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[HTC Amaze 4G] TheCrow1372:
I want to see FULL reports please just more comments and real pics showing all necessary times/usage/&percent of use, I'm waiting to give response till I've fully/truly used my device on wifi/4G/gaming anything ya know not just unplugged and how long it takes to drain (sorry) guys not trying to sound rude just saying.:thumbup::D:)

Thanks

"It Can't Rain All the Time", sent from my AMAZE 4G/ENERGY BLUE
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
I have but when comparing I had longer screen on time and more battery percentage left than recent b3 as well longer stand by time which I try not to count. Again tho I want to be wrong so I will continue testing. :rolleyes:

Let me know what you experience

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I would rather have that be in a separate thread than to spam this one with battery comparisons. Besides everyone's usage will always be different. It's just the way you use your phone. (Pure Mobile data WiFi off)Example if I have phone 4-6 hrs unplugged with screen on 2.5-3 hrs continuous and phone Is dying that's normal to me. Then I could also have 13-17 hrs unplugged time with screen on time of 2.5-3 hrs sporadically that's also normal.

Between the two they are completely different with almost the same screen on time. The difference would be in how you use it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheCrow1372:
It's not spamming It's asking for full details and sorry if people take offence to it but I like to see full details, yes I know everyone's use of their phones are different also others need to see so they can compare.

"It Can't Rain All the Time", sent from my AMAZE 4G/ENERGY BLUE
[HTC Amaze 4G] azcledel:
Seems like. Opened a can of worms here... not my intention at all :(
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheCrow1372:
No bro not u or anyone just a post in general, not directed at u at all and sorry if u took it that way

"It Can't Rain All the Time", sent from my AMAZE 4G/ENERGY BLUE
[HTC Amaze 4G] inyallan:
i noticed that v22 is out of beta stage. is this the same with beta3?
[HTC Amaze 4G] azcledel:
Beta 3 was turned into official by faux a few pages back. He said no need to update if tour running beta 3
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
7:40-8:20 music with data off I went from 100 - > 90

8:40 - 9:30 data usage that dropped me from 90 - > 63

Maybe It's just me coming from a blackberry but how are people saying that any androids have decent battery life?

Our amazes are just awful even with fauxs incredible kernel and I'm starting to get upset every time I pick up this phone.
[HTC Amaze 4G] inyallan:
Great! Thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] ccbm3:
Have you tried undervolting? Go through a couple battery cycles to calibrate the battery. You'll notice the difference. Also make sure you're on intellidemand if you flashed faux's kernel.:cool:
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
Yep undervolted and intellidemand is active. My phone gets to ridiculous temperatures. Why do I need a phone that gets this hot all the time from just browsing the Web?

Also, 9:30 to 10:05 of searching the web = 63 -> 30% of battery life

Don't know what to think anymore, sorry for venting feelings, but I've had issues with battery life ever since I got the phone.
[HTC Amaze 4G] TadMSTR:
I didn't do full discharge cycles but between b1, b2 and b3; the latest one (now official 22) has had the best battery life that I've noticed. I use JuicePlotter to keep track of battery over time. It estimates how much battery you have left based on your usage. I also use JuiceDefender to switch data/wifi on and off at set intervals (I have it set for every 2 hours). I've been able to double my battery life (based on my usage).
[HTC Amaze 4G] ccbm3:
Calibrate the battery. Let it go through a couple cycles and you should notice a difference.
[HTC Amaze 4G] laggo:
I too have noticed a massive battery drain while using data, on many roms/kernels. Don't think there is much faux can do about that. It has to do with the radio and hardware used I believe.
[HTC Amaze 4G] misfit61871:
Maybe you need to track down any apps that may be draining the battery, I know maps will drain it fast. I'm getting 12-15 hours average use with SR 7.8 and faux latest kernel.
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheCrow1372:
What's your voltage and do you keep mobile data on all the time or have Skype and signed in always, I have same gov & frequency but low at 192 also I have profiles set up for battery/screen off/&charging

