yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Other Information

This method of installation will set your main version to 1.36.100.0 on 3G flyers and 1.36.0001.01 for Wifi models. The reason for this is to make that number lower than any RUU that exists for your device. This simplifies future downgrades by making it unnecessary to ever run the misc_version downgrade procedure.

FAQ

Q: Do I need to flash recovery/root something else after this?

A: No, the procedure will give you root, recovery and busybox.

Q: What does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?

A: Full read/write access to all useful partitions.

Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?

A: The ability to flash custom roms without flashing boot images from booted android.

Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?

A: The ability to have custom software without having to waive your warranty.

Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?

A: The ability to install any regional ROMS without a goldcard.

Q: What else does S-OFF give me that HTC unlock doesn't?

A: Greedy much? What else do you want?

Q: Can I return to S-ON for warranty purposes?

A: Yes, a procedure will be in post 3 when I get to it, if you ask in the thread I will not answer this question.

Q: Why do I have to S-OFF in GB before going to HC?

A: Because that's where the exploit works, once we have access to hboot in any version we can patch hboots for later releases.

Q: Can I downgrade to GB by restoring my backup?

A: No

Q: Can I downgrade to GB?

A: Yes, follow the post below this one.

Q: Will this work on the view?

A: No
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
S-OFF Downgrade

Instructions Part 1

This thread is not for discussing general Honeycomb problems so don't post here if it's not related to

running this procedure.

To go completely back to stock and S-ON, follow the instructions here. The instructions in the link will work for either Gingerbread or HoneyComb, make sure you use an RUU for your CID.

Important: Charge your Flyer fully before running this procedure ( see section: problems below)

If you are on Honeycomb and got there by following other honeycomb install methods this procedure is not for you.

You must have a revolutionary hboot to use this procedure.

You must download the gingerbread RUU for your device unless you are going to immediately install a custom ROM or restore a nandroid backup.

Note: There is no FULL version downgrade due to the number of localized versions that exist for the Flyer.

You must download the gingerbread RUU for your device unless you are going to immediately install a custom ROM.

After following the steps above, you should be on a gingerbread compatible base with revolutionary S-OFF and CWM, nothing more or less than that.

Procedure

download the file that you require as follows:

Be warned this is a this is not a complet rom, if you try to boot from it you will just get the wite htc logo screen:

MD5 Filename
--------------------------------------------------------------
3G-Wifi: 26ea9aa7cdde5c0008446c421c1ac1cc [URL="http://hyuh.net/files/flyer/downgrade/PG41IMG-3G.zip"]PG41IMG-3G.zip[/URL]
Wifi only: e0094cbb3ce14630e1d7e7dcc4274dd8 [URL="http://hyuh.net/files/flyer/downgrade/PG41IMG-WIFI.zip"]PG41IMG-WIFI.zip[/URL]

If you are running this procedure the flash WILL fail first time, you must flash twice

Method1: Using fastboot:

Get fastboot and adb tool for windows here, get Windows fastboot drivers here

Get Fastboot and adb for linux here

fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot flash zip <name of zipfile>
[I][COLOR=Blue]Flashing will fail with Error 90 first time due to hboot change[/COLOR][/I]
fastboot flash zip <name of zipfile>
[I][COLOR=Blue]The on screen indicator on the phone will not reach fully to the right end of the progress bar, this is ok[/COLOR][/I]
fastboot reboot

Method 2: Using bootloader - NOTE I strongly recommend using method 1.

Rename the downloaded file PG41IMG.zip

Transfer the file to the root of your SD card

Reboot to hboot, which will detect and install the update.

Note it will require two passes to complete the upgrade due to hboot change

Credits

scotty1223 for giving me the kick in the ass to get this done :) Thanks scotty!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sarpsuerdas:
hi globatron,

first of all thanks for the hard work..

second, this is the first time i'm gonna root or apply a custom rom on my flyer so would you say this tutorial would be enough for me to do the whole process? or should i look at some other information before applying this?

thanks
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Safe to assume this version of hboot will be compatiblewith all hc leaks?

Having s off will allow us to upgrade easier?

Thank you for all your efforts
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
sarpsuerdas try it, if you get stuck ask questions. If I'm not online most people here have already done things very similar to this and will try to help.

mcord11758, all the ones so far but you never know about future ones, what it will mean for sure is no downgrade to GB if an incompatible hboot comes along, and I'll update then if needed.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] scotty1223:
awsome! thanks for your hard work. cant wait to get my flyer back so i can install it :)

is this hboot protecting itself from being overwritten?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kturnbull:
I'm assuming no go to the View, correct? Even if you have no use for the 4g modem? =)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Do you suggest running actual ruu or fastboot flash to revert to gb
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kevinniven:
just to be clear

Im on rooted LeeDroid rom Ginger S Off. I should revert to S on and then move forward?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Correct (for now)

Makes no difference really. I always use fastboot because it gives me better feedback but whatever is easiest.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
No, skip to Part 2.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sarpsuerdas:
sorry for the novice questions but I got only one question in mind that will decide whether I will install this or not..

after completing the process, will my Flyer be able to use the honeycomb market, download the hc compatible apps and use the stylus as it should be with sketchbook etc?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] kturnbull:
You'd make all 4 of us REALLY happy. =)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] marygladys:
Yeah!

It worked! It was so extremely easy! I used Method 1 and presto! Here I am! Thanks Globatron! Looks like I will be ising English from the UK, though....Hmmmm....it will be fun reading realize as realise. Lol.

You are AMAZING!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
All the hc leaks do not have united states english
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] tsg2513:
Please excuse my ignorance but I am not quite sure what I will gain by doing this. I am currently running FlyHoney V1 on my WiFi BB Flyer and everything is running fine. I appreciate all of the hard work and effort but I just want to better understand this.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] RMarkwald:
You get an S-OFF HBOOT with HC, previously you only had an unlocked bootloader via HTC Unlock and S-ON.

I was able to do this successfully with Method 1 (fastboot commands too).

Thank you globatron for your hard work!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] sarpsuerdas:
Can someone please help me?

I am stuck at the revolutionary stage, unfortunately.. I have a 32 Flyer 3G and the revolutionary just tells me to drink the lemonade again and again.. The firmware is still the stock Flyer ROM with the updates done.. haven't performed any extra modification on it yet..

The details are:

Android 2.3.4

1.0 for Tablet

Software No: 2.23.405.4

I have applied the revolutionary process stage by stage just as it says.. but it can't pass the fastboot stage..
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] tErbo b00st:
Is the process for downgrading to gingerbread still the same, or can I just restore a gingerbread backup if I want?

Sent from my HTC_Flyer_P512_NA
[LG Optimus 3D] cyberguru:
Going to update my O3D tomorrow with GB and was wondering what the stock keyboard was like? I recently started using Go keyboard which is free from the market and seems to work a lot better than the Froyo one. I did have to turn the "swype" function off because even though I was taking my finger off the screen it was typing some right crap. Sometimes it will miss a keypress and for some reason I had to type the word "from" about six times, but other than that it's ace. And you can skin it also.
[LG Optimus 3D] rauld28:
The gingerbread one is smaller then the go keyboard. I prefer the go keyboard, i get less errors with this and it has my native language dictionary plus the editing features like background and everything else. I also like the touchpal keyboard (has some nice features similar to go but no themes and wallpapers) it has "swype" like to but not in my native language and i got more type errors with this one then with go.

So in my opinion stick with go keyboard. :) I also recommend the go launcher, go weather, and go lock.
[LG Optimus 3D] tooglife:
Swiftkey X...nothing better guys!
[LG Optimus 3D] deox91:
+1 i agree with that, it is worth every very cent
[LG Optimus 3D] cyclonmaster:
2nd...swiftkey x is the best. It's memorize whatever I had type previously.

Tried others, nothing good just a good look only.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] androidpixar:
I'm planning to get the skyrocket. My options are...

1) Buy a no contract unit from AT&T for $600, and root it.

2) Buy a rooted unit for $570 from an online seller.

Now, where I to go with route 2, would I have to contact AT&T to access their LTE? And then tweak the settings?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
You have to contact at&t either way to access lte
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] androidpixar:
Well the first route would entail me walking in to a corp store and buying a unit at whatever price they will be selling it to me for since I just got my contract renewed in Feb. I guess in a way I've answered my own query I sppose, better to get the phone unit from AT&T and root it and then delete all the bloatware.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Yes and taking that route you will have a waranty as well
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] androidpixar:
I guess I might as well spend the extra dough and get the unit from AT&T and hope to God I don't frak the unit when I root it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] androidpixar:
True, but a warranty that will be null and void as soon I root it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Nope. If you need to reauturn it unroot. And if its damaged to the point that it will not turn on they wont know it was rooted
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] androidpixar:
Aha! Forgot about that... Last Q for the day....is the following the way to go when it comes to rooting the SR or would you suggest something different/better/easier...

Being the noob that I am this will be my first foray into rooting a phone.

But I digress, here's the link I had read on rooting the SK which looked rather easy n simple enuff even for me....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1340710
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] stef2479:
If you had good payment history in the last 6 months you can just do an exception upgrade and get the phone for $100 over the going sale price... Well if you agree to a new 2yr agreement and a $18 upgrade fee.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lwfb:
This is the most cost effective if you don't care about another few months added to your contract... not many folks know about the exception upgrade program.

Especially good deal if your market sells it at $149. Then you're only paying $249, which is the normal price in some markets.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cheesekake:
AT&T Has changed the exception upgrade program. Any smartphone costs $250 more than the lowest price when doing an "early exception upgrade".
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] androidpixar:
Thanks guys! So I obviously ended up getting it but wanted to know if I could root it using the following link, since I don't know squat about ODIN or how to work it, I'd rather use this "one click" to root it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1340710
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
If your phone is runing 2.3.5 yes u can use the acs easy root. If.its 2.3.6 no u have to use the odin method. Its really.very simple.if u just read and follow the directions exactly
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] androidpixar:
Always to the rescue Silver! :) Phone is running on 2.3.5 so leaning towards using the above one. The Odin one looks scarey for a noob like me. Esp with the warning before the instructions about how you need to be adept in ODIN.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Well they are both easy but with odin its easier to screw up your phone. Lol yeah bezt bets the ond click method. Howard county? Lol i live in carroll county ...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] androidpixar:
Yeah def do not wanna screw up my phone, and since I've always screwed up my BlackBerrys back when I was using them, when it came to upgrading OS for it from other carriers, I will try n refrain from screwing up with Android!

No kidding? Now thats funny! You know what this means? I'm gonna bother you like no man's bizness when I need help! :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] sumeet909:
Is it possible to take screenshots with 2.3.5 (skyrocket).

Need to use a special app after jailbreaking on infuse to take screenshots.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Yes press and hold the home key then quickly press the power button and then release both. No app needed
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -BoneZ-:
Posted over at DroidDog, it appears that the new Galaxy Nexus is currently the fastest phone available when it comes to the browser:

http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...hone-4s-and-droid-razr-as-fastest-smartphone/

And while the browser benchmarks are impressive, DroidDog did go on to say:

Hopefully, we'll get to experience the quickness very soon whenever Verizon gets off their hinds and releases our phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oscillik:
might want to change the title of this thread, it is disingenuous to say the least...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
I disagree. A majority of the review sites use the Browser benchmarks as the ultimate decider on how good a phone is. A phone isn't used for gaming very often...but *is* used for browsing. The browsing score is much more important to most people than the gaming scores. As long as it plays most basic games I'm fine with it...but having the browser be the quickest is very important to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] oscillik:
oh okay, fair enough.

The browser is damn fast on the thing, i love it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hotleadsingerguy:
:(

Well when Verizon steps up their game I'll be excited to try it out haha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pewpewbangbang:
browser improvements seem to be mostly linked to ICS as well as the TI OMAP having to do a little with it.

The Nexus S with ICS seemed to get a huge boost in browser performance.

Let's see how GSII and other devices stack up against the GN once they get ICS.

The Galnet ICS port for GSII shows it getting faster sunspider score than the Galaxy Nexus by a bit. Though this one is clocked at 1.6ghz. I'd say its an even battle.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] htcplussony:
Would be nice if people actually link to Anandtech as thats where the original graph came from in the original post.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -BoneZ-:
It would be nice if people were actually informed and read the article in the OP. Mail Online conducted the test and posted the original graph. Apology accepted. :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] htcplussony:
Please read the original Mail Online article.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -BoneZ-:
I stand corrected.

PWNT, burned at the stake, then buried. *runs away with tail between the legs*
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TonyHoyle:
lol. You think the *Daily Mail* are capable of running benchmarks?

They nicked the graphs from anandtech. They even admit it...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Egan:
Exactly! My Optimus 2X getsa score of 113592...way faster :-D.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] appelflap:
You're right. They've optimized the browser "dramatically" (lol) on ICS. From the Android site: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zetsumeikuro:
Browser mark is flaky at best. I've played with a Bionic and gotten like 93k then 98k with a RAZR. The scores fluctuate a lot. My concern is they said the phone stutters, the display is pixelated and the audio issues. Plus Verizon is gonna bloat it down :( sad day for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nex7er:
Too bad the Note "smokes" the Nexus. ;p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] voxigenboy:
browser speeds are cool(if you're into that), but who uses stock browser anyway? Its all about, how well does it multitask? Handle 720P video playback? GPS lock? Does it get hot easily like HTC phones? Will the screen bother your eyes like the RAZR?..

And Ofcourse, FPS on Angry Birds? SIRI(IRIS) issues? ;P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MeZmeriZe_:
I get 4000 in quadrant and the only thing in the graph on anttoto that is faster than my note is the transformer prime.

Also getting 1900 in sunspider on a big stock galaxy note. I think the note will kick even more as a when ICS is released in jan/feb.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DirgeExtinction:
Where did you hear the display on the Nexus is pixelated? Every review I've read highly praises the display, going as far to say it's one of the best, if not the best, displays out there. And Verizon's gonna "bloat it down"? Two apps, both required by Verizon so the phone can be used on their network. If that's "bloating it down", then yeah...dunno what to say.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] richmelchr:
Well no Duh! Apple took a year old phone, slapped 2 pieces of upgraded hardware and sold it as new. The sad part is that its not faster in every department. If there gonna sell a year old phone as new, they better have the stats to support it.

The funny part is a Lot of Apple customers wont admit it, but they really want a bigger screen. So Apple can do either of 2 things, make the iPhone 5 with a 4.5inch screen in which case I will love to watch all the iSheep who said that they loved having a small phone squirm. Or keep it small to save face and make the iSheep suffer with the tiny ass screen.

I love watching how frequently Apple grasps for fallacious arguments just so they don't have to admit that they were wrong. Not a Humble corporation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Yumunum:
What are you taking about? The 4S is a beast. It owns in the spec department. No denying that. And who says all the "iSheep" want small screens? Read more Apple forums - there are varying opinions. A big screen was one of the most wanted things for the 4S. Also, what do you mean "The sad part is that its not faster in every department."? Are you talking about whether the 4S was faster in every department than the 4? Cuz it is. EVERYTHING on the 4S is speedier than the 4, whether it's app loading, games, animations, browsing, even data speeds.

Get off your high-horse, and realize that the Nexus and iPhone 4S are basically head to head. No one is better than the other - it all depends on what you want. Both have very distinct and exclusive features that you can't replicate on the opposing handset. It comes down to what you need. Both are amazing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SchmeeForce:
It maybe be me, but how can you compared android devices which are on different OS's. Maybe when they are on ICS then comparison can happen, but to compare 2.3.6< and 4.0 is like maybe ... well I let you imagination think about that.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] n7188u:
Hello,

I just got a BB White HTC Flyer and I love it. Everything so far seems to work fine but I have a small issue with Skype.

It works but when I am dialing, the ring tone is present only through the headphone output. Not a big deal since once the call is answered the phone switches to external speakers. The headphones are obviously not connected and BT is off.

Also, does anyone know how to get the incoming call ring a little louder. I can hear the vibrator motor more than the ring :)

Chris
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] PolishDude:
Well last weekend I dropped my Galaxy Note, it's been bothering me ever since and although the damage is minor...no one actually notices it by just looking at the phone unless I point it out to them, it bothers me, and I figured I am going to be with this phone for probably at least a year so why not just get another one and sell this one while prices are still somewhat high here in the states. Plus I spend my money in stupid ways anyhow so why not order a brand new Note. I already have a case in the mail as well as a screen protector, however they did not make it here in time for my current note :( hopefully they will make it here before my new Note arrives. Could of bought a white one but I actually prefer the look of the "blue" one. I think my roommate will buy my current note off of me for $650 so in the end it shouldn't be that painful of a pill to swallow :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] LordManhattan:
You're not crazy. I would do the same :p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] moom999:
I will do the same if that happened with me

I did it before with the Samsung omnia just for small scratch on the screen

That small scratch was bothering me because I was keep looking at it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sirrdeezy:
I ordered one u shudda put insurance on it i did
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ph00ny:
I dropped mine last night walking down wall st. I'm thinking of doing the same (minor scratches on the outer edge)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] blackstar84:
I would never dream of using this phone without the flip cover you are an idiot if you do, the screen is too big..and yeah..a flip cover is the best method to protect..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] sectorlord:
Welcome to the club !!!

We are all silicon addicts .... No life ..hehehe
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] peare:
Are you happy with the original flip cover. Expansys UK just shipped mine.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ph00ny:
thanks for calling me an idiot
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] nbass668:
I will do the same :) and I ordered a flip cover right after reading your post...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] jezza333:
I dropped mine a week back. The car was parked uphill, wearing pants with slippery fabric and the phone had no case... the phone slid out of my pocket and onto the pavement when I went to get out of the car.

The marks are annoying me too, however I want the LTE variant of this phone if it gets released and I'm curious as to whether we'll see a v2 of the Note next Feb at MWC, so I'm not sure what to do just yet.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] NookFan:
The Best Buy website still shows the Flyer @ $299, but both online and all the stores I checked are out.

Any thoughts/news on whether this is due to strong sales or end-of-life? I enjoy mine so much my mom decided to get one, but now we can't find one.

Jeff
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rbebber:
http://reaganwireless.com/htc-evo-view-tablet.php

32g, same price
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jamus28:
I realize that ROM development for the view and flyer is different. However, are they both equally rootable? Do they both receive the same regular updates from HTC, including the most recent 2.3.4?

Will they both receive the same HC update in the [indefinite] future?

I'm just wondering if there is a risk to buying the View over the flyer
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] johnnypollen:
I just got mine from Techforless. Delivered earlier than expected; it was refurbished, but looks brand new; and works like a charm. Meanwhile, Ijust finished following globatron's awesome guide to installing Honeycomb with no problems at all.

mcoup10off should get you 10% off for another day, i think (found the code online).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rbebber:
No prob rooting and the last update came quicker than the flyer, hc, still waiting.