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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] urra901109:
Kamarush,

Thanks for your work, the kernel really helps me to play high demanding games like GTAIII on my xperia mini pro *1.6 GHz.. :)

as for the battery drain that most of the guy here is talking... i am not be able to comment anything as i just started using this kernel for less than 24h, and most of the time playing GTA3 which is a complete battery drainer. :D

but from my experience, the processor speed vs battery drain is never always *linear(is that the word?). what i mean is, if you lower the speed to the min, it *could end up draining the battery faster than it is on mid range speed. the engineer always set the processor to max efficiency which will neither compromise performance nor battery life. its something like a graph with one line pointing upward at 45degree, and another pointing down at 45degree. the point where the two line intersect is the max efficiency.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Nezbert:
I'm quite happy with this kernel at the moment because I'm not a heavy gamer and don't make a lot of phone calls in a day. With no frills CPU meter set for 122MHz < my SK17i < 1.024GHz the battery will always last enough for a working day and get charged every night.

Still, I'm look forward to the updated version. Do you know when you'll have finished testing it, kamarush?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Telemuddi:
@Nezbert and why do you use this kernel? I have the same usage then you with stockkernel and the phones standby is about 3 days!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Nezbert:
Telemuddi, I said it lasted long enough for a day of use. If I didn't put it on charge at night it would still have charge left the next morning.

With this kernel I can overclock to 2GHz on the rare occasion I play GTA. Most importantly it contains ClockworkMod Recovery, which I use often for flashing ROM and ROM tweaks/adjustments.

That's why I use this kernel Telemuddi.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] IMRAND:
R u still checking the kernel for battery drain issue

I mean your latest kernel.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Yes, i've tested a lot already; but the current one looks promising :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] RealGunjack:
So, there is no specific date yet?

Aww, waiting for a miracle since the new year... :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] IMRAND:
Yes waiting.......... upload soon.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Changelog:

V3.0

- Battery drain fixed

- USB OTG fixed

- Cifs/Nfs support removed

- New frequency table (Max. 1,6Ghz ATM)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] IMRAND:
Waiting......... Waiting......... Waiting!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Link added :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] IMRAND:
Thank you.... Thank you... Thank you!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Today i'll make the 2Ghz version too.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Nezbert:
Do we still need to flash the wireless LAN module afterwards?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
If you used V2 before, then no; because the wlan modules are the same as in V2.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] RealGunjack:
Just amazing! Great job, kamarush! Not in vain waited for! Awaiting for 2GHz version. :D BTW why two different versions for different freq? o_O
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Because in that version, will be different voltages to each frequencies.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] afeeq:
Can you tell me battery usage with this new kernel (v 3.0)?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
For me, last night (8,5hours) was ~3-3,5%
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] urra901109:
1. about usbOTG, is storage device(low powered) flashdrive etc is now working?

2. why just 1.6? some instability?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
RealGunjack tested a few weeks ago, and it's working.

I'll release a 2Ghz version too today.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] IMRAND:
Iam always the first to download your kernel kamarush.

Thanks again.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] afeeq:
Did you mean with this kernel it can hold up until 8.5 hours with a massive use or just with let the in standby mode? can you sent a battery usage image?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
I've wrote "last night" :D So i think the standby is clear ;)

I can't because i didn't make any screenshot.

Try it out and report your results.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Gustavo RD78:
Eager to see this on the Mini! :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] djarnop:
waiting to flash 2ghz version x)

Also personally 1.8 Ghz is stable for me, 1.9 might freeze VERY RARE and 2.0 its waiting to freeze xD
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] rm001:
sorry, wrong message
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] vincenzo697:
Hi and thanks. Baterry drain is worse than version 2... Not even half a day :'(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Screenshot? Batterystats?

Let me refer you to a post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1433309
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] vincenzo697:
can you check for me because i cant understand nothing!!!!! thanks
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
So this is my results :)

Usb was plugged in about 10mins, when i copied my files from sdcard.

Ondemand governor, 249-1017Mhz and baseband 64.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] feed3:
on 11pm, my battery is 56%,

when i woke up at 6.10am, battery at 51%,

sending few messages, make one call, at 7.40 am, battery at 50% (6% drop in total),

with fast dormant frozen using root uninstaller, and powersave mode from sony is activated, wifi,data,bluetooth all is off. :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] IMRAND:
Very Good battery life compare to KRsh v2

I was mainly checking with the stanby mode & not using the phone, also

a few apps where runinig at the backround like.

call recorder

go locker

go launcher

wave launcher & few more.

with these apps runing all the time in v2 the battery used to drop about 15 to 20% in about 10hrs.

But in v3 look at the screenshots.

