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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kbilly70:
The BBB is basically a scam. They don't have any legal authority or oversight over how a business operates. They are funded by the very businesses they report on. Go to their website and look up AT&T. AT&T receives a B rating. They list over 19,000 complaints lodged against AT&T with only a handful unresolved or not closed. Once you start looking into the ratings of those businesses who participate with the BBB and those who don't, it's pretty compelling.

I think the governor's office of each state is a good place to start, and probably the state attorney generals office as well. As you say, something needs to be done.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] chibixzero:
I compleately agree on the whole bbb. Maybe someone here with better understanding on how to start and send a letter to our state attorney and maybe our state governor
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] coduyen:
Sorry to get off topic, but is Att throttling smartphone beside the iPhone? I was at a restaurant and my device got 4 bars. I was trying to browse youtube videos and my device was super slow. My friend on the other hand was using his iPhone 4 and it didn't seem to slow down like me. By the way I barely use 1 gig a month and I am on the unlimited data plan.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] clor01:
You should try out different modems and see what is best for your area.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Captain Zero:
@coduyen, even as suggested, there are no modems that I've tested that would drop you to 2G speeds. It sounds like throttled speeds. Getting throttled is the only way to drop that low, especially with 4 bars. Do some more testing and if it's still slow, call the bastards.

Sent from my Galaxy II.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Skv012a:
I still marvel at how you guys go even over 2GB a month.... 10 or 30 is A LOT of pr0n on the go. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mawells787:
Last month i didn't get a notice until i hit 6gb, today i hit 1.5gb and i just got a text, that im approaching 5%.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ack154:
So I just read through (most of) this thread and the first thing that comes to mind is TMobile. They specifically call out "Unlimited Data" as an offering - but then specifically say that it is only 2GB (or whatever the plan is) at "high speed" and then the rest is throttled to 2G speeds.

Sounds like AT&T is doing pretty much the same thing (except being a bit less obvious about the cut-off). But rather than compare how much data you're using, why not compare WHAT data you're using. I've seen that come up in a number of threads. So it is more likely that if you're doing nothing but watching Netflix or streaming video at peak times, you'd be throttled before someone doing something less intensive.

But the thing is, as long as they're giving you as much data as you can use - regardless of how fast, they're still giving you "Unlimited Data."

The lawsuit talk is just hilarious though... keep that up. I love reading it...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] coduyen:
My sgs2 doesn't have a problem with the modem. In my neighborhood, I am able to get consistent speed of 300 to 500Kb/s (3 to 5Mbit) download speed. I just find it weird that in a different part of town, the iPhone was getting bandwidth priority. I was wondering if that is the case for everybody else.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rsxelrate:
This is ridiculous.

1. I never noticed much deviation in speed when there was no talk of throttling. Even with me downloading constantly, there was no real degradation in speed. I call BS on network congestion.

2. Why throttle to 2G speeds? Are we back in the early 00s? Why not throttle to something still usable, even 40kbps! @(#*$& Right now I'm getting 10kbps after being throttled. Throttling to 2G speeds is unacceptable and unusable.

I'm contemplating switching somewhere, but there's no unlimited data anywhere anymore. Clear internet is unlimited, but then I have another piece of hardware to carry around. (@#*&@(#*&%()@#*%&

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Just submitted a complaint at the FCC. I encourage everyone to do the same.

http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] losincas:
I agree, united we stand. Class-action all the way.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] losincas:
I filled my FCC complaint. AT&T punks need to be horsewhip and shot after they been spit on and stepped on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] RockRatt:
I filled it out also. It cant hurt to do so.

Sent From My KickAss ATT SGS2 SPORTING CM7
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] chibixzero:
file mine too
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mysuperphone:
same thing happened to me, last month i was using about 5.5gb and this month when i hit close to 1.5gb they sent me a txt saying that i'm approaching top 5% :eek: i say that's pure BS! and i'm 20 days into my monthly bill.

say if i use about 750mb every 10 days, so 30 days for me this month, i'm only using around 3gb per month..that's not heavy usage. AT&T is pure bs!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] brent8577:
You are all free to toss your sims and bills, sell your phones, and switch. I left VZW because they kept breaking my data and lied about when I could upgrade. Sure, they put an etf on and sent it to collections, but none of that matters. Its just more junk mail. I'm about to remind att of my student discount by applying it myself. There are always choices. It is America!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twiggums:
lol don't care much about your credit rating i take it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Captain Zero:
Since you're a student, might I suggest you enroll in an economics class or even a personal finance class.

Otherwise, you'll quickly discover that you don't screw the man, the man screws you.

