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[HTC Rezound] voxigenboy:
it wiuld be cool to see that trick working also.... and if you think 13.2GB for a month is cool, wautvtill your doing more then that in a day.
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
It is cool and I get 20% off at my work and 50 off any phone vs so such luck for At&t. H+ when in full mode is very good, but it can't keep up when peck times come. It then takes a nice dip into the 1mbsDL/UL speeds.
[HTC Rezound] Grnlantern79:
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[HTC Rezound] Grnlantern79:
I can also confirm this does work, it took 2 calls and I asked her why is 4G different from 3g and her words were when you download something from 3g is only reads slighty ahead of say a movie, but when you download with 4G its done really fast. So if you were tethering to a tablet it would eat up your data really fast. So that is why 4G unlimited data is needed. Added it and said she now has unlimited and she just got an account 3 months ago and just got a Droid Razr so it took two calls acting very nice about it and declining it if you don't get unlimited. Just wanted to share my experience. Will wait 24 hours to remove hotspot from account. But others are stating they remove it right after. She said something about 90 days yadayada didn't want to ask to many questions to ruin it by asking a supervisor that would deny it. I will repost if necessary.
[HTC Rezound] brockeverly:
Incorrect. Your signed contract was for 2gb of data, not unlimited. You are using a work around in the system, that is on you not Verizon.
[HTC Rezound] dpiddy14:
Your are correct, I did sign a contact to have 4gb. But when I called to add the hot spot I authorized to them to change my plan. So now my plan is unlimited. Over the phone you have to give a social security number or an account password. That is the same as signing something in the store. It is verifying it is you and telling them it is ok to do the changes over then phone. So pretty much I resigned for the changes and that is my current contract with them.
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
Damn why are so many people butt hurt about this. It is just unlimited data people, no one is scamming anyone. Verizon or Att are not entirely saints either when it comes to data plans. I seriously doubt the few hundered of us will stress their systems. Heck if verizon gave me 4gb for 20 bucks I would take that any day because I only use about 3.5gb a month. I would rather have unmilited for 30 just for the piece of mind.
[HTC Rezound] Grnlantern79:
Yea I got it for my wife and she only uses around 3 gb but only cause I tell her to make sure she is on WiFi at home. So I know she could use more. But she has unlimited now.
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
Considering they don't offer the unlimited plan any more to new customers then yes, it is a scam to find a loophole to get it, regardless of whether it stresses their network or not. I'd rather have unlimited for $30 as well but it was not offered so I took 4gb for $30 and even that may drop to 2gb since it was a promotional double your data deal and I don't even know if it's permanent or not. 4gb is usually $50 and 2gb is what you get for $30. That's why people are trying this out. If it lasts forever, great. If not, oh well.
[HTC Rezound] Grnlantern79:
It is not a loop hole as long as you keep the hot spot, the lady who did mine explained it to me with great detail. She said we make it unlimited since if you are watching a movie on your laptop the whole movie will download in a minute or two and if you don't end up watching the movie you wasted all that data. 3g only reads slightly ahead so if you cancel the movie you will not waste as much data. She said if they are adding less data on your plan they did it wrong, they have to go out of the way to take off the unlimited. So this is how mine was added.
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
But the point of this entire thread is to get unlimited data by signing up for the unlimited hotspot and then dumping it immediately and keeping unlimited data. And the reason being is that they don't offer an unlimited data only plan any more to new lines. So it is absolutely a loophole. Actually I suppose it's not if they find it and cancel it. It's only really a loophole if they can't make an argument against it.
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
Are you mad that some of the new guys comeing in can have unlimited or you think your speeds will go down a bit. Why be a hater, why?
[HTC Rezound] dpiddy14:
It is amazing how many haters are out there. It is like they want to be in an exclusive unlimited plan club. With that being said, do you not think verizon's legal team has or will us loop holes to get what they want (either more money from you or in battles in court). A loop hole is not a scam. Its a loop hole!!! It is something legal within the system. We actually added unlimited to my wife's plan when talks of it being taken away came about. But when we went to get new phones, they told us that since she had a "dummy" phone with unlimited it was classified differently and it wasn't able to switch to the unlimited 4g plan. We fought and fought and got no where. Now she has it through a loop hole. I have no remorse nor do I feel like I "SCAMMED" verizon.
[HTC Rezound] DrSadistic:
I just got off the phone with a very nice vzw rep who activated me on the unlimited data. I have no hate for anyone who uses this method to get the unlimited data ball rolling, but allow me to offer my opinion. I was on the 50 dollar 5 gig plan which I got while vzw was offering the double data, which I'm sure they still are. After spending about 15 minutes on the phone with the rep I found out that I could spend an extra 10 buck and have unlimited data and unlimited mobile hotspot. Now I agree that it sucks for Verizon to implement the tiered data plans, but I don't think the extra 30 bucks will kill us in the end ( well 10 bucks for me). I love that I'm now able to offer 4g and 3g hotspots depending on where I am, and have unlimited data to play with. In the end, the price absolutely justifies the perks.

