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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beavertank:
It's also important to point out, as the reviewer did in the comments afterward, that he had tried turning everything else off both before and after getting a new unit. So the original hardware DID have an issue.

This is what I'm thinking:

There are some units (like the original tester here) that have QC issues relating to wifi. It is NOT a design defect, it is a manufacturing defect. After receiving a new unit he was able to achieve full speeds.

There is also a software issue relating to the apple product he had on his network. That's something that can be addressed in future updates and should affect a small minority of users anyway.

As for the manufacturing defect itself, it would depend on how the insides of this thing are built, but may be as simple as one machine on one line not applying enough force to snap the antenna connectors into place (so they go through, pull every unit made on that line for repair, and lose a big chunk of their stock in that way).

Or it may be that these antennae are printed on the board and some line was producing bad prints, leaving you with no antenna/partial antenna/shorted antenna/something like that.

All of that would require a teardown, and probably a teardown of an affected unit and a normal one, to determine. So we're doing armchair diagnosis from a distance here, which is always iffy at best.

But the exact reason is unimportant - We DO have enough evidence to firmly believe this is a hardware issue, and a manufacturing issue, and that not every manufacturing line was affected meaning there IS still good, working stock to be sold (just less of it than they had anticipated).

There's no saying which retailers will get stock, when they'll get it, or how much they'll get... but this baseless fear of "OMG IPHONE4 DESIGN DEFECT IN MY TRANSFORMER PRIME!" is nuts. There's every reason to think that's not what's going on.

Cancel your pre-order over the uncertainty about release date, or the lack of communication, or any of the other myriad hassles we've all faced but don't cancel it because you're now worried about a design defect that all the evidence points to isn't there.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
QFT. Some of you all should really have a drink, take a deep breath, and check your blood pressure. ASUS didn't murder your first born child, go learn a new trade skill.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
I'm not sure how you can draw that conclusion. From the article:

The Prime's metal construction makes things a bit more finicky. Indeed this is exactly what I saw, where depending on tablet and AP orientation I'd see anywhere between 10Mbps and 36Mbps downstream (average speed tended to be in the 15 - 20Mbps range).

He was able to get up to 36Mbps, after making changes to his setup, and being in specific orientations. This could certainly be due to a design defect, that being a fussy wireless adapter, or the metal back plate.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Arun01:
Update!!! I called Asus & another guy did also.It's confirmed that it will be out on the nineteenth!!!!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CoolWaters:
Why do you use do many exclamation points? It's irritating.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] irriadin:
He's just very excited! All the time!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beavertank:
The wide range of apparent speeds in the final unit might be indicative of a design issue, but I was talking about the fact that with the original unit he couldn't get above 0.5Mbps. That was a manufacturing defect.

Not being able to exceed 10Mbps in actual usage might be indicative of a design defect, but not such a serious one that it would make ASUS halt all shipments I would think. 10Mbps real world transfer, while not fantastic, is not unusable or exactly unexpected in the world of wireless networking (unlike the first review unit's speeds).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
You guys are working yourself up in to a frenzy based on very little information. The units sent to reviewers could be pre-production units, have earlier ROMs on them, or just randomly have issues. The only piece of info that specifically said "Wi-Fi" was the e-mail to customers from a Canadian reseller. I'm not saying it's untrue, but one piece of communication that didn't come directly from Asus and two bad units sent to reviewers doesn't draw a conculusion. And I'd also assume Asus did tons of internal testing and wouldn't set a release date for a design that was going to get rediculed soon after it was released.

That said, poor Wi-Fi is a big deal on a devce that depends on it to function. 10MB in a controlled environment is swell but what about at airports, hotels, and restaurants where the signal isn't that great? My G-Tab pulls 40MB down at home (Comcast Extreme) but I get faster speeds on 3G sometimes on the road when a Wi-Fi signal is ****ty. You shouldn't have to be concerned about where you hold the device and what angle to the sun it's facing to get a decent signal. Hopefully it'll all get worked out between h/w and s/w tweaks and hopefully before it's officially released.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Exactly! All these people jumping to conclusion of wifi issues are starting to seem very noobish. People spreading false reports and titling threads as such to make people think there is some real problem going on. As far as we know, only 2 reviewers out of several dozen or hundred has a wifi issue. They were promptly sent another one and tests were fine. That's what you call an isolated incident. Now everyone ready to jump of a bridge and notify their local news team on a rumor all stemming from one source. Until we hear it from the horses mouth, Asus, then it's not an issue. Not all mass production devices are perfect. There will be errors. Apple goes through several batches of bad displays in addition to the good ones. Just like cars. Some will be recalled for manufacturing issues of certain batches. I say just let these people keep worrying over nothing. Of you so worried, cancel your order disappear..lol don't sit here crying over a rumor. Until you get your device in your hands and find a problem, stop spreading false information.

