yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulser_g2:
You would be best to post in thunderbolt q&a about this
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nowetdio:
The ics port is still in the works. Many things are broken. Twisted and some other guys are working hard to get it done. Please try keeping up with the thread and be patient. Ics will come soon enough!!!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] what be up:
kk thx, but just fyi, i tried and earlier ics rom and it turned on.. so idk but i'll keep trying =P
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] satseaker:
it didn't turn on cause it is a wip, read over at rootzwiki
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] what be up:
uh.. what's a wip..? lol..
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RunNgun42:
Work in progress
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kidhudi:
hence the Alpha. you should expect things not to work.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bigal77:
Im currently using an infuse, also with 1750mah, can anyone confirm it takes same battery, since I have 2 official samsung ones.

Seems the same on video...but cant be to sure as i dont know dimensions

In a completely different type of question....

I noticed on new browser, you can easily switch to desktop mode in settings (e.g, opening google.com,click desktop rather than mobile version, it switches to desktop version of google) my question is, will it save this for future openings of the site? This way, when using search,will it open google desktop site?

Thank you !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chrono_Tata:
The Galaxy Nexus's battery has a NFC antenna on it, so no.

EDIT: For your second question it's unfortunately a no as well. I end-tasked the browser and on the next start up it's back to the mobile page. ):
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Indirect:
http://www.facebook.com/barnesandnoble/posts/10150466892360020

incase you can't get on facebook or something:

Use this tweet!

everyone we need to quickly work to get the bootloader of the nook unlocked time to #freethenook! Come on B&N Dont leave us hanging! @nookbn

Or come up with your own creative tweet with #freethenook

Would love some support. :)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] beatlesfan01:
Liked and commented.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] e.mote:
Suggest you keep it simple and concise. Remember the TL:DR rule for online posts. Second, keep it non-tech. Last, give specific examples of benefits. Example below.

To Barnes & Noble:

I love your Nook Color. I want to love your Nook Tablet, but can't, because it is hostile to me. You've locked it down, and I can't do cool things with it (see below for cool uses on the Color). Please unlock it and make your techie users happy. Thanks.

[insert links of cool NC stuff here, eg. running Shadowrun with a BT game controller, etc]
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] ecmasonjr:
Done and done, it was a pleasure to help.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Mycopsycho:
Liked and commented.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] orlandoxpolice:
done and done
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Nuenjin:
Hazzah! Hopefully it will get lots of comments and they will see our numbers.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Drewmungus:
Liked and commented. Dont forget to like other peoples comments too, Remember threatening to return makes us look like fairweather fans. If we instead point out how we can be help and great sales tool to them we have a better chance to get them to unlock it.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] borborpa:
Liked and commented.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] rootblock:
For non-facebook people, put up the #freethenook hashtag.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] VityaSmith:
Liked, and posted a long comment
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Indirect:
Wrote a quick tweet:

everyone we need to quickly work to get the bootloader of the nook unlocked time to #freethenook! Come on B&N Dont leave us hanging! @nookbn
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] mercado79:
Done. Thanks for rallying the troops (that includes me!).
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] alareth1976:
Liked and commented :)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] insanemongol:
Liked! this should be unlocked
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] acruxksa:
Liked and tweeted.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Wackjabbit:
liked, commented, tweeted.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] ddgarcia05:
Tweeted it.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] roustabout:
Does this thread mean we have confirmed that there is no fastboot on the Tablet, or that there is but it does not honor the oem unlock or similar commands? I'm not seeing anything definite yet?

That is, not just that the commands fail, but that people are actually sending commands to the fastbooted device - given the mixed reports on the existence/nonexistence of adb early on, bear in mind that fastboot requires that you're able to reach the device once you get it in the mode.

The values in the options flags can be dug out of device manager once a) you get the device into fastboot mode and b) you get a set of drivers that see it in fastboot mode.

