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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zorachus:
Another Chicago guy :)

I am very happy with Calk's ROM 1.5a with the Rogue 1.1 kernel, phone is rock solid stable not one LOS since on that kernel. I am still on stock EG30 too. Very happy with this device.

Also running the cool ICS 1.6 theme by Overstew and some misc. transparent Widgets.

This phone is easily the best device on Sprint right now. Only upgrade worth buying would be the Galaxy S3 next Summer.

Sprint Galaxy S2 w/ Calk's 1.5a + ICS 1.6
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
I just picked up a a Bionic from a local guy for $250 mint in box. I did not think the SIM swap would work being with Verizon so long and having to call or swap phones online with the ESN, but it work flawlessly.

I am liking this Bionic alot. Just pick up the extended battery for half off at the a Corp Verizon store today. This thing is faster, lighter, thinner, and just over all sleeker looking than my TBolt with the mole (Extended battery) on the back. That is one thing I really hated on the Tbolt is how the extended battery fit.

I don't even have this Bionic rooted yet and it blows away my Tbolt on battery life and speed. I'm still getting use to the Motorola android system but digging it so far.

Just some thoughts... I still have my TBolt up and running on WiFi only.
[Thunderbolt General] dajogejr:
Both have plusses and minuses.

It's all about personal preference...

Don't think you can use Data and voice at the same time on the Bionic (that's a big deal for some...not for others..)

I personally like sense. You either love it or hate it... those that hate it tend to like the Motorola devices.

Traditionally, HTC devices are not locked down like Motorola...

Moto makes quality hardware, no doubt about it.

Moto phones are known for better battery life, etc.

I'm still very happy with my bolt...gotta give it up soon as we're going to T-Mobile for work, but I'm still very happy with it. Can't wait till ICS is running on it...
[Thunderbolt General] OffcerClancy:
The first by itself is huge. The second makes it a deal breaker. I can't imagine the difference in speed being anything other than negligible and mitigating.
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
What is Huge? The Tbolt or the Bionic? The Tbolt is bigger and heaver than the Bionic with or without the extended batteries installed.

Also I am not a speed freak. Matter of fact I force 3G on all my droids don't really see the need to run 4G. I am just not liking the HTC built quality after looking and holding other phones and they way they designed use of the extended battery. wow...

The Dinc was not bad it actually looked kool with the layers in the back.

Yes they both have there positives and negatives and like I said I am keeping the Tbolt. It's nice now you can just swap the sim and you on the new phone. That is one thing I always like about the GSM networks.

If I could find a Battery that would keep the original shape (not the big ugly bump on the back) of the Tbolt and last like the Bionic. I would probably stay with the Tbolt

I am still liking the Bionic a little better right now and it's still Stock.

May be rooting it today, but really don't think I will need to other than to remove bloat :):D:p:eek:

That new Razr looks sweet but I would to see it with an extended battery. Also heard that Verizon is locking the bootloader on it, but I am sure it will be rooted after a while.
[Thunderbolt General] recDNA:
Rezound battery for $19.99?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1353300

http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=135247
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
I need to see if the local Verizon store has it in stock. I will buy and try.

I like in the androidcentral post (Forgetful) mentions it's a Lipo battery. Ya right I wish. The Iphone 4 has a Lipo battery in it and My TF101 Transformer 32GB has a Lipo battery in it and they are awesome, but if you have a device that has a Lipo battery in it you will not be able to remove it. Google Lipo Battery fires. I use these batteries in my RC aircraft and I keep them in a fire proof box. They will catch fire if you break the pack and introduce air to the chemicals inside. They also take special chargers.

These Droids would be sweet running Lipo batteries. I almost got an iphone (cough cough) because of this.
[Thunderbolt General] nbdysreal:
I, too, would like to see the extended battery for the razr as it is not a removable battery phone ;)
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
Ohhhhh... I did not know that? Thanks for learning me something. :D

Is it a Lipo battery??? I need to look into this.

