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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] noyade:
I'm about to hit up the skyrocket as I'm in Houston and would like to make use of being in that lte market area. So I had a couple of quick questions on the 5% people are talking about. Are they taking it by the month, or are they looking at individual averages across billing cycles. Either way, if you wait towards the end would that allow you to use more data as other people had been raising the data cap through out the term? Plus as more people get lte that use the grandfathered unlimited data plan wouldn't the 5% average begin to increase due to more individuals pushing that limit?

From a 3g perspective - I'm not seeing where 3g users are coming from in justifying why they should stick with 3g to avoid being throttled in this thread. Would they not still be throttled if they were hitting that top 5% of data even with 3g speeds? Even if 3g wasn't throttled I'd rather hit a data limit due to speed and be throttled after that, rather than have a terribly slow connection and not hit that lte limit due to slow speeds. I'm paying for unlimited data on my 3g connection, but I'll never even hit the 2 or 4gb limit on the tiered plans. It's not worth my time to do anything on the phone other than what's necessary with 3g. Even if my amount of data usage did not change, I'd rather have the quick loads of lte or 4g in general if I'm going to have to pay.

That being said, I'm certainly not advocating for throttled speeds. I think at the very least they should have a multi-tier throttle system in place. Or only cap if you are in the 5% for a few days and then release the throttle if you fall out of the top 5 or 10%.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kronikwisdom:
I'm throttled at 4.5 gb and still would rather be limited to 100kbs than on 3g with 250kbs and.400 ping.

Troll it hard!!!

http://forums.att.com/t5/General-Ca...nlimited-data-plan-users/td-p/2815907/page/19
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 580guy:
This my concern about swapping my GS2 for the Skyrocket. I am in my 30 day upgrade window for AT&T and have the grandfathered unlimited plan.

LTE is not in my area, but I travel extensively and overseas. If there was just a way to turn off LTE on the Skyrocket!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] epicstar1:
Apparently I'm part of the 5%:

Next Bill Cycle: 12/11/2011

Data (MB): 167.1 of Unlimited (Deactivated)

Data (MB): 1036.4 of Unlimited

Messaging: 1379 of Unlimited

Visit us online at www.att.com/DataPlans
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] appdroid:
I don't tether and never had problem and lookie how much i use!!!!!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kronikwisdom:
Oh come on.. show the rest of your data usage for other months. I call BS!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] appdroid:
Well if you don't believe than just don't but as i said I used to be heavy data user and now i only use about 4/5 GB a month plus this was back in July i believe.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Just got text again and I've only used 2.5 gigs. Looks like i'm gonna go back to my iPhone. No sense on paying for a device I can't get full use out of.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] silver03wrx:
Thats exactly what your doing when u buy an iphone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Not sure I follow..I get full use out of my iphone. Its not LTE..my point if I bought and LTE phone and live in an LTE area, but can't get LTE speeds..why did I buy the thing. I'm just going to go back to my iphone..not buy one, where I'll get the speeds that I pay for. I used an average of 10gigs a month on the iphone and never got that text. A week after I switch to an LTE phone they throttle me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] pingfl00d:
I donpt even live in an lte area and I got throttled
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Phone choice is not going to change anything at this point. Its based off your usage....changing phones initiated a new contract and this is part of the new contract.

On that note....still have not been throttled even tho I got the text
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I got two messages..the first said I was "approaching" the limit, the 2nd, a day later, said I have "reached" the limit. So that might be why. Either way, you are probably right. I LOVE this phone, it just sucks that I paid extra for a feature I really can't use. LTE speed in this area are blazing fast..and luckily I have the work around where I can still get HSPA+ speeds even if they throttle me...so I guess I just have to live with..until they figure out a way to block that too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shansmi:
I am pretty sure it does matter on the phone. The new phones come with the PTA APN and the old phones are still on phone and MMS APNs. I got that message but was never throttled up to 6.5GB here in Dallas. It must be by market or something as certainly 6.5GB is NOT the freaking top 5% nationwide. Since there is no disclosure on what the top 5% actually means ( a website showing usage we can all see and budget to stay off of), I may just return my SR as well. If they think that highly of their LTE, they can have it back. The fact that there is no incremental warning is just bad for business. They should at least say you have xMB left before you are throttled etc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
That would explain why when I switch to "phone" and the MMS APN i'm no longer throttled. As soon as I switch over to PTA APN, I am down to 100kbps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Odd indeed

As I have stated I have not been throttled, on any apn for that matter

All speeds have remained consistant.

What rom are you throttled guys using?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mvblink182:
Yeah it is throttled to edge speeds. The apn trick and changing radios has also stopped working for me in Chicago. The new radio seems to pickup a little bit better signal and doesn't lose connection as much.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Weird....still works for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] privatewarrior1:
are you over 5GB?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
Still works for me so far i am at 7GB on lte and when i switch to wap it works just the same, no throttle yet
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
I'm at 6gb, not throttled yet
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] privatewarrior1:
It seems like they haven't started implementing the new policy yet.

Hope they'll never do.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] noberly0203:
I have been throttled at 5 gigs ! 232 kbps download 1235 kbps upload. That's A joke. That have started throttling at 5gbs for Lte phones and 3gbs for 4g . I spent a lot of time on this. This is the policy for know. Or until someone calls to ask about it.

From my Rocket
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
they finally got me this cycle 4 days left... unable to bypass either...

last few months I hit 80gb+ in my protests (after being throttled with bypass tricks) ... impossible now :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] upyouratrix:
Well, this is the new warning that I just got tonight:

ATT Free Msg: Your data usage on your 4G LTE smartphone is near 5GB this month. Exceeding 5GB during this or future billing cycles will result in reduced data speeds, though you'll still be able to email & surf the web. Wi-Fi helps you avoid reduced speeds. Visit www.att.com/datainfo or call 866-344-7584 for more info.

Total bull! I was able to use 10GB before throttle in Phoenix. I average 8-10 and now my usage amount needs to be cut in half? I'm totally ticked! I still have 7 days in my billing cycle. Looks like I'll be giving CS a friendly call tomorrow...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] byrdtulsa:
I got the same message last night but haven't been throttled yet. Did they throttle u.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] upyouratrix:
No throttle yet. I streamed radio most of last night and I'm at 5.2Gb as of this morning. I updated about 15 apps this morning and I'm still getting 50Mbps. 6 more days in my billing cycle. We'll see what happens.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] upyouratrix:
And now I'm throttled. No message sent today. Just the one I got yesterday.

I'm on the phone now with AT&T
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
What was the conversation like?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] rj83:
People seem to get caught up on the spectrum issue, and in select LTE markets it is a gating factor, however the larger issue has proven to be radio equipment, better usage of the existing spectrum, and beefing up their back haul. AT&T is constantly adding capacity to adjust to the ever increasing demand and have been further stifled by their latest misstep, the T-Mobile debacle.

That said, their woes have no bearing on the fact that they happily sold me my unlimited plan, and were glad to take my money for my shiny new LTE phone. They should have either forced the new LTE users onto a tiered plan, or they should cap the tethering to 3G speeds if not do away with it altogether. The inconsistency and lack of transparency is just one more step down a path of poor decisions by a Carrier that has developed a wireline attitude in a wireless world.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] upyouratrix:
For starters, it wasn't a very fun conversation. I'll try to keep my ranting down and just share the facts. They seem to have a specific department for handling calls with people that are being throttled. She (Kelly) told me that she can not remove the throttle or raise the cap at which I'm throttled. They can also not credit us for any remaining days in our billing cycle that we're throttled. When I asked "Can I speak to a manager?" she told me that everyone in their room are the same level as a floor manager and that there isn't a boss I could talk to (I even got her to tell me she doesn't have a boss, and I laughed). She then proceeded to tell me about some section (6.x) of the contract stating that they could reduce speeds to preserve the network, at which point I asked "So, if I was on a tiered plan and wanted to use 20GB of data, I could because I'm paying for it, but you won't throttle that person?" And she said she, "I'm 'pretty' sure they would be throttled or have their service canceled for using that much data". I found that answer interesting. So, I proceeded to complain, as I told her that I average 8-10GB per month and have for quite some time and all she could tell me was, "Sorry, we cap unlimited LTE data plans at 5GB, if you'd like to use more than that with out being slowed down, then you could switch to a tired plan". So, now I'm getting angry and I asked her why they set the cap at 5GB and she told me because that's the amount where it starts to become harmful to the network, so I asked her if she could send me their data showing such, and she told me only someone as high as a CEO would have that information, but I continued to request it. I also requested her to show me data as to how they throttle us actually improves bandwidth of the network, and once again, she couldn't provide me with the data.

