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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeriz:
If you do then get a bunch of different materials from soft plastic to shards of glass or hard steel. start with the softest and work your way up don't use to much pressure. Then report back. It sure would be interesting to find out what it really takes to make a scratch :-)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] edanfalls:
Can you provide a source for this?

Everything I've read cites the S-Pen/Wacom tech as being capacitive: example.

Wacom's own tablets are mostly inductive, but that's another matter.

(I'm not confusing inductive with resistive; both are pressure sensitive but I am aware of the difference between the two.)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeriz:
They are ALL inductive thats how wacom digitizers work. And im typing this using my lenovo x61t pen :)

Edit: its early here and the kids have to be taken to school, ill se if i can find a sorce later.

And the link you provided does not count its just a text by some random dude that probably never even held the device in his hand
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] EarlZ:
Im guessing steel would easily scratch the coating and sand would actually scratch the glass.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] edanfalls:
I know it's a dodgy source, but that's the thing - all I can find are dozens of dodgy sources saying it's capacitive!

Intuitively it's obvious that the S-Pen responds to pressure, that's the whole point of it. I had just assumed that way it responds to pressure is down to the S-Pen itself - i.e. due to the construction of the tip, it provides a greater surface for capacitive reaction when pushed down harder. If that makes sense.

I thought there'd be some more technical details out there but I can't seem to find anything.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Livewings:
Chill. I dropped the screen and cracked it. :D

Now it's repaired, and scratch gone.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] foxmeister:
The screen *is* capacitive. The S-Pen and the digitizer are inductive - that's how the pen gets it's power - via electromagnetic induction.

If you take your S-Pen apart you will find it has an induction coil inside which generates power as the pen is moved around the magnetic field generated by the Note. It is not a "dumb" capacitive stylus, which is self evident because it has an "active" button, but it also has no battery or power source except for the induction coil.

This post is a great source of info on the S-Pen.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] edanfalls:
I was referring to the Wacom digitizer being cited as capacitive everywhere on the web, not the screen.

I'm not saying it's capacitive!! I'm just struggling to find any reliable links...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeriz:
"Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer. Under the tablet's surface (or LCD in the case of the Cintiq) is a printed circuit board with a grid of multiple send/receive coils and a magnetic reflector attached behind the grid array. In send mode, the tablet generates a close-coupled electromagnetic field (also known as a B-field) at a frequency of 531 kHz. This close-coupled field stimulates oscillation in the pen's coil/capacitor (LC) circuit when brought into range of the B-field. Any excess resonant electromagnetic energy is reflected back to the tablet. In receive mode, the energy of the resonant circuit’s oscillations in the pen is detected by the tablet's grid. This information is analyzed by the computer to determine the pen's position, by interpolation and Fourier analysis of the signal intensity. In addition, the pen communicates other vital information, such as pen tip pressure, side-switch status, tip vs. eraser orientation, and the ID number of the tool (to differentiate between different pens. mice, etc.). For example, applying more or less pressure to the tip of the pen changes the value of the pen's timing circuit capacitor. This signal change can be communicated in an analog or digital method. An analog implementation would modulate the phase angle of the resonant frequency, and a digital method is communicated to a modulator which distributes the information digitally to the tablet. The tablet forwards this and other relevant tool information in packets, up to 200 times per second, to the computer."

Got this from wikipedia (i know wiki doesn't count as reliable :-) ) it seem to be a pretty good description of the tech
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] maxh:
In other words, the screen is capacitive, just like other capacitive screens, for working with your finger. It also has inductive technology embedded in it for working with the s-pen (this is the wacom technology.) Electricity flows through coils of wire in the screen to create magnetic fields that are picked up by the coils in the pen, providing power for the pen as well as location data. Pressure sensitivity is done in the pen by how hard the tip is pressed into the pen. The pen then transmits all of this info (location and pressure) back to the screen with the energy it harvested in its coils, sent from the screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ankydu:
I was just wondering could it be that the earlier batch of note was w/o gorilla glass and the newer batches have got it and hence now updated on corning's website.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeriz:
There is no way to tell unless Samsung makes an official statement (not likely) or if you get an old and a new note and perform a Rockwell test. But it might be necessary to test several phones to compensate for variations in the material (i know nothing about how gorilla glass is manufactured so it might not be necessary) I don't have the semolians required but if there is a really bored millionaire with a passion for test engineering lurking in the shadows on xda i sure would like to read about it :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeriz:
Troll ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] reddogdog:
Corning updateded the list

I just wonder why your Note has no gorilla .....

