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[G2 and Desire Z General] Setherio:
I love the idea of this. I literally spent hours yesterday checking out the vast multitude of custom roms we have available to us (note to the devs: we all very much appreciate your work!!!) and I had to read not just the description (which by nature is biased towards the rom, but im not complaining about that at all, thats okay ^^). But to get a good jist of it, I also ended up having to read hundreds of responses to each of the roms. I ended up checking out a rom that seemed to be appealing only to find out that I found it distasteful in design and functionality. (But picking a ROM is really personal preference so it's hard to say XXXXXX is the best or XXXXX is horrible).

Anyways... with that said, I appreciate your effort in making this thread. And I'll offer some constructive criticism, if I may as well as just throwing out ideas...

You cover (what I personally consider) the basic three styles - AOSP (or what I call Vanilla), Sense, and MIUI. I'm not sure what your target audience is, but maybe you should ellaborate a little more on what each is.

A little more detail wouldn't hurt. Your comments for CM7.1 Stock doesn't quite offer good grounds for judgement for the reader.

Pros and Cons would be a good field to add as well. An example would be, to me, a good Pro would be roms that come with tweaks (like CM7.1 and IWLT's CM Nightlies, and I believe Virtuous has built in tweaks that allow you to modify performance and appearance as well, not sure if MIUI.us does - if it does, I couldn't find it when I tried that rom =3)

Anyways, appreciate the effort and the non-biased (well, as non-biased as one can be - i know you're not a huge fan of MIUI but you didn't allow your personal preference to effect your review on it). And I look forward to further reviews!
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
Thank you setherio

EDIT: added a new phrase to CM7.1 stock and MIUI (the added phrases are the last ones)

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[G2 and Desire Z General] s14mc:
i made a barebones stripped ROM based on the newest tmo OTA, i made optimizations to get better battery life, and stripped tons out to get the most ram possible, and keep the ui fast and snappy.

my newest version 1.3, offers the best battery life in any rom that i have ever used, its super fast (no need for OC), offers the most free ram and is located here :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1324616

give it a try!
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
although i kinda hate barebone ROMs, but i will give it a try since you asked... but not now, i have to let my cell (specifically my emmc) to rest up a little bit... i flashed 3 ROMs then flashed back to ILWT this week... over all, i flashed 6 times...

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[G2 and Desire Z General] xNAPx:
I really love MIUI, it's customizable enough, but most of all it's FAST, I overclocked my phone to 1,6GHz also without a problem and the battery life is the same of the stock ROM running at 800MHz, and the memory usage is rally small I always have 150MB of RAM free
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
RAM isn't a problem... if you have a low RAM cosumption, when you open an app, the cpu will start working to open it... if your RAM is full, and you open an app, the app you opened is most likely be cached in RAM and will be opened faster, directly without cpu to work... clocking to 1.6GHz has cons more than pros, i guess 1GHz is enough

baisically: RAM is for multitasking

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[G2 and Desire Z General] khmerplayer:
you are 1 impatient dude..stick to one rom and actually use it..hahaa
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
i actually am an impatient dude... but you see, my main ROM is ILWT CM7, but i'm in need of sense ROMs, so i flashed everything related to virtuous, then in every flash, i got back to ILWT CM7... its the boss of all ROM... big thank you to Tsubus for this amazing ROM...

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[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
you haven't replied back to me, but do you have any video to show the difference? i've never even seen this fast slider you're talking about on the stock dialer.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
i'm thinking of making a video review of each ROM... do you guys encourage me?

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[G2 and Desire Z General] moolash:
battery thing

I am glad about your opinion. Hey, I might make you love Virtuous Sense 2.0 even more by extending battery life.

Look at my windmill-fight and finally the finding with the help of some nice folks here: (it's short, read through) You won't believe your eyes...

http://forums.virtuousrom.com/index.php/topic,88.0.html
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
its really that simple? wow...
[G2 and Desire Z General] Murks Zarle:
I tryed stock, unity, virtuous trentacinque. but then, six weeks ago, i desided to leave sense-based roms and to come back to a cm-based rom (last year i was happy with Cos-cs on my old HTC-dream). Noel i'm very happy with ILWT, to me it seems to be the best rom on this device.

