yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Defy Android Development] cdlq456:
reboot from bootmenu -> cpu settings -> scaling -> choose smartass
[Defy Android Development] minomarimat:
why do I feel like the 7-11 update's laggier than the 7-5 one? I did clear cache - dalvik cache - clear cache again. Am i missing something? Because I know that the latest nightly is HWA enabled by default. :(
[Defy Android Development] AlexGraves:
Same here ... I felt the Epsylon build July 10 and 11 are slightly slower than July 5th ... :confused:

That is why I am back with build July 5th ...
[Defy Android Development] rishi2100:
No sound when playing music... tried various music players.

Although ringtones and alarms are working fine

Any solution?
[Defy Android Development] taruntyagi1981:
+1

looks like next build should come with restricted HWA to improve speed .. else it's tough to use fullHWA .. :rolleyes:
[Defy Android Development] mdsaif92:
New nightly http://defy.wdscript.fr/CM9-NIGHTLY-120714-Defy.zip
[Defy Android Development] minomarimat:
wait.. the 7-5 build already had full HWA right? And it went smoother than the latest build, IMO. Here's a simple trial I did earlier: Anyone familiar with the Weaphones app? When I had the 7-5 build it was running perfectly (which did not happen in earlier versions). When I flashed the 7-11 build, it suddenly got very laggy. (Emphasis on the laggy part. And it also lagged within the homescreens, too. :(

So I was wondering if it was actually the full HWA that caused these. :/

Disclaimer: this is NOT a bug report. I just merely reported a difference.
[Defy Android Development] donP73:
changelog

changelog? :confused:
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
HwaSettings to blacklist apps by Royale1223, Fix some of the brocken video formats
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
Apparently we got HWA settings app to choose what we want to see accelerated, everything seems to be enabled by default.

But according to http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/hardware-accel.html apps should be telling when to use hardware acceleration, so we shouldn't need this app?

EDIT: adding a big thanks to Epsylon3 for his work!
[Defy Android Development] jassi32:
Hmm, will update and let you all know about the performance and other things in 24 hours...

Below is my battery usage .....I love the 11july build :D:D:D:D
[Defy Android Development] G00fY2:
Yes, I thought so too. Maybe Epsylon can enlighten us.

Seems like we may get ION memory manager soon.:) I excited about if it will increase performance.

PS: I'm very happy, that Epsylon still works on our defy. Even though he has started to work on the Galaxy R.
[Defy Android Development] Epsylon3:
:) i'm multitask... but no jb work on the defy yet for me, Quarx will do it :) I'll help him later if required, but that seems good... Galaxy R CM7 is almost ready, and then i will work on JB for it too :)
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
to avoid using 3rd party app for HWA, isn't it easyer to "blacklist by default" same apps that are blacklisted in Nexus S? and maybe other system persistent apps that don't need it?
[Defy Android Development] Epsylon3:
our HWA blacklist is another system of blacklist on top of default one (don't have seen this Nexus S one), if it is blacklisted in AOSP/CM9 it will stay blacklisted .... but i'm not sure of what you are talking about...

There is a developper option to force the HWA on all apps, i advise to let it unchecked... Some apps use older frameworks and are not ready for that
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
The default one is letting applications decide when to use HWA?
[Defy Android Development] G00fY2:
It is often said, that woman are best in multitasking. But you must be an exception.:D

But shouldn't we first complete RC or stable CM9 release anyway? Or do you think we better spend no more time in ICS and start over to JB? (I just ask, cause CM team announced that they will at least release one stable CM9). But either way it's nice to have Quarx getting basic stuff working. So you both can look the furhter parts after. Maybe also maniac will join, cause CM7 development will slow down especially for defy I think.

Unbelievable how fast you are. o_O

I guess it's the ICS default procedure, so yes.
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
I don't think it's in AOSP, since those apps were specifically disabled for Nexus S (because of PowerVR SGX and 512MB of RAM). I trying to find the list of apps that where "blacklisted" and how... if i find more details i'll post them here.

we need to find the rest of the list (etc)

original post
[Defy Android Development] taruntyagi1981:
My question is, with the latest build of Eppy ( 14-7 ) , can I restrict apps for HWA. If yes then can someone tell the procedure for this. Currently m on Quarx latest and it very laggy, so really waiting for a build in which only few apps run on HWA ..