Accroding to the list :

Samsung: Behold II, Captivate, Continuum, Corby S3650, Corby W900, Epic 4G, Fascinate, Flight II, Focus, Focus™ Flash (US AT&T), Galaxy A, Galaxy Ace, Galaxy Note, Galaxy S, GALAXY S II, Galaxy S 4G, Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Lindy, Mesmerize, Monte, Monte Preston, Omnia HD, Omnia W, S8500 WAVE, Showcase, Trance, Transform, Ultra TOUCH S8300, Vibrant, Wave II
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] XXRay:
Crack

Was just outside and my Note slided out of my pocket when I was bend and gently fell on the pavement from 20cm height. It apparently hit a little tiny stone and a scratch in the lower right corner as a result, It went inside and wiped it clean with a cloth and thought okay I can life with it. Then suddenly 5 minutes later I heard a cracking sound looked on the phone and 3mm below the scratch the glass just broke in 2 pieces, still together though. I guess when it is that size it is like the windshield of your car, I have seriously doubts about the quality of the glass because it was really a gentle fall.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] vishram:
Samsung Note is indeed with the Gorilla Glass

Well friends, lets close this issue and probably this thread :)

Corning website has it! check it at

corninggorillaglass. com/products-with-gorilla/samsung

Hope this helps!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] reddogdog:
I don't think gorilla is bullet proof, or can fell from height .

Just keys or coins proof only.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] loonsy:
Same for me have dropped my phone several times facecdown, plastic has scratches and chips on it, screen is untouched.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] NuDroid:
Well i wonder if it's really Gorilla Glass powered.

I had 5 scratches after a few days and ultimately bought a protection film.

The screen didn't see any keys, coins, blades, whatever on its face.

I am careful with my gear and treated my previous phone (HTC Legend) same way and never had any problem with it. No scratches after one year and a half.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] benrees21:
Official Samsung tear down mentions nothing about Gorilla Glass.

http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=10571

Spat out from my Nexus S!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DPMAce:
Crap. I dropped my HD2 plenty of times, and no cracks. Is Samsung quality really better than HTC?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] maxh:
Samsung has positively stated from their twitter account that the Note does have Gorilla Glass, and Corning's website now says so, too.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] darkmax1974:
HTC sucks.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] edanfalls:
Congratulations. Probably the least useful post I've ever seen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] benrees21:
OK. I'm not trying to disprove anything, I just thought they would of mentioned it in the tear down.

Spat out from my Nexus S!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] parthpatels007:
it certainly does have a hardened glass for sure! coz my note slipped from my hand and fell on my table's square edge with the screen down maybe from 1 feet :( there's just a tiny dent on the glass, nothing more! if it was an ordinary glass, it would have cracked the screen for sure :\ (y)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeriz:
Topic has been disproved I vote that it's locked before any more trolls appear
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] naimmkassim:
+1..no more trolls..thanks mod!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DPMAce:
+1

HD2 was a good phone. Especially for its time.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] senbel:
nine too got scratched in less than two weeks of use... gsmarena listed the US Note will have gorilla glass...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] yees-no:
Lets say its Gorilla

Definitely its not a perfect screen

used Iphone4 over 1 year and still until this day no any scratch ( I mean a normal use dont drop it or something)

In my opinion

Samsung big monster of performance but ...

