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[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] CharlesIstus:
So I am Unlimited AT&T legacy customer that just went out and baught the HTC Vivid. I baught the Vivid for a couple reasons.

-Upgrade was advailabl a couple months ago. I wanted to lock in my Unlimited Plan before they start deploying LTE in my area. I wanted one the Dual Core, 4.5" screen, LTE phones.

-The display look much sharper sitting next to Skyrocket in the store. Looking at the AT&T Widgets that were the same on both phones. You can really tell the sharpness of the Vivid's screen in comparisance.

-Build quality was more "Solid." Weight was not a defining issue for me.

-I baught a first generation Captivate. So I got burned by the GPS issue. So the Samsung Skyrocket was going to have to be perfect.

-The Nexus is not going to come out for AT&T anytime soon, I think.

-I did not relize that the LG Optimas existed and is coming to AT&T as the Nitro

I am looking for some feed back on why other folks baught the HTC Vivid? Is HTC a solid company when it comes to updating? Do folks have high hopes, looking forward to, Sense 4.0 and ICS? Do any folks have any experince with LG? Did I make the wrong choice now that the LG Optimas is coming to AT&T as the Nitro? The last, and most important, do folks see a solid group of XDA Developers doing their magic on the HTC Vivid?

Now when I got burned with the purchase of the early build Samsung Captivate, and it's horrible GPS. The only thing that made the purchase worth it was the XDA Developers Community and all the effort they put in to it. So in the end I am looking to see which of the LTE, 4.5", Dual Core phones is going to get the most XDA Development, and be a good phone.

Thanks for any responses/opinion:)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] quarlow:
As far as dev support, the Skyrocket has real root, and can run TMo S II ROMs already.

LG has a worse record if possible than Samsung for Android updates. Plus, they don't have much of a following. The build quality is great, but check out the Ghost Town of the Thrill forum. That phone came out in September, its already been passed over by all the dev support.

If you want high end android phone with dev support and don't mind losing LTE the original Galaxy S II is the best phone on ATT. Its almost identicle to the international version. There were ROMs for this phone within 24 hours because all the work on the i9100 was not lost. The first phone on att with ICS will probably be that phone. I would not be surprised if we have ICS before (if at all) att has a subsidized Galaxy Nexus.

I too came from the captivate. I never had the GPS woes everyone else complained about. It was slow to get a lock, but worked solid for me from that point. The i777 original Galaxy S II is much faster to get a lock, but not as fast as my wife's iPhone. I am extrely pleased with my i777, but I don't gave LTE, and would be surprised if I have it next time I upgrade.

I bet the Vivid will pick up a lot of the Inspire crowd, but I don't think it will rival any of the Samsung phones of late.

If I had LTE coverage to play with I might have been tempted, but its still first Gen LTE phone for att, so that scares me from both the vivid and skyrocket.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
I actually wound up with one of my Lines being the LG Thrill and that phone is still stuck with Froyo so yea LG has a VERY Bad record of keeping up with updates considering the Thrill isn't even that old. As for the Skyrocket it seems to have a bit of a banding issue like white lines when you are watching movies or what not that is quite aggravating. Oh yea also forgot the Skyrocket Does not seem to have FM Radio built in. It does have an NFC chip though which is kind of a bonus but with the horrid screen it really depends on what your looking for in a device. If you want a fast phone out of the Box and something with NFC than the Skyrocket is what you will want. If you want a phone that has Wonderful resolution and will Be most likely Just as fast as the Skyrocket once it gets root than I would go with the Vivid.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Nakel:
After having owned both the Skyrocket and the Vivid for a few days, here are a couple of my thoughts. I hope this helps your decision process. This is all just my opinion.

I like the feel of the Skyrocket in my hand better.

The Skyrocket's web browser is not resizing websites when you pinch to expand. The Vivid does.

The Skyrocket's screen colors are brighter than the Vivid's, but light colored websites and text on a full white background is significantly

dimmer.

Reading ebooks is better on the Vivid, or--for that matter--my Inspire.

The Skyrocket has the charging/USB port where it belongs, on the bottom. The Vivid's is on the side. That's worse for charging cradles and using the phone while charging.

