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[LG Optimus 2x] backylasek:
i think Q2 is too long.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonywaouw:
Here is the last update of Kiljacken on twitter yesterday :)

"People asking for the ICS ROM: We still have to fix RIL, sound and GPS before we release anything in a flashable format"

see : http://twitter.com/Kiljacken
[LG Optimus 2x] kiljacken:
Yeah, we do still have a few problems. RIL is half done, we have the daemon running, but now we need to fix the java side of things. As for the sound a working xml config is all that we need (I think). The GPS is just another permission problem I think, so that shouldn't be that hard either. But if we have anybody good at java, and with a fair knowledge of how android does the RIL stuff, we could use a bit of help.
[LG Optimus 2x] vitaminxero:
Thanks for the update, Cool Guy.
[LG Optimus 2x] atg2x:
Keep on the great work. Hope we taste ICS soon.

P.S Has nvidia open-sourced the drivers as they promised?
[LG Optimus 2x] tonywaouw:
WTF ?!

Wow that's impressive ! Samsung has already a public ICS ROM for his SII

http://www.sammobile.com/2011/12/31/exclusive-2-new-android-4-0-1-and-4-0-3-roms/

And LG is talking about Q2 ....
[LG Optimus 2x] doko13:
We had a discussion about in on an other forum... one guy found that the link on nvidia forum that Ricardo Cerqueira gave us didn't work anymore

(note : I cannot post link to his profile, as I did not post enough to do it, if someone wants to add it)

The topic stills exists, but it seems that it has been cleaned, and therefore no more reference to it...
[LG Optimus 2x] deconfrost:
I'm in the Process of making arrangement to swap my DHD for the 2X, once I get my hands on it I will start on it, source is ready on my system..... finger crossed :)
[LG Optimus 2x] tonywaouw:
Still there : http://forums.developer.nvidia.com/devforum/discussion/comment/3236?Sort=popular
[LG Optimus 2x] sibbor:
Yeah, and in the linka tonywaouw provided it still says:

"NVIDIA is working on a full release of Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) for our Tegra 2 Dual Core and Tegra 3 Quad Core reference devices to be made available early next year. This release package will comprise of binary code, drivers developed on our reference platforms and any patches necessary to ensure stability & performance with ICS. We hope the open source community can leverage this release for their work on all Tegra devices."

Exactly when, who knows, but probably soon enough.
[LG Optimus 2x] m0fizor:
Hello,

Here you can find the git for tegra: http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?o=age

As you can see there are some modifications for these:

user/swarren/linux-2.6.git - 10 days ago

user/amartin/linux-2.6.git - 12 days ago
[LG Optimus 2x] vainqueur:
I am seriously depending on you CM or any cool dude out there can is developing ICS on 2x now because I will be a fool if I expect LG to launch ICS...
[LG Optimus 2x] Medizinmann:
Thumps up to all the devs on CM9

Hello!

Thumps up to all the devs on CM9 – as everybody here hopes for a working release in the near future! :):D

No, you wouldn’t bet a fool if you wait for a release from LQ – I am pretty sure there will be one – some day…

…but I am also sure it will be more like late 2012 more like Q3 or Q4 and not Q2 as LG says…
[LG Optimus 2x] ppp0941:
WOW, can't wait for cm9:eek:
[LG Optimus 2x] vainqueur:
Yup. You are right. Some day, LG will release it. Another concern for waiting for LG is their Kernel. Although they have released GB, they failed to update the Kernel, so, our GB is more laggy than a Single Core GB due to the outdated Kernel. So, if LG is supposingly working very hard to develop the ICS but they failed to do anything with the Kernel, then I rather they don't release ICS. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I know some people will push the blame to Nvidia but from all those articles we have seen, haven't Nvidia already released an updated Kernel for 2x???
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
That's complete crap, the kernel version is not keeping the phones performance down.
[LG Optimus 2x] atg2x:
So why so much conversation about the kernel. Are the differences between the kernel we now use and the last one so big?

Can someone tell me if the following is right?

Google uses Java for the UI, MS and Apple use Objective-C, C++. Is Java resbonsible for the slow UI? iPhone is smooth from 2007 and Google is still trying to create a smooth UI. Are all these because of the absence of hardware acceleration till now, or is it a much deeper problem with the Java?

P.S I'm a noob and try to learn things.
[LG Optimus 2x] t0m2k:
im pretty tense about ICS...... Will it be so good?
[LG Optimus 2x] voon:
Why's a good kernel difficult? Aren't more or less all chips etc in a mobile phone just standard and documented?
[LG Optimus 2x] kiljacken:
Most of the chips are yes. How they are wired together however is the mostly the problem
[LG Optimus 2x] miina_tokiha:
great work!

please consider to make a new thread in this section:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1002

it will be easier for you to update & receive feedback.
[LG Optimus 2x] wkpark:
OK~

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=23848490
[LG Optimus 2x] alakyr:
harmony is a revision like ventana...company to start developer get board to start to "create" but our o2x have the harmony revision...nvidia italia confirmed it personally to me...
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi kiljacken, which variant of Tegra 2 is running in our O2X's? Ricardo seems to think it's Harmony.

Thanks. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] vitaminxero:
LG's own custom variant with their own choice of memory, modem, wireless chip, etc. Just like all other manufacturers.
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi vitaminxero, the plot thickens. So I've been giving out incorrect information? Damn. My apologies to anyone I've misled/misdirected.

With all of iOS's limitations, the hardware road map is pretty clear cut. I'm in the process of choosing an ANDROID tablet. I need something with an active stylus, so I can sketch ideas, and take visual notes. So I was thinking of the Motorola Xoom 2 (The XYZboard in the states). A strong reason was because of the fact it uses a Texas Instruments OMAP processor, and not Nvidia.

I have seen reports that devs like TI chips because TI provide, code and other stuff freely. Do you know if this is correct?

Perhaps I should just buy the Xoom 2 and be done with it.

My apologies to others for taking this thread off topic. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] ThePigletWhisperer:
For sketching i recommend a wacom tablet. Pressure sensing stylus works like a charm in photoshop.
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi lorismarcos, I don't understand what you mean. I have an A3 Wacom tablet in my studio. But I want an ANDROID tablet that has an active digitiser like the Motorola Xoom 2, or the SAMSUNG Note 10.1. Both of these have pressure sensitivity, actually the Xoom 2 doesn't at the moment, but I've been informed that the ICS update will include pressure sensitivity drivers.

I have been waiting a very long time to go digital with my sketch books. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] vitaminxero:
Haha well I don't believe Ricardo said anything of the sort. Harmony and Ventana development platforms are for developing applications for Tegra 2. The specific hardware other than the CPU and GPU can vary depending on what each OEM wants. So if you were thinking on the lines of getting a better kernel for our phone... our best bet is to wait for LG to drop a Kernel blob for the P990. Even if NVIDIA were to give the source to all Tegra 2 CPU+GPU portions of the chip, they are probably unable to deliver the source for other bits of the hardware like the wireless chip. It's a complicated and annoying situation.
[LG Optimus 2x] ThePigletWhisperer:
WHAT!!!! Oo

Holy ****, I'm so far left behind.

Had no idea.

Can you also use it with photoshop?

BTW i think we are getting a bit off the subject here.

Good thing there's a new thread about this : P
[LG Optimus 2x] dasklney:
So the hermony binaries may work with our Optimus 2x? :D As Nvidia released new binaries on Mar 12th so did anyone test these binaries on Optimus 2x 3.0 kernel? :D

These binaries based on Linux kernel 3.1.10 :(
[LG Optimus 2x] alakyr:
raffaele cinquegrana, pr of lg italia, said that and nvidia confirmed it...if you want i can send you the discussion in pm on facebook to you but it's in italian and i'll don't understand nothing :S
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi, you could use it with Photoshop if ADOBE made it for ANDROID. There are however a few apps that support pressure sensitivity.

Have fun. Anil

---------- Post added at 11:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:43 AM ----------

Ciao alakyr, mi piacerebbe leggerlo. Grazie mille. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hZG9iZS5wc21vYmlsZSJd

;)
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi Rusty, I have used Photoshop Express, and quite frankly it's pants. I've been using Photoshop for nearly 20 years, and it is one of my all time favourite apps. If one wants the full version of Photoshop on a tablet. Then it's time to buy a Windows tablet, not my first choice.

How's your NOKIA with Windows? Still rocking your world?