Big Big Thanks to Kamarush & bboof for the kernel & hybrom v9 rom.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
This is my final results.

Governor: ondemand, 249-1017Mhz, baseband 64 and stock .58fw.

If the usb plug will be deducted now will be at 12%.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] djarnop:
Why you'rs after all has other drivers needed?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
2Ghz version link added
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Nezbert:
I'm using the 1.6Ghz version on HYBROM v9 with AnTuTu CPU Master Free. Firmware was flashed to 0.62 via generic SE update, then KRsH added, then HYBROM installed.

The AnTuTu widget doesn't display very low speeds on my home screen. I've got it set between 134Mhz and 1.017Ghz and it only sometimes gets down to 364Mhz. A lot of the time it's at 1.0176 :confused:

I'm using smartassv2. I'd like to know if anyone else is sucessfully using AnTuTu with KRsH?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
I'll test this too now. Maybe the governor is misses the clockspeeds, because i've changed there the freqs too.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] xachiel:
playing now the 3.0 KRSH kernel 2 GHz v., and the battery consuption is 6% in 8 hours deepsleep. :)

its getting better now. usually all the sk17 custom kernel (including KRSH 2.0 and rage kernel 2.1) had a 20%-24% battery drain in 8 hours. now only 6% in 8 hours. great job!

miss my X10 with 1% battery drain in 8 hours deepsleep. :l
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] feed3:
Krsh 2ghz version, battery drop 2% in 7.5 hours during sleep which is the same with 1.6ghz version. Overclocked to 1.4ghz just to see if over/underclocking have effect during deepsleep but it seems just the same.

When i defrost fast dormant, 1 hour sleep already consume 2% of my battery. I think that is the culprit. It wakes up my device almost 900times in that 2 hours sleep. Maybe if im using another kernel, i might get the same result with freezing/defrosting that fast dormant package but im too lazy now to test.

Thanks for the kernel, kamarush.. :-)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Nezbert:
I'm using the 1.6Ghz kernel and this morning I was still on 92% from yesterday morning. That's about 24 hours, although I have only sent and recieved about two texts and quickly scrolled through the menus on my phone, so it hasn't really been used in that 24 hours. I'm impressed. :)

I've got AnTuTu CPU Master set between 134Mhz and 1Ghz, smartassv2, and even though the widget doesn't report clock speed correctly I think it's working OK.

About an hour ago I installed Evernote and logged in, then sent and recieved a text. I'm now on 87%. I'm gonna uninstall Evernote and just use the web version when I need it.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] christian_a_torres:
Hello, after installing v3 I cant seem to enter CWM :confused: no matter how much i press the power button after starting the phone I cant enter... cant install the wlan modules :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] feed3:
Should be the volume down button, not the power button. Power button to enter cwn, that is for rage kernel.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Dare{D}evil:
Nice going with the kernel..been using 1.6ghz v3.0 keep up the good work and thanks

Sent from my GT-P1000
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Nezbert:
Is the 2Ghz version more efficient than the 1.6Ghz version? Because of voltages?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] christian_a_torres:
Hello, cheers for your effort in this rom :)

I picked up BetterBatteryStats to get som info on why I wasnt getting the battery time some peeps have reported here. I have gathered these screenshoots:

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Seems there is something wakeing up the system alot.. any ideas? cheers

Edit: Forgot to say I am your kernel v3 with wlan modules and hybrom v10. BetterBatteryStats setup per post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1433309

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Poll in first page :cool:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] christian_a_torres:
Hey Kamarush, any ideas about those kernel wakelocks? Seems to be 2 things wakeing up the system alot, but I dont know what they do..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ceroberoz:
can you reupload the boot.img file?

the host said the file are removed
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] nimbold:
Voted for Mini and Yes ;)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] RealGunjack:
Best battery states after trying v1, v2 and Rage Kernel, especcialy after callibration.

Really good work!

P.S.: About poll - You're kidding? Is any user of your kernel wouldn't like new updates? :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] smxaz61:
cant seem to find working download site for the 2ghz version, ok ill stay on 1.6, ill just wait for the v4 :)

EDIT: RealGunjack sent me DL link, thanks bro :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] smxaz61:
Problem solved xD it really sucks being a noob XD

the only problem left is i cant overclock upto 2.0ghz, my phone freezes everytime i set the values to 2000 something xD
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] victor32:
the version 1,6Ghz not work good for me... this version give me some "infinite" lag because the lag stop but back again.. Im using Sk17a with stock Generic Trade Brazil 2.3.4 FW 62, so I wanna try with 2Ghz If someone can upload again because the link are broken, Thanks *-*
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] RealGunjack:
Here is a link
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] karkand:
any have/backup original wlan modules in FW42?please,,anyone help me if you have,,this is in /system/lib/modules/ ..there is have 3 files with .ko extensions...

each files is less than 1MB...

btw,this kernel have bug in FM?

if not, i'll try it...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] RealGunjack:
Stock modules situated in Rage Kernel thread
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] earthquake36:
@kamarush i install your kernel succesfuly however my wifi and gprs is not working now.

i was using bbooff kernel earlier with hybrom v11.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Install the wlan modules too.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] karkand:
wow,,good kernel,,,my FM is still working...i've used another kernel that FM not working...but,why when i'm change the governor to any else than ondemand with 1,9Ghz my SK17i is reboot? can you fix it? i'm still use FW42...

i'll post if i found another bugs here.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] edwarddd:
Mi sk17a overclockin to 1.6 reboot :( but good kernel are the best !!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Draygon:
Good Kernel!

I'm using Cyanogenmod 7.2 FXP108 for my Mini Pro and have one problem:

My wifi is not working (yes, i installed the wifi modules mango_v2_signed.zip)

If I go to my wifi settings, there is just an "error".

Any help would be nice.

GPS is working for me. o_O
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] prince.raja:
@Draygon

do not use KRsH Kernel for Cyanogenmod 7.2 .

Cyanogenmod has a seperate kernel for their ROMS ,pls check for the boot.img inside the zip file of the cyanogen update.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Draygon:
Alright, I just thought it would speed it a little bit more up and will save battery life. :p
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] prince.raja:
:) nice try

apart from wi-fi ,are the other features working...

are there any force closes ?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Draygon:
I didn't have any force closes, it was working fast.

But I faced 2 problems:

-Wifi not working

- Can't scroll up the status bar, if i scrolled it down. I needed to click the home button for it.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] coolbuy:
This is something that i've found in my personal experience. With rage 2.4 my battery life is ok and the phones battery wont heat up for more than 42C when downloading files in phone/using internet. But with KRsH Kernel the batterylife is amazing, its 3x better battery life than rage 2.4, but on the other hand while downloading files in phone/using internet the battery heats up to 45C. Could someone please respond what is the safest max temperature for our battery.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] QeneX:
But it hasn't better life than stock kernel, has it?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] pablo.alonso:
Hi kamarush,

Why CIFS support is being removed from all kernels?!

I'm needing just that. is there a possibility to re add it my self with my very little knowledge in the matter ? or it is mandatory to re compile ?

thanks.

regards,

Pablo
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] coolbuy:
it has, if u use On Demand kernel
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Because that was one of the reasons, that drained extremely the battery. But if you need, I can compile that as a standalone module.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] coolbuy:
Why your kernel does not support nofrills cpu control?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] kamarush:
Nofrills is working.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Black_jackss:
No V4 ? :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Snoopo:
May I ask you to make a second version with cm7 wlan modules to make this kernel work with cm7.2 rom(s)? What's the complexity/effort to do that? I currently really have no clue and would absolutely understand you if this would have too much effort.

But if I can give assistance (e.g. by testing) to reduce some effort, feel free to contact me. :)

Regards.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] prince.raja:
That wud be great :-)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] snaky90:
Great kernel !
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ashokmkd:
My hardware keyboard lights are always on when the keyboard is closed and screen is unlocked. Light goes off when screen is locked. Is that a problem with kernel? I'm using the 1.6ghz version kernel.
[Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mechcondrid:
ok this is my problem i have full signal yet i have "no internet connection" i've got it rooted and running stock rom 3.2.2 and the kernel is working off of rouge's kernel zip so i know its not the sleep glitch and ive checked with verizon and they say theres no outage or account issue so im completely at a loss it was working find for days up until now.

update:

ok i guess the vzw guy was talking out his backside because it fixed itself so i guess they were messing with a tower or something
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] L-CoKo:
Good Evening,

I have recently flash a Desire HD, i needed to downgrade to 1.32 stock ROM for that.

Is it the same for the Legend ?

If so, where could i find a 1.32 stock ?

Thank you
[Legend Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] helldroid04:
go to the TUTS regarding rooting and you'll find the answer ;)
[General Questions and Answers] S2K_MoZo:
I am trying to figure out if there is a way to pull radio image from a phone.

I installed Gingerbread on my LG Thrill following this article:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1343915

I had to install O3D radio in order to make it work and now I am done with experiment so I am trying to figure out how to go back to stock.

I tried LG Support tool.

LG Support says they don't support it.

If you install stock or modified LG Thrill rom, you get no reception because of O3D baseband.

I have been searching but can't find out about how to get radio out from another phone and flash on mine.

I have another LG Thrill but I just need to know how I can do a system dump or something so this will work and bring my phone back to stock.

Any help regarding radios will be appreciated.

