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[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Of course HTC's updates always breaks more phones than they fix. I would rather it be done right and take their time than be foolish and rush them out for some stupid "speedy update" reputation. If you want speedy Samsung updates get a Nexus or move to Europe. Galaxy S series are updated within a month there. No one ever explained why the US phones are so hard to update.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
because they have to be approved by the carriers. aka sprint. in europe most phones are not tied to a specific carrier.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Because intl or european phones don't have: carrier regulated updates, and CIQ.

Here in the US, the update is built by a manufacturer, tested by a manufacturer, then passed on on to carrier for testing/modification(aka things like Sprint iD.) In the end, it has to be approved by both carrier and manufacturer. They are both to blame, *however* Samsung has less to be blamed for. They, as you can see, produced quite a lot of builds for us, however broken they were. So, Sprint(in our case) is mainly to blame for adding their crap, and breaking more stuff.

/sig
[Epic 4G General] TexasLTE:
so in that case , if folks in Europe have problems with phone they deal with Samsung directly ?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
AH HA!!!! See that is what I always said...it's freakin' Sprint!!! So then it is even worse for the some of other major US carriers since they haven't got their GB yet?
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
Well to start off, I'm not stupid. "Samsprint" was in quotes because it's not at all accurate. So don't be an ass. and HTC does not get them done quickly. Not do they support their older phones as they should. Their flagship device? The evo. Yet even though it just recently reach EOL, it never got sense updated. Still version 1 as far as I know. so you wanna continue with how great HTC is with updates? Or do you get the point?
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
I love this debate because it's always the same exact blaming structure all pointed at whatever carrier from the same exact people over and over.

Yet no one can and ever does answer a very simple question:

If it's all the carriers' fault, why is it that, no matter who the carrier is that's involved, it's

always

Samsung that is extremely delayed, extremely slow, with updates to their phone?

Because it's Samsung.

USING LOGIC and basic intelligence you cannot sit here and say "Well it's XY carriers fault because of blah blah" when the other manufacturers never have the same issue over and over.

Here's a recent example [there's been about 20 examples in the past two years]:

The LOS issue [a very serious issue] for the Epic Touch took a full two and a half months to get fixed.

Anyone remember the HTC security issue? Because that fix was released within 3 weeks of that whistle being blown.

I never said anything about HTC being great with updates, they've been traditionally better and faster with their updates comparative to Samsung at least.

HTC doesn't get them done more quickly?

Then why is it that both the Evo and the Evo Shift received Gingerbread a year and half a year [respectively] before the Epic?

Oh wait, because Sprint is slow... well just with Samsung products :rolleyes:

How's the Samsung Moment doing by the way? :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Clearly NOT Samsung Matt as Galaxy S phones had Gingerbread in Europe in April, immediately following were the UK and Canada. So by quick and intelligent deduction it is the US carriers and whatever restrictiions/bloat/politics that they add onto the phone. Samsung continued to send Sprint new builds which they rejected. Unfortunately no one knows why. Then Sprint had EI22 for 6 weeks before releasing it. EC05 was released less than 2 weeks after Sprint got it. ATT and T-Mobile still do not have their GB...can't be Samsung if Sprint and Verizon got theirs out.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
You can blame Samsung, or you can be honest and just accept its both carrier/manufacturer to blame. The evo is a broken piece of crap. And I don't see sprint adding anything to the evo in its updates. Old sense, no new features, bad battery life. I'm sorry, but Samsung doesn't give half-baked releases. Slow, yet reliable, vs htc quick, and unusable.

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[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Now now Mattykins let's slow down there a bit boy

If you really used logic in your thinking, you would've seen how the i9000(re: International Galaxy S) was updated almost on a monthly basis through kies. They received froyo back in like september and upgraded to gb a little after froyo on the epic was released.

And by me saying it got gb, I mean every galaxy s in every country got it, save the US.

That means Brazil, india, canadia, germany, the UK, england, mid east, etc.

Samsung is clearly good when it comes to updates.

So please, before you try to speak with confidence, do some research to back up your claims. And only make a claim when it can't be rebutted so goddam easily if you sat back and thought a little.

