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[Motorola Photon 4G] ronnienyc:
My Photon works great! No real lag and never randon reboots.

However, I am thinking of getting another phone because the Photon does not have nearly as much develpment as some phones do.

And I am eager to try ice cream sandwich (which is already available on the Nexus S, Epic Touch, etc.)

The pentile screen bothers me only rarely. I think the better your eye sight is, the worse it looks. For me, it only looks pixellated when my glasses are on ;-)
[Motorola Photon 4G] Futuredev.tjb:
Good point the development for the photon does seem lacking
[Motorola Photon 4G] fester30:
Random reboots are a gingerbread thing. Just about every GB phone has that problem, some more than others. I've had 1 in the month and a half I've had my photon. Epic Touch is great from a computing standpoint, that's where it really wins. However, the support from Samsung is very lacking. They have quite a few issues, especially loss of signal, where they have to be rebooted to get signal back. Photon works better as a phone, and still very good as a computer. Touch great as a computer, not so great as a phone. Development may lack here, but it's not as necessary yet (until software and programming start to overload the hardware, about a year).

The display difference is very noticeable, as I came from an Epic. After a couple weeks, however, I didn't really notice anymore and it definitely doesn't bother or annoy me.
[Motorola Photon 4G] wireless.praying.mantis:
I have had a stock ROM rooted Motorola Photon 4G since it's launch as well as the POTAUs and haven't had any issues with mine regarding response lag or device reboots and the PenTile matrix display doesn't phase me any. If you need an Android OS based device and travel internationally, I'd go with the Motorola Photon 4G. If you want an ultra thin Android OS based design with a screen size just under a 2" difference short of the Galaxy Tab, go with the Samsung Epich Touch 4G.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Equalizir:
my photon reboots atleast twice a day.I'd go for the epic touch if I could do it again.
[Motorola Photon 4G] dcowboys2184:
Photon... Some people on here don't look good enough in the development section.. OC kernels a very stable Cm7 with everything working.. And that even have a oc 1.4 kernel to it... You can push out 40 different roms with maybe 1 or 2 tweak differences.. Lot of the devs been working quietly.. And there's something cold .... Hmmm .. Lol.. But honestly the photon is a great device best in my book for sprint radio and build wise.. The ET is ok just don't trust Samsung anymore.. The reboots not happening with me unless they do when I'm sleep. Just get a photon my word you won't regret it..
[Motorola Photon 4G] Futuredev.tjb:
Are you sure the photon is worth it?
[Motorola Photon 4G] MedicStuder:
I came from epic touch to photon. Personally i have had a lot of issues with samsung phones. The major one (hopefully fixed by now) was the loss of service issue. Thats why i got the photon and i dont regret it at all.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lancerz:
The photon is a much better device, better build quality, better wireless radio. The original Epic 4G just got officially updated to Gingerbread a couple weeks ago so that lets you know how bad samsung is when it comes to supporting there phones. If you've ever owned a samsung phone you know about the cheap plastic feel they all have. Question is would you rather have a bigger screen or a better phone?
[Motorola Photon 4G] kbboykin:
I actually bought a near mint used photon off eBay as I got tired of waiting on Samsung to push put GB for my Epic as my family's cheaper phones were getting GB. I have not had a single of the issues that have been reported. Crosses fingers. Never had a random reboot. The battery life is amazing! As soon as an ICS port comes out, I'll likely root it. I have looked at the ET4G, but would be hard pressed to leave my photon for it. Just my opinion. You'll find pros and cons for both. The photon runs every app that I needed from the market flawlessly. It is an excellent phone.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Damanis1:
I love my photon haven't had a problem since i got it(week after it came out). We just need more devs.
[Motorola Photon 4G] daddymikey1975:
to do what ??

port CM7 ? (almost done and almost official.. then I suspect work on MIUI may follow)

build kernels for overclocking ? (done.. we're stable to 1.4)

for themes ? (got plenty of that going on)

or here's a harsh statement. join the dev crowd. Then we'll have another one.

A device's quality is not measured by the development community behind it. A device's quality is measured by how well it works and the support it receives from it's manufacturer.

