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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
The first meaningful post which also aims to be objective rather than quoting specs.

Thank you for confirming, at least someone managed to read through my post and actually perform something.

This shows me what you know and how much visual acuity you have when it comes to things like this, I mean no disrespect or in anyway be offensive to you but I dont believe that its 100% black on your end. But I respect your opinion. Thank you.

Very true, the S1 screen was really great.. it really brought the expectation level at an all time high.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vcespon:
There's a lot of variation on the screens we are getting, my Galaxy Note screen has no color variation, banding, dead pixels, and the blacks are real black. In a dark room, displaying a black image, I can't see the limit between screen and plastic bezel. Exactly as with the screen off.

The same with video playback. I recommend to use BBC One Human Planet trailer in HD. It has a lot of colors and transitions to black screens. I see the screen completly back, no difference to the black plastic bezel.

This is a black Galaxy Note, on a black background displaying a mostly black image. Brightness set to maximum.

Now you tell me you can see the limit between SAMOLED screen and plastic bezel

[IMG=http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2984/dscf2516f.jpg][/IMG]
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
No color variation is plausible, banding is SW issue so nobody is excepted from it unless you can prove it, dead pixels are pretty rare that its a non issue, black levels are lit let yours eyes adjust to the darkness for 3~5mins and you can clearly see a lit black its always been like that since the SGS1 days, your phone is no exception.

Your screen is perfect for you, I respect that and Im very happy for you, wish I had that screen. Cheers!

Response to your added image:

Your image proves nothing since the discussion is about black levels in total darkness while displaying the black image from the LCD test, your picture shows an image displayed making an illusion that the blacks are very deep, I also get the same black levels when im displaying even just a few pixels of white and you have ambient light since I can clearly see the bezel.

Basically we are comparing 2 different things but thank you for trying.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martcerv:
Seriously who uses a phone like that and whats the point of that test. OLED does show a little light in the dark when you do that but my GS2 and note are pretty much the same, during this test I notice some darker blotches on my gs2 screen. Does that mean its faulty? not to me as Ive never noticed it in real use and thats what the device is for not to sit in the dark for 3 minutes to find some obscure issue to complain about.

There are real screen defects that will occur to some people not matter what device you get, then get it replaced. There are confirmed software issues and these will hopefully be addressed soon enough.

Many more people have no physical issues with their screens then the ones that do but its funny how some people just wont accept that and have to believe every screen is faulty.

Seeing a little light through a screen in total darkness is not a hardware fault, maybe you should turn off your phone as it will save your battery and at the same time the screen will be perfectly dark, I prefer to have my screen on and use it but we all use our devices differently :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SAlmighty:
You can really see a reddish tint when displaying all blacks in the LCD Test. Have no idea what is responsible for this, but you do see all black dots; I've seen this in Chinese and Vietnamese stock, no difference really in that. There too many variations. I've seen worse in my old SGS2 Korea-made.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LordManhattan:
Are you kidding me? I should try it? I HAVE the Note, and i'm often using the phone in the dark. Should i post a photo from a completely dark room with a black wallpaper? Fine.

Here's an image from a completely dark room. This is a picture of my Note with a black image on the screen. AGAIN, if your screen sucks, doesn't mean that EVERY screen sucks.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7644/img2346777.jpg

And again,

"LCD technology engages a backlight, whereas OLED has no backlighting function. Hence an LCD is not possible to display true black, OLED has a so called off element which produces no light and consumes no power. In general, organic LED technology consumes less power. This is especially useful for devices that are supplied by battery power. As there is no backlighting they can have a thinner form and a more light weighted character."

Really? Press the link.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
:D:D:D

Short and powerful :) That's good posting ...

I will quote and re-quote it (or parts of it) from time to time for the "usefulness" of it and also for fun ;) :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alexanderbooth:
I don't knwo about anyone else, this is my first amoled screen and when theres somethings black towards the edge of the screen I can't see the difference between the screen and the black bezel on the side, I just can't pick it out with my eyes. So it must be pretty black I guess.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
I also get that kind of image when the shutter speed is at 1/800 which is what you are using on your Rebel XT. But hey I understand that you've got a perfect screen that can display true and indistinguishable blacks, dont let our real world experience ruin your belief. Cheers!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
I do, I use my phone as my portable media device.. I usually watch HD movies/series before I goto sleep dark scenes are obviously more lit on the G-Note hence I asked the question since every G-Note I've seen does this. Im wondering if this is a norm or not.

