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[LG Optimus 2x] Tommmii:
So, on the one hand, LG claims they will be updating the O2X to ICS ;

on the other hand, LG has leaked its ICS dev (including kernel sources?) to our most capable developer, RC, who has promptly turned it into JB, but isn't allowed to publish it (yet).

Can any one create a likely scenario that would fit the above ?

The only thing I can come up with is that LG is planning on releasing JB instead of ICS.

But that sounds too good to be true, so there's gotta be some other explanation.

@ people in touch with RC : has he indicated that he has passed back information to LG after completing HW-accellerated CM10 ?
[LG Optimus 2x] everett_psycho:
If they invent the flux capacitor instead of releasing ics all is forgiven
[LG Optimus 2x] ime95mos:
It's not When, it's more like If...
[LG Optimus 2x] Jordan~Kurniawan:
well said..

i dont see any point other than increasing my post/yours in asking " when will LG release bla bla bla.." or "will RC bla bla bla" ...

we just need to wait..

because ricardo already done his side of the job..

just wait for LG to do theirs..

just stop crying like a baby ..

dont want to get bored with your O2X ?? Learn some android developing..

because i get enough from all this great developers (termasek,benee,kashmalaga,Stefan,tonyp and many others !!!)

pardon my bad english !!

HELLO from INDONESIA !
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Still not sure if my post was smart or not hehe. But I think most people here got it right, so thanks.

This is pure speculation on my side but I think LG holding back the update is indeed a strategic decision. The update is ready for quite some time now, RC got a version ages ago where the hardware specific implementation (new kernel etc) already was done. That's the hard part, fixing a couple LG software aspects doesn't take several month.

So maybe they really want to have JB on their new flagship devices first. Sucks but sounds reasonable.
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Ok maybe I'm wrong here but let's not forget that cyanogenmod is "the same" across all devices and *all that* RC has to do is port CM10 that already exists for many devices and port it over to P990 with the correct drivers and all. (Keep in mind I'm not saying it's easy... I'm just saying JB CM, or CM10, already exists.

On the other hand, it's not like LG has Jelly Bean with LG UI running for other devices... so their work right now is port ICS with LG UI to "all" their devices. I'm sure that if they had a device with JB and LG UI running on it they would be "porting" JB to our device and not ICS.

Does that make any sense?
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
LG has released ICS for other "past generation" phones already. Alienating existing customers, especially like us who publicly express our outrage, is not a smart marketing strategy. Continuous spam against LG by Optimus 2X and G2X owners on the LG Facebook site can't be doing any good for LG sales of its cell phones. We have to keep up the pressure, regardless of whether or not LG cares, to ensure that as many potential purchasers of LG products are forewarned about LG's BS.
[LG Optimus 2x] Tommmii:
agreed that "cm is the same across all devices" but then also JB is the same across all LG devices. The drivers change but not the OS.

Also, the ICS drivers are same for ICS and JB, or so has been said on here about a zillion posts ago.

Plus, LG surely are toying with JB in some R&D department...hmm well, perhaps not.:silly:
[LG Optimus 2x] Jordan~Kurniawan:
we all love our O2X ..

even RC said that 4" dualcore is cool :cool:

come on guys , just dont start a war because of a mobile phone ..

i love to see CM9/CM10 working properly (now its just missing the HWA)

but dont need say anything bad just because of that ..

we do want our beloved O2X community to be here as long as it can...

so dont start flaming ..

i think the one who started the flame are just plain noobs..
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
It ain't that easy. Each device is different and has idiosyncracies which require custom solutions which take time and effort of which some, like NVIDIA SOC equipped phones, take more than others. Don't trivialize developers/programmers efforts.
[LG Optimus 2x] LarsPT:
Yes but does LG have any device running JB already? CM10 already exists for loads of devices... for me that's the key difference...

---------- Post added at 02:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:14 PM ----------

That's why I put what I said between stars and in italic... I'm a developer myself per profession, so I would never trivialize our efforts.
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
Wow, how can they be so stupid at LG and not understand that their strategic decision zeroes any kind of possibility that O2X users (and many other people too due to the spamming we have done to LG) will ever buy another LG device. If they would have, lets say, released the update in the middle of Q3 (I believe it was ready by then) then users might think about another LG device but now, a big fat NO.
[LG Optimus 2x] ShunSeb47:
Can't wait for your CM10 paranoid build with HWA =D

Sent From My Paranoid P990
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
*lol* Yay!!
[LG Optimus 2x] Sknit:
Absolutly agree with this. But glad to hear some very good news, 10 pages above.

