yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Android Development] HGhertel1:
What's going on with that RAM usage statistics ?? Every app sticks with 0,00B :(
[Nexus S Android Development] moriz1:
I'm still seeing very rapid battery drain when sitting idle. A quick look at the battery meter suggests that the phone is spending a lot of time being awake, even when it should be idle. Deep idle is on and working.
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
Yeah i di see zeroes on ram usage and much more battery drain. Reverted back to 15.0 solves it.

100% to 35% in just 4 hrs. Screen time only 1:30 hrs. Whats going on?

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] gryrock:
hi, im using 15.5 , and my tethering is not working, try to flash different radio it have same thing. Revert to 15
[Nexus S Android Development] darth7:
Battery drain too fast. On 15.5

Enviado desde mi Ice Cream Nexus Sandwich usando Tapatalk
[Nexus S Android Development] bendirkss:
Does CPU min at 200mhz save more battery than 100. I saw a post about 200 saving more. Something about taking less power to speed up when using the phone. Is this true or BS ?

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Keep an eye on my thread. Comprehensive battery study coming today...

For kernel benchmarks and more, see here: http://goo.gl/mpeHI
[Nexus S Android Development] bruciato:
it's possible to add this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1459304 to the next release of the kernel?:D thanks!
[Nexus S Android Development] defia:
matr1x already has usb otg support build 5
[Nexus S Android Development] spupuz:
sorry for noob question what is the difference from bfs and cfs?
[Nexus S Android Development] clocker66:
v15.5 seems to drain less battery than v15 here... previous versions drained about 6% during night, v15,5 drains only 3%... during day the battery usage is almost the same.

And yes, 100MHz min freq is not recommended ;)

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Cfs is focused on multitasking and better system reliability while bfs can achieve better performances on single tasks eg. Games or benchmark in spite of less stability. However, is plenty of tutorial around there...
[Nexus S Android Development] pilspeda:
After trying v15 and v15.5 and noticing a higher battery drain than with v14.5, I have decided to stick with v14.5
[Nexus S Android Development] armoredkin:
long live 14.5 :D
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Results for v15.5 cfs are up! Check my thread for the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1441905
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Long live 14.5 my ass

This is working just fine and if you can't find settings that work for you its not my problem.
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
I don't care whether 14.5 works fine or not. I will be pushing forward with my releases the way I want and whether they work for you or not I don't care. Just move on or stay with 14.5.

Thanks.
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
I don't want to see any more posts worshipping 14.5
[Nexus S Android Development] pilspeda:
Don't get me wrong, I love the passion and the work you put into your kernel and I will keep testing your new ones.

I just can't get v15 or v15.5 to work fine for me and I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the kernel :D
[Nexus S Android Development] kong:
What are you upset about? It's normal that only particular version of kernel *works best* for some people. After all it depends on the ROM and apps they put on their phones, not to mention the settings in NSTools.

You should be happy they find that older version of Matr1x is still better than newer versions of other kernels :rolleyes:
[Nexus S Android Development] bendirkss:
Don't argue with mathkid. Just accept his posts

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] nodstuff:
To people experiencing battery drain when idle: make sure deep idle is switched off, for 8 hours idle I lost only 2% battery.

This is only my experience from last night, as I couldn't test both deep idle on and off at the same time could someone that left it on confirm for me that they got excessive battery drain when idle.
[Nexus S Android Development] KBanause:
I experienced that downloading the NEW 15.5 zips have much no battery drain any more. MK suspected the 65fps feature to be a drainer so he removed it. Try downloading v15.5 again and test with deep idle enabled. It should be much better now.
[Nexus S Android Development] nodstuff:
I have the new zips, and I was saying all along that 65fps was a battery drainer.

I test the kernels for mk and since I see people saying that they are experiencing high battery drain AFTER the release of the new zips I want to see if anyone can correlate my data and tell me what I suspect that deep idle is in fact the culprit.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Seen my thread today? The Battery stuff?

For kernel benchmarks and more, see here: http://goo.gl/mpeHI
[Nexus S Android Development] y3mita:
I truly hope you were joking. Everyone has a right to express their situations and everyone takes comments according to their own experiences.

White for you may be yellow for others!

