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[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] snout:
Tested battery again after a full cycle discharge then charge.

after 11 hrs sleep lost 3% = good for me :D.

did the full charge in phone off mode - disconnected battery for 10 mins.

Plus still no button off bugs etc. Running great !

Sounds like scripts need cleaning out for users Having problems ?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] JJEgan:
Agree mate

Always take no notice of posters with n u and other childish methods of communicating is what i never ever do .

jje
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] pay.c:
Hey!

Encountered following bugs using Phoenix 1.27 and KK2 Stock ROM:

- Changing to other governor than lionheart fixes CPU rate to last value. New governor (e.g. ondemand) won't change CPU rate.

- BT HID not working (like in many other Kernels)

- Quadrant will give me forced close right at beginning of Benchmark with activated Quadrant Hack

Just fyi

Best, pay.c!
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] 13pointseven:
KNZO, can I make a suggestion of implementing an option to downgrade kernel from phoenix app and also have you any plans of enabling mDNIe so as to change color and sharpness in cyanogen?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
In the works:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13427114/device-2012-01-28-143515.png

As for all suggestions made here, they are always considered. Always.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] meniak:
Are YOU planninG to havE a look at written English?

Do ask someone else to teach you.

If you'd write code the way you write English, we'd all need a batch of new phones...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] s2d4:
so with all this evidence, what does it actually mean on xda?
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] meniak:
See, I work in multi-room audio installation and I know I can't explain all the technical stuff to a customer. Instead I just need to make a simple GUI and explain it accordingly so the customer can actually USE it!!! I know that just a small mistake can make a world of difference if let's say an amplifier switches to a wrong input. Customers don't care WHAT is wrong, they just want it to work like it's meant to work.

That said, I used Siyah, N.E.A.K., Speedmod and a bunch of others without touching scripts or governors and I feel by just flashing a Kernel Phoenix is the snappiest to me.

Let me just be the ignorant customer here and don't give a s**t how stuff works, it just works, that's good enough for me.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
That subject has long been dropped.

And it's not evidence at all since the "recipe" I described wasn't applied to update3's conservative while he thought I did, thus rendering that post claims invalid (except the code changes analysis).
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] :
well like some guy said above me this kernel works for me so I don't care about dev-fights.

please keep the good work!

and for those that come here only to fight and give negetive comments- firstly, if the guy says he got features that are only avaible in his kernel and you got it too- just say so in your topic. donno why your mad about it. its common marketing.

secondly, if someone really did steal someone elses work- pm the moderetors and they will look into it(we all know they do take it seriously).

other then that dont come in this thread and bash someone.

my 2c.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] Entropy512:
See, the problem with this is that a customer will just believe that the salesman is telling them the truth.

If they're not, and someone accuses the salesman of misleading their customers with lies and misinformation, it becomes a case of one person's word against the others - unless the accuser comes with technical evidence that the salesman is lying. That was the primary purposes of my initial technical analysis, and of the technical analysis of his "recipe" for LionheartX - which also has now proven to be a lie. In fact, the analysis I was responding to was knzo's only technical defense of his outrageous and excessive claims regarding Lionheart - and even that proves to be a lie.

Well, I was going to drop it, but since you seem to still wish to mislead your customers:

The discussion at hand was in regards to your claims that the Lionheart governor provided capabilities that were not provided by any other governors that have been tuned by reducing the minimum polling rate.

So - Why did you even bother to post that patch list? You claimed it was a recipe for a feature in this kernel, but clearly - it is not. Why did you post a patchset for a Froyo kernel in a discussion thread for a Gingerbread kernel?

All devices that come with stock Gingerbread use a 2.6.35.7 kernel to my knowledge (some Gingerbread ports to devices that never received it have older kernels) - Your recipe not only could not have been applied to the I9100 update3 sources, it could not have been applied to ANY 2.6.35.7-based kernel. So why is it that your only technical defense of your outrageous claims isn't even relevant in any way to the discussion?

So, at this point, we have:

knzo makes outrageous and false claims regarding the capabilities of his governor

knzo attempts to hide the origin of his code by deleting all of the original documentation (comments) within the code he started with

knzo attempts to misdirect technical discussion by posting patchsets completely irrelevant to said discussion

What are you trying to hide, knzo? It is clear you are trying to hide something.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] :
Entropy512, seriously,

if your making all of this DRAMA because kenzo said he got unique features that other kernals have as well then you really are a troll.

we dont care about these fights, and if this bugs you then PM Kenzo and a moderator and sort it out. stop ruining this thread.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] FallenOut:
This is my final post on this.Anyone still wants to quote me, then I suggest to drop it and let's do PM instead.The English I used is a short form that I always used.And coming in that English is not my native language.Never have I said I am a developer or I am going to write some codes and such.Don't put words into my mouth.And your English is nothing to shout about.Considering that you put capital letters at the end of your words.I do think that you should really find someone to give you some basic course on your English.Or are you too poor to afford a new phone on your own?

