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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] letters_to_cleo:
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant... when you have a screen that is scratch resistant, it simply means it has minimal give and take resistance to any hard objects being thrown at it....

I always keep this rule to myself that gorilla glass is scratch resistant.. BUT NOT SCRATCH PROOF. Normal wear and tear applies, you are going to bound to scratch/chipped your Note's display one way or the other.. depending on how your daily usage is....

That is why screen protectors exist.. They are not there without any purpose.

If some of you haven't seen this video, feel free to click on it (I'm no way endorsing this but it sure is one good lesson by listening to the girl on how to protect your smartphone from imminent scratches)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upgrade...-phone-really-screen-protector-173351434.html
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ngocdao:
I put my phone in back pocket because less friction there :D ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] xj10bt:
I just had mine replaced by AT&T insurance. It fell 30 inches and landed flat face-down and shattered the screen. I had to pay a $200 deductable. A new screen assembly is $240.

I find it hard to believe insurance will cover scratches, Gorilla glass or not.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] se1988:
I haven't insured my phone at a phone company or store, its insured at a norwegian insurance company, along with my camera and lenses. it covers EVERYTHING, no matter what the reason. only requirement is that the device no longer operates as normal. well, with scratches the S-Pen will not be able to work optimal. hence, they will cover it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ngocdao:
My phone owned for 5 months still dandy as ever . Only one small chip on the silver part and I treat my note like ****. Clumsy bastards
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ngocdao:
You-> this is a n7000 thread. Your 717 is not welcomed here LOL :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] altae:
With every smartphone I buy the first thing I do is to get a screen protector from ZAGG. This way I have never had any scratches on my devices. It costs only a few € and protects the screen perfectly without a significant deterioration of the visibility. For me it's the best solution.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] seraph011:
Same here...even though it looked really nice without a screen protector and claims that gorilla glass can't be scratched, I didn't want to take a chance and bought a Zagg invisishield on day one.

With that big a screen and being used a cell phone, It's going to be exposed a lot and I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't have to live with any scratches.

Besides, invisishield barely changes how the screen looks like unlike other screen protectors so it turned out pretty well with it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] OmarMDQ:
I have mine with a noname chinese screen protector (the only one I could get). It's really invisible and sensitive, but... the plastic scratches easily with the SPen.

I have a Motorola Milestone I (= original Droid) without a screen protector o case and in two and a half years (with several drops...) the phone is badly battered but the glass is in pristine condition.

I think with the screen size of the Note the glass is more exposed, mainly if used without a case. I guess I have to change screen protectors once or twice a year...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] altae:
My recommendation: Get a protector manufactured by ZAGG. It lasts the whole lifetime of your device. They are almost indestructible. And if you compare the costs of one ZAGG protector to the costs of several no name ones you are definitely better off with ZAGG.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Arthur Hucksake:
I put a Martin Fields on this morning and its already starting to look battered. Can see where the pen has written with normal pressure.

Can see a few specs of dust under the protector. I got this horrible feeling that when I take the protector off it will be scratched. lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] se1988:
How does ZAGG react to the S-Pen? Every SP I've tried is scratched badly by the S-Pen...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mramzi:
Today I saw about 5 scratch on my note screen, realy sad for that.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] altae:
It does show marks after pen use but they disappear after a few hours. The protector always regenerates itself
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] getharoon:
Using screen protector from first day :), so no scratches here
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] mtbmdk:
No scratches here, but I do have a pinhead sized chip in the glass, kind of like a chip in a windshield. I can see the shadow of it on the digitizer below. Dosen't affect operaion though. Can't figure out how it happened, no drops (YET)....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Djoudi:
How to Repair Scratched Eye Glasses

Hi,

I have found a method that some people say that it works,

How to Repair Scratched Eye Glasses

I didn't tried it yet, :confused:

Have you tried this method?

Djoudi
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] guitarpete987:
I have had my Motorola Photon since October '11. I'm pretty rough on the thing, and I don't use a screen protector.

I have ONE scratch near the top of the screen because I was stupid enough to put it in my pocket after I had taken a paper clip away from my student. Even rolling around in my pocket with a bent paper clip for a couple of hours resulted in a very minor scratch. The thing has fallen flat on its face several times and has otherwise come away unscathed.

The bottom line: Gorilla Glass is pretty tough and it shouldn't scratch at all under light usage.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tbong777:
LOL Yes it can be scratched indeed.

Mine is pretty scratched up. Although I bought his Note used here on XDA and really did not go over it with a microscope. They could have been there already but I doubt it. The seller wlould have mentioned them and the pics did not show them....so Meh I did it ! LOL

I found two including a smudge scratch last week. I carry in my pocket and and am pretty careless all in all. It does affect resale but not that much on Ebay. I still got $400 for an S2 a couple months ago on EBay (I since bought another for far less) . The one I sold had a deep 1/4" scratch I was able to photograph. Could not get $350 on XDA though. People are far more concerned about that kind of thing here on XDA. I will post a sale here but low balling is the rule especially if the phone is not mint (and even if it is)

I think living near the beach causes more opportunity for sand. I dumped the flip cover for that reason. Sand gets caught under that thing.

