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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Davidsmonkeyroost:
Hi Wonshikee, I couldn't replicate this with Youtube. I tried running in portrait and landscaping it after the video, the other way around and variations of the two, but no success. Are you sure your screen isn't just timing out?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dinan:
Thanks for these pics. I know that black isn't pure black as there has to be some light output when there's current running through the screen. For our human eyes it's pretty damn black but yea there's some anomalies that long exposure cameras can pick up and, while they aren't noticeable to most people, they've been reported on every SAMOLED screen so far.

Anyway, you still have the most standardized battery tests so far so thanks for your work and patience!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vivanshah:
should be possible to use monkey/monkeyrunner via ADB to create a battery test simulating user input.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] draugaz:
I would tend to think that this is due to the fact, that "black" in reality is not really black. So, each pixel will be "serviced" anyway and will consume curent even in black state. This overhead is apparently much more significant than just an additional energy required to emit "dim white".

One interesting thing to know would be to measure how bright is that "dim white" really is. Without proper equipment I could imagine one could take a DSLR, set it to manual and configure iso/apperture/shutter in such a way, that full screen white on the maximum brightness would be pictured as gray with RGB values somewhere around 200.

Then set the screen to the lowest brightness level and use the same camera settings to take a photo.

Shutter speed should be as slow as possible.

Now, I do not know why Samsung engineers chose not to completely switch the pixels off as the xOLED theory would make us think, but I could imagine it has something to do with nonlinear nature of the LED.

LED's have certain threshold after which they start to glow. If you want a completely black LED you need to be under this threshold, otherwise - over.

One could think, that this threshold is not completely stable and differs depending on temperature etc. Also, there could be a considerable hysteresis, like you need some certain current X to switch it on and maybe go significantly lower to switch it off. As the pixels and drivers are getting smaller such effects will only amplify.

So it would be a reasonable approach to keep pixels switched on at the possible lowest stable state, just before they go off. Otherwise one could face ugly transitional problems such as undesirable overdrive.

Just my 2 cents, I am not an electronics engineer and do not work for samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wonshikee:
I'll try to see if I can take a picture of it.

Also I was using the youtube app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Davidsmonkeyroost:
And I'm done... Testing Completed. Check FP for the results.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
Conclusion ... Use black and the lowest possible of brightness ... As I have been doing it with my Nexus S super amoled screen :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Davidsmonkeyroost:
It's more like "Use white or black - it doesn't matter, as long as you have the lowest brightness enabled."

Maybe I'll do some tests like people have mentioned - White with black text and Black with white text at full and minimum brightness.

I've had Off-Clock running on my phone for 50 minutes now - battery is draining the same as my Black tests :-( No good - battery won't last more than 11 hours without even using the thing!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] anishsondhi:
Thanks for ur tests..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tj6225:
Thanks for the info, I know the black screen w/ brightness low will help me out.

But I don't know it would help that much compared to the brightness white.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] draugaz:
I doubt it would reveal anything of interest as it would mean something like 95%/5% black/white pixels. I.e. essentially the same as solid white or solid black.

But considering the elaborate "trickery" involved it would be interesting to test something like 50/50 black/white pixel distribution. I suspect, such pattern could consume nearly as much power as solid white (and be brighter).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
Yes, this is interesting ...

How fast the power drain if the screen consist of 50% white and 50% black.

And 25% white and 75% black.

Will it be linear equation? ... hmmm ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kyle1745:
Great test and thanks for taking the time to do it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Celeras:
I wonder how a live wallpaper (like Phase Beam since it is lag-free) would compare to the white.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ap3604:
That's what she said ;)

Edit: thanks to the OP for the work you put into this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] centerwaters:
I thought Super AMOLED was supposed to use less power than tradition al LCD screens. Or am I wrong?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
It does for dark and black colors. But for white colors its actually worse than lcd.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] centerwaters:
okay, that makes sense. does that mean I'll get better battery life it I use a black wallpaper? (as opposed to my current bright wallpaper)

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
Yes, its long been known using black gets better battery on amoled, not LCD though. That's why black Gmail, text, Google+ all exist. Inverted gapps. That's why our browser has invert color option which I use religiously.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 1stx2:
If anybody was wondering where the browser inverted color option was like me, it's in the accessibility option in the settings menu. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sitinon327:
Thanks for posting because I couldn't find it lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 0vermind:
Would like to see test w/ lte on on black screen and see how much additional battery lte radio takes. I'm sure even on idle it takes a lot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kladde:
I can't fin this setting either in Firefox or Gmail.

