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[Thunderbolt Android Development] armada786:
The RIL isn't fixed and will remain so until we get an ICS ROM from HTC or some hell of a dev comes along and reverse engineers the RIL. I've only seen one dev do that and that's JT but he's limited to Samsung's implementations and even he hasn't gotten data working on a 4G device such as the Charge.

So everyone just needs to forget about Twisted or any other TBolt dev cracking the RIL. It just isn't happening. The knowledge needed is far more complex than just building a ROM. It'll happen when it happens.

As for this ROM, it looks excellent. I live in a WIFI covered campus so I might give it a good for a while. You've done great work so far.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xs11e:
I was forced to watch some of American Idol last week then I got Rick Rolled.

I found the later more enjoyable. :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mdparent:
Just googled "rick rolled"...... lmfao. I remember that when it was new.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] GeyerA:
Hi, I came back for a couple of times and still can not download the ROM. The dropbox says there is too much traffic and it is suspended. Any mirror or did I do something wrong...? thanks...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Just wait when he gets a build he wants to be shared he will put up a mirror :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] GeyerA:
thanks. wasn't sure and thought why not asking...maybe we can put ricky into the dropbox to sing/dance while we wait :-)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Closed For Renovations​
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Currently in the middle of completely redesigning the method of providing downloads, so bear with me as there won't be many ROM updates until this process is completed. Thanks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Releases are about to hit shelves shortly and things have changed up a bit to make life easier on us and you.

Use the bugtracker. Some builds have Q&A threads where issues are quickly lost in a sea of comments, others use twitter where issues can easily be missed. A bugtracker is a solid way to report an issue, reduce duplicates, and make sure that both of us know the status of the report.

The dropbox links are updated quicker, but go down more often. Honestly they are only provided because it is easy to upload them. Usually it is worth waiting for the dev-host link to be available. I will find a better way to specify when links are new, but for now it is in transition.

The links are now on the main page to prevent confusion. If you want to know the changelog, check the timestamp. If you are confused about what works or doesn't work, check the first post or the bugtracker. They are there for just these reasons.

All that aside, the new versions are now available. Enjoy.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 1454:
Took you long enough. Lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Yeah, well when you want to step up and build three devices from a laptop, keep track of source compatibility with 9, build a website, take care of upload issues, and all of this in your free time during school...

It took just as long as it needed to to be done right.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
New site looks awesome great job! That was really fast for how awesome it looks!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] rodre12:
Wait so camera works but no data?!?!?!

Sent from my rooted GINGERBREAD Running DROID 3 using the gifts god gave me
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Camera it's self has been working for quite a while just still no camcorder recording/saving the video (and switching to 420p causes the camera to crash). Then there is no RIL so yeah. Twisted is getting soo so close to having everything work though!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Been a while now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
You getting pretty close to figuring out camcorder or is the solution still evading you?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] knipp21:
Would aeros camera/camcorder fix be of any help to you?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
...where do you think it came from?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] knipp21:
Lol I didn't read who it came from. Just noticed its working for my device. Sorry bro :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 1454:
I know, I'm just messing with you. I had to give you heck since nobody else was.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
No worries. It just sucks that camcorder doesn't seem to work on the bolt when the same hal is being used by every other device. Kind of a slap in the face really, lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] knipp21:
Yeah I remember now that that was your fix. If I had a bolt I would try to help :/
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
The Thunderbolt has to be special in every way so that nothing from any other device works on it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] DaRkL3AD3R:
Link, this is exactly what I was saying in the AOKP thread on Rootzwiki the other day, the one you replied to me about how HTC is definitely giving the Bolt ICS, and when it does all these 4.0 ROM's will go gold.

I already knew that, I was just implying my distaste with how this phone is beyond picky in every way. At least, to a user who's seeing it give problems at every bat, that's what I can't help but feel.

Being my first and only HTC device, it's left a baaad taste in my mouth :(

Umbrella, I've downloaded your playground build, and man you're a God for getting this much working with this device. I look forward to running your build when we get ICS officially and you implement the working RIL. Thanks for your efforts.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
The next build is all thunderbolt. New kernel with updated video encoders. Should be interesting to see if that means working camcorder or not.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrkite38:
Yeah, being the first LTE device really fouled us up. I think some of us realized that going in. I wouldn't trade 4g for ICS.

