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[Nokia Lumia 800] pspbricker:
Have to say I love the phone.

What I love; Nokia Music - free downloadable music. Offline.

Nokia Drive - downloadable maps. Brilliant.

The integration - a friend wanted to give me his email, and I told him that my Lumia had fetched it from his FB page. Then I showed him his own profile, and his photos and our call history. He didn't have anything like this on his Iphone, and was pretty impressed.

The screen - beautiful.

The design - without doubt the most gorgeous device I have ever had.

I dislike (or rather I hope these issues get addressed)

Biggest gripe? Notifications don't appear when the screen is off! No emails come through until I hit the power switch.

Nokia Drive needs an internet connection to begin navigating. My old N82 coped fine without a connection, sort it out Nokia.

Bing Local search only works in some countries; I'm in Holland, and there is no coverage here.

Notifications could be improved.

SKYPE! Why on EARTH is Microsoft's own mobile OS the ONLY OS not to have a Skype app - even though Microsoft own Skype! MS promised Skype would come before the end of fall - it didn't. Huge fail.

Quality of some apps are appaling; Whats App, Skydrive, YouTube, AP and others are of a much higher standard on other OS's, and need to be improved asap.

I might be tempted to go for the Nokia Ace if it appears in March, but I wouldn't go back to Android or iOS after using WP7.
[Nokia Lumia 800] alpha beta gaga:
do you mean the loudspeaker sound? or the sound through the earpiece when using as a phone?
[Nokia Lumia 800] 17-apg:
The loudspeaker. It is pure crap compared to the Samsing Omnia 7 that I used to own. It's loudspeaker sound output was simply fantastic in comparison with a lot meore body to it. In fact I would often have listen to music on it when travelling abroad.The earpiece speaker works ok. I hope Nokia will improve this when they release the very soon battery update.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Itaintrite:
Thank God I use my phone as a phone and not a boombox ;P

Sexy phone. Love the WP despite lack of apps. And Apple can learn a thing or two with the polycarbonate body.
[Nokia Lumia 800] noob_wannabe:
Lots of hickups and annoying stuff!

The fact that the phone copied all my contacts to the cloud without asking me first, and that I cannot put in a task or calendar appointment without connecting to an online service - nor can I synchronise directly between my PC and Outlook - is just crap really!!!

wtf is MS thinking about??? Why force ppl to share their personal private info??? I just dont get it.

Anyone who can open this phone and tell me what keys in the registration database I have to set to '0' to get rid of all the cloud-crap will be in my preyers for years to come.

- Besides that - which is pretty obviously a killer for me completely - the edge of the phone is so sharp that it cuts the ear when I talk to ppl.

- When I put on the headset thats in the box, ppl cant talk to me because of echo-effect.

- the loudspeaker in the phone is completely useless, and the ringing tone is not high enough to hear in the pocket on the streat, even though its turned up to max.

... and loads of other small stuff related to WP7.5 which should be taken care of asap.

Other than that ... best phone I ever had!
[Nokia Lumia 800] tjramage:
Are you for real? I think your Lumia needs to be taken back if it's so sharp it cuts you... o.O
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
Agreed!

Doesn't cut my ear at all.

The whole point of WP7 is integration. Your contacts and calendars are not "published" online. They're backed up and stored online. All I had to do when I got my Lumia 800 was log into Google & Facebook and my contacts and calendars were immediately loaded. No one can randomly log in and see that information.

If you don't like what WP7 does, then it's definitely not for you.
[Nokia Lumia 800] 1orka:
Hi all!

Bought this phone for my wife. Like it so much, that want to get one for myself.

The only problem for me is limited bluetooth functionality (no file transfer), do you think it will be resolved in near future by Nokia, Microsoft, or may be some developers app?
[Nokia Lumia 800] whitealien:
@noob_wannabe - you made me laugh a lot :D

1. you are buying a smartphone which is focused around social network integration and cloud sync and then you complain about privacy

2. and you can cut ears with it hahaha
[Nokia Lumia 800] noob_wannabe:
1. No! In fact I bought a Nokia phone with fantastic hardware and a Windows Operating system on it. I NEVER asked for the cloud synching.

I came from a HD2 with WP 6.5, which does all I want the WP7.5 to do, but cant do because Microsoft forces me to use the cloud.

