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[Nexus S General] matt2053:
He just worded it wrong :)

All the source code that will ever be released has been released. But to build a ROM you need more than just the OS source code. You need drivers for your hardware too. But those drivers are typically not open source and so we have to wait for proprietary files to be releases by the hardware vendor. We have these files for our phone for gingerbread. But they do not necessarily work for ICS. But koush basically said that he was able to obtain some of the required files, enough to get booted. From there it is a matter of making other changes to get the rest of the hardware working.

When the OTA for our phones is ready, the files required to compile the hardware drivers within the ROM will be released, allowing anyone who wants to make a fully functioning ROM.

That is a very basic explanation and may not be 100 accurate but that's the gist of it anyway.
[Nexus S General] suhas_sm:
That is a nice explanation. Others, have patience :p
[Nexus S General] xavierdylan:
Thats awesome. thanks for the reply. so lets just hope that what we have from gingerbread is more than enought from the driver perspective. Kernel is the other thing to worry about.
[Nexus S General] 4I-I:
Thanks for the explaination! Lets hope sb figures it out soon! ;D

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S General] funkyblue04:
Google will release the drivers eventually as well. Wish they would hurry up and release them and Ics.
[Nexus S General] ali imani:
In CyanogenMod 9 Alpha 11 - by Koush WiFi working for me and my friends

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19747578&postcount=1209
[Nexus S General] adnanbaig18:
Who is this samfirmware? And how comforting is " close to start updates" after " within weeks"... lame!!!

And last time I heard nexus updates used to come from the Google's server and not Samsung's???
[Nexus S General] navjot94:
Apple also makes apps like Siri exclusive to the 4S. At least when we get ICS we'll get every feature...
[Nexus S General] DoomFragger:
Trying to sell software features exclusive to some hardware was what killed Nokia. I remember having perfectly capable Symbian phones yet one had software features that the other didn't. Although, in my educated opinion they were exactly the same inside. But, alas, Apple doesn't live from they software features, they live from the ecosystem they built. Nokia never could do that.

I agree that we, Nexus users, should have the latest and the greatest at the same time. Heck, even the N1 could have it too with some imagination.

I believe that the problem is Samsung and not Google. I believe that the profit from the Nexus line goes in the majority to the phone manufacturer. Google business is selling ads, not phones. The Nexus' are just used to further advertise one of their ad shops: Android.

That being said, my Oxygen 2.3.2 phone is working pretty darn well (thank you Adam). It will run Oxygen 3.x darn well too when Google/Samsung take their heads from the sand.
[Nexus S General] uristic:
Well samfirmware is a website wich leks official firmwares for samsung phones and a lot of news/rumors wich are mostly true (probobly an insider in the team)

anyway here is a conversation on tweeter posted about an hour ago:

"qoyumnasri:

@SamFirmware Any new news about official ICS update for Nexus S?

SamFirmware:

@qoyumnasri Only beta roms at moment on servers.

1 hour ago

qoyumnasri:

@SamFirmware Oh i see, when can i expect the update, late December?"

SamFirmware:

@qoyumnasri Thats up to Google. I think a Yes for late Dcember begin January."

So it seems we'll need to wait a bit longer -.-
[Nexus S General] Moystard:
Using Ice and Fire version of ICS right now and I am really pleased with it. It just runs fast and everything that I use work with a decent battery life.
[Nexus S General] funkyblue04:
Close could me tomorrow or next Christmas in Google's eyes...Just release the drivers and let the XDA Developers make proper builds....
[Nexus S General] thel2dab:
ICS USB OTG and Browser Incognito mode

Hi All,

I am new here and a long time looker but never posted before.

I have two questions about ICS for the Nexus s.

Firstly will the official ICS bring USB hosting, also will it bring TV out Funtions

And in the SDK ports the browser had Incognito Mode but the Aosp roms dont have it. For now i took the browser app from the SDK port and installed it which has given Incognito mode. Will it be available in the official update.

Many thanks for reading

Lee
[Nexus S General] thanr:
I'm on Brainmaster v6 (Koush), everything works fine. Some lags, but probably caused by the apps themselves.