Until I hear that the Tablet supports a full recovery to stock via a format of /system and /data and a completely clean install, not the crippled semi-recovery that many Android devices use, the Nook Color is probably worth at least three times what the Tablet is worth to me, since I'm 99% sure that I could softbrick it if there isn't a good onboard recovery.

To tempt folks to explore fastboot, here's the quick help output:

usage: fastboot [ <option> ] <command>

commands:

update <filename> reflash device from update.zip

flashall flash boot + recovery + system

flash <partition> [ <filename> ] write a file to a flash partition

erase <partition> erase a flash partition

getvar <variable> display a bootloader variable

boot <kernel> [ <ramdisk> ] download and boot kernel

flash:raw boot <kernel> [ <ramdisk> ] create bootimage and flash it

devices list all connected devices

reboot reboot device normally

reboot-bootloader reboot device into bootloader

options:

-w erase userdata and cache

-s <serial number> specify device serial number

-p <product> specify product name

-c <cmdline> override kernel commandline

-i <vendor id> specify a custom USB vendor id

-b <base_addr> specify a custom kernel base address

-n <page size> specify the nand page size. default:

2048
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] MrOtsKrad:
Sent to

Mary Ellen Keating,

Senior Vice President,

Corporate Communications & Public Affairs

telephone: (212) 633-3323

e-mail: mkeating@bn.com

To whom it may concern,

Since the release of the NookTablet I’m seeing and hearing from a lot of people jumping ship due to B&N misleading marketing. Its proclaimed "keeping it open" that your CEO was quoted as enforcing and advertised 16gb of storage both have been a seemingly deliberate farce.

The NookColor was made popular by the fact that it was easily recoverable and customizable, and through the community that supported the device your product accelerated past what you thought it would bring you. I personally bought 4 NookColors for these very reasons and gave one to my Mother, my grandmother and my sister. For the dying breed of Brick and Mortar book stores, this tablet could have put you above and beyond your competition had you kept to the same architecture of the NookColor in actually keeping it open. By locking Bluetooth, only allowing 1gb of 16gb to be used for personal data and icing the cake by locking the bootloader, you have shot yourself in the foot.

Personally I know loosing me as a customer will make so small of a marginal difference in your EOD, you might not notice, but how many customers like me can you afford to lose who talked you up to friends and family, to use and buy your products because they believed in a company and its practices, the type of viral marketing that made your previous tablet such a success, brought you out of the 80s and into the market you are in now.

I do hope that you rethink your policies on the devices you sell. And at the end of the day, it is your decision to make, but its my job and responsibility as a consumer to bring these things to your attention.

With sincerest and kindest regards,

Steven T Caputo
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] blueridgemornings:
Not tech-savvy... no broadband... no wifi... no cell service... no facebook... no tweet... sent email to customerservice@bn.com

Thanks

blueridgemornings
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] silentheero:
Just did my share! Hope this works. I can't see how it hurt them to have an unlocked bootloader on the NC so that they would do this to the tablet. It only increased sales to have such an open device.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Entropy512:
No one has looked to see if fastboot is there or not - even if it is, you can't flash a kernel that hasn't been signed by B&N without bricking the device.

If the processor weren't locked, you wouldn't even need fastboot - the OMAP4430 can even directly boot off of USB. (pokey9000 confirmed that USB booting is working and enabled, but the problem is that if you try to boot an unsigned image, the boot process will fail and the CPU will go to the next boot peripheral on the list.)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Texx-it:
Done!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] discothan:
I think there is a DEV thread for 'bootloader unlock' that suggestions can be posted to.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Indirect:
Ill look into fastboot and just see what errors it throws out. I wish we could get a dev version of the bootloader to take off security checks.

Sent by breaking the sound barrier
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Caterwaul03:
Short and non-tech, huh? All right.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] rootblock:
Let us know if you get a reply, and let us know what they say.

