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[Kindle Fire General] garajo:
SkOrPn Jig fixed my Kindle in 2 minutes!

Just wanted to say:

I contacted SkOrPn less than 4 days ago to acquire a Factory Cable after I soft-bricked my KF2 (stuck on the Kindle screen with no animation); and I received it this morning. Within two minutes, I had it in Fastboot Mode, copied over backup Recovery.img, and factory-restored my device back to perfect working order.

Can't say enough good things. This FB cable is magic. Thanks SkOrPn! :good:
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Hey guys, I now have much thicker cables that are now gold plated on the PC side. I found another supplier who has higher quality micro usb connectors, so I grabbed a few and was surprised just how nicely made they are. If you want one of these new gold plated Factory Cables, let me know in PM please. Thanks
[Kindle Fire General] Onoitsu2:
I still have the one I ordered, still has the twist tie on it, but has seen lots of use, for not showing it. I recommend getting a branding stamp, that melts your scorpion logo into it. Cause the sticker is attempting to flee.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Haha, attempting to flee... lol... Well I somehow ran out of those stickers anyway (expensive little vinyl stickers too), not sure how as I am 99.99% positive I had like 500 of them somewhere, but lost them and not sure how. So for now I am shipping them without a logo. I was thinking of just using 1" of red shrink tubing (I have lots of that not being used), instead of the logo's. I think the RED shrink tubing part would really stick out when your plugging the cable in and make it crystal clear what cable your using. Seriously doubt any mistakes could occur then, lol. Oh, just add a small amount of superglue to the underside of the sticker if you really want it to stay on permanently.

Since this cable has no strain relief how is it holding up for you? I've been concerned about longevity for the users who plan on using it many times. In fact, I would be willing to replace them at cost, no profit, just to make sure they last a long time. Although the new connectors (and cables) I got recently are the best I've seen to date, they still do not come with strain reliefs. And the ones that I can get with strain reliefs, the reliefs are so small that I would need usb cables the diameter of angel hair spaghetti noodles, lol, seriously. So without some sort of strain relief these just can not take any abuse. My solder joints are really good, but the cable itself can pull out of the micro USB case. I already had a guy contact me to tell me it pulled apart easily when he tried to avoid spilled coffee, which is why I try my best to get as much hot glue in the thing before closing it up.

Anyway, thanks for the report and I'm happy its still working for you :good:
[Kindle Fire General] michaelmajkyrigo:
Nothing happens even with fastboot cable

Hi, I recently bought the factory cable on Ebay. I have Amazon Kindle Fire HD 7 stucked on logo Kindle Fire. My PC can't recognize the device. I downloaded Android SDK, changed adb_usb.ini, I tried make it work on Ubuntu but nothing. And now with cable it just pop up the fastboot sign and shut down again. I am very desperate now. Does anyone has the same experience? Maybe it's something wrong with the battery. Btw I charged it like 8 hours before I plugged the factory cable.:rolleyes:
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Kindle not staying in Fastboot mode has nothing to do with drivers, it's likely the battery, did it boot to charging screen? if not it's probably not charging.

what was the exact name of cable on amazon ebay? name of seller?

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should have just bought a SkOrPn fastboot cable
[Kindle Fire General] michaelmajkyrigo:
No it did not. It just showed up and then disappeared. Here is the seller: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271314613988?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
no when you had connected to charger

It does say Fastboot/factory but it's half the cost of other Fastboot cables, but maybe fine.

But if battery is too low, it will not stay in fastboot mode

try charging again, try powering it off while connected to wall charger.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Sounds like something is wrong with the device itself, maybe the battery is too low. However, try this, when you turn on the device, with cable attached, immediately pull the factory cable out at the same time that you see the Fastboot logo. See if it stays in Fastboot mode then. Keep trying several times over to see if you can get the cable pulled before it shuts down. If it does stay in Fastboot mode after pulling the cable, then chances are the cable you got is bad. I have no clue if it will stay in Fastboot with the normal cable, but I assume it will. There are a LOT of fastboot cables that are bad from the factory (pun intended lol) in China, I was told about 20% fail. The cheaper they are the more likely they were not tested. A few months ago I purchased 10 USB 3.0 cables from ebay, and only 3 worked 7 BAD CABLES out of 10. One of the Chinese sellers was very honest with me and told me they do not test their super cheaply made cables and are simply more willing to send you another one if you get one of the bad ones... Its just easier and cheaper for them that way instead of buying testing machines or hiring lots of QA testers.

