yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] cmonsterf50:
I dated a girl named Rosie. :cool: ... I'll just leave it at that.

Looking forward to that stock sense rosie. A little more complicated to do myself then initially thought.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] tommytomatoe:
It's in the classic updater. I meant to pm you :-) Stock Sense Rosie.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] cmonsterf50:
Oh ho ... really? Now I've just got to get the updater to work then. I'm working on a project for MikG ... so I'll jump back over to Classic shortly (sound familiar ... haha)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] tommytomatoe:
Haha. Here is direct link just in case :-)

http://classictomatoe.net/android/classic-updater/update-stock-sense-rosie-v005-signed.zip

:-)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] cmonsterf50:
Thanks bud. I got it working. However the script wouldn't flash from the updater. I had to flash it manually
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] tommytomatoe:
Unfortunately the recoveries are at fault. It was either going to be capable with cwm and twrp or just Amon ra alone. I went with the cwm and trwp route. It has to do with how the recoveries mount the files. The next release will be Amon ra capable. It is what I use as should everyone :-)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Guitarified:
Someone in the EVO Classic forum asked about getting the Sprint Lovers icons for the ROM. Would it be a pain for someone to whip those up for Supreme? They would look great with the Speedometer battery icon (thanks again dre!) and the eventual ICS theme. Thanks to Tommy and dre, my EVO is THIS CLOSE to having my dream setup.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] cmonsterf50:
Well that being the case, I wonder if it will work with amon 3.x, as its supposed to support cwm.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] tommytomatoe:
Good point. I don't know! I use 2.3.3 :-)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Guitarified:
So quiet...
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Royalfox:
Waiting on ICS theme :3

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Guitarified:
Same here! Also hoping to see some Sprint Lovers icons...anyone?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
I'm so impatiently waiting for this, my whole setup is ics, can't wait to make it look complete :P

Sent from my Classic EVO
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Royalfox:
+1

pc36100
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Hey everyone, I apologize for taking longer with the ICS theme. I've been super busy at work these past few weeks and I was in Vegas this weekend with my co-workers! I'm back at work right now and I plan on having the ICS theme out later today.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Royalfox:
You are the man!

PC36100
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Don't have time to put screenshots like I did in the OP but ill post them from my phone.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] linsalata28:
Really nice!

I need to try and make a dialer and keyboard for my theme.

Is that the htc keyboard?

Is there a how to on keyboards around here?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Royalfox:
Downloading Ics theme now! Thanks kwdre! I love you! (No homo)

PC36100
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
There isn't a how to, but I pmed you what edits you need to make in smali. Get the deodexed HTC_IME from my pm, decompile it, make the edits in smali, change whatever you want to change in /res/drawable-hdpi, recompile it, and follow the remaining instructions from my pm.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Guitarified:
Running it now and LOVING it...but...(here comes my big 'but)

What do I need to do to get the Speedo Battery icon you made me work on this? When I flash it, the status bar icons go back to green.

Thanks!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
Found a small flaw....the service icon goes like it's unthemed sometimes?

Sent from my Classic EVO
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Royalfox:
+1 same here

PC36100
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] tommytomatoe:
Woot woot!

Between you and Lin I am speechless! Thank you!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] linsalata28:
When I first pulled those icons I had the same problem with my theme so I had to make that icon cause its not part of the real ones, I think I had to make a few others also like roaming if I'm not mistaken.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
That and notification text color will be fixed tonight or tomorrow. :)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
I made those and the roaming ones too, but I guess I forgot to drag em to the drawable-hdpi folder :confused:
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Theme has been updated with signal icons and notification text color fix.

http://www.mediafire.com/?gh3e8tl33ns0110
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] linsalata28:
It takes me a few tries to get a theme right even if I have all the png's right, I always forget something.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Same here. Prolly more than a few to be honest ;)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Royalfox:
Thanks for fixing theme, flashing now...

Sent from my PC36100
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
For anyone who wants to get their clock color to match the icons, the hex color code is #ff33b5e5
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Per your request: http://www.mediafire.com/?x2lf5vme8591geo
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Guitarified:
Nice! Thanks once again, man! One step closer to my dream setup!

