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[HTC Sensation] tinker2000:
Hi tinky,

What this lot fail to realise is that phones turn down the gain on their antenna amplifiers if there is a good signal. Most people will have experienced their phones warming up in the pocket; this is most likely due to the amplifier gain being increased to keep the signal. More gain = more power consumed:)
[HTC Sensation] Conj:
Taking one look at the poll, just says how wrong the OP is. ;)

Just try as many roms as possible, thats what I did. You will find something you like.

Personally, my favorites (in no particular order) are, Coredroid, Revolution HD, and Sensay.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I don't think I'm wrong I just think that what I expect from my Android device is different to what most users will expect. And yes there is much bigger choice of fully developed roms if you like sense. simply sensation does not fulfil my expectations. I must remind you that I already tried many roms on my Android devices I know which were my favoured simply they have many bugs on sensation.
[HTC Sensation] naimmkassim:
Agree on this..higher gain caused higher juice battery..i always facing this when phone signal change to GPRS..
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Indeed tinker.

People, analogy. You roll a barrel on horizontal surface (good signal), some effort (battery) required, and you are not too hot, just comfortable. Now increase the angle (worsen the signal) and you need more energy to push barrel up the hill, you'll get tired quicker (battery will deplete quicker) and you will sweat like a pig (do pigs sweat?).

OP, ignore fanboys. They fail to understand that this is about YOU not them. Clearly, you looked into it and this phone doesn't suit your needs. I'd change the phone if I was you.
[HTC Sensation] Sibbi:
I was referring to same signal quality. Otherwise a comparison wouldn't make any sense!

And in this case Gprs is more battery friendly.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Indeed! There might be many reasons for that, maybe my model is more faulty, maybe it is only my previous good experience with android devices and bad with this one, maybe my battery is just faulty (will find out soon waiting for anker), maybe I had few first bad choices with custom ROMs and there is plenty awesome out there (Hypersensation so far is better then any my previous experience with CM7 on any other device) I just started accidentally with buggy ROMs.

There might be many reasons I think one of the biggest on my side, but on the other side people like to justify they spending even if decision wasn't really good one then they still tend to praise whatever they bought trying to focus on pros. Also they often tend to think that price = quality which is hardly true (a specially in this case if you compare it with HTC Desire, I compared it mostly with this device however everyone who argue with me pick on my compare with Wildfire or compares with Vibrant, no one decided to bash my compare with Desire as this device is clearly twice cheaper and better in most aspects, so it does not fit their picture, typical to ignore that kind of facts) but that is the way human beings think.

At the end of the day I am with device that I spend unreasonable time to fix (when I do have more important things to do at uni and with my bicycle) and unreasonable amount of money to make it usable (anker batteries and charger) , and as I like some aspects of it ( screen, pdf reading speed, skype functionality and now Hypersensation ROM) I struggle more then I would expect for money that I paid, and I wonder how many people will actually clearly say that comparing to Desire S or HD this phone provides functionality adequate to extra money spent? On Hypersensation I can say that yes it is faster, on stock ROM it wasn't, so really there was no point on paying so much more for worst battery performance and similar speed and functionality.

So this topic is a warning to anyone who wants to buy it and value mostly battery life and don't play 3D games! This phone will not provide you with any significant progress in terms of functionality to some previous models and will significantly drain your battery if you are heavy user. I know most people don't think this way and they enjoy their 3d games but I don't care, and heavy users who value same things as I do (battery life, surfing, ebooks reading, using skype and simple ROMs without sense like miui or CM7) should seriously think about cheaper options which will fulfil their expectations easily.
[HTC Sensation] creepinm3:
I got this after moving up from a Samsung Vibrant. I've been a big fan of HTC build quality and sense UI. With my phone I have standard battery and iI pull 24 hours with Insertcoin rom and bricked XE beta 2 at 1.5 this is a huge improvement in my book.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Today I had day off at work and uni so it was moderate use for me as I tend to spend more time on my laptop on my days off. still far below expectations so I don't know how some people can claim two days on 3 hours screen time. Unless they use different battery or something because as you can see on underclocked processor and really light rom I don't reach 12 hours.
[HTC Sensation] rawrfische:
That's a lot of time on the camera, which is a huge battery hog. I'm assuming cm-based rom? What pictures could you possibly be taking with the crappy aosp cam? :D

Kidding aside, I'd just hold onto the Sensation a wee bit longer because it seems like cm9 is nearing alpha, which seems like something you would like. But if you just can't wait, sell the darned thing. It's your choice in the end.

