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[XPERIA X8 Android Development] darkvoid101:
have u installed update chargemon v2.zip??go to alfs thread and download it..flash it with cwm :)

press THANKS if i helped!!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Xmaster8:
alfs v7 is not officialy released. and has bug (mount sd card) :) stick to v6 until v7 is released officialy
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] koledok:
I report a boot looping till GingerXperia logo!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] catsado:
had that problem did factory reset and it worked all just fine :) problem i have though is that app2sd aint working at all i have ticked the thingy for it and still it does not work. Any ideas?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] denniz05:
i think you can use it with stock i am not good in spanish but used translate on his blog http://gingerxperia.blogspot.com/ and there is modules for stock kernel v24
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] droidx8:
Why this ROM stoped?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] hchaves:
THANK YOU

this is the best rom i have used...

very fast very stable it's all VERY GOOD!!!

Thank to you all...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] El Brillantinas:
Downloading 24b already. Will use it with stock kernel.

Hope my music doesn't lag anymore and better battery life.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] daddy_rhon:
How bout video recording?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] scorpion 21:
great version of perfomance v24b but wifi not work :(. it says that is connected and have icon but when I open browser it says that is no connection
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] koledok:
Uf! In v.24 I reported a boot looping, in v.24b only a freeze at GingerXperia logo.

I did double full wipe (before and after install) and update Alfs modules.

No results.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
This is a fix for gingerxperia V24b's WIFI AND MOUNT SD

IMPORTANT

DO NOT FLASH THIS update-rom-chargemon+vold++AlfsKern.v2c.zip AFTER FLASHING GINGERXPERIA V24b OR YOUR PHONE WILL FREEZE AT GINGERXPERIA v24b LOGO.

ONLY FLASH IT AFTER YOU ARE ABLE TO ENTER GINGERXPERIA v24b HOME LAUNCHER THEN REBOOT AND FLASH THIS .zip

ONLY FOR THOSE WHO USED ALFS KERNEL V07

I specially made this fix for GingerXPeria v24b cause i could not connect wifi nor connect to pc via usb so i decided to fix it. After some experiment, i successfully created a fix.

THIS update-rom-chargemon+vold++AlfsKern.v2c.zip will fix the wifi and usb bug. Flash it will recovery.

GIVE ME A THANK IF I HELPED YOU !! :D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
This is a fix for GingerXperia v24

IMPORTANT

DO NOT FLASH THIS update-rom-chargemon+vold++AlfsKern.v2b.zip AFTER FLASHING GINGERXPERIA V24 OR YOUR PHONE WILL FREEZE AT GINGERXPERIA v24 LOGO.

ONLY FLASH IT AFTER YOU ARE ABLE TO ENTER GINGERXPERIA v24 HOME LAUNCHER THEN REBOOT AND FLASH THIS .zip

ONLY FOR ALFS KERNEL V07 USER

I specially made this to fix GingerXperia v24's wifi and mount sd bugs.

Flash update-rom-chargemon+vold++AlfsKern.v2b via recovery

ENJOY !!!

GIVE ME A THANK IF I HELPED YOU !! ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] al5911:
Is that fixes really works mate??

I'll try it now. Thanks for the fix/es mate, appreciate it!

E d i t : S O R R Y . . . not working for me. I'm on GX 24b ...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] thu001:
Not only wifi...3G isnt working too it has the 3G data sign but when opened browser its not going anywhere
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
Is that fixes really works mate??

I'll try it now. Thanks for the fix/es mate, appreciate it!

E d i t : S O R R Y . . . not working for me. I'm on GX 24b ...

SORRY :(

I uploaded wrong link. It should be: update-rom-chargemon+vold++AlfsKern.v2C for GX v24b and update-rom-chargemon+vold++AlfsKern.v2b for GX v24 But i had done correction on the link so please try again and tell me about the result. :p

REALLY SORRY FOR MY BIG MISTAKE

To fix market download bugs, install market v3.4.4

GIVE ME A THANK IF I HELPED YOU !! ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] al5911:
Yep, it's working now mate .... ! Brilliant.

You should create a new rom mate :).

Thanks button pressed.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
BUGS

There's bugs in that ROM:

- Single RING Lockscreen doesn't work.

- Status bar is hard to pullup.

