yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Android Development] niksy+:
Mate, we've already got it all - 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3. Check out CM10, CM10.1 and CM10.2, for example. There are more Jelly Bean ROMs out there, browse the forums a bit :silly:
[Defy Android Development] K3n H1mur4:
I think you've mistaken a new Android version for the updates provided on the official channels. We obviously need some files (like some drivers and etc) which are the same as the ones used in 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 (because there aren't newer versions of them), but we do have Android 4.x in our phones, with full (or nearly full) functionality. As far as I know, all the goodies introduced in ICS are here on CM9, the same for CM10. For 10.1+, we have a few limitations: photo sphere, i.e., will never work, because the Defy has no gyroscope (needed for PS to work properly), but any device without gyroscope which has official 4.2 (if there are any) also won't be able to produce photo spheres either. Some other limitations go to the lack of up-to-date drivers, or because our devices don't have (officially) a 3.x kernel. But, as much as hardware and software (including the ones created by our always hardworking devs, like Quarx, Blechd0se and many others, without any help from Motorola - like the new WiFi drivers used in most of 4.1+ ROMs around here) allow, we do have 4.x on our devices. I'm not quite sure KitKat will be available because the Defy is kinda old now (almost on its 3rd birthday party), and many devs prefer to focus their work on devices with better official support and newer ones with hardware able to handle all the new features being introduced by each version, but we can always have hope.

You can be sure Motorola won't provide any new updates to your Defy, but the independent devs community will give you some support while they can.

Sent using XDA for Android
[Defy Android Development] rekcah_ogami:
Thanks for the reply. I understand that even though I really don't want to let go of my Defy - since I believe I'm one of the few who had this since it's launch - it will be topped off by some new phone with better hardware.

I was just concerned about apps that need 4.X to work. Like this one --- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1282900

I'm actually okay with the ROM that I'm using, (CM7.2.0-RC0-Defy-KANG) but of course, if it so happens that I need to update it just for the sake of using 4.X apps, then I'm willing to give it a shot.
[Defy Android Development] dacecar:
Hello [MENTION=382340]walter79[/MENTION]

I took some time using your cm9.1 rom and it works really well

have you thought of doing any update?

greetings and thanks in advance
[Defy Android Development] prashob131:
I need a Rom with good battery backup...which one should i choose cm9.1 or cm 10 ? or any other ? someone please reply...

Currently on whiteRabbit getting good battery backup but some apps needs ICS+ :(
[Defy Android Development] hotdog125:
CM10 gives good battery life too.
[Defy Android Development] Da Avenger:
Asphalt 7 not working :/

When i start Asphalt 7,its just stuck at the loading screen,doesn't move forward :(

Is there some i can do to make it work?

:confused: :confused:

Battery life is pretty good for me (defy+ with 1650 mah battery) on this ROM compared to CM10 after i applied battery fix by walter. :good:
[Defy Android Development] Hasuris:
Batterylife is decent. Just don't let your phone forceshutdown with low battery, it won't charge again. It's a bug of walters Kernel, that is already fixed in ms2ginger.
[Defy Android Development] prashob131:
I have read all the pages in this thread from last november and it looks like there is another cm 9 build by walter named CM-9.1.0-jordan-UNOFFICIAL-2013-5-24 of walter79 whats the difference between walters and Epslon's? now i am really confused :confused: , not much detail about walters build in this thread.

so walters battery fix is needed for Epsylons CM9.1 ?

which cm9 have this battery problem,, Epsylons or walters? , I have defy plus so which build should i install?
[Defy Android Development] sUpErwHoO:
hey guys, i have a doubt! does the defy have an arm 7 or arm 8??

because in the quadrant test it says i have an arm 7 :S i'm confused!

(sorry for going off topic)
[Defy Android Development] Shubhamqweasd:
HMM, I think. , its Arm7, and cortex a8 series, ..'
[Defy Android Development] iammodo:
yeps sounds right.
[Defy Android Development] blackwing182:
OMG! the tags are Hilarious xD and more cuz says chuck norris :) lol
[Defy Android Development] coolzarjun:
Waited all night from the latest built *sigh* :/
[Defy Android Development] [] AL []:
I just added a warning... :p
[Defy Android Development] crlx1906:
I don't like the orientation. But its good just wish it would auto turn.
[Defy Android Development] blackwing182:
warning: too much ics causes brain freeze

