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[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] m0bster:
+1

Can some of a lucky TFP owners play a couple of lossless tunes using a good quality cans and give us a verdict on SQ please?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
I can definitely do this in a bit. I have some sennheiser RS160s that I really enjoy the audio quality of...they arent super audiophile material, but...

Lil money for nothing in FLAC coming up!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] speed4134:
cant comment on losseless audio,only have 256kbs mp3s and i have to say that i am impressed with the sound quality im getting with my ipod earbuds....i actually think that it actually sounds better than my ipod with the same earbuds.

So hopefully,your going to be pleased with your music
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
So i just plugged my cans in for the first time.

First, and don't let this scare you, but there is TERRIBLE hiss and static when the prime has no audio output. I don't know why. When the prime kicks off any sound, notification, music, youtube, anything, you can almost hear a "click" and the hiss goes completely silent right before the output starts.

EDIT: this may be feedback from my cans not having any audio input.

I've listened to some FLAC samples and some 320kbps mp3s that were converted from FLAC for my phone. So far i'm pretty impressed.

Dire Straits - Money for Nothing - FLAC

Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms - 320kbps MP3 from FLAC

Nickelback - Good times Gone (320kbps MP3)

Disturbed - Meaning of Life - 320kbps mp3 from FLAC

Loreena McKennit - Incantation - FLAC

I can't detect any flaws in the output. Dynamic range and detail i find to be at least on par with the capability of my RS160s...perhaps a slight "flatness" to mid-vocals, noticeable only with the loreena mckennitt track, upper range vocals are very crisp. Unfortunately i don't have any of my floorstanders wired up at the moment so that's about all the testing i can do.

I'll be curious to hear some impressions from someone with a better trained ear than myself.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Magnesus:
Thanks. I was worried a little about the change because I heard Realtec sound chips several times and I have Realtec in my laptop and they sound really horrible (and I mean REALLY HORRIBLE, like an old radio) even if they state 100dB SNR in specification. I'll probably try connecting my USB sound card to transformer soon (just for fun), but it probably won't work. :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] m0bster:
Thanks a lot for your comments!

RS160s are wireless, right?

So that might explain the static!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] BarryH_GEG:
It's actually Teg2 that had the Wolfson DAC. You might try looking for info on Teg3 to see if Nvidia's still using it. Or contact them and ask what DAC they're using in Teg3.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] tdrussell:
Correct, after some more use I think that's the culprit!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] holmern:
Using some Shure SE530 freebies from work. So far the audio quality has been good as long as the source material is up to par. Audio from streaming sources (google music) has been hit or miss.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] m0bster:
So far so good! Thank you!

Any hissing with SE530?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] holmern:
I hear a very very slight hiss. Nothing unexpected though. And hiss does not follow volume level so I wouldn't worry about it.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] CyberChulo:
Is the audio low in most YouTube videos on this tablet? I can barely hear most of the videos that I am streaming. Music plays nice and loud but videos don't.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] holmern:
With headphones or on the speaker? Using the built in speaker it can be a bit low depending on the video.

With headphones I can turn it up above my listening threshold.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] xTRICKYxx:
I am no audiophile.

But, the external speaker on the prime is very loud and clear. It is not tinny unlike other tablets. The sound quality sounds really good with earbuds. I do not get a hiss at all. I tried plugging in the buds, turning volume to full, and played no audio and I do not hear a thing. I tried two different ear buds (Apple's ****, and some ****ty ones my dad gave me). I do not have the dock yet, but on my old TF101, I plugged my Turtle beaches in to listen to some FLAC audio files and they sounded good. I do not know if there will be a hiss with USB powered headphones.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] manimattor:
Sounds pretty good to me.

Sounds quite neutral, it also seems to be a better analog interconnect. I got noticible hiss and crackles out of my tf101.

That being said , I wish there was a way to get LOD out of this.

When the devie is not playing, and hooked up to an amp, there is ALOT of noise bleeding out of the left channel.

Robin Thicke- angels from evolution of robin thicke

Akg q701 with and without total airhead amp
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] m0bster:
:eek:

Is your amp connected to the headphone socket of the prime?

Is it noisy while playing music? Or just when idle?

Does this noise depend on the volume level of the prime?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jinx405:
Hey all,

Thanks for the responses so far! I’m yet to get my hands on the Prime (Australia might only be getting stock in next week) so that’s a bummer.

Good range of test music indeed :) have you tried using wired cans? Has the hissing been reduced/disappeared when using different headphones?

Ah, I didn’t know that. The Prime teardown I found last month revealed the Realtek when I was looking around before. A google search today gives me this:

http://www.chipworks.com/en/technic...sus-eeepad-transformer-prime-full-of-goodies/

Me too! Realtek have been a hit and miss lately, and I was afraid Asus might screw this up.. just like Samsung using an inferior DAC on the GS2 when compared to the GS1…

Wow really? has anyone else with a Prime have this problem?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jzen:
The audio from headphones is nothing amazing but it doesnt suck either... It does have a hiss sound when no audio is playing which is rather lame..

Also if you have a usb hooked up to your computer you can hear your computers HDD clicking about in your headphones which is also kinda lame.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] wynand32:
I have zero hiss when using wired headphones. I have no more hiss than any other device when using Bluetooth headphones.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Coop666:
I'm thinking about buying the transformer prime as a replacement for my netbook. And as I'm a hifi-enthusiast. I'm very much interested in the soundquality. I have multiple high-end headphones and some headphone amps that are not the best available, but all selected for their synergy with my headphones, that I can use for testing, so if anyone who owns a transformer prime and wants to meet up sometime to put the prime through its paces, just give me a shout.

The gear I have available:

headphones:

High end:

AKG K702

Audio Technica ATH-ES10

Westone UM3X

Mid end(?):

AKG K530ltd

Sennheiser IE7 (if I can find it, can't remember where I put it)

Westone 1

And also some really cheap stuff like AKG K430, Sennheiser CX-300, UE150, Koss the Plug etc.

Headphone amps:

iBasso D2+ (amp/usb dac combo)

Fiio E7 (amp/usb dac combo)

Fiio E9

Also Pioneer & vintage Sony amps and Jamo & Tangent Audio speaker setups available for testing.

I'm located in Tilburg, the Netherlands

Anyone up for it? :)
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] manimattor:
Yeah I still have a ton of ilde noise...

Anyone else????
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] m0bster:
I think that TP is not audiophile device.

Realtek ALC5621 DAC is what they call "average", I simply call it crap. Not coming close to Wolfson by a large margin _for me_. If you can stand an average laptop sound then you will be fine.

Idle noises/clicks indicate low quality hardware routing on the device. Means no voodoo magic will ever help it...

Conclusion: try to play your favorite tune into your favorite cans on an average asus laptop with Realtek DAC. That is exactly the sound quality experience you will have with TP.

Don't buy into marketing bs, trust your ears.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Belgorm:
Using a set of ETY 4S and a PA2v2 amp and i do not hear any click, pops, farts, nada!

Sounds amazing, don't buy into the hate.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] p3t0r:
Music from the TP sounds Soo0ooooo much better than the SGS2 - even with all the tweaks etc, stock sound from the TP is very nice!
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Peter Galbavy:
Coincidentally, I have to disagree. I Have a Galaxy Note and now the Prime. Tried them both last night with a friends midrange closed back headphone - forgotten the model already, sorry - and the Note won hands down. Same FLAC files, same PowerAmp player, Equ off, Tones off.

I normally listen through a Sony MW600 Bluetooth headphone thing with cheap Senn earbuds (at the moment), so I am not that bothered about the direct output of either device but I thought I would share...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] manimattor:
I gave up trying to listen to music through my TFP...

unfortunately, the TF1 is way better, for music at least...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] buxtahuda:
I can confirm the TFP is sadly lacking in audio quality. Plugged into the audio of a vehicle, you will hear a constant and very loud static feedback that disappears on audio output.

This device is indeed not for audiophiles. This is something I just recently discovered and is making me seriously doubt the TFP now. I have my phone to make up for any lost functions from the Prime, but I should be able to break my phone and still consume media to my liking.