Update:

Nope just looked it up. A normal Li-Ion battery

If you can't remove the battery this Droid Razr is a major POS:confused:

Droid Razr

Battery: 1780 mAH Li–Ion

SAR: Head 1.45 W/kg / Body–worn 0.71 W/kg

Talk Time – Up to approx. 12.5 hours or Standby Time – Up to approx. 8.5 days
[Thunderbolt General] nbdysreal:
I looked into it a little more and it is easier to replace the battery than say on an iPhone, but they definately don't want you doing it. The back casing needs to be edged out all the way around with a fingernail, and the battery is GLUED to the back case, which can be removed carefully. After that, the battery is electrical taped down. So for whatever reason, they don't want you in it. Also, the manual says removing the case voids the warranty, but the write up said they didn't see any "void if removed" stickers. Just some info you might not care to read :D
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
I actually got worse battery life on the bionic with the extended battery than the tbolt with the stock battery. I have switched back to the tbolt and like it better. I hate the fact the bionic has a locked bootloader and is the reason I will not buy another moto phone. I have been watching the rezound and the moment it gets s-off and I have sold the bionic I will be buying the rezound.
[Thunderbolt General] htcdesirezgeorge:
I, personally, have both the Bionic and the Tbolt too and I gotta say that I prefer the Tbolt by far. The Tbolt has a developer rich community where the Bionic has a locked bootloader and roms that simply aren't very inventive. I would advise AGAINST rooting the Bionic as it seems to mess with bluetooth connectivity, gps, and the dock. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for Kejar and DroidTh3ory and the rest of the Bionic dev gang BUT my personal opinion is that the Tbolt is the saving grace for those that like to have options with their phone's operating system. To make my case in point, I am using my goofed up(my fault for deleting stuff) Tbolt and letting my Bionic just SIT lol.
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
I did not know that the Bionic has a locked bootloader they have root and custom roms already for it...

I might look at the rezound also. I hope the extended battery is better thought out than the Tbolt.
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
I never felt the need for the extended battery on the tbolt because of custom kernels that ran very lean, and using setcpu to set profiles for when the screen is off. With the bionic, for starters, it felt to light and frail without the extended battery, and also the extended battery was needed because of the lack of custom kernels due to the locked bootloader the thing eats battery like crazy.

Personally I had only ever purchased HTC phones, but got the bionic anyway. I learned from my mistake, and will probably only ever purchase HTC phones ever again, unless this bootloader issue gets figuired out. Seems like moto phones never get the bootloader cracked.
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
Good stuff to know. Thanks. :D

I have not rooted the Bionic yet. I do like the Tbolt I put the original battery back in to make it lighter and slimmer and I'm liking it even more. I just worry about battery life. I will go pick up a Rezound battery today and see how that goes.

The Bionic seems to have better battery life for me. I like having a spare driod and I got a good deal on the Bionic. I may sell it on ebay and make a few bucks and then pick up a Rezound to play with. I am hearing good things about it and the back cover looks like it would not be bad to have an extended battery in it.
[Thunderbolt General] htcdesirezgeorge:
Kendive, I like the way you think. I just discovered last night one great thing with rooting the Bionicn though. There is a hack where you can use the 4g hotspot(21mbps for me) for free. It doesn't have the right chipset to provide a hotspot for PS3 and game systems(just computers) but still it's pretty nice! Let me know if you get the rezound, I'd be interested in hearing what you think about it!
[Thunderbolt General] kidnice15:
I had an iphone 4 for about a year, and then decided to get the Tbolt, Bought it off of somebody for 150 that was only a month old. I love the phone. but wanted something faster. So I ended up trading my iPhone4 for a Bionic and thought I would be in love with it. I switched to the bionic and had so many problems with it. I couldn't stand the 4G issues. One of the reasons I switched from the iphone to thunderbolt. I hated that I couldnt wifi tether my 4G to my iPad :(. So I went back to the thunderbolt. As of right now my bionic is sitting in my bookbag not getting any use and I am back to using my rooted TB with the extended battery. As much as I would love to use the bionic, it just wasn't cutting it for me. If I could find a way to wifi tether with it, I might try and use it again..
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
Wow so many people that have the Bionic just sitting around. I am still using the Bionic and have no issues with data. Like I said I force 3G. I also did that on the Tbolt I don't really see a need for 4G and it sucks up the battery to fast. I could see you point with the WiFi tether and 4G if the Tbolt was on AC power.

I think I tried the WiFi tether once to to see it works but really don't need it PDANet works great for me to use with a laptop once in a while in an Airport, but I don't even do that much.

They both are great phones. I like them equally.:D

And it's kinda nice right now not being rooted and not worrying about what ROM I want to try next and then wipe my phone and reload everything. My Wife can't believe my phones still work as much as I mess with them. LOL
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
Well I got a rezound battery coming for the Tbolt and I will give it another chance on battery life. The Verizon store did not have any in stock but shipping me one for $19.99

I got to play with that new Razr. Pretty sweet phone and he said the battery has not been bad at all. Time will tell.
[Thunderbolt General] kidnice15:
Yea trust me, I hate the fact that I got the phone and I am not using it, after all this bionic talk I am thinking about switching back to it and giving it another try, maybe even force just 3G. Like you said, both are great phones and I like them a lot better then the iPhone I had. What is PDANet I keep hearing about? when I was using the bionic I used to just usb to my laptop for internet while I was out. I still don't understand why Verizon lets you do that for free with the bionic but with the thunderbolt you have to pay
[Thunderbolt General] htcdesirezgeorge:
The tethering with the Bionic is pretty easy.

Here are the steps:

1. Root Bionic with Petes 1click

2. download SQlite editor

3. open SQlite editor(give it some time)

4. Filter by name and type "Check"

5. Change Value next to "Entitlement Check" from 1 to ZERO(0)

6. reboot phone

7. Enjoy 4g tethering for FREE!
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
I kinda liking the Bionic better also for the fact there there is alot more options for cases with the extended battery. I just got two nice cases from amazon for it cheap and one has it's own kick stand built in. I do use the kickstand for sitting up as an alarm clock.

Another thing is and you probably already know on the bionic in the battery settings there is a setting called Data Saver and if it's on it will cause your data to not work well. I think that was a big problem with the Bionic and it got a bad name for this.

PDANet http://junefabrics.com/android/

It use to be on the Market but now you have to goto the website and download to your PC and it will put the app on your phone. I have the paid version of this app. I have been using this app since I own my first droid the Dinc.

PDANet will work any phone...

Verizon still does not allow you to Tether unless you pay but I am grandfather on the unlimited 4G and I really don't worry about doing it. I would tell Verizon to bring it on and I can always goto another provider if they got nasty. I don't think that will ever happen. Life go on and there more than Verizon.
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
This is BAD! Verizon can track this. Which means that if they look at your account you run the risk of loosing unlimited data due to forcing the wireless tether teired plans on you. There is a wireless tether out that works that Verizon cannot track, but it only works with PCs right now.
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
When I ran eclipse I changed the battery setting to performance. Running liberty removed that data saver garbage. Either way I dropped 4G to 3G constantly. Switched back to the tbolt and they all went away. Everyone swore up and down that Motorola makes better radios than HTC but after having these two phones, I don't know what these people have been smoking.
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
Wow I had read where users were having same issues with the Tbolt or any phone. The Bionic I have now is unrooted and completely stock and I have not one issue with it and the battery is lasting longer, and when I bring up my home cameras or anything using 3G (I force 3G) it seems faster than my rooted Tbolt.

Each phone is different and some have issues and some don't. I must be a lucky one with a good used Bionic. As of now I have no plans to root the Bionic don't see a need yet.
[Thunderbolt General] kidnice15:
Thanks for all the info, after all the bionic talk I actually went into by book bag and re activated it to give it another try :). I have been using it for a few hours and forgot how much I liked this phone.. I had no idea about the battery setting data saver, I just checked and it was off. So that is a good thing. I am thinking about going to my local verizon and see if they have a extended battery.

I am also going to try PDANet tonight and see if I can get it working.. Most likely I am going to run on 3G unless I really want to use 4G.
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
Maybe it depends on your location? I dunno. I actually had the leaked update on my bionic which made the 4G signal loss happen less, but it hasn't happened once on my tbolt. The bionic it happened all the time when I'd go to use data. Almost like it barley had a 4G signal and when it tried to use it couldn't. I am on the stock battery in the tbolt with 45% battery left at 17.6 hours. The bionic on the extended battery I never got past 22-24 hours before the phone would auto power off due to dead battery. My tbolt will go long past that.
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
What ROM are you running on the Tbolt and Radio?
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
CM7.1.1 with the latest gingerbread radios. Imosyions lean kernel on smartass governor with setcpu so it overclocks to 1.7Ghz. Profile in setcpu so when screen is off the processor can only clock a Max of 384(or whatever that one is.) I also have an advanced task killer set to autokill every 30 mins aggressively. I know everyone seems to hate them, but they also do me well. I used to have an Evo 4G that I used the ATK on and people called me stupid but I would get more than 3 days on a single charge while they were getting a day and a half. I peg my battery life on the evo being better partially from having bump charging kernels. I am probably going to pick up the rezound battery since I plan on getting one anyway and maybe break 3 days on my tbolt too :). One can always hope.
[Thunderbolt General] kendive:
Thanks... Sounds like a sweet setup.
[Thunderbolt General] recDNA:
I've never gotten more than 18 hoirs out of my tbolt with extended battery. I sync everything and kill nothing because I want a smart phone.
[Thunderbolt General] bL33d:
No way could i own a phone that does not have sense 3.5 on it. after i installed bamf soab im spoiled now.

rezound battery ftw also.
[Thunderbolt General] clur:
when I first got my TB i didn't like the sense stuff.. I will admit it has grown on me now and im ok with it.. I too also just got a Rezound battery and that mod alone is what is keeping from upgrading come end of month.. I'd like to see if the Bionic or RZR can play some of my MKV files better and the HDMI out feature is what really appeals to me.. when a good deal kicks out for a RZR or Bionic i'll probably jump on that wagon again.. I like motorola phones.. :D my OG is still kicking and screaming..
[Thunderbolt General] bolt_of_thunder:
Just bought my wife a used bionic to replace her fascinste and we should get it today. I'm really hoping it doesn't have the data drops as I will be canceling our home internet and using just our phone's hotspots. My tbolt works great as a hotspot but if my wife's bionic doesn't work I'll never hear the end of it! I hope Motorola puts out that update soon I've been reading about to fix the data drop issues.

Quick question. Will I need to root her bionic to get the hotspot to work properly? I don't like the fact that I could possibly miss future updates if I install the wrong leak.

Sent from my SHIFTAO5P
[Thunderbolt General] lrs421:
The Bionic does do voice and data. I think all LTE phones do.
[Thunderbolt General] KidJoe:
I would say after my own experiences with my Bionic, and all the threads I've read in the various forums.. Yes you are one of the lucky ones with a "good bionic."

There are two issues at hand...

First... There is the 3G <-> 4G hand offs which can be slow, and cause apps to say you have no data connection (on the Bionic I've seen this last as long as 1 min or more, the TB was slow until VZW's MR2/1.70.605.0 OTA and the last VZW GB update/2.11.605.5, as well as the leaked GB 2.11.605.2, where transitions don't seem to drop data for me anymore[one of my tests was streaming Rhapsody, it used to drop when I first got TB, doesn't drop after MR2. The Bionic drops constantly]).

This issue impacts all the 4G phones. How long the transition between G's lasts depends on the phone and firmware. I expect this is going to be a problem until there are single chip solutions out there (maybe the 2nd or 3rd generation LTE chip sets?) or Verizon blankets all 3G areas with 4G as well (so there will be no reason for the phone to head back to 3G).

