yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] druidt:
Thank you for this!

I have a question and a couple of comments...

I went through the same problems as ic3141 and finally just set the 'Choose navigation program path' option to point to ceMenu (thank you ic3141!). I didn't do it right, went through several loops of installing or reinstall/verify! :confused:

The question is: if we point the navigation path to ceMenu do we even need to install anything?

(if I run on a emulator seems fine without any installation)

The suggestions are:

- make more obvious that you can point to ceMenu (I read the first post a couple times and couldn't find it)

- make the icons original image smaller, at least for lower resolutions - the panels will load much faster - I did it on my system the hard way, one by one :silly:

- ?? rename ceFFM.exe to ceFFMsetup.exe ?? (you see, I'm confused with what to execute, when...)

Anyway it's finally working... :)

Again thank you for ceFFM!

I have the cvgx-c14-2gen 480x272 that was discontinued from the place I go it.

(I would post a link but I don't know if that ok...)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE

[MENTION=3196541]druidt[/MENTION],

If you directly run skin-engine CEMenu then no customizing is done at all, means all user-changeable run-time parameters as listed in file ceFFM.ini are ignored.

1. Not recommended by me as (hopefully clearly) explained above

2. Yes, ceFFM only comes with one 128x128-sized icon-set, intended to be used on a 800x480 screen (ceFFM basically was developped for). 128x128 is the default icon size used in Windows Phone / Windows 8 - very fingerfriendly. If in general only a smaller-sized icon-set would exist (ex. 64x64), each enlargement unsharps the icon. Whereas a reduction doesn't unsharp an icon.

EDIT:

Found a Win32 freeware utility with which you can batch-convert the icons, means rescale them: ImageResizer. I've attached its installer. Note that ImageResizer adds to Explorer's context menu.

3. Of course ceFFM.exe could be renamed to ceFFMsetup. Will think about this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Googled for it. This Stargate product running CE 5.0 has a 7'' screen with 480x234 resolution, which is not uncommon for AIOs. Note that ceFFM in general is NOT intended to be used on AIOs. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] druidt:
1 - I'm not convinced :) the hardcoded defaults should be "perfect" for non installation option, the defaults on the ini file should be "perfect" for installation option.

2 - I don't know where my reduce size icons are, maybe just on the SD card... (I'm fighting my desktop at home - changing linux distro...) - I'll use the utility you found! I got a new class 10 SD card and it also made faster (as expected...)

Yes, it is described all over as 480x234 but the system reports 480x272... ?

I guess I can try to fit a 272 tall wallpaper and see if it is cut...

It's fine on my AIO :) I can easily jump from the original menu to ceFFM/GPS with one hard button press!

My first panel on ceFFM as just a few entries to show the wallpaper (I'm very found of my new car nav, I had to cut my car to fit it in :) )

I made the left menu much bigger.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zuuperspek:
ceFFM error during installation

Hello XDA-developers,

I am Peter from the Netherlands new here and i want to try the ceFFM software on my Chinese carradio.

When i install de ceFFM it stops by the next error:

String to find must be at least one chartacter

Line 4856 (\StrorageCard\ceFFM.mscr):

If(find (val,title)&&(NOT find(val,version)))

What do i have to do? i hope you can help me.:fingers-crossed:

Greetings from Arnhem,

Peter van der Spek
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE

Strange thing, this. Can't reconstruct it. To suppress the error cause

Go to line #333

upgrade=@TestOnOutdatedInstallation(titleCeFFM,versionCeFFM)

Change it to

upgrade=0

Starting from 15.August I am for 3 weeks in vacation ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zuuperspek:
Thanks

Hello jwoegerbauer,

Thanks for your comment, thursday i will try it.

Saterday i am for 2 weeks in vacation. Have a nice vacation:good:

Peter
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ypsmav:
Hi,

Have you tried the Conduits Pocket player on WinCE?

I've been looking into a music player for my WinCE 6 in-dash unit (roadRover I9 800x480).

The default player works ok, but it does not read the covers of the wma files and does not have a search song functionality.

I've tried Nitrogen (works, but have problems refreshing the screen after menus), TCPMP (I can't make the skins to work, and the size of the menus make it unusable) and others.

The Conduits Player seems very nice, after editing the default sking, it looks great on the screen. The only issue is that for an unknon reason it is not reading the mp3 files... it may need a little tweaking. probably a missing dll.

