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[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
Same here in India. No update released for I9100 but I9100G already got 2.3.6. So, if you want mods, go for I9100 or else get I9100G.

As I posted earlier, the benchmark difference in I9100 and G is merely 300 pts in Antutu. The mali and Exonys is definitely better and powerful, but there are very few apps that utilize that power. All games run fine, all videos run fine, the UI is smooth as butter and no heating at all on I9100G. So, who needs that extra power, and for what? Only for your e-pen*s?
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
exactly! :D :D
[Galaxy S II General] ayaskant12:
hmm TE mate here!!

nice to see u satisfied
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
:) Its okay really. I dont reallly need the custom ROMs. Even ICS seems not that cool from what I saw. The orange effect when we click some menu item was horrible.
[Galaxy S II General] ayaskant12:
the orange border denotes that its a alpha or beta build and wont be there in the final build bro.

anyways ics in naked form was sexy but samsung is adamant on raping it!!

dunno why these bullish guys are always after sexy things
[Galaxy S II General] TheQuarterMile:
Can anyone tell me the manufacturing date of the I9100G in India? Is it mentioned on the box that its the G-Variant? cause I dont want the G!

Is the November batch still I9100 in India?
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
Check the product code on the box.

I9100LKGINU- I9100G

I9100LKAINU- I9100
[Galaxy S II General] xsaintzx:
I think it is a no brainer that you should choose non-G over the G version if both is available, but in some case like in my country, there are no more non-G version, so users do not have a choice, too bad.
[Galaxy S II General] spoiltz:
I bought the phone on 20 nov, and its non g. I had the option between both, so I chose non g.
[Galaxy S II General] bala_gamer:
you are lucky to get a non G one.:)
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
What is your phone's manufacturing date?
[Galaxy S II General] rahulkumar2048:
but it i9100g doesnt have community support!!
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
I don't know why, I like the G version more. Less heating, much much much better battery life & everything silky smooth with more RAM in the 2.3.6 update. Why does everyone want the G one ? Just bcause of custom roms? :P
[Galaxy S II General] spoiltz:
I know, i knew non g had exynos, and dev support is vast.
[Galaxy S II General] ZRong223:
Even G version is capped at 1GHz, we can root the kernel and overclock it back to 1.2 Ghz. Is this right?
[Galaxy S II General] rsaged:
This is what i dont understand. I checked my CPU speeds and (depends on load of course) it hit 1.2. So when u say its capped, what do u mean? Mine is the G version of course...
[Galaxy S II General] rajarshi10:
Mine is at 1008 Mhz in Antutu. I want it overclocked at 1.2. How do I do it?
[Galaxy S II General] spoiltz:
ROOT it, then flash any overclockable kernel, if any, available for non g version.

DO NOT FLASH THE KERNELS MEANT FOR I9100(NON-G)

Then use setcpu, or any other app to overclock your phone.

Or, go custom. :p
[Galaxy S II General] Prankey:
Overclock? Dude, that is the DEFAULT Max SUPPORTED speed of this phone! Just that the governor is more conservative and HARDLY clocks about 1GHz. Just because Antutu says its 1GHz, doesn't mean that it doesn't support 1.2GHz by default. Relax and do some more testing before jumping to conclusion.
[Galaxy S II General] aceofclubs:
I9100 and it's compatible devices should only be in this forum and the forum should be clearly labeled so there is no confusion.

Anything not should have its own forum.

As for which is better argument...what a waste of time...

Phones, cars and motorbikes will always have devoted supporters that will defend their favourite. At the same time whining whingers will never be happy.
[Galaxy S II General] pikachu01:
If you want to vote for an i9100G forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1301121&page=186

Post there!
[Galaxy S II General] ZRong223:
It means that the CPU will always only raise to 1GHz and does not hit 1.2GHz unless any EXTREMELY critical situation needs it.

