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[HTC EVO 3D] colestein:
Sorry to sound stupid, but will unlocking and rooting through the HTC method mean that I won't be able to run ICS at any time? Even as a ROM?

In other words, if I unlock through HTC and root with the current known methods, am I screwed out of ever being able to run ICS?

Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] Twolazyg:
C:\android>fastboot oem writecid HTC__001
...
(bootloader) shooter_init_sd, SD card already power on
(bootloader) sdcc_init_memory_device done
(bootloader) [FAT_ERROR] fat_open_file: can not find SMART_IO.CRD
(bootloader) [JAVACARD_ERR] SMART_IO.CRD cann't find
OKAY [ 0.187s]
finished. total time: 0.188s

C:\android>fastboot getvar cid
cid: SPCS_001
finished. total time: -0.000s

C:\android>

Duce: HTC__001. Two underscores. Won't say wrong cid, but it doesn't change anything because we do not have SMART_IO.CRD on our sd card, also, our sd card is not a JAVA card, meaning we don't have permission to edit vaules in that part of our phone. If we had a JAVA card with SMART_IO.CRD, we wouldn't need to change our CID to downgrade HBOOT, We could simply "fastboot oem writesecureflag 0" and be S-off.

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No, unlocking via htcdev just means you are able to root your phone. you can still get updates if you're on a sprint rom, and take them without breaking root.

ALSO: Everyone really needs to get off of revolutionary's nuts, they will NOT be finding an exploit for 1.5. EVER. Go ask them. They have no need to get s-off when they've already done it for themselves. Quit making stupid threads about it. If you really want S-off, test some **** your damn self and risk bricking your phone. I've done it a few times, yet no one has offered me any money for doing it. NO RISK NO REWARD.
[HTC EVO 3D] nanobutter:
fastboot. I wonder if there is another way.
[HTC EVO 3D] scoobrel:
I had my phone rooted with 1.4 s-off, i brought it in yesterday for repair and they installed the stock software and then it said hboot 1.5 s-off Locked. i did the htc unlock method and now its hboot 1.5 s-off unlocked.
[HTC EVO 3D] Twolazyg:
you didn't get a new phone like he did. that's why you're still s-off.
[HTC EVO 3D] scoobrel:
oh ok, that sucks because im getting a replacement soon because im still having issues with the one i have.
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Clearly we are trying what little we know how to try, I spent hours dicking around in fastboot and still don't understand a fraction of what the revo crew can do. And no one is on their nuts, one guy mentioned this thread on IRC and I sent them a tweet. As you mentioned they have no need to do it, thus we are offering an incentive.
[HTC EVO 3D] Evo-3D:
Rev's jumping ship?

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Thanks the explanation that I was looking for.

Thank you.
[HTC EVO 3D] xPSYCHOTRONx:
"ICS is the next version of the Android OS. When it ships via OTA on Sprint, chances are there will be another HBOOT - something like 1.51."

This would make sense if that's what devs are waiting for, but why wouldn't they just say something if they are or aren't waiting?
[HTC EVO 3D] kc_exactly:
15 here if they can do it before the ICS update.

Sent using the premium XDA app on my EVO 3D.
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
What the bloody ****!!?!?!? I can't adb push or sync with this

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Administrator>cd downloads

C:\Users\Administrator\Downloads>adb push HTC_IME.apk /system/app/HTC_IME.apk
failed to copy 'HTC_IME.apk' to '/system/app/HTC_IME.apk': Read-only file system

C:\Users\Administrator\Downloads>

:( 25USD from me, and I don't care when it comes
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
first type adb remount
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
facepalm

You're my hero.

Still obnoxious that I have to adb remount each time, I use adb for pretty much everything.

Heh, sorry, un-hijacking thread, moved all this to my ADB sync thread

P.S. Solved :)
[HTC EVO 3D] focbuster78:
I am confused what you're trying to do? :confused: Could you try to explain it to me?:)
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
With an S-OFF phone you can use adb to push files to pretty much anywhere on the phone. There is a function of adb I discovered, adb sync, which will allow you to quickly apply any changes to a rom if you download from the SVN trunk.

