yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gregbrooker:
Hey guys, I am going to share my experience with this problem.

My problem first started when a flashed RunnyRom v6, the freezes were fast in between but then the SD Card started to fail and I would lose pics and all that. (Kingston 16GB Class 4)

I got a new Samsung 16GB Class 6 again flashed RunnyRom v6 but the problem started to happen more often. Randomly when the phone was idle it wouldn't wake and when I got a call the phone would either just light up and freeze or start to ring and freeze while ringing and never stop ringing, it would just loop till you did a battery pull.

Sometimes after a battery pull the phone would say it can't find the SD Card.

But let it be noted my Desire had NEVER fallen or had any hard impacts, no water exposure, hardly ever took out SD Card or SIM, maybe 4-6 times since I had the phone which is just over a year now.

This only happened with RunnyRom and even when I reverted to v5.5 (an earlier release) it still happened.

I flashed other ROMS with the same SD Card and no such errors, I even flashed RSK ROM 7.4.2 and earlier versions and none had this problem.

Runny Rom was based on RSK's early ROM so they have some similarities.

For over 3 days I ran RSK ROM with no problems at all, but minutes after going back to RunnyRom the problem was back.

I tried several Kernels and CPU settings and always got the same problem.

I always did a fill wipe and card format, I went as far as using software to do Zero Wipes of my cards and used G-parted but always the same problem.

The only way I got past the freezing was I went back to an Kingston 8GB Class 4 card with Runny ROM v6 and I have no issues at all!!! None.

It only seems to hate my 16GB Cards.

So the score is (ROM- Runny Rom v6)

Kingston 16GB Class 4 - Freezes

Samsung 16GB Class 6 - Freezes

Kingston 8GB Class 4 - Works Perfectly!

So the score is (ROM- RSK and other ROMs)

Kingston 16GB Class 4 - Works Perfectly!

Samsung 16GB Class 6 - Works Perfectly!

Kingston 8GB Class 4 - Works Perfectly!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgerinckx:
the 4gb scandisk sdcard that is delivered with the desire what class is that?

i have runny rom 6.1.1 and i also experience freezes.

should i buy the kingston 8gb class 4 ?

thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Abaszp:
Hi all,

I have the same issue for moths now... i also tride quite a few thing. the problem seemed to start afeter i changed operator (new sim) i tried to band the sim and all that. but did not help

What helped though is that i got rid of power amp (a big sucrefice because of the plug and play option) set cpu, rommanagger and after the the freezes came rarly then be for (basicly after every 48 hourse of operation)

can any one confirme that a new sim would solve the issue? (in my country a new sim within the 1st year coust about 5 eoures :D so unless its neccesary i wuold spend this on beer:D)

I also started to use a new rom (sensEVolution) seemed worikng for now, my old rom was leedroids 3.3.3 port and the freezing was unbearable...

It uses 2.6.35.8 nsq kernel (the lee used 2.6.35.12) so i hope a this solve the issue.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hypnox99:
Hello everybody,

I have my HTC Desire for 2 years and I got pissed really quickly when I was getting out of space. I bought a 8 GB Sandisk Micro SD card , I thought that it would solve my problem but no.

My HTC Desire worked "well" at this time excepting some "not mounted sd card" issues and some strange behaviors with permissions on files on this sd card...

So I rooted my device and installed MIUI, partionnioned etc... And my device started to crash, I would say 2-3 months after that. Like 1 or 2 crashes per day. Pretty sure that it was the rom I changed for Oxygen and almost no crashes at all.

And then I wanted to try sense 3.0 and 3.5 roms, result : first boot crash, reboot, crash when in idle, crash when recieving sms etc... The same happened with ICS roms (it was even worse, more than 10 crashes a day ? automatic reboot...)

SO, I bought a new card because I got some feeling that it was the card... I got it today, it's a Samsung 32 GB Class 10 card. I reflashed, etc... with RunnyRom 6.1.1...