Second is the Bionic's problem of loosing data all together and needing the user to toggle Airplane mode on/off, or even pulling the battery (and keeping out for up to 2 minutes) as attempts to restore the data connection. While the data connection is lost, you can receive phone calls, but no email, web, or other data. I've even experienced inability to receive SMS messages and VM notifications (once you do the dance and manage to get data back, all that comes flooding in). This is UNIQUE to the Bionic, and I've read mixed reports of similar happening on the Razr. This is something that has NOT happened on the Thunderbolt. I've experienced it first hand (at home and traveling) on my Bionic, its maddening, and forcing to 3G doesn't matter. I have friends and family with the Bionic also having the issue.

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Having both phones, and using them side by side, with the same exact set of apps installed on each.. I like the screen and Camera better on the Bionic. I like the size/shape of the Bionic (without case) for fitting in my jeans pocket.

Anyone who has a TB or other phone that is working in any way shape or form and considering switching to the Bionic... I'd suggest you wait until AFTER Moto/VZW brings out the first official OTA update to see if it fixes the data issues (if forum posts about the leaks are to be believed, then the first OTA update VZW pushes wont fix, and there are mixed responses saying they've helped as well as "no change"), otherwise you could run the very big/real risk of getting a bionic which looses data connection without warning.

---------- Post added at 09:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 PM ----------

The TB does simultaneous Voice/Data in 3G areas (without WIFI) as well as 4G areas.

The Bionic does simultaneous Voice/Data in 4G areas, or 3G areas with a Wifi connection for data.
[Thunderbolt General] nosympathy:
Lemme restate clearly what the other Guy was saying.

Tbolt has dual 3g radios. Can do voice/data simultaneously on 3G. If connected to 4G, uses 3g for voice and 4G for data.

Bionic has a single 3G radio. So you can do voice/data simultaneously only if you are connected to 4G or Wifi.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gustrick:
Hello Guys:

Did you know if this rom works in a international Atrix? or is just for the AT&T.

Thanks in advance

Greatings
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orb3000:
Welcome

Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
[Nook Touch General] ram100987:
I just got a nook simple touch which I am so far impressed with. However, there are a couple things I am disappointed about.

First, it seems difficult to add files to it. It would be much more convenient if I could add dropbox to it.

Second, I thought it would be possible put simple games like sudoku or word games on it.

Third, I was hoping I could have a rss/feed reader on it.

I know this device is very limited due to the grayscale and slow refresh, but I am not looking for a full fledged Android ROM on it. I would actually prefer to keep it as stock as possible, and simply add those three or four apps to it

What is the least invasive way to add these apps to the device?

Can I simply give it root access and install these apps without flashing a whole ROM?
[Nook Touch General] densets:
Once rooted, you can have dropbox, sudoku, rss feeds and most android applications with little to no animation. Keep in mind the nook ST OS is android 2.1

To root it, you can check either this forum o http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1351719one. The process is simple, you 'burn' an image on a sd card, put it on your nook and restart it. Nevertheless, read the instructions carefully. I strongly advice you to backup your nook before attempting to do anything. Look here.
[Nook Touch General] ram100987:
That looks pretty simple, but it sounds like it will have a new ui with the launcher and app drawer. Will I be able to have the stock

nook ui and still run the apps I want?
[Nook Touch General] apeine:
Well, original nook ui - and launcher, in this case - won't allow you to add apps. ADW or Go launcher, when well setup, won't hinder your experience in using nook.
[Nook Touch General] ram100987:
Ok, I searched YouTube for a video on rooting it. (I can believe I didn't think of this already) it does give a different ui, but there is an option to load the factory launcher. I may just try it and see how a like it and just keep a backup or know how to factory restore it in case I don't
[Nook Touch General] spedinfargo:
Rooting doesn't change the look and feel of the reader that much - the nook button still brings up the little launcher/appdrawer thingy at the bottom of the screen, regardless of if you have a replacement launcher as primary. You can even leave the stock reader app as default as well (I still like it better than the other ones I've tried).

After rooting it's very easy to install dropbox, dropsync(!) and other apps. Go for it.
[Nook Touch General] 5implelove:
just root and get apps that you want
[Nook Touch General] nicksbrain:
Okay, i actually like the BNST, but I really miss basic stuff like gmail and an occasional browser... if I'd root... how about battery life if you mainly use the BN "launcher"? Anyone using it like that?