yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Well said, dank. I agree, no one should just be snappy with the followers, but also, don't expect everyone to fall at your feet and worship you for something like that either. Too many people expect too much from others, whether as a dev you expect everyone to have no complaints and take your stuff as is, no questions asked; or you're a "customer" expecting everything to be working and fly off the handle when it's not. Some people need to just chill out. I've seen too many devs leave this forum because of ungrateful people.

That said, I'm totally stoked that we have a functioning build of ICS before the phone who's software its based on is out. I think we have some incredibly smart people working on this. However, I wouldn't expect a fully functioning build any time soon, at least not until certain things get updated.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] manwiththedroid:
I had to log in to put MY 2 cents in. Seriously? These developers crank out code in a matter of weeks and you ***** and complain about the naming scheme of their roms? It's greedy unintelligent comments like that that make developers snappy with followers. You would be frustrated too if your work was criticized by people unqualified to do so. Unless you have a legitimate discussion, feel free to flash your phone back to stock and stop coming here. These developers work hard and the last thing they need is some unknown who's knowledge of android extents only as far as flashing ROMs criticizing something so stupid as whether or not is should be called a beta. Lots of betas are feature incomplete. Get over it and stop trolling.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Whoah bro. A little attacking.... He totally wasn't trying to troll. He's actually contributed in other threads on other forums, but it appears as though you wouldn't know that. Dank is a great guy, and meant no disrespect or ungratefulness by any of what he said. Everyone has a right to their opinions, he's stated his and you've stated yours. I have almost left XDA a couple of times due to the fact that there are too many people who just jump all over someone for saying something they don't agree with, and it's gotta stop. I don't agree with what everyone says, but come on! It's their opinion and as long as their not bashing anyone, it's ok.

Just my $.02
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dnoyeb:
this has nothing to do with the rom that this thread is about. how about we move back towards discussing this build.

rm, got anything new in the pipeline for us to try out?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
Stop being butt hurt. Everyone has an opion on everything. Whats the point of an open discussion if pwoe get flamed for expressing their opinion
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
EXACTLY!!!!! Thank you!! OPEN FREAKING FORUM! People need to get over themselves if they're gonna constantly bash people for having an opinion not lining up with their own.

Now, to get back on subject; I'm excited to see what RM has next for us.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] timmay2t:
looks like they got the Hardware Acceleration working fully on an HD2, not sure if it incorporates to us at all.

http://androidspin.com/2011/11/30/hardware-acceleration-fixed-for-hd2-ice-cream-sandwich-rom/
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] jbarcus81:
Hmm.. I wonder.. I think there have been some ports from HD2's source so maybe!! We can only hope, and wait for the dev's to reply.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
The only one sounding unintelligent is you, I am not trolling nor did I attack anyone, I merely stated my opinion in a respectful manner. You come off with your raging and whining as an immature child and that is the type of dialect that nobody takes seriously.

I was not "*****ing and complaining" in any manner about the term "beta" being used, I was merely pointing out that I myself do not feel that a rom should be considered "beta" when there are applications that DO NOT work at all. Betas are predominantly when developers are ready to start testing for a stable build, if full applications do not work then it is not ready to be considered for a stable build. These are not just random bugs that people can work without, the camera function is a big deal, and without the gallery working you cannot view any screenshots, downloaded pictures/videos or even view a picture if the camera did work. EGL is another BIG deal, without 100% hardware acceleration the rom is choppy and slow. How would you like it if HTC released their ICS build and said "oops the camera fc's, we will get to fixing that in a future update" or "sorry the phone is laggy even though ICS is known for it's hardware acceleration, we will get that working for you whenever qualicomm gives us some updated ICS drivers", and then when you stated your opinion or just pointed out what you noticed was not properly working (just to help, i might add) you were talked to in a rude disrespectful manner by HTC?

