yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iondokk:
If you are on ICS with FB15 or FB17 with a recovery you can use the zip in the OP to upgrade your kernel.

For those that are flashing ICS fresh outa the box you will not have a rogue recovery any longer so you have to use Odin. You cannot flash a kernel in the same session as a ROM you have to flash your favorite ICS ROM then the modem of choice and then you Odin the kernel of your choice. I recomend you spend the $5.00 and use Odin mobile and you will not get the pesky yellow triangle... It is also cheaper than a phone after a brick with ROM manager.

Hope this helps clear up the confusion!

Samsung Epic Touch 4G

(ROM) Callk's FB21 ICS

(KERNEL) Rogue FB21 (Odin mobile)

(THEME) NONE

(MOD) Exchange swap

(MODEM) FB21
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] meatwadathf:
I don't understand what all this aversion to Rom Manger is... I know the claims of claims of bricks, but personally have not seen a claim directly related to rom manager myself... Care to share a link or two?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
Yup! Bricks a lot of times are user error.. If they cant read the op and understand it then there is no hope lol.. Mobile odin is your best friend.. Had yellow triangle since the e4gt came out until ics leaks.. Used mobile odin and yellow triangle gone.. Plus it auto roots your phone so even flashing a stock non rooted rom will still have root. So you can flash the modems.. Or in this case rogues fb21 kernel :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pyrostic:
Or happen while testing unreleased development roms.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] huskerpat:
The problem was doing a factory restore from a fake flashed touch recovery.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] meatwadathf:
Right, but there is nothing wrong with the regular cwm recovery from rom manager (atleast as a temporary measure when used to flash the rogue kernel).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
I use ROM manager. I choose the second option which is boot into recovery console (I don't install nor select s2). I use calks wipe all for eg4g, then manually wipe cache, then davlik, then flash away.

I don't like yellow triangles, dealing with jigs, or connecting to computers. I'm sure mobile Odin is great, but it just seems to new for my blood right now.

Sent from self nominated "A" team member's phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] meatwadathf:
What's this A team thing about? I've seen a B team and a Z team signature.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] latinmaxima:
It's anyone else's build still Fb17?

Dicho por el ICS EPIC Touch de latinmaxima
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
I don't get the B team or Z team. Frankly, they don't make sense.

I'm just A team member ;)

Sent from self nominated "A" team member's phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Exactly. Some like to think its all user error but sometimes it takes bricks to test out new stuff.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iondokk:
I have found that if you take it upon yourself to explain something in these forums, it pays to assume that whoever reads your post MAY be an inexperienced flasher. So I find it best to use the most reliable ways to execute a task. So with the likleyhood that someone will touch off the touch option in ROM manager I feel more confident in suggesting Mobil Odin. "So easy even a noob can do it!"

I've had a few close calls with ROM manager on the EVO4G and nothing with Mobil Odin.

Sorry if I offended any ROM manager fans...

Samsung Epic Touch 4G

(ROM) Callk's FB21 ICS

(KERNEL) Rogue FB21 (Odin mobile)

(THEME) NONE

(MOD) Exchange swap

(MODEM) FB21
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] meatwadathf:
No offence taken. Was just wondering about ur reasoning. Very clear now. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the clarification.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jamesey:
No offense here either and you're right. I've seen Odin bricks too. The bottom line is the more you flash the higher your risk. If your not willing to deal with the time researching and understanding then you should not be flashing

Sent from self nominated "A" team member's phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] latinmaxima:
No one can say what their build number is? Glad we have 16 people verifying how to flash at least

Dicho por el ICS EPIC Touch de latinmaxima
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
My build number is IML74K.FB21

I found the best way to flash ICS is to use ODIN tar file from this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1516176

Once booted to system install CWM recovery via Rom Manager.

Download and copy to your sdcard any ICS rom zip file of your choice, boot to recovery via rom manager (second option in the list) and flash rom in recovery.

