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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lildoggs:
My Upgrade is coming up soon. I don't care much for data transfer, but I want a phone that's responsive. I play games, watch movies, listen to music, use the gps and enjoy smoothness when scrolling through the menu's. Which phone is good for me the Galaxy S II or the skyrocket? Please let me know your thoughts.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
If lte data transfer is not a concern. The definatrly the sgs2 much better cpu and gpu. Better responsiveness. No question what so ever its not an oppinion its a fact. I have owned both im keeping the skyrocket because i like the bigger screen and lte but my sgs2 was significantly faster
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] aretzios:
Well, benchmarks in a variety of sites show that these two phones are very close in performance, so close indeed that the users are unlikely to notice much of a difference. There are two reasons to move to a Skyrocket: the larger screen and the NFC support (although not much is using it at this time).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jpitch2415:
Benchmarks Mean nothing .....its a number

I have the vivid,SGS II, and the skyrocket. GsII is best ,then the vivid then skyrocket.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jpitch2415:
Oh and the og gsII has NFC too

And if you watch movies on the sky rocket there are lines in the screen
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] CraigP17:
Watching netflix and slingbox there are none of these lines people speak of. Couldn't be happier with skyrocket screen. It's just like people getting caught up in benchmark scores. They are convinced the screen just isn't good.

It's sad. And misleading to people who come here for advice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Not talking about bench marks. Did not even run them on my skyrocket. the sgs2 is significantly faster hands on with apps and opening multiple t.abs when web browsing. Its all around faster ive owned and used both devices extensively. And if you dont care about lte the sgs2 is hands down a better device. I like my skyrocket i like the lte and biger screen and i will be keeping it even though it is not as snappy and has some lag
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jpitch2415:
I have all three, if you wanna throw out I'm misleading go buy all three test all three for a day or two each then tell me the skyrocket is better.....

I stated my observation and its based off of fact not fan boy baloney

Boooooong
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] con_oner:
Gs2 for you no question.

Skyrocket: slower/laggy, screen issues/lines...all the things you here in this thread and others on this topic.

I hag the gs2 before switct to the skyrocket. Although I like the bigger screen and lte I miss the gs2
[HTC Rezound] edjm711:
While I patiently wait for root, I have the customization bug, most wallpapers don't scale up to the high resolution screen well,does anyone have any suggestions on some good, colorful, live wp's for this phone? I currently run digital hive and solar winds. Thanks!
[HTC Rezound] AtLemacks:
Don't waste your battery! lol, I never use those things. You can find regular 720p images in Google Search, DL and use!
[HTC Rezound] base0x02:
I think these are pretty nice:

Exodus Live Wallpaper Market Link

ICS Phase Beam Live Wallpaper Market Link

Light Grid Pro Market Link

Also grab a custom launcher if you aren't rooted and want to customize, customize, customize (Go Launcher EX is great as well as ADW , if you haven't already).
[HTC Rezound] sebastianraven:
WP Clock on the Amazon App Store is my fav!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] royalbloodvi:
As title says, there were some pre-release models launched on some Optus dealers, which is believed to be dated before Oct 26 2011.

You can tell if yours is pre-release defect model by:

Settings -> Build date -> If yours is built before Oct 26, your model is a pre-release

Green tint to your screen on low/auto brightness

Viewing a black screen, you will be able to see black spots & splashes inside the screen

Fuzzy static all over the camera

Noticable lag when scrolling left & right at the app screen

My build was Oct 19, 2011, and is defective of all of the above.

THE PROBLEM? To the average phone user, you wouldn't be able to spot these problems. I am a perfectionist, so I see all the small details and was able to quickly identify these issues.

THE ANSWER? Send it back to your local dealer to get it sent to the Motorola service centre to get it checked/replaced.

Other Aussie Optus Razr users please test to see if your pre-release models are also the same, apparently the local dealers either pretend they dont know they are selling pre-release models, or they genuinely dont know they've stocked pre-releases.

P.S. Please post your build date & if you have the same issues so rest of the Aussie community can be more aware of these defective models.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JainB:
This is probably the best post on the Razr Forum..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] zetsumeikuro:
Motorola actually has responded about the "black blotches" here https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/61777?tstart=30 stating it's not a defect. The app drawer stutters a little even on builds 10/26 and later, I think it's just due to the coding not being as refined as it could be. The app drawer stutters slightly when you first scroll the app drawer left to right, but after that there is no more lag/stuttering. The screen will have a slight bluish tint to preserve the life of the blue pixels/subpixels, but the screen shouldn't have a green tint. Another issue I identified not sure if it's normal or defect.. There is a tiny bit of light from the search capacitive bleeding out into the lower right corner. I noticed this while watching netflix and looking at darker backrounds. A few others have confirmed this and their replacement has this as well, but others state they don't see this. Wonder what is the deal here :confused::confused:.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Droidel:
Build date Wed Oct 26 18:47:38 CDT 2011.

