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[Desire Android Development] yabadabadooo:
its mybe because hmm some ppl dont know how to do that?

instead of flaming other ppl u maybe should help them?

in this f***ing time u quoted and flamed them u maybe would have made a cm7r2 ver? ...retard
[Desire Android Development] Sandvold:
Sorted out the links
[Desire Android Development] Denimo:
Many thanks! Downloading it now.
[Desire Android Development] theyau:
Does this work on data++
[Desire Android Development] rwb2073:
Works here. I forgot to record my settings from GB but it configured sp.telus.com correctly anyway.

Other than what's already been mentioned, the only thing not working here now is text to speech.
[Desire Android Development] Andreas75k:
Just to clear things up, the system size of the official new beta version is 157 MB, so any of the following hboots will work:

- Bravo Stock (system 250 MB | cache 40 MB | data 147 MB)

- Bravo Data++ (system 180 MB | cache 5 MB | data 252 MB)

- Bravo Sense (system 180 MB | cache 40 MB | data 217 MB)

I wouldn't recommend Data++ as the cache partition is too small. In my own personal opinion the best would be Sense as the system is enough and still leaves a lot more on data than stock.
[Desire Android Development] MatDrOiD:
Okay, maybe I was too rude. Creating a little smaller version of a ROM is very simple if one did not have to do too much:

You only have to go /system and delete some things. Easiest and not very risky is to delete some apks from /system/app or most ringtones from /system/media. Which apps can be deleted can be found out here:

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones

To check if the new version now fits into internal /system partition, unzip the modified the file and check the size of the /systemfolder and compare it to the one of your Hboot.

For more "bareboning" I do not know enough about roms, but with the options above you can make some roms 20-30 MB smaller.

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The problem with the small /cache partition can be solved by symlinking the /cache partition to SD card (FAT32 partition):

http://forums.miuiandroid.com/showthread.php?6527-Miui-and-CM7-HBoot

I know it's for MIUI, but I cannot see why it should not work for others roms as well.
[Desire Android Development] portis24:
you can launch adb shell and do the following commands:

umount /cache

mount -t tmpfs -o size=42M,nr_inodes=42k,mode=0770 tmpfs /cache

chown system.cache /cache
[Desire Android Development] Andreas75k:
I see no reason why that should not work, good idea. But maybe some more experienced dev can comment?

But that would still force us to remove stuff (app. 13 MB) from the rom to fit it into the cm7r2 hboot, and what if I don't want to loose anything... I'll just stick with the Sense hboot and flash the zips "as is".
[Desire Android Development] MatDrOiD:
What exactly does this command?

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With the way I described you could use the Data++ Hboot, get 35 MB more space than with Sense Hboot and you also do not have to change something in the zip.
[Desire Android Development] K900:
It mounts a ramdisk to /cache.
[Desire Android Development] suleman96:
hey guys,

I have install this Rom with App2sd on the sense hboot with 217mb data but i have actually only 130mb free space after install 5apps....

??
[Desire Android Development] nub0r:
Did u just flash the Beta 0.1 Rom and then Darktremors app2sd?
[Desire Android Development] gauron:
Hi !

First at all , big thank you sandvold for doing this awesome work :) its the best rom i ever had :D

but (unfortunately) i have one problem ->

When i use a bluethoot speaker normaly the sound only comes out of the speaker and the phone is mute ... if i use the alarm-clock the sound comes out of both ... maybe there is a little wrong audio-routing setting ?

:D Greez Gauron
[Desire Android Development] jim2san:
For me, sometimes need realy long to show contact when search it. Search for another contact and show it immediately. Stock launcher

Same here 24h/7/365 wifi or 3G.
[Desire Android Development] scutworker:
Yep, that did it. Thanks a lot. You're a bloody genius (either that or you can read! :D:D:D)
[Desire Android Development] Tuborg68:
As requested : here is how I got things to work for me in 0.9 with a2sd and restoring apps with Titanium Backup:

1. Full wipe

2. Choose stock a2sd

3. After rom is installed first thing is to run terminal and "su" + enter. Then "a2sd install"+ enter. On prompts answer "y" to move Dalvik and "n" for moving appdata.

4. Yes to reboot.

5. After reboot, fix wifi, google account and install Titanium Backup from play.

6. In titanium check under settings that location for restore is the first default option

7. Then choose to restore apps+ data.

Hopefully all your apps will be restored (note: internal will eventually fill upp if you have lots of apps)

I managed to restore about 100 apps this way.

