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[G2 and Desire Z General] Vauvenal7:
Well, the tendency of todays smartphones go to bigger screens

Now imagine a phone with a big ass screen plus a keyboard:

It will be big, and fat, and heavy as f**k

If they where to revert back to smaller screens (up to 4.3" highest) it would be okay again to have a keyboard

But somehow i dont see that happen in near future :/

Greets Vauvenal7

Sent from my HTC MyTouch_4G_slide
[G2 and Desire Z General] JayGreeny:
I won't disagree with you about the screen size+ keyboard issue. Some of the older motorola phones with keyboard were huge and clunky. However, I do think that the recent trend for manufactures to release a slightly smaller version of their flagships phones, the S4 Mini and the One Mini come to mind, both with 4in screens could lend themselves to a hardware keyboard. The DZ is about 4", and while slightly heavier and thicker than the Desire, it's worth the trade off.

I'm also not one of those people who are blessed with hands that can comfortably manhandle a large-screened device, so ~4" is perfect for me to use one handed. Spun 90`, it's a little small to see what you're doing and type on screen at the same time; or at least to me being used to full keys, but I do think any smaller would certainly come with usability issues. The ~4" market seems to lend itself very well to devices sporting a hardware keyboard, as far as I can see.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] KingVekxin:
Well I am running the latest Cm7 on my infuse with USAS tweaks applied, I seem to be having time issues. Since the usas was flashed my network time is ahead by one hour for some reason? And I tried to reflash Cm7 to fix it and that failed horribly and I song really know how to uundo tweaks, if some one knows let me know please :(
[Samsung Infuse 4G] THE festivedonkey:
If you go over to general, I posted a topic about a way to fix it!

Edit: not exactly a "Fix" but a way to get the correct time synced to the phone
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jmkhenka:
Saw a post on theverge, someone has ported ICS to transformer and making this the first tablet with a ics-port.

Much is not working, there is a youtube link in the artikle: http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/21/...fficial?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[Eee Pad Transformer General] zillah1985:
I am going to wait until ASUS throws the official update my way, but just a few glimpses makes me giddy.

The browser loaded a web page instantly!

Really excited to see where it goes next.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] earlyberd:
While that does appear promising, bear in mind that ICS doesn't handle Flash content yet. I would not be surprised to see performance take a huge hit once Flash is enabled.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] reaperzero:
as long as it does not make us a html5 cripple im happy :D
[Eee Pad Transformer General] unfnknblvbl:
Do people really care about flash? I get by just fine with flash blocked in my desktop browser, and I'M thinking of removing it from my phone because I just don't use it.

A far as I can tell, Flash on mobile has just been a marketing exercise.

I'm much more interested in finding out how purple have their TF101 dev environments set up so I can try building my own...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] unfnknblvbl:
..aaaaand I've just found out that I don't even have Flash installed on my phone anyway. I guess I won't miss it on ICS then...
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Danzano:
we have html5 screw flash

Who is the dev behind this ??

Is he going to share at some point??
[Eee Pad Transformer General] dagrim1:
Hmmm, I see the name 'Bumbledroid' who was also developing roms for the Advent Vega... Excellent developer if you ask me, this is his twitter:

http://twitter.com/#!/BumbleDroid
[Eee Pad Transformer General] wynand32:
Criminy that browser's fast. And Flash can always be turned off, so I've never understood the complaints about a performance hit.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
Yep, and likewise you can load flash for one specific element with a simple tap, so it's actually preferable to leaving it switched on, if you ask me. Quicker page download, and less annoying, flashing ads...

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Looks pretty fast, although another video elsewhere suggests to me that home page swipe still isn't quite as smooth as the iPad 2. (Not surprising, as Apple customized their proc to include dedicated processes for specific functions, and I'd bet swiping is one of them.)

I'd like to see Photoshop Touch on the Prime -- that could really take advantage of the processor power!
[Eee Pad Transformer General] kulek:
I want flash, I like to play flash games on my transformer. I like that "tubes" for adults works great (only red have issues). I want it, even if browser with this plug-in is slower.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stinky73:
Flash is dead... adobe announced on 11 November they are stopping development of it on mobile devices to concentrate on html5... so why bother to build something obsolete into ICS? Sod it! Maybe apple were right all along :-(

Adobe blog here

http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
Holy **** shut up about Flash. Adobe isn't making it for mobile devices anymore. We will still have it, and many people still need it. I'm tired of like 30% of the threads in this forum contain people either *****ing about the lack of flash or being delusional enough to believe flash is useless on mobile.

ICS will get flash. So will Jellybean and other newer firmwares. No one, and I do mean absolutely no one, gives a **** about whether you want flash or whether you don't want flash.

With that said, the browser is insanely fast. That isn't just because flash is disabled, it's an actual increase in rendering time (along with a few tricks to convince you it's instant).
[Eee Pad Transformer General] stinky73:
Woah! Steady up ol' fella.... don't get upset.... and I think you probably mean the rendering time is decreased or the rendering speed is increased ;-)

Sent from my Transformer TF101 currently transformed into a small bowl of Petunias
[Eee Pad Transformer General] Gary13579:
I'm not upset, merely annoyed, I naturally tend to swear a lot. Yes, I meant decreased. It looks faster than honeycomb, but it also only displays the page after it's fully rendered, which is known to cause a difference in appeared loading time.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] knoxploration:
That's for mobile only, and even if Adobe kills it off on the desktop, it will take a period of several years at the least before it largely dies out online. Apple sheeple may be willing to accept partial web access during those years; Android users aren't. We want, expect, and almost certainly will get flash on Ice Cream Sandwich.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] scoobdude:
http://m.androidcentral.com/adobe-flash-player-111-coming-galaxy-nexus-end-year

Assuming this means all of ics ......
[Eee Pad Transformer General] jordanjay29:
I seriously can't wait for ICS on my phone and shiny new tablet! It'll be great to have them both running the same version of Android, especially if AOSP builds can be used just as well on the TF as Asus' official builds.
[Eee Pad Transformer General] No_Nickname90:
Um...? That is only partially true. If you're going to give facts, you should give ALL the facts. That way it won't look like a one-sided story.

I guess the fact that Adobe PLANS to bring flash to ICS doesn't matter? And don't you think by the time HTML5 comes out, Jelly Bean would be ready? :P

http://www.pcworld.com/article/244405/adobe_flash_for_ice_cream_sandwich_by_yearend.html
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fenny:
What this mod does:

What this means to you:

Installation:

Method 1: ADB install

Appreciate my work? Buy Me a Beer:
[Motorola Atrix 2] svtfmook:
awesome job!

however, will this effect how the device currently interacts with the motorola docks (webtop, lapdock, car-dock, hd-dock, etc)
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fenny:
The modifications to PortalApp will have no effect on that interaction whatsoever I have just removed the bit that checks to see if your dock is legit when the Webtop Launches. And the modification to DockService simply causes the mIsWebtopAllowed variable to return true.

In short everything will work the same, you'll just always have a webtop option in the Dock Picker Activity no matter what type of HDMI/Dock you have connected.
[Motorola Atrix 2] itguy28:
Excellent WORK!!!

Thanks i appreciate the work you did to make this happen!!! as soon as i get paid im buying you a beer!!!
[Motorola Atrix 2] halfevildruid:
Used this mod on my OG ATRIX. Works great on it with a Bluetooth keyboard. Again good work.
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
silly question I'm sure but I have to ask: Does this require root?
[Motorola Atrix 2] zvnbadboy:
mount -o remount,rw /system

Didn't work for me. Had to use this:

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/system /system
[Motorola Atrix 2] Fenny:
Yes, you'll need root.
[Motorola Atrix 2] sobesan:
Is it just 720p for all or anyone got it going @1080?

Sent from soberstone mobile.
[Motorola Atrix 2] duke8804:
Mod works great Thanks. I just have one question. Is there a way to make the 4G connection work on webtop?
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdhoggattjr:
sweet! thanks works great
[Motorola Atrix 2] kojitabe:
Does this trick will enabling ethernet network?

Thanks
[Motorola Atrix 2] rdhoggattjr:
i just got it going at 720p, but i haven't played with it to much.
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
works great. Has anyone tried getting the full ubuntu or installing any .deb packages on i yet?
[Motorola Atrix 2] halfevildruid:
Just enable tethering/mobile hotspots. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1330438.

