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[Defy Android Development] adiq_ambro:
I ran a script on all system apps so... here's the list of all apks in /system/app folder that are using HWA:

System Apps using HWA:

Camera.apk
Apollo.apk
Gallery2.apk
SystemUI.apk
Email.apk
DownloadProviderUi.apk
Calendar.apk
Superuser.apk
Settings.apk
LiveWallpapersPicker.apk
Contacts.apk
Browser.apk
QuickSearchBox.apk
Trebuchet.apk
DeskClock.apk

You can disable it on the rest ;) Question to developers : (Epsylon?) Will our ICS will always depend on manual lists instead of information if app manisfest ? If yes, will you try to make a pre-definied whitelists?

And another question:

does hwui.allow have bigger priority than hwui.deny?
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
great job!

I do hope this blacklist system is not going to stay or is going to be automated at least, the average user can't use it
[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
My recollection is neither the blacklist or whitelist is capable of including more than a handful of entries. 90ish character limit, I believe. So all the com.android.calendar type apps use 20 characters... you can disable possibly 5 with that length and the rest don't work.
[Defy Android Development] kHron0S:
Yeah you have to up those 2 values to 1200000 in boot menu

Sent from DefyX RED.
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
that was when the lists were in a config file, on latest versions the lists are files in a folder so there's no character limits anymore
[Defy Android Development] cgordonfreeman:
The hwui.allow and hwui.deny folders take care of that problem. No limits now.

Sent from my MB525
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
I really wish there was a defy plus build with the hwui.deny folder in action. RAM is an issue on the latest quarx+ build.
[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
Just go into HWA settings and unselect all the green men icons. There are about 30 or so of those, that should help with memory usage.
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
Or use the list on previous page of this thread to know what needs to be checked, and uncheck everything else. For your installed apps you'll have to guess if they need it though
[Defy Android Development] EdwardN:
NM, ninja'd by edited post.
[Defy Android Development] mihovil13:
I'm ordering Nexus 7, so I can't wait for WiFi tether anymore :)))))
[Defy Android Development] adiq_ambro:
As for user apps using HWA or not.. it's a bit hard to check, but achievable.

I dont know if theres a way to check apk'manifest.xml (there is an info called 'hardwareAccelerated' ) directly on phone. Surely, sdk tool 'aapt' does this, but sadly you have to do this using PC.. Developers, any ideas?
[Defy Android Development] measel:
My limited knowledge I gathered from this forum but I read that apps call for HWA themselfes so why would I have to disable the ones not using it? wouldn't it make more sense, limiting the ones which actively use it? Sorry just trying to understand!
[Defy Android Development] adiq_ambro:
Maybe it was implemented this way by our rom developers when there was a necessity to manually choose apps because of buggy HWA behaviour. I hope that it is a matter of time when they will change the way it is activated.
[Defy Android Development] adiq_ambro:
Or maybe I missed something and HWA is now properly used only when apps asks for it? I think devs should speak :)
[Defy Android Development] notes1:
I had this problem on one of my defys, only recently (711 or 714 build). My other defy worked fine on 3 networks, same rom, same baseband settings.

Clean install = Problem solved.

(wipe data / factory reset, flash 0714 zip, latest gapps, froyo kernel, clean cache & dalvik, restore apps from titanium)
[Defy Android Development] notes1:
Could you edit the script for all apps and then upload it? For me and others to use :)

Please.
[Defy Android Development] adiq_ambro:
This script needs android sdk, runs on Linux and requires a preparation before every run. In other words - its dumb and hard to use. I need to have answer from epsylon about hwa mechanism, then I will decide if there is need for a better and automated version.
[Defy Android Development] krlox_rokr:
hi, yesterday i got a terrible network issuse when i called a friend she can't heard me, i tryed call many times, until i think this is a network problem then turn off 3g just 2g mode i try to call again the same problem she can't hear, then i turn off data , woala she can listen to me. my battery die then i can't keep testing the network...

anyone with the same problem? it's the first time, it happens to me.:silly:
[Defy Android Development] Bleak3993:
someone has installed blood and glory (NR) and noticed that after unselect some apps from HWA settings when the phone is starting appears a message with "unfortunately blood and glory (NR) has stopper working" ,and i can't start the game either.
[Defy Android Development] kryptonitiko:
How about battery drain? Can I arrive at night? :cyclops:
[Defy Android Development] trevor68:
dumb question, where is it?
[Defy Android Development] tnsantos:
Epsy, will you release a final ICS version? Are there any plans? The last nightly is really close to it. Gratz and thanks!
[Defy Android Development] Hairo The Blue Mage:
is an app, look for it in the app drawer...

but if you ask me it should be on defyparts...
[Defy Android Development] hunyadia:
Search the app name : hwa settings

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[Defy Android Development] seukumeama:
for who like me , and just can't wait for CM10 , i wish share a taste of where is coming

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cm9.theme.JBstock&hl=pt_BR
[Defy Android Development] TweetyPeety:
looks totally the same as ICS ;)

Other question is this a BUG or do I am the only one. My buttons lights doesn't work on ICS.
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
Congratulations.. Think we may not see you anymore in this forum :D:D
[Defy Android Development] Anands3:
Try to change your Display Brightness it will Light up,

but it will off in some time
[Defy Android Development] ken bentley:
Tweety i have the same problem i normally toggle auto brightness and it seems to be ok
[Defy Android Development] Nemado:
We're starting to hit the limits of our old defy with CM9. It's still usable but it's not as smooth as the holy CM7.2. I guess it can't be helped. Thank you for updating our OS Epsylon.
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
Epsylon3's Yaffs Explorer got a manifest viewer, so it is possible to access it from the phone and he knows about it
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
FYI, JB build much smoother than ICS..

just try it for yourself.

but, then again, not as hell fast as CM7.. :)

Sent from TapaTalk | MotoDEFY - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.1
[Defy Android Development] aribis:
when i started my journey with Defy on eclair i never expected to run even cm9/gb ever...now after Eclair-Froyo-GB-ICS, i have tried JB and it took off from where cm9 left... i am sure its going to be the ultimate on our Defy...honestly not all things will be perfect or usable at their best... but to be able to run JB with a phone that started with eclair is legendary itself...

i am more than content...and may even cry the day i have to say goodbye to my DEFY! This is a monster of a phone...sad that Motorola didn't realize!!
[Defy Android Development] Epsylon3:
I wait a bit before doing that.. I plan to publish the system in official CM9...

Else the hwa.deny and hwa.allow folders are exclusive... I mean its a whitelist or a blacklist, not both... depending on the properties values

I don't override the Ics system... I just force off when blacklisted (process name in hwa.deny folder)
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
You mean that it already checks the manifest to know if HWA must be enabled or not?
[Defy Android Development] UEman:
Exactly, it was like this since there was full hwa ;)
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
does that mean we might get official support? and afaik phones that get official cm9, will get official cm10 too. dunno if that makes any difference.
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
mmm then if we had bad performances and disabling it made the phone more responsive that means we're hitting the defy's RAM limits I guess.
[Defy Android Development] Epsylon3:
Well hmm official will be difficult for the moment because there is not yet OMAP3 devices ....

But its not excluded... The device just fit the minimum requirements and Kernel modules can be compiled automatically (or almost)
[Defy Android Development] kanpurite:
Official ICS for Optimus Black is scheduled for 3rd quarter ,2012.

I hope it solves the remaining problems for Defy.

(CPU and GPU being the same , omap 3630 and powervr sgx 530)
[Defy Android Development] aneeshcphilip:
how to enable on screen buttons(back,home&menu)....?
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1495002
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
I have seen and told this a long time ago... I just wait for the release too...

Enviado desde mi MB525 usando Tapatalk 2
[Defy Android Development] Born_Bad:
i had a reboot and a freeze with the latest build (120714-Defy).

went back to 120711-Defy and no problems so far.

anybody else with reboots/freezes? not sure if its the build or my phone since i am using lower VSELs.

edit: yes, i cleared cache and dalvik.
[Defy Android Development] paulle:
stable

with the latest build (120714-Defy) no problem, all stable.
[Defy Android Development] Dabrinho:
I found problem for my laggy launcher and everything in cm9, facebook app uses more then 100 mb ram even when I don't use it:-/ uninstalled it and now phone shows 190-200 mb free all the time and everything runs smooth :-)
[Defy Android Development] no1chan:
how is the battery drian for 0714 ver?

mine seems to be a littile bit.

governor: ondemand

clock: 300mhz@22vsel, 600mhz@32vsel, 1000mhz@46vsel

i think the battery drian is almost ten times when comparing to using miui v2 or wiui v2.
[Defy Android Development] nathrinder:
I have made the same conclusion: never install the Facebook app and your phone will stay fast and smooth.
[Defy Android Development] RAD1XS:
Same problem!!!

