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[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
CWM is a recovery, I think you mean ROM Manager since, if you have 4ext recovery installed you no longer have CWM recovery installed. If that's what you mean then, yes; you can uninstall ROM Manager without any issues.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darklordray:
Yes that is correct I have ROM Manager installed. Sorry for the confusion. I will uninstall it since I no longer use it.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] misfit61871:
You may want to keep it for now since 4 ext is not fully functional on our device. I was going to do the same thing but mad maxx advised against it for now.

Sent from the Morgue!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] darklordray:
Oh what is not functional in 4ext compared to ROM Manager?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chocohagelslagje:
Would like to know that too .. I never use rommanager anymore. Do everything with the (paid) app.

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
Not fully functional? The only thing I still used RM for was downloading ROMs but, ever since the downloads got busted and Koush, for whatever reason, won't fix them, I uninstalled RM and download things manually (nothing like paying for an app and having the developer quit supporting even the free features, eh?).
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] misfit61871:
I'm not sure, but I think it's not reading the internal sd , if you boot into recovery and select info it excludes that. May be other things I'm just going of maxx's recommendation.

He can probably give more detailed info about it.

Edit: I should point out that this refers to the HTC amaze specifically, and may not be the case for other devices. The amaze was just added recently.

Sent from the Morgue!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sib64:
I've these two applications Pro version.

In the first time, I was using Amon Ra on my Hero, and then CWM on my DZ and DS, and now, I play with 4EXT on my DZ and DS.

On my ONE X, 4ext will be installed.

For me 4EXT is much more complete and user-friendly than CWM.

This was the first app to own the Touch version.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] robuser007:
I dont know who else is aware of this but by adding a simple file by the name of ".hidenandroidprogress" you can drastically increase the speed of your nandroid backups/restores. I just did a stop watch on my G2 and HP Touchpad, one nandroid backup with progress shown and one without.

Times are as follows:

G2 w/ progress = 5:53

w/o progress = 2:29

Touchpad w/ progress = 10:01

w/o progress = 3:44

As you can see DRASTIC improvements, more than 50% haha. I had to share it with someone. All you have to do is place a blank file by the name of ".hidenandroidprogress" in your back up directory ie "/sdcard/clockworkmod". I am using 4ext and it works so its not exclusive to CWM. Note that the file name is hideNandroid not hideAndroid.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
No, there won't be any issues. Also you cannot uninstall a recovery. You can only overwrite your current recovery by a new one :)

The reason why it's backing up to these folders is interoperability.

There are apps that expect your backups to be there like titanium which is able to extract from "cwmr backups", which works for 4ext too.

Yes you should have pointed that out in the first place ;)

Mate, why do you make people on other phones crazy about the Amaze version, which hasn't been released yet?

None of the officially supported devices has any known issues and 4ext is fully functional. I wouldn't have released it otherwise.

This is the Z/G2 thread after all where it was released months ago.

4EXT Recovery Touch has no determinative progress, which is one of the reasons it's faster.

This file has no effect on it.

On Classic it's different though, that's also why there's a setting to enable/disable determinative progress in recovery settings ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
Hehe, don't ask something like that on the forums :)

It's a bit too early.. and otherwise.. it's not so spectacular.. but badly needed.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crestofawave:
@madmaxx82 hehe, true.

and that's good enough for me!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] misfit61871:
Yes you should have pointed that out in the first place ;)

Mate, why do you make people on other phones crazy about the Amaze version, which hasn't been released yet?

None of the officially supported devices has any known issues and 4ext is fully functional. I wouldn't have released it otherwise.

This is the Z/G2 thread after all where it was released months ago.

Sorry man, I was thinking that I was in the amaze thread.

Sent from the Morgue!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] c00ller:
Hi, I just noticed something strange with the backup dates... see screenshot below

the time in the filenames are correct but for the Created: fields incorrectly double-apply time-zone correction, it seems. In this example, it says the backup was created April 4, 9:33pm when the time of screenshot (see notification bar) is April 4, 5:01pm.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sib64:
News updates for DZ device:

Update : 2.3.3 => 2.3.4 => 2.3.5 => 2.3.6 (Control or Updater)

Touch Recovery : v1.0.0.4RC3 => v1.0.0.4 RC4 => v1.0.0.5 RC1 => v1.0.0.5 RC2

Let's rock ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
New version: 1.0.0.5 RC2 ( currently testing build 42 )

Parts of the changelog:

Backup folder creation time does now match the configured time zone

Using Recovery Control to queue up actions for recovery without choosing to "stay inside recovery" will now result in a countdown once all actions are completed.

