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[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tomeks:
No, it is not more dangerous as any others custom kernels.

example given here do not destroy or damange your phone.

it is more about the coding and understanding, but generally all the developers have something like that in thier codes so from my point of view this kind of war is sadly always about money and fame and that is why it started just after app publishing (not the first, not the last, we already had it here, eg original dev section which contains for eg intratech rom and general one which contains some original dev)

for one gpl dev want open source and higher ethics and when somebody is starting to sell, not breaking the license, they are going berserk as you saw here (sometimes they are right, sometimes not) .

the problem with that discussion is that it have no point for general public because majority people here are not and was not developers and they do not understand any examples and terms used in the discussion. and those who are able to check the source code could always do that and discuss.

and that is more back to the topic what should be in the development thread discussion and what in the general one or QA :-) because topic discussed here for sure is connected with dev, but not the majority of the posts in that section :-)

my 3 cents :-)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] JJEgan:
OPEN SOURCE YEAH is what some one posted

My thoughts are that open means open it can be criticised or pulled apart .

Should the criticism etc be behind closed dors not in my view i would rather read the ins and outs in the actual thread so as i can make up my own mind .

We did have in the early days kernels with fudges to give high false Quadrant scores and it was other devs that pointed that out not use ignorant of the facts users .

jje
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] 13pointseven:
My fav kernel to date 'pheonix tweak' is an excelent addition! Any plans to include mDNIe color and sharpness into kernel to enable modification in cm7 or plans for ics compatability?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] chareos12:
1.24 - GTalk stays connected

1.25 - GTalk disconnects (pushing me offline) little later I power off screen

Back to 1.24 - GTalk stays connected again.

Hoping for a 1.26 release including 1.25 improvements AND 1.24 GTalk complete functionality :-)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Nitrogen:
a lot of gpu errors in stability test and reboot after few minutes of testing
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] :
Lionheartx has a suspendprofile?

Mine still goes up to 1200 when screen is off...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] :
The kernel runs without problems on cm7.

But is it possible to support cm7 key backlight? Atm it is not possible to change the durration or something else in cm7 device settings.

Gesendet von meinem Samsung Galaxy S2
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] 13pointseven:
Stability? I've not had a single crash yet?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Nitrogen:
grab "stabilitytest 2.3" from market and run cpu+gpu test with full details

and plz dont post screenshots of fake results with quadrant hack enabled
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] gokhanmoral:
it is certainly not about money nor fame.

just as an example and for your information, I have created my kernel thread in "android development" when I was in this stage of development (only using others' work without anything new in the code).

since compiling and modifying and merging kernel code may be considered to include a little more knowledge and skills than cooking roms I guess mods allow kernel threads to be in this section anyway (although I believe it is not very trivial).

and remember the laundry ball ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laundry_ball ).. there are millions who still buy it (I guess it is not sold in the US anymore). It also bothered me just as these lionheart "super-uber optimized and highly customized" claims. there is absolutely nothing to defend for that. There are already 3 developers who are very sure that there is something wrong in those claims and you guys still think it is for fame and money?

you can get exactly the same snappiness by flashing lionheart.zip that I posted in my thread to my kernel, to neak or to several others' that is using netarchy's patches and I mean EXACTLY.

if you love this kernel, use it. nobody wants the development of this kernel or the app to stop.

there is a saying in my language: you gain dignity harder than you earn money.

there may be lots of people who respect knzo for his work and efforts, but I do not, not after reading the latest posts and inspect his sources again.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] AndreiLux:
I hope you changed something drastic in Wheatley (can't see as it's not in your sources yet), because you just implemented a governor specific for a idle state which comes from a different processor architecture and actually does not apply to ours.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] rzat:
Yet for me void/phoenix is way more stable and smooth than last few version of syiah with/without variuos scripts/tweaks.

Works out of the box and for that i respect knzo.

I dont think any of the users found whole discussion interesting so please continue in private like knzo requested
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Entropy512:
knzo lost any right to keep this discussion private when he made clearly public false claims regarding other kernels.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] rzat:
Can i have a list of whos involved so i can skip their posts ...

Even if he did, thats between devs. I can see how this detract the value of knzo kernel. Therefore doesn't give any right to flame this thread.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] 13pointseven:
My bad on the quadrant, forgot about the I/O hack - now disabled :)

As for the stability test it seems you were correct. With Stock clock and voltages both CPU and GPU I got nearly 1500 GPU errors within 5min. Using OC/OV set-up (see image in previous post) I had system freeze within 1min :(

I've never used this application before and will keep this in my toolbox for future use. Have you tried this test on other kernels? SiyahKernel for example, how do they compare in regards to errors?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] iamsmallpang:
hi,

how to solve kernel didn't match CWM

after i flashed Phoenix v1.25
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] freemini:
As I'm not a developer(not even close), I will just say that I REALLY don't care what knzo has done to whatever God damn governor Lionheart is based on as long as it just works great.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] rizcom:
Current charge voltage interface.. anyone using this as currentwidget Isn't Working
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] cheewaca:
After reading all posts of discussion everything has been very clearly. Thank's to Entropy512, Gokhan and others to open our eyes...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] khassanove:
U can also flash .tar with darky tool ;)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] h20pt:
Looks really good! Unfortunately, can't try it because i'm with MIUI right now.. Too bad :(

But good luck anyway, it looks promising ;)

P.S: É sempre bom ver um novo kernel, especialmente um tão promissor e vindo de um tuga :D

Boa sorte.. Mal mude para uma ROM oficial testarei-o logo ;)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] brendonwardmusic:
Everyone's hardware varies in certain degrees, that would explain why some people are having SOD. Try removing the single CPU support when screen is off.

Sent from my stupidly fast and amazing Galaxy S2 running CheckRom & Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
Of course both.

Less crap = less CPU is being consumed = more performance = more battery = less kernel size. Everything's related.

And the proof of this is, besides being the most lean kernel for S2, I'm also receiving reports such as this one: "Finally found time to do some benchmarks. Very good (best ever) results with Linpack, Nenamark and CF-Bench."

Nope.

I had the S2 exactly how he had and he was having SOD, I wasn't.

But I'm getting there.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] bungknees:
Im still getting the occasional SOD, though not as bad as the alpha kernel, at least i can wait 30 sec and it will wake up again. So its getting better, just a little frustrating.

Cheers.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Forseti_Jan:
Just flashed beta 8 using cwm. So far seems smooth but to soon to speak out an verdict.

Battery life is most important to me so looking forward to lots of deep sleep! I do not seem to be affected by the SOD bug. Will report back on battery life and such in a day or 2.

Keep up the good work, I'm really liking the community building path you've taken.

Running latest hyperdroid btw

Edit: typo's
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
Tomorrow I'll most likely release charlie with a few fixes to see if finally SOD is gone.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Thedonk13:
beta8 is running buttery smooth!!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] i04055:
Glad to see you here knzo :)

it's quite sometime since I taste your work on my OB and so long time since I used original Void on my O1...

Exactly the kind of kernel that I need...

Always love your work, i'll give this kernel a shot...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] sunwee:
i havent changed any brightness settings between kernels. But i notice the screen seems dimmer. Is this done on purpose?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Thedonk13:
i gotta ask...Lionheart, where did ya come up with the name? my gamer side says FFVIII...but it could be anything..
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] justsimple1:
The best way to get rid of SOD is by flashing the following script and than flashing void. beta... I am 99 % sure it will do the job...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1166954
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] s2d4:
that script deletes scripts in your init.d folder, deletes cache, deletes dalvik cache.

I really doubt that is the cause for SOD..

EDIT:Weird way of deleting entries in init.d too... rather than explicitly delete stuff doing line by line with non standard naming conventions..

just do

delete_recursive("/system/etc/init.d");

would make more sense, but anyways....
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
No need for that. SOD was fixed in charlie and it got another performance boost. For what is worth, I reach 5000 in quadrant with 1.2 ghz and *without* rawr. No other kernel is near this, let alone higher.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] s2d4:
Just read what's inside the rawr script.... funniest thing ever :D
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Thedonk13:
just pulled a 5100 on the quad....greatest kernel EVERAWR!!!!

ps - 3rd run = 5500!!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] HotlipsH:
@knzo

Between digging in nandroids looking for the SOD bug and answering questions here, did you find anything regarding WiFi going haywire in Beta deep sleep?

Also I have a humble request. Please add some I/Os and Governors. Even though Lionheart and Deadline seems good not being able to choose for myself makes my baby feel like an Iphone ;) Im pretty sure noop and ondemandx would not bloat the package... Pretty please :D
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Thedonk13:
so far he doesn't plan on doing either...he has already stated he wants this to be a small and light weight kernel...i/o and governors will create more weight...thats the opposite of what he wants to do....if you need i/o's and governors, i would suggest siyah or TJK....both are good and will give you the ability to do what you wish...

but please...don't be coy and try to belittle this amazing kernel by stating it is making your SGSII more like an iphone...that's just pretty pathetic if you ask me..
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Jagdish84:
Test beta version working great over here after having problems with first beta version.

Awesome job, smooth n furiously fast indeed!

Cheers.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] uppon2:
First 24 hours of use. VERY Snappy through menus. You can feel how lite it is. Reboots seem to act strange with Capacitive buttons staying on for excessive amount of time at power down. Battery seems to be going quite well also. I have only just recharged full and testing for another 24 hours and will post back

This is probably the best kernel I have ever used for a 1st attempt. WELL DONE!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
This is what I'm talking about. A user who never step foot on this thread and whose activity is only on Siyah kernel, and comes here only to post this, for the first time. Sad thing really.