Quality is ****

if they just care more about the materials that made from it could be an Epic phones.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] EarlZ:
I had a scratch on my first screen and considering how i wad very careful with it i was not impressed. The 2nd one i have now as actuallu taking a lot of abuse and im no longer using a pouch and ive even placed it with my keys in the pocket no scratches yet but the chome bezel is collecting scuff marks.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jeriz:
You can't compare screen scratch resistance in this way it is totally inaccurate for instance it has a bigger screen so every time you put it In your pocket it will have to endure xx% more potentially harmful particles. That alone would reduce the time it takes until the first scratches appear and there are likely to be many more factors that differ and are not related to screen quality. The only way you could make a comparison like that are if you put them side by side and measure the pressure it takes to make a scratch and you have to make several tests to make it statistically significant.

However i do agree to the second part of your post
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
iphone is reknown for it's low quality build.

I have seen numerous shattered iphone screens.

There's nothing wrong with the Note screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ph00ny:
Perceived quality vs actual quality

As long as the device doesn't exhibit chassis flex and all the right locations are reinforced, i'm more than ok with plastic.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] MarcinXDA:
I really think that gnote has gorilla glass, why? Because as I remember it's written on box. I don't have box with me so maybe someone could check it?

sent from GT-N7000: RocketRom V20.

(thanks eybee)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] xdadJeroen:
My little brother has an s2 and managed to completely **** up his screen, he swears he only had an old iphone next to it in his pocket( but somehow he always manages to destroy everything he gets his hands on)

I always had an Hd2 in my pocket without protection (never had something else in my pocket maybe paper) and the screen is still looking perfect after 2 years. i'm going to do the same with my Note but if i have to believe my little brother the Galaxy-screens aren't the same Gorilla as in my HTCHD2, what do you guys think?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
So far, the Note screen seems exactly the same as my HD2, not a scratch on it.

The increased area might make it more vulnerable to being smashed, but it seems the same in scratch resistance and toughness.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] KaranKapoor:
Gorilla glass or not, the screen scratches pretty easily. I've never dropped my phone and take very good care of it and somehow I have managed to get scratches on the screen. I'm disappointed!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] naimmkassim:
Although its already confirm in corning web site, the Note do have gg..but many user still complain their screen get scratch..here the theory and speculation..some of your owner do have gg n some dont. You know why? Cos the mnager of production and their qa want to cost down and get profit from it. They had loose the inspection..lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] vaud27:
i emailed samsung and they replied that samsung galaxy note does have gorilla glass. sucks i can't post the print screen i made from my phone
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] TML1504:
can some mod please close this thread, as

IT'S CONFIRMED BY CORNING SINCE A FEW DAYS THAT THE NOTE HAS GORILLA GLASS!!!

LOOK HERE:

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/samsung
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
Mine has gorilla glass in the front, and crocodile leather on the back

It is as light as a kolibri, and has as much juice as a camels bunch

I guess you can call it a BEAST of a phone :p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Cr4z33:
I am coming from a choppy Samsung Omnia HD and I never had the need to use a screen protector.

Yesterday I couldn't believe there was a lalalalaing screwdriver-like scratch on my expensive Phablet!

Wtf?? :confused::eek:

'Gorilla Glass' my a**e you Samsung people!?

I use to store it in my pocket and there's no keys, coins or whatever other metal object.

As soon as I find a white complete housing I will (unfortunately) have to put a screen protector... :mad:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
You should stop looking at blondes while having the phone in your pocket.....:D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Cr4z33:
Lol nice thought, but no it wasn't that. :p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] KaranKapoor:
Cool it man. Yes, it does have GG. Regardless of that, I have scratches on mine and I keep it in prestine condition!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] apprentice:
I wish there was reinforced glass on the camera lens! This is often neglected and with the Note the lens has little protection as it isn't recessed enough from the case.

