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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Grub4dos:
I own both a Samsung Galaxy S2 4g & IPhone

You can "jailbreak" an iPhone and play around with a fair ammount of settings ect... however its NOTHING like Android in my very humble opinion.

That being said the developer's side is all Linux anyways so if your a Linux kinda tinkerer then feel smug about your iPhone because 75% of ppl on here just YouTube and wouldn't have any idea how to USB boot into kbuntu and chef up a rom if I paied them a zillion bucks.

However you will pay for everything through the nose when it comes to cydia and all the cool **** that is there..... the andriod has xda and a select few resources while iPhone has a "one stop shop" which is Cydia. If you know about the iPhone and the development ppl for the phone you know why everyone who owns one is smug as hell.

(Just a thought for all iPhone haters)

I had my iPhone HD partitioned out and could run a boot loader of my choice then run pinguy or any buntu os along with any type of USB bootable program like backtrack, riplinux, I even have Windows7, Vista, XP, and even 98 on my iPhone. So while I'm out I don't need to sneakernet ten USB flash drives or even a port HD its all on my phone. I have not tried it on my Samsung but last I recalled even in mass storage the PC world still has to dl the device drivers in order to recognized the device as a USB bootable when POST is done for the iPhone it is recognized by 99% of desktop PC's.

DISCLAIMER if the information is slightly inaccurate then I say to you "listen too what I mean not what I say".

If it is Grossly inaccurate then I was mistaken and will not post under the influence anymore.

Friends don't let friends sign a unlimited plan with Sprint.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Beejis:
That's what she said

It burns when I tapatalk...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jess813:
@OP

You'll be back ... I was and did the same thing. You'll miss the numerous advantages that Android brings. Quote me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mikel719:
I was seriously considering the 32gb iphone 4s, I was in the store for about an hour. 20 minutes to play with the et4g, 20 to play with the iphone 4s wich is the same as the unlocked iphone 3gs I had on tmobile a while back IMHO. Then 20 minutes to conplete my transaction of buying the better phone. Its all in the signature.

To the OP, I dont knock you. I almost did the same thing. I played with the crapphone before I commited though. You'll be back for sure, I guarantee it. Unless your the expresso barista type, then I stand corrected.

Sent from my epic touch B=====D {()} (o)(o)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
Hope it works it for you. I dint understand why people have allegiances to companies. I just use the device that works for me, which happens to be a phone with a big screen and customizatios.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
XDA needs a sub-forum "I moved from XY phone/carrier to XY phone/carrier."
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oubravs2b:
Did the same. Had it for a week and a half and came running back. I had 2 iPhones before and thought I'd give it another chance. Never again...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xisaacbx:
Not a bashing just the hard truth. Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blestsol:
Normally I say idc what people post but wth OP?

Grats on your iPhone. Why make a thread about it?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coldblooded79:
You can always sell your 4s for more money on Craigslist. Then buy an Epic Touch. You'd have money leftover. I should have done that myself, but I burned my upgrade before it came out.

sent from my Epic 4g Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
Would have made more sense if you just posted something up after actually using your iPhone for a little bit and gave us a comparison between the 2. That would be more productive to the community.

Just starting a thread to say you are getting another phone, I don't understand what you were expecting to accomplish nor how this adds any value here.

Now if Viper or Calk said they were leaving that would be a whole other story, you not so much.....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] slick4mitch:
Ouch! But true.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] quick99si:
If I may, I would like to offset OP's opinion and say that I "upgraded" from the 4s to the E4GT. There are many pros and cons to each for me as a semi-anal poweruser (please fellas, easy on the jokes) but the totality of awesomeness in the iPhone was slightly less than the Epic for my own use and preference.

