yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jaymccoubrey:
Nice something to look up to. To bad ill have a different phone by then.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
O I totally forgot to mention! The camcorder almost works.. you know how do you have to lock and unlock your phone to see the camera? It's the same thing for the camcorder, but it doesn't actually record yet.. kind of similar to the panorama, which I can't wait for either!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tburns:
Damn, the end of the world comes before that. Stupid myans anyway.

LOL
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jellydroid13:
lol i think i might pull my tbolt back out again for that :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
I think I can feel a RIL update coming along!!!! Come on data!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wyattn:
What makes you think that? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it, but if you've just been sitting on it....zap boom pow! Right in the kisser! :-)

Assuming a new ril pops up, what does it take to re the functionality out of it. I might have some experience i can lend in that regard a la Ida pro
[Thunderbolt Android Development] brandogg:
HTC announced that the Thunderbolt will be getting an ICS update this year...so now speculation can lie with them, no need to ask for an ETA for data, etc. Could it happen before HTC's release? Sure, but if it doesn't, then it shouldn't be very long after the official update that we get a better (without Sense) update from some xda devs.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
First, you seriously need to spell check. I only understood the bare idea of what you wrote.

And the reason I am making these assumptions is because of how much progress liquid has been making lately. I wouldn't be surprised if data came in within a month.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I don't know. Every claim on data so far has ended in just letting the hype die out and being just as far as we were before. I'm waiting on HTC to release a build with the right radio before I attempt that one.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xxtheantxx:
I've been using twisted for a few months now, and i just ran into a first time boot error that tells me setting has stopped running and when i tap to start setup wizard my phone reboot. does this everytime. anyone else gets this?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
These builds have always had lag problems and a ton of FCs for me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xxtheantxx:
best to keep flashing new compiles then huh?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Well I wouldn't think it would help. I clear everything every time for a fresh install. Its probobly nothing to do with your phone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xxtheantxx:
even clean installs dont work for you??
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
eeyup
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xxtheantxx:
that sucks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
That doesn't make sense. There have only been two strings of bad builds, but even the error on the install with the 0xwhatever should be gone now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Installing is not a problem, its the force closes for gmail, market, boot manager, everything pretty much. Some of it may just be because of the lag its having.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Never mind, I just tried the latest build and it seems a lot faster for me than the last time I tried. The camera works great, however I think the front camera is stretched. When holding it vertical, my face gets fat. When holding horizontal, it gets skinny. Besides that the quality of the camera is top notch! Very exciting!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xxtheantxx:
same here! first boot flawless! thanks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
Looks like something is brewin for data by dv, saw it at rootz. Things may be gettin interesting.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
I was just looking at this, this makes much more excited. However I don't really see this coming in the next week. If anyone wants to take a look at this look up Paullie_Vicious on twitter. It was kinda tricky to find for me.

