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[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I'm using my first ever HTC phone. I just came to say I think you all should shut up and be happy with what you've got. I don't need s-off to be happy so then you shouldn't either. The things s-off allows you to do are not a big deal to me, so they shouldn't be important to you either.

Obviously that was sarcasm.

Anyone remember when we first found out the Evo 3D was going to be locked down? For those that don't have much experience with HTC phones (or weren't around at that time) it wasn't much different. There were people *****ing about it in threads like this. And there were a few jackasses telling everyone to shut up and be happy about it, that complaining wouldn't do any good, that having root wasn't important or needed anyway.

Food for thought...
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Root wasn't important?who ever said that on xda? Lol I remember the second we got temp root I was in development section eating it up

No one said "we don't need root" and to deal with a locked boot

Some said complaining won't do **** because HTC announced BEFORE the 3d came out that they will unlock all NEW devices

YOU all wanted it NOW NOW NOW and that's why people said complaints won't make HTC drop it any faster...

This is the only option for many right now... HTC will not unlock anything more. . **** they might make the next unlock method more restrict..let alone any developer its good enough for right now and if you personally want anymore get to work!

Team up with all the people that want full s-off and do something about it.

MIUI Powered Shooter
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I know you probably think you're so clever and putting me in my place or whatever (after saying several times that you were done with this thread) but you are really only demonstrating your ignorance on this topic.

HTC didn't announce that all future devices would be unlocked until AFTER people complained about it. When they announced the Evo 3D, and started letting reviewers get their hands on it, the device was locked down with NO plan to ever unlock it.

People started complaining, and yes, several people on this very site argued that root was not important anyway and everyone should shut up about it because complaining would not do any good anyway.

Needles to say, the complaining DID work, and HTC announced all future devices would be unlocked specifically BECAUSE of all the complaining.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
ill use your excuse..... as you can see from the taptalk sig i was on my phone and didnt realize i was quoting the same person that is hard headed and argued his point with no FACT

this is a thread started by you.... IF YOU READ MY PREVIOUS POST I SAID "HTC announced BEFORE the 3d came out all new devices will be unlocked"

yes complaints from EVERYONE not just xda (and it didnt START on xda it started on HTC's facebook page which was LINKED to xda for more exposure) helped them realize we needed it unlocked

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1094893

AND all devices "reviewed" before the launch had ENG Hboot not locked down... some people even got a ENG bootloader if i remember correctly...

i agree with alot of the stuff you say... some of your info may be different time-line wise as reality... but hey... no one is perfect

as for me being ignorant on the topic.. i feel im more accurate and you feel differently.. thankfully my life doesnt revolve around other peoples opinions nor do i care...

stop thinking i am am against you... i hate the idea of not having full control over my phone... but i cant personally hack it for me or the community and make the s-on do a 180 and turn off... but im not gonna dedicate my time crying about it like everyone else including you...

i am simply giving a opinion on why i think HTC method is FINE... and all we have. (hboot 1.5 users)

you have some pipe dream that may happen but doubtful HTC will not give you complete access to your hboot. im sorry, i dont know why, but they wont. and it doesnt look like any developer will help you achieve it either.

you wanna debate, and trash talk, and have a pissing contest fine.. im stubborn and arrogant like anyone over the internet that has beliefs about something.... but please... please for the love of god take a look back one ****ing page and read what NEW HTC users have said...

where not all HTCnerdFANBOYS that have had every phone since the 6600...

and some of us just want people to understand something...

HTC METHOD WORKS AND ITS ALL WE GOT

STOP WISHING AND CRYING FOR UNICORNS AND DEAL WITH YOUR DONKEY!!!!!