LiquidSoltice's SVN guide

My guide for setting up adb sync
[HTC EVO 3D] focbuster78:
Oh okay so you're HTCUnlocked with HBoot 1.50?
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Unfortunately. I did have 1.30 S-OFF thanks to unrevoked, then downgraded to ENGR HBOOT. Then the digitizer on my phone developed a dead spot, the replacement phone they gave me had 1.50 :mad:
[HTC EVO 3D] focbuster78:
I know how you feel I had 1.40 S-OFF and I brought the phone in to sprint because of faulty charging port and the replacement phone had 1.50 too :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Smoothrob:
I'm in for $20.. I'm gonna want ICS also though! I just want S-off 1.50 unlocked with a stock stable ROM..
[HTC EVO 3D] Twolazyg:
Lol, keep holding your breath and wait for something that's not happening.
[HTC EVO 3D] Karl:
how is your statement helping this thread
[HTC EVO 3D] Twolazyg:
Here's what started the reason for your stupid question. How is your question helping this thread?
[HTC EVO 3D] Karl:
ok you win, now lets stop spamming the thread
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
I've got the hboot 1.5 blues too. Repaired my phone and they upped it.

Throw $20 in the kitty for me.
[HTC EVO 3D] stanglifemike:
I'll pay $30 no problem, probably much more. I'm unlocked with Revo the day it came out on my 1.4 hboot, BUT now i have a screen issue. I am honestly thinking about dealing with the screen issue as its less of a headache to me than hboot 1.5 would be. Maybe they'll get 1.5 soon....
[HTC EVO 3D] kc_exactly:
Screen Issue

I just got a new phone because my last one broke.

I am not going to even bother rooting it again unless someone finds a new method.

I have already promised money. I will add one troy ounce of silver bullion. I will mail it to the person who cracks the code.
[HTC EVO 3D] focbuster78:
What year is the coin?
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Dude... It's printed on the coin, 1990
[HTC EVO 3D] ckoadiyn:
Think he may have been confused by the word troy haha which is measurement for metals
[HTC EVO 3D] Lanaka:
Wow, I'm impressed, by my count, the pot's now at 710.03$. That includes 25.03$US (converted from 25$AU) and 15$US (current value of 1 troy oz silver, but doesn't include the collector's value of said 1990 coin however). And this in just 8 days.

EDIT: Price for silver is a guesstimation as it's 4am and am too tired to look it up. ;)

EDIT: Might as well add my 20$US too. So new total is now at $730.03. Hboot1.50:rolleyes:
[HTC EVO 3D] sacredabyss:
And Hboot .000012 as well ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] kc_exactly:
It is at work. That is just a picture I found online. It is not currency. It is bullion. I think silver was trading around 30 buck USD yesterday. So that's the value. Maybe a bit more since it's 20 years old.

Get me root before ics to get the treasure.
[HTC EVO 3D] xHausx:
Silver's gone up a bit here lately, it was at almost $50 an ounce for awhile there

http://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html
[HTC EVO 3D] Johnabis:
does anyone know if they are working on it now that we started the bounty?
[HTC EVO 3D] kc_exactly:
Sorry

Jumped ship. 3rd evo 3d in a month. I just have bad luck. PM if you guys get this before ICS so I can honor my offer. I won't be on this side of the forum anymore.
[HTC EVO 3D] CyborgBourne:
I would gladly throw down $25 for this cause.
[HTC EVO 3D] P.Mobile:
im good for 25$.. skratch that!!!!!!! its been way to long and i sold my 1.50 and got a 1.40!!!!!! yea buddy!!!!!!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Febby:
I personally jumped back to an EVO 4G, the lack of many ROM's on the EVO 3D was a let down and the camera IMO was very crappy even with the so called 8 MP mods that never did anything haha... I'll be waiting for the next big dog ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] ninten5:
I can't take it anymore! I just read about SD card boost but I need root for it. Can I do that if I rooted with HTC method? I don't care about the warranty, mine has been voided.
[HTC EVO 3D] mwalt2:
If all you need is root (superuser), then yes. I think the only thing you can't do with HTC's method is downgrade the HBOOT version (may be others, but you can flash ROMs, kernels, etc.).
[HTC EVO 3D] il Duce:
Also no splash screens :(
[HTC EVO 3D] bballer71418:
Don't really feel like reading the whole thread so i dont know if this has already been posted but @Evil_DevNull on twitter said he may have finally cracked the 1.5 HBoot. I have 1.4 with revolutionary so I'm not to worried about it but maybe you all could hit him up on twitter to see the progress
[HTC EVO 3D] Jrex:
That is great news, but, I already went the HTC method! :( If he succeeds maybe it will get us s-off. Still awesome news though! Man these devs never cease to amaze me!
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Evil_DevNull hate's XDA though, so don't mention this thread, he does know about this bounty. If he releases it on RootzWiki just donate there.
[HTC EVO 3D] Johnabis:
Awesome News.. I checked his twitter and he is looking for a few test phones..
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
I tweeted him and offered to test his rooting on my phone. We shall see what he says.
[HTC EVO 3D] jagox5:
Any update??
[HTC EVO 3D] thizzlemania91:
Evil devnull said he would have this as Christmas present for you guys. So you guys shld really thank the guy :)
[HTC EVO 3D] LostRib:
Now I'm Excited
[HTC EVO 3D] focbuster78:
He needed a tester phone to work with, so i sent him one of mine.

follow him on twitter to get updates @Evil_DevNull.

He wants me to pass this message along!
[HTC EVO 3D] xPSYCHOTRONx:
This is exciting news.

Sent from my EVO 3D w/ Tapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] sacredabyss:
Did he actually mention EVO 3D GSM version (eg. Hboot .000012)? I hope our GSMers would have a big present as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] mildlydisturbed:
I can't tell what the other person is talking about, but he did mention GSM hboot 1.49.0011+, which I believe is the GSM for the 3D...
[HTC EVO 3D] focbuster78:
If you have a spare gsm phone send it to him, that would speed up the root process.
[HTC EVO 3D] biphobip:
I am in for $10. I would pledge more, but I don't actually need it anymore. Lost my EVO3D so bought a new one on eBay and the one good thing about being out $350 was that it showed up with HBoot 1.40
[HTC EVO 3D] sacredabyss:
That sounds great, can't wait to unlock & s-off my 3vo.

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Will do if I have one, lol :D
[HTC EVO 3D] -Ho-:
I asked on his twitter...

He say he only got limited access to CDMA version...

I guess there are no present for us at this moment...:(

Hope the same exploit exists in 0011/0012...:o
[HTC EVO 3D] focbuster78:
I really hope you're eating your words right now... :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Lanaka:
Actually, it's both. Even though nobody expects anyone to actually SPEND it!

@kc_exactly and xHausx: Yup, like I originally said, it WAS 4am at the time and didn't feel like checking on the latest. Plus I DID forget that, like gold, silver had been enjoying a period of increased volatility in it's price so did'nt adjust upward accordingly. I used to trade metal commodities and made a nice chunk of change, BUT, prefer trading currencies as it's more flexible (for me that is). K, nuff thread jacking from me...

Lol, know the feeling, I'm getting frustrated with my E3D. I'm having serious issues with the camera. The best I got it to work is with Chogardjr3D's Dev Edition ROM. The cam's control displays all worked, but NO picture. I could also take pictures (blindly), but the pics was 'distorted,' best word I could come up with. Everything looked like it was aged a half-century or so. I'll send ye a picture if you wish, just pm me. It's wierd, in a sorta cool way. Anyway, I'm seriously tempted to go back to my E4G too! ARGH, sorry, I know, I promised no more thread jacking... :D

Cool, glad to hear of it, am looking forward to that.

I know what ye mean, I too hope whatever Evil_DevNull came up with will work with E3D with HTCDev (semi-)Root.

Thanks for the headsup.

...hmmm, Star Trek fan, huh? Next Generation eh? (Yeah, thread jacking, again! nvm)

Ah, you lucky stud! I tried that here in Hawaii, and every phone I've checked had already had the 1.5 hboot update applied already! :( (...so far)

-Lan
[HTC EVO 3D] Crackanug:
Not sure if this will help anyone, but I was able to get temp root with hboot 1.50.

HTC however found a way to really make writing new data to the phones partitions difficult. It can be done, after many trial and errors I was able to get some data pushed to a partition and not have it get overwritten on next boot... However now the phone is slightly bricked (can still access bootloader and fastboot). I am working to see if I can downgrade the hboot to 1.40 and run revolutionary's perm root. Not 100% sure how, but doing research.
[HTC EVO 3D] Kidmet:
Anything new?
[HTC EVO 3D] P.Mobile:
please keep us posted.. i been wanting to root my 3d for a while now.. im not feeling the htc way.. im trying to hold off as long as i can..
[HTC EVO 3D] armonwilson888:
Add 10 to the bounty from me I will paypal him as soon as it is released
[HTC EVO 3D] Evo-3D:
Question: Can you just take the data off of a <1.50 HBOOT and work it that way?
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that, the bootloader is it's own partition. Without S-OFF the only safe way to write over HBOOT is using HBOOT, which will refuse an older version or an unsigned version.
[HTC EVO 3D] xlxcrossing:
2011 almost gone...so painful to be stuck on this Godforsaken thing. OG EVO days, I want you back.
[HTC EVO 3D] SheWolf88pr:
feeling ur pain :/ i miss the days when i could just flash watever i wanted without using my computer
[HTC EVO 3D] k2buckley:
You still can. Just use joeykrims flash image GUI app from the market.
[HTC EVO 3D] Zoolander99:
Bump
[HTC EVO 3D] Crackanug:
As per what USSENTERNCC1701E stated, no. Even if you do take apart a different hboot and reassemble to flash, it wont work. From what I have read/tested and or gathered, the only way is to bypass the signature check to flash a different hboot allowing a downgrade (I hope I stated that correct, if I didn't someone could clarify). I will keep messing around with it, but I have a baby on the way so time is limited.

