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[General Questions and Answers] THE_KINGDOM:
I purposely targeted this crowd because I want the Android dev's to take a few notes from some things the jailbreaking community has to offer the iphone users.

And of course note that, in many cases iPhone apps are more polished than Android apps, and therefore this is also an area for improvement.

I have decided im making the full switch to Android regardless, the positives outweigh the negatives overall. But my opinions about various things still stand, and with time I hope that Android can improve things like:

better sms apps offered with clean interface and with quick reply (+ history) like biteSMS. Or even just a tweak that integrates with the stock SMS app just to enable quick reply popups with a clean looking semi-transparent interface, just a thought.

An interface similar to sbsettings for quick toggles and settings adjustments

and probably the biggest issue -- generally just improving the GUI/UI of apps that dev's make for all apps, this is generally the falling point for Android. I think we can all agree.

We have the dev's, we have the better OS, no reason not to do it.
[General Questions and Answers] dontbanmebro:
ya

i want to see u now going to downgrade an iphone from 4.3.5 to 4.3.3 without SHSH blobs u need so much programs and so much tries to make it work..

if besides that not every1 got the knowleadge to downgrade the phone and jailbreak it unlike android that install MOD is relatively much eaiser then downgrade\jailbreak an iphone
[General Questions and Answers] Jesushaxyou:
What notes are the Android dev's supposed to take? The latest advances in software management and functionality have been implemented by Android dev's/OEM's before anyone else.

Simply put; I work in an Apple Specialist store... I'm never going to have an iPhone. I get **** for it all day at work and such but after keeping up with hardware and software progressions, availability and customization options I can safely say that Android OS platform options are the only way to go for those who:

1) Want to make a breakthrough in a community.

2) Are really into the development and in-depth custom mods fields.

3) Want to LEARN

I will not take away from the iPhone that it is generally very simple to use. Personally the one button layout pisses me off but that's just personal preference. It's a good phone. It's just not as in-depth as Android IMO.
[General Questions and Answers] rukhi:
The thread fails at very beginning when the OP said that "There isnt much development in android" - my interpretation. XDA is a living proof that android development is massive.

Secondly yeah you would probably get a "polished" interface if u get an iDevice, the problem with Android os is that its too fragmented i mean look at HTC sense its way more user friendly then any other android interface. Now lets come to development.

The things/tweaks developed for ios are mostly implemented on Android os by stock, i meen geez why is there a need to have a "video recorder" hack on a 800$ iphone (talking of times when iP original was released)

the development is what the devs here can do with android. i Had an HD2 had a tripple boot on it with android wp7 and wp6.5 thats development :)

GeoHost and musclenerd saurik were the pioneers of iOS development, without them none of the current progress would have been possible on iOS but on android we have GeoHost, musclenerd and saurik for each device :). The truth is these two operating systems have become a religion for everyone... very hard to convince an apple user to turn over to android and likewise for ios. This question has been asked before and will continue to be asked for ever ... Hence pointless

-no disrespect for the OP but XDA and Android and cynogen rules and kicks ass :)
[General Questions and Answers] finch1991:
This thread is a waste!
[General Questions and Answers] Dirk:
I agree with the OP. Although i would never buy Apple, Android still has a long way to go before i would consider it 'good'.
[General Questions and Answers] CyberpunkDad:
I found the vast majority of cydia tweaks to be "Meh" at best. Winterboard gets old after a week. And that is from a former 3gs jb user who probably spent $50 over the years for the truly good cydia apps. Android is better in my opinion based on my years of jb life on a 3g and 3gs.
[General Questions and Answers] lajuan3:
owned <------
[General Questions and Answers] okishead:
This is never gonna end! Android's biggest advantage is the open source code and dev benchmark that allows anyone to make a ROM. And I'd say that there are super polished apps on Android in the paid section on the market.

