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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
I don't see any implicit insult, unless you're taking the "speculation with confidence" part personally.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] htowngator:
BGR hasn't done any "real" reporting for a very long time.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
Yes, it's not just repeats of the same thing anymore, it's a combination of some repeated info, along with some new info. The new info supports the Wifi delay theory. I guess the next big question is if Gamestop will still release.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skinien:
Discussions about facts are good. Rumors and speculation should be merged into one thread so that REAL information can easily be found.

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Yeah, I should have been more clear. A majority of people who get tablets, get them as media players and gaming devices. There are a smaller percentage of people who buy them for logical and practical reasons.

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Yes, I suggest these reads in this very same forum. Some of them have to do with the rumored wifi issue but they're still interesting and don't have dozens of pages about release dates/cancelled orders/pre-orders, etc.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1388541

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1369271

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1379616

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1388613

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1388547

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1388284

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1380007
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Would you say the sh$& has hit the fan now? worldwide paranoia and pandemonium..lol. Regardless of these new threads, I still feel confident in the 19th release date from gsmestop. Plus there was a YouTube vid. Comparing wifi to original transformer and galaxy tab. There was hardly none to very minimal difference in signal strength. This wifi issue is way overhyped unless Canadian batch is the worst performing of all. Meaning worse than what vids. Showed. Even still, a lot more percentage report no issues with wifi compared to those with them. The a lot more meaning other major reviewers, people on YouTube, and members here with device already in possession and Asus themselves. Still no official word from Asus saying wifi problems exist. They came out and denied the delay and wifi rumors. .

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There is no big question, as this is not a world wide issue. GameStop already said release is still on track for 19th and hasn't heard of any delay due to wifi issues. This is confirmed by me, I called yesterday n asked and several other members WHO do have pre orders with GameStop already. Some gamestops already have them in stock in the back just waiting for the 19th to release.

So no matter how bad you want this prime launch to fail, due to exaggerated rumors n such, a good number of us with pre orders, especially from GameStop, will have device in hand come next week. [crossing fingers]

All this wifi delay conspiracy theories Is getting out of control. It's obvious now. Repeat threads of same rehashed b.s. There is no new info except Asus came out n said already, there is no delay and no issues. Now just because engadget and others got info late, doesn't mean Asus has to answer to them immediately. The Verge n I think PCmagazine already beat them to the punch. That's why engadget had to update it's so called news flash several times. They released they were late finding out n looking kinda dumb right now with their conflicting stories..lmao
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xGary:
To this point, it is pretty much confirmed that there was indeed a Wifi issue at some point. However, we do not know how it has affected or will affect the release date/stock. Maybe the December 19 date is already the "delayed" date or maybe we have a lower amount of stock now due to that problem and that is why some people reported getting delay emails.

I received an email for ASUS PR stating "Based on the information I currently have available the Eee Pad Transformer Prime is still shipping this month. I cannot comment on rumors until we are able to verify the validity of the report". You can see that they aren't completely slamming the rumour yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
You need to read all of the posts here (I mean, if you want to keep up with this thing; nobody NEEDS to read all of the posts here to survive). Adorama and Frys have both said that ASUS told them shipments are delayed because of the wifi issue.

Someone posted in the Frys thread (I'm too tied up at the moment to link) what I'm calling the grand unifying theory of this whole mess: ASUS cancelled shipments to all but their major B&M retailers Gamestop and Best Buy because of wifi issues with some percentage of units, and pulled out good units from the available inventory and are giving that stock to those two.

Hence, they're still, technically speaking, shipping by the 19th, just like they said. Only, they're shipping in much smaller quantities and via far fewer retailers. That's the only theory that fits all of the information we have so far.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
This is the new stuff for today that I have come across so far:

Today - Frys

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20238914&postcount=40

Frys just called to ruin my day!! The rep stated that they just received word from ASUS that there is a delay due to a WiFi issue. They will not be getting them until the last week of December or early January.

Today - Adorama

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20239475&postcount=31

The latest update I have, is that, according to the manufacturer, the WiFi range on the TF201 did not meet their quality standards, and they will be implementing a new solution to improve the WiFi.

At this time their delivery schedule is still uncertain.