Why am I FORCED to use the cloud. Why can I not synch directly to my PC?

Simple USB cable or bluetooth synching between my PC and my phone is not possible without an online account of some sort, or my own business server with outlook on it.

That is just plain stupid!!!

2. Yes! THe edge of the phone is so sharp that it leaves a red line across my ear after only 3-4 minutes talking. Several online sites that have tested the phone have complained about the same.

I dont know what is so strange about it. I am for real! Im right here, and my ear hurts every time I talk on my Lumia800 phone!

Thats about it.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
Just exactly at what angle are you holding the phone to your head? And how hard are you pressing it to your ear? Keep in mind that the iPhone 4 and 4s both have sharp edges and no beveling like the Lumia 800.

You have the HD2? Why didn't you root it and install WP7.5 on it to see how you liked it. It's very easy to do and very easy to go back to Windows Mobile if you don't like it. Instead you picked a device for the hardware and ended up hating the OS. And, its edge is only slightly rounded. It's capable of making a slightly less red mark on your ear.

Here is my experience. I first saw WP7 almost a year ago. I thought it was pretty. I then heard about the Nokia MSFT partnership and the cravings began. Before I was about to drop the $ necessary for an unlocked Nokia (since I cannot get a smartphone from my carrier w/o losing my awesome data plan), I looked into my options. Somehow, I came across info that the HD2 could be rooted and WP7 installed. So, I hunted one down and did the work. I had a full understanding of the OS I was getting into and it only cost me $100.

You could have done the same.

I really think you should sell your device and get an N9 if you like the hardware so much. It really is going to suit you better.

I'm still not sure what your disdain for the cloud is. Sure, it's nice that we can sync directly to our computers. This is the future though, and computers are limited in the fact that sometimes they are not where you are. I have loved the fact that I've been able to simply log into FB, google & Windows Live and have all of my emails and contact information downloaded in a minute. Using it to access office files and docs... it would be nice to sync directly... really nice. But the cloud isn't so bad, for the reason I already stated. MSFT does need to come up with a way to sync folders on PC to SkyDrive for our convenience. A good backup/restore feature would be good, too.

Again, sell your Lumia 800 and get another device. You'll be better off.
[Nokia Lumia 800] jbbandos:
Also got one for free. The hardware feels good, but I agree with all your points. To that, add the lack of decent bluetooth (just an incredibly restricted version), the lack of flexibility of WP7 (no folders and no extra screens, making impossible to arrange apps in any way other than the default "toilet paper roll", no way to install apps other than the market, no access to the file system) as some more problems with the software. The search button is useless, only launches bing and is not context sensitive. The volume is completely idiotic, why is the ring volume tied to the media volume? Why aren't there independent volume profiles for speaker and headphones?

With the hardware, the main problems are the idiotic cover on the USB port, the usage of microSIM, and the mentioned lack of uSD support. Also missing is HDMI out (something that older Nokias had and all non-WP7 phones in the same price range have), and the FM transmitter, which would have compensated for the crappy bluetooth. The screen is a fingertip magnet, my N1 stays cleaner much longer; on the other hand, the curved gorilla glass is nicer.

As for the mentioned slickness of the firmware, seems on par with my N1 running MIUI. Which is a bit damning, as the N1 has a older <1GHz CPU, and an slightly inferior GPU.

Finally, another frustration with Nokia - I had forgotten about the damn product codes, and how the firmware was released slowly, sometimes forgetting some product codes. Seems like only the worst Nokia practices were kept from symbian times... :(
[Nokia Lumia 800] HOFFERN342:
Got mine for 380 Euro (think it is 420 now..) on Amazon.de

My first impression was: Loved it! Fantastic amoled screen, which works as good in sunny daylight as it does at night. It is seriously responsive and fast, and coming from a Desire HD, I can really feel the difference. It is actually much more responsive than my old iPhone 3GS too (which in my opinion is more responsive and quicker than the Desire HD on swiping through menus etc.)

It can be a bit slow on opening heavy applications, but it is barely noticeable..

It is probably the most user friendly phone I have ever owned, everything is fast and simple. Microsoft has really done something right with this UI.. and I cannot wait until future updates, since I know Microsoft usually likes to listen to their consumers, so I believe we will see a lot more functionality too... not that I notice that something is missing with my kind of use (browsing, some apps like weather and Spotify, sms, calls, Facebook, maps, mail, stocks and so on are all fantastic and working perfectly!)