Here's one more exclamation point for emphasis...!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] evo4ger:
anyone know if the standalone supreme classic will work on other sense 1.0 ROMs?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] tommytomatoe:
No it will not. it's based on the classic apks which are rebuilt and have dependencies not present in stock sense 1.0.

But if you want this theme why not run classic? :-)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] evo4ger:
kept getting a constant sync icon and couldnt figure out why... never had that prob with the beta 005...might flash again to see...i flashed the senseless one not sure if that had anything to do with it?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] tommytomatoe:
On senseless I think you have to sign out of your accounts then sign back in. That should fix the sync icon persistence.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Anytime :D
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] iambenny5000:
Thank you for this awesome theme. I just noticed in the calendar the times are cut off a bit in agenda view, but it doesn't do that anywhere else.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] 11_fingers:
Trying out the ics theme, any plans to add the blue glow around boxes like the green glow you have in the supreme classic?

Great work thank you
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
I'm working on this actually. Those were a problem from the start cuz of .9.png errors and is why I took so long to release the ics theme. As soon as they're done I'll post an updated version.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
Why dont you just make these in kitchen? and you can transfer those pngs to resources, and all the popups will have the blue glow, lin helped me figure it out :D if you dont have the time i can throw it together for ya if youd like.....
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] 11_fingers:
Great, thanks for the update and again for the theme
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
Hey krwdre I made a flashable zip for this popup mod, with your permission ill post it, so just let me know

http://db.tt/fD93CQ92

Sent from my Classic EVO
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Great idea, thank you and go ahead and post the link and ill include it in the OP! :D
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Theme has been updated for 0.0.6-Preview and I also fixed the popup windows and added a ICS blue glow to them. Thanks again Goobertime!

Also added new animations!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] life:
will you be updating the supreme classic to v 0.0.6 as well, im not big on the ICS blue...

the supreme classic looks perfect tho, nice work.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
Does that mean you re did the keyboard, and it works with the new update ? :)

Sent from my Classic EVO
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] partyman1971:
Is there a way to get this blue also, or did i mess something up flashing it. I noticed everything else looks great and is blue but this....thanks. Sweet looking theme.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Yes, later today :)

Working on it :)

Will be fixed today!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Both Supreme Classic & ICS themes have been updated for 0.0.6-Preview.

Edit: ics link removed, keyboard error. I'll repost as soon as I fix it.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Finally, done with the ICS edits for the day. Here you guys go: http://www.mediafire.com/?r6tjf8v343337j6

This is for 0.0.6-Preview btw.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
So themed keyboard is working? :) :)

Sent from my Classic EVO
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Absolutely.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
Sweet, I have been waiting for a keyboard to be done before I flashed the update Haha, I can't live without a themed keyboard :)

Sent from my Classic EVO
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] pipefitter:
krwdre,

I flashed that modded theme. Looks great. I don't know if anyone has brought this to your attention, but the voicemail notification in the pulldown has black text. The icon is white, but the text is black. I was goimg to flash the straight theme because I am doing a different battery. Do you know if the straight DCS theme has the same text color?

Thanks
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
Sent from my Classic EVO
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Yes, I noticed it too, but everything else, like when someone texts you, is in white text, correct?

If so I might have to try theming the voicemail app or going through the systemui xmls.

Thanks for the input guys :)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
Here is a standalone keyboard from the supreme cream theme for v0.0.6 that I put together :)

http://db.tt/tY8i7vEx

Sent from my Classic EVO
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
I've been working on updating some more of my ICS theme. Here's a preview, I'll post later tonight or tmrw.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Goobertime:
That wallpaper looks awesome, any chance I could get a link to where I can get it ? Also what png is the one for the surround around the call button ? I couldn't find it
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
I'll post the theme later. I can't remember the name of the png off the top of my head.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] linsalata28:
That looks nice!

