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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Johnmcl7:
I don't see the point in the comparison, a lot of it is based on the software and given the Note is getting ics that all immediately becomes invalid. I don't see it as extremely close when the Note has a faster CPU, much faster graphics card, expandable memory (a huge omission from the Nexus), much bigger battery, better camera, the stylus and a functioning volume rocker. The Nexus is slightly more pocket able (the smaller screen isn't an advantage for everyone though) and ice cream sandwich the latter of which will be matched when other phones get their upgrades. Personally I prefer a mature Android os for now with the option to upgrade later when ice cream sandwich is past its early teething issues.

I'm surprised so many corners were cut on the Nexus particularly when the piece hasn't been but more surprised that reviewers are OK with those chabges .
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] seepage:
agreed

Also my vellamo score was much higher than the nexus. 985

Most of the benchmarks for the note on the internet seem very low.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] randypurcz:
Well,

I have the GN now, just sold my 2nd Note. Regardless of what the specification comparison is, the Nexus is just plain faster. Yes, the screen is fantastic on the Note. I don't know if you have had time to use an Iphone 4S, but the GN is like a giant screen version. The screen and speed make it a winner for me. ICS is nice, but it has some quirks / bugs to work out.

I would love a mini-tablet like the Note, same specs and a slightly larger screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] seepage:
So not sure what you are saying there.

Do you prefer the note or the Nexus?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
That's okay. No problem. You can move along I guess then :)

Others have said this too. The only thing I would say, I had to disable a few tests as they weren't compatible with ICS at this point (the finger tests and network test I think for example). Others have said this did bring down their Note score somewhat, to around 700.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] randypurcz:
I have to say the Nexus wins for me.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Generally, in this case the decision of which device someone wants would be more about the size than the speed and fluidity of the interface anyway.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] GuestX0057:
I would normally tend to agree here but for a lot of people the speed is quite important to a point where the speed makes a bigger difference than the screen estate. I don't think anyone would disagree about the Notes fabulous screen but as long as the GT-N7000 will have Samsung bloatware it will be slower than a device that's made by Samsung but regulated by Google (aka the Nexus phones).

I love my Note. I really do, but I also understand the people who

a) feel it's too big

b) feel the Nexus line more attracting

My only real quirk is the memory... how could Samsung (or Google) decide that for a phone of that magnitude 16gb (even less after the OS) is enough for people who both watch movies and listen to music on their phones.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] rnewton01:
i'm sure its a good reason for customers to check out their cloud services (movies and music)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] GuestX0057:
I have thought about this too but the fact is that right now cloud services (mobile in particular)

a) don't give 100% coverage everywhere. With this I mean that 3g/4g still has lots of places to cover.

b) the best way to stream is LTS = super high battery usage

The idea of having your stuff etc. in the cloud is very nice but it's still a few years from being implemented so that it can be used in a regular basis and without eating your devices battery flat in 2 hours. As of now internal memory is still quite important especially for music and video lovers and the new Nexus is a big fail in this department. Such a shame considering the quality of the screen :(

edit:

edited to note about the coverage of mobile internet
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] falconeight:
The note is the better phone.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Goodm7sn:
Great comparison ,cheers for the video.

your comparison will help if there r people who would still say that the nexus was hardware lacking , so in other words , its a proof that they r almost on par and its only the ICS vs gingerbread here that made the difference.

so yeah , knowing Samsung "promised" ICS in early 2012 , then the choice between 2 devices would be a matter of taste and more physical and design related.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] oka1:
Very Good ! Thanks for the Review, maybe I can find my decibel meter and light meter and send you some real tools. The sound and light aren't really all that important, in the samsung codes you can re-adjust them over max or min. settings.

Like I said before, the Note with ICS would be the Ultimate Beast... but we will know soon enough on that.

The other thing I think will tell us more ...is when we get more custom roms.... then we will see the flexibility and strength of these two devices....

Thank you once again, for the review :cool:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] xAnimal5:
You can't compare a phone with ICS to a phone without ICS.

Even WITH ICS, the Nexus is inferior in every way. The 1.2ghz Exynos is outdated, it's got a weak GPU, NO expandable memory (like iphones), and a small baby-like screen.

To the people who compared the Note vs. Nexus, you obviously didn't tweak the Note.

The Nexus has ICS, which basicly means most of everything is optimized and tweaked, the Note is on 2.3.6... you can't compare the two until you tweak it.

Fact of the matter is, the only people who prefer the Nexus are the people who can't handle the size of the Note.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dagobert_29:
I agree with others...