Hope this can help others.

Please comment and add more useful hints! I'm a noobie :-).

Skickat från min HTC Desire via Tapatalk 2
[Desire Android Development] suiller:
just change from apex settings (home screen setting):

vertical grid => 5x4

horizontal grid => 4x5
[Desire Android Development] LaidbackNikez:
YUNO-BOMB incoming in 3...........

2...................

1.................
[Desire Android Development] vashishtuday:
Would love to go with the Genius part :D
[Desire Android Development] Sandvold:
This is correct. But at the moment no one is working on tiamat as a base, if any kernel guys out there could try that (all of nikez,drewis and shaky have their gits up) so changes for full hwa shouldn't be impossible at all. I think this would be the best approach so we can 100% confirm that it's something wrong in the evervolv base
[Desire Android Development] muellersmattes:
After changing my hboot to stock, i also encountered the internal space to fill up. I'm using amarullz instead of stock, and now (did a full wipe) have about 70 MB free in internal. I tried to restore all my apps to default location or to previous location (was using amarullz since 0.4), and after about 90 apps internal is full and Titanium keeps showing "restoring", but no progress. SD-ext also fills up (was about 400 MB used). Is this just the big dalvik cache, or are there some hidden problems? I never encountered any issues while using CM7r2, but had decided to switch because of the various reported problems (as stock should be more stable).
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
Use cm7r2, default a2sd (the one with terminal activation) and move apps + dalvik to sdext, tbh. it gives you most space for apps without big performance hit.

From my experience amarullz is worst in terms of performance, and it fills up pretty fast on stock hboot because it has only 147Mb space for /data/ partition.
[Desire Android Development] muellersmattes:
Well, i guess i'll have to. Thought that stock hboot + amarullz would work best, as Sandvold is using it himself.
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
Most likely he doesn't have many apps / games.
[Desire Android Development] logox01:
@Sandvold

Isn't drewis kernel, which is included in 0.9 and linked at your website, based on tiamat? (test-kernel-drewis-desire-tiamat-kgsl38-signed)
[Desire Android Development] Spierbal:
I am sorry that is misinformation, I have heard people complain before about Amarullz as it made more sluggish and slower, especially if you got sd card class below 4. I don't see why you would run into space problems with Amarullz.. Just to confirm I have got 112 apps installed atm. Ironically, anything other than Amarullz in my experience would lead to space issues. In the past, stock a2sd did not suffice as time when on, you were basically forced to opt for xdata, which is inconsistent as hell. So, speak only in terms of your own experience and don't assume things.
[Desire Android Development] neekos:
Hi everyone.

Just wanted to confirm something.

Will Regular as2d and Dalvik2sd in the installer mods use my internal memory AND ext4 partition for apps, without me having having to choose?

Thanks
[Desire Android Development] bliblablub:
Had the same problem yesterday.

You just need to edit the grid size in apex (not sure how it is named correctly) it changed from 5x4 to 4x4 and it still says its 5x4. So just edit it again to 5x4 and voila :)
[Desire Android Development] neekos:
Hi k3lcior.

Will the default a2sd (Do you mean stock a2sd?) use the internal memory as well as my EXT4 partition for apps?
[Desire Android Development] Spierbal:
With stock a2sd its completely up to you. It is recommended to move apps and dalvik to ext and keep app data on nand (YNY). Just follow the instruction as per the opening post you should be fine. Btw, if you good sd card, why don't give Amarullz a go :)
[Desire Android Development] lexxa:
Stability

This is not a complaint!

24 hours with 0.9

setup:

apex

amarullz

aGPS

MMS patch

Shaky kernel

i tinkered a bit with setCPU and i had only one random reboot last night

the batery life is amazing! absolutely amazing!

keep up the great work guys
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
As i said before i tested all scripts on this ROM and amarullz seems slowest one, tested on Sandisk Mobile Ultra Class 6 and ADATA Class 10 SD's.
[Desire Android Development] baggos12:
Youtube does not work for me 50% of the time. It gives me green screen insteadof vide. Audio is fine. when i try to swich off HD, i get a black screen and after 3 seconds, it throws me back to my video feed.
[Desire Android Development] Sandvold:
Ye from back in the old day (from when we started around christmas). But as far as i know it's not based on the one released in march which we used to avoid bsod. So I hope someone will take up the gauntlet and try the newest changes on that source. I will do it myself when I get back but that won't be for another 2 weeks and got 0 kernel experience:P But so far i think that's the best plan
[Desire Android Development] zisoft:
Is it intended to have no button backlight at all?

Doesn't hurt me but would be nice to have a choice to configure
[Desire Android Development] degoo:
I flashed Adreno over 0.9. Very stable, but I think is the same, no smooth changes, and Antutu says the same:

stock 0.9 0.9 + Adreno libs

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total 2603 2661

RAM 418 428

CPU Integer 678 684

CPU Float 276 277

2D Graphics 148 157

3D Graphics 756 756
[Desire Android Development] suiller:
I had the same experience but I noticed smoother transitions trough various menus, in particular with apex the 1st impact after fresh flash is evident, so not just a placebo :cool:

try yourself...

1st flash without adreno libs & wait 5 minutes, record your test session with a cam or another cell

then flash with adreno libs & wait always 5 minutes, record again your session...

compare 2 video sessions & you'll notice a smoother movement between slides in 2nd video
[Desire Android Development] Spierbal:
This is my last post on this matter, it is just that I can't really fathom why you get those results with the cards you say have tested it on. You must be doing something wrong. I have been using Amarullz since the GB days, and it has not let me down. In the past, I have even used Sandisk class 4. No random reboots or freezes. Games and apps run just as fast with no lag, no performance loss to speak off.

Earlier you said, it is only matter of time before you run into space issues. This is one of the key strenghts of the script, as you will not see the "running out of space" error when only half way used. As it allows for more memory to install apps and mounts all data as internal. For me it is so much better than others: Stock a2sd, S2E, Regular a2sd,Dalvik a2sd, DTAPPS2SD...
[Desire Android Development] Vinneeh:
Hmm, when I install this rom with just standard options, without customizing, the keyboard will not work.

Hboot: CM7r2
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
Then the installation of amarullz in 0.9 is not working properly, because i can clearly see that the /data/data partition is not mounted, it gets filled pretty fast and thats why people with Stock + Amarullz keeps reporting low memory issues.
[Desire Android Development] suiller:
I can quote :cool:

Amarullz "re-partitioning" scheme is very simple and efficient at the same time (not a real partitioning of course)
[Desire Android Development] degoo:
Yeah! sorry, I didn't wait a minute to run Antutu after flashing adreno libs.....

now, Score: 2848

2D: 299 ---> old 157

3D: 750 ----> old 750.

Almost twice 2D speed!!!!
[Desire Android Development] suiller:
you are almost right but it's not a script fault... it was projected initially for AOSP tables

# du -hcs *|grep -v ^0
288.0K anr
212.4M app
4.0K app-private
4.0K app_s
56.0K backup
95.7M data
4.0K framework_s
4.0K lib_s
16.0K lost+found
400.0K system
4.0K user
308.9M total

EDIT:

I've just 126M in use (under real /data with amarullz), and I have about 130 app installed... very rare to fill up

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I told you :cool:
[Desire Android Development] gab_hamelin:
I got a BSOD with new kernel (shaky) ondemand

Everything stock exept apex, amarulz and aGPS.

I on 0.9 and did full wiped
[Desire Android Development] suiller:
this is almost the 100th report about BSOD with the same configuration as me... and I never reported a BSOD, the only difference is that I use conservative governor (128-347 off / 960-1075 on)

so could be also a combination between governor & rampling freq step (conservative is waaaay less aggressive in stepping freq too)
[Desire Android Development] gab_hamelin:
I know lot of people has and BSOD with this configuration before. I just wanted to let sandvlod know that I still have BSOD issu with thw ken shaky's kernel.
[Desire Android Development] :
Thanks guys for reporting bsods

I wont be continuing/releasing kernel development for AOSP, until ive done testing myself

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[Desire Android Development] muellersmattes:
And that's why i'm wondering. I suppose you are using the CM7r2? On that, it works for me, too (changed back to it now), but on stock it doesn't. Did you flash the original script or the one included in the build?
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
Ok i found something interesting regarding panorama @ cm7r2.

