yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scook9:
That is the thing though, sense 4.0 is not nearly as bad as prior versions allegedly. And I would guess that they would have to bump us to sense 4.0 to complement ICS and not use the stagnating 2.0 on ICS like they did GB.

As far as I know, the Desire (Eris never got GB afaik) got the shaft on GB because the internal memory on the phone was very low by ICS standards. We have 768MB so should be pretty comfortable running ICS - even the sensed version

edit: Just checked the desire specs and I think it was actually the storage space that was its problem, not RAM. We definitely have the needed storage space
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Do you have his git? I know the parameter he means but that would help figure out how to get it into our weird Hal.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Not really news htc already told us they were giving us ics.

Edit: this was directed to the verizon ics announcement post.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] whojabacod:
Mildly excited ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
But what does it mean in layman terms?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
There is no hidden meaning. Take what you will from it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] scook9:
Well, before today I had seen a lot of HTC phones listed specifically (it seemed) excluding the ThunderBolt.....either way paint me happy :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Face unlock does work. The missing part isn't in the hal, it's in the camera app. I saw saga had updated overlays for it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sundar2012:
i'm guessing it has to do with this snippet suggesting that someone on the cm team is working on a mecha build? Or that ProTekk is working on a mecha build? I don't know, its a lot like reading tea leaves. The other possibility is that some of these RIL related things are different?

ro.build.description=cm_mecha-userdebug 4.0.3 MR1 eng.koush.20120131.220535 test-keys
ro.build.fingerprint=HTC/cm_mecha/mecha:4.0.3/MR1/eng.koush.20120131.22053
ro.cm.device=mecha
....
#+from QCT Fusion
rild.libpath=/system/lib/libril-qc-1.so
....
# system props for telephony modules
#
#device supports LTE
ro.config.lte=true
#device supports EHRPD
ro.config.ehrpd=true
#device supports simultaneous 1x voice + LTE
ro.config.svlte1x=true
#-from QCT Fusion
.....
# Default network type.
# 8 => CDMA/EVDO/LTE auto mode preferred.
ro.telephony.default_network=8
....
ro.cm.version=9.0.0-RC0-ThunderBolt-KANG

Has anyone tried reaching out directly to Qualcomm or have contacts there? I'm sure they are the ones who are experts on how to get their Fusion LTE chip working on any software.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Wow. It was in the recovery source by Koush. I said that. It means he was building a thunderbolt version when making the recovery. It really is that simple. I said no hidden meanings. I don't see ProTekk releasing a thunderbolt build relatively soon being they won't touch my camera submission. I don't know what that one is about but they seem to be dancing around finding another way to get it. I promise it works :)

In other news I found source to disable compatibility mode by default. Hello fixed resolution issues.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Note2Frat:
Good news. I found protekk didn't update his libraries at all for the Incredible. I was working on a ROM until my phone died. I constantly updated my libraries. Can't wait till RIL is working.

Going to load your ROM as soon as its done downloading.

EDIT fixed typo, makes more sense now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Does that mean that we can have it so it's not too small or too big and that everything works the right way?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
Uh.. What's up with google play..?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
What do you mean?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RossLH:
Its the new name for the marketplace.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tburns:
DV actually apologized to u on Twitter. I'm not sure what all is going on but it sucks to see peeps bash devs like yourself and the others. The droid Eris forums this drama never happened.

Keep an open mind and keep trucking like u are man!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Wow, that is nice considering I think I only told him (and the entire thread at Rootz for that matter) 1,000 times that I don't use, have, or check twitter, but I am sure it was a great show for the supporters he lost.

