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[Android General] jenizaro:
Sinjiyo when will we see your new cartoon theme :)

Guys what do you think of Next Launcher? Anyone migrating permanently TSF Shell to Next Launcher? GO team is very quick, creating many widgets for Next. But TSF team is a little bit lazy i think :) we still dont have social networks widgets, bookmarks widget, tsf locker, sliding map and etc.
[Android General] yaatzek:
I love tsf shell, but common why is it taking so long? I'm not talking about next update but about that it is being in beta stage since launching, it's almost a year. For this amount of money we should expect something little more proffesional I think.
[Android General] sinjiyo:
Well, I think I can answer to your question.

My cartoon theme is on the way but really far to be ready :(. (I l, ost a lot of time to fix and find a clean way for paid theme on jb)

In my mind, next is really laggy when slide screen and show preview desktop... New widget calendar is really ugly... And actually go team break the possibility to add icon in theme.. That's not really friendly...

Of course they update very often...

Tsf finish with beta when 2.0 is release, and the shell too. Then, they will focus on widget...

Always in my mind, tsf team create on a 3d engine...

Sorry for bad english.
[Android General] jenizaro:
I really didn't like the Next launcher. A piece of TSF+ a piece of SPB+ a piece of Go Launcher= Next Launcher :D

You are right Sinjiyo calender widget looks really cheap.

TSF Shell is extremely smooth on my Note. Next launcher is also smooth but not butter smooth like TSF Shell.

I know TSF team uses 3D Engine it takes time but its been so long since we bought it and still so many missing things :)

I didn't understand what you mean by "...And actually go team break the possibility to add icon in theme..". You already created 2 themes for Next :confused:
[Android General] sinjiyo:
Yes.. Two theme with only 15 icon. Because we can't add more.. Why ? Strange.

Wich things missed ? Auto rotation, and ???
[Android General] jenizaro:
1-Auto rotation

2-Screen transition effects (but NOT like cube, stack etc TSF team should create original and unique screen transition effects)

3-Changing density of widgets and elements of the shell independently (my icon density is 1,8 and the tsf weather and notes widgets are extremely small when I increase it to 2, weather widget becomes normal but switch button becomes really big).

4-Where are the themes? Only ThemeBox?

5-TSF Locker (I think they dont have a plan to add Lockscreen add on)

6-Bug fix for widgets changing their pages.

7-Bug fix for app drawer (when turning pages it get stuck in the middle of effect sometimes.)

8-Facebook, Instagram, Twitter widget

9-Bookmarks widget

10-People widget

11-I dont remember should think more :)
[Android General] sinjiyo:
Great post :)

You can change the size of the switch button in the setting.

Free theme come later by tsf team.

Bug wouldl be fix, but I haven't...
[Android General] schimm:
My views owning both. TSF much more interesting. You only see Next enhancements primarily when you are setting up your desktop. Next clock widget is ugly and does not display your city. Just a major city in your time zone.

Neither launcher will maintain its default status when I boot up. I consider that a show stopper and hope both sides can find a fix. Next says it's a known issue with certain Samsung devices. I say fix it or give me my money back.

TSF widget scrolling performance is unacceptable with Twitter widgets. Fix that widget or create your own that behaves properly.

All that said TSF has more potential, is fun to play with, and has the cool effects.But you gotta squash the bugs. I've spent over 30 bucks for both.....and I'm forced to use Apex (which is of course a good launcher).

And one other thing. Really like that yellow notepad. Would be nice if it expanded to a larger size. I can use my stylus on it to take notes at meetings.

Sent from my stock Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] bonderbond:
Hi

I have been using TSF. Recently I have been into custom roms on CM10.1 AOKP in the form of RootBox. Lately I encountered this and I hope I can get some answers here. I find that when I toggle nav bar on or off, or handle a slider widget, TSF would go into reloading and this is very disruptive. But when I use Power Menu, this reloading does not happen.

Also, status bar transparency works but not nav bar. I am guessing that one or the other may have something to with TSF, other than the white screen problem when Evernote widget does not get refreshed properly.