They both lack physical keyboards (big downside for me), the iPhone screen is too small while the Epic's is too big. The screen quality, notwithstanding differing resolutions, is phenomenal on both devices and two of the best available on the market, yet I think it comes down to user preference in the end. I'll call that a push so far.

iPhone resolution, SIRI, battery life, text prediction, and generally "trouble-free everything just... works" experience are huge pluses. GPS and WiFi, from my anecdotal tests, are much more stable on the 4s than my last dozen phones. This is in addition to the commonly acknowledged finer points like excellent sound quality, superb music integration, quick quality camera, ease of use, and extensive catalog of third party apps. The UI is arguably more intuitive and definitely snappier, less likely to perceptively lag, and so on.. which I feel are underrated aspects of a mobile OS seemingly masked by powerful hardware. We're well past settling for the UI lag from the Windows Mobile days.

But the same pleasant a reliable experience places constraints on what a power user is capable of doing. Things like file manipulation, customization, tweaking/hacking components of the OS and similar tasks aren't highlighted in iOS they way they are in Android and WM.

The iPhone is great and I would readily recommend it to anyone knowing that they will be happy with it. However, if you're a member here on xda, odds are that you like fiddling with your gadgets and modifying them to suit your day to day use, in which case I would say that the Epic Touch is more in line with your needs.

The Epic shines in offering an exceptional hardware spec sheet, more physical buttons (I much prefer the 4 vs Apple's 1 for quick navigation), a 4G radio, and of course a replaceable battery and external memory. Root access, and everything that comes with it, like filesystem control, full image backups, custom kernels/roms, control over CPU and GPU parameters, customizing/themes, free tethering, make the Epic favorable overall for the user that sees the value in those functions. But realistically speaking, what percentage of the population has custom roms on their devices vs the call-text-browse-app population?

It's important to keep in mind that some of what I consider downsides of the iPhone will be resolved with the next iteration. iPhone 5 should be announced in March, which is expected to have a larger screen, higher resolution still, and a 4G or LTE radio. Further, ICS is coming to the Epic... when paired with the xda development community, it too will address some of the cons mentioned above, to the point where all this discussion may become moot.

I hope that the article doesn't come off as being biased.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ripley6:
Thank you! Another useless thread that adds no value.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
Its been just over a month since swapping out one of my E4GT's for a iPhone 4S and Im pretty satisfied in the choice. If you want an honest comparison then here ya go (personal experience and opinion only).

Signal strength: iPhone hands down, not even remotely close

Screen Quality: ET4G

Battery Life: iPhone (8+ hours of screen on usage and almost 40 hours standby)

Market: Androids has free trials and a return policy, apples has a larger selection

Paid Apps: iPhone. Way more polished, and much larger selection

Free Apps: ET4G. Far easier to find a suitable app for free

Customization: ET4G No need to explain

Stability of OS: iPhone No crashes, etc. Android is buggy as all hell

Music Playback: iPhone Only because itunes integration is seamless

Video Playback: ET4G iOS doesnt handle MKV and large files worth a damn

Camera: iPhones is much faster and takes quality pictures ET4G's has far more options and takes slightly better pictures

GPS: iPhone. Locks instant even in a building.

Navigation: ET4G Nothing comes close to Google Navigation.

Accessories: iPhone by a landslide. Part of the reason I bought one. There are more attachments etc for iPhones than any other phone on the market.

iPhone/iOS just works. I cant say that enough. Its reliable as hell and I dont have to worry about checking for LOS, data lockups or GPS lockups ever. You do however HAVE to like apples simple minded UI to enjoy the iPhone.

Android has the tinkering factor and personalization however it "feels" like the OS has become very buggy and somewhat unreliable. Im hoping ICS fixes that but things like GPS and data lockups have been a problem since 1.5. With android I felt like I had to check my phone constantly for problems.

Overall for me I need a phone that just works. Once a jailbreak for the 4s comes out I may do it simply for the theme management.

Lets handle 2 things before the flaming begins. A) Im still on XDA cuz like Ive stated a million times I still have an ET4G on my account so I follow development here daily. B) As I stated thee above comparisons are my own experiences and opinions. I couldnt care less if youve never had LOS or data or GPS issues. I do and Ive documented since the ET4G came out. So yes Ive tried new kernels, roms, unrooting, never rooted etc. The ET4G didnt work for me so leave it alone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SocialReject:
Understandable.

Sent from the future.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Grub4dos:
Agreed^
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 12MaNy:
If Android didn't come with so much freedom, I would probably own an idevice.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] limeaid:
Great post and really appreciate the objective point of view. Wish more ppl could make posts like this
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] limeaid:
Thanks. This is really helpful
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kc_exactly:
Bad decision

Well, you might say XDA is going to be Android bias. But, Consumer Reports just came out last week and said the Galaxy S2 is a better phone hands down. Bigger screen, 4g, better screen, more customization, better processor, better camera, basically everything is better. But, some people are lemmings. Well, at least we all know you are creative.

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Hey, that little break down above is wrong. The Epic has something like 10 days of standby battery and beats the Iphone. Iphones do crash, freeze, lock up; its just its users think its a feature.

Itunes is not the only music application. One day you will realize that and find out what your missing.

I don't hate Apple. I just think it is overpriced. It is basically last years tech in a fancier package.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blestsol:
I was just thinking the same about iTunes. There's a lot of integrated Android music apps and I know ios freezes. Google it.

A lot of things I could refute. Only the ones you're saying are fact though. Like what I've commented on already .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
Standby as in phone actually on and running with push data gps on, bluetooth etc. Epic doesnt get 10 days like that sorry. Phone off then yeah 10 days easy.

Like i said, in my experience over the past month mines never froze, crashed, rebooted or locked up in any way. In fact the only time ive rebooted it is to apply the update.

As for itunes, its where I buy all my music. Simple as that. Tried amazon and other services but didnt have the selection so imo Im not missing anything.

Now as for the price, i dont disagree. Your paying for the name not the actual specs and true value of the phone. The new dual core processors are nice but not at the price their at now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Geez why don't you and your iPhone get out of the sgs2 forum?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stoney60:
Smart Wife lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
Well since you obviously have either a short attention span or lack the ability to read I'll make it simple for ya. Because like I said, I also own an ET4G. Sooooo since this is the ET4G section and this is also an iPhone thread (both of which I use in case you missed that) and someone asked for someone to actually compare the two...

Dont think I need any further explanation do I?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
So we really need another iPhone vs ______ thread on here? Im pretty sure there are a few pages down, plus the 1000's of YouTube videos and other reviews comparing the two.

There are 13 iphone threads already in ET4g general. Im sure there were more but have been deleted.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
I love XDA. Its comical to watch what transpires in these threads. You guys say iPhone users are snobs, elitists, fanboys etc. but it would appear Android users have the same outstanding qualities. Granted the thread doesnt really belong nor is it needed but someone asks for an opinion and ones given. Not only was it honest and praised both devices but it was also critical of both devices. If you cant admit android is flawed just as ios is then your living in a cave. Theres a reason Android devices get labeled "the iPhone killer", or "an app like siri" or "Android sales closing in on iPhones" or better yet every thing about the 2 systems get comparred to one another.

Everything I compare is backed up. Both devices work well for different types of people. Some of you guys need to accept that and be happy your satisfied with what you have.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
I didnt create it, i simply obliged a user by comparing the 2.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sling:
lol great thread good way to piss ET4G users off.

I'm sure this sort of thread wouldn't go over well in a iphone forum with ET4G user posting how better and bigger screen is , ET4G getting better review write ups , more customization etc.

What do you think wingz?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
Oh I was hoping someone would ask that question. Ill let that EXACT thread answer for me.

http://www.iphoneforums.net/forum/iphone-general-discussion-12/iphone-4s-galaxy-s2-27266/

User asked to compare the 2 cuz he's looking at what to buy. Funny enough theres some helpful info in it and no flaming. Kinda proves my point.

