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[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
well you cant flash a froyo voodoo kenel on a gingerbread rom and vice versa. Thats most likely was your problem. In the op you posted geewiz 1.1.1, which is a froyo rom and I gave you a 2 froyo voodoo kernels that will work. Now you post saying the tks kernel flashed and booted fine meaning you are on geewiz 2.x ei20 gingerbread. In order to get accurate answers it helps to provide accurate information.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rsswga:
im running geewuz 2...eI20 ec09 modem...stock gee kernel ..
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laureanop:
Make double sure you're matching roms with the right kernels. Wipe dalvik before flashing. Also, make sure you're running a reliable recovery

tsm res1.2, TKSGB 11-06, lag fix
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
I understand that...was just saying why you got stuck at the samsung screen lastnight. If your on eh09/ei20gb then tks kernel or imoseyon's lean kernel are your other 2 options.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rsswga:
Ok thanks
[Motorola Atrix 2] turbopk:
Hey guys I just got my Atrix2 and I was wondering if anyone was running into this same deal with their phones and possibly knew how to by-pass it.

Basically after I perform a voice search command, usually "Navigate to ________ ) it will find the location no problem and I'm good to go. However when I close the navigator the voice search is there to greet me with a "Did you mean... Navigate to ______ " I clearly found my location and did my duties, its a minor annoyance being greeted with that afterwards. Is there a way to stop this feature? I tried talking with the most enunciated voice to see if maybe it didn't recognize my voice, and it did the same thing. Thanks for any input!

Regards~!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
So I would like to know if anyone out there besides me has not rooted their phone yet and if not, have you gotten the LOS bug?

I had purchased an E4GT when it came out and ran it stock for about a week. Did not have on LOS. Then decided to root it and within 12 hours I had an LOS. Within another 12 hours I got another one. Nothing in my use had changed and it happened in my house both times so it was not like I was in another situation that I have not been in.

I exhanged the phone for another one and obviously did not root it this time around. It has been over a month now and I have yet to get an LOS. I have traveled in areas where there is no Sprint service, through farmlands, etc. My phone roams fine. I have been on 3G, 4G, wifi, and an airave and there is nothing that will give my phone an LOS.

I also have a friend who owns the phone and I refuse to root his because he also never got an LOS since release day and I would be willing to bet if I rooted it one would show up not long after.

This is not to bring out the haters but I want to hear from people who have never rooted their phone. Not the ones who rooted then re-installed stock. I am sure we will also get some liars in here but I usually can pick out the trolls.

This is for true LOS, not that your internet connection wasn't working or your calls went straight to VM. I have had things like that happen for years already on all of my past phones.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Jesse Buck:
Never rooted, never had LOS. Damn do I miss wifi tether.

You have been Epicly Touched by Jesse Buck
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cidica:
Yes I'm not rooted and I have gotten LOS. Not as of late (for over the last week) but I've had 4 total the 4th one I really can't blame the phone or Sprint since everyone at the time that was/is on sprint was having the issue (20+ people I go to school with)

Outside of that I've not had an issue as of late but yes I've never been rooted and I've had LOS as have other people in this forum as well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
I do not have LOS with Chris41g's kernel.

My brother who is completely stock/never rooted gets LOS from time to time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Khilbron:
Never rooted, and no LoS for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
How long have you ran that kernel for?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Couple of weeks. I find the newer versions are better than the old.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] _MetalHead_:
I haven't rooted yet and I haven't had a single LOS since I got the phone on release day. That's the only reason why I haven't rooted, I'm afraid that if I do then I will start getting LOS. I wish there was a root method that didn't involve flashing anything, then I would pull the trigger on it. But for now, tethering and adfree are not a compelling enough reason for me to root and deal with the risk of LOS. I see no reason to flash a custom ROM or kernel on this phone seeing as though it is fast as hell and butter smooth the way it is. I would like to delete some crap from it though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
Totolly Agree and feel exaclty the same way. Although, even with the crap on it their really is no negative effect on the phone at all.

I am willing to say that almost everyone that has rooted their phone has seen an LOS where the ones that never did will most likely never see one.

Everyone is *****ing about Samsung that really is more of a rooting issue and not a manufacturing issue. I hope this gets sorted out and whatever Samsung updates will fix the issue with root. I can hold off for now but once an ICS Rom hits, it is going to be much harder!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Had this phone since launch and haven't rooted yet. No LOS at all. Phone goes on roaming and out just fine. First phone I have had stock but this phone is a beast. Will root once the LOS is solved or there is a rom that I can't wait for.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Skorpion56:
I got the phone on launch day, LOS (stock) started on day 3. Rooting didnt help. Took it back for a replacement and havent had LOS at all... I rooted/added CWM yesterday, no issues. BUT, I havent flashed a rom yet, and I wont until this "update" is out...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] spencer88:
I was stock until 2 weeks ago, and I've had the phone since one week after it came out. On stock, I had LOS 1 time. After I rooted just two weeks ago, I've had it 2 or 3 times.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AbsolutZeroGI:
If it were a rooting issue and not a manufacturing issue, then why is the manufacturer admitting that it's a manufacturing issue and releasing an update to fix the manufacturing issue? If it were a rooting issue, they'd have said "don't root and you won't have the problem".

I didn't root at first for fear of LOS, then I got it twice on the 4th day after release so I rooted anyway. Got it 1-2 times a day for a few weeks. Started running chris41g's lostkernel and now I get it once every two days to once a day tops.

Can't wait for Samsung to fix their stock problem :) at least they're on it this time and not screwing us like the epic 4g...which just got gingerbread i heard.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kiwiBeans:
Not rooted, have had the phone since the week it launched - experienced LOS ONCE while in my house on the couch where I use the phone a lot. Haven't seen it since. I really, really miss being rooted mainly due to wifi tether and hiding annoying ads but I think the biggest thing right now is the effing camera click sounds.

I really wish there was a simple, straightforward root process that just "unlocked" the phone without really changing anything. Is such a thing even in process? Until then, I'm likely not going to do jack because LOS problems would be a ***** compared to the annoying camera clicks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wingzfan:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1269890

17 page thread with all types of users reporting it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] andygallo:
Flashing may trigger LOS, but it is not the root cause (no pun intended). My phone is bone stock and had LOS bug pretty bad. Even happened in a Sprint store while I was showing them.

CS had me do a data profile clear/re-update and all has been good since.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] seven30:
If you think rooting is the cause of LOS you're wrong, plain and simple. Some kernels may cause it to happen more often however. I had it 4 or 5 times when stock. I'm rooted now with chris41g's stock pulled w/cwm5 kernel and haven't had LOS since. I won't be surprised if I get LOS again, but it's definitely not because I rooted my phone. It's a problem right out of the box
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Once again, root (su binaries and busy box, typically) DOES NOT CAUSE LOS.

The phones can get LOS bone stock. Mine did.

Custom kernels seem to exacerbate the problem...though new kernels seem to have figured it out. (current kernel is over a week in use with no LOS...as good as stock)

You can have root with a stock kernel.

You can debate LOS occurrence frequency differences between stock and custom kernels but please get your terminology straightened out. All of this is causing the conversation to always turn into a debate into an argument, every time and scaring people who want to root...and them the conversation comes back, the cycle persists and just gets louder every time.

Get your terminology straight...

...root has nothing to do with this. Period.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kiwiBeans:
Thank you - that is what I was wondering. I understand what you're saying about rooting not being the cause of LOS but, as you said yourself, some of the kernels used to root these phones seem to exacerbate the problem. There are a few different camps of thinking here and one of them is the group that almost never or never experienced LOS out of the box. To them, the link between rooting and seemingly more frequent occurrences of LOS is enough to make them hesitate to root. Another group are those that experienced LOS already and maybe have nothing to lose to rooting and seeing what happens. I can tell you that, having experienced only one LOS since launch on a stock GS2, if I were to root today and experience LOS tomorrow I'd just have to link the two.