Sent from my Galaxy II.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] brent8577:
I'm sure i will take those classes eventually. No, I don't care about my credit. I care about right and wrong. I don't pay imaginary debts. Verizon voided my contract when their networks went down without crediting my bill, and telling me I can upgrade Mar 31, then Nov 30. I feel bad for you if you live your life paying everyone off and bending over for strangers
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kletiz:
With that kind of attitude I hope you have a lot of cash on hand...oh and when you start looking for a job when you graduate, a lot of companies will run a credit check on you as their hiring process. I'd pay the bill dude ...not worth it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] GalaxyMaster:
Anything on your credit report can easily be removed simply by writing a letter of dispute to the credit agency that has the negative report. The credit agency then notifies the company that they have 30 days to respond to your dispute. After 30 days if the company does not respond it is removed from your credit. Most large companies can't do anything in 30 days. I had 7 negative items removed from mine 2 months before i bought a house. Don't get played by the man, be the man!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twiggums:
have fun explaining that logic to a bank when it's time to take out a loan :-). Unfortunately they care about those "imaginary debts". It's loads easier to ruin your credit than it is to fix it!

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Sorry but if you're advocating that people just let things goto collections and not worry, well that's just horrible advice. Anyone with messed up credit knows it's no walk in the park to get it fixed. If you're billed incorrectly somewhere then get it fixed before it gets placed with an agency, it's alot easier than waiting till it's ruining your credit and trying to get it fixed afterwards.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bobsjakalw:
I'm being throttled back. It took 11min to watch the 1min 43sec register video.

One thing I didn't see in this thread is the fact that there is a finite amount of time in a month. When ATT throttles back your download speeds there is only so much data you can receive. That is limiting an unlimited plan. Especially when others in your area can receive faster speeds. And that is discriminatory.

Unlimited is as much data you WANT to receive in the time available within ATT's system. They have chosen to limit this data stream, making it a now limited data plan.

You follow?

btw it isn't just prOn that takes data. Netfix will due it too. In the last 15 months I have averaged 14.3 Gigs a month. After talking to ATT today they clearly stated that the top 5% will be punished. So when all have been throttled back to 2Gigs there will still be a top 5% subject to punishment.

Think on that a bit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Longcat14:
Submitted to the FCC. They have to start putting pressure on AT&T soon..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ItsJono:
Okay, so I understand that AT&T bases the Data Caps based on the area you're in...

but what I don't understand is how they determine, "area".

The area I live? The area and cell phone tower my phone is connected to? The state? What? lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] andy7g:
So maybe AT&T check every 10 days and punish those on the top 5%. That explains why you are throttled after 10G in one month and then 2G in another month. So eventually everybody will get throttled to under 2G? Nice AT&T!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zitoccr:
2068 mb and received the message, last month I used less than that.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 it's amazing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
I know you guys are all mad about this, but you're definitely fighting a losing battle. ATT is getting rid of unlimited data hence why you have to use the grandfather option to get it. I pay for comcast and it's my primary internet now. If you guys want real internet, just pay for it and stop using your phone as a heavy traffic user.

And for those saying "well I don't get internet where I live so I have to use my phone's cellular signal" - I have an answer - Move. Several guys at work are in this position but they knew full well that moving in to BFE they'd have these issues. I live in the city thus I get good internet - it's a trade-off I suppose.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bobsjakalw:
Move? Really? That is your answer to the situation. LOL

I think your missing the point. ATT oversold a product, and can no longer deliver the goods. So they are willing to sell out or renege on a deal with many who have in good faith used their phones as they were told they could. Whether they want to admit it or not. They have changed the terms of an agreement.

I asked to leave my plan because of it and I can't without penalties. This is just one more thing a big company will do to the little guy.

Poor underhanded business is all it is.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ack154:
What was your data used for? Netflix? Streaming music? "Unofficial" tethering?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zitoccr:
Sometimes I stream some music but not to much.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 it's amazing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bobsjakalw:
95% Netfix. I work on the water for a week at a time. My phone IS my only entertainment. There is no Wifi, it is how I justify it's expense. Otherwise I wouldn't need a smart phone.

I was assured that I could, and I quote "use it 24/7/365 online" while under the UNLIMITED plan.

I have never tethered or jailbreak or any other use against ATT's guidelines. I have been with ATT since the brick phone era.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
I've got unlimited now but I don't have any use for it. I still only use 1gb - 1.5gb per month because I tend to use my home wifi for most of it just because its 10x faster.