Today - NCIX

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20240562&postcount=29

I have the email from the VP of Asus in my inbox and I can assure you it will be delayed, we're just unsure how long.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeptikal:
It should be mentioned that both Adorama and Frys came late to the party taking preorders. I get the feeling Amazon, Canada(yeah the whole country, unfortunately), and late-comer preorder sites are getting short-changed while the 19th is still valid for early Newegg, in-store Gamestop, early GS, early BB and a few other original preorder sites. Just m opinion. I have nothing but hours of reading and deducing to go off of.

edit:// Sorry I just reread your post and I basically said almost the exact same thing as you...lol. Add me to the list of nonsense-posting offenders. ;) (As if I wasn't already on that list)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
At least you post your speculation as if it is speculation. That is good. And you don't post outright fabrication. That is even better.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Unless we work for ASUS, and even then in the right departments and with the required authority, everything we say is speculation. That's a given, and hardly needs stating.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
In general I agree, and this is not directed at you, but an example comment like "Only an extremely tiny percentage of people have problems" is speculation, borderline fabrication, that gets thrown around here. It's different than saying something like "my guess is a small number of units..", which would be clearly speculation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Ok, but most of this stems from Canada or companies coming late into the game doing pre orders. GameStop n others still on track for release. Just because Candace shipment gonna be delayed, doesn't mean U.S. Supplies will. Like I said before those that were delayed could possibly have been sent bad batch. As far as we know, u.s. Shipment is perfectly fine with no issues. Still majority of people/reviewers with prime in hand said no issue with wifi. This means that there's isolated incidents where it could be possible of defects in devices. Like the so called NCIX guy say VP of Asus emailed him...lol come on now...they heard it thru the grapevine like all of all.

I'm not denying there could possibly be a wifi issue, what I am denying is that this effects all devices and all shipments. That's what I've been trying to differentiate. People been a summing just because Canada got delayed , means the whole world delayed now. All I care about is my GameStop preorder. GameStop been saying all along release still on track for 19th n no delays. I called n check the one I preordered at. One thing is clear, this is out of control and Asus needs to make another statement/press release telling everyone what's really going onl. I know us preorders only account for a small percentage but you want a good start and a great finish. All this b.s. Is spreading so fast it's becoming to seem like fact. I cant wait till I get my device, no wifi issues, and be laughing at those still conspiring on defects. Lol. Soon I'll be posting from my transformer Prime! This sh$& better drop next Monday! Lmfao

P.s. Ectoplasmic, don't take anything personal or be offended if my comments towards some of your posts come off as harsh. I just want my new device, with no issues. I think we can all agree, Asus is a Mofo and needs to address the concerns at hand. No beating around the bush. Just tell us straight up what's going on. I'm glad I wasn't part of first Transformer release..n I heard it was worse than this SMH

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Ok, this could possibly be directed at me. It is true though. Those that reported wifi issues very limited. More people have reported not having any problems than those that have. Of course the negative will get more press cuz it makes for more news. If you add up number of major reviewers saying they had problems with wifi vs. Number that stated no issues, that latter will be the majority. That's all I'm saying. Just because a few had problems, doesn't mean everyone did. You even have reviewers posting youtube vids comparing wifi and the difference is very minimal. No real life loss in performance. Only made a big deal cuz we over analyzing it. Just like the world now, only bad news gets the most attention. All people want to see or hear on the news is about negativity, disappointment, etc.. Nothing wrong with being optimistic, in spite of bad news, rumors, or facts thrown around. As long as people aren't ignorant to the possibility, it's ok to hope for the best outcome. Not be a Debbie downer every time you hear some bad news ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
Also, like I have been posting for a while, a lot of these websites are looking at others getting news from them and updating there site with the exact same article's. That means the new "rumors" spread like wildfire on the web, and it makes it sound true, but they are still rumors. What readers can do is look at the info given and see if they are basing their news off another report someone else has already reported on, true or not. These wifi articles are truly spreading from one site to another and being based on one article and everyone here is sourcing every website's article in a new thread.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blackinjun:
Cant believe this thread is still alive, there goes another 2 mins.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CoolWaters:
i.e., we may not have them on the 19th, or we may have them a few days before the 19th, or even earlier, or perhaps later. Trust me, I have an email saying this. Sorta. The 19th is definitely wrong. Maybe.

Jesus. A woman had to draft that email.

