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[Verizon Droid Charge] Bfitz26:
Sweet man thanks for the pointers we need some sort of sticky tutorial in theme section for noons will do some prework tomnarrow :-P
[Verizon Droid Charge] Bfitz26:
Would hit the thanks button but not on this app will hit it tommarrow
[Verizon Droid Charge] spc_hicks09:
Lol you're welcome and thank you!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kivamaki:
I'm looking to switch to virgin mobile tomorrow. So I want to upload a custom prl to use verizons network and just start torrenting like crazy to get booted without charges or a etf. Any idea how long it'd take to get booted?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
Most people are going to flame you for doing this as it eventually raises data costs and what not.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Several months.

With any luck by then Sprint will change the policies and charge you for every KB of abusage.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phatmanxxl:
Just lock your phone in roaming, give it about 90 days, please don't ruin unlimited data for the rest of us. Thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blestsol:
I was wondering the same. Thanks for creating the topic. Super Roam it is.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Wow people that do this are a holes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HondaCop:
I didn't know you had to be a saint in order to be a Sprint customer. Why are people getting wedgies in their panties just because some have found a way to get out of a contract without having to pay an outrageous ETF. If it causes Sprint such huge losses, they would have patched that loop hole a long time ago by simply making that customer pay for the overage.

All it takes is for Sprint to add a condition to the contract where it states that if you abuse roaming, then the ETF will apply AND overage charges as well. But as long as Sprint opts to just cut the contract with no ETF charges, so be it. So many moralists in a forum dedicated to HACKING the very phones these carriers provide. Talk about hypocrisy.

"LOL An update just to say there are no updates is like throwing away old used crack pipes full of residues in a crack house!" - HondaCop
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blestsol:
Yup.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hayabusa1300cc:
I bet they are the same guys that root and tether for free, talk about abusage =P

.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
Well I think as americans people are sadly trained to think like this. If there is a loop hope let's exploit it. I do think charging people for crazy roaming data would be a good thing. It does cost the company allot to pay for 15gb or what ever it is that people roam to get or of their contact. In the long run it will only hurt sprint customers. Could ruin unlimited data. But people are selfish and cheap and abuse things like this then complain that company's polices are tighter than a rebublicans a$$ hole. Great old americas screwing anything they can to get ahead.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HondaCop:
And sadly, they aren't trained much on proper grammar.

But back on topic; if it's such a big deal for Sprint, this would have been addressed a long time ago by putting it in writing. I still don't think it's a huge deal as many forum moralists here try to make it look like.

This site should be renamed xda-evangelists.com

"LOL An update just to say there are no updates is like throwing away old used crack pipes full of residues in a crack house!" - HondaCop
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chandlerw88:
I dont think its a big deal. These are billion dollar companies before they even charge late fees. I was watching that sassibob video yesterday and what she said made alot of sense. Were all getting raped. Might as well get yours while you can.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HondaCop:
Exactly.

"LOL An update just to say there are no updates is like throwing away old used crack pipes full of residues in a crack house!" - HondaCop
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jobryan26:
Post your cell# on here and I will be more than happy to call Verizon for you and link them to your post.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HondaCop:
Let's also get the numbers of all those who use the hotspot mod and tether for free so we can call Sprint on them, while you are at it. And we can also get Sprint to take a look at the thread showing how to force roam our phones to Verizon from this website. See where this is going? He who is free of sin, cast the first stone, but make sure your roof isn't made of glass first.

"LOL An update just to say there are no updates is like throwing away old used crack pipes full of residues in a crack house!" - HondaCop
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Gordon Ramsay:
You should probably do what your signature says ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jobryan26:
Take that **** attitude somewhere else... I'm not the one. If your dumb enough to post stupid **** like this on the internet and WANT to get bust.. you should be. Ask and ye shall receive.. ever heard of that one?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HondaCop:
You mad, bro? Let me show you this, you've probably seen it before:

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude.~Maya Angelou

Apply that to yourself before you pop an artery.

"LOL An update just to say there are no updates is like throwing away old used crack pipes full of residues in a crack house!" - HondaCop
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kivamaki:
I'm paying 85-90 dollars for 50 to 100 kbps of unlimited data. 50% of the time it goes to roaming. I have to pay an extra 10 dollars for a smartphone plan, plus the unlimited data? Along with the worst 4g roll out I have ever seen. Yeah, I'm getting ripped off. So I'm not paying an outrageous etf of $350 to do something better than to waste my money.

