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[Defy Android Development] mick711:
Hello i see your operator is orange like me but me in france, i use basebande switcher and choose France Orange but no signal . I disable with CM7 PIN code of the SIM .

Can anyone help me ? Or i wait for more stable built .

For the moment it's very nice i like ICS on Defy THANKS to ALL Dev for this OS !
[Defy Android Development] faiz02:
slight probs with wifi.. can not detect adhoc n/w.
[Defy Android Development] iammodo:
I didn't change anything just network works, not data though.
[Defy Android Development] donP73:
battery bugs

And, what about the wrong percentage when charging in off-mode? Have you ever tried? If you turn off your Defy at 19% and plug in your charger, it starts at 45% ! :eek:
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
You people are funny!

In first: "We want full HWA!!!"

These days: "We want HWA limited only to certain apps!!!"

I'm just sayin...no hard feelings!
[Defy Android Development] joydeep1985:
lol cdnt help smiling at this comment ... . haha... really its no point if we want HWA only to restrict for some apps .....
[Defy Android Development] :
wow, lots of posts about battery bugs and stuff, maybe its because you haven't dont a fresh install, and if its a common bug, dont worry it will be solved by epsy with the eyes closed!

by the way.. what is the problem with full hwa enabled? higher performance but higher battery drain? ^^
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
8MB more RAM usage per app.
[Defy Android Development] ennarr:
well said!
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
I love HWA, for the first time I have changed launcher pro for apex, thanks to HWA, also scrolling is miles of way ahead, and Its probably needed for project butter (just by looking at the videos I'm drooling, can't wait for the release of 4.1), BUT, lets be honest, some apps are a little bit more heavy than before, and I don't see any speed up from running them with HWA, if we already have the structure, and the code for doing it, then why not?.
[Defy Android Development] regenboognl:
panorama keeps chrashing , even if i move slowly or really quick.. it freezes my phone completely.

Got a MB525 red lensed defy but with MB526 CM9 kernel. Latest build.
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
No issues for me..just make factory reset and you are good to go!

Also to add:

I read somewhere that making hwa blacklist=0 and hwa whitelist=0 (NOT NONE, BUT 0) will remove hwa errors
[Defy Android Development] androidtester80:
New build by quarx :good: http://quarx2k.ru/cm9-nightly-defy/CM9-NIGHTLY-120707-Defy.zip

and no more that nonsense with hwui whitelist or blacklist : HWA works! get used to it!
[Defy Android Development] paulle:
new build

<<New build by quarx http://quarx2k.ru/cm9-nightly-defy/CM9-NIGHTLY-120707-Defy.zip

and no more that nonsense with hwui whitelist or blacklist : HWA works! get used to it!>>

you tested the build?
[Defy Android Development] maccboy2010:
Is this for the defy or the defy+? Thanks. :D
[Defy Android Development] regenboognl:
Defy!
[Defy Android Development] maccboy2010:
Thanks :D
[Defy Android Development] hsrars-d:
U know that there is a button for that......

But, how is quarx build?
[Defy Android Development] paulle:
new build

go to http://quarx2k.ru.. there should be for defy and defy+
[Defy Android Development] kadopt:
You guys are getting the wrong idea about hwa. The main problem was that hwa was not working properly because of ancient drivers and that was fixed with the new drivers. Now apps work fine with hwa (generally). The new issue is that hwa uses lots of memory and that may reduce overall performance of the device. The next step is to use a system that allows or blocks hwa usage (similar to hwa selector app) on specific apps to reduce memory usage as those apps may not gain anything from using hwa to draw their interface. "Just my 2 cents"
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
100% agree, maybe we should take a look at the aosp for the nexus S, since, as stated before, that device have the same amount of ram as our defy, and also it has disabled HWA for specific apps, (done by the google engenieers!)
[Defy Android Development] swapnil360:
5 July Epsylon build is quite great for me. No issues with it.

What's new in quarx's build other than the HWA blacklist and whitelist thing?
[Defy Android Development] krlox_rokr:
i read in some part that apex make that some apps runs bad, then i delete apex because panorama was working at 80% for me and if i did a full pano , phone freeze and reboot, now i open the cam and panorama is working 100% with a bit of lag but don't get fc.

so.. i can say that apex isn't working good with other apps :(
[Defy Android Development] sonrics1993:
FIFA12

Sure about "no issues"??...

Play FIFA12...with rainbow grass....
[Defy Android Development] Shubhamqweasd:
ahahha well said :D

HWA is working , get used to it :D

i personally dont feel any need to black list any app ,

after using my phone for about 2hrs , it feels a bit tired ( not laggy to say )

then i just use a task killer for that situation :D

my free ram always stay above 150 ..( unless watching a flash video , or playing any games ).

---------- Post added at 03:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:00 AM ----------

hmm , after reading your comment , i immidiately tried using panorma (i use APEX launcher )..

and it worked fine as it should ( without any fc's)..

i then tried 3-4 more times , and it kept working decently :D

so far i have no complaints from this HWA build , except for 1.. the DIALER ( switching from dialpad to contacts and recent calls fells a bit jery ) :P
[Defy Android Development] tone0511:
Have you tried playing games with this build? I have tried Sprinkle and Sprinkle Jr. but they don't work. They used to work with previous builds, before this HWA thing became so popular. Is there a trick to make these games work? Thanks.
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
Strange, I tested sprinkle the demo and it worked fine.

A good trick to speed up the rom, is to re-odex it using titanium back up, try it guys!
[Defy Android Development] Shubhamqweasd:
any1 tried quarx ROM ?? any changelog or new things to be observerd >>?
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
re-odex using titanium back up ?? what it mean??
[Defy Android Development] YaPeL:
There is more info on the original thread, Oddly, I have never seen an odex rom for our defy, or a good mod to odex it, I tryed a couple for other phones but they didn't work (only te titanium backup).

Before you do it, clean your memory, and try to open the sms app, after you do the mod, do the same, and see the difference, you may also want to add your launcher app as a system app before re-odexing.

edit: I think some other custom roms do a zipaling that also makes apps faster, but dunno which one is better, or how to perform it.
[Defy Android Development] hackergnome:
This is Human Psychology!

Always finds something wrong!
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Sprinkle works!

nogoodusername what did you mean by that?
[Defy Android Development] Shubhamqweasd:
i think he meant that ,

HUMAN beings seek MISERY in the hour of greatest happiness :D
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
I got it in the meantime!

Brain freeze ATM :D
[Defy Android Development] krlox_rokr:
well, i install apex again but before i clear camera data and now works:confused:, and the switch is fast for me i mean normal like always.....
[Defy Android Development] INZANEDUD:
thanks for your explanation, i followed each step carefuly, but i still see my videos in black and white :(
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Reinstall entire ROM
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
i really dont get whats wrong with trying to help to make a rom better. we are of course happy that hwa works and we can use apps like chrome, but just like the nexus s, we only have 512mb ram, and that might not be enough for some people. the nexus s has hwa disabled by default, so why the fuzz about us wanting to disable hwa for a few apps that dont need it thus freeing some ram >> better multitasking? so no, this is not because how human psychology works, its simply that full hwa needs more than 512mb ram to run properly and still perform good at multitasking.

sent from my cm9 defy...
[Defy Android Development] kapil_dheer:
strange Behaviour

I downloaded Epsylon's 5 july nightly & installed over 7.2rec3.

Install worked well.

tested with a restart & restart was o.k.

I'm in inida so changed the baseband.

Since then, blue LED gets on , then green led.

Then the phone restarts & continues endlessly.

Had to restart with installation again.

This time installed BBS4.1 & again selected inida.

Again same happening.

Why is this & how to sort this out.
[Defy Android Development] 5pace:
Take out the battery for 5-10 seconds, re-insert it and it would boot up normally.
[Defy Android Development] :
I installed 0705 over 0617.

I enabled full HWA as per earlier posts in the thread.

After a couple of days I was really struggling with lag and slowdown with ~35MB free memory remaining. This is the stated problem with full HWA.

However, I realised then that I had forgotten to re-supercharge the phone.

I have now re-supercharged and seem to be doing much better on performance. It has made a much bigger difference than it used to (when on cm7.2 with less going on eg emails, calendar, etc).
[Defy Android Development] regenboognl:
how to clear camera data?
[Defy Android Development] ralliartur:
No, no, no. It's custom rom available for free. Stop acting like we're having a support from Motorola. Consider Eppsy doesn't got time for testing all options. You should be happy from what we got so far. If you want to disable hwa do it on your own. I want hwa for all. I don't use many applications in background and I often kill those ones witch I don't need. I've never got trubble with ram.

Wysyłane z mojego MB525 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Defy Android Development] kanpurite:
Go to setting ,app ,manage applications ,select camera then clear data.
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
you completely musinderstood me. im very happy with what eppy and quarx did for us in the last 1.5 years, if it wast for them, i wouldnt be a moto defy owner anymore. i wanted to buy a new phone which has full hwa and official support, but the news that eppy made full hwa possible on the defy made me rethink and im staying with this community for a little longer. its just that a lot of us have ram issues which can be solved, then why not do it? you may not use that many apps and you dont need much ram, but many do.

if we follow your logic then all of us should just shut up and be happy with what we have, and noone can complain about bugs or issues. is that so?

no, xda is a community which helps developers make their roms more and more stable and bug free, thats what we do. and the goal of the developers is to make a rom for everyone. so for all of you people who hate on us: please let us be and figure out a way for ourselves, if this doesnt concern you, then dont interrupt us. ignorance is bliss.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
do you mind to tell me how to activate supercharger on DEFY ICS CM9 Epsylon3?

because i'm facing low memory (RAM) too..

yes, i saw supercharger thread but i failed to understand how to install it on defy.

thank you very much..

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[Defy Android Development] one2wan:
This link : ICS OOM Priority Charger

1. Upload your /system/framework/services.jar

2. Download patched services.jar

3. Replace on your Defy the old services.jar by new patched

4. Wipe cache+Dalvik cache
[Defy Android Development] merhans:
Its more easy. The supercharger update 9 RC 9 can do it without webapp. Just check out option 25
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Well i use multitasking alot and i always

have 256MB RAM free(20+/-)

Well...you guys have hwa selector and build.prop editing...so use those instead of complaining!

EDIT:

Little birdie whispered to me that we might get app2sd support (official) in the next nightly!
[Defy Android Development] TJKV:
Well first install the Script Manager from the market. Then download the latest script (will be downloaded as a .pdf, change extension to .txt) and put it on your SD card. You can download it from here

1. Run the SManager app, navigate to where you put the .txt script, click on it.

2. Press the skull icon to give the script root

3. Press the run button to run it.

4. Read along, it'll ask you if you want to enable some four things that the script can do every time you boot into the phone, choose whatever you want. I enabled everything, no problems here.

5. Finally after what seems ages, it'll display 33 options. Then another part that tells you what percent of supercharging is done, and then it'll let you enter 1-33 to choose one of the 33 options.

NOW you can do some "supercharging", but first:

6. Choose the ICS Service center option so the script can do some important patching of "services.jar" if required.

7. Then choose some option under 512HP (Basically ideal options for phones with 512 MB of RAM). The multitasking option is pretty good IMHO.

8. It will display lots of text, finally you can get back to the menu of 33 options.

Now the script has some additional features, like "Bulletproof Apps". Basically you can choose a few apps, and the script will configure the OS such that those apps will not be killed at anytime. I use this on my dialer app and the phone app. Before doing this, it used to take ages to launch the dialer app, press the call button, and wait for the phone app to take over and actually call. So check out the other features slowly and use them if you like :) Everything the script does is reversible from within the script itself, so pretty safe to use I guess. The difference it has on my phone i pretty amazing. The only thing that still lags now is launching apps the first time or after it has been killed. Even the running apps thing that comes up after long pressing the home key is much faster.

But I have a feeling that the four things that I enabled initially when the script ran for the first time is slowing down my boot time, but it may be enhancing the performance of my phone too so I don't really mind. But if you change your mind about those four things, you can toggle them by selecting the "Driver Settings" option (or something similar) out of the 33 options. This will take you through the initial setup again, and you can change the scroll speed of the text also again.
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
umm, im not complaining, i just wanted help finding those apps that run a lot in background and dont need hwa.

btw, can anybody explain how to use the hwui.allow folder? just have to put a '*' at the end of the blacklist (hwui.blacklist=*) and put separate files named by the processes in the hwui folder? (e.g.: com.anddoes.launcher)
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
I think yes....

Little birdie whispered to me that we might get app2sd support (official) in the next nightly!
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
you guys are amazing, thank you..

tejus.k.v thank you very much.

i'll try when i get home, i'm on the bus right now..

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[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
I created a thread about HWA apps not working, and public spreadsheet to edit them:

(i used spreadsheet from HWA Selector thread)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1759018
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
tried hwui.allow folder to disable hwa for some apps.

did it like this:

hwui.blacklist=*

and placed an empty file named 'com.android.settings' in /data/local/hwui.allow, and rebooted. no change, settings is still hwa.
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
Use HWA selector app....

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hxd4g2u9ex2v6rj/HWA_Selector_v1_5_beta.apk
[Defy Android Development] n0_alterNative__:
One stupid question: i don't see anymore the Trebutchet options in settings. How can i access to them ?

Greetings.
[Defy Android Development] stefa_vr6:
System Settings > Interface > Launcher....it should be there
[Defy Android Development] paulle:
epsy vs. quarx

what's the difference between latest rom of epsylon and quarx?

Anybody knows?
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
With latest build camera encounter problems sometimes asking to restart and battery percentage showing wrong..i have 15% again its showing 60% after removing again 15%..
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
No camera problems here! Reinstall entire ROM (including kernel and gapps) and 0 bugs for me (for camera atleast)!!!
[Defy Android Development] Sivaguru:
In XDA News | Locked Motorola Devices Get Full Hardware Acceleration!

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/locked-motorola-devices-get-full-hardware-acceleration/
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
On defy green lens, quarx feels a bit slower (especially in camera preview) but maybe i'm wrong
[Defy Android Development] jassi32:
i am on

cpu- 300/600/1000 ---svel --- 17/32/52 --- Smartass from more than 15 hours

posting my battery usage , which seems quit good to me ......so times after wake apex launcher takes time to draw apps .... and little bit of lag for 7-10 sec ..... after that all works smooth ........
[Defy Android Development] kanpurite:
True.

Fps seems pretty low.
[Defy Android Development] measel:
Samba

BUG:

Using Samba Filesharing app.

On CM9 it first won't ENABLE (Pop-Up with WAIT or KILL; WAIT helps), than after a short time WIFI is off and I have to toggle Flight mode.

Unfortunately no log cause I had to switch back to CM7 due to other failures (connection bug plus reboot).

Can anyone confirm?
[Defy Android Development] corrinti:
In a huge amount of posts from great HWA date :D (I was a happy one to be 'on-line' at the moment and flashed immediately after release :highfive:) I couldn't find anything on 2 funny bugs I've found.

First (I wrote about it but no answer): in taskbar widgets when I see 3G it means I am on 2G and viceversa

Second: after each reboot the ring of the first call to me is muted. Only the first one, so I just ask someone nearby to call me :cyclops: - then it works fine
[Defy Android Development] elyashiv1994:
chrome very slow when i open it...you too?
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
What build? Did you edited build.prop so hwa whitelist=0 and hwa blacklist=0?

If you didn't then DO IT! :D

No issues here...do complete reinstall..after that there must be no bugs!
[Defy Android Development] corrinti:
I just thought it might be no clean installation (my first ;-( ), thanks for confirmation. But the bugs are too funny so I will wait for next release
[Defy Android Development] 2Pints:
Not sure about anyone else, but i cant get chrome to open webpages, as it just shows a blank white screen, also BBC videos play audio, but the video is just a white bank space.
[Defy Android Development] jpchopper:
I had that problem too, until I realized I still had to enable HWA in build.prop. after that it works fine.
[Defy Android Development] elyashiv1994:
i enable full HWA...you want me to disdable it?

i on 05/07 defy
[Defy Android Development] Uyuarasy:
Oh, the last nightly build (120706) from Epsylon3 is really great. Smoother and faster then the previous, I can't experienced any issue yet. :good:
[Defy Android Development] donP73:
What are you saying?!

I DID FRESH install... ALWAYS! The battery bugs are present only in ICS Roms (when I install WIUI all back to normality).
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
NO!
[Defy Android Development] measel:
What he meant is: You don't disable full HWA with those settings but disable partial HWA and by that ENABLE full HWA.

So: Best you follow the advice. ;)
[Defy Android Development] meilbox:
@quarx build everything works great @quarx lastets build chrome and market extreem fast ;p only thing tha isnt good is the touch buttons backlight ;p it simply works randomly ;p
[Defy Android Development] 57op:
I don't know why some of you are getting stuck at ram "issue". My bro's lg optimus 2x has 512mb ram too and with cm9 and full hwa (no white/black list) it works great even if ram is sometimes very little.

Everything is smoother than on defy of course (better gpu and CPU), and this is the reason for which I will never say that defy is now fast with hwa. Objectively, even galaxy corby (gt i5500) runs cm9 faster than defy with full hwa.

This is not due to our developers, but it is due to our kernel which is old and not optimized for current builds.

I'm not complaining, ever. I use happily my (our, in general) unlucky defy.
[Defy Android Development] massdass:
hi! Thanks eppy for your support!

the fm-radio doesn't work in last nightly 0507. Have you any idea?
[Defy Android Development] UEman:
This is because you've put it in the folder for apps which are allowed to use hwa xD the folder is calles hwui.allow not hwui.deny :P i think the current white/blacklisting system is optimized for whitelisting not blacklisting ;)
[Defy Android Development] donP73:
Works for me indeed...
[Defy Android Development] paulle:
i agree 100%, we should be happy that very good developers make run cm9 (or ics) on the defy if it's not so fast it's not the fault of developers. blame motorola not devs. the devs did and do an extraordinary work.
[Defy Android Development] klickig:
Just wait for the next builds. I think the defy can get smother when everything is optimized for HWA.

Gesendet von meinem MB525 mit Tapatalk 2
[Defy Android Development] AnTerNoZ:
great news, don't think that we have to wait a long time, that epsy do the same for us :)

Defy mit Android 4.0.4 CM9 RockZ
[Defy Android Development] ennarr:
New build for Defy Froyo Kernel By Quarx!

http://quarx2k.ru/cm9-nightly-defy/
[Defy Android Development] Hairo The Blue Mage:
what's new/different to the epsylon one??
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
now supports apps2sd
[Defy Android Development] ennarr:
I Think it's App2SD ... didn't tried it yet, i'm downloading :)
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
*i'm not trolling here*

do we really need app2sd when defy has 1,2 GB internal memory for /data/ partition..?

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[Defy Android Development] defim:
Nop. I move all the silly apps which install automatically to SD back to internal memory
[Defy Android Development] 57op:
Of course we need.

I've been waiting too long for this important feature.

1,2GB is very little if you consider apk + data folders size.
[Defy Android Development] Hairo The Blue Mage:
same here, but some people might need it, who knows...
[Defy Android Development] MotorolaDefyLuke:
I'm glad we have app2sd now :) roll on official cm9 rc1 thankyou eppy and quarx you've both have done amazing for our loved defy's:)
[Defy Android Development] Gabenoid:
Does youtube feels a little laggy on Epy's latest build? HWA enabled.

And yes, we or at least me need App2SD. It's a good feature. Thanks to our awesome devs!
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
lol, really :D thx :) although i think a hwui.deny folder would be more useful...
[Defy Android Development] G00fY2:
I think some of you don't know how HWA really works. Everyone is happy that be have fully working HWA now. There is no doubt.

Hardware accelerated has always been used in Android (for animation for example). New in ICS is, that the drawing of several apps can be accelerated by GPU. Apps have to set an option to get HWA. So even we have HWA enabled, not every app uses it.

Please read this post to get the idea of diasabling HWA for some system parts, to reduce ram usage. These two posts 100% got the point.

As far as I see it right, Epsylon removed hwui whitelist implementation, but still kept the blacklist function. So when Google itself exclude some system processes from HWA on Nexus S (for example status bar, one part of UI which is nearly always there and don't need to be hardware accelerated) why not doing it the same way? We won't loose any gain by this.
[Defy Android Development] Bleak3993:
How can i move apps from internal memory to sd?
[Defy Android Development] niksy+:
That feature is included in Quarx's latest builds (uploaded a couple of hours ago), so I'm guessing that next nightlies by Epsylon will have it included, as well!