Anyway after this turn on your mobile hotspots and and then connect your lapdock. It will run on your mobile broadband without a tethering plan. Now will you get a letter? I dunno.
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
Well... I've screwed up. I tried this from the Bionic Forum as a test: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1281722

and now my Atrix 2 will not load the web top. The M pulses and then nothing happens, the phone goes to sleep. I've tried a factory restore but that did not correct this. Any help would be appreciated.
[Motorola Atrix 2] halfevildruid:
Were you able to flash the webtop restore through RSD and go back to stock webtop?
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
I have not tried that yet, I have been a little to afraid to given what happened the first time I tried using Bionic derived tools. I'm a Mac guy, so RSD is out of my reach right now. I will try it tonight at work.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jstrayy:
can I flash via recovery?

the same way I did with the first Atrix? Please let me know, and thank you, don't wanna try and brick it.
[Motorola Atrix 2] halfevildruid:
The first times a mistake, the second time is a choice.
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
Which is why I opted to go and have Best Buy replace it. :) Sorry folks, if anyone else is brave enough they can have at.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yes I have a full ubuntu and gnome running on the webtop. I am working on a write up for it.

Here are some pics that show it... This was before I had gnome working though.

Jim
[Motorola Atrix 2] JRW 28:
Nice!! Will be waiting on the write up

Glad to see you're still with us Jim
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
Jim,

Good on ya for getting to work what I trashed my OSH partition trying to do. heh I look forward to this.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yeah I did too, it is the FACLs that they have on the osh partition that got you.... It is called tomoyo you have to move the directory from /etc/tomoyo to /etc/toy or something like that.... That is why you got the Motorola red M.... I got the same thing until I figured it all out and moved tomoyo out of the way,

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Yeah I am still here, but unfortunately I lost my trusty quad core AMD box last week, so I had to build a new.... But now I have an eight core AMD with 16GB of RAM, so not too bad...

That is why I was not around last week... thank goodness for backups too, because the CPU crashed and took the whole board and LINUX drives with it...
[Motorola Atrix 2] nahuelarg86:
I'm sorry for the VERY noob question,

This mod supposedly let you connect the phone to a computer and use the computer as a lapdock?

Thanks.
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
No, it will let you connect your phone to an HDMI TV or Monitor and use the built in Linux system.
[Motorola Atrix 2] JRW 28:
Well that's one way to upgrade, hate it come at a cost, but glad you're back!
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
Given my last foray into this, I'll wait patiently for your write up to make sure I have it right.
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
Crap. Had I known I was so close I would have stuck it out.
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
Hey Jim, I have a few questions for you on this.

1) How big is the web top partition? I know on the Atrix it's something goofy like 80 mb

2) Have you tried any of the Webtop2SD hacks?

3) Any luck on the write up for this? I think I'm going to pick up the lapdock soon and I'd love to have the full ubuntu on it.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Yes I am posting the write up here in a few min, I am testing my script right now.

I have a script that will do 90% of the work all you or anyone else will have to do is format the sdcard, and I have instructions on how to do it...

The sdcard patition needs to be at least 1GB, I made mine 4GB, on my 32GB card, and it HAS to be formatted to ext3. For windows use this program:

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

But I HIGHLY recommend doing it with gparted and you can download a bootable iso from the link below that has gparted on it, that will allow you to resize your sdcard and format just the new partition to ext3, NO DATA LOSS.

gparted bootable iso, just burn this to a cd and boot into it, an launch gparted.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

P.S. webtop2sd does not work for our phone, so that is why I have written all the scripts to handle all the same stuff they are doing.
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
Jim... what's it like to be the man? Honestly? LOL! Awesome man, I look forward to it. Thanks a ton.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
LOL

Well I will not be getting the write up done I just bricked my phone, busybox and I have been fighting on commands all night. I finally somhow corrupted my android install and was getting the following errors:

"link_image[1964]: 17170 could not load needed library 'liblog.so' for '/system/bin/mount' (link_image[1964]: 17170 could not load needed library 'libgcc_s.so.1' for 'liblog.so' (load_library[1106]: Library 'libgcc_s.so.1' not found))CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE"

Now my phone will not boot at all. It is stuck on the DUAL CORE screen.