EDIT****

and just for you so it doesnt seem like im saying DEAL WITH IT AND SHUT UP...

if anyone does not like the current unlock method devised by HTC then by all means, WRITE HTC, START A BLOG, WAIT PATIENTLY, BECOME ELITE HAXOR. just quit knocking the HTC method because it really is all we have... it may suck... you may hate it... but atleast you can enjoy your phone a little bit more than you do now (which im guessing why you have your hello kitty panties all in a bunch)
[HTC EVO 3D] mugetsu666:
Couldn't not agree with u more man. How about we just be happy with what we got and move on :p
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
A little history lesson for you.

First, here is when people started complaining about the Evo 3D being locked down:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1094075

That is BEFORE HTC announced that all future devices would be unlocked.

There are plenty of posts in that thread thread that say things like this:

And this:

And this:

You will also see several posts in that thread with HTC's contact info, the link to their facebook, the link to the online petition, etc. But here is another thread encouraging people to post on their facebook:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1094810

Here is when the news hit Engadget (notice the date is several days AFTER the date the xda threads were started):

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/25/evo-3d-shipping-with-locked-down-bootloader-but-htc-may-reconsi/

There was a whole thread titled "Stop crying over evo 3d being locked."

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1094347

Here is when HTC first announced that they would consider reviewing their policy of locking down phones:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1094893

Notice that is also AFTER the date the threads on xda were started.

I don't have my timelines messed up man. I was here for it all and remember it clearly. There were plenty of other threads on these subjects too, but I am done searching. I posted enough to make my case.

The FACT is, people were complaining about it, and several jackasses were saying we should just shut up about it because complaining wouldn't do any good, and others were saying we didn't need it anyway so we should just be happy with the phone as is.

We now know that complaining actually DID make a difference and got us the half assed unlock that we have available today. And we also know that the more freedom we have with our phones, the better our experience will be.

Why study history? So we can learn from it and not keep making the same mistakes.
[HTC EVO 3D] Gibsonusa:
How was the wedding? Cause you guys are *****ing like a married couple. Who's the pitcher who's the catcher lol
[HTC EVO 3D] sprkat85:
+1 lol

10 char
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Yeah really guys, it's starting to not be anything but you guys griping at each other over history.

Ultimately if you want to get across to HTC hit them in their place is ultimately the way to get to them. HTC isn't going to read through pages and pages of bs on xda to get your opinion. Back then we had petitions and people were going to HTC personally.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
That may or may not be true, I am not disputing any of that.

My beef is when someone comes into a thread that was specifically made for us to get updates on when this thing will be unlocked, and all they contribute is "you don't need it unlocked anyway, and I base this on the fact that I don't need it unlocked so therefore you don't either," or even worse, "shut up about it and just be happy with what you have."

History has shown that complaining about it DOES work. And just because a person doesn't care if we ever get s-off or not doesn't mean they have the right to troll threads like this telling everyone they should not care about getting s-off either.

People are in this thread because they do want s-off. That is the whole point of this thread. If someone doesn't care about getting it, fine. Nobody is trying to convince anyone they should want it. Simply avoid threads like this and there will be no problem.

But if someone comes in specifically trying to tell everyone that they should just accept things the way they are and not worry about ever getting s-off, then they are trolling. They're just trying to start problems.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
That's fine and I don't disagree completely. At some point you both need to step away and say its not worth it. Because neither of you are accomplishing anything other than getting each other worked up. Just walk away. You both disagree with each other, we get it.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I did walk away. I didn't post on the matter for a day or 2. But when he kept going on and on, it drew me back in.

Ironic, he was the one who said he was done with this thread several times and I was the one who walked away (and was drawn back in after about 5 posts from the dude who supposedly was done with it, lol).

I was only trying to set the record straight. People keep having this attitude that "*****ing about it doesn't help anything" and they are dead wrong. HTC absolutely DOES have people on these forums, and they have proven that they do listen when they get enough complaints. That's the whole reason we have a half assed unlock right now, because they listened when people complained.
[HTC EVO 3D] MindSplit:
@Evil_DevNull: Caught wind that Evo 3D is due for Hboot 1.60.00? No f'ing way #Htcusa don't say that ****. Team Evil is close to cracking 1.50 you assholes
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Hahaha yeah right. If that's the case then he's working on some different ideas and doing such outside the think tank section.

