yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
if you read any of the countless threads about which radio is best, you will see that there is no rhyme or reason, no pattern to what works where and for whom on what network.

Best thing you can do is download a few and try them. 2.10.50, 2.11.50 and 2.15.50 seemed to get the most attention if i remember correctly, but 2.07.50 and above (so long as its ..50..) will all work with magldr android, 576 trick or whatever type of rom you use.

I remember the only thing that was marginally agreed on was that there was a feeling that (at least under winmo) 2.15.50's new power saving actually caused signal drop.

Summary - don't bother pre-analysing, all the radios do the same thing, you wont gain/lose any function by switching radio. try a few and find which one feels right for you.
[HD2 General] Curiousn00b:
I can flash a radio while nand android is installed by going to the screen with red, green, and white. Or something..... I forgot. :/
[HD2 General] samsamuel:
Correct, into bootloader, connect USB, flash radio, reboot.
[HD2 General] kylew1212:
Yes hold volume down and the power button.
[About XDA developers] lexyin:
Do GT5830 have the Official CM7？not the beta~~？？？

OR the miUI???:confused:
[HTC Sensation] yposk8er58:
is there a way around it for the sensation??
[HTC Sensation] exb0:
If it's throttled by your service provider, I don't think so.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Pardon me,if there are any mistakes,technical or grammatical,if i have missed anything.

Thanx to Wikipedia,PujitJuneja and Google :D

P.S. I didn't copy-paste it from anywhere,wrote it all down.So,a click on the thanks button will be greatly appreciated

Cheers :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] -SGA-:
;) I think this was a good piece to explain risks and rewards of OCing.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] domnic79:
All d noobies should take a look at this.

Sent from Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 using Grif's Cyanogenmod & allinone ram script.

Dont jus say thanks, use d 'THANKS' button. [XDA RULE]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
Empty Reply?

Anyways, this is an awesome thread for people who don't know a lot about Overclocking
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Whats that supposed to be,empty post?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Couldnt have done it without you :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Cryss:
I better get a new and stronger phone instead doing this !

Anyway you're phone is gonna "howl" some day after OC, and if you don't have money to buy another one, you've better keep it at 800Hz, stock ... my opinion :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
Hehe, always happy to help ;) (Well only for some people :P)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] devilsking:
Thank for ur info :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Anytime :p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Well done :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] thedisturbedone:
Great work!

And to add to this maybe..

The battery will get effed up pretty soon coz of the rapid discharging and the more than usual number of charge cycles and also the heat :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] valakas:
Im used to OC almost all the PC's i had, and my SGA wouldnt be the exception to that rule. But sadly i didnt notice any huge improve in the performance or in the lags i had in some huge games.

OC is a good way of wasting battery life and perhaps burn your phone. i wouldnt advise anybody to do it because its just not worthy.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Thanx for the suggestion guyz...Will add them
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] PafcioPjay:
Without cooler (radiator) OC on SGA its a danger experiment-be care full. Sorry for my weak English.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] GT5830:
Thanks for the useful info here .... :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Its already written-heating effect
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
This is really epic bro. I knew OCing was bad but this just cleared it up even more. Great post. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] prateek_gemini:
is increasing min cpu frequency recomended ?? mine is 122mhz.....

and also if once increased ... thn i flash new rom .... will it become default again ??
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Thanks man.. :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Increading minimum frequency may help you get better perfomance but it might reduce battery at a higher rate

If you wipe all your data when you are flashing that rom,yes it will go back to default that is,122MHz
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
I recieved really good feedbacks on both of my tutorials.If anyone has any doubts,be sure to pm me and I will make a tut about it if i have the knowledge about it. :D

So,keep your comments coming

I am personally against overclocking too. :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] doctorace92:
Heat really isn't an issue with the processor as much as it is the battery.

The processor can handle in temperatures of 75 C under

normal operation and 105 C under extreme usage for a

short period. The motherboard and/ or components on the motherboard can start to fail around 70-75 C The battery has a failure rating of 60 C .

Before your electronics cook, your battery will have

died off.

It was fun to overclock my old laptop PC intel processor a long time back in those days of low processor power.And the PC life span was not affected.

The ARM processor can handle the above temperatures and also the overheated battery's failsafe mechanism will shut down the phone before any higher temperature is reached.So your processor will not be affected.Only the battery will which may damage your phone.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] ExMM:
Sorry to be the black ship of the group, even thus I am not an ACE owner, but I wanted to share my opinion.

I have been OC's my HTC HERO since I bought it (2009), it's an old ARMv6 525mhz, which I pushed to 710mhz/MAX.

