yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
1. no.. when you flash a rom it replaces what is on your phone, so it doesnt matter what you are running now. Same thing goes later, when you get bored of you first rom, and want to flash a second rom. Just flash it. no need to go back to stock.

2. huh? gingerbread bootloaders let you run gingerbread or newer versions of android. you have to flash it if you want to run a rom that has been made in the past 4 months...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sevengun16:
But I read that flashing over a existing custom rom or not flashing back to to 2.1 stock can cause problems, is that true?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
a long long time ago before we made the roms "wipe" the device in the install script before flashing.

if a rom wants you to flash to stock the rom page will say so. but you 99.99999% wont see that now days.

now its : heres a rom. flash it in cwm. done.

you know about titanium backup? to backup all your apps and app settings, then restore them on your new rom? if you dont theres plenty of info about it on XDA and it has its own FAQ and how to website somewhere...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sevengun16:
Thanks man you are the best! So if I were to flash over a custom rom, I'll just follow the odin method from step 11 - 13 only, right?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
Yup. Got it
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sevengun16:
To clarify something: On the odin method instruction, it said that the speedmod kernel will be replaced by the custom rom kernel so what happen if I were to flash a

custom rom over a existing rom and the rom's kernel is not compatible with the rom I am about to flash? Should I flash the speedmod kernel everytime I try a new rom just in case?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayRokk:
The Rom its self with come with a kernel.. and it will replace your existing kernel so no need to worry unless you're going to flash a custom kernel. Then you should pay close attention if its compatible or not
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sevengun16:
Yes, I understand that part but my question is will the custom rom kernel be compatible with the rom I will be over flashing? For example, I have apex rom and I want to flash fasty rom. Will the apex kernel be compatible for me to flash the fasty rom? The speedmod kernel mentioned in this guide is compatible for both 2.1 and 2.2, so should I flash it before I flash a rom over a existing custom rom?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reinbeau:
You won't have any issues, just follow the instructions that are always either in or linked in the first post of any ROM you want to try.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
oh i get it.. just a min...

he's worrying about

edify / amend scripting

issues... not kernel issues, in the way youre thinking..

you DO have to think about this when going from a 2.2 froyo based rom to a 2.3.X gingerbread based rom, or vice versa.

and the easiest thing to do is just flash speedmod kernel. either by zip or odin... or Mobile odin app

if you do accidentally try to flash one, it will just error out when reading the install script, and you can reboot and use your phone no problem, go do what you need to do, and continue as normal

-- I rEEd gO0d n0Ob spEEk
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toominds:
Hey, thanks a lot for your effort. Helps me a lot!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] minhtien1900:
thank alot
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayRokk:
Oooohhhh lol had me stumped for a little
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kevvy1066:
It's Been a Loooooooooong Time

Hey Guys,

I've been trolling the forums for the past two days straight, trying my best to figure this all out without having to post a question. Please pardon my wall o text.

Long story short, my buddy gave me a captivate to replace my broke down phone. I had to downgrade from Kies GB 2.3.5 so i could root through the one click method. I needed to root to get the unlock app, since the code from ATT wasn't working (on tmobile sim). The last time i was on here regularly i was messing with a mt3g :eek: (about 2 years, lots of new terminology for me)

A couple of things:

1) Since downgrading, I am assuming that I lost the GB bootloaders, and I will have to add them back through Odin. correct?

2) with all this megaupload business, the government frequently blocks the download url... any known workaround or mirror sites for the files needed? i.e. GB bootloaders

3) The last recovery image i was using was *ahem* *cough* Aman_Ra's ... So i have no idea what the CWM interface looks like... assuming it is much of the same... Basically I just have the ROM file (corresponding with my kernel) on the internal sd, and when in recovery i just flash that file name and voila, my ROM is loaded????

again, my bad, not trying to be redundant... I just know that it's read once, twice, get it all ready, read it one more time, and do it right the first time.

thanks!!!!!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
1) depends on how you downgraded. (where you got it from) MOST packages DONT flash original bootloaders since they work with anything. chances are you still have them

2) contact the poster of the file in question to post a new link. and note MULTI upload.. some links still work.

3) have no friggin idea what Aman_Ra's recovery looks like. CWM looks like cwm. boot into recovery and look! does it say clockwork mod recovery at the top?? or search youtube to see it in action on a captivate. there are plenty of videos showing what it looks like.

3b) roms come with a kernel... what do you mean "rom corresponding to kernel" ? read the WHOLE last page before your post... im not typing it again.

but once you DO figure it out....

