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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oscillik:
something that needs to be mentioned - the colour of the phone is pertinent with regard to perceived thickness

the LTE version seems to be all black, whereas the GSM version has lighter tapering with a darker middle-section.

this does make a difference to perceived thickness
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
All of these things aside...I'm still scared that Verizon hasn't announced a release date. Supposedly they were going to announce *today* when the phone would be released...and we've seen nothing. Google now even has a picture of the LTE version on their site, which *should* coincide with a release notification of some kind (almost always does, in the phone world)...and yet Verizon is staying silent.

When Verizon doesn't speak...it always scares me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FISKER_Q:
But who wants a device with jaggies and low-res textures? :( :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rashad1:
Do we really need an entire thread about this? -_-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] spencer88:
Until the device is in our hands...yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Lol epic response
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qnet:
IDK, those pics look not right, even the redone one. The color on the LTE version looks darker and more plain. It's not a deal-breaker but, I hope it's not like that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Balthazar B:
Might be? :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Aridon:
Its not even on a compatible carrier. Why do you even care?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trentonw:
The lte one looks better IMO. I like the black. And I like the power button more as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Looking at this pic, the HSPA has the black back
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] voxigenboy:
i like my phones like i like my women... ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
Gotta be honest. I like the Verizon version better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
To each his own :D

unicorn style?:cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
Skinny, fast, and good for a few hours before recharging?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EarthsiegeTA:
Covered in bees?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hdub32:
Is it me or doe the HSPA version look more curved ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
yep, the added thickness to the LTE version made the device more brick-like, its a verizon thing..

LOL! Havent even thought of that
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Don't forget the Carrier IQ!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] samagon:
With your hoohaa in them?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mechapathy:
Maybe I'm missing the joke here, but it's pretty clear they're lit differently. They're not actually different colors. And yes, the color does affect perceived thickness.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Balthazar B:
Maybe with their hoohaa in him...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
I'm fairly certain there is no chance in hell light could twist the colors of the devices in such a way. Besides, there have been a lot of pictures of the VZWexus that showed the same ... matte..blueish....thing.. color.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oscillik:
i gotta say - my HSPA+ version of the Galaxy Nexus colour looks less like the official Google image of the HSPA+ version, and actually looks more like the colour of the Verizon version.

Of course, lighting could play a part there ;)

Lighting can absolutely "twist the colors of the devices in such a way"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mechapathy:
So the LTE version will also have a yellow tinted flash? I mean, really look at the two pictures. It looks to me like they're lit from different angles, with different color light. You can tell from color differences on things that likely wouldn't vary version to version (flash color, the subdued dock connector, etc). I don't know 100% that it won't look like that, but evidence suggests to me that it won't.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Pjhollen 12 hours ago on PhoneArena.

"The Verizon one reminds me of when I was a kid and I'd get shoes at Payless. My mom would tell me they were just as good as Nikes, but somehow they looked a bit off..."

lmao similar experience
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sstang2006:
I was not going to waste my time on posting on this pointless thread but that's it already...

Dmw017, what is your gain on trying to make the Verizon nexus look inferior to the GSM nexus? Whats your gain on all this negative post towards the same phone you love, just because it is in a different carrier?

Don't you know any iPhone, spongebob or pikachu forum where you can really have fun posting things like this?

grow up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rusty!:
Do you even realise how small 0.53mm really is?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
I'm rooting for the Nexus to achieve greatness in every aspect. I'm more frustrated with Verizon at screwing up a major part of the Nexus name and am trying to make light of it instead of dwelling in the negativity.

I've been waiting for this phone since it was first hinted at back in June and Verizon is not doing any justice to the device itself or what it represents. This thread was started to report news on the Nexus and wasn't meant to hurt anybodies feelings... not sure what your deal is but nothing said here has been fabricated to insult the Nexus. I said the LTE model was (at first, by mistake) seemingly way thicker, and (still is) discolored.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trentonw:
No, your bashing it. Vzw version has lte and a higher battery. What?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
The 1st gen LTE radio kills the insufficiently-higher battery.

