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[Thunderbolt Accessories] worwig:
Yea, the clearing battery stats is a placibo, I'm sure.

It is not what I 'normally' had. Yes, I used to get a 10 to 20 % drop on reboot. Suddenly I was getting a 30 to 40% drop WITHOUT a reboot, it just suddenly dropped, and a LOT more then it had for 5 months.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Noxious Ninja:
The Rezound batteries are supposed to be 45mm wide x 57mm long, right? I bought some third-party batteries off Amazon that claimed they were for the Rezound, but the ones I got were too long to fit in my Thunderbolt. Before I ship them back, I just want to make sure they sent me the wrong ones and that I'm not horribly missing something.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
As far as the length, I can't tell you the value, but I put them side by side when I first got the Rezound. Length-wise, they're are the same (visually). If there's a difference, it's minuscule and obviously won't make a difference. As for thickness, the Rezound is definitely thicker, but not enough the cause a clearance issue with the back cover. You can visually see the difference, which I'd estimate to be about 1mm.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] VigilanteM2:
Quick question, since I finally got myself a Rezound battery for this phone, should I do any special treatment with charging it?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
What I'm doing is NOT charging it overnight anymore, i.e. once it's at 100%, I unplug it. That apparently applies to any battery of this type anyway.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] swolfe2:
I've been using a red Rezound battery in my Bolt for about 8 months now, and I've had zero issues. Ordered it, super cheaply, off of Amazon.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] pakkman:
Sweet! Need to go get one
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Omen87:
I wonder if the Rezound has a way of checking if it has the correct battery installed and will not power up without it's original battery?

Oh FYI, the Rezound standard battery pulls up at $19.99 in my cart at Verizonwireless.com
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
ALL 4G batteries are on sale for 50% off.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Grnlantern79:
I just ordered one online tonight and it was 19.99
[Thunderbolt Accessories] tekonus:
Just checked on the site while logged into my account. I get a 25% discount and it showed up for $29.99 for me after my discount. That was in the cart, and everything.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
One rep told me it's one discount or the other and they don't stack. He did say the 'higher' discount should apply but in your case, it's not. Try again but do NOT login.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Pender1:
So I thought there was a conversation a couple of months ago about not being able to put more power into a battery the same size. Is this battery identical externally or is there a little size difference?

thank you for fixing that, many don't understand the difference.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
I bought (2) Rezound batteries and I believe the Rezound is a tiny, tiny amount thicker. They obviously can't make it wider or taller but there is some clearance available with the battery cover.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] thedefectkid:
Thanks for this just ordered a battery!! Good to know and thanks for letting me know! :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] stayin100:
14 hours of moderate use today, blown away totally. I was lucky to get eight before!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] wherestheboost:
Just ordered...yep - don't log in... 21 and some change - sweeeeeeet.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
Going on 14 hours of normal usage, battery at 27%. Will be off to bed shortly and usually (if I remember) put it in Airplane mode overnight. I want to run it down to 0% and let it shutdown itself and charge to 100% again for a couple cycles to condition it nicely.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hogasswild:
Good to know. My battery is in the mail.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] ponyboy82:
Does anyone know how the Rezound batteries compare to the third-party 1700mah ones?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Bwangster12:
Is there any concern about using one of the 3.8V Rezound batteries in the Thunderbolt? I understand that some people are getting a 3.8V labeled battery and some are getting a 3.7V labeled battery.

I should be getting mine today... do I need to worry about using a 3.8V labeled one in my Thunderbolt or should I just try and exchange it?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] l7777:
No

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19564430&postcount=14
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Bwangster12:
Well, it doesn't look like its a mis-print in voltage on the batteries, as some have shown that the model number on them is different.

But, to your knowledge, it sounds as if the phone only "uses" the voltage it needs? So it being higher is not a big deal, but if it had been like 2.0V, then it wouldn't work?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] gsxraddict:
Just giving some feedback for those who would like to know. I will admit I haven't been on it much but still can't say this is not impressive.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] MrCapcom:
what rom u running
[Thunderbolt Accessories] gsxraddict:
Newest Bamf forever with imo's 5.1.0 kernel.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] MrCapcom:
Weird that its not doing good for u with the extra 220mah plus ur display is like 45% im on Gingeritis wonder if mines is that high up
[Thunderbolt Accessories] gsxraddict:
Wait what? This battery is working extremely well for me.

