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[General Topics] Babydollll:
My Dad has the Rezound on Verizon and I checked it front to back....NO CIQ installed (He's stock)

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[General Topics] Clovett:
Privacy and security issues aside, who told the carriers they could use the airtime we purchased for their utilities?

I'm new to this and I bought the 200mb plan. I've got a data monitor and don't need more than 200mb by using wifi. However for every 15mb or so I used I'd be about 4mb off what the AT&T website posted.

Could this application be using that much of MY paid bandwidth without my permission?
[General Topics] kennethpenn:
Just an FYI... Carrier IQ just published a new press release.
[General Topics] dirtsky:
At the time I checked I was trying out Ice Cream Sense 1.2 for Droid Incredible. I asked the Rom developer about the CIQ apps but he said it shouldn't.

Sent from my Incredibly awesome Droid Incredible.
[General Topics] OmegaRED^:
And how do they sort between your data and private data? lies... my usage phone stats alone is a attack of privacy.

Still busted.. and it still does it anonymously without your consent.

Carrier IQ = Busted

AT&T = Deep ****e

Sprint = now be Crawl

Seriously.. 14 DEC is Drop the Carrier IQ day.
[General Topics] aloy99:
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ge=1&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

Sent from my x10 mini running the latest version of minicm 7. :D
[General Topics] retn0:
Mission imposible

Sent from my GT-S5570
[General Topics] kwkbnk:
I don't care if this program was only looking at device data, the fact that it's running on our devices pulling any kind of data without our consent or knowledge is a violation of privacy. If it's not pulling any kind of personal data why do keystrokes, text messages and web searches show up in it's log? If they are not pulling personal data then the program should not be setup to look at personal data! Just another case of the carriers trying to make a few bucks off of it's customers. First they accept money to put crapware on our devices that we never use and just takes up memory and slows thing down, Now I think this is a case of collecting our data so they can sell it to 3rd party companies that will try to sell us junk based on where we are, what we are talking about, what we look at online and what types of apps we run. So glad we are able to root our devices and load custom rom's to rid us of all this spyware and crapware.
[General Topics] iceman4357:
I spoke to the lawyer here in St. Louis that is going after HTC, samsung, Carrier IQ and I wanted to try and help the battle. He said that he is creating a website now that would allow group participation in the suit. This is where the XDA community comes in! He said the more people that jump on board the stronger it will look for a judge. When the website is created, I will post a link where everyone can sign up to go against any company who uses Carrier IQ, and request that they stop.

"Thank you for asking our firm to represent you in connection with this matter. In order for others who have inquired of you and are interested in pursuing this matter, they can follow the link below to a generic consumer fraud report form on our website. We are adding CIQ/Cell Phone specific forms and content as we speak but that probably won’t be available this weekend. In the meantime, anyone can use the form below to contact us about possible representation. They should be sure to include information about the exact make and model of their cell phone, the operating system it is running (Android, iOS, etc.) and their wireless carrier.

http://www.hgsslaw.com/PracticeAreas/ClassActions/ConsumerFraudReportRequest.aspx "

Under "report fraud/claim" put "Carrier IQ, wire tap, device brand name, OS, ect.

Sign the grouble:

http://www.groubal.com/remove-carrier-iq/

Thanks!

-Eric
[General Topics] groves226:
join the class action. In the end we probably won't get anything out of it, but it could (along with SEN Franken's inquiry) get things changed.
[General Topics] iceman4357:
Exactly, I could care less about any money. All I want is for them to remove carrier iq or at least have a damn opt out instead of doing it behind our back.
[General Topics] N8ter:
I think people are sensationalizing this quite a bit.

Lol @ your phone usage data is an attack on your privacy.

THe only opt-out a carrier gives you to avoid having your calls and SMS logged (not necessarily the text and voice data) is to not use their network. There is probably more tracking going on on the typical PC than Carrier IQ is doing on smartphones.
[General Topics] groves226:
um you are not picking up what we are putting down.

the tracking/logging is done by a 4th party. Not the carrier or the device manufacturer but a for profit software company.

The sms logging and phone call records and data usage is kept for a period of time already at the carrier, by the carrier.

this is not the carrier but again a 4th party that has control of a root kit on your and a few hundred millon other devices.

handheld google device
[General Topics] N8ter:
Doesn't matter. Tracking is tracking no matter whose doing it. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

And its the carriers who commission the software from Carrier IQ. They should have engineers looking at the software they bake into their phones before approving it, right?

Its the carriers who should be getting sued.

thIs is like suing the gun manufacturer because a gang banger shot your wife.

Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
[General Topics] iceman4357:
I intend on going after at&t with this as well. I feel that the carriers are to blame more than anyone. all that I am looking for is to have people sign up and state how they feel it harms them. the more people we can get the more that something will be done about it.
[General Topics] Rosk1:
im clean (:

anyway, my calls isnt really important so if i wasnt clean, i dont care anyway. (:
[General Topics] j0nson:
does anyone know why carrier iq would be installed in the first place? the wireless ISPs already have our internet traffic data...why would they need a keylogger?
[General Topics] antiquezip:
CarrierIQ Patent Outlines Keylogging

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...nd-ability-to-target-individual-devices/16869

And Tmobile List Of Currently Sold Handset With CarrierIQ Pre-Installed

HTC Amaze 4G

Samsung Galaxy S II

Samsung Exhibit II 4G

T-Mobile myTouch by LG

T-Mobile myTouch Q by LG

LG DoublePlay

Blackberry 9900

Blackberry 9360

Blackberry 9810

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/list...evices-with-carrier-iq-software-preinstalled/
[General Topics] Dice719:
Carrier IQ = Big brother
[General Topics] R32_Rocky:
As a computer tech, I can understand the need for accurate information to do proper troubleshooting, and to eventually resolve the issue. All too often, I had users that would typically shrug their shoulders and say "I don't know what happened. I just pressed this key, and ......". So imagine all the calls about dropped calls, lost connections, (Sprint's infamous) poor signal strength, and bad battery drain (about the #1 complaint on every custom ROM or kernel made here). Without proper information, it would be a real mess to resolve the issues.

BUT!!!!!!!!! A number of points to consider:

1) all users should have had the right to opt out as they so choose!

2) reading the 2nd link in the first op, Trevor's web link, the STOCK (unmodified) CIQ which is right out in the open, with surveys to take when a problem occured, and the user was ALLOWED to manually use, then send ONLY that data, is actually a good idea to assist in troubleshooting. And it appears this was their original intent, which I don't see as too harmful. The USER had control over how, or when, CIQ would be active. It is Sprint, that took it, and HID IT, deep into the system, with no opt-anything!

3) BUT AGAIN!!!!! Anything like this, sitting on any device, is an exploit just waiting to happen by any nefarious hacker!!!!! And a good hacker, can and WILL, get into it. And if they did not know of it before, with all this publicity, they sure do now. So even if CIQ may have had good intentions at first, they have inadvertently placed a ticking time bomb on all our phones, there for any hacker to take advantage of. Just think, how many banks have created online Android apps already, to access all your accounts via your phone? Soon, a hacker may get that info now too.
[General Topics] oka1:
AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF CARRIER- THE FINDINGSIQ

Here is a link showing what the Carrier IQ does, records and its impact....

This you should READ !

http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2011/12/05/carrieriq-the-real-story/
[General Topics] wirelesshead65:
All I know is; upon first learning of the CarrierIQ app I decided to look into it on my phone. Found it, saw that it wasn't showing as a running app so then I decided to go to Manage Applications and install it just to see what would happen. Now my phone is "bricked". Amazing, when i first decided to root my phone I was so scared of bricking and I didn't. Don't know exactly what CIQ is but I do know that it must be some serious s#*t to be functioning while appearing as a non-running linux process.

Trevor(in the video) was demonstrating in Airplane Mode which leads me to believe that CIQ is somewhat connected to entire air interface a device.

What do you all think?
[General Topics] KCRic:
Figured I would post this here too. Damage control at it's best - it's hilarious!

http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/02/technology/carrier_iq/index.htm

Because every programmer writes code and has no clue what it's doing, right? :rolleyes:
[General Topics] Backthen:
Immediately flashed Cyanogen once I heard about this. Sucks for me though because the build isn't that stable yet and every other sensation build has it.
[General Topics] Rastislav.Maskal:
I'm lucky i have Wp7 device without Carrier IQ ...i hope..
[General Topics] glennk:
As I understand it the Carrier IQ stuff is just an american issue. Is that correct?
[General Topics] gabbar21:
Terminate contract?

Can I terminate my contract with Sprint without having to pay the early termination fee because of this?
[General Topics] KayxGee1:
I'm with AT&T. I would like to know this as well.
[General Topics] JM_I:
"First they came for the communists,

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me

and there was no one left to speak out for me."

As is often the case, principal should override ambivalence.

I'm just sayin.
[General Topics] osirus1977:
download lookout mobile security Carrier IQ Detector from the market for your android phone. Luckily my rooted Samsung Galaxy S 4g with Raver3x's octane rom doesnt have Carrier IQ
[General Topics] jemdude77:
Ban Carrier IQ

@carrierIQ on twitter

I am forming an alliance to ban carrier IQ.

I have written 49 letters to senators and congressmen.

I have contacted sprint, samsung and carrier IQ.

Follow me the more followers I get on twitter the better.

I will have a website up soon and have a facebook page.

I have recorded sprint phone calls and will post a video on youtube soon.

also all my emails back and forth from sprint and samsung. Samsung blames sprint,

sprint blames samsung and both claim to have no "knowledge"

I have contacted an attorney and am working on this big time.

spread the word to everyone!
[General Topics] :
International issue hate to say and no you can't break contract cuz of it
[General Topics] whiteboy806:
Found CIQ in my new Galaxy sII skyrocket ATT. Shows up in the running applications as Android System when u click on it is say IQ Agent Service. Kill it and it comes right back on. Just going to root and remove.
[General Topics] OFWGKTADGAF:
how long has this been around?
[General Topics] Bear gri11z:
5+ years....

Maybe not carrier IQ specifically but data loggers on phones anyways
[General Topics] bsaucier0810:
Carrier IQ: You should know what your phone knows about you

Hello all. I'm new to the forum and Atrix 2. I was surffing earlier and came across this artical about Carrier IQ and wanted to share.

Carrier IQ: You should know what your phone knows about you

By David Goldman @CNNMoneyTech February 28, 2012: 10:36 AM ET

BARCELONA, Spain (CNNMoney) -- The company behind the secret cell phone software that caused a massive privacy stir late last year doesn't want the data it lets carriers collect from you to be a secret anymore.

Carrier IQ unveiled a new software code Tuesday at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona that allows consumers to dive deep into their devices and see what's ailing their phones. Previously, carriers were the only ones with access to the information that the Carrier IQ software was collecting, and the data was never so specific.

Among the issues the software is able to detect include what tasks are draining your battery, where your calls tend to drop, and which apps are hurting your phone's performance.

Carrier IQ believes giving consumers more control of their devices will be an attractive new option for carriers. The company said 40% of customers that request technical support for their devices don't need it, wasting hundreds of millions of dollars for wireless companies.

Some carriers have tried to offload tech support calls to their websites, but those services have proven to be highly inefficient. Many failed attempts to troubleshoot problems online result in customers headed right back to the phone lines. Informing customers of what exactly is going on inside their phone could eliminate a lot of unnecessary tech support calls.

"Operators really don't want customers calling in, and customers hate calling carriers anyway," said Andrew Coward, head of marketing for Carrier IQ.

The software company said that after the damaging privacy fiasco erupted, it thought long and hard about becoming a direct-to-consumer service provider to add a layer of clarity about what it does. But Carrier IQ decided against that, because so much of the critical information about a phone's performance pertains to the network.

Your cell phone is out of your control

Carrier IQ's software can allow cell phone companies to provide customers with maps of dropped calls on their website or give customers a sense of how fast their phone performs compared to other customers with the same device.

Some Carrier IQ test partners are already taking advantage of this newfound ability to identify specific problems with a user's device. One network that tested Carrier IQ's new software proactively identified the top 100 worst performing devices on their network and called each customer to troubleshoot what was going wrong.

"We want to ensure that consumers understand what information is being collected about them," said Coward. "But at the end of the day, we don't work with consumers. It's up to the networks to disclose that information."

Sent from my ATRIX 2 running SCRv5 via da TapaTalk!¡!
[General Topics] Dajinn:
lool, wow. i can't believe he had the audacity to just toss out the biggest blanket statement ever. operators don't want customers calling in? then how the hell do they expect to stick around? unrealistic expectations -_-.
[General Topics] bsaucier0810:
They must enjoy digging holes is all I can figure...I can't imagine that anything they have to say to the "customers calling in" will help them out of this mess. I still don't understand how service providers think they have any right to dive into any information on my device..not that they can i removed Carrier IQ but still... I pay you and you provide service..that's where our paths end.

Sent from my ATRIX 2 running SCRv5 via da TapaTalk!¡!
[General Topics] mistermentality:
Yes. Its been confirmed that UK and, I think, the rest of Europe don't use it.

Dave
[General Topics] R32_Rocky:
Though not CIQ exactly, this is in the same vein of spying. I got this from an IDG Connect newsletter I am subscribed to for IT related topics. This is software for an employer to watch over their employees. I would imagine that our ISP and phone providers (Verizon, AT&T, T-MOBILE, Sprint, Time Warner, etc) no doubt have it, or something similar as well?
[General Topics] F2504x4:
this place ?

http://www.spector360.com/
[General Topics] R32_Rocky:
Yep, that is it.

I can understand the need for it in certain situations. But some can go too far overboard with it. Especially in these tough unemployment days, and where age discrimination is running rampant! Just dot one "i" wrong, and gone. And they have all this data saved on you, but you have no such program to have proof on your side - especially the part about the ability to see documents printed, or items saved to removable devices (flash drives). If you were an employee being harassed, or discriminated against, and trying to protect yourself, they will always be one step ahead of you.

But yes, there is the other side of the coin as well. Espionage, stealing, being the one who IS the harassing antagonist; this can be of a huge help.

But if people feel violated when law enforcement performs wire taps (and that is to protect our country), how then can this be allowed, and not be some privacy violation?
[General Topics] acetkbez:
I'm glad I use Verizon, Carrier IQ isn't on an of their phones :)
[General Topics] GalaxyMaster:
sorry to revive this thread from its grave but.... dude is going up against AT&T about carrier iq alone. lets support his efforts.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2509571
[Droid Eris Android Development] mjgdroid:
I have the new 2.6.35 kernel that gnarlyc was working on working on my eris, I am going to post the link to download after I test it on a few of the other roms. I will release the new kernel in a couple days just wanted to let you all know

Thanks gnarlyc http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=992323

for starting this greate WORK!
[Droid Eris Android Development] gnarlyc:
Well, no real need to thank me. I just start projects and hopefully someone else comes along and finishes them! Great job. Thank you. I look forward to flashing this on my kid's Eris. :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] sracer9:
Oh sure, now you tell me :)
[Droid Eris Android Development] It IS Lupus:
What are the differences between the old kernel and this one. Also will this be okay to flash on GSB?
[Droid Eris Android Development] jaybob413:
Congrats!

Is this based on the recent HeroC/DesireC sources, or the older s0be based sources?

Are the updates on github or some other repository site?
[Droid Eris Android Development] sracer9:
Yeah, me too :) I had been working on the breber github source and finally got a bootable ERIS that I could adb into and captured a dmesg as well. Only thing lacking (small issue), is that none of the buttons worked :) I had an idea on a fix but lost my dev box and am waiting on a replacement MB to continue.

