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[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
Thats exactly what I was saying.. I was hoping that the dev site would allow us to unlock the bootloader since the AT&T restriction (which according to them is not there-LIARS!) hopefully would have been lifted.

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I'd get the phone myself and have a crack at it, but I'm currently boycotting HTC devices because of three reasons;

1. because attn1 said so.

2. The promise made by HTC's CEO with regard to developers and their bootloaders

3. see number one listed above, as if I needed another reason.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Because attn1 said so? Haha that's really funny. Idk what's worse....being a isheep and buying every new product that apple comes out with or not getting a phone because of one person in a fourm. I totally agree with your second reason tho. Picked up mine on launch day and haven't looked back ever since. In due time the phone will have its bootloader unlocked.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
Well I guess that makes me an attn1 sheep? LMAO! I'm sure someone will crack it, or HTC will come to their h-t-c-senses (haha play on words) and allow us to unlock it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dagnus:
Tbh, attn1 saying something is pretty damn valid. The inspire wouldn't be quite where it is with out him and god knows how many other devices he's cracked open, or helped crack open. But still, it is valuable to formulate ones own opinions.

That being said, HTC and att need to get their crap together on this phone. After an hour of being on the phone with att and HTC last night, its come to my attention that it's most definitely an att issue, as they're treating the vivid like an iPhone, in the sense that its a proprietary device strictly for att.. which I was able to get from ts3, to be a bunch of horsespoop.

So for now, unless someone or some group cracks it open, we will just have to wait. I do feel that its easily the best device that att offers right now. IMO: eff the skyrocket.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
In complete agreement with you on that. I was going to get the skyrocket, but I couldn't suppress my gag reflex. The phone is overpriced, and feels way too cheap. Just saying.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] capman231:
Isn't the Skyrocket an AT&T proprietary device to? I think it's unlocked from the mfg.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
True true...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
Not really. It's nearly identical to the Tmobile gs2 internally

Sent from my HTC PH39100
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] GSLEON3:
I am in no way knocking attn1, I respect him. Mostly because he started as I did and learned what he knows I just like the old timers did. I was around (used to be able to have different accounts at xda) when Buzz and others were working on ppc2003.

I have questions in pm's from attn1 from back in the windows mobile forums.

However, the phones always get unbricked & unlocked regardless. Attn1 it's bright, but as always at XDA, where one fails, another steps up.

Android is new to me, but learning and trying, it's just in my nature. I'm contracting Jockey & Viper, whom both know more about firmware than attn1, myself and probably all of us combined.

Search, you will see Vipervjk was working on firmware unlocking of devices, including stb's, for over a decade. Same with Jockey Wilson, firmware engineer.

I had a small breakthrough yesterday & partially unlocked the nand. Of course my phone is stuck in loop now, but I will get pay that as well.

Btw, I got a galaxy nexus yesterday and am really disappointed. Vivid is still number 1.

And for the guy that said "because attn1 said so"; this is at heart a development forum. When somebody says no or that it can't be done, we rise up and do it anyway. If you don't believe in that, I am certain the iOS forums are missing you. :p
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mohsinkhan47:
Do u mind sharing what u discovered?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
I'm glad so many good folks are working on this, but to clarify, I never said it couldn't be done. I just was trying to be a part of the group to send a message to HTC and call them on their promise to developers to release and free their devices from the locked bootloader. I'm not one to speak for other dev's but I don't think attn1 said it either, just that he thought it was ridiculous that the raider is unlockable through htcdev.com, and the vivid was not.

I know from personal experience though, that when somebody tells me I can't do something, it does make me more determined to do it anyway. My hats off to you all for taking on this project.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
+ $150

Also, I feel some clarification is in order. Part of S-Off, is that the NAND is unlocked, also, if the NAND is unlocked, then we can do whatever we like with the bootloader. Also, it is my understanding, that the bootloader unlock, is the equivalent of S-Off.

Edit: I have also registered ##htc-vivid, and ##htc-holiday channels for this, on freenode.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
Bootloader unlock is NOT equal to S-off. W/out s-off, you'll not be able to write to /system so hosts file mgmt will be tedious. I had to integrate them into /system /etc then reflash to update them on my old Aria.

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
this is false.

please read:

http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/faq
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
So I stand.... correct! :)

I'm of the S-Off era, I've only ever really rooted my Evo, and that was right around the time that S-Off was coming around, so I never have really investigated all of the details of the bootloader unlock. Playing catchup with all of the current rooting stuff.

Someone should probably go hit up mattmastracci, and employ his vast knowledge, I wouldn't know what to ask.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] saywhat4118:
Is the bounty still going on?? If so I'll pitch in 10 bucks. Just picked up a white one.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
as far as I know yes, you might want to check out here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AtLa8Diz1WBcdEt5eG95SEVzdmJTOHBxTVFDYzlqTHc

The bounty is getting pretty serious.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] saywhat4118:
Hmm how do you participate? Just edit myself and type in my condition? I don't have any. I just want this bad boy rooted and get cm7/9 on it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
there are a lot of people that are not in there why???

im not there and i offered 50$

????????????

who is in charge of that????
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] MOster:
You are. You do it yourself.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
that's how its gonna be?

i see where this is going

nowhere
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
Its a self edited document. U made.it just to tally and keep track.of the running totals and.conditions if any.

Drew
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
yes i know but if you check all the posts we have some ppl missing from there is better if the person that opens the thread keeps track of all the donations

if you check the title it says 380$

when is a lot more

im just saying
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] duckfart:
Ok.

I am still in it for the $20 for the unlock but I just sold the phone and getting a Samsung SkyRocket

Good Luck.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
I feel so bad for you. :P

We should probably run through, and update it, and possibly add a little clarity at the same time. If noone's done it by this afternoon, then I'll go through and clean it up.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] gtkansan:
Well im still in it, but Im returning mine in the morning for something else.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
That's why I feel bad for you. The phone does have a bit of an acquired taste though.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
Updated. However this is really built for self service

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AtLa8Diz1WBcdEt5eG95SEVzdmJTOHBxTVFDYzlqTHc
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] gtkansan:
Love the phone. Need full root though.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] MOster:
Dude, people should just buck up and effing do it themselves. It makes the commitment more real. It's easier to click through the link and add your name than it is to type a reply into this (easy) interface.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
suggestion, when someone commits to a donation to the bounty they post to this thread the amount of said donation AND that same someone also adds it to the excel doc. Just to keep track of who's contributing what, and to validate entries to the online spreadsheet.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
I also have to feel bad for you considering I did the same thing and still wound up coming back to this phone because of the horrible banding and blobbing that you see on dark screens. It is REALLLYYYY BAD. Either way good luck hopefully you get one of the good ones even though they are far and few between from what I have seen over there.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] saywhat4118:
I have a skyrocket and it is really bad. I also have the white vivid and man it is beautiful. Plus the screen doesnt have any banding issues.

Just donated
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
Ok, let me state my position on the GDoc:

Yes, the GDoc is great, and Yes, you should add your contribution yourself, but since it was added half way through, and is not obvious that that is where you contribute, unless you've read the entire thread (since I know alot of people aren't), I was simply stating that it should be cleaned up, and updated, giving a fresh start, after which, anyone that wants to put in, should add it them selves.

(^^ My longest run-on ever. :) )

Also, we should make the link sticky.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
I have asked in thread and PMed the thread starter however he has not edited the first post yet.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
Ok, well the doc's good now, (and up to a hefty little amount), so back to the rooting. Any body had any progress on this? I'm reaching out to my friend Matt, to help me out, but I really don't know enough to get anything really done myself.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
Well I left the boycott and I broke down and ordered one, I won't get it until the 28th but if it's not cracked by then I'll have a try at it. I just couldn't pass up on a free vivid, so when AT&T offered me one, I accepted.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
Why the frak did you get a free Vivid?

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Sorry, all, if I'm treating this too much like IRC with all the back and forth.

Anyone interested in exploring it through me, is welcome, I need to learn some of this stuff anyway, beyond just using adb. If anyone on here (lizard..), wants to get together, and explore the vivid, let me know.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
hah why or how did I get a free one? Worst case Scenario, I'll unlock the simlock and sell it on ebay.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
Skyrockets in flight, afternoon delight. Sorry all, couldn't resist.

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well crap, I guess I shouldn't have mentioned I got a freebie. My inbox has just been hit up with questions.

To all who are wondering how to get a free HTC Vivid from AT&T,

step one, go back in time to 1998.

Step two, Contact AT&T and sign up for a business account

Step three, keep your account current for 13 yrs.

step four, now that you are in the present again because you waited 13 yrs, contact them again and inquire about getting a free vivid for testing because you are considering replacing some of the devices in your company. They will JUMP at the proposal.

minus the going back in time part, this is what I did. But if your not me,

go check this out. http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B0061QN41Y

I know i know, it's not exactly free through amazon, but your only other option at the moment is to follow the guide above. I think you'd have better luck paying the penny and getting it through amazon.