1. boot into CWM

2. Flash rom.

DONE
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
and to add to previous instructions... if rom flash fails,

flash different kernel (mentioned in OP)

flash rom.

if when you boot you have GREEN screen, you need gingerbread bootloaders. flash em. reboot. done.

OH 1 LAST THING!!!!

you could have just rooted with "Super One Click Root" PC program (latest version) it works.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jayRokk:
Aman Ras is just like our own CWM ...same thing different developer so he will know how to work it
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trustify:
Hi i believe the gingerbread bootloader link is dead...is there another one i can use???

Thanks.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
new link posted. thanks for letting me know.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sid0101:
Virgin Captivate

Alright, so I'm getting ready to delve into putting an ICS rom on this Virgin Captivate (not rooted or flashed with anything previously). With this method of flashing can I use the CodeNameAndroid 1.3.3 rom? I know it's been asked before in this thread if any rom can be flashed and the answer was yes, but this is an ICS rom with a custom Kernel (Glitch V14b3 Captivate Kernel). Should I continue with this method?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
its always best to follow the instructions of the rom you are flashing, but this better explains some steps, or better/quicker ways of getting to certain points (getting cwm/ past signature verification).
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
quote from post 2 of codenameandroid thread:

though im not too sure how necessary it is to be rooted first. *i think* cwm handles getting past that to flash a rom. the rom itself is rooted, so you

will

have root after.

use my guide to get CWM, Wipe/Factory Reset, then flash Glitch kernel .zip, then his rom.

if it fails (due to root) use superOneClick Root (windows program on xda) to root it.

reboot to cwm and flash again.

done.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sid0101:
Thanks, I will attempt this tonight or sometime this weekend. I will be back to let you know how it turned out!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
updated instructions above.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sid0101:
Okay, so I update the rom with ICS with your guide and the kernel and rom provided in the CNA thread. However, having done this, I no longer have any service... :/
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
And that would be one of the problems of flashing a beta version ROM. They aren't perfect or fully functioning.

flash something that works
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sid0101:
I know that I should ask there, and I have. But I guess in the interest of time - do you think it would be fine to flash a GB rom straight from this ICS?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
nope. ICS uses different partitioning table.

flash back to stock with Odin One Click packages. stickied in development section.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJj33p3rz:
Ok what am I missing here my cappy is running stock i flash this hiemdal all looks good phone boots up then it just keeps rebooting.Ive done it over and over excuse my nooby question but i cant get something right.Thanks for any help.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
what did you flash with heimdall?

or did you just flash what is in the first post with heimdall? if so learn to read. next step is...

reboot into recovery

.

that kernel isnt used to BOOT the phone. that kernel is used to give you CWM so you can flash something. that kernel doesnt match your rom so it wont boot. but you dont need it to boot. you only need to go to recovery so you can flash a rom/kernel package.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJj33p3rz:
Yeah I read after i posted it was early my fault but,it wont boot into recovery now after this.Now that I have more time Ill try again.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
Make Sure you keep the buttons held up to 5 seconds after screen turns on
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJj33p3rz:
Well i messed with it for awhile,when i try to apply the rom from zip I get the verification failed Ive read about it every where here and I still get it.Not sure what to do the phone is up and running no reboots says its running 2.3.4 baseband i897UCKH3 Gingerbread it just wont let me flash a rom.Since it says this can I try the update zip again or is there a different one for GB?I used the heimdal one click to get this far.You say the phone wont run this way without a rom just curious why it is running now,like I said before it was rebooting every sec I must of done something different but no clue what.

Kernal 2.6.35.7 I897UCKH3-CL461307
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reinbeau:
Search for e- signature verification failed or somesuch, I'm mobile right now, but there is a fix for that somewhere here in Development.

Sent from a state of Serendipity
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
if you are getting signature verifacation error, you dont have CWM recovery.

you didnt follow my guide properly. or else you would have cwm..

recovery asking for update.zip... is stock recovery. KH3 kernel is stock for 2.3.4 android. which is why the phone DOES boot. you are running stock rom with the stock kernel.

start the guide over again. if you are running windows, use the friggin odin method. i HATE heimdall. only used it for 2 minutes once ever. its only posted for the linux and ios people.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJj33p3rz:
I followed to a tee I hate odin it never works right.I downloaded everything you have there I add tar click pda start and all it does is say added then file anylisis then set up connection and does nothing more Ive tried odin on all my other phones it never works.

EDIT: For some damn reason odin worked this time no clue why didnt do anything different than the other hundred times I tried.Now to find a rom thanks for the help.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lucas_saka:
I have restored back to stock rom a gingerbread 2.3.4, a odin one-click with no bootloaders. I am right if I skip steps 4-6? Since I don't have CWM, doing steps 7-10 will install CWM on my phone,right ? Once done this I may be able to flash the teamhacksung's CM9 ALPHA Captivate rom without the need of the gingerbread bootloaders ? Appreciate some help.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
correct! have fun!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Osioko:
Hi guys, need ur advice.

I've bought cappy from 1 guy with dead boot. Boot was restored in Samsung's service center and i got 2.1 system on board.

I updated it with Kies to 2.2 and then 2.3.5.

Then, after many-hours of forum reading i flashed my phone with i9000-based rom (EPv2). As a resault got problems with screen orientation and keys.

Then decided flash stock 2.3.5. Tried flash with Odin (1.8.5) SGH-I897_I897UCKK4_UC_ATT but is stopped at "<ID:0/007> SetupConnection".

After that tried I897UCKF1 with Odin but situation is same.

ATM phone is in Downloar mode and i don't know what to do (rather scarry to turn it off and try boot phone or try flash with Odin.

Also tried 1.70, 1.8.2...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
first off you cant just use any i9000 rom for the exact reason you experienced, you have to use an i9000 rom that has been made to work on captivate... or edit the i9000 rom to work.

to fix... reboot your computer, and use the odin ONE CLICKS from the master collection.

FIRST POST (sticky) in the captivate development section.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Osioko:
Ty. just did that before u answered. i'll try be more carefull.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chandler507:
Great tutorial, thanks a ton.

Successfully took just a rooted 2.2 with no cwm, to an andrometer 3 rom and cwm.

Great job. This along side with adamoutlers video/thread is exactly what a I needed to get going for steady developing on this phone.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TJj33p3rz:
Since I've done this,can I flash any GB Rom for the captivate listed here in the Dev section now?

Right now on this cappy Im running the Fusion-CM-ICS-beta
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
yup. good to go.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoanglap90:
Thank you!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
E: Can't symlink /system/xbin/su

Thanks for a great tutorial.

However, when trying to install Firefly 3.0, it starts installing/copying files and errors out with

E: Can't symlink /system/xbin/su

E:Failure at line 17:

symlink /system/bin/su SYSTEM:xbin/su

Installation aborted

Prior to doing it your way I got the same results.

Back ground:

I896 Canadian 2.1 update 1

Phone getting slow etc, was rooted etc, all well. Wanted to update. Thought I would try firefly. Reflashed to stock rom, followed their instructions and no problems, no errors and Firefly was working. After playing around with it, getting it the way I want, thought I would reflash and get everything off the phone and set it up the way I had figured. ( ya picky I guess).

So in CWM factory wipe, formatted everything, cache, data, system etc. Rebooted and now the phone is bricked... urg. More reading, made my jig and got it working tonight. Was able to flash back to stock 'Toronto' Rom. But now can't flash Firefly, keep getting that error.

HELP PLEASE!!! I use my phone for work and need this running asap.

I have been reading like crazy, and no certain answer and have tried different things with the same result... which is what brought me here, trying your way of installing the custom rom.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
have you tried re-downloading firefly? might have corrupted.

if you need it for work, then dont flash it, leave it stock if stock works.

jig was pointless for a rom fail, hold both volume and plug in usb, keep held for 5 seconds. done. brick is when the screen doesnt turn on.

what kernel are you using to flash firefly ?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
I haven't tried re-downloading it. I have it on my external sd card and after reboot I copy it back on sd and try again. Weird thing is, after a format reflash rom all is gone. Put in sim card and stuff like firefly.zip shows up on my sd again.

But I liked firefly when it worked :( Didn't think it was going to be this big of deal. 2.1 sucks!

Jig wasn't pointless... I had the phone --!---computer icon. Nothing worked.

default... 2.6.29 root@sep-58 #2
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BYOBret:
You formatted the sytem\ and didn't flash anything to replace it. :(
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
so how do I fix that?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BYOBret:
I believe there a some odin one-click packages that repartition everything for you. Like coming back from ICS.

With that error screen, odin will apparently still recognize it... maybe after a few tries, but it should.

I'm not sure which one is best, so I won't try to steer you in the wrong direction.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
But that's the thing, I can and have reflashed with odin 5 plus times now, retrying different things. Going back to stock, then CWM and then try to use fireflies zip and then I get that error. Going back to stock should have fixed any /system files no?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
Well now it is completely Fed... tried another rom darktt installed completely, now it won't turn on at all. No phone---!--computer nothing... bah!!!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
you need to calm down, take your time and read. the ONLY way to brick a captivate is to have a bad bootloader flash.