DR. your diagnostic is PROOF OF CONCEPT xD it is super real! im suffering it right now ! lol
[Defy Android Development] hailmary:
talking about brain freeze,im eating ice cream right now,while waiting for the nuclear 6th:p
[Defy Android Development] Shubhamqweasd:
MANY people very eagrly w8ing for some sort of status update for the work progress !:P

BTW any1 tried clock app , clock in ICS rox :D

if you press and hold it , background will turn dim , and clock will turn blue...
[Defy Android Development] byeyoubpn:
Excuse me are u from Indonesia??? Salam kenal, can u help us to make a ICS ROM for LG optimus me??? this is the link and source code link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1360791&page=9

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1293188

https://github.com/drapalyuk

I hope u can help us, because untill now, not yet any one can build this rom ICS, even CM7 rom who almost done, it become left by who developed that rom (drapalyuk) for Optimus ME, I hope U can continued... I Appreciated that kind of effort...thanks :)

From Indonesia
[Defy Android Development] blackwing182:
lol i eat my girlfriend xD and eat a real ice cram sandwich =P

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jejeje that pics are form une of the users from indonesia i think! and @epsylon3 is french i think xD qurax is russian :)
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
no no no..

i take those screenshots,

but definitely i ain't the dev at all :D

the devs are: Epsylon3, Quarx, maniac103

the are awesome geniuses which have briliant mind to bring GB and ICS to Defy.. :D

skrinsutnya diambil dari ane gan, hehe..

tapi developernya tuh orang perancis namanya Epsylon3 dan Quarx orang rusia.

mungkin dia bisa membantu, dia sebelumnya developer untuk CM7 Defy.

greeting from kaskus..

Does LG Optimus Me could run GB / CM7 rom?

If it does, maybe there's still a chance to taste ICS on your device..
[Defy Android Development] Sivaguru:
I saw something new(May be new to me..) in the settings-->Display-->Android Dreams-->Selected dream & then 4 options showed up

1) Rocket launcher

2) Nyandroid

3) Slideshow

4) Clock
[Defy Android Development] [] AL []:
Those are simply screen savers; nothing to rave about reallly...
[Defy Android Development] Normano64:
I love it, work pretty good but some minor and bigger problems.
[Defy Android Development] crazyjosi:
for those who want to know something about battery life... i can only tell you it's great with ics! after 1day and 2 houres usage i have 90 % in ics, after reboot into miui i have 86%.. of course during this time i only had some phone calls and text messages.
[Defy Android Development] shamo42:
Same here. I'm at 39 hours and still have 70% battery life. Wifi is always on.
[Defy Android Development] matchung:
its not true in my case. on cm7, it takes about 4% in 6 hrs standby (just display off/not airflight). but on cm9, it takes 10%
[Defy Android Development] Matzemink:
I guess one reason is that GSM Data isn't working yet. When you disable GSM Data on other ROM's, battery lasts several days ;)
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
my build have a charging problem if your defy has 0% battery. It is not a kernel bug. It is a 2nd-boot problem. You can easy fix it if you replace all files in 2nd-boot folder but keep ramdisk. Use the files from msginger 5.0a
[Defy Android Development] Hasuris:
Tried this, now my defy is stuck at boot with motorolalogo and no LED. Have to flash a backup :-/
[Defy Android Development] prashob131:
Installed Epsylons cm 9.1 in my defy+ working really good after replacing laggy default launcher with Apex Launcher. But battery is stuck at 79% , Is there a fix ?
[Defy Android Development] hotdog125:
There is a battery fix on Quarx's CM9 thread. Flash it.
[Defy Android Development] prashob131:
But its for Red lens defy , right?
[Defy Android Development] hotdog125:
It is, but it worked for me.
[Defy Android Development] gordonbennet:
Sorry to be a noob but does anyone have a mirror to OP's ROM? Better yet, I wonder if Epsylon is close to finishing his ICS rom with soft unlock and battery fix ;)
[Defy Android Development] prashob131:
I am on cm9.1 (Epsylon's) for last one week or so, not as fast as cm7 but perfectly stable, somehow i get more battery backup from ICS than from GB roms :good:

My battery problem went away after flashing defy+ battery fix, other fixes didn't workout.
[Defy Android Development] SandeepRoy:
SD card access problem on PC

Does this battery fix also solve SD card detection too ?

I'm having trouble with SD card access when connected to the PC via USB.

