yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Lately I've been having problems with apps accessing the SD card but I also use Boot Manager so that probably is the main root of the problem since I never actually flash it. I will actually flash it once it has ril probably. I'm flashing this latest build so let's see what magic is in the box. I unzipped and re-zipped and replaced nova with apex. So that's simple enough to do when installing it. I think it would be cool if someone developed a Rom Customization installer where you get to pick which launcher to use and maybe themes and other stuff right off the bat but we'll get to that in the future once everything else works lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Can't say I have sd problems.. I rarely put anything on there except big data files.

Yeah, instead of adding "Aroma installer" (some rom maintainers add that to their roms), I just did a workaround of including all three launchers in the rom so the person would just pick one and set it as default. It's not the most ethical position to take as it increases download size and harder to track what someone's using if they don't state it.

Hmm.. Just noticed Camcorder is working perfect with playback with Paper camera. Gives me a few ideas of what to play to figure it out.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
IDK if it already exists or not but it would be cool if someone just made an app called System App installer that would install/uninstall any app you want as a system app using root.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
well, root tools lets u uninstall system apps and data apps. there's other apps out there too, but idk about any apps that automatically installs an app into the system or whatever.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Yeah someone should make that probably be decently simple but just make it look super pro and have a good interface.

Anyways back on topic! Hows the camcorder coming guys?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Dunno. Haven't pinpointed the one change needed yet. Or I might have and haven't built using it yet. It'll work when it decides to I guess.

I hear these reports of how one unnamed developer works day and night as hard as he can to get things running, while another has overcome every obstacle remaining to get data fully working in the most epic display of dev work ever. Hmm, must be the wait for the official release starting to drive people nuts...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well I talked to an unnamed developer on gtalk and he says data is working on ICS and that he is just testing and then going to tweet a single link with no forum threads. So we shall see.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
Ya,I heard that, too..any idea when? Tomorrow? Next week?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Yeah, I live at the Playboy mansion. Oh look at that, since I said it and I want it to be true, it must be...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Pics or it didn't happen.

And supporting proof/evidence - logs, or something etc. I'd be skeptical, some people just thrive off emotions on that working radio.

On the recording.. I'm stumped, but I feel it can't be the kernel, video recording is working on the mecha from last night's build if you try these apps:

- Paper Camera

- lgcamera, but you have to play around with the settings. mp4 isn't working, but 3gpp is recording and got to use a lower resolution than 1280x720

Could it be the camera app package, if were there any missing commits andromadus had?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
It is the camera app. I had the video recording configuration set up wrong. All the resolutions were mixed up.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well that's good you found out one of the problems.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Yeah, that sounds like really solid information. It works, but I haven't tested it. I passed it off, but there was no response. I have it done, but nothing to show.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Yeah I kinda felt the same way lol. I try not to take side but I'm kinda with you that if it's true we'll see it if not it'll slowly go quiet again.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Calling shens here too.

Even if I give him the benefit of doubt some things are really obvious:

Tbolt ICS development is nowhere existent outside of twisted's work. If this guy had his own ICS working there should've been a thread or dev thread on it long ago, it's like a game of whack the mole reading that chat log lol.

Invisible anonymous testers.. while you're one right there in front of him....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well the way I understood it he was taking either Twisted or Protekk's build and making it work with a ril he acquired. Not making a new build from scratch but. I think probably it's just as sketchy as it sounds.

Let's get back to getting the camcorder up and running Ima ready to test stuff :P
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
There is a lot of other development, but of the three other big names there was one to move on to other devices and a bigger team and the two others have pulled these stunts about twice each and it always ended with just letting the hype pass.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrkite38:
Even if it is true, getting our proverbial knickers in a twist won't help.

If it is working and he's not handing it out...

If it isn't working, and he's claiming it is...

See how either way you're a bit miffed? Hold on to that feeling.

