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[HTC Sensation] messer19:
Let´s face it guys, HTC Sensation is definitely not a premium phone. I tried to overlook it´s cons for months but when I noticed dust under the screen I immediately returned it for a warranty repair and decided to sell it. Spending 540€ and getting faults like

- unresponsive touch screen (solved)

- random reboots!

- overheating! and crackling back cover

- dust under the screen!

it´s just rudiculous!

OK, you are saying "you just got a faulty piece", but I´m definitely not just the one of few.

What I learned from this experience? Not to buy a new phone without waiting for reviews from other users.

To OP: no matter the phone you are about to get, just buy what you want. It´s hard to compare Sensation vs. Wildfire because you can have specific needes. Somebody is happy with Nokia 3310 till now, because of battery life and ability to phone and messaging. I´m Android fan and decided for SGS2. The speed of the UI cannot be compared to laggy Sense. Touchwiz is not as eye-candy as Sense, but doesn´t slows-down the awesome hardware like Sense on Sensation. but I´m using MIUI. Also the screen is something really different altough has lower DPI thans Sensations. The colors and contrast are really impressive. And the body is light and solid.

Altough I considered HTC a premium company it´s a big letdown for me.
[HTC Sensation] KeeperOfThePizza:
I had one as of 3 days ago. I've had the Sensation since August. Honestly.. No. I actually do not suggest for you to buy. It's not that I dont say it's a good device cause it is. But from a software perspective it really got the crap end of the stick I feel like, Development never took off. There's issues with the device that HTC still wont address.(or is in process and just is slacking) I had a G2, Sensation and I switched to an iPhone 4S. While i DO NOT think Apple is that great. I just want something that looks nice and the battery life is rather good.. I don't think the Sensation is a bad device but when it comes to Battery Life and Development it lacks. I honestly miss the 4.3" screen and Android already.

Cheers and good luck.
[HTC Sensation] messer19:
Not a bad choice. You get what you pay for at least. But I lost a lot of money selling sensation 200€ cheaper after half a year. Good luck with iPhone, it´s a good and nice device.
[HTC Sensation] ArcticWolf91:
Well I wouldn't call it a terrible phone by any means, but it just didn't live up to my expectations, and I've just sold it. I will be moving on to something else.
[HTC Sensation] waltthizzney:
its a good phone but there are better phones out there today, just buy a nexus or amaze now....

and I wish the phone just worked out of the box installing all this custom **** is annoying
[HTC Sensation] kingston73:
From what I've read I wouldn't want a Nexus, either the old or the brand new. As for the amaze, the reviews make it seem like it's basically a version of the sensation only with a dedicated camera button. Granted I don't have my sensation yet but if this forum is anything like the G2 one it seems there are people who love it or hate it and not a lot in between. The lovers wouldn't have anything else and the haters will never be convinced otherwise, I wonder what I'll be in a few weeks?:confused:
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Maybe battery you've got is ****e. Let's see how Anker fares. For best battery life look up my battery thread in General.
[HTC Sensation] cyanogendroid:
Why must people say the sensation is so horrible? It is all software. Steer clear of sense and that fixes all of your problems.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G Cm7 Alpha 10
[HTC Sensation] cyanogendroid:
Completley agree. The sgs2 may have faster quadrant scores, but is not as smooth and the build quality is a joke. People should know that if you get the sensation, you are paying for a top quality phone with bad software. Thankfully though, software can be changed infinitley to fit ones needs.

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G Cm7 Alpha 10
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I checked it I also read at least 4-5 other topics about battery life, some ideas do clearly contradict itself (like should it be always fully discharged, yes 0-100%-0 helps calibrating but does it help battery?). When it comes to software stuff like turning off animations, underclocking processor, limiting synchronization, going from 3 g to 2g (I do not turn off wifi because it does contradicts idea of having smartphone!!) installing juice defender, monitoring battery etc, I think I tried ALL of them on my sensation!!! Yes of course they had impact (some of them), going from 7 hours on battery (STOCK ROM, no changes applied) to 12 hours on heavy use is a significant change however it is not enough. Simple as that I need 16 hours, time to test Anker, and anyway I have now 3 batteries and external charger ( 1 stock, 2 anker, stock left at home) so problem solved but seriously, solution is ridiculous and it is annoying to spend extra 20 quid on something that should be good from the beginning.