Anyway, ask the seller to send you another one if you think it may be bad, they should be more then happy to. OR, if you have a spare USB A female lying around you can test the cable you got from ebay. I can show you how if you want me to...

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Wasn't it you, or someone here that said the battery must be at least 50% in order for the device to stay on after entering into Fastboot mode? I cant remember now, but I do remember there being an official amount of juice the device must have before attempting Fastboot commands. I have had LOTs of users email me to tell me the cable worked after they put it on the charger for a full day or so, lol. Weird stuff
[Kindle Fire General] michaelmajkyrigo:
I tried that and it stays on logo after I pulled the cable off. So maybe it is the cable. I'll contact the seller. I would tried that but I am not very skilled with making cabels and so on. Thank you for your replies :good:
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Hmm, well well. Now this begs the question if YOUR data cable will now work with Fastboot. Or does it "need" the short to stay in Fastboot mode? The reason I wonder is because you can reboot into Fastboot mode via adb commands, and that does NOT require a Factory Cable. So this tells me that "maybe" you should try your normal charging/data cable while it is in Fastboot mode. If your lucky maybe it will stay in Fastboot mode. lol
[Kindle Fire General] michaelmajkyrigo:
You know I tried so many times commands like fastboot, adb devices, but always I got stucked on device not found and so on. Therefore I bought the cable in hope I could get to the recovery. No matter I try to switch cables, it always shows kindle fire logo, then for 5 second fastboot logo and then it just shuts down .
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Ok, So its still shutting down then? Even after plugging in the data cable?
[Kindle Fire General] michaelmajkyrigo:
Yes, it's still the same. I am going to let it charge during the night and in the morning I will try it again.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
OK, let us know what happens tomorrow then please. I have no hands-on experience with these devices but I'm willing to try and help just the same. If it don't work tomorrow I would ask the seller to send you one more cable just to rule out a faulty one. But it sounds like it is the device not playing nice.
[Kindle Fire General] michaelmajkyrigo:
Still not working. I am giving up :crying:
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Sorry to hear that. Hope you figure it out someday.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Kindle Fire General] gransar:
Hi,

it's been a few months and this bricked device just makes me sad.

can I mail it to you? See if you can fix it. If you like charge me a fee and

send it back, if not keep it for your self.

Thanks,

Dean.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
I would be willing to try myself as I am bored out of my skull at the moment, lol. No fees necessary just pay for transit. I have five computers here both Windows and Linux I am working with. No guarantees of course except for giving it my best effort.

Just send me a pm if you want my address and contact information.
[Kindle Fire General] Drising86:
Was gonna attempt to make a fastboot cable with a spare wire I had laying around. But once I removed everything from around the micro end solder points, there was no empty 5th point. Is it hidden beneath the metal sheath? Or perhaps the hard plastic?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
That will greatly depend, as not all manufacturers put all pins on the micro end depending on what the cable was intended for. Below is my micro ends I use and it has all pins broken out. Hope the pics help you figure it out.
[Kindle Fire General] Drising86:
So is it safe to assume that without the 5th solder point I can't use this as a fastboot cable? Surely I could remove the metal sheath to get access to the end of the 5th pin?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
You need pin 1 (red) to be shorted with pin 4 (usually no wire) in order to have a working factory cable. Pin 4 is a "sense" pin and is not necessary for normal usb cables to work (its used for specialty stuff like Docking stations etc), which is why yours does not have it.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Any progress reports? Curious if you figured it out.
[Kindle Fire General] Drising1986:
Gave up on that last cable, and found one with the 5th pin. Now, on this cable there is a white wire connected to this pin, couldn't i just strip this white wire at one end, remove the insulation from around the red wire, and just splice them together without soldering?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
As long as you are jumping pin 1 to pin 4, it doesn't matter how you do it, lol. Pin 1 to 4 gives you a factory cable.
[Kindle Fire General] nyceharry:
Fastboot cable

