yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
i agree daggy. :) but it stuttered when i tried to play with it.

and to everybody who talks about cost, if that wasn't an issue would you still stay with your kindle?

plus, it has one button. what recovery will you use? one where you press that button a certain amount of seconds to scroll up, down, etc. ? thanks :)
[Kindle Fire General] Thelgow:
They have a touchscreen recovery in the works apparently.

Also I would never trust any test that uses internet in bestbuy. I worked there for a year and it was the worst. They didnt even have a separate network for the display equipment, so if people kept going on sites, it would crash up the sales machines and you couldn't punch in/out.

Horrors.

We had to use a verizon mifi to get any real work done.
[Kindle Fire General] sodaboy581:
You commented about stuttering in 2 of your 3 consecutive posts.

I believe this thread is the "why you picked the Kindle over the Nook Tablet", not the "why I like to bash Kindle thread".

I will say that I have no issues playing video on my Kindle Fire. Netflix, Prime, or the conversions to MP4 I've loaded onto my device.
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
yes, i know what the thread says, i created it. yes, i did comment about it because i noticed it but thelgow is right (thanks thelgow). thanks for your input too soda.

but again, if the NT and KF cost the same, which would you all buy then, and why?
[Kindle Fire General] spyz88:
Even if they were the same price I would keep the Kindle Fire. I love Amazon's ecosystem and free streaming with prime. I also love the silk browser.

I also own an iPad and have owned most of the HC/GB tablets and I must say I love the experience on the Fire.

EDIT: Also, I dont know what people are talking about with stuttering. My Kindle Fire has not skipped a beat. Maybe the display ones haven't gotten the software update yet.
[Kindle Fire General] daggy1985:
Even if they both cost the same, I still would go with the Kindle Fire, as the previous post stated, amazon has a better Eco system, and J still really like the interface! Plus, I own the nook color, and the nook tablet just feels like the same old same old. The fire is refreshing! :)
[Kindle Fire General] jolars:
Is this thread a subtle troll?

I like my Fire, it just feels right. I bought this device to consume media on my couch and it does that extremely well. No complaints from me.
[Kindle Fire General] ajq:
First to market of the two, price, and immediate content for a serivce I.already subscribe to.
[Kindle Fire General] pestilent:
Felt this would be the more popular device, based on pre-order numbers, and would therefore attract more devs. The price point is already very low, but the potential for CM9 on a tab at that price point makes it even more interesting.
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
got my fire. thanks guys! :D
[Kindle Fire General] daggy1985:
Congrats enjoy! :)
[Kindle Fire General] bogatyr:
Amazon Video, market and Kindle all work great on my Nook... all worked from day one to boot. Oh and didnt require root.

To each their own on which device they want, but the eco-system can be put on either (I would assume Nook stuff on Kindle works too).
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
I appreciate it :)

--sent from my glacier.
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
but you had to sideload it right?

--sent from my glacier.
[Kindle Fire General] GadjetGirl59:
I am a long time Kindle user and a Prime member. I stopped buying physical books over two years sgo

I love my new Fire!
[Kindle Fire General] CandyNJ66:
I am curious since I only have a Nook Tablet, can you sideload/directly download apk files from your browsers too without root? I would assume so.
[Kindle Fire General] ZzFDKzZ:
I been shopping with Amazon for many years. So I chose them.
[Kindle Fire General] SikYou:
Had the nook color, couldn't stand that stupid little hoop or loop or whatever the hell that thing is on the bottom left of the NT/NC. That is just weird to me.

