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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CoolWaters:
That's kind of the whole point of a class action. Not to compensate the victims, but to change corporate behavior. No individual can afford to bring a suit so the bad behavior continues. The fees can be lucrative, but costs are also overwhelming. The lawyer advances those costs. Without that there is no motivation to bring the small individual claims. I'm shocked you aren't aware of this. Are you a real estate lawyer or something? Even Wiki understands this very basic principle of law. Without the class case you'd still have kids killed by all manner of dangerous toys and be driving exploding Pintos:

First, class action may overcome "the problem that small recoveries do not provide the incentive for any individual to bring a solo action prosecuting his or her rights." Amchem Prods., Inc. v. Windsor, 521 U.S. 591, 617 (1997) (quoting Mace v. Van Ru Credit Corp., 109 F.3d 388, 344 (7th Cir. 1997)). "A class action solves this problem by aggregating the relatively paltry potential recoveries into something worth someone’s (usually an attorney’s) labor." Amchem Prods., Inc., 521 U.S. at 617 (quoting Mace, 109 F.3d at 344). In other words, a class action ensures that a defendant who engages in widespread harm – but does so minimally against each individual plaintiff – must compensate those individuals for their injuries. For example, thousands of shareholders of a public company may have losses too small to justify separate lawsuits, but a class action can be brought efficiently on behalf of all shareholders. Perhaps even more important than compensation is that class treatment of claims may be the only way to impose the costs of wrongdoing on the wrongdoer, thus deterring future wrongdoing.

Third, class action cases may be brought to purposely change behavior of a class of which the defendant is a member. Landeros v. Flood was a landmark case used to purposely change the behavior of doctors, and encourage them to report suspected child abuse. Otherwise, they would face the threat of civil action for damages in tort proximately flowing from the failure to report the suspected injuries. Previously, many physicians had remained reluctant to report cases of apparent child abuse, despite existing law that required it.

Fourth, in "limited fund" cases, a class action ensures that all plaintiffs receive relief and that early-filing plaintiffs do not raid the fund (i.e., the defendant) of all its assets before other plaintiffs may be compensated. See Ortiz v. Fibreboard Corp., 527 U.S. 815 (1999). A class action in such a situation centralizes all claims into one venue where a court can equitably divide the assets amongst all the plaintiffs if they win the case.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] peare:
I wish mine would be backordered again. I want to cancel everything. Not buying anything from BB again and ASUS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jordache16:
Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but here is the response Engadget received from ASUS earlier this morning:

"We started filling the pipelines this past week and will continue to do so on an almost daily basis this coming week, although any shipments to the partners after Wednesday will probably mean availability the following week based on logistics. But we expect the inventory pipeline to be full by the first of the year. The orders shipped this past week and starting this week will cover the pre-order allocations and then start allowing online or in-store availability."

Edit:

Interesting, I just refreshed Engadget and noticed that the article changed slightly. The official statement from ASUS now says this:

"ASUS started filling the inventory pipelines this past week for our new Eee Pad Transformer Prime and will continue to do so on an expedited basis for the foreseeable future. We will reach normal inventory levels in January for the North American market based on current orders and forecasts. Based on forecasted supply schedules to our valued partners we expect pre-order allocation fulfillment to occur shortly and online or in-store availability in the very near future. We will continue to work closely with our partners to fill customer orders as quickly as possible."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DarkSi08:
Yeah, I was pretty excited for a minute, until I went to Engadget and read the quote for myself, and found the updated one. I really need this thing in my hands by Thursday.

I actually went to Amazon last night and ordered a 64GB Gray, hoping that the tablet with less demand has a better chance of being fulfilled, but whichever ships first will be the order I keep... I honestly hope it's the Amazon order, as it's only $35 more (taking tax and shipping into account,) and I've decided I could use the extra capacity, but oh well. I just want the darn thing in my hands already.

Also, I want everyone to keep in mind that Best Buy's business hours at their corporate HQ just started about 45 minutes ago. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] chickut123:
Backordered Email here as well.