Where can I find it?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
Its in the stock browser under accessibility. For Gmail and gapps you have to flash the modified apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kladde:
So for the browser I need to use the standard internet browser? As Firefox does not support the inverted colors?

What do you mean with flash the modified apps?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] genericmessage:
Well it depends. Do you have LTE where you live? Remember our cellphones always are hunting for a signal (if it doesn't have one).

That uses a bunch of power.

Or if you have a weak LTE connection and it starts jumping towers, that could hurt it just as bad

Sent from the last good Android device that Motorola has made since the Droid
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
Yeah the stock browser has it.

Find the inverted gapps on rootzwiki and flash it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jobah:
You should measure red and green screens.. I remember that on Amoled... Red saved most battery power.
[General Accessories] Wired_In:
I am having a really hard time finding any Class 6 32gb microSD cards for my new Skyrocket. Is there a shortage going on tied in with the hard drive shortage?
[General Accessories] Mahou_Shoujo_Meltdown:
Sent you a PM apparently I can't link URls.
[General Accessories] AllGamer:
not sure which planet you were on, but there has been a huge sale of 32GB microSD on sale in black friday and cyber monday sales in the USA
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] HcMAX:
Hello

Does anyone knows if need for speed the run will be available for us?

Thanks
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Themes and Apps] djroobs:
for sure.... it's coming for IOS next month .probably in the last half of dec'11 we'll see it for us.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
I feel as if the landscape keyboard is bugged on the ace. No matter what keyboard I switch it to, it always makes 2 letter typos and it lags sometimes. Think this is a hardware problem? Or am I the only one facing this problem?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] CallMeVentus:
Depends on what keyboard you're using .
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] SuperAce609:
I'm using the stock cm7.2 keyboard. Which one do you recommend?
[Motorola Droid 3] syaoran12:
Theme Manager is included in the Donate version of Liberty Customizer.

You can find it here on the android market.

The Theme Manager will only be found in the Donate version of the app because we wanted the people who donated to our cause to feel they got something extra for their donation.

Screenshots
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
So not based on 5.7.xxx yet?

Does stock text messaging contain universal inbox?
[Motorola Droid 3] MrJudylicious:
you can flash hashcodes patch after installing liberty on a 5.7.894 and it will work no problem
[Motorola Droid 3] jellydroid13:
theme manager has no themes
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
Where can Hash's patch be found? Is it the one listed here at the bottom of the CM7 builds?

http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/p/android-downloads.html
[Motorola Droid 3] joeyx2:
Can't use safestrap? (Not a problem, just asking)
[Motorola Droid 3] Lyxdeslic:
I'd also like to know if this is Safestrap compatible. Also, does this update include any fixes to the "Cell Idle" and "Cell Standby" issues? They were drastically high in comparison to Stock 5.6.890 Blur. I loved the 1.0 version, but I had to stop using because of the battery drain issues.

Thank you so much for the work you put into the D3.
[Motorola Droid 3] calash:
I just did the install via SafeStrap with no issues outside of the fact I cannot locate the lock screen options. Safestrap is still working fine so rollback is possible.

On that note: I cannot locate the lock screen options and every time I try to access the status bar options the process crashes.
[Motorola Droid 3] eww245:
You'll have to wipe data in order to see the new options.
[Motorola Droid 3] calash:
Well that stinks. Is there anyway around that? Really not wanting to do a datawipe again just for the lock screen.
[Motorola Droid 3] jellydroid13:
I didn't wipe and I'm in safestrap. Everything works for me great rom
[Motorola Droid 3] na2rboy:
Same here
[Motorola Droid 3] na2rboy:
Just fixed by deleting the empty liberty themes folder on the internal SD card. It then downloaded the themes when I went back into the customizer.
[Motorola Droid 3] donwhall70:
FYI To the Devs... Flashing the Blur Email/Calendar seems to be what puts the "Hack" in the settings menu.
[Motorola Droid 3] vantix:
Is there any reason I can't select any ringtones for ANYTHING in this ROM? I had the same problem with the previous version.

