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[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] E4est:
Are you serious?

There's still a difference between Gingerbread and ICS...and there is still a difference between X10 and X10 mini(pro).

X10 has a 1GHz CPU and about 300MB RAM.

X10 mini and mini pro have 600MHz and 128MB RAM.

Even if they could run ICS on our small phones, it will possibly lag like hell or be very blurred.

I remember Owain trying to run Honeycomb on our phone and failing because of the screen resolution. You know, that our phone's screen only has 320x240 pixels?

A year ago nobody thought about Gingerbread on our phones, because there even wasn't a way to flash Froyo. There generally haven't been ROMs that weren't based on the stock one.

Nobody but Sony Ericsson had a doubt that Gingerbread could work on our phones.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] ryant22:
Because honeycomb was specificly made for tablets. ICS on the other hand supports multiple resolutions (phone&tablet). So i doubt that will be a big issue.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] coversnail:
He's probably jusy busy doing other things at the moment. There is always the slightly stalker-ish method of looking at his profile page: http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=3261285

Last logged in 17th of November - 2 days ago, not exactly disappeared!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] kaassaus:
Its working on the htc hero and the hero has the same hardware;)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] BPaul:
ok. this well :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] shahkam:
It means nothing htc is htc this is not mate
[Nokia Lumia 800] 17-apg:
Lets start a thread purely about your first thoughts on the Nokia 800 and woudl you recommend us to upgrade to one of these phones..
[Nokia Lumia 800] lumpaywk:
My first impression was wow that screen looks amazing with windows pone. The black really is true black and the ever so slight curve at the edges means it so nice to swipe. My only gripe is the 16gb though i use my zune for music so not that bad and that the screen could of streched a tad more to the edges of the phone. Saying that though i dont mind 3.7 i think its actually a nice size. The other think i notice is that yes it may be a "plastic" phone it feels so solid in the hand. My desire or hd7 have not felt so well put together.

Oh i forgot another design flaw is that all the buttons are down one side making it really hard to find a car dock that does not press the power.
[Nokia Lumia 800] andy_con:
loving my lumia 800, very pleased with it. just upgrded from an n900 which was amazing. its very different to the n900 and there are a few improvements needed but still loving the lumia.

agreed with the lacking in memory or card slot.

not being able to use the phone as a mass storage device is a huge massive fail and going to cause me problems at work.
[Nokia Lumia 800] k4kya:
Very Impressed

I've had this for 3 days now, and it's just a dream to use.

I previously had an HTC Desire (rooted and running the latest CM Mod on 2.3.7), which I found was pretty decent, but the lack of internal storage was driving me crazy, (system, internal storage only, apps were updating and getting bigger forcing me to uninstall apps that I actually wanted!).

Even though the screens of these 2 phones seem the same on paper (3.7" AMOLED, 800x480 resolution), the Nokia's just looks leaps and bounds better, there's no pinkish tinge on low brightness settings and the colours just pop. Also, whatever Nokia have done to make it work better in outdoor lighting has worked too. On my Desire, I could not see anything on the screen outside on a bright day, even with screen brightness at full. The Nokia is still clear outside, even at medium brightness.)

The only gripes I have are OS related, and are not that significant. I was surprised to see that I was unable to change the browser home page for example, but the most annoying thing is not being able to scrub through audio tracks. Having to hold down the next track button, especially on long tracks is pretty poor. It seems to work on some locally stored videos, but not on the YouTube site for example, also, I'm surprised that there is no dedicated YouTube app, (glorified bookmark != app)!

I'm very happy with it in general, and the guys at the office are suitably impressed too. :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] jhughesy:
pin the start page to the home screen and launch using that instead of the browser icon.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
Is this your first foray into WP7? This limitation is by no means a fail on the part of Nokia. WP7 does not allow for hot swapping of memory cards and also does not allow for USB Mass Storage function due to the way that it treats external memory as internal memory.
[Nokia Lumia 800] lumpaywk:
I still dont get what is wrong with a memory stick on your keys. Its easier and more practical and as an IT tech i would deffo say i would rather give the emplies them then use mobile phones. I agree it would be better to have more files supported by zune but to get into the file system is no benefit then to break it.
[Nokia Lumia 800] prowede:
I am new user in WP7

I think Lumia 800 is great. I love its shape and the screen.

