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[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] savage24x:
My Xperia Play (R800x) was left on my desk for about 1/2 an hour while I ate dinner connected to the computer without anything accessed except for USB Storage mounted. I came back and I was not able to sign into my Google account because apparently I have bad credentials. The password has not changed. I then realized the bars were white. A reboot, plus *228 roaming update has not worked to fix this. Nobody touched the phone. What's wrong? Should I use flashtool or fastboot to make a nandroid first? The last thing I installed was Juice Defender. I am running stock 2.3.2, rooted and unlocked bootloader with fastboot.

EDIT: Apparently my account was suspended for violating the ToS... I don't know why though/:
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ksnexusone:
I bought a d3o case for my daughters sk4g and add soon as I put it on it started messing up. Screen went blank and started vibrating these weird pulses. I looked on here but couldn't find anything.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] GuestK0045:
u removed it to see if it mad a difference?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ksnexusone:
uhm yes, it doesnt freak out unless you put the d3o case on. then it starts vibrating these weird pulses and the screen goes blank.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] GuestK0045:
is it a hard case or soft? becuase sometimes the case my be pressing on the power button and pressing on the volume button
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] ksnexusone:
you know that does make since. those d3o cases are real stiff, especially the buttons. I read somewhere that people were cutting those buttons out with a exacto detail knife. I guess I will try to pry it away from my daughter to look closer at those buttons.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] GuestK0045:
Yeah that what happens to hardcase that's why I used the soft cover
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
This just makes me angry. Galaxy S 4G is getting an update to Gingerbread via Kies:

WHERE IS OUR UPDATE??????????

Do you think this update will help Vibrant development at all? Maybe Gingerbread GPS drivers can be pulled from it and work on our phone? 911 calling issue fix?

"Beginning November 15, a software update will be available for the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. The update will upgrade the device to Android 2.3./Software version T959VUVKJ6.

Devices upgrading to Android 2.3./Software version T959VUVKJ6 will benefit from various improvements based on customer feedback.

Devices upgrading to T959VUVKJ6 will benefit from:

Android 2.3(Gingerbread)

Google Security Patch

Camera enhancements

Wi-Fi enhancements

Note: The upgrade to KJ6 is NOT required. You may opt out of the upgrade and continue using software version T959VUVKD1.

Important:

This upgrade will not be sent to devices Over the Air (OTA / FOTA) - Instead, you must install the upgrade by connecting your Galaxy S 4G to a PC using Samsung Kies Mini software. "

http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1810
[Vibrant General] CharlieBoy808:
Yup. It pissed me off too when I read it. I'm hoping that we can benefit from this update. The more and more I look at it, it is starting to turn out that I might as well just pony up the cash for a SGSII.
[Vibrant General] badaphooko01:
at this point I don't care about an update, the only reason I would be interested would be to better my battery life on miui. Oh well I will my have my sgs2 next week.
[Vibrant General] dardani89:
Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics. I hope your planning on getting the international version and not the T-Mobile version. Don't let your compulsion reward the T-Mobile execs who failed us. I don't know about you but with stable CM 7.1 eb streamline kernel and my added ffc I've got a phone that hasn't given any problems and given me all the features that I could want from any newer phone. Just my two cents, not meant to tell you what to do.
[Vibrant General] Sugartibbs:
Got a text today from T-Mobile, today marks 1 year of being a loyal customer. What a joke!! SGSII, I think I'll wait a coupla monthes, see what else they got.
[Vibrant General] Haints:
EXACTLY what I was going to say! T-mobile smacks us Vibrant users hard, denying us gingerbread when other carriers are providing it to their Galaxy S customers, and our response is ... to buy a new, more expensive phone from T-mobile?

