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[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pwraggcan:
Doesn't sound too good. Remove the battery for aboot 15 seconds then try to start it. If that doesn't work, send it to htc for repair. Tell them it happened after trying to install an ota update. If it is completely dead they'll have to replace the motherboard and they'll never know it has been rooted. Good luck.

Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jorjino2000:
I am not 100% sure this could help, but you can try:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-hd/

I found out that in Advanced Hack Kit there additional features, which maybe could help you.

Hope this helps.

Regards.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erfannorouzi:
it's can't help

it's a way for rooting your device not for repair brook devices

in iran we have a kind of device that's name is...(I don't remember)an when you connect it to your devices it's start repairing your device
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tylerwatt12:
Can i change the Google logo when the nexus s first boots?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djwyman:
Are you talking about the screen before the boot animation?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] imaliveone:
This is my first attempt at installing a custom Rom so a little nervous!

I followed the instruction exactly as per the thread.

Installed the zip from the Red CWM and after 30 min. my phone is stuck on installing update.... and progress bar is showing 0 percent complete!

What should I do now?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] imaliveone:
Just noticed that there was an error when I wiped Dalvik cache it says: E:Cant mount /dev/block/mmcb1k1p2

Could this be causing the problem?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] dman3285:
Did u really make a whole thread on this??? i have a Q&A section for this rom
[Samsung Infuse 4G] imaliveone:
Oops I saw that just now and reposted there, so much to learn! Sorry. Is there a way to delete the thread?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jayzion:
When I call automated line, like everywhere, the computers have a hard time hearing the tones when I press the keypad. ei: press 1 for English.

I know I have to increase the length of the tone but can not find it in the phone settings.

am I missing something?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dchibro:
I think setting your phone to long DTMF should fix your issue, which you can set in the debug menu.

Punch ##33284# into your dialer, Debug Menu > Enter your MSL > Scroll down to Others > choose Long DTMF

So yeah you need your phone's MSL if you don't already have it . To get your MSL you need to type "getprop ril.MSL" (no quotes) into a terminal like ConnectBot or something.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bizarre.static:
well hi, i'm up to buying one of these 3 tablets but its hard to decide

so i need some help

every one has its pro - cons

what would you buy?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Flyer:

Pros: Full android, market access, solid HTC devices, slated for at least Honeycomb update, 1 GB RAM, 1.5 GHz processor.

Cons: $399, possibly no ICS, not a ton of development so far.

Nook Tab:

Pros: Cheap, will be hackable like NC, lots of potential development, dual core processor.

Cons: No full android, no market, 1 GB for side loaded content.

Kindle Fire:

Pros: Cheap, lots of potential development, rooted one day 1, dual core processor

Cons: 8 GB internal memory, no sd card slot, no full android or market, laggy software:

Winner: You decide, based on your needs.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bizarre.static:
thats the thing , they have differences that make them appealing , all of them

if the nook tablet had a better design, it will be the winner, but i don't like its looks lol
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] MattG987:
Flyer has a micro SD card slot. Nook Tablet has a micro SD card slot. Kindle Fire has an 8 GB non-removable SD card attached directly to the board.

ROMs already exist for the Flyer, if you're willing to unlock the bootloader using the Revolutionary tool; Kindle Fire just got root within the first couple days, and it's a 1-click method; Nook Tablet is likely to be a fairly locked-down device (signed bootloader, etc).

HTC Flyer has a pen that works on its capacitive touchscreen. But it has a single core processor.

B&N and Kindle Fire stock ROMs are unusable to anyone who wants to do very much with the device. HTC Flyer is a bit better, but a non-stock ROM will usually be several months ahead in updates.

None of them run Android 4.0, and only the Flyer has Honeycomb on the way (at least, recognizeable as such; no idea what branch of Android the Nook Tablet is based on. Kindle Fire is branched from Android 2.1)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Flyer, no discussion, vastly superior spec
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Price.

