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[Motorola Droid 3] Darksurf:
Its not necessarily the 4g they are after. Its the 1G of ram, faster processor, keyboard setup the Droid 3 should have been.
[Motorola Droid 3] i4mt3hwin:
It's still equally as ridiculous. Not every phone released is a high end phone. These companies develop midrange ones all the time. There were plenty of 512 phones being released at that time. Plus the bionic has the same processor.

And the keyboard, really? The Droid 3 keyboard was a huge step up over the 2 and Evo Slide or w/e. Should they just constantly delay the phones launch because they have people working on building better keyboards? Give me a break. Feature creep is the number one reason why companies lose money and their products are unsuccessful.

I mean this is really like people that complain their computers are obsolete after buying them. Welcome to the technology market. There are multiple teams working on multiple products.

Whatever, I don't even think 10,000 people bought the Droid 3, mostly because most of them recognized it was a terrible purchase at the time anyway. I mean I sat there and weighed the options of having a keyboard to having 1GB of ram and 4G (and most people at the time were saying the 1GB of ram wasn't really true, it was 512 for the phone 512 for the laptop dock). I choose the keyboard, but honestly the phone has other issues that bother me more than just lack of 4G. The fact that my multiple 32GB cards randomly loses music folders is way more annoying to me. That and how I'm on my third phone because the USB --> PC connection decides to stop working after lots of use.

I'm upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus as soon as possible.
[Motorola Droid 3] graffitiwriter:
Signed.
[Motorola Droid 3] tacosrdelicioso:
I also signed....
[Motorola Droid 3] jediman:
What I read there is " I hate my droid 3". How about ending the beotch fest and just sign the petition. Lol.
[Motorola Droid 3] MrObvious:
I'm not gonna sign it because I know it won't do any good. Besides the only major upgrade is the 4G to me. The extra RAM isn't needed and we can already overclock our phones to the same speed so IMO it's not a huge upgrade. The D2->D3 was a more superior upgrade because of the dual core. I got my phone running nice and the battery actually runs good enough for me to be able to go ahead and go through the day without needing a charger most of the time provided I'm in a good 3G area or have Wi-Fi. But go ahead. Besides tell me one time Verizon has actually listened to a petition?
[Motorola Droid 3] spacecasespiff:
I signed it. I hope for an early upgrade.
[Motorola Droid 3] DroidXY:
I dont know where the problem is, a new product gets realesed, if you have the money and you want it, you buy it. You should stop to care so much about your phone....its just a phone.
[Motorola Droid 3] Androidsims:
I signed it, for what it's worth. I'm fine with my droid 3 and love it. I know it won't get us anywhere but it's worth a shot.
[Motorola Droid 3] jellman:
Signed....
[Motorola Droid 3] mikedyk43:
This is just a little bit silly. Everyone that DECIDED to buy a D3 knew full well that they were compromising 4G AND 1G of RAM. If these were the things that were important to you at the time, then you could have got the Bionic. You can't blame any company for coming out with better devices too soon, you can only blame your own poor timing to make a purchase.
[Motorola Droid 3] eXecuter.bin:
Uh yeah... like this measly little petition is gonna get enough attention for Motorola wanting to lose millions of dollars on D3 owners because a few of them whined about a new phone coming out too soon.
[Motorola Droid 3] spacecasespiff:
My issue is then why buy a phone if 6 months later the same phone comes out that better. So if I buy the d4 then six months later a tripple core d5 comes out then what. Its stupid. The carriers don't care about you they want your money so the pump out these android phones as fastas they can. And stick you with there ui's and your current phone will always feel old. Now the d3 is still a good phone with its duel core but why did they come out with a d4 so soon. Makes me feel that they said oopps we should of made it 4g and more ram. So to bad for the d3 owners, so go out and get the new phone and pay full price becouse you already used your upgrade. More money in there pockets. That's why as soon as my upgrade is availible I'm getting the samsung nexus and I'm saying good buy to the carrier phone with there stupid skins and out dated software ( galaxy s is at 2.3.7 and my d3 is still at 2.3.4 and the s is a year old). And I will never look back. In fact I can't even recomend the d3 becouse of this, or any other carrier phone. Yes I know that the samsung nexus is still a carrier phone but goole is in control of it. That's why there are no stupid bloat ware on it. So the new stock look of 4.0 is so much better then any skin.
[Motorola Droid 3] i4mt3hwin:
So you're saying that these companies shouldn't produce phones so you can feel good about you having the best for a little longer? These companies are in the business to make money.