Miui i tried only for one our, because there is no support for german on custom miui and i dont want to stay on a 'stable' rom without costumizations and tweaks...
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
thank you for your review...

G2-slim review coming soon

EDIT: G2-slim review will be done after binDROID... sorry, but i put sense ROMs in priority, then AOSP, then MIUI, then Barebone...

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[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
BinDROID ROM review added...

I actually don't know how to add supercharger script to the phone...

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[G2 and Desire Z General] selfinflicted1:
I don't know what you other guys think but the elite mod rom is the best thing since sliced bread. Definitely my favorite. And on the other end of the spectrum is the new mex-droid rom. To me it is a eye-sore. Way over the top and gawdy, and on top of that it's not that fast either imo. But to each his own....
[G2 and Desire Z General] heydrew:
I agree, Virtuos G-Lite (especially now that it has received some developer love and reached 2.01) is my all-time favorite, mostly because it is so smooth and the battery life is the best I've seen.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
removed G2-slim from future reviews... added BlissSense... sorry, but i really hate barebone...

EDIT: having trouble with BlissSense... gonna try to reflash it once the dev give me a solution :(

EDIT EDIT: problem solved... Posted BlissSense review

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[G2 and Desire Z General] noob15:
Hey riro just a heads up for virtuous rom the battery drain you are experiencing I was to, a quick fix for it is kinda strange I have no idea why it fixes it (makes no sense to be but from experience it does work) is use the stock theme.

In the "virtuous_sense" folder make a file called "use_stock_theme" no extension(not a txt files or anything)

Now just today i have had the phone one for about 4-5 hours light use and its at 95% which is pretty good.

again ill repeat I have no idea why this seems to fix the battery issue but it does for me.

http://forums.virtuousrom.com/index.php/topic,88.0.html
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
hmm... strange, thanks but its already too late :P cuz i keep flashing back to ILWT...

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[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
Added RCMix ROM

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[G2 and Desire Z General] xT4Z1N4TRx:
This should be stickied tbh :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] mputtr:
I'm still waiting for WTF? answer to this slide feature in aosp that's much faster than t9 dialing...
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
Added MikRunny Sense 3.5 ROM

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[G2 and Desire Z General] sebastianlow:
So, which is best sense 3.5 ROM?
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
Beatmod bliss sense hybrid... Thats my opinion

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[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
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[G2 and Desire Z General] xdadevolpers:
My opinion is different

- I have bought the DZ because i like Sense Roms , there is not a big problem if you have 100MB free or 200 mb , also android can run fast with low ram free , it's not like winmo (old 6.x). CM7 is a very good ROM exelent , but camera quality sucks , and the keyboard is the stock kbd of android. Also writing an sms with my own ROM that i have now (RCMix by NRGZ) it's cool cause you can paint on the keyboard :D and has a perfect correction of any lenguage. I will always prefer Sense ROM's , they are not too fast but beauty for my eyes ;)

Another ROMS like Virtous etc seems very laggy , i do not know why RCmix Rom runs smooth and fast , obv you do not need to have 4000 HTC widgets and big live wallpapers. I have choised RCmix for now , i have tweaked a bit with leaving the adbflash (bugged and not working) ocdeamon (not works perfectly for me) and added SetCPU (PRO) , toggled the 3D effect with the 2D (more fast) , and overclocked with Unity Kernel at 1.2GHz. Effects , visuals , fast , and with all features working. :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
thats cool... but that keyboard correction thing doesn't work here, because we type in a strange way for chatting... example:

in arabic, we say "mar7aban" for hello... its a weird thing, but its alot faster than typing with the real arabic keyboard

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[G2 and Desire Z General] xdadevolpers:
I think also with arabic works. Because if you paint wrong the phone auto-correct's what you want to write.

