yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Pirateghost:
basically, you need to try them out and see for yourself.

the problem is, there will be another one up soon for you to try out :eek:;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] the2rrell:
Like u said. To each his own. None of the roms here have major issues that I have flashed. All work and run well only issue is if there using da G's kernel which has Sod issues. Other than that flash away bruh.

Only u can prevent forest fires.....so choose well bruh. LOL
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Budge72:
Which ones don't use Da G's kernel? I've read about something called a "stock-ish" kernel.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Pirateghost:
you can change kernels easier than changing roms. even if a rom has his kernel, you can flash whatever kernel you like in place of it....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] DoctorQMM:
Other than doing a complete Nandroid backup, is there anyway to just backup your current kernel prior to flashing a new kernel? SGS KERNEL FLASHER doesn't work on the Skyrocket, and i'd like to backup my stock kernel in case I need to reflash it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] appdroid:
hey Pirateghost didn't you say you got one rom in beta that you are working on????? If yes when is beta coming out?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Pirateghost:
its close. if i have time this weekend you will see something drop. i have a few more tweaks i want to do before i consider it ready. internally, im already up to beta8, lol. i hope to have beta10 release as an RC1 for everyone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AstroDigital:
From what I seen so far I seen no reason to try them though somebody has to or they never get fully debugged.

Some of the ROMs are AT&T only ..... sorry got SGH-I727R

Some of them do have Rogers ROMs but I read of Sleep of Death and losing LTE connection..... sorry too buggy and I NEED LTE or I would of got the Galaxy Nexus.

Finally what I really want is ICS and NOT ICS themed ROMs

None of them are for me but I check everyday when a ICS ROM comes out I will try it.

Finally I recommend you NEVER try Roms if you are not sure that you can restore.

I have backuped my ROMs, Apps and Data, APNs I am 95% certain I can recover from anything.

For that other 5% I have Odin and the orginal Rogers ROM
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cue_32:
Just to agree with everyone else, you've got to try them out. There's no harm in it as long as you've done your nandroid back up, you're pretty safe when it comes to reverting back to your previous ROM and settings.

Reading the features and change logs for each of them helps alot... but it still doesn't give you a full grasp of what it has to offer until you flash and test it.
[HTC Rezound] Therev29:
I do not like how the internal sdcard is the default data storage instead of the external sdcard. I've had to factory reset a couple times now and all app data, downloads, etc.. were erased. That and if something happens to the phone the data would be lost. I remembered it was like this on one of the tabs I had so dug around a bit and found a mod to the vold.fstab file.

This file is in etc/ and also system/etc/

(not sure why it says HTC Passion???)

## Vold 2.0 fstab for HTC Passion
#
## - San Mehat (san@android.com)
##

#######################
## Regular device mount
##
## Format: dev_mount <label> <mount_point> <part> <sysfs_path1...>
## label - Label for the volume
## mount_point - Where the volume will be mounted
## part - Partition # (1 based), or 'auto' for first usable partition.
## <sysfs_path> - List of sysfs paths to source devices
######################

# Mounts the first usable partition of the specified device
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard 37 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0
dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2

If I read the mod correctly you would have to change the sdcard to sdcard2 and vice versa like this:

dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard 37 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2

What I'm not sure on is if it is the same for phones as it is for tablets and is this the correct way to change the sdcard mounts? I am thinking the mod needs to be done on both files and if this is the correct way it may be hit or miss if the mod sticks after a temp root reboot.
[HTC Rezound] marclile:
i'm really curious about this too. i want to figure it out so as soon as i get s-off i can change the mounts. this has already bit me in the a$$ once with this phone and i lost some stuff.
[HTC Rezound] youngpettyboi:
Do u mean like if ur downloading files and how data is stored that way? Just curious, because it is annoying to me as well.

