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[HTC Amaze 4G] thephunk:
I feel the same way. Even though the screen resolution sucks, no hardware camera buttons and not as "polished"...I use my GS2 most of the time over the Amaze. Sigh. I'm glad I've assisted some though.
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
I had the GS2 for a week and felt like it was way too big and WIDE...resolution not as good...only the black was better color was true black obviously because of amoled techonology I don't necessarily think the color is that much more vibrant and infact I can see my Super LCD screen better in the sun than the super amoled plus on the sg2...everything oversized...cheap plastic feeling....hated touchwiz with a passion. guess no such thing as a perfect phone...
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
can you actually notice how bad the screen resolution is on it? i absolutely loved my sensation screen. if the amaze looks the exact same then i know id love it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Wow! What a difference. Thanks! I didn't even think of this. Just thought it was a crappy setup. I modified the media_profiles.xml file to get zero compression (3-7mb now) and thought that would help. I still had lousy flash shots so pretty much gave up. I tried your mod and it worked! I put one piece of black tape where you said but still had bleed through. I put another on the case back between the two housings figuring that would help. Still some bleed through. I finally put another small piece over the first piece and that did the trick! I must have some cheap electrical tape. :rolleyes: Anyway, the flash pictures now are perfect straight across the shot. All HTC would have had to do is put a little piece of rubber around the flash unit to prevent this. Where are their heads??
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
They did actually put a rubber around the sensation flash unit, actually two of them...I don't know what the heck they were smoking on when they made the amaze.
[HTC Amaze 4G] verkion:
I notice there is a sealing gasket on the cover that goes around the camera unit on mine. Does yours not have that?
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Mine does not go all the way around to isolate it from the flash. I added tape between it and the flash on the cover and the camera and that fixed the problem.
[HTC Amaze 4G] thephunk:
There is, however it is not enough. I think the gasket is not tall enough or the light is passing under the surround within the break in the plastic holding the glass for the camera lens. Either way, what HTC did does not work well to block the light from the flash.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
sooo is any of you gonna amaze us with pics the fixed camera can capture so we can tell the difference or it is gonna be just words??
[HTC Amaze 4G] thephunk:
It's on the first thread. The best way to show is the complete dark photo.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
what is on the first thread? a dark photo cant prove anything, it can be a photo you took with flash off in a totally dark place or just put something in front of the lens and made it completely dark. you can take the same pic you took in the first post and show us how it compares to the before and after the fix pic
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Why would he take a picture with something in front of the lens with the flash off? What purpose would that serve? The best way to see this for yourself is to simply put something over the lens yourself and then take a shot with the flash on. it is

Quite

obvious! The right side of the shot will be reddish. That is all the proof you need.
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
Maybe you should just try taking a picture with something covering the lens yourself with flash on and flash off and then post your pictures.

Nothing like seeing for yourself, right?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
My camera doesnt have such problem and you did not prove your solution really fixes the problem you were talking about. You posted some pics before the fix and then you just took a pic of total darkness which according to you is the best proof. While according to me the best proof would be to go and take a pic of that restaurant u have in ur first post and show us how it looks now after the fix cuz in total darkness everycamera can take flawless pics u know just stick ur finger in ur lens take a pic upload it comes out total darkness and yay everybody problem is fixed. Not that i dont believe yours is a great solution i am just curious to see how much the tape helped
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
Dude what's your deal anyway? Someone found a problem with their camera and posted a fix which seemed to work for everyone else based on the number people that replied saying "thanks this worked" or "thanks that actually helped".

And then you come along trying to disprove the OP? Why?

Why do you need proof? Why do you need more pictures?

If your phone doesn't have this problem then just GTFO the thread. No?

Makes sense right? Instead of giving others a hard time.
[HTC Amaze 4G] thephunk:
If you want the same photo again, I'll do it, but it well have to be on your dime. 4 hours drive at $10 an hour (pretty reasonable price when taking time away from my family), plus gas at about $35. Also I will need a food allowance of at least $50 to eat there. So just Paypal me $125 and I will hook you up.

If not, then please take my original photos for what they are...flash was on for all of them. I had to create a controlled environment so I put electrical tape over the lens and case back on the phone. 2 photos taken, one without mod, one with. The one with mod still has a little bleed, but far less.

There were just too many variables in the real world that could change the way the camera reacts. This is the best way to show the results of the mod.

