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[Epic 4G Android Development] superflysocal:
I haven't mess with my phone in a while so please help.

I have a EC05 phone rooted with one click 2.5.5. What do I need to do to install this ROM?

Can I just go to CWM, factory wipe, and flash this ROM, or do I need to update CWM first?

Will I be able to go back (w/o Odin) by flashing a backup?
[Epic 4G Android Development] dmanp84:
No more one click w/gingerbread, be on the safe side.....odin back & start from scratch.....it'll be like a breath of fresh air.....air that's pure oxygen & makes your red blood cell count higher, giving you extra rooted & optimized strength
[Epic 4G Android Development] superflysocal:
So what are the steps to install this?

Odin to stock, update to GB, root, then flash this with CWM??

Once to GB, will I be able to go back to EC05?

I am scared of this spontaneous shutdown issue, like not being able to get a hold of the wife because phone turned off by itself.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
Video cam bug

I'm not familiar with the spontaneous shutdown problem. My only problem has been that the video camera is completely unusable. I rarely use this but was hinted onto it by a friend of mine with an epic that I recommended this ROM to, and I confirmed it was doing it to me too.

Go to camera mode, switch to video. Everything grinds to just about a halt. Even if you can quit out of the camera it's like there's a runaway process that's killing the system - the only way out is a full reboot.

As mentioned - it's not a super huge problem since I rarely use the video camera function, but it'd be nice to have that available for the few times I do want it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] superflysocal:
above is an example of someone talking about the random shutdown reboot issue. For me 1-2 a week would be a dealbreaker.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DroidApprentice:
I would suggest trying another kernel. I am pretty happy running this ROM with Shadow kernel 1.0.3 and the camera is fully functional with that, although so far I can't patch the sounds to go away unfortunately.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Nehpets:
Once you are in GB, you can ALWAYS odin back to EC05. I can't imagine why you'd want to, though.

The spontaneous shutdown issue is not a big problem. It has never interupted anything I was doing (so far, knocking on wood) and only happens infrequently -- like I said, once or twice a week max.

You can always get a hold of your wife after the phone turns itself off (if it does) because right after that, the phone turns itself on again. It's more of a spontaneous reboot than a shutdown. When I wrote my previous post about this issue, I was being too impatient and pulled (and reinserted) the battery before giving the phone a chance to reboot itself.
[Epic 4G Android Development] superflysocal:
thanks that is a big relief.

I remember reading a while back when GB first came out, with the bugs it had people were saying to take it back to sprint and hope you get a froyo replacement, so that is why i think you cannot odin back to froyo.

can someone confirm how to get this rom from ec05?
[Epic 4G Android Development] DroidApprentice:
Is it possible to successfully flash a newer version of this over itself without a full wipe and reinstall (maybe just cache and dalvik wipe and not the data)? Or does it have to be done cleanly each time or maybe using CWM to restore data?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Nehpets:
The answers to all Epic how-to questions are here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1009997

Just pick the most relevant video and watch it.

QBKing videos show you how to do almost anything step-by-step and he is much clearer and more knowledgeable than I could ever be.
[Epic 4G Android Development] superflysocal:
thanks, I knew about the videos, but wanted to know the "general" steps to take. I am on rooted EC05 with CWM 2.5.5. Would I need to :

a. Just flash this rom using CWM

b. Update CWM to 3.+ (the purple one), then flash this ROM

or c. odin to stock ec05, update to GB, root, then flash this ROM

I guess I need to know if I can avoid c or not.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DroidApprentice:
I was in the same situation as you. I upgraded CWM first to 3, then to 5 simply by flashing. Then I upgraded to this ROM in CWM 5 after a full nandroid backup. Data and app restoration was the biggest pain of course, but overall everything went well and is very stable with a different kernel of my choice. So far I haven't needed to touch Odin and don't see why I should unless absolutely necessary. Just remember to be as thorough about backups as you can and follow instructions like qbkings videos (wiping caches etc.). Good luck.

