yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
We'll get it one way or another, I've a feeling quite strongly on that. May not be from SamSprint it may be, but time will tell.

And yeah, the Vibrant Captivate and Fascinate all have source ports currently which are working quite well, have small issues but that is a natural occurence. Our processor is supported within the Galaxy Nexus kernel, so it's always a matter of time. However, they're all rolling on MTD for the partition space iirc(Or just the fascinate and Jt's port correct me if I'm wrong please lol). Which means with MTD on CM7 we're going into the right direction.

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
You are absolutely right. I know that we have developers as part of this community that will most definitely give us ICS assuming that they have what they need (which we pretty much know that they do/will).

What I should have said was an OFFICIAL ICS from SamSprint.
[Epic 4G General] rbjem:
I would not complain if Sammy is giving us ics for Christmas... (Christmas 2012 that is)
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
We JUST got 2.3, I don't know why people are assuming this new build is anything other than 2.3.6. Just more rumors waiting to get way out of hand.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
What else do we have to talk about? Is it likely we'll get ICS? Of course not. Can we hope? Why not.
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
Yeah but before you know it, that's all we'll hear about for the next 12 months... EK23 "ICS" :(
[Epic 4G General] tony45x220:
If they're still working on updates...**** they might as well give us the damn ice cream sandwich!

Sent from my rooted, suited, & booted Epic 4G #knowdat!
[Epic 4G General] Blad3:
does anyone remember how long before the TP2 was put on the EOL list? I mean before the epic came along, I was rocking that phone for quite a bit.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I had one of those, still do. I think I stayed around because it was their only "world phone", plus it had a great keyboard.
[Epic 4G General] GRK4G63:
Woohoo!! MOAR UPDATEZ, PLEEZ!

LOLZ...In Soviet Russia, Gingerbread update YOU! :D
[Epic 4G General] caileb:
I had one and hated the display. Went through 3 of 'em in less than a year due to the rainbow banding.

Still rocking my Epic and its been over a year.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
EK30 RDF is up. At least they are still paying attention to us! Maybe this one is without CIQ.....har har
[Epic 4G General] darkierawr:
The link says EK30, but still directs to the EK23 one.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
have all the out of hand conversations!!!!!!

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FE08, anyone?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
They have typos all the of time. Sprint gets lazy with our RDF pages.
[Epic 4G General] xopher.hunter:
Made my night :)
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
The link isn't right lol. The name is changed but it still goes to EK23, just change the link once you get to EK23's page to EK30.:)
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
2.3.6 still?

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES phone, running "two.three.five"
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
Mhmmm. As the Android version. I'm just curious, for it to be a maintenance after having EI22 months on their side seems very odd, but oh well. We'll see in time.

Samsung confirmed Galaxy S international would be getting ICS, they said that bit of information on the 17th, and our RDF's started again on the 23rd, food for thought.
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
"Because the more you know... :D" *insert the thought of a cheesy smile and extended arms here*
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
I dont think that they will update the US varients to ICS for the sole purpose that most Americans with galaxy s phones use it for texting and playing games only. ICS would just confuse them... I am american and am in no way trying to insult america, just giving my opinion. Most people with the epic probably dont even know what any android version is...
[Epic 4G General] tigerknight:
Correction: Most people with

cell phones

don't really know what any OS version means. Apple makes it easier on their users by at least having a clear sequential naming pattern. Ask any one of them what the difference between current and next-gen phone OS and you'll get about the same intelligent ratio as Android users - pretty slim, but at least they know they're on the latest because 5 is greater than 4. Froyo vs ICS? um.. what?
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Hm I got $5 on Samsung repeating previous tries at this. They'll build 2.3.6 half way scrap it then start on ICS woo hoo! Lol I wish :)

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
That'd be awesome!

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES phone, running "two.three.five"
[Epic 4G General] quick99si:
The TP2 was a bit of an oddball because it was the sole full keyboard device with easy integration with corporate email at the time. More importantly, I think, it was kept "in life" because it was a quad-band device for those who travel overseas.

The TP2 guys migrated mainly to the Epic, which appears the end of the line for now. I'm probably going to pick up the iPhone in the next couple of days because I don't expect any keyboard devices until late next year, and the Epic Touch is still dealing with LOS.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Not gonna happen. Samsungs trend for the US Galaxy S series is Europe gets it first (no Touchwiz) then it spreads to the UK and Canada, then 8 months later they figure out how to make it work on the stupid Touchwiz phones. So Xmas 2012 would be a close date IF it ever was gonna happen.
[Epic 4G General] BubZX:
Its probly just a keyhoard skip fix and a gps fix. They released EI22 so the great devs here could figure out what they couldn't then samsung will put out a maintnance release tryin to play the heros by letting someone else fix there screw ups for them.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
What? All Galaxy S phones have TouchWiz. All of them.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
How are European or Asian phone owners any different?
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
-_-

Here we go again!
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
Lol it just seems like the same people who said GB was never going to come are doing the same for ICS, patience is key haha, if comes cool, if not oh well. We'll have it one way.

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] murso74:
i feel 2 major updates is enough... dont' really care about ICS to be honest. well on my touchpad i do but i'd rather get a rock solid GB then anything
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Haha, you noticed that too? These people who

guaranteed

we wouldn't get a whiff of official GB. Maybe making predictions should be a hobby they shelf for a bit.

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They make unicorns and rainbows with their phone. Very data intensive. We Americans haven't caught on yet. :p
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Zander noticed too, I just didn't wanna say it lol
[Epic 4G General] Specialksg1:
Isn't it obvious?? 2.3.6 is ACTUALLY 4.3.6 Licorice and will activate the supersecret LTE chip and convert our micro USB into minimicroHDMI ... I heard looneyrat has an advance copy ;)
[Epic 4G General] caileb:
Hahaha

Maybe I should unblock him so I can get an advanced copy!
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Still wouldn't be worth it in the long run.
[Epic 4G General] GrStead123:
I honestly didn't see what the big deal with Gingerbread was. Stability? Battery life? I really never had any issues with Froyo. Only reason I wanted Gingerbread was for MIUI. As for EK23/30 or whatever, I wouldn't expect this to actually be released. And I'll be shocked as hell if we do get ICS.
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
I wouldn't be, its not their obligation to deliver ics, but as for the ek23 and ek30 rdfs and future rdfs to come, they'll get released eventually, there wouldn't be any point to release an rdf if it wasn't going to get worked on. Gingerbread brought hardware acceleration by the way, its a big plus to froyo. I do agree Froyo was pretty stable

Unless Samsung/Sprint officially announces the discontinuation of support for the Samsung Epic 4G, then the updates should keep on coming, even if Touchwiz is a slowing barrier. As long as you see that Epic 4G on Sprint's website, sit tight knowing there's still life on your Epic. They changed the Epic's "Shipped Version" from 2.1 to 2.3. It's only good business if they could make it "4.0" for their future customers who want a keyboard phone to buy the epic.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
An rfd file means that Sprint is actually testing the rom on Epics. I can't believe that they would waste their resources testing developing and testing a rom if they don't intend to release an update. I think it's too soon to expect any work on an ICS rom, but a bug fix release for gingerbread doesn't surprise me at all.
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
I find Gingerbread much snappier than Froyo was.
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
Froyo was total rubbish for me. Constant FCs and soft reboots ans my phone lagged and froze a lot. On GB, my phone is buttery smooth and fast with stability. Froyo was a bad experience for me. Even if these are just maintenance updates, it means official support is NOT DEAD on our Epics.
[Epic 4G General] Looneyrat:
Yup. froyo almost ruined it for me.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I thought the i9000 did not...my bad. So why didn't i9000 GB work on Captivate, Fascinate and those others without keyboard that still don't have GB?
[Epic 4G General] gerrym:
;)

Got to wish there was a 'real' LTE chip in this phone... Sprint says they are ditching WiMax and going "LTE" with a lot of new equipment... how do you ever know where the truth is?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
They are building an LTE network and will continue supporting Wimax for sometime after. Mid 2012 they will "flip the switch" for the LTE network. Wimax will still be available probably through 2013.
[Epic 4G General] Gavisann:
I thought the contract with Clearwire was until 2015. I can't find the article.

Found it. The last paragraph of this article.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
They may look similar to the i9000, but our phone is probably the closest Galaxy S variant to the original.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I was guessing. Figured it would be longer plus they own 51% of Clearwire.

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So why did they have to mod the GB software and test so much to get it working on our phones? GB was on European Galaxy S phones 8 months ago? If they really all have Touchwiz then if one Galaxy S gets ICS they all will. I don't think they will though. They left these out of the official written list.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Not true. For example, for ics, the other galaxy s series can use each others kernel sources slightly modified without too much difficulty. We can't because ours is hacked up and very different from the others.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Not true. if one gets ics, then they all HAVE POTENTIAL to lol. There's still differences between the phones lol

Its kinda like how you can't flash a rom made for the mytouch3g 32a variant if you have the mytouch3g 32b variant. They're almost exactly the same phone, but there's just enough of a difference to force you to have to mod some things to get something to work from one on to the other..
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
True but the point is there has been no official announcement by Samsung for ICS on the Galaxy S. They have said it will be on the GSII. If they decide to go with it on the Galaxy S series then all will get it but by the time it hits the US Galaxy S phones officially we will all be on new phones with LTE. Any phone running Gingerbread is capable of running ICS. It is just if the manufacturer plans on putting in the effort.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Mi

Well, samsung is getting better. We could've had a slightly older 2.3.x version in july/august but then they updated and that is what really delayed us. Had it not been for that, we mightve had gb only 3 months after i9000.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
ED12 had to have been the buggiest software on the planet lol

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES phone, running "two.three.five"
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
And let's not forget all those dropped calls and random reboots from the fun leaks after that.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Ed12 was in april. The egxx and ehxx builds were in july and august and those were pretty stable.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I know. ED12 was the first GB leak, and was just 2.3 which is what the guy I quoted was talking about lol
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
My post originally was incorrect. I said we could've had 2.3.0 in july or august, but they were already on 2.3.3 or maybe 2.3.4. The point still stands though.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Those leaks were plagued with random reboots, dropped calls, a crippled browser, batteries cooking in no signal areas...etc. Hardly a stable release candidate.
[Epic 4G General] Dsparil:
Feature wise, our Epics is the closest to the original by having a Front Facing Camera; however, hardware wise, ours is most different.

1. CDMA Radios

2. Wimax 4G Radio

3. Different GPS hardware

4. Hardware Keyboard

5. Reduced Internal Memory

6. LED Flash

To tell you the truth, our Epic 4G was the most complete Android phone within the era of the iPhone 4 launch and it was the only phone to match and exceed the iPhone 4 feature by feature with the exception of screen resolution, but the clear Super AMOLED made up for it.

The Evo 4G lacked a good graphics chip, and the Droid X and other Galaxy variants lacked the front facing camera.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
EL07 rdf posted on sprint's website.

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EL07.rdf
[Epic 4G General] lepapirriky:
They are playing with our feelings....lol
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
The original gs had flash...we're the only US variant with it though...and WiMax should be considered as a complimentary add on ;) I don't think I would've got this phone if it didn't have 4g...this was the first phone where I didn't feel like there's anything important missing...

Like you said with the evoos graphics and the no ffc on virtually everyother phone coming out at that time.

I still see no viable upgrade. Even the gsii simply because I find it unacceptable to still have the same resolution as the gs1, regardless of the added green sub-pixel (rofl I love seeing people justify the screen by saying that when in reality they know the screen should've been bumped up pixel-wise).

The quad-cores should change my mind tho...although I wish phones would be dual-core exclusive and make the tablets reserved for the quads...that would give areason to actually own an android tablet.
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Another one??

Someones trolling at sprint rofl they know we be looking at the website.
[Epic 4G General] Blad3:
I could have done without the 4g. You know how pimp this phone would have been on my sero $30 plan? *drools*
[Epic 4G General] quick99si:
Google, sir, knows how to get that done ;)
[Epic 4G General] mikeregister:
Hmmm a new RDF every Wednesday. I'm guessing we will see EL14 next week.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Wow, nice catch! I didn't notice that
[Epic 4G General] ugothakd:
ESN! ESN! /me calls xda police

sent from my always aosp epic
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
They're really on a role here eh? Maybe they're close to having GB in a state where it'd be ready to merge with ICS Source.. I mean if I were Sprint, I'd push Samsung to give me ICS on the Epic, just to make it the first phone with Keyboard to be running ICS. (Thus refreshing it as a Flagship Phone) maybe they're making for lost ground? None the less, I like where these RDF's are headed..
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Noo. I think Samsung wants its phones to get ICS, it wants to have a good reputation, but Sprint has to give them permission to upgrade their devices. Sprint would say no because, why would it want to spend time and money on upgrading an old device when they could just EOL it and get people to buy newer phones. I do really wish they fix our sources and maybe switch to non proprietary drivers though, but that's wishful thinking. :p

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
The average non-rooting user that bought this phone for the keyboard doesn't know or care about ICS. They probably won't upgrade unless there is another keyboard phone which is fine with me if they have plans for a keyboard phone in the LTE era mid 2012.
[Epic 4G General] socos25:
From what I know of the cellular business they don't make money off the phones, although if a new phone will get you to sign a new contract then I'm sure that helps
[Epic 4G General] rando991:
Yeah, you are right about that. Less overhead on older phones.
[Epic 4G General] gerrym:
Here here!! Sprint's 'rollout' of LTE can't get here fast enough for me. At this point with Sprint dumping 'premier' (thanks Sprint...) when I reach the end of my current contract (after 10+ years with them) I hope Verizon with their blazing 4G has a keyboard phone at the ready.... :D
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thay have the Stratosphere, a Galaxy S based phone thats basically an Epic clone on verizon. Different processor though i think.
[Epic 4G General] caileb:
I thought they both had the Cortex A8?
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
No. Same processor. 1ghz hummingbird.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Cortex a8 is a type. Ex:htc and samsung both used to use cortex a8, but htc used snapdragon and samsung used hummmingbird. So that doesn't mean they're the same.
[Epic 4G General] gerrym:
If holding out lasts for me... a dual core would be my choice. WHO knows what April 2012 will bring? :D
[Epic 4G General] poit:
And EL09 rdf appears on the interwebs.http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EL09.rdf
[Epic 4G General] tdwp16:
I wonder why they are posting new builds
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
maybe fix the wifi issue of it disconnecting :rolleyes: , random reboots (i haven't had any...)

Other fixes? :confused:
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Or the wifi issue of it continuously scanning after connected.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I suspect that when they released GB they knew it still had a few bugs, but had it stable enough for the general public and wanted to do something to appease us geeks. They are now stomping out the last few bugs.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
maybe activate the fm radio or video out????
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
Maybe it is ICS in disguise??? lol
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Ok, for some reason, I thought the processor was different.

/sig
[Epic 4G General] fami:
Consider, gentlemen, the enormous todo in the media about CIQ and the related fuss about it on capitol hill. My guess is that they are preparing a GB build free of CIQ so Samsprint can wash their hands of the entire affair.

Granted, they'll probably just introduce CIQ-lite or some other metrics rootkit that's just as invasive but more innocuous in appearance.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Yes that is also an issue!!! :eek:
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
Something of a legal nature must have Samsung's attention because this is just crazy, the Samsung dev team is actually doing something.

I mean just think...Samsung actually supporting their devices??!

Crazy ****.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I'm hoping they fix these random reboots. Although, idk if we can call them random anymore, as they seem to happen during things like charging with wifi on, etc.

/sig
[Epic 4G General] poit:
I had that same thought so I've been watching the diagnostics line in the rdf. It hasn't changed since EI22:

DiagnosticsProtocolVersion 1.1.0 DiagnosticsClientVersion 3.2.13 DiagnosticsClientVendor CIQ
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Meh never had hard reboots with EI22, so its only a small group of people that must be experciening this

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G General] poit:
This is pretty much the same thing that happened when Froyo came out. They released EB13, it had issues, then they released a debugged EC05 a month later. I wouldn't expect any new features or changes, just bug fixes.
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
I do believe we have fixes in the works. Hallelujah!!!

mind blown. we have missed a lot apparently:)

DF14

DF21

DG06

DG16

DG17 (official)

DG23

DG27 (official)

DI07 (official)

DI18 (official)

DK22

DK28

DL11

DL15

EA07

EA16

EA18

EB09

EB13 (official)

EB20

EB28

EC05 (official)

ED12

EE03

EF02

EF10

EG22

EG29

EH04

EH05

EH06

EH17

EI05

EI07

EI22 (official)

EK23

EK30

EL07

EL09

Is that a historically accurate RDF list? Or did I miss some :P
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Looks good to me! Lol. That's a lot of builds...
[Epic 4G General] xopher.hunter:
It missed ed12, it was actually the first leaked gb with no 4g
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
Oh... And by the way, GO NOLES! Lol as a fan had to do that
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Sorry for being off topic...

Yay! Another fsu fan... yeah as a grad I have to represent the garnet and gold wherever I go!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Except that EC05 did bring a "feature" with it. Sprint iD. Not that we kept it, just saying. There might be something cool tucked away in the next releases.

/sig
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
And EB13 was actually pulled. EI22 was not.
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
Wow. Just went through all the RDF files. There have been 79 builds? Holy crap:

DE17

DE24

DF07

DF14

DF16

DF21

DF28

DF30

DG06

DG12

DG16

DG17

DG23

DI03

DI07

DI18

DJ18

DJ22

DJ29

DK05

DK13

DK17

DK22

DK28

DL11

DL15

DL16

DL17

DL29

EA07

EA16

EA17

EA18

EA30

EB01

EB07

EB09

EB13

EB17

EB20

EB28

EC05

ED12

EE03

EE12

EE19

EF02

EF10

EF16

EF29

EG03

EG07

EG14

EG22

EG29

EG30

EH02

EH03

EH04

EH05

EH06

EH11

EH13

EH17

EH18

EI01

EI02

EI03

EI04

EI05

EI06

EI07

EI09

EI21

EI22

EK23

EK30

EL07

EL09
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
they love me. they really love me...
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
Glad to know? Lol. So I think we can all stop the Sprint bashing. They aren't timely or graceful, but they have obviously been trying.
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Now if only they would hire developers like we have here at xda they might actually get something stable out in a timely fashion!
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
Then we could go from "I hope they know what they're doing!" To "now we're cooking with thermite!"
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
Yeah and if only Sprint actually did the software upgrades your "Sprint bashing" might have made some sense...
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Can you blamee them for not upgrading to something unstable! I mean really come on... I know froyo nor gingerbread are completely stable but the "official" releases were way more so than any of the builds that weren't officially released! Would you put out a half assed product to make your company look bad if you weren't the original builder of the said product. No I did not think so!
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
I've never heard anyone on XDA
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
oops lol. I've never seen anyone on XDA ***** and moan about Samsung. They either push it onto sprint, or "samsprint". Never Samsung. So yes. Sprint bashing. no it wasn't a mistake, or an accident. I personally think they could work a little harder to provide support to our device.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
That's cool.

Just because most people are misinformed doesn't make it whatever they're misinformed about true.

The carrier is always the one to take the heat because people idea with the directly.

I'm sure there are plenty of people, on xda and abroad that believe that the carriers actually make the devices too.

Fact is, Samsung is responsible for the software upgrades, Sprint just tests em.

HTC never seems to have an issue getting em done quick.

Just Samsung. Always Samsung.

Across all carriers.

There's also no such thing as "Samsprint"