yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] masondoctorjt:
Sane thing I was thinking. Especially since he wrote vol+:)
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
http://crowdin.net/project/4ext-recovery-control

http://crowdin.net/project/4ext-recovery-control/invite?token=7fb98f3e0607356bc0f39f93bbb6f06f

translate people! the sooner they're done the sooner we get our updates!
[HTC Sensation] trx182:
All strings translated for Swedish, im proofreading them now. They will be complete for the release. :)

For Swedish people: Gå gärna med i gruppen på Crowdin och kolla igenom översättningarna. Ibland blir man lite snurrig av att gå igenom sida efter sida.. hittar ni några stavfel eller meningsuppbyggnadsfel så kontakta mig antingen på Crowdin eller via mail: getback 909 [at] gmail punkt com ! Tack. :)
[HTC Sensation] maschenazi:
I am doing my best with the Romanian translation (is all I can help with), but do we really need to wait for all the languages to be completed before the update ? Couldn't you add some of them at a later date, maybe ?
[HTC Sensation] liamstears:
Yeh I think update should be posted then updates as languages are completed as if not we could be waiting forever for updates
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
anyone refresh their 4EXT? nice little note popped up!

anyone that doesn't already have the 4EXT Recovery Control, might be a good time to get it! 4-24hrs... thats nice! and was said its a huge update, got my attention!
[HTC Sensation] WarlockW:
Yeap Just saw that too ! Very Excited :)
[HTC Sensation] spdrosin:
In wipe menu, when I wipe everything and choose the last option for the SD card, in second prompt to agree with the procedure there is (suddenly and before choosing "Yes" again) the loading icon which keeps loading and loading for hours. I have to pull the battery out and start the wipings from SD card and after that the all other options if I want every wipe to work without stacking. :confused:
[HTC Sensation] grega_slo:
Hey madmaxx82!

Any news on release hour :)

I think I saw a (pussycat) :) popup but I was at work and failed to read it :)
[HTC Sensation] matt95:
looking forward to it :)
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
last one I saw was within 15 hours... 12 hours ago.

there are still some translations that need to be done too. HELP{ PEOPLE!
[HTC Sensation] tangcla:
4ext Recovery Control updated!
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Is there a trick to get it?

The app says I need to update the app to get the new recovery....but the market doesn't give me the option to update it.
[HTC Sensation] WayTooRowdy:
Just uninstall then reinstall
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Yeah I tried that. It didn't work.

Just tells me my options are to open it or uninstall it.

When I go to the app it says there's a new version of the app available and takes me to the Market page where it says I have the latest version.
[HTC Sensation] WayTooRowdy:
so uninstall it first, then install it again! Manual update.

just press uninstall, wait, then when it gives you the option to install, press install and you'll be updated
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Yeah...I did that. It doesn't work.

After the reinstall from the market, it still says there's a newer version available that I need to get the latest recovery.
[HTC Sensation] Shroomster:
Didn't work for me either..... Same situation
[HTC Sensation] WayTooRowdy:
Maybe the update hasn't reached you're region on the market yet then

4EXT have released the update, so android market are maybe being a bit slow on distribution
[HTC Sensation] Skipjacks:
Damn you, global time zones!!!!:D
[HTC Sensation] WayTooRowdy:
What can i say? The UK always seem to lead the way :p
[HTC Sensation] parmijo11:
I live in New Mexico and updated mine about a hour ago.
[HTC Sensation] WayTooRowdy:
congratulations
[HTC Sensation] parmijo11:
Why thank you.
[HTC Sensation] WayTooRowdy:
:D any time :D
[HTC Sensation] Shroomster:
Market just let me update finally.....
[HTC Sensation] tangcla:
It's finally allowed me to update.

WhenI posted, it said it was updated, but hadn't allowed me to update just yet.
[HTC Sensation] WarlockW:
Just Kill Market .. Clear Cache

Kill Market Updater ..

Start Market ... And It Should update Fine.
[HTC Sensation] w_bovine:
Please let us know if you need help in the next World War. :D

Mine updated yesterday and this morning I was able to download the latest testing build. :)
[HTC Sensation] WayTooRowdy:
We're always appreciative of gun fodder!

Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e
[HTC Sensation] w_bovine:
LOL! Good comeback. :)
[HTC Sensation] tangcla:
Not when it comes to equal opportunity and workplace relations!! :p

Horrid, horrid management ethics.
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
And student tuition fees :( :( :(
[HTC Sensation] zx34:
Thanks for the hard work on this app, maxx. I working on the Norwegian translation, want to give you some support on this excellent recovery.....

●● █ ELEGANCIA Rom Series™ █ ●● SebastianFM-Kernel ● 4EXT Recovery ● HTC Sensation Z710e ●●
[HTC Sensation] azwan92:
thanks for this good thing. just bought this app today. hope it gets better :D
[HTC Sensation] pFo-Mac:
Fine work Maxx. It was a tough call to switch from cwm, but I'm glad I did. I'm thoroughly impressed with your attentiveness and responsiveness to any issues users have posted. It's always nice to see a developer so invested in the community. That alone was a huge factor in the switch (no disrespect intended to Koush; I appreciate all of his work). A big thanks for the development and continued support. Keep up the good work.
[HTC Sensation] grega_slo:
Hey guys!

I can offer Slovenian translation if someone interested :)
[HTC Sensation] zx34:
:) For translation : http://crowdin.net/project/4ext-recovery-control/invite?token=7fb98f3e0607356bc0f39f93bbb6f06f

●● █ ELEGANCIA Rom Series™ █ ●● SebastianFM-Kernel ● 4EXT Recovery ● HTC Sensation Z710e ●●
[HTC Sensation] saayinla:
http://www.4ext.net/ site down?

Been trying to access the site fro some time today to no avail, even tried on my phone , connection times out.. anyone else having problem?
[HTC Sensation] zx34:
It's works for me, no problems.... :rolleyes:

●● █ ELEGANCIA Rom Series™ █ ●● SebastianFM-Kernel ● 4EXT Recovery ● HTC Sensation Z710e ●●
[HTC Sensation] saayinla:
Its fine now, was not working earlier I even used an online site checker to verify.

It's not just you! http://4ext.net looks down from here.
[HTC Sensation] skygear:
We are up to 225 already
[HTC Sensation] Snake_skw:
the latest test version is outstanding,feels much faster than the previous one...thank you so much for your hard work :)
[HTC Sensation] lindahl85:
Would you like to add this feature to your recovery?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22832988&postcount=1
[HTC Sensation] Evil-Dragon:
I'm using Boot Manager but I can't imagine it would be easy to implement this kind of feature. Best to leave the job to Boot Manager to manage this kind of feature.

(Plus it could cause too much extra confusion)
[HTC Sensation] D200P13:
since you cant really ask questions in the rom im using listed on my sig, how do i verify im using ext4 on my sdcard?

4ext recovery says that partition is almost 100% free. last time i checked it only had 1 folder but was empty. something like lazylist or lost was the foldername. last time i used ext4 was on the nexus one using an external script that installed all data to it so the phone was reading a internal space of 2gb. on this sensation though it still says the default internal even though ive set it to 2gb.
[HTC Sensation] Shroomster:
I am unsure whether this is rom or recovery related:

I have had the following issue twice now: I placed the phone on my charger at night before sleeping. I wake up the next morning, and the charge light is still orange. (talking over 3-4 hours on charge) I try to wake the phone screen up and nothing happens, the phone is frozen and I have to pull the battery. I see that the battery is roughly at the same percentage as when I placed it on the charger. Any Ideas what could cause this?
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Just creating an sd-ext partition doesn't have any effect ;)

You need a rom or script that makes use of it.

If you boot a rom that doesn't make use of sd-ext, this partition isn't even mounted.. that's why it's still empty.

Not recovery related because when your rom is booted, recovery has absolutely no effect.. not on charging nothing..

I had the EXACT same issue like you with a rom in the past. It seems I have bad luck with my sensation as it can't even manage the standard overclocks over time many roms use
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
For the recovery record :D

recovery is like a second OS on your device.

It's the same as if you dual boot windows / Linux.

Recovery has an effect on your device when you boot into it (obviously)

Or -on devices that use offmode charging like the Sensation- when your device is shut off completely (fastboot disabled inside rom settings and then shutdown)
[HTC Sensation] D200P13:
i am using the rom in my sig. these are features listed...

Improved EXT4 performance by changing mounting method

SD card EXT4 partition support

so from your reply im assuming it should be working correctly? i dont know where to go in the settings and its thread gets about 10+ pages within 24 hours so my reply goes unnoticed.

also view this for what 4ext gives me http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=23120491&postcount=54875
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
This is an indicator that sd-ext isn't mounted.

This is a rom specific question I cannot answer.

If you didn't get any answers in the thread, please join the channel on irc: http://tinyurl.com/6hdkdjj and ask there.
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Dear D200P13, this has nothing todo with recovery.

You created an sd-ext partition with it and it exists. This is all a recovery can do for you.

I've asked Mike. He says sd-ext is only used with some custom kernels.
[HTC Sensation] D200P13:
yessir i received a pm back from him before i posted my last post here telling me its a recovery issue lol. there is no helpful posts about ext4 on the sensation and how to get it working yet the rom says it supports it only with no actual documentation on how to run it. will look at kernels threads in hope they can instruct me on how to use the ext4
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
You must have misunderstood him ;)

If you don't have 4ext touch installed you cannot choose different kernels when you flash ARHD. That's the only "recovery issue" possible. But since you have it, everything is clear.

If you like, flash CWMR, setup sd-ext there and flash the rom again.. it won't work either when you install the same packages as before.

In short: a recovery can only create an sd-ext partition for you. Whether it is used by a rom or not, is a completely different story.
[HTC Sensation] Kirhe:
madmax82,

One more idea... Can you add ability to remove unnesessary nandroid backups directly from recovery. For example, I create new backup, and I can manually delete the old one. That would be great for me.

Thanks in advance!
[HTC Sensation] akamustang:
+1

Also helpful if you don't have enough free space for a new backup, removal of older backups would be an ideal solution

Swyped from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] trx182:
+1 from me as well.

Id like to see this idea and the suggestion posted before, the dual boot thing. That would be really sweet for a flashoholic.. :)

Did you answer that one max? The dual boot thingy, possible?
[HTC Sensation] craacK:
edit: damn somehow i read you want "automatical removal" lol... nevermind

removing a nandroid INSIDE recovery would be like a filemanager and i heard its alot work to enable this .. otherwise we would already have it inside the "choose zip from sdcard" menu
[HTC Sensation] d3vilskid:
Don't know if this feature has been requested, but in redo they have an option to compress backup. Can you add the compress a backup feature to this recovery?
[HTC Sensation] sirbilbo:
Got this update option from 4Ext and I must say this testversion is a masterpiece

It's so fast and smooth.
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Thank you very much :)

Yes, but will require a new interface (I don't like to simply add a new menu item "delete backups")

Will be done, but is a lot of work and so I cannot give any ETA at the moment.

I won't do the dual boot thing.. this is really for boot managers.

Also as nice as this sounds.. it's slow and really not so nice.

Otherwise that would be used by a lot of people.

I wanted to add it already, but I'm still not sure how useful it will be as it will increase the time to complete a backup a lot! Other features like exclude dalvik or cache were more important, so I haven't looked into it yet.

I will do it, but it's not high priority.
[HTC Sensation] Shroomster:
So Max, any update as to whether you will expand to more phones? MyTouch 4g slide perhaps ? :-D
[HTC Sensation] ArmandHammer:
Thank You Max!!!! I used the updater apk on my sensation. It worked flawlessly. Great Work!
[HTC Sensation] moryoav:
Using the updater app, noticed a few things;

1) While downloading the new 4ext 1.0.0.4 RC1, if you touch the screen then the download stops. Why? That's silly. I was towards the end of the download when my screen dimmed, I wanted to touch it to turn it back on and it cancelled the download.

