yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Questions and Answers] RVDigital:
I realize that the analogy I provided is not a 1:1 example. I will substitute "Branch" for my use of the word "Distro" in the previous example to better explain the point of view.

In reply to your post I ask, how do you explain the deep framework integration manufactures such as HTC utilize to a point where the removal of such framework from the base AOSP causes hardware to stop functioning? I cant simply accept that this is a "Skin" of the base, I see HTC Sense as a BRANCH of the Android base.

The point is, its not even close to Google's idea or implementation of Android. When you add things to the base experience, you're going to run into unique (positive/negative) consequences that one otherwise wouldn't with AOSP. Take for example, HTCs recent controversy over their "Spyware" that was integrated into the Sense branch.
[General Questions and Answers] Chirality:
It's not framework integration that's preventing you from using AOSP on your HTC device, it's the availability of device drivers. If HTC made all their device drivers available in source form, then you can just build these for AOSP and use AOSP on HTC devices with full functionality. The skin and the drivers can be decoupled - the skin may contain certain utilities that depend on some drivers to function, but the drivers shouldn't depend on the skin or its included apps to function. Imagine if Asus designed some special hardware that runs on their x86-based computers and sold a version of Windows that includes these special drivers that are not available anywhere else, then you have to buy Asus' version of Windows to run on these Asus computers, but it's still just Windows, with some extra drivers, not a fork of Windows. Of course you can't do this with Windows since it's a proprietary system, but it's done with Linux and Android, for better or worse.
[General Questions and Answers] aislepathlight:
Quick question: Do you guys think that the distribution of developer support for these phones? After all, the reason that most of us are here are because of the community, and its the dev community is what makes phones today great, and I just want to pick a phone that will have a large developer following.
[General Questions and Answers] RVDigital:
The problem is HTC does NOT provide the necessary driver source and thus it remains closed. They have taken an originally open source platform and effectively locked it down, short of closing it. I have a hard time understanding how this can simply be called a "Skin". Nothing about Sense is necessary for the Android experience, it's simply paint, wallpaper, and furniture.

It's like comparing Oranges and Grapefruit. Similar, even in the same family, but NOT the same.
[General Questions and Answers] vaxick:
HTC and drivers!? I'm having flashback to the golden days of Windows Mobile. :p Does anybody remember how much we were at rage with HTC because they didn't include video drivers for their Windows Mobile Phones?
[General Questions and Answers] Chirality:
It's skin plus drivers. The point is that these can be decoupled. What we think of "HTC Sense" is just the skin and the apps. There's no reason why the drivers have to be bundled with the skin, but HTC has chosen to do so. But just because HTC refuses to let these drivers be built for AOSP, doesn't mean that somehow these drivers require Sense to work. It just means HTC doesn't want you to do it. This is just an issue of hardware compatibility, which all of Linux suffers from. It's not unique to Android and it doesn't mean that distributions of Linux distributed with proprietary drivers are somehow new operating systems.
[General Questions and Answers] martonikaj:
LOL. Cmon man, its a Nexus. What do you think? :P The phone is made for developers to use as a reference platform for making apps! of course there will be lots of development for it.
[General Questions and Answers] chewbz:
Nexus because I can tell you first hand the nexus will run ics better than anyphone. My gf's inc2 is running cm7 with Pete's gb luancher and my nexus s with less ram runs smoother.
[General Questions and Answers] lowandbehold:
I really don't see how you can argue about this. "We", as in people who like to mod and hack our phones are the minority. Sense is absolutely beautiful and is a HUGE selling point for HTC on the mainstream market. If you don't like it get rid of it, and be thankful for the OEM's that allow you to get rid of it. If all manufacturers used AOSP there would be nothing to set them apart from each other UI wise. The average consumer knows nothing about the hardware except maybe the MP's of the camera, so they need something to sell the phone.
[General Questions and Answers] Droidmoder:
I read threw most of this post.

He is very correct. I have never ever had someone walk up to me and ASK for a ROOT NEVER. Never ever had someone asking for a custom rom. Never never never and probably won't.

The people come to me and ask can you make wifi hotspot free? Or can you fix my phone. I have to explain what rooting is and why it should be done. Most people get lost. So now I say do you want administrator rights on your phone?

Most people don't have the time, mental capacity, don't know or are too afraid to do mods.

We are below minority compared to the mass.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vinayjain2010:
Dear friends,

sorry if its a repost but i am stuck and can't do anything.

i am a newbie and yesterday i rooted my phone(HTC WILDFIRE). the phone is rooted successfully. but when i tried to install clockwork mod recovery it is not booting into clockworkmod recovery mode but in android system recovery. i installed a recovery manager software and installed clockworkmod recovery again. but after that i am not able to boot into recovery mode. it shows only HTC logo and white screen. kindly help me out.. what i have done wrong and what should i do?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UtmostMick0:
Dude , i havnt had a wildfire for like a year but if you go into a bit more detail i will try to help you out.....

like did u make a goldcard ? what did you use to root ? and can u get into bootloader mode (volume + and power)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UtmostMick0:
mod close thread plz
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Earthbrain:
In addition to installing Chainfire3D Pro to play Tegra games after you root, what else do you do?

How do you make the Note perform at its optimal level?

Is there any other things that you do after you ROOT your Note?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Earthbrain:
Oh by the way, how do you know that you have root your Note? Is there anyway to verify it?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] bv_abhi:
My common sense is telling me that after you root you will have superuser icon in the app menu if not there is no superuser
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ChodTheWacko:
download terminal monitor and run 'su', then 'id'.

If you have root permissions then id will show you are root.

I rooted so I can run droidwall (an android firewall, imho a MUST HAVE to block rogue apps), setcpu, and titanium backup.

- Frank
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Kibosh3:
rootchecker- simple app
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] adnan.makarevic:
remove all software which is not needed, deactivate tw launcher and tw wallpaper chooser and install launcher pro.. there is nothing more you can do at the moment.. ,) maybe if you want to customize the battery indicator..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] wendyalison:
Think you actually need to flash a new ROM in order to change the battery, even ROM Toolbox won't be able to do the trick.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] tdodd:
I rooted so that I could run Titanium Backup. Without root TB would not function other than to say root was required..
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] arva:
Another reason I would root is to install some Anti-Theft software like Cerberus so that it remains in phone even after factory reset and I can track my phone incase it is lost.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] AC07:
restore apps by TB from GS2~~ delete/frozen useless apps from ROM by RE~~
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] fards:
adfree ! (or manually change your etc/hosts )

who wants to use up their data on adverts :eek:
[Droid X General] BionicSniper:
My roommate has a Milestone X through chat mobility that he wants to get updated to gingerbread.

I unfortunately know nothing about non gsm phones, and as such am not sure how to keep all of the carrier information intact.

From what I have learned, a SBF is a base image that you can restore the phone from and are usually encrypted by Moto. Is there a way to extract that from the phone so I have a safety net?

I have not been able to find any information or files for the Chat Mobility Milestone X as it is a VERY small cell company.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[HTC EVO 3D] Keion:
OK, so the other night I was trying to restore to stock but I found the RUU giving me errors. I figured it out after hours of tedious work and here it is:

1. Download the latest RUU.

2. Uninstall HTC sync.

3. This is important: go into fastboot mode and using command prompt at the folder where fastboot.exe is stored, type in 'fastboot oem lock' without quotes into the window and press enter.

4. Run the RUU and follow instructions (while still in fastboot usb on phone).

tl;dr for more advanced users: you need to relock the bootloader to get the RUU to work

Hope this helps, peoples.

note: this only applies for hboot 1.5 htc unlocked people
[HTC EVO 3D] lchupacabras:
Yup...

10char
[HTC EVO 3D] 2ntense:
THANK YOU!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Stonko9:
is ther anyway i can put the HTC sense back in?? i took it to metropcs store to flash the phone (f**ed it up top to bottom)..lolz but anyways he removed the sense n he made secondary my one n only theme...now its pain in the a$$ to get anything to work..lolz thankx if u can help
[HTC EVO 3D] thos25:
So are you saying that you have tried to run an ruu and it did not restore the phone....?

an Ruu should definitely work.
[HTC EVO 3D] superman1979:
i will definitely try this..................

i have hboot 1.5 and i tried to flash my phone to boost, since i missed something i need to reinstall RUU and do every process again.

and yes i tried to just reinstall RUU it does not work! (tried fastboot usb too!failed)

Now i will try your suggestion jdeoxys

btw will "locking" it makes it unlockable after too????
[HTC EVO 3D] Scott:
This is good info! I didint know this. But thank god I dont have to deal with S-ON.

-Scott
[HTC EVO 3D] lmbebo:
Just want to bump this. Need to do this before I send my phone back in.
[HTC EVO 3D] jaken1913:
usb broken

My usb is not working i can only charge so i can not get into fast boot is there anything else i can do before i waste 100$o on insurance claim i will paypal donate 20$ to anyone who can help
[HTC EVO 3D] aiua:
i need direct link to latest ruu help pls.
[HTC EVO 3D] jpwhre:
Bump. Looking for RUU as well. Not the pg86img file but the ruu. I got this from ppc geeks http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/2154352-post28.html but the ruu is not available to free users.
[HTC EVO 3D] Danger Dan:
Download the ruu. Find it in your phone and rename it pg86img. Now reboot into your hboot and wah lah. Your phone is back to stock
[HTC EVO 3D] jpwhre:
Download it from.......

I'm looking for the RUU the exe file you run on your computer not the zip file for sd flash.
[HTC EVO 3D] Danger Dan:
Oh sorry. You can find it on Google if you search hard.
[HTC EVO 3D] Lady1178:
I thought on hboot 1.5 the pgm.zip file or whatever its called won't work. I am trying to go back to stock. i relocked boot loader but cannot for the life of me figure out how to run the ruu.zip.. that's all i keep reading ... can someone explain exactly HOW to run a zip file? i'm on hboot 1.5, evo 3d, relocked.
[HTC EVO 3D] laie1472:
If you have already downloaded the exe to your pc then just plug your phone into your pc. If you phone is powered on just choose charge only from your pull down screen or when the usb window pops up. Then locate the .exe-ruu you downloaded to your pc and double click on it to run it and follow the instructions and you should be good. If you phone is powered off plug it into your pc. Then hold the volume up button and press power and and the fasboot menu should appear and it should state "fastboot usb" at the top. Then once again repeat the steps above once you located the .exe-ruu on you pc. Also make sure you have the correct ruu. Hope this helps.

Locked & Loaded

""shooter on Deck""
[HTC EVO 3D] Lady1178:
First thank you for your quick response... so i downloaded the RUU.ZIP file, do i need to download RUU.EXE instead? This is whats confusing me because i'm searching and cannot find ruu.exe file. Thanks!

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nevermind i think i may have found one.
[HTC EVO 3D] laie1472:
Lol I'm glad you found one. Also yes you should be looking for an .exe.ruu which means that you have to run it from your pc. The zip file is for flashing the ruu threw fastboot. Hope all works out. Pm me if you need any assistance. Good luck.

Locked & Loaded

""shooter on Deck""
[HTC EVO 3D] johnsonjs:
Asked and answered.
[HTC EVO 3D] Terepin:
Do you know what RUU means? Obviously not, because you wouldn't be asking this question.

Odoslané z môjho HTC EVO 3D X515m cez Tapatalk
[HTC EVO 3D] phillip1953:
Did you get things going? What I had to do with mine was download the latest RUU (even though I had it on my phone) and execute the .exe file (it will be called "Ruu...(something, something with 2.17 in the name).exe"

You need to run it from your PC with the phone connected via usb in "charge" mode.

It'll take a bit for the screen to pop up...just follow the directions. Once the RUU is done doing it's thing.. it will have reinstalled the 2.17 version of the update. For some reason doing an over the air update to 2.17 screws things up.

Once done, go through the HTCdev steps to "unlock" your phone...assuming you're on Hboot 1.5 and software version 2.17.
[HTC EVO 3D] tycam21:
Where did you download the 2.17.exe from?

Thanks!
[HTC EVO 3D] mocoyombiflash:
Htc evo 3d ruu files and pgimg

HERE YOU GO GUYS :

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/2154352-post28.html

HIT THE THANKS BUTTON
[HTC EVO 3D] msh1031:
Will I need to remove my cwm recovery before doing this, or will the ruu take care of that? or does it even matter?
[HTC EVO 3D] jpwhre:
Because sometimes we have to figure things out ourselves without looking like complete noobs, I took the hard route. I can make it a long story but.....