Thanks in advance for sharing your thots.
[Android General] chelsearae5489:
Didn't like at guest but it alright
[Android General] yaatzek:
What?
[Android General] j76ms:
Update? I wants me some static dock! PRETTY PWEASE :)
[Android General] catman51:
I'm not concerned with the extras, I just want it to work properly so I can install it again. Switched to Apex until it does.
[Android General] jenizaro:
I found a solution for you if you still need it :)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tZS5rdW5lcy5hbmRyb2lkLmxhdW5jaGVyLmxvYWRlciJd

"Your paid launcher isn't set as default after reboot? Fix it with this loader.

THIS IS NOT A LAUNCHER. IF YOU DON'T NEED THIS UTILITY, DON'T DOWNLOAD IT!

There is a bug in Android 4.1, 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean), which causes the system to not remember paid launcher as a default launcher after a reboot of a device. This affects for example ADWLauncher EX, SPB Shell 3D, TSG Shell, Next Launcher, Action Launcher Pro and BIG Launcher. This free loader allows you to fix this issue."
[Android General] schimm:
Thanks for the idea but it didn't work for me. The boot up worked fine. The problem is when i hit the home button after boot up and was asked to choose a launcher. I would have to do this after each boot up. If i chose Next, the launcher prompt would reappear when i boot up. If i chose Jellybean the home button problem reappeared. Tried clearing caches, data, reinstall....no workie.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] heyodee:
l can confirm that it works.
[Android General] schimm:
For which launcher did you use it? TSF? I only tried Next because TSF needs to fix Twitter widget performance as it is effectively unusable.

Edit: ok TSF works. But my home button doesn't take me to my home page. Instead the back button does. Weird.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] schimm:
Widgets acting really screwy with this. Sometimes you can't move them. Then when you reboot there is a shadow of an older widget overlaying the one you wanted to move. A number of themes on the market don't work with 4.1. Some of them many months old. Back to Apex. This is not ready for prime time.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] sinjiyo:
"ok TSF works. But my home button doesn't take me to my home page. Instead the back button does. Weird."

You can set the home and back button in the setting. (gesture and hotkey)

Auto rotation will be in 1.8 :)
[Android General] bonderbond:
Meaning the home screen layout can rearrange in landscape properly? Like go into tablet mode?
[Android General] sinjiyo:
I don't know about go launcher. But yes :)
[Android General] bonderbond:
Thanks!
[Android General] heyodee:
New Year is Sunday, 1.8 release Monday?
[Android General] catman51:
We can hope
[Android General] jenizaro:
We are a small group of TSF Shell psychos i think :D Looking for update 5 times in a day and 10 times to this thread. i ask myself what the f*ck im doing but i still go on like this. 3days after 1.8 we re gonna start asking when is 1.9 coming :D
[Android General] sinjiyo:
Hey guys dev say in february now... :(
[Android General] yaatzek:
Oh man, that is sad, so sad :( I had already champaigne chilled in the fridge, guess I'll drink it without it :D
[Android General] jenizaro:
You should give us a new theme to reduce our pain :))
[Android General] Reyiz:
I Don't like this app :(
[Android General] Dr.Gonzo105:
The dev is now trolling US :(

I love this app but now :o
[Android General] Truman82:
Been using tsf since launch. Now I saw video about next launcher. As far as I can see, it is 90%copy of tsf launcher! I wonder isn't their launcher patented? Any1 can just copy another's ideas how launcher should work? Or is next launcher made by tsf ppl? Twice gained cash? :confused:
[Android General] sinjiyo:
Lol. This tread become really strange.
[Android General] schimm:
The two launchers are very different.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] jenizaro:
LOL. Devs of Tsf Shell should see this thread. They would release update immediately :D
[Android General] mb523:
I don't understand. It IS February. And they said after 2/10????:confused:
[Android General] yaatzek:
Maybe You should freeze the launcher which you don't want to use with TiBu and leave only TSF. Then it won't ask for it on each boot.
[Android General] jenizaro:
İ told the same thing but his Note2 is not rooted yet :)

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A new theme for TSF is on the market for free. Looks quite well.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.czarnomorski.theme.dcikonz.tsf
[Android General] schimm:
I got TSF to boot up with the Jellybean launcher. Now the problem is with widgets. They sometimes freeze where they don't scroll and can't be deleted unless you reboot and then you see a shadow of another launcher on another page. I expect more from a launcher at this price.