I find it amusing that people think they are entitled to stuff beyond what they've purchased. You bought a Droid 3, you got a Droid 3. Motorola doesn't owe you **** beyond what they gave you. If Motorola came out with a slightly improved Droid everyday it wouldn't and shouldn't make a difference. You knew what you were buying and you bought it. If you don't like it you have no one to blame but yourself.
[Motorola Droid 3] tacosrdelicioso:
Well, the thing is...when the iphone 4 came out...everyone who bought a 3gs like 4 or 5 months before was allowed an early upgrade. So why not us.
[Motorola Droid 3] ChristianPreachr:
I love these responses. This is great for a bored day at work.

1. Yes, you knew what you were buying. You may not have gotten exactly what you wanted, but you did get exactly what you paid for.

2. The economy is not governed by simply productivity. If that was the case, a new type of widget would be made every day because numbers would be the only thing that matters. The economy is governed by the desires of the people. While Verizon and Motorola may not care. They should provide a strong effort to give people a sporting chance. I have my Droid 3 after innumerable software issued with my D2G. Verizon gave it to me. That said, I always wanted a 4G qwerty slider. The Stratosphere is a poor substitute as its specs are last generation. Should Verizon offer Droid 3 owners something? Yes. Because its important to keep your customers happy. Case in point, I will NEVER buy another Motorola handset again. Samsung has better battery, and HTC has better UI. Keeping your customers happy is key. HTC knows this, and so does Samsung. In the next year, I suspect any device can be activated on any network, giving us more options of phones. And I'll take an Epic 4G anyday!

3. The petition may not work, but when has sitting your behind ever done anything helpful? Don't antagonize people for having hope, and standing on their principles. It is because of people with the courage to fight for what they believe that I can ride in the front of the bus. Principles are important.

4. FLAME ON!! The same people complaining about the petition, are likely the same people that vote for a party just because of the party. Or just let people walk all over them. If you feel the brown stain on your nose belongs there, good for you. Don't be upset that others have different opinions and act on them. I'd rather stand alone than sit amongst millions.

As I did not purchase the Droid 3, I have no right to sign. However, it remains true that when a new device is released, support for the current market of devices diminishes. That alone, should be enough to make you fight.
[Motorola Droid 3] Manic_Dragon:
....well said.
[Motorola Droid 3] doogald:
Not quite. AT&T let people upgrade who were five months from their official upgrade date - in other words, anybody who was due an upgrade at some point in 2010 was able to upgrade in July. That's a big difference, and almost equivalent to Verizon's official 20 month upgrade at advertised price policy.

I'm amazed that people feel entitled to an early upgrade for this reason. Is Samsung offering people who bought a Charge an early upgrade to the Nexus? Is HTC offering people who bought a Thunderbolt or Incredible 2 an early upgrade to a Rezound? Why do you think that switching from a Motorola device will be any different in the future?
[Motorola Droid 3] mikedyk43:
Not quite! The people who are speaking out against this petition are the ones that read the contract they signed and understood it. Or like myself,realized that a 4G slider was just around the corner and bought a used D3 instead of using the upgrade you only get once every two years.

It is not about standing up for your rights, it is about understanding the consequences of your actions, good or bad. If you chose to use your upgrade for a new phone, then the good is that you have a new phone, the bad is that you can't use that upgrade again for two years. Nobody buys a brand new car in July and says that it's not fair when the next years model comes out in December and has better features or is totally redesigned, so the car company owes them the newer model at a reduced price. That's ridiculous and so is this topic!
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
Uh but I'm pretty sure no car company releases a car, say, named Droid 2012.	and then 6 months later in that same year they release another model of the same car, but obviously with different improvements? what's it supposed to be named? Droid 2012 version2? that was a terrible example. Car companies don't push out another model of the same car in the same year...do you know how much money they would lose?

prob more than you make in a lifetime.

