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[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cmunho:
Is there a preferred way to get in touch with you for more testing?

I currently have both the Flyer and Jetstream. Pen input works on both with pressure sensitivity.

I can't seem to get zooming to work at all.

I have a number of suggestions as well. I had actually been thinking about forking your code to make adjustments :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] aostl:
My pleasure. Thanks for developing a cool app
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Volker1:
Press the 4-diagonal-arrows icon. Then you can pinch-to-zoom, at least it *should* work ;-)

I do check up on XDA threads; or PM me if you want...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AF241:
Hi! This method works well. But when I double tap, it zooms just a tiny bit. About 5% is my guess.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Volker1:
Double tap switches between fill screen width and fit everything on screen. If your virtual paper is almost the same as the screen, then the change can be very small. Try e.g. A4 paper and rotate the tablet into landscape, then you'll see a huge change.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AF241:
Got it. This app is perfect. Just one suggestion- Please enable pinch to zoom in quill/pencil modes so that we can zoom in to write with 2 fingers and drag with one finger. This allows writing to be more neat. at the moment I have to switch between quill and drag mode to and fro.

:: I have also noticed, while the htc note app recognises only 2 pressure levels, quill registers at least 4 different pressure levels.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
I applaud the developer for getting the pen response implemented very well. I guess I was expecting more features with all the excitement, but it does what it says well. Not a replacement for the HTC notes app, but a nice little handwritten sticky note app.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Volker1:
Your palm will often trigger single-finger touch events, so we can't use those in the fountain pen / pencil mode.

Its intentional that the 2-finger move gesture while writing doesn't change the zoom - otherwise it is hard to fill a whole page with evenly sized handwriting.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AF241:
I understand but please give thoughts on enabling an option to enable 2 finger pan and zoom.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cmunho:
pm/email sent.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mafiaboy01:
Great app, would he nice to have the eraser button work on the pen but other than that this is awsome
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ERamseth:
Just wanted to say that quill is a great app.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redzee:
Is this working with the View. The market says not compatible and when I try to install the apk I get a Parse Error.

:(
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
i think it works on HC version, isn't?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kcchen:
I got the same error with the stock gingerbread, you need HC. I still prefer the stock Notes app. Syncing to evernote is brilliant.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jorge_culv:
Pen input mode?

There are 3 pen input options in v8.1, I tried all 3 but could only get my scribe stylus writing to appear when the "any touch event writes on screen, no gestures" mode is active. This is not so handy because I lose out on the gestures. Anyone get their scribe to work in the other modes? Seems like it should recognize the scribe in all modes!

I'm on wifi-only Flyer with latest HC release.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ERamseth:
mine works fine in all 3 modes
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jorge_culv:
Maybe a difference with the software or hardware...are you on View or Wifi Flyer? HTC pushed Honeycomb update or did you install a custom/Globatron ROM?

Thanks...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ERamseth:
wifi flyer with root, honeycomb through globotron's method.

I did just notice that I'm on 8.0, not 8.1... I'll try 8.1 out when I get the chance.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jorge_culv:
Thanks for checking, I removed then reinstalled each version down to 7.2, same result. Also hard reboot, installed 8.0, another hard reboot, still the same behavior for me...something funny's going on in my tab...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ERamseth:
Just tried 8.1. Works fine.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] TSGM:
This is a great little program, and to be honest, it's the kind of thing you expect from the HTC Notes. I do have one suggestion to the developer, and I think it would really help: the fountain pen needs a more realistic stroke.

I think what you should aspire for is a pen stroke which resembles the calligraphy brush of the Sketchpad Mobile app. This means that the thickness of the line depends on the direction for which the stroke is applied. A fountain pen, for example, is usually held so that the angle of the nib is tilted to the horizontal of the page. A downstroke at an angle of +45 degrees to the horizontal would then differ from a stroke at an angle of -45 degrees.

The HTC scribe calligraphy brush emulates this to a certain extent (but nowhere near as good as the Sketchpad).

I think a true fountain pen/calligraphic brush would be a big improvement. It makes writing more attractive, because you have a more natural mix of thin and thick lines depending on the stroke.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
well, I just followed globatron's way to HC today, and I just find out sketchbook pro won't work, and quill, fresco I cannot find them on market. So I try sketchbook mobile with no pressure sensitivity....

It is totally not getting close to my expectation. Really disapoint.

Maybe I just too expect it could be my digital sketchbook :( ....

too bad :(
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kcchen:
Sketchbook pro works on my Flyer with Globatron's HC. What doesn't work?

Pressure sensitivity needs to be enabled in the preferences... Which is unintuitive under the "i" option.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] tommyz2kool:
This is a great app. I was going to give up on my view because the htc note app is crap. Now I can actually use this thing for note taking!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
just like this :xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1359140

hi,my problem is like that, but I had already turn the option as what you say.

