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[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
If porting full working drivers were possible in any way from any device to make o2x runs with everything working on ics it should be done by now.. Al the things you are thinking now developers though about it long time ago... I'm developer myself.. Just not android developer.. I develop in assembler for microcontrollers as I am electronics engineer, and trust me there's nothing that I don't know about the chips I work on...

Every microcontroler (I'm specialist in microchip) has different libraries to access the different modules... As microchip produce open source libraries I can access all the functionalities in the processor and microchip provide the full pdf with the instructions set for every processor.. But even chips from the same family with a minimum variation like let's say pic18f478 to pic18f478a can have bunch of different modules with a bunch of different libraries...

So once I can develop a function out of the instructions set (what's called here from scratch) I can then develop a library wich I can call in my main software every time I want the processor execute an action... So in this case Nvidia won't provide their instructions set for their processors... They only provide libraries to oems... And oems can develop procedures and functions with these libraries...

That said Nvidia has no responsibilities here... Because no matter what os oems use the chips and the libraries are the same and the method to access chipset function won't change from one os to another... That's processor architecture and can not be modified..

LG has to re develop the function and procedures to work with the new os that is low level (assembler compiled) and embedded into the os... Those functions are way different from one device to another and it's not possible to use them unless it's the same exact chip family with no variants...

Devs here can not develop functions because they don't have access to the libraries... They only have access to the final product or what I could call the UI for developer.. And that's the DRIVERS..

That's it..
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
HerrKuk i totally agree with you when you say everyone hates spam and most of the guys are really disturbing. But in this case i even gave you an example of Tonyp posting on Ricardo's Google + but he got no reply....

That's all i meant.
[LG Optimus 2x] baen:
Every time I've contacted him (through twitter or G+) he answered. And pretty fast. I even talked once with supercurio and him discussion some possibilities. He's very accessible.

Take note that he does everything in his spare time.

We need a leak or release from LG another devices have a very slim chance of being mildly useful... The only thing I hope is that every blob that comes with the official ICS is usable to JB...
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
You have to take in account that I commented on a post of his which was totally unrelated to ICS or the 2x. He doesn't like that :D
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
Yeah but what else could you do?

At that moment you could only use is latest post on Google+:D
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Yes I just wanted to say that I get answers usually. Both at Twitter and at G+. This was the first time I didn't - who knows, maybe he was in stress due to personal reasons. He has done way too much for us that I would critize him for not answering this one time.

And his policy is that he won't answer already asked or dumb questions, which I think is totally fine.

Maybe he just didn't read my question well enough and thought "not another optimus 2x idiot who uploads a random ICS ROM and thinks this will work" :D
[LG Optimus 2x] Imperticus:
Tweeting him is a good option, but he doesn't usually reply to stupid /previously answered question. I asked him on Twitter and he replied promptly.
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
Lg mobile korea on twitter posted what it seems to me another dlc for ics, but it's not for our 2X.

Correct me if i'm wrong...:what:
[LG Optimus 2x] hicks12:
Believe that the latest ICS upgrades are for:

http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_lte_tag-4555.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_vu-4554.php

Dont recall the optimus Vu(view) being listed in their original time schedule, so maybe they cant be bothered with O2x anymore and skipped it/swapped it for the Vu update :P.

Its a touch annoying now, i just want to get on ICS as it was brilliant when i tried the original CM9 release but without video/camera and proper 4.0 apps (like chrome) not working it meant i couldnt use it properly. Hurry up LG!.
[LG Optimus 2x] Kinimod01:
Has anybody a clue what the meaning of "SKT", "LG U+", "KT" is?

http://www.lgmobile.co.kr/lgmobile/front/download/retrieveDownloadMain.dev

I hope that this question has not been asked before...
[LG Optimus 2x] MagnusT:
I think they are South Korean mobile network operators.
[LG Optimus 2x] FirstFirehead:
The Eagles Blood guys got a bootable version of Jelly Bean, they posted 2 screenshots. Here's the Link if you want to check them out

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1699066
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
Yeah they have it for p999 and working on porting it to p990
[LG Optimus 2x] bliizzz:
Theres even a jb port for the galaxy s with some working features....
[LG Optimus 2x] sterki:
cant wait, damn
[LG Optimus 2x] vipaman:
U won't have to want for long.....eagles blood is gonna release jb pretty soon
[LG Optimus 2x] trakz:
Still waiting for those hardware acceleration drivers for ICS.

