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[LG Optimus 2x] Mungulz:
This phone predates ICS by a year, and you weren't promised updates when you bought it.

You cannot get a refund on your phone, the only thing LG has done wrong is cave in to the abusive letters and stupidly not have the resources to get the update out as promised.

You shouldn't expect an ICS update, or demand it, but rather be hopeful that they get it done eventually.

People going as far as sending hate mail, making terrorists threats, getting government fair trade agencies involved etc need to get a new hobby, and focus on the more important things in life.

CM7 is a good rom, developers have worked very hard on it, and the phone functions as it should.

ICS wont magically make anything better, my Nexus 7 has Jellybean and the differences really aren't major between it and CM7.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Some people bought the phone with an advertised upgrade to ICS, they are entitled to be crabby about it, IMO.
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
:eek::eek::eek:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
They have officially promised it almost a year ago.

They have failed to update their dualcore flagship(!) phone the second time. GB last year and now ICS.

Yes you should expect it. If a company tells you back in November/December that ICS will arrive in Q2, you have every right to expect it in Q3.

It's not like their Q2 plan was pretty ambitious.

I do agree on this one. Stop buying LG, that's the only thing that you can do.

True that. But here are people who paid 500€ for that phone, so you cannot argue with "the phone functions work".

Well... I guess this depends on your needs. In my eyes Jellybean is an extreme improvement compared to GB. Even more than Android 2.3 was compared to 1.6. But as I said, this is my opinion, for others GB might be enough.
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Optimus g announced and no announcement about ics updates
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
so what are you doing here on this topic if you are happy with your GB and not waiting for ICS?! LOOOOLL :) :) :) :)
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
"Always updateable to the latest Android version by the touch of a button"

On the package. Wouldn't have bought it without that and a load of.custom ROMs on XDA.
[LG Optimus 2x] thedicemaster:
from the dutch packaging:

which translates to:

and this isn't in small letters on the side, it is in a big font on top of the box.

not exactly the best wording because they pretty much did promise us ICS, and JB, and whatever android versions Google comes up with next.

they probably intended it to mean they will release an update to the latest android version available when the device was released, and that all updates would come through OTA, but the way they put it together as 1 "feature" makes it sound as if they promised to always give us the newest android version.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Decided to annoy an lg rep for info. Not my name lol.
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
V 30c available...for su660....
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
you are surprised about?

same music ... just change the language.
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
That twit's twitter refers to another announcement which refers to September only "At the latest of September this update is hoped to be released…. ", not October. Where's the revision to an October release?
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Could you please expand a little on this, if it's not going too much off topic?

I've been taking the opportunity for the last few weeks to try as much samsung devices as I can, I have recently taken a very quick tour with an S2 and an S3... and they didn't seem all that great to me, even with ICS...
[LG Optimus 2x] FatherJony:
For users the big difference is that Jellybean actually makes proper use of the hardware. Up till version 2.3, android was mainly software rendered, with gpu assistance in some animations. The gpu, which btw is allot faster than the cpu for drawing and consumes allot less power, was only used by games. ICS introduced a gpu accelerated UI along with a compositor, improving performance considerably, but framerates were still on the lower side and inconsistent to boot. Jellybean uses triple buffering and vsynch to ensure higher and consistent UI framerates that make a huge difference in user experience. There are many tweaks besides those that make Jellybean the fastest and smoothest version of Android by far.

There is also the matter of the UI design to consider as well. While looks are subjective, android is finally clean and consistent. Buttons and tabs have given way to swipes, widgets are more touch friendly and the launcher is actually good this time.

As for developers, the new apis make their work allot easier. I wont bore you with the details, but you can design and implement applications that look and perform better with allot less actual work.

I have to say, i wasn't a big fan of Android initially, but Jellybean is IMO the best OS available for smartphones.
[LG Optimus 2x] heavencanwait:
I usually try not to off topic but, SkiesOfAzel, to press the Thank you button is not enough. Thank you so much for this explanation. It is so well explained and it looks so simple yet a man can tell you know this stuff inside out. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] goodmamba:
I'm Romanian, I live in Romania and for sure I'm not corrupted just like the vast majority here. Just because you are a self-hateing Romanian probably intoxicated by bad jurnalism and seeking a motivation for feeling good about yourself it doesn't make all of us corrupted. Honesty, I'm happy you don't live here anymore :)

Now, to keep it on topic, yes I have a long list of notifications to the Customer Protection Agency and they always gave me "revenge" against bad commerce.

