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[Nokia Lumia 800] Dousan:
It defo is one slick and awesome looking device. It's like half of it for me and that's one of the reasons the 4S is not working for me, it's a great design apple came up with for the 4S, but to B&O 90's imo. The user experience is top nudge, but to concervative in a way and the UI is to bright on IOS.

Regards Dousan...
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
I do love the CC-1031, a case that makes you phone look like it's not in a case.
[Nokia Lumia 800] junglebungle:
Well I've had it for a few hours now and I LOVE IT, fantastic bit of kit and very sleek design, intuitive and snappy, really like the minimal feel of the OS and how it integrates social stuff onto your live tiles, I recommend getting one!

The 4s is going up for sale now :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boburto:
Sure give it a few days as least. The OS is fantastic but i still consider the iPhone to have better hardware, but that's my opinion.
[Nokia Lumia 800] junglebungle:
Yeah it does have better hardware, I get so bored of phones quickly though lol that's the trouble with me:eek:
[Nokia Lumia 800] Dousan:
That's good to hear mate :)

How do you find the sound in the earplugs compeared to the 4S. I've just read here on this forum that alot of people is really not satisfied with it and the lack of bass?

How about that blue tint on the screen when watched from an angel. It's most visible on a white/light background. I've heard of it from reviews and seen it on the N9 wich has the same screen. Only had a breaf look at the N9 though.

Must find time to have a play with the Lumia in a shop soon.

Regards Dousan...
[Nokia Lumia 800] junglebungle:
I've not tried the earphones yet but I will and get back to you, in regards to the blue tint, yes there is one, there was also on on my 4s too, but when you do you sit looking at the phone from the side? :)

The blacks are so deep on it and the colours are really vibrant, looks better than the 4s screen to me.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Gnarfsan:
I will try to put my first experience with the Nokia ear buds and the lumia into words:

"Aaaaaaaargh what is that horrible noice?? I'm going to die! Make it stop... Aaaaaaargh please no more!"

It's seriously comparable to or worse than a cheap digital radio from a Tiger store (Danish equivalent of Poundland and 1$ stores). Tinny as heck and flat as a pancake.

The sound is even pretty bad with mid range in-ears.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
Let us hope the audi/camera updates doesn't take too long to arrive.
[Nokia Lumia 800] stueyboy:
I listen to music on mine with the BH-111 bluetooth headset from Nokia and find that the music quality is really rather good. Might be my imagination but since the firmware upgrade, I think the bass is better. More of a problem is the mid-range / treble which could be less. An equaliser would be great.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
The problem only affects the 3,5mm jack.
[Nokia Lumia 800] stueyboy:
That would make sense. Hope the fix it with the promised firmware upgrades then
[Nokia Lumia 800] 17-apg:
The Lumia is such a great device and now with 11501 I have the battery fixed !! BUT the audio is still terrible throughthe jackI use Westone 4s). It is utterly useless with no bass and little in the way of mid range. It is just lifeless and I use my phone alot for music playing. I have a Jabra 3030 bluetooth module (much like an army personal info tag) and when I use it the music output is just great. So there must be something up with the way in which the music is delivered to the jack. Hope its not hardware :rolleyes:
[Nokia Lumia 800] Gnarfsan:
I went out and bought the BH-111 headset cheap (200 dkk). Sounds perfectly fine :) Thanks, stueyboy!

Don't take my word for it though. I'm no audiophile.
[Nokia Lumia 800] stueyboy:
Nice one!

