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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
screw this. Again, on the old tech networks (3g) i can understand their need to protect the network, but on the new tech networks (4g LTE... not HSPA) it is bogus because of the vast tech differences.

this won't do anything, but I felt better doing it. Just like when I submitted one saying Nancy Grace incites violence against innocents with her tv show. :)

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advertised/marketed/and sold as an unlimited plan (in TOS there is a rider that 5GB of data might be considered abuse) I show that I have 10TB of data available but my access has been cut to a point of virtually no-access at all.

What once took seconds to complete now can take more then an hour.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] epicstar1:
Rofl. Somehow, I got throttled for no reason. What gives....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] tampaboy1984:
T-Mobile throttles you at 5GB but sometimes you can go higher and nothing happens
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Jade Eyed Wolf:
This is why I don't really give a $H1T about LTE at this point. I'm going to be a stubborn ol' SOB and stick to my good old fashioned smartphone unlimited plan for as loooooong as I can.

Yeah, I know I won't be driving the fancy new "Ferrari" that LTE is, but so what? As far as I can tell, what's the point of having all that speed if all it's gonna do is get you to the barriers and limitations that much faster? My old 3G "Honda Civic" might not be anywhere near as fast, but those things last for freaking ever, and I can drive it as long as I want without a care in the world otherwise. Not to mention, as more and more people are getting off the 3G highway and taking the LTE superhighway instead, that just means traffic is getting lighter for me, and I can go a little bit faster ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
started blasting away on their FB page.

https://www.facebook.com/ATT

also did an FCC complaint
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Just as an FYI...change your APN to the HSPI+ that you can find in other threads......then, and I don't know why it works..call yourself on a different phone and let it sit there for a few minutes....it will stick to the 4G network. And you will at least get HSPI speeds. If I switch to the ATT APN, I'm throttled. I have no idea why this works but it has been for me. I've had to switch back and forth and call myself a few times to get this to work. And don't use Juice Defender because it disables your radio every now and again, which I've noticed puts it back on the other network.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
I just payed Wahida for a new skyrocket.. once it gets to me I'm going to get a new SIM and cancel my current contract/return my current skyrocket.

That should bump me back for a few days since the IMEI/IMSI will now be different along with my contract. :) We'll see.....

If not then I'm going to be weighting heavily on going to VZ until the carries get reasonable with their 'top 5%' numbers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Daedalus_:
Unlimited data plans should have never been made in the first place. Phone internet should be used sparingly and for important things you couldn't do otherwise, not to stream movies when you could have that pre-downloaded on your phone, or better yet, spend that $10 the data was worth to go to a movie theater. Physics restricts the total amount of data you can fit in a wireless spectrum. Acting as if a finite resource such as wireless spectrum is infinite won't work in the long-run. Data plans, by the law of nature and economic principles, need to be tiered and priced the way they are.

http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2011/06/truth-about-wireless-bandwidth-crisis.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] randomtask16:
While I do agree that spectrum is limited and that tiered plans are appropriate, I don't understand why the limit needs to be so low relative to the speed provided.

For example:

I can use up to 250gb on my At&t U-Verse service at home @ 12mbit

vs

being throttled to 100kbps after 5gb on usage on a 50mbit wireless connection

and that 5gb is based on the "Unlimited" plan softcap, they really want us all limited to 2gb and tiered.

It just doesn't make sense to me really, why provide such speed then limit it so severely? Kinda back to the car analogy, it's like having a mileage limit of 200mi/month on your new ferarri. Screw that, I can take cross country road trips in my old civic...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] groves226:
the soft caps and tiered limits are understandable... on HSPA/Edge. On LTE they are unreasonable.

like the user with UVerse mentioned... the sheer amount of data you can pump down at LTE (even a saturated network) means that those numbers are as obsolete as the networks they are based around
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] upyouratrix:
I just got my skyrocket today. Upgraded from my N1. Not even one day and i get the text about being in the top 5%. I used 9.8GB this month, all on my N1, and i average around 8GB a month and I've never seen a text about my data usage before. Not sure I'm happpy about this!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Same thing on mine..most of my usage was from my iphone. I averaged about 9-10 gigs a month on my iphone. As soon as I switched to an LTE phone I got the text within a few days, then BOOM 100kbps. Luckily I found a work around that lets me get HSPA speeds until i'm unthrottled.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] r34p3rex:
11GB this month and counting.. no throttling :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
Very true.