I don't see the point of these tests. When you're running different operating systems, and you know the Note will get ICS at some point, are these results relevant.

Also, with such close scores, it reinforces that these test are rather useless. I did not expect huge discrepancies and this is what we saw.

The debate about the Nexus, and others, when compare to the Note is size and functionality. Are people willing to trade convenience for size? I don't think there is a right or wrong answer it's such a personal choice.

I'm getting the Note but it was difficult decision and I would have loved to get both honestly but I can't justify the extra expense and prefer to do something else with my money.

I appreciate the effort but it left indifferent and frankly not better informed on either device.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] stjs:
I have both the Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy note and I would say that the Note is the better one of the two devices. ICS will be great on the Note.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] rnewton01:
i agree with you as a consumer. I was thinking that maybe from a company perspective, they may see it as an opportunity to attract customers to their cloud services.

although truly I believe that its more that the nexus is a reference device, and future iterations of the Galaxy S line is where the real innovations will be made - as with the Galaxy SII compared to the Nexus S of last year
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Mrglass86:
im not sure if the nexus has it, you can complain about the bloatware but i know i have already got rid of mine, and prefer a little that came with it, my browser was high 900s too. i was on the fence and by far i know the GN is the better of the two choices even without ICS, with it? hmpf, not a chance
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dscline:
"GN" is a bit ambiguous in this context.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Oneiricl:
You mean TI OMAP, not Exynos, right? The Nexus has a 1.2ghz TI OMAP 4460 with a dated GPU... Exynos has the uber-awesome mali gpu :cool: like in the S2 and the Note...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] randypurcz:
Your right....too much time reading over in the Nexus forum.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Personally I don't understand why people keep saying these sort of things. You would never want to see a Nexus against an iPhone 4S unless they were running the same OS? Rubbish. If you want software to not be a factor, just look at phones specs and nothing else.

The two phones are compared as to what you get right now. Yes, the Note running ICS will be very interesting. When it happens I'm sure we'll get more comparison videos, but it hasn't happened, we're comparing what you can buy right now.

As someone has mentioned, many people have bashed the Nexus for not being top end spec, but this video shows it copes just fine, the reason is irrelevant.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Ha ha, yeah, as I said, it wasn't very scientific.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kebong:
i think the point the other guy was making is that it was unfair to compare the dated gingerbread to the recently released ics on both android phones.

you wouldn't compare iOS3 to iOS4 would you?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Yes, if a phone is being sold with iOS3 on it, that's what it gets compared using, of course you would.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kebong:
no you wouldnt because its not like that phone is going to be stuck with iOS3 forever.

the ics is an update, not an entirely different OS altogether. you can't say the nexus is better or even make a comparison between the two using GB vs ICS when your only case here is that the nexus has ics right now.

ICS will come to the note therefore using that as a comparison between the two is entirely moot, as is your argument.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Of course you can and of course you would. If you don't want to pay attention to it, if you prefer to buy on potential than what you have now, that's fine for you, ignore this.

If you want to compare a CPU of one phone to that of another, sure, everything else needs to be the same. I don't. I want to compare right now, what one phone is like against another and tbh it's quite ridiculous to suggest this shouldn't be done.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dscline:
There's nothing wrong with testing the two pones on different OS's, that's the only option right now. But everyone just needs to realize the results will likely be different after ICS.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kebong:
potential? it's not a "potential". saying it has the potential to get ics implies that there's a chance it might not get it after all. that's not the case because it will. it's an upgrade. waiting to happen.

an upgrade. i can't stress this enough, because i don't think you're grasping the concept here.

not based on potential, but based on a fact that the same upgrade is bound to come to the device.

even if you are to compare them right now, you'd still have to consider the fact that there IS an upgrade coming. once again, an upgrade. which is imminent. so if both are getting ics on a definite basis and not on a "potential" basis, then what are you comparing it for?

the only point you have right now is the immediacy of "now", ignoring all the other more substantial points against the immediacy of the now.

basically, your argument right now is purely "the nexus gets points for getting the upgrade first" which, to me, is not an argument at all seeing that the nature of the topic here is which is the better phone, not which phone gets the upgrade first.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] frakius:
I don't see the problem with comparing them on different OS's lots of people do not root phones and who knows how long it will take for the Note to get ICS so it's interesting to see the performance of each one on whatever OS its been released with currently.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Yes, you do, but it's not here now, so the ability of the phone your talking about is it's 'potential'... look it up.

I'm finding it really hard to understand what you don't understand. I think maybe you're now just trying to wind people up in this thread talking about things that don't exist yet, so I think I'll ignore you.

As I said, if you don't want to deal with reality right now, please move on and leave this thread to those that do.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kebong:
but of course. getting an upgrade first obviously gives credit to a phone's capability.

obviously, if a device gets an upgrade first, that means it's better. right?

you're totally right, that makes sense why did i not see that before!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Capability? As I said, you mean 'potential'. Please just move on.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kebong:
capability is what we've been talking about here right? i mean the thread title is Note vs Nexus I was assuming this thread was a discussion for the capability of the phones

but I see now that this is actually a discussion about which phone is better based on which one gets upgraded first

you've been right all along
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] foxmeister:
I think you rather miss the point here!

The Galaxy Nexus didn't get "upgraded" to ICS - it shipped with ICS.

The Galaxy Note will get an an upgrade to ICS, but at this point in time it is not known when that will be so you can only compare the two phones as they are *right now*, and that means the Note with Gingerbread. I don't expect to see ICS for the Note officially within the next 3 months, but I'd love to be wrong on that.

I'm 100% certain that a Note running ICS will be superior to the Galaxy Nexus running ICS, because it does use superior hardware for the most part.

However, even if you do want to compare "potential", but the same argument you can look further ahead because when the successor to ICS is released, the Galaxy Nexus will almost certainly get it, whereas the Note probably won't. When viewed from that perspective, the Galaxy Nexus has more "potential" than Galaxy Note.

Essentially, it is all just opinion anyway - for some, the future-proofing of the Galaxy Nexus may be more compelling that the superior hardware in the Galaxy Note. For me, I tend to look to what the device does today because I tend to upgrade every 6 to 9 months anyway. For others, the continued support for the Nexus range may be of particular importance if they are locking themselves into 2 year contract.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kebong:
when you put it like that, i will tend to agree dave. but i honestly believe that was not his point.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Correct. The Note is only capable of running Gingerbread right now, the Nexus is capable of running ICS.

Nope. I think you'll find your the only one that has even mentioned upgrades. We're all talking what is capable right now.

Tbh, I think you're making yourself look a little silly now.

A very good point. You can't keep looking at what it might be able to do soon, you look at what it can right now.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
My point all along has been 'here is a video of these two devices compared to each other'. It really wasn't a very complicated point. You brought potential and what might be into it...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kebong:
I find it hard to agree with you since you say just very incorrect things. Such as:

"Correct. The Note is only capable of running Gingerbread right now, the Nexus is capable of running ICS."

Wrong. The note is capable of running ICS right now. It just doesn't have it built for it right now.

Capability =! availability to said device. Am I to assume here that you don't know what the word "capability" means?

such a silly goose you are. lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Not really. You're trying to pick on small things to argue about knowing you've lost the main argument. I said it's capable of doing so in the future. I don't think this is particularly incorrect. It might not be the perfect wording, but the meaning is quite easily understood.

We could argue more about that, I don't see the point as I no longer have respect for you or your opinion...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kebong:
Nah, it IS capable of it now just that the availability is not here yet.

You used the term "vs" in your title. Taken literally from its semantics, this thread's aim should be to pit the two devices and decide which is superior based on it's capabilities, and not based on rudimentary standards such as having the latest version of android in it.

While you can judge and give points to Nexus by having ICS right now, that is not in any way fitting to be used as a comparison point when deciding which phone has the better capabilities.

And for reference (just in case you are still confused):
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Ha ha, isn't it funny how defensive this video makes Note owners.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] kebong:
know what else is funny? ad hominem and non-arguments.

;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Bigmille:
This video is pointless for me, all it did was ran some synthetic benchmark tests once. He point out the Nexus is superior in browser test, I'd like to see some real world example such as web page loading, rending speed and pinch zoom smoothness to support the benchmark results.

Most consumers don't care about what type of CPU or GPU the device got, they care more about how much storage is on the device. The Nexus with only 13GB usable space will be a deal breaker for most people. On the other hand, you can add extra 32GB to the Note for less than £30.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] foxmeister:
Virtually all of the reviews of the Galaxy Nexus that I've seen have commented on how fast the browsing experience is. I'm prepared to take this at face value, but in the knowledge that most of the improvement is down to optimisations in ICS rather than anything particular to the hardware in the Galaxy Nexus (e.g. the TI OMAP processor).