I'm not very knowledgeable on the rooting process but I have rooted almost every android phone I've ever had: Hero, EVO, Photon. ... I'll have to read up on which of the latest root methods for this phone seem to be the best as far as not experiencing LOS and maybe I'll just give it a whirl and see. If nothing else, it'll add to the body of knowledge and experience for this phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] poppygt:
I'm a month into ownership and still no LOS. Been rooted on and off for 3 weeks and have run both types of LoStKernel and the Stock Pulled Kernel. I've flashed back to completely stock unrooted twice to have a clean slate to work with. No issues yet.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sling:
Same here.

I purchased mine on release day nothing but smooth sailing.

When patch becomes available root will take place shortly after.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bondosho:
I was unrooted for a long time, and never once got LOS (had the phone since day 1). I'm using Chris's LOStKernel now with root, and still haven't gotten it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MadFlava:
Im unrooted and Im getting LoS. Ive had two phones and both had LoS.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chasoo:
Stock. LoS twice today.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wolverinex66:
Have had my touch since october 16th, and have NEVER had even one Los. love this phone

Peace:-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Just_s:
My wife's E4GT is completely stock with less than 10 apps installed.

Mine is rooted since day one.

Hers has at least 3 times as many LOS incidents as mine on the average of 2 per day. I have a couple per week.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cobraboy85:
Based upon user reports it is clearly safe to say that rooting has nothing to do with LOS. It is hit or miss either way, which points to hardware related issues (POSSIBLY software)….

It is also possible that some of the phones, when loading the software packages, a certain number of them were corrupted in the same manner, which would also explain some people having the issue (assuming it is software related) and some people not having it.

What would be interesting is for somebody here who has had the phone since launch day and never had LOS, make a mirror of their device and have users who have experienced LOS or have it regularly run a mirror of the other device on their phone.

This would pinpoint 100% cause of the issue… hardware, or software. If the person(s) LOS bug mysteriously disappears, it is software related… if it does not go away, it is clearly the hardware on that device running the mirror.

Somebody should try to do this…
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
One more time.

Having root user access DOES NOT AND WILL NOT give you Loss Of Service

Custom kernels seem to exacerbate the occurrence of LOS

The newer custom kernel with adjusted build parameters seem to be working perfectly.

Stock phones get LOS.

You do not need to use a custom kernel to have root access.

If you use a custom kernel and get LOS YOU CAN GO BACK TO STOCK AND KEEP ROOT.

If after you return to stock you still have LOS then you would have had one EVEN IF YOU STAYED STOCK.

The term "root" means to have root user access....root is the super-administrator of your phone. It means to have admin rights.

To "root" a phone means to do something to gain root access. We get that via privilege escalation thanks to the SU (super-user) app.

The old custom kernels were the source of LOS problems.

You can flash, via ODIN, a system image with the SU app already installed and not change the stock kernel. This gives you "root access" to your system with no downsides. There are no ifs ands or buts about it. This does nothing that cannot be reversed. Easily.

Different phones have different methods of getting SU and friends onto the phone. Some use a flash exploit, browser exploit, some you just flash an update.zip, some you just use a download mode.

Originally we had "rooted" kernels that automatically granted super-user permissions...and these were custom kernels built from Samsung's source. That is likely where the bull-crap "if you root you get LOS" confusion came from...then we just used the rooted kernels to get SU onto the phone and then put the stock kernel back and everything was as good as stock but with root user access.

That's it. Period. The end. End of story. I can confirm that the custom kernels were increasing LOS frequency, sometimes horribly for some people. I can also confirm that flashing the stock kernel back (while rooted) eliminated the LOS to an "as good as bone stock" level. For some people that means none, for others it means fewer. Some people are screwed either way and only found salvation via the LoStkernel.

