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[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] MarkP80nj:
I've been lurking these forums since this phone came out, with the occasional post here and there.

I have seen people waiting months just for root.

I remember kb5 enhanced was our only ROM for times without end, just to have that developer throw a fit at Mr.Clown for mistakingly closing his thread and leave us hanging.

I remember following Krylon on twitter for what seemed like an eternity, until we finally had cwm on our phones.

Then came the good times.

New roms coming out just about every week, themes, mods, and all the goodies we see on our forums today.

New developers popping up, the formation of teams like aerodonk and acid.

Now we are back in one of these silent periods.

It seems like all development stopped.

But one thing I've learned from these forums is that patience is a virtue.

We go from bad times to good times, to bad again, and so on.

I'm sure there is progress being done right now.

No matter how little, our how long it's taking, it will come.

And a new life cycle will start for our phones.

We just gotta hang tight, get through this metamorphose, and then our phone will come out, greater then before!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Exodian:
Saw on krylons twitter something about doing another rom based off of the gb update so that looks promising.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Exodian:
Also its not just the sgs4g. I own a sensation as well and things have really slowed there too.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] thomas.raines:
I understand everybodys frustration with the length of time that it is taking for us to get new roms. But you have to understand these guys do this in their spare time. And yes, it is true that because of Samsung and t mobile taking forever to release a GB for us made some of the devs loose interest and move to other devices; however, we still have	Raver and Krylon on or side, Dsexton will be coming back soon, and hopefully we can get Drhonk and Whitehawx back if not for developing but for at least guidance, tips, and support. I for one have started trying to learn how to do some of this but without a Linux machine it is a bit difficult. But there is no reason some of you can't chip in and try to learn this stuff too. Not to override the few true devs we have, but to assist them.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] itzik2sh:
Hi Thomas

Please share your knowledge source. I am willing to learn as well, though to tell you the truth, moding and theming couldn't care me less, I'm always into performance and reliability, as well as good RTL and foreign language support (like in CM and MIUI).

Other than that, I'm always on stock theme.

I'm no dev, but I'm considering to become one in the future.

Sent from me
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] thomas.raines:
My biggest resources are picking the brain of RaverX3X and google. You can do most everything on a windows machine except mod kernels and make an Odin .tar (for those you need Linux or the ability to run Linux in a vm environment). There are quite a few tutorials out there. You just have to download the right tools to do it, have lots of spare time to devote to it and the gonads to test it.lol... Pm me later with specific questions and I can give you direct links to tutorials that might help you as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] josepresas:
i say we make a donation pool. Whoever gives us cm7 or miui first gets the money.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Might not be such a bad idea.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] s15274n:
Might want to add the disclaimer it should be officially supported :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ultimakillz:
Interesting idea. The only issue I see is what if we collect money and no one steps up to the plate. Would everyone just get a refund or would the money go towards another cause?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] crackpot:
You don't necessarily need Linux in order to make an Odin flashable tar file, I personally use Cygwin to make the modem packages.

Yes I am aware that Cygwin is Linux-like command line, but it is by no means Linux in a VM environment.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] candler33w:
I would rather set a bounty for ICS. CM9 would be a better goal in my opinion.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jager555:
what happened to CM8? did i miss something?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] josepresas:
Well yea, a fund to get us any of the major ROMs cm9 miui or ICS etc..

And idk what we would do with the money if no one delivers.. ideas?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daworship:
I remember when i had the galaxy vibrant early this year i was so into the device cause they were a lots of roms here to choose from and thats one of my concerns now for this device now. If you go to the vibrant section there are a lots of 2.2 biulds 2.2.1, 2.3 ,2.3.3 etc etc etc. And they are all different. Including from stock to MIUI and htc Sence. As well as gingerbread and honeycomb. So my question is why the devs didnt work on some builds like those for this device. From my end i really dont care about what number of the OS is as long the build is stable, fast, bloatware free, custom ringtones, wallpapers, and other great thing that i did manage to see on my old vibrant that i no longer own :/

Yesterday my older sister got the galaxy s 2 for tmobile and its so awsome. I have envy in me now jajajajaja xD
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] candler33w:
I would leave it as a standing bounty like they did with the HP Touchpad. Someone will jump on it if its large enough.

---------- Post added at 08:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:28 PM ----------

CM8 was reserved for Honeycomb so ICS will be CM9
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] thomas.raines:
This is true. Which is what I am learning to use now, but I forgot to add that part... Thanks for catching my error. From my understanding, you can use it to modify a kernel as well, but i'm not having very good luck with it yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] crackpot:
This is mere conjecture on my part, but I would assume that you can modify the kernel in Windows as long as your text editor supports Unix-type line endings (Notepad++ works nicely), and then compile it using presumably gcc in Cygwin. Again, this is merely speculation on my part, having only built a Linux kernel on Linux, for my desktop.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] itzik2sh:
I disagree. I upgraded my entire family's SGS phones to GB and we all use Gtalk and phone to PC skype, except for my little sister who insists on staying at Froyo, and lacks this functionality. I'm always for the newer the better.

Sent from me
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] camalus:
I wonder if any of the devs have contacted Faux123. He is kind of the kernel master. Him and Cyanogen made magic happen for the mytouch 4g. The kernels he made for that, the sensation and other phones are just bloody amazing.

I have suggest him as a person who understands this stuff many times...

But yes... a bounty for a working build may entise someone with the know-how to step forward.

Would make for a wonderful Christmas present...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] crackpot:
You guys are talking as if the SGS4G has been completely abandoned. Sure things are slow now, but the source was just

recently

released. I don't know how much you guys know about development, but tweaking, building, adding, removing etc. from newly released source takes time. Krylon has not given up on this phone, he has stated elsewhere that the kernel is built, just tweaking right now.

Hang in there, asking for ETA's and progress updates usually does nothing but annoy the developers and possibly even turn them off to the idea of continuing development for this particular phone/community.

Just my $0.02.

EDIT

A quote from RootzWiki:

EDIT #2

Judging by the twitter feeds of various SGS4G devs a partial reason for the lack of activity on XDA is due, at least in part, because they have grown tired of XDA. Whether its the site itself, the community, or whatever would vary on the dev and would be speculation on my part, something I won't do. It seems devs are tired of being harassed by XDA members, something our devs have mentioned in the past.

So my advice is to watch RootzWiki as well for updates.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bhundven:
CM7 == Gingerbread

CM8 == Honeycomb

CM9 == ICS

Honeycomb source was/is not released, so CM skipped the version number in case HC is released.

--

I think one of the things users are noticing is that some devs got new phones and are now dev'ing on them.

Also, I'm guessing that with the time of year (lots of devs work for software/hardware companies, and are in crunch time for End Of Year releases... I know I'm in that department.) and holidays... this might be the beginning of a quiet period for users until after the new-year.

I finally got some tools that I've been waiting for in the mail that will help me start working on u-boot for sgs4g (and other phones), and I've started to poke around at the KJ6 source, but I also have some personal life obstacles that are rightfully taking up my time.

I've also noticed a lack of 'tribal knowledge', for both specifics on this phone and in general wrt getting proprietary fsr/xsr/rfs modules to work with leaked or built-from-source kernels. If anyone can give me a hand here, I can get a kj6 voodoo kernel up soon.

Sounds like we should start working on a SGS4G wiki page to start documenting some of this stuff, if it isn't already.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] lufc:
Unfortunately it does not

Nothing has been developed here

Moving to General
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
DRhonk gave his SGS4G to either his son or his wife, cant remember..

and chances of white returning... slim.. he hopped on the SGS2 band wagon, when they put a donation fund together for him.. so... that's how that cookie crumbles.

As for me, still here, and also deving for the NS and soon SGN.

Back to doing this ROM ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] icy56:
Dang. But didn't we set up a fund for whitehawkx to get a phone? If he isn't going to dev for this phone anymore :(, then perhaps we can give it to someone who wants to. Idk just a suggestion.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
last I heard on white was that he was waiting for another leak after his last release.. well, 3 leaks came out after, then the OTA.. so.. take it how you see it there.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mzangui:
I think he is busy playing BF3. Hopefully he will get bored sooner or later then he may come back to developing for SGS4G :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] finch8423:
I think we need to get started on a collection/pledge as soon as possible then. How do we set it up?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] pudgybunnyBry:
Regardless, whitehawkx did what we donated for. He has my thanks and support, whether he updates Valhalla or not. Drhonk has also done his time with this phone. We still have Raver, krylon, and the various others that pump out tweaks and themes.

I am happy to sit here and wait for krylon's next release.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] icy56:
Yeah. Whitehawkx has done a lot for this phone. Im just sad that he probably won't be working on this phone anymore. I was just suggesting instead of him not using the phone anymore then perhaps someone else could use it. But its all up to him and you guys.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bigtom624:
After source was released he said in the Valhalla thread he was going to update it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Caligula36:
Well I guess that would make him a liar then.

His contact info is available in the OP as well his email is in his profile if you would like to ask him when he's planning to follow through with his work. You're not the only one still trying to manage with Valhalla KI3. Get those messages out!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daxecutioner24:
With whitehawk Well look at it for what it is..hes not coming back,who knows what he did with the phone..people donated and if i remember just 1 rom got done,he should have same obligation as he does for sgs2 since both were donated...krylon with all the other phones he works with yet he still has released a bunch of stuff..along with raver.honk did an aweasome job.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daxecutioner24:
Keep up the work raver,krylon,airflip and all the other guys who bring apps,launcher to attention..like the aweasome 360 launcher.TRY IT:)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bigtom624:
Don't get me wrong, Valhalla is still a great Rom regardless of it not getting updated. I'm just stating the fact that he said it himself in his own thread that he was going to update it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daxecutioner24:
Yeah but that was weeks ago
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bigtom624:
Yeah it was, and I'm not trying to say that him or any other developer owes us anything either. I am just hoping that it does get updated.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ericmpanda:
That 360 launcher was updated follow the same link I posted and look for version 1.1 :)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Caligula36:
I knew Krylon had a phone purchased for him through donations, but i wasn't aware the whitehawkx had one bought for him as well. If that's the case then he has no right to stop developing here and go to the SGS2 forums just because they offered him cash. Those who donated should be flooding his threads in the SGS2 forum demanding he return the phone to someone here.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
I was really trying to stay out of this but won't any longer. First you suggest petitioning devs to come back then if that doesn't work sue? Give me a break man do something better with your spare time. Attitudes like that is what makes devs give up in the first place. It's the you owe me attitude. These guys don't owe you crap. I donated to krylon and raver. Would have donated to white but it got taken care of. It's a donation. Period. I expect no more of them than I would anyone else doing volunteer work. How many have you donated to? And if you have why expect anything from it?

Thanks to all the devs still here and to those that may come back. You owe us nothing and your time and effort are hugely appreciated.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] finch8423:
Why would anybody do this without a little bit of incentive? If no one plans on supporting a developer to support you, then do not be surprised when we do not see a whole lot of action. I had a Motorola xt720, which was a very crappy phone- but the xda group held a donation to have someone develop what they wanted and they got it in a week. Krylon seems more than capable of doing any rom, given the time and most importantly, incentive to do it.

Really it's that simple.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] krylon360:
to the person threatening to sue.. nope, wont happen, will be thrown out. The second you say DONATED... they will laugh at you.

donate

v donate [dəˈneit, (American ) ˈdouneit]

to give to a fund etc He donated $100 to the fund.

n doˈnation

a gift of money or goods to a fund or collection All donations are welcome.

n donor [ˈdounə]

a giver of a gift or of a part of the body used to replace a diseased part of someone else's body The new piano in the hall is the gift of an anonymous donor; a kidney donor; a blood donor.

Kernerman English Multilingual Dictionary © 2006-2010 K Dictionaries Ltd.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
Krylon I'm already laughing.

Now go have a beer and relax!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daxecutioner24:
Ok the suing thing is laughable,is not that serious to do that..but you can definitely reach him and tell him wassup with the bs.Also finch your a noob get your post count up before speaking on this matter lmao..why cant we all get along have a civilized internet conversation
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daxecutioner24:
Krylon that dictionary is old i think they stopped making those lol..just messing with ya
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] :
Wait, you just switched sides? I thought we had lousy devs and that you agreed with Caligula that devs who got phone owe us ROMs. W/e.

BTW... I'm on dev side. Donation is a gift. Nuff' said! But for real, I would like the devs to keep on this phone until we get MIUI and CM with official support. Still, I have been with KJ6 AOSP Style since it came out and I haven't had the urge to flash. Maybe we should all take a break from the forums. Just sayin'!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Jerry D:
I donated to both krylo360 and whitehawkx phone funds. As far as I'm concerned they both already delivered.

I still haven't flashed and Fully used All we have been Graced with by Them and Others in our Community.. I ran Valhalla and Black Ice for months until I switched to Audiophile and ICBINB and then ran Them for Weeks.. Do some people really need a New ROM everyday?..

I can't believe that after a couple of weeks after the Source release and with no ROMS to flash that people are implying that DEVS are liars, thieves and cheats. Should be moved against in a Court of Law!

Unbelievable!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
I'm going to chime in now...

Screw the two sides already established. I propose a third side in which we donate to phones so that they can create developers. If we get an intelligent enough smartphone we can have it create the perfect dev that can customize our roms how we want. If it doesn't we pull its battery and BAM.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daxecutioner24:
Umm I never said We have lousy devs.Go back reread,#1 rule learn in preschool

I thanked all the devs,IM GOING TO QUOTE MYSELF "krylon with all the other phones he works with yet he still has released a bunch of stuff..along with raver,honk did an aweasome job." AND "Keep up the work raver,krylon,airflip and all the other guys who bring apps,launcher to attention".I'm squarely looking at whitehawks.

