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[HTC Titan] jcronkhite:
These issues must be taken seriously by HTC/AT&T

I've read through this thread and have tried everything. Thanks all for the great feedback. Showing up this late on the thread has saved me a lot of time. Still, I don't think there will be a viable solution until HTC and/or Microsoft release appropriate patches to address these issues.

My main concern at this point is the WiFi reliability (or lack thereof). I own many smartphones, all of which work on my wireless N network. These include iOS, Android, and one other Windows Phone (the original Focus), so I'm feeling good about placing the blame on HTC. It's probably a driver issue. I'm speculating, of course, but given the fact that different combinations of antenna states (on/off) seem to impact the effectiveness of WiFi, it could be a driver for any of them or a combination of some. Long story short, I'm not holding my breath on a swift fix from HTC.

I'm also having the disappearing keyboard issue once in a while, but I can deal with that one, only because the WiFi issue hurts so much more. The 4G (HSPA+) is much slower than it should be for me. Until last Wednesday, I was using a Motorola Atrix 4G that was incredibly fast. I'm not thinking AT&T is throttling Titan phones, but rather there are some obvious antenna issues that need fixing and are probably impacting overall signal quality regardless of type (WiFi, 4G, etc.).

Just to add to the basket of data, my Titan does have a tethering plan associated with it which I have yet to utilize. I have only owned the phone since January 5th, and still my issues presented themselves right away. My WiFi setup consists of a Belkin Wireless N router using WPA2-Personal with AES for authentication.

UPDATE:

I've tested the WiFi on a handful of networks and now I feel like perhaps the metal enclosure is having an impact on the WiFi range. Turning antennas on and off just results in the same inconsistent results as leaving things alone (at least for me). When I'm close enough to my router, the Titan works beautifully. When I'm downstairs, my connection is unreliable. The Samsung Focus I have works no matter where I am, which has a thin plastic enclosure.

As for the HSPA+ slowness, it seems that my home signal isn't that great. It performed well outside of my house. I also ran a tethered speed test and was seeing speeds between 4-5 mbps down and 1.3 up. I good with that.

The disappearing keyboard has also surfaced, but it's really not that annoying (yet).

Last, the audio sounds terrible if I don't keep SRS enabled. This is the opposite of what I've read from other users.

Overall, I love the phone and don't see any problem worth returning it for at this point. Hopefully my assessments are good enough to hold true and not haunt me later.
[HTC Titan] oilpressure:
The disappearing keyboard issue has cropped up for me as well. It must have something to do with the way the OS handles software interrupts between running and background tasks/apps.
[HTC Titan] mike21pr:
My problem is a bit different. My issue isnt the reconnecting for be but maintaining data traffic... This is my second Titan (traded first for a SGS2 and returned) but on this phone im having a weird issue where randomly (and often) my Titan wont pull any data from my wifi network. Its connected and all but suddenly it gets stuck loading a page or buffering a video etc. where its stuck like there is no data connection or something. I always toggle wifi on and off to get it going again or unplug/plug the router. Has this ever happened? I just want to know if there is something in my Titans antenna or is it the router because I never has this issue before with previous phones including my first Titan... 3G/HSPA works flawlessly though
[HTC Titan] fastie:
Hi, I have same problem + reconnectin issue. As much as I love wp7 titan is going on ebay now, cant live with that anymore. Htc foocked big time.
[HTC Titan] mike21pr:
Can anyone determine if its a hardware or software issue? If its software, then its fixable... hardware, sold
[HTC Titan] mike21pr:
Update: As suggested in this thread, I disabled celular data when Im at home where im usually connected to my wifi, and I have yet to have a stall/data hangup. IMHO its definitely software issue or driver issue where something happens toggling between cel data and wifi when both available where it just screws something up. I hope AT&T or HTC addresses this before before the Lumia 900 is released or... *you can guess the rest*

Still love my Titan though
[HTC Titan] z_rudy:
I came in late to this thread but yes, I have a Russian Titan, which is like the UK one. Sometimes, Wifi would not work and I have to turn off the data connection for it to work. Seems like an OS problem, where it is still routing through the data connection (which doesn't work properly in my house).
[HTC Titan] theniaky:
FYI, I thought it was hopeless so I tried a hard reset (very annoying) and it seems to fix my WiFi problem !