You should try it too. The European laws for customer 's protection are strict and generally favor the end-user.

Use them!
[LG Optimus 2x] deewhy:
I keep seeing people say that ICS is not necessary and that GB runs perfectly fine,

so am I the only person who is experiencing terrible browser performance? Things like jerky scrolling, slow performance, slow response to user input, etc?

This happens on stock browser, Dolphin browser, and Boat browser. Opera browser works better for me, definitely much smoother, but it doesn't use the WebKit engine, so site compatibility is poor at times.

Flash video performance is also very poor. (HTML5 is not a viable replacement for me at the moment as some sites such as sports livestreams are still currently Flash only).

I'm mainly hoping for ICS because they might fix the browser issues I'm experiencing.

I'm on stock 2.3.4 by the way.
[LG Optimus 2x] icyeye:
the truth is that this is the best android OS ( its your personal opinion for best OS out there ) , but still not reached IOS or even WP7 ,when we talk about the smoothness , and especially when IO6 / WP8 come out . u can say what ever u want but that is the truth! unfortunately .....
[LG Optimus 2x] blakki73:
Is smoothness all you can ask from a phone? Wp and ios aren't so versatile as android is. And, however, jellybean is smooth as them.

Inviato dal mio LG-P990 con Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 2x] barqers:
I disagree with you. Try a Gnex out with vanilla android and Jelly Bean then come back and talk.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
Smoothness would be fine at least. :) The Windows phones are really pretty impressive about that, and Apple anyway.

But I agree: Android is the most versatile, flexible and usable of the smartphone OS right now.
[LG Optimus 2x] zomer86:
LG please kill me now.
[LG Optimus 2x] icyeye:
i know what i am talking about, and this is mine personal opinion so no one take it close to the heart.btw, i got Gnex with JB in mine hands, and it still got some lag . no, its not all about smoothness ( maybe 4 u ) but on the other hand YES it is. tell me...What is the greatest advantage of the JB over the older GB? why u want JB if u got funkcional GB ? there is no such difference which u will notice - if u aren't dev ( instead UI design ) but ah yes ... most important thing is hardware accelerated UI ! so basically all ordinary user - like me - want smooth phone without lag... and there's where android is slacking ! its sad that WP7 with single core beating almost any 4x android device when we talking about smoothness.i don't want to spend all the money on the most expensive android phone so that i could get something which is close to what it should be! hope u got mine point. and ofc... this is mine opinion so, don't take it personal...if in some case ,words, acting like that ! cheers! ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] blakki73:
I understand your point, but... if you buy WP or ios, you have your beloved smoothness, but you will lack an interchangeable wallpaper, many free apps, you can't change your notification ring, and i can continue over and over. This is my opinion, different from yours :) and the fact is also that i will NEVER spend 700€ for a phone, WP, Ios or android it is.

Inviato dal mio LG-P990 con Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 2x] scalle288:
Yes, I was. And their promise is still on the LG optimus 2x site.
[LG Optimus 2x] vEget7:
damn LG.. good in hardware specs very bad software updates..
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
I hope you're right, because I've been getting my hands on SG2 every chance I get (always with stock 4.0.4) and I never found it to be smoother than my O2X. I've even tried an SG3 from a friend and, once again, except for the screen, I wasn't jealous at all!!

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LOL! Why the heck are you still on stock?!! You crazy? :)

Do yourself a huge favor and try temasek's ROM, now!
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
Bored to death??
[LG Optimus 2x] FatherJony:
Look mate, i wasn't talking about smoothness, i was talking about the OS in general. The main Android plus when it came out was openness, but it lacked core functionality, a good looking and consistent UI , good performance etc. I didn't like the activity lifecycle paradigm of managing memory and multitasking, i saw it as a bad compromise in order to improve the performance that was hampered because of java. As you've probably guessed, i didn't like the choice of java as well, thinking that in devices with limited resources like phones, low level languages and native code is the way to go.

