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[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
I just don't understand the logic of the community sometimes...

When it comes to things like HTC locking the bootloader, and we try to "rally the troops", people try to stop us and say "we're (rooted users) only .1% of the users, 10000 times more people are not rooted, so HTC won't care"

But when data speeds come into play, somehow the "abusers of the unlimited data" (a fraction of us .1% rooted users - must be rooted to tether) are bogging down the entire sprint network?

Face the fact, your slow speeds are a result of lack of quantity/quality equipment from sprint. Don't blame the people that are fortunate enough to be in an area where they can actually tether, blame sprint for not keeping up with consumers.

I couldn't tether if I wanted to. The best speed I can get at 99.99% of the time is 300 kbs (not kBs). There's one place within 65 miles that I can get 4g, and its at my local sprint store, because they have a tower literally right behind the store...funny how that worked out huh? Having the only Wimax tower (within a 60 mile radius) directly behind the store that you sell 4g phones...
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
I don't think we are blaming all the problems on just people abusing data, because you are right there is far more than just one problem. The problem is essentially two main things, and you could fit lots more subsets of problems under one of those two categories. Equipment, and traffic. I don't think your numbers are representative of the actual statistics, but your point is still taken and valid.

It doesn't help the situation when people abuse their service though. Sprint has too many customers with unlimited data for the quality and quantity of their equipment, and that is the point theOP was making. If circumstances were different unlimited data would work fine, but they aren't, so it isn't working. Now if sprint actually rolls 4g out to cover as many people as they say it will then the unlimited is going to work out better than it does now. The increased 4g will take load off the current 3G equipment, and both "networks" will function better. They are on a backbone that certainly can handle that traffic, we just need to offload some of the traffic to separate equipment and data streams to reduce the huge bottle necks. I mean when you have far higher upload streams than download you know the backbone isn't the issue, it's their ****acular equipment and congestion making a huge bottle neck before the backbone. A process only runs as smoothly as its weakest link, and in this case the **** equipment or lack thereof.
[HTC EVO 3D] ekz13:
wasnt' that their excuse for "premium data experience" that most of us aren't seeing. I'm sorry, but capping/throttling won't solve anything except to put more money in their pockets.

@Vinchenzop... agree 100%, was just thinking the same thing

We scream at HTC for a bootloader, but to our carriers we say, "sure we'll bend over and take it anytime you want to change something" and claim, You should've read the contract... sorry but the contract works both ways. they agree to provide a service, unlimted data.. I think it's pretty poor to say that you shouldn't stream youtube or pandora, or whatever cause it hogs the network. So then what am I using a smartphone for?? why bother if they can't support what I WANT to do on MY PHONE?? they have already gone from luxury item to neccesity for most people and the carriers know that they have you so they will change what ever they want and laugh about the consumer.
[HTC EVO 3D] Akasa Fox:
Both you and Vin make good points. I, for one, would never torrent over my cellular connection. I just want to have decent speeds for once, and maybe a little 4G coverage here and there, but I don't even need 4G yet. I want to be able to stream a youtube video without having to leave it waiting for 2 minutes so it can buffer.

My 3G coverage is spotty at best, I took a trip down to Kentucky and I had 3G about 2/5th of the time. If Sprint drops unlimited data then I'm dropping Sprint, simple as that.

On an added note, I got around 30-40 kbps around campus before a tower upgrade. Now I get a *GOOD* 300 kbps if I'm lucky.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
That is a damn shame, and I'm in the same boat (except I never, ever get 4g coverage). Right now the only thing sprint has going for them is unlimited data, because the data you do transfer is slow as grandma diving a dump truck. I would happily trade my unlimited data for uber fast data though. I will never support data throttling like Tmobile does, but I would happily pay for tiered data plans. Hell they could even provide an unlimited data plan as top tier data, but for god sakes we need some speed!
[HTC EVO 3D] ClanUrdnot:
He is. He thinks its absurd to use over 5GB per month. That's what people said back in 1998.
[HTC EVO 3D] chowder25:
I'm ok with 10 also..my daughter streams YouTube and hits 5+ per month
[HTC EVO 3D] Quis89:
How is that possible?! Do you put your phone down? Between heavy emails, music album downloads, apps and browsing I barely break 5 gb. How do you touch 11 gb with such usage?!
[HTC EVO 3D] Quis89:
I guess heavy YouTube burns high amounts of data?
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
I have to wonder that too. What kind of backdoor opening trojans you have running and hijacking your internet connection? You must either be watching 3 hours of you tube a day or you are the victim of connection hijacking, not even kidding!

