yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Rezound] tgeigel:
I've had the mhs for half a cycle. Going to keep it to see how much my actual bill will be once its fixed.
[HTC Rezound] spencer88:
See, the option was there before I called up CS. I just asked the rep about that feature and she told me that it would change my data to 29.99 for unlimited plus the cost of the add on which is 24 dollars right now on sale.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1370720&page=38
[HTC Rezound] tgeigel:
Can't see the thread for some reason. Its not loading. Shows up empty :(
[HTC Rezound] jonathan413:
Verizon finds loophole and audits accounts

sorry guys but looks like verizon has found out about the loophole and is going around auditing accounts..here's proof..

http://consumerist.com/2012/01/veri...ophole-returns-account-to-tiered-pricing.html
[HTC Rezound] nlitend1:
I posted this earlier...but i think it got buried in the thread...For those having trouble with that error msg on the final step...Try a different browser or clearing your browser history and see if that makes a difference. It did for me. Hope this helps! Good Luck!
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Posted already
[HTC Rezound] Cheetohz:
Despite many failed attempts over the past few weeks. I decided to call one last time. I called up and said there was an issue. My buddy just got a new phone and was able to add 4g hotspots with unlimited data last week. I've called a few times and you guys have offered me many different numbers, from my original 4gb to 6gb all which have been $30. He is able to get unlimited. She looked it up and said I was only able to get 4gb with my plan and unfortunately wasn't able to look up my friends account due to security reasons. I asked her if there is any info he may be able to get from Verizon to assist me, she suggested we both call in together so they could review both accounts.

I finished the call and tried back about 15 min later, spoke to a man and summed up my previous call and told him I was able to get a plan code for him to make it easier. He thanked me and entered it in. I now have unlimited hotspot. This is still working as of 5 min ago.
[HTC Rezound] jonathan413:
gee whiz how did i miss that? im on here everyday lmao thanks though
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
On sale? How long does that price last? I'm paying for it and haven't canceled but it's not working well. Finally called to complain about that and the 4g outages and the rep credited my account for 5 days but we weren't able to troubleshoot mhs since I didn't have another phone hooked up to use. Wondering if I can get them to drop my price on mhs.
[HTC Rezound] PeartFan40:
<~~~~knows where he got it from.
[HTC Rezound] LLuisLA:
Has anyone received the "call" to audit your account ?
[HTC Rezound] sway40:
Have you??? I call bs on their "audit".

~Sent from my Galaxy Nexus on Cm9~
[HTC Rezound] bobbysteels216:
Agreed. So far only two people supposedly got their accounts audited. A VZW rep on Howard Forums said that it's gonna stay like that for quite some time. Either those two accounts were BS or the maintainers of the accounts did something like try to migrate their accounts to dumb phones which would be an error on their part due to either ignorance or stupidity.
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
I may get "the call", becuase I used 25GB so far and I went in to the store to see if it was only my phone and It looked like they had just fixed 4G as The Phones in store were just reconneting when i got there. They asked for my phone # to help me and asked me to go inline, but then it worked so I went home.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I agree 100%.

We have a corporate VZ account and our rep is one of the coolest chics I have ever met. I switched my Wifes Droid Charge from the 4gig double data to UL with this loophole. I really don't care if it gets switched back as my Wife has never even used two gigs, I just wanted the UL for piece of mind.

I asked our rep about this audit nonsense and she said she highly doubted VZ would even bother. She said VZ has 100 million customers, other than closing a loophole she really couldn't imagine them auditing all these accounts to catch a handful of people who are getting a small amount of free data.

~John
[HTC Rezound] antawnm26:
-100000000000000000000000000000000000
[HTC Rezound] Cheetohz:
I was able to get unlimited after this loophole was supposedly closed. Have not received an audit either.
[HTC Rezound] sway40:
Nobody said the loophole has been closed, the secret is just out.

~Sent from my Galaxy Nexus on Cm9~
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
Yes, people have said that but they may not have been correct. Seems people are still getting in and I haven't read a post yet that said someone got reverted since the stories about Verizon knowing were posted.
[HTC Rezound] sway40:
Ok if verizon themselves didn't say it was closed then to me the "nobody" stands. Just bc random people say it's closed doesn't mean they no for sure just bc they can't get in on the loophole. I can't get it on it I've tried time after time I still think it's going on.

