yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
I fear you are wasting your breath, my friend. The thread is out of control and flooded with flashable mods from unknown sources and questionable hacks, even after being cleaned by XDA twice so far. There is no way to make much sense of the tangle and this thread is probably doing more harm then good now.

I don't believe the devs ever paid much attention to the reports in this thread since they have an excellent internal QA process. I think it was mainly offered as a service to users, a privilege. Considering what we users have done with it I must assume they ignore the thread completely now and likely regret opening this can of worms.

If I were Teamhacksung I would close the SGS ICS alpha project, keep all subsequent builds internal until CM9 becomes official and have the mods lock this thread as they have had to do with several other ICS threads. The mods will likely lock it soon at any rate.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] biccys:
Anyone got issues adding Facebook contacts via the accounts page? I can add twitter, Yahoo! and my normal google account but not FB...?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
Facebook sync is disabled in all ICS builds by Google...so that may be why.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ngiordano:
We listen to everyone and used quite a few of the fixes posted. There are a lot of things that need to be done. It won't be done over night. We will not be supported by CM anymore unless they get a new maintainer and fix the 911 issue. So...use it or don't. But why ask to close the thread? That's petty.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xchasa:
Use friendcaster From market.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] vasillek:
See? Thats what i'm talking about!!! :p :D:D:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xchasa:
Those in the know will quietly sit back and let pawitp do his thing. He knows what's wrong with his builds. I posted bugs, went back to an unmodified stable build 9 to await patiently for build 11.

As it has been told by Google themselves 4.03 has some major/minor stability and battery issues. Why patch a broken thing?4.01 seemed a much more daily rom for me.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] habylab:
Negative, negative post. Not good.

Sent from my lag free CM7-nightly'd-up Galaxy S using the XDA Premium app
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
By using WE, you are speaking on behalf of Teamhacksung?

If so, please explain the 911 issue and the maintainer issue.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lalit79:
allow me to disagree with your point of view...i agree that there have been too many do this hack and do that mod kind of posts...but i don't see anything wrong in it and to any extent even the devs wont bother with it as well as long as it not affecting their work..

teamhacksung has done a great job in porting the ics to our phone...but they r still testing waters here...and what better way then to open this on an xda forum..

teamhacksung or the mods cannot control the excitement which is generated by something like this...when a particular feature doesnt work either the users will report it as a bug or will try their hack of their own.usually they do it by reading in other forums or threads and if it works they share it here. whats wrong in it? people who flash it should be sensible enough to understand whether to beleive that hack will work or not.

atleast in sgs forum we should be thankful that there are only 3 such mods...go and look at the nexus s forum..every tom **** and harry with slight knowledge of rom cooking has created their own roms usually integrating the small hacks from other places.

just my 2 cents :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DaXmax:
Wait a minute... CM didnt drop support us, isnt that for Samsung Vibrant users only?

Sent from my Galaxy S i9000 with ICS Build 10 + 1.5ghz OC!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
I agree wholeheartedly that Teamhacksung has done a great job, however there are LOTS of better ways to test out a ROM other then releasing it on XDA. That is why more and more devs have been forsaking XDA for their own websites or forums. If you use the analogy that a ROM is a work of art, then most of what we have seen here has not been collaboration or even critique, but graffiti. People spray painting "Dave was here" and moving on.[/QUOTE]

Harm is done in two ways..first you know very well that the majority of users here do NOT have the ability to know in advance if an apk posted in the thread is a good idea to flash or no. Many assume that if it posted here, it must be fine.

Secondly, the more mods and outside apks are flashed, the less able anyone will be, especially the devs, to tell which bugs are part of the rom and which are due to the mods. Even when someone reports one of these mods corrected an issue, there is no way to know WHICH change they made is responsible. It makes the entire exercise futile. This has been explained several times, even by Pawitp...no one is listening.

I agree...but by behaving this way in the thread they are MAKING this Rom the sort of hodgepodge you mentioned. If they want to do that, there is even a thread created for just that purpose....but they should keep it out of this thread.

and that is just my two cents ;)...if this keeps up eventually we will be able to buy a cup of coffee.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ore616:
Mate, I agree with almost everything you say..... everything except the "closing down the project" part...... I need things to flash!! :p

I also find it hilarious that ppl don't use the search functions..... :confused: it's there for us noobs so we can figure out the problems WITHOUT looking like noobs :eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kasperph:
Or buy haxsync to add facebook contactphotos, i think it works better than friendcaster8)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xchasa:
I kind of agree but the op clearly states bug reports using the builds supplied so this thread is not the one for patches and mods. People lit up when kernels were mentioned. Now nearly every page has something new to download. More confusion than ever now.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
That is correct, afaik, which is why I asked....and looking at github ngiordano has created forks of a couple Teamhacksung repos and saved them under his own name, but I am unsure of his role in all this. Hopefully he will clarify and explain what he meant.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] biccys:
That is the same as the actual FB client, still can't synchronise contacts t through the "Add account" option for FB. Oh well. I guess the previous poster was right saying google have stopped all ICS FB sync. :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] latino147:
The calender widget works fine full screen (I use ADW with 5 rows and 4 columns and it fills it up just fine. But scrolling in the list works horridly.

---------- Post added at 12:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:12 PM ----------

Where does that photo sync function sync to anyway? Picasa? I don't use any Google photo software that I know of?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kasperph:
Use haxsync, it'll do the job 8)

https://market.android.com/details?id=org.mots.haxsync
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DaXmax:
+1 , i know that 911 is only for U.S.. Plus, i9000 is a international phone not only for U.S though...

Sent from my Galaxy S i9000 with ICS Build 10 + 1.5ghz OC!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] xchasa:
I thought i could on build 9. Strange.

I think it was in app settings though.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mammenj:
This launcher has fixed the widget issue but it wiped all my home screen data, not a big issue.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Schemerlamp:
If I was a dev I'll become really demotivated reading this thread. I'm wondering what drives them to make a new build every several days.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lalit79:
haha....lets buy a 4 cents coffee and share it :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Vogie:
report Launcher bug:

FC after swype in widget section for 2 times:

http://pastebin.com/B6mawgNz

and again:

http://pastebin.com/NwXwtReu
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
Great to see the logcat Vogie, I am sure someone will be able to do something useful with it.

However, Pastepin is your friend...
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] prnit:
I installed yesterday version 10 but I was not able to get the tv-out function working...I connected the cable the system said something like cable connected than I turn the tv-out function on but nothing happened...Are you 100% sure that this option is working without trouble?

Best regards and keep up the super work for android 4!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] vasillek:
thats quite common, changing launcher, you must put all the widgets back :D:D:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
PLEASE stop posting this, use pastebin!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Vogie:
Did u try "Galaxy S Settings" app in app list!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] BlueEyes99:
every launcher has its own place to save the configuration of the desktop. changing back to the old launcher will bring the original widgets back.

anyway, just installed the data fix. which kinda helped with the data bug. but i am still having memory problems. thanks vogie for the logcat but i am pretty sure that pawitp is already aware of it and probably already working on a much more mature rom.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] T53N:
I totally agree rschenck.But there will always be noobs who ask before they read the thread. I ignore their posts and just read the interesting ones. If every one would do so, the thread would be a lot cleaner already.

It's annoying to read all the reply's on such a question. All those people tumbling over each other to attack the noob with irritated comments, just to get their own postcount higher. (I do like some of the replies with a sense of humor in it :D).

It has been mentioned in many post/threads before, but if we ignore the 'dumb' questions, we would get a much cleaner thread.......I know I'm talking to air right now ;) (And ignoring my own advise..).
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] jolle-pe:
Is already clear from this ROM when you can use in productive use? Just use the latest nightly of Cyanogen
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Vogie:
OK, It's transferred to pastebin :/
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
I see your point, but for me Noobs are a small part of the problem. Yes there will always be basic questions asked again and again, or the same point raised again. Look back at the CM7 thread and count how many times someone said "Battery life is awful" or asked "Where is my SD card?".

The problem isn't even in people being rude to noobish questions, since that always comes up and blows over pretty quickly. The problem is not people asking "How can I sync my calendar???" or answering "USE SEARCH", it is people saying "Yeah that is totally messed up, someday they will fix that. Until then flash my custom gapps fix I ripped out of a rom for the Nexus NGX then added code to increasing your dpi to 1080p and moving all data to the sd card!"
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] prnit:
Of course I have check tv out in this settings...but nothing happened on tv, have you tried and it worked? or no one have ever tried this yet?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] korndi:
is build 10 based on 4.0.3?

i am still on build 1 :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] guijarrelson:
Yes, is based of official latest sources atm.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] vali_ics:
yea.......
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] vasillek:
I dont understand your point. I want to use build10, love it, and there are obvious problems, even hundred times reported. So why cannot i share fix that helped me, when i want test other features?

Sorry but not properly working launcher and browser make this build a bit unusable, but i want to test it further, and i dont see any problem with sharing quick fix. There is lot of fixes listed here, but as everything other, it is repeating. When you read carefully build10 posts, its about 5 different possible fixes, so not so confusing.

And maybe teamhacksung could probably gain from some fixes, dont you think?

Edit:

i think that most terrible are still again repeating calls for help with root, data, etc, even with solution 3 posts above, thats insane!!!

its real mess, and you say, its ok ,but

when somebody tries to help, thats evil?

wow!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ruicc:
Same question again and again.....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] vasillek:
thats good, thats how they want this thread seems, no selfmade fixes, no solutions, only repeating whinning by ultra lamas which cannot read even few posts above!!! grrrrrr! :eek:
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Bara2:
My personal experience: Build 10 is at least as fast and more stable than onecosmic's RC1 - so now I am eagerly waiting for Build 11 :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Vogie:
it wasn't a question. it just want to report how this ROM is awesome that the Build 1 still is OK for daily usage! [Just i think :-D ]
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] T53N:
The point is that this thread should be as clean as possible. It's a development thread for a specific build of ICS. If everyone posts there own fixes, the thread will be (and is already) cluttered. There is a separate thread for own fixes and adjustements. The fixes should be posted there.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Schemerlamp:
Yes it is....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] kkube:
I was on page 556, wanted to find out what going on with this build. I am on build 9 and happy with it.

After I reached page 565 I saw there has been 2 more pages, but till then I was so borred, there was nothing related to development which this thread should be really about.

If you miss reading this thread for one whole day. It gets 100 odd pages.

If it is ao frustrating for me to go through, how much would it be for devs. No wonder they don't stick around.

There are more than 50 people reporting same bug and over that 100 people ranting them out, which takes a toll on the thread with 10+ pages.

How can one go all thorugh that.

I agree OP states for bug reports, but don't report it again and again.

There is a launcher bug, everyone knows it. Next build it will be rectified. So don't report it again and again, and also to people stop ranting over noobs, ignore them. Coz your ranting also takes a toll on the thread.

Just my two cents.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
Fully agree

Move on......
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Vogie:
I'm going to "Yalda Night" party.

I wish pawtip will release next build to be something like "yalda night"'s gift ;-)

Let me happy with my dreams :)

(Yeah i know it's dev Topics. take it easy)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] mloc33:
That`s about as useful as a telling a prostitute, you should be as clean as possible, like this thread, everybody`s going to "use" her/it....it will never change.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
This is not meant to be a flame war, we all want this ROM to grow and thrive and become CM9 as it should be...and we want to use it in the meantime.

I don't want to discuss whether you should be posting fixes to "help" Teamhacksung as you infer, or about if noobish questions should not be answered.

I absolutely applaude your desire to help, I just feel you are going about it in a way that is counter productive.

Please remember this is meant to be a TESTING thread. What you are doing by offering config fixes and third-party apks from other phones is basically stopping people at their doctor's door with a jar of pills and saying "They mean well, but they will take too long to fix what ails you...here, use THIS instead." Your solution may solve the problem in the short term, but in doing so how can the doctor diagnose it in the long term, and how will he know if HIS treatment works? Your solution may also NOT work, and become a new problem for the doctor to try and solve, now with the added bonus of not being sure what other "cures" are at work.

When this thread has a big flag at the top saying CM9 RC1 I would say "Mod in good health, go get em..."

Until then help should be limited, in my option, to advice and recommendations WITHIN THE SPHERE of the software as released by Teamhacksung.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] darkargon:
Compass in google maps does not work at all for me. (Build 10)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
That is universally true it seems on Maps v6.x. Hopefully Google will fix it in the next update of Maps.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ruicc:
Very good, rschenck...that's the spirit....

This should be on the 2nd post of this thread.....

Cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] marcedli:
OFF

hey buddy!

despite I completely agree with you - you rule this thread now in number of posts....and i could bet on that more than half of it was about the usual 'what to post here - how to post here' topic and not bugreport

we should keep our mouth (ok...fingers) closed here, do not reply here on anything, only stick to pawitp's rules, and use the other thread for helping out ppl w problems.

if you or anybody act here as a 'policeman', it only raises only 10-20 more offtopic posts

only problem that i really love your essays about forum rules, noobs, xda, cm...whatever...

no offense :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] ruicc:
I understand what rschenck are trying to tell to everyone....

If no one act here as a policeman, thread will be raised with 30-40 off topic.

Maybe, we should demand more moderation on this thread....
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DaXmax:
I think u know what we should do? Pawitp lock this dev thread till the next release... Make use of the General Official CM9 Thread... If not, offtopics mod will continue and moderators are going to clean this thread again and again... So whaddya think?

Sent from my Galaxy S i9000 with ICS Build 10 + 1.5ghz OC!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] latino147:
I vote to give rschenk absolute power to relentlessly delete any stupid post! Including this one ;)

Most don't even read the 1st post ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] tommy34:
good idea ! I vote rschenk for moderator.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] marcedli:
i don't think he wants this "throne" - a lot of work and no respect...

2. solution

agree..or to help pawitp whoever sends a bugreport it can be highlighted and noticeable, like:

BUGREPORT

i cannot find samsung apps after flashing build10
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] siky_dude:
*****en idea :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lalit79:
lol...r u serious? Sammy apps in a cm build? :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
dood!!!! Search the thread ya scabby noob person!!!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] siky_dude:
Relax, it was just a joke.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
Damn right I don't...at least not unless I get a special hat.

Absolute power does sound...interesting, however.

I love that idea...but there is no way we will get people to do it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lalit79:
Aye aye got it..went through the old posts now :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] aexontion:
Hey, i added the logfile as a attachement. I hope you can help me!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] rschenck:
What SMS/MMS app are you using? The stock messaging app?
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] aexontion:
Yes, it's called SMS/MMS or Messaging in the english version
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] latino147:
use it for good, not for eViL ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Ganfas:
I'm thinking in flash this rom, but i would like to know if it's easy to go back do CM7 nightly 181.

Do i need to do something different to go back, or Can i use the process:

- Flash Stock Rom

- Install CWM

- Flash CM7

Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] lalit79:
ganfas...good that u want to try out this rom....but regarding ur question it would have been great if u would have read the OP....especially this stmt there

Note: The upgrade process from CM7 to ICS is automatic, but downgrading from ICS to CM7 (or restoring Nandroid) requires flashing twice. Once from ICS and again from CM7's recovery.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] habylab:
You can, but you can also flash CM7 181, and then pull battery and flash again and you are back. Can restore an update too then after.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Ganfas:
Ups... i read the OP but miss the note. Thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] addicted2088:
Wipe data/factory reset, then flash the CM7 zip. Then remove and reinsert battery, go into recovery and flash the zip again. Then it will work..
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] schiphol:
OFF

I'd really like to be the one to stem the tide of replies by people that can't seem to cease flouting the rules as laid out in the OP. I follow this entire thread almost daily and am becoming increasingly annoyed at the petty behavior of some in here. I can imagine this thread must be a total nightmare for the devs to sift thru on the hunt for bugs. The sole purpose of the discussion can only be to harness the intimate knowledge of bugs actual users might have, there is absolutely NO reason for tensions to be ratcheting up, nor for people to even respond to one another.

The following might help: if anyone has a problem; why not, as a rule, post it in general first. If your problem can't be resolved with the help of others over there, you may then post in here by briefly describing what your issue is about, provided no one has beaten you to the punch. As such, There is no need for anyone to respond to bug reports made in this thread, allowing it to stay clean, for the devs will be able to identify and work thru issues with greater ease.

In short, if you think you have identified a bug, ask around in general first. If no one can help you out, post it here, but don't expect a response. When pawtip churns out the next build, you may just find your report has been picked up and your problem fixed. Fingers crossed!

On a final note, no one has asked anyone to police this thread or post their opinions and day to day activities in every second other post. @Rschenck especially, I really believe there will be few who appreciate the avalanche of immature and bigoted responses from someone who appears to have nothing better to do than to prowl this thread for an opportunity to call people out.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] unforgiven:
I've not used onecomics's rc1 but using build 10 and satisfied with it.waiting for 11:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DROCSID:
Did you make a Nandroid backup? Restore it twice, delete cache,

fix permissions and you're also ready to go!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] edgardurao:
I use it already in my day-to-day....

It's good. a bit laggy sometimes but i can live with it.

Just have exchange calendar bug, anda disabled /datadata and no problems.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] DaXmax:
A newer gapps which works on Build 10 here... All is updated to 4.0.3 but i will need Kaiks541 to remove the Face Unlock as its fc'ing on it too... Here... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1404041

Sent from my Galaxy S i9000 with ICS Build 10 + 1.5ghz OC!!!
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] cnn888:
just to add that, faceunlock, whatsapp and installs and works just fine on onecosmic's rc1, but not on b10.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] zzapall:
I found bug, sound connection is not repeated.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] guijarrelson:
I receive a call, and the unlock slide to get the call, going to be crazy. I tried to get the call, and the unlock circle, moved without touching the screen.

I think notifications (gmail for example), incoming sms and incoming calls with the device lock, looks like is not integrated so good.
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] marcedli:
valuable idea
[Galaxy S I9000 Android Development] Raulinho7:
Maybe found a way to add SamsunApps :) (thanks to Galnet's trick)

Trying right now, i ll let u know ASAP ;)