Just wanted to add to those Androiders who forget that there are newbies at this forum. For them this thread is not a waste so do your best and give an unbiased opinion. The author of the thread did it.
[General Questions and Answers] dbaybay:
Very silly thread. I can't believe I read all five pages. *facepalm*

I gotta say only one person mentioned the fact that this Guy likes iOS because he can rip off developers and pirate apps. Whoo, give yourself a pat on the back for being a theifing dousche.

Furthermore if you knew anything about android its just as easy to pirate if not easier that's why half the devs on iOS wont develop for android. Seriously? Read some articles dude and stop being an asshat and stealing devs hard work because your too cheap to buy them. All ****ia is is a clusterf*** of useless "tweaks" and a collection of stolen apps. HORRAY!

Sent from my Le Pan Tab
[General Questions and Answers] rogier666:
Want a phone with a slideout keyboard? You can get one with Android, you can't get an iPhone with a keyboard.

On board memory vs. memory card? Android gives you a choice, iPhone doesn't. That may not sound like a big deal, until your hardware turns into an unbootable brick and the only way to rescue your data is by putting your SD into a card reader.

Want to pop in a charged spare battery because keeping your phone plugged in to charge for two hours defeats the purpose of a mobile phone? iPhone doesn't let you unless you're willing to void your warranty, carry a box of tools around, and run a very real risk of damaging your phone unless your extremely careful and take your time to replace the battery. On most Android phones inserting a fresh battery is a matter of seconds. No special tools required, and you keep your warranty.

Big screen phone or a small lightweight phone that fits in your jogging shorts? Android has 'em aplenty, iPhones only come in one-size-fits-all.

Expensive phone with all the bells and whistles or a cheap phone for times and places where losing your phone is a very real possibility? There are cheap Androids, expensive Androids, and every price range in between. iPhone only has two price points: either too expensive to lose or a second hand cheapo from two years ago. There's nothing in between.

Even if it doesn't make any difference in terms of tweaking the OS, Android wins because you get lots of hardware choices in addition to the software mods.
[General Questions and Answers] dustookk:
iPhone is easier i think ......
[General Questions and Answers] cyanogendroid:
I have used both and I can say that ios is smoother, but the speed and multitasking abilities of android are more valuable to me than what ios values.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G Cm7 Alpha 10
[General Questions and Answers] wacwac:
Who is really able to say what's better or not?
[General Questions and Answers] francomur99:
iPhone 4S with Jailbreak is better than Android

Hi After 6 month with the iPhone 4 with JB I decided to get an iPhone 4S after one week I have done the Jailbreak. Now I have only two devices the 4S with JB an Android Htc Sensation Xe rooted and after one month playing around with both devices I can confirm that the iPhone 4S with JB is the the best handset you can have in the real world. I work in the mobile sector 3 years now.... I had couple of dozen best mobiles....the best you can get...I have to admit everything you said is right: Android need something like Cydia, Android at the end of the day has only thing better than iphone: the widgets.....the rest of departments like Hardware and software, features and Apps, tweaks and mods ....the eco-system in general, the Store, the Music environment and the multi-platforms like ORB or VLC control just to name few, JB vs Root....and many..many other things is the iphone on the top of the game, is the iPhone 4S at the top of the mountain. Sorry Android

I have been an android fan for 2 years but we have to face the reality. With the iPhone 4 the future arrived on the mobile world....what is going to happen when the iPhone 5 will arrive to the high streets nobody knows.
[General Questions and Answers] Arcaneex:
And what will happen when jb becomes illegal? What could you possibly want for a phone besides music , calls and some game and customization? IOS has no customization at all , or perhaps you want to use the buggy dream board? Which also kind o changes the iOS therefore its not really iOS. Games? Maybe. But android has enough games , if you wish to play games like rage or infinity blade just go on the PC / console. And getting free apps easier on iOS? Hell no. You have to jailbreak , download installous and only then get them for free , while on android its just download one apk and done. ( Blackmart alpha , for instance. )

I had an iPod touch for a year now , with a jb and from day one regretted getting it instead of android phone.

Just my thoughts.
[General Questions and Answers] Amosela:
I was in a lecture once and the lecturer asked what is a quality car?

A guy at the back said a Rolls Royce. The lecturer then said:

"No, quality is fit for purpose, it is what best suits you. A 5 door family carrier is the best quality for a mother of 4, not an expensive sports car."

What I am trying to get across to you is that it doesn't matter what anyone here says about either product its what YOU think, I had the iPhone 4 for 10 months and loved it, was jailbroken and used as many tweaks and customisations as I could. And I enjoyed it greatly.

When I came to Android I started flashing custom ROM's trying Alpha builds tweaking and tinkering the devices and I totally love it! There has been a few times my phone has been stuck in a boot loop or just goes a bit crazy, I have even had a few sleepless nights fixing my Android device.

And you know what this makes me love Android even more, If IOS software was better in every possible way and then made better by Cydia I would still chose Android every time, because it's what I love, screw a better UI and more features.

Hope this helps somewhat. :)
[General Questions and Answers] tomongous:
I currently own iOS devices and Android devices and there are some big differences, but I disagree about iOS being better than Android here's why:

Customization & Adaptation-- iOS is going to tell you everything needs to be a square icon and that you'll need to dig in the system settings menu all the time; sure you can say, no I'm going to jailbreak, but every time you do that, you're reading up on the correct procedure for the latest version; maybe for others this worked well, but for me it seemed like I was constantly re-setting my phone up and finding some apps that used to use weren't available anymore. Not any fun for the end user.

With Android, you can update and Google remembers the hell out of your set up, you can use Google Voice and not lose numbers, and get set back up much faster. You can get and switch a theme or look down to the app. Devs are much 'free-er' and the end user isn't tied to a music program to manage apps and other things that become obvious as afterthoughts to iTunes. Android allows you to use a web front end to install apps. I could go on and on, but I am sure I am preaching to the choir on this one.

The only thing that I think I would agree with you on is that jailbreaking iOS is definitely a big leap when you compare what it does for you in Android and this is because Android is so open from the start, where as with iOS you are completely walled in... so of course a jailbroken iDevice is great, but you're taking something that's supposed to be walled in to the app store and opening it up to an open community where as with Android your taking something that's already really open and widening it just a bit more. So on the margin, jailbreaking appears to be much more impress when compared to OEM.

BTW, have you seen iOS on watch? I've seen Gingerbread on a watch, it's awesome and no, the iPod Nano isn't running iOS.
[General Questions and Answers] mistermentality:
All the lg phones I have that use android all have these in the notification menu so it must be possible :)

Dave
[General Questions and Answers] mistermentality:
Go sms does what your on about as it lets you reply to sms with quick pop up and can set it to look like iphone sms app if desired.

As for the settings well some android phones have those by default. Not sure which though as mine are lg.

Dave
[General Questions and Answers] Dirk:
At this stage i think Android could use a Cydia alternative. I think Koush ran that idea up the flagpole a little while ago although i don't know of it's intended scope, or whether it'll ever see the light of day.

It would be a great place for all of the mods that are developed here on XDA though. A central, categorised repository for everything Android. Anything created by the devs here, or elsewhere, could all be searched for, accessed and downloaded from the one location.

Of course, something like that would be a monumental effort. Imagine creating and running a site like the current Android Market. It would be both costly, and time consuming.

But wouldn't it be good!
[General Questions and Answers] Deus Tempestas:
What can Android learn from its older cousin, iOS?

I don't like Apple much either, but I also hope this does stir up lot of people.

Fact: Android is younger than iOS.

I doubt iOS was as easy to tweek at this age either.

So the Apple community has got it together for tweeking their phones, what can this community take, and improve on (of course:D) for the Android?

