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[Nova Launcher] bala_gamer:
been using apex launcher till now, switching now to nova... :) looks much better than apex in terms of functionality. i feel the app drawer is not as smooth as apex any suggestions?
[Nova Launcher] nikulogical:
Change scroll and animation to fast.
[Nova Launcher] frenccw:
I think once the dev merges the Jelly Bean code it will be more buttery. It is in process
[Nova Launcher] bala_gamer:
lets hope it happen soon :) btw how is the theme support ? all the themes for apex , g and adw are compatible with nova right?
[Nova Launcher] latino147:
What kind of JB code would that be? Apart from the new features? Do you need to add code to activate certain new libraries?

Isn't the 'butter-effect' something that's handled by the OS itself? I would guess it's not needed to update apps to make use of some new API?
[Nova Launcher] frenccw:
Hmm. Can't really comment but i've tried just one theme and its quite iffy. Me and the theme dev tried to fix it but I gave up and just changed the icons manually (have to live with an un-themed app drawer) Let's see what others say on this

I'm no expert but I have read reviews saying that some apps do not feel buttery yet because they are not optimized to Jelly Bean. I experience this with certain apps such as Whatsapp (which is by no means taxing on cpu or gpu) where it feels very jittery when scrolling messages. I'm using Galaxy Nexus btw.
[Nova Launcher] latino147:
I guess the problem with Whatsapp is that it is always busy reloading the contact pictures, it doesn't keep them in memory (probably to use less of it, running as a service)
[Nova Launcher] Mathias1:
Sometimes, when I tap an icon on one screen, it opens an app that is on the 2nd homescreen..almost as if the screen was overlayed.

Anyone seen this?
[Nova Launcher] killian32:
I have successfully imported a theme from Go Launcher :)
[Nova Launcher] frenccw:
I understand that part, but i'm talking about scrolling the messages themselves ie. in the chat with a person/group. The first JB nova build will answer our questions :cowboy:
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
That won't be anything to do with Nova, or any other launcher, Whatsapp probably isn't set to enable hardware acceleration as outlined here http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/hardware-accel.html
[Nova Launcher] brunodmjr:
It would be nice to have page indicators in the app drawer!
[Nova Launcher] barrist:
Maybe they're planning to make us pay for the JB update?
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
Apex have just released a beta with JB features, so now it's just Nova falling behind.
[Nova Launcher] dmonzel:
Don't be ridiculous. Comments like that are

so rude.

Falling behind? If you look back a handful of pages, you'll see that Kevin is in the process of ironing out bugs so that we end users will have the best experience possible. One thing I know from using Kevin's apps is that he wants us to have the best of the best, not some rush job that is broken. Whining about it will not make it appear faster.
[Nova Launcher] TheInVisibleGoD:
I think you misunderstood his point... Sure they are independent from each other, he is just waiting to see if the jb code injection to nova will make it more "buttery", if that's the case, so would be also the case to whatsapp when they inject the jb code too.
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
There's no JB code to inject into Whatsapp, applications can already support hardware acceleration, but the application has to specify in its manifest file if it supports it or not, otherwise Android won't enable hardware acceleration for that app. Whatsapp doesn't specify supporting hardware acceleration in its manifest. I already sent an email to the devs to request they support hardware acceleration in Whatsapp.
[Nova Launcher] barrist:
Lol take it easy pal.

Anyway, Nova as is, is working fine and fast for me. I honestly thought JB was already ported in anyway.
[Nova Launcher] frenccw:
Nova has a JB beta too, just that it's private. Either way there has been times where Nova was ahead of Apex and vice versa so there's no reason to compare.

Thanks for the info. Whatsapp seems to be always lagging in development. Interface still extremely outdated :eek:
[Nova Launcher] bala_gamer:
yup exactly, it should be mentioned in the manifest file.
[Nova Launcher] scottjb:
I started to experience widgets not updating. Odd, first time I noticed it since I purchased Prime a few weeks ago. This is on a Moto Razr Maxx, Android 4.0.4, stock rooted.
[Nova Launcher] JettMartinez:
I was having the same problem, I cleared data for the app, then manually set everything back up. Seems to be working fine for the moment.
[Nova Launcher] jjhiza:
I just have to say this... Butter is a food product, not an app or ROM feature people. For anyone worried about the "buttery" feel of apps (even this one)... Smoothness isn't just something you can add to an app, and make a device more responsive. Project Butter was designed for higher end devices, which have both the GPU and CPU capabilities needed to realize the software changes. Just because you run JB on a Thunderbolt, Droid 3, or HTC Sensation (just examples...not knocking those phones), doesn't mean you have the adequate hardware to implement the software changes presented by Project Butter. Simply updating API or merging bits of code, to support a new OS, doesn't mean your going to see any benefits. Example: try using Nova on the OG Droid, and you'll still get lag, because the phone doesn't have the hardware needed to run ICS or JB correctly. Sorry to go off on this rant, but I feel as though the concept of "buttery" is being blown way out of proportion, and I would hate to see anyone disappointed by an app's performance, and blame it on bugs or bad coding, simply because their device isn't suited to implement the changes.

Galaxy Nexus - Liquid JB v2 Beta 1
[Nova Launcher] frenccw:
Haha did you really need to explain the first sentence :P I think we are just speculating what the JB build of nova would do. The first things that come into mind are "butter", auto moving widgets/shortcuts, and fling to delete. On my G.Nex swapping between app drawer tabs still produces jitter, even though a lot of things that used to jitter everywhere else in OS seems to be fixed/improved on JB. So it's not unusual for people to presume that there might be a difference when the JB Nova is released. (without knowing the coding/technical side of things)

I'm actually looking forward to having tab groups as folders rather than having JB features (since they don't add functionality per se). Fingers crossed.
[Nova Launcher] jjhiza:
Lol, I just had to get that out of my system. :p Overall, I agree with you... we are both in a position (owning a Nexus) to reap the benefits of all the extra coding, but some other people may not be. It just seems that people across the forums (not just this thread) are expecting dramatic increases in app performance, as a result of them being updated or merged to function well on JB... That simply isn't the case. Like I said, I see a few people here, who have mounting expectations about better performance, when their device may not truly benefit from all the changes. :p

Galaxy Nexus - Liquid JB v2 Beta 1
[Nova Launcher] eighty-four:
Tryed this launcher, but it appears to have same problem as latest Apex. It appears with phone UI on tablet. Is there any way to switch it?

And there is also a bug with icons. All of them appears oversized and blurred. And grid size is limited maximum to 7.
[Nova Launcher] killian32:
Still having problem with "freezed" widget. Everything is fine when I reboot.

Here is my logcat (I hope that I did everything right in order to get it).
[Nova Launcher] jjhiza:
Well honestly, that's not a Launcher problem at all. The fact that you're running in Tablet mode (like 162 dpi), makes any launcher question a bit irrelevant. Have you tried the launcher at the stock density? That may solve your "problem" with the icons (might be hdpi or xhdpi... I don't know what phone you have) not sizing and not looking right. In my experience, using ROMs with lowered dpi, my launchers never look right, so I switch back to the stock density...

Galaxy Nexus - Liquid JB v2 Beta 1
[Nova Launcher] eighty-four:
I suppose you are referring to blured oversized icons. It's stock 4.0.3 firmware, stock density - 213dpi.

Stock launcher

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6501/111344.0/0_7a150_4db15537_orig

Nova

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6601/111344.0/0_7a151_f70646af_orig
[Nova Launcher] Solidus_n313:
FYI after rocking nova on JB for HTC sensation, widgets do not automatically slide out of the way like in stock launcher.

any way to mimic this effect in the next update?
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
The next version of Nova is based on the Android 4.1.1 launcher so will include that feature, we just have no idea when the next version of Nova is going to be made available.
[Nova Launcher] modmyphone:
Me personally, I care less about JB features and just wish to be able to run my device in tablet ui like in the previous versions rather than this landscape mode I'm stuck with now.
[Nova Launcher] jjhiza:
Hmmm, interesting. I wonder what device Kevin uses for testing. I know that stock density on the Nexus is 320, and if this launcher is built off of the stock one, then the scaling may be on 320 dpi as well. I'm sure Kevin will look into it.

Galaxy Nexus - Liquid JB v2 Beta 1
[Nova Launcher] blackhand1001:
If animator duration in development options of jellybean is set to none the animations are not applied regardless of which speed setting is set in nova. It should be independent of the speed set for animator duration. This happened when rebasing it on the jellybean launcher.

To test what I mean, set animator duration to off and restart nova launcher. None of the animations are used even if you manually set the speed to on in the options. I like animator off but I don't like that it kills the app drawer animation and a few other launcher related animations.
[Nova Launcher] scottjb:
Thanks, I will try this.
[Nova Launcher] Cor-master:
Apex launcher

Nova

What gives? Where is tablet mode? I prefer nova to apex but I went to third party launchers because the gigantic phone launcher on the nexus 7 sucks. Can we get an option to switch to it in settings?
[Nova Launcher] tierix:
Thanks a lot for your reply.

I do have to restart Nova several times a day though!

Examples:

- I have "Extended Controls" app. I placed the widget of some controls on my Homescreen. At the bottom of each of the controls, I have a green bar to tell me if they are ON or OFF. Most of the time, the green bar doesn't change when I toggle the controls, I have to restart Nova first. REALLY annoying

- I have some widgets that change every day or every hour, these don't change automatically as they were with ADW, I have to restart Nova too.

Anyone else experiences a lot of issues too with widgets? It's too annoying to have to restart like 3, 4 times a day, I'll need to swtich to another launcher if this is not fixed.

thnx
[Nova Launcher] unwired:
+1

I paid for Nova Launcher Prime one day before 1.2.2 was released, but now it's almost useless on my 7" Lenovo A1. Please bring back the small app drawer icon in the upper right corner! :crying:
[Nova Launcher] Cor-master:
Yeah nova is fast and buttery smooth but just don't care for gigantic phone launchers on my tablet
[Nova Launcher] scuba156:
Unless you change the dpi to enable the nexus 7 to run in tablet mode then nova won't run in tablet mode either. This is the way the hybrid ui works
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
Been a week since the private beta hit, how long do these things tend to stay private before allowing the public to test?

Kevin hasn't been active on the forums since the 12th of July, so I wonder what he's actually doing. With the amount of money he's made off of Widget Locker and Nova Launcher, an update or more communication would be nice.

Though I know I'm going to get flamed for this post, but oh well.
[Nova Launcher] frenccw:
Until its ready. It's not certain that Kevin will release public betas. He usually does not do this from Widgetlocker and he only did it during the later stages of the ICS versions (because presumably its a stable enough platform already)

He has stated that WL and Nova is his full time job, so one would assume that he's working on it. Million dollar corporations won't say a single thing to you so i dont understand why you feel that this sole developer is obliged to do so? Also, Kevin has been one of the more interactive and helpful developers on xda for YEARS.

Please understand JB is new to everyone, including developers. Be patient.
[Nova Launcher] Cor-master:
Umm yeah well Apex recognizes it as a tablet. I really don't see why they can't just put an option to switch modes regardless of the device.
[Nova Launcher] scuba156:
because i believe apex's algorithm to check which ui to use is different. Hybrid ui is only something that is new to JB, give it time
[Nova Launcher] dmonzel:
That poor kitten.
[Nova Launcher] PollPixx:
Not sure where some people come from, but in the world I live in, it is holiday season, even devs need to have a break nowadays, so he might be with his family now having a beer... I am sure he will release something new when he thinks it's more or less bug free.

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[Nova Launcher] pkelly517:
Entitlement of the masses is more important than relaxation of the devs.

Someone wants his $4 worth!
[Nova Launcher] Cor-master:
The developers don't owe me a thing. I was just a bit annoyed tablet mode doesn't work on my nexus 7 but it's not my launcher I'm not going to make any demands.
[Nova Launcher] apisfires:
You are right, but you must not forget, everyone entitled with respect, if you pay 4 dollar, you will got 4 dollar service.. Just wait, if don't have patience better use another launcher, if dev release too soon without doing it properly, you will be angry anyway,, so just go play another thing for time being, flying kite maybe.
[Nova Launcher] Shadow-Nexus:
Is that beautiful Widgets? If so what skin is it?
[Nova Launcher] modmyphone:
Tablet mode on the Note is 213 DPI. On previous versions, Nova switched into tablet mode. With the latest version it continues to run in phone mode. I've taken it down to 142 DPI looking for tablet mode and have only found that Nova doesn't like 142 or lower responding with lots of FC's,
[Nova Launcher] Cor-master:
Yes it is :) its called ics-like, and I'm using jelly bean weather skins which is why the weather looks that way
[Nova Launcher] scuba156:
On the note or nexus 7? I'm running nova just fine in tablet mode at 160dpi on my nexus 7. 142 dpi sounds pretty low, although i have no experience with the note.

adb pushed from my nexus 7
[Nova Launcher] jayjay3333:
Oh relax and enjoy the summer.
[Nova Launcher] modmyphone:
Note. I run 192 standard and on the latest Nova ignores it and still runs phone mode. Whatever he did to accommodate the Nexus 7, screwed tablet mode at least on the Note. I haven't fired up any other devices to see if its Note specific or not. Hopefully it will be back to normal in the next update.
[Nova Launcher] Cor-master:
If it's not broke why fix it? Does anyone really like the gigantic pos phone default launcher Google came up with while drinking whiskey and designing the nexus 7? Instead of dpi this dpi that yadda yadda yadda just undo whatever you did to make the changes! Who even cares about the jelly bean features so apps move out of the way now, who freaking cares.

Just a request and feedback. Not a complaint. The brutal truth

I know the developers are just trying to keep the ui up to date but Google made a big mistake here. I absolutely loathe the default launcher, it's like why did they even ever bother making honeycomb if they were just going to ditch all that an take jelly bean back to gingerbread?
[Nova Launcher] dmonzel:
I actually like the Nexus 7 layout. IMO it feels right for a smaller tablet.

From what I've gathered, though, anything 10"+ will have the HC/ICS tablet layout. So expect to see that on the Xoom when they get that push (if they haven't already).
[Nova Launcher] kcls:
They have, and from pictures I've seen, its honeycomb/ics tablet mode.
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
Considering I just had to move every single icon off to another home screen just to add a widget then move all the icons back again, I do. With Jelly Bean features I would have just added the widget and dragged it where I wanted it and the icons would have moved out of the way all on their own.
[Nova Launcher] Cor-master:
Well whatever, it's looking like Apex might not be fully updated to Jelly bean yet so probably going to loose my friggen tablet ui on that too.

Request: can we just have a mode selector? Basically a menu in the launcher setting with 2 mode choices: phone/tablet? Would just make things easier and solve everyone's problem.
[Nova Launcher] Red_Vex:
I'm a buyer of widgetlocker and the nova prime.

I'd like to see "bounce" effect between transition like apex launcher.

Is it possible?

Also infinite scrool in app drawer.

PS app drawer load time when reboot is way toooooooooooooooo long :(
[Nova Launcher] latino147:
Just out of curiosity: In this topic it's always a discussion about Nova vs Apex. But what about Go Launcher? Why is nobody mentioning it?

I played with it on somebodies S3 and it was full of options and performed fairly fast. Yet nobody here positions it against Nova :)
[Nova Launcher] cxdz810:
Go Launcher 3.12, have gone heavy weight, a lot of options, additional prebundled programs, tools, maybe usefull, maybe not, it have lost speed and karma...

Keep it simple and fast - take Nova..
[Nova Launcher] schrochem:
There are other launchers besides nova?

;)
[Nova Launcher] Red_Vex:
Yes i am agree..too many shop/useless/feature and always based on old gingerbread. No widget in app drawer
[Nova Launcher] TecQuality:
Teslaunread doesn't works properly with CM10. Someone have noticed? :)

Sent from my Taptalked GT-I9300 using Jelly Bean
[Nova Launcher] XlAfbk:
working fine here

Edit: actually it's working only in drawer, broken in dock
[Nova Launcher] mbirth:
The only problem I have is that it doesn't work with Priority Inbox and shows the overall unread messages count instead.
[Nova Launcher] Red_Vex:
I found a bug:

Sometimes in settings the various options became untouchable.

It is not responding to touch. The entire page.

Happens in home settings and effect settings.

I must hit back and make a few tries :rolleyes:
[Nova Launcher] shaneydroid:
Just tried the latest version again on my Nexus 7 and it seems even smoother than it was before. Unfortunately, the horrible blue outlines around the home screens are still there on N7.

Installed on my phone with ICS and no outlines so it seems this does only affect Nexus 7 after all :(
[Nova Launcher] mchu6am4:
Infinite dock scroll is already available?
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
What I'd like is infinite scroll in the app drawer and perhaps widgets in the app drawer the same way the stock launcher/Apex handles them
[Nova Launcher] maniac2403:
Infinite scroll would be nice, but I can live without it. Widget in app drawer is already present.
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
That's my bad the option should be updated to state that it requires Jelly Bean, root or system app, either that or just work by default on Jelly Bean.
[Nova Launcher] XlAfbk:
it does state that?! "Widgets in drawer - Requires root permissions or system-app"
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
Except it doesn't require either of those if you're running Jelly Bean, which it doesn't state in the app itself.
[Nova Launcher] frenccw:
I'm just wondering, it seems that you have reiterated few times here that you desire Apex features to be implemented in Nova. Is there any reason why you are not using Apex as your default launcher?
[Nova Launcher] e_rl:
The developers should implement more user interface features. Allow dock backgrounds, launcher styling (besides just background opacity and theme color), etc..
[Nova Launcher] jjhiza:
Dock backgrounds have been discussed for a little while now, but I'm not sure about the extra UI elements (what kind of added features are you looking for?). With the fairly quick transition from ICS to JB, Kevin has had his hands full, simply trying to merge major, existing features. He's also reiterated his desire to keep the launcher light, while still allowing for customization; adding extra (and possibly unnecessary) features, may end up making the launcher really resource heavy, and sluggish, which is something many people do not want to see. I would suggest using the User Voice forum (link in the OP) to request some of the changes you're interested in. :)

Galaxy Nexus - Liquid JB beta 1
[Nova Launcher] Red_Vex:
I used apex till yesterday.

Then with the new update beta it keep crashing.

So i bought nova prime.
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
I already paid for Nova, but mainly because I don't find the latest beta of Apex to be as smooth as Nova when scrolling between home screens.
[Nova Launcher] tierix:
Am I the only one to have to restart NOVA like all the time because of widget issues? They don't update correctly, especially the ones who are supposed to update themselves everyday or so like doctionnary (I should see a new word every day, it doesn't update unless I restart NOVA). It's extremely annoying! I don't have that issue with ADW Launcher
[Nova Launcher] Piccles:
Widgets are auto updating fine for me...have you tried removing and readding the widget?
[Nova Launcher] tierix:
Thnx for your reply. I unfortunately did try that yes. No success.

I wonder if it has something to do with my custom ROM then, Criskelo ROM....

Does anyone has the Criskelo ROM on ICS and using NOVA Launcher please?
[Nova Launcher] Broken Hope:
Don't think it's an issue with Nova, I have no issues with widgets updating.
[Nova Launcher] Piccles:
It might be the way your ROM is playing with Nova...(considering ADW is working for you). Not sure what device you're using, but have you considered a CyanogenMod ROM?
[Nova Launcher] tierix:
If no one has the same issue, I'd probably be better asking my question in the ROM thread! lol

@StorminGooner: I have a SGS3 with ICS 4.0.4. No I haven't tried CyanogenMOD yet. Is it an ICS based one? I'll try to find it on this forum. Thnx
[Nova Launcher] killian32:
Same problem here with SG2 on stock ROM.

I've posted logcat too.
[Nova Launcher] BobbaLouie:
This is similar to the JB issues recently where widgets were getting installed into a different folder and disappearing on reboots. twa_priv has a very nice JB ROM and I had this issue. He eventually noticed this and discovered it has been recently fixed by Google in the latest Play Store. I realize you are on an ICS ROM but the fix for us in JB land was to uninstall/reinstall the affected widgets after this new version of Play Store was pushed.

Perhaps you could test the affected widgets to see if this is a similar issue?
[Nova Launcher] Piccles:
CM9 is based on ICS http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1714354

and CM10 on JB http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1779426

I guarantee you will not miss Touchwiz...
[Nova Launcher] tierix:
I certainly will. Thanks. I just need to uninstall the widget right? As opposed to the whole app...
[Nova Launcher] PollPixx:
Same phone using omega v11 rom, no problems at all.

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[Nova Launcher] BobbaLouie:
Uninstall the entire app.
[Nova Launcher] TecQuality:
I got an issue with the activity widget, i can't put it onto the screen, i'm using cm10.
[Nova Launcher] kevin@TeslaCoil:
Now in public beta

1.3beta3 August 7 2012

Merge jellybean launcher

* Automatic desktop rearrangement

* Automatic widget resize

* Fling to delete

* Smoother

* More

Import settings from other launchers (Stock, Samsung, HTC, Moto, Trebuchet, Apex)

Custom Drawer grid size

Add Info/Uninstall to quick menu, better centering and scrolling

Update JB Icon Theme for Moto ICS

Fix FCs
[Nova Launcher] chikimonke:
Running great, so smooth and love the grid size in the drawer now. Great update.
[Nova Launcher] TecQuality:
Nice upgrade, just a little question how i could show the hidden options? :p