Is there any way to put forth some kind of software fix that would output constant audio, but that audio be pretty much nothing? Any way to leave this plugged in even when silent would be nice...
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] G37:
I put several FLAC tracks on my prime that detail a good spectrum of highs/mids/lows. I also have a great pair of Sony MDR-v6 can that are full-dynamic ($70). I'm an audiophile, a bedroom DJ, and maturer electronic music producer, so in my own mind, I think I have a good ear for quality (I only rip in FLAC, and you CAN tell the difference :))

In my honest assessment, I thought the sound quality was great on both of the primes I owned.

I've heard of some complaints that it wasn't loud enough, but I think all tablets/phones have that issue as it is difficult to push enough load to a 40mm driver. None the less, I never had this issue, I though volume was great and I enjoyed using Google Music.

Hope that helps
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Deltaechoe:
Sorry to bring this post back from the grave, but I'm going to bump it for the people who care about their music.

As far as driving my hd 650s, the sound is a bit meh, somewhat flat mids, not as tight bass as it could have been the highs seem alright to me. This is not an audiophile quality DAC and after listening to it very critically for awhile i can conclude that while it performs alright, it does seem inferior to the TF101. However this should not deter you too much from getting this tablet as it is a great tablet and the audio difference is really very hard to tell for most people and I don't think you will hear it unless you play FLAC files through serious cans (basically not beats or things lower than 200 dollars)

Also, I'm hearing rumblings of external USB Dac support before long in the android kernel (only rumor), so the built in DAC might not even be an issue for much longer.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dahuman:
I guess it's my turn to bring this back from another grave, I have an Atrix 4G which is a Tegra 2 and the TF201 sounds nowhere close to my phone when I'm in my car with a 22 AWG wire. I guess Tegra 2 > Tegra 3 in the audio department by a mile lol.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bangdrum:
So with all this troubling info on CIQ I saw that verizon stated they do not have it installed on any of there devices. Anyone on a stock rooted verizon rom want to test this and post it here? How do we know there telling the truth?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
I checked the applications list on a

unrooted

stock verizon rom, and nothing there with "IQ" or "CIQ" in it's name, seems clean. Maybe I was looking in the wrong place though.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bangdrum:
Yea the problem with that is it may be under a different name.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Letitride:
Checked the red DI2 while it was still stock on HB.98 and afterward on RMK's Ginger Sense, rechecked it on SK's Zeus 1.3 - looked clear of CIQ.

However, while it's stripped of most if not all VZW bloatware, it is still running many Google & HTC apps on the device, I wouldn't be sure as others said. Besides, as long as location-based is checked & it's using data - one can be sure "Big Brother" is watching/monitoring somewhere .... the Patriot Act or otherwise, LOL.

Use common sense, it's a smartphone with a browser .... Facebook, Twitter, SMS/MMS, IM, Talk & GV, etc. !
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PacerguyDon:
If anyone wants to check to be sure that the Ciq stuff is gone, use This

It's an easy check. Will also take care of any other loggers as well if there are any.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] chattguy:
Verizon went on record as saying they don't use CIQ, so I guess we can trust them on that...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] artvandelay440:
They may not use CIQ, but you can bet they have some form of data analytiçs on their devices.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
I ran this on my unrooted Dinc 2 and it came back clean.... It seems they are telling the truth. Who knows about other software though.

Sent from my Dinc 2.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PacerguyDon:
Just for curiosity did you check the Htc logger setting as well?

I am glad to know that stock there is no Ciq. Thanks for posting the result.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cac2us:
We don't use torture"

Right, just like that Cha Hanus VP back in the Bush Wack days said "We don't do it".

Doesn't mean that they don't hire it out under a different name..

Is HTC North or South Korea? I bet they are somewhere in between.

Did CARNORVOR ever end up devouring itself?

For years Brit's have spied on the US for the US and the US has spied on Britten for Britten just so they each could say "We don't conduct those type of operations".

HAH. I say If ya want to know, ask. Otherwise it's just second hand news...

And that's what got US to cleanup up Iraq. No wait a minute, It was because SadMan insulted Pa Pa Hog Wash Bush.