Someone posted in a thread here that Asus Prime forum seems like a bunch of lil kids. I see his reasoning now as all this rumor crap on dates and wifi issues or this or that ain't better than ipad2 is really stupid n childish. is this the group of people we will have to share the forum with once Prime does drop? I hope not cuz this is only the beginning of the drama...now I understand the Canadian shipments being canceled or delayed, but as far as we know, all American preorders are still a go. At least I know GameStop is and others.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
Actually people are asking questions about things reviewers have posted. That's what people do in forums. YOU seem to be jumping to conclusions such as "isolated incident". Not every reviewer tests Wifi, many don't even know how to do such a test. Maybe the Anandtech reviewer was one of the more technical reviewers who was capable of spotting the problem.

Also, when the AnandTech reviewer was sent a replacement, it was not "fine", as you conclude.

This is in regards to the replacement (that you think is fine):

The Prime's metal construction makes things a bit more finicky. Indeed this is exactly what I saw, where depending on tablet and AP orientation I'd see anywhere between 10Mbps and 36Mbps downstream (average speed tended to be in the 15 - 20Mbps range).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5178/an-update-on-transformer-prime-battery-life-wifi-issues

The only thing we can truthfully say is we won't really know until they are released.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Ok, I see your point and definitely agree with your last statement. We wont know till released. But there is a lot of cherry picking of information going around. Anadtech also said they had interference from apple devices that was found to be major cause of the wifi issues they experienced. But noooo, people assuming wifi issues aren't including that piece of info. It's more believable to be an isolated incident than to be on whole supply. Asus is not new to manufacturing computers and electronics. As with any tech device, there will be issues or bad batches. Just like ipad2 had the backlight bleeding issue or dead pixels. It was only in limited numbers compared to the bigger total amount produced. If people gonna assume, at least be positive about it.. Seems like people finding any and every reason to find something negative about this device. Only 2 reviewers out of several dozen had issue. So you saying engadget and the several others were ignorant to the wifi issue? Who is to say Anadtech wifi tests were the holy Grail of baseline testing? Don't get me wrong, I loved their review but I'm just saying..lol. We should stop all this hype and rumpled going back n forth. The further away the original rumor goes from the source, the more distorted and exaggerated the issue will seem. I sure as he'll hope the one I get doesn't have a wifi issue. I won't be ignorant to the reports I heard but I also won't be assuming the worst. Won't be like as soon ad I get my prime, I'm testing wifi..lol. I'll use it just as I use my iPad. Then if I notice something wrong or out of the ordinary, I'll take up the issue then.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
I also don't recall Anand mentioning what wifi bands and channels he was testing. My own testing on other devices has shown a ton of variability there. Not that it's an excuse as there is obviously a deficiency here, but it's getting blown out of proportion.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] doeboy711:
and if you continue reading in the article he stated:

"I have four other APs covering my house, I turned all of the radios off as a last ditch effort. Boom - 36Mbps on the Prime."

So he had a problem with his network that was interfering with the test. Once he removed them he was able to get the speeds that were claimed.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fraeone:
Everybody talking about "only two" reviewers experiencing the issue are assuming that those who didn't call out the issue are good reviewers.

Most of the reviews and video impressions I've seen have been so shallow and so full of praise that I'm not convinced they didn't just miss the problem.

Most outlets also mentioned having 24 hours or less to write the entire thing which doesn't lead to thorough reviews.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Wordlywisewiz:
Yes there had to be an issue I'm thinking with Atleast half or maybe just one color what color did andand get? And cnet? What about the other reviewers?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Actually Anadtech and cnet had short times spent with device also. They just made sure to try to put it through the paces as much as possible. No one saying their not good reviewers. I think Anadtech and pcmagazine was the best and most thorough. Who is to say the others weren't any good? To many variables could've affect their results, which wasn't taken into account for. Plus this same one you said reported issues, also said it was fixed and performed perfectly once the interference problem was found. :p
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
Oh for christ's sake.

Engadget and Verge both had theirs for a week.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
No, that's not what the AnandTech reviewer said.

1) He had to make adjustments, by turning off wireless access points in his house, to get peak speed. This was not necessary with the TF101.

2) Even when he could reach peak speed, it was not consistent, and not peak speed on average:

"...depending on tablet and AP orientation I'd see anywhere between 10Mbps and 36Mbps downstream (average speed tended to be in the 15 - 20Mbps range)"

3) His final comment:

"One thing is for sure, the Prime is going to be far more finicky than its predecessor when it comes to reaching peak speeds over WiFi."

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5178/an-update-on-transformer-prime-battery-life-wifi-issues
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] beavertank:
I guess I'd wonder what exactly he meant by orientation. Was he turning it like you were using it for a steering wheel? Was he turning it glass side toward the AP and then glass side toward himself?

And then I'd wonder how much this will matter to the average user. Even if your external bandwidth is more than 36mbps (I wish that were the case for me, but not even close...) it's unlikely that you'll be pulling that or more very often. Streaming Netflix HD (the largest, most frequent external bandwidth usage I can think of) the bottom of his range - 10mbps - should be sufficient.

Internally you could push that a bit, if you're streaming HD off a remote machine/NAS, but even then I wouldn't expect most people's HD files to require more than 10-15mbps to stream and even if it's finnicky a few seconds at 36, a few seconds at 20, a longer period at 10, it ought to (I think anyway?) be enough that with a bit of a file buffer it should be fine.

I'm honestly not concerned. My Epic 4g Touch has miserable wifi signal with more than a single wall between it an the AP. If the TP can match that at the very least I'll be perfectly happy.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] fraeone:
So they managed to get arguably the two most important review sites their tablets a few days earlier. Still, most of the reviews I've read or watched on Youtube mentioned the short review window.

Anand said he had a scant 36 hours.

Android Central: "Ed. note: We've had the Transformer Prime here for review for a short time. Not too short to jump it throught most of our usual hoops for a proper review, but some features -- particularly battery life -- will be revisited. Check back for our updated findings."

HotHardware: "It sometimes rolls this way. One of the most hotly anticipated product launches of the year and, you guessed it, the prized package drops on your doorstep for testing and evaluation literally hours before the official launch hits. Have we had nearly enough time with this sleek little minx? Absolutely not."

So on and so on. I'm not trying to say anyone is at fault here, just that Anand who is a notoriously thorough reviewer found the problem, and other outlets that had very short windows as well did not.

Nobody knows how widespread the problem is at this point. It could be very minor, it could be huge. We just don't have enough information.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
All fair points.

We can certainly surmise that some review sources may not have had sufficient time to realize the issue, but even those sites who only had a few days are very well versed in testing mobile devices and i would like to think would have picked up on it had their units been effected.

But hey, who knows.

Well, we all will in a week....right? :D
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] techjunkie9194:
A Taiwan forum is keeping track of issues being reported by Prime owners. Wifi and Bluetooth signal performance issues are being mentioned. The other issues seem to primarily be software related. The site was translated by google but the posts are readable. I don't know the numbers reporting it relative to posters just read the list.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ectoplasmic:
I'm not saying the 15-20Mbps average would be a show stopper. The average broadband speed is probably not that high (mine is 18Mbps down). Streaming Blu-rays could use more, maybe into the 30's. The scenario where it would hurt is if you want to copy something wirelessly from another computer on your LAN, then you could use all the peak speed you can get.

My point was the reviewer did not say it was "perfect", and in fact, demonstrated a performance loss, even after the replacement, in comparison to the TF101. If the issue is reproducible with retail units, then it will be up to the individual to decide if the issue is significant or not.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
As far as Taiwan prime forums goes, it's to be expecting some having issues. There has never been a release of a tech device that some didn't have an issue one way or another. Just like people, no device is perfect. Plus at least it's stated to be a software related issue. Asus has been pumping updates out very frequently addressing issues. I'm optimistic about my new device. They could be an issue and maybe not. Bit I won't sit here, speculating on rumors to the point of convincing myself all devices all faulty. Let's just all, who have preorders, hope this is a small isolated event. I think we can all agree on this.

I'm getting anxious for release just as much as the next man/woman. Ready to retire my iPad and try out this Android tablet experience. Ready for some next generation, as far as tablets goes, gaming. I will definitely be playing OnLive till the tablet games come out. I have OnLive on iPad now, but at the Moment it only let's you view. Tired of watching people having fun playing Metro 2033, Batman Arkham City, home front, Witcher, etc...
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carkev:
I now have an HTC Legend and will shortly be following the guides for rooting etc... so for a start I accessed the bootloader and got:

Legend Put Ship S-ON

H-Boot – 1.00.0000

Microp 0816

Touch Panel SYN07_0103

Radio 7.13.35.05

Oct 13 2010, 15:49:09

but now have some small issues that baffle me ...

1. the phone

must

be unlocked, as even though it is on Vodaphone it accepts my giffgaff sim ! - how so when it shows S-ON

2. what is the last option on bootscreen called 'Simlock' .. I am loathe to select it just now in case I mess something up

3. given my above settings, can anyone advise perhaps the best Gingerbread rom I can put onto this phone

thanks,

Kevin
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farukb:
it seems that you've earned you 100 posts in off-topic forum talking about nothing...otherwise you'd have learned that this should go to Q&A,not here,reported to mods.
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carkev:
:mad: I'm damned if I know what you mean by that ! ... and find 'talking about nothing' very high handed and unhelpful.

