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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Nihonno:
some of you guys seem a bit sensitive here. Regardless of if he's complaining, or asking a reason why things are the way they are (which he did at the bottom of his first post) I believe he has the right to post whatever's on his mind.

There have probably been other posts about this but he probably didn't take time to search. I was actually thinking about saying something along the lines. With me coming from a HD2, you could BARELY keep up with development, but thanks to some of the answers I've read here, it's really informed me about the state of things here in SGS2.

I heard from a friend that the Exynos (sp?) and Snapdragon were two very different processors, but could anyone tell me why the Exynos is so much better at a lower clock speed?

I'm learning a lot from just reading the info put down here so I'm playing catch up. I bought mine 2 weeks ago and rooted it the same night of purchase. I'm really really happy about the way the phone runs with bombardier and the battery life is great too.

OP, if I were you, I'd patiently wait and read things that are posted. There's a lot of info between here and the general android forums. I know it's hard coming from a more developed phone to a new one, but it's just as others have said, it's new so it'll take time. There are more than 3 ROMS here actually and a few kernels. Try one out that you like then roll with it. It'll only be a month or 2 before we probably see solid release candidates of ICS.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AllGamer:
dooms day topics merged

reminder to use SEARCH before posting
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
The snapdragon was made to compete with a8 processors not a9. Oddly enough its better than tegra2 which is an a9 processor. Just because you have faster clocks doesn't mean your faster look at Intel and amd. The reason why it succeeds in getting better battery life depends on the user really. Because the snapdragon s3 asynchronous symmetric multiprocessing. Basically the cpu task are strictly divided between the processors.

Samsung I think is a system multiprocessing cpu. They eat double the data and power as well. But they usually have a sub system which have sufficient enough bandwidth to keep up with multiple bandwidth. Qualcomm I guess trying to save money made a single instead of dual channel. So the cpu and gpu essentially have to wait to use the single line. Causing slower results.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] degeneration:
Ugh, at least the original thread was on topic and not people bickering at each other. When I first saw this thread after the merge I was about to say that I was now persuaded to not get the phone because people were acting like jerks (I spent a lot of time on XDA with my Vibrant and Transformer, I would hate to make coming to the forums a chore).

But seriously, dooms day topics? I was just asking what people thought of development since if I look at it I will see a lot of impatient people asking for more features and a few people saying "MADE MY PHONE SO MUCH BETTER!" but I don't know what it is better than since I don't have the phone. People could have said "I think it's going fine" or "I am expecting it to take off". Although a lot of people did seem to get off topic about other phones.

I don't get why people think that someone questioning a phone is so insulting. Whatever. It's been an interesting thread, later.

EDIT: Not saying that the merge was a jerk act (although piling it on top of mine is not my fave), I meant how people posting are acting (and not all, looks like only 3 or 4).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] drewtang:
Sorry about that, meant no offense, was a Tad bit drunk last night. Seemed funny at the time.

On topic: Cyanogen has been confirmed to have the phone, and slayher is working on cm9 as well. They're just not releasing anything at the moment because it's not working fully yet. I think we'll see development pick up in the near future.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mohkg:
[Q]What happened?

Ah first i got my tmobile galaxy s2 a few days ago and im looking at the dev section and i see that most things like roms and kernals havent been updated for a while ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sn0warmy:
Juggernaut and BeastMod have been updated regularly. The CM7 ROM has been recently updated as well.

However, I agree that it seems to be slowing down a bit. But this really happened when the ICS source was released. Many believe that the developers are currently using this source to create new ROMs or to create a new base for the current ROMs.

Don't let the current appearance of a lack of development fool you. There are plenty of people getting to work on stuff for this phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mohkg:
Oh ok thanxs wait so they r using this time to make ics ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] OuncE718:
As of right now no one knows other than the devs themselves. Most likely the next best thing will be soon to come.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] defconoi:
Which devs can we follow on twitter or g+?

I agree there really isn't much porting or e

Deving for this device. Honestly I think this shouldn't be labeled as an SGS2 since its very different. Is there an international version with same soc?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] OuncE718:
I would follow Slayher if he has a twitter, Cyanogen, Whitehawkx etc. Use Google search and type in the names I've given you and add the word "Twitter" and it should pop up.