After reading this http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...roject-butter-how-it-works-and-what-it-added/ , I have a better understanding of how butter project works, but I haven't understand if the hardware acceleration is enough. The hardware acceleration is link to GPU, and probably link to CPU too. The project butter need something special ? or it is a "software" solution ? or it's need something else (I'm mean HAL or an other stuff).

If someone have a link about this topic I'm interesting.

And if well-informed people have informations about the o2x butter project integration -SU660 owner maybe-, I'll glad to read that too.

Still waiting with one of the last CM7.2 nightly, but no for long !
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
This does only sound reasonable in the context of corporate BS.
[LG Optimus 2x] EX LG user:
Hey!

Sell your o2x for 180,00€ and buy a Xiaomi Like I did :)
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
180€ If you can sell mine for that, I'll give you a commission!
[LG Optimus 2x] vanmarek:
You can buy a new O2X for *roughly* that money. So why would anyone want to buy a used one for the *roughly* same price?
[LG Optimus 2x] karthik1der:
If it was indeed a strategic decision, then why in the world would they release ICS for Optimus Black? I think we humans cannot reach LG's level of intelligence.
[LG Optimus 2x] rjjcvb:
269.90€

http://www.phonehouse.pt/DetalheProduto.aspx?pid=2418
[LG Optimus 2x] Zorkman:
you should have written in the biggest font available, bold and red that people should not contact RC about this
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
No Sh*t!
[LG Optimus 2x] Micronuub:
Why is it that this thread increases with 50 pages per day don't you people have something better to do than complain lol.
[LG Optimus 2x] rmein:
At this stage in the update cycle, LG are probably just waiting for an OK from the carriers which unfortunately does take a couple of months. The test roms will have been made available for that purpose. Considering all the troubles people have in finding the best BB and RIL for this phone you can understand why the carriers will be a bit suspicious of a new LG version.
[LG Optimus 2x] redmonke255:
This thread is a great reminder that it's not only Americans that complain about everything.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
The REALLY funny thing is that complaining about complainers makes you a meta complainer. :D

Epic win!
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
Like you?
[LG Optimus 2x] petr.klos:
And you are meta-meta-complainer?

What it makes of one replying to me?

On factual note... Well, lesson learend with LG....613 pages of year and half waiting..... :D
[LG Optimus 2x] scalle288:
Hey TonyP,

Maybe it's a good idea to ask RC for a youtube video of CM10 working on our 2X. Just for us to see how great the result of his work is. :fingers-crossed:
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
He can't do that as per LG's restrictions on him.
[LG Optimus 2x] scalle288:
Why not? He's not giving us CM10? Just giving us a taste of it
[LG Optimus 2x] xp99:
http://sadtrombone.com/
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
This gets recursive, if we are not careful. We might get stuck in an infinite loop. :D
[LG Optimus 2x] MMarkkk:
relax

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_2Fp8wYKl8&feature=related
[LG Optimus 2x] dark_sat:
And everybody knows what 1 Infinite Loop means, right?
[LG Optimus 2x] darkpheonix69:
Endless eight ?
[LG Optimus 2x] andrewk2x:
Can you imagine LG release jb for 2x instead of ics?I think is impossible but RC have a cm10 work perfect for ages if it is true all that..
[LG Optimus 2x] langdawg:
Oh god please don't ban him. His posts have been the least painful in this thread to date.
[LG Optimus 2x] dark_sat:
Noooo! Take a look on Google.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
^Giving Google a C is hilarious. Together with the strange reasoning.

Sounds like he has one of the devices and is frustrated lol
[LG Optimus 2x] Icecoldmeat:
An ice cream sandwich is a frozen confection composed of a layer of ice cream sandwiched between two biscuits/cookies or slices of cake.
[LG Optimus 2x] redmonke255:
Not a complaint, but rather an observational phenomenon.

Sent from my paranoid Nexus 7.
[LG Optimus 2x] galaxyfitankit:
Agreed bro.....:))
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
It's the Apple headquarter.
[LG Optimus 2x] mike the mighty viking:
Tony!!!!!

Are you not on holiday???

Already suffering withdrawal symtoms, not a good sign. You need to go and find a good woman, but please dont ask her: "Would you like to come up to my room and hear about how I can modify your phone."

But seriously, thank you for the heads up, I think all of us with at least a little bit of good sense can understand Ricardos dilemma. But just knowing it is out there is nice.