Probably will never get them for JB unless they are cross-compatible.

Hopefully?
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
I'm sorry, personnaly, why have a JB version for the 2X if we even don't have what's needed for ICS.

It is endeed is very good to know that it can run on 2X, but the issues are the same, no HW accelaration. It's like it's just a simple shift from 4.0 to 4.1, just a number change.

All this because of LG, so many amazing Devs here at XDA, doing their best, showing that this smartphone still have enough power to keep up, everyone except the phone maker.......LG.......This is really nerve breakin....:mad:
[LG Optimus 2x] hicks12:
pretty much what i thought Tuga, its great that the devs are dedicated to porting it over but it just seems a bit redundant when the one of the main points of JB and ICS is to introduce smoothness and performance and yet all we get is the new features (or some of them... most 4.x apps still dont work). Its nice to know JB is coming in some form but its pretty useless in the sorry state that it will be in until LG or Nvidia do something out of the blue :(.

Hopefully something happens shortly. be nice to get JB nice and smooth onto our device right now but it seems like its along way off (if it ever will..) Will project butter even work with our device?.

Anyways lets wait and see if LG release something....
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
libraries for Android 4.x.x are the same this its well known and said by cyanogen team

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[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
I'm not a nvidia lover but nvidia has nothing to do with this.. hardware (and the way to access hardware functionalities) does not change in time.. software does.. nvidia provided lg with all the libraries needed to make the hardware works properly.. LG its the responsible of creating procedures and functions with these libraries so they work in whatever OS they put in the phone..

These procedures and functions all together with nvidia libraries its what we call drivers and they are standard for Android 4.X.X

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[LG Optimus 2x] Supupa:
Yes we know that lg has everything they need, yet its not their right to release this source. The only way they can release these so called "drivers"are through their 4.0.x update, which is known to us as blobs. With that said, the reason we are angry at nvidia is the rejection to release the source code to the public for a 2 year old, outdated chip (mmm salt and vinegar). That is the sole reason.
[LG Optimus 2x] hicks12:
Oh yes, my post was aimed at LG but i added a quick Nvidia mention as they COULD help us, they can release it. LG do have the source code but we know they are very slow and cant release it due to the licensing and so have to actually do it themselves, Nvidia could easily decide to release it as the Tegra 2 is an old chip now so i dont see how it would effect them in terms of profit as they probably dont get any money from it now, but if they did release it then we wouldnt be waiting on LG :P.

LG is the slow one but then Nvidia could easily help us out, thats all I meant. I could understand if it was a tegra 3 or something that is current gen, you want to get as much money from licensing it but with old chips its a bit counter productive as they could help maintain their image/brand as a nice chip manufacturer :D
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
What can happen to LG if someone of their employees takes nVidia sources and upload them anonymously somewhere on the Internet? We will have what our devs need, zero cost for LG.....I were a manager in LG I would directly order some of my employees to do this....
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
And you would get sued and NVidia wouldn't work with you again. That would give you some real bad press.
[LG Optimus 2x] ReiverBlade:
well its a shame ... tho i will never understand hardware accel is only for video hd reccording right? (if it doesnt have any other influence than video playback/recording then its a minimal impact, except for those who use a P990 like a digicam O.o )

how come that a tablet like the Toshiba Folio, 100 who is pretty much abandoned by toshiba, can have a working CM9 with HDMI and almost everything working

no its not "not the same ..." its a device where devs dont have access to a ICS build like the P990 but they make it works pretty flawlessly.

funiest part is : i test Miui v4 beta3 EagleBlood and Hellfire wit Harsh or Nova Kernel all show some counterside but nothing big they are "daily" useable with no sweat. even the RIL BB isnt a big probleme.

(ofc if i want stability i use a GB build like Chuck Norris with EtaNa kernel )

i get it ... "if its not perfect then its only good to be throw to the recycle bin" (i love doing recycling ... great news for me! )
[LG Optimus 2x] ryaneu:
Sometimes I wonder, is LG even aware that their users are selling or scrapping their phones for another brand?

Are they even trying or making any effort to save the situation?