"BEATin" through "REZOUNDingly"
[HTC Rezound] danutzz:
Some applications are correctly downloading files to the external SD card where storage is supposed to go. But other applications (usually older not updated) have the tendency to use the internal SD card. This becomes an issue when you factory reset and the internal SD is wiped. Some people have lost their data unexpectedly.
[HTC Rezound] brando56894:
I guess I'm the only one who likes the way this is set up, I hated it when apps would crap up my sdcard with all their data. As for changing the mount points you would need to be rooted to accomplish that.
[HTC Rezound] Therev29:
I got hit hard when all my downloaded pics from mms where wiped :mad:

I'll try it this weekend and see what happens and if it sticks after reboot. I wonder if it does work, would a factory reset wipe the external card if it is not removed. Well I won't test that theory but I would like to at least see if the mounts are able to be changed with only temp root.
[HTC Rezound] MrSmith317:
You should be able to remount if Android supports the "-o remount" flag in mount. I believe it does. I don't think this will persist beyond a reboot but if it does, then I'd like to do something a little more intricate. Mount 10GB(of external SD) to /sdcard/music and 2GB to /sdcard/DCIM and 4 GB to /sdcard/Download or something like that. Might cause hell connecting to a PC though..
[HTC Rezound] brando56894:
you need to be root to mount devices, also just issuing the command won't persist beyond reboots, you need to place it in the equivalent of fstab.
[HTC Rezound] fuzzynco:
That's what I'd thought too.

/system/etc/vold.fstab would need to repoint /sdcard to the real external

card. And something to the /sdcard fuse re-director for the internal memory.

Right now, I sync /sdcard/Kindle and /sdcard/Nook to their corresponding

/sdcard2 directories so my user data (side loaded books) can be found

since those apps are written to Froyo's SDK level. I've written to both vendors

and they say their developer's are working on updates in support of the

ICS level of SDK. They both thought the simple solution of a configurable

option to use as an 'app root' for where to look for its data made sense.

That would workaround future directory moves in the OS.

A full scan of user space, like Titanium Backup, does for its

data directory works too.

Would the hboot wipe / write rom functions be using the

/dev/<devicename> or their mount points to do its writing?

I'm guessing the built in recovery's fstab would be pointing all

at the internal memory directories and partitions, be cause it would

not be aware of customization in the running OS's /system/etc.

I'd guess whatever custom recovery get put together, would be

aware of int_flash vs ext_flash memory locations.
[HTC Rezound] Bluesnake01:
As far as downloading stuff, you can change that thru your browser. It gives you the option to download stuff to your internal SD or external in the options. Not sure if any of you knew that. For pics, GOSMS always saves my pics on the Ext SD card by default. I actually like it like this better. I hated the Dinc since it would always run out of space and had to use my Ext SD Card for apps.
[HTC Rezound] fuzzynco:
/sdcard is part of the internal flash erased by a hard reset

So since by default, there isn't a way to save user data programatically,

or by virtue of being a physically separate partition, it gets wiped too.

I manually mount the /sdcard and /sdcard2 directories to windows

and sync them with desktop directories for backup, daily.

I wonder if anyone has (or knows of) an android app to sync

between /sdcard and /sdcard2 sub-directories? I mean,

to use /sdcard2/Kindle and /sdcard2/Nook for example as

backups of the e-book databases on /sdcard (which is subject

to erasure by accident).

Does Titanium's sync app do that?

Thanks
[HTC Rezound] lennysh:
Just made this change on my ReZound, and its stuck in a boot loop. So I suggest doing a nandroid backup before trying it! :P

Let me know if anybody does this mod successfully...
[HTC Rezound] con247:
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard 37 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2
dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0

I think that is how it should be, but I haven't tested it.
[HTC Rezound] lennysh:
Yeah, as soon as i get this rom back restored, I'll try that method...
[HTC Rezound] con247:
My change should work because it swaps the hardware addresses for each mount point. The OP's swap had the names and mount points contradicting eachother.
[HTC Rezound] lennysh:
Trying now...

---------- Post added at 02:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:11 PM ----------

Nope, neither card would load the file list, and one was reporting as damaged. Reverting back...
[HTC Rezound] con247:
Wanna try one more? I have one last idea.
[HTC Rezound] JohnShaft69:
im interested... what would i need to do to test your idea?
[HTC Rezound] biswasd:
im curious to a fix as well....as google music seems to save all music to the internal sd card....very annoying due to lack of space.
[HTC Rezound] con247:
dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd 37 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0
dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2

That should do it. If not, then it can't be done this way.
[HTC Rezound] fuzzynco:
Doesn't /sdcard have to be mounted to mount /sdcard/ext_sd?