I once emailed another manufacturer regarding a similar concern I had regarding bootloaders and custom ROMs, but never got a reply. I ended up returning that product at the end of my 15 day return window. To this day, still no reply [months later]. No sweat off my brow. A shame. Was a solid product too, hardware-wise...
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Tel864:
Like and commented on.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] KCKitsune:
I also went to the link, Liked, and made my comment. I just hope that B&N unlocks the boot loader. If they do, then I'll get one. If they don't I'll keep my Nook Color and wait for ICS.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] :
Good idea :) Tweeted it
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Mycopsycho:
The reply I received from Barnes and Noble:

Dear ...,

Thank you for writing to us about the NOOK Tablet.

At Barnes & Noble, we take pride in offering our customers efficient and

friendly service and we apologize that we failed to meet your

expectations on this occasion.

We are deeply troubled that this issue has caused so much distress to

you, and feel that we owe you our deepest apologies for the

inconvenience that this matter has caused.

We will raise your concern to the appropriate people, and assure you

that the issues you raised will be addressed. We strive to maintain a

high standard of excellence in everything we do, and your feedback will

certainly enable us to review our service commitment at our B&N customer

service.

Please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have

caused. We value your patronage and we hope that you will allow us the

opportunity to continue to serve you in the future.

We hope you find this information helpful.

Have a wonderful day.

Sincerely,

Maria

Customer Service Representative - Digital Support

Barnes & Noble​
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Indirect:
Mind showing the email you sent as well for clarity?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Entropy512:
Classic form letter... :(
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] rootblock:
Nice. I already have more respect for BN. Not to say that their next response won't be "we're sticking to our bootloader policy", but at LEAST they give some sort of initial feedback, unlike that other manufacturer I have tried to contact in the past...

Nevertheless, the locked bootloader is the only thing preventing me from picking one of these up. Let's hope they give us a solution!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Nuenjin:
Yeah, this sounds like customer no-service run around to me. Maybe if they had more nooks returned on Black Friday than purchased they might take notice.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] oldsmobuick:
Done and done. Thanks.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] yourbrokenoven:
Doubt they'll unlock it. The prospect of losing a sale to another app market, or to Kindle's library, or Google Books probably is plenty to make them want to keep it locked down.

It's a shame. I wouldn't bother worrying about this if B&N's app store had anything worthwhile in it, and charge $3 for a $1 app.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] antonyfl:
Retail Service customerservice@bn.com
10:07 AM (11 hours ago)

to me
Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting us.

We have received your inquiry regarding unlocking the bootloader of the
NOOK Tablet.

We are always eager to provide information on our services and the
selections we offer online. However, the questions you have posed are
beyond the scope of the information that we provide to the general
public. We are not allowed to give any information regarding the
bootloader of the NOOK Tablet. Therefore, we are unable to answer your
questions.

We regret any disappointment this may cause, and wish you well in your
endeavors.

:( we should ask them questions via email and flood it.... lol
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] twodollaz:
You know, I was just reading over this thread and got some consolation that they are wishing us well in our endeavors. It's good to know that even if they don't support us, they wish us well.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] rbellis:
I will def be doing this NOW!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] jpinks:
Done I hope it helps
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] blueeyedsusan:
posted, hope it helped. Taking out personal info
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] CW927:
Returned my Nook Tablet last Thursday due to the locked bootloader. I bought one as they were released and I was at the 14 day limit for returns. I might even buy and return a couple more if the bootloader isn't unlocked.

I simply stated that "It doesn't meet my needs" when they asked why I was returning it. An employee who was working behind the counter declared that I was crushing their souls by returning the NT.

Might have to write a letter to the CEO, William J. Lynch, Jr., explaining my disappointment. His experience with Palm might even make him more likely to understand the issue.

Yes, I think the old fashioned letter might help. B&N Corporate offices:

122 Fifth Avenue

New York, NY 10011

I'll be drafting a letter this afternoon.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] nycbjr:
Done (on facebook)

I couldn't agree more with this post, I think BN is shooting themselves in the foot, half the reason the Nook Color was a success was its ability to be turned into a reasonably functional Honeycomb tablet, and the other custom fun it had.