LordManhattan clearly disagrees with you and says that there is absolutely no lit to be expected on blacks on OLED based technology. Makes me wonder why those non SAMOLED devices show blacks as lit as a regular LCD.

Thanks for the confirmation, on my end the G-Note is has a very lit black the S2 probably has 10x better blacks I need to put the screen close to my face in order to see the lit blacks.. at arms length I cant tell if the screen is on, on my G-Note I can tell if its on even if I place it at the far end of the hallway.

Its only faulty if its affecting your usage, I would consider that fault because it would ruin my experience with the phone and will affect my usage. This was the cause for my 3rd replacement on my S2.

True, a lot of people even dont care so much for dead pixels as they only use their phones to call.

This post already gave me a clear answer followed by a few other who confirmed it. No further drama required.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] martcerv:
That small blotchiness on the black screen on the gs2 does not effect normal usage a I've never seen it in use unless looking at a pure black image in the dark for long enough so my eyes adjust. I don't calk that normal usage and that's what i meant that nobody users the phone like that. My gs2 has the best seen I've ever seen when it comes to playing dark videos and general use.

The software issues in the note are causing poor dark video playback but from my screen as far as I can tell there are no hardware issues and that's the frustrating thing with the banding and grey levels issue.

What supercurio has said means much more coming from him but as we can see with the screen inconsistencies it doesn't mean as much. Some screens are terrible and some are pretty good so how many has he seen, they are all so different and i think that's the main issue here.

I use mine for much more then making phone calls which are actually fairly low in my usage of the device. Like I've said may times when rendered correctly on my sgn the blacks are not noticeably different to my sgs2 which has a near prefect screen on it apart from the size.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
Hence I specifically said on my first post that the comparison has to be done on the LCD test menu to eliminate the "if parts"
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eug:
Both my SGS2 and Galaxy Note have a very faint red glow in a totally dark room. They both look as faint as each other.

But why does this even matter? Are people turning into the phone equivalent of golden-ears audiophiles? Nobody will ever see the "problem" in real life, unless they're actually looking for problems.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
If you actually read the thread and the first post you would understand why it matters, just because you only use your note as a phone and not a media device doesnt mean it wont matter to others.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] npras42:
In a way I agree and disagree with you.

There is definitely a glow that comes from the Note when it is supposed to be showing completely black. This is only really noticeable in very dark conditions with the brightness at maximum.

I've just tried personally and I am getting a slight reddish-grey haze that is uniform across the screen.

I dont know about in comparison to other phones. Quite frankly that is not really important. You say it is important to you because you're a media-phile. Well so am I. I just dont consume all my media on my phone, I use a large plasma screen that is widely reputed as having the best black levels in the industry. All I can say is the black levels on the Note still wipe the floor with it and in the end that is all that I need to know.

The most picky HDTV reviewers on the planet would think the black levels are beyond anything you will find on any other type of visual display tech, so I think its a case of just getting on with it. Yes its not perfect, but as everyone has said its likely some software fix will help colour production and possibly even black somewhat. I just think you are being too picky. Fix what really needs to be fixed. This is a non-issue.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartijnMM:
Well, that's a black picture with zero info, everyone can make that.

Make a photo of this image on your Note and post that:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
This thread is not about a complaint or ranting thread, this is an inquiry thread for those who have a previous SAMOLED device and since you dont have one Im not sure what your doing in this thread as your opinion barely matters.

I dont claim to be a media-phile nor do I care how/where you watch your media at, This is a non issue for you since we dont use the phone in the same way but the main fundamental factor is you dont have a previous SAMOLED device to compare it with. This is an inquiry thread not a come and defend the screen thread. Stop the Trololol.

Some people are getting the same blacks with their S1/S2 and other are getting better on their older devices, those people have meaningful input.. In short variance with SAMOLED screens differ by a huge margin.

Its actually not a black picture, its a picture from his rebel with the camera cover still on at 1/800 shutter speed in auto.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eug:
If you read my reply, you would notice that I answered your query directly in the first line - my Note is just as black as my SGS2, i.e. they both have a faint glow.

What I don't get is - how does it actually affect you or anyone? What sort of media do you watch that involves looking at a completely black screen in total darkness?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eksasol:
To me, when I set the background to black and turn off the phone, the black is the same when its on and off (even with full screen brightness). I think the physical color of the panel is not black as the SGSII panels, that's all. Although remember this is my specific unit (Polish version) and my own opinion.