I've had enough with this attempt to discredit me and all I need to say on these ridiculous accusations are on my above reply. It pretty sums up the whole situation and shows how wrong and completely off they have been since the beginning by saying the tweaks came from netarchy and other things.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] freemini:
Don't stop just because some people don't like what you're doing there's a lot more that like it a lot.(myself included)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tango280581:
Well ive said it before and ill say it again. This is hands down the best kernel ive used. Absolute quality.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] cheewaca:
In a forum everyone has a say. Don't worry i'll never post here after this.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] apeiron6:
Knzo just ignore such posts and don't use time and energy on it. Your kernel is excellent and you should be satisfied with it.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] 13pointseven:
+1 on both these mate!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] paaaulo:
@knzo

What about this post - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=21787289&postcount=1143?

Could you write something about those changes described by Entropy512?

Stating that 3 other developers are wrong isn't really convincing. That would be nice to read proper answer.

BTW Phoenix Tweaks 1.2 reverts default governor & scheduler on boot for me. v1.1 worked fine.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] caanda45:
Interesting thread, do not understand half of the technical talk...what I do understand is the phone likes the kernel and the battery life is fantastic.....keep up the good work!!!!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
You're still beside the point. I'm not stating they are wrong on that.

I'm stating they are wrong when they accuse me of getting the code from netarchy, neak or claim that "morfic tweaks" is a misleading thing that never existed and I invented.

Here's the recipe for LionheartX:

1. Patch 1 - http://omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=commit;h=49b015ce38edeb484fb2efa09048c23e903f49d6

2. Patch 2 - http://omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=commit;h=fd187aaf980c45f1d16a94a846faa68e24de03c8

3. Patch 3 - http://omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=commit;h=6dad2a29646ce3792c40cfc52d77e9b65a7bb143

4. Patch 4 - http://omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=commit;h=57df5573a56322e6895451f759c19e875252817d

5. Patch 5 - http://omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=commit;h=2feb690c20d52e22c7874a1e090245e6a4344ce6

6. Patch 6 - http://omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=commit;h=ef598549b28014ec2ea7574d4e793728e0e33d02

7. Patch 7 - http://omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=commit;h=e8951251b89440644a39f2512b4f265973926b41

8. Patch 8 - http://omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=commit;h=326c86deaed54ad1b364fcafe5073f563671eb58

9. Apply morfic tweaks - https://github.com/franciscofranco/Nexus-S/commit/e189d02cbb32c7aa400056ebc7959f3938b2a7ea

10. Apply arighi's early behavior - https://github.com/arighi/linux-gt-i9100/commit/ee69f4c39f61a94b6ff0dcd3ef9172e527958048

11. Change tunables such as thresholds - I picked the values

12. Port Smartass suspend code

13. Some changes on the u64 idle_time

14. Remove all commented code

15. Remove module_init(cpufreq_gov_dbs_init);

If you do all this on conservative, you'll end up with

exactly

LionheartX. Now tell me, where is the netarchy code? Where is the neak code? Where is the siyah code? And was I a liar on the morfic or arighi things like Entropy claimed I was? This is where I disagree with what they're saying and I can't give any more proof than this. They are being disrespectful and questioning my word and this is not only intolerable as it is childish. What is this, a witch hunt? I keep repeating myself...

As for that entropy post, those are the kind of posts that I'm interested in reading. If he came here saying that, without the flaming tone and the false accusation attitude, all of us would win from such. On that particular subject, regarding the morfic tweaks, he says it's dangerous and he does have a valid claim to be honest. However, I've used these morfic tweaks in all my conservatives on all my kernels and never had any problem. I notice a difference to the better by doing it and I prefer a good practical experience rather than theory. However, I do promise I will look more into the subject. If you feel scared, you can always pick another governor but this wasn't problem since void alpha.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] pepe2909:
I noticed that the brightness is weaker than a kernel stock or Siyah kernel.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] zikarus:
This kernel and Abyss 3 are the best balanced on my device. Both are rockstable.

Been testing Phoenix since Monday evening and it performs very smooth and fast with no microlags (as eg on NEAK whichever gov chosen). 6181 Antutu points wirh just 5% battery left are the best result on low battery I ever had.

Battery life awake seems fair enough for me - a tad better than Siyah but not as good as Abyss. Did not have a chance to test overnight consumption yet.

All in all Phoenix is my favorite at the moment. Abyss 3 on 2. followed by Siyah 267on 3. place...

GT 9100 tapatalking
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] paaaulo:
I meant that part of his post:

That is what bothers me.

What about my Phoenix Tweaks problem? v1.2 reverts default governor & scheduler on boot for me. v1.1 worked fine.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Reflxxx:
:confused:
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
paaaulo, all the answers you need are on my previous reply.

Read again the last paragraph.

As for your phoenix tweaks problem, report it to the issue tracker and describe it in more detail please.

Anyway, here's a sneak peek at a possible incoming feature:

Phoenix is still small. The increased size is due to all loadable modules (> 10). If you don't insert them, the kernel is as light as void.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] remorema:
do I really have to?

cause you can do it for free. not that im a big fan of neak but on neak kernel you can make changes directly in recovery.

btw found a bug on .24

connecting the charger with phone off will boot into recovery

Tapatalked from "The ICS Killer"
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Pfeffernuss:
Yes that would be a very very nice implementation!

Some peeps do still love your work and effort, no worries ;)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Ferdimage:
good kernel, but is the sdcard unable to mount via recovery, i need to flash some files..

how is this done now?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] apeiron6:
I can't enable Wheatley governor. I use application and after enabling it and restarting my phone the governor is still missing. Could someone help me? Thanks
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
It's working here.

Try mounting/unmounting /sdcard and /emmc before clicking "mount USB storage".

Problem identified, fixed on next release.

Problem identified, fixed on next release.

This only happens with the following governors: smartass2 and lionheart.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] zikarus:
Sorry, but that is honestly a bit disgusting. Imo you better refrain from leaving such comments. You seem to have forgotten your joint venture with DamienGTO (a former I9000 kernel dev guru) who was banned from xda for not publishing his kernel sources. At that time you were cooking Roms and eagerly trying to participate from his knowledge about kernels. Since you jumped onto the Void Echo train (marketing NEAK as "even smaller") you should better keep quiet... Kudos to gokhanmorals attitude.

Just my 2cent

Edit: have to withdraw the kudos to gokhanmorals attitude since he behaves no less immature and childish as all other flamers

GT 9100 tapatalking
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
Please, don't throw more wood into the fire! :p

I tied the subject here, no need for more dwelling.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] giorgosaero:
Knzo your kernel is the most smouth and stable....thank for your amazing work....
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] simone201:
My adventure with Damian was totally different, i learnt a lot from him, about tweaking and such things...really loved his work, really!

As you can see, NEAK is the lightest kernel here for GS2, Phoenix is about 5MB or so, NEAK is 4.5MB, and with 1.3.3 it will be 4.2MB big, and let's say that we're using the same compression type (XZ), but on mine i DON'T USE COMPRESSION on initramfs, and that makes the real difference to make it faster at boot and anyway small (as i don't use a lot of stuff into initramfs, just a lot of scripts, that are very small)

Before replying like this, search for a foundation of your sentences...

my 2 cents, again, that's all

PS: and i fully agree with both entropy and gokhan's ideas

EDIT: please stop this flame war, really....
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Kaboosey:
Lol, was just thinking of asking knzo to implement clock and voltage control and then, it's there! :)

Hopefully it will be there in the next release, and every updated version of kernel and app will be better.

Don't stop what you have started, some of us is still using this kernel. Just take into account of other dev's critics/ideas IF it suits you and neglect what doesn't suit you.

All in all, been running 1.25 and it is running stable and smooth for my usage.

Thanks and keep up the good work! :)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
- removed to avoid throwing more wood at the fire -
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] zikarus:
Peace - but your initial statement as cited above was just way beyond. Sometimes it is better to remain silent...

GT 9100 tapatalking
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] netchip:
I don't have the source code reviewed yet. But if it is copied, why you should you care? If you think get ill of it, then don't publish source code. It's simple as that.

Knzo did a great work, OK, entropy said a few things about fail safes being removed, that's bad. But he's doing still a great job! If it was my work, then I shouldn't care.

My 2 cents
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] snout:
Some feedback ref Wheatley.

6hrs in bed phone was at 64% - now at 63%, lost 1% over the 6 hr cycle of sleep.

Thats good for me knowing its not burning fuel asleep.

thx
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Nitrogen:
siyah is ok

neak, speedtest, phenomenal - reboot
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.aprold.phoenix

Thanks to i04055 we now have a banner (promotional graphic), thanks man!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Areg8_6:
been on void since 1st version, now on 1.25 , IMHO THE BEST KERNEL FOR SII
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] ankit1986:
Awesome kernel Knzo.....Of all the kernels that i've tried, this one's the best.

Keep up the good work.

Just a small request, if you could also implement BT mouse support, it would be perfect.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Lulavc:
It´s too expensive here in Brazil due to exchange rate. You can buy 4 cokes. It´s like R$ 6,81. One can of Coke costs like R$ 1,50.

I believe you toke the wrong decision.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] freemini:
well in Norway(almost 23kr=$3) you can't even buy a bus ticket, a coke is 35 or more :D