~Sent from my Galaxy Nexus on Cm9~
[HTC Rezound] SallyC:
I don't think calling it a loophole or hack is accurate. If you call and ask for a feature, answer any questions put to you honestly and the CSR knows this is making your data unlimited, where's the loophole or hack?

Verizon should have something in place that reverts your data if you remove the hotspot but that is still not your fault.

Plus many kept the hotspot and don't want to change the plan the CSR and they agreed to, again in a non-fraudulent agreement.

I'm curious what protection they have in their contract or by precedent?
[HTC Rezound] spencer88:
I still have my unlimited data...granted I haven't used an enormous amount of data either. I just wanted it for the peace of mind.
[HTC Rezound] WasabiWa83:
Well said. The fact that if you take the hotspot off doesn't change your data back to tiered is their fault, not ours. I really think the entire thing is shady. As others have said, you are paying for the data and then paying extra to use it in another way. They should just bring back the unlimited plan anyway, imo. Charge a little more, but at least have the option for people. This tiered thing is garbage.
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
What I stated before, this is all a strategy to make money while they have the opportunity. Once all the other carriers are running a good reliable LTE network the only way they will be able to compete again is to go back to an unlimited package. Verizon knows this, and AT&T let it happen by changing their 3G plans, basically shooting themselves in the foot competition wise. I firmly believe if AT&T hadn't done that, Verizon would have never gone to tiered. They may have just raised unlimited prices for new customers. Look at the history of all the providers, first you pay out the ass for minutes, then you pay for long distance, then you pay for texts, now you pay for data. The carriers also know eventually VoIP is going to be king, no one will need to pay for "minutes" anymore. This is why they are building VoLTE.
[HTC Rezound] Cheetohz:
True, I was wanting to switch back in September. Only thing stopping me was tiered data.
[HTC Rezound] Cheetohz:
No, it is not accurate, but not wrong to call it that either.

To me a loophole is jumping through hoops to do something that someone says is otherwise impossible. Call up Verizon and ask for unlimited data, they will tell you no.we can't add that and we dont have the option to in our system. By jumping through the right hoops we can do what verizon says we can't.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
still have unlimited and the hotspot, and I just looked and could cancel my hotspot online, just not ready to yet. Want to add the hotspot to my rezound, but it still seems to be buggy and none of the wireless tethers work real well yet either.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I hope you don't get "the call", but it seems more likely to me that someone who uses this much data will get clamped down on as opposed to my Wife who used less than one gig last month even though her data is unlimited for now.......

~John
[HTC Rezound] spencer88:
Almost a month...still unlimited data!
[HTC Rezound] pestilencec11:
WOOT.. I JUST got it.. just said I tried to add hotspot from online and said to call.. I called and lady said to hold on.. then she said you want add the 4g 30 dollar hotspot and I said yes.. she said is there anything else I can help you with and I said no.. Have a nice day.. 219 megs out of UNLIMITED used :D
[HTC Rezound] sway40:
I hate you, no jk

~ from my Galaxy Nexus running Cm9~
[HTC Rezound] Cheetohz:
Mine has a data monitoring widget. She uses less than 100mb in a month. I told her she has unlimited now, she has used 300mb today from Pandora YouTube and Facebook... dear god what have I created?
[HTC Rezound] bobbysteels216:
Haha.
[HTC Rezound] Mr. Salt:
I called today, didn't get the unlimited but did get some info. The rep. explained that there was an unlimited 4G hotspot plan but it was for people that already had unlimited from before it was discontinued. Seems like you might have to get a rep that isn't paying attention when you call it in.
[HTC Rezound] crazysoccerman:
Same here. I talked to a guy who told me that exact same thing. I told him I saw the feature online, but he said it was for people already grandfathered in.

All that is available for those already on tiered plans is the 6gb hotspot plan for the same as the old unlimited hotspot.

**** me :rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 06:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 PM ----------

Make sure you look online to make sure your data is unlimited. They replaced the $30 unlimited4g hotspot with the $30 6gb hotspot. I thought the same thing, but when I went online I saw a max of 6gb's.

The only way you can be sure you received the unlimited 4g hotspot is to mention the code #76153. You HAVE to make sure they applied this code to your account!
[HTC Rezound] qitupx:
SUCCESS! I bought a galaxy nexus S yesterday. I called in today to try and get the unlimited data. I had no issues at all and it took like 30 seconds. It went like this:

Him: Hello, Sir

Me: Hello, how are you.

