yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
The NTSH Beta 2 rom here is more stable, it's missing usb mount though and it's a little slower. It's still very smooth though, but it has some graphics issues still. The Beta 4 over on rootzwiki is super fast and smooth but has severe launcher issues that have not yet been resolved, mainly if you fill up your homescreens the cycling between homescreen pages becomes very very sluggish and laggy, at some points it actually freezes for a few seconds. The other issue with the launcher is the app drawer, it fc's on occasion, if you are trying to scroll fast through the widget section of the app drawer it will fc almost every single time you are in it (this happens on all launchers available, stock, trebuchet and nova). usb mount is working though.

Neither have working camera and both still need things fixed graphically but honestly at this point, until the launcher issues are fixed with Beta 4, I recommend using NTSH Beta 2 here on xda.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] it2swbrown:
Only if using the stock launcher or Nova. The launcher issues are not present with Adw ex on the roots rom.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
I understand that, I pointed out the 3 launchers I was referencing. Was giving him an opinion based off of the full ICS experience. NTSH is able to use the stock launchers meant for ICS with no problem so it was necessary to point out that there is an issue when trying to do the same on Aerovans Beta 4. :)

Shouldn't have to use a launcher meant for Gingerbread. ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] it2swbrown:
I didn't see where you pointed out the launchers you were referring to. My bad.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
no problem man, it's all good. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
You should try out adwx they updated it to run on ics its actually very nice. If you set the transitions to random the launcher looks very nice. I recommended at least trying it after using the stock ics launcher. Not to mention the dock is redone to look honeycombish and there's an ics home screen indicator option
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
Thanks for the tip but I'll pass, it's appreciated but I don't want anything but what will actually give me the full ICS experience. I'm okay with using NTSH Beta 2 until Aerovan fixes the launcher issues on his rom. I had wished rm2011 and touchpro would be updating NTSH, especially since the ICS drivers for HTC have been leaked for the sensation, but it appears they have abandonded this rom. Haven't seen anything from them is quite along time. :(
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mturco:
Am I the only one that is getting really decent battery life on ICS? (I'm running the NTSH beta 2 rom btw.)

Edit: I'm overclocked to 1.5GHz too.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] it2swbrown:
I'm getting about 18 hours of heavy use on aerovans build.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] r_dub:
Yeah me to and I'm undervolted too lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] RegnierD:
I'll see if I can get a screenie of what that looks like with the OEM extended battery. Lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] vrgelinas:
I'm getting about 18 hours in rural nh where my radios work harder. That and exchange sync set to push, Gmail set to push, and my workplace having almost no reception. And plenty of web surfing. The battery life has improved a bit since when I installed.

I'm clocked to 1.4 with a 96MB heap and very little fc issues. Running the beta4 build.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] it2swbrown:
Ours is just about the same. I have two push exchange account and two push Gmail accounts along all of my other apps that sync every 15 minutes, all 9 screens in adw ex filled with mostly updating Widgets. I am not undervolted yet but will probably do it tonight. I also stream spotify almost all day. Weird issue with my work computers sound card drivers. Lol.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
ME too! great battery life on NTSH_Beta 2

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ADW Ex works awesome with Beta 4. However, and I don't get this; ADW free has the app drawer issues. .....Go figure...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JLow0214:
Did they really abandon this rom??????
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
It seems that way, but it will do until Protekk and Areoeven and the boys get there's more up to speed. Which will most likely be sooner then later. Or if the CM team drop 9 out. Only time will tell.....I can deal with out the dag on camera just fine.

Touchpro did a great job on this ROM and now , I do believe; he is throwing his efforts/talents in with Protekk and Areoevan over at Rootz.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] JLow0214:
The camera is a deal breaker for me. I have tried all the betas they are nice tho
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] [::AP::]:
Great ROM. I used it all last week.

I'm still on Beta 1.

Can someone point me to the page where the Beta 2 (from what I understand, that is the most stable) Beta 3, 4, etc downloads are? I cannot seem to locate them.

(Yes I've searched)

Thanks.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
NTSH Beta_2

here you go, its coming from my public Drop Box folder so let me know when your done downloading it please. Thanks:

Edit link removed to make space in my Drop Box.....
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
When in doubt, check rootzwiki. There is a thread there under Inc2.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
He is looking for the Touchpro NTSH beta_2. it wasn't released/posted over on Rootz. Just here..... I posted a link for him in my last post. :-)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cac2us:
Invisible files

Has anyone else noticed the folder on Touchpros site?

The one labeled CM9, It has invisible files inside.;) LOL

Maybe he knows something is getting close.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
I would be nice if touchpro and rm2011 would at least tell us if they intend on abandoning this rom, some sort of feedback. I love all the progress made on NTSH and although they owe us nothing it would be appreciated if they would give us some sort of message on whether they intend on continuing or not. I'm sure there are alot of others that want to see a Beta 3 and a Beta 4 etc etc.

Guys, if you are at least still reading this thread, please let us know whats going on. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] silentjoker:
Invisibible..,,..... llol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] silentjoker:
Well not much is changing so there's really nothing new to output. Or at least worth effort of rigging together. I'm sure they are waiting for more progress from source base first. This rom was more to showcase for now.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
Not much is changing? ICS for the Sensation just leaked, meaning the ICS drivers for HTC just leaked. This is what all the developers have been saying will fix EGL, I'd say that is something that could make a significant improvement on these roms. Also, although NTSH is pretty stable, Aerovans Beta 4 desperately needs the issues with the launcher to be fixed. So that being said, there is quite a bit more that can be done with both these roms. Either way, they should at least tell us what the situation is, rm2011 has not posted in weeks and it's going on over a week since we heard from touchpro as well.

P.S. didn't mean to sound snippy in my post. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
Inquiring minds want to know....... Now in all seriousness, I bet you those guys (Touchpro, Protekk, Areoeven, RM..etc....) are all over the Sensation leak. They have to look at and research the code before they can start adopting it to there sources for these roms. Patience my friend........It will come.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mturco:
Why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that this has been abandoned? Touchpro posted in here only a few days ago...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] joefrog1996:
Is it possible the every one is trying to make the new sensation drivers compatable with our phone. Don't both the phones use similar procesors? I hope we we not abandoned.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] RegnierD:
This is my battery info. I've been using the phone pretty extensively, on max brightness with an OEM extended battery. :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] [::AP::]:
Thank you very much.

Finished downloading.

Do I flash over the existing installation or as a new ROM?

Thanks again,

[::AP::]
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] vrgelinas:
Flashing over is possible, but given that these are beta builds, I would definitely err on the side of caution and do a superwipe... That's what I've had the best luck with with ICS.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] [::AP::]:
Will do.

10char
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] rudyutz:
I just wanna make sure, Gapps is included right?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] [::AP::]:
I'm 99% sure Gapps is included.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] pioneersohpioneers:
hey guys, i've been lurking here and running NTSH b1/b2 for the past few days. They're great and I've enjoyed running them. Touch, rm, aero and protex, you guys rock. Hopefully NTSH hasn't been abandoned though!

I've come across a lot of the same bugs as y'all, but one I've noticed that hasn't been brought up in the 160+ pages, haha, is that if you disable data, it won't reconnect once you've re-enabled data.

I go into System Settings -> More -> Mobile networks and force 2G networks (which also doesn't work). When Use only 2g networks is checked, I get the signal triangle with no bars and an R above the hypotenuse. Also, "Network Mode" has changed to "GSM only" from "CDMA w/ EvDo" (which I'm pretty sure is Verizon). Sometimes "Network Mode" changes to "WCDMA only"

When I uncheck "Use only 2g networks" and change the Network Mode back to

"CDMA w/ EvDo," I get nothing and have to reboot.

Can anyone recreate this? Try forcing 2g data, backing out and going back into Mobile Network settings. Network Mode should have changed.

Thanks guys, keep up the great work and hopefully the sensation drivers will fix all our ICS woes!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] [::AP::]:
I'll try it when I reflash NTSH Beta...

I wish there was a bug tracker...however if the project has been dropped, it would be pointless?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
Sorry man, I've never encountered that issue with any of the ICS betas. On occasion my phone will sometimes stick on 1x instead of 3G if I was at a store with bad reception and it's usually just the status bar icon that actually is sticking, but since I'm anal about that kind of stuff I would turn off my data and turn it back on to get the 3G symbol showing again, everytime i have done this my data turns right back on no problem.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
Sorry, first I checked the thread today. Lil' busy at work. Full wipe.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
So while I was browsing the web I ran across some info stating that updating to the proper libs will fix the screen corruptions (aka graphics glitching), even a few developers from CM Team have said this. If that is correct then modding the Sensation kernel and EGL to work with the Inc2 should give us full hardware acceleration and no more messed up graphics in music player, gallery etc.

This is just what I heard, I am not a developer so I could undoubtedly be wrong. But.... I'm gonna be optimistic. :D

In fact I'm gonna go ahead and believe that the reason we haven't heard from any of the developers much or at all lately is because they are hard at work tweaking their roms with some up to date ICS compatible HTC goodness. :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
It depends on what they were talking about, there are libs used when compiling the ROM (graphic things like the framework, etc) and there are libraries

that reside on the phone on the phone/ROM that get " called " when preforming a task. Also the kernel need libs to be compiled but has no libraries in it when compiled. So they could be talking about he libs needed to compile the graphic drivers properly or the whole ICS ASOP ROM or they could be talking about the libs needed to run the UI after the ROM is compiled.

