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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aforst55:
wait for the galaxy nexus, everybody seems to be. who is your phone carrier?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HeavenlyWinds:
Google's Nexus Lineup.

One, S and Galaxy
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 808Granato:
choosing a phone....

Ive had an HD2 running NAND roms (cmylxgo,hyperdroid...) and really liked it. Touch screen went out (i ordered a new one to try and save it).

Just bought Galaxy s2 for wife and Sensation 4G for me-tmobile 14 day trial will allow me to exchange the one I like the least.

Heres the problem.

My rooted HD2 seemed FASTER internet, CLEARER video streaming, better BATTERY (Yes, I said it!) and overall better than Galaxy 2s and Sensation 4g!

**Is it possible that the rooted ROMS are that much better than the stock roms on the newer phones?

a post above also states the Amaze is probably the better choice than the Sensation anyway? True???

Ive got 9 days left!!!!!!! Am I crazy? or, once I remove all the clutter by rooting the new phones, they will crush all others???
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
*** unlocking bootloader from HTCDEV site is highly recommended for a permanent root solution***

1. enable usb debugging from settings - applications - development

2. plug phone to pc via usb cable - charge only

3. open extracted zip folder and click runme. thats all. (if experience any daemon hanging problems pls install htc sync and plug in phone so drivers are installed. once done delete htc sync and repeat root procedure)

PC will open a cmd screen with prompts that you need to follow. app does rest

4. After root is complete pls visit market and update SU app. once done root will be fully functional and eliminate any future FCs

5. Also as an extra tip you can install SU UPDATE fixer from market to update your binaries to 3.0

ALL DONE

***************** this isnt my work and i take no credit for it. i tried it and the results were good so i am sharing it. period*****************

****please see anzhi thread for clockwork mod and chinese boot.img and rom needed prior to flashing cappy's rcmix3d rom. files needed are posted by me in his rom thread!****

Update:

Software version 1.24.709.2 doesn't seem to be rootable via this method. Please try flashing another ruu from runnymede rom thread then attempt root again

28/3/2012

Added V4 of the Doomlord Exploit as may be why XL was rooted without bootloader being unlocked.

well i relocked my bootloader and flashed ruu 1.05.404 then I used Doolord V4 to root my phone. This was succesful in permanently rooting my phone without unlocking my bootloader. This was not possible with V2 so if anyone wants to root without unlocking bootloader this is now possible using V4 of the Doomlord Exploit attached below. PLEASE NOTE THAT STILL NEED TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER TO FLASH CUSTOM ROMS AND RECOVERY
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Here is proof. Root explorer superuser permissions in SU app on my phone

i uploaded pic via xda premium app so not sure why not showing

terminal app wont give full access nor does rom manager. temp root seems to unmount sd card which is remount after reboot but then root access is gone. some apps work perfectly with root permissions and others don't. guess thats why it a temp solution so at least some of our apps that need root acess will work. i am sure someone who is a bit smarter that i am will know how to adapt this to a fully working solution even if temporary
[HTC Sensation XL] capychimp:
Nice
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
hey cappy the sulution seems to offer some level of control but apps like terminal says access denied but via adb access is granted. someone like you must be able to figure out how these evo3d root files can be amended to work fully on XL. i am also trying the sim unlock method on sensation forum but as root is not as deep as need the mmcblk0p6 files are not being accessed. permission denied
[HTC Sensation XL] nintendolinky:
ive just unlocked my bootloader with the HTCDEV site it worked wonderfully, now how do i go about custom recovery and permaroot
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
how did you do it? apparently the sensation recovery should work with this phone
[HTC Sensation XL] nintendolinky:
I just went through the steps and followed each one, they emailed me an unlock_code.bin and i entered fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin and the screen appeared asking if i wanted to unlock the bootloader. Can you point me in the right direction for the recovery please.
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
yea just did it now i am gonna carry on trying to unlock this phone with the instructions from sensation forum as they should work on this phone. flashing temp root again to get root access and see where it gets me lol

