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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
So... as usual, I've been throttled, nothing works. Throttled this morning (confirmed by the usual ridiculously slow loading web-browsing/facebook/etc. About an hour ago I paid my phone bill, which is due on the 23rd (cycle resets on the 3rd). Upon doing some more web browsing and facebooking on my phone, I noticed that my phone seemed much faster at loading things. I thought I was imagining it, so I loaded up NHL Gamecenter Live and started up the live video feed of a hockey game (which would only be possible unthrottled, no way .1 Mb down can get a live video feed without skipping/buffering/basically being un-watchable. Imagine my surprise when the video stream loaded up right away. Curiously, I went onto speedtest.. and noticed... HSPA+ speeds. I'm on the pta APN with the LTE/HSPA/GSM network mode selected. The LTE symbol is not under the 4G symbol, even though it normally is under these settings as I'm in a LTE area. Further troubleshooting, I try both the Phone and WAP APNs, but both those remain throttled. I switch back to the pta APN and back to the LTE/HSPA/GSM network mode, and I'm back to HSPA speeds again.

The hell? I don't know what to think anymore. I want to say it's a coincidence, but the fact is, is minutes after paying my bill, all of a sudden I'm at HSPA speeds even though I'm still supposed to be throttled until the 3rd. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I attempted the IMEI trick and my plans are jumbled about with end and start dates etc, and paying a bill seemed to reset something in the system. Either way, I'm not ****in resetting my phone again until the 3rd, and hopefully I can hold onto this HSPA speed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/249952/atandt_wireless_bandwidth_throttling_the_backlash_has_begun.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Tankmetal:
Confirmed that this works.

I'm using a Samsung captivate with team hacksung's cm9 port, alpha build 16.

It switched over immediately to normal bandwidth. I am a happy camper.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
wow..less than a week after being throttled at 2gb...I am mysteriously no longer throttled.

There may be something to calling in and complaining to tier 2 support after all.

currently at 8 gb btw
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
That's what I've been sayin' CALL N CALL N CALL, n you get the idea:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I think AT&T might be feeling the heat..they've been getting a lot of bad press over this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] alude904:
Can anyone who has att tell me their settings for use with this radio? I see the original post says to use those settings and keep everything else default but I don't know what default is and those settings don't really seem like they fit into my apn slots.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
Also mysteriously unthrottled, after being throttled on the first day (1.5GB) of my billing cycle. Still 10 days left until my new cycle, but again, unthrottled, full LTE speeds. Not sure what's going on. The only time I ever called was on that first day that I was throttled, and only the first tier guy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] privatewarrior1:
Can we say that att gave up on throttling?

if so I hope no one abuse the network as we don't want them to come up with new plans and methods for throttling.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] maxjivi05:
AT&T has changed their throttling policy which this is what you are seeing. You are now to be throttled based off last months usage & only in areas where the network is congested.

sent from AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note Dual Core 1.83 GHz
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
nice! I used 80gb last month so I should be good?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
Well if I understand that correctly that sucks. I did about 18GB last month out of anger (I average between 4-8 GB a month) using the HSPA bypass, which no longer works for me. Does that mean when the cycle resets for me on the 3rd, they are going to be like "whoah you used 18GB last month, therefore, even though it's the first day of your cycle, we are going to throttle you"?!?!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] maxjivi05:
No clue, it's just what has been stated from upper AT&T on press released news... AT&T hasn't updated the employees inside search engine with that info, I believe due to all the harsh stuff on the news very bad PR they are changing it.

Data Throttle should be similar to Verizon's if you used 18GB last month and you are in a congested area / tower you will be throttled to slower speeds.

Now when it's not congested you should be okay...

