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[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
HAHA, you are kidding right? The first rdf for Gingerbread came out in April, 7 months later they put out something Sprint agreed on.
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
Getting ready to fork the code for d705?
[Epic 4G General] rygran87:
Removing touchwiz and Sprint I'D would be a great start, but that'll never happen. :-(
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I gotta say that I really like most of the touchwiz mods. The TW task manager, the email app, the calendar are much more useful to me than the stock AOSP apps. I don't use the TW launcher or SprintID but if you don't use them they don't take up much space and don't use resources, so no big deal.

I'm just happy they are still developing for our phones.
[Epic 4G General] schnowdapowda:
I gotta say touchwiz is far more "functional" than aosp. Especially the dialer and the call log.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Some have already been ported to work on CM7 and CM9.
[Epic 4G General] phdeez:
LOL I call my cat "FB" for "Fat Bastard".

Thanks for the laugh on a Monday OP!
[Epic 4G General] zman519:
I like them a lot also. Right & left swiping to call & txt, the screen dimmer swipe. They really should be added or add on ;-) (now ppl don't need to start telling me that cm team will not do it. I Know that) also the camera! The cam on our phone is so good & the cm camera app just kinda sucks compaerd to the one samsung made. Yes the samsuck one has problems like the gps on 2.1 & then the sound on 2.3, but if you over look them two things.

Sent from the Drivers Seat of my Suby txting and Driving doing 100MPH+ in a school zone! Ha.
[Epic 4G General] josidhe:
The fun of using bleeding edge software keeps me with CM9, but it's true: stock Samsung had great touches that blow AOSP out of the water.

I miss the camera app every time I take a picture (it had the BEST panoramic shooting of any app I've ever tried). I miss the swipe to call and even the memo app. But also, I miss the clock.

Even custom TW roms ditched the Samsung clock for some reason I simply couldn't wrap my mind around. It had many of the features of Gentle Alarm, attractively and for free. It was always the first thing I'd install after a wipe. :/
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I'd agree with this as well. TW is better than most give it credit for.
[Epic 4G General] :
TW is cool, I think it has a bad rep because the opinion of some else who dislikes it and influence someone else when they probably didn't even know our phone launcher is Touchwiz.
[Epic 4G General] mark8503:
I agree 100% about the TW camera, it seems like when I'm on CM7 or CM9 the camera sucks
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
I hate the launcher of tw other then that I like the calendar, calculator my files and all the other cool apps it came from, launcher pro for the win!!

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] :
Touchwiz 4.5 launcher is nice especially on CM7 :)
[Epic 4G General] josidhe:
Honestly, I think it has a bad rep for the same reason every vendor-built framework has a bad rep: it's vendor-built. There's a subset of enthusiasts who are so opposed the the very concept of vendor code on principle that they'll hate on anything preinstalled on a device before knowing anything about it.

It's the notion that open-ergo-AOSP is always better than closed-ergo-vendor. That open is always more efficient than proprietary which is always 'bloat'. The 100 functions you'll never use in a custom ROM is always tolerable while that extra app your phone came with is unforgivable.

It's just the culture we're a part of, and it really won't go away any time soon.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I see it as the way my extra software makes my video card work better in the way that sick drivers and software wouldn't be able to.
[Epic 4G General] rocket321:
I hope they fix scrollable wallpapers (twlauncher) and re-enable sticky verticle scrolling (browser). Heck while I'm making a wish list let's throw in adjustable text size (browser -found in Eclair official roms, removed in froyo) and a "gps fix" to boot.

We are literally a few fixes away from having a great "stock" expirence. Only took 18 months lol!
[Epic 4G General] tman165:
Sansung galaxy was killed after 2.3.6 update

after updating my epic 4g phone to version 2.3.6 is now offica a break if there is a way to fix my brick. Please somebody drop me an e-mail that T-man 165@Gmail.com. I would appreciate your help greatly.
[Epic 4G General] :
Describe your "brick". Does your phone still boot? And how did you "brick" your phone?
[Epic 4G General] R3537L1F3:
I guess s Samsung gave rip on whatever they were doing?
[Epic 4G General] rocket321:
Maybe they submitted FB01 to Sprint for testing?
[Epic 4G General] poit:
An rdf file already means it's being tested by Sprint, it's on their website. In the past when there was a few weeks without files appearing that meant a release was near. Of course, since we have a mature product you never know if they were just trying a mod that didn't pan out. Without a leak it's impossible to know.
[Epic 4G General] R3537L1F3:
Love how you called the phone mature XD.