And now you go do some holidaying!!
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Sort of considering moving to the huawei g300 lol it has ICS and its quick and responsive, this waiting game is getting pathetic come december im getting a xiaomi m2 if i can get my hands on one.

Playing around with my friend huawei g300 atm and im pretty pist about this, also argued with lg support like why they have support that has no information at all.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
I'm sitting here at the hotel lobby next to my girlfriend, following the Championsleague matches and surfing around a little on my Nexus 7.

But thanks for your concern ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] korgndm:
Then I suggest that you dont watch Benfica vs Barcelona ...its boring the crap out of me...
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
Who are you supporting Tony :P?
[LG Optimus 2x] emanuele95:
Tony do you know a release date? Thank you
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
If you mean CM10 then some time from now until SU660 kernel source drops
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
Watched a bit of Donetsk vs Juventus. The start of the match was quite interesting, both sides had their chances :D
[LG Optimus 2x] MetaIIica:
i look Championsleague too, Bate Borisov vs Bavarian Munich and phone with my girlfriend simultanly^^ I dont hope Munich loose^^ phone with my Girlfriend is better than football while Munich has a residue of one Goal, no i dont say what we say xD

Hope the Korean give us German to our Day of german Unity ICS as Present :D
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Today I don't really care, tomorrow the Black yellow Germany champion :p

Wednesday.
[LG Optimus 2x] MetaIIica:
Tony you support Doofmund??

:D
[LG Optimus 2x] Shadowchaz:
What, Wednesday this year? !? :D
[LG Optimus 2x] vanmarek:
Release of what? Which wednesday? 12th december 2012? :confused:
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
Did you think of Borussia Dortmund tony?
[LG Optimus 2x] andy010101:
troll?
[LG Optimus 2x] pukidukie:
He means the Black beast, the FC Bayern...

Gesendet von meinem Optimus 2X mit Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 2x] MetaIIica:
Bayern plays today, not tomorrow
[LG Optimus 2x] wucinac:
when FC Bayern wins we will get ICS:D:laugh:
[LG Optimus 2x] ssuds:
Two Weeks.
[LG Optimus 2x] davibs:
Source??
[LG Optimus 2x] MetaIIica:
its only speculation^^
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
22 or 23 october i ve read somewhere..
[LG Optimus 2x] wapz:
Q2 2012.
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
well, even with Ricardo's ROM already finished, I've decided that if LG doesn't release sources by the end of this month, I will just buy a new handset! And then sell my O2X with the CM10 ROM flashed on as advertising ICS makes it more attractive.

In fact, now that I'm back to my DZ for the time being, I'm suddenly re-appreciating my physical keyboard - something I would only give up for superior specs and software (hence why I bought the O2X rather than say a Nexus S which didn't feel like a real upgrade). And like I said before HTC never promised ICS for my DZ, nor did they even market it as a high-end phone, so I don't feel "stiffed" on my DZ whereas the O2X feels like a huge betrayal. And while my O2X would get at least one force-closed app every week or two, my DZ could last for months before such a thing happened. Hell, to get some real stability on my O2X I had to go through the additional steps of figuring out how to flash on a new kernel (Etana) after installing CM - whereas my DZ was fine and dandy immediately after a CM installation.

ah crap, I think I've ranted on too much about how my DZ is better than my O2X in some ways.

back on topic: Tonyp, you going to continue work on your ParanoidAndroid ROM after Ricardo releases CM10? I've heard good things about it and if you manage to integrate the necessary binaries I will definitely try it out at least.
[LG Optimus 2x] aldyu:
Seems not reliable, no kdz yet in otacheck...
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
otacheck isn't reliable either. It's unable to detect beta kdzs that Stefan's php-based leaker stil detects (last update sept 26).

But neither is the German site...argh this just increases anxiety.
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
sources will be :

www.sevencolourgossips.wordpress.com and www.phonesreview.co.uk

but i don't found nothing...maybe is not true:confused:
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
Yeah I checked those sites too and uncovered nothing. It's possible the German site may have been confused by last month's reports of the beta kdzs for the SU660.

Btw, I like how you own TWO of these criticized-for-bad-support LG phones :)
[LG Optimus 2x] -Zeppelin-:
Mmh, i find nothing on any site...

