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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beavertank:
Were the cancellation/notice of "wifi issues" from official launch partners? (Sorry, I don't know who the Canadian launch partners are)

If not, then I'd expect this is the justification they were given for there not being stock for non-official launch partners and what they're passing on.

The wifi thing, though, does make sense. I remember at least one review (the link evades me) where the guy was having serious wifi issues, and then got a replacement tablet which didn't have them.

So my guess is there's some sort of production issue seen on SOME tablets, and they're catching it in QC and sending them back, meaning the stock they have to ship for launch is cut way down (which would also jive with the Amazon excuse for their cancellations).

...then again they may be shipping them all and letting the early adopters do the QC, like what I seem to remember hearing with the original transformer. But that seems a bit unlikely given the excuses/stock underruns that have been going around.

Edit: Ahh, it was the Anandtech review -- http://www.anandtech.com/show/5178/an-update-on-transformer-prime-battery-life-wifi-issues
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
yes both NCIX and memory express were listed by asus as places to preorder the prime
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SwissyChief:
I'll let you guys know what's up when they send out the mass-email. I'd be interested in knowing what kind of release date/window they give me with this whole delay thing. Oh and PRAYING for a free dock or something. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beavertank:
The squeaky wheel gets the grease... if this isn't an across the board delay a bit of complaint might get you something, if not quite your wildest dreams.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
At least B&H seems to be unaware of this or their support just does not know.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] avinash60:
Interesting how this is happening with the preorders in Canada but the device has been selling in Taiwan (Wasn't the release date 1 of December there, I think a few people have already got their hands on the Prime in Taiwan).

I would have expected the production issues to be present everywhere, including on the Taiwanese Primes.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SwissyChief:
Well to be honest I don't think we'd hear too much about problems with this device in Taiwan... For all we know there's a recall going on right now. Where would we even get that info?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I don't think this effects the u.s. Batch.. Seems to inky originate from Canadian preorders.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrGiggles:
Hmm I will have to check my order with NCIX also
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
well it is possible it was one specific batch that came out bad and what they decided to do was screw over a few retailers completely and ship to other retailers as opposed to being short with everyone.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
It might have been only one color but that's bull if they do that!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
In two or three months you'll be able to walk in to any reseller and pick it up off the shelf. Those same shelves will have next-gen tablets from other manufacturers too. If they were going to "screw over a few retailers" it wouldn't be too smart to start with the largest in the U.S., Best Buy and Amazon. Asus needs them much more then they need Asus. That is if Asus intends to sell the Prime in large quantities. Let's go wild and say there are 10K people on this forum all eager to get the Prime. What happens after that? They need to sell hundreds of thousands to recoup their R&D investment. And after having to give out $30 gift certificates to people they disappointed, don't think Amazon won't retaliate in some form if GameStop or another smaller reseller got inventory when they didn't. Android tablets are at best a niche and no reseller's annual revenue would be dented with or without them. Look at what HP had to pay Best Buy for the TouchPad debacle. And HP's a much more important player in the greater scheme of things than Asus.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] spjust:
Newegg response

I chatted with a Newegg rep today and asked if I needed to change my shipping address for my TFP order. He indicated that the ship date had been moved to the 27th because of shipping delays and if I would be gone past that time that I should change the address. I asked if it was because of shortages or no product at all. He said no product at all, but that if they did receive product before the 27th they would be sent out. I have the full transcript on my computer at work. but this is the highlights of the conversation. I was looking forward to it before Christmas but I guess that is not to be.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] hauj0bb:
I haven't heard anything from Frys, but sounds like we might be better off waiting until they get this wifi thing sorted out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bfpengi:
Spoke with a Frys Rep today. They were calling to verify shipping/billing info for my preorder. I asked when the ETA was and they said up to 4 wks before they should receive the first batch.

AWESOME.... I cancelled my order.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ravynmagi:
Without question, I'm going to wait for CES now and see what else might be on the near horizon.

Acer, Lenovo, and Samsung all working on tablets with higher resolution displays. Hopefully Acer and Lenovo's are chunky pieces of garbage and hopefully Samsung learns out to add a micro SD slot to something.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Swiftks:
I'm still wondering what's going on with my Amazon 64 GB version... as far as I know Amazon was one if the only ones to sell the 64GB.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SwissyChief:
Hehe ya, I have a feeling that Asus is going to lose a couple of the potential early adopters. No matter how much of a technophile you are, what they're putting us through is borderline abuse!

I've been checking multiple times per day for updates about when this thing will get shipped and hits here and there from you guys to see what's up with the device all around the world, and still after about 3 weeks since pre-ordering started we have nothing!