Back when TV stream app was allowed on the market I wasn't hitting that kind of use watching 4 30 minute episodes of mash a day
[HTC EVO 3D] SkuzFoz:
As someone who consistently uses 350MB every month, I do wish it was faster.

I'll probably switch carriers when my contract is up, but I don't expect or wish Sprint to change.
[HTC EVO 3D] xeper:
It's ridiculous to think it's the users' problem and not Sprint's.

Yes people use a lot of data, but if their infrastructure can't handle that, that's Sprint's fault for not being forward-thinking enough or willing to invest enough in infrastructure that's so limited when the devices are so data hungry.

Sprint saw the writing on the wall when iPhone 3G came out and AT&T across the country ground to a halt.

If they sat idly by and said 'it won't happen to us' that's somehow my fault for tethering at the airport or hotel? Ridiculous.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
I work on the road.. I travel atleast 300 miles a day and send A LOT of emails and also take a lot of pictures/videos and upload them to YouTube,Facebook,flickr,Twitter,and sending them through emails... Let alone watching videos/netflix on long trips when I'm not driving... Reading and downloading many small files from the market or internet....

Thus why I cam back to the 3d from sgs2.... My phone is a very important lifeline and/or entertainment system and the LOS and poor signal in any place made me buy another 3d... :)

It's not like I'm just sitting in my house watching YouTube videos when I have a perfectly fine laptop/tv and home internet
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
640kb should be more than enough!
[HTC EVO 3D] NewZJ:
bill gates didn't really say that
[HTC EVO 3D] z50king:
How do you guys know how much data you are using per month? is it listed somewhere?
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
If u login its on there somewhere
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Log into your sprint account, and look for "usage details"
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Thanks for finishing my crappy answer couldn't remember n didn't have time to look lol
[HTC EVO 3D] NewZJ:
i have an app called traffic monitor, it logs my monthly usage as well as app usage, i have it set to reset monthly data on my bill cycle, it keeps a total log also so it can track trends. its a neat widget too and has a built in speed tester
[HTC EVO 3D] hitman4274:
yep.....

they will keep the unlimited, just the way it is.. they are stand alone in the unlimited market and plan to keep it that way.....
[HTC EVO 3D] mjcole2003:
Do they notify you when you are being throttled?
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Yes
[HTC EVO 3D] ninten5:
Those who use the sprint connection for online gaming, home internet use, downloading torrents and such what signal do you use? 3g or 4g? I've never seen more than 500kbps, I can barely even stand to use my phone in a non-wifi place :eek:

I just treat my 3g as if it didn't exist, I use 70,000 KB that right KB!:p
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
I basically do the same you do. I barely use any sprint data. Too slow. I'd like to know the speed test results for the people complaining they would never tolerate limited data. I have a feeling they are the ones with the decent speeds, and in that case fug u, have some cake and eat it too lol ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
Here's mine at home...note, I don't even get 3g....thanks sprint
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
yeah, except you are doing a speed test from a testing location in Belize. Try one more local
[HTC EVO 3D] Vinchenzop:
That was to Columbus, Ohio...but here's after I change the server to New York...
[HTC EVO 3D] johnequickiii:
The thing is, I've heard them say in their recent commercials that they DON'T throttle at all. It was one of their major selling points in the commercial, in addition to no data cap. I'll try to find a copy of it and post a link to it here.

If they really do throttle, but expressly say they don't in national advertising, then I think there's some sort of lawsuit here, like false advertising or something.