EDIT: Now it works, but not always
[Defy Android Development] paradigmshift:
Is anyone else having issues with their Gmail app not syncing? I just noticed mine hasn't in the last week or so.
[Defy Android Development] marhensa:
my battery drian looks like because fb app.. :)

fb app use many battery juice according to stock battery statistic, display is the second.

Sent from TapaTalk | MotoDEFY - Android Jelly Bean 4.1.1
[Defy Android Development] RAD1XS:
Accounts & sync >> your google account >> ticket "Sync Gmail"
[Defy Android Development] manishgkasera:
Quarx new nightly

http://quarx2k.ru/cm9-nightly-defy/CM9-NIGHTLY-120716-Defy.zip
[Defy Android Development] measel:
reboot

just had a sudden reboot out of the blue.

it didn't fully boot up but stopped at "starting apps...". Had to pull the battery.

CM9-NIGHTLY-120714-Defy

Couldn't tell what caused the problem. Maybe the logcat caught something.

Sincerely.
[Defy Android Development] Hairo The Blue Mage:
if i get a sudden reboot (getting the bootanimation again), how can i get a log from it?? :confused:
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
you must have catlog or any logcat reader app running in the background.

sent from my cm9 defy...
[Defy Android Development] Hairo The Blue Mage:
it's a sudden reboot (i was not expecting it) is impossible to guess when i'll get a reboot and start a logcat reader app... lol
[Defy Android Development] hsrars-d:
What is this mediaserver??:confused::confused:

Sent from my MB525 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Defy Android Development] enricodg:
Not all 150 always but at least 80 apps during the week because I do not use the PC but smartphone forma most operations.
[Defy Android Development] Llamatron:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1583653
[Defy Android Development] Sir Flashalot:
Most probably you ran a music app?

Those having increased battery drain: try to disable HWA settings for all apps except launcher and check again. Noticed the same in Epsylon3 CM9 latest nightlies and also Quarx' CM10 JB; jumped from 0,5% to 1% when idle in the past week having flashed HWA-enabled builds.
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
no, you gotta have it running 24/7. theres no way to predict such things...

sent from my cm9 defy...
[Defy Android Development] arpith.fbi:
disconnect and reconnect ur internet..it should continue downloading :)
[Defy Android Development] hottracks4:
Lol.. Tried that already.. Can you seed? Just put the file where the torrent would normally download and then load the torrent.. And then seed.. Just for 2 mins..
[Defy Android Development] arpith.fbi:
sorry bro..i am outside..will do it when i reach home :)

but i m sure till then ur download will complete :D
[Defy Android Development] hottracks4:
Okies.. When's that? I've been downloading this all night.. -___- And this morning.. I can't download the whole thing again.. My net sucks.. :'(
[Defy Android Development] crazyjosi:
same problem for me :\ if this works i'll remove dual boot and only install ics :p
[Defy Android Development] memz180:
Yer same here cant wait to have ics on the defy
[Defy Android Development] brajesh.sharma87:
I m on dual boot with 1st december nightly and the network works perfectly ok. Made many outgoing calls and sent sms. No problem even in receiving incoming call. No call distraction or FC. Never changed baseband.

Sent from my Moto Defy
[Defy Android Development] arpith.fbi:
after a restart only 3G is working..no 2G..and with 3G battery will die fast...

and orientation sensor is working fine..but it doesnt work on homescreen..

anyone having this problem?
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
look at Epsy's post a few pages back, he did that specifically as the home app fc's in portrait... give it time, it will be fixed.
[Defy Android Development] [] AL []:
OK, not complaining here, just reporting my experience on Dec 2 nightly.

USB not working (dual boot) but wifi works very well with good speed so I used dropbox extensively to import some apks on my ICS SD cards partition: all good.

But, I found that I was getting more lag and some weird screen flashing [screen go blank and back to desktop in a loop] and other little bugs than with the previous build.

SMS and calls are fine here;

Dolphin browser crashes upon launch;

Tried to install 3 games: no luck (was expected);

Videos in Rockplayer give a blank screen but the audio plays fine;

Droidwall works although I had a few 'cannot set iptables' errors - just try again and it works;

TB is not functional for me: restore/backup or freezing apks;

Most of the time, the menu buttons stay ON when the screen is off: hello battery drain!!;

Catlogs are filled with "InputReader Fake event sent., touch=1 !" - might be because of screen rotator?;

And that's all i can think of for now; but it was just to say that I still don't see why people would want to use this as a main boot at this point. After a couple hours on ICS, switching back to CM7 is a charm and like getting into old pair of slippers :D

Rock on/peace out!
[Defy Android Development] ndanl:
I think I will stay on ICS when GPU acceleration works as I use only the phone function in 3G mode, for me would be enough ;))
[Defy Android Development] ccav2000:
I haven't tried ICS yet, nor do I plan to do so until at least the basic functions are stable. I did the same thing with CM7, waited until it reached beta stage before I even attempted to use it. If I had a second DEFY I would no doubt use it for such experiments, but as it is, I need my current one to be online and functioning.

See you when it reaches beta!
[Defy Android Development] hottracks4:
Could someone please explain why there's a torrent if there's no one seeding it?? :confused::confused: Come on guys.. Someone seed please.. :(
[Defy Android Development] brajesh.sharma87:
using it with dual boot. u will love it. its very much functional bdw.
[Defy Android Development] zjfgavin:
yes,but they means GSM data not works.

on the way,there are still some problems with calls,not very clear
[Defy Android Development] matchung:
we get direct link, why need torrent??

Download Links: http://tanguy.forumdoandroid.com
[Defy Android Development] UEman:
GPU Acceleration already works, check first post ;)
[Defy Android Development] jayeshrc:
thanks, i cant go through 60 pages of info hence didnt see those.. and yeah i did the gapps, just dont know why it wasnt insluded with the rom in the first place
[Defy Android Development] ktmbikerman:
Gapps is not included by default because of contractual reasons.
[Defy Android Development] shamo42:
My impressions with the latest nightly:

the good:

- battery life is surprisingly good

- wifi connection (channel 12) is faster and more stable then CM7.1 for me

- i love the new UI and keyboard

the bad:

- lots of FCs (especially vending.apk)

- no apps with 3D work

the ugly:

- phone gets sluggish: launcher constantly has to reload. switching between apps is sometimes painfully slow. It feels like the phone is running out of RAM fast.

- no mobile data
[Defy Android Development] jassi32:
changelog ?
[Defy Android Development] ppero196:
I have some weird 3G issue. It was running great until the yesterday, when suddenly it started showing 3G in the icon grayed out. I switched to 2G but it's the same.

I can recieve and send calls and messages normally. Did a clean install before the error!

Also i tried changing my baseband but it doesn't help!
[Defy Android Development] notes1:
Checked running apps, FB is on 12-16mb constantly. Even after reboot, with notifications and sync off.

I guess it's just stealing my personal information and contacts list and searches and location and txt messages etc.

CM9 ICS Defy MB525
[Defy Android Development] krlox_rokr:
i love this rom and the hard work of the developers but i think there is something forgot.

the network issue is really annoying, someone tell me that the issue comes because there aren't good drivers for network, i don't know if this is true but this is an important point, because this is a smartphone and the use of the phone is internet (social networks) i'm paying a data plan, and every 2 - 3 hours the 3g drops :/ sometimes every 24 hours.. i'm not saying that they have to do it, i just say that is something important that is getting forget.......i live in the north of the city and sometimes the signal of "tigo" get lost, but with the stock rom just happened 2 days after the network always be ok, yesterday a cousin was in my house and his blackberry kept without signal, and defy had signal then i think that isn't a problem of my service. :(

i love ICS and the new baby JB but i can't keep with the rom with this network issue with cm7 happens the same lost data signal :/ just with stock rom works fine :(
[Defy Android Development] zakoo2:
for those having issues with sluggish system because of not enough ram: just kill a few unused apps from recently used (long press home screen), and there you go, it works again as it should. and it really isnt that big a deal, when you switch between apps, just kill those you dont need...

sent from my cm9 defy...
[Defy Android Development] claudiobastos:
For those with network problems

try different settings in baseband switcher.

