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[Motorola Droid RAZR] okcthunderfan:
First post here, hopefully you guys aren't too hard on me. I've had my phone for 6 days now and have experienced the same issues with Android OS using the highest percentage of my battery life due to the suspend bug. Overall I still get somewhat decent battery life, about 12-13 hours, but I feel it could be much, much better.

A couple of nights ago I decided to do a factory reset to see if it was an issue with an app I installed. I charged the phone to 100% and performed the reset. I went through the setup, added my google account, etc. When I opened the Market it auto-updated the apps that came pre-installed on the phone, but I didn't install anything else. The only other thing I did to the phone was configure my two email accounts, one exchange and one POP. That's it. I turned wifi off, left lte on, and went to bed with the phone showing 90% charged. I got up 8 hours later and the phone showed 60% after sitting on my night stand doing nothing all night.

Overall I'm very happy with the phone. Battery life for me isn't terrible, it's just not what I think it should be. At this point I'm somewhat skeptical that it's an app causing my problem and not the OS itself.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] SallyC:
I don't think just having 4G on means you won't have battery drain? If you have a poor signal strength it will drain trying to connect.

I wish there were an app or something that would do a better job of helping us figure out these issues. Or maybe there is and I just don't know how to use them.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Jesseownzzz:
So from what I've seen using betterbatterystats is that the suspend process doesn't last forever. I had fallen asleep almost 2 hrs when I woke to check it, it had said that the process has gone in for 8 seconds.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xxkyh:
"Android OS" also drains a lot of my battery. Now I am at 34% after 20 hr, and "Android OS" shows 46%.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] GuildGuitars:
Resolved for me on the leaked VZW update. I was at over 40% beforehand.

Now I'm hovering at about 5%.

UPDATE: Hmmmm. Looks like high utilization is back for me after one reboot... Damn.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Shadowdancer123:
I disabled wifi location service and added maps to auto kill.

Got me 24 hours extra battery life.

With those two allowed to run, I was at 40% after 12 hours.

Might not be a a bug.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] okcthunderfan:
That's great to hear. I hope it fixes it for me, too.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Jesseownzzz:
Today the suspend bug has been worse than ever. Im on 80% battery 3hr and 15min with my android Os taking up 89% of it wtf? This needs to get fixed
[Motorola Droid RAZR] okcthunderfan:
Looks like the update fixed it for me. Previously Android OS would be consuming around 40% of my battery usage. Since the update this morning it's holding steady around 5%. Great news.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Jesseownzzz:
What update is this?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] okcthunderfan:
The OTA update that was just pushed out. However, I may have spoken too soon. This afternoon Android OS started creeping up again. It seemed to happen right after I made two small changes. I force closed the Verizon Location Agent and I changed the screen timeout from one minute to 15 minutes since my son was playing a game and the screen kept timing out on him. I've since rebooted the phone and changed the screen timeout back to 1 minute. We'll see what happens.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] GuildGuitars:
Has anyone tracked down what specific process is causing this CPU usage?

Any way to autokill this process? (based on the assumption that it's not needed, of course)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] okcthunderfan:
Everything I have read suggests it's the Suspend process. Basically the phone isn't going to sleep when the screen is off. This bug seems to affect a lot of different phones.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Jesseownzzz:
Has anyone tried contacting android or Motorola? I tried Motorola and they were just telling me dumb answers
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Sporttster:
Mine still has it after the update. And it doesn't seem to be quite as smooth operating as before. Anyone else notice that???
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mcleaver84:
Mine is still over 55% with update
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pm1066:
I'm not convinced it is suspend alone. I've been tracking suspend through System Monitor, and the below results are typical. This is a screenshot of the suspend process and battery drain over the last day:

In other words, REGARDLESS of whether I get sh*tty or great battery life, Suspend always, always, always is running, but always, always, always is running at about 3%. I saw it once bump up into 10% for a brief period.

