yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
LMAO'ing is not an opinion. In my "culture" (if you can call it that), LMAO'ing at what someone said, when what this person said is not intended to be a joke, is rude. It would never be me that might have been offended, but the person who was LMAO'ed at.

I only get offended by people whose opinion matter to me.

Still, back on topic, it's unfortunate that nVidia's policy don't allow us to get full featured ICS on our devices until an official ICS ROM comes out for them, but I'm still happy with my purchase. I'll patiently wait for it, temasek's kangs will keep me satisfied till then :)
[LG Optimus 2x] owain94:
Nikon for sure those damn canonist :p
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Can we all start annoying nvidia again untill they release what we need, i really don't think they are going to release anything unless we do.

they told ricardo they would release it early 2012 and its now april.
[LG Optimus 2x] IRASadPanda:
They said Q2 2012 and it's still Q2.

We will most likely get it Q3 though

Sent from Narnia
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
That wasn't the nvidia announcement that was the lg announcement.
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi, bugging NVIDIA might make us feel better, but I'm afraid to say we won't get what we want any sooner. The lesson I've learned from this situation, is simply to avoid manufacturers that aren't as open as we would like.

A more open manufacturer seems to be Texas Instruments, this is from some of the devs I know. I won't buy NVIDIA based tablets or phones in the future because of this. Great hardware speed is useless if the software is crap. Another lesson learned.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Bugging nvidia and making our selves feel better sounds like a good idea to me they promised to release stuff they have not the responces might give us something to talk about and maybe some laughs.
[LG Optimus 2x] tr@p:
HTC Desire (and others) users have accomplished their goal with bugging qualcomm to release adreno drivers. But guess there are more users with some qualcomm 2xx gpu then us with tegra2.

But we should definitely do something about that...
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
That is exactly what we all need to do, send them emails just hassle them till they can take no more and finally give us what they promised.
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Yup I agree. Bugging works. Not sure if bugging alone works though. But bugging along with decrease in sales surely works! Decrease in sales alone might not work also, if they don't know why they are losing sales, so I vote for both!
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Explain it in the emails we should draw up a draft for what we all send eg. Release the tegra hal drivers or we will never buy another nvidia product again and everyone just spams that over and over till we get what we want.
[LG Optimus 2x] nisamtetreb:
They won't release the inner workings of their GPUs that easily. The design cost a lot and the competition could just use the info without releasing anything.
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
If it was as simple as that there would be nothing open source.

It's true that the competition can take a look at their code and use it as "inspiration" for their products, but that also means that they will have the entire world debugging and improving their code. So... you take the good with the bad I guess... and you'll have more happy customers.

Me I just need an e-mail address and to know what would be the most effective message and I will be sure to drop them an e-mail every once in a while!
[LG Optimus 2x] rugglez:
We should start bugging them on all fronts like their forum, email, petition etc.

Have efforts already been made by people before in the above ways? Because if not, this may be a never ending wait :(
[LG Optimus 2x] Tranos:
Hi guys today started the q2 and i hope we see really soon the ics update and mostly the 3.0+ kernel for HWA enable and dont see ics with the same old 2.6+ GB kernel
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Yes we did and we.got them to tll us they would release the sources by early 2012 but after that ricardo asked us to stop and since then we hav heard nothing at all so i think its time we resumed.
[LG Optimus 2x] ergoen:
They never said they would release sources for anything except for the parts where the GPL forces them to?

Are you referring to this:

http://forums.developer.nvidia.com/...vidia-going-to-open-source-the-hal-components ?

It says:

It specifically says binary code and drivers for their reference platforms. This has actually already been released and is mostly useless for our phone.

Or Ricardo's post:

https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/9nb8sajTX18

It basically links the the nvidia forums one.

