yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus 2x] xp99:
It's amazing the people on here. You'd think LG had taken your first born.

Anyone whose done programming or managed programmers, will know that you can't continue to work on something for an endless amount of time. Programming is all about problem solving and one of the best ways to problem solve is to take time off. Some of the best ideas were thought of in software because the programmer who came up with it had taken a break from work.

Now if you're not a programmer and have no idea what is involved in what they do, then you can just shut it.

ICS is coming, we all know that. Sending support requests asking when it will come out doesn't do anything. It won't make it come out any faster. To quote John Carmack, "it'll be done when it's done".

Now stop wasting everyone's time and just wait for the announcement. Enjoy life instead of venting on the internet where no one really cares.
[LG Optimus 2x] ssuds:
Yeah, definitely. Not trying to defend LG, but try thinking of it as a CM release with no ETAs. Pretend that they never gave out an eta, because they don't live up to their ETAs anyway. We'll get it when we get it.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
Oh come on, guys. Get real. A company doesn't deliver to paying customers for nearly a year (see this link from November 2011: http://www.gsmarena.com/saga_over_lg_optimus_2x_will_get_ics_update_after_all-news-3342.php) - if that's not a reason to be hell of annoyed and voice this in a dedicated tech forum covering exactly this topic ... what is?

This pseudo-reasonable blabla about calming down, often mixed with the claim that LG did nothing wrong and people are childish is a definite nuisance. LG demonstrates shocking incompetence ... or an unwillingness to care for their sold devices and thus for their customers.

This is NOT the CM team, a group of unpaid enthusiasts who DO deliver fast and in good quality and deserve praise. This is a large corporation that took our money, made false promises and fails to deliver even the smallest bit of actual service.
[LG Optimus 2x] xp99:
And for those who are interested:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuseok

You could call it their thanksgiving.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
And what does that have to do with anything?
[LG Optimus 2x] xp99:
If you read that news release, there was no ETA mentioned.
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
that news is old. they make another announcement with eta Q2/Q3(i refer for all Optimus 2011):p
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
Anything to say about what I actually wrote?
[LG Optimus 2x] ssuds:
I completely agree with you. It's completely unfair for a company like LG to make promises like these and not keep them. I was just saying that at this point there is nothing we can really do, and at this point clogging the thread with "waah waah waah LG yu no release ics" will do us no good, and all we can really do is wait... I think I chose the wrong post to reply to, because we ARE entitled to an ICS update from them.
[LG Optimus 2x] KoRRo89:
I totally agree with you, and if we are wrong and the continuos requests will make it come out faster it will come out bugged. i prefer a slow but stable update than a fast and buggy one. and please stop comparing lg to samsung, samsung sells lots more phones, so they have lots of money to spend for sw updates, and they are also slow for many phones, and many other aren't updated at all...
[LG Optimus 2x] xpr0nx:
best thing to do: Never buy an LG again! This is the only way we can change their behaviour.
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
LG isn't rushing anything and it isn't because they don't have the resources to and do it right, it's arrogance and incompetence.
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
coupled by the fact that they keep releasing new devices, and then giving the end of life treatment
[LG Optimus 2x] ssuds:
Yeah, you would think they would learn not do do that after having the worlds first dual core phone which is still stuck on a somewhat stable gingerbread.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
Yes, that. I have seen it with Motorola before. There are executives with old-fashioned ideas from times when a phone was a phone, not a smartphone - and apparently not enough ressources. All in all it's arrogance, ignorance or corporate idiocy.
[LG Optimus 2x] defcomg:
to make matters even worse the new devices they are releasing are old devices in a new shell just a bigger screen ie L9 Specs are identical to SU760 SU870 P920 P940 P720. the L9 Comes with ICS but no official ics for the other devices does that mean L9 will get JB therefore the other like devices would also get the update. we need to step out this twilight zone that is lg
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
I've been trying to sell my P990 for a few weeks now... even at $150 CAD no one wants to buy it. If I can sell it I'll immediately buy a preowned Galaxy S2 (S3 is too big) or HTC One S.

honestly, even though this phone technically performs better than my HTC Desire Z (especially the camera), I feel more satisfied with the DZ because the DZ wasn't marketed as a phone where I could expect to go beyond Gingerbread, whereas the O2X was marketed as something that could blow away ICS.
[LG Optimus 2x] defcomg:
you try http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476 maybe you can get a swap

O2x for a Crappier Specd device that has fully FUNC CM10 then trade that + some cash for S2
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
well somebody have the source for the release date in October?!
[LG Optimus 2x] daas88:
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/first-world-problems
[LG Optimus 2x] xp99:
That's your opinion, to which you have no evidence to back it up. If it were true, we wouldn't even see test versions of ics for the su660. Perhaps you are subscribed to the wrong thread.

