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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
if you think doing 90gb to a phone in an lte market is ruining it for everyone else you are mistaken.

HSPA yeah that is a massive amount but on lte that is nothing, compare it to a cup of water added to the ocean.

Even when the whole country is running lte, the backbone will be the bottleneck not tower to device.

The only way to get the amount of data the percentages represent is for everyone to start pumping down as much data as possible.

The carriers are worried about the so called data hogs killing their network when they should be worried about the sheer amount of users at peak times who are using the network. Over subscription of network resources is normal and taken into account when planning, but are they planning on a 10to1 or 100to1 or 10000to1 ratio and what does each #mean? They represent different things depending on the type of network we are tallking about. I would hope it is in the 100to1 (100 users for every meg of capacity is what im hoping) but it is probably 1000to1 or worse.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] JFizDaWiz:
Got a warning message I was nearing the 5%. Doing it on purpose though, downloading a 7GB HD movie over Usenet. Up to 11GB in a week

Edit: immediately after posting I got throttled,20KB/s ... Crap I have 3 Weeks left in my Billing cycle

Update: switched my apn to "phone"not only is it not capped but it seems faster. AT&T 0,	Jordan 2 (first being getting unlimited data as a new customer)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Got me today too. swapping apns now :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] projectdownset:
phone apn works! No more throttled data
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
keep on D/l let's get that 5% moved up and up
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Got me again 10 days into this cycle...switched APNs and I'm downloading EVERYTHING..watching Vimeo..flash videos..netflix..slingbox. F AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] toyfreak:
The part if all this which bugs me is how AT&T could keep the "top 5%" beatdown going indefinitely thus reducing the data cap for those of us with grandfathered unlimited data plans... Who's watching the watchers anyway?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] chakra:
Class action Suit! I am in!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ajamils:
I'm not even a AT&T customer yet but I am in as well. The whole world is going towards "Unlimited" everything US carriers are still busy price gouging :mad:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
lol I have been just loading up stuff like pandora and letting it play continuously in my office

also have been sending them emails, facebook posts ect about every hour haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I just wish we could get the word out to everyone that is being throttled without alerting AT&T to shut it down. I've been telling people on At&t's forums to look around..there is a work around. And i've been telling everyone that I know to switch APNs. Next billing cycle i'm going to try something new. I've bought a sim adapter/cutter. So i'm going to pop my sim back in my iphone 4 and tether all over the place and try to get up to 10 gigs as soon as possible and see if they throttle me. If they don't then I know they are targeting non iphone users...or LTE users.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ajamils:
My friend who is on Verizon told me that there some type of zip file that you can flash that remove the script that throttle the speed. Do we have something like that for SR ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cheiftokitdown:
I have also just been throttled. Got a text yesterday saying I was getting close to the top 5% and to use wifi. Then today I got another text that I was in the top 5% and that I may be throttled instantly my data speeds dropped to a crawl. I used about 5gb with about 10 days left in my billing cycle.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
i wonder if different markets have different limits

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] shansmi:
It is not device related per say. It is APN related. On PTA they are watching but on the old ones they are not. It is not ROM related either since many run custom ROMs with all that crapola removed but still get throttled. If it was ROM related I doubt anyone running a Rogers ROM for example would be throttled.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ajamils:
Where can I find this APN setting? Just got my SkyRocket so would like to keep this info handy :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
3 days ago i got a "almost at 5%" text message.

yesterday AT&T turns on LTE in my area

today im throttled to the point where the phone really doesn't work anymore (with 15 days left in my cycle)

i have tried the wap.cingular and "phone" apn's and both seem to get the same speeds as my PTA?

not sure if i have the right settings though.. can somebody please confirm what they are?

thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] s0cal:
I have the SR and am seriously thinking about switching to a Galaxy Nexus because of this bs about data throttling? Whats the point of having LTE if there are limits to its usage? Its just a tease to having it. I think its better off using HSPA+ using the APN instead of this LTE crap. Anyone agree?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
LTE is better.

Eventually the limits are going to raise as the carriers are forced to change their data allocations. Or people with 2gig plans get their first LTE bill and raise holy hell about how much they got charged.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dtothesquare:
got the top 5% warning today, 7 days into my cycle and i'm at 1.5 gb... wtf.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] highlanderx:
It appears to gradually raise with the passing of the days. but if you get throttled, it'll be till the end of the month.

The moving limit is stupid. As people stop the usage and lower the consumption, so does lower the limit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] akhnatenor:
They are doing the data throttling to setup a walled garden, ie. an AOL business model. Verizon announced a few days ago that they are starting a streaming video service. You can bet they will eventually not count that streaming against the cap. I expect AT&T To follow suit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
im bqck full speed now... time to peg out again to get the bar raised.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dtothesquare:
if i get throttled at 2 gb of data.. im going to be pissed. What's the point of unlimited if i get limited to their 2 gb tired plan.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I got the text 2.5 gigs into this billing cycle...I switched APNs and now i'm up to 27 gigs. F them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Can you throttled guys do a search (root explorer) of your system files and tell me if you find a file called throttle or throttled
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
There is /data/system/throttled but that doesn't affect the speeds... And there are one or two files in there with random numbers.

Delete the files and nothing changes.

Make the folder unwriteable and every 2 seconds your phone will crash till you use adb and make it writable again.

You can change the apn but it won't help in areas with lte which will force you to throttled.... If you are in a 3g area you can become un throttled only after changing apn.? But once you drive to a lte area you will be capped again
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
That explains why changing the apn doesn't work for me... we have lte everywhere
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I'm in an LTE area and its working for me. I'm in DC and there is LTE all the way up to baltimore.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cheiftokitdown:
I'm in the DC area also. I am throttled but changing the apn doesn't do anything.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Can you post your settings. And from choice pwease
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dtothesquare:
Also, are you manually setting the phone to not look for the LTE network and just have it look for the HSPA+ and below?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I'm using the Rocketeer ROM and I changed the APN and also forced the Network Mode to GSM/HSPA (Auto Mode)

The APN settings are:

Name: HSPA+ ATT

APN: Phone

APN Type: Internet

All other settings are default. I also am NOT on 2.3.6 and noticed when I updated the APN didn't work anymore, so I went back.

I also have the WAP Cingular built and have working MMS.

On another note, I remember reading a while back on these forums that people were able to edit a file on the phone that disabled throttling. Maybe someone can dig it up..I don't recall what forum (android phone) it was in. I remember they were on T-mobile though...wondering if we can do something similar. Unfortunately T-Mobile did something and that "fix" doesn't work anymore.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
What do you mean "force the network mode"?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
In this ROM..and I don't know if its on the Stock ROM..but when you go to Settings/Wireless and Network/Mobile Networks, right under Access Point Names is Network Mode...i change it from LTE to GSM/HSPA.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Yeah i have seen that option in the tmo roms and a few skyrocket roms (just tested on quikwiz and it works) . Thank you for posting the info!!! You might post this in your first post.. definitely sticky worthy IMO
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
This might just be the thing that finally gets me off stock rom lol

Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] highlanderx:
You can do.that but you must also change the apns. Othereise you will be throttled
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] n19htmare:
With the data speeds sprint has, they can offer Unlimited data 5 times over lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
i flashed the rogers rom which gives me *#2263#* - from here i have many options to select LTE or GSM networks (lots of different options i.e gsm850, gsm900, etc etc)

do you know what your setting your "mobile networks" to GSM/HSPA would be on this? GSMxxxx?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Yes...that is part of the steps he posted
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] fukenbiker:
I got booted off my grandfathered unlimited plan. It was unlimited data, albeit just 2G. My first smart phone, the Sony Ericsson x10i does not have an attenna that even supports AT&T's HSPA or 3G. When I got an x10a from Ebay, it was a branded AT&T handset and their system, without my permission, changed my data plan the day after I lit that new phone up with my SIM.

I argued and complained and here I am on their tiered data plan. I occasionally break the 2GB ceiling and have to pay ten dollars a gigabyte for overage.

If you have a grandfathered plan that runs at 3G I want to learn about it!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
wtf, that is f'ed up!

---------- Post added at 02:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:40 AM ----------

You guys that have been throttled, how much did you end up using that month? i think im at 10gb and i was throttled at 3.4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
First month I was throttled after 8.5 gigs. This month I was throttled after 2.5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
last month throttled at 5.1gb this month at 2 and still going strong

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
I got the throttle warning at 3.3 gigs (I think netflix triggers it, it was a day after I watched netflix for 2 hours), and for ****s and giggles, I've abused the LTE network.