Where are those lock pattern png's at?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
In framework-res
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] cmonsterf50:
Hey guys. Don't know if this theme already has one, but I made up a themed Google Search widget.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21463270

mmm ... ICED cookies ... numnum
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] evo_like:
Hey I flashed the theme...looks real good. However, in the screenies I saw a black dialer, but that one is not showing. Also I can't fine the wallpaper that shows on the screenies. Thoughts? I downloaded from op where it says for v5 finale.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Download the one for 0.0.6
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] evo_like:
Worked. Thanks dude. Looking good!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] evo_like:
fyi I am having this alignment issue on the dialer. I was having the same issue with the other ics theme too, and I believe tommy had posted a fix which was then used by linslata.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Thank you, ill fix it when I get a chance!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] sssqueue:
Awesome theme. I can confirm that the text is white for sms texts in the drop-down. But, I also noticed that the text for music playing is black as well. See screenshot. Running the latest 006 with Ubuntu fonts and speedometer battery.

One question - what color should the scrollbar be? Mine is gray but I was sure it was themed blue before I flashed the battery mod...
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
It should be blue. It's because the speedometer battery you flashed overwrites some framework files from the latest update. I'll have to update the speedometer battery and post later.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Also, if you want to change your clock color on the statusbar to ICS blue go into classic tweaks and in the clock options change the hex code from #ffffff to ##33b5e5
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] ERamseth:
If I'm flashing over another 0.0.5 theme, can I just wipe cache & dalvik or do I need to flash back to stock first?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Philosuffer:
How hard would it be to turn off transparency for the notification pull down and app drawer?
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] VTEC4ME:
If I flash the Stock Classic Minimal Clock Widget & ics ghost rosie on top of this theme, it's not going to bork anything is it?

EDIT: It works, but if you flash the "no text on homescreen" you will lose the ICS Ghost Rosie and reverts back to the Classic Ghost Rosie and vice versa.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] VTEC4ME:
Just applied the theme. Looks awesome btw.

one issue with the Bookmark widget, the black banner is kinda large and cuts parts of the text on list.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Wiping cache & dalvik should be fine.

Kinda hard since the notification pulldown is no longer controlled by a png and now controlled by xml.

I'll look into this when I have some time :)
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] krwdre:
Fixed:

And fixed:
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] Royalfox:
To kdwre, are those bugs fixed already or do u need to upload a new version?

PC36100
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] loumoli:
Thanks dre luvin all your wurk!!!
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] kurtg:
I just flashed the v0.0.6 Supreme cream theme. I looks great, except that when i open the calendar agenda view the bottom half of the times is cut off on each item. Not a major issue, but I thought i would mention it.

Great work. I love the look of this theme. It is the first one I have decided to try.
[EVO 4G Themes and Apps] King_Me:
Lovin this theme man!!! Question though, is there a mod for a different clock?? Maybe one made for this theme?

Sent from my SubZero ICS EVO.FREEZE SUCKA!!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] korakwinband:
hi,im finding on stock keyboard of my Ace 2.3.4 any version..where can i find one?

flashable on cwm?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] droidtwoseven:
Here!

Here it is mate..Its an apk :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] sjrm:
Is this the Swype kb ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] doctorace92:
no...it isn't.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] droidtwoseven:
Yes it is stock KB, not swype..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] korakwinband:
not yet tried..anyway, thank you very much..:-)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AlphaTheNeko:
Hi guys, I hate to be the new guy asking for something that's more than likely been answered, but I honestly did search for hours on the site before I broke apart and joined the forum to ask.

Basically, I'm new to the android hacking scene and want to Root my Xperia Play R800i that is running 2.3.4, having been upgraded from 2.3.2 . But i'd like to be able to do this without unlocking the bootloader (and according to the system menu, the boot can be unlocked, i just choose to prefer to not unlock it).

Is this possible ? Because the 3 tools I tried that say they supposedly support this, haven't worked for me :

SuperOneClick 2.2

DooMLoRD V3

Root Unroot Sony 1.5

So, can anyone help me out in this one ? Thanks in advanced

Alpha
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swebosdev:
For 2.3.2 its called gingerbreak and for 2.3.3-2.3.4 its called zergrush. Search for those.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mehdi.moha:
hi alpha

gingerbreak is not working on 2.3.4

and for use doomlord kernel you have to unlock your bootloader .

there is one way to roor/unroot your beautiful xperia play , use oneclickrool ( https://shortfuse.org ) latest version.it works %100 , i've used it yesterday on my phone 2.3.4 (( .....0.58 ))
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AlphaTheNeko:
Huh.... Oneclickroot worked when uing that new version. 2.2 didn't work, 2.3 did though. Handy.