And to the guy talking about how hard it is to write a RIL, the HTC Vogue had an epic Android port (pre-HD2, I might add) including a seriously hacked together RIL. When that happened, android didn't have a CDMA framework, so the devs made the RIL pretend to be GSM. Good times, that.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RossLH:
Its not so much that its Verizon's first LTE device, its the dual antennas (antennae?) that make the RIL difficult. 'Tis a cryptic beast.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
Is the new thunderbolt build currently available to download. I'm not seeing download links anywhere on the new website that or I'm just missing them. Keep up the great work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Expand the device name
[Thunderbolt Android Development] i'manoob:
I have a Tbolt with boot manager and would be glad to help with testing if needed just let me know :o
[Thunderbolt Android Development] armada786:
Obviously it's not impossible, it just takes some serious know-how and dedication. Unfortunately, everything I've heard about LTE radios has been not so great. Just trying to explain the why behind the RIL. Not that that'll get everyone to simmer down. :rolleyes:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
When I try to open chrome beta, it just hot reboots my phone. Is it the rom or the app? O and just fyi, the camcorder's display shows up, but it doesn't record or save. Keep up the good work :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I only had that problem with Chrome when I changed the DPI. The Camcorder has shown a preview for quite a while it's the actual recording and saving of the file that has been the problem.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
New toy while I finish up the rest: http://d-h.st/08w
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Cool I'll check it out!

EDIT: What all was new on that just the Theme Section had some stuff moved into it?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
For now, but also how it works.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
how is the new build coming along? :p
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Not bad. Taking a step back from things and trying to explore life outside android, but it's still getting there
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Nooo not real life! jk lol I'm glad this semester is almost over I passed my networking exam and have just two more projects then it's time to party!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] oneders65:
I'm not sure if I'm downloading the right file. I went to the website and chose my device. Tried the dropbox most recent and got an error message and will not download. Tried the dev link with file date of April 10th and flashed the Rom. Played with the Rom and noticed data was not working for me. Is the working available or are the finishing touches still being worked on?

*Nevermind! I thought mobile data and camcorder had been fixed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
No Camcorder and RIL are still broken but those are the only major things left as far as I know. Until we have an official update or a leak of it RIL will stay broken sorry.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well on the latest build Camcorder records on 720p however it force closes. But one difference I found is it actually makes a video file and saves it however the video player can't read it I'm assuming it just fails to encode the whole file and that's why it doesn't work. You are getting so close twisted! I know soon we'll have working Camcorder!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eikoo:
So bugs I came across

Rom Manager does not work correctly in ICS. I does not detect recovery correctly.

Google Play text garbled in the search bar.

Everthing seems just a tad big.

The known camcorder crashing issue.

Google Chrome Crashes on launch.

Good work and thank you.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eikoo:
Also proximity sensor does not work when making voip calls.

The other person could not hear me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Chrome works fine to me. I don't really know about rom manager since I use Boot Manager to run the rom from my SD Card. For the most part there isn't a lot of point of reporting bugs till we actually get a leaked update then I'm sure most of this will be fixed pretty easily.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ijeenyus:
Just installed the new build.

LOVE

bootup screen, very original. Nicely done!

Update: Everything looks good to go. Panorama and camera works great
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Ok I tried out the new build and it seems like everything is slow and freezes up it was actually working better when I flashed it without a wipe lol. But so far camcorder doesn't work. Anyways hopefully next build is a bit better keep up the good work. :)

I was wondering Twisted if you could replace Nova with Apex if everyone else is ok with that? Does anyone else prefer Apex over Nova like I do? If you don't it's fine I can unzip and rezip like I've been doing.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
I've used it before..I think they're both very good, so I'd go either way.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrkite38:
Sorry guys!

Twisted, my apologies! I was deleting a worthless post from the end of this thread and accidentally trashed the thread itself! Sorry for the confusion.