I hope it happens for those that are stuck s-on and dying for s-off but so far its been all talk....
[Atrix 4G General] newsama:
Hey guys, I'm having an issue where my Atrix keeps disconnecting the data connection every few seconds whenever I start using data (browsing, youtube, google music, etc).

When the issue first started I was running ATT 4.5.91 with 01.77.15 Baseband. So far I tried factory reset, reflashing baseband, CM7 Ba2Tf, and right now I'm running on ATT 4.5.133 rooted and deodexed, with 01.77.36P ATT Baseband. I did the update to 4.5.133 and the current radio via CWM after wiping cache, dalvik and data. The problem still occurs.

If I keep my phone idle, it stays connected (blue bars, blue H+ icon and arrows beneath it).

A few seconds after I start browsing the web or using other data intensive tasks it keeps disconnecting the data connection at frequent intervals, every few seconds. It doesn't drop any signal bars, but the H+ and bars turn grey (lost connection to google servers) and doesn't show the Up/Down arrows below H+, meaning it disconnected the data connection. After a few seconds it connects back and everything turns blue again.

It's really annoying and I'm out of ideas. I have tried reflashing everything, another rom, another radion, also tried setting the apns by hand, all to no avail. Some insight would be very much appreciated, thanks in advance.
[Atrix 4G General] CaelanT:
Sounds like an app problem. The new market did this in it's earlier versions. Would have to reboot or go into and out of airplane mode to reconnect data. What apps are you using when it happens?
[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
In my case, CPU Tuner was causing this behavior.

I think I've set it up incorrectly or something and as soon as I uninstalled it the problem went away, but will try it again soon.
[Atrix 4G General] newsama:
Thanks for the help, guys.

In order to test for an offending app, I cleared /data (factory reset on CWM), cache/dalvik cache and installed the latest CM7 weekly. I did not flash gapps and did not restore/installany third party apps.

The issue still appeared while browsing the web. Then I restored my current rom (att 4.5.133) and left the phone sit for a couple hours. After a while I did a few tests and everything was normal again. Then I went to bed after testing the phone for about one hour and when I woke up the issue was back. Could it be that my carrier has anything to do with it? I'm trying to get a hold of another carrier's SIM with data enable to test it out.
[Atrix 4G General] sp0tted:
I had this exact issue. I was running CM7 Ba2Tf for several weeks, no problems. Then all of a sudden, my connection to google would drop for no reason at all.

The H+ & signal bars would turn white, indicating that I still had a data connection to AT&T, but no connection to google. Every time I used one of the gapps, the connection to google would drop. This was especially apparent when I was using google talk.

I cleared caches, data, re-flashed, wiped, etc..., and the problem persisted. There was absolutely no way around the problem. I'm baffled that after completing clearing & re-flashing everything, the problem persisted.

I could not find a workaround. I am now running a fruitcake variant, and do not have this problem. I really miss CM7, and am curious to hear if anyone has found a legitimate solution.

It looks like this is not a new bug either. Check out Cyanogen mod issue 3557.
[Atrix 4G General] sp0tted:
I know that this thread doesn't have much action, but for what it's worth, I don't have this problem on Jokers ICS Roms.

It appears that when this problem manifests itself, it's somewhat rom specific.
[Atrix 4G General] Mellowmidget:
Sounds strange, but I had the exact same problem after I installed Chess for Buddies. I removed the app and everything went back to normal. I do miss playing chess though :p
[Atrix 4G General] KH_Lionheart:
I have it on Turl's ICS.
[Atrix 4G General] sp0tted:
That's crazy! Did you have it the instant you flashed the ROM, or were you able to run for a few days?

What were you running beforehand?
[Atrix 4G General] mastermind278:
I think those having this problem should try removing APNs they are not using, thus only leave the one you are using.