Granted if you don't need or want the hotspot service and Verizon doesn't make any changes to your account and you get to keep the unlimited data then heck ya, run it.
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
lmao... no, I'm new to Vzw and did the same thing, lol. I don't need to justify it by saying it's not outside the "rules" though. I just don't feel guilty doing it. Hell, when I was with AT&T they offered all kinds of stuff to the new people signing up for various services. Now I come to Vzw and they're giving the old customers a better deal.

I used the term scam replying to someone whose post sounded like they were going to leave in a huff if they couldn't get something that was never offered in the first place and had to be obtained using a trick. You're getting something for free that you would normally have to pay for, I consider that a scam.

Doesn't really matter though. It works or it doesn't. It lasts or it doesn't.
[HTC Rezound] phantomevo77:
Just called in, told the rep I wanted the unlimited 4G hotspot, she said no problem, and BAM! Unlimited data showing up, did not even take 5 minutes to complete.
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
That was me for one and 2 I would die on a low cap plan. I would not "leave in huff", but I don't like most of there phones and I like unlocked phones like my S2 alot better. Every one I have bumped in to likes it and EVEN the VZW rep at my work liked it.

P.S You are "scaming" just as much as I am about to when I can make it.
[HTC Rezound] dpiddy14:
I still don't see how your saying its "scamming". There is nothing fraudulent about what we are doing. They are providing a service that I am paying for. Am I taking advantage of of loop hole or glitch that anyone can do? Yes! I guess then as an example, people that extreme coupon are scamming super markets. They are taking advantage of a loop hole at the super market to use multiple coupons to get a product for free or next to nothing, legally. If the super market doesn't like it they change there policy to close that loop hole. Which in are case Verizon hasn't done yet. We aren't tricking the rep to gives up unlimited data. We are adding a feature,which in turn has to add unlimited data. Whether you decide you do not want this feature it totally up to you and can be dropped or added at any time. If you don't use it for a full billing month the remainder of the month will be prorated. Still don't see where the scam is here?:confused:
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
I dont know if its right or wrong... But it worked! :D

Thanks to the OP who posted this!

This also worked too! http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3633486

3 Extended batteries and a charger for $10.00 :D
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
didn't work for me. The lady appreantly didn't know why it wasn't working. I don't think she was aware that you needed unlimited data plan to activate that feature. I guess I will try again. Appreantly all reps don't know what they are doing. She offered me the 12gb plan for 20 more bucks.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
I for one don't see the big deal. If they are allowing you to do it, then that is their choice. Let's remember that xda members with a 4g device make up a small amount of verizon's total customer base (over 100mil).
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
No go. I guess they have caught up to it. I called three times and all the reps told me the only hot spot option I have is with the 6gb plan for the same price. So yea, I guess I am having a hard time finding a rep who doesn't know what they are doing. I have the 10gb plan for 50, I don't know if that makes a difference. They all clearly told me that the option can not be added for tiered data plans.
[HTC Rezound] donsh00tmesanta:
please still be around when the GN arrives...

