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[Samsung Infuse 4G] woooeric:
I have never used more then 2 gig a month since I started with att on various Iphones. Switched to an Infuse and I went over twice the first month and once already this month. wtf? I have been switching my data completely off when connected to wifi lately which is obviously helping but I just found it it odd I jumped so highly in usage just by switching phones. Initially maybe a bit more since I was playing with a new toy but its not like my iphone was just a paper weight.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
And you missed one of his posts.

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] ksprelude01:
I'm ok with At&t throttling my service...but not to the extent that they have. I got the message last week (half way though my month) at 5gb (Pandora, netflix, downloading roms, bla bla bla) and they throttled me to 2G speeds(from 5-8mbs to .150mbs)...So basically my data plan is useless till the 24th. Websites time out, email doesn't get received, Google maps is pointless to use(this is what really pisses me off!), Pandora loads after over a min of buffering....

So In all I'm not complaining that I am being throttled just how much im being throttled is a little excessive! I could live on 1-2mbs for the rest of my billing cycle, at least I would have a some what usable data connection! I just hope they rethink the speed they throttle everyone too!

That's my rant!....
[Samsung Infuse 4G] rhcp4ever:
Um, not really?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jwl12345:
Can't get signal worth using on the floor above my router right above it...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] KevinAlbrecht:
Then I would check yer router..
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
And get wifi analyzer to check for more available channels.

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] jwl12345:
Tried 3 different routers so far. I think it's not the router.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] AJerman:
No, hell no. I'm paying for unlimited, this whole thing is BS. People need to stop rolling over and saying oh well, regardless of how much they throttle you. Cell carriers in the US are absolutely terrible compared to around the world. Prices are insane, and even that's not good enough for them, they have to find ways to screw us over even more. If I ever get throttled to EDGE speed, I'll be getting VERY loud. I'm still in contract so I'll have THEM breaking my contract because they are tired of hearing me call the support line and ***** them out every single day. This is absolutely unacceptable and I'll be damned if I'll continue to be a customer with that kind of BS going on. I'm at about 3 GB so far this month, so we'll see.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bugilt:
I can't tell that they are restricting my speeds. I got 8mbps down the other day. Streaming video is going just as fast. I have nothing to complain about.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jwl12345:
My speeds have gotten faster after that text. That might be the new modems though...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] rhcp4ever:
In this case I think we have to turn to the walls and floors. Why do you line them with lead?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] mrsexypants:
damn right, when i switched from iPhone to my Fusion the rep tried to tell me i had to switch to 4GB data plan because unlimited was only for iPhone here is how the convo went down

Rep - AT&T Rep

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
Um no a limit is the limit no matter what.... Arguing semantics is fewtile. If AT&T is gonna advertise all these seriously data intensive apps, actually expect us not to use them? Straight from at&t tech support managers lips, your usage is based off of your residence & your cell number!!!! Not from where you actually are using the phone...... Not to mention I'm in area that if I go over 5 gigs which is a gig over your tiered plans, I get capped. I don't have the money to pay for cable internet, and I don't live in an area where I am always subjected to the wifi... My phone is my internet it sucks when my signal is not competent enough to connect to the internet that is paying for ( ina 3g area that's not competent you use more data to get actual speeds) something that I am not receiving, which is an unlimited internet experience!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
Dude. You're the one failing at semantic arguments if you really think that unlimited means unlimited speed, unlimited access, and unlimited controls.

Sell your phone now while there's still a market for it because you'll never be satisfied with reality.

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
Okay let's forget the arguing what Unlimited means and how they cap it... Now I thought I seen something before you can do to "Keep from being throttled" but that was a different type of Throttling I believe... It just slowly sped up and you could fix that by editing some files and recompiling them for your specific ROM / Phone..

AT&T is making you connect to Edge once they deem you are using too much data which changes and some people that hit 2Gigs that are in the top 5% of their users at that time will be slowed then anyone who goes over them at 3Gigz will be slowed etc... it's just a % that always changes from my understandings working there.

With that said, when you are being throttled are you connected to Edge? If so we should be able to make it possible to connect to 3G again by forcing your phone to do so and not listening to AT&T if it's connected to 3G and being throttled we should be able to edit that file and make it not throttled.

--This should be fine considering it's not STEALING service, it's editing a file that is on your phone you own or changing a setting allowing you to continue to use the DATA that you are paying for if its possible--

If this isn't doable then everyone with Unlimited so do this together till AT&T agrees to fix it, if we all used streaming APPS or downloaded huge files to use a lot of internet they can't throttle us all ( Because it's not going to be the top 5% of users with Unlimited Data doing it ) they can't cap all the users with it if more then 5% are using the same amount of DATA. Which either case they it should be positive results..
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Longcat14:
Your failing.

