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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oman0123:
That is probably what I saw. I apologize for jumping the gun. In my mind I read expansys-usa and June 6th and Car dock and probably just put them all together and came up with that as being LTE. Oops.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dowenprs:
Question for you guys who already have the dock. How does the dock handle a phone call when you have it hooked up to your stereo?

Thanks

Dan
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] litrekid:
Does anyone think the incompatibility has to do with the software? Just like the desk dock was not lte compatible due to software. The lte version fit in the dock with extended battery just fine and I am willing to bet the car dock will be the same way.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
It has already been confirmed that the lte nexus has to be held down firmly in desk dock and once you let go it doesn't make contact with pogo pins. The car dock is up in the air still, but I think it will.

...of the people, by the people, for the people...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] litrekid:
Not according to the video kellen made on droid-life. It goes in effortlessly and never mentions any problems.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dmbfan13:
Do you have a link by chance? Just curious
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] litrekid:
Just so happens i do. Its down the list under accessories i believe.

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/1...extended-batteries-day-one-thoughts-and-more/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Accord281:
That is either the GSM phone going into the GSM dock or the LTE phone going into the LTE dock.

There are 2 versions of the desk dock. The LTE one popped up on Samsung's site in mid-February but was yanked after a few days.

Expansys tried putting the LTE gnex into the GSM desk dock but it didn't fit properly. But that is because the dock goes over the front of the phone slightly. So thickness is more of an issue with that dock than with the car dock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tct08:
http://www.indiegogo.com/3-pin-dock

This project also looks interesting. I'd be willing to pay for a pre-assembled kit if these GSM docks don't end up working with the LTE phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] quick_:
Can't seem to find the answer to this, or perhaps I just don't believe the answer....

Does the GSM car dock, feed audio through the pogo pins to the line out on the dock??

Or is this like the Nexus One dock where it triggers Bluetooth audio connection to the dock, and and then the dock outputs to line out on the dock.

I'm hoping for the latter, cause audio via bluetooth sucks! I've never heard of the pogo pins doing anything other than charging and triggering "Dock Mode" on the phone....

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mehrsau:
Yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] quick_:
Awesome, thank God.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ianbirtwistle:
To answer a few more questions..

(Yes this is with the Galaxy Nexus GSM)

- It must also allow the volume control to wake the phone?

Yes, volume buttons or power buttons wake the phone.

- Can I assume in car mode it does not time out the screen while plugged in?

It appears to stay on the whole time, though admittedly I've not done a long drive yet but it's never 'timed out' yet.

- How does the dock handle a phone call when you have it hooked up to your stereo.

Very well, although my phone calls are via bluetooth so I don't think the phone mic is utilised anyway.

Regarding the tight fit, after a few days use it's loosened out much more. Still a good fit but now pops out much easier!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Just received an email from expansys usa that my car dock shipped today via some kind of fedx (can't tell just yet).

On the desk dock they called before it was to ship to verify if I still wanted it. This time they just shipped it. Not a problem since they emailed me last week to advise me that it was arriving. A different procedure but IMO still first class. Excellent vendor.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
I just got the email as well. Hope to get it early next week!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Monkoo:
Good to see some LTE owners risking it, let us know how it works!

Been waiting since launch for this but don't want to through my money away.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Mine shipped today but I didn't get an email. My order status just says its been shipped already.

...of the people, by the people, for the people...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dmbfan13:
Same with mine! Status says "Shipped"! However, I didn't get an email either. Hoping to get tracking info soon!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spovat:
did you get a tracking number?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patruns:
Just saw mine shipped too as the charge went through. Great! And I only ordered it on 5/19. Woo hoo!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
I did, yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wade-0:
Actually no, it doesn't. It sounds pretty great streaming A2DP to my Clarion CX501 head unit. Maybe it's your audio setup?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
Could be the Bluetooth orbdac in the Bluetooth. My Sony mw600 is awesome and works great long distances. All my other Bluetooth setups sound horrible in comparison.

...of the people, by the people, for the people...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] frigidazzi:
So jealous! I ordered mine on 5/16 with no changes to status! ARG
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dmbfan13:
Did you get an estimated delivery date?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Yup: Estimated delivery May 28, 2012 by 12:00 PM
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Yes, I got one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dmbfan13:
Hope to get one soon! The status of the order says shipped...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Lots of happy people out there. Is everyone aware that if you are gsm this isn't going to work very well at all if you aren't on 4.0.4?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xenokira:
Forgive my ignorance, but would any GSM users still be using an older version? I thought they got the official push long ago and I'm sure most custom ROMs are 4.0.4 now as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
None of the variants to my knowledge got it which is what expansys and negri were selling. You would have to flash those phones.

Edit: and if you flash 4.0.4 be prepared to possibly flash back. Some 4.0.4 experiences have not been positive and its very random.

Edit: I'm on 4.0.2. The dock would be my only reason to flash 4.0.4 Otherwise I'd be content to wait for a stable update.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WillyWonka23:
Odd, I ordered the car dock back in January and they only emailed me asking to confirm my shipping method today. My shipping method was in the order...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mad_vtak:
same :(

Edit: just called and got everything they wanted. Shipped out already. SHWING
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChrisJ:
Speaking personally, 4.0.4 works like a charms on my gsm here in the UK. By far the best official release.

The dock works fine with it,
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WillyWonka23:
Did you call them or did they call you?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mad_vtak:
i called them, maybe 2-3 min on hold. Told them what kind of shipping i want. gave me my total and i got another email saying it shipped.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
The only non-yakju/non-takju build that has been updated is yakjuzs.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Thats good info since that's my variant. Is the update available to flash?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20843237&postcount=1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] daverab:
For those curious, the GSM extended battery WORKS with the car dock.

Specifically this item off of Mobile Fun UK:

ecs-k1f2begstd-p33499

The screen sticks out maybe 1mm from the front edge of the dock, but that may be normal. Pogo pins and buttons line up correctly. As others have mentioned, it's a super tight fit even with the normal battery.

As for Expansys USA...don't bother with them. Like others I was on a pre-order. I received a pre-order shipping email asking for the method. I answered via phone and let them know, and when stock came in, nothing. Checked order status and was stuck in "Waiting for stock" after the first batch of docks came in and went out. Turned around and ordered from Mobil Fun UK on Wednesday evening EST, and got the dock in today (2 day turnaround if that). I did use DHL express shipping for the extra $10 or so, but it was worth it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
I'm not surprised. No need for others to post your success. Most users won't have issues with data connectivity on 4.0.4 but many will have problems. As I mentioned, its a very random problem. I believe its the reason most of the variants have yet to get 4.0.4.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Treggs:
Any chance people could post some pics showing this thing in use? I have a GSM with extended battery and I have just ordered one. I also have a desk dock and I'm curious if the plugs are the same? i.e. USB is power only and audio is audio line out (both digital and analog)? Can the audio port be used for mic in instead of audio out? as I use bluetooth for audio to my hands free.

Also what program starts when you put it in the dock? The desktop one starts the clock but I assume the car dock starts carhome? (or what the big icons car mode thing is called)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zackpack:
me too!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SNNTEC:
i believe this has been officially released now
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] canadiancow:
Is http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-google-galaxy-nexus-vehicle-mount-225505/ the right one? The image shows the three pogo pins, but the model number shows as ECS-K1F2BEG rather than ECS-K1F2BEGSTD.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
That's the one I ordered. I'll get it tomorrow, so I will let you know.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cheddaface:
Think this will fit sprints??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Meep70:
On the site it specifically says "WARNING: Product NOT compatible with VERIZON edition ’Galaxy NEXUS i515"

Sprint sells a Galaxy NEXUS i515, so we can logically conclude that this will not work (at least not without mods :D).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] najaboy:
Sprint does not sell the i515. It is exclusive to Verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Accord281:
Have you not read any of this thread? The Verizon version fits in the dock, just a little tightly. So yes it is compatible.

Spring sells a nexus with the exact same dimensions as the Verizon version, so we can logically conclude that it will work. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oman0123:
Its not the same dimensions. Ours is a .05 mm more thick. And the GSM fits VERY tightly I've read. I have the lte nexus I'm waiting anxiously for those Verizon users who ordered it to report back. I really feel its 50/50 for us
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] najaboy:
Before chastising someone for not reading, you may wish to do so as well. No one has yet been able to verify that the i515 fits in the vehicle dock because it only within the past few days became available for order. As such, no one with an LTE handset has the dock in hand yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreadmador:
Or at least no one with an LTE handset with the dock in hand has yet posted the results of their testing, something that many of us are attentively keeping an eye out for.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mog386:
Before chastising someone for not reading, you may wish to do so as well. As it has already been mentioned previously in this thread that a member of the expansys team has tested the VZW LTE handset and confirmed on the expansys message boards that it does fit albeit very very tightly. He has also further confirmed that the pogo pins do line up and they charge however they have been unable to verify that audio out works due to the fact that they cannot seem to update their handset to 4.04.

This seems to be what the previous person was referring to when they chastised the other person.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boynamedstacy:
What does 4.0.4 have to do with audio out? Should work regardless of the build. Anyway, shouldn't Expansys be the last people not able to figure out how to update? Awkward

Sent from my Rascream/Trinity powered GNEX
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dreadmador:
This is what's keeping me skeptical about Expansys's testing. I'm not sure why anyone would have any difficulty upgrading to 4.04 given the multitude of ROMs available with that version of Android. I'd like independent confirmation, including results of the audio output testing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wej1976:
OK here's my two pennies worth.

Official Dock + GNexus (UK GSM version) = A very tight fit

it's actually pretty hard to get out once it's inserted requiring a fair ammount of force on the phone around the area of the camera just to undock the phone. I haven't yet tried any audio out via the 3.5mm jack as my car stereo doesn't have a line in. I'll plug some headphones in later on and report back (I know this of no use to people with the verizon version)

Knowing that the Verizon version of the phone is deeper in body but not in length or width I cant see why they didn't build it to officially fit both.

I bought it from epansys uk btw. I dare say that if they reckon it fits the LTE version then they should take it back if it doesn't

Will
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] najaboy:
May want to double check that because it seems you're confusing multiple threads on their site. The only confirmation of a snug fit was that of the GSM Nexus in the GSM dock, which was posted by a customer. eX-EC has not posted any confirmations.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] najaboy:
Builds prior to 4.04 lack the functionality. A for not being able to upgrade, the wifi on their test unit kept disconnecting during the upgrade which was a showstopper for them, given they're in Europe.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mog386:
Damn new user restrictions, can't post a link to XDA forums :(

it's a thread on their forums, entitled "Nexus accessories on hold because of software issue" page 5, post #88

it reads:

"Quick update: the Verizon Nexus i515 fits... but its a

VERY TIGHT

fit.

One should be careful not to damage the power and volume buttons when trying to put the phone in or remove it.

Now we are trying to figure if the 3 pogo-pins line up correctly with the dock: at least I can confirm the 'charging' icon appeared when I plugged it in my car's cig-lighter.

Regarding the audio line-out I cannot confirm yet, since we still couldn't manage to update the Verizon Nexus i515 we have here from Android 4.0.2 to 4.04 (wich seems to be compulsory if we want to have the 'dock mode' and audio-out to work."

It was posted by eX-EC.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] canadiancow:
I don't believe that. The dock is simply a Bluetooth device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Matridom:
Having reverse engineered (with some help) the phone to dock signalling, I can assure you that it is NOT using bluetooth. The middle pin is used for communications between the dock and phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Accord281:
No it's not. Audio runs through the pins. Roms prior to 4.0.3 had this functionality broken in them. It has been confirmed multiple times that the nexus docks do not have Bluetooth.

Mine arrives this week. Once I get it I will take a video of it. I have the setup in my car ready to go for this dock. I am eagerly awaiting it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] litrekid:
It seems to me that GSM owners already say that the dock is a very tight fit so what is so different about what ex-ec has posted about the lte version. The dock holds the phone around the outside of the phone right and correct me if I'm wrong but that dimension is no different.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Well, I just received my dock from Expansys. Superfast delivery. This is my second order from Expansys, and I have to say that the service has been great.

Now, on to the dock. I'll echo the other users' comments: it is a VERY tight fit with the GSM model and the extended (2000 mAh) battery, but it does fit. Not sure that having the bigger battery makes a difference though, as it is not really the thickness that makes it a tight fit -- it is the length and (primarily) the width.

It is EXTREMELY difficult to remove (and to a lesser degree, insert) the phone from the dock. I haven't tried it mounted yet, but I know that it will be impossible to remove the phone from the dock with one hand, without pulling the dock off the windshield.

All in, when compared to the Nexus One dock, I am thoroughly disappointed.

After having received it and seeing how difficult it is to remove the phone, I think I would probably be better of with a generic one.

I have Google's Car Home installed, so when I insert the phone, the Car Home app starts automatically.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
So after all is said, it turns out to be not how well a non-gsm phone fits into the gsm dock but how well the gsm phone fits (not) into its own native dock.

That is truly a sad ending to this story. I'm wondering if I'll even open mine when it arrives tomorrow. I guess I'll need to check the expansys return policy.

Guess there is always the dremel :eek:

LOL
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] litrekid:
Well I have high hopes. Just went ahead and ordered one. There is a previous post on here that states the dock takes time to break in and eventually the phone is easier to put in and remove.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
What about the warnings not to break the buttons putting it in and out? Hey I love my GN and fortunately I got a very good one but the dock thing has been a debacle from the start. Truly the product manager should be dusting off his resume.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] litrekid:
Well judging by enfrants review I don't see how it could be any tighter a fit then what he describes. I have extras anyway
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Just pull another GN out of the stable?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] litrekid:
I bought an extra housing a while back after dropping my phone so I still have the extra buttons from that
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wej1976:
As it happens once the dock is mounted to the windscreen it is actually easier to remove. Am hoping that given some time it'll loosen up slightly. Where can we get Google's car home app from for ics?

Overlooking the tight fit it seems well built and hasn't yet fallen of the screen which given the current temps here in the uk I'm surprised at. I'd still give it a tentative thumbs up with smile if it ever "beds" in

Will
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Any concerns about button damage due to extra tight fit?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] @rbiter:
I think car app is already included. I was playing with my sisters nexus on .2 before i installed a clean .4 yakju image and the car app came up on my desk dock once. Wasnt able to replicate it but the little i messed with it it seemed fully functional.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
Yeah, I tried it mounted on the windshield. Still difficult to take out, and impossible with one hand.

I'll post Google's Car Home and Car Dock a little later. (I'm pretty sure it didn't come with the ROM, and I don't think there is an ICS version, but the older ones work fine.)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cheddaface:
delete wrong thread
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xxprodigyxx11:
The stock no pogo Verizon version is the same way when it comes to the snugness. Been using it for 4 months now. You get used to it. Also I love how people in this thread state something to be 100 percent correct when they're actually dead wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
The only thing I'm 100% sure of is that no one in this thread claimed to be 100% correct on anything.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DrZEUS:
And this is why I ended up going with the Brodit dock and decided to ditch the Samsung car dock. All I actually care for is power and a holder anyway....phone syncs up via BT to my stereo anyway.

The Brodit can be mounted without a swivel or arm which means if you are using a bracket type install (ie. Panavise), it's a cleaner fit/install since the holder does not stick out as far and get in the way of your front passenger's knees (mounted to the right of the center console just to the right of the stereo).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oman0123:
How much is this? I have Aux in my stereo so I can use that. I'm not sure how the music works with the pogos anyway I just have a stereo with an aux and USB. Does it Fit with lte nexus?

How quickly does it charge the phone?

I just wish Samsung/Verizon would stop being such douche-canoes and release accessories on time or at all. Well for us Verizon slaves that is
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] boynamedstacy:
Just read the thread man.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Treggs:
Can anyone answer my questions?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wej1976:
With regards to what starts when the phone is docked the answer is nothing. I've tried this with my own phone running AOKP B37 and a friends stock 4.04. Both phones know they are docked to a car dock as a little steering wheel icon appears in the notification area but thats all that happens (unless I'm missing a trick).

I've installed this Car Dock Home v3 which is reasonable if a little messy to get configured. Cant complain for free.

Will
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
I've attached Google's Car Home and Car Dock applications. Once you install these (both are needed), Car Home will automatically launch once you dock your phone into the car dock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skally:
Car Dock - Fit and Fuctionalty

Hi all,

Received my car dock and been using it for a few days. here are my findings.

Fit.

As others have said, the fit is extremely tight. The phone is held in by the soft plastic front face being slightly smaller than the phone on the inside edge which you have to force the phone through and their are no cutouts around where the volume/power buttons are. Because of this, the buttons get randomly pressed when docking/undocking.

I tried massaging the inside rim of the front face with the spine of a knife to soften it. This seems to be better but still not great.

Why they couldn't use the same method from the Nexus One dock, or even the desk landscape dock.

Functionality.

it appears to go into car mode as an icon shows up in the notification bar to say so;)

The grand total of added functionality appears to be the home screen can now change orientation. If you click the notification to disable car mode the icon goes away, but the phone will still change orientation. The volume doesn't appear to affect the jack out apart from muting sound when it's all the way down.

Overall, the mount is really solid and well built and really holds the phone in place well, I can be sure it will keep my phone charged when stuck to the windscreen of my rally car/monster truck/space shuttle.

Pricewise? Even if they sold it for half it's price, and allowed me to get full use of it by making it available six months earlier(AKA the day the phone came out) its still too expensive.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Treggs:
Appreciate the mini review.

Sounds like the audio port is a line out like the desktop dock.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Thanks Efrant. Can you comment as to whether the volume and power buttons are at risk of damage due to the tightness? This was reported by another user.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
It's hard to say. It certainly does feel like there is risk of damage when inserting/removing (I get worried every time I insert/remove it), but I have nothing concrete to back up that feeling.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wej1976:
I'd second that, as efrant stated it's almost impossible to insert the phone without it adjusting the volume of the phone whilst inserting it too.

It's close to been ideal overall, if the'y just used it before clicking the big Green button to manufacture them straight from the cad mock up and ending up with 100K of them in a factory somewhere they would have known the issues we'd all be upset about. Especially at the cost they are charging (I'm lucky in that my work bought my mount) I wouldn't personally have done so after reading all the remarks on here.

Will
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] efrant:
+1

Or power, or both volume and power.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] patruns:
Then why did you buy it at double the price of what you feel is too expensive?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oman0123:
I don't think he got to test it out lol. You've never bought am item and thought to yourself. "Man I way overpaid for this."? I know I have.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Do you feel gasoline is way too expensive? I certainly do. How people feel is their business and they should be free to state their opinion without being harassed about it.