Some day mobile companies will get a hint and try to compete with monopolies like Comcast.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] cpenticuff:
Just a few things to say... and a couple questions:

Has anyone been throttled without being notified? I ask because my data completely crapped out today. Attempting to load anything more data intensive than the Google homepage resulted in a time out. I stayed within a few miles of home today, but I'm sure that I ventured far enough to be on multiple towers, so I doubt it was a tower issue. Also, my wife's Infuse and my old Captivate, which I am loaning to a friend, were both working fine. I have used 1.6 gigs of data thus far this billing cycle, and have the 4 gig tethering plan.

Once throttled, is there anything on the AT&T website account that lists you as being throttled?

I have to wonder how they determine the "area." I have the 4 gig tethering plan because I travel to a few other cities for work and use tethering for internet on my laptop. I use a decent amount of data for Pandora while driving around town, but most of my data is used while working across 2-3 different "areas."

If my "area" is considered to be the town I live in... we have very good 3g service here. Smart phones, while gaining popularity, haven't caught on as much as in larger cities. Basically what I am saying is that there really isn't a bandwidth problem. It concerns me that I could potentially be throttled for using a relatively small amount of data (less than 50% of what I am paying for) in an area which, as it currently stands, runs virtually no risk of becoming congested.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twiggums:
If you're not on an unlimited plan you shouldn't get throttled, if you go over they just charge per GB.i'm guessing the area you were in just had some issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] clrana9017:
I call BS about that "location-dependent" 5% thing because I'm from New York City as in Manhattan and I got throttled right at 2GB. This annoys me so much, especially because I love Google Music.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bobsjakalw:
If I am following this correctly. You can have as many Gigs as you like if you switch to a lower plan and pay through the nose for it.

Wait a minute. I thought this was about congestion. Not making more money.

ATT is swimming in so much BS the EPA should fine them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
That is a very good point. Staying on a 2gb teired plan and hitting that limit only results in a fee of $10/per 1gb(?). I don't think they throttle this plan, they just throttle your wallet LOL.. get it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] WIZARDfan:
I called at&t when my speed got throttled at 2 gb and they mentioned this sentence in the contract that AT&T has right to deny or modify the type of service u get at any point in time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] KentuckyHouse:
This isn't true. I'm grandfathered into unlimited, but there were TONS of reports on MacRumors about people that switched to the 4S and got a "4S Unlimited Plan". These weren't people that were grandfathered in, either. I'm on this plan, even though I now use my SGSII most of the time and not my 4S (although the plan changes back and forth between "Smartphone Unlimited" and "4S Unlimited" depending on what phone I'm using).

I've seen it mentioned a couple of times, but I'm wondering if AT&T is as aggressive throttling those with iPhones as they are throttling non-iPhone users? We all know how Apple has been known to use strong arm tactics in the past, so what if they're putting pressure on AT&T to give iPhone users more leeway?

If so, that's crap and completely unfair to those that choose to go with a phone other than the iPhone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] parsa5:
Thats possible but both my brother and i got the same text and he is using a 4s.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Bobsjakalw:
Exactly!!!

But now that they have Modified the terms, they are obligated to release me from my contract. Unless of course I agree to the modifications. They vehemently refused.

These parasites have no souls.

btw, I have the iphone 4. This isn't Just against none iphone users.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Heeeedzzzzz:
Hey, new member, been using the forum for info for a while.

Just got that text from them early last week. I just got throttled to .5mb tonight with 3-4 bars of HSPA. Sunday night when the power was out with the same amount of reception, I could not access firedispatch.com (I am Vol Firefighter) when I was not able to catch the address. I have a feeling this may become very intrusive to this. I don't remember signing anything that said they could modify and I have not signed anything about data in my recent contract update while I kept the unlimited. Also checking my last month's usage I was just at 2Gbs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] WIZARDfan:
Seems like we r all expressing our frustration towards att but can anything be done?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twiggums:
Well I know of i'm dissatisfied with a product or service I bring it to the attention of the manufacturer or service provider. I would hope others are doing the same :-).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LiLChris06:
Just got this...

This is my 2nd message in over 5 years of tethering (started when the Razer v3xx released).

The first message they actually removed my unlimited which was early this year and I did live chat and they gave it back to me instantly without a problem.

Funny thing is I have gone extreme on usage in the past like 25gb+ several times and they never bother me but when I go 5gb after being very calm with usage (1gb for 3-5 months) they message me now. :confused:

I think I am ok with throttling compared to before where they would remove your unlimited plan all together, of course I wouldn't want either if I had the choice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] KentuckyHouse:
Since we're on the subject of throttling and talking data, I have a question maybe someone can answer concerning apps using data...specifically the Calculator. (I didn't think this warranted it's own thread).

I'm using the app Traffic Monitor to keep tabs on my data usage, and when looking through the list of how much data each app has used so far this month I noticed one of the bigger offenders is the stock Calculator. What???