It's one thing for people to use the rom and ***** that it's not working, it's another for people to politely point out the things that aren't working in hopes of helping to improve the rom. When that happens and the developer jumps down throats it is NOT right.

If anyone should leave xda it's narrowminded people like you that apparently just look for anything they dislike posted as an excuse to rage out.

Again, since you obviously didn't see me say it twice in my last post, To all the developers and anyone else that contributed to these ICS roms, BIG BIG BIG Thanks, it's great that you take time out of your days to try and get ICS working for us all. Especially since you are not getting paid for it.

That is all, sorry everyone else for steering the thread in the wrong direction again. I just don't appreciate angry people going off the deep end because they missenterprited my post that was not directed to them in the first place. :D

P.S. manwithadroid, i have two degrees in computer science and one in network security, your comment about the extent of my knowlege was unjustified and you know nothing about me to make that deduction. I may not create roms but I have made quite alot of software for PC's. Just because I don't have extensive knowlege of how to build a rom does not mean I don't know what these developers are talking about. ;)

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Isn't the HD2 a winmo phone? If not then hopefully since it's an HTC product we can use the same drivers or drivers based on the HD2 to get the INC2's EGL working right?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
HD2 was a WinMo device yes, but it could run Android. I'm hoping to see some drivers ported for us
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NickAVV:
The HD2 has a AMD z430 and the Inc2 has an Adreno 205. I don't feel like the drivers for those will overlap very much, although I'm speaking with no experience, and would love to be corrected.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
I think you're right, sadly we might be stuck for awhile until updated drivers are released :(

The Winmo7 HTC Titan has an andreno 205 in it though, so be on the lookout for anyone with a ICS rom with working EGL on that lol.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Grouper:
The HD2 has an Adreno 200 (AMD z430), so I seriously doubt they have hardware acceleration working as that's what the Nexus S has. They just have some hack to make EGL software acceleration work faster. Maybe the devs should take a look over at what the Nexus S and HD2 devs are doing for video?

I've been working on a spreadsheet so we can see who is going to get drivers when, and what phones have drivers available now. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsSMfIzztSGDdHhMaTB3U1JiQ1Q1QVVVNzhJa3lLMFE#gid=0
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
I was under the impression that the Adreno 200 does not have hardware acceleration capabilities, I heard that was only available with the release of the 205.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] platodd:
Thanks I'll look forward to that post. I tried facebook mobile it works but doesn't sync with my contacts. Maybe another apk will cause facebook to load. I have nothing working with Twitter.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] :
We do have hardware acceleration working on the Incredible (Original) with the Adreno 200. As of today. It's still a little slow, but not near as bad as it was.

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10439-rompure-ice-cream-sandwichomx20111-30/

Sent from my ADR6300
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] seejoshplay:
I think that this rom, even in it's current beta form, is a slice of fried gold. I am SO excited for this to develop.

I really can't wait to donate and run this. :D
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
This rom is still in alpha ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradsinram:
i think he was talking about the one on rootzwiki
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] rm2011:
If you guys haven't been following git, we have a new build coming shortly. We made several changes. And to us, it seems noticeably faster.!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dnoyeb:
has it been rebased over to the CM build?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thatguych4rlie:
Yes, you can expect a new release in the next hour or so (edit: it will be slightly longer than that. we've had some unexpected problems. rom is working but we have to make some changes before release.). I'm finishing committing our code to github and testing the rom.

Guys please remember to keep things friendly and as always continue to post your opinions, suggestions, and logcats! We are doing our best to stay in communication with everyone.

Side note. EGL will not be fully functional until we get access to new drivers from the oem.

Edit:

Yes, it has.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PacerguyDon:
Thanks for keeping us up to date on the progress and the updates! It's greatly appreciated!

Bummer on the Egl, but really, just getting to play around with the builds has been cool. I've been using Ics for my DD for the past three days now. So any improvement in speed is great to me :)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Zax_Was_Here:
I havent posted in this thread yet, but i have been playing around with your updates every time it comes out. The instability and the constant updates are honestly exciting to me. I get bored when something is too stable xD.