"It Can't Rain All the Time", sent from my AMAZE 4G/ENERGY BLUE
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
No programs running in the background, and this is with SYNC off. I have google now installed, might do superwipe tonight and install ARHD if mike releases a new version tonight. Hopefully that'll improve battery.
[HTC Amaze 4G] faux123:
Google now is known to be a battery hog on non-jb Roms
[HTC Amaze 4G] jordin1128:
Beat me to it but yes, I had to uninstall it b/c I saw the drain only after I installed it
[HTC Amaze 4G] mgp53:
I had similar battery issues. I did a complete wipe, reformat all but sd, Flash zip from scratch, restored the basic apps via TB (with data). Then flashed the kernel. My battery life has been MUCH better with the new Faux kernels.

When I just flashed over the old kernels/configuration, I was very dissatisfied with battery performance. It was worse then the prior releases.

The Amaze is power hungry, but the latest kernels, in my opinion, are a GREAT improvement.

NRG Blue and faux. good luck
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheCrow1372:
+1 and I also have set up profiles for low battery/screen off and AC charge, seems to give a much better bat life

"It Can't Rain All the Time", sent from my AMAZE 4G/ENERGY BLUE
[HTC Amaze 4G] faux123:
Amaze's LCD screen is a killer. I've lowered the brightness and voltage on that "sucker", so it should be much better than before. Also BT and WiFi are huge unknowns (no source == no fix/hax).

Oh, the Radio is another battery killer. We have the gimped LTE/HSPA modem (with LTE part disabled, but to what degree we will never know because Modem has its own firmware and WILL FOREVER be closed sourced).
[HTC Amaze 4G] zerocrack:
flashed v22 last night. Full charge this morning and i get around 10 hours and I used it less today than normal compare to 14-16 hours on v18. Both were with Google Now on. I disabled it (not sure if it necessary to uninstall it to save battery) now and will report back in few days and get better result hopefully
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
WIFI is a huge power hog IMO. I have better battery life with it off and using radio... I always thought it was the other way around lmao.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
It should be better with WiFi than data. And when google now was first available to us it drained my battery Like never before. I found out new maps for as well. I guess they work in conjunction. What happens google now pings every here and then to figure out your pattern of location. That is how it is able to know where you work, live and so on providing instantaneous maps to places you've been before and traffic as well your daily life. It's scary it figures you out there's actually a formula they created to predict you.

So I would say uninstall google now, freeze or stop google maps (it will unfreeze when you need or when you open the app) you can find more info with better battery stats. Check that out

Also I'm going to revert to 21 or 22 and try them out again.
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
The bottom line: you have to flash it and see how YOUR use affects battery.. and even the way we use it day to day changes too much for that to be perfect. There's just too many variables.

I fix cell phones for a living.. well, that is part of what I do. My battery temperature never fluctuates more than 77.7-77.9. Multiple batteries. Except on a bad battery, which got up to 90, and had bad drain. I've seen others with the issue, and it is always battery.. if it isn't, it is hardware. But first, if you haven't tried replacing the battery, do it.

Good advice, but remember it is about signal strength. Weak WiFi signal will drain faster than good cell signal.. cleaning the terminals in the case could help people sometimes. Also, if there's a problem app, an app like auto starts can really help.. keep apps from starting until you need them.

The amaze is not a bad phone, too many people have good results, but again, there are so many damn variables.. even making one small change, or updating an app that was written badly, can have huge impact.. so much of what people post makes it sound like they want cut and dry easy answers, but the truth is with technology, it just isn't that simple.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Couldnt have said it better! too many variables. I learned that here the hardway and of course thru your help. I was going to mention the battery. Heat means quicker battery drain and this applies with anything battery powered. If im home and this randomly happens I stick my phone in the fridge for like a min or two lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
I've never used a fridge, that would be a new one for me.. but if that works, then you may as well freeze the sucker!