Does that make Sense? In other words its gonna take a little time.

Also the sensation leak means this: Yes its HTC but unless the Sensation uses the exact same chip set as the Incredible 2, the it is useless. I think it does have the same camera chip so that would help, but if it does not have the same processor , radio chips, its kernel will mean nothing. What they can use are the LIBS/source for the camera driver.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
Yes but aren't all of these items available by taking apart the sensations ICS source or at least the proper items to contruct these things? As long as a developer is willing to put the time into modifying everything to work with the Inc2.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
ICS is ICS no matter what the phone. The differences comes down to the kernel and having the proper libs for the proper chip set when compiling the kernel. So you have to have built the Rom and the drivers using the proper and same libs and source.

So unless the Sensation has the the sames chips, the only use it will be is for finding minor glitches. However like I said I do believe it has the same camera chip that are in the dinc2/IncS so that will be a step forward. And the sensation code will be cleaner with bug fixes that are universal to ICS ( ICS is ICS) so that will help as well.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
So wouldn't integrating those things from the Sensation and the ICS adreno 205 drivers from the Sony Xperia phones give us a substantial improvement if they were combined and modified to be utilized on our device?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
I do believe the ROOTZ beta 4 has the Sony/Ericsson Adreno 205 Code compiled for the graphics, so it will help in the sense of looking what Libs they used to compile the drivers with and what modifications they(HTC) did to the code pertaining to that.

But like I said it comes down to the kernel. The kernel is the brain and the heart. If the Sensation does not have any of the same chips, it will only be useful in seeing what and how the did with the Libs. Which will help immensely!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] M..N:
Got a link to the rootz b4 thread?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
Just head over to Rootzwiki forum and look up the Dinc2 development AOSP beta 4 and the link is on the first page. It is faster then this rom but not as stable.

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Just did a little research, the Sensation has a totally different Snapdragon chip then the Dinc2 so I do not know how much help it will actually be. I mean it might as well be a hummingbird processor.

The Dinc2 has the Single core 1.0-1.4 GHZ chip which handles all the radios, System processes and some of the 2D graphics all the rest of the graphics are handles by the GPU.

The Sensation has the Snapdragon 2, which is a 1.0 - 1.4 Dual Core. Totally different chip-set and different LIBS will be needed because its a dual core not a single core. However I do believe the GPU is the same Adreno 205 so that will help.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] yurilebbie:
Does anyone have the gsm patch still? I searched and tried to use touchpro's link but it has expired already.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
Yep. Here you go:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9399595/ntsh_by_tp_v1.1.zip
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] r_dub:
Don't flash that it breaks com.android.phone aka the dialer you cannot dial out.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
It broke it if you flashed it over Beta_1. It does not break it if you flash it over Beta_2/ However I have not tested it yet......

EDIT: OK I just tested it. It does not work. Give you the settings but does not hook up to GSM.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] yurilebbie:
I just installed the patch and it works perfectly, or at least has not yet messed up. Texting and calling out both work perfectly.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
Over GSM?

Over GSM? I connected over CDMA/EvDo just fine but got nadda when I switched to straight GSM....
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] yurilebbie:
Yes over gsm. Just in case you didn't know, with all aosp roms you need to restart to activate GSM.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] times_infinity:
Nice try. Sensation is Adreno220
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Dang....... Oh well.....

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
I did reboot, but then it crashed....:confused:

Holy Crapolla, third times the charm......working now after 2 reboots.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] r_dub:
Don't forget what time of the year it is just because some aren't busy doesn't mean we all aren't. Real life takes precedent over android especially this time of year at least in my book. Happy Holidays to all.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
So a better kernel could be built by researching sensation code? I know aerovan is like a god at making kernels so it's a good thing we have him working on the inc2.

I thought the Sensation had an Adreno 220. Are they very similar?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
Your right, it does have the 220 so again no help for us. So I do not know what CCD Chip is used in our camera but if it is the same as Sensations then the can look at the code for that driver. Aeroeven would have to either make a kernel module or compile the driver right into the kernel. Other then that they can look at any of the LIBS the used to compile the rest of the rom and see if there was any code clean up.

EDIT: The conundrum is, if the camera driver is proprietary (so no source code) and has been compiled into the HTC Sensation kernel, then I do not know how they can get the driver. If its is proprietary and been compiled as a module then he can just pull the module out and have it loaded into his kernel by init scripts.(these are fired off at boot)

Best situation would be that there is source code and he could compile the driver himself. either in or as a module.

