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[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
My transformer plays 720p video very smoothly on my car trip but when attempting to watch the same file on my friends ipad2 that i was barrowing it failed misreably. Well anyway Apple tends to lie alot and put out the outdated hardware such as the iphone 4 at 800 mhz my i got my hd2 a year and a half before that and it has better hardware. Apple will always have there followers that buy whatever piece of crap they put out and then buy the same thing 6 months later that added what should have been in the orginal. Hopefully iOS 5.0 big bugs will show everybody how bad apple really is and dont get me started on how OS X is a modified version of linux and there selling it. Well the point is my transformer destroys my friends ipad 2 in performance
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thunng8:
It all depends on what software you are using to view the file. There are many iOS video players that are perfectly capable of playing 720p high profile movies just fine.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
Yes im well aware it was 30 mbps so thats why i think it failed. But in general everybody over hypes apple products for the most part there not that good and is 100% apples fault but thats just my opinion. I believe that the tegra 3 will outperform the A5 by quite alot. We we all know when the TF primes comes out
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tekkitan:
he isn't saying that :P
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thunng8:
Not quite sure what you are saying then.

I saw this from Gary:

"You said GLbenchmark is hindered by lack of hardware acceleration. This just isn't true, period."

The above quote is true. GLBenchmark is not hindered by the use of Honeycomb since honeycomb is fully 3D hardware accelerated.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tekkitan:
You could have read it yourself. Not sure why laziness has set in.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thunng8:
The TF prime will definitely outperform the A5 in CPU limited applications that can take advantage of all 4 cores. For those application, it could be up to 2X faster :)
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
By choice, not that it is any of your business :). Do you honestly think some silly bickering is real testament of my moderation abilities? It's easier to not be a moderator and be able to call people out on their bull**** than to have to offer tact.

Don't bother bro, he refuses to budge on his delusional and incorrect viewpoint ;)

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Eee Pad Transformer General] :
4 cores beat 2 :D lol
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tekkitan:
Technically, hardware acceleration on honeycomb is OFF in apps unless it is specifically turned on by the dev. If you know for a fact it was for this benchmark, then yes I was wrong.

---------- Post added at 11:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:07 PM ----------

You were the one that wanted to start bickering and calling me names. And yes, I do think it is because if this is how you act as a moderator, it wouldn't be for very long.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] tekkitan:
"Posting like an idiot" = you're an idiot

Don't try to make it sound different than it actually is or how you meant it.

Also I was not posting incorrect facts. You were. Hardware acceleration is NOT JUST THE UI.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
So you believe someone cannot act stupid without being stupid? I've done stupid things, but I still believe myself fairly intelligent (although I know you'll disagree).

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Eee Pad Transformer General] oka1:
FROM THE MODERATOR

No more bickering and personal flaming in this thread or I will close it.

IF you have disagreements .....that is fine.... post in a cordial manner or do not post.

Thank you for you help.....Moderator.......
[Eee Pad Transformer General] thunng8:
Of course it was on. The benchmark won't even run with it being off.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Aelyus:
Quoting Dan Morril, Android Open Source & Compatibility Tech Lead in hopes this somehow settles the HW Acceleration debate.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jtrosky:
Finally, some cold hard FACTS! Thank you!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Spidey01:
Actually, I think he was qouting a G+ entry by Dianne Hackborn that Dan Morrill and a crap load of other people have re-shared.

Yes but I don't think Tapatalk has a mute this thread option, so I still have to see the thingy. You have a good point but that is also why the ban button was invented, followed by the H&K MP5 to the back of the noggin' when that doesn't work. Good old esculation of ejection :-).
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Hah -- having administered a couple of forums, and worked with large websites, I can tell you that ban buttons don't work. All they do is make the troll come back and redouble their efforts from a new IP address...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
It doesn't. None of that applies to GLbenchmark.

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Eee Pad Transformer General] JoeTF:
1080p is usually encoded with higher bitrate/pixel and this it can retain more fidelity even after mandatory downsampling.

However, the real issue is with

not

having to re-encode your 1080p content to 720p (which will destroy quality and take hours even on hi-end PC) and simply playing it directly on your device.

Most of Bueray sourced materials are provided in 1080p, so it's not a marginal issue.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Spidey01:
Yeah, it only works if they don't care to return. That's why I had to find a way to joke about applying Heckler und Koch to the problem; which doesn't work well in practice legally or versus anominity. I have a crazy mind.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] combat goofwing:
http://www.businessinsider.com/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-review-2011-11

Good prime review here but reading it it seems as though the original epad transformer has passed him by unnoticed

DESIRE HD using leedroid. ASUS TRANSFORMER using prime
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
You make the assumption that the downsampling process uses high-quality algorithms that retain the maximum possible detail from the higher-bitrate video. Given the fact that the downsampling algorithms must operate in real time, and on a fairly low-power (compared to a desktop) device, that's quite an assumption to make. It's just as likely -- if not more so -- that the downsampling algorithms bring no noticeable benefit in picture quality, or actually introduce a reduction in picture quality, versus simply reencoding the video at the correct resolution for the device with an algorithm that doesn't have to operate in real-time, concurrent with the video playing, and which can be run on a powerful desktop PC.

I don't know what you consider to be a high-end PC, but full movies don't take remotely "hours" on my machine. We're talking more like 90 seconds for a DVD movie to transcode, and maybe 10-15 minutes max. for a Blu-Ray transcode (not including time to rip the original disc.) And you're also not taking account of the fact that it takes significant time to copy a 1080 rip to even a fast MicroSD card, and even longer to transfer to the tablet by WiFi. The difference in time taken to transfer accounts for most if not all of the difference in transcoding time.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Magnesus:
Nope, on a TV/full HD monitor screen. That's what the HDMI is for. Tegra2 is ****ty for this. Tegra3 should be just fine, but we will see. I don't know about iPad or iPad2.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
It's been said already, but the TF101's HDMI output is 720p. It does not and will not show 1080p video. I've not seen anything saying this has changed in the TF201, but we'll see. At least the TF201 is powerful enough that it might be useful.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
Uh... why bring up DVDs, they are irrelevant to his point that we don't want to transcode as you never need to transcode DVDs to play on the TF... and what kind of hardware do you have that a bluray transcode takes 15 minutes lol..? I know my CPU is somewhat old (Q6600 @ 3.4 GHz) but it still takes ~2 hours to properly transcode a 1080p bluray *show* (aka 45min, not 1.5-2hrs of a movie), into something that looks decent on TF/HDMI out.

As for the microSD... wat? Are you not aware of NAS or external HDD enclosures or that the TF has USB ports? It doesn't take long at all to copy a 10gb movie to an external HDD over usb3.0, to playback on your TF. In fact, it takes far less time than the 3-4 hours it would take to transcode it..

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Eee Pad Transformer General] theraffman:
Not sure what software you use or what your system specs are but I can take a bluray disc and within about 20 minutes have a ripped copy on my TF that looks fabulous. Can't speak for the quality on any of my larger LCD/led TVs over HDMI because I don't have any need for that. The bonus is that the finish file size is approximately 1.5gb which allows me to have dozens of movies on a pair of 32gb micro SD cards. I don't see the point in having full 1080p files in use on a tf ... Having one or two movies per card sounds awfully inefficient as well as unnecessary, especially on a 10.1" screen. Perhaps I would understand if I had to primarily use my tf for video on any of my larger TVs.

Not pertaining to the gentleman I quoted, but what is the obsession with people who expect these devices to act and perform like high end PC's and then are surprised that they don't? Did I miss the memo stating that the TF was meant to replace every entertainment and business device one could imagine? All things considered its an impressive piece of hardware, remember 10 years ago, if someone said I could have something like the TF for under 300 bucks I would have laughed.

I'm just trying to keep things in perspective.

Carry on
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
What software/settings do you use and on what system specs? I'm using handbrake. Also, re-read the second half of my post :).

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Eee Pad Transformer General] theraffman:
Gotcha, honestly when I see a set of users going back and forth I usually don't invest to much time on reading their posts, they mostly consist of back and forth bickering with little relevant information to the nature of the thread. I just happened to see you talking about it taking hours to transcode and wanted to add my quick anecdote.

but even my laptop, which is just a 2ghz i7 with 8gb of ram can perform what I need within 30 minutes or so. And it only needs to be done once.

but I'm not a videophile or anything like that, so things such as this tend to be trivial.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
Mm i7 could mean quick sync... which sacrifices quality for quick encodes (sometimes hitting speeds of 200+ fps). Again, what program do you use for encoding? :P

Sent from my Transformer TF101
[Eee Pad Transformer General] theraffman:
Just dvd fab or dvd catalyst depending on whether its a bluray disc or mkvfile.

As far as quality goes, it looks perfect to me, but I'm not analretentive so what looks great to me may be alright to someone else. On a 10.1" I can't see the finish product being any better.

on a side note, for watching on my 55" led tv, I rip my bluray discs using dvd fab to mkv 1080p, ending file size is somewhere in the 15gb range and takes about 50 minutes or so, cant remember its been a while since I have done that.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] PatrickVogeli:
I'm one of those who want to play a 1080p movie on a 720p screen. Why? Because I don't want to re-rip, or transcode or whatever the files I already have.. it's simple.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Aelyus:
Well, Nvidia has the perk of commonly lying about it's products. So it wouldn't come to me as a shocking surprise seeing how the OMAP 4430 is actually better than Tegra 2 at video playback.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Magnesus:
Almost everything is better at playing video compared to Tegra2. Probably my cheap cell-phone too. :) Let's hope it's fixed in Tegra3, it has NEON, it has 2x more cores (though they are the same as before), and a little faster memory. I think it should be more than enough.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heeter:
Hi all

Searching but cannot locate an answer.

Can the blackberry Playbook be rooted and a Android with recovery be installed? .

Thanks

Heeter
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TekMason:
The Playbook has been rooted and Dingleberry was just released this afternoon. Shouldn't be long until we have an Android port.

TekMason
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heeter:
Awesome,

Thanks for the update.

Looks like I am going out to pick one up then.

Was only going to get one if I can get Android put in.

Thanks

Heeter
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bsdnix:
so will there be any port for playbook?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Richdog:
I can get hold of a Playbook in great condition for cheap, so im hoping to hell and back that I can put a fully functional Android on it within the next months!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nievz:
were you able to get a playbook?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Richdog:
Yup, and it's not bad! Will be much better though when the new 2.0 OS update is released. :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r_1_2_3_4:
Any updates on android for playbook

Please let me know
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Richdog:
Swapped the Playbook for a galaxy tab 7.7, its like night and day.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AceRoom:
I was thinking of possibly getting the Playbook. What do you suggest? The price dropped recently and the difference between the Playbook and anything close to its hardware is steep. But is it worth it?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonest27:
playbook

Hiya, just wondering if an android rom has been released yet?

any news?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ExploreMN:
I don't think you are going to see this go anywhere. Considering you can buy real Android tablets with similar specs for similar price, this is dead in the water.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Richdog:
The Playbook itself is just about dead in the water.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pixelens:
Given the recent RIM news, I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar fire sale on Playbooks as we did with the HP Touchpad. Honestly, something like this at the right price if it could run Android would be great for kids. Been looking for something for my 6 and 8 year old without breaking the bank that they can play around with during vacation road trips, etc.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kolton545:
Hopefully soon there will be a full port of ICS on the playbook
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SifJar:
It is rather unlikely there will ever be a full Android port for the PB. Or possibly even another root. RIM are of course known for their secure devices. It isn't likely someone will crack the bootloader on the device to allow installing a different OS. Even rooting the current OS has become rather difficult now (to the point no one can manage it). Now almost all processes on the PB run as regular user, rather than root. The only one that's root is the web server, which only has something like 6 functions, none of them exploitable. It is renowned as the industry's most secure web server, hence it's use by RIM, seeing as security is one of their primary concerns.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rotundjere:
only few developers interested working on this blackberry playbook - android port,

you should buy galaxy tab 2 7.0 instead and cost around $390
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nocturnal_50:
given that RIM has provided next to no information about how the device itself has been locked down beyond belief (improbable to breach bootloader security to flash CWM then flash rom) I doubt that there will be any luck with this working, I'll get in contact with RIM on monday and discuss unlocking the bootloader as well as the possibility to get source for PBOS2 (doubt it though as they will probably want me to sign legal wavers and agreements against using the code to "alter their product in such a way that it could be used to damage or modify the device")
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EnzoSZFang:
I also hope PB can run Android OS...

Although there are a lot of tablet in Market, but I still like PB....
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nocturnal_50:
well and truly a dead future for that device, I called RIM they are unwilling to provide me with the required stuff to open the device to booting android
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wednesday13:
I need this!!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] sgregory111:
Will the sins of my past haunt me?

I have seen discussions on other forums about how those of us who used Cheesecake to install .893 from the Moto servers will not be able to take advantage of future updates.

I hope Motorola keeps in mind why customers installed .893. I paid $300 for a phone that had significant data connectivity problems. It was frustrating to know that Motorola had a fix available but I could not take advantage of it. I totally understand the need for Motorola to go through a careful quality assurance process, and I agree with it.

As an experience IT professional I read up on how to install the leaked update. I was confident I could do it without bricking my phone. I also read that it may take me off the update path, although I am optimistic this will not be the case. I knew I was installing the update at my own risk. Had I bricked the phone then I would accept the responsibility. I did not.

The leaked update significantly improved my data connectivity. I am thrilled with the phone. I also am looking forward to continuing down the upgrade path. I will be very upset if Motorola deliberately prevents this because I installed there, albeit leaked, update to resolve the known issues that existed with their phone.

I was not trying to get something I did not deserve. I was trying to get what I paid for, a working phone with reliable data connectivity. I use the phone for business and I absolutely require a smart phone with data. Had I not applied the .893 update I would have been forced to revert to my OG Droid. I did not apply this update to get anything more then what I paid for.

The decision is Motorola’s. Although I think it is wrong, Motorola can lock us out from future upgrades. There is not much we can do about it, except not buy Motorola in the future.

I believe Motorola is an awsome company and will make what I believe is the correct decision. If they don’t I suspect there will be a developer that will come up with a work around. Of course this will further push me off the upgrade path.

I would prefer to be completely stock. I do not need to be rooted. I do not want what I did not pay for. However, the only way I could use the phone’s data capability, a requirement for getting email, was to install the update.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ticrandall:
This new, 'unable to upgrade unless stock' just adds to the whole bionic disaster. I was in your boat and held off for as long add I could stand it.. My 500 dollar phone was basically a useless paper weight. The data drops were horrid. Most days I had no data and battery pulls were a frequent part of the 'user experience'. I can't remember being this angry over some thing I have bought. After the uptenth release delay I tools myself I wasn't buying it. unfortunately the phone I had was done for, and I gave it a shot. At this point moto would have to do something extraordinary for me to buy anything from them again. I was looking a an Xoom... But decided on a Toshiba thrive. Their customer service is a wee bit better. Hopefully a Dev will come up worth a solution to this and I will be able to have a useable phone for the next year.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] AdamNJ77:
I was in the same boat you're in, but Verizon insisted on sending me out a new phone last week. I will be buying a Galaxy Nexus for full price as soon as it's out. I returned my phone to stock .886 (I know the radio and kernel don't go back) and removed root before I sent my old phone back. I am using the new phone they sent right now. I rooted it to use Titanium Backup, but I sure as heck won't upgrade it again so I can sell it as soon as the Nexus is out and won't have to disclose that I upgraded it
[Motorola Droid Bionic] greeneink:
They really have no choice unless they want to replace alot of Bionics.

I will recieve the official updates (including ICS) or I will insist on a replacement phone from Big Red. I'm sure I'm not the only one here. I pay for unlimited data, not occassional data. Not to go off topic, but I use less than 1GB of data a month, I don't feel guilty using the FREE hotspot to tether my Xoom. Contracts are supposed to benefit BOTH parties.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dagostin:
The .893 update might very well be the official update. I called moto and asked them about this potential problem. They saw that my system was 5.7.893 and told me I was on the latest and most up to date version. I thought they must just be dumb or something. However today someone posted on droidforums that they received an official ota update notification on their phone and after taking it they were on 893. Thus user supposedly called moto as well and they told him the same thing. That 893 was in fact the official update that would be released to everyone. Anyways at this point its all kinda speculation as its hard to know if these are truths and if moto/consumers are just confused. Either way if its turns outs that its not the final update and we can't take the real one from.the kernel mismatch, moto will allow u to send.them the phone and they will flash it for you. We did not void our warranties from applying it manually. They assured me of this. So while it might be an inconvenience, we will not be stuck.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] tennvol12345:
I'm with the OP. I travel constantly and the bionic is my sole source of internet (I have the hotspot add on). I too applied the 893 update back in early November because I needed the phone to work.

oddly enough I flashed the radio and system back to stock last night and my phone and lte have both been faster.

If i'm unable to ota the offical update i'm going to call American express and claim a warranty issue that I get data drops and that vzw and moto haven't resolved my issue. Generally they credit me for the purchase price of the phone since I paid full retail for the bionic and i'm going to jump ship for the Samsung.

One of the advantages of the amex gold and platinum cards.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dagostin:
just an fyi:

more and more sources are pointing to 5.7.893 as the OFFICIAL ota update. So all the rumors of what will be the final release, and everyoen trying to get back to stock if they applied this. Or people trying to get to the 5.8.893 or higher versions, etc, seems futile at this point. 2 users buying new bionics report that there phones are on 5.7.893 out of the box. In calling motorola, they confirmed this was the most up to date version. They told me teh same thing as well.

Here's a quote from someone at droid forums:

"

For what its worth, I just bought a bionic 2 days ago and its running 5.7.893 right out of the box. No ota update."

So, if you applied the leak that updated your kernel/radio and your system version is 5.7.893, i think you can rest assured that you are UP TO DATE. You will not receive any OTA cause you are already on the latest version. AND, when the next OTA comes out (ice cream sandwich i believe), you Will be able to take it as your system is good.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] ayush95gupta:
Hey sry friends for creating new thread.....but it was a doubt-

1-ICS Dialer....can any one just create a mod for ics dialer(xxkpq)

2-Its realy a silly question....is it possible for porting windows os(mango) on our device....-:p
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] kkrraazzyy:
you cant get mango but you can get the dialer
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] kemistry01:
Install the theme of kraazy or trip. They have ics dialers in their themes using it right now actually. For the Mango, obviously not but if you just want the look..go for launcher7 then download those apps that look like wp7. But why bother when you have android?? Hehe