Does this count as pre-release. It's not before Oct 26th.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] zetsumeikuro:
No if it's the 26th and later it's not pre-release. Anything before 10/26 is a pre-release model.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] royalbloodvi:
Yours is not a pre-release, but if you suffer from any of the above defects, may very well be.

Oct 26 build razr's seem to have none/close to none of the defects above, which is why it is unfair that we shouldd be using a pre-release.

At the moment, my razr is being inspected at the service centre, will report back soon and share the news with you guys.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ImAustinJacobM:
Mine was on the 25th, but I rooted, still good to send back???
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ImAustinJacobM:
And to note, I notice the back screen, the camera, and the laginess, I do not notice the screen very much. Where did you get this info anyways? P.S. I'm on Rogers as well.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] vdub804:
lol damn I ran to my razr without even being finished reading your post in full, whew oct 26 for me.:D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] robstunner:
Mines oct 26th and I have the screen issues.........
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kawa636r:
Mine 19 October and I have screen issues
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nailll:
Build Date is 29 Oct. Have this screen issue. No lags found at app drawer scrolling.

Here is my post regarding screen: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19394445&postcount=8 I think its more a usual behavior for most RAZR's OLED displays as motorola support team says. I've not heard that someone does not have this issue.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattiacris:
Is this concern also the EU razr?!

My data built is 17 Oct...but I don't have those problems..or at least I can recognize them:-)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nailll:
I think its worldwide. Mine is UK. Have you checked your screen in a dark room with black color picture in fullscreen?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattiacris:
Yes I ve tried but can't see problems with the screen...in the other hand, I have fuzzy camera and some other minor bugs in smart actions...

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..and sorry for the question but, can I ask you where did you find that build date before 26 Oct is a pre release? On Motorola website?..just to can prove to my seller the this is not the definitive :-)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] matticala:
651.73.15.XT910.Retail.en.FR here, build date 17 Oct.

No screen issues with black pictures... probably UK release is different (in fact those have a different boot animation)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattiacris:
My razr is like yours:-)..did you buy on Expansys?..me and other people who got the same razr,have problem with trigger location..is this because is a pre release? Do you think Expansys will substitute our razr?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] matticala:
Yes, got it on Expansys ;)

Actually smart actions doesn't activate GPS...but I'm at work, closed building. I'll test it more...

EDIT: Confirmed, Smart Actions doesn't activate GPS... the curious thing is you can't use position if you havent't wi-fi enabled.

About Expansys, I think i'll contact their quality service again (did it already because they missed car charger at first) noticing this situation. They won't be happy about this...

UPDATE: Just informed Expansys, let's see how they reply
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nailll:
I've got this reply on the "black screen" issue from retailer:

From my previous posts I've attached image which really seems like glue have not dried up. What do you think about such opinion?

Also here is similar problem on android central forum:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/droid-razr/132871-black-screen-blotchy-bootup-wallpaper.html

And here is a similar issue discussed with SGII:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1217047
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattiacris:
great!! if you don't mind, let me know what they told you about!:-) I think I should call me either...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Huey85:
my first razr was built on 26 oct but returned it due to constant restarting issues (which i later diagnosed as just being an issue with how my wifi connection was setup - razr's don't like hidden SSID's/MAC Address filtering on wifi routers)... my replacement is built on 19th oct... both my first and replacement razr's had the black blotchy spots on black images/videos when viewed in very dark rooms. don't seem to have any of the other issues though.

is there any proof behind this, that the devices built before 26 oct are infact pre-release models? we need some people from motorola to actually confirm this. and if indeed true.. .WTF WHY ARE THERE PRE-RELEASE MODELS BEING SOLD?!?!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ImAustinJacobM:
I call hoax until I see something that states from Motorola that this is an issue. If it is true, it would be easier to explain to stupid Rogers employees as well.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] didibabawu:
Mine is Oct 18 2011 but I cant identify any of the problem you mentioned. But I do have a issue with the touch screen, its just not as precise as my old nexus s.

BTW what is actually a pre-release models? Is this ok for them to sell a pre-release model as a retail model?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattiacris:
I agree..!we need some proof!:-)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] cathain:
Just got mine today and haven't noticed any of these problems?

Build date is 29 Oct and version is UK XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nubia11:
my build date is oct 26th should that be ok?