Seriously tho, there are so many variables I feel like people are trying to consider.. and the thing they need to consider(before flashing) is the overwhelming(or not) support for better battery, or whatever they are looking for. If more people than not get better battery life, than I would say it is worth trying out. Period.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Actually I meant the freezer. Like I'll take a "water" break off my phone then yeah pretty quick cool down lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] justin lamantia:
Lol Ive done that a few times with the freezer works quick too.
[HTC Amaze 4G] TMAC 13:
My experience has been opposite, however I can say for sure that its because when I'm @ work (where there is little to no reception at all) I have MAJOR battery drain if I don't turn data off by switching to WiFi.

@ work with data on = 10-15% drain per hour minimum on phone standby

@ work with WiFi on / data off = 3-5% drain per hour on phone standby

Faux + WiFi only is the main reason for me keeping the Amaze since launch to now.

To be clear, my experience has shown that poor radio signal and our LCD screen are the two biggest hogs on the Amaze. Which sucks for me because I typically use both A LOT. But its an easy fix for me. Use WiFi and keep an extra charger at work lol

- HTC Amaze - Eclipze's Speed Rom 7.5 - Fauxy Edition
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
You were right faux. Flashed a new Rom with your kernel and battery drain ls much slower. Is there any way to modify screen brightness? I find that even at the lowest setting the screen is way too bright for usability in the dark.
[HTC Amaze 4G] faux123:
Already lowered on the kernel side, user space also controls the brightness as well and is responsible for minimum brightness
[HTC Amaze 4G] Snargaflab:
Errors while flashing that I resolved but I am curious about

I will preface this by saying I am running stock Telus ICS. I flashed the RUU for GB and then used the OTA through the stock recovery. Since My hpine is S-OFF I then flashed juopunutbears ICS HBOOT by placing the zip with the bootloader on my external sd. I then used fastboot to flash recovery and flashed a zip containing busybox and and superuser. These are the only modifications I made. So essentially I was on a stock secure boot.img. EDIT: I am using the latest testing build of 4ext recovery but I did try with clockworkmod as well and was unsuccessful still.

I was trying to flash this kernel for awhile and it would not flash. I was getting the error assert failed: cannot write /tmp/boot.img to /boot or something like that. Error code 7 I believe. I'm fairly savvy with this type of stuff so I looked into myself. It seems that that error only happened because a previous step had failed but the process attempted to continue anyway. The reason it could not flash that file is simply because it did not exist. It was not being created. In the recovery.log when it reached unpackbootimg.sh I got an error stating that the Pagesize was wrong and that the child worker had stopped with a response of 1. The process then continued and when it came time to mkbootimg.sh that failed because it did not get unpacked properly, and still continuing, ti reached the step where it tries to flash then realized the file wasn't there and said there was somehting wrong witht he zip (which I redownloaded serveral times, even older versions).

I deduced from this information that you are actually using our kernel and building it on the phone which seemed to be unsuccessful as it was not getting what it expected when it reached my kernel. I checked my boot partition for bad sectors and it came up clean. I eventually flashed a stock deodexed telus ICS rom that I found here that contained an unsecure boot.img and thenj tried to flash your kernel and it seemed to be successful. So my question is, was it the unsecure boot.img that finally allowed me to flash it? Is your installer expecting an unsecure boot.img and fails if it is secure? Or was there something else at play here?
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
Paragraphs are your friend. To be honest, I stopped reading after the first few lines. However, from the first part, I assume that your issue is/was the secure boot.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Snargaflab:
Not sure how that makes much of a difference but I split it up some.

So this will not flash with a secure boot.img, is that true of every custom kernel or is it simply that he unpacks and creates the kernel on our phones? I was under the impression that most other custom kernels come as boot.img without the need for the scripts and modules and such but I could definitely be wrong on that.

I'm assuming that this is being done on our phones because of the lack of drivers. I'm guessing he has to unpack our kernel to get them and then add his customizations and repack it? Why could I flash the unsecure boot.img but couldn't flash this? If you can flash an unsecure boot.img through recovery then couldn't you make it insecure/flash one in the process of flashing this kernel? Is this possible but not implemented?
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
Says in the op you need an unsecure boot image to Flash lmao. Mightve helped to read :P
[HTC Amaze 4G] Snargaflab:
I must be a retard, I'm not seeing it. I read the OP several times. It says at the top that this will work on ALL (all is actually capitalized) stock or custom rooted rom. I have a stock rooted rom.