Thank you.
[General Questions and Answers] g35mt:
i am in the same boat as you..impulse moment getting gb now regretting it. i do admit the gb on thrill is pretty responsive..
[General Questions and Answers] justinsaulsbury:
I can write u a guide for $10

sent from HTC evo
[General Questions and Answers] Blagus:
Can you give me /proc/mtd ?

Why are you asking so much for money around here?
[General Questions and Answers] justinsaulsbury:
Personal reasons. If I can make money for my knowledge than why not

sent from HTC evo
[General Questions and Answers] Cport:
Any luck with this yet, I'm stuck on selfkang1 cm7? Any help is much appreciated.
[General Questions and Answers] Macgamer:
Yea i have CM7 on optimus c i need to know how to do this as well the delovoper for this rom is lazy
[General Questions and Answers] PROlific666:
That is not the way the open source community was intended to work. We are supposed to help each other. I suggest you go get a Iphone. Your values are more in line with Apples than the open source community.
[General Questions and Answers] Griprhowe:
LG Thrill root

I just want to loose the AT&T bloatware. The OE ROM is okay for me. Just want to do some more personalizations and free hotspot. Any Suggestions??
[General Questions and Answers] JayJ-1974:
Since my first Droid (SE X10i) I have bought and paid for apps that I no longer have use for, is there a way to remove them from the "My Apps" list on the market?

Yes I know they're not doing any harm there but I have phone OCD and it's bugging me, I tried Titanium but that obviously just disconnects them and they're still there. I think google should have an option in the market for this but sadly not, anybody have any ideas??

Thanks, JJ.

Swyped from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
[General Questions and Answers] Dark3n:
The only option i see is asking the developer to refund your purchase.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ren Davies.:
I thought I did before. I think I noticed this after using Titanium Backup Pro for the first time. I've also noticed that it says 696MB available space in Settings > Storage and 757MB available space in Settings > Applications > Manage Applications. Why is this?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Shalabh.raj:
Anyone tried to root samsung 7 inch which is running 3.2 version?
[LG Optimus 3D] synthkid2:
When i checked my sd slot prior to my new micro sd card arriving is it normal for one of the connectors coming from the phone for the slot to be shorter than the others and slightly bent?
[LG Optimus 3D] hefonthefjords:
yeah they are a bit of a funny shape. nothing to worry about.
[Motorola Photon 4G] DssTrainer:
I have the MoPho rooted but not unlocked. I am using my laptop with connectify to create an ad-hoc network. The MoPho will see the network and see that it is p2p adhoc... but when I try to connect... it says "obtaining ip address...." but never gets one.

has anyone else had any problems with connecting to ad-hoc networks?

do i need to be unlocked for that to work? or something else?
[Motorola Photon 4G] lavans4u:
I too tried the same with locked and unlocked bootloaders.

It is some software bug
[Motorola Photon 4G] DssTrainer:
This is precisely why phone makers need to slow down their phone offspring and just release a few and focus on their problems. Carriers just have these bastard children and then cut the cord and make new babies... while these ones get malnourished and in need of medical support.

A shame.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Anatomy82:
Yep its a Motorola problem i guess since i managed to connect on my dads HTC Inspire but not on my photon or my sister Atrix =/
[Motorola Photon 4G] DssTrainer:
Looks like its back to HTC for me from now on... maybe Sammy but I like HTC's unlockable bootloader policy
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Curb71:
I cut a ribbon cable trying to replace the screen in my girlfriends Dinc. Now the repairs cost more than I want to spend so i'm going to sell it as broken on Ebay.

Question is, is there a way to wipe everything/hard reset it without the display working? When I power it on it does that short vibrate so I know it's still working. Just can't see anything.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tingtan:
If you have rooted and adb configured, you can try: adb shell wipe data.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Curb71:
Never had it rooted
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theonew:
You could try flashing the stock rom (using RUU).
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Curb71:
But it's NOT rooted.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theonew:
It doesn't have to be.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] hyelton:
I'm still so confused. What is what? And yes I've Google's and read Wikipedia but still hasn't awnsered me. Which one is the one is backhauled and they call 4g? (Not lte) like I know umts is 3g but then what is the other two? I know one of them is the backhauled 3g but then what is the other lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] foxbat121:
HSPA+ is what AT&T called '4G'. HSDPA (for faster download) and HSUPA (for faster upload) are all part of old 3G technologies. UMTS is even older. Technically HSPA+ is 3G as well.

The entire HSPA protocol stack is a giant evolving standard with many different revisions (called release). UNTS is first release. HSUPA is release 6. HSDPA is before that. Current AT&T 4G HSPA+ is at release 10. T-Mobile is release 10 or higher. Both companies call this 4G.