I cannot understand what's going on....

if we are in.the same version, will it possible caused by the apk file?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
Beside, I check it on android market, I find it show not support to my flyer's version....why???
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lekhwani:
Get it from here.

code.google.com/p/android-quill/downloads/list
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kcchen:
To each there own.

I actually think the Notes app is still more useful than Quill because:

- Automatic Evernote Sync - I like being able to review my notes and manipulating on my laptop and iPad.

- Meeting sound recording - works great on the tablet, a little less useful on Evernote

- Insert pictures - Great for scrapbooking and seminars to capture presentation slides.

The only thing I find useful about Quill is the resizing of the page.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
THanks!!

but anyone who has used sketchbook pro with pessure sensitivity work fine??

I have tried to use sketchbook pro v1 but not work, is that need to be v2??

in Taiwan we still cannot to buy it...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lpasq:
I am with you in regards to Notes' full integration with the OS makes it more convenient and a complete noting experience based on my needs at least.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] tommyz2kool:
Those features are all great, but for actually writing notes quill is superior. Just the palm rejection alone makes it better.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kcchen:
Makes sense to me... I never had a problem with the placement of my palm causing problems on the Flyer. Different story with the iPad. The n-trig system should negate the issue with the palm touching the screen. I've also learned tricks to workaround over the past few months of use.

Also noticed that you can sync to Evernote... Not automatic but still useful.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] devator22:
The notes app rejects palm placement, though I actually had trouble testing it since I never actually rest my hand on the screen. The trick is you have to put the pen on the screen, then it will reject touch input. The only thing I think it is missing is the ability to change the paper type, I'd like a more notebook feel.

My question is, does the paid app on the market offer additional features over the free on on code? I downloaded the free one but it seems like it is missing some features, like changing paper type, unless I am missing something.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] plebianJay:
Yes, Sketchbook Pro v2 works well with pressure sensitivity. It's not like drawing on a cintiq, but it works pretty well and had decent palm rejection as well.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Bradart:
Where do you get v2? My market has 1.3
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
I wonder too.....
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] plebianJay:
You have to be running HC. Then it should show up. Also, it's Sketchbook Pro. Sketchbook mobile doesn't support the stylus. Latest version of mobile is 3.1
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] S.C Frecars:
oooops...

since the payment on android market has been forbidden from my country, I have no right to pay for it...good game ,boy..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
Quill does something that NO OTHER note taking app has done for N-Trig - Made my notes look as good as Wacom on a Tablet PC!

I do have one problem: on my globatron Flyer, when in pen or pencil mode, I cannot scroll the screen with two fingers. I always have to switch to teh double arrow sizing screen, which is a drag since I tend to write long notes and need to scroll upward constantly. The option is checked in teh program settings (Move gesture while writing) so I'm not sure where to look next.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] TSGM:
The developer has commented that pinch zoom cannot really be implemented because it would clash with the current palm rejection (in fact I think that currently, in pen mode, everything is rejected.)

I do have a suggestion for developer: a convenient zooming system would be to have a button, which when pressed, allows the user to draw a rectangular region where the screen would then zoom in. Another button for zooming out (or simply double tapping). This would make very easy to zoom in and out of intended writing zones.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Volker1:
As you said, the "move gesture while writing" option must be checked in the preferences.

The move gesture is only triggered if the two touch points are more than half the screen size apart. Testing has shown that it will be triggered accidentally by your palm otherwise...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
Hello,

Any of you tested Quill v8.2 under GB with Flyer? Does it work with GB? If so, I may reconsider rolling back to GB.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] aostl:
Haven't tried myself but no. It doesn't. Honeycomb supports that type of stylus everywhere and gingerbread does not.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] TSGM:
I had another nice session with Quill, so while it's still fresh in my mind, I hope I can make some further suggestions to the developer:

Previous and next page: I think these are fairly important shortcuts, and they deserve their own menu items. When I write, I don't change the pen or pencil width very often. What I do use often is: eraser, pinch-zoom, previous/next page. Thus, the need for these new buttons.

Notebook navigation: We need a way to quickly access different pages from a notebook, without pressing back and going to the overview. A simple button at the top, which pops up a menu showing "page 1, page 2, ..." will be very useful.

Notebook overview: When we see the overview of the pages of the notebook, the pages are listed in reverse order (so the pages go backwards in the order that you created them). Perhaps there should be an option to display notebook pages in ascending and descending order. In any case, I think it's much more natural to see them in the usual order (p. 1, p.2, p.3, etc.)

I think the menu buttons at the top can be made a bit smaller. We're all using our pens for this, so reducing them in size will help keep the maximal amount of space for the sheet of paper. This will also allow you to add some of the buttons I suggested above ;)

Page numbering: a simple page number would help. Perhaps just superimpose the page number on top of the red button.

