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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Not inaccurate, just doesn't apply to all models as it pertains to risk level, but for the majority of devices an exploit must be obtained. I can provide examples if you like. Although I have seen your work and have no doubt you know your stuff. A recovery exploit is still an exploit and is just as risky, recovery can brick you if you're not careful, so can hboot and radio security.

Is root not obtained by back dooring the device so to speak? I've had this conversation with devs regarding other devices. As a quick example, HTC patched the Thunderbolts root method and I was quite pissed about it, xoomdev, a dev I respect greatly, told me while blocking root sucks, plugging exploits is the responsible thing to do. This "exploit" was how the Thunderbolt obtained root. The "process" of obtaining root is taking advantage of security vulnerabilities in the device on the path to gaining super user access and permissions. In fact, some root programs tell you to disable your anti-virus before proceeding. If exploits weren't being exposed then all phones could essentially be rooted the same way, different vulnerabilities, different root methods.

Some companies make it easier than others, HTC unlock and MOTO dev for example. In thoses cases you're right, a simple install and or adb commands and you're well on your way, but that doesn't apply to all models and all devices. The Flyer is lucky enough to be supported by HTC unlock (I think), my comments weren't Flyer specific but general. HTC kinda left the door open here but other models required quite a bit of elbow grease.

I AM NOT advocating against rooting. I feel it's necessary for some devices, I have examples there too. I've rooted and ROM'd several devices. And I would NEVER tell someone what he or she should do with a device they spent their money on, although I've suggested a few times ;). Rooting is fun and I love the devs on xda, I've just kinda lost interest in it. It's not just about security that's just one example.

Moving on....I think.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
To each his own
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] CenFlo:
I've gone to the Westfire HC and personally I like GB better. Some of the apps I've restored won't work with HC and just the overall layout of the HC isn't quite what I expected.

To each their own and all that, just an observation at this point.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] butterflygirl:
Yep, we have a countrywide disability. ;)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
Hey, somebody can tell us is there any different between official HC and ROM here?

update is going very slow...I hope that I can receive the update before xmas..

I very expect to use the wonderful pen. Can it come true in official HC?

I really want to draw in SKB on flyer!

and if it also allows me to use whatsapp will be better..but i'm wifi verson, can I? :eek:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
The one in Globatrons thread is official, it's just not the US WiFi version. The Roms will be very similar. I believe the official ota in Europe is gsm based so other than that they should feel the same. The pen does have increased functionality in HC so you should be quite happy in that regard. Hopefully it'll be here soon.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sbrownla:
Evo View really needs its own forum.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mr_pio:
No, until someone actually uses the stylus SDK from HTC in their software, pressure sensitivity will not work outside the native HTC Scribe applications. It certainly doesn't work in Sketchbook, although the dynamic "stroke" function of Sketchbook may make someone think it does.

BTW, having to lift your hand from the screen to draw with the pen is rather uncomfortable. It is the case even in the notepad, where the keyboard keeps coming on if you touch the screen.

HTC itself should take care of supplying a proper drawing app which would only react to the stylus when the user so chooses. That would almost defend the stylus as a useful device, which it hardly is, even under HC.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
So,the pen still not useful in app likes sketbook?even it provides pressure sensitivity function?

I feel sad...

Use flyer on sketch is one of main purpose I buy it...

It seems that it won't be the tool like that, right?

I just think pen can work on other app +sketchbook can provide pressure sensitivity = a useful 7" sketch book....

:(so
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
there would be like 6 members and 2 threads :p
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Lmao, this is funny but true. Contradude has been a tremendous asset to the View community.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GrandAdmiral:
Is it possible that once the US update is available that the same process in Globatron's thread can be used or will is take additional steps?

Sent from GrandAdmiral's phone using Tapatalk.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
That's a question for him but theoretically you should as his process just makes the root and upgrade process very easy. I once beta tested a root method and flashing the final ROM was the easy part, just swapping the signed Rom for another.

I'll be willing to bet he'll have your back when the official drops.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] datamate:
I just buy HTC Flyer today. I'm waiting update to Honeycomb 3.2

I have a question, will erase all data in flyer after OTA update to 3.2 ?

If erase everything, I don't want install anything on my flyer.

Thanks ^^
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] aaraaf:
The pen work wonderfully in Sketchbook on Golbatron's Honeycomb update.

Honest to goodness pressure sensitivity!

Sketchbook was updated on the 24th of November to work with the pressure sensitivity, I've had a hard time putting it down since then.

You have to turn it on in the app's settings.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] extemp:
VS

Oh my, oh my, I honestly don't know what to think after that )))

Could you put a video of the Sketchbook and HC Flyer in action? Not that I don't believe you, but I think many will truly appreciate a vid showing also how good the pen now works.

PS. If the pen pressure support is good in e.g. Sketchbook -- I'll be running tomorrow with the first sunlight to get me a Flyer :)))

Thanks!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
Are you sure :)))

But does it also work on official version update??

I have heard lots of version about it work s or not ,could someone has a confirm?

Thanks a lot. I really need it works. If it not works on official version, I will try the ROM you said.

.:)))
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] WhiteCyclone:
I've been encountering 2 problems since I upgraded to HC3.2 using globaltron's method.

1) Gmail force-closes quite often. (Sometimes I'm not even at gmail.)

2) Unable to download apps when on 3G

Anyone encountered similar issues? Any help on how to solve them will be much appreciated.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Yes, the OTA and any other method of installing HC over GB will erase everything. The partitions are different sizes.

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I have been using that installation for a week and have no problems with Gmail.

My Flyer is wifi only so not test of 3g
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] vezh:
Just for your reference.

I've found out what happened. I updated it, when it was at Airplane Mode. Quote from HTC Support "...the airplane mode actually turn =s off all connections which means that you cannot access your Wi-Fi or Bluetooth or any type of connection so this means that you wouldn’t be able to install the update while it was on airplane mode however it did update and now you have this issue"

Factory Data Reset - unsuccessfull.

So, I will try to reinstall HC, if I'll find official ROM.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] vezh:
Is it possible to reinstall official ROM, if I already updated to HC 3.2?

Any help will be appreciated.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
It might be possible to instill the official ROM if you revert back to official GB first, but you do realize don't you that GLobalTron's latest rooted install IS the OFFICIAL FINAL HC HTC OTA release, rooted ??? RIGHT???
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] s0cal:
Is the update compatible for the HTC EVO View 4G? I just purchased one that was on sale for $235 and was hoping they would offer either Honeycomb or Ice cream sandwich updates for it. Also is there a section specifically for the Evo View?? I only see the Flyer and many other members on XDA are asking the same question.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
SO far , I don;t think there is a version out for the View. It's not getting a lot of love here, but people are asking. I have the Flyer. Search the forum and see what's happening, there's no special section for the View.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] vezh:
Yes, I realize if I will install ROM by myself instead Official Service it will be rooted. Anyway, how can I downgrade to GB?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jah:
Still no update for my UK 3g Flyer :-(
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
When to expect honeycomb in India for 3g flyer?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bsoplinger:
Just thought I'd add that there's an app to hide and show the HC bar, Hide Status Bar. You pick it on the status bar and the bar gets hidden with a swype from the screen bottom upwards returning it to view. Use it on my rooted Transformer all the time.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mr_pio:
Huh! Which version of Sketchbook do you use? I have tried Mobile and Express and nothing. No such setting in Mobile, and I could not find ANY settings in Express (the "i" icon which is supposed to have settings according to the help screens, only leads me to some info pages).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] extemp:
That is obviously Sketchbook Pro 2.0 (24 Nov release date) w/ Flyercomb.

Look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1359140
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Jordibaal:
Hi guys, sorry for my poor english, I'm from Spain and I already have the 3.2 but when the message appears saying "would you download the new version..." i was without battery so I refused the update until my battery were 100% charged...

But now, I've not seen the message any more...

Any Ideas? (I'm not root and the flyer it was exactly like when i bought it..)

Thx guy, i'm truly desperate...:(
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jah:
Go to Settings and choose About Tablet and then Software Update
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Jordibaal:
It doesen't work. Is the first thing that I'been tried.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ovigt71:
same here! not any update yet!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] istarenki:
Same problem, last week I was in the ara without good signal and I canceled upadte. Now I can not update a Flyer on the HC
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
Guys, is honeycomb really better than gingerbread on flyer? I have read that some people don't like it and they have downgraded again to gb. What are the pros and cons of hc on flyer 3g?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] 4dthinker:
The best reason to update is better integration of the Pen in apps and the OS in general.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] istarenki:
I got this mail from HTC

Thank you for contacting HTC.

In regards to your inquiry, please kindly proceed with the following:

Soft reset: Press and hold the power button for few seconds until fully turned off.

Note that any unsaved data will be removed.

Once you turn on the device again, please kindly set the date and time at last year and then manually check for the update:

Menu>>Settings>>About tablet>>Software updates>>Check now

If that did not resolve the issue, please try using the Safe mode:

In order to enter safe mode, please turn off the tablet. Then briefly press the Power button to turn on the tablet. While the tablet powers on, press and hold the Volume down button until tablet loads the OS and "Safe Mode" should appear on the lower left part of the screen

Safe mode is a way wherein you can view built-in applications without factory-resetting the tablet.

Please, refer back if that did not resolve the issue.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
Hello,

- Any attempt to install the latest version (3.55.405.1) onto 3.48.405.1 using globatron's method would reset all data, right? Any way to update with all data saved?

- To rollback GB, running the RUU is the only way after HC s-off?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] echaru:
So as of today 12/12/11, has anyone in the US with Wifi only HTC flyer gotten the Honeycomb update yet?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] CenFlo:
I didn't care for HC at all. The layout was okay, but removing the functionality of the hardware buttons was a true deal breaker for me.

The HC tablet went to the little lady as her Angry Bird machine. I took her Flyer and updated it to the latest Westfire GB (v1.4) and we're both happy.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
The US OTA is not out yet and no date has been given for its release. I have the US Wifi only Flyer You can install GlobalTron's rooted HC stock official release and it works beautifully. The screen layout is so much better than GB and everything works nicely. The stylus is usable in all apps now and the browser integrates your bookmarks with Chrome on the desktop. I don't miss the hard buttons a bit, as they would be redundant on HC and love the new notice mechanism in HC along with the recently used task manager. For me it's centuries ahead of GB and i would never consider going back. Absolutely no complaints. Can't think of anything that is not working better than on GB.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Something tells me you really like HC. Just a guess :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] turmax:
HC Speed and Battery life

Hi,

May i know if the speed and battery life did improved after upgraded to HC or was it worst?

Thanks.

TM
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] The Jones:
Is it just me who thinks the Honeycomb update has been a complete train wreck. It has turned an OK device with just about OK performance into a slow, crash prone, useless paperweight for me.

I just cant believe that tapping on an email in the new gmail app takes about 4 seconds to show the email. That app switching is so clumsy and slow, that the keyboard is so awfully unresponsive, that the HTC widgets are so poorly designed when in landscape....

I could go on, but you get the picture. I have hard reset and that hasnt helped. Just shocking how badly Android performs on some seriously powerful hardware.

Or, is it me and can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] forx:
tbh ive had the same feeling as you and in the end i cleaned it all out with a factory reset and did it,(the upgrade),again.

works a treat now, i sussed theres a few apps that bugger it all up but was hit n miss.

ditched the builtin weather app and use a freebie one (with live updating wallpaper),this has had effect of lots more avail ram(now have on average 380mb free so something before was chewing it up tho still not certain what heh).

have also had quite a few "updates" to things i use,torque obd etc,and things seem very nippy now.

maybe worth a try
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
I have not had any of these issues running hc since the 2nd leak.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
An OTA between releases is a silly messy idea and can cause this kind of issue. Assuming that you want to stay officially supported I suggest that you run the HC RUU and thus to a *clean* factory reset to the HC software and all user data and see if that is more stable.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] tsmetjen:
Were can I find the releasedates for this upgrade? I'm a Belgium user and didn't receive the OTA yet

Verstuurd van mijn HTC Flyer P510e met Tapatalk
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] nuttyprofessor:
Cannot see OTA Update

Hi istarenki did the above work for you? I'm in the same position, saw the update last week, but cancelled it as was on train. Can no longer see the update.

I phoned HTC and they said wait for a week before phoning back if I still don't get a notification...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
I find both HC performance and battery to be as good or better than GB. And the GUI is soooooooooooo much better. I love syncing my bookmarks with chrome desktop and the email program finally lets me do army IMAP, Outlook exchange and yahoo mail all in one app. WOWOWOWOWOWO

PS:

If you don't properly install , then any OS version will wonk you. Do it clean and proper.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] MNE74:
Same issue here with the "not anymore available" update to HC.

Did a factory reset and since then the notification ist gone while my Flyer keeps telling me it's up to date.

I tried the safe mode and date & time thing without success.

A request email to HTC was answered with this:

Thx for contacting ... blabla

The Update is gone for now because you did the factory reset. It's gonna reappear in the near future.

Further questions ... blabla

Looks like we have to sit it out until the noticifation magically reappears. lol
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Sweetpea8472:
Or you can see it the other way around: I won't miss the HC menu bar as it would be redundant on the Flyer. Here we have a device where thought has been put in the placing of the buttons: both on the long and the short side, and then that is completely made redundant because the newest OS (for the Flyer that is), won't support it... Why have those buttons then?

The removal of the functionality of my buttons is the reason why I won't go to HC. I have no need for a "taskbar" on my Android device. I'll get a windows device for that.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] istarenki:
I tried what they says, but without any succeed. I send them another mail and they anwser to me "Wait, if you do not get update in couple of days/weeks send a Flyer to service" lol.

Now I am waiting :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
WHy why why are you waiting.???????????

The OFFICAL OTA is posted here in the forum.

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You really can stop complaining about it if you don't want HC don't get it, The buttons are not coming back and you cannot hide the system bar. The rest of us don't really care if you want an green wall paper or a red one.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] istarenki:
Can you point me where is a download link. Thanks
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Sweetpea8472:
It's not a complaint, it's an observation.

And I tried a red wallpaper (don't like green too much), but it's too prominent!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] istarenki:
I love Murpy Laws lol

Hahahahhaha I can believe.

I downloaded RUU from link and install them. I started reading file but my comp stop worked and I push restart, till I wait to reboot I push on the Flyeer check button for the update and OTA update apear. Lol. Now I am receving official update.

In the Croatia they started update Flyers again.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] echaru:
The Flyer knows that you were attempting something that will brick it. So it lets you update before you've gone too far.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
go to this thread

[ROMs]Flyer Shipped ROM Collection

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1062184

http://www.filefactory.com/f/dd1c2aacb4e9d3c9/

Look for this one

RUU_Flyer_HC_S_HTC_WWE_3.55.405.1_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.07_M_release_226690_signed.exe

This will only work if you have a model that matched the RUU. If this does not work, then you have to install using GlobalTron's method from the development thread.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mfd141:
Internal Memory

I have a Flyer Wifi only from bestbuy, even though it has 16G of internal memory only 8G is available. From searching the internet this appears to be the norm.

Does anyone know if the HC update gives you more available storage?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sc3sc3:
has any wifi-only device received an update yet ?

anywhere ?

thanks
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
No, it does not add usable storage. The other 8GB is partitioned for system use.

No, none of the Wifi only devices are receiving OTA yet, not released. Just install the official OTA using GlobalTron's method. Works GREAT.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sc3sc3:
is this the install thread ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1358758 ?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sc3sc3:
it is the thread

and the method works smoothly

big thanks to the developers !
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] nader1450:
any news for honeycomb official update for asia ?! (malaysia)
[HTC Desire S] rayulove69:
This is my quadrant score with Endymion and full overclock to 1459MHz.

View attachment 805876

So what's your score? ;)
[HTC Desire S] zeekiz:
2089 - 1.0Ghz

2954 - 1.5Ghz

Also theres already two or three of these threads, you should have bumped them.

Also it allows to compare the newer builds/ROMs to older builds/ROMs.

Also just because the ROM I'm running scored higher than yours, doesn't mean which ever ROM I am running is better, there are more factors than a pointless basic "benchmarking" application can speculate.
[HTC Desire S] olyloh6696:
What ROM you on mate?
[HTC Desire S] Eclipse_Droid:
THIS THREAD ALREADY EXISTS! PLEASE USE THE SEARCH OPTION BEFORE STARTING A NEW THREAD

Thankyou;)

Please look here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1267189
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
Has anyone experienced this?

Got a new micro sim from my provider (O2) and called them up to activate it.

They told me to turn the phone off, wait half an hour and turn it back on and it would be activated.

Waited an hour then tried to turn it on.....nothing!

I connected it to the charger and nothing again, no lights whatsoever.

I have not rooted the phone it is completely stock.

Any ideas?

They say they will replace the phone but as Christmas is coming up the postal service is overloaded and they state that it could take 5 working days for my prepaid return envelop to arrive; that being the case I can see me being without a phone for a long time as they will not despatch a replacement until they recieve the faulty handset!

They suggested I borrow a replacement phone from a friend!

I am the only person I know who has a handset with a micro sim!!!

:(:(:(:(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ianford10:
Most of the O2 stores have the adapter to change your micro sim back to a full sized one.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
Cheers Ian, looks like there's still life in my Hero!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ianford10:
No problem, hope you get your replacement before Xmas :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
Update, plugged it back into the charger and am now getting a white LED.

Still can't turn it on though.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] neovisage.HD2:
if you will go to o2 store they should swap the phone for you?only what the store need to do is make one phone call to head office to get the swapping reference number.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Eddy T:
I got the phone through Dialaphone, O2 just provides the access. Tried to see if Phones4U would swap it but even though they are part of the same group it's a no go.

It's like being back in the 80's without a mobile!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
White LED means it's charging. Have you tried vol DOWN + power to reset it while you get the white LED? I've heard that works sometimes.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ronin3178:
Had a similar experience last night/this morning. Fully charged, unplugged from charger. Set alarm clock, had smart action set to put in airplane mode after midnight. Woke up 2hrs after alarm was set to go off. Phone wouldn't respond to anything, including plugging into charger. I used the pwr/volume dwn for 10 sec. A minute or so later white LED and battery icon showing 60%.

I was rooted with some bloat apps frozen, restored all frozen apps, unrooted. I will try again tonight (with a backup alarm) and see how if maybe it was something I had frozen that caused the lockup.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Z4nd4r:
Raza just died? Viva la Raza!