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[Samsung Captivate Glide] gatormatt:
If you put your phone into download mode which doesnt require root access, then you should be able to flash the boog kernel which should root ur phone.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
Is the boog kernel one related to tf-root?

I'm worried that this kernel won't have all the drivers necessary for this phone, since it's so new; the phone is running 2.6.36.3 right now, and I'm guessing quite differently configured than that of, say, the SGS2.

Do you know any way to extract the kernel from the phone, in case the boog kernel won't boot?
[Samsung Captivate Glide] gatormatt:
Actually upon further look it appears as tho the ChainsDD root may actually work for this phone also tho not entirely sure since i dont have this phone.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
What's this ChainsDD root you speak of? :)
[Samsung Captivate Glide] gtdRR:
Hoping for a Glide forum

I just picked up this phone on Monday night. Have been waiting forever for a Dual-Core, HSPA, QWERTY, etc. This phone is legit!!! The keyboard isn't great but it feels like it just needs some getting used to. My typing speed has already increased in just a couple days.

I tried enabling the Hotspot feature, it tries to verify on the network and then shows an error saying "Tethering/Mobile AP plan is required for this feature, blah, blah"

I also tried superoneclick and no go. Impatiently waiting for root solution. Lol
[Samsung Captivate Glide] MidniteMarauder:
Glide sounds nice. Will have to check it out when it's time for an upgrade. Good luck to you guys that have it already. Will never be on an iPhone, couldn't resist.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] jr_enver:
Want one

Stuck in the UK, has anyone had any joy getting the glide in the UK?

any thoughts from anyone who has got stuff from the USA, or canada.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] GSMinCT:
The iPhone 4S is just as high-end as anything Android out there. First of all, I don't want anything that's one bit larger than 4", and 3.5" just feels so good in my hand. It's about the right size for a phone (maybe 3.7" really is, but 4" is pushing it, and 4.65 is just INSANE).

Sure, it doesn't have a dual 1.2 like DROID RAZR, but the overall UX is on par or better than what Android has to offer, as it is smooth and responsive nearly 100% of the time, which is more than what can be said for Android. Hopefully ICS will be a huge improvement, but we'll see.

There are also a lot of little details that just work better on the iPhone. For example, talking on the phone with headphones for the speaker, but still using the internal mic to pick up my voice. Android has the hardware to do this, but I was never able to convince the software to actually do it. iPhone does it by default. The iPhone's audio has also been influenced by Verizon, and offers good feedback with great overall quality. Although iPhone doesn't have free GPS, when I'm using TomTom, it can automatically pause my Audiobook or Podcast and say the GPS direction and unpause it, something Android can't do because it's a separate device from my iPod. The battery life is excellent, and always gets me through a full day. This varies widely among Android phones. The RF performance is second to none with the new switching antenna, so where my Android phone wouldn't have service at all, this thing can hold a full blown phone call.

I hope ICS and better hardware fixes some of these, but it still can't offer the 1-device iPod/phone solution that Apple can. However, I like being out of the rat-race that is Android with a new phone coming out every month and non-uniform upgrades. I know that I'll be getting OS upgrades for this phone for several years to come, so I can be done trying to figure out what to get next.

That being said, I miss the search capabilities of Android, I miss the auto-SMS uploading to GMail, I miss free Maps, native GMail and Calendar.

Overall, I got the 4S because all of my original complaints about the iPhone have either been fixed, or are similar problems on Android phones:

1. Battery life- much better on 4S, and it is better than equivalent Android phones.

2. Cost of data service- it's $5/mo less than it used to be, and Android phones are the same. So you're getting hit either way.

4. The keyboard sucks- so do Android keyboards, and there aren't any bleeding-edge Android devices with a keyboard.

5. Being tied to major carriers- Android is too.

6. Fragile screen- Android has that problem too, and worse in some cases.

7. Bad RF- That's been fixed with the 4, and improved upon with the 4S. The iPhone now has the distinct advantage.

8. Multitasking- iPhone has psudo-multitasking now that actually works better in most cases than true multi-tasking/ background processes.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
Well.. to each their own.. :cool:

You forgot one more advantage of the 4S over (at least) the captivate glide.

