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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ianwood:
How many times does this horse have to be beaten? Just because the ITU f***ed up the definition of 4G doesn't mean we can all run around pretending that everything is 4G. HSPA+ is about as 4G as my dog. I don't care what T-Mobile's marketing department tells you. T-Mobile is dead. If you think it's just about theoretical download speeds, good luck to you. There's a reason you don't get theoretical download speeds. Try getting HSPA+ theoretical download speeds in the middle of NYC at lunchtime. Then try LTE. Guess which is faster. Guess which will ALWAYS be faster. There's the real 4G and then there's what the marketing muppets called 4G. Deal with it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] edgeicator:
I think you misunderstood my post. I'm saying there is no 4G and there won't be any 4G for several years to come. HSPA+ and LTE are both 3.5G. Also, LTE is faster mainly due to low network saturation, not because it's inherently faster than HSPA. The only true 4G is LTE-Advanced.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zedmec:
only the sith deal in absolutes

calm down y'all.

2/3/4/8 g, it doesn't matter what you call it.

only the speed matters, all the networks have their individual issues
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ianwood:
I understood your post. You're basically saying LTE and HSPA are the same generation of technology which is misleading at best. HSPA is an evolution from UMTS. LTE is entirely new. It is not faster just because of lower saturation. It is faster because it is an order of magnitude more efficient than HSPA. It is the next generation of technology which is why (despite the literal definition from the ITU) LTE is 4G be it release 8, 9 or 10. It's not about theoretical speed. It's about capacity.

It may sound pedantic to harp on about what may appear to be a subtle distinction between two technologies that right now don't look that different, but rest assured the differences in the technology are not subtle. In 3 to 4 years, HSPA will seem like EDGE does today and everyone will be using LTE.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tk123456789:
Seems like edgeicator and ianwood have a lot of knowledge in this field so can either one of you answer my last post please? Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ianwood:
I assume you mean this one:

You should always have the latest SIM which is the LTE SIM regardless of plan or device. If you are on an LTE plan and using the LTE APN, you should be able to get HSPA+ speeds on your GN. And you also benefit from routing through the LTE EPC core which is more efficient and less saturated with users.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tk123456789:
Thanks ianwood!! I appreciate your knowledge! You get a thanks thumbs up from me! How do I know if I am using the LTE APN?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
i dont care what the ITU or anybody calls LTE as 4G or not, or what the speeds are. in my opinion, putting up all new cell hardware for LTE

is

4G. it is a brand new network of new hardware, the 4th generation specifically, so to me LTE is "4G". even if it can only pull down 1 Mbps, it is still the FOURTH generation of cellular hardware being implemented. hence, it is 4G.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rjstang:
I am provisioned for the lte data and I am using the pta apn. I have been seeing 4-5mb. But it all depends on where you are located really. I am in NYC so you know there is network saturation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stnc:
So I went ahead and updated my APN settings taken from the Atrix, and I just wanted to confirm that the AT&T MMS APN doesn't have the option to select it, correct? Also, if I don't have tethering, there's no need for me to add the tethering APN, correct?

I've attached a screenshot of my APN page for added explanation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AnalogXDA:
Yes, it's normal for the MMS APN not to have a radio button to allow you to select it. The phone knows when to use it. And no, you probably don't need the tethering APN if you never tether.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
Have you confirmed working MMS? I am aware the APNs you are using are posted throughout web but would you please post your settings...specifically the value used in the APN Type field. Thank you in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NPuter:
I am using those APNs and MMS works perfectly for me...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stnc:
I have in fact confirmed MMS, after switching APN's, MMS messages send within 3 minutes, rather than all day or never when I was just using the Cingular 410 APN. I am also receiving MMS messages in a much more timely fashion as well.

For the APN Type field, the value is: mms

Name: AT&T US MMS

APN: wap.cingular

Proxy: wireless.cingular.com

Port: 80

Username: Not set

Password: Not set

Server: Not set

MMSC: mmsc.cingular.com

MMS proxy: wireless.cingular.com

MMS port: 80

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

Authentication type: Not set

APN type: MMS

APN protocol: IPv4

APN enable/disable: APN enabled

Bearer: Unspecified

This includes the http: / / at the front, but because I have not posted eight times yet, I am unable to post the full link.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Has anyone with unlimited data for non-smartphones been able to keep that plan? There are conflicting reports, but they are all of the friend-of-a-friend variety.