I have even went so far as to install some custom ringtones on to interal sd, sd-ext, and in /system/media/audio but yet when I go in to the settings to select either a ringtone, or a notification sound the popup is blank.

I did wipe and clear cache before installing the newest 2.0, but as I mentioned earlier I had this same problem in the last version.

**EDIT**

Also the Blur Calendar widget is still force closing upon trying to add it to the desktop.
[Motorola Droid 3] Jason Roach:
Just flashed and I'm liking it so far but I noticed the touch screen doesn't work that well with the app drawer open

Sent from my Liberated DROID3
[Motorola Droid 3] suzook:
Its an issue with the launcher that comes with the rom. Use a different launcher
[Motorola Droid 3] Androidsims:
I have had the donate version since my old droid x so I uninstall the one that comes with the rom but it always reinstalls itself. Anyway around this?
[Motorola Droid 3] ubermetroid:
Installed -

Launcher needs some work. Going to install Launcher Pro for now.

Everything else is working fast so far - !
[Motorola Droid 3] Senate9690:
I would suggest wipe. There is a theme customizer built into the new version with several (7?) different colors including ICS Blue. I would suggest using that but it requires you donate $5 for the application (its worth it). However you may be able to flash that theme over the new version
[Motorola Droid 3] jarzy00:
Successfully flashed the update over the older one. (;
[Motorola Droid 3] ssinisterss:
on the AOSP camera, which setting in the video is 720p, 1080p and lower? all i see is small and high
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
Oddly enough, my camera will no longer record when I press record. I tried reflashing Liberty over Liberty without wiping since this .zip was the one that fixed it...to no avail. I like the Blur camera look more than the AOSP camera, but I'll try that one here soon.
[Motorola Droid 3] Rennert:
install the aosp camera over liberty customizing and after reinstall the blurcamera and test it. blurcamera record works for me in hd+ 1080p

...Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
I wonder if it has to do with applying the changes to enable hi/low speed recording? I'll pull those stock files from the .zip and replace my current, modded ones. Then I'll go back through making a change at a time to pinpoint the issue.
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Oddly enough the blur camera that is loaded by default, and the blur camera from the customizer are different
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
I've noticed this too. Anyone have an idea why? Dev?

EDIT:

So a re-flash of Liberty fixed the recording issue. It must be one of my tweaks...time to test!

2ND EDIT:

Well, I tried modding the needed files on the computer since I could not add to build.prop on the phone, and when I tried moving the modded build.prop in, it said there was not sufficient space?
[Motorola Droid 3] matthskim:
Ringtone dropdown box

I just flashed the rom and found out that the phone does not ring and the ringtone dropdown menu in the settings does not show any rongtones.

Anyone experienced this?
[Motorola Droid 3] ourtut:
I have been running this rom Spencer release an I have not noticed this. Best rom yet.
[Motorola Droid 3] jediman:
Well there is your problem. Need to install ringtoes...rongtones are extra.
[Motorola Droid 3] monkeydrufy:
Any hope to add italian language?

thanks
[Motorola Droid 3] dsw361:
I've literally flashed and used every rom build for droid 3 so far and nothing can beat liberty 2.0. Virtually flawless, speed is incredible and battery life is amazing, especially after flashing the init.d hack.
[Motorola Droid 3] bishop0114:
I tried the init.d hack on Liberty2 and it jacked up my phone. The wifi/3g didn't work correctly and the phone kept freezing.

Were there any specific steps you did to do the init.d hack?
[Motorola Droid 3] DoubleYouPee:
Just curious did you try mavrom?
[Motorola Droid 3] dsw361:
I just flashed using safestrap 1.08. Didn't wipe anything.
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
Can anyone explain why my home key suddenly stopped working and won't return me home?
[Motorola Droid 3] majatt:
Tried to switch from aosp cal/email to blur and it didn't work, I tried to switch back and now I don't have an email app and can't add corporate accounts.

Should I just wipe data and try again or is there another way someone can recommend?
[Motorola Droid 3] eww245:
Had the same problem blur email kept force closing and when switching back to aosp Email.apk was missing. Either extract it from the rom zip or reflash. Wiping data won't fix it.
[Motorola Droid 3] ubermetroid:
I know ICS is around the corner - but until then it would be nice is Liberty 3 got a v3.0. :D
[Motorola Droid 3] majatt:
Crappers I'll wipe and reflash then. Hope this gets fixed, I quite like their universal mailbox and the scrollable calendar widget.
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
NO! Don't wipe. :P Just reflash it. This will reset the ROM and will leave your data as is.
[Motorola Droid 3] buckmarble:
If anyone is having battery life or connectivity issues on this rom please read this thread: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=188251 Liberty contains a file in the fw from the bionic that causes connectivity issues and battery life problems. I provided a fixed file in the thread.
[Motorola Droid 3] Shavi:
i got a problem when install this or another custom rom on my Milestone 3... Invalid SIM... and no 3G conectivity :S can some one help me?
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Find my thread called xt860, custom roms and you and download the 3gfix.zip, flash it and do a factory reset.
[Motorola Droid 3] dsw361:
I think you may have uploaded the wrong framework-res.apk, I checked out the power_profile.xml in your file and its totally different from the stock 5.6.890 power_profile.xml.
[Motorola Droid 3] buckmarble:
It is from 5.7.xxx
[Motorola Droid 3] dsw361:
Well whatever system it's from it doesn't seem right because it has CPU speed of 1300,800,600 etc... in the xml file.
[Motorola Droid 3] dsw361:
But I did end up pulling power_profile.xml from stock 5.6.890 and my phone seems to run better.
[Motorola Droid 3] buckmarble:
This is correct. Im a dev on mavrom and we run the 5.7.xx base and it is correct. Those cpu speeds do not govern the actuall cpu speed. You will see much improved battery and connectivity.
[Motorola Droid 3] dsw361:
haha! Yeah I know you can't govern the CPU that easy:-)

I noticed all the other parameters were the same I just wanted to make sure.

Also, you do realise that liberty2. 0 is based off of 5.6.890 right?
[Motorola Droid 3] buckmarble:
Yes, but this will work good. It is compatible with 5.6 and does make a slight performance improvement battery wise.
[Motorola Droid 3] dsw361:
Ok, ill give it a whirl and see what I find.
[Motorola Droid 3] majatt:
Will try, installed an exchange app trial and a diff cal widget for now and its working quite well.
[Motorola Droid 3] ubermetroid:
My install of this rom started to have the worst battery life. Any ideas on what i should do?

I mean a noticable difference with the same usage.
[Motorola Droid 3] MyNarwhalBacon:
You may have to use the "battery calibration" app. Its free. Follow the instructions.

You may want to try the Maverick Rom. Its made by buckmarble. It's using a more recent base from that gives better performance and battery life.

Sadly it seems that Liberty has too many projects going so we may not see an update for this from (until the bootloader is unlocked).
[Motorola Droid 3] ubermetroid:
cool. Where is the Maverick link?
[Motorola Droid 3] buckmarble:
I also provided a battery life fix in this thread: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=188251
[Motorola Droid 3] ubermetroid:
Thats cool and all - and I might try that if SD 4.5 does not work out - Thanks!
[Motorola Droid 3] buckmarble:
You should give maverick a try too! You wont be disappointed. We have a big update coming soon also.
[Motorola Droid 3] ssinisterss:
i downloaded the liberty fix .apk you have in that link, where does this need to go in the rom .zip file?
[Motorola Droid 3] Senate9690:
Under system > framework
[Motorola Droid 3] ssinisterss:
i also was running V1.2 without knowing so this should end up better than what i was getting before. i looked in battery useage and my display is at 73%, it wasnt that high before the framework res fix was installed. right now im running the speedy init-d hack also.
[Motorola Droid 3] buckmarble:
The display usage is correct. It consumes the most juice from your battery.
[Motorola Droid 3] jjhiza:
I love this ROM, and it was the only one, other than CM9, that I put on my D3. I have to ask this though, as a matter of interest... is it still being worked on? I know Kejar has the Gummy Nex build going strong right now, and this ROM is really stable and fast (the fastest I've used so far, at 2960 on Quadrant), but I haven't heard any noise about an update for a while... I'm perfectly happy with it as-is, since it's my non-safe ROM, but any thoughts?

D3 CM9 Alpha 5
[Motorola Droid 3] MyNarwhalBacon:
I would say that he has too many projects going. Its been nearly 2 months since an update. The rom is based upon an old build. I've tried all the roms and I find this to be the 2nd best. Each rom has its pluses. Maverick, my favorite, is still being worked on and has many themes. The rom is built on a newer base so it is quicker, and has better battery life. It is as Blur free as you want. It has an update coming out really soon. Steel Droid is great if you are a fan of pain free blur. Eclipse is a great port but has some battery issues because its a port. Still a good rom. Dark Rom is great if like the theme.

If you want a rom that is updated with the latest and greatest with a Liberty feel, go Maverick. You can find it on Droid Forums or Rootz Wiki. At this point it is 2.0. 3.0 is coming out in the near future.
[Motorola Droid 3] ubermetroid:
How come I can not find the Maverick link? I want to try it but I can not find it.
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
I don't think the Mav devs support on XDA, but only work on 2 other forums. And they divert you there to ask questions. (If I'm thinking of the right ROM.)

Anyways, Liberty is the only ROM i can get 24 hours from. Did you wipe data/cache/system/dalvik before you flashed it? This can cause some conflicts and cause excessive drain. Right now, I've been on battery for 4hr 24min 56sec and have 87% battery remaining, and have had WiFi on the whole time while doing some texting and Words With Friends.
[Motorola Droid 3] ubermetroid:
Yea - I wiped everything. How in the world do you get 24 hours? I must use mine more - I get about 12-14 hours.
[Motorola Droid 3] buckmarble:
Maverick rom http://www.droidforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=181156
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
I flashed the Speedy7 script and partly attribute it to the app called AutoStarts. It lets you view what starts when X happens, such as StumbleUpon, Maps, Google+, TTS, Voice Commands, and Rom Toolbox trying to start when an application installs. So you can deactivate this with the app, because it's completely unnecessary and starting up apps in the background uses up a lot of battery.
[Motorola Droid 3] ubermetroid:
ah. well that is the difference then. I like having all my programs running.
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
I've gotten 40+ hours before on liberty. It came from not using my phone much. (After new years mega hangover) 18 hours is more standard for me, based on my use. The display is the biggest battery eater. I can leave my phone unplugged over night and only use about 1% an hour. Screen on I go through 1% every couple minutes
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
Do you use all of them? Because there really is no reason for StumbleUpon to start when I install an application. That's just counter-intuitive. I figure that the app will start right up in a second, why have it just idling and using battery? They'll still sync normally even if they aren't running. I have FB to 4hr sync, Twitter to no sync, and email (3 accounts) set to push. Words With Friends is also set to alert push.
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Amps in ram don't use battery. Only the act of opening, when it needs cpu does it consume battery.
[Motorola Droid 3] ovelayer:
i just think it sux that liberty offers no support..so many bugs and were left in the dark..even if you follow their twitter..jrummy offers no support WHATSOEVER on ANY of his or team liberty apps..such potential yet falls short like a midget in a porno..sorry just letting frustration out that you have to install this rom then tweek it then mess with it then alter it to make it the rom it should be..liberty used to out think us on this now we have to suggest to them..wow...go team liberty..bleh
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Myself I find liberty to have the most options and fewest bugs. Once you fix the power_profile.xml of course
[Motorola Droid 3] ssinisterss:
theres a fix for the power xml? i thought there was just the framework res fix:confused:
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
Same thing. Power_profile.xml is the file within the framework-res.apk that was causing the high cell standby issue
[Motorola Droid 3] Endoroid:
I've noticed auto correct doesn't work for my physical keyboard. I imagine its because this is a bionic port and bionic has no keyboard. Anyone know what file(s) or mods are needed to make it work?
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
Where can I find the framework/power profiles fix?
[Motorola Droid 3] Rennert:
any pages up in this thread is the link;-)

...Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid 3] redsox985:
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see it. Are you talking about the init.d flashable zip?