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[Motorola Droid 3] MerkXR4:
This is the point that technology is at man. Every company is going to make devices that cater to each type of person. These smartphones really haven't been out long if you think about it in relative terms. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years we start seeing the smartphones get narrowed down into a few types of droids and of course 1 or 2 ugly step cousins made by that Apple company.

So to answer your question, yea, there may be a big selection of phones out there and by the time you get used to using one it is already outdated, but that's part of the fun of being at the edge of how far technology has gotten us.
[Motorola Droid 3] MinionOfEckerd:
I don't think the problem lies with too many phones but personally I think the carriers and OEMs are taking way too much advantage over the position that they are in.

When I bought my OG Droid, I went with a one year contract because I knew that soon enough a new phone would be out to replace it. This turned out to be incorrect as that was when Android phones were still in their adolescence.

In July, when I finally decided it was time to upgrade to the Droid 3, Verizon no longer offered a one-year contract and there was no sign of a QWERTY slider coming out for awhile. So I felt confident in choosing the Droid 3...

Here I sit, 4 months into a 2-year contract, the Droid 4 is on the horizon and my only option when it comes out is to buy it at full non-subsidized price. Which brings me to my next point...

Why are the non-contract prices SO high for these devices?! The cost of production and materials cannot be THAT high to warrant such a price. Add in the fact that the Operating System (Minus Blur/Sense/Etc) is "free" (to an extent).

To me it just seems like if we want to go with a prepaid, non-contract carrier we have to pay a really high price for a good phone. But when we go to a contract carrier, we are stuck for two years (unless you pay $300+ to cancel the contract) and when a new device comes out we must simply ignore it or cough up $600-700.

Am I wrong or is this the truth? Pardon my rant. :D
[Motorola Droid 3] Androidsims:
I think Android phones are being released insanely fast. There was a time when I'd read about all of them but now it seems like 3-4 new phones are announced every damn day. And they're ALL the same. Dual-Core, 4G, Gingerbread.
[Motorola Droid 3] spacecasespiff:
Ya they are all the same for the most part. That's what I don't like. Just wish the carriers would slow down, and focuse on one or two phones. Just can't wait till my upgrade comes. Just afraid that the different ui's will be not be good for android. People need to know what android looks like. Its not blur or sense and those ui's slow phones down a bit aswell.
[Motorola Droid 3] Androidsims:
Google needs to put it's foot down and say no more skins. Skins should come as flashable roms from Moto or HTC, etc.
[Motorola Droid 3] i4mt3hwin:
No it doesn't. It completely goes against what makes Android so good. Developers like being able to brand their phones, something they can't do under Windows Phone and obviously IOS. Flashable roms would just be confusing and potentially unstable for the average consumer.
[Motorola Droid 3] spacecasespiff:
Ya but people don't know what android looks like because of these skins. People think that blur is android and its not. Goggle should at least tell then to have more phones that are stock. Why hide android? Most people put roms on there phones to get rid of the skins. I know that's what I do.
[Motorola Droid 3] i4mt3hwin:
This is probably true of people who mod their phone, but definitely not true of Android users as a whole. I would guess that less then 10% of Android users actually mod their phones. While it's a small sample, out of the 9 people I know personally that own Android phones, only 2 of them have modded it, and they only did it because I did it for them because they complained of the phone being too slow (Droid 1's). Although both recently upgraded to iphones.

The bottom line is the majority of Android users don't care about what their phone looks like or what Android truly looks like. The same way I don't care about whats under the hood of my car. A car gets me from point A to point B, what makes that happen is irrelevant to me. All I care is if the car is visually appealing to me. And maybe more recently MPG, because of the cost of gas is so god damn high.
[Motorola Droid 3] MrObvious:
Well the nice thing is, as long as XDA exists then we will always have a more current phone. If my Droid 3 would have not crapped out on me because of the screen I would still be using it at 1 GHz with the latest Gingerbread. Once we figure out how to mod the D3 better and better and if we do ever get the unlocked bootloader then our phones will still be just as current as the Nexus Prime or whatever is newer and better.