And even if after multiple people giving you the same conclusion doing research that you vehemently oppose to do and you still believe its truly samsung delaying the updates, then may god be with you my child.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
If Samsung has proven one thing over the past two years it's that they care more about the international versions of their phones than they do U.S. versions.

Even the release dates of their phones show that.

The SGS2 took 4 months before being released in the U.S.

Europe, Asia, even freakin' South America and Africa received the SGS2 months in advanced from the U.S.

You also have to note that the international versions are GSM which of course means, once Samsung makes the update all they have to do is push it to all the SGSx phones no matter what country they're in. [Unless it's the U.S. or a few Canadian carriers]

What the...?

How is the Evo broken?

Also, Samsung doesn't put out half-baked releases?

How many times were upgrades to the Epic pulled? 2 or 3?

Seems like a silly claim to make considering.

I don't get why XDA members are always so quick to jump on the carriers about everything.

Are they to blame for some things? Of course! They are by no means perfect and tend to be a pretty serious problem in many examples.

But that doesn't mean that they're responsible for all of lifes' issues.

Samsung has a history with update delays and other support related issues, in the U.S.

No matter who the carrier is.

Deny/ignore that all you want. Assign blame to whomever you want.

Doesn't change that fact.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
No one ever denied that.

That is due to carrier optimization/customization, out of samsungs hand.

Because they use the intl model, with 0 modifications.

Only silly because you refuse to listen. One pulled update. That's it. EB13, and that's only because it didn't have Sprint iD on it(ie: sprint made them pull it)

What did I say in my posts, they're *both* to blame. I never said it was all Sprints fault.

And no one has denied history. That's true. But, the fact remains that history does not determine the future. In any way. And our update past has proven that samsung is quick w/ the updates, and sprint messes them up.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
Wait, let me guess..

Verizon, T-mobile AND At&t also keep "messing up" those "quick" [I think my eyes just rolled out of my head] updates from Samsung too?

Anyway, with that absurd claim I think we can see that no matter what you guys are committed to the idea that it's all Sprint's fault.

No matter what.

Have a good day.
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
O___o Don't take it so personally, just calm it down a bit.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
Take what personally?

I wasn't the one with the response of this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20168705&postcount=154

I'm not taking anything personally.

I just realize that this discussion is hopeless especially given such a ridiculous claim like what was just presented.

Samsung could come out and say "it's all our fault" and people would still assign the blame to carriers. So what's the point in continuing?

IF

the slow update issue was just with one carrier, the positions offered here would make sense.

It's not.

Not all 4 carriers keep "messing up" the updates that Samsung is sending them.

The question I presented has still yet to be answered and probably never will because the answer would likely disappoint people that would rather blame the carriers for everything in life:
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
So you completely ignore my entire post except the end? I said: It isn't all sprints fault. You're an idiot. I'm sorry if you're taking offense to this, but its 4:1.. you're picking/choosing things to respond to to make yourself look like you're right. We aren't stupid. Good day sir.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
And I'm the one being told not to take things so personally? [i also enjoy how YOU thanked that post too]

I don't care if it's 42389473895794385:1 it doesn't make the larger sides' argument more correct.

As far as "picking what to respond to", I didn't.

There was nothing to say to the rest of your post it was just you saying "they're both to blame", okay...? What do you want me to say to that?

Other's are saying it's all Sprint and that's who I'm replying to.

And I don't agree, I think in this example it's all Samsung.

But I've already stated that so what was the need to reiterate it?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Look, I have exhausted enough effort to try and show you what we're trying to say. The US carriers all operate the same when it comes to updates, due to mandatory processes of the united states. In europe, its all up to samsung, as there is no regulated carrier review process, as they just offer the intl model as "their" phone. They update the original model first ie i9000, then use that as a base for all the modified gs based phones. It takes time to update the 8-10 other GS models in the us. Then the carriers have to approve of the update because in the us, carriers have too much control.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
So now you're blaming U.S. regulations which are neither the carrier(in this case Sprint) nor Samsung's fault.

I'm sure that has plenty to do with it too though.

You also ignored part of my post. :O
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
That what I was trying to get out the entire time. Samsung gets it out, and the delays happen.