This is my point of view, of course.
[Galaxy S II General] fizzy15:
Just install asphalt6 not from samsung market and it run.. Got wrong info before this the G version cannot play the game.. Found out month after and it load faster than my ip4.. Wow
[Galaxy S II General] serge327:
This is the Antutu Benchmark's Scored (I9100-G only rooted OC to 1200MHZ with SetCPU, Stock ROM) * Just for reference...
[Galaxy S II General] serge327:
i can play it smoothly without problem :) mine one is G version :)
[Galaxy S II General] blunted09:
I'll still take the 9100 over the g. its just faster.
[Galaxy S II General] serge327:
Depend:) i take G over Non-G :D as the antutu scored showed :D
[Galaxy S II General] ed10000:
Omg! Why did the IO performance die so badly with OC?! :eek:

Anyway, I9100 is any day better than the I9100G. Reminds me of a year back when Samsung quietly introduced the I9003 Galaxy SL in the Indian market so that they could meet global demands for I9000 Galaxy S.

Exynos on I9100 is any day faster than the OMAP 4430.

MALI400MP is the future - there's a reason why they switched to MALI400MP from PowerVR SGX540 used in the Galaxy S. Because it's faster. :p

Did anyone notice the HSPA specs?

I9100 vs I9100G:

HSDPA - 21Mbps vs 7.2Mbps

HSUPA - 5.76Mbps vs 2Mbps.

Ouch! Those who're on Docomo for their wonderful HSDPA speeds will be disappointed. :/

And development -there's no question about it. I9100 does and will always have more AND better experienced developers working on it, simply because it is global and has already sold millions of units worldwide. Just look at the I9000 and I9003 development forums, the difference is MASSIVE.

So, to anyone still planning to get a new phone, I'd suggest you hunt for a shop that still has some I9100 in stock. You'll definitely be rewarded for it. ;)

P.S. - I own neither an I9100 nor an I9100G, but have seen both in flesh and played with them enough. Just so you know my opinions aren't biased. :)

P.P.S. - Those who've purchased the I9100G, c'mon guys, just because you guys own that phone doesn't make it better, does it? Neither does meaningless justification that it is better, through synthetic benchmarks.
[Galaxy S II General] serge327:
Do you get wrong?u dint open my attachment and see?

1008mhz G version Database IO already higher than NON G 1200mhz = 330>220

and overclock to 1200mhz G version get Database IO 385! more than 1200mhz NON G version's 220 Database IO... swt.. the Non-G version have lost database IO score to G version bro :)

***Sorry for Bad English***
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
lol, Galaxy Nexus has PowerVR SGX540, which is released later than Galaxy SII. Then Note also got Mali400MP. So that Mali400MP is the future statement is incorrect.

Now Galaxy SII Duos is launched, it has Adren 220 and Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, its latest in SII family. So now what you will say? Adreno 220 is future?

Even Galaxy R is having Adreno 220?

And then you say Mali400MP is better, can you see Antutu benchmarks pics? Why I9100G's 3D graphics score is better than I9100? These scores mean nothing my friend.
[Galaxy S II General] anantn:
Well other day i was messing around with a white i9100g in a showroom, and on comparing with my own i9100 NON G, i noticed the following differences.

Processing power and responsiveness:

Although the benchmarks speak otherwise, my NON G has been butter smooth in all instances, and very seldomly lags if at all. I'm afraid i cant say the same for the G variant, opening the widget drawer and sometimes even while shuffling through the app drawer, with a live wallpaper running in the background, i notice numerous instances of lag and UI stutter.....while my NON G was handling all those fluidly.

Audio output:

The i9100 G has provably better DAC than the i9100, but they are nigh indistinguishable, unless youre willing to splurge on some 100-150 USD on a headphone collection.

Display:

This would be obvious advantage the G has over the NON G. The original variant exhibits Terrible colour banding, relegating almost anything and everything even remotely graphically intensive, to 16 bit colour mode from the dos era. And it's apparently a fault of the mali-400, which is why even note suffers the same.

Some games (angry birds, impossible game) etc, many live wallpapers and lots of other apps, look downright INTOLERABLE, ...

The G version addresses the issue with a SOC swap, which would/should be desirable to many.

Battery Life:

Didnt get to test this, but the difference would be negligible ~10% more battery longevity on the i9100-g from what reports suggest.

Conclusion:

Its really boils down to whether you choose to live with the horrible irremediable display banding of the original, but get more choice with custom roms and fluid interface, OR go for the non-g, which uses SAMOLED in its full glory(no banding), provides better battery life and better compatibility with some apps.
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
Also, there is NO wakeup lag at all in the G version. Its instant as compared to I9100.

Seriously, the first choice should always be I9100 because of the awesome ROM support, and NOT because its powerful. A few benchmarks points difference means nothing when you have color banding, more heating and lesser battery life.