Since 4/5 hours I can use it without any lag or disconnection. I'll tell you more in a few hours...

[EDIT] I confirm : WiFi problem is now fixed !
[HTC Titan] crmb:
I also have the wifi "hang" problem.

WiFi + 3G = regular hangs. The Wifi doesn't seems to drop/disconnect, i have the full signal strength everytime. But the connection is dead.

I have the problem even under 1 meter of the access point.

I don't think it's an signal/antenna issue. Sound more like some bug
[HTC Titan] ktdan1:
I have the ATT USA version of the phone and have not run into any real, data switcing problem between WiFi and phone data usage.

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but I tell you this, 3FT or 1 meter or closer next to a WiFi is not going to help, back off a bit, that is way too close.
[HTC Titan] z_rudy:
I suggest you go to HTC UK's support site and explain your problem to them. I did that, and so did some other people. If HTC get enough cases of this, they will rush to a fix faster.
[HTC Titan] Strike_Eagle:
I am so happy right now because i didn't trade my UK Titan for ATT's one because almost all customer at AT&T is having various of minor problem while mine run completely fine. :D
[HTC Titan] crmb:
EDIT

I found this : http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...c43-8181-28482fb207b6?page=1&tm=1328664675371

If you read the answers, they talk about the not working wifi with data enabled

If you have the Wifi / Data "conflict" i suggest you to post a message here
[HTC Titan] kwill:
Same crap here. My data just drops as for wifi. It shows connected, just no data passing through. Disabling and re-enabling wifi usually fixes it. Problem was on 8170 also, so I rolled back to 7720. No difference really. And yep, cellular data is slow as lots of people have already reported. I'm about to send the phone for replacement as it's getting annoying.
[HTC Titan] ArtieQ:
I loss my wifi connection all the time, to get it back on I gotta go to wifi settings and it automatically finds and connects to the network again. No cellular data on so that isn't the issue.
[HTC Titan] ballgate:
I just flashed the 8773 ROM, it can't connect wifi while I was talking on the phone!
[HTC Titan] eeeelliott:
I remember reading somewhere that the data-over-wi-fi issue was thought to be caused by activating internet sharing. I know that the first time you turn it on it changes some registry values, so maybe one of them affects the wi-fi. I have never used internet sharing and don't have the issue. Can anyone else confirm this?
[HTC Titan] cadimos20:
Wifi dont turn on

Hi everybody

I'm new in the place, but i love cellphones and systems, first i would to know, if anyone knows, where is locate the wifi antenna of the HTC Titan cellphone, i say that because my htc lost wifi, and dont turn on, i simple dont have no wifi at Big Smartphone, this is frustrating, i think the back cover is the antenna for the wifi but i dont have anyone friend owner a HTC phone to make a test.

If anybody have this problem, lost completely signal and the symbol of wifi dont appear, please help me, because i live in brasil and the htc is poor here.

OBS: I even tryed reset, hard reset, upgrade, downgrade and dont work, the results are the same.

Thank to everybody
[HTC Titan] jenrique15:
I think is in the battery cover, have some little holes.
[TouchPad General] yazyazoo:
I have both running on my tablet. I am going to leave WebOS for me to use and CM7 for the children to use for games and movies.

How can I transfer Movies, Music, etc to the Touchpad and let by OS's have access to the movies or music.

Would I need to creat a folder that is shared between the two OS's?

Thanks.
[TouchPad General] Moon2:
Anything you transfer into the touchpad via the "USB Drive Mode" (on WebOS) or the "USB Storage Mode" (on Android) can be seen by both webos and android; so there's no need to make a folder, just copy what you need over.
[Atrix 4G General] saiftheboss7:
I've been using Android for just a week. My first android is Motorola Atrix.

I haven't used any other Android set. So I can't compare which is better. Besides, I've read so many many bad/worst reviews of Motoblur! Why MOTOBLUR Sucks?
[Atrix 4G General] againareku:
It doesn't, but that's my opinion. And trust me, our opinion is the minority. I run stock 2.3.4 rooted with all system apps frozen, but i leave blur as is. It's never bothered me. Love the messaging app, the universal inbox, the connected music player, the built in photo editor, the call log and contact list, and the dialer.

Once you unlock bootloader and root, remove all the preloaded apps, switch your kernel, apply a theme, flash the new radio...it's amazing. Lots of people started out on either Sense [HTC] or vanilla android so for them there's not going back

me, it's the other way around, I started on blur and go to vanilla or sense and I'm like "what? where is this supposed to be?" And I don't see why they hate blur still, the atrix version is so much lighter than the original, the launcher is tiny, the UI is so much more clean..
[Atrix 4G General] saiftheboss7:
Rooted & will soon unlock the bootloader. I've plan to install CM7 once it gets stable releases. BTW whats the radio thing?
[Atrix 4G General] Moonshield:
The Blur sucks, coz' it sucks.... :confused:

Just as the TouchWiz sucks, and the LG interface sucks....

The only UI that works good is the Sense, and its problem that it is heavy like a fat lady! Only if you have a strong device it will not interfere with the normal use, otherwise it will cause lags and so.

I personally prefer vanilla roms on all the above, it is the best and lightest of all. and adding to it the Go Launcher will yield a superfast device with all the goods from all the other UI.

Again this is my personal thoughts, it doesnt necessarily means it right, just that it is what I like :cool:
[Atrix 4G General] againareku:
Unlock the bootloader first

then you want to do with kernel, I switched from faux to clemsyn because of the lag [but both are great, try both, run your own tests and pick which one works best]

Remember with the kernels pick the enhance 1.0 ghz for att, not the cm7 ones

the radio is in the fruit cake thread, look up the 2.3.5 one and flash it, should help with wifi wake and signal...since you are clean I would go ahead and do the whole 2.3.5 fruit cake

I'm in the minority of opinion, but cm7 doesn't really add anything to the atrix. I use it on the backflip, the cliq xt, but I find it to be less responsive than stock and maybe it's just me but the image quality itself looks better on stock

the good thing is once you are unlocked and have the right recovery installed, switching between all of these is very easy, so whatever you like best shouldn't be hard to go back to
[Atrix 4G General] WiredPirate:
O rly? That's the least informed opinion of CM I have ever heard.
[Atrix 4G General] Jotokun:
Blur used to have a confusing and shockingly sluggish UI. However, with the 2.3 update Motorola completely redid blur and now its much better. Its still a little slower than vanilla, but its actually usable now. A lot of the hate was over the old version and what's left is from sense fanboys or people who hate skins in general.

Not saying there's anything wrong with that, I don't like manufacture skins myself.
[Atrix 4G General] genomorro:
Anybody knows how to erase a motoblur account? I don't use it anymore. Thanks.
[Atrix 4G General] Andy_Thatcher:
There is no right or wrong on this.

Just personal opinion, it is your phone after all you do what you want and set it up that best suites you.

I tend to go along with most of the other posters on this thread. I have used CM7 on HTC's and Samsung's as I really do not like their stock interfaces.

Before buying the Atrix I thought Blur would be the same and on launch it was but we couldn't do a lot about it as we had a locked bootloader.

By the time CM7 was launched we had a few ROM's on Gingerbread and much to my surprise I tend to find myself using Blurred ROM's in preference to CM7. This is by no way knocking CM7 as it is fantastic and the work the Dev's on here have put into it is awesome but for me there are upsides to Blur.

The Social Messaging widget and all in one Messaging are things that I have become reliant on. SocialScope may provide an alternative to Social Messaging but it isn't as yet as well crafted.

Do I have a backed up copy of CM7 on my SD Card ? Of course. I switch regularly but Blurred Aura is my daily driver.

Remember that we are the vast minority of people that have this phone and there are thousands of people out there that running stock happily. That is fine you seem to be bitten by the same bug that others that visit and post here though in wanting to see what the device is capable of. Do that but remember it is your phone and your set up is yours. Doesn't matter what opinion I hold or anybody else.
[Atrix 4G General] Gutterball:
Yeah one thing is for sure! The old backflip blur was completely horrible but the newer atrix blur really is a hell of a lot better! I think basically everyone has gotta admit that! Blur has definetly improved since its inception! I dealt with the old blur and it sucked bad!!

As far as cm7 or blur?? I use both. I keep a nandroid backup of darkside with a little blur and cm7 and switch between them depending what I have need for at the moment. I like having all options available.
[Atrix 4G General] JdgM3NT4L:
The older MotoBlur that was included on the phone when it first rolled out did suck. Badly. But with the 2.3.4 update Motorola toned Blur down. At least visually. And in my experience the new version doesn't impact the battery as bad as the last one did. It is now easier to use and looks more 'Android'. I was a Blur hater. But now I am good with it.

Apologies to the op for this. I'm not trying to hijack the thread or change focus. But I am positively curious.

And, I know that this is a loaded question, and that I am asking for some serious CM7 user backlash type trouble by posting it... But wth, I'll bite.

What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...

Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!

But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????

I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.
[Atrix 4G General] _Dennis_:
Notification bar switches

Lockscreen option

Audio options

Performance options/enhancements

Comes free of bloatwear

Application permission filtering

Tweaks to UI

Oh and a trackpad (use of fingerprint reader as navigation trackpad on weekly 2&3)
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
@OP Use another Android device or 2 and you'll see why MOTOBLUR SUCKS!

First its the only software that's an absolute SLOTH. The bloat eats memory and slows down a dual core to single core at times.

Second Motoblur tries to control too much on MY PHONE. Whoyle I have to create a Moroblur account in order to receive software upgrades? Why should I have to enter a password into my phone if I change my SIM?

This will be my one and only Motoblur phone. If Motorola drops the MB BS, then I'm completely on board. If not, pass...
[Atrix 4G General] againareku:
You said it yourself, the bloat eats memory

The bloat is put there by AT&T not Motorola. With everything unessential frozen idle I have 500-600 mb free ram

And the motoblur account is for universal inbox, social media intergration, and FREE security features [that you would otherwise pay for $2-$10 a month]

It's as stupid about complaining that you need to sign up for a google account to download apps, use the google nav, or check your gmail
[Atrix 4G General] saiftheboss7:
I'm waiting for CM7 stable release! Can't wait to put it on my phone! :D

btw I like the stock 2.3.4 ROM also! :)
[Atrix 4G General] Moonshield:
If your BL is unlocked you can try the weekly from the 23/11, its very stable and has nice features (FP scanner workes for unlock and as trackball).

here is the link:

http://code.google.com/p/atrix-dev-team/downloads/list

Have fun :cool:
[Atrix 4G General] sk8trix:
Well.....Blur does suck harder than a collapsed star...but it has some useful things to it including social media,ofcourse I don't use any of that so I went over to CM7.Blur is just really slow and bloated especially when you don't want to use any of the included apps and stuff,now if you love the features blur brings then by all means stay there then but if you want a stock android experience and want performance at the cost of a few apps here and there try some of the de-blurred roms or maybe cm7 if you want extra goodies
[Atrix 4G General] WiredPirate:
Just a teaser of what CM REALLY ADDS to the Atrix:

btw I took this screenshot with CM natively by holding down the 'power' button, no third party app needed.
[Atrix 4G General] Deggy:
If MOTOBLUR sucked any harder, I'd orgasm.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Funny that I don't have to deal with any of that BS on my SGS. I am the farthest thing from being a Samsung fanboy, and I use both of my phones equally. With that said, it's night and day difference of what goes on with both phones.

BTW I don't have AT&T I have Bell, and there's really not that much carrier bloat from them. The bloat that "was" there I have frozen with TiBu...
[Atrix 4G General] :
I have never used blur, but I have coworkers with Droid X's and Droid X2's stock and they hate their phones because they are so laggy. Some I have been able to convince to let me load custom roms, others don't want to root but I can usually get them to at least install an aftermarket launcher. All of them say it makes their phones so much faster (especially the custom rom loaders) and have experienced better battery life.
[Atrix 4G General] sendust7:
I got impatient with Motoblur's file transfer utility. So I rooted my phone and installed SwiFTP Server (free). Now I just open an FTP port using SwiFTP and drag-drop files wirelessly using FileZilla. It's reasonably fast over LAN.
[Atrix 4G General] sanriver12:
13 Ways CyanogenMod 7 Makes My Android Phone Feel Future-Proof

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-7-makes-my-android-phone-feel-future-proof/

seems more work than installing dropbox and such apps...
[Atrix 4G General] noodsquared:
Personally, I am okay with Blur but at the same time they removed it from Atrix 2 from my understanding and it's not that different. IMHO.
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
Laggy, all based around social networking stuff which I could care less for. Not the latest version of Android, hardly customizable, have to flash zips to theme, pretty bad preformance (guess that goes with laggy) ugly, and the biggest reason for me is it's not Cyanogenmod, lol.
[Atrix 4G General] kulthuzard:
I think blur is still more stable as i get the suspend bug when using non blur roms
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
+1

Spot on response man... :)
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
Did I say I used them? No. I said it is all based around social networking stuff...so more features about that which I care less about and less good aosp features. If you are using Blur you aren't getting a good Android experience. Cyanogenmod is aosp plus extra really nice features. In Blur it's like they took most everything good away and left you with a bunch of useless ugly crap.

And woah man, why such a rude comment? You're acting like I insulted your mother...

Honestly you shouldn't talk like this on xda to other members...joking or not.
[Atrix 4G General] saiftheboss7:
You shouldn't talk like this man! :mad:
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
lol Chinese porn? This thread just made my day.

In all seriousness, can we have an adult discussion here without devolving into a flame war about which rom is better?

"Good Android experience" is subjective. Some people find the extra features baked into Blur useful. Some people can't leave the WebTop behind. Some people (myself included) don't find the stock rom any slower/faster than CM7.

Some people want more tweaking options. Some people like a stripped rom. Some people have never even tried to download an app. Some people can't live without the theming options in CM7.

This site is all about learning and hacking. Go take your Blur vs. CM7 vs. AOSP flame war somewhere else. If you do want to have a serious discussion about features and pros/cons, then by all means please stick around.
[Atrix 4G General] mraxido:
What did you mean with some people?
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
*looks over at my Motorola Milestone*

The GSM version of the Motorola Droid, and yes stock "vanilla"...
[Atrix 4G General] filthyfnj24:
Don't forget about the theme chooser! One of my personal favorites :)
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
I meant that everyone has their own preferences. I happen to prefer Blur, but it doesn't really matter to me what anyone else uses. CM7 is nice, but I can't live without Webtop.
[Atrix 4G General] saiftheboss7:
If Webtop comes to CM7 what will you do? Will you stick at stock or jump to CM7?
[Atrix 4G General] stewartsoda:
I'll go back and forth for a while and see which I prefer. I did the same thing before I got my lapdock.
[Atrix 4G General] nunjabusiness:
I am hoping my Atrix will be delivered tomorrow and have been planning to give the stock setup a test drive for at least a few days to see what I thought.

Now I am thinking I may not have a choice. I definitely plan to get a lapdock so I guess I can't switch ROMs right away.

No biggie as long as I can install my Market and Amazon apps but can I assume the WebTop support is being worked on by the CM guys?

I sure do want some ICS goodness when a ROM is ready. I will absolutely rock that as soon as it's available and I'm pretty sure that when it is, CM will be behind it.

So the n00b question I would ask is "can't blur be turned off?":confused:
[Atrix 4G General] saiftheboss7:
Yeah they are working on that. No...Blur can't be turned off completely.
[Atrix 4G General] Aienka1987:
i´m using MotoBlur and i think it is very nice...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] crossover37:
So I put Cyanogen 7 on my Galaxy S II. My tap-to-focus doesn't work in the camera though. I tried looking through the settings but can't fix it. The camera focuses only after I press the button to take the picture. Please help.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] eddies92:
Because CM7 is AOSP derived, to the best of my knowledge, AOSP doesn't have that feature. Features like that are incorporated.

I had a samsung moment from sprint that was "vanilla android" and it couldnt do it either so im basing my assumptions off that.

Somebody please correct me if im wrong