I have a love hate relationship with my phone, but in the end I just don't feel like spending more money. So I'll be here a while haha.
[HTC Sensation] Sibbi:
I wouldn´t call that light or moderate usw. It´s still heavy. Standby with everything turned off (wifi, data. sync etc.) doesn´t use much energy. So it is all about the screen-on time. 3,5 hours is pretty good. My old DESIRE (EDIT: NOT sensation :D) did 4 hours, but has a much smaller Screen and was not nearly as powerfull as the Sensation.

Honestly, I understand your complaints, but there is not one single Phone on the market with similar specs, that would fullfill your needs. (My old desire would last 16 hours with my use, which is not as heavy as yours...)

I´m excited to hear about the results you´ll get with Anker...
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I love CM ROM :D I did not made any videos only took 4-5 pictures that is it so I was kind of surprised that those few pictures took so much battery.... However it might be just incorrect reading I normally sue my camera every few days and battery life wasn't ever longer then 14 hours, and I ma now after 4 full cycles so it still might improve within few days. It kind of worries me what my camera is doing when I am not using it :D
[HTC Sensation] brilldoctor:
For those moaning about speed wait for the ics ota
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Desire was, and to be fully honest, I know people will now bash me but Wildfire was the nearest thing. I will give you screens form my Wildfire as my wife is still using it and on CM6 everything works damn fast, even if screen is not half as nice as Sensation.. damn not even 1% as nice then at the end of the day all I do is using google reader, reading books and surfing on internet, I don't watch movies, I take pictures only if necessary which is usually 1-2 pictures a week I don't play any damn games and on wildfire I could do that whole day long and battery last 36 hours easily!!! There were only two things that I was missing on my wildfire was smooth pdf reading (I had to limit myself to epub) and skype breaking up. And desire, well battery wasn't great but it was good enough and pdf and skype were excellent on both HD and S. I regret I did not tried WIldfire S I think it might be right option. At the end of the day I use phone as ebook/blog reader mostly and surfing device plus language learning device (Ankidroid FTW) so I have no idea why I bought this high tech piece of rubbish that dies on me after few hours of use.

And I appreciate your honesty mate, because some people claim 3 hours screen use a day and 48 hours on their sensation, this is just not possible.
[HTC Sensation] brilldoctor:
You can and the sensation is better
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
In terms of battery life it is not. In every other aspect, yes it is. But it is again going to become a discussion on which you will try to convenience London taxi driver that he need Ferrari... if you know what I mean.
[HTC Sensation] stratax:
im with you on that, i love HTC hardware/software, etc. it seems theyve always been ontop of things, i dont see why people give them so much hate. i mean compare it to motoblur its much more boring and much more boring lol. TW i havent had much hands on so i cant say much.

point is, its HTC hardware, HTC made the software to run on the hardware so it will run better with less bugs then most new roms made for it, hence why CM has bugs. (not talking about sense ROMs that are modded, etc). also for people who like motoblur isnt going to buy a HTC device because it would be hard to port, vice versa. i buy htc devices because i like sense :)

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its not comparable because the wildfire isnt even in the same category as the sensation. wildfire is midranged phone for people who dont need/want the huge screen with dualcore cpu, etc.

thats like comparing the iphone with the pantech matrix almost lol, and someone saying the iphone sucks because the battery isnt as great as the pantech..
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Whatever you say you can still compare it, either by battery life, screen size, speed , benchmark et.c whichever category applies to sensation it does applies to Wildfire it is just like comparing single core computers with CRT vs the newest computer with LCD you can compare but first one will always look much worst but for some people who lets say use only open office, both will represent same functionality. Simple as that.
[HTC Sensation] kkndgr:
I am not a sensation fanboy for starters but more like HTC due to the build quality ,looks ,specs and ofcourse sense allthough Iam using miui on my HTC desire.after using for a month my sensation for sure I can see only one negative thing that is the buttery ofcourse but then again I am heavy user and from what I can tell my lovable HTC desire wasnt doing much better.3 days ago a friend got his upgrade sg2 he is heavy user him self and for sure he wasn't getting much better results out of his battery.specs wise the sesnation is awesome for my taste and in comparison to the other phones out there .as for the battery its technology limitations that do not allow this kind of battery to do much better or at least as much as we like.that's the reason the companies like Samsung ,Toshibaetc working already on alternatives .
[HTC Sensation] sly.cooper:
I have jumped from Moto XT5 to Sensation so that's a huge leap for me in terms of hardware :D. Overall I am very happy with the device. Battery life is debatable topic and is purely based on usage. I am still OK to charge my sensation once a day or charge it while working (USB). I would definitely say that custom ROM's do make huge difference in terms of performance, battery and overall experience. I rooted my sensation in a week's time as the original software was buggy and I did not want to go with the stupid suggestion of "factory reset" by HTC support. I have so far rooted moto xt5, LG optimus one and moto defy (and sensation). All three had shown noticeable performance and battery improvements post installing custom ROMs.