During 5 seconds you can cancel the reboot to stay in recovery mode.​

For roms which include the recovery:

It's now possible to check whether the version you included in your rom is newer than the one currently installed using some simple edify commands (instead of the separate version check binary)​
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neejay:
Nice...the only thing I see that's missing: Need moar Galaxy Nexus (GSM). LOL!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Hmm im wondering why you dont have 500+ Thanks at least for this =o
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
Thank you for the nice feedback :)

New release v1.0.0.5 RC3 online ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Ditamae:
The latest test build (97) seems to address every tiny problem/minor annoyance I've encountered recently... the auto-save of screenshots is brilliant... really, it seems like you've read my mind. ;) Thank you, Max!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sib64:
Hey @Max, change the title of yours OP (DZ-DS and maybee others) ;)

Cheers mate
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
Thanks for the nice feedback ;)

Hey ;)

Normally I only do that once the version isn't flagged as "testing " anymore.. Otherwise a lot of users won't notice that the final build of a specific version was released.

And adding/changing the build number with each build in the title too, would be too much for 12 threads ;)

Edit: that being said, it shouldn't take long anymore. Maybe 1 more day.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sib64:
Ok. No probs Max ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] crestofawave:
Thanks for fixing the bugs (even though I had encountered none of them!)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chocohagelslagje:
I just found a funny translation mistake in dutch :) In English it is (I think)

SD-Card FREE: ...mb

Data FREE: ... mb

FREE is translated to GRATIS, instead it should be VRIJ ;)

GRATIS means that it is free of charge ;)

I don't know who does the translations but maybe you can pass it to him/her or tell me who I should address when I find translation mistakes?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] sgtfoo:
I just wanna get it right...

This is a replacement for CWM and after this, does ROM Manager still tie to 4EXT recovery or does its own app do the same stuff?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sib64:
You could help 4ext translation group Dutch group) by the website Crowdin (look the adress in the 4ext apk).

Swift from Philos One X using Xda Premium
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chocohagelslagje:
Hi will check that. Thanks!

Sent from my HTC Desire Z
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] jethro650:
Its own app does pretty much the same stuff as ROM Manager besides downloading ROMs. Try it out see what you think.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] robuser007:
Why don't you include an option for deleting files (and backups) from sdcard/rename files for recovery ?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
Why I don't add root explorer like features to recovery itself?

This will take 100+ hours when done right.. down there is not Android, there is no framework!

The current GUI of 4EXT Recovery isn't very suitable for implementing that.

Once it got a version increment I'll add things like that ;)

Until this isn't done though, it doesn't make sense do work on adding features like that only to re work everything later on.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
Recovery Control and recovery itself updated ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dwsco:
Odd problem which may or may not be something I'm doing wrong:)

I flashed the runny size fix through the ui and also checked fix permissions in the additonal tasks. Device rebooted, flashed the fix successfully but then hung on the fix permissuins. It lloked like it was doing it but after 15 minutes it still looked like it was doing it! I figure that can't be right so i pulled battery. All was good on boot but i tried it again and it happened again. Is this perhaps a problem with the fix permissions?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dwsco:
Sorry.. using 2, 3, 9 and 1, 0, 0, 4 rc3
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
You have a lot of small files. Most probably from some contact thumbnail sync cache. This can cause it to take ages.

It never hangs!

I'll add output to the screen so you can see what's happening.

sent from a mad droid
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] dwsco:
No need... i was just reporting it in case it was a bug. I've run fix permissions before through crw and it usually takes maybe 30 seconds.. if its normal I'll just be mote patient:)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] OriginalGabriel:
Yeah, an output would be nice ... I jumped on to post a possible bug in fix_permissions because it's been running for 22min now.

Well, apparently jumping on here sped things up :P It finally finished (at 23min) as I was typing.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
I'll do that!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
In case someone hasn't noticed yet:

v1.0.0.5 RC3 is now finally out of testing ;)

New features and changes, please check the changelog.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
How do I install this recovery
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Sib64:
Go to 4ext website www.4ext.net. You can find all answers, and install this :4EXT Recovery Updater

Sent from Philos64 OneX using xda premium
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chocohagelslagje:
If you install the (free) Recovery Updater app from the site you can install the recovery inside the app (it's very easy :D)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
I downloaded the free one but when I click the download it say that it can't open file
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
You might need a file manager.

