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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ace0603:
NFL Rival

It works on my Asus Iconia A500.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ssconceptz:
Just an FYI if you can download from another device you own and back up using Titanium it does in fact work on our devices. I just tried it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Live2Follow:
Ya, but will it attach to the market for updates?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blestsol:
Works on mine and I downloaded it straight from the market. Completely ignores my touchpad though lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
I have it on mine
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ssconceptz:
Sure will if you bought it and its in your list.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LocutusEstBorg:
No it will not. They're forcing legit buyers to turn to warez. Practically every game I've bought from them is no longer compatible with my SGS2.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lovfors:
Hi!

I'm considering buying a lapdock in the US because it is much cheaper then in Sweden.

I'm a bit curios if this would work, would i be able to change the keyboard layout? I'm aware that the physical symbols on the keyboard wont match.

Also, I'm gonna use this with a Atrix from the UK, and from what I know, no ROMs are based on the nordic version on 2.3, If that would change anything?

Or is it strictly based on the language chosen in the language settings?

Thanks for your help!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farooknaji:
I've just switched from Android (running MIUI Rom on my Galaxy S) to Windows Phone on a HTC Titan running 7740. One of the things that's bugging me (other than toasts disappearing and no central store of notifications) is that Facebook notifications for me always seem to be 5 minutes delayed. If someone sends me a Facebook message or posts on my wall, the notification always takes 5 minutes to come through to my phone. This happens whether i'm on Wifi or 3G. I've got notifications set to 'As they arrive' but the delay persists. This is especially annoying when someone sees my Facebook status as Online and tries chatting to me and all my replies are 5 minutes late.

Is this the same for everyone on Mango? My outlook/exchange notifications come through instantly so I wonder if this is a Facebook issue or if its the Windows Phone implementation of push notifications.

I also find the Facebook Live Tile is slow to update - it will show I have a notification, i'll read that notification but the Live Tile doesn't update for a while.

Replies are much appreciated!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
Facebook notifications are slow as he'll. Just the way it is...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prohibido_por_la_ley:
In the Facebook app notifications are a little bit delayed, but when chatting its almost instant like texting. At least for me anyway.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alcoholic:
Notifications barely work and when they do, they are atleast 10 mins delayed. I've noticed this for most of the apps including kik,Facebook,whatsapp,weather channel.

Most of the time I don't receive push and have togo into the app to see that I have messages
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JVH3:
Some information that would be worth including with the posts from users experienceing problems.

Location and carrier. It's pretty easy to set up your profile to display these automatically.

Like the poster above from Chicago, chatting is nearly instantaneous for me in the Minneapolis area.

I did recieve a friend request notification about 30 seconds after I had received it on my iPhone.

Different Notification have different settable priorities by the developers.

So, recieving a Toast about a friend request could be considered by the develoeprs to be low priority, since it does not require an immediate response.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
I moved from Louisiana to Pennsylvania. They're still slow as hell. Everywhere in between, there was no change. The Vibrant with the Official Facebook Apps has no issue anywhere, nor does the iTouch when used in various places on WiFi.

If it is high priority on every other platform, I don't see why it cannot be high priority here.

It's called a Social Network for a reason. Friend requires are high priority on this...

The issue just isn't about friend request. Chat, Messages, Posts, Picture Comments, Photo Tags, etc. are all more than considerably slower than on other platforms. EVERYTHING is slower.

Maybe Facebook is just low priority on this platform, period? I'm jumping the gun because you'll eventually get there, it seems...
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FiyaFleye:
Facebook app activity notifications are instant. Chat notifications are instant. Every other app that's supposed to be instant is. However, the "Me" tile is delayed, but we all know that.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prohibido_por_la_ley:
maybe if you'd just sign in at one location only it would work alot better because I'm having no issues at all.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
Maybe they should fix it to work correctly. Everyone else's clients work. I'm not the issue :-)
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Avandor:
Usually have Androids to test around the house and both WP7 and my current Android work fine for FB notifications.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
I didn't say they didn't work. I said they were slow as hell. If I was so obviously wrong, this thread wouldn't exist. I am not the OP. People on other forums are having the same complaints about the PUSH Notification speed for third party apps on this platform.

Again: Issue is not the notifications "Not Working." Issue is that the Notifications are noticeably delayed compared to Android and iOS (and Blackberry and WebOS) handsets. Sometimes you get the Notifications 10 minutes to an hour after the Facebook applications on Android and iOS, which come in at virtually the same time. I notice this on a daily basis, because I always have my Vibrant, HD7, and iTouch 4 with me and I'm almost always on a WiFi connection.

Since I always have those devices with me, it's not necessarily a deal breaker, because I tend to just use those phones for everything except Sending/Recieving SMSes and making calls, anyways. However, if the HD7 was my only/lone device, it WOULD be a huge issue for me.

The whole concept of PUSH notifications is that they aren't delayed because the server PUSHes them to your phone the instant they come in. That is not happening for a lot of apps on WP7 right now. The Notifications are late 95% of the time, sometimes unacceptably so.

Everytime a Notification is late, it basically forces me to use another device to respond to that Notification. Do you see how that can frame someone's "perspective" of the user experience?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prohibido_por_la_ley:
mine aren't late, usually a few seconds to a couple mins at the most. Not an issue at all and my HD7 is the only device I carry.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JVH3:
Try keeping WiFi off on your Windows Phone 7 with a SIM in.

It looks like WiFi is shutting off when the phone screen shuts off. When I let my phone sit for a while, and then turn the screen back on, the WiFi icon is animated. Then it turns solid, which I am guessing means that is was connecting and is now connected.

Obviously, no push notification will come through if WiFi is not connected and no SIM is in the phone.

I have not noticed any delays when I don't have WiFi on. So, there might be some problem related to data, where WiFi does not transition to 3G.

I have also noticed that WiFi shuts off on the iPhone and reconnects when you turn the screen on.

I am starting to think that delays might be related to this.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
It happens even when WiFi is off, plus, when the WiFi shuts off the phone falls back to 3G and I get a full 3G signal here.

You're not onto anything :P

The Vibrant is still way faster than the HD7 when I'm away from Home and Off of WiFi. Obviously the iTouch won't get anything off of WiFi.

Additionally, the device does not sleep WiFi when it's plugged into a charger and I use USB extenders and almost always have them on a charger when I'm at home or in the car. My phone charge cables are like 20 feet long, Lol.

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I'm changing carriers in two months and going down to one phone. I can assure you I will not have to worry about this when that happens. It's not something I should have to deal with, and it's not something you or anyone else should have to deal with either.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ROCOAFZ:
Are you just talking about the facebook app or people's hub integration?

People's hub is always up to date for me and messages through it are instant. I don't use the facebook app so not sure there. Neither do groups (like the dog park group i am part of) and bugs me the most. The app says it does but when you click on a notification it takes you to the facebook mobile and says not found. For groups i use IE9. Works great even as the desktop version. Why even use the app when you have that and the people's hub?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FiyaFleye:
Oh my, N8ter saying that Android does something faster than Windows Phone and that Windows Phone is ruining a user experience model. And he's saying they need to make it work properly? What a surprise!

My notifications come in within 1-10 seconds, most of the time they'll come through on my phone before they come in on my girlfriend's Android in a picture we're both tagged in, the platform isn't the problem.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
People polls when opened so of course its always up to date. I am talking about push notifications for the Facebook app and message hub Facebook chat. And various other third party apps. Something is wrong with the way Microsoft handles push notifications.

People hub social stuff does not update in the background. It clearly polls whenever you open it up, just like Samsung social hub in touchwiz 3.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farooknaji:
I second that. You need the facebook app to receive toast notifications when something happens in facebook. But this push notification for me is delayed and noticeably so compared to Android and iOS. This is the case when using wifi or 3g and is the case on my HTC Titan and HD7. This isn't a HUGE deal for wall posts (though it is annoying), but i've had to turn my facebook status through WP7 onto Appear Offline, because chat notifications are delayed and when you appear to people on facebook as Online they expect a faster response.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manoli87:
I get FB chat messages instantly on my Focus. Notifications from the FB application aren't as quick but never been delayed for more than a few minutes. Never been a problem. I also play scrabble a lot with friends and as soon as they make there move (there sitting across from me), I get a push notification a second later. So the push notifications are working great for me. Maybe a format of your HTC Titan will help?
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceesheim:
I can only compare with windows7 and wp7 but I always get notifications faster on my phone then my pc (always)

pc on wifi and phone on 3g.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
No.

Most of us have already Factory reset multiple times. Before Mango the volatile PUSH notifications were a HUGE issue and the common remedy to fixing it (until they broke again) was to Factory Reset. A quick search on this forum can confirm this.