I can safely recommend this phone to everyone, from teenager all the way to your grandma!
[Nokia Lumia 800] adamw156:
my battery seems pretty good
[Nokia Lumia 800] djfuego:
Not for me.

Mrs wanted it but I wouldn't touch it except to update and explain how to get music/movies on it with that reg mod.

Very simple user expirence Keep it simple is a good start.

This was prior to updating the firmware yesterday. I'll post again if anything changes.

Camera is a let down sometimes in low light you have to tweak the settings to get rid of the redness in the photos.

Battery seemed to go way too fast.

No Hdmi out

No Dual mic

No micro sd

Don't care about screen res but at least it has gorilla glass over an AMOLED

The size of it it too big IMO

It's touch response on the other hand is way better than any phone I've used. Very responsive.

Game wise It seemed to cope just fine.

Having used Windows mobile for over a decade and switching to Symbian for over a year now I have gone to a phone based on my hardware needs over an OS because there was no windows mobile that could do what the N8 could do in a small handset size.

I'll stick with my N8 until my contract is up or until the next significant leap in phone technology comes up.
[Nokia Lumia 800] whitealien:
HAHAHAHAA

I can do the same. Charge it, then turn off for 4 days, then turn on and make screen capture. LOL

Please, who are you trolling?
[Nokia Lumia 800] jbbandos:
Well, gave up and gave it to the wife, and found another two idiotic wp7 restrictions:

Changing the hotmail account is only possible if you do a full reset, meaning you have to re-download all apps (even if you only had free ones), all maps, voices, etc.

Using an mp3 as a ringtone needs such a stupid procedure (cut to 30s/1MB, change genre, etc.) as I had not seen even in a feature phone in many years!

I hope the wife doesn't get too frustrated with all wp7 crap, but as she uses it almost exclusively for calls and SMS, maybe she'll cope.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
Come on. Be realistic here. It's not the hotmail account that cannot be changed. It's the Windows Live ID. It is essentially the activation for the phone. It's what gains you access to the marketplace. All of your apps, even the free ones, are tied to that account. To change it is essentially the same as removing the existing apps and other relevant information = hard reset. I don't understand why you'd be up in arms over such a thing.

I cannot disagree with you on your 2nd point. Though, let's not forget that how difficult this was to do on iOS. Wait, at first, you had to PAY for every ringtone before geeks figured out how to make them work. Use mp3direct cut to make the tones. It's free and not too hard to use.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Gnarfsan:
It feels very good and it's a real beauty of a phone. You just want to pick it up. The OS is incredibly smooth and works well. The pentile display is not as bad as it could be. I hardly notice it.

On the downside, the battery life is close to horrible (60 % after 8 hours of very light use) and music sounds lifeless.

Edit:

It turned out that my phone wasn't working properly. I got a new one and the batterylife is pretty good. Equal to an iPhone I would say. Im loving this phone so far :-)
[Nokia Lumia 800] jbbandos:
Because it makes no sense at all to even have to "activate" the phone. One might even accept the rented apps not working when one changes the account they are tied to, but cleaning everything? Maps, data, everything? That makes absolutely no sense. And even if maps data is provided by Nokia, and they can force you to wipe (even if it doesn't make any sense), my data belongs to me, not Microsoft. And don't tell me it is in the cloud. If I can't control where it is stored, then my data no longer is mine, it has been appropriated.

I do't know about iOS, but android doesn't have these stupid restrictions to changing accounts.

mp3direct works if the original mp3 is of low enough quality so that 30 seconds take less than 1MB space. Even then, it doesn't stop being completely idiotic to force me to edit a mp3 instead of using it directly. Once again, android doesn't have these lame restrictions.
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
I guess I just don't share the same complaints as you, because I came into WP7 with a full understanding of its shortcomings. I bought a used HTC HD2 for $85 and installed WP7. I played with it for 3 months before committing to buying a real WP7 device.
[Nokia Lumia 800] 1orka:
Well, this is just crazy.