Question is, how different is the source tree for this kernel from the breber github source? When I used the breber source, I did change many kernel options to build many items as modules (ipv6 etc...) I've used the stock CM7 as the base w/ many mods for our older phones, and was able to reduce the size of the kernel image fairly significantly. Bootup was a bit quicker, but main idea was to remove some options that are rarely used, but still make them available as modules.

I've not tested this kernel yet, but I had to make a lot of mods to the defconfig etc... to get breber to work. 2.6.35 gives us some nice features, such as auto memory compaction / defragmentation etc... In the short time I was able to use it, it appeared to run better than the .29 we've all been using.
[Droid Eris Android Development] theboo7:
has it been a few days yet?:p
[Droid Eris Android Development] sracer9:
Yes, finally :) I just got it up and running end of last week and have been playing catch-up. I use this box as a mailserver for my domain, so it spent the first 10 hours processing over 49000 messages.

Funny timing though, just compiled .35 and was getting ready to flash it. At this point, I have no idea where I left off :) Maybe I'll smoke the Eris next....
[Droid Eris Android Development] theboo7:
as long as we get a download link soon:)
[Droid Eris Android Development] MongooseHelix:
I was hoping we might hear some updates for the people working on this...

It would be a big help if those who have gotten it to boot would post their source so others can help get this to a stable point without having to repeat work. I'd like to see Eris development stay alive even as many, including myself, have moved on to more powerful phones.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sracer9:
sounds good to me. I do have my box up and running, just haven't had much time to mess with it. somewhere along the the line, I screwed up my Conf, but I'll get it. It boots, but I've messed up the mtd enumeration, so no init gets started.

Just as an fyi, I'm using breber's github source with the arm 4.4.3 eabi.
[Droid Eris Android Development] sracer9:
Well, the good news is, I'm running 2.6.35 now. But.... the bad news is that it's on a new Moto Razr. :) However, I'll still be tinkering with the Eris in my spare time.

I've rooted the Razr, but I'll tell you. Getting recovery on it's a booger. Also, the battery is sealed in (I'm sure the 2 small screws at the top allow a lift out and disconnect). But, kinda got nervous for a sec when I tried to boot into recovery and got nowhere with no easy way to pull the batt. Overall, liking the phone a lot.

Now.... If only I can dig up my working config. I have a cloud based backup system that versions stuff. Need to go through and see if I've got something there.
[Droid Eris Android Development] MongooseHelix:
Having a current generation phone is quite a change. I am enjoying my gnex a lot and since it doesn't need much modification, I still get to spend a good bit of my dev time with the eris :).

Maybe we can talk workshed into messing with this .35 kernel again when you find that config...or he might be burnt out for awhile on the frustrations that are the kernel porting and the tbolt as a whole.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] pairustwo:
I'm holding off on messing with CM7 thinking that our phone is sort of on the cutting edge of Android devices and will surely have a version of CM9 becoming available in the not to distant future.

I guess the same could be said of CM7 but that didn't come true did it.

Am I kidding myself about CM9? Who does cyanogenmod develop for typically?

thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] quest4fire:
CM 7 is awesome. Flash away now
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] malaeus:
there is no use waiting on CM9 it wont be ready any time that soon. CM7 is great flash it! remember that the various dev teams are not getting paid beyond some random donations for this. and this is all done on their free time.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jessejames111981:
maybe the free time is the problem. Cm is so mainstream now I think everyone who uses it should pay $20 or so for every version (cm6, cm7, cm9) If they were able to make money off what is really a worthy product they can be able to invest more time and manpower in their projects. Its a shame the more phones they support the harder it is
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] }{Alienz}{:
I agree. I also feel CM should move into creating a company with a large dedicated team of coders that actually work full time on CM projects.

As for money, $10 access to nightlies per device or something similar would make it viable. The project as it stands right now has over a million users I believe. $10 million per version of Android and access to nightlies should be more than enough incentive to do it. And a full time CM team would churn them out like clockwork.