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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JayBeezy802:
Rooting, it self, doesn't really do anything. It gives you root access, but so long as you don't change anything in /system (system files) or go with a whole new rom you will still receive OTA software updates.

We both still have the same/similar question (with regards to Wallet Updates) though and I think the outlook is not good.

Since you installed this .APK (and used it), your Wallet-ID is now linked to your secure element. If you were to say flash the stock rom and wipe everything (App Data and the like) and reinstall this APK (Or if Google releases a VZW Wallet App), I don't think your secure element will accept the new Wallet-ID.

However while reading this thread, there have been people who have reinstalled Wallet using the APK (after doing the zip-method) and everything has worked out fine.

I hope someone can answer both of our questions.

Until I know about updates for the Wallet App, I plan on holding off.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 0mie:
Guess my account was disabled and I had to call compliance. They are closed , so I guess I have to wait until tomorrow. The guy said he didn't know why, but I had to call Shasta at a 303 number. Anybody run into this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shade21:
I flashed from different roms wiping beforehand and i was able to reinstall without issue. I think you should be fine. If anything your google wallet user id for the prepaid card ia tied to your google account so you wont lose that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] check12:
Shasta is amazing. Don't fret.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 0mie:
So you had to call her also? What was it about? I got worried because there is $600 in my Google Wallet and it was disabled, so I didn't want to miss out on using my money :/ lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] check12:
I had to call her because I was Canadian and my account was flagged for the amount I had added. Also, my pre-paid mastercard had "strange" info attached to it.

Are you American? How did you fund your account?

95% sure it's just because of the amount you have added. In the US, they have a "Know you customer" piece of legislation. Most probably, she just wants to know you are a human willing to call her. Most scammers will not do that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 0mie:
That makes sense, then I shouldn't have to worry. I left her a message before I had to go back to work. Hopefully she calls before I have to go back to work tomorrow afternoon, but I'll probably just call her before I go into work.

But yes, I am an American :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
maybe this helps a fellow gsm user that flashed the googlewalletfix_1.1R38v5_ICS_aok_galaxynexus.zip while in recovery just after flashing paul's roms and prior to first boot up >>>

i wanted to get back to oem and start over so i fastboot/flashed the factory images of ICL53F for maguro/yakju and then regained root from chainfire.

before doing so i saved a nandroid and called money network to insure my Google Debit Card # was noted with my IEMI and informed them i was doing a factory reset.

1. i removed all payment cards through the individual card's Wallet settings

2. then reset the Wallet app from master app settings

3. i uninstalled the app via root explorer

4. then deleted any remnants of /data/data/com.google.apps.walletetnfcrel

5. i performed the factory reset above and then flashed a new ROM (MoDaCo Kitchen custom bake Ir6/pre-8)

6. then side loaded the hacked Wallet APK and activated it with the same gmail used when first provisioning the Wallet

7. my Google Debit Card # was activated with the full/correct remaining balance

8. i set up a top-off Credit Card to load the Google Debit Card and was able to load funds

9. i then enrolled my Citi MasterCard and it verified and the full credit line was available to charge

10. i selected Google Debit Card as the default NFC payment method and tapped a PayPass purchase with no issues
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] check12:
Thanks for this. Can anyone else confirm this process works without resulting in the Secure Element Not Responding error?

Thanks again for all who have made progress on this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mseliga:
I know someone who works with First Data, the company who does consumer side support for Google Wallet. He told he spoke with Google who confirmed that the "bricking" of the nfc chip is known, and its somewhat intended at this point.

They are recommending that you uninstall the app till it's supported.

Also the check is now taking place after two reloads instead of three.

I'm just passing what I've heard.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EvanVanVan:
check? you mean where they lock your account until you call up?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mseliga:
He says your phone make a call to Google's server at the third reload. When it checked the IMEI I believe, it see's it's not a Nexus S and then locks that NFC chip.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biggiephat:
as long as you reinstall a backup and not install the apk everytime fresh there will be no problem.

I also HIGHLY doubt this is occuring.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mseliga:
Like I said, I'm just passing along what he told me. He says that the zip method and apk method will cause same result. I'll ask him tonight after work and see if I can get more detailed info on what he heard from Google.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dwang:
So you're saying if you clear the data on google wallet or do a complete wipe 2/3 times, wallet will lock you out of the nfc chip on the next wallet install?

Is this correct?

If true that's not good as I've already re-registered w google Wallet a couple of times after doing a complete wipe because I was trying out a couple of new roms.

Just checked my Gmail archives and I've registered w google wallet 3 times. I'm guessing if I wipe and re-register again I'm going to get locked out of my nfc chip if what you are saying is correct.

