yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Acer Iconia A500] uli68:
i did not say i wanted to play 1080p on my device - you are clearly not able to read and most probably just a fanboy.

besides, i still don't get your point. i would chose 1080p over 720p if i had the choice. and you would stick to 720p or SD because you think there is no "benefit" in playing higher resolution content on smaller display? well, quantified the benefit would be at least 80 lines more content, don't you think?

there might be cases where a hard- or software scaler messes up while downscaling a video and picture quality degrades, but generally the higher the resolution the better the picture quality, regardless of display resolution.

now, back to topic please!
[Acer Iconia A500] bonzer2u:
+1.........................
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Atleast I can play baseline and normal profile H.264 content at 1080p just fine. It's only high-profile that reverts to software and doesn't play well.

The display itself is 720p, so trying to play 1080p content on a 720p display is kind of pointless. You won't see the extra resolution anyways. Though if you're playing through HDMI to a 1080p display then it makes sense.

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Not entirely correct. Higher resolution doesn't equal better compression quality, so you can easily have 1080p video that looks like ass crap, and you can have SD video that looks better.

That said there are lots of reasons to choose 720p over 1080p on A500: 720p high-profile video generally looks much better than 1080p baseline-profile, high-profile fares a lot better in high-motion scenes, and high-profile takes less storage space than baseline-profile. And well, since you can't see the extra resolution anyways you're just wasting extra storage space on stuff you can't even see.
[Acer Iconia A500] bonzer2u:
http://www.arm.com/community/partners/display_product/rw/ProductId/5770/

clearly states 1080p support via HDMI output.... is this what your after???
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
A software solution will only boost applications that are specifically designed to utilize it, and the hardware simply isn't fast enough to decode 1080p high-profile in software at full speed, so no, no matter what NVIDIA is claiming they cannot do magic tricks here.

Thor or some other custom ROM can only increase clock speed, there is nothing else to be done about it. And you can increase clock speed even on the stock ROM anyways.

But as I mentioned I have absolutely no problem running 1080p baseline- or normal-profile content, or 720p content, because I am not using the stock player. Use one of the players from Android Market, they're a lot faster and smarter than the stock player.

Also an important note to you: the stock player reverts to SOFTWARE if audio is AC3 encoded. That is probably the issue you're seeing. The players from Android Market do AC3 in software, but send the video to the hardware, so that's why they don't lag with AC3 audio.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
I was on topic, if you can't understand that attempting to play 1080p Res videos on a 1280x800 display has no benefits whatsoever, then maybe you need one of These.

I honestly don't understand what is so friggin' tough about understanding the concept, and you clearly stated 1080p in your first post. :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
He's trying to playback through the HDMI port, muppet.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
Here ya go, educate yourself.

" If the incoming source has more pixels than the display's native resolution, you will lose some visible detail and sharpness, though often what you're left with still looks great. If the incoming source has fewer pixels than the native resolution, you're not getting any extra sharpness from the television's pixels."

http://reviews.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/
[Acer Iconia A500] uli68:
guys, and ladies, please, this thread is not about pro and contra of full hd content on smaller displays.

the question is:

is it likely that (at some point soon) there will be a workaround to overcome the issue of the missing NEON video instruction set on Tegra 2?

again, my goal is not to play 1080p content on my Iconia, just some 720p stuff, mostly TV shows encoded in H264 high profile mkv files. and no, they wont run using MX player or any other player currently available. and i guess that's also due to the missing NEON. please see the link provided in my first post.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
I already answered your questions.
[Acer Iconia A500] uli68:
thanks. well, in respect to 1080p content i don't have much hope either. but, and again, 720p content encoded in h264 high profile does NOT work for me. i have massive framerate issues and sound also drops off completely after a few seconds. i tested with google, rockplayer and mx player (all of the latest builds).

here's another example file for you and everyone else to check and report back:

The.Walking.Dead.S02E06.PROPER.720p.HDTV.x264-ORENJI.mkv
[Acer Iconia A500] jmc23:
Who's the ignoramus?

You sir are an ignorant boor who is incapable of reading. You couldn't read the posts properly and you can't even read your quote properly.

A 1080p file has more visual information. For example, it's possible to see a small mole on somebodies face in 1080p that in 720p or lower has been smoothed out and is now invisible. Playing that 1080p file on a lower resolution device gives the possibility that the mole will be visible depending on how the hardware scaling is done and since most hardware scaling isn't going for compressed file size and won't be applying gaussian blurs etc... you WILL see that mole.

The new Nook Tablet and Kindle Fire have the same screen resolution, one streams videos at SD and the other at HD. Now even though the tablet isn't capable of HD the one that streams HD is noticably sharper and has more detail. Go look up the pictures if you want. Take your own advice and educate yourself before you berate people for their ignorance when it is you who are ignorant with poor reading comprehension.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Mate, it doesn't work like that. It doesn't matter if the picture is scaled down before compression or after decompression, it's still scaled down. And no sane compression technology uses gaussian blur.

The difference is due to the fact that the HD video is compressed with better quality settings than the SD video. Besides, Kindle Fire IS 1024x600 pixels in size which means it is indeed almost 720p HD resolution meaning that HD content only needs to be scaled down by 120 lines whereas SD content has to be scaled UP instead: well, OF COURSE it will look like crap.

In other words you're comparing apples and oranges and you don't know what you're talking about either.

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I just tried that file with Dice Player. It stutters for about 5 seconds, then settles down and works like a dream. In other words, working just fine on my tablet.
[Acer Iconia A500] AlexM5:
I had problems playing 720p mkv files as well, no matter which player I used. The stock 3.2 rom appears to be missing the framework for hardware decoding of these files. No such problems since installing various Thor roms though. They all play fine now. 1080p is probably too much though. I use mx player by the way.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] pablomentabo:
I am looking to get my wife the Nook Tablet for Christmas. I know they are gonna be $250 for a new one anywhere I get it but I was wondering what's the best place to pick one up. What I was thinking is a place that may give something extra with it. I don't need a warranty since I may root it anyway but if there's a place that gives more for the Nook purchase then I'd want to get it there.

Do any of you know of a place like that (since I know I won't get a new one that is sub $250)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] xdahgary:
The best I saw was shop with Discover card website link and get 15% cash back.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] rmm200:
Barnes and Noble membership is $25 a year, and gives you a once a year discount on a nook of $25. So effectively you still pay $249, but you get a free membership. Check their web site to see if it is worth it to you. That is how I got my Tablet.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] pablomentabo:
Oh hey I almost forrgot about this one. Thanks, one thing though is she has a Barnes & Noble account already so I don't want to get another. If I can find a way to use hers without her knowing do you think they will send her an email thaking her for the purchase? I don't want them to ruin the surprise :-\
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] e.mote:
Many retailers (BestBuy, Walmart) have extended holiday returns until Jan 2012. B&N only allows a 14-day return.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] pablomentabo:
Thanks but I am not concerned about the return policy because I doubt she'd want to get rid of it once she has her hands on it
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] jdubr:
I almost did this but if you use the $25 membership to get the $25 discount on the tablet, and then you decide to return the tablet, you can't get a refund on your $25 membership because it has already been used (to buy the tablet).

I checked with the B&N guy to make sure when I bought it. He looked up the details on the membership and said yeah, there's a clause that says you can't get a refund once you've used it.

At the time I wasn't sure if I was going to keep the tablet so I skipped this deal but now that I'm really liking the tablet I wish I would have done this.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] pablomentabo:
Yeah I want to use her membership as long as they don't ruin the surprise, walking in a B&N now to ask...
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] e.mote:
>Thanks but I am not concerned about the return policy because I doubt she'd want to get rid of it once she has her hands on it

You're assuming the unit will have no defect, which isn't always true. It sucks when a new toy doesn't work, and you have to wait weeks to get it serviced (as opposed to exchanging it next day).
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] pablomentabo:
Ok, best way I found since they will email her about the purchace is to temporarily change her email to mine when I purchase it and then have her change it back later after I give it to her.

Now I got to think of a way to get her card off her w/o her knowing to do this... $25 cheaper w/o getting another membership is the best way I think

Thanks guys
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] xdahgary:
Have you heard of ebates?

http://www.ebates.com/rf.do?referrerid=57425AA%2FuPYCeMjozi1Qkw%3D%3D

8% cash back B&N purchases. You can do store pick up.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] hwong96:
Best Buy may have a special coming up where they throw in a case and/or screen protector for the holiday season.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] yumms:
Thats where I bought it, comes out to $212 after the discount.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Balzard:
Could anyone see how much it would cost them to ship to Canada a new NT paid using this Discovery offer? Seems it should turn around $250, right?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] xdahgary:
B&N doesn't allow shipping Nook to Canada.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] compscure:
FWIW, I returned mine and they did allow me to also return the 25 dollar membership. I read the fine print also and was expecting to have to eat it, but ran into zero hassle.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Booklover:
Best Buy

Best Buy has a special promo: with any Nook purchase (Touch, Color, Tablet) you get a FREE 2GB MicroSD memory card with 30 free books on it. It is allegedly a $315 value.

Here is the list of books: www[dot]bestbuy[dot]com/site/null/null/pcmcat257200050006.c?id=pcmcat257200050006

The promo is available in stores and online. I don't know how long it will last.

I believe Target and Staples are also giving away a $25 gift card with a Nook purchase, but I don't know if they are selling the Tablet.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Balzard:
Yes, I know, but someone could buy it and ship it, and I would simply have to reimburse him via PayPal.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] KOCTA:
I just waiting for Certified Preowned tablets. I hope they could appear in a week or two.

B&N used to give 30% discount on refurbished Nooks.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] xdahgary:
Double cash back on Black Friday now. That's 16%.

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[HTC EVO 3D] dastin1015:
As many of you know TrevE has helped to discover CIQ problems that were prevalent throughout a plethora of devices. Due to his efforts to educate us in what was going on in our devices CIQ has now issued a C&D to him. I urge you all to read this article and please help spread the word: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/carrier-iq-sues-treve/

Petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/tel...iq-to-leave-treve-along-and-stop-tracking-you

BREAKING NEWS!

TREV WINS

Mountain View, CA – November 23, 2011 – As, of today, we are withdrawing

our cease and desist letter to Mr. Trevor Eckhart. We have reached out to Mr.

Eckhart and the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) to apologize. Our action

was misguided and we are deeply sorry for any concern or trouble that our letter

may have caused Mr. Eckhart. We sincerely appreciate and respect EFF’s work

on his behalf, and share their commitment to protecting free speech in a rapidly

changing technological world.

We would like to take this opportunity to reiterate the functionality of Carrier IQ’s

software, what it does not do and what it does:

- Does not record your keystrokes.

- Does not provide tracking tools.

- Does not inspect or report on the content of your communications, such as

the content of emails and SMSs.

- Does not provide real-time data reporting to any customer.

- Finally, we do not sell Carrier IQ data to third parties.

Our software is designed to help mobile network providers diagnose critical

issues that lead to problems such as dropped calls and battery drain.

Here’s what our software does:

- Our software makes your phone work better by identifying dropped calls

and poor service.

- Our software identifies problems that impede a phone’s battery life.

- Our software makes customer service quicker, more accurate, and more

efficient.

- Our software helps quickly identify trending problems to help mobile

networks prevent them from becoming more widespread.

We look forward to a healthy and robust discussion with EFF that we believe will

be helpful to us, to our customers, and to consumers that use mobile devices.

We welcome feedback on our products and understand that Mr. Eckhart and

other developers like him play an important role by raising questions about the

complicated and technical aspects of the mobile ecosystem.
[HTC EVO 3D] SolsticeZero:
Wow, they're actually suing him? For exposing spyware? That's ****ed up, yo. I will do whatever I can to spread the word on this.
[HTC EVO 3D] ericwgarza1:
Posting this link on everything I have access to. This is typically big company BS! Keep up the great work TrevE.
[HTC EVO 3D] sdsoundguy:
Already spread to all my social networks TrevE has done great work and he has my support.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
Going to be putting this into my signature and spreading the word. This is an absolute outrage. I will never be doing business with ciq, and neither will the 100 other people I tell. Also going to be contacting CNN, and some other news contacts. Say good bye to your business ciq.

Treve if you are reading this, you have our full support, I may be in contract.

-Brant
[HTC EVO 3D] luckylui:
Got ur back treve! Posted on my facebook,google+,twitter,myspace. CIQ can kiss my ass! Ha. They wanna play like that, we got the support right here and everywhere now! People like there privacy, and ciq dont like that. Scumbags.

hTc 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] luckylui:
We need to put this on dev section for all to see!!!

hTc 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
The word(s) of the day...Fah Q CIQ
[HTC EVO 3D] flonker:
Here's some data for CIQ to collect: you're not going to win this one.
[HTC EVO 3D] Ruki_Uki:
Wow, that is some bull****. It sounds guaranteed that he will win this fight. But agreed with everyone else, the more we spread the word, the more we help, and the closer he comes to winning. TrevE all the way!!

Sent from my double barrel Shooter. BANG!
[HTC EVO 3D] Ruki_Uki:
Lmfao! Very creative

Sent from my double barrel Shooter. BANG!
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
I'm surprised CIQ is doing this when they likely are not at fault for most of the issues currently. It's more closely tied to HTC and sprint since they license to use the CIQ software and do with the info how they see fit.

Even more so it was shown that HTC modified their version a lot making it much less able to be turned off. That in itself is the main issue too. Allow an actual opt out and most if not all issues are gone. HTC/sprint chose not to so that and that's where most blame should be put between them two.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
This is true. They did however make a patch for it to be removed. If you do remove it they give you the finger by making hboot 1.5.....I think....right?
[HTC EVO 3D] flonker:
I agree with this also, just didn't want to drag the thread off topic. This lawsuit by a company HTC is in bed with is the final nail in the coffin for me and HTC. I won't be buying another HTC product. And this phone was my third straight HTC.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
not just htc thing is in loads of phones. Good luck finding one without it. Just HTC modified theirs more than others from reading what Treve has posted.
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
Here is the company's sales email. Send them a message sales@carrieriq.com
[HTC EVO 3D] luckylui:
Thabk you! Ima send em a nice **** YOU ltr :)

hTc 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] Ruki_Uki:
I'm typing mine up :)

Support TrevE! Fah Q CIQ!!
[HTC EVO 3D] ch1naski:
CIQ probably feels like they are getting a bad rap. But they know what the software is capable of. They signed a contract with carriers. That contract could have had limitations on what ciq would be used for, but obviously the dollar signs in their eyes blinded them.

On the other hand, their software has security flaws. They should have tested it more thoroughly. Oh, wait.....that code is meant to be a backdoor data collector and key logger. Hmm. How do you patch a security hole in code that is made to be a security hole?

Ciq should be taking legal action against those that are using the code to the extent that the carriers are....unless that's what they contracted it out for (in which case they should just accept the well-deserved criticism and bow their heads in shame)

Ever thus to deadbeats.
[HTC EVO 3D] dannyboyex:
If everyone is posting on twitter maybe if everyone uses the same #tags it may get more notice.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Using the same tag is key.
[HTC EVO 3D] Papa Smurf151:
Nasty email sent. Thanks

Edit

It wasn't that nasty. I didnt use foul language and told them we will not stand for this and we will fight back and bring this out to the public with a vengeance
[HTC EVO 3D] sniperkill:
Hey guys, I'm not so sure if sending them nasty emails is the way to go about it. We need to show them that we (my fellow forum members) are not as low to the ground as they are. That we are a educated, respectful, hard working community. I personally don't think stooping down to their level will get us the response were looking for.

If your going to email them, as I did, try and be respectful, and show them that we are not gonna stoop to their level. Show/tell them that we here at xda will not turn our backs on, or let them walk over, our fellow xda member, and our friend, TrevE.

Remember, we can get a lot further with them when we treat others with respect. And just cuz their not acting like civilized people, doesn't mean we have to act the same.

We need to set us apart from them. This is just my opinion, I'm not trying to say that anyone is in the wrong,. Peace my brotha's
[HTC EVO 3D] Bamba1260:
Let's keep this at the top.

Shared on G+, facebook, and twitter.

We won't let this just 'blow over'.
[HTC EVO 3D] luckylui:
Good point sir. Let me re write my page here, I shouldve thought smarter than them :)

Kill them with kindness ;)

hTc 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
Hmm took my creativity and ran with it...I like it

Support TrevE!! Fah Q CIQ!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Bamba1260:
Well said. +1
[HTC EVO 3D] Riff76:
We need to take this up to HTC again, I mean this code is in their stock kernels! HTC is aware of this ****. I say we Bootloader them again!
[HTC EVO 3D] Ruki_Uki:
I hope you don't mind :)

Support TrevE! Fah Q CIQ!!
[HTC EVO 3D] luckylui:
Im liking that idea! Mine if i can put that on my sig?

hTc 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] Ruki_Uki:
I say go for it and show the support! :D

Support TrevE! Fah Q CIQ!!
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
No problem don't mind at all the more the merrier

Support TrevE!! Fah Q CIQ!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
+1 did u see the one and only carrier iq you tube video in response?

Support TrevE!! Fah Q CIQ!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] oohaylima:
Wow. Really? Since when is identifying a security flaw a crime again? smh
[HTC EVO 3D] Karl:
Sign the petition to suppport TrevE

http://www.change.org/petitions/tel...iq-to-leave-treve-along-and-stop-tracking-you
[HTC EVO 3D] dastin1015:
Added petition to OP

私のエボ3Dから送信される。
[HTC EVO 3D] gunfromsako:
Signed thanks!

Support TrevE!! Fah Q CIQ!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] AndroidFileHost:
I would sign but I'm not sure I should. Me and ciq may or may not have already had a run in over the past week too. Lol but I may or may not have recollection of this ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] guitardoc64:
I'm passing the word. We have to let all of the carriers and manufacturers know we don't want to be spied on.

Sent from my EVO 3D with Tapatalk pro!
[HTC EVO 3D] Karl:
that was cryptic
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
I live in a hill billy run state, posted the petition on my social networks and signed it. People round here don't take kindly to their unalienable rights like free speech being trampled!
[HTC EVO 3D] sacredabyss:
I'll definitely go for TrevE, can't imagine how the world of Android like without devs like him.
[HTC EVO 3D] Ruki_Uki:
Negative, I haven't. Link??

Support TrevE! Fah Q CIQ!!
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Remove the tracking part and I'd sign. You can't tell carrieriq to stop the logging when its not them that implements it on the phones to begin with. They provide a very valuable service for carriers and device manufacturers that is really needed in this day n age. Carriers need a faster way to see issues out in the field rather than have to deal with the delay of customers calling over and over reporting dropped calls and bad signal and slow speeds and such. Getting ones n zeros of info from the device is best way to provide best service and be able to be quicker to fix tower and device related issues that come up on the fly. Also for manufacturers like HTC it'll help them know what apps cause problems and system related issues that may arrise. Also showing what things people use the most helps them provide better product and key in on our main usage more to improve those aspects.

Now the big issue here is how its implemented and that's flat out HTCs and sprints fault as TrevE showed that the HTC version of carrierIQ is stripped and provides no opt out at all. This is not a carrieriq problem near as much as its an HTC/sprint problem.

Our efforts need to be better focused here. Fight carrierIQ against their treatment of TrevE and that's it. Focus the rest on HTC/Sprint having NO OPT OUT at all in their phones version of the software and push for more security with said logging like we did before. The fact HTC/Sprint puts this in the phones puts the burden on them more than anything else. Hence that's where we need to focus efforts mostly when concerning the lack of opt out in the phone.

It's not carrieriq's fault their software is in out phone the way it is, its HTC/sprint that decided to include it in the manner they did. Obviously when stripping CIQ of its opt out option sprint/htc didn't think it would cause issues.

Sorry end of rant.