M2C
[Nexus S Android Development] HAKA:
Calm down mathkid, we Indians are not made to fight. ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] KBanause:
All I can say is that I have the same battery life with the new 15.5 zips and deep idle enabled as with <=v15 and the same configuration (200/1000 with deep idle enabled and voltages raised by 25mV with SetCPU) and ROM and I have a much better battery life than with the stock kernel.
[Nexus S Android Development] xontax:
Huge Battery drain with 65 fps hack and deepidle=on!

Switching back to 15.0!!
[Nexus S Android Development] nodstuff:
OK that's fair enough but some ppl aren't having better battery life and I am trying to find the problem.

The only way is to try different things.

I tested with deep idle off, got good results, so I'm passing on the method so I can get more information from the other users.

Its the only way to pinpoint the problem.

Why did you raise voltages by 25 if you aren't overclocking?

Stability issues?

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There is no 65fps in these zips. That got removed.

Try turn off deep idle and see how it is.

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Ya I saw, it makes for interesting reading!

I see that deep idle makes no difference to battery drain except maybe when screen off Max freq is on and then it actually increases drain.

Is deep idle not working as it should in ICS???
[Nexus S Android Development] KBanause:
I thought I read somewhere in this thread that I have to raise them when I want to use deep idle. But now that you mention it, I see that it's related to LiveOC.

Trying to use default values....
[Nexus S Android Development] nodstuff:
These are my voltages, they should work for you since you are like myself and don't overclock.

ARM:

100MHZ 900MV

200MHZ 900MV

400MHZ 975MV

800MHZ 1125MV

1000MHZ 1225MV

INT:

100MHZ 925MV

200MHZ 950MV

400MHZ 1000MV

800MHZ 1050MV

1000MHZ 1100MV

I managed to drop arm voltages by a fair bit by only raising int values a tiny bit.

give it a shot.

remember to uncheck set at boot in nstools. safety first! :D
[Nexus S Android Development] KBanause:
I will try these settings (with deep idle disabled). I will report tomorrow how battery life will be.
[Nexus S Android Development] nodstuff:
Cool. these volts are stable for me but they may not be for you. but then again they may. so ya, try em out! :D
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I noticed that, curious isn't it?

For kernel benchmarks and more, see here: http://goo.gl/mpeHI
[Nexus S Android Development] nodstuff:
Yes it is, it may be worth looking in to. When 3.2 kernel is released maybe deep idle should be put out to grass.

What with the new CPU idle code in 3.2 and all that.
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
Easy your heart man...

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] dzerveviktory:
Anyone else lose ability to connect to WiFi after 15.5 flash?

Running CM9 v1.1 and 15.5 cfs

I'll try flashing again tonight, might have been a fluke.

I'll report back later.

thanks~!
[Nexus S Android Development] armoredkin:
errr sorry.. my intention was good. I'm not worshiping 14.5, I'm just saying that 14.5 have more battery life (the long live thing? Seriously..) for my nexus s. Maybe of how i use my device is match with your old kernel. Just to make things clear, 15.5 works great for me but SLIGHTLY (i repeat slightly) less battery life for my nexus s. I never ask you to do patches on your old kernel version or dictate your work. I'm always a big fan of matrix or m4tr1x or whatever you call it. C'mon dude.. its not that i'm complaining your work. You got to get yourself up. Are you on your period? Geez..
[Nexus S Android Development] tchaari:
I am also wondering that CPU idle code in 3.2 is better than deep idle but we should proove it. I'll try them for two or three nights and report back. It won't be as accurate as the tests of bedalus but just a user experience :)
[Nexus S Android Development] armoredkin:
Just becareful, don't post a good benchmark on older version. Or somebody gonna get mad tonight..
[Nexus S Android Development] nodstuff:
Ok you made your point, let it go man, no need to be a **** about it. i'm sure mk was just in a rush this morning when he wrote that so just let it go.
[Nexus S Android Development] moriz1:
I've gone back to version 15, and battery life while idling improved drastically. Now the phone is no longer awake when it shouldn't be.
[Nexus S Android Development] nodstuff:
Did you try 15.5 with deep idle off?

i got 8 hrs for 2% battery last night, wifi on, cell on.

i think deep idle is not saving any battery and in some instances it is draining battery.

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ya tonight i am gonna try deep idle on while i sleep and see how it goes.

i have a feeling it won't be better than 2% for 8 hrs.
[Nexus S Android Development] angiest:
Reflash your kernel. As I recall, that has fixed it for me before.
[Nexus S Android Development] steve.garon:
For those wondering how is the battery with the CPU idle code from 3.2, my kernel has the cpuidle backport. Unfortunately, the battery test one by bedalus was done on cpu governor that where tweaked for speed and consumed more battery than usual. So the result for my kernel done by bedalus are not reflecting what the battery consumption should have been, the result are only valid on that experimental kernel.

Truth be told, I though the kernel 3.2 backport would be more battery efficient but I fail at seeing the actual difference... we will probably never know! :eek:
[Nexus S Android Development] :
It's never going to be the difference between night and day... It's an efficient processor already!

For kernel benchmarks and more, see here: http://goo.gl/mpeHI
[Nexus S Android Development] y3mita:
My experience trying so many kernels is DEEP_IDLE by ezekeel seems more of a problem than a solution. It probably worked under GLADOS at one point but since now-a-days more devs have more mods to its kernels I'm sure it is going to be issues at one point.

Now, when I try eugene373's speedy 7 or steve.garon or any kernel that gives me the option to use DEEP_IDLE I simply choose not to and boy believe me my battery life is superb due to the high use I give my phone.

I'm now using/testing r_data kernel which has the cpu_idle backport from 3.2 and this kernel has powerful battery life!
[Nexus S Android Development] asphantix:
mathkid, a stock voltage patch would be great since I'm too lazy to raise the voltages manually :D
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Haha ok... I'll get one out
[Nexus S Android Development] bendirkss:
Me too! Reflash and reboot. Don't power off. That did it for me

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] tchaari:
Yes steve and bedalus I agree on that but it seems that cpu idle backport has less secondry effects than deep idle :) Maybe it is just a personal impression because Matr1x does not seem to be affected by the reboots problem of Glados and Franco's Kernel...
[Nexus S Android Development] bendirkss:
when killing apps my background flashes. and my green flashing when locking and unlocking is worse than ever :s Running Orca 1 with 15.5
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Read the FAQ...

I'm not having any of the problems you are having. I'm on apex v1.0
[Nexus S Android Development] Harbb:
There seems to be a few misconceptions about deep idle in here. It is NOT deep-sleep. Deep sleep is where your phone sits there and does nothing but receive calls and sms. Deep idle saves power more than the Idle state, but doesn't come close to the deep sleep state. If you look in NSTools you'll find you have very little deep idle time. Divide it by 1000 and that's how many seconds your phone has been in deep idle. If you are playing music in the background, the gps is on and finding location or bluetooth is connected, then you will be getting a high deep idle time which saves more battery than Idle, because deep sleep cannot be used in this state.

Deep idle being enabled or disabled will change nothing if you leave your phone overnight doing nothing.

Anywho, i've upgraded to 15.5 and have

no issues at all

. I've found wheatly is quite a good governor and just trying to get some stable LiveOC voltages now :)

Btw, mk, how do BLX and the 100% battery mod work together exactly? <96 it changes the max charge and >96 it is purely cosmetic?

Edit: that is true for deep idle assuming it is working correctly, of course
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Yep!

Idle, deep idle, and deep sleep are the states
[Nexus S Android Development] Harbb:
They are two different power states. There should be no correlation between them - AFAIK only one out of the several available is used at any given moment. While the phone is in deep sleep it has nothing to do with deep idle, just like when the phone is in deep idle it has nothing to do with idle.

Ezekeels Deep Idle Thread should explain more. Might need two read throughs to get the whole picture together.
[Nexus S Android Development] LibertyMonger:
Just wanted to shout that I haven't had any reviews for quite a while now. All your releases have been super great kid. I am now running codename android 1.2 and it is great also! Not sure which ROM is the best I have only tried 2 and haven't had any problems with either one. KalimochoAz ROM and codename android are both great. Wanted to mention that I usually wipe all and I flash the wipe all zip so it is like a super wipe LOL and that seems to ensure a great ROM and kernel flashing experience! Haha. Thanks a bunch kid absolutely no issues I can notice for a long time now and battery life is just amazing! I was just wondering if you had a great ROM suggestion you think is best? Or which one is going to be the best? Too many for me to keep up with LOL.
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Ty!

As for rom I recommend either gummy or apex
[Nexus S Android Development] :
There's theory and there's practice. Watch the video in my thread.