EDIT: I looked at liquids thread first, then just now found out the link was posted on the root wiki of this thread.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
I got him on twitter, gunna keep an eye on this. A week is faster than verizon would be.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Is this thread going to be closed as well?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Haven't decided yet. This thread isn't 30 pages of pasted material from another thread and here I can lock and unlock my own thread. Might leave this just to provide the links and keep a secondary bugtracker
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DirtyBubble:
Damn its sad to see you close your rootz thread and i hope it comes back... It was the only way I knew how to follow your work because I thought all abandoned xda... Your Rom has been the best and fastest out of all the ics roms and I hope it doesn't vanish. I never did post on the rootz thread and never really did pay a lot of attention to peoples posts except yours so I was confused to why the thread closed.... Also are the other devs refusing to work with you?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
It isn't that they won't work with me. It was that feeling that I work for them. It's seeing claims the RIL was responding then being messaged that my kernel is causing reboot issues (which were actually audio related in system core and frameworks). If you lead off your progress with please donate, then expect to earn it. I'm just waiting for an official radio before I get all beside myself.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DirtyBubble:
I know what you are saying, and it should always be ( If you like my work than consider a donation ) but don't lead with please donate.. And don't get me wrong I do donate and I support it but it shouldn't be a donation to keep someone motivated or they do nothing, if someone wants to dev than do so without the intentions of it being a actual job... But as for ics it doesn't matter to me who gets ril working and donations should be rewarded to who and all that get it working but it should not be a who gets there first gets a grand purse, that just divides the devs and keep them from working with each other. I just hope ril gets going and I will be waiting for your Rom to have it I just hope it gets figured out before a HTC/Verizon release because that most likely won't happen till android 5.0 jellybean is released .
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scook9:
Actually we will probably never see an HTC/Verizon release for the Thunderbolt - they are trying to pretend this phone never existed. All the more reason why this is such an important project for us Thunderbolt owners. The closest thing to an official release we will see is the HTC Rezound which is a similar phone but that is all
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DirtyBubble:
You haven't kept up with the news have ya? HTC has just recently announced on there Facebook and Google plus a few days ago that they will be updating the thunderbolt to ics, although we all know how that Works out because what happened to gingerbread but they dont lie, even of its in a year they will release it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] karthikram93:
Hey twist just about to load up this baby...anything in particular you want me to test? Cuz I'm gonna have it running all night at least
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
See my logic is I know that is coming. But I know it will be Sense. Sense radio works on a CM build. Sense camera doesn't. Instead of starting a riot, ill be ready to port and release without having to revert a week of trial and error first. I am all for them doing it and having something for now but this time I can see the finish line so there is no use cheating to get to it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
So even when DV & Liquid's build have data, yours won't? It could be months before even an "official" leak is released.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I may do a side build to test it but I won't be replacing what I have until I know there is a reason to. Like how camera stayed separate until it was an actual solution and not just a hack.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Microphone was temporarily murdered by friendly fire getting better video but the good news is the video updates took.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
sounds good twisted. sorry for what happend over at rootz keep up the great work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Nothing bad happened. It was just pointless to keep checking up on it. I mean getting side tracked is fine but it looked like the contents of someone's clipboard were on a paste loop. It wasn't doing anyone any good. I think in the last 10 releases there was one comment about the build that thread hosted and 100 that were just overflow from other threads. I realized I didn't get any less done or miss any more issues.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DirtyBubble:
There were a lot of posts about your builds and still though you are right that there were to much discussion of someone else's work and copy & paste from other threads, but mainly because a lot have been waiting so long for some data on ics and are so impatient that the normal and typical thing happened once two devs ( not name dropping ) say that they have working ril. Everyone gets to excited every single time and fill up all ics threads with copy&paste from twitter and so on.. its just a case over excitement
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Twisted ffc was also hit with the update. But the video playback looks Great
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Really? That is actually excellent news. I know what was changed so that may show where to fix it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
This was meant to go here but ended up in desire hd

Also I wonder if anyone kept reading twitter long enough to catch when it was mentioned that it was MIUI with working data. Lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tburns:
Those exact words were not said. But liquid said he had fixed all the RIL errors he had, then dv posted on twitter good things about liquid and for a bomb to drop for tbolt users.

Not sure what all that means except he might have it working, I dunno.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] markalyea2:
I thought the same thing until I saw that is was for his nexus roms. Continuing to follow, he said

"Finally lol... Well now that they are done, I can hopefully finish up the TB later today and get it out to a select few for private testing!"

So... HELL YES!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Glad I could help when I switch to the ffc camera I get no display and if I take a pic. I get an ugly green screen pic. Keep up the great work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
No. No. No. No copy and pasting. This build will be using the official RIL, therefore refrain from discussing DV's RIL.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] markalyea2:
My apologies. But wouldn't it be useless to wait until we get an official RIL? This ROM would surely die before that happens. The thunderbolt is only at "In time" status for when we will get ICS. Android 5.0 will most likely be released in July, and we will most likely be screwed over and not get ICS until next year if ever.