Oh, and the deal is still on the table, the steak there was awesome!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
wow look at this big boy commenting :D actually you are the last person in this forum who has the right to comment since you havent rooted your phone yet cuz u are more ***** than *******;) till the moment he doesnt post pics nobody believes that **** fix of him. as it regards the number of thanks, those serve only to vaginas like you to stick them in your ass so it stops bleeding:) p.s change that profile pic of yours btw cuz gay is not the way big boy;)

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whatever the fact you posted 10pics before the fix and you posted just 1 after the fix makes it suspicious. might be easier to just ask htc to ship you a new backplate since they manifactured new ones thats what fixed my flash issue of the camera. And again the fact that you reply using a samsung galaxy sII makes it even more suspicious that you are just one of those trolls who like making people believe this phone has many hardware issues this way they come buy the samsung. I dont give a damn what people buy, is just not fair coming from samsung forums posting **** here and trying to make it look like there are so many things wrong with it. When you post more than 5 pics after the fix may be your fix can count. Until then you are very welcome to keep this **** for youR and you gsII :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] brocco99:
Thanks @thephunk for finding the tape solution and sharing it.

Since the flash faces unpainted silver metal on the case, to cut reflections I blacked out the metal with a fine-tip felt pen, blacked out the transparent brown plastic around the flash units that faces the metal, and added thephunk's tape solution to boot.

I can't reverse my solution to test what accomplished what -- but I don't care. Glare on the right side of flash photos is gone now -- and I'm really happy with how much better flash photos are turning out now.

Something tells me HTC will -- or already is -- putting thicker gaskets on later builds of the phone. @Verkion -- who knows, perhaps you have a newer design, and maybe, just maybe, posts about this camera issue led to a solution.

Taking a black Sharpie to the inside of the phone felt a little crude -- but now with flash working well, no regrets!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
photos anybody? :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
Seriously?
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
LOL wow, you seriously have some issues or something. i hope you were joking lol

On subject, i would like to see a few photos of the "fix" as well
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Check your inbox. I have a New Year resolution waiting for you.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
lol :P there are no pics of the fix, there are only people samsung pays couple of $/hr to do this spoiled job...samsung is not the only one though, so does htc and all other companies
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
you actually think samsung pays people to talk crap on this forum? they have bigger things to worry about lol, that is so low and a pathetic excuse if you ask me.. i dont that they would waste their time doing that. im not the biggest fan on sammy but still.

on the side note, that is something apple would do haha.
[HTC Amaze 4G] thephunk:
I figure this is directed toward me...I would like to point out one of my threads a couple pages back. If I were a Samsung employee, why would I bash my GS2? In fact, most of my phones are HTC. 2 of the 4 with me are.

It's difficult to replicate the issue in real life. I take many photos (seems to happen with having 2 kids) and the issue tends to happen under specific circumstances (dark or poorly lit, subject is at least 10' away) and occur most often when it's a photo I really want. I don't have the ability to take off the "mod" take a bunch of photos, then when I find the conditions are right tell my wife and kids to hold on while I take out some tape and an X-Acto, spend 5 minutes to fix my phone and take the photo again because some dude on a forum doesn't believe me.

My camera works fine now and I'm glad yours never had the problem.
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
Can you please provide a picture of your backplate as well as the back of your phone where the flash and camera are, perhaps the new Amazes are built differently, If that is the case I would like to know, and would like to get a replacement from HTC...Thanks :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] xManMythLegend:
Top is the black cover that was original...bottom is the white cover sent from HTC few weeks ago.

I dont notice any difference.

BTW What does HBOOT have to do with the camera ?

I took numerous pics this Xmas and was massively underwhelmed by lowlight quality. The "shaky hands" thing came up everytime numerous pics were out of focus and many pics were washed out despite the fix ((which DOES help btw)). Just IMO lowlight is where cameras standout. Perhaps Im expecting too much ? Or just lousy at taking night time pics ?

**Everything default. Perhaps a setting that would help ?
[HTC Amaze 4G] seansk:
Top is the black cover that was original...bottom is the white cover sent from HTC few weeks ago.

I dont notice any difference.

BTW What does HBOOT have to do with the camera ?

I took numerous pics this Xmas and was massively underwhelmed by lowlight quality. The "shaky hands" thing came up everytime numerous pics were out of focus and many pics were washed out despite the fix ((which DOES help btw)). Just IMO lowlight is where cameras standout. Perhaps Im expecting too much ? Or just lousy at taking night time pics ?

**Everything default. Perhaps a setting that would help ?[/QUOTE]

thanks for the pictures, so it is not the back plate then.

They new phones themselves might have put a rubber around the flash unit itself as the sensation has (although i doubt it), I need a picture of a new amaze unit, if anyone has it where the flash and camera are

P.S. we still have the best camera lense on the market right now compared to every other phone...and here is and awesome review with some low light conditions compared to 4s and sgsII and droid bionic http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/i...axy-S-II-vs-Amaze-4G-camera-comparison_id2883
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
Haha yupp that's what I also thought thanks for the great fix:)
[HTC Amaze 4G] mapleleafs89:
Awesome, this is the first thing I noticed when taking pictures. Thought that it was something that couldn't be fixed. Great to know all it takes a bit of tape to solve this issue.