It will still be successful no doubt, we in this community represent a very small portion of sales of these devices. But its the word of mouth, this forum, and google results that help influence the buying habits of the public, when someone see's BN Locks bootloader in the top of the google results for a search of Nook Tablet, they might think twice.

Heres to hoping we find a way around the locked loader, or BN comes to there senses.

I will not buy this or a kindle (for other reasons, no card slot and 8gb? yuck) until the boot loader issue is resolved, and I really really want a 7" tablet!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] HMG10:
The only 2 things kindle has going for it are 1) Price and 2) unlocked bootloader. I would think B&N would want to unlock it just to remove #2. Most people won't know what to do with an unlocked bootloader, and everyone that does know what to do with it already has access to google market and amazon already.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] F14Scott:
This is the best and most succinct analysis of the situation I have read.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] hookedonnook:
Done...lets do it!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] cfoesch:
I was thinking about this myself. In order to ensure that you have a secure product, you have to ensure it ships as secure as it could possibly be. As in, no bugs, no flaws, no workarounds. Obviously, sort of the Shuttle Programming Team, no one has ever made bug free code. (Not even Knuth!)

So, it's just a matter of time until we find a bug in the bootloader process and can exploit it. Sure, B&N is making us spend time figuring it out, but it's like, you have to assume that they know that they didn't write perfect bug-free code. So, why really bother? Unless you're going to obsess about securing it, as much as we're obsessed about unlocking it, you're not going to win. Because once it ships to us, _WE_ have control. (Until you push a silent OTA, and freak everyone out. But then _WE_ get paranoid, and start moving to block any access B&N could want to _OUR_ products.)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] lavero.burgos:
That's a better idea the social thing ill do both facebook n tweeter and will ask the guys from LG GT540 forum to help with this as well, we need massive messages I think.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] CuriousTux:
Here's what I wrote from twitter

@BNBuzz @nook_Care @nookbn #freethenook! why take away features with a software update unlock the bootloader so we can have choice back
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Mangala_Dharma:
Transformer Prime comminity got vocal about the bootloader wich was locked, just got statement from asus they are gonna provide tool for unlock. Was " to protect drm content from providers ", will loose some content and warranty.. If they can do it.. :-)

Sent from my LG-P500 using Much Love
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] iferlive:
Done and done
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] TabletGeek:
commented & liked.

By unlocking the bootloader, B&N has the opportunity to provide a great tablet that is also an eReader with potential for additional content sales. At this point, in order to prevent further unwanted OTA updates, now we have a great tablet with no further opportunity to purchase from B&N. ...seems to be not the best decision for B&N to force their NT customers to purchase elsewhere in order to avoid unwanted changes to our property.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] TabletGeek:
Why was my B&N NT review blocked??

B&N sent me an email, requesting that I write a review of the Nook Tablets I purchased. I wrote the review shown below, but they would not post the review. Instead I received this message: "Your Review is no longer visible by others because it contains inappropriate language which violates our Terms of Use."

I've read B&N's terms of service, but I do not see where my comments are in violation. Can anyone suggest what I should remove in order to get my rating published?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] shawner47:
My first guess would be the references to the Kindle. It's either that or they are just going to suppress any bad reviews of the product or anything that gives customers any inkling that the NT can be modified to do anything other than what B&N wants it to do.

JM2C
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] css771:
Tweeted the message. Hope they get around to it. It will affect their sales if they don't.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] darkquota:
Possibly, but it seems to be just a weird automated censoring mechanism they are using. People who have written good reviews are told their review has inappropriate language as well. Check out the "What's with BN?" thread in the B&N NT General forum.

