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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Silent8Strike:
Hmm, the opinions seem Nexus-sided so far, but I have to ask since my situation is kind of unique. I have had a Galaxy SII since it was released, but I can get a Nexus brand new for free (today even) if I want. I'm going to put CM on whichever I choose (already on my SII), so for the people who have had or still have the SII, what would your choice be in my situation?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nrfitchett4:
Really? Because the Rezound, with the exception of ICS, is on par, or beats the nexus in every category...

720p screen (not pixelated), some like amoled, some like lcd

16gb on board, 16gb card (upgraded to 32gb from my tbolt)

1.5ghz dual core with a better gpu than the nexus

8mp camera to 5mp camera that all the reviewers have been disappointed by. The rezound camera might not take a picture a second, but it takes a really good picture every 3.

Plastic housing vs aluminum

I agree, to each their own, but I don't think the Nexus is the best phone they have period. I think the rezound and nexus are a wash, then maybe the razr, then everything else.

So disappointing all they advertise is the Razr. Was in the store the other day and was looking for Rezound accessories and they had to get them from the back. Asked them how the Razr was doing and they said, not good at the location though there were posters plastered on every wall for it.

Verizon fail...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GR36:
It will have all sorts of screen savers, security and tracking, and also restriction software all over it. It will run roads slower than the retail version.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cynikalJ:
Well now I have some statements about your observations as I own a rezound and went to vzw to check out the nexus. While the nexus is a nice phone I would not switch. The rezound has more ppi than the nexus so yes the screen is better samoled or not. True megapixels do not a camera make but the instant shot on the nexus is virtually a wasted feature as you will get maybe 1 usable picture out of 5. And oh, if I set my rezound to no review it is indeed as fast as the nexus I tested it. Once the rezound has aosp ics it will be a much different story..... Also wow a Samsung phone that can get a decent gps lock, I am impressed by that but my rezound locks on gps instantly..... Have you ever used or messed with a rezound? Just curious
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cynikalJ:
Ok I have to completely disagree on the razr being above the rezound, the white text is yellow. And jagged as an Atari so I am not sure what could be better. And the reason the rezound is a tad slower is the fact that I think it actually focuses before it takes the picture. The nexus I messed with today did not focus before its instant picture as I was slightly moving the phone. Don't get me wrong the nexus is a great phone but I think the candy coating will wear off and samsung's inferior build quality will surface. I had a fascinate and while it had a beautiful screen and the camera was so-so the build quality was horrible. I am already reading of people complaining about build quality. But again to each his own. We go with what makes us happy, it's what makes us, us.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
I've had the Nexus S, the galaxy s 4g, and the epic touch 4g and have not had one issue with build quality. On the other hand I've had an Evo and a Sensation, both of which have had issues (one with screen separation and the other with the power button getting worse over time, htc letters falling off, volume rocker fell off two different battery covers, and faded paint on the top portion of the battery cover after less than 1 month). So while those htc phones may have felt more expensive, in the end they were built more poorly than that of the samsung phones I've had. I have had absolutely no build quality issues yet with any of my Samsung android phones.

As for your other statements. We'll agree to disagree on my placement of the Razr over the Rezound. I'm just really not impressed with the resound, all it is, is the Amaze with 720p resolution and minus nfc, and all the amaze is the Sensation without the underclock and nfc thrown in. So basically the rezound is nothing more than the Sensation without the underclock and a higher res screen. Color me unimpressed. As for what you stated about focusing, the GNex focuses also, it just does it quickly (at times too quickly lol). However, you can focus it before you start shooting though. BTW, the rezound isn't just a tad slower in the camera either. It's slower overall. The phone is not nearly as snappy as the Razr or the GNex, and sense tends to bog it down at times. Part of that is the fact that sense is a very heavy overlay, the other part is that they chose to continue using the underwhelming Snapdragon S3 to power it. That is a big reason for my putting it behind the Razr. The rezound cannot perform as well as the Razr in normal use. To each their own but the red baron is not for me....and who's idea was it to put christmas lights on a phone (capacitive keys)?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nrfitchett4:
for a self professed tech junkie, you sure don't know your phones...

1. My rezound doesn't lag. I've seen the videos of the nexus and it has the same UI hiccups every android device ever made has had (with the exception of the GS2 exynos series)

2. You lose all credibility when you say the RAZR screen is better than the rezound. I guess you live in a pixelated technocolor oversaturated world.

3. OMAP vs S3, yes the s3 is A8 architecture, a hybrid A8/A9 architecture, but it is slightly behind the omap. The difference is in the gpu, the s3 gpu runs circles around the omap gpu and the graphics benchmarks show the rezound way ahead.

4. My camera shutter is almost instant, just slightly slower than the nexus, and it takes about 3 seconds for that image to process and be ready to take another. Now, I can put it into action burst and shoot fuzzy pics just as fast as the nexus, but that's exactly what you will get, fuzzy pics. That instant shutter doesn't give the camera time to focus.

5. I think you are the first person to say that a skinny rounded phone is uncomfortable to hold. Let me guess, the RAZR is more comfortable to hold as well? The Rezound sits perfect in the palm. Maybe you just have strange hands. I've always preferred phones with a little heft and metal to them. Samsung phones seem durable, but I always feel like I'm holding a toy. That is a personal preference at best.

The only think the Nexus has going for it is ICS and hardware acceleration. Yes it will be the first to get updates, but then, since when did xda ever care about official updates for phones?

My point is that the Nexus is not better or worse than the Rezound. Both should be great phones.

I think the Nexus fails as the flagship ICS device. It should have been so much more. It should be the top spec'ed phone for android, and it lacks on several fronts behind a phone already on the market. I'm not sure its even the best samsung phone out. I would probably take the Samsung gs2 lte on at&t over it.

Galaxy Nexus should have had:

720p screen

1.5 dualcore exynos processor

1gb of ram

at least the same camera from the gs2

micro sd card slot

Better build quality, come on samsung, let nokia show you how to make a sturdy feeling plastic phone....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blestsol:
Cosiggity on what the nexus should of been.

Disclaimer :And my sigs this way because I'm bitter as hell that my epic 4g touch camera is better.

Sent from a Rezound, crappie camera included.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
1. Yes it does lag, I'm not talking about an occasional hiccup. I'm talking about where things SLOW DOWN because of sense. And yes this does happen, especially so once the phone has had more uptime.

2. I stand by my statement, the washed out poor contrast rezound screen does not impress me. Pulling up something on both phones side by side the razr looks much better.

3. I knew you'd run to the gpu defense lol. What difference does it really make besides in benchmarks? None. The fact is there is no software that's going to push the gpu nearly to the point that these overkill gpu's are necessary so that's a moot point. But I tell you what does matter in every day use, memory bandwidth and the snapdragon s3 falls short by a very large margin. Like I said, it doesn't even have half the throughput...and it shows. It isn't slightly behind, it's well behind, period point blank.

4. The shutter speeds are not comparable. Like I said, go in low light and see what the shutter speed of the rezound is. End of story.

5. That bump feels odd. Maybe after using it for an extended period of time will cause you to get used to it, but as previously stated, it just doesn't seem well thought out. I find the design to be quite poor. That unsightly bulge is just that...unsightly. Then add to that the fact that they felt the need to include christmas lights for capacitive buttons, they just wound up with a phone who's design I find quite undesirable.

No nfc, screen that's a bit washed out, poor man's dual core processor, lag that comes and goes at times (see poor man's dual core processor), poor contrast (grey blacks), sense, and christmas lights all combine to make a phone that I find to be lacking. Is it a decent phone? Yes. Is it a great phone? No. I'd take the Gnex or Razr over it any day of the week. I'm just not impressed by the red baron at all. Heck, the only difference between the Sensation and the Rezound is that they didn't underclock the processor and it has a higher res screen...oh and christmas lights. Gotta love HTC and their retread phones..:rolleyes:

What the rezound should have been:

A quality A9 processor

A screen that isn't washed out

A design without an unsightly bulge

Sense better optimized

NFC

NO CHRISTMAS LIGHTS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nrfitchett4:
1. How much time do you spend looking at your screen at a 150 degree angle?

2. I'm guessing most don't find the "bulge" unsightly, and from what I've experienced and read, its probably more ergonomic.

3. I read and see all this sense bashing, yet when I run other 3rd party launchers, they use almost as much memory and processor as sense and don't look near as good. Not to mention you can freeze 90% of sense and use whatever you want.

4. Let's set up a poll of who uses NFC....

Nobody, oh and google wallet isn't on the verizon version.

5. I get it, you don't like red. Once again, a personal opinion from a professed samsung lover

6. Oh yeah, enjoy your blurry fast pics. Haven't read a single review that spoke positively of that camera. In low light, I expect a slower shutter, it lets more light in. Does the nexus have a backlit sensor?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ferris2375:
Rezound is a bulky, gaudy looking phone.

/discussion
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
1. Excuses for the washed out screen....nice. I'm sorry but I'm not interested in a phone that I have to hold a certain way for it to look decent. Even straight on the colors are still somewhat washed out by the way.

2. lol probably more ergonomic? Probably not...that adds no ergonomic value. It's simply a design misstep.

3. Sense bogs down the system, period point blank end of discussion. And if you have to go through and freeze so much of it, then what's the point in having it?

4. Let me start by saying the verizon version can added via a flash just like the gsm version. No nfc is not immensely popular yet, but it will be catching on in 2012 as the ISIS system is due to launch in the first part of the year and more merchants will be adding paypass equipment. The amount of merchants is constantly growing as is. Like I said, I use it all the time. Unfortunately you won't be ;). Rezound owners will need a new device to take advantage of that because HTC was again purposely gimped a phone just so they can release the same phone again but this time with nfc. HTC loves the retread...

5. I never claimed to be a samsung lover. To be quite honest, htc was my favorite manufacturer for quite some time. I started with a wizard, then the mogul, then the htc touch, then touch pro, then touch pro 2, then nexus one, hd2, then evo, mytouch 4g, and sensation. I've had other phones in there also that weren't htc but htc had always been my favorite. This year I got fed up with htc's lack of emphasis on battery life and their continued releasing of retread devices. Also, their build quality has really gone down (screen separation, dust under the screen, power button issues, etc). Then add to that, the fact that they still have yet to learn to implement sense without bogging down the device. HTC has really fallen off IMO. But in the end, none of that has anything to do with my disdain for those christmas lights they decided to put on that phone.

6. No it doesn't hence why the noisier low light photos. I've stated before that the low light photos are noisier. Besides low light, I see no clear advantage. I personally prefer being able to capture my shot than to have a clearer low light shot. My son is 16 months old and he isn't going to hold still long enough for a slow shutter to capture him. 0 shutter lag has been a godsend for me, because in the past it has been VERY difficult to get pictures of him doing certain things.

If it works for you then that's great, but the red baron doesn't cut it for me. It's just another retread phone by htc that's really nothing special. The only thing it's got that sets it apart is CHRISTMAS LIGHTS :p .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ozymandiaz:
For something that is supposedly NOT up for debate, not only are you debating, but arguing about stuff that is mostly a matter of personal preference (ie, really up for debate!!) They are all great phones, get the one that fits your usage best, and you will be happy. I'm still on a single core phone, so I'll probably go in and pick up a nexus now that they're out on vzw, but if I changed my mind and got a rezound, or a razr, I'm sure I'd still be pretty happy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SquareBare:
I appreciate the Nexus / Rezound comparison, but I would take the Nexus for one specific reason:

I am sick unto death of third party interface customization. I think it is something that should have been phased out after Android's first year of existence.

Manufacturers should distinguish themselves via how well they adapt their existing hardware to the OS, not how many features and skins they think they can add to the OS.

I am done with having to root, unlock bootloaders, flash roms and clean up someone else's mess every time I get a new phone. It is almost 2012, ICS looks fantastic and we still have TouchWiz, Sense and MotoBlur for some insane reason.

It is just going to be nexus for me from here on out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cenwesi:
I am 10000% in agreement with you. I had the opportunity last year to get the Nexus S but didn't want it because it didn't have SD card. Waited for the G2x and what a waste of time. Now have the Sensation, nice phone but i will be getting rid of it soon. No more NONE Nexus phone for me and quite frankly i can care less now about if it only has 16/32gb but definitely the GSM version.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] platinumrims:
I also agree... Modding can be a pain and time consuming I would rather not do it at all... This is petty much the only reason I wanted to check the nexus out
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
Same here. Galaxy S II is already up for sale. It's a fantastic phone, but it can't compete with a pure ICS experience and the screen and LTE on this phone.

Get an extended battery and the battery life is just as good as the Galaxy S II on AT&T. My Galaxy Nexus was at 90% battery at 10am this morning (used it heavily before that). Since then it's been, generally, sitting on my desk with a few facebook, email, and SMS replies (maybe 20 times total). The battery is at 85%. That's 3 1/2 hours losing only 5%...and like I said I've replied to at least 20 different things.

And this is with LTE enabled.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AllGamer:
there's pure AOSP 4.0 already for SGS2 in case you didn't notice

it's not final but it's a working beta

also CM9 is already making its round on many devices SGS2 included

it even runs better on the SGS1 than it does on the Nexus S

it's like basically ICS running better on SGS2 than on GN
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BennyJr:
Stock gingerbread isnt very appealing. Maybe to us power users yes. but to the average consumer...gingerbread is boring. Now ics is a different story
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdafann:
100 % agreeing with you, especially coming from a SGS, I feel I'll be more at ease with my nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] devinhfox:
I agree with the screen, it's atrocious compared to my inc2. At Low brightness levels, it appears grainy and has some residual phosphorus-like burnin issues, especially visible when using the market.

Also, i really miss the 'search' button.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] crossover37:
There's a 4.0 Rom for the AT&T GSII?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RickInHouston:
Disappointed???

From Sprint Nexus S to GSM Galaxy Nexus on AT%T.

Data speed is SO MUCH FASTER! Geez, never realized how much Sprint blows (even their fake 4G).

I wish it was a smaller phone, love the form factor of the Nexus S. I think that phone form is perfect. Would love to see Samsung make a Nexus S2!

Battery life on my Galaxy Nexus is amazing, even better than my Nexus S. I thought with the giant screen battery life would suffer but it doesn't.

My biggest complaint is Ice Cream Sandwich is so much nicer than Gingerbread, but with one item that takes a big step back... contact photos. It's usually square in most items (contact list and text messaging) but when you display the full contact in the people app it is landscape at the top of the page and pixellated since it's so large. How did THAT get by the style police? And why is Google Wallet missing on the world GSM version???

I really, really like the phone but would love it if it was a tad smaller. This is the android version that only needs a tweak here and a tweak there and it will be perfect!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Matterhorn:
Why I like the GNexus:

First and very importantly is the fact that it is a "Google Development Phone". I've had the Nexus One for almost 3 years. I've watched all of the other "great" phones of that period rust away from no updates. The updates I got with my Nexus One breathed new life into it each time, while the other phones were stuck for months and sometimes forever with old and sometimes buggy operating systems. My Nexus One was always at the front of the pack until now with Ice Cream Sandwich. Sure, you can load other ROMs, but it becomes a job changing cooked ROMs all of the time, and there are bugs... I'm not against it, but I really appreciate getting OTA of the latest upgrades, for Joe Shmoe on the street, the GNex IS the best choice at the moment for this reason alone.

I bought the Nexus S, but I wasn't impressed. It did spontaneous resets and didn't seem much better than my Nexus One in performance. There was no notification light, which is so stupid! My confidence in Samsung was waning. I took it back.

Now...my GNexus hasn't done a spontaneous reset yet and overall it is a fantastic phone, lite, fast and beautiful. In the months to come, I wouldn't be surprised to see the GNex lead all other phones in the refinement of Ice Cream Sandwich, undoubtedly it needs plenty of refinement since it is totally new. Just like the Nexus One did with Gingerbread. I remember when my brother bought a brand new Thunderbolt, it wasn't even running Gingerbread and I had been running Gingerbread on my Nexus One for 2 or 3 months already, he hadn't had an update yet 6 months after that while I had had a couple of new Gingerbread updates. Verizon issued an update for the Thunderbolt and then repealed it because of bugs...great.

You can shave hairs about screen res, camera res, etc. all you want, I'm looking for a phone that is a good performer, will serve me well over time and be a worthy upgrade to my Nexus One. I think I've found it in the Galaxy Nexus.

I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that a year from now those who bought the GNex will be saying to all of their friends, "don't you have the new version yet?"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qman66:
ur crazy about the screen. this completely ****s on the sgs2 screen.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tylerdurdin:
Good job TKO......I agree with pretty much all your posts.....the other Verizon phones are just gimmicks......people can believe whatever they want.....but when you tear these things apart they are completely different animals. If people like the Rezound sweet......if you want a phone that just gets bragging rights (which I wouldn't buy one that didn't have some kind)......the nexus is king.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dwang:
For those complaining about choppy performance, wait for 4.0.3 to arrive on the galaxy nexus.

I just got the 4.0.3 update for my nexus s and they fixed all the performance issues with the previous versions.

I had 4.0.1 running on my nexus s and ran into the same performance issues as the galaxy nexus.

But now with 4.0.3, The verge (desktop) is now buttery smooth with no lag.

Martisphotography (full desktop) site is also buttery smooth fwiw.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cynikalJ:
So I know we all don't put much faith in benchmarks but over on Engadget they did benchmark the nexus against various phones including the rezound and for the sake of our arguments here the rezound beat the nexus in every benchmark except multithreading. When we get ics, we will own that too. So benchmark wise is the nexus better, I get with a rezounding result NO. But anyway it's a nice phone, but I like mine better
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stkiswr:
I do not own a galaxy nexus and do like all the new top tier phones but all the benchmark programs ARE NOT UPDATED TO ICS. At all. Look at quadrant. Last update....February.

I personally like the rezound, but love that nexus. I Jane had many HTC phones and recently went to a nexus s 4g. Prob only own a Nexus line from now own. Ics sense will be very nice though. Sense is extremely polished looking
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cynikalJ:
Yes I am interested to see what they do with sense for ics. Personally I wish they would leave it alone but I know that ain't gonna happen...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evilstewie23:
Dude did they have the rezound there by any chance. Only thing the nexus has over it is it has ics now but the rezound gets it early next year.