For kernel benchmarks and more, see here: http://goo.gl/mpeHI
[Nexus S Android Development] defia:
just got two reboots

here's the kmsg file:.rar is the first reboot,.txt is the second
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Dude raise voltages by 25...
[Nexus S Android Development] defia:
what's the stock voltage of matr1x (both arm and int voltage)?the thread searching is unavaliable, i think you can mention this in the op MK :b

in nstools if i deselect use default voltage it shows the stock kernel's stock voltage
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
No...

Deselecting it shows matr1x preset voltages ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] LibertyMonger:
As far as green screen I use this script and it eliminates it or set it in NSTools. It also makes for beautiful colors. I found them here please thank him.

#! /sys/bin/sh

echo 2863311680 >/sys/class/misc/voodoo_color/red_multiplier

echo 3336681600 >/sys/class/misc/voodoo_color/green_multiplier

echo 3925507840 >/sys/class/misc/voodoo_color/blue_multiplier

echo 0 >/sys/class/misc/voodoo_color/blue_v1_offset

echo 0 >/sys/class/misc/voodoo_color/red_v1_offset

echo 0 >/sys/class/misc/voodoo_color/green_v1_offset
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Thanks liberty for the link!

This will come in useful... I may end up putting this in the op ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] DaX05:
Finally! Perfect colors!! Thanks Liberty for the great find.

Yes MK, post it in the OP please :)

Beamed from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] Jamalsid:
Good find.

A thanks for you and OP.
[Nexus S Android Development] y3mita:
Similar to this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21341959
[Nexus S Android Development] darth7:
Hi, I was on 15.5 and every thing was fine for hours. But then all Apps started to crash. I rebooted and happened again almost instantly. So I reflashed 15.5 and happened again. IM now back to 15 and working fine.

What do you guys think about this?

Enviado desde mi Ice Cream Nexus Sandwich usando Tapatalk
[Nexus S Android Development] dark06:
With this settings, including the 26,30,33 gamma hack, green screen is lessend especially in white backgrounds.im using just the voodoo app.i suggest this to be the default colors in the next kernel mk :)
[Nexus S Android Development] DaX05:
Get back on 15.5 & fix permissions.

Beamed from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
I'm not making any default settings but I'll put up a script that can be loaded through rom toolbox :)
[Nexus S Android Development] dark06:
Even better :). Including the stock voltages patch?
[Nexus S Android Development] clocker66:
As someone said before, it seems that with Deep Idle deactivated, the battery drain while the NS is supposed to be in Deep Sleep State, has almost faded.

IDK why but it works...
[Nexus S Android Development] micha3lvd:
whenever I go to manage apps and then current running services I see this.. I've tried rebooting but no success very odd never experienced thus before
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Not a big deal... if it bothers you so much tape a piece of paper on your phone ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] The1Shark:
LOL .. :)

Flashed 15.5 earlier today, so far so good !

Love your work MK

CPU:

OC/UC 210-1365 kernel default UV, deep ideal is on + bt fix, sio & lulzactive.

lulzactive configuration :

inc cpu load 60%

pump up step = 1 step

pump down step = 2 step

screen off min step = 6@210

up sample time = 15000

down sample time = 30000

the1shark
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Cool :)
[Nexus S Android Development] nodstuff:
You should turn off deep idle and push up Inc CPU load to 70-75%

At 60% you are gonna be hitting Max frequency even for light workloads.

Other than that you are on a winner.

If you want better battery I suggest leaving oc at 1000mhz and if you want you can.leave live oc at 105%.
[Nexus S Android Development] R-TEAM:
Hi,

15.5 look running nice - but no 1100Mhz step :\

Please make an 1100Mhz step mathkid95 :)

Regards

R-TEAM
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
Use liveoc of 110 on 1ghz

There's your 1.1 ghz ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] R-TEAM:
Hi,

he,he - thats not the problem ;)

To explain ->

I use already LiveOC at 120% stable and max Freq. at nominal 1000Mhz - this give me 1200 with LiveOC 120 ....

But with the next available nominal step from 1200Mhz i get by LiveOC 120 at the end 1440Mhz - this cant handle my phone Stable.The max its can handle is around 1360-1380Mhz ... si IF an nominal 1100Mhz step available i can go to 1320 with LiveOC 120 ;)

(and get so 10% more CPU and 10% more GPU power ;) )

THIS is the reason i need an step from 1100Mhz .....

