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[HTC EVO 3D] laie1472:
Well there is no original recovery for the Evo3d. That's why you have to load one on the phone to gain the ability to make nandroids,flash custom roms,tweaks,kernels etc. Once you unlock your device "via" revolutionary, htc unlock etc you have a choice between recoveries like twrp,cwm etc. Removing twrp would take away your abilities I mentioned above unless you load a different recovery. To remove twrp you have to run an ruu. Then you will be unrooted with no recovery. So basically there's no point in being rooted if you have no recovery. Also as far as updating and staying current just search the development section pick a rom and read what it include in the channel log. There are more than enough roms out that have all of the latest updates already include. If you choose a sense rom or your rom is based off of sense/stock you can just go into setting/software updates/ and update profile and prl. As far as the radio update is concerned you could update that as we'll from the same place in settings but you would have to take an ota I believe and that would result in loosing root so of course you would have to reroot again. There is a thread with all of the latest Evo3d radios in the development section that allows you to dl different radios and flash them but I would strongly suggest you read and read more before you attempt to flash a radio update or radio downgrade its the one true time were you could brick your device. But nevertheless it can be done with the right knowledge and xda just so happens to have an endless supply.

Hope this helps.

Locked & Loaded

""shooter on Deck""
[HTC EVO 3D] joeykrim:
Seems your question was never correctly and directly answered.

Short answer: To switch recovery's loaded on the EVO 3D, simple, flash another recovery.img file. My application, Flash Image GUI, makes this very simple. Also, the fastboot command is fairly simple, fastboot flash recovery c:\recovery.img.

Longer more technical answer: Recovery partition is large enough to basically hold a kernel plus some extras. The kernel will contain busybox, some other needed tools and a small recovery binary which displays the menus and executes the commands.

If you want to load the stock recovery, it can be found inside of the RUU files named as recovery.img.

Keep in mind, loading the stock recovery will ONLY allow HTC signed .zip files to be flashed, which no developer will be able to produce and will NOT allow adb to run, thus preventing root shell access. Essentially, the stock recovery will lock down recovery mode.

Hope that helps!
[HTC EVO 3D] thatguy11285:
delete updater.apk and the system update will never show up again :) I think it's in system/apps just delete the file using root explorer / titanium and reboot and it shouldn't pop up again
[HTC EVO 3D] jslim38:
easy just install another custom recovery like this one here.4ext http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1560279 enjoy
[HTC EVO 3D] sand1303:
That's what I did
[HTC EVO 3D] mnomaanw:
FYI, there is a stock recovery by htc which cannot be used but is needed to install some updates........it is needed install some OTA updates like the 2.17 one for cdma, no recovery can install such updates......

@OP I have the stock recovery by HTC but it its for CDMA , don't know if it works for gsm....
[HTC EVO 3D] laie1472:
FYI its not needed in most cases. You can run an ruu or flash a fastboot zip.also you don't need it to install the 2.17 update there are aio's with and without hboots. I have a copy of the "stock recovery" cdma as well and have never needed it to update anything.

#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
[HTC EVO 3D] mnomaanw:
I havent said just a 2.17 update..........OTA is the keyword here.

The OP wants to know why he is unable to install the update which is coming to his phone Over-the-Air by HTC/carrier , for which he will need stock recovery IMO.
[HTC EVO 3D] laie1472:
Read the 7th post of the thread. The op asked if he wanted to update in the future what can he do. The ota issue was solved if you read the thread it was just an update notice that was bothering him. Also you dont need the stock recovery to take ota updates you can just run an ruu.

#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
[HTC EVO 3D] saboture:
I'm a little lost. Let me explain what just happened.

1st 3D was having reboots randomly and BSOD.. so I replaced it.

Picked up new 3D today.

It's Hboot 1.50.000 (oh noez)

I unlock via HTC method

(( Now with HTC's method it's my understanding that you can flash a custom recovery and roms, but you're locked on the Kernel that came with your phone and thus no aosp roms/kernels OR if you're trying to flash a sense rom but the rom has a higher kernel than the one on your phone - you're still up the creek))

After unlocking with HTC's method I promptly went into TWRP, wiped everything without a nand backup because if it screws up i'm using my upgrade lol. I then flashed Eternity 3.0 R39.. to my surprise it worked fine. I didn't test if I could OC.

