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[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] nkd:
may be I should clear myself. I actually meant root, not unlocked. Atleast it fricking works. Unlocking is second to root for me. HTC devices are way harder to even root without htc giving in.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] baltimorelizard:
well darn, I guess I will have to (gag) get the skyrocket. This sucks too because it's overpriced and feels cheap.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] fernandezhjr:
Why should the manufacturers bother placing security on a device if it isn't going to be good? The way I see it, either the manufacturer should put no security or really good security on a device. Although, for my purposes, I prefer the first option. The second just makes it more challenging, but nothing is unbeatable. Sometimes, it just takes more time and patience if the manufacturer did do a really good job.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] davezaff:
Do you even know anything about the OS.....seriously.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Entropy512:
I'd avoid the Skyrocket - it doesn't have the maturity that the I777 does.

In general, I'd avoid LTE phones for at least a generation - so far based on all the reports I've heard, the Vivid and Skyrocket solve none of the issues Verizon users have been having with LTE in terms of connection reliability and battery life.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dawakat:
Not gonna boycott

Personally I love the phone. The LTE in my network is fantastic, the battery is low but I always carry my charger, and the display is really nice. Also I got the phone at a cheap price so I'm happy with what I got.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
well how fortuitous...

AT&T just sent me a customer service quiz via text.

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How was the level of service you received from "Clifford" 1-10: 10

How likely are you to recommend AT&T to a friend? 1-10 : 1

We're sorry to hear you would not recommend AT&T, could you please tell us what AT&T could do to change that:

I was and continue to be very disappointed that AT&T has locked the boot loader of the HTC Vivid I purchased... But allows the Skyrocket to be unlocked. The HTC Vivid is the same phone as the HTC Raider on Bell in Canada, which can be unlocked.

I can not recommend AT&T to anyone I know who may want a more open, less authoritarian experience.

AT&T needs to allow the unlock of boot loaders from ALL manufacturers, not just Samsung.

Based on what I have read recently on various Android forums, I am not alone. Many other customers who purchased the Vivid are disappointed in this archaic move by AT&T and are considering returning our recently purchased devices and leaving AT&T.

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lol
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
Here is something interesting for you all to chew on. The HTC Rezound on Verizon Also has a Locked Bootloader so this is Not the only HTC Phone that has the bootloader locked down at the moment. Starting to seem like the phones that are due to get ICS for Certain are Locked down tight at the moment which is really quite an annoyance.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] tacotino:
With this comment I have to say... You're wrong, ppl here are amazing! I hope we can get the ball rolling on this unlock, but IMO this is a bit harder than iPhone. I also might be wrong on that statement, but if you go look at cm7 or some of the other top Roms, kills ios hands down. IPhone sucks anyway, lets add 3 things to a phone every year then upgrade the os. Yeah talk about changing it up....
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dawakat:
Well hell Apple only releases one phone a year not 15 lol. I enjoyed my iPhone for the simplicity of it and the easy hackability, I can't even figure out what the hell a bootloader is on the Vivid. But I really enjoy the phone though
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] cyber_pete:
That is beautiful.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Dawakat:
The president of AT&T would wipe his butt with our letters lmao
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] XAviierG:
RT @htc: @SmoovX Xavier, we’re committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for their phones. However, some phones*may not be...(cont)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] XAviierG:
RT @htc: @SmoovX* ...unlockable due to operator restrictions. We currently have support from T-Mobile USA & Sprint. If you want...(cont.)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] XAviierG:
RT @htc: @SmoovX*...your device supported, we recommend contacting your carrier and let them know your interest in unlocking the bootloader. Thanks.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] drewdatrip:
And the blame game continues....
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
I don't really think this thread should be in here, it isn't very constructive. One huge flaw is that us "tinkerers" that like to mess with our phones, are in the minority. Just us boycotting this device won't do anything, who knows if HTC will even notice. A more constructive thing is how we are starting to contact them via e-mail/facebook/twitter to get some answers and press HTC to change this. That is a much better way to get our voices heard.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] attn1:
I fully support our right to hack our on devices. But HTC has lied, promised, re-directed, lied more - and increased efforts to lock down devices they make to prevent us from doing so.