Ordered the 24th, (The day after Amazon closed their preorders, wish I had ordered it with them.) :(

I'm seriously so disappointed.

Never will I buy a thing from Best Buy again...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dbrford:
Just checked my BB order status and my dock has a UPS tracking number. Order Status: 1 item(s) shipped via EXPRESS on 12/19/11 via

Tracking Number:UPS 1Z86V80XXXXXXX. Tracking Help.

My Prime still says Order Status: 1 item(s) - Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in 1 - 2 days.

Also now have email confirmation. Hoping that means BB will ship Prime today as well.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cjbailey75:
When and which did you order?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cooper1010:
When did you order?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GizDrak:
I just got another email from Bestbuy....

What? I do not remember ever asking them to do that or even asked about it......
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Blairware:
Bestbuy just bought some real grief....

So Bestbuy gets its share of angry customers, heck, how could they not with the BS way they do business? I was torn whether to place a pre-order there, or at TigerDirect (CompUSA) as they are not my favorite either, but without Amazon what could I do?

What DID was call BB EVERY DAY for the last 3 weeks, (well, missed a Sunday or 2) and got the same BS story every call: "There is no problem." "Your are all SET!" and, my personal favorite: "Your order is confirmed" Translation: Your PAYMENT is confirmed.

Now after yesterdays horror story, I called last night and gave the poor CSR a really hard time "diplomatically" - meaning no yelling, swearing or "You" did this talk (As Scumbag. Inc. points out, there IS a protocol to these things)

Any other company would have been offering me compensation at this point, but Best Buy? Nada. Just "We are going to have an "Order Intercept" person call me withing 72 hours... "What are they going to do, get me a Prime?" "They will help resolve this" Uh huh. Great.

I showed THEM huh? This morning I get the backorder email.... and to add insult to injury, they threw ANOTHER pre-auth (Let's face it with a beit card account its essentially a "Temporary Charge") on my checking account this morning.

What FUN! I ordered another Gray 32 at Amazon this morning on THEIR backorder page. At least they dont CHARGE me for what they don't have. (And I got $100 out of them last time, and I didn't even HAVE a pre-order canceled. They just removed it from my cart while I let it sit for a day)

When will this resolve? If I had to guess I would say mid to late January when stock catches up with whats needed. ASUS! Why did you have to make it so good? WHY? I could have kept my TF101 happily. Sigh!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dbrford:
12/5 on the gray dock. 11/22 on the gray 32 GB prime. Mine never went into backorder nor have been charged for either item as of yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cooper1010:
Call your bank and block the charge.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] johnnyutah22:
Well first I woke up to the backorder email. Spent hour and half on phone with customer support, got to supervisor, she said they had no stock anywhere and that manufacturer pushed back release date. I explained to her the concept of the internet, forums, etc. and to the fact that Amazon has shipped some already with people posting screen caps of shipping details. As I'm talking to her, I get another email from bb saying my backorder has been extended 30 days.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Dnorwood:
Got the email overnight a well...

11/23

32gb

Champagne.

My order status said backorder yesterday, but didn't get the email until 11:30 pm. This is pretty ridiculous.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] joepic:
I've got my GREY dock shipped from Best Buy :p I ordered this on 11/23/11.

1 item(s) shipped via EXPEDITED on 12/19/11 via UPS

Now if Amazon will ONLY ship my 64 GB Grey PRIME today :( I ordered this on 11/22/11.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] liderbug:
Ah, the Never Ending Story - part (L I've lost count)

Mult PreAuth's on CITI CC.

Well so far today my phone time is 2:45 - my poor ear is flat and sore.

Called BB - "Your wait time will be less than 20 min... (stupid music for 20 min) ... You are now being transfered to voice mailbox xxxx - That mailbox is full. Please hang up .... Are you still there? Goodby." [WTF?]

