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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] The Odom Project:
If Steve abandons ship due to a Mod, I will be incredibly. . . Unsurprised. I have seen it happen so many times. Anyone own a device running a virtuous rom when the mods SERIOUSLY f*cked that one up? I did. I was on the thread when 2 different mods started flaming.

Another case: I started an OT thread for Acer Iconia owners. It was all just mindless chat about various things that came up in the dev section for our device that we decided to move to the proper section. Well because this one female member posted jokingly to me "this relationship is over", one of the mods went off about how useless our thread was, and banned anyone that disagrees, including myself. Since then, I've stuck to tabletroms for anything for my iconia, and wouldn't be surprised if I have to jump ship for this phone too.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mrpickem:
I must say I ran Steve's rom for a week or so with no problems. I had great success with it and no problems. The best part was his almost immediate support in his threads, unlike I have witnessed from any other devs. He odexed several progs and themes personally for me and went out of his way trying to make sure everyone testing his rom got the best experience possible. He was the first dev I donated to on this device because of his support and the overall stability of his work. I believe this is a great dis-service to this community in relegating his work to a mere theming sub forum!

Good luck Steve, I'm sure you can move on to another place where your skills and hard work will be more appreciated!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] qbking77:
Everyone should take the time to re read this. There was no reason for the thread to be moved... it was definitely development work. Mods are at it again....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maddoggin:
What they need to do is create a sub_ forum just like on the european sgs2 for propriety roms such as strongsteves which is the category they fall under! Sorry this happen to you steve I too support you bud, you brought something new to the ep4g that alone should be respected!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ace0603:
Once again the mods psst off a developer. I support you and all your work Steve. Please continue to work on the Epic Touch. We need great developers like you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
What people don't understand is that you can't just odex one framework jar. It has to be done as an entire system. I challenge jerdog to make the exact same rom. Ok.. I'm done.

Just one more thing...

Jerdog.. I DID create the ROM.

by jerdogs logic, only google should be allowed to post here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hotspace:
<getting_up_on_soapbox>Strongsteve...I'm running your ROM right now...and I'm happy to say that it will be on my device for weeks to come. The mild themeing and stability is exactly what make this a daily driver. I've never liked ROMS that were over the top in themes. I like things to look stock with subtle tweaking.

Steve, if you leave XDA, please leave a frowarding address...I will be following. I'm not a Dev, I'm a user. However I do consider myself a poweruser. If people need assistance and if I have the time I try to help them out. I'm very busy and usually have multiple "fires" burning. Every post I've read from you has always been respectable and articulated very well. As I said before...I need a forwarding address so I can donate appropriately.

</getting_down_off_soapbox>
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tomyboombotz:
Strong look at every rom everything is a mashup of others tweaks etc you had the hardest feet to make deodex stuff odexed that in it self is considered a different rom. Also did you contact the higher ups report him I would he's being ridiculous real Dev should moderate not some 10 year old kid with a power trip
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] move_over:
I don't understand how this was an original rom for over a week, and now it's suddenly not. Seems to me to be a bad decision.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Custodian:
Looks like XDA has bammed another devs work lol.....hawt dangit!

Sent from my CM7 Powered MoPhO
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bbedward:
Wow. I love odexed roms and his looked nice. I think it was original :/

Don't give up Steve just get off xda

I think I added u on gtalk if not add me I'm bbedward

Sent from my Galaxy S2 Epic 4g Touch.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bizarrogreg:
Disappointed

This is seriously unbelievable. Please define what you consider an original ROM, and then explain how what Strongsteve did was any different?

Every ROM developed ever has been a mod of someone elses work. So what you are trying to say is that only Google can post here? So much for an open dev community...

Keep up the good work Strongsteve! I enjoy your ROM and I hope that I will be able to go elsewhere for updates on it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] poppygt:
I think the mod was just cleaning house and unfortunately....threw away something brilliant and valuable. Please let us know if you move to another site Steve.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
Just post your work on ACsyndicate.net, or Rootzwiki.. its about ad revenue for xda...

they constantly say its about the developers, but they dont follow their own mantra.

also appeal the decision to MikeChannon if you want someone higher up to make a rational decision.

http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=335322

I guess they will be removing my kernels too now, since they are based on the source released by samsung.. especially the stock repack, since I only "themed" it with CWM
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maddoggin:
Hey steve, can you pm me? Id like to work with you on odexing my tsm port and including it in your rom!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maddoggin:
+1 on this!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ptfdmedic:
I have to say this is just short sited and insulting to someone who quite obviously put alot of time into his creation. Odexing an entire ROM is NOT simply applying a theme. Are you kidding me, I wouldn't want to attempt what Steve did.

Removing his ROM is insulting to the entire community. Please know that I support you, if that means anything. I have also reached out to a friend in regards to this issue. Hopefully it will be resolved is short order.

