yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonhitch:
Haven't heard any latest on this for a while - seems strange the DHD and Wildfire S have already had updates but the DZ hasn't?

Any news??
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veesix:
I guess we just have to wait, since customer services confirmed that an update is coming.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kreizy:
I think that update will be in January with AND2.3.7 ad SENESE3.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bombadier:
Thats the way to start the year with positive thinking,other as wishfull thinking what makes you think this update will drop in January? I for one will not be holding my breath.

Also you will lose car mode with the update as there have been improvements made and car mode is now part of locations which you now need a paid licence to use,thats what has happened on the Desire HD
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashrack0:
so will the desire Z get any new updates?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zombie468:
yes it will be getting new updates just got off the phone with htc they are saying spring time around march or april thats all they could tell me but it is definately happening
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zombie468:
Sorry i just re-read your post im not sure about the desire but the desire z is definate. Id say based on the fact that htc are updating the z that the desire has a chance but i cant say for sure
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashrack0:
it was my fault, I wasn't clear. Because the topic is already named Desire Z that's way I just wrote Desire instead of Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veesix:
So, did you call them again? And they said march/april? I was hoping for it to be released earlier...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zombie468:
Yeah phoned them again they confirmed it is definately coming they said its planned for spring this year and guessed at march/april
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashrack0:
i just wan't them to update the android version. will probably run it without sense. Since its kinda slow even with sense 2.1, if they include sense 3 it's probably gonna be even slower.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zombie468:
They could unlock the xtra processor power that the desire z has but its unlikely i dont think it would be any slower not that i think its a slow phone anyway i recently returned mine to stock and if anything re writing the original firmware made it faster probablybeacause it cleared all the excess data the phone had acumulated but still and having used a couple of sense 3.0 roms on this phone i can say that they are not slow at all
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashrack0:
tell me more about this so called extra CPU power?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zombie468:
If i remember correctly the desire z cpu is actually 1.5ghz but htc locked it to run at 800mhz for some strange reason if you root your desire z you can happilly over clock the current cpu setting from 800mhz to 1.5ghz without worrying about causing any damage though battery life may suffer a little. I beleive there is a cpu overclock app that will change the settings according to the amount your processor is working but i cant remember what it is called. I do know however that all overclock apps require root acces to run
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazyC:
IIRC the chip is 1Ghz underclocked to 800Mhz.

Sense 3.0 causes issues due to low memory rather than cpu I think. I thought sense 3.5 was supposed to be a bit stripped back which may help.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craiglay:
1Ghz to 800Mhz was my understanding. It runs rather nice at 1Ghz, and stable at 1.2Ghz for daily use without too much battery drain. There are a few kernels to overclock, I use Unity v10 on the rooted stock ROM.

I had heard 3.5 used less RAM. That could be more efficient programming, or the extra use of hardware acceleration. I'm not sure about feature differences. I'm quite interested that HTC have released 3.5a for the Explorer, a 600Mhz, 512Mb budget device. I'm not fussed which version of Sense I get, I'm happy with 2.1 but its time to have a more up to date Android version. I can hope for ICS, but will settle with GB. When dev's ICS becomes more mature, I'll probably switch anyway.

Craig
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRFFTR:
I had gotten so bored from waiting HTC 's unknown update and rooted my Desire Z a month ago, tried some Sense 3.0 and 3.5 ROMs, and can easily say that Sense 3.0 is not worth waiting. Because it lags so much (that is normal because it even lags on Sensation), seems un-optimized and includes lots of bugs. But Sense 3.5... It is seriously amazing! Faster, fully-optimized, includes more features...

