yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Shadow Death:
Yes, he would be. Its pretty amusing seeing everyone freaking out over the ram graph being wrong.

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
It's been fixed regardless ;)

But what else do you guys wanna see in v16.0?

This is a special release for my age :D
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
I run deep idle all the time with both the lazy & wheatley gov. Never had any issues with playing music or anything else. I am also running it with the stock voltages. I absolutely agree that the phones either like our dislike different kernels and settings. I think I'm lucky in that my phone seems very tolerant. There hasn't really been anything I've tried on it that it dislikes.

Just flash it...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] dragas89:
Thanks for a great kernel math kid, my phone seems to respond best to your kernel, I frequent it on my phone. However, Would any one have a suggestion to battery saving options while playing music from google's music app while screen off; but still having the snappy speed while using the phone? I currently have been running Matr1x 14.5 with oICSv43 on Smartassv2, default stock volts, and gov speeds of Min:200/Max: 1460. I only know how to OC with voltage, not save power , thanks!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Lento10:
I had the Google music fc and phone reboot using deep idle playing music (screen off)

But that's the only time I had problems with this kernel.

This kernel has been rock solid, great speed and many choices.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
You run overclocked to 1460 and you want battery savings? Really? The two don't go together... You can't have your cake and eat it too.

My only suggestion to help with battery life would be to stop overclocking.

Just flash it...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Yep! Lol
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] bloden:
If the CPU can finish a task and return back to idle faster, then overclocking can actually improve battery savings in some situations. This assumes [voltage vs frequency] ratio favors the frequency. (does 10% voltage increase allow for more than 10% frequency increase?)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
I can't answer if the 10% voltage increase does anything as i have never changed my voltages. However, I'm constantly getting over 20 hours out of my battery with 4-6 hours of on screen time, without overclocking. I seem to lose up to 1.5 hours off my battery for every 500 mhz I overclock.

Just flash it...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] joebarkho:
I was gonna say could u include 3 different versions. Standard, slightly undervolted, and undervolted?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
People seem to ask for a lot of stuff they can do for themselves. MK is a full time high school student. Do you really expect him to make everyone a custom kernel?

Just flash it...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] LeftonJackman:
^^^What he said.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] dragas89:
Any way other than missing the point of my question completely skunk, I will clarify this. My current settings are smart ass v2 at 1426/200 . I only know how to over clock and was looking for some insight on settings to get more battery power l, but still have a snappy system, thanks.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] crzycrkr:
Ad stated, don't overclock that much. Its really not necessary. My setup is plenty snappy at 200-1200. 200-1000 ain't bad either
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] wctom:
IMO only, for day to day work, I really don't see much improvement in response with overclocking. On the contrary, I get random reboots and screen freezes as the freq. goes up. Sure, the Quadrant scores look better, but that's about it.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] joebarkho:
Cool thing here is to be assholes I see.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
And I stand by my original post... The first settings change I would make to save battery is to lower that 1426 down a bit. In real world speed its not much different than 1200 or even 1000. Sure this kernel is rock solid at your settings (Thanks to this great kernel) but I still feel you lose more battery life than any minute amount of real world speed you gain from it.

If your lucky you might see a gain in speed of perhaps 10% but lose like 25% or more in battery life.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] mushupork:
@Dragas89: And to follow up on Skunk Ape's post, try moving your freqs to 200/1000 and revert to kernel default voltage (which is undervolted). I'm guessing you upped the voltage to operate stable at 1426.

Run it like that for 2 days and see how you feel about the battery life vs. responsiveness. Always worth putting a bit of work into testing for yourself. No one else's results are likely to be identical to yours. :)

Best of luck.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
And if it isn't doing what you want it to... then...

Hammer/baseball bat ;)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] mushupork:
Haha, absolutely!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Shadow Death:
Android is the Muscle Car of the phone market. It runs really fast and get's really crappy Gas Mileage. That's the point of having an Android Phone. If you're looking for battery life for longer than a day while making phone calls... Get a flip phone. :P
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Hahaha ;)

So 16.0 is being cooked up now, trying to find some good performance tweaks and have 3.0.19 in

anything else you guys need?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] joebarkho:
I need it NOW! please :)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] the1dynasty:
Just flashed cfs 15.5 and you're working on releasing 16.0? Slow down lol
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Don't worry its gonna be special...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] joebarkho:
Do you think itll be out in less than 30 mins? Cause If not, I want to go to bed lol
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Probably not lol
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] joebarkho:
Gooooooood Night!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] roachy56:
I noticed when I flashed 15.5 the status bars on bigxie's apex 1.0.2 rom went from blue to Grey any ideas can't tell if it's the kernel or the ROM
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kyouko:
Pretty sure that just means you're not signed into Google Talk
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Shadow Death:
That's pretty much it.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] joebarkho:
pretty sure that means the phone isn't connected to google servers, which wont allow you to use the internet. Try the new kernel coming up, fresh install after whatever rom your on, OR try putting your phone in airplane mode for a couple mins, then swtich back to normal, should fix it.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Looking for testers pm me email id
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] LeftonJackman:
Just wanted to share some stats.