Do you still stock, or sell these cables in any capacity, sir? I don't have a breakout board on-hand, and if i have to order something online, i'd prefer to just purchase a cable i can be confident will work. I've managed to somewhat get Google Play working on my Kindle Fire HD 7" (3rd Gen) and i can sideload most apps and games, but a lot of the more memory intensive programs seem to just randomly crash and shut-down. I have not, or was not able to root the device, however this workaround has gotten me this far. I'm mostly a novice to the modding world, but have a few extra cables lying around.

Thank you for your time and contributions to this great community and any help you might be able to give pointing me in the right direction.

Harry

203.936.7302
[Kindle Fire General] sailor0703:
One kind?

Are these cables all the same, or do you have to use one made for kindle fire with a kindle fire? I have seen some online(on Amazon, atm, for $9.99), but they say for motorola droid. Is that cable different?
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
They should be the same I would think, but some have a resistor for safety. Motorola manufacturers the Kindles for Amazon.
[Kindle Fire General] nyceharry:
You won't find a more knowledgeable source than SkOrPn when it comes to factory cables... but yes, in the research I did, it seemed liek Motorola was kind of the gold standard as far as Kindle factory cables went. They range wildly in price, so make sure you know where you are buying from, in case it needs to be returned for any reason. Best of luck to you, sir. And thanks, as always, for sharing your immense knowledge, insight and experience, SkOrPn. Yer nice!
[Kindle Fire General] hinum009:
404 。。。
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
See low battery options in my

Moto Drivers, Firmware, RSD Lite, and other Unbricking Tools
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Pinouts of a MicroUSB 5 pin B connector:
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
I'm sure that looks 100%-300% better than some of the hack jobs that some people on the forum have done to make their own...:p

Example from a video attached.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
When I do something it has to be perfect or I'm not happy with myself. When I build or create something, I feel it reflects who I am, and it just feels so good to hear praise from others. In fact, I cant stand how messy of a job I did with what you just seen. If you had seen how meticulously perfect I bent the resistors legs, you'd have thought Im nuts. Plus I am using low quality materials in order to get my products at a price point customers want, and although it does the job it just doesn't please my eyes..

P.S. read the last sentence in my signature. I live by that statement...

Oh and I was just informed that someone else in this thread has offered to make these. I had absolutely NO CLUE what so ever that there was someone else offering to make these, so if I have stepped on anyone's toes, please forgive me. I thought this was a virgin product in its initial stages of R&D... Sorry my bad guys...

Rod
[Kindle Fire General] OmgitzFire:
SkOrPn : $14.95, is a fair price .. I'll still be willing to buy :]
[Kindle Fire General] toonakan:
Now what?

OK, I built my cable and adb shell into my device. Unfortunately, it won't let me use any adb commands. My dilemma is that when I got the 6.2.1 update (which I tried to prevent) it booted to CWM and I dont have cm7 set up correctly (long story) anyway, cwm fails to update because I don't have recovery set up in cache and it is read only so I cant create it. I am sure I am missing something easy and any advice would be welcomed.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Ok cool thank you for the vote of confidence. I have 50 cables on the way already. I think I can do this just as good as I do with my Samsung jig's, but the only thing that bothers me is not being able to test on a actual Kindle. I will have to beep it out and check continuity instead, and of course for the 1k resistance on pins 1&4.

So, is it agreed that 1k is the way to go for the short? Im going to pick up some heavier duty resistors probably in the neighborhood of 1/4 watt just for an extra safety margin, and Im sure 1/2 watt is just to big for the casing to close. Also, the next cable I make is going to ttabbal for him to test on his Kindle, and the one I already made was shipped today. Both have already paid for theirs and then some. Thanks guys...