I installed this camera app: Camera ICS+ and the panorama is working, so it's probably something wrong with the apk not the libs.
[Desire Android Development] Sandvold:
Great thank you:) Probably something with it beeing on data intead of system then I guess
[Desire Android Development] Ryther:
I have 300 points in 2d with a fresh installation of 0.9

I've noticed that even with previous ROMs based on ICS this value have been doubled/halved one test yes and another no, but with latest releases it's becoming more and more stable.
[Desire Android Development] suiller:
yep me too on cm7r2, I took the script directly from amarullz thread (but I think it's the same)
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
Do you realize that i was talking about Stock hboot all the time earlier, about the space issues with amarullz?
[Desire Android Development] Sandvold:
I'm really gonna try taking an early night today. (ended up to 2am last night as well fixing one of the testers phones)

So saying it early today and hopefully I'll catch some more sleep at least. I'll read over everything tomorrow.

For new readers who experience reboots/bsod:

-Flash adreno libs from website

-change to conservative cpu governor

This will hopefully help, but not fix the problem.

But no work from me tonight, but if you're lucky then I'm gonna start getting a kernel based on tiamat up to date with the other kernels and hopefully that will sort the problems. If I get a good night sleep i might start tomorrow:P

Anyway if you visist the site click on an ad.

Good night:)
[Desire Android Development] BoSib:
Moved the camera.apk from data/app to system/app and rebooted..

Now it works perfectly! :)
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
+1 confirmed.
[Desire Android Development] miczk:
Hey,

how stable is this ROM ? Now Im using MIUI with 2.4.13 and Im satisfied but I wanna try Android 4.0.4. Any suggestions or tips ? Which ROM is now the most stable (and which version).

Thanks :D
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
It's pretty stable homever you might have some issues with flash content/youtube, usb tethering and camera (choppy video recording), if you're fine with that should be good to go.
[Desire Android Development] digit-all:
For me this version (9) is better then the version before. It's much more stable!

Love this!
[Desire Android Development] mhulsegge:
+1 after installing camera ics and then moving camera.apk from data/app to system /app and rebooting panorama works. Thanks!
[Desire Android Development] gab_hamelin:
Hi, each time I flash the update after full wiped. I use Titanium, but I can't use google play store. I get invalid package message.

I try to wipe cache and dalvik. I also clear the strore cache and data and it's not working. the only way to work it'S if I only restore users app.
[Desire Android Development] S_Kool:
Over 2days no BSOD

Cant wait to get out of beta stage, thx Sandvold and all others dev's

From.Mobile
[Desire Android Development] hakatu:
Problems with WiFi

I've installed a clean 0.9 with stock settings. The problem with disconnecting WiFi is still present. Logcat in attachment.
[Desire Android Development] MidnightDevil:
I had that a similar issue too with specific packages. Trying erasing cache & dalvik cache, delete and recreated account, didin't work. I gave up on updating those apps lol :\
[Desire Android Development] rustykwak:
I got round that by = when update fails uninstall that app then install again works fine after, just re-install data from TB!
[Desire Android Development] Bojan155:
Running fix permissions from recovery has resolved this issue a couple of times for me, worth a shot.
[Desire Android Development] ciao43:
I don't get it, what's wrong with my phone?

0.9 cm7r2 apex, a2sd yny, agps, mms, shaky, smartassv2

only 17% after 7h47min

20min of gps usage, a bit of surfing, some updates over wifi and two phone calls.
[Desire Android Development] :
Btw theres 2 hw revisions afaik, that could be the issue, 2 hw versions were created for a reason, probz due to a hw bug

Sent from my HTC Desire HD
[Desire Android Development] ciao43:
is there a way to find out which one i have?
[Desire Android Development] k3lcior:
It would be easier if you just full wipe and flash 0.9 again. (with shaky's Kernel)
[Desire Android Development] mld0491:
my battery usage is no where near as good as that :confused:
[Desire Android Development] Spierbal:
Frankly, it is difficult to know how good the poster's battery usage really is, without time spent on display. Curiously, no wifi to be seen anywhere. Display and wifi are two of the biggest drainers, so as I always look for that as it tells me that your are using your device.
[Desire Android Development] muellersmattes:
I think that amarullz just isn't made for stock hboot. I got 13 MB free now on /system, and another 128 on internal. That's 140 MB left (+5 cache), compared to 50 on stock /system (+40 cache). So where do those 50MB come from? And i have even more apps installed now.

