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[LG Optimus 2x] g0at:
Time of chat: 7/31/2012 3:37:36 PM

Length of chat: 00:07:20

Your name: g0at

Chatted with: Mobile Phone Support

3:37 PM Mobile Phone Support: Hello, g0at. Can I help you with anything today?

3:37 PM Mobile Phone Support: Good afternoon you're through to Pascal, how can I help you today? Following this chat there is a short survey that will allow you to rate the Live Chat service you have received today. We appreciate all feed back given.

3:37 PM g0at: Hello, the Optimus2x (p990) android handset...

3:37 PM g0at: Without discussing timings..

3:38 PM g0at: 1) Are LGUK planning for an Ice Cream Sandwich update for this handset?

3:38 PM g0at: 2) If so, can you divulge how far along the process you are? (i.e analysis/ development/testing/planning deployment?)

3:38 PM g0at: Thanks Pascal

3:42 PM Mobile Phone Support: Ok, as far as we know the UK P990 2x is being considered for receiving the Ice-cream sandwich update , and regarding the release ,we do not have an official date of release but should be very soon as the update is in its final stages of Beta mode.

3:43 PM g0at: ah, fantastic - you said 'beta mode' - I assume you mean testing?

3:44 PM Mobile Phone Support: I can confirm that it is in testing , but we do not have a release date yet .

3:44 PM g0at: Thanks Pascal

edit: not really adding much more than we knew already, other than UK are considering an update, meaning reliance on Korea isn't our only hope.. Also, taking this with a HUGE pinch of salt seeing as Pascal has probably been briefed what to say not knowing anything about the state of play with the update..

edit2: I should have asked how many stages of testing there and what's after testing..
[LG Optimus 2x] aze2:
yes, a ICS is in work and we can have a release date very soon...

please!! a leakkkkk
[LG Optimus 2x] Pascalwb:
aze2: I think LG UK said it's in testing at the beginning of July, so don't expect anything soon.
[LG Optimus 2x] Kag:
They are both different tegra 2 processors. Don't check the tegra wiki page cause the devices listed is inaccurate.
[LG Optimus 2x] bliizzz:
He meant beta which means theyall might have got hwa working...hope some one can ask sir Paul to get a leak
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
I have a feeling we might get ics this week

Enviado desde mi GT-P7500 usando Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 2x] djvoleur:
Ooooooooo reeeeeally? That would be awesome :)
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
I still want to bet.

25€ that we won't get it this week, are you in? :good:
[LG Optimus 2x] fgfgh167:
seems like ics update for all tegra devices starts today with galaxy tab (tegra 2). galaxy r/z is still waiting. dunno what to think about o2x. may be it will be next or never?
[LG Optimus 2x] anjo88:
i don´t think so!
[LG Optimus 2x] Samizzu321:
Sorry to say....

No ICS for optimus 2x... http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42622/ice-cream-sandwich-when-update

Maybe, i could be wrong...

My phone, optimus 3d GETTING ICS LoL XD:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
[LG Optimus 2x] mironiko:
Tonyp, when will you ask RC those questions you prepared for him? Or, if you alredy did, when can we expect him to answer?

Just asking, nothing more. Thanks! :)

Rece O2X, omogucio Tapatalk
[LG Optimus 2x] Waechter40:
I don't think we get ICS till the 3.Q.

LG is woking very very hand to satisfy their cusomers. Believe, LG makes a surprise and brings for all of us the Magic Jelly Bean.

:laugh: Big Joke for all :laugh:
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Most probably we'll get ics announcement around in a week....according to lg India Coz I have bugged then thru almost all numbers available to me..he checked the LG official systems and told official Indian will be at the end of year but initial Korea or European version will be available soon...
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Will take 1-2 weeks.
[LG Optimus 2x] ironman159:
I started learning Java and my program answered this for my question at the first try:

http://www.image-share.com/ijpg-1647-22.html

Have a good day!
[LG Optimus 2x] Waechter40:
I Hope your crystal ball don't lie :D
[LG Optimus 2x] darkshot:
I hope which release very soon the ICS for optimus 2x.
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
guys, how can i get a definitive statement stating that we will get ics, whenever i email lg they will reply as vague as usual, "we are currently accessing ics update suitability bla bla bla", can we just get a yes or no answer
[LG Optimus 2x] FelipeBHZ:
We Cannot. Unless you know someone who is a leader of any LG HQs or a developer on an important position!