Trying out franco's Kernel soon :)
[Nexus S General] Moystard:
I tried out brainmaster's before ice and fire and was not satisfied at all with its performances.
[Nexus S General] XCellPhoneSalesRep:
DG_ICS BETA1 (stable) now available!

and

DG_ICS for NS4G (not stable) available as well...
[Nexus S General] D G:
when's the official OTA update coming??? can't be bothered to read all the way through this thread :D thanks

edit: it's OK I've stiopped bening lazy and read around a bit. seems the answer is still 'soon'. Oh man I hate soon, I prefer 'now'
[Nexus S General] Matridom:
I'll have to agree with this. Over here, Bell is getting exclusive until January, after that the other big providers are going to be selling it. I suspect the firmware will be dropped right around the time all the exclusivity contracts expire.
[Nexus S General] Star Shadow:
I think it is the contracts with phone companies that is holding back the ota for the NS. I think if the phone companies could, they would force Apple to hold off on the updates for the earlier phones to try to entice new buyers. Remember when the NS came out, the GB ota took a few months? Same thing again.

Though to be fair, they were developing ICS for the new GN and they may still be working on the NS drivers.

What I don't like is the lack of communication. A dev could take 30 seconds to post on G+ the status.
[Nexus S General] oakamil:
My battery life with SEUV22 was not good, I'm back to plain CM9 Alpha 11. The minor performance improvements were not worth the reduction in battery life.
[Nexus S General] Star Shadow:
I guess the word "stable" should be used loosely? :D
[Nexus S General] DoomFragger:
To be honest, I believe that ICS was also developed with Nexus S'. Believe it or not, Google started ICS before gingerbread came out, so... No Galaxy Nexus by that time.

At some point of the development they shifted priorities to release Galaxy Nexus, still, if koush and others, with no inside knowledge and access to the proprietary drivers can release a ROM almost from scratch, Google has no excuse what so ever...
[Nexus S General] neo_x22000:
any news on OTA
[Nexus S General] corythug:
No

Follow the leader @corythug ;)
[Nexus S General] 4I-I:
Hows drew garens beta? Im on kwiboo v3 dont miss anything... but ill probaly gics gd's a try!

Is it stable though?

Thanks! ;)

Edit: galery fc's for me so i went back... but its quite good though!!
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
Any news on a wifi fix?
[Nexus S General] Luxferro:
I believe the same thing too. That they start development on the current google phone, then switch to the next one when they have the hardware all sorted out.

There was already proof they have an ICS rom for nexus s. The nexus s that was sold on ebay with google dev rom of ICS on it. With new kernel and all. It was remotely wiped soon as the news hit popular sites.

It's all about business. Galaxy Nexus needs to be first offical phone with ICS. Contracts with carriers, ect. It's a major selling point to make them money.
[Nexus S General] buachaille:
Every single ICS rom I've tried has been laggy, and superuser won't open. Other small problems too. I know it's still being developed and the devs are busy on it, i'm not criticising, but are others having problems like the above.

I keep flashing it and then going back to gingerbread. must have flashed about 8 times already :-)
[Nexus S General] 4I-I:
Im nie ob drews build... i reflashed it but wiped with the full-wipe.zip before... Nov Problem whatsoever!!

Have you always done a full wipe before flashing a new rom?
[Nexus S General] Javs2010:
Haven't had that problem at all

Sent from my CM7 Nexus S
[Nexus S General] sc0ri0n:
Currently trying this one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1364411

Does not seem to be laggy but market does not recognize my account properly, cannot restore apps :(
[Nexus S General] drleospaceman:
Same, they all have big frames/second lag spikes doing things like viewing the app/widget menus, and occasional noticeable delays when pressing the home button. I thought GPU acceleration would get rid of low FPS spikes.
[Nexus S General] 4I-I:
Does market even not work when you flash gapps over it? Just an idea! ;)

sent from the best phone money can buy!
[Nexus S General] blazingwithfire:
Hi, I'm a newbie here... :)

BTW, finally decided to root my nexus S (9023) as I'm becoming impatient waiting for official ICS. :)

So, i use custom ROM CM9 from Koush, and it seems everything's working fine. Havent going through all the features though... But some of the previous feature that I read didnt work on some of the ICS ROMs I find it to be working just fine on my device, e.g. wifi, panorama photo.

One point though, when I flash the Google Apps, Google Wallet cannot be used properly, and it keeps giving notification pop-up saying that it has stopped working.

Anyway, as a newbie user Im quite happy with what I've done. thanks to all the good people here... :)
[Nexus S General] zlwu:
Great summary
[Nexus S General] comatron:
if i unlock, root and flash this, will i be able to recieve to official ota update when its out? i have nu clu when it will be out...
[Nexus S General] Yoz182:
New kang by fitsnugly : update-cm-9.0.0-RC0-NS-KANG

here : http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
[Nexus S General] 4I-I:
When the ota's out youll find it as a zip here on xda! But if you want it to be shown as an update on your phone you have to go back to stock i think... because these roms arent official so it wont be recognized as an android version on your phone!