Edit: also I don't think that turning off all options that can potentially affect battery life can be positive, I turned everything from vibrating buttons to decreasing level of brightness to get that result, seriously is that something that you are happy to sacrifice? I'm not happy about it.
[HTC Sensation] Sibbi:
I always turn off wifi, when entering an area where I know that I don´t have a connection. Also I switch to 2G when I know I wan´t to make a call, that could be a little bit longer (e.g. 1 hour or so). I don´t see that interfere with the expactations I have to a smartphone.

I hope you will keep us up to date about your experiences with the Anker battery. Been thinking of getting one my self.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I'm sure that is strongly dependable from our environment. At home, work and university I have wifi time when I'm moving between those locations its usually 20-40 min a day and that is maximum so turning it off for that time seems pointless, on the other side I hardly ever turn 3g on as I have wifi everywhere. If you don't have wifi access for most of the day then opposite will be true for you. For me turning off wifi will mean giving up better and faster connection for sake of battery life and this is not what my smartphone is for.

About anker around 23:30 started of 69% and now I got 16% with about 2 hours screentime so light use for me but it is already more then 17 hours from first use without full charge! I am impressed. That means stock battery is rubbish. With money that I paid for this phone it shouldn't happen.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Almost 18 hours alive and 1% left

Edit: flat, approximately 18 hours wow I can't wait till I flat both of them, and try them from 100% I am actually excited about this phone for the very first time. I think I might easily reach 16 hours on those or maybe more. I hope I'm not being overoptimistic because its been really moderate use for me so far on this anker but even on that use stock battery never reached that level. Second one starts from 60% now

Ok TO EVERYONE WHO KEEP SECOND BATTERY IN YOUR POCKET? how do you keep it safe? Because it just crossed my mind that my pocket is not the safest environment for the battery. Full of fluffy things, worm, during cycling in the rain might even get slightly wet so do you have any plastic bag or small envelope like case or something to keep it safe?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Don't alternate them. Just use one battery and keep other one topped up for an emergency
[HTC Sensation] broncogr:
Reopened....

I would prefer it if the title was changed to something more agreeable not just plain ranting.

Cheers

EDIT: Title changed
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Sensation, advendtages, disadventages and dealing with some issues

Thank you for reopening. I will try to be as polite, as possible. To everybody, I would still like you to vote in poll but not discuss it too much as it rise emotions, I asked for reopening because I think few people waiting for screens (first will post today) and update on my Anker battery life. It will be excellent because I used both stock and Anker on exactly same phone and setup on which as you know stock battery done extremely bad. Yesterday first Anker battery survived approximately 18 hours, second 4 hours but they both were freshly out of the box so it does not mean anything, they could be actually on 5% level of charge etc. and stats which were not deleted from stock battery gave wrong reading of level (on first they showed 69% on second I think it was 62%). Today I charged them both full and calibrated second ago.

tinky1- why should I not alternate them? Because I thought I should do exactly opposite to keep them alive and good as long as possible.
[HTC Sensation] rawrfische:
Haha cool you got the Ankers. Looking forward to see how much they improve your experience. I know this hasn't been the most popular thread on the forum, but I've been following it. Your thread inspired me to really nitpick at my battery and mess with different rom/kernel/clock setups so I don't have to keep charging throughout the day.

I've been on the fence about the Anker battery for a while, but might just grab a pair if your experience proves positive.

So anyway, this is what I've been able to come up with on light-medium use (see attachments). It doesn't come close to those people who go two days on one charge, but I think it's decent for the crappy stock battery, no?
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
You can alternate them as long as you recharge it after drain. If not, you battery stats would only see discharge, but not the charge. They might get a bit confused, don't you think?
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Yes I do think it might but on the other hand keeping one battery all the time charged to full and second draining all the time to 0 might affect batteries.... so it is choosing between affected baterries and affected stats....

