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[HTC Rezound] Bluesnake01:
Re-read the contract. It clearly states what you are able to do and not able to do with your mobile data. You signed the contract on their terms, not yours.

No, its actually paying to watch a concert and paying for backstage passes to watch it and have more access behind.

Not saying that we should pay because I agree, we shouldn't pay more. But it clearly states their terms before signing or renewing the contract. You pretty much can't do nothing about and it is illegal using your mobile data outside of its terms.
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
That analogy break down though... With regards to the network access, internet is internet, data is data. From the networks perspective there really is no difference. You are not paying for greater access because we already have full and complete access. Its only a matter of how I display that information to myself.
[HTC Rezound] Kane5581:
I'm sorry but F that, THEY ARE STEALING. I pay for unlimited data, its mine, I own it, I can use it how I please, my phone that I also own was designed and built with the capability to share its data connection which verizon chooses to block, as long as I'm not breaking any laws watching kiddie porn or sharing copyrighted material I should be able to tether as much as I like. I understand its in the contract, but it shouldn't be and that is the reason I choose to violate it. There is a difference between what is legal and what is right, if someone is doing something that is legal but wrong like charging people twice for the same thing I will find a way around it everytime, I will go out of my way and pay someone else $35 a month for a way around it if I have to.
[HTC Rezound] Bluesnake01:
So you're telling me that its OK to go watch a movie in a theater and record it at the same time since I paid to watch it. If you signed the contract, you SIGNED to their terms. No one hold a gun told to your head making you signed it, you did it on your own. The phone has the capabilties to do it but it comes up to the provider whether they want to allow it or not. You want the extras, pay for it. Don't like it? Move on to the next provider that allows it.
[HTC Rezound] smokindank42o:
or you could perm root and get wireless teather for free but ya you could drop 30 bucks a month
[HTC Rezound] Kane5581:
Your analogy sucks, movie theaters don't charge you twice for the same movie. The only time I remember paying twice for the same movie is when I saw it in the theater and then bought the DVD, so I really didn't need to videotape it did I? They also didn't tell me which specific dvd player I could watch my DVD on, they didn't tell me I couldn't watch it on a friends DVD player, even better they didn't tell me that I couldn't broadcast it to any tv that I own, i can watch my dvd on 8 tvs at once, why? Because I bought the movie, its mine, I can view it anywhere on any device I like. Just like I bought the data, its mine, I SHOULD be able to view it on any device I like without an extra fee. And because I SHOULD be able to I do.

These providers have a oligopoly on the market which allows them to legally steal, they all do it there isn't another provider they have an unwritten agreement. So if they can cheat the system then so can I and if enough of us do it we will eventually win and they will stop the practice and move on to the next way to extort money from their customers because $100 a month from damn near everyone in the civilized world isnt enough i guess. Regardless of what the contract says or how much they want to make it so, it is NOT an extra, it is a natural capability of MY phone which uses MY data that I have already paid for.
[HTC Rezound] rlucas2k:
It is stealing from them and other users. Period you did not buy the data you signed up for it but data itself was not sold to you just a rental plan basically.

The term "data" is wrong you are paying to rent their "bandwidth" and using it out of the terms of your contract is using bandwidth that's not yours making it harder for the company to keep track of it.

Wonder why they have outages on 4G maybe because they built there network to handle the people that payed for it. But it gets overloaded because it's being stolen

A better comparison of would be a utility bill where you pay for usage of something other than something you buy like electricity or water, your data is billed more like a utility. You don't own it never will
[HTC Rezound] Itismetravis:
that is the dumbest analogy ive ever heard....not even truly comparable...what this is like is like the iphone having a free text messaging which it does, but still trying to charge you a texting plan because you used it! data is data is data is data.....and i didnt see crap in the contract i signed about using wifi tether or work arounds for data. its not an extra if i use 2 gigs of data by streaming netflix or wifi tethering its still 2 freaking gigs......let them try to charge me....if it was ILLEGAL then i would get prosecuted not charged!!! and if they even dare try to charge me my ass will be lawyered up faster then you can say chuck norris....
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
while this may not be stealing, it is breach of contract and as such they could terminate your service.