Not everything is a conspiracy :p
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] sgschwend:
I tried to go to BN to read their document, but their pages aren't loading presently. At least not for me. Anyway perhaps they have a word count limit that is not specific but can be used when needed.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] TabletGeek:
I realize that my review was a bit wordy; but the character count limit is imposed at the time of posting (the post will not even be accepted initially for review if word count is exceeded). So this should not be the issue. I have seen many other reviews that mentioned Kindle and I have seen other reviews that mentioned rooting the Nook Tablet also; so I have no idea why the moderators blocked my review.:confused:

The crazy thing is that some reviews that praise the Nook Tablet as "5 Stars" have a 1-star rating and some reviews that say "this is a piece of junk" have 5-star ratings. So no one actually seems to be reading the reviews... Still, I do think it is important marketing feedback for B&N to understand their customer's feedback in this regard. It is just frustrating that B&N makes this so difficult.:mad:
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
just curious to see your reasoning...

:)
[Kindle Fire General] Pitnefor:
Bought both and returned the nook tablet.

the NT was far too restrictive.. they lock you down into their little world.

At least with the fire I have some options
[Kindle Fire General] Unheard:
Cheaper, its amazon, oh and the boot loader isn't locked.
[Kindle Fire General] butterflygirl:
Instant video app.

I have other tablets with more storage and functionality, but they don't stream Amazon instant video without some stuttering.

Still haven't decided if this is enough for me to keep the tablet.
[Kindle Fire General] yelvington:
Because ....

... my wife ordered it before the Nook tablet was announced. But now that both are public, I'm happier with the (fairly open) Kindle than I would be with the (locked down) Nook.
[Kindle Fire General] Printerscape:
I'm an Amazon Prime member, and the ecosystem Amazon provides is much better than Barnes and Noble.
[Kindle Fire General] kidujp:
The only tablet out there that plays Netflix,Amozon VOD and stream espn3 without issues. Also like the UI. It does what I need it for with minimum of screwing around and now that I have rooted and installed market and side loaded some apps, it's perfect for my needs.

This is from a guy who has bought or used most of the tablets that has come around recently including i pad. I bought one for wife initially and ended up getting one for myself.
[Kindle Fire General] ponyoninja:
I'm a amazon prime member, so easy choice for me! also I enjoy the form factor of the kindle better than the nook (what in the world is that little hole for?)
[Kindle Fire General] CrackMonkey91:
Price and I have always wanted a kindle
[Kindle Fire General] katsuraj:
Mainly the build quality of the device it feels solid in hand as oppose to the flimsy feel of the nook tablet. I don't like the extra weight of having a case so the kindle fire is perfect and also the unlock bootloader.
[Kindle Fire General] daggy1985:
The interface, the entire experiance. I like that amazon is truely offering a different experiance and bundled it in all in a nice package. I mean, no offence to other manufactures, but I feel like amazon really brought something to the table that is truely unique. I mean look at the vast options of honeycomb tablets, or gingerbread tablets, their all pretty much the same, they may have some skins on top, but underneath their all just the same old interface, don't get me wrong, I love android, but what amazon has done is organize everything that I do into a neat package. I can click on a section for the launcher and I am presented with specific content, I love that if I want to catch up on some shows, I can click the videos tab, or play a game click on my apps tab, and from there I can quickly access the app store, it all just makes sense to me. :)
[Kindle Fire General] mewshi:
I have about 300 dollars worth of Kindle books. Simple as that, really.
[Kindle Fire General] pedroren:
Before the Nook Tablet announcement I pre-ordered the Kindle:

-Price (I even bought the cover with a $20 credit)

-All my Kindle books available out of the box, without waiting for a root or hack

-Easier to buy from Amazon, free two-day shipping as a Prime
[Kindle Fire General] cheetablaze:
Best buy gave me a 50$ dollar gift card by accident.
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
pitnefor, in which way?
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
guys when i went to bestbuy, netflix was laggy. it seems to be that way on the reviews i've watched too. plus, they've achieved full root with the nook. the bootloader point still stands though...what about the gig of ram, and one piece screen?