Or am i wrong?
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Question: In the ICS keyboard, under "Advanced Settings" what is "Key pop up dismiss delay?" I tried both options and I don't see any difference between them. Anybody know?

And is it me, or is the keyboard still incredibly prone to typing "km" instead of "I'm"? I swear, even when I see the key pop up "I" then "M", I see "km" written instead. I wish Google would allow custom auto-corrections so we can edit and choose autocorrections that we want. It's frustrating to see that the keyboard is still not recognizing these types of mistakes when typing fast.

EDIT: All in all, I find the keyboard still very disappointing. It baffles me why Google still wants to model their keyboard after iOS, when they could, and should, be modeling their keyboards after keyboards from the market that allow for custom-auto corrections, long press for symbols across the entire keyboard (not just the numbers row), or allow resizing the keys, etc. The keyboard can be so much better.
[Nexus S General] SupaDupaFly24:
YESSSS!! We are getting close!

Google Employees Are Receiving Ice Cream Sandwich OTAs On Their Nexus S Phones - Dogfooding Has Begun

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...on-their-nexus-s-phones-dogfooding-has-begun/
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Exciting news. Usually, how long does this "dogfeeding" process take with Google?
[Nexus S General] benrees21:
I'm betting on 20th December it will start going out.

Sent from my Nexus S on CM9, Morfic's SEUV Kernel and some help from Tapatalk!
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
i'm intrested tooo :D :D finally we'll get the official drivers and binaries :P
[Nexus S General] ruthlesset:
I wish someone gets their hand on the update URL
[Nexus S General] AtomicPC:
How does the face unlock work? Pretty good? Also, how does the face unlock work? Do you just look and press a button?
[Nexus S General] SupaDupaFly24:
IDK but I hope soon!!! I thinking a couple of weeks!
[Nexus S General] prinz3nroll3:
cant wait...

i change the employer ;)
[Nexus S General] Serris:
http://www.techenga.com/2011/11/28/...ial-update-to-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich/

^^

cant wait, that is if its true
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Using the ICS keyboard port, it still bothers me that the keyboard still doesn't do certain things. Small things like capitalizing the letter "i" in the middle of a sentence, or auto correcting "il" to "I'll" or "wel" to "we'll."

Not to mention it's disappointing Google still models their keyboard after iOS' instead of after the third party developers who make far better ones and have far better customizations. We should have custom auto corrections. And long press should be across the entire keyboard, not just for the number line on the top row.

It's a little irritating the keyboard is still not as good as it could potentially be.
[Nexus S General] Fylk:
I know as a US user I'm likely boned on this, but I don't care. AWESOME.
[Nexus S General] xsteven77x:
Hmm I have a Google employee limited edition phone maybe I should flash back to stock?
[Nexus S General] AndroidUser00110001:
Give it a shot :) If you do get the update then don't forget to post it.
[Nexus S General] snandlal:
It would make you famous
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
helll yeahhh plz go back to stockkk anddd yessss post it!!! :D
[Nexus S General] frenchbigdog:
Hope we'll get the upgrade before xmas ...
[Nexus S General] SupaDupaFly24:
!!!!!!!!!!! I will freak out if you get the OTA and post the link!
[Nexus S General] juliano_q:
Yes!! Pleeeeease :D
[Nexus S General] ruthlesset:
Please stock your phone and post the URL here. I ordered the Galaxy nexus today morning, but I would still like to have ICS on my Nexus S.
[Nexus S General] xsteven77x:
Well what i will do right now is make a nandroid and flash back to stock temporarily and see if by some chance in hell (which i think is all their is) there is some way it comes through. I'll be sure to run log cat :)

Just a little info, i bought this phone used from a google employee. It's the i9020t limited edition also so lets hope the IMEI is still listed as an employee phone! Not getting my hopes up though.

Edit: Back on gb, is there a way to force check updates? I forget what it is.