Nvidia has never released anything in source form except the stuff they absolutely have to even for their pc-graphics cards, I don't really see why everyone expects them to behave differently with regards to tegra? Ricardo has already been in contact with some people there and there's clearly some lawyer-stuff stopping the engineers from releasing code. Spamming the engineers will not change that, it will only make them angry with the community. (And how is that good?)
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Well if they wont release anything then why should we care hm?
[LG Optimus 2x] Pumaoro21:
Never buy a LG but is a good phone with bad support
[LG Optimus 2x] icyeye:
well... for desktop graphic i am ATI fan..but, no mather which sellers block our gadgets to progress only bcs..they are scare about some wierd explanation about it... i will never buy phone with Nvidia again. thats for shure.

hope u understand what was mine point..sry on word mistakes and i am for some pressure on NVIDIA...

i am rly tiread how big company use word for their explanation about this and that. its damn politicy...
[LG Optimus 2x] Pumaoro21:
yes nvidia is so bad qualcomm is released the drivers of ics but nvidia :( but we wait 2 or 3 months more
[LG Optimus 2x] Eyekool:
Well, I do not mind waiting for another 2 months, just hope they will release it.
[LG Optimus 2x] RichJo86:
According to the info graphic below the update should be coming Q3 (August)

I was thinking about the HTC One X to replace my O2x, but indeed I'm not a Tegra fan in this case. If Nvidia releases the drivers/sources so CM9 could be completed we are happy, it's so simple ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] Eyekool:
Our O2X in last place... :(

Shame on NVidia & LG :p
[LG Optimus 2x] jay_snake:
That info graphic doesn't mean a thing. S2 & Sensation already have ICS and in that info graphic it says may/june. The whole thing is a wild guess
[LG Optimus 2x] tr@p:
Actually, by this graphic S2 and Sensation got ICS in march... but I hope that this about O2x is not a true... who will wait till august?
[LG Optimus 2x] xilw3r:
all of us will wait till august (or even more)

because we can do absolutely nothing more about it.

btw my own predictions for getting ics would be around december- a year since the "gingerbread" update (froyo based and with froyo kernel .....right... gingerbread)
[LG Optimus 2x] V.Dragos:
i wouldn't be surprised if the official ICS will be worse than what we have now.. still we need a official ROM to unlock some features
[LG Optimus 2x] rottenpenguin:
wait until November

The GB Update was also promised in 2011Q2, but only came out in 2011Q4, so I would bet on November...
[LG Optimus 2x] slebit:
I will not be a bit surprised if the ICS update is postponed to q3 or q4. We have seen how lg has been handeling this before.
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
LG makes promises it doesn't keep.

I have a very uncomfortable feeling that any phone with a Tegra 2 which only has 512MB of memory will not get ICS. An indication of this is that the Motorola phones which have a Tegra 2 and only 512MB of memory are not definitely scheduled for upgrade to ICS, they are under consideration but there's no commitment to upgrade them. Motorola is being purchased by Google which may provide ICS but I won't bet on it.
[LG Optimus 2x] langhaardack:
LG says the only reason why updates take so long is that they dont want to deliver incomplete/unstable updates. So if those people testing stuff arent happy LG ignores the planned releasedate and works on on the update...
[LG Optimus 2x] nexus2515:
Hey, i was thinking that we didn't had HW acceleration in GB, but still the video recorder did worked...

Now we don't have Drivers for HW acceleration

So what if LG or Nvidia don't release drivers for HW acceleration, why it's affecting video recording ?

Cant we use it GB way?
[LG Optimus 2x] xtrustkillx:
LOL made my day
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
Makes sense, but it'd be much better if they could be clear to the developers about the progress of their ICS builds like Sony. They've been very informative towards developers, and has so far released two official betas for their 2011 Xperias. They also went as far as clearly saying that the 512mb of RAM in their smartphones is below the 1gb standard of ICS. Qualcomm in the other hand has released their GPU drivers, and we all know how much of a help that is for devs.

I know that's all to much to ask from LG and Nvidia, but all they have given to us is only a "Late Q2" promise.
[LG Optimus 2x] xilw3r:
this has been said before:

512 mb of ram is NOT an issue to have ics. samsung nexus s also has 512 mb of ram and also the SAME ammount dedicated to gpu (128, was it ?) and still has ICS.

so dont panic about ram. you simply need to somehow find the patience to wait untill 2013 for the freakin ics which will probably still be based on 2.6.32 kernel.
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
I didn't say it wasn't enough, it simply is below the official ICS RAM standard which is the 1gb in the Gnex. And ICS was built with that in mind. Also Sony was clear about the reason of saying that; and HW acceleration is one of them.

We've had ICS builds for sometime now, and I do agree that the RAM use is heavier.
[LG Optimus 2x] r00t4ev3r:
I opened a new thread at the Nvdia Forums: http://forums.developer.nvidia.com/devforum/discussion/6706/please-give-us-the-hal-compontents

I know my english is bad, but if we work together we can maybe win.