But seems the battery life is not really long (even compare to my existing Android Nexus one)
[Nokia Lumia 800] 17-apg:
I love it too and will be my next phone as soon as I can buy one unlocked and unbranded. So far no one seems to be selling them this way.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Dousan:
Try this one mate, it's going for £470 sim-free.

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/NOKIA-LUMIA-800/HANDSET&clearance=false

Seems to be in stock (black).

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/choose-tariff/NOKIA_LUMIA_800/HANDSET/NEW

Regards Dousan...
[Nokia Lumia 800] RyanMacG:
I'm loving it, the battery seems to be a bit hit and miss but hopefully the update that's due out will sort that out :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] robart76:
Try Phones 4U! Sim-free £399
[Nokia Lumia 800] ale07:
Its brilliant, much faster and better looking than my old phone, a Sony Ericsson X1. The battery seems to only just last a day, hopefully the update will fix that.
[Nokia Lumia 800] FDMFigueiredo:
I think that is possible to do that, but I'm not sure if Dev Unlock is needed or not...
[Nokia Lumia 800] Dousan:
I have some questions i hope you guys can answer me.

Do the Lumia have a blue tint when you tilt the phone on the screen like the N9 have. That was really not nice looking on The N9 and annoyed my eye (very visual and need things to be clear and sharp and continious colour wise)?

Also do the txt and white/light backgrounds/icons have that magenta edge on the left side like the N9?

If yes is it as bad as on the N9?

Regards Dousan...
[Nokia Lumia 800] jhughesy:
A day is good considering Android phones tend to be half a day and iPhone 4s is also around 14 hours for many users.
[Nokia Lumia 800] RyanMacG:
In my experience no and no. The screen looks pretty much perfect from all angles and I've noticed no issues with magenta tinting. I thought I did at first but it was confirmed as being nothing by a few other people :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] rlatarche:
Agreed, the phone screen is bang on, had a Omnia 7 before my lumia 800 and the screen is just as good, also the screen doesn't appear to attract anywhere near the amount of fingerprints as the Omnia 7 :-) outdoor work is easy too, screen works very well.
[Nokia Lumia 800] DarkVasyaK:
Guys, more impressions please! Very interested in this device :)

And please, check the phone vibration level. Is it ok to use it on vibro mode in pocket?
[Nokia Lumia 800] stueyboy:
Love this phone. Moving on from android and the windows 7 UI just looks so much fresher. I love the WP7 people hub integration with social networks.

But on to the phone. The Nokia design is really nice and even with the phone case that was provided free with it, it has very good styling. The screen is so black that you can't tell where it ends and the case begins because the glass stretches all the way across the front.

Camera seems to be good. However, I did take some pics yesterday and found that if you tap the screen to focus and take a shot it sets the shot to macro which was annoying. That's probably a WP7 "feature"

I don't really like the power button on the side to be honest but can see why it has been put there. When it's in my car dock, I can't activate the phone because of the way it is held in the cradle. Will have to rethink that.

Call quality is what you would expect from Nokia. I don't know if the signal quality is any better than anything else. I have tried the speaker phone and it is good as well. Nice and clear.

Not sure I can comment on any more Nokia specific features as I've only had the phone for 5 days. Do give the battery a chance to condition as it is getting better each day for me. Remember to do a full charge.

Stu
[Nokia Lumia 800] norgan:
http://midnightjuggernaut.com/2012/03/the-nokia-lumia-800-my-impressions-after-a-couple-of-days-use/
[Nokia Lumia 800] buenso80:
bit byggy but otherwise promising phone

Comming from Android I feel very limited with ex. the lack of a file manager and so on. And a big question is : Why does the phone jump out of marketplace when downloading a new app? Really irretating I think. And more confusing: When going back into marketplace and scrooling around the apps I´m not able to see which ones I already have installed. You really have to click your way into every app to see which ones you have (I know one is able to just look in the menu, but anyway..)