I use the operator VIVO in Brazil, wich in theory operates on 850/2100,

But my signal is much stronger when I choose a Europe Central baseband with 900/2100.

So if anyone has problems with network signal, test other baseband's.
[Defy Android Development] rokrmotolovers:
googleplay error 404

helllo

please help me I use the rom-Nightly CM9-120 714-Defy.zip and use GAPPS-ics-signed.zip 20,120,429

googleplay it's not work when donwnload 404 error notification using the 3g signal is not using wifi, please help me...
[Defy Android Development] paradigmshift:
Yeah, that's good advice. It was weird... I tried that, then uninstalled gmail and then reinstalled, cleared caches and rebooted, and it was still refusing to send. Then all of a sudden, proof. It started working. I can offer this, though: the message in question was a picture shared from quickpic to gmail. When I deleted it out of my outbox and shared it from stock gallery, it went straight away. Very odd.
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
Clear google framework cache and force stop.
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
I always force stop facebook its bulls**t app in android..
[Defy Android Development] mandhir.s.bajwa:
Ok, So it's been over a week now using this awesome ROM. so here are few things I loved and few things which needs lil more tweaks

Pros:-

Phone is super smooth

Network reception is perfect

Videos run smooth

Sound quality is brilliant

Perfect GPS

sharp images and better colors through the cam. (Earlier of GB pics used to come out lil smoth rather then sharp)

Panorama working perfect

Chrome working good. Sometimes starts to lag, But gets back to normal automatically after few seconds

Drawer and home screen transition is smooth

Radio working fine

Battery backup better then GB

Needs improvement:-

slight delay in locking and unlocking the phone

Slight delay in Dialpad and phonebook

native gallery corrupting photographs. Quickpic works fine

Even though if I have around 170+ ram free, temple Run lags and I am never able to play for more then a minute or two before the runner dies due to the lag. Tried deleting cache, App data and reinstalling.

I have to uncheck and check Data connection every half or an hour or so.

And I believe when the most difficult things have been sorted out by our awesome developers, then these should be resolved in just a matter of time
[Defy Android Development] espaciosalter20:
In Colombia, baseband works well with Colombia in Baseband Changer... but you can try with Asia/China baseband, 800/1900... That was the old workaround for "tigo" in our country
[Defy Android Development] rokrmotolovers:
ok thanks you

I am still a beginner how to clear google framework via CWM??:confused:
[Defy Android Development] hunyadia:
It's funny: here in Europe, Hungary I get a better network signal and more stable 3g when I use great Britain 3.4.3-11 baseband.

Lot of times frozen the 3g when using central European b.band. :confused:

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[Defy Android Development] ziki:
Video resolution?

Hi,

I just installed the latest nightly on the 2nd system multiboot.

Camera/video seems work fine, but I have only one question: could we change video resolution? CM7 has widescreen video, is not there in CM9?!

Thanks
[Defy Android Development] adi4motion:
it's widescreen by default
[Defy Android Development] jassi32:
one thing just to confirm ,

i can't play games like asphalt6 , hero of sparta , dungeon hunter etc .....

can't play them more than 30 sec , gets FC everytime...

( i am on 14 july build , did a clean installation back from froyo - (soft brick) ) -- did wipe data/cache and all

thank you
[Defy Android Development] ziki:
A video recorded with this CM9 results 640x480.

A video recorded in wide mode with CM7 results 848x480.
[Defy Android Development] jayanth1255:
go to settings then apps then click com.google.framework name something like google framework click that click clear cache and force close.
[Defy Android Development] minomarimat:
Has anybody noticed that with the recent CM9 builds (or probably even with later nightlies), there's a significant lag with scrolling along the homescreens when in landscape mode? I think it's weird.
[Defy Android Development] elicor:
me too :-(

Ely:confused:
[Defy Android Development] Shahmatt:
I'm planning on updating a Red lens defy, currently running on CM7.

Can anyone recommend a stable nightly version that I can make use of?
[Defy Android Development] elyashiv1994:
july 14, its very stable...all work perfect.....
[Defy Android Development] measel:
I THINK logcat has a buffer or gets cached somehow so you'll get a view lines from before the crash. But I might be wrong and my attached log is useless.