Anyways, thanks for the solution I wouldn't have figured it out.

edit: couldn't get mind as good as yours, with one piece it was still totally noticable, I have about 3 or so on it now and still notice a bit.

They should really just be creating new housings for customers
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
I was wondering when you were going to wander in Binary!

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I also added some tape between the flash and lens cowling on the back cover. that seemed to finally give me a totally black picture. Try that.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Okay, here are some pictures for those (singular) who have a problem with their brains and those who would like to see the results. There are 8 shots. Step 1 is without any mods but black tape covering the lens. As you can see, without tape, there is bleed through from the flash. Step 2 is with a small piece of black tape between the flash and lens. There is still some bleed through. Step 3 is with a piece of black tape between the flash and lens openings on the back cover. There is still a bit of bleed through but not much. Looks pretty good. Step 4 is the last mod. I put another small piece of black tape between the flash and the lens. Maybe my black electrical tape is thin and not totally opaque?? Anyway, you can see that now the shot with tape over the lens is totally black and the picture has no bleed through and is very uniform. I wasn't willing to go outside at night in the cold so I hope these room shots will be good enough for the naysayer (singular!)

http://www.box.com/s/ude2azneb8e0hhlur5gn
[HTC Amaze 4G] mapleleafs89:
Thanks. Yes I did end up putting a piece of tape also on the backcover between the lense hole and the flash holes. Be careful not to put it overlapping with the soft foam like covering around the camera lense hole, if you mess up like I did and take the tape off that stuff comes off very easily. I believe this stuff is ment to block out the flash so if it comes off like mine did it actually makes it even worse. No worries though, I added more tape to the right of it in between the holes and its very good now.
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
Can you post a picture of what you're talking about?
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Yeah nguy...here ya go! Just reopen the link. It is the "Tape on back cover.jpg" image.

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Here ya go nguy...just reopen the link http://www.box.com/s/ude2azneb8e0hhlur5gn and click on the "Tape on back cover.jpg" and it will show a close up of what I did.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Here ya go nguy...just reopen the link http://www.box.com/s/ude2azneb8e0hhlur5gn and click on the "Tape on back cover.jpg" and it will show a close up of what I did.

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Sorry about that! I'm still recovering from last night's fun!
[HTC Amaze 4G] stixzadinya:
Just a heads up, I've called HTC regarding this issue because I've heard there's a new back cover that fixes this issue... that's not true. I've talked with three reps (one I argued with because he kept telling me the flash bleed doesn't exist, retard) and all confirmed that there's no new back cover. SO don't waste your time like I did calling them for a new back cover. Oh, and there's nothing in the works to fix this problem either, so they said.
[HTC Amaze 4G] SuperMiguel:
so tape is the only fix?
[HTC Amaze 4G] stixzadinya:
yup... tape, magic marker and/or some fairy dust.
[HTC Amaze 4G] nguyendqh:
Definitely don't for the fairy dust!
[HTC Amaze 4G] Lunaillij:
I called tmob today complaining about the camera flash bleeding issue. I was trying to get a new back cover but they ended up sending me a replacement phone instead, even after telling them that the issue wasn't the phone.

So afterwards I called HTC complaining about the same issue. the lady I talked to was very nice but she wasn't aware of the issue. I told her that with the research I've done about the issue (this xda forum), that i read that HTC was aware of the issue and it was fixed with the newer housings. She apologized that I was having the issue and offered me a white or black housing. I picked the white one.

I know someone already posted pix of a new backplate they got. But I'll let you guys know if there is a difference in the gasket for the camera on the new back housing I get.

Well, at least I'm getting a new phone and housing.

Sent from my HTC Amaze running Quiksense v3
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
did you try using some other camera app and see if the issue still exists? I am pretty positive it is a software issue since with hdr camera+ there is no flash bleeding, while with stock camera you can notice some bleed
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
If that were the case then the Sensation, Vivid, Rezound, and mytouch 4g slide would all have the same issue. They dont though so its something to do with the Amaze =/
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
did u get the amaze? and who told you all the phones you mentioned have the same camera software? I noticed when I use my other camera app in my white amaze the bleed doesnt exist, it only exists when using the stock camera
[HTC Amaze 4G] mapleleafs89:
If that were the case then if you taped it all up then there would still be bleeding, but after you tape it the bleed is gone... :rolleyes:
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
prolly u right i never used this solution...still eagerly waiting to see some pictures taken after the tape was applied but so far nobody has been kind enough to upload any pics lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
The mytouch 4g and Amaze have the exact software and camera yet it doesnt exist on the mytouch 4g. and it has the exact camera on the vivid, the vivid doesnt have the camera key though, thats the only difference. sensation has a different camera but similar software. and no i havent got my phone yet, im waiting for it to ship to me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Have you even bothered to read the entire thread? On page 7, I posted a link to 9 pictures showing step by step results of before and after tape mods! Read

all

posts!
[HTC Amaze 4G] CalicoJeb:
Finally tried this today - it actually works, just have to apply the tape properly.