Edit: but let's leave it at "it's fine" to spare any invasion.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
So far I am unable to get the new build to boot on the boot manager :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
I can barely get it to download

Edit: starting to pick up
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I got it to download and pass MD5 on my pc and Phone so either it's just broken or Boot manager doesn't like it. I even wiped my data and remade the slot.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Huh, you're right. Click boot then okay and it just sits there and does nothing. I a little skeptic whether I should flash the update.zip via recovery. I've screwed with my phone and had restore twice today and don't really feel for like going for a third.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well to get back to your normal phone rom you just flash the BootManager/PhoneRom/update.zip as a normal zip in recovery. At least if your using Boot Manager :)

Hopefully twisted fixes what ever the problem is so we can try this awesomeness!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Ya I know, just a little tired of recovery and hboot. Although we'll probobaly get a fix soon.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
If you don't already have touch recovery pay the $2 it's totally worth it makes things go 100x faster.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2

http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager

$2?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well you can flash it your self manually for free or you can donate $2 and rom manager does it for you. At the time I was having issues with my cable so I payed the money plus it was easier anyways.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Twisted, are you aware about the 'grey screen' contact photo/wallpaper issue?

I've been advising people to clear their thumbnail and gallery cache to force re-drawing of thumbnails, but earlier I managed to replicate the problem some users are reporting.

It seems to be specific, as in this video you'll notice it happens specifically and

ironically

to the android HAL wallpaper for some reason.

It doesn't happen for other photos/wallpapers randomly set.

I took a video of it if you want to have a look with any idea what is causing it.

Turn off sound if the background music is not your taste, was testing some guy's bug report that mp3's stop playing after awhile.

[YOUTUBE]tx-5ZrOSo_I[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.ohmarni.com/images/AndroidWP/wallpaper_hal.jpg
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Neat, but that isn't my build...? That is an issue with hardware accelerated rendering and gallery. It's happening because a lot of people release builds using the gapps gallery or code that hasn't been updated to resolve cache issues.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Yeah it's not.

One of these days I'll spend some time to figure out why I can't flash after compiling from your playground source.

Guessing it doesn't happen for you that you are aware of eh?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Nope, sorry.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] djsnake210:
wow.... twrp2 is amazing... thanks for recommending and posting the link here. I haven't got a chance to go through it fully yet, but in doing a quick look-around i can see that this will definitely save a buttload of time when flashing.

Thanks again!

Oh... and thank you for your continued commitment to the tbolt!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] paraplegicpanda:
Removed by user.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I was a die hard clockwork user, but touch just looked like it was slapped together for thunderbolt, so it was worth looking into alternatives.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] haliwa04:
Is something wrong with the download link? It Downloaded in less than a second?

Posted from my 1.34ghz, Infected, Themed Out, Lightningbolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
If you tried to download:

Latest Build Completed: Thu Mar 8 13:00:19 EST 2012 Please Allow 30-45 Min.

At 1:13, then the problem wasn't the link ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] haliwa04:
Oh duh. Yea, my brain is officially fried for the week. Thanks.

Posted from my 1.34ghz, Infected, Themed Out, Lightningbolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
hey, the camera error is back. besides that, everything's working nicely
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
Yoo check this camera app out: http://android.podnova.com/download/904900/

Its identical 2 ics
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
On the most recent build, if you download http://db.tt/qx3juoVe extract it and push or paste it to system/lib/hw you can start unlocking your phone with your face ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
AAHHH YES! ...though I'm still having a problem, it keeps telling me "Sorry, your face is too ugly" and then it just wipes my phone. Fix?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
:eek: What did ya do??

You might have to be in a not too bright room and not move forever. That's how it seemed to work on the transformer.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Hmm, I thought that was supposed to be an "advanced" device. My grandpa thunderbolt in a dimly lit room unlocks in 5 seconds flat.

The trick to getting a good image is ignore their instructions, hold the phone at a slight angle below face level, at a far enough distance that your entire head fits into the circle with a tiny bit of buffer room around it and sit still until the dots complete the circle. Don't do the config in bright sunlight or in the dark. Once it takes that first time, it does pretty well after.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Sounds good I'll try it tomorrow!

What about getting the 180 dpi to work it's that possible? Maybe force it to render it as such but force apps to think it's 240 on the 160 dpi it thinks your running a tablet in a lot if the apps like Google music, chrome, and netflix.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Already done
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
So I can just switch it to 180 Dpi no problem?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Really tested out face lock just now, it works really well. Awesome job! I was a little confused though, was face unlock meant to be displayed the way it was on the lock screen? It doesn't look right.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
The dpi fix must be in a new build or something because I still have the same problem as before. Hopefully it works soon keep up the good work ics is such an addiction lol I always want to use it but I can't with out the ril.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] droid future:
Yes I have this camera and it works awesome. Sometimes when you zoom in too much the image is a little distorted but great app. You can even use the volume rocker as the shutter button to take pictures and you can zoom in on the front facing camera. Must try for everyone.