Plus you all realize that when the LTE network rolls out, its a 9/10 chance its not going to be unlimited anymore
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jobryan26:
Have you considered, if you get banned the odds are you are going to be hit with the eta charge anyway? I don't know this for sure.. but sounds like it's very possible. A contract is a contract till someone breaches it first which in this case would be you. Argue your case to get them to make it right via discounts and other options. Trying to hack your phone and drive up data costs is something that everyone ends up paying for. Do what's right.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
The sick part is, if the data speeds he claims he's getting are true, SPRINT IS ACTUALLY VIOLATING THEIR END OF THE CONTRACT AND THEREFORE MUST RELEASE HIM FROM THE CONTRACT ETF FREE.

But of course the first response is to act like a child instead of an adult.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
What about instances like mine where I roam most of the time at home? How can they tell the difference between me and the guy that forces roaming?

They can't.

Sprint will also happily let you out of your contract ETF free if they can't supply service to you where you live or move. How can they, beyond a shadow of a doubt, prove who hacked to roam and who is getting screwed the old fashioned way? They can't and until they can reliably do so no ETF for anybody in either circumstance.

Just because sprint is the nicest of the big evil corporations trying to screw you out of your money doesn't mean they want to be...

... And regarding unlimited going away? LTE or not it would be suicide for Sprint to abandon unlimited until they are #2 or #1. What else do they have? Sprint knows this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jobryan26:
I agree, I don't believe there is a minimum data speed considering all of the variables involved, but I have not looked deep enough into the contract to see. I believe they just advertise "speeds up to". I will contact my Sprint Major Account Rep and see if there is such a thing, but I doubt it. Sucks for the guy, I understand him being aggravated.. I would be too. I think there is just a better way of dealing with it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] smark72:
Why not just sell the phone on craigslist to pay for the ETF when you cancel your contract.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Duce HD2:
So this could actually work? Wait, all I have to do is set to roam and they'll cancel the contract for free?! I don't even get 4g where I live and pay the extra 10$ a month for "clear" service...though they tell you that's not what it's for..lol. How much data roaming do you have to use before they'll do the favor?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kivamaki:
There is not a better way.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Yes there is.

They are contractually obligated to provide a certain level of service, if they aren't providing it then they are in violation of that contract.

And don't even try to lie and say it won't work, my dad's line was canceled ETF free in February because the internet was useless and he required it for his job.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jobryan26:
Have you contacted Sprint to see if they can get you an Airave? In most instances they will either give you one at no charge & no monthly fee's or they will sell you one for $99 & no monthly fee's. I 100% agree with you, if Sprint is unable to service you then sure they should allow you to end the contract without penalty. There is usually a process of hoops you have to jump thru to get there like with any carrier. They keep a log of your conversation in your account so they can look back at every time you called and see that you have been having an ongoing problem which needs to be resolved. I am not sure how Sprint knows who has hacked their phones to make it roam, but I have seen a few posts where some have used the hacks to roam on Verizon and Sprint closed their account. Someone else might have more info on that than me.

---------- Post added at 01:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:24 PM ----------

This is very good advice. Many people do this when looking to upgrade on another carrier.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] magoo5289:
Yup, they sent me an AirRave for poor service in my building and I had it in two days. Works awesome. And really, if your service is that poor, you can complain to them, get moved to a supervisor level and they will offer to drop the contract with no ETF.

And for the comments about unlimited data going away, you are grandfathered into the contract so as long as you don't change your service plan, you get to keep the service.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I'm not too concerned. I love sprint CS. They leave me very satisfied every time. I don't really want to pay for a airrave... Eventually you have to... Besides, my home Internet is too flaky for me to want to put my voice service dependent on it. Fine for Data, but, I already have wifi. If they don't care about me roaming I don't either... I forced roaming for a couple weeks while towers were down after a few storms to get 3G instead of 1x... Called them about it and they said I wasn't roaming at all...?? Whatever... Lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] drksilenc:
sprint doesnt grandfather when you go to get a new phone or just reup you would be locked in
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Bigjim1488:
This sounds like sprint's loop hole for fckin me with below 100k 3G speeds!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] G1-evolve:
can I buy your phone? O_o
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cbpagent72:
.............
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
They can tell because sprints phones that arnt hacked wont let you roam 3g data. If you use lots data your phone is hacked if its roaming lots of data. Sprint wont Allow 3g roaming on the gs2's prl
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Not necessarily true. I don't think their system a) that detailed and b) reliable or they would use the information. Roaming agreements/indices/lists are very elaborate business. Tracking and monitoring apparently isn't as simple as it seems. I was on 00001.PRL for weeks (cuz when I was on 60681 I roamed anyway) and Sprint was unaware. Besides, Sprint corporate customers roam full 3G speed. Roaming agreements change constantly.