Him: Quite good, what can I do for you?

Me: Hello, I was trying to add this unlimited hotspot feature I saw online under my features and it told me to call in so that is what I'm doing. I have a plan code (gave plan code referenced in OP)

Him: It has been added, enjoy your unlimited data.

Me: Excellent, checked online, it still says I have 6gb, but under the mobile app it says I have unlimited and all my transactions are tagged as unlimited use so it probably just needs to update the server cache.
[HTC Rezound] rabboys:
rabboys

It worked great after the third time. The first time I was told after a long discusion about where I live and where she lived and the weather that she would like to give me plan # 76153 but it has been retired. She didn't want to get in trouble. She said that I can call back and maybe someone else will give me the plan. I tried the second time and with no success. The first and second time was last night late. This morning at 7am I tried for the third time and once again talked about the weather where she was and where I was and so one and withing 4 minutes mostly talking about anything but the plan she activated without question plan #76153.

I do have a problem though when I went online to cancel the hot spot before finishing I was asked to confirm my requested changes. The changes that was shown would eliminte the ulimited hot spot and reinact the 4g plan that I was on before the call. Therefore I cancelled my requested change and still have unlimited with hot spot for $30.00.

Did this happen to anyone else?

Is there anything I can so to eliminate the $30.00 charge?

Do I have to what for a certain period of time like after the first billing cycle?
[HTC Rezound] tgeigel:
That's odd but I would wait for a full Billing cycle and then try to remove it again. Hopefully that should work.
[HTC Rezound] rabboys:
I just removed the hot spot from my account and as of now I still have unlimited data. The first time a few days ago I did it on my phone and wasn't allowed as I stated above but today I did it on my home computer just like the instructions and it worked. ya now lets hope it never leaves. I spoke with a verizon rep and he said that it was there mistake and they wouldn't remove it. I hope he's right.
[HTC Rezound] bnguyen1983:
2 more weeks on this month's cycle and Ive used 55gb. Lmao
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
People like you are the reason why we have tiered plans in the first place. Good job.
[HTC Rezound] spencer88:
You're an idiot. I hope they backcharge you for every megabyte you used.
[HTC Rezound] jmorton10:
I don't generally agree with posters slamming other users, but in this case I agree 100%.

It's idiots like this that ruined it for the rest of us.

~John
[HTC Rezound] dccoh:
Whats your phone number? I mean I swear I don't want to report you to Verizon. I just love #'s.
[HTC Rezound] sway40:
Wtf do you sleep with Pandora, Netflix, and hulu on at one time??? I mean it is unlimited but cmon there's a line that needs to be drawn, that's a lot just for data which doesn't include mms or texting.

Sent from my Dell Streak 7
[HTC Rezound] dccoh:
I'd love to see a copy of that bill :)
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
Who are you talking to exactly?
[HTC Rezound] sway40:
Haha it's not a scam smart guy, its barely a loophole, go take a chill pill or get laid.

~ Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Cm9~
[HTC Rezound] feralicious:
Uh-oh...
[HTC Rezound] Evo4gLI:
I just want to know who he's talking to....Everyone who has even exploited this "loophole" is still paying for data. It's not like we're not paying anything....
[HTC Rezound] bnguyen1983:
I replaced my home internet by tethering.

By the way, I never got rid of my hotspot so screw all of you righteous critics. $30 a month for hotspot at 20mbit is cheaper than the $50 that I was paying Time Warner for 10mbit.
[HTC Rezound] dragonrazorz:
Shoot, i dont have any home internet unless u want dial up...so i use my phone for everything and use around 25gb every month....but i was grandfathered into unlimited, soooo
[HTC Rezound] dccoh:
Thought this might be appropriate.
[HTC Rezound] spencer88:
You missed one thing though. Verizon isn't an ISP, time warner is.

So you're still an idiot.
[HTC Rezound] chakra:
For me at least I feel like if you keep the extra plan and don't remove it, then you have every right to use 50 or even 100 gigs a month. You have an unlimited tethering plan, I mean what do they think your going to do with it? But if you cancelled it then 55 gigs is a bit abusive, because you are tethering.
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
How is anyone scamming? They call and ask for the service, and verizon adds it.

But I agree, 55gb on a wireless connection is excessive and the reason they went to tiered plans. I would expect in the next 12 months for them to start restricting the top 5% on 4g as well as 3g since they have come out and said they will not be offering anything but lte smartphones going forward.

As for the 55gb guy using it as his home internet. I would take a consistent 10 down/ 2 up over lte at this point. It's just been to buggy lately.

And that is basic time warner, I get 30 down/ 5 up and only pay 30 a month (after some discounts).
[HTC Rezound] chakra:
But it's not excessive on a tethering plan. That's what it is for, I don't think they would throttle the 4g hotspot people.
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
For ****s and giggles I went on Comcast and checked my bandwidth usage. My billing cycle ended yesterday and I had used 98GB. It states that I have an allowance of 250GB/mo. I would *assume* Verizon at some point would have a service cutoff too. I may be wrong because it is "unlimited".

This is: My super computer of a desktop, 3 Xbox 360's, 1 PS3, 2 Mac's, 2 laptops, 2 TV's, 5-7 smartphones, an iPad, and a Transformer Prime at any given time pulling from my router.
[HTC Rezound] sway40:
I can understand this, I thought this was just with phone use. If you're using this as strictly your internet then I can see why there's so much usage. I can easily pass 50 gb in my home dsl in a week or so.

~ Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Cm9~
[HTC Rezound] chakra:
Ok ok you win, that does sound excessive. My data usage is not that high, although my tv has Netflix built in so I do use a decent amount.
[HTC Rezound] Thadrow:
Woah, woah woah.

First, show me an article full of facts that says alot of data used is bad on your phone for everyone esle. Not assumptions.

Ive used 43 gbs so far. Why? At work and home usually nothing todo, so netflix, youtube, oovoo etc. Why you think its invented for? To use each app 5 mins each?

Its unlimited data. They went to tiered to make more money.

Ontop of that i pay 30 for the hotspot as well. If it says unlimited then why wouldnt i carry on as its unlimited ? If its a big world problem, verizon has my number. People like me who are in a huge percent arent affecting you. So chill out on getting mad at people who pay just like you for their service. They can do what they please.

Sorry, i really get annoyed at people who jump at others for using unlimited data the way they want to.

I guess i abuse my unlimited nights and weekend minutes too? Is that clogging your signal bars down ?
[HTC Rezound] nrfitchett4:
people like you are the problem because wireless bandwidth is a limited resource. That is more the reason to go to tiered plans. If you limit someone's data, they are more likely to switch over to wifi whenever possible.

Now I'm just waiting for verizon to cap speeds to further restrict use...
[HTC Rezound] tgeigel:
Ppl just need to calm down. First off tiered plans suck because some ppl dont have wifi at home so its easy to go thru 2 or 4gigs a month. So what if ppl use a lot of data they are still PAYING for it!
[HTC Rezound] jailbird2:
APs are dirt cheap these days. If you can afford a smartphone, you can afford an AP. Sorry, that's not an excuse.

If you were on a tiered plan then you would be paying for it. On the unlimited plans, people not using their data were basically subsidizing the cost of the others who were. So no, they really AREN'T paying for it.

Wireless spectrum is finite, and the cost of backhaul is insane. The service wasn't meant to be a wireline replacement.
[HTC Rezound] Grims:
How cheap is it to have a line from my ISP run out to my ranch?
[HTC Rezound] jailbird2:
I paid $200 + $55/mn for my business-class ISDN BRI to be installed at my ranch. While slow, it's still considered broadband.

---------- Post added at 11:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:26 PM ----------

There's also always HughesNet!
[HTC Rezound] tgeigel:
If you know how to shop then you can get a smartphone for cheap if anything at all. I got my razr for a penny! And it was brand new!

How are they not paying for it when its $30 a month? Also if the service wasn't meant to be a wireline then why did they add hotspot onto the phones?
[HTC Rezound] edc2:
i dont think this works any more right ? sucks i wanted to move to verizon
[HTC Rezound] chakra:
Yes I believe it still works.
[HTC Rezound] bobbysteels216:
This.
[HTC Rezound] Xaotikdesigns:
ISP is an acronym for Internet Service Provider. Verizon Wireless, by providing internet service whether it's via your phone or a dedicated mobile broadband device, is an ISP.

