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[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
So is there a way to still buy it? Do I need to install a different market or something?
[HTC EVO 3D] MrGreg:
I updated the website with a note and a link to the apk (for those who have already purchased the app):

https://sites.google.com/site/roamcontrol/

I appealed the decision, but based on what I've read online, I'm not really expecting a response from Google. I have a few ideas on how to republish the app in such a way that people will retain their licenses, whether the new app is published through the Android Market or the Amazon Appstore. I'll let you know when I have any updates...thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] jdfrye:
Looks like something I would want to buy. Is there a way to purchase it now?
[HTC EVO 3D] AFuddyDuddy:
If this works as intended..... Shut up and take my money.... When you can anyway.
[HTC EVO 3D] byg.nick:
Can't wait.

Sent from my HTC EVO 3d using Taptalk
[HTC EVO 3D] lchupacabras:
Just tried using the apk from your site and my license check kept erroring out, le sigh.
[HTC EVO 3D] MrGreg:
Can you try a few more times over wifi? I was looking around online, and it looked like existing licenses should continue to work even though the app was removed.

Let me know if you are able to get it working so I can plan accordingly, thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] Bairdog35:
I really hope this keeps making progress, as it will be very awesome for us new shooter owners!
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
I wouldn't wait on it.... I'll put a hefty bet once ics is out (possibly with updated "locked" hboot) some one will crack it then...

Seem to me the devnull team is struggling to open up the exploits they claimed to have found...

Again my opinion and if they do crack it my donation still stands... But with the prior experience with him on xda and his greedy money hungry "im gonna get rich" plot with the shift tool kit, if he charges for it I will gladly stick with HTC unlock as it works fine and you can easily get around the "warranty void"

Just call it arrogance on my part if you like

Or research the things he has said and done with no regret or remorse
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
How do you get around the warranty void? From my understanding it will say re-locked on the bootloader screen after you re-lock it. or am I in the dark on how to do this?
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Do you think Sprint really checks it..... I've brought a EVO 3d with cm7 on it to a service center... They gave the go ahead for a warranty exchange due to faulty screen
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
That is not really getting around the voided warranty though. I thought I had missed a way to make it say locked instead of re-locked.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Well whatever happens with this, I am pretty sure this Evo 3D will be my last HTC phone. It really pissed me off that the Evo 3D was all locked down in the first place. And then when HTC "unlocked" it, it was a half ass job. Not to mention the radio sucks so bad I can rarely make a connection in most places and the quality is crap when I do get a connection. And with it all locked down development isn't what it could and should have been, and I can't flash a radio anyway.

Now I'm seeing that the phone is riddled with security flaws, including a key logger installed on the stock ROM. And I have to notify Sprint and HTC that I am voiding my warranty if I flash a more secure custom ROM.

HTC will have to make an out of this world phone if I am ever to buy another one after all of this. It's like they forgot the people who made them who they are (us).

And this is coming from someone who has only had HTC phones since the PPC-6600, buying a new one every year (sometimes 2 or 3 times per year).
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
No you can't make it say locked... But if they don't check it what else do you need it for? Resale?
[HTC EVO 3D] Twolazyg:
Just so people know, The man trying to S-off our phone is asking for our help. Noobs, Devs, Anyone. He has asked for people to bounce ideas around to make this happen. Please don't go on the forum if you are only going to ask when it will get done. Please only post something if you have some input that might help. Link is in my sig.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
FYI, can't see your sig (or the link) in Tapatalk.
[HTC EVO 3D] gotojanoo:
yeah i just saw that too.Thats BS. His twits was like he was almost done with evo 3d s-off before. now its totally different. screw that all BS am gonna sell my evo 3d. fcking no support.
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
Cool story bro.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
LOL

I hope you sell it cuz if you can't unlock/root with HTC method and be somewhat content you deserve a iPhone....
[HTC EVO 3D] Twolazyg:
I'm not really seeing your eagerness to help. You must be one of those people that thinks we're "tech support" when you **** your phone up because you don't know what you're doing. We don't need you coming into the forums having this sense of entitlement thinking that you deserve everything. You don't contribute to anything on here. I hope you do sell your phone to someone who actually takes an interest in modifying their phone so you can go to apple and get an Iphone again. Keep suckling the teat of a company with inferior products like the rest of the apple whores.
[HTC EVO 3D] gotojanoo:
dude this is my 2 nd evo 3d. 1st one i enjoyed with stupid htc method and i was tired with fastboot command to install any new rom. I broke the screen and they gave me brand new one and again its with 1.50. i think i dont wanna go with htc method for new one. i had a ramdomly shutdown issue. And FYI am not a apple fan :). Prob i will look for Galaxy S2 now.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
You knew it was gonna have a hboot 1.5...... I'm not understanding your *****ing about no support..

I own the epic touch.... Guess what... They have a flash counter/counter reset counter....(manufacture can see how many times you flashed/reset the flash counter) Yeah its easy to flash but last time I turned my epic touch on... I got LOS so enjoy the loss of service and flash counter.... Let alone dated gps and horrible burn ins...
[HTC EVO 3D] gotojanoo:
no am not apple whore dude. am just saying that evo 3d was my wrong choice.

My phone came with 1.50 i never updated with OTA . i just said whatever i saw on twitter from last so many days. anyway my bad sorry if i said anything wrong. and yeah now i will try to avoid this forum . Peace !!!!!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] 3vo kid:
quit complainin about there being no support for this phone and that devnull team is prob BSing about a full "s-off" well they either crack it or they don't in which case once ICS comes out I'm sure somebody will crack that. Honestly quit ur *****ing, its not like u could crack the damn thing anyway. Patience is a virtue so do urself a favor and practice it

And one more thing devnull said they needed an hboot 1.5 unit in order to test their progress, so those of u that hate htc and the evo 3d should put it to good use and donate it to him, cuz lord knows u don't need it

Sent from my Infected Evo from the 3rd Dimension
[HTC EVO 3D] sniperkill:
The reason HTC patched the exploit is because it was a huge security hole in HTC's software. It's not like they said," hey, them dev's over at Revolutionary found an exploit, so let's patch it". No, it was a big security hole that needed to be patched for all our protection.
[HTC EVO 3D] sniperkill:
You can hook your phone up to your computer via USB, use root explorer, or a file manager that has root permissions, and copy the apk in your data/app folder and paste it on your sdcard. Then you can copy and paste it to your computer. Or you can do it the easy way and just upload it to your dropbox account. Then you'll always have it.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I hope you're right. But I am left thinking that if HTC didn't care, they wouldn't have locked it down in the first place. And even locking it down, they could have given s-off with their unlock method, and not required users to register (and void warranty) in order to get their half assed unlock.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
So does anyone know what happened with this? What's the latest?
[HTC EVO 3D] contradude:
The latest is that they have covered over any easy ways to exploit 1.5 and that most of what everyone has tried has failed. We just need one lucky break to blow this wide open.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
So basically back to square one?

OP need to change title to "Hboot 1.5,S-OFF not this month"
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
My thoughts exactly. Or perhaps just change title to say that it is being worked on. A lot of people are always asking if it is being worked on, so this is there answer.
[HTC EVO 3D] ninten5:
So is my dream of getting ICS on my home before christmas, crushed? :(
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
Why would your dreams be crushed? ICS will still be able to be flashed with hboot 1.5 S on, as long as your unlocked. You'll just need a computer to boot recovery from fastboot.

So your deem depends more on if ICS is ready for us by Christmas, not S off.
[HTC EVO 3D] fanesxx:
I want s-off, simple

EVO3DX
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
I want my warranty. Lol
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
You will have your warranty... I can't believe all of you think HTC sends a email to sprint with the IMEI numbers of the phones that have been unlocked.....

Someone should make a thread to explain that sprint rarely checks phones.... I've brought a cm7 OC'd EVO 3d in and got a warranty exchange.....