Double tap zoom: has anybody managed to get this to work? It doesn't seem to work on mine (even with the settings checked). It doesn't seem to zoom in very well and only seems to serve to drag the page a little bit in one direction.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
You can go to app's website and open an issue. The developer is checking and replying quite soon, which is a very nice support for such app.

Quill is the far-best notes application for HTC Flyer. Even better than stock one. Thanks again to the developer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] TSGM:
I just downloaded v8.3 and I must continue to sing praise to the developper for continuing to improve things!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] NinjaMom:
I kinda like that it doesn't auto sync to Evernote... That way some notes can remain a little more private.

I do like the other points you hit on though...

I also would like, if they are possible:

1) to be able to swipe my finger to get a fresh page to write on

2) to have the journal pages show the first page you wrote on first instead of last when you open the journal up.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GMAN1722:
I also wish there was a way to import audio files into quill because at times i find it very useful to have recorded meetings attached with the notes. but I guess I can just use the flyer's recorder to record the meetings and export the notes from quill to the stock notes app then attach the audio and notes together. if I want I can then have this synced with evernote. the only reason I would go through all of this is that quill is so much more superior than the stock notes app.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] TSGM:
Has anybody had any luck using the newest version of Quill with the option to hide the taskbar? I do have root and superuser installed, yet when the relevant option is ticked in Quill, it complains that I don't have root. Generally, you're supposed to get that pop-up which asks for root access...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Volker1:
I haven't tested it on the flyer myself, but it should work.

* is root really working? For example does titanium backup work. Or using the terminal app, type "su".

* Open the superuser app and check that you haven't set it to deny root access to Quill.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] poodledrummond:
I have latest version working fine with hidden taskbar option on rooted leedroid hc.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] balto1:
It's great that this app is available for free. Tested it out, liked it very much and supported the dev on the market by making my first purchase there :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jrenascimento:
this app is better than others that I used. It's just perfect.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] infy79:
It's a great app but I search something like upad in appstore... but without ipad...
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] equi_design:
I absolutely love Quill. It's definitely one of my "must-have" apps on my Flyer. Just updated to 9.2 and it is awesome!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kego:
hidden taskbar is fine but it's a bit tricky when exiting the app, always drops back to notebook.

Still quill is far best note app for HTC Flyer.

Just I'm impatiently waiting for image insertion and select/cut/copy/paste :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] klaberte:
full screen bug

I had a similar experience on my EVO View (the Sprint 4G version of the flyer). The "Cannot go full screen (do you have root?)" pop-up kept coming up, e.g. every 4-5 seconds. Note that I could not get the dialog asking me to allow or deny root. Perhaps it was "behind" the quill page? I don't know.

I toggled the full screen option in Quill a few times. Then, suddenly, it worked. I got the root permission granted popup, and the messages went full screen. One time, the setting seemed to turn itself off. I just re-checked the full screen setting, and it has stuck ever sense.

Seems like a goofy bug. I just tried to replicate, by clearing the permission in SU. However, when I tried to go full screen on Quill, the root dialog promptly came up and has worked fine since.

---------- Post added at 03:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:20 PM ----------

On my Evo View: Quill-settings-Override the detected pen type-Select S-pen-> Force Close. Try to restart Quill->Immediate FC, creating a FC loop. Only way to fix is to clear data for Quill, then import your (hopefully recent) backup.

Of course, I shouldn't have tried to select s-pen, but I get curious, and FC loops are no fun!

Also, what are the Incomplete features ;-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Volker1:
This was already fixed by the time you posted it. I guess you had not updated to v9.4 by then? Sorry for the trouble.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] klaberte:
Orientation?

Is it possible to fix the orientation so that it is not responsive to the accelerometer. Sometimes, when I move my tablet while in Quill, the orientation switches, necessitating me to hold the thing up to get it to go back the way I wanted :-)

I know there are system-level programs to do this, but does it make more sense to have this as a setting within Quill (and apologies if it is there and I am missing it)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ex69:
I just have 'auto-rotate' disabled by default when I am taking notes.

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I am planning on trying this program later on, does anyone know if it integrates with the HTC calendar?

Also can Quill annotate PDF's? or just make notes?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Volker1:
There is no specific setting. Personally, I'm using "Extended controls" so the orientation lock is always just a button press away.

It doesn't integrate with HTC calendar or any other calendar. There is some preliminary support for hand-written calendar entries in Quill but its not finished. Quill is really designed for making notes or sketches.

You can export the pages to PDF, but not annotate existing PDFs.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] toppinglift:
HTC Flyer Moving Page to Page and Screen Format

Hi Volker and HTC Community,

I am glad that I have finally discovered the proper thread to bring these issues up since I have a 7" HTC Flyer and you have developed Quill on a 10" TPT (and the Lenovo forum wouldn't be too interested). First, Volker, you have done a brilliant job with Quill, and after using LectureNotes for a long time, I appreciate the ability of Quill to export multiple PNG pages to Evernote, which makes my notes searchable as long as they are on Evernote (LectureNotes just exports in PDF which can't be searched at this time).