I then rebooted into recovery through power button and then installed the current miui rom, immediately followed by the Anthrax AOSP kernel.. to my surprise I got no errors of any sort, booted up fast as hell, restored SetCPU and Oc'd to 1.8 just fine.. been going for about 15-20 minutes now just like normal.

I THOUGHT I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS GUYS :rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] KB112:
I bet you got a refurb that someone previously rooted. If they used revolutionary then you retain S-off even on hboot 1.50 when the refurb facility repaired the device. Why don't you check if you're S-off?
[HTC EVO 3D] saboture:
It was S-On. That was the first thing I checked while walking out of the store. S-On 1.50.000
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
How strange. Hopefully people will keep coming to the thread and ask the right question. With the right question, the right answer will come to shed some light on what is special about your scenario.

Unfortunately that will not be me, because I have hboot 1.4, thus have less knowledge on the HTC unlock method.
[HTC EVO 3D] saboture:
Hopefully this has happened to someone else. I'm not sure why it happened. :O
[HTC EVO 3D] timezone12:
umm i have hboot 1.50 unlocked htc method and i can flash any rom or kernal i want by just booting into recovery through fastboot its an extra step that takes about 10 seconds with a copy and paste of 2 commands from dos prompt
[HTC EVO 3D] flonker:
Yeah, I'm not sure why there's this myth that you can't flash kernels with 1.5, just need to load recovery in fastboot. Only limit I know of for 1.5 is that I can't use boot manager (if I'm wrong, let me know because I would love to use it). Either way, doesn't sound like OP was flashing through fastboot, which is odd.
[HTC EVO 3D] mnomaanw:
Sounds like after unlocking with htc method you never disconnected your phone from PC and directly booted recovery from fastboot when you flashed TWRP .

So there's nothing new, i guess.

Every hboot1.50 user can flash kernels whether it is sense kernel or AOSP......

You can also use Flash image GUI to flash custom kernels from within the running android environment too.
[HTC EVO 3D] saboture:
So far JUST using HTC's unlock method I'm able to do the following

Flash custom roms through recovery like normal

Flash custom kernels through recovery like normal

Perform Nandroid backups/restores of EVERYTHING

UNABLE TO FLASH A CUSTOM SPLASH SCREEN

I thought this was going to be horrible going from a 1.40.000 device to 1.50.000 but honestly it's exactly like when I used Revolutionary to unlock my 1.40.000 device. And yes - I did leave my USB cable hooked up from start to finish. Hopefully other people will see this thread.

I tried Flash GUI and I couldn't get it to work for me so I guess I'm grateful. I'll check if I can install a splash screen once I post this and edit with the update.
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
You can flash kernels through fastboot. But you stated that you booted into recovery using power button, so it doesn't sound like you used fastboot....

You didn't use the flashimage GUI app, did you?

Sounds strange to me. Did you check the kernel In settings after you flashed? Don't think Its possible for stock kernel to support miui, but I suppose its possible.

Either way, you had something happen that shouldn't have. Either got a kernel to flash in a way that it shouldn't have, or got a rom to run on a kernel that shouldn't be compatible.

Another possible thing....I wonder if the 2.08.651.3 update did something that allows for you to flash kernels now. We know it wasn't possible on the .2 software, has anyone tried it with. 3. Doubt it made a difference as it was supposed to be a security update only.

Who knows. Ill give it a shot tomorrow to see if I can flash kernels without fastboot or flashimage GUI.
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
If you can flash a splash or radio then you should seek out a dev and let them know. They would probably have you do some tests. Might help achieve s off on 1.50
[HTC EVO 3D] saboture:
I tried it but when I booted into miui I got stuck at the boot screen. Miui boots in about 30 seconds or so on a fresh install but I was there for over 10 minutes.

Right now my phone is flashing Eternity 3.0 - R39 followed by Anthrax kernel. I'll let you guys know in a sec.