...discuss this all you want. Just stop thinking that having root user access is causing LOS. That is simply false and is scaring people who want to root, for no good reason.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Unfortunately, God himself could come down and tell someone they're wrong and it wouldn't change a thing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong. I guess I did come across a bit ranty. I'm just upset that so many people are now scared to death to root their phones because of an improper use or understanding of terminology.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Well, the fact is that Sprint/Samsung admit the issue and XDA devs have said 8483737834848 times that rooting is not the cause yet people ignore this and continue to believe otherwise .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] difrent7:
Got phone 2 days after release day haven't rooted yet and no LOS. I have areas at school where i completely lose service but as soon as i leave those areas get service back right away without me having to do anything.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RobbyRob:
No root no los issues. Have had the phone 2 weeks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
I have yet to see Samsung put out an announcement acknowledging an LOS issue. A sprint forum thread is far from an official acknowledgment.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cobraboy85:
Not trying to cause a stir… but this thread is now useless. If you people think you are not having LOS simply because you are not rooted, you are wrong. It has nothing to do with that.

Bottom line – LOS is a random occurrence on these phones. Rooted or not. I have had it once since I bought the phone on Monday, rooted it Tuesday night, had LOS issue yesterday, but when I put it back to stock yesterday, then rooted immediately after, haven’t had a problem today. And I am in a low service area here at work.

The issue is random. Some devices get it, some don’t. Some more than others. People who are constantly having the issue need to try the method posted on the previous page to see if that gets rid of the issue. If I get another LOS, I will try it and see if it works. But since I am running a new rom, and since I flashed back to stock via odin, etc etc… there are parameters on the phone that have changed and I don’t want to try to fix it if it isn’t broken.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maddmatt02:
had the phone about 2 weeks.

stock -> LOS

rooted stock -> LOS

zedomax-> LOS

viperrom/LoStkernel-> LOS

I guess my phone just sucks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Just_s:
Sprint provided me with a $100 credit for my LOS issues and not only acknowledged that there was an issue, but also acknowledged that Samsung was aware and that they have confirmed that they would release a software update to deal with "this bug and a few other small issues." In fact the Sprint retentions agent actually called it the Loss of Signal bug.

I also have a contact in retentions who confirmed this for me. Not everyone will be able to extract this info from a Sprint employee. You need the right employee and the right approach. None-the-less, you can mark my words, the issue is known and is being addressed. For any non-believers, feel free to doubt publicly, but don't expect a response.

My personal hypothesis is that they will be packaging the fix with the next Android update. I have absolutely no proof or factual basis for this, just my gut feeling.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
I hope you are right man.....

Weren't you a part of the MIUI team for the EVO 4G?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fnut6969:
I suppose I'm one of the lucky ones rooted with Zedo's kernel within an hour of getting the phone and never had any issues I've had a few LOS's in the last month and a half but nothing more than I did before moving over from Verizon. Currently, I'm using Chris's LoStKernel and still not having any issues, furthermore this phone flat out blows the Thunderbolt I gave up, out of the water, it has by far the fastest GPS lock I've ever had on a phone and seems to work even when the signal sucks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Just_s:
LOl, yeah. Still mod over there at MIUI.us.

I don't b.s. and I don't take Sprint reps at their word. I work them like a CIA agent until I get the info I want. LOL Spent nearly 3 hours on the phone with a tech support gal on Saturday. I should be getting a Xmas card from her in a few weeks. LOL

But seriously, some of those people are starved for information, especially from people like us. I must have taught her 20 different things about the E4GT in our time on the phone. It's all about establishing a rapport. She made so many notes about the issue, by the time she handed me over to the Retentions folks, they had no choice but to be honest with me. I do hope the fix comes soon, because the issue is pretty ridiculous for a $500+ phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tinybfk:
+ 1 same for me. Never rooted and no LOS since launch.