Unbricked the phone, just trial and error with different methods as of now. See my response to the guy below for more.

That is what I read going into this, I knew it would be difficult. I just hate not having root (non HTCDev root that is). I am about to dismantle the phone to do a little probeing of the board. Going to see if jtag is a possibility in any way. I don't know if it is even possible or if anyone else has done it before. But I like to take **** apart to see what I can find out. Just waiting on a few parts to be delivered.
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Have you looked into TrevE's thread on QPST Download Mode? There's a bit there that may be a good launch point for you, unfortunately it's sorta dead right now...
[HTC EVO 3D] fallenraven75:
my wife hates the 3d

we have been rooting and flashing custom roms since moby **** was a minnow. her 3d has some phisical issues and we used insurance to get her a new one. well it was loaded with the 1.5 and i am stuck. so is the htc method way the ONLY way or have others cracked the code. i know revolutionary is not an option yet.
[HTC EVO 3D] Jrex:
Unfortunately, HTC is the only method as of now... :(
[HTC EVO 3D] fallenraven75:
thankyou. can you gain s off and flash a recovery with this method. i have been reading alot today and cant seem to pin it down. some people are having luck and some seem to be just as stuck as i am.
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
S is still on after using HTC method you can still flash kernels and what not just read up on it in the Dev section on XDA
[HTC EVO 3D] Lanaka:
Aargh!

I give up, still struggling with my e3d's camera problem. As far as i can tell, I have a corrupted or bad rom (as in read-only-memory) wherein either the hboot or (more likely) the radio is bad. Unfortunately, short of unrooting, relinking my e3d back to sprint, reinstall the full stock rom AND update to the latest ota stuffs, THEN reroot the danged thing and reinstall everything and switch the bleepin phone back to my carrier, Im outta tricks and patience. Not wanting to have to do that Ive finally threw in the towel and reactivated my e4g. Despite of it having only 1 x 1GHz proc and less than half the ram available vs the e3d.

Fyi, while im back on the e4g, my word is still good. Should someone, anyone, comes up with a working, legit s-off, radio/hboot-flashable root method, my $20US is still on the table. OPer, may I suggest opening the offer to not just the revolutionary guys, but to ANYONE who actually delivers the good?

Lan
[HTC EVO 3D] ExploreMN:
I'm really curious about these bounties I see for various phones. I remember a user here who was doing custom paint jobs and so many people said "I'll pay blah blah" for them and I'm pretty sure most people screwed him over.

So how much of this bounty is actually sitting in a ePot somewhere waiting for a dev that can claim it and how much if it is vapor-cash? Who is holding the money and how do you know they won't just keep it if 1.5H root is never accomplished?

I would gladly chip in $10-20 but I'm skeptical of sending it off to some unknown PayPal account without some kind of assurance/insurance, like the person holding it is the owner of XDA, or whatever and something like "If it is not made accomplished by XX/XX/XXXX all users will be refunded their donation amount."

Does this make me sound paranoid?
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
It makes you sound like someone who won't get ****ed over, ergo wise.
[HTC EVO 3D] patrao_n:
when and if it is done I am sure most of the money "promised" will never go to the sec who accomplished it. these bounty threads are worthless.
[HTC EVO 3D] Crackanug:
Maybe so, but I can only speak for myself when I say that I do it because I want to. Does it help, or is it nice if some people throw you a little cash for your work, yup! But that is not why some of us spend hours looking at code or trying different methods to find ways to crack our phones.

