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[LG Optimus 2x] marsgod:
I think as a developer, we need the kernel source from LG, most likely is 3.0.x kernel. This kernel will based on a new device tree. In 2.6.32, you need nvodm, but in 3.0.x, you will not need the nvodm. I checked several tegra 2 device's kernel source, and found this. I think LG has tech difficulty from moving star drivers from 2.6.32 to 3.0.x. It need re-write almost all device's drivers, remove nvodm part........

I am working on re-write the whole SU660's kernel , based on the Samsung I9103 kernel source. But it is really a hard work....

So as LG release the kernel 3.0.x source , maybe we can port other device's libnvxx.... to o2x.
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
How about this; reply to noobs if you're willing to do so happily, or else stay quite and let other members give the answer. Seems fair to me ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] silentmelodies:
Adding a reply to you in a separate post; it seems a 3.0.x kernel source from LG is very unlikely. If memory serves me right, even the HTC One X is still running with 2.6.x. Can't be sure about the Optimus 4x, but I wouldn't be surprised if it also comes with 2.6.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
T3 stuff runs 2.6.39, except for the N7, which uses 3.1
[LG Optimus 2x] marsgod:
Yes, most likely is LG just at a "workaround" to current 2.6.32 kernerl source, make the ICS working. Also LG has to use some new Nvidia's driver to make the video hwa working. But till now, I didn't see Nvidia release any working nvodm ICS drivers.
[LG Optimus 2x] jura55:
Agree with you.

BTW. There is still no answer or maybe more technical explanation about these Tegra 2 driver question.

We are in situation that some of other devices already using Tegra 2 chipset running ICS. I think almost everyone here can imagine that these devices aren't the same on HW. But we don't need drivers for whole hw(which differs from other devices) for our O2X, but only for Tegra2(or are there specific incompatible Tegra versions for each device - I know only about smartphone and tablet versions) part. Only explanation I can imagine here is that hardware drivers for whole phone(cpu, gpu, RAM, sd card driver, display driver, battery driver etc..) are compiled into one module. And because of that we cannon simply extract only Tegra2 part (or we can, but it is veeeeeery hard). Another possible explanation is that Tegra 2 driver have to be modified on source code level to work with other parts(drivres) of the phone. But I haven't seen this kind of explanations here in this thread yet.
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
From what i could understand on the latest Korean LG mobile's twitter post is, if their using LG's UI 3.0 with some features removed.

It's maybe because of the kernel version they chose to use (2.6 instead of 3.0.)

Something will not work, but for those who are only hoping for Cyanogenmod's work, then the update should be enough for Ricardo Cerqueira to work with.
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
i like this news! But where is the source ? :good:
[LG Optimus 2x] scalle288:
NOOO

Let's hope this is not true

https://twitter.com/LGCanada/status/228241570007220225

:crying:
[LG Optimus 2x] vipaman:
That might be for the P-999 not the P-990 .....
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
That info is a couple of days old and has been backed up by LG Canada since. They claim it is a marketing decision.
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
hmm contradicting statements between lg canada, and the home base lg korea, wonder whether anybody in lg communicate with each other, possibly all sections are ill informed
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
I agree. I even replied to LG Canada asking how the initial statement could be classed as a general one when it gave specifics and how decisions could be made locally when the initial statement clearly referred to a global rollout- no reply.

Canada won't be left out if we get it at all. There will be ways to get ICS on Canadian 2x's.
[LG Optimus 2x] gourd:
My understanding was that the o2x in Canada was a wind mobile thing, is that incorrect? So given that wind EOLd the phone, they might not be interested in pushing the update.

Then again I don't actually know how Canadian mobile service works so that could be totally off.
[LG Optimus 2x] Flix123:
As far as I know, they have the P990HN in Canada. So this news isn't for our P990.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Also the P999 by Wind Canada.

That's what I hope the answer from LG Canada was about because it has already been said that the P999 won't receive ICS by T-Mobile.

But it should be fairly easy to get a working ICS for the P990 to the P999.
[LG Optimus 2x] deewhy:
what's the difference between the two? would it be hard to get P990 ROM's onto the P990HN?

I haven't dabbled into custom ROM's yet (was planning on waiting until ICS came out to do so), but let's say if I wanted to put CM7 onto my phone, would I need to find a Fido specific version of it?
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Different frequency support.
[LG Optimus 2x] deewhy:
how do the differences in frequency support affect me asides from determining which networks I would be able to use my phone on?

does it affect my ability to use custom ROMs?
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Nope, different networks is all it affects... I'm certain CM runs on it fine.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Ricardo Cerqueira Interview

Okay guys as it's currently getting out of hands with all that speculations - and no one around can really answer the questions:

I just had a little chat with Ricardo Cerqueira.

He agrees to answer a couple questions about the 2x.

This is a great chance to clear up some confusion.

I do have some questions in mind but I'd like to collect ideas from you as well.

So just ask them here or send me a PM and I'll try to get the answers.

But as this is serious please don't ask something where you could easily find the answer with a little search.

Let's keep it technical mostly.
[LG Optimus 2x] Ximo F. Verde:
That's great news, really appreciated. Maybe our devs here would like to participate.
[LG Optimus 2x] FatherJony:
Thanks mate, you are providing us with a great opportunity with this one :)

After reading this i am starting to think that the reference code provided initially along with the platform isn't enough to allow developers to code ics compatible drivers. Nvidia needs to provide them to the OEMs. Does he know anything about this issue?

Is there a possibility that we could use driver blobs (i am talking about the gpu module only, not media acceleration modules) from other Tegra 2 devices like the Galaxy R? If not could he explain why in simple terms? Do OEMs really do custom implementations of the geforce gpu?

Are ics compatible drivers for our phone enough for a fully working JB/CM10?

Project Butter uses the cpu governor to ramp up the frequency to the max whenever there is a touch event on the screen. Is this behavior easy to be ported to our Tegra 2 device that doesn't support governors?
[LG Optimus 2x] peshal:
Well i would ask if he can get us a leaked rom. Its pretty certain that we are next on the list of phones getting upgrade and lg people must be working on the update right now. Also if he can get a leak rom means we will have pretty much fully functioning CM9 or even CM10 which we all are waiting for.
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
Regarding Nvidia drivers: I saw a post in a Samsung forum here where someone had queried Nvidia about ics drivers for a Samsung with a Tegra 2 processor.

The reply from Nvidia was that they hadn't been approached for the drivers and it outlined the steps Samsung would need to take to apply for them.

Can't reference the post right now but it is in these forums somewhere. I found it via a Google search.
[LG Optimus 2x] Androboss:
Guess most of us was right about ICS for our beloved 2x would not come from LG or Nvidia.

Only problem with this phone is no one wants an LG so i cant sell it.
[LG Optimus 2x] wapz:
Interesting, this:

"Hi Vikesh, Like I have mentioned earlier it not only the NVIDIA drivers there are Number of stuff which is required for the update also Google has a say in this & not only NVIDIA drivers. But if you check the web there are many tablets & phones based on Tegra chip which will be upgradable to ICS like the LG Optimus 2X also on the community website like Cyanogen etc there are already ICS based rom's for the Tegra based chips."

Best Regards,

FAE (Field Application Engineer – India)

NVIDIA Graphics Ltd.

Unit No.3, Sangam Big Cinema | 127, Andheri Kurla Road,

Andheri (East) | Mumbai – 400 059.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1748461
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
The replies there are interesting for sure. LG must be testing with *something* if they are indeed testing the 2x with ICS, The recent "FU" statement by Linus Torvaldis referenced NVidia and Android.

Google is left out of the discussion. I don't know about 2x phones branded by carriers in other regions but I consider my 2x as being Google branded. It has a big "Google" (something before that) written on the back silver strip.

This whole Android alliance seems to be a bit loose to me. The 2x is quite good on GB (although some seem to have issues). If performance is improved with ICS then that will be great. My main reason for wanting ICS for the 2x is to not be left in the dark with respect to applications. While only a few apps require ICS for now I don't think it will be too long until more and more don't support GB or don;t continue to develop their apps on GB. That situation happened to me with my old HTC when Microsoft stopped support for Windows Mobile and many of my apps just stopped working with no updates.

If the goal is to have the best possible user experience the we need updated software to ensure that. Google have a stake, they get money from the Play Store and developers developing for their (almost) latest software version.
[LG Optimus 2x] praveencs532:
Nvidia Tegra 2 Optimus 2x ICS drivers

When do u think Nvidia will release sources of GPU drivers for ICS ?Do we have to live as we are living with GB update witout updated kernel
[LG Optimus 2x] Enthroned:
This question is allready been answered some time ago: he doesn't have access to leaked roms (anymore)
[LG Optimus 2x] Marsou77:
In an interview between XDA and RC, he said that LG and him works together :

Why do not ask to LG a Beta of ICS ? We need only that.

If the question is silly, scuse me...
[LG Optimus 2x] karthik1der:
The only way we can get an update about ICS from LG is by making android news websites post about LG's statements like this (Turns out even the Optimus Black wont get ICS)

http://www.gsmarena.com/2011_xperia...no_ics_for_optimus_2x_and_black-news-4570.php

Maybe they will respond if these websites hype this up.Someone should contact verge about it.
[LG Optimus 2x] darryd:
huh, it's not good news for LG now, and bad for sales of new product LG 4x...
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
Whoever wrote that article hasn't done his or her research.

They are saying"

"Now it turns out that the ICS update for both phones has been canceled - in Canada, at least. The statement doesn't make it entirely clear if this is a country-specific thing or if all Optimus 2X and Black phones will remain stuck on Gingerbread."

LG Canada has stated that the decision was made regionally by them on the basis of marketing factors. They have also stated that decisions are to be made regionally despite the LG Facebook page stating that it would be a global rollout.

LG UK has also since given a September estimate.

It may well be a global decision not to rollout ICS but this article is just feeding on hype with little research done.
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
This is so confusing every regions saying different announcements
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
This has had the effect of creating hype. Other sites have linked to that article and there are a number of tweets going around generalizing the LG Canada statement.

Maybe something official globally will come from it.

---------- Post added at 09:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:37 PM ----------

Just to clarify what has been carried on by LG Canada (all posts by them to queries):

"Each country was responsible for evaluating its product line to determine an upgrade schedule based on the indiv market needs. "

"As such, each smartphone is reviewed on a case-by-case, and country-by-country basis to plan and roll out OS upgrades."

Q to LG Canada: "Do you mean to tell us that HQ blatantly lied to us? "Global upgrade" seems to be inclusive of Canada, does it not? "

Reply from LG Canada: "HQ is responsible for distributing information that affects the brand and its business units; however, it is the ..."
[LG Optimus 2x] afpapa:
I really really don't want an ICS update from LG, I don't care if they ever release it

But I want a JB update! That would be nice!
[LG Optimus 2x] grimmyrippy:
We still need the official ics for the developers to use it to make jb for our 2x

Correct me if im wrong :)
[LG Optimus 2x] Morti:
I called LG Mobile in the UK today and was told that the Optimus 2X isn't getting ICS. 3gp recording here: http://bill.mu/stuff/o2xics.3gp
[LG Optimus 2x] loipol84:
Fraud is the right word to describe the situation with updates on O2x and similar tegra2 phones...

Who is to blame ;

Nvidia or OEMs;

Is the punishment of losing market share enough or further legal action is required;
[LG Optimus 2x] wucinac:
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[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
Someone asked LG UK on Twitter if the LG Canada statement was true and they replied 2 hours ago:

"Hi, Unfortunately the firmware updates for each country will differ. I don't have a final schedule for UK just yet. Sorry."
[LG Optimus 2x] wucinac:
http://www.lgblog.de/2011/11/08/statement-zum-google-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-fuer-das-lg-p990-optimus-speed/
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
I reckon lack of clear communication and decisiveness are the biggest issues.

It seems LG Canada has made their decision without even getting their hands on the ICS build which seems to be still in testing by LG Korea.

We expect possible technical issues given the NVidia chip and their history but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of roadblocks yet.
[LG Optimus 2x] solrakk6:
we need just one country...one country = ics for all P990 !?

Portuguese P990 group

JOIN US!!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/250570088386102/
[LG Optimus 2x] FatherJony:
Guys, we have discussed the various lg support answers to death, the conclusion is and always has been that those answers come from people that know even less than we do about what's going on with the engineering teams at LG central. Tonyp and RC are providing us with a unique opportunity to get some answers about the p990 and the tegra 2 platform from a guy that actually knows what he is talking about. Don't miss out on that. We can discuss lg support, our predictions, tarot readings and cross reference with Nostradamus and/or John's Apocalypse later, i am sure we will have plenty of time till this thing clears up ;).

Also, please don't ask for leaks from LG, drivers sources from Nvidia or internal info about these two companies, RC can't get you those things for various reasons.

Btw Tonyp, could you ask RC if the limited memory bandwidth of the Tegra 2 platform is a serious bottleneck for the geforce gpu?
[LG Optimus 2x] Kinimod01:
what do you want to tell us, with this post? Your source is from 2011...
[LG Optimus 2x] wucinac:
yes, that I saw when I post.

I was really happy, so I did not see the date.:fingers-crossed::)
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
gsmarena just posted this, wonder if we can believe what lg canada is stating or gsmarena news, either way gsmarena doesnt do much research b4 posting unlike us :)

http://www.gsmarena.com/2011_xperia...no_ics_for_optimus_2x_and_black-news-4570.php

oh ok at the bottom of the post they stated they werent unsure if its country specific, my bad ;)
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
If you would have read only ONE page ahead you would have seen that the exact same link has already been posted and discussed.
[LG Optimus 2x] kornrullez:
LG WEBCARE NL ‏@LG_WEBCARE_NL

@kornrullez LG Benelux heeft nog geen nieuws over ICS op de Optimus toestellen 2xSpeed en Black. Wij komen er spoedig op terug.Volg Twitter.

LG webcare EN @ LG_WEBCARE_NL

@ kornrullez LG Benelux has no news about ICS on the Optimus devices 2xSpeed ​​and Black. We come soon terug.Volg Twitter.
[LG Optimus 2x] I.m.Tuga:
Hey Tonyp, so what questions you intent to ask to Ricardo Cerqueira?

As for myself i don't have a clue what to ask....despite the fact that this forum section is quite a random turmoil and some answers could be very welcome.
[LG Optimus 2x] wucinac:
yust seen this http://www.androidnova.org/tag/lg/

maybe its the same news as on gsmarena!
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
I'd say it is the same even though they don't mention Canada specifically

They all seem to be jumping on the bandwagon.

It results in more confusion but may end up with some clear announcement.
[LG Optimus 2x] tonyp:
Yes.. regarding that.

I will post my questions later when I finished drawing them up, but I'd really appreciate some input from everyone here as well.

Here's my post from a couple pages back:

"Okay guys as it's currently getting out of hands with all that speculations - and no one around can really answer the questions:

I just had a little chat with Ricardo Cerqueira.

He agrees to answer a couple questions about the 2x.

This is a great chance to clear up some confusion.

I do have some questions in mind but I'd like to collect ideas from you as well.

So just ask them here or send me a PM and I'll try to get the answers.

But as this is serious please don't ask something where you could easily find the answer with a little search.

Let's keep it technical mostly."
[LG Optimus 2x] bihariel:
what sources are you using?

are you using a cm repo or you are building from google sources?
[LG Optimus 2x] Imperticus:
using cm repo and filled in the gaps.

EDIT: working with barmyman, hope he can get it to boot.
[LG Optimus 2x] meinmichi:
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/ic...ce-cream-a500-new-alpha-posted-12-7-11-a.html

iss a tegra2 base and have sound....
[LG Optimus 2x] kiljacken:
You guys seriously have to understand that Tegra 2 is simply the name of the CPU+GPU package. Audio, camera, memory, screen, radio and stuff like that is different from device to device. Posting these threads won't help us a bit.
[LG Optimus 2x] meinmichi:
sorry, now i know it....

if the press right, ther come an ics update for this in second quarter 2012, very late......

you guys make that real bevor i think!

now i only look and hope with you of upcomming drivers....
[LG Optimus 2x] TrZ69:
Hi Imperticus!

News about your rom?? :rolleyes:
[LG Optimus 2x] bpaiva:
Nvidia tegra ventana ics os image

hi,

I heard about problems about develop to 2x or g2x because GPU accelaration on ICS, but las saturday nvidia relese this :

Google IT: ( 1st msg in forum i cannot post links :( )

TEGRA VENTANA ICS OS IMAGE

and a new a Tegra Android Toolkit 1.0r4 : date 20/01/2012

This will help in near future get to LG 2x/G2x ICS with GPU Acce.. ???

Sorry for the errors, i am Portuguese....
[LG Optimus 2x] Evil_enc:
Nvidia released something that might be interesting for our developers:

http://developer.nvidia.com/content/android-40-ics-os-images-tegra-android-available

http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources

The release package consists of binary code, drivers developed on our reference platforms and any patches necessary to ensure stability & performance with ICS and our developer tools.

what about that?
[LG Optimus 2x] bpaiva:
Thanks for post links :)
[LG Optimus 2x] barmyman:
wow, technically now we have everything what we need to build ICS...or i am wrong?

Edit: ups, i was wrong..the image, that comes with those links, is for ventara... :(
[LG Optimus 2x] eraldo:
Hope that was exactly what the devs needed and we will see a stable enough ICS rom in a few days fingers crossed.
[LG Optimus 2x] bpaiva:
But for my searchs the LG 2x/G2x are Tegra Ventana devices... I am wrong?

Harmony isn't the tegra 2 tablets based?

The harmony not get the 2.3 update and the ventana have, and LG 2X have a 2.3 official update, so for LG make the 2.3 rom they have needed the NVIDIA OS IMAGE.... so LG 2x/G2x is ventana based or not?
[LG Optimus 2x] Evil_enc:
would be nice if a developer would judge that. could be usefull. is it?
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
I think it is, I seem to recall RC getting hold of a Ventana dev setup.
[LG Optimus 2x] m0fizor:
As far as i remember, O2x is using the Ventana platform.

PS: i may have sold my O2x, but i miss the community here. Keep it up guys.
[LG Optimus 2x] Legatus Onoris:
Don't be too happy,guys.....the codes are only for ventana,not for harmony.

As usual,the 2x is the worst:not only lg with bad firmwares but nvidia also.

Wow!
[LG Optimus 2x] Imperticus:
Thanks for the tips guys, will have a look when I get home.

With regards to ics, I solved a couple of issues, but it seems audio and power management causing bootloops.
[LG Optimus 2x] wapz:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/9nb8sajTX18

see RCs comments here
[LG Optimus 2x] TrZ69:
I hope that you can solve soon this problem ;D
[LG Optimus 2x] Rutifruti:
I think that they released sources allready
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
Somebody asked if Tegra 2 bandwith is a big limitation, I think you should ask that.
[LG Optimus 2x] Rusty!:
Given the amount of tablets using it, i think not.
[LG Optimus 2x] rjjcvb:
Maybe you should ask if Ricardo knows someone working at LG, and if this contact has some news about ICS update :victory:
[LG Optimus 2x] vipaman:
I guess he must had thought about it before itself
[LG Optimus 2x] rjjcvb:
Yes... Anyone? Ideas??

Another question! ETA for our device? Or will full dedicated work can he somehow invent drivers for our p990. Or something like that??:confused:

I think this is the only time we can as for ETA;):laugh:
[LG Optimus 2x] Blazing angel:
It really isn't
[LG Optimus 2x] loipol84:
Ask RC if HE believes ICS or even JB can run on O2x from a technical point of view.
[LG Optimus 2x] henkspank:
Did you guys realise the box the phone came in the netherlands my country says that we will always get the latest updates from LG. You know what that means? if we won't get jelly bean from lg I could sue LG. Would that do any good if I did? :laugh:

That'll put some good pressure on them :good:
[LG Optimus 2x] wjr002:
That's fine provided there isn't a technical issue that prevents an update being done.

If there is an issue then you can't get it because it won't be available.

For now, we just don't know so we wait.
[LG Optimus 2x] jamez.tankh:
i remember there was a batch of optimus 2x with sticker on the box promoting upgrade-able to ics...

if LG denied ics upgrade for 2x i think that will be a best evidence to sue LG for cheating customers purchasing their product by given miss info...

but the thing is 2x had no more new stock in my country so i can't find out the sticker anymore...any of you guys notice the sticker b4???
[LG Optimus 2x] kornrullez:
i have the package

whit the text

ALWAYS THE LATES ANDROID UPGRADE!

VIP!

BLABLABLA
[LG Optimus 2x] loipol84:
LOL @ Can you handle the speed...
[LG Optimus 2x] kornrullez:
NOO! ITS TO FAST

for LG Not for us
[LG Optimus 2x] Tranos:
guys the funny thing is that optimus 2x is the first dual core in the world and the first dual core wont take ics!!!!!!!!!!!!!lololol

PS i hope i will be lied by lg and ics even buggy will be released
[LG Optimus 2x] lopiop:
the optimus 2x has quite a large userbase, lg should value their "flagship" device, or may be they have abandoned the device
[LG Optimus 2x] loipol84:
One more question for RC.

If we get ICS from LG is CM 10 going to be fully functional;
[LG Optimus 2x] Dekudan:
It's not guaranteed, but every other tegra device seems to have ported nicely if we had the ICS sources/binaries.

Of course, not really a question for RC. I think he only knows as much as us.
[LG Optimus 2x] kaspar737:
No I can't handle the speed I am a snail.
[LG Optimus 2x] msedek:
well this got slow as hell.. We could get some news from time to time but none /death /nothing /nada

Enviado desde mi GT-P7500 usando Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 2x] Luk_Optimus:
@tonyp

I think you could ask if it would be enougth if an other Tegra2 PHONE gets ICS.