I say - they promised us unlocked bootloaders - make them deliver. Unlocking the bootloader itself does nothing; it's just a means to an end - allowing us to modify the device. These are OURS - we pay for them one way or another, and we should have the freedom to root and modify them without having to hack bootloaders.

While I realize your opinion is yours and you think it's valid and respect that for what it is, but I really don't care what you think of this thread. I've hacked and modified my share of devices, but HTC's Android policies and practices have historically been notoriously bad. I think it's time to make them hurt a little for treating us - their customers - so poorly. The ONLY way to do that - is to not buy them. Even if a user has no plans to modify the phone he should be aware of CIQ, should be aware that he has had an inherent right removed (according to US federal court - visit eff.org ) by the manufacturer and boycott on principle. I know that's a somewhat obsolete principle, but what the hell - I am old.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
Grumpy old men:Wrath of the Android Haxor!

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
See, I like HTC designs too much...

I just want them to work like I expect.

I don't want to be forced to use Samsung's crappy plastic phones with their ridiculously over-saturated screen(I absolutely HATE Super AMOLED Plus)

So, my only recourse is to try and get HTC to fix their policy.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
I personally don't think it is HTC at fault considering pretty much all of their International devices have Unlocked bootloaders. My assumption is that AT&T forced HTC to lock the bootloaders. I mean if you Really look at the evidence that is the only way this would happen considering the Raider (International Version) is unlocked. Of course HTC will never admit this considering AT&T would be up their ass so far they would go out of business and AT&T will NEVER admit fault so we are stuck with back and forth BS.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
But that makes zero sense in light of the skyrocket and Nitro having unlocked bootloaders
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
Well considering how much money Samsung and LG have and the fact that they don't just Strictly sell cellphones it would make sense. AT&T isn't going to try and duke it out with companies who do more than sell just cellphones considering those companies could just drop AT&T and keep on making a Ton of money just based off of the other stuff they sell. HTC on the other hand Strictly makes cellphones as far as I know and I am willing to bet AT&T is a Large portion of their base.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
But we're in the minority here. Sometimes we often forget how little of a population us "hackers" are. The general public could care less about an unlocked bootloader. They are going to walk in the store or see it online and buy it because of the big screen, cool look of sense, and unique design. Just us not buying it isn't going to do a whole lot. However, if you enter in the CIQ issue, then you will have a greater effect because more of the general public would be worried about something like that. But your arguement only has to do with the locked bootloader.

Sure, people like us were the ones who brought up HTC and got them to where they are. But at this point, they could do with out us. They are popular enough at this point.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Spartoi:
I think people forget that XDA started out as site to hack HTC devices. The bootloader thing is nothing new.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Yea, looks like some of our own might be onto something though. Look at the "Think tank" thread in the development section. Gsleon is asking potential devs to help him crack it.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] malickie:
So anyone else getting survey's from AT&T. I just got one asking specifically about the Vivid.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dashingdon:
Ditto .... Skyrocket feels cheap and display is bad ....
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] 8125Omnimax:
Everyone has been nagging about which is better, has anyone figured out that all the LTE phones out have the same damn CPU chipset!

The Vivid, Skyrocket and LG's new overrated HD phone have the same CPS's, only difference is Vivid is underclocked for whatever "battery reasons", the skyrocket has an 1800Mah+ battery compared to the 1620Mah Vivid battery, I have yet to see LG's battery.

