yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] searchfirst:
ADW is what i'm using now and am loving it for this reason. On my hero and evo i always used lp, when i got the epic it was go launcher. Even though i used ADW in the past i just stumbled across that feature recently and it is by far my favorite.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apacho01:
+1 for zeam on lightweight launchers.

Ics launcher will let you hide the notification bar and give you a taste of ICS at the same time :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] surveysays:
im using launcher pro and i do not see any options to use a 'swipe' action for custom actions.

how ever i do have my status bar hidden and changed my home key button to show/hide my notifications instead of showing a preview of all my screen which works better for me since im only using 3 screen :cool:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matridom:
long press one of the dock icons, you can then choose "Swipe gesture"

I do the same as lilmexx, hide notification and swipe up across my dock icon to open the notifications.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] surveysays:
oooh okay i gotcha.. forgot about those settings. pressing the home button for me seems to work better though & faster as sometimes it doesn't pick up my swipe action on the 1st try all the time
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darthchilli:
thanks guys!!

now my themes can get craizer!
[Huawei Ideos X6] dtbang721:
everybody know that our phone have a weak power hard button. And after long time used. Lots of device's power button become too difficult to pressed. So could anyone can make a mod for our phone to turn screen on by volumes key to safe our power hard button to live longer? Nice thanks!
[Huawei Ideos X6] Sergekarol:
Cyanogen 7 has this already.Settings	> Cyanogenmod settings > input
[Huawei Ideos X6] dtbang721:
I know cm7 got it. But cm7 still not completed work for our phone. And I need solution for another rom. I think may be a deverloper can do it for stock rom or Tj style by moding buildprofile or something else
[Huawei Ideos X6] dtbang721:
Have allready tried cm7 the volume key is still cant wake the phone up. Note that if screen just went of if volume key pressed immedietly screen could wake up. But if screen went of for a time the volume key doesnt work. Could anyone checked it?
[Huawei Ideos X6] CacingKalung:
Also in MIUI... just like that, may be because using the same code.
[Huawei Ideos X6] deathbearer:
i dont think its possible to even remap keys i have tried and failed...

what happens is that when our phone goes in sleep mode... the softkeys get disabled.
[Huawei Ideos X6] dtbang721:
The volumes key still are hard key. As we used it in cwm recovery I think it could be done by mod.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] samomamo:
Hi it looks like At&t installed something in the phone that checks what you download on thair network. It doesn't let downloading torrent with adownloader. This **** is going back to At&t.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] crawlgsx:
Even if that is the case, which I SERIOUSLY doubt, it will only be a short matter of time until we can remove/deter it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TechSilver13:
Bs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TechSilver13:
Stock Rom rooted themed nothing frozen or taken out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jake:
Two words ... chainfire droidwall
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AndAy224:
You also need to get a thicker tin foil hat :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dxtra:
I think he's right. At&t install that stupid Carrier IQ crap. My data has been on and off is like I can't visit certain web sites. Some load some don't. What's going on? BTW that carrier iq has been monitoring my network state so far nothing else. I will take a look at the service log soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TechSilver13:
What web sites are you having problems with....i wanna see if they work for me
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dxtra:
I think it's network related. They working fine now. But that Carrier IQ is there on our phone. If you don't know what it is Google it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] con_oner:
And this is not on the OGSII?

How do you check?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dross333:
Can Carrier IQ be removed with a DEV ROM?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] timmillah:
I do agree with this.

Try going to www.justin.tv over 3G/H+ and see if it works for you guys. On mine, it doesn't.

Then if I try going to it over WiFi it works flawlessly.

Any ideas/tips to fix this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TechSilver13:
Ur right it didn't work
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] milan03:
Carrier IQ in depth: http://0xfeedface.org/taxonomy/term/86/0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dross333:
On original gs2 I can get to it via wifi and 3g
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jonathanhtc:
What else AT&T want to do with our privacy or our rights to do whatever we want with our phones!!!???

It is true, mine have the same 400 error bad request at 4G but no on WiFi
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mbze430:
yes there is a fix.

Add a NEW APN for the old HSPA+ ; the 'phone' apn

the new LTE's APN (pta) is restricted on the AT&T's end..

it has nothing to do with the phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] samomamo:
This is in my account. I had the personal smartphone unlimited when I got the Skyrocket they change it to this crap
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mbze430:
that is the LTE Personal unlimited plan. The grandfathered.

tell me from the list of LTE plan you rather have?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] carlosd3co:
i agree. I'm not too sure what the problem is but it seems to filter sites even when i'm tethering (i'm grandfathered).

The issue is fixed when i hop on MIT's vpn (which encrypts all connections).

Not happy about this :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mbze430:
read my post 17.

PTA APN is restricted
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dxtra:
Why would at&t do this? Piss off. Calling them tomorrow. And If this **** continues I'm switching to Verizon
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Daedalus_:
I'm pretty sure the website is being blocked at the towers and not on your phones. They've always been able to do that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Longcat14:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, and you think Verizon is any better?

The best part is, there is NO way to get unlimited data on Verizon, so you'll be stuck paying for one of their expensive tiered plans.

But, have fun. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jake:
Negative ghostrider
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] donniesd:
400: Bad Request :eek::eek::eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] timmillah:
The only "issue" I have with that theory is that it worked perfectly fine on my ASGSII. I agree with the other poster that it's probably just the APN settings. My only concern in regards to that is if you change the APN will LTE still work the same?

EDIT:

I've switched out the APN settings, and low and behold everything works like it should. Here are the settings that I used:

Name AT&T

APN: WAP.cingular

Proxy: wireless.cingular.com

Port: 80

Username: WAP@CINGULAR.COM

Password: CINGULAR1

Server: leave blank

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com

MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com

MMS port: 80

MICC 310

MNC 410

APN type blank

In case you don't know how to add APN it's under:

Settings>Wireless and Network>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names

Hit the Menu button>New APN

Enter the settings as described above

Menu butt> Save

Make sure the green dot is highlighted beside the new APN you just created

Reboot phone

My area isn't an LTE area yet (Jacksonville, FL) but I've already confirmed with a local AT&T rep we should have it by the end of the year. I'm pretty sure this will "disable" LTE, but that's fine for now until there's another solution.

Hope it helps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] donniesd:
I thought maybe if being on the enterprise data plan($60 m/o) might remove the blocking and changed to the 4GB Enterprise Data. But still being blocked. :confused::confused::confused::mad::mad:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Daedalus_:
Told you so. Att just doesn't want people to bog down their LTE network.

Att is blocking certain website requests at the towers, not monitoring phones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dxtra:
Maybe they want us or you could say force us off the unlimited data plan.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Dxtra:
Heres att LTE data plans. The unlimited data plan I was put into are for enterprise users. Could be the reason why att is blocking certain access.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] HTC Chris:
I had this same issue when I had the Skyrocket, and I am a frequent visitor to this site. Thanks for confirming that it was being filtered.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] haroonie:
damn. this makes me livid they're blocking at the towers for LTE! what's next, youtube, metacafe, skype, ustream?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] gregrey:
corporate email

does this mean they are blocking exchange email accounts? I don't get this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jbsg02:
just to test I could pull up justin.tv on my mom's AT&T iphone 4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Kristoph:
I was able to pull up justin.tv on Opera Mobile browser, but not the stock browser.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Kadin:
That's...odd. I can't pull it up on Dolphin or stock. I'll look into opera to test.

Sent from my Samsung GSII Skyrocket (SGH-I727)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jbsg02:
It worked for me too, I originally tried from Dolphin Browser and couldn't get it, but opera pulled it up
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] gtg465x:
Because Dolphin is just a skin over the stock browser haha. Opera is actually a different browser.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ctomgee:
Also, Opera Mini actually renders pages on Opera's servers and compresses them before they are sent to your phone, so any filtering AT&T tries to do wouldn't work for specific sites, since it would end up looking like all the traffic is coming from Opera's servers. I believe Opera Mobile also has this capability, but it is an option you have to turn on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] CrowdedCranium:
CyanogenMod says never had, will never have carrierIQ. Just received at Skyrocket yesterday, swapped it for a working skyrocket today. Impatiently awaiting a happy ICS without Carrier IQ.

I did not opt in, cannot opt out, do not want it.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
thread necromancer, its three months old lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] CrowdedCranium:
Sadly all too true, and old history subject. Ignore it and it will go away. Roll over and play dead.

No, I think not. This Rocket phone out of the box was dead requiring a trip to the ATT kiosk and two trips to the service center to see one that works, and it has Carrier IQ on it.

I am more than a bit queezie at having Carrier IQ logging any sort of business or monkey business I am currently engaged in. If it is scanning QR tramp stamps or emailing my latest commercial success strategies in the stock exchange.

So, old subject? Yes, he asked I answered. Carrier IQ is alive and sucking your phones resources and the data you now have been throttled to.
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] wamme:
hello....i am now in china, youtube and facebook blocked by the goverment, please help me i want to open youtube and facebook on my samsung galaxy s2 i 9100 :confused::confused::confused:
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] kyleforge:
So much for having rights huh ;-)
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] DSA:
sounds like north korea...what a lovely world we live in
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] crachel:
try Orbot
[Galaxy S II Themes and Apps] alwaseem:
if your device is rooted, you can use GAE Proxy free from the market
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] reikableu:
Hi,

I am quite noob with all things android, i have a question, though this may be a bit stupid... though so far i have learned how to flash with Odin and how to root my G-Fit.

:o

I am trying to install the Deodexed XXKQ2 ROM Revamped (pratyush.creed), though it says there that "You Need to Have XXKQ2 installed."

as far as i know, and by using Samsung Kies, i have this, i know it is a stock ROM... (please look at the screen shot i have)

so, is what i have the same as XXKQ2? and can i install "Deodexed XXKQ2 ROM Revamped" without a problem if I follow all the steps per dot?

and will i be able to install "FITDroid v2.0" as well, if I currently have the DDKQ5 Stock ROM or after putting in the "Deodexed XXKQ2 ROM Revamped"? i wanted to try the Flash Player 10.3 that is said to work with "FITDroid v2.0"...

thanks for answering my questions...

It is greatly appreciated:)
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] raizen101:
So you want FITDroid on your phone?

1. try installing vishwanathptl deodexed rom through odin http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1190458 (for better performance on FITDroid that's what vish said)

2. then install FITdroid http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1277759 (tutorials for installing the FITDroid rom is already on that thread)

good luck!
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] reikableu:
Thanks for the response...

I actually followed those already, so i was able to install the Dodexed ROm, without a problem i believe...

But with the FitDroid... it was said that the first boot will take long... so im on that stage... but how long will it really take?

I've been waiting for probably more than 10mins now... I was able to see the FitDroid boot up screen..

It stayed there for a while but now it is just showing an empty black screen...

Is there something wrong already? or should i still wait?
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] reikableu:
DDKQ5 and XXKQ2

and with regards to my first question about DDKQ5 and XXKQ2, i can say it might be different...

Cause i tried it, got bored of waiting... :P LOL!

but it doesn't seem to work...

so therefor those two might be different...
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] raizen101:
try wiping the data partition and the cache in the recovey mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] reikableu:
FitDroid v2.0 Waiting

Ok, so i just flashed my G-Fit with the FitDroid.zip.... it may have already worked...

i guess earlier i missed the part where i have to get into clockwork recovery to flash the update.

now it seemed to have gone further that it did earlier...

I'll just try it to see if everything works well...

:D
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] reikableu:
Now, i just noticed....

before i got FitDroid and was just running on Basic Deodexed ROM, i see that when i have the wall paper on the home screen, i can see the wall paper from the app drawer, but on FitDroid it doesn't show...

so my last two questions are, is it possible to have that same kind of interface by installing a theme for FitDroid?

and if it keep on flashing different ROMs on my phone, will i encounter any problems?
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] D@rekills4:
Yes....

You can try the theme files from Deodexed ROM.....

Just replace them with the current ones by using Root Explorer app or ADB to get a translucent UI.....

Also you can try Flash Player 10.3 on any ROM...

The previous Flash Player 10.1 and 10.2 worked only with Deodexed ROMs but as far as I know, Flash Player 10.3 works with Odex ROMs too...
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] reikableu:
Thanks for the quick responce, though i was not able to follow...

With regards seeing the wall paper while on the app drawer, can you tell me what i should replace and what should i replace it with?

I am quite new with this so I am not familiar with modifying the UI myself...

:)
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] reikableu:
FitDroid Follow-Up

Well upon playing with FitDroid, i found out that the apps2SD is not working, it won't turn on that function...

it says something like, i don't have the kernel that will work with it...

how do i uninstall this app? or how do i make it work? :(
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] philipxtian18:
did you install XXKQ2?
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] reikableu:
that was preinstalled by Kies but i had to reflash my phone with XXKPL so i can have FitDroid...
[Optimus One, P500, V General] abhi29:
I saw a post in Samsung s forum, do this works in our op1

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1061883
[Optimus One, P500, V General] DaXmax:
No... Its need ARMv7...
[Optimus One, P500, V General] SWEATTAIMI:
it will work if someone like "andy recode the lib file that is needed"

but the chance that he will do it is ... 0 .:/
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timlobley:
Experiencing high battery drain on Android OS (25%-45%) is this normal for this phone?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qwerty warrior:
i know your join date is in 2010

but from ur question .....

welcome to the android forums

please post all your phone info

what ur tried - what it did etc

how long did it take to drain your battery

have u flashed before are u rooted

all the info u can give me and ill try to help
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timlobley:
Hi, always used sg1. Just got sg2 this week. On 3 mobile uk.

2.3.5

I9100neki2

Speedmods2;2 16

Xwki8

Rooted

Removed all Samsung account crap and sync. Email and widgets all on manual sync! Battery lasts 6-8 hours with upto 40% on Android op
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deleted member 4038153:
Have a read of [REF][Rewrite 26/10] What the Android OS usage is and what it's not.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timlobley:
Complex, but many thanks!
[Wildfire General] ukdevil:
Before I start asking my question let me point out ive used agile lockscreen and its no good imo.

Ok here goes I'm using stock Rom with a few tweeks on my wildfire but would love the sense 3.5 ring lockscreen insted of the default slide down screen so can this be done or has it been done and I'm blind and missed it can any one help me plz ?

Thank you in advance

Sent from my HTC Wildfire
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rolks:
where is lot of info on resizeing, but no info what firstly needed to resize to bootup? even if where will be FC on apps, must it bee boot logo? thank you.
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KeiranFTW:
What do you mean? To resize bootloader edit the images in bootanimation.zip and also edit the desc.txt file.
[Bravo General] theoctagon:
I'm not sure where to start, so if there's anything i left out, I'll be glad to clarify.

phone: Motorola Bravo MB520

stock: 2.2.1

current: CM7 V5

i made the mistake of pulling the battery during a clockwork restore from CM7 for Bravo to a rooted stock nandroid, then the battery died before completion, corrupting the flash.

i hotwired the phone, and flashed the above linked 2.2.1 SBF and did a factory reset, all caches wiped and the phone is alive!... kind of.

from this point on, the phone will start up while hotwired, but I get an error that the battery is not recognized as a genuine Motorola battery (it is), and there is a question mark in the battery indicator in status bar and in the charging startup screen (phone off, plug into wall, moto logo, battery charge image).

"/sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent" reads:

POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery

POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery

POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Unknown

POWER_SUPPLY_HEALTH=Good

POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=0

POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=Li-ion

POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=100

POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=3753000

POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=340

POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=0

POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_COUNTER=100

I bought a new battery, same issue.

I baleted the contents of "/data/battd/" and "/data/system/batterystats.bin" with no change.

The battery is seated properly, with no corrosion on terminals.

Is there anything more than can be done?
[Bravo General] Junkyardjames87:
Just for sh**'s and giggles did you try to do another flash with the 2.2.1 sbf? Might help. Or just try flashing the CM7 rom, turn it on and just play around a little then flash back to 2.2.1. Post an up date please! Others might do this too.
[Bravo General] theoctagon:
i've flashed the 2.2.1 SBF 2-3 times now. after encountered this, that was my first thought, having been unable to get RSDLite to give me a success response. the only CM ROM's available are ports of the Moto Defy. This one just has the working cameras. Stock factory reset gives same error as does another CM port by rdanner/josuearisty as well as bandroidx's ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] srprashant91:
hi,

i was wondering if there is an OC kernel for stock gingerbread rom (2.3.4 russian version).. anyone aware?
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] srprashant91:
Bump

No idea? :-(
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] barna0422:
There isn't any OC kernel for stock roms... if i know good..:(
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] qazsxdcfv:
no OC on stock rom.. just try custom rom and u will love it.. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] srprashant91:
Which rom would u recommend? I've used tjs cyanogenmod and andro-id. Cyanogenmod seemed to have a lot a of bugs and i wasnt somehow happy with andro-id.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] srprashant91:
bump

any recommendations?
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] dhendriyanto:
No OC on stock ROM now.

if you love with Stock ROM, you can use this ROM (emanon). This is almost the same as the original ROM and can connect with KIES.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1176927
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leandro_gama:
Hi,

Someone knows how i can use USB tethering, in Energy room. I look in the forum of this room, e try all that says in there, but nothing solve this problem.

tks
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] langthang:
Use PdaNet app on maket
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leandro_gama:
Thanks, is the opposite, I want to use the pc internet on mobile, without having to use a wi-fi router, and the phone will not be used as a modem or router to share internet.

I saw some people there have, but I have a few posts, as I could not ask there.
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leandro_gama:
Someone have an idea, how i can fix it??
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] AgoeZ:
You'll need proper pcscii.apk , htc sync installed on your pc and phone.

Reverse tether does work on sense 2.1 and I'm sure it works on sense 3.0 (new dhd sense) and higher. :)

In my experience native usb tether is no go on sense 3.0 (but I'm quiet sure it works on pyramid roms, use tytung kernel but it brokes wifi). It only works on sense 2.1. ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] leandro_gama:
Tks a lot AgoeZ,

i find the post that have this fix in energy tread.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jsaw_tab:
Hi all,

Lets start a thread to get to know whats the average operating temperature your tab. Please give information like Overclock , ROM and so on.

I like to know because i think it is running a little hot at times. Lets see whats everybody's tab's operating temperature is like.

Lets start with mine.

Kernel: OC 1.4 Ghz Pershoot Kernel.

ROM: Overcome 1.2.3 ROM

Peak: 39 degree celsius. (during 3D gaming like 9mm)

Idle : Around 27 degree

Normal operation: 32-36

Pls contribute so we know what is a average temperature is like.

Template:-

++++++++++++++

Kernel:

ROM:

Peak:

Idle :

Normal operation:
[Defy General] zed_fauji:
Any current update for defy any new app or ROM. :D:):eek:

New to defy :D:cool:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xcollector:
after upgrading the firmware of the Xperia, it does not work the camera, appearing as not connected, it already tried to restore with original firmware and not obitive success.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gregbradley:
Normally a reboot sorts this out....I suggest you speak to the developer of your custom rom....