Did flash back and fort between GB and ICS whole week and never had any problems.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] latinmaxima:
I have used zip file as well as mobile Odin and my build refuses to change. May just try again after a full wipe or will wait to see if fb24 gets leaked. The phone is working great inn the meantime. Thanks agat!

Dicho por el ICS EPIC Touch de latinmaxima
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] roqstarmatt:
Can we add boot animations now??
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
You can also use the Auto Root package (sticky post and in my sig) to install a CWM that is persistent (and tested with the kernel you are installing). Just use Option D. Also makes it simpler to swap between different kernels to see if one performs better than another.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] interloper:
Thank you steady hawkin!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rickyq12:
Hey man, choosing Option D will not trigger the yellow triangle neither, right?

Odin is the only way to trigger the yellow triangle, correct?

Just making sure bro.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
That is correct. It will not trigger the yellow triangle nor will it increase your flash count. If you install a stock kernel using the auto root package, it will actually get rid of your yellow triangle.

The way you get the yellow triangle is if you use ODIN to flash a kernel that was not signed by Samsung. Effectively for most people that means if they use ODIN to flash CWM (which needs to be packed into the kernel on this platform)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JimSmith94:
(I posted this question on the download link post on the Android.Net Forum, but it probably won't get read.)

I've downloaded the file in the OP a couple times over a couple days, and both times the file name is Rogue_ET-Stock-EL1.1.cwr.zip, not 1.1.2. Also the date on the files in the zip are 12-14-2011, which is newer than 12-13-2011 when you uploaded it. I'm confused! :confused:

Is that the right 1.1.2 kernel/recovery file or did you upload the wrong one?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] interloper:
Well, Mr Smith, if that IS your real name and not some kind of spy name, or maybe you sir are from the MATRIX, I can tell you I flashed this kernel against all good sense and ended up with a big warm pile of "it flashed just fine and the version number was indeed update in the phones properties to EL13 and the CWM version was also updated." So, go on, take the plunge man, red pill, blue pill...RED PILL!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JimSmith94:
Thanks for the confirmation, and yes Smith IS my real name. My dad told me that everyone used to be a Smith until they screwed up and had to change their name! :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vanberge:
I do have the same thing going on here; my Rogue recovery says 1.1.2 instead of what is listed in the OP.

But it is an EL13 so meh

--Edit---

I mean in the changelog post - it lists Rogue as 1.2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maddoggin:
thats because the recovery and the kernel are two different things. the recovery which he has modified and made into his own is version 1.1.2 and the kernel that his recovery is built into is version EL13. so thats why its posted in op stock kernel version "el13" with rogue recovery version "1.1.2". hope this helps!

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hey hawk any plans to make kernel with no bootanimation support, one that keeps the stock bootanimation? im missing this recovery but i hate that it forces me to use a bootanimation.zip.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
I can understand why he asked and it is a valid point. Quadrants help us compare using a similar standard.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] andrewqueen:
nevermind found out how
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JT man:
can someone make tar for odin stuck on samsung screen was trying install twrp2.0
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Steady Hawkin:
See post #33.....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
+1 that would be a great option.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nibrwr:
+2

Sent from my ___________.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] NewYorkLaw:
If I install this over Desperado, will I retain all the other goodness and lose CIQ?

Will I lose anything?

Pete
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maddoggin:
Hawk? Please! +1million! Thanks for all your hard work! Would be great if you made a kernel with int.d support and keeps stock boot animation. There's not allot of bootanimations for our phone to begin with anyways! Thanks man!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Steady Hawkin:
Ok guys, I'll get you dialed in. Did you want no bootanimation support on this or the Desperado kernel? I'll up it as soon as its ready.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
This one please. And thanks a million. Truly love this recovery!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maddoggin:
thank you sir! awesome! recovery!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nibrwr:
Excellent, thanks!

