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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] uL7iMa:
stop kidding yourself guys! there's no way the nexus has the better camera

in all the daylight pics, the SII is sharper, more realistic in colour, and much more like a real digicam...the nexus doesn't seem to be able to focus, the edges in the images are mainly quite blurry (could be a result of the quick shutter)

that aside, it does do much better at taking night shots!

Thanks OP for the comparison shots!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdaman85:
I completely agree that the colours on the SII look better, but the thing is, it looks better than real life. It's vibrant but too vibrant compared to the subject as it was at the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ChronoReverse:
Looks like the classic "oversaturated colors" problem when doing comparisons is rearing its head in this thread.

That is, inaccurate but oversaturated colors looks better compared to a more accurate color image.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdaman85:
You're welcome mate.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fdm1:
What about the picture of text that the sII is completely blurry?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] han.azuki:
tbh i dun really care about a camera. its all bout aesthetics of phone and ics
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xdaman85:
The SII struggles a bit with close up shots.

Will cover all that in the full review very soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Spybreak:
I get the feeling that some of the "low quality" from the Galaxy Nexus comes from the JPEG compression. Most images are about 1,9mb in size and while that's not too bad I bet they'd look a bit better if the compression was lower.

Some of the GS2 pics are more than 3mb in size and even accounting for the physical size difference (due to 8mp vs 5mp), it also means that jpeg compression on the GS2 is lower.

Either way I'm relieved that the Nexus' camera isn't as bad as I feared and holds up pretty well compared to the rest.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vash63:
You guys are crazy, the only pics that look better than on the S2 are the ones with the flash. Every other picture looks better on the Nexus IMO. Look at the ones with the fruits or the one with the bright car... they look ridiculous on the GS2, much more realistic and good on the Nexus.

If anything this post made me much happier about the camera.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] schriss:
Same here :-) Sony Nex + Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] farfromovin:
IMO the GS2 wins in daylight (although maybe a bit much contrast) and the Nexus wins in low light and macro. Either way, all superphones today have good phone pics. IMO, phones can take keeper photos for sure, but bust out the DSLR on that vacation trip.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cleargrey:
Just a quick comment from someone that is a photographer, in general the colour issue is really mainly a software tweak and not a sign of a good or bad camera (unless the colours are fubar!). Even on the expensive dSLRs, the colours are good to one person and not to another. But the real quality is in sharpness which is first a hardware thing and second a software tweak. This is why so many thought the iPhone 4 camera was so good - saturated colours and software sharpening and noise reduction giving a pleasing "pop" look.

The other thing that always amuses me, again from the point of a photographer, is that I know for a fact that most images go online to a general max of 1500-by-1500px. And you only need a low MP camera for that. I have printed images from 5x7" to meters long and need the high MP and high ppi that I can process from them. But for a snapshot camera? I really wish that someone would make a 5MP phone shooter with large pixel pitch (distance between the center of each microlens) but minimal space between each microlens. It will merge with the lag free ICS Nexus camera and will take brilliant shots in any situation. At a resolution perfect for 5x7 and web posting.

Oh, and if you really want to do a comparison, you really need to mount the cameras on a table or rig to remove handheld errors. But even so, the shots posted show that, for me (who has a high MP dSLR) the Nexus will be absolutely fine.

Thanks OP!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Elenkis:
Most of the Nexus shots look very soft and lacking in details to me when compared to the GSII ones (aside from the macro shots which the GSII can't seem to focus in). I personally find the GSII colours a bit over saturated for my tastes, but open for example the fruit or postbox pictures and compare the details. The indoor shot with the PS3 is easy to see the difference too. The Nexus shots are often very soft looking, with blurry edges and unclear details.

I'm not a photographer though, so I don't know how much is down to software.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bradsh1:
looks like the GN really struggles with contrast, as most previous-gen camera modules do. It's probably the best 5MP camera i've seen short of iphone 4, but it still pales in comparison to GS2. blown colors or not, the nexus shots all have that disgusting overriding "grey" quality to them that cell phone cameras with miserable contrast have.

it's not terrible, but it's certainly not great.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kristovaher:
Galaxy Nexus seems to have a better camera. The colors are more 'blue' on Galaxy Nexus in majority of outdoor shots because of white-balancing (this is not a flaw of the camera, but camera settings). But you can see Nexus being a better camera the moment lighting conditions become less than good, such as indoors or in darker areas.

Consider me impressed.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Elenkis:
I don't understand how anyone can think the indoor shots of the Nexus look better, the objects in them seem barely in focus. Open the indoor shots from both cameras up and have them side by side, compare the text and the details of the objects. In the headset shot it looks more like the Nexus is focusing on the table instead of the objects on the table.

Ignoring the colors of both, it's like the Nexus shots have a persistent softness, though it's more noticeable in some of the shots than others.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MysteriousDiary:
I totally agree. To me the pictures of the GN looks way more neutral which is always a better base to start with. Add after the shot a bit of contrast and saturation and it might look better than the GII ones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] haydonxda:
Looks like the GN has more accurate colors. It's also appears to be less sharpened which is good. The S2 seems to have the edge in capturing detail but that might be focusing issues.

It's possible that the zero lag shutter is hurting the GN here. The camera might be moving due to the pressure on the "shutter button". But I don't see any indication of shake along one axis which is more like what I'd expect.

The GN has far better lens flare so probably has better optics overall.

The GS2 looks to have a slight edge in dynamic range. (Would have expected the opposite.)

Night photos are night and day. The GN probably has the best low light performance in a phone.

I'd say there's no clear winner here. Especially if Google can improve focus a bit.

Big sensors and lenses are safe for another few years at least. Point and shoots have a much shorter life.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] purplecrayons:
Totally agree. Forget the colors, the Galaxy Nexus shows considerably less detail, enough so that it's nuts anyone would argue otherwise. It's not just a sharpness setting, it looks like the lens might just be a bit worse quality. I'm still buying the GN but I won't lie to myself with technical camera jargon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shenye:
Check these: http://imgur.com/a/HQa7J
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Baguett:
I think that if you zoom on the pics then the GS2 is much better. (of course because it has more than only 4 mpx)

In light enviroments the GS2 also is best in my opinion, but in dark enviroments th Nexus wins.

I'd hoped that the Nexus would have be a winner in both the zoom and light enviroments since it's like 6-10(?) months newer than the GS2, but i was wrong.

Well, i still gonna buy this phone, not for the specs cuz they are not blasting great, but for the ICS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jmbillings:
Interesting. I'd say the Nexus pictures there look worse due to the JPG compression rather than poor optics. Anyone else thinks so?

That could be altered in software easily enough.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tom Servo:
The S2 negates the megapixel advantage by their noise filtering. Hell, it seems they're antialiasing their Bayer filter.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NexusDro:
Glad to know that the camera of the Nexus is not so bad!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] paul_one:
No, the greyness is our lovely UK London environment : ).

.... I've got a running joke that London hates me and now it's gone as far as altering pictures!

IMO, from the shots taken I am split 50/50. The ambulance looked silly in the SGS2, while the fruit looked much better and vibrant. IMO, GN does very well overall, while SGS2 has a couple of very nasty on the eyes shots due to over-contrast (letterbox is off-colour in SGS2 picture, the sign/tree's picture, etc) and of course I verbally "wow"ed at the night shots, which I was surprised by.

What do people think of comparing different sizes / MP depth? Is it valid to test a full 8MP pic against a 5MP pic? And if so, does the argument "you see more detail in the 8MP pic than the 5MP pic" become moot and thus pointless?

Surely the "better picture" is one of this triangle gradients between several key features, and I'd say the Nexus is closer to the centre than the SGS2.

Overall, as the photographer said earlier on, the phone pics are mostly for quick snaps and internet posts.. People who want high-quality photo's should get a proper camera with optical zoom instead of digital (and the limited focusing a phone can do).
[Windows Phone 7 General] HenryTheX:
If Microsoft was smart enough, would it be GREAT to use 16:9 size as the original device specification screen standard?

When I say 16:9, I mean 480*854 instead of 480*800.

I'm not talkin abt high res scr, like 720p or so.

I'm talking about scr ratio.

Guys what du think?

As I c, all the Metro UI on Windows Phone 7.5 is using vertical display MUCH MORE than horizontal display.

Luk at the start screen, the row4 tiles bottom r being cut out... guys do u think 6 tiles is enough to display essential info? What if u hav 10 tiles?? on the first glance!!!! w/o scrolling, man!!!

Luk at the applist, no horizontal arrangement, which means it's amazing to have the extra 54 pixels?! wud it be more elegent?

luk at Office Hub and People Hub, I hav totally no idea Y Microsoft cancel the plan of general use of hardware Search Button, it's fine, cuz it's make no confusion to users any longer, on the matter "when can users use search", but the problem is, it took the VALUABLE vertical space!! Damned!!

If u guys compare WP7 & WP7.5, u will c how pathetic Microsoft Designer is trying to ruin a Perfect Design!

The UI was once like dis, but guys luk at your People Hub today, on Mango, I can hardly c the second contact!! Is dis studpid??

Correct me if I'm wrong.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Shorthand on a tech blog is stupid. Please attempt something closer to English. I'm no grammar nazi, but talking technical using "lyk" and "wud" is stupid.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dtboos:
And the English Language wept.
[Windows Phone 7 General] kapanak:
The 5:3 aspect ratio could be preserved for future specification bumps. A 1280 X 768 4+ inch (diagonal) display is not impossible.
[Windows Phone 7 General] day2die:
I am going to guess that this is because most phones during Windows Phone development uses WVGA. FWVGA hasn't been use much in mobile phones until recently.

One of the most interesting thing to watch for in the future is how Windows Phone will deal with different resolution and whether it will maintain the same aspect ratio.
[Windows Phone 7 General] walthur:
Well, I think the screen is fine, they should just tighten up the interface a litte.

i.e. the headers/tabs on pivot and panorama pages take up too much space.

the people hub for example, in the contact list I have a huge piece of text "people" on top, plus the letter category thing.

This would be just fine if they disappeared when I scroll down, but they stay glued to the top, wasting 1/3 of the screen with useless information.

If I really need to be reminded that I'm in the people hub, a tiny label at the very top would more than do the job.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arkavat:
Thanks for saving on the letters by using shorthand. I am running out of pixels on my laptop. That reminds me! I need to stop by BestBuy tomorrow morning and buy some more pixels!
[Windows Phone 7 General] prohibido_por_la_ley:
the contacts arent visible in mango because mango added groups to the people hub, not because MS wants to ruin the design
[HTC Desire S] xXthelordXx03:
hey

after i downgraded from hboot 2 to hboot 0.98.0000 i cant get s-offed by revolutionary it stucks on waiting for fastboot and i waited for like 20 min and nothing happens after that .....

please help i wanna get s-offed again
[HTC Desire S] anonymous_1997:
Do you have the appropriate fastboot drivers installed
[HTC Desire S] xXthelordXx03:
yes i have everything installed 100%
[HTC Desire S] xXthelordXx03:
i downgraded from this thread [GUIDE] Official HBOOT 2.00.0002 Downgrade to OLD HBOOT
[HTC Desire S] anonymous_1997:
is it stuck after it says if life gives you lemons make life give the lemons back...

because i had a simliar problem where it got stuck at rebooting fast boot after it said waiting for fastboot

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i used this method too... did you check md5 sums

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do you have the message **re-locked** on the top of your hboot in your bootloader
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ripplecm:
How is there no alpha yet for the nexus s/nexus s 4g? It seems like everyone's getting it before us. The evo 4g just got it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brrip:
page one of the general section is FILLED with threads about ics. did you even check those before posting this?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iGoogleNexus:
I believe we are ahead of them... they may have thing's that aren't working and all we need on our side is the camera to work... atleast that's all koush needs =]

-Google
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Braneless:
Uh wut? Nexus ICS alphas have been floating around for weeks.