Can someone update about the latest Eppy's build .. how smooth it is .. if somebody flashed it

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] Sir Flashalot:
A quatorze juillet build! You avoided a Friday the 13th version. :) Will try this one, latest builds showed increased battery usage. Still very fast and snappy. Merci beaucoup.
[Defy Android Development] ken bentley:
Hi new HWA app included just remove tick for apps you don't want accelerated
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
I'm confused, this seems to contradict http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/graphics/hardware-accel.html which make it look like we don't need to allow/deny apps, or maybe it's for different android versions?
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
no, it doesn't contradict anything, you're just a bit confused:

indeed, the apps thell when they need HWA, i just found out (few minutes ago, while searching what was disabled) that those apps in Nexus S that were blacklisted were made exactly this way, by changing this:

/res/values/config.xml

<resources>

+ <bool name="config_hardwareAccelerated">false</bool>

+</resources>
[Defy Android Development] sUpErwHoO:
New defy build, 14/7

http://defy-cm.net/defy-cm9-nightly/CM9-NIGHTLY-120714-Defy.zip

Defy ICS- In your face MOTO
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
What confuses me is why we need to use a blacklist when apps developers can specify if their app needs HWA or not
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
we used to use the blacklist function when we had problems with HWA,

now we use it because we didn't disabled HWA in cofig.xml of those specific (system) apps that don't need it. I think this is only temporary (until the memory consumption is better managed)
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
In the meantime.... Anyone can make a list of apps to be disable with hwa settings app from royale??? Because I think it's a very good feature that many of us are not using yet, losing the possibility of increased performance...

Enviado desde mi MB525 usando Tapatalk 2
[Defy Android Development] royale1223:
Some good news about memory usage. Epsy seems to be working on The Android ION memory allocator for OMAP3. https://github.com/tpruvot/android_device_motorola_jordan/compare/edaae8154e...af21331ff7
[Defy Android Development] Pekempy:
Smartass = SO FAST!!!

Sent from my Motorola Defy (MB525) Red Lens running Epsylon3's CM9 with full HWA through XDA Premium.
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
I disabled everything that doesn't involve fancy animations or video and rebooted, seems to me it's more responsive now but it could also be due to the reboot.

A list of apps to be allowed hwa would probably be shorter than a list of apps to be denied, especially the system apps
[Defy Android Development] the-xda-guy:
The latest build is amazing work perfectly. No bugs for now
[Defy Android Development] prax31:
whats new in 14july12 build?

i mean change log?
[Defy Android Development] hsrars-d:
Changelog has always been HERE!
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
What is this?? Everyone talkling about and how to do that??
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
again.... it's a cpu governor... read some previous post and you will find a more extensive answer

Enviado desde mi MB525 usando Tapatalk 2
[Defy Android Development] F.Ace:
Changelog.

Sent from my MB525 using CM9 Rocks :D
[Defy Android Development] Chelsea888:
I found that my defy is drain by the networkstats via betterbatterystat, anyone experienced the same and have a solution?
[Defy Android Development] krlox_rokr:
well i can say that this nightly is more smooth than the previuos version, trebuchet is fast., i don't know but 3g feels more fast, i hope don't have drops :/, the effects on the camcor can be enable but when you press rec FC, in the previous when you enabled any efect the screen get small...and fc ... i happy with the update...

and what apps do you recomend to uncheck on blacklist on hwa app?

bro i don't understand your problem at all, but 3g always suck your battery, try disabling synch in apps that don't need it
[Defy Android Development] Chelsea888:
I have only use 2G as it is on idle, the problem of me is the android system keep waking, and which is caused by networkstats and I got no idea on it, so I decided to ask it here for a solution.
[Defy Android Development] Pekempy:
[Red Lens MB525]

As with all CM9 builds, I still don't have a fully working camcorder on my phone.

I can record videos.. up to 30 seconds.. after that when I stop the recording my phone freezes and Camera force closes.

I've tried with multiple applications..

My install procedure from this morning:

>Wipe Data

>Install CM9 14 July nightly

>Install GApps

>Install TWRP (touchscreen recovery)

>Wipe cache/dalvik

>Reboot

Camera works. Panorama works. Camcorder partially works (up to 30 seconds).

I've even tried wiping camera app data/cache..

Does anyone have a solution? PLEASE!

Phone info if anyone needs.. [EDIT] - just noticed it says GB kernel... could that be the problem?

https://photos-4.dropbox.com/psi/20...00/c3f850d/Screenshot_2012-07-14-16-36-23.png

EDIT: Re-flashed Kernel from HERE then re-installed the nightly. Still displays as the same kernel version, but I managed to save videos of 2 + 3 minutes, however once it reached 5 minutes it force closed again.
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
another interesting fact... please read it:

edit: original post
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
interesting indeed, so all this time battery calibration was an urban legend! could you link to the source please?
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
done
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
Ummm not much... still works for adequate battery level measure...

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[Defy Android Development] prabs99:
Wifi Calling??

Just downloaded and installed it last night. I noticed that there is no wifi calling app. Is this planned or is it not supported??

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] fioda:
Anyone can check if Netflix app is working fine? Thx
[Defy Android Development] Pekempy:
I would If I had an account.

At the above poster, I'm not sure if any wifi calling app will be added. I think epsy is focusing on his new phone CM7 for now.
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Quarx JB for Defy Froyo!!!

http://quarx2k.ru/cm10-nightly-defy/CM10-20120714-NIGHTLY-jordan.zip

*ITS FLASHABLE ZIP!!!*
[Defy Android Development] starbright_:
LTO download for fast GPS fix

@developers:

would you please add the fix for LTO download to support GPS. It contains data valid for GPS support of 7 or 31 days.

See here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1563534

Manics CM 7.2 roms include this already and it is a great help:

http://www.android-hilfe.de/custom-...genmod-7-android-2-3-7-a-529.html#post3357741

A short feedback would be nice. It's worth to implement - boost fix time!!
[Defy Android Development] TheYama:
New version is cool, but wifi download speed is too slow...
[Defy Android Development] Chelsea888:
Anyone could do e a favor?
[Defy Android Development] TheYama:
Working for daily use, or test version with many lags and fcs? :)
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
it's not draining much on mine, but I unplugged it less than an hour ago
[Defy Android Development] Chelsea888:
Could you mind to give me some exact number?
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
42s, count 72, 0.8%, since 1h30
[Defy Android Development] elyashiv1994:
i think i have BUG:

when i install app from play\another sources the phone get stuck for few secs and it show: "system procces stop working" i prees wait and all work fine after it....
[Defy Android Development] AlexGraves:
Just installed the latest Epsylon3 build (0714) ... Very smooth so far. No lag detected.

MP4 movies also play smoother ...

Very nice work, Epsylon ... Very nice ... :D
[Defy Android Development] donP73:
excuse me...

:o I know this is not the appropriate place but...

Someone of you had tried to modify the status bar to have a semitransparent one (with UOT kitchen or similiar)?

I would love that... ;)
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Only camera, sound, video,GSM are not working, and few soft reboots! Except that its great for daily use!
[Defy Android Development] Hairo The Blue Mage:
sorry, but... no GSM = no daily usage...
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
I was joking :rolleyes:
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
it's stable enough for daily use... i use it since 5th july
[Defy Android Development] Kaffeekranz:
I very much doubt that.
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
why would you say that?
[Defy Android Development] prabs99:
Wifi Calling??

Is there any ICS ROM for the Defy that has the Wifi calling?
[Defy Android Development] Chelsea888:
Unluckily I got almost 10min for an hour use.
[Defy Android Development] measel:
he was refering to cm10. ;)
[Defy Android Development] TheYama:
Yeah, cool, its for daily use in prehistoric time, when we call by telephone booth and navigate by paper map and real compass :D
[Defy Android Development] zyxwvut:
There isn't a single custom rom that has Wifi calling.

edit: official cm 7.2 has wifi calling, maybe others too, I was unaware of this at the time of my post
[Defy Android Development] elyashiv1994:
Someone?

seny from my cm9 defy
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Update: Camera works now
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
Quick video for those who haven't tried it yet

[YOUTUBE]22RV5T-Gq3Y[/YOUTUBE]
[Defy Android Development] Sir Flashalot:
Do you mean Wifi calling using a SIP account?
[Defy Android Development] aribis:
Epsy i am on your 11th July build...one concern is that Quarx has the 480x840 vid rec enabled in his ROM...i think you should also enable it...plz add that in your next otherwise awesome ROM.