:)
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
You cannot possibly be real to post THIS rumour again after it has been discussed on pretty much every single page in this thread for days.
[LG Optimus 2x] MS Gray Man:
Me, I'm still waiting for the answer to the question several pages back....

Why can't cows fly?

.... sorry couldn't resist it!
[LG Optimus 2x] Kag:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_can't_cows_fly

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110714135127AAF9fR5
[LG Optimus 2x] FoliathR:
Gosh that is SO Singaporean.

My dear XDA friends, this is how LG Singapore's customer service works:

0.5) Curse the customer for sending in an email, no matter what it's about. (Optional)

1) Copy the template below:

2) Paste, edit just those few fields and send.

3) Kopi (coffee) break anyone?
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
Is the Indian version through carriers or is there an unbranded 2x available (or both)?
[LG Optimus 2x] aze2:
the 16 jul.

here:

http://www.lgblog.fr/2012/07/10/lop...one-quad-core-arrive-en-france/#comment-71320

toto say:

Benjamin (LG)

THE NEXT LG MOBILE TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE (ICS) IS OPTIMUS 2X (nothing new... ok)
[LG Optimus 2x] agent0105:
I got answer from LG Finnish helpdesk and it isn't looking good :crying::(:mad:

In Finnish:

LG Tuki: Hei *************. Miten voin auttaa teitä?
************: Hei! Milloin LG P990 eli Optimus 2X vastaanottaa ICS päivityksen?
************: Onko siellä ketään?
LG Tuki: Emme olla vielä saaneet vahvistusta tarkasta ajankohdasta.
************: Mutta tuleeko se Elokuussa vai vuoden päästä?
LG Tuki: Viimeisin tieto on että mikäli päivitys julkaistaan niin se tulee syksyn/talven aikana.
************: OK Kiitos vastauksesta
LG Tuki: Kiitos yhteydenotosta.
LG Tuki: Hyvää päivän jatkoa teille.

Translation to English:

LG Support: Hi ************. How can I help you?
************: Hi! When will the P990 alias optimus 2X receive ICS update?
************: Is there anybody?
LG Support: We have not yet got the confirmation about the timing of the update
************: But will it be released during August or Next year?
LG Support: The latest information is that if the update will be released then it will be released during Autumn/Winter
************: Ok, thank you for your answer.
LG Support: Thank you for contacting us!
LG Support: Have a nice day.

Please you LG engineer or product tester or anyone who is working with ICS update. Please leak it here. No matter how beta it is.. Just do it!
[LG Optimus 2x] anjo88:
same s**t of awnser!
[LG Optimus 2x] aze2:
Yes, please, leak to Paul or other Big ROM dudes, they know how to do and how to preserve your anonymity
[LG Optimus 2x] fgfgh167:
LG: To be, or not to be ICS for Optimus 2x? That is the question. :)))))))))))))
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
Regional centres are clueless until they either get something from Korea or they make their own early decision like Canada did without even seeing the update.

Anyone heard any progress from Korea recently?
[LG Optimus 2x] fgfgh167:
Android history:

Android 2.3.x Gingerbread - December 6, 2010

Android 3.x Honeycomb - February 22, 2011

Android 4.0.x Ice Cream Sandwich - October 19, 2011

Android 4.1.x Jelly Bean - June 27, 2012

LG Optimus 2x - February 2011

From above is obvious that O2X is currently updated to the actual version of the date of its release, namely with ginger, which is released on December 6, 2010. That is mean that there is no customer support at all and no updates at all for O2X.

That is outrageous. It is not normal, even for the crappiest company in the world to sell expensive products without supported it at least 1-2 years. lol
[LG Optimus 2x] Tranos:
from q2 we went really fast to automn or winter(q4)
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Plz plz guys bug them I enjoy but now I guess they recognize me plz guys help me and big then so much that they have to release the ics plz call on the toll free number 18001809999
[LG Optimus 2x] slebit:
I don't think that calling them will help. They will just say some standard frases that ics is in development.
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
Totally agree with you.

PS: I personally discouraged about 20 people from buying LG products (phones, TVs etc...). Everyone of us should try to discourage people from buying things from this crappy company.
[LG Optimus 2x] skylinegt77:
so samsung, motorola and others are also crappy companies since they dont have ics for atrix, galaxy r... which have the same chipset as our o2x
[LG Optimus 2x] fgfgh167:
samsung already gave ICS update to Galaxy tab series (tegra 2) and confirmed ICS and JB for Galaxy R/Z. As for motorola i am really suprised because it is google's property. But not giving at least a year or two support for top line products makes every company crappy.
[LG Optimus 2x] skylinegt77:
galaxy r is the only 1 that uses the same tegra 2 as p990, galaxy tab uses a diferent tegra 2 platform...

bottom line is, there is no ics at all for devices with the same EXACT chipset as the p990
[LG Optimus 2x] fgfgh167:
I don't see the point. tegra 2 or tegra 10000 or exynos or intel. there must be updates for a certain time. ginger is android version which is older than the release date of O2X. that is meaning that this device has no updates/support at all.
[LG Optimus 2x] karthik1der:
Hey @tonyp, ask ricardo if its possible to use these drivers http://www.nvidia.com/content/devzone/linux-for-tegra.html

The other thread here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1808681 apparently has somewhat positive answers.
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
lol, this is what lg india have to say, can they really be less vague

Dear Customer,

Thanks for sharing your concern with us.

Detailed information regarding the ICS OS upgrade in India will be updated later.
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
ZTE Grand X..?
[LG Optimus 2x] skylinegt77:
are you sure of that? coz last time i checked there were hundreds of doubts bout that, some forums say its the same chipset, other say it isnt... plus, i was talking only about the models the other user mentioned, which were galaxy tab and galaxy r
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
For the millionth time no. Read the thread FFS.
[LG Optimus 2x] frantic777:
Rusty!, Can you please explain technical details? Why isn't possible to adopt these drivers? As far as I understand, even if android requires API different with linux, it is always possible to implement proxy/adapter.
[LG Optimus 2x] lolypop000:
Anybody see this on post in link

http://www.gsmarena.com/2011_xperia...no_ics_for_optimus_2x_and_black-news-4570.php

Update July 31: Sony are now backing off this statement and claim they are still to take decision on the matter.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
No.

Read the thread. Everything you want to know is there.
[LG Optimus 2x] darkshot:
Again this!!!! Forget Canada. Concentrate in Korea!!!!!!!!
[LG Optimus 2x] frantic777:
I don't see technical explanation in any thread. That's the reason to ask such technically experienced guy like you, who can authoritatively explain why it is impossible.
[LG Optimus 2x] bionemesis:
Guys, I don't know if anyone has read this, but LG Canada said NO to ICS ...

I couldn't help it. After taking the 15 god damn minutes to read through the entire thread ... the devil made me do it. :cool:
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
I also want to know why. I'm honestly fed up with simple no's without reasoning.
[LG Optimus 2x] ergoen:
The people working on ports do it in their free time, no point for them to waste that time on answering questions on forums. (Ricardo has actually posted here a couple of times, but noone really bothers to read it so he stopped).

Also what do you mean by technical explanation? It has been mentioned multiple times (by people who know things and by people who do not as well :P) that just because two different devices have tegra2 does not mean they share everything.

The devices we are compatible with are the other LG Star phones (P990, P999, SU660) and if I'm not mistaken to some extent (not in every way!) to the Motorola Atrix.

The drivers we're waiting for are binary things (not source code, we'll never get that) where some of the hardware details have been included. Therefore we can only use binaries which contain hardware details that match ours!

I know posting here only feeds the trolls, but well...
[LG Optimus 2x] frantic777:
Well, different drivers for camera, wifi, bt, etc does not care, we have them working at least in CM9. The question is why nv* modules cannot be adopted? If because different HAL API - it can be done by custom HAL adapter. I'm not experienced in linux/android development, but I'm pretty sure that it is possible to wrap any module with adapter.
[LG Optimus 2x] Justray:
Dudes chill, it will come out, later than sooner, and maybe by the time it comes out you will be able to buy a new phone...

Whatever the case if you want to LG to know how you feel let them know with your wallet. The only $$$ thing they really listen.

For me, I will give LG a second chance (their TVs are cheap and rock), but nvidia, hell NO! I'm a happy AMD user, I don't know why I thought nvidia would do things right in mobiles, because it sucks in notebooks.... maybe because it was tegra 2 and not tegra which was a beta... apparently so was tegra 2.
[LG Optimus 2x] ergoen:
Okay, maybe I shouldn't have used the word "driver", we obviously have most non-nvidia-devices working (like you said, wifi, bt). Not the camera though (only partially through a "wrapper"), have you tried recording a video with cm9?

