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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Raptor1956:
This burn in issue is very troubling to me and may force me to reevaluate my intention of getting the Note. I just Googled AMOLED and the Wikipedia article seems to imply the organic material degrades over time and I'm thinking this is the cause of the so called burn in issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED

The other thing it mentions is the dramatic difference in power the display uses depending on the colors being displayed with black letter on a white background eating more than 4X the power of white letters on a black background.

This bothers me not just because I was planning to get the Note but I was also looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. If a phone has problems with burn in problems in as little as half a year how long before a tab with an AMOLED/SAMOLED display has the burn in issue.

On the upside, knowing that switching the colors can greatly reduce battery drain is good to know...

Brian
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] PoisonWolf:
Yup, this is why I still prefer standard LCD currently, or Super LCD. Sure, the blacks aren't blacks, but at least the tech is tried and true. =)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] straxusii:
Hardly a fix but I use Opera for web browsing so the status bar is hidden for me (and full screen browsing is lovely :D)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Spartan2x:
It's something you "Tech guys" seam to leave out when you do your iPhone vs Android discussions, I have never read up about it anywhere. You would think such a glaring problem with be talked about more. I'll have to look into it more now that I am waiting on the White Note from hantec.(coming from the iPhone 4 that I have had for 18 months now with no issues other then the inferiority complex in screen size)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] RomBox:
if we can change the location of the status bar it can solve this issue, same as the windows task bar
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] PoisonWolf:
Just use things like Launcher Pro to hide the notification bar and avoid using single-colored wallpapers (in both the lock screen and home area). And switch wallpapers every week or so? And lastly, make sure the phone's brightness isn't the utter most maximum. THe dimmer you can keep it, the longer these AMOLEDs will last with respect to being resistant towards burn ins and specific color dimmings.

This would be the extreme if you really wanted to wear out the LEDs evenly over time. I personally find it a little frustrating that you need to do this for anyone serious about keeping the phone for 3 years or more, etc. I was honestly so surprised to hear and see for myself that an international Galaxy S2 got a lockscreen burn in WITHIN 2 months of purchasing the phone. Im guessing the user's high brightness and long screen time-out might have something to do with it in this scenario.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DaveC1964:
Maybe that is because iOS and Android have nothing to do with screen types. Android is an OS, OLED is a screen type and have nothing to do with each other. There are Android phones with LCDs too.

As far as burn-in it seems red and green has the longest life. So long in fact (like hundreds of thousands of hours) that if all of the fonts on the status bar were red, green, or a combination of those (yellow) burn-in would not be an issue.

But it seems the knuckleheads at the phone makers just LOVE their blue, the worst color for an OLED. They over use that color (my battery indicator is BLUE!, stock FW) for some reason. It is idiotic not only because it will burn in to your expensive screen, but it is just as easy to use another color, and after all green for full battery and red for low battery make more logical sense anyway!

So if there was a simple change of font color to avoid blue or colors that use it (white, purple etc) for status screens, scores for games, static images etc the problem would almost go away. But stupid people will be stupid and just not think things out (or simply not give a $#!+) and put static images in the brightest image burning blue that they could possibly pick like blue #255 into status bars.

I asked if there was a custom theme awhile back that was "OLED friendly" and the answer was no. That is all you would need really, you wouldn't even have to hide the bar, just make the colors without blue in them. If you could just edit the icon art and font color, you wouldn't even need to code anything! Pretty simple actually.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] justj:
Yes, Burn-in in amloed is easy and real. That's a well known fact.

This is what happened after 3 weeks use of note. Likely,it is not mine.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] aodxxl:
So i honestly dont know what you people do with your phones . I own a 1 and half year galaxy S and it hasnt yet show any burn in issues . It has absolutely no dimmed pixels or weird colours .

I use it for internet , voice calls , IM . and mass storage device .

The screen is always at minimum brightness with rare ocasion when its extreemly bright outside i crank it to 100%.