Likely scenario:

The TFP had an early Dec release date

Wifi issue was discovered

Asus immediately got on it

Asus informed retailers at some point the release date would be pushed back

Asus gave priority to some large retailers (BB, etc) and a Dec 19 date

Asus is delivering the priority retailers initial preorder supplies on 12-19

The companies reporting indefinite delays are correct ... with regard to their stock only

and ... most people here have a mild case of estrogen toxicity.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
That ship has sailed. Early purchasers in Taiwan reported it, reviewer's units randomly had it, Asus Canada said it was an issue in an e-mail to a reseller, and Asus U.S. gave it as a reason to Fry's and Adorama for delaying shipment to them. The above is fact, not rumor.

So now the question is:

1) Was it an entire early batch that had to be taken out of the pipeline for modification? That would explain why some but not all retailers were notified of a delay. It would also mean all those built after a specific date would be fine. That doesn't bode well for early units received by GameStop. It also doesn't jive with the delay being "until a solution is found" which was said to resellers in both Canada and the U.S.

2) Is it random and affecting X out X units? If so, that would mean each produced unit would have to be checked and either released for sale or modified. That too would explain why some resellers may get inventory and others not as, once caught, all units produced after a certain date should be fine. Those that have early inventory would either have to check the units themselves or more likely send them back to Asus to be checked and repackaged. If this is the case, resellers like GameStop and BB could potentially return the stock they received early.

3) Asus found the Wi-Fi issue causing them to pull and modify a ton of units produced and waiting for shipping. All units that were shipped, including the early GameStop units, passed a second QC and are fine. This means inventory will be scarce until built units are modified, repackaged, and shipped to resellers. For the glass half-full people this is the ideal scenario but it doesn't jive with the timeline or the fact reviewers probably got units from the same batches shipped early to GameStop.

It's got to be one of the above. If Asus thinks there's a problem with already shipped units they'll ask that they not be sold but returned instead. And Gamestop won't want to deal with the expense of knowingly selling (potentially) defective merchandise and have it all returned or exchanged.

I guess the question everyone needs to ask themselves is:

1) Would you rather get it now with a potential Wi-Fi issue and then have to either return it for repair or exchange it?

2) Wait until Asus gets the problem fully corrected and know the unit you will be receiving will perform as intended?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] new2q9c:
This comment, really?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Well Engadget updated again. They said they heard back from Asus and confirmed devices still being released the 19th.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeptikal:
This part...well put. This is my belief as well...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CandyNJ66:
Are you kidding me? Seriously? I'm a woman and other females are on this forum. Holy smoke, you really take the cake
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CoolWaters:
Lighten up Sally.

I kid - really. Please take very little I say seriously.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SwissyChief:
Oh and btw the email is from a dude... haha. And if you're gonna throw in the race card as well, he has a very "white sounding" last name ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CoolWaters:
Then again, your level of histrionics could be seen as confirming the stereotype I was making a joke about.

Just sayin'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_DQpZippWc
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
That's the part that is strange. Asus knows or should know how many units they can produce a week. Based on orders that need to be filled, they should be able to prioritize and estimate when units will be shipped. So something's left them unsure of how steadily they can produce units or there's stuff they still need to do in order to get to a predictable build rate. I'm guessing this ambiguity is what caused Amazon to pull the plug. Regardless, stuff like this is typically discovered much earlier in the process and not a couple of weeks prior to launch. Especially when the original launch date was supposed to have already occured.

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Saying "confirming the stereotype" in the same sentance as "I was making a joke" kind of diminishes the latter. If you read the TOU for the site, your original comments are a violation - intended humor or not.

Just Say'n
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
I hope my newegg order ships :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CandyNJ66:
You are responsible for the misogynist comment not me and I see another person took exception to your comment as well
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
I'm referring to the gamestop here where I live.The prime had no problem connecting to the wifi what so ever.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CoolWaters:
Misogynist? Me? Au Contraire. I love women.

Here: I'm sorry. I truly didn't mean to offend your sensibilities.

Back to the baseless falling sky that is the possibility of a tablet being delayed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ultradsa:
Silly Engadget...did they kill all the comments on that attention seeking article or is it just me? At least they did post a follow up directly in the title...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
Did you notice that their update said "the week of the 19th." That's a new one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blackinjun:
ok here goes another 2 minutes. I have personally heard from the president of ASUS Taiwan. The ASUS Transformer Prime TF201 will ship. So everyone can stop worrying.