Sorry, but coming from the SGSII, the screen has big problems compared to the Note and many people seems to have issues. Just not even acceptable, so even if it has blacker level isn't going to save it, the Note screen is still so much better. Still a slight amount of imperfect smooth reproduction of grey across the screen with my unit, otherwise its great. Still Samsung need to improve their quality control or they just think customers are not smart enough to notice.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
The S2 also has its own share of screen related problems, customers are smart enough to notice it but they accepted it as normal so in the end they can feel better about their purchase and samsung can just keep the low quality control.

Thanks for your input though, this confirms that my note really has a very lit black level like of an LCD.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
Yes I've read your reply and I understood that the black levels on your note is the same as on your S2, good for you bravo since yo asked specific recognition for it.

The blacks on the note I got is very lit, have you seen the black levels on a TN panel? Thats what Im getting, lit blacks. How does it affect me? It ruins the point of having a SAMOLED screen with deep blacks, i can use the phone as a flashlight even with an all black screen. True story. The service center techs signed off for a screen replacement already but Im yet to go back to actually do the processes since they required me to bring the proof of purchase.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] npras42:
The only person trolling your own thread is you. You say its not a "complaint" thread or another "screen issue" thread and that you're only reference point is a previous SAMOLED device.

Half the page down and you start going on that the screen is as bad as a TN LCD panel and that you have taken it to a Samsung engineer who has diagnosed it as faulty.

Im sorry but your posts are conflicting, pointless and also exaggeratedly defensive as soon as anyone says anything about the screen being fine. Even critiscising people who as you say have got previous SAMOLED devices and therefore a valued opinion. This thread is not an enquiry or simple information collecting, this thread is an thinly-veiled attempt to validate your thoughts that there is a problem with the Note screen in general. I have no problem with you trying to find out if that is the case but then you cant just dismiss everyone's thoughts on it if they dont quite match your experience.

The only way you would be happy with the responses would be if you had 100 replies from previous SGS ans SGSII owners telling you that the screen is crap compared to their old phones.

So with that said I have no further reason to be in this thread. Knock yourself out on your witch hunt...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reinbeau:
I think we're done here, it's descending into bickering.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RsurNexusS:
HI i have installed my backup pro and am planning to use it before the ics ota update. I have backed up all my data,apps and games using mybackup and i have copied all the games and apps apk files to my cmputer from the file where it said mybackup pro in my usb storage. Now i have all my apps and games apk files saved on my computer but i do not know how to restore everyhting and restore these games and apps files. How do i restore these apps n games onto my phone? Did i do the right way of backing up in the first place?

Thanks alot:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
put them back onto your sd card, into the same place, open mybackup pro and press the restore option.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RsurNexusS:
how do i get mybackup pro back in the first place since i reset my phone?should the mybackup pro apk file have been backed up as well?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RsurNexusS:
please help...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
well.. if you bought it off the market, it would be available to you to download and install from "my apps". if you didnt buy it(off the market), you should have copied the apk file over to your sd storage/computer.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RsurNexusS:
so i reinstall mybackup pro and restore?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
yup. thats all you do :p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Idrito:
This poll is about which launcher you prefer on SGA. ADW o Go ?

I have long time with Go but i want to know if it's recommendable the ADW.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] domnic79:
Go launcher is gud. It eats less memory. Adw is a lil bulky & sumtimes is force close. Stay with go launcher.

Sent from Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 using Grif's Cyanogenmod & allinone ram script.

Dont jus say thanks, use d 'THANKS' button. [XDA RULE]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
I find ADW Launcher better than GO Launcher
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] shreyasvb:
ADW launcher FTW..!! :D

N the fact is go launcher eats more ram than ADW..!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jusada:
Never thought I'd say it as I'm a hardcore go fan, but adw is currently better.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] dragonnn:
I like more Go Launcher because ADW don't allow to create folders in app drawer. This is only option witch I'am missing in ADW.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] RobertsAccount:
Go Launcher is so much smoother, I think that ADW is good but I am a sucker for performance and eye candy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
Not much of a fan of either of the two, but I would prefer ADW to Go any day
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] kesterpogz:
adw ftw!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] alexnm:
Launcher Pro all the way :D

But I'm switching to ADW as soon as I figure out how to hide apps from the drawer :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] saigetshu:
I like ADWLauncher very much. . .
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] shriramc4:
I will go for Go Launcher because of eye candy
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
Go launcher has a widget for almost everything and some cool customization. Uninstalled it from my ace because it makes my phone lag like hell and eats memory like no tomorrow. Currently using The best launcher out there: ADW EX. Its a paid app because its HELLA WORTH IT.