10 char
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
The big things you all missed.

Nook and Kindle don't have these things.

GPS

Camera

Flyer has all those and you cannot add them with a hack.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
Incorrect. The Nook Color was an EXTREMELY unlock device, take a look at the forum to see what i mean. A guy asked a bn rep about the boot loader, he said it was same as the NC. NC's boot loader booted sd cards FIRST.

---------- Post added at 05:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:59 PM ----------

Nook Tab has microphone.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
That's right, I have the Nook Color, its UN-Brickable and the way it boots you can have the stock ROM on the internal and a custom Cyanogen or what have you on the SD card and boot your option.

.... Corrected the Nook Color did not have a mic, the Nook tablet does.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
Price difference for best buy flyer vs the downgrade in specs is well worth the additional funds
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jamus28:
Notetaking

I'm also considering the HTC flyer or the Nook.

My primary use will be viewing PDFs / PPTs and annotating over them.

With the nook tablet, I would just use ezPDF and a capacitive stylus.

The Flyer intrigues me because of it's supposedly more precise N-trig pen. I've only been able to find old reviews of the product.

What is everyone's experience with taking handwritten notes on the device?

Have there been recent software updates that improved the feature (eg thinner writing lines)?

Does installing a leaked honeycomb rom improve the experience in any way?

Thanks!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] if4not:
HTC Flyer now$ 299 at Best Buy!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bizarre.static:
i guess i'll buy the flyer, in general its a better device, better build quality and all

i wanted a device with honeycomb and the nook is more easy to root but i'll pray for developers to make some roms for the flyer
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] rbebber:
Bt is good for about 10 inches on the nook color, no mention on tablet, had nc and now view, much faster
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] AidenM:
It's perfect. I had a Nook with a capcacitive stylus - it sucked. No way. Get the Flyer, the pen is so much better.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] barry99705:
Yea, I was going to mention the new price. It's been that way for at least a month now. I'd go with a real tablet. That way you can load up the Kindle and Nook app on it and have the best of both worlds.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ERamseth:
very true. capacitative stylus on nook color was nearly useless. pen on flyer is fantastic. I use it daily.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
This is ABSOLUTELY TRUE. A capacitive stylus on the Nook Color was not just useless, it was frustrating as could be. I can't see that changing on the Nook Tablet, and teh latest GB update for the Flyer makes PDF annotation even better (no longer a fat line - regular ink-like).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jamus28:
Thanks for that info. I'm almost ready to make the purchase.

When you save annotations on a PDF, flattened or layered, does it save the full size/resolution of the original PDF or is it just a screenshot at the flyer's resolution?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bobzdar:
Kindle Fire: Buy this if you don't need/want any of the below

Nook Tablet: $50 more gets you more RAM, microphone, better screen, upgradeable storage via microSD

Flyer: $50 more (vs NT) gets you full market, cameras, GPS, BT, more up to date Android version.

Flyer + pen: $40 more than Flyer, gets you the ability to markup images and pdfs, take notes and do some other things. HC update will give ability to use it in anything.

So, $140 price swing from bottom to top, but you can do the most with the Flyer+Pen by far. Agree with the crappy capacitive stylus on the NC. I have what is probably the best one and it's not useless but close to it. It will work in a pinch, but if you want everyday pen input, just get the flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
Pretty sure its flattened, but can't check right now as my Flyer is on "loan" to a child who is comparing it to a possible iPad purchase (my feeling, HTC will win).
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] jamus28:
I think you misunderstood my question.

I read in reviews that the flyer takes a "screenshot" of the current view when you use the pen.

In the PDF note app, or whatever, if I zoom in to a part of a page and write a comment with the pen and hit save, will it just save a screenshot of that area of the pdf, or will it resave the whole, full-size PDF that I can then print out?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
When you save a PDF on the Flyer, it asked you whether you want it to be flattened or layered. The original question by jamus28 (which he indicated above) is not flattened vs. layered, but if it preserves the original resolution of the PDF, which I don't know.

