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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ironzey:
SKIP TO THE BOTTOM FOR THE QUESTION

I really like the idea of the Galaxy Nexus.

I'm a former Nexus One user, I still have it in the box it came in with the Desktop dock and Car dock too. I'm holding on to it for ever!!!

I passed on the Nexus S because I didn't want a Samsung Phone. I love the way HTC makes their phones. I bought into the hype about their phones feeling "cheap" and "plasticy".

I decided to replace my N1 with a Sensation which has been a pretty big disappointment.

When the GN was announced I decided to swallow my dislike for Samsung's phones and go for it. After reading about the specs it seemed like a decent phone, Nothing groundbreaking just decent maybe even a little sub par when compared to some of the top of the line phones. The only really stand out things about it are the software, which most of the top tier phones will be getting upgraded to at some point.

NFC? It's cool but I can't see using it that much. I think I've run into one other person that was using a Nexus phone and I didn't care to swap info with them. I'd probably pay for stuff with it but I still have to carry a wallet so it's not going to replace my debit card.

Camera? 5mp that's less than 8mp seems like a pretty big step down from what

every

"top tier" phone out there. Hopefully the low light performance will be really good but somehow I'm expecting disappointment.

Big Screen? I love it big, but then I read about the Galaxy Note.

Pure Google? I've been there with everything up to Gingerbread and I have to say it was barren. I'm on sense now and I've tried (a few times) giving it up to use ADW to get that stock launcher experience I didn't last long. Compared to Sense 3 (I think) Gingerbread is VERY ugly and misses out on a lot of niceties that I've grown accustomed to in Sense.

At least it'll probably get updates first.

It seems like every time I turn around some company is releasing a phone that bests the GN in every way, SGSII, RAZOR and today I read freaking LG has got a phone with a killer display more pixels or something like that.

With that in mind how do you keep your excitement up about this phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slowz3r:
when it comes to phones, its the software that makes the device, not the hardware......with a Nexus device you will always be on the latest and greatest, nothing is more frustrating to me than to be behind 1 or 2 software releases
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jivemaster:
Megapixels in cameras are not everything.

The support on Nexus phones is unparalleled. Samsung make good phones. I would get over the plastic hate and get the Nexus. You are on the Nexus forum so you clearly want us to talk you into it ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ironzey:
That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.

Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ironzey:
I'm totally here to be talked into it :D.

I will totally admit to unfairly jumping on the "Samsung makes cheap feeling phones" bandwagon. HTC phones have weight, Samsung phones are light.

Yes Megapixels aren't everything but they do count for something.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Of course they're getting updated, but they'll be updated 3+ months after the Galaxy Nexus comes out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [hfm]:
That Samsung build quality stigma is FUD. Is all plastic, but my nexus s is the most solid feeling phone I've had. Light and rigid. I've dropped it on tile and wood floor and keep it in my pocket with no protection except that it's by itself. It still looks mint with zero screen scratches since March.

Don't buy into the megapixel myth. The sensor quality and optics are more important. 5mp is more than any cell phone needs, and provides plenty of resolution for larger prints. most use cases are social networking which does not need even a fraction of that resolution. Wait to see camera reviews and comparisons after people get their hands on shipping product.

You do sound a little confused about what phone you want. There's plenty of good products from various manufacturers with good qualities. What you will get from the GN is vanilla Android, timely updates, a solid all-around performer from a hardware standpoint (maybe not the best at any one aspect, but a formidable complete experience), and the warm fuzzies that super geek Android fans get for nexus devices. That may not be right for you, but that's what it is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ryman222:
My first android phone was the Droid X, I loved it as am android noob, then I rooted, then I flashed my first ROM, then CM7 came out for the DX, then I dropped it in a puddle... I was pretty disappointed when my insurance sent me an X2 as a replacement, but I've made it the most enjoyable I can by making my own ROM for it. Now I realize Moto will never stop locking their phones and hardware specs aren't everything, its about the software, which is why I'm 90% sure I'm going to be picking up the Gnex when my upgrade comes at the end of January. I've never owned a Samsung phone and am still skeptical about the build quality, hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised when I buy it :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lil Jones:
What do people equate to build quality?

Do you know a phone that people says has the best build quality?

The iPhone 4 and 4s

Do you know what phone when drops shatters?

Thats right the iPhone 4 and 4s.

