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[HTC Rezound] Droidel:
You doubt we'll get it from him or you doubt it in general?
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Im assuming he means from evil as he wouldn't know the answer to that
[HTC Rezound] jayochs:
lol yeah i read his page..it's kind of insane sounding. but, whatever.

either way, i don't doubt we'll get s-off in the near future; from him, probably not...plus i'd rather one of us community members figure it out to share with eachother without being bullied into some kind of fee to get it :P
[HTC Rezound] rboddy:
And that's how to lead by example!
[HTC Rezound] Crooke356:
IM not talking about devil. Sounds like he's doing good but I don't know him personally. I know for a fact its done, its coming, we just have to wait a bit.
[HTC Rezound] Geoi1006:
That's the mature way to handle it.

P from my ADR6425LVW using XDA App
[HTC Rezound] reverepats:
you know what your right....

@Evil_DevNull we already announced the randomly chosen winners. You weren't one of them.

that was tweeted by someone who is part of Androidandme.....wow i hope this guys sint full of ****..but i wouldnt be surprised

Ohh and by the way.....Take it easy on the Scotsman!!! This guy has been around for a while, I wouldnt believe everything Evil says guys. Banned from 3 of the biggest sites for nothing?....C'Mon seriosly. The guy rooted the EVO SHIFT and charged $11 for the package to root your phone on software thats made free to the public. If we get root from him im not saying i wont use it, but i will not support him at all. thats a bunch of BS...and now he blocking his users on twitter..what a joke......RANT OVER!!!!!

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Yeah I NOT PAYING JACK ****!!!!....Is that even legal?...because Android being open souece and all?....well maybe it is, WHATEVA but if he charges for this, **** is gonnna hit the fan. Donating is one thing, charging for root on software thats considered OPEN and FREE.....I dunno
[HTC Rezound] Raiderman:
Lol, if someone was stupid enough to pay for a root package, then they deserve what they get. I just asked a simple question, then stated an opinion. No more no less. I have nothing against anyone, and probably couldnt care less about any scottsman or evil...blah blah. Im just here reading about rooting my rezound
[HTC Rezound] triton302:
Funny how you're a Moderator, supposed to be setting an example, yet you bash other people while others that do the same thing are punished. Lead by example dude.

I'm not defending Evil or anything, I don't know who you are and I personally don't care, but I do have a problem with a Moderator treating others here with such an unprofessional demeanor.
[HTC Rezound] pstevep:
Do I need to close this thread since it apparently is not going anywhere productive? Started as a decent discussion about root possibilities and now is just trash talk. And discussion of something/someone that none of us know about. This is the final warning for this thread, get it back to topic, drop the dev/moderator downing. Any more discussion on that topic will lead to closed thread and infractions.

If the dev in question actually releases a s-off method, then maybe we will discuss it. Until then drop it.
[HTC Rezound] triton302:
Are there any other exploit methods out there that would at least get it rooted? I know Z4, Gingerbreak, etc, have all been tried, but is there anything else HTC-specific we're missing?
[HTC Rezound] Conduitz:
I know this is completely off topic from the OP at this point and im not on a side in this at all, just an observation. Its pretty lame that Ive read like 5 posts from you ever, and they all have some kind of mod-powers-related threat in them.

If a dev hosts a 700mb file on his site, 20k people dl it, and no one donates, you know what that equals? a bill for the dev. thats pretty crappy when you break it down. Dev works hard on stuff for a phone he might not even have, releases his free work.... gets a bill. If I were a dev, or that dev in specific, i'd have charged people too.

As for his "craziness" or "spoiled kid" attitude.... hes from Chicago. any of you ever been there? every single person in and around that city walks around with a sense of entitlement. I feel his might me more justified than others.

I challenge you to find a genius or highly intelligent person who isnt some kind of quirky (crazy). Einstein was bat sh*t crazy, and we all hold him in high regard.

and no, im not comparing evil to einstein. far from it. just an example.
[HTC Rezound] Crooke356:
close it. Your parenting. "now kids, don't put your...... Or else". The posts are already here, they will be read again and you'll have to wag your finger. Ridiculous. Close it. S-off will be here real soon anyway.
[HTC Rezound] theGross1:
IBTL

XDA app on my rezound
[HTC Rezound] dsb9938:
/me reads back to see what all the drama is about.

