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[Kindle Fire General] newz54:
The mic/headphone I use with my ipod touch to make calls via skype and google voice does not work on the kindle fire for google voice. The other party can't hear me. As others have experienced on skype...it just hangs up before connecting.

The hi tech mp3 recording app does record audio from the mic.

Today I purchased a Cellet mic adapter...allows you to use your own headphone but adds a microphone. This is also a no go. We should keep track of what doesn't work.
[Kindle Fire General] k4955:
Installed Google Voice search and using my headset with microphone I spoke to the recently installed program. The Voice search showed audio waves in a small window but then the application stopped and I had to force close the application. Did any one have similar experience? The Voice search works with "Speaktoit" supposed to be "Siri" for Android. Besides using a microphone one could type a message and "speaktoit" recognizes. I wish we could find a way to make the microphone input in KF to work thereby allowing multitudes of apps.
[Kindle Fire General] bennettg:
many people seem to be having the same issues. can the original poster please clarify which specific mic/headset combo works and what specific apps they work with? thanks in advance.
[Kindle Fire General] 2psps:
My failed attempt was with a basic headphone/mic set that

came with my lg optimius.

Groove ip : other person could not hear me
[Kindle Fire General] grvthang:
I was the original poster who was able to use a mic. I tried an ipod-type headphone-Mic combo. I had only tried recording on an app called Tape-a-Talk, and using it with a guitar tuned app, Gstrings. I haven't come across anyone on this forum who has successfully used Skype on the Fire as yet.
[Kindle Fire General] FlashFire1:
I do not know what is causing these problems. I am going to research a way to fix this.

Please have patience
[Kindle Fire General] FlashFire1:
I have installed many calling programs, like Skype and Google Voice. But for some reason when I call someone, they cannot hear me but I can hear them. There is nothing wrong with the microphone, I have tested it and it works.

For some reason, the app does not detect the microphone on the earpiece. It detects the headphone though.

If there was some way we could fix this?
[Kindle Fire General] FlashFire1:
bump!

Any news on this?
[Kindle Fire General] newz54:
FlashFire1. I am confused. Last week you gave us all hope that this works with skype and google voice if you have the right mic.

you wrote....

I haven't used any sound recording apps yet. I have used Google Voice and Skype with my headset and they work great. Maybe you should try another sound recording app?

Today you wrote

I have installed many calling programs, like Skype and Google Voice. But for some reason when I call someone, they cannot hear me but I can hear them. There is nothing wrong with the microphone, I have tested it and it works.

Has something changed? If not one person has gotten this to work....it certainly doesn't bode well for finding a solution .
[Kindle Fire General] bleepyboop:
It would appear from most responses that the Kindle Fire TRRS pinouts are the standard (Apple/HTC/Samsung Galaxy S2/etc) left/right/ground/mic.

Nokia/Sony Ericsson/Samsung Galaxy S/etc TRRS pinouts are left/right/mic/ground. If you have a headset which is compatible with one of the phones from this list: (meelec.com/Articles.asp?ID=155#Compatibility), then it should be compatible with the Kindle Fire.

Otherwise, getting an adapter that inverts R2 and S will probably enable it to work. The same website or (mp4nation.net/catalog/fiio-lu1-35mm-smart-adapter-cable-ofc-p-591.html) has it. (Sorry, links are not hyperlinks due to anti-spam.)
[Kindle Fire General] terracode:
The Kindle Fire has the same hardware as the Pandaboard. Per the OMAPedia.org, The top half of the audio in/out connector on the board is meant to be used as Line-in. It goes on to say that the line level is quite low so some mics with low gain may not function properly to record audio. They recommend dynamic/powered mics to get optimal results. If there is an audio app that also provides a way of controlling mic volume, this would help. This is why possibly some apps do not work properly since they do not detect the incoming sound due to it being too low.

FYI.. the following lines were found in the build.prop file:

#define defaults for audio D/A mic and power mode

omap.audio.mic.main=AMic0

omap.audio.mic.sub=AMic1

omap.audio.power=PingPong
[Kindle Fire General] rad3:
So far,I haven't really heard any solid responses to whether these headset mics work with apps such as Skype or google voice. My tests show what I I'm hearing consistently out here - that these headsets work fine with basic audio applications, but not with some of the communication oriented apps.

Its obvious the Fire supports audio, but is there another service missing that will allow these apps to work? I've also noticed that Evernote, which should be just a simple audio recorder, reports that no Mic is found, as well.

Is there anyone out there who understands the Android audio components that might be able to shred some light on this?
[Kindle Fire General] newz54:
It seems the internet is all over the map on the wiring from a kindle trrs jack.

What has been posted is for iphone style....left/right/ground/mic

and for samsung style left/right/mic/ground.

Some websites say the tip is the mic. On my headset, that works with my iphone touch, the mic is closest to the connector (away from the tip) and the ground is the next band.

Seems to me if the ground is just in the wrong place for the kindle I would have no audio coming from the headphones as the ground would also be in the wrong place for it.
[Kindle Fire General] rad3:
I 'm using a headset wired for the iPhone. Works fine with basic audio recording apps. Doesn't work with google voice, Skype, our Evernote. Not sure the tip has anything to do with the mic's ability to work with these apps, if it already works for other audio apps.

Wondering if there's a particular audio service that needs to be installed, or if there's actually a hardware component missing.
[Kindle Fire General] terracode:
I found some apps that allow for mic volume adjustment (such as HD2 Mic Control and VooDoo Control App) but they require kernal to support it. There was mention of a file mic_level in /proc. I don't see the mic_level file in the proc folder.
[Kindle Fire General] eoy4:
I have an iPhone 4 (or iPod touch 4 gen) headset, but i haven't been able to successfully get this to work... All the apps that require audio input seem to crash on my KF. For example, with an app called "Easy Sound Recorder", i get "The application Easy Sound Recorder (process com.alienroid.aliensound) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again".

Google voice doesn't work, and skype and gtalk drop all outgoing and incoming calls. Also, the google search widget that I'm using shows a little mic icon at system startup, but it disappears after a few seconds (I'm using the one that came with Go Launcher EX).

Is this due to the headset, or is this happening because the KF does not support audio properly?
[Kindle Fire General] buhind:
sounds awsome will try it now
[Kindle Fire General] antagonizt:
just adding to the reports...

I am able to record my voice with Tape-a-Talk but am unable to use Skype or GV using my iPhone headset.
[Kindle Fire General] FlashFire1:
bump

Any progress?
[Kindle Fire General] eabyrd:
I'm stumped. Tape-a-talk won't even show up in the Market when I use the fire. When I pull it up online it won't allow me to install it to the Fire. Same thing happened when I tried to install Skype. I sideloaded an APK then but since you can get this stuff from the market I gotta ask...

What am I doing wrong here?
[Kindle Fire General] terracode:
Tested Apps using Edutige EIM-001 TRRS Mic:

1. Easy Sound Recorder: Force closes

2. AudioBoo: Works, but you need to plug in mic prior to starting app or it is not recognized.

3. Skype launches and allows a call to be made. Hangs up a second after call is answered.

4. Google Talk 1.3: Couldn't test video chat (voice only on Fire side). The Google ID is tied to my Android phone so the phone received the invite. I can text fine on Talk 1.3.
[Kindle Fire General] Glasairmell:
Yup, same problems here. The Samsung unit I bought with high hopes is put away for now until perhaps better results come from future roms.
[Kindle Fire General] terracode:
... Also Google Voice Search 2.1 force closes.

I am beginning to think the TRRS mic connection is not a mic input but a 'Line-In' input. This would cause apps using the Mic specific calls to error out, but ones checking line-In may work properly. A mic with a pre-amp or high gain may be needed. Just a guess.
[Kindle Fire General] newz54:
I am not aware of any phones or tablets that have line-in inputs so there is no reason for the software to look for it.

The fact that several audio apps including Hi-Q Mp3 work perfectly with the external mic tends to rule out a hardware problem.

I can only assume there is some file on the fire that tells the software what it's capabilities are.....namely it doesn't normally have a microphone. Figure that out and we might be able to lick this problem. Once the developer guys are done working on roms....maybe they can tackle this issue.

