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[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] CodaHighland:
Gingerbread is a substantial improvement over Froyo, so I do recommend updating. If you're not using a NAND build right now, though, go for GBX instead of OMGB. (Besides, GBX is a little more up-to-date than OMGB -- it has consistently-working wifi tethering, for example; OMGB, like older versions of GBX, risks crashing the phone when you turn tethering off.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] sam_1421:
Thanks for the reply, I installed it and I'm happy with it.

Why do you recommend this? What's the main differences between the two?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
NAND is flashing Android to the phone, wiping out WinMo. The other... obviously you know runs on the SD card and reboots bring you back to WinMo.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] sam_1421:
OK so it must be much faster than running Android from the SD card I guess?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Not really. There's not so much IOWait, so I guess the hiccups happen less... but overall NAND and SD cards have the same transfer rates... They're technically both using NAND flash gates...

It's either WinMo & Android or just Android. No WinMo. Don't make it any more complicated than that :).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
I agree. I live in Venezuela and depending on the city I visit battery life varies wildly!

I guess we have our carriers to blame for the lousy tower configuration! :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] walter79:
new kernel is online. Check ACLs google code page.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] walter79:
Did someone compared battery drain with different kernel?

Nand 2.6.27 kernel need ~ 100 mA/h in sleep mode, 2G only, no background data, no sync, no data or wifi connection. With flashed Windows Mobile only 25-60 mA/h.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Keep in mind, the new kernel only effects the algo - how the batt levels are calculated. ACL said it's quite possible there's still components/hardware that aren't properly being shut off when going into collapse mode.

So the only reason you'd get more battery life from this new kernel is if we weren't charging to 100% before - and now we are.

Again, the big benefit is in the reporting of the battery level, not the actual life. ACL's next mission (I believe) is to investigate if there is anything sucking powa in collapse that shouldn't be.

Also, this isn't the right thread to post about NAND kernels in. These kernels are for HaRET... Crap, I really don't want to try and merge the 2 threads. Sorry detule.

Wow, managed to merge the threads/posts. That worked pretty well in fact! walter79, keep in mind that other kernels thread is for HaRET kernels only ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] walter79:
Can someone test new low memory killer settings?

I change settings in ACLs latest kernel ramdisk

init.rc:

original: write /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree 2048,3072,4096,6144,7168,8192

new:

write /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree 1536,2048,2304,2560,2816,3072

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25216185&postcount=98
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] LightC:
WIFI tethering hotspot

Hi guys,

So I use my TP2 a ton as a wifi hotspot for my tablet / laptop while at work or traveling.

The built-in android portable hotspot feature works great in this build with the exception that it doesn't turn off correctly. When I turn off the hot spot, the hot spot icon and dock status 'Tethering or hotspot active' does not go away. It also results in a crash / reboot of the TP2 shortly after being switched off.

I can post logs but was just wondering if anyone is using the TP2 as a hot spot and running into the same issue.

FYI, I'm using a CDMA Rhodium on Sprint
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] mbellot:
It's a known issue. IIRC someone found at least part of the problem, but a "fix" was never finalized.

Your best bet is to use the XDA wireless tether for root application (a quick search should locate it).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Ironically on HaRET w/the new kernels & firmware the built-in wifi tethering works flawlessly.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] LightC:
I noticed that I experienced less hiccups using nand but I haven't tried xdandroid in over 6 months. I'm taking there has been some significant improvements.

WIFI Tether for Root only supports WEP, right? For some reason, my HP Touchpad running ICS is more friendly with WPA2-protected networks.

I will look into trying xdandroid again
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
The built-in tethering app supports infrastructure networks. Most third party ones only do ad-hoc, which I don't think the Touchpad supports.

There was some new wifi tethering app on the market tho, the name is escaping me... 1 sec.

Not sure if this was it, but it might work - http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/

However, I'm hoping there's some effort to get newer kernels to run on NAND. There's definitely benefits, wifi tethering being one of them.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] AkumaX:
are you looking for FoxFi?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Sounds familiar. I haven't tried it myself, does it work on our junk in infrastructure mode?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] LightC:
Ah, FoxFi does work in infra mode. When I enable the hotspot in FoxFi, it seems that the built-in android hotspot activates as well. This would be fine if disabling in FoxFi would disable the built-in hotspot. However, when I disable the FoxFi hotspot, the android hotspot active status message does not go away. Additionally, if I try to re-activate the FoxFi hotspot after deactivating I get an error. Also results in an eventual crash / SOD.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] LightC:
Ok, I'll try to post logs over the next few days.

By the way, do you guys use a widget to switch off 3G / mobile data sync? If so, could you direct me to the app? The built-in toggle widget only has enable / disable data sync. I'd prefer to have a one button widget that disables or enables 3G and the data sync in one go.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] JDog2pt0:
I've used both, and currently use the first one. (note they only turn off 3G but that pretty much turns off sync too :p)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5kYXRhbGlua3N3aXRjaCJd

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...J2ZWZpc2gud2lkZ2V0cy5uZXR3b3JrMmczZ29ub2ZmIl0.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] CodaHighland:
As far as I know, such a widget is actually not possible because Android doesn't expose those settings to userspace. I use the 2G-3G OnOff one that JDog2pt0 linked (the second link) on my phone because I prefer to switch to 2G when I'm not actively using data, and all it does is open up the menu with the data options. (But the "data enabled" button is on the same menu.)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] JDog2pt0:
The first one actually turns the data on or off without opening up the menu. The second one opens the menu up and you turn the data on or off.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] CodaHighland:
Oh. I guess it's just the 2G/3G switch that doesn't have userspace access, not the main data on/off switch.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
i posted a last test kernel prior to next release. Just testing the limits of the new batt driver. Should be a bit more aggressive than the first kern.

http://rhodium-nand.googlecode.com/files/Kernel_NewBattTest2.zip

if nothing crazy happens, ill most likely throw this bad boy on the last omgb release.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] walter79:
Can you check this post please. Is it possible that sdcard slot make some havy battery drain?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25777862&postcount=231

(Sorry for 3 PM in past)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
I need some rhod100 folk to examine this . This will come in the last OMGB.

Some rhod100 folk reported their CID and I figured this would be a way to determine the KB type.

if [ $CID = "HTC__102" ] ; then
echo "USING EXPERIMENTAL RHOD100 (DE LAYOUT)"
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_de_microp-keypad.kl /system/usr/keylayout/microp-keypad.kl
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_de_microp-keypad.kcm.bin /system/usr/keychars/microp-keypad.kcm.bin
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_de_navi_pad.kl /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl
elif [ $CID = "HTC__405" ] ; then
echo "USING EXPERIMENTAL RHOD100 (IT DEFAULT)"
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_it_microp-keypad.kl /system/usr/keylayout/microp-keypad.kl
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_it_microp-keypad.kcm.bin /system/usr/keychars/microp-keypad.kcm.bin
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_it_navi_pad.kl /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl
elif [ $CID = "HTC__203" ] ; then
echo "USING EXPERIMENTAL RHOD100 (FR DEFAULT)"
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_fr_microp-keypad.kl /system/usr/keylayout/microp-keypad.kl
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_fr_microp-keypad.kcm.bin /system/usr/keychars/microp-keypad.kcm.bin
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_fr_navi_pad.kl /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl
else
echo "USING EXPERIMENTAL RHOD100 LAYOUT (UK DEFAULT)"
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_uk_microp-keypad.kl /system/usr/keylayout/microp-keypad.kl
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_uk_microp-keypad.kcm.bin /system/usr/keychars/microp-keypad.kcm.bin
cp -f /system/etc/keymaps/rhod100_uk_navi_pad.kl /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl
fi

I harvested thos numbers from some posts we had but it may not all be 100% correct. Also did i miss any other KB layouts ? if so what are they and what may be their matching CIDs ..

Thanks folks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] walter79:
Why not make a easy update.zip for keyboard files?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] hashtowent:
cant one just grab the needed files, any update.zip file

and replace the files in the archive? (to match the destination with other folderstructure)

cant think of anything easier for everyone (if we wanna do the work ourself, not to disturb you for less important things)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
Hi. I posted my phone's CID a while ago on ppcgeeks OMGB thread. It's a RHOD500 with a RHOD400 KB layout.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
By the way, these are RHOD500 csv's. I pulled them from my wife's phone. She's running a stock ROM. Hope they are useful.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
yeah i got you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
Thats what people do now i think .. no one stands around with the wrong kb.

My goal was just to flash and forget. 400/500s are pretty much there but 100/GSMs are the tough ones.