If dev's would quit the **** and work together, we would already have a 100% working Tbolt on ICS... IMHO

Not saying that I don't appreciate his work just that, honestly, who will use a non-data ICS rom to a full (or even partial) data ICS rom?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kidhudi:
we will all have new phones by the time they roll out with an official ICS release.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
You donate to them, get access to these hidden repositories, and ill get you data. Why not quit *****ing at the people who gave their secret build a camera and direct it at the people with a secret build that could have been done already.

Closed until the new build releases.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Arguing about data had no purpose when there was so much work that was more important for the here and now

https://github.com/TwistedPlayground/android_frameworks_base/commits/ics
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
I see that the thread opened back up. The only other thing I saw that was a issue with the last build is the market was all black. Upping the dpi fixed it. Keep up the great work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
Some people just like to cause problems, keep up the great work dude
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Killed my repository with all the changes. Syncing back down to start building. Fingers crossed, dew cube ready. I have three devices that need new builds.

Aiming to get a working camcorder here, working wifi for droid, and fixed camera for desire hd. Not asking too much is it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Not at all wishing you the best of luck will test as soon as build is up
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
not for you twisted :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
A lot of changes that were lost in all the camera excitement were found. It's good to get them in but it is making the process tedious. Hopefully everything is finally settled enough to stop breaking and actually build.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Sounds good I got my self all backed up and ready to go. Keep up the great work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] B3L13V3:
Hey guys new to the party here but after looking thru all the posts I don't see a download link for the latest builds...how are you guys getting them? Is this a private club :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
On the first page there is a link that says download/time stamp click on it, then the picture of a thunderbolt, and then you'll see an experimental and a milestone build, select experimental.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
You got the wrong developer. I don't do private.

builds.twistedplayground.info

Building finally got past the new changes so hopefully I don't have to restart many more times. The good news is I can promise it won't be three weeks from now before I release something but I won't say camcorder is fixed until I know for sure.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] B3L13V3:
Lol I didn't mean it like that sorry, it was a joke :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Question for you guys on this ROM, I searched through and did not find anything on it.

Does video chat/conferencing work? Or is this area related to the camcorder dev'ing?

Reason I ask is because I built a rom for the Incredible S with twisted's source but it seems although camera preview works, video conferencing didn't seem to, so I wanted to check with you guys.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
No, it does not work. It depends on the ability to take video.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
last build I tried the camera worked great it will be awesome to see Camcorder working keep up the great work can't wait for the next release!

Other then anything ril related what is left to fix on this after camera/camcorder work 100%? it seems to work pretty good
[Thunderbolt Android Development] karthikram93:
It's actually kind of weird because I didn't realize how much I hated this secret development technique until twisted's thread over at rootz was closed. I know this may be inconsequential to some, but I like being able to ask questions about what's going on and I like being able to see the progress that's been made every day. It really puts everything in perspective for people like me, whose knowledge of coding is pretty much nonexistent. I think it really promoted a healthier atmosphere and i just want to say good job twisted. Hopefully everyone will realize soon that this method actually promotes harmony instead of inciting arguments.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
So should this new build have a working camcorder. Anything else you want me to test
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
No. Drivers didn't build. Just getting it out of the way for a real test
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Covert Ops trolls are fun. It's like football. You can only choose one team. Yeah, back to reality...