If I9100 is NOT available at all, then I9100G becomes the only choice, and its still a great phone, better than most phones in the market. The ROM support WILL improve, thanks to its SoC being similar to Galaxy Nexus, Moto Razr, Optimus 3D and many other phones, its just a matter of time before devs get their hands on it.
[Galaxy S II General] hadiknv:
GT i9100G score

FYR:

my i9100G got 5992 (OC to 1200MHz)
[Galaxy S II General] ed10000:
Could someone please post Linpack and Quadrant Advanced screens for I9100G? I'm especially interested in the Linpack numbers.
[Galaxy S II General] mizuki555:
There is a lot of models differents now

It becomes difficult to choose

Any people said some model aren't recognized on samsung app (ex. I9100P i velieve)
[Galaxy S II General] ed10000:
To anyone who isn't convinced that Mali-400MP is a big step-up from SGX540, please read the AnandTech article here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17

To quote a couple of lines from the article,
[Galaxy S II General] darrez:
you are rite...i hv both i9100 n i900G..for now there's more custom rom n tweak for i9100 as compare to i9100G so thats why im giving the later to my wife :D

but still i dun see much different between both device for everyday use..more or less is the same..:)
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
Yeah it is, but the GPU in Iphone 4S beat it fair and square.

Seriously though, what does that extra power of Mali-400MP do? The SGX540 is smooth in UI operation, can play all the games without any lag, can play full HD videos without any issues. So, what is the need of the extra power? Benchmarks? All I can think off is it can use 16xAA and 16xAF in Chainfire 3D, which is again, very less noticable on a 4 inch screen.

Also, even Galaxy Nexus, Moto Razr and Optimus 3D have same GPU, so its not like its some outdated GPU which wont be used later. Also, just as FYI, the GPU in I9100G is having more clock speed (300 Mhz) compared to 200 Mhz in Galaxy S and Nexus S. So dont see their benchmarks/reviews and judge the power of SGX540 in I9100G.

I have said earlier, and I say it again, the POWER is NOT the reason to get I9100 over I9100G, as that extra power doesn't mean a crap in real world usage, unless you are someone who keeps posting his benchmarks all over the place. It all comes down to available custom ROMs, and thats it.
[Galaxy S II General] override182:
To all SGS2 users, enjoy yours.. stop comparing yours with others and saying whos better etc. If u can utilize ur phone to the fullest, thats good enough. And if u want to compare stuffs and be ignorant, get an iPhone and be an iFag.
[Galaxy S II General] ed10000:
Since when did we start comparing the GPUs with iPhones'? Isn't this a discussion regarding I9100 and I9100G? :confused: And yes, Optimus 3D that is benchmarked in the Anandtech article has SGX540 running @ 300MHz too, in fact all OMAP 44xx come with this overclocked version.

Anyway, I find your argument very pointless. If you're not looking for power, if you're looking to play EXISTING games, you can always go for a Galaxy S and that will still be just as smooth in everyday use, plus you'll save like 10k bucks. The whole point of going after high-end devices is so it can process anything that exists today with ease AND is future-proof, at least for a year or two. If you're not looking for power, I seriously think you're in the wrong forums.

Having said that, power DOES equate to performance. You can always UC/UV when battery is your main concern, and let it rip when performance is. Performance might not be important to you for some reason, but I assure you, a majority of the people going after high end phones look for top performance and future proofing. Hence the numerous comparisons all over the Internet.

Custom ROMs, power, performance, high-speed data connectivity - they are all reasons why you should get your hands on an I9100 rather than the G version. Now, I have not noticed the banding issue of the I9100 displays that was recently mentioned in the brief time I've had to play with it, but if that really is that bad, then you should give I9100G a serious thought. If not, I don't see any reason why you would want to.

So anyway, Linpack and Quadrant advanced results anyone?
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
lol. That was funny.