If you notice in the screen shot it was at 90% still.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
Hehe, yeap, 15 hours and still at 90% !!! Pretty damn good ! I think he mis-read your post...
[Thunderbolt Accessories] MrCapcom:
lol yea I did i thought u was saying the battery wasn't good.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] oraclegustavo:
I went to the local verizon store today and had the guy ring it up and it was $40. This was in Pinellas Park, FL. I tried looking online logged in or not and it still says $29.99. Would buy it for $20 but not $30.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] gsxraddict:
It's not at every store. Just the corporate ones. Do you get a discount on your account? If so you have to do the transaction without it to get the 50% off they won't stack discounts.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Bwangster12:
I'm still confused as to this voltage thing and if using a 3.8V Rezound battery hurts. So, my current stock Thunderbolt battery is charging, current 98% charged and shows 4.203V using "Battery Indicator" from Android Market. I presume I have the 3.7V standard Thunderbolt battery. What does the 3.7V mean if it currently shows 4.203V? Is that just like the maxed out charge and then it'll trickle down to 3.7/3.8 on its own?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] oraclegustavo:
I do have a discount. How would I know whether a store is a corporate store or not?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Str0ntium:
Hell. Even for $40, this is a good deal. This battery is amazing compared to the stock. It's almost as good as my X with the 1850mAH battery. Worth every penny, of the $21.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
Non-corporate stores will have their real name discretely hidden but the main sign has to include something like "an authorized Verizon retailer".

Go to VZW website, locations, plug in zip code. It will list corporate and retailers with the retailers indicated.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Darkestred:
if its anything like most other things. Going up higher in voltage will not hurt the unit since its drawing 3.7. If you undervolt than that is bad.

Question for those who purchased the battery online. I've ordered mine on Saturday. My card was charged on Monday. I have received only a confirmation of purchase email. No tracking. Going to the site and entering my info provides me with an error processing right now. This has been over the span of two days.

How has everyone elses online purchase gone?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] RJSH_1727:
I just called Tech Support on Sunday and ordered mines. It'll be here tomorrow! :-)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] RJSH_1727:
That's how much mines was! Can't wait to see the difference!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] gsxraddict:
Most recent screen shot. I'm hoping to hit 32 hours tonight we shall see.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] oraclegustavo:
I just tried a different computer and it said $40, but when adding it to cart it when to $20. So I'm guessing for those it isn't working for try clearing your cookies. Although its weird because I have logged in to verizonwireless from this computer before.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] chimpsnest:
So, even though it doesn't pop up on the list of "compatible" devices it's still A-OK to do this to my TBolt.

Also coming up 19.99 for me, not logged into my account, add it to cart at full price and it comes up the lower price.

About to pull the trigger.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
Companies are very strict about this kind of thing. Also, it's unlikely that either VZW or HTC have "tested" this combination so don't expect it show as "compatible" ! If you go to a VZW store and ask, the rep is probably not going to tell you the Rezound battery fits. Smart thing is to simply ask for a Rezound battery and make no mention of the TBolt. On the other hand, the rep I dealt with put the battery in my phone and started showing other employees ! They're probably familiar with poor battery life complaints from TBolt owners...

Fact is, HTC does share batteries amongst devices. The Eris and one of the Incredibles use the same battery, as I recall.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Bwangster12:
So after much reading, here is my thinking (from a lamen):

It doesn't seem to mean much that one says 3.7v and one says 3.8v. The bottom line is these seem to range from the mid 3v to 4.2v. It seems as if the phone would be okay as long as you don't go well above 4.2v.