(ok, my mistake for being in the wrong section, but my searches did not find an answer)

so report away sunshine, a pat on the back for you .. but such a pity you could not find time to actually help out ?

hopefully you got out of the bed on the right side today ? so ... "have a nice day"

..............................................

whenever I don't know something I ask, and hope others here might consider actually have some constuctive replies.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zwiebelchen89:
Hi,

yesterday I tried to play around with CWM and I selected "Partition SD Card" (or something like this). I think it was CWM 3.XXX (orange menu).

The problem:

I had no SD-Card in my Xoom !

After that I typed "adb reboot" and that was the last time I saw my Xoom working.

No Motorola dual-core boot-up screen, no recognition at my PC (currently running Linux)...

I think I've formatted the bootloader (or how is this Motorola-Bootup-Logo called ?)...

Any thing I could do now ?

JTAG possible ?

Thanks in advance,

zwiebelchen89
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liftman-:
does adb still see it?

might need the factory cable, you can make one, saw prints someware
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zwiebelchen89:
If adb would see it, there wouldn't be a problem :-D

I read that the factory cable is the same like connecting the Xoom with standard USB cable + power cable !?

Could Windows recognize it with adb if Linux doesn't (it worked with Linux before, of cause) ?

If factory cable doesn't work, any other sugestions ?

Would Motorola get it that I accidently killed it or could it become a guarantee repair ?

Any experience with that ?

Thanks in advance,

zwiebelchen89
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liftman-:
I wish I could find a good write up on what you can achieve with thwe cable.

keep us posted.

sorry I offered no real help.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okantomi:
Motorola Factory Cable from Team Black Hat

This is the cable information but it really won't help your situation. http://shop.teamblackhat.info/Factory-style-programming-cable-for-Motorola-FactCable.htm

You seem to have formatted your internal storage partitions and I guess you must have erased the files needed to boot. Maybe Motorola can reflash your system and rebuild your partitions for you. Maybe there's another solution, but unless you could somehow access fastboot or some other recovery in order to flash your stock images, I don't know what else you could do.

I'm really sorry and wish you good luck in finding as solution.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liftman-:
im sure moto has a way to flash the ssd in a dd (like in linux) type fashion, I can't see them throwing away unit because of a small failure.

I'm sure the basic bios is fine just has nothing to read anymore.

I hope someone who knows shares the info. try calling moto and get to a high level tech and see if he will share the secret. :D

please update what you find.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kareeem:
Moved to Q&A.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vilacr:
I just had this same problem. Sent it back to moto for warranty repair. Xoom came back with same tiamat software and now booting. They would not relay exactly what happened.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zwiebelchen89:
Cool, thx, that sounds good !

I'll try it tomorrow I guess.

A few last questions (@vilacr or others):

Did you send it to motorola directly or did you return it to your dealer ?

In which country do you live ?
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vilacr:
I went online to their support sight. Chatted with a rep. on their sight. He sent me and email detailing what we discussed, then had a box shipped via fedex next day. I am in the USA.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muro18:
Hi,I have a problem to use clockworkmod because on my xperia x1 both volume buttons are not working.So I need an alternative button to call clockworkmod recovery to install android rom.Thank you for help.
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JurrePs3:
Maybe you can ask for an edited version, but basicly all versions are based on this so i don't think so.

But the people here are very helpfull, so maybe someone els knows it ;)

Jurre
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muro18:
I hope in this.. thank you
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoofoox:
You could try to slightly push the usb connector down (in the direcory to you back cover). Than you could try if they are working. I have the same issue. When I put the usb connector on the phone down the vol rockers are working. Someone here in the forum pushed some material between the case and the usb connector and now they are working like charm. Try this out!
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muro18:
It is incredible..it works fine :eek:

I got my x1 used and volume keys never worked before

Thank you very much for your help :D
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoofoox:
I'm glad I could help you. I had the same problem, when I first read this solution I just thought how that could fix that problem, the usb connector hasn't anything to do with vol rockers, but it worked ;) at the begining I had to push it very hard to get in bootloader mode. But now I know how to do it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tboooe:
Does anyone have this case?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Edgarhighman:
link / picture?
[Galaxy Tab General] rapha.lira:
Hi, there's a way to send sms through bluetooth in the p1010 ?
[Galaxy Tab General] Skin1980:
please join here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=20195414#post20195414
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chris....:
I was trying to upgrade a friend's phone to CM7, which I did but it wasn't working very well. I booted back into recovery and restored the backup I made before CM7 and it got stuck at the Vibrant screen. I flashed PDA_T959UVKB5.tar via Odin and now it only boots into recovery. Download mode still works, not getting any "Can't mount X" errors. Anyone know of a fix?

Solved, used AIO Vibrant toolbox to flash back to stock