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[General Accessories] Gadgety:
It depends on your needs.

I find the MotoACTV impressive on almost all counts, but it lacks one crucial feature. The MotoACTV doesn't have vibration alert, which just about all the other BT watches sport. According to the Moto engineers I asked on the MotoACTV forum they decided to exclude it

from the hardware

because it would drain the battery. What a shame! If there is ONE thing a watch like this needs, it's the vibration alert. At least that's my experience after 6 years of life with the MBW-150. The vibration combined with visual notification is the #1 feature for me.

The new updated Sony Smartwatch (finally!) keeps time without a continuous connection to the phone/tablet, it does have a vibration function, but the screen does not offer the transflective mode of the MotoACTV, the WIMM and the Meta Watch, which means a) two hands to check time b) less battery life. And Sony's LiveView performance has been rather poor. I also think the redesigned clip on it looks ugly.

The i'm Watch has way higher screen resolution than the others at 220 ppi (just like the iPod Nano), compared to the MotoACTV's 176, WIMM's 162, the Smartwatch/LiveView's 139 (also seen 130 somewhere) the inPulse's 123. It also sports a microphone and a tiny speaker. Although the hw has both BT and WIFI, the i'm Watch will not be released with WIFI enabled however, according to a mail answer from their staff.

The WIMM is still in development. As is the Meta Watch. None of them are aiming at consumers other than through partners, which so far are nowhere to be seen.
[General Accessories] mjsztainbok:
Do you think that the i'm Watch using Android 1.6 works against it compared to the WIMM?

If you had to choose between the various watches which do you think would most likely have the biggest and best app ecosystem?
[General Accessories] y2grae:
do the watches get good support? or just sold and forgotten?

would a watch have ICS?
[General Accessories] JimSmith94:
I wouldn't trust Sony-Ericsson to support anything. There is a thread on this site about our problems with their non-support of the faded LCD displays on our MBW-150s. :mad:
[General Accessories] Gadgety:
Unfortunately I agree. Sony (aka SE) does have an appalling track record. Although I believe none of the "larger" companies really provide support in the mobile space.

I have heard of people getting new MBW-150s on warranty, but both my watches failed after warranty was up. Shame really as I really liked it.

The LiveView promised a lot but the updates were few (1 or 2?) and it never really got working with non-Sony devices. I understand that this due to non-standard bluetooth implementation in the other devices.

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I haven't tried either the WIMM or the i'm Watch so I'm not really qualified to say anything. I imagine it all depends on the implementation.

Regarding support, well what kind of support? User support here on XDA? Manufacturer support?

The Sony and the MotoACTV are big names and you can find threads for both (well the old LiveView, but once the Smartwatch is out, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a thread or two) here on XDA. The MotoACTV already has been rooted, and there are custom ROMs and stuff being created as I type. As I said I would have gone MotoACTV but without a vibrating alert it's a non starter for me.

i'm Watch hasn't really been delivered to customers so we'll have to sit that one out. WIMM claims to have 2500 developers linked up. You have to sign up as a "developer" to buy the device, so I don't know how many of those 2500 are active developers. BTW that means 2500 devices sold... Not much. MetaWatch is available in the Texas Instruments online store, and has its own dedicated website for developers. It's open to anyone who wants to chime in.

As for the biggest app system - that'd be the Android Market, then. The MotoACTV is already there, as it has been rooted.

As for best app system, only time will tell, but usually this is a function of uptake - the more devices sold, the more interest from developers.
[General Accessories] RedRamage:
I'd like to review this old thread. Now, 4 months down the line, is there any clearer inform about the "best" smartwatch?

I just recently got an Android device. I got my hands on a pretty cheap LiveView, and it sucks... big time. Went back to my MBW-150, even though the display is starting to die. At least it works... sorta.

After reading this thread and looking at the options, I think the front runners are:

WIMM

MotoACTV

I'm Watch

MetaWatch

I really want to like the MotoACTV, but the lack of vibration alerts stinks. Further, it doesn't seem like it's designed as a Smart Phone accessory... more like a stand alone devices. My primary need in a SmartWatch is Caller ID, notifications on alerts, and maybe weather. Can the Moto do that?