Otherwise a great phone with a KILLER display and an OS so much better than wm6.5

I´ll put my faith in Microsoft correcting these bugs in a near future, so I don´t have to go back to Android which has become more and more messy lately in my point of view.
[Nokia Lumia 800] jhughesy:
Yep. Another way to get your history is to sign into windowsphone.com and get your history there. You can also install apps wirelessly from it.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Feenik:
I love it and even love it more after unlock!

i can pretty change everything i want, themes, backgrounds, logos etc
[Nokia Lumia 800] frenk_91:
i love it, best phone ever
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
Does unlocking the phone by signing up for an account at AppHub make you able to set custom colors for tiles?
[Nokia Lumia 800] oskariunit:
Just use back button to get back in the market after it starts downloading the app...
[Nokia Lumia 800] prowede:
How about the vibration? strong enough?

I think it is a bit soft and also due to the vibrate restriction of WP7, sometimes i reli cannot feel the vibration of incoming call
[Nokia Lumia 800] Lumina:
Why the hell didn't I think of that!!! :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] trickyhenry:
I think u just need to 1/2 press on the camera button to focus. I guess this is the benefit of having a dedicated camera button.

Other os's need u to press the screen.
[Nokia Lumia 800] stueyboy:
Indeed you do that and it uses the focus settings you specify. If you tap the screen it will focus wherever you tap on the image and use macro. It's just an RTFM moment (which I never take part in, being a man)
[Nokia Lumia 800] TheContact:
Only just as good? I was hoping for some improvements as upgrading from the omnia means a downgrade in screen size.

How noticeable is the pentile matrix on the smaller screen? I know with the omnia most of the colour themes resulted in the tiles(and text for that matter) having a jagged egde and checkerboard pattern throughout. Only Teal, blue and green avoided this...

If this were 4" and non-pentile, I'd be all over it, but now it's a tough decision between lumia 800 and focus s. Pretty screen or pretty body...
[Nokia Lumia 800] DarkVasyaK:
If I were you, I would take Focus S... But, unfortunately, no Focus S in Europe and delivery takes a long time
[Nokia Lumia 800] fid91:
Can someone tell me what is the audio quality in Lumia 800?or compare to SGS?
[Nokia Lumia 800] lumpaywk:
If you are unsurei would wait, there is a lot to suggest a larger screen nokia is right on our doorstep. Thats my 2cents. Personally i pref the 3.7 inch as it keeps the phone smaller though maybe .8 to bring the screen more to the edges would of been nice.

I did not noce any jaggered edges untill i read this and just looked really really hard but i would say the image on the screen is the most crisp i seen. Not a single person ha snot noted it when i showed them just how good it looked.
[Nokia Lumia 800] TheContact:
haha yeah, we get neither so far in Australia, so it's gonna be delivered from halfway across the world in either case.

I may just do that and wait, at least until the cyan one comes out or *fingers crossed* a white one, they may sway me towards the 800 :P I'm a sucker for pretty things.

That's good to hear about the screen. Though I suppose, I should play with one myself or an N9 at least.

Thanks for the input :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] RyanMacG:
Until you mentioned it I didn't even realise it was a pentile screen (not that it matters). I have it sat next to my work iPhone 4 and I think the screen is just as good tbh. I certainly haven't noticed any jagged edges on any colour setting.

Also I can't see the pentile matrix like I could on my Nexus One...
[Nokia Lumia 800] lumpaywk:
yeah i would have a look at the screen and that first now, after you said about it andthus i decided to look really hard at the screen i now see it loads lol. Its not a biggy for me but if you notice it might be worth a look. As i said not had anyone not look at the screen and go wow that looks amazing but i think once you get used to the amzing contrasts and vivid colours you start to notice the little things.
[Nokia Lumia 800] kenny17430:
Any feedback on the quality of MP3 playback ?