You've got root, and I still don't. :mad:

I tell you, if Google doesn't start laying down the law on manufacturers / carriers, a lot of us developers are going to jump ship the moment there's an option. This whole anti-root fiasco is really challenging Google's "do no evil" motto.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarlGalgano:
This is my 3rd android with a KB but first I bought from ATT. Milestone and Desire Z, both purchased unlocked. The big advantage of buying unlocked is ATT doenst know what you are using and cant block tethering/hotspotting. I rarely use it, but it is invaluable when I do (maybe a few times a month).

Like you, I cant use the hotspot feature. But I purchased "easy tether" from the market about 18 months ago when I had my milestone. I reinstalled it and it works fine on the Glide. It is not a convenient as a hotspot, but will do the job when I am stuck in an airport and need a connection.

I also agree with comments the KB is not that great. It is better than the OG Droid/Milestone keyboard, but not nearly as nice as the Desire Z. (its not even in the same zip code compared to just about any BBerry). But, it is serviceable and I am also getting used to it.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] studacris:
^^ all unlocking does is make the phone usable with another carriers Sim card, it does NOT "block" at&t from seeing anything.....unless of course you are using one of those other carriers, in which case that Carrier can tell what you're doing.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] clockwork58:
I have the Glide as well which I got last week from Rogers in Canada.

I think Lambgx02 and myself are in the same boat where we don't care if a mod community takes off for the device, we just want 1 person to develop a root for it!

I see suggestions for people saying try kernels for the Captivate S.

But I got a job at a place last week that works with mobile apps. When I use one of our tools to get Info on the Glide, it comes back saying it's a Samsung Nexus S 4G.

So would a kernel for a Nexus S 4G suit us better? I just don't know.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] studacris:
No, nexus is aosp based. Your phone is touch wiz.

Ext4/yaffs compared to rfs, not to mention the slide has a physical keyboard that the nexus doesn't, so even if by miracle it booted the keyboard, the main reason you bought it, would be unusable. And you would have no way to go back to the stock kernel.

Just all around a bad idea.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
I am new to the android world, but I would suspect kernels are fairly device-dependent. Things like keyboard/slider mechanism drivers would probably not be compiled into the kernel for devices without a keyboard, etc.

I'm afraid we may be stuck until Samsung releases the kernel. Or at least the source, which they're legally required to do. I'm getting impatient here, to be honest.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] tylerdurdin:
I am not posting this to be THAT guy.....but after reading all theze posts I can't help but think if things like Root and development is important to you why you would get this device. This phone in some ways is a very obscure release that may never see any real support possibly other than Root.

I understand that form factor and just liking a device is what actually makes you buy it....but if you like flashing and rooting and are not letting those things weigh on your decision then you may be getting left in the lurch. In short I am not ashamed of the fact that my love for flashing and what the Devs do here for us will always dictate my phone choice or at least narrow my field of choice. In the end I hope someone cracks that thing for you guys but if you don't see it happen soon you may want to exchange it for something a little more dev supported.

Sent from a HD2 ICS
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
Well, like I said... I'm new to the Android world. :(

I had no idea how hostile manufacturers have become toward their customers. I've been on an n900 for the past few years (since the day it came out), and while Nokia wasn't perfect, one thing they did not do is pretend the device isn't the 100.0% property of those who purchased them. Sudo installed out-of-the-box, and a single package from the main repository enabled a root shell.

Sure, I heard about such and such device is finally rooted! but to be honest I didn't pay much attention (my bad); I assumed it was just a matter of figuring out how to enable development mode, and not a question of locked bootloaders or active effort by manufacturers to lock their customers out of their own property.

I'm sorry for the rant, but it is quite... disturbing. I spent the last (almost) 20 years kernel hacking, installing, supporting, distributing and promoting Linux. Linux would not even exist today if yesterday's computers were designed with the limitations of today's mobile computers.

In any case, to me, the glide seemed like a spectacular device, and I thought it would be massively popular - an AMOLED screen, 2x1ghz chip, 1gb RAM and a qwerty KB.

