yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
All I meant was, yeah, you can flash the ICS leaked RUU specifically without S Off, but I'm not sure you guys are aware of the risk you've taken by doing that. Having S On and running that ICS Rom already means that you're gonna have to wait until someone figures out a way to S Off the new bootloader that flashes with that RUU, if it's even possible to begin with. It took this long to S Off this one (since the launch of the Sensation approximately), and they've already patched that breach with this new bootloader. So you might potentially be permanently stuck in S On.

Does this hinder root access? No. But it does limit certain other abilities that require S Off (flashing of splashscreens, if I'm not mistaken the ability to flash new radios etc etc). I was VERY close to using the S On method of flashing the RUU last night, but the read the forwarning from the same guy who provided the instructions and decided against it for this very reason. I don't know enough about S Off to fully, properly illustrate its true importance, but spash screen mods are nice to have, and radio updates are sometimes required to get a particular custom ROM to even run properly in the first place. ::shrugs:: it's anybody's guess, I'm just (perhaps needlessly) trying to properly illustrate the unfortunate risk this choaos (created by understandable excitement) has lead a lot of people into (myself almost being one of those individuals) ::shrugs::
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Here's probably a stupid question but it's early and I'm still half asleep...

If I end up flashing ICS and just don't like it, with all the hoopla surrounding this with new radio, etc., can I go back to Energy Sense 3.0 without jumping through a bunch of complicated hoops? I really like this ROM and don't feel the need or craving to flash ICS but would like to try it. Maybe with S-off it would be easier to flash back? Could a nandroid backup simply restore everything back to Energy Sense 3.0? Sorry if these are dumb questions but I'm feeling dumb right now. :confused:
[HTC Amaze 4G] lnxpro:
yes. all you would need to do to go back to this ROM is the following:

1. unlock your boot loader again (had to be locked to flash the leaked RUU)

2. flash your favorite recovery (clockwork or ext4)

3. flash this ROM or any other ROM.

pretty simple.

I have already unlocked my bootloader again and flashed ext4 touch recovery. just waiting on NRG to release some sweet version of the leaked ROM :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] derride8:
Do u have s-off?

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4g, but still rocks the Vibrant.
[HTC Amaze 4G] lnxpro:
not yet. but you do not need S-OFF to do all this.

I do want to try to get S-OFF so I can flash my own boot splash screens and such.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Thanks! I was hoping it would be that easy! I wasn't sure because of the new radio ICS would flash. I'm waiting for NRG also. I love his ROMS and although I'm still not sure about ICS, I will try it. I love Energy Sense 3.0!
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
I flashed the ruu with an unlocked bootloader AND s-off with no problems, I just had to flash the eng hboot and super user to regain root and I was still s-off after the ruu finished installing.

Then I had to restore a backup so I could redo my titanium backups, because I lost those when the s-off method wiped my sd. Now I'm back on the ICS update with all my apps.

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] lnxpro:
i didn;t try the RUU with the unlocked bootloader. so i locked it since some of those posts on the RUU leaked thread said i should relock the boot loader for a tmobile us version of the phone. so i did. no biggie.

i will get s-off over the weekend when i have time to open up the phone, remove the sticker that is covering the contact needed for the wire trick. i don't want to risc scraping something else with a pin to try and remove the sticker through the small pinhole :)

but it was confirmed that doing the RUU leaked rom did not break the S-OFF or anything else.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Well I tried the s-off steps over and over and over and ended up with a brick. I'm still working on restoring it. I hope what I'm doing works! What a nightmare. There was no sticker on mine. I tried every combination of 2 pokes and even duplicated the video exactly and it still screwed up! If this works, I am just going to stay on Energy until a software s-off is found like the Sensation. I'll wait to flash ICS until I find out from someone if doing so will kill any possibility of attaining s-off in the future as many have surmised.

NRG, are you still going to do an update for your Energy 3.0 ROM here or are you now moving on to ICS only? Do you know if still not having s-off is not a big deal as you've stated in the past? Are you going to s-off

your

Amaze??

