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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xGary:
Google translated link: http://translate.google.com/transla...topicdetail.php?f=605&t=2482762&last=32565521

If you read the comments there are A LOT of people commenting about the poor Wifi. Looks like the delay is true.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beavertank:
The existence of an issue with wifi, even among a large number of users, does not confirm the delay. It confirms that what people receiving delay notices from Canadian retailers have been told is probably true.

That does not mean every prime exhibits the issue, or that there is a delay everywhere.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
Sold 300 white mice when so many people have gone to help test out shows is not the Asus to the complaints of fruit daily.

My thoughts exactly.

That being said, the undercurrent in that thread seems pretty obvious.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beavertank:
You had me at mice ;).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] avinash60:
The iffy GPS signal is disconcerting, since basically we have a tablet on our hands which has some serious shielding and detuning going on with all the antennas due to the metal cover. I wonder how this slipped through the engineers at Asus..
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
That thread is b.s. For one, the translation is horrible. Second it's not several members. It's mostly the first poster. His post takes up most of the page as it shows different dates he posted. There was actually only like 2 people reported issues with wifi. The Bluetooth guy had problems connecting to some external gps device or something. That doesn't mean there is a Bluetooth problem. Could've meant he didn't set it up properly.

Nice try...lmao. Stop believing and feeding the hype/rumors...has nothing to do wth u.s. Shipments. For all we know, u.s. Shipments are perfectly fine. Stop cherry pickn info to feed the hysteria..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xGary:
Read the comments... Not just the first page. There are pages and pages of comments from different users talking about the Wifi. Yes the translation is bad but you can still see words about Wifi Problem, Signal Weak, and such.

But update from TheVerge about Asus denying rumours http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/10/2627270/asus-denies-rumors-of-transformer-prime-delay

Could be interesting how this turns out.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] pandaball:
I read the whole thread in Chinese, most if not all of them said the signal was weaker as compared to, say, a laptop, but very few, if any actually said wifi was completely malfuctioning. Some said their wifi worked from 30m away. Some people said it was because of interference from other 2.4GHz devices that caused the signal to be weaker, removing those devices fixed the issue for them. Nice try, but no cigar.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BongoBong:
not to mention that the first thing that happens with a new device like this is that all the happy costumers are happily playing with their new toy and only the ones with some problems end up being the ones on forums making it seem like its a huge proportion who have some problem.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beavertank:
Aha! The Chinese connection! Thank you, much better than trying to slog through a machine translation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Thanks for the real translation.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] blaziner18:
you know i see most of your posted and you come off extremely biased, your always against anything bad being said about it. Or even mad at people who express worry about the wifi problems. Even if your right, it seems like your not even assuming its possible to be wrong.

just saying, when ever i see any of your posts im kinda happy because i can always count on you to back up the prime, but it all seems to biased to be 100% credible.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
This along with the AndroidCentral reviewer who just yesterday tested his review unit's Wifi after these reports came out, and found:

Signal strength apps aside (real world use trumps numbers), the Prime does have a bit weaker signal when a good distance from my router (Netgear wireless N dual-band model) when compared to most other phones, Netbooks, or the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1

http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-transformer-prime-possibly-delayed-until-2012-wifi-issues
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
Well how could it be stronger than the other devices? It has a freaking full metal backing...

Everyone who thinks that ASUS just invented metal penetrating Wifi is just a fool.

You guys have to be aware that we WILL have worse wifi/bluetooth/GPS reception with the Prime.

There is no doubt about that.

BUT

the real question is if we are going to suffer from this.

Even my Laptop can't get more than 30mbps if it stands directly next to the router. And I don't freaking care. I don't need such speeds on my laptop.

And I won't need them on my Prime.

I guess 90% here don't even know what 30mbps means...

They just see "ISSUE/DEFECT/MALFUNCTION" and run away screaming... Bloody XDA users...:rolleyes:

(@Quoted: Not sure what your point was, I just quoted you because it had a reference to my point :D )
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
The AnandTech reviewer compared the Prime to the TF101, and found a significantly slower average speed, and specifically said "One thing is for sure, the Prime is going to be far more finicky than its predecessor when it comes to reaching peak speeds over WiFi."

The AndroidCentral reviewer compared the Prime to a Samsung Galaxy and other devices in the same class.

No one is running away screaming. No need for the hyperbole. It seems that some take any reports of a problem with the Prime as a personal attack that must be defended. The fact is, this is an electronic device, and this is an enthusiast forum, where the specifics of the device will be measure and discussed. Hopefully most can do this objectively.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
My guess is those guys reporting issues and delay freak outs are actually from apple. They're scared ****less.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bimboy:
Agree, let's all just assume everything doesn't work as designed, based off a bunch of whiners with no personal experience, and use partial (and bad) translations as our basis.

