yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II General] khartaras:
Hi there.

If you're new to Android, how about you actually figure out the OS before you go ***** in the forums to developers?

People seem to think that XDA is a place to go get updates for their phone, and then complain about how it has problems.

It isn't. Developers don't owe you squat. They put out what they WANT to put out. XDA is a development forum, made by developers for developers. If you don't know what you're doing, don't do it.

Also, people tend to ***** about problems that they caused themselves. For example, I see people complaining in kernel threads about how they undervolted their phone by -75mv in SetCPU and then complain about how they got a freeze or a SoD and proceed to ask the developer to "fix kernal pl0x".

If you mess with system settings, take a second to think that what you're doing *might* be causing problems.

If you DO have a legitimate problem, take a second to think that someone else might have the problem. Search the thread and check if someone else has the same problem. One thing that is somewhat recurring is people saying "herp I'm too lazy to search 5 pages in the thread". If you're too lazy to click your mouse a few times, kindly consider driving off a cliff.

Also, fun fact, did you know that every time you ***** about battery life a baby seal drowns? True story.

Let your battery go through 2 charge cycles, check for wakelocks on your phone with BetterBatteryStats. If all else fails, consider charging your phone overnight. It's not like you live in an Amazonian forest with no power and need your smartphone to last for a month without charging. Go buy an old Nokia if you need your battery to last long.

Here's another thought: try to make your post even remotely readable. Use proper English, it helps us actually understand whatever you're trying to say.

Spare us all headaches and use your common sense.

Here's some more reading material: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19643797&postcount=5298

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leech_(computing)
[Galaxy S II General] marcadam:
Good point well made.
[Galaxy S II General] haghdk:
Well said - although I might have said in more gentle terms :-) But there is no doubt whatsoever that any settings, ROM flashing, kernel flashing etc. is at the users own risk and no developer can be held responsible for any damage!

Isn't it possible somehow to make a checklist for new users that are important before they mess around? As they are new we got to help them in order to avoid the "stupid" questions.
[Galaxy S II General] tfn:
Agree with you that XDA is a Developers forum

But on a side note I am sure Devs like that their work is appreciated and in turn I am sure it motivates them to continue working towards better roms and stuff.

I have seen most Devs on XDA take it as creative criticism and always try to get work arounds preety quickly which is think is super brilliant.

You can't stop people *****ing around its each person's nature and I guess we can just ignore them and carry on with the good things that XDA has to offer us.

Besides N00bs will be Noobs - I still am ;) and grateful for XDA Dev's and Members for their Support

Still a Good Point made...
[Galaxy S II General] Logi_Ca1:
While I agree with most points made, I should also point out the obvious point that without users there's no need for developers. I'm sure the developers would like people to make use of their work.

Also, while searching in theory is nice, sometimes it doesn't work. A problem can be described in many ways. I fully support that users should search before asking, but don't be too hard on people who ask. Some may have searched and failed to find relevant answers.
[Galaxy S II General] androidkid311:
Totally agree. But with android selling like wild fire the noob intake will increase like crazy. Call it pure laziness to be honest lol.
[Galaxy S II General] s2d4:
lol.... looks like you really know how this site started..
[Galaxy S II General] jonny68:
As i said on a previous thread temporary bannings need to start being issued should people come on and start asking questions which have been answered dozens of times before, i don't know if it's possible in the registration process so newbies can be informed that they need to use the search function first and foremost for any questions where they will most likely find the answer to their questions and only if they cant may then then start a thread where they will most likely get plenty of assistance,when i first joined it was nowhere near as bad as it is now, it's quite painful coming on here sometimes and looking at the same old questions day in,day out.
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
@OP- Read this before you spread your smart advices to others.

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum
[Galaxy S II General] jonny68:
I also may add when i first joined or rather a few weeks before i registered i done a bit of reading on XDA to try and familiar myself with some of the topics and jargon used as i didn't really have a clue about anything like this, but back to my original point, use the search function and chances are it will bring up something that your looking for at this stage i cant think of anything that hasn't been covered on here with regard to the SGSII.
[Galaxy S II General] khartaras:
You see, forums are made to discuss specific things. This particular forum was made to discuss development for Windows Mobile and Android. Therefore, we should keep discussion specific to development. And I'm pretty sure development talk isn't "FIX KERNAL PL0X BATTERY DRAINZZ!".

But then again, what do I know.
[Galaxy S II General] Robafet:
Maybe a little aggressive, especially to new members, I understand the point being made, but I like many others have come here to ask for advice and share my finding with other like minded android users, some of the advice I've found most useful has been from other new members with similar issues and questions. Be careful not to frighten new folks off. I've seen threads like this destroy forums in the past. It's all about the wording, and coming across friendly, but allowing folks to understand how the forum works. From what I've read, there are plenty of warning on the rooting and firmware threads, so users have been warned before they try anything vaguely risky. There will always be those who don't heed the advice, but those folks ain't likely to read this thread. Anyhoots peace to all, as this a great place.
[Galaxy S II General] Seifer1975:
so unfriendly. everybody started off as noobs, including developers.
[Galaxy S II General] khartaras:
I'm not bashing noobs, I'm telling them to stop being idiots.
[Galaxy S II General] odevans:
I agree with the op.

