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[LG Optimus 2x] rugglez:
Whenever LG makes any post in any of their facebook pages (of any country), it is followed up by hundreds of comments asking only 1 thing: "when is the O2x getting ICS?"

I mean, just look at all the comments below that post! All the same thing!

By seeing this, LG should realise that if they dont do something soon, they are going to lose a HUGE amount of customers (people who know what has happened to buyers of old flagships, plus owners who will have no loyalty to the company at all). I say that because the O2x was a true flagship at its time, sold pretty well (look at the number of complaining users) and most of its buyers are in the upper range segment. LG will lose nearly each one of these buyers soon, if it doesnt release ICS for this phone.

Thus, instead of trying to sell more phones by not providing older phone updates, they are instead shooting themselves in the foot here :rolleyes:
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
I think LG already lost most of these customers :) and maybe they know it and because of it they have no motivation to work on ICS upgrade...in my case LG can release JB for O2X but I still will never buy LG phone again...
[LG Optimus 2x] Pascalwb:
Yes, I bought O2X, good HW etc. If they released ICS in Q2 or earlier i would buy next LG in 2013 (if they don't ignore customers), but NO. No more.

Every comment on their fb is about ics update and, they just ignore it, they ignore potential customers of their next phones.
[LG Optimus 2x] rugglez:
I dont know exactly who is at fault here: LG or NVIDIA. What is in favor of NVIDIA is that there is at least one phone (ZTE Mimosa X) having ICS and running Tegra 2.

What is in LG's favor is that RC has told that LG is equally frustrated with NVIDIA as us, and it is all NVIDIA's fault. Plus, LG has promptly released ICS for all promised non-Tegra 2 phones in Q2.

But one thing is certain: The company which is losing out in either case is LG. Normal customers dont care if the chipset maker is the guilty one, the manufacturer is always the sufferer

(the case may be different for devs and advanced users)
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
If this is nVidia fault, why LG don't simply post on FB: Dear customers we are unable to release ICS because of lack support from nVidia. We are very sorry, but we cannot do more. This will be ok, everyone will know the reason and who is responsible.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Bottomline is: I won't buy any LG device again and will prefer hardware from a company who properly open sources their drivers, like TI.

Nvidia maybe in a Nexus device, but not on another vendor.

My never LG again does imply all of their TVs and Notebooks.

With Nvidia I do like their PC hardware - but any Linux user with a notebook that comes with Nvidia Optimus technology (where Nvidias lack of providing open source code gives them a lot of problems) will probably disagree hehe
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
Speculation that Nvidia is "at fault", at this stage, is purely speculation. The list of upgrades has the 2x next and LG Korea have posted a number of times that the upgrade would be sequential.

If the 2x is skipped in sequence then speculating of an issue with it may be more valid.
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Guys he's right all tegra devices like galaxy r will be getting ics update around quarter 3 and this could be by the end of this month or starting of next..just relax and sit back finger crossed....we will get ics
[LG Optimus 2x] rugglez:
That is not possible, since customers expect manufacturers, especially reputed ones like LG ( :p ) to give out the contracts of manufacturing chipsets responsibly.

If they say its NVIDIA's fault, still people will blame LG because they will say "if nvidia sucks, why did you use their chipset (tegra 2) then? Its still your fault"

Ultimately, i feel that chances of getting ICS are less. Most likely result is that they will keep giving generic replies, postponing it till Q4, and then finally, when hope is almost lost, cancel the update. :(
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Guys whosoever fault it is.....we'll get ics that's for sure...
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
Just don't buy any lg device including there tv and other appliances product to show them that no more customer trusting them anymore, desseminate this information to everyone in the world for them to not mistakenly buy any lg devices or appliances even if the price is cheap
[LG Optimus 2x] hd2000:
I will only blame LG when the Galaxy R update comes out or any other Tegra 2 with same chip.
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
Hm, for me it will be great difference to know that nVidia and not LG is responsible for this situation....in this case I avoid buying nVidia product (or product with nVidia parts) and not LG products....
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
I can see that opinions may vary ALOT.

The ICS delays on LG can maybe be their fault, look that the other Phones, like Optimus Black, Optimus 3D, Optimus 2X.... no ICS at all and no accurate time date for update.

