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[General Accessories] stelph:
Hi kdarling, I wonder if you could help me by answering a couple of questions about the WIMM one as although there are a few reviews online I cant seem to find all the answers I was after

1) I assume this doesnt currently have GPS? It doesnt seem to mention it in any of the reviews so I assume not, and if so then thats a shame since there is real potential here for this to be the ideal "athlete" device which could log your training routes/speed etc especially in cases where you might not want to take your phone with you

2) How well does the Transflective screen work? Ive seen in reviews that it is updated every minuite but is that adjustable in the app? Again the reason I am asking is for sports being outside in the sun a "normal" LCD screen is unusable, but a transflective screen would be perfect for displaying stats like speed etc but only if it were updating more often then every minuite

3) how "easy" is it to develop apps for this? Again as mentioned I can see a real sporting potential for this device if you were able to launch apps that were specific for the sport you were doing (i.e. one for running, rowing, cyling etc) that displayed the data you wanted

If you could help with my questions would be great, have been looking/waiting for a dvice like this for a while really, just as shame that theres no GPS as thats an essential requirement really.. :(
[General Accessories] carnagecjb:
I'm not kdarling, but I have one of these as well, so let me take a stab at answering... ;)

1) The device does have GPS, but, according to WIMM, that particular chip is disabled (via software) currently for power saving / performance reasons. I'm not positive, but I believe that the device could receive GPS information from a connected phone also.

2) The Transflective screen is absolutely amazing. The clarity is much better than I was expecting. Currently, there is no method to adjust the refresh rate for the apps that use that screen mode. From what I've been able to ascertain, the refresh rate can be specified within a given application. However, that seems to have a fairly negative effect on the battery life.

3) I'm not a "real" developer, so I honestly can't speak on this... However, having said that, I will state that it seems very marginally more difficult that developing for most other android devices, mostly due to the inherent with a device of this size/specs/interface.

I can say that this device, as it is right now, is absolutely fantastic. It has the potential to provide a tremendous impact in everyday life with a few minor tweaks, but even without any changes, it has made a significant impact so far for me.
[General Accessories] stelph:
AH thats brilliant thanks!Very interesting to hear that it does contain GPS then, even if it is disabled, since that suggests in future it may be able to activate it for those times when you would need it, and then disable it when you need battery life!

Will keep a close eye on this I think...
[General Accessories] kenigart:
+ 10000000 Thanks
[General Accessories] jerrygooch:
Sweet, so I should probably order soon then eh? :D
[General Accessories] mastermikeywwt:
Has anybody had a stab at the I'm Watch yet? I'd really like to know before I buy one.
[General Accessories] Daemos:
X2

As long as it has a 40 hour or so battery life it's not much differernt than using a manual wristwatch.

I'd have to say though compared to the I'm Watch the wimm one is really ugly.
[General Accessories] tedladd:
@carnagecjb Great reply. I couldn't have said it better myself.

@stelph By your use of the word "brilliant", I surmise that you live outside of the U.S. Good and bad news. Bad: We don't ship the WIMM One outside of the US yet, since we're still waiting for CE certification.

Good news: We just started a contest where I will send you a free unit - anywhere in the world - once you have created and posted a good app to our forums. See the Announcements within dev.wimm.com

Ted Ladd

WIMM Labs
[General Accessories] tedladd:
Many of us at WIMM Labs have created our own straps. Because the module pops out of the strap, you can place it into whatever attachment you like. I use a wide leather strap (pict attached). Other says that its ugly, but Beauty is in the eye...

Ted Ladd

WIMM Labs
[General Accessories] stelph:
Hi Ted. You are correct I'm from the UK (didn't realise brilliant wasn't used in America, but there you go :-) ) ah that's. Shame that you're not shipping to Europe yet but it's still I retesting to see how this device develops and have a go at the competition!
[General Accessories] onerider:
WIMM and Spotify combo...