It looks like I will be at best buy in the morning trying to get them to exchange it, even though I am technically over my 30 days by like 3 or 4 now.

I think it had to do with the hack I have been working on to break the bootloader to boot another kernel.

Oh well, I will see if I can get a new phone and get back up soon and have all the webtop stuff up early next week.
[Motorola Atrix 2] voodoomurphy:
oh SNAP. Well I was over my 30 days but they swapped mine out so hopefully they can do yours as well. If you went in and had them price match against Radio Shack and get your $50 back that will work in your favor since TECHNICALLY they had to return and resell you the phone for free, hence giving you another 30 days.

Good luck man! I'm patiently waiting with 6 gigs partitioned on my SD card for it. :)
[Motorola Atrix 2] Atrixed2:
can I make my /system read only again?

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/system /system

Or its okay to leave it at read/write mode?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
No you do not need to leave /system rw.

You can remount it read only with the following

mount -o remount, ro /system

Just do that after you have copied the files into place.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jstrayy:
Guys can someone help me out? I unzipped the files and overwrote the original APKs for the webtop.... and yea it didn't work lol, can you guys either upload the originals or walk me through it so that I can do it correctly? Sorry for the bother and thanks to whoever helps out! :)
[Motorola Atrix 2] Atrixed2:
Mine worked, all I did was copy and paste every single command line. After it reboot plugged it in to my TV then it didn't work. I realized that i have frozen webtop lol. You might want to check if you have frozen those webtop related apps.
[Motorola Atrix 2] armyengineer51:
Little help?

I'm obviously doing something wrong here, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what. When I put in the command:

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/system /system

Terminal comes back at me with:

You must specify a filesystem type with -t.

I'm on a Mac, if that matters. Thanks in advance!
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Try this instead.

mount -o remount, rw /system

Jim
[Motorola Atrix 2] armyengineer51:
I appreciate the response Jim, and if I can get back into my device, I'll give this a shot. I was attempting to install the theme from this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1383779

and now my device in stuck in a bootloop. A factory reset via stock recovery didn't help either, and I am at a loss on how to fix it.
[Motorola Atrix 2] 400757:
Try this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1404625

No permanent change, only runtime patch.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jstrayy:
Thanks, but I think I'm just gonna get a warranty replacement... I can use webtop, and mirror mode, but I'm not able to watch movies like I used to be able to via HDMI -_-
[Motorola Atrix 2] RickNY1971:
Quick question -- is there anything within these two APKs that determine screen rotation when the phone is in dock mode? Just came from Photon to Atrix 2, and car dock mode is forced into landscape (Photon allowed Portrait in car dock)..

Thanks,

Rick
[Motorola Atrix 2] cogeary:
:( Really? I got stuck in a bootloop, pulled the battery, booted and entered fastboot, and then flashed the stock fxz.

Is RSD Lite giving you any errors or anything about failing to flash/are you using RSD Lite?
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
No, he was not referring to using the fxz, he meant that doing a factory reset did not fix it. from the stock recovery (hold down the vol. up+ vol. Down while powering on, then pull the battery when you get to the fast boot screen, and then repeat the Vol up_ vol. down, at power on, and you will get the stock recovery menu... take a look at the date, we did not have the fxz yet, when that was posted.

He did in fact get his phone back with the fxz from what I remember seeing in another post in the general section. He got into that by trying to edit several apk files, and deodex them, so he could use a theme, before we had any ROMs built.
[Motorola Atrix 2] cogeary:
Oh OK I see, I just looked at the 17 and thought it meant January 17 :o

Good to hear he could recover though.
[Motorola Atrix 2] holeshot77:
I did as the op says to do. No go. Nothing. I plug it in and I get webtop sessions blah blah but nothing pops up on my laptop screen. i tried nebtop app and still nothing. I guess I don't know how to run it or I don't know if I am loading everything right or what.