There is no International SGSII that share our processor. The variants that share our processor is the Galaxy S II X (Telus) and Skyrocket 4g (at&t).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mr mystery:
And the rogers lte gs2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ryan562:
Slayher mentioned on google+ that he and CM are currently working on Cm9 ICS for the sgs2. I assume most devs are waiting

Sent from a Samsung Galaxy S II t989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] foreverloco:
With all the drama going on in these threads its no wonder development has come to a halt with most devs jumping on the gn... This is my first android and its left me disappointed with a site that was meant for development and sharing ideas to improve our devices has started to resemble Facebook with all the bickering. I might just have to jump on the gn too and hope that all the little immature kids that have caused most of the drama here can't afford to buy one till its available on all carries and they have to use an upgrade to buy.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
Some of them planned on jumping ship to the nexus from beginning. Some already have
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] cashyftw:
Lol your leaving a device because of a website? You're kidding.. right?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sn0warmy:
Yeah right, with Christmas around the corner and all the spoiled kids in this world, I'd be willing to bet that there will be plenty of younger kids running around the GN section as well.

But to get back on topic, I have high hopes for ICS ROMs on this phone. I've read that the GN is extremely similar hardware wise and I remember a dev (Slayher I think) saying that the ICS porting was actually very straight forward with a lot fewer issues than expected. Of course it's all hearsay at this point but one can hope.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] foreverloco:
Thats true but I also think that all the high school drama going on here is also a part of what keeps some of the devs from wanting to continue deving on this device along with the gn.. I now if I had the know how of creating roms, kernels ect and I released something just to have immature kids troll showing disrespect and ungratefulness for hard work Ive spent hours on something for people to enjoy would have me start to wonder why I even bothered sharing my work but hey thats just me.. Still gotta hope that maybe after we get some good stable ports here the development will kick back up the way it should. ;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mintharis:
+1. I agree with both of your posts in this thread. This is my first Android phone and I'm pretty disappointed with the maturity level around here too. This IS the internet though so I'm not that surprised.

Sent from my SGH-T989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
What you say is true.I wouldn't bank on a lot of updates from Juggernaut anymore. If you follow those guys on twitter you'd know. Romanbb has a nexus and is working on that and whitehawx rarely posts anything for gs2. Peolpe ran another Dev out which was not smart since there is not a lot going on here. Our only hope for development to grow is ICS. If we don't get that then this is about as good as it is gonna get
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] foreverloco:
You're missing my point its not because of a website but the development of the phone why stay on a device thats going to stay on a standstill while all other devices are moving forward which I hope isnt the case because I really do like my gs2 and the work that the devs have done til now has been great also the specs on the gn dont really impress me to the point of wanting to jump on it just because its the new thing but thats just my opinion.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
How much of what you say is true and an assumption. Just because people are bashing beastmods devs doeant mean trash others who are not doing anything. Let people decide for themselves and not spread rumors. Its really sad people like you are contributing to the mess. Did you read through the thread. White said no update last week. There may be one tgis friday for juggs. There was one every week since they posted and have three great kernels to chose from. There are other roms and devs that have not updated in months. So why not mention them. Eaglesblood. Dev is supposedly on vacation. Raver has slowly been working on updates. Just ve careful how you word things because people come to these forums to gain honest advice.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] foreverloco:
Yep I know and thats why Ive started to think about jumping on to the gn but Im gonna try and hold on to see if ICS does find its way over here soon.... Fingers crossed and to that I'll take a shot cheers! :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
Thank you. . I think the only development going on ia criticism and bashing that people likebyou who need to get a simple question answered get sucked into the trollfest . Good luck finding what you are looking for :) im waiting patiently too for further development in this forum.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] foreverloco:
Nobodys been bashing anyone on here we've just been talking about current development and hopes of great and amazing future releases.. Lets not turn this thread into another flame fest thats gonna have to be closed too.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
I wasnt bashing though. I was trying to clarify things.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
i just calling it as i see it , im not giving links because you can log on to twitter also and see for yourself and follow all the devs there. And i dont Contribute to any mess i dont know what you are talking about get your facts straight before accusing someone ,i try to help people when i can and IF i can ,if im unsure i say it. And based on what your saying its based on alot of assumption too.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
First of all relax. I wasnt trying to start anything. Second i wasnt assuming bexause i was responding to what you stated only. I wasnt generalizing when i said you start something. I know you contribute and help. Lets just jot let this go "there" okay. :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] wpf54173:
Flash beastmod. Wait for ics. The dev section is bound to have droughts don't sweat it. This phone is too sexy to not have devs.

Unfortunately lots of hate has been spreading through and the devs are suffering from trolling. I fear it has somewhat intimidated them :O

Swyped from my iPhone eater

-BeastMOD

-Supercharged 1000HP
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] defconoi:
Don't know why people are bashing the scorpion processor and adreno 220 gpu, our gpu is much faster than the exynos and mali-400. Approximately 2x faster according to benchmarks at anandtech and other hardware sites. We need some new devs maybe we should all read up on rom development and breed some new Coders. I think in my spare time ill be researching so someday I can produce a few Roms.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
You must of got the benchmarks wrong the exynos annihilates all competition in benchmarks. Except web browser test.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] defconoi:
thats not what I see, checkout the anandtech benchmarks:

here is the Exynos:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/...preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked/1

Here is the T-Mobile SGS2 MSM8660 and Adreno 220 Benchmarks:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2

Exynos:

Scorpion:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] :
Not only is that chart really old the original sg2 doesn't even run 2.3.1 gingerbread anymore 2.3.7 it runs. The test isn't fair a Qualcomm Mdp is for development purposes only. Even anandtech says its heavily optimized in gpu performance.

You have to compare phones meaning a galaxy s2 ours and the galaxy s2 exynos. Andantech said themselves the mali is the fastest gpu out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] big70tom:
r.i.p. gs2?

Were screwed. Whiehawks is leaving g, Melvin got booted. Cm7 is faulty and that dude left. Were gonna be left high and dry. I'm trying to get a phone for acs syndicate on my own to see to get devs here. Our future is bleak
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mikeyinid:
Total bs
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] goonx:
why did you said whitehawkx is leaving? He's just super pissed about it. Can someone explain what's this whole drama is with the update?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AllGamer:
dude, there is a brand new kitchen for you to cook your own ROMs

also there are all those from the ATT SGS2 skyrocket that have compatible ROMs

even if they left we still have Mr X and other guys that are deving for this phone

so, stop with this BS non sense
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] defconoi:
Don't worry too much people will continue development on this device. We'll be getting stock ics as well :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] goonx:
so what's the drama with the new T989 update? Whitehawkx said he's pissed about it. Can someone explain?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bkaltec:
Because theres plenty of devs on older phones, such as my old HD2 now has 3 builds of ICS including CM9.

And we dont see many updates let alone new builds.

We still have time to mature, but we will see how this phone fairs aginst the GN development...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] cavemaneca:
ICS and other development...

Is it just me, our do few of devs care about this the T989?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] InGeNeTiCs:
It's just you. Two CM maintainers are working on a version for our phone. If you're not able to help, the least you can do is be patient.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] iwasblown:
[Q]Who's buying this phone?

I wonder why nobody really bought this phone. We don't have many creators, what can we do to increase the people?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Kent_Davis:
More people need to understand this philosophy

---------- Post added at 11:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:58 AM ----------

I THINK THAT GOONX has two identifies on here - one as a regular member and one as a Forum Moderator ALL GAMER is this legal and ethical?

Just wondering because I have seen him post things as one and then minutes later go behind and lock things that serve his purpose. Does anyone else think this is fishy?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jim93:
This is a just a more subtle we dont have ICS yet thread given that their is obviously development on MIUI and CM7 in the dev section.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Rekzer:
Once CM comes none of the other roms will matter anyways imo. Thats what im waiting for at least. If it doesnt come for whatever reason/rom dev dies(i feel like most devs jumped ship anyways)...then next year ill get an phone like international GSII/new google phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] phreshjoker:
Mostly eveerything is slow at first.. Duh. But the only reason other phones are having a faster developement is because they have Cyanogenmod as a base rom. ANd with a base rom that amazing its always an incredible release. So wait for Slayher and Cyanogen to finish our CM9. Yes they are working on CM9 and slayher didnt leave us.. He just stop deving the CM7 because he wants to focus on CM9. Whitehawkx is a dev with loyalty he would never in a lightyears way leave us without a exceptional reason. So everyone... The turtle beat the hair by going slow and patiently... Just wait.

Sent from AN AMAZING PHONE WITH A FREAKING DENT TT^TT
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
well whitehawx is gone basically and next is melvin with beastmod , tweeted that hes selling his phone so he can get a nexus....smh, dont know why someone would want to pay 700 bucks for a 4.6 inch 720 lcd screen cause thats all that phone has over t989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jeffreynew23:
The problem that we have is that the phone was released too late. There were already versions out for it on Sprint and ATT. There were also other phones on tmobile such as the g2x and sensation where developers were doing their thing. If it were out a little earlier, we might have gained some more developers and retained some as well.if that makes any sense.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Exodian:
It seems to me that the next biggest and best phone gets released every 3 or 4 months. Every time that happens developers move on to the next biggest and best. Android super phones come out way too fast and every time one does dev support gets spread even thinner. In the last 2 weeks I have gone from a sensation to an amaze to this phone and in every forum people have this same concern. I wouldn't worry about it. This is a great phone and even if some devs leave others will show up and some members will step up to become great devs.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
exactly all these guys drooling over the nexus are gonna be doing backflips over the SGS3 ...that will be my next phone , honestly this phone is faster than any phone ive ever had and it has a big screen and a 8mp camera ,ill wait till the next... next big thing in the SGS3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] defconoi:
No joke the development on this phone is like frozen. Nothing at all is happening. No cm9 github updates for the t989. the only development going on is by faux with his kernel and MR X and thats it

The truth is this phone is awesome just not development. The vibrant has ****tier broken hardware and the dev community rocks....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] defconoi:
I think we should start a donation fund for the first dev to get when cm7 and 9 are being actively worked on
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
not....dont think so
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] HRodMusic:
i cant wait for the sgs3, i wonder what that will include?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
google it the rumored specs are friggin amazing and blows the nexus away
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Exodian:
It does look nice. Of course 2 months after its release the new nexus phone will come out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tigerz0202:
yeah but it will prolly be a motorolla
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Melon_Bread:
Why the CyanogenMOD team has already stated a few times now that there will be a release of CM9 for the SGH-989 just have to wait.

It is hard I know [>_<]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Fallen Spartan:
Are you serious? Haven't you learned from the Buddy scenario. Donations threads are dangerous and tbh frowned upon by XDA as the dev is under no obligation to do any work as the phone was a donation, a gift so-to-speak

Unless you find a dev who has prior evidence to back up his claims of doing said work and can provide concrete evidence, then you are mad to donate any money/phone to anyone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Exodian:
Probably. Probably be garbage too.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Jjday7:
That's what I'm saying. All these donations for no work are ridiculous. When someone makes something that's consistently worked on...then donations should come.

I'm not donating for a pipe dream alone. Show and prove first.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ykram:
I certainty hope so. Honestly, only thing I really saw GN having (aside from ICS of course) was absence of bloatware and straight updates from Google. Aside from that the SGS2 looks to be a better phone, imo.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] unlvmike:
You can't base your claim on ONE person. Xboarder would be great to have. Just look at the amaze forums. He also stated he would like to come here. Donations are not frowned upon, they are just that...donations. there are people, like myself who would commit to donating $20-$50 as an incentive to the first dev to bring a stable working ICS rom.

Of course they would not get this money until they deliver if they are not well known...

There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] zelendel:
If you want something for a device. Learn to make it. That is what XDA is all about. Learning to do it yourself. I think this has been lost here as of late. Donation threads will be removed upon site. I normally am not in this section but will be now more often.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TheSeanTeam:
State of Development for the TMO GSII

Just wondering why development has been slow/low for this awesome phone. Not trying to start any flames or anything, but it's been pretty boggling. I upgraded from the Sensation and I see the development for that phone and I must admit I'm a bit jealous. I totally understand get that there's a larger base of Sensation users (since the international versions and US versions are pretty much the same) and that if we had a compatible version to the International GS2 (not to mention some of the attention being diverted to the Galaxy Nexus, BOOO!) we'd have tons of ROMS to flash, but considering how popular this phone has been for T-Mobile, I'd think (hoped? HA!) there would be a lot more development.

In any case, I'm very grateful for the developers we have here working hard for everyone's benefit. Thanks for everyone's effort. I'll continue to be patient and hope that things will get rolling in the Dev forums sooner rather than later.

Happy Holidays all!

Edit: The topic should have been a question. Sorry if it implies me making a judgement on things
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] kriEv:
Just wait for CM9. It's coming very soon. Once that hits, you'll have all kinds of ROMS and MIUI and all!