If only I could build multiple devices from a single source at the same time on the same computer. That would be awesome.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Loaded up the last build. Ran great except the cant connect to camera error is back.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Please see above
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Gotcha. Keep up the great work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
Hey twist, on your latest build when you lock your device, the soft key lights don't turn off. Just fyi, besides that everythings working nicely.market 100% functioning on any dpi for me.keep up the great work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
By the look of your github I sense a major over hall comming with lots of different components being merge in. Keep up the great work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Twisted I'm not sure if you did this open purpose. But looking at your github you updated the download page. But the new compile info is not showing and it is still downloading yesterday build. ,keep up the great work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Its probably didn't finish uploading. Need a new compile anyway.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gammaxgoblin:
could the htc ics leaks for the sensation help with the RIL?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
There is no RIL. This is now a tablet.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
Wait, are you being serious or is this sarcasm that HTC is like never going to release the ril?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Go read the last 10 pages and then you will understand
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jellydroid13:
Twisted if some other dev gets the ril working before you will you implement it into your build because yours is by far the smoothest?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
He's stated before that if they get it working, he might implement it as a side build. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jellydroid13:
ok thanks its so hard going back and reading the last 200 posts lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
The latest build doesn't boot up. Not sure what's wrong.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
It booted fine for me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Never mind, Boot Manager turned out to be corrupt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
boot manager doesn't work for me either always gives me error building boot img.. Even though I set it to force large boot img and tried it without it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Kitten Mittens:
If your hands are tied with data, would it be possible to try to get USB host functionality working? This is the one feature I'm most looking forward to in ICS.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Well its okay now, I was able to fix it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Currently isn't possible. That is why CM9 even switched to legacy
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
Did anyone else notice the new FC on the phone? Instead of mobile network not available it says Android phone has stopped working or something.. Also when u reboot ur phone, it says Verizon sso error.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
yes ive seen them in the last 4 builds.

Twisted i see that a new build is being uploading anything you want me to test
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Nothing really exciting, just clean up and fixing settings options to actually display
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Any luck with camcorder yet?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
New build compiling. There will be no update in the links. There will be no release notes. There will only be a post with a link. It's not on GitHub, it has nothing to do with data. I just wanted (just once) to release an update that should make a difference before the code was cherry-picked, relabeled, released somewhere else. I will post the link when it is done compiling.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
Its a shame that you have to go thru that. Thanks for the hard work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I don't have to. I just wanted to because a lot of times I get to read how "person" made such an amazing update and it was great work and I look on git and it's deja vu. I wanted this to be special.

http://db.tt/dAJtkNlG

It's the Milestone build link, but that is definitely a newer build there.

The big thing to test is if the camera works. Not camcorder, but just camera. I did a rework on how it is built and what source it uses. My hope is that is built properly and all the spammed setfd failed messages are now gone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
I can let you know shortly
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Wisdom of words from the master Yoda. Await your insight, we shall.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
It works. And its a lot smoother. Now to fix the all purpose overlay and start moving forward.

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,12793
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Good news and bad. News good news is the main camera runs like a champ. And I love the screen off animation bad news the ffc crashes the camera. Keep up the good work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected Jpeg encoding quality levels 0

damn media profiles.

If you don't want to wait for a build you can always push the attached version
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
We are really just a camcorder away from calling this stable 100% ics (no data)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jlewis894:
Just had to say it was amazing having ics running on my phone....thanks for your ibcredible work!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Ryanmo5:
Amazing man great work! Just got Comic Buddy to show some support its pretty cool, thanks again for your dedication and effort to bring ICS to thunderbolt! :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Lol, thanks. That was my school project last month. I keep forgetting to go back and update the database. Got a little sidetracked.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Doing great bro I hope you are able to get camcorder soon then like you said just need data but I'm sure you can go through and tidy up other code and make stuff run even smoother with your mad coding skillz.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Milestone builds will now also be hosted on rom manager to support ota updates. There still won't be a preinstalled application to reduce the number of items chosen for people, but it is there.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
What do you mean pre-install application and items chosen by people?

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] murdocthc:
New to the bolt scene and just tried this... have to give credit where credit is due... you are kicking serious ass on this twisted! Keep up the great work my friend!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
pre-installed app might be referring to something similar app to PacMan, CM's Package Manager where it bundles the apps an user/device needs depending on build or preference.

That's my hunch, but guess you'll have to wait for him to reply later on it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well I just got done using ics fit like 4 hours I didn't want to go back everything in ics is so much better I don't think I'll use any third party apps except keyboard maybe go sms if I don't like the texting app which I haven't been able to try but man Gmail and all the stock apps are amazing I want to use them all the time hopefully this works 100% soon it's been a long wait!

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt!