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[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Misfit1326:
Thank you so much for these instructions!! This was the easiest Root process I have ever done. I was getting ready to return the tablet and keep my Nook Color but I am so happy with the Tablet now thanks to this!

I just have one question: Is there a fix for the market, yet, to show all the Apps? I have been searching Google and this forum but I'm beginning to think I may be one of the only people with this problem?? Or perhaps I overlooked something. I'd appreciate anyone's help with this. Thanks! :)
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Droidb:
stuck!

ok so i dnt know what I'm doing wrong but i keep on following the direction and everything works fine until i get to the ./go.sh part, when i do that it keeps on saying that the nook isn't connected and to make sure that its on debugging mode but it is! i spent 2 hours trying to figure this out!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] t-r-i-c-k:
You're not the only one with the problem. As far as I know nobody has yet managed to make the market display absolutely everything. In my experience it appears to be apps which make use of location services that seem to be missing. I have been fiddling around endlessly trying to make it work. The last thing I tried was pulling the android sqlite3 settings.db file and injecting sql rows to indicate that I had wi-fi network location available, but all that suceededing in doing is invalidating my entire settings database and breaking for my home catcher button install, for some weird reason.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] t-r-i-c-k:
Do you see the nook mounted as a drive on your desktop?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Droidb:
No, i turned auto mount off
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] jarome1:
You need to mount it for sure!

You may need to make go.sh executable

chmod +x go.sh
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] lilblackgirl:
After futzing with the PC version for hours, I gave up and tried the MAC version you posted here. Rooted on the first try. Thank you for putting this together and making it so easy.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] DEV1SE:
Hmm!

I can't seem to find the Market after seemingly successfully running the script. Everything went off without any problems. Factory reset, ran script, nook rebooted, go launcher ex came up, I see superuser, homecatch, and such.. but there's no visible link for the "Market." Am I missing something? :(

-TIA

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Nevermind! I ended up trying the procedure again, did a Factory Reset and the Market appeared. Major thanks for this incredibly simple script. Minus the little hiccup, everything worked beautifully.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] psternklar:
Does the unroot APK work with this root?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] conundrum768:
The Unroot App runs completely self-contained on the Nook. It should work with any rooting method.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] psternklar:
Thanks. Rooted without a problem!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] mario24601:
Thank you t-r-i-c-k!!!! Just got my Tablet today and took me just a few minutes to root, everything was straight forward and very simple.

I probably won't sleep today, playing with this new toy - my first android tablet. Again, thanks....great work!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] jahbody:
Nook Update Stops all Superuser ability wed dec 21 2011

My Nook did a automatic update and it cancelled all my superuser ability. The update just happened.

Any idea on how to get all that back? Market place is gone for me.

ALERT* Nook Update WILL STOP ALL SUPERUSER ABILITY.

any idea T-r-i-c-k?
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] t-r-i-c-k:
Did you root using this mac method? If so which version of my script? I did have FOTAkill in the zip but it may of been missing from an early version.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] t-r-i-c-k:
The current consensus is that FOTAkill.apk does not work. It appears that some people are getting the update and others aren't. The devicemanager apk has a "interval" setting controlling the time it waits to check for updates. It defaults to 7 days so that probably explains why not everyone is seeing the update at the same time. I have updated the root script to make some sql db changes suggested by Indirect. Fingers crossed they do the trick!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] johninsf:
Thanks for this great work! My NT got the OTA to 1.4.1 so I plan to try your install from a Mac tomorrow. I really appreciate that you added the devicemanger.db changes. This is awesome.

I have never set up SDK on Mac. If you know of a guide/steps, point me to it.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] jarome1:
It is no big deal. Just install the package. If you actually want to develop apps, you must run it and install all the different Android versions, but I think the tools directory (which is what you need) is already there.