MetaWatch and WIMM still appear to be in development stages.

I'm Watch looks interesting too... but $349? Wow!
[General Accessories] Product F(RED):
I've been using my MBW-150 Music Edition for almost a year now and the display is fine. Got it from $60 from Amazon at the time. The Pebble watch and cookoo look good: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/24/insert-coin-cookoo/
[General Accessories] RedRamage:
Yeah, the Pebble looks impressive too. But again, doesn't appear to be shipping yet.
[General Accessories] eikiel:
I really want a Sony Liveview! They clearly are not the best on the market, but they are down to about $30 on ebay which puts it into impulse purchase range. It would be great just for the car to attach to the steering wheel to change songs.
[General Accessories] 1SiK1500:
Ive been on a bigkick to find one that i like, Im torn between either the Wimm One or The MetaWatch... Im leaning toward the Metawatch just for simplicity.
[General Accessories] Dreamkeeper:
I strongly advise not to buy the Liveview. It will not work most of the time, it will simply disconnect randomly and don't connect back for minutes, even if you will press at the button. Then I lost mine, it was really a good day :) And yes, the watch band is really terrible, you will have to disconnect the watch every 2 days to charge it, and in 2-3 months the plastic lock will break, so you'll lose it for sure.
[General Accessories] RedRamage:
I strongly second this. I got a LiveView off Amazon... worst $30 I spent. I love to thinker and make things work... but this piece of trash... I gave up on it almost instantly. It was not intuitive, and didn't look like it would work well even if it operated exactly as promised. Then... within hours it disconnect and won't reconnect.
[General Accessories] Bladder61:
I have a LiveView (bought one when they were $60) and went through the connection issues and frustration. It sat in a desk drawer for a lot of months. A XDA thread about reverse engineering the watch has kept it alive. There is an app that makes the watch rock solid on staying connected. Feel better about spending $30 and download "LiveView Charm". It is free at the play store. Once you pair your device you open up LiveView Charm and start it. You will see it running in your top bar notifications. For me it works flawlessly. I can go for days without dropping a connection. When you get time tinker with it and see if it helps.
[General Accessories] RedRamage:
Thanks, I'll give it a try.
[General Accessories] RedRamage:
I'm very, very close to pulling the trigger on getting an Inpulse. I really like the look and design of the watch. I fully realize that it's 'old' technology and that a number of new watches are headed our way. The problem is that my current watch (MBW-150) is dying (fading display) and it isn't fully compatible with Touchdown. I figured the Inpulse would be a nice alternative until the newest options became available. I don't expect to see anything of the new options (Metawatch, Wimm, or Pebble) available to the average consumer for at least 6-12 months. Plus, with an expensive gadget like this, I hate to be too early and adopter incase there are compatibility problems.

So, back to the Inpulse... like I said... very close to pulling the trigger. BUT... it doesn't look like Inpulse is compatible with any email problem except Gmail and K-9. Bummer... I don't want to run my corp. email through Gmail, and K-9 doesn't support Exchange 2010...

So, maybe I just hold off for now. :confused:
[General Accessories] aimery:
I like Fossil MetaWatch

personally speaking, I like Fossil MetaWatch, it looks good, and smart, you know.
[General Accessories] RedRamage:
I starting to lean more towards the Metawatch. I've posted a bit about if the Metawatch would work with either Touchdown or Moxier and within hours someone from Metawatch was posting messages in the support areas of both of those companies looking for info on how to make the watch work with that software provider.

It's support like that that makes me feel much more comfortable shelling out lots of money for a product.

Plus having the display LCD instead of some version of LED means the screen can always be on with very little battery used.
[General Accessories] RedRamage:
So looks like I'm getting a Metawatch. I've been in communication with a guy who develops for the watch. He might be working on getting Touchdown to interface with the watch for alerts and unread counts. That's what finally pushed me into getting one.
[General Accessories] 1SiK1500:
ive been looking around for a Smartwatch Also.. I was torn between the Wimm One and MetaWatch...