On Nvidia part, the ICS delay can also be their fault, i see alot of variations Tegra 2 chipsets, and since the one used in LG 2X, Galaxy R is maybe a SoC that is causing problems during testing or they even never will release an update because they simply can't do it....

We can only speculate.........:rolleyes:
[LG Optimus 2x] rugglez:
O3d and o black were never scheduled to get ics in q2....so you cant call their update late till its October.
[LG Optimus 2x] loipol84:
I wrote this at 11 of July :

Yesterday HTC cancelled the PROMISED ICS update for DHD saying:

I am expecting LG to come out before 1st of August with the same **** style of anouncement...

But those companies dont understand that bankruptcy is very close when you are mocking your clients....
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
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Wow i must admit, you're good, where did you buy your crystal ball?

On your last sentence i really hope your ball is wrong.... i hope it's a LG Crystall Ball with IPS screen qHD.....:laugh:
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
There are rumors that nVidia don't want provide ICS support for phone version of Tegra for LG for free, and request bigger amount than LG net income from O2X....nVidia already provided some(but very insuficient) documentation of Tegra2 to LG, but LG developers are still unable to implement ICS support correctly....
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
Well in that case we only have Samsung. They have enough money, well enough to buy everything from Nvidia even the Nvidia CEO's underwear. :laugh::laugh::rolleyes: sorry...:o
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
Yeah and source of these rumors?

Enviado desde mi GT-N7000 usando Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 2x] baen:
There are no sources. This is the internet there is always someone saying something like "Oh I'm such a victim of everything, therefore if I bought this phone LG will not provide any kind of updates. Just because I bought the phone" bla bla.

Don't even bother feeding the trolls
[LG Optimus 2x] G1ForFun:
Thread cleaned. Please remain respectful of other members.
[LG Optimus 2x] Timbo925:
Asked LG support in belgium about the the ICS update and got the following message back.

Meaning basically they can't confirm any update ICS for android devices in the Benelux (Belgium and the Netherlands).

Looks like an easy copy paste answer but taught I'll share it anyway.
[LG Optimus 2x] aze2:
Today from LG Canada:

https://twitter.com/LGCanada

https://twitter.com/LGCanada/with_replies
[LG Optimus 2x] CasperHN:
Ouch!
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
I think we need to email the main office lg?
[LG Optimus 2x] blakki73:
Oh sh*t.

Ok we hope that this decision has been taken only in Canada.

Inviato dal mio LG-P990 con Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
That statement is probably for the P999 O2X they use in Canada.
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
Yes you probably right and we dont need to lose hope until no official statement made from their main office
[LG Optimus 2x] TheReino:
ICS

This was posted on the 3rd of July.

I can't imagine that there will never be an update.

https://twitter.com/LG_Mobile_/status/220407193827151873
[LG Optimus 2x] mad_catmk2:
The canadian o2x is p999? Oh the humanity :confused:...

Lets hope for p990 o2x its still ok
[LG Optimus 2x] Tranos:
even if ics is difficult to handle the lg ui and have some issue can they just make a beta ics with hwa sources as did HTC for the desire (not s) update to gingerbread 1 year ago?
[LG Optimus 2x] comzine:
Even if the missing update to ICS is nvidia's fault, why does LG use Tegra 3 for O4x??? There is no reason for doing the same mistake twice.
[LG Optimus 2x] petr.klos:
tauseve Spencer.

Good question. Nvidia hardware is really good IMO. The trouble with drivers... is connected to marketing decisions which are sadly directly influencing managment and RandD policy. Therefore not updating OS seems for some marketers as good way of pushing new phones. The thing that reality is different from this presumption is obvious to all of us but... marketing strategists are cynical bastards - you cannot be suprised by that.

Nonetheless....

We'll see in september if LG is any good. (It is 50-50 for me now. But considering what Motorola did with Milestones .... I am not that optimistic.)
[LG Optimus 2x] bit_imp:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/25/lg-q2-2012-earnings/
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
I do not clearly understand one thing:

In PC area there are drivers for each par of PC directly from manufacturer (binary and/or open source - in our situation we will be happy for binary for O2X). So why there are no drivers for Tegra2 from Nvidia for cpu/gpu and drivers from LG for camera, audio, gps, gsm/3G module? Why we have to wait for whole ROM with lot of other totally stupid sw?