Thank you very much Mehdi.Moah !
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lckh66:
hi, im trying this now, but it always stop responding after starting the daemon server. how did you get it to work?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SeXperiaPlaY:
i thought id post rather than start a new thread

i have an xperia play with the very latest software

specs:

R800i

2.3.4

build: 4.0.2.A.0.42

kernal:2.6.32.9-perf SEMCUser@SEMCHost#1

i am worried about rooting, i definatly want it but i am looking for an easy and safe way to do it please get back to me on this here or preferably by email

vansskater1995@hotmailDOTcom
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spectre51:
I just use flashtool to push zerg
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fma965:
use super one click. shortfuse

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[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffbud98:
when i use superoneclick should i select zergrush exploit
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Masters2150:
Leave it as AUTO don't select.

Also, it may take a few tried. I had to try like 3-4 times, rebooting each time for it to work.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devi59:
Make sure you have USB debugging enabled too. First time it faiked for me I forgot to do that

sent from my Locked r800at
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_spatel:
help

Hello,

Can some one please help me?

I have an xperia play with the very latest software

specs:

R800i

2.3.4

build: 4.0.2.A.0.62

kernal:2.6.32.9-perf SEMCUser@SEMCHost#1

boot loader is locked

Can I root the device using superoneclick (short fuse)? Would I be able to then use Link2sd?

When rooted to unroot do I just use SE companion to reinstall the software?

Thanks
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fma965:
NO. you can only root via recovery on .62 but I believe you can downgrade then root or something.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cman813:
Can i update my firmware where or update other stuff. I am running synergy mod.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalfan78:
Don't take any updates if you're rooted, you can always flash a newer rom

We're comin from a pure power source.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalfan78:
You can update your profile and prl though

We're comin from a pure power source.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] elderduke:
XGin 6.2 : (CWM install...I'm a bit puzzled here. Because on my device, xRecovery install works better. I tried both, works on both types. But when I use CWM I have some lag. If I install xRec, is perfect. Hm...)

http://www.multiupload.com/ST0D79D1AX

and

http://www.mediafire.com/?k5w9arh4l5f61xr

Changelog: Based on CM Hero 242. - Andoid 2.3.7. We are close to final CM7.

add

-Launcher home xperia-2011

-Walkman miui-mod by frogy furnetal

-Desclock.apk, alarm

-Backup and restore

Camera.apk mod-

-Youtube app ported from XMP

-Some toogle work perfectly (ultra brighness, brighness toogle is working)

-New Ramdisk with initlogo.rle

-Some system / lib has been edited

deleted

-Home 4-corner

-Xloud

Thx to FrogyFurnetal, KuyaGaol and all of xda-developers.com dev ..

framework with blue and black background http://www.multiupload.com/VLQ6MB59MC

Having stock kernel, from where I stand, test results are the same as in XGin 6.1. concerning Linpack, AnTuTu and Quadrant. I attach screenshots bellow. Well, still a great Rom, the best, good battery life and , of course, Cypress users like me have to add ax8mt.ko module again....

After checking FB Indonesia, looks like the Changelog mostly reffers to tweaking the Rom with the existing , rich, .apk's and making it Compatible with custom kernel. So it looks like the problem lies with me, that I still have Stock kernel...

Attached a Screenshot from Kryshna Yana, from FB Indo, showing great results with diferent Kernel.

Thanks for that,

And for a great job.

I feel there is not enough importance given to this great Rom.

on the other hand is true that I use XGin on a day to day basis from the beginning, so mabe I am a bit bias. But anyways the rom is stable, smooth, and just suitable to my use and to anyone that needs a stable, reliable, no FC and no OC either. Great battery life, 1% loss over night.

All credits to Rieken Yuki : thank you master for a great ROM.

Also to Mika Dee for the site and support.