Back in my day sonny phones had physical keyboards. You kids and your keyboardless phones.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
What? The Epic has a keyboard? Are you high?

Sent from CM9 EpicMTD.
[Epic 4G General] R3537L1F3:
Maybe... Only my epic knows
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I meant mature as in product cycle, not the age of the users. ;)
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Android Value pack is coming guys. Be patient ;)
[Epic 4G General] younggangsta_s:
Says who???
[Epic 4G General] :
says the link below someone at ACS got their hands on another build

http://forums.acsyndicate.net/showthread.php?5005-Samsung-Epic-4g-FB15-TAR
[Epic 4G General] Overstew:
Get back in the ET4G forums! These Epic folks don't deserve leaked sextapes!
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Don't come back here with your jealousy too now that our phone has more devs than yours. :-)
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I think that may be for the Touch D710, lets be careful with this one.

There was no FB15 rdf for the D700, but there was for the D710.
[Epic 4G General] Zeinzu:
It's already been confirmed for the D700. It's already been flashed and tested by one of our developers.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Still correct. Epic Touch has another leak that's being played with.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Yup, I downloaded and installed the original FB15 usining Heimdall. Don't know if there are any differences other than the Connections thing.

As far as I know this is the first time a ROM has appeared without an rdf file, so it makes me wonder what has changed in their procedures. Are they using a new release system, or is this an oddball test rom?
[Epic 4G General] kc_exactly:
Hey, I thought I would be a nice guy and give you guys a new rdf.

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D710/FB29.rdf

I know it says d710 but the page says d700 when you look at the link. Plus it says 2.3.6. All our latest rdf pages have said 4.0.3. So, I am not sure what to make of it. Either they made a mistake on the ET4G page or you guys are getting an update and they put it in the wrong spot.

Sent from the phone of the founding member of the Epic Touch "B" team.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Meh... Don't look to hard into it. Sprint makes stupid mistakes on those things all the time.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
2.3.6 is definitely the D700 since we are not getting 4.0.3.
[Epic 4G General] :
Yea' you right. You can see the difference in Rdfs if you compare it to the epic touch's FB15 build.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
Its be a miracle if they would, just remove bloat and some TWizzy stuff and re simplify it
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Yeah, it looks like a D700 rdf file, but why is it in the D710 directory? I'll add it to the list with an asterisk. Thanks for the heads-up
[Epic 4G General] TeamERA:
Sounds like shenanigans, no one would be stupid enough to confuse the 2 phones o_0

Sent from a phone with kNOw CIQ ;) ...
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
No, its definitely a D700 rdf posted in the wrong section.

Keyboard - Qwerty

OSVersion - Android 2.3.6

NavigationKeyPadSupport - Keyboard, Navigation Pad

TotalDeviceMemory - 512MB RAM

But on the other hand, there is some D710 stuff in here too?

TotalDeviceFlash - 1GB ROM

VideoJack - HDMI

DLNACapable - No
[Epic 4G General] TeamERA:
^^^^ exactly my point, shenanigains :)

Sent from a phone with kNOw CIQ ;) ...
[Epic 4G General] snargledorf:
D710 is the epic touch 4g
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
ROM is not RAM
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I just copy and pasted bro lol. I didn't say rom=ram lol.

That rdf is a bad copy/paste attempt. Utterly useless.

I am Z.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
It is for epic touch. I don't think they would screw up that badly
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Well, its screwed up badly. Its like a mishmash of both devices' info.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Isnt there an FL29 modem for the epic 4g touch?

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[Epic 4G General] TeamERA:
FB27 modem Acer, and FB29 was being worked on, but never came out, on to FC02 we go.

Sent from a phone with kNOw CIQ ;) ...
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
Yeah sorry meant FB29. But yeah, I found this out when I saw qbking do the modem comparison with FB27. My bad.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Sprint has posted the FC07.rdf file. Still 2.3.6, they're still working on stuff.