Have you tried listening to texts through it. The voice control is great and allows you to read and answer SMS all through the headset. Very good
[Nokia Lumia 800] Gnarfsan:
I haven't tried that yet because people text me in danish, so it will sound like someone choking :D

But It would be really cool. I hope they port it some time in the near future.
[Nokia Lumia 800] junglebungle:
Voice control on the texts is great :)

my battery life is TERRIBLE :( I get half a day! I'm on 11500, am I best updating to 11501 ?
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
They're supposedly the same firmware. 11501 is what you can flash to your phone if you were unbranding or something. You'd lose all of the data. 11500 is what is being pushed out via Zune.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Gnarfsan:
I wish they would just push it out already. I'm still on 11451 and there aren't any updates on Zune.
[Nokia Lumia 800] stueyboy:
Well I have stopped worrying about battery life as it is now amazing. Don't look at the diagnostics and worry that you aren't getting a full charge. Nokia have said that this isn't an accurate figure. I had my bluetooth connected for 3 hours today and made calls and texts using it, have done the usual few calls and a bit of facebook and after 12 hours I have 64% left which is better than my previous android device by about 20%

It took a few days after the update for it to get to this level of performance, or so I think
[Nokia Lumia 800] junglebungle:
I must have a faulty battery or something because yesterday i had a full charge, and four hours later it died.... i was using it a lot though but 4 hours is a absolute joke and should last longer than that, think I can get onto Nokia about it? I brought it second hand though....

I'm thinking of buying another genuine battery and replacing it?
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
The battery can not be replaced in these phones.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boburto:
Of course it can... whether or not the process will destroy the phone is a different matter!

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That's probably why the seller sold it. You might have gotten a lemon. Sorry to hear that :(
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
It wont, look up the N9 teardown, it's not that difficult.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boburto:
Some people aren't very good at taking things apart. Some people are, that's why i didn't say it was impossible :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] junglebungle:
The battery can be replaced as I've already dismantled the phone and got to the battery, I see a genuine one for sale on eBay for £10, I might give that a go if no good I'll get in contact with Nokia and the original seller to help with warranty.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
seems a little cheap to be a genuine Nokia battery. The last "genuine" battery I bought for a Nokia on eBay definitely was not as good. When I bought another, direct from Nokia, it was $50USD and performed much better.

They're getting really good at making the batteries look like the real thing.
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
Got this phone couple of days ago. Trying to replace from an iPhone 4s. So far i am having doubts.

The speed of the lumia is great, just as snappy as my 4s. I think the camera is alot better on the lumia also after comparing photos taken from my 4s and lumia. App wise, not that fussed just a few apps i would like to see like skype(coming Soon) and PayPal as i sell stuff a lot.

Now after using my lumia for a few days I have noticed terrible battery life. An example of this would be today. I was at work and have to keep my phone in a locker which is located downstairs of the building and receives no mobile signal for my network. All background apps were turned off. Left my phone in my locker with 72% battery and 5 hours later after work i got my phone and it was down to 42%. That is pretty crap to be honest. The battery life is the only thing swaying me back to my 4s.

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I have Firmware ending 11501, people are saying battery is fixed. Emmm i don't think so lol
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
The battery life on the Lumia improves over the course of a few weeks.

Are you stating that you had your phone in an area with NO signal for 5 hours? If you do something like that, it's very wise to put into airplane mode. The constant searching for a signal is a huge battery drain compared to just having the signal.
[Nokia Lumia 800] jj14:
^^ This! If your phone radio is on and actively searching for a signal that doesn't exist, it will suck your battery dry.
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
Thanks for the advice, i have just went through my phone just now and change alot of settings, e.g location services, sync for certain things like xbox live etc. + a few more. I will run my battery dry and then charge it. What would you say would be the ideal charge time. As with my 4s i just charge my phone over night, 4s lasted just over 1 day on heavy usage.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
Keep the same charging practice as with your 4s. And... Remember to put in airplane mode before leaving phone without signal for a long time.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
First night my Lumia went down 25% in 7 hours sleep. After one charge that number changed to 1% per hour in standby.

After just 3 charges and running the battery empty one time (it died at 10-15%, but started charging from 1%) has dramatically improved my battery life. Yesterday it went from 100% to 94% in 9 hours standy (I used it a very short while before going to sleep too).