I NEVER had any issue for my OC's, I obviously can say that it becames maybe slightly warmer than the stock clock but nothing near hot.

Thanks to this, my Hero is running all the lastest rom with no lag for this two years, and so the other people in the Hero forum (basically 90% of the people OC's).

I am agree with the opener that OC's could be dangerous and it might decrease the lifespan of your device, but I also think it depends on the hardware, and I am not agree when I just read is "not" useful, because it DOES give a huge boost to your device.

Besides you can undervolting your CPU when your smartphone is in Idle (my MIN is 19 mhz), so the heat won't be generated anymore, you will save battery life, and the paradox... you will extend the life cicle of your CPU.

Also keep in mind that developers are improving the OC's working on new governors and kernels all the time.

There are risks also when we flash a rom or a new radio version, but that doesn't mean they are not useful. We flash them because we want to enhance our devices.

Just my 2 cents.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Thanks for the suggestion,guys.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Well , since you're that awesomely smart I'm sure you can make such modules :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] devilsking:
+1 for Matt :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
+1

I saw his posts the other day,calling xda users thieves and all
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
*Standing Ovation*
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] doctorace92:
I will never share my work in xda..especially with guys like you all....gave 1 star to this thread.

What I have done in my phone is beyond your imagination.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jusada:
Oh no! Oh no! What will we do! . . . Well if you not sharing your work could you do the same with your flawed opinions?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
Then why are you still here on XDA? These forums are all about sharing and coming up with new things. If you want to be greedy, selfish and degrade everyone's hard work on here, I believe you should leave.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
Someone's pants are metaphorically on fire
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] RomsWell:
Food for thought. Most phones are designed with OS growth in mind. That said your phone is capable of higher clock speeds right out of the box. You can safely oc most any device to some degree.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] music.soul:
Well Well Well!! Someone has a LONG TONGUE but DOES NOT HAVE ANY SENSE OF HIS SENSES WHICH CAN BE SENSIBLY BROKEN INTO SENSELESS STUFF SENSIBLY
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
How can it be beyond my imagination ?

Besides , you miser , I don't probably care if you do this or that to your phone .

Leave and don't come back .
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Agreed with Kidney Poker (nice name !)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Fulaeetoy:
Nice guide. I might try this on my sis phone. hehe.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Thanx Fulaeetoy but DoctorAce92 thinks the other way.He PMed me yesterday telling me that this the worst guide ever and that i dont know anything about Overclocking.He also told me not to mess with him
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
I took the trouble to put all this thing together and this what i get.Thank you Doctorace92.

I know its bad to publicize pms.But i had no choice with this one,If users are so rude?

I think it helped many of you people but some people are so rude :(

Its not that i hate to accept my mistakes or anything.See my 2nd post.I have already apologized if i missed anything,thanked everybody who helped me make this guide.But still,some people are so rude
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
Don't worry about that guy, he's probably a jobless no life guy who has read a book about computers in the 5th grade and now considers himself the master of the universe (That one's taken).

He vents his anger for his shrinked manhood through his inflated ego.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] domnic79:
+1 for pujit.

I really dont kno y ppl like to poke their nose in sumone else's buisness. If he thinks he is better den everyone, den y didnt he do sumthin for ace till nw? Instead of critisizing & bluffing around, it could use that time to make a rom or an undervolting kernel ATLEAST(coz he says he knows everything). :p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Fulaeetoy:
Just ignore the guy. Don't stoop to his level.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
I have friends who can beat him up LOL
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
LOLs..Thanks guys :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] music.soul:
Dunn Get Emotional re ... Chill for now ... :P as i said he is just a piece of ****
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] doctorace92:
Blijf bij het onderwerp.

Overclocking refers to increasing the speed of any

component beyond that specified by its manufacturer.

The word "clock" comes from the use of a "clock

crystal", an oscillator that sets a rhythm from which all

higher frequencies are derived for the component. While motherboards could

contain several oscillators for specific devices, an

additional integrated circuit was required to allow a

wider range of speeds for a wider variety of interfaces.

Known as the clock generator, this component

generates clock signals at multiples and fractions of

clock crystal oscillation.

RISKS

The primary risks of overclocking are instability and a

possible loss of data, which can be overcome through

extensive testing to verify the highest stable speed.

The most significant of secondary risks is hardware

damage. Higher overclock settings translate directly

into increased risk of component damage, but risk

assessment is not as straightforward as many non-

overclockers assume. Damage contributors, from least

to greatest, are as follows:

Speed - Integrated circuits have a finite lifespan: each

operation deteriorates the circuit an infinitesimal

amount, so that doubling the number of cycles per

second could cut the circuit's life in half. This alone is

not usually enough to "break " a component before it

becomes outdated, but speed also contributes to heat.