If no one answers, i'm releasing it this way.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] hashtowent:
i did it this way:

open kernel battery test2 archive

replaced everything under system folder

and it worked as supposed =)

why bother with more difficult solutions then this?

simple release of zip archives.

if one gets me all the layouts i would make a large zip containing all of them in single archives.

for qwertz: ÖÜÄ are in capital always! how to solve this? [use walters files]
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Yes, I believe this is the best/easiest way to ensure everyone gets the keyboard layout they desire - flashable zips. That way you can have many... and everyone is happy ;).
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
Yeah, like i said thats what people do now. lol. I just dont know who has the zips. I'm sure someone will eventually publish them all but not me. I'll just release what I have now cuz time is running out. :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] walter79:
I will make update.zip for german rhodium. After this people can use this file to build own file for different language.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
ACL, this ^^. People want it, people will make 'em ;). Take care of the rest of the build, don't get bogged down in this crap!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] nosedive:
ok here is what i made a couple of weeks ago.. my update zip with german keyboard layout, cwm flashable

don't remember where i got the layout files from neither the update template..

simply flash right after ROM

cu, n
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Starfox:
Hey ACL was the Wifi init fix patch ever implemented into omgb kernel?

-- Starfox
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
This is my last release of OMGB. I wish i had more time, but it seems like things are only going to get more hectic for me.

I might pull an all nighter every now and then. Who knows i might release ics or jelly bean.. hahah

;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
I wish you the best my friend.

Thank you very much for your great work, for giving us this great build. You're a big part of making nand on TP2 possible.

God bless you.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ranomez:
hi, i just flashed the rom and i must say its a great rom, probabilly the best nand rom for our devices in this moment, it just works soo smoothe and apps2sd work perfectly, just need to see how much the batterry will live in it, but i guess itl be great even on my 2 years old allmostly bricked batterry (as in it only lasted 6h in winmo in the last weeks of winmo, lol)

EDIT: will this rom support a2sd+?

EDIT2: if anyone else wants to know yeah it works, but only with fat32/fat16 partition, not ext2/3/4 unfortunately
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
Thanks dood. I'll always be remembered as the godfather of nand ..lol

Once im done travelling for work ill pop my ugly head and see whats new. :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] erick29:
Thanks to you..
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] imeicodes:
Thanks for sharing but i have problem there is not show market apps ?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
What is this, I don't even...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ranomez:
can someone tell me how to make textures in some games show up (like in neocore, no sd gingerbread build could show them, but if i replaced the libs witht he ones on froyo they showed up, my question is if i can do that witht he libs from an sd build to this nand build, cause its just so bad not being able to play some games?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
This has been fixed a looooong time ago in GBX. I'm pretty sure it made it into here, evidently not...?

Try replacing the libs I guess... I thought it was fixed in this build a while ago as well :confused:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] imeicodes:
not show market how install manually help me thanks in advance
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
So the Market isn't showing?

Reboot.

Reinstall.

Try installing the Market manually.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] imeicodes:
I Did but still not show can u please share Market apps thanks
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] wizardknight:
http://code.google.com/p/rhodium-nand/downloads/detail?name=GAPPS.zip&can=2&q=

or

http://code.google.com/p/rhodium-nand/downloads/detail?name=min_gapps_gb.zip&can=2&q=
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
Thanks for looking into it.

I don't think there's much to do about adwhirl, I already uninstalled getjar and the other "metago app" is non other than the astro file manager. I guess I'll have to switch to another one, any suggestions?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
What's the point of getjar..? It looks like some shady version of the Market...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
Just trying it out :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] kptkill:
Is it true you must have a 2gb or smaller SD card to flash (rhod 500)? What about repartitioning the SD card to 2gb or smaller? Trying to figure out If I'm doing it wrong, or if it's my SD card.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I did it on a 8gb class 4 card. If you can flash WinMo with the card, you can flash this.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fortunz:
getjar is hardly shady, they've been around longer than android. As to why, check out the getjar gold freebies. Unlike the Amazon marketplace, devs actually get compensated for downloads there.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Interesting, never heard of it before. Thanks!!
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
I didn't see this one on the caveats list, the gallery doesn't work properly in landscape. Pictures look fine in portrait, but in landscape they do not render properly. Videos on the other hand play back nicely in both orientations.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
This is actually an issue with a lot of apps. Google Maps does the same thing - I mentioned it to ACL. If you start Gallery in landscape mode, it's fine. Switch back to portrait, and it'll be screwed again. Same with Google Maps. Whichever orientation you start in is fine, but switching orientation screws it.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
You know whats odd about that bug? It has no errors on logs. But what i think is happening is that while the app thinks its in landscape mode, we are still rendering for upright. Because if you notice everything is shifted a little.