Thank you for the work you all are putting into this phone, it definitely makes owning an android device more enjoyable.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] devinhfox:
Loaded from the git, noticed no gapps.

Am i doing this right? I guess i could use gapps from protekk.?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Konner920:
whats the git.. o-o.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] daftlush:
Anyone know the link for their git?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] silentjoker:
They will no longer include gapps. Was talked about pages ago but short version technically its against a license or terms somewhere...
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thatguych4rlie:
New Release : NTSH-ICS ALPHA v3.0.1

NothingToSeeHere-ICS Alpha v3.0.1 Release!

Release Notes

This is still an alpha as not all the basic functions work yet and EGL will not be perfectly smooth until new drivers are released. We have based our v3.0 on Protekk's beta1 CM9 build (which was released last night) because it offers so many fixes. (Yes, we all love CM9 <3). FULL CREDIT GOES TO PROTEKK for his amazing work and many thanks to him for sharing his source. We are working to build our own from CM9 source but it may be a while yet. We have improved the user interface (UI) speeds system-wide and have added small tweaks which we hope will improve ICS on the Incredible 2. Full credit goes to protekk, sbrissen, omj, aeroevan, touchpro, and many others who have worked hard to bring us some huge improvements.

Oh, and in-case you haven't noticed: We decided to call our ROM "NothingToSeeHere ICS". (:

What is working:

SD Card

Radio

3G

WiFi

EGL (improved over protekk's beta1!)

Audio

Sensors

New & Improved NTSH/ICS Boot-Animation

What is not working:

USB Mounting

Live Wallpapers

Headphones

Camera

Likely some other things too.

Downloads

NTSH-ICS_ALPHA_v3.0.1 (REQUIRED)

https://github.com/downloads/charliemathews/NTSH-ICS/NTSH-ICS_ALPHA_v3.0.1.zip

Google Apps PLUS for NTSH-ICS (RECOMMENDED)

Includes: AdFree, Google+, Facebook, Superuser, ROM Manager, Terminal Emulator, and all basic google apps such as market and talk.

https://github.com/downloads/charliemathews/NTSH-ICS/GAppsPLUS_for_NTSH-ICS.zip

Google Apps BASIC

Includes: the basics, duh. (: things you need like android market.

https://github.com/downloads/charliemathews/NTSH-ICS/GAppsOnly_v20111125-2.zip

Other Helpful Stuff

If you need help, have questions, or just want to tell us how awesome ICS is, post here on XDA or contact me on twitter.

twitter.com/thatguych4rlie

NTSH-ICS Github:

https://github.com/charliemathews/NTSH-ICS/
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] romma1:
Guys, wish I knew enough to help out... But I am cheerleading!! Rah Rah cis boom Rah!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
Ohhhh ok well I have faith in you as well I was curious :-)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Konner920:
I really want to help out, but I have no idea where to start, as I have no experience in android development, nor do i know much about anything. But I've really wanted to be an android dev since my first android phone. e-e
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
Is the op up to date with whats working in the one you are preparing to release? Also I keep seeing different things...have you updated yours to be source based? Or sdk?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ogrosticlops:
This should still be SDK, as a few replies ago he stated that they don't quite have the source build booting as of yet.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] knipp21:
Ok thanks. That's what I was following too, just making sure
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] touchpro247:
The op is up to date w/ what works, except for you can now see what's on your sdcard. When you use apps like Astro, file manager, ect...

The rom on the git is a port from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1338636
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Is it pre rooted?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] touchpro247:
Yes, it is.