The specs of this phone despite not being 4G are good because the CPU and RAM are up there with the currently released high end phones (except the RAZR). We already have some good custom ROMs out there and I'm sure we will get ICS soon enough thanks to Hash.
[Motorola Droid 3] i4mt3hwin:
The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.
[Motorola Droid 3] MrObvious:
No the software is just that bad.
[Motorola Droid 3] doogald:
512 MB will be fine for ICS, I am sure, as the Nexus S will be getting ICS with worse specs than the D3 (i.e., single-core CPU).

It's very possible that Moto and/or VZW will not want to take the time to develop ICS for the D3, or push it out, but it won't be because it has "only" 512 MB of RAM.
[Motorola Droid 3] i4mt3hwin:
The Nexus S doesn't have a ton of bloatware on it. Verizon will have to port all the applications that are stock loaded with the Droid 3 2.3.4 build over to ICS. I'm going to go ahead and assume that ICS probably uses more RAM than gingerbread. Couple that with the crap software Verizon loads on the phone and there is definitely a case for ram being an issue. I mean the stock phone blows as is, run maps and music and it slows to a crawl.
[Motorola Droid 3] mikedyk43:
I think the over abundance of Android phones can be disheartening at first glance, but when you think about it, remember back a few years to when the original razr was the hot phone. After owning it for two years, you go in to get an upgrade to find that the best phone on the market is still a razr, but now it can play mp3s. If you use your head, you realize that all of these people who are worried about having the latest and greatest phone and go out to buy it as it is released still have a perfectly good "last month" phone. Hello Ebay. I saved my upgrade and bought a one month old D3 off ebay for $300. Use your upgrades when the RIGHT phone comes out, until then pick up the scraps from ebay at half price. Remember, even a used phone from ebay still carries a mfg warranty.
[Motorola Droid 3] kern417:
I agree with OP that there are too many Android phones and not enough variety. i think the main difference is that while the iPhone was originally locked to one market, Android phones were everywhere. Each carrier had their own version of each phone made by each manufacturer, not to mention their individual contracts for certain phones that ended up getting out to other carriers eventually (i.e. Evo). My issue is there isn't much variety, yeah they have small upgrades here and there and small differences but the main thing is once a 1ghz 4.3" screen came out, every company made one. Once dual core came out, every company made one. Not much innovation imo, just keeping up with the competition. And I still don't understand why there are barely any QWERTY keyboards, another reason why it seems like most of the phones coming out are the same.

For me it all has began to come down to the looks department. I know I want a QWERTY so i had limited options, but even if it was an all touch screen you look for one that you can live with looking at every day and bite the bullet. Chances are everyone else will have one with similar specs just different body design.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bzr:
Since I'm not yet allowed to post in the Dev forums, I am asking here. I downloaded the updated ROM that wildstang posted this morning but it wouldn't boot after flashing. I just now read the instructions about what to wipe but still wanted to know if I need to flash the second file located onder the ROM link or will just wiping the specified data and flashing the zip suffice?

Thanks,

-bzr

1 post closer to freedom!!!
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
Do all the wiping FIRST, then flash the ROM zip file. The second link is for the data throttle remover, and isn't needed for the ROM.

EDIT: If you just flash the zip file without doing the wipe instructions in the post, there's a good chance you'll have issues.

See this thread for what the DTR is/may or may not do.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bzr:
Thanks, just did the wipes/formats and then flashed. doing back up now and hoping it all worked well. I can always go back to 4.06...
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sbstnwright:
Hi. I have an unrevoked rooted incredible and I installed the jermaine151 ROM last night that has the 4.06. Is there much difference between that and wildstang's ROM that has the 4.08?

When upgrading from 4.06 to 4.08, do I follow the instructions for complete wipe (listed with wildstang ROM) or can I just do the 'upgrade' install that I read on that same forum?

I tried to follow the lingo and I can't post in the developer section (probably a good thing). How can I go from the modified 4.06 to wildstang's 4.08?

Sorry, I am a chemistry guy... If someone could direct me to the right spot... :)
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
You'll want to follow the instructions in Wildstang's post about doing the full wipe since you're coming from a previous modified OTA, otherwise you may have issues.