Sent from my hookah via hash cloud.
[Android General] sSACc:
Seems it is a good launcher, but really work fine with Jellybean 4.1.2 stock rom? Sombody can tell me about this..
[Android General] Truman82:
For me it has worked just fine. Even with 4.2.1 custom rom. Only thing that haven't worked 100%,is widgets. Sometimes they stop responding.

Overall, tsf ui feels like fast ui, faster than stock. And fluid. :)
[Android General] schimm:
If you have too many items in your scrolling widget it can grind to a halt. Like Twitter which is basically unusable in widget form. On the other hand it does much better with my stock exchange widget which has just a handful of items.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] sinjiyo:
Dev is rewriting this part. Android widget scrollable.
[Android General] L00n:
Happy new year .. i guess ...
[Android General] Atok_fr:
There are only one developper ? Oo
[Android General] sinjiyo:
Always speaking about next.. No need, the go team have 50 dev..

Tsf are two guys, now 3 with the new designer. There are looking for super new développer, but that seems really hard to find.
[Android General] rexboy:
Interesting to know, I always assumed the TSF team might not be as big as GO but certainly more than 2 or 3.

Regardless I love their launcher, been using TSF from their first releases and couldn't go back to the traditional common launchers after experiencing how fluidic TSF is :)

Sent from my SG3
[Android General] yaatzek:
Sinjiyo is the tsf team connected somehow with TAT launcher which was shown about 2 years ago? It looks quite the same.
[Android General] sinjiyo:
No. This is the chiness feeling...
[Android General] jenizaro:
Its a little bit stolen. Tat team makes fun of TSF about being stolen on Twitter. Its %98 same :D
[Android General] ewoks:
Anybody with idea how this is done? OpenGl or ..?

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is this open source? how is it done, with RenderScript? OpenGL? 10q
[Android General] jenizaro:
Developers of TSF Shell using 3D Engine. Its not an open source app.
[Android General] Jonny176:
anxious for update

Have been using TSF for a few months now...love it!...can't wait for update...the floating icons and the water affect...is that something for a future update or was it used simply for testing and is not an available app?
[Android General] sSACc:
Thanks mate, I appreciate the fast response

Thanks for the tip, I will keep in mind
[Android General] Duc Bop:
I've been checking this thread everyday twice a day
[Android General] yaatzek:
Odp: Android3D UI - TSF Shell Pro

You're not the only one :)
[Android General] jenizaro:
Let's send them an e-mail to ask the exact date of update. Fed up with checking google play :cool:
[Android General] yaatzek:
Done :)
[Android General] Somnath021:
Wow..awesome
[Android General] desh_iit:
Need An Stable Update

Once in play store I gave TSF 5 star, but since last update I made it 1 star because TSF became unusable for my phone (galaxy note, official ICS). We definitely need a stable update for daily use, I mean

No White Box for system widgets

No widget in wrong page

No hang in app drawer

no msg like "Location not found" in weather widget

I wish they could fix these irritating issues earlier so that I could use it as a default launcher. But now 2 month after the update we did not get any fix. This is pity.

Need a real good stable update so that I can rate it 5 star again.

:cool:
[Android General] schimm:
I think it's about time someone is made accountable for TSF and products like it. It is a beta product that charges customers a full premium price for something that is unusable as a default launcher. You can't evaluate it in 15 minutes because it's flaws do not present themselves in that time period. So Google is partly to blame there. They should also oversee the release of apps at this price level to insure the customer isn't getting ripped off of real money. 16 bucks is real money in the app world. You don't charge full for flawed beta releases and this is what we have here. Will be searching the people I need to direct my ire to.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] jenizaro:
You're totally right! They should have finished beta level. But after fixing those bugs and adding few basic needs it will be complete launcher. On the other hand, they dont answer mails and dont announce any info about update. Thank god Sinjiyo is here and giving us info about the process.
[Android General] Jonny176:
.......so Sinjiyo any news :D
[Android General] sinjiyo:
No, :) but some of us translate the shell. When we receive a mail to start translation for 1.8, release would be not far..