I'll close with something I said earlier: when it happens, everyone and their mother will know. Let's keep things on topic in here.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
LOL yeah sorry I helped it get off topic lol. Thanks for stepping in mod :P

Looking forward to the next Twisted ICS Build!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] what be up:
Hey! The regular download link is working again wohoo :P
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Wait a little bit. Will be uploading soon with some milestone changes.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Br0wNb0y:
Okay thanks... I'm doing a nandroid backup now anyways :D

Edit: I'm ready to test and provide some feedback. Any ETA for the new drop?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Ryanmo5:
Just wanted to say thanks for everything your doing, keep up the amazing work!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Got delayed by an error in the package script and sleep, but within the next 2 hours.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Not to build up too much hype but I poured tons of edits into this, including my custom speedtweak. If anything it will be a big improvement on performance and hopefully some things got fixed as well.

The gapps are streamlined in. Using a terminal and running speedtweak will give options to optimize. Zipalign and the custom wget are present. A bootanimation that doesn't show yet is included. Hw acceleration is enabled. Some new radio components were added. All The stuff I intended to add the first time before I corrupted my install.

Uploading now, should be available in about an hour.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] c_live_lee:
Looking forward to trying this out! Thanks man.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jnahon:
Thanks for the hard work

just wanted to say thank you for the hard work thats going into this, I loaded the updated build today in a spare thunderbolt so it has no sim. I was getting FC through out the wizard / ui until I went to keyboards and changed the default keyboard from symbols (chinese i think) to english. Also I can see the device connect to wifi and lists on my router but doesnt seem to connect out over it. The UI is definately faster and responds much better than previous builds, Keep up the great work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Chopes:
Thoughts on this most recent build?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] thewebsiteisdown:
As soon as I hear this thing is a daily driver I will be loading it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] wtfmate913:
Awesome! just in general

Going to wait for the new build to come out today and try it out but, just to be clear:

this is pure ICS? like no overlay such as the MIUI ICS?

and also, why is the kernel and the rom separate? Do I need to flash rom and then kernel? or kernel then rom?

thanks for all the work
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Br0wNb0y:
Is the latest build on the first post or should I wait a bit longer for any new updates coming down the pipeline?

Thanks for all the new changes btw!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
You can test that one. Fixing the Chinese issue and some other stuff for later, but it won't be a ton of difference.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Br0wNb0y:
thanks I just tested it and here are some findings:

No access to Verizon Network (no 3g/4g) means theres no texts or calls

Bunch of things "stopped" on first boot, setup is very picky and crashes a lot

Dfault keyboard is in Chinese so had to change to English Keyboard or it kept crashing

Setting wallpapers results in "System UI has stopped" repeatedly and makes the device unusable. I had to restart to use it again.

Duplicate apps in the app drawer (Movie Studio, Browser, Clock, Gallery, Email)

Gallery app doesn't load and there seems to be two of them (com.android.gallery3d and com.google.android.gallery3d)

Random red box pops up around the screen when touching the screen

Rotation takes a very long time from landscape back to potrait

Live wallpapers are distorted (Smoke is all trippy and discolored)

Touchscreen becomes unresposive time to time (I had to restart)

GPS unable to find exact location but weather widget comes close. I'm thinking it's pulling it from wifi.

Bluetooth doesn't turn on

Camera doesn't work

No sound

Works:

Notification menu works but is kind of slow

Wifi/Browser

Settings Menu is smooth

Brightness Control works

Nexus live wallpaper works

Shutting down

Restarting

Rebooting into recovery

If only I could get data up and running. That way I would be able to test calls and texting. Thanks for all the effort and hopefully this becomes a daily driver soon!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] paulsg63:
DITTO!!

I tested the latest build and had the same results...

Thanks for the effort so far!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
The red box is not an error, that is a feature of the engineering build to notify processes on the main thread. Working on data now, and will be working on bluetooth soon. Camera is disabled until it is fixed, and thus so is gallery. Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully that helps to better explain where it is at and what to be expected.

New build is uploading though that supports disabling hw acceleration and has some edits to help data, hopefully.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Br0wNb0y:
No problem!

I was unaware of the red box.. good to know.