I am no superficial person or gloat, but for me, finding a crack in something that everyone else has given up on or says that it can't be done... It's fuel for my fire and makes me work that much harder to show it can be done. The recognition gained from achieving what others cannot or gave up on is worth more than any bounty the community can serve up. IMO of course.
[HTC EVO 3D] SteelH:
Just another meaningless reply.
[HTC EVO 3D] P.Mobile:
yea they can take my name off that list now its been way to long!! i sold my evo with hboot 1.50 like 2 weeks ago and baught one with hboot 1.40!!!!!!! screw that to long of a wait!!! hey if i didnt sell my 1.50 i would have paid up but i already waited months and nada!!!!! still hope they crack it for the people still with 1.50.. im so glad i didt to the htc method.. bunch of b.s...
[HTC EVO 3D] Shinare:
Well poop, just got my 3d... made sure I was all up-to-date... read the instructions, watched the videos, downloaded all the software to root and su... got to reading and found out I goofed up by updating and getting the HBOOT 1.50. All I wanted to do was root so I could install some apps on my stock rom (ie wifitether). *sigh* heres to hoping they get this done soon. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] aaronagis:
id throw 50 ... my beloved 3d took a dive from my pocket, and into a large mudpuddle... and i just opened my insurance replacement... its 1.50 DAMNIT! Everything was gravy with my old one with 1.40 ... I just want that again. :(
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
This is NOT going to happen. The reason for the delay of getting the HTC unlock in the first place is because they were spending all that time making it airtight. It didnt take them over a month to release an unlock. It took them over a month to engineer it so that it could not be circumvented.

So... good luck!! These guys aren't going to waste their time when there are other things to spend time on.
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
I'm looking into a possible downgrade method. Not too confident, but I figure it can't hurt to try.

Looking for help from someone with either HBOOT 1.30 or 1.40, Revolutionary S-OFF; and running rooted stock ROM or a modded Sense ROM based off 1.13.651.7 (to check, home -> menu -> settings -> About phone -> Software information, Software number).

Could someone with that please post a dump of /misc. To do this

adb shell
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 of=/sdcard/misc.img skip=4716545 count=2045

That may error out, if it does

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p34 of=/sdcard/misc.img

Then just copy misc.img from your sdcard, zip it up and attach the zip to a post here.

Thanks :)
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
When it comes to the hboots . Why can't someone take 1.4 and 1.5 to see what code changed find a spot that has been messed with. See if there any new holes.
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
I think most of the people with that level of skill are content to let us with 1.50 just use HTC Unlock. Which we can't really blame them for, it's good enough for most of what we want to do.
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
I think it could be done in Linux. Most of the files seem to be java based among the other stuff . It's pretty much all code. I think that is the way to get in look at the old code and see what changes in the new hboot vs older one.
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
My laptop hates linux (been through like 12 distros and only one could even use my graphics chip)

I did find a tool for upacking .nb0 on Windows (A688 tools) unfortunately I haven't been able to find it hosted anywhere but Megaupload so far :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Crackanug:
It is possible to see what has changed. The problem is getting the old to overwrite 1.5 which is proving to be a big PITA at the moment.
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Bummer you ever try Linux bactrack distro?

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I'm sure Linux has a tool just need to read up on it. They have everything :D I have fedora on my asus gaming republic series laptop and two ssd drives .
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Not too sure which one's I've tried :confused: I'll check it out when I get a chance, though it'll be a couple weeks till I can risk a whole day with no computer.

In the mean time, I'm gonna see what I can do about replacing or patching /misc, if I can downgrade the HBOOT, the there's no need to look for a exploit in 1.50
[HTC EVO 3D] Crackanug:
Just thought I would send this your way.

A688 Tools d/l v3.5 (not sure if for windows yet, im d/l now)

http://www.2shared.com/file/mBtQF3P3/A688_Tools_V35.htm
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
Well, I was able to patch /misc and downgrade from 2.17.651.5 to 2.08.651.3 Which is cool, but effectively useless since it's still HBOOT 1.50 When I tried to go to 1.13.651.7 I got an HBOOT older error, which is new, but again useless. Will tinker some more, see what I can bash out. I know now that /misc is reset on reboot with Locked S-ON, I guess I'll see what other blocks will hold over a reboot :confused:
[HTC EVO 3D] mpgrimm2:
Somethings up with my hboot 1.50 unlocked setup (a few others too) . I can't seem to flash roms/kernels with any method. I'm hoping somebody gets s-off soon, its a pain in my arse.
[HTC EVO 3D] mteezey:
Well maybe I can accomplish something with my phone i just bought another one that has 1.5
[HTC EVO 3D] edufur:
How about if someone takes HBOOT 1.4 and modifies it to think it is HBOOT 1.5?
[HTC EVO 3D] USSENTERNCC1701E:
I can write a modded hboot while booted with root, but it doesn't stick, and an RUU reboots to fastboot :( where it errors out. And if I try to flash it from bootloader with a PG86IMG.zip I get a signature error. It will take some time, but I'm going to try to identify which partitions can be written to permanently, then hope something in one of those will allow an HBOOT downgrade :confused: