yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC EVO 3D] ekz13:
+1 agree... those were some messed up days in the shift forum, don't look forward to going back to them again..

I'm glad he's working a root, however, not at the expense of sanity. I'm not looking to go back to the way things went down with the shift kit downgrade/charging drama

don't care what side, who was right or wrong, etc, but it was nasty business and we don't need it here again. If you weren't there to get the full experience, then you couldn't imagine how close it came to tearing the forum asunder.
[HTC EVO 3D] vcysion:
lmao in all honesty what happens with him charging for something for one phone should not be reasoning to block links to stuff for another phone especially when its free. ALSO, I remember unlocking my HTC Needle pocket pc for free and also then the mda but then those same people started linkin you to their webpage for you to PURCHASE the same inforamtion to unlock for the diamond, tilt, touch pro/fuze, touch pro 2/tilt 2 UNLESS they thought you were "worthy" enough here on xda to give it to you free in a pm lmaooo I swear, xda has been going downhill for a while now ever since it started to get recognition and popluar seems like its turning into lil prissy girls like the kardashians and "**** You" attitude and then the new members dont make it any better wanting everything spoon fed lmao but to censor links to a WIP project because its on the same domain but you allow his contact information displayed?? Kinda dumb**** is that, its either all or nothing, not block only what is convenient for your contradicting needs lmfao

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lmao glad I wasnt the only one to remember those times having to pay to unlock and hard spl those windows phones. Thank you olipro for going the route of charging everyone for what apparently should now be "free" here on xda lmao
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
The download kit is over 700mb. I don't think it needs to be that big. Which makes me wonder what he's putting in that kit. I'm guessing a 2.3 rom, and a 2.2 rom, and ??? His site mentions bandwidth limits forced him to charge for it (5 people downloading that file equals 3.5 GB of bandwidth). But because of his attitude on his site, and twitter account, I can see where he can easily rub people the wrong way. Not defending him, as I am not really concerned why he was banned, nor does it effect my daily life.

I do look forward to a full S-OFF solution for the 1.5 hboot. From anyone. I don't want to go with HTC's method, but will if I have to.

Edit: I also don't think $10 is a little steep. If this were me, and I needed to make some coin to offset bandwidth costs, I'd charge maybe $2. It would net me some $, and would turn away casual downloaders, who would probably never use the software anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] Mastajeff:
No one cares about GSM so GTFO
[HTC EVO 3D] faiyo:
I dont like that multi-millionaires are trying to crush this little nerd at home over $10 software.

Xda is easily worth 50 million because they force people to register for free software. Some people prefer to pay $10 for the little nerd's work. Yes, he did work too, to package it and make it available.

I don't know what happened but i will remind everyone that charging money is accepted in free open source software. The most popular open licences allow it because people who manage to make money probably offer something extra (like customer support). Or, because of the revenue, they will be able return a contribution. They will definitely make the community stronger anyway. Can anyone point out a single negative thing about what he does?

If his attitude is not good then let's be intelligent consumers. Let us decide for ourselves and work to offer something better so that the problem is really solved. Xda back-stabbed the people who made them rich.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jakedude2011:
Really mature stuff going on here. Geezzzzz.... :rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] 3vo kid:
i dont know what went down with the whole evo shift thing but all i know is if he decides to charge for s-off for the 3d then thats his business. those who want it badly enough will pay for it. not picking sides but everyone is sooo eager to shell out the cash for accessories and memory cards for their phone but apparently $10 to root your device is too expensive for you.... quit being cheap :rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
well well well, we find ourselves in a predicament here dont we. first off how about we all quit complaining about how much XDA sucks and that MODS are oppressive. really?? yes we want to censor you, that is our goal here, we want to sit and go through every post on here just to censor you, we have a hard enough time babysitting, let alone censoring everything. i have been involved with this whole Evil vs the_scotsman thing for a while now, and frankly i am getting sick of it. i am cool with both people, i know them both independently and i have no reason to have beef with either person. yes they dont like each other, its true, and they both have their reasons. i am not taking sides in their skirmish, i have read all the information about the ban and what not. i talk to both people daily. Evil knows that we cant link his site directly, i have talked to him about it. we let you keep his twitter information, and you want to complain about that. Evil is doing some good things currently trying to help you guys and the guys of the rezound to achieve s-off, and for that everyone should be grateful. Evil has no beef with XDA, he doesnt like the_Scotsman, and he is allowed to not like him, we dont all have to like each other.

as far as XDA sucking anymore and taking a downward spiral.. you know why it sucks, because everyone says you know XDA sucks.. if you want it to be better make it better.. this is a community, which means we are all responsible for making it a better place.. so if it sucks, that means you suck if you are doing your part. check my post history, i do what i can to try and this community out. if you cant say the same thing, then quit complaining.

/end rant

come on people, i am not a douche here. we have rules that as mods we have to abide by, if you dont like how we do things, take it to the admin. any more discussion about the dev in question and his relationship with the mod in question will lead to infractions, thank you.
[HTC EVO 3D] blauciel:
You don't need a twitter account. Just go to the web link I posted and it shows all of his tweets.

I can't believe we're being threatened with infractions for discussing this.

//Tapatalk.KindleFire//
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
You are being threatened with infractions for discussing the mod and the dev and who is wrong. Talk all you want about s-off development.

Edit: your post was fine before your edit. Discussion about the dev vs the mod only lead to flaming. I have been down this road before in another forum.
[HTC EVO 3D] Twolazyg:
So, linking to a website that doesn't accept donations is the same as linking to a website that charges people for freely obtainable work on xda. I'm not interested in starting **** with you, I'm just pointing out the fact that you removed a link to another forum that happens to me run by the guy that charged people for the shift kit. I think you're getting the rules mixed up.

Anyway, No, the tool that was linked to the think tank forum was just a build.prop renamed to SMART_IO.CRD. All it does is make the terminal hang for a while, then stop working requiring a battery pull.

If you're interested in helping or checking the progress, look in my signature for a link to my twitter that has a link to his forum.

Does that break the rules?
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
As he said its all part of the same domain. If Evil had it on another domain name all together linking to it would be fine. anything with evildevnull.com in the name is not allowed b/c there are links there that ask for $ when the same stuff can be found free here.

now he opens up say s-offthinktank.com and puts his little forum there then you can link to it all you want long as the site doesn't link back to the $10 product he charges on his original one.
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
Man, a bunch of people up in here need to take their Cryopectate:
[HTC EVO 3D] blauciel:
lol, that's a keeper

@ Psteve: understood, thanks for the clarification. I'm fairly new here, and don't want to cross the line. As a forum admin myself, I value the need for people to share info. Maybe next time instead of killing the link, add a warning about the risks of following the link?

//Tapatalk.KindleFire//
[HTC EVO 3D] 6666:
http://trinitysoundsystem.com/links.html
[HTC EVO 3D] babyschmoof:
Man, everyone take a breath. Evil doesn't have a working solution yet, so why bother getting stressed out!

If you don't like a policy, simply walk away instead of getting your panties in a twist.

Remember the real jerks are HTC.

You'll shoot your eye out (in 3D)
[HTC EVO 3D] SkuzFoz:
It's not available here because moderator egos won't allow it. See how that works? YOU are being the bad guy here.

I'm a moderator for a major studio within Electronic Arts, and I'd be fired as **** if I treated my community in such a way.
[HTC EVO 3D] blingdogg:
Couldn't have said it better myself, Personally I would look at it like $30 x12 months or $10 xForever
[HTC EVO 3D] crump84:
I think you both are completely missing the point. If he wants to charge for s-off, that's his prerogative, but that has nothing to do with why the links were taken down.. it was taken down because it has the same domain name as the toolkit he charges for, which can all be obtained for free here on XDA. He didn't find the exploits, just charges for it.