...Would be awesome.
[General Accessories] wiaza100:
WIMM 1.0.2 Module Software Released

System Improvements:

Improved Wi-Fi and Sync connection reliability

Fixed issues with Wi-Fi APs displaying multiple times in the Settings App when a new AP is added

Improved the reconnect logic when a connection is lost for Bluetooth between the Module and an iPhone or other phone using HFP

Improved reliability of Bluetooth connections with Android phones

Resolved issues where the watch face would stop updating the time

Improved reliability of switching from standby mode to active mode when the module is placed on the charger with low battery

Improved scrolling in the launcher and applications to look and feel smoother

Fixed a bug where the watch face would not fully come down before entering standby mode

Various stability improvements
[General Accessories] jerrygooch:
Anyone want to give their opinion of the I'm watch? The WIMM One is currently the most tempting! Being a developer release I'm still a bit iffy though. (I'm very tempted to buy one or the other this weekend) Sadly I've yet to see a side by side comparison which would make this decision much easier!
[General Accessories] Uncle Louie:
I've been watching out for a side-by-side too, but so far no luck; so far, I haven't even found anyone who actually HAS and I'm Watch yet.

Amazon has the WIMM One for $199 with free shipping; I think that I'm gonna pull the trigger on that one.
[General Accessories] gazly:
I'm watch

Hi,

For information, they only send the I'm watch in February. I ordered one on the 29th October and I'm waiting for it.... I looked everywhere the video about the WIMM watch. It seems to be more efficient, more complete. I think I'm going to buy one also to make comparison between both.
[General Accessories] schriss:
Anybody got any news about I'm Watch? It's February already.

What about the apps? Anything in the Market already or nothing yet?
[General Accessories] dgates71:
Can you control music on iPhone?

What functions currently does the WIMM Smartwatch have when paired with a iPhone?
[General Accessories] Kapcap99:
does any one know if you can use multiple phones

So i have been looking everywhere to find out if you can hook up 2 diferent android devices to the Wimm Module at the same time.

Does any one happen to know?

thanks

K
[General Accessories] hotphil:
Not seen any movement on the app front.

There's a newer model with increased RAM and magnetometer and accelerometer. But as they've not started shipping the original version, who knows when the new one might be available.

A lot of customers have lost patience and the continual delays and missed shipping dates and there's some suggestion the company may just be scamming people. I'm not sure that's quite fair, I think they're just disorganised rather than criminal.

Their website now has a section for some connected home devices they're developing. I reckon their priority should be elsewhere - shipping the orders they've had for a year or so would be a start.
[General Accessories] ForgetfulFellow:
WIMM apps most used

Hey guys, I read a lot of reviews of the Wimm one and I was wondering:

What apps do you guys use the most on the Wimm one?

They said that the Wimm One doesn't have any notifications beyond texts and calls, is that true?
[General Accessories] duglas:
I ordered one over the weekend and it is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow!!! Cannot wait to check it out!!
[General Accessories] duglas:
I got mine yesterday and love it so far, it paired with my Galaxy S2 with no issues and my bluetooth headset and car kit works as they should.

but it has only been 1 day and the battery died at 4pm today which sucked, but i did mess with it all day.
[General Accessories] WIMM Guy:
Comments from WIMM

First, thanks all for your feedback. Your comments make a difference in what we build. I'd like to respond to a couple of points from damonous and others...

Software Upgrades. We tried to make the SW upgrade process seamless to users, but it sounds like we went too far. Based on this and other feedback, we're changing the system to put up a notification anytime the SW is upgraded. This will take two releases to be seen: one to put in the fix and and then the next release will show the notification.

Bluetooth. I want to correct some misconceptions about how the WIMM works with Android phones. First, however, let me assure everyone that we've done substantial BT testing and problems damonous is seeing are not typical.

If you download the WIMM Companion app found in the Android Market and create the pairing from the Companion, we DO NOT connect as an audio device. We use Serial Port Profile (SPP) and have had no reports of conflicts with other audio devices. However, if you don't have the Companion app, we do connect as a hands free (HFP) device in order to get caller ID. On some phones (not most) this can cause audio conflict issues. Solution: download the WIMM Companion App.

Regarding the WIMM showing as "not connected" in Android settings but "connected" in the WIMM Companion: This is because the Android Settings App on the phone does not recognize the SPP connection as "connected". This is a limitation of the Android Settings App on the phone. The WIMM Companion status is correct.

Finally, two issues raised have never been seen in our testing and might indicate a problem with damonous' phone's Bluetooth (it sounds like he's not running the factory build). Having to re-pair after the phone reboots and causing text messages to be "lost" seem to be unique to his situation. We have not been able to replicate this problem internally with over 20 different Android phones we test with.

Battery Life. Because we can't control the way Amazon manages inventory, some units have been there longer than others. After a month or so in storage, the battery can get so low that it needs a "deep charge" to recalibrate itself. The best thing to do is to leave it on the charger for a day, then take it off the charger and hold the shutdown button for 15 seconds, then restart it (via button or by placing on charger) and it should be in good shape. We are now actively taking steps to ensure future customers do not hit this issue when they receive their units.
[General Accessories] damonous:
For clarity: I am running what I believe to be a legitimate LG firmware, just the euro version of Android 2.3.5, installed on the ATT LG Thrill model P925 instead of the Euro P920 (as probably many owners here on Xda have done). Software version "LGP920-V21a-NOV-15-2011", bld #GRJ90, Baseband version "L6260_MODEM_SIC_01.1042.00", Kernel version #2.6.35.7+. Since we all might be old & gray before ATT graces the US with an ATT-infested version, I don't think this is a major hack of any sort.

My other bluetooth devices don't do what I had seen with the Wimm. I even left out mention in my original post that on more than one occasion I had the bluetooth panel freeze-up due to the Wimm pairing, resulting in a need to reboot.

But, ok....I understand: I'm a one-of-a-kind fluke. Maybe the wind wasn't blowing right and I didn't pair in the correct order in conjunction with your Wimm app. Although I'm pretty sure at least my first connect attempt was in the right order, since there was a card inside the box warning to install the Companion first. (Also, since I fully intended to replace my SE watch, I had removed the pairing before even starting with the Wimm.)

In the end, it comes down to this: Moneytoo and his amazing SmartWatchM app handles so much more so much more elegantly (including auto-retarting the app at boot, unlike the Companion)... it makes no sense why everyone reinvents the wheel and not throw a few bucks his way for help. Maybe then companies like Wimm and MetaWatch wouldn't need to release "Developer version" kits, and just put out a unit that's been fully tested.

And that's what everyone here needs to consider:

They can believe me, or they can believe Wimm. It won't change my life, either way. But, the real question is: Why are potential customers being used as Alpha/Beta Testers (at our own expense)?

It makes me even more impressed (and angered) at what Sony Ericsson & Fossil achieved 3-4 years ago (and then Moneytoo improved upon with software). Impressed that the watches 'just work' (while having a 'plan B' mode for low battery situations). Angered that they couldn't have just continued producing the watches, but replace the crap OLED with LCD.

I will give this for the Wimm: the dual-mode LCD and size was nice. The general interface swiping was well-thought and implemented. Kudos to those who have phones that work with it flawlessly.
[General Accessories] hotphil:
For those keen to get their hands on an I'm Watch, there's still no word of a shipping date from the manufacturer (it continues to be "soon"). But they have started "finalizing" orders (quite what that means is unclear, but I'm not reading too much into it given the repeated delays).

That said, Expansys would seem to think they're getting stock of the 64MB first production run models on 14 April with the 128MB ones to follow. (I'd post a link, but although having been here for years I've not posted enough to be deemed worthy of such a privilege - just search the expansys.co.uk site for "I'm Watch"). Which looks hopeful.
[General Accessories] CubeCloudOS:
I got mine!!!

I got my I'm Watch!!! (In the US)

Haven't unboxed it... I'm also searching online for a rumored froyo hack...

I think I made a mistake though... Some guy put a custom launcher on a Motorola Actv Smartwatch, he can watch Youtube, Play games, Browse the real android market, and look at everything from his wrist (I mean EVERYTHING... think:internet,maps,videos)

"http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AiAAlmyHa1Q"
[General Accessories] Bushrod:
Where did you order from? How about you open it and give us a user-centric review?
[General Accessories] DavidSynergy:
I am really interested to know how you might like the I'm watch. I've been looking to buy for a while now and would like to know your opinion
[General Accessories] RobyRc:
Nice :D

I think motorola is my next achiziton ..
[General Accessories] dmwagner:
So....

is the WiMM stable enough to use for every day use? I desperately need something to replace my Sony MBW 150 for caller ID.