As for the original topic, taken as a straight comparison of hardware, IMO the Flyer is well worth the extra $100 once you consider the micro-SD card, GPS, cameras, microphone, compass, gyro, and pen support (all of which are absent on the Fire) in addition to more on-board storage and superior build quality. With the Flyer, you are getting a $500 tablet for $300. In the Fire, you are paying $200 for a tablet that is basically worth $200. Amazon cut out a lot of features to get to the price point that would undercut the Nook, and it shows. While the Flyer is $100 more, its a far better "value" then the Fire from a purely hardware standpoint.

Now there are things to consider aside from hardware features and specs. The Fire was already a big seller, even before release. Its popularity will all but ensure a good dev community, and also a healthy selection of 3rd party accessories. Also, some of the Amazon-specific features are interesting, such as streaming videos (particularly for Amazon Prime members, which I am).

In the end, you mostly need to weigh what is more important, the better hardware specs of the Flyer; or the Amazon-centric features and likely better dev support and 3rd party accessory support of the Fire.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] ElAguila:
A couple of things to keep in mind. While the flyer has the scribe pen, there are not a lot of apps that can utilize it. I have found that I never use it. I would not get the fire for simple fact of of no micro sd card slot and little memory. If you are a user of the Amazon cloud service then it is an option for you. Personally I believe that the sense interface on the flyer is one of the reasonsHTC is slow to upgrade it. If you are looking for a decent tablet that has a lot of development (ie many themes and ROM's) you might consider the galaxy tab as well. If you are able to, I would go someplace like best buy and check out the tablets they have on display to get a feel for them.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
Sorry - can't check for you right now, but I'm pretty sure it saves the annotations with the PDF.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] blue blue man:
Flyer if you want the PEN

Flyer comes with foxit pdf app and another office app. You can use the pen to annotate a pdf, then save it as a normal pdf file. Work the same with ms doc files. I use those capsbility all the time. It is just great. If honeycomb ever comes, it willl be even better cause then you will be able to use the pen in other apps too.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Sweetpea8472:
But that leaves the question, can you still make screenshots then! I rather like both implementations: writing and saving with the document and writing to make a screenshot...

A note: I don't know about the MSDoc files, but with the PDF app, you only have a limited number (actually, only 1...) of pen type choices... You can chose your colour and pen thickness, but not the pen type.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Yes, you can still do a screen shot any time you want in HC
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] butterflygirl:
I have had a Fire for two days now. The only benefit that I see to it is the Amazon streaming app. It works very well on the Fire. On my Flyer playback is jerky both through the browser and through the app that someone pulled off the Fire.

Sometimes on the Fire you have press a button twice to get it to register. Also, the web app sometimes shuts off and restarts. When it restarts it asks you if you want to reopen your tabs.

The Flyer is better overall in my opinion.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
On my Flyer I get to have the best of both worlds, an e-reader that does so much more. I realize the apps don't have the same full functionality of the dedicated e-readers but the apps are more than sufficient for me. I'm a big reader and I wouldn't trade my Flyer for either device.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dbpaddler:
Don't know if people care, but apparently the universal microUSB on the Nook Tablet is not so universal. You have to use the stock cable to charge the NT. Any microusb will work to connect to a computer, but only the stock cable will charge. Was pointed out in some comparison review I read.

I couldn't use the Fire if I wanted to. My work folder thrrough Sugarsync is over 8gb. So the Flyer is useless. So is the NookTablet unless I resort to a microSD card, but why should I have to when there is unused embedded storage going to waste?