Please take a look at www.4ext.net/install.pdf :)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
The doenload isn't a .apk
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
Depending on your browser it might have renamed it to .zip

If that's the case, simply rename it back to .apk

sent from a mad droid
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
Can I still restore a backup using 4xt if the backup was made using rom manager
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
Yes

sent from a mad droid
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Mnementh666:
And here is was under the presumption that it couldn't be done. Awesome job. I'd buy it again, if I could. :-)

Sent from my T-Mobile G2
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] nickeedoo:
Is there someone who could put up a video of this? I'd like to see (screenshots even) the layout and stuff before I flash a recovery I'm not so sure of.... not questioning the legitimacy of it, just the functionality.. thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ohshootrawr:
i used the recovery once. i was able to flash superwipe, but after that, i couldnt flash anything xP after selecting a zip to flash, the load bar would just keep on going with no visible signs of progress. i managed to restore my backup. it seemed to work quite well a the beginning though xD
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] killj0y:
Works great for me re-flash and try again. Anyways best recovery no doubt KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!! :):):):):):)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] EdKeys:
The original older version of superwipe will format your partitons in ext 3 format. That could have been the problem. Do you know what version of superwipe that you flashed?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ohshootrawr:
i actually used the 4ext supported superwipe+. after superwipe, i formatted my partitions, and moved on to flashing ics. i let my phone sit for 10 minutes and started watching some harry potter. after dumbledore died, i checked my phone, and there was no progress. i pulled the battery and re-wiped partitions and tried to flash again. same problem. i pulled the battery and tried flashing superwipe again, and still no progress. thankfully i had a backup though xD
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] heybobitsme:
Awesome work! As stated by others, I didn't think touch support in recovery was possible. You are a God among men sir! :eek: So far, I haven't found any problems, although I only gave it a quick test. Flashed and rebooted through the updated Recovery Control app without a hitch. :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] IharpI:
Would be great! ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chocohagelslagje:
:eek: wow this new recovery looks amazing! Only had a quick look but it looked very promising and nice!! Thanks for your hard work on this!! :D Gonna use it with much pleasure :cool:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Nospin:
Well I bought it finally, and you are to be commended sir. It was a little scary booting into something not CWM, but the features you offer are great. Keep it up!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] coredalae:
This is awesome.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] a66fm:
great work i can't wait for the final version
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] BookCase:
Just wow!

**Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running CM7-Nightly using XDA Premium**
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
what kind of safety will be included, incase you forget to reboot after a backup or flash and accidently do some "pocket" wiping? is it not fully touchscreen? requires some trackpad or power button confirmations on certain things? just wondering...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ptesmoke:
A /facepalm would be in order..
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] WTF?:
I am not sure how the classic 4EXT is not "touch" - I just touch the 4EXT icon on my home screen --> touch Recovery Menu ---> touch the ROM I want to flash --> touch the answer to a couple of wiping and MD5 questions, set my phone down and come back to a new ROM installed! :D

so what is the big deal? - lol

what really needs sorted out is this 2.14 vs. 2.27RC5 business, have never figured that one out! :p
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
First off, this is great! Compared to the cwmr recovery, you've added some stuff I always wanted (advanced backup, ext4 conversions) and fixed some stuff that bugged me before (easy pre-wipe md5 check of backup). Thanks!!

Yeah, the hard button confimations are a good idea.

For instance, I was out and about, you know, doing a nandroid, nbd, and I saw someone who asked me to give them a hand with something. I was thinking "shoot....I don't want to put this in my pocket cuz when it's done I might pocket-wipe stuff." it was kind of a random situation, but you get my point.

But thankfully the classic version is available =) still...best of both worlds?

Sent from my Nexus 6 through tears in rain.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] blast0id:
I just made an ass of myself :o
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] G1ForFun:
His comment was not even an attack at you....he was saying if that ever happened then it would be a face palm moment. You have no sense of humor.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ptesmoke:
Yea dudes wound too tight I guess, bet he's got crazy ass road rage if a /facepalm comment sets him off that bad lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neejay:
Something I forgot to ask, will this be for the GSM Nexus (Maguro)? I'm not quite sure how much difference there is in recoveries for both the Maguro and Toro.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
I'm testing on a maguro ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neejay:
Sweet...can't wait.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neejay:
Madmaxx82: screw extra feature requests, I'd take the recovery how it is now :(

I understand though, you have certain standards of quality that you hold your creations to... :sigh:

I'll be waiting though :thumbup:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
Neejay, I'm not working on feature requests.