Just open new threads like mine at the Nvdia Forums :)
[LG Optimus 2x] crazy_dj:
I also replied because I just couldn't take it anymore and I wanted to make it clear :D
[LG Optimus 2x] thedicemaster:
you're mixing up 2 types of hardware acceleration.

in 2.3 and older only the media hardware acceleration was actively used, which allows us to record and play 720p+ video files, and use heavier codecs such as H264.

there was very little hardware acceleration for the android interface and applications.

now in android 4+ hardware acceleration is used for a lot more parts of android, however on this specific rom the media part of hardware acceleration is broken limiting us to only simple codecs that don't allow for efficient high-res video playback/recording.

video recording is still possible though, as long as you use a recording app that relies on software encoding.
[LG Optimus 2x] Evil_enc:
everyone should make an account and start a new thread or add a comment. so that we at least get some new information about the process they are making.

i've send an message to andrew edelsten, too

http://forums.developer.nvidia.com/devforum/profile/33/Andrew Edelsten

everyone should register and send him a message and comment on the threads or even start new threads.. because they are not answering existing threads there :mad:
[LG Optimus 2x] rugglez:
A good initiative, I posted a reply too. We should keep posting so that that thread stays on top of the forum page, keep bumping it up!
[LG Optimus 2x] r00t4ev3r:
I also wrote an email to 5 big Androidsites, maybe they write something about our Problem or tweet something.I hope we can win against Nvidia :p
[LG Optimus 2x] Zorkman:
excellent!

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I agree,

but please remember:

KEEP IT CIVIL AND POLITE

(typing in caps and bold like me won't help :))

We don't want them to see us as nagging children, but as polite adults with a reasonable request (request, not demand, they don't have to do anything).
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Totally agreed, Zorkman. I will be joining you guys this weekend.
[LG Optimus 2x] rugglez:
I see what you mean, i see some childish comments there :D
[LG Optimus 2x] r00t4ev3r:
Maybe some more people should write a little text to an Androidsite, because than is the chance that they write an Articel is higher. I don't know whether one person can achieve something, these sites are very big.
[LG Optimus 2x] hd2000:
All tegra device owners and not just the O2x should make a joint effort against nvidia
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Tegra 2 chips are not all the same. There are many different topologies. Each manufacturer does different things.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] el_charlie:
+1,

But according to many sources the platform in our 2x is very similar to the development platform. That should make easier to nvidia to release the binaries.
[LG Optimus 2x] hd2000:
Has any tegra 2 device received ics yet? Though the devices differ we can still pool together and make a lot more noise.
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi, the ASUS Transformer has received an official ICS update.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
In fact, the Transformer Prime was the first to get an official ICS update, besides the Galaxy Nexus, of course.
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi, I thought this was a thread about Tegra 2, not Tegra 3.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] Barnabe619:
Asus transformer (tf101) use tegra 2

Asus transformer Prime (tf201 + eeepad 300 + tf 701) use tegra 3
[LG Optimus 2x] langhaardack:
What just came to my mind:

To all those nVidia-haters, thanks to nvidia our phone is virtually unbrickable. you can always nvflash it. i think that feeling of safety is worth a lot. ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] Zorkman:
I don't think anyone is unhappy about the features or power of our phone.

There is I think a general consensus that the hardware is pretty great (for that price).

All the frustration originates from the fact that this product could be a LOT better if the software was of equal quality.

Sadly enough LG software sucks. CM is great but can't do a lot of things without some information.

I'm sure NVIDIA is (rightfully so) proud of their Tegra 2, but if they allowed us, the developers could really show the world what it's capable of.
[LG Optimus 2x] el_charlie:
Totally agree,

But the lack of NEON instructions is kinda stupid. Many good apps can't run on tegra 2 hardware.

I know, including those instructions would made the SoC a lot bigger, but in many apps we're paying the price.

Also in many other aspects the other dual core platform are better.

Of course, I'm still very happy with the hardware and I wish that lg releases ICS with the aosp look like they did with the g2x and GB.

That would be easier to do (not to port their crappy UI) and consumes less time. Also, the CM team could have the components they need for cm9.

Like I said before, I really like their desktop products (with respect to the AMD fans, the Radeons are great cards too) but dislike their mobile business.