Just a thought.

If I do find the commercial though, I'll definitely post it.

By the way, I have WiFi at home, which I use on my phone. When I'm out though, I'm on 3G, no 4G near me. The speed sucks. Even on my Hero the 3G was pretty good, but on this phone it seems to suck for some reason, and I didn't move anywhere different since. Weird.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
Yeah it is blatant false advertising, but they get around it because they are "provisioning" accounts so that one user can't have access to more bandwidth than others and suck up bandwidth from others. It is throttling though but every data provider does this so they can get away with it. Their network its so bad that it is necessary though
[HTC EVO 3D] NewZJ:
I've only heard of them giving more bandwidth to the business customers, hearing that regular consumers get throttled its new to me, even when i had a month of 50gb i still had full speed
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
They don't throttle for overage, because there is none. They can terminate service if you constantly use a lot of data, but the throttling is done to everyone. Business customers get throttled less though
[HTC EVO 3D] z50king:
There is no throttling back. They will however send you a letter in the mail if you have a few months of obviously high 20gB tethering and you don't pay extra for it. Once you get that letter they have flat drop you from service. I have heard of it happening to friends on here
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
Whose this ''bill gates'' you speak of? :P

I know they don't throttle over in MO. It's funny how 3G is poor here in Waynesville, but the 4G rocks.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zabalba:
Here is an article illustrating how much of the mysterious boogey data monster user is a myth.

Please stop with the false meam.

I wonder how many people out there using Sprint would embrace throttling/caps when they start sending surveys asking if they would be cool with it.
[HTC EVO 3D] willy900wonka:
It seems to me that if the plans weren't unlimited users would have recourse to legally seek remuneration for the impact of the "extra device" data being collected and sent to apps and Sprint and Htc and ciq.

Yes many apps send data to collection hosts.

Sort of makes a joke out of the permissions list - permission to collect data.

Google will never list in market, any indicator of whether an app sends collected data.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
Thanks for the post. While the article does have merit, it is not an accurate portrayal of what happens when you use wireless internet. The article you posted is true of all WIRED internet connections. While I do agree that the "bandwidth hog" is not all of the problem, it isn't fair to use that article to support your claim. Sprint has a bad network, yes. Sprint needs to increase the efficiency of its network, yes. Sprint needs to increase capacity, yes. Capping data won't solve all problems, yes. Bandwidth hogs don't affect the network, no.

In a wireless network you also have to account for the overhead and physical limitations of a wireless network. If you look through all the pages of this thread you will see over and over that I say the backbone (wired part of network) is not the problem. Capping data doesn't fix the problems that cause slow speed on a wired network, but it sure does help a wireless network. More users among other things means more interference. Just like a microwave in your house will disrupt your wifi network and picture on your TV, just having more people using data around you interferes with your own data usage.

I'm not saying you are completely wrong, and that sprint does not have some major work to do. That would be asinine. Just look at how well Verizon's data network functions. They have the right equipment, in the right places, and they have lots of it to take care of wireless overhead. I am saying though that the article you posted is indicative of wired broadband, and not as accurate when trying to apply it to wireless internet.
[HTC EVO 3D] dannyboyex:
Same article on Tech Crunch. I don't see how having a 5GB data cap would help as most people don't use that much. There would only be real improvements if the cap were very low like <1GB. Then there would be less people on the network.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
Well it is just going to depend on how many people you have over a small geographic region. The problem is not from the 95%, but the top 5%-10%, they use the majority of the bandwidth. If that top 10% are close together in a small region, and you also are in that region you are going to be affected negatively. If you are 3000 miles from a group like that and only close to the 90% you are more likely, assuming good network equipment, to have decent speeds.