Running 15.5 cfs

Apex 1.0.2

800/200 lazy gov, screen off max freq on.

Deep idle on

Stock voltages

No live O.C.

Latest radio (KL2)

Freeze:

Facebook

NFC

Wallet

Sprint Hidden Menu

I had the luxury of using Wifi most of the day but had heavier call volume. I must admit the new radio helped out too. Much better signal in Greater Cleveland.

Great work! I appreciate it!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
Those sound just like my settings...;)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] LeftonJackman:
"If someone's done it better, steal from them and go out strong."

I certainly started with your settings since you've been nice enough to post them and have been tweaking them to my phone and usage. That's what community is for, right? ;-)

Thanks Skunk!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] :
OK I'm using this kernel what are good settings for very good speed with descent battery..I have tried all settings don't know what the hell settings are lol..I'm using Android Code name Rom.. I just can't get my phone speedy with out killing my battery...I'm sure this has been asked a million times sorry.:confused:
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] :
Is there a thread that shows the different settings etc ....
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Taking last minute feature requests. I'll only add stuff if I feel is necessary
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
Lol... No problem. That's why I posted them. Glad it worked for you. Have you tried the same setting with the Wheatley gov? I have good luck with that as well.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] LeftonJackman:
I did try that governor and I think I noticed what a lotta people noticed. When the screen was off or the phone was asleep I noticed almost no battery drain. But when I had the phone on or was using it it drained quicker than lazy. I am a pretty heavy user of my phone. So I figured I'd stick with lazy.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
16 coming soon! ;D
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
Thanks :thumbup:

°•neXus S4G•°
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Thanks, updating now
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] joebarkho:
donde es deep idle?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Lento10:
Deep idle was removed.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] mattallica76:
So far, so good.

Trying out the Intellidemand gov now.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] stellar:
And i'm back to matr1x! Thanks mathkid :D

Oh and if you dont mind me asking, whats your current setup? (ROM,kernel settings?) :)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
Love the new gov intellidemand. Definitely snappier than the last build. :thumbup:

°•neXus S4G•°
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] obsanity:
So what was the reason for removing the deep idle from the kernel? If it was off by default, if someone had issues with it, just don't use it. I do a lot if podcasts in a day and I swear by the deep idle mod. It is saving me from having to recharge lunch time. I used to do that before that.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Shadow Death:
So far so good, I've got my settings at 1200/200 with Intelidemand. Not too shabby at all. :)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Deep idle and cpuidle backport do not compile when together :)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] obsanity:
Cpuidle huh... got to read up on that.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] toddlmr:
My app drawer went to 12 apps from however many is default? Weird... I'm on aokp milestone 3 with #16.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] scott420:
Running awesome on code name androids 1.3.0 build 1300/400 intellidemand
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] mayoko185:
anyone have a link w/ more info about cpuidle? Im trying to search info on google w/ no luck...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
Deep idle was removed and cpuidle added in it's place. You won't see any settings as it works behind the scene and it's always on.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] enosh816:
what are your cpu settings since wheatly is gone.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
MK... So far running excellent. Smoothest yet... Even underclocked to 800 it is very smooth.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] enosh816:
super fast

Great work mathkid. You are defenitly someone who takes pride in what he does. I use google earth to check the phone speed and this kernel is super fast.

when I pan around in google earth the stuff resis in immediatly.

.....even underclocked WOW!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] onigiri1692:
It has been a while since I have posted in your thread but just wanted to stop by and thank you for your continued hard work...thanks mathkid, for the best ICS kernel out there!

btw you have a leet amount of thanks, congrats ;)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Thanks for all the support guys :)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] warrior420:
You deserve it.

BTW, does this kernel support CM9?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] warrior420:
Thanks for the reply.

I'd like to use CFS with CM9, too. Do you think that be a problem?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Nope
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] warrior420:
Awesome thanks for the replys, I just got the Nexus S today, been on the Epic 4G for a year now, and love the Voodooness.

Keep up the good work.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
Using it now. Good to go.

°•neXus S4G•°
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
It depends on your phone. If your phone likes it, it will work on just about any ROM.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Yep! Welcome to the Nexus s!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Shadow Death:
I decided to test out the 4.0.4 from on the forums. With this kernel.... holy crap its snappy. :D

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Shadow Death:
Truth be told I started using your kernels back in the GB days. I tried the others and some offered nice features and others had stuff hidden in them that I didn't like. These Matr1x kernels are by far the best I've tried yet. Keep up the good work. :D
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
What is the intellidemand governor?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kyouko:
v16.0 bfs

Everything is running super smooth here :D no hiccups or anything.

Question tho:

for the kernel number I noticed it said #15. I know it flashed because I have the intellidemand governor now.

I'm just curious as to whether that number usually changes each build to match the v#. I never noticed it before this morning :p
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Yep that's the build number..

Cfs v16.0 is build #14 and I built bfs right after so it is 15...

Don't worry you're good to go ;)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] treyweez11:
Hey mathkid, i love your work bro, but could you tell me the difference between deep idle and CPU idle? I love deep idle and use nstools to control it. Is there a performance difference? And is cpuidle configurable in nstools?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] vinnypel2ella:
Wow 16.0 is butter smooth! Using intellidemand thanks mk!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] mushupork:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=intellidemand+governor

In first cluster of results: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] treezy26:
Every time I flash this kernel I get constant reboots and my phone doesn't work. Have to pull battery and flash a different kernel. Anyone know why?

idk how I got here...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Rem3Dy:
Honestly its probably user error
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] jin5:
quick question i previously was on ics but decided to try a gingerbread kang rom .

will this kernal work with gingerbread or is it ONLY for ICS?

thanks (i dind't see this on the faq)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] treezy26:
Honestly I don't think it is...

idk how I got here...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
Hmm... Went to bed at 2am with 40% battery. Turned off data, wifi, gps and basically everything but phone. Woke up 8 hours later and my battery was completely drained and phone was off.

Put in a fully charged battery. 4 hours later and phone is at 30% with only 30 minutes screen on. I was getting 22 hours + with 4-5.5 hours on screen time. The only differences is the kernel. My settings remained unchanged except for deep idle which has been removed.

I haven't given up yet. I will try a few more setting and see if I can't figure this out...

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kevincwelch:
I think of a few things when a kernel doesn't work. So, I'm sure you've tried some of these things (if not all of them), but to lay out what I would do...

1. Try the CFS (or BFS) version of the kernel (whatever you weren't using)

2. Download the files again -- did you get a bad zip?

3. Wipe dalvik cache x3

4. Use reset_nstools.zip and/or a kernel cleaner (search the forums here)

5. reflash an earlier version of Matr1x

6. Flash another kernel altogether (GLaDOS, Eugene, Steve's)

If you've tried all these, then you can either reflash the ROM or flash a new ROM to see if that was the issue.

There is always the possibility that there is something about your phone that just doesn't pair up with the kernel.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] wctom:
That's weird. I installed v16, and left everything on last night.After 8 hours or so of standby, the phone went from 96 to 88%.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kevincwelch:
Curious: what are your settings? BFS or CFS?

I think I'm noticing some increased battery drain on 16, but I'm coming from 14.5 and from a BFS version to a CFS version. Hard to make the comparison, but I can say that I haven't been using deep idle for some time now, as I didn't really use it that often.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
Thanks for helping me out.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
Been running bfs since

V14. My settings are min cpu 200 max cpu 800. Lazy gov.

Frozen apps.

Wallet

Sprint hidden menu

Goggle +

Tags

Nfc service

Facebook

Pretty much the same setup i have always run to get good battery. Think i will download and reflash.

Just flash it !!!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] enosh816:
sorry to hear that, hope reflashing works. I am using cfs 16 and i am getting best battery life I ever had. I think becouse this is the first time I was able to use 800 as max cpu an have my phone run as smooth as it is. I am curious as to why you would set min cpu to 200 and not 100. the Phone will go to 200 automatically if it needs it but alot of time is only needs 100. when I check the stats with cpu spy my phone uses 100 the most. I would think that would give better bat life.

anyways I do not think the problem is the kernel. My bat life is rockin.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kevincwelch:
I don't think that's the reason; a lot of people, myself included, have good experience setting min frequency to 200.

Some people have noticed (as I have) that with the lazy governor, previous kernels (still????) experienced the sleep of death when using 100 as the min. It could have been associated with the min frequency options for lazy, but setting the min freq to 200 seemed to help most people prevent the SoD.

---------- Post added at 03:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:48 PM ----------

Agreed: you've always had a stable setup with Matr1x. Seems like an oddball occurrence for you.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Read the FAQ??
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Mes3:
Anyone notice the battery stat is still a little messed up? I was charging and had 86% battery. Unplugged the phone and the stat read 100% charged. Plugged back in, read 100%. Restart the phone while still plugged in, reads 86%.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Nope no issues like that lmao
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] enosh816:
What is sleep of death? I ask becouse I recently switched to lavy gov.

I might be talking out my butt, but I think I read somewhere that cpuidle needs cpu at 100 to allow the phone to idle when not in use. I dont know for sure, just trying to help skunk troubleshoot seing as the kernel switched from deep idle to cpuidle
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
I have always downloaded to my computer and transferred to my phone using the USB cable. This time I was on the road and downloaded it directly to my phone using 3g. While it loaded and runs buttery smooth. I can't help but think something gut borked up in the process. I've already re downloaded and reflashed the kernel. Will test this through a couple more batteries and see if there is a difference.

Just flash it !!!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
I have never really read much on cpuidle so that may indeed be true. I have never had the sleep of death before but had read about it. This is the reason I have always set the min to 200.

I have changed my setting to 100 just in case cpuidle does require a min setting of 100.

I have been running matr1x for almost as long as I've been rooting and my phone has always run the best on mk's kernel's. So I have a difficult time believing it's the kernel and not something I did or some setting I messed up.

Just flash it !!!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] bnitty:
I'm the exact opposite. I always dl from my phone & immediately flash when it dls w/o any issues

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] the1dynasty:
been running 16.0 since yesterday... and while i miss deepidle, i think it was causing my freezes while streaming pandora music... i also never set low to 200... left it at 100... also running intelidemand and it seems similar to "wheatley" gov... liking it so far!!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Cool :D
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] the1dynasty:
btw, battery life is over 9hrs with about 2hr20min of screen on time and 42% left... i find that most battery drain comes from leaving data turned on even when not in use...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Ok, finally have a free few hours, clearing some room, made a nandroid of that 4.0.4 setup that I got the 1 day 6 hours with 4 hours screen on time (which hasn't stayed that good), charging battery and flashing v16....MathKid here I come....finally! Sorry I have been tied up this weekend
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] toddlmr:
Flashed kernel on AOKP milestone 3 yesterday. S

Here is a screen shot of today! Dang...
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kevincwelch:
This might be of some interest to you then.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Interesting read :D
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Mes3:
Anyone else having slow USB transfer speeds? I'm getting about 188kbps while booted, but in recovery I get close to a 1MB.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
SkunkApe, I think you are on to something freezing Tags, Wallet and NFC as well. I have been leaving those alone but deleting Google+ and Maps and getting decent results but freezing those others has made a noticeable difference! Thanks for some quality advice!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
No problem that's why we visit these forums. We all learn and benefit from the experiences of others.

As for my battery life on v16. Seems that I owe MK an apology. I should have done some troubleshooting before posting my poor battery life on v16. After re downloading v16 and reflashing it. My battery life has been just is good or better than before.

Open mouth and insert foot.... :eek:

Just flash it !!!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
MK... AWESOME JOB on v16. I never should have doubted it. Should have troubleshot the install BEFORE posting my results!

Lesson learned!!!

Just flash it !!!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] obsanity:
Just installed 16 cfs. Will report later.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Shadow Death:
Been running 16 bfs since its release with sensei's 4.0.4 from ans so far so great. I've got to figure out the issue with the battery life but its android. I expect this kind of thing. Its just like programming or shell scripting, there are always kinks to work out.

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] mattallica76:
Same here, but it's been like that on every ICS setup I've had on my phone. I'm pretty sure it's not just this kernel.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] zyrtek69:
Have u tried using prop modder to do the SD card speed hack?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] mattallica76:
No I haven't. Wasn't aware of it. Does it actually help with speeds while the card is mounted USB storage?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] vng10:
just a noob question what is meant by freezing an app?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] bnitty:
it's a feature in Titanium Backup

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Skunk Ape1:
It it's a feature in Titanium Backup but it's available only in the pro (paid for) version. What it does is freeze the service or app so that it doesn't run. If you need the service that is frozen, you can just go into titanium and unfreeze (defrost) it. When your done go back and freeze it again.

Just flash it !!!