Edit

Okay sorry. Its just that even though I am probably older than most here, I have to believe that one company and the internet cannot cause this many people to go flippy. It's kind of like my son who almost lost it today until I told him that if he asks one more time for a xmas present early that I would postpone his presents for one extra month everytime he asks. He looked at me in shock then laughed and said okay, he's 10, no offense

2nd edit

You know what it's a general forum and some of you have 499+ on the hook... vent away
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
By 5pm EST standard time, 25 mins after the op's first post there was already an update to this article by engadget stating they will ship in the US on the 19th....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] arcticreaver:
seems like Best Buy had the release date correct all along - Dec. 18th. which is a Sunday, 19th is Monday.

another week of waiting. all good.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Star Shadow:
How about the Transformer Prime? :D With the squad Core you could read two books at a time. :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Angel7777:
Instead of making me more hyped about getting the prime all of these rumors are making me not want the prime. I have always liked asus they made it possible for me to get quality products for less when I just didn't have money but I'm really worrying about the prime now.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] adiliyo:
man, a squad core tablet would be so useful!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Star Shadow:
Remember folks, the wording is the week of the 19th. That means anytime between Monday the 19th and Saturday the 24th. It does not really mean it will definitely ship on the 19th. It it is later in the week, then you will not have it before Christmas.

It could also mean that Asus is shipping to retailers sometime that week as well. If that's the case then it may not be until long after Christmas that it arrives on your doorstep or pick it up in store.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
My gamestop already claims they have them in stock and sitting in there back room ready for me to pick it up on the 19th
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Which one? Woodbridge one hasn't gotten them in yet. At least when I checked yesterday evening. They said 19th. Still date of release though. Will these gamestops carry any cases for it? I'm still amazed at how thin this tablet is. Im a tall guy n have big hands. Feels like I might accidently crush it..lmfao
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blackinjun:
Yeah, chillum said that crystal city may carry them
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blaziner18:
im wondering, even though futureshop.ca has sold out as well as staples.ca

could i go down to my local staples and see if i could just preorder from the store?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
The one at Pentagon City Mall. That's what they claim when I asked them.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jptech:
I saw them in my gamestop's locked cabinet when I asked about the bluetooth gamepad they bundle with it. I'm in Miami though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blackinjun:
No she only has the regular one now. They aren't sure when the shipment for the prime will get there
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] forceOnature:
The GameStop I called today in Atlanta says they are not taking pre orders for the Prime because shipment was delayed and it was taken out of the system.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
Which gamestop in Atlanta did you call because the one I pre-ordered mine at says it'll be there on the 19th.....& so will I.?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] effingnewguy:
Lawrenceville Hwy Gamestop told me that the Lennox Gamestop is the only one that stocks tablets in Atlanta.

I haven't called them to ask because I'm still holding onto my amazon pre-order but my next call would be to that Lennox store.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] nextelbuddy:
i went to GameStop in Duluth about 2 weeks ago and pre ordered (they were a NON TABLET store) and paid in full.

found out GameStop mall of GA was a tablet store and had the Prime on display .

went to the MOG gamestop the same day and told them my story and they called Duluth gamestop and had my pre ordered transferred to them because only Tablet gamestops were getting them on the 19th and that store was not goint to get just one for me.

im glad i went there and had my pre order transferred.

i asked that same day does this mean i will get one and he told me as long as supplies come in as expected then yes. they had not fulfilled their pre order slots at that time they advised.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeptikal:
You, as far as I know, are the first person on this forum to say that any Gamestop claims a delay. Which GS in Atlanta said this. Can somebody from there call and verify? Thanks. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
I just called them and they said they are still good to go for the 19th and have them a few already in stock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
That's not true.The mall of Georgia is the only tablet store in Atlanta & as far as I know is the only location that actually has a Prime on display. However gamestop's website lists 4 places that you could pre-order from.I pre-ordered at the Lennox location. The Lennox location has already stopped taking pre-orders.

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This guy lied to you.Gamestop's website clearly lists 4 locations that you could've pre-ordered from.I ordered from a gamestop that doesn't have a Prime on display. As far as ordering from the gamestop in Duluth was a bad idea because they're not even listed to sell it lol.I myself had to drive a long way just to pre-order.

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Which one did you call because I just called one & they say they're getting it on the 19th & even taking pre-orders now!! Wtf.I was told last week they weren't taking anymore. I'm thinking some people have canceled their order.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
I did my pre-order at the Pentagon City Mall in VA.
[HTC EVO 3D] caseyatbt:
Nevermind......
[HTC EVO 3D] Notorious:
Removed
[Optimus One, P500, V General] bigbdroid:
Does anybody know where I can get an app to monitor who is using my mobile hotspot?