LTE's benefits over HSPA+ do not outweigh it's downsides.

None of this has anything to do with what this thread is about though...

[meaningless convo incoming]
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ghost010:
calm down bro.

that 0.53MM can be really noticable..

you cant put a 0.53mm screw in a 0.52mm hole. and you will see that the 0.53mm screw is bigger.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trentonw:
That's when you switch off lte to save battery. What now?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
That's more of a hassle than you make it out to be. Thanks.

Discuss further?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
But we're not talking about a mechanical application. If you were handed a .53mm and a .52mm screw, you'd never know.

Even more to the point, if I handed you something 9mm thick and told you it was 8.5mm thick, there is 0% chance you'd call me on it.

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Yeah it's a real PITA to open the LTE app and select the option.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trentonw:
Not a hasstle at all. You can just use a widget that is as simple as flipping a light switch.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Lol every single time you need to use it, then wait for it to firmly establish the connection, yes. People these days don't even want to shop on a website unless it has a 1-click purchase button lol. Can also make an example for many apps, bookmarks, widgets - Many of them designed just made to shave off a few precious seconds.

Went off on a tangent there.. anyway, those handful of seconds it takes to enable/disable 4G does get irritating, and a case can be made that you shouldn't have to disable it in the first place... principle of the matter, and whatnot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mb02:
I bet you'd slap your own mom in the face for giving you a christmas present with one extra layer of wrapping paper claiming it forced you to unwrap for .3 seconds longer. Go start a WoW account, real life appears to be too much for you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bangdrum:
Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trentonw:
Ooooo
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dnlsmy:
Dude, Verizon 's 3G is equivalent to EDGE speeds on any other network, that's why all their top phones need LTE. It's also a reason why the Nexus has a TI chip instead of Exynos, as Exynos doesn't take LTE radios. Face it, VZW screwed up the Nexus line this time...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
Umm...not even close. Do you have any idea how slow EDGE is? EV-DO might not be as fast as HSPA, but it's nowhere near as slow as EDGE.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fr4c:
Troll much?

If you think VZW 3G network is like EDGE speeds on ATT/T-Mobile, then you should really stop posting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
VZW 3g = .5mbps primetime
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dnlsmy:
Dude, I'd rather get throttled on T-Mobile than use my friends VZW 3G Droid ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
I wonder why they call it EDGE :/

Whenever I see the word, I think of being stranded in some dark, cold abyss at the edge of the universe :x ominous stuff (true story)

From what I've heard, it's speeds are not too far off from the dismal picture in my head.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
Hi there! I'm the voice of reason. See, you switch off LTE when you aren't doing anything data intensive. Most of us carry our phones around for smaller tasks and are on WiFi when we're in a situation that necessitates any real speed. So having the phone chewing up battery while I'm using Trillian and firing off some email makes no sense.

Verizon hasn't screwed this up at all, people are just being friggin' morons for no discernible reason.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
I think you guys are just trying to be overly optimistic about your new phone's flaws. It's only natural, I did the same thing with my Droid 3... until I had the device with me for a week, then all my rationalizations about the bugs "not being a big deal" turned out to be so wrong.

Guess we won't see until the phone is out but in every single past LTE device, the battery has been sucked dry faster than [insert sexual innuendo] by the LTE radio that consumed more juice than [continuation of sexual innuendo]
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dnlsmy:
No, but by having to support LTE, the entire chipset had to be switched from Exynos to TI. I'm sorry if I'm hating on VZW, but come on, they slapped their logos all over this Nexus and installed their BS apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dnlsmy:
This
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
The Exynos isn't compatible with T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42Mbit/s network. :o just sayin. The T-Mo SGS2 had to use a 1.5 ghz Snapdragon processor instead :D

Totally agree with the rest. VZW killed the Nexus... which is why I pretend it never existed in the Nexus line of phones :] instead, its a new "Galaxy" device

edit: forgot to mention, the Razr's battery is just as terrible. Smart Actions is (apparently) an amazing app, howeever :).