Judging build quality by feel alone is stupid. Quality means the grade of the materials used and how they are used. A plastic phone using really good plastic is a higher quality phone then a shattering glass phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
The iPhone 4 and 4S are extremely high quality. They're just... made out of glass. Obviously they're going to break when you drop them. Just like a window will break when you throw a cinder block at it. That doesn't mean the window is low quality....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NexusDro:
Their reinforced glass is not as good as gorilla glass, I heard.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] JTECJ:
The one aspect that people seem to be taking for granted also is that because of all these specs and the Nexus name. Galaxy Nexus is going to have a much larger developer following for rooted customization. Also, when you are looking for a new product what better way to narrow down what to get than to ask an expert...well, developers largely choose Nexus.

(Before someone attacks me with the typical response "not everyone wants to root ". No not everyone does. This was Simply offered as one more possitive to add to the Nexus checklist. )

When it comes down to it. everyone should buy what they want cause no one else cares.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] th0r615:
You don't buy the Nexus for the hardware. If my Nexus One would have worked on Verizon I would still be using it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] keatre:
Let's be honest, if you're regularly browsing this site, chances are you're atleast toying with the idea of rooting the device (if not in the, "The thing will be rooted before I get a text" category).

The Megapixel hype is just that. It's kind of like America's fascination with horsepower -- yes your GT500 outputs crazy numbers, but it still can't turn.

-insert flaming-
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] farfromovin:
Nother Sensation owner here waiting to bounce on the GN for dev support. I will run CM9 or a MiUI ICS variant more than likely. I'd prefer to have the most choice for kernels and roms over slightly better hardware. Do we really need 4 cores in a phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] axion68:
No, that still is the case. Even though a manufacture says they will release an update it will never be timely. As manufactures produce more and more models of phones their support goes down the drain. My Samsung Vibrant never got an official update that was promised. The thunderbolt finally got gingerbread.

My G1 was my favorite phone. Great support by htc, google and devs. It always had the latest version of android, even when its hardware could barely run it.

I would rather have a well supported phone than the highest spec phone. While the galaxy nexus appears to have average hardware it will have great android support and dev support.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xManMythLegend:
Availability of developers.

CAN'T STAND OS delays.

Beautiful bezel.

No HD screen + RGB notification combos on Tmo.

That's if this retarded phone ever comes out for Tmo.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gogol:
Inused to be HTC supporter. But after I got The old Desire, I vowed to not get any HTC anymore. I dislike Sense and replaced with LP pro.

Then I got the Nexus S, and feel really like the design and overal feeling. All blacks, with super Amoled, seems elegant and mysterious.

And it is much lighter as well.

On top of that Qualcomm is not as fast as Hummingbird, Exynos, or now TI Omap.

Nuff said, no HTC anymore.

Nexus phone all the way :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
I tried to use a SGSII but couldn't live with it. Was coming from a Nexus S and before that I owned a N1. It just didn't feel right. It came shipped with 2.3 then after some time 2.3.4 hit when I sold it a month ago 2.3.5 still wasn't official available. In addition they added a strange bootloader which stopped you from flashing CM7. I don't know exactly what happened there but it was one of the points which led me to sell the phone. I'm using a Desire now until I receive my 100% free GN.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] synaesthetic:
I'll probably just keep my NS for now. All other smartphones sound lame in comparison to the NS + Voodoo Sound.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dbnaruto:
Because I'm coming from a Droid Eris...

Mind you, I love what this phone has become ♥. The Dev community is AMAZING and they have kept this phone running the latest and greatest ASOP, (unofficial) CM, and Sense ROMs. I can't seem to destroy it (it doesn't fear concrete or asphalt) and it always has signal (Verizon).

That said, it has been a VERY long road, full of months without Root, laggy and out-of-date 2.1 sense, an ARMv6 528MHz processor (~710 at top OC), and faulty screen/trackball/USB parts. It was a good first smartphone but that time is up.

Any semi-high end phone will be a godsend, but I really want a LTE, Dev popular, Nexus on Verizon and here it is! And while most people don't care, I really want a phone with a RGB notification light. I don't need up-to-the-second updated specs because something new and shiny is only a day away. The GNexus is a fine upgrade and I can't wait.

AND:

• 5MP Camera? I already have one, so not a downgrade.

• Single Core GPU? The Eris doesn't even have a dedicated GPU >.>

• No SD Card Slot? Ehh...

• Flimsy feel? I dare you to feel my cheap plastic phone.

That is why :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] onthecouchagain:
The Galaxy Nexus itself is 50/50 for me personally. Sometimes I'm madly in love with it and am certain I want one, and other times, it's passable and waiting for the Nexus 4 is the clear decision.