Sent from my SPH-D700
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] matthew2582:
We have had the Fire for a few days - we wanted to see if it made my wife want to adopt the 7" as a useful and useable form factor for her - and while the Fire is a terrific device for the money - it is going back

No comparison to the Flyer and here's why and why the Fire is going back

1. Too walled in - no widgets, no 3rd party keyboards like SwiftKey etc

2. No Android Market without very very complex hack

3. Lousy email client compared to the gorgeous Flyer split pane email client

4. No volume buttons - if you play games as my wife does - a ton - not being able to access volume buttons once a game is underway is a real pain - for her

5. No Google Services like Calendar or Google+ or Google Picasa (although I sideloaded Google Voice which works ok)

6. While the Fire is well built, it in no way compares to the style and elegance of the curved, brush aluminum body of the Flyer

7. While this is a Fire software issue which can be fixed in a future update - the notification bar is crippled and does not keep notifications - so, for example, if you don't notice that an email has come in, you don't know if you have any email (or any notification events) unless you open email client

As a previous writer has said, the Flyer is a $499.00 device selling for $299.00 and while the Flyer was overpriced at $499.00 (although not compared to the Playbook which was $499.00 retail at launch - and which the Fire very very closely resembles), the Flyer looks and feels like a BMW compared to the Fire's Ford Fusion.

Our takeaway should be - the Fire is great for the price if the above comments do not matter to you.

They just do matter too much to us.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] globatron:
Item 4 on your list would be a deal-breaker for me.

Other than that it's just a question of time, so it depends on urgency. I wouldn't buy a fire right now anyway, that's for sure.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Whoa, a tablet without volume buttons is crazy. One of the main purposes of a tablet is for viewing media, and I agree that quick volume control is a must. I know Amazon stripped out a lot of features to get the price down, but I think they went too far here. A previous post made a comparison of BMW vs. Ford Fusion, but this is like buying a car without a steering wheel!
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] mcord11758:
The reason I picked up the Flyer was because Best Buy dropped the price to $299. I was considering the Nook Color at the time. With the price drop it was a no brainer. The Fire and Nook are great as a cheap replacement to an actual tablet. The Fire less so. The Fire is cheap and that is about it. It may be the lowest price point but it is not without good reason, it is the lowest end reputable device you can purchase. It is something my wife may like but would probably complain about things like the volume button. For anyone actually looking for a functional tablet it is a fail
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bogatyr:
Personally for me, the lack of dual core took the flyer off the table. After using so many dual core phones and tablets, single core ones always drag to me.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dbpaddler:
I've owned a Transformer and Streak 7 and currently own an a500. My View doesn't feel any slower than any of the 3. My rooted and rommed epic doesn't feel slow either compared to them which is one reason I have zero desire to upgrade my phone to anything dual core, unless a slider with better screen and improved keyboard surfaces.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] dstrauss:
Unless the software is specifically written to take advantage of two cores, the "dual core" logo is an advertising advantage more than processing. The raw speed advantage of single core 1.5ghz over dual core 1.0ghz has been very apparent in the responsiveness diffference between my Flyer and the likes of Asus Transformer, etc. Am I future proofed - absolutely not - but for $299, I'll play in today's pool and take that up next year with a quad core HTC Android or Win8 tablet.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] butterflygirl:
My Flyer sems faster than my dual core tablets.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] redpoint73:
Yup, unless the app is coded for multi-core, a higher clocked single core CPU will actually run the app faster than the lower clocked dual core. Multi core will only be evident when switching between apps, and running background processes. Many people on here that have compared the Flyer to dual core tablets, say that the Flyer is smoother and more responsive.

---------- Post added at 06:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 PM ----------

Back to the original topic of Flyer vs. Kindle Fire, a separate thread links an article which is pretty appropriate to this discussion:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1357450

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-gadgeteer/thinking-of-a-7-inch-tablet-dont-forget-the-powerful-htc-flyer/5271

In particular:

It’s funny that trying out the Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet rekindled my desire for my HTC Flyer and put it back in my hands more than ever.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] bogatyr:
No app Ive run on any of my Android devices maxed my processor individually. The issue for responsiveness for me is due to multiple processes between multiple apps and the core OS. Every Android device has had lag but the dual core ones have always been less noticeable.

Android specific devices I've owned: Eris, Incredible, D2 Global, Droid X, Thunderbolt, Xoom, ThinkPad Tablet, Nook Color, Nook Tablet. There has always been a standout difference from single to dual core in them - regardless of rom.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] matthew2582:
I should have been clearer - the Fire has soft volume buttons but no physical buttons. And these soft buttons are not accessible once you start a game, although they are accessible in other apps such as music player
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
I don't know what you have running in the background on your devices, but I have the Asus Transformer and the Flyer, both running Honeycomb and the Flyer is almost always snappier than the Transformer. I can't think of a situation where the Flyer will lag on anything except the rare occasion where i am installing a new app or update, then the Asus will lag momentarily too while the D Cache rebuilds. Since Android really does not let you running multiple foreground applications normally, it's a wash except for profiling apps like quadrant that extrapolate potential CPU performance based on multiple cores.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dzontra11:
Hi,

Just to ask about anty virus,,which one is good ?

Tnx
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dyskmaster:
trust me, you don't want antivirus on this thing. They do more harm then good... but if you insist, then AVG has an antivirus suite (the pro version costs, like, 10 usd). Like I was saying though, save your money and just be wise when you are exploring the market/installing apps. One rule to follow is if it looks too good to be true... it probably is.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Floating Point:
The only security software I would pay for my Android devices it's for a Firewall, I'd love to block some apps. from connecting to the internet.

For AV, Dyskmaster said enough - for Android, the best AV it's the user good sense.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kxnzxmori:
Try out Zoner Antivirus. It's the only free AV that works. The others are useless. For paid AV, get Kaspersky.

More info - http://www.av-test.org/fileadmin/pdf/avtest_2011-11_free_android_virus_scanner_english.pdf
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodintentions:
The way android built, kinda hard for a virus to linger in it.

Just try to imagine this. Windows is like lasagna. Too many places for a little bug to hide. You can't really dig into it to find a little insect without destroying the dish.

Android is like ravioli. You have an app misbehaving? Just pick it out of your plate and throw it out.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dyskmaster:
nice analogy, but I wonder what that makes osx? I would have to say soup because apple will just say that the bug is in there to add "flavour". (osx is very insecure however, most people won't even think about it because "macs cant get viruses" but anyway... nowadays, most all viruses propagate not because of flaws in a system, but because of flaws in the people who run the system. :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blde99:
You may find this useful when deciding

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/14/android_anti_virus/
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dzontra11:
Thank you guys!
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CrazyPeter:
Android doesn't really need Anti-virus, thats a myth spread by Apple.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blde99:
Granted, but as long as there are AV packages out there, people will ask about them.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] archabaddon:
Hello all,

Wanted to thank Wildstang for the 2.3.4 update, but I was messing around with my wife's phone that got a botched OTA update and accidentally used the CLEAR STORAGE function on HBOOT in order to clear the cache. Instead, I've cleared all of her data, which wouldn't be horrible accept that many of her pictures were still on the phone. Those she hasn't posted to Facebook may be gone forever.

Is there any way to recover this lost data? Otherwise I am probably headed to divorce town.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] archabaddon:
Right now the phone is sitting on my desk, I haven't touched anything accept connect it to the USB. The USB drives show up since I have the UnRevoked USB driver, but when I click on them they say "Please insert disk into drive x:". I was hoping not to uverwrite any deleted data in case it can be recovered, but considering it's flash memorey, I am probably more than hosed. Is that correct?
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackbtha1:
U can try running a recovery program like this http://www.piriform.com/recuva after you boot the phone and mount it to you PC. The app is pretty simple to use, just select the drive you want to try and recovery the info from. I hope it helps cuz I know "If the wife ain't happy, u ain't happy!"