EDIT: You'll probably want to back up your current ROM first in case something goes wrong, so you'll have something to restore that is working.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bzr:
Who would have thought that following the instructions would work??

Thanks a million!

--bzr
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sbstnwright:
Anyone know how I can get into clockworkmod using jermaine151 ROM? Do I need to download the CWM boot sound file on that forum page- jermaine151 4.06 build?

I'll go ahead and back up my current ROM... Do I need nandroid? or can I copy some files off to my laptop to transfer back?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
You're looking to get into ClockworkMod Recovery to flash that file correct? You can hold down the power button (with phone on of course!), select Restart - Recovery; or with phone off hold both Power and Volume Down, you'll get to the bootloader, then with Bootloader highlighted press Power - wait a few seconds (make sure you don't have a PB31IMG.zip file on the root of your SD card) - hit Volume Down to highlight Recover and press the Power button again.

You should always create a nandroid in case something goes wrong, you have a recent backup to restore to. You can then always move your backup file (nandroid) to your PC in case your SD card dies, but it's always good to copy your entire contents of your SD card to your computer too.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sbstnwright:
I see how to get into there now. :)

Cool. Thanks!

I just read that there will be a modified version of the jermaine151 build to reflect the 4.08... I like the advanced power menu he has and the fast boot... I may wait for that.

Sorry for being newbie about all this.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RMarkwald:
No that's okay, don't worry about it! I am not sure how long it'll take Jermaine to re-base his work, he's pretty good with that stuff, so maybe by this weekend or so? That power menu was tweaked so a lot of what you see was added, but I cannot remember right now who had their hands in on that...but it is pretty nice!

I use Quick Boot from the Market to reboot, you have similar options, you can: Reboot normally, reboot into Recovery, reboot into Bootloader, or Power Off.
[Epic 4G General] alextjen:
Ever since I updated to ei22 my available RAM is virtually gone and its killing my battery. My battery usage meter says 78% of the drainage is due to the android system. I have tried doing a hard reset, using a third party app killer, using a different launcher, nothing helps.

::Edit::

I recently switched to launcher pro and it has helped battery life signifantly but system ram is still being hogged.
[Epic 4G General] Speedin07si:
I'm running the ACS ICS V4 rom. I have the same issue with android system eating up ram... but it has hurt my battery life at least not that i can tell.
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
You can give Cynanogenmod7 a try, it hardly uses any. It still has minor issues, but well worth a look.
[Epic 4G General] alextjen:
Im starting to think gingerbread is just larger compared to ec05. Im,getting waay better battery life and performance from launcher pro.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Get Memory Booster Lite from the Market. It has a great task killer and you can see what apps keep loading so you can freeze or uninstall them. The stock task killer is worthless.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Full memory doesn't kill battery, but flushing it and refilling it does. If you keep trying to free memory the system will just keep trying to fill it up again. It's how gingerbread works, keeping the most recently run apps in ram so it doesn't waste battery reloading them again. It should clear memory when you need it for something else. As far as the battery meter is concerned, they reworked the code in Gingerbread, so you can't compare usage to Froyo. It's possible your battery usage is coming from some app or widget you installed that's syncing all the time. The app killer is probably wasting more battery than it's saving.
[Epic 4G General] xopher.hunter:
I'm on ei22, with some bloat removed and fuju tweaks I can free up 210mb of ram
[Epic 4G General] mjben:
If you want to keep more ram free, use the V6 script. The V6 script will lower the ceiling of ram allowed for tasks rather than flushing it constantly and allowing it to refill- like a task killer does. Using a task killer will only kill your battery faster.

Also, this has been said in other words already ;) , keeping tasks in ram does not kill your battery. Once a task is loaded into ram it takes no additional juice to hold it there.
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
+1 on the v6script I can get my ram down to 125mb. In the task manager & 80mb in the running services.