As I monitor my stock Thunderbolt battery in preparation for receiving this Rezound battery, I notice that I fluctuate to about 4.203V and dip lower as it uses battery.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] squeakyl:
picked up mine yesterday from a verizon store. 20$, just mentioned I wanted a rezound battery and asked if half off was still available. the guy behind the desk was like ?? while the cute girl next to him was like "yes".

tl,dr : always go to the cute girl for service.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Satava:
Just got mine about an hour ago from a corporate store (11-23) They're still on sale, get em while the sale lasts ;)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] bpyazel:
Nice find. Just ordered mine for $19.99 with free 2-day shippimg.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] freeqaz:
I was angry with my TBs battery life. I ended up just getting the two cruddy Hyperion batteries from Amazon. It was only like $15 or something ridiculously cheap. I think they're like 1200mah (rated 1500mah), or they feel like that. But having two spare batteries for the days when you're lost and have to use the navigation really helps. Plus the wall charged comes in handy for charging when you go to work.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Grnlantern79:
3000+ views and only 3 thank you. Wow I was hoping to pad my thank you meter with this thread. LOL....
[Thunderbolt Accessories] jbh00jh:
I bought one online yesterday, it said 29.99 but when the order was processing it dropped down to 20.99 and that's what they charged me plus tax.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[Thunderbolt Accessories] wolf howl:
Just got mine a few minutes ago, put it in and says it is at 42%. I'm wondering how do I reset the battery stats or make the phone calibrate itself to the new, larger capacity battery?

I'm not rooted.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] dittman:
I picked mine up Wednesday night. Today I'm trying to run down the battery so I can see how much use I can get out of it.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] nategodin:
Thanks for the tip, picked one up at the local Verizon store this afternoon.

As far as calibrating it goes, I assume you condition the battery in the usual way... pop it in, drain it completely, charge it completely, repeat two or three times, then you're good to go, right?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Grnlantern79:
Charge till green, turn off phone unplug charge till green, unplug turn phone on plug in and charge till green. After that just let it run to 5% before recharging and should be good to go.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] l7777:
You've pretty much got it. I don't know for sure without doing more research, but the phone uses much less voltage than that. Probably < 2 volts. It also does not use the raw battery voltage, it has voltage regulators to bring the voltage down to what it actually needs. The true upper limit for voltage is probably in the 6 volt range or even slightly higher seeing as the chargers all provide ~5 volts of power.

A battery's remaining capacity and voltage are linked. At full capacity, the voltage is ~4.2, as the battery is used, it will continually go down from there. If not for the preset cutoffs to protect the cells the battery's voltage could be drained down pretty close to 0 volts. Lithium ion batteries are permanently damaged by draining them too low though so the devices shut off before that happens.

In short, the rating on the battery has very little to do with the voltages it actually provides and it is perfectly safe to use either of the rezound batteries in the Thunderbolt. I still say that the 3.8 volts is a miss-label or else a label done by someone that doesn't understand the underlying technology of the battery.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] a1exus:
I'm using 1700mha..
[Thunderbolt Accessories] patheimata:
Thanks!

Great discovery, and as of Nov 26, the discount still shows on vzw.com when in the checkout and not logged in. Consider yourself officially thanked. :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Slack3r:
Thanks, picked one up at my local store for half off. This should go great with the insane battery life I'm already getting with Skyraider Zeus rofl.

It fits perfectly, I think it makes the phone slightly heavier though, which I like better anyway.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hogasswild:
Got mine in the mail yesterday. It definitely makes the phone slightly heavier but that causes it not to slide out of my hand anymore. I unplugged the phone this morning and it finally died nearly 17 hours later with light to moderate use. The stock battery never got over 9 hours so this is a clear improvement for me and definitely worth the $20. Why HTC / Verizon didn't provide this battery to begin with I don't know.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] solarpolitiks:
I ordered mine online and showed up as 20 whatever at checkout but when I checked my bank account it deducted 43 bucks :/

I emailed them and I am hoping for a response soon
[Thunderbolt Accessories] damnage88:
Was thinking of jumping on the $25 for $50 Living social deal and getting 2 of these batteries, but the code isn't active until Tuesday, what are the chances the sale lasts long enough for these to stack? I'm a gambling man :P
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hogasswild:
I've never been able to stack coupons through Verizon. Good luck!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Slack3r:
This is insane... I'm starting to suspect HTC managed to pack a zero point energy field inside this thing... granted I haven't been using it heavily, but still...