2) There's an "Install" button and there's a "Download" button. If you click download, and it finishes downloading the latest version safely, why does it need to redownload when I click "Install"? The intuitive way is to have the Install button simply install whatever I just downloaded (if such download exists).

Other than that - beautiful work, thanks!
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Mail me please ;)

Thnx :)

seems to trigger cancel when the progress is cancellable like pressing back, will look into that, thanks for the heads-up.

BTW: Your device will stay awake during downloading (although the screen is allowed to dim), there's no need to do what you tried to do.

There's the download-only button for people who don't want to flash it immediately, but only put it onto their sdcards.

This download button was called "download only" for the last months, but to save space ( "download only" takes too much space for some translations, which resulted in 2 rows of text on the button ), I changed it into a download icon.

I understand that this might be confusing.

Hitting the install button on the specific screen of a new recovery version requires -and as such includes- a download (why should I require someone to press 2 buttons that are located next to each other?)

I will think about removing the download-only option completely as by default the recovery.img is additionally saved to your sdcard anyway when you hit "install"
[HTC Sensation] chrisw99:
Posted this on another thread yesterday, but probably better here.

ICS allows the /data drive to be encrypted. This was forced upon me by Exchange ActiveSync security policies. Once it has been encrypted, 4ext can't do anything with the /data folder, mount it, etc. Only format it.

Some of the notes about the encryption I found say:

The /data filesystem must be on a device that presents a block device interface. eMMC is used in the first devices. This is because the encryption is done by the dm-crypt layer in the kernel, which works at the block device layer

Booting an encrypted system.

When init fails to mount /data, it assumes the filesystem is encrypted, and sets several properties: ro.crypto.state = "encrypted" vold.decrypt = 1 It then mounts a /data on a tmpfs ramdisk, using parameters it picks up from ro.crypto.tmpfs_options, which is set in init.rc.

If init was able to mount /data, it sets ro.crypto.state to "unencrypted"..

and so on, so /data is unmountable by the kernel which then does trickery to decrypt it ready for Android.

Since I first posted this, I've upgraded to the latest Android Revolution HD ROM from the stock ROM, which involved formatting and wiping /data. Now, I'm not getting asked to encrypt any more. Maybe the Exchange Server thinks I still have it encrypted, or maybe ARHD has removed the encryption facility, so it's not an issue for me currently, but maybe 4ext should be able to backup an encrypted /data filesystem as it's a standard Android feature now?
[HTC Sensation] bobsie41:
Are you using ics? I would guess yes as this seems to be an ics problem as i have had this when downloading data for several applications. :mad:
[HTC Sensation] chrisw99:
It stops if you touch anywhere on the screen outside the download box, but if you touch the progress bar box, it stays. I discovered this on my second attempt, after I cancelled it by accident like you.
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Usually a recovery needs to be able to mount the partition it is going to backup.

If that partition is encrypted however, it can't do that obviously as it doesn't know about your key.

Also it would render encryption useless if the recovery would decrypt the partition and then create a nandroid of it which could then be accessed easily.

Encrypting the nandroid after it was done is also no practical option.

A raw partition backup is the only viable option in my opinion to do this properly.

This will take a lot longer than a normal backup and use as much space as your /data partition is big (if the encryption is done right, free space is filled with random data so you cannot distinguish areas that are real data from areas where there's nothing.. to make it more difficult to decrypt).

I could implement a raw backup option for that in a future release.

Don't know yet if you would be required to set a setting for that so the recovery knows about that or simply always do a raw backup when data is inacessible..

Simply relying on the fact that /data is not mountable when it is encrypted to detect whether it is encrypted or not is maybe a bad solution because there are several circumstances where data is not mountable because of a hboot change or cmtd on other devices.
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Thanks! will be fixed in 2.2.7
[HTC Sensation] chrisw99:
Another thing, not sure if it's the right place to ask this, but I've been having a look at the .tar files produced by a backup, just out of interest, and I notice in

data\data\com.android.providers.contacts\files

I have 1,842 thumbnail photos of my contacts. I only have about 15 contacts, and browsing these pics it seems to all be facebook friends. Again I only have about 100 facebook friends, so it seems like these are facebook profile pics going back a long time since I first got the phone.