I'm convinced AT&T is pulling these facts out of their ass and have no factual evidence that us on "unlimited" plans are even causing a strain on the network. I got rather upset at her and said, "well, I hope more people keep suing you in small claims court and maybe I'll even open one myself". I'm still not happy with being throttled. I'm going to call customer retentions today and see what they have to say. I won't go down without a fight! At least the new throttled speeds are better, but 0.5Mbps down and up still blows when I'm in an LTE market.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Just repeatedly call tech support complaining that nothing web related works with specific details ie market gas web pages mms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] upyouratrix:
Does anyone else notice much poorer battery life when you're throttled?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
So is the work around not working for anyone anymore? Its still working for me...but i'm not throttled yet. Worked for me last month, but I haven't been throttled since the new policy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] privatewarrior1:
This sounds like an ATT press release.

---------- Post added at 03:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:33 PM ----------

it's funny how ATT just changed their unlimited policy altogether just to implement T-mobile's data cap policy.

---------- Post added at 03:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:39 PM ----------

btw this automatic merging of posts is gay.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WIZARDfan:
ATT is sending $935 to the Guy who won the case in small claims court.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-03/D9THRTQG0.htm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I don't know how you guys are using this much data anyways.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WIZARDfan:
Read all of the posts. This question has been asked more than once and there are several answers posted.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
shenanigans.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
I can see why there is some disapproval, but lets be honest. On an unlimited plan the only way to stop so much usage is throttle, on a tier based plan they're basically "fined" for excessive usage. If they did't do this everyone would be abusing the network, which can't currently support such capacity. I understand ur frustration, but in this case I don't think its so much a big company screwing the big guy... yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I agree with this. Everyone that's streaming constantly and using 5GB+ is just screwing everyone over and abusing the network.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
IMO: It's silly to designate one number as the threshold that crosses into the abuse level. If AT&T was truly only worried about abuse of the network they would throttle like Verizon does. The current throttling is punitive to try to get people to ditch unlimited plans.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
That's not that way data works. There isn't a bucket of bytes that can be used up. Network congestion is caused by the 95% of users rather than the 5% of large "data hogs" Think of it as car on an interstate. If i'm a truck driver (data hog) that drives all day everyday, it does little as far as traffic congestion is concerned. But the real traffic congestion is the cars that are on during rush hour that only drive for a short period during peak hours. This is nothing more than a money grab.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I know it isn't a bucket of bytes that are used up. It's all the data hogs put together that stream all day everyday sucking up all the bandwidth. And that plus the times when all the regular users get on at peak hours makes it really bad. I see your point, though. I just don't see why these guys have to use so much data. I had unlimited and I never went over 5gb, not even close.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Per AT&T its only 5% of total users...lets use the interstate analogy again....100 cars during rush hour...lets remove 5%, 95 cars still on the interstate. Doesn't do much to stop network congestion does it? This is all about money...not to mention, the LTE network is not even close to being congested.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I wouldn't know about LTE, it's not in very many places. The top 5% are also using way more data than the average user, so your percentage doesn't matter much because 95 cars could be using less than the truck driver.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Once again..it doesn't matter "how much" because there is no bucket of bytes. The number of bytes someone downloads has nothing to do with network congestion. Network congestion is caused by higher speeds or number of users. Bandwidth is congested based on speeds and users, not how many bytes those users have used.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Its not the number I am talking about, it's that they are streaming all day long which is the problem
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I've average 7-9 gigs a month and have never streamed all day long....not even close. 1 Netflix movie can be 1-2 gigs. slingbox 1-2 gigs per hour. Not to mention many apps will give your greater quality if you have more bandwidth (LTE), so its very simple to rack up 5 gigs on LTE. Especially people that travel, or don't have access to wifi at work. Once again, this is about nothing other than money and ATT trying to get Unlimited users into tiered plans so they can fleece them for dollars.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I travel all the time, I don't use that much, and quit watching movies at work!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] upyouratrix:
Why should we be judged how we use our phone? I'm just using my phone exactly how it was intended based upon the apps I chose to run. I listen to music while at work and at the gym via Pandora or Google music. With all this push for using "the cloud" we're going to consume more data. The wireless data industry realizes this and is simply capitalizing by using tiered plans.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
cool, stream it up