Regards

R-TEAM
[Nexus S Android Development] The1Shark:
Thanks !

but why turning off deep ideal ?

I don't have random reboots, It just there .. when the conditions are right, it will engage, otherwise it is just seats there and do nothing.
[Nexus S Android Development] sperelli:
all in all, for best battery life deep idle on or off ?
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Check my thread for battery workup. Deep idle isn't providing any battery saving.

For kernel benchmarks and more, see here: http://goo.gl/mpeHI
[Nexus S Android Development] The1Shark:
I think it depends on your daily tasks .. but I'm not an expert.
[Nexus S Android Development] moriz1:
Looks like the battery drain issue was ROM related. Upgraded to apex 1.0.2, and matrix 15.5 no longer drain half of the battery in one night.
[Nexus S Android Development] Icecoldmeat:
I tried all kernels because of scroll lagg (I hate that) and this one is the smoothest with scrolling.. good job.

( lulzactive - sio )

Sent from my Gummy Nexus with some help of Tapatalk.
[Nexus S Android Development] jark99:
Can someone explain what lulz active is? Im usully on demand. Whats so good abt lulz and how do i properly tweak it?
[Nexus S Android Development] Icecoldmeat:
You can download the ''lulzactive'' app from the market, explains a little bit better what it does if you put something higher/lower.

These are my settings..

Inc CPU Load - 65%

Pump up/down step - 1

Screen off min step - 5, @400MHz

Up sample time - 22500

Down sample time - 42500

Good luck.
[Nexus S Android Development] agovinoveritas:
Okay a few questions:

What is USB OTG?

How is Wheatley? Has anyone work benched that baby? -- Barely no info...

How about "Stochastic Fair Blue?" Googled it and the best I got is that it is a very smart way of re-arranging packets when downloading. Do you know more?

Thank you, Sir.
[Nexus S Android Development] :
I did a battery test with wheatley. It used competitively more power than over governors, indicating it stays at an unnecessarily high frequency. It's been stated by Ezekeel that it's not intended for nexus s.

For kernel benchmarks and more, see here: http://goo.gl/mpeHI
[Nexus S Android Development] Andrew1998:
which is the better kernel , and how i install it on 4.0.4 nexus s i9023 ?... which is the use of kernel...help me!
[Nexus S Android Development] :
Install kernel and nstools from market. Use to select smartassV2 and deadline.

For kernel benchmarks and more, see here: http://goo.gl/mpeHI
[Nexus S Android Development] HGhertel1:
mathkid, please clean the ugly ram-cosmetic 0,00B in the next update. thanks
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
thanks! :D
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
Mk can you make the phone boot faster?

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
By the way, I will fix the 0.00 ram issue with the next update
[Nexus S Android Development] jark99:
I switched from ondemand to this. Ondemand wasgiving me unheardof battery results! :D hope lulzactive can beat that…
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
Startup boot.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] pilspeda:
Finally got v15.5 running smooooooooth

- BLN

- Deep IDLE

- sio

- lulzactive

- min. CPU: 100

- max. CPU: 800

-- Pump UP: 2 Step

-- Up Sample 15000 µs
[Nexus S Android Development] The1Shark:
OTG Quesation I hope you don't mind..

I am trying to connect a usb mass storage device to the phone using OTG feature.

I took a standard USB cable ( Micro type B to Type A ) and added a plug which has a standard-A receptacle on both sides. (see attached pics).

then I connected the usb mass storage device but got nothing.

Actually dmesg is saying : "root hub is not present , usb host mode is not active or not available"

I'm probably doing something wrong here but what ?

I'm using Nexus S rooted ICS stock with Matr1x kernel v15.5 and I'm using USB host controller app v0.42 which was recommended here.

So what am I doing wrong ?

Thanks in advance

the1shark
[Nexus S Android Development] mobile_pc:
Though Matr1x has all Ezekeel's MOD (including LiveOC and Deep_Idle), very stable!

No reboot so far :)
[Nexus S Android Development] krfoy:
will the next release bring 3.2 ver kernel? ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
It hasn't been ported over yet...

I'm considering the 3.2 cpuidle back port but I'm not sure
[Nexus S Android Development] SA-07:
But what else do you guys wanna see in v16.0?

This is a special release for my age :D