The speed and simpleness and all the high customization are just incredible. More than Go Launcher I must say. And the best of all, IT RUNS SMOOTHLY. Sure Go Launcher has eye candy to the max and go locker and all those things. But whatever. I prefer a mix of speed and eye candy. ADW EX is hands down the best out there for me.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SpaceCaker:
Go launcher it has smoother app drawer and more themes
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Ace9876:
LauncherPro is better than ADW and Go-Launcher.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jusada:
Trouble is its not updated anymore. With new feature being added to adw and go all the time pro is getting left behined.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] catapult1234:
They have friendstream widget yet? ;)

Cheers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] sergini:
I'm going for GO launcher. Much smoother and much eye friendly. No doubt, I vote for GO.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Bayint Naung:
I prefer adw launcher. Go launcher use more RAM. (not sure now).

I don't like go launcher app drawer(3 tabs!!!)

Adw free is open source and is used in Cyanogen as default launcher.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] dragonnn:
Bayint Naung you can disable the 3 tabs app drawer in Go Launcher settings :).
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] PT.Kinas:
Memory Usage

I think memory usage is not the essential criteria to choose, because ADW (v1.3.6) takes about 30 Mb of RAM and GO Launcher (v2.68) takes something like 32 Mb. I think you need more info to make your choice and I'll try to show my experience with 3 best launchers (for me):

=> ADW (v1.3.6 - Dec 2010, APK: 1166Kb - RAM: 30 Mb)

Pros: Fast and stable

Cons: Few Options, Few Free Themes, need upgrade (last release from 2010)

=> Go Launcher (v2.68 - Nov 2011, APK: 4366 Kb - RAM: 32 Mb)

Pros: Lot of Options, Lot of Free Themes, Integrates with other Go tools (weather, locker, SMS, etc)

Cons: Little slow with some GO widgets, some delay on transition effects

=> Launcher Pro (v0.8.6 - May 2011, APK: 2119 Kb - RAM: 30 Mb)

Pros: Faster and smooth effects

Cons: Few Free Themes, some old versions not stable

So,

if you want full customization, GO Launcher is the best option

if you need speed and smooth effects, try ADW and Launcher Pro

Choose an Android Launcher is something like to choose a ROM, because each one have specific target users and the better way to choose is install all and try (when you finally choose, you can uninstall the others)

I hope this helped your choice :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jimbo.levy:
I prefer ADW Launcher :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] sdotmouse:
ADW is open source. ADW Ex is not. CM started using ADW as their launcher after they got a C&D notice from Google for unauthorized distribution of Google apps. That is why they come as a separate flashable zip in official builds.

Personally I prefer ADW Ex myself. It looks better and functions better. Especially as LP/Zeam/LiveHome and others are built from ADW source. Go Launcher is way to bloated these days and a resource hog. I have seen it using up to 48MB of RAM at times and averaging 32 - 40MB. Not cool.

Sent from a phone with an app.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Idrito:
Well i prefer Go Launcher cuz' when i tried ADW,my sga was very slow LIKE HELL and i really hate that.

I <3 GO

SGA w/ XDA Premium
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] sdotmouse:
Have you tried Trip's ICS build for the Sensation yet? It looks quite promising. All his ROMs I've used have been very good.

Sent from a phone with an app.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] dearde4n:
u can just disable the app drawer tab from setting (im not using it either)... prefer go launcher here..:D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
I prefer ADW,only option i miss from Go launcher is the add folder option....
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] xarive:
Dude, how to switch from adw launcher to go launcher? I dislike the lagness of adw launcher in CM7.2 mod version ROM which is laggy. FirstUA's ROM using Go Launcher which is so smooth and I LIKE IT.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] noobdroid_90:
If i HAVE to choose between the two, id prefer go launcher, i find adw a bit laggy

but i prefer launcher pro above the others, 'cause it takes least ram and is the least laggy of the three
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] techimanu:
Why would you choose a different launcher?

I guess the only reason i can think of is for more customization and themes.

Though ADW and GO are about the same when it comes to performance, I would definitely go with GO launcher for the reason that it comes with lot of free themes and widgets. Especially I like the Go Locker with different themes.

My verdict Go Launcher Ex