It appears we have put to rest that no matter what brand or type of external mic.....it won't work with skype and google voice. At least for now
[Kindle Fire General] troydog:
It has been a long time since I used android but looking at the system file a mic should work but might need to be adjusted . I use to own a zt180 and know about the codes a little. This is what the system file shows for mic

##

## Recording device

##

pcmm.AndroidRecord {

type hooks

slave.pcm default

hooks.0 {

type ctl_elems

hook_args [

{

name 'Analog Left Capture Route Main Mic'

Value 'on'

Lock False

pereserve true

optional false

}

{

name 'Analog Right Capture Route Sub Mic'

Value 'on'

Lock False

pereserve true

optional false

Now what I know there is a code part you can add to raise the mic up or down I think it would be this

Replace Value 'on' With Value [ ] you would add a number most times it is the number twice like this say [54 54]

I might pick up a mic and try out a few things myself. Also might try Lock set it to True all changes need a reboot after there done
[Kindle Fire General] terracode:
In a previous comment I had mentioned that OMAPedia.org noted that for the Pandaboard (reference board for OMAP4) that the input is a Line-In. This is possibly is similar to what we are seeing on the Fire. The Pandaboard also uses a TRRS connector.

Per OMAPedia:

I am not able to record Audio using Mic-in?

Top half of the audio connector on Panda is meant to be used as Line-in to record streams from MP3 players, PC speakers etc. You may find some Dynamic/Powered mics that work but the gain of the recorded audio stream will be quite low.
​

More info on audio architecture:

http://omapedia.org/wiki/Audio_Drive_Arch
[Kindle Fire General] FlashFire1:
This might be a possible solution. Could you test it out and see if it works? I would but I know nothing about how to get into the system files and edit that kind of stuff, sorry.
[Kindle Fire General] troydog:
Playing around with the settings no luck yet. But know got a error using talking tom I never got before.

error no speech recognizer installed install from market

will update if I get anything to work

---------- Post added at 04:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:18 PM ----------

Ok got it to work somewhat it is mono right so trying to get stereo out of it now. Also still changing settings this might take a few hours, I am thinking there is some software not installed on this unit itself might be why somethings are not working at all.

Stereo working did a change to the code changed the line

'Analog left capture rout main mic to Analog Capture Rout Sub mic'

now tring a few things such as false to true so on
[Kindle Fire General] terracode:
I got the error above when I tried to install Speaktoit. After I installed the Google Voice Search, the app installed. Unfortunately the app force quits when the mic button is pressed.
[Kindle Fire General] k4955:
@Terracode:

I had reported the same back on December 1, 2011. I am glad that I was not alone.

"Installed Google Voice search and using my headset with microphone I spoke to the recently installed program. The Voice search showed audio waves in a small window but then the application stopped and I had to force close the application. Did any one have similar experience? The Voice search works with "Speaktoit" supposed to be "Siri" for Android. Besides using a microphone one could type a message and "speaktoit" recognizes. I wish we could find a way to make the microphone input in KF to work thereby allowing multitudes of apps."
[Kindle Fire General] susja:
Hi.

could you please confirm that you are able to make a call using your mic and Kindle Fire on Skype?

I am interested very much it. I use one of the mic recommended in this thread but when I try to call Skype it does not work.

Fhanks in advance
[Kindle Fire General] rad3:
Pretty sure no one has Skype working on the Fire yet for voice. Looks like terracode is looking into seeing if this capability can be enabled. The Mic in on the fire seems to work with some basic recording apps but is disabled in some of the key communications apps, like Skype and Google Voice.
[Kindle Fire General] jojo54696:
thanks, i have been wanted to record some things for school with my fire.
[Kindle Fire General] bobrien2:
Groove IP

It makes calls perfectly well. Force close when hanging up, which isn't a huge problem. Now if the microphone would work this would be a great VOIP device. Tried playing with the troubleshooting settings, nothing works yet. Anyone made any progress with other apps?
[Kindle Fire General] xfire0384:
The headset that came with my Droid X doesn't work... I can hear, but no voice.