I'll give the new build a whirl when it is ready. What is the benefit of disabling hardware acceleration?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] diazkyubi:
no keyboard :(

I cant set anything up becuz the keyboard doesn't even pop up for me to put in my wep key on wifi. no keyboard for anything and the speech to text not working for me either. i cant explore anything if my keyboard doesnt pop up. for what its worth, when i go to language and input in settings, the keyboard is greyed out, don't know what that means and not sure if anyone else is experiencing this bug, but if it helps there ya go! good luck modding, i see a hefty donation coming thru one i get some working frozen dairy treat on my Mecha!!! great work so far.

p.s. also, dont know if this helps, but on the previous build, the keyboard worked fine but wifi wouldnt connect. is there any other kernel i can use on this build or is the one u upload the only working one so far? i did clean install and still no keyboard, but i flashed back to the previous build and the keyboard came up...happy bug fiximg!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] krnsushiman:
Twisted and Vicious are working on data right now. Everything seems to be working. Via twitter
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kidhudi:
Yes i just read that on twitter it seems he is knockin the hell out of it. i got a little chuckle out of " Viciously Twisted production!!"
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fillyo:
It would be nice to prove some arrogant people wrong, best of luck on this project
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Sweet hopefully it doesn't go out again for a while.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dave8311:
Any chance of getting an FM radio on this?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I'm sure this will happen at a later time. It's not like you can really use this phone as a DD without RIL anyways.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] befreshshaveivorysalesoap:
DD? What is that?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] major_works:
DD = daily driver, i.e., a ROM that's stable and complete enough to install and use day-to-day in normal fashion. That's as opposed to a ROM that is largely functional but missing some element that precludes its use on a daily basis. Like this one, for example.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Wonder how the latest fundraiser / rally went...

New release later today. Working on camera, some new settings to mess with display composition (use with caution), and cleaning up the phone app for when it is actually a necessary component.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Thanks for the update! What's display composition?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Its the way the display is configured. Best bet is just to leave it as is. Its more for testing what works and doesnt, but i still need to add options for the bypass stuff.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Fixed phone layout
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I wish Nova/Apex would add in an Icon resize option or that Go Launcher Ex would update to be comparable to the other ICS launchers it's mainly the App Drawer they need to update.

I'll have to try out the new updated phone apk but probably just wait for the next build lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
How's things been going in the source the past day? Syncing with the source now.

Been taking a break from ripping my hair off, esp. with the "this is not working" "bugs" on the other ICS vivo rom.

Just saw you figured out the phone and other minor issues, that's great!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
--> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=24376184&postcount=1279
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Yep, I get what you mean.

Sometimes the users in my section are just complaining about bugs where I don't even know what is the source of the issue or where to even begin looking...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
That was the problem I faced with phone. I dumped the entire thing and started fresh just to clean up all the commits into the right order. Given the issue was one missing in contacts to fix 4.0.4 but either way things had to get back to being able to trace every change. I think if anything had to be reverted from anything more than a few days on that build it would just stay broken. Ironically that is what needs to be done to get the optimal display setup.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Speaking of which, the playground panel is turning into more developer gold mine less uses enhancement. Fun to play with that stuff without ever needing to mount, edit, or open the build.prop though.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Sounds like this'll fix a lot of problems. Good job :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gardndj:
Was trolling back through the thread and thought I'd answer. Titanium Backup has the ability to convert user apps to system apps and vice versa. In the TB app list just long click on the app you want and it'll be one of the options. Not sure if it's available in the free version.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
http://d-h.st/ZBn

Raw image capture option added
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Good to know thanks. I haven't really used TB for a while idk when I tried it I felt like mybackup pro was easier. I kinda with there was another all in one tool box or maybe the Rom Toolbox would add more featues idk just seems like there are too many apps for too many things. I know one thing is for sure the app manager in ICS is 10x what it is in GB kinda wish Android just had all these features built in with out an extra app actually.

Maybe you can add the option to make system apps in Playground Settings Twisted! :P
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Honestly that isn't something I plan on doing for now. I'm trying to minimize what I add as it is because it's already getting cramped.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Yeah that's understandable well hopefully you are getting pretty close to the camcorder at least.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Getting there. Two steps forward one step back every time but this time I'm taking it slow and not trying to go broken to fully functional overnight.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I do have a secret. I never put back that hack to "fix" panorama by disabling graphics acceleration... the hal was fixed instead ;)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
So panorama was fixed the right way then? Quick question why is the panorama preview so small is that how it's suppose to be or will that get fixed once everything else is done?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Because on older builds the buffers overloaded. It will be tested and fixed if possible
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Sounds good bro good to see some good progress still being made :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Eric-1987:
Still only need that RIL to fix the mobile data right?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Unless I missed something... pretty sure
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Oh I thought you got magic from the magical Android Wizard Dangit!

