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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] curreyr:
From the TF201 manual

Seeing that the reviewers had ~36 hours prior to today to evaluate and prepare their reviews, it's unlikely their mules got to maximum capacity.

Also as others have stated, it wouldn't be a surprise if the tf201 "wins some and loses some" when compared to other tablets based on different usage/testing scenarios.

If it doesn't meet my expectations for my usage, I have 2 choices:

1) Determine if my expectations are too high.

2) return the unit and take my chances with something else.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] [TSON]:
They said they hadn't discharged it completely ever before doing the battery test. Its not a fair review.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Selutha:
Also don't forget that the ipad 2 has been in use for some time I am sure that apple has added some tweaks along the way.

I am still excited and biting my nails waiting on it. Though I think it will be fun to bench it yourself and then rebench it after ICS drops. I have an Infuse and the diffrence between the fryo and GB on battery life was huge for me, not counting it felt much smoother. I hope the same things happens for the Prime when ICS drops... Just wish they would give me an official ship date so I could count the days!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] EndUser2012:
Wonder if the Verge is getting money to smear this awesome tablet for the balmer squad...who have yet to even drop in on the tablet market... windows 8 barf! Give Me Android or Give Me Death!

Everything I read leading up to this and what it can do has been top notch... took the galaxy back and am waiting for the prime to come out. I cannot wait though!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Smyc151:
I'm really getting tired of seeing Android vs. iOS debates. Inevitably it's one group of people screaming "apples are better!" and the other replying with "oranges are tastier!" while the lonely WP7 guy pipes in with "I like turtles!"
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] johnchad14:
To the concerns about browser performance not being as snappy as expected:

Keep in mind that ICS browswer is supposedly a big step up (based on Galaxy Nexus tests) so that will improve more soon.

GPU performance? Not worried. Different ecosystem...I'm concerned about having futureproof performance for an android tablet for near future. This offers that. Why worry about what the other side offers? I'm not really sure benchmarks between the OSes are really indicative of anything in a real situation. Anyway, we all made the choice that "buttery smooth" isn't worth tossing certain capabilities, and that's that.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Agreed. And everyone should keep this in mind: I'm willing to bet my left gonad that Google, Nvidia, and ASUS have been spending their time optimizing the Prime for Ice Cream Sandwich, not Honeycomb. I remember one of the reviews (maybe Anandtech?) indicating that the Prime is the reference platform for ICS, and that's where it's really going to shine.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] polbit:
You definitely forgot the REALLY lonely WebOS guy whistling "We are the Champions"...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rynowhi:
I can't post links, but I can do pseudo quotes from Anand:

3rd page

For our video playback battery life test WiFi was on but not actively being used, those numbers should be ok. It's our general use test that loads web pages and downloads emails over WiFi and it's there that I believe things could've suffered a bit.

Final page

I'm also curious to see what having four cores does to web page loading performance. There's clearly an impact on JavaScript rendering, but what about the overall real world experience? In my testing I was limited by the WiFi issue I mentioned earlier, but I hope to have an answer to this soon enough.

What are the chances that this was a huge factor in how The Verge's battery test was run? If you are dissappointed that you can't load aggressive web designs over and over with a power hungry setup (4 cores maxed out) operating from a battery, I don't know what to tell you. That's why there are power options in the first place...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mithent:
It's not what Tegra 3 is designed to shine at, no, and it's not a good indication of battery life during web browsing. Loading pages is a CPU-intensive activity, but this would normally be something you do occasionally, with the majority of the time spent reading pages while the tablet runs happily on the companion core. The point of Tegra 3's architecture is to have the power there when you need it but to get the battery-hungry quad-core out of the way when you don't, so if you're forcing it to run full pelt non-stop it's not surprising that its battery life doesn't beat the dual-core, lower-frequency iPad 2's.

What I am hoping for, though, is better quad-core utilisation in ICS, particularly in the web browser. Most of the reviews don't seem to find that it's much of an improvement over Tegra 2 browser-wise, but ICS is supposed to bring a significant speed bump there.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
I hope so, though Android 4.0 is not really designed for quad-core in mind any more than 3.2. I was surprised to read that a quad-core system does not run the browser significantly faster than a dual-core Transformer does. The whole quad-core thing might be a huge advertised red-herring and the device might be better dual-core with simply more powerful processor.

