yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] elitishtc:
Thanks both. I will go like globatron!!

Very sad we lose the hardware buttons (even smaller display) and phone call.

In OTA says we lose that buttons too.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
honey bar works relatively well to gain back screen but you will have no buttons while in use and any menu bar in the middle of the screen becomes non useable because pressing their triggers honey bar
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ICHAPMAN:
So to clarify, the HTC official release is 3.55.405.1? Or did I miss a leak update in Globatron's thread?

Thanks
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Just had this popup on my Facebook HTC Feed about 15 min ago:

Ready for some ‘sweet’ news? The GSM version of the HTC Flyer tablet, available in Europe, is beginning to receive updates to Honeycomb beginning today! Honeycomb brings a ton of improvements to Android on tablets, including the latest version of HTC Sense for Tablet with enhanced Internet browsing, Mail, Calendar and more all optimized for the 7" screen. Not to be outdone, the WiFi version of the HTC Flyer will receive its Honeycomb update soon, too! Stay tuned for more details.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] phumbaa:
Downloading...

32gb 3g netherlands
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
I see you've already decided to flash globatron's ROM.

Just FYI, not sure about the official HC update, but a recent GB update in the US would freeze your tablet on the bootscreen or go to recovery, if you try to flash it on a rooted Flyer. It won't actually flash, and will prevent you from booting until you delete the zip file.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] matthew2582:
Great news re HC OTA soon for US - just snagged - New 32GB Evo 3G - $239 - from eBay Deals here - http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-EVO-View-4G-...ht_1895wt_1413
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] eastway11:
Question.

My flyer is first honeycomb leak and I followed paul's guide.

If I go back to GB(following "Revert from HC with HTC Unlock to GB"), can I get the OTA and update to official honeycomb?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] afu0415:
Can you share some screen shots after your upgrade procedure ??

I'm really interesting in how the "latest version of HTC Sense for Tablet" looks like !

Great appreciation !!!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Widgets are smaller, bottom of screen has honeycomb bar.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redandwhitearmy:
is performance better with 3.2 ?...plz upload pics....or video link
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Sven424:
Hi,

Flyer 3G 32GB in gErmany, just installed the HC update.

- Hardware Buttons gone as proposed in the update notice except the stylus button

- Tethering still works (device is unbranded)

- Stylus works after the first tests better, can't describe exact why but feels more like a real pen...

- 1 VPN unfortunately not working, Android internal is working but kinda lot of taps...

So far so good after an hour of testing. I like the new view even with the honeybar at the bottom wasting some space.

bye

Sven
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] trksab:
They have annouce it officially on their official facebook page: the gsm version of htc flyer tablet available in europe is beginning to receive updates to hc beginning today... Not to be outdone, the wifi version will receive its hc update soon, too...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ojo8:
Does this include the HTC View from Sprint?

There is one for $240 on the front page of slickdeals right now.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
HC supports pressure-sensitive pen input (stock GB ROM does not).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] photog:
Hello, First time in this category. I am a bit naive about the distinction, but is everything that is available for the Flyer in terms of rooting or ROMS equally applicable to the View? I think they are the same hardware other than the cell radio in the View, but other than the cell function (not needed for my uses), is what I read about the Flyer also for the View?

I want to be sure, if I get a View, that I will have XDA support like I have had for my other Android devices.

Thanks!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] gswarbrick:
Anyone in the UK seen the OTA yet? 32Gb 3G unbranded Flyer here (from CPW on Talk Mobile) - nothing so far.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lawguy:
Can anyone comment on how the release version compares to any of the leaks? I would imagine that the experience would be pretty much the same.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ForeverTM:
can anyone post some screenshot or pics of the update?

i'm curios how HTC adapt the Sense UI to HoneyComb :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Nick N:
For those of you who are not rooted and/or s-off and have taken the OTA update, was the Hboot version number updated?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Mich3lin:
Hi, I have just received notification that I can update to 3.2, but I have rooted and sure S-OFF my flyer, but with 2.3.4. So, my question is...do I need to S-ON before I update to oficial 3.2 or it doesn't care?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Should be 1.11.0011
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
Should we be running GB to see the OTA notification? Not in HC?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] neil85ae86:
really?

FYI, pressure sensitivity works.great on my stock GB flyer.

Neil
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ph03:
Will the RUU from that thread work with an un-rooted (S-ON), stock WiFi only GB Flyer or will there be a different update?

I'm currently dowloading the 500MB of

RUU_Flyer_HC_S_HTC_WWE_3.55.405.1_Radio_20.4801.30 .0822U_3822.10.08.07_M_release_226690_signed

but don't want to kill my tab =)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kennyminot:
Just a question: I've heard the pen is universal in HC. So, presumably, it would work with EZ PDF Reader. Is that the case?