That said, I am perplexed by how HTC users are supposed easily to move from page to page while writing in Quill; move from portrait to landscape; and use tags effectively. I suspect that you have built some capability in Quill, but I it disappears on my 7" screen. Yet, when I look at this forum, I don't see other HTC Flyer or EVO users raising these issues, so it may be just my oversight.

What I see on my end is that when I choose my paper (US Letter or A4 Paper Type) and try to write in Landscape, the paper shrinks and becomes too small to write on, but the "Tags" widget appears and is located next to the Quill icon in the upper tool bar. If I select the red dot, all the menu items appear on the left side except the bi-directional arrows (which allow the pages to easily move forward or backwards)

If I turn the tablet to the Portrait position, the paper re-formats and becomes the proper size to write on, but the "Tags" widget disappears and the bi-directional arrows appear (if the red dot is selected). If I choose "Landscape Screen," the paper becomes too wide to write on in the Landscape position (the writing will go off the normal letter sized page) or too small to write on in the Portrait position.

In LectureNotes, you can can just turn the tablet and the screen re-formats--there is no need to zoom in or out, or move the page around with two fingers. Also, you can move from page to page very easily, the programmer has even made it automatic as you write. Given the screen limitations on the 7" HTC, could you please make it possible for the user to select what tools he or she needs on the top bar. I don't want to select the red dot because that side menu takes up too much room when the tablet is in Portrait. All I would need would be the pen, erase and bi-directional arrow icon (so I can easily move from page to page as I write). Better still would be one continuous flow of paper (like LectureNotes does), so I can move back and forth with a swipe.

Thanks again, Quill is a pleasure to use and I appreciate any help you and the community can give.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Volker1:
Hi toppinglift,

I personally find the volume navigation the most useful (press vol up/down button to switch pages). They are always hardware buttons and let you flip through many pages in an instant. But its not easily discoverable, so I see your point about putting the arrow buttons into the toolbar.

I think your other point boils down to not zooming out if you rotate the screen, that sounds like a good idea.

I did get your email a few days ago, but I didn't have time to reply yet. But I read all email that I get ;-)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] toppinglift:
It's All About the Screen Size

Thanks for the quick reply Volker.

I don't know where the volume buttons are located on your TPT, but on the HTC Flyer, they are along the upper right side of the tablet, and are hard to access and push when the tablet is flat or if you are left-handed. Having the ability to move from page to page on the toolbar at the top of the HTC screen would be very helpful. As I mentioned previously, you could make the bi-directional arrows on the top menu bar optional for those users who don't need it.

Please don't forget, some of your widgets appear inconsistently on the 7" screen. For example "Tags" is useless in Portrait because the widget does not appear anywhere. You can't get quick access to the tagging function or its filters unless you turn the table to Landscape and swipe the tag widget (which for some reason appears only in Landscape). Conversely, the bi-directional arrows widget disappears in Landscape, but appears in Portrait only when the red button is swiped. And the menu accessed by swiping the red button takes up way too much space in Portrait (on a 7" screen). So, if you make the widgets which appear on your top tool bar user selectable AND include "Tags" and the bi-directional arrows, you can make both the 7" and 10" camps happy.

Yup, having it format automatically as you turn the tablet and not have to zoom in an out is almost a necessity in a 7" tablet. We don't have the luxury of screen real estate as you guys with the 10" tablets have. Sometimes I am crunched for space and have to use portrait, other times, I can use Landscape. Sometimes, I have to use both. LectureNotes does this very well, and also has a "continuous roll" of paper, so you can move back an forth between pages with a swipe of the finger. LectureNotes, however does not have the capability to export searchable PNG on Evernote that Quill does.

Sorry about the double messaging. :) I didn't know about this forum before I sent you the email, and I KNOW the Lenovo forum wasn't interested in the questions I had, so I fired off an email. Anyway, I thought that what you may say would be of interest to the HTC community.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] GrandAdmiral:
Wow. I can't believe i had this app all this time and have never used it until last week because I was using the stock Notes app. This is absolutely awesome on the Flyer and I absolutely love it. Great job, Volker.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] aranzou:
Another quick feature request, would it be possible to have a lasso feature? Where a user would draw a circle and it would copy the contents inside of it?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] thewadegeek:
This is a EPIC app, thanks a bunch!!! :) If the dev is still reading this I have one feature idea. Could you add a "auto scroll" so that when I start writing to close to the edge of the tablet it shifts the paper for me? Yeah its just a inconvenience, but it would be nice!! :) Thanks again though!!