Sent from my §ãM§ûñG GåLâXÿ §2 éPîç 4G TøùçH
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] allroy1975:
I run the stock w/cwm that chris41g put out and it's great. Anything else, including his lostkernel gives me Los. Stock is rock solid for me. Never had a Los with it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] maverick101:
I'm not rooted.have had phone since launch.I haven't experienced los until yesterday and the day before that.had to reboot my phone to clear it.it then came back 2 more times within a half hour.haven't had it since.can't wait for an evo3. probly be the last samsung phone I'll buy.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] move_over:
Got the phone on launch day, ran stock 4 days with no Los. Odined Zedomax's kernel, got 1-2 Los daily. Then used Chris 's pulled stock w/CWM, well over a month now with zero Los. Still rooted, so obviously that's not the problem.
[HTC Sensation] gavin-phelan:
HTC VILLE leaked specs to be the first htc running sense 4.0 :D

thoughts?

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_ville_specifications_leak_will_run_ice_cream_sandwich-news-3363.php
[HTC Sensation] exb0:
NOOOOO. ICS should be left untouched
[HTC Sensation] Nekromantik:
i doubt we will get sense 4 for senny.

as all sense 4 phones will prob have 1gm ram so htc will say "too old" so gotta get devs to port it.
[HTC Sensation] gavin-phelan:
is say we will get it since its there flagship phone and ino for a fact xda devs will port it :) i really like the ics launcher but i think its too plain so id like to see what sense can do with the sensation:)
[HTC Sensation] skyhigh2004:
Um it hasn't been there flagship phone for awhile now. More than likely HTC will have excuses as to why they can't release until wayafter you get a new phone lol. Hope waiting is fun.

sent from my Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] EddyOS:
qHD Super AMOLED sounds good
[HTC Sensation] Nekromantik:
well in the UK its HTCs flagship device.

In US the Amaze 4G and now Rezound are better then Senny.
[HTC Sensation] Zehlek:
That does suck if it does happen, but thankfully we have awesome devs here. If Sense 3.0 was able to be ported to the Nexus One, I'm sure 4.0 can be easily ported to the Sensation
[HTC Sensation] Nekromantik:
im just worried that ICS will need 1GB RAM to be at its full potential.

As Sense adds a lot of overhead on top of stock android.
[HTC Sensation] Kohr-Ah:
They already said ICS is coming to sensation.

"HTC knows how excited our fans are to get their hands on Google's latest version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, so we're thrilled today to announce the first wave of HTC phones that will receive upgrades: We can confirm the brand new HTC Vivid, on sale beginning today, is upgradeable to Ice Cream Sandwich. In addition, Ice Cream Sandwich is coming in early 2012 to a variety of devices including the HTC Sensation, HTC Sensation XL and HTC Sensation XE, as well as the HTC Rezound, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO Design 4G and HTC Amaze 4G through close integration with our carrier partners. We're continuing to assess our product portfolio, so stay tuned for more updates on device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Ice Cream Sandwich"
[HTC Sensation] DahIzzo:
seems like the HTC Ville will be prolly sold on April...

or atleast were going to see new HTC Sense 4 together w/ ICS devices on April...

check this out: EDIT/UPDATE: dont trust this guy anymore...HTC stated that this google+ account is a fake , hes not working at htc or google :(

http://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/RUTSUUeYxRR

[OffTopic]

wait... you are not on google+? SHAME ON YOU MAN!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAkZ1FQaC7Y

[/OffTopic]

greez
[HTC Sensation] thmsmllr:
hilarious picture ! :D
[HTC Sensation] gypsy214:
you guys worry to much... htc already announced that WE are getting it on our phones
[HTC Sensation] zerozoneice:
HTC codenames after HIM's lead singer...endorsed beats audio v2 here we come :D

who was that anyway in the first place? Puff Dre or something? :P
[HTC Sensation] stratax:
wow, they are using AMOLED screens D: what the crap. i was happy with the SLCD.
[HTC Sensation] Nekromantik:
i think it was a little bit too obvious he was a fake.

even before you added the update I kinda knew he was BSing.
[HTC Sensation] T-Macgnolia:
@DahIzzo , I really like the pic i your sig that is funny. But the youtube video is like even way better. I totally despise facebook and will never ever ever ever ever ever use it. I really do not see why it ever became so popular, maybe I am not dumbed down enough (sarcasm:p). I have not joined google+ yet but the video and the fact it is big competition to facebook has made me decide to go sing up right now.