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] xAnimal5:
Ha ha isn't it funny that you're a troll. Go back undr your bridge.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
Ha ha, you're funny too.

"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted"."

Me: on topic, giving information...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dscline:
This is ridiculous. If you don't think the comparison is fair, then don't consider it. No need to keep yammering on about it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] highchecker@mac.com:
No comment
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] pjm77:
I just scored 940 in Vellamo.

Even if Nexus is better than Note in particular area - so what?

Even if Nexus is overall better phone than Note - so what?

There is no substance to this argument, it's all about the way you communicate.

Grow a pair, all of you. These nerdish (in a bad way) passive-aggressive girlfights are poisonous both to you yourselves (that's your business) and to the community (that's why I'm writing this).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] rockky:
The main point is: the Note is better. Right?!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] myxcon:
...is better according to the user's need. End of story imo.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] rockky:
Yes and of course that's always the case and forgotten it leads to tons of useless ego clusterfck threads.

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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Daruka:
I am in the Netherlands and currently have the Samsung Galaxy S from Vodafone.

I have flashed numerous ROMS' in the past year and actually downgraded back to Darky's 9.5 Extreme Edition Froyo from GB, because of its build in autorecord function. Also using SPB 3D shell.

I think after Xmas I will buy the NOTE . I have been debating back and forth between SGS 2 and the NOTE.

Seeing as you have both, which do you think is best?

Thanks in advance.

Daruka
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mi7chy:
I'm in the market for Note or Nexus and am leaning towards Note with Exynos due to the larger more usable screen and also MHL-HDMI output which I understand is not available on the Nexus. MHL-HDMI output is key since one of the planned uses for the Note is with an external monitor and external bluetooth keyboard/mouse as a general purpose low power computer, media streamer, game console, etc. Once it gets ICS it'll even be more awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEb-DICYCgg
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AndyCr15:
I believe the Nexus works with an MHL adapter too -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENdJv_AI5vU

The Note is a very large device and quite different from the SGSII or Nexus, that is what you need to decide about. In many ways they shouldn't be compared because of that, nothing to do with OS. Like tablets are different devices, the Note is almost a different device.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] calin75:
I love my Note, but it's really hard to use while driving since you need to operate it with one hand. I love the HD screen but I may have to give up my Note for something smaller but still HD. In at&t the only options are the LG Nitro HD or a Galaxy Nexus. It really breaks my heart but I have dropped my Note several times while driving and I am afraid that one day I will mess it up.

I could also get a hand transplant; I have small hands. :(:(:(

PS: I'm inclining to get the Galaxy Nexus.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dwboston:
I'm on AT&T as well and trying to decide between the Note and the Nexus. I have a Dell Streak and I love the screen size, and don't want to go too much smaller than 5". My wife has a GS2 SR and it's a great phone, but the screen is just too small for me after more than a year with the Streak. I like the idea of the Nexus, but am a little apprehensive about jumping into ICS after my experience with the Xoom and HC. At this point, the first phone to drop on AT&T between the Nexus and the Note gets my $.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mike2518:
Hey man, I understand your concern. If it helps any, I was in the same situation as you. I had 2 Notes in my hand, one from Handtec and the other from Expansys. Both turned out bad, they both had that green tint screen issue that I couldnt stand. Anyways, both went back, and I finally ordered a Nexus from Expansys on Friday. Its next day delivery, so I should have it on Monday!!:D After using the Note for like 2 weeks straight, I decided it was too big for me. I loved the screen space but it was not that practical for one handed use, especially driving. I also knew that for the same price, I was getting more "technology" with the note, like better processor, gpu, camera, digitizer, so it was worth the $700 more than the Nexus in my opinion. But in the end, I read and saw Nexus reviews where everyone swears that its the best phone ever used. So that cpu, gpu, camera etc.. became a non-existent issue for me. The deciding factor for me was practicality and ease of use, and coming from a HTC HD2, I know how much that "one-handed" is important. With the Note it was not possible at all.

I hope this helps you and the other guy who posted after you in making your mind. I really had a hard decision in either requesting a refund or exchange for the Note from Expansys. I, like I said, went for the Nexus, and so should you if you have any doubts about the size and ease of use. It will serve you just fine.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] stjs:
Having both the Note and the Nexus..I can say that the Note is faster and more smooth than the Nexus. ICS will only get faster in time...and the Note will get ICS also. I really like the Nexus but it is not really pushing any envelopes in the speed department. If you are looking for the fastest Android phone out and can handle the size then the Note is where its at.