Called BB - "Your wait time... (more music)... 10 min in - "Hi, this is ... " I explained my problem of extra PreAuth's on my card - he was polite but in effect said nothing I can do about it, nothing I can do about it, nothing I can (I hung up). :mad:

Called BB - zero zero zero... zero - got Operator - explained my problem - she put to through to Customer Relation at Corp. - took another 10 min (of music) and Arin answered - I explained again - 3x PreAuth's, now card maxed (food, gas, xmas presents, etc) because of the extra $1048. Took a minute but the light came on and she did a conf call to CITI - I took much longer for the guy at CITI to figure out the problem ... "So I need to remove the PreAuth's from the 2d and the 10th and the 18th?" - "NO, just the 2d and the 10th." - "OK, they have been removed. Is there any...".

Arin, Thank you

PS. Arin said the order is sched. for 12/18-23 <sigh>
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] peare:
Yes. My dock also have been shipped with tracking and all. This is my worst nightmare. My son will bring me the dock and he is going back to the USA in a month, and he will have the prime, I will have the dock.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] swallaces:
:(

Ordered 12/2

TF201 32 gb Champagne

Backorder e-mail

(All of my sadness :(:(:( )
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] newellj79:
Has anybody who ordered the 32gb grey shipped next day received the backorder email? I still have not.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] infinitemethod:
Ordered the grey 32gb on 12/03 and got that email yesterday. Dock says it's being fullfilled.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kls629:
you ordered the "grey" dock on 12/3 also?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] shanevanhulle:
I ordered the 32GB Gray on 11/23, my order status still says "1 item(s) - Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in 1 - 2 days." and no back order email yet.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] newellj79:
Next day shipping by chance?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] UmbraeSoulsbane:
I have not received a single email from Best Buy about my order. I run my own mail server so I know they have not even attempted to email me, so I don't expect anything.

I did get the 32gb Grey though, but am in the backorder funkification.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CheeseMcGee:
Not happy! :mad: Ordered the Champagne 32GB and keyboard on 11/22, as soon as the link went up! Paid via paypal and the money was taken out on 11/26, and I got the email last night that it was backordered!!!! Grrrrrr :mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xXxDieselxXx:
Exactly the same situation. Same pre-order day model and color.

*** Back to check E-mails :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] infinitemethod:
Ordered the dock 12/04 because I couldn't find it until someone posted it on this forum.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kls629:
Weird how best buy is putting priority to certain orders than others. I ordered on 11/25 and my grey tablet states Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in 1 - 2 days and my grey dock states Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in 7 - 14 days
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] bendispo:
I ordered the gray dock alone on 12/2. Just got shipping notice and UPS tracking.

Also have another order for the champagne 32gb and champagne dock. Both of those are now on backorder.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cooper1010:
i knew i picked the wrong color.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
Maybe they have multiple distribution centers that ship to different states that are receiving (or not) inventory at different times?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] techjunkie9194:
Right now I would be excited to just get my dock. I know it would be useless but at least it would be something. It would string the excitement along. The way this this thing has played out the fun is fading quickly.

Good thing this is the end of the year and our business is very busy or I would have too much time on my hands to become overly annoyed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] infinitemethod:
I just called BB and the lady told me that I'll have it this week (ordered 12/04) and that it's shipping right from the manufacturer. I highly doubt that's true, especially since she said I won't get a shipping confirmation because it's coming directly from them. Hahahahaha! Laughter. I'll fight everyone at Best Buy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dbrford:
Just received shipping email on gray 32gb prime from BB. Ordered 11/22.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DarkSi08:
Congrats! I hope some more start rolling in soon. I had no doubt that some of us would be stuck waiting for later shipments, but man... I don't think I've seen more than a couple of confirmed shipments. These things should be shipping out in the thousands today!

---------- Post added at 02:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:14 PM ----------

While I highly doubt it, this is a fairly common, legitimate thing that some companies do. They transfer order info directly to the manufacturer, and the manufacturer drop-ships them to the customer. I'm not sure if Best Buy actually practices this, though.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cjbailey75:
Noticed that people ordering from amazon are receiving them now. I have heard of BB yet kind of alarming.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NoTanFightFan:
I am really disappointed. I know most of you all are as well. This was supposed to be a Christmas gift for a family member. I've planned this being the right gift for a good while and was told over and over by Best Buy that everything was fine and it would ship on the 18th or 19th of December. Now I have nothing to give this person. I spent a lot on this item and I payed through paypal, and the money was immediately deducted. I just can't believe that they won't even give me an answer. I'm just disappointed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kls629:
when did you place your order? what does your order state? color and size?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] NoTanFightFan:
Order Placed on: 12-01-11

Asus-Transformer Prime TF201 Tablet with 32GB Memory-Gray-TF201-B1-GR

I had originally planned on buying an Xoom, because I was led to believe this was the best tablet out there currently, and would hold up for some time. On December 1st, I purchased the Xoom, and received an "Insufficient Stock" message immediately. Then, I tried a few more sites, and well, the same thing. So I began to panic, and then I found previews for the ASUS Transformer Prime. Immediately I was so relieved to have not been able to purchase the Xoom, because the TF201 tablet was setting itself up to be the best Android tablet on the market. I then pre-ordered from Best Buy, and received the estimated date of arrival "18-23." After seeing this tablet, I can't bring myself to purchase any other tablet, because I would know they didn't hold up to this one, and this one cost roughly the same. I know this is the perfect gift this year. Best Buy, by withholding info, and ASUS, by screwing up and lying, has put me in my current situation...... nothing to give this person for Christmas other than a pre-order receipt.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kls629:
im pretty sure if you print out the product sheet from asus and the pre-order receipt. the recipient will be happy enough to know they are getting it rather than getting nothing at all. :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] LSXAndrew:
32GB gray

Ordered on 12/3

Order in process of being fulfilled.

Usually ships in 1 - 2 days.

We'll just see about that...

I'm skeptical.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rockstatus90:
Had that ^^^ status up until this afternoon and then it went back to backordered.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] UmbraeSoulsbane:
Did you update anything on your order?

I ordered my 32/grey on 12/2 and after they upgraded shipping on my order I saw this most of the day, but it reverted to backordered about an hour ago.

Will be kinda mad if your ships, but my earlier pre-order doesn't. Geez, Best Buy still using Commodore 64's to run their inventory system?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] infinitemethod:
Did you get the e-mail about being backordered? Also, I'd be happy as **** if mine changed at all. Good luck, sir!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DarkSi08:
Hah! You think they have that kind of money? They're still on punch cards and tape reels, I'm sure. ;)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] UmbraeSoulsbane:
Yeah, I finally got my tracking slip:

:)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] GCurry:
Hehe, haven't seen one of THOSE in a while.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] arcticreaver:
people, just got my tracking information.

mine is shipped via UPS. currently do not have any information on the package. they are shipping today so i will have some more information after 7pm today - like where they are shipping from.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jwheeler73:
I just received my tracking information from Best Buy. I ordered a 32gb Grey on 11/22. My status is now "Order Status: 1 item(s) shipped via EXPEDITED on 12/19/11 via Tracking Number: UPS ***************."

Here's the text from the email:

"SHIPPING CONFIRMATION

12/19/2011

Order Number: BBY01-************

Dear Jeffrey:

We have processed the item below and it is ready to leave our warehouse. Your method of payment has been charged. If you used a Reward Certificate, it has been applied to your purchase. For more information or questions about your account go to myrewardzone.bestbuy.com. If you ordered items not listed here, you'll receive a separate e-mail with the status of those items.

You can check your order status and tracking number here.

NOTE: If your tracking number or the package tracking results do not appear immediately when you attempt to track your package, the shipping carrier may still be processing the information. Orders packed on the weekend may not be available to track until the next business day.

To find out more about the delivery date and status of your order, call us at 1-888-BEST-BUY (1-888-237-8289).

Thank you.