actually i will flash the sensation cwm recovery nd see what happens
[HTC Sensation XL] nintendolinky:
tried flashing the sensation recovery and got remote: image update error so not sure whats wrong, i now have a working superuser though by using the zerg exploit here Zerg Exploit v2
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
already done that as my post in android dev forum. same thing. the root isnt a fully working option. try run terminal and type su and you get permission denied. aslo that method unmounts your internal sdcard and other apps like rom manager cant see it. have you tried the alpharev recovery image|? try the evo 3d recovery as the devices are quite similar
[HTC Sensation XL] nintendolinky:
mate mine is actually working after a reboot, and root explorer and other root apps are working, the only one that isn't is titaniumbackup, not sure why but im looking into it. Terminal works and so does "adb shell" "su"
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
yeah it is fully working even after reboot. i just done fix_permission from rom manager and working fine. i had to update my super user app via market first. also updated all binaries to 3.0.3 so all current now. you can take over now and start and post your solutions and i will help if i can. only started this to show it can be done. using the evo3dfiles worked a treat. supposed to be temp root but still rooted after reboot for even better. just gonna try sim unlocker then try evo3d clockwork mod and if that fails i will try revolutionary one
[HTC Sensation XL] nintendolinky:
See if you can get titaniumbackup working, that's the only app I need or im kinda screwed and will have to go back to the Samsung Galaxy S 2
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Here it is backing up all user apps plus ,data
[HTC Sensation XL] nintendolinky:
Was just about to say ive got it working also, right so now we have root we need custom recovery and woop, full on roms. I have also removed all the bloatware "Soundhound" anyone.
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
still trying to get unlock................... have you tried evo3d recovery? no chefs in here as yet and i guess not many will have the device so might be a while for custom roms. i am happy with a working root solution for now but i am pretty sure evo3d recovery should do the trick
[HTC Sensation XL] nintendolinky:
What do you mean by unlock, sim unlock or fastboot unlock, im a bit worried in trying another phones CWM recovery as i dont want to brick or restore my phone to stock,.
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
sim unlock i meant. there is an unlock solution in the sensation forum but my device is too new so no code for me. none of the recoveries work as tried them all. phone is not bricked but stock recovery must be in a diff partition on this phone as it has no memory card slot. need like a sansung GS2 recovery as it runs off internal sdcard like this device will have too. may need actual custom kernel with recovery built in
[HTC Sensation XL] sean122:
Will this work on the sensation XE?
[HTC Sensation XL] visje68:
problems

my phone keeps rebooting into this mode ,i have already removed the battery nothing helps ,can somebody help me ? thx
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
Thanks for that answer.

And about bootloader.. i have done like steps abovse says, the whole thing again, unlock the bootloader (its unlocked) and root the phone. And the problem is still there, phone still dont ask me when i connect the phone to computer, just sound appear that device is connected and i have to manualy press the widget button for usb connection, only then is phone visible on computer.
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
if usb debugging is connected then when plug in phone should see android symbol on taskbar at top. when you drag down task bar you will see it say please select to change option and usb connected etc. it will pop up with a picture showing charge only or media storage. when select media storage it will mount usb storage. it is set to charge only by default.
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
weird, usb debugging is on, and when i connect in task bar is only notification from usb debuging and nothing else. I know how should "option of usb connection" menu look like, it worked when phone was nonrooted, and when i have rooted it (first time without unlocking bootloader) .. since then "menu" of usb connection dont work anymore.
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
very strange mate as rooting or recovery doesnt mess with usb connection. have you changed setting at all? change it to notify me or peompt me when usb is connected as you may have turned it off. just a thought
[HTC Sensation XL] mtb2104:
what launcher are you using right now?
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
I have turned this option on, it's kinda strange yes :)

I'm using go launcher, should that be an mistake for usb connection notify?
[HTC Sensation XL] mtb2104:
switch back to Sense and it should work :D
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
Hehe i'll try to do that and we'll see if it works when i'll come home :) i have never thought that launcher could be the reason for non working notify.

And sorry for my bad english and any mistakes in text :)
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Remember we are not mind readers so in future please state any changes you have made. Different launchers have more custom options than Rosie so you need to mention stuff like that. Bear that in mind
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
Solved

Sorry mate for not telling u for all changes that i have made.