You probably want to put the tools directory into your PATH. In .bash_profile in your home directory, you need something like (all on one line):

export PATH=/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/Users/jar/bin:/Users/jar/mpj/bin:/Applications/android-sdk-macosx/tools:$PATH

depending on where you put the sdk. Or you can add it as a separate line after the original PATH:

export PATH=${PATH}:/Users/jar/android-sdk-macosx/tools

A good reason to install the Android SDK is so that you can install Wireless ADB on the Nook and then install things from your Mac "over the air."

adb install <packagename>.apk
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] t-r-i-c-k:
If you just want to root there is no need to install the sdk. My zip has everything you need. You intend to flash back to 1.4.0 first correct? That will be necessary.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] curtym:
Thanks again trick it worked like a champ...
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] deserthi:
It must be something with Mac OSX Lion. Using my MB air and both the nook and the sd card icons come onto my desktop but I keep running ./go.sh and get No such file or directory. The nook has USB debugging active but it just doesn't work.

It really seems like the compter needs something added or turned on? I have flashed back to 1.4.0 on the nook and installed go launcher etc.

Never mind, it worked finally! Now I have a question. How can I get Titanium Backup without turning on wifi. I am worried that B&N will try to update it and that is what started this whole thing of trying take it back to 1.4.0 and re-rooting in the first place.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] t-r-i-c-k:
Where did you download the zip to? Did you run unzip? Give us the output of pwd and ls -lart
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] thegasguru:
It's a Christmas miracle!

Choking back tears of holiday joy!

Thank you sooo much t-r-i-c-k.

And let me be the first to say: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] sickboy82:
Rooting was very easy, just wondering if there was any other steps I needed to take to help prevent any OTA nonsense, rooted using the updated 0.0.6 version, thank you for your hard work
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] t-r-i-c-k:
The latest suggestions for avoiding OTA updates are incorporated in to the 0.6 script version. Whether they are entirely effective remains to be seen.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] t-r-i-c-k:
If you just want titanium to do the trick from Indirect to stop OTA - and you used 0.6 of my script - then you are set already. I already modify the same devicemanager files in the same way he recommends. If you used an earlier version then grab the latest, get your device back in to USB debug mode, then run my otaban.sh script. That will achieve the same.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] tonyp23:
Thanks for the fantastic work!

Mediafire was all hosed when I first tried to DL the scripts but working great now.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] t-r-i-c-k:
My Nook still has not update. Looking good so far.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] sickboy82:
Its been over a week for me and still no update as well, I think its safe to assume there will not be one either, all we need now is an unlocked bootloader to get this show on the road.
[Desire General] Terepin:
Until this will be moved, read this. I'm sure most of you will find yourself in that article:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...om-developers-i-think-we-need-to-have-a-talk/
[Desire General] Chaosz-X:
Definitely +1 on this one, I'm getting sick of 20 Sense ROMs which have the most confusing names ever.
[Desire General] kuroneko007:
Hear hear.
[Desire General] revthanki:
I don't see any problem.

Each of the chefs offers features that others don't. Personally I've found a nice home with Alex V's hybrid of Sense 2.1 and 3.0. It's odexed for great speed and has built in rock solid data 2 ext. Works for me.

It's best not to be so bitter Terepin, or of course you could choose a more 'homogenised' OS - which at some point you were considering, I believe. Where are you on that?
[Desire General] Terepin:
Except that Alex IS a developer, not a wannabe dev.
[Desire General] bortak:
AMEN to that... **** I haven't even tried 75% of the ROMs for the Desire.. I mean thanks a million for spending so much time developing it but...

a lot are based on "OMFGAWESOMESENSEROM1" or "BESTAOSPROMEVER".. and it makes you wonder what the difference between that one is and the ROM it's "based" on other than minor tweaks here and there... Fair enough if you make MASSIVE changes to it, you obviously need to start from somewhere, but taking a ROM giving it a spit shine and slapping on your own branding does not work lol

One ROM has this bug fixed and another present, and another the exact opposite, it'd be nice to see all the devs who are e.g. working on a Sense 3 ROM.. to work together and make one awesome Sense 3 ROM instead of 5.. Of course I'm not saying that doesn't already happen because everyone HELPS each other out.. but imagine what kind of product could be outputted if everyone worked as a team on one large scale project, and take the Cyanogenmod team as their role models.