Have fun. Anil

EDIT: Just wanted to add, that Photoshop Express is in no way shape or form a pared down version of Photoshop. It should simply be called, ImageEdit. Because that's about it.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
I know it's crap, but it had the right name :D

I'm on my second Lumia, the first one died, annoyingly. Still a good bit of kit though.
[LG Optimus 2x] Emre9110:
when will it leak ?
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Whenever humankind achieves light speeds? Or whenever Anonymous hack in and get it for us? Take a guess you might be right.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] aquilinux:
hidden ssid wifi issue (latest NovaHD + latest wkpark kernel 3.0.8)

hi all.

any solution for ICS not connecting to hidden ssid wifi AP?

i'm running latest of both NovaHD+wkpark kernel 3.0.8 .

new kernel is really smooth!

cheers.
[LG Optimus 2x] kornrullez:
new kernel

is the camara /video acceleration working now? nobody say something.

the only reason i dont use cm9 is because of the camara.

i like to make pictures en video,its a main thing of a phone.
[LG Optimus 2x] aquilinux:
no, video hw acc is not working.

but camera works as usual, at least for pictures.

bb
[LG Optimus 2x] andreilica:
As the user above me said, you can use the camera to take pictures. It will make video encoding too when NVIDIA will release the drivers for tegra 2. I am running now the NOVA HD Rom with spica's HP kernel. It is working silky smooth and I recommend it! :)
[LG Optimus 2x] Optimus-ICS:
My phone has never been so freaking good as it is now, such a good flow! it's really fast. I'm really impressed how well ICS is made. Once all phones get this, the iPhone won't stand a chance. Freakin love it.
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
LMAO. Really? Do you really believe your own comment? One thing I will say about Apple. At least iOS users aren't wondering if and when the next update comes, whether or not whey will get it for their device. Apple make the requirements clear, and if your device meets those requirements, you are good to go.

We only have ICS because of the goodwill of some talented people. Kudos to the CyanogenMod team. Nvidia suck's.

Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Why does nVidia suck? Is it because they do not make their code publicly available? Because, afaik, if you follow this train of thought then Apple should suck at least the same as nVidia, with all their proprietary BS.
[LG Optimus 2x] nuvo84:
I just saw something new in Nvidia's site, in the open source sector. Here is the link..http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources

Is this "CardHu" another name or type for Ventana? I'm :confused:

Sorry for any misleading in advance.
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
I followed your train of thought and I ended up in a dead end, with no HD camcorder functionality. Because in your world, Nvidia write the ANDROID operating system, and get nothing for free. Whereas Apple gets iOS for free, and make proprietary BS. And, they seem to be selling that BS by the millions. 3 milion in one weekend for the latest turd. Thank the Linux gods Google bought Motorola Mobility.

Be careful not trip over anything in that dead end. Anil

PS. My sincere apologies to others for responding to the quoted post. I'm not having a bad day, and the weather is great here in Italy. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Worry not, I have a proper Panasonic camcorder for HD recording.

Keep enjoying that HD camcording feature in a mobile phone in "your" world. Image quality will never ever come close to a proper camcorder, no matter if it has an "HD" label or not.

PS. Just because something sells by the millions it doesn't mean it's good. Take a look at the music industry... ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] bitdomo:
+1
[LG Optimus 2x] HerrKuk:
I think its an distro with some preinstalled tools for Ventana dev-kit

No, i cant help us
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
Which model of Panasonic camcorder? I have an older DV tape Panasonic and want to replace it. Are you satisfied with yours?
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
I'm a sucker for good price/quality ratio (and if you have an O2X I believe you are too), so with that in mind I am very happy with it. I have an HDC-SD80, image quality is fantastic, I would say unbeatable for that price. Just the autonomy isn't that great, you can barely record for more than 1 hour, so you will have to buy an extra battery if you need more than that.

PS: Have we gone off-topic or what?? :D
[LG Optimus 2x] larma:
That's not really the point though and the same argument could be made for GPS, music player and pretty much every other feature that doesn't include texting or calling. I'm sure you don't take your camcorder everywhere. I'm not a big camcorder guy but I would like to have the opportunity to use it when I need to.
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Exactly! So what is the point?

It was said that O2X buyers don't have HD recording because of nVidia. Well, whatever you say no mobile phone has HD recording, if you ask me. What's the point of having a resolution of 1080p if the quality of the pixels are utter crap? I'd rather have 480p with acceptable quality than the 1080p of a mobile phone, so that argument is completely not valid for me.

So what's the point?

Non-nVidia phones are better because they have HD recording? Puleez... If you want to make an HD video don't use your mobile phone period, get a proper camera. Unless having a video with a lot of horrible quality pixels floats your boat...
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi larma, perhaps LarsPT can check the weather, or send an email, or send a WhatsApp message to a friend for free on his HD camcorder? No? I didn't think so.

Any idiot can buy a HD camcorder, but it doesn't mean you are Martin Scorsese. Give our phone to Mr. Scorsese, and I guarantee he will make a better movie than LarsPT and his HD camcorder.

Just a thought. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't make a movie with the wonderful photography of his latest movie 'Hugo' though! This is where you fail to understand that even if two different devices (an HD camcorder and a mobile phone for example) can record at the same resolution (1080p for example) this doesn't mean, not even close, that they will have the same picture quality.

And buddy, I can check the weather, send an email and send a WhatsApp message just fine with my Tegra device, without the HD recording :)

And I can still record videos with the same crappy quality, HD or not, with it. If I really want image quality, I use a proper device for it.

The difference between the "idiot" that buys the HD camcorder is that he can see past the marketing BS. He understands that megapixels aren't everything. He understands that an 8 Megapixel camera in a phone is nowhere near an 8 Megapixel Canon SLR, for example.
[LG Optimus 2x] larma:
I thought the point was pretty obvious. You take your mobile everywhere. If it's supposed to have "HD recording", then the feature should work. It's that simple and I can't understand how anyone can refute that. I don't care if it doesn't hold up to camcorders, it's not supposed to. It's just supposed to work when I see something I want to capture.
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Very well larma. With what you say I can agree. However, when you buy an O2X everything that it's supposed to work with the stock ROM works as advertised. Well, at least for my case it did. Nevermind people who got a faulty equipment.

Now, when you flash a custom ROM, you are aware things might be broken. It's your problem, it's not nVidia's problem. Our friend Anil here seems to believe that it is. And for that reason, he also states that nVidia sucks.

He gave no explanation whatsoever as to why he has that opinion, but since we are talking about ICS not having hardware acceleration in our device because it is Tegra powered, I'm thinking it is because they don't release their code. Hence I jokingly said that, in that case, apple must suck as bad, as everything in apple is proprietary.

Mister Anil went on to defend apple products, or so it seemed, by saying everything works as expected (as in my LG stock product) and people are not expecting for updates or whatever (as I was not in my stock O2X, since everything worked as expected).

So I end up still not getting the point.

Yes, a lot of people still are flashing ICS on their O2X's, even though they lose HD recording. Why? Because HD recording was probably not there to begin with. For you HD recording might be making a video with a very crappy 1080p resolution, but for those people that knowingly accept this compromise HD recording might be something that is not something they do with their mobile phone, so they have nothing to lose.
[LG Optimus 2x] eniux:
my LG stock product wouldnt turn on :( so I flashed cyanogenmod. :cool:

Verstuurd van mijn LG-P990 met Tapatalk
[LG Optimus 2x] Scougar:
lars/larma> You also have to consider that what is important to you, isn't what is important for everyone. If anil wants the HD recording, it would be great to have it, it's a major feature of the phone regardless of whether you guys consider it crap or not. His annoyance is just misdirected, give him some grace in that respect.

Now, back on topic eh? ;-)
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Absolutely Scougar!

And we are more or less hovering around topic, since HD recording is one of the (or pretty much the only one?) features that are broken in the ports of ICS on our phone so far.

Let's remember how this started again. Our friend user Optimus-ICS said, shortly, that his phone had never been greater than now [with ICS], he was really impressed with ICS, once every [android] phone had ICS the iPhone wouldn't stand a chance.

To this Mister Anil replied, in a bit of a rude manner if you ask me, "LMAO. Really? Do you really believe your own comment?"

Well, I, for one, believe it. I think Google has done a great job with ICS, it's an amazing operative system and I believe everyone should be looking forward to it.

And Mister Anil went on to defend apple by saying "At least iOS users aren't wondering if and when the next update comes, whether or not whey will get it for their device."

Of course they aren't... because apple has ceased inovating on that. The difference from iPhone 3 to the 4th generation was basically hardware, the software changes were mere marketing stunts and pretty much offensive to the savvy user (Facetime?! Really??)

So, in the end, for me the point here is that ICS really is an impressive achievement by Google. I am really glad we are already getting a glimpse of it in our O2X's. Unfortunately because of nVidia's policy we still have some broken features but for some these broken features aren't important and they're already enjoying ICS.
[LG Optimus 2x] larma:
Agreed 100 %. I was using ICS for a while and it is far superior if not for those few broken features which is why I had to go back to GB. Sure it would be nice to be able to use ICS now but it's like they say, good things come to those who wait.
[LG Optimus 2x] Optimus-ICS:
What is the reason for the video recording not working?! Is it something with nVidia?
[LG Optimus 2x] slebit:
Jepp, nvidia hasn't release the necessary source code.
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
My apologies if I offended you with my opinion.

Have fun. Mr. Solanki
[LG Optimus 2x] Optimus-ICS:
And they won't either? Isn't it possible to just "rip" the necessary code from the stock roms?
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi Optimus-ICS, unfortunately it's not as simple as that, and anyway, we have to wait for LG to release the stock ICS version, then the code team will be able to extract code, and make all the hardware work. In most cases it will have to be a case of reverse engineering the kernel, or some hacks. Either way they need the ICS rom from LG. Or the drivers from Nvidia, but that won't happen anytime soon.

Which is why I think Nvidia suck. Have fun. Anil
[LG Optimus 2x] slebit:
We can't count on that nvidia will release the source code . We have to patiently wait for lg the release their ics rom, and that will probably take long time...
[LG Optimus 2x] el_charlie:
Totally agree with you Anil,

I didn't learn the lesson on the desktop segment where nvidia doesn't publish any open source material for linux. The release their own propietary drivers.

That's why in OSes like ubuntu you can choose by either use limited HW acceleration or download their propietary drivers.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia#Open_source_software_support

In that article says that even AMD release partial documentation. Intel releases all of their documentation. Nvidia only releases binaries.

Indeed they suck in that aspect.

I, however, have an SLI setup at home with two GTX 560 Ti and I'm very happy because the work on my hackintosh too when not playing games (for that I use Windows). Hardware wise, they have the most powerful hardware in the desktop segment and a respectable position in the mobile area.

Back on topic, when Anil was talking about apple, I think he meant that the update rolls out to all devices at the same time. The most appropiate comparison would be with the Nexus phones, that's why my next Android phone will be a nexus. I'll wait until june to see the next Nexus phone.

The Galaxy SIII could be more powerful but the updates takes time and I don't like that.

In fact, the official update for the Galaxy S2 came out a couple of weeks ago and came with the same interface like Gingerbread. It's not ugly but not as esthetically pleasant as the new Holo theme. You need to use a different launcher in order to get the looks of AOSP.

I usually tend to disagree with many people, but when I do, I respect their opinions.

Just my two cents.

Cheers!
[LG Optimus 2x] icyeye:
@el_charlie - ''Hardware wise, they have the most powerful hardware in the desktop segment...'' well... i am ATI fan so..i dont agree with u :)

coz... it depends who put out newest hardware 1st they got benefits but.. both are rly good. its same like..which cameras are better? NIKON or CANON?? ;)

stay cool mate
[LG Optimus 2x] aksolanki:
Hi el_charlie, thanks for making my point more clearly than I did. I again would like to apologise if I offended anyone.

I've been on ANDROID one year this month. First the ZTE Blade, and currently the LG O2X. In this time, I have learnt a lot. I have a better understanding of the ANDROID landscape, and what to look for in future hardware purchases.

I think Apple make excellent hardware and software. But, their view of the world doesn't match mine. I have been a Mac user for 20 years, and an Apple dev for 10. But when I went to ANDROID, my iOS colleagues simply said "WTF?".

I want hardware choice, but you don't get that from Apple, and for good reasons. Their customer base gravitate towards the simplicity Apple offer. The fact that they make the "whole widget", undeniably creates strong products, world class products. It is there for anyone to see. But it's not what I want.

I want a notification light. I want an interface I have some control over. I want a bigger screen. I want to be able to choose my keyboard. I want widgets. Therefore, I want ANDROID. Which is not perfect, but that is the price of freedom.

As always. Have fun. Anil