I mean you have the second level directory being mounted before the

the base on which its mounting?

I still wonder if the internal memory is still a real fat32 partition or like ICS

its a FUSE remounted directory to allow for devices without sd slots.

I'm starting to think maybe its a remount because if it were a separate real partition

erasing /data would not erase it.

If indeed its a 'special case' we need to be careful what we are telling the OS to do.

I was going to exchange the mount points too but still wondering how to determine if its a real fat32 or a media transfer protocol remount via a redirect (fuse).
[HTC Rezound] JohnShaft69:
i just made the edit...weird that the file in system/etc was already edited this way... rebooting/testing as soon as i have backed up with TB...will post results

ok so i am running bamf rom 1.0 with ziggy kernel(1.83).. i only had to modify file that was in the etc folder ONLY...TOTALLY WORKS!

I installed apps...checked sizes...this works GREAT!

Apps seem to load faster off of the class 10 sd i am using!

thanks!
[HTC Rezound] maniac2k:
Hey this worked. Thanks! Next question, is it a problem to not mount the internal ram sdcard all together? Im thinking to just put the following line in only

dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
So you're putting your apps on the external card? Sorry if that's obvious but I didn't understand half of what I read in this thread. :eek:

I've been looking for a good article on how the folder/file structure of Android is laid out since when I look at it seems like a big mess to me but I haven't found one. I'm afraid to root without understanding it more plus I want to figure out where I think I would prefer to have things kept.
[HTC Rezound] lennysh:
I hate to say this, but this still isn't right even though it appears to be working. When I do this edit, the folders that were in SDCARD that should have moved to SDCARD2, are still in SDCARD. The only difference is SDCARD2 is now empty, and all my old EXT_SD folders are also in SDCARD. So its like a mixture of the two. I even commented out the line to make SDCARD2 (RAM) and only mount the EXT_SD to SDCARD, and they both still mounted and appeared the same way as with the MOD EDIT above. We need another method. This one still isn't even stable for me.

---------- Post added at 07:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:13 AM ----------

First of all, please switch them around. Seems doing that gives me the correct folder structure. Thought I had already done this in this order, but maybe not. Will post back if I have the same issues with them unmounting, and/or showing up as corrupted.

dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2
dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd 37 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0
[HTC Rezound] fuzzynco:
Still working this out in my head

dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2
dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard/int_sd 37 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0

I guess, in case some semi-aware function looks for /sdcard/ext_sd I should

ln -s /sdcard /sdcard/ext_sd (/sdcard/ext_sd points to /sdcard?)

With this, I should see

/sdcard on /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2 at /mnt/sdcard

/sdcard2 on /mnt/sdcard/int_sd 37 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0 @ /mnt/sdcard/int_sd

right?

I'm hoping the normal usb disk selection will still attempt to mount

/sdcard and /sdcard2 to win 7 (with reversed contents).

I'm primarily concerned that wipes erase /sdcard and all the un-updated

GB apps still look for /put user data in /sdcard.

--

a related but off topic question, since ICS has a completely different

partitioning scheme, is it a reasonable to think the ICS official will require

a wipe so it can repartition? If they replace the radio or where ever they store

the lock / unlock bits, will the same unlock.bin re-unlock it?

Thanks
[HTC Rezound] maniac2k:
Ok I did a little testing. Moved everything from internal sdcard to external. Nothing is writing to internal so that's good. Booted into cwm and it sees my actual sdcard as normal. Removed sdcard and booted up phone. Can not access internal sdcard. Somehow it is still related to the mount. Doing some more digging.
[HTC Rezound] maniac2k:
Orig Code that appeared to work but internal ram still mounted inside external sdcard

dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd 37 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0

dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2

Tried to mount sdcard2 as /mnt/ext_sd but it didnt work.

dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/ext_sd 37 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0

dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host/mmc2

Can anyone explain the /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0

And how is partition 37 derived in dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/ext_sd 37
[HTC Rezound] carm01:
just poorly designed

I hate to say it, but it seems like this is just a poor design blunder HTC did, and VZW decided not to address.

Talk about quality control; lack of it lolz

edit: hopefully the devs will address when creating roms; assuming i am understanding this correctly?
[HTC Rezound] maniac2k:
Im pretty sure i read a Motorola phone with the same issue.
[HTC Rezound] compchick813:
Yeah, my husband's Acer tablet is the same way. Maybe that's just what manufacturers are doing with newer devices for some reason?