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/FC07.rdf

One thing I've noticed that has appeared starting with FB29 is something called a GLMS Client. :

GLMSClientVendor AcmeVindor1

GLMSProtocolVersion 1.0

GLMSClientVersion 1.1

Earlier rdf files showed this as NA.

Don your tinfoil hats and discuss!

Edit: more research shows this as a Group List Management Server for Sprint Push to talk service. So, is this just a stupid cut and paste error, or are they adding PTT to our phones?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
The new kinder, gentler CIQ.
[Epic 4G General] k0nane:
If it's there, I can kill it.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Don't we know it! U Da Best!
[Epic 4G General] poit:
And what evidence do you have of this? Are you just guessing or is there something to back this up. the only reference I could find to the acronym GLMS was Group List Management Server for Sprint Push to talk service.

I ask because this is how rumors start. People are already quoting this thread as proof that Sprint is working on more spyware.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Yeah, just a guess or speculation. By that I meant a way for them to determine network traffic better which is what CIQ was supposed to do for them but unfortunately had the capability to do way more. By the leak it does not look like they are working on any improvements. I am the last guy to get any inside info from Sprint. I fought with them too many times. LOL.
[Epic 4G General] RayTrue04:
What exactly is wrong with EI22's gps? I just updated a spare epic I have to EI22 and tested the gps alongside my epic with the stockish EH17 from Toadlife with the gps fix. Both epics locked at about the same time with the same accuracy from within my home.. Looked fine to me. Just wondering b4 I odin to EC05 and ota EI22. So far all I see is my EH17 locks in to 9-10 and the EI22 to 3-4 but accuracy was on point..
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
It is not the accuracy, it is the locks count. You can get the same accuracy from 3 satellites as you can from 9 but you cannot go on a long trip through dead zones and maintain lock with only 3 satellites in a good area. Take a 3 hour trip through some unpopulated areas and see how well that 3 satellite lock does.
[Epic 4G General] RayTrue04:
Thank you that's what I needed to know!
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
Stock GPS will crash after 10-15 minutes use.
[Epic 4G General] zman519:
Some thing with the Camera :rolleyes:
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I hope it at least includes TW4 lol
[Epic 4G General] BenBarker:
At all who question why SamSprint is still updating.... . Maybe they actually realized how many epic users there are... And what harm could come from releasing solid code for the phone.... Let the dev's do the vodoo that they do so well.... I choose to think positive... Yeah... I'm a romantic but I can't help myself... ;-)
[Epic 4G General] duce102:
I agree. It would only make sense because I don't see anything left to get "fixed", just some polishing and real updating to do.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Yepp. This TouchWiz 3.2 stinks. Cant even set a 480x800 wallpaper anymore. Even from the browser, it gets cropped

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES phone, running "two.three.five"
[Epic 4G General] Dsparil:
I'm requesting wifi and gps to be fixed. I also want google talk to include video chat.

I fixed these issues thanks to the devs here, but stock people should get a fully functional smart phone too.
[Epic 4G General] quick99si:
The pessimist in me disagrees strongly with the romantic in you ;)

But hey, they have our money, they have absolutely no reason to provide timely support for this device any longer (if you call their actions thus far "timely"), they have a new replacement platform to promote and improve upon, they have somewhat of an issue with Apple, a slew of product offerings, and they've already fulfilled their duties to the Epic4G crowd for at least two quarters. Is that how it works, an update every 6 months from Samsung?

Maybe I'm being too hard on them, as if they owe me something (they really don't), but I'm a strong proponent of the old addage: past actions predict future behaviour. What does that say about Samsung's future?
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
They still sell the phone maybe sales are actually decent I still think its their best mid level phone and not everyone can afford the high end phones. If it still sells why not support it.
[Epic 4G General] SenseiSimple:
i easily and quickly get 5-8 gps locks (4-5 in use accuracy of 3 meters) wherever i go but not stable...though, stable enough that i can map/navigate, and have no wifi issues running my rom...