Don't call our opinions stupid. just don't sign the petition if you don't want to. we have the right to assemble if we want to. no one begged you to come and troll us.

#endrant.
[Motorola Droid 3] Androidsims:
Those of you who are okay with this are obviously okay with being **** on. It's a blatant slap in the face to us and you are taking it in stride saying, "lol i like being slapped". They intentionally released the D3 with watered down specs.

Will the petition do ****? No.

Did I sign it anyways? Yes.

Do I still love my phone? Yes.

But I don't like being **** on, Google does it right, just like Apple. One phone pretty much once a year.
[Motorola Droid 3] mikedyk43:
Hey genius, you frequently can buy next year's car model in December. If is not available to drive home you can surely order one from the dealer. I obviously used the same months in my earier post to match the release months of D3 & D4. Just like car dealers unveil next years model at the end of the year, so too do many phone manufacturers come out with a new model at year's end. Ever heard of that silly holiday where people spend a stupid amount of money so they can put presents under a tree? My point was that christmas season is no secret and to think that buying a phone in July was a safe bet is just naive.

Yeah you do have the right to your opinions and you do have the right to assemble, but people also have the right to call you out when they disagree. I spent 6 years as an Army Ranger defending those rights (You're welcome)! The bottom line is that people need to take responsibilty for their actions. Nobody forced you to buy this phone. Anyone that bought it because they don't understand market trends or just bought it even though it didn't have all the specifications you were looking for, guess what, its your own damn fault!
[Motorola Droid 3] Androidsims:
6 years here as well and if it's one thing I can't stand it's douche bags like you acting like others owe you something. We haven't defended any of America's freedoms since WWII, don't be silly.

Just lay off people, some of us are pissed, so we're *****ing. If you're not involved in the *****ing, gtfo.
[Motorola Droid 3] mikedyk43:
I seriously doubt anyone who claims to have served their country for six years would think that they defended nothing. Perhaps you posted this comment without reading anything I've said, noone OWES me anything, just like noone OWES you anything for making a poorly judged purchase. I won't even give you the dignity of insulting you back, you clearly can't understand what I'm talking about.
[Motorola Droid 3] Androidsims:
You essentially said you defended his rights to assemble and complain, even adding in a "You're Welcome!". It's pretty obvious you feel self entitled to some sort of credit since you served the country. I'm 24 years old, joined when I was 18, did a tour in Iraq in 2009. I know for a fact I didn't defend a god damn thing. Assuming you're 43 by your username, you might have been in Desert Storm so you didn't defend **** either. Just saying. Keep patting yourself on the ass though.

I'm not saying they owe me a new phone and I don't really want it, but hell, if they gave it to me for free or at a reduced price I'd probably take it.
[Motorola Droid 3] mikedyk43:
Let me clarify a little. I meant to say that we all have the right to say what we want (freedom of speech) and that those rights are defended by the military in general. I don't feel personally entitled for having served so perhaps my "you're welcome" comment was a little unneccesary.

On a side note: even if your think the deployment you served on was a complete waste of time or you don't agree with why our country is there in the first place, you should still recognize that serving in the military does have a purpose and that those who served do actually defend this country and the rights of its citizens.

By the way, I'm not 43! Although sometimes my balding head makes me feel that old.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dri94:
omg yall are all dumb. its a petition, if you dont agree just keep moving, you havnt convinced anybody who was already going to sign it not to. yea you got your freedom of speech, but your alos causing fights for no reason. your like htose people protesting the funerals of war victims, everyone knows you gotta voice doesnt mean its right, and needs to be heard on this thread. start a new thread somewhere else how stupid you think this petition is... and the only valid reason anyone here really has to sign this petition is instead of waiting a year like most phone lines do, motorola is releasing their series within months which is messed up cus then they end support a couple months after you buy the phone. THATS the only reason cause you knew the specs when you bought it so you cant complain. now shutup and sign the petition or if not, go away
[Motorola Droid 3] doogald:
Motorola just released a security update for the over-two-year-old OG Droid. The Droid Incredible just got a new GB update. The D2 Global and Droid Pro got a GB update last month. The Droid X got an OTA update in September. Etc.

The D3 will remain supported after the D4 ships. Just as the Bionic will remain supported now that the Razr came out, far closer to the Bionic's release than the D4 to the D3.
[Motorola Droid 3] Dri94:
i should rephrase my wording. they wont focus on that phone as much, and neither will the community. there will be developements but the phones like samsung s II which release a year apart, get alot more development done in the process. our is rushed, like CM7 and ICS. they are advancing fast, but rushed. People adopt phones better when the series is continued anually.
[Motorola Droid 3] jellydroid13:
i agree i publicized this petition on xda not thinking we would get early upgrades but to show vzw and moto how pissed off at them we are and i just wanna say my next phone is going to be a samsung hopefully the galaxy s3 if it comes to vzw
[Motorola Droid 3] kshen1:
I thank you for serving our country, but you're not getting my point..

people shouldn't be flaming jellydroid (especially) because he started this petition. if you agree, then sign it. if you disagree, then move along.
[Motorola Droid 3] :
I will not sign this...

I will not sign this petition mainly because I like my phone. Yes those features would be nice, but I bought my phone's 5 months ago for 60 bucks each. It was a steal for the time, and it is an excellent phone. I will upgrade in 7 months when I get my master line early upgrade, until then I will enjoy everything my Droid 3 has to offer.
[Motorola Droid 3] ChristianPreachr:
I love this phone...you should still sign. Cars come out every year, we know this. Phones aren't spoken of until they are just months from coming out. Its a bad business to release multiple upgraded phones within months. It makes customers feel cheated. Better to stand on principles than idling away on your knees. A win doesn't mean your successful, a win means you fought as hard as you could.
[Motorola Droid 3] bwolf126:
Signed.... With the quickness just like Moto did with the D3.
[Motorola Droid 3] imnotmikal:
I said this on another forum, and I'll say it again.

If the phone wasn't even named the Droid 4 (which, I don't think it should be, as it lacks the "chin" that makes a Droid, well, a Droid), then you wouldn't even think twice about it.

Phone become "outdated" the minute you buy them, and making this petition won't change the fact that Verizon wants your money. So, you'll either stick your contract out or pay full retail.
[Motorola Droid 3] phonixzero:
Edit: oops been said already =\
[Motorola Droid 3] edmann:
I signed the petition. I signed it as an exercise of my right to squeel when I'm getting f88ked. Anyone that can't tell they are being taken advantage of here has grown accustom to getting bent over. I read in this thread where someone was saying you don't have to buy the phone and no one is twisting the arm. My suggestion is to aim a little higer, look a litter deeper, because your using 3rd grade logic on an abstract problem...but then I thought maybe they are a 3rd grader. In that case I apologize. Your just nieve.
[Motorola Droid 3] danielkuhlman:
I honestly hope you guys/gals achieve what you're trying to, but I couldn't care less. Galaxy nexus, here I come. I've got to say, though, this is an extremely entertaining thread
[Motorola Droid 3] cappysw10:
Amen! *grabs popcorn*
[Motorola Droid 3] danielkuhlman:
Maybe we should care... maybe we are too "nieve" :p
[Motorola Droid 3] somemadcaaant:
I'd wait till reviews start popping up on the D4, it looks very different and may come with its own set of issues.

I don't understand what the big deal is about the Galaxy Nexus either, it's a slight speed upgrade with ICS, no keyboard and a 5mp camera? Sounds like a downgrade to me.

You ppl are way too compulsive lol D3 working great here with great battery life and soon to have ICS well before the D4.

-smc
[Motorola Droid 3] Accophox:
The big draw of the nexus is first to receive updates. Though, the lack of NFC Google wallet is troubling.

As far as the rest of y'all are complaining about... get over it. There's no way that big red's going to do anything regarding this situation. You guys are stuck with your D3's until upgrade time. And, you'll have access to stock ICS sooner than the D4 will.
[Motorola Droid 3] DroidXY:
So all of you are already with the Droid 4? LOL

Had to do that, sry
[Motorola Droid 3] Lyxdeslic:
Forget Motorola, I'm done with them. I've had my Droid 3 since July, and I'm on my 13th replacement. Only one of the replacements was my fault, I can guarantee you that 100%.

That doesn't even bother me that much though, considering the Droid 3 I have now is working fine. However, this phone was an impulse upgrade from the Droid 2, and I'm realizing what Motorola's strategy is these days: quantity over quality.

Personally, I'm going with the Nexus. I love ICS, and I absolutely adore the resolution on that phone. Couldn't care less about the camera. If you want a good camera, get a digital Sony. I could never imagine replacing my 400 dollar camera with a phone that takes 5 seconds to take a picture...eff that nonsense. Besides, at least the Galaxy Nexus takes pics as fast as the iPhone does. I don't give a crap about a 3 megapixel difference if the payoff is instant-picture-capturing.

Last time I tried to take a picture of my baby nephew doing something funny...it took 5 seconds to load the camera app, another 3 to adjust to the light conditions, and another 5 to capture the photo. By that time, the kid was asleep.

EDIT: The Droid 4 is a Razr with a keyboard, right? Sounds awesome, since the Razr is a solid phone. Oh but wait, the Droid 4 won't be Super-AMOLED. Awesome, a DOWN-GRADE. Sounds typical of Motorola/Verizon. No really, screw all the Droid phones. Get a Nexus and be happy with your phone for the next 2 years.
[Motorola Droid 3] Willis111:
So, when intel goes from their i-series process to "j-series" or whatever the heck in 2 months are you gonna start a petition for that? I'd love a new computer, I bought my laptop 6 months ago and acer released a few newer models. Why wont technology stand still! You bought a droid 3, they've been out for like a year now, you have a year old phone! Stop qqing because you bought a phone last year and it's not new this year...
[Motorola Droid 3] Cdjones187:
Try 6 months, and this thread was made at the end of November (so only 4 1/2 months at the time). I could care less about getting a new phone, and I'm sure others wouldn't mind either if the bootloader was unlocked. But where you get a year old is beyond me.. lol.

So instead of signing this pointless petition, sign one that everyone will benefit from.

http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
[Motorola Droid 3] Willis111:
If that's what they wanted then they shouldn't have bought a phone with 512m of ram in the first place. It wasn't hidden. The same processor @ different clock speed is irrelevant and a slightly different keyboard? Honestly, if you didn't want a droid 3 because it had crappy specs why did you buy it? Again, it's a comparision between core 2 duo and i-series processors. Different generation, different model and I don't feel entitled to an i-series because i only bought my dual core 6 months ago....
[Motorola Droid 3] wumpyny:
I'm not even fighting, Love my 3 and really don't care either way but I will sign it on general purpose that phone companies give the chance will screw you anyway possible. I had to fight with Verizon to keep my unlimited data when I added a phone, so sure.. why not!
[Motorola Droid 3] gettinDownInDurango:
I've had my Droid3 for probably at least 6 months now, and I've been fairly satisfied with the hardware. Sure, there are better, faster phones out there. My phone is not rooted, and my carrier is Verizon. I don't live in an area that has 4g, as do many other people, so having this capability for my mobile device isn't a worry for me. I mainly utilize wifi.

Anyways, let me get to my point.

There has been a fair improvement in performace between Gingerbread and ICS- when being run on the same hardware. I don't think that Motorola should be responsible for providing monetary compensation, or hardware upgrades for the Droid3 simply because they released better technology right after they released the Droid3... but I do think that Motorola should add the Droid3 to the list of devices that they will ge releasing a stable ICS upgrade for. This would definitely not cost Motorola millions of dollars to do, but it would be a nice way for them to not completely ignore the users of a phone that still isn't that old, and is arguably not outdated at all.

I'll sign this petition, but with only 315 supporters, I don't think that it'll really do much.

Hopefully, some of the unofficial ICS roms for the Droid3 that I've read about people developing will be better and less buggy in the future.