Thanks thephunk :-) pretty creative & easy
[HTC Amaze 4G] Totòòò:
Lol ok will make sure to let the congress know of this great invention :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] babymatteo:
can't believe how a small piece of elec tape can fix such a big design flaw.

Thanks OP! the trick worked great for me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Because the lazy HTC Amaze designers decided that putting a small black rubber or felt insulator around the flash unit would just cost too much money, like an extra 5 cents...cuts into their profit!
[HTC Amaze 4G] thephunk:
Hope you don't mind, added a link to your post with the images (before and after modification) to the original post. Hopefully everyone will be able to see the picture proof. ;)
[HTC Amaze 4G] frodoboy:
Thanks for doing that. That may quell a lot of questions about proof! :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] InfinitiGuy:
I implemented this fix on my HTC Amaze and the results are much better pictures now.

I can't post pictures yet since I'm too new here but I will in the future.
[HTC Amaze 4G] junkeeroo:
Thank you for allowing my Amaze to be my new point and shoot.

I had to tape between the flashes and lens + same area on inside of back cover and now, the Amaze, as advertised has the best camera out there (not that I've tried any others besides my Nexus1 =).
[HTC Amaze 4G] realitysconcierge:
After some playing around, I noticed that you can see the light from the flashlight through the hole for the camera. After careful examination it looks like HTC did account for this with a raised bezel. The problem being that the case would need to sit flush against the phone to work. You can press on the back to eliminate the problem, but phunk's idea is much more permanent and practical. -Just my two cents :-)
[HTC Amaze 4G] InfinitiGuy:
Attached are some pictures I took with the lens covered of the before and after the tape fix.

Before fix (Stock)

After applying black electrical tape - Much less flash haze

After applying black electrical AND using a sharpie pen around flash plastic.

A little better than previous fix.

Location of tape fix.
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
where exactly did you put black sharpie? ^ thanks
[HTC Amaze 4G] InfinitiGuy:
It's on the side plastic housing of the flash located just underneath the black electrical tape. You can see a small smudge of it between the 2 LEDs on the right side when the sharpie slipped :-)
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
oh okay i see it, by the blue line? so you just circle around the LEDs? looks much improved. ill have to try this when i get electrical tape
[HTC Amaze 4G] InfinitiGuy:
Just to make sure, it's not on the LED lens but on the side plastic of the LED housing.
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
Do you mean around the square thing that the LEDs are on, or around the actual LEDs itself (just not on them)?
[HTC Amaze 4G] InfinitiGuy:
Around the rectangle holding the LEDs.
[HTC Amaze 4G] stratax:
ohh, yeah i see the lines now. whenever i do this ill post my results
[HTC Amaze 4G] mapleleafs89:
Sharpie helped a lot, had to do two coats and did the tape too for good measure.

Perfect now.
[HTC Amaze 4G] unittdot:
Thanks for this info, now just have to find the tape somewhere in my toolbox. The very first picture I took worried me due to this washed-out effect (bought the phone mainly for the camera).
[HTC Amaze 4G] Snakecharmed:
I always like reading about these kinds of physical mods, especially when the fix is easily concealed. I definitely prefer doing this to editing files.

As for the several derp-infused posts in this thread, I'm not surprised that they were all from the now-gone resident thread crapper.
[HTC Amaze 4G] lonz358:
The tape worked! Camera is perfect now thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] thephunk:
I do have to say that around page 5 of this thread, I got a little upset by how it was going and "checked-out". For someone who doesn't post much, i only wanted to post less.

Now looking at the responses now, I am very excited on how many people this has helped and how the fix has evolved with the sharpie. I'm going to do this on my phone as well.
[HTC Amaze 4G] the show stopper:
i haven't tried the fix but i will.

the only one thing that was bothering me is that the pic # 4 is only 403.5 kb where all the other pictures are atleast 2.3mb. that's weird.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ITALIANNYC:
Bout to try this right now. I hate the fact that I need to do this on a brand new phone, but based on what I am reading, most of the amaze phones are like this. No point in getting a replacement sent to me.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ITALIANNYC:
I still get that light. I completely messed up this job didnt I? LOL

What am I doing wrong
[HTC Amaze 4G] inuyasha1999:
You need to push the tape down along the housing between the flash and camera lens. That should help.