As for one button and recovery. We should soon have a fully functional touch screen recovery, no hardware buttons needed ;-)

Sent from my Kindle Fire
[Kindle Fire General] Thelgow:
If you support the Nook, then you support Barnes and Nobles,and if you support them, you support retards sitting on the floor and blocking aisles when you're just trying to see what books are in stock.
[Kindle Fire General] bogatyr:
If you mean downloading them through my browser and not a market, yes. If you mean using adb, no. Amazon Market is on it now though so i can get anything i want that is offered through that directly without the web browser.
[Kindle Fire General] bogatyr:
Yes, just download and choose to run with package installer.
[Kindle Fire General] bogatyr:
Never had that issue. I support both Amazon and BN as I buy books from both. Neither vendor has done wrong by me.
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
lolololol

--sent from my glacier.
[Kindle Fire General] nerdgirl:
I didn't choose the Fire over the Nook - I chose it in addition to the Nook I already own. I have a Nook Fire that is rooted with MIUI. It is totally awesome.

The Fire I am holding out judgement on until someone roots it and gets me a more useful / functional ROM like MIUI. I have rooted it and am in the process of getting my Google apps onto it.

I actually think that I might prefer the form factor of the Nook to the bulkiness of the Fire. But the out of box UI on the Kindle is pretty decent for normal humans - and the integration with their cloud services is pretty cool. I just hate the closed eco-system for Android apps. Hence why rooting is the way to go.

I also have an iPad and have no complaints about that. At least I can get decent apps on there despite Apple being closed bastards as well.
[Kindle Fire General] marcosv:
I am going with the kindle fire for a number of reasons combined:

- Thanks to the fine work of contributers to this site, the Kindle Fire does everything I want it to except for the limited storage space. The extra space would come in handy on long trips away from wireless connectivity. Given I don't plan on such trips to next year, this is a non-issue for me; by then I would have bought a better tablet.

- I want to enjoy the Amazon coolade to the fullest. I already got a Kindle ebook reader and Amazon Prime account.

- The concept that getting around the Nook Tablet's locked bootloader maybe extremely difficult is a major turnoff. Raises the possibilities that devolpers will get bored with it sooner than later.
[Kindle Fire General] RobertMunch:
Not enough free storage 11 GB for B+N killed it for me.
[Kindle Fire General] rockstarar:
nook color?
[Kindle Fire General] skeeterpro:
I'm sure that what he meant.

---------- Post added at 10:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:18 PM ----------

But the capability for an additional 32GB on a uSD would MORE than make up for it!

---------- Post added at 10:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:19 PM ----------

I loaded the MIUI briefly and really didn't like it. Huge widgets mainly.

Agree on the overall "feel" of the build. The NC/NT "feels" more substantial when holding and using it. The KF felt like one of the Chinese knock-off's...at least to me. But for the bazillion people who would never imagine rooting or other mods the KF will suffice for them. Frankly, I'd be surprised to see much dev work on the KF once the holidays pass. Same with the NT. Too many choices of tabs and few devs with free time.

Just an idle thought.
[Kindle Fire General] aarik9:
The price, the content (prime member), the free paid apps on amazon market and the screen (gorilla glass).
[Kindle Fire General] bogatyr:
The Nook has all those but the price.
[Kindle Fire General] bogatyr:
Fixed with root.
[Kindle Fire General] Grizzld:
As many have already said: I'm an Amazon Prime member and have been using a Kindle for the past couple of years. B&N didn't offer anything compelling enough to make me switch.
[Kindle Fire General] skeeterpro:
And how much does one shell out a year for Prime?
[Droid X General] Zeklandia:
rI have a Droid X on the GB kernel with MIUI 1.11.9 ICS framework and I just tried to MOD the power off menu to have a CWM Recovery option like in normal MIUI, but I have a -=BOOTLOOP=- and I have not backed my system up since upgrading to MIUI ICS. I can't get CWM recovery with hard buttons, so if anyone knows how to do that on the Droid X, it would be handy, and I can get to the bootloader screen. If anyone knows how to browse Android's internal storage system with a PC from the bootloader screen,:D, if not,:eek:.

PLEASE HELP!!!!!

PS: I ain't a n00B

PPS: I got my download here : ht tp: // droidmodderx. com/ rom-ics-miui-test-1-11-9/

PPPS: A system-only sbf for that might work, too.
[Droid X General] masterchung89:
miui cmr

Do you know the miui way of getting to cwmr? Since you get past the boot logo I assume you can. Just hold down the volume down button when the blue led is on. You will get to a screen that has CPU recovery and other options. Go to recovery and latest. Hope this helps.
[Droid X General] FC127:
How did this work out for you?