And what concerns launcher.. it's true, it's launchers fault for not showing usb notify (before this finding i was just afraid that something is wrong with usb connection). So i changed to sense and connect the phone and it works, and when device was connected i changed back to go launcher, and even then usb notify works, but when i restart device notify works again only on sense.

So this is no big deal, all works fine.

So thanks guys for your patience and all support.
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Glad its sorted. Its frustrating is all when normal things dont work is all.
[HTC Sensation XL] mtb2104:
hands were itchy so decided to give it a shot...

I am locked and I am on 1.05.707.5... root seems to be permanent even after a few reboots :D

nice... the XL feels light now after removing all the junks :cool:
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Trust me it isn't rooted mate. Need boot loader unlocked first. Su is an app and it will remain on device. Try running privilege commands and it will fail. Install root exp and launch it root will fail. Install terminal emulator and launch it then type su and it will fail. This thread was started after much trial and error mate and unless you extensively test you can't make such claims as it could mislead others. Also using adb commands check as well. Connect device to PC and cd to adb folder. Type adb shell then su and it will fail. That's how you confirm working root prior to posting such claims. Certain apps do not require full root access to run. I thought same as you initially
[HTC Sensation XL] mtb2104:
thanks for the reminder mate... that's why after it took me by surprise (I was expecting a temp root initially), I read through all the pages first before posting the joy

somehow su worked for me...

I guess I am lucky? :D

no offence mate
[HTC Sensation XL] MadCobbler:
Well I've not known anyone on this forum get away with permanent root without unlocking boot loader, a few have thought the have done it, but in the end, it turned out that they actually didn't have permanent root....
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
he doesnt mate and he will see that when he tried to do anything that requires priviledged root commands. we have been over this many times and in the end we are always proved correct. obviously there will always be stuff like that on here so if it is true then i am happy for him.
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
none taken mate at all!

do me a favour try this from bootloader screen - fastboot flash recovery r1xxxxxx

put the recovery in your fastboot folder. if that works i will update the OP thread. also if this software is rootable without unlocking bootloader can we have it uploaded as others may be able to use it in the future
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
IT WORKS BUT WITH V4 not V2

after the claims of mtb that he successfully rooted his phone without unlocking his bootloader i decided to experiment. Doomlord exploit has been updated since i initially posted the rooting method so i guess the thread needed updating. i relocked my bootloader and flashed ruu 1.05.404 then ran V2 and root was only temporary. I then ran v4 then rebooted and yes ROOT was still there. so yes guys it is possible to permaroot your device without unlocking your bootloader! ive done it and rebooted phone many times to confirm this!

V4 is added to the first page for download. This may also root previously deemed un-rootable firmwares as well!

now testing recovery and custom flash with locked boot loader

RECOVERY wont FLASH with locked bootloader. Need to UNLOCK BOOTLOADER to flash recovery as will get signature fail error
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
crafty git as could have said that you used v4 of the exploit. anyway i have figured it out and added to first page
[HTC Sensation XL] mtb2104:
Thanks for testing!

I didn't get a chance to reply as I was already home, and away from the PC I used to perform the root...

Interesting though as the version I downloaded and used is V2... but good to know V4 works well...:D

Should you need me to update my post, let me know :)

Cheers mate
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
I'm reading threads and i'm a bit confused about unlocked and rooted devices.

So can someone please explain me.. i'm on stock firmware (newer flashed custom rom) i have unlocked bootloader and rooted device, which is the easiest way to relock and unroot the device?,.. and after relocking should i flash stock rom or will be my stock fine and untouched (except meybe delited saved data and progs) ?
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Right I am gonna attach doomlord unroot zip to remove root and revert rom back to stock. If relock bootloader can flash ruu of your device to return back to stock
[HTC Sensation XL] gmx89:
Same result with 1.05.862.4.

Is this version known to not work with this method?