I honestly had no idea that the market wasn't interested in keyboard phones anymore. That, too, is disappointing and quite confusing to me.

Ignorance on my part. :(

I thought a) the device would be very popular and b) getting root would be a matter of USB mounting /system and installing a 4755'd su. Little did I know...
[Samsung Captivate Glide] adamdipro:
I don't know about this, I think if the phone is released in europe, it will have a huge modding community. Look at the HTC Status, most North American audiences downplayed it as an entry level phone for teens because it had the facebook button, but if you check the XDA forums (HTC CHACHA) it has a flourishing community with a decent amount of support behind it.

People do love keyboard phones, and I think this is one of the better ones, give it time and modders will jump on board. Look at the Motorola Milestone, the thing even had a locked bootloader and a shoddy keyboard, and it still has a large community.

Give it time! I only got it a week ago at Rogers, and by judging by the posts here ATT has limited stock, so be hopeful people!
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
Indeed, the G1, the Milestone, the desire Z may not have have been the most high end devices but I still love my desire Z and switch to the glide just to have more processing power, I really hope someone will find a way to root it and Samsung play the game by releasing the kernel!!

I love this phone but I hate the crap providers put on it. I want my MIUI on this phone, hopefully root and CWM will be quickly achieved.

Let me also remind you that the main dev of CyanogenMod, Cyanogen himself, love keyboards, unfortunately he is on tmobile I believe ;)
[Samsung Captivate Glide] Hunt3r.j2:
Root should be pretty easy, assuming SuperOneClick works. If not, it should just be an Odin kernel flash to gain root.

The device should be pretty popular in the US, but I don't think you can expect massive amounts of development for it like the SGS2. You should probably see the same amount of development as the Atrix 4G received, albeit it'll take time.

---------- Post added at 08:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:41 PM ----------

Responses in bold.

In conclusion, while the iPhone 4s is good, it's certainly not great. iOS is starting to fall behind in UI and general design, the iPhone itself is in pretty dire need of a redesign to stay current and yes, a bigger screen. A 3.5 inch screen may work fine as just a feature phone, but the more you use your smartphone as a mobile computer, the bigger the screen you'll want.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] plasticman:
I love full keyboards - Am in the UK and I have an old Milestone (droid), am interested in this device and was/am considering importing it. Trouble is that there is very little full QWERTY options here - and at least everyone I know here seems to not care and the market is somewhat smaller it seems.

Droid 4 is another option I am considering, if the release date of 8th dec is true. The UK did not get the droid 3, so another import if I do it. I dont know it will work at the moment.

Might give up on a full keyboard soon and go with the crowd. Perhaps am just asking too much.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] daveb673:
I was debating between the iPhone 4S and the Glide, as there is a bluetooth keyboard slider/case available for the iPhone, but I couldn't pass up the price on the Glide, and it's got a bigger screen. :D

FYI: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1ZGX4VQH96WK1N71Z41A

Only 512MB RAM? Didn't realize that. Now I feel even better... The screen keypad is okay (works good for YNAB data entry), but the full keyboard is much better for note-taking.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] wildnux:
well said. I used to think most high end android has huge screen than needed, but after using captivate for a year and half, I find iphone's screen very small to get used to. It might be user's preference, but I would definitely go with bigger screen than high resolution stuffed in a tiny screen. :)
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
Did anybody tried or had a look at this kernel, same tegra2 same os and version: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1348857

when I compare the source from samsung there are some difference (ATT reference in the i927 one) but they are 99.99% similar
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
For myself, it's not the pixel density that's the issue, it's accuracy when tapping.

On my n900, I never felt I needed a bigger screen (and it's tiny); in fact, I would have preferred even higher density (ie. 1280x800); you can always increase font size. Tapping wasn't a problem because it was resistive and used a stylus.

With a capacitive screen, however, it can be really hard to tap the right place, especially if you're zoomed out or using small controls.

Personally I'd love a 4.5" screen; just needs big pockets. :)
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
I actually built the Samsung official kernel and tried to flash it with ODIN, but it looks like something has changed in the protocol implementation. ODIN failed halfway through sending/unpacking zImage, and actually (temporarily) soft-bricked my device.