I will receive mine in few days. I don't know if there are some UK guys in this forum but you can easily negociate the price of the phone in phone4u, paid 30 pounds for the handset instead of 150£.
[Nokia Lumia 800] lumpaywk:
MP3 playback is really good through my bose ae2's though there isnt as much low end as i would like. I cant seem to find an equalizer to sort the levels either unlike the HD7. It has more power than my Zune HD but thats not saying much as im having to get a fiio to boost that to power my headphones that arnt even top end. To conclud mp3 playback is clear crisp and has enough umph to get good sound out of reasonable headphones but lacks any real ability to set it up how you like.

regards p4u it does seems that phone shops in the UK have adopted the eastern system of your expected to haggle. If you look at the mark up they put on each phone it amazes me that anyone would just pay the asking price.
[Nokia Lumia 800] htc12345:
finally a nokia phone again, can be called phone instead of computer, zune is garbage as it only synchs selected file types. no file manager which sucks, not visible as usb drive, which sucks, like the new approach and UI of WP7, build quality, display and call quality VERY good. and furthermore, cannot be unlocked yet so looking for a solution. :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] Super Chimp:
What is the camera quality like on it, heard reports it isn't so great?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Jragar:
camera is great, original tests were biased against Nokia. Plus Nokia are continually working on updating the phone, so good times.
[Nokia Lumia 800] kougei:
Had mine about a week, the phone itself looks and feels wonderful, coming from a HD7 which was also a great phone. There's no doubt in my mind that this size and form factor is optimal for those people who primarily need a phone, with smartphone functionality secondary. The screen is fantastic, and it feels pefect in the hand, even the power/off button is perfect in a normal grip, this size lets you use the phone with one hand all the time.

However, I do think I have a bad device.

I am suffering from dramatically varying battery life from light use. On average I get half the battery life of the HD7, which is not right at all. Secondly I've just had my second instance of pulling the phone out of my pocket, to use, but is completely dead, but also wildly hot.

I've seem reports of some users having battery issues, and the welcome acknowledgement of a potential issue from Nokia, but I've not seen any reports of the overheating/shutdown issue I seem to have. With so many other people seemingly having a good experience, I'm sure I just have a bad battery/phone, which can happen, so I'll look to get it replaced next week.
[Nokia Lumia 800] lumpaywk:
It is getting more and more clear that there is a bad batch of phones. Nokia claims its a small percentage though forums would suggest different, mind you this could be caused buy the fact only ppl with issues would google lumia battery issue. Saying that mine has been a bit weak esp compared to my HD7 but its on the edge like its just not feeling like it is going the full hog that it should.
[Nokia Lumia 800] voluptuary:
I have an HD2 that I dual boot mango and Android, a Focus (1st gen) with a 32GB SD card in it and now a Lumia 800 and I have to say the hardware is DAMN sexy... but the lack of either more storage or FFC means this isn't the best WP out there so thats why I voted that its good but not the best.

It's screen is as good as my Focus and the design is better overall but since it doesn't have the storage my Focus does I'd say they tie. I am going to use it as my primary phone though since here in the US att's system thinks it's a dumbphone (IMEI doesn't register as a smartphone) so I get unlimited data for $10 :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] mcargy08:
Nice to hear that the screen is good and the design is SEXY.

By the way, where din you buy yours?
[Nokia Lumia 800] seb_lau:
I'll post here what I posted on my facebook:

The phone itself is great (except for lacking microsd slot) however seems to be let down by the OS:

* Can't use as a USB Key without installing Zune!?

* No WiFi Hotspot mode

* No bandwidth monitoring, so no way to see if I'm about to go over my allowance

* IE9 is seriously pants

* No (local) Outlook integration (I do not want to have to tie a 'Live' account so had to install an Exchange 2010 server)

* No flash support -- I know we want to move to HTML5 but until the majority of the web supports it, I still need it

On the plus side it is incredibly slick and smooth, I'm looking forward to seeing what XNA games/apps will be made. In the meantime a few demos can be seen at alphalabs.cc
[Nokia Lumia 800] prowede:
One more point is the vibration of incoming call.
[Nokia Lumia 800] seb_lau:
Some more bad points:

* no SMS support for WP7 over Exchange 2010

* no seperate Media/Ring volume control (e.g. have ring volume @ 25 and media volume @ 15)

* no background/playlist support for music videos (you have to pic one music video at a time and can't switch the screen off)

* no flac/mkv support

That said though, this phone was free.. :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] FooisM:
Review the damn phone not the OS :P

Most of us already know the good/bad parts of win7/7.5, get on with the hardware of the phone :D
[Nokia Lumia 800] voluptuary:
Nokia was kind enough to give it to me :p

one thing I can't get used to yet is the feeling that I am going to break the charging door.
[Nokia Lumia 800] vangrieg:
What about it, there's no vibration or it's too weak?
[Nokia Lumia 800] scottygb2k:
Loving the look of this phone. Im waiting on the the Cyan version to be released in UK before buying.