ill give my NS to my brother lol
[HTC Rezound] Grnlantern79:
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[HTC Rezound] Grnlantern79:
I got my wife's last night and she did know what she was doing and explain why. Just try a few times and be very nice to the rep. Make sure to ask for 4G hot spot, its different than 3g hot spot.
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
I was talking about the guy who was calling every one a scamer, not that I think it is.
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
Yeah,the 5% of people that do that cause the rest of us to pay more for these phones.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[HTC Rezound] dpiddy14:
I'm trying to understand your logic behind this and I can't seem to figure it out. People already have grandfathered unlimited plans, and according to you 5% of the people are now getting unlimited through this loop hole. We are going to break Verizon's back and cause the cost of the phone to go up. Even though they are getting the same amount of money from most people. Or even more if these people are keep the hot spot. Through the plans is how Verizon makes money. Not through the hardware. This is why they offer a discount for sign up for a new plan. The phones are about double the price if you just want to buy the phone with signing a 2 year agreement. Amazon was giving phones away for a penny with a new line or new account (including the rezound and razr). Sorry just a little confused on your statement and where you got your statistical data from.
[HTC Rezound] dpiddy14:
My bad! :eek: Please direct that post towards the mad scammer!!!
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
I am going to get a RAZR from a guy I know soon and try this.

I know the rez is a good phone, but
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
I am talking about the people who damage their phones, drop &break screen, drop in toilet etc., and try to get another one free (without insurance) .VZW has to buy the phones they use to replace the phones the con artists send in. Who do you think they pass the costs on to.

Can you figure out the logic now????
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
We or I was talking about the guy who thinks the unlimited data thing is a "scam".
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
Marketing Ploy.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[HTC Rezound] dpiddy14:
jbh00jh your first quote since I didn't see it refering to a quote or anything I assumed you were talking about the unlimited data. Now that you explained yourself in a little more detail i understand. Yes I can figure that logic out. Yes it does make sense. Use a quote next time and we will not have this happen again.

4ktvs yeah that's what I have been trying to refer to. Hope this clears some things up.
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
Sweet! This worked for me!

I'm actually going to keep the hotspot, though, because I was about to order cable internet at home and now I don't need to! This is way faster, anyway!

Thanks guys!!
[HTC Rezound] LGeX:
Just transferred to Verizon today, called in soon as my phone was activated and got it added. :D I can justify leaving Sprint's unlimited plan now.
[HTC Rezound] DrSadistic:
+1 really, unlimited data and unlimited 3g/4g hotspot for $60 is great if you plan on replacing your internet. I did this at my home and I'm saving $30 a month.
[HTC Rezound] Geoi1006:
Update: Just got unlimited data and hotspot!! Keeping the hotspot for when we invest in a tablet or laptop. Maybe find a cheap wifi only Xoom or Galaxy Tab 10.1 now and I'm golden.
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
wow what are you guys actually saying to them. I have tried three times and they all told me I cant do it. Is there something special you guys are telling them. I have tried being nice and all that but it is not working for me, you all are making it sound too easy.

They all keep offering me the tiered data plan with hotspot feature and tell me that the unlimited hot spot feature cant be applied to my account. I currently have the 10gb plan.
[HTC Rezound] SamXp:
They may have put a note on your account that alerts any subsequent CSR from enabling the unlimited HotSpot, but it is still worth another try.

This was the conversation I had:

Me: "Hi, I'd like to add a hotspot to my phone"

CSR: "Sure, I can do that for you. How are you enjoying your new Rezound?"

Me: "Love it. The LTE network is awesome but I just got a Roku box and would like to be able to use the LTE network."

CSR: "Ok, it will be an additional charge of $30/mo and will change your plan to unlimited."

Me: "Good thing, because I'll need it!"

Pleasantries, and hung up. Took 2 minutes.