But ICS... that, is love. I cannot wait for my NS to get it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
It would probably be a harder decision for me to instantly upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus if I already had a Nexus S.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] onthecouchagain:
Yeah for sure. Ironically, the one thing that is really alluring for me is the LED notification light. I sorely miss it from my BB days.

My situation is a little different too: my sister needs a new/better phone (her Vibrant is dying on her) and I'm reluctant to give into Tmobile and tie her up for another two years (our contracts just ended, so we have the power of freedom at this point) just so she can afford to get a new phone via subsidizing.

Given even the mid-range unlocked Android phones are anywhere from 300-500 dollars, I might as well put that money toward the GN and give my sister my Nexus S? Edit: I forgot to mention that I'm buying her the phone for Xmas. So... yeah. Even at subsidized prices at 199 (with two years) I could put that 200 toward the GN, and keep us off contract by giving her my NS? ... ah, decisions...

I don't know. A lot will depend on the GN price, and whether it'll be sold unlocked or not.

Hm. Sorry this got personal.
[Nexus S General] obsanity:
MODS!!!

I know you're trying to stop a million threads about the ICS source code but you are locking ALL of them and pointing us to another one that's also locked.

Can you leave one thread actually opened so we can talk about it???

Edit:

ok, you can lock this one but leave this one opened.
[Nexus S General] matt2053:
Try this thread, it's actually relevant to our device and so it belongs in this forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1346954

It surely won't be locked or moved.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toonhead85:
So I have a I-9020A with at&t. I have rooted followed by flashing -su and roms instructions using instructions on the net. But after following that process and then going backwards (flashing stock w/ no root locking bootloader) I have realized after that I have more questions.

So first: Unlocking the Bootloader erases the phone. Unlocking the bootloader is needed to flash CWM and SU. I have read many many things about NANDROID, how is NANDROID different from CWM?

So I guess my next question is: How does one remove SU? In the process of rooting and flashing CWM and ROMs I make a backup prior to going to deep... that Backup will have SU, I have unrooted, but SU is still on the phone and I cannot seem to remove it.

Another question is: where are the data files on the phone for apps like Plants vs Zombies? I would like to move them off my phone prior to root, though I'm not sure if that is possible (is it?).

The last question is: If I wanted to muck around with ICS and the source code, is it as simple as flashing the source as explained on the google site? because they make it sound rather easy.

Thanks for any and all help,

toonhead
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] obsanity:
Sounds like you should have read more.

When you open the bootloader (the lock) it will wipe your personal data off the phone (not SD storage). This just means you get it as if you just bought it from the store. There is no way around it but happens only once and you'll never have to do it again. Unless you lock it back :)

Once the bootloader is unlocked you can now flash a custom recovery such as CWM which will let you manage and back up your phone with whatever ROM you want/have.

Once recovery is on your device you also have to root the phone. For this you'll need a zip flashable file with the superuser apk and SU binary files. Flash it in recovery and you should be good to go.

The last step is to install a ROM of your choice. You can just run what the phone has and it will work fine and even take updates without a problem. However, every time you want to flash something you'll need to flash CWM again because the stock image flashes the default recovery on reboot. There is a file you can delete to prevent this from happening. I forgot the path so look around. However, I would recommend you flash a stock ROM which already comes loaded with good stuff and all other things are done for you :) Just stop by the development section and pick a ROM you like.

Naroid is just a backup.

Oh, and BTW, mocking around with ICS... I would leave that for later. First get your head around basic flashing/rooting stuff. Changing the source code requires knowledge of code and even phone hardware. I'm guessing it's not for you just yet :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
i was going to write something similar. toonhead85 you should do a bit more research and reading before you start hacking on your phone. youve hearts in the right place, but youre not quite ready just yet. at least take small steps at first ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moritzio:
A little more clarification or nandroid backups:

Nandroid is a specific type of backup of the phone's system files. I think that includes system rom and radio. I not sure if any data is included in the backup. You should make a nandroid backup of the stock rom bbefore you flash any custom roms. If something goes wrong with a rom flash or if you want to restore to a previous stock or custom rom, you can restore from the backups you have made. You create these nandroid backups by booting into recovery and selecting the backup option (I think maybe named backup and restore). Backups are usually found on your SD card, but you can copy them to your computer to save additional copies.

If you want to also backup apps, get a good backup program from the market. Two that I have used are Titanium Backup for Root and MyBackups for Root. They can backup and restore apps and data as well as system data.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toonhead85:
Thanks for all of the amazing replys. I do know that I am not at the point where I wanna muck around in the system to much as this is my one and only phone. But I would like to at some point.