So i wonder if this happens when using the gsensor instead of popping out the keyboard. or get it landscape first, then go open gallery.. anyone tried that ? :confused:

also dev upate.. gsm finally boots. But nothing works. :-( ..lol
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
My findings:

1. In portrait open gallery then go landscape using g sensor=bug

2. In portrait open gallery then go landscape using keyboard=bug

3. In portrait go landscape (with gsensor or keyboard) in app menu then open gallery=success... but... if I then go portrait=BUG :(
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] milda25:
It's cool one-liner :D But it isn't good message for me. I'm on GSM. I believe that GSM NAND will be working. Keep up your hard work, ACL.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
So you confirmed my theory. The rotation doesnt trickle down well to the app which is probably rendering as when it was opened. THanks :cool:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
The weird part is that I don't have this problem with videos played from the gallery. If I start playback from the gallery they render properly no matter how many times I switch orientation.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] moovius:
Question

I just read through the OP and followed as much commentary on this as possible, but I'm still unsure on the following:

1. If I install NAND OMGB, will that overwrite my windows mobile 6.5 install? This will displace the phones OS?

2. Or does this run off the microsd card like FRX07.1?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
It will displace/replace/wipe WinMo. The only thing that remains is the bootloader to install NBH's from. The SD card is only required to install the stuff initially, then you can remove the SD once booted into OMGB.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] moovius:
Ahh. Thank you for enlightening me.

Is there a video of it running on a touch pro 2 somewhere on Youtube?
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] [ACL]:
actually i made a few but i think vzihome made some showing some of his personal changes.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2/147936-new-game-videos-acl-ombg-nand-updated-11-21-11-a.html

I guess soon a how-to video is in order.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] argenisaz:
Yesterday I had a rough day with this build.

I was out of town and the other city that I was visiting has very spoty 3G service. If 3G signal was low the phone would go to 1x, but when it tried to go back to 3G it froze. I rebooted and it froze again in less than 15 minutes. I went at it a 3d time with the same results.

Workaround: disabled background syncing, disabled mobile data and set my network type to CDMA w/o EVDO. That kept my phone running for the rest of the day without problems.

I'm back home again, set everything as it was before the trip and 3G is working fine, no lockups.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
The data connection moving from 3g/1x (low service areas) have always been a problem for the RIL. They've gotten better since hyc's work, but he doesn't use CDMA - there's probably still some problems here. Best thing to do if you're know you're going to be in a low service area is disable the data cxn (won't do you any good anyways) or completely disable the cell radio.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
lol, derp. I assumed he was flashing gapps...(Those pesky directions :rolleyes:) Thanks.

FYI, by "install Market manually" I meant side-load an APK. No biggie, I didn't think you'd miss gapps...
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] wizardknight:
Eh, trying to figure out what they wanted was made somewhat difficult by a unique formation of the English language. ;)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
I was on the right track... just didn't think someone would completely skip the gapps step. Derp.

My support skills are getting rusty :p
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] wizardknight:
Well to be honest we don't know that is what the problem was, so don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff. :eek:
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ranomez:
Well i dont actually know, didnt test neocore, but in 2 games that didnt work on a gingerbread rom i used on my sd till i replaced libs also dont work on this on, but most games that didnt work on that rom till i replaced the libs did work on this one, so im not really sure, maybe i downloaded different versions of the 2 games, or different versions of the others, lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Gaming on the TP2 is not a pleasant experience. Buy a tablet or a new phone if you want to game... Seriously.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ranomez:
Well actually i have a tab, but this rom seems to be preety pleasant for playing games, i meant nfs shift works flawless, so does sims 3, so does assassins creed hd, and now downloading eternal legacy and dungeon hunter 2, i installed the versions from the htc desire for all the games and till now they seem to work so i think those 2 will also work, and i think the others also.......i dont really wanna buy a new phone yet, caue i have my tab, and im satisfyed by this one actually, but i also aint gonna buy games on the account i use on the phone, cause it isnt actually an android phone........but that doesent aply for the tab also....
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
Wow.

Just use the tab for games.

NFS Shift, flawless? lol.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] Ranomez:
well i use the tab for games, but cant carry it everyday at school with me, thats why i want the games on the phone.....and if id take the tab with me at school everyday itd surely get stolen, some people even want to steal my phone, also the tab also has only some versions of the hd games working on it so its hard on that one also to find the correct game versions for each hd game (so no one will ask, im in highschool, im 16)
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] fad25:
please I can't flash RHODIMG.nbh in my mobile . when I press power button the mobile doesn't Respond what I can do
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] arrrghhh:
This is exactly like flashing a WinMo ROM via SD. Assuming you can do that, apply the same method here.
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] imohtep:
Originally Posted by fad25

please I can't flash RHODIMG.nbh in my mobile . when I press power button the mobile doesn't Respond what I can do

No try with the red button, you must try with the suspend button on the top at the phone good luck..!! :D, works in this way for me in my R500
[Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development] schlei:
hi can i add different language to the rom....?

i want a german language .

thx