Update- 11/22/11

AT&T just Emailed me the shipping info, apparently they drop shipped the device through fedex air. So I should get it very soon, I look forward to having a go at cracking this beast.

Anyone had any luck/breakthrough's recently?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
I had a breakthrough in that I talked to a friend of mine (matt), and got some advice for getting started with the true rooting stuff, so I suppose I'll be kicking around at it, don't expect much more than a fumbling w1z4rd with a new wand though :P
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
Ok, I'm starting to look into things. I have big launch at work tonight though, so I have to work all day. As soon as I finish, I'll get to work on this again. If anyone could manage to get temp root, and give me a dump of the bootloader (.img, I haven't temprooted yet, but simply doing cat /dev/block/<bootloader_device>, should work). Also, if it's easier, doing a dump of the entire phone would be really great, just do something like cat /dev/block/mmcblk0 > output_file.img and then upload the .img somewhere. I'll start on this tomorrow, or over the holiday weekend.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
PirateGhost provided on in this thread-----> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1341675
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
snag the RUU.exe and pull the rom.zip out of it. all the untouched .img files are there for you to play with. they are the exact same thing as what shipped on the device. i have already used the official ph39img.zip on my phone so i know its good.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
now this is getting interesting we just need this to be publish in the home page
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Happy Thanksgiving!

I just spoke to Evil_DevNull on twitter (@Evil_DevNull) and I think he would be the one able to complete this task. The only issue right now is getting him the device. Maybe we could use part of the bounty to donate a device to him. What are your opinions?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
I'll give one of my upgrades to someone trying to hack this. PM me.

I'm guaranteed a Vivid for $99.

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
ill buy you that vivid for 300$ what you say????????
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Sent you a pm Redneck
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
So you rather buy that vivid for 300 instead of getting it donated for development?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
I'm sorry if my post was confusing, I don't currently have one but will give up my upgrade to whomever needs it to hack on. If folks wanna pool monies, I'll order and have shipped to the dev needing it.

I don't want to get one for myself until it's hacked and development is goin on.

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
ill pay the 99$ you can send it to the dev as soon as he is done he can send it to me.

how is that?

if anybody else can get vivids for 99 or 199$ and if there are more devs that want to take the challenge.

i will buy the units , the units can be send to the devs they work on them and then they can send them to me, as long as they keep it in perfect shape.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
I don't know your angle, but I imagine that you're building a bit of bed favor.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
i have a store here in costa rica and i sell htc only

i know im gonna cell many htc vivids thats why i dont mind if i but 10 units and they are send to the devs to crack the software, and then they can send them to me ill pay for the postage.

let me know.

only recognize devs that at the end they are really gonna send the device back to me in perfect condition.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ceo.mtcl:
Please delete me from the bounty list. Im going back to gs2.

Thanks!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] GSLEON3:
Hmm...

I don't know about that. Traditionally here at XDA, if you want to lure developers into participating in your cause, the device becomes an added incentive to them. After unbricking 100's of Kaisers, the TouchPro group donated me a device to ensure that I would focus future attention to unbricking TP's, and then the same for the Tilt 2.

If someone users their upgrade, even if you paid the $99, based on current no-contract pricing, 4/5 of the phones value still is due to the gent that used his upgrade.

That being the case, on top of your statement of retailing the device, I think you'd have to ponny up more than $99 to be honest.

Plus, I don't recommend sending anyone a device until we hear something from ViperBJK. Most everyone's work, wether they know it or not, is based on Viper's work over the last decade. He is truly what you would term a "Firmware Engineer". Even Jocky would tell you that he's learned a lot from Viper.

Viper, even if he did not participate or have a device, would be able to tell us where to focus and if it is even possible without jtag.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
100% agree with you there!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] elmanortega:
thats why i said 99$ or 199$ i dont mind

ill pay 300$ for a brand new device.

as long as the dev send it to me in 100% good shape
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
Ok, fine, thats all well and good but,

If you pay 300,

the dev gets the phone and unlocks/roots the device,

ships the device to you and you sell the device at retail, you are making a 200% profit off the guy who used his upgrade to get the device for you.

Who would agree to that? it is one thing to donate a device to a dev, that is beneficial to all of us, it is kind of payment for his/her time. But for a third party to offer what you are proposing, is, well, ridiculous.