EDIT: Yeah, I'm not seeing it. You shouldn't tell me to read the OP when I already did and it's not in there, that was a real douche move. A simple control-f could've saved you looking like a d***, the only time that page even says secure is when he talks about the secure ramdisk of the previous kernels.
[HTC Amaze 4G] rbaruch:
Well if it wasn't in the op then I apologize but I am 100 percent certain that it's somewhere in this thread. There are people on the past 2-6 pages discussing insecure boot images being a requirement.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Snargaflab:
Didn't realize I was expected to read 205 pages before posting a question. Since XDA changed I'm not even sure howto search threads anymore, either way my post contained WAY more questions then just that. I didn't come here to argue about my questions, I came for answers, if you don't have them then please do not reply to me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Guys chill, I've seen you both long enough here I think we're past this phase anyways I also stopped reading but does sound like you need an unsecured boot.img somebody also posted that like that last 20 pages or so.

Which you can also extract from a rom
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
I don't believe that the information is specifically in the OP. With that said, your profile indicates that you're an HTC technical support rep.; you should know, and/or be able to figure out how, to perform a search.

With that said, I still say the same as in my original reply; the issue was with the secured boot. The reason that I'd stopped reading your original posting was due to readbility issues.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
I am also trying to figure this out myself. I believe we need to extract framework and edit it in values not sure where. But what I ultimately want is to adjust the values for when it reaches a certain brightness to go lower than stock and when in dark to go lower than the minimum brightness allowed kinda like screen filter. And instead of full brightness set at 255 change to 190
[HTC Amaze 4G] Snargaflab:
First of all, I know people who work there that can barely tie there shoes. Don't make assumptions about the efficacy of HTCs tech support, it sucks. I no longer work there, however, updating my profile on xda is not high on my list of priorities. I am sure that the issue I was having was with the secure boot. However I asked several other questions. Please do not reply to me again, you are drawing attention away from my questions and your opinion is unwelcome and unwanted.

I got an answer to ONE of my questions from two different people, both of which felt it necessary to complain. One was lambasting my lack of formatting, and the other was presumptuous and rude. Neither of which I care for. If you can't read something that's not formatted properly then don't read it, and don't reply. And if you're gonna complain that my question was already answered then what about the other questions I asked? Are they answered? I don't believe so. So please, either leave me alone or answer my questions. I thank you both for confirming the answer to one of my questions, if that will be all your constructive input then please stop your input there.

Edit: I'm not trying to be a **** here, I just want answers to my questions and not to have to argue about semantics.

Edit2: Broke it up for ya
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
Have you, or anybody else, tried Lux Auto Brightness (Free / Paid)? It appears to give options to set the brightness below the system thresholds using root access. I've considered it before, but haven't had a chance to test it out as of yet though.

If you can't use proper grammar, punctuation, etc.; then, don't write it. If you can't be bothered to search for the answer prior to asking the question, why should we be bothered to give you the answer(s) that have already been given time-and-again? :rolleyes:
[HTC Amaze 4G] Snargaflab:
Thanks, you are generally a voice of reason, I'm not trying to be a **** but some people immediately started nitpicking me and drawing attention away from the actual questions at hand. As my post states I did fix the issue and find an insecure boot.img I was just wondering if that was for sure what it was that fixed it (apparently it was) and the answers to my other questions.

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You've got it backwards, It's your choice not to read it, I'll write whatever I want. Like everyone uses proper grammar on the internet. And I did search for the answer (just not in this thread because I wasn't sure how, WHAT A HORRENDOUS CRIME), and was unsuccessful. I don't know why everyone around here are dicks that focus on one of my many questions and berate me for not knowing one simple thing. I'm the bad guy here. I asked one question that was already answered and I didn't know how to find the answer to. I may as well be executed, I'm scum.