What that I quote on that guy is valid.How old are you?Do pay more attention to what he and I said.Don't blindly jump to a conclusion without looking at the big picture.Just because this happens to be the thread that you worship means anything and everything to you.

Anything else.Can look for me in PM.And furthermore anyone that quotes me again, I would reply.So my presence here is not needed and I trust that I also won't like to linger anymore.Anything please do drop me a PM and not quote me again.Do me and yourself a favor.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
And the sherlock holmes is back again.

I'll give you one last reply before you go emo again.

My claims were that Lionheart governor != (conservative + lionheart tweaks).

You see, I already understood your point of view but as blind as you are you still haven't caught mine. You reduced everything I changed in conservative to just one modification which according to you is the only one contributing to performance. And this one change is present on the other kernels, correct. However, I disagree and I don't discard the other changes, so in my perspective, lionheart governor is more than lionheart tweaks. After we talked about this I saw this commit from simone201 which is basically bringing his conservative closer to lionheart, showing there's more to it than just one modification, regardless of the end result.

I already answered you that sherlock.

If you want to unravell this mystery, you better read what people tell you.

I'll say again: the recipe or patch list as you call it, are for a governor called Scary which is also based on conservative. If you look into my source, you'll see its reference and the proper credits. My advice is: grab that governor, follow my patch list and diff it with Lionheartx. It's the same. Did you get it this time?

Nope. It's more like - at this point we have:

- knzo makes a perfectly valid claim since lionheart governor != lionheart tweaks, regardless of the ending performance. If a car has the same horse power than another, doesn't mean that their engine or parts is the same. But some idiot can't put context on this claim and so he doesn't understand.

- knzo deleted documentation (and probably debugging if existed) because he doesn't like it and always does the same to the overall kernel (remove debugging, tracing, crap, documentation) and drivers such as the touchscreen one (1.27). But this never crosses the mind of some paranoid idiot who always see the world and persons through dark shades. Besides, why would knzo hide the origin of code when from day 1 he said where it came from, shared links for each patch and even wrote a recipe with step-by-step?

- knzo defends himself against accusations from getting code (since stealing doesn't apply to GPL) from siyah, neak and netarchy while the recipe for getting to lionheart clearly shows otherwise and is relevant to the discussion. But some idiot ignores this because he just wants to burn the other guy.

No dude, I've been transparent since the beginning.

You're just one very self-centered and arrogant individual who seemingly has a grudge against me for whatever reason and doesn't listen to reason nor to users requests to stop being a dip****, probably because you hate Cristiano Ronaldo and you decided I should be the one to pay.

I've already lost hope of rectifying your tone, insultingly claims and overall childish attitude but I won't have you conspurcate this thread with any more of your silly crying.

Next post is going straight to the moderator. If you're a rabid dog who doesn't go to off-mode, you just need a muzzle.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] meniak:
I don't know which world you're living in and don't know if New York is anything else than the rest of the world but a salesman is NEVER telling a customer the whole truth!!!

Can you prove that Siyah's kernel will really rule them all??

If the AB-coach will give me the body I always wanted, why am I not growing huge breasts, blonde hair and an "always in the mood" attitude??

Cause advertising sells better than just telling the whole truth. As I said before, people don't want a technical explanation, they just want to know why it will work for them. If it does just that, job's done. Geez, you're from the States, you of all people should know that marketing sells more than technical truth!!! On TV, your advertising sporadically is interrupted by shows.

You might have a point with all technical explanation, I don't know and don't care, but you're just on a crusade to get this guy. I'm sure if Knzo didn't release a paid app, you wouldn't bother attacking him. You had plenty of time to start your little crusade when he made Void. Noone forces anyone to buy the app and hey, if you want to make one, go ahead, but don't ruin anyone's thread the way you do, we're not doing it on your thread too.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] apeiron6:
I found battery life is better on 1.25 that on 1.27. Performance is the same.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] rizcom:
knzo any news of a next release or changelog thanks
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] DaLuigi3:
hi,

i'm on the latest MIUI ROM.

If boot in to the CWM Recovery and choose install zip from sd card i get the error message: can't mount sd card...

whats the problem?

greetz
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] PhilAd:
Hi,

the first thing I've tested was BT in my car and the car of my girlfriend. In both tests he disconnects after a while and I have to reconnect.

The same problem exists in other kernels like siyah. Also the cm7 and miui stock kernels had problems with that, but they fixed it a while ago.

Other than that a clean kernel with usefull tweaks and a very nice tweak app.

Hopefully BT will work correctly in the future. Wpuld really like to use this kernel instead of the cm stock kernel.

Samsung Galaxy S II with CM7.1 using Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] meniak:
Those capital letters were the letters you "forgot" to write in your "short form" Given you're not a dev and don't write code, who are you to make an attempt at inphantile poetry. I come from Belgium, I'm not too poor to afford a new phone, not that I have to, but in my country phones don't teach English.

I guess my English is quite OK, given it's also not my native language, but I'm willing to learn some more from a big poet like you. I already learned that in Malaysia final comes right after last...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] gokhanmoral:
"one kernel is to rule them all" is just a slogan and it was chosen when I supported both samsung and aosp roms with a single kernel image and I thought it was something original.

Entropy512 means something else. about the lionheart governor in void.echo: if any recognized developer inspect the sources and claim it has any more benefit than decreasing the sampling ratio of the conservative governor from upstream (v3.0 or higher UNMODIFIED) I would be glad to spit on his face and the one who recognized him.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
Releases will be slower from now on but I think you can expect one new version in the following days, I will revert jRCU. Maybe try Tree preempt. Same applies for the app; first is the cpufreq and vdd interface, then I already have some new ideas but these things take time!

Either way, does anyone know when ICS is coming out? And does Samsung usually release the source along with firmware or it has some delay?

Since this is my first Samsung, I'm a bit off on these "routines".
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tomeks:
I think everyone get already that the benefit is from decreasing the sampling ratio.

but it still comes to the default values of the kernels.

marketing is always the same in every dev case here.

slogan like for example 'one kernel to rule them all' is the same nonsense as name lionheart for parametric changes in the governor. so what?

this exchange of the 'ideas' between you all is still without any sense, because no one really care here how something is done but how it is working mostly by default.

it was interesting to some point, but right t now in this exchange of opinions there is nothing new.

and as far as i remember it was you who said that it is no money what gain any respect. i do not think that spiting and that kind of language is that thing.

i do not even start the topic about lack of understanding of gpl license - no one steal anything from anybody nor violate gpl

my 3 cents without insulting anyone here
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] PhilAd:
Please stop such a useless discussion and try to fix BT if possible :) both kernels do not rule this on an aosp rom :) seems only to work fully on sam roms

Samsung Galaxy S II with CM7.1 using Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] 5152:
It seems that in March ... Samsung has some problems:D

P.S.: Sometimes the battery is melting before our eyes. Default settings. Please fix it.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] gokhanmoral:
I used that words to emphasize how strong the argument is and how much I am sure about that fact.

it was not about gpl nor stealing anything. you either did not read the posts or did not understand any part of them.

anyone who can use windiff, winmerge, kdiff, beyondcompare or any similar programs can easily prove the point by comparing linuxkernel v3 conservative governor with so-called lionheart governor.

and it was started by knzo calling droidphile (and indirectly me) a liar because I was the one who gave that description to him.

my point was that if somebody should have been called a liar it would have been knzo not me or droidphile.

please read once again the posts from the beginning. or not...

EDIT: and please do not compare apples with oranges. I am not marketing anything in my thread and I always try to be original. I think it requires more than changing some numbers and so... I am already proud and happy that people find most of the changes original and they put them in their kernels including knzo.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] zikarus:
Please settle your discussion via pm and stop spamming this thread. It is enough now - please think about behaving according to your age...

GT 9100 tapatalking
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
Depends on the perspective.

I'm not a liar because lionheart != (sammy's conservative + lionheart tweaks). This is a fact.

There are more changes to it than just the sampling one. You can argue your way that the others aren't important but they are there nonetheless and simone201 just commited them to his own repo after I showed my changes.

On the other hand, I recognise how I was unfair to droidphile as he was only trying to help by providing the description and when he PMed me explaining his perspective I promptly said I was sorry as it wasn't my intention to sound unfair and make him feel bad. That's right, if people talk to me instead of making a fuss or accusing me, I'm actually quite polite and concerned with others well-being. You received a PM too Gokhan, so you should know this - and you aren't following your reply by feeding this...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] tomeks:
ok, sorry, no more chip entertainment :-)

i wanted to be more specific in the answer, but as me myself wrote it not leads to stop this kind conversation :-)

sorry GK that i was generalized. from your answer it seems you have taken everything to yourself. it was not the intention for the previous mail.

have a good evening, at least in this part of the Europe everyone :-)
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] droidphile:
'Been there done that', Knzo. Whichever philosopher or soul said "words are sharper than a sword" knew that the world will become what is it today.

Imagine if you'd had PMed me first when you saw some user quoting me on lionheart explanation, then this whole thing wouldn't have happened. The present world is so modern and 'high' on technologies, but we have no time machine..so can't help it...
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] gokhanmoral:
your lionheart governor is just the conservative governor from linux v3+ and that won't change how much you defend it.

oh right.. you also changed the thresholds? duh!

I did not PM you about this because the discussion is already public and you are still denying.

as long as you claim that it is different that conservative governor from upstream I will correct it.

I also has workqueue and kthread implementations from upstream, as well as the conservative governor. that is why it makes conservative+lionheart tweaks equal to your lionheart.

maybe I should also consider renaming workqueue implementation as lionass :P

I have already given a link to a diff and IT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME AS YOUR LIONHEART GOVERNOR and this makes your recipe nonesense and bull**** :)

there is just no way that you could have applied those patches and get exactly the same lines (with the exception of some comments).

so, as long as you defend that lie it makes my posts such as this one legitimate and meaningful.

sorry pal but your continued efforts of defending yourself against those evidences and also Enropy512's are just pathetic.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbutandola:
With all due respect. You've known this from day one. Why just now? Misleading customers? Again, others have done far worse but don't remember you coming to our rescue. Instead, it was dealt with almost seamlessly.

Besides, if as you said, he's lying to "customers " why don't you just report it to the moderators? That will have a much greater effect. You've made your point. Thank you. But this is getting ridiculous. Some devs on here tend to tell everyone how they should behave but forget that the rule is for them as well. Sometimes I wish I had an iphone.

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9100 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
So you're just as idiot as entropy on this matter. Let me get home and you'll have your "bull****" recipe put to work.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] gokhanmoral:
don't bother :p

I will ease it for you. here are all the differences between conservative governor from upstream with your lionheart which is known as conservative governor in the linux world.

< #define DEF_FREQUENCY_UP_THRESHOLD	(80)
< #define DEF_FREQUENCY_DOWN_THRESHOLD	(20)
> #define DEF_FREQUENCY_UP_THRESHOLD	(65)
> #define DEF_FREQUENCY_DOWN_THRESHOLD	(30)

<	delay -= jiffies % delay;
>	// delay -= jiffies % delay;
<	delay -= jiffies % delay;
>	// delay -= jiffies % delay;

<	min_sampling_rate =
<	MIN_SAMPLING_RATE_RATIO * jiffies_to_usecs(10);
<	/* Bring kernel and HW constraints together */
<	min_sampling_rate = max(min_sampling_rate,
<	MIN_LATENCY_MULTIPLIER * latency);
<	dbs_tuners_ins.sampling_rate =
<	max(min_sampling_rate,
<	latency * LATENCY_MULTIPLIER);
>	min_sampling_rate = 10000;
>	dbs_tuners_ins.sampling_rate = 10000;

others are just name changes and removal of comments.

it is identical. don't you understand? :)

there is no way that those recipe could have removed those comments which has nothing to do with the optimization of code.

3 changes... maybe the first one is done by you... second one has almost no effect. and third one is nothing original but lowering the sampling rate which makes the magic.

that is exactly why conservative governor + lionheart tweaks makes the conservative a lionheart without changing the name.

that is the output of:

diff linux-linaro-3.1/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_conservative.c void.orig/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_lionheart.c

I am talking about facts dude...

I am not forging any artificial recipes...

and it is open to anyone. everybody can see linux sources to check that.
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] mbutandola:
You probably don't care but this is the last thing I would have expected from someone like you. My disappointment is as high as was my admiration for your work.

Insults are a reflection of those who utter them.

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9100 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S II Original Android Development] knzo:
Clearly your age didn't make you wiser.

If you weren't being such an asshole right now, you'd read my posts instead of focusing yourself in burning me. If you did, you'd see that the recipe applies to scary governor, not update3 or linaro 3.0.

Now I'll finish my pizza and then I'll post a step-by-step instructions on how to get to lionheart. And by the way, I'm talking about lionheartx (now renamed back to lionheart) which is the default governor in phoenix since day 1. This is the last time I am being called a liar and when I'm done you better not post here again unless it's to tell you are sorry. I had some respect by your talent and what you've given this community but you're having a ****ty and childish attitude I never expected.