Never a dull moment on this site, yet somehow I always miss the excitement.

EDIT: Okay, I guess since I'm bored for the next 5 minutes I can throw in my two pennies.

First, do you guys have any idea how much BS the mods on here have to deal with? Try being one on a small site, much less one this huge. Then add people like evil.

Second, being a n00b dev myself, I totally get why they start ignoring PMs and stop answering questions. People pester you to tweak things a million different ways to try to make each person happy. Not possible. Then they talk smack about you when you don't do each little thing they want. And if something you do doesn't work exactly right, they act like you did it on purpose and you owe them a fix. This stuff is done mostly by people who do it for fun. They just post it to share, not because they want a second job.

Lastly, and more on topic, I have the Rezound. I'm confident it'll get opened up so we can have our way with it. I have realized though, that no matter what anybody says, till you have your hands on it, it's just talk.

Seems to me, all this talk gets people excited, then lets them down, over and over. Then they get upset. Then they say something they wish nobody had seen. But by the time the realize that, it's too late.

Perhaps everybody, users, devs, and mods, need to just relax, take a breath, and be patient. You have a great phone. Enjoy it. And if we're all very lucky, you'll be able to do all the neat stuff you want on it soon enough.

D

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[HTC Rezound] reverepats:
Just checked out some of your work, Are you guys thinking of working on the Rezound as well?....stuff looks pretty sweet man!!!
[HTC Rezound] dsb9938:
I definately am. The regular BAMF guys already have two of them.

I would expect to see good things.

D
[HTC Rezound] pstevep:
And that's the end of that. I mean really people. I'm here to help not be a douche, would be nice if everyone took that approach.
[HTC Rezound] IXIKelsonIXI:
It's @alpharevx. I sent them a tweet asking about it. No response.

Rabble rabble rabble.
[HTC Rezound] reverepats:
Haha I concted the both via Twitter and email. I'll post when if and when I hear back from them
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
#revolutionary
[HTC Rezound] scotty1223:
you guys prolly will not get any replys,unfortunately. i follow them both and they dont tweet much,and from what ive seen are very reluctant to give up any inside info until theyre good and ready :(

we did tweet at jcase "has the rezound been rooted?" and his reply was this:

"yes but im not releasing it until my demands are met, 72cans of chew and nudes of Bea Author."

may be a rick roll,or may be he has something hes not gonna come forth with yet. take it for what its worth.
[HTC Rezound] Russellmania:
Can't wait to hear that this thing has S-Off. I'm still rocking an OG Droid and will be getting something new in the next month or so. Really at this point it's down to this, the Nexus and the Razr, but the Razr is falling behind. All things equal (IE this phone gets some killer custom roms or CM7/9/ICS), I think I like this phone a little better than the Nexus. Seems like more solid build quality and maybe a slightly better screen, plus likely better sound and expandable memory. With that said, I'm probably not going to buy the Rezound until I know it's fully rooted b/c as much as I like the hardware I don't want to be stuck with Sense.

Sorry for rambling, I just really want this phone rooted, haha!
[HTC Rezound] jasonpantuliano:
Well if it helps I pray to the phone root gods every night before bed that one of these geniuses figure this out. I wish I could help but don't know crap about unlocking bootloaders. Wish I did though
[HTC Rezound] Conduitz:
seconded. I can cook roms and flashables but thats about it. Bootloaders and watnot are way over my head.
[HTC Rezound] Newt:
heres a good article to read apparently our phones are supposed to come s-off and vzw is breaking the law by locking them

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/it-is-illegal-for-verizon-to-lock-some-bootloaders/

im thinking about filing a claim cant hurt i guess
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
I saw that a couple weeks ago. Sadly, it doesn't really surprise me.
[HTC Rezound] Cadillac Kid:
Somebody has to work for a law firm? Class action lawsuit.....
[HTC Rezound] scotty1223:
lol ive been praying to the root gods myself. id swing a dead chicken around at midnight under a full moon if i thot it would help :p

unfortunately,i think we will find its perfectly legal for vzw to request that bootloaders remain locked,under the "reasonable network management" notion,as modifying devices like we do could lead to folks using the device and network as they hadnt intended. :(

im sure they are in fact, the reason it disapeared from the htcdev supported devices.

if anything,im pretty tempted to stop signing contracts all together. that way i can swap all 4 of my lines over to some gsm network when mine is up,since they dont seem to care about bootloaders or even unlocked sim cards. eff you,vzw!:D
[HTC Rezound] Trophynuts:
why does the title of this thread have (probably not) in it? is there some info that i missed in the thread that leads people to believe that S Off will not be achieved?

Also VZW isn't breaking the law on their locked bootloader policy. Scotty explained it pretty good above.

That article has some gray area in it and doesn't really emphasize that if unlocking the bootloader could cause problems with network integrity then they have the right to have manufacturers lock the bootloaders.
[HTC Rezound] rfarrah:
Read the OP. He was suggesting an idea for a procedure.
[HTC Rezound] scotty1223:
i think everyone is a lil freaked out because its been out almost a week and it hasnt happened yet. weve been pretty spoiled by the devs finding ways in prior to devices even being released. as some exploits are patched in google source code and some are patched by manufactures,its getting harder and harder to find ways in.

moto devices still have locked bootloaders after bein out for months/years and its not inconcieveable that the same thing could happen here,despite the fact that htc devices have been pretty "hacker friendly" in the past.
[HTC Rezound] joshnichols189:
Why everyone is freaking out is beyond me. Did no one here have an original incredible? It took a solid two months before we had root AND s-off.
[HTC Rezound] warnette:
Since I live in Winston Ill run down to RJR's headquarters and demand the ordered amount of chew.

Who's got the nudz?
[HTC Rezound] scotty1223:
i asked him if hed accept betty white instead... no response :eek:

i think people are freakin out because times are changing. the root community is growing,and theres alot of open discussion about it that there wasnt before. not to mention blazing fast 4g speeds that they really dont want people tethering with for free. ;)

as i mentioned... encrypted moto bootloaders are STILL locked. theres no gaurantee we will ALWAYS be able to s-off htc devices.
[HTC Rezound] combatmedic870:
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm

i have, even if it is legal!
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
I read that too a couple weeks back. Never filed a claim though. Seems to be the time!

Edit: Filed
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Ask anyone with a droid x. Not that anyone cares now but that boatloader remains locked.

As long as it isn't encrypted we should be fine. What worries me is the lack of support on the rezound threads.

I just can't imagine people aren't getting this phone
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
It's only a week old. Wait another month or so.
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Right. Just the evo 3d threads were Blowing up by now. But im sure revolution and unrevoked are on it.

I still have my 3d also which is a great phone
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
Also, Sprint promoted the E3D a ton. The Rezound has barely been given any press.
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
that is true
[HTC Rezound] yojoe600:
Remember how the Droid Incredible was sold out on launch day and there were never any advertisements :p that was so awesome. Everyone learned about it from forums or online.
[HTC Rezound] Trophynuts:
i can wait till Jan 9th. at least lol.

Yeah as a guy coming from a DX that bootloader is locked up so that no one is getting into it. and i'm pretty sure that won't change anytime soon.

All we can do is try and be patient and hope root and s off are achieved soon.
[HTC Rezound] Newt:
Well I love the phone but I can't do without s off... I'll wait patiently till my return day gets close but if we don't have it by then ill prob have to send it back.... Which sucks because its the only phone they have that's any good in my opinion
[HTC Rezound] transws6am:
I can't even return/exchange my rezound, I had an Incredible OG with extended battery on CM7, then I got a Razr on 11/11. I had the Razr for one day and found out battery life

was horrible, so I went back to Verizon and exchanged it for the Rezound with extended battery. So I'm stuck with it, I can't exchange or return it now.
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
Patience is a virtue...
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Yeah that would be a disaster. I can't imagine tho that it won't be unlocked
[HTC Rezound] zetsumeikuro:
Could always buy a phone full retail and then ebay/craiglist the rezound. It is going for a decent amount online compared to the RAZR 8).
[HTC Rezound] theGross1:
A lot of good devs were on irc tonight.....
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Talking about the rezound?
[HTC Rezound] theGross1:
Yeah 5678910
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
Anything good come out of it?
[HTC Rezound] NilsP:
I hear ya.

At this point I have decided that I will probably keep this phone one way or the other. For one I got it on the 14th so I don't have the extended return option and the second is I really like the phone. Didn't have much of a choice since I did not have a phone with 3 dead Incs. Got one working now so I can support my Inc ROM's so I guess I could always go back.

I have faith we will get root and s-off :) but if not I guess my dev career is over:mad:
[HTC Rezound] douger1957:
We waited four months for root on the Incredible.

It'll come. Just give them time.

I suspect that secretly, the manufacturers really don't mind root too much. They get the best that our devs can do and a willing beta group without having to pay for it.
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
Without much advertising from VZW the public doesn't even know about this phone. My friends saw mine at a party yesterday and all I heard was

" what is a Rezound, never heard of it? ? ".

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[HTC Rezound] civicsisedan:
I saw a bunch of commercials yesterday for the rezound.

If the nexus wasn't coming out I bet everyone would be buying it.

If s off isn't acheived by janruary I might have to switch to nexus for soff and huge dev support.

Surely there will be sense roms out for nexus..
[HTC Rezound] rickbubello:
If you want root donate . Alpha rev team etc.. would be a good way to start. It cost money for these devices, they dont have upgrades every six months or buy things outright like some of us, ive gotten lucky and have gotten every single htc release minus the eris on release day plus droid x, charge etc.. some have hookups. I want root as well so im going to donate 10$ towards them getting the device and unlocking it if they say they.will work on it, will you do the same??
[HTC Rezound] jasonpantuliano:
I think all of us would donate. I know I will. Just need to know if they plan on supporting this phone
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Right now it is pretty much the best phone htc has out. It has the best screen res, out finely surpassing the iphone. I can't imagine they wouldn't
[HTC Rezound] theGross1:
Pretty quiet but at least I saw a few names that gave me hope. I remember the days of my htc eris, it took months to get root.
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
And having an evo 3d on Sprint is like not having 4g. This phone on Verizon's lte network is just a beast.
[HTC Rezound] triton302:
I'd throw in a few bucks JUST to have permanent root!
[HTC Rezound] isdnmatt:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1347779

I have no connection with Rev.io or Alpharev. I just work in the industry and know that my time costs $. So for these devs to spend their time on all these new devices deserves something.
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
I agree with donating but a lot of us have worked long hours on projects. We do it because we love it. Donating is just a great way of saying thanks
[HTC Rezound] civicsisedan:
I remember you Fernando.

Themes from incrom right?
[HTC Rezound] isdnmatt:
I completely agree. Thanks for their expensive time :).
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
I got the Incredible and Thunderbolt both on release day and it was about 2 months until we got root on either one. Why is all the talk here negitive, the phone hasn't been out a week yet.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
People are just concerned they made the right choice. Especially because of the nexus prime coming out
[HTC Rezound] AlpineM3:
With that being said, does the Rezound justify your purchase? Thoughts and or review so far would be greatly appreciated. THanks in advance!
[HTC Rezound] triton302:
I had the choice of picking any of the three, but I chose the Rezound because it fits me best for what it offers and what I want in a device. I believe I made the right choice, and I know this phone will be on the same level as the Tbolt as far as modding, but it does make it difficult when I'm used to having a rooted phone and using apps everyday that require permanent root.

That said... I have confidence in the Devs and it's just a matter of time before this phone becomes a beast.
[HTC Rezound] rfarrah:
+1

(10 char)
[HTC Rezound] ozzyager:
I absolutely agree. I'm actually very happy with the rezound so far, but after being rooted for so long it's almost painful not being able to change stuff at will. With the hardware on this phone I can't wait for some sweet modded ICS action...
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Well modding android is my hobby. Im older and i don't drink so i spend money on this. I have a dinc and evo 3d rooted and this phone which i really dig. Im embarrassed to say how many batteries and external charges i have lol. Just got my rezound batteries and charger. That and my asus g73 laptop im in nerd heaven
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
You would not be surprised to know we all have a lot of that stuff also ( phones, batteries,chargers etc.).haha

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[HTC Rezound] fernando sor:
Im sure.

I just can't see being tied to a charger and always worried about power. I never run out lol
[HTC Rezound] AlpineM3:
Sounds like the phone is legit....i'm currently on a rooted TBolt and one can honestly say that there isn't much of a difference to the Rezound (albeit hardware), but seems like dev work has just come to a screethching halt and not that I need to be constantly changing ROM's every day (which I will admit to doing on certain occasions) but just feels outdated and a lost cause so root hardly plays a hand in this case anyways.

The rezound being a dual core 1.5 ghz phone certainly is appealing as well as the beats audio integration that I would certainly welcome since i'm always listening to music while running or in the car. Just want to pick your guys' heads on wether purchasing it justify's a bit of an upgrade, but not much per say. Any info is valuable and well appreciated. Thanks in advance!
[HTC Rezound] Marcismo55:
While I know I am not answering your question...it would be more suited towards THIS thread in respect to the OP.
[HTC Rezound] AlpineM3:
You're right and I apologize......I did have a mention of root though hehe
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
The extra memory, the processor and the beats ear plugs in itself would be an upgrade.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[HTC Rezound] jasonpantuliano:
Don't know why I didn't wait. Mostly cause Verizon sent me a bionic to replace my 5th defective tbolt and i hate motorola. Wish o would have kept the thunderbolt and did wait. I love this phone and dont want tobget rid of it. I don't want a nexus or anyother phone coming out. And I don't mind waiting for root. I'm just worried HTC pulled a Motorola and we wont be able to get perm root. In the end its my fault but like I said I've been waiting for this phone since it was announced and don't want anyothers. Basically I just want confirmation that the bootloadet isn't encrypted so I will atleast know root is possible. I'm just worriedbi guess
[HTC Rezound] ftmaniac948:
Well the gn just got permaroot and the razr has had it for a while. Hopefully we are next :)

I'm living on a yellow submarine
[HTC Rezound] jbh00jh:
I did not have any problems with my Thunderbolt and had 3.5 on it but I would rather have this phone unrooted than the rooted TBolt.

Having 380 to 440mbs free memory compared to 190 to 300 free is really great and every thing runs so much smoother. I don't care if it takes 3 months to root this phone, I can wait because I really like this phone.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
[HTC Rezound] pwned3:
With chingy getting one shipped to him s-off could it be reverse engineered to provide a use able root method?
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
How do you know it is being shipped to him with S-Off? But, if he has it, he should be able to cook something up.
[HTC Rezound] reverepats:
Ahh he had it a couple weeks ago I believe. There's a SS of him with the phone showing he's got S-Off. Bastard lol....I'm j/p....
[HTC Rezound] narcco:
Wanted to thank everyone that is working S-off.
[HTC Rezound] computerfreek:
I do not have my phone yet but I was looking on here and I have not seen any post as to if on htcdev.com site when you click unlock bootloader on there has anyone tried.

"fastboot oem get_identifier_token"

Just to see if it gives you a token ? I know it will not send you the unlock_code.bin file via email . But I list to know if at least the phone gives you the token?

Sorry if this has already been asked!

I just hope someone at HTC leaks the info... lol
[HTC Rezound] narcco:
Anyone know if there would be a way to take one of the phones that got shipped with S-off make a copy of the entire phone then replace it one the one that has S-on or is it something within the hardware
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
Yeah I get the token. Paste it into HTCdev and get Error: CID not allowed
[HTC Rezound] narcco:
I found on another forum where someone said they got S-off, after reading all the pages they never gave an answer as to how the managed to do it.

http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?9680-S-Off-Rezound-!
[HTC Rezound] dmeadows013:
Yeah Chingy's was shipped to him S-Off
[HTC Rezound] disconnecktie:
I know what I'm about to say is off topic but ppl are complaining about HTC locking bootloaders when it is actually Verizon's doing. Just like Motorola did with the razr... it's unlocked in other countries but locked in America.
[HTC Rezound] Superguy:
Last I heard even the international RAZR's are locked until ICS comes out for it.

Locking and encrypting bootloaders are 2 different things.
[HTC Rezound] WorldOfJohnboy:
Anyone know if the XTC Clip will work on the Rezound? I will buy one in a heartbeat if so, cause this Temp Root is killing me (not working). I seriously just want to restore my App data and no matter what, I can't get the Temp Root to stick long enough to do a damn thing.