Usually I charge overnight always. But it's a good time to test its standby time.
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
I think i will do that. Leave my phone overnight see the standby time. I let my phone completly die last night. Charged over night so wilk see what its like later. It dies about 00:30 after getting up at about 11am. Sounds good but i wasin work for 5 hours also. Anyway i will report back any improvments.
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
I have a picture comparing the camera of both the Lumia and the 4s. I can't upload until i have done more posts. However my findings are rather impressive.

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I also thought this was rather surprising. This is a comparison of the cameras in both the Lumia (Left) and iPhone 4s (right) Both have there default settings and with flash turned on. I think the lumia's pictures are a lot clearer. What do you think?
[Nokia Lumia 800] junglebungle:
I think the 4s camera is better, the colours look more natural, the lumia looks washed out and dull, and has a blue tint to it.

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According to this it's genuine

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-...ultDomain_3&hash=item23190cdbc9#ht_1463wt_732
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
I know exactly what you mean about the blue tint. It really annoys me that i cant shift it. However on the 4s the picture is more colourful yes, however looks more blurry especially on the barcode area. The lumia looks more natural. Anyway im not trying to convince anyone different i am mearly just getting peoples opinions.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
The 4s seems to have better lens compression, creating a less augmented/warped image. The Lumia may have traded that off for a wider angle?

Thanks for linking to this. It doesn't come from Hong Kong, so is most likely genuine. I haven't seen a phone battery that cheap in forever.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
The 4S has the superior image when I look at the examples above. Very much superior when it comes to natural colors. Let's hope the future camera update will fix this for us.
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
Any idea when this update will come out lol. Seems a lot has to be done in next update.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Dousan:
I have a question:

How is the screen on the Lumia compeared to the screen on the 4S in your opinion?

I've tried both the Lumia and N9 in shops and think it kind of looks like a newspaper print at times. Txt loaded on the same web page i can see on my 4S, it's just hard to read or not readable at all untill zoomed in on the Lumia and N9.

I'm very drawn to both devices i'm just put of a bit by that pentile screen as it's not as crisp as the 4S.

What is your experience comming to the Lumia from a 4S?

Regards Dousan...
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
I love both screens, The 4s yes is very clear, but so is the lumia. I find it very hard to say one or the other. I love the font on the windows phone, so easy to read and yes so crisp.

I have just turned the brightness right up on both phones and opened the exact same email on both. The font on the 4s is a lot more "rounded" easier on the eyes. However both screens are amazing. Don't get me wrong i am really happy with the lumia screen.

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Might not make much of a difference but i will take a picture of both side by side to see if you can notice anything. Might not be great. I will take the picture with an iphone 4.

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Here is a comparison of the two phone screens.

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Doesn't really do much for the screens, as they look a lot clearer in person. Its hard to show how clear they both are and how hard it is to decide which screen is superior in my eyes. Someone else might be able to give more of an opinion.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Dousan:
Hard to see the difference in the pics. It's just that i have an eye for details (kind of ocd that way) and it's not that i dislike the pentile screens i'm not sure that i like them as in i'm willing to sell my 4S to trade in? Well just have to go and test it out again and make up my mind this time :rolleyes:

You're right about the more 'rounded' look on the 4S is easier to the eyes.

Thanks for your input :)

Regards Dousan...
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
No problem happy to help. I think the lumia is so impressive to me is the fact i had iphones and only iphones since they first came out. Its great to have a change of the usual fonts, homescreen etc.

Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express
[Nokia Lumia 800] tissotti:
As a ipod touch, iPhone 4, N9 and Lumia 800 owner the screens are way different on the two.

I got a say reading text on iPhone is less a stress to your eyes. Not that it's major problem (hasn't been for me), but there is a difference.

Nokia's Clear Black AMOLED display in a other hand looks great on Harmattan and WP with high contrasts between the black backgrounds and bright colors of the icons, tiles.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
I too, was sceptic about the pentile screen before buying the device. I have always disliked phones with pentile (without really using them) as they are not as sharp and looks somewhat "out of focus" compared to others.

