[Galaxy S I9000 General] wogfella:
Right guys, sorry for the long post. It was Australia Day here yesterday and I'm into my fourth beer trying to get to the elusive "hair of the dog"

If you lost 5% in the time it took you to write half a post, then you either have your screen brightness up too high or some app/apps are nailing your battery.

PRT I know you've been around the traps so a little research on this site should see you in good stead to increase that life.

I know the shame around using Juice Defender (if you keep turning the screen on, it wastes battery reconnecting all the time) but I swear it's allowed my phone to go up to 1.5 days usage with "normal" use. I don't need to know RIGHT THAT MINUTE that someone responded to my Tweet...but after 15 minutes or half an hour that's fine. Also, if you go pro you can use "quiet hours" (although that's not what it's called) so you don't need to get the email at 4am. I know I'm not going to read it so why bother sending it to me until later?

I also know that there is a debunking of the "battery calibration myth" going around but I have to say: Placebo or not, if you flash a new ROM on 50% battery it takes a few cycles to stretch it's arms and yawn....the battery life in this period blows and I don't mean like the wind. After a few charge/discharge cycles the battery life improves so...bring me my placebo pills and let me sit on that rocker over there....sorry rschenck was that yours? I'll just borrow it for a while old timer.

What I meant to say there is - it's your phone, if you wanna mess about with the batterstats.bin file with some app that hopefully isn't market malware then go ahead.

Now to the topic at hand:

Firstly, you are comparing our still developing and much loved Android to IOS. For a start, I'd call you a traitor...except I know you're an Android lover from way back. But secondly I ask why not to a WP7 phone as well?

But to your point about IOS and battery life:

IOS is optimised PROPERLY for the small number of unique devices that Apple has on the market. Think about it - they only need to upgrade and tweak their code for the following: Iphone (3 generations), ipad (2 generations), Ipod Touch (3 generations I think), other ipod classed devices that use IOS (2 generations of the new-ish Nano from memory).

That means their software engineers/coders only need to muck around with optimising code for roughly 10 devices. And the hardware components (for Kernel purposes) for a lot of those devices are pretty much the same - for example the A5 processor that's in the 4s and the Ipad2, the wifi module for most devices is the same....I can go on and with this much beer usually do.

When they worked on IOS5, it was no small undertaking but they were able to port that to their 10 devices and still have time for a beer after work. Cold cold beer.

And on top of that: Their coders are PAID to do that as their job. Can you imagine if the entire Cyanogenmod team were actually paid (and paid like the Apple guys in California) to do what they are doing and nothing else? We'd be looking at our 1ghz processor and 512 meg ram and wondering WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE EXCESS POWER.

OK Maybe over the top, but I'm saying that what we've gotten thus far is pretty freakin close to perfection and it's done by THS

in their "spare" time around work and school

. If that's actually all they did for a living (and were able to post it here and not have to sign nondisclosure agreements or live in windowless basements) then we'd have beyond perfection.

And lastly - the hardware itself is vetted by Apple to the point of stupidity. According to the different rumourmill websites, the newest 8mp camera in the 4s replaced another (10MP) camera that they had already decided on because the 10mp actually had longer lag time in taking the pic and drew "too much" power.

No I am not an Apple lover - far from it - but compare the GPS from any recent Apple device to the SGS which was Sammy's flagship phone for a time. Or the SGS2, which was a lot more ship and less flaggy. I'll wait. No comparison, is there? I hate Apple's policies and OS and their freakin entire hermetically sealed architecture, but I am impressed with the damned hardware.

It's like appreciating the top of the line spotscar that's driven by the complete and utter [deleted] idiot from your work. Sure, it was made by slave labour, and the guy uses too much aftershave and looks like he spends his free time defiling small animals in the basement of his house....but the car has SEAT WARMERS and can go from 0 - 100 in about 3 seconds.

Sammy, who drives a bit like my 20 year old Honda with the exhaust leak...Well, their decision process went "yup, let's go with THAT processor and THAT camera and THAT GPS chip". According to rumour, the components that are used in the SGS use "closed source/proprietary drivers". That is to say, Pawitp et al are having to do dodgy workarounds to make the damned camera work properly (and we got HD recording! The guys are freaking legends!)

I'm fairly certain that the Sammy ROM/kernel devs a) don't love problem solve coding like our beloved THS dev's and b) are nowhere near as smart as the THS guys.

So in summary: iPhawn devices have well tested and lower-power using hardware, have decently paid dev teams who have the comfort of being able to only work around a few iterations of that hardware, and they have the muppet market eating out of their hands (Jobs was a genius. Evil genius? Sure. Still a freakin genius) which means that even if they stuff up they still get impressed reviews.

Sammy gave us a cheap(ish) phone with crappy components with non-optimised drivers that have to be used due to closed-source drivers, and an OS that's designed to work on about a thousand different devices (give or take) which means needs to have some basic optimisations for everyone. Eeew.

I hope that, somehow, this doesn't raise the ire of the mods or of the flaming crew, and I don't end up having my account hacked with the words "APPLE LOVER" scrawled over my signature.

But I also hope that this helps you feel better about the fact that your friends iPhone uses less battery than yours does - just remember that no matter what

HE'S HOLDING IT WRONG....VERY WRONG

Thanks

/end drunken rant.

No wait - here's the last point about the H/W - the Amoled screen sucks juice quicker than...I can drink beer. THAT'S A LOT DAMMIT!

In fact, you can almost ignore the rest of the post. It's your screen!