Now 4G reboots, stock browser reboots (even on true stock rom) and occasional bluetooth not activating, those issues are pervasive everywhere i look - hell the bluetooth issue has been around since froyo with the same exact symptom/log entries, and the 4G sporadically throughout all the leaks. Certainly though, gps as well is not as it should be, or used to be.

For these show stopping issues to be addressed would be nice
[Epic 4G General] R3537L1F3:
I think the sales may be going up. I met 3 people who have just got an epic (for the keyboard), a barbershop of 5 barbers who all have an epic, and my mom wants an epic. It's a great phone, glad to hear Samsung still supporting it. And who knows it may actually get more stuff to make it more epic over the next few months. Woot optimism :D

Sent from my not rooted tree plant 4G
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Yup that's why it was taken off the EOL list

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
It was??? I didn't know that.
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
Last month the EVO 4G was made EOL we were on the list but taken off. And not been put back on since then.

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
Hmmmm that could be good news, although I don't think I see ICS in our future unfortunately.

Which is a shame because I really really believe that our hardware would easily support it.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
i think moving it off the eol list means that this will be the only 5 row qwerty on sprint for a while. it leaves me quite disappoint as it looks like i have no planned upgrade path. ive been through a long line of full keyboard slider phones.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Also this, I'm not too sad though considering I have 2 years left on my contract

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G General] Stringyquark:
One of the many reasons we love you! This could lead to a new banner for you.

That's going into my quotable quotes. If it's there, I can kill it.

Might just change can kill to WILL kill.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
And we will call him The Terminator!
[Epic 4G General] poit:
And now it's FC09.rdf

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/FC09.rdf
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
News flash, ics isn't coming lol.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Herpa derp.

;)

I am Z.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Of course not, but they are working on something.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Value pack
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
If it is a value pack like it is taking them this long to do a theme. Whata waste of time and money. I am more than happy with just gb on this phone. Honestly I don't think I'm all that excited about ics. I love the themes but the changes to all the menus and layout I'm not crazy about.
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
its more like a revised problems that it contains consistently and probably some ics transitions from GB if a value pack, it takes this long because the priority for it is very low.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
If the FB 15 leak is any indication then it's not value pack. The only noticeable difference was the connection optimizer, and that was only useful if you use 4G alot.

It could still be mostly bug fixes.
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
Yeah it'd be nice if they'd put work into a value pack, but with Sprint's track record It's very likely that what we'll see is a bug fixed final version of Gingerbread. It'll still get sales that way most definitely. As long as their stock is stable.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
News flash. Value pack ain't comin.lol.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Sprints track record? I guess you haven't seen the other carriers recently. Captivate just got gingerbread for the first time like 2 months ago
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
Lol yes, Sprint's track record. I didn't infer that Sprint was worse than other carriers nor better, you chose to perceive it as that. I spoke in specifics as I am on Sprint, not T-Mobile, Verizon or AT&T.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Sprint is the best at getting updates next to tmobile. There i said it.
[Epic 4G General] sneezy316:
Someone say "value pack"?

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/03/13/value-pack-for-the-next-models/

Galaxy S value pack rumors?

The post did say that the "value packs" were based on 2.3.6... like FC09.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Wasn't that trashed? Time to read.

Sent from my modded Epic 1x that I cannot love more.. Thank you EpicCM team, bbelos, and zeppelinrox.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Samsung will update the next models with a special ”value pack” update.

- Samsung I9000 Galaxy S.

- Samsung I9001 Galaxy S Plus.

- Samsung I9003 Galaxy SL.

- Samsung I8150 Galaxy W.

- Samsung P1000 Galaxy Tab.

No mention of Epic, 4g, or D700

I am Z.
[Epic 4G General] sneezy316:
No they didn't. I'm just trying to connect the north and south poles with a yard-stick. LOL

But we all thought they had stopped the value pack idea, also.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
But they also say:

"If you are a Galaxy S owner you can test the Samsung ”value pack” via firmware: I9000XXJVU."

That means they have a value pack test rom for the I9000 Galaxy S on their site. Wonder what could be extracted from it that we could use?;)
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
They also didn't say the Epic touch was getting ics. But here is am with an unofficial leak
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
E4GT falls into the 18 month policy. We didn't.

Next!

