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[Fascinate Android Development] bigjobber69:
You do see that your phone is never is 1400 or 1440 right?
[Fascinate Android Development] adude247:
quick question about using cpu spy, can't wait to see the lulz from this post, but gotta ask, my cpu settings are 1440 max and 800 min with ondemand governor, with cpu spy my phone has been using 800 for 59% and 1440 for 12% with 26% in deep sleep, so do I lower my min/max settings in order to get better battery life, or should I go from Glitch v13 to this one so a little leprechaun will appear from inside my phone, give me the pot of gold, kill my dog, and run off with my wife and my phone :confused:
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Really?

I said this before.

Im still merging.

Never ised git before

So my git source is not ready.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
2.6 was updated 2 minutes later.

So I call it a first release.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Ill use yellow.
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
dont release kernels until your source is all squared away...its that simple
[Fascinate Android Development] notta:
I just want to "state my opinion"!

First off I feel bad for Enyo! Yeah he may have went about some ways that were a little un-orthodox for some, but people should be here to guide!

I would also like to take this opportunity to point out this is exactly why myself and I am sure others don't post there work here!

I'll admit I have only read about 15-20 posts of this whole bash on Enyo thing so I don't know the whole story. I really don't care!

Point is, Everybody man-up! Only you set an example!

Karma has it's way! ;)

Disclaimer: This is in no way an attempt to slander, flame or degrade another!

Enyo, if you like what you do, don't let anyone bring you down! But do your best to follow the books or should I say "Packets"! ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
in fairness i think we let him off easy...if anyone of us reported his cm7 kang known as espresso (see my evidence in the lulz thread) he would most likely be perma banned from xda or at least take some time off

if he tried this at rootzwiki he would have banned for good as well

and he posted a kernel first w/o source which is a gpl violation

theres nothing wrong with liking what you do, there is with something wrong with blatant lies, kanging and not crediting though
[Fascinate Android Development] notta:
He may have or may not have kanged things, not my call to make! Like I said, I didn't follow it! Either way if you track code all the way to beginning, there is a trail of kang with just about anything!

True proper credit should be given no matter the circumstance, hence my comment about giving guidance!

To further clarify I am not defending Enyo! I am merely defending the community on all aspects!

In short, things should be handled properly, not immaturely!

If he did something wrong or violated any terms, report it! He will learn if he wants to continue doing this!
[Fascinate Android Development] Skrazz:
Dear Mr. Twinkie, I hope you don't take any of these lulz as a personal attack, but motivation to take a break from posting these threads, and focusing on learning all you can and applying it to an original idea or concept. When you have something that works (after at least a few days of testing), then and only then is it time to share. You're disrupting the balance of a potential goldmine of knowledge for you and others. You are making too much noise as an amateur/apprentice developer and are on the road to discrediting any and all of your future work. When you learn the art of focus, the world will be yours. Good luck, and keep learning.
[Fascinate Android Development] notta:
I completely agree with your understanding! I most definately did claim I didn't follow the story and kangers do indeed reep what they sow!

I guess my point of all of it was at least for me...

It is very discouraging for someone that has wanted or wants to contribute work to the community!

Take me for example! I don't know the whole story because I can't and don't want to sift through all the non-sense to find it.. It still changes my outlook of ever wanting to release anything more then a theme!

If it has been proven then it is the responsibility of the person that proved such to report it!

Done! No more problems, no more clutter, no more loss of respect against members, no more non-sense work for the mods, maybe I wouldn't be flooded with ads when I visit xda because of all the extra work, no more implanting ideas into the youth thats gonna lead our future ... I could go on and on but you get the point!

I meant no harm to anyone in any of my comments!
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
Now don't take this the wrong way, but maybe you need to do some catching up before you post bro. Im sure if you clearly understood the whole situation, you would be editing your post faster than Enyo releases his kanged, untested work! Things were handled maturely in the beginning, but this crap has been going on since what early october? Dont take this personal because I appreciate what you do for the community. But seriously we all would not be trolling him so hard if he would not of blindly ignored well respected devs advice in the beginning. Now he is just Troll Bait and lucky to not be banned. Let us have our Lulz and lets not take things too serious. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] notta:
I don't take anything the wrong way unless you blatantly spell it out!

I stand behind my word! But ya, I should of read the whole story but I'm not defending anyone so there's no need...

On a side note the last thing I want to do is contribute to the problem! I won't post no more on the matter.. I'm content! ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
Wheres the code for espresso protector? Ivwouod imagine that the spirit orlf open source would require you to release the code for this new independently developed feature.

Unless of course espresso is just a buzzword and you are referencing the built in thermal limits.
[Fascinate Android Development] xwhofarted:
I understand your point but look at it as a whole, He is the ONLY "dev" being treated like this. So dont take this as the norm. If you wish to try developing please do so. you should not be discouraged because of one person. Trust me when i say NEW Devs are not shunned, as people think they are due to this [pardon my language] knuckle-head!

Look back at some of Enyo's original posts. you will see people helping him. he decided to ignore them.

Please if you are thinking of Dev work dont let THIS guy be your example. look at ALL of the other threads in the dev section, honest dev work is welcomed with open arms and appreciation.

I am sure he has been reported but he is still here i cant answer that for you.

So Please have fun and at least give it a shot! Good Luck

---------- Post added at 01:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:10 PM ----------

One of my fav Albert Einstein quotes :D
[Fascinate Android Development] notta:
Ok last one...

Ironic how that goes both ways...

No! --> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=842249
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
wow that was from awhile back :eek:

i think the fascinate community of november 2010 was a lot different from the of say late winter/spring 2011 (heyday of the root community in forum/irc presence if not actual #s)

at the time jt was the only "rom developer" present who really knew anything and was actively working on things

adrynalyne was taking classes and not doing anything (save for his lifesaving at the time voodoo uninstaller)

and you had deodexed and geeknik who didnt know anything and just took jts stuff and made it worse (and dirrk remember him? was just a kernel guy)

had the same thread been posted a few months later i think you would have gotten a better response

at that time i dont think id even released my first theme port yet :p

most of what ive learned and picked up has been from spending time in irc and back and forth in forums with those who know more than me (which is a lot of people)

sorry to see though that ur early entry into stuff was forgotten/negative :(
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
@notta: nitsuj17 hit it right on the head. Please, by all means give it a go if you think you can still have fun doing so. As long as you follow the rules, I think the community will be happy to welcome and support your efforts. When a user truly steps up to the dev plate (even for their own enrichment), the whole community stands to benefit. With our quickly aging platform combined with a still-large user base, I think you'll find that interest in additional development is much stronger now than it was a year ago. After all, most of us are contract-bound for two years anyway, so you kinda have a captive audience.

On a side note, even if unrelated to the OP, thanks for steering the thread toward fostering actual development. I don my best asbestos when saying this, but the whole "Enyo lulz" obsession is getting old REAL fast and is almost as much of a blemish on the community as the consistently-allowed kanging / flaunting of rules itself.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Retrokid's REVOlution theme was my favorite back then (I actually liked the DI01 version better than the DJ05 one ;))

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
yeah iirc i did matted blues and nextang first....but actually i did about half of the dio1 revolution theme as my first thing i did

but i had no clue how to edit some things and was feeling way too pressured to finish it so i turned it over to him as he was a much better themer than me at that point

then from there i did a billion themes and ports (dont miss doing that)
[Fascinate Android Development] wilshyre:
Thank god for the xda police that take upon themselves the dreadful burden of pointing out everyone else's wrongs and mistakes, otherwise we might actually have unlimited usage of cool new developments like this by budding new developers that just want to do something useful that other people will like and be thankful for, but unfortunately are new enough not to have a great understanding of complicated licenses and other such things. If it were not for these diehard, law-abiding, upright citizens, who else would track down these renegade developers and immediately hijack their threads with criticism and threats, thereby poisoning the chances of developments like this from becoming widely use or popular. I, for one, salute you, you men of the people, you governors of right and wrong, you soldiers of propriety! And its a good thing that you guys roam the forums in large bands of alliances, otherwise known as paTROLLS. Indeed, if not for these large teams of cowardly encouragers and instigators, your voices of pure reason might become generally lost in the clamor or appreciation that usually follow new and exciting developments.. And then, I might ask, who would guide the opinions of those of us that are ignorant and can only appreciate the simpler aspects of life due to your dedication to the framework and structures of hierarchy. My god, we would be all lost souls, groping blindly from one handhold to the next, just trying to find the next highpoint of our dreary, repetitive existence. Indeed, you are my comic book heros, stories to feed to my children of justice and the self-proclaimed avengers of justice!
[Fascinate Android Development] fulaman:
Enyo which link for your Kernel should I click on :) There are two links?

Also what ROM are you running laureanop?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
2.6 is the latest released version.

2.8 is being developed and.will take.some.time
[Fascinate Android Development] bestchoicedon:
I think those are still merging too! :)
[Fascinate Android Development] wilshyre:
Because he got rid of his post about me, and if he's willing to let it die, then I am too. I've made my point. But I did make a copy of it in case I need to bring it back.
[Fascinate Android Development] Skrazz:
tl;dr anyway.
[Fascinate Android Development] dablitzkrieg:
Keep flashing my friends
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
Enyo, when are we getting the Orville Redenbacher Pop Corn & Lulz RC kernel? You know the one that allows 2.4 oc capability so I can pop corn right off the screen of my device.
[Fascinate Android Development] nklenchik:
Sooo... all and all I still think Glitch v13 beats this thing out lol
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
I hope you're either kidding or on an AOSP MTD ROM :D

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] nklenchik:
Haha yeah I'm on an MTD :D
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
I don't know how it booted. captivate version 0.1. Ill probably release, though I am dreading it since its like 290-300MB.
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
galaxy sense will boot but it will never be fully functional

if they cant get the last stuff working on a sammy nexus phone, its not happening on this one
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Isn't sense opensourced now?

Can't we build it from there?
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
if you have to ask this question, then you arent qualified to do it

but for informational purposes:

no, sense or any oem overlay/skin has never been, nor will it ever be (most likely) open sourced

htc has released sdk for its MyPen stuff or some other app developer stuff but sense is still closed source

sense can be ported to non sense devices fully and functionally (so far) only on vanilla or aosp htc devices, in a similar manner to porting sense roms between sense phones
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Misunderstanding on my part.

But I saw they have a fully functional honeycomb port. Not fully but radio. That at least is worth porting.
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
if you want to spend the time and effort to port a rom that can do 25% of what a rom should do, then by all means

there might be 1 or....well 1 person who would like it
[Fascinate Android Development] nklenchik:
Could spend some time on that ics project that was started a while ago...I'd love to see some of that lol
[Fascinate Android Development] Jazz848:
@Enyo: were you thinking of this?

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/webOS-HP-Meg-Whitman-open-source-touchpad,14227.html

@nitsuj17: seen that? Thoughts?
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
Jt.has a legit one on rootzwiki
[Fascinate Android Development] Noonski:
As you might see some off topic banter is disappearing from this thread.

There's other ways to discuss TV shows than in a Kernel Dev Thread.

I'll be monitoring this thread a bit because I feel like banning some ass*.

If there's a GPL violation, then report it as such.

GPL-Los Illuminados** are the worst thing to come to XDA these last years in my opinion, give people some time and space to get their stuff together, but never forget Developing/skills/kernels/programming first, GPL and sourcing second. "Creativity does not blossom under the burden of rules"

Enyo, has shown his willingness to get everything in order, keep at it.

*Misplaced comical style for warning on my end unfortunately, I apologize but do not amend the sentence as you should now get it.

** PitchFork Villagers from Resident Evil 4
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
Post is changed but there's clearly no development going on here. And as far as I can see the required source code still hasn't been posted. Nor has there been any of the requested explanation or proving that this isn't a complete kang with some made up buzzword features.

As I said, arrested development.

Can we just lock these threads? It's ridiculous that xda won't do anything about ebyo at this point. Check in with joshkoss. Mr mod who jumps into threads without knowing the situation.
[Fascinate Android Development] Noonski:
I'm not one of the Moderators that get's into GPL compliance's.

But what is wrong with

https://github.com/EnyoDEV/bada

?

According to what I see he's made Changes to his Github 3 days ago.
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
Pretty much everything has been said in this thread in various places already. Some quick hits I suppose:

1. This is a straight kang. Nothing about this kernel is original.

2. Hyping of new features such as "espresso protector" but no code for any such features can be found anywhere

3. Constant trolling of the community with unfulfilled hype threads and posts since mid or early october

4. Constant posting of allegedly original work (which has proven time and again to simply be kangs) without credit followed by days and weeks of "the credit will be up soon". It appears in this case that op has finally at least figured out that minimal compliance in that regard.

At this point I rest with any further commentary and will simply ignore enyo threads though I will still have to deal with the damage that has been done and will continue to be done to the community. The trolling is simply a symptom of the larger problem and how the community is coping with this.
[Fascinate Android Development] kuronosan:
Because there is no actual development going on. He was told not to post or request threads be open unless he actually had something to download.

It's no wonder people keep leaving this site.
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
The vast majority of the gpl posts were made before he posted source

He only posted it because he got called on it
[Fascinate Android Development] gunnermike:
I geuss the rules dont apply to you? according to the rules, NO PROFANITY!! So why dont you ban yourself while your at it.
[Fascinate Android Development] imnuts:
Did you actually look at the commits? There is only one commit that does anything that Enyo actually did, and just from looking at the changes, I don't think the kernel would compile properly, let alone boot. All the other commits are stupid, such as changing 'y' to 'n' or '1' to '0'
[Fascinate Android Development] sageDieu:
Im really wondering if any of you guys with extra dev devices have tried installing this... I'd love to see a YouTube video of someone trying to install it, boot it, and then run at 1.9ghz and/or 50mhz for any amount of time without the phone committing suicide. Twould be lulz.

Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
@Noonski: if you're jumping into this thread "looking to ban some...," you've got the absolutely wrong attitude and have lost sight of your role as a moderator. There's nothing wrong with clearing out some off-topic banter, but if you're just looking for someone to ban, your authority has clearly gone to your head. Plus, the way that you portrayed yourself as all big and bad gives members a built-in appeal if you do ban them. No flaming has gone on here, and until you jumped in the profanity has more or less been kept in check (your use of profanity, btw, sets a poor example for users, as they see a moderator cussing, they think it's OK for them to cuss also). So if you want to come in guns blazing because we posted a bunch of comments about TV shows, that's your business. But know that your attitude will lead to a flood of complaints pouring into MikeChannon's PM inbox should you start banning people.

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
The reason it has not been updated in a while is because it is going to be mtd as well.

And going to try to use another file system as well. Other then BML/mtd
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
If you are making an mtd kernel that would be something different than wgat this is stated to be, which is tw gb bml
[Fascinate Android Development] Noonski:
You got a lot of nerve my friend.

A lot of people in this thread have been doing their best to be hurtfull and flood the thread with off topic banter.

I cleaned up without any repercussions** to anyone, I even checked the allegations against Enyo as far as I could and reported this thread for other GPL savy moderators.

@Skynet I do not jump into threads for my own pleasure, please don't turn my misplaced* tongue in cheek sentence like "I feel like banning some ass" into more than it was,... a fair warning.

Did I mention I took the liberty of reporting the OP to be looked at by GPL/Github Savy Mods.

I have updated one of my posts, not to cover my tracks, I left most of it intact, I just added some nuances.

Thank you very much for the tip I will get in touch with JoshKoss it's been a while since we spoke and he's been quiet on twitter the last weeks.*

*I'm not the one that started using other moderator names to impress or scare.

But I don't think he will agree (as would any other Moderator) with the "Taking Potshots" at the moderator vibe.

Thank you, this was actually one of the more/only useful posts into informing me, I do believe you have one question-mark to many ;).

**Update I have reversed the infractions I did NOT give out to start with, you know because i'm a nice guy and actually rarely infract anyone, but the behavior of some users after my request/warning has forced me to take the appropriate action.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Tw bml. And aosp Mtd. If I can xfs.

3 versions for different mods.

I'm trying to get a different fs to work now.
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
Eh alright
[Fascinate Android Development] mkuehl06:
Im gonna say this cause no one else will, Good luck Enyo. Its gonna be a ***** but im sure you will come up with something useful.
[Fascinate Android Development] jt1134:
Normally not one to weigh in on these kinds of things, but there comes a point when things pass the point of silliness and things can possibly even become somewhat dangerous.

Spent some time today reviewing source code, ROMs, what-not. With that information in hand, I kindly suggest one of the following:

* Mods : Please ban Enyo

* Enyo : Please stop posting. Seriously. You're doing yourself and possibly others a disservice.

I made some comments on the "kernel source code" on Enyo's github. The changes he made there were just plain silly. I suggest anyone curious about this kernel move along, nothing to see here. "Espresso Protection" ? Gimme a ****ing break.

These comments are not meant to be "mean" or "trolling" or "my p3nis is bigger than yours" types of comments, rather just honest.

Enyo, you clearly have no idea what you are doing in the realm of development. Seriously. I don't mean that in a mean way, but again, an honest way. You know more about what you are actually doing to your "releases" than anyone else does, so you yourself know that you are not doing anything new, "espresso tweaks" is complete BS all the way, and "your" work is a mashed up version (usually unchanged!) from someone else's work.

Please stop. It's insulting.

If Enyo really is an 11 year old kid in need of attention, then a ban would be fitting for violating XDA's registration rules, in addition to the things stated above and elsewhere on the forum. If he is not an 11 year old kid in need of attention, then a ban would be fitting due to multiple KANGS, hype threads with no download links, and trolling on a massive scale.

In summary, I humbly suggest that Enyo either stop posting any "development" material all together, or be banned, as it is not original, stolen, generally broken and possibly even dangerous to your device.

Again, this is not meant to be mean or trolling, etc, nor discourage Enyo or anyone else from attempting to develop for this or any other device. Just because you have good intentions, doesn't mean anyone needs to be flashing **** that you zipped up.

Good day
[Fascinate Android Development] shag_on_e:
And thus, the discussion ends. The man has spoken. jt rules!

~~~~There is no spoon~~~~
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
JT for president!
[Fascinate Android Development] laureanop:
Jt just summarized and expressed eloquently what we've been trying to tell Enyo and the community for over a month

"the relentless pursuit of the perfect rom"
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Honestly, I agree with the not posting in dev forms. Or at least till I have something useful for the community.