And the analogy of it being like the electricity, its not the same. Just like with the electric, I have to pay more per kwatt if I go over a certain amount. I don't have a choice, its just the way it is. There are no choices for power or water in San Antonio so you just have to deal with it.

NO one is forcing you to be on verizon. If you break your contract and get caught there could be repercussions. What will probably happen in the next 12 months is a soft cap of data if people continue to abuse it.
[HTC Rezound] f3liC:
Stop bending over and accepting their contract then. I don't even know how a decision like that was even allowed to pass through of which we're told we cannot or can use our data in that manner. It is a totalitarian mind set and we should not accept that. So please, do not defend Verizon on this. They are nothing more than a greedy company who wants more of your money when they already make tons.

Think of it like this:

What if verizon charges you for x app for y price with their own app?

Now replace x and y.

What if Verizon charges you $20 for Verizon's version of google maps?

What if Verizon charges you $10 for Verizon's version of google navigation?

What if Verizon charges you $5 for Verizon's version of a flashlight?

What if Verizon charges you $5 for Verizon's version of a music player?

What if Verizon charges you $2 for Verizon's version of an alarm clock?

Many of these apps already do exist on Verizon and I bet you wouldn't use it BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER APPS WHICH DO THE SAME THING AT NO COST.

So then let me ask you.

What if Verizon charges you $30 a month for Verizon's version of tethering?
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
You should probably go Google some news about the real reason for their outages. Then you wouldn't have to wonder.
[HTC Rezound] davidstech11:
Here We Go Again

It's UNLIMITED for your SMARTPHONE. Not your Playstation/XBOX/Laptop.

If I have a unlimited data plan on my SMARTPHONE its not wrong to pay extra to have extra data for the mobile hotspot. As long as my extra money gives data to OTHER devices I'm fine (within reason for x amount of data for cost). However, it needs to change IF your on the more and more common tired plans. If your already paying for X amount for data (2GB or 4GB, etc) why would I (why should we?) pay for BEING ALLOWED to use a feature my device already does. Since we already would be paying for ALL data used there should be no need to pay extra for extra data. We already pay for all usage.

In short: If I have unlimited data I pay to use the mobile hotspot. If I am already paying for all usage on a tiered plan then I am using the mobile hotspot WITHOUT the plan since I will already have to pay for all usage anyway. What we do with our 2GB or 4GB block of data is for each of us to decide.
[HTC Rezound] Jfichtner:
It's always funny to me when everyday people defend these giant corporate behemoths like Verizon, as if they are always on the up and up. They have been nickel diming me and keeping me from being able to use the full feature set of my phone for years and years! Remember when cameras first started coming on phones? They provided no way of getting the data out via the USB cable, but of course they made it a breeze to send picture messages for 25 cents each. It was also difficult to put music on those phones, but is sure was easy to buy music from the Verizon music store! The advent of Android essentially forced them to open up a little bit, but of course they're still biting and clawing to continue their Gestapo ways, EVEN WHEN IT BREAKS THE LAW (http://www.xda-developers.com/android/it-is-illegal-for-verizon-to-lock-some-bootloaders/)

By the way, I've seen some analogies, and I've seen some debate about whether some of these analogies are appropriate, but how about this one: What Verizon is doing with charging for tethering would be EXACTLY like your broadband internet provider charging you to connect more than one device on your home network! Say, like connecting your phone through wi-fi (in addition to your desktop), for example? How ridiculous does that sound? But that's about the most appropriate analogy possible, because that's basically exactly what they're doing. VERIZON IS AN ISP, NOTHING MORE, so they should stop with the BS and just simplify it down to that level, and get their hands out of my pockets!!!!
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
Breaking down between Tiered and unlimited is probably the best way to think about it.

From what I gather from the article, restricting tethering would also violate the regulation. Tiered data is probably on shaky ground as well.

So in the end, for Verizon 4G devices, tethering for free is us exercising our rights, they can not force us to use their hotspot app, because our device can tether naively, or we can use 3rd party apps that are free to use.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
once again, no one is forcing you to use verizon. If they bother you so much, sprint would love to have you.

