yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G General] G.I.Geoff:
You just added that sprint decided to do extra testing on a builds simply because it was for this phone. After ONE build being pulled. Not for bugs, but because it lacked Sprint ID. And because SPRINT held back an software update that a hardware manufacturer certified for its OWN HARDWARE, for a total of six Weeks, yet somehow that falls on Samsung? What the hell? Are you thinking straight?
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
Seriously?

This again?

The holding and further testing was just a theory, but one that makes sense especially given the fact that the other manufacturers had otas pushed in those six weeks

And one build being pulled is a big deal.

Furthermore, the eb13 update was not just pulled to add sprint id, as I showed with three different links.

You guys keep trying to pick apart the discussion with these little arguments while ignoring the overall point.
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
Sprint is probably treating samsung like the red headed step child to get even for the Moment
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
lol and how do you explain the other carriers delays with just Samsung device updates?

This has just become absurd.

"I wanna believe it, no matter what the truth is!"
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Actually not. But since I am talking to you I'll type slowly. Other that the reason EB13 got pulled what {acts of mine have you debunked. Show me proof that it takes the morons at Sprint hours to turn down a build but 6 weeks to approve it. I didn't know you were Dan Hesse in disguise. If you hate Samsung so much that you would defend Sprint sooo much then do us all a favor and get an HTC.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
What other carriers? There is only ATT and T Mobile left without GB.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
Exactly...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#In_the_United_States

Verizon's JUST received it on December 1st.

Sprint's well you know...

Are you really missing how this is proving my point? :confused:
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I cant believe you guys are still going at this. Kenny, matt. Take a break lol. Kenny, help in legendary rom thread, matt, go answer some q&a. It doesnt even matter who's right.
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
I've read all of this, and glad I wasn't part of it from the beginning. Lol. I'd only like to add this.

Samsung released Gingerbread for the Galaxy S Variant for U.S. Cellular, and I can confirm that it is the U.S. carrier holding back the update.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
U.s. cellular pushed the EH09 OTW via their web page for those who wanted it.

August 30th.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...y-mesmerize-gingerbread-update-now-available/

All that likely means is they were sick of waiting on Samsung.

Especially since it wasn't a "final build"
[Epic 4G General] :
Huh? Sick of waiting for Samsung ? How can they be sick of waiting for the person who gave them the build to publish
[Epic 4G General] TexasLTE:
I still hold to the theory that kennyglass was the REAL reason for the hold up of Gingerbread ! ...... LOL ( just kiddin' ) ..... seriously though guys , doesn't really matter who was holding back on official release = we have GB now and our current DEVs are working some pretty good magic , and kenny says some GB Bonsai is in the oven , so let us PLEASE leave the arguing alone already and get back to helping out each other = PEACE ! ;)
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
For further, and final, build(s)...?

EH09 was one of the builds before EI22. (The official release for all carriers, well except u.s. cellular)
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
EI22 is only for us.

EH09 is only for the US cellular one.

They don't all have the same build number.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
Boom. This.

Mattykins is freaking clueless.
[Epic 4G General] :
And boom goes the dynamite
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
And both of you aren't helping this situation.

Honestly, why does it matter who held up the updates?

Sure, I got caught up trying to prove my point, but now I see it was really a pointless battle.

Now, this is a thread about rdf pages, and as the title in on EL09, please keep all further discussion on topic.
[Epic 4G General] mattykinsx:
Ah, that makes sense but the build number still means the same.

It was built on August 9, same day one of our builds was.

Since its for the same phone its logical that same build to have about the same contents.

But this is neither here nor there.

Doesn't change anything that's been discussed.

So do you do anything around here or is it just nonsense insults and so forth?

If you dislike me so much, please, for both of our sakes, put me on ignore
[Epic 4G General] JohnCorleone:
It was my fault. Just blame me. I have thick skin. What up Epic family!
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Z take your own advice and don't even respond to him. He ignores evidence and data and skews arguments to his own needs and the one little bit of data he gets from rumors. He knows nothing about builds, date codes or how the testing is done. Add to that he can be obnoxious and rude at times and incites people to anger and name calling because he makes no sense.

---------- Post added at 09:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:37 AM ----------

Matt please PM me and we can discuss it further in private if you like.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Actually, I think you're slightly confused on the build number thing.

We didn't have an EH09, we did have an EH06, and EH17.

Also, our phone is quite different than the one on us cellular.

So, there builds aren't interchangeable with ours.

And I don't dislike you, I just enjoy making sure people know what they're talking about.

And most of his posts are insults.

/sig
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
But we love you John!!

Edit: stupid merge failing...
[Epic 4G General] TexasLTE:
***JohnCorleone was PROBABLY testing it 4 sure ( he tests EVERYTHING ) , but I doubt HE was the reason 4 delay ;) ***
[Epic 4G General] Looneyrat:
Wtf!only thing broken in ei22 is gps right? Everything else works. Why so many revisions? But I'll take updates anytime. Im stable at 1.5ghz, so gb is awesome!
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Looneybin...I mean looneyrat is back!!!!! I thought he/she got banned
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Only temporarily disabled.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Wifi continuously scans even though connected to a network and notification of open network is unchecked. GPS was intentionally reduced to conserve battery so not broken. And very few bunch are still getting reboots but don't know if there are many on pure stock having that problem. Plus there is an upgrade to 2.3.6 whatever that means for the Epic.
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
Kudos to Samsprint to keep working on our epics! Anyone talk to samfirmware? Maybe we could get the latest leak?
[Epic 4G General] A_Flying_Fox:
Don't mind austin, he used to be helpful till he took an arrow to the knee.
[Epic 4G General] :
Lol, skyrim
[Epic 4G General] Looneyrat:
Was it u that reported me? The dwelling vampire swears it want him.
[Epic 4G General] Looneyrat:
Lol.

I heard the arrow missed your knee. Buy bullseyed your vag. Lol.

Vag armor. Get some.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Please keep it civil and somewhat on topic guys.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thank you, OP.
[Epic 4G General] b16flybye:
Yes, please stay on topic. Who cares who banned you looney. I go through forums and I see people pissed off at you, and I'm sure its for certain reasons.
[Epic 4G General] conantroutman:
Wow, some amount of trolls and OT crap in this thread. :rolleyes:

On topic or GTFO.....

Less if the petty bickering and point scoring too please.

If you kiddies can't play nice then don't play at all......

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......
[Epic 4G General] conantroutman:
Seriously!???

What part of my last post did you not understand?

In what way was I vague about not posting OFF TOPIC CRAP?

Better luck next time....

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......
[Epic 4G General] lilajrestnom:
so sprint is working on a new gb for the epic

But its not known when it'll b ready and what there working on exactly?? But its still better than ei22

Anyway I just wanted to ask what the links r really supposed to be cuz when I open any of them I get a bunch of letters and stuff..
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
They basically are documentation of the addition of new builds. There's not necessarily anything other than build numbers and Android versions to gather from it.

Sent from my Epic 4G
[Epic 4G General] b16flybye:
Oh, sorry Dad. Didn't know your last post was directed strictly towards me. Soooo, staying on topic, is there any updates on the newest EL09?
[Epic 4G General] poit:
All it tells us is that there are new test builds floating around. There is information describing what's in the build, but that's often inaccurate. What you can infer from this is that there WILL be another firmware release for the epic, and it's not being ignored by Sam/Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Or just a maintenance release depending on how much is altered.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
It appears to be Android 2.3.6. It's not likely to be ICS so I guess you could call any additional GB release a maintenance release.

I've added a basic explaination for what these files are to the OP.
[Epic 4G General] Specialksg1:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#2.3.4

Would this answer the "what is this update going to be?" question?
[Epic 4G General] Mutiny32:
They should keep their builds up with the Nexus S 4G sources, which I believe is at 2.3.7. I don't understand why they are so afraid of re-basing to small incremental bug-fix builds from Google. It's not likely to break anything; only fix things. And yet, they keep building on out-dated sources with known issues already fixed by Google.
[Epic 4G General] Specialksg1:
2.3.7 would do nothing for our phones because we don't have the chip to use our phones like a credit card. So they are probably gonna finish up the 2.3.6 testing and I would imagine that will be the final "official" release for the epic 4G ... at least untill CM goes official ;)
[Epic 4G General] poit:
The 2.3.7 build just adds google wallet support. No big deal and not applicable to our phones.
[Epic 4G General] Mutiny32:
Yeah, I didn't notice that until after I found the 2.3.7 changelog. But they did what I said with EI22, which was dumb really. Not to mention a waste of development resources on, say, ICS.
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
You can get microSd card with embedded NFC chip.

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
But will our phone support...I am guessing not unless they upgrade it to 2.3.7.
[Epic 4G General] Specialksg1:
Interesting ... very interesting ... :)
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
Do these nfc embedded sd cards have strorage also? Id hate to lose my 16 gigs.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
The release notes for 2.3.7 list wallet support specifically for the Nexus, I don't know if it's relevent or needed for these microsd NFC cards. I'm guessing the card supplier will need to provide an app that will work on any version of gingerbread.
[Epic 4G General] rmorrisonva:
And...

A microSD NFC card (if it worked) would mean no SD storage... I cant live on the what's it... 512MB of internal on the Epic and don;t know who would (especially just for NFC, which -- lets admit it -- is still in it's infancy as far as deployment). Sorry guys, just being real.
[Epic 4G General] JohnCorleone:
Maybe the next leak will have CIQ pulled altogether. Sammy sure went scrambling and got us a leak less than a week after official update...
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Nope, it combines both SD memory and an NFC chip, the way an Eye-Fi card combines Wifi and sd memory.

http://www.netcom-3c.com/news_20110627.htm
[Epic 4G General] poit:
EL20 rdf posted. (Still lists 2.3.6 as Android version and still lists CIQ as included.)

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EL20.rdf
[Epic 4G General] Gavisann:
Looks like they haven't forgotten us yet!
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Interesting on CIQ. Wonder if they'll continue to use it on early versions.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
We've seen other inaccuracies in the rdf files before; wrong android versions, etc. I think sometimes they just cut and paste stuff from one file to the next and forget to make changes. Just because they continue to list CIQ doesn't mean it's still there. If it disappears from the listing however, that would mean something.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
You'd think with the announcement, they'd want that one cut and pasted right.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
In an ideal world they would

/temporary sig
[Epic 4G General] poit:
If rdf files were created for public consumption I'd agree with you, but they are an internal document that for some reason gets posted publicly. I don't think they are too worried about what's in the file.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
True 10 char
[Epic 4G General] poit:
EL30 rdf posted:

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EL30.rdf

Still 2.3.6, but they have removed references to CIQ in this rdf.

Happy New Year!!
[Epic 4G General] Specialksg1:
LOL looks like someone at sprint is reading this thread! ;)
[Epic 4G General] Ex0d0s:
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/FA06.rdf
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Thanks, you beat me to it!
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
Its been stated by Sprint reps in SU forum that Sprint customers will receive updates that remove CIQ.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I looked for that at 2 in the morning central time and it wasn't there yet lol. I was too early /sadness..

We probably knew it before those reps is the sad thing rofl.
[Epic 4G General] Milkman00:
I hope they do more than just take out CIQ...
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Ill be a rumor spreader....

Korey says its gonna be ICS. There, I said it.

Sent from my Legendary 2.2 infused device.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
He has never been right so far, why start now. ICS theme or value pack as it is being called is still a maybe from Samsung sources.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
He updates his guesses when they're not true. He's like gb is coming out august. Then he says september. Then he says october. Then november. The thing is one of his guesses has to be right on those, so he has never made an accurate prediction from the getgo.

No disrespect though.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
With GB he was spot on until 2.3.5, then it took sprint forever past there due date(which is what Korey was giving us every time he gave us a new date) to release it. I don't think he is right about ICS though and I was only saying that here for fun. People can't be right 100% of the time.

Sent from something with a Ｋモ尺れモㄥ.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Sorry, you're disrespecting him. You didn't realize that he had correct dates for gb. They were DEADLINES but Samsung kept scrapping gingerbread versions and the DEADLINE was extended.

Not saying his prediction about ICS is true, but don't call him out on it either.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Wow, how could that even be possible? We haven't seen any hint of ICS work on any world versions of the original Galaxy series. How could there be an Epic version?

Edit....Wait a minute.,.....lookie here what SamMobile just posted...(no it's not a rom for us!)..

http://www.sammobile.com/2012/01/06/seems-like-samsung-has-started-tweaking-their-galaxy-s/

Quote:

"Is this Samsungs first answer on no ICS for I9000? Faceunlock hitting the Galaxy S on I9000XXJVU?

...................This firmware is based on Android 2.3.6., Samsung create this firmware on December 29."

Looks like they are trying to add some ICS features to 2.3.6 instead of a full upgrade to ICS. Perhaps that is what they meant by "value pack".

I wish we could get a leak of FA06!
[Epic 4G General] Beezer80:
Just do yourself a favor and flash the CyanogenMod and be done with it. :)

Who cares what Sprint is going to release.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Not my intention. I meant to say that it's not his fault at all. It's Samsung and Sprint pushing back the updates. Sorry, now that I read that it is really unclear. He makes his predictions, which are correct at first, but Samsung and Sprint just keep delaying the updates, which forces him to make new predictions.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
This isn't a thread about CM. Move on.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Sorry for sorta attacking you lol
[Epic 4G General] flastnoles11:
Not everybody likes cm7... to me it is overrated... what does it have that my fav tw roms don't have other than a massive amount of themes... I don't need 300 themes, I need one I like... I like cm7 but its not the end all be all of roms, sorry!
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
No themes here...I like plain and simple looking. I have been running CM7 since last weekend. And I would go back at all. Love all the new features, speed, and stability. Feels like I have a new phone all over again. No issues waiting for that LTE, 800smr, 1XA phone with a keyboard to come out.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
I love those magnificent 1-X robots!
[Epic 4G General] lilajrestnom:
Ok so all thesee rdfs mean that there working on another update for this phone already? And hopefully it'll be sometime soon??
[Epic 4G General] Mushmaster:
The only part that's obnoxious about his predictions is that he'd claim to be super plugged in/accurate. Wanted to be some sort of celebrity insider or something. But he was usually speculative/wrong.

It's the attitude that makes it disrespectable, IMO. Nexus prime anyone?
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
It isn't right to talk about another XDA user like that, I mean really? I know a good handful of you are 13-16 year olds, but please know nothing positive or productive will come from talking down on a member, accurate speculation or not. I saw his thread posting about FA06 being ICS, he was joking. A quick look at the ref would show you it's 2.3.6
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
2.3.6 has some bug fixes and now includes the CIQ removal as directed by Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I can't wait to see what gets built from it.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
FA31 rdf posted, January 31st for those who don't know the codes. Still shows as 2.3.6

What could they possibly be working on?

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/FA31.rdf
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
maybe modem?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Aren't some people still getting random reboots? I haven't since kernel source was released but some people still seem to have them.
[Epic 4G General] R3537L1F3:
I've had random lockups not reboots though. Maybe they fixing both? Or the infamous value pack we are and aren't getting.
[Epic 4G General] toadlife:
*facepalm*
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
If they are still working on them one of these better be ice cream Sammich

Lulz!! If were lucky
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Not gonna happen.....ever! Get CM9. We would never get ICS until a year after the i9000 got it.
[Epic 4G General] adamdelozier:
God I hope so. EL30 is abysmal so far...
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
We ain't getting crap from samsuck because of business politics and greed. The epicCM team has already given us free cm9. There not even paid to put this out!

Support our devs because they are making up for samsucks lack of interest in giving us ics!

The devs donate their time, we can donate with our wallets! Help them out!

http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-support-epic-cm.html
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Honestly eL30 has been the best modem I've seen yet. Maybe you should install it again or do efs clear
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Like a little cheese with that whine?

This phone is near end of life, it's over 18 months old.

We started out on Eclair, then got Froyo and Gingerbread. We were given 6 or 7 updates depending on how you count them. Count them.

DG27, DI07, DI18, EB13, (suspended) EC05, EI22, EL30. All included in the price of the phone. They are clearly still doing development for the phone since FA31 has appeared.

Please take your *****ing elsewhere.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Not to mention they were faster than the EVO's upgrades.
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
SERIOUSLY?

1. You should be lucky they are still doing development on this phone. I think Samsung has come a long way and are starting to follow the Apple model (and also by Google's vision) to support the phone with updates for at least 18 months after release. Come the end of this month (29 February 2012), it will be 18 months from the release date of 30 August 2010. So I think Samsung has done a good job by still doing development on our phones for at least 18 months, with the latest rdf that just came out.

2. I think Samsung is trying to correct its mistakes from the past with bad quality phones and even lack of support after the sale. The phones they have been producing have been getting incrementally getting better both in quality and durability. They are in a heated battle with Apple on multiple fronts, and the only way they can compete is to correct their past mistakes.

3. It may not be possible to give us ICS on our phones the way it is currently set up (BML with Touchwiz) due to space issue (based on what they say). Now converting it to MTD and removing TW, then yes it would be possible, but remember 99% of Epic users don't know what MTD is, and if they brick all those phones, that's a lot of almost 2 year old phones to replace. But if somehow Samsung does some sort of miracle and does either A. make ICS work on our phone with an official ROM or B. make Gingerbread with an ICS Value pack, then I will happily install it on our phone.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
I doubt its ics. The other people I know with this phone still have the os they got the phone with which is froyo. The majority of people don't care about updates. We are the 1% that does care.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
the os the phone came with was eclair 2.1 not froyo. Froyo came like a year later.
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
I'm just pissed that Samsung wrote off ics for the whole galaxy S line of phones. Yet here we are with an alpha of cm9 because of our awesome devs. I really don't think we thank them enough!

Thank them with your wallets and donate!
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
They didn't write it off. It wouldn't fit the standard of a stock release in BML (the default partition of the Epic.) CM9 is built on MTD. To convert all Epics to MTD is asking to have a ton of bricks. This is why you won't see anything official. I'd rather companies I invest in make wise choices rather than try to satisfy a small crowd at the risk of a massive cost. I didn't sit around cursing Dell that my old computer wasn't up to date enough to run Windows Vista or 7. I ran those when I got a new system that could handle them properly.
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
Thanks for clearing it up for me. Did marketing make that decision or engineering?

It just means that our devs are getting it done and they need our support!

The message is "Support Our Devs!!" They do great work and have wrung out one more update out this phone! The last few posters only see the negative in my message.

Sent from my epic 4g with cm9

Please help our devs by donating!
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
Well that post did come off reading as negative, especially calling Samsung "Samsuck" and saying they are not releasing an update because of greed and politics. There are reasons why they are probably not releasing ICS to our phones, namely the current limitations of our phone based on the current hardware and partition system. Like I said, Samsung has improved a lot lately and is probably the best Android manufacturer out there when it comes to being the most open, unrestrictive, and easiest to mod (not locked bootloaders, we can use Odin/Heimdall, some of the best hardware).

I agree the devs have done great work, and they should be fully supported, but let us not forget Samsung has also made great strides lately as well.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
The folks at Sam/Sprint are busy with something....here's FB01.rdf

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/FB01.rdf
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
What could they possibly be fixing that takes this long? Hmm

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Themselves

Sent From My Thugnificent SPH-D700 because its more than Magnificent
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
probably a less battery draining modem?