When I have the mail. I will tell you...
[Android General] sSACc:
After reading the last comments, I think that the best is wait for a stable release from the TSF team. Thanks to all of you guys.
[Android General] jenizaro:
Dear User,

We are sorry for the inconvenience caused to you.

We might release TSF Shell 1.8 version at the middle of February or by the end of February since the new widgets (SMS widget and Clock widget) are still under debugging. Please believe that we are sparing no effort in working, we also wish to let our users experience the fun of the new version in the premise of the stability of the software. Thanks for your support, comprehension and concern!!

Best regards,

Technical Support

TSFUI

We constantly work on improving our support and your feedback is very helpful for us.
[Android General] yaatzek:
Yep, received the same one :)
[Android General] catman51:
Where can I get an older stable version?
[Android General] sSACc:
+1
[Android General] jenizaro:
I dont understand if you have already bought TSF Shell on Google Play you have license to use it. You can search and download older version of apk files from google.
[Android General] catman51:
Seems you can find cracked versions, that's not what I want. I want an official version.
[Android General] jenizaro:
Sinjiyo has a surprise for us :) Metal HD theme :)
[Android General] nitronet:
I can't believe it doesn't even have a static dock that stays on all screens.
[Android General] lairdchris:
AW: Android3D UI - TSF Shell Pro

That's what makes TSF Shell different from other launchers. Why should it have one?

I don't miss it...
[Android General] rexboy:
Agreed, I hate the static dock and much prefer the way TSF has it with the press of the side bar.

I can't stand touchwiz, GO and all the other clone launchers.

Sent from my SG3
[Android General] Gene_Bailey:
But what would make it more accessible is to have the option for a static dock so that those who do want it can enjoy it and those who don't can just simply go on about their day.
[Android General] yaatzek:
It will have static dock option in the next update... which we all are waiting waaaay too long.
[Android General] schimm:
The side bar is a bit wonky because once you open it the four mini tabs are a bit hit and miss to open. You have to look real close as they are delineated by only a subtle shade of gray and are too small to open reliably.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] Father Ted:
I concur.... that option would be great - but a brilliant addition would be a shortcut to the 'home page' that we could add to the floating dock.

The problem for me is that when I open the floating dock and scroll left and right, I end up selecting and opening some app... even if its only to escape out of the the dock.

Scrolling up the screen with the dock under finger doesn't work, and trailing the dock down off the bottom of the screen opens 'search' 9 out of 10 times.

Then its back back back!

It sorta spoils what is a very unique an excellent feature that I really like about TSF Shell.
[Android General] Jonny176:
...I found sliding up from floating dock brings me to the screen selector does this not work on yours? I use a Galaxy s2 skyrocket
[Android General] Father Ted:
It does, sometimes!....... other times it will open the app in the floating dock before I get up the screen, or even it might open the dock app on top of the screen selector.

Individually, all beautiful parts of the UI, but there is definitely a crossroads with the dock that could be resolved by putting in a shortcut for the home screen that can be dropped into the floating dock to be selected if you want to back out.
[Android General] yaatzek:
Sinjiyo are the devs planning to make some tablet options for TSF?
[Android General] Atok_fr:
I think the actual configuration of TSF is already adapted for tablet, isn't it ?
[Android General] desh_iit:
and no update till now

Looks like this launcher will die down soon ...
[Android General] catman51:
It's a shame, but they need to get a fix to all the problems out and worry about new additions later.
[Android General] rexboy:
Maybe according to you, I've used it for ages and love it.

Works fine for my needs, if you don't like it don't use it.

Many launchers don't have fans but it doesn't mean they are going to die lol.

Sent from my GS3
[Android General] jenizaro:
You're right! TSF is a unique launcher. Current situation of the launcher is also good just need some bug fixes. It will not die like a sick street dog. But as I always said: "Tsf Team! Update the f@cking launcher we want more and more features." :D
[Android General] L00n:
with weekly updates next launcher is catching up fast.. hope they release the update soon :)
[Android General] JudgeDredd67:
I own both but am using Next fir now. I dont really care for the static dock on Next but for the moment I prefer it.