I'm sure XDA will have it ported over to the VZWexus as the LTE will be raping the battery
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
Oh no, not logos and apps. Meanwhile it's still unlocked and has all the other perks of being a Nexus phone. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Oh cmon you can't say you were not one bit disappointed in finding out about the blaotware and the logo of an evil carrier scarring your new best friend. I know I was disappoint and I'm not even buying the LTE model (again, I was rooting for the Nexus as a whole to be awesome, but VZW had to mess it up..)

It's not that "oh well its just 2 somewhat useful apps" and "the logos in the back, no1 will ever see" ... its the principle of the matter, this is a Nexus... should be treated as such and Verizon should respect that..but nope. Bully of a carrier imo
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xHausx:
I like the shinier one
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JBO1018:
There are only TWO apps added by VZW and they happen to be useful to VZW subscribers.

Also LTE isn't that bad on the battery. Compared relatively, sure it seems that way. However, I own a Thunderbolt and can go all day on the stock battery with moderately high use running a HUGE sense 3.0 ROM with NO underclocking.

So I don't see how VZW screwed anything up but the launch. I do wish Google wouldn't have let them stamp their label on it but honestly anyone who is that bothered by it needs their head checked.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?!?!

....Haters gonna hate.....

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
He missed my last post, entirely O.o

Btw any1 notice the polls recently, lol 40 to 14, probably on account of unbridled optimism and denial XD
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trentonw:
Your just madbro cause you fukd up and bought the wrong Nexus.You should have waited to get LTE, but then this thread would have never happened.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dnlsmy:
If Apple let the VZW iPhone get a tramp stamp with some Verizon Apps people would have flipped their ****. Apple's first iPhone purposely dodged VZW as they wanted those things before the iPhone was a success. Do you know how many people were suckered into buying a Droid Incredible by Google and VZW because they said it was "like a cousin to the Nexus One"?

Honestly, Google should have taken a stand and said no to VZW's bull****. I don't care if it's just a couple of apps and a logo here and there, I hold the Nexus Line with the same prestige as the iPhone line, if not even higher because of all the crap you have to sift through to get to it. VZW and Google screwed the pooch on this one, you'll see it once this finally drops in the US. It's going to be the best Android phone on VZW, but the GSM version will always trump it, every single time.

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And be stuck to VZW forever? Hell no. Even Apple wised up and decided that the CDMA only iPhone was a dead end so they began to make World iPhones.

Honestly, I would take the ability to go on ANY GSM NETWORK IN THE WORLD (including HSPA+) than have an LTE phone with **** battery that's locked to one carrier's "fukd up" prices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ericshmerick:
Yeah, I know the two VZW apps on the GNEX have people up in arms...with good reason.

Sure, they are SO useful to VZW users, but why not just make them available for download? Putting them on the stock image sets a dangerous precedent.

Next thing you know you will have CityID and VZW Navigator baked into the AOSP ROM.

Nooo thanks....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Sir, this post ... it speaks of so much truth. I will print it poster-sized, frame it, and hang it on my living room wall

Someone give this man a medal!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trentonw:
Haven't you seen that new iPhone add on TV? With the people stranded in the ocean?

Verizon saves their lives.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ThunderStick:
Longest troll thread ever award....

Congrats, to all and to all a good night.