---------- Post added at 12:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 PM ----------

One "all things to all people" app is not what's needed here, a framework or a wrapper app, that lets you plug in whatever tweeks are available for your phone and tweek them, without writing your own ROM.
[General Questions and Answers] speedyink:
I find Android WAAY easier to tweak then the iPhone. On the iPhone you have to sift through thousands of stupid and useless tweaks to find the good ones, only to find the ones you really want to install the dude wants money for. It also feels way more limiting, like most tweaks all seem to fall in the skins category, or maybe slightly modifying the lock screen, or slightly modifying the behavior of something. There never seems to be any ground breaking I must have tweaks that totally change how the system works.

And what do you do when a os update becomes available? Why you find out the next new way to jailbreak and start all over from scratch!

Also something sorely missing from iOS.. full image backup and restore. Want to try something entirely different, but scared you might not like it? You can always make a full backup, try it out, and if something bad happens you can always restore it back just like you had it before.

Oh wait, custom roms? 'What are those you speak of' I hear the iPhone users say. Wanna try someone else's iteration of an OS? It may be stripped for speed, entirely skinned for looks, or a different version of the OS you may have never had access to before. It's easy and free, no tethered process required, and hey, don't like it, restore your backup!

In short, Jailbreaking is like the immature younger sister of Android's rooting potential.
[General Questions and Answers] RDKitty:
I've always been in contempt of Apple myself. (Steve Jobs, bless him, was a brilliant man but his corporation is all that I dispise.) I shall say now that I'm talking iPod instead of iPhone because they're exactly the same in every way except for the fact that one of them phones people.

I've always used either BB or Android (currently have a SGS2 GT-i9100M), but as of recent I got a job at an electronics store where all salespeople are required to have either an iPod or iPhone on them in order to demonstrate iPod speaker docks to customers. (imho if anyone ever manages to make a non-iProduct mp3 player with a 20 pin connection, they're in the money. Every freakin stereo in the world now has a damn iPod dock, but few of them have an aux 3.5mm input... But I digress.)

I jailbroke my iPod touch, which was difficult as it came with iOS 5 and I had to do the semi-untethered with redsn0w beta. Bricked the stupid thing about 6 times in the process, but prevailed eventually. The only thing that I really enjoy about my iPod now is the fact that I put an old-school gameboy emulator on it which allows me to "Catch em all" while I'm bored at work.

I do like the GUI of the iProducts. It's very smooth, very streamlined, very well-thought out. But having both a jailbroken iPod Touch and a rooted SGS2 (currently running lite'ning 6.1 ROM) I have to say that I've been able to do FAR more with my Android.

This being said, I did finally manage to put Ubuntu on an OLD 1st Gen iPod classic (when the iPod classic was still just the iPod... the ONLY iPod.) that I got at a pawn shop and that is now one of my favourite devices to play around with.

What I don't like is that (as I mentioned, I work at an electronics store) Apple are a bunch of money, grubbing sons of guns. They offer NO promotions on their phones when someone signs up with any phone, we're allowed to give them a $100-$150 store gift card, not with Apple. When someone is buying any other phone, we're allowed to haggle on the price, with Apple it's $159.99 for a 16GB 4S or GTFO. I don't like paying for apps and I certainly don't like iTunes. I REALLY don't like that my staff discount doesn't apply on Apple products, even though I spend my entire day hawking them to kids with berets and box rimmed glasses so that Apple can make an obscene profit. (Don't get me started on MacBooks either.)

All in all, for me at least, the Apple/Android debate comes down to sheer principle. Even though there are a few pros to Apple, I much prefer the way Google conducts themselves.
[General Questions and Answers] MilkyJoePD:
Hopefully Apple will continue the way they are going (lawsuits and whatnot) and fail miserably. Other than this site (and links from here) I haven't heard anything about what they're doing.

F U Apple.

Sent from my Xperia Play using MIUI using the XDA app
[General Questions and Answers] wilsonj:
i support to android because it is cheep then IOS and also Unlimited Application available on net .... opensource
[General Questions and Answers] Eliranu:
android ftw

**** iphone
[General Questions and Answers] kanagadeepan:
Without a doubt, Android gives more options for tweaking... Is over-clocking possible in iPhones????
[General Questions and Answers] nevrlow:
Android vs ios? Ios is like a toyota camry. Always works.

Android is like a sports car. You can build it up and crash it and rebuild again. Its fun.

Ios image is wack imo. Hi i have an iphone. Im a liberal hippie and smoke pot. I drink starbucks and use my mac to surf the web. Imo thats gay

Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
[General Questions and Answers] modslave:
Apple's advantage over Google is they have one line of phone's to develop for. Android fragmentation is simply crazy!
[General Questions and Answers] nevrlow:
True. One thing android has going for it is variety.

Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
[General Questions and Answers] eraldo:
Dumbest topic I've seen yet on xda Congrats to the OP for utter stupidy.
[General Questions and Answers] MaRc1o0:
You can overclock, but doesnt matter because all apps are optimized for iphone.
[General Questions and Answers] Simba501:
Yeah, there would be absolutely no point in doing it on iOS.
[General Questions and Answers] nevrlow:
Lulzy. Please stay on topic for now on. Thanks

-vabeachfc3s

Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
[General Questions and Answers] afluffysquirrel:
I dont think they are better

Android and ios do mostly the same things in different ways, Android is very customisable, you can change Widgets and themes and if you mod you can over clock and install roms! But iPhone is much more closed, You cant customize as much even with the jailbreak. And There is currently no way to overclock or anything like that with an iPhone. The android hacking/modding community is much bigger than the Ipone's one.
[General Questions and Answers] smallz2k:
I cant say too much about this but i had the iPhone 3.5gs, i found it great to start with-yes maybe atm there is more work involved with 'customising' android but given time, i'm almost certain it will soon overtake the iOs as more people (like me wanted a different phone-i ended up so bored having the same phone) Thats the biggest advantage over Apple theres no options apart from an iphone where theres 100s of Android supporting phones. Apple has a massive headstart as far as development goes...like i say imo its just a matter of time-theres some extremely talented devs coming up for Android (on xda alone). :)
[General Questions and Answers] PhantomWraith:
Well there's a simple response to all this up to this point from my point of view, First off I haven't really heard of a tweak that allows you to add expanded memory (SD Cards) or make your screen the size of my galaxy note (3.5 -> 5.3) which is just been a phenomenal phone. Also if you think that the devs aren't doing enough to make your icons polished how about you become a dev and help out. I get the impression that you want to be spoon fed stuff with little to no effort on your part *which has been my personal experience with every apple user I have ever encountered*(and yes it is my opinion) and lets not even talk about the child workers and the workers who aren't even paid for their overtime while making iphones. I get the impression you wouldn't show up at work to do it for free lol. Long story short you don't think its good enough for you why not help out and make it better for everyone yes?
[General Questions and Answers] fushenghui:
i'am sorry i do a wrong choose. i'd like andriod phone better.:p
[General Questions and Answers] Cookster2.1:
IMHO, iOS devices are for the general public that likes their devices to do what they are told that they would do. Android users are for people who like to have what they want on their devices, not just what the manufacturer offers.

salute to the devs who continue to create beautiful apps for our Android phones....and congrats to Apple for reminding us why we love our Android phones :D
[General Questions and Answers] TH3JUNK13:
The OS is incredibly well built.. But if you use an iPhone you pretty much have an Apple leash up your ass.

"proprietary" is their game.

"Google innovates, Apple sues people"
[General Questions and Answers] ednello:
And the Flash player ???

And the Flash player ??? i think that it´s not possible to view videos on flash player in iphones, is very bad !! :rolleyes: this is so ?? or already have a solution for this?? :mad:
[General Questions and Answers] Ahurasim:
Cause apple have more "legal power" over other companies thats why google cant steal from them otherwise theyd sue like other person said look what happened to samsung.
[General Questions and Answers] Xbugzx:
Im so gonna get away from this topic just because of my huge frustration with anything associated with Apple.
[General Questions and Answers] TeeJay3800:
We don't need to be bringing this up again. Thread closed.