I believe the S2 glass was better. I had that much longer and used under the same conditions and had less scratches than this. Which means "easily scratched=easily unscratched. LOL

This one is like a few grains of sand were ground into the glass...

Normal scratch from pocket junk.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] garytube:
...mhh i carry my note in my pocket with coins, keys etc and i dont have a tiny scratch..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tbong777:
You really have to look hard under certain light to find scratches on these things. During normal use none can be seen. I used to use screen protectors on the Captivate. Spent more on them than worth it when I sold the phone. I recently bought a used SGS 2 as a back up before i flashed the brick LPY ROMs It was pretty trashed physically. I may have paid $70 less than "market" because it had scratches and nicks on the plastic...The owner saved that much and more in "protectors"

Hated the rubbery feel and orange peel surface of the Zagg. Others were not as smooth or fingerprint magnets had me constantly wiping the phone as those could be seen on black back grounds and a PIA to apply without bubbles I could see. . When I go to sell the phone I post the "damage" pics and I am still ahead not having spent $30 on screen protectors and even more on bulky cases. The Note is big enough already.

I don't "wear" the phones but I use the hell out of them.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Psyloid:
My incrdible S has some scratches and it's gorilla glass, and i'm uber carefull with it, my guess its from that few times i accidentally put it in my pocket with keys and/or coins. they are very tiny though and not really scratches, more like speckles and it doesn't impair the screen when the phone is on

as for screen protectors they come in many different qualities, the one's i bought for my incredible s where so **** that i peeled it off imediatly
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Akiainavas:
Do not try this method with glossy surfaces. You won't get rid of scratches and might create a matte spot on your display as my friend did with his iPad using this method.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Djoudi:
Thanks for the feedback

Thanks for the feedback
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bigstarrynight:
Use jewellers rouge in fine powder form.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] :
I personally find it hard to believe that any glass screen, regardless of how it is treated, is 100% not scratchable.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] majormickey:
The Gorilla Glass can still be scratched with basic material harder than its own such as diamond and silica/grain of sand
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AlexProfesor:
I had a small scratch on the first week, I asume came from cleaning the screen. Probably some dirt particles came in between...

I tried to forget I had it. Until you made me remember!!!

Corning gorila glass is not that tought, after all. It seems like someone said, there are certain conditions that weaken the glass?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] saif123a:
I intentionally screeched my device with stone chip just to test the glass resistance..and to my bad I really regret it....but them I used screen protector and it's nearly invisible now..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] timteka:
Positive. Too deep scars on my Note. Very much dissapointed of this "amazing" Guerillaz. The screen protector helps, but still...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Cruzaders:
Galaxy nexus DOES NOT HAVE gorilla glass. My brother has a g nexus and its full of it while my g note has only 1 T.T

Enviado de meu GT-N7000 usando o Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Pat.:
Don't listen to people who say not to use a screen protector even if its Samsung saying it .. screen protectors have saved many screens from scratches & possibly some may even have been saved from breaking, mine cost £1 off eBay & doesn't alter the phones feel.

If you can't bare it fine then remove it but try first.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazibasit:
Protectors are for everyone.

Prevention is better than cure.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] NV30:
Wrong.

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/htc
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
Good question. The screen could be made out of dragons tails for all we know.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Unsinkable II:
Each to their own I guess.

I don't even notice my screen protector. I'd sure as hell notice a scratch on my screen though, and mumble expletives to myself each time I switched the phone on.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] twinblade:
Just guessing here:

I have an old SE Xperia X1 WinMo phone (and I'm looking forward changing it for a Note very soon) and the difference between previous Gorilla glass phones and the Note could be the pen itself.

While using my X1 with a screen protector, sometime the pen scratches the protector surface for no apparent reason. The pen is always the same but I guess that at random a very hard grain of something (such as metal or some sort of crystal dust wandering in the air) got in the wrong position between the pen and the surface and... voilà, the scratch is served.

Even my very old WM5 had the same issue that was solved by the protector (after five year of usage the screen surface under the protector was in mint condition).

Previous Android and iOS phones using Gorilla glass were used with fingers only and the problem was not existing. Even my X1, used with fingers, did not had issues (I got only three scratches in 2 years of finger usage).

I guess that a screen protector could be a good thing to apply especially for heavy pen users.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] darkmax1974:
For those who trust GSM Arena's info, it does say "Gorilla Glass" under "Display".

