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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] provolinoo:
I can get your point of view and I understand you want to be rewarded for all the time you spend programming the app.

But you should think about all the guys, mostly younger ones, who would support your work but they can't since they have no credit card linked to their gmail account.

In this scenario ad-supported free version could be a good alternative to give them the app helping you making some additional money ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] danielvc:
you can buy a prepaid credit card in a matter of seconds for a few dollars/euro.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lynxboy:
You're right in regards to the screen etc being the biggest drains on the battery, but I managed a full days test on single core yesterday and reached 5 hrs 25mins screen time. This is a substantial increase on dual core mode. So skimping on CPU can be beneficial for those wanting maximum duration, but in the grand scheme of things is not necessary.

Regards.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
I couldn't possibly be satisfied with any other kernel but Franco's. I flashed #162 the other day and it kinda messed my phone up a bit. I flashed back to #160, but today when I flashed #162 (after wiping cache and dalvik both times) it now decided to work properly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Treatcon:
Same here, wiped cache and dalvik cache 4 times each, installed Faux's kernel reset for 4.0.4 and ran this...

Now 162 runs nicely. Don't know why it didn't work before, getting missed calls and no notifications when screen turned off, but it's working now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] schizophrenia:
is this preparation kernel same as the "reset kernel" people mentioned before?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] odin13:
Buy a prepaid credit card on the internet...works fine for me...i'm from netherlands too

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Treatcon:
No clue what others were talking about or referring to, just look on Faux's kernel thread and there is a link for it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
By just upgrading to another kernel version within the same kernel you shouldn't need to use that "reset kernel" thing, right?

What does it even clean? I remember it said something about init.d, but I see no such folder in my system.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lambetts:
Question for you dude.

I really want to use this kernel as I know its kick ass. Haha. But I want to set the Max CPU to 1200 only. Not 1228. Its just me, a personal choice. Don't want to OC my phone at all.

And, where is there an official, stable milestone version of Cynagenmod? I can only find nightlys? Maybe that's the one but it seems, and I say seems to be no milestones? Sorry for the noon question but saw your post and thought I'd ask.

Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] provolinoo:
It's not about me, I already bought the app... it was in general, teens are not used to waste time going to buy prepaid cards and similar stuff.

If they can't get it for free on the market, they pirate it, simple.

Having a free ad version help to reduce piracy as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jnr21:
That 28mhz oc is so minimal, it doesn't make any harm to your device/battery.

I think that there's no any stable-branded builds of cm9 yet. Check cyanogenmod.com for more info.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nutsonfire:
Its really sad to see people that want to flash custom rom/kernel but have a psychological problem with a 28mhz overclock... why don't you just leave everything stock? You realise the kernel tweaks tens of other settings dont you? CPU overclock is by far not the most extreme thing that is happening with this kernel.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotnikkelz:
@franco

Ran into weird problem today. Tried to flash a nightly with the app and it refused to download. I couldn't look at the changelogs either, it just brought up a grey screen. Reboots don't seem to solve the problem :'(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 6jaipur6:
Franco thanks for your work best baterry life ever had on my G-Nex. I use r.162

And I had 40% baterry left:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Serious_Beans:
I don't understand how people are getting 3.5/4 even 5 hrs of screen time with standard battery. What do you guys use your phones for that the screen can be on for that long? What ROM ? I've tried nearly every ROM and have never been able to get over 3 hrs. 1036/384 SR on, interactive governor. Atm I'm using AOKP but I've used CM9 and ARHD 4.0.1
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Coldheat1906:
That's the same question I have.......

Are you guys only just turning your phone on to check the time? or to only send a text?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CaspaTheGhost:
As per my most recent battery life post, I agree! Maybe using a single core would increase life but not substantially... Screen and mobile signal are by far the biggest drains, hence we get the best screen on time while on wifi.

I've noticed that my wifi can be a bit temperamental, it drops out while screen off (not downloading or active) but that only happens while I'm in the office, not at home. I therefore believe its a router issue rather than a phone issue...