I am Z.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
What? That isn't relevant lol
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
How isn't it relevant? E4GT was all but guaranteed an update to ICS.

I am Z.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Value pack isn't ics
[Epic 4G General] poit:
FC14.rdf posted this morning. Still 2.3.6

It also still includes this passage, first introduced a few rdfs back:

GLMSClientVendor AcmeVindor1

GLMSProtocolVersion 1.0

GLMSClientVersion 1.1

When I google GLMS and Sprint the only phone related hits I get include the phrase: Group/List Manager Server (GLMS) where it relates to pust to talk services like Qchat.

Of course it could also be the Great Lakes Myth Society ;)
[Epic 4G General] samsungd700:
I thought they canned the value pack. I think it should be optional download without touchwiz.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Value pack isn't a theme persay. It's features of over cream sandwich brought to gingerbread because there isn't enough rom for full ics and touchwiz
[Epic 4G General] samsungd700:
Then strip out,touchwiz
[Epic 4G General] XxLostSoulxX:
That's like saying strip all samsung parts out of samsung tv and replace it with sony products??? Your defeating the whole purpose of the product haha. To us its nice if they did, but to them as a company it makes you look bad in a way
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Actually not at all...not even close. Last time I checked, didn't Samsung make the GNex? And didn't they make the Nexus S? How much Touchwiz are in those phones?

I think I see where you're going, but the analogy just didn't quite make sense to me. There is about a 0% chance they'll strip out TW and give us any ICS 'value pack.'

I'm personally not holding out any hope for anything outside GB for our phone. That's just the way it is. Samsung took the safe route in the fact our phone's hardware isn't supposed to support ICS as they'd release it, so they won't. I doubt they'd make a stripped down version of ICS as that wouldn't appease the masses. It would make us happy, but again, we're not the masses which should be their target audience.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
There is no Touchwiz in those because they are pure Google phones. This is why there are choices. It's like "my Samsung TV has the same specs as that other Samsung TV so why isn't mine 3D also? Or why doesn't mine have the internet apps?" Different models and choices to please all. The chances that Samsung will put out something that the carriers also agree on that will wipe clean the phone of Touchwiz and install some ICS-like software is zip. Look at all the comments in the CM9 thread on missing Touchwiz apps....now imagine the general sheep populace. Like I said...choices.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Bah. BAAAAHHHH. /me eats your paper.

:D

Btw, did anyone else notice the the E4GT got an FC14 leak lol. Besides Korey, you have teh upper hand lol

I am Z.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Remember, TouchWiz is way more than a Launcher. It's also an email app, calendar app, modified system panels, and some other stuff I can't think about. IMHO most of those apps are much superior to the stock android stuff. Even though the geek purist in me likes the idea of pure android, in the real world TW is pretty nice. Giving up TW would be a downgrade for a lot of users.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Oh, its more than just that. TouchWiz itself is everything about our phone software wise that is different from AOSP. Like, TouchWiz is an optimized version of android for the Hummingbird processor in our phones. TouchWiz is a skin, is a code scheme, it IS our entire phone.

:D
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
No fc14 tar yet, but fc13 tar got leaked.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I'm fairly certain we're about 100% on the same page. Maybe my quote didn't make sense when read and that's why you quoted it.

That bolded part is exactly what I was trying to say. There's no way it would happen. And yes, the sheeple would be mad confused...
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
AH! I gotcha. It was the first line that I misunderstood where you were going with it...now I got it. You mentioned those meaning Samsung made other choices for a reason.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
FC19.rdf posted, still 2.3.6, still lists GLMS, still lists HDMI video jack?

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/FC19.rdf
[Epic 4G General] :
It clearly says "HDMI No"

Lol
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Dang, how long will it take them? EL30-FC19 has been 2.5-3ish months. Now I'm saying it: There had better be a value pack w/o sprint iD in that :D

I am Z.
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
I'm too lazy to check older rdfs but I just noticed the bull info on fc19. Check out the front cam highest Res. Also notice how it claims to have flash. Front and back cam say it.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I do not think it will ever go higher than 2.3.6 since 2.3.7 adds Google Wallet and there is no NFC chip in the Epic. Even the Galaxy Note is still 2.3.6.