GSM Arena Galaxy Note entry
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazzi76:
Regardless of opinions... Complacency doesn't get us anywhere.

Bottom Line (after close inspection).

- I have 2 devices with Gorilla Glass.

- 1 intensely used for 2 years has 1 tiny unnoticeable scratch on the screen even though the metal body has scratches everywhere. (Motorola Milestone)

- 1 intensely used for 1 year has no scratches at all. (Galaxy Tab 7)

- Have had the note for 3 weeks and several scratches are noticeable on the screen and I am very disappointed...

This thread was to simply inform as with a phone like this prevention is surely better than cure.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] halfmanhalfmachine:
Just going on a thread I read a year ago and seems to have been updated with your link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=846866&highlight=gorilla

Still hasn't been out for 2 years though...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AnandA777:
Do you know what material it was that scratched the screen?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ChodTheWacko:
I put a screen protector on my Note today, and after staring at the screen very carefully under light I noticed an inch long, very thin scratch.

I can't see it unless the light hits the screen at a specific angle. But it's there.

I'm pretty careful what I put in my pockets, so If I had to take a guess, I'd say it came from my keys.

Anyway, I have a screen protector on, so I'm all good now.

(actually, I'm probably going to now drop the phone and shatter it before my case arrives)

- Frank
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ciphray:
I too have an extremely faint scratch just above the home button, took several minutes for me to get someone else to see it, can only be seen at a very specific angle and only when the light hits it just right, i'm wondering if it's actually the glass that's scratched or whatever coating they give it to keep fingerprints off it

i've kept it only in my pocket and took extra care to not put anything else in with it, I've never scratched a screen on a phone prior to this, iphone 3gs, hd2, and vibrant being ones I never scratched in months of use
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Tubgirl:
Isn't it possible that the scratches comes from the stylus? Or if sand comes between the stylus and the screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ChodTheWacko:
I use my stylus a lot, and I have only one scratch on my screen.

I don't think it's the stylus.

- Frank
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Tubgirl:
If something sharp comes between your finger and the screen (like a grain of sand) you'll immediately notice and remove it. It the same thing happens on your stylus maybe you won't notice it? (just speculating of course)

Brgds... /Tubgirl
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] crysalis786:
Sadly, i have experienced a similar hairline lengthy scratch on my display. I am currently awaiting the SGP screen protectors. Once you had installed your screen protector, did you find that it had reduced the visibility or possibly completely removed the scratch from view?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ChodTheWacko:
I don't see the scratch anymore, no. Although I don't exactly go looking for it, and it was pretty hard to see to begin with.

- Frank
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] EarlZ:
If your also keen on cleaning your screen with an optical grade micro fiber cloth you are bound to get more scratches than expected. I got this through experience with the Samsung wave.. I was so OC and I regularly wiped it even if im not using it. So far my G-Note has no scratches and I havent wiped the screen yet.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] speedofheat:
From what I know, it appears that the Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy Note have "fortified glass" from the Samsung / Corning JV rather than Corning's Gorilla Glass. I am hunting for verifiable sources to back this up. I had my note for a week before I applied a screen protector but had no scratches in the mean time.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] spfraggle:
I've had my note since November 4th and its used heavily every day and I use the stylus a lot. So far there are no marks, scratches or blemishes on the screen. My device was ordered and shipped to the UK from Clove.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] yslee:
Why do you guys put the phone together with your keys? It's like having an open flame next to the pile of newspapers and hoping nothing will happen...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Mrglass86:
one month with the note i have 2 scratches that can be "heard" with the spen!! i am not the biggest fan of cases but im in the market now, sigh, "you were supposed to be the chosen one!!!" i said to my scratched phone, my gorilla glass atrix is still scratch free from February
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Viamonte:
I didn't read anything on this thread aside from the OP, so excuse me if this has been affirmed before.

My Atrix has gorilla glass and has more scratches than a ****ing tiger's den.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] seeking:
gorilla glass is a brand name just like kleenex. there are other brands of reinforced glass besides "gorilla glass." I'm not sure of the Note, but the Galaxy Nexus does NOT have "Gorilla Glass" but it DOES have an alternative reinforced glass screen which is just as good/bad.

The same thing with the Note is probably true.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] randypurcz:
Samsung now owns/partners with Corning. The glass used is gorilla glass with out the ape.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] undrwater:
Stylii can pick up grains of material that can scratch a screen, particularly when dropped. From my old PDA days, a habit for me was to run the tip of my stylus across the pad of a finger (preferably the thumb) to detect and remove any foreign object prior to using it on the screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] schaggo:
My a..! According to that my Desire Z has Gorilla glass. And that effer is scratched like f...! On the other hand my GFs Moto Defy also has GG and is in pretty good shape. Screenwise at least ;)

As several writers already pointed out, dust, sand and other small objects may be attached to the stylus tip and WILL scratch the screen. I learnt this lesson the hard way on many bygone Windows Mobile devices...