Sent from my DInc2
[Droid X General] Zeklandia:
CRAP!!

It worked the first time, but now the boot logo shows for less than 3 seconds and no LED comes on.

My USB debugging is enabled, but it doesn't show in the status bar and ADB just says 'ERROR: DEVICE OFFLINE'. I need to create an NVS_MAP.bin, and only adb shell works (I have done it before, but it disappeared). Please help me!

Fixed everything except the missing nvs_map.bin thing. When I tried this :

rootzwiki.com/topic/5650-wip-guide-nvs-map-creation-aka-how-i-fixed-my-wifimac-issues/

It said:

Cannot stat 'nvs_map.bin': no such file or directory
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] squidkhaw:
Hi guys,

official miui came together with the cwm v5.0.2.7 and when I was creating nandroid backup it just can't create Md5sum.. I tried to re flash it with the previous version of cwm v4.0.0.2 but I just end up in bootloop.

Thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BlackHoleDroid:
Is there any way to decrease the time it takes to disconnect the call after you click end? At first I was under the impression it was due to animations, but that is not the problem. I checked the build.prop as well and couldnt find anything about that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] littlemegaman:
Bump. I know what you mean and would be interested as well. Hit "End" and actually end everything.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] rockstarar:
just curious :)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] xdahgary:
Better screen quality and expandable memory via uSD card.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] downsay:
History of the nook color. More ram. Sd card slot. More internal storage (yes I did not look into storage enough initially, but now that it is rooted, I have access to it anyhow)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] rmm200:
Looking for a worthy successor to my Sony EReader. The Nook is acknowledged to be the best reading experience of any of the readers. The NT should carry this tradition forward.

Having 200-some books in EPub format - I was not about to switch to a proprietary, locked-down format with Amazon. That would be as bad as going with Apple.

I have two rooted Android phones - which I love. The chance to pair the Nook reader with the Android technology was irresistible. I have been playing with writing code for Android for a couple of years - really looking forward to the extra real estate on the NT.

Then there is Barnes and Noble. Well, you can't have everything...
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] captcarl:
The rootablity of NC of which I own and love, each of the other nooks, all of which I own and the hope of more on the NT. I have even gifted the ATT+wifi nook to family and still retain all of the wifi only units.

It is great to see root achieved here but why not to the boot loader?

Captn
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] RussianMenace:
Mostly because of owning NC, thinking NT would follow in its steps. Didn't quite pan out as of yet.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] downsay:
Things are coming along quite nicely. Remember, the NC wasn't rooted and fully customizable right away.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] RussianMenace:
Nor did it have a locked bootloader. :D
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] gus6464:
Haven't decided yet. Have a Fire right now but I'm 75% sure im going to exchange it for an NT because of the UI sluggishness and also the browser really impressed me in the NT.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] dermotti:
Screen, speed, and the ergonomics of the tablet. Im not a fan of the flat glass tablets. Im not a fan of cheap feeling tablets. If i was ide just get an acer iconia
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] orlandoxpolice:
I heard the silk browser was better, but w/e.

I chose the NT because of the exterior build, the sd slot, better hardware specs, and better screen.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] CheapGuy:
Expandable memory, more on board storage (or so I thought), greater possibility of new ROMs and rootability.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] acruxksa:
Biggest reason is uSD slot, but the extra 512MB of memory and mic are nice as well.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] jdubr:
More RAM

Expandable storage (SD card slot)

Better display

Nicer looking (to me, anyway)

I already have a Kindle Simple Touch
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] r2tbone:
The 20% discount, duh.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] tedwards70:
Memory Basically

I like the Nook because of the expandable memory. It's a shame that ads out there are misleading the consumers...saying it has 16gb over the Kindle's 8gb...Kindle allows you to use most of it. I bought both of these to try. I like the thinness of the Nook and even though I had to buy a memory card its interface is better. I hope B&N can offer up some of the memory or I can figure out how to root. I've never done it before and I don't want to end up with a useless tablet if I don't root it right.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] thatdude90210:
Partly because of the specs, more ram, plus allow micro sd. Reviews like Engadget have said that videos play more smoothly on the NT.

And partly because I like the covers for the NT. I had a "Canvas writer's cover" for my NC before and really like the mounting system, it's really solid. I bought a "Leather writer's cover" with my NT.

Those covers are awesome, just like carrying around a book. I didn't like the ones for the KF, the book cover ones for the KF all seem to have cheap straps around the corners for mounting.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Texx-it:
for the specs...

more ram and sd card implementation are the main reasons.

i live outside the US so i need to use the device in particular with files saved on. so i need more space as i can and the extra slot gives me the flexibility i need.

more ram of course sounds nice and grants very good performances.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] bogatyr:
No reliance on the cloud for storage.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] DssTrainer:
I couldn't decide... so I bought both. :p

My wife saw the kindle and assumes it is a christmas gift for her.. so now I have reason to keep it. The Nook Tablet is for me.

The bumped HW specs is the main reason for the NT

The OS on the KF, however, is fantastic.

I am sure we will start seeing amazon launcher ported to other tablets (already done!) and would be great to have the Amazon launcher on the NT. But the locked bootloader is like someone pissing on my ice cream. NT is already losing the popularity vote in the media, as all they are talking about is "KF vs Ipad"... The NT is completely shadowed by the KF simply because Amazon knows how to market.

But NT is killing the few extra million that the dev community would be worth by unnecessarily locking their bootloader. I can somewhat understand locking it for phones for carrier reasons. But there is absolutely no benefit for B&N to lock the bootloader on this. You are only raping yourself of millions from people not buying and not buying future versions because they will assume the same.

But back to the 2 tablets...

NT feels SOOO much better in your hand due to the curved bezel.

KF is a brick. Gets hard to hold after a while.

NT hardware is faster

KF software is better

Both can be rooted

Both have Google Framework

Both have amazon appstore and video player

Both run GoLauncher and ICS Launcher perfectly

I was not able to run Zeam, Launcher 7, and a few others on either device.

Wave Launcher runs great on both, tho on the both, the resizing of the swipe location was really glitchy, but other than that it works fine. Just use the gesture area presets to find a spot.

I like dual launchers (amazons and go) on the KF

I have no desire to keep the default NT launcher.. it is just garbage compared to KF.

I am still playing with both... I think it depends on where development goes to determine which one I give my wife for Christmas :P
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] orlandoxpolice:
If they are making no money off the hardware sales, what incentive do they have to unlock the software. They would sell more units yes but their profits would likely decrease.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] DssTrainer:
Selling more units = getting more people to use your device = getting more people to get your next device = getting more people, period.

Getting more people = getting more visibility to your product line = getting more people to become B&N members for the perks = getting more money and a stronger base in a world where bookstores are fading fast.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] rockstarar:
Russian, I agree.

but what about the bootloader?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] rockstarar:
cheapguy, how is there a greater chance of development with a locked bootloader?

DssTrainer, which is smoother, which plays back video better?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
hey guys, im in urgent need of a xperia play logic board, because my sim card slot is damaged due to a bent pin, can anyone that is striping their play and selling parts please pm me (:
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CZroe:
Wouldn't it be far easier to just wire up the bent pin directly?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
what do you mean? the actual pin is acctually like fullly bent and riped off.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CZroe:
I mean that you would make and attach a wire or something else to make the connection because it would actually be easier and cheaper than taking the whole phone apart and anyone with a soldering iron could do it. Now, that I have seen that the sim contacts are actually on a module, I see that you can just buy that module and not replace the entire motherboard.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
sure? because its the sd card module that comes apart, not the sim slot, and if im to soder a wire, it means i need to unsoder the metal plate thats repaining the sim like the cop covering.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CZroe:
I see. I thought they were on the same module considering their proximity. If it means avoiding buying a new motherboard, I'd rip the plate off before I bought another.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
hmm true true, would you know where to buy a new logic board?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
Logic board? This isn't Apple dude. We don't use made-up names for parts to sound cool.

Anyway, if you check your local craigslist you might be able to find people selling broken ones for parts. Or perhaps Ebay. I've bought replacement parts for a LOT of electronics on Ebay.

And as CZroe said, you could probably just replace the module instead of the whole board, or if it's not part of a module, solder a small piece of wire.

Sent from Silent Earth 3
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
alright, ill see, i dont think theres a craiglist in australia? haha but ill see, ill probably be going with sodering a wire onto the connectors.

Thanks anyway. and motherboard haha sorry.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CZroe:
"Logic board" is actually a pretty old name for any circuit board containing logic circuitry and components (doesn't need to be a "printed" circuit board or "PCB"). :) I hear it more often when talking about devices and "motherboard" more often when talking about PCs. I hear mainboard more often with older large appliances (think: "TV" or "arcade machine"). "Backplane" or "planar board" were actually really common ways to refer to a PC motherboard at one time!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
Mainboard ive always called it :p
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
haha, i call it motherboard haha but yehs, so you rekon sodering a piece of wire or something wouldnt hurt it?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
Provided you do a fine enough solder job, and it's conductive enough, I assume it would work.

On my old iPod mini, the molex connector for the button panel broke because those models had a defect in the design. I had to use a large magnifying glass on a stand (like what wristwatch repair guys use) and a sewing needle attached to a soldering iron to fix it.

You may need to do something similar.

Sent from Silent Earth 3
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
outch, thats going to be painful.. you think repair shops will be able to repair it?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
Possibly, but in my experience repair can be expensive.

Sent from Silent Earth 3
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
what was your problem? how much it costed?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
That fix I did on my iPod mini was quoted at over 100 dollars at a repair shop, for both parts and labor. I fixed it myself without any replacement parts in an hour.

Sent from Silent Earth 3
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
wow... but the thing is im scared of burning any of the parts with the sodering iron. and what wire would i need?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captain67:
I'd take a wire of similar width to the pin, and flatten it so it's the same shape and size.

If you do the soldering a little bit at a time, and don't hold the iron on too long, it should be ok.

Sent from Silent Earth 3
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technolust109:
alright, thanks for the tip, so basically all i need is a sodering iron, piece of wire and side cutters to shape the wire?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DZMCO:
Hi

just followed the exact steps on the following thread TRYING to Install the UAE vERISON

xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1338416

and i got the message PASS ON odin but now the phone is off and not responding to any command, did i just brick my phone?

Please help......
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] RMXO:
have you tried pulling out the battery & trying to get into recovery or download mode?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] DZMCO:
I pulled the battery tried the download mode but no luck there.

not sure how to put it into recovery mode.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] dr.ketan:
Home + Volume UP + power to entre recovery
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] nbass668:
you didn't brick your gnote :) don't worry

I used the UAE version and it went perfectly fine... I think all you need to do is go to Recovery mode and wipe cache and reset factory...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lexarjump:
Hi all, I had a look around on Google but couldn't find any reports on this. I think I know the answer to this but is the UK Galaxy Nexus 4G capable?

I noticed on an fcc diagram that the device had both HSPA+ and LTE receivers.

Am i correct to assume that the GN can be used on a 4G network in the UK (As soon as they bring it over here that is)

Cheers guys, :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
No. There is a GSM/HSPA+ version (being sold in the UK now) and a CDMA/LTE version (being sold soon in the US). That's it, no GSM/LTE version as of now.

There aren't any LTE networks in the UK anyways?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lexarjump:
Cheers, yeah that's what I thought. I bought my Galaxy Nexus 2 days ago now - would of been good to have the option though.

Yes you are correct - As I said before, not LTE support in UK yet :( Probably not until 2013.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NatTheCat:
They are testing 4G in London as we speak. Hopefully the test will continue to grow and cover a wider area soon.