Currently at 23GB with no throttle... I think they just wanted me to stop using Netflix.. MAJOR Net-Neutrality right there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
That’s a good observation (regarding Netflix maybe being a trigger) – maybe it has something to do with Verzion trying to buy Netflix lol

In my case, thanksgiving I was supposed to meet my friend and I was waiting for him and he called me and said he will be there in an hour and a half. I told him don’t worry I’ll just watch Netflix on my phone.. watched movies and the next day (or maybe it was 2 days later) I got my warning.

Since then though ive abused the **** out of AT&T’s data network in my protest, using a lot more then I would ever normally use. Just checked and im at 13gb for the month (I average just under 4gb normally)

If they do this again I plan to hit 20gb+ every time they do it.

However, when im reset again to normal speeds – I’ll see if I can go the entire month WITHOUT Netflix to see what happens.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
My data resets today, I won't open up Netflix for the month (uninstalling it from my phone), and see what happens when I suck up data.

If I can get to 20GB+ without a warning, then it's Netflix as a trigger, and you can report that to the FCC and put AT&T in some ****. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
No Netflix here, but got the warning immediately after watching sling box then throttled the next time I watched it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
i wonder if you can set slingbox to run on port 80 or something.. if that will bypass AT&T's detection?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
I've got an idea, use orbot (tor for android) while on LTE, its a Von, and should encrypt the packets.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I got the text almost immediately after texting to find out my data usage...I would say within 5 minutes. I can't tell you what I was doing right before it though..probably slingbox.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dxtra:
This is some BS. I'm two weeks into my billing period an out of curiosity I check my data usage me thinking in my head nah I only use about 200mb this months I've been on Wi-Fi 90% of the time. I get the text message back 1.3gb for this month! No effin way. There's No way I use that amount of data I don't stream music or movies. Mostly Pulse, Facebook and email when I'm outside of Wi-Fi. Anyways my point is at&t is not been fair here they doing this So they could throttle us sooner. Pay attention to your data usage something is up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] john94si:
I am in my first month with unlimited and i am just over 7gb so far and getting 50mb down and 12 up still..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
Have you ever used netflix?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] john94si:
Tested but mostly from torrents
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] astang99:
I just got hit with the "approaching the top 5% please use wifi to reduce usage and I'm around 7.5 GB, why have a skyrocket when I can't use LTE?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
This actually has little to do with the skyrocket or lte. They started it back on Oct 1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I edited the first post to include how I "bypassed" the throttle.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
So check this out...I just got my sim cutter in the mail because I wanted to test something. I cut my sim to match the size of a micro sim. Now i'm currently throttled and for before I take my card out, I go back to the old APN and i'm getting 150 kbps. I take my sim out..pop it in my old iphone 4 and bam. 3.8 mbps. WTF!!!! So next billing cycle, i'm going to pop the sim in my Iphone...leave netflix running and see if they throttle me or not. If they do, i'll pop the sim back in my Skyrocket and see if I can get LTE speeds. I'm confused over this though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dranakin:
Thanks for that, but I had a question. You stated "I also have the WAP Cingular built and have working MMS."

Are those separate APNs you have to enable besides just the one you posted to get these features?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Justinfedor:
Att gives you unlim data usuage not unlim data speeds. U still have unlim usuage just slower lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I did it separate, though some people have reported just using the wap cingular for both internet and MMS. If you do the MMS separate you don't have to "enable"...it just works.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Cyberguycpt:
Hahaha. So true.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
The problem is that it isn't really usable. The speeds that we are being choked down to cause most websites and functions to error out
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] orlandoxpolice:
just got this a few minutes ago.

I wish ATT would disclose some statistics, as in who the top user is and how much data usage makes up that 5%
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] wizzler1:
Thank you very much for the settings. I'm quite irked at the tactics of AT&T and other phone providers to force people to adopt tiered plans. I didn't sign up for soft caps, unlimited should be unlimited period. Not unlimited oh by the way your data is useless after amount we specify is top 5%. Anywho, thanks a bunch!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
Did you use netflix at all? And how much data are you at so far?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] sanners38:
Throttled here too. I do not use netflix. Got the warning message at 2.6 GB. I have wrote my senators and will be writing my congressman. I suggest everyone else do the same. Also write to the FCC. Unlimited data plans are paying AT&T a premium for this service. There is absolutely no transparency in how AT&T is calculating top 5%. I would have to assume with people on various different billing cycles that they are sampling users within the same billing cycle and limiting based on top 5% in each cycle. But of course we do not know because AT&T will not tell us. AT&T will not even show usage statistics so we can manage to stay out of the top 5%. With the restriction on the top 5% AT&T has the ability to limit far more than the top 5% of their users. Some people are getting limited days into the new billing cycle. One can assume that they would eventually drop out of the top 5% while other users move into the top 5%. Therefore AT&T gets to limit far more than just 5% of their users.