Sent from my ___________.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Steady Hawkin:
You guys do know you can delete the bootanimations and it will default to android correct? That's what i always do...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] crawrj:
We want to be able to use the stock qmg. Not the default android boot animation.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tramane:
I haven't tried the newest version of the kernel. But what I can say is that I received "Kernel Panic Download Mode" about six times.

It said it was copying a log. Who do I need to get that log too?

I couldn't even flash another ROM. I had to Odin back to stock
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rickyq12:
Appreciate you confirming this for me(us)...

and also, thanks for creating such a cool tool for us to use.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mdcarter67:
I got the same error twice yesterday when my battery dropped below 5%. I held the power button until it shut off, recharged the battery and it booted fine. Didn't see the error again until battery went below 5% again. I'm not sure what "Kernel Panic Download Mode" is or what it does, but i don't seem to be having any problems as a result of it.

I'm on FB21 version of kernel, never had the issue on any other version.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dchibro:
Can anyone help me understand the boot animation thing?

Ok so, the stock Samsung ROM and kernel uses their proprietary .qmg files for the boot animation. So, am I right in saying that SH's addition of boot animation support into the kernel is what breaks the boot animation on a stock ROM? In other words, something also needs to be included in the ROM to look for the bootanimation.zip? I just checked my FB21 ROM folders and noticed there's a bootanimation.zip file included in the /system/media folder (well sanim.zip that points to "bootanimation" .. I really don't understand the relationship between sanim.zip and bootanimation.zip). I don't really know how it got there unless Calk added it to the stock ROM?

Anyhoo, I guess I'm trying to understand the relationship between the kernel and ROM with boot animations. Someone asking for the stock Sprint E4GT boot animation got me thinking about this.

Edit - Well in digging around a bit I'm guessing the bootanimation binary file included in the ROM handles pulling and running the animation file. I'm guessing this is where ROM devs make edits to look for a bootanimation.zip and/or sanim.zip to run and the location of the file, and I'd guess the stock ROM looks for the .qmg files. I still don't understand the role the kernel plays in this, but I'll keep digging. I don't know why this interests me lol. I guess I just want to have a better understanding of what affects what.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thatdudepoops:
Wrong, voodoolouder works fine and it works on all of his kernels for ics...so far

Sent from the future
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] aaron130:
I got a question. I've NEVER been able to restore any of my backups. I backed up my GB rom to try ICS and when I try to restore my old GB rom it just forever stays on checking MD5 sums. I've restored to stock GB first and it still won't work. Anyone know why this is happening? It's not the first time either even going from a new GB to old GB it still didn't work.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] aaron130:
Nevermind, I think I just never waited long enough for it to start. Don't remember it taking that long on my old HTC devices, lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] klbjr:
Can this kernel be over/under clocked?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nibrwr:
I underclock it with SetCPU on CM9
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
It can't be overclocked. Tegrak doesn't work for our ICS kernels yet.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Calkulin:
The kernel is what decides what file to use to show the bootanimation, stock uses the samsungani binary(looks for a qmg file) & SH uses the standard bootanimation binary(looks for a zip file)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dchibro:
Awesome thanks Calk. So, I guess the bootanimation binary then needs to be modified to look for the bootanimation.zip in the proper location? Would this be why on stock FB21 why having a bootanimation.zip in /system/media still results in a blank boot screen?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mdcarter67:
CUSTOM version?

sorry, wrong thread
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Calkulin:
I just pointed out to SH the reason that his latest kernels are having issues booting up after wiping, so once he corrects it, I can go back to using his custom kernel in my ROM

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The binary is hardcoded with the location/name of the file it needs to display the bootanimation, I just haven't looked at the init.rc for this kernel to see what's causing the issue. So if anyone is running the FB21 repacked kernel, please pull and post the init.rc so I can look at it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mijjah74:
Just remove the .zip at the end.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
Calk, are you planning to add your themed icons to your FB21 ICS? I apologize if I'm asking this in the wrong section.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Steady Hawkin:
BIG thanks to Calkulin for the fix for the "no boot" when /data is wiped! We are going to test and assuming its good to go, we will then release the fix hopefully soon. In the meantime hopefully we can get the bootanimation squared away as well ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Calkulin:
No problem and also please don't forget to remake the Gunslinger kernel with the fix(& new recovery ;) ) so I can finally start including it again with my ROM

P.S. You also might want to check the permissions to that folder because I can't remember if it was the default 775

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Wrong thread but yes I have a ICS ROM almost done
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dchibro:
Nice! Thanks for the collaboration guys! I'd imagine this boot issue has been frustrating.

Edit - this recent chain of posts reminded me that some folks around these parts are due some hard earned donations.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Steady Hawkin:
Fix for bootloop issue that occurs while wiping is up. I strongly urge all of you who run our kernel repacks to upgrade to FB21 rev2.

HUGE thanks to Calkulin for helping us get this bug squashed, we owe you one bro :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Will of fire:
I flashed the newest and I still get the black screen after the gs2 logo. Just letting you know steady.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MJHawaii:
That makes two of us I am getting the black screen too and I flashed this with Odin and ROM Mangler zip when all else failed and I cannot get rogue recovery at all the only way was ROM Mangler I tried re downloads full wipes back to stock you name it so I am lost now any ideas steady?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Will of fire:
I got recovery I still have the black screen though
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bigsc:
I don't think this was supposed to fix the black screen, just the no boot after full wipe issue

Edit:... also, this zip failed to flash for me.. (status 7) I'm guessing it needs to be flashed from a stock recovery, or I just got a bad download

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] neudof:
What should it say under kernel after flashing 1.1?

Sent from my ICS'ed out SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Admiral2145:
under volt

not sure but, is this kernel undervolted like hitman 1.5? and or can we flash one of calk's undervolt zips?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Evil_4Genius:
Boot loop had me crazy last night! Didn't have internet access to find a fix so after everything I just used Odin to install the Lost Kernel then flashed Calk's EL29 2.8 that I fortunately still had on my PC. Thank God. I was falling apart.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fastfreddy7:
Ok, so I'm checking through all of the FB21 threads, and I cant seem to find the answer. Is it now safe to flash an FB21 rom and Kernel through CWM? Will you still lose recovery? I can copy the 2 zips to my sd, wipe all, flash the rom, then flash fb21 rev 2? Im dying to try it out, but scared to go the odin route right now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nibrwr:
I flashed Fb21 from FB15 in CWM. Worked like a champ
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fastfreddy7:
Ok, but say Im running Blendz EL29?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] NORCALkID:
No need to read the entire thread ... the OP specifically states ICS roms only
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fastfreddy7:
I understand that, but If I want to upgrade from an EL29 rom, and move to ICS, can I now do this safely through CWM? Flash the rom, then flash FB21 rev 2 through CWM, reboot, and will I then still have recovery?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] T13190:
Yes this is exactly how I did it and it works without a hitch. Good luck!

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Yes if you flash both during the same session in CWM you will still have recovery. If you ever lose recovery then you can just use ODIN it is very easy.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fastfreddy7:
Awesome, thank you, this is the simple reply I was looking for. Running a backup right now, and then its finally on to ICS!! One more quick question, once you converted over, were you able to restore to a backup to the EL29 rom? Say I dont like the ICS rom, I have bugs or whatever, will it flash back to the back up with no problems?