Edit: After some challenging moments, I got Energy ROM back up and running. I had my sound turned off during the wire thing. Maybe that is why it didn't work. Didn't hear the connecting sounds. Oh well. I'm chicken now! haha
[HTC Amaze 4G] govindar77:
The s-off website - unlimited.io - states that

" JuopunutBear currently supports the following Android phones running GingerBread and Ice-Cream Sandwich (where released/leaked):

HTC Amaze (ruby)

HTC Vivid/Raider/Velocity (raider)

HTC Rezound (vigor)

HTC Sensation (pyramid)

HTC myTouch Slide 4G (doubleshot)

JuopunutBear will permanently unlock NAND flash write protection on all supported devices."

Doesn't this mean that you can use this method even after updating to ICS on the Amaze 4G. That's certainly what it looks like!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
i dont see why not, they couldnt of patched the S-OFF method completely becuase it came out recently
[HTC Amaze 4G] lnxpro:
That is correct. there have been people that have flashed ICS leaked RUU and went to S-OFF afterwards and there was no problem. I am doing the same thing.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
really THATS AWSOME
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Now you tell me! LOL. I will wait for NRG's ICS ROM then before I flash ICS and then possibly give s-off another go if he even thinks it is necessary which I doubt!
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
people praise S-OFF a little too much, all it gives is Radio Flashing support, custom splash screens, and Super CID, i think i missed one, but it isnt going to be necessary
[HTC Amaze 4G] nofroyo:
In respect of NGRZ's rom's thread we should hold off all S-OFF speculations regarding his official ICS rom until it has been released. He will tell us all if anything is required before upgrading to his new ICS rom. Until then we should all keep minimal noise down until he has released the rom.

Any other questions Regarding S-Off or the official ISC leak should be discussed in their own respectable threads.

that is just my 2 cents worth lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] NRGZ28:
Exactly. S-OFF is not all that important! Except to the nerds that insist on matching their RIL with their radios (and sometimes brick their devices in the process).

To the people asking, I plan to update THIS ROM and then make it a final soon after.

Then, on to remixing the ICS ROM. I already have it modded and tweaked pretty nicely on the Sensation side, however now there' some roadblocks to deodexing this new ICS leak that I haven't been able to overcome yet. When that happens....
[HTC Amaze 4G] NRGZ28:
Let them make noise.. this thread is too quiet anyway :) Not much else to talk about anyway.. the rom is pretty bug free as it is.
[HTC Amaze 4G] lnxpro:
Agreed with nofroyo. this is after all a NRG sense 3.0 thread. but this got me wondering if NRG is going to open a new thread for the ICS version of his rom.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
yea i have problems deodexing too, might as well see if mike did it right
[HTC Amaze 4G] govindar77:
I'd be careful about that. The website also says this -

- Be on the stock ROM and be rooted (have superuser and/or an unsecured boot image installed)

Some custom ROMs may work, however we cannot verify them all. If you are not using a stock ROM and have problems then this is most likely the reason.

I'd do the S-OFF attempt with a stock ROM.
[HTC Amaze 4G] lnxpro:
the leaked RUU ICS is a stock ROM :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] govindar77:
Yessir, but I think frodoboy was saying that he wants to flash ENERGY ICS ROM and then try for S-off again. ENERGY ICS would not be stock.

If I misunderstood - MY APOLOGIES ... ;) ... I was only trying to help!! I don't care about S-OFF anyway. I know how to flash stock ROMs or custom ROMs without it. S-OFF is just too damn hard (no offense to the awesome work by the developers) and I've tried a bunch of times without any success. If it becomes absolutely necessary, I'll think about it then ... :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Yeah I was wondering if it was because I was not on a stock ROM although Energy is based pretty much on stock. Anyway, I'm waiting for NRG's latest and almost last update to this fabulous flawless (for me) ROM. Then I might move on to ICS with Energy...and then again, maybe I won't!:D

---------- Post added at 02:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:29 PM ----------

I don't care about s-off either. If a new radio comes out with a ROM, we can always lock, flash the ROM and radio, unlock, then revert back to the ROM of our choice as long as it will be compatible with the new radio. Mine works fine right now. If it ain't broke........just sayin'!
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
I did s-off with a custom ROM with no problem.

Sent from the morgue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
Lol I s-offed with sense 3.5 tbankfully nothing wrong happened
[HTC Amaze 4G] govindar77:
You guys are lucky, or good, or both .... :)

I tried with Energy ROM 3.0, and failed miserably.