The evo is always going to have more roms available at any given time, since there's a ton of devs working on that phone... And more options because of Sense.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsteven77x:
First of all the things we have are sdk ports so they don't count. Second I would rather have a rom with half busted stuff than nothing like we do now. Wahh it sucks.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rem3Dy:
Why haven't you released it? Oh that's right you don't know how. Just be patient and wait for one to come.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Braneless:
The evo ics rom is from sdk.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsteven77x:
Oh. So does the s2 have a real one? If not then actually no one has it yet and I feel alot better ;-)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike.b93:
I don't think that someone has a decent working ICS right now.

But come on, don't start a ton of new threads just to aks why there's no ics. I know it's exciting but after all it's just ICS xD

And it's just a max. of 1 month waiting time 'till the ota gets out. I would go so far to say that no one of us will die from waiting :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsteven77x:
Max one month is a huge overstatement. It will be a miracle on xda street if we get an ota in a month. Mark my words.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Braneless:
I don't know. I just went over to the Evo forum to see what was going on, and they were struggling just to get the sdk port to work.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gavingreystone@gmail.com:
Www.multiupload.com/F0F156G363

ICS Build from source. May not be perfect but something to flash. Think primarily for I9020T, use at own risk. Don't know if someones shared this already but sorry if someone did.

From Kwiboo's thread. His rom.

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JaylanPHNX:
When I got my GS2, I gave my MT4G to my wife. She was using CM7, so I put that on the phone. It was giving her problems (one of which I'll get to) so I switched to Royal Ginger. That worked better except for still no wifi. I turn wifi on and the icon never shows up top. Looking under wifi settings, it never scans for any networks and after about thirty seconds, says turning off and the check mark goes away. Any suggestions? Fix permissions, reboots, battery pulls don't work.

Sent from my beastly Galaxy S 2.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Ya best thing would be to get away from that rom. I would suggest doing a full wipe and then have head over to cm 7.1. It is really stable and she will be quite pleased with it
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JaylanPHNX:
This problem existed on CM7 as well.

Sent from my beastly Galaxy S 2.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darinmc:
format system, cache, boot, data, sdcard? Sounds like a rogue piece from a sense ROM corrupting wifi.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JaylanPHNX:
Could be. I'll try a reflash this afternoon.

Sent from my beastly Galaxy S 2.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UZR10278:
Woke up this morning and now I'm having this same problem. Did re-flashing work?

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Everytime I reboot it says Process system not responding. Any suggestion guys? Ive fixed permissions, reboot and battery pull and still nothing. I'm lost, don't know what else to do. Please help.:confused:
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
What kernel are you using?
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UZR10278:
Im using 2.6.35.14 glacier-demonspeed v10.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UZR10278:
I also noticed that Rom manager, T.B. and Root Explore r not working. :mad:
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JaylanPHNX:
Reflash seems to have worked. Wifi is running.

Sent from my beastly Galaxy S 2.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Archangel:
Can you hard boot into recovery?

If I helped give thanks(via the button :) )

From my fist to your face, enjoy!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UZR10278:
Yeah, I reflashed and everything was working fine for a minute. Once all my apps were back and I updated them It happened again. So I just flashed Faux Nexus rom and eveything is back to normal. I still don't understand what's the problem. I would really like to be back on CM7. :confused:
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Archangel:
Which version of cm7 were you using.

If I helped give thanks(via the button :) )

From my fist to your face, enjoy!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark manning:
Sounds like its in one of the apps. Let Google restore your apps and you should be fine

Sent from my Google Nexus 12... yep I'm from the future where Apple is no more!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UZR10278:
I was on CM7.1 stable.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UZR10278:
Yeah man thats what I always do. I let Google restore my apps. I don't get it everything was working fine.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Archangel:
That's very weird,I'm running that also(kinda). Never had that happen to me. Maybe its a random bug that happened. Was your superuser up to date also, just curious? Did you download any apps outside of the market?

If I helped give thanks(via the button :) )

From my fist to your face, enjoy!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
If you are running the bfs version of that kernel you will most likely have random issues with wifi. Its pretty unstable imho.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UZR10278:
Yeah my superuer is up to date man. Weird huh, it must be a random bug i guess. Or a app I downloaded. I dont recall downloading any app that's not off the market, but now that I remember I did download this stupid finger print lockscreen type app the night before everything went to ****. Must be that app, but I flashed Faux Cm/Nexus Rom and it's working fine with this app. I will uninstall it and reflash Cm7.1 and see if it works. Even though Faux Cm/Nexus Rom is great, I sure am missing Cm7. LOL! I'll reflash Cm7 in a few days and see if it works again. Thanks for everything guys. :D
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Archangel:
Sometime rogue apps can do weird stuff, glad to see you got or working again. Hopefully cm7.1 works for ya.

If I helped give thanks(via the button :) )

From my fist to your face, enjoy!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rhys..:
Hi,

My Galaxy S keeps freezing on me :(. It usually only happens when i open something like Fruit Ninja, Or try to unlock the phone to quick. Then it just reboots itself after about 10 seconds. Just wondering whether it is my Rom & Kernel or something wrong with the phone itself.

Im Using Semaphore JVT 1.8.0

I9000XXJVT

Thanks for the help :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarknessWarrior:
i have XXJVT with CF-Root 4.3 and i have no problems
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gsw5700:
I use stock jvt with semaphore 1.8.2bm with lots of tweaks and it is rock solid, you may have a dodgy app, you can try flashing 1.8.2 and try to find dodgy app, if you have titanium backup, freeze 1 app at at time until you find app causing the problem

Sent using TCP/IP
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rhys..:
Yeah i tried that this morning. Found out i had the CPU at 1300 Mhz so i put it back down to 1000 and it hasent frozen at all yet, Also Re-flashed Kernel and Rom and no issues.

I thought it was going to be a hardware problem as it started the day i dropped it last week, Anyway hasent frozen yet.

Thanks guys
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EvoCM7fTw420:
Ok so my younger cousin just bought an EVO from a friend at school and it is running on boost but it is Unrooted and S-On how the hell can I get this thing back on Sprint any help even a link is extremely helpful and greatly appreciated thanks in advance for any help :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alnova1:
Thanks J. Edgar...:rolleyes:
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalfan78:
I'm glad he informed us about the law and the FCC. I'm going to unroot my phone now. I had no idea I was doin something I shouldn't. Thank you so much!

We're comin from a pure power source.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottypeterson:
I don't think being rooted is illegal. From what I heard it used to be illegal though and a couple of months ago I went into a sprint store and the manager of the store had a rooted EVO 4G with a custom rom lol was kind of funny.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metalfan78:
Yea my sarcasm doesn't really come through in my typing

We're comin from a pure power source.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottypeterson:
Haha

Sent from my rooted EVO 4G with Sense 3.0 and running a v6 Supercharger

Hit that thanks button if I helped.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] {ParanoiA}:
Hmmm...could be tricky. Since its s-on you could try running a ruu but Idk if that will fix it. Getting a phone to run on boost requires rewriting the nv memory which I'm not sure a ruu restore can do. Correct me if I'm wrong. Unless whoever rewrote the NV has the original values backed up, you maybe sol.

Sent From My Pocket
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tszkin622:
is that possible to downgrade from ice cream sandwich? :confused:

i updated yesterday, and it is not really useful as before with many bugs.:(

i wanna change back to 2.3.X ..
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amehdi43:
what do you mean you upgraded?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iGoogleNexus:
Upgrade as in flash a rom created by beezys?

Just go into recovery and do a restore

-Google
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tszkin622:
problem solved...

i downgraded it to 2.3.4 and get back to 2.3.6....