I lock the screen after almost every action .

I have the same lock screen wallpaper for the past 3 months wich is my gf in a red xmass suit and a black screen for my app drawer/desktop.

The only problem i noticed so far with my phone is that sometimes when i get a call my screen doesnt turn on but i can use the touchpanel on it . If i press the lock key twice the screen turns on and everything is fine .

I have inspected the notification area with a magnifing glass and by eye, on several backgrounds and i can confirm there is absolutely no sign of burn in.

My LCD monitor on the other hand is experiencing some colour distortion and weird shapes because i forgot the screen open at 80% brightness for about 2 days with a static web poage loaded. :(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] THFourteen:
can i have a copy of your wallpaper :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] aodxxl:
NO ! : you may not :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tomah:
aaaaah maaan. This thread really made me reconsider, i was gonna buy the note over the one x, but now i'm not sure anymore.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Spartoi:
One X has a much better screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] marmotash:
Los cojones!!!!

I think Note with sharpness mods is better

#aravasyloscascas

#nowgoandtellit

Enviado desde mi GT-N7000 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] beestee:
Wow, I must have missed this post. I have been using an app called 'StatusBar+' since I got my note, which allows me to hide all stats and reveal them with a nifty drop-down animation when I tap on the blank black bar. It has had it's issues, but it seems to run pretty well on my note now. It is a simple graphic overlay, so that you can still pull down the notifications screen.

I had goLauncher set up on my note at one time with a completely blank (black, using the 'colors' app) home screen and I could use gestures to unhide the notification bar and app tray...I was getting some great battery life back then!

Somebody needs to make a notifications bar app that is animated like a ticker tape.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] holgalee:
My S2 had a loading icon burn in within less than three months. The phone was usually in low brightness, and for apps that allow, black background with with text. My S1 had burn in of the notification bar. In both cases, the burn ins were not very noticeable, and could be seen only with the phone held at various angles our with certain coloured backgrounds. I was able to sell them at good prices.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Spartoi:
I disagree but w/e.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] vansmuk:
This might as well have been an April's fool thread. Made me laugh, quite hard. thanx for that. now to the point.

There is NO burn-in issue on AMOLED screens when u use your phones like a normal person would. (Leave it on and static for several hours and it WILL burn-in, but u either have to be an idiot, or u have a firmware bug)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] azrael_hut:
Or, you could have the need to use your phone as a car navigator...

And this means that every nav app with no auto-hide features for status bars will hopelessly damage your OLED display.

I used to be a heavy user of Waze (which someone mentioned in this thread) prior to buying my S2...

I actually had to be an idiot, but to buy an OLED phone... :)

A.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] suomaf:
What we need is flying toasters app, and we can rock it like we are in the 1990s. Seriously though, I just take the precautions that I have no status bar when I am in my home screen, and I don't leave the display on any fixed apps for too long. Learnt this the hard way from my galaxy s, and me nexus s
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] emze:
my friend's galaxy nexus, hardly 2 months old has burn in issue in 3 places. and both GN and note use pentile displays
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] gurnishdhillon:
statusbar+ is great

Yea i agree ,me too have been using statusbar+ from day one as well,especially since i hate looking at that status bar when i don't need to ....with statusbar+ i only show the time and everything else remain hidden,,, since it is still in beta stage i hope when the actually realease it then provide with an option to make the bar transparent,,now that be awesome!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] azrael_hut:
I am using ADW Launcher, by means of which I have:

- Removed the dock bar at the bottom

- Hidden the top status bar

I have then created a blank home page and a real one, containing my shortcuts to favorite apps (including the ones removed from the dock bar). I keep the phone on the blank home page and revert to the real one only if needed.