I was rooted (second time on same phone) and the second time was a nightmare trying to get things to work, blahhh blahhh blahhh. I ended up doing "adb, fastboot, relock" and my phone rebooted as norm. Everything was like before, all apps.....

Anyway, I rebooted after that and it was out of the box locked except I still had root access with no custom recovery, and superuser was still installed.

Download this file like I did today and rename it PG86IMG (keeping the .zip) put the file on the ROOT of your memory card (not in any folders) and put your phone into bootloader (pull and replace battery, hold volume down and power). Follow instructions to get "out of the box" phone http://dev-host.org/ru0ow8ps0i01/PG86IMG_2.17.651.5.zip got the file from xda after bouncing thru threads.
[HTC EVO 3D] MistakenUtopia:
:D You're my official hero! No homo but I <3 you!!
[HTC EVO 3D] Sun1914:
Hey guys so I recently unlocked my 1.5 and s-on BUT I need to relock in order to upgrade to 2.17 and then unlock again. If I'm understanding this thread this is where I need to be.

My question is this there a file I can flash through recovery/bootloader in order to get back to "out the box" stock or do I need my pc?
[HTC EVO 3D] jpwhre:
http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=4

Haven't tried the rooted link, but the exe you need your pc and the zip you rename to PG86IMG (leaving the zip file extension name) and lock your bootloader and then boot your phone into bootloader and it flashes everything, image, radio, etc, etc
[HTC EVO 3D] Sun1914:
So I was able to find a video on youtube that got me back to Relocked. Do I have to delete any of the old files (recoveryimg,twrpshooterimg,bootimg) or should I just run the RUU? And if I run the RUU do I still need the PG86zip on my sdcard?
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Football has a thread in the roll up sticky in the dev section with a link to all the RUU exe you guys are looking for :D
[HTC EVO 3D] aledc78:
Hi I get stuck on step 3, I can get my phone on fastboot usb, but I don't know where to find the fastbook file where the fastboot.exe is stored. Please help
[HTC EVO 3D] jpwhre:
First we will assume you have SDK on your pc. You used it to unlock your phone using HTC bootloader unlock method for 1.5 bootloader.

You need to open command prompt and guide it to your sdk folder.

Put your phone into bootloader and select fastboot.

Plug your phone in to pc with your USB cord. It will load into fastboot usb

Then do the fastboot oem lock code
[HTC EVO 3D] aledc78:
I didnt root this phone, it was given to me already rooted with S-On
[HTC EVO 3D] jpwhre:
That info was needed, thank you.

First off google SDK tools and download it.

This may seam hard the first few times but things will come to you.

Pay close attention to where you install the program cuz you will need to find it thru an other program, and it won't be easy at first.

This comes to my phone as you post, so when you have sdk installed post here again
[HTC EVO 3D] aledc78:
Step completed!
[HTC EVO 3D] jpwhre:
Do you have an other phone to call from other than your evo 3d?
[HTC EVO 3D] Royalfox:
Which RUU do i need to use to have everything updated but be able to root again?

PG86100
[HTC EVO 3D] aledc78:
no... unfortunately...
[HTC EVO 3D] Royalfox:
Forgot to say I'm on hboot 1.5 and linking and instructions would be appreciated

PG86100
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
When you got the phone are you tryin to go stock to get it activated on sprint?
[HTC EVO 3D] aledc78:
The phone is already activated, i just want to bring it back to the stock state
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
Do you already have the latest RUU exe 2.17?

You will need this once you have relocked your phone because when you lock it will wipe your custom recovery...

You will be stuck in hboot..

How far into this are you...

You just need to have ADB ready while in hboot lock and then run the latest RUU 2.17 exe and you will be back to stock :D

I have unrooted my phone 3 times in the past... Also make sure you snag the right RUU if your CDMA :D Don't ever mix it up with a GSM..
[HTC EVO 3D] jpwhre:
If you want to keep root, but have updated rom follow this.

If you have apps you want to back up find appbrain, open and login with your google account, and sync apps.

You will loose all text so if you have something important like #'s write them down or save attachments to sd card.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1420206 find the file 2.17.xxxx odex is bigger and takes up more room on your phone, but lets you install themes. Deodex leaves more room on your phone.

Either one you download, do it with your phone and if you have a file explorer on your phone (astro file explorer, found in market) rename the zip found in sd/download to PG86IMG leaving the file extension as a zip.