---------- Post added at 09:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:06 PM ----------

Dam. Did the checkin and no updates. From what i have read it's not even ALL google employees so maybe the IMEI's are specifically listed for the ones that get it :(
[Nexus S General] Killasmoke:
I hope Google doesn't play games they better send it out to the 4g as well I hope they don't be like well the nexus s4g got Google wallet first so we'll give the nexus s ics & the Nexus s4g can wait month after cuz I'll be pissed off that's 1 thing apple does real good is send update to all iPhones at the same time! But I hate apple Google don't **** this up!!!
[Nexus S General] snandlal:
Google is more likely to post the OTA update package on google groups before most will even get the update notification on their phones
[Nexus S General] cyc1120:
Ok. This might sound dumb but is there no option to use my own ringtone for the alarm in ICS?
[Nexus S General] Jerol7190:
yep, I know we will. The verizon galaxy nexus comes out next week and they said shortly after that, right?
[Nexus S General] Killasmoke:
no news on sprint getting a galaxy nexus but I just read online & on phandroid that January 10 sprint , Samsung & Intel are going to show off a new device at CES 2012 this thing is going too have a new processor named Atom that is going to be the fastest have killer graphics java script Web browsing blow everything out the water & its going to have Android 4.0 in this bad boy can't wait to see & read more about this thing!!
[Nexus S General] snooogins:
the Atom in a phone? Even the single core would require a crazy battery, wouldn't it?
[Nexus S General] mohsin125:
i have an employee edition i9020....can u please tell me how should i turn my phone to stock to check for OTA
[Nexus S General] ajftl:
lmao...best one so far...u serious? lol
[Nexus S General] jishnu7:
Download and Flash the latest OTA from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1063664 then check for updates.
[Nexus S General] krazykat:
Lol. Well it's easy for apple to update all their phones at once cause they make their own phones with a closed environment. Google can't do that with all Droids because there are too many flavors (and companies). And if you are just talking about the nexus line, then, it's a marketing method to attract those that can't wait for ics.
[Nexus S General] 4I-I:
Are there any new ics based roms out? I keep looking but cant find any new ones... would be nice if sb could direct me to one i didnt see! If there is one of course... ;)

Thanks!!!

sent from the best phone buyable in the matr1x! ;D
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
You know what's utterly stupid? Google still thinks people will need the word "ill" more than "I'll."

There's no easy way to type "I'll" except typing "ill" then selecting "I'll" from the suggestion bar. This is stupid. Typing "il" results in three choices in the suggestion bar: Il, Ill, or Illinois.

:confused:
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Or why typing "mich" doesn't auto correct to "much." Does Google really think I need the word "mich" more than "much"?

As smart as the keyboard has become, it still does some things utterly dumb.
[Nexus S General] davewpy:
Works for me.

Works for me too if. I tested with as much as.

What rom are u guys using.
[Nexus S General] AASonyKK:
I just installed ics CM9 alpha 9 and it works fine (I9023).

Is very cool ICS :cool:
[Nexus S General] HAKA:
anyone can please provide me the link to latest kang with best quadrant score?
[Nexus S General] thegtfusion:
link: http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/

you can download the kangs there. about quadrant scores i dont know as i dont use ICS cuz wifi doesnt work ;)
[Nexus S General] d3xt3r003:
pls help!

sorry for the silly question but i installed ICS to my Nexus S and now my phone dont want to send my number just the Unknown title...where can i find the option for this in ICS?

edit: thegtfusion: wifi works on my Nexus S with ICS!
[Nexus S General] onthecouchagain:
Dave, can you clarify what you mean by "works for me"? Does your ICS keyboard auto correct "il" or "ill" to "i'll"? Or do you mean picking "I'll" from the suggestion bar after typing in "ill" is a method that you're okay with?

When I type "as mich" it still comes out as "as Mich" which is incredibly frustrating. Not sure why there's a difference between yours and mine. I am running an ICS keyboard that was downloaded from the Market, that the developer put up based on the AOSP leak.

How are you running yours?
[Nexus S General] AASonyKK:
I, using CM9 alpha 11, do 1500 with quadrant.

Very bad result :eek:

EDIT: I re do the test a second time and i get 1690, bad anyway.
[Nexus S General] Shahzad7:
I've been using Franco's kernal (Dec.3.2011) with brainmasters ICS v6 (Koush) and I get around ~2500 on quadrant. My phones not overclocked, the max in 1Ghz and the min is 800Mhz and the scaling is on performance.

Is this good?
[Nexus S General] AASonyKK:
2500 is good, i have the same kernel and i don't know why i get only 1600-1700

This is very strange.
[Nexus S General] XCellPhoneSalesRep:
Latest CM9 Kangwiches are update daily right HERE.

Lastest posted today are:

1) update-cm-9.0.0-RC0-NS-KANG-signed.12042011-0856.zip by @fitsnugly

2) update-cm-9.0.0-RC0-NS-KANG-signed.zip by @gearheadcustoms

3) update-cm-9.0.0-RC0-NS-KANG-signed.zip by Brenix

exact differences : UNKNOWN

scores : ?
[Nexus S General] davewpy:
It auto corrects both samples that you stated, by just pressing space

I'm using kwiboo v3 stock. That probably explains why.
[Nexus S General] Bernardo S:
Hello all,

I'm running NMV 2.11.30, based on koush's CM9 Alpha 11 on my i9023.

Everything I've tried is running fine (including Wifi), and I got 2389 quadrants with the latest franco kernel (Dec 03), no OC and smartass governor.

The only annoying problem is that I always get full bars on signal strength and can't affect media volume when listening to music by using volume buttons (all ICS roms behave this way so far). By the way, I'm not getting FCs from Google Wallet.

I've also tried koush's and kwiboo's, and had some problems in the first versions, but nothing really annoying. Pretty stable to be the first ICS roms around. All NMV, koush and kwiboo have working Wifi and Google Calendar sync in their latest versions on i9023.

By the way, I recommend to wipe everything and format /system when moving to an ICS rom. The first time I installed koush' rom it was impossible to configure mobile data (with cache and data wipe). When I tried again after formatting /system everything run fine.
[Nexus S General] AASonyKK:
After another full wipe i get 1500 points, I will flash kang.

EDIT: I flashed one ics cm9 kang rom but i take always 1500 points in quadrant.

Now i have a question: before flash rom i wipe data factory and cache from cwm. This is correct? What is and where i can find "format /system"?
[Nexus S General] fera2k:
I used CM9 Alpha 11 for about a week, and I found it very stable.

The only matter is that some apps that I like very much are not ICS ready yet. Like GO SMS Pro and some Moboplayer.

So I decided to wait a little more.

Now using NSCollab 1.0.60.
[Nexus S General] mstevens:
Redundant? Also, redundant?
[Nexus S General] cosimoss:
Like this:

http://youtu.be/DDfmkMDue6c

It works a treat.
[Nexus S General] DWake014:
Would be funny it it was Christmas day
[Nexus S General] AeroEchelon:
Question: Is there a preference as to why I see almost everybody running Koush's CM9 A11 Rom over Kiwboo's v3 ROM? They are almost practically the same except I find that the CM9 A11 has a bit more glitches. (i.e. Market download fails, Keyboard notification pops up all the time when keyboard is on the screen, etc.)

None of that happens on the Kiwiboo ROM.

I've been running Koush's v3 ROM with the latest franco.kernel[Dec 3] kernel and everything is great.

Does everyone just blindly choose to use the Koush ROM because it has the tag CM9?
[Nexus S General] peacekeeper05:
^

no. I am using cm9 kangs because it is a lot smoother smoother and more stable. I have tried kwibbo's ICS- it's good but not as smooth.
[Nexus S General] pakron:
format /system is under mount and storage (cwm)
[Nexus S General] ekerazha:
I bet the Ice Cream Sandwich OTA will start on 16th December, 1 year after the Nexus S launch.
[Nexus S General] wil3:
Damn, I was thinking the same when I was reading Nexus S wiki page this morning :) It would be quite a symbolic move made by Google.
[Nexus S General] LoomyBear:
Hi I've installed the KwiBoo ICS release v3 ...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1354263

...on my Nexus S.

And I've got problem with the Google Wallet that seems to be a part of ICS core.

1. When phone is fully loaded I have alert window popped up saying that google wallet "unfortunately stopped working" a couple of times

2. After I used a phone for a while I've founded that this Google Wallet slays the battery with insane rates. "Battery use" told me that Google Wallet uses about 53% of battery comparing to all the apps. Since GW is a core app of the iOS I can't force stop or kill it or whatever it starts over and over again after I'm killing it.

Also can you tell me if this possible to get additional dictionaries for keyboard inputs, I have only English, Japaneese, and Chineese ... I would be nice to get the Russian.

Thanx in advance!
[Nexus S General] shockem:
Hopefully they roll it out before the 20th. They cant keep me waiting forever...
[Nexus S General] AeroEchelon:
It was always cool to know that I have Google Wallet on my phone but it's disadvantages outweigh its current advantages. I rarely use Google Wallet and since Wallet is always running in the background it will use some portion of your battery though not as high as you mentioned.

Also, iOS only refers to the iPhone/iPad operating system.