Yes, success :)

No, I didn't ignore. But, what you said explained it, so there was no need for a response.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
However, here's the problem...

Why do those regulations only seem to affect to Samsung's updates?

HTC doesn't seem to have those issues...neither does say...Motorola

What makes Samsung special?
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
my deleted post about mattkinsx is completely true.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Because samsung uses touchwiz and with how f'ed up it is it is harder for sprint to implimant their things on it. I am in no way blaming sprint nor samsung. The blame defenitely goes on both of the. But in reality samsung has put out 79 builds. Most of which sprint trashed and couldn't get working right. So I think we all know where most of the blame goes. Not all because samsung should do a better job with putting out workable builds.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
No one answered why it took Sprint from September 22nd to November 9th to release the EI22 OTA. That is a hell of a long time. Sprint was real fast to reject Samsung builds to the point that there were daily builds. They only took 10 days to get EC05 out. For this I blame Sprint. Sprint could have gotten us GB at the end of September. I blame US regulations for a lot of the other delays.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
+1
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
How about for further testing to avoid what happened to the Froyo release?

Makes sense.
[Epic 4G General] b16flybye:
Guys, clearly, this is Obamas fault.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yishay:
Hello

After updating dsp1 and amss for upgrading to Rom ver. 2.3.3 I'm not heard when dialing, but heard while answering to incoming call.

Please advise.
[Streak 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greekunit690:
Same thing happened to me...do a factory reset from white screen, reflash both and then flash the rom, clear all caches and reboot
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] LewisGauss:
Hey guys, I just flashed the Ice Cream Sunday ROM and I found that this ROM is lack of notification sound. Could anyone make the stock's bubble notification sound for me?

Moreover, I'm facing another issue which is I cannot access my carrier's USSD code to check my sim status and others. It shows mr USSD Code error and blah blah blah try again later. At first, I thought it was the carrier's problem, in order to confirm it, I tried to access the USSD with another phone and I got that it could access it. How to solve it?
[Verizon Droid Charge] Haloman800:
Not sure if any of you ever heard of ngmoco's Plus+ game social network on iPhone, well they were bought out by a japanese company who owns "Mobage", a mobile game network in Japan.. Now they're releasing games on Android, but every single one of their apps has every permission in the book, & they give no explanation for any of them.

Now I'd normally stay away, but they have one game I loved on iOS, Pocket Frogs, here's a link; http://0.mk/72868 check out the permissions tabs.

Is it safe? Is there any way to block all permissions in an app or disable them??

Thanks.

TL;DR, remove app permissions?
[Verizon Droid Charge] spc_hicks09:
I clicked on it and the permissions they have in there now seem normal actually. Except for this one:

Allows an application to read all of the contact (address) data stored on your device. Malicious applications can use this to send your data to other people.

It looks like they might have removed quite a bit of the permission requests because in the reviews people were saying it requests "super user access" and stuff like that but when I read the permissions, that one isn't listed anymore.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Haloman800:
Yeah, that's the one that bothered me the most, but hardly any of those are required for the app to run, it's just unnecessary & annoying for a game to have that many permissions

Is there any way to remove its permission to read contact data?
[Verizon Droid Charge] EvilEvo:
That app also requested SU access on my phone. I denied it and then immediately removed the app. There is no reason that game should require SU access.
[Verizon Droid Charge] alphis:
There is a handy linux tool to list permissions that an APK uses via commandline called scanperms. I use it to check out what an app uses before installing.

URL is hxxp://tinyurl.com/cvo6dqw
[Android Apps and Games] fcb13:
Is there any GBA emulator that works with MIUI?
[Android Apps and Games] scottmog:
Yongzhs doesn't?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sickamoose239:
so i just went threw and attempted to room my evo 4g with unrevoked says failed due to to new of firmware? need help please
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottypeterson:
I'm guessing that you have a newer or updated evo 4g that is running Gingerbread 2.3.3. Unrevoked won't get you rooted. You need to use Revolutionary to root. There are many threads on how to do it. It's very easy and only takes 5 minutes.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sickamoose239:
ok thanks basicly same process?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottypeterson:
Idk I've never used Unrevoked. All you do is go to their website, put in your phones serial number to get a beta Key. Install their program, extract their program, plug your phone in to computer, run the program, type in the beta Key exactly as it is, and let it do its thing and bam you're rooted.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottypeterson:
Make sure you have debugging checked
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwelder:
Also makes sure your phone has a good charge on the battery. Rooting through Revolutionary is very simple but find a thread that explains it and follow those steps exactly.