May be you can try different ROM's and something might work for you. I am currently on insertcoin and happy in terms of performance and battery.

Good luck with whatever device you plan to use.
[HTC Sensation] Moh Moh:
Overall I'm pretty happy with my XE.

In truth though, I was a bit baffled by the low choice of ROMs. Coming from the Desire, with a far more varied sortment of ROMs, scared me a bit in the start. But I realized quickly that with a good AOSP (or CM in my case) and minimal theming skills, you can make a super fast, battery saving ROM that looks pretty much any way you want :)

I say no need for tons of ROMs, the ones we have are excellent. And with an ICS ROM for Sensation (hopefully) not too far off, this phone won't be replaced for quite a while :)

Only thing that really bothers me is the goddamned curved edges of the screen. I just can't get the screen protectors to stick properly without bubbling up around the sides...

-.-
[HTC Sensation] stratax:
well the reason i say what i said is because it is pretty obvious which would have the better battery. im not sticking up for the sensation at all.. if i wanted a good battery life, i would pick the wildfire, if i wanted a badass phone perioid i would pick the sensation lol. everyone has a different preference right? i just dont see what the point of complaining is if you already knew the battery life would be bad. my atrix even had bad battery life when it had a way bigger battery and a smaller screen with more battery friendly technology. i would never go back to it though
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
8h 30 min and less then 15 % I went through 5 full cycles and calibration before, I underclocked processor, changed ROM 3 times, I tried juice defender, different internet connections, screen brightness 23% and never reached more then 14 hours on this battery! I can give you screens and more screens but I have tried everything and its just not possible. I find it difficult to study on my phone with that battery life. Lucky my two anker batteries where dispatched today so I will just carry them with me. Since I'm on hypertension and I am delighted by it I won't be selling this device if each anker battery will give me at least 10 hours if less I will sell it. One more screen for today.

Where are people that claim 48h on battery e with 3 h screen time? Show me you r screenshots
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Something is wrong. I've NEVER seen android to be higher than screen. This is abnormal, so send it back and tell them you have bad battery drain. Tell them you tried factory reset, borrowed friends official battery etc.
[HTC Sensation] Sibbi:
I too was wondering about that... It could have something to do with cm7. Maybe the reading is different there.
[HTC Sensation] CdTDroiD:
Thats a rom bug whatever rom your using shouldnt be using anywhere near that much on android system
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
I though about it too at first. But guy said that he tried all the roms out there with not much luck. One of two here. Hardware fault or massive "user error".
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Would had to unroot it. Too much effort if I already bought two batteries. Not to mention that I doubt am I the only one with that battery drain on this model, it is common problem.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
No its not, not to this extent anyway. As I said, either hw problem or user error (or you are trolling lol)
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
All combined? :) but seriously those are pictures mate you can not make it up. About ROM I'm not the only person using it, about configuration I am happy for suggestions but I even underclocked processor so I have no idea what more can be done and I described into details what I tried or changed so what now?
[HTC Sensation] naimmkassim:
Try to use different phone (sensation). Exchange it with your friend and use it for 1 cycle battery charge & check it weather the condition same or not :)

If same, means you are superb heavy user. If not same, means your phone is problem.
[HTC Sensation] Sibbi:
Best thing to do is ask in hypersensation-thread if everybody elses drain from display is that low. If yes, it is just a bug in the rom (reading might be faulty).

--> I would bet on that!

Have your new batteries arrived in the meantime?
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Batteries were dispatched yesterday but since 8am I wasn't home so I don't know are they already there.

I would assume that reading is faulty as it shows camera as a battery drainer while I took only 2 pictures.the fact is that it doesn't matter, with any other ROM you will not get more then 12 hours

With 3 hours screen use on stock battery and no one proofed me different so far.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Sorry mate, but I don't have to prove anything. I KNOW my battery lasts longer than what you say. Either accept it and admit something is wrong your side and we will try to find out what it is, or just get another phone and stop repeating yourself..
[HTC Sensation] masondoctorjt:
I was thinking that to. My phone never even registers Android System...
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
You are the only one repeating yourself mate. For 10 pages you saying that it is hardware or user mistake but whenever I ask about details what exactly can it be you don't give any answers! I mention at least few things that I changed with same battery life result. And on top of that I'm not only one reporting that kind of battery life, sensation forum is full of it, so it is either that your battery life is unusual it you are light user or you not telling the true. At the end of the day it doesn't matter which one is true, fact is that you don't give any exact solutions to this so I have no idea why are you writing.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I don't know why did you guys focused so much on that particular reading. I'm 99% sure that it is incorrect and it doesn't matter because I reached what most users using on stock battery and I reached same on any other ROM that I tried, that eliminates software out settings issue. Whatever is left is hardware damage or I am using it too heavily and stock battery simply last that long with that kind of use . I'm assuming second option and if any of those is true then it is not phone for me and I need to get rid of it unless anker battery will solve it.if it is hardware then again I need to get rid of it.