But I am %99 sure that HTC won't give a Sense 3.5 update, just because they are giving Desire Z an update later than others doesn't mean they are working for something special, Desire Z has landscape mode, that is why it gets updated later, remember the Gingerbread update. So we should only expect a full Sense 3.0 with Android 2.3.5, or just a new lockscreen with Android 2.3.5 update, expecting anything else will only cause disappointments. And I am writing this post to suggest anyone who doesn't happy with Sense 2.1 to root his or her phone, waiting is just gives pain
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rahe_1st:
sense 3.5 is working so smooth on the htc explorer, no lags and not a ram hunger with a CPU of 600 MHz

but what i don't know is "does sense 3.5 have a landscape mode?" cause I didn't see one in the cooked roms, so maybe this is the cause of the late release ?!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sorgo:
It's not about Sense version, it's just about from what phone the ROM has been "cooked". If it's a port from any phone without keyboard, it does not need to have landscape homescreen. E.g. you can have Sense 3.0 with landscape (port from HTC Flyer).
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] budspanzer:
Hi to everyone,

I have "4" DZ in my home, 2 are rooted and 2 not (wife, daughters and me). The last unpate is Android 2.3.3 Sense 2.1 from 13 June 2011.

No more update at today.

HTC update if have a business retourn. Is this a product that still worth the time and resources to develop?

But, if you want use this phone really, you can think to root it. At your own risk of course.

Have the power to run a great Sense, without too much resources waste.

I tried many versions available on XDA - Developers, and I can assure you that Sense 3.0 and also 3.5, works great with swap, a micro SD Class 10 and the CPU at max 1075 min 384

When I make extensive use of data network, does not go much beyond the day and, the day that I did the installation via wi-fi throughout the duration was 12 hours, but with wifi always on and screen also.

If I use the phone without stress it, go ahead 36, 48 hours.

Now I use it with:

Gmail

Skype (also works on 3g or wifi - but this, drain the battery)

Waze and Maps

various applications for the office, some on cloud, and others to management the phone.

I am able to contact HTC with my account and phone are recognized in HTC Sync on windows.

At the moment I'm using this:

RCMix 4.0 Energized BLUE Edition, and also VirtuousUnity.

I mounted on the phone, considering the swap, to remove call wi-fi - does not work here - and to freeze some apps like facebook or twitter, ever in start up.

These two - but also MIUI or Cyanogen if you do not care Sense - get excellent performance and battery life of use.

Root ... or wait!

;)

This is my experience.

Bud.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kéno40:
The first Desire Z family!!

Is it a sect? Do you pray with it?

;)

Seriously : does the swap really necessary?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] budspanzer:
Hahahaaa... :D funny!!

Hooommmmm...

Actually I bought them used in a stock sale. I saved by taking 4 and none had to say because I got a phone like this! Payd 4 per one...

I just changed the battery cover. You know man, I have 3 ladyes.

swap: I see the difference. Infact phone is more performat, brilliant. I try with and without. The difference is obvious when you open several heavy programs simultaneously, such as Skype and satellite navigation. The phone does not slow as when the swap is not active.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gfqCQvgT:
Answer of HTC

Hy everybody,

have asked HTC what's with an update for DesireZ.

They answered me, that they are trying to bring up the newest staff what ist able to run without lags.

A date of rolout isn't given in their answer so be happy there will be an update.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zombie468:
Any body heard anything else about this ?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veesix:
Still nothing. I sent them an email some days ago, and the answer was "we don't have any information".
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moolash:
ICS

I see the news about the new lineup coming out this week(end) at the MWC, Barcelona.

The One Series. One X, S and V.

HTC One V will be 1Ghz CPU, 512 RAM etc. and Ice Cream Sandwich.

I think HTC should make a nonSense ICS for older devices or at least have the possibility for us to choose to try it. Bootloaders can be unlocked, so why bother.

I know Sense IS the thing, we all - well most of us - have an HTC because Sense UI is sooooo cool.

I don't really care about Sense 3.0 - 3.5.

I was very happy with stock ICS. I have tried the custom ROMs, - THANKS DEVS - and I like the features of ICS.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxx_1910:
not gonna happen
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashrack0:
sad but true
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johrie:
If you see the specs of the One V. 1ghz processor single core and 512mb of RAM. I ques Sense 4.0 wouldn't be that bad and memory hungry.

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zofox:
Yes maybe dev. Will make a rom with sense 4.0 and ics XD

If it works on 512 mb of ram, why won't be possible to use it on dz?

Inviato dal mio HTC Vision usando Tapatalk
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johrie:
I have no doubt that a dev will make a rom with sense 4.0. The question that remains is when it hits the forum :p

Sent from my HTC Vision
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zofox:
Be patient :)

Inviato dal mio HTC Vision usando Tapatalk
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Sense 4.0 phone with 512MB RAM... now this is interesting :D Impatiently waiting for RUU leak and some ROMs :D:D:D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zofox:
Yes, htc one v (the new phone presented at the mwc 2012 in Barcellona) has a single core processor (1 ghz) and 512 mb of ram....pretty similar to our XD came on don't forget our fantastic desire z :')

Inviato dal mio HTC Vision usando Tapatalk
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] veesix:
I found a post on the Turkish HTC fb page, written on tuesday 02/28, of a guy who says he called the customer service. they told him that the update is coming in a few weeks, which is consistent with the march/april timeline ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiementuinstra:
Ik heb net contact gehad met de support van HTC Nederland, zij zijden dat er nog niets bekend is bij de helpdesk.

Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...

U bent nu in verbinding met Susan.

Susan: Beste Tiemen, bedankt voor uw contact met de klantenondersteuning van HTC. Momenteel ben ik even uw vraag aan het nalezen.

Susan: Ik kan u op dit moment helaas niet vertellen of en zo ja, wanneer er een update wordt uitgebracht voor Desire Z.

Susan: De meest recente versie is op dit moment Android 2.3.3 met Sense 2.1

Tiemen Tuinstra: dat is mij bekend, het zou mij gaan om android 2.3.5 met sense 3.0 oid

Susan: Wij hebben tot op heden geen bevestiging ontvangen dat deze versie wordt uitgebracht voor Desire Z.

Tiemen Tuinstra: ok iig bedankt
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonhitch:
All seems to have gone quiet on hear. Is it because of lack or news or lack of interest? I would still love to see this phone updated, but wonder if it will ever happen now.

Anyone have some info?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VaderSKN:
I don't think HTC will release Sense 3.0 for our devices, rather Sense 4, which I would use.

Sent from my chair running Virtuous Unity.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moolash:
no

Official answer and ICS update statement came out from HTC, which doesn't mention Desire Z's.

Just recently, though, we're getting a small update, which nobody knows what it is. Check other threads for that...

like this for example:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1646616
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SonicSoul95:
HTC might want to bring an Android 4 update out, but it is very unlikely.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moolash:
update

I don't think they do.

Virtuous Primadonna ROM proves it could be working. It is not laggy at all.

Only the camera is still a problem.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Whitewater74:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79460745@N03/7176654684/
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wizard25:
Look at This!

New HTC phone, Desire C runs ICS and Sense 4.0 on only 600MHz and 512MB RAM.

So I think that we can confirm that Desire Z can run ICS and Sense 4.0!

I think that there is still a chance to get a Update at least 2.3.5 and Sense 3.x

All strong dual core and 1ghz> phones are already on the ICS update list.

The ICS update list is not completed as they said,so if you take a look at that list, only phones that are not on the list are Desire Z, Desire, Wildfire S, Explorer and other, that means that they are working on something.

Desire Z got an update few days ago, does anybody know what is that update for?

If they don't give us an update, we can conclude that HTC is very busy working on other new phones, and updating old phones doesn't pay-off, they want us to buy new phones with new software, but Thank God we have Custom ROMS :D

Is there any ROM ICS and Sense 4.0 for DZ that has working camera?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moolash:
agree

1. You're pretty much right, buddy.

The One V and the new Desire C all prove our phone can handle ICS and Sense 4.

So does Virtuous Team's Virtuous Primadonna ROM. I have been having it for a few days, reall really only the camera is missing, there might be a few bugs, I haven' found any that annoyed me. It works flawlessly!!!!

2. But also, these phone show that they come out with new, cheap phones, so we're gonna lose the tug-o-war and buy new phones. (all this making our good old Desire Z less worthy and harder to sell :D )

3. There's no Sense ICS ROM with a working camera that I know of.

4. Ohh, the small recent update is just a stability fix, I guess. Not even Sense 3.5

Let's keep hoping!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wizard25:
:D

And if HTC confirm that there will not be an update for DZ, we can use ROM that has ICS and Sense 4.0,and we can clock DZ from 800MHz to about

~1Ghz.

I saw someone that clocked DZ to 2GHz!!!
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wizard25:
Question about updates

My conversation with HTC Customer Support..

Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...

You are currently at position number 1 in the queue.

You have been connected to Rob.

Rob: Thank you for contacting HTC Support. How may I help you today?

Me: Hi, do you have any information about HTC Desire Z updates (ICS, Android 2.3.5 and other updates like sense)?

Rob: At this time the latest version of android is 2.3.3 on this device. This could change in the future, I would recommend following the Facebook and Twitter feeds for further information on this

Me: What do you think is there any chance for DZ to get ICS and Sense 4.0.

Me: ?

Rob: Regarding ICS the phone will not receive this update

Rob: HTC goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. For this reason we will continue reviewing the Ice Cream Sandwich features and functionalities to extend the HTC upgrade plans to more devices as possible.

Me: But it will be very strange. Because new Desire C runs ICS and Sense 4.0 at 512mb and 600mhz

Me: So that means that DZ (512mb 800mhz) can run it without problems?

Rob: They would need to re-design a lot of the operating system to work with a qwerty keyboard. It is possible they may add this feature in the future but I cannot confirm this

Me: If HTC doesn't give us an update. Will they confirim that for DZ, Because I was sending emails and they told me that they don't know anything?

Rob: Any information regarding updates will be posted on the social networking sites

Me: OK, Thanks :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Should have mentioned our sense 4 roms and how well they run, including the keyboard :O
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moolash:
LOL

Yep, I should've mentioned them, too, not just Primadonna. :D

By the way, @xT4Z1N4TRx: you guys develop. Do these new phones like the One V and will the Desire C help getting those drivers? Or are they completely different?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xT4Z1N4TRx:
Well our drivers are pretty much fine now, its just camera, and they don't have the same camera as us so no :(
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wizard25:
:(

Sorry guys just found out that our DZ will not get an ICS Update with new Sense, because of lack of ROM Memory.

So I don't believe that we will get 2.3.5 Android and Sense 3.x too, they are too busy working on ICS for other phones.

It looks like that XDA has better devs than HTC.

---------- Post added 23rd May 2012 at 12:10 AM ---------- Previous post was 22nd May 2012 at 11:51 PM ----------

I found this F.A.Q.

What devices will not get Android 4.0?

We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB ROM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.0. These devices include the HTC ChaCha, HTC Salsa, HTC Wildfire S, HTC Explorer, and others.

Devices with 512MB ROM or less will not be updated.

HTC One V has 512MB ROM and it has ICS and Sense 4.0

I don't get it?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VaderSKN:
They maked a new phone with Android 4.0 for money, why would people buy "old" phones wat has to update first? And it's better to have rooted Sense 4.0A, than unrooted. We only have to fight about drivers or wait until Desire series get ICS.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashrack0:
Desire HD and Desire S will get ICS.

Will that help with the camera issue?
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VaderSKN:
I think so, that's the devs are looking to, these drivers.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheDuri:
Htc one V has 4gb ROM i think. According to this we should get update, because we have 1.5GB rom.

This post from HTC blog says about phones with less then 512 rom not being updated. So its wildfire, wildfire s, desire. There is no info about ram. Maybe somebody from HTC can confirm that... But if they statet that only devices with 512mb rom or less will not get update, there is no reason we should not get it.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VaderSKN:
It's RAM, not ROM. ROM it's operating system, like Android.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheDuri:
No it's not. On HTC Blog it is stated ROM. There was similar problem with HTC Desire and 2.3 update. There was too little space for installing update. ROM not only means software maked on xda, it also means Read Only Memory, where software is stored. HTC stated clearly, its ROM problem not RAM
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VaderSKN:
k, I believe u. **** IN THAT, we have to wait until ICS for Desire series.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wizard25:
Possible?

Hey guys ROM with Jelly Bean for Desire Z/G2 possible (with interface like Google Nexus)?

I saw that it has Google Assistant,its awesome :D
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kbeezie:
Not sure why the Necro bump, but where do you see a working JB rom for G2? Last I checked there's several working ICS roms, but the only JB roms simply boot up, and nothing more (work in progress you could say).

Unless you mistook Sense 3.0 as meaning the 3.0 Kernel.
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wizard25:
xD

No xD

I asked will that be possible in future, JB ROM for G2
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kbeezie:
Well *sort of*. The G2/Vision is a 4GB rom that's been perma-partitioned to have a ~ 1.2-1.5GB "user space" in the rom, rather something like 1GB to /system , 1GB to OTA, some to some other partitions, but generally ~ 2 to the user space.

So if they're talking bout more than 512MB being dedicated to system space, then should be ok. Just wish that T-Mobile/HTC's "creative partitioning" could be re-done to regain say the OTA space.

though if I view my partition table via 4EXT it has the following capacities for internal storage:

system 409 MB

data 1309 MB

cache 201MB

So not sure if that ~409MB counts against use for the 512MB limit, especially as the partition sizes are irreversible once they leave the factory.

EDIT: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog

Vision/Desire-Z is no where on that list, so guess safe to say we won't be getting ICS officially.
[Verizon Droid Charge] mindandminds:
i have a charge in europe and i want to use it as a console,player,etc...but its allways searching an 4g sim or something like that...how can i use it witout that?thanks in advance and apologise if i did smting wrong,im first time here
[Verizon Droid Charge] blueis300:
Maybe go into the drop down menu at the top of the screen and disable data so 3g/4g isnt present or go into settings mobile networks and un select use packet data.
[Verizon Droid Charge] mindandminds:
its not helping...it ask me to select the language,than say SORRY,THIS SIM CARD IS NOT SUPPORTED OR READABLE.PLEASE CONTACT YOUR WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER.....i tried whith and without a sim inside...i plug the usb data cable and i cant even acces the internal memory...please help,it got to be a solution
[Verizon Droid Charge] blueis300:
So your phone was never setup before? I just took my sim card out and started and I could change and it worked.

---------- Post added at 04:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:14 AM ----------

Maybe start the setup process, select english, next , skip back up assistant,either enter a gmail account or fake and see if you can get as far as you can just to get into the settings.

Ok what screen are you seeing can you do anything? Some company's can unlock the phone so u enter ur country code I guess then maybe bypass setup.Maybe have a friend that has a setup sim card for your country put in the phone just to pass the setup screen then there are several options to continue.

If you can get to a keypad screen,

Try this:

1. Select emergency call and dial ##778.

2. Select edit and enter service password 000000.

3. Select NAM Settings.

4. Change Mobile Directory number to 0000000000 (Ten digits).

5. Change MIN1 to 0000000 (Seven digits).

6. Change Mobile Country Code to 000 (Three digits).

7. As you back out "Commit the Change".
[Verizon Droid Charge] mindandminds:
my phone is new,and i cant skip the asistant,because its not setup...i cant enter the menu at all,after i select english its teling me that message about the sim