It's actually used the 2nd most OTA (3G) data of any app besides Boat Browser. How can this be??? Why would the calculator need to use ANY data when you're doing simple math on the phone? Surely it doesn't have to hit the network in order to do calculations...right?

Boat Browser has used 37.32 MB so far this month...the Calculator has used 23.92 MB! Please, if someone can explain this, I'm all ears. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] coduyen:
Is there any Ads in this application? Sometime free Apps have Ads.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] demon9206:
The stock calculator doesn't have ads.

Perhaps the phone sends off the calculations off to be done remotely? Lol, that would be rediculous. I have no clue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] s1mpd1ddy:
Hi All -

I'm coming from the Atrix forums... noone seems to really care about throttling (YET!) over there so I went to find other ATT users having my issues.

Basically -- I live in the Boston area, and I got throttled at/or around 10gb. I had a VERY interesting conversation with a rep in the "high data usage" department for ATT.

She informed me what you guys already know.. yes they throttle at 5%. The data that they use determine this comes from ONLY unlimited data plan users. And each market has it's own set of data that ATT uses to determine who is in the 5%.

She also added that they do not know the data usage for each market as they do not have access to that information but that the "national average is 2gb." Of course she said that, you hear it all the time!

The most interesting part of the conversation came at the end --- she informed me that the number I called (which was given to me by an online rep) is for the "high data usage" group at the ATT Customer Service center. It's a specialized group that were trained in how to respond and react to customers who are high data users.

She informed me that this special group will be disbanded at the end of FEBRUARY because they will not be needed anymore. What she hinted was that this could mean the Data Throttling will end by than because then LTE would be in full effect all across the country.

She could not confirm this, but she believed it to be true.

So.. we'll see in February how this goes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] getbuzzin:
Or it could mean that at&t finally figured out a legal way to get everyone off the unlimited plan and won't need that special group anymore.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nucleartx:
Data overages are a cash cow, they won't let that go. So I would assume they will change the rules such as if you are considered a top 5%, then you be released from contract or switched to tiered. It would be better for them as a business decision to drop the "data hogs" than allow them to continue on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] getbuzzin:
If AT&T would offer 4GB tiered plan for $30 for current unlimited customer I would switch in a heartbeat.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rquinn19:
A page back a guy posted something in regards to what was the person doing to get throttled: streaming music, watching netflix and unofficial tethering. Now that my phone has replaced my tablet completely I don't tether (that was back when I had Sprint anyways and they could care less if I did tether). as far as streaming music and video, isn't that part of their advertising and promoting of their data plans and phones?? Why is there a need for LTE? So attwireless.com can load a millisecond faster? Just ranting on how anyone could be on ATT's side in this arguement. At the very least they should tell us at what point we would be getting throttled. If I can only use 2GB and then get throttled why would I pay the extra $$?

And to the guy above about Feb...they probably figure by then any high data users that would call in have done so by now so that special dept isn't needed anymore. After all there isn't any new customers that would be getting throttled.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jaydeol:
how about if every one used much data as they can specially towards end of Billing cycle that would raise the data cap or average data used for the too 5%
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] cpenticuff:
I can assure you that LTE will not be in "full effect" until much later than February. Also, even when most heavily populated areas are covered by LTE, it will be months before a significant portion of the residents in those areas have LTE enabled phones. Sure, AT&T has finally been approved to purchase the unused 700 MHz spectrum for use by LTE, but February is a pretty unrealistic goal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] s1mpd1ddy:
Att sucks man..... But I need gsm, i cant stand cdma with no options. I'm gonna keep pushing this data, even if throttled. It'll just take forevvveerrrrr

Sent from my CM7 Atrix
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tkienzle:
Just seen a 4gb plan with tethering on there website the other day for 45 bucks.

sent from interspace on my hacked telly...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
I'd love to hear some numbers of total data used by people that have been throttled... after the fact that is. Were you throttled and still able to use in excess of 10/20/30GB's??

I'm a very small data user with slow speeds as it is, but usage might be changing soon. Still on a gf'd unlmtd plan.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mkosmo:
Why can't you stand cdma? From a consumer standpoint you really can't tell the difference unless you like to regularly switch devices.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] twiggums:
International travelers prefer GSM I think. As well CDMA doesn't support data and voice simultaneously that I know of.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] s1mpd1ddy:
Exactly, i like switching devices and having more options then just being limited by my carriers. International travel a big thing too.

Sent from my CM7 Atrix
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] WIZARDfan:
I am only 32 weeks in my billinng cycle and my speed got slowed at 2 gb. How the hack would I survive for rest of the bill cycle having LTE phone and speed is even slower than 2g. I hate u at&t.