You should have a NAND unlock, turn off your phone. Hold power and volume up, when prompted, select recovery.

In there, fallow instructions to install zip from sd card and find that file. It will take care of things from there. Re-install appbrain, loggin and sync, then install all apps in list.
[HTC EVO 3D] GrimReaper24:
I think odex is the one that is a pain to theme and deodex is the easy one :D Odex has two files through the whole build from I remember seeing if you broke it down.. Deodex has a nice clean layout...
[HTC EVO 3D] EVOBear:
Totally a stupid question but, uninstall HTC Sync from the computer? Sorry for sounding like a idiot, just trying to clarify.
[HTC EVO 3D] gav83collins:
try using a different recovery, which recovery are you currently using

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yeah remove htc sync, and reinstall htc drivers, just to ensure they are there in case htc sync decides to remove them for you
[HTC EVO 3D] RizzoPro:
Thanks!

thanks for your hard work (4 hours plus) on this...saved me some time and headaches!!
[HTC EVO 3D] texasbred71:
Saved my phone.

I was up all night and spent half the day trying to unbrick my phone. Was getting ready to go spen $200 to buy another one of craigslist. This post saved my phone and sanity and $200. Huge thank you. I tried everything under the sun and I believe uninstalling HTC Sync was the one thing I was missing. :D
[HTC EVO 3D] jareddbh:
Finally a decent download link

YEEESSSS. Thanks button hit.
[HTC EVO 3D] wbpo5l:
Unlocked

Shooter XC Ship S-On RL

HBoot 1.50

cMMC-boot

Phone just reboots on startup. Have tried loading different ROMs. Is this a kernal compatibility issue?

My wifes phone so just trying to get it back operational.

I have tried loading via fastboot also. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] sabkt:
Ruu latest

Can you give me link to download latest HTC evo 3d ruu, i couldnt find anywhere !!

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I need ruu 3.28.401.1 , please help this is the latest on htc evo..
[HTC EVO 3D] gesange:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2031811 go to my thread for 3.28.401.1 RUU EUROPE ;)
[HTC EVO 3D] jyubil:
i have zip file of ruu...so how can i flash it ??
[Networking] dhf9*&Dh884jdk:
So 3 weeks ago I cracked the screen on my Motorola Atrix 4G and I have the $10/month Best Buy Black Tie Protection Plan which allows me to take my phone in broken and upgrade to a new phone even while on a contract instead of getting a replacement phone and just pay the price it costs on a contract. I got my Atrix for free + $33 tax so I'm only out $33 if I upgrade my phone.

What phone do you guys suggest I wait for? I was thinking of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus or the HTC Edge (possibly AT&T due to HSDPA+) except both of those have huge screens, too big for me (4.65" and 4.7"). The Samsung Captivate Glide looks nice though I'm not sure what other high end Android phones are coming out on AT&T. I know the Atrix 2 came out about 3 weeks ago but I'm not a fan of Motorola.

Do you guys know what else is coming out for AT&T this year/beginning of next year? I want to upgrade soon because the cracked screen is giving me a lot of issues though I want the best phone I can get even if it means I have to wait a bit. Thanks! :)
[Networking] donsh00tmesanta:
GS2 skyrocket!
[Networking] dhf9*&Dh884jdk:
Thing is, will it work with current Roms?
[Networking] jtsurfs:
What about this one?

Not sure if this screen is too big for you, or when it is supposed to release.
[Networking] dhf9*&Dh884jdk:
The HTC Vivid looks nice, I love HTC build quality but I hate the small batteries most of their phones have. LTE on AT&T is nice but it probably won't come to my area for a while, probably at least a year if not longer. I guess it all depends on the price and when it's released Most of the really nice phone's they're coming out with have huge screens, I think 4" is the max I'd go, I just want something small and powerful. I think I'm going to wait till Christmas time till I decide anything. Thanks. :)
[EVO 4G General] psiklone:
i really want to get a samsung galaxy s2 or possibly the galaxy nexus if its available on sprint. my contract is up until april though, should i find a way to get a new phone or just wait it out? waiting is hard for me though as i see me friends galaxy s2 screen and its amazing!! the evo screen is just not doing it for me after seeing that =/