Most of the development communities for some of the other devices are re themed copies of 1 or 2 different ROMs and a tweak or 2 here or there.. most of the 'devs' in the other device communities are "cut/paste' devs.. they copy and paste different parts of several ROMs together, package it and call it their own.

What we have here in MoPhoLand are several VERY talented devs that collaborate and really BUILD their software enhancements/improvements. Sure they ask for help along the way when they run into an obstacle but who doesn't ?? Personally I got sick of flashing ROM after ROM after ROM on my Epic just to get this feature working properly, or get away from that bug etc.. IMO the selection of enhancements that are available for the Photon are very good quality. CM7 is very usable, we also have a couple overclock kernels. what more do you need ?? The device is great just rooted stock.. anything else is just taking something really good and making it great.

(steps off high horse and goes back into hiding because I really get annoyed by people that feel an entitlement yet no desire to learn or help)
[Motorola Photon 4G] bearw815:
^.^ ++++10000000
[Motorola Photon 4G] Damanis1:
Well i guess you are right that a lot of other "devs" are copy and paste, and that i should also learn how to do what i want seeing it's well what i want.I guess the only thing i'm really waiting for is unlocked bootloader w/ 4g Seeing i live in a 4g area and it is really nice to have. So i should have been more careful on choosing my words instead of just saying "we just need more devs". Also learning how to create stuff for phones sounds like fun, seeing i love to learn stuff like this and I've learned basics of java and looked into c++ just because it was interesting to me, It's just since my son was born, working full time and spending time with my wife kind of eats all my time, I can almost never work on my car or even clean it cuz i'm so busy now a days. So to wrap things all up, yes we do have a great devs and i should learn to help myself instead of asking for people to do it for me. But if someone was doing it for me i'm willing to wait.
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
No lags for me.

Reboots once a week - but my HTC phones did that too. It's an Android SW issue, not a HW issue.

I love the Pentile display, but some hate it. See it for yourself.

Sammy is cheap and plastic to me.

I tried the 2 phones side by side in a store - Moto much better on data speeds.

4.5 is not an issue to me - really doesn't seem big.

You didn't mention the showstopper for me - the lower resolution for the Sammy. That alone kept me from buying.
[Motorola Photon 4G] sjamie:
For those of you experiencing random reboots, does it ever happen to you when you are talking on the phone? This is a big problem for me.
[Motorola Photon 4G] thegameksk:
Deff go with the Photon. I bought it used off Ebay and have had no issues. I came from an Epic 4g and ill never go back to Sammy again. They dont support their device and when an updates thats been promised for months finally comes out it breaks the GPS. I have a friend with the Epic Touch and he hates it. Its a good phone but there is a severe loss of service issue that Sprint and Samsung have no idea when it will be fixed. On my old epic I had 1 bar of service in my house now I have 4 bars. I love this phone. Best part about it in my opinion is the fact that Google bought Motorola so we should be seeing an update to ICE relatively soon.
[Motorola Photon 4G] foxsdaddy67:
just say no to crapsung!
[Motorola Photon 4G] Damanis1:
One of the main downfalls i can see for the photon if you use 4g and your lazy (like me) and don't wona do the long way to get ROMs on
[Motorola Photon 4G] sjamie:
"Crapsung"... wow! LOL
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
I love cut in paste, so much easier then typing everything out.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Puzzlegal:
Go to a shop and play with it. It bothers some people a lot more than it bothers others. I've been able to see pixels on every screen I've used since my brother's TRS80. I find the Photon's screen to be clear and crisp and legible, and I think photos look very nice on it. But it's a personal thing, and YMMV. So play with one and decide for yourself. It's not like the Pentile screen will suddenly get worse a week after you buy it or anything.

Someone posted a poll on one of these forums. Most people who bothered to answer the poll have had no problems. I've had the Photon since launch day, and I don't think it's ever randomly rebooted on me. It certainly hasn't often enough to bother me. I used to be troubled by the "sleep of death" (need to plug it in or pull the battery to restart) but that's only happened once since the last ota update. I don't find it laggy at all, either. (Of course, I came from a Palm, so maybe anything new would seem silky-smooth to me.)

I think the Photon is a little too big, but again, that's personal. I have never used the Epic touch and can't speak to it's quality.

My only concern with the Photon is whether we will get ICS. I am not a developer, and have neither the skills nor the time to do that. But coming from the Pre, I really really want ICS, which promises to give me back some of my favorite features from the Pre, especially "cards". (Okay, they are vertical instead of horizontal. I liked horizontal, but I'm sure vertical will be great, too.)

Of course, there's a good chance that Motorola will release ICS for this phone, and if not, there's an excellent chance that the developers will, although not as fast as on the most popular phones. But it is a smaller development community, and right now I don't think you can take it for granted that you will be able to get ICS on the Photon.

Personally, I'd wait a couple of weeks and see what Moto says. (But I'm the sort of person who hasn't rooted my phone.)

Anyhow, odds are you will like either phone, and odds are that your next phone won't be completely perfect. So don't sweat it too much.
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Seem? It is, evo and epic touch 4G get weekly roms
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
If you rooted your epic why would you have to wait?
[Motorola Photon 4G] pigphish:
No reboots and very fast for me. Photon is great.

Just had my first reboot ever while using wifi tether while getting a call which makes me think out might be the app.
[Motorola Photon 4G] RNSlate:
I had the epic 4g touch, and I returned it for the Photon. While the samsung had a really nice display, I suffered from the LOS issue, and it began to bother me. I am a sales rep, and would look at my phone after going into some plants, and it was oos, and I always had to reboot.

A couple of important things led me to the photon, First the radio. The radio blows the samsung away. I live in rural Iowa and I get far better reception, including 5 miles greater 4g.

I like the kickstand alot, especially that it is active. The screen is nice on both, and dont flame, but I like the better resolution of the photon.

I wish the Photon had wireless n.

With the cardock, and webdock it has really come to life. I find myself using my ipad a lot less.

As far as development goes, I agree with the other posts about 40 plus roms with minor tweaks. I am unlocked, running 1.3 cool with quadrant over 3000, and no noticed battery life loss. Stock rooted Rom, and I find it to be a very reliable phone. I have not had any random reboots at all?

Just my two cents. I find Motorola hardware to be top notch, and We will get ICS sooner or later, officially or not.
[Motorola Photon 4G] daddymikey1975:
do they ?? how many of these are true, built-from-the-ground-up ROMs ? how many are cut/pasted together w/ a tweak here or there ??

(here comes the funny question) how many are added on to fix a problem w/ the device ??

ok.. now when there's a really good device (such as the MoPho) there aren't many 'fixes' needed.. what we have are enhancements, CM7 and custom kernels.

If you want cry please do so where someone might give a **** cuz we sure don't.

/soapbox
[Motorola Photon 4G] tetrabyt:
Photon 200%

I come from the Epic 4G and Im not impressed with the Epic Touch. I've had the opportunity to mod both the Photon and the Epic touch and I still find the Photon more stable and a much better built phone. As for development, just check out one of joker's roms, kernels and theme... Excellent work. as for more themes, theyre coming along.
[Motorola Photon 4G] sjamie:
Yes, joker is the bomb! :D

---------- Post added at 06:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:56 PM ----------

The Photon actually has a 802.11b,g,n wireless radio.

http://bit.ly/sejGlw
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
You happy with two roms, ha
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
I wasn't so i made my own.
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
homebase, magnifier, joker roms, cm7, alien... am i forgetting any? they may not be updated doesnt make them any less good as software..

me personally.. im sitting on stock because i am.. actually content with thios phone (mostly) stock. just gutta relock my bootloader after flashing jokers rom and ubuntop so i can have what i consider the best experience for myself :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] daddymikey1975:
When I had my epic I flashed ROMs all the time hoping for enough fixes because that phone had plenty of bugs. It was a great device but buggy as hell. Right now on my Photon I'm rooted stock and have been since day 1. Once CM7 is in beta stage or final I'll sport it.

To directly answer your question I'm happy with my device the way it is nd I'm super stoked that we have CM7 almost "finished".