So you're actually the idiot.
[HTC Rezound] blestsol:
Lol.. Cold blooded.
[HTC Rezound] xHaVoK87:
Yes I can comfirm this no longer works as verizon is tracking accounts that made this attempt.
[HTC Rezound] spencer88:
OK so if I'm at a hotel and I'm paying to use their wireless internet, is they hotel an ISP? No they aren't. Verizon actually pays an ISP for internet bandwidth.

K?
[HTC Rezound] Xaotikdesigns:
The only reason that this ever worked, is because they were taking advantage of confusion during a change over in pricing. The only people that should have the unlimited data are the ones that were grandfathered in. The 4g mobile hotspot they are saying you should ask for is only available for people that already had the unlimited data.

If you were on one of the tiered plans, then you would then have to go with the current hotspot features, which aren't unlimited. This is the same for 4g or 3g devices.

I think that they finally did make the 29.99 unlimited data feature unavailable to add back on, so if you didn't have it before, even if you try and do this trick to confuse the rep and have them add it, it won't work.

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You realize that Verizon Wireless doesn't have a little Comcast cable modem sitting in an office somewhere with all the phones running through it, don't you?

Verizon Wireless is a service provider, that's what they do.

I believe you are confusing the terms ISP with tier 1 carrier

It is entirely possible that your ISP is paying someone else for bandwidth or access through different networks. Even if VZW isn't a tier 1 carrier (and I'm not sure if they aren't) it doesn't make them any less of an ISP.
[HTC Rezound] xHaVoK87:
Yeah would be nice for you guys that dont have unlimited but yeah sorry no longer working. I wished Verizon would allow this data package again. Glad im grandfathered in again!
[HTC Rezound] SallyC:
Apparently, according to CNN, you can get Unlimited for $30 from Verizon -if you buy an iPhone. "Limited time only"

EDIT: My bad. I just realized that's an old article? Sorry. :o
[HTC Rezound] DarkMinax:
It's funny that in my store, we were all talking about how AT&T has bumped up there data packages, and how the 2x data promo that VZW was running. I think VZW will bring back the 2x data but on a permanent basis to kind of one up on AT&T. We all then talked about the idea of bringing back unlimited data not at $29.99, but maybe $49.99, especially with 4G coming. I know I would pay $50 to have unlimited data in a heartbeat ....
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
To every one yelling NOOOOOOOOOOOOO to the guy who used 55Gb, I can use 20gb down loading BF3 in 2h. ( That's what I did for my laptop, becuase it's the cool thing to "download" games than get them on a DVD. I did buy a DVD, becuase my home internet sucked at the time and still does just not as bad.)

P.S I think even if my unlimited data stays, I may go with AT&T or sprint for LTE advaned. I have started a new bill so I will try to hit 100gb and then 200gb and see what my speed is. AT&T has never lowered my speed even with 15gb of use.

Edit: I hate steam and the idea of DVD just dieing, but I can only do but so much before the bug fest called steam takes over.
[HTC Rezound] sway40:
Of course it's easy to get that much data use from downloading a game, were talking about phone usage.

~ Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Cm9~
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
I used the Phones 4gLTE via USB to down load the game so I think it is phone useage. It did it 2-3x times faster than my home ISP could have.
[HTC Rezound] bnguyen1983:
No because Im willing to bet the hotel pays an ISP for the internet and sets up their own wireless AP.
[HTC Rezound] ajonesma:
I would pay $50 for unlimited too! I really hope they bring it back
[HTC Rezound] chakra:
Just add the 4g hotspot, this still works as far as I know.
[HTC Rezound] brisdaddy1207:
TARD.
[HTC Rezound] 4ktvs:
1) Is that all you have to say is "TARD" wow.

2)I don't like paying 24.99 for unlimited let a alone 50. I pay 15 on the big blue.

3) LTE advaned for all one day. :D
[HTC Rezound] xkelx:
Key problem with our economy, companys want alot for nothing and people want alot for nothing so we've reached an impass....as for me, i have 20GB data plan(double data) and just rooted(duhhhhhhh:p) so i have a 20GB LTE hotspot everywhere!
[HTC Rezound] chakra:
No one is being exploited. We don't have little Verizon's working in sweat shops I order to produce my data at a lower rate. They offered a plan and did not vet their process properly therebye leaving an opportunity for people who are smart enough to figure it out. As it is still open they obviously don't care that much or even though they say they don't like it they are using it to lure over people from AT&T. I left AT&T after six years because of this opportunity,without itiwould have never left.