So either they mixed up with the betas or know sonething we don't...

sent from my mobile device
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
Maybe I am just lucky!:eek: :D

Inviato con Lg P920 powered by LG sucks:mad:
[LG Optimus 2x] Kashamalaga:
Sure, its time to follow a kid blog as source :highfive:
[LG Optimus 2x] -Zeppelin-:
LG made us this desperate, we cling on anything ;)

sent from my mobile device
[LG Optimus 2x] lolypop000:
Anybody try with lg update tool if ICS is available?
[LG Optimus 2x] daas88:
Quoting a reaper, from mass effect:

"You cannot grasp the nature of our existence. I am beyond your comprehension"

That's why we can't make sense of their decisions.

LG optimus 2x, rom Gueste Hybrid 3.7
[LG Optimus 2x] andrewk2x:
All of us have custom rom!!
[LG Optimus 2x] machoman1337:
this. Even if we went back to stock, i doubt the updater would show ICS for non-SU660 models. And for carrier-locked North American models, fat chance.
[LG Optimus 2x] aldyu:
I received confirmation that they are mostly in holiday this week.. So probably nothing this week.
[LG Optimus 2x] speedyranger:
I see photo, seems to be a kid :rolleyes:

Inviato con Lg P920 powered by LG sucks:mad:
[LG Optimus 2x] scalle288:
and yet another day withour ICS :crying:
[LG Optimus 2x] scalle288:
Hmm, maybe there is news today

:fingers-crossed:
[LG Optimus 2x] atlac:
I have checked here in INDIA from LG update tool. it is still in V20i. wait continues........
[LG Optimus 2x] TheBlackCat:
It's possible to have that message translated in english?
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
the LG support tool have a new message.. now its "Your phone already has the latest version of software, so there needs to be updated."

:/
[LG Optimus 2x] kingvortex:
Google translate says - "Tomorrow we meet our friends in the press and blogs to count the initiatives that we are launching."
[LG Optimus 2x] TheBlackCat:
Ahh... probably they will promote some new phone. I don't think that press is interested at ICS on P990. :(
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Yeah, they don't do press conferences to announce OTA updates.
[LG Optimus 2x] AlkaliX:
Yes you are right but they can do this for cancel the ICS update.
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
Maby they are about to appologize? Maby offer all Optimus users that they have lied to a brand new phone?

Or maby they are about to perform hara-kiri live?

Nah... More probable is that they will say that ICS update for Optimus is canceled
[LG Optimus 2x] Marty_van_der_Kriton:
No. They are announcing some energy efficient products and lightbulbs. Find #EncuentroLG on twitter.
[LG Optimus 2x] IRASadPanda:
True, but have you ever seen LG's coding? Full of hacks, and most things are not working correctly.
[LG Optimus 2x] darka9:
So does this method of fixing camera compromise the quality of the pictures?
[LG Optimus 2x] wkpark:
software conversion is needed only for Previewing. it does not affect the quality of pictures.
[LG Optimus 2x] droweed:
this doesn't seem to be the case on my DHD, so I don't think it will be the same on o2x, but yeah, if they can optimize it more, fix more stuff, then that would be much appreciated :D,

but lets just hope it wont be the same case as the g2x ics thread, where people complain whine, and ignite flames, if ever they release an ics rom
[LG Optimus 2x] IRASadPanda:
Yep, because the G2x is a carrier vanilla android phone (and mainly a US release) people don't try and see how they can help, they just complain; which is why T-Mobile eoled the G2x >:|.
[LG Optimus 2x] Zorkman:
That is basically what I was trying to say.

That is why I proposed that it might be worth it if you, or any other real dev, were to be interested in drafting something. Polite and to the point, specifying what the developers would ideally want to be able to do their thing.

There would be nothing wrong with people sending that e-mail imho.
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Hey! How comes are you speaking for Benee or Kiljacken? It has been said they might release early build when audio work fine and that`s what I`m waiting for (and probably many many others). Don`t need to be so negative..
[LG Optimus 2x] kiljacken:
Crytic is constantly in contact with us,so he should know
[LG Optimus 2x] :
It means you wont release it as he said? Just to make things clear from you.. Cheers
[LG Optimus 2x] lipisak:
C'mon guys, with all the respect to devs, I know what would happen if they released their "alpha" version. At first all would be amazed, but later everyone would complain about all the half-done stuff. And don't try to tell me that it isn't true.

Sooner or later rveryone would return to their GB releases, which is almost debuged and 100% working.

Let's these awsome guys do their jobs. No dev wants to release half-done job. I guess that these guys gained great experience and they will use it as soon as the leaked version of official ICS for LG will be available.

This post isn't aimed against you devs, you've made incredible progress in few last days.

Best.

J.
[LG Optimus 2x] baen:
No they wont. And please, explain me why would you want a release like this? You can't watch movies right in it, any application which uses HW acceleration (games and new applications for 4.0) have major problems running.

Be patience it. Lets just hope someone at LG releases a beta version of an ICS rom :P
[LG Optimus 2x] :
Since you want the explanation:

I use my phone only to stay in touch (calls, sms, etc) and occasionally browsing the web during the day. Sometimes I take random snap with camera but could live without it very happy.

I do not watch any movies on my phone or play any games. Don`t even listen to any music since I drive to work. I don`t do any video recording. So I would be extremely happy to use it. Hope it`s now clear to you.. ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] el_charlie:
Then, respectfully I say, go buy an iPhone 2G or another non-smartphone. You're not using a 300-ish dollar dualcore smartphone for what is supposed to do. It's your money and I respect that.

The O2x is a smartphone and it should do almost everything. The devs won't release something unstable for some people who will complain a lot.

They have people that will test their progress so we don't have to until something good is developed.

If you want performance and stability, current CM7 is very good over stock ROM.

Just my 2 cents.
[LG Optimus 2x] DentTette:
Then I hope it is clear that a release to the masses is somewhat problematic in terms of bugs. There are a lot of obvious bugs still in the code. And Until those are resolved, a release would only yield a massive amount of people filing bugs about things we already know. We have to target all the use cases and we understand that a few of you guys don't use some of the features.

A release will come in time, when the ROM is suitable for mass release in our eyes.

Thanks for understanding
[LG Optimus 2x] ironman159:
Personally I can understand how the devs feel now, but this bug reporting thing that you are complaining about can be easily done by releasing the Alpha rom, starting a new thread and forbidding posts. It should be like as the thread at the G2X.

Don't misunderstand me I don't want the devs to publish the rom. They feel when it is meant to be released.

As for the awesome work that you have done Aremcee, Benee, Marsgod, kiljacken and the others THANK YOU!
[LG Optimus 2x] liuhuiweida:
Now all are good, why not post????WHY?
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
If they had no intention of making any form of release before lg released their stuff they wouldn't have gone through the trouble of adding a load of hacks to make the ui usable or all the other crap they have done in order to make the rom work if they just intended to wait for lgs release.....stupid post why don't you leave those kinds of posts to the people who are actually making the rom.

Even if this were the case altho i seriously doubt lgs release is coming anytime soon certainly not in weeks, i and many others would choose to use an optimized lg release that just works rather than a Frankenstein rom making the devs work a waste.
[LG Optimus 2x] Imperticus:
The best bet is if the devs get hardware acceleration to work properly, then we will see a release. (Although I admit its a fairly big if). Without that the ROM will have a lot of unusuable features.
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Yep, i would not choose to switch from gingerbread without real hw acceleration so hopefully they can get this working some how.
[LG Optimus 2x] kurtxcobain:
They won't cancel the ICS update for our phones... RC has working cm10 for our phone so the drivers are there. They will release the update, sooner or later, because the job is already done.
[LG Optimus 2x] TheBlackCat:
I hope that this happens soon, because soon we run out of things to write. :laugh:

And I hope that the update will be stable and reliable.
[LG Optimus 2x] donnelldouglas:
The only thing we should do is to be patient. we will get it soon... just wait
[LG Optimus 2x] Wimz3n:
That is no proof. It's LG we are talking about. They have delayed it for too long and maby want to sell new phones instead. But Google.com gives 18000+ hits för "no more lg". Bet we wont see this brand forward long.
[LG Optimus 2x] Sörnäinen:
Oh yes. Soon. Very soon. In a timely manner. Just have patience. :D
[LG Optimus 2x] Timbo925:
Had to post it ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] zomer86:
I'm getting the following error when I press the update button: "ICS...never"
[LG Optimus 2x] Zorkman:
of course not,

I'm going straight to RC's JB
[LG Optimus 2x] Thief777:
When the release of source code U660, I want to break his P990 - he is so slow (((
[LG Optimus 2x] vanmarek:
Hahahhahahahha I lol'd.
[LG Optimus 2x] Geordi2k9:
I think this will never happen :D

The only thing we could do now is... waiting. Although my hope flew away before a few days, the post of tony give me a new spark of hope. But just a little. Jelly Bean on the 2x would be unbelievable.