It states unlimited, and unlimited means without any limits, INCLUDING speed limits.

I WANT them to throttle me on LTE, so I can KILL their HSPA+ network, since they can't throttle me again once I've been throttled.

Like hell I'm letting them get away with this.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Strom2:
I'm actually pretty pissed about this. I pay $30/mo for unlimited, which, theoretically, should get me at least 2.4GB from AT&T without any pissing and moaning (Calculation is 2GB / $25 * $30 = 2.4GB). Last month, I used 2.1 GB and received a text message warning me about excessive usage.

THIS month, I received a text at about 1.4 GB (I am now at 1.6 GB and at day 27 in my 30-day cycle).

It pisses me off, because it's pretty obvious that all they're trying to do is transition people off the Unlimited Data plans and limit data speeds, no matter how much data is used...

I have definitely noticed that my data speeds have dropped as well, and have confirmed this with testing. Used to be able to get 6 Mb/s, now down to about 2-3.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] hardslog:
Wow, only $30 a month for "unlimited"? With some carriers up in the great white north we are lucky if we can get 1gig for $30 a month. I'm paying $25 for 500mb. I use my wifi all the time though so I only use about 20 megs a month :P
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Strom2:
I understand that other places pay more. My point is that I'm paying more than the people who get 2GB for $25 here, and actually getting less...

Oh, and the reason I use so much data is not streaming video or something (although I do use Netflix, but on WiFi). It's because I send/receive about 1500-2000 emails a month (with large pdf and document attachments) and remote into my computer from my phone from places with no WiFi. It's the entire reason I got a smartphone with a large screen and a large data plan.

I may go to the 2GB for $25 as it will end up saving me money in the long run and I won't get reduced data speeds. That is exactly what AT&T wants me to do, though.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
Learn to read your contract. I'm sure that they have a version in whatever language you Speak.

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
45 dollars from unlimited, which is more than a 4 gig tier plan, I just did a speed test in orlando florida with 5 bars of HSPA+, and my speed low and behold was see photo

!!!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
And now the best part Im at 4.1 gigs and can barely load any internet app without timeout!!!!!!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] mariusvt:
Either you guys live in the middle of nowhere that easily puts you in the top 5% or you are just unlucky.

I routinely use 4-6gb a month streaming music at work 5 days a week, 6-8 hours a day. Not to mention web browsing, gchat, email, etc. I've never gotten an email or throttled.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
Yeah I just change my address cuz I wanna see what they do with the new address!!!!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] diablo009:
I don't think address helps. It think it depends more on the type of account you have (business/non business), history, usage pattern, and location (cell towers).
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
Before they throttled me I was in 3 mb dl range, now Im 0.07kbs thats frackin ****e!!!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
According to tech support and the Special AT&T dept created to help with the multitude of unhappy customers, "in which u even hear that they dont give a **** anyways in their tone" Its based ur market and where u live. I live outside the Orlando FL market which is not over burdened at all but i live in between Orlando and Clermont FL markets!!! And on a network thats meant to handle 14mbs where I normally get 6 - 7mbs isnt bad but to be throttled to 0.07kbs is bullshot!!!! Maybe to 3 or 2 but not what they did to me!!! When im at home I cant even connect anymore
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Strom2:
Being smack in the middle of Southern California, I find it hard to believe that anything over EXACTLY 2GB puts me in the top 5%. One other incredibly crappy thing - I have a 3G microcell, and any data sent over that (using my paid for internet connection) counts towards my data total...not cool.

---------- Post added at 07:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:53 PM ----------

Oh, and they throttle my 3G microcell connection as well...really nice.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] diablo009:
oops. wrong thread. sorry.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
Refer to my newest post to see what ur statement actually means bro they dont care now if u go over 4gigs now ur gonna get throttled and all the say well if u dont like it u can switch to a tiered plan!!! And they base it on ur home location...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
All Im doin is usin the Android Sirius /XM radio app, Im a Motor Coach Operator so I listen while im drivin to keep from bein bored. And I got capped at 4.1 gigs, not 10gigs with speed of 0.07kps which is BS
[Samsung Infuse 4G] albee320:
I got the text this morning at ~2146mb.....my billing cycle starts on the 3rd of each month...so i will be throttled to about 100kb for the next two weeks

Last month i got a text on the 29th after i had used ~3.5gb of data but it did not indicate that i would experience throttled speeds

Why the difference btw months and is there anyway to change your home location? As stated above, i hardly believe just over 2gb is in the top 5% in the LA area. Whyy must they lie??
[Samsung Infuse 4G] bugilt:
Just did a speed test and checked my data usage. I don't see much difference after they throttled me.

http://www.speedtest.net/android/116850065.png

Next Bill Cycle: 12/24/2011

Data (MB): 21196.2 of Unlimited

Messaging: 636 of Unlimited

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] bugilt:
They just started throttling recently.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] groove6969:
It kinda funny that everyone with unlimited data dont realize that if u use from 2 gb to 50 gb affects everone on the network no matter if it is AT&T or Verizon or any other carrrier. It cause a lot of drop calls, message delay, and others to have slow speeds when they want to use it. Many can brag doing 50 gb but i have seem worse being from 100 - 520 gb. Now that is rediculous. It is almost trying to shove the hoover dam water to empty using a straw when everyone connect with high amout of data and people trying to make calls or even txt. That is why every carrier trys to meet the demand for better coverage, more towers and able use high data. I am one of the users that have unlimited data but dont go to the extreme on my usage or even post what the highest usage and brag about it.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] N0ctrnl:
Unlimited should be unlimited. That's all there is to it. Don't say it's unlimited 4G and then start smacking people around when they treat it as such. I'm sorry, but I don't care how my data usage affects anybody else on the network. I don't believe it's a social issue at all.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
Actually the DATA part of the system is completely different.. DATA usage only affects DATA not voice calls. That's why when you get a voice outage you can still access the internet and vise versa
[Samsung Infuse 4G] carloz800:
Ehh I received the text from at&t about being the top 5% of users or something, checked my account and only used 1,700mb wtf!? -_-
[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
That's messed up it shouldn't be that low... even though they shouldn't do it at all that is a low usage and you should call and complain they will transfer you to another special dept for it and maybe you can get it removed...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
Yeah I agree with 50 gigs to 520, not 4.1 gigs and throttle u to 0.07kps. Thats a bullying technique and it bad customer service and breach of terms in any language....
[Samsung Infuse 4G] andrawer:
This couldn't be further from the truth.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Clark Joseph Kent:
Agree...andrawer, was thinking when I read that, not to criticize but I was thinking "do what?!"
[Samsung Infuse 4G] devmasterjpc:
Maybe they should use the millions of dollars they get *&*&ing people over on sms charges to upgrade their networks more often so they can actually handle the services that they sell. $.40 to receive and reply to a message is less than 1kb of traffic (even if it's a spam message that you reply "stop" to). That's BS!

While I personally think 20GB of data is excessive I have to take an issue with a company that *sells* you an "unlimited" service (knowing that smartphones consume larger data amounts) and then chokes you if you use it as such. They try to cry foul with whatever statements they make but then turn around and nationally market the "latest and greatest" devices and all the cool streaming media services it is capable of using, yada yada. The cherry on the cake though is listening to them try to protect the racket they have in the SMS market. Like it's somehow acceptable to sell 2GB of data for $10-$15 or whatever it is (I don't pay any attn, I kept my ultd plan :-) ) but then try to justify why if that data were composed of SMS messages that same amount would cost you ~$1500.00.

Just my $.02
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jayson94538:
Google voice is how I solved the SMS being overpriced issue ;D

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
Unlimited Data means Unlimited, any type of strain limits your ability to the internet and makes you worry. Why purchase or let AT&T throttle us? All this does is make you worried to use apps because you might use too much internet... it is wrong! I stream Netflix all the time and if I get throttled and they don't fix it I'm done as a customer. I spend $250 a month for 5 lines for only two with internet "Unlimited" which only one is being used and between 3 - 15 GB's a month. Now if they slow me down where Netflix don't work I will stream radio 24/7 on both unlimited plans till I can find another provider ..

Unlimited with limits is not what I signed up for and never planned on changing even with some months under 400 MB of usage...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
Yeah because being a jackass will put them in their place!

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] jayson94538:
Well they didn't intend on having so many people with unlimited data, which is why they don't have that plan anymore. But whatevs lol I still have my unlimited and haven't been throttled. I don't use tons of data.

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
Look if everyone would actually get together then we could get this resolved, look at Verizon they were going to charge $2 for payment fees and turned around after customers complained. Yes if everyone decided to stream radio 24/7 till they stopped throttling they would more then likely notice that customers are angry about it and its not abuse when its your internet connection, its your "unlimited data" they are being an ass to us saying you better watch your usage when we got these places to not worry about usage.

Just because you don't use 10 GB a month like some people don't make it right for you to complain that others are, we don't say hey look at him he talks to much and to many calls at once can drop calls on any network. No they have unlimited calling and is by no means limited.

Thank you...

I use a good bit of data some months I haven't been throttled yet either and hope I wont ever be but I see people call in using less then 2 GB and being throttled...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
No. If everyone jumped off a bridge I wouldn't join you. All you and the other bridge jumpers would be doing is losing your unlimited plans.

For god's sake drop the semantic "it said unlimited so I can do whatever I want regardless of the contract " nonsense. If you don't want to read your contract then you can always move to another carrier.