Guess what ? No crashes at all since I'm using hit, I hope it will remain like this but if it's not the SIM card connector or the kernel it's pretty sure the sd card...

I will keep you updated on this.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sgerinckx:
Hypnox99, did your phone crash again ? Or is the problem solved with thr new sd card?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Usama Ahmed:
HELP

Hi. I also have desire which freezes whenever i install custom sense 3.5 rom. In every sense 3.5 rom, it freezes occasionally. On aosp roms (CM7 and ics 4.04) it is working flawlessly. Plz can anyone help me. i desperately want to install sense 3.5 rom but it freezes some times which is very annoying.

I also have changed hboots(CM7r2, fatsys, stock). Currently i have stock hboot and CM7 Rom.

I have HTC Desire PVT4 S-Off, the sd card is kingston 16gb class 4. If any other information you want to know, plz let me know.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hypnox99:
Okay, little update day by day since the day I got the new SD card.

Thursday : Made a trip of 5 hours, apart the fact that the phone rebooted once because of the high battery temperature, no crash and no freezes.

But in the evening the phone freezed twice when accessing the list of applications. So I tried stability test, crashes after 16 min, 9 min, 6 min, 30 sec and 6 sec, it was getting worse and worse but only while running stability test.

Friday : Changed the kernel for the one that offer battery calibrating fix for sense, launched stability test after that 2 hours, 8 hours test without crash.

Dunno what to say there.

Saturday : Not a single crash.

So i'm not sure that it's totally sd card related but i'm sure that for me it was the sd card.

About the stability test crashes I noticed that after each crash when rebooting, the battery percentage went off like 10-15 maybe it might be battery related because off the calibrating I made Wednesday evening with the new rom.

I will keep you updated on this in the next days. I really enjoy using my desire now...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Abaszp:
Hi. I've been doing quite a lot of reading on the web about kernel and UV and also OC.

Now this freezing problem in my opinion is a power issue.

I have changed my kernel to gingercake 0.9 and highered the uv voltages (248 to 1000mV the min and the highest 998 is 1250mv) and i did this 5 days ago no freeze any more.

Now i think that the bending of the SD slot can help because the connection between the card and the phone will be better therefore the phone needs less power to read it also changing the card may fit better ib the slot or mats of better conducting material so the under powered phone can have enough voltage to run properly. Also if you have more programs on the SD it needs to be read more frequently so that could explain that after full wipe the phone is fine for while and later restarting the freezing issue

But i think changing the kernel or maybe simply highering the UV values significantly can help.

It did for me!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowCodeGaming:
People are you seriously considering changing sd cards, if it is a rom error. IT IS SENSE 3.5. It can not run on a desire. flash sense 2.1 and ur problems are gone ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Abaszp:
I am running 2.1 and i had the freezing issue for month. I tried different roms and the problem was always there. So i dont think its just a róm error.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowCodeGaming:
Try stock, unrooted, no a2sd, no s-off, no mods at all. And cut the amount of crap apps you have installed ;) I had 1100MB of apps installed on my old phone, now on my desire i have only 100MB of apps installed.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] facade:
I've tried so many different roms, and yet this freezing issue seems to keep repeating itself. I've attached a logcat of the latest freeze. Can anyone make any sense of it?

Running ICS beta 0.10.1 currently.

I'm starting to think that it maybe an SDcard issue. Currently using Sandisk 16gb Class 4.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robertsu:
I have in my hands many Desire phones who have this problem with reboot or lockup :( All of them are with SLCD and most of them are grey. They just overheating too much compared to black ones with Amoled. Man in service told me that there is 2 or 3 different boards for Desire and 3 different displays. First series of desire are best one and they are all with Amoled displays and most of them are black.