Gesendet von meinem HTC Desire
[Desire Android Development] IceBone:
Well, it's been fun, but my Desire is going to my sister in a few weeks. I'll be getting a One S for my birthday. :D

You guys have fun and continue with the great work! :)
[Desire Android Development] tonyp:
I absolutely love this pic:
[Desire Android Development] S_Kool:
thats right... i didn't use wifi today and EDGE very short time

usually my battery last max 20h, but still i want it to point out what a great development are we running;)

sry for bad english
[Desire Android Development] chichoko:
Thanks for that! You made my day :P
[Desire Android Development] LaidbackNikez:
Oooooooooooooh :O FANCY! If my YUNO-bomb get's old ... I will take this one! Until then, YUNO-bomb > Nuclear-bomb.
[Desire Android Development] Sandvold:
I'm doing the same tbh. Haven't had time looking on that error yet. Now kernel is number 1 pri for me as well as obvious bugs;)
[Desire Android Development] tehTerminator:
Didn't get what you are talking

with amarullz I got about 1.01 GB internal Storage space (Of Course its ext4 partition on SD card). about 400MB filled up because of apps leaving nearly 600 MB free Space.

/system has about 250 MB in Stock HBoot I think its the place where ROM is installed

and Installed apps never goes to /system

with amarullz they go to ext4 Partition of SD card.
[Desire Android Development] marcocsh:
+1

5% battery is gone after standby for 20mins.

I'm using the conservative governor with min CPU 960, max CPU 1075.

Perhaps due to the quality of the battery? My battery is a cheap one, costed USD10 only, but it's brand new.
[Desire Android Development] vossy99:
What is the difference between Grey & Blue signal bars? Only getting grey on 0.9 where would get the blue ones on 0.8.

Though it had something to do with Google location settings, but I flicked that on & off, but no change.
[Desire Android Development] horst0815:
blue = connected to google servers
[Desire Android Development] zisoft:
Open Google Playstore (Market) App. This mostly resolves this issue for me and the icon turns to blue again.

---------- Post added at 07:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:26 AM ----------

Doesn't that mean that the CPU clock rate is at 960 MHz even when the phone is in sleep mode?

I have set conservative governor with 384/998 (formerly 245/998 but 245 is missing in 0.9) and get pretty good battery lifetime.
[Desire Android Development] Sandvold:
Lol min CPU 960 wtf. You should have worse battery tbh.

No point even using CPU governor if you set min that high. Lower it to 240 or something (I use 128 atm and have no issues)

Read what the guy above wrote;)

A car would use a lot of gas if you was going full speed all the time. Even if you are in neutral;)
[Desire Android Development] Sandvold:
I'll get 245 re added. Just an error
[Desire Android Development] vossy99:
That didn't work for me:(. Tried clearing my Playstore data as well, but no good.
[Desire Android Development] S_Kool:
that's funny:), yesterday i was really happy that i have none BSOD and this morning i got 3 BSOD's in few hours

that's weird

sry no logcat

Hboot = DATA++

Version = Beta_0.9

Full wipe before? = Yes

A2SD-script = amarullz

T9 dialer

aGPS

Patched GMAPS

Supercharger

Shaky kernel
[Desire Android Development] muellersmattes:
Ok, let me put it like this: With amarullz, apps and app-data should go to sd-ext. System app-data should go to internal. Dalvik cache also should go to internal. Rom always goes to /system, but on CM7r2, parts of /system are linked to /data partition, as the /system partition is too small. In contrast, on stock hboot, 50 MB are wasted on /system, as the rom is smaller than the old stock rom. But that's fine, as long as sd-ext is properly used. In my case, something filled up the internal storage (i can't tell if it was misplaced apps, app-data or just a big dalvik cache). Those values i wrote are total internal memory left, as the internal memory can't be extended. It is shown in Titanium Backup, internal /data is shown as sd-ext due to amarullz' mounting system. And so i have a big difference (50 MB) in total free internal space comparing stock hboot and cm7r2 hboot. And i am just wondering where this difference comes from. It is most likely a problem with TiB not properly restoring to sd-ext, but to internal instead, but it may also be a fault in the script (which was customized for this rom).

But now i am back on CM7r2 and everything works again. Only thing is that it felt a bit smoother on stock, but may be just a feeling.