Well, as it turns out i was wrong about java, the introduction of x86 SOCs in the market makes java one of Android's biggest weapons, as it allows applications that are written with it (and don't include native code) to run on any architecture without a problem. W8 might perform better, but application compatibility will be a ***** for both users and developers. And for that reason right now it's easier (it requires less work) for Android to became a Desktop OS than it is for W8 to become a smartphone OS.

As for the rest of my complaints, they are mostly addressed, so for ME, android is the best compromise. I never meant for this post to spawn a this vs that argument, it's pointless. Every user has different needs and personal preferences, there is no universal best when those factors come into account. That's why i made use of IMO (= in my opinion), i just stated that android went from worst to best in my eyes to express how much i think it has improved.
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Of course you were!

Nonetheless, I agree with you. Even if Android would never get as smooth as the others, its other features are more than enough for me. However, I have still to see what all the fuss is about with ICS and JB, because I have at least tried some phones with ICS and it didn't feel like a big improvement to me! I hope when CM10 comes with HWA for our O2X I will be able to see and feel that improvement.
[LG Optimus 2x] rmein:
I checked with LG support and they said that you killing has been scheduled for the second quarter of 2013.

A few badly translated Korean tweets are suggesting that it might have been put off until the second half of 2013.

You may find that if you bug the developers on here constantly they will be happy to do it much sooner though:laugh:

I've heard that arcee has the ability to kill with a single carefully placed sarcastic reply on Google+
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
where is the source of your information?!
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
is a joke :P
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
Maybe he is being sarcastic ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
LOLOLOL! Omg... I laughed so hard here at work everyone stared at me :D
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
and no one called a doctor?

ahahahahaha
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Nope, it's ok, I'm ok now :)
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
joke would be that already came out .. For the second quarter of 2013 is not a joke but yes a total disappointment :(
[LG Optimus 2x] VorTeX Raptor:
Good one
[LG Optimus 2x] zomer86:
It's probably delayed.
[LG Optimus 2x] heavencanwait:
OMG people, ICS on LG O2x in action! :fingers-crossed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHwegwXwwHs&feature=related
[LG Optimus 2x] barqers:
Of course nothing personal! I've tried a couple WP7 phones and iPhone 4S's, but Jelly Bean has a significant improvement over GB. Personally I find smoothness of Jelly Bean, IOS5, and WP7 to be about the same. But I do agree that WP7 and IOS5 are much more simplistic and can be a bit easier to navigate. However, I guess I'm just in love with Android, never leaving :)

But I agree, WP7 is way smoother on lower-spec phones, on high-end phones, you can't tell the difference though. Maybe the battery life is a lot better on IOS and WP7, I haven't tested that :P

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Your problem is you're using IE.

...

Just kidding. But on all serious notes, LG did promise everyone (Even here in Canada I was told upgradeable). But, I purchased the phone on Froyo, so maybe they only meant upgradeable to GB??
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU
[LG Optimus 2x] theevilworm:
Another unsatisfying live chat with an LG representative:
[LG Optimus 2x] H€¥:
Ics for optimus 2x will be released after the 5th of november...
[LG Optimus 2x] KoRRo89:
source?
[LG Optimus 2x] vladutz9:
5th november 2013???
[LG Optimus 2x] flopower1996:
No November 2014 :p
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
ICS will be released when the page number hits 1000
[LG Optimus 2x] Notarzt23:
I think it has to be "over 9000!!!" ^^

Gesendet von meinem Optimus 2X mit Tapatalk
[LG Optimus 2x] z830:
Day after day time pass away

N' I just can't get you off my mind

Nobody knows I hide it inside

I keep on searching but I can't find

The courage to show to letting you know

I've never felt so much love before

* And once again I'm thinking about

Taking the easy way out

** But if I let you go I will never know

What my life would be holding you close to me

Will I ever see you smiling back at me (oh yeah)

How will I know if I let you go

Night after night I hear myself say

Why can't this feeling just fade away

There's no one like you (no one like you)

You speak to my heart (speak to my heart)