Some models can`t even finish a flashing because they just reboot. To finish flashing put some cold metal under them from fridgerate :) sound stupid but that helps... Phone working stable until is cold, after that random reboots again :(

I bought mine from guy in UK with UK charger when they starting to selling there on beggining. I personally don`t have any single lock up since than, except one lockup when phone was on sun and charging + gps + wifi on and OC to ~1200 mhz at performance mode. Guess that was too much. :)

I`m running moded Oxygen version from Roalex COS 17.04.2012. (update-oxygen_cos-17042012.zip + update) Best ROM ever for desire if you ask me, with ext3 1 GB enabled and installed 241 aplications only some are system apps!!! Don`t move ANY app to SD !! and it`s not DATA2SD !!! Use Autorun Manager to disable all useless startup apps and you will have 200-240 RAM free after all that apps are installed. Got FB, viber, WhatsApp and some others apps running all time in background. And you don`t need ANY task killer or something similar.

I even try ICS 10.01 and that working very nice finally, no lockups or reboot in 2 days, just a little too much battery drain for now :( Waiting for some fixed release.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Abaszp:
Well dont know about the logcat, but my advise would be to higher the UV levels in deamon tools (if your kernle supports UV) especially on he low cpu freqs. my UV settings starts with 248mhz is 975 mV and goes up till 1275 mV at 988 mhz. Try not to go over 988 with the Cpu freq as for a test and if there arent any freez go higher. I did the same and my seems working now for 5 days (fingers crossed :D)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hypnox99:
Still no crashes for 3 days after changing the sd card. I think it did the trick, I'm so glad now it appears to be fixed.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] facade:
I found a possible solution for the freezing from the sticky thread for troubleshooting your desire.

Dial *#*#4636#*#*

and set GSM only or CDMA only in settings. I'm currently using CDMA only, and stable so far. Haven't had any freezing. *fingers crossed*
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremypps:
coming from runnymede aio rom, with a samsung 16gb class 6 sd card.

tried changing from wcdma to gsm, tried putting a paper clip above the sim, tried changing UV values, no luck.

yesterday i changed rom, runny 6.1.1 and changed sd card as well, adata 8gb class 6.

reinstalled everything and guess what ? this morning phone froze again.

i think this phone sucks, last try would be changing radio but i still have to understand how to do it well, since i've read it could brick the phone (well, at this point wouldn't be so bad, i could throw it out of the window with no remorse).

if i change phone part i'll post the behaviour, cheers.

edit: i changed phone, from 5.11.05.27 to 5.14.05.17, i'll try a couple of days and see what happens.

for all noobs like me: phone parts are here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=687464

you can find a tool and instructions here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1193915

i'll let you know
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowCodeGaming:
People the problem is the battery. If i put my Nexus One battery (they are identical) in it, it has freezes and crashes etc. If i use the original battery, no problems. Try purchasing a new original htc battery.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Abaszp:
herestsc Reagin

I use the original battery that came with the box. Never tried to use other batteies.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowCodeGaming:
buy a new one! Your old one is f*cked up!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vicne:
Bad experience too...

Hi, all,

Just wanted to share my experience (unsuccessful till now).

I had my Desire on stock 2.2 until 2 weeks ago and it was stable, with about 2 days of battery life (WiFi off, plane mode between 23:00 and 07:00).

I finally got fed up with the "low memory" warnings, and after discussing with a friend who happily runs a Runnymede AIO ROM, I decided to install it too, and bought a brand new Samsung 16Gb class 10 microSD for that purpose.

I first tried the AIO V6.0.4.3 "stable", but it started freezing multiple times a day (could not wake it up, had to remove the battery). After a few days, and before I could analyze the problem in detail, one freeze ended up in a boot loop. Even after letting it cool down then connecting it to mains, I could not get it out of the loop.

I decided to switch to AIO V6.1.1 (beta), which solved the boot loop but not the freezes.

I then found this thread (and others) and concluded there could be 4 main reasons for the freezes: UV, battery, memory card, and radio

1. I started with UV, and tried progressively raising the UV levels with Daemon Controller. I'm now at 50mV above default settings (default taken from that thread). It seems things have improved a bit, but it's still freezing once a day.

2. Battery. Once again, though it's not new, the battery was the original one (genuine HTC), and in good condition. Although, I now let it charge every night to rule that cause out, but it still freezes.

Btw, the battery levels indicated seem much too optimistic since the ROM change. For example, it still says 96% now (12:30) with wifi+bluetooth ON, while I disconnected it from charger at 07:30. I wiped the stats a few days ago when disconnecting it at 100%, but it didn't make a difference.

So I'm now left with two possibilities: memory card and radio.

I'm reluctant to flash the radio because it was working really great and (afaik) switching to Runnymede didn't change it.

I might try to buy another microSD (other brand, other class, other capacity) in the next few days and start all over again to see if things improve...

Best regards,

Vicne
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Abaszp:
Did you higher the OC level as well or you left it at 998?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vicne:
No, it's still limited between 384000-998400.

I also switched from a 'smartassV2' governor to 'ondemand', but still have freezes.

BTW, for the first time last night, it froze during the night while it was on charger, so I think I can definitely rule out the "bad battery" cause.

I just ordered a Sandisk 8GB Class 6 microSD. Crossing fingers...

Best regards,

Vicne
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowCodeGaming:
Faulty battery can still make problems while on the charger :p
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Abaszp:
Well this is interesting. Cince i use the gingercakes 0.9 kernel i havnt had one single freez. try to flash it, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1254272 i use the original UV settings and ondemand. Battery life is not great less than a day in average but i sacrefice that for normal useage :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremypps:
after trying:

- Runnymede rom and Runny rom

- 4 different radio

- 2 different batteries

- 2 different SD cards

- paper clip on sim

- changing UV values

i installed cyanogen last friday, no freezes.

i have to quote this one:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vicne:
Thanks for sharing your experience.

Although I don't believe Sense 3.5 can not run on a Desire, your conclusion that the stability problem is ROM-related makes sense of course. As I said, my Desire was rock stable on stock 2.2, so...

Can you tell me which version you installed ? Is it this one ?

I personnally don't really care about sense UI, but does that ROM have "unlimited memory" (ext4 partition on SD card) out of the box ?

Best regards,

Vicne
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lshiun:
freezes experience

I flashed new rom on my HTC desire a month ago. I experienced a lot of freezes on my newly installed runnymede aio. I tought its Rom problem and fully wipe the phone again and flashed runny rom 6.1.1, unfortunately the phone still freezes occasionally. Tried many ways like changing sd card, flashing all sorts of kernels, taped my sdcard and sim card and all fail to solve the issue.

After reading this thread and I noticed that the phone only freezes when 3G signal is poor. I changed my network mode to WCDMA only and my phone has not encountered any freeze since then.

Runny Rom 6.1.1,

Cm7r2, s-off,

SanDisk 16gb cls6 with 1.5g ext4.

Droidzone@#21,

32.44.00.32u_5.09.05.30_2
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremypps:
sorry if i answer after long time.

rom ver is 7.1.0, i don't think it has unlimited memory but there's a sort of app2sd that you can use, sorry but i'm really a noob.

i see ver 7.2.0 was released after i installed it.

i have almost every app i need installed and still 120mb of free memory left.

i know sense 3.5 can run (and pretty well) on this phone, but not in all conditions, i.e. poor 3g signal (btw, i also tried setting to wdcma only, gsm auto etc. etc.), so, for my situation, cyanogen is a good compromise.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vicne:
Seems to be solved

Hi, all,

Just wanted to report back on my good experience after changing the memory card. Thursday night, I made a backup, swapped cards, restored and restarted the phone (so it's exactly the same version as before) and it works flawlessly since then (more than 4.5days), while it froze once a day with the old card.

For reference, I'm now using a Sandisk 8GB class 6 microSD instead of the Samsung 16GB class 10.