At this rate I don't think I'm going to even be able to get it down to 0% within 24 hours, which sucks because I'm trying to calibrate it XD
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hogasswild:
I know. It doesn't make sense. 15.7% more mah but like 50-60% more battery life? How does that equate?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] davwman:
Im getting some insane battery myself... Will post screenies in about two more days proving so.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
I'd hate to think the stock battery was mis-rated.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] KidJoe:
Verizon has the "Battery only charger (no charger included)" , Part#: HTC6425BOC, for the Rezound... I'm guessing that will work for the TB as well to charge the "extra" battery?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Slack3r:
Going on 35 hours and 21% left... bets as to how long it'll last?

Remember battery saver kicks in at 15%. I'm hoping for a full 48 hours :D
[Thunderbolt Accessories] mi7chy:
Tempted to try this out even though standard battery is adequate. Currently at 39 hours with 10% left with light use on latest stock ROM.

Update: Ordered online and will see what difference it makes when it arrives.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] nategodin:
I'm getting phenomenal battery life as well... really had to work (by work I mean play several rounds of Worms) to drain the battery down to 5% last night. Gave it a full charge overnight, took it to work (my actual place of employment) with me today, and 12 hours of normal use later I'm still at 80% battery. Very impressive!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] wherestheboost:
Running eternity...

Just charged the battery to full this morning - unplugged - set the phone to 4g. Battery stayed at 100% for about an hour. NEVER happened before. Anyways... I used it on and off - downloaded a 2 gig file - came home...still at 60%. I forgot what else I did to make it lose its juice. I also rewatched an 11 minute youtube video 5-6 times. And... yeah. Anyways...it's off and charging now :D Can't wait to see the life it gets while just staying on 3g.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] julesism:
Got mine this morning. Thanks for the info/head-ups :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] swieder711:
I just ordered a Rezound battery for the Tbolt from the VzW website. $20+tax and free shipping.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] johnnyv5:
Way better then stock battery! This is after a couple charging cycles...

Edit: using bamf soab 1.09 w imoseyn 5.1 battery save mode. Not overclocked. Don't see the need to oc.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] IAmRelex:
Thanks for posting this, I just flashed the newest bamf with the stock kernel and on my first day with it I'm at 57% after 11 and a half hours and I'm still on my first cycle. I'll have to call up my local verizon and see if they have any rezound batteries.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] fritz_sean:
Thanks for posting this, I will have to get one. Getting tired of the extended battery being so HUGE.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] ponyboy82:
I was actually getting pretty good battery life (easily all day with light usage) on the stock battery. I just got the Rezound one and can say it's still at least as good. I was able to get through two full days on a single charge twice in a row. This last time I used it minimally and still had around 30% left when I finally plugged it in for the night. In the past when I didn't charge it overnight, I think I would've needed to charge the stock battery during the second day.

Hopefully HTC's next milestone phone will have an even bigger capacity battery we can swap in :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] PhillyCheez:
This battery is sick! Paid $20 online awhile back without logging onto account... If I had to pay $30 I happily would.

Got a asurion replacement coming tomorrow... which means i'll have 2 thunderbolt batteries plus the rezound battery... i'm loaded. :)
[Thunderbolt Accessories] keeverw:
Sorry if this has already been answered.

But even if this is not a misprint, no electronic device is going to care about a 0.1 volt difference. It will have no effect on your phone's operation.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] solarpolitiks:
Battery came in today. Still contacting verizon to see if they can refund me the difference between the receipt they emailed me and the one that came in the box.

I turned my phone off and I am charging it up now. Curious to see what kind of battery life I can get with this. I was doing pretty well with the stock plus CPU Tuner and Juice Defender
[Thunderbolt Accessories] xs11e:
Got the Rezound battery and so far....