I started to panic (since we have no way of recovering), but luckily booting into 3e recovery mode seemed to clear a "failed flash" flag.

I checked /proc/version and it's still using the stock kernel, so before we try anything else, we need to first solve the flashing problem. Maybe Heimdall would work.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
I tried to install this kernel and the flashing perfectly worked but after reboot, brick...

EDIT: Using odin 1.82

ardatdatis trying to compile and help me recover the phone, we will definitively keep you in the loop if it works !
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
If you want to give it a shot, here's the kernel I compiled from the stock Samsung I927 source (correctly version tagged).
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
Nop, yours fail before install
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
Well that's actually good news. It means that it's not necessarily a flashing problem, but some form of kernel validation that's failing.

I'll keep working on it and post additional kernels if you want. :)

Hope you get your device up and running again sooner though!

PS - Is it saying "flash failed" (or words to that effect), or black screening? Have you tried booting into recovery mode and rebooting from there?

EDIT

Actually, the kernel you originally flashed was called boot.img in the tar, not zImage... which is interesting.

You might want to try renaming my zImage to boot.img and flashing again.

2ND EDIT

On second thought, scratch that. It looks like boot.img is actually some combination of the kernel + a ramdisk. I'm trying to figure out how to generate this.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
I believe the ram disk information need to be extracted from an original boot.img (that we do not have). Check this theard: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1364740 ardatdat is trying to help me with my phone.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] ardatdat:
Hello, lambgx02, is your phone normal now?

Do you 'dare' to try another 'zImage' (without touching the boot.img nor ramdisk)?
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
Well, to be honest, I don't think it's possible to flash a kernel without the entire boot image. At least, ODIN can't seem to do it.

My phone's fine at the moment. :)
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
Ya, I think you're right. Not to mention the kernel parameters. Argh.

PS - that's my thread. :) But actually I didn't realize people are posting. Do the subscriptions work on xda-developer? Don't seem to get notifications.. :confused:
[Samsung Captivate Glide] ardatdat:
I see from other phones that we could purely flash the zImage thru Odin3. So I want someone brave enough to test it out :D
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
Well, that would be great news...

I did try flashing my kernel and it failed, leaving it temporarily soft-bricked (though entering 3e recovery seemed to clear the bad flash flag).
[Samsung Captivate Glide] ardatdat:
deleted.....
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
Ill try very soon

EDIT : TRIED and it fails on flash, it seems the all image is mandatory
[Samsung Captivate Glide] mikegy2002:
The string from the laptop or computer browser is reported to the carrier when you tether. If you use Firefox you can actually change the string so it appears to be from a mobile phone. Under tools you will see user agent. Just click on that. I believe Iphone is in there already. For other phones Google Firefox user agent.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
Do you know they're doing DPI at this layer?

That would be surprising. I mean, it's not unheard of to change the user agent on your mobile device to something PC-ish to get full site versions either.

In any case, a VPN would be a handy workaround.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] mikegy2002:
Certainly vpn can also be used to spoof the reporting. An example of a string to change user settings.

Mozilla/5.0 ( Linux; U; Android 2.3.4; en-US; SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 Build/GINGERBREAD) AppleWebKit/533.1(KHTML, like Gecko)Version/4.0 Mobile Safari?533.1
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
Samsung released the source for the i927R, Rogers version
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
ok, Samsung, I can not believe you are so bad... I just called Samsung asking them if they could provide me with the original firmware for the phone, I was clear and said I needed it to compile the kernel and test it on my phone.

Amazing competencies... next time I'll stick to HTC
[Samsung Captivate Glide] zouck90:
is it worthed upgrading to captivate glide from original cappy? thanks :)
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
It seems AT&T and Samsung are also using Carrier IQ, I just did a search in the kernel source of the I927 (Captivate Glide) and guest what:

#define US3_SI_CIQ_FLOW 0x00000120

...

#ifdef CIQ_SUPPORT

typedef struct wl_counter {

uint32 dw_bytes_sent;

uint32 dw_bytes_rcvd;

uint32 dwpkt_datasent;

uint32 dwpkt_datarcvd;

uint32 dwpkt_mgmtsent;

uint32 dwpkt_mgmtrcvd;

uint32 dwpkt_non_rctssent;

uint32 dwpkt_non_rctsrcvd;

uint32 dwpkt_rcts_sent;

uint32 dwpkt_rcts_rcvd;

uint32 dwpkt_crcerr_rcvd;

uint32 dwpkt_retry;

uint16 w_assoc_reject;

uint16 w_assoc_timeout;

uint16 w_auth_reject;

uint16 w_disassoc;

} wl_ciq_counter_t;

static uint16 ciq_assoc_reject_cnt = 0;

static uint16 ciq_assoc_timeout = 0;

static uint16 ciq_auth_reject_cnt = 0;

static uint16 ciq_disassoc_cnt = 0;

Is it just me or this CIQ could mean something else ?
[Samsung Captivate Glide] ardatdat:
How amazing is the conversation.... From the opensource web site, we know that it is operated by Samsung electronics. But they know nothing about it?

"This Samsung Open Source Community (“Website”) is operated by or on behalf of Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., whose principal place of business is at 416 Maetan-3dong, Yeongtong-gu, Suwon-si, Gyeonggi-do, 443-742 Korea (“We” or “Samsung”)....

....

....

If you have any questions or comments in relation to this policy, contact our customer services department at oss.request@samsung.com, before using the Website."
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
Honestly, I don't mean to be insulting to them (seriously), but generally speaking, most companies employ retarded people to operate first line support (literally retarded, as in IQ < 80).

It's sad, and I don't see how it's good for business, but it seems to be a thing with most companies these days.

I suspect I'm one of the few customers out there who is willing to pay big money to a company who employs reasonable, educated, competent people to answer the phone...

EDIT

I re-read this, and it sounds harsh. However, it is true; recently on a trip to the US, I had to contact T-Mobile support about a pay-per-use server issue they were having. The person I was speaking to did speak American English (fluently), but the sentences they constructed weren't... I'm not sure how to put this.. human. It was like talking to a computer, but I could hear them breathing. They said stuff like "trying to manage expectations" and "if I understand correctly, the problem you're calling about is <verbatim what I said>" etc... it was truly bizarre. It's not how humans naturally speak to each other..
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
It seems more and more people are worried about CarrierIQ:

http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-new...&utm_campaign=Feed:+pocketnow+(pocketnow.com)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/carrier-iq-what-it-is-what-it-isnt-and-what-you-need-to/

I strongly encourage you to read and contact Samsung and ATT to remove this from our devices
[Samsung Captivate Glide] daveb673:
I found it odd as I was browsing my device via QuickOffice, that it lists sd card, and when I tap that, I get a list of folders and my external sd card. Does anyone know if the Glide uses a micro-sd card for its internal memory?
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
I think it's an Android thing. They always consider "user storage" to be "sdcard" (mounted /mnt/sdcard).

It wouldn't be a physical SD card, but it may be the same flash cells; the device is MMC (/dev/block/mmc*).
[Samsung Captivate Glide] studacris:
You are correct sir
[Samsung Captivate Glide] KyleTroy:
NFC Glide Issues

Hi there, So I picked up my Captivate Glide about a week ago and I love it! But I seem to have problems opening any app from the market that uses NFC it kills the app instantly.

Any Suggestions?

Any updates on root?
[Samsung Captivate Glide] lambgx02:
NFC, not sure; I heard that we don't have an NFC chip, but the specs on gsmarena says we do. :confused:

Root, we're still working on. It is most certainly possible, but since Samsung hasn't released the firmware binaries, it's painstakingly slow work as we have no recovery path if something goes wrong.
[Samsung Captivate Glide] CarpeNoctem:
lambgx02, we have the firmware but the bootloader is not included. ardatdat told me that root can be injected using the "factoryfs.img" but we/he would need someone to try it on his device as I can not (my bootloader is messed up...)

Once we have root, we should be able to get the bootloader info and sa have a full functional kernel as the source for the i927R are available.

I insist on the "R" because the Canadian version do not include CarrierIQ spyware in the kernel