Software gets delayed all the time, get use to it.

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No eta's until it's done. How's that?
[LG Optimus 2x] aldyu:
So they're CM now?
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
Yeah. This is not a WhiteWhine. xp99 wishes it was, fpr whatever reason, but it's not.
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
The evidence to back up my opinion is self-evident. That's reality.
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
looks like the lg people wont be in office until the 4th of october

September - 29	Saturday Mid-Autumn Festival - Day 1

September - 30	Sunday	Mid-Autumn Festival - Day 2

October - 01	Monday	Mid-Autumn Festival - Day 3

October - 03	Wednesday	National Foundation Day
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
that's a Chinese occasion (mid autumn), not a Korean one. They better have some news tomorrow or else...
[LG Optimus 2x] dasklney:
That is traditional culture in most Asia countries, not only China or Korea :D We have mid autumn festival in Viet Nam too :good:
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
whoa, didn't know that, thanks for the heads-up. Ironically, I'm Asian myself (Singapore-born Chinese) O_O shame on me for not knowing.

Hey that reminds me, LG Singapore was the one promising the update after LG Canada said no...
[LG Optimus 2x] xp99:
Or else what? Come on, tell the internet what you're gonna do. And I know it's being celebrated in Korea because I was told that today by someone who I know in Korea.

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In other words, you're either lazy or don't want to admit when you're wrong.
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
... or else I'm going Postal and launching a Postal dude style attack on LG! j/k

Yeah forgive my ignorance, I didn't know other Asians also celebrated the mid autumn festival. Probably because among the Asian communities in North America, only the Chinese really take it seriously while the Koreans and Vietnamese seem largely indifferent.

I won't boycott LG entirely (their LCD monitors and their TVs and their household appliances are fine) but I'm definitely never getting another smartphone from them again. Granted, Android is gonna be like this no matter who I go to, but better to have an honest "we're not bringing ICS to this, end of story" than to have broken promises.
[LG Optimus 2x] scalle288:
No LG, gingerbread is not the latest version.
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
:D

By LG is latest...By Google, not latest...you must have jb:eek:

Inviato con Lg P920 powered by SPEEDYrom 3Dmax v.2.0
[LG Optimus 2x] mas2112:
Comparing Jon Carmack to LG developers is insulting to Carmack. Carmack was inventing new technology, pushing the envelope. LG isn't doing anything complicated or cutting edge. They're just implementing normal things.

My feeling is that LG management kept pushing for new features without enough developers. It's very typical for management to underestimate software effort. This resulted in a lot of new features with tons of bugs. They also probably don't have very good code quality control either. And they probably don't have very good developers either. I hope they use source control at least :)

It's clear to me their hardware department is pretty good. Their software department is probably a huge mess.
[LG Optimus 2x] wapz:
7 pages per day, this thread, without any notable news. Don't you people have anything to do?
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
I don't care if Asians have a great holliday now. In the real world when you promise something, you have to try to keep it. Even if there might be christmas easter or helloween. This must be a major setback if LG let anyone home during this. (Ah, forget it)

I don't think LG will produce hig-end phones for long.

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No?
[LG Optimus 2x] jabooka:
Please, don't...FFS...DON'T put our beloved CM crew and LG into same basket. CM is the root reason (and, of course, all of our other developers that gave us so many wonderful ROMs) why many of us haven't smashed/torched/abandoned our O2x...and because many of us don't have enough $$$ to get sth better :rolleyes:

As it has been mentioned here numerous times before, all we really can is wait, wait, wait...and then...wait some more. And get that media campaign rolling over android/smartphones sites :cowboy:
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
wake-up dude.;)
[LG Optimus 2x] MetaIIica:
LG has released ICS for P990 today!!

oh holy *****, its was only a dream -.-
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
nah it isnt 7 pages per day, it just reached its peak on 30th September 2012, when a crazy surge of interest came to this topic
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
You troll... I allmost drowned my computer with coffey...
[LG Optimus 2x] anjo88:
Will be this month??Any real and official news??? hum we just have to wait and see!
[LG Optimus 2x] TheBlackCat:
We have just to PRAY. :rolleyes:
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
:D:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

everything ok?
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
Not sure... cleaning my laptop keyboard right now
[LG Optimus 2x] -Zeppelin-:
Nothing here

http://www.lgmobile.co.kr/lgmobile/front/download/retrieveDownloadMain.dev

sent from my mobile device
[LG Optimus 2x] MetaIIica:
What do you do when LG release ICS in real?? You need Heart-Tablets so you keep cool :D
[LG Optimus 2x] kekks:
I wish I could go back 9 months & changed the decision of buying 2x... What a pitty to my 2x coz of lg.

LG has done it again. You lost your valued customers.... No more lg phones...
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
That exactly seems to be the point. Plus some issues with the Tegra2, given that Motorola also cancelled the update for Tegra2 devices.
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
Probably :)
[LG Optimus 2x] elefas:
We will start whinning for JB !!! :D
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
No, by that time even KLP is old (me to i think)
[LG Optimus 2x] rockyy:
well we all learned something for life.. NEVER BUY A LG again... the ICS lie is a reason that my tv is from phillips and not from LG.. i don't want to have a lg tv with bugged software too :/ and i also told a friend not to buy the lg 4x...
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
Lol I read sone guys mad at people who complains about no update and saying a lot of bull**** comparing it to cm.. Well guess what.. Cm its doing a job for free and so you can not ask for ETA Wich I rather to PAY but being informed about the progress or at least have clues of what's wrong and how much time you need to solve.. I'm a developer myself (not android developer) and when ever I have issues I know what to do or where to look to solve the issue and how much time does it takes to solve.. In my company (and every other serious compsny) I got deadlines and doesn't matter what I got to solve issues in time or before...

WE are paying LG to get something not like cm team and LG promised and didn't took their word back so far that they would release a product by Q3.. That makes them a joke company and no its not done when it's done.. To hell with it.. We paid for the damn things millions of dollars if you add the money from all the o2x/g2x/su660 owners...

They ain't developing ****.. The hard work its made by Google and Google never gets late when delivering an update at the exact date they give or earlier... LG only gotta change some stupid codes to make the kernel works properly and the stupid worthless custom UI that most people just get rid of and use pure Google experience AOSP roms...

So a year for that stuff just tells me and everyone LG its just bullcrap at software development and they only care about selling the new stuff that's it..

For those who said no more lg just now because a broken promise.. Many others like me took that position months ago.. I already own 2 notes 1 and waiting for samsung to release note 2 here in my country.. I was just keeping the o2x as a learning platform and I got some knowledge know and I won't go any further with this device in development terms.. And I won't scam anyone trying to sell it so I guess it will just become a dust collector..

Cheers

Enviado desde mi GT-N7000 usando Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 2x] aze2:
Nothing new from LG since they say ICS will be release in Q3. Q3 is ended. Nothing.

ICS for SU660 is in "public" test (leak), if they release it, source code have to follow and ICS for P990 can be a "hardware decode" reality.

Now, like we know (Android, except gphone owner, know that), wait.... and probably see..... for a new smarphone.

ps: like some people, I prefer ICS for Optimus 2X only because I've no money to bought a new phone (Optimus G? HTC One X5?)...

if google made 5 gphone (last rumor), probably 5 category of price... And :) the last Android Version :P
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

:mad: Optimus G? OPTIMUS G??? Have you not learned anything? ? ?:mad:

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
he put a "?" there which meant he was skeptical of making that choice
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
It's not a choice... It's more like suicide
[LG Optimus 2x] AlkaliX:
It' more like masochism... ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
It's surprising, isn't it?

But then there are people who still defend LG's stupid update policy in this thread. Amazing.
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
just see the people buying optimus 4X with boatloader locked...
[LG Optimus 2x] sturmtruppler:
I would buy optimus G, but only if it will be the next Nexus device... My next phone is a Nexus, that's for sure.

Although I'm quite happy with my 2x now, thanks to the great community and support here!
[LG Optimus 2x] karthik1der:
" just see the people buying optimus 4X with boatloader locked...

"

yeah m sure that number is not great.. its definitely lesser than more open one x and s3..and that's why they came out with the Optimus g so soon.. if this doesn't do well then lg mobiles division is f@cked
[LG Optimus 2x] siibel:
LG Singapore from o3d forum

"I'd rather have them delay the rollout by 2 weeks to fix some more bugs, then to deliver ICS to us today with flaws.

But at this moment I'd like LG to confirm that they are indeed still working on ICS for the O3D and that it will be released in a timely manner.

I think that most of us would be happy to hear today that we'll get ICS in 3 weeks"
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
If they rolld out it with flaws yesterday i should have JB on my phone by now...
[LG Optimus 2x] tasker1:
ICS will come

Read the Chat i just had with LG; (dutch)

Chat Transcript

Tijdstip van de Chat: 10/1/2012 1:32:10 PM

Duur van de Chat: 00:09:13

LG Customer Service: Tasker

Gechat met: Brian

1:32 PM Brian: Goedendag, Tasker. Welkom bij LG Electronics Live Chat.

1:32 PM Brian: Goedenmiddag

1:32 PM Tasker: Hallo,

1:33 PM Tasker: Er zou uiterlijk september dit jaar een upgrade naar ICS komen voor mijn P990. Wanner kan ik die verwachten.

1:34 PM Brian: Het is niet bekend wanneer de update naar Android 4.0 voor de P990 beschikbaar is .

1:34 PM Tasker: Hoezo ? September 2012 was aangekondigd.

1:35 PM Brian: Hier is helemaal niets over bekend . Er is nooit via onze website bekend gemaakt dat ICS vanaf september 2012 beschikbaar zal zijn

1:37 PM Tasker: LG Mobile heeft dat via hun oficiele facebookpagina bekend gemaakt

1:38 PM Brian: Het spijt me u geen andere mededeling te kunnen doen . Het is niet bekend wanneer de update naar android 4.0 beschikbaar zal zijn.

1:38 PM Brian: Ik kan u hierover verder niets meededelen.

1:39 PM Tasker: Dus hij komt wel zoals ik nu lees, u weet alleen nog niet wanneer.

1:39 PM Brian: Het komt wel , maar de datum is onbekend.

1:40 PM Tasker: O.k. dank je wel

1:41 PM Brian: Graag gedaan . Ik wens u nog een fijne dag .
[LG Optimus 2x] Thegn:
I do want ICS to be bugfree, too. But they have promised ICS for our phones a long time now. They broke their first promise to deliver it this spring, and now they have broken their second deadline. I just don't believe in LG.s phone division anymore and the dates they have provided/or will eventually provide in the future.

If they say "We will give you ICS in three weeks", it won't make me any more happy, just more disappointed over one more delay, added to the previous delays.

LG makes technically great phones (good hardware, pretty good quality). But they have to realize that customer support does matter. That good drivers and software does matter. And last, but not least. Promises made to the buyers of their phones, does matter.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
The answer from the official complaints department: We are aware of the problem, but unable to cope with it. So no information on the update.

Not sure if it's appropriate to post complete eMail correspondence on an Internet forum.

But it's pretty obvious LG is not competent in the smartphone market.
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Google translate..... Time of the Chat: 1/10/2012 1:32:10

PMDuur the Chat: 00:09:13 LG Customer

Service: Task Herberge Chat with: Brian1:

32 PM Brian: Hello, Tasker. Welkombij LG

Electronics Live Chat.1: 32 PM Brian:

Goedenmiddag1: 32 PM Tasker: Hello,

1:33 PM Tasker: There should look

septemberdit year upgrade to ICS come

for my P990. Wanner can I verwachten.1:

34 PM Brian: It is not known wanneerde

update to Android 4.0 for the

P990beschikbaar is .1:34 PM Tasker: Why?

September 2012was aangekondigd.1: 35

PM Brian: There is nothing known about

it. There is never our website announced

that ICS will be available from

september2012 it1: 37 PM Tasker: LG

Mobile has that viahun approved company

Motor facebook page bekendgemaakt1: 38

PM Brian: I'm sorry you have no other

communication can do. It is not known

when the update will be available to

android4.0 zijn.1: 38 PM Brian: I can

provide you with anything else

meededelen.1: 39 PM Tasker: So he'll be

like iknu read, you just do not know

wanneer.1: 39 PM Brian: It is, but the

Date is onbekend.1: 40 PM Tasker: Ok

thank you wel1: 41 PM Brian: You're

welcome. I wish UNOG a nice day.
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
They are LG employees for sure.
[LG Optimus 2x] Jordan~Kurniawan:
1:32 PM Brian: Hello, Tasker. Welcome to LG Electronics Live Chat.

1:32 PM Brian: Good afternoon

1:32 PM Tasker: Hello,

1:33 PM Tasker: There should be no later than September this year to upgrade to ICS come for my P990. Wanner can I expect.

1:34 PM Brian: It is not known when the update to Android 4.0 for the P990 is available.

1:34 PM Tasker: Why? September 2012 was announced.

1:35 PM Brian: There is nothing known about it. There is never our website announced that ICS will be available from September 2012

1:37 PM Tasker: LG Mobile has that through their approved company Motor facebook page announced

1:38 PM Brian: I'm sorry you have no other communication can do. It is not known when the update to Android 4.0 will be available.

1:38 PM Brian: I can provide you with nothing conveys.

1:39 PM Tasker: So he'll be like I have read, you just do not know when.

1:39 PM Brian: It is, but the date is unknown.

1:40 PM Tasker: O.K. thanks

1:41 PM Brian: You're welcome. I wish you have a nice day.

do you choose the language manually ? just use >> Detect language
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
Also, I asked LG Estonia when is ICS coming, they said that they currently have no info lol. And I also sent them an email in July asking the same question and they said Q3. I'll snap a picture of their Q3 update promise and add it to the attatchments.
[LG Optimus 2x] anjo88:
no one have info no one know's:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
I guess that LG korea wont share the information with their offices round the globe.

Maby a mail lands in their inbox saying "ICS on these devices available now..."

Lyin&Greedy
[LG Optimus 2x] frantic777:
Well, I've learned to don't buy LG ever again. Even small companies like Meizu released ICS for theirs quite old phones (M9).
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
They know that pleasing their customers will keep them...
[LG Optimus 2x] TheBlackCat:
I think they now understand that the owners of P990 will not buy their products again.
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
be sure, no another mistake ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
No, the moment my contract ends i will run down like a giggly girl to the local phoneshop and buy the latest LG phone available.

!N!O!T!
[LG Optimus 2x] sturmtruppler:
I don't think so! How many devices were sold? How many people are complaining about ICS?

I don't think they care about us!
[LG Optimus 2x] frantic777:
Anyway It's big community, if everyone will tell to his/her friends or whomever to don't buy LG because of ...(you know)... it will affect on LG's income.
[LG Optimus 2x] TheBlackCat:
I have recommended to all of my friends to stay away from LG phones.
[LG Optimus 2x] Thegn:
I just chatted with LG support. No news there. The person I wrote to were every bit as frustrated as we are. They have tried to get information from their senior staff, but gotten none. The support knows very well how disappointed we customers are, and they too does not understand why there is no official statement regarding the update.
[LG Optimus 2x] frantic777:
I believe the problem is management who wants to sell new phones rather than supporting old ones.
[LG Optimus 2x] victoram:
from all my friends, i'm the only that uses LG, and in total we are 20+ droids, i did everything to no one buy a LG phone!

so much win :victory:
[LG Optimus 2x] aze2:
The problem with LG phone is just the support...

if a version of the "Optimus G" is supported by Google, what the problem? (yes, the price $$$, bought a phone, again, again and again...)

My Optimus 2X is a good phone with lasts ROM (JB), fast and ~stable... -> THX DEVS <- thanks

Serioulsy, LG is dam ****. Yes. Like Samsung, Sony, Motorola, HTC.....

Search a forum about Android phone where nobody cry:

- about slow update (or ... no update)

- buggy soft

- crappy product

- battery problem

If you search a forum without that, search on Apple, modos clear hourly.

Windows phone... but nobody write on it...

No, the problem is not LG. Is all no Google maintened Phone.
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
Every Android release by LG has bugs so I'd rather LG release ICS even with bugs because they would have to release the source code which would enable independent developers to use the accelerated video drivers in their superior software and we would get JB too.
[LG Optimus 2x] Ferrum Master:
Very mature point of view. Fine truth about unquenchable desires and needs. And the ungrateful human nature.