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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
It's only $10. He doesn't have much to lose. If he says they work the same, then that's a really good deal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
Care to explain why?

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Thanks, I did not know this. I was hoping that we can have technical way to measure or check from the phone, the battery capacity. Because comparing via usage time / battery life is very difficult.

My Nexus S is on charger now, I read 3827mV at 2% ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
It's cheap for what it is, but think about it, can you really get three original batteries for that price, do you really want me to prove those are fakes.

in china shenzhen, i see the people sticking the actual labels on these batteries, if you want, the next time i go to china, sometime end of this month or beginning of feb, i'll bring back a few of these stickers, and the batteries if you want.

these stickers are produced in thousands.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Buddy Revell:
If the NFC does work, then it's a pretty good deal, even if it isn't genuine Samsung. FYI I don't think he claims they are genuine on his ebay page anywhere.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
I think everyone is getting mixed up, its only a antenna in the battery, it's very easy to put one in, the actual chip is in the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rlsroufe:
I see your point. I guess testing nfc will be the ultimate test.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sblantipodi:
You need to open the battery to see the difference.

Please don't be stupid (I'm not saying that you are stupid) but please open your mind.

How do you think to get three genuine battery with a charger for $10? :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rlsroufe:
If they look like stock batteries (they even come in the same packaging as the stock battery), act and work like stock batteries, and according to you would have to open them up to tell the difference, then what exactly is your point? If there is a difference it obviously doesn't matter.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ljwnow:
Although the labels are fake, but I guess you know that all the cores of the batteries are made in China. Because the battery industry is so freaking pollutant. And it is not that high tech. I think the batteries won't be so different from the stock ones. They may even have the same cores as the genuine ones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
most of the cells are very similar, official one's needs to be tested before it goes on sale, most cells are made in korea, china and japan, with korea and japan being known for offering the best cells to manuacturer who uses cells in their equipment.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
What fake battery are you guys talking about?

Is it the one from gmarket? And or shimshop?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
The ones that this one particular person posted that he paid $10-15 and it came with 3 batteries and a wall charger.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21143210&postcount=339 that post.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
Ah, that one, thats obviously fake. You cant get those with that price.

Be careful that wont damage your device.

I still remember in the past, people selling cheap sd card, thought it has 8 or 16gb, but the actual size is very less than that.

If it does not make sense, most probably there is something wrong ...

Just be careful ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ericc191:
comment removed

EDIT: done deal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xl DIGITAL lx:
Sent you a PM
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
In other news (getting back onto topic), a new dispatch date is now made. Feb 14, 2012 later than the previous dispatch date.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sam...Accessories&hash=item1c222d0cea#ht_5006wt_905

(Need to buy backcover separately) Battery Only: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sam...Accessories&hash=item19cc0f9a0a#ht_4729wt_905
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] InternationalNexusFan:
They also sell the cover and battery as a bundle: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Samsung-Google-Galaxy-Nexus-GT-I9250-Extended-2000mah-Battery-Case-Cover-/120832461308?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item1c222d09fc#ht_5006wt_905.

If you order it now, you will get it in March 2012.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Yep, they surely do. I was looking at the standalones the backcover is whats causing the delay. They're able to produce enough batteries but it's a whole another story for the backcovers
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
if you haven't got the extended battery cover, you need the bundled package.

if you cannot wait, get it from gmarket, you will need to register first, the price will set you around USD 46 to the US, try your luck with the coupons for upto 12% off.

http://english.gmarket.co.kr/challe..._cd=EN&pos_class_cd=90000001&pos_class_kind=T

just the cover

http://english.gmarket.co.kr/challe...lass_kind=T&keyword_order=m420s+battery+cover
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] swiftden:
Ordered mine from Gmarket on Jan 6, 2012. Got it today Jan 10, 2012. They ship really fast.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] predation:
okay that is it... i'm contacting Shimshop today.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AdamHart612:
Battery covers aren't interchangeable between the two models, different tab placement.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stevo101:
i emailed one of the korean peeps on ebay selling the 2000 mah battery from samsung for the gsm phones and he said the backs arent included because thats how samsung is doing it for whatever reason, he said maybe try it with the extended back of the lte but it sounds like thats a no go ether! so just will have to wait i guess kinda sucks! google what a mess why not sell the gsm phone from there own website with the extras! i wonder about google sometimes!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NPS_CA:
GSM Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery in Korea

Check this out:

http://smartdevice.kr/172

I see these guys have it:

http://www.11st.co.kr/product/Selle...Detail&prdNo=310518613&trTypeCd=11&trCtgrNo=0

Part # is EB-L1F2KVK In theory the non Korean Part # should be EB-L1F2KVU - but I don't see this anywhere

NOTE the K on the end of the battery part # shows this is a Korea only part on Samsung's part system

I'm trying to see if someone in our Korea office can get this and a cover as a spare part from Samsung spares.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] itsjusttim:
^ good find! Lets hope this gives us some answers
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jhuynh:
Yeah I just heard back from the guy I PM'd and he said the same thing as above. Nowhere to buy the back cover. He sent me a different link to the battery. It looks like it's a different website but uses the exact same store template

http://item.gmarket.co.kr/detailvie...ord_seqno=689749987&search_keyword=EB-L1F2KVK

It looks to be cheaper to buy direct from these sites than to order from ebay since they ship worldwide(according to google translate). If only we could only find the battery covers now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dipson626:
Hey, jhuynh asked me to post what I shared here. Here's a picture of the battery comparison:

I took a few quick shots with the intent of taking some better ones later, but what can I say, I'm lazy. (I didn't put the cover on properly either - I was in a rush):

Full comparison

Close up

I love how light and thin it is with the 1750, but the 2000 gives me much more power and really, it doesn't bulge at all as you can see. It just fills in that bit of curve at the bottom beautifully.

As jhuynh said, I sent that link for the battery. 11st and Gmarket usually have same/similar things and deals. I prefer Gmarket (it also has an English site -- says English in the top right corner). I haven't found anyone selling a back cover but I'm sure it will come in time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Buddy Revell:
Cool comparison. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MNX1024:
Thanks for the pictures. Makes me want to buy the battery more and more. Too bad no covers are on sale yet.

Does anyone knows if the battery charger fits the extended battery?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Buddy Revell:
I would love to see a battery rundown test between the standard and extended batteries. I wonder how much difference it makes on the GSM GN.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bilhouse:
Hopefully when Samsung announce the European extended battery it is 2100mah. The more juice the better!

The Verizon one was the same so you never know. But I will be happy with getting the 2000mah battery and back cover now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dipson626:
I don't have much in terms of a detailed rundown, but I can try to do one soon. In the mean time, here's just two screen shots comparing the 1750 and 2000:

1750 mAh, Screen @ 50% brightness, normal use

2000 mAh, Screen @ 50% brightness, normal use

With it being a new toy and all, I've playing with it a good bit so normal use for me entails: some phone calls, messages, light web browsing, and Google Music at times. On both you can see SEVERE drops at the end. Those were intentional as I was trying to fully discharge the batteries before recharging, so they could have lasted a bit longer I'd say.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wonshikee:
Assuming both batteries get the rated mah, wouldn't it just be basic math to figure out?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dipson626:
Here's what they say on Samsung's website for the phone (http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SHW-M420STSSC-spec :

standard / extended

WCDMA Mode

Talk Time - 460 min / 520 min

Standby - 210 hours / 240 hours

GSM Mode

Talk Time - 1090 min / 1240 min

Standby - 270 hours / 300 hours

연속통화시간

표준형(약 460분), 대용량(약 520분)

연속대기시간

WCDMA모드 표준형 : 약 210시간 (DRX 6 기준), 약 240시간 (DRX 7 기준) 대용량 : 약 240시간(DRX6 기준), 280시간(DRX7 기준)

연속통화시간(GSM모드)

표준형(약 1090분), 대용량(약 1240분)

연속대기시간(GSM모드)

표준형(약 270시간), 대용량(약 300시간)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ock:
@dipson626 Any chance you have the screen on times? Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dipson626:
I didn't think to take note of that. Sorry. I'll try to remember next time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NPS_CA:
We're hunting in our Korea office for the spares part number for the back on the extended battery and going to see if can be ordered as a Samsung spare part. Stay tuned; likely won't hear anything till next week.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brian85:
Where are you guys getting the 2000mah batteries (directed toward the guy who posted screen shots)?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jhuynh:
Koreans got the battery and cover for free with the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ashen Victor:
Extended battery covers are available on eBay through shimshop. Either by themselves ($17 and change) or with the extended battery in a combo ($50).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Enhanced:
Your right, it's all listed here:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...im+shop&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

With 99.7% positive feedback this seems legit. Anyone pull the trigger yet?

Specifically:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sam...Accessories&hash=item1c222d0cea#ht_3920wt_905

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sam...asesPouches&hash=item19cc0fdb94#ht_3920wt_905

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sam...Accessories&hash=item1c222d09fc#ht_3920wt_905
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
I thought you already received yours.:p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
Keep in mind of his location. He's in the Philippines, it'll take a lot longer for the battery to arrive in the States.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
shimshop is in korea.

sorry i understand now, I had mine from gmarket korea to hong kong, it took 2 days.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zephiK:
I know, South Korea to be specific. I was just saying that so other people wouldn't be misinformed if they're ordering from North America.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
ordering to uk isn't a good idea, the customs holds the item for a few weeks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] predation:
i know shimshop is in south korea.

but damn....

i ordered a tpu case from china and that got here in cali 7 days flat!

going on ems tracking with options to USPS site i get:

"Delivery status information is not available for your item via this web site. A return receipt after mailing may be available through your local Post Office."
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
so what tpu did you get from china for the gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] predation:
the nillkin one.

i don't even use it after i got my BSE full body skin. lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
how much did it cost you for the case, i've seen it in china for USD 1.60 from the nillkin shop.

anyways are you gonna cancel the order from shimshop now.

:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] predation:
no. no cancel.

i'll wait until 40 days from payment through paypal.

at that point i can initiate refund.

eh. it was like $10 shipped for the nillkin case.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
same with me, ordered a mercury tpu from ebay at USD 10, cost me only USD 2.60 each from china, so I bought another 6.:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -Phazenine-:
After sifting through the fake batteries on ebay searching for a Anker battery, without finding one. I settled for two 1900 mah batteries & a charging dock for $13. They just arrived and I haven't got a chance to test them out yet
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tb5...:
from where did you get the batteries

and post a pic of the dock if you can, man

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EVIL JIMMY:
Sounds a lot like these batteries I picked up of eBay for £10!

Forum link
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
Just picked up a original 1750mAh battery for HKD 99 (USD12.70), and before anyone starts to say it's fake, don't try it.

This battery is on a special offer from a authorised dealer chain store in hong kong and can only be purchased at the special price when you buy the phone, although i've had my phone before then, i know the store very well, so I was able to have it at the special price.

Although i may not use this battery, just got it in case i need it.

I already have the stock 1750mAh+extended 2000mAh and a 7800mAh external power pack on it's way.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sblantipodi:
:O

where did you get it?

I mean the genine 1750 battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
if you're after a link through online order, they dont have one, it's a local chain store called wilson communication, people in hong kong knows this place.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsekh501:
The extended battery is awesome. Under rather heavy use, I still have around 15% after dinner. And my phone lasted 30+ hours under moderate use. Can't believe how 250mah makes so much difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
for hong kong residents only.

http://hk.f1.page.auctions.yahoo.com/hk/auction/b20716961?u=sungcharming
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] red 90:
2000mah battery and cover

Just wondering what everyone with the 2000mah battery and extended cover is using foe a case.

It would be good to get a list of compatible cases for this setup.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
if you read through the forum, you'll get your answer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MisterEdF:
Well, according to all electronic formulas & mathematical "laws" at most it can last 17% longer then the 1750mah version

if it was used in an absolutely IDENTICAL

fashion. Anything more or less than that would be due to different usage patterns.

It crazy how people (

not you specifically

, but users in general) who add 17% more capacity to their device come up with such ridiculous and impossible increases in length of use when the ONLY reason for it would be change in usage pattern or different apps running or not. One cannot go from, for example, 12 hours of use to 18 hours of use (50% increase) with a 17% increase in battery CAPACITY

with everything else being the same

. It's physically not possible.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] InternationalNexusFan:
Few things in life are linear. It's crazy how people (not you specifically, but user in general) assume what they believe to know is right.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FastMhz:
Stock battery I was out in 14 hrs.

Extended I'm up to around 18-19 hrs.

Phone is stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MisterEdF:
Well, if that is wrong please clarify how one can get (for example) 50% more use from 25% more capacity, or 30% more use from 15% more capacity

assuming everything else remains exactly the same

? I'd truly like to learn (or unlearn actually).

It's would be like having a quart of milk, then buying second quart and saying the 2 together will fill up a gallon jug if you continue pouring even when the 2 bottles are empty.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] red 90:
Ya in 400 post there was one mention of the nillkin tpu case. I've read through the threads. What I was asking was for users to post what cases they are using with the extended battery. I wasn't asking which one case will work.

But thanks for your post, it was helpful!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
if you simply just look through the accessories section for gnex, you will see plenty of cases that people are using, many have stated that, and have talked about using them with extened battery and cover.

or a bit search will get what you want.

I've started a thread also on the mercury tpu case, also mentioning that i'm using the extended battery and cover.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] red 90:
Wouldn't it be a bit more helpful if a list was started for gsm specific cases with the extended battery? If you actually search, there are thousands of threads, which gets mixed with the lte versions of the extended battery. Honestly, I wouldn't want people to have to read through thousands of threads to sort out which one works or not. That's why I suggested a list be made. As well, the majority of this thread is about the gsm extended battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Talos77:
Received my extended battery from gmarket two days ago. Fits perfect in my S-Line TPG Gel case.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
Top of the galaxy nexus accessories section, there is already a thread, even if you start a new thread, people will just fill them up with junk.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellesshoo:
I'm not going to say the extended battery will result in a larger than 14% increase but you are over simplifying a complex thing.

#1. Like a previous poster has stated, things are not at all linear in the battery world.

#2. The controller chip in the stock battery doesn't even use mA to measure current charge levels so using it as a basis for your assumptions would be looking in the wrong places.

#3. The controller chip is using mV to calibrate & calculate, which if you plot from full to empty is very obviously not linear.

#4. Any change in how you program the controller's empty voltage will affect uptime, even on batteries with identical cells. At the stock empty voltage it isn't even dropping very fast so one could almost certainly use a lower empty voltage to increase up time. The stock battery value seems pretty conservative.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
things aren't looking good for lowering empty voltage.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] siewsphone:
Tried ordering the battery and cover from GMARKET but keep getting 709 error after payment, using IE9, anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
try using a different browser.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ellesshoo:
for the stock OEM battery it looks that way.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fugisan:
Hey just wondering if anyone has the official mesh case for the GSM version and this extended battery and whether they work together?

The case im refering to is; http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-SAM..._MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item2317d80008

and xda;http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1417153

Ive posted a Q in the case thread too :)

Thanks all would be an awesome help as my battery life suuuucks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kms108:
to be honest, it doesn't look like a oem samsung product, and looking at it the extended battery wont fit.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Golomidov:
Why are you even talking about mA? Battery capacity is measured wih mA*h which is not mA, as you can guess, but electric charge.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MisterEdF:
I am referring strictly to BATTERY CAPACITY and not how it is affected by something a device will do to screw it up. A 1000mah (milliamp

PER HOUR

) CAPACITY battery under controlled testing conditions should allow 1000ma drain for 1 hour or a 500ma drain for 2 hours and so on. If you jump from 1000mah to 1200mah CAPACITY battery it should (under controlled testing conditions) give you 20% more use. You can't get 50% more use from 20% more capacity unless something else is going on.

Other things will affect it of course but the bottom line is if you increase your battery capacity by 20% you will get at most 20% more "use" from the battery and not 50%. If ones charger or device is not charging or discharging properly that is another issue but that increase in battery capacity is pretty much linear.

The only way to test a battery is out of the device and under controlled conditions running it through multiple charge discharge cycles. This has been done already by someone here on XDA a couple years ago (the thread is still here somewhere) and what he found was most of the OEM batteries he tested were up to or exceeded specs and virtually all of the "cheap Chinese eBay batteries" (and also some of the "major" third party providers "extended" battery specs) were so far off to almost call them a rip-off.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kekni:
Sorry just have to correct you there mAH stands for milli amp hours. There is no / , so it is not as you say 1000 milli amps PER hour
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] maniac779:
Extended Barry for GN

I just spoke to a rep at htcpedia.com yesterday as I needed to set up a return for the LTE GN battery I bought without realizing they aren't the same as the HSPA version and he said they expect to have them in stock next week.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EddyOS:
It is OEM, it's the same type as the one they released for the Galaxy S II
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] itsjusttim:
No, batteries are different sizes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ksc6000:
The battery charger, does the light on it always stay red or does it turn green or another color when it's charged? Has anyone had any damage to their battery by using this charger?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ryandi:
I just received my Extended battery cover combo today (ordered from Gmarket, seller is earmaket for $30 shipped).

Why do I have the strangest feeling that the battery door isn't genuine? It doesn't seem to be as well made as the original battery door, the textures aren't as deep and thus provides worse grip. Its look blends better with the rest of the body though (less glossy than the original). There's also a small space just under the camera, I'm glad it isn't creaky. Can anybody confirm the same thing I'm experiencing?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] predation:
You should be fine. How big is the gap? Photo would help so we can compare. I got mine from shimshop.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
i got mine from shimshop. what you're experiencing is what i have. i'm more than happy with mine. phone feels a lot better with the contour. did not expect that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hartford:
I got mine a week ago and, considering all that this phone can do, I feel that Samsung should have just included this battery as standard from the get-go. Better battery life and hardly any difference in weight or size. I can only conclude that, just like any other company looking to make a profit, they were counting on tons of extended battery sales.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PTzero:
The LED is red when charging, green when full and off when there's no battery in it. I have the same type of charger from Samsung for my Nexus S and have used it for a year with no ill effect to the battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EVIL JIMMY:
Video Reviews!

Hey guys,

Got some video reviews here! (not sure if I've posted them in this thread :S)

Official extended battery from shimshop!

[YOUTUBE]g6yron-QNPs[/YOUTUBE]

1900 mAh cheap eBay batteries!

[YOUTUBE]NgHA9A6CxwM[/YOUTUBE]

3,800 mAh ebay extended battery!

[YOUTUBE]MEXxoXr0yB4[/YOUTUBE]
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HideYoKids:
Just got the 2000mah battery with cover. Can't comment on capacity but everyone is right, it feels sooooo much better!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsekh501:
Not really. This extended battery is not officially available outside Korea yet. And in Korea, the Nexus comes with both batteries and covers as standard. This is also the reason why all the sellers are from Korea and the batteries don't come in retail package.