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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eallan:
I would wager the camera is the same from the galaxy s 2 which is ALMOST the same as the iPhone 4s. I have all three. I'd say the 4s is best by a hair with the other two being identical.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdodd:
Thanks for the link. That was very helpful, and that is the kind of information I was hoping to elicit from this thread. Hopefully others will find it informative too.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spartan2x:
Here's how I tell if a camera on a phone is good:

Take a picture of a paper or hand out with lots of text on it. Make sure the paper fills the screen/picture. Zoom in and see if all the text is legible and easy to read. This his how I use my spart phone cameras. On the Note it will be particularly important since I will be able to take a picture of a paper, then zoom in and "draw" on it with the stylus.

The Camera on the iPhone 4 does a great job at this, and I hope the note is at least as good. My Flyer's camera just barely gets the job done...so meh.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johnmcl7:
No, I didn't buy the phone for the camera nor did I say that. Pretty much all devices including phones and cameras are a matter of balance choosing what you want or need balanced against what features you're prepared to trade off. After surprising myself how often I used the S2 camera when I had a loan one the fact the Note had the same camera was a big plus combined with the incredible screen, fast processor etc.

I don't expect my phone camera to match the quality of my professional cameras as even compacts and crop DSLRs cannot do that but at the same time I don't expect my professional cameras to fit in my pocket and weigh in at much under a kilogram either. If I was buying a phone purely for the camera, it would the N8 which has a sensor unlikely to be matched in a mainstream phone for a long time if at all.

John
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xaddict:
Oh? You said you thought the Notes camera was crap compared to a DSLR and It looked more like you wanted people to join in on that opinion.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdodd:
Well I'm sorry if that's the impression I gave. My concerns were raised before I even took the side by side photos for comparison. I only shot those as an illustration to others rather than simply moaning without supporting evidence.

There are several reasons I upgraded to the Note. The screen was the main one, then the processing power, but also the camera. Since my previous phone was the Orange San Francisco, with 3.2 megapixels (yes, I know, means sh!t), no flash, and almost universal condemnation for the IQ, I really wanted the camera part to be a significant step up - something I really could make use of as an alternative to a compact for impromptu shooting. All I was saying is that I find the camera disappointing. It's an improvement on my previous phone without doubt, but combined with awkward ergonomics of the phone as a camera, it is not a feature I will use as much as I had hoped.

If others are happy then that's fine, but for me it has not provided the solution I was hoping for. I just wondered what other people thought. Now I know. ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] p51d007:
I don't know how you can even compare a photo from a phone, to that of even the cheapest SLR.

You are talking a pinhole size sensor, versus something that is almost if not bigger than a postage stamp.

The smaller the sensor, and, the more "megapixels" you have, the worse the signal to noise ratio will be, which results in a "grainy" or noisy photo.

At 100% resolution, most modern camera-phones produce a descent photo in good light, but, if you zoom in to 400%, expect a LOT of noise. It's simple physics.

You cannot cram enough "light gathering" sensors on such a small surface, without getting noise.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigmille:
Compared against other high end smart phones, the camera is not bad at all. However the Note with its tiny sensor, smaller lower quality lense and heavily compressed picture is not designed as a subtitle to a micro ¾ or DSLR, and no one in their right mind can expect the quality to match even the cheapest DSLR on the market.

It is like saying you are unhappy with the performance of the Note against a similarly priced laptop because the laptop can performance the same tasks much faster than the Note. You are of course missing the point of a device like the Note completly.

Not try to bash your thread, but you did try to compare a smart phone camera against a DSLR.

P.S. my one week old Note already has some marks on the camera lense, I think it’s a terrible design having the lense protruding out from the battery cover.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dennishhh:
camera lens cover

I took a look at my lens on the back of the note and saw some marks on it also. I took a microfiber cloth hands and sprayed some lens cleaner and wiped it off ,no more marks. I think that the cover over the lens must be glass not plastic. if someone knows for sure feel free to correct me on this.:)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neverthemore:
Glad to share. I was waiting for such a review since the announcement at IFA. :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dennishhh:
DSLR

Actually I thought your comparison was quite informative! I was impressed by the quality of the Note image, I thought it would be worse compared to your DSLR. Considering the difference in the chip size and megapixel difference it's great. Thanks for doing this.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hagba:
Compare to my two years old phone picture taken by my wife.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qazzi76:
I'm convinced the author of this thread is a troll as this thread makes no sense lmho

why would you compare a little pinhole phone camera to an slr and get in a tizz because the picture quality isn't as good??? lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sman55:
Great Pics

I think this little camera is fab. I'm very pleased with my first pics
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wextercz:
I have this problem with camera. That pinky center :(
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Towserspvm2000:
Pixel peeping a "smartphone" vs a dSLR???? ???? !!!!!!?????????

The most ridiculous thread on here yet.

That's like me saying "My Canon SX210 is not as good as my Nikon D70!!! And it should be better as it has more than twice the megapixels, and it's newer!!!!!"

All you've done is shown that the difference between a phone and a dSLR isn't all that great, and if you cant't see the vast difference between sensor size and lens size (that only gives this much difference) then I suggest you give up photography.

PS - Sorry if I appear rude, but photography is a passion of mine.

PPS - You are expecting WAY too much out of the Note's camera then. Not even God can change the laws of Physics as much as you want.

PPPS - Print out those photos from the Note and dSLR at 7x5, and then compare.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...sg=AFQjCNED5gfr9stAFO3XZZvqYAbRRihsHw&cad=rja

---------- Post added at 01:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:47 AM ----------

Please put up a 100% crop

I would be more than "very pleased"... - I'd be over the moon if I could find one of these to photograph in the woods, lying on a tree like that. ;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] watch_mania:
My impressions is that there is something wrong with the camera app. Images are sharper while on the viewfinder, but it's very hard to shoot without the resulting image being a bit blurry.. :confused:

Well sensor size is the definite reason why Sony NEX cameras exists :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bamboo12:
http://thehandheldblog.com/2010/10/04/shootout-nokia-n8-v-canon-550d-dslr/

Camera phone giving dslr a run for its money
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigmout:
Have you looked into a Nokia?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdodd:
I flirted with the idea of the new Lumia 800 and also the iPhone 4S and SGS2, but the Note had features (mostly the screen, partly the stylus (I used a Windows 5 phone for several years)) which meant it outranked all other contenders.

I'm not so hung up on the camera thing that the Note needs to go back. It's just that it doesn't not fit with my needs very well and I was hoping, without knowing, that Samsung's new flagship phone would at least match the best in the industry, if not set new standards. It appears it's very close to the top, which means that all things considered my choice of phone is easily the best I could have made. I'm just a little sad that it is so awkward to use as a camera and that the images it produces are just short of what I would have hoped. I can certainly use them at a pinch, but I do not especially like them. Still, so long as content matters more than technical excellence it will still do the job better than having no camera at all. :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] koniakki:
I agree with tdodd on some extent. Some comments were simply, just unnecessary and kind of harsh..

Yes, tdodd should not even remotely compare his/an DSLR with the Note, because such a comparison would reveal how still inferior any phone today is to a dedicated good quality camera and makes it noticable in a greater scale.

Before anyone picks on me.. The Note's photos are more acceptable to me. It won't be winning any photo quality awards but for a phone is MORE than acceptable. IMO of course.

Also after reading many reviews/comparisons and with the last being the GSMArena review, I can honestly say that even if they state that the photo quality is about the same,

PLEASE take a look at their own comparison tools. Both photo/video comparisons.

I state it that I'm not an expert on photo/video quality but I'm an avid videophile and I do enjoy video quality. In the video comparison right on the Ferris Wheel replica, I can clearly read all the words from the iPhone 4S, almost all on the SGS2 and almost NONE on the Note. Hint: Look below those 2 light bulbs.

And if you still can't see the difference(best is 4S, then the SGS2 and last the Note) or simply do not want to, well there's so much one can do.. :p

P.S: Nothing of the above said, makes me love my Note ANY less in any way!

And I believe that the camera quality will get better with custom roms/ICS/apps etc. By how much, of course no one knows.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vessk0:
Can anyone post the best settings for best results in a various conditions? :cool:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MartijnMM:
Bad camera. didn't even catch the silver car in the back.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xinato91:
What settings have you use for that picture?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] linzgeneral:
Lol......:D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdodd:
For the phone, standard defaults. No scene modes or funky processing. Highest quality full resolution. No edits, just a 1:1 view of the pixels.

For the DSLR, lens zoomed to match (more or less) the field of view. Shot raw and converted to JPEG in Lightroom without edits, resizing the pixel dimensions to match the output from the Note. Then also displayed at 1:1 for the resulting 8 MP image file.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hagba:
Quite frankly I am not impressed with the camera quality as well,I have been fiddling with the settings since I got it four days ago but still not par to my HD2 WM camera,every other thing been superb.

If anyone having a better experience please let him share the settings .
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] James Harrison:
MAJOR camera improvement!

The coding in the stock camera app seems to be a bit screwed up, it makes the camera tend not to focus well and seems a bit unclear most of the time. In that case use this:

https://market.android.com/details?i...amera360&hl=en

If you have no interest in filters, there is an original version of every photo taken.

The one problem that may annoy you is the improper scaling. The photo's are worth it though, Here are some samples.

http://dagogo.picturepush.com/album/...-party).html

click on the pictures so it opens in a new window and then click "full" resolution!!!

I think the mods can get rid of my other thread I just started if there's already this one :/
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RomBox:
the IQ of Note is better than my old DC - Canon S3 IS...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hagba:
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Thanks will try it.

Edit:Looks like the first link is not valid.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] James Harrison:
The first link is down. Just search the app camera 360
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockky:
Based on my SGS2 its exactly what I expected
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beards:
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!

A lot of users who paid for this App can no longer obtain updates to the Ultimate version.

All they can now download is the free 2.6 version which has certain features missing.

Read some of the comments where owners of the Ultimate version are saying either bring it back or they want their money back.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funguykk:
I got the NOTE for the big screen, the bigger processor, the bigger battery and a camera that was supposed to be as good as the SII. I'm not thaaat impressed with the photos from the phone. They look better on the PC monitor than on the phone but look very grainy when zoomed in.

Are we not supposed to look at camera phone photos zoomed in? Why don't the photos on the screen appear good also when zoomed in? It's definitely not a screen issues as the wallpapers I downloaded to the phone look awesome zoomed in.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cokeman2:
this is a really good read i recommended everyone to see this site very good analysis of all the best mobiles out there at this time .....

"We compare the iPhone 4S with the Samsung Galaxy Note, Galaxy S II, Motorola RAZR, Sony Ericsson Xperia ray and Nokia N8. "

http://www.soyacincau.com/2011/12/09/cameras-compared-iphone-4s-vs-the-rest/
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hagba:
Yes indeed the stock camera app turns out to be the best.

However the Flash is weak and not as good as my HD2.

I am also disappointed that there is no option for the Sharpness in the Settings that is why when zoomed in the picture does not turn out good quality and sharp,adding a bit of artificial sharpness in the Settings wouldn't harm for those who prefer sharp pictures.

I have noticed that choosing Matrix in the Metering is taking better shots.

And also many options are not holding when the camera turned On/Off.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] titus1:
Not impressed here either
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexchan.ccs:
Much much better than my old phone, moto milestone. Satisfied.

And I won't compare it with my DSLR, the usage is totally different. Casual snap shots use phone, serious shooting use DSLR. Many ppl already told the phone sensor is much smaller than DSLR or DC, that's pointless to compare the photo pixel by pixel. Over expectations just lead to disappointments.

attached picasa link a few snap shots from my Note, I think these were satisfied for a phone camera.

https://picasaweb.google.com/117638158788918276073/Note02#5689618877195875170

(jpeg upload used much compression here, so I switched the attachments with my picasa link instead)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funguykk:
I think that depends on what phone camera you're talking about. Those photos look similar in quality in what I used to get from my Nokia E72 which had a decent camera but it's not acceptable for the NOTE which is supposed to be superior according to all the reviews.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cushcalc:
This may be a silly question, but did you remove the plastic over the camera lens? I didn't realize there was a piece of plastic over the camera lens and over the Home Button until I read about it in these forums. My picture quality improved greatly after removing the protective plastic!

The position of the volume control and power button are a bit awkward for taking photos. However the volume button is in the most common place on a smartphone, and I don't know where else it could be placed that wouldn't create new problems. The power button, OTOH, being directly opposite the volume rocker, is a royal PITA. It should be on top like most other phones. It would certainly also help for picture taking if there was a dedicated camera button, a la Atrix 2 and others.

I am mostly pleased with picture and video quality for a phone, and I come from iPhone 4 use. But focusing is not as responsive as iPhone 4 - I waste more shots trying to get proper focus locked in with the Note.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enobrec:
Focusing in zoomed pics are the great problem..horrible focus in 3.5\4 x zoomed pics at long distance (over 3 mt...to infinity)

Very good pics in macro

How can it is possible an hardware problem??

of few Gnotes..not all

Or is a software problem ...and can be fixed with future FW?

boh..

regards
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tdodd:
Yes, I found that quickly enough and removed it. Mind you, there was a neat circular hole cut out of the centre so that the lens ought not to have been obscured.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Homey:
I just came to the Note from an iPhone 4s and I have to say that compared to the 4s camera, the Note's camera looks like a typical phone cam. Some of the pix from my 4s were truly astounding for a phone, so good in fact that I seriously considered leaving my Dslr at home occasionally! The Note does not have the dynamic range of the iPhone's camera and nowhere near the performance of a "proper" camera.

The Note slaughters the 4s in every other respect but as far as the Note's camera goes, it's laughable that anyone can even compare it to a dslr!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericshmerick:
With the proper lighting conditions it looks pretty good in my opinion.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vessk0:
Something from me:
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funguykk:
Some of your photos look good considering we're not looking at them at full size. I have a few pictures to show that look good on the PC but not so great on the phone even slightly zoomed in. I feel some of them are sharp and the last picture seems very noisy in spite of some good lighting available.

Are these pictures acceptable and match the quality of the famous camera of the Galaxy SII ? Or should I get this phone replaced? Do we always have to shoot in the sunlight to get good pictures ? :confused:

http ://img717.imageshack. us/img717/8641/20111224091457.jpg

http: //img9.imageshack. us/img9/2996/20111224084333.jpg

http: //img843.imageshack .us/img843/2252/20111224091522.jpg

http: //img593.imageshack. us/img593/4348/20111225110450.jpg
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anakin1979:
If you're going to compare the cam quality of the Note to a basic DSLR, of course it's going to take less detailed and impressive looking shots.

However I think if you compare it to most camphones, the GS2 and the GN have one of the best optics out there and I'm even giving my point and shoot to my sister as I think this replaces it. Haven't really tried the iPhone 4S' camera so can't comment on that. And quite obviously if I compare the shots of the GN to my Canon 5D MII then the GN's shots will be inferior by a lot.

From what I have read so far though, the Note's camera outperforms the new Nexus, which tells us we made the right choice.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericshmerick:
Read no more. The camera on the Galaxy Nexus is terrible. It's fast, yes, but quality is very cameraphone-ish. Just not good.

I sold my GN 3 weeks after ownership. Once ICS wore off, it was just another average phone. The Note is in an entirely different category, especially with it's superb camera.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrHassell:
I'm quite impressed for a 5MP camera, I've seen higher pixel depth DSLR devices look worse.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xplan9:
I agree. My iPhone4 does seem to have the edge in picture quality over the Note but overall, the Note is such a great package I am going to make it my main handheld.

Tapatalk is good
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yslee:
Really? I think I still prefer the S2/Note's camera over the iPhone 4's. The 4S however, is much better.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xplan9:
Sorry. Should have been clearer. It's the 4s I have and was referring to.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Technoholik:
I had an SGSII earlier and my Note still image quality was not upto SGSII levels.

I don't know if it is psychological but I feel the camera photo quality has improved after the KL3 firmware update.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] victor19nyc:
Comparing my Note's regular camera to the front facing camera on the same device, the latter takes noticeably clearer pictures. There's something strange going on with the image processing on the regular camera......it's perfectly clear on the screen just before the image is captured, then the captured imaged is significantly softened and background blurred. I've tried every camera setting I can possibly think of.

So, yeah. I agree to compare it to other mobile phone cameras, like my own Note's front facing camera. Something's definitely not right with my device.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] William Haven:
I'm a photographer and own a couple dslrs.. like has been said before, a phone can't be compared to a dslr. And yes probably there are better cameras in other phones, but the GNote camera is more than awesome for it's entire purpose of being in a phone.

Are you kidding me?! I previously had an iPhone 3G. That phone had a horrible 2mp camera!! That's a real REASON to be unimpresed! ;))

(Sorry for my english)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sicmofo:
I just purchased this app yesterday and after a whole day of testing I have to say that its worth every penny. I felt the need to create this thread because the stock camera app is close to worthless in any sub-par lighting condition, and that everyone should get this app for their phone.

Focus speed of this phone is pretty good. I dont feel that bad anymore about not getting ICS :p Not to mention a plethora of other features which are useful to both the practical and creative user.

One of the more noteworthy features is the "stable shot" mode where it utilizes your phones sensors to detect movement and therefore eliminate blurry/unfocused photos (It will only shoot when the phone is still for a set amount of time)

I just intend to share this info with everyone since I myself am very happy with this app, and its not like there are better alternatives out there in the market.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] prince_venom:
Ya u r right ... i think we should use zoom fx in place of stock camera since it has nice focus and pictures are cryspy. while the stock cam always had blurity
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] manrock111:
if you are going to review an app from market then please also share some example photos too.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] mjbri0613:
example shot? here it is... with a dim light from a resto bar... ^^
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] falex007:
Post link to original image. This one too small ;)
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] sicmofo:
Red Horse Extra Strong!

Anyway as for the pics, excellent timing since I'll be going to the zoo tomorrow :p
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] poolakkal Suresh:
Good u shared, shall buy that soon.

I pity u dude, u r back to zoo (just pulling ur legs seeing ur avtar)...lol:D:D:D