Sent from my HP Touchpad running CM7
[HTC Rezound] fuzzynco:
That's correct

As I understand it, the /sdcard & /sdcard2 (/sdcard/ext_sd) issue is

really implemented in Ice Cream Sandwich's changes.

HTC sort of 'back ported' the idea to the newer HTC devices, hence

the problem with the Rezound.

In ICS /sdcard represents the user writable storage space

which on devices without a real sd card (like Galaxy Nexus)

give them a phoney /sdcard to write to.

The implementation, again, as I understand it, is to have a real

ext3(ext4) file system containing /data (and a subdirectory

named /sdcard), the /sdcard directory is FUSE remounted

as a redirected file system with the filtered attributes behaving like a

FAT32 file system. This is then mounted as /sdcard giving

those other devices a pseudo sd card. The problem is devices

the do have real sd cards, since the name /sdcard is already used

by the 'kludged' file system, we get /sdcard2 (or /sdcard/ext_sd or

both). While ICS does support USB Mass Storage, the Nexus doesn't

have any so it didn't, so USB MTP (Media Transport Protocol over USB)

is used to export the /sdcard file system, in ICS. I'm guessing

the pseudo-sdcard will have to be exported via MTP because

it can co-mount while mass storage has to dedicate the filesystem

to one side or the other and /data has to be available to run the OS.

The real sd card being a fat32 should still export via USB mass storage.

What HTC did for GB, I believe, is still have a real fat32 file system

(partition 32), but 'back port' the concept of /sdcard being internal

and not external space. I'm guessing the ICS OTA, when it comes,

will require a wipe, to facilitate repartitioning the internal flash,

to combine /data and /sdcard and implement the changes to support

the MTP pseudo-partition.

My feeling, is the App Dev's need to update to a more current SDK

to be aware of the changes and support an app setting to tell the app

where to look for its data, rather than assume /sdcard is an sd card.

Amazon's Kindle department told me 3.3.1.1. was supposed to address

this, but failed, so they are working on a fix for the fix. Barnes and Noble

said their Nook app also was being updated to accommodate the OS

changes.
[HTC Rezound] derek4484:
I think the way this phone is set up is normal. I had a Samsung Galaxy S for two years and rarely ever had a true microSD card plugged in. The internal 16GB of memory always mounted as /sdcard. When I plugged in a microSD card it always mounted as /sdcard/ext_sd or was at /sdcard2. The only thing that was different is, the sdcard memory was never wiped with factory resets or loading new ROMS at all. You had to manually go in and format the sdcard.
[HTC Rezound] jmz:
I didn't read through all the posts but if you change that in the vold file you need to edit the kernel to point the other way also.
[HTC Rezound] babribeiro:
Hi guys , I got some problem which i think it is related with what you guys talking here. I did read the thread but i got quite confused.

After some roms installs and factory resets and so on I got a problem also deleted all the folders in the internal and external and i think i deleted something i should not.

I cannot see the 1.7 gg internal storage

I can only see it when i insert a External SD-card.

Meaning

( When no External SDcard inserted):

at Storage :

SD card :"Unavailable" in all fieds

USB Storage: "Anavailable" in all fields

Device memory: 0.97 GB

(With External SDcard inserted)

SD card: "1.7GB"

USB storage"7.39"

The external card is a 8GB.

With root explorer going to the folder " /sdcard" it shows the space of the 7.4GB and after the "/sdcard/external_sd" shows 1.7gb ( used + free)

if i remove the external card , cannot mount the SDcard(internal).

I wanna ask how can i return to the previous state, factory one , with the 1.7 as internal and the 8gb as external.

Thanks in advance and sorry for my noobness

My phone is a Samsung Galaxy W i8150.
[HTC Rezound] RuLEoF2:
Hi,

I found this post in a thread that was along the same subject.

Since you folks clearly know WAY more about this stuff than me, can you tell me if the method in this post is sound or not?