I better quit while I am still breathing.... And the ruels of engaugement will change yet again.:eek:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cstone1991:
No problem. I just ran the HTC Logging Tools test and there are 4 hits on that one.

System/app/qxdm2sd.apk

system/app/qxdm2sd.odex

system/lib/libhtcqxdm2sd.so

System/bin/htc_ebdlogd

I know the first 3 are all parts of the same app. Not sure what the last one is but it appears to be some kind of log. I assume its the log created by the app but thats just a guess.

Let me know if there is anything else you want me to test because I will probably be rooting my phone this weekend.

Sent from my Dinc 2.
[HTC Inspire 4G] stubey:
I don't want to run an app for this. Was just wondering if any roms had it built in.

Seems like every time you want to show somebody ONE picture they go scrolling through them all.
[HTC Inspire 4G] Gizmoe:
There is no native gallery lock. What you could do though is create a folder where you put pics you want to share and before showing somebody hide all but that album. But really, what kind of pictures are you taking with your phone.... (just kidding, don't answer that :P)
[HTC Inspire 4G] notobsessivejustcurious:
MIUI has that option.
[Atrix 4G General] Morpheaous:
So here is what happened. I made a backup of a stock atrix firmware and copied the backup to my atrix on deodexed 2.3.4. I tried to install the backup but it stops somewhere along the line and says error formatting data.

now the phone wont connect to the computer. when i opened rsdlite however it shows that the device is connected.the phone bootloops and I cant copy anything to the phone cause i cant connect to the phone except through rsd sorry if i posted in the wrong section cause this is the only one i can post in. and i searched for solutions but no one has this same problem. PLEASE HELP
[Atrix 4G General] ltdanno360:
then if you CAN use rsd lite place phone in rds lite mode then use "stock sdk from motorola and flash it back i went all the way ro 1.26 then over rhe air updated to 1.83

but i also continued on to unlocked bootloader and flashed gigerbread build (alien ) after installing cwm

im also on usa at&t fyi
[Atrix 4G General] Morpheaous:
I tried to flash the official 2.3.4 found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1181932 but now i just have a locked bl. and it still bootloops. Can you give me little more detailed instructions on what you did. I'm not too experienced.
[Atrix 4G General] msd24200:
Did u do factory reset after the flash
[Atrix 4G General] voidlogik:
My atrix wont even boot to the RSD etc selection screen

So i had my phone rooted and wanted to unlock the bootloader so i followed the steps from pudding but it did not work. everyone has a NS version of the phone in RSD Lite but mine was SE not sure why. So i tried a few times to flash the new image and clear everything out to no avail. now i don't even get to the menu that gives me 5 seconds to select what method i want to use to fix it.

all i get is a flash of this on the screen before it goes black again

SVF:105:1:2

Failed to boot 0x1000

(stays for a second)

Entering NWFlash Recovery Mode

(Flashes under the other text but really fast before the screen goes blank)

windows wont even recognize that its plugged in. but what else is odd is that while plugged in it seems to be charging as the green notification light stays on.

any help would be great. thank you
[Atrix 4G General] sanriver12:
isnt that a hard brick? it's over.
[Atrix 4G General] voidlogik:
really?? no way to unbrick it?
[Atrix 4G General] Jibraldor:
Bootloops means soft bricks which is not really a problem. When your phone Boots up, press the down key along worth the power button. Then keep pressing down button until you see Android Recovery. Do a factory reset or flash another room once in there.
[Atrix 4G General] Kleine89:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1165154
[Atrix 4G General] Jibraldor:
Sounds like a hard brick indeed. At this moment in time hard bricks are incurable but some people said that taking their battery out and putting it back into their phones solved their problem. You might want to give it a shot.

A guy also claimed thay its possible to unhardbrick your phone using the jtag technique. You might want to read up on it.
[Atrix 4G General] ltdanno360:
aIf it says failed to boot x1 its real bad but i got a failed to boot x2 and got it fixed but x1 tragic
[Atrix 4G General] Phalanx7621:
English plz.
[Atrix 4G General] atrixuk:
me too :(

There's soo many forums and different avenues to go down! after about 9 hours trying various things to make my atrix (running normal 2.3.4 rooted with no other cm7 or rom or any other mod) i am left with my atrix at the boot screen OR if i leave it to boot it just makes the logging on noises then shows the white screen, then nothing.

I stupidly followed the list to freeze using bloatfreezer. Not the updated list where it reads next to HOME (make sure you have another launcher) so i have frozen 'home' and i am stuck.

i cannot do a recovery because it has that fail message x2 everytime i do the power volume - and + on the android recov.

I am completely lost. i do not understand what hard/soft/adw/ push email/ or other jargon means. If you have any solutions i'd be more than grateful.

I hope i haven't bricked my phone, cos a 2year contract and no new phone is gonna push me near that ledge lol :(
[Atrix 4G General] Kage_:
I'd recommend starting a new thread w/ your issue. It's more likely to be seen and answered by someone who could help.
[Atrix 4G General] G-Man.:
If you're on AT&T - get RSD lite and find the proper sbf file and flash it. If you were using Gingerbread, make SURE you have a GINGERBREAD sbf file - or else you'll permanently brick your phone. If you're on Bell - you'll need the appropriate file for Bell to flash, same rules apply - If your on gingerbread, make SURE its a gingerbread file you're flashing.
[Atrix 4G General] ltdanno360:
you need to have an unlocked bootloader to flash Any custom rom PM me ill show ya how its not too hard

a pc a atrix and a few files and you will

be up n running in no time at all:cool:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] dru858:
...really? Anandtech says that the Prime has a Broadcom controller capable of 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz but that the Prime only works at 2.4 GHz. Why is this? Is this a hardware imposed limitation or can it be changed via software? My 5 GHz WLAN at home is screaming and interference-free whereas my 2.4 GHz WLAN is being thrashed by my wireless IP cams and there are lots of neighboring APs on that band. It won't stop me from buying the Prime but really ASUS? Why limit it? My POS Atrix 4G connects to my 5 GHz WLAN.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] ChrisDos:
I was dissapointed in finding this out too. I doubt it could be made to work since the wifi antenna would need to be created for the 5.8ghz band and most likely, connected to the 5.8ghz portion of the chip.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
AFAIK, the only dual-band Android tabs are the OG Xoom and the Samsung GT 10/8.9/7+. Everything else is b/g/n only. The Moto Xoom 2 (aka XYBoard) tabs should be dual-band as well. Yes, I'm keeping track since I have a dual-band setup.

For DYI'ers, you can try replacing the built-in antenna with a dual-band PIF antenna. The antenna pigtail (cable) uses a U.FL connector, so no soldering needed. I have some pulls from a busted Cisco router. Probably won't work, since supporting chips (RF amps, etc) for 5GHz band are probably missing, but couldn't hurt to try.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] morphiend:
Anandtech and CNET both reported severe issues with WiFi connectivity. Is this something we should be concerned about?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] darth_suicune:
It's already known they both got deffective units.

About the antenna, the first thing i read in the specifications of the tablet was that it would only connect to 2.4GHz, so it was there since day one.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] polbit:
Wow, I didn't realize this... This might actually be a deal-breaker for me, since the 2.4GHz freq is so saturated around my house and inside, I pretty much have to run on 5GHz. Why in the world would you exclude 5GHz... This totally blows.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] kanariya:
how would this affect my daily usage?
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] jeandujardin01:
the hardware supports 5GHz, but Asus disable it in the software for battery life reason.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] Ravynmagi:
It most likely won't affect most people at all.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] e.mote:
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/5178/an-update-on-transformer-prime-battery-life-wifi-issues

The interesting bits were about wifi performance:

"The original Transformer was made out of plastic, through which RF travels quite nicely. The Prime's metal construction makes things a bit more finicky. Indeed this is exactly what I saw, where depending on tablet and AP orientation I'd see anywhere between 10Mbps and 36Mbps downstream (average speed tended to be in the 15 - 20Mbps range)."

"TF Prime's WiFi performance is far more sensitive to orientation to the AP when compared to the original Transformer."
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] RussianMenace:
Just going to have to wait for devs to hack the wifi module.