For example on this pic , i have tryed to write "hello" but there are errors with painting , but you will have auto-corrected :D

I use over 2000 messages on the month , and with this feature it's very fast writing (also with landscape) .. now i have bought the DZ for the fisical keyboard and i'm thinking: WTF? :D With this mode it's to much faster than writing with the fisical keyboard ;)

Now i will try the arabic lenguage , and i will tell you if works :)
[G2 and Desire Z General] asim0:
A-F-F-I-N-I-T-Y

By the way Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 features Sense 2.1 not Sense 2.0;

This one has been my daily driver for more than 3 months, I didn't like the unity, because it felt graphically resized, very bad contrast, and I was ready to stick to virtuous sense 2.0.0, but then I tried Affinity, which is based on a wvga rom too, and although Sense 3.5 is heavier, it has been the best rom since I enabled swap!

you should really try Affinity, and since it's only the second version, i'm impatient to see the development resume!!
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
i'll fix the sense 2.1 thing in my first post... thanks

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[G2 and Desire Z General] vchrizz:
ive looked through the feature lists of those roms but couldnt find if it supports host mode usb.

now before i try one by one to check, do at least one of those support that?
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
ram is just for multitasking, and if theres a lot of free ram, theres multitasking, and if theres multitasking, theres a performance boost :)

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[G2 and Desire Z General] jspina:
Great opinions! very true!
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
Added Nagash91's user opinion
[G2 and Desire Z General] Imitate:
This is really useful! I personally love the ICS, especially now that Virtuous have decided to work in it!

After reading the Cyanogen review I might give that a try if I ever stop using ICS.

Thanks.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
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[G2 and Desire Z General] Ninj:
Hi!

Nice thread! Deserves to be developped further.

I'm here beacause it's not clear to me which Sense ROM you recommend finally. You are saying "best Sense ROM" or "Ubber great Sens ROM" for most of them ;)

I still use the good old Virtuous Sense 2.0.0, but i'm only 80% happy with it. I like Sense (i bought an HTC, didn't i?). I wonder which one to try next.

Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
as i said in page 7... Beatmod bliss sense hybrid was my fav sense ROM
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ninj:
Ooops did i forget to read all pages? ;) My bad sorry.

Im going to read that. Thanks!
[G2 and Desire Z General] magic_android:
Hey, this is a really awesome post and i find it quite useful as i agree with a lot of your points.

I find that the mt4g camera app that is used in many of the Sense 3.5 ROMs takes amazing photos on my desire z and in a few days time, i'll be going on holiday, so i need a fast Sense 3.5 ROM with the mt4g camera for me to use. I tried mikrunny sense and found that to be too buggy for me (coming from a full wipe), would you recommend beatmod instead this time? Also what is your opinion on Energy ROM (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1401560)?
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
thank you for your reply...

beatmod bliss sense hybrid was the fastest ROM i've tried so far...

unfortunately, there isn't any blazing fast sense ROM yet... all of them lag, and all of them freeze for like a second when switching from app to app, and all of them are RAM suckers... i'm talking about sense 3.x sense 2.x is much faster

i'll edit my opinion in energy ROM now
[G2 and Desire Z General] budspanzer:
:rolleyes:

AnTuTu Benchmark v2.5.4

Overclocked 1152 MHz

with a chiepest MicroSD = 2959 :eek:

Test without SD score = 2835

Without overclock= 2539

Made with skype - gmail and others active underground.

And swap partition active.

Possible?

I'll Make a back-up and try again the MikRunny.

Thanks for this Thread.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
your benchmarks are with tweaks made, and some apps installed and running... my benchmarks were made without any tweaks, same clock speed (1GHz... not 1.1GHz) and same apps installed in every ROM (about 160 - 170 apps)

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[G2 and Desire Z General] budspanzer:
You are right. And your Thread is great to have an idea about the mod Sense ROMs. Yes, thank you VERY MUCH!

By my side I try to understand how any ROM I found can work on my real situation, with all my apps installed, with my preferences.

Infact I try the ILWT CM7, fastest but, if I customize it, slowdown.

AnTuTu in customized situation, 2550... without overclock.

So I try also the MikRunny... "AnTuTu 2680 overclocked". And give many slowdowns with some 3D effects or when start more apps.

Use the swap, so the memory is free enought, actually ever free than others but sometimes "stumble". If I start a live wallpaper for example, all go slow.

Dunno why! This is the Odex 1.1.

Ciao
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
ILWT benchmarks where different... its 1GHz, fully customized to visual... not performance... and it got a better score lol :D

overclocking... even a bit, can make a huge difference

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[G2 and Desire Z General] McPolo:
My vote goes to ILWT too. I don't know, if my settings/phone is just more laggish than others, but I think all these roms are more or less laggish. I've tried some basic stuff with other stock phones (samsung, wife's wildfire S etc) and they all seem to be much faster and more responsible than mine. Sometimes it takes very long time for phone to load something up, like sms or browser.

But, no more launcher redraws as it was with latest stock rom in the autumn.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
if you flash a small RAM consuming ROM... you can bulletproof apps, such as launcher, messages, browser... even games... so they will still be cached in RAM, so they open up faster than usual
[G2 and Desire Z General] budspanzer:
Anyhow, at the end of games:

I try many and many of these ROMs, not less than one day and some for 2/3 days. All the Sense are beautifull but not so fast. Yes, sometime seems fast but have stop during the use, non reactives. Exept the VirtuousUNITY, the most stable and fastest Sense I have, and infact is on one second phone from one month. And I don't touch anymore.

But with my phone, I came to your conclusion, ILWT.

I follow the thread here in the forum: superwipe, some add and this ROM is the fastest and better customizable of all.

Better than MIUI, and I love the MIUI job, for real.

In this moment I have a live paper, Meteo, Skype, Waze widget, maps widget, gmail, Dropbox, Calendar, google talk, Evernote widget, Google Documents Widget and CPU idle 245, max at 1.113 with 177mb free in ram.

Usually in Sense was 80 but in some ROM 30mb and CPU ever fast.

With Skype ever active it drain the battery so fast, from 100 to 10% in 8 hours.

Someone say me that AnTuTu is not good test because are too many the factors that influence the test to make a proper assessment.

But I try again, this time after the superwipe and all the best practice from the developer and the final test is...

2824 final score.

Actually the best score is not scientific, is calculated "on my face" when I tap on the screen and I see the phone dose what I want and I have not to wait... you know!

Thanks guys for this good job.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
Virtuous affinity v2.05.0 review coming up...

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[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
added virtuous affinity... bad review
[G2 and Desire Z General] Ninj:
Hi Riro Zizo ,

I respect and like your work. However, about Affinity, i'm surprised, not by what happened to you (not everyone has the same luck) but about your conclusion. It did not work for you, obviously, but this rom has good points and most users have no problem running it. You got unlucky, you couldn't use it, but it doesn't mean it's a bad rom, just that you could not review it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
i see your point... but i didn't get lucky, so i had a bad experience, so i'm sharing it with you... thats all... it is highly customizable though... but, it seems that i was unlucky :(

EDIT: just edited the OP for you....

EDIT EDIT: blissDROID review will be coming soon

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[G2 and Desire Z General] Ninj:
In fact i don't know if it was bad luck or bad rom, but nice of you to have add the "unlucky" option ;)
[G2 and Desire Z General] budspanzer:
Hey, i'ts not a real review. You where unluky. I use this per 10 days and can tell you this: Fastest than 1.48, better in mcustomization and stability. Wit or without swap works great and have a good usability. Don't drain battery too much, less than MIUI a bit more than ILWT.

As any Sense, is bit slowly and sometimes stuck per a couple of seconds. But in the "Sense panorama", in my opinion, seems one of the best.