See this is where wired and wireless network topologies differ. Wired users don't have the overhead to worry about. Where wired networks can tie directly to a large hub, directly to backbone bandwidth is nearly unlimited, and cheap cheap cheap. You could be sharing a hub with someone 1000+ miles from you. Wireless networks don't get to be so lucky.
[HTC EVO 3D] dannytill:
speeds are more than adequate

middle of the day test 11:40 am eastern I don't know where they get 4:40 pm from

quit *****in'

and I rarely use over 5GB a month but if I do so what they advertise unlimited
[HTC EVO 3D] ekz13:
4:40 GMT not EST

EST+5=GMT
[HTC EVO 3D] dannytill:
:) thanks figured it was something like that. I probably should have just googled GMT
[HTC EVO 3D] ekz13:
no worries, ironic though, they can tell you what server your pinging from but not what the time zone is :D
[HTC EVO 3D] notown775:
How can you throttle sub 150k downloads? LoLz

!!what a sensation!!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] 900SS:
The over the air update downloads then fails to flash.

I am rooted, just to remove useless apps.

I have a polish plus note:

pda: n7000xxkj4

phone: n7000xxkj4

csc: n7000plskj3

anyone else have this problem?.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] HTC Chris:
I have this issue and there's 2 threads about it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Twohothardware:
Try updating the firmware with Kies instead of OTA.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] foxmeister:
The usual reason for this is because the updates are patches, and expect to be applied to an unchanged system partition.

The update scripts will try to validate that the files to be patches exist and are unchanged, so by amended or deleting files from /system, your phone won't pass the validation checks.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] HTC Chris:
Well just updated mine through kies, still have root, no issues :).

Edit: actually lost root but rooted again with no issues.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] 900SS:
Dave,

Thank you for that information. I fiqured that had something to do with it crashing during the update.

I guess I will wait for a clean custom rom to flash.

On Kies its shows that I am on the latest firmware.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] pdaimatejam:
Release information:

Windows Phone 7.5

7.10.7740.16 (Mango)

ROM / Keyboard Languages​​:

All mango languages

information:

1. Language was added to 21

2. Omega camera features added

3. Advanced HTC camera settings

4. Camera settings Fix languages

5. The camera shutter button on a soft

6. was added to the internet sharing

7. The camera auto-focus

8. 3G transition

9. 11n WiFi

10. Unlocker is not necessary chevron

11. volume

12. Power Management

13. Media Share (Media Sharing)

14. Built-in Radio

15. Instant resume

16. HTC_VOIP

17. Glyph Cache

18. Color banding correction

19. Caller ID fix

20. Debugging in Visual Studio error correction

21. performance Management

Download:

http://www.multiupload.com/TOSH7DU1ZM
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Zubair Kirmani:
Trying Now, can you Upload some Screenshots.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] radhoy:
can you upload some pictures
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] 1milenia:
new rom

I'll try your rom

you definatly need pictures like the other chefs do
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] 1milenia:
Is this your first rom creation because it runs smooth
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] returned4good:
Pretty solid. Good job. All it lacks for me is the option for Google as the default search. Back into the registry I go.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] radhoy:
does panorama mode works in camera ???
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
What does the power and performance management so?

More info on that ? Also need screenshots.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] 1milenia:
i tried it at the gym with the wifi it locked on solid through my whole work out

the other roms i would end up loosing wifi

excellant job for your first sensational rom

do need screen shots
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
hows the battery life???
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] alanomakot:
Hi dude, i m deeply celebrating for your good job.Welldone that s it. Both we are in same fied and city i thing. waiting for your more effective applicaitons like other developers. If you focus for flash players, probably it will be bring great sound with your effords. hope i m expecting you got more funs. i belive that will be a good developer as weel as them. Good lucks. TUNA
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] 1milenia:
heres the verdict on battery life i m on 14 hours of use and only used 1\10th of the battery ,playing videos phone calls and browsing

you blow away the competition
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
that's amazing...
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
Can some one explain though how it saves battery life??
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] fulat:
flashing it now and will come back to u by end of the day on the battery life.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] alijs:
hii & thanks for sharing.

is Arabic included?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
any updates????
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] fulat:
can feel any different from other ROM. almost the same battery life
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
can someone post pic on how this rom looks like ?