So as I previously mentioned, I agree with GSLEON 100%

It is a 549.99 dollar device, Your math doesn't add up.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
How could we in contact with Viper?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Anyone??? We need to get the ball rolling on this if we're going to send out a device to a dev. We need to stop waiting and relying on HTC and make it happen ourselves. The longer it takes to get permaroot, the more people we will see go.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Ghostello88:
What the hell? LOL. Are you even serious? You know there is a MARKETPLACE on this website, right?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
well, I finally got AT&T's ear.

After complaining LOUDLY on twitter, they asked that I email them with details of my issue.

You can view what I emailed them, HERE
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
Por favor, post the response when you get it! I really want to see how they try and squirm outta this!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
well they've replied asking for my phone number and a good time to call...

We'll see what sort of double speak I get... but for now, I am encouraged.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
Record the call and post teh audio file. min.us is a free host
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Chr0nicDreamz:
Tmo is onboard with me jumping ship lol
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
How do you guys feel about donating some of our bounty money to the best possible dev to unlock it for us? Why should we wait on HTC? I feel that is our best option right now...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pside15:
If we can get this setup I will throw in $20 for a device for a dev.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
I've been saying this since last week lol.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ronnie498:
There are a couple of devs who could get us perm root but one of them says to boycott.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
He, attn1, says there's no exploits available and that we shouldn't have to be looking for one after the CEO's announcement.

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ronnie498:
Just trying to stay positive theres always hope.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
But isn't the Evo 3D very similar and they got root on it?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] silver03wrx:
Yes you are 100 percent correct i had an evo 3d and right before it was available for purchase people found out the boot loader was locked. Someone started a petition to htc got a ton of signatures and everyone trolld there facebook hard and they released that statement about no longer locking bootloadrs 2 days later. Then they put up he htcdev unlock
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] walkerkd:
Someone start a petition and add to google doc or something
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
SIGN HERE
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] akcooper9:
signed!!!!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] saywhat4118:
Signed.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ysr84:
signed and forwarded to a friend to do the same
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
It really looks like it is just up to us now. OP, can we get the ball rolling on sending a Vivid to the best dev we choose???
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
Has a (known) dev stepped forward saying he is willing to give it a try if he's given a device?

edit: I'll send him my device to use and if he's successful he can collect his bounty and send me back my device
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
evildev null said after they hack several other devices...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Yea... but who knows how long that will take. Time isn't something we can take for granted. :(
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rodger-sp:
I am pulling my part left the vivid over the IQ.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
He/They don't need or want our money, the do it just because. If you can send your device please do, that will help out the community sooooooo much. I like the idea of the petition but that can only go so far. You can find evil on twitter @evil_devnull or on the rootzwiki fourms.

Its better than waiting for ATT and HTC to stop playing grabass with each other. BTW I've been meaning to pm you slapshot. If rquinn19 can't send his/her device to evil, do you wanna get donations going for Redneck (if he is still up to it) to use his upgrade for the device?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Reclaim:
That's pretty awesome. We should keep pushing that kind of thing. Verizon, T-MO, here we come... I bet they would do anything to help our cause. There's going to be a lot of free agents out there soon. I bet they would battle for us. Just sayin....
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Look in the "Think tank" thread in the dev section. Gsleon seems like he may be up to something.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
I noticed his post maybe about 5 mins after I made my long post :(
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] joshua54:
I bump my bounty up to 25$ just got my vivid after my inspire went swimming last week..:( but I'm loving my new baby!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Aus_Azn:
Ew, TMobile.

If I could jump ship at this point, it'd definitely be to Verizon. None of my friends with TMobile can receive a call or text in my area; Sprint is equally shoddy here, where you're constantly roaming on a "unknown" network.

Darnit, why do you have to lock me in, corporate!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
I'd go to Ver, with the Droid RAZR.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ahm12:
I m thinking if getting a htc amaze instead of vivid ....
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] IanWizard:
Getting LTE turned on in areas that weren't slated for it when I looked, just got it turned on in the SF area tonight, without warning.
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Tarheel487:
I searched for this but couldn't find an answer on XDA, is there a way or an app to be able to get the content off of your dvr onto your phone?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] kujayhawks77:
As far as I know there is no way to do this yet. (I have to use a capture card to pull anything off my DVR). I have heard rumors for months now that at some point Directv wil have an app to stream your DVR recordings but I have yet to see it.