I think you might have misunderstood what people mean when they say wrapper. Ricardo actually wrote a wrapper so that most of the hw acceleration in cm9 works (by translating some graphics-calls to their gingerbread equivalents). This way cm9 can use our old gingerbread binaries for most stuff.

Now follows some non-technical (bad abuse of terminology) stuff:

The binaries we're talking about are black boxes. You send them commands and they do all the talking to the relevant hardware. The reason we can use the gingerbread ones with a wrapper in cm9 alphas is because for many of the ics commands there are matching gingerbread ones. So we have a wrapper which android talks to which translates ics commands to gingerbread commands which our old binary can understand and apply to our hardware.

Using a binary for some other hardware is not possible because the wrappers we're speaking of are between android and the binary, not the binary and the hardware! So if the binary cannot speak with the hardware, it's worthless for us!

I don't want to discourage you from trying to hack stuff if you think it's doable though! ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
Yeah, and just about every mobile site is jumping on the bandwagon and implying that means no region will get it despite other regions being non-committal since the Canadian statement and lg Korea saying they are still testing.

I respond and say they are doing trash journalism.
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
Probably no one here is able to answer this here, I asked here several times what is the technical reason why we cannot use only drivers for "graphics card"(combined with CPU I know) - Tegra2. Possible reasons (at least from my very limited point of view):

1.Tegra2 drivers are combined with other drivers (camera, wifi, BT...) on source code level and compiled into one binary module.

2.Tegra2 drivers have to be modified on source code level for each device using Tegra2 because of other different HW.

I think there is more possible explanations.... where is the truth? I dont know, I'm not linux developer, I'm ABAP and C# person....

---------- Post added at 06:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:57 PM ----------

Hi, thanks for this comment. But I still do not understand one thing:

Tegra2 capabilities are the same. They do not change from GB to ICS (of cource, HW is the same). ICS have to use the SAME functionality of Tegra2 as GB. So the HW accelerated functions supported by Tegra2 chipset have to be same for GB and ICS. So what is the difference between GB and ICS driver calls? Is there any changelog from Google?
[LG Optimus 2x] ergoen:
Here is one of the commits with the wrapping:

https://gist.github.com/CyanogenMod...mmit/fc496c0607d0d2863ff9587019e890ab806ea49d

On some very low level, obviously ics cannot do anything with the gpu that gingerbread couldn't, however there seems to be some new commands which do slightly new things (I don't know much about this either, so please excuse me for not going into any specific details here). By the looks of it there are some new opengl-commands which are being worked around here (probably in a less efficient way?)

Obviously this workaround is only there for the android framework, not for the applications you install. So any application that assumes that your driver supports these commands will not work.
[LG Optimus 2x] loipol84:
Ouch....

Went to Atrix and Galaxy R threads and there is a lot of enthusiasm about those "drivers"...

I feel sorry for them when they realise the truth..
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
With all due respect, I'd like to see more post like this than the typical "ZOMG it has been posted a gazillion times! Plz read 10 pages back!!" ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] ergoen:
If these posts (which do actually not contain any new information :P) have bought peace for a couple of hours, I will consider myself successful ^^. I honestly think that the main problem here is the forum structure where old posts get buried by repeated questions and statements about the same things very fast. If there had been a well-maintained wiki somewhere... that would have been good.. One can dream.
[LG Optimus 2x] jamez.tankh:
samsung galaxy R is getting their ice cream next week...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=29632061&postcount=395
[LG Optimus 2x] Pascalwb:
next weekS
[LG Optimus 2x] jamez.tankh:
i din notice it's plural :silly::silly:
[LG Optimus 2x] darkshot:
We should fill the LG social networks of complaint asking for the ICS.
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
yeah, and burn LG offices and factories, and rape LG Phone division manager's women! :D
[LG Optimus 2x] bionemesis:
It's like Malcolm X used to say, if you can't get people to change, rape their women. Or something like that. I'm paraphrasing, of course.
[LG Optimus 2x] CasperHN:
No we should wait. This thread is riddiculous. The update will not arrive any faster because you spam customer help decks, you only bother people who have real problems with their phones by queing the phones or make LG spend more on customer-care and less on this update. They said they would do it but failed to do it within their own time-frame - if that comes as a surprice read the thread on Gingerbread updates before spamming this thread. Petitions, stalking employees on twitter whom you know know nothing etc will not help but only frustrate you until it arrives.

Cheer up and post posts when actual news about the ICS update is available.

Just my two cents.
[LG Optimus 2x] Eyekool:
I am afraid that it will not help, their facebook pages are already filled with customer quieries for ICS update for our O2X, they don't even bother to answer - but they do answer to almost all other quieries wich are not related to ISC update for O2X.
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
Heck I think I'm gonna stop reading the thread for a while.. Now every time I come i can only read " I found this driver nvidia can we use it?" or "hey zte grand X or huawie xxxxxxxxx has same tegra2 and ics can we port that?" or "Canada says o2x won't get ics".. FFS! FML D=.. The heck with it damn.. I'm beyond sick of that bullcrap
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
Thanks for info, it's very important message (stop reading) for us too.
[LG Optimus 2x] karthik1der:
And this post is more helpful/informative than the others? Pfff,people need to stop acting like this is their facebook wall or something.Everyone is just trying to help.An active thread means we get the latest news and info about the O2x ICS,even if it means the occasional reposting.I would rather prefer an active thread like this to a dead thread.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
It's still a dead thread if people don't even bother to read two pages back to see of their "news" is actually "olds". A thread in which people repeat the same stuff again and again without reading at all is not alive, it's a Zombie.
[LG Optimus 2x] :
I have a bad feeling that lg ICS will not release, however we continue to hope for the best.
[LG Optimus 2x] RknDroidFreak:
I dun even care anymore..I already feel O2x has already hit the rock bottom..the humiliation of first dual-core phone!!

Anyway, looks like there are lot of people here who advocate that we shouldn't bother LG people with our bull****s.....BUT

I think I'd rather let down my wrath on those people from LG n rape those skinny Korean broads and make their life hell with spams and complaints rather than pray for an update. At least that satisfys me to certain degree!! So, let the war begin!! Who's with me??
[LG Optimus 2x] darkshot:
I think which before, we should to ask to LG Korea about the update, if going to have or not? Because I believe which the update will released.
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
Ok, from what I see, LG outside of North America has neither confirmed nor denied the ICS statement from LG Canada.

There is still hope... perhaps we will get it in Q3 2012 after all.

For those unfamiliar, carriers in North America have a ridiculous amount of control over Android updates. American carriers don't even sell the P990/P999 any more. Only one Canadian carrier sells the P990 right now - the carrier that sold the P999 discontinued it long ago. Thus it's not surprising that the North American carriers won't want to push updates to an EOL product.

If the O2X gets the ICS update outside North America, then problem solved.
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
I'm with you and I have already started that and really enjoy making there Facebook look like hell bugging there customer service...and making a scenario around me that lg is the worst company never ever buy any of there products.....
[LG Optimus 2x] bliizzz:
Hope lg release it for some part on earth coz that's more than enough for devs!
[LG Optimus 2x] kornrullez:
Let's stick on cm7, it's fast as hell and stable
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Exactly we just need someone to port lg ui 3 out cm9 lockscreen and launcher to cm7.....we just don't need ics....also if possible the recent app ics view the slider one ....Hope some great Dev think of porting it
[LG Optimus 2x] kornrullez:
Yes that would be great
[LG Optimus 2x] Rayman96:
The slider one? From where?
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Cm9..? It's stick feature of ics I just hope somebody port it if possible? The one where you Swype the recent apps to close them or jump into them....
[LG Optimus 2x] wonderwalker:
Are you gonna be saying that when android 6 hits? Or 7?

Thats not a good mentality to have.
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
I reckon the issue will be the availability of apps and app updates. GB is well supported now but I don't think it will be too long until it isn't.
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
2 posts on the LG Facebook Page sound promising?

One claims that lg Norway have replied that ics will be in Q3 but gives no firm date.

The other claims lg Korea testing has passed and updates will begin August 11

Absolutely no sources or nothing official on these but it does seem promising.

I've asked the Korean poster for a source.
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
August 11 don't kid bro plz plz wee can't handle it any more

---------- Post added at 12:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:13 PM ----------

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/02/android_ics_august_2012/
[LG Optimus 2x] grognaz:
this really isnt funny anymore, and its not lg only its across all android handset manufacturers.