*gets into bomb shelter*
[Desire General] revthanki:
Alex is a responsive, friendly and kind guy. He's often helped out noobs (with a great investment of time) and I've also seen him give a lot of tips to people who do technically know what they're doing. However, he himself gives thanks to Coolexe and others that have taught him good stuff.

What the AP article seems to be saying is that:

1) the forums might be confusing for a beginner due to the vast number of ROMs and their variety in quality, and

2)new users might not know exactly what they're doing when they flash their first ROM

To which I respond:

1) The chaos breeds gems, some developers start off with ROMs that are bug-plagued nightmares but then either improve or disappear off the list (people power!). If you're going to have the kind of policing of ROMs that AP want, who does it?

2) Everyone's confused when they flash their first ROM, I certainly wasn't sure EXACTLY what was happening to my phone. Being here is a learning experience for users and devs.

---------- Post added at 02:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:50 PM ----------

Once you know what the terms in the title mean then it's easy to distinguish. D2EXT, A2SD, Odexed/Deodexed etc... It's not too hard. Jeez, why do people want everything laid out on a plate for them?

To those who find the choice confusing maybe a simpler hobby would be more to your taste. Maybe knitting? Or trainspotting?
[Desire General] blackhawk_LA:
The problem is that right now, we have an, at first sight, more "heterogenised" OS than it really, is, because 50% of the ROMs are MOD ROMs.

I think that even I!!! could post a "ROM" and call myself a dev as someones do. In fact, I have a very modified ROM, but it's something that every one without any informatics knowledge can do. I've just read some tutorials to make a ROM, based on CM7, with an alternate kernel, odexed, some apps deleted, some apps added, themed,

And call myself a dev makes me laugh to death. So I think all the "new devs" should be more self-effacing (word taken from google translator, hope it's ok :P ) and think that ROM development is NOT for everyone. You need to know a lot that is impossible to learn just by reading xda. Every advanced user can MOD a ROM and share it for the more newbies, but always leaving the name of the ROM and all the credits to the real developer.
[Desire General] rayiskon:
the Slovak guy spams again, u keep facepalming everytime u see noobs post in dev section , but u're not much different, next time post ur spam in "Desire General"
[Desire General] island3r:
The only real solution to this problem is to do the same thing as the SGS2 forum moderators did. Split the development forum into Original and Mod sections. Frankly this should happen automatically on every HTC device forum IMHO.

As for the devs, yes most of the big names have moved on to other devices.

If, however you want to see some real development action right now, you should definately check out the IRC ICS dev channel. That's were real development is going on atm.
[Desire General] bob1369:
Totally agree. I make these minor customizations and add my own themes to my device, but I would never consider posting one of these for general use, or claiming for a second I've done anything significant compared to the real devs who make cyanogen or various other great ROMs. Doing some research and slowly self teaching yourself basic development is a great thing to do. But unless you've created an original ROM, ideally as close to from scratch as possible and thoroughly tested it don't post it on these forums.
[Desire General] Terepin:
Nice try, dude. Except one small tiny thingy: That this thread is meant for wannabe developers. It isn't question, it isn't need for help, nor it isn't chit-chat about weather. And with my "spam" agrees most of users here, furthermore, I'm not author of that "spam".
[Desire General] Alex-V:
he he :) thx :)

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to topic....@ the beginning i also patched other roms to have my personal rom...but i don´t put it online (only cool3d runny...and this was only to give people who want sense 3.5 a feel that odexed is faster :) )

anyway....i think: for start rom development its a good thing to start with custom roms and change the things for personal use...but dont put it online

if you have the skills (from learning with the custom roms from other devs) then make a own rom...and put it online....

i never learned out...we need people like snq, seo, Neophyte, baadnewz, robocik, snq-, ownhere, coutts, melethron, Leedroid, Sub501, coolexe, sibere, droidzone and all we others...to learn...

a good thing would be if people like seo (ported the sense 3 lockscreen and weather), or ownhere for understand more the sqlite patch and how to find values in hex codes for newer roms....or or... - can make a little how to (so poeple can learn this and make it self)

thats why i answer much questions...so i hope the people understand what they do.. :)

i searched also for a good how to to unserstand making kernels...but not found a really nice one...

with kind regards..Alex
[Desire General] rayiskon:
Put on some glasses, i didn't write "Q&A", i said "Desire General" , and Desire General is meant for this type of crap, so writing it in dev. section is spam , yes.
[Desire General] Terepin:
Crap? This is how truth is calling these days?
[Desire General] rayiskon:
i agree with what is said in the article, but that's not the point, this is not the place to post it, rules that u want to be applied on others u should accept to be applied on u too, so next time when u insult "noobs" for openning a thread in the wrong place remember this one too and retell the insults to urself also , coz then it will be fair.
[Desire General] Terepin:
You know that article ain't about Desire, right? It's about ROM developers in general. So, by logic, which section is more suitable?
[Desire General] erklat:
Mostly agree with the article. I hate when someone posts a kang and calls it a ROM. Nice racket we made with a$$paktyn case as the most recent example hehe :)

What I don't agree with is that developers should continue development indefinitely for legacy devices. You should follow their upgrade pattern if you were happy with their work, not the other way around.

This is exactly what drove Neophyte from these forums, whose rom was a customized rom+theme+own kernel. As complete rom as it gets. So I disagree with separation, but insist on repression against kang.
[Desire General] BMelz:
how about here?

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565
[Desire General] Terepin:
Nope, I wanted to address this article directly to our "devs".
[Desire General] anoniemouse:
From my experience most people will gravitate to the better roms through reading feed back etc, also by trying the various roms you can find one that provides the things you want.

People also tend to be lazy & prefer to get a rom pre set to how they want it.
[Desire General] BOOBYROM:
topic should be deleted

I think the thread should go because:

1. everyone of us rooted our phones so we do this knowingly!

2. this kind of whining is exactly like sitting on the couch, watching tv with the remote in your hand and complaining about too much crime on tv. On tv you could switch to Discovery or History channel but you don't... on the desire we could stick to stock rom but we don't...

we strive to flashing because we want a good rom for desire... IMHO we should stick to reporting bugs.... those Devs who adress these bugs... we should flash their roms... those who do not ... forget them.

my opinion. thanks
[Desire General] BMelz:
It doesn't matter what you "want!" What matters is that you posted this thread in the wrong forum and it will be moved. You even acknowledged this in the OP.

Some people just think they're above the rules. I'd love to meet your mother so I could give her a smack in the face.
[Desire General] Terepin:
At least I have mother.
[Desire General] m4rk84:
....children....

Even if i only put my own spin on a ROM, i'd take great pride in having something I thought worth posting on XDA posted on XDA. Perhaps there really should be two sections, developed ROMs and modded ROMs. This would encourage newer 'devs' (And i use the word loosely for fear of offending the kids) as it lets them at least get some feedback on what they are doing rather than them just using their ROMs for themselves and also gives them a sense of contribution i know i wish i could attain...
[Desire General] ironjon:
this could be a good beginning :rolleyes:
[Desire General] erklat:
Dang Terepin, botards are beaten over their heads with facts, not insults. You should have trolled him a little and then report his post to the authorities. That way you don't get your hands dirty and we might get rid of a few whose devices never got an official GB update. :)

Pay some more attention and you'll see that feedback doesn't mean Jack Schitt anymoar here. Not only that it is false information, but it also makes it harder for me to find usable info I need. Most of the time you'll see that -snq's kernels work uber good with Runnymede port, a combination which solves all your issues - financial ones included. Confirmation in respective threads.
[Desire General] Terepin:
Better? ;)
[Desire General] cvejleaa:
How about if someone compared the ROM's in a nice overview.

I personally don't understand half or more of what they are saying, so I'm not a good choice for this.
[Desire General] MatDrOiD:
Agree 100% with the linked article.

@All:

Jumping on Terepin only because he posted this thread in the wrong section is really immature. In difference to most people he had a good reason for posting it there.

@Terepin:

I also noticed the way you deal with noobs here. From my point of view, the message behind your posts is nearly almost right and I agree with it many times. So it's more about HOW you express your opinion, not the opinion itself.

SwiftKeyed from dGB with Transparent XDA App
[Desire General] teorouge:
This is absolute. I'm losing all the "happiness" I had reading posts in ROM threads. There's no ideas exchange, no actual development. Only "Can't boot", "I'm stuck", "What about battery life?", "Can I try other kernel? How do I do that? Should I wipe everything in a 10 km radius?" and so on. I agree with ROM and modded-ROM different section, but there should also be a "Question about ROM XY" topic separated from main ROM thread. Hope I made my point.
[Desire General] Terepin:
I LOLed hard! :D :D :D
[Desire General] Lothaen:
I did wonder if there should be one big bad ass base for each rom and then you could have a list of customizations...

so like one 2.2 / sense 1, one 2.3 / sense 1, one 2.3 / sense 2.1, one sense 2.1 + 3.0 features, one 2.3 / sense 3.0

then people could post their MODS of it in the same threads to prevent spam, and have a mod/OP add to the first posts with them all......

I have to admit - I've been confused sometimes when I try and look to find out what the difference is between one rom, another which is the same ver/sense, and another which looks the same...

It does make sense to work together to have a common goal, especially when its good and stable!

I'm all for using a different variation of a rom because it has x, y or z features, but hate it when they aren't as stable as you think...

The other thing is I always go and tweak the roms anyway to remove junk like Stocks and replacing the bootanimations and stuff so I am modding it myself in a small sense anyway :p
[Desire General] wings401:
loool. Im done :D
[Desire General] pixelmine:
Somebody should make a colourful infographic of all the different ROM/kernel/handset compatabilities.
[Desire General] anoniemouse:
I am actually using a runnymede port with snq's kernel, which is now the most stable & usable rom i have found to date.

This was all done by using the methods i have stated, feedback & trial.

I never pretended it was a perfect or easy way to find what you want, but it does seem to be the only way.

If i find an easier way of finding the best roms i will be sure to let everyone know.
[Desire General] teorouge:
:D

10char
[Desire General] coutts99:
Cheers! :-)
[Desire General] Terepin:
LOL, coutts!
[Desire General] harm007:
@Lothaen :

I agree with "I have to admit - I've been confused sometimes when I try and look to find out what the difference is between one rom, another which is the same ver/sense, and another which looks the same..."

But, I can backup, try ROM and, if I'm not happy, restore...

It's not very difficult : it's just eat some time...

;)
[Desire General] gen_scheisskopf:
My "wannabe-dev" point of view:

-we are lucky to have such a big choice of custom roms even if they are "just mods" -everyone can find what he/she likes the most

-we are "lucky" that Desire has quite similar hardware to NexusOne. Other phones have to rely heavily on files from official and sometimes outdated roms (Eclair libs used in GB for example) or still have locked bootloader. Using official files sometimes requires dirty hacks to make them work

-not every dev wants to program a library or driver from scratch to overcome lack of sourcecode

Anwyay if you don't like how things are nobody forces you to sticking with Android phone and not buying a closed-source one.
[Desire General] Terepin:
Just wait until dev section will be divided into two sections: mods and orginal development. Then you can cook even cakes in your place, the one and only TRUE development will be happening in place where mens are hanging out.
[Desire General] teorouge:
Is it on the way? Decided already? Would be nice.
[Desire General] Pl4ub:
Agree. Few weeks ago went back to stock and yesterday installed the official 2.3.3 stock. Not so much interested into custom roms anymore. Biggest reason might be that I'm using more my Nokia n8. Desire is in more tablet use for me now over WiFi, browsing and tapatalk.