This thread describes that all of our Primes are going to be delayed and insinuates that we'll all have wifi malfunction.

In reality, it's a few people saying they had minor range issues, then the majority of the folk had no problems at all.

Same goes for the stupid GPU wars, speaker placement wars, DSP wars (I'm sure I missed a few, but I try to tune them out). I find it amazing, yet frustrating that people can argue vehemently over something they have zero personal experience with.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
What about the reviewers and in-store reports of Wifi issues? Are they "whiners"? Or are they users reporting their experiences. Just because you only want to hear one side of the story, does not mean that anyone who reports an issue is a whiner.

I didn't make that assumption. I saw people reporting their experience.

Your bias is really showing here. Have you taken a survey of all the current users, and can state that the majority of the folk had no problems at all? What about the Anadtech reviewer?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beavertank:
One, or two, or even twenty anecdotal pieces of case evidence do not make a majority or even a trend.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bimboy:
I've read probably 50 reviews. I've noted anandtech as an anomaly caused by his multi access point on a single network issues causing less than optimal throughput (not malfunction, as this bull**** thread states). One out of fifty is not a majority.

I don't have multiple access points on my network, so even it it were true, I don't give a crap. The other reviews do not mention it, and they still have their units and are still not mentioning it. What's that tell you? Are they fanboys and have their heads up their collective asses?

This is not a little story. If it were true, and these blogs had the means to corroborate, they most definitely would. The fact is that they DO have the means to corroborate, and they are not reporting wifi issues. What negative spin would you put on that? Freaking whiners.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
This made me laugh. I thought about the same thing last night. I was thinkn I seem to always be defending the Prime. It's not really that. It's just trying to inform those so easily gullible from false rumor reports. It's one thing if it's facts, then it can't be disputed. But most of these bashing threads have been based off rumor of a few. Verge just got word from Asus there is no delay. Slash gear heard the same thing from Asus and also stated they had no wifi issues what so ever. Regardless of wifi issue original Anandtech had, they still said this is the best Android tablet by far and probably the best period. Same with Cnet. PCmagazine review did extensive testing and the most benchmarks out of everyone and Prime won hands down. Point is regardless of all these so called issues, Prime is still held as the Android tablet that will be out. Nothing will even come close to ot until about May-June or so. All reviewers held the Prime as a great piece of technology. Camt deny it. So people who so worried about so called issues, just don't get the prime, period. Once we get it, and enjoying it, they will be the ones nagging us asking the same senseless questions. We have exactly 1 week and 1 day till release, for gsmestop preorders. The Haterz cant stop the ones, who mind already set, on getting this device.

I wouldn't be surprised if ectoplasmic and jeiwong are the same person. Or they must be brothers..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
This really sums it up. Who is so gullible that you have to protect them? Are you saying people can not think for themselves, so you have to help them? When a reviewer posts details of his experience, it's not a rumor, he is telling what happened. This is a technical forum, not a fanboy forum, so people who think objectively do not need your protection from the facts.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BiGMERF:
I just want ASUS to say something.. Is that such a bad thing?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Here's what Slashgear had to say:

Also in the Slashgear story, here's what ASUS has to say:

So, maybe that can put this whole thing to bed?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bimboy:
Two people with throughput issues out of fifty plus reviews, and the sky is falling to you.

You want to talk technical? Well then let's do that... this is not about no connectivity at all, you realize, right? The ONE updated report is claiming ~20Mbps compared to other devices getting ~30Mbps. That's still faster than most of our internet connections, and is far beyond streaming HD requirements, and is only an extremely minor inconvenience for transferring gigantic files.

That same report is saying they admitted that they had a bunch of network equipment that caused the interference, as well as 4 access points on the same network. When they turned off the other access points, the TP went to 30Mbps. Since 99% of us have one wireless access point on our network. You probably do too. So, even if this was an issue (and I don't think it is, given the vast majority of data points), it wouldn't be an issue for 99% of us. The other 1% would have an extremely minor issue when transferring huge files.

Now the question to you is.. do you own an iPad, by any chance? or go by another moniker here? Newbies causing problems are always suspect.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
QFT.

My 4 months old HP laptop doesn't even get higher then 20 MB/s with WiFi. Who cares, you only have 32/64 GB of memory anyway.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rushless:
Sounds like it MIGHT have a weak radio like the Acer A500 did. Could be a case of power management and Acer could apply a firmware update to increase the mW output. The Transformer 1 does not have weak wifi.

None the less, IF it really does have weak wifi, I will pass on it until an update. My Thrive and Flyer are doing fine and do not have weak wifi.

My guess is IF true, ASUS will fix it- unlike Acer who did not and put the same weak radio in the 7" and the Windows tablets (some reviews mention the weak wifi in them).

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I will GLADLY take stable and strong reception for wifi over super high throughput, if not as stable and as good reception.

IF there is a problem, ASUS can hopefully fix via a firmware patch and up the mW of the radio. Assuming the radio allows this.

The Nokia N900 actually allowed you to increase mW in the settings.

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The other spin can be Anandtech does far more thorough testing and noticed it, where the others did their "cursory amongst many reviews" to publish and move to the next.

All of this is superfluous anyway, since a very short timeframe to see if correct. If anything were to hurt the Prime, it will be the ability to output the Tegra 3 in the tablets at a rate that can keep up with demand beyond small batch shipments. My guess is THAT will be what hurts the Prime for the first couple months. New tech is a b*tch. Tegra 2 was out and about awhile before consumer devices. Tegra 3 is out of the gate running.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
I didn't see Wifi performance tests in most reviews. Anandtech is known to be more thorough. Just because other reviewers didn't perform a test, does not prove there is no issue. In fact, Androidcentral is a good example. The reviewer did not test Wifi at first, but then did a follow up test, and found Wifi was not as strong as other devices in the same class:

http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-transformer-prime-possibly-delayed-until-2012-wifi-issues

Actually he said "average speed tended to be in the 15 - 20Mbps range". This is after making changes to his setup (disabling access points), that was not necessary with the TF101. "I get a consistent 34 - 37Mbps on the original Eee Pad Transformer". Regardless of the speed, this could potentially mean there is fussiness with the wireless adapter. The reviewer said it himself: "One thing is for sure, the Prime is going to be far more finicky than its predecessor when it comes to reaching peak speeds over WiFi." Is it fast enough? Well, that's up to the individual, but if I get consistent and stable 15 to 20Mbps, then I would be okay with that. But it is clearly slower than the TF101 according to the reviewer.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5178/an-update-on-transformer-prime-battery-life-wifi-issues

It didn't just "go to 30Mbps", after making the changes, he said "depending on tablet and AP orientation I'd see anywhere between 10Mbps and 36Mbps downstream (average speed tended to be in the 15 - 20Mbps range)."

Whether or not the speed difference is "extremely minor" is up to the individual. The bigger question is whether or not the multiple WAPs are an indication of the TF201's wireless being finicky. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

Suspect by who? So someone who doesn't wax poetic and spew loving emotion about the Prime is an Apple conspirator? Take off the tin-foil hat. I don't own anything Apple, I have a Kindle Fire, and my next tablet will likely be the TF201.

People posting their experiences, and posting questions about possible weaknesses in the Prime are not necessarily conspirators. It's a tech forum, and the truth should be told, both bad and good.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Noobs will be noobs, Regardless of what facts brought to their face. Anandtech is not the only one who did wifi tests. slash gear did wifi test also and found no issues. I'll take the majority over one or 2 bad wifi reviews. Even then they still love the tablet.

I'll just let ectoplasmic aka jeiwong...stay in his delusions...plus coming from a kindle fire means no real tablet experience..lmfao. I suggest go back to that section of forums n continue trolling over there..I heard they got ICS ready to run on it soon. Keep posting about your one or 2 reviews stating bad wifi. There are way more stating wifi works fine. Majority wins. Bye bye ;)

As Mr. T would say- I Pity Da Foool

Also, this is like talking trash in football. Don't get so sensitive. It's like you a Cowboys fan n I'm a Redskin, which I am. Don't take the noob thing so serious. I know deep down you love everything about the Prime. Someone else did make a point though, seems all you post is some negative oriented rumors or such. Time for a constructive thread/post, don't you think? Instead of always finding the negative or flaws in someone/something, be positive for a change. The delay rumors/wifi issues are like beating a dead horse. The myths/rumors have already been debunked. Time to move on.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
Insightful post. The high point is the name calling and paranoia.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bimboy:
Damn, you're one negative person. I gave you technical realities, and you eschew them so continue your inexplicable bias.

BUT I'll humor you...

We are talking about something that even

IF it existed

, it's imperceptible to all except in testing benchmarks.

Will it affect internet browsing? No.

Will it affect streaming 1080p mkv's? No.

Will it affect streaming from online services? No.

Will it affect online gaming? No.

Will it affect remote desktop? No.

None of those exceed, or approach, 20Mbps.

Will it affect transferring a 5gb file from your desktop to your TP? Possible, and if it does, it would simply take a few seconds longer for it to transfer.

What else do you use the internet for on a tablet that exceeds 20Mbps?

So I have two serious questions for you. 1. What is it that you're all worked up about, that you'll use this tablet for that you'd be limited from performing, if you had a mystical 20Mbps cap? 2.Do you have an internet connection than is consistently faster than 20Mbps? I'm honestly curious.