As for writeups etc. I can find reviews choosing one over the other for both devices. Reviews mean crap. Sales are whats important and well...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mobiledia/2011/12/07/iphone-4s-tops-sales-charts-samsung-surges-too/

GS2 winning review: http://androidadvices.com/galaxy-s2-iphone-4s-features-specs-

iPhone winning review: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2118436/iphone-4s-vs-galaxy-ii-head-head-review
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sling:
Thread topics are different bringing in different readers & comments.

If thread was started there with OP posting he jumped ship iphone loyal would come to defend their device choice Its been seen countless times in both platform playgrounds
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] davesbest:
I'm in the same boat. My wife wants the iPhone 4s. I let her play with my E4GT but she has no interest in custom ROMs, kernels, etc. For her, keeping it less complicated is best.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
Highly possible. I guess the interesting part is even when I commend ET4G on some of its strengths and fault apple on its weaknesses do people still get so pissy.

Like I said this thread only had bad intentions and doesnt belong but its here and besides the users with their eyes closed to the outside world theres some good info for people debating the switch.

Then the famous "why are you here if you use another device?" That cracks me up the most. Its called expressing your opinion so people can get a user experience as opposed to what a sales clerk tells you. Let alone the fact that some people actual own/use more than one device.

The ET4G is a hell of a phone and if I were on GSM I would probably go back to it as a daily driver but Sprints service ruins this phone and Samsungs slow support response makes it worse. Most of the issues are attributed to service and support. Hell fix those and Id consider it the best phone to date.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HYDE1000:
Why are we supposed to care what you do? I hope to god everyone doesn't think this is Twitter and feel the need to create a thread on what they are doing with their phones.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
That's what it seems like lately.

We don't need a new thread every time someone is switching to or from a phone/carrier.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
So do you eat food you dont like then complain about it or do you move on to something you like?

You knew by the title you wouldnt like this thread yet you not only read it but you took your time to reply to it. Doesnt seem to make sense does it?

Whether anyone likes the OP posting this thread or not is irrelevant. You made the choice to read it. He didnt force you to. Silence is a hell of alot more powerful than running of the mouth.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
That same concept could be applied to you replying to his post.

If you didn't like it, you could have just ignored it.

It could also be applicable to when someone posts in the development section with non-development related material.

But it doesn't work like that.

XDA has 400,000 + "active members" and 4.1 million members.

If every time someone changed carriers or their phone they posted a thread, it would be the only thing we discuss.

To the OP, good luck with your new purchase, here's an XDA website dedicated to "modifications" of that purchase:

http://forum.iphone-developers.com/

Enjoy.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] limeaid:
Wingzfan, just wanted to reiterate that I appreciated your point of view. Not sure what the ppl who are flaming you have stuck up their ass, but i think those of us on xda who have the basic logical reasoning ability see the value in your comparison.

To everyone flaming wingzfan -- why do you take it so personally when someone says anything positive about the iPhone or anything mildly negative about the ET4G? You'd think someone had just insulted your wife or girlfriend.

Oh wait... Maybe I'm onto something here...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
It's we don't come to the sgs2 forum to read about the iPhone, just like going to the evo3d forum and how its also cluttered with photon and iPhone posts, and how the Evo4g was littered with iphone and epic 4g threads. If I wanted to read about how glorious the iPhone is I'd click the link matty provided. This vs that threads always end with being locked and deleted anyway , this ones already turning into a flame fest and will most likely end just like all the other ones.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] james33440:
Very true. It's just funny how a simple statement causes certain reactions. Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ravizzle:
4g... Nuff said

Sent from my Galaxy S2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] james33440:
Thanks. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
Disruptive? Do you know what that word even means? Someone asked for a comparison and I gave it, then the locals wanna say Im full of crap so I backup my statements, then they wanna still talk nonsense so I backup my facts yet again and your definition is disruptive?

Disruptive is me saying "the stupidity and blind arrogance in this forum is the definition of simple" and there are alot of simple people in this room.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Someone asked for a comparison, should have sent them a DM with the results. Plus the title of the thread just screams "Im trolling y'all with my new iPhone."
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cnstarz:
these 2 sharp posts are useful and bring credit upon the posters and XDA.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kyhassen:
thats a good upgrade!!... i went from the palm pre to htc hero and hell that alone as a big upgrade, but then i went with the evo, then evo shift, and now the epic 4g touch and its the best damn phone i have ever used out of like 20+ different phones over the past few years.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I saw your post on that forum you posted a link to wingz. You sound like you can't stand this phone. You did say "don't go near the Sprint version of the SGS2." I usually don't engage in this kind of stuff but when you say "I am here because I have the phone too" there is some discrepancy from what you posted in that thread. I think its time to put this thread to sleep. All of the subjective comparisons have already been made
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] limeaid:
John, in all fairness, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what wingzfan posted in the iPhone forums. What exactly did he say that was contradictory? He basically stated the truth about the ET4G. It DOES have issues and LOS has been a huge problem for many many ppl

I agree that the OP's title may be construed as slightly inflammatory but several of the comparison posts have been extremely helpful. It sounds like a bunch of you want his thread to be shut down simply because uoicant stand hearing anything negative about your phone and anything positive about he iPhone.

Too bad. I would have expected Android users to exhibit less fanboyism than apple fanatics but after frequenting xda for the last few months, I have found the exact opposite
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I agree several of the comparisons have been great actually but to say the Sprint version is riddled with problems is a bit much
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sonykid15:
Your wife clearly won in this situation!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LoveisPeace2012:
Funny, i did the exact opposite
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] brushrop03:
But...but why?

And again...not really an upgrade. I'm pretty sure the SGSII has already been deemed the best phone out at the moment.

Iphone is nice. I know i'd get bored with it though. Absolutely no customization.

Now when the iPhone 5 comes out, then Apple will have something to talk about. Hopefully something with a better screen. Probably still wouldnt switch though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
Have fun with Siri. Siri is fun for about a half a hour. When you downgrade to a smaller screen make sure you invest in a magnifying glass.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duke4eva:
Not gonna lie, if the iPhone had a 4.5' screen, I'd probably switch. Just until Android OS became a bit more stable.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HYDE1000:
I would definitely at least give it a shot if the screen wasn't so small. I don't have a problem with the iPhone itself, but that screen is not much bigger than a BlackBerry Bold with full keyboard.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hypersonicx:
The one thing apple does have going for them is the QUALITY of there apps.

Android barely has any decent high quality games.

With the release of GTA and Sonic CD coming to Android maybe thats a change in the Android Market headed in the right direction.

Android has powerful high quality strong phones but lacking the Games / Software to take advantage.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] psych2l:
Battleheart

Blood and Glory

Death Worm

Drisk

Elder Sign

Hot Pursuit

Inertia HD

Jelly Defense

Neon Zone

Shadow Gun

Shine Runner

Sleepy Jack

Spectral Souls

Spirit

Sprinkle

World of Goo

Riptide

Rocketron

These are just a fraction of great games for android and I haven't even touched the emulators, your argument is invalid.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Fataldesain:
I could never switch screen to small and no 4g. Sprint data is just too slow
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hypersonicx:
I mean in terms of games from 1st party companies.

The only reall good titles I see are Chu Chu Rocket wich just came out. Every game just seem like repetitive puzzle or simple games that only take up about 5MB of space LOL.

Also forgot Madden. But you see where im coming from. Real legit games with grafx that push the phones.

Every thing is simple puzzle like games which get boring in like 20min.

Apple / iPhone had Sonic The Hedgehog 4... Why couldnt this had came to Android......