Now keep in mind I didn't read this from AT&T inside info it was on a press release somewhere if you Google it you should come across something.

sent from AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note Dual Core 1.83 GHz
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] privatewarrior1:
can more people confirm this. I haven't been throttled yet but I'm at around 1 gb.

if so we customers should still regulate our usage to stop at&t from thinking about something else to implement or about raising the prices.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
I was told sunday that it would now be based off of prior month
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
Sh&^%% prior month I did around 50GB out of anger:p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] privatewarrior1:
hopefully they'll implement vz policy. it seems more humane.

cutting one's speed for the rest of the billing cycle is just cruel and unusual punishment.

yet the 64,000 dollars question now is how r they going to execute this. will u be thtottled on day 1.

being throttled once a day when demand is high still beats their original policy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JxWayne89:
Weird... Im suddenly throttled. Im at 9 gigs...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jbecerril:
So far I am a little over 12 GB and AT&T hasn't throttled me yet. I am on the ATT PTA APN and always using LTE. So it looks like AT&T is going to start throttling you past your last month usage. By the way, I live in Plano, TX. (Dallas suburb). I will keep you updated as soon as they throttle me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
this lawsuit att losing might have something to do with change of heart.. if even a fraction of the people sued they would be in big trouble
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JxWayne89:
Okay wtf.. I was throttled at 9 gigs. Now at around 9.5 Im suddenly UNthrottled?. not complaining but damn. I'm one confused young man at this point.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WIZARDfan:
Read this article. We should all individual do this against at&T's meaningless policy.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mickeym...this-two-big-consumer-small-claims-victories/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WIZARDfan:
Here is the main article

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4652014...dgets/t/iphone-user-wins-att-throttling-case/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
850 per person is like 800x what we would ever get in a class action. Att is scared for the first time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
the person that won should post all the docs they used to win.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] privatewarrior1:
maybe we should all file in the same county and ask for the same judge. :D

then probably would just decide to remove all of its towers from that county

---------- Post added at 11:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 PM ----------

in all seriousness I am truly debating whether I should sue the bastards or remain the good customer they always call me when we finish the phone call.:o
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] maxjivi05:
They do that to everyone and now its via email

sent from AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note Dual Core 1.83 GHz
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
http://www.mactech.com/2012/02/27/how-fight-att-data-throttling-small-claims-action

This is a "how to" if you want to sue AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
11gb and still not "re" throttled. We will see how next month goes
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
Since ATT started unthrottling everyone despite usage, presumably due to bad press and the new throttling parameters, has anyone had their billing cycle reset and then been throttled shortly after? Anyone have their billing cycle reset and no throttling at all yet?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/01/...ttling-changes-now-kicks-in-at-3gb-or-5gb-fo/

Looks like AT&T caved..slightly
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dvandam:
ARGH! Beat me!!:mad:

Actually this is rather welcome news. Nice to know I won't be throttled at random values..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
At least its a start...now we know officially what the throttle targets are instead of playing a guessing game. Now I know to switch APNs and 4.9 gbs :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
yeah, but will switching apn will work anymore?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Never stopped working for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
When they say they will throttle us LTE users at 5GB, does that mean they are going back to the 2G edge speeds for the rest of the billing cycle, making our phones once again unusable, or is it going to be more of a Verizon type of throttling where it's only if it's during a certain peak-usage time on a congested tower, and even then it's down to 3G speeds?

If it's the latter, I am pleased. 5GB of LTE and then HSPA+ for anything over is fine by me. I must point out that non of the APN bypass things work for me at all anymore, so if after 5GB I'm on HSPA+, well, HSPA+ is still plenty fast for me.

If it's the former, however, then I'll still be just as disappointed. Actually pissed and outraged. Going from 2GB to 5GB to start throttling really is not much of an improvement to me, since if I wanted to, at these insane LTE speeds they are giving me in San Francisco (maxed out around 50Mbs down), I could download 5GB in about 15 minutes on LTE speeds. So hypothetically once my billing cycle reset, if after 15 minutes of heavy LTE usage I was then throttled to EDGE speeds for the rest of the month, I'll be pissed.

So yeah, anyone know? Are they still going to throttle at EDGE speeds for the remainder of the month regardless of peak times/congested towers/etc? If so, then this new 5GB LTE cap is still complete and utter bull****, just like 2GB was. But if it's NOT EDGE speeds, and not necessarily all the time until the next billing cycle, then it's welcomed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
I'd love for the throttle to be hspa + but to be honest I don't think I'll ever find out. 5GB is pretty reasonable if you ask me. I'm a happy clam.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
It's not reasonable on LTE. My point I'm making here is that on LTE you can download 5GB in 15 minutes. If there are 43200 minutes in a billing cycle and I'm throttled for 43185 of them every month at EDGE speeds then I'm pissed. Yes, not everyone downloads 5GB at LTE speeds at the start of every billing cycle, but it's not unrealistic, either. While on paper, going from 2GB to a 5GB throttle cap seems nice as they are more than doubling it, it's still a slap in the face to me, on LTE speeds.

This analogy is far from perfect, but I feel like it'd be like feeding an entire starving African village with one gourmet pizza per month, even though it's not enough and they clearly want and can eat much more. So they start feeding them 2.5 pizzas and all of a sudden people are applauding them for more than double the pizzas. But don't lose sight of the fact that it takes like 50 pizzas to feed this tribe. Ok /endstrangeanalogy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
To be honest, I disagree. Those people are probably tethering and carriers have portable internet alternatives for that. You agreed to use that data for you phone, and to be honest even if u stream a couple movies over the course of the month u shouldn't go over. Now do I agree with the outrageous terms of the contracts we sign? No, that's a different matter. But u signed it, so either fight to change it or live with it, but don't go over every month and merely complain, this does nothing to change the situation
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
If someone signs up for an unlimited data plan, there is a reasonable expectation that they could be able to watch a limitless amount of streaming movies if they wanted to, not a couple over the course of a month. Unlimited should be unlimited, period.

Actually, people did complain, and the situation did change.

And in the end, going from 2GB to 5GB still changes nothing about ATT's bull****. They claim they throttle unlimited users to protect their bandwidth from being harmed and congested, by throttling over 5GB of usage. If they really cared about protecting their network, then they'd throttle tiered data users after 5GB too, because apparently over 5GB is what's deemed harmful. But no, they don't throttle tiered users over 5GB, they just charge them more. Because this is about making more money, not protecting their network. They will happily let a tiered user go over 5GB without throttling them and let them "abuse and strain" their network as long as they get paid.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
This is such a tired stance. AT&T is greedy yes, but that doesn't mean there aren't technological limitations like they are claiming. There is only so much spectrum.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
And for the record I'm not praising AT&T. Just saying 5 GB is plenty for my needs.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
Sure there are technological limits. But if the network is close to getting strained around 5GB, then shouldn't they throttle everyone? No, they'll let you strain that network all you want unthrottled if you pay more.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
Agreed. Its akin to saying because a small food stand in the mall has free samples, you can walk up and take the whole 3 plates on display, because its free. I'm not saying AT&T isn't overcharging, I'm with Rogers and I think 6gb for $30 is high, but doesn't mean u should be using 40 or even 20 gigs per month. There is no way your doing that with your phone alone, you must be tethering
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
I'm not using 20 gigs a month. I did 18GB once out of anger like everyone else did by trying to push up the 5%, but my normal usage is around 4-6GB. That's cutting it real close. I don't want to be near the end of a billing cycle and then worry about usage and not watch that one hockey game or not watch a couple youtube cliips or stream some songs because I might be worried of getting to the limit. You guys sound like ATT reps, being all excited by this 5GB like all of a sudden ATT is our friend. I'm shocked it was that easy to get people from being pissed off to being very content with the same company. There should be more mad people. Sure, I'll admit I'm glad it's a small baby step in the right direction, but there's a long way to go to make long time loyal customers happy.

Does anyone know what exactly happens once the LTE user hits 5GB? Is it back to EDGE for the remainder of the cycle, or is there slightly higher throttle speeds as some people have claimed?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] RipplingHurst:
What people has to realiza is that LTE is tough on bandwidth.

I did some testing on my 8.9 LTE. I put the iPad 3G's SIM card in it, and player some YouTube videos, using 3G and 4G LTE. Youtube set to play in HD.

The video quality difference with LTE is staggering. Same video, same place. Same tablet, only different service. You could really tell the detail, the hair, the fabric, in that tiny screen. It sounded clearer.

I bet one video wasted <50MB under 3G (@4kbps), but it was close if not more than 300MB when LTE (@25kbps) was detected. One 5 min song! (Calculations made with att data reports, hard to know how accurate they are in real time...)

Same thing happens with VevoHD, music videos. Its like they adapt quickly to your speed, so they can get rid of you, quickly out of their queue.

There's not much you can do about it with LTE. 5GB is ridiculously small. I use my tablet to stream videos in the treadmill at the gym. In 40min, 5GB will be long gone. Is that reasonable? Same usage as before, I haven't changed, websites are pushing data like crazy, times have changed. ATT could charge them, not us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
Believe me, I'm all for more bandwidth for the consumer but I also realize they have to reign it in at some level. Is 5 GB reasonable? I don't know but it is better than 2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] NativeTxn:
Yes, spectrum is limited. But as I've been saying for a while (and is basically what ManIMCool is saying), if it is really about bandwidth and protecting spectrum, etc. then everyone (tiered or unlimited) should be throttled at the same level (whether that is 2 GB, 5 GB, 10 GB, or whatever level).

However, it is obvious that AT&T would let someone on a 3 GB tiered plan happily use 20 GB during a billing cycle without ever being throttled, and AT&T would happily charge them $170 extra that period.

The problem is that that extra $10 per GB of extra data over 3 GB does not somehow magically create extra spectrum or bandwidth or make their data use less taxing on the network than someone using those extra 17 GBs on an unlimited plan. Each GB of data use "taxes" the spectrum the same whether it is on a tiered plan or unlimited. If, as they claim, they are only throttling people because of spectrum and bandwidth protection concerns, then ALL users should be treated equally from a throttling standpoint.

But, we all know that their main concern/priority is/was to get as many people on unlimited plans to switch to tiered so that they can make more money, which is why tiered users are not subject to throttling.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
This is probably true, but on tiered plans they can "tax" them for this extra use and try to prevent then from doing it. $10 per extra gig sounds like discouragement to me. On unlimited plans this isn't applicable, so they throttle instead.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
QFT QFT QFT QFT QFT QFT QFT

We're kind of saying the same thing, but not really. Don't think for a second that they "tax" $10/extra GB as a preventative measure. They don't care about their spectrum. I know there is a finite amount of spectrum, but all of their actions seem to dictate that there is plenty of it based on the current # of users, even if they all had unlimited plans. They aren't trying to discourage users to stop at the tiered GB limits. They will be more than happy to let you use more than your allocated amount of GB, unthrottled, every single time, as long as they charge you. This has been and always has been about making more money and trying to force loyal customers off of their grandfathered unlimited plans.

The terrible thing is, is that

#1 increasing this throttle cap from 2GB to 5GB (of the top 5% of users) means nothing in the grand scheme of their total capacity/spectrum, it's like a drop in their ocean being increased to 2.5 drops in their ocean, it doesn't make a difference to them, but....

#2 increasing the throttle cap from 2GB to 5GB has tricked a lot of loyal users into thinking that they all of a sudden care, and that they don't care about making the maximum amount of $, and that 5GB per month on their SPEEDY LTE network, is completely reasonable.

If you're an unlimited LTE user, and think this new policy is reasonable, I feel bad for someone so delusional.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
This is why i have been saying that all of us on unlimited plans should use 30GB or more a month, raise that stupid 5% cap, but some people say that is too much, i say if it is unlimited who cares
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I've been trying. I was able to get 27gigs a month ago.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
If I actually thought the 5% was being calculated I might agree with you but I feel like the 5% concept is a ruse and these thresholds are just arbitrarily selected.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
keep up the usage:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
It wont do any good now. They are using a hard cap of 5gb
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ManImCool:
And then? How are we throttled? EDGE speeds? 3G? For the rest of the month?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] sifulee:
This fix doesn't seem to work anymore more with the new ucla3 modem :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
If they are blocking LTE users on the hspa network also chances are tricks won't work anymore :(

before they we blocking us only on the LTE network so we could switch..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] sumeet909:
Hamm need to research this U Verse thing?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] milan03:
You have no idea now easy is on to go through 5GB on an LTE network. I can literally do it in 1-2days on my Verizon LTE phone. I got my Skyrocket so I can enjoy the rich media on the go, but I'm only on HSPA+ here in NYC. But if AT&T continues to throttle, I'm returning it before the end of the month and ordering Galaxy Nexus from the UK, and enjoying the HSPA+ radio... This makes absolutely NO SENSE!

I average 50GB on my Verizon LTE phone, and went as high as 90GB. No warnings nada. Verizon actually want you to use their LTE and offload congested 3G network.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mauricers:
I think im returning mine tomorrow. Got that SMS saying im at the 5% bla bla... probably going back to iphone and getting the 4s. Limited high speed data, low battery performance and hating all android keyboards...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cavemaneca:
Might want to rethink getting a 4S if that's one of your main concerns.