I really think they just gave us a fake ballpark estimate release in December just to get pre-orders while they knew all along that the thing would NEVER make that deadline. I'm probably going to keep my pre-order, but if they give me some ridiculous date like end of January, you can bet I'll cancel and wait for a quad-core with 2GB of RAM and 4G connectivity.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
The thing is, from marketing perspective, early adopters are not worth all that much. They come and go. The entire point of being an early adopter is getting something before everyone else, the feeling of having something new that majority of the world does not have, the feeling of having something cutting edge in your hands.

I really doubt that many who are all doom and gloom here will not buy the tablet. Few might, but that's a minority. We are frustrated by the release, but unless something better comes out (especially with a dock as good as this one), we're going to buy it if we came here with the intention to buy. Because even if they announce something good at CES, it won't be out for quite a while.

So it won't affect Asus at all. At the end of the day, we want it. If the 'launch' was rumoured to be in January, we'd be waiting with money ready just as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xGary:
Well for one the hype dies down a lot. The hype was highest last week when all the reviews came out with all the rumored dates. I may want the Transformer now, but who knows what will happen tomorrow? Especially in the tech world today where something new is coming everyday. Take the Galaxy Nexus for example, back in October/November when it was all hyped up I was SO getting it. Now I am getting the Transformer instead. If Asus doesn't hurry up and get these things out before the year who knows what will be coming out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
Nothing will be coming out at least until spring that will 'rock the tech world'. Sure that CES will display some awesome devices, but they won't be coming out before summer and autumn either, if at all.

The amount of people who will not buy Prime if it won't come out in December is very very small in the grand scale of things. Reality is that most of us would buy Prime if the release was announced for January just as well. Some won't, but they will be replaced by new people who discover it and end up buying it in January, especially since most people spend a lot of money for things not for themselves in December.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
I don't get u guys. So it got a bit delayed. Is that a reason not to buy it? Guess it is if you need to be the first guy in the world with tegra3.

But if you just want a good tablet with a nice keyboard dock and multiple ports. Its stillthe best thing in January. Only other thing that's interesting me is the HTC thing with the special pen for handwriting. But so far htcs tablets are way too expensive. Don't think that'll change.

So i don't see any tablet coming out any time soon with more features at the same price and same or better hardware. I think its a sweet spot that Asus has.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] coasterg:
Some people are early adopters and want it now. Others want to give (or receive) it as a gift for the holidays.

I'm one of the second, the 32gb grey I ordered from Newegg is a gift and I really wanted it for Christmas. So its disappointing to watch these dates go past with Asus just promoting the heck out of it but with no product in sight or a definitive release date.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Smyc151:
But if the delay is because of the wifi issue, it's legitimate. Yeah, they may lose a few early adopters now, but if they released a faulty product that number would increase exponentially. Imagine the hundreds of one-star Amazon reviews (which won't go away long after the issue is fixed) saying "don't by this tablet, it won't connect to wifi!", and the thereafter permanent stigma attached to this device. As much as it pains me to say it, it's far better for virtually everyone involved to wait it out and have all problems fixed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
Exactly correct.

And people might think this only affects 'some shipments'. But it might affect every device out there and it could be a hardware flaw (remember that compared to previous Transformer, the new one is in aluminum casing with seemingly no place for antenna to get a signal easily (this was mentioned in some review)). This might be a serious design flaw that is not easily fixed.

Galaxy Nexus had a launch just like that last month and it has a hardware flaw that was 'fixed' by software update. Basically its 2G radio caused interference for volume rocker and dropped volume during calls and 2G data. They fixed it by blocking commands that are too fast to come from a 'user'.

But fixing WiFi with software seems unlikely. I really do not want to receive a device I cannot use in WiFi since that is the ONLY way that device can connect to internet most of the time.

So, I say let them take their time. I don't want to send something back I'm paying $900 for in total.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] js931:
For me it's all understandable that new products can have some problems at launch and that there can be delays.

But i will NEVER understand, why the companies don't release any status updates when they have dozens of twitter/facebook/g+ accounts.

All you need is ONE LITTLE POST every few days/weeks from 3 employees:

- software engineer guy

- hardware production guy

- marketing/sales guy

This way you would even get a steady stream of media buzz in the important tech blogs etc...