Phone dropped from 100 % to 58 % overnight, no wi-fi, no talking, no syncking no no nothing, no use at all. All this with new f/w. I bought this phone as a gift, now i feel kinda awkward. Didn't expect this crap from Nokia.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Gnarfsan:
Edit: Sorry, please ignore this post.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Greycloud:
I've a question for all iPhone/iPad users currently using Lumia 800 i.e. Are you satisfied with the sound quality of Lumia 800 through headphones. Is it as good as an iPhone/iPad? I've read somewhere that the audio of Lumia 800 is very poor, is it true? Please reply...
[Nokia Lumia 800] 17-apg:
I have the Lumia 800 for a month now and it is a fantastic phone in every respect EXCEPT that the music output is a disaster to put it mildly. I have come from a Samsung Omnia 7 which was great even the rear speaker sounded brilliant. I hope that Nokia will provide a software update to sort this but on reading the forums it seems unlikely.
[Nokia Lumia 800] maatn:
Got it for two weeks now.

Experiencing some crocking in the phone while calling like you get a call and your phone lies next to your pc speakers. Will check that with other phones I'm calling.

And I'm still waiting for the f/w update from T-Mobile Germany. :(

Nokia Drive is a huge disappointment. Would love to stay with GMaps... Cant even choose alternative routes, time until arrive and other stuff.
[Nokia Lumia 800] tissotti:
I fixed this by updating it to the newest firmware and then going back to the old one. After that you can update to the newest firmware again.

By some reason fixed the sound quality issues, many others have reported the same.

Now i'm truly enjoying the device. Looking the sell this unlocked Lumia 800 later this year to get Lumia 900, or whatever the European WP7 flagship will be.

Remember to check if you have actually received the latest firmware, not just OS version provided by Microsoft. Especially if you have done the connection trick to update.

The battery life has improved a lot in 3 weeks i have used the device. It's by no means great still with ~32 hours, but something i'm fine with.
[Nokia Lumia 800] BreonMG:
A little background:

Hardcore Android enthusiast, I've had Nexus One (day1 of release), Nexus S(day1 of release) and I currently have the Galaxy Nexus(day1 of release). I've also had iPhones 3gs and 4 in my household as well(wifey's phones).

My interest was piqued after playing around with one in the TMobile store. Since I already owned an unlocked GNexus I decided to capitalize on the nice subsidized price of 30 Euro to extend my contract(was already going to extend it). Originally the plan was to use this as a very nice backup phone/extra phone since I wasn't happy with the battery life on my GNexus(still not happy with it). So picked up my cute little black Lumia 800 and went on my merry way. The first couple of days with it I used it exclusively to learn the ins and outs of Windows Phone and to get a good general feel on battery life/usability etc..

A week later and I still haven't left the house with my Nexus. I am absolutely and unquestionably SMITTEN by this small wonder. The form factor is about the same size as my Nexus S with a slighty smaller screen but it feels like it's made of granite comparably. App selection is definiely..."light" compared to Android BUT all the apps or TYPES of apps I need/use normally are w/in the Marketplace.

I've always been one to downplay the benefit of intergration of social networking with a phone, it works just fine on android but you have to kinda jump in and out of apps. My eyes have really been opened to how beneficial it really is. Mango does a masterful job of synchronizing everything into one clean hub.

I can go on and on...needless to say I'm VERY close to becoming a full convert as the 800 has already taken over as my daily driver. I'm SERIOUSLY considering seeking out a trade for a Titan for my Galaxy Nexus. I really miss the screen real estate. That and the speaker are really my only two negatives I have.
[Nokia Lumia 800] z33dev33l:
2 days, 4 hours of moderate usage for me on average.
[Nokia Lumia 800] dannejanne:
I already love my phone. Finally spotify controls on the lockscreen.

Screen very good. True black. I do notice the pentile pattern very easily though but it's not disturbing me nearly as much as I thought it would. More noticeable on some colors than others. Overall very good responsive screen.

The UI. God it looks modern and nice. I will never look back to Android now. I never got used to the lag that Android comes with. This Nokia feels pretty much free of lag in the animations. Very nice user experience. Android often made me pissed because of its stuttering. iOS has never been an option for me.

Battery seems OK. Not nearly as good as my Xperia Play. Not bad either. I'm only on my second charge. It's been 10 hours since I charged it and the battery has dropped 15%. I have sent a few messages and talked a few times in the phone under the day and at work I have very bad reception as well.
[Nokia Lumia 800] giddorah:
I must agree on everything you just said. Also in Sweden.