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cwright12:
yes!!!

worked wonderfully for me! I am similar to you in that i use TONS of data on att's unlimited 4g plan using the new skyrocket.

thank you for your guide!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] weshalodude:
I got over 9 gigs last month without even warning of a throttle (I switched right before the warning usually hits)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
That's exactly what I do every month, once my usage is about to be 5GB on LTE I swicth apn and I don't see any throttling.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Steve Jobs®:
I just updated my baseband to the new UCLA3 fixed by silverwrx03 and installed NexusMod 4 and I am still getting throttled even though I switched APN's and switched the Network Mode to GSM/HSPA. Is there any way to fix this? Please. :confused:

I even downgraded back to 2.3.5 based rom [boneStocketeer] and I am still being throttled... Is anyone else having this problem?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] rwc3b:
This top 5% throttling thing is rubbish and arbitrary. If this continues every month by slowing down the top users every month the throttling threshold point would eventually decrease to zero
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jim93:
This makes no sense. The top 5% never becomes more than the top 5%. By definition it will not affect 95% of users.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Steve Jobs®:
Just wondering, is there any fix for this or is this a permanent throttle now? I mean I used both 2.3.5 and 2.3.6 Roms and I am still getting throttled. Is anyone having this issue? :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I don't know..its still works for me. Weird that its working for some and not others. I wonder if switching the APN before you actually get throttled is the trick for these folks. I would try that on your next billing cycle...right before you hit 5gb switch the APN.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
That's what i posted a while back, I constansly change apn

specially when I know I'm reaching the 5GB on LTE.

and after I reached 5GB on any apn I swithc back and forth.

I don't know if it actually does anything or it might just be a sweet sugar pill effect
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Steve Jobs®:
I was wondering for those who arent throttled, which rom and baseband are you using? I am on the following:

UCLA3 [silverwrx03] baseband

NexusMod 4 rom

2.3.6 base [at&t] w/ network mode enabled

If we cant get any answers for this issue, I will be selling my Skyrocket. Any offers? It is in Mint Condition, been in a Case-Mate case the whole time, no scratches whatsoever. Oh yeah its [black] phone. PM me with offers if interested.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
I'm on Buyancy 1.4.0

ucla kernel

2.3.6

Got the message from att today about approching the 5GB on lte, so I immidiately change apn
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I'm using Skyrocketeer. 2.3.5 base at&t.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yoyochuckd:
You guys still talking bout this bull****. Avg 20-70g month. Never throttled. Att throttles @ 5.1g as I'm sure you all know

Switching apns helps a lot. Also call att tell em your internet not working they e register u on network. Resets it all Viola!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
Can anyone confirm this works? Talk to a regular CSR or someone in the special throttling department? Just say my bla bla and my bla bla don't work anymore, can you please reset the "????" ? And they do?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Anyone know if the throttle bypass still works with ICS. (For those of us that it actually still works for)