The phone charges via USB, the SD card shows up as a USB device but i can't open it.

So just to test my drivers, I reverted back to CM7 and it works okay.

Any ideas or links ?

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[MENTION=4854448]hotdog125[/MENTION] I'm having trouble with SD card access via USB, see previous.
[Defy Android Development] hotdog125:
Pull down the notification bar and use Mass Storage mode.
[Defy Android Development] SandeepRoy:
Sorry, That does not work.
[Defy Android Development] Tumelar:
Does "9.1" mean that it is stable and everything works perfectly?

Wysłane z mojego Nexus 4 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Defy Android Development] Nemado:
Unfortunately it is not 100% stable. After a few weeks it became laggy and less stable. The most stable at the moment, in my humble opinion, are 7.2 and 4.1.2 (though I still experience the occasional freeze with specific apps on 4.1.2, however many apps requires ICS or later to run).
[Defy Android Development] @LEzhka:
File is not available for download. Download again.
[Defy Android Development] DragonautMk:
Link is offline :(
[Defy Android Development] mick711:
Link is offline it's i think possible to compile with Epsylon Github if all stuff is present ?
[Defy Android Development] sykoism:
Great job EP3 :-D

Perhaps this can be used for testing kernel and modules for defy before cm9 is released :-P
[Defy Android Development] iammodo:
Found this someone showing how they got their touch screen to work.

Might be something in there that make it click for you.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1328515
[Defy Android Development] YahsCE:
I hope thay Epsylon will get the work done :D he must receive donates! :D
[Defy Android Development] cocus:
Hey, just a question. The kernel, its a custom, or stock one? I mean, if its a custom one, how youre making it work? Via bootmenu? Thanks. Great Work
[Defy Android Development] Cocolopes:
The bootloader its lock so...no custom kernel...I think its a defy+ 2.3 kernel...but only the great dev we have knows that...

under water
[Defy Android Development] Epsylon3:
Ive made some progress on the touchscreen, but its like "not calibrated" and almost unusable yet ^^
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
Is it maybe mirrored?
[Defy Android Development] blackwing182:
looks like a big progrees! and looks like a honeycomb sdk lol! i hope this get better!

thanx abd keep up the hard work!

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afaik, its posible to emulate a custom kernel with the bootmenu , it just only that the defy doesent have the kernel source to build!
[Defy Android Development] zyxwvut:
I'm getting excited already! Premature I know, but I have much faith in the dev's......RESPECT!
[Defy Android Development] Cocolopes:
So...we can use custom kernels on ICS?

under water
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
Iff we get defy's kernel source...
[Defy Android Development] maniac103:
It's the other way around: We have the sources, but we can't build a custom kernel because we don't have Motorola's signing key.
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
Oh !!

I hate u motorola!!!!

Just one freaking key!!! Boooooooooooooooo
[Defy Android Development] blackwing182:
the signing key is for sbf i think! we need ARMcompiler and defconfig menu and make menuconfig, but! there is mising files i think!
[Defy Android Development] m11kkaa:
Please don't discuss bootloader/kernel-things here.

That's an old topic already discussed several times.

To clear up:

We have the kernel-source and maybe we can build.

But that doesn't matter because the boot- and recover-images(which contains the kernel) are signed with motorola's private key.

You can dump the boot-image, extract the ramdisk, and then repack the whole thing. The boot will fail with an error-code because the signature will not match.

The bootmenu is not able to boot custom kernels. The "2nd-boot"-feature is just a stub and does the same like 2nd-init.

The reason why bootmenu can't boot a kernel is because it injects the system AFTER kernel is booted and BEFORE android-system is initialized.

You cannot switch to another kernel at runtime.

I hope the discussion on the kernel ends now or will be transfered in another topic...
[Defy Android Development] overclockthesun:
great news! guys
[Defy Android Development] sykoism:
But still, I would like to ask which kernel does EP3 use to build this rom.
[Defy Android Development] blackwing182:
wierd, cuz form the start, i installed 2init to my phone and i always flashed cm7, on top of froyo 2.2.1 from t mobile usa, i flashed miui and my kernel changed to the gingerbread one! so what i do wrong! or it just a miracle! O_o
[Defy Android Development] psicodelico:
Believe, your kernel always was one signed by moto.
[Defy Android Development] m11kkaa:
It's possible to flash a kernel via update.zip but only a signed one.

CM7 does this. You can see this if you open the archive. There will be a boot.img.
[Defy Android Development] powertony84:
We waiting for next surprise!!!! :-)
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
@matchung

sorry...offtopic. are those (download/upload) speeds real? if so what kind of plan do you have (speeds and cost)
[Defy Android Development] XianHuen:
OFF: http://www.pccw.com/Consumer/Broadband+Services/PCCW+1000MPlus?language=en_US
[Defy Android Development] brajesh.sharma87:
I think they will release with many other bugs fixed like mobile data, rotation sensor and 3D. Take ur time guys. :-)

Sent from my Moto Defy
[Defy Android Development] madhuranand007:
Please change little bit in TODO LIST (by priority): IF POSSIBLE

Fix Launcher in portrait mode... (force close related to keyboard)

Fix GSM Data

Fix 3D (galery, opengl etc...)

Fix Google maps <----Least priority.

Fix Google maps, no errors but no layer drawed <----Least priority.
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
OpenGL works but sometimes artefacts appear. Is the display driver final?
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
Considering *anything* final at this stage is premature to say the least.
[Defy Android Development] iammodo:
I'm happy with "premature" ;)
[Defy Android Development] salim_belka2002:
Yes take ur time guys. :-)
[Defy Android Development] shamo42:
For me WiFi seems pretty stable already though. The connection is instant, reliable and with only little battery drain. So far WiFi is better than on any CM7 ROM I've tried.
[Defy Android Development] Quarx:
With Defy+ kernel we got 3d fully works, but 2D on this kernel is buggy(random crashes of 2d applications)
[Defy Android Development] crazyjosi:
n1, but I'm more interrested in a data fix instead of 3D ... I prefer to playing on my tablet :D

anyway nice work guys!
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
[Defy Android Development] gadgetcraze:
Is there an option for setting static ip in wifi?
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
Yes, select advanced settings option while setting up the network.
[Defy Android Development] gubshi:
Arrg, I was hoping you guys wouldn't run in such kernel related problems. Damn you, Motorola!

By the way, a little off-topic, but still related: I read some time ago that they considered opening the bootloader at the end of this year. would be perfect timing. was this a hoax or got denied, or is it about to happen?
[Defy Android Development] crazy4tricks:
well I think it was rumor, coz as per news motorola supposed to unlock bootloader in Q3 and now its an end of Q4 but still no news.
[Defy Android Development] AkkiandDefy:
They only unlock the bootloader for those, which will get an update this year, so Milestone 2, Droid Razr and Droid Bionic
[Defy Android Development] crazy4tricks:
motorola is damn.. s##k, but atleast they can allow us to do so.? we have got super dev. with us. Anyways we have to keep our fingers Cross.
[Defy Android Development] djkail:
You forgot DEFY+!! :D:D:D
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
There is a new Defy+ rom with new bootloader new kernel. Kernel did not work on "old" defys via fixed-sbf method. Maybe some can flash the full sbf and check if the bootloader can unlocked.

BOOTLOADER is now Version 6

Link to rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1375701
[Defy Android Development] AkkiandDefy:
No, I didn't. Defy+ won't get an update.
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
They released a update. Check my last post.
[Defy Android Development] AkkiandDefy:
Yeah, but when will Motorola release it official???

We had Froyo since January, but they released it in June......

Lazy Moto :p
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
This is official update from Motorola. Downloaded via MSU.
[Defy Android Development] slivabox:
does it have unlocked boot?
[Defy Android Development] walter79:
I don`t know. It has new bootloader. But i will not test unlock.
[Defy Android Development] slivabox:
Did you try new loader with defy not defy+ is it suitable?
[Defy Android Development] grannyrogers:
Walter79 needs someone to flash the new full sbf and see if the new bootloader( version 6) is unlocked. I don't know anything about these kind of things. Who wants to volunteer?
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
thanks!

10 char
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
How about we set a bounty for the Motorola kernel signing key? Maybe like 5 grand. I'm sure there are some really talented hackers out there. Lol.
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
I don't think is that easy...
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
dear epsylon! thank you so much for your hard work! could you please post the link to the github commit history in the first post, so it would be easier to find? :)
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
Of course it's not easy.
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
Please ignore this post. Duplicate.
[Defy Android Development] alfchin:
MANY Chinese people have flashed that ROM,which BL=6.