We are all anxiously awaiting an update. :)
[Android General] sruf:
actually, letting users wait more than 2 months for an update, nor communicating any upcoming release is A NO GO today.

this kind of behavior will get me to switch to a different launcher.
[Android General] dawabz94:
I - unfortunately - agree with you,

It's better to deliver within even 4months while COMMUNICATING with users instead of releasing within 2months without a single communication ...

Users are waiting and should be made aware of what's going on and why it's being so long ... leaving users uninformed is the worst thing to do.

I'm getting fed up too ... :(
[Android General] schimm:
I hate the google 15 minute rule. I think over the past month I've cancelled more apps than I bought. Certainly will not buy another expensive app like this again not to mention it stains the developer. Just like anything else your business practices will chart your future success and failure and right now its not looking so good for these guys.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2.
[Android General] L00n:
any news about "end of this month" update?

sinjiyo please share something ..
[Android General] catman51:
I hate to say this, but Next has passed TSF. It's stable and smooth and my widgets don't move themselves.
[Android General] Jonny176:
Next isn't bad but their widgets dont keep up with systems time i. e widget says 3:00 actual time is 3:30 id rather have moving widgets lol
[Android General] rexboy:
I've used TSF for ages and thought I'd try next again and as much as I try I don't find it anywhere near as fluid or unique as TSF.

Everyone has different needs and opinions but for me it's not close to TSF, I find it a glorified go launcher with slightly few more fancy animations.

As said though, updates are slow when vs the competition and for a premium price, one would expect more in this area.

Sent from my GS3
[Android General] zxcslo:
+1 :good:

For me is also best launcher ever. I've had no problems with TSF since I've start using it 3 months ago... :cool:
[Android General] jenizaro:
TSF Shell : Feels Unique.

Next Launcher: You feel like adw, launcher pro etc. Nothing special.
[Android General] Kailkti:
The mere fact of you saying that no one cannot tell you that the UI is anything but fugly is very leading towards you proclaiming your opinion as a fact. Whether or not you meant it, or if your intention was otherwise, your statement is still too bold to come across as an opinion.

Either way you have cleared up your stance so this has served its purpose and we will leave this at its end.

$1 gets you a reply
[Android General] Guru Zeb:
No m8 thats teen garbage!!!!!! What it's called 'strongly stating your case' especially when you back it with details. You maybe need to learn the difference between that and 'telling people what to think' :rolleyes:

Clear up?? all i did was restate what i said in my 2nd post ........... as it was obvious you'd missed quite a lot of it.

Am still not seeing any defence of the use or resources or any other the other potential niggles i pointed out :D
[Android General] gr4ndm4st3r_bl4ck:
His statement, being a fact or not is just that... a statement. You don't like it, you don't read it. Simple as that...

I actually agree with everything you said...

1) First things first, we're talking about something that may never, EVER, get r released, I've seen too many of these goddamnit-this-looks-good launchers on youtube that

were never published... and guess why... because they could never make it work on all phones...

2) All those animations are indeed fugly ( opinion here! ) and he's right about resources... No fu**ing way HTC Hero is going to run that... ever...

3) If we get the ability to customise it and turn off animations, then I say it's cool... otherwise... a quick and painful death is what it gets...
[Android General] xperiax10.awesome:
I sent a mail to them regarding release date, they replied its still FEB only..

sent via awesome aRc (rooted 2.3.4)
[Android General] ofeklivny:
look at the description in their youtube video(can't link because I'm new), it says "Release date 2012-02-29" :)

almost not fabuary, but they managed it lol
[Android General] YoungSinema:
There are a ton of other launchers that were never released, but they had release dates
[Android General] hughfollett:
I don't have so much experience and I don't know if tsf is going to be launched but what I say is: tsf team has also created an entire site to announce and describe this launcher.. There has been too much efforts only to fool us... I'd relly like to try this awesom launcher!!!
[Android General] crackunia:
it will be great for tablets
[Android General] seefood:
Also, the demo clip

if that's only a concept mockup and there's no real product behind it, then the youtube demo clip is way to much effort just to fool the users :-)
[Android General] 008Rohit:
AWESOME!

It's not free, right?