Each time I have come accross a problem, it has been remedied by returning to the developer's thread to follow the instructions properly, along with taking on board what tips fellow members have said in the assosiated thread.

If I can figure that much out -which isn't rocket science- then I am sure that other should be able to. If only we lived in 'should land'.
[Galaxy S II General] mudferret:
At this point I'm glad that we still have developers here. I couldn't develop my way out of a hostage situation, but am willing to:

Follow the instructions,

Search if I have a problem,

Verify that I did indeed follow the instructions,

Provide a detailed description of problem if I can't rectify,

Present the developer with any info they may need to diagnose (logs, etc...),

Respect the distinction between Q&A and development,

When it doubt watch the video again, you're a noob f-stick and

so am I

,

Don't piss and moan when I have an issue, I elected to not have a stock phone, nobody held a gun to my head, but if you piss and moan it makes me want to hold a Kalashnikov to yours: search, contribute, learn to troubleshoot.

The Me Generation, need I say more?
[Galaxy S II General] SirCanealot:
I've been sickened keeping up with the siriya thread at the amount of people asking dumb questions too. It doesn't seem to be getting any better.

I work retail and I barely barely have enough free time or energy to keep up with playing with my galaxy s. I have no idea how these developers even do it.

People need to learn some respect for these amazing guys. But I guess the amount of noobs will only ever increase. So I guess the devs will need to adapt.

Anyway, one reason I'm posting this is because it's my 10th post and this allows me to go and post my thanks in the syriya thread! :p
[Galaxy S II General] zelendel:
Well that's one of the things. Developers don't do it just for people to use it. They do it for learning, testing, and fun. There were custom roms for smartphones when only other developers used it. Did that stop them? Nope we got great things like Cookies Hometab and MaxSense. Everytime I hear "without users their would be no developers" I just have to sit back and say "really what do you think we have been doing on XDA for years before the average user even knew what a smartphone was?"
[Galaxy S II General] bakedecake:
There is a lot of pointless stuff posted on xda now, often by people who show no respect for the fact that everything here is free of charge. The price of free is that you do a little legwork & read the threads before posting crap like "help i bricked my phone" or "why don't you take the softkeys off the ics gui" which must have been asked 3000 times, when will you release it, which is the best rom? etc.

The admins asked for suggestions last year on how to manage the influx of new members. I didn't suggest anything so I now reap what I sowed. I do have some suggestions now though; let the devs, admins and people with something to download start new threads for free and make the people starting helpdesk or spammy type threads pay, use a keyword or keyphrase blocklist to stop people who can't be bothered to read or who want to ask unreasonable questions from clogging up the threads.

Xda now has adverts so obviously the more the merrier for revenue but if the target is quantity over quality the mods shouldn't complain when they go and clean all the spam out of threads, instead they should just say thanks for your spam please call again soon.

So what is the aim, quality or quantity?
[Galaxy S II General] byobodybag:
umadbro?!?!?! :P
[Galaxy S II General] s2d4:
Once again, I call for noob/ungrateful/need to learn to search/too inbred buttons. Unfortunately, there are more n00bs to click the button than the guys that actually follow the rules

Anyone with RD/MOD status or more thanks than their post counts will not have the noob button available to push as option.

Anyone with thousands of posts a month can not push a noob button. and anyone with warnings/infractions shall be the same.

Anyone will less than two years can not click n00b.. but I've seen n00bs that dates back to 2005.

People that are sensitive little daisies, becomes over defensive and belligerent, just ban them as per forum rules.
[Galaxy S II General] shr33kant:
Here's my two pence.. I totally agree with op. But i don't think noobs read forum rules or even know how to use the search function properly. Perhaps a guide for noobs thread could be written? Simple crap like how to search, a small review for the roms/kernel people have tried (added to op as necessary), what is a kernel?, how do I root/unroot? (and why should I?), what is Cwm?, methods of backing up, guide to rom installation (wipe only! Causes less mess!), that's about all i can think of right now. Maybe a section on "when should I post in the development thread" (to which the answer is "when it doesn't end in a question mark, because you should have read at least the last 10 pages before you post. Yes. 10."

Also a rule stating thanks mist be given in the form of clicking "thanks button".

Bugger it. I might even write it myself. Oh! Maybe make it so you need more than 10 posts to post in development forums?

Sent from inside a black hole.
[Galaxy S II General] Kailkti:
Well if they don't read the rules, why are they going to read a forum guide? Which is the ame thing as rules, but a different name?
[Galaxy S II General] trahzebuck:
Well I'm a noob and I'm not. In a former life I was a programmer for languages you might never heard of. :D Cobol and so.

Today I'm an enthusiastic user - still understanding scripts, sources an so son.

So maybe I can understand both sides.

nevertheless i agree 100% with the op!

A noob should be able to read forum rules, guides an so on. i myself got a lot of help on XDA - just through reading!

So if all newcomers, noobs and all people with questions would just use the search function and read, you dev's would have much more time to do your real job.

so this is my first wish for xmas. :D

Cheers
[Galaxy S II General] 666fff:
It's forumception

:eek:
[Galaxy S II General] rudolf895:
" If you're too lazy to click your mouse a few times, kindly consider driving off a cliff.

Also, fun fact, did you know that every time you ***** about battery life a baby seal drowns? True story."

LOL! Awesome post man :D
[Galaxy S II General] Not Human:
A few months ago I bought my first smartphone, the Galaxy S2 of course. Since then I was able to do all kinds of awesome things with it thanks to XDA.

I mainly signed up so I could thank Lite'Pro for his fine work on Lite'ning Rom, and shame all the people who couldn't skim through the thread to find answers to questions that are asked every 1-5 pages. It's sad, I think those rude, unappreciative, lazy, demanding bastards might be the reason why he stopped updating it :( I can't blame him if it is the reason.

If you're NOT a noob to the internet, and life in general, then you wont be a noob just because you're new to XDA. PERIOD.

Well that's good, because I've meaning to complain to our development community about the lack of animal porn textures in their ROMS, and can u plz tell me how to get rid of the yellow triangle on mah bewt screen?
[Galaxy S II General] :
You're not alone. Re: searching, one wildcard is English, I assuming it can be hard for a person whose primary, or even secondary, language is not English. It can be hard to search if you don't know the appropriate keywords.

For the rest, you're right, they be lazy.

Sent from my MicroTAC 9800X using speech to fax modem
[Galaxy S II General] manmikey:
tut tut another unnecessary thread, why don't you experts use the search function and do some research before starting a new one, there are already many noob bashing threads you could have posted on ;-)
[Galaxy S II General] :
The ironing is delish.

Sent from my MicroTAC 9800X using speech to fax modem
[Galaxy S II General] khartaras:
Perfect example of an idiot. Small wonder he can actually manage to type on a computer.
[Galaxy S II General] robotapocalypse:
Don't get all butt hurt that someone doesn't agree with you. Relax. No one really cares.
[Galaxy S II General] rauschkugl:
there are more than enough threads like these where you can find guides about how to do a backup, how to install a custom rom or kernel and on how to root a device. these people just don't read them. if i want to know what cwm is i go to cwm thread and read it. there's no need for another thread. and you already need more than 10 posts to be able to write in developement section as far as i know. but there are people that don't know anything after 200 posts and still write crap and on the other side there are people that are already experienced when they sign up because they come from other forums or they are developers.
[Galaxy S II General] manmikey:
Wow straight in with personal insults? you didn't understand the irony in my reply to your post did you?

To spell it out....you complain about noob posts that have no value to the forum or have been raised and answered before which clutter the forum (which is a valid point).....then you do exactly the same yourself

That's amusing
[Galaxy S II General] Kailkti:
I'm sorry but this is getting into a flaming contest. Whether you feel hurt or not, or simply completely disagree, factually insultive or derrogatory or just simply derrogatory terms are not needed. Please lets just refrain from such.

On another note though i do agree with you, this thread really isn't needed, it is really going no where. "Noobs" won't read it, nor is there any real discussion to be held for this. Unless you turn this into an idea thread for people to inceptualize ways to reduce the generation of useless posts/threads/etc, then I don't think there is any room for discussion. The general idea is that noobs don't read, end of story eh?
[Galaxy S II General] zelendel:
Agreed

Thread closed
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] neil.richard:
So...here's the news ..- "CM7.2 has been.ported to galaxy ace and mini...is there a dev who can port it to Galaxy fit!...below are the links:

Link (Ace)- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1360889

Link (Mini) - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1344440

if u feel this was usefull push the thanx button! ;)

galaxy fit + CM7.1 (2.3.7) + 801Mhz
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] aya.yaya:
Cm7.2 for mini just has released by Mr squadzone tonight

I hope him or anyone port this cusrom for fit too..

Sorry about my englsh

:D
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Deshabilitado:
sounds good, is this one free of bugs?
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] varun.katoch:
mods plzz port it for fit tooo....thnxx in advance ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] Sachin93:
Me too.Id like to see a stable and latest version of cm for fit. Coz cm rocks!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] riddz17:
yahh bring it on.. GO GO GO CM 7.2 :)
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] rafeeq02:
i m also waiting for the stable cm for fit ,, using creeds now ,, but i love cm's screen unlock
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
one of my processes stop working and cannot download things on my phone HELP
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ff7fan4eva:
Are 3 posts in 2 different sections really necessary for a question that could be solved with a simple re-flash to the latest firmware?