I can say now though after some days of use that it doesn't bother me at all anymore. The rest of its characteristics makes up for the pentile screen. Such as the deep black it has and the response time compared to my old sharper screen. I would take this screen over the 4s screen even though it's sharper. I can not live without amoled blacks once I've gotten used to it.
[Nokia Lumia 800] agp64:
Where is the option to vote, Great phone shame about the quality off the photos it takes.

I was hopping the Nokia 800 picture quality was better then my LG E-900.

Sorry Nokia you dropped the ball on this one.:(

Hope you get it right on the 900 and 910.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
The camera is confirmed to get an update that hopefully will make it a lot better.
[Nokia Lumia 800] agp64:
Thank,Yes I know it is going to get an update. (Just hope its not the lens quality) I expected better from Nokia, My old E75 with it's 3.2 megapixel camera. takes better photos.

Still love the phone though, I will pass it on to the misses when the 910 is available.:D
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
I'm pretty sure it's a software issue since the photos look sharp. It's just that it is terrible at white balance settings casting a blue tint on most things.
[Nokia Lumia 800] arkedk:
My first impression was mixed.

I had to go through 2 faulty devices to start with.

Then the 3rd had proper build quality, but now I got poor battery life and still no update to the latest firmware. Nokia said on it's own official blog 3 weeks ago that all NL800 devices should have the new firmware update within 2 weeks.

If they don't do something to fix this I will be even more disappointed with this device. I really like WP7 and the design of the NL800, but these issues is to much for my liking right now.
[Nokia Lumia 800] 17-apg:
The vote is at the top of the first page.

Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
my battery seems to be getting better, i use my phone alot during the day etc. And just now im on about 20% charge time in about 2 hours when i go to bed.
[Nokia Lumia 800] emuneee:
I just received my Lumia 800, which I won as part of the WPNewYear promotion (first 500 US developers to submit an app in 2012 won one).

I've been using Samsung Android devices for the past year and a half (was Captivate, now Galaxy Nexus). My first impression? How reassuring the build quality is compared to those Samsung devices. I am not a fan of the loose buttons though, they rattle.
[Nokia Lumia 800] 1orka:
When resized all photos look sharp.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dk_iceman:
Hey build issues did you have with the first two devices ??

I'm also still waiting for the last firmware 11500 update, and the four devices i sold today didn't get the 11500 update either when i updated them in the shop.
[Nokia Lumia 800] arkedk:
The first one I got was not properly seated in the casing on the right side of the screen, so when using the phone it had an annoying click sound when using the touchscreen.

The second one had a scratch on the inside of the screen.

And this third one has bad battery. Now the release of the firmware update is going to be during next week according to a Danish Nokia technician.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Alfi91:
Brilliant.

After being a user of android for the last 3 years since the release of samsung i5700(iv changed around 5 phones on the way all of them android) and the iPod Touch 4g for the last one year, the lg optimus 7 I got as a second hand phone was a breath of fresh air. I couldnt believe how a phone with a first generation snapdragon could be smoother than my desire s or my friends Galaxy S2. I used it for three weeks and decided I needed to upgrade to the best WP7.

Nokia lumia 800 was even better than I expected. Picked one off ebay for half the price it was on the highstreet. And it has really blown me away. The screen is fantastic. The device itself is the most beautiful object iv ever seen. Perfect in every detail. Its design puts every device iv used to shame (yes even the white iPhone).

The functionality of the phone is top-notch. It fast, blazing fast, and works perfectly out of the box. It may be my luck but the phone i got 4 days ago had the latest firmware and OS. So things just worked. And IE on WP7 is the smoothest mobile browser in the market right now.

And the screen, its definitely on par with the best. The other choice I had was an HTC Titan and using both phones in carphone warehouse i felt like the lumia edged out on the titan because of its screen. And I'm not particularly interested in mini tablets (the titan is huge).

If you are thinking of getting a new phone and are not particular about operating systems or are not tied down ridiculously to an ecosystem then do give this phone a try. Ill be keeping this as long as a front facing camera doesn't become an absolute necessity.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Gnarfsan:
I'm back to using my SGS 2. I can't work with the screen size and I find myself considering battery life whatever I do on the Lumia. My SGS 2 on the other hand is like the bloody Duracell bunny in comparison.
[Nokia Lumia 800] malefix:
really the battery is so worst?? :(:(
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
The time has come, I have called up vodafone today and asked them to exchange my Lumia for a new one. New ones comes tomorrow.