Why is this phone such a pita :D

Seems to have worked with V2 - sorry didn't paste the logs.
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
That's why I left v2 and added v4. Both are still capable of rooting device. This exploit seems to work for many devices and we are lucky it worked on some XL software versions. Hopefully one day soon we will have s-off so people can downgrade to rootable software versions.
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
I understand that, i'm already on stock, but if i relock bootloader do i have therefore flash stock ruu again or i dont need to? I want to know if my stock firmware stays there after relock or i need to flash anyway?

Thanks in advance
[HTC Sensation XL] thegrosboss:
Hi,

i've a sensation xl with software 1.29.73 and rooting doesn't work ? (no permission)

The phone is unlocked

Is there a solution for rooting this version ?

Regards

Dav :D
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
No mate as relocking bootloader phone wont boot. Need to flash ruu to get phone back on
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Not right now mate sorry. If we had s-off you would need to downgrade then root. That's why we all chasing s-off by pledging donations.
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
Thanks mate that's the answer i want to hear it :)
[HTC Sensation XL] LeeFred:
I want to ask a question

Is V4 suitable for 1.24.709.2 ?

or Using another Mr.Root tools ?
[HTC Sensation XL] thegrosboss:
Grrr, so, no way to root with this rom ... :-(
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Sorry mate as all this software versions are pointless. We cannot have gold card with no sdcard so s-off is our only hope. Once we get that we can flash radio flash different stock roms boot splash etc.
[HTC Sensation XL] thegrosboss:
Ok, so my only solution is to put another Rom (which has SU), but must i put also radio rom ?

(My Sensation is unlocked but not rooted)

Is there any cool rom with Htc Sence ?

Thanks

Dav
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
No mate there is no other rom you can put already rooted. If your device is s-off then you can but if s-on then no joy for now. We do have not custom rom via fastboot and need recovery to flash rom which needs root
[HTC Sensation XL] marco473:
So, if i use the new V4 method to root my phone, will i still receive the ICS update for the sensation XL?
[HTC Sensation XL] jacko5:
I have unlocked bootloader, installed recovery, put china rom on.. then another rom then this rom .. Ice Cold Zombi.e v1.4

I tried to run luckypatcher and it says my phone is not rooted.

I have run v2 and v4 of doomlords rooting software, but still no root.

Is this rom not rootable .. Ice Cold Zombi.e v1.4 ?
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
Did u update su binary ? try to do this first if u have not.
[HTC Sensation XL] benjamin.j.goodwin:
If you check the last couple of pages on the ICZ thread, you will see someone else using luckypatcher had the same issue. It seems that it may not work on ICS. You are rooted.

Download Terminal Emulator from Play and type in SU

It should access for root.
[HTC Sensation XL] wetxxx:
I can`t find the answer so I have a few question:

1. Do I need the first to unlock the bootloader from htcdev to take root? (I have not found on my HTC Sensation XL model on this site. There are only sensation model)

2. when I install root and (propably) unlock bootloader, will I be able to install new software from the htc (brand) like as ics? I mean there using bulit-in phone install software program ?

thx :)
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
1. first you have to unlock the bootloader, otherwise the root would be only temporary and once after the first reboot disappeared

2. if u mean update to ics u first need to relock bootloader again, then install stock ruu and then try to update or wait for update to come :)
[HTC Sensation XL] wetxxx:
1. I think that root will be always independently power off or reset. Its normally ?
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
if u root without unlocking BL, there may be no permission..

read this:

answer..

i hope we understand each other..
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Thanks lameazz. Very good answer
[HTC Sensation XL] wetxxx:
Thank you for your comprehensive answer. :)
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
Both are welcome, just trying to help, because developers/experts already have too much work :)
[HTC Sensation XL] giorgit28:
PPL