Best Buy Customer Service

SHIPPING DETAILS	Order date: 11/22/2011

BESTBUY.COM	Order number: BBY01-************

QTY	PRODUCT DESCRIPTION	STATUS	TRACKING NUMBER

1	Asus-Tablet with 32GB Memory-Gray-TF201-B1-GR

SKU: 4038674

Jeffrey XXXXXXX

XXXXXXXX

XXXXXXXX	Shipped on 12/19/2011 via UPS	1Z****************

Questions? Call us at 1-888-BEST BUY (1-888-237-8289). For faster service, please have your order number ready when you call."

So far the tracking link just goes to the UPS site with no tracking information yet...typical right after receiving tracking information. I'll post again after the tracking information is updated. I got 2-day shipping so I guess I should have it by Wednesday.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xXxDieselxXx:
Wow no cigar here... ordered on 11/23 I'm guessing I should get my E-mail some time today after the 11/22 wave is done :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] idontknowu2:
Same here...11/22 order grey 32 and now I have my tracking number
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] LSXAndrew:
I changed my shipping address over the weekend.

No email about backorders...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] SpecialK17:
Ordered just a grey 32gb back on 12/1. Had In Process all the way up til yesterday when I got backorder. Got the email this morning. Haven't seen any shipping updates, at least after they killed my hopes, they haven't tried to trick me into believing again by fooling me with a false shipping status.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mwbarb:
Got my Tracking Number

Ordered the Grey 32GB version on 11/26 and just received an email that it shipped via UPS on 12/19/2011 along with my tracking number. Can't wait to get it now after reading and hearing about all the delays!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cpadrr:
Ordered 32GB Grey on 11/28 and received my ship notice this afternoon. Paid for 1 day shipping so it should be here tomorrow :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cooper1010:
Looks like "grey" is the common denominator. Nuts.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rockstatus90:
How the hell is this possible? I ordered on 11/23 and mine is backordered and yet orders after mine gets shipped.. that's great...thanks BB this makes no sence!!! Man am I hating this...

But I do hope u guys enjoy...after all this mess have fun with yur primes...I mean tht, I only hate BB....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xXxDieselxXx:
UPDATE!!!

I just got the E-mail. It has been shipped via UPS

Ordered on 11/23 32GB Gray
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cjbailey75:
11/23 Gray 32 GB

Order Status: 1 item(s) shipped via STANDARD on 12/19/11 via
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] droidx2.3.3:
This may piss some people off. But it seems like they are picking order numbers out of a hat. I'm sure that's not what's happening but I just got that in my head. "All of best buy head quarters in the back room with a hat full of names."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] cooper1010:
I maintain it's the color. I have yet to see a champagne ship from bb. Amazon only.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] alecblumenfeld:
ahhhh orderd on the 11/23 for the gr 32, now just waiting on the mismatch keyboard dock orderd a couple days later, feel so lucky, im going abroud on the 4th so if got backorderd i would have had to pickup a nook :confused::confused:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mythrid12:
@ any of the people who are getting shipping notices now. Did any of you get a backorder email last night/this morning?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xXxDieselxXx:
Nope, this is the first E-mail I got since the order day.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RussianMenace:
Just got the tracking number. Gray 32 Gb ordered on 11/23 never went on back order. Went from preorder to fulfilling within 1 to 2 days to shipped all within 24 hrs.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jordache16:
I have not received a 'back ordered' email yet either (or any email from BB) so I am still holding out for a shipping notification today or tomorrow.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rockstatus90:
So they just never received their champagne Primes....its just grays being shipped....at least give me the freaking option to switch colours now....
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] DarkSi08:
Don't feel too bad, my gray is still on backorder. I'm hoping that changes by Wednesday. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] calin75:
What?? No equal opportunity??? Why do the dark color ones have preference over the light color ones??? I'm calling the Justice Department. :mad::mad::mad:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rockstatus90:
I concur ^^^...guess ill just have to wait...

I'm so annoyed I'm calm...like the calm before a storm....and my Adonit Jot Pro just showed up....no tablet to write on tho....