Edit: Well, the kernel flashed successfully but I'm freezing in the middle of the boot screen. Gonna try another kernel
[HTC EVO 3D] saboture:
Okay while booting Eternity 3.0 R39 I froze up mid boot screen. I remembered seeing a post about it freezing and I found it here and did what he said to do and it all works fine now. This is after I flashed rom+kernel in recovery then rebooted.
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
Yeah. I have trouble with flashinage GUI as well. Funny thing is my issues with it were with miui as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
Good stuff. Did you check to see if you can flash radio or splash?
[HTC EVO 3D] saboture:
I'm unable to flash a splash, and I've never flashed a radio before.

But as of right now I can flash kernels/recoveries/roms from TWRP. I'll try flashing a bootscreen with Rom Toolbox real quick just for extra measure.

Edit: can flash custom boot screens. One thing I cant seem to do though is take screenshots with screenshot it. When it saves it's always corrupted and wont let me transfer the screenshot to anything.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
From what I gather, the questions you have answered still haven't shed any light as to whether your phone is behaving in a matter that is the same anyone else in your situation would experience? If it is still in fact behaving different than what we would expect it to I think the suggestion given to you to contact a Dev would be best. You may end up and be able to help the community achieve a more comprehensive solution to the root process.
[HTC EVO 3D] flonker:
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
[HTC EVO 3D] eboogie33:
could it be possible htc updated their unlock process to allow access to the boot.img without using fastboot?
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
ok. so I finally got around to trying to flash a kernel without using fastboot to see if it would work.

It did not. Like others have reported, it will say that the flash is successful, but when I go into the "about phone" menu, it did not change.

I have CM7 (secretpartymeow) on it now with stock (as in whatever kernel came with the ROM) kernel. Tried flashing infected Anthrax (aosp). No luck.

It is indeed looking more and more like your phone is a bit of an anomoly. I would suggest contacting one of the devs over at TeamWin to let them know what you are able to do.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
Like I said, with my inexperience with the HTC unlock method, I can't be sure what is going on. But if user's like the above quoted can not duplicate your scenario the anomaly may in fact be genuine. Maybe if there was a way to do a complete mirror image of your setup someone can do an analysis to find what is different. I don't think an image like that can be done because too much is dependent on the software that is firmware, which to my knowledge can't simply be just copied and flashed. However, a Dev may be able to gather enough from you to study remotely. Sounds like that's the next step, it isn't looking like there is much hope of duplicating what you have done without having the hardware there to look at, so that would be the next best thing. Find a Dev knowledgeable enough to ask the right questions to find what is so special about your setup. Cool deal, good luck! Keep us posted
[HTC EVO 3D] blingdogg:
I too just right now flashed a kernel through recovery....and I flashed a rom+kernel last nigh... What I do is plug phone in while its on, plug in usb and leave it on charge only bring up the cmd from my android sdk tools folder, reboot to bootloader command and then do the command to start my recovery unplug my usb and just do everything through recovery like normal.... have now flashed a combination of 3 or 4 different things roms+kernel or just kernels only

Sorry bad at directions type what I do as best as possible but the op is right it is possible seems to me I just had to start recovery through the command window

And just for the record this is a brand new fresh in box EVO 3D never been flashed before with Hboot 1.50 had the phone exactly one week now.
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
In other words you used fastboot.....

when you pulled up the Cmd prompt to boot into recovery you had to type something like

Fastboot boot twrp-shooter-1.1.1.img

or whatever the directory to your recovery is. That is using fastboot, which is how everyone else with htc unlock flashes kernels. The OP is saying that he did NOT use fastboot. He simply bored into recovery (without using a pc at all).

That is...unless I am just way off on what I've read on here.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jrex:
This was also my take on the scenario! :)
[myTouch 4G General] THEindian:
So guys, i am running DARKSIDE 4.0 and was wondering, is the wifi hotspot feature in the quick settings area of the notification the one that the carrier charges you for? Or is it like one of those apps on the market...thank:eek:
[myTouch 4G General] kimbernator:
It's in wireless settings in the normal settings menu (Where wifi, data etc. settings are) If you're on T-mobile it doesn't cost any extra.
[myTouch 4G General] THEindian:
.

That's not quite what i meant, but i am on tmobile, so it doesnt cost anything if i just use the stock app?
[myTouch 4G General] jr_718:
No you won't get charged, I use it everyday..
[myTouch 4G General] THEindian:
Thanks...lol, i bet it wont be easy on my battery though :D
[myTouch 4G General] jr_718:
You should be fine..if your worried about your battery just connect the power cord..
[myTouch 4G General] marseillesw:
Were u asking about the wireless adb toggle?
[myTouch 4G General] logicmarselis:
t mobile doesn t charge for the wifi hotspot. just make sure you are plugged in via a outlet or usb bc your battery will die quick.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
Hey guys, after lunch i do make -j8 and in the next output, it shows target architecture as arm-v7-neon.

Our cpu is an omap. Haven't tried flashing nothing yet, build error already on bugtracker, but can anyone share more insight?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
Bump
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Luxferro:
I don't have a lot of experience with this. I played around trying to build AOSP before, and i usually get errors cause I dunno what I am doing lol.

but i doubt there are bugs. lots of people making AOSP roms. probably just user error.

I'd suggest seeing if anyone made a step by step for compling ICS, or ask help from the devs who build from AOSP (paul obrien, peter alfonso, koush, ect).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
lol, of course there are bugs, no software is free of bugs.

although i don't know how to code, i do know how to build AOSP. just follow instructions, it's really not that difficult if you know your way around stuff.

build error i was talking about was reported here;
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] beekay201:
Managed to build by myself. Google helps a lot these days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] iToasterman:
Im calling BS. Notice the terminals are burnt like they were shorted out.If a battery explodes, its terminals don't start burning and melting around there. This was due to lack of care on the owners end. No phone should have that kind of damage from a faulty battery
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] V@no:
What are you talking about? (I'm pretending I didn't read anything about this somewhere else)

You are starting a new topic as if you'd reply to someone else with no useful information nor a simple link to the article...

Photos inside where? What?

:P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] designfears:
THE PHOTOS ARE NOT INSIDE

:( I bet the person was OC to 2ghz
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Camaro1LE:
Where's the link or pics???

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
The previous thread was locked thus this was this guys reply to said thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1370784
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Skysurfer69:
I'd like to get some feedback from this community on what people feel works and doesn't work as far as Dev Opts and other settings they use to maximise battery life.

I don't want this to turn into a *****-fest - because I personally have been getting on average about 15h + a day as a moderate user and think this phone/OS combo is capable of more.

I'm relatively new to Android and while there are posts in other forums none of them relate to GN/ICS. There are so many settings to play with and many of them might otherwise go unexplored and unexplained to a lot of users.

A perfect example of this is something I read elsewhere earlier tonight in another rant-based thread. Someone suggested turning Developer Options> Background Process Limit to "At most, 3 processes". I gave that a try and in both instances I got a SOD (not immediately but I'm thinking it may not be sound advice after all).

Something else to consider might be stock apps which are safe to disable.

Things that are known to work or have a majority consensus will be compiled into a list in this thread.

To make things easier, try use a path to the setting you're talking about: Settings > Apps and suchlike.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kam187:
Thats weird, i've been using that setting all day. I wonder if its an app you have installed thats having its process killed and not liking it. Do you get the same if you set it to 4?

I haven't found much except the obvious screen brightness and setting it to 2g instead of 3g - but that can actually be worse if you have a lot of things syncing often and a congested GPRS network.

Oh and I also have Force GPU rendering on, but i don't think that has much effect.

Good idea for a thread btw.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Skysurfer69:
Thanks. I've heard so many people quote the pitfalls of early adoption (now I'm one of them) I think there may be something in the apps point you make. Narrowing it down is going to be tough I suspect.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
I use the below setting on my Nexus S to get two days moderate use:

Brightness at 8% fixed

Black still image wallpaper

Bluetooth off

Gps off

Wifi at home

Always sync off

Others sync off, facebook, gplus

Yupe, that suits my usage pattern. I dont like to bebothered with emails and social network notifications. If I need them, open and update manually.

Really big boost on battery life. I expect this is the same or better with ICS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Skysurfer69:
Interesting. Good tips gogol.

Yesterday/today I managed to get 1d3h out of the phone.

Admittedly, I didn't put the phone through the punishment I usually subject it to.

I never enable BT, and also turn down the brightness on my screen to about 10%. I do leave sync on but try to limit it to necessary apps only and not app contacts.

Yesterday though, I didn't enable wifi at all (didn't need to really, was in the office all day). I made a few calls, sent a few texts and did my usual commute (about 3hours there and back) listening to music (PowerAmp) and messing around with EQ settings a fair bit.

Because I got 1d though, I got in an extra morning (1. 5hours) of music on the way to work.

So overall I'm pretty happy that I can get on average 15h as a moderate user and a ton more as a light-ish user
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kam187:
I updated to the new K6 radio a few days ago and reset the process limit back to standard. I managed 1 day 3 hours with 28% left this morning. I used 2 hours 26 minutes of screen time.

For me the new radio seems to have made a massive difference. I think it has to do with it camping one band/tower for longer and not constantly switching between 3 and HSDPA when there's a data transfer.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] benyben123:
I have recently seen a YouTube video in which ICS was running perfectly on the Nexus S.

Today I saw a story on Engadget.com that ICS is rolling over to Google employees (those all use Nexus S it seems), and the official release is due any day now.

[http://androidandme.com/2011/12/dev...campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)]

First of all, that's cool!

Second, why didn't we all chose to go with the NEXUS S?

Full support, source code in the open, immediate updates....

WHAT AM I MISSING?

Thanks
[T-Mobile LG G2x] raghul:
1.DUAL CORE a smooth as iOS if u may..

2.8 MP CAMERA with Half and FULL HD recording

4.STOCK android(if only g2x had not been with tegra 2 ICS ports would have been very very early for this device)

5.Awesome Build not as plasticy as NS

6.Tegra GAMES(official nor using plugins),

7.HDMI OUT and etc etc...

NS has only one advantage... quicker updates....nothin more literally.

just my thoughts. :)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] lotherius:
I already had a Vibrant and wanted something faster. Nexus S was basically a Vibrant with better software and LESS storage.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] benyben123:
Thanks. Are you suggesting that the Nexus S is SLOWER than the G2x?

Ok, so you right. Because I had a Vibrant as well, and did notice just how fast the G2x is. B-U-T, isn't ICS going to change that?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jboxer:
You don't choose a Nexus S because Samsung devices suck. Problematic hardware and questionable firmware. Nexus S is also a single core device and is basically a slightly updated Galaxy S device. Also, if they do a lower power shutdown the internal sd can get corrupted and if you have not previously unlocked the bootloader there is nothing you can do to fix the device and it is permanently soft bricked (has to be sent to Samsung for warranty replacement). The G2X is a far superior device.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] lotherius:
Too right, jboxer..... Although I liked certain things about my Vibrant, there were plenty I didn't. The thing I liked the MOST was the 16gb (12 usable) internal storage + SD Card, and the Nexus S took away the SD Card's additional storage.

And, we are CERTAINLY suggesting the Nexus S is slower than the G2X... single core processor for one... slower Ram if I'm not mistaken as well. Camera quality is worse.

And, ICS may be nice, but it isn't going to turn sow's ears into silk. That is, it won't make a phone any faster than it already is.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] LordButtersI:
Have you looked at what ICS really is? As I in what it legitimately does that gingerbread doesn't?

Aside from looks (which are replicable with themes) its not that much.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jboxer:
ICS will fully implement multi-thread processing, which Gingerbread doesn't do. That alone should speed up multi-core devices quite a bit. In Gingerbread the dual cores are inefficiently used.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mingkee:
I have both and I say both are GREAT.

NS has the very best speaker like other Samsung models, and voice quality is decent (not badly compressed like other Samsung)

AMOLED + Voodoo are prefect combination and I fine tuned the screen to perfection.

G2x with Eagleblood 2.4 is GOOD even there are few minor bugs.

It is VERY FAST (2500 on quadrant)

Good color screen (bleeding is minimal)

5GB+SD (I have not tried FAT64 FS microSDXC yet as it's not commercially available).

720p video recording (Google app)