Further questions that should be asked include why is AT&T if having all of these bandwidth issues not restricting new users from signing up for their service. I have calculated that I have paid AT&T $18,000 over the last 10 years for my service. You would think that they would value a customer paying them that kind of money more than a new customer who may drop their service in short order.

Tell your congressman and senators to stop the T-mobile deal, and to investigate how AT&T is calculating and limiting ONLY their unlimited data users.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] orlandoxpolice:
google music hurts
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] propsizzle:
what is really interesting is that they seem to be throttling based upon use pro-rated over a month period.

i've noticed many people getting the messages at 2 gb, if they have hit that number early in their billing cycle. which says to me, it's not total amount of data usage, but it's the rate of usage.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Its a combination of both...as mentioned earlier in this thread. It is a rollingbtotal...if at any given time you are in the top 5% which is crazy easy to do at the beginning of the month
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] rdfry:
I'm on tmobile and it is the same crap. They sell us a phone that uses data but we are not really allowed to use it. Stream some music, stream some video and boom all of a sudden you can only make phone calls. This needs to end.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] astang99:
It doesn't make sense, I'm at 8gb and got my first warning at 7gb, yet I'm seeing people get it at 2.5gb? Something about the top 5% doesn't calculate correctly
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
It's stupid.

I got the warning text at 2.9GB, and managed to smash over 20GB without a throttle.

Either their system COMPLETED missed me, or I got extremely lucky.

I'm going to do the same again this month, and see what happened, also writing to the FCC.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
i will join you in the fcc writing.

think this will be the third time. heh once was for nancy grace inciting violence, man i cant stand her.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] astang99:
What do I need to do to write the FCC, ill help
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Justinfedor:
I just seen someone throttled at a little less than 2gb. ****s crazy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Justinfedor:
Write all you want. Everyone is complaining of breach of contract. Well a little advice to all. Atts contract for unlim data is unlim data usuage not unlim speeds. So therefore att is not breaking contract. Top 5% is by market, not by all data users. Have fun wasting paper and your time. Not gonna do anything
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Silenthillnight:
Just got a warning at 1.6GB. What's the point of unlimited data if I can't even download as much as those in the tiered plans?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
this reply is nicer then what i typed originally.

one throttling top x% does not do anything to protect the integrity ofa network, there are a few write ups a out that already, do some searching since it's a pain to link from a phone.

second throttling the top x% when there is no baseline for what makes a user a top x% user is a pretty good scam and sure you can say otherwise or hide behind whateved makes you feel better for being negative but it is a scam.

without true metrics that support their actions it is in the end a scam. like in the 90's when you paid by the minute for aol but regional isp's charged a flat rate a month, today it is cell service and data. something will change.

fcc complaints against those two issues especially if one can prove the throttling is done with a bias to certain use patterns will have an outcome. now it won't be an overnight outcome but will be something and happen eventually.

be negative, be a pessimist, but if you are not helpful then you're just static that is causing everyone to adjust their squelch.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] s8int117:
Same here, couple of youtube vids, bout 100 e-mails, pandora and bammm, throttled to .13 mb/s 13 days into my cycle. Man it suks, but that wont stop me. 6gigs last month, @2.5 now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Justinfedor:
They still have unlim data. Everyone keeps crying cuz speeds are low. Att is giving other options. You dont want other options then too bad for you. Suffer! They decide the top 5 by market thats y someone in cali might get throttled at 10gigs but someone in penn might be throttled at 3. The numbers dont mean ****. Att never changed contract. You guys are just finding new ways to complain. If speed means so much to you then change your damn apn and stop crying
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] fukenbiker:
I have racked up half a gig already early in my billing cycle just from testing cyanogenmod over the weekend. I am on a tiered data plan ten bucks a gig overage. If I test throttling it's liable to cost me hundreds of dollars ... thank you for contributing ...