Credits go deeper - to Shpit, the original XGin Dev, FrogyFurnetal for contribution, other Indo users and Devs and of course to original CM6, CM7 dev. team. As I understand, Rom is ported from Hero.

Thanks to anyone who contributed.

Site link:

http://x8xgin.wordpress.com/

...or just xgin.tk

Download : http://www.multiupload.com/3TERRL6WCW

I will add shortly screenshots and tips and tricks.

Chnagelog:

add

- w8 keyboard

- infinite view xmp (no phonebook.apk xmp)

- sportclockwidget

- miui walkman mod by Frogy Furnetal

- transparent mms 2.2

- w8 user interface

- ICS animations/transitions

base CM7-239

working vibrate sms,call

status bar not transparent

Bluetooth

Offline charging

GPS

and CM7-239 suport

XGin 6.2 :

http://www.multiupload.com/ST0D79D1AX
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] Rieken Yuki:
thanks to admin, so reserve post for me, thank you for elderduke (thx bro)

Shpit, KuyaGaol, FrogyFurnetal (Lasan in xda), doixanh, nobodyAtall, and everything in xda big thanks to you all. :D
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] elderduke:
Screenshots with results

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Results in Linpack: (Jit enabled) : 7.4-7.5

Results in Quadrant (@600): 1160 (2d: 216, 3d: 383)

AnTuTu: 1443 - but I have quite low card values...

Modules: default is the synaptics -x8gestures.

if you have cypress, add a ax8mt.ko module, change permissions, and rename it to x8gestures....

ADDED: Mastah Rieken Yuki gave me the fix for CMparts, now we have OC and UV on this ROM. Great work!!

All credits to Rieken Yuki!!

Hit post above.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] LeFeverts:
I'LL test it!

i like w8 look out!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] biscoitu:
@Op, I used Xgin when shpit was behind it, and that was so fun :D. But, my guess is that ppl even don´t know it too much since Rieken doesn´t play here on XDA, and the OP from Xgin thread is not updating it anymore :(. Good to know that indo ppl still developing it :)

Cheers,

b1s
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] elderduke:
Yes, agreed, and seeing that Shpit's XGIN Op did not update, - not to mention changed his XDA name - I decided to post XGin 6.1 for now. We'll see in future what happens. For the moment Rieken Yuki is porting the new nightlies from Hero, but I cannot give ETA for new version. This version I consider it deserves more attention.

Enjoy,

Cheers
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] LeFeverts:
Ok my experience:

-Good performance, except the transistion animation, its slow sometimes.

-The boot time is ok, fast.

-I have no problem with bluetooth and wifi.

Bug:

-if i choose clockworkmod on reboot menu, it doesnt enter to it!

I'still testing it! i hope i can do a short review video for the weekend!
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] biscoitu:
Do you know if he is managing to make his on kernel for this ROM?

Edit: About SIMLock, if you unlock bootloader, you will have to unlock sim again, but I didn´t see anyone who did it already. Everyone who unlocked, said that asks Blagus for the fix, but seems that he is not answering, or ppl aren´t giving the expected feedback on the thread. (sry for the OT)
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] elderduke:
No idea atm ...but I do not have the bootloader unlocked. reason: I had a simlock on my phone...experts say unlocking will re-appear that simlock. Do u know if is true or not? Anyways for that reason I did not ask about kernel, but I will asap.
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] josip-k:
I updated the thread but only upto 6.0 version.i saw 6.1 version,but there was no changelog and i couldnt update the thread anymore.

On topic-alfs kernel works like a charm for this rom,try it. :)

sent from my x8 using miniCM
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] josip-k:
And yes,unlocking BL will restore sim lock.

sent from my x8 using miniCM
[XPERIA X8 Android Development] elderduke:
Sorry for that , but I posted enough things (changelog, new link, etc) and also I thought the title deserves attention : Rieken Yuki, and not Shpit (thank you for all the work done) anymore.

Thanks for the info with unlocking and for the info on Alfs' kernel, unfortunately I cannot (should not, right? ) unlock it.

Could you be so kind post some Antutu/Quadrant/linpack results with Alfs?