PUSH Notifications have always had issues on WP7. I don't know why people are acting like they somehow became perfect over night. They're still problematic.

@ Other Person:

Seriously you cannot compare a PC to a phone it's not even the same thing. We're talking about Mobile Devices, and I don't know anyone who carries around a Windows 7 (not Windows Phone 7, btw) smartphone or Tablet - a Notebook or Netbook most likely wouldn't make it through a work day if kept on...

We're talking about PUSH Notifications on smartphone devices. This likely has less to do with the actual OS and more to do with Microsoft's infrastructure. I do not believe developers (including Microsoft, since they developed the FB app) are intentionally lagging their PUSH notifications.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JVH3:
Wow, dissing a mods post. Please keep up that behavior and maybe one of them will give you a nice vacation.

Curious as to your qualifications to determine, "This likely has less to do with the actual OS and more to do with Microsoft's infrastructure."

If your going to make a statement like that, you need to have a good reputation as someone with strong technical knowledge. Or be able to back it up with hard facts. Not anecdotal evidense.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
< Top part deleted, cause you're baiting... >

As far as the infrastructure comment, I make that comment because it's a common issue with third party PUSH Notifications on this platform. Trivial research will lead you to many complaints. That leads me to believe (notice I didn't state it was fact, I simply said it had less to do with the OS and likely more to do with Microsoft's infrastructure and the way they dispatch the notifications) that the issue is not in the OS but in the infrastructure for 2 reasons:

1. I know the data is coming from Facebook and Windows Live in a timely manner, because on my iOS and Android devices, across numerous clients (Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Trillian for Android and iOS, BeejiveIM for Android and iOS, WLM for Desktop Windows and iOS) the data comes in almost instantly. By data, I mean the PUSH Notification. The Vibrant and iTouch almost always go off at practically the same exact time, followed often much later by the WP7 device. It doesn't matter if it's on 3G or WiFi, it's always late, and sometimes several minutes to upwards of a half hour or more late.

2. WP7 is the only platform that has lagging push notifications and message delivery speed - even for WLM and Facebook chat. I have also owned two Blackberry smartphones, and they were never late on PUSH Notifications, either.

So, since:

1. PUSH Notifications are on par on 3 other platforms that I've used and/or compared side by side with my WP7 device on the same connection, and

2. The WP7 device is the only one that is lagging, and

3. PUSH Notifications on all 4 of these platforms ultimately pass through the OS Vendor's PUSH Notification servers...

It's not out of the realm of possibility that the issue lies in Microsoft's infrastructure. Especially, seeing as how their PUSH Notification infrastructure has - in the past - had a reputation for being wildly unreliable (and no, they aren't the only ones who have ever had push issues, but none have had these lag issues consistently for over a year).

It's pretty basic science, isn't it?

I don't think anyone else in any of these threads have "investigated" this issue using as many devices and as many clients as I have. Do so, and I think you will easily come to the same hypothesis as I have.

Like I said, I have displayed this on video already, twice, with at least 4 messaging/social clients running across 3 devices and the WP7 device always displayed the inconsistent message delivery and lagging push notifications.

So tell me, how many devices have you sat side by side and tested the PUSH notification delivery speed on to see how far behind the WP7 device was lagging? Do I even want to know? Lol... ...

Additionally, Microsoft initially engineered WP7 to only allow max 15 apps on a device to recieve PUSH notifications (not sure if this has been done away with), which leads me to believe that they were aware that their infrastructure could be overwhelmed and lead to issues (like delayed dispatch of notifications to users' devices).
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Avandor:
Same results here... my WP7 notifications (and yes we are speaking FB here) are faster getting to my Trophy than to my laptop.

I understand that some of you are having issues with delayed notifications, but the results aren't the same across the board, so stop being thick and blaming the OS.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JVH3:
Live Tiles went to 30 with Mango - 1 link to that. Google can find many more.

http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-mango-s-push-notifications-and-live-tile-support-video

Little bit on how push works with Notifications. This was touched on in the video above. (These 2 links are pre-Mango)

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ft-push-notifications-for-windows-phones.aspx

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...microsoft-push-notification-works-part-2.aspx

In order to provide information to your phone each provider, such as Facebook, must use a CloudService to send Microsoft Push Notification Services, which sends it to your device. It's quite possible that Facebook does not immediately send it's updates to MPN. This would explain why other apps seem to get instantaneous notification. It's not really Facebook sending the update, it is the cloud service that the Facebook app uses that sends it to MPN to send to your phone.