Anyway,

Root, if you haven't look here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1312859

Then get Root Explorer or a file manager with root permissions

then look in /system/app/ and see if you have DownloadProvider.apk and DownloadProviderUI.apk if you haven't then i'll send them to you that might solve your problem, if it doesn't then you'll have to re-flash the firmware, or someone else might know what to do
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
got a bit carried away sorry about that!

now the files that you are talking about i have the following

downloadprovider.bfz

downloadprovider.bfzo

downloadproviderui.bfz

downloadproviderui.bfzo

non of them are the apk files think your going to have to send them over mate
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ff7fan4eva:
In system/app/ are you sure, i've never heard of .bfz or .bfzo, only .apk is in system/app

Anyway try pushing these to system/app changing the permissions to -rw-r--r--

and then rebooting the phone, another thing you could have done is download maxthon browser which handles downloads within the app and doesn't bother with the system downloader
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
It worked cheers!!

p.s I just realised your from Manchester your not a city fan are you lol
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jacklebott:
As long as you have a file explorer, you don't need "DownloadProviderUi.apk" though
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ff7fan4eva:
No man united :P
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
Guys I just noticed that I can dl things from the browser but i cant from the market it says your item is downloadimg the item appears for a second then disappears any suggestions?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
Go to settings, applications, manage applications. Under all, find the download manager and market, clear the cache/data for both and see if that works.

Sent from Silent Earth 3
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
nah it didnt work but if i flash my firmware using this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1351299 will it work?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
RED ARMY :D
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
That is the correct tool, yes. You need an ftf firmware file to use with it though.

Also, blue rules! Suck it red.

Sent from Silent Earth 3
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
can you post a link of the ftf firmware files please i cba trolling anymore currently on firmware 2.3.3 but if i update it should it resolve the problem im having and will i be able to root that firmware?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
Nordic 2.3.4 firmware. There should be an OTA update you can do right away after flashing.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8XHT14MR

Sent from Silent Earth 3
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
i have a feeling that im going to mess this up and its getting depressing that i cant dl anything from the market
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1230950

Read that thread. More specifically, the posts where I explain the flashing. Use the nordic firmware in my previous post though, cause the one in that thread is outdated. The flashtool and flashing method are still the same.

As long as you take the time to read instructions, there is nothing to worry about.

Sent from Silent Earth 3
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
cheers for that
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
yeah managed to flash it everythings back to normal BUT its gone to 2.3.2 lol gotta do a update i suppose! but i dont wana update it to 2.3.4 from what i heard psxperia dont work
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ff7fan4eva:
PSXperia is working now with the version 2 beta, check in the themes and apps section
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harmless_noob:
allow it i cba anymore i just flashed it back to 2.3.3 i give up until next time
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] notepad++:
:) ICS Passion v1 {4.0.1} Alpha for Vibrant
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VeryCoolAlan:
No

AOSP doesn't

Only touchwiz
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jitin02:
hi guyz

as stated in the subject i unlocked my htc explorer(pico) bootloader from htcdev.com but i want help reg. how i can now root it .

please guyz any help/suggestion highly appreciated

EDIT: ROOTED WITH HELP OF XDA.CN
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bhupatib:
It's great that 2.3.5 root is available.

BTW A310E is not listed in HTCDev as a supported device, is there a workaround for official S-Off? Can you share the XDA.CN process?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jitin02:
Though this device is not listed in HTCdev.com but it is working on this device. It don't give s off for any device but just unlock boot loader so that u can flash custom recovery

Xda.can has custom recovery for a310 , its based on gem just flashed that a and manually pushed such and stuff and chmod them .

I can shared the whole as guide if someone need it . No problem in that
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Suyash Srivastava:
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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Suyash Srivastava:
Can anyone plzzzz help me regarding how to unroot my htc explorer and put back the original stock recovery??? plzz tell me the procedure and also a link to the files required. It would be a great help. plzz.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Suyash Srivastava:
Can anyone get me an official rom update or even the original stock recovery.img file for htc explorer/pico......I havent installed any custom rom and still have my original htc explorer rom......I have just installed the clockworkmod recovery and I need to get it UNINSTALLED but for that it requires me to have an official update for htc explorer or the original stock recovery.img itself.....so plzzz if anyone has the required files or any other solution for the problem plzzz help me....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SGA-Sean:
2.3.5 root isn't available
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Suyash Srivastava:
It is....check the previous thread and I want to unroot which requires the official stock recovey.img for htc explorer/pico....