What they are doing is not illegal. It is in the contract that you agree to, plain and simple.
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
A contract can not get them out of following the regulations placed on the spectrum.

If you write a contract for having someone commit a crime for you, you will be arrested as well.

If the FCC has requirements on the use of the spectrum that Verizon LTE is using, and those regulations say that they can not limit or prevent access to the spectrum to their customers. Then tethering is not against the rules. The regulation clearly states customers can use any device they want free of limitations from Verizon. If I built an LTE hotspot modem by hand from parts I am free to use that device on Verizons network provided that I am a paying customer. Verizon can not deny my use of that device.

Basically... paying for a data plan makes you a paying customer authorized to use the LTE signal. Do to the regulations Verizon can not dictate how I use the data/bandwith. (provided I am not breaking laws or purposely trying to cause problems)

It even says that preventing over-saturation/use/congestion is not a viable excuse to impose any restrictions. The regulations make it very difficult for Verizon to give valid reasons for imposing restrictions. They can impose restrictions for certain reasons, but those are limited and do not apply to things like tethering or locked devices or even apps.

Edit:

Looked up the specs on the Rezound to see exactly which spectrum band/block it uses. Band/class 13, which is C block spectrum. The Rezound fits into the regulations. This may be why we got the HTCDev unlock ability.
[HTC Rezound] Jfichtner:
So, just because I agree to their terms of service, that makes it legal for them to violate the terms that THEY agreed to when purchasing the the spectrum? I'm not arguing that I'm not violating their terms of service, I'm just saying I follow my own code of ethics (believe it or not sometimes laws and contracts don't define my code of ethics), and I don't feel the least bit bad about taking what I feel is rightfully mine from a greedy ass company that has continuously shown that they have no intention of practicing good business ethics by making it more difficult for me to use my hardware the way it was designed without paying them extra money. Of course I could switch carriers, but I'm stuck with them for a while due to contacts. But I don't even think that's relevant anyway. I'll pay their higher prices for their better coverage and faster Internet, but that doesn't mean I can'tcomplain about their BS business practices. And I certainly am not going to agree with you that I'm stealing. I'm just not letting them steal from me!!!
[HTC Rezound] Marine6680:
A "Terms of Use" is invalid if it violates law or regulations.
[HTC Rezound] Shahaed:
Comparison to water bill. If I fill up my bottle with water and take it outside, am I violating something? Same with data. I use my data on another device. Data I am paying $30 a month for. They really are an ISP.
[HTC Rezound] brett014:
the only people stealing are verizon... i already paid for my data once, how many times do you want us to pay for it just curiously?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Mrcojocaru:
where the heck is it? I've googled, searched the dev section, and its nowhere to be found. Maybe im missing something??
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] hinghing1113:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1372690

this should be it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Mrcojocaru:
I saw that one.. but in the title it says 0.0.5 and from what im hearing theres an updated version
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Mrcojocaru:
aha!!! I think i found it

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10953-ke...ingdec-04/page__st__30__p__290343#entry290343

It doesn't specify t989 though
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] hinghing1113:
I would wait little bit for the kernal, caz the OTA will have new rom which enable wifi calling.

so there will be a new custom rom which have wifi calling.

you can try to install both at rom and kernal after we have the custom rom which has wifi calling.
[Kindle Fire General] jtb224:
The question I have is quite simple. Does it matter what operating system you use to root the Kindle? I'm using 64bit Windows 7, and just wanted to make sure before attempting root. Thanks for any and all info!
[Kindle Fire General] movieaddict:
i rooted using win 7 ultimate 64 and it worked fine so it shouldnt matter
[Kindle Fire General] jtb224:
Awesome thanks so much! Just wanted to get all my ducks in a row before attempting to brick my new Kindle lol.
[Kindle Fire General] sl0ttedpig:
Used Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit with no problems.