Not me. I would feel way too much like a $ucker. I'm not buying another phone from T-mobile. I'll go international on the SGS II or I won't go at all. And when my contract is up I'll remember how T-mobile snubbed their Vibrant customers.
[Vibrant General] dardani89:
To be fair Verizon is just as bad. It seems that the American mobile market is terrible compared to the international market. Say what you want about apple but at least they told the carriers to go shove a stick up their asses.
[Vibrant General] murse:
There's a link in the update to a Mini Kies for Mac. Is that new?
[Vibrant General] Jasonhunterx:
T-Mobile spit in our face they should at least allow us to get drivers
[Vibrant General] badaphooko01:
i'm getting one for $300 new and if its not up to par, I will sell it and make a profit. I want a bigger screen, the phone is fast enough for anything I'll ever do. Also there will always be something better around the corner.
[Vibrant General] mike_ekim:
If a car manufacturer sold 2011 cars that got a certain mpg, and in 2012 they sell that same exact car but they tweaked the way the car's computer was programmed so it got a better gas mileage, would the car manufacturer offer to reprogram your car's computer for free? Nope. Customers would pay more money on gas for as long as they own that car. Funny how nobody complains about free car engine computer upgrades that are available to similar cars with identical engines and computers (when it hits them in the wallet!), but we cry because our cell phones aren't upgraded to an operating system that is only available on different phones with different processors.

The Vibrant got one upgrade, from 2.1 to 2.2; if we are going to base our future expectations on the Vibrant's history, we should assume the SGSII will get one upgrade - probably to ICS.

Now back to your question: why get a SGSII? I think that for the most part people are first choosing T-Mobile, and second choosing the phones T-Mobile has to offer. For the most part the SGSII is 'better' than the Vibrant, that's why people are getting one. In a year there will be phones that are 'better' than the SGSII and people will buy those phones. That's why. :)

ATT is bad too. Can anyone name an American carrier that is awesome at updating their phones? You can name some examples from a specific carrier, but that same carrier will have phones that they 'should have' upgraded but never did.
[Vibrant General] nbhnohome:
Guys, be patient and wait for Galaxy Nexus. You would never have to wait again :))
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Buying a SGS2 On T-Mobile would be the worst mistake you could ever make. Didn't you learn a lesson from the Vibrant fiasco?

HTC and Motorola have both made statements on ICS updates. Samsung USA has not said one thing about ICS update. SGS2 on T-mobile is different from all the other variants of SGS2. SGS2 on Vibrant internals are so different that it probably requires a bunch of unique drivers not common to the other SGS2 variants. Trust me don't but the SGS2. You will be lucky to get ICS and if you do it will probably come a year from now, by that time the next version of Android will be out and Samsung will have LONG FORGOTTEN SGS2 on T-Mobile. Don't make the same mistake TWICE.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
Perfectly stated!
[Vibrant General] radioraheem:
From a chat session with t-mobile support:

Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...

You have been connected to ~Craig M.

Me: When will the Gingerbread update for the Vibrant be available?

~Craig M:* Welcome to T-Mobile live Chat. My name is Craig and I will be happy to assist you. For your reference my Rep ID is 1320828. Please give me a moment while I open your account.

Me:* Hi Craig. Thank you

Me:* I read this article today: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1810

~Craig M:* I have read your question and will be more than happy to assist you with your request. For the protection of your account, may I have the last four digits of your social please?

Me:* ####

Me:* I would like to know when a Gingerbread update for the original Samsung Vibrant will be available.

~Craig M:* As per the article, the update will start being sent out effective November 15th, however this is for the Galaxy S 4G, which is newer than the Samsung Vibrant.

Me:* Right, I understand that.

Me:* Seeing as Vibrant owners already feel somewhat ripped off by the Galaxy S 4G, I was just wondering if the release of GB for the GS4G had led to any new information on the future release of GB for the Vibrant.

~Craig M:* Unfortunately, we do not have any information regarding an update for the Vibrant.

Me:* Lovely. Well if you could please pass along my interest to whoever you can I would greatly appreciate it. Getting awfully tired of picking up Android phones from t-mobile that never get the upgrades that were originally promised.

~Craig M:* I can certainly pass that along. Did you have any other questions that I can answer for you today?

Me:* No that's all. Thank you for your time.
[Vibrant General] reuthermonkey:
if you want updates, get a Nexus.

Just that simple.
[Vibrant General] jneal9:
We were promised an update to Froyo. It took a bit of pressure to even have that released, but we got it. We were never promised an update to Gingerbread, so they have no obligation to give us one. And it makes no financial sense for them anyway, which is what it really comes down to. I'm not saying I like it, that's just the way it is. We will not be getting an update to Gingerbread.
[Vibrant General] lexluthor:
You are missing a big point here. Sure, nice car analogy, but what if you have a Toyota and they don't update your gas mileage, but Ford does update a similar model car? Would you still be just as likely to buy a Toyota next time?

That's what we have here. I have a Droid X and a Vibrant (and a Galaxy S 4G for that matter). The Droid X and Vibrant came out virtually within days of each other. I've had official GB on my Droid X for months now. Vibrant will never get GB. The Droid X also had Froyo months before the Vibrant. Both phones were released with Eclair.

So, when I'm getting my next phone, I'm certainly going to factor that in. I know Motorola/Verizon will be more apt to update my phone as compared to Samsung/TMobile (personally, I put more of the blame on Samsung than TMobile, but that's debatable).

Not sure about that. Buy a Motorola/Verizon phone next time because you are more likely to get future updates and it does affect Samsung financially. I doubt that too many people will make that a big factor in their decision, but, over time, the bad reputation could start to have a deeper impact to Samsung's financials.

It all comes down to the finances. Motorola/Verizon bean counters calculated that the upgrade to GB made financial sense and Samsung/TMobile calculated that it didn't.
[Vibrant General] Dougefresh91:
They're not giving us anymore updates. IMO this has been apparent for a long time. A $500 phone has pretty much become obsolete as far as TMob/Samsung are concerned. What I'm wondering is who's to blame? Did TMob drop the ball, or Samsung? Either way I'm leaving TMob, and won't be purchasing any more Samsung products. Screw 'em both. I will not spend hundreds on a new phone every year, which is exactly what they want.
[Vibrant General] Woody:
Anyone interest in a Morotola, maybe take a glance and Motorola's Bootloader policy here http://blog.opticaldelusion.org/2010/08/clearly-you-have-no-idea-what-efuse-is.html and here http://www.droid-developers.org/wiki/Booting_chain.

Since XDA is abound with noobs and hackers, it should be known that the EFuse chip will not let you change your bootloader or run any type of FastBoot-OEM Unlock. Just letting you know it will trip the chip and brick instantly.

I came from a Motorola that was never scheduled to get a 2.2 update and we hacked it and created our own, but took some serious time and support, none of which came from Morotola or our carrier. In fact our carrier released their "official" version of 2.2 and when we broke it down, found our code in the libs, modules,...Since open source, what could we do?

Just an fyi to anyone that is wanting to move to a Motorola (albeit the Atrix boot unlock was leaked, but as far as I know, that is the only one in the whole Mfamily).
[Vibrant General] thachosenone:
you guys should stop complaining and flash a GB ROM. Simple. first world problems, people....

there are a number of good, stable GB ROMs on here. And the vibrant is officially supported by cyanogenmod. What more could you ask for?

There have been 3 official updates, one of which was an OS upgrade. And those official updates sucked anyway. if you're posting on xda, chances are, you know what this whole rooting/flashing business is all about.

What features are you looking for in GB, anyway? crt and overscroll wouldn't be in it. Everything would be under the hood, and if you're complaining about an official upgrade, chances are you wouldn't notice the changes anyway.

Granted, vibrant GB source would be nice for development, but we're lucky enough to have almost the same internals (except for the aws radio) as the international version. No other galaxy s variant(other than the epic, which already has one) is capable of installing a ffc, are they? Consider us lucky in that aspect. And updates to other variants will still benefit us.

So stop the complaining and be happy there are devs still keeping our phones somewhat up to date. There is and alpha build of ICS in the works, isn't there?

HTC always uses that terrible Qualcomm processor, and motorola had terrible motoblur/map, which now looks a lot like touchwiz. And they both have locked bootloaders. Samsung doesn't.

Be happy we have the best screen technology on the market, on a network that isn't ridiculously expensive (AT&T and Verizon) or a data network that is known to be terrible (sprint).

Could be worse, we could all have LGs....lol
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
GB IS NOT STABLE

First off 911 calling doesn't work in CM. That is simply dangerous.

2ndly the GPS constnatly requires a reboot everytime you want to use, and still sometimes it fails to initiate.

3rd, I use my phone as a digital recorder and on GB roms the recording quality is really bad.

4th the in call speakerphone volume is very low even when you tinker with dspmanager.

5th batterly life is horrible

6th there is always a brief pause when you first answer a call. hello hello hello can you hear me now? hello? ohh there you are

The list of problems continues, and would all be done away with if we just had GB for our phone.
[Vibrant General] thachosenone:
It's plenty stable for me....i'm running simply honey v6 beta, thanks to explodingboy70 and Simone for their amazing ROM.

1. Haven't had the need to call 911...but since it's a Samsung based ROM, I don't think it would be a problem.

2.GPS had always sucked on the vibrant, but bullet provides decent enough gps. 400 mile drive, locked 85% of the time and provided navigation. I just flash bullet when I need GPS, which isn't that often.

3. My voice recorder sounds fine.

4. So does my speaker phone.

5. Get about 12 hours with heavy use, 18-24 with light to moderate use. Which is pretty damn impressive, considering battery sucking htc's don't even last a full work shift. I have data in my scrollable quick toggle, so I just turn it of when not in use (it saves a lot of battery)

6. No phone bugs whatsoever here.

Anything else?
[Vibrant General] Tpavey:
Except my car will always work. My phone runs android and I expect to be able to run the apps that are available for it. As more phones run 2.3 more debt will ignore earlier models. My phone may no longer do the things I got it for.

The whole pint of software is that it can be upgraded.

Back to your car analogy. There are recalls all the time. Samsung basically said f u when it came to our gps problems.
[Vibrant General] murse:
The biggest issue that I find frustrating is that Google fixed some pretty serious security flaws with GB, and what is still a great piece of hardware is left without those fixes. Now, I've decided to run a MIUI variant and some of these ROMs are fantastic. Regardless, T-Mobile really blew it.
[Vibrant General] Blown 89:
Exactly! Samsung can go F themselves for all I'm concerned. I'm not thrilled that they had a hand in the Nexus but unfortunately it's the only way to get around getting raped by the carriers and manufacturers.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
Motorola is having an unlock able boot loader in most I'd not all of their newer phones, so your whole post is sort of useless when it comes to that.

And there is less reason to mod a Motorola phone, anyways. "this is XDA, why else are you here?" aside, this phone is borderline unusable without modding due to the lag, terrible gps lock times and accuracy, and touch wiz force closures in boot which force you to reset your phone 5+ times sometimes just to get to the unlock screen to get on the phone.
[Vibrant General] N8ter:
I prefer touch wiz. The ones that do have touch wiz are overthemed and unsightly. Show me a GB rom that looks and functions like the stock rom and I'll consider it. I can't stand stock android, anything that looks like it, or those overthemed Roms floating around.

Performance and battery life fixes, in addition to security patches would come with GB. Security patches don't matter to you? A lot of businesses ban android precisely because the lackluster updates leave them too vulnerable to exploitation where security is a concern.
[Vibrant General] thachosenone:
Security patches can only be so good...if your business email is really that confidential, then you shouldn't be accessing it through a smartphone. or go get a blackberry...i'm sure they can use the business. And Android is generally meant for the general consumer, hence the plethora of device selection. If you are running a business, chances are they'll spring for an iPhone or blackberry anyway.

And...go check out simply stock, by explodingboy70. Same developer as simply honey. stock Samsung touchwiz firmware from the I9000. Like I said, the similarities to the international version help us vibrant users out a lot.
[Vibrant General] peddent:
I think we are all missing the point. A better analogy would be if you had a windows 95 pc and wanted to upgrade to windows xp. The option is there for you to do so but it may not work on the older model very well, but the choice is up to you to upgrade. We are being told sorry you just can't upgrade with no option on an OS that's supposed to be open source. You should have the option to take the chance yourself and if you screw it up then it's no ones fault but yours.
[Vibrant General] thachosenone:
Motorola is only unlocking their bootloaders due to the fact that they were failing to the point of being purchased by google. And those are only recent phones, and you still have to use a tool to unlock it. Samsung ships with it unlocked. motorola phones still lag if you use it to the extent of power users like us.

And battery life is better in Samsung phones than any other manufacturer. how many HTC/motorola users do you know always have to keep a microusb cable around to charge their phones? Almost everyone I know with a non Samsung Android phone has to keep their phone charging while at work.

The common user that knows nothing of xda/rooting/flashing seem perfectly content with their froyo vibrants. My brother, aunt, and cousin all have vibrants on froyo, and they're doing just fine. No complaints.
[Vibrant General] SamsungVibrant:
thachosenone is pulling random things out of his behind

Dude get out of here already, first you say GB on Vibrant is completely stable with absolutely no problems and now you are defending Samsung like they are God or something.

Half the stuff you are saying is made up nonsense and sounds like something a middle school kid would say.

I'm glad your brother, aunt, and cousin all have Vibrants on Froyo and are doing fine. However my brother, sister, father, mother, cousin, nephew, niece, 3rd cousin, and my unborn child all have Vibrants with problems.

Oh and my best friends ex-boyfriends housekeepers adopted son owns a Motorola and says the battery life is much better than on his old Vibrant. He says with the Vibrant he always had to keep a charger around, but not with the Motorola.
[Vibrant General] fulaman:
I agree with you 100%, but please don't get the tmobile version of the SGSII, it's by far the worst of the 3 (Sprints being the best, followed by AT&T). It lacks the powerful Exynos processor the other 2 Galaxy SII phones have.

---------- Post added at 01:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:07 PM ----------

Please, Verizon is even worse than T-mobile. Do you not remember how long it took the Fascinate to get Froyo? The Fascinate has the same model # as the Mesmerize and Showcase, yet there is Gingerbread for those 2 and nothing for the Fascinate.

It is also the only Galaxy S phone using Bing. This just tells me that Verizon hates Samsung Fascinate users.
[Vibrant General] thachosenone:
All I know is that the ROM i'm on is stable. and it's my opinion that Samsung makes the best Android smartphones today. And absolutely nothing I have said is made up. It's a fact that HTC and motorola ship with locked bootloaders. Only recently have they enabled a tool that unlocks them, hence causing a brick to be much more likely.

And as far as software is concerned, HTC and motorola are strictly phone/telecommunication companies, While Samsung makes all sorts of electronics. So of course software updates will come sooner, since phones are their main focus as companies.

As far as screwing over customers, AT&T just released another sgs2 with LTE a MONTH after releasing the hspa+ one. There was 7 months between the vibrant and the sgs4g. I got mine in November, and I wouldn't trade it for the sgs4g because of the lack of development, and the internal memory.

and for someone with such an unoriginal forum name, you seem to be against Samsung quite a bit.

If you hate your vibrant so much, go buy a T-Mobile motorola.....cliq 2....hahahahaha
[Vibrant General] thachosenone:
I agree as far as the epic 4g touch being the best phone of the original 3....it's just that sprint's network is so bad...I wish it had been T-Mobile's version.
[Vibrant General] fulaman:
I agree, Sprint needs to work on their network. Their 3G is utter fail, and their 4G is completely unreliable/not available in so many markets. Otherwise, I would switch to Sprint in a heartbeat. Verizon just is beyond bad, I know Tmobile has its issues too, but please don't go to Verizon, they are by far the greediest carrier. I personally have a Fascinate, I'm highly considering rooting my phone. I'm tired of this Bing crap and the constant lag I get with Froyo.
[Vibrant General] Woody:
I would be interested in knowing where you got this info. Not to prove you right or wrong but I know some devs that would be interested in this information and I'd like to pass it on. A link maybe? Not Motorola.com
[Vibrant General] Jasonhunterx:
Even with,all the problems with the vibrant Samsung is still the best an this phone seems to be there last mistake they have corrected them
[Vibrant General] thachosenone:
http://m.intomobile.com/2011/05/13/...ion=&q=htc+sensation+locked+bootloader&flip=0

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...versy-says-efuse/&category=classic&postPage=1
[Vibrant General] Woody:
Thanks anyways. This is old news. Also didn't see anything about an unlock key for either. I am mobile now, so that might be reason. Ill look into it more.