EDIT: Regardless, I don't even give a **** about my answers anymore, clearly this was the wrong place to post and expect intelligent responses relevant to my questions. Thanks for answering one of my questions and then acting like I'm the scum of the earth because I wasn't sure how to search. I guess you guys are just so smart that anyone who doesn't know something isn't worthy of you, sorry about that. It seems liek everytime I post here I get into a pissing contest over semantics and noone ever actually answers my questions. That being said are you guys aware of a forum that is more interested in intelligently answering questions then nitpicking the asker over stupid stuff that doesn't really matter?
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
Your welcome. It happens. We all just get our moments I'm sure you understand lol.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jwds1978:
Don't worry, XDA hasn't instituted the death penalty yet; you're safe. ;-P
[HTC Amaze 4G] Snargaflab:
Well I got replies from 4 separate people, 2 of which helped but were more of a hindrance overall by nitpicking me and drawing away attention, 1 that was helpful and tried to mediate the communication between me and the last two and one who offered no help but simply found it necessary to insert his opinion. Only one of my questions got answered and the rest are now pages back where noone will see them. Great job guys, you sure are helpful -_-

EDIT:: Oh and the question that got answered? I was already 90% sure that's what it was and just needed confirmation, none of my real questions even got answered.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
yes the unsecured image is what allowed to flash.I don't think it is the installer but the fact that the Rom is "unlocked?" Kinda when trying to flash themes and mods and battery percentage on a phone you need to have it deodexed(unsecure) logically

Complete stock = secured as to save you from fuking up your phone

Deodexed or custom Rom = unsecure

So when you try to flash something to a secure phone it won't go thru.
[HTC Amaze 4G] KnowledgeBroker:
I use lux autobrightness paid.. very great app, does a damn good job, and it isn't a resource hog. One of the few apps I've bought and I am happy with.

I refuse to become a part of an argument, but I do want to chime in. I read a few posts, and there is no reason this needs to be continued - it is disrespectful to continue to argue in a developers thread like this, and it makes it harder in the future for other people to find answers(since several posts or pages of posts won't contain their answer). Also, more complex questions can sometimes be better asked in their own thread, in Q&A section, to avoid cluttering a thread for development.

Another random fact, there is a triangle pointing left on the right side of screen, next to the "search all forums" field at the top.. clicking that gives you a dedicated search area, shows messages, etc. Or you can go back to the old display of XDA. Searching for just "flash kernel" in all amaze forums, by post, the 25th one had your answer- had you searched q&a specifically, I think it would have been the second result.

I and several others spent a lot of time making a bible for the amaze, 99% of answers can be found there, it is in my signature.. but everyone, let's be respectful enough to faux's thread and not continue to argue moot points or make it harder to search. Just think how much easier it would be to get all the answers we needed, if threads weren't filled with posts like this.. would be so much easier.
[HTC Amaze 4G] fcpelayo:
I tried it but couldn't do a proper set up. Seemed like it wasn't working properly. I had to keep adjusting values. Obviously the one that wasn't working properly is me lol. I'll give it another try
[HTC Amaze 4G] ATech:
I've been readin up on a quirky problem that just came up. Without coming across a solution. My WiFi just dropped suddenly and despite my best attempts to reestablish a usually very easy connection, has failed. I had to revert back to V21 to get goin again. :confused:
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheCrow1372:
That's extremely odd cuz I've had no issues at all, yeah I turn mobile data off while at home but who wouldn't and like I mentioned many times in this thread that I set profiles for my gov @ 1.62/Inteldemand and under volting at 17000 so I have profiles for these (battery low/charging/screen off & screen on) all great so far and that's since the latest came out THANKS FAUX!!:thumbup::thumbup::):beer:

"It Can't Rain All the Time", sent from my AMAZE 4G/ENERGY BLUE
[HTC Amaze 4G] masondoctorjt:
Hmm I've has no issues like that auto far, and I'mon WiFi all the time at home.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ATech:
I know its odd. Tripped me out when it happened and I couldn't get it workin again. Tried reflashing the kernel too, no go. I'm at a loss. Faux...any ideas? Or can someone please provide me with a DL link for v22 official?
[HTC Amaze 4G] inyallan:
Here yeah go sweetheart:

http://faux.androidro.ms/ruby-faux123-kernel-v022.zip