Because I just don't see it happening at all.
[LG Optimus 2x] grean:
ZTE Grand X (U970) have same hardware or not? it have ICS :p
[LG Optimus 2x] Waechter40:
No have the Tegra 2 250 T20, the P990 have an AP20H
[LG Optimus 2x] nuvo84:
Nope.

http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_unveil_grand_x_lte_singlechip_smartphone-news-4409.php
[LG Optimus 2x] dark_sat:
People, all tegra 2 AP20H based cellphones are scheduled to receive ICS somewhere in Q3, research it and you'll see it. Motorola, LG, Samsung... all of them.
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
Yes and their is a rumor here in xda that lg will release the ics update on august or september just wait and enjoy your phones
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
In 2 weeks we will get ics.....lg people busy marketing with there l series once over...lg optimus 2x ics will be on board
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
Lol as Tonyp said... LG can not release them because nvidia will sue them... And I kinda agree with nvidia nor releasing those sources... It's just a matter of performance standards..

Imagine this situation... Nvidia has from lvl 1 to 10 I'd say a lvl 7 developers... And that's a high end standart for they products... But if they releases the libraries out there in the streets bunch of developers will have open access to those..

In streets there's all kind of developers lvl.. From -10 to 10 and remember I told you nvidia has lvl 7 devs..

Well nvidia neither can allow someone to release their chipsets drivers performing wayyyyyyyyyyy better than stock drivers because those guys will launch themselves to the sky as everyone will want to use those drivers and not stock nvidia

Or in the other hand an average developer... Lvl -10 to 5 will create crap drivers with bugs and horrible performance putting mud and **** on the top of nvidia brand...

So some how oems prove to nvidia they are able to keep standards a day so they make deals to protect sources..

Cheers
[LG Optimus 2x] dasklney:
Then other ARM CPU based manufacturers will get a lot of mud and **** on their brands because they all released source code for their CPU :D
[LG Optimus 2x] darryd:
yeap, sure...i heard that three weeks ago...;)
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
ZTE grand X != ZTE grand X LTE.....
[LG Optimus 2x] xtrustkillx:
Another google translated tweet from lg korea now we definitely need someone who can decode that language better than google :D

" Optimus 2X munuijusin ICS in order to

upgrade the current development in progress,

or whether or not munuijusin support versus

giving a specific answer is excerpted from

dissecting sheep difficulties. Schedules, and

submit your concrete contents are as shown"
[LG Optimus 2x] Snuffert:
I can imagine how dissecting sheep creates difficulties in the development. At least LG agrees it's a mess.

lolwut
[LG Optimus 2x] xtrustkillx:
Only if the sheep is rotten :D
[LG Optimus 2x] Snuffert:
A clean halal rom would be appreciated though :D
[LG Optimus 2x] rugglez:
Another tweet translated using Bing translator:

"Optimus 3D cube statement weeks hammering Optimus 2X as value pack (ICS O/S included) for testing and accurate schedules, and they will be TBA. Thank you."

What are they running? A mobile company or some slaughter house:confused: :p

But one thing is clear: As usual, nothing new, just the standard generic replies.
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
Ok guys i took the replies from LG mobile Korea.

Translated the replies and as you can see their all copy paste setences.

Here are the answers thay gave about the 2X in a month (from oldest to newest message):

-Hello, ma'am. Optimus 2X upgrade the ICS is currently in effect during the test. ^, Which implies that each terminal will take place sequentially. I'll pass the exact schedule as shown. Thank you

-Optimus 2X satisfying the ICS O / S will try to do my best. ^ ^ The exact schedule will be announced later passed through. Thank you.

-Optimus 2X upgrade the ICS is currently in effect during the test. Satisfactory ICS O / S is doing our best to provide. Thorough follow-up management offering customer satisfaction you will be the LG Mobile.

-Munuijusin Optimus 2X developed to upgrade the current ICS munuijusin support is in progress and whether or difficult points for giving a concrete answer Thank you for your understanding. Schedules, and submit your concrete contents are as shown

-Optimus 2X munuijusin the current ICS are in progress to upgrade the development. Specific delivery schedule as soon as we'll notice. Thank you

-Optimus 2X test whether the current application of ICS jungeuro giving accurate delivery schedule difficulties Thank you for your understanding. Optimus 2X and related news will be announced later passed through. In addition, LG Mobile, Twitter, verify that the macro will answer

Now this is really amazing, this makes me believed that even those guys on twitter don't even have a real clue what's going on.

So many answers with the same meaning.....:confused:
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Relax buddies by the end of this month or beginning of next month we will get our official ics :-) :-)
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
ya guys, wait until the end of this month, or else the galaxy r gets ics first
[LG Optimus 2x] loipol84:
Dont think so...
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
I bet 50€ that we don't! Anyone brave enough to take the bet? :cool:
[LG Optimus 2x] loipol84:
Btw has any device without NEON got ICS yet;

I have the suspicion that without NEON instruction set JB is undo able....
[LG Optimus 2x] bliizzz:
Ohh lol new lame things lg has started
[LG Optimus 2x] xtrustkillx:
Yes, tegra 2 tablets.
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
I put 50 more into the top of it
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
Well now we know why we ain't gotten ics....

Instead of developing they are stealing U______________U! Shame on them..

What a piece of **** corporation
[LG Optimus 2x] FatherJony:
Neon instructions are a part of the A9 CPU instruction set, and they are mainly used for decoding. The UI is drawn by the GPU which is many times faster than the CPU for this kind of operations, Neon instructions or not. As for decoding, Tegra 2 uses the GPU for that as well, so as many posters have already said before in this thread, the only thing needed for JB is compatible drivers, not extra instructions.
[LG Optimus 2x] nuvo84:
Sorry, I thought it was the same device. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] korgndm:
I'll call your 50 and raise you 200...

LG, it's your turn, what will you do?

- Fold.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
I will seriously take that bet if you're serious!
[LG Optimus 2x] darryd:
i will be a bet witness, tax for me 40% be good...:D
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
OMG, Tonyp you're seriously betting?

So your pretty sure too that ICS is coming very late....
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Yes I have "trust" in LG :D
[LG Optimus 2x] jabooka:
If I see it, then I will beleive it. So many promisses, and nothing happened til now, so why would it be any different this time around.

I'm also sure we will not get it by the months' end.

My first and last LG mobile phone for sure.

ICS update is only a way to extend o2x life until we get enough money to buy propper device from propper company.
[LG Optimus 2x] Blazing angel:
If you get ics, and I guarantee you won't leave this for a while
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
Yeah me too i will not leave o2x too but the next time i buy phone i'll go on samsung but without tegra
[LG Optimus 2x] korgndm:
No-one doubts that the O2X is one of the best dual-core phones in the world. It just can't unleash its full potential with the software that LG provides us. Many ROMS here on the forum do.

Now one thing is for sure: when it comes to customer service and keeping "promises", making us hang off the edge of our seats waiting, LG is horrible.

I honestly can't wait for an LG ICS update, not that I'm interested in using the software, but for the devs here to compile a finished ROM using what they already have.
[LG Optimus 2x] jabooka:
Agree and I know that out phone could be much better than LG made it if there had beed better sw. I'm on temasek 127 + temasek snappy oc kernel and my phone finaly works as it is supposed to. If it is not for our hard working devs, this phone with its bsods, battery drain and lag would be long gone in the bin. A biggest thx to our devs :longliveourdevs:

Back on subject:

Of course, ics is going to be great for our devs so that they can get their hands on those missing drivers and complete that importand upgrade of our roms/kernels.
[LG Optimus 2x] ash6543:
dont know if you guys know this but there is a tegra 2 phone with ics released not long ago,

the phone is called the ZTE mimosa X, dont know if devs can get anything from this though
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
Haha not again please.. Never ending loop xD

Hahahahahahaha
[LG Optimus 2x] FatherJony:
string newComment;

while(true)

{

newComment = getPreviousPageComment();

postComment(newComment);

}

Seriously though, Nvidia shouldn't allow custom implementations of some parts of their SOC. I mean with binary drivers, a single different register will ruin the whole thing. Qualqomm provide their own binary drivers for their gpus, and this reduces community reliance on the vendors. I guess the andreno implementation must be set in stone, unlike the geforce one.
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
from LG France:

"The Optimus 2X will be next to enjoy the updated ICS. We will keep you informed!"