Maybe I'll try again, but then again, what's the point? ..... :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
Dude ask yourself the following questions

1- do I NEED to change a 5-10 second splash screen

2- am I not in t mobile and need SuperCID

If you said no or Maybe not to any of these questions....... F#$k S OFF

Sent From HTC Amaze Speed Rom 2.0.0 ICS Sensless Alpha 1
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
It took me a really long time, but I obtained s off while having this ROM (energy sense 3.0) flashed. It had nothing to do with the ROM however, that didn't hinder it at all. I just realized after a million tries that I wasn't realeasing the wire from the contacts with the right timing. I don't know if anyone made that same mistake (continueing to hold the wire to the contacts after it tells you to do the trick, talks to your phone for a second, and reboots) so just in case, I'm pretty sire that's where I went wrong. When it worked for me I happened to pull the wire away as the phone rebooted and it worked perfectly =)

While we're on the subject, I'm getting paranoid. I realize that I forgot to titanium back up my angry birds and GTA3 progress (which was HELLA, all levels on angry birds and space, and I got towards the end of the game on GTA 3 lol). My question being -

Now that I've obtained s off and am running the ICS Rom (in its pure form) is it safe to do a nandroid backup, flash my previous back up down to gingerbread so I can titanium backup my games, then nandroid restore my ICS state? All logic says absolutely, but things seeming as delicate as they are I figured is get some confirmation before I tried anything =)
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
Hey now. No need to be that way. That was a bit uncalled for.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
Sorry........ Really need to hop off XDA after I take my meds :(

Sent From HTC Amaze Speed Rom 2.0.0 ICS Sensless Alpha 1
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
I think you mis-read his post. He was saying if you don't need either of those two things then screw getting S-OFF. Not telling the person to F-OFF. :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] jslcpd157:
Ummm... That comment actually helped me make my decision. Lol. You did see that it said F*** S off, not just F*** off... Right?
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
He wasn't telling you to f#$k off. He was saying "then F#$K S-off!" In other words, s-off can go f#$k itself! He could have said "then s-off can go screw itself!" Sorry if you misunderstood. :eek:
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
Lol that was what I meant, I can control myself on my meds after all :D

Sent From HTC Amaze Speed Rom 2.0.0 ICS Sensless Alpha 1
[HTC Amaze 4G] wardfan220:
That is correct, and also why no infraction was given.
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
Oops. You're totally right lol. Sorry elcipze. Truth of the matter is I'm on some pain meds right now cuz I have this bastard of a wisdom tooth drilling into my molar right now. And I'm running on 3 hrs of sleep right now cuz when I finally got my computer ready for s off (I had to reformat, stinkin windows) it was super late and the wire trick took me longer than it should have lol.

My bad. Thanks for the clarification. I guess the trauma caused by a particular developer who relentlessly trolled to no end still hasn't worn off lol. He was apparently banned later, (no, I'm not talking about anyone on this forum, it was a different phone entirely) , but before he was he irrationally attacked me for the most ridiculous reasons on several occasions. It was absurd. I've NEVER argued with ANYONE on xda in its entirety ever except for that guy. Good riddance lol.
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
Yeah lol, I'm quite embarrassed... I as accidentally read it as "f--- off" lol. Stinkin fatigue ha ha.

Can anyone shed any light on my previous question/concern though? Having s off running the ICS ROM right now... Is it safe to do a nandroid backup, flash a pre- s off restore in order to retrieve my game progress I forgot to back up, and then restore the post- s off backup? I'm nearly certain the answer is yes, just paranoid because the whole s off thing seems to be fickle/retaining it seems to be complicate with this ROM.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
Its alright I should of spelled it differently any ways

Sent From HTC Amaze Speed Rom 2.0.0 ICS Sensless Alpha 1
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
Got me laughing though, thanks guys, had a bad day and needed a laugh! :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
With titanium I don't think you have to flash it, I believe you can extract it from the nandroid from within titanium while still running ICS...

sent on a mastadon by way of intercontinental epic journey
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
Flippin sweet!!! Thanks for the tip =). Haven't really done much beyond creating and restoring backups with titanium thus far lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] NRGZ28:
ICS goodness coming. Got the stock ROM the way I like it... now on to modding it to look like an energy release. Any interested in a stock ROM ? Not deodexed for now ?
[HTC Amaze 4G] lnxpro:
screw the stock. been on it for the past 3 days. need NRG ROM fix :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] xxquicksh0txx:
I wouldn't mind having a option for stock look.. just to switch it up sometimes.