Its such a shame we're worlds apart

I'm too shy to ask I'm too proud to lose

But sooner or later I gotta choose

[Repeat * , **]

If I let you go (ooh baby)

Once again i'm think about

Taking the easy way out

[Repeat **]
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
so imagine the members who receive a notice whenever they make a post..an off topic post..
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
They chose to get these messages, and that's fairly easy to change.
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
I also bought it from WIND. The promotional information stated "upgradeable" which doesn't actually say what to or when, just that it is "upgradeable". But, now that the WIND Optimus 2X isn't sold anymore and LG has publicly announced there will not be an upgrade for Canada, LG and WIND have misrepresented the phone's upgreadeability which is illegal according to Canada's Competition Act which anyone can file a complaint about. A small claims court litigation to force WIND to buy the phone back would also succeed because of material misrepresentaion and its effect on the utility and value of the phone.

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North Korea will become a democratic society before LG provides ICS for the Optimus 2X.
[LG Optimus 2x] zomer86:
We're no strangers to love

You know the rules and so do I

A full commitment's what I'm thinking of

You wouldn't get this from any other guy

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling

Gotta make you understand

CHORUS

Never gonna give you up,

Never gonna let you down

Never gonna run around and desert you

Never gonna make you cry,

Never gonna say goodbye

Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rick+astley/never+gonna+give+you+up_20116173.html ]

We've known each other for so long

Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it

Inside we both know what's been going on

We know the game and we're gonna play it

And if you ask me how I'm feeling

Don't tell me you're too blind to see (CHORUS)

CHORUSCHORUS

(Ooh give you up)

(Ooh give you up)

(Ooh) never gonna give, never gonna give

(give you up)

(Ooh) never gonna give, never gonna give

(give you up)

We've known each other for so long

Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it

Inside we both know what's been going on

We know the game and we're gonna play it (TO FRONT)
[LG Optimus 2x] TheGripper:
"Never gonna give you up" is supposedly LG's theme song.
[LG Optimus 2x] scalle288:
I think LG is hoping that the world will end on 21 December. Only if the LG developers survive that day, they will start working on ICS
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
The objective it's survey the ics progress no survey and recieve off topic notification
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
There's no progress. If there is, you will notice in any single thread. You also can subscribe to daily updates - one eMail per day only. Maybe that would suite your purpose.

I think you will be safe to check the thread once in a fortnight or so. Progress, if coming, won't be fast anyway.
[LG Optimus 2x] barqers:
I'd gladly file a complaint and lawsuit if it didn't cost $175 just to process the claim. The processing costs make it far less valuable to sue them.
[LG Optimus 2x] oscarmiranda90:
Baahh what im going to do is..... buy a htc one x im sick of this...... jodete LG!
[LG Optimus 2x] draugurio:
I bought a S2 from a friend of mine at a really cheap price, it's a quite difference for me and it's always good to have a stable ICS at least. Still hope someday LG release ICS. :good:
[LG Optimus 2x] wfd:
Optimus 2x is gone from this page http://www.lgmobile.co.kr/lgmobile/front/download/retrieveDownloadMain.dev but there is appeared Optimus Black in ICS section.
[LG Optimus 2x] George Jetson:
Optimus black ku5900 took officially ics yesterday:good:
[LG Optimus 2x] MetaIIica:
What say me this Information?? We can forget ICS? Iam a little confused now
[LG Optimus 2x] PaKii94:
hmm how much later did the black come out? hopefully they working towards o2x
[LG Optimus 2x] OptimusXX:
Mid range phones with same 512MB RAM got ICS upgrade...what the hell with O2X? Driver is the clear culprit....
[LG Optimus 2x] 33696933:
Just updated to V30X

Model [1]: LGSU660

ROM Version [1]: V30X_00

Download [1]: csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/RNDTESTSW/LGSU660/SKT/0KB61R4NT8/V30X_00/V30X_00.kdz

Size [1]: 591030645 bytes (= 563.650746346 MB)

Upload Date [1]: 2012-09-20 14:41:32.0 (Korean time)
[LG Optimus 2x] OptimusXX:
With my english Alphabet knowledge ....only D comes after C....how come X...Anyway thanks for progress shown by LG
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
Such a big letter jump... it must mean that they are ready. I expect the next update to be the official one.
[LG Optimus 2x] PaKii94:
all we can do is hope and i really do hope its official next :p or maybe they will tantalize us another 2 weeks with y and z releasing in one week periods
[LG Optimus 2x] OptimusXX:
There may be a possiblity that since alphabet letters dried out after Z...they will continue their development from 40A...40B...LG has ample deadline time as Q3 2013 still have 365 days left...
[LG Optimus 2x] wapz:
Lets see how long it takes them to publish Optimus Black sourcecode...
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
Wait WTF? OBlack got the update before the O2X??? WTF is LG doing?
[LG Optimus 2x] Stefan Gündhör:
LOL now they switched back to C again from X:

SU660 leaker by Stefan Guendhoer - credits for the method to marsgod

Model [1]: LGSU660

ROM Version [1]: V30C_00

Download [1]: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/RNDTESTSW/LGSU660/SKT/FU23MBN77I/V30C_00/V30C_00.kdz

Size [1]: 591027609 bytes (= 563.64785099 MB)

Upload Date [1]: 2012-09-20 15:29:45.0 (Korean time)

Driver Download [1]: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/swdata/USBSW/GSM/EI/LGUnitedMobileDriver_S4981MAN37AP22_ML_WHQL

This C-version is definitely newer than the X version
[LG Optimus 2x] paul_cad44:
The x version was the special adults build incorporating several mb of porn. ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
Why do you do that? The more you raise hopes, the harder the fall afterwards, the noisier the complaints.

Let's put things in perspective: This is not for P990. When LG finally releases it for the SU660, we don't know how long a P990 version might still take. It will anyway need another two to three weeks for the kernel sources to drop. Before that, no custom ROM will be happening, after all I understood.

It might even take longer, if we need to wait for P990 version first and then for the kernel sources of this version.

So let's not get all worked up like ten times ago, because some version number changed. Let's celebrate when actually something happened.
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
I do not want to sound offensive, but I believe you are incorrect dear friend...

As far as I understood, all we need is for them to release the code for SU660 and our devs will be able to port it to the P990, so even if they take a while to release a P990 ROM, as long as they release the code for the SU660 ROM, we're good!

That's my understanding, anyway. Maybe I'm wrong.
[LG Optimus 2x] PaKii94:
yeah thats what i got also
[LG Optimus 2x] Zlatan_61:
Yes, but from what I understood, they also need the kernel code, which will be released a week or two after the su660 ROM.

So we need more than just the ROM
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
That would be something! :)

I am just trying to calm the waves down. I don't mind off topic in a thread like this, but all the high hopes and deep disappointment afterwards, with everything from threatening legal action to suicide ... maybe we can prevent that. ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
You mean more than just the source code of the ROM, right?
[LG Optimus 2x] Ximo F. Verde:
The ICS update for the korean Optimus Black (KU5900) is now official. From LG Twitter Korea:

'[Notice] Optimus Black (KU5900) of the ICS OS upgrade. Quick notes, such as speech recognition Torrent variety of features have been added. You can download the upgrade via the LG Mobile homepage http://goo.gl/iBPKO or Support Tool'

Cant believe that the OB came 1st...
[LG Optimus 2x] aze2:
probably because is not a Terga 2 (nvidia)...

next phone (when i've money) isn't a tegra phone. LG ok... why not... (arf...) but nvidia no more!

LG if Google made update ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] Pascalwb:
Oh, and again we are last :crying:
[LG Optimus 2x] yshan:
If you look closer you see, that it is the KU5900 (korean version of optimus black) which got released and not the P970 (international version). So basically what the SU660 is for our P990. I looked into their forums and they have the same problems as we have.

So technically said, O2X still got the update before optimus black.

EDIT: I read some pages more on the OB thread and they have kdz going up to letter 'I' whereas we are still at 'C'...

And it really seems to be official one, there is no more RNDTESTSW but WEBSW.

However as long as there are no source codes provided they're on the same ship as we are.
[LG Optimus 2x] elefas:
I think the KU5900 is official update ready to be downloaded, where SU660 is in testing phase, no official update yet. So officially speaking O2X got overtaken by OB.