I just dont get it, it's not that hard :confused:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] techjunkie9194:
I agree with you completely. This is my primary gripe. Ok, so there is a problem(s) just be up front with everyone. I can accept a manufacturing issue where an assembly robot zigged when it should have zagged or whatever the issue is. What I can't accept is being strung along. However, this is hardly going to keep me from buying the Prime. I am just going to have to work on self improvement in the area of patience. :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] duckied:
Asus never stated that it was an WiFi issue lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Smyc151:
I agree mostly, but Asus never gave an official release day. They've said they expect it to be released in December, and it's barely one week into the month. Even if you argue that the 19th was an official date, that's still well over a week away. When that date passes with no news from Asus, then complain about no status updates. As far as we know, aside from the Amazon debacle, everything may be on track according to plan.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rob2002:
I also pre-ordered from Memory Express.

No email from them as of yet.

I pre-ordered the 32GB Grey model.

They initially offered all 4 models for pre-order on their website.

For the last week only the 32GB grey model is listed on their website.

This could be a way to try and appease people who pre-ordered the other models which are not going to be available at release.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SwissyChief:
I mean they officially stated the 12th and 19th in NA, while the 1st it was release in Taiwan. I just don't get why they apparently can't stick to that and reassure us through their Twitter that everything's going as planned. Instead they just ignore the delays and post about how great the tablet is. I just want them to admit something's gone wrong AND GIVE US A REAL ETA. From ASUS, not the resellers. How hard can that be?!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] infinitemethod:
I wanted the original Transformer and it took Asus forever to get it to the States earlier this year. I tried every store I could think of. Couldn't find one. Then when I heard they were coming out with quad core ones, I said I'd get one of these.

It's just one of my principals I guess, it says I am supposed to get it before Christmas, if I don't, then I'm cancelling on principal. I don't really need it anyways, but I do want it. I don't like being dicked around though and if they do, they don't get my $700.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] polbit:
I wouldn't go as far as principal, but I want a tablet before I leave for Christmas vacation. If ASUS can't get their act together to get Prime delivered in the jolly season, then I'll be taking my money somewhere else.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tbns:
I would be very tempted to cancel if I don't get my tablet before Christmas. It is what it is.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I think it does affect only some units (out of all the review that I read, which was at least 10, "only" 2 had a wifi issue; so, let's say 20%), and that what ASUS is doing now is literally inspecting each and every unit. That could explain the delay, and the fact that there seems to be SOME supply coming means that they could be releasing stock after testing.

I'm settling into the idea that if I get one from one of my two preorders (I even cancelled one that would require shipping back to return), then I'll have to hope it doesn't have an issue. If I don't get one this month, then I'll just assume that's a good thing because it' mean avoiding an issue I'll just have to deal with later.

I'm not in the camp of thinking someone else is going to come out with a "better" tablet. Some of the crazy devices that have leaked (the Lenovo and Samsung come to mind) will almost certainly be significantly more expensive, which I don't want, and I'm sure they won't have the ASUS keyboard dock, which I do want. So, yes, I'm disappointed, but I'll survive.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] effingnewguy:
Same here. Amazon still says this item will ship after the 25th when I check my order.

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Just chatted with Amazon and obviously no update. However, they said they would credit my one day shipping. I didn't even ask for a break. It's better than a fork in the eye I suppose.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mi7chy:
I hope Asus sort out this clusterf*ck. Product life cycles are so short these days that it benefits them to seize the window of opportunity to get these in peoples' hands before/by Christmas. It can easily go from a high demand item to yesterday's news in no time with competing products in the pipeline.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/08/samsu...et-with-retina-resolution-tablet-in-february/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
Me too. I have a Bestbuy preorder on tablet and gamestop preorder on the dock(even though they absolutely refuse to confirm what @#%& COLOR they will be sending. I couldn't grab both together on my debit card, and by Wednesday they were the only retailer offering a release date (12/13) even if that's BS it sounds better than "unknown" that J&R and Adorama had. This is just more freaking Prime release crap. I don't expect any better from the retailers, but Asus? They make extraordinary hardware, but pretty much suck at everything else.

I have seen "official" dates of the 8th, 12th, and 19th, all claimed.to be from Asus. The only one I REALLY believe was the change from 12th to the 19th, heck, they needed the extra week to reroute all those 32gb. Amethyst Grey Primes from Amazon to the other retailers, lol!

Actually I feel really.bad for ANYONE who gets their preorder yanked, for any reason. I gave Amazon such a hard time, they gave me $100 credit toward any Amazon (not one of their "sellers") product, which was better than the $20-30 they gave others, and I didn't even have a preorder cancelled. They removed the Prime from my cart while I was stalling, but I was seriously pissed, and I do a lot of business with Amazon.

Cool heads will prevail. I haven't seen the first Asus Transformer Prime related death yet, anyone esle? You know, like " man found with bullet hole in forehead and empty Prime box in hand?" Or "man found, victim of rage induced stroke... Had BestBuy on the phone in his left hand"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tbns:
I think I've contacted Amazon a hundred times in the past few weeks; I feel bad about it. Contacted them today:

Alvaro:Hello, my name is Alvaro. I'll be happy to help you.

Currently the estimated delivery date is still after Dec 25, and we have no information if its going to be available earlier.

Me:I see. Do you know if ASUS is delaying the tablets?

Alvaro:Yes, asus decided to delay the release day.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] effingnewguy:
I wouldn't feel bad...well maybe a little. But, Amazon chose to take part in this and it's up to them to keep pressure on ASUS.

As for the reply from the Amazon rep, the guy I chatted with this morning has no clue. I don't see how any of them would really know what's going on. At this point, I'm fully expecting these to ship after the 25th and if it happens sooner, that's great.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Swiftks:
So this kind of makes things interesting... Apple to release iPad 3 in Feb.:

http://briefmobile.com/apple-to-release-ipad-3-in-february-with-retina-display

I'm still getting my Prime, b/c I hate Apple's closed source $hit... but this may change some minds... I mean if you're not going to get it until Jan. anyway, what's another month.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Smyc151:
I was assured that the release date is January 9 :rolleyes: Nobody there knows what's going on.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeptikal:
That's interesting. I can't imagine anyone that is legitimately into the TFP would switch to the iPad3 but that's just me. I love competition though. It only helps us the consumer.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] juvenile43:
I just called bb for the 3rd time and was once again assured b4 Xmas. She said if asus were to break contract they woulda known by now and so would I. Is it possible that people r starting rumors in order to get people to cancel then bam! A preorder spot just opened up? Just a thought :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SwissyChief:
Yup, just look at Canadian ISPs and cellphone companies. The BIG THREE. There's a monopoly therefore the consumer pay the price, literally. Cell phones plans are over 3 year terms, plans are so expensive, everything is capped and premiums for passing the caps are through the roof. If anything, the competition vs Apple's iPad might bring down their prices. MAYBE then would I consider an iPad3. But there's not way in hell I'm paying over 100$ more than what the device is worth just because it has a shinny apple logo on the back.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] adiliyo:
for some reason i'm kind of second guessing an analyst from citi as a source for this "news"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] g0t0:
just got off the phone with BB. My preorder seems unchanged, according to the guy i talked to. Said i should recieve it between the 18- 23. Incidentally, i saw this from an earlier post. If my Transformer gets delayed past Xmas, I might just cancel and wait for the Samsung in Feb. 11inches would be PERFECT for what use my tablet for. Wonder what the pricing would be though....:confused:

Update: NVM... frigin thing said uveiled IN Feb, not out by then.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Precisely. I'd guess the Samsung will be out sometime over the summer. They're probably only announcing (if the rumor's true at all) in February because that's when the iPad 3 is rumored to come out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
I think chunky is a thing of the past, at least in high-end tablets. The Toshiba Excite and Zoom2 are both slimmer then their predecessors. In fact, the Excite will be the slimmest and lightest full size tablet on the market. Too bad it's got a Qualcomm 1.5GHz CPU. I think going forward chunky will only work for low-end and mid-range tablets. It'll be interesting to see what Samsung does with additional ports. They're adding NFC for transfering data between devices using Android Beam but they also like to sell their propriatery adapters for HDMI, USB, and SD. I'm guessing the new Samsung Tab will priced at the top end of the market equal to the iPad3 and at least $100 more then similar Prime's.

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I'd guess March or April. With the rivalry between them and Apple I'd guess they've known Apple's intentions for a while (they were a chip and display supplier before the war started) and the device revealed in February might be pretty far along. Samung's got the resources to do pretty much anything they want. In the past three months they've launched the 7+, the 8.9, and the 7.7's about to go on sale in Asia.

Acer's Teg3 is rumored for January and Lenovo and HTC are Q1 which could be anytime between January and March. Acer and Lenovo will be Teg3, HTC's typically a Qualcomm shop but the next-gen Qualcomm chip isn't due out until Q2 so their's could be a let down spec wise.

If someone needs a tablet now there's no question the Prime's the one to buy. If you're replacing a tablet you're better off seeing what's coming in Q1. If you want a 3G tablet the Acer is launching with 3G connectivity at the same time as the Wi-Fi version making it the only near term choice for a next-gen tablet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] g0t0:
Don't Apple show off its iPad before they release it? I'm going to assume they well show it inFebruary then have it out pretty close to samsungs. The summer