Sent from my rabbit hole using my carrotbolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Next build may kill faceunlock to add camcorder. Neither may work. Both may work. Don't know yet.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
there is only one way to find out keep up the great work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I'm sure if you get both working then it won't be long before you get the whole thing working at once! Keep it up bro I'm going to try out this new build!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Won't be much longer till it can be tested
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
This looks like a tablet.. #swagg

Doesn't let me change the dpi btw.. I change it and reboot but it stays the same.keep up the good work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Change the qemu towards the bottom. I need to get it to add better spacing. It's lumped together to go into 5 devices.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I can't boot I am using boot manager and I did wipe data. Here is logcat :)

http://pastebin.com/9BkQVgpv
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
http://db.tt/ERSXNNly
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
is that the latest build?

data working? LOL, I am so just kidding.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Wouldn't it be epic if the working ril build was posted like that with nothing said LOL
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Just a backup from before the bad camera
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
So the build is older not newer?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
That is correct
[Thunderbolt Android Development] haliwa04:
What happened to this? I click and got the F U message
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TheMuffStuff:
I know data doesnt work, but is that just 3g/4g, does texting calling ect work?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TemporalShadows:
Nope, nothing that relies on the cellular network is working.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Revision 3 building now... Ugh, hopefully the missing call was all that was holding it up
[Thunderbolt Android Development] haliwa04:
Any idea of why this link went dead?

Posted from my 1.34ghz, Infected, Themed Out, Lightningbolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I think it may have got further but it seems to still have a similar problem here is the LogCatz http://pastebin.com/2pdZFcie

I hope this is helpful to you.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Difference this time is binder worked and I see what's wrong with camera, it is just going to be fun trying to fix it.

It's saying getCameraInfo fails. I had to block some of the code there to build hoping it wasn't needed. Looks like it is which means another framework rewrite.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
That doesn't sound like much fun and it sounds like it will take a while :( Well keep up the good work I'll send you more logcats if they are helpful to you.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Makes it easier to keep making changes and not stop to install. Just wasted another three hours rebuilding frameworks so at this point it better work lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Yeah I really hope it does work I want to try out the sexy camcorder and face unlock :P
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
:O Agreed
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ae1990:
If you get this working I will swap my resound to my gf for my thunderbolt that's she has haha...lol maybe I do love my rom on that currently but keep up the good work I might jump back I love the width of the bolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I keep refresh to see if there is a new build :( I wish that there was a leak already so we can finally use this as a DD!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I made the last of the changes I could find needed to be made for it to work. Only thing left is build and pray.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Build faster! lol I am so freakin bored right now and I need to crack flash summ more ICS!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Just waiting for it to install to see if it was worth all the hassle
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Giggity :-D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
You have no idea how many times I have refreshed this thread and the download page LOL. I really hope it works bro that would suck if it didn't and you worked so hard :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
It will still be here if you miss the second it actually works. Life is better not wasted waiting for something as silly as a camera update.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
It's true I'm just the only one left in the dorms for the whole week and have nothing better to do LOL
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
The last build uses the old hal with new camera changes until the hal is sorted. When the bootloop was happening before just deleting the hal fixed the issue so something is off.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
What is the hal exactly?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
The camera library. camera.msm7x30.so
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
So what effect does it have on how it actually functions?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
That is the middle man between hardware and software. It's kind of like your lawyer. It tales what you want to say and puts it into the right language.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrkite38:
Hah. Nice explanation.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] TheBeardedMann:
That's hilarious and one the best explanations for a lot of things!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Well the new hal is still having issues with connecting but the old hal was updated with some changes to test out to solve some of the issues it is having. Stuck between a rock and a hard place on getting this running lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Yeah, I tried building with your commit from 6 hours ago (this one) for kicks to see how far it got.