---------- Post added at 12:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:52 AM ----------

lol. You wont get it do you? I will just say that post here when you find a game that runs much better on I9100 when compared to I9100G or an app that refuses to run on I9100G and runs beautifully on I9100. Then we can talk. Right now, keep enjoying the scores which you get on the benchmark apps and let other cellphone user be. Rest all is already said by override182. I have nothing more to add.
[Galaxy S II General] Livespiritster:
you are right sir
[Galaxy S II General] :
Sorry to say, but linpack and/or quadrant have each run on its own that much different results, that they actually say completely nothing if you compare them.

https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.cfbench says more about overall perfomance to compare, but what counts most is what feels best on a device, tha usah experience... cause benches say pooop :D
[Galaxy S II General] gouthama:
now me planing to buy sgs2 so guys plzz tell me which one to choose? either i900 or g series.. got confused?
[Galaxy S II General] spoiltz:
Go for i9100(non-g) undoubtedly.

It has max development support.
[Galaxy S II General] bala_gamer:
+1 for that

ask the following questions to yourself

* which one is having cm9 and leaked ics builds?

* which one will get ICS soon?

* which one is supported most?

* which one is faster comparatively?
[Galaxy S II General] gouthama:
thank u guys, but i was out in search for i9100, but end up in buying i9100G, as every n0n g series is already been replaced by G series, i tried with almost 6 vendors even in sangeetha mobiles and univercell,even in flipkart as i live in bangalore...
[Galaxy S II General] ed10000:
Thanks, but I was specifically looking to compare FLOPS performance of the processor when I wanted Linpack scores. And with Quadrant advanced, I was interested in processor, memory and I/O scores.

For graphics, you should always use something that doesn't run all the way at your device's FPS cap. GLBenchmark does a pretty good job.

Ah! You should have looked more in smaller shops. I'm from Bangalore too and if anyone else is looking for an I9100, vMobiles near Bank Colony had a few in stock two days ago.
[Galaxy S II General] hussainmushahid:
normally not many people will even notice or care about the difference between the two, to them on the box it will say Galaxy S II and that will be enough.When I first ordered a white GSII it turned out to be a I9100G, thankfully I had read the gsmarena article about it and I returned it.They argued that you can't find a I9100 no more but I got it from another store which suddenly increased their price so it costed me some extra $$

The only reason why I chose the I9100 over the G was because it has great dev support, the G has almost to none.
[Galaxy S II General] gouthama:
i saw today two box of galaxy s2 on the box its mentioned as 19100 with sealed one, but wen opened and removed panel of galaxy s2 there its mentioned as 19100G, so i returned that buy'd white colour of G series.. so if any one out for buying.. be careful enough to check completely....
[Galaxy S II General] spoiltz:
Thanks for sharing this info, & OFCourse, Happy New Year to All!!
[Galaxy S II General] zikmir:
Hi people, this is my second Galaxy SII, but this time i got the "G" model. i am well aware of the difference between the chipset difference and the slow cpu blabla.. but what really shocekd me was that even the displays are not the same ! my original galaxy 2 has a deeper and richer colors and i can change them from standered to dynamic...

same option in G version, but when i change the display modes, there is no effect of the image (the one they show on top for comparison) plus, i have version 2.3.6 By ODIN, where my original is still running 2.3.5 .

**** IF SOME ONE CAN CONFIRM ON THEIR "G" MODEL THAT THEIR DISPLAY MODE WORKS OR HAS AN EFFECT FROM StANDERED >DYNAMIC ---- AND BY THAT WHAT VERSION ARE THEY USING, I AM HOPING ITS DUE TO MY PERSONAL UPDATE THAT IS CAUSING THIS DIFFERENCE OR IS IT JUST THAT SAMSUNG fU**ED ME OVER SINCE IM A ASIAN !

Cause seriosuly the black in i9100 is like true black, where as in G its like ****
[Galaxy S II General] salim_belka2002:
I9100; there is a lot of roms specialy ics 4.0.3.
[Galaxy S II General] gouthama:
I had called Samsung customer care India, today regarding Music hub and Android 4.0 update for I9100G series, as executive said there will be NO update of ICS, (update only for I9100) and for g series 2.3.6 will be the last update…

Feeling sad as I will not get an ICS update for my I9100G….

What he said will be true or will we get ICS update?
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
^I dont think he has any idea about what he is talking about. They had no clues when 2.3.6 was not released for I9100, and were bombarded by I9100 users. Same case will be with I9100G.
[Galaxy S II General] spoiltz:
Nothing to feel sad, I9100G will definitely get ICS update.

Samsung Customer Care People are dumb. They never have any idea, of what they're talking about.
[Galaxy S II General] gouthama:
thanks for the replies and hope in getting an ICS update...for my I9100G
[Galaxy S II General] bala_gamer:
epic fail of the year!!! Samsung have great employees who doesnt knows a **** about anything
[Galaxy S II General] :
ICS widout TouchWiz :D am loving it :P
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
How? You got Galaxy Nexus?
[Galaxy S II General] STEVEN_MCK:
interesting to read !
[Galaxy S II General] ambar_hitman:
With this sensible post above, lets lock this thread before any other I9100/G user comes running around posting benchmarks and other sh*t.
[Galaxy S II General] pulser_g2:
Seems like a fair idea, to prevent further misinformation being posted by i9100-G users.

There will likely always be more development for the I9100, simply due to it being the true international edition which was sold on launch day in the UK and EU, and imported into America.

As such, if buying a device for the custom development, be sure to go for the non-G edition, at least for the foreseeable future. I don't really envisage it reaching even a fraction of the non-G model's levels of activity.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Kei Lee:
Hi there!

Yes yes I am a newbie.. my phone is running on CM7 Gingerbread. My problem is that I can not get a phone reception, I can't make calls or send sms, so obviously I can't receive them either. Also whenever I open apps like player pro for example a notification pops up saying force close or wait and it just hangs there. Please could you kind tech savvy people help a girl out.. what do I need to do to try and fix this??
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] droidtwoseven:
Try wiping data/cache and partition on recovery..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Kei Lee:
Yes this was the first thing I tried. Unfortunately no success.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] droidtwoseven:
Do this again with formatting /system then flash ROM again.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Kei Lee:
Haha I am totally at a loss as to what you are asking me to try.. my friend flashed the phone for me and can't get him to do it again. It's only my phone signal and player pro that seems to be not working are you sure I need to flash my phone again?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] droidtwoseven:
I got also the problem before..and the only thing that helps me is reflash..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ndmuni:
Was yr ph on 2.2 or 2.3 b4 u flash cm7?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Kei Lee:
My phone was using 2.2 (Froyo) before I flashed it the first time.. now gonna try this rom - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1324628 - need step by step instructions on how to do this, anyone?

Already backed up all apps with titanium and dl the zip files for the installation...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ndmuni:
suggest u update to stock 2.3 1st otherwise u may ve connections issues again
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Kei Lee:
Please explain.. what is stock 2.3 ^^ ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] domnic79:
Stock 2.3 means Gingerbread roms like 2.3.3 or 2.3.4. U will find d stock roms on samfirmware.com or sammobile.com. As u said u r using on cm7, u will have to flash a full package rom instead of one package. A full package means it should have 4 files in d .zip file.

Sent from Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 using Grif's Cyanogenmod & allinone ram script.

Dont jus say thanks, use d 'THANKS' button. [XDA RULE]
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ace-drink:
Hi

has anyone tried the ICS encryption feature yet? Does it work? Performance impact?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Motivateme:
It touches your SD card data so not recommended for now...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vehi_soc:
quite nice...and very stable. but there some problems to solution.

many fc no uc browser 8.1 (chinese version)

no wish no photo...

act...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eastwater:
I enabled it on CM9, but no dice.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rbarclay:
I have tried repeatedly on my new Galaxy Nexus to make it work, but I can never successfully encrypt the device. It fails half way and then everything is lost... so be careful if/when you decide to encrypt. Be aware if it does not work everything will be wiped; backup everything. Sorry I don't have more useful info. If I get it working I will re-post with my comments about speed etc.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nameite:
The encryption is the only thing that will allow us to use an android device at work...quite sad to see it's still in such infant state...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayarmstrong:
@nameite The full disk encryption offered in the newer Moto updates seems to work well. I encrypted the NAND only on a d2g and everything worked smoothly.
[Nokia Lumia 800] seb_lau:
My live account is broken to the point I will have to use a different one (required a FULL phone reset) and I'm generally not happy with WP7 anyway..

Is anyone currently working on an Android flash as I'd rather reset the phone by installing Android than just reset it and have the same issues later.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Ikkari:
Just sell your Phone and buy a Android, if it happens it will take ages...

Also Android would suck on this Hardware, Android is much to power hungry....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jonatansofer:
Do I have to pay taxes when I order a phone from Europe to the United States (in U.S) ?

Because I found the least expensive to buy at Clove! 694$