But something I wanna know is this:

If in flash CWM, can I use it without root? Say to make a backup of the stock rom before flashing SU? I only ask because I am currently at work and can't test the idea.

Another question is this:

I know how to get to the stock recovery, but from what I read you use the VOL UP to get the "Menu". When I push any (hardware) button I get nothing and the image being displayed is an Android with a triangle and there is an exclimation point in it. Any thoughts?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
a nandroid saves everything in your phone, just how it is at that moment. and when you restore it, your phone goes back to that very moment you made that nandroid backup. all your data remain. everything. its like you didnt do anything in between backing up and restoring :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toonhead85:
and you need root to use NANDROID? Or just an unlocked bootloader and to flash it over?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
unlocked bootloader
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toonhead85:
FANTASTIC!!! Thank you all so very much!!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] obsanity:
And CWM recovery.

You don't need root to backup but remember that when you reboot it will flash back to stock recovery (the triangle). You can simply repeat the adb command to flash CWM again.

Sent from my Nexus S 4G
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toonhead85:
So I could flash unlock my bootloader > flash CWM > Make a backup and save it to my computer then when i reboot my phone it would automatically reflash the stock recovery? and if this is correct, then all i would need to do is flash CWM to restore the saved backup?

So here's a question, is it the action of flashing SU that keeps the phone from removing CWM and reinstalling stock recovery?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moritzio:
You must rename the /system/etc/install-recovery.sh file or it will keep replacing the stock recovery. See this post, item 2.
[EVO 4G General] ReppinTheSouth:
After seeing all the set ups in the ROM/Kernel combo thread, I put V6 supercharge on my phone last night. Maybe it's too early but I am not seeing any improvement. Let me add that I always exit out of apps using the back button vs. the home button which normally kills the app thus keeping my RAM more free. I don't know if that's why I'm not seeing any difference or what. My phone is already snappy so I'm not complaining. Just wanted to see what sort of results everyone else was getting.
[EVO 4G General] Notorious:
You set it up wrong
[EVO 4G General] ReppinTheSouth:
Outstanding. Thanks for the help. I know exactly what to do now.

Besides the genius that replied, anyone else have any constructive feedback.
[EVO 4G General] giovanny02:
Did it say the settings/minfrees stuck after you rebooted?
[EVO 4G General] atapia984:
Make sure the "Supercharge" script under /system/etc/init.d is set to "Run at Boot" and "Run as Root," using Script Manager of course, and then Reboot your device.
[EVO 4G General] ReppinTheSouth:
Yes it stuck and yes I am running the script in the system folder. Maybe a better question to ask is what sort of improvements have others seen and what setting are you using.

Thank you both for your replies.
[EVO 4G General] HipKat:
I'm using 8 at the moment. It's hard to tell, because this is a new ROM for me, but I ran 9 on MIUI and there was definite, visible improvement in response time.
[Defy General] coredual:
Google have released the sourcecode of Android 4.0.1, when can it work on Defy?

Looking forward to CM9~
[Defy General] efpob:
ask again in 2 months

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11/15/cyanogenmod-9-the-countdown-to-ice-cream-sandwich-begins/
[Defy General] repsak:
Hope it will arrive
[LG Optimus 2x] yathaid:
Hey Guys

I know am not supposed to report bugs on nightlys, but this has put me in a cinch. When I updated to 202, my google account was removed for some reason. So I am not able to sign into market or basically do anything related to my google account. In Settings->Accounts->Add Account, the google option is missing, though my facebook and whatsapp accounts are just fine.

How do I manually add a google account?

Thanks!

Yathaid
[LG Optimus 2x] Shinydude100:
I've had this problem when cwm flashing a Gingerbread-only modification to Froyo or below. It may of also been something you deleted in system/app.

By "202" do you mean EI22? What were you doing before and after this happened?
[LG Optimus 2x] yathaid:
Ah sorry for not being clear. I updated to the cm_p990_full_202 nightly that just got released. I restored my previous backup and the account was fine, tried updating again to the newer build and the same thing happened.

Yathaid
[LG Optimus 2x] hisham027:
Same happened to me when I updated to build 200. I restored my backup and flashed the update on it again. Now the Google account option is back.

---------- Post added at 07:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:55 AM ----------

Btw, how did you flash the update, manually or using ROM Manager. It happened to me while I updated the ROM using ROM Manager.
[LG Optimus 2x] HerrKuk:
Hi

It might be a problem with gapps (Google apps) it happen sometimes when flashing cm. Dont know why..

Anyway heres the link to latest gapps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip

Flash in recovery