It would be the same as the energy release just looking like stock?
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
na, give it the energy fix first
[HTC Amaze 4G] nofroyo:
Can't wait for this rom its going to be awesome
[HTC Amaze 4G] realitysconcierge:
I do love energy theme, but I would also love to have an NRG stock release as well. Energy is the brand I trust
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
Oops. Posted a reply not understanding what you meant lol. Definitely throw up the stock version if you've got it ready sans the themeing =).

Thanks for all the hard work you're putting into this. Anxiously awaiting your release man =)
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrgwap:
Cant wait for this rom i havnt installed any apps or done anythinh yet to the ics leak till ur rom is released lol. Im going to flash the ics theme after i flash ur rom...
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
cant wait for energy ics :D

for you people wanting the stock look just flash android revolution

edit: please add the camera tweak to make the .jpgs bigger or whatever you did in your GB rom :D i miss that tweak now that im using stock.
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
The thing of it is this, NRG said he has all the performance tweaks done. That the only part of his Rom left is the themeing. So the debate/question being is should he upload a stock (non themed) version of his new ROM for now while he does the themeing.

I'd rather have that than the stock Rom or than to flash revolutionary. Not worth the time spent re customizing my system preferences all over again on another Rom (which for me takes about 30 mins to an hour lol) eventually doing so all over again a third time when NRG releases his ya know? =)
[HTC Amaze 4G] Double0EK:
Cool...can't wait to flash a ROM.

Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
well.. considering android revolution has tons of tweaks and the stock look it would be pretty similer to energy stock themed lol. i see no point, thats just my 2 cents though lol

im sure it will only be a few days before he releases the themed version anyways.
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
Oh I gotchya. Yeah, for me, I know that I'm flashin NRGs themed Rom once its released. If he releases the ROM unthemed and I flash it & get all my system preferences set... It's a safe assumption that I won't have to wipe when the themed version comes out. So for now, I'm keepin the stock Rom until he uploads the unthemed version =)
[HTC Amaze 4G] jslcpd157:
Hey NRG, any way to integrate Google Wallet into your ROM?
[HTC Amaze 4G] NRGZ28:
All true.. but an energy rom with the stock look is still better than a revolution rom, IMO. :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Are you going to leave this thread open as the GB version of Energy and open a new thread for ICS Energy? I think this would be helpful because I know some people had success using this ROM for the S-OFF technique when other ROMs didn't work.
[HTC Amaze 4G] NRGZ28:
Yes I am.

I did my own S-OFF with my ROM sucessfully as well. It works well with it.

Now...

I'm uploading TWO files to the download folder in the second (3rd?) post. One is PH85IMG.ZIP which is what's required to run the latest ICS leak and another is EnergyAMAZE_ICS.ZIP which is my first ICS ROM for the Amaze. It's stock and it's green, but at least it's tweaked (somewhat) to energy standards. It's something to play with, until I finish the theming on it (which should be during the weekend).

The good thing is.. once I released a themed ROM, you will NOT have to redo all your settings, because I will be using the same base.

So to recap... in order to flash this new ROM, you need to be S-OFF, install the PH85IMG.ZIP file by putting it on your sdcard and flashing it via the bootloader screen (NOT the recovery!!)... then after you did all that.. you can load the ROM zip on your sdcard, go into recovery and actually flash the ROM. The ROM is still odexed, to those who are wondering, which means it's very fast.. you just can't theme it yet.
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Just for clarification...if we are already on the ICS leak, do we still need to run the PH85IMG from the bootloader, or do we just flash Energy?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Kevinik:
Excellent time for me to check the forums.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ksocoolwitit:
Dang so if we have S-ON there's no way to flash it?
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
Downloading now =) thanks man!! =)

Edit - the ROM itself doesn't seem to be there. Still uploading? =)

Edit 2 - second refresh was the charm. NOW I'm downloading it =)
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
I agree 110%!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] NeonMonster:
I'd like to know this too!
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Interesting that you s-off'd as well NRG. I have a question for you. Since I'm s-off'd, if I wanted to go back to Energy from ICS, how would that work with the ICS radio? Would I have to reflash the 3.0 OTA update from several months ago to get the stock radio back and then reflash Energy or possibly do a nandroid restore? It would be great now with s-off just to flash a radio!
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
you would have to flash 1.43 RUU so you can get the old radio's and all the other patitions, it think its about 20. then you can either install a fresh NRGZ Ginberbread rom or restore from nandroid. make sure to use 5.0.2.7 recovery and ENG hboot during this process. I just did the same thing. worked flawlessly...but you do need the old radios and other paritions from gingerbread to be flashed through an RUU, or else you might or might not have problems with a lot of things.
[HTC Amaze 4G] NRGZ28:
No.. you do not. Just the ROM is fine.