Thanks.
[HTC Rezound] andresinibus:
I kno it's an old thread but I did the swap and it works now I show the internal as 7.39 gigs n the external as 828 MB the thing is I still can't install more apps it's on a tablet and it shows internal storage at 0.99 gig that didn't change at all it also shows the sdcard @ 7.39 gig n the extsd [MENTION=825386]828[/MENTION] MB how can I increase the internal storage to at least 3 gigs or 4 to install more apps thanks for any help also why does it shows as htc passion?
[HTC Sensation] pranker98:
I don't use any data or speak any language but English. I have no need for stock apps such as HTC likes or HTC hub. Some of the widgets are just plain strange to me and I find them unnessessary. How do I delete things like that?
[HTC Sensation] rddocke:
You have a few options freind. the easiest would be titanium backup but the most thorough would be Ron cleaner script to be flashed. I used it once but had to go back it actually got rid of too many things. Have to make my own script then ill flash it.

Try it out you will like it
[HTC Sensation] pranker98:
You mean ROM cleaner?
[HTC Sensation] rddocke:
Yes sorry auto correct sucks sometimes lol
[HTC Sensation] Nilsb7:
If you're rooted & S-OFF you could try AntTek App manager, it let's you uninstall user and system apps, so just look through the list and remove any bloatware. Don't forget to backup first though.
[HTC Sensation] mattbutsko:
Do a market search for bloat freezer. It gives you Titanium Backup Pro's freeze feature for free. It lets you remove it without actually removing it, just incase you need it down the road. It's either bloatware freezer or bloat freezer.
[HTC Sensation] moshe22:
Boat freezer, I use it all the time
[HTC Sensation] mattjorgs:
Do you mean Bloat Freezer?
[HTC Sensation] mattbutsko:
It's called Bloat/CIQ * Freezer - Free in the market. Great app.
[HTC Sensation] mattjorgs:
I do like the idea behind it. I installed it and gave it a go only to find there's nothing I need to freeze! I used ROM cleaner when I installed ARHD.

Swyped from my HTC Sensation using xda premium.
[HTC Sensation] LooieENG:
If you're rooted, download Root Manager and browse to

/system/app

you can delete the .apk files from there (only things you're sure about!)

Make sure you do a nandroid backup first.
[LG Thrill 4G] Trekfan422991:
updated and modded version of the theme found in the optimus 3d themes and apps thread...

try it out...

this is for gb roms onlly
[LG Thrill 4G] bdutton:
This doesn't work with SelfKang4 CM7. Stuck in a boot loop. If it's anything like your other themes, I'm sure its awesome work.
[LG Thrill 4G] Trekfan422991:
Don't ever use flashable themes on cm haha. :)

Sent from my LG Thrill 4G...
[LG Thrill 4G] arsen4oo:
Does this theme require deodexed rom?
[LG Thrill 4G] Trekfan422991:
Shouldn't. But backup in case

Sent from my LG Thrill 4G...
[LG Thrill 4G] JReeher:
Can you tells exactly what you modded like what differences are there?
[LG Thrill 4G] oscarillo:
Does not work on new V20P , I get a lot od FC
[LG Thrill 4G] obtained:
If you happen to get it working let me know. I'm on v20p also and would like to try it out.
[LG Thrill 4G] latinohot:
Heck, it would be nice to see a dev make us a rom, with all the bloatware gone from this V20P.

but one can only hope:confused:
[LG Thrill 4G] obtained:
Oh i know. My phone is soo sad right now.
[LG Thrill 4G] oscarillo:
Really???

C'mon duds, I've been on stock froyo, I went to and flash the O3D GB roms but none of them are as good as this official release for the thrill, my battery life went to the roof, very fast, easy to root,etc. etc. etc. it was worth the wait, I know a dev can make it better but for now I can wait patiently, so dont be such a crying baby just root it and delete al the apps that you dont want
[LG Thrill 4G] wayno140:
get rid of 20p and go 20c its the same baseband and you can flash roms to them you can go back to 20p when devs build roms for it i may never go back to 20p it sounds like its just as bad as all other things by at&t :D just ask the dark lestat
[LG Thrill 4G] Att.Fan1982:
Where can I find info on how to flash from v20p to v20c and flash back when roms are released for v20p?

Edit: never mind, I found it!
[LG Thrill 4G] joax11:
installed on stock v20c and it reboots by itself when it is about to ask for the sim pin