There is also some confirmation from LG Italy but LG Korea and Italy are giving no concrete delivery schedule.
[LG Optimus 2x] korgndm:
Another generic message. Even if it IS true, don't expect an ICS update anytime soon...
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
It would make me laugh if the lg release didnt have any hw acceleration. lol lg always provides **** software.
[LG Optimus 2x] karthik1der:
I think I am the only one who thinks we ll get ICS before a month's time.Because Obviously,LG is releasing ICS according to the list given by them in LG italy facebook page.Optimus 2x is the next on that list.
[LG Optimus 2x] baen:
That wouldn't be funny... :P
[LG Optimus 2x] karthik1der:
Yet another new phone ZTE GRAND X (same tegra 2 as our phone) has ICS.

Seems ICS runs pretty fine on tegra 2 phones and this phone too has 512mb memory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTPwR7U8B8U
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Please at least look one page ahead or use a search for "ZTE" or "GRAND", which both would show you to a couple posts where this has already been reported ;)

Anyways.. who will take my 50€ bet that there won't be ICS in the next 3 weeks now? :D
[LG Optimus 2x] Tranos:
bad news this has also 2.6.35 kernel so maybe no hwaccel
[LG Optimus 2x] slebit:
I don't think that is a problem. It will work on 2.6.35 kernel.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
The kernel won't be the problem of hwa. That's a number, but it's not (really) important.

I'm pretty sure that LG won't update the kernel, but enable hwa anyways.
[LG Optimus 2x] bliizzz:
I guess ur having some of ur friend working at lg :p ur so confident
[LG Optimus 2x] microcris:
Look at HTC ONE X. It is a tegra 3 device (much newer than tegra 2) running ICS natively and it also has the 2.6.35 kernel. I'm not saying that is a good thing, I'm just saying that the kernel number don't make ICS impossible for our phone.
[LG Optimus 2x] slebit:
It actually have 2.6.39.
[LG Optimus 2x] microcris:
your are right, sorry.

Since there was some discussion around the Linux kernel number and there are some people saying that kernel 3.0 should not have that number I want to ask if the Nvidia 2.6 kernel is the real old 2.6 kernel or it is the new 3.0 kernel with the 2.6 number?
[LG Optimus 2x] darryd:
you wrong, it's 2.6.39.4, same like in HTC One X...
[LG Optimus 2x] baen:
you can see cleary in the movie that it is hwaccelerated
[LG Optimus 2x] Evil_enc:
Omg, so fast!! Does the optimus 2x have the same chip set? That harmony one.. I thought that chipset would be dead
[LG Optimus 2x] g0at:
Every morning I check this thread with anticipation, every morning I'm dissapointed..

Every morning I also wonder "How many of these ~2500 posts are actually duplicate?"

... Hey guys, I heard about a new ZTE handset, It's got a tegra2 chip too.... ;)

Still, some positive news re the LG France / Italy tweets.. I guess :-/
[LG Optimus 2x] pandorious:
I couldn't agree more with you...

I hope I wouldn't see any new post until the one that would announce a leak or a full working rom...
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
Hi guys,

I have heard ZTE just released new phone Grand X with Tegra 2 and it has ICS!!!!! So maybe our talented developers can take libraries needed for hwa from this phone? What do you think? :-D :-D :-D
[LG Optimus 2x] wwewwf996:
/facepalm
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
This topic is the topic here for almost 2 days i think try to read back a few pages and you'll see
[LG Optimus 2x] xtrustkillx:
Dont act like tards that guy just wanted to help.
[LG Optimus 2x] hisham027:
Anyone heard abt the ZTE phone...... hold on right there, read this first http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=27713048&postcount=2001 :-)
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
I'm getting sick about the hey guys the zte tegra2... Op should change tittle to ICS/JB news DON'T POST ABOUT ZTE

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[LG Optimus 2x] jabooka:
LOL

:doublefacepalm:
[LG Optimus 2x] ShunSeb47:
PLeas sticky this!
[LG Optimus 2x] kornrullez:
Maybe we will get ics as a weekend pressent!
[LG Optimus 2x] skylinegt77:
more like a new years present XD
[LG Optimus 2x] darkshot:
I hope. I'll wait until September, if not I will go out into the nexus.
[LG Optimus 2x] Spineshankumb:
We never will get ICS because the NVidia is a fuc**** company...for the ZTE it has the Tegra 2 Ventana...the Optimus 2X has the Tegra 2 Harmony and for now we don't have the drivers
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Wow there are at least three totally wrong statements in your one sentence which all have been corrected properly in this thread several times.