K
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] adaimespechip:
Nothing in the UK yet - Any else? I've tried changing date/time ect but to no avail :(
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] gswarbrick:
Still nothing here.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] eugene76:
The pen now acts like a stylus in most applications :)

Sent from my Motorola Xoom using telepathy...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] teorouge:
Sorry, couldn't understand whether you can have phone calls in official HC release. Can you? Won't update until you can.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Sweetpea8472:
I still got time (as I got the wifi-only version), so, time to ask a very important question...

Will I be able to return to Gingerbread if I don't like Honeycomb? (like others, I'm not sure I like that honeycomb bar everywhere, so I like a way out...)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Don't do ota update. Use globatrons method of flashing hc with s off and there is a relativelyeasy path back to gb. Reverting from ota may be more problematic although you may just be able to run your stock ruu
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] NerdDoctor2T:
Hi,

So the hc update is released, but when is the source code released ?

i mean that is the important thing we are waiting for :D
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Sweetpea8472:
That's what I figured... Time to get that micro SD card then ;)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mishko:
Here are some screenshots.

I'm a little bit dissapointed. Dont like HC at all...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] BigChef:
Hello Flyer users. I wanted to ask your opinion about HC. Is it worth installing it if? - i dont have or use stylus (and i'm not interested :)) and is it any better than new GB 2.3.4 version? And is HC not too small for finger typing, and is the screen area not too small holding horizontally because its just 7 inches you know :)

And one more thing i Rooted my tablet after 2.3.4 update :D i didint believe there will be an HC update... :)

Thank you for your help ;)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jeroenpico:
Please help me...

I was running S-OFF, stock flyer ROM 2.3.4., last night I tried to update to 3.2 (OTA) and now my Flyer won't boot (actually, it won't power on at all...) and it started to blink red led. At first it would power on to the bootscreen, were it got stuck.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Parastie:
Who's source code? Google released the source for HC with ICS. I'm not sure if HTC will ever release their code. Have they before?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] YOSEFE:
HTC have done well with HC, but not very well. Their use of screen space it the bad side of HC.

Hopefully there will be an optimised release soon to reclaim lost space.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
HTC needs to release the kernel source. That will be a big help to development with Honeycomb roms.

Wow this screen size thing is turning to be a big issue for some. it has been known since the first leak that the on screen bar would be there, and it is also there for all other HC running tabs. I guess buyer beware if it is an issue for you do not update then take to the forum and complain about it
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Well you can all stop asking about the bar and buttons on HC because it's not going to happen. Live with it or don't its up to you. Some , like me don't care about the loss of of a few pixels on the screen because I don't do a lot of video watching or gaming, so HC is an easy choice due to all of the other improvements. Others are more concerned. If that's a real factor for you, better stay with GB, but then you are confounded because some of the great games are HC only. Still people have written endlessly about this for the Flyer and every other tablet and its not going to change the HC OS, that horse is in the barn. There is nothing built-in to HC to allow developers to change it. Google made it that way, live with it or wait for ICS.

*****************

fascinating .....................

I wonder how may people noticed that Globaltron posted the official HTC Honeycomb release several days back in his easy RUU install.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mishko:
I agree. Too much dead space on home screens.

A question to those who have upgraded and use dolphin browser:do you have any issues? The browser doesn't work well for me since upgrading. It freezes and then I have to clear data and force stop the app to make it work again.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mikeypizano:
Am I the only one who has issues with Office Suite Pro locking up at random?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Black-Dragon:
I had the same problem today.

To return to Stock Rom. Unplug the USB. Stay push on power boutton and volum down.

Your coming on Hboot, choose Fastboot, Plug your USB and run your RUU stock Rom.

For me, how to return to S-On for OTA update ?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] BigChef:
i flashed Globatrons HC 3.2 :) i'm going back to GB :D Honeycomb is really not games on 7", i think i better wait for Ice Cream Sandwich :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] schalmers:
Yes I am having the same problem with Dolphin HD, it is very annoying and it happens pretty much every day I need to clear cache and data and FC to get it to work again temporarily. It is nice to hear I am not alone. I am not sure if it is a HC issue or just with the HTC Flyer ?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] xxxdc5:
Honeycomb is worth just about any obstacle one could possible have to jump through
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] schalmers:
I just did some web searching and it seems the Thrive is also having the same issues with Dolphin HD running HC 3.2.1 here is a link to a thread discussing same issues. Last post states there is a beat version that maybe have fixed issue.

http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/toshiba-thrive-apps/4925-dolphin-hd-browser-problems-4.html
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] theomni:
Its not the fact that you're losing some pixels on screen because of the status bar. The problem, is that they're getting rid of the hard button function. Regardless of what people say, having the hard buttons is a lot more convenient than trying to press something on screen. And I know HC and future builds are trying to move away from any hard buttons on tablet, but hey, we already have them built in, why not just utilize them?

Also, question: I haven't rooted my tablet and and its still S-On. If I did the OTA upgrade, would I be able to go back and root and s-off and all that jazz to install custom roms? Also, is it possible that developers will be able to make use of the hard buttons in the future builds of their roms or is that completely out of the question?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] schalmers:
If you install the official OTA I am not sure you will be able to ever root your ROM, it depends if you can run an older Gingerbread RUU to downgrade your flyer, if this works then yes but if not you will be stuck until someone figures out how to root the 3.2.1 official rom.

Globatron has posted a very easy method to get root and install the official Honey comb room already rooted in the DEV section there is no reason not to do this then do the offical OTA, with his method you can also go back to Gingerbread and S-On if ever needed.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] theomni:
Thanks!

I think I will do that instead!

I bet Globatron will be a lot more dedicated with the updates than HTC :-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
Guess it's related to Flash11. I had the same problems with Dolphin, Opera and even in Facebook, cannot play embedded video. It was ok with GB.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] porcupineadvocate:
GSM calls!

So at least one guy appears to have GSM enabled on Honeycomb:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_bZUwbzjQ[/YOUTUBE]]

Does anybody know how he/she is doing it?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
My biggest complaint about the GB UI was that the widgets laid out in a 4 x 4 grid were huge wasting so much space and making it possible to only get one widget per page. I 'm so much happier with HC's page layout getting more widgets on screen. Now all those whining about wasted space on HC, its really the same, things are just on a tighter grid. The real issue is that the screen on the Flyer is close to 16:9 ratio. Great for video, lousy for laying out square widgets that have to rotate 90 degrees too. It would layout fine for a 4:3 screen like the Ipad but then you would all be screaming that video doesn't look good. So live with the buffer zones on the home pages. That's the price you pay for optimum video format screens or go get a 4:3 tablet like Ipad or Vizio.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] porcupineadvocate:
Alright, the build.prop method for activating phone functionality on 3G Flyers appears to kinda sorta work. The graphics don't appear to have been updated for Honeycomb so the color scheme is screwed up and holding down buttons creates a fascinating effect but it works. Kinda.

I'm not convinced Honeycomb is actually an improvement yet though. Hopefully getting USB OTG to work will improve matters...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Can someone running honeycomb confirm the number of home screens. Please tell me it's 5.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] porcupineadvocate:
It's 5.

Can anyone else running Honeycomb tell me where the task-killer functionality has gone to? I'm missing being able to kill applications from the notifications list in two clicks...

e: ah, found it. It's still in the applications list; they just took away the shortcut.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] tuen:
After reading and considering using globatron's guide to install HC, I have a noob question. How do you check the version of hboot in the flyer? Thanks.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Kubin94:
My device was S-off, recovery and rooted, so can i upgrade into HC through USB Cable? and Is it better than GB?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kenypowa:
I think you have to turn off the Flyer first, then hold the power and volume down botton for like 10~15 seconds.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
As mentioned power off then hold volume down and power till you boot into a white screen hboot version will be listed at top

Not being a jerk but if asking this question you may want to read a little more before jumping in.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kkcheong:
Anyone can check if homescreen is now able to rotate all 4 sides?

In GB with hard key, Home Screen only able to rotate 2 sides that have hardware key.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Still the same, only 2 sides rotation
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kkcheong:
What???? :confused: Why????? Without hardware key, why can't they rotate 4 sides? :mad:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Well sure they (HTC) could have done that and could have done it on GB too, but they choose not to. It iwll likely be hacked into some custom HC ROMs, as it was in some custom GB ROMs.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Farsquidge:
The devs at HTC are all probably right-handed and they probably wanted to keep the still used pen button on the right side of the tablet.

I wonder if they forgot some users are left handed? :rolleyes:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] trksab:
I need to know the order of locations receiving the htc update, if possible.

Here in lebanon still not receiving anything! Even more my GB version is still 2.3.3!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kkcheong:
Malaysia also not yet updated. Probably I won't update since Honeycomb is less stable than Gingerbread. (based on my experience with Asus Transformer).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] abhishekagrawal:
Can someone confirm if after update to HC, we can still send text messages right? Just phone calls won't work?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mishko:
Texting still works.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] iwansuryo:
Honeycomb running very smooth in Flyer. There is almost no buggy thing in here. Short messaging works perfectly. Whatsapp and Viber can be installed without problem. Many specific application for honeycomb, especially for optimizing magic pen, will give more benefit, like Quill, Write Pad Stylus and Adobe apps.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] vishalvifi:
I just got Security update on my BB wifi Flyer. It was very small update and it has updated Software Version from 2.27.1540.31 to 2.27.1540.32.

So are we getting closer to HC 3.2 update now?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] chairmanmeow1:
i had that update a few weeks ago, im still waiting, but then again i have a wifi only model in the uk
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] vezh:
wi-fi???

Hi everyone. I've updated to HC 3.2. I can't connect to any WIFI network. Have anyone this issue?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] butterflygirl:
When I ran an update check, I got this as well. This is an additional update to the one mid-November.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
I got that update as well. What a tease.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Why wait??

just install the official version update (Rooted) from the forum here.

It's been posted for a week.

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=1358758

Or install the Official OTA stock from the RUU thread in the development section.

RUU_Flyer_HC_S_HTC_WWE_3.55.405.1_Radio_20.4801.30 .0822U_3822.10.08.07_M_release_226690_signed
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Two reasons.

1) I'm not rooted.

2) Rather have the US wifi specific version.

2. 5) Shouldn't have to hack my tablet to get what I was promised.

So.... I'll wait, somewhat impatiently :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] tom_m:
When I go to the thread with the ROM... I only see WiFi and 3G versions... But it's a 4G tablet... Will 4G work with the 3G ROM?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] hp3715:
how to Downgrade my flyer to the original 2.3 android

hi! i am new to this forum.

i upgraded my flyer 510e to the 3.2 android but i do not like it and i want to return to the previus version of android

how can i do this?

thanks.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
Same here - I appeciae all the hard work to get a fairly simple upgrade process together, but being the lazy lout that I am, I've decided to wait for the real thing...now ICS may be another matter...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] butterflygirl:
Haven't updated with globatron's HC (although I have been severely tempted) because I want US specific. Love the UK but I "realised" that I want to see my words spelled like "realized" and I want my "colour" to be "color" :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Lol. I believe "more locale ' in the market would fix that but I totally understand.

We do appreciate the efforts of the devs though.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] echaru:
I'm also waiting im/patiently for the update. I don't want to hack my tab for fear of bricking my $300 device. I'm too poor to attempt the hack.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] joebob2385:
It would be nice to hear something about the view as well.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] schalmers:
For anyone interested or experiencing problems with Dolphin HD Browser since upgrading to HC. I have opened a new thread in the APPS section where I have attached a beta APK that is supposed to fix the issue. I received it after contacting their support and they would like us Flyer users to confirm ir resolves our problems

Thread Link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=20079388#post20079388

Please keep Dolphin APP discussion more in that thread instead of this Official HC is released thread
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] forx:
so theres a special dyslexic/mispelt os for the usa?,didnt know that....

chortle...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
As you wish, but it could be a while for the US.

You can easily change the locale to US English with various apps off the market, just takes on click and done. I prefer root because it opens up some useful options while keeping the stock ROM, such as backing up all apps and their data and blocking unwanted ads in apps and the ability to customize fonts, battery gauge, animations, etc.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
I do wish so I'll wait. Been there done that with rooting. The US version isn't far out. Rooting has its disadvantages too, they've been well documented so I won't go into it here.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Humm, not trying to argue with your choice that's your choice but please enlighten us as to the "documented" disadvantages of rooting. That's really the first I have heard of it. If you mean the device might not install OTA, that's not a draw back. I will have the OTA before non-rooted devices. If you mean warranty repair, that's' not an issue either.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Think about what rooting is, it's an exploit, there's a security reason right there. There are pros and cons, I prefer not to root my devices anymore, as do many others.

http://www.phonedog.com/2011/01/05/...disadvantages-of-rooting-your-android-device/

http://droidlessons.com/what-is-rooting-on-android-the-advantages-and-disadvantages/

If you like you can start another thread and we can discuss it there. Why hijack this thread? You asked us why we don't use the rooted method and I responded. Not my fault you don't agree with my answer.

I apologize if that sounds snippy. Not my intent, long day....
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] extemp:
I was keeping the Flyer in sight for some time now.. The only reason that kept me off from buying it, was the obviously suppressed stylus support in GB version.

Could anyone now confirm or discard the rumour of pressure sensitivity support in third-party apps after updating up to HC ROM?

I read through the whole thread here, and there were some claims about that, but either before the official release or still bearing a kind of doubtfulness inside..

Could someone clear the things here once and for all?

Thanks!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
First let me start by start by saying I agree that everyone has a right to do what they want. I advocate neither position in this ( rooting or not ) I have provided support for S-OFF and rooting and tried to make it as strightforward and safe for people as possible but would never push pople who don't ant to down that route. I do however take issue with the (mis) information below.

This is completely inaccurate. Rooting is the process of obatining root. In the case of using a vulnerability to obtain root access on a closed device this does require an exploit, however on an unlocked or S-OFF device it is simply installing additional software that allows for root acess to be used. Depending on the method used and when/where it is applies it may or may nor present a security issue.

A device rooted in recovery mode for example does not provide for an additional security threat in normal usage.