Next time you take a photo and wonder why it isn't perfect, don't forget to wipe off finger marks and check for scratches.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] schizo:
+1. I also got scratches on my razr screen while only putting it in my pocket with my handkerchief.... :mad:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] foxmeister:
Get the flip case - it is necessarily a little deeper than the original back cover, so the camera ends up being recessed.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] apprentice:
Thanks Dave. I already have the flip case and you're right it does a better job. I just posted this to warn others.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Derzis:
so what is the use of Gorilla Glass if it still scratches?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] foxmeister:
It is better a resisting scratches than ordinary glass!

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ngocdao:
ROFL @ new title.

It's tough, not invincible.
[Hero CDMA General] dastin1015:
As some of you may know TrevE has helped to discover CIQ problems that were prevalent throughout a plethora of devices. Due to his efforts to educate us in what was going on in our devices CIQ has now issued a C&D to him. I urge you all to read this article and please help spread the word: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/carrier-iq-sues-treve/
[Hero CDMA General] Majin101:
Ahh i remember this ciq issue. Im glad xda is fighting back
[Nexus S General] Rooster85:
So my nexus decided it wanted to stop working all of the sudden...... 4G works just fine but 3g will not work nor can i text or make calls. This happened out of nowhere as well not right after i flashed anything. I tried unrooting and re rooting but the problem still persists.... any ideas?

Sent from my Kushed Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S General] jaestreetss:
*228 and yuur phone will reconnect its self

Or call sprint but don't say anything about rooting
[Nexus S General] Rooster85:
Tried that but still nothing..... it just hangs on the activation screen.

Sent from my Kushed Nexus S 4G
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Irishdoom:
I've had the G2X since release. It was my first smartphone, and so maybe I wasn't entirely sure what to expect. (I probably still don't have a real idea.) I've had the freezing/rebooting problems since about 2 weeks in. There are times it just won't "wake up" or just automatically reboots itself. I'm way outside buyer's remorse, obviously, so what kind of options to I have? Can I still get the phone replaced by T-Mo, to hopefully get one that has less reboot issues?

In case you were wondering, I have modded the phone to see if other ROMs would fix the issue, but they have not. It seems like the freezing issue will be gone for a short time after wiping and flashing a new ROM, but then a couple of weeks later it's back to how it was. Any advice? Maybe try to trade it out on CL or something?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mackster248:
You have one year of manufacture warranty from the time you buy it. I suggest you call T-Mobile and ask for a replacement.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jboxer:
You didn't mention if you did the GB upgrade and the new baseband. If you are really tired of it just send it to me in Thailand free. I can use another phone for testing rom builds. :-)
[T-Mobile LG G2x] Irishdoom:
Hah, I did do the official GB upgrade before I started putting ROMs on it. I was basically hoping that would fix my issues, but it didn't, so then I started in on ROMs. Currently running the latest Weapon, which I like, but the reboots/freezes are wearing on me. I'll try to call T-Mo.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] jboxer:
The phone is defective. Get it swapped out under your warranty. Mine has only rebooted and sod once the entire time I have owned it. Occasional reboots and sod are normal for Android (usually a bogus app running havoc on the system). If you have frequent problems you have something wrong with your device. If you have tried running stock without installing programs and still have problem you definitely need to do a warranty replacement pronto. When you get your new one run it a few days without adding any apps to make sure it is okay. Then add apps slowly so if one starts causing problems you can pinpoint down easier and zap it off your phone. When the G2X is running correctly, it is one of the best Android devices on the market today.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Markieboy:
Hi all.....

I have a rooted desire that is S-OFF,

I have flashed lot of ROMS (Im using CM7 partition)

and the phone just keeps locking and needs battery pulling,

mainly when i receive calls..??

Any suggestions or ideas I can try people???

Thanks for any help offered!!!!:D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bortak:
1. give us more detail

2. boot into recovery, go to:

\mounts & storage

>format boot

>format system

>format data

>format cache

>format sd-ext

3. Reflash your ROM.

4. Does not work? Defenestrate your phone.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Markieboy:
Thanks for reply,yes i always do a clean fresh install ,so i format SD and wipe Dalvik etc,im now thinking it could possibly be the radio as its not one of the latest....