Edit: if somebody has registered w google wallet more than 3 times please comment on whether you've been locked out of wallet or the nfc chip.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EvanVanVan:
By reload you mean adding money to the Google card right? I only deposited $20 the first time, now I'm nervous to try and deposit anymore... I wonder if using the Citi MasterCard gets around that?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Man_Utd:
I got it after one reload.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lukegb:
Sorry I haven't been replying - I'm on holiday. I'll catch up when I get home, I promise!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HooloovooUK:
Well I decided to risk it :D

Stock 4.0.1 on T-Mobile UK, unlocked and rooted.

No issues with the .apk. Starts up and runs, no force closes yet.

I'm using "MarketEnabler", the one by rac with the green "ME" logo. I couldn't get "Market Enabler" by For2w to work. It would just hang at 0% when trying to change the market.

GW started up and I've got the free $10. Haven't tried to make any purchases yet.

I'm not intending to change ROMs any time soon, so hopefully by the time I come to install a custom ROM it will all be figured out how to not brick the secure element. Hell, maybe even by then GW will actually be officially released in the UK!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miasma:
In my research, I have not ruled out this possibility. If you reinstall wallet without restoring the data, there is definitely a call to the "C2DM" registration server. It sends up your "android id" which is not your IMEI, but is unique to the device for the lifetime of the device. I am not sure if they can see from this what kind of phone you have, it may be possible, but I lean towards no.

C2DM, or possibly also known ad "crossbar" is the backend service that the app uses to talk to google, payment processors, well, something -- but I know that your device HAS to be registered with it.

So, if you keep trying to re-register, it is possible that the nfc will be locked.

Also, here is a good article about the security of google wallet:

http://www.darkreading.com/smb-secu...ogle-s-digital-wallet-a-better-mousetrap.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dwang:
that doesn't actually make sense. Why would they check your device type only after the 3rd try and block it. Why not just check for the device type the first time and not let you register at all.

dave
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
my number of Wallet activations is FOUR... receiving email each time from Google to my android registered gmail:

Welcome to Google Wallet, the app that makes your phone your wallet -- and makes paying fast and saving simple.

Here’s how to get started:

Set up your Citi® MasterCard® or the Google Prepaid Card -- touch the “Payment cards” icon in the app, then select the card you would like to set up.

For a limited time, get a free $10 automatically loaded on your Google Prepaid Card immediately after you set it up.

Visit a merchant that accepts MasterCard PayPass™. Find one with the MasterCard PayPass™ Locator app.

If you have questions or need help, please visit our Help Center or call us at 855-492-5538. Thank you.

Cheers,

The Google Wallet Team

google.com/wallet

i only received the $10 bonus the first two times

my number of Google Debit Card funds top-off using the same registered Visa is FOUR... receiving email each time from Money Network to my Visa registered Hotmail account:

This is the receipt for the request you made to add funds from your credit card to the Google Prepaid Card in your Google Wallet

Your credit card statement will show a purchase from MONEY NETWORK LLC. The purchase details are below...(truncated)

my number of Citi MasterCard activations on Wallet is TWO... receiving email each time from Citi to my Citi registered Hotmail account:

Welcome!

For your protection, there is one last step to activate your Citi credit card to work with Google Wallet™. It's easy -- just open Google Wallet app on your phone, click on 'Payment Cards', and under the Citi credit card, enter activation code (edited). Please take a few moments right now to enter your code before it expires on 12/24 at 02:34AM EST.

If you have any questions or feel you received this email in error please call 1-877-762-2989.

Thank you for choosing Google Wallet -- the new way to tap, pay, and save.

Sincerely,

Client Care Services

have made two NFC purchases in last 24-hours using default Google Debit Card and confirmed via phone that Citi PayPass MasterCard is active and linked without restriction to Wallet. no plans to test a purchase on Citi at this time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WhiterThanWhite:
I'm sure Wallet activations don't mean much, if anything. I've activated and received the 'welcome to Google Wallet' email over 25 times.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jetrii:
Likewise. When I called Money Network they had my reset Google Wallet a total of maybe 7 times.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bplewis24:
This is really starting to become confusing. I've re-installed the .apk once, and at this point I'm hesitant to start ROMming at all until I know for sure what the deal is.

What we need to do is start getting universal definitions of certain terms that matter to Google/Money like "activations", "installations", "registrations", etc., so that we know what we can and cannot do with this app/phone combination.

Brandon
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leavingharvard:
I haven't been able to successfully use GWallet on the extended battery. Wallet doesn't even recognise the Paypass terminals. Put my regular battery back in and it works without problems.

Will probably return mine and get another. Just wanted to leave this out there for anyone considering one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dwang:
The official samsung battery has a nfc antenna built into the battery.

Does your extended battery have that? Is it an official samsung battery or a generic? A generic one probably doesn't have an antenna.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] leavingharvard:
Hey dwang,

This is the official Sammy extended battery and it does say "Near Field Communication" on it. I'm thinking I bought a defective unit. I will report back when I get my replacement.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biggiephat:
this sounds more real. and for the millionth time, back up google wallet, never reset google wallet data and you wont even come close to the three times reset.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] karey43:
Ok, so, if hypothetically I'm scared of what an overall phone software update might do, uninstall wallet, then try re-installing this APK after the update, if I sign in using the same google account as before, does that re-register or does it keep all my same data from before? Does uninstalling wipe or reset wallet data? Are you saying to make a backup of what I have now so instead of re-installing the apk I would install my backup? Ideally I'd like to just leave the app there and let phone updates happen but I'm scared an update will wipe the data for me and lock my secure element or something.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] biggestmexi:
Tried to use it, forced closed even sending data... Pissed
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
...this is encouraging: "To be used again for payment, the Secure Element must be reset by a combination of the Trusted Service Manager and the user. This process removes all previously provisioned payment instruments."

i will optimistically hold out an assumption that the Trusted Service Manager would be Money Network and not Googlerolla. which would, hopefully, mean that once the IEMI is associated with a Google Debit Card ID the Trusted Service Manager could reset the Secure Element per verification protocols and the "android device type ID" is irrelevant to Money Network... at this stage of the service rollout at least.

opinions and conjecture.

hey miasma! what is required for you to get your company to buy you some galaxy nexus phones, set up Wallets, load them up and play with us so your research can keep benefit from mirroring our real world scenarios and you can then dig into the encrypted databases looking at your own confidential info?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EvanVanVan:
I just reloaded my second time and got an email from money network, everything seems fine...should still work when I try tomorrow
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] th0r615:
My safe element is not locked but I'm sure I'm close to it. I had it working on my stock rom, then flashed an AOSP 4.0.3 rom to test out for a few hours but never put Google Wallet on it, flashed back to a stock rom (not a backup) and reinsalled Wallet, then flashed yet another rom and installed Wallet for a third time.

So next time would it be safe to assume that I will get a secure element lock?

What about if I dont use wallet again until (or if) we get an official release?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WhiterThanWhite:
This is confusing. I think whoever said there'sa limit of three reloads is talking about the amount of times you can add funds to your Prepaid card before being asked for SSN etc.

When I first had issues with Wallet, I flashed it probably 10 times. Yet here I am, with a fully functional Google Wallet. Perhaps that's because I used stock roms? Maybe it's custom ROMs that cause the secure element to get locked out?

Another thing I noticed is that on my Google dashboard it shows that 'com.android.nfc3' for my Nexus is backed up to Google servers. Are yours?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chandlerweb:
My com.android.nfc3 is backed up but last date is before I installed Google wallet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shamrock13:
I tried using the .APK to install it to my phone, and well, it says it's not certified on my country's device/carrier. I'm trying on an unactivated LTE Nexus over Wi-Fi. Any ideas?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] demarco2:
Initializing your device

Has anyone who has had their device stuck at Initializing your device ever gotten it to install correctly. I'm using verizon GN not rooted with 4.0.2. I'm not sure if I would be wasting my time to factory reset again. I've tried it once with no luck.

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] irishrally:
I set up google wallet on new GN (tmo USA) and I got another free $10 but the balance I had on my prepaid card from my Nexus S did not show up. It appears the Wallet account is tied to the device an not the gmail account. I called the number in the Wallet app, waited about a minute and money network picked up. It will take 24 hours to transfer my funds from the account tied to the NS to the new GN account. Pretty cool they picked up almost immediately on Christmas Eve.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tim-H:
Its definitely not tied to your normal google wallet account. I logged in on my laptop and there was no way to access the payment methods available on the phone app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nosit1:
Just read two above. Odd occurrence.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fugugaipan:
Tried Money Network a second time and this time got a supremely helpful guy. Ran through wiping the app data then went straight to upping the help request to the next tier to have the device data remotely wiped and reset. Just waiting for the call back to have it done.

Will update once it happens
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fugugaipan:
Just finished with Money Network and their master reset. App loads my account now fine. Just have to test payments.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
cool! were you suffering from "Secure Element not responding" or "Insufficient privileges"? your on a gsm device?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 0mie:
My account has been disabled since Wednesday and Stasha never called me back, her voicemail said she'd be out of the office until next year...I might be screwed since I have over $600 in the account :/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zilaitis817:
please help!!!!!!!

I installed google wallet the first time on my phone and it worked i only have 26 cents left but . But i needed to do a factory reset on my phone for other resons not releated to google wallet but now i re installed it and i cant try it out bec there is no money on it but does any one think it would still work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fugugaipan:
Error on linking the Google prepay account with wallet since switching from zip to apk install.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zilaitis817:
Lukegb please help i installed the app and it worked great spent all but 26 cents but i had to do a factory reset on my phone not releated to google wallet tho for othere reasons. And now i installed it again but theres now showing if it works it installed and came up and it brought all my information up. U just got me worried now about that secure element part do u think ill be fine or is there a way i can test it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shamrock13:
Can anyone help me? I installed the APK for the very first time on my non-rooted Nexus LTE (Verizon), and well, it's telling me that the device/carrier is not supported. I don't have the phone activated on VZW yet, but does anyone think that could be a cause? I don't know what else I can do to fix this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AndyCr15:
Sorry if this has been covered, I've not read the whole thread. Any UK users have a way to top up yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miasma:
I wouldn't hold out hope... but I do have something big to announce soon. Probably after New Years...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 420SYN:
It seems like the way to avoid it is to backup app + data with titanium or similar and restore after wipe/ or new rom. Otherwise Google has to re-authenticate your wallet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Evangelion01:
This is what I'm interested in too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zilaitis817:
420syn i know what your saying but if it wasnt gunna work and something was wromg or the secure element was activated wouldnt it not let me in the app at all tho
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shominy:
For me, yes. I was running LTE stock 4.02. Installed apk. Went to CVS and made a purchase. Deposited $50 for more purchase testing. All went well.

Decided to unlock and root. Now I get "Security Element stop responding." Flashed back to stock. Installed apk and still got the error. Said f*it and keep it rooted for tethering since I will use tethering more than wallet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miasma:
There is absolutely nothing about rooting that should cause this to happen. Can you please be much more specific about the events leading up to this issue occurring? What did you do to "unlock and root"?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
If you are up for trying this...good luck...I have no idea what your outcome will be...

Give a try to calling Money Network and asking for a complete reset of your account.

Once they confirm who you are ask they confirm your Google Debit Card ID and your IEMI is noted to account.

Remove Google Debit Card from Google Debit Card settings.

Reset Google Wallet from app's main settings.

...the above is done in conjunction with Money Network agent while being sure to explain that your locked out due to a full factory reset of your device...

...they will be doing a reset on their end...or so they told me and at least one other post in this thread...

...they might assume you are a Nexus S...

...they might assume you are on Sprint...

Let us know how it goes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shominy:
This is exactly what occurred. I have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus in the US. It was never rooted with stock 4.02. Installed the com.google.android.apps.walletnfcrel-2.apk. Install went fine. Got the $10 deposited. Added a mastercard and added $50 to the account. Went to CVS and bought a candy bar. Worked perfectly. I just woke up and the phone and held it to the paypass. Didn't have to enter PIN.

Yesterday, I decided I wanted to root using superboot from here android.modaco.com/topic/348161-30-nov-r3-superboot-rooting-the-gsm-lte-galaxy-nexus. After a successful flash. I confirmed I was rooted by using root explorer and wifi tethering and running superuser. Then I installed the same google wallet apk. Install went fine. I launch the app and immediately got the "security element stop responding. Please contact google support." I turned off NFC and relaunched wallet. It started initializing then warned me I need to turn on NFC. Turned it back on and got the "security element" again. Uninstall. Rebooted. Reinstall. Same error.

Decided to flash back to stock using this guide; droidforums.net/forum/galaxy-nexus-development/188161-how-return-your-galaxy-nexus-100-stock-locked-bootloader. Everything went fine. Installed the same wallet.apk and was greeted with "security element" again. So I am at a complete lost of what happened. After returning to stock didn't work. I rooted again using superboot. Tried wallet again and same thing. So for now I'm leaving it and hope someone smarter than me figures it out.

P.S. I'm not allowed to post link.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miasma:
Why did you have to "install the same google wallet apk" after simply rooting? Did you install a new ROM or just the root flash? There is no reason to reinstall anything after a simple rooting operation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Evangelion01:
That rooting method (and I believe all rooting methods for the Galaxy Nexus) requires that the bootloader be unlocked. That wipes your phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 420SYN:
I'm not sure I haven't had that issue I'm just gonna stick with my current firmware until its sorted. But from what I understand if you got that error. A nandroid backup could help otherwise you need a new phone or wait for a fix. From what I read a new battery won't fix it either cuz only the antenna is in it.