Do you call HTC when your phone ****s up?

No you call sprint... Even if they send you to a local "tech" center to see if it can be fixed there 9 times out of 10 they can't do any major hardware/software problems....

If your that worried flash stock ROM... "relock" and go in there and try it out....

There will be no full s-off for 1.5.xxx

Deal with it and do HTC method or be a "model" Sprint customer and keep your phone stock
[HTC EVO 3D] nate.spangler:
Hey now... I work at one of these "tech " centers! It's not that we can't fix major stuff, it's that we aren't allowed to do any soldering. I'll be voiding my htc warranty tonight. Just got my 3d and I waited 2 weeks and can't take it anymore.
[HTC EVO 3D] mugetsu666:
Mine's been voided once I found out that it was the only way after I retardedly updated my phone to the 1.50, but it works just fine xcept I can't change my splash screen.
[HTC EVO 3D] blauciel:
Voided? What am I missing?

//Tapatalk.KindleFire//
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
So you can agree most Sprint stores don't really bother checking s-off unless its stated to do so in the resolution section......

Which most of the time the reps don't go by...

Atleast the 4 or 5 times I brought a rooted or s-off phone in they never checked... And I've seen a lot of people on xda and other forums make the same claims....

Sprint really doesn't care or bother to check if HTC has voided your warranty... Let alone give much hassle when there is a major problem with the phone... (other than physical damage, in which case insurance will cover it,and if you don't have insurance on a 500 dollar super phone that's your own fault)

There are ways of "scamming" the system... Most xda members would frown upon, even though they them selfsame would do it to get a working phone....

And trust me.... There is no such thing as a complete software brick anymore... It's almost impossible to software lock your phone.... Unless your a complete moron and can't fallow simple instructions... You shouldn't be rooting/flashing if you don't get the concept of it... And there are many guides on YouTube for all the people who can't read... So no one can say "its to complicated"

And if it is for some people then they should let a friend who knows what their doing, do it... Or listen to their human instinct and back out of it
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Whether anyone thinks Sprint will notice or not is irrelevant. The fact is there is a paper trail proving that your warranty is void, and you knew it was void.

That just doesn't sit well with me. And it's the reason this Evo 3D will almost certainly be my last HTC phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Paper trail or a direct link almost all phones have a way of detecting flash/root....

Google: sgs2 flash counter

MOTO has a way

HTC has a way

Iphones suck

So it looks like a jitter bug is the only option for you..

If you can't man up and accept big companies are gonna protect their own hides over their customers then you will be left with no options

It's life son... Not everything can be "the way it was a year ago"

Just be happy you have a option... It's not like anyone is forcing you to root/flash or not to... It's decision time for all of you.. do it and be happy or don't and shut up

No one is gonna waste valuable coding time on something that is done already...

S-off 1.5 < Ics
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
angry Virgins like you are the reason this site is falling out of its glory days.

Also, I don't want to have to hook up to a pc to flash. I don't own an iphone, I want to use my 4g to download a rom, move it to my root with a file manager, and flash it, never touching a wire.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Glory days? What would you know about xda glory days?

You have been here alittle more than a month with that being your second post...

Either its a multi account or you just wanna start **** with no basis. I've been in the 3d forum since launch... Among many others and have a good name in the marketplace... I don't make this site my life like some of the other members but when I come on here and see people complain about something that isn't gonna happen I gotta comment... Consider that a flaw of mine

No angry virgin here... Show me where I went CAPS crazy or raged... I'm just spreading my opinion like everyone else and I feel sorry for you that you can't come at me with something that holds water... Other than angry virgin.... 4chan?
[HTC EVO 3D] xblackvalorx:
Definitely but my first account. Secondly, congratulations on your status in a relatively new forum.