Also it strongly depends on how often emergency occures, if it will happen everyday that I will have to put another battery then well, simply, charge one, use other, and replace when it happens again with charged.

Not to mention that actually batteries discharge themselves even from only keeping them in a pocket, that means that one unused battery when it actually comes to emergency might not be 100% at this point. Charging it very second day will solve that issue but again it might damage the battery.

I don't think there is one simple solution here, it is either mistakes from stats (posible I can not predict with my experience and knowledge will those be bad, ebcause I never used two batteries at the same time) or acting the way that will damage battery, hard to say from my position which one is worst.

Maybe somone who use two batteries on regular basis can tell us how is he doing and how are stats/batteries affected?

ALso I am not sure did calibration wen well this morning, it shows me some of past stats for nor reason, I was half asleep when I done it so maybe I did not notice that it did not happened or something (battery calibration stats, I do not delete them manually anymore) anyway, will stick to it if result will not be satisfying I will simply calibrate it again, at the moment I will ignore it and stick to going to full 5 charges.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Exelelent results, you achieved so much more then I ever did on stock battery with similar screentime. Of course I realize that what you actually doing during that screentime is important but still, awesome result for stock battery. Any additional things you think I could do with my one (after the test of course I want to try 7-14 days on Anker without changing anything to see is this battery really worth spending money) ?
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Ok so that is my typical morning light to moderate use results. Good result so far already after yesterday I knew that this battery is doing very well on light use (when I was asleep it used only about 15% for almost 7 hours that was wow). Now I'm at work and it is time when I'm learning and surfing so it is time when I put pressure on it but I will try to keep similar use as I done on stock battery which will be 3-4 hours screentime. We will see.
[HTC Sensation] rawrfische:
True, it matters a lot what you're doing during screen on time. When I'm gaming, I overclock a little and my battery drops like a rock. The screenies I posted were just my typical use day: web surfing, a couple of phone calls, some time on maps because my wife and I were lost lol, facebook, email, snapping a few pics and my son watching some vids on gallery and over YouTube.

The only things I could really recommend are to underclock for basic use, cpu screen off profile, undervolt, keep syncing reasonable, don't use auto brightness, and turn off things when you don't need them (bluetooth, wifi when out, use wifi calling at home, etc).

I'm curious, what is it you do on the phone that drains it so hard?
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I mostly read, pdf, epub, blogs of google reader, taking few pictures from my notes and learning from it, dolphin browser, many emails etc. so it is not something unusual.

About your list:

underclock for basic use,

Done to 1080 will try more after finishing testing anker, don't want to change it now as I would like to have clear picture of a difference between anker and stock

cpu screen off profile,

Not done, underclocking option built in, I was too lazy to installs additional app

undervolt,

Same here, will try after testing

keep syncing reasonable,

Changed in the past with juice defender, there was a difference but insignificant, might try again after testing

don't use auto brightness,

Done

and turn off things when you don't need them (bluetooth, wifi when out, use wifi calling at home, etc).

Done

Results for anker today:

Comments:

First charge so many people claim that it gets better over the time

Still slightly better then stock battery, but I wouldn't call it a massive difference

I'm almost sure that I was so tired in the morning that I did not calibrated it, so will run for 5-7 days then calibrate and test again, again on the same setting to be sure that I get proper results

So far: I was impressed first day, but I actually never used stock battery so light but anyway 18 hours from 69% was shocking, today I am not impressed but it is too early to judge.

What do you think?
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I looked into stats and replacing battery looks exactly the same on them as charging with phone turned off! What a surprise! So it seems like it actually might not get confused by this! Probably we would need opinion of some developer here because I just give you my observations how it looks, but seems like in this case it should not get confused at all.