Something else to think about.

Not saying that we should put on our foil hats, but in my experience, when a mod comes out of nowhere and does something like this, it's in response to a complaint.

Anyone that has followed me is probably aware of some of the drama surrounding my Autism Awareness stuff. The mods never actually singled me out, they were actually responding to people who complained that they didn't come to xda to read about Autism.

All I'm saying is that it would be nice to know what actually prompted this in the first place.

Steve, hang in there man. You do great work and have handled this like a champ. Thanks for conducting yourself in the manner you have. You are a class act. :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maddoggin:
No one builds roms from scratch, theyr all based off of samsung or htc or whatever. that is a dumb excuse "jerdog" like I stated earlier, the uk sgs2 has a place for themed roms why can't we. And, everyone now days themes the roms its almost never a stock theme. Way out of line to move this dedicated devs post, pure disrespect!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maddoggin:
+1 completely 100 % couldn't have said it better myself!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jgonza34:
Removing Steve's rom is the worst thing xda can do imo it's the best rom out there with no disrespect to other devs but i've had the best battery life and no los with this rom and I just about flashed every rom made for this device and this one is by far the best it would be a shame to loose someone like steve.

Steve please let us know where you will be taking your work cause I'm a true supporter of your work.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cbpagent72:
A lot of the people in this forum need to get a life who cares if it's in the wrong section. does it really bother you that bad. I imagine the type of person that feels like they have to move roms for petty issues like this are not married nor do they have any type of relationship and this is their one opportunity to use their admin powers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fordmanck:
Yes. Thanks for asking though.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] T.C.P:
^ troll alert( the guy above you) :p, and also yes it does, also looks like a mod moved the thread??? but aren't willing to say anything....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cbpagent72:
just for your information, that wasn't a question. Look for a question mark they will being your first indicator that is actually a question.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fordmanck:
Then I'll play grammar police and tell you that you suck at it. Either way, yes it matters to us. Now back to my poor excuse for a life.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cbpagent72:
I kinda figured my grammar would suck specially when I am using a mobile device but I kinda figured that if you finished any sort of elementary education you can tell the difference between a statement and a question. By the way I don't know why you are getting so butt hurt I didn't mention your name in my original post. maybe I had just hit too close to home or somebody just wants to think it is all about them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] humdrum2009:
Arent all these roms originally created by Google?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Gorguts:
It's simple

The only ones with power are the other DEVS. If they support Steve and threaten to leave, XDA could lose ad revenue....and we've all noticed all the pretty ads on this site. If you mess with thier money they will listen, otherwise your breath is wasted. The Devs can start a forum anywhere, they don't need XDA, XDA needs them. The question is, do the other DEVS miss steve as much as we will???

Who would mess with a guy whos first name is "Strong" anyway?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
This is the same crap that the mods play all the time. They did this crap to some of the epic developers. Steve you have awesome Roms. Don't let this get you down bro. You have a lot of supporters on here that love your work. Please let us know if you are moving development elsewhere or what your intentions are? Thank you.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sfhub:
Mods should switch places with Steve for a day, then after the 99th force close come back and say it isn't original.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jase1783:
Wow, what in the world are the mods thinking. Strong Steves rom is the best for sure!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Thanks for all of the responses guys. I spoke to strongsteve last night and this didn't make him happy at all. I mentioned other sites as well. I also said there would be a thread supporting his work by today. Thanks for stepping up and showing support everyone. I know he appreciates it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SocialReject:
Rofl. Made me laugh out loud in class

Sent from the future.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] OrygunGal:
Actually, beginning with the word "does" indicates a question that usually elicits a yes/no response. If you look at it from that perspective, then it is simply a poor use of punctuation. It may be a rhetorical question, but still a question. Rhetorical or not, expect answers since you raised the issue.

---------- Post added at 09:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:12 AM ----------

No surprise, the thread was already moved to general forum during the time I was reading through.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fordmanck:
I was going to delve into that, but I chose the high road. Thanks though. :)

On topic though, 3 days now with no LOS on Steve's ROM. I was getting 5-8 a day with the others ROM's I was using. I can't explain it, but it was the best kept development secret in the forum by far.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daryelv:
I don't run steve's ROM, but I do fully support his efforts as a "ROM Dev". Seeing the work that he has put into creating a "ODEXED" rom is enough. Anyone that knows the efforts involved to created "DEODEXED" from original ROMs and then turning around to create "ODEXED" roms knows it's not just running a script and pushing buttons.

I don't know if this stems from the IRC discussions as of late, so I won't even go into details, but I think jerdog is being maybe a little heavy handed or taking suggestions or ideas from other people and letting those ideas influence him. To single out strongsteve and say that the ROM is a "themed ROM" versus a developed ROM is just outrageous. Nobody has a developed ROM by his definition, strongsteve has a ROM that includes edits that others are not doing because they're time-consuming and difficult. Anyone, go try and produce a ODEXED rom and find out how difficult it is to modify/theme it.

-Daryel
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
I would like to say I am surprised but I won't. Just move your stuff to rootzwiki. Don't let small minded folks ruin your passion
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
That irc channel is a joke and represents most of what's wrong with XDA.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skykc0401:
U people said it all !! I support steve!! wtf is mod thinking? Makes no sense to move/lock his threads. Why do u go lock and move thos useless and pointless thread? This makes xda no fun now.!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
So the mod has moved this thread to 'General' already? Wow. This crap excuse hasn't learned a single thing has he?

WE WANT YOU TO APOLOGIZE TO STEVE! STOP THINKING YOU'RE SO HIGH AND MIGHTY AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

This thread was put in the Dev section to prove a point and guess what, you bit. You were doing good but then you pulled this crap and it's unacceptable. Has this moderator ever tried to theme, hell, do anything to an ODEX ROM? It's not as simple as messing with a deodexed. You can't just change a picture or switch out apk's, change permissions and call it good.

If doing anything to an ODEX ROM, even just theming, isn't development I guess this moderator needs to delete the entire dev section. The advancements Steve could bring to XDA as far as working with ODEX ROMs could open hundreds of new doors.

But I digress, this mod seems to think this is iXDA - where we don't like advancements unless approved by the holy one.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I want to thank everyone from the bottom of my heart for your support.

Here is the thing..

My original goal was to make the NoCIQ, Hotspot hack, 1x3g mods flashable for people that wanted to remain on a stock odexed rom.

The problem is that odexing framework jars is not that simple because Dalvik checks for integrity upon boot. That requires copying over signitures from the original odex files..

Anyways.. to make a long story short, to obtain all of these mods together in one odexed package required an entire rom with all of system odexed in one process and in a certain order. I hope that makes sense.

My plan now is to make a completely stock odexed rom with AIO, noCIQ, Hotspot, 1x3g, and every other mod I can find.

One thing is for sure, it wont be posted here.

Thanks again.. EVERYONE, for your support.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ace0603:
I hope to see you over on the other side soon. I do not blame you one bit for your desicion. Give someone a little bit of power and boom they think they are GOD with an iron fist.

Please inform us over here at IXDA where you will go. I look foward to using you roms in the future. Please continue your development quest and Good Luck Steve.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Yet there is "real roms" which haven't been updated in over a month and appear to have been abandoned yet an active ODEXED rom is clutter? XDA is what we think it is but still doesn't make it any less idiotic when it happens
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kingsway8605:
I complained about this mod a while back for being too aggressive and unhealthy for the community. He needs to be replaced, he gets a power trip from being a mod.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Can anyone please pm me with a link to his two roms? I would like to try them but of corset the links are gone. Thanks.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tweeker404:
I hope there is another mod who can step up to the plate and do what is right here. This is truly outrageous. All steves work should be reinstated. The community makes this forum and speaks louder than one mod.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tublecane:
Wow - I was ready to return this phone before I got StrongSteve's perfectly working Rom on here. I can't believe this decision. Reading both threads and also the jerdogs comments it is clear he is irrational about it and if the decision isn't reversed its a joke. Although even if they do move it it looks like Steve may be gone anyways. Please give a heads up where he goes to.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lattisimo:
Just want to show my support. Steve's ROMs are all I will run. ODEX'd is where it's at.

And, if I can format my system partition and flash his zip then it doesn't belong in the theme section.

He made that ROM and it belongs in the DEV section.

Good work Steve! You have our support.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
from Jerdog - "Using scripts, like dexopt-wrapper and dsixda's kitchen, and then theming the result and packaging it up into a flashable zip does not qualify as development - that is definitely theming. If you created the scripts to do the above then that is development. Notice the difference?"

Correct me if I am wrong but its't dexopt-wrapper a "tool" .. not a "script" I really am done with this guy.

and this guy is a "recognized developer" ??
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] spencer88:
This is the same guy that gave me an infraction for calling a guy an idiot for blatantly posting incorrect information, and I called him out on it.

Doesn't surprise me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ptfdmedic:
Steve,

I don't think you need to justify anything. You are a ROM developer and that's that.

I think when we start dividing developers into categories or deciding their ROM is not worthy of the Development section it compromises the spirit of the community.

By rights, they should move mine then as well. I don't build kernels or do extensive coding so by this logic, mine should be moved to apps and themes.

So.. Please move my threads to themes and apps as well. I'd be happy to keep Steve company :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daryelv:
I think it should be the users that decide who the moderators are instead of moderators being "assigned". If this was possible then you would be my #1 choice. You've always been level-headed and the example of class on these forums.

-Daryel
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jefbal99:
I got an infraction from this over the top mod in the ASUS Transformer section for asking a developer with help regarding a feature on his ROM that wasn't working for me. I was and always am ready to provide log files to find out why my install got jacked or help the dev fix a bug. I PMd this to the mod, but got blown off, i now realize that it wasn't an isolated incident.

I've never had a problem with any other mods...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] KCRic:
So who's above him? Who can we address this with?

Jerdog has to go - and I hope he's reading this. Please, please, PLEASE act smart with me. If anyone needs to be banned IT'S YOU, JERDOG! If you really are such a smartas... guy, you'd know to listen to the community you oversee. Or are you a commie?

I used Steve's ROM once for a bit just to see how a custom ODEX ROM would be. Why? Because I've almost

never

seen a custom themed ODEX ROM with extra functions to boot.

So come on Jerdog, defend yourself. Be a man and jump in here. YOU'RE BEING CALLED OUT. When you make a decision you'd better be ready to back it up.
[Galaxy S II General] www.golazo.ca:
I just got a SGS 2 Canadian "Rogers LTE" Editiion: SGH-I727R.

I was trying to Root the phone with Odin but now am stuck on a black screen with a yellow triangle and a message"Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again"

Kies cannot see the phone and I cannot go into any other mode, anything I do goes back to the same screen. I did a lot of reading but couldnt get to anything cause I cant go into recovery or even download mode. I would really appreciate some help if possible. If this is in the wrong section please move to where it should be.
[Galaxy S II General] thracemerin:
Did you try to flash international (GT-I9100) firmware? This firmware isnt compatible with the GS2 LTE from Rogers. If you can still get into download mode or recovery mode you may be able to flash correct firmware and recover your phone though I don't know if its available yet, if you cant get to either download or recovery mode you may be forced to send it to Samsung for repairs which likely wont be free since you have voided the warranty.
[Galaxy S II General] Odia:
You should be able to connect the phone to Odin while you have the Yellow Triangle on screen.

Odia.
[Galaxy S II General] www.golazo.ca:
What do I load on the phone if Odin can connect? There is nothing on the phone yet, I just trying my first file.
[Galaxy S II General] peachpuff:
You're in the wrong forum, the i9100 has nothing in common with your phone and i hope you didn't try to flash any of the i9100 stuff. Maybe the att i777 has more in common with your phone, best to browse their section rather than ours.
[Nook Color General] Mafioso:
Hi Guys,

I'm planning to install my first custom ROM on nook color. However, I am wondering how good is honeycomb port on nook. Ideally and I know the right answer is to try it out myself both and find out, but I don't have enough time to try out both since I have to give away the nook to someone.

I have honeycomb on my EEE transformer and really love it...that's why i'm favoring for HC but still if anyone can anyone details pros and cons for both HC and CM7, regarding stability, battery life and overall quirks, bugs and performance, it would be really helpful..

Regards,
[Nook Color General] syph0r:
HC isn't really ready for the NC.. its very buggy and still has several issues running on the NC. cm7 is very stable and well running few problems at all. just my 2 cents
[Nook Color General] Jotokun:
Since honeycomb isnt open source, the Nook port is made from the SDK rather than source. As such, its incredibly buggy and very slow. Dont get me wrong, its impressive that it works in the first place. But by no means is it a daily driver.

CM7 is the way to go unless you absolutely must have HC app compatibility. Even if you do, we'll have ICS in a few months.
[Nook Color General] ponyboy82:
Another vote for CM7. I tried an older release of the Honeycomb port and it was pretty bad -- very laggy and a lot of stuff didn't work. Several people have said that it's not really much better even now since we don't have an official release of HC's source. I ended up going back to stock for a long time until I tried CM7. They have done great work, and even though it's based on a "phone OS" (Gingerbread), it's adapted very well to the Nook.
[Nook Color General] Mafioso:
Thanks for reply guys..

Actually I just saw some videos of NC running HC, so I got excited..didn't know it was that buggy..i'll put CM7 on it today
[Nook Color General] jacobas92:
HC may be buggy, but some of the lag that a lot of people experience is because they install it to SD and their SD card is a low class giving it lower read speed. And the default launcher is terribly slow and buggy. If you decide to use it, use a lightweight launcher like zeam.

If you're still interested in trying it out, look into dual booting it and cm7. That's what I currently have set up.
[Nook Color General] kwyrt:
I know this ROM was not included in your original question buy I highly recommend MIUI. I have found it to be incredibly stable and fast and the UI just looks great on the NC. I have tried CM7, Phiremod, and Honeycomb and to me the look and feel of MIUI just seems to fit the NC. Anyways, just my two cents : )