If Sprint could reliably track this they would, but, it seems like a logistical nightmare.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dalmus:
That's why its nice to be able to activate a phone contract-free.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
Its plain and simple, cut and dry. Our phones PRL will only allow 1x data roaming speeds unless you hack the PRL. A stock phone that is roaming will still show a 3g data icon even though your rocking 1x. 1x is so slow its not even worth browsing the web on or sending pics ect. There is ALMOST no way to get a few gb of usage roaming on 1x that sprint lets you roam on unless you were 24/7 tethering a torrent from your computer. So a 10yr could figure out that if you used several gb of data roaming when your suppose to be on 1x while roaming that you obviously hacked your phone/prl. It doesnt take some fancy tracking software implemented to see this. You use lots of roaming data and the computer automatically red flags you so i sprint employee can check it. Are you smarter than a 5th grader? Hahaha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I had roamed (naturally and artificially) a lot (almost 100% of the time) over 2 weeks due to almost all the Sprint towers being down. I called to ask why, they checked my account and said I have not been roaming at all.

That's why I said "reliably" up there... I would agree with you if I hadn't seen this situation my self.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HondaCop:
So on top of delivering 3G speeds of 100kbs or less, roaming is delivered slower than a 300 baud modem? I thought the $10 smartphone fee was for a multimedia-rich experience?

"LOL An update just to say there are no updates is like throwing away old used crack pipes full of residues in a crack house!" - HondaCop
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
That's actually not true. The current PRL still has some 3g roaming (in select areas) with Alltel, Cricket, Metro, and US Cellular. They got rid of a lot of 3g roaming though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
It seems to be less and less with each update. This isn't a problem that effects me right now but I know there isn't near the 3g roaming as there was say on 60676. Oh, and I actually pay for Hotspot. I have since launch day of the OG Epic. Hopefully that 4G gets added to the hack soon
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlimJ87D:
Hello everyone,

Times are tough. I need my phone for work but at the same time I also need some cash. Sadly I have to stick with my old Captivate. My plan was to sell my skyrocket, which I am already falling in love with.

I renewed my contract with ATT today at a ATT authorized small carrier dealer (Chinese shop). They ended up giving me the skyrocket for free. But the guy warned me that if I tried to sell the skyrocket then AT&T will terminate my contract. On my contract with this shop (AWG in San Gabrial Valley, CA), it says if my contract gets terminated in any kind of way within 180 days then I will owe AWG $300 for each PCS line. I have a family plan. He said if I wait 2 months then I can sell the phone, but not to sell it right away and that I need to use the phone during this 2 month period. He also said if I had an iPhone I would have to keep it for 6 months!

I don't know if this is true because I see people selling phones on craigslist left and right. Does anyone have any advice for me? Would AT&T really terminate my contract just because I choose to use my old phone?

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST! I hope you guys can help me here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Its not true u can sell it your stuck with the sim card and bill for 2 years but u can sell the device ive done it so have many many others. Thats the great thing about phones with sim cards u can sell or trade them at your discretion. I traded my sgs2 for the skyrocket.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bzmotoninja83:
You should be able to sell it. The phone its self is not bindingly tied to the sim card it has. People do it with iphones, and well, every phone out there. I don't think at&t would terminate you for selling a phone. Now, if you sold/lost your phone with the sim card still in it and someone were to rack up alot of charges, then yeah, you might be penalized. If you do intact get charged, att cancels your contract, your cat gets eaten by a dog that subsequently gets hit by a car that gets hit by a semi, don't blame me as, I just was browsing and chimed in
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlimJ87D:
Thanks guys. Yeah, I don't understand why ATT would terminate my contract out of the blue, specially for using my old phone. It just doesn't make sense or add up. I really wish I could have been apart of this great community. I hope ICS comes to you guys real soon.

Also, your sig on your internet speed and it being comcast = hilarious haha. For a second I thought it was your mobile phones speed!

Please, if anyone has a horror story of this actually going wrong. Chime in and let me hear. But if you guys have successfully sold your phones or traded them with no problems then let me know also.

Ahmen!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
this is my phone speed 35.21mbps download
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theli0ntamer:
You would only be penalized if the line in question is cancelled. I work for At&t in the city of long beach (company owned retail) and we get customers in our stores that do the same thing... if its not blackberries, its iPhones... but yeah. You could definately sell the phone, but u gotta keep the 2 year commitment.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] gr8hairy1:
Your contract and at least the $15 per month smart phone data plan as well, from how I understand.