OH and check this out, so I loaded/flashed the old GSM update over Beta_2 and the GSM works on reboot.(no longer crashes the dialer like in beta_1) I also downloaded the new Google music and I have No, none, nada graphic issues with it. Smooth transitions to landscape too. I also have the transitions and fading in the developer section set to 1.5 for both. Other then the Cam and USB mount you would never know it is a Beta.

EDIT I spoke too soon...in album select landscape, red screen, :-(
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] twistedumbrella:
New kernel updates and libs released last night. Camera isn't a part of the updates yet, but it should solve any remaining graphics issues. The sensation camera is a combined kernel modification and most likely camera.platform.so file. Not something that could just be pulled out, but at least most likely not entirely closed source, either.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
Sweet TwistedUmbrella, I appreciate the update. That's good to know. Maybe a happy new year after all! ha ha ha! Thanks again and merry Christmas, or Happy Hanukkah!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
Yea, I noticed that in albums you get the red screen, in recent you get fc almost everytime and in the other two you get minor yellow graphics artifacting in the upper corners. I'm optimitic after reading twistedumbrellas comment that we will hopefully be seeing an even smoother rom after the new year. :)

So does that mean you might be able to use somethings from it to possibly start working on a camera fix at least?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
With that partial driver .so file and the new kernel source and libs maybe...Its in the hands of the experts..

EDIT: most likely it will mean a perfect rom except the camera.....but ya never know....

EDIT: What I was thinking might happen, and I do not know if they ever have done this, pure speculation; but I was thinking maybe one of the DEV's over at CM might be working on a library to bridge the gap and use the GB camera driver. In theory it could be done but I am no programmer, script kiddie at best: so It might be just too much work to do that. I don't know, just a thought.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
Now if that were to happen would we still have the good quality of the ICS camera even if using the GB driver? I know that when I was using CM7 the camera sucked.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
My guess would be no full function of the camera. Like possibly no pano cam, and stuff like that. That just makes sense in my head.

And the newer cm7 kang by Aero has some ICS like functions like swipe to get rid of notifications.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
Would depend on the quality of the library and how it interacts with ICS. Like I said might be way too hard to do...Pure speculation... And also a camera is only as good as the driver driving it. We haven't changed the hardware, just the OS. I know it Android but 4.0 is so different then previous it like Windows 3.0 compared to 7. or MAC 1.0 from 1984 compared to tiger..etc...Its just does things totally different then GB and previous...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ABQNM:
Lol the notifications swipe to dismiss was in CM7.1 for months now. It is much more accurate now though on 7.2 as on 7.1 it took multiple tries to fling it away.

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Hahah I haven't used it since the nightlies were like in the 70's I think

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
The notification swipe was always buggy in my opinion. You go to fast and it would just rest back forcing you to try again, you go to slow and it just sticks to you until you let go and then it goes back.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ABQNM:
Have you tried Aeroevan's 7.2 kang? It works flawlessly in 7.2.

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Grouper:
.so files are library files.

An astute observation.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kerfex:
Yes I know the but for the camera there was only the one function .so file not the entire source. But for the Kernel, general that is; all new libs were released, so partial .so file on cam, full .so files on kernel. Peace.

EDIT: Oh and thank you! Merry Christmas.

EIDT 2; Not all libs are .so. some are libs that are called during a function. But those are compiled from .so libs as well..... I wasn't sure what Dankblaze understood about libs and kernel compilation so I was trying to state it in understandable terms.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
So it looks like we may get a Christmas build from protekk. He sent one out for the t-bolt, and he said we weren't forgotten so we should see something good soon. He said his builds are getting better.

According to his twitter he's compiling now

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[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
I am officially stoked, Hopefully we get it before I have to go visit my family tomorrow. :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
New Christmas build up.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] yurilebbie:
Here is the link to his 4.0.3 rom that he just compiled
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] mturco:
Here's the "Merry Christmas build" (his words):

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/9984-rom-ice-cream-sandwich-incredible-2-403-christmas-edition/

Edit: beaten. lol
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Ah pffft you guys provided links. Links are overrated. :-)

Sent from my Incredible 2
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
Awesome, just noticed it was up a little bit ago, downloading now. Glad I have something to do, my house is vacant and I was getting bored.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Almost done downloading. Will probably flash and play in bed.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] it2swbrown:
That's what she said... OK back on topic. Lol.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] tmlhodge:
.......Kinky
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Jizzylax:
Lol..... should have phrased that differently.

This build is amaaaazing.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] r_dub:
Best ICS build to date on either forum. I would actually say it doesn't deserve the beta tag anymore should be release 1.0. No bugs to report yet, worth the flash.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dlln147:
YouTube still lags. :(