lol.. this makes absolutely no sense at all.. why would I pay $10 for root, when I can do it for free... donation links are a great thing.
[HTC EVO 3D] 3vo kid:
it makes all the sense in the world, if something means that much to u then it clearly holds value with that being said some ppl are willing to pay for it... and ur so quick to say that u can do it for free then why have u not done it yet?
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
HTC method is free..... FTL
[HTC EVO 3D] crump84:
Why have I not done what yet? Root my Shift? It's been rooted for a good while dude .. there are a plethora of methods to achieve full root. The reason the site was pulled has nothing to do with E3D.. do a little reading
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
The point is there is no s-off method for the 3d hboot 1.5. The issue that has been shown with payment is for the shift, not the 3d.
[HTC EVO 3D] rafa0794:
Still doesn't work for me

Still not working for me :( hope something useful comes out soon.
[HTC EVO 3D] 3vo kid:
im not talking about the shift, im talking about root for the 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] crump84:
Lol.. like I said.. do a little reading, your missing the whole point.

*Goes back to the Shift forum.
[HTC EVO 3D] 3vo kid:
do a little reading? missing the point? my original post was in regards to devnull finding a root solution for hboot 1.5 and if he decided to charge for that then thats his business... perhaps you should have read my post better?
[HTC EVO 3D] crump84:
We're obviously looking through 2 different pair of glasses. Yours are 3D.. mine are not :D. No need for a battle royal on the forums
[HTC EVO 3D] 3vo kid:
hahahaha yes there clearly seems to be some sort of misunderstanding between the both of us
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Sorry to say it but I don't think the smart card idea is going to pan out. It has already been thoroughly looked into since the day the phone came out, and without help from HTC there are other places that are better to look.

Everything I've seen that is being tried now was already tried long ago...

[S-OFF] Got Root!
[HTC EVO 3D] the_scotsman:
This is a development thread...so how about its kept that way.

As I've already stated, the removal of his website is nothing to with any personal reason...if you still think I'm in the wrong, go cry to the admins. Stop posting crap in the thread.

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710a using Forum Runner
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Nice you say exactly what i said few days ago and you get thanked. lol jkjk

like i said before hes gonna have to go a completely different route and really would benefit if he took the time to read the threads here that discussed all this in the beg. I mean we had Sensation & Evo3D devs on this and couldn't get the smart card idea to pan out. hell even had phones that were already s-off on both sides and couldn't do it. not to mention this was all b4 the new hboot even.

Hes gonna have to go a completely new route to get it done or will need a gift from htc.
[HTC EVO 3D] ninten5:
Where can I find out about this hboot unlock from this devnull guy? I don't have twitter:(
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Google his name... you don't need twitter to see his feed... btw nothing has been said or done in a few weeks now..

sent from a epic touch 4g using xda app
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
I checked evil devnull's twitter page, it said his tweets are protected. "Only confirmed followers have access to [his] tweets and complete profile. you need to send a request before you can start following this account."

So, if you don't have a twitter account, you can't see his tweets.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Must have changed it cuz a few weeks ago I could read his tweets.. try his website or just register for a twitter and start following all your favorite developers!

sent from a epic touch 4g using xda app
[HTC EVO 3D] dblkspecial:
I just saw the title and kinda got my hopes up lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Twolazyg:
I really hope nobody from XDA has donated a penny to this guy. His claims of having found 3 possible exploits are false. He claimed to have all his information stored on a *single* site, which was hacked by some guys in the UK, and the files got corrupted and he lost all his work. Either he is the stupidest developer ever, or he's lying. Nobody in the history of development keeps their works in progress in a single location for somebody to steal. Think about it. Why do you think he's blocked his twitter and closed registration to his "thinktank"? People are catching on to him and he's scared of being called out. Don't count on this guy to crack the 1.5 hboot.
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Yup, EDN's totally full of ****. I cut out on modding his forum when I discovered that every member of his "team" was posting from the same IP address to include entire "conversations" with himself in addition all his racism... unacceptable

And when I challenged him to prove he was a Marine, he claimed his DD214 was classified. It's not ever a classified document, it simply details a person's release from military active duty status, here my DD214.