And don't tell me that is so hard to develop ICS version of driver when we have Gingerbread version. The hardware is the same, so there will be maybe few added new functions (or the same functions with modified parameters) in C(or ASM) source code. But these new functions have to be only modified existing gingerbread functions because I think - when the hardware is the same, you can still use only the same functionality as before - are there any list of changes how differently ICS calls cpu/cpu hardware from gingerbread calls? I think average IT student HAVE TO create ICS driver from Gingerbread driver(with source code and documentation access) in 1 month or is totally stupid.

Thx.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Funny side note:

News from 2007: LG’s CEO Resigns Due to Poor Phone Sales

http://gizmodo.com/5640552/lgs-ceo-resigns-due-to-poor-phone-sales

Let's hope all people realize LG's failure and abondon them - and the new CEO has to go, too.

Edit: hahahaha even better, news from today:

LG Electronics' Profit Falls as Mobile Loses Money

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wi...osts-profit-mobile-loss-16850073#.UA_ebbQe5IU
[LG Optimus 2x] Rutifruti:
@ohjuju1234 옵티머스 Q2의 ICS 업그레이드는 현재 적용 테스트중에 있습니다. 만족스러운 ICS O/S를 제공드리고자 최선을 다하고 있습니다. 철저한 사후관리로 고객님께 만족을 드리는 LG 모바일이 되겠습니다.

Google translate :

ICS in Q2 Optimus upgrades are currently in effect during the test. Satisfactory ICS O / S is doing our best to provide. Thorough follow-up management offering customer satisfaction you will be the LG Mobile.
[LG Optimus 2x] wapz:
5 hours ago:

안녕하세요 고객님. ^^ 옵티머스 2X에 최적화된 ICS O/S 환경을 만들기 위해 최선을 다해 노력하고 있습니다. 정확한 일정이 전달되는 대로 추후공지드리겠습니다. 감사합니다.

Hello, ma'am. Optimized for Optimus 2X ^ ICS O / S to create an environment that is working best. The exact schedule will be announced as they are delivered. Thank you.

https://twitter.com/LG_Mobile_/status/228017186009120768
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
I think it's copy paste? But this is a nice news
[LG Optimus 2x] rugglez:
That made my day :D
[LG Optimus 2x] Vidroid:
The not so funny side effects are that they might will be cutting costs. Waving goodbye to any upgrades.
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
Yeah, and more angry customers, drop in sales in next Q, and again, cost cutting, more angry customers, drop in sales and again...and now not again, now bankrupcy (or selling mobile division) Life is good :D

Personally, I don't understand to people who love or hate some tech. companies, but in this case I'm happy that this ****ty company have troubles :)
[LG Optimus 2x] jamez.tankh:
guys, just be patience...

ics is running on tegra 2!!!:victory::victory::victory:

http://bestandroidtips.com/sony-walkman-f800-android-ics-poweredpricespec-features.html
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
And in the end lg company will be bankrupt when this happen many customers will be happy
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Great news...we getting ics for sure
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
Well, i really not sure, but sometimes it's the reverse. Just to give you a direct example, LG sold alot of Optimus Smartphones in the begining of 2011, the costumers who bought them suffered alot just for a update (in our case) to 2.3 Gingerbread, at that time news where spread that LG was really slow on updates making them a brand to avoid to new consumers.At the end of 2011, LG was already getting in trouble with sales. We are at the middle of the year of 2012 and they still can keep up with their job of updating, desappointing again. This is something that LG may have already be aware of.....they really suck on costumer care......They shall update ASAP......well maybe.....:confused:
[LG Optimus 2x] ensboarder:
LG’s Q2 2012 Earnings: $138M In Net Profits, Up 46% YOY, Phone Sales Still Lagging

LG has been turning a corner of late, getting its mobile division out of a six-quarter-long rut. Today’s Q2 report outlines a 46 percent increase in net profits year-over-year at $138 million, though phone sales continue to be an obstacle.

Overall revenues went up from last quarter, but are still down from a year ago. The handset division in particular had an operating loss of $49.5 million, which has a lot to do with the decline in feature phone sales. Smartphone sales, on the other hand, rose to 44 percent of all units sold, which is up from Q1′s 36 percent.

It’s not expected that LG compete directly with the iPhone, but the company has to make a push against other Android competitors. In every review of an LG phone, we’ve been pretty sorely disappointed. Meanwhile, Samsung, HTC and Motorola continue to deliver premium experiences on Google’s mobile platform.

Even so, LG truly does seem to be turning things around, albeit just barely.

Source: Techcrunch
[LG Optimus 2x] loipol84:
They dont care.

HTC is a bad company also but sometimes they show they care about angry customers.

LG on the other hand dont give a damn about nothing
[LG Optimus 2x] darkshot:
I don't know about develop roms. But I believe which is possible porting tegra 2 drivers from others devices. I already saw developers do miracles for Motorola Milestone with ICS.

Sorry, I know which exist many good developers for Optimus 2x, but I think rather than wait something from LG, somebody should trying porting these drivers Tegra 2.

Sorry my bad english.
[LG Optimus 2x] vipaman:
They r waiting for a tegra device with the same chip set that we have to get ICS ....but so far no one has
[LG Optimus 2x] rjjcvb:
And I think that, if there is currently no other device with the same chip set as ours, there never will be;)

(or is there another device with the same chip set as ours?)
[LG Optimus 2x] korgndm:
Ok people, let me give you guys a piece of advice.

Before you go on ranting and asking "Isn't there a device with the same CPU as the O2x running ICS?", the answer is "yes, there is", "oh, so can't the devs port the drivers from such device to our phone?"...well, if you were just plain lazy to read the posts concerning this issue, let me summarize it for you: NO!!!!!!!

Do yourselves a favor: stop trolling around the thread asking these questions before reading previous posts. The answer isn't hidden or coded in some bizare language you won't understand. It's plain english!

Every page you go to, someone asks this question and someone always gives the same answer... Jeez Louise!
[LG Optimus 2x] aldyu:
Galaxy R/Z people are waiting for their update next week.. This could be our hope.
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
I hope their update release soon so developers can use drivers from the update i think it can be port because it has same chip build tegra 2 ventana
[LG Optimus 2x] TheGripper:
Hahahahhaha:D:D This was literally explained just two posts back. It's not going to happen.

The stupidity is too damn high !
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
But it have the same build tegra ventana?

So as like others said developers are waiting at least one tegra 2 ventana powered device so they can port it to our o2x
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
From a post on the LG Facebook post that initially set the upgrade schedule:

"This is what I received form LG support regarding ICS for the Optimus 2X in the UK ' I would like to advise that the Ice Cream Sandwich update will be available from September, unfortunately we do not have an official date for the release as of yet. ' So not much longer to wait, we hope"

Above might have been posted by somewhere here so my apology if it was your post.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rutifruti:
In September???
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
That almost end of q3 what a sh*t however at least we can have the update and developers can finally stabilize there build and start for cm10 for o2x
[LG Optimus 2x] mad_catmk2:
I'm not surprised really, it does fall into 'Q3'...
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
That "sometime" in September for the UK doesn't mean it might not be earlier in other regions. I'd assume it would take some time to roll out.

It sounds promising but a back down is always on the cards. An earlier date is also possible.

I've emailed LG Australia. Hoping for an informative reply - not likely!
[LG Optimus 2x] korgndm:
Well its like this... before posting statements like this, please, and I'm begging you, USE THE DAMM SEARCH TOOL!

Even if a phone has the same CPU as the O2x (I recall the ZTE Mimosa), one cannot simply extract the drivers from it and shove it on our LG.

Still confused? Think of it this way. If you have two computers with Intel i7 processores but different motherboards and different hard drives and different graphics cards (remember... the two PCs have the same CPUs), you cant (and wont) use the same drivers for both.

Hope this analogy clarifies any remaining doubts about the issue.

Sorry about these harsh responses, but the trolling level on the topic is just too damm high.
[LG Optimus 2x] Dnst:
Just posted this in another thread, but I think it will get closed.