But I do know that dual-core and Android 4.0 runs quite well, browser is great on my Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy Nexus runs on the same resolution, so I am having my hopes up regardless of the reviews voicing some disappointment.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Cordy:
I see where you are coming from and understand what you mean. I think thats why most people are upset or rather I say disappointed. Most people initially thought that by Tegra 3's being quad-core and inherently the Transformer Prime, there would be huge gains in performance. However as we've all come to realize it's not the case. Now that isn't to say a Quad-Core tablet couldn't outpace a Dual-Core one, it's all about optimization. I'm sure Asus with the help of Nvidia optimized the Prime some to work with Honeycomb but I'm sure they focused more of their efforts on ICS. The truth is Honeycomb was built around dual-core processors while ICS still continues that it also added support for HW Acceleration. So combine the two and you will see huge gains by default for anything that is CPU intensive. The real gain will come with optimizing the OS to actually make use of the Quad-Core SOC otherwise it will just continue to be a slight gain over what we currently have available. Of course this is where we shouldn't worry as we've already seen hints that the Transformer Prime running ICS will outpace the units running Honeycomb. (I can't remember where but there was a demonstration of the Prime w/ Honeycomb running Quadrant and the highest score was a Prime w/ ICS which was almost double the score)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
When buying a quadcore device you should be aware that the raw power of it is meant for playing games, not for getting the UI smooth.

If the UI isn't smooth with Tegra 2 it won't be magically smooth with the Tegra 3... :(
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
Anandtech.com updated the battery time while playing 720p:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5178/an-update-on-transformer-prime-battery-life-wifi-issues

With "Balanced" mode the Transformer Prime is running 2h longer than the Transformer.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] [TSON]:
Um, no. Google specifically said that ICS adds support for "Multi-core" processors to phones and tablets.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Beknatok:
Support for multi-core processing was added back in Honeycomb.

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html

All kristovaher was stating was that ICS does not introduce any major overhaul/features/etc. specifically for quad-core based systems. This is accurate - read the SDK documentation for ICS if you don't believe me.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Mithent:
Games are nice, but I'm more interested in performance in CPU-dependent applications - particularly the web browser, since I spend a lot of my time using that. Flashy demo games are great for showing off, but I doubt there will be many games written with quad-cores in mind for quite some time.

I know there aren't any fundamental changes in the OS. But given that the browser seems to have had a substantial re-working along performance lines, better use of multiple threads is certainly something they might have been working on, given how many multiple-core Android devices are out and coming soon.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] rwniel:
At least according to Nvidia's Tegra 3 demonstration, the extra cores (including the companion core) will be adjusted automatically for a variety of tasks (including web loading/page browsing).

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The demo was done using Android honeycomb on a production Asus transformer Prime. It's meant to be OS agnostic though, but assuming ICS has better optimisation in for example the browser then that should also help with performance. It's early days with the Prime after all - current reviews seemed to have rolled out pretty quickly, but it's once it is in actual user's hands that more in-depth information will come out. On battery life, Anandtech's updated tests do seem more in line with what I was expecting. What I'm also interested in exploring further is to what difference the companion core makes when the Prime is in sleep mode but still technically 'on' (compared to sleep on the original transformer).

Robert
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kokusho:
Actually, there may not be much games exclusively working on Tegra 3 but there will definitely be games that are prettier with the Tegra 3.

Nvidia is pushing developpers to enhance their game especially for the Tegra 3 (shadowgun, riptide, sprinkle, etc..) So Having a Tegra 3 for gaming is going to matter, at least a little and maybe a lot if nvidia push hard enough (which they seems to want to do)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] aawshads:
I think we all need to wait and see what the real battery life and performance of this tablet is. The prime is not running with the os it was designed to run, there has been little optimization made for the cores or the gpu to date, and there are also going to be bugs to work out in ICS when it comes out. You give it 3 months from actually being in people hands and I bet that it beats the ipad 2 by a considerable margin in performance tests, and I bet the battery life far exceeds our expectations. Already yesterday afternoon ASUS pushed out an update that drastically increased the battery life to the test units. With a device like this, the equipment is a game changer, I expect the ipad 3 to best the performance by a little bit, but I anticipate by that time the optimizations made for the prime keep it close. That will only get better as additional quad core tabs come out. I think we all need to take a breath until then, because that is where the final results will become clear.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CoolWaters:
To the OP: I don't know if I'd put much weight on the import of those graphics benchmarks:

http://www.monstertechblog.com/2011/12/02/asus-transformer-prime-vs-ipad-2-side-by-side-gaming/
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
I font want to offend you but if you don't like having more options go for the ipad! These tests are bull**** anyway because you don't just play video with your tablets. You do surfing, reading, gaming etcetc. So the transformer has great potential because it can shut down all cores and only use the companion core.