The answers for me are: 1. Nothing, and 2. No.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Very well put. Thanks. Hopefully your post will ease those overreacting. Really good post as I like all the examples of real life usage you used. I don't think he has a comeback to that..lol
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JoeyLe:
True this. Also, why not wait untill Asus gives a offical statement about the "issue", and IF ITS THERE and they can't fix it then then continue with the whining?

Perhaps those reviewers had early hardware or software?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeptikal:
My preorder is not going anywhere but I am a little worried about the WiFi issue. I have a 50mbps connection but I'm not that worried about speed issues with the Prime. Speed is just an indicator of other possible problems like reliability. I don't think any of us have enough information to know if we are dealing with a real issue or if the Prime's WiFi is just a little slower than the tf101. I wish we could get some more really in-depth testing from some others who have a TFP in-hand.

All that said I am really excited to get mine; issues or not. I would love to do this testing myself. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
1) I'm not worked up at all. I did say in my post I would be okay with it if I get consistent and stable 15 to 20Mbps.

2) No, I'm at 18Mbps down, so only LAN transfers would be likely be affected, although I could use the max rate when moving files to the device over the LAN.

This is all assuming that the speed reduction, if it shows up in retail units, is not an indication of finicky wireless. If it's just a little slower, but otherwise rock solid, then I'm okay with that. We'll have to wait and see.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MrGiggles:
Puts on Tinfoil Hat...... :rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] skeptikal:
Take off the tinfoil hat and put on a flame retardant suit because usually where there's smoke there's fire. :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Bimboy:
So, we're good then. :) If it even shows up at all, for the limited number of units, and the extremely limited number of people that have many access points on the same network, they they'd only be very slightly affected with huge file transfers, and pretty much nowhere else.

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Don't forget the coat hanger trick as well. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] techjunkie9194:
My concern with a possible WiFi issue is really distance and stability of connection. My home was built around the civil war and is made of three layers of brick inside and out. I have wireless end to end on the 2nd floor. It would be nice to move around on the 1st floor with reasonable signal strength and speed.

I am not too concerned. I will get my Prime, test it out and if it has problems I will wait just a little while to be sure and at some point send it back for repair/replacement. I am not going to let this work me up too much as I am sure Asus will repair/replace any defective units if there are some for whatever reasons be it WiFi or something else. The Asus devices I have owned and used in the past have been of high quality and I believe that in the end we will all be pleased with our state of the art tablets.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
Yes, I'm fine with your use case. I wish you had left it there without bringing up a lot of new spin in the second part. No need for the bias when you're clearly able to parse the issue without it. I'll leave it there.
[HTC Sensation] N4rbs:
Can anybody please (that are running a default Sensation ROM) copy and paste their build.prop? I need it so I can edit the settings to get apps in the marketplace. Thanks!
[HTC Sensation] mikef:
You can download whatever ROM you need the build.prop file from to your computer and open the zip file to drill down to the /system/build.prop file.
[Android Themes] Kenno78:
Simple, 12 icon set, with inspiration from Mass Effect. Icons in black and white. Size is 128x128.
[Android Themes] dbisch:
Nice work. These would go perfect with the FineLine themes.
[Android Themes] Stilleh:
Can you make a version for miui?
[HTC Rezound] brandonkill02:
Anyone know why I can't see files and folders I added to my Sd card and why is it that I can't browse by artist in the sstock music app
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
Did you try a reboot? You can try sd card rescan apps as well.
[HTC Rezound] roto8car:
I copied music directly to the /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd/ directory and now I have duplicates of albums. It's a pain. Anyone know how to add music so this doesn't happen?:confused:
[HTC Rezound] rossholly:
A fix for duplicate titles in stock music app

I encountered this phenom the other night when using airsync to xfer tracks to the sd card instead of internal storage. Double twist warns that this is experimental, and sure enough, that's when things got off kilter. Long story short, I deleted the music directory on the sd card and then moved the untouched music directory from internal storage to the sd card. I then made sure that the music directory in the internal storage was truly empty. I then performed a clean cache followed by a reboot. Both doubletwist and the stock player are keyed to the sd card directory, and voila, no more duplicates.
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
I have no problems with the music app and the music files I copied onto my sd card.

All I did was make a "Music" folder on the external (?) card, the one that mounts second and is NOT named "HTC Storage". Copied my music in there so the next directory down is the band name (Music > PJ Harvey > [album]) and everything works as it should. When I went into the music app the phone scanned for my library, found everything, and I am able to switch between viewing by album, artists, songs etc. with no problem.

I had no idea how to get my music on there since there is no mention of it in the manual so I just tried that out and it worked. :)