- Battery drains like hell (I calibated it, I have no app installed or running and it got to 61% in 8 hours with no use (at night)) - IT IS VERY IMPORTANT

- Scrolling is not very smooth (as it was before)

I use stock kernel on black SEX8 with cypress and without OC.

Why is this ROM stopped? Does anyone here even care about battery life or it is all just about performance?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] ChongWiz:
I heard somewhere the v24 is for nAa kernel too. Is it real?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
Try easy battery saver from market to extend u phone battery life.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] haker007:
Guys,, I have one question. How many internal storage you have after installing GingerXperia 24b? I have only 169 MB out of 212 MB available :/. When I open App Manager it shows that 43 MB are used... Same using stock and alfs kernel.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mohybessar:
BUG

1 - Can't move applications to SD Card

Error : failed to move

2- Xloud bug

Running V24b with stock kernel + GXModules

-----

another question

can I flash alfas kernel directly by flash tool or should I delete the files in system\lib\modules first ?? and which version is stable and fast ??
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Papun:
Try again Move to sd card and it will be work :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] darkfrmr:
for "status bar hard to pull up" try this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1364045 look for "stock kernel"
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] xperiafan13:
This rom is only for alfs kernel

Sorry guys, but this rom is only for als kernel v6, with v7 app2sd not work, this is a bug from kernel, the wifi and 3g work good with alfs kernel, the single ring lockscreen not work, sorry is a bug from my gingerxperia
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
How about the battery? :) It makes me cry and want to cut my pulses. x)

It drained 30% in 6 hours with NO use (really no use), while I get drain 30% in 20-25hours with normal use when I use FroyoPro
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] droidx8:
Try lower or no OC or wipe battery stats or a battery saver app.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
I don't use any OC, I already wiped battery stats as I said before. I thing someone should develop the ROM not for performance, but for stability and battery life (with new 2.3 features. )

Why develop ROMs for playing HD games if we have no much battery life? With OC and all this stuff, battery gets worse, so why insist in playing HD games?

I would love having 2.3 on my x8 with battery that lasts 2-3 days with normal use (25 - 50 sms, 30 mins of phone call, 1h of music, 20 mins of playing and 20 mins of surfing using wi-fi) Today, I charged GX, used phone +/- 10 mins and voilá: 58% in 10 hours. (I didn't played, listen to music or anything else).

I love GX, it's best 2.3 ROM for me, I told that to xperiafan13 since version 4 of GingerXperia, I even made wallpapers for GX (xperiafan13 didn't use them :( ). But battery life just force me to go back to 2.2 Froyo Pro and it is sad :(
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
My battery only drop 5% after 7hours 30min (without using). Oc 729mhz,smartass v2. Using ad task killer pro only. Kill interval per 1hour with crazy mode, installed some games.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
So maybe x8 has different types of batteries? Because mine drops very quickly (and I bought x8 this summer.)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
Did u use any task killer?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
Yes I use Advanced Task Killer. But as I said, I didn't use phone and any program on it. I just installed ROM, charged batt until 100%, calibated the battery and let it stand by. It ate 50% in 10 hours, I think it is not normal, since my phone is new and with Froyo Pro it stays 2-3 days with normal use and 4-5 days with no use (stand by).
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
Got try uncheck some not important settings? Example bottom status bar or gps and more?

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This rom got one bug. Sometimes it become super lag even games also super laggy but fixed after reboot.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Sentrax123:
The performance is very good, but battery life is just...Awful. I charge my phone 2 times a day! Moving to another rom..

-Peace.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
I always use my ROM with minimalistic configuration (no animations, no gps, no wi-fi, 2g, no background data, data traffic desabled, etc...)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] merlinolillo:
The trick doesn't work at me. Is there a fix?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
Antique_Angel:Try activate silent mode when not in use and clear some unused apk in system/app using root explorer then fully charge u phone and dun touch it for 1hour or more and check the result. Better do it at night.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mohybessar:
Bug

Mount to SD card bug when trying to flash the update module zip by xrecovery or CWM

E : can't mount

running v24b + alfas kernel v6 uncapped

should I flash another version of the kernel ??

Edited upgraded to alfas v7 and still the bug
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
But this batt drain is not normal, right?

Ok, I'll try it. Thanks mate!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
Mount to SD card bug when trying to flash the update module zip by xrecovery or CWM

E : can't mount

running v24b + alfas kernel v6 uncapped

should I flash another version of the kernel ??

Edited upgraded to alfas v7 and still the bug

Did u flash update-rom-chargemon+vold++AlfsKern.v2.zip after u flash alfs kernel?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] fjw0803:
Reboot to xrecovery mode is not working...why??? :(
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mohybessar:
No I haven't

IMPORTANT

DO NOT FLASH THIS update-rom-chargemon+vold++AlfsKern.v2c.zip AFTER FLASHING GINGERXPERIA V24b OR YOUR PHONE WILL FREEZE AT GINGERXPERIA v24b LOGO.

ONLY FLASH IT AFTER YOU ARE ABLE TO ENTER GINGERXPERIA v24b HOME LAUNCHER THEN REBOOT AND FLASH THIS .zip

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=22091063&postcount=619

I got confused the post says I shouldn't flash it directly ,, and so when I open the ROM the erorr begins and can't mount and flash updates

and there are 2 versions of updates which one is the correct for v24b and what's the order of what i should do now ??
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] darkvoid101:
try flashing the vold update found at the alfs thread.it worked for me!!!

press THANKS if i helped!!!!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] GunChijs:
Had same problem....try flash nAan kernel ->run alfs kernel update ->flash back to Alfs v7...worked for me ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
STEPS:

1)Download and flash alfs kernel v07 from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1340861. You can choose alfs v07/alfs fps and download the chargemon+vold update v2.zip from the link.

2)Full wipe then flash GX v24b but do not flash the chargemon+vold update v2.zip first. ( I tried flashing chargemon+vold update v2.zip after done flashing GX v24b but stuck at the GX logo for few minute then screen turn black but if i flash chargemon+vold update v2.zip after flashing GX v24b and manage enter sony erricsson home launcher then reboot and flash it, such problem doesn't appear ).

3)After done flashing GX v24b, reboot.

4)After around 1-2 min u will enter Sony Erricsson home launcher then reboot to recovery again.

5)This time, flash chargemon+vold update v2.zip.

6)Reboot again after flashing chargemon+vold update v2.zip

ENJOY !! :D

Give me a thank if i helped you !! :rolleyes:
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] mohybessar:
Not work but thanks :)

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that worked thanks alot :)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] biluwky:
Help

Haiii Friends....

please guide me for flashing kernel Alfs. Which one i use from V7 Wht is the difference between them.. please....

I need to flash GXV24b....

X8_07_Alfs.rar - [Click for QR Code] (4.14 MB, 3219 views)

X8_07-no_fps_cap_Alfs.rar - [Click for QR Code] (4.13 MB, 3191 views)

X8_07-ICS_Alfs.rar - [Click for QR Code]
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
X8_07_Alfs- Not very sure, maybe just normal

X8_07-no_fps_cap_Alfs- Improve your fps in benchmark ( Example: You only get 50fps when using X8_07_Alfs but after flashing this you get around 55fps in benchmark (neocore).

X8_07-ICS_Alfs- Greatly improved 2D and 3D performance and your phone performance and +2 more extra ram from max 181ram to 183ram.

Give me a thank if i helped you !! :D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] ricdem99:
The phone is on stock kernel and I have installed GingerXperia V24B + GXModules to my friend's W8. All is fine except that the ext4 partition in his SD card cannot be detected by the rom.

What can i do so that the etx3/ext4 partition be detected by the rom. I have put ext3.ko and ext4.ko modules in the /system/lib/modules directory and have entry of

#EXT3

insmod /system/lib/modules/ext3.ko

#EXT4

insmod /system/lib/modules/ext4.ko

in hw_config.sh

is there anything else that i need to do?

Strange on my phone i have ext3/4 partition just fine. I will try to do another flash of the rom and module tomorrow.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] droidx8:
No, I think that's enough to make it work.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MeisterRoerich:
for what are are the modules for stock kernel ??

sorry for bad english
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] xperiafan13:
New update

NEW SPECIAL UPDATE FOR nAa kernel
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] junghyun01:
i want transparent status bar!!!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
Has my Dream Came true? there is really no Battery Drain? Someone could try it and tell me something about it for me please? Before I unlock bootloader and install stuff?

Is the battery life the same as in Froyo Pro?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] attack11:
yes ! i was hopping a version with nAa !!! Thanks Miguel !!

Could you put transparent status bar?? it would be great !! thanks for the ROM !!

Sorry my bad english...

Si ! estaba esperando una version con nAa !!! Gracias Miguel !!

Podrias agregarle la barra de estado transparente ?? seria genial !!! gracias por la ROM !!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] deedii:
Kudos to you Miguel. You improved a lot. Im happy for you :) mwah..
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] cumicumi76:
where the download link? I can't find it on first post?

I found IT!!! SORRY, use my x8...

sorry for my bad English....
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] AbirXtreme:
The performance is on par with Minicm7!! Good Job Bro
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] RodrigoOgasawara:
Great,if performance is like minicm7,and have the xperia style,seens perfect for me!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Papun:
V25

with 2 class sd card, 748mhz, ondemand governon ive got 1492 in antutu. this is very poor result but rom is really fast/smooth. no reboots at 748mhz, in system ive deleted some apps and ive got 90mb free of ROM. internal storage is really high 208MB.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] saumilt:
Please port this to x10mini <3
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] droidx8:
lol :D

Really good ROM, no more battery drain and great performance. I never maked arc launcher work on miniCM,so I'm happy :D

But please repost the old links, my friend has 11w34 and he wants use an older version!

thx
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] gxaris:
i am afraid not....battery drain still remains :(

i know cause i am too concerned a lot about battery drain. in 1 hour i got 20% battery loss. No extra applications running, i have deleted all the uselesss crap: facebook, timescape, email, DSP manager etc etc
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MeisterRoerich:
what about special edition fpr stock kernel ?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
But xperiafan13 just said that there will be no batt drain anymore? Is that not truth?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
Wow, really no more battery drain. Lost 2% battery only overnight. But consume much more battery when using browser or gaming.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] milad10:
hello i need ginger experia v24b modules files please send me links

thanks
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] MeisterRoerich:
why did you removed all links for old versions from the first post

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http://ubuntuone.com/2bMsspxGrklLecle1x6KZ6 here i uploaded the gxmodules for you
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
You can find the older version GX from androidforum or GX blog
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
Guys, I need to know if there is REALLY no more battery drain. Because if I unlock my bootloader, install nAa kernel, install GX25 and I will have battery drain, I will kill myself. XD

Come on guys, no cepticism and no fanatism - tell me really about battery life.

Now I use Froyo Pro 2.4 and my battery lasts 2 days with heavy use and 3 day with light use. Is this worth it installing GX25 over Froyo Pro?

Please?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] biluwky:
Its very fast and no more battery drain.. Notes Can't delet :-P no other worries....

Thanks a lot for this update...

Thanks nAa...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] androidnerd2:
will this rom work with nAa 11 ???????
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] ithunter:
could u add all latest cm updates on this rom ???
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] ghost9685:
download link pls???
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] ithunter:
how do i fix autobrightness bug ???? i love this rom but Autobrightness still bug on my cell ;'(
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
The link is under the pictures.

Press thanks if i helped :-)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] koledok:
I'd like flash nAa kernel to try this ROM but now I'm running with Alfs and I can't flash nAa. I flash it, phone seems work well but I can't access CWM, no nAa boot logo.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] androidnerd2:
i think you have to reflash stock rom using seus and then flash nAa kernel...:)

prss thanks if i helped ..:D:cool:
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Antique_Angel:
Guys, weird thing just happened.

I installed GX25 with nAa11. My settings are: 18-600mHz, smartass2, undervolt.

Everything works like honey. :)

So, it charged it until 100%, calibated the battery and let descharge.

It dropped from 100% to 95% (its normal, I know). Then, it descharged untill 89% and stayed (with no use) on 89% for 5 hours. Then I connected it to my with USB and it in 10 minutes dropped to 80%, is this normal?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] nelikp:
where the old download link..

the oled version which one is support stock kernel??

someone have the old link..