I have an extended battery, official one... But...

Wifi, all about wifi mate... If I'm out all day and I can get 2.5-3.5hrs, whereas if I'm at home all day I can get 4.5-5.5hrs... And thats using Interactive, 729/1344, SR on.... Using AOKP...

If my screen is on, data is in use easily 90% of the time so its all about the drain from mobile data which is much greater than wifi... You can actually see the difference in drain as your using it...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] metalspring:
You can set the values manually can't you? I never really checked, I just bought the app, the $3 or so is definitely worth it though
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] metalspring:
Could this be why? This is a change glados made
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] metalspring:
and finally, since i never got a chance to post this yesterday, this is what i got testing FIOPS i/o scheduler vs cfq, deadline and noop, so you might want to try to include it for testing at some point to at least compare to sio?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rmcsc:
I'm using stock ROM and just recently hit four hours of screen on time with ten hours of battery life. I just moderate usage. If I'm not using the phone, I turn off data and wifi. If I'm using wifi, I turn off data. If I'm away from a modem I make sure wifi is off. So on and so forth.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sveke:
It's all about signal type and strength.

Wifi I get 4 hrs +. 4g gives me 2 hrs if I'm lucky.

Simple as that.

I'm on liquid 1.4 and run 192-1228 interactive SR on. Standard battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotnikkelz:
micromanagement for the motha****in win

I have no qualms about on screen battery time, my issue is battery drain on sleep which STILL isn't like a slew of people on here using this same kernel. I'm bleeding around close to 10% while sleeping. No funky business going in batterystats app so i dunno what's up. I'm playing with different govs to see if I get improvements :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tuemdeluxe:
I had to the same problem with the xxla2 radio. Flashed uglc1 although I'm from Germany and that solved the high battery drain. Maybe try another radio, I noticed big differences with the same rom /kernel setup.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotnikkelz:
I'm from the caribbean I'm wondering if I should use an American thingy, since I think i'm on the european standard one currently. Not sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 6jaipur6:
Is my first time when I get to this performance in generally I got 2 hours of screen but with Paranoid Rom and R.162 I have this performance. I use wi fi all the time browsing, playing crime city or temple run or septica much time on xda, 10-20 calls and same sms... Franco did a very good job with the latest versions but R.162 is simply awesome.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qballe:
Get a life first ,then buy a Nokia.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] metalspring:
...if you dont want to overclock at all, then try another kernel that has a 1200 slot, I'm sure Franco chose his slots for a reason, by the way the difference between 1200 and 1228 is extremely minimal, the voltage would be the same either way as will battery life
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] provolinoo:
Ahahahahahah grandissimo :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vangelis13:
No need to get rude mate, it was just a question.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Culex316:
hey Franco any plans integrating the latest Linux kernel release into upcoming nightlies or is there no need?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] flolep:
Thanks for these tests metalspring.

Very informative.

If you can find sio and vr schedulers that are for me the two best schedulers I tested on android devices so far, could you do the same tests with these two and add them to your txt file?

Could fill my curiosity and that of Francisco :-)

Thx in advance.

++
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isinisterx:
The people that are getting 4+ hours of screen on time are keeping their phones on for 20-30 mins at a time. In a normal working day of sending one or two emails per screen on time and such. Expect around 2-2.5 hours of screen on time with the stock battery.

This is what I have noticed personally since milestone 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sveke:
+1.....I agree with this

I notice the same pattern.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leelaa:
i can get easy 3 and a half hours, on stock rom with franco kernel, 512 gpu.

stock battery.

if i use a custom rom then then i can just manage 3 hours.

Edit, i also play alot of temple run, browsing xda, sending texts and making calls.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oned:
Hi Franco, love your kernel, tested all others and always back to yours. Thank you !!

Just one thing for me : can you give the compatibility with color control of CM9 's rom, a la FuguMod ...

Sent from my GNex
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drawde40599:
Your 100% wrong, but thanks for telling us how we use our phones; )

Just cause u can't get it dont mean others can't, don't forget every phone and battery different
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Antob125:
All the people with leet battery life are GSM. We LTE folk on the other hand get worse cause LTE drains like a *****!

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rogersnm:
I'm on GSM but still struggle to get more than 2.5 hours screen time out of it (no gaming, just chrome/gmail) - it'll last for days with the screen off though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drawde40599:
verison

Is this also the Verizon thread? I.didn't no that, makes sence ....

Don't u guys have a bigger battery to make up for ...?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tsabasid:
Battery life is relevant to idle time. When you constantly playing with the phone after chargin you may get even close to 5 hours in a 10h span. For regular every day use, u get less because you have to factor in the cell standby battery consumption, how many services like push email accounts are syncing etc...

I personally get about 3h of screen time in a 36h period with about 90 min of voice calls and 5 push email accounts synced, as every day use.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] metalspring:
That's just the problem, to do accurate testing it would need to be on the same kernel and none have both sio and FIOPS yet. I haven't heard of one having vr either though
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isinisterx:
Exactly... I'm with wind so I don't get full bars most of the time so therefore my battery drains much faster.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] metalspring:
Its technically the GSM thread but since kernels work on all 3 gnex versions the same (Verizon cdma, sprint cdma, and GSM) many Verizon gnex owners post here as well
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] macellaio:
Many CDMA users follow this thread because it has much more activity than the official CDMA thread.

The rest of this is directed at nobody in particular and everybody in general.

As far as battery goes, all these posts are utterly pointless. I don't gauge my performance against other users. Why? Because IT'S IMPOSSIBLE; there are just too many variables between usage, apps installed/used, hardware tolerances, ROMs, signal, etc. What I do is use a kernel over several days and judge it based solely on MY usage patterns, and even my own patterns I would classify as diverse to put it mildly. Some days I have lots of texts, some days lots of emails (3 Gmail and 2 other accounts), some days I have an hour of calls, some days lots of browsing, and some days I play games for up to an hour. Sometimes I'm on 3G with -110 dBm of signal and sometimes I'm on 4G with -70 dBm.

For example, I have a CDMA phone with an extended battery, but Francisco's kernel is the only one I've ever been able to break 3 hours of screen on time with and I've tried most of the major kernels (Leankernel, Trinity, GLaDOS, Hybrid, and CM+). I've hit 3 hours before and had 18% battery left and I've hit 3 hours and had 4% left at the end of the day. Some other guys here would cringe at this kind of performance, but FOR ME it's good. So the point of all this is that the Nexus line is made for experimentation, so instead of worrying about the guy next to you, do your own experimenting and find out what works best FOR YOU.

P.S. And for the love of Pete, quit being tightwads and buy Francisco's app. If you can't get it from the Play Store, it's also available at Androidpit and it makes experimenting sooooo much easier.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SupraN0va:
It's easy, just buy the app from the market. :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] flolep:
Oh well ok. I have no doubt that Francisco has already done or will do some tests on his own and if there is more performance to squeeze would have put it or will put it in his kernel :-)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] macellaio:
++ for adding FIOPS. I've expressed interest in adding the FIOPS scheduler to the kernel in the past. It's still experimental, but hey, I'm all for experimenting. If it outperforms SIO, I'd really like to see if it provides any noticeable increase in overall performance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ssglackey:
Little bug report for Franco:

I had flashed imoseyon's kernel via your app for test and set max frequency to 1650MHz (set max screen off freq. too). After I finished with testing I reflashed #162, but max screen off frequency was still displayed as 1650. I had to set it manually to desired frequency (1350).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mikespe:
Whatever you do Franco do NOT change a damn thing with this kernel!!! A bunch of pages back a posted I was having issues with 158 (I think...I forgot with all the fast updates lately!) in regards to battery life. I was barely getting 90min of screen on time. Now on 162 (Liquid 1.4) and I'm getting 2.5-3hrs! Sure not the 4+ hrs some are getting but no one should complain about 3 hrs of screen on time! Everything is running SOOOOOO smooth & fast! Between you & the Liquid team you've created a GREAT combo! I really think you nailed it with this one...I probably should download a back up of 162 just in case future updates don't play nice!!

Thanks for all your work!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zammbi:
I turned logger off in the kernel updater and now it seems I can't turn it back on even after a restart. Is anyone else having any issues with this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drawde40599:
Naw I just didn't no there were so many verizon users here, all info / results is good info!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] asim0:
@Francisco any plans for a 576 mhz cpu frequency?

Sent from my Galaxy Far Far Ahead
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dpaine88:
Franco are you planning on adding any slots higher than 1334?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] franciscofranco:
Nah, we don't need more in-between slots :)

Yes, no eta though, I'm a bit busy and I'm still planing to drop one more nightly before Milestone 4.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ZachPatterson:
Finally got the 10 posts to be able to reply here and say Thanks for everything you've done for this kernel/phone.

I've bought your app also because it makes it so bloody easy/effortlessly to flash newer revisions, and tweak settings

Keep up the good work!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zok-star:
franco cause you are an amaizng person and all.. Can we please get a better looking widget????
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Luuthian:
If it's worth anything. I've noticed 3 hours of screen time with the franco kernel is the norm for many. Every time people here compare stats, the screen lasts about 2.5-3 hours.

If you can hit three hours, you're doing pretty damn good. Given that the hardware is locked, it's likely not going to get much better than that for a days use.

With my extended battery, I can personally get about 3-4 hours if I'm doing mild gaming and texting. The battery vanishes in seconds if I do a lot of web surfing though. Any time the cellphone needs to exchange data while having the screen on you can bet the phone will die extremely fast. If the game I'm playing isn't optimized, that be a huge suck too. Dungeon Village drains the battery at an insane pace, while something like Sonic CD can run for 3+ hours without a sweat.

It's all about how you use the phone, and how well the programs you are using are coded. But people should feel satisfied if they're hitting three hours of screen time. It might not be as long as you wanted, but it's simply what the phone is capable of.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dpaine88:
Also phone calls and Google Navigation use a ton of battery and are used often with the screen off.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thepawn:
Are you going to integrate some code to stop MAC randomization? I'd love to stop having to repair my bluetooth devices...there's a thread in the main forum about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] franciscofranco:
Do you want to draw it for me? :)

@thepawn

It's already merged on the nightly tree, courtesy of imoseyon.

On another note I'd like to thank everyone for making this possible and reaching a ****ing huge 2 million thread views, all thanks to you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jnr21:
Maybe some text/bg color picker and transparency slider for widget would be nice :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chlehqls:
No problem Franco. As long as you put out more good work, you'll get the views and attention. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Stretlow:
Is 70 degrees for the CPU while browsing considered normal?

Phone getting quite hot during use. Seems to be lower on CM9 Kernel (Francos is better though)

Stret
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drawde40599:
What build r u on? I'm on 162 and I've ever seen mine go over 53°c (Franco app) no matter what I'm doing even after couple hours go by with continuous use , older builds ( like 10 ago ) have heat issues for sum ( me ) they were getting past 70°, but these newer ones have been running cooler than stock kernel for me. 70° c yes that's to hot, some will say different I'm sure ....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] provolinoo:
Not a bad idea, it would give the feeling kernel is more "integrated" with the ROM :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Puzzlegirl:
Mine also gets this hot with intensive use (162/512). It cools down pretty quickly though if I stop using it :-P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigeyes0x0:
Depends on whether you are on 3g or wifi, 3g is hotter and also if you're watching any flash. These usages will heat up your phone a lot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alinescoo:
@franco: first of all fantastic work. Second, would it be possible to implement this in kernel: long press power button => restart device. On my old Galaxy S1 there was this thing, that if I holded power button for 10 seconds it did a restart. This was very usefull when the phone was frozen. I somehow :) manage to freeze my phone from time to time, especially when using flash player and it's quite annoying to always take out battery cover and remove the battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thepawn:
Awesome job man, thanks for the effort!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Stretlow:
Im Running CM9 Franco 162/512 it does cool down if I stop using it.. I was messing with Liquid smooth last week and its doesnt seem to get as high (about 50 degrees on that but I think CM9 is better (opinion).

Whats strange is if I run the CM9 Kernel with CM9 or even the Trinity kernel it also doesnt get that high but Franco's kernel is better....

Just looks like Franco's doesnt play nice with CM9, might have to just switch the Rom as I dont want to damage my phone.

For the record this isn't a complaint, just an observation, its not francos fault his Kernel acts differently with different Roms
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drawde40599:
Ya I'm on liquid and 50-53 is as hot as 162 go, it seriously don't matter what I do it don't heat up, since Franco is stock on liquid and is working on the rom( I no he said he was on 1.35) would make sense best combo ..... but ya 70° c that's to hot IMO
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] metalspring:
Well of course you got that many views, after all, yours is the best kernel there is for both relative performance (best performance at the same CPU speed) and best for battery life...

I've tried faux, cmplus, glados and imos kernel and I always come back here
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Puzzlegirl:
I'm on Liquid 1.4 and 162 still gets that hot. Maybe I should stop using the phone quite so much... As I said before, it does cool down quickly if I leave it alone for a while.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chrispo:
I am using franco kernel on cm9 and the temperature never goes beyond 40 degrees celcius (mind you, not fahrenheit!) . Are you sure it is not a app / faulty flash? I would start off with a clean romantic and franco kernel...

Chris
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
No, thank you for making the best kernel for this phone!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] subvertz:
Just a heads up, this kernel will not display a cursor for the apple magic trackpad. Search showed it hadn't been discussed before.

I'm sure it was taken out as unneeded extra code, but I find it useful for remote control while using an MHL adapter. It works in stock, and I used it with faux123.

Otherwise, the franco kernel worked great for me!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] odin13:
Romance?? Where?? :D

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Stretlow:
I do a fresh install about once a fortnight, it nver changes, I always set my phone up the same way no matter which Rom I use so while not being an expert I can pretty much rule out a rouge app
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
Well, you've done something, that's for sure. What happens if you would wipe data and boot back into the ROM and set it up like you always do but skip the part where you reinstall apps?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chrispo:
It's all about fuzzy and warm feelings this kernel build... :)

Chris
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drawde40599:
U tried the reset kernel? If not search this thread link will pop up ... be my next step ..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Theshawty:
The reset kernel seems to remove certain libs other roms might need. Isn't it better just to manually remove the folder /system/etc/init.d?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] metalspring:
I'm not entirely sure but I don't think the reset kernel matters since it's mainly used to reset the boot.img but Franco kernels have their own boot.img which overwrites the stock one anyway...some kernels merely use whatever boot.img is already there- like fauxs kernel for instance
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Stretlow:
Im not satying in anyway i've not done anything wrong, just seems strange that its only that combination (CM9+Franco) That heats the beast up.

Are you saying because CM9 comes with its own kernel it might be better resetting it to stock then flashing Franco?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CaspaTheGhost:
Franco's includes a script that cleans system/modules and system/etc/init.d as well as wiping davlik-cache...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] metalspring:
Btw what does everyone think of using these values for the governor control for interactive governor? I get an almost perfect balance of the higher CPU speed slots used- see screenshot

(if not mentioned then it's just the stock value)

go_hispeed_load- 90

hispeed_freq- 1228800

Min_sample_time- 10000

Timer_rate- 40000
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jnr21:
What is that hispeed_freq? I thought that if i set max cpu freq to 1344mhz, then hispeed_freq must be 1344000, and if max freq is set to 1228mhz, then hispeed_freq must be 1228800. These values are a bit confusing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leelaa:
Well, Franco 162 running great since you first released it.

you droping a new nightly anytime soon?