I currently have an iPhone4 and to be honest im bored of it. Can anyone tell me how the Lumia 800's Camera stacks up against the iPhone4 (normal iPhone4 not the "S" model). Also how does the loud speaker compare as if im driving the loudspeaker is pretty much useless on the iPhone4.

Nokia is well known for there Camera performance but ive been reading mixed reviews of the Lumia 800 camera.
[Nokia Lumia 800] DaveShaw:
Has anyone noticed that on the "start menu" (I don't know what to call it when you swipe right from the home screen) that there isn't a series of letters to quickly navigate your app list? This is on other devices in the Mango update. I know I was excited when it turned up on my HD7.

Either I'm been dense and can't find the option, or it's disabled on Nokia's...

Thanks

Dave
[Nokia Lumia 800] Jragar:
The jump list is only invoked once you have installed over a certain amount of apps :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
Verified. I got the jump list after I installed enough apps. Love it!
[Nokia Lumia 800] DaveShaw:
Aha, thanks. Any idea what the trigger is?

Dave
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
Keep installing apps, and you'll find out! :P
[Nokia Lumia 800] ibmr52:
I guess, it should be at least 45 applications ...
[Nokia Lumia 800] jtphl:
does Lumia 800 has call barring , band selection and sim tool kit in software by default ? I don't see these 3 on my samsung focus. Sad to say , the phone seems not smart enough for band selection, its either I choose the phone to remain in either 1 kind of frequency, if I choose Auto, it just not work seamlessly.
[Nokia Lumia 800] 17-apg:
Guys,

Lets try to keep this thread about your first thoughts on the phone. There are other places to discuss technical details.

I got mine in cyan last week and it (for me) is easily the best phone I have ever owned. The size is just about right and it is very zippy with the 1.4 GHz chip. As many people have said before WP7 does not need a dual core processor and I agree. Polycarbonate body feels good in the hand and non slip even without the supplied cover. I have only one issue andf that is sound quality, it is terrible. Having had the Omnia 7 before I have been spoiled with a great sounding ophone, even playing music through its rear speaker was good. Lumia is just to tinny and I hope that it will be improved with a future firmware update. Oh and until we get the firmware update from 11414 those of us with SIM free phones cannot download the network connection app from Marketplace and therefore cannot use MMS.
[Nokia Lumia 800] falconeight:
It's perfect simpley perfect the best phone since the original iPhone or nexus one.
[Nokia Lumia 800] wheresmybeaver:
Got this phone for my SO for xmas. She was using an old Samsung touchscreen feature phone. She has been really happy with it, downloading apps and games, customising tiles, listening to internet radio, sending lots of texts etc. She's also using facebook and email way more often than she used to so I can finally send stuff to her by email and expect her to see it almost straight away.

My own impression as current a HD7 owner is that the Lumia 800 is surprisingly heavy for its size, although this wouldn't stop me from using it. The display is the best feature as blacks are truly black and the colours are amazingly saturated. Comparing my HD7 with the Lumia side by side really highlights the washed-out HD7 display. Apps seem to load a little quicker than my HD7, which is probably down to the improved processor. The battery life is certainly better than my HD7, and easily lasts a whole day even with heavy use (which is all you need for a smartphone really). The camera is also much better than I was expecting (based on reports I read on the internet).

The only negative remarks I would have so far about the phone is the flimsy cover for the USB port; this is highly likely to get broken at some point.

I could easily recommend this phone to any of my friends. The older generation may find the screen a little too small, which is where my HD7 wins big time.

When the Lumia 710 finally comes out it will be the ideal "starter" smartphone.