I would like to get direct feedback on my question though.
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
First off I love this rom, its one of my favorites! You most defenitely can odin back to ec05 as I do it at least 2 times a week building my own mtd roms... and as of getting this from ec05 if your already rooted do a full wipe (I recommend updating your cwm to 5.0.2.7 if you haven't already done so) and flash. Good to go...
[Epic 4G Android Development] superflysocal:
i am at cwm 2.5.5. Do I need to go to cwm 3 before 5?
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
Nope you can go straight to 5... either flash the .zip in cwm... or odin the .tar
[Epic 4G Android Development] rocket321:
If you're having video recorder issues you need to flash a kernel which doesn't cause video recorder issues :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] dmanp84:
Try (odin) kernel "kernel-GB-3a"....i haven't had one reboot
[Epic 4G Android Development] diptenkrom:
has anybody converted this rom to MTD? i was thinking of going the MTD route, but wanted to get some feedback, or perhaps a bit of advice...
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
There is already a stockish mtd rom ...
[Epic 4G Android Development] MДЯCЦSДИT:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1401345
[Epic 4G Android Development] diptenkrom:
sweet! i will probably go mtd then... i want to be ready if/when ICS hits the epic. otherwise i will have to use my upgrade to get something preloaded with ICS... but i really like my phone.

like twiz, but i would give it up for AOSP ICS...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dronak:
Thanks for this ROM. When I rooted for the first time, not long after EI22 came out, I decided to make this my first custom ROM. I found out today that Sprint has an update -- EL30 is going to be rolling out OTA. Now I'm wondering about how to get EL30 and figured that just updating the custom ROM directly would probably be easiest. xBTx, do you plan to update this MostlyStock ROM for EL30? It would be nice to have a version of it based on the newest official update. Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] DroidApprentice:
Co-signed. This is the ROM I want to stick with.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Nehpets:
+1

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[Epic 4G Android Development] blazinazn:
Sorry to bump an old thread. I was just wondering if the changes that were added are still compatible with EL30?

From what I gather, EL30 is just a "security" update, removing CIQ and some other minor changes. So everything can just be ported over to EL30, correct?
[Epic 4G Android Development] MightyDrakeC:
Sorry to do this to you guys, but this is the first ROM I've installed, back in Nov. And that means that the system update I'm being informed of is the first I've seen since installing a custom ROM. So, I need some advice on where to go from here.

I assume the update came from Sprint, and that I should ignore it?

This ROM seems to suit me pretty well. But, it looks like the last time the OP posted to this thread was at the end of Nov. Is the ROM likely to get updated to include the security fixes in the near future? Or, should I be searching for a different ROM?

Anyone have any advice on which ROM with the new update is most similar to this one?

Android Task Manager tells me that internal storage is down to 51 MB. Should I be considering the Stock-ish MTD ROM?

Drake
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
Yeah the stockish mtd rom would be the route for you to go if you want a rom exactly like this one... read up on mtd before converting though... and don't worry about the security updates... its just ciq being taken out (rom already includes that)... its probably best to see what roms pop up from the el30 update before moving to something else though... also to get rid of the pop up saying update (if you want to stay on the rom your using) just press install now... it is going to fail... pull the battery and reboot... if it boots you into cwm reboot from there... no more pop up
[Epic 4G Android Development] MightyDrakeC:
I appreciate the quick response. What you say makes sense. I'll hold off for a coupla weeks.

I had skimmed a coupla threads on MTD. I followed most of it, but there were a few specifics I hadn't come across, before.

Drake
[Epic 4G Android Development] flastnoles11:
Not a problem man... need anything else feel free to pm me...
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dronak:
I'm in the same situation as MightyDrakeC. I first rooted my phone after the EI22 update (kind of assuming no more were coming), and installed this Mostly Stock ROM. I just got the EL30 update notice today, so this is the first time I'm having to deal with an update while rooted as well. I hope this ROM will be updated, but I guess I can hold off for a while, too, and see what EL30-based ROMs come out in the coming weeks. I would like to at least get right of the update notice though, so I might try what you suggested above -- trying to install, failing, pulling the battery, and rebooting the phone in CWM. What are the chances of this process *not* putting me into CWM though? And is there an alternative way to stop the update notice? I thought I saw something for the EI22 update that could be installed or flashed in CWM to make it stop. Thanks for help.
[Epic 4G Android Development] DroidApprentice:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1461201

That's really all you need to do about the update. I'm running this and am perfectly fine until it hopefully gets refreshed.
[Epic 4G Android Development] moriarty00:
You don't need to go MTD. If you want to stay as close to stock as possible, just download the zip in http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1461377 , and the modem delta linked from there. In CWM, do a full backup, and then go to install zip, and first choose "pre-theme install wipe" (wipe dalvik and cache), then install the modem delta, and then install the ROM. You might get an update notification the first time you boot, but it's gone after that. And it retains your data.

Honestly, I miss this MostlyStock ROM and hope it's updated for EL30. I miss the battery mod (a lot) and the extended power menu, it seems like the keyboard lag is back too, and I haven't tested GPS yet. But I'm not the sort who's interested in trying out more extensive ROMs. If you're not either, go to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1461377 .

(And if anyone has any pointers on how to get this battery mod or extended power menu back without changing anything else, let me know...)
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
I also just got the EL30 update message today. Told it to run it, install failed, booted CWM, selected 'reboot' and it's back to business as usual - which I'm glad for, LOVE this rom.

But that brings me to my point - this ROM rocks. I know EL30 is just an incremental update (modem, no ciq, etc) but it would be awesome if the OP would put together a new/refresh of this with the EL30 build.

Pretty please, OP?
[Epic 4G Android Development] xBTx:
Hopefully later today I'll have the EL30 version up. Depends on how busy I am.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
Huzzah!! Can't wait :] Any way there might be a fix for the video camera issue (I guess it involves switching kernels - from what someone else said?) as part of it?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Nehpets:
+1 on that!

I think all the kernels have been updated since the last release, so maybe that wouldn't be too hard to do?

I'm not ready for MTD. Probably I'll be the last on my block to do it. And I'd really love an EL30 update on this rom. I've been on it from the very beginning and I'm still very happy with it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dronak:
Awesome, thanks! I'll keep an eye out for the update. I like this ROM because it gives me the most important fixes and some nice mods without deviating very much from stock, and for now, that's just what I want. Thanks for your work on this ROM.
[Epic 4G Android Development] xBTx:
I had already planned on a BML and MTD version, just for people like you. :p
[Epic 4G Android Development] MightyDrakeC:
Outstanding. This ROM really hits a sweet spot. Great to see you back. I appreciate the work you've done.

Drake
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
I second this, it's a great ROM that's done everything I wanted outside of complete stock - ccan't wait to have an EL30 version.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
If I could request one other minor (I hope) thing - could the facebook app be unlocked so it can be completely purged? It's a battery vampire no matter what version they put out and the market keeps trying to say 'Hey! Listen!' and shove updates at me.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dronak:
I never get updates from my Facebook app. In settings, I set the refresh interval to never and turned off notifications. Contact sync is on though. I don't know how much battery power it uses with these settings, but it doesn't seem to me like Facebook specifically is draining my power. Unlocking it so that it can be deleted could be useful though.

On another note, I got the system update notification again. This is a few days after I allowed it to try to install, failed, then reboot the phone from CWM. That stopped the notification, but apparently only temporarily. I did the routine again, which should keep it away for a while. I guess I'm going to need an EL30 ROM to keep that notification away for good. Looking forward to the update of this one. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] NoHousePhone:
There is a EL30 rooted and deodex try that you can then flash another kernel and the el30 modem. I went from this to that rom kept all my data.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dronak:
Thanks. It's good to know that can be flashed without wiping data. But if I do that, I go back to stock and lose some features of this ROM that I really like -- 1% battery mod and 1x/3G icon fix being the ones I see all the time (those and CRT off), but there are other fixes/extras in this ROM. For now, I'll wait for an update here, and keep the stock rooted option as a backup.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Nehpets:
Same here. I Dld the EL30 r&d but just as a safety. I don't want to give up the features of this rom that I like either.

Getting the OTA notification message again today was a surprise. I thought the install/fail/pull-batt/CWMreboot was a permanent fix. Guess not!
[Epic 4G Android Development] NoHousePhone:
You find those mods. I have 1%, hotspot, log provider,
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
Any word, OP?

Went about a week I think and got bugged about EL30 update notice again.. I've been checking the thread every day hoping for a new build :]
[Epic 4G Android Development] Nehpets:
Yeah, a week seems to be about as long as you can go before the OTA notices start up again. At least you get a week's break after the CWM reboot.

The other thing I'm noticing for the first time is persistent spontaneous reboots lately. I used to get one every week or two. Now it's every day or two.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
I haven't had the spontaneous reboot problem at all, thankfully, except for one isolated incident.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dronak:
About 1 week without update notifications is OK, but getting rid of it for good would be better. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1461201 was update with a method that involves editing the build.prop file. It sounds like it should work, but I haven't tried it myself. I'm hoping this ROM will be updated soon for EL30, and once I install that, I should be good.

As for random reboots, I seem to get those now and then, but they don't actually look like full reboots to me. The phone up time doesn't get reset down to zero when it happens to me, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on. But I can deal with a once-in-a-while reboot; it's a lot better than having to reboot semi-constantly like I did with Froyo. Gingerbread saved me a lot of trouble in that sense.

Edit: actually, after just getting my third update notification in about 2 weeks, I decide to try editing the build.prop file as indicated in the post above. Hopefully it will work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
I've picked up my girlfriend a used/like-new epic that was said to have a clean ESN, I plan to put this ROM on it when it gets here. She's been struggling with the Moment for a while, this is a hold over until hopefully the Note (aka Journal, perhaps?) gets released for Sprint *crosses fingers*.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NoHousePhone:
There are stock EL30 roms out rooted and deodexed already. Maybe you want to try those since they are newer.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
It's not just EL30, it's the other bits and pieces of this ROM that I downright love and make it a keeper.
[Epic 4G Android Development] NoHousePhone:
This was my first rom I used. I actually updated from this rom to el30 it kept the ad block. I wonder what else it kept.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MightyDrakeC:
I'm also seeing more frequent lockups and reboots the last week or two. And, the update nag has shown back up a coupla times.

I can't think of any way this ROM would suddenly go stale like that. I think it's more likely that some other program update is causing this behavior.

Drake
[Epic 4G Android Development] DroidApprentice:
I am just about certain those are related. The lockups have happened while having a signal source drop or change and then after the battery pull and reboot the update message comes again. Got to use one of the techniques in that thread about the update message to stop it I guess.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MightyDrakeC:
I'm not seeing that corelation. It's locking or booting about once a day. The update message is only showing up once a week or so.

Drake
[Epic 4G Android Development] DroidApprentice:
Hmm...I'm usually getting at least an average week of reliable uptime. Running Update 4 with the EI22 modem and Shadowkernel 1.03 with no UV/OC. Also froze a bunch more Sprint crap. You?
[Epic 4G Android Development] MightyDrakeC:
I'm using whatever came with this ROM. I know it's EI22, along with a bunch of Sprint stuff removed. Plus a few tweaks.

I don't see the lockups corelate with any particular app. And most of the reboots happen when I pull the phone out to use it. So, there's something running during sleep that's shutting down the phone.

Drake
[Epic 4G Android Development] Nehpets:
Same for me, Drake, configuration-wise.

Lockups and reboots don't correlate to any particular app. I keep the phone in data-deactivated mode overnight. When I turn it on in the morning, it's fine. Then, randomly, during the day when I turn the screen on, it locks or reboots. Like I said, I'm up to one or the other every day or two now. Today, I discovered that if I hold the power button in for 15-20 seconds, a lockup unlocks itself. If that's repeatable, it's a lot quicker than a batt-pull reboot.

I'll be glad to see an EL30 update show up whenever xBTx has the time to put it together for us. I have really appreciated his work.
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
How strange.. I have data on for my phone almost 100% of the time. I disable 4g because around here it will kill my battery looking for a signal and run wi-fi at the house though. There are times my data connection will go stupid, totally random (sometimes months between, once twice in a day) and the best way to fix it is to run an Update PRL check - which resets the radio whether it gets a new one or not.

As for apps, I uninstalled all the stuff I didn't care for - nascar, sprint tv, etc and only couldn't get rid of facebook because it was locked in for some reason. I can go a full day on a battery without much effort - moderate use puts me at about 30-40% by bedtime and light use can see it last through till the following morning on the stock 1500mAh battery it came with.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Dronak:
Obviously battery life is highly variable from person to person, depending on their situation. I run Green Power free to turn off data most of the time, almost always have 4G off, and keep many other things low/off to help save power. On a typical work day if I don't recharge, I'll be down at like 40% power after about 9 hours -- pretty far from the full day (16 hours?) tigerknight gets. I use the cell network, and the connection isn't that great in my office, so I think my phone is often struggling. I hear the beeps of dropped and re-established connections every now and then. *shrug* I've just gotten in the habit of recharging mid-day. Not ideal, but I'd rather do that than risk the battery being fully drained before I even get home (if I'm using the phone a bit more than usual).

Back to this ROM, I agree with Nehpets -- I'm looking forward to the update when xBTx is able to put it together. A little question: I noticed in another thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1463294) that the hotspot hack interferes with the volume rocker mod and power menu mod, at least for EL30, so they weren't provided as separate zip downloads in that thread. Is that going to affect what mods are included in the Mostly Stock ROM? Personally, I don't use my phone as a hotspot, so I think I'd rather have the volume and power mods if I had to choose, but others might be different. Just curious about features/mods what we might be looking forward to in an update. Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] MightyDrakeC:
I've always been a huge fan of the quick-change batteries. I always have one sitting in a charger. That way, if I'm about to walk out the door and my phone is at all down on charge, it only takes a few seconds to shut it down and swap them out. I'm currently working from home, but if I went into an office, I'd have a second charger there. They're very inexpensive, and well worth the convenience.

Drake
[Epic 4G Android Development] tigerknight:
I just picked up a 3500mAh battery and back cover which should be arriving any day. I CAN last through the whole day if I'm sparing with app and screen usage, but it'd be nice to not have to be so wary of every little thing running on my phone. The bulk of the battery isn't going to be an issue - I can palm a basketball :P the double size battery will only make it easier to grip.

What I'm really wanting to see is the Galaxy note to come out (hopefully the 'Journal' on Sprint) sometime this year. It's the only thing that makes me even remotely want to give up my awesome Epic and the keyboard.
[Epic 4G Android Development] MightyDrakeC:
Yeah, I have a pair of 3500 mAh batteries. I had to buy a different charger because the larger battery only fits in one way. I've gotten used to the larger size, so it feels weird to work with my mom's phone, with the original battery.

I can't remember the last time I used the keyboard. I use Swype for 98% of my input and the virtual keyboard for everything else. I can't stand typing on my girlfriend's iPhone, but the haptic feedback on the Epic seems to work better for me.

Anyway, sorry to hijack the thread. But the battery charger is *so* convenient, and a lot of people haven't looked it up to find out that it's only about $20 through Amazon. Well worth the money.

Drake