I also suggested if your phone is so important for work, to flash stock and leave it like that.you flashed stock then kept trying.

the Phone /!\ PC screen can be used as download screen for odin,

firefly.... darkys rom... ancient roms... why?

and you never answered what cwm kernel you were using to try to flash.

take out battery

open odin

hold both volume buttons

plug in USB (keeping buttons held for 5 seconds after)

when the box in odin turns yellow press start. (weather the screen on the phone is on or not)

leave it stock till you do more research
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
Long night/week. I have been reading lots and that it really isn't a big deal to flash these things, as long as things go right.

phone - computer screen didn't work for me on odin. Think there is an issue with my usb on the phone. Works then doesn't work when trying to connect it to the computer. Always works in download mode tho.

Roms - cause I wanted 2.2 or higher, I couldn't root stock 2.2/2.3.3 because of my usb issue, so went with custom roms.

I just used odin, Toronto.tar and PIT s1_odin_20100512.pit when I flashed as that is the instructions I have read to go back to 2.1.1.

That method did not work, still black screen and nothing came up on odin.

I do appreciate your help thank you!!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
oh... Toronto tar it's so old... That's why i made the Rogers stock ROM thread with all versions of Rogers stocks. (link in sig).

If you have usb issues, flashing your phone is asking for trouble.

If you cannot get your phone to turn on anymore it is bricked. get www.mobiletechvideos.com or AdamOutler of xda to do the unbrickable mod and restore it. With the unbrickable mod, you never have to worry about bricking again... 30$ ish...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
I saw your new ones, but the toronto one worked before why I wanted to use it.

For CWM I used Rom Manager to install it. Whatever version that is.

So if it is completely black, like nothing, it is done? The jig won't even fix it?

That is in the states urg :( You are in toronto, do you know how to do it? I could bring it to you?

Thanks again for your help!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
I live in Edmonton. mobile tech videos is in New York I believe. It would actually be quicker shipping. And I don't have the necessary tools to do the mod.

I can't remember if that Toronto is it contained boot loaders that may have been the issue.

Also ROM manager is way outdated for captivate, that's why I started this thread with my method..
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
OH... thought you were in toronto.

I have used it many times without problems. Came here to try your method which ended up being the same thing/error. Then figured try with different ROM to see if it was in fact firefly rom issue when I was getting the error. Installed, came up with a weird screen blue writing saying reboot. Pulled the battery, back in and no go. Trying the jig, not working :(
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
So... I called rogers and I am eligible for an upgrade. So $70 and got the new captivate LTE :)

Since I keep going to older threads, trying to read anything, could you point me in the right direction to root this phone please!!!!

For the other one, I will probably send it in where suggested and least have a back up, or a BAR phone ;) lol.

Thanks again for your all help!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
Well the captivate LTE is a new phone so there wont be any old threads for it but Also being new and very rare may not be a way to route it or any custom software for it.. Do some research before you buy

And I don't mean to sound rude, but asking someone else to research how to route your phone is faster way to brick your device. You should understand what you are doing. So you should do the research so you understand.

But a little hint super one click root, roots almost anything. Hi flash to Rogers gingerbread last night using Cody and was able to root it with super one click, And it only took one click and 3 min. for the program to run itself through. That could've saved you a lot of hassle
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
Good point. Like I mentioned before, I couldn't super one click because my usb wouldn't work when the phone was on.

No not rude... I know, and I have been since monday doing nothing but reading and look where that got me lol. Thought you might have known off by hand is all.

Was going to give super one click on the new phone, need titanium back up for some apps and their data. Why I really only root.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
BTW which phone would you choose... the Galaxy 2 LTE or Nexus? I know the nexus has android 4.0.2, but no external SD card which sucks.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
Nexus. Nexus nexus..

Nexus Anything...

Next's class devices get their updates from Google directly. you will not ever have to wait for the carrier to release your updates
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nadaltennis77:
I flashed this kernel to get clockwork mod recovery and now my phone won't boot up past "Galaxy S - SGH-I897"

How do I get back to my phone?? It won't boot! Should I flash my previous kernel in Odin? Or will I lose my cwm recovery? Help Appreciated!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
how? read the next step after flashing the cwm kernel.. reboot to recovery - not reboot phone.

everything is fully explained in the first post and several times in this thread. please read before you do things.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thumper3322:
LOL... I would but hate the fact only 16 gig.

FYI... tried superoneclick 2.2 and 2.3 (newest one) no go.

p.s. I have been reading so much the last weekend and a half the gf is getting is pissed at me for being on the computer to much. Women just don't understand.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TRusselo:
i used super one click 2 days ago. did you let it run? it had to pause 3 times for 40 seconds, and at one moment it appeared locked up. but it worked.

screw it. quit trying to root stock. stock stucks balls. read the first post of this thread and flash a whole friggin rom