I was having this issue on any application that would load up the GPS, as soon as I deleted all other APNs and just left the one I needed I never had the problem. I think part of the issue is when GPS connected it would quickly knock me out from data but on reconnect it would try the standard ATT APN versus the mvno I am using.

Probably won't help for everyone but that was my solution and it has worked on various ROMs I have tried (Blur, CM7, CM9).
[Atrix 4G General] sp0tted:
That's a solid observation mastermind.

I would to add that the evening before I started seeing the issue, I enabled tethering on my cm7 the (ba2tf). Pretty much the next day I started seeing the issue.

Perhaps something got screwed up in the APN settings when I tethered. Up until then I hadn't seen the issue.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] kevin37:
Is there any possibility that we will see a functional port of honeycomb for our device? maybe if we took the phone portion from ICS or something. I would love to do it if I knew how,:confused: but has anyone thought of doing it? I think that It would work pretty well especially seeing that HW acceleration is off buy default and ICS is not. I think it has a better chance of running on our phones. If anyone is thinking of doing this please let me know, orif someone with dev skils can pm me a how to, like what programs and what not as well as a short basic Rom building from source how to should get me started, and I'll figure it out.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] erwinpiero:
maybe this one will help your searching, porting honeycomb works for HD2 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=978939
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] say942:
Hi Guys!

I am importing Galaxy Nexus in Pakistan for me and my friends. If anybody wants to get unlocked Galaxy Nexus 16 and 32GB then can contact me.

The person will be required to pay in advance an amount of PKR 69000 at the moment for 16GB.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] master90x:
Hi everybody

I replaced file "wpa_supplicant" at system/bin in Samsung galaxy Y S5630. but after that i couldn't find my wireless signal is WPA/WEP (my wireless is turned on by my laptop). it still kept at loading.......

So can you have give me this file at this mobile.....or how do i connect from my mobile to my laptop by wireless....

tks so much

p/s : i'm from vietnam, may be i have some mistake about english in this topic........ tks a lot
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zorainz:
same problem

accidently deleted the wpa_supplicant in galaxy Y android version 2.3.6. please someone upload the file ...:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Donkey3000:
I've been using the World generic 4.0.2.A.0.42 for a bout a week and a half now. As that really stabilized my phone over the Rogers (Canada) version, I started using Live wallpapers. The only thing is that when I reboot my phone, the stock wallpaper appears. Is this a known issue with this build, all arc builds, or android in general? I haven't used them up to this point, so I'm not sure what the issue is.

Thanks.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sinkster:
Are they on internal memory or on your sd card?

sinkster©
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] electrash:
It is normal for live wallpaper.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Donkey3000:
Yep, they were on the sd card and moving them to the phone did the trick. Makes sense too ... trying to load before the SD card is mounted. I'll just keep the one I'm using on the phone and the rest on the card and move them around as I switch them.

Thanks!
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arsanace:
Hi im having the same issue but it is not on SD card but in internal storage but it still returns to stock wallpaper when restart on home and lock screen
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wilbur-force:
Am i being daft ?

I have a group set up ... how do i send a text to all the group members in ICS ?

from the messaging app it wont let me 'select' contacts. If i type the group name it doesnt find it. From the contacts app it wont let me send an SMS to the group ....

Do i need a third party app for this ??? (ive used GO SMS or Handcent in the past but i thought there would be a facility for it in raw ICS!)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Leprekorn:
I couldn't find a way to do this either so ending up downloading GO SMS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] WhiterThanWhite:
Why haven't Google done anything about this? Nokia's Symbian phones had by far the best mass SMS capability; just scroll down your contacts and tick... why can't Google do that??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigf00t:
Any update on this? Definately no native support for mass sms?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] micflair:
Yeah this is pants, It lets you create groups, but you cant do anything with them. Dont understand why this feature would be left out as its obviously in previous Android builds... wierd.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigf00t:
A lot of people seem to look down on Sense in preference to stock Android and I understand that this phone is for those that want a pure google experience...