Sent From my 1.4Ghz V6'd Legendary Epic >-<
[Epic 4G General] alextjen:
Where can I find the v6 script, do I need,clockwork mod and be rooted?
[Epic 4G General] ÜBER™:
Yeah you'll need root (I think) and you can find it in a search or look for the how to run v6 supercharger on gbking's youtube channel. Its real simple

Sent From my 1.4Ghz V6'd Legendary Epic >-<
[Epic 4G General] saramon:
Yes, you need Root, and Busybox... Most ROMs have this built in... Adrenaline Shot is nice too... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1236779, you can use both in conjunction(junction whats that function) and your phone runs sweet smooth like butter.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] nook-color:
Currently on Nook Color overclocked til I upgrade to the TF.

One thing I'm looking forward to is faster response from android apps like Kindle Reader. I read alot of reference type books where I have to go back and forth to the table of contents. For page turner books, the speed is peachy. But for jumping around in a book alot, there is notable wait time between when you move around within the book via tables and and links.

If I upgrade to a TF 1 or TF prime, will the internal navigation links in Amazon Kindle books be sped up dramatically ( with the Prime - I'm hoping zero down time ). I anticipate huge gains with .pdfs that render, but not sure about simple apps like the Kindle App..?

Thanks
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] Spidey01:
I don't own a Kindle or Nook, so there's limits to what I can say about either's app; I only use the Kindle one. It works sufficently quick for my tasks but so does my Optimus T, mostly pager turners as you call it. Do you have something (free) that someone here could download and test to a checklist?

AFAIK the Kindle app does not do PDFs on Android. Polaris and MyLibrary do out of box on the TF101 as do several apps in the market. For that feature Adobes is probably best.
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] nook-color:
I got my .pdf's covered with EZpdf.

Kindle app is just for reference type books ( frequent bookmarked and topic searching using index and Table of Contents ) I order from Amazon.

Anybody could test what I'm looking at, by opening a Kindle book anywhere on their tab, and jumping around in the book using bookmarks and Table of contents. Is there any delayed slowness. Not page lag, but slowness in executing the page loads as you click the hyperlink or swipe a page in the table of contents.

Thanks
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] Kumabjorn:
I just tested "Fifteen Thosuand Useful Phrases", a reference collection, using the Menu -> Go to -> Location and it was instant. Jumping from 342 to 8654 in miliseconds. And I'm using Honeycomb on a TF 101
[Eee Pad Transformer Themes and Apps] nook-color:
Thanks for the feedback Kuma

Much appreciated
[Optimus One, P500, V General] geeyoupee:
Voice recorder stops recording around 15mins.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

Im using cyanogenmod 6.5.8

I didn't have this problem before. I think it has to do with something terminating the app.

The first app that I used was Virtual Recorder by ANDRO IX and it recorded over 45 mins.

It seemed that after I used the new rom that it could only record to 15 mins.

I also tried using Voice Recorder by MAMORU TOKASHIKI but I have the same problem.

Any ideas?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] geeyoupee:
Any ideas?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] Sorry2U:
It could be your memory card,;)

how much space left in your SD ?
[Optimus One, P500, V General] geeyoupee:
I have like 10gb left in my memory card. I seem to have this problem when I started using roms.
[Optimus One, P500, V General] marius2du:
Same for me. Does anyone has a workaround for this ?

---------- Post added at 07:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:49 PM ----------

I have Xperia Ray with custom rom, 2 GB free left on SD card, I have tried with different sound/voice applications, but the record stops after ~ 20 mins.
[TouchPad General] VICODAN:
I haven't charged my touchpad for days and it's great since doctoring to 3.0.2
[TouchPad General] Slack3r:
Have you tried doctoring to 3.0.4 instead of the ota? My battery life is excellent and that's how I installed. Im even running the oc kernel at 1.5.
[TouchPad General] dmarchant:
My battery life doesn't seem to be any different on 3.0.4 as it was on 3.0.2 after the OTA update. Still outstanding compared to my Android tablet, android phone and Blackberry (which is dire).
[TouchPad General] pa49:
Running CM7 oc'd at 1.8 with WiFi on all the time and battery is great.

Keep your battery on charge whenever possible to maximise power.
[TouchPad General] scrizz:
my battery is the same on 3.0.4 as it was on 3.0.3 which is the same as 3.0.2

:D

You haven't confirmed anything.

You just stated you personal experience.
[TouchPad General] VICODAN:
I'll doctor to 3.0.4 and if you're right I'll change the title of the thread to "ota updates suck".

hahahah
[TouchPad General] Slack3r:
I wouldn't be surprised :D

Pretty much every ota i've done ever has ended badly, so I don't even bother trying anymore.
[TouchPad General] mouseym:
This is how i have found it too, battery life on android is dreadful, needs to be charged daily when in use, however when idling the battery life isn't half bad.
[TouchPad General] Himalayas:
I did OTA. The battery life is bad. It last only a couple days even I dont use it at all.
[TouchPad General] ace9988:
I updated to 3.0.4 and generally the battery life is unchanged....apart from a few moments where the alarm went off and the screen didn't timeout turn off after that and the battery drained in 5 hours from 60% to 0...very weird, it's fixed now after a reset
[TouchPad General] NikolaiT:
You'll ruin the battery keeping it on the charge all the time.
[TouchPad General] itsmebryan:
Mine is fine also. I only charge every couple of days.
[TouchPad General] VICODAN:
Doctored to 3.0.2, OTAed to 3.0.4. Only difference: no preware.

I guess lesson learned here is if you have preware it's better to run doctor instead of OTA.

Sent from my brick
[Kindle Fire General] labbala:
i was looking on one device on the bestbuy store and when i was

deflecting the device i could notice the a matrix of spots/dots on screen

that never disappear only if i hold the device in some angle it would be not noticeable...

so i wanted to ask:

1. Am I the only one that saw that?!

2. if i will put a protect cover on screen it will make this dots/spots not seen?
[Kindle Fire General] fishfuzz:
Perfectly normal. The glass is supposed to be Gorilla, so I wouldn't even bother with a protector.
[Kindle Fire General] labbala:
why is that normal ?

i haven't saw that on a PlayBook or a iPad or a Samsubg tab...

so why is this normal ?!
[Kindle Fire General] Xenoproctologist:
That's the grid for the capacitive touch sensor. On some devices it's more visible than others. I guess Amazon is using one of the more visible ones on the Fire.
[Kindle Fire General] labbala:
Since this is bothering me very much, do you think if i would apply over it a protector it would be non-visible ?
[Kindle Fire General] aimbdd:
Eh I can't see it on mine at all. Maybe It's just the display.

Sent from my HTC Evo 3D.
[Kindle Fire General] esoh:
I doubt it, but you can try. FWIW, I can see the dots, but they only appear at an angle with certain glare on the screen. Doesn't bother me.
[Kindle Fire General] Paging Dr B:
It's normal. You most likely noticed it due to light reflecting on it at a certain angle. My ipad had those, and my touchpad has them. I don't notice it unless the screen is off and its held at an off angle with a good amount of light reflecting off the surface. You don't notice it while it's on.
[Kindle Fire General] dnlsmy:
This was VERY visible on my Nexus One, but isn't on my Sensation. It's back on the Kindle, but you only notice it when.the screen is off. It depends on the display, and I think the more reflective the screen, the less you see.
[Kindle Fire General] CCrew:
It has both dots and also a grid matrix. You can see it on every one, just have to turn the unit *just so* to see it.
[Kindle Fire General] gd1147:
My understanding from a post on Amazon about the device is that its not a capacitve or resistive touch screen but an infrared touch screen.

Confirmed myself that it is not capacitive as you can touch it with anything and it responds, where my iphone and Captivate do not.

Food for thought. Has anyone else heard of an IR touchscreen before?
[Kindle Fire General] bogatyr:
Ive always been able to see the dots on every touch device I've owned. Just requires the right angle and light.
[Kindle Fire General] mewshi:
Yeah, they're just rarely used, because the technology has only been reasonably cheap/simple for a few years (iirc), whereas capacitative and resistant touchscreens have been around for much, much longer.

Also, touching the screen with a pen lid doesn't do anything for me. You sure it works with *anything*? I got it to work with a piece of moleskin, though, so... maybe it's just certain things?