---------- Post added at 09:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:45 AM ----------

This is a riot ..... this is the exact build date and time exactly as mine ..... to the second.... what a riot!!!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] deffjeff:
I have mine with build date the 17th of October, and have none of the issues described by the topic starter. I have the FR XT910 (expansys). As with any product that is mass produced there might be issues; I think, as Motorola was planning to do a more of a consecutive launch of the product, that they were just building up stock, to ship out; happens in a lot of cases. I recommend if you have issues to wait until maybe they come up with a patch for certain issues, and if it is hardware related, to contact your reseller as soon as possible.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kholk:
Sat Oct 29 15:40:46 CST 2011

651.73.17.XT910.Retail.en.EU

Got all the problems listed in first post, apart the NOTICEABLE lag. It isn't that noticeable and happens randomly.

Someone else in other threads are experiencing heat or excess heat. Mine doesn't suffer of this even after 30 minutes of playing on webtop with HSPA+ connected.

Anyway, I think this is a software problem, not an HW one... It's the display management driver that goes crazy: when an OLED screen is black it implies the implicated LEDS are shutted down completely (that's why AMOLED is powerwise). In RAZR case, only some of the LEDS are shutted down completely.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nailll:
I really hope your a right here, but watching black blotches pattern on my screen its more looks like to have fluid/glue origin (hardware). If it was software issue, I would expect more systematic picture here, not random blotches. IMHO.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] garywojdan81:
Maybe, but I'd think that if it's a physical defect it'd be visible under more circumstances. Antutu has a tester app for free in the market that does a good job of stressing the screen & it does make the issue visible on the black screen. From what I've seen, it almost looks like a voltage issue not a pixel, or physical issue.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pOOBAH1973:
And how exactly do you know that? How was it pre-release, when it was released to customers? Are you talking about "pre-release" hardware, software or both? From what I know, pre release hardware is marked with a "Confidential restriced Motorola property...." label.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] asheg:
so this is only for Australians???

gsm versions that UK shops sell are fine???
[Motorola Droid RAZR] CBConsultation:
Here's mine. Seems fine. My screen is perfect.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DroidDont:
e-speculation at it's finest.

OP's been using his Jump to Conclusions mat.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] asheg:
ENGLISHMANS and englishwomen...

shall we worry about what was said in first post or does it applies only for Optus costumers?

i have ordered mine from UK (unlocked-mobiles)... i'm curious.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tipster36002:
faulty

my build date is oct 18. my screen has the blotches but not noticing any lag issue. the housing around the screen has also come loose as well as the motorola symbol on the front. the plastic around the camera and speaker on the back is also coming off. there appears to be a housing issue with the phone which is common in the early batches of the moto razrs... and the most bull**** part is that motorola says all these faults are design.. these faults make the phone not of merchantable quality and therefore illegal to sell. we should all rebel against motorola until we all get working models of the phone which are completely perfect!!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] desmonexus:
My RAZR is e. Retail FR model XT910 purchased from expansys.it

build date is 17/10/2011

73_SPU 6.5.1-build number-9

mine has problems with the phone randomly restarts by itself

I made ​​several restore to factory settings

I called and they told me eXpansys replace him

Sorry for my English but I am using google translator
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kholk:
OTAed and most of the problems have disappeared.

The problem of the black blotches are still here for me. Anyway for giving you a better reply on that I should have a look to the kernel source code, especially to the display management source, but it isn't available right now, so... :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Szadzik:
Haha, exactly my thoughts.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] onei0077:
Took my razor out of my pocket today and it was dead. 70% battery when I last saw it. Charger didn't help it. I'm now on my third razr. This is so strange never happened to me before but I still love it, as long as it happens with a in store warranty in place.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ruskival:
That's real bad and I can sympathize with you, when I had an xperia x10 I had it replaced 5 times within the 1st 8 Weeks, bloody kept song on me, my brother on the other hands never had an issue
[Motorola Droid RAZR] XT910:
thank you very much
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tipster36002:
On my second moto droid razr and the housing is faulty just like my first. Do not buy this phone it's a piece of junk!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] [TSON]:
mine is from the 25th. screen has a very very negligible amount of splotches, no app drawer stutter, no screen tint..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] drolgnir:
My build date is Oct 25 as well, never have been happier with a phone. Thin enough to sleep with it under your pillow, then the alarm doesn't wake your wife! I don't notice lag, have the blotches but don't have enough OCD to care. Capacitive lights do leak ever so little. I am sure many software issues will be resolved when ICS comes.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] opensourcefan:
It's funny, there are thousands of these phones out there and you go through two and make a claim that it's a piece of junk... You don't know jack my friend.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tipster36002:
i dont know jack? youre an idiot. there are thousand of people who have faulty housings on their phone but motorola refuse to acknowledge it as a fault. almost all the optus shops i know here are telling consumers not to buy the phones. you obviously dont know jack, motorola fanboy much?

and yes the phone is a piece of junk, thousands of brand new phones right out of the box should not have housing defects.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] garywojdan81:
What type of defect is it?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] opensourcefan:
So you came to this forum to promote that this phone is a piece of junk because of what you think you know. What is the benefit in that, what are you trying to prove, what would you like us to do. Shall we all return our non defective devices because you say so. Rather than call the entire device a piece of junk why not show some professionalism and deal with this issue like others have. Show us what is wrong, take a picture, maybe even explain it. Motorola fanboy...LOL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ruskival:
What Optus stores? U have no idea what ur saying because I work at one of the stores and we have not had a single return or a single issue, I have the phone and its running great, no issue no defects. Maybe get your facts straight before blasting a phone and the maker.

The only people that dont sell the phone are the ones that dont know how to sell it or apple fanboys who only sell IPhones

Get your facts straight then talk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tipster36002:
sydney stores you peasant. you people dont know **** you obv havent looked at your phones enough to release the poor build quality. maybe you should take a look at the glue holding crucial components together and see how long that lasts you, or maybe even see what happens if you bump the phone and the screen starts lifting, or the backing to the phone starts coming lose, then you will come and start complaining and all i will say is "i told you so"
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ruskival:
I have no idea... We have not had a single issue with our phones, customer phones or my own.... Maybe you got unlucky or the store got a bad batch.. That happens with any phone.

We actually jad that happen with IPhones and others in the oast... Either way.. If u dont like the phone dont use it and get something else and quit complaining... Whats with all the noobs flogging the forums.. I dont get it...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] shifty123:
Have an Optus Razr - build date Oct 18 14:32:25 IST 2011

No probs other than the odd re-boot.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nylream:
Hello,

Mine is born on the 17 of october.

I have most of the problem listed above, and one more with the loss of data connection.

I've just send a email to motorola and hope for an exchange.

ps: sorry for my english.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] RickROM:
My build date is Oct 26, and I have screen issues also. Noticed the tint looked weird, but I was able to fix that by turning the brightness up. Haven't really used the camera yet, but will check tomorrow to see if there are problems.

Just got my phone today. Never have seen anything like this on a phone. Coming from the Nexus S and never had this problem with the screen.

I have fairly large dark blotches on the top left of the screen. Also have small ones randomly dispersed on the screen, and a bunch of them along the bottom.

Found one dead pixel too. Haven't encountered a device in a while with a screen that was messed up like this, so I'm not comfortable keeping this past the 14 day trial period.

Gonna try and see if it goes away for some reason over the next day or so. If not I will be taking my device back to the store for an exchange... possibly just get the Galaxy Nexus instead.

Everything else on the phone is great, but this is a major flaw for me. I use my phone in the dark a lot, so it's something I will notice if it doesn't go away
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Xirix12:
Wow I have a rent-a-Razr and well yesterday i noticed the blotches on the screen. I somehow got a blank screen and noticed them I had also noticed the tint of the screen in low brightness. All of this before just now reading this thread. Build date on mine is Oct 26. I will be returning it to get the Nexus whenever it becomes available since i have until Jan 15 to return it!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] asheg:
i have all issues that u described but my build date is 29 october.. is it pre-release model?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pOOBAH1973:
There are no pre-release models for sale. If you had a pre-release model, it would be engraved with "Confidential Motorola Restricted Property: Not For Sale".

If it's not, it's retail hardware.

Easy rules:

If it's not defective, it's not defective.

If it is defective, it is defective.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ronak1:
on my second one

Well I nerded out and returned the first one mainly due to this thread and the fact taht rogers did not send me a micro sim even though i stated the phone needed on and the agent was " omg you are so right i will make sure" so to get the sim i sent it back and then sent me a new one...and yet again with the wrong sim...

I was hoping to get a new build date but it is from the 25th...I check at the store and tried to compare the floor model but it too was 24th...

rogers also told me that the phone is not a huge seller and that the 1000 units they have are most likely the same batch and same build date

now I have a few questions points:

1 can some one take photos of pre oct 26 and post so we can actully see the dif.

2 green tint not sure if this is not normal...lets see some photos...

3 camera fussiness...again photo of two "side by each" that's french cdn engrish for side by side :)

4 blotches i just saw them with black screen in black room...this will not impact my life...

5 the scrolling seems super responsive on both teh phones I have so i am not sure what the talk is...

Has anyone actually called motorolla and inquired?

Ok lets get a definitive answer...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Szadzik:
You will NEVER get an answer on this. Just above your post someone explained it exactly as it is:

pOOBAH1973

The matter should be closed with the above statement.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bejeweledman:
Just got my razr last night, and mine was built on Oct 18...but at least the phone's working very fine till now :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] RickROM:
I called Verizon, and no one knew what I was talking about. Went to the store, and no one knew what I was talking about. Took the phone back today for the Galaxy Nexus, and I couldn't be happier. See you guys later.