Sent while tapping my ThunderStick on a bolt of lightning...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Speaking of, I wonder if Verizon's CEO has a bloatware filled MotoBlur phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trentonw:
No he/she runs Cyanogen Mod
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Thought you were serious. Googled him. No word on Cyanogen, found out he has a wife and two kids however. If (below) that isnt the expression of a man brimming with wisdom and intelligence, I don't know what is
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mb02:
Hmm, I guess thays why ATT is switching to LTE and LTE advanced lest they circle the drain like T-Mo and Sprint with their fake and dying "4G" services. BTW, LTE is the new world standard based on GSM tech. We'll see who laughs when iPhone 5 owns an LTE radio (not that I care, iPhone isnt my bag anyway). ***** all you want about bloatware and VZWs "bull****", doesn't change the the fact that they are the only carrier doing well and provide top quality wireless service. Pretty sure a quick root can get rid of those pesky TWO apps that do just about nothing anyways. Lets be honest: who buys a Nexus and doesn't root it. And branding? Its on the battery door. Get a diff one.Solved. Furhermore, all this talk about Google/Android/Nexus purity and superiority makes me wonder what makes any of you different from Apple kids these days? Thought that's why I steered clear of those products... oh well, carry on children.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
Not at all. I've had AT&T for over 10 years and Verizon for around 4. My AT&T 3G at full service is around 6-8Mbps (pretty respectable). My Verizon at full service is around 2.5-3Mbps. Still nothing really to complain about.

Then I switch to LTE and I get over 30Mbps. Definitely worth it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dnlsmy:
LTE is the future no doubt, but the reason VZW rushed to it was because they knew that CDMA was **** and they needed to get better speeds. Look, the way things are going, LTE is shaping up to be the new GSM and with LTE-ADVANCED and voLTE, there will be no need to fall back to dated networks anymore. I whole-heatedly agree that T-Mobile is headed down the toilet if they believe their HSPA+ Network is going to get them by forever, but for now it's a better alternative to CDMA/LTE, which gives you the choice between blazing fast speeds for a couple of hours(if you can get it) or paint drying speeds on EVDO. At least T-Mobile and AT&T, along with other local carriers, allow for a nice halfway point and with AT&T giving you the option of HSPA+/LTE, the choice has never been easier.

As for your comments about Apple, I'm not as blind as you to not notice that the iPhone ACTUALLY has some merits. The way it blends Hardware and Software in a perfect melody is primarily WHY it's so popular, not because of some cultish following. Google has a chance to do that with every Nexus Phone, and they seem to have been missing the mark every time. With the Galaxy Nexus, they seem to have finally have hit a home run, so can we cut the carrier specific bull**** out of it? Oh, and top quality service my ass, if I ran a wireless services where all the phones made for me ONLY WORKED ON MY NETWORK (I'm looking at you VZW Droid 1,2,3 and the slew of other phones they have) why shouldn't I make a killing? It's not like they can waltz over and simply remove their SIM and move to a different carrier. Heck, they can't even sell their phone without going through massive red-tape, let alone buy a cheap phone to bring onto the network. With the monopoly they have on CDMA, which in it's self is a monopolistic technology, of course they had enough cash to make an LTE network. AT&T can lose customers, can unlock phones, and people can bring their own phones to the network to bypass a lot of the costs, while VZW users are just **** out of luck.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/23/2578711/verizon-lte-explained should clear up that Wimax/HSPA+ remark you made.

Your maturity comes out in that nice long rant you made with a runaway insult at the end that shows your superiority over the rest of us.

As far as your "We are a nexus cult" claim goes... i buy the nexus because it is android at its finest.. if a better phone comes along, ill replace my nexus.. no1 here is buying it because its a popular "every1 else has one!" device or just because its a Google phone (Apple -> iPhone). The majority of us buy the Nexus because of what it (and Google) actually brings to the table in terms of hardware/software..

Verizon's customer service is 100% absolute garbage. Their LTE is (read the article...) not as "OMFG LOOK GUYZ 50MBPS!" awesome as u try to make it out to be.. and yeah, no sh** LTE is the future but right now its premature and AT&T knows that, which is why they waited so long to start rolling out their new network. Back to the carrier though, VZW is a selfish evil behemoth and idgaf what type of towers they have
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mb02:
I stated VZW wireless service was great, not customer service.

Cry all you want, Verizon LTE is advanced in compariaon to HSPA+ and WiMax. That's science. Not to mention at 700 mhz it actually GETS THROUGH WALLS lol.

If you actually think current LTE is premature than you are a flat out moron that's never used it. The only prpblem is the radio and HTC has aleady solved that problem with upcoming S4 SoCs. ATT just was too slow and/or couldn't afford to adopt early.