Ari@GreenDefy
[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
Netflix does not play videos currently. Just gives a black screen, goes to 2 seconds and stops. No audio either. Newest Netflix app is compatible with ICS though, it's working on other phones. You can still browse titles, queue stuff for later, read details, just not watch anything.

Green lens 525 Defy, Epsy 7-14 ICS
[Defy Android Development] measel:
1.

Autobrightness doesn't work here... and no button back light except when changing button backlight settings. Stops working after reboot (and no dim at all).

Sensor works (tested w AndroSensor app).

2.

connection bug eben worse than in cm7. happens more often

ICS 12-07-11, bayer

/edit: button backlight works now, after restoring nandroid. but still not light sensitive
[Defy Android Development] jpchopper:
Wi-Fi calling:If you mean the T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling, not yet...maybe after we get a RC. Some of the CM7 ROMs have it now, and with our developers, almost anything is possible.

Netflix: I'm getting the same issues, hope a fix comes through, though.
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
and sip calling works? never finded where to add an account
[Defy Android Development] jpchopper:
Haven't tried sip, yet, but you can set it up under phone settings (hit menu button from dialer, scroll down, the account setup is toward the bottom)

Hope this helps
[Defy Android Development] casouzaj:
Launch the dialer. Then, press 'Menu > Settings'. Slide down to 'INTERNET CALL SETTINGS', select the way you want to use your SIP account(s), by tapping 'Use Internet calling'. Then, tap 'Accounts > ADD ACCOUNT'' and fill in your SIP provider data. You can specify as many different providers you wish (one account per provider). I have 4 accounts there. Anyway, when you finish entering your data, tap 'SAVE'.

Hope it works for you.
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
It did :D thanks!
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
I am using latest build.. i changed cpu setting to smartass, now my mobile is very fast and i am having more free ram..226

Thank you Epsylon for making bad ass to smartass.
[Defy Android Development] minomarimat:
Hmm. Why am I still experiencing a bit of lag in some apps? :( Is it because of the removal of the whitelist from build.prop?
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
latest build uses a HWA Settings app allowing you to choose which applications get accelerated. By default everything is selected so everything uses more RAM, you have to remove HWA on everything that doesn't involve fancy animations or video, which is most of the apps. After doing that the phone becomes much more responsive, at least it did for me.

Let's hope this system is a temporary band aid as normally apps themselves specify if they need to use HWA.
[Defy Android Development] minomarimat:
Hold on, I'm a bit confused. If HWA is enabled by default for all apps with the latest build, then why does it lag for my apps (I used my Weaphones app as basis, since it lagged before HWA was finally enabled with 0705 build, but lagged again with the latest builds)? My phone was responsive in terms of app launchers and homescreens with almost-buttery-smoothness, but lags with some of my apps.

But hey, thank you so much for your reply. :)
[Defy Android Development] meilbox:
because some apps doesn't support it, or are badly written.
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
Because HWA enabled apps use more RAM (something in the lines of 8 megs iirc), and it adds up quickly especially with system apps, so in the end the phone is slowed because it doesn't have enough memory.

On my phone with everything using HWA I was always below 100 megs of free ram showed in OS Monitor, down to values as low as 60 megs. After disabling it for apps that don't need it I'm almost always between 100 and 150.

And also what meilbox said, some apps don't run well with HWA.
[Defy Android Development] Bleak3993:
on the new HWA settings, what apps should i un-select? i mean, i dont really know wich one needs HWA or not
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
On mine I disabled everything but camera app, trebuchet, maps, gallery, youtube, barcode scanner, mappy gps, animated wallpapers (which I don't use anyway), and so far it's really smooth and responsive. You probably don't have the same apps than me installed so you got to adapt, if an app uses video or has a bit fancy animations it probably could use HWA. If you're unsure about a particular app just test with or without see which performs better, if there's no difference you can disable it.

One thing I forgot to mention, I think a reboot is necessary once you made your changes to system apps so they reload without hwa
[Defy Android Development] AlexGraves:
i'd like to add to that ...

also you can see which app is running well with either HWA enabled or disabled.

For example, speedtest does not run well with HWA enabled in my phone ... the graphic chart would go all white when HWA was enabled for it.

after disabling HWA, it went back to normal.
[Defy Android Development] Bleak3993:
Okay, thanks, i'll try those settings
[Defy Android Development] Kaffeekranz:
I've read that before and it makes me wonder... how many apps do you have installed?

For me, even with HWA enabled for everything, the free ram, during my normal daily routine, never goes below 200mb.
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
I guess you're looking at the free ram reported by the stock application infos, the free memory shown by OS Monitor differs from it, no idea why they don't report the same numbers.

I have about 32 installed apps.

EDIT: maybe the stock application info counts RAM occupied by cached processes as free ram?
[Defy Android Development] AnTerNoZ:
my free ram with 170apps intern and 34apps on sd only around 84mb with hwa for all. but it works all fine

Defy mit Android 4.0.4 CM9 RockZ
[Defy Android Development] enricodg:
with 150 apps my phone is laggy, have a 80-95 free ram. I go back to cm 7.2 phone is too fast and 200mb free ram... cm9 for me is yet not compatible with massive and multitask use.
[Defy Android Development] StillesWasser:
Is there going to be a version of the 14/07-release for the defy+? I'm currently on latest quarx, but it doesn't allow to disable hwa for any app. I think thats the reason for occasionly heavy lags. I could revert to epsys 06/07-release but then i would miss out on the hw-accelerated video.
[Defy Android Development] qaqarox:
No mobile networks

I have installed Eppy's 1207 CM9 build. CM9 is installed as a virtual system through multiboot [ver 6.1].

In CM9, the phone is not able to detect any mobile networks. When I try to manually search networks, the following error message pops up immediately - "Error while searching for networks". I do not have any such problem in CM7. Any thoughts on what the problem could be?

My network is Vodafone, India.

Thanks in advance!
[Defy Android Development] Kaffeekranz:
150 apps would be a complete overkill for me though. How many of those do you even use regularly?
[Defy Android Development] josuearisty:
I would like to know how to disable apps, I used hwa selector but I saw no different, what should I use instead.

Thanks!
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
You should use HWA selector... did you disable it on a lot of apps?
[Defy Android Development] josuearisty:
No, I just disabled around 7 or 8 apps.

Does the correct method to use it is just clicking on the apps I want to be blacklisted by hwa?
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
most apps don't use HWA, check my posts on the previous page, you only need to keep a handfull of them with hwa on.

you need to uncheck to blacklist (you get a little message when changing)
[Defy Android Development] josuearisty:
Is there a new HWA selector? where can I find it? I think I tried one which was not HWA selector (I mean it was almost the same) but I could not make it work as it should.

I think the rom needs to support it also, who do I know if my rom does? Is there something in the build.prop?
[Defy Android Development] tarekh020:
System settings takes about 110 mb ram now , how to blacklist it cause it kills my enjoyment of cm9
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
I use epsylon3's latest nightly (20120714) and hwa selector is included and working in it
[Defy Android Development] kHron0S:
For anyone that uses Smartass governor and overclocks his cpu over the 1000 MHz watch out that u need to increase the smt_up_min and the smt_wake_up tho the oc-ed value otherwise it will ramp up just to 1000 MHz, boosted seems to not have this problem but for me the performance and the animations runs much worse with it, at this time i run at 300/900/1100/1300 with vsels 20/42/54/67 and smartass and it fixed my Apex lag and the crt off animation on red defy with quarxs 9.07 defy plus nightly with the dht22 kernell mind thai its most likely that you will have a worse battery consumption and low deep sleep mode (mines nevwe goes too deep sleep when I have the wifi on).

Sent from DefyX RED.
[Defy Android Development] minomarimat:
So how do you adjust and up to what level do you adjust those values that you mentioned? My Defy's OCed at 500/800/1200 with smartass gov.
[Defy Android Development] AlexGraves:
i only switch to smartass whenever i want to show-off my ICS powered defy to my friends ... :D:D:D

even though smartass makes my defy fly (really smooth performance i must admit), but battery consumption just does not justify ... :)

ondemand is perfect for daily use ...
[Defy Android Development] maroxxx:
nice one so if i'm on BOOSTED mode and i have overclocked my defy ti 1100 i've to set other value to work properly ??

Defy green lens froyo kernel