We have all these various wipes, superwipes, dalvik wipes, battery wipes, but is there anything along the lines of ccleaner on the PC to wipe out junk such as this?

From what I can gather, it's just storing all these thumbnails for ever and nothing seems to ever clear it. If I go into settings->apps->com.android.providers.contacts and do a clear data, it does get rid of it, but I lose all my phone contacts as well!!
[HTC Sensation] Stickster42:
Had the same thing but had it happen with other ics downloads too, I should have got used to it by now, not an error with your app just a user thing.

Other then that the New version is great, lovin the hide useless folders.
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
I understand, but there's nothing recovery could do about that. Those things get synced to your phone :/

Maybe there are apps that allow you more control/clean that up.

Yes the default behaviour of the progressdialog seems to be cancel if touched outside.

I have explicitely disabled that in 2.2.8 now.
[HTC Sensation] d3vilskid:
Cool and thnx max, when you do decide to implement compress backup can you make it as an option for those that want it or not.
[HTC Sensation] madmaxx82:
Yes!

Only as an option.. otherwise it would annoy most users.

I don't think most would want to use it.
[HTC Sensation] chrisw99:
Is there a way to delete previous nandroid backups from within the recovery itself? I went to do a backup, and it only just fit on my sdcard because I had 3 other nandroid backups on there too. I tend to connect it to my PC occasionally and just clear out old ones, dragging the occasional one across to PC for an offline backup.

If there isn't enough space, does this recovery give you an option of deleting an old one, or should there be a Delete File option added to the tools menu (could be quite useful for doing a bit of general clean up from recovery to make space for backups if they don't fit, as I tend to have large rom .zips on the /sdcard root too. Could also be useful to delete PG158.. from the card as well without faffing about too much).
[HTC Sensation] stuart0001:
You can certainly delete using 4ext recovery control available in the market. Also by purchasing you'll be supporting the dev of this superb recovery.
[HTC Sensation] chrisw99:
I didn't realise the purchase version gave you a different version of the recovery itself, just the app in the OS?
[HTC Sensation] Shroomster:
Recovery control (paid) and recovery updater (free) are both Apps. Neither app changes the recovery version, the apps just offer more or less options via the app side rather than booting recovery everytime you need to do something.....
[HTC Sensation] chrisw99:
That's what I thought, so my original question still stands.. could it be possible to add a Delete File to recovery, as there have been times it would have been very useful to delete a file in there rather than reboot, do it from the OS, then boot back to recovery.
[HTC Sensation] WarlockW:
Not sure why it would be necessary ..

Currently the only way is to use the: Toggle USB Storage < Option

you can then delete / add files to the sd card or delete old backups :)
[HTC Sensation] Shroomster:
PLAIN AND SIMPLE:

What you are asking for is redundancy.

You can delete nandroid recovery files, and all other files (even system files) from a root explorer app (Esfile, astro, etc.)

Furthermore, the way hboot/fastboot is setup, you must power down and remove the update files from the sd card, before proceeding after updates.

Also Max has said, anything like this would require complete rebuilding from the ground up, in turn meaning less updates, less communication from the dev (Max), and longer time between releases.

I personally think the way it is right now is fine. I like having the few extra steps in between flashes/updates to add/delete files, it makes me feel more like I am controlling what is going on with the phone, like I am helping the process, not just putting files onto an sd card and hooping for the best, ya know.:o

b.t.w I actually sprung for the recovery control. Max is a one man show for this recovery/app (as far as I know, aside from testers). Show him your support, a couple bucks is a small price to pay to keep this recovery up and running.
[HTC Sensation] Abaddon:
Is it possible to adjust brightness in recovery touch? I have 4ext control btw :)