Anyone has tried?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE

Conduits Pocket Player is NOT part of any ceFFM distribution, and never will become it, this because it is not freeware. You should consider to start a new thread to get your question answered. Note that I won't invest time to try to get Conduits Pocket Player (commercial WinMO product) working under WinCE. Thanks for your understanding.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE:

1.

In subfolder \programs you'll find pre-configured shortcuts to many well-known navigation softwares, you might have one of them in use.

Examples:

iGO Primo -> 29#"\NandFlash\Primo\Primo.exe"

Sygic -> 40#"\NandFlash\Drive\Drive.exe"

It's on you to edit these shortcut files so they match reality, means you put there the real filepathnames in. You know neither iGO nor Sygic navigation software comes with ceFFM?

2.

To delete a navigation software's icon from ceFFM's menu, you simply remove the corresponding line in file navigation.cemenu.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] b4rtek:
'I cant install it on windows ce car 2din china player.

Flag files created by jnstaller:

Crash.txt

DefaultsSaved.flag

MortScriptToolhelpProvided.flag

OldInstallationDeleted.flag

ShellFoldersDetermined.flag

SystemCleanedPassOne.flag

VitalCEFilesSaved.flag

[MENTION=2358955]WhatThis[/MENTION]FolderIsFor.txt

Crash.txt:

ceFFM Crash Log Begin

Current system time: 00:01:18 01/01/2008

OS version: Embedded CE 6.0

Memory Stats (RAM):

Total Memory: 111 MB

Free Memory: 95 MB

Storage Memory Stats (\):

Free DiskSpace: 448 KB

Start-up Applications [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init] :

Launch20 device.dll

Launch30 gwes.dll

Depend30 1400

Launch60 servicesStart.exe

Depend60 1400

Launch50 ceLaunch.exe

Depend50 14001E00

Launch90 \NANDFlash\FileTest.exe

Depend90 14001E00

Shell Folders [HKLM\System\Explorer\Shell Folders] :

Application Data \Application Data

Desktop \Windows\���

Favorites \Windows\Favorites

Fonts \Windows\Fonts

My Documents \My Documents

Program Files \Program Files

Programs \Windows\���

Recent \Windows\Recent

StartUp \Windows\�

Windows \Windows

Could someone plz help me ?

It hangs on preparig to install... few dots and it stops withous anything.

If mentioned logs ang flag files tells anybody what happend and why it stuck?

P.S. those special characters in path's are china's ;]
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tramtrist:
CEFFM

Hello,

When ceFFM tries to "install" it asks me where it should install. There are 4 choices I have. One SDCARD and 3 flash memory locations. Which should I choose? I'd rather not blow away my default radio app ..

Thanks,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE: it asks me where it should install

If you're afraid to mess anything up, then use SD-card. Be aware of fact, that installing it this way, some files will be copied to internal flash-drive.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] navigacija1:
Thanks for you software!

I have just installed it on my GPS navigator. Here is a very serious problem- the Screen Rotation button is too much on the Right.

When I accidentally press it, it becomes out of screen so I cannot press it again to resume normal work. I have to restart the device to return the screen in normal position.

IMHO the Screen Rotation button should be moved to the left. If you tell me a way to remove it, it will be best solution for me.

Also, there was a problem during installation- a message was shown, that some image editor was not instaleld properly or link was not installed properly.

Another very huge drawback: Virtual keyboard comes without Cyrillic support. How am I to add one?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] navigacija1:
Two other problems occurred:

1. After installing ceFFM the Sound of my GPS device (Serioux UrbanPilot Q550T2) disappeared. Volume in the device setup was set to 0 and it refused to store a higher value. I removed ceFFM and still no sound. Finaly I reset the device from its menus and now I have sound.

2. Uninstall of ceFFM does not work in the way explained in the instruction. After setting Uninstall=1 and restarting the device, a dialog Uninstall device yes/no is displayed for a while and then the GPS own menu is shown.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE

a) Move Screen Rotation button topmost left:

Your devices screen resolution is 480x272. Hence in ceFFM's file "startup480x272.cemenu" simply swap lines 25 and 37

b) Image Editor not installed properly:

Ignore those messages.

c) Virtual keyboard comes without Cyrillic support:

Do you relate to "FingerKeyboard" ?

If yes, then ask your question here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=501434

If no, and you relate to "EuroKeyboard", then I only can say it comes with "Russian" support.You have to configure "EuroKeyboard" by yourself.