Actually you do not. GB ROMs (such as mine in this thread) work just fine with the ICS radio and ICS's updated partitions. Tested it out myself, by restoring a backup of my GB setup (system/data/boot) and it works great :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] realitysconcierge:
Rom is booting just fine. I literally s-offed the moment i saw the download for the rom was up. Many thanks nrgz.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Oscarkb:
Is this ICS ROM or GB ROM? Title say ICS, description say GB. What is it please?
[HTC Amaze 4G] ickedmel:
So what's the feedback so far with this ROM compared to stock ICS
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Yes clarify please. Mike1986 had us update the radio/firmware before installing his ROM. Is that what your ph85img.zip is also? Or is it the ics leak?
[HTC Amaze 4G] ickedmel:
If you have RUU already you don't need to download the first file just the ROM same thing with mikes ROM.
[HTC Amaze 4G] NRGZ28:
Well I decided to stay up and hammer out the themed version. It's 98% done. I'll do the rest of the 2% tomorrow or during the weekend. I will upload what I have so far tonight. But at least we have tweaks in it and extended quicksettings! yay :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
OMFG SOOOOOO much better!!!! =) Energy GB got a benchmark of around 1020. I got a vellamo benchmark of 950 on the stock ICS ROM... And on Energy ICS I just got (wait for it)... 1375!!!! =). NRG, you are a god ha ha.
[HTC Amaze 4G] AndroidAutobot:
Wow. Tonight just keeps getting better and better! =)

Question - system/customize/resource/android_audio.mp3 doesn't seem to be working (boot up audio). Is the filename and/or format different? I noticed on the stock Rom it was "t_mobile..." For bootscreen and audio alike (the audio was in wav format instead) but your build (thankfully) seems to have done away with that since your bootscreen is "bootanimation".

Take no offense, I love that bootscreen of yours (its actually one of the illest bootscreens I've ever seen) I just have a Mario boot screen I typically use in combination with the "entering the tunnel" soundbyte for my boot sequence. Any help you could provide me there would be greatly appreciated. Thanks man =)
[HTC Amaze 4G] NeonMonster:
As opposed to S-Offing my Amaze, I'm going to attempt to do it tonight JUST to be able to flash this rom!

VERY much looking forward to the finished themed rom NRGZ!
[HTC Amaze 4G] william tanaya:
wait. we need to s-off? oh god..
[HTC Amaze 4G] NRGZ28:
I actually have the sound disabled in the default.xml in the /customize/mns folder. You could edit the XML and add the sound line back in there. Look at the one in the stock ROM and compare :)

The themed ROM is uploading. It's not perfect, like I said, but pretty damn good. Expect a few more releases until I think it's good enough to be a final :)

p.s. It's a hybrid odex/deodex build for those themers wondering.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oboetoke:
I previously owned an iphone and now i am getting the galaxy captivate. I was wondering since i was using the edge internet from tmobile on the iphone will it work for the captivate too?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] studacris:
Yes edge will work, no 3g.

Of course The phone needs to be Sim unlocked to use on tmibile at all, but i'm sure you know that :)
[Galaxy S II General] buster041284:
I HAVE TRYED NERLY ALL ROMS AND WOULD TO LIKE TO OFF OVER PEOPLE WAT THEY THINK BEST combination is
[Galaxy S II General] coincoinlapin:
Haha...that was funny. Thanks.
[Galaxy S II General] Deleted member 4038153:
Thanks, I've always wondered what your favourite was!

I'm also impressed you've managed to check battery usage for a kernel released a few hours ago. Brilliant!
[Galaxy S II General] buster041284:
Thanks, I've always wondered what your favourite was!

not my favourite everybody els sorry meant SiyahKernel2.1.1
[Galaxy S II General] poch_1421:
how come your poll's not comprehensive? :D