I've been out of contract for close to 4 years now, so if they try to take it away I'll either quit and go to T-Mobile, or at least threaten to. At this point, I consider it the "discount" I get for not having purchased subsidized phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
Thanks. I am interested in the APN Type for the data/phone APN too. I believe you said you were using phone and not pta. I have no luck with MMS as you listed whether with phone or pta.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stnc:
Sure!

This is the other APN I use.

Name: AT&T US MMS

APN: phone

Proxy: Not set

Port: Not set

Username: Not set

Password: Not set

Server: Not set

MMSC: Not set

MMS proxy: Not set

MMS port: Not set

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

Authentication type: Not set

APN type: default,supl,agps,fota,dun

APN protocol: IPv4

APN enable/disable: APN enabled

Bearer: Unspecified

The old APN I was using, the only one that came with the SIM card from the Focus Flash was:

Name: Cingular 410

APN: wap.cingular

Proxy: Not set

Port: Not set

Username: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

Password: ********* - No clue.

Server: cingulargprs.com

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com/

MMS proxy: wireless.cingular.com

MMS port: Not set

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

Authentication type: Not set

APN type: default,supl,mms

APN protocol: IPv4

APN enable/disable: APN enabled

Bearer: Unspecified
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
fyi...the wap password is CINGULAR1 (yes...case sensitive)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BananaPhone69:
Sorry guys, kinda confused. I entered the 4 apn's, but my phone still has the "Cingular 410" selected. Do I need to select the others, or will the phone auto choose the best one?

If I do need to select the others, which one should I be choosing?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kirdroid:
You have to select based on your plan. I have an iphone 4s plan so selected the phone apn.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NextNexus:
I use the 'phone' apn and never entered any mms apn but mms works perfectly on my unlocked Galaxy nexus with AT&T.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Unless I'm mistaken, according to AT&T's own website the username and password are no longer required.

I'd link to the article, but I'm a lurker so don't have enough posts.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lpasq:
confirm that the phone apn with all "apn type" as posted has working mms for me too
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cundiffr:
Mine does the exact same on T-Mobile USA
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] VegUnited:
I'm on AT&T and I can't surf while talking anymore with the Galaxy Nexus. Im using the "phone apn" and able to receive and send MMS with it. I haven't tried since I bought it opening week but was annoyed now that I can't. Anyone else having this problem, if not what APN are you using?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stnc:
I've had hit or miss with this issue, though lately I've had no problems doing both.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] VegUnited:
Which APN are you using, do you know?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stnc:
I'm now using the Inspire HSPDA APN. But I haven't tested it out since changing over.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] VegUnited:
I just switched back to the 410 APN and can now surf while talking, couldn't with the HSPDA "phone apn"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ranova:
im on the typical wap.cingular apn, no hacks, no weird LTE APNs, regular sim card:

Connection Type: Hspa

Server: Boston, MA

Download: 925.2 kB/s

Upload: 137.8 kB/s

Ping: 175 ms
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I'm continuing to use the Cingular 410 apn on my phone, using the unlimited data for non-smartphones plan. Even though I'm maxing out at 7mbps on HSPA, that's more than enough for browsing the web and downloading apps. I'd prefer to keep my cheaper data plan. I haven't been flagged yet.

If for whatever reason they catch and flag me, then I'll either ask for 4G provisioning to access the HSPA+ speeds, or cancel my account and switch to T-Mobile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] milan03:
You have no idea what you're talking about. LTE is a completely new technology, isn't about the theoretical speeds, it's about the efficiency, capacity, and LTE's mandatory benefits like MIMO and beam forming.

If it was about the speeds, then AT&T's 16QAM, 14.4mbps HSPA+ certainly doesn't qualify to be called "4G", but that certainly doesn't stop AT&T...

On a side note, current Release 8 Cat 3 LTE UE are all capable of 100mbps down and 50mbps up when used in a 20Mhz channel, so even that theory falls apart...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] edgeicator:
What I'm saying is that no carrier has true 4G. LTE is not true 4G, but it's more "true" 4G than AT&Ts 4G. True 4G would net you 1gbps peak when stationary or moving around. AT&T would be akin to say 3.4G and LTE would be 3.7G.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brosenz:
Today I checked my Galaxy Nexus with the 2GB AT&T Smartphone data plan, here are the results of the SpeedTest application:

- Download = 4,291KB/Sec

- Upload = 1,610 KB/Sec

- APN = Cingular 410
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brosenz:
Contacted AT&T today and they said because the phone (Galaxy Nexus) is not an official AT&T phone (I purchased mine with Expansys-US) the default is "Smartphone" plan, that means 3G speed, so they have created a case with high level tech support to solve it and link the phone with a 4G plan.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
None of this matters, and you all are arguing semantics.

Regardless of whatever ITU says, the following facts are true:

AT&T brands their HSPA service as 3G.

AT&T brands their HSPA+ service as 4G.

AT&T brands their LTE service as 4G.

Whether or not AT&T is correct to label those technologies in this manner doesn't matter, because that's what is currently available to consumers, and "true 4G" as the ITU defines it doesn't exist.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ben74:
just got my GN on at&t in san francisco. i put in my sim card that i had been using with my captivate. it auto populated the cingular 410 apn, and i get speeds <3mbps, just like my captivate.

when i try the "phone" apn, i can't get a data connection. does this mean i need to switch to a 4G data plan? do i need a new sim card?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brosenz:
I just installed my iPad Micro-SIM with an adapter into the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and I am getting alternate connections to HSDPA 9 and HSPA 11, I think when data transmission happens it will switch to HSPA 11, speed is a little bit faster than with the standard AT&T chip for the "Smartphone plan".

iPad SIM: 2,700kbps to 3,700kbps download speed

AT&T SIM: 2,000kbps to 2400kbps download speed

Not a huge difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] milan03:
I've been doing the same thing for a while with APN "broadband", and while the speeds are comparable to "phone" SIM/APN, the latency is dramatically improved. It really matches what I used to see on Skyrocket using "pta" APN which is as low as 30ms, averaging in the 50's here in NYC.

AT&T is most definitely routing or shaping the broadband/pta users to separate servers, or just giving priority QoS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cheeze[iT]:
You need to call customer service and have them activate "4g" then it will turn on. I had the same issue coming from my iPhone trying to use "phone" apn. You might get someone that isn't intelligent and tell you your crazy just call back ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brosenz:
Went to AT&T today and they entered a 4G IMEI number into my account and added the DataPro 2GB for Smartphone 4G LTE plan, the APN was still Cingular 410 (APN = wap.cingular) so I asked Tech Support and they said to use APN = PTA with all the other values default or blank, but MMS is not working, what I should do ?, copy the MMS values from Cingular 410 to the newly created PTA APN profile ?, or the other option could be to change the APN in Cingular 410 to PTA ?, thanks

NOTE: I am confused regarding the number of APN I can have configured in the phone, I can have many of them but only one of them has the GREEN light ON, meaning that's the only one who is active ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cheeze[iT]:
Use the default APN thats created, go down and delete "default,supl" leaving only MMS

Make a new APN, call it whatever you want, for the APN put Phone/PTA if PTA works, and go down to the same line as default,supl from the other settings and put default,supl there. That will give you the faster apn for data, and working MMS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brosenz:
Thank you, which one should be selected with the GREEN led ?, what's the meaning of the GREEN led ?, I thought it meant the "Active" APN
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cheeze[iT]:
Yes, only the first one should be selected, (capable of being selected) it will know to use the other one for MMS but use the first one for DATA.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brosenz:
Do you think I should use Phone instead of PTA ?, why ?, AT&T recommended PTA, thanks and sorry for so many questions
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cheeze[iT]:
PTA is only for lte. Our phones don't have it. Try it on PTA then try it on phone and test. I use phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brosenz:
Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brosenz:
I went to the AT&T Retail store and checked five AT&T 4G Phones:

- Galaxy Skyrocket 4G, APN = PTA

- LG Nitro 4G, APN = PTA

- HTC Vivid 4G, APN = PTA

- LG Thrill 4G, APN = Phone

- HTC Inspire 4G, APN = Phone

I do not understand why there is so much different configurations ??, I am confused :confused::confused::confused::confused:

NOTE: I checked the Galaxy S II (non 4G) as well and the APN = Phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rjstang:
I notice I do get the best pings on PTA compared to hspa+ and cingular apn
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NPuter:
I cannot get a data connection on PTA
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] r34p3rex:
Simple, LTE phones use the PTA APN. All other 4G HSPA+ phones use phone APN

IIRC, you need to be provisioned with an LTE plan in order to connect to the PTA APN
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] VegUnited:
Confirmed this working a few minutes ago, MMS as well in OKC. Ping times are insane. Using ugkk7 radio as well. OKC is an att Lte market .
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stnc:
The wap.cingular APN?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sn707:
Should be called Cingular 410 then replace wap.cingular with phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] daveop:
In Chicago (Which is an LTE market), I was able to call 611 and ask to be on the 4G LTE plan. I then used the PTA APN and my speeds were almost triple. I am getting ~8down and 1.5 up. Nice change considering it cost no different. Thanks for the heads up
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cajuncartfan:
So I just ordered this phone today and I have searched and read through threads and I think I am just confused about what APN settings I need to use when I receive the Galaxy Nexus.

I have a Skyrocket and the unlimited 4G with LTE plan. What are the best APN's to use for this device since I am provisioned with an unlimited 4G LTE plan?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] YoungAceAtlanta:
I just used the APN that came with the phone. All I did was put my sim card in and got instant data.

I manage about 2-4mbps down. 2mbps up..that's during day time usage. Depends where you live. I stay in New York sooo. Also depends on the radio on your device
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rquinn19:
You want to use the PTA APN
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] XAviierG:
You won't get ATT LTE on this device
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cajuncartfan:
I know that i wont get LTE with this phone but i also want to be able to send and receive mms as i have a 2 year old. So do i need to enter 2 apn's for this to happen? One for pta and some other one for mms.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] YoungAceAtlanta:
Your phone should come with APNs already if its imported from the UK..

the only people i know who had problems with APNs are people who import them from different countries.. You'll be fine.. its not like its hardware damage.. if your phone dont have APNs then just come here and we would give you some
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cajuncartfan:
i ordered it from negri, so i dont know where they come from. I heard they come from the Rogers network in Canada.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rquinn19:
Just because the PTA apn is for LTE phones doesn't mean you need LTE to use it. If your account is provisioned as having such phone I would use it.

The default apns that come with the phone might work but it doesn't mean its what works best. In my case the phone apn has always been best for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slyydrr:
Got mine from Negri as well. They have the Hong Kong version but you shouldn't have to modify anything. Pop your SIM card in and it should work right away. That's what I did!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
This has nothing to do with what APNs are on the phone. The APN is on the sim card. Once you put your sim card into the phone, it will load the standard APNs.

I am using wap.cingular and have had zero issues connecting to the network. I have had my phone since early January and continue to use the unlimited media net for dumbphones ($10) data plan.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rquinn19:
That is incorrect. I'm not expert and I'm not completely sure how it works, but I do know that's not how it works. APNs are somewhere on the phone. The sim card may tell the phone which to use. I can take my sim card and put it in an iphone and it will give me a completelt different apn setup. When I had the Note I would either have to input them myself or they'd be there depending upon the rom.

bottom line is I have a 4g sim that came with my Vivid and I get et all different apn settings depending on the phone. There is an apn-___.xml file somewhere that has all the apn's on the phone and I think it loads them based upion the csc.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jikenda:
I am also getting terrible speeds on my GNex with AT&T. I spoke with their support today and made sure I'm on the unlimited 4G plan and they added my IMEI to the account as well. I'm using the settings for the HSPA+ as my enabled APN, but I'm still seeing a bit over 1mbps up and like .5 down. The H above the signal bars has never been blue, only gray, but I'm not sure if that is supposed to change or not. I don't understand why these speeds are so slow. I'm still using the old 3G card from my Nexus One, but I didn't think that mattered. Do I need to get a new SIM? Any ideas/input/answers are all greatly appreciated.

Also, what Radio are you using? Anyone in NY?

Anyone else still having these speed issues?

Thanks guys!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] XAviierG:
Att sucks with this phone. I keep getting random full bars no connection service. Not sure what's the problem is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] edgeicator:
Not sure why your speeds are so low. I'm getting 7-8.5 up and 1-2 down consistently.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ATnTdude:
APN is indeed stored entirely on the phone. Android selects the APN based on what SIM is inserted. The SIM has no control over what APN's you have available. It will only tell the baseband what MNC's it can connect to and in what order (roaming list, essentially). A SIM can not hold a lot of data. In fact, a SIM doesn't have room for any more than 60-100 MNC codes, which are only 6 digits (1-10) long, which isn't even 1KB. Remember when using your cutting edge phone, that the SIM is solidly 1980's technology. The last thing that's going to be on a piece of circa 1980 tech is configurations for the internet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] carboncache:
In Tallahassee, FL, on the 4G data plan, using wap.cingular APN (best speeds & connection for me), on original locked/unrooted yajku 4.0.2.

In the middle of town, I'm seeing speeds of around ~7 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up. At my apartment and at work (along the perimeter, still in town), I'm seeing ~1.5 Mbps up and 0.75 Mbps down.

Using the phone APN, I'm lucky to see half the down speeds, but still the same up speeds.

Still miles ahead of my old Captivate though.

[GT-I9250]//xdaPremium
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] edgeicator:
UG radios seem to work the best on AT&T in my experience(california and new york tested) UGKK6, UGkk7, UGKL1, and UGLA4(current). APN is the standard 4G one found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1149523

My account is provisioned for 4G, not LTE, as I previously was using an atrix.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fountainhead931:
My Yakjuzs from HK is using standard sim and 6-7 down & 1 up, same as my Atrix.

I'm happy.

Got a new SIM and ATT guy scanned my HK GNexus IMEI with their reader at the counter went right in...its a small phone world I guess.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] greyhulk:
I would just like to add, that before reading s.m.knipe's post, I was going with the default APN and hitting about 3 mbps in my apartment. I'm in a great AT&T market and usually hit pretty fast speeds from home. After switching to the HSPA APN he posted, I'm now hitting 5 mbps consistently. It does indeed seem to matter.

I am using an LTE Sim card that I pulled out of my Galaxy Note. I'm sure the newer sim cards matter, but the APN definitely needs to be correct for the fastest speeds.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fatttire:
Your problem is AT&T congestion...i have the same problem
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Fountainhead931:
I have the same issues, 6M down and 1 meg up on early Sunday AM, but during the week 1-3 down and sometimes as bad as .3 up. No other factor can account for that change other than congestion.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AmesCell:
I noticed in the market my GN shows as being on ATT and some apps say they won't install because of carrier restrictions.

Same SIM in my GSII and it doesn't seem to know my carrier; nor does it block any apps.

Both phones are from Expansys via EU.

Seems reasonable to think if Google is treating this like a phone I bought from ATT and applying restrictions that they told ATT enough about the IMEI's for ATT to know the same info.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dawgpound6985:
Do you know if your friend changed their APN to the HSPA one and not the wap.cingular APN? Maybe changing from wap.cingular triggered the phone being identified. The HSPA isn't capped like wap.cingular is and a lot of people with GS II changed to the HSPA one for that reason.

That's unfortunate. I was hoping the reason of not waiting and getting it from the EU would bypass that device identification with AT&T. Here's what you can do. Go to OLAM (Online Account Manager) and check to see which device it says under your account. If it shows Galaxy Nexus then it means AT&T does have the IMEI numbers.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AmesCell:
Right now it lists the wrong IMEI and wrong phone. I've had it on since Friday. I remember looking when I had my SGII and it said it was an 8 GB White iPhone 4; which is a phone I've never had.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fade1d:
My data speeds are normal on at&t
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BarryH_GEG:
Any feature phone sold by AT&T will get flagged either for excessive usage or being on the wrong plan because they're tracked by IMEI. International feature phones fly below the radar because AT&T doesn't have their IMEI. The Nexi have always been the exception in the past because Google provides their IMEIs to the carriers. What happened to my friend just confirms it's still the same case with the GN. It's less about the APN than it it the IMEI. It's only a big deal to people on non-Smartphone or grand-fathered unlimited plans. If you're on a current and legit plan you can use any APN you want.