!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fatsix:
GOod. Mine is still bootlooping back to the Google screen with a lock on it.

Booted into recovery, formatted. At least i can boot up now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Errant33:
Sounds like you didn't successfully unlock your bootloader. Have you resolved this?