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[Desire HD General] smanthrav:
I guess you could use runny4 with a script to free up Ram. You'll have around 270 MB ram after booting but of course, then script seems to kill the launcher sometimes....especially after using a resource heavy app. It's kinda annoying!

I've been using black ice ROM for a week now and I don't think I'll be coming back to sense, ever(except maybe to take a look at sense 4.0 when it comes out)! For me, it was just about finding the right widgets to replace the sense widgets. I've found quite a few excellent replacements in the market.

I'm still searching for something which can perfectly replace friendstream. I've tried pretty much everything there is...none of them work as well as friendstream did. Anyone got any ideas?
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
which theme you're using from theme chooser? using sense lockscreen app? which clock widget you're using...
[Desire HD General] MrBC:
For anyone who is missing the HTC weather wiget from Sense while they are on CM give Beautiful Widgets a try.

And I'm using the ICS beta. Sure there is no camera, you need to set up your data connection manually. The gallery force closes, but installing something like QuickPic gets round that. But all in all it is good enough for me to run day to day.
[Desire HD General] cordell507:
MIUI is pretty amazing, you dont have to use the default launcher you can install anyone you like but the theme engine is by far the best, it beats the Cyanogenmod theme engine. it can theme everything and i really mean everything from fonts to lockscreen to boot sound.
[Desire HD General] drewski83:
I agree with MIUI. Live the on the fly customization its capable of. And now with new ES Mod, you can enable native app drawer. Folder up the ones on home screen.
[Desire HD General] Destroyer706:
Try "android pro widgets" as a replacement for friend stream. Perfectly fits for me.
[Desire HD General] drolles:
All roms have their advantages and disadvantages...I love them all ^^

What bothers me on CM and MIUI is the Camera.

The DHD camera is really good and it is a pity that it is not really supported at both roms.

I am currently using ICS ... Although I have no camera but this rom is amazing :D
[Desire HD General] Ericj418:
I think the only thing that keeps me going on sense is the notification bar. I'm a big fan of how sense's pull down has a recent apps section an is split into two sections one for recent things and the other for quick settings.

I mean, I understand that you can get recent apps by long pressing home but the notification bar is in like most non full screen apps, pulling it down is simple.

I used to be hard core CM but then i started going back to Sense just for the way the notifications are set up. Perhaps if there is a notification bar recent apps plugin or fix for non Sense Roms, i would leave it.
[Desire HD General] BenRoark:
I'll never go back to Sense. I'd feel a bit crippled I reckon.

Cyanogenmod and all its offspring* rock my world.

(*Mad props to Project X, The Collective, Victoryo, DonUber, Richfish et al)
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
you guys mentioned about MIUI being able to be costomized. Is that like theme chooser? can someone direct me to a good MIUI rom? i would love to change my current CM lockscreen xD
[Desire HD General] Negazuotas:
Speaking of DHD I'd stick with Sense :) The parameters are sufficient, why shouldn't I make the best use of my phone?

However when it comes to lower spec phone (Desire Z, my primary), I'd stick with clean unbloated CM7 or simply modified stock ROM.
[Desire HD General] uxie ang:
sense all the way :)

i bought htc phone because of the htc sense :D
[Desire HD General] relldroid:
I agree cm7 does feels more Android-ish but maybe that's where Android went wrong compared to or rival ios, ppl complain how's its "complicated" but with sense it changes that and creates a unique ui so easy so efficient, I've just switched over to the sense roms afters' long life of cm7 because with miui and cm7 I I would constantly change my theme my widgets etc.. With sense its already there in a package which IMO gives a more use out the box feel

Swyped from just about every ROM in the HD2 section
[Desire HD General] cordell507:
it's like theme chooser but so so so much more powerful. Go to MIUIandroid.com and find the Desire hd and download it. The one thing is that sometimes you have to find just the right kernel for battery life.

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MIUI has quicksetting in the notification bar but no recent apps but you can hold down the home button for recent apps but that takes about 2 seconds.
[Desire HD General] shadowlabs9:
MIUI has all the advantages of sense and cm7:

eye candy

fast and stable (even with lots of apps installed)

excelent battery life

lots of free ram

fully customiz

Once you try MIUI for some time you will never go back to sense...

I'm a proud user of SCI MIUI!

Best regards
[Desire HD General] relldroid:
Scratch the battery life part buddy

Swyped from just about every ROM in the HD2 section
[Desire HD General] danikron:
I run MIUI Freshly Squeezed Edition and I feel like I usually get about the same battery life as I do on CM7. It hasn't really been a problem outside of a couple of versions that came with a kernel that had a battery drain bug.

Anyway, besides the fact that it's so easy to mix and match between parts of different themes, and that the settings are nicely organized and little things like that, I'm just addicted to the notification bar toggles and brightness slider (allergic to auto-brightness). That's what I miss the most when I try other ROMs. I don't use the MIUI launcher though, it doesn't really do it for me.

Also the in-call screen is much prettier than on most ROMs. :p
[Desire HD General] shadowlabs9:
Hi,

In fact battery life is one of the greater benefits that MIUI gave me... I can easily get 2 full working days with my normal use (with OEM battery):

several calls and sms per day

a lot of medical software consultation

some internet

I never have that battery life before with sense rom (except with Lee old froyo).

If I remember well, I think with Oxygen and Black Ice I can get slighter better results (very marginal through). But, again, overall I think MIUI is the best all-around rom (battery life, speed, light weight, lots of ram, simplicity, stability, eye candy, customization...) that I've tried.

By the way, I'm on SCI MIUI now and I was a sense addicted! until I spent about a week with MIUI... and wow what a difference...

Best regards
[Desire HD General] kerol_my:
1.I luv sense widget (calendar agenda, clock wheater, people ...)

2.I like miui toggle compare to sense quick setting.

3. I m using ARHD, but my heart with miui.

4. after used different roms, i realizied that i need other phone as for better battery performance.
[Desire HD General] llawarta:
My personal ranking :D

1. Sense 3.0

2. Sense 2.0

3. CM7

4. MIUI

yeah, I love sense :p
[Desire HD General] mutsc0:
Sense all the way!
[Desire HD General] relldroid:
That's sounds remarkablely better then anything I've gotten with it

Swyped from just about every ROM in the HD2 section
[Desire HD General] radixon:
I absolutely love MIUI. However due to a GPS problem which afaik only HTC have managed to fix with Sense I am stuck with it. I tried every AOSP Rom out there and every fix I could find and nothing worked. So now I'm using a special slimmed down version of ARHD. :)

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[Desire HD General] fubofo:
CM7, I think is better than ARHD. Was with ARHD for some time then moved to CM7, never going back!

I even compared side by side with new Sensation and my DHD blew it away. Honestly see no reason to change this phone for a few years...

For me, this is the greatest setup,

CM7 nightly

LordModUE 8.5

OC 1.2 GHz

UV -25mhz

Copilot live (audio fixed)

Go launcher

Go contacts

Go SMS

WidgetLocker

Swype latest

Quick Pic

Only things I need are to find a better looking in-call screen and clock/stopwatch similar to stock HTC.
[Desire HD General] NatsuDragneell:
Long time sense user but recently switch to.cm 7 and feel in love

BlackIce v1.23 Glacier HD

Tdj's Demonspeed v10 Kernel

ClockWorkMod Recovery 5.0.2.0
[Desire HD General] DubelBoom:
Sense 3.5 is the BEST!!!

i tried CM7, MIUI and ICS beta, and non of them i didnt love as the SENSE :)
[Desire HD General] cordell507:
i tend to get much better battery life from the MIUI ROM's from MIUI.us than from xda or miuiandroid.com
[Desire HD General] yazoonic:
sense 3.5 is the best ... i tried all cm7 is good , but sense 3.5 still better
[Desire HD General] dalanik:
Interesting to read all opinions on various ROMs... I really love Sense, tried all lounchers on DHD and also have Samsung, but Sense is really the best. I tried to find widgets to make different lounchers or Samsung Galaxy look like sense (and have it's functionality) but it's simply not good enough.

That's why I'm hesitating with flashing another ROM. But what I'm most afraid of is that no ROM will work 100% - from reading various threads, I came to conclusion that all cooked ROMS have some flaws, and I don't mean conceptual flaws but technical. i.e. on one camera doesn't work, on other something else.

But on the other hand, Sense is a memory hog. It crashes on me like once a week, and the only conclusion I have with these crashes (more like reboots) is that I use way too many programs and widgets. But I'm pretty stubborn as to what a UI should look like :)

Now, what ROM would you recommend that works with most of the stuff? I'd hate to backup everything, flash, restore etc only to find out i.e. camera or GPS don't work :)

regards,

D.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
The only way to find a rom that will run the way you want with the UI you want is to try them out yourself. No one will be able to tell you how any rom runs for you and your setup
[Desire HD General] Haggistech:
yeah thats what i did

i did not like Sense roms

but i tried Miui and CM7

i then installed different launches and played about with settings till i got what i wanted
[Desire HD General] dalanik:
Yes, I get that, but if some BASIC part of functionality is omitted or doesn't work, then there's no need to try it, is there? :)
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
That depends on how important that basic feature is to you. Like I purposely break the GPS function in my personal roms as its a hog and I don't need it.

Flashing custom roms never has been and never will be 100% bug free. If it was then there would be nothing for us to do lol
[Desire HD General] fubofo:
Lol of course you're gonna love sense more than any other ROM, because you even try to make other ROMs look/act like sense.

There is more to a ROM than just a homescreen and widgets. I have tried quite a few ROMs and I can verify CM7 is the best in terms of functionality, features, speed, etc. everything works and while it does look basic at first, it's just a matter of spending some time customising it to your taste.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Its not just the launcher and widgets but sense is the best over all UI due to how intergrated it is with the system. And as for as everything working on CM well that depends on how you look at it. I personally can't use CM due to the signal strength with wifi and BT loss due to the lack of the proprietary drivers. The Open source radio drivers are proven weaker in signal and that is just something I can't deal with. So it really is to each his own. I really like sense for the intergeation. None do it better. Is it a memory hog? Always has been and always will be but that is expected with everything it does. I will take great system wide unity over a bunch of pointless options any day. As for the Sense launcher, well that does kinda suck lol
[Desire HD General] hayabusa08:
Imho if u dun like sense... Sell off yur htc n get any other phones with better specs. Sense is what makes htc special. Cm7, miui will always beat sense in speed n memory. But both will never beat sense for what sense has to offer. The widgets, the dialer, the lockscreen, the app drawer and MORE. They cn boast abt speed n memory but never functions. Why install widgets to make it feel sense like when u dun need to install any on sense. I hv used xperia arc, galaxy s2 and HD2 and tried miui to cm to sense. Sense makes HTC. Change that n u will be just another phone on android. Htc with sense. Miui with what? Cm with what? Anyway im on coredroid v8.1 n i have tested arhd n few other sense, miui and cm roms. But i like the themed version of sense on coredroid. Slightly slower but a great n stable rom. Sense have never crashed. Using it for few months now. Battery life is abt 12 hrs on average. But thats where a portable charger is an advantage. Who cares. The world isnt short of power sockets anyway. Battery gets low just charge it. Battery issue has been in any rom since it came out. 2 fulldays on battery which is 48hrs is bullsh**. On standby maybe but on usage were not kids. So forget abt battery life cos it will have issues on any sense or miui or cm. Cheers
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
you can have sense lockscreen on miui :P

i agree with you on the standby time...i mean no one buys the phone to put it on standby so even mentioning that is useless. Getting a bigger battery is an advantage though.

Anyways, i'm on miui at the moment and it's working well for me. I'm waiting for a stable release of Ice cream sandwich and i'll switch to that one. I think sense will be ported to ICS and maybe ICS might have higher free ram than GB
[Desire HD General] Colpophage:
Snowpatrol has a great post. He loves sense, while I have started to hate sense after trying some AOSP ROMs.

That's the first crucial decision you have to make. If there is a sense widget you cannot live without, you need to move to sense ROMs.
[Desire HD General] BenRoark:
I have to disagree with you Hayabusa. I enjoy my HTC a great deal more since I ditched Sense altogether. I wont go into listing negatives or my own criticisms of HTC's stock interface, because I don't think it will improve the thread, but the positives of Cyanogen, MIUI and other AOSP ROMs far outweigh (for me) the ability to have certain widgets depicting clouds floating around or animated flip clocks or whatever. So... to sell my phone coz I don't like Sense? Nah, in my mind I've improved it enormously. :-)
[Desire HD General] Colpophage:
That is very well expressed, especially considering I don't want to be incendiary either.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
It really is a personal thing. I personally run a senseless rom that removes alot of Sense but keeps the best parts. Mainly the drivers that are far better then AOSP drivers. And on that note MIUI is not AOSP
[Desire HD General] Colpophage:
Sense is default Android, highly customized. MIUI is default Android, highly customized. cm7 or BlackIce is default Android with the availability to customize.
[Desire HD General] ijball:
I think it's a matter of preference. Sense for me just because of the widgets. :)
[Desire HD General] hayabusa08:
Ben what i meant was sense makes HTC stands out from the rest of the brands. U want to use miui or cm7 its your choice. It will be just like any other android. :) u can get a better phone than the dhd and load it with miui or cm7 and it will be much faster than yur dhd on miui or cm7. But put sense on a samsung or motorola? See if it performs as well. Back to basics why u bought the dhd? Why not galaxy s or something equivalent? Get what i meant? Thanks
[Desire HD General] aLmoravado:
I haven tried Sense ROMs as well as CM; I think the overall feel of Sense 3.5 is yet to be matched. There are lags at times, but I can live with that.

Sense might be one of the strongest selling points for HTC, and I think it will be hard for me to buy from another manufacturer as I might always have the option of going back to Sense...
[Desire HD General] vovak43r:
+1

Miui is great!
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Very personal opinion. Try all yourself.

Personally sense = daily driver.

Miui = fun rom when Bored of sense

Can't live with cm7

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Sent from my HTC Desire S
[Desire HD General] :
I tried MIUI, CM and Sense Roms. Stayed at CM. MIUI in my opinion looks to much like iPhone.
[Desire HD General] BenRoark:
Do people really use the stock launcher with MIUI though? Whenever I've used it, it's always been with Go Launcher, so I barely know I'm even on MIUI except when using the Settings/Toggles interface (which is excellent)...
[Desire HD General] macanovic88:
I installed cyanogenmod7 a month ago and stayed on it. I have not tried other ROMs because I am very satisfied with this, the speed is amazing! But honestly I miss Sense...
[Desire HD General] arknailed7754:
Yeah miui does remind of iphone (bad times),ive tried it though its quite impressive,just cant leave sense!

Sent from my home phone
[Desire HD General] paszczi:
For a long time I've sticked with Sense ROM (Android Revolution, kudos mike!), but it felt quite heavy, besides I love trying new things. About a month ago I switched to MIUI. At first, I missed Sense stuff a lot (agenda widget, weather etc.), but then I found a great replacements and I think now, I couldn't switch back to Sense ROM. The great advantage of AOSP based roms is that you get to play new Android versions quicker than HTC would officially release them (especially now, when DHD seems to be less and less supported by them). One thing about MIUI is that it feels iPhonish, especially the launcher without app drawer, but I found that Go Launcher EX is great and it became my default launcher. Besides I love built-in firewall, network usage monitor, compass etc.
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
I've stayed on MIUI for a month now but the thing is i'm finding battery drain issues on RD-MIUI so my first question would be that which MIUI version is the best, speed and battery wise. Other question to you specifically is that which widgets you're using to get the sense feeling because i've been looking for a while and can't find satisfactory ones :/

Hope i get my answers.

Cheers!
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
bump.....anyone?
[Desire HD General] wakers:
I'm using Mr Garak's freshly squeezed miui and battery life seems pretty good to me...
[Desire HD General] pnguyen7:
DLNA Functionality in CM7?

I'm a relative newb with custom roms and stuff...I've been browsing the forum lots and trying to learn as much as possible. So far, I haven't been able to find the answers to the two questions I'm going to ask:

1)

I used CM7 for about two weeks and for the life of me couldn't find a way to stream and view media from my NAS to my phone. Anyone know if CM7 has that functionality?

2)

I also found that the photo/media album in Sense 2.0/3.0 also allows me to "hide" specific photo albums....any such feature in CM7? I like the features of Sense, but think it's a little bloated (available RAM is always hovering at only 110-125MB free). CM7 is blazing fast.
[Desire HD General] wakers:
I do why wouldn't you ?
[Desire HD General] BenRoark:
Because other launchers have far more options through which you can access and display your stuff. eg: Go Launcher.
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
I personally like MIUI launcher and find it easier to use :P

1. NAS?

2. MIUI is faster and i think you'll find similar functionality in MIUI album "hide photo album" and best part about MIUI is that there is way too much customization.

I'm having battery drain issues overnight. Maybe that's because of my radio? haven't tried freshly squeezed but other versions, my battery goes down by 10-15% overnight
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Best way to find your battery drain is to set up a running logcat and leave the phone hooked up to the PC over night. While most of it won't make sense you will see alot of things that will.
[Desire HD General] wakers:
Dont really understand what you mean i have everything in folders like apps etc and i have a folder for apps i don't use, most stuff is at most 2 clicks away while messages, emails, phone and contacts are a single click away with the launcher..

But its all personal preference I love the 3d cube effect with miui launcher proper slick :)
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
thing is...i don't find appropriate rom with good battery life, decent amount of ram available for me so that i can do decent amount of tasking and a smooth scrolling experience. I don't find these things in any of the rom.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
Well I would look at your phones set up. Yes sense roms don't have alot of ram at boot, but then if you are worried about your amount of ram then android may not be your best bet. I normally have about 300mb on boot on my custom rom. Android has one of the best memory management system to date. If it needs the ram it will get it.
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
The. 3d cube has been around for a while. Adw was first with it and personal is the best launcher on the market.
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
which rom you use. I don't care if it's CM7 or Sense. As long as it's stable and is doing the job, i'm happy. Give me some recommends about radio/kernel/rom you're using so that i can have similar setup if it's a good one
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
MY set up is a custom rom that is not released. If I was gonna suggest a decent rom. Well for Sense I would go with Android Rev HD, For a AOSP rom you could try Absolution. The battery life on both are great. Each device is different, you will have to find your own personal best set up. Maybe to help you understand Ill tel lyou what I look for personally in a rom. This will be mostly just what works for me and how I use the phone.

First I stick to an official base from HTC. (better driver intergration)

Now we all know there are parts of Sense that just flat out sux lol but not all of it. So I find a script that can remove parts of Sense that I dont need. Like launcher, messaging, email, lockscreen, and ereader. I have 3rd party apps that do it better so no need for the extra bloat. I also dont do most social networking and I hate FB so those go to along with maps.

Then I try out a few kernels to find one that works well with my set up. I normally dont OC/UV as if the rom cant run on defaults then there is an issue. lol

Radio is really area dependent. I have to swap radios out when I leave here to travel as my best radio/ril combo here sucks in the lower 48 lol.

After all that I have a rom that has the best of Sense and runs perfect for me. This may not and I know WILL not work for alot of people due to me removing maps and GPS programs. I just dont use them, so why have them.

You see what I am getting at? You will have to try and find what works best for you and how you use your device. There is no Perfect or Best Rom.
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
Android revolution was the one I was on and by the end of the day I faced a couple of crashes and a free ram of about 100mb using task killer...and cm7 Rom have compatibility issues although I'm on miui and i get constant force closes on 3rd party apps...so iv thougth about switching back to sense for stability but people don't seem to prefer anything besides Arhd..I mean I either don't have time or good internet speed to check every sense Rom with huge sizes :p
[Desire HD General] BenRoark:
What compatibility issues have you encountered with CM7 ROMs? Are you referring to the Android Market messages that pop up when screen resolution is set to higher DPI by default (eg: BlackIce)?
[Desire HD General] shad0wboss:
I'm using MIUI at the moment and a couple of third party apps have been giving me force close issues including dailymotion streaming app. I also had browser not responding as well. I don't know what's causing this and the battery is way too poor. I'm using Eva MIUI
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
I am would look at what you have running and also your signal. Being in a low signal area will cause your battery to drain fast as well. This is the battery life I get on a sense based rom