Can anyone help? I am using the V4 ROM. Thanks.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
It won't "pop" up on your laptop screen... you need to connect the hdmi cable to a TV, to see the webtop screen show up with this hack.. otherwise you can use the lapdock or hd dock to get webtop.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jstrayy:
how can I make the rar file into a flashable zip?

if someone can help me out, I'd appreciate it. I suck at using adb (I can't really understand it lol)
[Motorola Atrix 2] dudemaaan:
This link is kinda helpful

http://www.londatiga.net/it/how-to-use-android-adb-command-line-tool/

Basically connect your phone via USB, make sure USB debugging is enabled on the phone. Select charge only.

Obviously you need ADB installed.

Extract the files in the first post to a directory. (I took the files out of the folder and put them at D:\ so I don't have to type a long directory out)

Open command window and type the first set of commands pointing to the directory you put the files. In my case...

adb push D:\DockService.apk /mnt/sdcard/

adb push D:\PortalApp.apk /mnt/sdcard/

Once those 2 are moved over, just copy and paste the rest of the commands exactly as they appear in the first post making sure each command succeeds without any reported errors. Hope that helps.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jstrayy:
Thanks a lot bro, I actually just pushed it with root explorer and deleted the old ones and the backups... worked fine for me, now if only we had the "Entertainment Center" option like the first atrix :D
[Motorola Atrix 2] dudemaaan:
Question, I did the mod on my atrix 2 and everything works. Except when I was reading on this link http://atrix4ghacks.com/atrix-4g-hacks/how-to-enable-webtop-without-laptopusb-dock/ it shows the atrix 4G with a keyboard and mouse on the phone screen. How can I get a mouse and keyboard on my screen? It's just blank and none of the buttons or touch does anything.
[Motorola Atrix 2] rachitpant:
Those two commands worked for me ..

After that when I try su . i get command not found.

My phone is rooted. ? i used one click root and at the end i got .. ur phone is now rooted after couple of reboots.

Here is command results:

shell@edison:/$ su

su

su: not found

shell@edison:/$ sudo

sudo

sudo: not found

shell@edison:/$ mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/system /system

mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/system /system

mount: Operation not permitted

Thanks

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ohh yeah .. i had to use 2.3.6 root .. phone is now rooted and su command now works
[Motorola Atrix 2] twostep665:
I have a question. I was able to hook this up to my tv and everything worked (except for the fact I had no keyboard or mouse to control anything).

My Dell Inspiron 1525 has an hdmi port. How do I go about getting this to display onto my computer? I plug it in and nothing happens.

THanks
[Motorola Atrix 2] RickNY1971:
Its an output port, not an input
[Motorola Atrix 2] twostep665:
I was afraid that might be the case. I was hoping it could go both ways. :(

Oh well. Thanks!

Is there any way when i connect it to the tv to be able to use the phone touch screen as a mouse/keyboard/trackpad?
[Motorola Atrix 2] rob219:
thank you, this works as it should.
[Motorola Atrix 2] jfrank1485:
Hi everyone I follow the instructions for this and it works great but i have one question, how can i have the mouse and keybord in the atrix2 while i use the webtop?? I remember that some roms like victory that have webtop via Hdmi have this i can use the touch screen of the phone to control the mouse.

Thanks
[Motorola Atrix 2] mtnlion:
I gave up and bought this.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004CVHCO0/ref=redir_mdp_mobile

Well worth it and works great.

Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
Just install our NEBtop hack!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1410509&highlight=nebtop
[Motorola Atrix 2] jimbridgman:
not sure, it is on the Atrix, so no guarantees... webtop is going be better, because it is ubuntu, gentoo is not that great of a distro in my opinion.
[Motorola Atrix 2] hamba9551:
Hello, im using rom supercharged v6 n mouse Bluetooth funtion very well..just connect hdmi from lcd monitor without hd dock..webtop well full funtion..only my keyboard problem n i think need to get warranty from seller..or someone had same problem as me??
[Motorola Atrix 2] Daiskei:
For anyone on ICS who wants to use Webtop 3.0 and bypass the entitlement check just go into system/apps and rename the two entintlement files to .bak... one apk, one something else... and then reboot and run webtop 3.0. :)

Also, no need for anything like nebtop... Webtop 3.0 has default mouse and keyboard support via the screen.