No luck, couldn't connect to camera but I saw you are up to a lot of new development lately, confident you have progress in there.

Flashed over the camera lib that when you first got the panorama working a little over a week ago, it let me have back cam but no front.

Pano itself has been weird lately, can only get it to show the first still and then it just sticks itself there.

Same with video chat, had it for one build, then the updated ones just have the image frozen on the first still.

I lost track of which commit it was that had it working for our cam pretty good. :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
It's hard to keep track of so many things at once I just hope that the leak will come out soon maybe that will help with the camera as well it seems like it's taking forever to get a leak this time around I swear we had a GB leak 6 months before we ever got the update.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] METDeath:
Well, they probably just finally decided to put ICS on it, so they may not even have a beta build yet. What kills me is that they released it with 2.2 when 2.3 was already out!

I think that's my overall grip with Android... the manufacturers!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
That was one part of about 6 different changes. That's why on the other thread I page cherry picking it right now would break camera.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
well my gps in my tbolt has fried it self. im in the process of getting my replacement all set up. and then ill load up the new build and report my findings.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Would you be willing to point out which changes are the ones I need for FFC/pano?

I tried reverting back to an earlier date (we had it working for sure on a Mar-04 build), but I was unsuccessful in figuring out which commits were the ones that changed it or are necessary!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
When it's ready, it will be cleaned up into a single camera commit but as I said earlier it's too spread out and mixed together right now. It's focus on a working camcorder or cleaning up the current crap hal, so which is more important lol?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
True enough, you still got sense above your shoulders.

Did you ever manage to find the camhal source that taiwan chinese group was using?

I tried asking the guy who released the rom on their forums, but as expected he just ignored or didn't reply yet to my request for source..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I was handed modified source from caf to get it working, but it needed to be converted to work with our prebuilt stuff. I keep getting closer but it has a lot of quirks. I will be giving it another test tonight with new fixes that I tested.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Wow. You guys are really amazing, I can hardly understand all the terms you use. I'm really happy we that we have twisted on our side. I just hope your able to do other stuff in your life besides programming. Thank you- Truly Amazing!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Lol, I go to college. Luckily it's for mobile so I just pass a lot of what I do here as work for class. It's a full circle benefit.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Man I need to do that lol. I'm sucking at Java right now though my teachers aren't exactly teaching very well ugg.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Twisted really gets all the street cred. I'm just a random guy trying to hang out with the cool kids club.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] user_error:
I am digging back through the thread, page by page.. but I'll ask anyway and hopefully get a clearer picture.

What is going on with the radio (AKA mobile data)? What is holding us up? Is it a problem translating drivers from Sense to AOSP?:confused:

And is there anywhere specific I should be looking to keep up on its progress (so I can stop asking you guys :p )

I am really excited for this to come along - its the Mum's phone and she wants ICS and dislikes sense (and ALL sense based roms for that matter) and shes buggin me. No one can turn down the mum once she sees ICS!

BTW, You guys are great. I honestly did not expect ICS for the thunderbolt to be anywhere near this far along.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
No worky. No source. No compatibility. Only person claiming to work on it can't write original code, which is what's needed. We did get a bunch of twitter updates, but they don't seem to merge properly ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
There is no sense based ICS rom for the thunderbolt to work off of it has to be written from scratch at this point. However no one that I know of is really working on it we are all just waiting for the official ICS update to leak and then most of the problems will be easier to fix.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] user_error:
Awesome :)

Thnx for the clear responses btw, its appreciated.

Killer kernel devs are like gold for us I suppose.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Jlewis894:
Now that the one s ruu has leaked, will this help with our radio issues http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1543328

sent from my pimped out bliss
[Thunderbolt Android Development] StephenMilone:
from what i understand the thunderbolt is unique in the way it's radio is configured, so nothing will help us except a thunderbolt ICS update from HTC.

This may help us get Sense 4.0 based ICS roms...but not radio

correct me if i'm wrong.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] raddacle:
Right
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
I am sure the message has passed through the grapevine now - I hope you can find functionality from the chinese DHD camhal source. It seems it wasn't that complicated the whole time.