My plan was to ensure I did not argue with them if they said the unlimited wasn't available. That is what might trigger them to dig deeper. I was just going to say "oh, never mind, then. If it isn't unlimited, then I don't want it because I'll go through that allowance in no time on Netflix." and then try calling back again. If they claim they don't see an unlimited option, don't argue. Just say no thanks, hang up and call again later. Asking nicely won't matter if a) it isn't an option on their system, or b) they are standing firm.
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
I will be trying it soon and will post to see how the first shot go's.
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
Nope never argued, I said that exactly if it is not unlimited I don't wanna sign up for now and I will see if the unlimited option is available in the future. I said thanks for their help. I never argue with reps even if they are rude to me, I will just try to get off the phone. I don't know why they would put a note up, since I was like extra nice to each one of them. I think I called three times but only talked to two reps, the third time I had to hang up because my mom was yelling to me.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
All I did was call them and say can you add the $30.00 hostpot like instructed to in prior posts. They said that you need unlimited data but they dont offer it any more. I said that I was told by someone if you tried to add it then the system would just convert the data plan. Guy said, really? Lets try it. He did it, it worked ended, call.

15 Minutes later I logged into my Verizon, saw the words unlimited then proceeded to remove the hotspot. It allowed me to. I thought for sure it would drop me back to 4GIG's but it didnt. So I left it over night and its still unlimited. I added the host spot back on, I can do it via the website now, and nothing changed.

I also get a corp discount on the Unlimited data plan AND the hotspot but NOT on the 4Gig plan. LAME or what?

No arguing, was very nice about it and even offered to show me how the hot spot worked. Was going to do it for my Wife's line too but the phone is en route and not been activated yet. He said just call back when its activated and they would do the same thing.

No arguing and no lying. Just told them what I read.

Also... Just as a point of interest...

When I go to "My Verizon" it lists the Host Spot feature for $30.00. I dont think this is the mistake people are making it out to be. I think its somethying you just have to ask for. Kinda like the secret menu at McDonalds ;)
[HTC Rezound] dpiddy14:
nkd, my experience was pretty much exactly the same as SamXp. I called and they did it on the first time. Just keep trying. It has taken some people multiple times of calling but eventually you should get it.
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
LOL just called again and he offered me 2gb and 4gb 4g hotspot. He said there is no unlimited one available. Damn it. I will try someone else later.Appearently he quoted me the wrong price since I have a phone and it should have been a 6gb plan for 50 not 4gb, he said I can get 4gb hotspot for 50 bucks. so he really didn't know what he was doing.
[HTC Rezound] Cares:
My conversation was really simple and easy...

Me: Hello, I would like to add MHS to 2 of my lines. What options do I have available?

Her: Let me look, well since both of your phones are 4G, you can get a $30/month for unlimited MHS.

Me: Awesome, can I remove this at anytime should I not like the service?

Her: Yes you can do it online and you will be charged a pro-rated fee.

Me: Okay, go ahead and add it.

Her: One moment please.

(On hold for a few minutes)

Her: Okay sir, I had to get a supervisor to look at your account and we had to change your data plan from 4GB to unlimited for $29.99 in order to add MHS. Are you okay with this change?

Me: Yes I love getting more for less.

Done.
[HTC Rezound] Scott:
I dont know if this will help you leverage them any more but try it from a different approach...

Go to My Verizon. Look to see if you even have the MHS option available...

If so then you should be able to say, hey its on the website and it tells me to call you to get it activated. Can you check with a supervisor as to why it would say this?

Here is a screenshot from my own "My VZW"

Look to see if you have it under features. If you do then they should allow you to add it.
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
Finally it worked.

Me: Hi, I was trying to add the 30 dollar mobile hotspot feature.

Rep: Let me see....I see that the unlimited option is only available for customers with unlimited data you have this this, bla bla, plan available. Would you like to add that.

