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[TouchPad General] pmknking:
I tried for both a 16GB and 32GB exactly at 6pm Central Time and no luck ... zip ... nada. I wanted to gift the 32GB and use the 16GB as a back up since I'm tinkering a lot with mine. I heard at another site that the servers crashed and that they might have more in stock. I'm still refreshing the eBay page.
[TouchPad General] Blackcircle:
all the sold items are from people in pacific time....hmmm.

via EVO.
[TouchPad General] TrueYears:
How exactly is this eBays fault? This **** always happens whenever there is something a lot of people want. When I purchased a few dozen TouchPads from the HP SMS It was a lot worse and I was double charged a few times.

Its also quite amazing seeing all those pathetic buyers leaving Negative feedback to HP for charging 19 for shipping. As that was what HP was charging on its SMS page.
[TouchPad General] DANIEL133337:
I spent an hour and a half trying to buy 2 of them, even called up ebay!! And no luck -__- so furious!
[TouchPad General] YoMaMa7467:
I managed to get myself a 32GB but i got it at the loss of my F5 key. Poor button got worn down to the contacts lol. It took me about 40 + minutes for the whole process.
[TouchPad General] Puenos:
ok dude..

bit you DO realize, that eBay is an AUCTION plattform?

dunno where you live and what you experienced till now... but they're no regular shopping site like you seem to misunderstood ..

eBay too is first come first served.. and holding them responsible for not guaranteeing you one EVEN THOUGH you had them in your cart... sry .. but srsly? first-time ebayer?

if you followed this whole Touchpad-madness from the beginning you should have known what to expect.. otherwise you were just unprepared ..

as it was only expected to mass-kill servers again..

then again.. you should have completed ONE order at a time.. do you could have had one now instead of nothing maybe?

just for the next time..

oh and congratulations to everyone who joined the club of TouchPad-owners :)
[TouchPad General] TrueYears:
People probably had the ebay page with everything ready to go when it began
[TouchPad General] henrys01:
Same here. I was able to snag a 32 after about 45 min of refreshing.
[TouchPad General] smass:
I am not sure why anyone would be surprised that ebay checkout would be dicey on this deal. I considered trying to get in on the action, but went to bed early instead. I snagged a 16gb in the original HP firesale and have been very happy with it.

A few have commented that the demand for these touchpads at $99 and $149 should make HP reconsider the platform. HP cannot make a profit at that price point. Take the Kindle Fire as an example. It is estimated that Amazon is losing money on the Kindle Fire. They intend to make up the profit on the sale of books, movies, and apps. If Amazon is losing money at the $200 price point on a 7" unit with a stripped down feature set, what price would HP need to get to break even on a 10" touchpad? HP would probably need to charge at least $300 just to break even, and maybe $350-400 to make a profit. Add to that the fact that HP is not a media sales company. Apple has itunes and Amazon has its media empire. Apple and Amazon have the infrastructure to make tons of cash on the sale of apps and media. HP has no such outlet. They are purely a hardware manufacturer. Add to that the expense of running and developing your own OS and you have a recipe for failure.

The other hardware manufacturers like Samsung, Asus, etc are using Android and therefore saving a boatload in software development costs. Therefore they can price thier devices a bit lower than HP and make a profit.

Bottom line, the touchpad at $499 was a complete joke. At $299 it may have been viable - but HP would not be able to make a profit on the hardware and they do not have the infrastructure to make a profit on the sale of books, media, and such.
[TouchPad General] naguumo1:
I had three phones two computers both connect to a t1 server and I was unable to buy the 16gb version at all! Ended up just getting the 32gb instead and it took 20 min to order it.
[TouchPad General] tackleberry:
I friggin had one and stupid payment site kept messing up. By the time I got to confirm payment it deleted the items!!

This was a cluster ****.
[TouchPad General] Falkner09:
long time ebayer actually. which is why I know that its NOT just an auction platform. the sale last night was, in fact, from the STORE section of the site. i.e, the regular shopping site.

As for the cart thing, yes, they should be guaranteeing people products if the item has been placed in their carts. that's what first come, first served actually means. It means I actually got there first, and got the item, yet ebay then sold it to someone else just because their own site was lagging.

as for the site ag, eBay is indeed responsible for that. it's a business' responsibility to make sure it is prepared for its customers, not the customer's responsibility to redesign the store.
[TouchPad General] Drachen808:
Its a calculated business risk. Should Ebay pay to have enough server capability and bandwidth to handle an event (and the traffic that comes with it) that happens maybe once a year?

Then answer is an emphatic no. That would be a colossal waste of money. Will that decision piss some people off? Sure. For the great majority, though, they will either A) get a Touchpad, or B) Understand that these things happen with a popular product (especially since we JUST saw it happen 4 months ago). You seem to be in category C. and Ebay is betting that the lost goodwill from those in category C. will be less than the cost of paying a ****-ton for servers and bandwidth.

A perfect brick and mortar example would be that you are essentially saying that Toys R' Us should buy three buildings for every store. One to house the store as we see it now, and the other two that the open only around christmas to shelve all of the tickle-me-elmos that are demanded at that time. These other two buildings would remain empty and unused the rest of the year. I am sure you would agree that this would be a horrible waste of capital and whoever suggests it should be fired.

Oh and to respond to your best buy analogy, I just want to let you know that there are a TON of reports out there about customers grabbing items out of the carts of other customers on Black Friday, so yes it does happen.

Point is, you are frustrated that you didn't get one, this is understandable. But you got greedy and got burned. Sucks, but there it is.
[TouchPad General] Blackcircle:
Anyone got one for sale?

via EVO.
[TouchPad General] crump84:
http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476
[TouchPad General] LastQuark:
I don't think it is much of the preparations than because everyone is accessing the eBay USA site all at the same time. All those who went through UK, DE, and CA eBay sites were more successful because of significantly less internet traffic.
[TouchPad General] teddyspaghetti:
You think this was bad? I snagged four 32gb's from HP Small Medium Business site during the original firesale and it was ridiculous! Had to refresh the page multiple times throughout the checkout process. Spent literally 5 hours refreshing the page! Even refreshed the final checkout step and was charged multiple times, but they cleared up after a few days.

It takes committment, that's for sure! But it's worth it for a device with these specs for that price.
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
Hey guys, check this Xperia Arc out.

Some guy in Thailand is doing this as his local business, but since he's charging small to do this, I figured this is something easy and cheap that we could do ourselves. The question is what material is being used to wrap around. Would love to hear some of you guys' feedback. I'm feeling it might be some Teflon tape? Any ideas?
[Xperia Arc General] Alejandrissimo:
OMFG the pink one is cooooool

also the orange one *-*
[Xperia Arc General] CHez0or:
white body, red sides, mirror screen film... DROOL!

***must control urge to tear up my phone for paint***
[Xperia Arc General] Spauncer:
Well,i saw nothing
[Xperia Arc General] unknown13x:
From what I see, he did not disassemble the phone at all. It looks like some thin film that goes over the phone.
[Xperia Arc General] Alejandrissimo:
Yes, you can notice on the hole to pull out the battery, film is over the hole
[Xperia Arc General] zangetsu2188:
I want! Hehe. Great to hide those faded marks on my arc :D
[Xperia Arc General] elnitrox:
any links for this item?

i want the sides to be all black..

for preventive measure haha
[Xperia Arc General] soldiers33:
Looks like a very bad job. Look at the edges you can still see the chrome and there are dried up blobs near buttons.
[Xperia Arc General] Alejandrissimo:
Agree but the basic idea is very good
[Xperia Arc General] brosesmoses:
yes but he definitely got the two-tones colours right, especially with the black and orange one, I'm gonna look around online to see if i can get something similar going with my arc.
[Xperia Arc General] tyrand3:
beautiful ,i like the white/cyan colour.

:D
[Xperia Arc General] hinata76:
reminds me of a white/gold combo on some Blackberry sets..

gold anyone?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EPICFIST:
not rooted, Android version 2.3.3, market version2.3.4

Phone will not update any installed apps, only gives errors and the market will not update to the new market. Took the battery out multiple times. Went into manage apps in the settings and did the clear cache. Left the market on the home page for over 20 minutes and it just wont update.

Any suggestion on how to get the new market and get the updates for the other market apps to work?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottypeterson:
Google to find the new android market apk and install it. It will replace the old market

Sent from my Supercharged MikG'd up EVO 4g while eatin some Chop Suey.

Hit that thanks button if I managed to help.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jettamk4:
I had the same problem with mine. I asked Sprint about it and they said that the new market wasn't rolled out to the EVO yet. I downloaded the new market from the EVO shift section over at sdx and installed it and I have the new market now
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] megabiteg:
You can also clear the cache and uninstall the latest updates of the market on your phone via Settings - Applications - Manage Applications - All.

After that reboot and try again, should work.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wisper2000:
There is a new market apk. that just came out.

here is the apk, its alot faster.
[Nexus S Themes and Apps] doomi77:
I have a new case for my nexus and I noticed that the volume rocker has a problem, I wonder if there is an app. to disable the physical button. Thank you in advance!
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
First. Good post. Sticky request.
[Epic 4G Android Development] roddygonzo17:
Too bad this wasn't up before I flashed the MIUI update.... It looks like MTD=FML for me. I now have no choice on if i want 4g or not because the only 2 ROMs with MTD are CM7 and MIUI which dont support 4g. Grrrr. I hope someone can make something to get back to EXT4 or RFS W/O odin or heimdall. Last time I used odin to go to a stock ROM it ended up hard bricking my phone and i had to pay $600 for a new one.

I hope other users read this post before making the ssame mistake I did. Thank you AproSamurai.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
No. Those are proprietary. You need to use Odin because it has the Samsung code that we don't have.

Edit: make sure you use a pit and make sure you check repartition and auto reboot. Nothing else.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
I apologize I couldn't have gotten it out sooner. Been a bit busy as of late, my apologies. Things are being worked on now regarding overlay and 911 by the CM team. And then CM will be official and we'll begin to see work on ICS and beyond, if that's of any consolation.:x
[Epic 4G Android Development] || Acer ||:
You're gonna have to Odin, sorry. There's absolutely no way and there most likely will never be a way without it.

By the way, $600? I've bricked my phone a few times, and when I went to sprint I got a replacement for $35. Not sure what you did there.

Sent from my Samsung Epic using CM7!
[Epic 4G Android Development] thadialeckt:
Great post. This was very needed
[Epic 4G Android Development] roddygonzo17:
Thanks for a quick reply marcusant. If its not too much of a hassle would you mind making a video and possibly post links for the .tar and .pit to use unless the .pit is the same as for froyo. I just really need my phone and dont want to have to buy another one.

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The representative from sprint told me that the only way i would have been able to brick it like that (would not turn on, no recovery mode, and no download mode and when plugged the charger in it wouldnt charge or be recognized by the computer) is if i rooted it which voided my warranty and wouldnt be covered by insurance.
[Epic 4G Android Development] onilink67:
I would have fought that by playing stupid and asking what he was talking about. Sprint also came out last year stating rooting does not void warranty but did require being noted on your account IIRC. I can give at least 1 scenario where that could have happened without rooting ... go drop your phone in the bathtub.

Memory modules and other ICs can easily go bad as well so sprint employee was playing a jumping to conclusion game and a manager would have been called over quickly.
[Epic 4G Android Development] roddygonzo17:
You know I wasn't really thinking of that at that point, i was just worried about getting my phone back but that would have been a great idea. That way the little stickers that turn red when they get wet would have changed colors since water damage is covered.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
"Wouldn't naturally do this but needs to keep this relevant until it can be stickied."

BUMP
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I need to make a tutorial to restore... I'm really busy right now but will try to put up a simple guide without pictures. When I have time I will do pictures or a video. *qbking77 may beat me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] duce102:
Its old but still relevant.

[YOUTUBE]YQ2g6J1JgjU[/YOUTUBE]
[Epic 4G Android Development] tazfanatic:
http://db.tt/Pf4qPUIV

This is the tar and pit file.
[Epic 4G Android Development] cavey8500:
very usefull info, im allready on one before this was posted, but i knew most of what i needed, you should ask qbking to put his video in the op. it has alot of good info in it for those people who dont read anything.....
[Epic 4G Android Development] duce102:
If I,

1.) make a nand backup in CWM5 of MTD CM7, would I be able to Odin back to stock, then restore the nand backup?

Or,

2.) would I have to reflash the ROM then advanced restore data?

Im leaning toward option 2 since CWM5 wont preserve the partition map, only the filesystem. I just want to be sure.

Thank you Apro :D

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
2 would be the correct answer to your question. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] migmartinez:
I installed the miui and didn't realize that I would have oden back to stock but I just followed qbking's video and I after that I was able to restore my nandroid backup. I got freaked out because i couldnt restore my backup at 1st but in the end it was my fault for not reading before l did it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BogusBizzo:
Thanks for the info Apro. Knowing is half the battle.

Born from an Epic Rebirth.
[Epic 4G Android Development] I Brick Phones:
only $35? I haven't had to send my Epic in for replacement yet but every phone i've sent to Asurion in the past is always $100 per incident... are you on a different insurance plan or something?
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
$35 is Sprint's warranty handling fee for people with no insurance.
[Epic 4G Android Development] duce102:
Thats crazy, I couldnt imagine paying $35 for a replacement. Ive gone through 7 epics, always next day delivered to store if they didnt have them in stock, always free (except for the $8 a month for black tie). I love insurance.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
Very nicr write up Apro. I reccomend putting your race track analogy in there. That really made sense.

/sig
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
I'm not sure how necessary it'd be, but I could perhaps go about doing so. Hmmmm, maybe.
[Epic 4G Android Development] AmericanJedi001:
Thanks for the write-up, AproSamurai. Now if I could just make myself sit through 7:21 of video and see what QBKing77 has to say, I'll be caught up on the major MTD tutorials available in the Epic forums! ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] skywalker6705:
Great news on MTD. Hopefully this makes the Cyanogenmod port a little more flexible and easier to maintain. I know it's been a beast.

I've been mostly running ROMs like Syndicate Froyo and lately ACS ICS 5.5. I don't use 4g much so I'm alright leaving that behind (for now) if/when the MTD roms get more solid.

Hopefully we see many/most Epic devs move over to MTD. Once we have more selection on MTD format I'm sure we'll have an easier time getting users to test new builds of Cyanogen and (hopefully) ICS one day.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Uthman:
I know right? I never bricked a phone, but I've came damn close (no boot, no download mode, etc.). I even exploded an LCD but with 35 bux (and *no* warranty) I was able to get a replacement phone. ODIN = Your best friend if you have an EPIC, do not fear it my friend. You can be back on stock in like 5 min.

wow, i totally just quoted the wrong post. this was to the dude who didnt want to odin after going to miui without knowing about MTD
[Epic 4G Android Development] JettMartinez:
Just to add to this, if you're constantly having trouble with Odin, it's probably your cable causing issues, not Odin. Death to the stock cable!
[Epic 4G Android Development] omair2005:
nice read! this should def have "how to go back from mtd" with ODIn and all the necessary files to do so. just my 2c
[Epic 4G Android Development] monke30butt:
I know the Odin thing has been covered several times here, but I wanted to know if the Samsung Windows installer for EB13 would restore the partition from MTD to BML if I wanted return to another ROM after trying CM7?

Sorry to rehash the subject but I didn't see any mention of this option & I was curious if it would work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xplus93:
Really? I've found the stock cable extremely reliable.

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I actually have a question too. I heard that this would help port roms from other phones like the ns4g. Specifically i want to know about the sense rom that is being worked on on the ns4g. I know how the majority of the community hates sense, but i like it and dont want to downgrade to an evo shift.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ehurt152:
AproSamurai, thanks man, great post!
[Epic 4G Android Development] dyehya:
http://tinyurl.com/epicfix That will take you back to stock from MTD or corrupt partitions or whatever is wrong with your phone as long as it isn't hard bricked :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dante of the Inferno:
I understand that being on MTD gives us the same partition control that some other smartphones enjoy, but what are the actual benefits? Does it make coding for CM9, etc easier? Does it allow for simple multi-booting? Can CWM still act as a recovery system for MTD ROM's? If not, then what do we use? I don't quite understand how this new partition mapping is actually useful.
[Epic 4G Android Development] zanderman112:
ICS requires more /system space, so this is future proofing our developmental status.

Yes CWM still works as recovery, it just had to be modified for MTD.

/temporary sig
[Epic 4G Android Development] codest3r:
I hope that with 911 and Video Overlay working the official status comes in soon! :D:D:D

I'm curious how the boot up process works with BML/RFS (or EXT4) vs MTD/YAFFS2. I've googled and searched around but couldn't find a good comparison. Is there a resource you know of that outlines the steps after power-on with the BML/RFS and MTD/YAFFS2 - that covers what gets mounted, when, and how? :confused:

I was hoping it would help me understand why reboot to recovery doesn't work on MTD yet and also why the 3 finger causes loops until you release it.

I found some background and interesting dialogue in another thread on XDA but it left me with more questions than answers. :)

Nothing critical, just my curiosity about it really. If you have any suggestions on how to better understand the boot process on MTD and get more transparency there I'd love to hear about it. Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
I myself have been wondering that, almost a month ago when everyone was discussing moving to MTD(I'm not a member of the EpicCM team) I was curious about how the partitions would work and be mounted and I honestly(personal guess) believe it mirrors how BML handles it. I think that is an essential thing for our phone to function in the way that it does. But I'm not the most aware of how and in what way the mounting is executed upon boot which makes it differ, I honestly think we may be overthinking it and it's exactly the same on both of our parts. Just a few differences in what happens when it's mounted. But I've no shame in answering something I'm not sure about, I just can't say I'm right on it lol.

Damn you for asking me the question I've been trying to figure out myself lol.:o

Also I believe that is more or less how it's linked to the recovery overall and what the functions within the UI to boot into recovery are looking for. In our boot.imgs we have our init and we also have our recovery(to be simple), which is why the oddness happens with 3 finger boot, you releasing it allows it to know when it needs to switch from init to recovery, if you hold on it's at a standstill, it needs to switch from one to another and I don't believe there is a clear path without it switching from one to the other. So that jump for the meantime is just something that isn't too big of a deal, nor is it broken just handled differently.

I hope that was of some help, I can be wrong in some areas though, so if anyone knows differently feel free to correct me.:)
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
^^

Everytime you post something new is learned.:D
[Epic 4G Android Development] bender beerman:
u, sir, are not a fountain of knowledge, but rather a geyser of intelligence. thank u for sharing :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] toadlife:
`reboot recovery` from adb/shell and rebooting to recovery from ROM Manager doesn't work for some reason. It just reboots. Right now, the only way I've been able to get into recovery while on MTD is to do the three finger salute.

Thanks for your post BTW. It helped me figure out what parts I needed to get my kernel working with MTD.
[Epic 4G Android Development] duce102:
Is there anything that needs to be done to make a theme work on MTD/YAFFS2?

And what determines the partition sizes? Kernel, ROM, or other?
[Epic 4G Android Development] AproSamurai:
You need to go into CWM and into Mounts and mount system. To be able to flash a theme.
[Epic 4G Android Development] toadlife:
Partition sizes are set in the kernel. I imagine this can lead to all kinds of hilarity if someone flashes a ROM/kernel with one set of partition sizes and then flashes another MTD kernel with different partition sizes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] KennyG123:
Wow, that does not sound cool. Maybe all the DEVs can agree on size standard for that.