wanna install on my poor W8 (11w38) can't unlock
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Killjoy2012:
does anyone know where i can grab this launcher?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] tharindukumara:
Why you dont have Wifi Tether in this ROM!!!!???? :((((((((( How can i enable it!!!??
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Dzol Cp:
Good Job Bro!!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] SinaH:
I can fix usb Tethering on this rom and kernel

just send me build.prop file and I fix this bug.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] farhanzahinfj:
download and flash the baseband15 for E15i/E15a (whichever ur device is)

then flash nAa kernel

look for it here(my mediafire folder containing X8 stuff :D )
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] lsalamun:
Hmm, I flash nAa v10, then I install GX25, then after the nAa logo shows the phone just restarts, tried full wipe, wiping cache, dalvik cache, got back to stock kernel + rom then everything again and it doesn't work, tried even with nAa v11
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] tharindukumara:
PLEASE somebody tell me how to enable Wifi Tether in this ROM!!!!!!!!!! I really Need that!!!!! :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] koledok:
Tnx mate, I'll try your suggest ASAP!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] farhanzahinfj:
Please can u make this rom available on alfs? nAa is not very stable :-(
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] dsaklein:
Sorry if this question was already answered but will this rom work without bugs with alfs kernel? Because naa is quite unstable for me....
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] farhanzahinfj:
i dont think so... it doesnt run on alfs... it gets MEGA LAGS... and wifi wont work!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] chequebo1:
With Alfs for CM7 http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=23200614&postcount=1044 all perfect for the moment.

24h test, and perfect, just misses the Automatic brightness.

I stay with this combination ...
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] gsdiva:
my x8 was stuck showing only sony ericsson logo while flashing

is there any way to enter boot loader

kindly help
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] maliceomalice:
What about wifi hotspot? Does this rom support it?
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] chequebo1:
Anyone know if I can make any changes to activate the Auto Brightness?

I tried changing the hw_config, but no better option.

I have also put the lib sensor.shakira.so and sensor.goldfish.so as in miniCM7, but it will not compass and CM Auto Brightness option disappears.

Any proof?

Thanks
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Raex:
Hi, could anyone tell me how i install this on my completely stock x8 (not even rooted yet)?

Also which version should i install and where can i download it?

Thanks ;)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] AndroidSoftmods:
first you can post this in Q&A section (more people can help), second use SEARCH button! Answer on your question is: root, install recovery, flash rom from recovery...btw this rom require custom kernel so check some threads about unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] chequebo1:
Two Bug´s

1-AutoBrightness

2-Reboot´s Facebook
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Ƶero:
indeed AutoBrightness is buggy

and xLoud doesn't stay active or doesn't even activate? not sure

anyways i tried out GDX v23 and v23b but i get error when i try download app on google play Error (-101) so i went back to GingerXperia.

Just bad that GingerXperia has a bit too much battery drain...

It's awesome Rom (even if there are newer Roms) it's for me still the best.

Am i the only one still using GingerXperia?

With Adreno libs from firedroid and Kernel Alfs v8 (Naa v11 getting bad score at Antutu) i get same score as with GDX or firedroid. (only little differences)

Antutu Score at 600Mhz:

ram : 116

cpu : 204

cpu float : 153

2d graph : 446

3d graph : 605

Database: 135

Sd card r : 51

Sd card w : 82

total : 1792

Score at 748Mhz : 2051 total
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] chequebo1:
Anyone know the reason why, to power cycle the phone, most times, the widgets do not load and even returns to the original launcher, and you have to restart the phone as 3 or 4 times until he gets on with the Launcher ADW is the one I use. And I have to re-set the password for Facebook and Twitter.

thanks

[SPA]

Alguien sabe el motivo por el cual, al apagar y encender el móvil, la mayoría de veces, los widgets no se cargan e incluso vuelve al launcher original, y hay que reiniciar el móvil como 3 o 4 veces hasta que consigue encenderse con el Launcher ADW que es el que utilizo. Y también tengo que volver a poner las password de Facebook y Twitter

Gracias
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] :
There are GingerXperia v30 that based on XperiaFan work :D:D

Link: http://tux8newblog2012.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/gingerxperia-v30-stock-kernel/
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] PvM Chapi:
For those who may not know what is or how to install nAa Kernel, here a quick link:

:)

REMEMBER:

-You must have CWM

-You must have bootloader unlocked (Not sure, if it doesn't appear on the thread it's not needed)

-You must have your phone rooted

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1350484

Hope it helps. (Of course the post is not mine)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] colossus:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1605859

Thread closed.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] wedush1234:
on me .. on 01.00 pm battery is full charging then at 09.00pm it became 26 percen ..with normal operation just call and sms it drain very fast .. not like in v 15 at least its survive 48 hours ..