Sent phrom my Mo-Pho
[Motorola Photon 4G] Android 17:
I just bought the Photon online a few days ago...waiting for it to get to me. For anyone still on the fence, I managed to find the Photon for .1 cent with an upgrade, while the cheapest I could find the Epic 4G Touch is $100.

When you compare the price difference, as well as the cons and pros of each, I believe the Photon wins.

I've managed to play with both a decent bit. I'm coming from an EVO 4G I got at launch. Though I love the display on the Touch, I found that the Pentile screen on the Photon did not bother me as I thought it would, and colors are also nice and vibrant while not being overly saturated as is usually the case with AMOLED screens.

The build quality is also a lot more solid, and though the build quality on the Touch does not really bother me too much, I'd feel safer if I dropped a Photon as opposed to a Touch.

I would prefer the Exynos GPU, as the Tegra 2 is certainly capable but not as strong, but it seems with the OC kerners, it could really fly. Nonetheless, it will be a good upgrade from the lackluster Adreno GPU on the EVO.

I read these forums closely and though you could argue that the Touch has more development, as has been mentioned, a good bit of the roms appear to be very similar, certainly based off the same base at least.

My only hope is that the Photon gets at least alpha/nightly builds of ICS within a couple of months, that would be awesome.

Consider this as well: the Touch does not have any AOSP roms. There is no CM, at least not one stable in the least from what I've read, whereas the Photon appears to have a nearly fully functional CM7-based rom, this is a HUGE deal to me, as it should be for a good bit of Android enthusiasts here.

I'd rather take 3 great, fully functional roms as seems to be the case here, than multiple roms that are completely based off stock with varying themes and tweaks.

The LOS issue on the Touch is also of huge concern, though it seems to have been mitigated largely by the dev community, it is still very much a hassle and if you live in area like I do, which signal varies from decent to mediocre, I think the LOS would drive me nuts.

I've heard nothing but great things about the radios on the Photon, and last but not least, I would hate to give up my kickstand from the EVO!

(I apologize for the long post, I'm just excited for my Photon to arrive and I feel that since I've carefully researched both phones for months before making a decision that my opinion have at least a bit of merit.)
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Umm doesnt cyanogen himself work for samsung, and they gave him a galaxy2 just to make cyanogenmod?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Android 17:
Yes, there's working ROMS for the GSM variants of the Galaxy SII, but the Epic 4G Touch has yet to receive CM7.

Take a look at this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1348832

Some devs were trying to port ICS to the Touch but decided instead to begin work on CM7 for the phone as a starting base.

It'll likely be just a matter of time before eventually CM7 is out and functional for the Touch, but it has yet to happen.

I'm not hating on the phone or anything, it just seems development on certain Samsung phones can be fairly difficult.

On another note, it seems the Touch guys might have a fairly functional Miui port soon, which might help with development on CM7 for them. Though I'm not a big Miui fan.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Dsparil:
The reason I installed a custom rom on my original Epic was for ext4, fix gps and wifi, and free wifi tether and roam control.

I've had enough of Samsung, and I'll be buying a Photon on Craigslist.

Since Motorola doesn't have these issues with stock, I only need to root for free wifi tether and roam control. I don't even need a custom rom.
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smiles.smiley:
I've searched High and Low for a solution but I can't find anyone who have the same problem as I do.

My Galaxy Tab is running on 2.3.3 and it has been good all this while. Then recently, when my Galaxy Tab shows the 100% fully charged symbol, after unplugging it falls back into the battery % I had before charging. (This happens when I left it idle/when I'm sleeping)

Basically the problem is, it wouldn't charge. So I decided to monitor it as it charges. After 2 hours or so, the battery still shows 53% charging and did not increase. Neither did it drop while charging.

However, when I drain it a little, it varies. For example when I drain it to 43% and recharge after that, it might charge till it's 60% or 55% and stuck.

I need a solution. Thank You:)
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Reb0rn:
Well first of you should try to use an app called battery calibrator.

But it can also be that you have one of the faulty Taiwan battery's. Samsung replaced them later on with China battery's and they don't have this problem...

I have an Taiwan battery with similar troubles. I for example can charge to 100% then disconnect and fall too 99% instantly. Then if I reboot I come back with 50% battery or less left...

