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[HTC Titan] rijohann:
you should hold the volume up/down button and press the power button ONCE only, you have the wrong bootloader window:-) it should be white with radio version and seriel and so on:-)
[HTC Titan] ch1lko:
this is what i got after holding vol down while turning on the phone

when holding vol up button the phone vibrates 3 times and then a green light starts blinking. then windows starts looking for a driver for "qualcomm cdma technologies msm" but finds nothing
[HTC Titan] jfcc58:
Ok, this is what's going wrong: it's instructed at phone startup to ONLY hold vol down button. That does not work.

Here's how you should do it: for bootloader state: hold BOTH vol up AND vol down together and keep pushing it. Then press power on once and voila: bootloader on your Titan. Now upgrading works like a charm.
[HTC Titan] ch1lko:
thanks, flashing now :)
[HTC Titan] twisticles:
Aha! I guess volume down with power button is some kind of recovery mode.

Both volume buttons and power brings U you the white screen.

All flashed now :)

Still doesn't fix my International Assist/Comtact recognition problem though :(. Never had this problem on the Mozart...

Sent from my TITAN X310e using Board Express
[HTC Titan] Finalforce1111:
THANKS ALL!!

You saved me, finally I can do some playing on my titan now :D
[HTC Titan] sutt359:
Whoops sorry my mistake Vol up + Down

Sorry guys i didnt notice
[HTC Titan] losty-1H:
change log? whats new/better?

wondring about flashing my phone aswell, got default phone atm
[HTC Titan] egzthunder1:
I see the same thing. However, why in the world this thing is looking for a CDMA driver is out of my level of understanding... this is a GSM phone :p I think it may be that Windows recognizes this thing, originally as a cdma device....

weird.
[HTC Titan] O_G:
Moved to general, as not development.

Take it Easy

O_G
[HTC Titan] mtbmdk:
Are you guys flashing something other than WP7?
[HTC Titan] twisticles:
Go spend some time on Wiki, searching for UMTS and you will find your answer.

UMTS uses Wideband Code Division Multiple Access, or W-CDMA. So yeah, you have a CDMA chip in your phone. (Although it is different from the Verizon type CDMA2000 chip. The difference is in how they utilise the radio spectrum).

In brief (as is my understanding), GSM phones have two radio chips - one for the GPRS (Edge) networks and one for UMTS faster networks (H, H+ etc). Your phone will use the "3G" UMTS network unless you set it to only use GPRS (Settings > Cellular > 3G on/off). Incidentally, you will find a massive boost to battery life if you do this, possibly better covereage in some areas, and much slower data speeds :D
[General Questions and Answers] m_halfer:
I'm having a bit of trouble with my HTC Desire. I know this is the 100th post regarding this topic, but other threads have been getting me nowhere.

It takes 5-10 min to get past the "HTC" and "Quietly Brilliant" screens... When it has finally booted, the device is unresponsive to any input.

HBOOT and FASTBOOT are working. I have used the "CLEAR STORAGE" in HBOOT... Without luck.

I can get the phone into recovery mode, ADB recognizes the S/N but shows device offline.

HBOOT screen shows:

BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON

HBOOT-0.93.0001

MICROP-051d

TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101

RADIO-5.11.05.27

Aug 10 2010 17:52.18

The phone is not tweaked in any way...

Does anyone have a suggestion for my next approach?

Any help is appreciated.
[General Questions and Answers] st@matis:
factory reset it or flash a new rom
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] attn1:
1. The number one smartphone maker, Samsung, provides AT&T users with the ability to flash custom roms. Not HTC. And the VIVID is locked does tight on AT&T.

2. "There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, May 26, 2011 - http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084

3. #2 was a boldfaced LIE on the part of Peter Chou, CEO of HTC. Since then, HTC has selectively unlocked bootloaders - blaming carriers when their competitors are providing devices that are pretty much wide open. This same device on another carrier is unlockable. That promise has clearly been broken.

4. The common denominator is HTC, not AT&T. Either HTC is gutless or lying, either way, it's THEIR devices that are not unlocked and not the #1 Android supplier.

Don't buy these devices if you want a typical Android experience where you have a choice of firmwares to run. Even if you chose to stay stock with an unlockable bootloader, that choice would be YOURS. Do you really want to give it up?

Join me in boycotting this device. If you already bought one, bring it back to AT&T (You can still choose something else) and tell them WHY.

Personally, I am done buying ANY HTC devices until this policy changes. This BS is getting OLD.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] SysAdmNj:
Hey attn1, thats not the only reason I would bring it back. I'm having horrible data connections if any at all.

I didnt like the sgs2, so would you recommend the motorola atrix 2?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] CEaton:
I cannot believe I traded my Galaxy S2 for this phone.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] attn1:
Right now, I think only Samsung and LG are getting it right.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] SysAdmNj:
I would try the samsung galaxy skyrocket but they are having the same lte data connection issues for non lte areas apparently.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
What??? Why is the HTC Raider's bootloader unlockable on the htcdev site then?

edit: You're a smart guy and I'm sure you can understand the inherent risks of allowing an unlocked bootloader and custom roms (would you download a version of Windows from some torrent site and just trust it). That said HTC is merely making you accept responsibility if you do unlock that bootloader. It seems to me as if ATT is the one not allowing that since The HTC Holiday on Rogers (Raider) is able to be unlocked via their tool, but ATT's (Vivid) isn't.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] compuw22c:
I will join you in this boycott.

I currently have an unlocked i9100 I'm using, and I was SERIOUSLY considering picking up one of these because a) I want to get on an unlimited LTE plan asap as I assume ATT being the douche-nozzles they are will surely take it away soon and b) for use as an LTE modem essentially since I have such a hard time getting data service in downtown chicago. Not anymore! (unfortunately, I also can't justify buying the skyrocket when I already have the gsII, would have been fun to have something different to play with)

I agree, this bootloader locking is BS. Samsung has phones on every carrier, none of them with locked bootloaders. Even my mom's Charge on Verizon (gag) is unlocked.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
Well crap! This isn't what I'd like to have seen from you attn1, but at the same time, I'm sure you're tired of holding ppl's hand to try and root/s-off their phones w/your tool.

Le sigh, I was lookin forward to this and hopefully using another fine piece of attn1 software.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] attn1:
No, Samsung and LG devices are open on AT&T. HTC and Motorola are not. There is no option "to accept responsibility" - which would be fine by me. Please go back and re-read the OP. HTC is not delivering what they can - or what they promised.

I would not use LTE until it is more fully deployed anyway.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] chocodough:
I'm not sure what connection issues you are referring to. This is the first I've heard anyone mention that.

I live in an LTE area but work in an HSPA area. No connection issues anywhere, regardless of LTE or not.

I have the SkyRocket though.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
I read your post. I understand what you're saying. Apparently you don't understand what I'm saying. I know what HTC promised and realize they haven't lived up to that promise. They are offering a means to unlocking it though. Carriers have to agree though and you have to accept some agreement as well.

HTC's Bootloader Unlock Site

This site works for the Raider, not for our Vivid. Gives a CID (carrier) error.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] attn1:
No, carriers do NOT have to agree, as evidenced by current offerings from Samsung, LG and Sony. HTC is using carriers as a excuse to do what they want anyway. Their competition is not. Regardless of who's issue it is, not buying such a device is the best course of action, and if sales are down significantly, will drive change. Even if it doesn't, anyone lurking around on XDA developers would be infinitely better off with a more open device.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Big Dawg 23:
I agree somewhat with you, however things to keep in mind.

1. Accessing the bootloader voids the warranty, so why should AT&T care?

2. Have you contacted HTC as of yet? I have and they said Bootloader shouldn't be locked and if it is ALL devices get an unlock code. I tried to Unlock, and given the device launched on Sunday I am not surprised.

3. HTC is not the only one locking bootloaders, Motorola is FAR WORSE.

Personally I like the phone. I do place custom roms on my devices. As a previous owner of the Droid X and Atrix, I have experienced locked bootloaders.

This phone for me is better than the SGS2. Quirks of the SGS2 Rom with Touch Wiz and not a fully functioning CM yet it wasn't good.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] markjo:
I'l just start off by saying I am not a developer and don't know much about bootloaders and such.. going from a Captivate to the Vivid, I already see a difference in support of development. Is it really this bad?

I'm loving the Vivid as it is, and I HATE stock ROMs, all of them. I just hope that things may change for current Vivid owners.. after all, it's only been two days.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] linkismyhero:
I'm really disappointed with what I'm reading. The Vivid is my first Android device that I've purchased on AT&T, and so far it seems like a great phone. But if devs are saying the device should be boycotted, that doesn't seem like a good sign for future development support.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] trell959:
I don't see what's bad about this device. I'm still going to get this device regardless of what a Dev says .

Edit: And this phone JUST CAME OUT. I do not expect anything within the first week or two. But if it remains like this, i may have to jump on this boycott with you. And i sure as hell don't want to buy another Samsung device
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Longcat14:
I had a Vibrant, and when I switched to AT&T, the Infuse was the only good phone on AT&T (I mainly did not want to give up SAMOLED).

I do not want to get another samsung phone, but if I have to get the skyrocket because of HTC's lies, I will.

Sent from my phone. :3
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] markjo:
Yeah. I mean so what if they may have been hypocritical in promising things they have yet to follow up on. At least give it some time. Something is better than nothing.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
Ok for 1 I know for a FACT not ALL LG Devices have Unlocked bootloader's considering I Have one so don't go saying that unless you can 100% back that up. Second, I am more than willing to bet AT&T forced HTC to lock the bootloader and I would not be in the least suprised that the new Samsung would be locked down as well considering they are the 1st LTE Devices to be available on AT&T. Regardless though like people said this thing has only been out for less than a freaking week. I am also willing to bet given a month or so HTC will have an Unlock for this device regardless as to what AT&T wants to do.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] attn1:
Not true - it may or may not void the warranty, depending on the nature of the problem. That gray area is what HTC fears will cost money. I didn't say AT&T would care about warranty. I said HTC would.

Recent phones from LG like the Thrill and the 2GS have been unlockable.

All the recent Samsungs are easily unlockable.

HTC already has an unlock for this device - (on Rogers) and excluded AT&T - one of their largest markets.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
HTCDev.com?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Aus_Azn:
Just try it, it'll work.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] nielp96:
Thank you it worked
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] l Frosty l:
Does anybody know of why i am unable to get to the LAST part of unlocking the bootloader using terminal?

I cant do the last terminal command as it errors out on my mac.

the error is here:

error: cannot load 'Unlock_code.bin'

Any ideas or help would be appreciated since HTC doesnt provide much instruction for mac users

EDIT::::

Disregard folks, figured it out!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] attn1:
The fact that ALL bootloaders for devices released since Sept (and some prior) is proof that AT&T had zero to do with the bootloader's being locked, and it was more HTC bullcrap to deflect heat. It was their decision, because they didn't want to face dealing with dumbass customers who screw up their phones trying to customize them. Often, these screwups are simple fixes for people who have a clue, but HTC will now have to deal with them - either eating the cost for processing and labor or telling the dumbass that his issue is not covered under warranty. Who were the carriers not unlockable? The largest ones - with the largest liability to HTC.

Keeping bootloaders locked after their promise not to was 1/2 of my beef with HTC. The other half is their refusal to comply with GPL. When firmware is released containing a Linux kernel, that kernel source is to be made available upon that product's release. Not in 3 months, not in 3 weeks, but upon release.

HTC's stonewalling insures that we don't have current kernel source for most devices until long after that source is relevant.

As for me, the boycott is still on until HTC publicly acknowledges that source will be made available just as new devices and firmware updates are available.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] l Frosty l:
Good. Occupy HTC !
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] trell959:
Well now HTC is up to gpl standards.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] attn1:
GPL is not a standard, it's a software license, one that HTC continuously violates.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
Someone posted in another thread that HTC will be unlocking the bootloader via their site, but it's not available yet. They emailed HTC.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] capman231:
I talked to HTC support today and the tech said that the bootloader would be unlocked as soon as possible, it's on the list but there is a few devices ahead of it. He confirmed that AT&T had not requested it be locked. Unoffically he said it might happen in the next 2 to 5 days but at the worst it shouldn't be but a few days.

capman231
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
I talked with HTc internal tech and they said jsut to check HTCdev.com however they had no idea if there would be a bootloader unlock or if and when it would be out.

:rolleyes:

Drew
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] capman231:
The tech I talked to also said to check the dev site, but when I pushed him he said that he would put me on hold and go talk to his supervisor. When he finally came back he told me just what I posted. I guess we will have to wait and see. I just got my Vivid yesterday so they have 29 more days.

capman231
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] markjo:
Thanks very much for that info.

Just for reference, does anyone know how long it took HTC to allow official bootloader unlocking on their other locked devices?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
Specifically the Raider? ;)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] capman231:
I just looked on the list on the dev site and the Raider actually isn't on the list. Could it have shipped unlocked?

capman231
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
As far as I have seen wondering around this place it looks like the Raider you can go to HTC Dev and unlock it even though it isn't Technically showing up. AT&T users are the ones getting the CID Error.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Apatche69:
I'm in the same boat as you. I have been holding on to my upgrade for a little over a year to get this device. If the devs don't want to come over I guess ill just have to deal with stock. I was really looking forward to a new experience with android devs coming from Windows Mobile 6.5
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
Don't pay attention to that list. I don't believe the Amaze is on there either.

edit: It's not. They're not too fast to update that page.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] -oH-mr_rogers:
i live in a hspa area and go to school and work in a LTE area, with no problems of data speed or connectivity on LTE, however when im on LTE (in houston) and i go to maps w/o gps on it says im in San Jose, CA.... AND THEY DONT EVEN HAVE LTE!!! lol.. anyone else having a similar problem

oh turning on gps fixes it fyi
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ahm12:
i am in why because attn1 said so..
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] randrewm97:
im not to worried about doing root... when it comes out it comes out. i can understand why a manufacture and carrier would not want it rooted.

a manufacture wouldnt want it cause you can brick your phone. i know they said it at one point that if you root it, then you void warranty and its your own risk, but its also a hassle for them when people try and sneak it by them

a provider wont want it rooted cause you can use tethering for free. once a root comes out, that will be one of the first things i do cause i still have my iphone and ill be carrying it with me so i can play street fighter iv volt cause android dont have that game.

im new to android, but this just seems like the iphone imo cause we (iphone users) had to wait for a jailbreak every time apple updated the ios
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Aus_Azn:
This is why "Use wireless networks" stinks. I'd hazard a guess to say that it is referencing AT&T's nearest major center. I'm in New York, and it usually says I'm in Illinois.

I have a Galaxy S Captivate, so GPS doesn't fix the problem for me...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] kornklown69:
Everyone switch to the skyrocket...problem solved lol we r just waiting for source and more devs then i think we will take off. As well we are trying to get our own forum as the admins clumped us with the original at&t galaxys s II
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
Sure it solves the short term Dev problem...

but adds the problem of the cheap plastic feel, the low res screen, the over-saturated screen that bugged the hell out of me and it costs more.

I got rid of the SGSII for a reason. :(
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
I agree with you 100%. I have no clue why people are drawn to Samsung phones. They feel like a display model. Screen looks cartoonish. 4.5" and 480x800.

The Vivid is in no way my ideal phone, they could've done things differently, but it's the best out for what I want in a phone.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
Exactly. Why would I switch to a device that is more expensive and has crappier resolution and is totally over saturated. No thank's I think I will stick with a device that is crisp and clean and shows colors correctly and that also does not suffer from viewing angle issues. I also NEVER had an issue with viewing this device in Direct sun light so I have No idea where people are getting the idea that this thing is hard to see in the sun. Anyway yea haters will hate and the samsung fanboy club will always hate anything that isn't samsung and or Super Amoled Plus.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Zytryx:
I had a skyrocket for a few days and they are right it feels cheap and the screen red is low my captivate is better built and not for the pentile screen I would like the screen better as it is its just as good as the dpi is better
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] blopez24:
This is the same reason I didn't buy the skyrocket and got the vivid instead.

Sent from my HTC Vivid
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
I complained on HTCDev.com
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] HAYDENB:
The carriers do not do not dictate if the bootloader is locked or not. Because Samsung phones are on every carrier and their bootloaders are not locked. Its the manufacturer, That being said even though i am not a developer I like samsung phones cause they are hacker friendly. I wish HTC would be more hacker friendly because they build quality devices
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
@Pirateghost

i got nearly the identical response from 3 reps

Drew
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
Do you have 100% Proof that the carrier isn't forcing HTC to do this. Samsung is a Giant company that does more than just phones and has the money to Ignore AT&T if it doesn't suit their purposes I would guess. HTC as far as I know only develops phone's so I would assume probably has less money to fight with AT&T.

Add to that, that Samsung is the One coming out with the New ICS Phone and AT&T than has reason to allow Samsung to do what they want.

But that is just me making assumptions just like you made assuming that AT&T has Nothing to do with it. Anyway enough of my rant.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
From the htcdev.com page.

This leads me to believe it's att that has placed this restriction on the phone. If you notice, there's not a single att device in the list.

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
But Redneck, since HTC has implemented this unlock bootloader procedure on their website, how many phone on ATT were made by HTC? I think only the Inspire and Vivid. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) I say that either HTC will give us the option to unlock it via their site soon or someone will discover how to do it. Also remember that the phone only came out Sunday. I remember when I got my motorola backflip and that took 6 months for custom roms :(.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Aus_Azn:
Don't forget, we are dealing with the carrier that banned "unknown sources" apps... And the most ignorant carrier in the big 4 with respect to Android...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
Yea it is so unfortunate that AT&T is I think the largest carrier and has quite a list of Great phones but is also the most ignorant carrier who Only cares about their bottom line and could care less about the general public whom they cater to. I mean really if AT&T really used their resources to better things than they would be the best carrier around but sadly it's all about bottom line and how much money they can milk people for in it's current state.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
Unknown sources is no longer blocked. This was changed many months ago.

every single android phone on ATTs line up has the bootloader unlocked with the exception on the Vivid. I find it hard to believe that ATT would be blocking this individual phone

further then that i spoke with HTC technical and they said there was no known carrier block.

Drew
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
Not true at all. Once again people giving false information without doing any research. All Moto phones come with a locked bootloader.

edit: looking at your sig you had an Inspire. That has a locked bootloader too
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
Current lineup. Not one is locked.

I'm not sure about the Atrix 2 as it was not available in my market.

Sgs2

Sgs2 skyrocket

Captivate glide

LG thrill

All have unlocked bootloaders.

Drew
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
You only named two manufacturers and it's been stated before that they don't lock bootloaders on any of their devices. HTC and Moto lock all their bootloaders. HTC offers an online tool to unlock it though.

edit: Like I said before the way HTC does their bootloader locking/unlocking is perfectly fine with me, assuming soon we will be able to unlock it with their online tool. If these manufacturers want to market their devices as secure/business capable devices they must have a locked bootloader.