Just to clarify something with U-Verse, AT&T didn't have the right software and hardware setup in all cities to track actual data usage, so you have unlimited on uverse, just as I do.

Sent from my phone. :3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
You have to force the network mode as well. Just changing the APN will not work, though it used to.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
I was actually doing the same thing just as a test. I kept the PTA APN up for about 1.5 gigs, then switched over to the PHONE APN and haven't left it since. Funny thing, my usage on the website shows i've only downloaded 1.5gigs, though I know for a fact I've been streaming Slingbox and watching podcasts like a mad man. I have yet to be throttled this month, though I have to imagine i'm around 7 gigs or more. The last two months I was throttled at around 2 gigs but was on the PTA APN the whole time, until I was throttled and switched over. Doing it reverse this time around and haven't been throttled yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] orlandoxpolice:
I wonder if I could use the same apn on my LTE tab and go above my data limit (non unlimited plan) If it isn't reporting on the website
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] styx66:
Just got the throttle today, checked my data: 1.6GB.... So weak. I did get the text messages though about the 5%.

Modified APNs don't work for me. On quikwiz.

Oh and I live in Los Angeles
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Phoneguy589:
1.6gb and you got throttled? I think that is complete bs and they are going overboard on their limits. What are your u/l d/l speeds. Did they just throttle your d/l? Also are you on the unlimited plan? Sorry for all the questions.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
How many days into your Billing cycle are you?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
10 days left in current cycle.. 2.3gb and throttled..? no 5% warning This time. called att and they said I wasn't throttled.. said it was my phone.. i went to an att store and swap sisms and the att employees sim was not throttled....

manager came out and said they now have a soft cap right above 2gb without saying exactly what it was. also said att is testing no longer warning ppl with 5% messages and that's what happened to my account.. apparently they think not warning people will stop us from noticing we are capped and stop the phone calls they are getting.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
That's why I call everyday, just to piss them off even more

I was reading a post that said he showed different data uses for different apns

and I had the exact thing, online would show only data for lte, and not for wap

I know because my usage last month was 36GB, Yes 36GigaBytes you got a problem with that:mad:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
only way I could tell I was throttled even though att wouldn't tell me is if I saw my "recent usage" online my data mb was in red... not throttled it should be green
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] styx66:
I checked my data again today, says just over 2gb now. I bet this 2gb line is true. My d/l speed about 100kbps, upload I forget but not a lot better. On wifi now in bad service area.

I am on day 23 of billing cycle. And yeah, on the grandfathered iPhone unlimited plan.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
So do we have anyone that has been throttled that the APN swap still works? I have yet to be throttled this month (which is weird in and of itself) to test it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] brookfield:
Yes, I am using the 'PHONE' APN with no special settings and it works great! I was throttled at 2.01 Gigs on PTA and then switched. I am running stock (Rooted) so i have no network options. I am in a non-LTE area. I can switch back and forth between the 2 APN's just to check if I still am throttled. Not sure how long this may work,
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] waiters:
The only reason it works so easily for u is they only throttle on the lte network when using pta..

for us with lte in the area.... we need to switch network mode AND change apn
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] aeronx:
I'm running CM7, 2.3.7. I've used various of the apn's listed within the thread (phone, wap) and none seem to work...

Has anyone else had any luck with an apn that works?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Yup...I live in an LTE area during the week (D.C.) and non LTE area on the weekends. I can "not force" Network mode on the weekends, but it doesn't work during the week.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
Here in Dallas I can't get it to work

That's with both apns

Forcing the network through mobile settings, the service menu and the dialer code menu

No combo works for me....and on I have also tried every from available
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
Next time I go through dallas I'll check both apn and see if I too am restricted

The last time I was in San Antonio, the LTE wouldn't work but the wap did.

BTW sign this petition ASAP

http://www.change.org/petitions/att-stop-throttling-data-speeds-for-top-5-of-users
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Phoneguy589:
Are you guys using att radio or Rogers radio? I'm using the Rogers but I'm not in an lte area.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jvanbrecht:
I'm in the DC area (although as a consultant, I am in various locations, around it, VA, MD, when in DC I am on LTE, outside, it hops between HSPA and UMTS).

I switched to the PHONE apn and so far, while speeds are slower, they are not at throttled speeds. On the PTA, I am throttled.

I did a couple of tests, when using HSPA, there is no throttling, when using LTE or UMTS, I am throttled (even on the PHONE apn for UMTS).

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Here is the issue as I see it.. yes ATT is throttling, it is being done automatically, not by a person.

What I suspect is a massive technical failure on ATT's part, and they will not admit to it, in that the 5% value they stated a while back, the number keeps getting smaller as the old top 5% are throttled, the new top 5% data limit is set lower, rinse and repeat over and over, and you have a runoff effect in an automated system, which is why we are being throttled at ridiculously low data numbers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
did you guys see the link?

go and sign it, please.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Vman7765:
I signed this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jvanbrecht:
I signed, I also filed an FTC complaint on Tuesday.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] RipplingHurst:
Just got throttled today, here in the east bay area. Then I went to the website and check my usage. 2GB.

2GB?! WTF. I'm about to call later today, what should I say? What can I say?

Grandfathered unlimited, never went past 3GB with my iPhone 4. I'm using the Skyrocket now. Usage is between 2 and 3GB tops. Now this?

Advice? (yes, I tried to change the APN already, tried a bunch, no success until now).

I'm on the phone with AT&T right now. Got transferred to a department that handle cases like this. Called ABS. Operator didn't tell me what the acronym meant.

Update: Lady from the ABS told me that only unlimited data plan users are being throttled. She said that if I were on the 3GB plan and used the same 2GB plan I wouldn't be throttled. What?

So I ask for her to state the same thing in writing. She declined. I said email, fax or text message stating that I wouldn't be throttled out of the unlimited plan. She declined. I am now waiting for the supervisor.

---------- Post added at 10:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ----------

Update 2: I also asked about keeping my new phone a putting me out of the LTE network. "I just like my new phone and the bigger screen. If I give up the LTE, can you put me on a plan with similar speed as I had on the iPhone 4?" NO, she said, you'd have to give up on the LTE device to use a non LTE service."

I really not buying this out of unlimited = no throttling. Aren't there reports here of people on XDA with 3GBs/5GBs plan and they're also being throttled?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
no...which brings up the valid point of how exactly is this relieving the network?

5gb of use is 5gb of use ...they are just charging more for the un throttled version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
no, they are not throttling tier data plans

they want us to change or give up our unlimited plan, so please go sign the petition

after we get the number that we need we'll take it to the next step, so sign it NOW
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] RipplingHurst:
Yep, that's what it seems like:

Here's the wording the Manager pointed me to:

(AT&T Support site)

I think it's a game of chicken. Once a substantial number of unlimited users move out of their grandfathered plans, the remaining users will keep all the goodies, and will be no little as to not matter for them anyway.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
This is what i'm hoping for.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] GeezyF.Ladies:
ok so wheres the link ? man my billing cycle starts the 6th of the month and on the 7th I was throttled no 5% txt nothing and my speeds are 0.21 mbps :mad: I think music paradise was my downfall but anyways still ridiculous!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
How much data did you use?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] GeezyF.Ladies:
Didn't check
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Kenneth.Torres:
Question, I changed my apn to hspa+ and set my own internet and mms, will the data count towards the original att PTA apn? The one with lte? I mean I haven't been capped and I can get 5-7 mbs down and 1-1.2 up. Because what I do in my area I don't have lte so the only time I use lte is when I go up to the city.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Per my bill..its not seeing the data i've been using on the other APN.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
I'm guessing that means that trying to push the 5% threshold up by using the workaround APN is futile...

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 00mred00:
At all?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] orlandoxpolice:
This can't be right.

Let's all get 259mb plans then
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Whoa..I didn't even think of that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Just checked my bill online..it shows i've only downloaded 1058.38 MB. I streamed Netflix on my drive to DC last weekend which was 3 hours straight. I downloaded 3 video podcast that were at least a gig a piece...not to mention slingbox during the week. I'm 16 days in to my cycle and it only shows slightly more than a gig. I switched to the LTE APN briefly when I got to DC, for the heck of it, which would explain the gig....but switched it back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
Just dialed DATA from my phone and it shows 7715.9 MB. So my bill and what my phone sees are two different things...weird.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] cave.:
What I don't understand, is how can so many of us be in the "top 5%?" Maybe we're all consolidated on to this one website?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] orlandoxpolice:
it is regional
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
Bull****, last month I went over 4GB, nothing, this month, the second I hit 2000MB, throttled.

They are throttling us at 2000MB (note, not even 2GB) to punish us for not letting them cap us.

Well, as soon as I get my HSPA+ APN working, I'm going to kill the towers around my area. Going to keep re-downloading the same 2GB file, deleting it, downloading, deleting, until the tower can't handle it anymore.

**** AT&T, **** them hard. I want the FCC to destroy them, they need it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] orlandoxpolice:
idk man, i just read that it was regional. i have always been skeptical, and i dont think it is regional at all. i think they are just throttling anyone over 2gb+.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
Yep, everyone on the unlimited plan recently has been getting hit at 2000MB. I could always take my 3 lines and $200 bill over to VZW, at least they'll appreciate me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] motcher41:
Think again verizon throttles just the same. If not worse Thanks to network optimization. No matter what you're at if you're a top user on a tower n other users wanna get on they will throttle you way back.

And you cant get an unlimited data plan anymore I'm grandfathered in thank god

Sent from my cyanocrack using Xparent Blue Tapatalk
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
That's only 3G.

AT$T throttles anything unlimited, on any network, at 2000MB.

How is that top 5%? It's bull****.

Going to get this HSPA+ APN working, then use 800GB-1TB, and tell them they give me unlimited, so I shall use that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] motcher41:
You don't think they'll start using network optimization on 4 g. Everything will be throttled soon not just 3g n verizon throttles any plan unlimited or not all you have to be is a top user on a tower

Sent from my cyanocrack using Xparent Blue Tapatalk
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
The fact that Verizon encourages heavy usage on the LTE network says they won't.

As shallow as VZW MAY be, they are no where near as shallow as AT$T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] andgo23:
2000MB = 2GB
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
And Verizon doesn't throttle 24/7. They only throttle in congested sites. AT&T doesn't give a **** and just throttles you 24/7. Matter of fact, when you call Verizon and you are throttled, there suggested work around is "buy an LTE phone". **** AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] opencipher:
i've used over 7 gigs this month and I'm not throttled...though 90% of that amount was on the HSPA APN not the LTE APN.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Lnasty360:
Ive been throttled since oct 2011 anytime i reach 1.6GB boom throttled ive complained to the FCC and AT&T offered $180 to my account to either use to pay bill or towards a cancellation i then later complained through the better business bureau and they gave the lame ass excuse im a top 5% at 1.6GB which is bull**** because tiered data users dont get throttled so its not a congestion issue its a $ issue scumbags
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] motcher41:
Exactly...buy a new phone off contract...duh then in a few months they'll start throttling 4G. Plus the 4G data plans...joke!

They will throttle 4G eventually. You'll see.

Why do u think verizon started to use network optimization....to try an force me to give up unlimited data for a tiered plan. I couldnt afford a 4G phone data plan i use way to much not to mention i dont even have 4G where i live. Its all a marketing ploy. All carriers=scumbags.

Sent from my DROID X2 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
It can't possibly be worse than at&t.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Phoneguy589:
To me the REAL B.S. is the fact that I pay $30 for unlimited data. I can switch my plan to the 3gb a month plan for $30....same price, BUT I get throttled at 2 gigs when I'm paying the same as the 3 gig plan. IF, they are going to throttle, they should at least throttle starting at the top plan (which I think is 5gig) and just incrementally lower the bandwidth like:

1-5 gig wide open

5-7 gig drop 10% speed

7-9 gigs drop 30% of full speed

over 9 gigs maybe 50% of full speed until billing cycle ends.

Not....ok at 2gig you drop from 5mb per sec to .18mb per sec. I'd settle for my top throttled speed being 2.5mb per sec if I hit 9 gigs cuz at least I can still stream.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WIZARDfan:
There is no option for force change network mode on stock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] RipplingHurst:
Thats exacly my view. They're just throwing the anchor at 2GB. There's no justification other than force us to buy another product.

Its clearly not fair. We just need good t trial lawyers, that's all. And media.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] yoyochuckd:
Im always throttled LOL or so they think I average 25-60gigs a month!! Att can eat me! Send me msg about top 5% flip a switch right back to 10mbs down LOL. Keep on trucking
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] latinohot:
not thrtlle related...

but on the 12th of this month thet are increasing the upgrade fee to $36
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
I'm going to find out if that justifies leaving without paying ETF's, because if it does, T-Mobile, I am coming back to you.

HSPA+ is just as fast, if not faster then AT&T's LTE, is more wide spread, and T-Mobile cares.

Either that, or Sprint, and grab unlimited data.

Or Verizon on my friends plan, and get unlimited data.

Either way.

EDIT: Anyone know why the HSPA+ APN doesn't work on a T-Mo ROM? Pissing me off.