So I don't reboot my phone when not at home :)

Anyways, I orderd a new Chinese battery from eBay ...
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alfajef:
i have a bit same problem. when i charge the battery percentage still the same even if i charge it for 2 or 3 hours...is this a software problem?pls help.thnx
[HTC EVO 3D] korruptedimage:
Is anyone aware of a solid method to change out the boot animations within the senselessROM on the EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 unlock HTC method
[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
looks like you can use root explorer and move it to system/customize/resource from the 3 i looked into(senseless 1.0,2.0, 2.9). if your running sensless 2.9 you can just flash it through recovery(if its flashable)or like i said up there^^^^ use root explorer make sure it's named Sprint_bootanimation and move it to system/customize/resource and make sure the permissions are correct (rw-r-r)
[HTC EVO 3D] korruptedimage:
Hmm. That last part must be something new to me. Excuse me if it seems like I'm a newb but can you explain (rw-r-r) and permissions. How would I go about making sure the permissions are correct?
[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
To check permissions you use root explore or es file explorer and go to where the file you want to check is then long press on the zip you want to check and scroll down to properties press it and it will bring up a pop up box and it will show the permissions( i'll post a pic later) and if their not right(most need to be rw_r_r) then press change. That will bring up another pop that has 3 rows with 3 boxes

Examples below

And press ok after changing them to match the pics I posted and back out and there you go. Any more questions feel free to ask

Tapa away from a galaxy far away
[HTC EVO 3D] korruptedimage:
Hmm. I did everything as written and pictured. Made sure the permissions were right. Still didn't work with the boot animation I wanted. I'm not even sure the boot animation i had would work for the EVO 3D knowing it was android piss on apple boot animation for the EVO 4G. I found a flashable beats boot and down animation though that I have flashed successfully from recovery. It will do for now. I just really want an android pissing on apple everytime I turn my phone off and on lol.
[HTC EVO 3D] dased14:
check in mutant13's thread for old school bootani's i believe he has that flashable for the 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] korruptedimage:
I finally accomplished what I was aiming for. I learn something new everyday, especially since I got the EVO 3D about 3 weeks ago with hboot 1.50 preinstalled, that was a bummer. Especially when I got really used to my EVO 4g with s-off. Oh boy how much easier s-off was.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Futuredev.tjb:
Hello everyone I need some help deciding if I should get the Photon 4G or the Epic Touch? I really want the Photon but I'm a little worried about the pentile display,the lag and random reboots I've been hearing about. I'm worried about the Epic Touch because of the weak reception, plasticky hardware, and I also don't know if the 4.5 in screen is just too big? What do you all think?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] qbking77:
To be honest, 4.3 in is probably the optimal size. that or 4 inches. I feel that 4.5 probably is a little too large. The superamoled screen is so much better than the photon's though. Speed wise, epic touch. Signal strength of every single radio, photon no doubt. The photon's radio is better than any sprint phones. Build quality, the photon is more sturdy and the touch is obviously thin and more plasticky. Both are great devices in my opinion.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Futuredev.tjb:
Is the pentile noticeable on the Photon?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mikel719:
Not unless you look for it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Futuredev.tjb:
Cool. I'm not to sure about a 4.5in screen on the Epic Touch it seems to big.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jprovan1:
Photon is real laggy
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Futuredev.tjb:
Is the lag a serious issue?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] _MetalHead_:
Yep. It reaches out and smacks you right across the eyes, just like every other pentile display.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] limeaid:
No it's not. Honestly, I would have stuck with the Photon if the camera had not been so terrible compared to the GS2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jordant2:
I had this same debate also. I was going to get the Photon because of the radio strength but after playing with both in the Sprint store, the SGSII was just faster, brighter, more beautiful display, and I couldn't pass on it. I'm sure the Photon would've been a good choice signal wise from what I hear, but my Sprint service is not so great in my area anyway. Just not sure how much the Photon would've helped. Not to mention the development section here!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] difrent7:
You have a 14 trial period take advantage of it. Check them out at a Sprint store and see what you like. Everyone is going to be different. I personally don't find the screen to too big. It is by far the smoothest Android device I have ever used.