Sent from my Decked Out HTC EVO with Tapatalk!
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _TXN_:
I just used the revolutionary.io method

It is very simple if you just follow the tutorial

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1218386
[Epic 4G Android Development] starskyrob:
THE RETURN OF VIPERROM

UNDER CONSTRUCTION Work In Progress.

Disclaimer:

This ROM will convert your phone's NAND memory partition layout to MTD, and filesystem to Yaffs2. If you don't know what that means, find out.*
Guess what? Your warranty is void.

You flash this ROM completely. at your own risk. StarskyROB is not held liable if your phone gets bricked, if your warranty is now voided, or if your phone transforms into Megatron and eats your family.

StarskyROB is not held responsible for bugfixes or releases.*

This ROM uses the Linux kernel which falls under the GPL.*
Source code for Kernel is found at the thread linked at the bottom of this post.

Source code for Samsung's EI22 build can be found at opensource.samsung.com

[/SIZE]

A Beta is Released with a theme! Test test test test.

Almost there, folks.

Serpenty Goodness:

Your favorite ViperROM addons such as Viperpad, Viperwheel, and ViperDialWidget

PLUS:

CIQ Removed

Opensource MTD Partition Map

YAFFS2 File System

Shadow Kernel

Overclock / UV up to 1.4ghz [Voltage Control Compatible]

Voodoo Sound*

Voodoo Color*

*download Voodoo Control from Android Market (free version)

Kexec support

Built-in TUN, CIFS, FUSE, & TCPMSS

Rom Manager Compatible

Extended Power Menu

Keyboard Skips Fixed

CRT OFF

HOTSPOT HACK

VOLUME ROCKER MOD

SGS4G ADRENALINE TWEAKS

init.d Mounting of Swap Partition

BUILD.PROP TWEAKS

GPS FIX

BATTERY 1% MOD

OVERSCROLL

SUPERUSER PERMISSIONS

DeODEXED

Zipaligned on boot

TeamVIPER may not be around so much, but I am happy to fill in and bring this great project back to life, and up to date with the latest and GREATEST from our community.

Download from Rom Manager! or:

Themed Beta Build:

ViperROM Resurgence Beta 1.0.0

OLD Unthemed Alpha Build:

http://www.mediafire.com/?wkxxxd849mmtvgb

Thanks To:

The Original Viper Team for your amazing innovative Roms for our amazing device, and blessing to continue your work. It's been a pleasure updating your great work.

Rodderik for your tons of contributions to the android community.

DRockstar for making our device supported by CWM again, and the 4000000 other contributions to the community.

Google for Android. Seriously. Google. Thanks.

Linus Torvald for obvious reasons.

The Testers and Users who've inspired me to keep my Epic and keep Dev'ing.

toadlife for your contributions to the epic community, and for always being helpful. Not to mention your reboot text fix.

RandomKING for your tweaks, mods and knowledge.

Maddoggn for your relentless hacks to our framework.

Marcsuant - Amazing Themeing. Thank you.

Chris41g for the hotspot and vol hacks.

The CM Epic4g team for opening our device to a whole new world and Yet Another Flash File System [2]

bbelos for another awesome kernel.

and many many many more i've left out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] starskyrob:
Changelog:

01/21/2012 : Beta version uploaded. Theme added[marcsucant]. Updated to latest Shadowkernel. Fixes charging, rom manager redirect and more. Added latest gtalk with vidya. Added viperwheelwidget.apk