I am on my second charge since I got it tuesday, and I'm down to 42% with 22 hours estimated time left on the phone. And I have been playing with it ALOT.

Considering the first charges usually last only a few hours on any of my new phones, I am very impressed with the batterylife on it.

I played music through Nokia Music 4 hours straight yesterday at work and my phone used 7% battery... Impressive... Impressive indeed!

Edit:

Oh I forgot! And the camera-speed! Unimaginable! From locked to a saved picture takes only a few seconds! Compared to my old Android phone it is just... Wow! And! I compared it to an Iphone 4 and a SGS2... The Iphone user came with the usual "Usually it doesn't take this long for me..." but they were both very impressed!
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boburto:
On iPhone you just need to double click the home button (when locked) and you get a camera shortcut. Not as fast as WP7 but faster than android :)
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
So a long press of the camera button from the lock screen (or blacked screen) isn't fast enough?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boburto:
I think we are discussing different things. I just highlighted that it is quite fast to get to the camera on iOS 5. Possibly the iPhone user giddorah spoke to didn't know this.

I mentioned that WP7 was faster (option of holding the camera button) but that iPhone only took a small bit longer. I then mentioned that both were faster than android.
[Nokia Lumia 800] jbbandos:
Depends on which android. On MIUI, you can have a shortcut to the camera from the lockscreen. Also, on MIUI I never saw that long time between photo and showing on gallery. If anything, on my old N1 it is at least the same speed as on the Lumia. It might depend on your sd card speed on the android.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boburto:
So to get the standard functionality of WP7 or iOS you have to flash your phone with a custom, unsupported by manufacturer, ROM?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
Stock Ice Cream Sandwich has a camera shortcut on the lockscreen.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boburto:
So to get the standard functionality that WP7 has had for the last year, and iPhone has had for the last few months (even the 3GS got the update), you have to either buy a new android phone or hope your manufacturer releases an update to ICS (not likely...) or flash with a non standard rom?
[Nokia Lumia 800] Rusty!:
No.

That just stock, untouched Android. HTC (for instance) has had camera (and other) shortcuts on the lockscreen for a while. I'm sure they're not alone.
[Nokia Lumia 800] 17-apg:
Just to get this straight, you music sounded like mine, awfully tinny. So you upgraded to latest 11500 Nokia firmware and it was no better. Then you rolled back to 11451 and then updated to 11500 again and now its good with lots more bass. Need to understand this. I don't have the 11500 update yet so can't try this out.

Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express
[Nokia Lumia 800] BarrieSimpson:
Been 2 weeks now... this phone is SO much better than the stupid bloody iPhone, that's for sure.

I need a graphic equalizer

I need to be able to make folders in the photo app

All the rest is fine.

The BEST phone on the market as we speak.

Barrie
[Nokia Lumia 800] Boburto:
While you can't create a folder on the device, if you create a sub folder in your My Pictures Folder on computer then it will copy as a sub folder on the device.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Limusin:
This is an awesome phone...... It¡s really great
[Nokia Lumia 800] junglebungle:
Looking forward to getting mine Tuesday, I've already got a 4S so going to decide what to keep, I'm really attracted to this phone though and the os seems to intuitive and sleek, I do love my 4S though, but the battery is appalling.
[Nokia Lumia 800] Dousan:
Do share your findings. I have an iPhone 4S too and bought it as an in between phone. The lumia hadden't hit Denmark at the the time i needed to switch phones. I started out preordering the lumia from Germany but cancelled that cuase i wanted to try it first hand. It's out in Denmark now but haven't had the time to try it out yet.

I like the iPhone, but it's design just doesn't do it and i need to 'hide' it in a cover cuase of the glas backcover, it's just to fragile imo and what's the point with a slick design if you need to cover it up? Not well thought of Apple.

Anyway could be nice with your input as you also is an owner of the 4S :)

Regards Dousan...
[Nokia Lumia 800] anseio:
At least the "cover up" for the Lumia looks exactly like the Lumia.

I was at the bank today and was doing something on my phone when the teller told me how great the case looked. I told him that the phone was the same color and then removed the case so he could see. He was so impressed and excited.