After seeing the Transformer Prime in action (a coworker has one), is not as smooth as the iPad 2 (not even mentioning the new). Of course I can do a lot more of things than the iPad, and I love that (Android FTW), but the SoC is not the best of the best like NVIDIA claims.

Maybe if they apply their Kepler architecture like they said they will, we can have a great product.

Just my two cents.
[LG Optimus 2x] wapz:
NEON is the new MMX. I had a pentium 166 without MMX and a friend had a 200 MMX, and that sounded fantastic. I totally fell for the Intel marketing. NEON is a shame but not a big deal. Ok, video decoding is worse. Get over it :)
[LG Optimus 2x] r00t4ev3r:
I received a answer from an Androidsite! They will write an article about this! :)

German:

English (Google Translator :D):

greetz!
[LG Optimus 2x] Tranos:
Hi guys i just found a report about optimus 4x (the new flagship of LG) about its performans but my eye went in something intresting and i wanted to discuss this the new optimus has 2.6.39 kernel so i think that its not more space for us optimus 2x users
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
Wow that's terrible. Wasn't the 3.0.y kernel sources just released a while ago? Even our own developers has managed to port the thing over.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Exactly, they ported it, it still has all the "limitations" of 2.6.32, just a higher version number.
[LG Optimus 2x] Zorkman:
That's great news,

maybe you can ask Ricardo Cerqueira if he want's to add something to the article?

I think he knows best what is needed and will be able to phrase it correctly

you could send him e.g. a twitter message or something on google+ (because I don't think he really follows the topics on XDA anymore, maybe rootzwiki...)

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Apart from NVIDIA,

shouldn't be we trying to contact LG (mobile) as well?

any suggestions?
[LG Optimus 2x] r00t4ev3r:
I will contact him when i'm back at home :)

I think we should contact lg mobile, could someone do this? because i have not much time at the moment (shopping with girlfriend :D) and my english isn't very good.

Edit: Till i'm at home could you and some others contact him via twitter/google plus? Just send him my post ("i received a answer..." ) The best thing would be to have these information(s) as soon as possible.
[LG Optimus 2x] langhaardack:
I can contact whoever is to be contacted, i guess my english is sufficient. I'm also writing French. Saying "writing" cause my pronounciation simply sucks. :D

Bugged several LGE Germany support-workers yesterday. :P
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's to be expected considering the limited souces from Nvidia, no?
[LG Optimus 2x] Zorkman:
Good news, he is willing to help. I think he can bring much to the table and is best suited to answer most of the questions.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Indeed, what I'm saying is bigger number doesn't mean it's any better.
[LG Optimus 2x] kitty's_daddy:
Optimus4x has snapdragon because it is LTE phone.

There is no APU has dual band except snap.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
The 4X is Tergra 3, the D1L is Krait.
[LG Optimus 2x] kitty's_daddy:
Hi. Rusty. I'm very glad to your reply. :D

You're right. I was confused with D1L.

But I think Optimus4x won't be flagship.

It will be just first 4core phone has no more nothing like o2x.

Galaxy S3 will has 4core and support LTE.

LG bets all of them to LTE, now. So I think D1L will be LG's flagship. :)

PS: I remember your kind reply when I was new member at here.

I think you are a respectable dev. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] Eyekool:
I just sent an e-mail to the local LG customer service, they should respond within 24 hours, I hope they will, with some positive news/info.
[LG Optimus 2x] IRASadPanda:
The ported 3.0.x kernel still has many things from the 3.0.x kernel. Not just a version number.

Sent from Narnia
[LG Optimus 2x] grognaz:
Dont get your hopes up, they will tell you anything to get rid of you. We seen that happening for all the time we waited on gb...
[LG Optimus 2x] Eyekool:
I do not expect much from them, for starters i wanna see how will they respond. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] botay.alls:
I just read a newspaper about ICS for LG O2x. the link: http://translate.google.com.vn/translate?hl=vi&sl=vi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsohoa.vnexpress.net%2Fsh%2Fdien-thoai%2Fung-dung%2F2012%2F04%2F3b9b5e34%2Fnhieu-smartphone-tam-trung-duoc-nang-cap-len-android-4-0

What do you think ?
[LG Optimus 2x] xtrustkillx:
If i understand that correctly the article says just that they have flashed cm9 rc0.
[LG Optimus 2x] r00t4ev3r:
That sounds good, now look how long it takes until we finally have ICS
[LG Optimus 2x] Magiya1988:
Anyway we are waiting too long for the ICS. But I like LG a lot more than Samsung.
[LG Optimus 2x] Marteen4:
NVIDIA Tegra DRM support

Hi everyone, this is my first post i have been following this forum since May.