Edit: and on top of that with that reading which you gave your battery will last more or less 15h so clearly it is not much longer then my. More or less I think I get best I could with heavy use and I doubt can it be much better.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Damn! I knew it! I was right in the end, even though i defended you from the beginning.

Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present you..... (tam ta ra ram!!!) THE TROLL!

Yeah, Sensation battery is ****, you were light all along, go get yourself another phone and stfu.

I think it's kinda pointless, as there is evidence that something is wrong on your side (your screenshot) but you still refuse to accept the truth. Lame my friend, lame. Wasted time.

If you are using it THAT heavy, then no smartphone on the market (currently) will be sufficient for your needs.
[HTC Sensation] Babydollll:
Maybe you should buy an iPhone and stop cluttering up the forum with your complaining.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Cry more. if you are so clever I am more then opened to change whatever it is wrong on my side.... Oh wait you did not mention what might that be....
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Ok. What do you expect from a phone? Not sensation, but any smartphone. What are your expectations of battery life while doing whatever you are doing (please specify- video, browsing, gaming).
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Ooh yeah mate if you so clever buy me one....no wait I still don't want it.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
16h+ battery life, with reading ebooks, sending texts and surfing with 3-5 hours screen on.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Best quote ever about your suggestions saying that you get more on stock battery. Easy option to get 48 hours battery life on sensation. Of course I don't mind suggestions but we run out of ideas except hardware damage and many people reports that kind if battery life on sensation so..... Yes so what...any exact solutions?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Not possible on stock battery, well possible but unlikely (any high end smartphone is the same), possible on Anker, I get that and more on Anker.
[HTC Sensation] masondoctorjt:
Yes, but it would be 15 hours of very heavy usage, and a lot of browsing.

That gives me 2 hours to relax and eat , and 7 to sleep while my phone charges for another 15 hours of heavy use. And If it dies before that, I just pop in another battery... Problem solved. I too wonder what people expect out of a battery on a phone with a 4.3" screen and a dual core processor.

BTW, I also have all my settings to update everything (weather,email, etc.) As often as the settings will allow.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I will be delighted if I will get that, I get 12 hours on heavy use, sometimes 10 hours. That is just annoying.

Anyway two batteries should be here any minute, I am surprised that they did not arrived today. Well Christmas time I guess post must be busy stealing presents :D
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Anyway I fallowed your advice and wrote about the issue on hypersensation topic but as I said after 3 previous roms I doubt can it be reason if I had same battery drain on other roms and settings.
[HTC Sensation] Rhiannon224:
Listen, I don't know what you want to hear, I think you should flash your RUU and start over. Something is definitely not right, the screenshot proves it, Android System should not use that much battery. I have had great battery life, even with stock battery. With brightness set to auto I get close to 5 hours screen time and over an hour of calls on one charge, with the Anker I get even better. I easily make it over 12 hours on a charge. I have made it to 1 day and 9 hrs when I am on WiFi. Take people's advice, except that something is not right. If I were you I would flash the RUU and start fresh then report back.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Will do that....after getting anker. If I will reach 16h on anker I won't be bothered.
[HTC Sensation] bull2102:
i like it so much dump
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
My wife just text me that Anker battery arrived. Will test it tomorrow because I'm now at work. Will post results.
[HTC Sensation] Rickdaddy:
my opinion on the sensation

The sensation is without a doubt one of the best smart phones I've used and I thought it was great. Upon rooting it and running the arhd rom my respect for the phone went up a lot. My gripe though with the rom was that, just like the stock rom, it drains A LOT of battery, even with a custom kernel. This lead me to cm7/hypersensation, which blew my frickin' mind when I flashed it over. The phone is just so much better, no lag whatsoever (I'm at 1.3ghz instead of the recommended one), battery life was improved drastically, and I love the ability to have control over the phone/layout.

My ONLY gripe with the phone, which I am very ashamed of compared to my other friends with sg2 or iphone 3gs/4/4s is the volume. Sometimes I can barely hear any media coming from the phone when I'm out and about.

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Let me know how the battery is, I plan on getting one myself :)
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I'm going home in 10 minutes so will let you know probably tomorrow.
[HTC Sensation] kingston73:
Well I sure as he*l hope the title of this thread is 100% wrong because I just bought myself a sensation and will hopefully have it within the next week.
[HTC Sensation] BiziBB:
Me, too.

What's the checklist for faults for this phone, so I can DOA return it if not 100% working?

My plan is to get the white XE beats battery case, some larger capacity eBay batteries (hopefully ones recommended by locals / recommended sellers) and see how it runs.