Also I am very happy about the way it works since i got Hypersensation and few days my friend have been barging about his I phone 4s and how fast doest it read PDF files, and showed me 100 mb pdf file, which was visibly lagging when zooming in or changing pages. I turned on my 307 mb chemistry PDF book and on underclocked processor (1080) it run so smooth that he was really surprised because it was clearly visible how much better it was on my device (not to mention better screen). So device which is twice cheaper works faster underclocked... well I am glad about it because PDF-s are one of the biggest reasons why I bought it.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Same again on this battery, if I leave it overnight it last really long, a soon as I start using it out drains battery as crazy. Seems like anyway I got better results then with stock battery but I never left my device unplugged overnight on stock so hard to compare really, will post screens any second.
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
Why not just keep it on charge overnight???
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
Wanted to go through 5 full cycles and simply battery want flat when I was going to bed. I'm not so sure at the moment is it such a good idea, with my usage I will drain it to 0 quite often anyway, so calibration will get there sooner or later. Anyway that proofs that you can probably get 48 hours on sensation, as long as you don't use it. Even on anker I am sure that with screen on I can drain it in 8 hours with underclocked processor. It is simply my heavy, if it will be hardware or software fault same would be happening overnight and it doesn't.
[HTC Sensation] marcos600rr:
I agree on battery life but speed i dont think so my wife have sgs2 from tmus root and everything done and i can say my sensation i way far faster you cant compare a device with a cm7 about 1**megabite size with a divice over 300 like sense ui in old times because we all now cm7 was faster but now sensation with sense ui can be faster than those diveces with sense ui thats my personal opinion dont take it the bad way just sharing with you mate
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
You are right to some extent, anyway since I use hypersensation I am delighted with speed, it is absolutely awesome. The only thing is still that terrible battery drain whenever I use it.
[HTC Sensation] marcos600rr:
I have read in other threat that evo 3d batt gives it the way ill try with my bestfriend evo spare batt to see what happens
[HTC Sensation] undercover:
You are probably right, probably heavier user than you realised ;)

I don't fanatically follow 100-0 cycles, if it dies, i put it on charge and take it off in the morning. If it still has some juice left, I put it on charge and take it off in the morning ;)
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I think we both worry too much about it, no full cycles will impact stats too many will impact battery life, so probably ignoring it completely and doing it the way you doing is best way, if it dies you get better calibration if it don't you get better battery life.

Except some extreme situations I'm sure that probably system tricks and tweaks are best way to get good battery life.
[HTC Sensation] CdTDroiD:
I cant believe this is still going lol. My wife has been using my Sensation for the last week or so running my 3.5 rom on stock kernel after 1 day, 8 hours she is on 36% with 54mins of screen time. You just need to find the right setup. Kernel has more to do with battery life than ROM does so just find the right setup and you will be fine.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I agree, after my experience with leaving it overnight I am sure I can reach48 hours even now.... I will just have to use it less. So trying additional things like different kernel, undervolting screen and processor, installing juice defender and few more tricks can get me to 16-18 hours heavy use or 48+ hours light use.

At the moment I don't see this being reasonable. I do not experiment anymore because I want to fully test anker batteries on same configuration as I done on stock battery to check is there really a difference that people claim there is, but I got now 3 batteries and if I reach 10 hours on one with current settings then I'm ok with it, specially that carrying second battery with me is not as inconvenient as I expected it to be. I think after few more days with testing I will actually apply autobrightness again to try how long can it survive, because such a low brightness is annoying if you live in dark north east England.

Those are my yesterdays anker results:

From my experience this is at least 10% better then stock battery and that was extremely heavy use yesterday with 5 hours screentime. I am sure that stock battery would not survive that.
[HTC Sensation] Vipeout:
Pathetic how negative posts about the Sensation systematically get downvoted here.

Anyways, I noticed that with AOSP ROMs my battery drains faster. Best results I have with latest InsertCoin and stock Kernel. However, performance wise it is the same everywhere. No ROM really makes this phone feel dualcore

---------- Post added at 02:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:38 PM ----------

I have 2 Anker batteries and I keep the second one always in this antistatic bag/foil that they came in. Usually replace the battery when it's down to 15%. But this only happens when I do heavy gaming on the device, otherwise I have about 50% left by the evening when I come home, but that is with slight use only.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
I do the same but today I dropped my battery when I was getting things out of my pocket and few days ago I found moisture around it after cycling in the rain, next time I will move it to raincoat pocket with my phone.
[HTC Sensation] leyus:
OK Those are today results, I'm not sure is there any point on keep on uploading more. You can see that anker preforms 10-30% better on heavy use then stock battery. Do you want me too keep on posting screens for few more days or is that enough? Because I clearly did not changed anything in my system since I bought anker to get as objective results as possible but now I would like to check CPU profiles, go back to autobrightness as 23% is so annoying and I would like few other roms a specially so recommended insertcoin. So if you guys ok with results of my little battery experiment and think I done good job I wouldn't mind finishing it.

To summarize my experience:

Positive changes:

- I was very upset with my device and was ready to sell it when I started this thread

- slowly I fixed most of the problems

- I got now amazing ROM a and I do like speed, functionality, performance and bugfree hypersensation ROM

- I like the way my device deals with pdf fills which was one if the most important aspects for me

-carrying two batteries around is not as uncomfortable as I expected it to be

Things that I still find annoying:

- touchscreen bug - I know I fixed it, but whenever aluminium foil moves inside my phone it is back and I need to open it and move it, also I am afraid it might get worst with time

- battery life - after trying 4 different roms, applying many tricks and tweaks, removing all vibrations animations etc, limiting some synchronization, decreasing brightness , underclocking processor, buying anker battery and many other solutions which I mentioned earlier I still have not reached my target which was 16 hours with 3 hours screentime, disappointing. A specially that i consider some of those solutions inconvenient, and everything else i can try is even more inconvenient. Carrying two batteries solves it but at the end of the day it is still disappointing.
[TouchPad General] huskers15:
Dalingrin tweeted touchpad ics updates coming soon hopefully!
[TouchPad General] dajogejr:
Source link? (Sorry for being lazy..)
[TouchPad General] Argent36:
https://twitter.com/#!/dalingrin

ta da
[TouchPad General] crump84:
Yep, looking forward to it :D
[TouchPad General] Antebios:
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

I was dreaming about ICS for the TouchPad, but it looks like they've hit a wall.
[TouchPad General] Adonis K.:
Relax, the guys in the CM team are really good at what they are doing, just because they hit a wall doesn't mean they wont get past it.
[TouchPad General] Krunk_Kracker:
And then he posted this right after.

https://twitter.com/#!/dalingrin/status/142121819024007168

I'm sure they'll get around it of course, but it may slow them down. I R EXCITE.

Anyone have a link to their project page regarding ICS and the Touchpad?
[TouchPad General] The Jack of Clubs:
ics on the nook is the tablet version. :O i was really worried we would have an improper phone version again. now im all excited and stuff.
[TouchPad General] Adonis K.:
isnt ICS suppose to be unified (tablet + phone in 1)?
[TouchPad General] BaT420:
oh god i can't wait for sexy sexy ICS on my touchpad.
[TouchPad General] The Jack of Clubs:
not quite. the ui elements are layed out differently and you can get proper tablet apps.
[TouchPad General] hki_peter:
Still no body can confirm that HP Touchpad ICS project on process........:(
[TouchPad General] Adonis K.:
then what exactly is this?

https://twitter.com/#!/dalingrin/status/142119964713824256

:rolleyes:
[TouchPad General] hki_peter:
That is it official news from Developers ?
[TouchPad General] Adonis K.:
yep, nothing more official than this
[TouchPad General] hki_peter:
May I ask who is Erik Hardesty ? :p
[TouchPad General] Sine.:
It's dalingrin, the main developper of CM7 for our TouchPad (among other projects)

A little bit of reading here or of his twitter would have give you the answer directly ;)