Heat - Circuits deteriorate more quickly as

temperatures rise. Heat is also an enemy of stability, so

that low temperatures must be maintained to reach a

component's highest stable speed.

Voltage - Increased voltage allows for greater signal

strength, which can have a tremendous effect on how

far a component can be pushed. But increased voltage

also increases circuit deterioration, and is the leading

cause of early failure. Increased voltage also increases

heat, requiring additional cooling improvements.

Circuit deterioration is caused by a phenomenon called

electromigration.

Electromigration takes place on the actual silicon chip

of your CPU, in areas that operate at a very high

temperature, and can cause permanent damage to the

chip. Before you start to panic, you should first realize

a few things. CPUs are designed to run at

temperatures between -25 and 80 degrees Celsius. To

give you an idea, 80 degrees Celsius is a temperature

that nobody is able to touch for longer than 1/10

second. I have never come across a CPU at this

temperature. There are plenty of ways to keep the CPU

case at less than 50 degrees Celsius, which increases

the probability of keeping the chip inside at less than

80 degrees. Besides your battery's failsafe mechanism will shut down at less than 60 degrees.Also, electromigration does not

immediately damage your chip. It is a slow process,

which more or less shortens the life span of a CPU

running at a very high temperature. A normal CPU is

meant to live for about five to ten years. However, in five years nobody is going to be using a CPU with today' s

technology. I won't even use my galaxy ace anymore in 6

months.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
Pretty nice work copying from here and here
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] doctorace92:
In overclocking a handheld unit there is

almost no risk in physically damaging the unit. The

extra power consumption doesn't come close to the

power consumption of things like the screen, backlight,

memory chips, etc. In regards to the heat, it is

negligible as there is much more heat generated from

the power circuits for things such as charging and

backlighting than anything else. The worst thing that

can happen is that you will have to hard reset your

unit and lose all your data and programs. If you are

playing with overclocking just make sure you have

good backups.

---------- Post added at 10:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 PM ----------

Q.A common question by many users.Why is my device can only be overclocked to 844 Mhz while his to 921 Mhz.!

Ans. When a manufacturer cuts usable chips from a silicon wafer,known as the yield, it tests and validates those chips at certain frequencies.Let us take the example of a 600 Mhz processor. Different chips are tested for max yields at 600,630,660 etc.Obviously each chip will have its own max yield but they are standardised at 600 Mhz.Also if a certain processor fails to achieve 800 MHz during a test, it is often called back in the testing bin and retested at 600MHz. If it works

at that frequency, it is labeled a 600MHz processor,

and released for sale, and some other chips working at 800 Mhz are also labelled 600 Mhz for safety.

This doesn't happen very often, but there are 600MHz

processors in handhelds that didn't work at higher frequencies

and will cause significant problems if the user

attempts to increase the clock speed. Some 600 Mhz users can overclock to 750 Mhz and others don't. So every chip has different yields and the overclocking procedure will differ accordingly.

Our galaxy ace has 800 Mhz processor but each processor has different yields which has been standardised to 800 Mhz. So everyone's overclocking potential is different. Some can overclock to 825 Mhz while others above 900 Mhz.

---------- Post added at 11:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:46 PM ----------

I am employed .Unemployment may be a problem in your part of the world(100 million unemployed) not in ours which is lowest in Eurozone.

Q. How much to overclock?

And. Overclock step by step to find the best frequency.

It depends upon your processor and hence your luck.

Apps for overclocking:

Setcpu -

In addition to setting frequencies, you can make profiles for different frequencies. You can set the Max temperature also.

No frills-Choose schedulers like noop and deadline in addition to setting frequencies.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] :
He is making a good point here... I have found a lot literature supporting DoctorAce92's posts in my previous reading. As much as he seems unpopular on this particular forum, I must point out that he is at least correct.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] angeleo02:
Why dont he make his own thread then? Rather than trashing other peoples thread?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] domnic79:
Oh look... its d "1Ghz Ace guy". :p

Sent from Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 using Grif's Cyanogenmod & allinone ram script.

Dont jus say thanks, use d 'THANKS' button. [XDA RULE]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Yes , it's nice to read , BUT WE'RE ****ING TRYING TO MAKE IT NOOB-FRIENDLY HERE .
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Probably 'cause he's an adult while I'm a ****ing teenager
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] :
Perhaps he should have, it's not for me to say... There doesn't seem to be much regard for web etiquette around XDA to start.

I don't see what anyone has to gain by trying to make others feel bad. I for one thanked both Prawesome for the effort he put into starting the thread, and DoctorAce92 for his contribution. But with people from all around the world together in this small community, it is going to happen that people don't get along...