But because im S-OFF i cant flash it in the normal way,If i flash back from Cm7r2 partition to the standard HBoot one, will i be able to flash the radio ZIP via Recovery again??

Many thanks..
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bortak:
or you could just flash the .img via fastboot.. it's much safer, there links to radios on my guide.. but it's unlikely it'd be the radio.. could give it a try though I suppose..
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bhundven:
Variants

eollie: AntonX's BwaT + Stock Rom

Stock_KJ6_+_root-One-Click.jar (this has the blastoff v2.5 kernel)

AntonX: Basic with a Twist SGS4G KJ6 1.1.0

AntonX-Basic_with_a_twist-v1.1.0-OC_UV.jar

AntonX-Basic_with_a_twist-v1.1.0-NO_OC_UV.jar

Hampsterblade: [KERNEL] Basic MIUI modified

hampsterblade-Basic_MIUI_Kernel_r2_OC_UV.jar

hampsterblade-Basic_MIUI_Kernel_r2_NO_OC_UV.jar
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] TheKucho:
Nice! Good work.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] AdamOutler:
Downloading now, If it works properly I'll have a mirror on the Team Komin server for you and I can send this device back. BTW... UnBrickable Mod team have nothing to do with Heimdall One-Click... That's Benjamin Dobell for Heimdall and Me for the One-Click and One-Click packager.

There's no need to RAR the JAR file. The firmware contained within is packaged in a superior tar.gz and a jar file is actually a zip.. It's already double compresed.

Just as a tip, I generally include the SBL2 in a flash. I don't know which devices use it, but it's supposed to ensure a valid SBL is on a device. It's safer and provides a total restore if you know you have a good SBL unlike the KG2 firmware package. I see there's no SBL2 in the detail tab. This is what happened to me today with KG2 bootloaders...

1mmunications established�� X4 &c1 E1 Q0
-----------------------------------------------------------
Samsung Primitive Bootloader (PBL) v3.0
Copyright (C) Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. 2006-2010
-----------------------------------------------------------

+n1stVPN 2688
+nPgsPerBlk 64
+n1stVPN 3008
+nPgsPerBlk 64
ERROR.. Bootable SBL doesn't exist ..

Other than that, it's working great!

I repackaged with the SBL2 after I verified the package is working properly. It will be available here in aproximately 26 minutes from this post. http://files.teamkomin.com/t959-SGS4G/T959V-UVKJ6-One-Click.jar

I just realized I post jacked, sorry.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bhundven:
I think I'm fine with hosting on sourceforge. You can mirror it if you want.

Thanks for pointing that out! I did resurrect a few times (Mostly stupid mistakes. You do stupid things when you know you can recover. ;) ), so I wanted to give credit, or it would not have been possible for me to learn more about how to make mistakes so others don't have to.

Thank you for the tip! I'll host the jar from now on.

The problem is, samsung has never packaged an sbl2 with any leak or official package.

I had some weird problems when I wrote the sbl2, so not writing it makes me feel safer.

Thanks! I'm hoping to get more things done soon. I'm having some personal life issues that are rightfully taking my time, but I get little bursts to work on projects when I can. You however, are a machine! Keep up the good work, man!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] AdamOutler:
^^ I edited while you were posting. the code block shows why you should write the SBL2. Normally it's either empty or it has a duplicate SBL. If you're using a good SBL it's safe. If it's a bad SBL, then it's not safe. It's less safe to not have an SBL2 on a device in general though. If you switch to something like CM7, you won't have an SBL2. When you switch back to stock the SBL2 has to be flashed back or it's still missing on devices that have it.

I've already begun uploading. It's 1/2 way there and will be on the TK server in ETA 13 minutes 11 seconds. It has the SBL2 included and I verified everything works fine.

btw.. repackaging is a breeze. change the jar to a .zip file and then go to /com/AdamOutler/HeimdallOneClick/resources/ROMPackage/ the tar.gz is right there and you can open it in heimdall.