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Ok, so I backed up, did a full wipe, flashed caulkulins fb21 stock rooted, then tried to flash rogue fb21 rev 2, and I got an installation aborted twice in a row when trying to flash the kernel. Restoring from back up right now, going to try re-downloading the kernel, copying it to sd card, then doing the whole process over again, any ideas if I still get installation aborted when trying to flash the kernel?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Flash the kernel in Odin.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BigJPNut:
Flash fb21 rom, reboot, and then odin kernel....works flawlessly
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fastfreddy7:
Ok, so can someone point me to a how to for using odin to flash the kernel? This is why I was hoping to be able to just flash it through CWM, I have never used odin before...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nibrwr:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1391959
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yourm0m1:
you could always wait for calkulin to build his custom rom which im sure will have a kernel with cwm

but im still curious why everyone is afraid to use rom manager :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] evoholik:
I've used rom manager many times to push cwm recovery using at&t galaxy s2 selection. Then boot into recovery then flash fb21 kernel no problems at all.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agentfazexx:
Updated to rev2 from the original 1.2.1 FB21 kernel, and I'm getting TONS of random reboots...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jfcooley:
Updated through Mobile Odin. No issues under heavy usage.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kobridge:
Thanks Steady!

On the ICS rom for past 4 ~ 5 days and patched with new Kernel last night. No issues at all. If system frequently reboots, maybe we need to check that in application level. I've seen some apps are not going well with ICS rom and some worked fine after upgraded to most recent version.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Specialksg1:
Any idea if rev 2 will flash the new CM9?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rickyq12:
Man, you should really get familiar with ODIN...it's a great tool.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fastfreddy7:
Yeah, I did, and I got everything running correctly now, enjoying some Ice Cream Sandwich goodness! Was super easy, once I figured ODIN out. Now, does anyone know how to set contacts so that it pulls the facebook photos as the contact photo? This is one little thing that drives me nuts!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Google got mad at Facebook because they won't use the correct API to build their app so Google broke the Facebook sync you now have to use app from market to do it ....I don't know which one because Facebook blows and I don't care about using it ...Google plus ftw
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fastfreddy7:
Yeah, I would use google + if any of my friends actually used it... Does anyone know the app he's talking about?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
I looked but don't have ics on here right now so it won't show in my market search the forum here there are threads about it ...sorry
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.mots.haxsync
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cjwaggsrx8:
yeah just tried... didnt turn out so good.. dont do it.!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Specialksg1:
Damn, well, thanks for trying while I was too busy with this whole "work" thing. you end up in a boot loop? Hopefully nothing more catostrophic than that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Steady Hawkin:
Strange...I flashed FB21 rev2 over Alpha 4 via mobile odin and its working great....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cjwaggsrx8:
Yeah i did it through cwm. Nothing terrible just kept getting force closes of everything like every 2 seconds..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Steady Hawkin:
We are going to have to make some changes to accommodate CM9 Alpha 4. For now I would only use mobile odin to flash FB21 rev2 because I can confirm that works.

If you do flash using regular Odin or CWM and run into FC issues, just wipe cache and dalvik cache and reflash Alpha 4 and gapps.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agentfazexx:
I guess I am stuck on stock ROM's then...sucks that there isn't a CWM kernel out for a CM9 ROM...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sportsplayer5959:
I have noticed that you are unable to install apps to internal storage or sd card when you are on this recovery. Tested a variety of different things and this kernel/recovery is definately the cause
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fastfreddy7:
Thanks, I found a free one, works well, but you have to do each contact individually, which sucks. May just buy the one you posted and be done with it. Thanks again.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gerald410:
So far that combo FB21 rev2/Alpha 4 is golden. Thx Steady!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Friendcaster works good for syncing contacts to your phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cjwaggsrx8:
Mobile Odin ftw!! Thanks guys working awesome.. however.. if u wipe cache / dalvik .. results are android force close until u flash the rom again.. twice I might add!! I know steady is gonna work it out soon though ...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Anyone can help me to find source for ICS kernel.

I would like to take my shot on it.

Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] anthony92170:
I notice this as well there is a fix: remove zimage from from take zimage from steady and replace and then u have cwn and install apps.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] master acehole:
Steady fb27 lives http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1524472
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Steady Hawkin:
Sorry fellas, going to be a while until anything new drops from us. I just joined brix city this evening :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] agat63:
Wow!!

How did you manage that?