I like the screen resolution on the

Skyrocket

better. Fonts are easier to read for those with less than perfect vision. Some of the Vivid's Fonts are downright tiny.

The Vivid works flawlessly with my Motorola H17 headsets. Cyberon works great. The Skyrocket has been basically useless with the H17; how it works with voice command I don't know. This may be a compatibility issue, but still...

Synching to Outlook with the Vivid is painless and free with HTC Synch. Synching to Outlook with the Skyrocket is a PITA and costs $50. (For the third party PC program.) Perhaps there's a better way I haven't found.

Volume is FAR better on the Skyrocket.

Battery life is better on the Skyrocket.

The Vivid can turn Bluetooth volume down further. That's a big deal when on the phone with a loud talker.

Sense (Vivid) is better than Touchwiz (Skyrocket).

Both have data issues right now.

Both are plenty fast enough.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] loriolus:
I understand liking super amoled more but actually preferring lower resolution? You must be one of few. Just resize the fonts if they're too small.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] CharlesIstus:
Doors anyone know anything about the LG Nitro? It seems to be a solid device specifications wise. How much damage does LG do with their launcher/modifications.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Nakel:
Many system fonts are not resizeable. Go android. :rolleyes: One of the few? Anyone who's vision is less than perfect and doesn't want to put on their reading glasses to use the phone. Now, I believe once the phone is rooted there are apps that can change pixel density? So there probably is a way down the road to fix this. But I'm just talking out of the box experience here. Anyone with the skill/desire to get into that will disregard what I'm saying anyway. I'm just trying to help the unskilled masses make their decision.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] bjg222:
So I start this off with a disclaimer that this is complete hearsay and in no way from an authoritative source. But! I was talking to a friend of mine who works for Samsung America in the PR department about phones, and I asked her about the Galaxy Nexus. While she wouldn't really say much, she did say that if I wanted it on AT&T, I'd have to wait till the end of the 1st quarter or beginning of the 2nd quarter in 2012. So, at some point in the future, the Galaxy Nexus will likely be available for AT&T, but it'll probably be a ways off.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Hemlocke:
I have heard both good AND bad about LG phones, but this thing looks too tempting to pass up. My week old SGS II will be heading back to AT&T as soon as the Nitro drops.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] hinduboy74:
I was debating the nitro once i heard about it but after having the skyrocket and relazing the only benefit is the screen thats where it stopped. I feel that the dev community and just overall software upgrades (skyrocket is confirmed for sandwich 100%) and other lack of issues on the bulletproof skyrocket makes me believe that i made the right choice. Every time i play with the vivid and skyrocket, yes the crispy screen is nice but once you take them away from side to side the skyrocket isn't too bad.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] isikh:
Media guy here - i have a new in box Nitro HD, LTE, for AT&T, if anyone wants to buy it. PM me if interested. I got to play with it/review it extensively, and it's LG's best efforts to date. The G2x is crap against it, and LG has really stepped it up.

They gave us Nitro HD's to keep, but I'm on T-Mobile, and as much as I'd like to use the Nitro HD, I don't want to use it on Edge, T-Mobile connection, hence my reason for selling. If you want to buy it from me, let me know - thanks!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] blopez24:
If I'm not mistaken LG has said that the nitro along with the 3d optimus (the thrill here in the us) will.br getting ics upgrades. Im considering returning my vivid for the nitro cause of the screen n all I ever do is root to allow for tethering with out paying since I have unlimited data.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] isikh:
I have the Nitro, new in box for sale. As I sad above, I am on T-MObile and can't use it. PM me if interested :)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] PittFred:
I chose the Vivid over the Skyrocket because of the qHD screen and because it had an FM radio. I previously had a Captivate and loved the AMOLED screen, but after lengthy in-store comparison I felt the Vivid's was as good or better than the Skyrocket (at least at full brightness). Both seemed equally snappy. The Skyrocket was much lighter, but I decided I could live with the Vivid's weight.

Bought my Vivid the day it came out, and my only trepidation was, 'Please ATT, don't come out with any 720p phones in the next 30 days.' And sure enough, here comes the Nitro! :o :eek: :rolleyes: But even if I could change, I don't think I would. Judging on the specs in Phonescoop (subject to change), the Nitro has the 720p screen, faster processor and lighter weight, but seems to be missing the following features:

- less RAM (720MB vs. 1GB for Vivid/Skyrocket) ** see Edit **

- less internal storage (4GB internal vs. 16GB)

- no FM radio

- no video out ** see Edit **

- possibly less battery life ** see Edit **

Will check out the phone on Monday. Like I said, I really wanted 720p, but I've seen the HTC Rezound in person, and while the text is sharper, it's really only noticeable at very close range - the icon sizes were the same despite having 78% more pixels. So for now, I'm still very happy with my Vivid.

PittFred

EDIT: The Nitro has DLNA, so outputting media on a TV is possible, just not with a cable. Also, Phonearena says the RAM is 1GB, so that 720MB might be the usable figure; comparable to ~800MB for Vivid. Confirmed the 4GB internal storage and no FM radio, which is a minor thing, but I wanted it after AT&T deleted it from the E71x.

The Nitro has an 1820 mAh battery, comparable to the 1850 mAh for the Skyrocket and better than the 1620 mAh for the Vivid, but worse claimed battery life, perhaps a function of the screen. 1800 mAh after-market batteries are available for the Vivid.

After review, the specs are much closer/favorable for Nitro, so it's more of a judgment call.

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Cingular/AT&T since 2003

Nokia 6200 -> Treo 650 -> HTC 8525 -> Nokia E71/71x -> Samsung Captivate -> HTC Vivid!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jopet216:
RAM

Does 768 to 1GB of ram make a difference? This is some what of a deal breaker for me.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] PittFred:
Quick update - the specs are up on AT&T's website. I went to LG's website and downloaded the manual for the Nitro HD (LG P930), and it says that video out by HDMI cable is possible, and over WiFi/Bluetooth/USB in more limited ways. Perhaps these differences are due to differences between international and Americanized models. If correct, Nitro's specs seem even more favorable.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] boardsportsrule:
$150 in my area, may have to swap for vivid. ARG
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] randrewm97:
I'm going fir the og gs2 right after church. Vivid is nice but no root, battery life, and some what leggy ui... I came from ios and so fat I am disappoint with android but I think its the phone. Ever since I first got this phone I kinda wish I hadn't.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] randrewm97:
Just yesterday my phone didn't make it a whole day. I unplugged it at 7am and then watched some YouTube vids and by 7pm the battery was dead. Heck, at 6pm my battery said it had 40% battery and I used the navigation system for 5mins and it went down to 20%. Its kinda embarrassing when your friend ask for a flashlight so I had him my phone but the battery is to low for the flashlight to turn on. My other friend asked "I thought you had 45% battery an hour ago" and then hands his iPhone 4s to that guy. So no, this phone has been a disapointment. Sorry for the rant
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
If you think the UI is laggy then, trust me:

You have issues with Android. And may just want to go back to the iPhone.

Because as Android devices go, this phone is the smoothest I've ever seen.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
Uh.... Ok after reading your last two posts here, I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that you do some research before you buy your next phone.

Because if you expected better battery life than 7am-7pm with fairly heavy use... You should not have bought an HTC device... Simple as that.

I hope you do find the device you seek and end up with the perfect phone for your needs, but I'm pretty sure a bit of research ahead of time would have told you, the Vivid was never going to be it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] PittFred:
Ok, couldn't help myself, so I went to a store to check out the Nitro. Feels a lot like the Skyrocket in hand, a little bit heavier but lighter than the Vivid. Has a rough back, and is not slippery.

The screen is like the Rezound, and seems brighter than the Vivid's. Text is sharper, but it's most noticeable at close range (e.g., when I held it 3 inches in front of my face). It's a substantially better screen than the Skyrocket, but only slightly better than the Vivid IMO. One thing is that the icons and their text are bigger than the Vivid's, and it does not look as good because instead of having white text directly over the background, there is a blue background for all icon text. Not sure if someone changed the default text size, but it does not look as good as on the Vivid. The icons on the top bar are also larger than on the Vivid. Some might like that, but I didn't.

The interface wasn't as smooth as the Vivid, in particular switching between home screens was a bit more laggy. I found this in the Skyrocket also, and I don't know if it was LG's skin or stock Android, but HTC Sense seems smoother.

I think the Nitro will benefit greatly from ICS - when it gets Android 4.0, it will probably be better than the Vivid, minus the missing features (FM radio, only 4GB internal storage, possibly no video-out through USB port). As it stands, I would definitely rank the Nitro over the Skyrocket. I didn't test battery life, so that might be an issue.

PittFred

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Cingular/AT&T since 2003

Nokia 6200 -> Treo 650 -> HTC 8525 -> Nokia E71/71x -> Samsung Captivate -> HTC Vivid!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
has anyone verified if the Nitro on AT&T is S-Off and Bootloader Unlocked?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
It is not called S-Off on any device except HTC as far as I am aware as for Bootloader everything I have read states that it is unlocked.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Spartoi:
The only thing the Nitro has going for it imo is the screen. LG is terrible with updates and the build quality usually deteriorates after short use.

Sent from my HTC Vivid™
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] RoboMonkey:
Can you prove that statmenet with links on phones over the past year?

---------- Post added at 06:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:41 AM ----------

Can you prove that statmenet with links on phones over the past year?

I'm just askin. :cool:
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Spartoi:
No, I was just talking out of my ass. LG actually has fantastic build quality and great support, both official and dev community.

Sent from my HTC Vivid™
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] beerbaronstatic:
Just for updates look at the LG Thrill, still on Froyo and it really isn't that old of a device
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Slayer23:
Hey guys, if it's somewhere on the forum, mods, pls delete the thread.

Ok, so we have ubuntu/backtrack running on the GTAB, does anyone know, if the Wi-Fi card in the P7510/{7500 does support packet injectiopn, so it can be used for the Aircrack package under Ubuntu? If so, that would rock so hard :D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtdc:
i was also curious on this, with all the secured wifi access points around tabs come in handy especially with the cpu power to crunch.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tabing:
I came across this article :

http://mashable.com/2011/11/11/flash-mobile-dead-adobe/

Not sure either smartphones or tablet will be affected by that news. Will it affect Galaxy Tab 10.1 in long run?

Never mind guys I found another thread regarding my question. I did not saw that thread before.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] animatechnica:
It will take a while for html 5 to be ubiquitous so likely youll be good for a couple of years.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tabing:
Ok maybe the flash content we saw online will not be available on our device. I think depends on website how fast they implement HTML5 on their site
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ~Alvin~:
No I don't think so
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Popsiclestand:
Anyone else having trouble getting cloud music to play? I can see all of my songs in my online library but none if them play.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] garywojdan81:
Same here...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jiwengang:
me too!

Is it a conspiracy to let users only use MotoCast 's Music app , not google's??
[Motorola Droid RAZR] spongers:
I can...but it takes a really long time for them to start....at first it wouldn't so I hit pause and backed out of the app...and about 10 seconds later the song magically started playing....weird....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Vegas_Sirk:
Hey guys I cant even get my library of music to show up. Mine is just blank. Any ideas?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wtm1417:
I had this problem on the bionic and was able to fix it using the following steps. I deleted the pre loaded music app using root explorer, but I would try it first leaving the app alone, who knows it may still work.

1) Go to manage apps

2) select the downloaded Google music app

3) wipe the data

That's it! Load up the app and it should prompt you to allow the app to link with your Google account.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wtm1417:
As an fyi I tested the above on my razor without deleting moto's music app and it worked fine. Cheers!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Popsiclestand:
Have you tried playing the songs? My issue isn't linking the account or loading the library but getting the songs to actually play...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] wtm1417:
Yeah, just checked and it played first try.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Samzebian:
never had an issue playing with google music yesterday... idk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Popsiclestand:
Dang, well not quite sure what is up with my phone. At least I have the motocast for now.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] robocuff:
I don't have a Razr but I have run into this a couple times. On mine, I'd click the song and it would just say something like failed to play the stream, or some such thing. Anyway, you are limited to 7 devices on Google Music. If you do a lot of flashing roms, each time you flash a new one, it's counted as one device.

If this is the case, you have to go to Google Music using a web browser on a PC and delete some of the devices listed there. To do this, click the gear icon at the top right of the page, then music settings. You'll find them there.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Popsiclestand:
You sir deserve a genius award
[Motorola Droid RAZR] robocuff:
LOL, I don't know about that. Talk to my friends and family and find out about all the stupid things I've done in my life and you might have second thoughts about that one. :) Anyway, from the sound of it, it sounds like you got the problem fixed. Glad to hear it.

If you ask me, it's kind of stupid on Google's part. The error message I mean. Don't know if it comes from the Android OS or directly from Google Music but it seems to me they could program it to tell you that you have too many devices attached to the account. The way it is now, you are just left in limbo. Oh well, all's well that ends well I guess. :)
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ztag100:
Decided I didn't want to overclock.... Would uninstalling no-frills do the trick?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhxkinMassacre:
If your using set CPU set it to 998mhz that is the stock clock speed for the CPU. And yes uninstalling it will do the trick just make sure set on boot is unchecked and reboot after uninstall just to be sure :)
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
I recently updated to stock GB and decided to try some speed tests in different parts of the the city today. This is my first experience with EI22 or anything not based on EC05 for that matter.

Anyway, in my neighborhood (Morningside Heights), data speeds have always been terrible, but I was able to pull pretty decent 3G speeds in most of the rest of Manhattan with Froyo. Today, I drove through Manhattan, starting as far south as Union Square, and worked my way all the way back up the west side. In short, 3G speeds were the worst I've seen them. Areas were I was able to pull in upwards of 0.8 Mbps with Froyo, I could barely crack 0.3 Mbps with Gingerbread. The best I got was about 8th Ave and 14th, were my downstream was 0.5 and upstream of 0.73. Everywhere else hovered between 0.12 and 0.3 down and 0.2 to 0.63 up. In every case, as per usual, 3G upstream was faster than down.

I have no idea if this is a Gingerbread issue, the fault of my Epic or if Sprint's 3G network is just that much worse now than it was a few weeks back, but this is far and away the worst I've seen it since becoming a Sprint customer.

I only ran a handful of 4G speed tests, and those had downstream speeds between 7.33 Mbps and 8.74 Mbs, and meager upstream between 1.37 Mbps and 1.46 Mbps.
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
I blame apple

They copyrighted 3g and decided to to sue sprint

Sprint was then forced to comply to apples demands and turn of 3g

What you get is now only 2g unless u have an iphone
[Epic 4G General] Apollo83:
Ummm.. I really hope you don't believe that. That really is a ridiculous claim..
[Epic 4G General] RayTrue04:
I don't think it's gingerbread. I believe it has to do with all the new iphone subscriber on the network. I've noticed my speeds got crappy ever since the iphones release. I even had my sister asking me to take a look at her Evo because she said it takes forever to load on 3g. Only remedy so far is turning on 4g if you have coverage lol
[Epic 4G General] dohturdima:
I agree. Still on Froyo :o, here are my 7 AM Sat results (Upper East Side, 90's):

3G:

0.34 - 0.7 MBPS down, 0.6 - 0.7 MBPS up, PING: 87-122 MS

- most ping times were under 100 MS

- d/l speeds are inconsistent but generally are closer to the lower end of the range number rather than the higher end

4G:

2.95 - 8.77 :cool: MBPS down, 1.47 - 1.50 MBPS up, PING: 119-126 MS

- ping times are consistent, although sucky

- download speeds are very insconsistent

Conclusions:

- it is NOT Gingerbread.

- it is NOT the iPhone launch either - these speeds are similar to what I had since August, way prior to the iPhone launch.

- Sprint's 3G: you get what you pay for. Wifey's completely stock Droid 2 Global (VZW) pulls 1.5 - 2 MBPS down consistently, with consistent PINGs in the 70 MS range.

- Sprint's 4G: great if you can find it, but spotty coverage and battery life drain limit its usefulness. Would take consistent 1.5 MBPS+ 3G with in-building penetration over current version of WiMax any day of the week.
[Epic 4G General] dieselg5:
Sprint 3G has always sucked in NYC