LTE speeds is just fine with me. I never said anything about it being the magical unicorn of bandwidth, but everyone agrees it pretty much beats all else. No one ever believes theoretical speeds are gonna be real world application. Terrible argument.

So far all it seems is you are having carrier insecurities and take your jealousy/frustration out on the forums. Have fun with that. Ill be satisfied with my Nexus on Verizon while you ***** and moan endlessly.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dnlsmy:
Alright, this argument no longer promotes any more discussion or benefit anymore. I hope you enjoy your LTE Nexus, and I will enjoy my GSM Nexus. :D Let's not argue about cell tech anymore.

Peace out!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qnet:
It's interesting where this thread has turned, anyway I guess I'll add my opinions & thoughts.

I hate the fact that Verizon may be putting the two bloat apps on the phone and, I don't like the logo on the back either. Having said that, it's not a deal-breaker and I will still be getting this phone.

I'm tired and about to go to bed so, I won't go into why I like the pure Google experience and the whole Nexus program (maybe later for another discussion) but, I've had experience with both HSPA+ and LTE.

When you get right down to actual use, from my personel use; you can't tell the difference between the two. I'm talking about browsing the web and watching videos. Yes, when you do speedtest, LTE has amazing speeds vs. HSPA+ (which is no slouch) but, when it come to actual use, you would be hard-pressed to tell the difference.

Anyway, this is a cool subject and, I could go on and on but, it's time to go to bed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
-...I just switched off of Verizon specifically for the Nexus... lmao

-Average LTE speeds were 10mbps

-I'm sensing a lot of aggression/hostility from you. Seems like your denial is feeling threatened, its afraid of being unearthed.

Best post on this thread so far hands-down. GJ man. Pure unbiased awesomeness lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Any word on Carrier IQ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HideYoKids:
Everyone knows Black is slimming, guys, right? Right?!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dnlsmy:
Lol, I get the joke but on a serious note, the LTE version "looks" thicker because it's not two toned and as curved as the HSPA+ model. My Sensation looks and feels really thin the same way.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oscillik:
the HSPA+ version isn't two toned either...despite what that official Google image suggests.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Lmao, your name made the joke that much better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kolyan:
I am afraid to switch to Verizon and LTE. I stream music in car and use browser on the phone, i dont tether. I wonder if LTE will kill my battery fast. 3-5 hours is unacceptable < thats what i hear people get when use LTE heavy (heavy means tethering or streaming data)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Someone using the HSPA+ Nexus got 17 hours under moderate-heavy usage with 15% left. Can't remember where I saw it but, there ya go. Btw in real world situations, LTE, Wimax, and HSPA+ are nearly indistinguishable. Obviously, this is debatable, but the way I see it, the increase in LTE over the other two in actual data usage is not enough to justify the heavy toll the LTE radio takes on the phone/battery. I'd rather have unnoticeable slightly-slower speeds and have a lot of juice left in my HSPA+ phone, then have my whole phone shut down because the battery is dead from the LTE radio.

...Just my view of course
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smalltownbird:
Lte draining the battery is something that everyone thinks every phone does because when the tbolt came out it was horrible. It all varies on the phone and usage. I have a bionic and I am on 4g all day. I have everything synced, 2 email accounts, I stream Pandora and listen to music on the phone, constantly check the forums, make phone calls and text all day. I unplug at 645am and by 11pm I have anywhere from 20-10% battery left when I plug in to charge. I don't think that is too bad. And no the bionic is underclocked or undervolted yet...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dmw017:
Hi not to imply anything but can you provide a screenshot?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smalltownbird:
Its only 220 here right now and I am at 62%. I can get one when I go to bed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kolyan:
as far as I understand LTE is only data... so you using your phone has very little impact on battery (aside from CDMA radio). The only LTE hungry app I see is Pandora.....which I have no idea how long u use.

when reviewers checked LTE and got 3-5 hours max, they tethered data to laptop