Nobody had reported that the BL has been unlocked
[Defy Android Development] zjfgavin:
not many,the rom is very new,let me ask,i have no defy+;)
[Defy Android Development] Shubhamqweasd:
Do anyone of you noticed that, at lockscreen , we can pull down notification bar .lol

if this is a bug, let it be like this :p,,...
[Defy Android Development] zjfgavin:
no,this is not a bug,it's a new feature of ICS;)
[Defy Android Development] sUpErwHoO:
um might sound dumb but if we flash this sbf and then load ics will 720p work? :O

and there are so many guides like this online, so wont this or a methods like this work on the defy?
[Defy Android Development] brajesh.sharma87:
hi epsylon3/Quarx, my friend apollo5801 is working on ICS port for galaxy 3 which is a very low end device. He has managed the mobile data working. He said, he has added permission in init.c and replaced toolbox route command with busybox to make the mobile data work. Not sure u can do it the same way for our defy.
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
Sounds like it can be done from terminal emulater. Right?
[Defy Android Development] Shubhamqweasd:
SO if DEFY+ kernel is used on defy , then 3D , opengl is working ???

,then what is the point in using defy kernel , why not jump to defy+ instead ??
[Defy Android Development] dlcookie:
What bootloop are we taking of here ?? and thanks for the good work , really appreciate the efforts

Bootloader , i think we will be stuck with locked version from Moto untill devs from xda work-up their magic to unlock one day
[Defy Android Development] brajesh.sharma87:
I waited last 3 days for the next build. I was very excited but this new build did not bring anything better except for the launcher. My main concern now is mobile data.

anyways, i will wait again for the next build patiently. I do understand how hard this things is. Gud luck.
[Defy Android Development] Epsylon3:
thanks for the report... but i cant test that yet, the phone line is broken :p

But it's maybe fixable by the properties...

Hmm yea, Defy+ OpenGL have some of the missing OpenGL ES extensions used almost everywhere in new ICS apps.

But.... we will do defy+ builds (maybe Quarx will do that) but... that means also no return to CM7 without a boot/devtree backup, its why its not made actually, to prevent problems with new users...

Also... we will maybe move to a new repo system named MotoMagic, based on AOSP and made for all the moto devices (since Droid2)
[Defy Android Development] Shubhamqweasd:
so , now , this means that , defy's old kernel cannot fully support openGL drivers made for ICS apps , if so we rely only on defy+ kernel :P

btw u devs do awesome work :D

USB WORKS PERFECTLY NOW ;P

POOR MOTO CANT EVEN UNLOCK A BOOTLOADER FOR US :P
[Defy Android Development] thomsch:
And.. what happend with the defys with green lensed? no camera with ICS? I have a bad feeling
[Defy Android Development] blackwing182:
so old defy doesent work now! or the kernel only? we cant go back to cm7?

any way can we flash defy+ plus in the old defy green or red lense?
[Defy Android Development] Epsylon3:
Yes, i think we will do that, i was also waiting for a real defy+ sbf to publish defy+ kernel based roms...
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
Very odd... I saw the new nightly at home this morning but when I tried to download when i got to work its not there anymore. Has it been removed?

Sent from my superfly Defy
[Defy Android Development] hailmary:
yeah,its not there.maybe eppy has forgotten something.lets wait.
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
Thanks, thought I was losing my mind.

Sent from my superfly Defy
[Defy Android Development] salim_belka2002:
Good job, i steel wait for gsm data!!!!!
[Defy Android Development] dlhxr:
If it were ture, the world would be down...

I regret that I bought a defy with green lense.

Is it possible for us to replace the green lense with the red one?

And the new nightly build is misssing?
[Defy Android Development] zjfgavin:
give you a suggestion...buy a red lense ;)
[Defy Android Development] arpith.fbi:
dont worry devs will find some way of making green lens work as they also have old defy with green lens :)
[Defy Android Development] brajesh.sharma87:
Even if they didnt have green lensed defy, they wud have found a way for green lense users. They are really great.

Sent from my Moto Defy
[Defy Android Development] dlhxr:
If the kernel is the version of 2.3, it is extremely hard to make green lense work except that bootloader is unlocked or moto provides a new kernel for green lense at 2.3(4.0)
[Defy Android Development] qelavidamelleve:
Question guys, camera has issues or it is not working at all?
[Defy Android Development] yangyusen:
good work

good work!!!
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
As per the OP, camera is not working and will take considerable time before it does.
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
Not working at all... yet.

Sent from my superfly Defy