Edit: Voice recorder works, calls doesn't
[Kindle Fire General] eabyrd:
I got a Gvoice account setup and completed a call but the microphone on a Apple's IPOD Touch 4G headphones does not register. Neither does the mic on a pair of sony headphones I've used with Skype on the IPOD and with various cell phones over the last year or so,
[Kindle Fire General] FlashFire1:
bump.

any progress on this?
[Kindle Fire General] krelvinaz:
This guide is bogus for skype and Google Voice.

This is a very misleading [GUIDE]...

Normally, a guide is an article that shows what to do to make something work. The OP makes that statement in the first post.

Emphasis is mine...

Turns out nobody, including the OP has actually gotten this to work with either Skype or Google Voice ON the Kindle Fire.

The OP should update the first post to indicate this Guide Does not work for those two apps as those are what most people are looking for.

It does appear to work for some audio apps, but it is a very misleading Guide to suggest that it does for Skype or Google Voice, because it doesn't.

This very thread has spawned a number of other threads where the OP keeps referring back to his Guide as if it works, which makes things even more confusing.
[Kindle Fire General] troydog:
Yes the op of this should fix it. A mic will work only with a very few audio recorders. It will not work with talking rex tom or any voip software apk. Nor will it work for voice to text input.

I been all over the files in this unit have not seen any drivers or info on input beside the basic stuff. Only way this could work would be with the right system files and info. But then is the ear phone output jack even made as a mic input combo?
[Kindle Fire General] FlashFire1:
Sorry about that.

I have edited the original post.

Thanks :)
[Kindle Fire General] Smmoph:
Have " Voice Actions" working well, to an extent! But "Talking Tomcat2" not hearing me. drats.:confused:
[Kindle Fire General] wassupsumu:
Any progress.....

What happened to sys file MOD.......???
[Kindle Fire General] thomaswgc:
no incoming call alert

Is there any way we can turn on the incoming call alert in gvoice or groove ip. The incoming call ringtone automatically turns to silent in these apps. Any idea how to fix this?
[Kindle Fire General] wassupsumu:
But what abut mic???? Did It worked for u????
[Kindle Fire General] dr.matrix:
A worthwhile app that this does work with is Shazam. This app identifies songs (like SoundHound), will show lyrics, link to YouTube, other features. I got it free from 1mobile app store and it is working great. My Fire is not even rooted.
[Kindle Fire General] dj.lub:
Messed around with this using my iPhone headphones with a mic and had success with quite a few apps.
[Kindle Fire General] androidgirlx:
I red that i can use KF with recording option with an external microphone? is'nt it?
[Kindle Fire General] thomaswgc:
I installed voice alerts. Now I can hear incoming call alert in the form of spoken voice. Also installed acrobits softphone. so now i can get google to call my kindle fire to use the call back feature. google connects me to the number i want, I can hear from the other side, but thats all. Also installed ringo pro, so now i can customise the ring tone as well. Groove ip connects directly anyway.
[Kindle Fire General] bldvx:
bump!

This thread should get a sticky until our amazing brains at xda come up with a solution/fix to make Skype/GVoice work !
[Kindle Fire General] kodemage:
How did you get google voice to work and have you tried skype? I can't get skype to make calls.
[Kindle Fire General] bdecie:
asound/Skype

I also have success with iPhone mic + talk-a-play. I note /etc/astound.conf shows both mic channels ON. Could this be part of the problem? Linux Alsa doesn't work with Skype unless you turn one channel off because the 2 channels cancel each other out. Someone who really knows Alsa needs to have a good look at this file. I don't really understand it, but it definitely gives a description for a mic.
[Kindle Fire General] sunkast:
For what it's worth, I tried Talkatone's Android Preview version on my KF. I was able to answer phone calls without it FC'ing like other VOIP apps, but it still didn't work with the Apple headset mic I am using.
[Kindle Fire General] Scaevola:
I had two different Nokia headset cables, I tried them both I couldn't make them work with Shazam. Are you sure that Shazam works properly?
[Kindle Fire General] troydog:
Shazam worked for me. It found a bunch of songs. I got a ge headset from the dollar store cost about 6 bucks,
[Kindle Fire General] latv:
Guys, lets help each other, we have the same problem with Nook Tablet: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1368782
[Kindle Fire General] shefo:
Anyone Tried the mic with Dragon Go ??
[Kindle Fire General] GBH2:
Dragon Go works on the KFire with my Jlabs J5M"s.
[Kindle Fire General] k4955:
Whenever I try to install Dragon Go! 1.1, it fails. How did you manage to install?
[Kindle Fire General] Smmoph:
Thanks for this Dragon Go. Works well.
[Kindle Fire General] tkindle:
can you explain how you installed dragon go?I d/loaded the .apk and moved it to system and then tried to install but it fails.I know I must be missing something somewhere.

thanks
[Kindle Fire General] evgeny9:
No duplex audio

It seems, that KF does not support duplex audio streaming. Calling applications (like Skype) check it on start or before accepting call and stop the activity.

To check it, try recording audio and playing some sound at the same time - there will be recorded silence...
[Kindle Fire General] shravbits:
I control my fire by voice: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1543798
[Kindle Fire General] thedeveloper1:
Kindle Fire Support Mic

So when will the Kindle Fire be able to support a Microphone that can use calling apps?
[Kindle Fire General] evgeny9:
I'm afraid that the answer is never. I read that it is a hardware issue, so that you can attach a microphone (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1362647) and even can use it for audio input (recording and so on), but you can't use the audio output at the same time. Calling apps just detect this and refuse to work.
[Kindle Fire General] Vlasp:
Does Google Now on the Alien droid rom work with this?
[Kindle Fire General] frec:
i heard hashcode is working on the mic problem for kf on jelly bean. I guess we just have to wait for it. I wanted to use kf with google now. It looks like fun.
[Kindle Fire General] Dusius:
Yes but how long ?
[Kindle Fire General] kRt_uK:
Have someone tried Tango?
[Kindle Fire General] crashlen0:
benefits gerougm

No video/calling apps seem to work. I tested this on CM10 Aliendroid.
[Kindle Fire General] SHAX321:
Skype?

It's clearly stated that skype does NOT work with the Mic. It works for you?
[Kindle Fire General] refinition:
Im guessing it should, judging from other comments
[Kindle Fire General] pkarza:
I've never had any luck with a mic on the Kindle Fire at all... I must be missing something.
[Kindle Fire General] benjikillo:
Working with skype!

There is a way to get kindle fire work with skype, I tried it on my own so it should also work for you. First you need to have an extermal microphone. Then download unofficial apk (skype app) from the internet. Install the app and go ahead and log in. One you are in you go to settimg>general>appearance and set it on "classic view" (ignore what it says about being configured for smartphones. Then just restart and enjoy. It should work. For me I only have a microphone separately (bought from amazon) no headset so for those who have the same thing as I do just go ahead and call and down on the screen when you see a headset icon clock on it and change it to speaker (unfortunately you have to do it evertime). If I helped you are welcome, and if you need help or video tutorial just email me on my account benjikillo@gmail.com. :victory:
[Kindle Fire General] pwrdbykimchi:
Haha, the beginning of this thread is full of rainbows and unicorns but then it crashes and burns by the end. :(

Anyway, I think it's safe to say that fully utilizing VoIP apps is an impossibility for the first-generation Kindle Fire due to hardware limitations.
[Kindle Fire General] gcvsa:
Well, I guess I'll stop waiting for microphone support. I know I used my iPhone headset two years ago, when I first got my otter, but then when I updated, support was removed.
[Kindle Fire General] gruuvin:
The problem was/is not hardware -- the hardware supports full-duplex audio streams! No, the problem was always that no kernel was ever produced to support this hardware function so that the many apps out there could make use of it.... which is a shame, because in addition to using skype on the kindle fire, we could have made wifi calls with a google voice account. Some devs had intentions of adding this support to the drivers compiled into their kernels but never could see it through with their long lists of "nice-to-haves" that are now "never-gonna-haves" because the kindle fire is not the most popular device anymore.
[Kindle Fire General] Logos Ascetic:
Please upload the Unofficial Skype APK you used
[Kindle Fire General] nigerlet:
So no matter what there is still no way to make a call on a Kindle Fire?

I just pulled mine out and the only thing I need it for is for wi-fi calling.

There is no Kernel, Rom, or app that will make this possible?
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If that's not what you're asking, sorry, but you might need to try and rewrite your question.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
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[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lindan sian:
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