.... it seems to have slightly better battery life but... I have to say I started using my phone at 7 AM on Monday and at 7 PM I had 95% battery left with fairly heavy usage. I probably could have gone 3 days or more w/o charging.

How? I had activated my BlackBerry 9650. I get a laugh talking about battery life on an Android phone, there is no such thing. Some Android phones have battery life that just totally sucks and some are worse that totally sucks.

That being said, my T'Bolt has almost acceptable battery life, rooted, running the Eternity 129 ROM and all apps I don't use removed by Titanium Backup.

I can get around 12 hours on the Rezound battery.... maybe.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] mike.s:
That's nothing. My wristwatch goes for over a year, with heavy usage, on a really tiny battery.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] mattamous:
I'm in the same boat... I'm stock and not rooted, which I know doesn't allow for the best stats. But, even with Juice defender plus, it only seems to be fairly increased battery life. That being said, still worth the money to even gain several hours out of the tbolt.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] mi7chy:
Rezound battery arrived today and is undergoing charge. On another note, I installed Google Maps 6.0 update and World of Goo game yesterday and either one, the other or both are draining my battery fast because I woke up to a dead phone this morning.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Gnoop:
Picked one up as well. This should help offset Dialer becoming the new battery hog.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Deltadood24:
I returned my rezound battery today, the price was right at 19.99 but all I experienced while I had the battery in my tbolt were data drops.. I put my trident electra extended battery back in and my phone went back to full coverage! Anyone else experience any issues?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] wherestheboost:
I do think that this battery charges beyond 100%. Had the phone unplugged...turned on mobile data 3g... And the phone stayed at 100% for 5 hours. Barely used it. Then it finally started to decrease at a certain slope... Now even if i turn off mobile data, it will lose power - albeit slowly. I woke up with 5% less.

Prior to this...at first charge...mobile data off... The battery was at 100% the whole night... 7 hours...until i woke up and turned on data. Again...16 hours later, i turned off data hoping the power would stay constant through the night...but nope...it went down about 6%. Either a program that was opened during the day is eating up battery...or the battery is charging past 100%.

What can i use to monitor whats eating up battery...quantitatively?
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
It's not charging beyond 100%. It gets "stuck". Reboot 2-3 times in a row and it will adjust.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Slack3r:
Did you have the stock battery cover on at the time?

EDIT: Was for an earlier response XD
[Thunderbolt Accessories] jbh00jh:
Ordered one on 11/27. Site said 20.99 when I pushed order. When it arrived the invoice said $39 + tax. I called vzw and they said it was $39.00.

Whatever, their batts are usually around $45-$50 so I can live with $#39.00.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] swieder711:
Sounds like an issue with the regular battery cover.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] ponyboy82:
Hmm, this is fishy. I just double checked my credit card statement and I got mine for $21.69 after tax. That was probably the original price, but they should have been 50%.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] hallstevenson:
The battery's NORMAL price is $39.99.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Deltadood24:
I made sure it was fully sealed and everything so I don't know.. it could have been but I'm starting to think my phone/service has issues! Haha my phone doesn't receive texts half the time either so maybe its a defective pile of crap!
[Thunderbolt Accessories] mi7chy:
Make sure you don't log into Verizon with your account when you add the battery to the cart. You shouldn't settle for paying double what everyone else is paying.
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jester1614:
Picked up my rezound battery today, sale is still going on, is it ok to do my initial charging in a wall charger? If yes are there any special procedures
[Thunderbolt Accessories] kendive:
You talking about Seidio? Stay away from them on the battery side. Total rip off...
[Thunderbolt Accessories] famester:
Just picked mine up from the store for 20 got a day of work ahead of me an ill post how it handles
[Thunderbolt Accessories] Jester1614:
installed it out of the box 43 percent charge, lasted about 7 hrs with moderate use
[Thunderbolt Accessories] LeftyGR:
Heard this issue a few times. Gently pull up the metal tabs on the phone that touch the back piece. Should fix that...

Sent from my Eternity Infected TB