Known bug: Theme message boxes are wonky.
[Epic 4G Android Development] djgallis:
Viper is back

welcome back team viper ... Many of us have been waiting for this ... Do the damn thing
[Epic 4G Android Development] starskyrob:
Team viper isn't back :(. I'm just bringing this back from the dead myself haha
[Epic 4G Android Development] djgallis:
oooooooooh damn !!! .. Oh well good to see something new arising ...
[Epic 4G Android Development] DrKaotica:
Flash it like its hot.. can't wait..
[Epic 4G Android Development] tony45x220:
We missed the vipersquad around these threads

Sent from my rooted, suited, & booted Epic 4G #knowdat!
[Epic 4G Android Development] Ceelos09:
Tphilips/BThomas22x were the old ViperROM Devs for our device. You should try and PM them, maybe u guys can collaborate somehow with this project :)

Thanks again for bringing this back Starsky, brings back memories of the old DK28 froyo leaks
[Epic 4G Android Development] farmsatguy:
Lol, don't sound so disappointed! No doubt Starsky will bring back the glory of TeamViper and I'm glad he's picked up where they left off. Trinity was probably the best of the roms (for me anyway) at that time so I'm all onboard!!!

tphillips has already given his blessing, he was the last to officially work on it after BT was sent overseas to aide with the recovery after the earthquake in asia. Wonder how he's doing anyway? Anyone ever hear from him? Last I heard he moved on to the EVO 3D...
[Epic 4G Android Development] The Root:
He joined ACS and devs for the Photon now. He's doing quite well talked to him this morning. He may be doing something for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 soon as well, but he's been enjoying the work already done there.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BopChie:
silly mens
[Epic 4G Android Development] Mohwak:
Glad to see a Viper Rom in the works! Thanks for the work!
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
I chatted with TP on Google+, and he's totally cool with Rob doing the port. I tried to coax him back into Epic OG development, to no avail. Anyway, many thanks to Rob for taking this on, and to former Team Viper for giving us this rich history on which to build!

Rob, I'll PM you for test info.
[Epic 4G Android Development] cavey8500:
i have been waitign for viper to come back! ive always liked vipers work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] farmsatguy:
Thanks for the update, glad to hear he's doing well. He seemed to be a pretty cool dude, patient with noobs, and for damn sure, knew his way around the Epic. The ACS Team has a huge following and some awesome devs in their camp, I'm sure he'll fit right in over there. I'm getting Galaxy Tab 10.1 for my next toy so I'll definitely look out for his work over there.
[Epic 4G Android Development] ksmullins88:
Starsky you sly dog. This is awesome. I love team viper.
[Epic 4G Android Development] GuestK00145:
Will the ViperStore be added to this rom?
[Epic 4G Android Development] DrKaotica:
was this not the wallpaper they used? i remember how cool i thought this was haha
[Epic 4G Android Development] 1midniterider:
There were several wallpapers of interest... which included...
[Epic 4G Android Development] starskyrob:
OK beta is delayed due to me baking in the 10 locks mod, and theming it appropriately. Looking at the weekend for a release!
[Epic 4G Android Development] starskyrob:
Loving that banner texas!

What could i do to get my hands on a texasepic4g banner. I feel so unofficial without one :[
[Epic 4G Android Development] TexasLTE:
LOL ..... all u gotta do is ask ( anything in particular u want on it ? )
[Epic 4G Android Development] starskyrob:
not in particular. i'm terrible at these things. :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] mrcollpepper:
thanks for the banner Texas as well. I hope you don't mind but i grabbed it from you

edit... well apparently i did it wrong, because now it isn't showing up? will try to take it again. lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] TexasLTE:
here u go .... u get the best looking one so far ;)
[Epic 4G Android Development] mrcollpepper:
confirmed... charging while off works and switches to trickle when at 100%
[Epic 4G Android Development] TexasLTE:
glad u like it :D
[Epic 4G Android Development] mrcollpepper:
i did. thanks... do have anything fitting for a self proclaimed albino laying around some where?

great job on the alpha version Starsky!
[Epic 4G Android Development] 1midniterider:
Awlrighty then!!! download in progress...
[Epic 4G Android Development] orlzzt:
The Viperwheel is so awesome! Thanks Starsky, you did an amazing job as usual! And also to TP, BT, Rod and the "alumni". It's just as good as Randyshear made it look on the videos all those eons ago! (Actually, just last April).

"Love & Tolerate"