Thinking about porting this:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/9621-romaospandroid-401itl41d-pre-bugless-beast/
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Omg please do so!!! I've heard a ton about the original bugless beast from a guy who made his own CM7 w/ kernel to match. He's my girlfriends brother lol. So taking the concept of BB and adding ICS is amazing.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] rm2011:
OP updated with what works/doesnt. Just remember guys.. we still have the touchscreen issues.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] cvo515:
Yes please!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradsinram:
how can we enable usb debugging or any thing else if we cant get past setup wizard?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] ogrosticlops:
You can't bypass it with the normal "tap 4 corners" method?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] rm2011:
A new build we be up pretty soon. you shouldn't be seeing setup wizard.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradsinram:
well i used boot manager and flashed it like 20 min ago, how am i supposed to get back to cm7, i realize that i need to change the boot.img , is the only way i can do it through fastboot? because i need to get back to cm7 or can i just push the new system files through adb
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] RRF12:
Boot into recovery an use bootmanager update zip of you're phone rom.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] rm2011:
bypass: http://pocketnow.com/how-to/android-quick-tip-how-to-bypass-touch-the-android-to-begin-video

boot to recovery, choose flash zip, go to bootmanager folder, choose phone rom, and flash that zip. reboot. should be back to CM
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bradsinram:
thanks lol I've got it all figured out now though
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] rm2011:
UPDATE: Radio now working
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] live2die:
love you guys
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
Flashing on the horrid drive to work ;)
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dnoyeb:
whats weird with the headphones part is how it'll stop playing the music if you remove the headphones. So it knows they're there, just plays over the speaker instead... argh.. gotta have my music at the gym ;)

anyways, keep up the great work guys, love seeing people build off each other. offers up quick advancements.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
This build definitely seems more responsive. Facebook works now but its mostly hit or miss, but that is still better than nothing. Gmusic doesnt work either.

I read on rootz (i forget who posted this info...sorry, but thanks!) to go to sys settings > dev ops and turn off the animations. It really helps with responsiveness with the screen. You can also check force gpu and Dont keep activities. Seems to work for me anyway.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] loki154:
I was under the impression that the nexus S had the power vr sgx 540 gpu
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Linch89:
It may be me, but it seems like the 3g is slower than the build on rootz. It took about 15 min to download Titanium backup
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bracketslash:
Very nice ROM as of right now. Much smoother than previous versions. If it had a working camera, I'd shout through the hills telling people to get it. It's my daily driver as of the latest release.

I know it's probably too much to ask right now, but would it be possible to make the power widget customizable? Or add quick settings to the notification list?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] times_infinity:
it does. i think he means nexus one.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] rm2011:
once we get everything functioning properly, we will start adding tweaks like that. I believe that is what most people would prefer, anyways.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] romma1:
This version is pretty good... I am going to start Facebooking HTC to ask them to release Drivers for the DINC 2 ICS!!!!

Here it is:

http://www.facebook.com/HTC
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] rm2011:
If anyone wants to try mms, it should be working now.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PacerguyDon:
Great work guys!! The latest update is great! They just keep getting better all the time :)

Going on to the fourth day now as my DD :D

Thanks again to all involved!!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] NickAVV:
I would honestly prefer a completely working untweaked version. I just want Ice Cream Sandwich the way Google made it, that's why I'm more interested in this ROM than, say, CM9. So yeah, keep up the good work.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PacerguyDon:
Just had two pictures arrive, they both opened just fine, but I lost them to the gallery :( I was using the older 3d gallery, so I think I'll go back to that version. It works. I look forward to the new gallery though.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PharmCAT:
Isn't CM just AOSP with ADWLauncher on top? :p
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] dpdoughty:
By far the best release yet. I can almost use it as a DD. A couple notable issues, I think some have been mentioned -

1. Ive had some random reboots. Most notably when entering market I received the EULA (for a 2nd time since boot) after selecting accept it showed me the about screen and then rebooted. However it was fairly quick :)

1. Gallery shows black pictures but when sliding or holding my finger on the screen the images appear - most likely has to do with the EGL.

2. GMusic force closes almost instantly. I have removed and reinstalled from market with the same results.

3. A little off-topic however mission critical issue I have is with Enhanced Email. The app claims to be fully ICS compatible and has worked on earlier builds - mainly anything prior to 2.4.3 build. As of now I receiving FC almost immediately after running through setup. I know this isnt a stock ICS app so I understand it is a low priority, possibly a much larger Exchange service issue that needs to be looked into though.

Other then that - this is an awesome ROM and I greatly appreciate all the hard work you guys have put into it. Ive been doing some reverse engineering on Android Apps and source lately just to get a feel for the code and environment variables. I have quickly come to find how hard it can be to understand others code and decipher how it relates to the goal at hand. Good luck moving forward and you can expect donations from me in the future to help out.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] times_infinity:
no. not at all.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] times_infinity:
we need EGL drivers from Qualcomm. not HTC
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] HypostaticOnion:
Right, it has tons of tweaks and stuff added. Yes its AOSP with adw on it, but much more than that.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] romma1:
Ahhm your right!! Here it is:

http://www.facebook.com/qualcomm?sk=wall
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bobhinkle:
flash over

Testing right now as a flash over from RC3d. upgraded my apps but has an issue with live wallpaper crashing. I can get the menu loaded up. Facebook is working just fine. things are running a little slow but cant complain being a flashover

**Decided to just do a clear, things just didn't run very good. Not blaming anyone but thought i would test it out**
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thatguych4rlie:
The GUI/EGL is slow because we don't have updated qualcomm drivers yet.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] bobhinkle:
I understand this. Just seemed to have alot of issues but did successfully update the apps i had. It seemed as though the live wall paper kept force closing causing a hang up. after wiping of course the phone ran better but still have live wallpaper issues on first boot.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] devinhfox:
Is there an expectation that Qualcomm will even issue updated drivers?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] PalmerCurling:
They will when HTC officially releases Dinc2 ICS source.

Sorry I haven't been active in the thread; i dont log into any forums often. I've been working with devs involved on both builds for a while now, so if you have any questions on differences or tips and tricks please feel free to contact me.

This is easily the most stable build I have seen from either build team; there are issues to be had and expected with the builds for a number of reasons.

1)ICS isn't widely available yet by OEMs, so app devs have not gotten their apps to support the new framework (accounts for missing apps from market)

~we are working on spoofing some build.prop values to bring them back

2)New framework/build means some features are present that were not/no longer present (accounts for facebook not working)

~attempting on spoofing some values to stabilze facebook;standard twitter app works when installed from backup, same for tweetdeck and variants

Rmcccoy has been messing with the build.prop for solving the GMusic force close issue.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] KelchM:
Yes, they will be delivering updated drivers.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thatguych4rlie:
Only possibly. Don't hold your breath!

Edit. Qualcomm replied on their facebook page:

"We don't provide s/w drivers, so you would need to check with the carrier or OEM"
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] scsione889:
I just came here to post that haha. Looks like we need to hound HTC for the drivers.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] devinhfox:
Yikes! I didn't see whether the Inc2 was on the list for devices on the list for htc to update to ics.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] thatguych4rlie:
It's not.

"The message you have entered is too short."
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] romma1:
http://www.facebook.com/HTC Rally at the HTC Facebook page!
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] devinhfox:
Depressed

:'(
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] franklin270h:
It'll be later if they do. If it is, it'll be the tbolt

I'm less optimistic about sense 4.0 because 3.5 is slow as crap on these phones compared to 2.1
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Nephilim:
I disagree, I am more optimistic about sense 4.0 because it will be built on ICS which means it will be hardware accelerated, that will guarantee a faster and smoother sense experience compared to older versions.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] franklin270h:
Maybe. Sense has semi hardware acceleration itself, hence why its smoother than aosp gingerbread.

I'm just leaning toward HTC continuing its current trend of tying everything into proprietary bs. Ics offering it or not, I don't know that HTC will utilize it