Maybe someone could PM me next time I pull something stupid like this? :o

/MODFAIL

As you were!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I was enjoying the break. No worries. I know it wasn't malicious.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Ryanmo5:
It happens man don't beat yourself up!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrkite38:
It was the "didn't notice for a week" part that made me feel bad. ;)

Thanks guys. Looking forward to Twisted's continued work as available.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
The OP should probably be updated with the new link lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
Will ice cream sandwich be released soon for this phone really wanna play with that and sense 4.0
[Thunderbolt Android Development] espnaholik:
Talk to HTC about that, or dump the thunderbolt for a droid incredible 4 g
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
Ya I wouldn't do that for the life of me I love the thunderbolt just wondering if they got the custom Rom patched up and have everything working
[Thunderbolt Android Development] androidsupra:
as nice as the Inc 4GLTE looks, it's still got a 4" screen, even the rezound 4.3" doesn't seem as big as the thunderbolt, even with its higher resolution
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xs11e:
"Reliable sources" have said that any time someone asks about ICS, HTC and VZW delay it two more months!

You just moved it into 2013! ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
So if I drop Verizon and switch to LG, will that shave two?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
With the turtle like speed of updates for the thunderbolt I won't be buying another htc device. It's going to be what ever nexus is out because I know it'll get updates and support officially or unofficially before everything else.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ThunderStick:
Bump that up one more for me, 2014 now....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
Geez now I gotta wait :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gammaxgoblin:
Honestly, I find myself caring less and less about ics. We can pretty much be guaranteed that is we ever get ics, that will be the last version of Android this phone sees given the ril complexities. We are at the mercy of HTC for all major updates and that isn't good.

Edit: my Droid 2 had ics before I got this phone and now I wonder if I really would rather have a locked bootloader. It doesn't seem to be of that much benefit.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] intender:
I'm guessing this is dead. I had been looking through the data code off and on but the github site has been down for a couple of weeks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Sure, or maybe you just didn't check the right place...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
I personally don't care if I don't have ice cream sandwhich cause the phone is fine with all te different custom roms just would be nice to play with ice cream sandwhich for a little
[Thunderbolt Android Development] s10onn2o:
I'm going to say not the right place for $200 Twisted
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jlampson:
I downloaded and flashed this via Boot Manager as I have in the past and wiped and everything. It's booting up to the Welcome screen but none of the function buttons work (power and volume work). The touchscreen also does not work so I can't activate it, either. I booted into Recovery and wiped everything but that did not help. Even waiting about 20 minutes didn't help it to initialize. I'll keep digging but if anyone has any suggestions, I'll listen!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
The latest build isn't working please wait till it's updated. Twisted it's finishing up school so gee hang been able to upload a new bills recently.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Now that I wrote a new changelog library to replace the one we had, it's time to give it something to list. Just a couple edits to fix some broken code and new builds should be available.

Blame my class for delays. I kept getting stopped by changes to the layout for our project.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Good work ur magic, everyone loves it lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
please finish it up i really want ICS on my thunderbolt

kite edit: every time a post like this is made, a puppy dies. :(
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Well, you are more than welcome to download the source and build it. All the stuff is there. I'm not holding you back. Otherwise it's waiting on a build to finish while I sleep to not tie up the computer.

Haha, that made my day. Thanks.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
New build is uploading now. Only had a minor edit from the attempt last night to get it finished. Should be up within the hour.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
I don't know how to program that's what's stopping me I only know how to network and fix computers/servers. I'll let the pro's take care of building the os
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
So its when you have to type

repo init -u git://github.com/ThePlayground/android.git -b ics
make otapackage TARGET_PRODUCT=htc_mecha TARGET_BUILD_VARIANT=userdebug

that things get a little too complicated?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
Well some things like that I understand but other than that I just leave it to guys that develop it and change it around
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Dilpickle1:
Twisted, take care of your life and school before you worry about us... I'll be patiently waiting for the day to come that I can have ICS on my bolt.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I was actually long past overdue to update my applications. Sandbox needed some love to bring it current again. Almost done with that, then new test builds can start.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
hey twisted, you know how you said that you would try to figure out the ril if you raised like $500 or somethin? U should just ask liquid if you could use his ril, cuz he might release it to you rather than someone like me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
What ril? If it worked, it would be out,
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 1454:
PLEASE STOP ASKING FOR IT. He said HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET TO IT IF WE RAISED ENOUGH MONEY. That didn't mean he for sure would do it. He made no guarantees as such. The more people like you bug him, the more likely he isn't to work on it. If you want ICS so bad buy a new phone, or donate the amount for a new phone to twisted in HOPES that he might have the time to work on it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
Your response was as bad as his.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] 1454:
Maybe it was, but he is like the fourth person to ask for it in twisted's thread. I don't even know if twisted has raised that much money for it. It just reminds me of all the jerks that pissed protekk off about the rezound. People just need to let the Devs do their work and leave them alone.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Still a looong way away. Plus I offered to start donating whatever came in to another dev if they released it. I'm pretty sure that chance would have been jumped on if something were there to offer.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] donnyp1:
I totally agree. Im content waiting, as good things ........
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Please note these dates are targets and may shift due to testing and approvals.​
[Thunderbolt Android Development] robnez:
Keep up the work!

twisted, thanks for you hard work! Once the RIL is released, I'll be using this for my DD.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ATHORNFAM2:
Where's the download link for ics
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Temporarily down.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] David522d:
Does everything work on this ICS Build?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] icedventimocha:
Everytime someone asks that a little part of each devs dies inside.

Sent from my ADR6400L using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Thunderbolt Android Development] disconnecktie:
I thought a basket full of kittens died :P
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Nothing works. It was a waste of my time that I decided was best used to annoy others by destroying their hope of a complete build. I slaved to get every feature as perfect as possible with the information available only to make sure it would not function just to claim it was not the source causing issues. I honestly never imagined anyone would actually ask if it worked, so I thought my plan was flawless.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Vince556:
So, does that mean everything works?

;-)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] icedventimocha:
Usually it is but I figured it would mean more if it was something people actually care about.

Sent from my ADR6400L using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wyattn:
Totally random but on topic, anyone seen this fun stuff?

http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/dashboard/1935

Looks like there's going to be some fun upstream part patches in the future.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Most of that has been getting worked in as it comes instead of all at once, though.

Sent from my Jailbroken iPad 3
[Thunderbolt Android Development] KeithLing1115:
I cant believe the MyTouch 4G has ICS fully working before us. Just hooked my boy up and I was impressed.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
^ Future T-Mobile customer.

Sent from my Jailbroken iPad 3
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wyattn:
That's awesome. I heard there's supposed to be some impressive speed enhancements somewhere in all of those changes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] revaew:
So what doesn't work on this still? Not to be nagging but I don't think I saw an updated list or something.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Camcorder in high def, data. Wasn't anything on the list to update really. Most changes were to the apps.

Sent from my Jailbroken iPad 3
[Thunderbolt Android Development] necosino:
If only Calls/SMS worked I would be on this thing like a fat kid on a drunk prom date.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Things have finally gotten far enough along that I needed to expand into my own forum to keep tack of all the projects I am hosting. The new forum is located at Lounge Cat Forums and this topic is being closed to prevent unanswered posts.

Sent from my Jailbroken iPad 3
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Did that already. Now I'm going for the wow factor and hoping DV works some magic with it to make it worth more than just "testing"
[Thunderbolt Android Development] justavillain:
sounding like a episode of Storage Wars "Thats the wow factory baby"

I'm excited to see this build take off!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RLKirk:
Has anything new popped up. Super excited!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshw0000:
This is probably not the section to ask this, but it was recommended in the OP so here it goes. I've been itching to try ICS and purchased boot manager. I installed it to Rom 1 and countless times it would start the install, then reboot. I downloaded a task manager and killed everything but boot manager and superuser. The next installed seemed successful... unzipped image, apks, csvs, txts, config, ttfs, jars, sos, etc, paused on "extracting rom please wait..." and rebooted. I checked my sd card and it appears to be installed yet it still shows no rom on Rom 1 and will not boot to it. Any suggestions?

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[Thunderbolt Android Development] yodatom10:
you better off asking that question over here http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8424-rom-ics-thunderbolt-alpha35/

your not the only one having issues but there has been some solutions over at rootz wiki
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Open bootmanager, press the menu button, and choose settings. Click the option to use the old boot.img method. Their new method is incompatible with the way that the ICS build is designed. I will add that to the op as soon as I get a new build up and running.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] joshw0000:
Thanks, that seemed to help but still no go. I first flashed it over ICS (the only original flash I got to take but wouldn't boot). It booted but kept going to recovery. I've tried flashing on a couple new slots and each flash seems to take...all the way to the end where it reboots before finishing.

I'm going to give my phone a break for now. I've restored my backup about 4 times and rebooted at least two dozen times. My extended battery went from 100 to 40%. LOL