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[HTC Wildfire S] CreativeNerdSam:
Hi Guys,

Sorry to be a pain and make my first post to be pretty much that of bunch of 'dumb and silly' question post but im just a little bit weary about some of the procedures relating to the upgrade of 2.3.5.

BACKUPS

I noticed in the main thread with the how-to about Upgrading to 2.3.5 it states to take a FULL BACKUP - How can one achieve this without a Rooted S-OFF'ed WFS? Understandably I can backup music etc that's on my SD Card already, but is there anything else I should be backing up and if so, what - is there anything such as an application out there?

UNBRANDED

Im just wanting to make sure that by unbranded it means, unlocked to all networks and with no specific network lock on the device or branding?

WILL NETWORK SETTINGS ETC NEED TO BE CHANGED

I had the G1 when it was first launched and can remember having a few problems with rooting and upgrading that device to newer ROMS where-by my network carrier settings (T-Mobile at the time) would not work correctly. Has this problem been rectified?

GOING BACK TO STOCK?

What happens if I don't like the new 2.3.5 version of android, can I roll back to stock, am I stuck on it and if I can roll back, how?

OTA Updates - IF THEY EVER HAPPEN

Finally, I was wondering if using the 'hacked' way of upgrading to 2.3.5 would stop any OTA Updates coming through should my Network Carrier provide any (seems unlikely).

I just want to apologise before-hand if any of the above questions have actually already been answered. I have done some searching and cannot find definitive answers to the questions I have provided and felt it best to provide them in once place. Chances are if im asking them a fair few other people will be thinking them....no?
[HTC Wildfire S] CreativeNerdSam:
Surely the WFS community isn't that dead...anyone at all - Speaking to Orange UK they have said they have not heard anything about an update for the WFS this side of Christmas...
[HTC Wildfire S] csoulr666:
Allow me to answer all your questions.....

1.You can backup apps etc... Just temp-root your phone(it is either in the general aur dev section).....then use titanium backup....

2.As far as I know debranding would only mean to remove the bloatware that phone carriers add in some countries.

3.No need to change network settings.

4.Going back to an older version without s-off is currently 55% possible(rounded figures :D)

5.If you are in the stock ROM...then I don't think OTA updates won't stop even if you are rooted

6.And yes....is your carrier a CDMA one or a GSM one??If it is CDMA then you can s-off your phone easily and you can then root it.....
[HTC Wildfire S] CreativeNerdSam:
Thank you for getting back to me. I was just wondering with temp rooting and taking a backup will I lose any data already on my phone etc?

My carrier is Orange UK, which requires a SIM...

Regards

/* --- EDIT ---*/

Just wondering if I need to use Titanium Backup or whether I can use any backup application for this move to 2.3.5?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adityamunshi:
Very helpful post, Thanks.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sneakysnake16:
I was one of the people asking about this and I just wanted to thank you a ton im gonna try some stuff you suggested, mainly my widgets I have about 3 pages haha. Anyways thanks for the guide :D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sneakysnake16:
Also just wanted to ask a question but first thanks to your no widgets getting I get 20% more life :D. But to my question, does having alot of apps on a home screen eg.more pages,more apps,etc. Use more battery just like the widgets?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
I don't think having more apps on your home screen uses more battery, but having more page does use more RAM. I use only 3 pages but I have 4 or 5 folders set up too. Games for instance has 12 games in it. Social has 3 (you know what they are).

Glad to see it is working for you. Use the apps too and if you decide to get JD+ let me know and I will help you set it up correctly.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00B_IN_N33D:
Guide looks awesome bro!

Update: Also, thanks for including a link to my guide! Really appreciate that! :D

Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sneakysnake16:
I think im gonna get it cause so far about 7 hours so so far its a 1 hour increase in life. And ok good to know as of now i only have 1 page but normally i have 3.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00B_IN_N33D:
Bigger Battery:

For anyone interested here's a thread on buying a larger 1800mAh battery (400mAh more then the stock batteries) that are cheap and fit nicely. Check out this thread here.

Can you imagine... The extended juice of an Epic 4G battery + Woodrube's epic guideline!? ...That would be two epic's combined to =
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sneakysnake16:
I got juice defender ultimate would that help? And how do i use it if you wouldnt mind telling me. I have it set to basic
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Ill type you up something and PM you tonight or tomorrow. If you could PM me a general list of your apps, that would help.

I'm like a crack dealer. First answer is free, the second one costs you (a thanks).

Did you know that you can also hit the THANKS button from your XDA Premium app? Just tap the post.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sneakysnake16:
Ok ill do that and i didnt know that ill be sure to thank you you helped me alot so far thanks for the tip
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Updated some links and a few things in post #2
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00B_IN_N33D:
Awesome, your guide is from now on "stickied"! :D
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
i think you need to tell me your secret haxor ways to get it stickied too.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00B_IN_N33D:
Lol, there's no "haxor" skills needed to get a guide stickied.

Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
I am going to be updating this sometime this weekend, so if anyone has any suggestions, let me know and I'll take a look at them. I also have found another miui kernel OC/UV set up too that I'll put in there as well.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00B_IN_N33D:
For which kernel?

Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
It is Glitch also but the OC isn't as high as yours but the UC is fairly different especially in the lower frequencies. I think that I might put in something about memory management too but still undecided about that yet. Are you working on the new BIBLE? Talk about a monster task. Let me know it you need help and want to colabo on it. PM me your thoughts. Always here to help bro.

ps: Digging your new graphics too. You've come quite a long way.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00B_IN_N33D:
Would be interested in seeing the OC/UV settings you found. Also, yes, I am in the process of developing a new Bible. A monster task indeed. I will definitely need your help to get this accomplished and will PM you later in the week on the subject... Also, thanks for your comment on the graphics :). One of the head guys of 360 productions liked my MIUI guide so much that he asked me to join 360.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
I am going to be revamping this over the weekend, so if anyone has an suggestions for additional material, please let me know.

I already have some from Topshelf and also some more OC/UV settings to put in there too.

Would like to have some ICS feedback if at all possible, since it has become way more stable since this guide came out.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrrobc97:
Great guide!

I've been one of those that gets annoyed by bat. life complaining threads. I know for a fact that these first time "flashers" go ahead and install their new custom ROM (and kernel if they are that bold) then after that they go ahead and do the same thing they did when their phone was stock. They keep their 8+ screens open with nothing with senseless widgets that they probably check once every two days. They leave auto-sync, gps, wi-fi, and every data-syncing app on and running. They either use that cool live wallpaper or install a bright ass white one. Once they see they are not getting the 40+ hours of battery life some bullshitter posted that most likely didn't touch his phone for 40+ hours then posts that thats what this ROM is giving him with "moderate" use, then......this is the part that f@#%ing kills me:mad:....then they go to that ROM thread and complain to the Dev that their battery sucks on this ROM. That's when you get those "Help! my battery life sucks" threads and they get responses like "try this ROM, is better" or "flash this kernel instead" and the process starts all over again cuz they never learn.

Two main things I wanna point out that you also pointed out cuz they are golden.....BE REALISTIC....and USE COMMON SENSE.

BTW, still rocking my dinosaur Bionix 1.3.1 with Bali 1.8.8 cuz I just want something that everything WORKS all day...every day:D.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mandown:
Found on general threads not what I wanted to see.

Looks like it batterystats.bin did nothing but keep Battery usage data not power level, and everytime you unplug from almost full charge it resets.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
I saw that a bit ago. I am going to put it in the guide as an * is the battery apps part. I know what it says, but I also know what I've seen/experienced too.

This is where the GUIDEline part comes into play. User oriented options.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Included more battery saving apps, memory management apps/tricks, debunk of Battstats, another MIUI OC/UV setting,...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mejussme:
Awesome thread very useful! Keep up the good work!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amb13n:
battery

I spent 13 bucks on the Anker 1800 mah battery and get 20 plus hours of use without sacrificing anything.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpatt:
I didn't see it posted but the swipe to unlock feature was a significant drain on my battery.

Passion V13 T959
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
I am not even sure what this means. Aren't all lockscreens swipe to unlock in one fashion or another? Are you talking about Widgetlocker or something like that?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpatt:
The Lock Screen feature (the subject of Apples/Google lawsuit) is a source of battery drain for me. The swipe to unlock feature runs in the background, even when your screen is off and waits for your swipe -- thus draining battery. In ICS Passion v13 --> settings --> security --> Lock Screen off.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
There is a good thread about this in the XDA General Discussion section.

I will look into this once my flashing slows down and I settle on a specific ROM for more than a week. Once I do, I'll post something back here for you.

Out of thanks for the day (already) but I'll hit you up tomorrow.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mandown:
I noticed something that might be overlooked. I realized when I was talking to my buddies for hours on my bluetooth about 5 hours of non stop talk time, that there was almost NO battery drain on phone maybe 1 or 2%. That right there added many hours of battery life. Now I use my bluetooth all the time.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alwaysrock:
I've seen great improvement on my battery life using some of these recommendations!!!! Gonna try a couple more things maybe with even better results!!!!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpatt:
A worthy try for long lasting battery life

When I first read this I LOL'd and didn't take it seriously. When I tried it, I was very impressed with the results.

HOW TO RECALIBRATE YOUR BATTERY (by heartagramm):

COMPLETE GUIDE!!!

You'll have to use the phone for about 1-4 days (although it varies depending on the phone and battery used; every phone is an individual). It runs out of battery. Yes. Let it run. Recharge. After 3-4 recharges the battery will "gain" it's performance back.

After 3-4 full charge/full drain -cycles, do the following:

1. Charge the battery up to fullest.

2. Keep it plugged in to charger, and reboot to recovery.

3. On the recovery, go advanced, wipe battery stats, scroll on to yes BUT Don't wipe them yet. When you're ready, quickly remove the battery cable and push to wipe the battery stats.

4. Reboot the phone, use normally. Let it run completely out of battery.

5. Charge the phone back to full. Turn off phone. Charge until it says 100% on the green bar and vibrates for full charge.

6. The Important Part. Remove the charge cable for 0-0.5 seconds and plug it back in instantly. Let it charge to 100% again. Do this 1-2 times again, so you've done this 2-3 times total.

7. Reboot to recovery, wipe the battery stats again as on the step 3.

8. After wiping the battery stats, plug the charger back in the phone.

9. Reboot to ROM. Keep the cable plugged in. Keep it plugged in for about 30 mins to 2 hrs. Unplug. Should say 100%, mine did for about 40 mins after it depleted onto 99%.

And this is the way you should really gain great battery performance. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=950354
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
Wood, since you seem to be the expert on battery around here...

My standby has been horrible on Euphoria for the past week.

I installed Watchdog to see what was causing it and it said Android Media Process was over 90% on CPU usage.

I don't exactly know how to freeze Media Process etc. I don't even listen to music, i do sometimes, but just BARELY maybe once or twice every other day.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Chances are that since it is probably not music, you must have another offending app that is constantly scanning the media.

Do you use stock gallery? Try QuickPic instead (I actually use this and delete the stock gallery in all my ROMs b/c 1 it sucks a 2 it eats tons of RAM).

Do you have any Podcatchers or Pandora that sync with your music that you do have on your phone?

How about Picasa or some photo sharing app? Twitter, FB or G+ instant picture upload? Most likely it is one app that won't stop the scanning. Find the app and your issue is fixed. That has gotta be killing your battery.

You can do three things once you find it.

1 Uninstall and then reinstall the app

2 Uninstall the app and find a replacement

3 Find the app and strategically place a .nomedia in its root (but be carefull b/c if you put it in something like Album Art, then you won't have any art in your music player)

Can also check this out too https://market.android.com/details?id=com.addz.mediascannerroot

If you are wanting to get more advance here is a thread in the Galaxy Tab section that you can put a script in to fix it (personally, I think the above detective work should do it though)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
Thanks Wood.

I checked my sync settings, Facebook is off, and the only things i sync are calendar, chrome beta, and contacts with google.

No Radio apps at all.

So my guess is that its the stock gallery.

So just install quick pic, freeze stock gallery and it should do the job?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Should be good to go after that. Maybe reboot and wipe Dalvik to clean out the gallery cache in your system and just monitor it.

You'll find QuickPic much more user friendly and you can have it hide folders or no video (I use Mobo but QuickPic has a video player too).
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jnusz:
Does anyone know of any free alternatives to JD+, the free version of JD wont' let you control the usage on an app by app basis.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dvryu:
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3000mah,LOL
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matbarni:
Nice work... thanks for detailing everything... keep the GREAT work!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
Hey Wood, possibly next update to this thread ( i know you're planning it) you could add the settings YOU personally use for Juice Defender? I chipped out the $5 for the developer just because i have used the ultimate on my previous google account, and loved it to death.

Mind sharing some settings that get you through the day? :)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
You know I have been thinking of doing this for a bit bc a fair amount of people have asked bits and pieces, so I might as well put the whole thing up to show how I get it done.

I came off Zen for the week to work on the Encryption Bug and put an old 2.2 that I tweaked the hell out of and if I told you how long the first cycle I got was, you wouldn't believe me (but I did take a screen shot and the time starts with 2 and ends with days;);))

I'll post it tomorrow once I can compile it all legibly. I use the same settings with 2.2 and 4.0 so what works for one works for the other for me.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00B_IN_N33D:
Here's the JD Ultimate settings I use, which are based off of the settings Wood posted a while back...

As for the "configure apps" part, Wood's guide already covers all that good stuff.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
I got side tracked today. At my job, I have been there for long enough that I can be on XDA or Rootz all day and still get more work done than my co-workers. Well today was Opening Day and the Reds parade went right by my desk window so not only did every yahoo in the tri-state oogle at me not drinking at 9am, but my co-workers kept looking out my window. Hence my covert postings were slightly hindered.

I'll hook it up tomorrow. And even put in my apps and there individual settings.

Thanks N00B for posting yours.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xriderx66:
Thanks guys, wood its no problem take your time, N00b in the meantime thanks for that.

Any specific settings I should turn on/off?

I do not have a data plan so idc if my data is off as long as i can still receive MMS, which i think requires data to be on. Connected to WiFi throughout day.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N00B_IN_N33D:
No problem. Gotta say thanks for even introducing me to JD Wood, can't live without it now--- or should I say, my phone's battery can't :p.

---------- Post added at 10:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:45 PM ----------

Definitely set any browsers you have installed to "enable" or really any internet surfing tools you have, XDA app, RootzWiki app, etc. Also set Google Play Store to "enable".
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Here is mine but I am on JD+ and not Ultimate

Profile - Customize

Notification - Graphical

Settings

Mobile Data and WIFI both Enable

Options - Auto Disable

Location - Disable

Schedule -Enable --->2hrs

Night Enable --->12a to 9a (user take priority)

Apps --.Set to Interactive

E = Enable

ESo = Enable/Scrren Off

D = Disable

DN = Do Nothing

At-Bat12 = ESo

IHeartRadio = ESo

Jango = ESo

Sticher = ESo

Dolphin = E

Google Play Store = E

Messaging = E

Twitter = E

XDA pre = E

Zedge = E

Angry Birds (all variants) = Disable --->You get no ads this way wink wink

These are all Do Nothing

Addfree

Apparatus

BW

Betterbatterystats

Cachemate

Elixir

Fasterfix

FlickGolf

Google Search

Maps

Moboplayer

PowerAmp -->I can listen to music without it looking for Album Art b/c it is set to do nothing, so one of the above apps take priority and when the screen is off, data is off when I am listening to music

Quadrant

Blah, blah, blah you get the idea.

If you have every app you own and in the phone set to do "something", then you are going to run into priority issues when multi-tasking which will kill your battery for 1 b/c it is opening and closing radios and 2 for the RAM it is taking to figure out which priority take the lead. Hence why I have so many set to Do Nothing.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] serendipityguy:
Great reference Woodrube

Great reference Woodrube, I took the opportunity to link this thread in the Kernel Bible and reference your guidance there.

Thanks
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YuvalW:
Hi,

Guys with good battery usage, when your battery is near 0% how much time was your display on?

My display taked around 65% of the power consumption, and usually when it is on around 2.5 hours my battery dies. So it seems that even if I optimize all other things to reduce battery consumtion, when my display will reach ~4 hours the battery will die.

(My math may be wrong, I assume that my battery can provide power of X (linear consumption), and if my display takes 65% of it for 2.5 hours, then

0.65*X=2.5 ==> if all battery power went to display it would be X=2.5/0.65=3.8 hours).

And my brightness is set alsmost all the way to 0.

Just wonder how much display time you get...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sereogamax:
Thank you for very detailed tips and tricks.

Helped me a lot.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adityamunshi:
Im on chimera 1.1 and since the past few days my phone has been discharging 20% + overnight. Deep sleep works ok but wifi/ data switches on by itself and betterbatterystats shows powermanagerservice and wifi_rx wakelocks. What could be causing this?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
I would check to see what app is wakelocking and transmitting data overnight breaking DS. Find that app that is polling or opening and you'll find your source. Can you post a screen shot of betterbatterystats that shows it and I'll look more into it?
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adityamunshi:
Here are the screenshots and the Betterbatterystats file dump.

Thanks!
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Looks to me that your Facebook acct is sync-ing your contact and calendar. I would make sure you turn off your auto-sync and when you want to poll, do it yourself.

Also looks like you Android OS is taking a big chunk too. Might want to look at your media scanner and adjust the scanning frequency. I use PowerAmp as my music player and QuickPic as my gallery (I have completely uninstalled both Google Music and stock gallery) .

Are you uploading pictures through Picasa (Google+) or Facebook. Those will kill your battery bc it does it everytime you take a picture or download one and then scans your system the whole time looking for any new ones you might have.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vik5:
Nice
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brianzdman:
Great info
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] st3wy:
Awesome thanks a lot

sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e- rooted- unlocked- S-on- running CM10.1 NIGHTLY

kernel- Owl Predator v1.1

internal memory- 4gb B)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Woody:
Please refer to the thread in the T-Mobile SGS3 (SGH-T999) section, as that is the phone I have had for a while now and I update that thread more frequently. Many, many things in that thread are from this one, but I have added several more features, apps, tweaks,...to that one.

[How to]--->Simple Guide to Better Battery Life

Thread Closed
[Bravo General] marquae11:
I'm creating this to see what everybody had been through before the bravo. Maybe you're a new smart phone user or maybe you've had your fair share of smart phones this forum is to let everyone get to know each other.

I had a backflip, blackberry curve, and iPhone 3gs before my bravo.
[Bravo General] josuearisty:
Before BRAVO I had a Moto Cliq, but I still own 3 Android phones alogn with BRAVO:

2 Cliq XT and a Backflip.

And a dump phone :D Moto VE66 (not so dump)

-------------------------------------------------------

I wanna stay with this phone for some time, I really wait that the camera is fixed on gingerbread!! :o

And someday we can use ICS with kernel changes. :o
[Bravo General] helldogg75:
First smartphone. Hoping to do some testing soon.
[Bravo General] Junkyardjames87:
I have a bravo. Before a solstice. Before that, razr's. A v3m, v3r and v3c. All were running custom roms (thanks to modmymoto.com) and sold later on. Bravo is my first "smart" phone but solstice was my first touch screen.

And my bravo is rooted, unlocked, and overclocked.
[Bravo General] intfranknet:
Its my First Android, i like! but i hope have ICS or Gingerbread soon haha