Will it root Stock ICS rom? :)
[HTC Sensation XL] netvpn7:
not working on sensation XL

unlocked the bootloader but this does not work...
[HTC Sensation XL] lameazz:
which software do u have ?
[HTC Sensation XL] john2296:
i hve software version 1.05.401.4 ... and when i try rooting using the v4 method (which doesnt invlove unlocking the boothloader) it says 'the system cannot find the path specified' what am i doing wrong?
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
you need to install android sdk if not already done so. also need to install htc sync and plug device in to allow drivers to install then remove htc sync. enable usb debugging and plug device in then run program again. should be fine after that. seems adb tools are not present or htc sync still installed
[HTC Sensation XL] nitrolith:
Doesnt work for my Sensation XL as well. the build number is 1.24.708.2. i am happy with the stock rom but my camera failed suddenly (unable to connect to the camera service) and i am trying to root and uninstall the camera stock app using adb. i downloaded this yesterday and hope there isnt any update on the package. if there isnt a way to root the device, i will have to live with the camera app - i am sure the htc service guys here will not be able to crack it.
[HTC Sensation XL] spywear2005:
Are you know how can i s-off or CID HTC Rhyme please??
[HTC Sensation XL] MadCobbler:
Try this thread, the new root tool does root the newer firmware versions

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1625841

---------- Post added at 11:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:50 AM ----------

Your in the wrong place to ask that question mate this thread is for the Sensation XL only :D
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
Refer to link vertigo posted
[HTC Sensation XL] nativestranger:
Hi i just rooted using v4 method but bootloader is still locked. Is it still possible to receove ota updates in this state?
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
as far as i am aware you will get notified and install should be successful. obviously you will lose root but new method i posted should help root new update
[HTC Sensation XL] nativestranger:
Thanks alot. My original maps was deleted when rooting. Will it cause a problem with the update?
[HTC Sensation XL] shingers5:
No you should be fine
[HTC Sensation XL] cx5:
Thanks to shingers5 !!!!!

V4 works on Hong Kong 1.05.708.6

HTC_Sync must be UNINSTALLED from Windows. Not even KILLING/REMOVING/END_TASK works.

No unlocking bootloader step. No visit to htcdev.com

Titanium backups 5.1.1 works.

voltage control CPU 245Mhz, 386, 768, 1497Mhz. Cannot change voltage. Governor only have Ondemand, Performance and userspace.

Thanks to shingers5 !!!!!
[HTC Sensation XL] Schumi 01:
Right, i am having trouble rooting my XL, just downloaded the latest ICS software all installed and working,

Right i have unlocked Bootloader, that is fine, now i have tried rooting it with Doomlord V2 and then V4 software, and for the life of me i cannot get Root, Downloaded superuser, and tried updating Not working.

Any ideas ??? i am lost now.

Thanks
[HTC Sensation XL] AndroHero:
Try this. I'm just eating then i'm gunna try it :)
[HTC Sensation XL] Schumi 01:
Thanks, but i cannot even install CWM, so i cannot flash this zip, really frustrating now, after installing cwm, and rebooting to recovery, screen goes Blank, nothing there, need to reboot the phone.

Might leave it for now, until someone can verify that it can be done, just soo frustrating. :mad:
[HTC Sensation XL] AndroHero:
That is the version of CWM i am using, and it seems to work fine on ICS apart from mounting SD Card :)
[HTC Sensation XL] Schumi 01:
I have been using Paul O'Brien Mod, and i have had no problem with it up until now, may give the other one a go, but not tonight maybe tomorrow, i have had enough of Flashing and relocking for one day. Lol

Thanks
[HTC Sensation XL] AndroHero:
The old one won't work with the new Hboot. Partition layout has been changed :)
[HTC Sensation XL] Schumi 01:
Thanks Andy, that is why then, will have to try and install this version then, is it the same procedure as the old one do you know ??
[HTC Sensation XL] AndroHero:
Yeah just fastboot flash recovery xxxx.img. That update .zip does not work though. I get status (0) error (Wrong update binary) I'll google around see if i can find a working one. Maybe someone should ask ben or alex or someone to make us one :)
[HTC Sensation XL] AndroHero:
Ok we now have working root for the ICS OTA update. Biiiig thanks to Alex-V for providing the update script and correcting the noob errors i made :D

Just flash from recovery :)
[HTC Sensation XL] Schumi 01:
Nice one, if you dont mind, could you go through the process of getting cwm installed please?

As you know i have been having allsorts of problems

Thanks

Sent from my HTC XL