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] yentlequible:
Such mixed opinions! Now I am worried for when I get my Note soon...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] schaggo:
Dont be affraid. I just put a (in case interested: Vikuiti adqc something blah...) protector on and I'm glad I did since I already have a scratch in it. Dunno if I would have scratched the screen the same way, but glad I didnt try...

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] pakster:
Does the screen protector anyway limited the responsiveness of the touchscreen? Both the s-pen and fingers.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Carmageddon1984:
Also, doesn't the plastic based screen protectors slowly wear off the edge tip of the S-pen?

I feel like it was designed for the smooth glass touch which does not abrade the edge as much as a less smooth screen protector would?

Asking because every other pen I know such as on my Dell Latitude XT2 and other Wacom designed, have replaceable tips - but we were not provided with any spares in the packaging of the phone, so its probably not replaceable?

Has anyone considered this long-term effect of using screen protector on the Note?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] remixtech:
My desire HD is full of little scratches.. If I look the screen next to light the screen is really attacked !

But I don't care, this is normal things.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
Don't worry, the screen is fine.

Do some more research if you're still worried.

Here, here and here is what I found.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] xAnimal5:
Ok I have had my note for a month now and for 3 weeks I had no scratches with no screen protector.

The screen felt the same as my S2 and my Iconia w500 which both have gorilla glass.

GORILLA GLASS IS NOT SCRATCHPROOF.

GORILLA GLASS IS NOT SCRATCHPROOF.

GORILLA GLASS IS NOT SCRATCHPROOF.

Gorilla Glass is made to ensure that it will not break due to a drop because it stops vibrations and shock and minimal to medium levels. Just get it into your head that we HAVE Gorilla Glass and it's not scratchproof.

I hate seeing these threads. Since I purchased this phone, I've seen about 50 threads where people go, "It's not gorilla glass, I just scratched my phone blah blah blah."

If you want scratch proof go buy an IshitPhone, but good luck when it falls. Oleophobic glass is notorious for how easily it shatters.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] galaa:
im using my note without screen protector, now im getting worried reading ur post :(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] qazzi76:
Errr...

I have several Gorilla Glass devices that are definitely more scratch resistant than the Note.

Either the Note uses a variant of Gorilla Glass that is more scratch proof than previous generations or it's not Gorilla Glass.

Regardless - the quality of the Glass used in the note screen is especially inferior to other products that feature Gorilla Glass as evidenced by myself and others.

On another tangent...

Only People who either:

- lack critical thought processes

- Follow the masses (Easily led or like to be controlled)

- Suffer from the so called Apple "Reality Distortion Field"

- Have money to burn

- "it looks pretty" LOL

- Don't really care about the actual practical application of their phone or devices either way.

Buy apple products - (which are all crappy and fundamentally flawed in some way or the other).

Please don't bundle me with them - LOL!

I mean seriously Steve Jobs (God rest his soul) tried to offer the iphone 4s as an "upgrade" and I'm embarrassed to say people lapped it up LOL.

I'm not one of those people.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Skiddledank:
The second mine comes out of the box it's getting a screen protector.

That's just good form, I've done it with all my phones. Hell, I was doing it before they made screen protectors for phones. I used to use the camera LCD protectors before they did. Only wish Wrapsol was making a SP for the note. I like their products. If you do this, you don't even have to use the microfiber cloth that comes with many SP's today (because the screen is already as clean as it will ever be) as many say the cloth itself scratches the screen.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] foxmeister:
Have you tested that hypothesis empirically?

I mean, take something, e.g. a key, and deliberately try to scratch the screen on your note. Take the same item, and perform precisely the same test using the same amount of force on an item you "know" has Gorilla Glass.

Anyone prepared to test this out? I doubt it! :)

Simple facts of the matter are that even for devices which are "known" to have Gorilla Glass, you'll find reports on XDA from people who've managed to scratch it. I lose count of the number of times I've read "but it's supposed to have Gorilla Glass". I also lose count of the number of times that I've seen the Corning website quotes as "proof" that a particular device doesn't have Gorilla Glass, when the site itself explicitly states:

As has been previously stated in this thread, Gorilla Glass is *not* scratchproof, and as such is not a panacea that should be relied upon.

We know that Samsung has a JV with Corning to produce fortified glass - we also know that most of the patents for most processes used to produce Gorilla Glass are now expired, meaning that pretty much anyone with sufficient resources can now produce their own version of Gorilla Glass - they just can't call it Gorilla Glass.

Personally, I choose to just take extra special care of my devices because I think that screen protectors basically look like sh1t! ;) For my Note, I have the Samsung flip case and that pretty much guarantees that I won't be able to scratch the screen when putting the phone in my pocket.

Regards,

Dave