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[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] bigdessert:
This is more of a general question regarding android...if i am moving from device to device like the nook tablet and other android or android based tablets/phones, where would be the best place to purchase an app amazom or google market?

I am thinking in terms of availability on locked down devices and such....
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Drewmungus:
I would personally say google just beause it's much larger and amazon is much stricter than google as far as what apps are avalible in their market.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] PlacidCat:
All true, however, ironically Amazon marketplace may have fewer issues displaying all applications in the marketplace for your downloading privilege. The Google marketplace has metadata associated with each app that allows publishers to indicate what devices/specs are required to run applications. While this is great most of the time, issues like the dpi setting (see GApps topic) may require you to fiddle with settings to fake the market into thinking you have a supported device to "open" the market.

Amazon does not (at this time) have such metadata which is a double-edged sword. On the one hand you may be able to download an app that doesn't work on your device but, on the other hand, it means you may have fewer problems accessing the apps you've already purchased. Amazon does have a few exclusives (like Plants vs. Zombies) at the moment as well. Getting Amazon marketplace up and running on the NT has been easier thus far (though give it time and I bet Google Marketplace will be working without root soon).

My take? Why choose? I have several "free apps of the day" from the Amazon Apps that I've dl'ed and plan on using on the NT. I have several others I've outright purchased from the Google Marketplace that I would like to use as well. Prices on the Google Marketplace can be more competitive in some cases as well.

Ultimately, it's not a simple choice.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] Drewmungus:
Amazon does that. They blocked other ereaders if you have a Kindle fire. I do have both, the free app of the day is sweet. Google does rule the roost so to speak.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] GTOJim:
Amazon market and Google market are both very good, you should consider signing up for both.

I also like Amazon's free app of the day. I'm not saying Amazon is better. Most of the apps I paid for are from Google market. If I had to pick just just one, my choice would be the Google market.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] bigdessert:
I do have both and have purchased from both because amazon has some killer sales sometimes. I was going to purchase an app and was just contemplating what app store to buy from.....sounds like a horse a piece though.
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] PlacidCat:
I should probably have clarified my previous post - if you are looking for purchasing apps, my first choice is Google Market. I generally try an app out as a "free app of the day" on Amazon, and if I *really* like it, I'll buy it on Google's Market. Of the 20 or so free apps I've dl'ed off of Amazon, I've kept maybe 1/3 on my device. Several of those will be uninstalled.

I guess my feeling has been that Amazon tends to screw the app developers (do a Google search and you'll see many stories of this) so I like to throw my money at them on Google Market. I keep both because I like the ability to preview an app without the ads. I've actually avoided purchasing "Plants vs. Zombies", however, because I know I would like to buy it on the Google Market when it eventually gets there.

While I don't exactly feel Amazon is "here today and gone tomorrow", they are the new kid on the block, relatively speaking. Google Market is my market of choice for actual purchases. I sure like having both markets on my device, though. :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
Any one in Canada received the 3.2 update from Samsung or has it not been released here yet?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] frelnik:
I haven't received it yet. Probably not out yet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Deleted member 2879886:
Yes, I have, I'm in Gatineau Quebec and it was there last week and again yesterday when I plug into Kies even if I'm on Task 6.1.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] lgsshedden:
what firmware is the update? Android HC 3.2, but what firmware code specifically?

did you do the update or stay with Task?

Kies will not connect for me regardless of what I do -- I have given up on it and will flash using Odin and download using CheckFus or an uploaded firmware and so it would be nice to know what designation is being presented by Kies.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
official response from Samsung Canada is that it has not bee released here yet and the 3 different CSR's I have spoken to do not know why it has not been released and when it will be.

Wonder if I use Tunnelbear switched to US and then connect Kies if it will pull the update from Samsung US?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jmitr:
And did you purchase your tab in Canada or the U.S.?

Update not available in kies or OTA here (just checked again)

In case it is not clear in my sig, my tab is stock non-rooted
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Deleted member 2879886:
Im on Task 6.1. I bought it new in the box from a gent from Ottawa and I could'nt tell you where its from as I installed a custom rom first thing when I got home. But all my info and registration including Kies points to Canada. I just assumed that like my Asus Transformer OTA were location based not firmware based. Sorry if this misled anyone.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
Unfortunately Tunnel Bear did help get the update.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Lord Wayne:
I am in Canada, and I put the US update on. What would the difference be for Canada?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
How? Samsung Canada have not released it yet.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Lord Wayne:
This is what I did, I rooted my tab, then installed the rom from post #115 of this :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1346227&page=12

I also used the pit file on post #121 of the same thread

using odin. When I plugged in with Kies, it said an update was available.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dmzxls:
Granted I purchased my dad's tab in the states, I was able to get the ota for it in Ontario two days ago. His is stock.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Deleted member 2879886:
Just checked the box its model GTP7510UWR it had software version XXKG6. Inside everything was bilingual so it looks like it was a canadian model, however depending on the rom I had on it, kies may had seen it as a US model. Since I'm on Task 6.1 I don't get the update.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] XXII:
I'm also on a stock tab 10.1 in Ontario and haven't been able to get an update via kies or OTA. Just keep getting the "no update available" message when I check.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
I'm following Samsung on twitter, who have said they will tweet when its released. I'd love to know there excuse for not releasing it yet, they'll probably claim the market is too small and therefore the distribution costs are too high......the usual bull**** we get up her for getting screwed over.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Yeria:
Is there something vastly different between the Canadian version and the US version? If not, I don't see why we should wait around until they release it in Canada...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Lord Wayne:
That's why I upgraded
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
To what, being American? Some would consider that a downgrade!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
I asked the very same question and have had no response from Samsung Canada
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Electroz:
I just flased the US KMM onto my Canadian version. No issues whatsoever and now I should get any future US updates instead of being stuck in the cold waiting for new Canadian versions.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] rcy1:
I must have an American unit then, because I got the 3.2 update last week sometime. 32gb model. Wi-fi, b6 in the serial number if it matters. I bought it used, though, so no idea where it originally came from.

Still can't connect to kies...man, that's some crappy software.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jarjar26:
Can we expect an update before Christmas?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] pngface:
What I don't get is why the Canadian wifi version hasn't received an update yet. How is it in anyway different from the US one?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
The only thing I can think is that Samsung Canada have a ****e translator doing the French Canadian version.

All we can do is keep on at Samsung Canada, I do it via their twitter feeds
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GalaxyNinja:
Give up and install Task 8.0. So much better than stock.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jarjar26:
I think i will give a try to Task 8.0

But I'm not really sure about the installation instruction :

1)Put rom on SD (as usual)

2)MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP IN CWM!!!

3)Backup your apps with Titaniumm Backup! Its always a good idea to save that bacukup on your PC!!!

4)Go into CWM and do a FULL-WIPE!(wipe cache partition, dalvik cache, and wipe data/factory reset!)

5)install zip

6)reboot

What is CWM ? How can i install zip ?

Is there a more detailed instruction somewhere ? Maybe a video tutorial or something like that ?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Yes go to sticky How to root, in Galaxy Tab 10.1 Android Development
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
Well if you are a Rogers customer and have one of their Tab's then you get the update to 3.2 but still nothing from Samsung for wifi only Tab's!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] yohojones:
I just restored my 10.1 wifi with kies and it gave me the 3.2 update.

I had the "In Paris" rom on it and wanted to go back to stock. It failed the first time I had to restore the stock odin and go into download mode but when it tried again the update went through and when I checked the version it now says 3.2.

My 10.1 was bought in Canada, so you guys might want to check again for the update.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
Just checked and no OTA update for me. Is your Tab a Rogers one or the wifi model?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] yohojones:
It's the WIFI model. I didn't do OTA I ran Kies and connected the cable.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Where did you get the stock FW? If its not one that you saved when you rooted the first time it is most likely US. Whats the build number?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] yohojones:
I connected the Tab to Kies while it was running the "In Paris" rom and Kies told me there was an update. Kies downloaded the the update for me.

My build number is HTJ85B.UEKMM P7510UEKMM

All Roms and rooting were done using the galaxytabhacks.com page.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
If I could get Kies to talk to my Tab via either wifi or USB I'd try it but I can't, why is Kies such a shower of ****e!!!!!!!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Ok it was trying to upgrade Paris 3.1 EKMM (US), the 3.1 FW for Canada wifi model is, HMJ37.XXKG6. I which I hadnt lost my back up in case something goes wrong and need to service my tab. Maybe one of these day someone will make a dump.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jarjar26:
Tried this morning through Kies and still no 3.2 update available :(

Ma father has a Toshiba tablet and he got the 3.2 update several week ago.

I'm not sure if i will continue to recommend Samsung !
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Just save it on a PC (dont forget to email me a copy ;)) Then install Task's Galaxy Task 8.0. You dont need to root your tab, the rom does it, just odin CWM.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dsixda:
I had Wi-Fi connection problems with Task 8.0, so I went back to a rooted stock 3.1. I guess I'm happy with 3.1 despite it being slower. I hope it is just a matter of days till we get 3.2... keep in mind that Cyanogen will also have a version soon for our device.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
I hope we are not far off getting the update, Rogers customers got the update this week so surely Samsung are going to release it to wifi very soon now.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
WIFI problems with Task 8.0?? Sucks! Hmm! CM! Don't hold your breath this wont be till next year sometime. I hope they improve ICS cuz what Ive use on the Nexus is...well...I'll stick to Task's 8.0
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jonnyg1097:
Unbelievable. I got the Wifi version because I thought that Samsung would be releasing it sooner than Rogers would be. I am disappointed in Samsung. If I knew it was going to be the other way around I would have waited for the Rogers version and gotten that. I would have at least been able to use the 4G at the same time.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dsixda:
No, Cyanogen himself posted on G+ that CM would be coming soon to the GT10.1, so we could probably assume it's going to be an alpha version.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
You can use it on 4g if you have a suitable phone, just put it in wifi hot spot mode. I too am pissed at Samsung Canada, I've asked them repeatedly on Twitter and had no response.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] :
Absolutely right! As you said the Alpha is not even out let alone the Beta so it will be a while if we are lucky and it only takes 2 weeks each it'll be a month before we see anything useable.

---------- Post added at 10:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:57 PM ----------

Absolutely right! As you said the Alpha is not even out let alone the Beta so it will be a while if we are lucky and it only takes 2 weeks each it'll be a month before we see anything useable.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jarjar26:
Tired to wait the update from Samsung, i have managed to install Task Rom 9 :) It's not so difficult to do, but i took times to read many threads on this.

Very similar to the stock rom but with few additions, and 3.2 give a good performance boost, i should have done this before !!

Looking forward to the Task ROM with ICS now :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
Hoe easy on a scale of 1 to 10?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jarjar26:
It depends on how technical you are, but i would say 8.5.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] wewewi999:
Just bought mine used from the internet.

Rogers Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-P7500R;

The guy was complaining about the lag (among other things)

Of course, the first thing I did, once back home was to check out the updates;

was on

Android 3.1

Baseband P7500RUXKH4

Kernel 2.6.36.3 se.infra@SEI-45 #1

Build HMJ37.UXKH4 P7500RUXKH4

Now on

Android 3.2

Baseband P7500RUXKK2

Kernel 2.6.36.3 se.infra@SEP-63 #1

Build HTJ85B.UXKK2 P7500RUXKK2

Tought the guy was stupid not havin updated his tablet; but if the release is very recent and a guy isnt a xda-engadget-techno-geek, maybe he can mis a thing or two.

Now, where's my ICS? The Tab 10.1 should figure among the first to get this (probably last) update!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] helio2k:
OK just did the Samsung OTA Update with Rogers Galaxy 10.1 and updated to the latest Version.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
Rogers Tabs have the update but Samsung haven't released it to wifi only Tabs for some unknown reason.......personally I think they are taking the piss.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] PitbulI:
So is it worth it for me to even contact Samsung Canada support over the phone and ask why?

I just got this tablet for Christmas and while I chose this tablet, I'm beginning to have second thoughts with the Transformer Prime coming out soon. I have till the first week of January if I want to return it.

It's sad seeing Acer and Asus tabs getting this update while Samsung is treating Canadian customers like Lenovo and only having 3.1 on these things.

I've already had the power off issue where I had to hold the power button for 12-15 seconds for it to turn on for me.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] jonnyg1097:
I hope they arent updating this because they plan on going straight to 4.0
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] PitbulI:
I like a company to be on top of their products. I don't understand what is stopping them other than some bilingual holdup or something.

I give them till next week to update this tab 10.1 to 3.2 or 4.0 or I'm switching to Asus. I've been had over in bad quality products from samsung before.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] brownstar69:
It's not a bad quality product and many regional Samsung's have provided the update, if you have a Rogers one you can update. You could try calling Samsung and asking, how the update came out in the USA in November so the chances of it coming on here in the next week are remote IMO.

I'm waiting or the Cyanogen ICS mod to come out then I'm rooting and installing it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] thecoach1999:
Task 10

I decided to to upgrade to Task 10 and I'm quite happy. Very little lag and easy to install. This was my first ROM install after ROOT and I had no problem. :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] GalaxyNinja:
If i was still on 3.1 i would not be happy. Go ahead and call samsung to file your complaint. It is really unfair that you would need to root the tablet to make it usable.

That being said, if you're comfortable rooting and installing a custom rom you will feel a lot better about the money spent.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] g4hsean:
I hate Samsung!

You know i am just as pissed as all you guys in here. I bought the Samsung in august thinking it'd be the best tablet for school since it was one of the first to boast the tegra dual core chip with blazing speeds. Sure it was slow at first because of android 3.1 and i was willing to wait for the update. But when 3.2 came out some time back and Samsung didn't release it to us Canadians that made me mad. It's the 3rd time I (a Canadian) got ****ed by Samsung. First was my LED T.V from Samsung that advertised the Netflix app that was never there. Then after calling up Samsung directly they told me i needed a firmware update in order to run netflix, which is where i got ****ed the second time because the update was given only to American units and not Canadian. Finally they screwed me again with my tablet. This is the last Samsung product I ever by ever again and i will be telling others to stay away from their product. I mean they make pretty good hardware but the rest just sucks massively!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] bertiespeed:
my tab came in today took it out of box backed it up then played with it for 2 hours stock . Flashed task 10 after and for a first time android user was very easy and made quite the differance compared to stock 3.1 ! But shortly after noticed the newton ring thing so looks like i will be returning to stock and getting a new one .
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] PitbulI:
Hopefully I have time tomorrow to call Samsung and see what's holding up the update to Canadians. Hopefully they understand what my inquiry is as well and don't start troubleshooting and simply repeating words from a non current knowledgebase entry.

I've been checking out reviews of other tablets lately and it seems the other two that are good priced and good quality are the Asus Transformer and Acer Iconia. I might have to go that route.

Update:

I called Samsung this afternoon. The person I talked to said that he is aware that Canadian customers do not have the update and he has no idea on when it will become available if ever. I know he is just reading off some knowledge base but this is truly scary that unless I root it, I could be stuck in 3.1 forever with this thing.

I will most likely be taking this back next week and going with either Asus or Acer.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] dsixda:
Thanks for letting us know about their response. Asus Eee Pad Transformer is really really good but both of mine had build issues - dead pixel and creaky bezel. I also had the Acer Iconia A500, and it was also top-notch except for the fact that the mic is a huge disappointment... in other words, don't use it for Skype or recording videos. The Tab 10.1 is a premium device but 3.1 is frustratingly slow. Yeah, just root it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] PitbulI:
Sad thing is I know all these tablet makers have no reason to offer the ICS upgrade to any of these year old tablets but 3.2 should have been done.

That's one thing Apple has over all these makers, when IOS is available, unless your product is really old, you get the update.

I wish Google had the power to at least upgrade their OS and not allow all these UI customizations to hurt the consumer because I know most of us can't stand these custom UI mods.

I've also seen that the Motorola Xoom has a good price. Hmm.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] silverball.slayer:
The main reason I stuck with the galaxy tab after trying all the others, was the great display it has. It also has pretty good sound. As far as I am concerned, most of the other tablet manufacturers used displays that were poor looking compared to the likes of the ipad2 and galaxy tab 10.1. However the galaxy tab is neutered here in Canada because you can only get it in a 16gb flavour and of course there's no micro sd card slot.

Is it market manipulation or is there some logical reason we are getting the shaft here in Canada with the hardware and software? Even my SGSII phone hasn't got 1 update since I got it last august. The GPS absolutely blows chunks on it with the current stock rom.

Rob

oh and some large website reported android tablets as one of their top 10 tech fails of 2011. I can see why they might think that, but I don't necessarily agree with it. For the average non technical user, an ipad still might be a better choice at the moment.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] Yeria:
I'm starting to get the feeling Samsung is going to skip 3.2 completely for WiFi only Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Canada and just come out with an ICS update in the next couple months.

Of course I'd like the 3.2 update but I'm not having any big issue with 3.1 right now so I don't care too much. It's not like 3.2 is going to be the next best Android for tablets anyway. Samsung announced the ICS update last year so that's good enough for me.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] danyjad:
I managed to upgrade it with the USA firmware (got wifi version) and now I don't have the French Canadian Samsung keyboard layout (for use with dock). Anyone knows a ROM that would include this???
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DT3CH:
Its pointless waiting for official releases in Canada, I remember way back when I waited for the 2.3 update for my SGS, I gave up and installed a leaked version, best move I ever made, same goes for the tab dont waste your time waiting for the official update, try out the ICS KANG in the dev section, it actually turns the tab into what it was always supposed to be a great tablet, I actually stopped using my tab for a long time since I was tired of the laggyness of it and overall crappy feel, Im back to using it again now ever since the KANG
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] gdmuscle:
Hey there not sure if this relavent but I did get the samsung Galaxy Tab updated to 3.2 here in Canada. I have the GT7500R Rogers 4G and got the 55mb update strange such a small file yet it updated the 3.1 to 3.2? The only I hate is the Rogers bloat while not as bad as AT&T and others. I mean I don't read Mcleans, or even like Hockey not sure why they put that stuff on there. I guess we might get it for the GT7510 as I have that too, and nothing yet. although I used the US 3.2 version and flashed it.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] DT3CH:
Good old carrier bloatware the plague of Android
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] B407:
Just got my 3.2 update on my Canadian wifi only galaxy tab 10.1
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] XXII:
I suppose better late than never, but I also just updated my Tab this morning to 3.2. Here's hoping a similar delay won't happen with ICS.
[LG Thrill 4G] Urabewe:
OK I might be the only one who gets a kick out of this. Go to google.com click the turkey's feathers, head or feet to change them. Clicking on the wing gives the turkey a random look. I dont know why but, I think it is hilarious.

...fighting ninjas at night, talkin' about this and that.
[LG Thrill 4G] CoryMac913:
i clicked on the bird and got thanksgiving related search results... lol
[LG Thrill 4G] Urabewe:
you have to click directly on the feathers head wings and feet if you click anywhere else you will get that. It works fine on my laptop and my phone

...fighting ninjas at night, talkin' about this and that.