For starters I went with 1.5 Ft cables, so hope that's not to small for everyone. Later on after a few sales I will also make some longer ones, 4 ft or so.

Also of importance, If anyone has any ideas, or has found any more info on this feature "Factory Mode" please by all means let us know, and or PM me. Would love to see some technical data on this Kindle Fire and or Atrix.

Thanks and everyone HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you all.

P.S. My Parents got almost 5 feet of snow this week and so I was forced to call off the drive up to their house. My Lexus is good in snow, but in inches not feet, lol, and his driveway is 75 yards long from the main road, so the plows would burry my car and then later probably hit it or total it by accident if it was to continue to snow. So Dad did not like hearing that the Christmas family gathering was cancelled and decided to break out his big Dodge 4x4 3/4 Ton pickup today and told me tonight he is planning to come all the way to Albuquerque to get me for the weekend. Wow what a great Father... Or did he just want to go 4 wheelin in the snow??? lol...
[Kindle Fire General] bigjkcfan:
Do you have an ETA on making these? $15 sounds reasonable and I may be interested in one if I can't get out of my current predicament.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Not really an ETA but I do know I should have the cables by end of this week according to UPS ground. Then I can start modifying them and get a small number ready for next weekend or the first part of next week. I should have a Paypal button ready this weekend I hope, with shipments going out on that Monday hopefully...

Chances are as usual you can just use Google to find them once I start selling them. They will be called "The SkOrPn Factory Cable" or something similar. Thanks for your interest and good luck with your device. Hope you can solve or fix it before I am ready with these.
[Kindle Fire General] OmgitzFire:
Sounds great !!

Would you also post it here once you start selling them ?

also would you be selling them on eBay or from where ?
[Kindle Fire General] scottalex:
Add me to the list of those looking to buy one.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Probably eBay... I have three sites I sell my other items, and one of them is eBay.
[Kindle Fire General] [-_-]:
thanks great forum need more people posting their finds such as these!!!
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
UPDATE:

Looks like these mass produced micro connectors will not work on the Kindle according to my first tester. It just wont insert into the device even though it inserted into my Sparkfun female bench tester just fine before shipping it. So I'm at a loss as this connector is identical to the tens of thousands that have sold world wide for the Samsung smartphones and Android Tablets. Everyone who manufactures JIGs use the exact same connector as its the inky one that allows room for a resistor. So my only guess is the connector needs to be made specifically for the Kindle devices. The tester has tried on his two Kindles and its a no go.

So I'm at a loss to understand what to do next. But I will keep everyone updated.
[Kindle Fire General] SikYou:
I use usb cables from my thunderbolt and inc2 for charging and connecting my fire to my computer, both cables fit fine. Also, I made my factory cable from a standard size male micro usb breakout board, fits fine (and works fine).

Sent from my Kindle Fire
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
Removed post.
[Kindle Fire General] xrishox:
does matter what kind of wire you use? is cat 5 cable okay? I just ordered 2 of those breakout boards.

so I opened one of my old usb cords, the one I planned on using and I have a few questions about that aswell... it's a mini b, not a micro cable.. does that matter? and it has all this foil and wire/cabling wrapped around it.. does that matter either?

it has all the colors: red, green, black and white.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Well I'm going to Best Buy today with a handful of connectors to try real quick. I did this with the Nexus to see if it would work and no one stopped me then. So wish me luck that they do not bounce me out of their store lol.
[Kindle Fire General] InsertUniqueHandle:
Any micro USB connector should work on the kindle. I used one that I got at a dollar store in Wisconsin. $1 was a great deal! I'll be modding it later today.

I also used the micro cable for my blackberry just now and that fit too.

Me
[Kindle Fire General] osozraz:
Hi. I just tried to make my own factory cable. I was going to do it with the micro usb that came with my Nexus One but it only has 4 connections!!!... how is that possible??
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
Just an FYI,

I still have one factory cable in stock and ready to ship. But are these even needed any more? I have plenty of the pieces still including the resistors, I just do not have the cables themselves to mod.
[Kindle Fire General] trjv:
Hey wow am I in luck! Just tried making my first cable and while it came out correctly, its going to be used on a customers device so I really didn't want to trust myself with such a quickly rigged device. The fact that you posted this today is just great :) I am highly interested in purchasing the last one if you still have it available by now! And also I would like to get a few of those micro-usb ends and honestly anything else that may come with or be helpful, got a few days off and would like to spend them tinkering :) How should I go about setting up an order?
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Not sure when Motorola changed their bootloaders, but newer devices can charge the battery.
[Kindle Fire General] SkOrPn:
PM sent, lol....
[Kindle Fire General] guitarofozz:
Is there a reason it wouldn't be used anymore? I have a fire hd 7 that i bricked trying to install cyanogenmod. it boots up, shows the amazon logo then turns back off. ADB doesnt' pick it up so I cant use any of the apps. Would a factory cable not do me any good?
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Newer Fires are not compatible with a Fastboot cable
[Kindle Fire General] mscir:
Thank you!
[Kindle Fire General] InsertUniqueHandle:
Like the rest of the thread says, pin 4 of the 5, isn't used in micro USB cables. Only 4 pins are used (1, 2, 3, 5). Most manufacturer will not even put a pin 4 or wire it. If you see 5 pins in the connector then you have to strip away the molded plastic part (where the wires come from) to expose the pin 4 so you can solder to it.

Me
[Kindle Fire General] osozraz:
Is there a way to know if a micro usb cable has all 5 pins without opening it?? Mine had the 5 connections looking the inside of the connector, but once opened it only has 4 pins.
[Kindle Fire General] InsertUniqueHandle:
The other pin is there, but just inside the plastic. They usually clip it off. You have to dig it out with a knife or melt the plastic.

Maybe a micro to micro cable has all 5? I have a micro female to micro female at home. I'll look later today.
[Kindle Fire General] InsertUniqueHandle:
That's why it's usually better to buy one of these special cables from someone who knows what they're doing.
[Kindle Fire General] OmgitzFire:
Lol let us know what happens :p
[Kindle Fire General] osozraz:
I bought one of the boards from the first post, but seeing it´s gonna take 2-3 weeks to ship where i live, i tried to make one myself.
[Kindle Fire General] nxd:
I would buy one of the cables via eBay at $15.
[Kindle Fire General] androidcues:
Ok, now I see why you would need this device, it seems like its a pacifier or (buttplug) of sorts -- does it specifically only put the device only into fastboot mode or take it out as well? I was at work and for unknown reasons the device rebooted and stuck at CM7 boot screen for like 2 hours before I noticed it... then I remembered I had ADB installed on my work computer which I hadnt used in months. I popped my G2 in and tested to see if it worked and it saw the G2. So I took out the G2 and plugged in the KF - adb devices and fastboot devices turned up nothing... i freaked because theres no way to turn the phone or pull the batt. Then I remembered I had my laptop in my car (with Fire drivers) and plugged the KF in and saw my phone and i went "WHEW!!" and idme bootmode 4000'd out and the problem was solved....

so. its either this plug or idme bootmode 4000? This is weird. This gets me thinking.. there MUST be other ways to do this, because I am sure if I had one of these plugs I would never have it around when I needed it - theyre like taxi cabs, you see them all over but when you need one...

So does this thing ONLY put device into fastboot mode or can it take device out of fastboot mode? Its kind of hard to believe it works in the way its said to work.
[Kindle Fire General] lucien12:
hello

my kindle fire is still bricked

i'm uner 6.2.1

with windows 7

problem of permission folders

impossible to boot, to use fastboot or to use KF utility..the logo was flashing and that's all.

impossible to have fastboot or acees to the system, a real brick

so i tried to make a factory cable.

and i think it was a success

now 2 things : the logo doens't flash any more, it is fix

but impossible to recognise the kindle

my computer considers it as an unknown device, impossible to reinstall the driver

i'm always bricked !!

i don't understand and i don't know what to do....

do you have an idear or some help ??

thanks

jluc:)