Having this said, I don't believe it is normal to find myself in need of taking care about such details and remembering of flying toasters :)

Not especially after having tossed away some good bucks for this jewel.:)

I could (albeit hardly) accept that plasma TVs are prone to burn-in issues, for mainly two reasons:

- They are not cutting edge technology

- The normal use of a tv display would not encompass showing static images

Here, we are talking about a technology which has been marketed as 'the next big thing', and about the fact that static menus-bars-icons are perfectly normal in a cell phone.

To me, it sounds like it had come up that car tyres could tear if used on highways while running over 55mph. And like now we were here exchanging tips about how driving slower than my aunt could save them.

This is outrageous.

S.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] beestee:
I have done something similar with go launcher before, and then used gestures to reveal the dock and notifications bar...but go was a little laggy.

Has anyone run across a good gesture based launcher?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] inurb:
I think the next concern with amoled is the ICS virtual buttons. They will definitely cause burn out at the bottom of the screen. That's why I'm a fan of keeping one physical home button.

If the next note has no physical home button I won't be picking one up.

I hope samsung doesn't nix the home button on the GSIII.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] necrocavus:
Today I used my phone on landscape mode. I noticed that there is bluish bright color where status bar usually is.

It is visible at white, grey, and blue backgrounds. I start using custom launcher now to hide status bar.

I tried APEX to hide, but bar comes back every time I use an application. So it hides only on desktop. How to hide always? I want to be on full screen always.

Do you know how can I fix like stuck pixel solving applications?

Any suggestion to hide status bar always?

I don't want to return back the phone because:

1. I have to unroot and change CF-Root kernel.

2. I have to go back to GB.

Then, I can go to where I bought this. And I will need to wait maybe 1 month to get replacement or fix.

If I cannot fix this by myself, I will go to shop just before warranty ends which means 1.5 years later. It is not visible on photo/games/other colored backgrounds.

If no fix, I just want to hide status bar even if any application is open.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sikodemon:
Ok, so google said you can't remove the staus bar permanently as it's an "integral" part of the android os user experience.

Well in that case, why not just make an application similar to "statusbar+" which changes the status bar background transparent so the wallpaper shows behind (or for simplicity just make it black), and then just make all the symbols and clock, battery bar etc scrolling, so that they all slowly scroll across the status bar.

You could make it so it's a different colour for every day of the week, or just keep it white.

This sort of thing would be soooooo easy to write as an android application. Just need the right person to do it.

oh well.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] CONTACTMC:
I have burn in on mine but its only visble on screen test app with total blue screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] inurb:
Don't use apps that don't allow to hide the status bar. Email the developers and let them know. That's what I do. Also use the web version of the app. ICS Stock browser lets you browse in full screen. Option is in Labs settings.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Akiainavas:
Don't worry about burn-in issue.

It won't happen if you're using your phone normally, and not like a desktop primary display.

I'm quite sure that displays that have burn-in issues after 3-5 weeks are simply defective and should be covered by warranty.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LoVeRice:
Or a mod were you can set status bar transparent? (I remember transparency stuff is a standard in desire hd custom rom)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] inurb:
It will happen especially if you use the phone normally. Normal users don't even think to hide the status bar on the home screen. They keep the touchwiz launcher which never hides the status bar. That wil give you burn in after a few months use.

Amoled wears out, it's a flaw of the technology.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tbong777:
Much ado about nothing. Who keeps their phone long enough to worry about "screen burn in"? :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] antique_sonic:
Screen burn due to status bar ?

Hmmm... This is the first time hear about this.

If you are saying phone burn due to overheat AMOLED screen (because of long term usage in a time), that's make sense.

But status bar ? I don't think so.

AMOLED screen is using a huge power of battery supply / resources supply. So, if you use for quite long hours (non-stop ON condition), with 100% brightness, yes, the phone will get heat, and screen will burn (might possible).

But I don't see any relationship between Android status bar and screen burn.

If got anyone want to hide status bar due to any reason of usage, then it's fine... But,cmon.... burn ? I really really think it is not possible.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Mazzstrikers:
This is why I choose the SLCD 2 (essentially IPS tech but renamed due to trademark) on the One X vs the Pentile AMOLED on the S3. S3 already has less natural colour, not to mention in the long run as the burn in gets worse colours degrade even more and vertical/ horizontal banding appear even more frequently.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tbong777:
Sometimes I think there is nowhere OCD is more prevalent then with mobile device users.

They are the first in line to get every new phone which they keep less than a couple years and in many case months and spend hundreds on collections cases , "screen protectors" lose sleep over scratches that have to actually sought out to find and do not affect the device in use at all and now screen burn in which again has zero effect except under "test" circumstances, There there are the "slight" variations in color as if the devices is supposed ot disply scientifically perfect hues for $600 and get one home , and have the best fidelity, and play all games perfectly, and not brick when screwed around with, and take notes, on and on all for $600 perfection!

Some say because they want a good price used. Well guess what? The price between a used imperfect device and perfect devices is less than the cost of all the "protection" which in many cases makes a device impossibly bulky or subtracts from the actual stock feel of a smooth screen. PLUS Those of us who buy used phones are not OCD (or we would buy new) and would rather save $50 on a device with normal wear and tear that cannot be seen without great effort while being used, than pay a premium for a pristine phone By nature those buying a used phone we are not inclined to worry about these devices.

When I sell a phone if someone asks about minutia I tel them to find another device. they will never he happy with any device I sell if they are expecting a "new" phone. I don't need the aggravation. Its a used phone, it works.

Can't anyone just USE their devices and enjoy them instead of stressing over things that are not noticed when the phone is actually in use?

Humorous thread though....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] inurb:
I'll post some photos of an amoled screen with burnout where the status bar is. Maybe that will shut up the people who say this issue doesn't exist.

Here you go...

http://fattylewis.com/2011/01/galaxy-s-amoled-burn-in/

and here...

http://resim.donanimhaber.com/upfiles/447273/87384687677A4C1FA30153080DCFF787.jpg

more here...

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gdbTuMamqSA/mqdefault.jpg

So amoled burn out does occur and as quickly as a few months use.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Trilyan:
I totally agree. I own a N7000 that is a year old now and with bright blue images the notification bar BURN IN is clearly visible. Too bad i never realized that could happen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Quimerinha:
I have a Note for 3~4 months and since i flashed XXLSZ(The day it come out) i locked the rotation of the screen, and when i disabled that i noticied that the place where the notification bar stays was kinda blue, marked by the notification bar...

After some hours in landscape mode and with rotation always on my Note screen just got back to normal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brian85:
Where to buy?

Considering I have an unlocked nexus using it in the USA, what place will insure it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
I am currently trying to decide between http://www.worthavegroup.com and http://www.ensquared.com

Worth Ave Group:

-Backed by Hanover insurance (a company I'm familiar with).

-Deductibles are $50.

-Instead of replacing the phone they just give you a check

-THEY DO NOT COVER LOSS

Ensquared:

-Deductible for the first claim is $75

-They replace your phone with the same modem if available

-They cover loss

I'm still deciding which one to go with. My concern is that perhaps ensquared may not replace my phone with another galaxy nexus in the event something happens. Also, I do like the idea of receiving a check for the value of the phone with Worth Ave Group, however I'm concerned they may try to account for depreciation and give me less than the replacement cost of the phone. Also, they don't cover loss. I'm leaning in the direction of ensquared mainly because they cover loss.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mstyle88:
This is the one thing keeping me from buying a 'grey market' Nexus. While those dealers say they'll take care of you, in 6 months they might not be as willing. From my research online, Squaretrade wont cover grey market but they do cover eBay phone purchases. I pulled up an eBay listing of a new GN and added a Squaretrade warranty on top of it and they charge $99.

Still, that brings the phone purchase to $850. Too rich for my blood, but for others that may be worthwhile. I personally am going to hold off for a few weeks to a month to see if there is any news about an unlocked GSM version being sold in the US.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
Well I spoke with ensquared and they stated that they'd cover my phone as long as I could show proof of ownership when/if I make a claim. They also said they'd order the same phone as long as it's still being sold. I went ahead and bought insurance with them, it cost me roughly $60.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brian85:
They cover it even though it's not a phone officially sold in the USA?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BinaryTB:
Since Negri/Expansys/others will handle warranty claims for me, I'm not as worried about it as I am about water damage, dropping the phone, etc. And since SquareTrade won't cover phones that don't have a US manufacturer's warranty, are Worth Ave and Ensquared the only two that will? Haven't heard of either, any recommendations?
[HD2 General] Heeshung:
I understand that MAGLDR's USB Mass Storage isn't most people's first choice, and that it can be flaky at times, but I've used it without problems in the past.

However, the last time I used it, installing drivers took an abnormally long time, and I just canceled USB Mass Storage and went back to the menu. However after that, the SD Card is complete unrecognized in the phone, and when using an adapter plugged in to the computer directly, it tells me the SD Card cannot start.

It looks like the controller on the card is damaged. I was just wondering if anyone else has heard of this occurrence. I honestly think it's more likely that the controller breaking was the cause, not the effect. Perhaps that's why it was taking so long to install drivers?
[HD2 General] johnerz:
damaged/faulty SD Card readers do happen, have you tries to delete the partitions and reformating the SD Card.

I have lost 2 cards with my HD2 and am currently on the 3rd, I have no explanation but thats the wat it is :(
[HD2 General] four_eyes:
ok i have faced this issue like just last night only. was trying to copy an adroid sd version to my sd card ( completely working ) it was taking like for ever, i canceled the transfer and voila there goes my SD card corrupted, CWR cannot format it, Windows shows me Format device when i connect it via mass storage and it just won't format

guess it's time to get a new SD card not much can be done after that :'(
[HD2 General] Akshay Darade:
Format your sd card using Panasonic sdformatter 3.0.

Goodluck!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
Didn't see where this had been done yet, so I figured I'd do it.

Got these data speeds when I ran the speed test. I am in Atlanta btw.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blkbltwrestler:
What network are you on?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
I'm on T-Mobile
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
TMo NYC (queens)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
I switched servers and did a little better
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
I see your ping improved dramatically after switching servers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] whatzup282:
Running on simple mobile. Norcal
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AfroCreame:
This is using ATT
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rbs_uk:
Do I need to download this app or just navigate to their web page?

What does H symbol next to reception bars mean?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mysterioustko:
Yes you would need to download the app. Also, the "H" symbol is indicative of a HSDPA connection.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
The weird thing is that my connection speed seems to dynamically change as well. It's always sitting on 3G during the ping and when the actual transfer test starts it switches to H (assuming that is hsdpa+). Is there a way to force it to stay on hspa+? I'm guessing that maybe its affecting the test.

Ahh whatever I don't care I'm in wifi most of the time, and when I am not hspa+ seems quick during usage. :) Definitely a step above the nexus s all around.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sluflyer06:
I'm on AT&T in Saint Louis.

Default Cingular 410 APN: 7Mb average

AT&T US HSDPA APN: 9.3Mb average 1.6up

Both using the speedtest app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] milan03:
New York City, T-Mobile, USA:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] catpunt:
8.0/1.7 90ms ping outside san francisco
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sluflyer06:
Update: Testing outside of work where I'm very deep within a large building I am consistently hitting 11Mb now.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] sport_billy:
Ideos U8800 Gingerbread Beta 1 U8800V100R001C00B517G001(Beta1.0)(Overseas Normal)(Gingerbread)

Contains original:

recovery.img

boot.img

cust.img

amss.mbn

EMMCBOOT.MBN
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] dancer_69:
Thanks man.