But haters gonna hate. Get the ipad.

On the gpu discussion who cares about some small power differences? On android you can use all emulators without jailbreak and it has built in gamepad support. Any questions?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Just in case people wondering if this device has poor battery life, check out the new updated Anandtech battery review. First time around around they got faulty device. Now Asus sent them another one and the results are great news for the prime. It's clearly getting best battery life out of all Android tablets and basically comes very close to matching apples battery life. This was also done without even being in power saving mode. If it was, it would've easily matched or surpassed apples ipad1/2 battery life. Also wifi works perfectly fine on it also.

Check it out: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5178/an-update-on-transformer-prime-battery-life-wifi-issues
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
Engadget also posted an update showing the tablet+dock combo getting 16.5 hours. That's awesome in my book...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] MT4G_Slave:
I read a post yesterday about Asus already having a firmware update to fix the battery issue and performance tweaks.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
Questions? Do you even read the posts you quote and reply to? Take a chill pill, it is just a tablet and I am not criticizing your girlfriend.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
Good to hear, but it is still much less when compared to iPad. iPad gets that battery life with best performance, Prime has to have balanced setting to be closer to iPad. It is quite clear that Prime simply is not as good in performance or battery life compared to iPad.

But it is still the best Android tablet, so I am excited and hope 4.0 gets it a little closer to Apple's flagship.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] The Janitor Mop:
+1. I forgot where I saw this but I definitely read the same thing.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] HeavenlyWinds:
The only reason i didnt get an iPad is because it doesnt have Micro SD or Micro HDMI, because it doestn have a decent Dock and because the Asus transformer is getting more for your money (bang for the buck):

Tranformer Prime 32gb+SD Expandable:499$

iPad 2 16gb+iCloud 2gb (If that even counts):499$

See my point? I will always be running it on balanced, even with the dock. And with ICS coming (Which is apparently optimized for multi cores) it is going to be a heck of a tablet. I'm just hoping we can put Windows 8 on it somehow (because it looks amazing and with the dock it will be even better)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
Android 4.0 won't be more optimized for multi-cores. This optimization was already in Honeycomb. We just hope that it runs better, ICS on Galaxy Nexus is quite goodon same resolution.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
How can you tell? Have you compared the sources of HC and ICS? :)

I guess you did according to how loud you shout around here at XDA.:rolleyes:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] The Janitor Mop:
One of the key parts of ICS is that it offers true multi-core support, unlike Honeycomb or Gingerbread. You're right in that Honeycomb does support multi-cores, just like Gingerbread. My HTC Sensation does make use of its dual core. The issue is that current versions of Android don't make efficient use of multi cores. Part of that has to do with the fact that single cores still dominated the market when those versions were rolled out. Now, ICS was designed with the knowledge that by the time it comes out, essentially all Android devices coming out will be multi core. So, aside from the fact that ICS by itself should run smoother and be cleaned up compared to older Honeycomb and gingerbread, the fact that it will now appropriately use the incredible hardware on newer Android devices will add to how much faster these newer devices will be.

Everyone knows that the biggest con of the Transformer Prime has nothing to do with the physical tablet Asus has designed. The biggest con is Android itself in the form of Honeycomb.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sdelliott31:
Last time I checked, TF PRIME hasn't been in the stores yet right? If this is the case, how can so many already be disappointed? Until you get it in your hands and tweaks are made (remember this isn't an ipad.) we won't know how smooth or potentially long or short battery life is. Just my opinion.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
Check your sources again buddy. It was shown that prime easily outpaced ipad2 in performance department. Check out news/previews thread here. Laptop magazine did the moost thorough review as far as doing the most benchmarking tests and such. Plus other reviewers saying it's more powerful than ipad2 with a lot more versatility and potential also.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
I found Asus test scenarios for battery time:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...snt-a-prime-number-but-it-sure-feels-special/

That's wrong. Honeycomb is a true multi-core system. There is no core limitations.

We have several benchmarks in which Tegra 3 is more than 2x times faster than Tegra 2 (Antutu Benchmark, Linpack, CFBench...).

And how do you think could nVidia do their 4-Core show of Glowball if Honeycomb would only use 2 Cores? Magic? :cool:

There are multiple ways to use a multicore system:

.One application is splitting it's workload up to several task

.Multiple independent applications running at the same time

...

