yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] andyln3:
This reminds me of AOL days.

XDA was once a site for a small, specific group of users. With the rapidly expanding popularity of Android, more and more users are finding their way around Android and are learning about custom ROMs and rooting. It is no surprise that XDA has gained popularity.

The question people need to ask is how they want to respond to the influx of new users. I've seen many snobby responses to posts around here lately. Rather than doing that, I think its better to educate the new users. The more hostile the "regulars" here are, the more likelihood that new users will move on to a different forum. That's bad for XDA and the Android dev community here.

Ok, done with rant. Looking forward to CM9.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] OgremustCrush:
Not technical so likely legal? Anyway. I wasn't speaking of the p7510 specifically, other devices had similar situations on cm7, just seems like devices don't get public official prerelease builds as often. Understand the reason, and again not blaming the cm team, it is the environment in which development occurs that has changed, not their policies specifically.

Love the work you do pershoot as well as the rest of the cm team.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] hoodoomagic:
Well over at the Nook Color forums the way they are handling things in regard to CM9 is pretty cool.

Someone just wrote a guide on how to build a flashable CM9 rom from source, that way if someone wants to play they'll actually have to take the time to learn how to do it themselves and it respects the devs wishes that nobody releases an alpha rom. From what I've seen it's been a win-win all around.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] JustinBP:
I don't feel it's a lack of information out there anyone can go to the CM wiki and follow the guide on how to compile from CM from source. I know my post count is low but that's because if you search the forum you can find most answers without asking them. I think the problem more lies in the fact that some people think things should be handed to them and they don't want to do the work. I mean how many post do you see that just ask for a link ? Sometimes you just can't find things yes and we all need help every now and then. But you should always look first and then ask.

IMHO sent from the peanut gallery
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xboxfanj:
Can you tell us what that issue is? And why hasn't that stopped xoom ics?

Edit: photon too
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] hoodoomagic:
Not exactly going to disagree, since that's the way I do things. Still over at the NC CM9 thread you've got people excited about helping each other out, sharing knowledge and learning new things about android. Take a look for yourself: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1370873
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RileyGrant:
Pershoot, I see various commits for camera in the repo and I was wondering if that was one of the issues that may be worked out before release. Thanks. :)

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ericj83:
I can't imagine they would release without the camera working. I'm going to take a look at a couple of the bugs myself in the next couple of days, and I imagine others will now also, so I can't imagine it not getting fixed
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] RileyGrant:
Only a couple of devices have a working camera. ICS uses completely different camera software and therefore all of the drivers and proprietaries have to be written and modified until they function properly. I know on other ports its been a pain in the ass and takes countless hours.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] etbob623:
Perhaps its just me but having already seen the preview of the alpha build, you could take a year and it still be worth the wait. Obviously speed is appreciated but considering that most apps are gonna have to update to support ICS anyway, I don't really see it as an issue.

and pershoot, I envy you're patience lol
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] |flyte|:
As I said before.. I'm suspecting some sort of resistance from Samsung..
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Stuckinabox:
Seems a little silly to release an unencrypted device and then complain about people putting open source software on it...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Arkanius:
It's probably a Tegra2 blob or binary that is not supposed to come out of hiding yet
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Step666:
Since I've already had to delete one CM9 Kang Dev thread entirely and step in and clean up an argument in another as well as clean this thread up too, it seems only prudent to add a similar warning to this thread as well...

If people insist on arguing and flaming one another, this thread will be closed or deleted.

The usefulness of this thread is questionable at best, so any more behaviour contrary to the forum rules will result in the whole thread being removed. Or put simply, if you can't play nice you get your toys taken away.

Also, gossip and speculation about why certain actions have been taken by Moderators will not be tolerated either.

Moderation decisions are between the Moderator and the User in question and are nobody else's business.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jfassad:
Hello guys,

Does anybody know how to produce a CWM installable (not update) zip for CM9 ? I've managed to build the code and generate the update-cm-9.0.0-RC0-p4wifi-KANG-signed.zip , which, for some reason, fails to install on my tab. I get an error on the very first line of the updater-script -- assert(getprop("ro.product.device") == "p4wifi" || getprop("ro.build.product") == "p4wifi"); Im running pershoot's ClockworkMod 5.0.2.7 btw.

Also, I've failed to find out how to modify the contents of the ROM after the build. Once I've built the code and have the update-cm-9.0.0-RC0-p4wifi-KANG-signed.zip file, how can I modify it's contents ?