...I have to say though I'm missing a lot of the little features I had with my HTC Desire.

So which third party app works best with ICS? Handcent was pretty rubbish on my Desire.

Another thing annoying me is when I'm listening to music/podcasts with through Poweramp, and I receive a text- I get the alert tone in my earphones and my music/podcast volume drops and then comes back up after the tone has finished. Does the stock music player do the same thing?

I'd prefer my music/podcast to pause while the tone is playing or play simultaneously with the tone (preferably with the tone at a lower volume) other wise I end up missing a good few seconds of what I'm listening to; Not always a big deal with music but can be quite annoying with podcasts.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wilbur-force:
Go sms works pretty well .....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
Most reasonable people viewing the GNote pentile screen say it is bright, has high contrast, deep blacks and a sharp image.

It is a 24bit Millions of colours screen.

So why the hatred of pentile?

It's got me f#^ked.

Maybe it is due to old arguments that date back years.

There is an old controversy going around between pentile and LCD proponents, which is apples vs oranges because there are pentile lcd's and rgb oled's.

The controversy is, that pentiles use less sub-pixels and therefore should be rated as such in lower pixel density.

This ignores how vision works, which essentially is an illusion.

To disagree is to dismiss basic Buddhism and modern psychology as well as film theory on visual perception.

At the level of pixels, the illusion of vision breaks down for lcd as well as pentile screens.

So while looking at a pentile screen with a magnifying glass can be scary, it is the same for rgb's.

So why did Samsung go back to using the pentile matrix instead of RGB for the Note?

Only guessing, but some of the advantages of pentile are;

Cuts power consumption in half for equivalent brightness, or

Doubles screen brightness for equivalent power

Achieves higher resolution

Provides flexible settings for color control and power savings

Increases cost savings potential and yield for manufacturers

Accelerates adoption of next-generation devices

Makes text easier to read

nuvoyance.com

Contrary to the hype, pentiles allow higher resolution, all the while using much less power. Talk about a no-brainer.

One of the limitations of the pentile is a cross hatched pattern seen on the edge of some images, like a border between red and white, when seen up close(with a magnifying glass). This is so at lower pixel densities but "for higher pixel densities you stand to gain from PenTile" ; is the PenTile matrix bad for you?

More technical info:

PenTile blog

OLED-A
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] GALAXYNOTE:
Achieve higher resolution - yes, but already given a 1280 x800 resolution, would you prefer it to be pentile or RGB?

No one is complaining about pentile can give higher resolution, its not like we want 800x480 RGB over 1280x800 pentile. But already given the phone is 1280x800, people would rather it be super amoled plus instead of pentile super amoled.

While pentile consumes less power, super amoled screens sucks power like crazy. It is a fact. But that said, i still think the screen is gorgreous. however if you let me choose - RGB over pentile any day.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
Given a 1280 x800 resolution, I would prefer it to be pentile as it will look better.

Perceived resolution.

Pentile consumes 50% less power than RGB.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] GALAXYNOTE:
Well if you are not talking about super amoled, then yes a pentile layout consumes theoretically 33% less power.

If you are strictly comparing pentile RGBG/RGBW to RGB, pentile looks like sh*t i gotta say. At least my atrix did.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] epicfailguy2:
Pentile also ages better than sRGB amoled, because the lifespan of the organic amoled subpixels are different from color to color. The pentile ages better because there are simply more subpixels of the color which has the lowest lifespan.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] GALAXYNOTE:
The color which has the lowest lifespan is blue, from what i can recall)

How does RGBG or RGBW have more blue subpixels than RGB? (I am only asking just wanted to know.)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
Well, comparing the Note screen(pentile) to the SGII screen(rgb), opinions vary, but the Note screen looks better to me.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Xaddict:
More green than blue.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] GALAXYNOTE:
Actually I gotta agree with you on that. My gf had a SGS II and that blue tint bugged the hell outta me. I dont know what they done to it, but i dont think it was a problem with it being RGB.