There has to be a point where I can take the time to improve the core of the 6 months old code. And the best time to do that is before the storm ;)
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neejay:
Yeah, I read your news before I posted that. I completely understand. Thanks for the update though! :thumbup:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] ihateusernames:
Moving from the g2 to the one s I thought I would miss the keyboard the most but I have found the only thing I miss is this recovery. What would it take to get this on the one s? Money? Power? Women? We need some 4ext love.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neejay:
Welcome to the club lol.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] tronmech:
Personally, I would love to see you support the Ainol tablets. Got mine Monday, and the inability to do nandroid backups is killing me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] chocohagelslagje:
I was so happy to find the recovery in the sensation threads :) Had my sensation for a few days stock but was getting nervous and hated it that I couldn't customize it to my needs :D

Sent from my Sensation
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neejay:
Madmaxx82, please tell me that development is going well for the Nexus/Maguro :good:
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] madmaxx82:
All of the above :D

The One S version will be released at the same time or shortly after it has been released for the One X and Galaxy Nexus ;)

It's going well, but the project is so huge, I completely underestimated it.

Now I have spent between 300 to 400 hours on it and unfortunately there's still very much to do.

What you will get though is not the 4ext you have known for so long ;)

I really hurry and try to cut things not 100% needed for first releases, but the core of the code must be complete (most time consuming part) and most if not all previous features must have been implemented before a release is possible.

I might post a screen in a few days that shows some of the progress.

Have a good time everyone,

Cheers,

Max
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Neejay:
Cool, cool. Thanks for the update. Glad to hear you have been actively working on it! Definitely post a screenshot or two please! It gives us a ray of hope.

I keep having to backup, then remember to rename the backup...then if I get distracted, I forget and I've gotten ROMs mixed up and recently deleted my daily ROM backup for thinking it was another one :( I don't like CWM/ROM Manager, but I might have to suffer through it until this is done, since TWRP doesn't have an app to go along with their recovery.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
G2 died

Got amaze

4ext on that

Happy
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] retsek84:
Can't open file

When I try to open file it says cannot open file..Can you help plz
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] :
Its a recovery

Sent From My HTC Amaze
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Silence7887:
Hi

After installing a ROM for an HD in th desire z, the 4ext recovery appeared in place of the recovery-clockwork! After installing another different ROM, i had no longer the recovery! What happened and how was it possible?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] demkantor:
ummm, it isn't... must just be a bit confused...

flashing a rom will never touch your recovery. the only way to change recoverys is with a pc10img.zip or .nbh, or via fastboot, terminal or adb.

I guess you can also do it via rom manager or various other apps...
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Silence7887:
if it was not strange I would not ask questions:D, I did not flash I have not done anything apart to install a ROM.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] demkantor:
not calling you a liar just saying you must be mistaking
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] roubi:
Installing a rom is called flashing...

How exactly did you do the install?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] aishsingh:
sorry if noob question. but I could not find twrp recovery for the desire z, is it available yet? :confused:

or is there only 4ext and cwm
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] demkantor:
not a noob question but a noob place to put the question...

anyway no twrp recovery for the g2/dz but i cant see it being more beneficial then 4ext

dont get me wrong twrp is great (and much better than clockwork) perfect for my nexus 7, but not for this phone as 4ext is superior and definitely the way to go
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] aishsingh:
thnx I'm going to buy the desire z soon I just wanted to know what I can do with it
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
Would there be any way for me to grab, the non touch version? half of my touchscreen is dead, and the touch version is just not viable for me.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] demkantor:
i dont see an image to flash through fastboot in the non-touch thread but im sure there is one somewhere out there. if you have the app then you can just flash it through that, i believe there is one version of the non touch still on there. otherwise maybe someone would be so kind to post an image here for you
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] siulmagic:
yep there was the classic 4ext recovery, in the recovery app, thanks
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] intel352:
Installed 4ext manually via fastboot, to replace cwm. Absolutely fabulous recovery. Definitely worth paying for!
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] aDeQ666:
Can anyone confirm wipe data & clear cache function? Is it working? Because mine are not working. Thx.
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] riahc3:
I have question; Does this besides touch, also support moving and selecting menu items using the touchpad/vol up/down/power?
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] demkantor:
Re: [TOUCHCOVERY] 4EXT Recovery Touch v1.0.0.5 RC 5

I dont think you can, but i dont have my g2 nearby to check so maybe someone else will quick boot to recovery and check
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Phoenix09:
Re: [TOUCHCOVERY] 4EXT Recovery Touch v1.0.0.5 RC 5

No
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] riahc3:
That was a stupid choice then; Could have had the best of 2 worlds....
[G2 and Desire Z Android Development] Ditamae:
Are you saying the recovery is stupid because it only offers touch support?