Sent from my páhhōniē
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] whodat006:
Will a LTE sim work in a 3g phone? I know commingle from an infuse to a Skyrocket I had to get a new simcard. Not sure if that would affect your contract

SKYROCKET
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] imjester77:
Yes! I took the sim out of my phone LTE Skyrocket and put it in my old cappy to get my contacts on it..LONG STORY WHY I WENT THIS WAY...but none the less..I kept the SIM in the phone for 3 days with no issues. Works fine!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] whodat006:
Nice

SKYROCKET
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] SlimJ87D:
Thank you. I think you gave me more better reinforcement along with everyone else here. I'll be sure to hit the thanks meter on all you guys.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Simba501:
I can't believe someone would blantantly lie like that. That's absurd.

Sent from my Galaxy S2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Justinfedor:
You also have to remember it came out of a retailers mouth not a corporate agent. I will only deal with cor stores. The hell with retailers
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] newter55:
You Dont have to keep the data plan. Very common misconception.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theli0ntamer:
Newter55 is correct. Remove that data plan and save yourself $25 (or $15) a month. As long as the line in question is active, you will be fine. I know going into corporate retail can be a major drag, but it beats dealing with authorized retailers... it seems like lately 95% of fraud gets tracked back to dealers... everytime I get manager escalation regarding fraud, its the first question I ask my customers.. and 9 times out of 10, it all goes back to them. The funny part is when u try to contact the dealer and they act like you are speaking Swahili lol...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shimmyx20:
Read your contract very carefully. If it's something like the contract that I signed with Amazon, if I remove my phone/data package within the first 6 months, I will get charged $250 (from Amazon, not from AT&T). This is partly because I got the phone for $.01, instead of $249 like I would have paid directly through AT&T.

This is usually only the case with e-tailers. I have not yet seen this type of thing from authorized retailer stores, but there's a first time for everything.

I work in customer care at ATT
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Lol naa. You can sell it but u have to pay for you plan for the 2 years. People do it all the time aell/trade phones. If you pay your bill for the length u signed for u can sell it now
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ajamils:
That's exactly my concern is too. I got the phone from Amazon for $0.1 and I am thinking about selling it and getting either the LG Nitro or Samsung Note but I'm worried about Amazon charging me $250.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Nakel:
It all depends where you bought it; read your contract. Do you have a contract with just AT&T, or do you have one with your retailer as well? If you have a contract with your retailer, for instance Amazon has contracts, you will pay a penalty if you change anything or take the phone off the line, even if you change the number. If you don't have a contract with your retailer, then you just have to deal with AT&T--for instance you bought the phone at Best Buy or a Corporate store. They don't seem to care what you do, as long as you pay your bill. Be careful, many AT&T stores look corporate, but are actually third party retailers.

Again, read your contract/contracts. Don't trust the advice of people who haven't read YOUR contract.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
I disagree completly i bought a tmobile phone from amazon and sold it no penality same with att. They dont even know you sold it amazon cant monitor you att acount too see if you changed devices on your account. You sir are wrong. That would mean if you had an old phone and wanted to pop your sim out of your new one and use the old one amazon would charge you 250 because ur not using that phonE. Amazon does not know they get money from ATT for selling you the 2 year contract.... if you terminate you contract before the 2 years then yes they can charge you for it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] F2a:
No, you definitely have to keep the data plan on for the two years. It doesn't matter what you do with the phone, but if you remove the data plan you void the contract and get charged for the full price of the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Yes correct. But u can sell the phone ..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Nakel:
Yep, I'm absolutely wrong. I can't believe I gave such stupid advice. I mean, Really? Who would be stupid enough to read their own contract? I retract that close minded drivel. Do not read your contract. Much better to get advice from people who haven't read your contract. Seriously, contracts never change with time, if someone has done it before, you go right ahead. Amazon would never, ever change their contract from what they had before. Much better not to look. Every experience is the same, everywhere.

BTW, can you believe the fools who spend money and go see doctors and lawyers? Morons. Why spend the money when you can get all the answers on the internet?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Lol. The contract says that but thats for if u sell the phone then try to terminate your contract ....as i previously said ........they have no way of monitoring your account.. wow you know what not worth argueing over..... op do what ud like just look around in other forums on here not just skyrocket. But dont let people who seem like they are trolling scare you...good luck
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theli0ntamer:
Silver is right... we dont have a way to monitor accounts like that lol. I work for at&t (corporate retail/ long beach) and yes, you can sell the phone and remove data without any penalties. However you still need to pay for the voice service (9.99 per month). Just thought I would clear things up a bit from everybody. ;-)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] F_L_Abs:
If you bought it from an Authorized Retailer, they usually have a separate contract to sign aside from the At&t customer service summary...

Make sure to read that contract carefully!
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] goodintentions:
The license for it is only 99 cents. But wow, it's as close to microsoft office as I've seen in android. I've been using it. I just can't believe the number of options it's got.

I don't understand why it's not more well known.