Just my opinion.

---------- Post added at 10:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:00 PM ----------

lol :) this made me laugh!

---------- Post added at 10:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:02 PM ----------

BTW, how many languages can you people speak? I mean, how do you all know English...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SiNg0d:
I have been OCing my phone upto 902Mhz just when I want to play games and they seem to lag. I wouldn't recommend a full time OC because as mentioned by others, an incorrect value with an incorrect governer for a long period of time could possibly fry your phone. A little here and there is all I recommend. ;)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] prateek_gemini:
Guys ... does increasing min cpu frequency also has same dangers/disadvantages like heating etc ?? ( m toking about 122---->245 Mhz)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SiNg0d:
I guess the fact that you are operating within the stable frequency set of the chip, the risks connected with oc'ing over 800MHz like overheating and all don't apply. But then increasing the minimum frequency could possibly affect your battery life because that's the base frequency the phone returns to in the idle state.

Also if you keep your min frequency too high, I would say that you could have a problem with the phone heating up, it being kept running at a particularly high frequency all the time.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] prateek_gemini:
so u r saying battery life may decrease and performance may increase ???

coz i see many of users here have it at 245 Mhz and i was also recommended by a friend to do so .....
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
That might be true, but stupid arrogant ****wits like you are only in the Eurozone, who think that people don't know that they stole their references from google's search results, if you wanna explain, just do it properly, don't copy **** here and say that it's your knowledge.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
*Standing Ovation*
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] doctorace92:
Lol....as if you knew everything from birth. Knowledge comes from books,internet and everywhere. I derive my knowledge from them. I used Google to show important information to people. You cannot even use google to make a good guide. That shows your intelligence. You mean to say you did not read any books or went to any school to learn, than how are you writing in English here.. .lol...You also copied knowledge from books.. .lol. You copied knowledge from xda to make your phone better. Does that mean you stole knowledge from xda ?

I just gave some logical information . You have no counter explanation to that. That's why you abuse me. With your intelligence that's the most you can do. You abuse me and Europeans in general in a racial tinge. I can reply to that. But I will not because I am not uncivilized and ignorant like you and your part of the world.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jusada:
Wow! You found the cut and the paste button, AND found wikipedia as well! cleaver fish! Have a biscut! I dont think anyone questions the info you relaying, just the manner and the arrogance you do it with. You clearly don't understand yourself the things you paste from other websites. Your trying to big yourself up and then wondering why people get anoyed at you.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] :
Oh come on guys, if it came down to India vs The Netherlands we all know who would win! Canada, :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] jusada:
Oh and so you cant claim that I'm being racial, I'm europian too and I don't like you!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] pujitjuneja:
A- I did not make the guide

B- I did not tear a page from the book and upload the screenshot for you. Although you did do that. Even if i learn from the most basic resources as wikipedia, i don't copy their language to tell people something.

C-I have nothing against europeans, i have a big grudge againts idiots though.

If you think your racial slurs will affect me, get a firmware upgrade for your brain, it's from the 80s.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] nims11:
Lol not thought you tell this kind of thing as country not matter

Btw half of Canadian are Indian so....... XD jk
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] :
lol! that is so true! Awesome...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Yes , we learn from XDA .

But at least we contribute back to the forums , not like you .

And I am racist towards a race called "******s" .
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] :
I think that's called Homophobia...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] nims11:
That's good point

Most of us learn from xda and also contribution as much as possible

Not like him who not want to contribute his work but want to contribute annoying opinions

so contribution either both or nothing

as if you share your work what ever you know I don't know what but after sharing that probably you will not have spare time to abuse others work no matter how small or wrong or half done it is
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] Prawesome:
Nicely said,jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
I only try to insult when I'm outside or not at work :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] domnic79:
Nobody is born genius my friend. One becums genius with time & knowledge. Knowledge is for sharing, not keeping. To tell u a fact, even i ws a noob sum time back. Dint knew wat android was. I ws new to flashing, rooting, zip files, roms etc...etc... bt i learned. I would say i learned 90% on xda & rest 10% with google. Nw whenever anyone asks a question in d forum, i reply if i kno d answer. Thats what sharing knowledge is. Not like you who says 'i wont share my work in here, or u dont kno what i kno'. C'mon man, if ur so ****in genius y dont u cum up with sumthin instead of discriminating people. If u want respect, learn to earn it.

Sent from Galaxy Ace GT-S5830 using Grif's Cyanogenmod & allinone ram script.

Dont jus say thanks, use d 'THANKS' button. [XDA RULE]