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As I have previously stated, I use an LG Quantum with Mango and I also use an iPhone 4S. I carry both with me. Both are active and on AT&T at the same time.

There are plenty of users reporting that notifications are not always delayed. For me, only occasionally has there been any delay, but nothing significant.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ceesheim:
@ Other Person:

at leased try to spell my name !!!!!

Its Cees Heim.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
I didn't go back to reread the post.

And Microsoft developed the Facebook app, not Facebook. Notifications for wlm are also lagging, and that's purely a Microsoft service.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prohibido_por_la_ley:
you obviously didn't see what I said on the last page. The reason you are having issues is because you are logged in multiple places so of course that would cause an issue so just stop ok? On a side note a couple of times I was connected to both WLM on the messaging hub and on the PC and my messages arrived to both within a reasonable amount of time.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
HD7 Toast

iTouch

The toast was 5 minutes late on Wp7 according to the timestamp on my vibrant (inc). 5 minutes is a long time for that, you know.

Vibrant receives same time as the iTouch... Confirmation:

Maybe I'm just holding the phone wrong.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N8ter:
I've already posted two videos displaying this. Everyone in the forum seen them. I'm not going to entertain your drivel with any more responses. I had 3 devices and a pc in the videos running 5 or more clients. The only one that choked was the Mango client.

Really go do what I did and show me the device working flawlessly and maybe I'll consider another response.

Your use of the uber subjective term "reasonable" is a cop out, btw.

Everyone seen the issue in my video. The only result I that they switched from calling me a liar to telling me it's by design and working as intended.

5+ minute push notification lag behind literally every other major platform is not a reasonable user experience. Apparently everyone else can ensure prompt delivery except Microsoft?

Finally the time stamp on that post on the Facebook website is 8:32, so the android and iOS devices delivered the push notification probably within 30 seconds of it being posted to Facebook.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prohibido_por_la_ley:
5 minutes is ok for just a status comment etc,now for an IM that may be an issue but there's also a delay sometimes when SMS are delivered.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JVH3:
I would be seriously annoyed if I got a notification everytime someone commented on my status.

Commenting on a status in my view, was never meant to be real time chat.

They beauty of Facebook is being able to keep up with your friends despite that fact that real life often times makes it impossible to see each other on a regular basis or respond in real time.

Chatting is one thing, but status comments are a whole different ball game.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PG2G:
Facebook notifications definitely aren't as fast as they could be. I don't think it is an inherent issue with the OS or Push Notification service though. This video from developers of CarbonWP shows that notifications can be as fast on Windows Phone as they are on iOS.

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[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prohibido_por_la_ley:
yet you still haven't managed to prove me wrong, get real dude. You have got to be the most delusional and arrogant person that I've ever seen on a forum, and that's saying something. If your social life was that good that you have to keep up with 50 notifications on statuses at once, you would actually be out and about with these people rather than spending countless hours on here and WPCentral complaining about how slow their posts get to you.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xHausx:
Looks like push notifications work fine for everything else.

Perhaps some of you just have too much faith in facebook's ability to write a decent app? From what I've seen of their mobile apps you either use iOS or you take what you can get.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PG2G:
The Facebook app for Windows Phone isn't written by Facebook, it is either written by Microsoft or (more likely) a company contracted out by Microsoft. That is another reason why there might be more of a delay than a real first party app. The Facebook Graph API suggests that notifications will be pushed out within a couple of minutes
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmelo76:
Thread cleaned

Please let's keep the Thread clean!
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weide43:
Sometimes it is your internet connection
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JVH3:
importance of real time updates - age correlation

I was talking with my boss today about Facebook and status posts and comments. Neither of us care anything about getting real time updates of comments on statuses. I am 39 and he is in his upper 40s.

However, his 13 year old daughter gets very concerned when people don't respond to her posts or comments in a timely fassion. This gets to the point where she wonders if they are still friends or if they are upset with her if a response hasn't come within 10 minutes.

Most of my peers at work also do not care about these real time updates for comments. All are in generally in the same age group as my boss and me. We have people from multiple races and religions. The youngest is probably about 30.

So, I am thinking that age is probably a big factor in the importance of this. Gender could play a role as well. The type of occupation might also play a role in the importance. But, I am really thinking that age is the major factor.

I am wondering what Microsoft considers the target age for Window Phone 7.

And if there is any study relating age to the importance of Facebook comment response timeliness.