Any way, I pretty much cracked a joke, I do believe I even included "lol"

You responded with a rude tone, sarcasm, and profanity. Plus, half a page for my one liner. Just calm down, quit typing essays about things no one cares about, and cry to mommy because people on the internet had a different opinion. Sheesh.
[HTC EVO 3D] nate420:
Essay? LOL if that's a essay to you I'm guessing your not very educated... As the childish comeback keep flowing out of your keyboard you still can't man up and go buy another phone that can do the things you want.... Or unlock the one you have....

Your the one crying about a warranty writen in magic marker...
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
Everyone relax a little bit. This thread has lasted a little longer than some of the other s-off threads I've had around. So let's not flame fellas.

And for the record root and s-off void your warranty period. Whether it's revolutionary or htc unlock. It's always been that way. The cool thing about non htc methods is that you can usually hide the fact that you did it. And I do agree that having to flash from a computer would suck, seeing as I am never near a computer most times I flash.
[HTC EVO 3D] Barshalen:
When HTC says your warranty is voided, they are referring to their manufacturer warranty. If you don't have Sprint Insurance and something happens to the phone that isn't your fault, you can still send it to HTC to be fixed within 90 days (maybe one year?). When you use their method, that warranty is voided, not Sprints. So until Sprint starts denying insurance claims due to rooting like Verizon has(tried), I don't think we have any problem.

I had to take my old Epic to a sprint store to be replaced twice. Once because an experimental kernel fried it, and then because the sensors were not working. Both times they asked if I rooted it, and I told them yes. My new replacement was their free of charge next day each time. That's what insurance is for :)
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
Well back to topic looks like they r running outa ideas over there as I've seen little progress since.

Hope noone donated before it was released. Made it seem like he had it done or was close to it and now looks much different....
[HTC EVO 3D] Barshalen:
Agreed. It seems like they aren't going to give up that easy though at least. And if they can't get it by the time ICS is released, hopefully that hboot will have a flaw :)

Or maybe HTC will stop being buttheads and decide to be fully developer friendly, not just half way -.-
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
No, I have another option. I can ***** about it and hopefully HTC will know why they're losing customers.

I don't really care about the flash counter or any way to go through a lot of trouble and detect if it's been rooted. I do care about registering with the company, giving an electronic signature that I acknowledge the warranty is void, and then never getting the phone fully unlocked anyway.

How is the radio on your Evo 3D? Mine barely gets a signal in places my old Evo 4G had full bars. Too bad you can't flash a radio on the Evo 3D.

So I absolutely WILL ***** about it. *****ing about it is what got HTC to even half ass unlock it in the first place. And when HTC loses a long time customer like me (check how long I've been on this site) then they will know why. And the more people thinking like me, the more likely HTC will reconsider (just like they did when they locked the boot loader in the first place).

Shutting up about it is most definitely NOT my only option, and I have no intention of shutting up about it.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
I mean i kinda understand why they went this route. if you think about it the biggest way you brick a phone is to flash a bad radio on it. this way they at least limit themselves to the phones returned b/c of this problem. And with kernels they make it to where you have to actually know what your doing to flash one of them.

There is logic behind it, though we may not agree with it fully it could be worse. We could be stuck fully locked with no way around it...
[HTC EVO 3D] AdriVelazquez:
Let's keep the thread clean. We're all here to help with hboot 1.5 or share some new information. If something really big comes out, I'll change the original post.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
As far as many of us are concerned, we ARE stuck fully locked with no way around it.

Never again HTC (assuming HTC has shills reading this forum). My 4-8 yearly phone purchases that have been nothing but HTC since 2005 will now go to your competition. Unless you fully unlock your phones with no questions asked (like they have been until recently) then I will never buy another HTC phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
I find this whole TeamEvil S-Off thing confusing. Apparently, they had S-Off on the Rezound, but the guy who had the phone "ran off" before they could get a system dump, or something like that. They also had a project page, which showed 6 different objectives, and their progress completion on each step. That page looked to indicate the S-Off was already completed, and all they needed to do was make the process "noob-proof". The process was about 95% complete, overall. While I applaud any group that attempts any development on almost any phone, it seems like they weren't as transparent on their progress in the beginning.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
I'm sorry, but no bootloaders have come unlocked. They all have been hacked up to this point. They just started doing a better job of locking them down. My original hero was locked and had to have a hack that a dev found to unlock it. People acting like them locking bootloaders is new is not correct. Unless you get a dev phone that comes s-off they all come s-on. Yes them literally having the words unlocked and locked is new but the concept isn't. Them actually providing some sort of key to unlock is new and is a step in the right direction but not a complete step to satisfy the end users.
[HTC EVO 3D] tokuzumi:
Looks like this is already happening. HTC has already announced lower than expected revenues for November, and smartphone sales down year over year. Samsung has really eaten into their market share with the Galaxy line.

And, after playing with a few phones with AMOLED screens at the sprint store, I don't want another phone with a TFT LCD. I want AMOLED. HTC offers nothing with that technology right now, so I'll go with the manufacturer that does for my next phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
yup yup. very true here.

Though i dunno if people are acting like this whole "locked bootloader" thing is new more so as they are just mad at the improvement in the locking job HTC and others have done recently.

Besides the pita to get radios evidently i dont get what the big fuss is all about. kernels you just need to flash via fastboot so it takes what a min longer than normal as you have to get to your computer to do it?

I mention radios as the only PITA b/c from what i understand the only way to get the new radios in OTA's is to relock, and accept the OTA, then go back to HTC and unlock and root again. That there is a little troubling process or more so annoying BUT like i said before its really a way HTC/Sprint save themselves some dough as they prevent people from flashing bad radios and such in turn bricking their phones.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
Locking boot loaders is not new, no. Encrypting them is though. And requiring us to register with them in order to half assed unlock it is also new.

You are wrong when you say they have always been locked though. Pretty sure the bootloader on my old PPC-6700 wasn't locked.

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I'm sure saving money from bricking phones has absolutely nothing to do with keeping the radio locked.

They already tell you the warranty is void when you unlock the phone in the first place. So why would they care about you bricking it while flashing a radio at that point? If they were trying to save money by not replacing bricked phones, they would just check the list of people that have unlocked it and voided the warranty.

Flashing radios was probably something Sprint wanted to put a stop to. They don't want people potentially costing them money by hitting towers they don't want them to hit, pulling data speeds they don't want them to pull, etc. The fact that Sprint had the Roam Control app pulled from the market should be all the evidence you need of this.

HTC isn't worried about losing money by replacing bricked phones. They already voided the warranty and don't have to replace it if they don't want to.
[HTC EVO 3D] pstevep:
It may not have been i never checked my ppc-6700. I was inferring more to android and not so much to winmo.

And I don't disagree with you overall. I just have 3 separate forums all with this thread type topic. And I have people who have just started rooting claiming that this locked bootloader is new. And I get tired of it. HTC encryption is new yes. And I see both sides of the debate on their unlock method. And I agree it could/should be better.
[HTC EVO 3D] WatermelonSlim:
I think when most people say locking the bootloader is new, they mean in the sense that there is no way to unlock it.

HTC "locked" the bootloaders before but always made sure the community could unlock it if needed. So it was locked in the same fashion that a door is locked but the key to unlock it is taped to the front of the door and hanging from a string in plain site. Yes, it is technically "locked" but for all practical purposes, it isn't locked.

Now HTC has gone from that, and put a bank vault door up and fully locked it. And they say they'll let you look through a window (their version of unlocking) but you have to sign your life away.

HTC went from a totally open door (WinMo) to a locked door with the key taped to the front (Android) to now a totally locked down bank vault. I don't like the direction this is heading and I won't be supporting them any longer.

There are too many companies making phones now for me to continue to support HTC while they are making it clear they don't want to support me. You only want to sell to people who don't care about s-off? Fine, only sell to them then. Might as well get your shills off of sites like this one then, because most of us care about s-off. And it was the people on sites like this one that made HTC what they are today.