Me: No mam, thank you. But I was going to watch netflix on my tablet and online it said it was unlimited hotpot feature so I would run out of 6gb/hotspot for 50 in a heartbeat. To be honest my friend just told me that he was able to add it when the rep tried even though it said i needed unlimited data.

Rep: Ok, let me try and see if it works when I add it. 30 seconds later.. OK sir so that will be 60 dollars total on your bill with 30 for unlimited web and 30 for unlimited hotspot. Will you be ok with that.

Me: Yes I will, I really appreciate your help. Have a great holiday season. Thank you.

Bamn, someone else said that it works if the rep tries to add it even though it says I need unlimited data. Just let them know the truth, usually it works on Women reps as they seem to be more receptive to a customer. First three times it was all men reps.

REP: Before you leave, I am going to just let you know what I am going to backdate the plan to the first of this month so you will see a 50 dollar credit on your account and a 60 dollar charge for the hotspot and unlimited data. She was frickin super sweet, we Men are such dicks, LOL.

I think verizon cant fix this because someone with unlimited data is the only one who can add the feature and the feature itself requires unlimited data so it works both ways. It forces your plan to be unlimited data if the rep activates the hotspot under your account.

I dont think this is a scam it is a feature and up to the rep to add it or not. I think they could give you unlimited data too if they wanted but they probably have a strict guidelines that the tiered data plans cant go back to unlimited data.

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Yup did kinda mention it. I said it in a sad tone, that oh I thought the online feature said it I need to call to get it added, she is like let me try it anyways. I think not all reps will do it, but some will.
[HTC Rezound] itzsleepy:
I did this in one shot and I am new to Verizon. Less than 2 weeks. So I asked about my rebate if it would be affecting the 100 dollar rebate from Amazon and the rep said she doesn't know but they have an instant rebate of 10 off for the next 2 months for new customers. I know its not much but 10 off my bill for the next two months is better than nothing off.
[HTC Rezound] nbaj2k:
I know this is a stupid question, but once you activate the Hotspot to get Unlimited data, has anyone then deactivated the Hotspot and been able to keep the unlimited data?

I'm currently on Sprint now, HEAVILY considering switching to Verizon, but like a lot of others, really didn't want to lose my unlimited data since I do use a lot at times.

~J
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
People have done it. It was mentioned by a alot of people a few pages back.
[HTC Rezound] nbaj2k:
My apologies, went through a bunch of the thread pages and didn't see that until after I posted. I'm going to hold out and try to switch to Verizon and get the Nexus. Hopefully I'll get lucky and be able to pull this off as well, although I have a feeling all these accounts will be audited and lose it. Hopefully not, and if so, if it's before Jan 15th I can switch to one of the double the data plN
[HTC Rezound] dpiddy14:
As of now, there is no reports that I have heard of anyone losing their unlimited. I did though on another forum see that someone straight out ask the rep if they were to remove unlimited hotspot on a later date would then then lose the data. The rep said no.
[HTC Rezound] nkd:
I highly doubt it. I think verizon is more likely to close the loophole than take it away from people without telling them, they most likey will ignore the people that have gotten it, because they didn't hack in to the sytem, they were given the data plan by reps adding it for them. We didn't do anything wrong or take advantage of anything. We asked for a hotspot and when they added it we got unlimited data. I expect them to close the loophole instead of axing the unlimited data without telling them. otherwise they will have to give people the option to opt out. I however plan to keep the hotspot feature.

This thread is only 14 pages long so I doubt a million people signed up for it.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
tried twice tonight and got shot down.

1. Called and asked about adding the hotspot option to my new line. Told him I wanted unlimited data if possible, was told it was not, only the tiered options. Got called away and hung up.

2. Called again and talked to a very helpful lady. She told me the same story about it would have to be tiered. I mentioned that other newer customers have been able to get unlimited hotspot and it just required switching to unlimited data. She talked to her supervisor about it and came back and said that she couldn't do it. She did say that some reps might be figuring out a way, but she said that all acct changes are audited and those that shouldn't be on unlimited data would be caught and switched back.

Going to try one more time in the morning.