1) Sound disappeared:

ceFFM doesn't disable device's sound.

2) After uninstall GPS own menu is shown:

Confirms ceFFM no longer is the menu shown. What else did you expect?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] navigacija1:
I did it, as far as I rememeber nothing happened. Hopefully next time when I decide to install ceFFM I will try again. But I suppose everyone with the same screen has the same problem, that is why it sounds reasonable to me to put the button on another place.

I am talking about the virtual keyboard, which can be launched from the button bar in the bottom of the screen.

I will check your proposal.

When I try again I will report back if it does not disappear.

No, maybe I was not descriptive enough. After setting Uninstall=1 and restarting the device, a dialog Uninstall device yes/no is displayed for a while (1-2 seconds) and then the GPS own menu is shown. So, it is not possible to press Yes, and therefore it is not possible to uninstall the app by the uninstaller. The next time I restart I have the same dialog again, and again I cannot press Yes.

Also, for some reason my device (Win Ce6.0) won't run mscr files. Should I install something else?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] isutarov:
chinese 2 din ceFFM issues

i instaled ceFFM in my chinese 2 din with WIN CE 6.0 ..

after uninstaling of ceFFM i lost the sound from my device completly..

since no sound DVD App and AV in were not working at all..

Navigation and MMC/USB player were working but no sound at all from them..

after 3 days of checking for issues i found that the default sound driver of WinCE Wavedev.dll was renamed into Wavedev2.dll after uninstall of ceFFM ! i couldnt rename it back to Wavedev.dll but i menaged to edit the registry and changed

HKLM\Drivers\Builtin\WaveDev\ to use Wavedev2.dll

after that the DVD app started to working normal and sound was there also ... AV IN also is ok now..

but still no sound from Navigation and MMC player APP ..

i found that this service cannot start wapiman_acm that is using waveapi.dll

maybe that is the problem but i cannot menage to fix that..

any advice would be helpfull
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE:

Now I can see what probably causes the "no sound" problem after having uninstalled ceFFM.

ceFFM - if forced by ceFFM's settings to do so - replaces WinCE's default sound driver by "WOWHD_ARM_WCE_PPC2005_Driver.dll".

For example:

Before

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Wave Dev]

"DLL" = "default-wavedev.dll"

After

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Wave Dev]

"DLL" = "WOWHD_ARM_WCE_PPC2005_Driver.dll"

"OldDriver" = "default-wavedev.dll"

In case of ceFFM's uninstall, this change isn't made undone. Sorry for this. But because the "old driver" got rememberd to undo the change in driver you simply replace in

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Wave Dev]

value of "DLL" with value of "OldDriver"

I will revise current latest version of ceFFM accordingly, ASAP.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] isutarov:
still problems

can you check what else unistalling does?

after fixing the issue with Wavedev2.dll ( win ce6 in my case uses that as audio driver ) still no sound from some app ..

WaveAPI PCM converter is not started.. when i check in services runing..

location in registry

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WAPIMAN_ACM]

"Prefix"="ACM"

"Dll"="waveapi.dll"

"Index"=dword:9

"Order"=dword:1

"Flags"=dword:2

but in service runing it shows that wapiman_acm is unloaded ..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE:

Neither the WOWHD driver installable via ceFFM, nor ceFFM itself makes changes to

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WAPIMAN_ACM]

registry key. And I'm pretty sure such a registry key only exists on AIO units, because those have additional audio hardware. It seems to me that you have installed ceFFM on an AIO unit: must admit that ceFFM never was tested on such a device, only on different PNAs and in Emulator.

In CE 5 and CE 6 drivers for add-on audio hardware have their registry entries in the

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Builtin\Audio]

registry key to store configuration information. The Device Manager creates a

[ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active]

registry key for the audio driver when the driver is loaded at startup. So you have

to check whether the drivers for add-on audio hardware are loaded at startup.

Example

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\Audio]

"Prefix"="WAV"

"Dll"="wavedev2_sgtl5000.dll"

"Index"=dword:1

; NOTE: Load order must direct the WAVEDEV to load

; before other peripherals using SDMA. Doing

; so allows the WAVEDEV DMA data structures

; to be allocated in IRAM and supports audio

; SDMA-to-SSI transfers without EMI accesses

"Order"=dword:4

"Priority256"=dword:95

"IClass"=multi_sz:"{A32942B7-920C-486b-B0E6-92A702A99B35}",

"{37168569-61C4-45fd-BD54-9442C7DBA46F}"

; Flags==2 is DEVFLAGS_LOADLIBRARY

; Uncomment this line to make the driver pageable

; "Flags"=dword:2

BTW here some CE 6 registry entry examples ( I found in the Internet ) concerning the Audio driver implemented on AIO devices:

1.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WAPIMAN]

"Prefix"="WAM"

"Dll"="waveapi.dll"

"Index"=dword:00000001

"Order"=dword:00000001

"Flags"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WAPIMAN_ACM]

"Prefix"="ACM"

"Dll"="waveapi.dll"

"Index"=dword:00000009

"Order"=dword:00000001

"Flags"=dword:00000002

2.

; Override wave API load order to follow audio driver

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WAPIMAN]

"Order"=dword:5

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WAPIMAN_ACM]

"Order"=dword:5

HTH
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] isutarov:
...further

first i want to thank you for helping me to sort this out..

i checked in hklm\drivers\active

and there i found under name "15" key for wavedev driver (WAV1:) and under name "18" for waveapi (WAM1:) ..

and theese 2 drivers are loaded and active ..

i didnt find key from wapiman_acm (ACM9:) which in not loaded..

so definetly the problem is there..

i tried addin new key named "17" and write to it the same values as WAM1: but it seems i cannot write to the registry here..

after reboot of the device the new key is deleted.. also i dont know the HWD value for ACM9:

maybe you can help me further :)

thank you very much
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE:

I'm convinced the troubles you have still have nothing to do with ceFFM's installation. As mentioned in post #1

so you should be able to completely restore your AIO's registry to ceFFM's pre-installation state, unless you have not deleted this backup.

No more clue from my side what you can do. Pitty.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mmcluke:
"Get volume error"

I installed ceFFM 0.3.5 in my Aquarius Discovery Channel GPS and during the installation I received an error message "Get volume error", and every time I restart the device appears the installation screen. When I go to the default screen of the device the message appears. I tried to ininstall ceFFM by changing the 0 value with 1 in the ini file, it says is uninstalling but whe it restarts the ceFFM is here again. I noticed that there is no sounds either. Please can anyone help me?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Baltasar1:
Why installed obsolete version?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mmcluke:
It was by accident, I was testing several menus I have in my sd card and this was the second I tried. And now there is no sound in the GPS, when the device is turned on "Get volume error" and every time I try to play a music there's an error message "Error initializing output device". Can anyone help me?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mcowher:
This mod is awesome! Now I just need to figure out how to ResFix my 1600x480 WinCE 6.0 based Kia GPS system.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE

Don't know whether this will be helpful, haven't tried it:

http://www.gencoupe.com/electrical-wiring-2008-2012/52643-stock-nav-hack-18.html#post1290100
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mcowher:
The problem is that the various versions of ResFix I've seen all run on WinCE 5.0, not 6.0. Are you aware of a ResFix that runs on 6.0?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ulysse84:
Hi jwoegerbauer,

Just install your ver 0.4 on my GPS device in car thru GPS SD slot, I direct Navi path to ceFFM.exe and push Navi button for running installation. The installation was successful but after rebooting this GPS device nothing happen, it started the menu as usual but did not launch CeFFM. I pushed Navi button again and it re-installed CeFFM.

I read thru your topic and unfortunately didnt find the answer for this issue. Can you advise, please?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE

Windows CE 6.0 ? Windows CE 5.0 ? Windows CE ???? It's important for me to know this, this because only in Windows CE 6.0 it is guaranteed that the modifications in CE's registry - which ceFFM makes - are persistent.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BassamKassem:
Dear jwoegerbauer

Reference to your reply @ AUSTECH regarding the deleted register file .. is it possible to re-create or download the file itself cause the already formatted the SD Card by mistake .. sorry for causing so much troubles but you are my only resort..

thanks

Bassam
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Oh man, the saved Windows CE 6.0 registry was attributed "read only" so basically user should have had difficulties to manually delete it from SD-card. But you formatted the SD-card ... And: Did ceFFM's uninstall feature - which should restore CE's registry, not work?

Now you need a friend ( do you have friends? ) who owns the same device as you have to make a copy of this device's registry and give it to you, if you can't contact manufacturer and/or seller of the device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BassamKassem:
No luck of finding friend using same unit , Thanks a million for your efforts and support.. i'll try to figure something out or another solution

Thanks

Bassam
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PDerryberry:
Chinavasion 5" GPS Wince Access Via ceFFM

Downloaded the 'authorized' version, unzipped it, copied to the microsd card of my Chinavasion 5" GPS which runs Wince 6. It has the 'navi path' option so I pointed it to ceFFM.exe. The install looked fine except for a couple of error messages which I clicked through (should have wrote them down - I know better). It said the install was successful, then rebooted the device. The problem is that it continues to reboot the device, apparently caught in a loop. If I pull the micro sd card out and boot the device, it goes back to 'normal'. My main objective is to be able to access the base Wince 6 operating system as I am a VB Net programmer and would like to install some custom programs. Thanks for all your efforts on this. BTW, I have tried various REGEDIT programs with no success so far.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
RE

Can't see any reason why your device goes into an endless boot-loop if ceFFM is used. Never this was reported before.

How to get into your Chinavision 5'' GPS device:

Switch device's USB mode to "Serial Class" mode, if it's mode actually is "Mass Storage" mode.

If device's USB mode is "Serial Class" mode then you should be able to access your device via USB with Microsoft's proprietary software Windows Mobile Device Center (WMDC).

If you can access the device via WMDC, install on your Windows PC the free-of-charge tool CeRegEditor in order to access device's registry.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] PDerryberry:
In Response

I've already tried the Mobile Device Connection which replaced the Active Sync, but it never saw the device. So I am a bit of a loss as to how to proceed at this point.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mstombs:
I like the look of this, so gave it a try on my Chinese satnav (480x272, 4.3 screen, 128MB, wince 6.0).

There were a few non-fatal errors on running the 0.4.0 prog from sd card (couldn't move/rename ReWall.png ? etc), but the install failed to replace the satnav meno, and I couldn't find a way of running it so I tried to uninstall. The uninstall did not run due to syntax errors in the ceFFM.mscr file, for example

line 335

If(NO==Question(txt,titleCeFFM,"YesNo"))

I patched this to

If("NO" EQ Question(txt,titleCeFFM,"YesNo"))

same line 447

line 466, missing close bracket

If(RegKeyExists("HKLM","init\OldDriver")

same line 471

This must mean I am the only user who tried uninstalling! But I wonder if install has similar code erors?

With these corrections the uninstall did run, with one non fatal error - it tried and failed to delete an autorun file

I did keep a reg backup in ceregedit, the uninstall does not clean this up, I don't see how to restore this, but seems non-fatal at the moment.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ranomez:
I installed this but many things were not working (the settings button and a lot of apps) so I decided to uninstall it and got lots of errors about being unable to delete files in the UI_APP and Windows folders in the main nand and now my Goclever 5040 (Windows CE 5.0) boots but to a black screen, I think it messed up the existent oem mainshell so I can't do anything, anyone has any idea what to do to fix it?

Also I had to enable mass storage mode instead of active sync so I can't use the active sync programs to launch other things already on the gps.

EDIT: I managed to fix the mainshell by re-copying the UI_APP folder (thankfully I made a back up) but windows explorer is still broken and the registry keys are messed up, could someone tell me how to restore the snapshot, perhaps [MENTION=1890170]jwoegerbauer[/MENTION] ?

Also could anyone give me a backup of their windows folder from a win ce 5.0 device?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] facsi2:
Had the same problems. I had to uninstall because I got a lot of Volume errors. Luckly I could uninstall.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zorg667:
Need help uninstalling

I need ceFFM off my head unit as it has completely ruined it. When I try to uninstall it I get the error

Line 335 (\StorageCard\ceFFM.mscr):

[[(NO==Question(xl,lileCeFFM,*YesNo*}}

Please help, I need my car stereo back. I am running Windows CE 6.0 if that helps.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mayer2:
Have ceFFM in use. Works flawlessly.

In script ceFFM.mscr line 335 reads as If(NO==Question(txt,titleCeFFM,"YesNo"))

But line 335 should read as If(NO=Question(txt,titleCeFFM,"YesNo"))

The error there is the double equal sign. So in script ceFFM.mscr replace ALL double equal sign by a single equal sign. I say ALL because in line 347 similar syntax error to be found.

Should work.

HTH

BTW: ceFFM backs up the registry when is installed. The backup is located on SD-card. So you can restore your CE 6.0 if uninstall fails. This already said some posts above.