The reason for this is because the device today died while at college. Now you will never guess how long my device lasted, after being on an 8-9 hour night charge.

It lasted a total of 5 HOURS!

5 bloody hours......this is not right. Nokia better get there finger out and get these updates rolling.

So now im am back to my trusty iPhone 4s.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boburto:
I'd be curious as to why it only lasted 5 hours.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Pdauser92:
My phone prompted for an update to 11500 as soon as it connected to Zune. I then used the files from the thread below to force the 8107 update, which went smoothly with no issues. The phone I have is locked to Orange UK.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
[Nokia Lumia 800] fletcher1989:
Well i should have my replacement tomorrow. So will try that and see what happens. but Nokia better get these issues fixed asap.
[Nokia Lumia 800] johnsies:
I haven't been able to put it down because I've been too busy admiring it's beauty. Battery life hasn't been great just enough to last from 7AM to 8PM but hopefully in the next few days, it'll show it's worth.
[Nokia Lumia 800] prjkthack:
Beautiful phone. Impeccable build quality with a beautiful screen. I wish I had this screen on my Titan. Still, a really great phone with the solid Windows Phone 7.5 platform.
[Nokia Lumia 800] sendark:
Hey i like the phone. My only concern is that i'm a headphone freak and switching over from Apple, all my headphones (AIAIAI TMA-1) with volume control and mic dont work, and nokia suggests that i buy a pair of their horrible 'pure' headphones.

Do you think this will be fixed in the future? I clearly see no reason why the software can't handle apple-style remotes, especially when the long-middle-button-press does bring the speech recognition window up.

That's the only concern, if they get that fixed (which they really have to) then the lumia becomes a serious contender.
[Nokia Lumia 800] surferjox:
I had the same problem with the screen not proper attached on my lumia 800, making clicking sound when pressing the middle of the screen. Got a new lumia same day, no problems with that one :) Just love the phone. My previous phone where a Htc Hd2 running wp7 mangoo.. But what an improvment with a "real" wp7 device. My smile is still there 3 weeks using the phone :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] newabv:
I am coming from BlackBerry, iPhone and Android.

Nokia Lumia with WP is fantastic!

Probably there are some issues but compared with others... oh LUMIA is my choice.

I am just unhappy about people who buying what is "number 1" - here in Bulgaria everybody want iPhone or SGS2 :rolleyes:

I remember the times when I start to use BB, people in Bulgaria wanted only Symbian and wandered what stupid phone is mine :)

Now is like as it was before :D

WP needs some support to prove its advantages.
[Nokia Lumia 800] jambo89liam:
Just got my new phone loving it. Tho there's one problem: when its on low brightness and you look at the screen at certain angles the colours get discoloured, has anybody noticed this?
[Nokia Lumia 800] arkedk:
Probably the PenTile display.
[Nokia Lumia 800] danisoufi:
Sleek, great device with a unique design. Extra ordinary OS, everything is there where you expect it and need it. Simply adorable.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Greycloud:
@Lumia 800 Owners : Out of 16GB how much storage space is available for users for storing music/apps?
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
It's actually about 14.9GB and there's about 13GB or so that you can use.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
In addition to that, you can adjust how much of the space is reserved for apps and that with Zune.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rare Earth:
I bought a Lumia 800 yesterday and I love it. My only gripe is the blockyness of the PenTile display. But I'll learn to live with that.
[Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fuzzynco:
I have

unrevoked-forever-son.zip

for restoring s-on

and

PB31IMG_3.26.605.1_RUU.zip

for the default rom.

Do I wipe everything in cwr 5

then flash the ruu.zip in cwr

then flash s-on.zip? :confused:

I'm asking what the order of application

should be?

Thanks