Actually, I lied, I did have 1 problem which will really mess with you (and took me a while to work out how to resolve)! Make sure you don't have Droid Explorer installed. :)
[Kindle Fire General] jtb224:
I don't have any root management tools on my computer, wanting to do the same also on my Motorola Atrix but would freak if I bricked it haha.
[Kindle Fire General] jtb224:
Would Droid Explorer work after rooting the Kindle though?
[Kindle Fire General] sl0ttedpig:
It's possible that it would, but it seems to run adb as a service. You'd potentially have to modify the adb_usb.ini that Droid Explorer uses to include 0x1949. However, can't confirm either way, as I can't be bothered to install Droid Explorer again! :)

Uninstalling it might have been extreme, as it's possible I could have found the service and stopped/disabled it, but as I didn't use it, there was little point in keeping it there.
[Kindle Fire General] jtb224:
Ok, will let you know how it comes this weekend:) Mainly I can still go by the main Root article on here can't I? Even though the updates have come out, root file and process should still be the same?
[Kindle Fire General] sl0ttedpig:
Yep, the process hasn't changed despite KF updates. Pretty easy to do as long as follow the instructions to the letter.
[Kindle Fire General] jtb224:
Does anyone know if there is an updated process to rooting the Kindle Fire, or is it still the same process as before from November? I know that the Kindle has had an update or two since then, and just wanted to make sure the process was still the same before attempting root?
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Nothing has changed... the same rooting methods work with all versions of KF up to 6.2 so far.
[Kindle Fire General] jtb224:
Last question before attempt. Is there anything I need to do to prepare for root on Kindle Fire such as backup or anything in case of brick? I would hate to perm brick my new Kindle and be stuck:) Only thing I can think of is just to copy all of the SDK files from Kindle root source.
[Verizon Droid Charge] estesdogg:
Anyone have GTA3 from market working on their charge?

Mine downloaded fine but then just sits at a black screen the goes back to launcher after about 5 seconds.

I'm running infinity 1204
[Verizon Droid Charge] JoeVsFox:
Sorry to say, but our Samsung Charges don't have the nVidia Tegra 2 that GTA3 for Android was built around... You're SOL man. Might still be able to refund your purchase and get yourself a PSP. All jokes aside though I did the same thing and looked it up after. Only phones with the chipset Tegra 2 can operate GTA3.
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Have you tried using Chainfire 3D?
[Verizon Droid Charge] usererror404:
Tried with Chainfire, no luck. Chainfire emulates Tegra's decoding and processing, but can't emulate its hardware, IIRC, so some games (Riptide GP) work perfectly, some games (Galaxy on Fire 2) are glitchy as hell but playable, and some (well, this) just don't work at all.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ilovesoad:
There's some people without tegras workings. Just depends I guess.
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Probably need better hardware...
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
There may be hope. I was poking around in the Galaxy Tab forums (I have one, plus it has the same CPU and GPU). lo and behold, I found the same thread there. One person said this:
[Verizon Droid Charge] ilovesoad:
It works fine now after update.
[Verizon Droid Charge] the sandman89:
Still not working for me after the update
[Verizon Droid Charge] letsgophillyingeneral:
It worked for me after the update, however, the game lagged pretty bad and eventually froze. It didn't FC, it eventually came back but it wasn't playable. I haven't tried it again since.
[Verizon Droid Charge] JoeVsFox:
So after uninstalling GTA3, I am not unable to re-install it. The Market claims my device in not compatible with it. How did I download it before then??? Any ideas here?
[Verizon Droid Charge] kvswim:
Apply Market Fix. I think it's in jrummy's ROM toolbox
[Verizon Droid Charge] JoeVsFox:
Did the trick. Runs fairly smooth enough to tolerate. Thanks.
[Verizon Droid Charge] adrenaline_rush:
This sums it up for me, our poor Hummingbird can't keep up :(

Still worth the $3, it's nostalgic, and good to keep for a future more powerful device :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] letsgophillyingeneral:
Luckily, I just got an ASUS Transformer and GTA3 runs amazingly well. :cool:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jayo727:
Does anyone use Autokiller on this phone? I used to run it with my prehistoric Hero but I'm not sure if it's really needed on this phone. Any thoughts?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] evantribley:
Definitely not necessary. If you really want to use a task manager its already built into touch wiz, just click and hold the home button.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Koltxlvii:
I used to use it religiously on my old HTC Hero as well. Wouldn't go a day without it enabled.