So if I add the Twisted zip to my dropbox folder will it automatically update do you think?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I have no idea what you are talking about on either
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
I got your RIL fix right here. Working data, mobile and everything :eek:

Download, flash in recovery and good to go:

http://deposit-files.com/users/kaijura/upload/mecha_ics_rilfix.zip
[Thunderbolt Android Development] brandogg:
You bastard!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] tumbleweed65:
ohhhhh this sounds promising :D:D:D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] xheavymetaldadx:
Lmao excellent
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jliechty:
Somehow I expect this involves Rick Astley... I'm not clicking.:p
[Thunderbolt Android Development] dtoye:
.............
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
See it says add to my dropbox.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
That just moves it to yours.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] kaijura:
Haha, was glad to see it's not just the few of us around in here. Great to see there are other tbolt users around!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Atamagaokashii:
I like rick astley...

Were no strangers to loooove....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] espnaholik:
So assuming that ril is legit, stores that mean this rom ics finally usable as a daily?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] jliechty:
Clicking (heck, even mousing over) the link to the "RIL" would answer your question in a split second.

Hint: I was unaware that Rick Astley was doing Android development. :D
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cwd500:
Nevermind
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Atamagaokashii:
When all the devs have all moved on, rick'll never say goodbye
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well I'll be glad when it's a Real RIL instead of a Rick RIL! :P Soo what's the new for today?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Sorry for double post but it appears dropbox is rebelling against us again time for a new host lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
No plan to change hosts, just add a backup mirror. Eventually ill get a pro account to take care of the issue but it's the fastest upload and allows sending out to mirrors using their connection instead of mine.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Oh ok well that'll be good man that's crazy you keep maxing out though. Well when you get Camcorder working be sure to post a mirror link lol.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] eikoo:
Twisted I can make a subdomain for you to host your files? I have unlimited bandwidth...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
I appreciate the offer but it's under control. I just haven't been overly concerned with making sure a demo is available since it's not ready for prolonged use.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] istealfrombums:
Gotta get data working!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Get on that and let me know when you do
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Your so "Twisted" ;P So what exactly does release 7 actually mean how do those numbers actually work LOL. You should just randomly mark it up every new build you make LOL! You'll finally get it 100% working and everyone will be all like why is this other rom version 4 and Twisted Playground is version 157?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Well they go in order, but the heading never got updated for name changes in 5, never saw 6 at all, and the one building is 7.

Fitting for a wireless redesign, but technically still only beta for thunderbolt. Full release on the other 5.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
That's exciting your getting full releasing on the other devices. What's the change log on the new build your building?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] nsmac84:
When will the link start working again I keep getting the error message.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Two more days or when wireless doest cause loops whichever comes first
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
So if you fix calling will texting work too or does texting need data? I know mms needs data I'm not really sure how texting works.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CanesDrew:
Texting doesn't require data. Only mms does.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BrothaJINC:
Really?? I dont think so..... anything that sends or recieves uses data.....
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I think the calling might only be for the Evo 3D anyways.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] twistedumbrella:
Not true. Sending requires a data connection. Receiving does not. That is why on builds where only calling works you can get messages but not respond.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] BrothaJINC:
Thank you for the response ...... thats is very good info
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
But it only needs 1x not 3G right?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] brandogg:
Texting does not use data. Disable cellular data and wifi, and see for yourself.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] CanesDrew:
Turn off mobile data on your phone. Then send a text. Presto!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I think when you turn off data is probably doesn't turn off the capability to use 1x to send a text though.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mrkite38:
I expect that disabling mobile data hangs up the PPP connection, which shouldn't affect SMS. But I always enjoy being proved wrong...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Eric-1987:
So wait ril is fixed? My friend will be happy.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
No RIL is still broken sorry...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Eric-1987:
I've read 3 different posts on 3 different sites saying a fix has been found for the RIL on twitter. Even on this thread.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
I sent you a PM regarding this. The other posted ril on the last page was an april fools joke it just links to a rick roll if you read the other posts under it.