---------- Post added at 02:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:39 PM ----------

if then why is this rom advertised with power management features ect?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] fulat:
i have no idea.
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
any updates??????????
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] Magpir:
any updates???
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] 1milenia:
Are you working on new updates for December
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] exiva:
What exactly needs updating?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] 1milenia:
customization
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] exiva:
Like what?
[HD7 Windows Phone 7 Development] ukicar:
This is a very good rom ... I used it for a long time ... 2-3 weeks :D .... but the competition has progressed ... this rom has little to modernize ... if he wants to stay in the race ...
[Motorola Atrix 2] Gadgetz:
Hey guys, I was watching this video on YouTube comparing the Atrix 2 and Droid RAZR and seen a pretty cool widget called "Favorites". I didn't remember seeing anything like that on mine so I checked and nope, don't have it. Do you guys have it? Anybody care to post the apk for it if so, and if not, can you point me in the right direction to get it?

Forward to 4:53 to see the "Favorites" widget on the Atrix 2

http://youtu.be/1DLW8B8LQgc
[Motorola Atrix 2] koriflame:
Yes I have it

It's called Quick Contacts... but I can only get it to work on the moto homescreen. D:
[Motorola Atrix 2] Gadgetz:
Mystery solved! Thanks man. I have it too but like you said, only works on stock launcher. It's alright though, the People widget is a decent alternative for those not on stock launcher and it's scrollable no matter what size you have the widget set to ;)
[HTC Incredible S] nicolajreck:
Which ROM can I make notifications bar transparent? Or, what ROM is in general easiest to customize?
[HTC Incredible S] ajeya:
Try nik's rom or rcmix 4.0
[HTC Incredible S] suchevent:
if you want customization, you can't beat miui. bar none, the most customizeable rom i've tried (i.e. very easy to create custom themes) but most roms are customizeable, to a point. are you looking for sense or aosp? you need to specify which and you also need to specify what type of customization you are looking to perform.

ps yes, you can make the statusbar transparent with miui. just flash extended settings.

edit: the new ics miui already has extended settings built in
[HTC Incredible S] nicolajreck:
I've just installed MIUI, and found the danish translation that i needed in .XML - But I can't seem to flash them.. And can't find any answer on google
[HTC Incredible S] greengiant:
afaik MIUI roms make the status bar transparent.

else ADW under Cyanogenmod can hide the status bar
[HTC Incredible S] mahmoud.mahdi:
RCmix3D is the best but i have a problem with the mobile network signal...I guess i need to flash a new radio....does anyone know what can i do?
[HTC Incredible S] ajeya:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1129014
[HTC Incredible S] mahmoud.mahdi:
same problem ajeya...i need help too.. in addition mobile gprs is not working now :S
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] innisdb:
It has a secondary mic so just wondering if thats only for recording video or if it is also used for noise cancellation
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] human_error:
It is used for noise cancellation as well, much like the secondary mic on the nexus one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
Is there a way to confirm this? The getting started guide doesn't say that it can be used for noise cancellation during calls. But it doesn't say it can't do this either.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Balthazar B:
Sure. Make a couple of test calls in a noisy environment, then stuff a wad of chewing gum into the secondary mike and make more test calls. Ask the person at the other end if they can hear a difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ericshmerick:
Most basic Android phones have this feature and I have no reason to think the GNEX wouldn't.

It never seems to do much good so its no big deal to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HooloovooUK:
Does it work when playing music? Like noise cancelling headphones?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Balthazar B:
Nope. Only with the mike.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HooloovooUK:
Hmm. Seems like they missed a trick there. Oh well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Balthazar B:
Think about it...so much noise will seep in between your ear and the phone that it wouldn't make any difference.

Just get a nice pair of IEMs or a noise cancelling headset like the Audio Technica ATH-ANC7b (or their less expensive ANC products).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HooloovooUK:
Lots of ANC headsets have the mic in an in-line power box on the cable. Bose come to mind for a start. So I don't see as it would be impossible to make the phone perform the ANC when using a standard headset.

I've got one, I just thought it would be cool if the phone did it.