This phone doesn't need it at all :). The advanced tweaks are nice, but if you are using a ROM like Blazer/etc, it's mostly all done. Other tweaks can be applied with Rom Toolbox/SD Card Boost/etc.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
You really shouldn't use Task killers.

Android can handle apps itself.

Its best just to use Watch dog and have your apps watched over.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Koltxlvii:
AutoKiller (although the name sounds misleading) really isn't an "Auto task killer". From the official description: "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer is not a regular task manager, it is an award winner minfree tweaker, it fine tunes android systems inner memory manager to keep your device fast over time. As a side effect it also lowers battery consumption. Also includes a manual process/service manager."

On older phones it's highly recommended (requires root). Made my Hero much much more responsive.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ssconceptz:
Regardless, do NOT use task killers on newer Android devices, especially dual core phones. There is a built in task killer for the EPIC and works good when needed but Android 2.3 is smart enough to do the task killing on its own.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Pre-froyo (2.2) that was true, not any longer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Koltxlvii:
What changed in Froyo that made Autokiller not worth it? My Hero had the latest nightly Cyanogenmod ROM(s) and Autokiller was still a great improvement.

I completely agree that it's not needed for the E4GT.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rast4man:
I use it and swear by it. I've used all the other "top" task killers/task managers and this one uses the least resources. I also use zepplinrox's V6 Supercharger Script and I'm able to save the preset to 1000HP in the script. For me it's convenient and quick to kill what I don't want running at the particular moment.

Some people like it and use it, others don't. I do and I love it.

Regards,

rast4man
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
I used one on my Evo and my Hero. Definitely not necessary on this phone. There is so much ram and the processor can actually handle them well. It really only benefits you if you want to kill games/apps, or if one of them freezes.

Otherwise, undervolt your phone and make a couple of tweaks on your kernel and never worry about it! ;)

Sent from my CM7 Galaxy S II.
[Motorola Droid and Milestone General] NJ___Jon:
The side camera button works. I have tried the settings. Black on the viewfinder - no movement of objects at all...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] jalexishg:
First of all huge thanks to Djn541 for putting this together for us.

I DIDN'T DO NOTHING BUT REPOST THIS FROM ROOTZWIKI.

I already spoke to Djn541 and I got his permission to post this here.

Me or Djn541 are NOT responsable of you devices getting bricked, you computer crashing, you dog running away or your GF dumping you.

Enjoy and Happy Flashing !!

Changelog :

Build - 03192012-1833

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* ** Disable render effect for screenshots

* ** Add option to mute media when silent mode is toggled

* ** Add individual contact call history and show groups yes/no setting on call log.

* ** Allow focus sound muting for Camera

* ** added format number option to dialer*

* ** add option to enable/disable ICS rotation animation

* ** ADW: add sortable apps list for catalog setup

* ** FM: allow tuner to loop from upper back to lower and lower back to upper

* *ICS fonts and customizable miui-battery-bar.

Previous Builds :

Links :

GET NEKKID !!!

Gapps !!!!! Here...​
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] jalexishg:
Screenshots (Thanks to JG96EVO) :
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Paleryder:
Awesome, I've run DJs Kangs on gigglebread since they came out and was never disappointed thanks
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] snoopy1e11:
Downloading now will report back soon
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Techno Droid:
Any screen shots?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] corythug:
Word. Thanks. Grabbing now.

Follow the leader @corythug ;)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] jalexishg:
Working on it... If any of you guys get any screenshot before me post them, I'll add them to the OP.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] dazednconfused:
Dj's Kangs are awesome. Been running them before and since he started posting them on Euroskank. You won't be disappointed.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] JG96EVO:
Just flashed,Here's ur screenies hope this helped :D:cool:

What Gapps do i use BTW?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] jalexishg:
Thanks a lot.