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[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
i'm raising hell with an HTC representative. I hope to get it escalated soon.

their first reply:

my response (awaiting an answer)

i realize this isnt getting very far with some level 1 csr, but i will continue to push the issue as far as i need to get an answer. i really want to know why the AT&T version is the one gimped out of the gate.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
this just sounds counter productive. if you have ideas, share them.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dagnus:
bounty? absolutely!

I would happily donate to this effort. i would easily donate 40 dollars if everything is achieved!

p.s. PG did you get a vivid???? hooray!!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
Sharing is caring.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
of course ;)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
By the way I got the same exact response so I think that is an automated response.

I am also tending to believe AT&T is the reason we are so locked down due to the fact that HTCDev has this statement on their website now that I don't recall seeing when I first got this phone.

"HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. We continue to work with our partners on this, check back often for ongoing updates about unlockable devices."

The Operator Restrictions sounds like BAD news for us to get an Unlock from them.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jayv81:
I wish I knew about all this coding stuff so I could help. But unfortunately I dont. So like I said in my first post I'll do my part by giving my part in the bounty.

I read an earlier post about sim unlock. The guy got a response from att saying there will be no sim unlock because the phone is exclusive to att. I call bs on that. The same device is on other carries just a different name. Excuses are like a$$h0le$. Everybody's got one and they all stink.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] GSLEON3:
Take notice that none of the unlocked devices are from AT&T.

As for the SGS2, I had both since 9am on the 6th of November & as you can see in my OP, I kept the Vivid & gave the (unlocked) SkyRocket to the misses.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
yeah, i was assuming this as well. crazy that its like this.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mohsinkhan47:
I'm trying to get my hands on a Vivid so I can finally start dev-ing and debugging on my own lol
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
I'll pony up some geedus as well. I'd love to see this thing cracked open like the Inspire and have an awesome Dev group.

Tx
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Apatche69:
I will be willing to assist in any capacity. I have been learning a lot with android devices since few months with the inspire and now the vivid. If any dev would like to recruit some help I certainly be able to learn quickly

Sent from my HTC Vivid
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] bjg222:
Yes, if you have some insight, please do share! We've gotten to where we are with a stable temp root because several of us were tackling the problem and sharing information! I hope that we can continue that towards a real HBOOT unlock!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Put me down for $20 :o
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ceo.mtcl:
I'll chip in 25 bucks for this project.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] MOster:
Yeah, they're turning it up in NYC, too. I was pulling 30MB down. I have NO IDEA what I'm going to do with 30 meg on my phone (other than tether my grandfathered unlimited data, of course).
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] akcooper9:
Yesterday at lunch I pulled down 40!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
When it first came on, I got 39 and change, but I didn't save the image before I cleared my browser :(

Ever since, it's been ~19
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] lawrny:
Put me down for $20

Please root my Vivid!!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] MOster:
Please go back through the thread and read how to add yourself to the Google doc.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
Ok, I've been kind of playing with rev'ing the bootloader unlock, but I just don't have the time to spend on it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] MOster:
You'll get a ton of appreciation (as well as prizes) for your trouble.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
Probably also get fired though ;P (and possibly sued). Considering getting a newer evo from sprint with my upgrade... I need an unlockable phone to work on, I'd like to get the 3d, since it's so wide open, but I think I'll get the design instead, cheaper.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
Sprint's no longer offering me my upgrade, so I'm removing my Inspire from the bounty, to get a deduction at Sprint, toward my rooting effort. Sorry, but I don't think that anybody will really care for two Inspires anyway :P
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
i hope all is going good

im still up with 50$ ill give 25 extra for sim unlocked
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] MOster:
I guess we should close this thread now.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
^ I'm not sure... I still feel that some of the pledged money should be given where due. I have the belief that Gsleon and Evil pushed the hell out of HTC to release the unlock. They posted a lot about it in Evil's forum on how they spent hours on the phone together. The day after it got unlocked, evil tweeted HTC and said something like "thanks for keeping up your end of the deal", HTC responded with a simple " ;) "...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
WTF is that mean?! That sounds under the counter-y.

Also, s-off, sim unlock, etc, have not been achieved, so there is still plenty of reason to leave it open.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
True, but for the basic user, HTC unlock is enough.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pside15:
True, but having a permanent s-off is one of the prerequisites and that hasn't been achieved yet. I think it should stay open until s-off is achieved and then the bounty should be paid.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Wouldn't the "third place" still have been completed though? The only hang up is the time period it took.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Couldn't say it any better that they do deserve part of the bounty
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pside15:
The other hang up is that it says

"All these must be done and confirmed by myself or Pirateghost to be working 100% before HTC unlocks....or within 1 months time"

HTC did the actual unlock so I don't know if that makes the bounty null or not. I'm not really sure how it would work exactly because I've never been part of a bounty before. Unless we can completely confirm certain people had a large part in getting HTC to unlock it, which I believe that they did.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Yea that is a little bit of a technical hang up with the wording there. I feel like most of the people probably ditched, and I thought that would happen anyways. At this day and age, even if it was cracked within a month, I have a hard time believing every single one of those people would stick to their "pledges".
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jpitch2415:
So uhhhh are we gonna send a PayPal payment to HTC hehehe
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] kozmikkick:
Realistically would think this would continue as s-off is really what we need but that really will only come from a leaked engineering bootloader or a custom hacked bootloader.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
my money is here

htc unlock is different

s-off, sim unlock i will pay
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] watcherliu:
Totally agreed!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
10 chars
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] austin4913:
I will happily donate $25 to assist...I appreciate the downloads thus far and the proposed tool would be great..so please out my $25 to the bounty..
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] gtkansan:
20 anytime anyday.... 20 extra if it can be soon.... dying to get rid of some of this htc crap bloatware and to be able to use wifi tether...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
GSLEON3- I made a word document of people that are willing to donate so far. Maybe you can edit your original post with the info?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jpitch2415:
I'll throw down $50 if its in November, $25 after that...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] tacotino:
Hey I hate to be a ****... But I was trolling, my bad ;p ill toss another 10 in haha troll food....
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DWOeAvyItwlQCxuIQKfhufsbkvdcPNsu6gu_N8Cxx_Y/edit

Editable on the web, no MS Word/other office prog needed.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Thanks Redneck :D. So much easier, how come I didn't think of that:(
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
OMG.

the response i just got is f'ng incredible.

they literally didnt even read my response and promptly sent me this:
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jpitch2415:
Tried it......I HATE YOU ATT!!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] 93795311:
I'm on Raider and already had the unlocked bootloader and perm root. However I will still like to donate $10 any day for some active development in this section.

Also one question, will Raider be able to use the tools developed for Vivid specifically? All these HTC device naming just piss me off.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] thefallen83:
Did it workk??
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dagnus:
Webtool didn't work... Stupid operator....and PG good to see you here!!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] robertmoore208:
Welcome

Hey bro, welcome.. I used your Roms when I had my Inspire.. glad you joined us.. Now only if Capychimp came over too:)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] MOster:
I've got $25 before December 1.

EDIT: In the Google doc.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] :
All these must be done and confirmed by myself or Pirateghost to be working 100% before HTC unlocks....or within 1 months time

1st Place....Xperia Arc Brand New Retail Price: $595.99

1. Unlock Bootloader - HBoot

2. Achieve a PERMANENT S-Off status

3. True Permanent root

4. Engineering HBoot

2nd Place.... Xperis Pro 3g Brand New Retail Price: $449.99

1. Unlock Bootloader - HBoot

2. Achieve a PERMANENT S-Off status

3. True Permanent root

3rd Place.... Inspire 4g Brand New Retail Price: $324.00

Any of the other two mentioned above after the time frame has expired (1 months time...)

NOW WHAT???.....WHO WANTS THIS BAD ENOUGH?

WC
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] cyber_pete:
Oh wow their support is as bad as AT&T.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ifiweresolucky:
I'd donate $10
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
this is huge guys. if you know of anyone familiar with unlocking bootloaders on htc, point them to this thread.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dcarr622:
$25 if complete by December 6th
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] bjg222:
I'm attempting to get in touch with the guys over at Revolutionary.io, they've put together an unlock/S-OFF tool that works on several HTC phones (including the Sensation & Evo lines). It worked great on my IncS, too, which never got an official unlock from HTC. Hopefully I can get an answer from them and we can start working towards a solution from there.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] saint168:
I will donate $20 but I also need carrier unlock since I am going to Hong Kong in a few months.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rinnycoop121:
put me down for $10
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Talk about raising the stakes. Let's get the ball rolling with it now. Props to you WC for your prizes.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] joshua54:
Ill throw $10 in if done by Christmas. As this baby will be my present to myself if we can get it unlocked:)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] travisxcore:
Depending on the date put me down for:

If before November 25th - $30

If after but before December 1st - $25

If after but before December 15th - $15

If after but before January 1st - $5
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
I have created a Google Excel doc that might be more helpful the a Word doc. I have not added any sum yet but i just wanted to knock it out fast.

Ill do sum later or if anyone wants to do that now or later they can just sign in

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtLa8Diz1WBcdEt5eG95SEVzdmJTOHBxTVFDYzlqTHc

Drew
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] :
Missed these....lol

1st Place....Xperia Arc Brand New Retail Price: $595.99

1. Unlock Bootloader - HBoot

2. Achieve a PERMANENT S-Off status

3. True Permanent root

4. Engineering HBoot

2nd Place.... Xperis Pro 3g Brand New Retail Price: $449.99

1. Unlock Bootloader - HBoot

2. Achieve a PERMANENT S-Off status

3. True Permanent root

3rd Place.... Inspire 4g Brand New Retail Price: $324.00

Any of the other two mentioned above after the time frame has expired (1 months time...)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] boardsportsrule:
Updated google doc's, should be accurate, feel free to give any suggestions!

putting you into googledoc as soon being 12/1/11, lemme know if that's not kosher for you
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] travisxcore:
I'm so excited to see how this works out. If I was a developer I'd hop right on into this cause there is some serious monetary value not to mention how impressive it'd be.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] markjo:
I'll offer $35 until 12/1/11.

I wish I could help contribute more to the development community. Not for money or rewards or anything I would just love to help fellow members out.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
TZ_HTC_SVC_VERIFY_BOOTLOADER ret = 0
sbl1 verified successfully

HW Security has been enabled !

Keycard ID: -1

Device was already locked!

O0, 0x4D, 0x1, 0x100
O1, 0x51, 0x101, 0x200
O2, 0x5D, 0x301, 0xFCDE
O3, 0x5, 0xFFDF, 0x1D4A020

Available eMMC Sector = 30777343

eMMC write protection group size = 16384

Start Verify: 3
erase sector 130560 ~ 131071 (512)
Boot/Recovery signature checking...
setup_tag addr=0x48000100 cmdline add=0x801E9BA0
TAG:Ramdisk OK
TAG:skuid 0x2D002
TAG:hero panel = 0x94002F
TAG:engineerid = 0x0
TAG: PS ID = 0x0
[FAT_ERROR] fat_open_file: can not find RADIOVER.CFG
No RADIOVER.CFG in radio image for SSD version!
[FAT_ERROR] fat_open_file: can not find MDM9KVER.CFG
No MDM9KVER.CFG in mdm9k image for SSD version!
Device CID is not super CID
CID is CWS__001
setting->cid::CWS__001
serial number: HT1ASV*****
commandline from head: console=ttyHSL3 androidboot.hardware=
holiday no_console_suspend=1
command line length =626
active commandline: poweron_status=1 board_holiday.disable_u
art3=0 diag.enabled=0 board_holiday.debug_uart=0 userdata_se
l=0 androidboot.emmc=true androidboot.pagesize=2048 skuid=0
ddt=20 androidboot.lb=0 androidboot.baseband=N/A androidboot
.cid=CWS__001 androidboot.devicerev=0 androidboot.batt_power
on=good_battery androidboot.carrier=ATT androidboot.mid=PH39
10000 enable_zcharge=1 androidboot.keycaps=qwerty androidboo
t.qwerty_color=GenericColor androidboot.dq=PASS androidboot.
mode=recovery androidboot.serialno=HT1ASVJ27367 androidboot.
bootloader=1.83.0014 zygote_oneshot=off console=ttyHSL3 andr
oidboot.hardware=holiday no_console_suspend=1
aARM_Partion[0].name=misc
aARM_Partion[1].name=recovery
aARM_Partion[2].name=boot
aARM_Partion[3].name=system
aARM_Partion[4].name=cache
aARM_Partion[5].name=userdata
aARM_Partion[6].name=devlog
aARM_Partion[7].name=pdata
aARM_Partion[8].name=radio
aARM_Partion[9].name=adsp
aARM_Partion[A].name=radio_config
aARM_Partion[B].name=modem_st1
aARM_Partion[C].name=modem_st2
aARM_Partion[D].name=mdm9k
aARM_Partion[E].name=mdm9k_config
aARM_Partion[F].name=mdm_efs1
aARM_Partion[10].name=mdm_efs2
partition number=17
Valid partition num=17
TZ_HTC_SVC_SET_DDR_MPU ret = 0
smem 50004000 (phy 50004000): TZ_HTC_SVC_UPDATE_SMEM ret = 0
TZ_HTC_SVC_ENC ret = 0
[SECURITY] radio_gen_mdm_smem_signature: completed
Start Verify: 3
erase sector 325634 ~ 327678 (2045)
TZ_HTC_SVC_LOG_OPERATOR ret = 0
TZ_HTC_SVC_DISABLE ret = 73490432 (0x4616000)
holiday_gpio_init_For9K_OnAndBack
jump_to_kernel: machine_id(3315), tags_addr(0x48000100), ker
nel_addr(0x48008000)
-------------------hboot boot time:257489 msec
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] markjo:
Huh? Damn I wish I could speak code.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
What are we seeing here pirate?

Drew
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
information from fastboot oem commands. i am digging into what everything does.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mohsinkhan47:
It would be a good idea to have another output from a rooted device that has the bootloader unlocked, this way we can compare and contrast.

I made some notes as seen below. Pirate,can you clearify or comment on what these things are or what they do. Thanks.

TZ_HTC_SVC_VERIFY_BOOTLOADER ret = 0

sbl1 verified successfully

//does this check to see if the bootloader is locked or unlocked??

Device CID is not super CID

CID is CWS__001

setting->cid::CWS__001

// so device is locked and saves it in settings??

androidboot

.cid=CWS__001

// so on boot it sets the device on lock?

aARM_Partion[7].name=pdata

//I don't know if this is related to anything but what is pdata??

TZ_HTC_SVC_SET_DDR_MPU ret = 0

smem 50004000 (phy 50004000): TZ_HTC_SVC_UPDATE_SMEM ret = 0

TZ_HTC_SVC_ENC ret = 0

[SECURITY] radio_gen_mdm_smem_signature: completed

Start Verify: 3

erase sector 325634 ~ 327678 (2045)

TZ_HTC_SVC_LOG_OPERATOR ret = 0

TZ_HTC_SVC_DISABLE ret = 73490432 (0x4616000

//it checks if the bootloader is locked or unlocked for some reason.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] tacotino:
Please tell me this will work, move down the page to where the guy talks about rooting.... lol if this works i'll cry!!! i justed google htc vivid root, i'm sure it wont work but we'll see

http://forums.techarena.in/portable-devices/1439631.htm

someone should try it...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dcarr622:
Root != bootloader unlock
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jaxboater:
Are you saying we have to have bootloader unlocked before perm root?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jaxboater:
I'll try this other root this afternoon
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ccb101:
Just tried this method and this is the old temp root we got in the beginning
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] GSLEON3:
errrr.... Thanks for playing...

I decompiled everything in that "1-Click Root" & can confirm their is nothing new. That post is the old temp root version that does not work correctly.

BTW, Yes Bootloader or HBoot is the first step on the road to root.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pside15:
It won't work for us like a couple of people above me posted. If you read his post the first thing he says is that he unlocked his boot-loader. We can't do that yet.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] tacotino:
Wait I know the phones aren't the same but the atrix had root when the bootloader was still locked...gingerblur by Kenneth that guy was crazy good... I don't think he made the root, almost sure of it... But he made the atrix work with looked bootloader, someone should hit him up. He started working on our phone but got the skyrocket after a few days.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] GSLEON3:
Nah, That was NOT a True Permanent Root. That was a script to auto temp-root the device at boot time.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rodger-sp:
Pit me down for

$25.00
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] :
@GS...The phones are out of the boxes yes,but have never had a sim in them....these are not used phones....

WC
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pstevep:
OK. Need some information from you guys.

We typically move bounty threads to general sections. So is this strictly bounty or are some of you trying to actually achieve s-off by using this thread as a sound board for devs..

I know there are a few of you in here who actually know what you are doing and a lot that may not.

If this is strictly a bounty thread it will be moved. If it's an active community project to achieve s-off then we should probably re-label and use the bounty as a secondary topic.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Maliberti:
hold onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] duckfart:
Crap,

That is me above (Maliberti) I found my old log on.

My Vivid will be here tomorrow, put me down for $20.

Thanks.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
Hey all, alert, possible stupid question, but has anyone tried to install the raider's system to the vivid? Or is it possible to use the goldcard method to downgrade the os to an earlier, more exploitable, version?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
Tried it with 2 different gold cards

Sent from my HTC PH39100
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
Honestly, I didn't expect it to be that easy.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] gtkansan:
Its too bad :(. God HTC needs to fix this in a hurry. Im so tired of this bull****.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pside15:
Quoted for truth. I'm considering returning it if something doesn't happen within my 30 days. I got spoiled with my Inspire since the Desire HD development was already established when the Inspire came out.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] MOster:
Hence the time limit on my contribution
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] gtkansan:
I'm so sick of it I'm likely returning tomorrow. Tired of being lied to by HTC.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Apatche69:
I feel the same way right now. However I'm going to hold onto it because it's getting ICS in a couple of months. It may be inconvenient for enthusiasts like us in the short term but things should work out over time. I'll remain hopeful and help out if I can.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
I am on the fence about keeping this as well. Only saving grace that I can see remotely is that it is confirmed to get ICS early 2012, granted if we could get this darn thing unlocked we would probably see functional ports much sooner. I say functional as in running with bugs of course considering kernels and what not but still would be fun to play with early.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
put me up for 50$ if this is done before December with sim unlock

30$ without sim unlock

20$ if after December 1
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
Edit the GDoc w/your info.

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rodger-sp:
Ok I am uping my payment

$100 to the dev that gets

Root so we can remove the blot ware forever.

Not permatemp root

Just pm me with the wining dev and I will donate directly to them.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
@Gleason can you update your post with the link to the google excel doc?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AtLa8Diz1WBcdEt5eG95SEVzdmJTOHBxTVFDYzlqTHc

Thanks
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
the rogers version of the device is unlockable through htvdev.com even though the device isnt listed. When you try to unlock the att counterpart it comes back with a CID error (carrier) I was wondering if unlocking the carrier lock would allow ya'll to use the htcdev website to unlock the bootloader. I read in another forum att would not release the code, in which they sited they were the exclusive carrier of the vivd, and that it would not work on another carrier- which is of course a lie. I came across this http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1741337-UNLOCK-HTC-VIVID-How-to-Unlock-HTC-Vivid-LTE-by-Sim-Unlocking-Code-Pin-Instructions someone with the device please try removing the carrier lock, then trying the same method used to root/ s-off the raider.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] yh823:
Doesnt work tried it. I already have the Carrier/sim unlocked and still cant get the bootloader unlocked by htcdev. Im still getting the error code170 CID crap.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
I think you guys are mixing up unlocking the bootloader with unlocking the sim. I'm hopeful that HTC will eventually allow the bootloader unlock. It took almost a month for the Amaze on Tmobile
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] yh823:
I know what baltimorelizard was talking about. He was saying that a person that already has the carrier/sim unlock try the bootloader unlock since we are getting CID errors under ATT but if we had the SIM unlocked we can be under any GSM carrier. Basically saying that if we have the sim/carrier unlocked we can maybe get the bootloader unlocked like the raider guys since they are not under AT&T.