I think the common factor to freezes is power peaks, and all methods that have worked can one way or another act upon that factor: changing the radio, reverting to an older HTC sense, using a less advanced memory card, switching to WCDMA when 3G signal is poor, and of course changing the UV or buying a new battery.

I had also noticed that my phone often froze when negociating bluetooth with my car kit, which also probably needed a power peak.

I don't want to count my chickens before they're hatched (just learned that idiom ;)), but it seems my Desire really runs happily now. I'm also impressed by the time my battery charge lasts. I can now run for more than 2 days and it still says 55% (!). I admit I'm not a phone addict, but I have WiFi and Bluetooth on all the time, except when Airplane mode is on between 23:00 and 07:00. In exactly the same conditions on stock Froyo, I was hardly reaching 2 days before it shut down. Probably the battery stats have been reset by the reinstalls, but anyway... And I'm still running with UVs *above* the default ones :-) !

Thank you all for your help and advices. Hope this will help others too.

Vicne

Runnymede AIO v6.1.1 S.E.

3.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27

Sandisk 8GB class 6 w/ 1GB ext4
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fabioaalves:
i have SensEVolutioN v3.0, 1gb ext4, the last radio, tested every sense 2.1 android 2.3 kernels, root, s-off

with Dane-Elec 8gb class 6 and original 4gb class 4 card works great/perfect!!! not 1 freeze

with kingston 8gb class 4 Freezes a lot !

with my new samsung 16gb class 4 freezes a lot!

really frustrating need more space......... :silly:

i also think it is related to voltage/energy variation

trying every trick to see if it works. more voltage, pressing the connector down for more connectivity,..... etc...

so far no luck...

will report latter.

sorry for the English
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vicne:
Seems Samsung 16GB are not the way to go (though a friend has one that works flawlessly in his Desire + Runnymede).

Not so easy to find fast non-Samsung 16GB memory cards.

There is a "Dane DA-3IN1C1016G-R Dane 16GB MicroSD C10 with 2 Adapters" on Amazon, maybe worth a try.

I will personally stick to my 8 GB, because I don't really need 16GB...

Best regards,

Vicne
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fabioaalves:
well the samsung class 6 16Gb, didn't work,

even with pressing the connector of the sim and sd, and putting a little paper behind...

Add enough, just both a new one s!!!!!!! bye bye DEsire!!!!!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vicne:
Yes, I know.

Neither did my Samsung class 10 16Gb.

That's a radical way to get rid of the problem indeed, if you can afford it :-)

Best regards,

Vicne
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmike0:
I also have freezing problem with my desire on poor signal, probably when changing from 3g to 2g. My current ROM is Alex V and Sunday in some poor signal area i had like 5 freezes in 2 hours. i have the latest radio installed. I think that i have to change my phone in order to get rid of this problem. If anyone has a solution to this problem please let me know.

Thank you
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nlooooo:
Which version of Alex rom are you using? I had that problem with cm7r2 a2sdx version, even when network was switched to WCDMA only. Try with int2sd version, I have no problems using it.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subtel:
thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmike0:
I have Alex int2sd version and yesterday in a mall i had 2 freezes in 30 min. Then i switched off mobile internet and for about 30 min i had no freeze.

The 3g signal was poor but the 2g signal was ok. I think that when the phone switch from 2g to 3g repeatedly sometime the OS is freezing.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] herr.winter:
Crash on Stock Rom

Hi, very interesting discussion.

After reading all 16 pages i decided to downgrade to the stock rom, then made an online update to 2.2.

Today i did a little test.

freshly formated sd card with only 1 fat 32 partition

Inside a moving car on the highway

WLAN off

Bluetooth off

Batery at over 50%, not charging

moving the installed apps to sd card -> continious wright acces to the card

And guess what happened!

the screen went off, the phone was not responding to the power key and i had to take out the batery.

It realy seems to be a power problem and as i still have 2 months of guaranty left i am going to send the phone in for repair/exchange.