Also note while suspend is 3% of the total cpu activity, the CPU itself was running at less than 1% of it's capacity. Now, this is typical Suspend activity, for me any day before or after the OTA. Yesterday, however was a great battery day, mostly because I just did phone calls and little web browsing.

Again, good day or bad day, Suspend isn't the culprit on my phone. And trust me, I've had some terrible "hit the charger twice" days especially since the OTA was released. One final note, the day plus of battery life was a little wifi, mostly 3G only (4G turned off). This is the absolute best battery life I've seen--normally it burns through 10% an hour just sitting there.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ronin3178:
When I turn off the suspend from the white list in watchdog, my alerts come in for > 40-50% of CPU usage. And it comes in everytime I turn off the screen after about a minute. I don't have the full system monitor tho.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] GuildGuitars:
Mine hit 50% usage today, after 12 hours. :mad:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] larrygeary:
I wanted to add a couple of things to this discussion. First, I hope people realize that these percentages you are looking at are relative to the total CPU usage. They will always add up to 100% (allowing for rounding errors). If you charge your phone, power it up, unplug it, turn off the display and leave it alone overnight, the system just ticks over all night. So Android OS will account for a very large percentage of the usage. This is no different from Task Manager on your PC showing System Idle accounting for 99% of CPU usage when the PC is idle. Actual CPU usage may be 0% - 2% at the time. The same thing is happening on the phone. Actual CPU usage is maybe 2% of total capability, and various system and background services make up the bulk of the usage. So I think it is a mistake to be worrying about these percentages taken up by the OS.

Second, when installing apps from the Market, I recall a number of them telling me that they "prevent phone from going to sleep". I'm not clear on what they mean by "sleep" here, but if you go to settings/battery information/battery usage and tap the top banner, it will show you how long the phone has been "awake". My phone was "awake" most of last night, but did sleep for an hour or so. It was more awake at the beginning of the night, as if some app was active, but gradually lowered its activity and allowed the phone to "sleep" for long periods. So I think our battery drain problem may be due to either one or more apps that are active during the night and preventing the phone from going to sleep, or a setting we made that is having the same effect (and which may increase the percentage of activity by Android OS). I think this is where we need to look.

BTW, overnight my phone went from 99% to 92% over a period of 8-9 hours, so the battery usage was roughly 1%/hour. I was using Juice Defender Ultimate with a night schedule. Not bad, but I think we can do better if we track down the factors that are keeping the phone awake. Once we know that, Smart Actions or Juice Defender or Tasker may help us develop a setup for minimal battery usage. We should try to cooperate in that effort.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
I have experienced issues when Smart Actions is enabled. I have lost 60-70 percent in 2-3 hours with screen off and it just just sitting there when smart actions was running. Motorola Services was the culprit.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milesg:
I recently noticed the GPS icon appearing in the status bar when no application that uses GPS had been started.

My battery stats show that com.motorola.friendfeed was was the second biggest user of battery (with 15 minutes of GPS!) anyone know what this is? I don't use any of the social media widgets - don't even have a facebook account - so this is a bit of a mystery.

:confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ddemlong:
Do you have Latitude enabled?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] milesg:
Nope, although I may have opened it by accident once I've never accepted the terms and conditions and got it set up. I also use Launcher Pro and have done from day 1.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] larrygeary:
I have an update to my previous post. I read some of the Juice Defender documentation and played around with the "enable" settings on some apps. Juice Defender was set to the "Extreme" setting where it turns off connectivity most of the time. I charged the phone last evening, then rebooted and took it off charger at midnight. At 7:00am it had lost only 4% of capacity, and a check of the battery usage showed that the phone "slept" all night.

Since using the phone this morning, I'm finding that the display is the biggest energy user, even with the brightness down at about 15%-20%. That's the penalty we pay for these big, beautiful displays. If we actually use the phone and the display, we're probably looking at a nightly recharge. If we're away from electricity and only keeping the phone on for emergency calls and email, it might last a few days. The solutions would be a bigger battery or a less power hungry display, and I'm not sure how much more progress we can make in either technology.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] R3dbeaver:
i definitely have this suspend bug too.

got watchdog running and polling every 5 minutes. if i left my off alone (display off, locked) for about 30-minutes, it'll at least get 1 pop-up with suspend running over 30%.

when i set it to >50%, i get it every other hour, with suspend hitting 70~80% CPU usage.

i always set my display brightness to 0% and battery stat shows indeed Android OS is biggest juice sucker.

Moto needs to fix this ASAP or at least get us to ICS... coz i read somewhere it's a Linux inherent issue with Android, not just moto, and kernel 2.6.37 (Gingerbread on .35?) will fix this.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] NghtHwk:
I have the same problem- the 'Android OS' seeming to kill the battery.

I have a RAZR MAXX. I usually put the phone to sleep (hold down the power button, select 'sleep') when I go to bed. I put it down one night like that, battery at 60%, and when I woke up about 6, 7 hrs later, the phone was completely dead. I pulled up the battery stats, and it showed that as soon as I put it to sleep, the phone became 'awake' and drained the battery.

Stock, not rooted, Build 6.5.1-167, Kernel 2.6.35.7
[Motorola Droid RAZR] royalbloodvi:
FIX: http://androidforums.com/i7500-all-things-root/78471-no-sleep-bug-fixed-drakaz.html

i havent confirmed it works for our razr though, anyone want to confirm?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] maarawoe:
interesting... i am a bit afraid to try it and it would be nice if some of the devs reviewed it... :)

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btw isn't that a kernel patch?? if it is we are f*cked because oh our bootloaders.. :-(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pm1066:
What you are describing sound very different from the normal bug. The normal bug manifests itself when the phone is on but otherwise idle, when it should "sleep" because you aren't messing with it. For it to turn itself back on from real sleep is pretty much unheard of; I don't think even alarms can do that. Has it ever happened again, and are you sure you didn't wake it by accident by pressing the power button?

Either way, losing 60% battery over a few hours while the phone is idle is nuts. Definitely something went rogue.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] just lou:
You must have something else going on, or a rogue app. I use my phone all day long, and I don't go through 50% of my battery life. FWIW, I don't have any problems with sleep either. It never uses more than 10% overnight.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] R3dbeaver:
sounds a little different than the usual 'suspend' process.

not even Alarm can wake up when the phone is in sleep mode...

dont think thats the same issue. not for the RAZR, and its for custom ROM too. i dont think i'll try that out lol
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b-eock:
Anyone wanna help me setup the toolchain, so i can compile???
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b-eock:
Bumpity
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Solidsnake726:
My dad's getting his droid razr in a couple of weeks off of amazon. He really wants to be able to tether his phone to his laptop for internet and whatnot. So I saw that there was an app on the amazon appstore called Easytether, which lets you tether without getting nailed by the verizon tether fee. Can anyone confirm that a droid razr can use this app without additional charges? Thanks.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Oaklands:
Have not tried easy tether but I have rooted and used wifi tether.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Solidsnake726:
Yeah, I do the same thing on DINC 2. However, he doesn't want to risk rooting. Thats why I wanted to use easytether since you dont need root.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jbeenemd:
Could also try pdanet. I've used both Easytether and pdanet with an Incredable2. I rooted the phone and now use either androidtether or barnacle which are wireless tethering. Seems that the wireless tethering gives me faster connections on my phone.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mlogan24:
x2 for the OP's question. Any success from those that haven't rooted? I need to know for my father-in-law's phone, and he definitely won't want me rooting it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Deron Baker:
Although not a direct answer to the OP's question, I do know that you can use Bluetooth to tether your Razr to a laptop or iPad without rooting and without incurring extra Verizon charges. I have done so with my Razr.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Deron Baker:
You know what, there is a free version of Easytether that you can view non secure sites. It is there to make sure the app works on your phone. I gots my Razr and my laptop right here. And I am not rooted. Why don't I just download the thing and see if it works. I am curious as well. Hang on ....

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Well, hot dog!! It works. I am now sending this from my laptop plugged into my Razr, using Easytether Lite. My WiFi is definitely turned off on my laptop and the Razr is on 3g network. Razr is not rooted. (I've never rooted my phones.)

I'll have to wait till I get home to try using it with the 4g network. I work in a hospital and it's like a concrete bunker down here so no 4g signal where I am right now.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Deron Baker:
[A] EasyTether Pro works on un-rooted Droid Razr

See for yourself. I just upgraded to EasyTether Pro. $10 is a great deal, especially since I'm grandfathered in with unlimited 4g data on my Razr. This is good since I was having problems getting a decent connection on WiFi in the cafeteria.

And yes there is a significant difference in speeds between 3g and 4g. According to speedtest.net I got about 2 Mbps download on 3g and 7 - 9 Mbps download on 4g. The only problem I can see is that the USB charge is insufficient to actually charge the phone while tethering it. It slows the battery drain but cannot counter it completely.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nigezee:
You dont get charged for usb tether. I use easytether all the time. You do get charged for wifi tether tho. You can use easytether with any phone not just the razr. There is also another app called pdanet. I havent tried that one tho.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jfolliard:
well, I can't seem to get it to work after installing and reinstalling. Not sure what question to ask but perhaps someone could walk me throught the setup steb-by-step?

Thanks!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] torikorocks:
I like easy tether pro. If you don't wanna root then this is the way to to go. My last phone was rooted but I haven't rooted my razr yet so I'm using easy tether pro.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RodHQ:
There aren't any duplicate entries, but some contacts have the same number twice for some reason, some have their number written as xxx-xxx-xx and as xxxxxxxx, whenever I edit them, only one entry shows up. Nothing major but kind of annoying when trying to make a phone call, any idea on how to remove it?
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zombiej79:
Im running revolver rom and was wondering where the sound options for srs and such the sound tab in the setting tab settings are pretty limited
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chaz187:
Is this kind of read Write speed normal for a stock 8g SD CARD? Its the one that came with my EVO.

Thanks,

Charles

sent from my CLASSIC EVO in HARMONY!!!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottypeterson:
I think there's probably something wrong with the application you use, try uninstalling it and then reinstalling it from the market. I use that app like many others do and you shouldn't be getting that kind of speed.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottypeterson:
Your write speed should be around 2-5 with a class 2 card.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chaz187:
I have reinstalled it many times after flashing different roms. It always sems to be this high on all the roms I flas. I guess it good it reads this fast. I download songs and stuff fast from the pc to the phone and so forth.

Thanks,

Charles
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottypeterson:
That's weird.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Papa Smurf151:
Are you using the SD card speed script
[Motorola Droid 3] golgothagecko:
So I migrated from a Samsung Epic to a Droid 3. I used Titanium to backup TeleNav GPS and it restored on my Droid just fine. So good news to those that want an alternative to Google NAV. TeleNav is free on Sprint (now free on my Droid 3 too :) )

Telenav has come in handy a few times when Google nav didn't have their maps accurate.
[Motorola Droid 3] The Red X:
Telenav

I have the market version installed on my D3, but it doesn't work... screen goes white. Have they fixed that yet? Something about the display not being compatible.
[Motorola Droid 3] golgothagecko:
Found a different way to install it here :

appstorehq.com/telenavgpsnavigator-android-982842/app
[Motorola Droid 3] pujdo2:
thank you for the link.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ZRC26:
Hello.

I m having a problem with my transformer. Right now it is charging slow as if it was connected to the computer and not the wall plug. Also the message "Connect your Charger" won't go out of the screen, even if it is connected or fully charged. I flashed a custom ROM to see if it fixed something, but I had no luck. The cable works fine to connect the transformer o my PC the only thing wrong is that is is not charging properly and the message won't go off. Do you have any idea of what could be happening? My wall charger is model OB-1LF, which I believe is not the one with the known fault. Any ideas?
[Eee Pad Transformer General] xufuchang:
the adapter is surely broken.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] hshoem1:
This will sound nuts but, put your wall charger in a plastic baggie [push out all the air and then seal the bag] and put it in your freezer compartment for say 3hrs. Take it out [still in the bag] and let the charger warm up to room temp.

The charger may now work. It is worth a try. You would be trying to be sure the thermal fuse inside the charger is reset. I brought one back to life that way.

hshoem1
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Rumbleweed:
the TF uses pin 7 in the USB connector to signal the charger to use the 15v output. If the charger does not see a gnd on pin7 it will only charge at 5V as ypou are seeing. Are you using an extension usb cable? If no then check the pins on the TF and cable for bent or damaged pins. Also try the freezer as the charger may have gone into safety reset.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ZRC26:
Thanks for the answers. I will try the bag and freezer to see if it gets fixed. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] asdfuogh:
I know that this freezer trick works (also with broken hard drives too apparently), but what's the physical reasoning behind it? I swear I've seen a good explanation of it before but I can't remember..
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dagrim1:
Same problem here... Even had the charger replaced but of no use. It does charge wth a different (do it yourself) charger usig the same cable.Maybe that doesn't have the 5v/12v mode or something...

Going to order a new adapter and hope thatll fix it otherwise I'll send the entire transformer for repair i guess :/
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mglancy23:
I just got one today (got a good price on Amazon)

it just will not charge, tried all the fixes! not too happy as i went for the asus over the ipad and apparently quite a few people have charging issues with it.

charges very slowly through my laptop

From reading posts on forums is sounds like a few people are having it and Asus should of recalled the charger.

phone call to Asus tomorrow :mad:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Rumbleweed:
There is overtemp protection circuit that should reset once the charger cools, but apparently it needs to cool down past room temp. The freezer is cold enough to reset it. I would not buy a new TF charger search for devcakes discussion there several aftermarket chargers that work well
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thangnh:
Check the cable. I had the same problem. At first I thought it was because of faulty charger and had it returned and got a new one from Asus, but still had the same issue. Then I returned the cable for a new one, it worked flawlessly.

A plus: Asus gave me new cable which was much longer than the original one.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mglancy23:
the cable is fine, used it to charge via my laptop
[Eee Pad Transformer General] fone_fanatic:
I had the same issue with my charger. I called up Asus and was able to send it in for repair, after a couple days they mailed me a new charger and cable.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Rumbleweed:
Charging with your laptop does not involve pin 7 and supplies 5V. If pin 7 or that conductor is bad or you use an incorrect USB extension cable, the pin 7 signal will not get to the charger and will not supply the 15V charge voltage for normal charge.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] mglancy23:
Cheers will send the cable as well to be sure but am pretty confident its the power adapter.

Hopefully i will have an adapter for next week.

I had a brief play on it and i was quite impressed, the stock browser was surprinsignly good and may unistall dolphin.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] ZRC26:
I tried the freezer trick, but it didn't worked. I ordered another wall charger to see if it works. What's really weird about this is that the Connect your Charger message will not go off the screen. It doesn't matter if it has 100% charge it will still show "Connect your Charger". :confused:
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Rayan:
In my case my Transformer didn't want to charge at all. The red light never came up while connected, the only way to fix it was to drain my Transformer all the way until shutdown and then plug it in and voila! It started charging again ever dince.

Great tips by the way!

Thanks
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dagrim1:
Just an update, after ordering a new adapter (with cable) it now works... Appearantly the cable was the problem afterall...

New cable with old charger = ok, new cable with new charger = ok, old cable with new charger = no go, old cable with old charger = no go.

And old cable with 3rd party adapter supplying 12V = ok, heh...

New cable is longer indeed, now I just need to think if I wanna go through the RMA process again for the old cable. But yeah, cable was the issue (out of nowhere btw).
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Rumbleweed:
The Pin 7 Connection I referenced earlier is bad. This prevents the charger from outputting 15V.