I am also leaning toward the Metawatch. I think it has a little more to offer. It looks to be well constructed also. I wish it had a large following like the Pebble watch. Most people dont know that the Metawatch will work with the Iphone 4+.
[General Accessories] RedRamage:
I know the Meta isn't as well known as the pebble, but it's available now and it does seem to have some decent developers supporting it already. Check out the Forums on their site.
[General Accessories] ArcticFish:
Pebble watch all the way

Sent from my SGH-T989
[General Accessories] rockaholic112:
MetaWatch

How much does a metawatch cost?
[General Accessories] Shpade:
LOL what is that?
[General Accessories] tradesteady:
I should say Timex is impressive and tight stick on it even HUWEI/S-c could not let me get away from it...worth to try...
[General Accessories] 1SiK1500:
$199.99 Each

http://www.metawatch.org/models/
[General Accessories] rockaholic112:
Thanks. I kinda wanna get the smartwatch, but I'm worried. Between what I've heard about the live view, and about the screen being hard to see in the sun, I don't know if it's worth it. At the same time...

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX
[General Accessories] benjymous:
Actually, the original bluetooth2.1 versions (i.e. not the new iPhone compatible bluetooth4 one) are currently on sale:

https://ordering.digikey.com/promotions/tradeshow.aspx?id=10

$149 for the Digital model, $139 for the Analog.

(I'm responsible for a pretty popular fork of the MetaWatch Manager Android app - see the link in my sig - it's me that Red was taking to over on the MW forums)
[General Accessories] 1SiK1500:
wow great pricing! thanks for the heads up!
[General Accessories] Gadgety:
I used a couple of SonyEricsson (i e Fossil developed) MBW-150s for six years. The BT smartwatch experience was addictive and had me leave behind really great looking, expensive and stylish non-BT watches. Unfortunately Bill Geiser's MetaWatch take up is too slow. Wimm One take up seems limited, although I really like its flexible design. Sony Smartwach is flawed right off the bat (imagine, that would never happen with a Sony product, now would it). i'm Watch is underpowered and late. The Pebble has an experienced team around it, and nice take up on Kickstarter. But no matter how much battery it saves, I don't want a B&W screen. To me the MotoACTV seems the only smartwatch that has significant uptake. Motorola is supporting the watch, and the team seems really dedicated and listens to its customers, whereas Sony's seems deaf to its customers. Motorola has already incorporated suggestions from its user community (indeed one of my suggestions, yay!). The only drawback to the MotoACTV is no vibration alert. I'm holding out for the next generation.
[General Accessories] happiers07:
I’m watch
[General Accessories] speedyink:
So far my favorite is the Motoactv. Biggest downside is lack of internal speaker, but I can live with it. Mainly because of what I can do with it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psDGKb67oiw&list=UUzTGBsYJZ6d9sZY5mFChSvA&index=6&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw5pZXdBrpo&list=UUzTGBsYJZ6d9sZY5mFChSvA&index=5&feature=plcp
[General Accessories] rothariger:
I have preordered a pebble...
[General Accessories] LoganPaul56:
I thought of creating a new thread but while searching I came across this thread so thought reopening it by posting in it...What Smartwatch Brand and what model is the best in 2018??

Kindly post your opinions
[General Accessories] galaxys:
Maybe some ideas here: https://xdaforums.com/smartwatch
[General Accessories] LoganPaul56:
A separate page for just smartwatches that impressive... Thx for the link.
[General Accessories] Axelle Jardin:
Apple Watch ofc
[HTC Sensation] zimphishmonger:
Been trying to assemble and super smooth and ultra smooth Rosie for Bulletproof v14 for quite a while, but I cant get it working right. It decompiles (with com.htc.resources.apk), I made all the required smali changes, recompiled (although with errors).

The guide to follow is here - GUIDE

Cant for the life of me figure out how to get these working. Anyone else have better luck? Ive posted the two APKs that should work but arent. Feel free to have fun w/ them and please share if you figure out how to get them working:)

FYI - THis is for Sense 3.0 only as Bulletproof v14 is Sense 3.0
[HTC Sensation] zfemx:
Please For sense 3.5
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] :
I just wanna repost an application DSPManager from Cyanogenmod7. Here's a little change I've made. I made flashable package for advanced user. flash using CWM recovery. and I think DSPManager will be great with Google Music v3.0. feel it :D

Original thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1210365

CREDITS GOES TO

Cyanogenmod Team - for App

imranaryan - for posting thread

All Dev on xdaforums.com
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] OiToBi:
Thanx ... will b helpful for someone ^_° ....

PS : nice Droid font .. my favo xD

Sent from Wherever I was last using XDA :]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] :
I hope so. :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] doctorace92:
No need to make flashable package. You can also install it directly as a normal apk. It worked for me that way.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] :
I've made that flashable for who wanted wanna put that into /system/app. sometimes anyone want applying into /system/app like me. just for share. . . :)

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Sorry for my bad English :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] OiToBi:
Ua username ....

Isn't saigetsu d one who composed all OSTs of Bleach anime??

PS :Naruto & Bleach my favo animes .... m still k1d lol :D

Sent from Wherever I was last using XDA :]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] :
I'm not sure. I just write that name's. :)

I forgot where I take that name's.

Saigetshu have a full name. Saigetshu Shinigami. mean of Shinigami is "lord of death" (I think) I take it from "Death Note" character. and I forgot mean of "saigetshu". :D

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Sorry for my bad English dude :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ravin_jr:
wana remove back DSP Manager

HI,

i had installed the app in my stock ROM.now if i want to remove back how? any Zip file for removal?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] :
you can use "Titanium backup" or "System App Remover" for uninstalling any application applied in /system/app.

Here I attach a "system app remover" need root for working well. you can find "Titanium Backup" in market place.

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Sorry for my bad English :D

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Press thank if I helped you.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] OiToBi:
Lol ^^

Sent from Wherever I was last using XDA :]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] :
:D

Hi dude, what ur ROM currently used?

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Sorry for my English :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ravin_jr:
thanks bro...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] cr0sswind:
Thanks for this :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] :
use thank button for say thank's. . . :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] Pgr626:
THX :)

Thank you very much. I could not install the APK even putting the proper credentials in sys / app. I flashes. Zip file and DSP Manager works perfectly on my Nexus S version 2.3.7. (Rom NexusMV, Kerne Franco) :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Themes and Apps] ferxx17:
thanks dude :D.
[LG Optimus Black] sonic997:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/4f85d9242667a85f?pli=1

Does it mean that there is a chance to upgrade to CM9 with android 4.0 for our lovely P970?
[LG Optimus Black] agent205:
hope so :)
[LG Optimus Black] lesp4ul:
Cyanogenmod definetly receives Ice Cream from Google. About our phone will get the port we'll see...
[LG Optimus Black] Altermind:
*looks for places to donate to 4.0 for p970*
[LG Optimus Black] N1ldo:
Good news!

I'll have to wait anxiously in our OB.
[LG Optimus Black] HPintosh:
Google has been public their code for ICS, while LG still patiently keep their GingerBeard secret.

2+ for Google

1+ for CyanogenMod - An ICS release soon :-)

2- for LG
[LG Optimus Black] BoyBawang2:
Now we have reason to get jealous. SE just confirmed today that they will really update their 2011 Xperia lineup to 4.0 ICS. We know those phones have only about 320MB of ROM. LG it's your turn!
[LG Optimus Black] fatcobrah:
Ricardo is porting ics to p920 wow
[LG Optimus Black] subraj:
wow what a news.This is what iam waiting for.Now I will buy ob.

is ics gonna be really ported to ob?

please help me
[LG Optimus Black] fatcobrah:
i am not sure but i think so bcoz he started with 3d before ob for cm and now its ics time :D

Ricardo
[LG Optimus Black] apg1980:
4.0 ICS Update will come to P970

Hi everybody,

today i wrote to LG Online Chat and asked about the next release for gingerbread an ICS 4.0.

They told me, the official gingerbread update is coming first days of decembre and ICS 4.0 will also come for true.

We will see...
[LG Optimus Black] reinbeau:
Thread closed

No ICS speculation threads.
[General Questions and Answers] rustyshack3:
Figured I'd start with a post in this area since it may just be sensless babble, but I would like to learn about kernel development and maybe have sort of a mentor to get me started. I have a ton of experience with kernel hacking and distro development in Linux and I know some of my experience must be helpful to Android. I just need someone to help get me started instead of going on a wild goose chase trying to figure it out from square one. Anyone want to help get me started?