I picked up the Sony LiveView last summer and it totally sucked in regards to the BT losing connection and being a real pain in the ass to reconnect. I just don't want a repeat of that with the WiMM.
[General Accessories] madmax916sps:
Hi

Yeah it's stable enough. But if you only want to see caller id, pls update the liveview to the last firmware version. Since that the Bluetooth connection ist very good.

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[General Accessories] dmwagner:
What version is that... I am at the latest already.

I will go look into that.

EDIT, already at the latest firmware version on my LiveView
[General Accessories] hotphil:
Really? The 64MB? Have they actually started shipping?
[General Accessories] Evileddie:
I'm Watch deliveries commencing...

On the 15th April onwards.

I'm Watch have just put on their Facebook page that deliveries commence on 15th April worldwide.

Having seen a few videos of this i'm watch i'm not convinced it is any good, I mean it looks very sluggish, battery life is Abysmal at best and the cost of it is just ridiculous! Just saying....

---------- Post added at 06:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:11 PM ----------

BS surely?
[General Accessories] hotphil:
They say they've been doing a lot if development on it. Will wait and see how it performs. Their customers are certainly used to waiting! And the orders aren't even going to be shipped in the sequence they were placed.
[General Accessories] Evileddie:
Yer I know but from what I have seen it looks very sluggish and in a time of quad core phones and things zipping a long even a split second wait could infuriate the calmest of us :)
[General Accessories] wawa22:
this is great :)
[General Accessories] ffarber:
My WIMM just got delivered yesterday and so far so good(especially when compared to the Sony SmartWatch which was a disaster as far as staying connected to my phone). I am seeing higher than expected battery use so I will try this tip from earlier in the thread to see if I can get better battery life and report back.

Just for completeness sake, I am using a Galaxy Tab as my phone with the latest CM-9 nightly and having no trouble staying connected to the WIMM. It is great not to dig out the tablet just to check to see if I got a text or a missed a phone call. Also, having the weather and my calendar on my wrist is a great plus.

I am trying to use Remoter (a micro-app available on the WIMM store) to control a few things on the phone (stopping and starting media playback for instance) and when it works it is great. Even though the phone is connected to the watch, sometimes remoter does not connect. I am off to their web site to see if I can figure that out.

Fred
[General Accessories] hotphil:
As it turned out, yes.

They wrote and "confirmed" delivery dates with many customers. Then, guess what, total silence from them. The delivery dates came and went, no deliveries happened and the company won't respond to contact requests.

Avoid, unless you've got a couple of hundred bucks to burn.
[General Accessories] SayWhat10:
What are "delivery dates" ?

Like is that different from actual shipping with a tracking number?
[General Accessories] hotphil:
They seem to interchange the terms "shipping" and "delivery". Whichever they want to call it, nothing happened.

They wrote to many customers and confirmed exact "shipping" dates (which I guess means "despatch"). No tracking numbers ever arrived and neither did any products.
[General Accessories] Ishman:
Looks like someone got one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQG3q-BSdIE&feature=plcp

They have some other links overviewing the watch, but I don't understand it.
[General Accessories] SayWhat10:
Looks nice from what little was shown

They do use DHL to ship too

Good sign, i'm tempted to order tonight!
[General Accessories] P4d0uch:
And what about Meta Watch. I want some watch but i will buy nokia N9 soon. Does the WIMM support Meego?
[General Accessories] hotphil:
It's not a finished production model - no one's got them as they've not been shipped.

SayWhat10 - if you order(ed), be careful.... every date they've given has been missed and there's no evidence anything other than a few prototypes exist. And the company now doesn't respond to any contact.
[General Accessories] SayWhat10:
So new release date is July......
[General Accessories] 1SiK1500:
I thinking about ordering a Wimm One Watch but if the Im one is only a month away. I think i could wait... I would really like to have the lastest and greatest... Even though thats hard with our Technology trend..
[General Accessories] Uncle Louie:
I've had the WIMM One since February, and really enjoy it.

I haven't had any issues with it loosing a bluetooth connection with my Samsung Epic Touch, using both the stock and custom ROMs (including ICS ones).

Battery life has been very good IMO, but keep in mind that you WILL need to charge it at the end of the day. On a typical day, I will take it off the charger at around 4am, and by midnight that evening it will still have two to three bars (out of ten) left. It did take a few charging cycles to get to this point, but even after the first charge I never had a problem getting through a day.

Apps are kind of sparse at the moment; the calculator (which I use more often that I had expected) and Game Boy Color app (which is quite fun, but a battery hog), and a neat little Evernote app being my most used. I'm sure that this will change over time.

The transflective (sp?) screen is very easy to read, even in direct sunlight.

But being able to read incoming text messages and the caller ID feature are still my biggest draws to this device.

The watchband, while functional, shows every speck of dust and dry skin. Drove me nuts. Fortunately it's easy enough to change. The band I replaced it with is a bit smaller (30mm vs the 32mm that it came with), but still works and looks good.

VERY happy with it! :D
[General Accessories] :
I ordered an I'm Watch on 16 April 2012, and was promised delivery by June.

This has since been updated to September and they have given me a 15% refund for the hassle...
[General Accessories] Uncle Louie:
I hope it works out for you; but that's the fifth or sixth time that they've changed their shipping date without a solid reason why. I lost faith in the company quite a while ago. Having said that, if they can actually ship it, it looks like a kick-ass device.

One of the other reasons that I went with the WIMM was the fact that I needed a watchface that was always on.

Hey, has anyone looked at the Pebble? I was able to get in on their Kickstarter; an E-Inc display sounds very interesting!
[General Accessories] SayWhat10:
I just can't get with the black n white pebble. I like the full color watches
[General Accessories] giangishanghai:
Wimm One 300 root

hi all,

just got my Wimm yesterday and i have to admit it's a very nice toy.

i've already changed the watchstrap and now it looks better.

i saw on youtube Wimm running Cut the Rope and AngryBirds, but i cant find the way to get root permission.

the guy on the net is working on ubuntu platform, i have Windows 7 and i cant follow all the lines step by step....

anyone can help on this.

thanks a lot

cheers
[General Accessories] SayWhat10:
We'll know more once the I'm watch actually releases
[General Accessories] giangishanghai:
hi all,

just to keep this topic alive, or let's say.....interesting....

in order to run almost all APKs on WIMM device, you dont need to be rooted.

it is just a question of the right ADB commands,

thanks to some smart brain on WIMM original forum, i got a lot of apk running on my WIMM.

AngryBirds, Cut the Rope, Flight Track, Currency converter, Fling and so on.......

it is easy to understand that if we can get WIMM rooted it will be more easy to make things, but for the moment, it's great stuff to have this device.

maybe it is better to start a new thread about WIMM moddig, but i like to share my experience here anyway

cheers
[General Accessories] hoegaarden1917:
How to get root on WiMM

I got it.
[General Accessories] giangishanghai:
perfect man.

maybe we can share our experience and wich apps are working well on WIMM.

cheers
[General Accessories] MaximisT:
Wimm one best.....

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[General Accessories] corelle:
I like it but it really doesnt do anything to me yet it sucks that we cant hear anything somebody needs to mod the speaker for sound It does churp so that means it has some sound...when I had the iphone 4s it was only in coming call now i have a SGS3 it doesnt even work well with ICS when I used my EVO it worked but its just developing slow I would love to answer calls from why wrist and able to see facebook or twitter like IMWATCH! This thing has all this power and nothing to go with it..
[General Accessories] halljo:
THANKS FOR YOUR POST.

PLEASE do it, creat a Thread about moding wimm one ;)

Let us now the link ;) i will buy one but in germany the wimm one isn't avaible :( :(
[General Accessories] corelle:
SO ok i have a wimm one for sale i just actually played with the motorola one and u can answer calls and everything and it was rooted to run OS system on it...so basically its betwen a im watch and a wimm one im sold!! puttinh wimm on ebay right now!! UNLESS U WANT IT! ONLY HAD IT FOR A MONTH!