I found something that maybe can help with the ICS Rom, i'm not sure.

Anyway, here is the link :): lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2012-April/021223.html

EDIT: Since i dont have enough post, i couldn't paste this like a link, sorry everyone :S
[LG Optimus 2x] Eyekool:
So, you were absolutely right :(

They replied, upgrade to ICS is planned but they do not know release date yet (i wonder, if they dont know then who does).
[LG Optimus 2x] ktxed:
hint: 2013
[LG Optimus 2x] Donluan:
I put this ROM NOVA HD but after that my device does not connect again, the boot is on the screen and not leave, someone knows how to solve this?
[LG Optimus 2x] YouBou1992:
LG Support

Okay so i contacted the Norwegian LG support and told them about our case..

They said that they are surprised that i was able to get Android 4 on my device and said then started telling bull**** like: "If you root your mobile phone you don't have any support anymore" and **** like that. They also said that they don't know when ICS is coming yet.. they also said: "There will be a press release on our facebook and website when we're close to releasing ICS for the LG P990 (O2X)"
[LG Optimus 2x] r00t4ev3r:
I'm not sure, maybe you have to convert your Filesystem back to ext3 with this program: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1021549

Then flash the rom again.

Or go to CWM and wipe your data, dalvik cache and flash the ROM new without this program.

Or try to put out your battery and put it in again, then try to start
[LG Optimus 2x] langhaardack:
CM9 is EXT4, so using back2ext3 is senseless. you should rather use the O2X-nullifier or format everything manually and then flash your ROM.
[LG Optimus 2x] r00t4ev3r:
I was not sure whether cm9 is ext4 or ext3, thank you ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] batman1908:
we have the best value for money cell phone and Lg doesnt support it,how tragic is this?I've started to feel a bit jealeus for samsung support...
[LG Optimus 2x] Eyekool:
LG will support/upgrade it, they just dont know when exactly :D
[LG Optimus 2x] BUFUMAN:
LG does know nothing!

and this will be my last Nvida phone

LG= LIES GOOD
[LG Optimus 2x] owain94:
why blame nvidia if lg is the big problem?

and why does lg know nothing?

they know more then you do

and they can make way better things then you can
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
He was actually correct and i think he was speaking of the customer service they don't know

ANYTHING

before the company does not tell them anything all they know if what we know from announcements so no lg doesn't know more than we do.

Nvidia don't open their sources so why you surprised by hate for nvidia and the hate for lg.
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
"LG" is the company. The customer service isn't LG, they're part of LG. If you say LG, of course you can only refer to the company as a whole.

He isn't surprised. He's just fed up of people dissing and bashing, without actually doing anything. If you don't like something, change that yourself. You get nothing by whining.
[LG Optimus 2x] Dimitris CH:
It´s not tragic, it´s normal.

The 2X price went doooooooown because of the lack of support.

If the support had been OK the price would have been steady.
[LG Optimus 2x] raf2k:
The prices went down because of all the problems.

ICS is a **** anyway so you dont have to be jealous.

My SGS2 is much stable and faster on GB ROM than ICS.
[LG Optimus 2x] grognaz:
Well this is not sgs2 and so far ics is by far the smoothest ive seen on o2x.
[LG Optimus 2x] DLloyd:
Once the O4X HD is released hopefully a dev will port the UI on top of CM9, meaning no (long) wait for an official release for the O2X.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
we will still need the drivers. From an official release or sources from nvidia....
[LG Optimus 2x] nicola07:
good news? developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Omg im pretty sure thats it, devs confirm?
[LG Optimus 2x] Marteen4:
I'm pretty sure thats not even Android.
[LG Optimus 2x] nebregg:
It is Linux for Tegra. Think that the devs can nothing with this!
[LG Optimus 2x] IRASadPanda:
What do you think android is based off of? Derp.

Sent from Narnia
[LG Optimus 2x] grognaz:
Lawl;)