Hi this is a statement that was just posted on the official Facebook site of LG Germany:

http://www.facebook.com/LG/posts/10150959202798093

Translation:
[LG Optimus 2x] pioo:
hi, i have a technical question. i understand we are waiting for a piece of code from lg, specifically for our phone.

in what form will it be available, how can i imagine? will it be the part of a precompiled kernel, or kernel modules, or as shared objects on the filesystem somewhere, or loads before the os?

i am working with linux servers, and i'm interested in building a rom just for fun, to see how it works.

thanks
[LG Optimus 2x] elganso:
So it looks we're at the precise point where a leak would be very appreciated, so our kind developers could solve the problems LG can't, and make the stable ICS/JB ROM that out loved company isn't just able to finish :p
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
WTF? I have 2 computers home. One with Intel processor, second with AMD. Both of them have the SAME graphics card (from nVidia :) ). I'm using THE SAME DRIVER for both computers for this graphics card.
[LG Optimus 2x] pioo:
these are integrated little piece of things.

can't think of it like a pc, where you can replace parts.

and nobody told it is perfect. tegra2 has weak points, but fast. and uniqe. thats why we have to wait.
[LG Optimus 2x] korgndm:
I assure you that, since you have the two different brand CPUs, the motherboards are NOT the same. The chipset and architecture are different, as well as the southbridge on the MBs. So trust me when I say you cannot use the same drivers on these two computers, even if everything else is exactly the same.

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I know that using a PC analogy isn't exactly the best one to use, however it might make things easier to explain why porting drivers from one device from another can be so difficult.

But, staying on topic, the Tegra2 chipset is extremely powerful, but the software provided by LG doesn't expolit its full potencial. So we'll just have to wait for an offical ICS version to come out for the devs to make a custom ICS or even JB and unlock the beast hidden within our O2x...
[LG Optimus 2x] kirodge:
SU660 to get ICS with UI 3.0?

I don't understand korean, but my intepreatation of the google translation of a recent twitter post is that SU660 (optimus 2x korean version) is expected to get ICS with LG UI 3.0 (although perhaps without some of the UI 3.0 features).

https://twitter.com/LG_Mobile_/status/228372826544029696

Perhaps someone can give a more accurate translation?

At least some new indication of that LG is still working towards an ICS release for O2X
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
There's some info on LG UI 3.0 here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/lg-ui-3-0-android-ics-skin/

It's definitely intended for ICS and has some cool features.

This is the issue HTC had - they said the current version of HTC Sense gave their customers the best experience and hence no upgrade. If we get the new version of LG UI then the phone will rock.

UI 3.0 includes Quick Memo and:

"-- the ability to unlock the phone by dragging anywhere on the screen;

-- a new Pattern Lock that allows users to preset the most frequently used function, such as the camera, which automatically opens once the phone is unlocked;

-- a simpler version of Optimus UI 3.0 for new smartphone users which organizes the main applications so that they are the easiest to access;

-- a new Voice Shutter that allows users to capture photos using only voice commands;

-- a special camera feature that enables users to pick up the best shot among multiple images including the moment just before the shutter button is depressed;

-- an Icon Customizer that provides an additional level of personalization by allowing users to set their own photos as icons and shortcut images;

-- the addition of a Download category to the menu for easier organization"

ref: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/lg-ui-3-0-android-ics-skin/
[LG Optimus 2x] rjjcvb:
What I meant with: "same chip set as ours" is EXACLTY the same CHIP set, as in "every hardware EXACTLY the same as our device" Which I quote again: At the moment there is NONE that has EVERYTHING the same on the inside!

Before you harshly answer and quote what other moderators are saying to noobs in these forums, try and understand what the other person is saying!

Seems that this give you some kind of satisfaction to quote: Use the damn search tool.

4 kind of persons here.

The noobs

The liars

The experts

The mad type of persons quoting everything here in this forum, to try and stop noobs to ask dum questions.

Well let me tell you one thing, there is no stopping this, because as this is a general topic relating ICS, people will always have questions regarding this issue. There is no way anyone new will go and read the 273 pages of this topic, to try and find his answer. And about the DAMN search button, I have tried putting this text in the DAMN search button: "is there another device with the same chip set as ours?" In this 273 age topic, the search button gave me NO answer!

Thank you for the answers, but next time try and be kind. It is not our fault that you are having a bad day!

Nobody is forcing you to give answers!

IF you want to help clarify something to someone. Help the person with a smile, and not with a angry face. (the thing is if you want to help someone, you are doing this because you feel it is the right thing to do) Again nobody is forcing you.

Calm down and chill man:cool:
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
rjjcvb good to know that we have a person like you here in 2x section

+1 for your concern for members like me that so confuse to other things around here