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[Captivate Android Development] :
Is anyone having problems using odin the flash the stock kernel on this release? I have used fugu root on all the other releases and then used odin to flash the stock kernel back and it has always worked. This release the stock kernel is hanging in odin so I have to use the kk1 kernel to get the phone to boot. Anyone have any ideas?
[Captivate Android Development] stoobie-doo:
Are you using the one I posted? I pulled that from the original link, but have not flashed yet myself - assumed someone would need it besides me - and I won't be able to run through the flash until later tonight. Has anyone used the kernel that I posted? Hoping I didn't do something wrong in creating the tar.
[Captivate Android Development] :
Ya, its the one you posted.
[Captivate Android Development] stoobie-doo:
Can anyone else weigh in whether they've had problems? If so, I'll yank it to prevent others having problems. All I did was take the zimage file from the full ROM and tar it using 7-zip. I can confirm that the zimage file is bit for bit right.
[Captivate Android Development] rajendra82:
I also had issues trying to flash the stock kernel tar file on page 1 as well. I usually see that happen when the tar file is incompatible (e. g., created using 7zip). What I ended up doing, was extracting the zImage inside the tar.md5 containing the ROM, and building my own tar file using command line tools from Cygwin. That file flashed just fine.
[Captivate Android Development] :
Good to know. I was about ready to throw my computer. Thanks
[Captivate Android Development] nakedninja42:
Here is one i created and used after I flashed fugu

Would've posted earlier but I thought the one on the first page was working :rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] rajendra82:
7 zip creates versions of tar files that odin does not like. Better to use GNU tar.
[Captivate Android Development] Jsmokey:
That's exactly why I waited kyuta, I knew it was going to go this way again, lol.

Wonder if these are true I897 leaks or not. I was reading in the fusion rom thread and it turns out kh3 was the last true i897 leak to come out, others were i997 according to what he found and I believe one other device if I remember what I read correctly. Seems like samsung really is just using us all for beta testing their newest firmwares....

Sent from my I897 w/Antares Darkcloud, Red Nebula kernel, & 1.3Ghz OC using Tegrak.
[Captivate Android Development] stoobie-doo:
Nuts. I am on Win; I will pull my file; assuming that nakedninja42's is the one to use.

I am sorry
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
How'd he learn that? Would explain why KH3 is so much more stable then the recent ones...
[Captivate Android Development] erbsmokah:
You can simulate a linux environment on your windows PC with Cygwin and pack the file from there.
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
IZarc works great at modifying existing working tars in windows. drag in new file, done.
[Captivate Android Development] Jsmokey:
You'd have to ask him and read the thread its in the last few pages of the fusion thread where he talks about it.

Makes since too since a couple of them had the h+ icon for the network which we clearly don't have not to mention some of the other weird quirks some of them had.

Sent from my I897 w/Antares Darkcloud, Red Nebula kernel, & 1.3Ghz OC using Tegrak.
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
+1, IZArc is what I like to use. http://www.izarc.org/
[Captivate Android Development] mikel.canovas:
Can anyone comment on how kk builds are compared to kj and jvt?
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
I've always used cygwin.
[Captivate Android Development] IlluminatedOne:
Kyuta, Check his thread from this page - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1233979&page=314
[Captivate Android Development] Jsmokey:
Thanks Illuminated I was actually just coming back here to post the link for him to check out since I had a minute to pop onto my computer. Thanks button hit for the assist btw.:D
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
Wow !! That's very interesting...and makes sense as well.
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
still just speculation, also has timestamp bug, or is that development of a european att phone?
[Captivate Android Development] allenlo83:
anyway to get this rooted with stock kernel? Superoneclick 2.2 doesnt work.. :(
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
Well that's interesting to know. Thanks for that.

Kernel Swap method or you could flash boog's kernel followed by the root file in the thread then flash back to stock kernel.
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
[ROM] I897UCKK2 rooted/ deodexed/zipaligned zipaligned

just cwm flash this...

then odin flash the stock kernel from page 1
[Captivate Android Development] erbsmokah:
All rogers users get the timestamp bug on just about any AT&T firmware.

Edit: I'm also not convinced its a bug rather than a network compatability issue. I know rogers had issues with it on thier official firmware back in the eclair days... who knows if they fixed it or put a bandaid on it. I'm willing to bet they just put some polysporin on it and walked away.
[Captivate Android Development] tmanonyx:
I had problems with that one also. Just hung in Odin. I extracted and created my own using Izarc.
[Captivate Android Development] erbsmokah:
European AT&T phone? You are joking right?

---------- Post added at 10:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 PM ----------

You cannot compile a .tar file on windows without using a linux emulator like cygwin.

Edit: Perhaps there is a compression program that will but 7zip, winrar etc... will not.
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
anyone that knows me knows my EXTREEM sarcasm... i was just trying to point out how obsurd the idea that the "leaked att roms" are dev roms for a new upcoming phones because the "H" status signal in the ki builds, i was "saying" the same should be true for the kj/kk builds with the timestamp.

AS SAID FEW LAST PAGE>>>

IZARC in windows works fine.
[Captivate Android Development] ctleng76:
I agree that this is just speculation. It could be that the two devices (i897 and i997) do share the same basic code. That doesn't automatically rule these leaks out as being possible "official" leaks. Unless he know someone on the inside at Samsung it is just speculation.
[Captivate Android Development] Johnsondr80:
Give me a minute.....

Its more than knowing some one.

It helped- by point it out to me.

But ive seen it.

Soon you will too.

Just a minute, I dont spread propaganda.

You can find

this

inside of your kj3 stock android.policy.jar

view it in notepad++

at line 156 you will find

const-string v8, "SGH-I997"

it is throughout the codeing in the jars and even smali in apks

not true for kh3 or older i897GB builds

these just started showing up

maybe a new thing now in 2.3.5 and up....idk

who knows?

But a friend told me that we are possibly testing firmware for new and upcoming devices.

ps. my friend has been right about a lot!! i for one believe them.

;)
[Captivate Android Development] Jsmokey:
Of course its all mostly speculation but I believe he came to the assumption because he probably went through kh3 and didn't find any of the oddities in code that pointed to the others being either a hybrid or not made specifically for the captivate. No one but samsung would really know but its just something interesting he came across in all but kh3 and I just wondered if the new kk leaks were the same way.

Could also be they were integrating code from the i997 to test how it would work or really any number of things.

Man this whole debate blew up a little there.

Sent from my I897 w/Antares Darkcloud, Red Nebula kernel, & 1.3Ghz OC using Tegrak.
[Captivate Android Development] sinichi21:
Maybe the new upcoming samsung captivate 2 that has keyboard on it maybe thats why its h+ enable before :eek:
[Captivate Android Development] erbsmokah:
But the i997 is the infuse is it not? The infuse is basically a beefed up captivate
[Captivate Android Development] LOSTLOGIC89:
I noticed the same thing, but I took a stupid guess(which is maybe a error from their part LOL )
[Captivate Android Development] oldbbman:
Yes it is the infuse
[Captivate Android Development] mrhaley30705:
Has KK3 been released yet?(just kidding)
[Captivate Android Development] TRusselo:
johnsonr80 says monday morning...
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
Well I won't be that precise, but I'm also betting on Monday.
[Captivate Android Development] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Sorry, by then we'll see KL2:eek:
[Captivate Android Development] rajendra82:
KL2 won't be built until December 2011, because K = 11th Year, L = 12th Month, 2 = Second Build. This is why all the KJ builds were from October 2011, while KK1 and KK2 were from November 2011.
[Captivate Android Development] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Thanks brother, never knew that! Sooooo dose anybody remember AA1:rolleyes:
[Captivate Android Development] IlluminatedOne:
LOL, android wasn't even born that time.. :p
[Captivate Android Development] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I know, it just sounded funny:D
[Captivate Android Development] El Niche:
I flashed the previous 2.3.5 ROMs and have been seeing a great improvement compared to Froyo. However, in the last two that were released, my phone either reboots or freezes when I try to unlock it (prob once every 5-6 days). This never happened with Froyo. Could it be an app I'm using, or should I go ahead and try KK2 to see it is a memory problem (its like if it was running out of RAM until it poops and reboots or freezes) that was solved?

Im using GO Launcher I dont know if that causes the problem. Has anyone experienced this and should I flash this one to see if its solved (Im currently in KJ3)?

Thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
You should definitely flash KK2
[Captivate Android Development] nbell13:
Agreed. KJ3 was very buggy compared to previous builds, and was a major factor in my jumping ship to CyanogenMod 7 :p
[Captivate Android Development] erbsmokah:
So far this ROM and its variants has/have been pretty good to me. I havent had 1 sleep death since I flashed. Much more stable than KJ3 I would say.
[Captivate Android Development] stoobie-doo:
I had reboot problems all the time with KJ3, sometimes multiple times a day, and then multiple in a row upon boot. I had installed GO Launcher, uninstalled it, and still had the problems. KK2 isn't perfect, but a week in, I am trusting it a lot more than I had trusted KJ3.
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
Well the KJ series (never really tested any of the others so I'm not sure if it holds true for them) had an issue where if you had too many apps installed (or rather too much storage spaced being used by the app installations including whatever the app downloads after you install it from the market) to the internel SD/USB storage it would cause your phone to constantly reboot and of course the work around that I ended up using was moving all my non-game apps to the phone and not downloading so many game apps at once which I'm still doing so I can't say for sure if the KK series has this issue.
[Captivate Android Development] demarton:
comparto KJ3, KJ3 browser has nasty memory leaks, but KK2 doens;t seem to have it, but generally browser feels slow to switch between multiple tabs, I'm so grown used to Opera since KJ3 crappy stock browser.

haven't notice anything else different.
[Captivate Android Development] resilva:
I have experienced the same thing. I was on the Oct. 2010 Froyo official leak then flashed UCKJ2 official leak. UCKJ2 worked perfectly for a week then one day after replacing the battery with a fulled charged one (I normally replace the battery with a fresh one once a day after I hit the 2% red in the battery life) it would crash after trying to read the SD card media files, only fix is to let it boot up and take it's time. It normally hangs on the Galaxy S logo screen for 4-5 minutes then boots up normal again.

Funny how it took a week of normal use for this glitch to show itself.

Has anyone flashed the KK2 ROM and noticed any fix to this?
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
Move to KK2. It is overall a whole lot better than the kj* leaks.
[Captivate Android Development] J-Wall:
What is the best Kernel to run on this release?
[Captivate Android Development] Jsmokey:
Its all a matter of personal preference and how you use the device. As far as what will work with it, you can use any of the captivate gingerbread leak kernels kh3, the ki ones, or the kk ones they are all cross compatible.

As far as choices for tweaked kernels there's mine red nebula, kyuta's samurai, and mtcarey's corn kernel and there's also boog's which is slightly tweaked.
[Captivate Android Development] david007co:
Steps to Install

Hi, first of all. Please bare with me lol...

I have again Eclair (Had CM7.1 before, but needed to restore again with OCD Odin).

For flashing this rom, I want to know the following:

1-Do I have to root the phone again;is it necceessary?

2-Do I have to install CWM?

Or is the procedure is just flash it on Odin, without doing any of the above??

Thank you.
[Captivate Android Development] 4-2ndtwin:
Ur answer is here...http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19731114&postcount=60
[Captivate Android Development] early81:
is this a stock rom or a custom rom?? is it clean or has at&t apps? is it more stable than cm7?? thanks
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
It's a stock update with bloatware. Never used CM7 so I can't really give a comparison.
[Android Apps and Games] Mr KOP:
Hi alls!

I am a new android developer

this is my first app on android market

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.raycircle.mapmini

it usefull for low device :p
[Android Apps and Games] jason2005:
thx, I test it now, very quick! I'm waiting update for can use "search" option ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Mr KOP:
thank for reply!

i will update soon

can you show me some forum android? i want to present this app;)
[Android Apps and Games] ukanth:
does it compatible with 2.3.7 ? unable to install from market !
[Android Apps and Games] Mr KOP:
Which device and rom do you use? I test it ok on Htc hd2 used 2.3.7 and xoom 3.2 from market

may be you can not install it via market because of the rom used.
[Android Apps and Games] jason2005:
I download this app by market, all is ok

on x10 mini pro with MiniCM7Pro v21 (2.3.7)
[Android Apps and Games] ukanth:
I use MIUI 2.3.7 on Desire ( you can see it in my signature ) . I agree. Is there anyway to fix it on market ?
[Android Apps and Games] Mr KOP:
Thank for reply.some devices used MIUI can not download some apps and i dont know the reason :(
[Android Apps and Games] Mr KOP:
Thank alls. Plz vote for me if possible
[Android Apps and Games] Mr KOP:
Hi alls.now available for x10
[Android Apps and Games] jason2005:
thanks, a little update for use search option and I vote on market ;)
[Android Apps and Games] ukanth:
Can you upload the apk here if possible?

Sent from my HTC Desire
[HTC EVO 3D] sprintuser1977:
Does anyone have any idea what the average markup is on cell phones? They are getting damn expensive, more than tabs and laptops, and I would assume they are making a nice profit. Anyone work for a cell company that knows? I am definitely curious.
[HTC EVO 3D] themuffinman:
Well as far as actual unit costs of the phone, I don't know but these carriers pay a lot more for the phones than we do so they lose money on the actual sale of the phone but they make that money back and then some when we sign up for a 2 years contract or ETF's if we decide to cancel early. So I guess your question should be what is the average cost to maintain and provide service for each account and/or line.
[HTC EVO 3D] spalding1028:
I used to work in retail (radioshack) I don't remember what we paid for the 3d, but the evo 4g retailed at $499.99 and warehouse cost was $494.99, so profit margin isn't much at all. Carriers and retailers make money off of the contract. Usually first year is making up for the loss on the handset, and the second year is profit. Retailers like RS, BB, and WM get a commission from the carriers.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
Yeah, what he said is 100% true. I believe there is some loss at the motorola, HTC, level too initially also because the cost of manufacturing the technology when brand new is high. After x number of units is sold they break even, and then the cost of manufacturing decreases and they begin raking in profits again.

The same thing happens with other technology comes out too, that's why it is so important for these companies to either have a lot of capital, or capable of borrowing the money. Once the cost of research and development is made up, and cost of manufacturing goes down they begin making lots more money. If a device was designed poorly and popularity is low they get in a pretty tight spot.
[HTC EVO 3D] BlaydeX15:
Yeah, the tech itself is pretty expensive. Retailers aren't marking up more than 1-2% initially... If they're lucky. Most hardware is like that (Aside from desktop computers, and to a lesser extent, laptops). At my last job, we were actually losing money on all the game consoles we sold (Like 1-2 dollars, but still...) and phones were even worse.
[HTC EVO 3D] flonker:
It's all a scam. There hasn't been a new phone manufactured in 15 years. All these supposed "new" phones are just refurbished Nokias, or at least they have been since '96. Google it.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
This isn't true best buy makes it up to what 600 or 700 lol well other charge 499.
[HTC EVO 3D] DJ1994:
what the heck are you talking about. They did not have computers with processors like the ones in our phones 15 years ago. Try using anything from then and tell me that there has been no progress. Man I hope you were kidding about this.
[HTC EVO 3D] sprintuser1977:
I know when i used to be a manager at toys r us we would only make $5 on video game systems. Our money was made on the games. In the same reasoning with the sale of phones and signing contracts. I just find it crazy some of these phones are way more expensive than laptops and the only diff sometimes is the laptop doesnt make calls
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Lol your funny if u thought he was serious.
[HTC EVO 3D] spalding1028:
That's true on the bestbuy part. Imho, they don't want people to buy them outright... that, and they still want to make a nice profit on the devices.

---------- Post added at 04:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:07 PM ----------

Kinda the same thing with the phones. Profit margin is EXTREMELY small on the device (unless it's Best buy) but they make up for it with accessories (which is why when you buy a phone from radioshack, if that store has a good district manager, they will try to cram accessories down your throat).
[HTC EVO 3D] lyon21:
When the iPhone 4 came out, I think I read somewhere that it was costing apple around $195 to make each phone. I would imagine most phones are pretty similar. The manufacturers actually make quite a bit. The carriers and other retailers don't too much (except best buy of course).

Sent by my Supercharged dual core from the 3rd Dimension
[HTC EVO 3D] spalding1028:
http://www.gizmag.com/apple-cost-iphone4/15583/

close... wow I never would've thought that... makes me wonder how much our evo 3d's cost to build... To the google!
[HTC EVO 3D] sprintuser1977:
Yea im wanting that galaxy note baad but the cheapest i have seen it is like $760. Insane
[HTC EVO 3D] Drewmungus:
No way the profit margins are that bad. Look at tablet prices, they for the most part are nowhere near 700 or 800. and they still make money off them and a lot of them are the same hardware as the phones with a bigger screen.
[HTC EVO 3D] DJ1994:
I know but still you have got to be kidding me.
[HTC EVO 3D] flonker:
Oh I am quite serious.
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Then explain
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
Yeah but you didn't consider the super micro architecture. It takes a lot to manufacture a processor this powerful, with such low voltage and low heat
[HTC EVO 3D] life64x:
my view is different then others here, i dont care what the price markup is...i have family all over the world...it keeps me intouch with them in a instant. if the phones was 1500...i would not care. what these phones do and the time they save more then makes up for the cost. and reality is..profits are only earned if the phone is good enough...how many phones does htc make? billions in r&d...plus phones that did not sell...
[HTC EVO 3D] Drewmungus:
They are the same as in the tablets. A tegra 2 phone processor and a tegra 2 tablet processor is the same thing. What really takes up space in a tablet is a huge battery and the big screen.
[HTC EVO 3D] mazook98:
If you truly believe any bit of your previous post, then you are only a "quite serious" moron.

<<work in progress>>
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
I'm sorry, I am not trying to be rude, so forgive me. You are kidding right?

http://www.smartkeitai.com/motorola-xoom-android-tablet-gets-dismantled-teardown-images/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1165986

That's just one example. The processor, graphics processor, and heat sink alone are 4 times the size of our phones'. The circuitry is also loads bigger. The lanes on that tablet are a good 8 th of an inch, where the phones' are hair sized.

There is definitely a smaller form factor going into these phones than the tablets.
[HTC EVO 3D] Newklearx3:
Just got an email from Verizon saying its available.

Look what they wrote in the description

Incomparable strength:

•Encasedin KEVLAR® fiber •Reinforced with Corning® Gorilla® Glass •Water-repellent nanocoating

Seems like a marketing scheme. Granted it may have "water - repellent nanocoating" lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Akasa Fox:
Yeah, my phone has water repelling plastic.

Sounds like a gimmick but so did 3D honestly, and it turns out to be a pretty awesome side feature.

Though Kevlar is ungodly strong, that's a good feature.
[HTC EVO 3D] Sad Panda:
Yeah, it is a bit of a marketing gimmick. These companies that advertise about the durability of a phone, trying to sell it as bullet proof, and these things are not even scratch resistant. Look at the evo 3D, it supposedly has gorilla glass. Not only are there thousands of us that have already dealt with a screen crack, but the glass scratches so easily. I mean the evo 3D gets micro scratches by pulling it out of your pocket if a screen protector isn't used. If this glass is supposed to be scratch resistant the only scratches you would see would be the bigger deeper ones from a sharp object with lots of force applied.

Kevlar...what a waste. For kevlar to do anything at all it has to be real dense, and multi layered. Even then, you can cut through kevlar, it is only useful with blunt force. You still will scratch the hell out of the device.

I hope I am wrong about everything I said, but using the logic I did I think it is reasonable to assume the protection isn't going to add the type of durability we actually need.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
lol... that email is funny.

strength! size! scratch resistent! and a free box of rubbers!!! marketing... i wish i was in that business. i would wreck shop.
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
No I believe it's true. The tech isn't new, you can find it in some boots (ex. Timberland Earthkeepers). The water will bead on anything with the nanocoating.

It's pretty cool, the earth keeper boots are pretty damn ugly though. Colonial-Cowboy-Cabindweller-Swampman-Jack-esc boots.
[HTC EVO 3D] aimbdd:
I put my phone in my pocket with my keys every day... And not a single scratch anywhere on the screen. It's more scratch resistant... Not scratch proof. In the end It's still Glass so it will still crack if you drop it and it lands badly.

Sent from my HTC Evo 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] cobraboy85:
I'm gonna buy one and take a shower while my phone is in my pocket with every set of keys I own... and if it gets damaged... I am starting a riot

yumadtho?
[HTC EVO 3D] reverepats:
LMFAO..... Yeah let us know what happens. That's some funny ****. I'm sure someone will test that out
[HTC EVO 3D] nkawal:
water repellent.....hahaha. ifixit torn it down and found 2 water detector stickers in the bottom.