I am NOT just a random noob saying hey, this sounds cool.

I would just like to find someone to help me apply my Linux skills to Android.
[General Questions and Answers] rustyshack3:
Lots of views and no tips?
[General Questions and Answers] princessDroid3:
oh that sucks
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dr.Strangelove.:
So I'm new to the whole Android scene and rooting and such. So what are the most common things to do when you root it? And also since HTC is releasing the ICS update soon should I wait until after it comes out to root it? I'm coming from an iPhone so I'm still have limited knowledge in this but do have experience modding a bunch of devices.

Thanks.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
As of now the only real advantage of rooting is is removing the bloatware.

You can also backup, restore and experiment with custom roms (very limited number to date however) that give you a few other minor options such as the wifi calling that HTC pulled right after the release of the device.

So far we are not able to overclock or anything like that because HTC hasn't released the kernel source yet.

Be aware that you void your warranty by rooting according to the htcdev site. You'll get the notice when you unlock your bootloader.

By the way... odds are that we'll have ICS way before HTC releases the update to our phones. So if you do decide to root you will probably have ICS months before the official update is released. You can literally go around and show everyone the new update weeks before they get it themselves. Kind of a cool feeling. ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] Dr.Strangelove.:
Thanks for all that info. It's good to know that I can backup and restore and experiment with custom roms. I heard about bricking your phone and was afraid to mess around with it because of that. I liked on the iPhone how if you messed up you could just restore it and start over. And just to clarify rooting unlocks the bootloader right? Or is that something different?

Thanks.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xboarder56:
there is no way to brick your phone right now becuase htc only allows you certian access that wont brick it you can restore if things go bad :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CJSnet:
I have the stock T-Mobile simply rooted.

What is the best procedure for me to retain root once ICS drops AND be able to use titanium to restore all my apps and settings?

Eg

If I download ICS, I will lose root but retain my apps and settings.

When ICS is eventually rooted I can then root my Nexus S but that wipes all my data. I won't be able to backup first, because that required the root I lost when I updated a while before. Assuming a week or month until root is released, this means my pre update backup will be outdated.

So should I wait until a root is discovered before even accepting the OTA update? Then I can backup, update, root, restore, all in one day?

Or will there be a root that doesn't wipe the device?

Any better ideas? Thanks!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crump84:
Wait for a stock rooted ROM..
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CJSnet:
Then just flash it and I will keep all my settings and apps?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] borrowedchief:
No, if you flash a new rom, you will have to use Titanium to restore app and data. As far as settings, I think you'll have to reset.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CJSnet:
How come? Flashing an updated ROM OTA doesn't usually wipe apps and settings. Why would flashing a stock rooted ROM to an already rooted device behave differently and wipe them?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Master Ramy:
Because while an ota is built to deliberately avoid a wipe, most roms require a good old wipe to run well because ur coming off a possibly very different rom whereas ota is coming from a cleanly stock rom or it wouldn't accept update. Make sense?

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] ahmed_pa:
good the site very very good thanks for all

:)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 General] slack04:
a better way to get your post count up is to reply to other people's threads. Don't create pointless threads.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Shayne55434:
I some how deleted two Yahoo apps and now I'm stuck. All the other bloatware was frozen, but my yahoo contacts and authentication apks were deleted. Now every time I select a contact "com.motorola.contacts" fcs. HELP!! Could someone backup theirs using TB and send them to me? Any help would be great! Thanks guys.

Yahoo Calendar service 2.3.5 (I still have this.)

Yahoo Contacts 2.3.5 (I NEED this!)

Yahoo! Mail Authenticator 2.3.5 (I NEED this!)

PS - Downloaded the system dump and tried to install the "YahooContacts.apk" but it wouldn't install. Which is why I need backup files.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] aisaev:
Did you manage to resolve this? I am at the same spot.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ronin3178:
I will zip up my backup files for those and post shortly. I did a full backup when I was rooted, recently unrooted but files are still there.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] aisaev:
Sweet! Just to make sure - yours are from VZW/CDMA version, correct?