Any help pointing to the right direction is very much appreciated.

thank you.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] JustinBP:
Not sure on the error but what do you mean by modify?

If you mean just pull some apk files on Linux you can just open the kang with Ark and delete some apks. But if you are talking changing xml files or others then you have to unzip the kang and decompile the apks you want to change then recompile, zip and resign it. Or I guess you could pull a clone from github and change things before you compile it (never tried it this way myself).
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] xboxfanj:
To get it to flash, go to metainf/com/google/android/updaterscript and open that with a text editor (notepad++ is preferred, because it splits everything into neat lines, but others work as well). Then delete the line or lines with assert get prop at the beginning. Then save it and it should flash. To modify, just either extract, and do stuff in the folder, or just drag n drop to add stuff. Press delete to delete stuff.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AMoosa:
Is thIs different to the one on the other thread? Will you be sharing yours?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] nickwarn:
Ooppss, thanked you by misstake :) but its christmas and you probably helped someone sometime that didnt thank you so theres your thank you. Good luck with your build.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jfassad:
So you are saying that I can unzip the kang, modify its contents and then zip it again. Is the kang signed ? Do I have to resign the kang if I remove some apks , for example ?

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I edited the updater-script but for some reason the rom would't install. It stopped giving me the assert error but then it just gave me a "Aborted installation" message. Then I noticed that I had 2 different zips in the build target directory and the other zip did not have the assert and installed without issue.

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You mean DaAwesome's kang ? I think it's the same. Maybe the one Im building is a bit fresher, since Im constantly syncing the code.. but I haven't really payed attention.. Im still focusing on the build process.

About sharing the rom, right now I dont have much to share as I've not contributed anything to the code, I didn't make any changes. Im doing this to familiarize myself with the code and build process, then I'll be able to contribute with code and hopefully my code will be merged. By then I think CM9 will already be released.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] pershoot:
Use the built recovery.img in out/target/product/p4wifi, and you will pass the assert check.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Isilmalith:
Jepp, thats really interesting. I suppose a port would be much easier now? Hardwarewise, the Xoom is more or less the same, isn't it? (at least CPU/GPU and stuff).

Edit:

Okay, things really get going.

Check out the Xoom Forums:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1396251

Aaand youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM4VSKg87M4

Looks amazing!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GalaxyNinja:
Guess I don't really know what i'm talking about then. So would cm9 then make it possible for a custom ROM to be built for sammy 10.1 or would other development be needed as well?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Isilmalith:
CM 10.1 IS a custom ROM. It's just built from the Android Open Source Project and not a modified Samsung ROM, like those we are using now.

Stay tuned, I think with the new Xoom build, ICS is coming very soon.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thekendog:
I wonder if task is already looking at this. Hasn't he mentioned before he's worked with the Xoom guys on stuff?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GalaxyNinja:
This does look awesome! I hope this means we will be able to have multitasking inside of a browser. I would love to listen to music inside one tab while cruising the net inside another.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] nakedninja42:
I don't think the xoom sources are going to make much of a difference for us. If you remember months back, Task and Phantom were hard at work to get a xoom port of 3.2 for our Tab but couldn't get certain things to work at all, like the WiFi. I think all the speculation about the xoom source is pointless imo since cyanogen announced a month ago that ICS on the tab runs really smooth meaning that he already had most of it working.

So after typing this I saw Task post this morning
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
Sorry, as Isilmalith pointed out, I goofed: CM9 is a custom ROM, not firmware (I'm not even sure what I was thinking when I wrote that!). That said, CM9 is a custom ROM, so it's already tweaked. Task (if he wants to) would create his own ROM, not just alter the CM9 ROM, so he would start from the android source.

Take a look at the Dark Glass ROM thread if you want to understand what happens when a dev takes another dev's work...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Isilmalith:
Yeah, read his posting too. I asked him whether he thinks the new sources will make any difference. I'm sorry to hear about that.

I'd really like to have some more time right now, so I could dig into this myself, but unfortunately, exams keeping me busy :(
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] AceTrader:
Can't Pershoot give us a heads up on when CM will be ready for our tabs? I believe he is working with Cyanogen on this.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] nakedninja42:
He could, but I think he would have already if they already have alpha ready.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GalaxyNinja:
Yikes, that's not cool. I can see why task is pissed.

Guess where i got confused is that task's ROM uses a pershoot/cyanogenmod kernel
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
Ask him yourself. Just be aware that one of the rules of cyanogenmod is no ETAs, so be prepared for rejection...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ykram:
Woot! Can't wait to try the CM9 build.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] b00sted:
I cant wait.. I <3 my gnex w/ ICS cant imagine my tab w/ the same!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Jay Rock:
I've seen it on the xoom and it looks awesome. Hope its a couple of days, not weeks. Lol.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] K Rich:
Stop teasing us Steve and let it go!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
It's funny, I'm excited too, refreshing XDA and searching the web, and I think we all know that it will be some time before a stable release comes out, certainly not days...

It's pretty funny how tight a grip google has on our hearts with these incremental releases. I get it: it's got lots of updates and "optimizations" and a few new features. But in the end, most of us will just go back to using the tablet in the same way: read books, surf the web, watch videos, google chat. And for the most part those are no different than they were with stock 3.1. There's a lot of us on xda who refresh task's thread 4 times a day to see if there's another release (and there usually is), and then install it--regardless if it has any features we care for or changes we want. We love the tiny speed enhancements and minor changes. And we're willing to spend an hour each time to getting it running again (and risk several hours if it has a problem). Honestly, it's madness.

But just to be sure, I've bookmarked Kondik's google+ page. You know, in case he mentions something.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] animatechnica:
It's a well known disease called tinkeritis
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zerong:
What is cm9?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stardust240781:
CyanogenMod 9. Next time use google for questions like that.

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kenjie410:
So what kind of questions we can ask here?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GalaxyNinja:
I have a serious case of tinkeritis...... Time to go refresh my pages in search of my next fix.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] haloxo:
yep...i thought we r in the general forum...not developer forum or something :cool:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TooSlo:
How about you actually look for something yourself instead? Do you have such a sense of entitlement that using a search engine is below you?

Suck it up buttercup. Do something yourself, and if you can't figure it out, then feel free to ask here.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] fisheric1:
Could you be more of a ****? There is such thing as tact. Look it up.

Sent from my HTC E premium
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] nakedninja42:
Be sure to google it when you do :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
lol

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tact
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] TooSlo:
Absolutely.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Towle:
Get over yourself. Your real life must suck pretty bad to try and be a tough guy online.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Isilmalith:
Honestly. If one doesn't know what CM9 is, google isn't the worst answer to most of your questions. Actually a search for exactly "cm9" shows a blogpost about CyanogenMod 9 on position 4, mentioning Android and Ice Cream Sandwich.

Asking questions is good, and we wouldn't be here if we had none, but it's also nice to try answering the question with a little research, before asking it in public.

And now, btt ;)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] K Rich:
Well said, thanks for that.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Towle:
I'm not saying he should have asked that question, I agree he should have searched, BUT... xda is better off with people asking obvious questions than it is with unnecessary rudeness.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] cwininger:
the original reply wasn't rude. this is xda, not yahoo answers or ask.com. these threads are cluttered enough.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] nandihno:
Just speculation but maybe cm has taken bit more of 'couple of days' because now there is 4.0.3 with new kernel

So if that's the cae then it can only be good anyone know any more info?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
Very well put. I think the standard response should just be a simple "Use the search function" or a "lmgtfy." But I have to agree that providing an answer to such questions should be frowned upon also as encouraging cluttered forums.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] sixfearstheseven:
I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of CM9 on my Galaxy Tab, and my poor little heart skips a beat every time I open the XDA app and see a new post in this thread, but then that excitement turns to rage and I just want to smash my head against a brick wall when I see this stupid debate over whether the meaning of "CM9" is common knowledge or not and then this competition over who can make themselves look like the biggest asshole by concocting the most vile reply to the guy who originally asked what CM9 meant, a guy who is probably brand new to Modding and figured the (what appears to be) helpful community at xda wouldn't mind if he just posted his question here since, after all, he's already browsing the site, but apparently it's too hard to say "CM9 = cyanogenmod 9" even though it takes half the time to type that than it took to type the initial douche-bag response he received instead.

And don't give me the "it encourages blah blah blah wah wah wah" thing. Ever heard of bluelight.ru? Ever been in the OD forum? It would eat all of you alive. After years of moderating that forum, a sub forum of a site with over 100k members, I've learned its easier to just answer the question and be done with it. It takes a lot less effort than what just happened in this thread.

Seriously, not everyone on this site knows everything like those of you I'm talking about, oh holy ones. But really, my main concern is constantly having my hopes for an update saying CM9 for the Tab has been released crushed every time I open this thread. If it happens again, I will burn this place down with the offending xda members still inside.

Carry on.

Sent from my Ice Cream Sandwiched-out Droid Incredible
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=irony
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] sixfearstheseven:
Irony, or sarcasm, you choose.

All I really wanted to say was for you all to stop teasing me by making this thread have new posts, but adderall makes my fingers keep moving.

Sent from my Ice Cream Sandwiched-out Droid Incredible
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=deja+vu

*Rimshot*

BTW- If CM9 is released for the GT10 it won't be in this thread. As moderator for a subforum that would "eat all of you alive" I'd think you'd realize that and calm down...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stardust240781:
Wow, I didn't know answering questions with an advice to google next time was rude. LOL. Xda used to be better...

Behavior like that will NOT motivate people to answer questions.

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] kmmxracer:
my god people, calm down.

If anyone knows what to do with this info, be my guest

Steve Kondik recently changed the device name for the ICS build on github from GT_P7510 (to) p4wifi

It's still referenced as the GT 7510 I/O edition, but I think there is potential in the code for most of out devices.

Anyways, I'm board, and hate all the bickering. Please go out and search the Internet for you answers. Stop all the hate :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Arkanius:
It's those situations that makes me regret my 3G tablet sometimes
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] poisike:
I believe the P7510 rom will work just fine (without 3G of course) on P7500. I flashed my P7300 with a P7310 rom and everything worked except 3G.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] crecsky:
Trollololol.

(Am I the only one who realized he's trolling?)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] adamski123:
People on xda r so rude its unreal :L

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sent from my galaxy s2, using my fingers.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Dai323:
What's an xda?

I'm sorry....couldn't resist.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] JonSolo:
On the other hand, people on xtc are easy.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] sixfearstheseven:
Or why not develop for the 7510 first, release that when it's done, then add 3g support? That would make a lot more sense than having the wifi only version ready but holding on to it to add 3g support, release it, then strip off 3g to release a wifi only version. With your logic, you'd be working backwards. Usually when something has extra features, it takes longer to make, so the version with less features is usually the one that moves along faster. (Then again, I know as much about development as I do about....something I know nothing about)

But anyway, that's irrelevant. The reason the 7510 will probably get it first has been pointed out by quite a few people before me: the people developing the ROM own a 7510, so that's what they develop for.

For what its worth, most 7510 ROMs work on the 7500, but don't include support for 3g, obviously. If that's something that wouldn't bother you for the time being, then you're good to go.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
You are, because he's not. Read some of his other posts.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] SeanHacker:
3G should come first??? thats a really weird thing to say. when thinking about it, how can you say one should or shouldn't come first? build your own roms then things can come first to you whenever you want bro.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
Especially considering that Steve lives in the U.S. and I'd guess 80% of the Tabs sold in the U.S. are Wi-Fi. A Tab with cellular here costs roughly $1,220 over two-years which is way out of range for a lot of people.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stardust240781:
I quote myself.

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] stardust240781:
Wow. That is very expense. Did not know that.

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[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] K Rich:
So, someone who knows how to read github, any updates? I need this to come out, i need something need to flash!!:D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
It's an alpha build so its unlikely you'll be able to flash anytime soon.

On that note, I think we should officially change this thread into a discussion about what types of questions should be asked on XDA.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] shmigao:
basically everything. the point is in what sub-forum the question is posted. to that end, the question is in the right thread and in the right sub-forum
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] |flyte|:
I'm guessing that Samsung asked Steve to delay the release of CM9 for the Tab until after Samsung's official ICS release in Q1 2012.

The dood does work for Samsung.. so wouldn't a CM9 release be in a little "conflict of interest" of Samsung?

discuss.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] nakedninja42:
Is this speculation or an actual post from him?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zetsubou.shin:
I don't get it. If even possible, why would that be a conflict of interest? If they'd "feel" anything towards this it should be happiness that someone that works for them can pull this off.

A custom ROM is not an official release.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] |flyte|:
see my post

10 char

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Perhaps Samsung wants the ICS glory for their devices first? What does it say about a company's offerings when one of their employees is able to release a community driven equivalent / alternative to theirs?

I dunno.. I'm just speculating.. I don't think a push back from Samsung wouldn't be unrealistic.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] BarryH_GEG:
I'd be shocked if more than 5% of Android device owners either know or care what rooting is. An ICS leak prior to Samsung's general implementation isn't going to steal their thunder. There's speculation that Samsung intentionally leaks firmware prior to general release so the geeks and dev community can help catch things they may have missed. Besides, Steve's been working for Samsung for months now, well before his last update on ICS for the Tab.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] zerong:
:-) thanks