It's a strange thing. For example I try the MikRunny.. .and my phone stuk. Stop, slow... you sad "one of the best", so this mean works good for you. I resist 2 days... and back ... to... ILWT! And now on MIUI. On these two, probably we have the same opinion.

Thanks a lot for your Thread, very helpfull. Ever good job.
[G2 and Desire Z General] magic_android:
I actually found Affinity 2.05.0 to be very very stable and fast for a Sense ROM. The battery life on it was reaaaaaaally good too, i'd get 60 hours on light use. The thing that made me switch away from Affinity is that general app performance is laggy, the actual interface and everything is smooth but apps are slow to load and apps don't perform as fast as they do on other ROMs. Oh, also, i completely de-bloated Affinity and ran supercharger and that did wonders for RAM usage and speed, where i could have 140mb free if i killed all apps which is really good for a Sense ROM.
[G2 and Desire Z General] raydar670:
Hey what's your opinion on Andromadus Alpha vs Virtuous Quattro? I'm running Andromadus now and it's one of the fastest ROMs I've used (granted i came from CM 7.1 RC2), but the video recorder doesn't work (kinda a bummer). Also there are rare graphical glitches (but it's an Alpha so I'll let it slide).
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
i'll be checking the latest version of both andromadus and virtous quattro soon... but i'm really busy with mid-terms those 2 weeks, so i won't be flashing any ROMs now... sorry for being late

so, andro, quattro, and blissDROID reviews will be late :(

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[G2 and Desire Z General] crazyC:
Affinity

To some extent I agree about Affinity - actual apps dont seem to load as fast as on other roms, but browsing/email/text/friendstream are all fine for me and thats my main uses.

I found that running with swap and supercharger gave me the kind of result mentioned in the OP, but running with swap and no supercharger has been fantastic - this is now my DD in place of virtuous 2.0.
[G2 and Desire Z General] dibi91:
i have tried some of the sense 3.5 roms and..they are all slow, only the new port of android revolution hd is acceptable..

But the best rom in my opinion is elitemod, very light and fast rom, whit great battery life
[G2 and Desire Z General] :
I just gotta say, best, most extensive ROM review I've ever read. I know you may have all branched off into some other topic, but i just wanted to thank this guy anyway. WELL DONE SIR.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
On a completely unexpected workaround.... Android revolution HD 7.0 review is added

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[G2 and Desire Z General] napior:
I hope that your opinion about my port is positive ;). Do you have plan rated this Rom?

Wysłane z mojego HTC Vision za pomocą Tapatalk
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
Sorry but... What is your port? *blush*

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[G2 and Desire Z General] crestofawave:
Napior ported Android Revolution HD 7.0.0 to the Dezire Z. =]
[G2 and Desire Z General] napior:
Sorry, i should say it.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
added some tweaks to beatmod & ARHD

by the way, the best sense ROMs are those two above now...

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[G2 and Desire Z General] RJx307:
Interesting review in op. quite detailed and works.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
InsertCoin ROM review added

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[G2 and Desire Z General] selfinflicted1:
Your port is top notch ****. It's my sense Rom. I have a cm nandroid and a sense nandroid and I bounce back and forth. Here lately I am sporting the sense more than cm. Great work.
[G2 and Desire Z General] pepar0:
Still going back to ILWT, even though latest has some problems?

What version do you use?
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
i currently use build 333, and no problems at all

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[G2 and Desire Z General] TraumaHawk03:
I'm Running the Virtuous Quattro RC3 Version 4.0.3.....I'm really diggin this ROM. Very Stable. I came from MIUI, and I agree, very beautiful and very stable as well. However, I'm running Android....The GUI was too...iPhoneish for me. With that said, it was a great starter ROM to allow me the opportunity to learn about clocking and functionality of being Rooted. So I would recommend MIUI for any other new Rooters.

You do have a nice list here too and a pretty decent review of the many ROM's out there. I, like you, have tried many and agree with what you wrote here.
[G2 and Desire Z General] rirozizo:
do you want me to add some pics? or it will just make the post really long?

vote away people :)

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