What we miss is a generell better software support by google.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] The Janitor Mop:
^Sorry, I assumed Honeycomb was a lot like Gingerbead, which offers quite poor multi-core support. Still, I would argue that since ICS is SO multi-core focused that it will still work much better with multi-core devices than Honeycomb has.

Comparing vids of the TF Prime running ICS and vids of it running Honeycomb, ICS looks WAY smoother and better overall. If a TF Prime running incomplete, unfinished ICS runs faster than a TF Prime running Honeycomb, I'm fully convinced that it will run even better than both with an official update to ICS.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] sontin:
The development system of ICS was OMAP4, a dualcore SoC. ;)

Google is using much more the gpu for rendering instead of using the cpu. So that's the reason why a lot of videos showing a smoother experience.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
The Verge updated the battery statistics on their review recently and it still looks less impressive than the original Transformer in that regard. They did the test on battery saving mode and just 65% of brightness and battery lasted just an hour longer than their initial test. But the battery did last nine hours when just playing 720p video, so if you just watch a video, the battery should last quite a while, albeit less than advertised.

Not going to copy the entire section here, but read the updates here.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] demandarin:
I think the verge has seen been as a source not to credible. Check the widely respected, known, and unbiased updated Anadtech battery test. Their tests and others showed great battery results. Right on par with iPad/ipad2 battery life, and that was balanced mode. Bttery savings would put it past it. Engadget also reported great battery life along with others. That verge source one of the only ones showing not impressive battery stats. Most would put more weight on Anandtech review/battery tests than most others.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
And once again you got your facts wrong... You better learn reading the official statements concerning battery life again...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] icyfiree:
how can you guys be disappointed about the battery life? the verge has clearly got a malfunctioning unit or some thing because all the other reviews got alot better battery time.

And comparing it to the ipad's battery time is not fair, it's like comparing the Bugatti vayron to a Toyota prius and get disappointed that the fuel consumption is much worse on the Veyron
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kristovaher:
Comparing iPad to Prius and Prime to Veyron in that analogy, now that is a bad comparison.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] clouds5:
[trollmode]

dudes the superb ipad is just so friggin awesome there is nothing that comes close in batterylife and performance. Even if it seems like the transformer prime lasts longer in power save mode, the ipad actually holds longer because it is in another dimension.

[trollmode off]

You have to understand, many people with the ipad are very used to having the absolut best device (because there were no other tablets just some months ago) so now their status is in jeopardy. Battery life is a wonderful place to troll because the tablet isnt out yet so everything is basically just speculation on some tests on prerelease models...

I think battery life will be just fine^^ over 10h with 1080p playback (which is quite demanding) is totally nice, i imagine in day to day use it will last even longer. And.... I mean I dont plan on living on an island where i can only charge my stuff once a week.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] new2q9c:
Just wanting to add this review from USA Today

I don't think this is bad at all... review copied and pasted from the site (I'm not allowed to post links yet) :(

"I ran a harsh battery test: Wi-Fi on, brightness cranked way up, high-definition video playing in a continuous loop. I went a shade past 6 hours before the battery pooped out, an impressive showing that suggests the slate will fare much better under more "normal" use."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] digimuzik:
Keep in mind that battery tests are going to have different results based on what you're doing. Playing video on the Prime isn't harsh at all, since it runs all off the companion core. Running a processor-intensive activity like a game constantly would be one of the best tests (aside from having an app that pegs the processor all the time).

I'm not sure all the places that keep reviewing battery life keep this in mind, since with older tablets (perhaps even the i-thingy), running HD video is just as intensive as gaming.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dee32181:
I have an I pad 1 and 2 and I can tell you that when you do things like play infinity blade, you will see battery life closer to 6 hours also. SO PLEASE STOP CHERRYPICKING INFO TO MAKE THE IPAD LOOK SUPERIOR TO THE TRANSFORMER PRIME. They both have strengths and weaknesses, but don't go pulling worthless facts out of your ass to make your reason for trolling seem plausible.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Diamondback:
Well you mention always the "Balanced" mode, what if the Prime is actually faster than the Ipad in BALANCE mode? hm?

All your arguments are gone then. But I know you actually created the prime you know EVERY detail about it, so you even know that the prime has to be way slower than the ipad even on normal mode...:rolleyes:

Stop bashing around here until we all can hold this thing with our own hands.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mi7chy:
No surprise here as it's like a car. The more you red line the engine the lower your fuel mileage will be relative to estimated MPG.