Your last post about throwing a childlike fit and burning through data just to spite The Man was just wacky. The only persons you would be hurting are data users in your area. Not ATT.

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] secretasianman:
Got a little twist to this

The most data I've ever used was in the 850MB range on the 2GB plan. I had to TRY to use a lot to hit that number as I don't stream Internet radio or video and my phone connects to my wifi network when I get home.

While I was on the 2GB plan, I called AT&T Mobility and asked them to place a block on any further data usage after 2GB. I didn't want to be charged another $10 for 1GB. The rep told me they don't have a means to do that.

So for those of us who want to use our allotted 2GB per month, we run the risk of being charged another $10 (likely towards the end of the month) for 1GB we may never substantially use. I believe the whole automatic charging of $10 is another way to discourage high data usage.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] AJerman:
If Google Voice supported MMS, I'd do the same. I'm not willing to give up MMS though.

That's why the data usage monitoring on ICS will be nice.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] nstong:
OOo ICS does that? Should be interesting when phones start telling people they used a different amount of data than ATT says.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] jayson94538:
MIUI does it also. I have it on.

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] secretasianman:
There's already an app for that.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] mv1luv:
Ive been racking up 15gb+ a month.. Reason why is becuase i stream slacker radio while i work.. And.on Break i watch netflix.. My.data has.been throttled to less than 300kbs. According to.speedtest app.. Sucks.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
Now can you stream anything?... throttling is retarded there's plently of users on unlimited that use less then 200 MB that make up for usage...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tjy8tim:
i'm only at 2.055gb and they say i'm at top 5% and throttled me already....=(

so apparently the people in my "market" doesn't use a lot of data, is there a way to change my "market"? how is my "market" determined?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] mariusvt:
Your market is determined by where you live, so to change markets you need to move to another city
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tjy8tim:
how big is a "market"? would berkeley,CA be in the same market as san jose, CA? And what about those people that moves between the two cities.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] mannypants:
Unlimited should be without limits... thats all im saying.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] diablo009:
Right. It was too, that is, until some smart people started abusing it, and used it to replace home internet, stream hd movies, and so on.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
I'm at 4.48 GB and still going no alerts no nothing. I'm guessing its the top 5% that don't pay $200+ a month.. I don't know though..

& I know someone is going to say stop abusing it, its my Unlimited internet and ill use it how I please. I watch Movies due to lack of having my TV setup in process of moving, but I also want to see if they slow me down and if its Edge or 3G I'm still connected too depending on which you can work around more then likely.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Keltisch WerWolf:
Okay I agree but throttle the people causing the problem not the people that are not causing the problem, throttling the people with very little use in bandwith is just ridiculous..... Change my address and my market, and this time I get the top 5 percent warning message at 1.7 gigs....
[Samsung Infuse 4G] tjy8tim:
is your market linked to your address? i'm trying to change market..
[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
Well I finally get a warning at 6GB .. that is horrible considering their largest plan is 4GB so 2GB over that I get a warning and some of u at 2GB its a bit sad.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] apallohadas:
No. No it's not.

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[Samsung Infuse 4G] tjy8tim:
then how do i change market if it's not linked to my address?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
Use your phone in another location... end of story
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Justinfedor:
I want u to live in a area with 50 and 49 of them have unlim and u have 2gb. Let them stream all day long and tell me how slow your data is. Its not gonna be fast if everyone is using up the bandwidth idiot. That is why att put a throttle on unlim. Contract states unlim usuage not speed so therefore att is not at fault. U use 50gbs in a month theres something wrong. STOP DOWNLOADING PORN ALL DAY!!!!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] maxjivi05:
... wow calm down, you don't get mad at your cable internet customers for using the internet and slowing you down, its not their fault they are sold internet they can download with.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Delgoth:
i don't understand 10 gigs of usage before the half way point of the month. I bet your computer can download files and load pages faster than your phone or tablet.

I stream YouTube a lot in HQ and I stay under 2GB. You must be just downloading things on your phone to feel better. Because it can't be that fast compared to road runner Turbo and above. But if you have unlimited, its cool. But if go that high in usage personally I think you are just trying to see how high you can go in a month. Downloading ridiculous files you cant even use on the phone itself.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Simba501:
Not true. What is with the ranting in this thread; it's misguided. Directing this at your fellow users is exactly what allows AT&T to do this. It's even worse when people back AT&T. They couldn't care less about individuals. Spewing everything at each other is the absolute worst thing to do. How are people bashing individuals that use their devices; that's asinine. I don't do anything out of the ordinary (a lot of emails, streaming, browsing, dropbox use, etc) and I almost religiously go over 10gb.

This is concerning. If AT&T decides to throttle at 100 mb, I'm afraid people will find reasons to justify and support their actions :(.