He a liar, and he's scamming people out of money, he got me too :mad:

Edit: I just realized the way I linked that DD214 pic could be a little ambiguous.
[HTC EVO 3D] dblkspecial:
That guy is full of ****. I'm a marine and that's def not a classified document. I hate ppl like that. Claim they're something that they wish they could be.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Lmao classified that's funny as I'm ex navy n had a topsecret clearance haha
[HTC EVO 3D] Febby:
I was trying to warn people lol! when he posted that 1.5 hboot with the s-off and locked status message.... simply have a 1.3/1.4 HBOOT and update it to 1.5, it will show s-off with **LOCKED**... I bet he asked for test devices rather than a paypal bounty because there is no proof or claim to be may for those who send him devices.

I give him the fact that he pulled a grade A+ scam/con on those users (that I pray) didn't send him a device.
[HTC EVO 3D] armonwilson888:
Is there anyone else attempting the hboot 1.5 crack?
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
There is a thread in the general section, about attempting to downgrade hboot, via a similar method to how GB was rooted on the Evo Shift 4G. It would require at least finding a temp root method, and then tricking the hboot in to accepting a lower hboot version, which could then be rooted/s-off'd via revolutionary. But, I don't think there is much dev time being put to this, as the thread died nearly 3 months ago, and people can still root with the htc method, and flash kernels and all other goodies via Flash Image GUI.
[HTC EVO 3D] armonwilson888:
Would it be possible to use HTC unlock for root access then downgrade? That would solve the problem of temp root, but would still blacklist the warranty.
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
I saw a thread where the GSM guys were trying just that. Let me see if I can find it. I'll update this post if I find the thread. I don't know how much the hboots differ between the GSM and the CDMA variants, but I'm guessing the theory behind both is sound...

Found it. It's in the GSM Development section. You use the HTC Unlock method, and go from there.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1372913
[HTC EVO 3D] armonwilson888:
Messing around in the hex editor for hboot partition could be a dangerous thing..... I don't know enough about hex editing to even attempt it.
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
Yes, I agree. But, on a positive note, no reports of bricks in that thread. It either works, or it doesn't. But there was a message that it only works on the unlocked version. Not the carrier branded versions.
[HTC EVO 3D] armonwilson888:
Different hex line to edit maybe? I wonder what is different between their HTC unlockable hboot and ours.
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
I wouldn't have the first idea on where to check the hboot differences. That's a completely different world than what I'm used to.
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
We have actually have temp root for HBOOT 1.50 fre3vo still works, as does zergrush.
[HTC EVO 3D] rudygetz:
Go on...

I just want to use the tether without getting charged.
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
And the you use eugene323's vendor/bin trick for binaries and su. Ill be back at my computer later, I'll post a more complete write up if you haven't found it.
[HTC EVO 3D] migpol08:
Does anyone know how we can compare the hboots or their respective files?
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
You can pull the files from the temp folder of an RUU while it's running. But understanding what you're looking in an hboot.nb0 file is an entirely different matter.
[HTC EVO 3D] migpol08:
The temp folder in windows?
[HTC EVO 3D] ninten5:
So where is the evil dev_null website or any info on the 1.5 root?
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
I know this thread is based on evil's work, but where is the revolutionary team is in all this? Will they be updating their tool, or is what's available the last update that will ever occur?
[HTC EVO 3D] Febby:
In my opinion I don't think they are in a rush since android ice cream sandwich update coming out, chances are HTC will update the hboot. I assume revolutionary found an exploit but will wait till the new hboot comes to surface and they can use that exploit to unlock 1.5 devices and 1.6 etc... :-)
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Yes, it will be in the hidden appdata folder in your user folder for example C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Temp

The RUU creates two temp folders, just look in the two folders that opened at the same time as you started the RUU, inside find rom.zip
[HTC EVO 3D] szayell22:
closed....
[HTC EVO 3D] ninten5:
So its 2012...are we gonna get a root for hboot 1.5 before the world ends:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] Threevo:
LULZ.. Probably not :((
[HTC EVO 3D] snxxxxx:
Im rooted since 2011, but not s-off.. no problems so far im still can play with kernel..
[HTC EVO 3D] E.T.Heil:
Please review the first couple of pages of this thread. You will notice that the information in the OP has been removed due to the user being banned from XDA :D

And as for hboot 1.5 root, I have been happily flashing custom ROM's & kernels with hboot 1.5 for months now even with the HTC unlock.
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
LOL my guess there will be root on the new hboot 1.5 without going HTC route on things. In due time :D
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Is anyone even working on it anymore?
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Im sure some folks are due to the bounty that is floating around.
[HTC EVO 3D] amryan:
So on hboot 1.5, sft ver 2.08.651.3 and want to use titanium backup to make sure my app data is captured before the HTC unlock (fr3vo doesnt work)... however no temp root to use tb? Any ideas on how to backup app data prior to htc unlock?
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
As far as I know there isn't a way. Does the temp root from before still temp root on 1.5?

Sent from my ICS lovin 3D!!!

If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
[HTC EVO 3D] LiquidSolstice:
For what it's worth, I took a good honest and unbiased look at the guy's site. Anyone who's holding that much of a grudge against a couple of sites for being banned from them and has to have a rather large and confusing page to explain why he expects people to pay him $10 to download a 700 meg zip to pay for their bandwidth costs triggers a red flag for me.

Although I don't know exactly what happened and can't say I'm interested to find out, the sheer rage contained within his "eff the mods" page is enough for me to turn my nose at such distasteful immaturity. Whatever happened to doing this all for the fun of it? :(

Just further sad evidence that what once used to be the geek's ultimate hobby is now turning into a service with expectations :(.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
I agree liquid
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Yes, zergRush works. First download the zergRush binary and extract zergRush to the folder containing adb.exe (../android-sdk/platform-tools).

Open a command prompt where you extracted everything.

adb push zergRush /data/local/zergRush
adb shell chmod 755 /data/local/zergRush
adb shell /data/local/zergRush

You now have adb in root mode.

From here you can run any of the Fre3vo perma-temp-root methods you like, you'll probably get error messages, and it isn't exactly stable, but it works well enough to back up using Titanium Backup.
[HTC EVO 3D] LostRib:
Is there a more thorough guide for this?

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
...what exactly are you having trouble with?
[HTC EVO 3D] LostRib:
any place to learn to use adb, also which Frevo temp root methods
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Oh... sorry, but when I responded to amryan I was expecting a certain amount of proficiency. I would just search google for Android SDK and adb and fastboot.exe Learn everything you can, sorry, but I learned by breaking my first phone several times, I don't really know where to find a good guide, but I'm sure they are out there. Once you've got adb its run entirely though command prompt, if you open a command prompt in the SDK/platform-tools folder and type

adb /?

that's a decent start.

As far as which Fre3vo method, it doesn't really matter, all the ones out there I found where just batch scripts for running Fre3vo (obsolete) and pushing the SuperUser files. I suppose it could be done without a Fre3vo batch, I just figured if amryan already had it that would be easier since all that was wanted was to use TB. I think once zergRush has been run you can copy files to /system even though they won't stick after a reboot. I'm troubleshooting my phone right now and am going to return to full stock, I'll check if the SU files can just be pushed for TB to work. Starting with Eugene373's perma-temp-root method all the Fre3vo batches got really complicated, I don't know if they need to be for TB though.

Edit: didn't need to return to stock, so disregard that bit
[HTC EVO 3D] megabiteg:
Just use flash image gui until something comes around. You don't need to stress.

Example: look what happened with the iPhone users and the untethered jb of iOS 5. It took some time but eventually they got there.

I believe that we just need to stop being impatient and enjoy the time to learn more about how to use fastboot, adb and more android phone and sdk tools.