So some minds only have the ability to take 1 side of a argument,I'm just saying the facts.I go For the devs and users.Aren't you a user? guet off the devs d*** lol

---------- Post added at 01:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:51 AM ----------

hahaa,now this guy got a sense of humor
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Somairotevoli:
If I could just find resources and tutorials, I can provide. everything I know at this point I've learned by googling. I have the phone, I want all these things and more for it. I am gonna do what I can as I learn it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Yeah, I get you. It's like back in the apprentice days, unless you can find someone to teach you directly you'll have a hard time learning anything. I've been planning on writing up more tutorials on using and creating Odin/Heimdall packages, CWM installer scripts and using proper syntax and formatting, best practices etc. I'd share on customizing ROMs, but I just recently started looking into it.

Can we avoid another flame fest in here? I bet we're pissing the mods off 'cause of how often they have to move/lock threads.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Caligula36:
Below im posting the responses ive received form Dr. Honk and Dsexton. Sometimes you have to reach out a little, i hope they come through big for us.

Whitehawkx in my opinion stands out that he received a phone through donations and has not developed any ROM's since Valhalla, and he chose not even to complete the task of fully developing that ROM. No matter what he chose to do with that phone, it was given to him with the express purpose of developing for this forum. All these ROMs that have been put together here have been works in progress with regular updates and modifications to further improve your experience as every new GB leak was released. Now when the official comes out, that would at least present a fully functional ROM for us to enjoy, the ball had been dropped with at least completing that part of developing stock based ROMs.

dsexton702:

drhonk:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daxecutioner24:
Dex and honk true devs right there
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
...... ok well then nm.....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Light-라이트:
@dsex. Raver feels left out. Give him some love.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daxecutioner24:
Lol rave check earlier comments,I payed my respects to your work son..it goes without saying this guy helped me out countless times on gtalk amd messages in the past!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] :
@daxecutioner24

im in no ones d**k, repressed feelings?anyway, i will for sure get off your @$$ after this. you are in both sides. you attacked white and jumped to krylons lap the moment he posted... you see i have been reading. no need to be in college to notice that.

oh yeah. you can read too. im no dev but certainly not going to throw sh!+ their way because they are not releasing the OMFG ROM vHolyCrapX based on ZJHEUARP48201554 source. its been two weeks since source release and they need time do theres no need to flood the forum with petitions and etas and blaming devs. just relax and let them do their work. even if they do something or not we can enjoy what we already have.

bah... screw these threads...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] cybok0:
now that's funny.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] neotoky:
Omg a new Bali and dsex coming back. I'm in tears :).
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] daxecutioner24:
You mad breeooo haha..take a joke loser..i dud my job i stay calm and you act like your 5..throw a fit! Im done with you.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xolanir:
Big ups to you man!!! Can't wait to see what's cooking from your kitchen. In about a month from now, things will be blazing (so says my 8-ball). In the meantime everyone just needs to take a chill pill :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Compxpert:
Good to hear the devs are still around. I just think its terrible how many of you are so impatient and somehow expect there to immediately be an MIUI/CM7 release or even a whole slew a new roms and kernels just soon as the source comes out. You do know the devs have lives of their own right? I doubt they spend every waking minute of their lives developing the roms that you enjoy so much. Be thankful there are even devs devoting their time to this phone. I know I am and I'm glad I have a SGS4G.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Locobato:
To the devs, thanks for all the hard work. Whatever your motivations for creating roms and kernels for the SGS4G I appreciate your genius and work making my phone better. Everyone else, try to be patient. The companies we paid our hard earned money to for these phones doesn't care about our demands for improvements and upgrades. And the persons that are devoting time and effort to make our wishes come true are being bombarded by demands for updates and they are not making millions off us. Just saying, I love Valhalla and was really excited at the possibility of an upgrade to the new source. But from what I'm reading White may have abandoned the SGS4G and if that's the case I'll just have to wait for the next Dev to step up and volunteer their efforts. But begging, pleading, bribing, arguing, and ranting isn't helping anyone.

Happy Holidays everyone.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
Note Early alpha data does work ringtones work wi fi works vibration kinda works audio does crash after awhile tho fixing :P Still Need to do some more localizatons.... ETA WHEN IT'S DONE!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] neotoky:
Very nice!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] RaverX3X:
actually i have to give alot of credit for the hot reboot option to whitehawk and romanbb for that :P
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] sunsurfer42:
OMG thank you thank you thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rickyc19:
So when's it gonna be done? >:-)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Compxpert:
To clarify I should correct his post with this.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rickyc19:
haha dude I was joking scrape that poop off your chest
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] tehgyb:
So raver when are we getting MIUI

/Joke
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] rickyc19:
I guess we need to start putting /joke after every joke now huh? Haha
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Compxpert:
I knew you weren't serious I was more so clarifying for those who didn't get that to be a joke or even more so in the case of people who actually would ask for an ETA.