Just because you can root one quicker than the other doesn't mean that the phone is better, lets face it a large majority of people who root their phones do so for nefarious purposes, case and point the ability to circumvent AT&T's wifi tethering via app that probably needs "root access"...yeah I said it

Whats the most you can do on a rooted Vivid device...well lets see

1)Use Titanium Backup ( One of the rare useful apps to back up all your apps that you hopefully did pay for ;) )

2)Use Rom Manager (Just to switch roms or check out a future Cyanogenmod ICS port, if in fact one is envisioned for the device. or any random rom)

3)Overclock the CPU ( Oh yeah. lets crank that baby up to 1.5 on each Core...wait a sec not one game or app takes full advantage of the dual cpu architecture...Shadowgun and Riptide are not showcases BTW)

4)Remove Carrier IQ (This crap needs to get out of our phones like right now)

The Vivid is a nice phone and budgeted so that a majority of subscribers can enjoy the new technology often termed 4gLTE, Receiving and sending data is quicker now no matter what 4G phone model you own. Everyone has a preference but remember, all these release phones have the same CPU chipset on them. Youre just choosing the shell its packaged in.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dusty2422:
There's a lot more to a phone than just the CPU chipset.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] dashingdon:
I am tempted to buy skyrocket only because it can be rooted. adfree is a "must" for me and it requires root to work properly. Root requires to remove carrier crapware as well.

however other than CPU speed , I do not see any benefit of skyrocket. Feels cheap and looks like screen can get scratched easily.

In context of this thread , I don't want to boycott the device. But I am willing to delay the purchase of vivid until boot unlock / root is found or just wait for next HTC device (No fan of apple or LG so iphone/nitro is out of question).
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] silver03wrx:
The skyrockets screen is made with gorilla glass and most certainly will not scratch easy. I cant stand any display now other then a amoled all other displays look dim and dull. Ive had the htc evo 4g the evo shift 4g the evo 3d. And the samsung epic samsung galaxy s2 and now the skyrocket. But its all in personel prefrence . Im just saying if u buy a device with super amoled its very difficult to ever own one that is not
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] pside15:
I used to agree with this but now I'm not so sure. A coworker of mine got the Skyrocket when I got my Vivid and it already has multiple scratches on it from just being in his pocket with nothing else at all. I never had this problem with the 2 gorilla glass devices I've had but I saw the scratches on his myself.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] anit77:
At&t is the problem!

I have been following everything going on with the Holiday since the device was leaked. For the life of me I can't figure out why HTC would allow the unlocking of the Raider and not the Vivid unless it was At$t's doing. How many other devices has HTC released in the last 3 months worldwide at are locked down? None that I know of. The common denominator here is At$t.

Samsung, LG and even Motorola have a considerable amount of products beyond handheld devices & tablets. As such they have a much larger number of customers & revenue streams than HTC. Given HTC's narrow product line they tend to produce higher quality devices which is good for us. But they can't afford to cut off one of their larger customers over this.

I believe At$t is trying to keep it's ability to charge for tethering and keep CIQ on the phone. In doing so they will most likely be costing themselves more money based on the number of returns they are seeing and also customers that may defect from them to other carriers.

Boycotting this one device won't hurt At$t any and shouldn't do HTC much harm. But if a general boycotting of HTC gets started, especially if future phones stay locked on At&t, it will only hurt the company the puts out the best products. Our best bet is either switch carriers or crack the bootloader. What are we to do if the Edge or Zeta comes to At$t early next year and it's locked down, boycott them too? Or do what this community has always done and crack the device?

I don't really have a choice with carriers. I need nationwide coverage and have been royally ****ed over by Veri$on twice. I refuse to let them do it a third time. I may not be the happiest with some of At$t's policies but at least I know what I've signed up for and they've never jacked my plan the 1st month after the contract term expired like Veri$on has.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
Or in my case... it's very difficult to ever consider another one that is.

I HATE Super AMOLED.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] XAviierG:
Rezound is locked
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Pirateghost:
which leads it back to a carrier+HTC issue. its not HTC solely, and its not only AT&T. Verizon is in on this too.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ZeroRilix:
+1 I totally agree with that, pg
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] anit77:
I forgot about the Rezound...:o

What would be the reasoning behind HTC only allowing certain devices being unlockable in their dev site and not others unless it was carrier based like Pirate said and is stated on their dev site.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] XAviierG:
True. The sensation has the unlock method. So T-Mobile isn't in it like them probably.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] mohcho:
I'm on Bell in Canada and I unlocked my Raider from the HTCDev site even though it was unlisted there.

I had an HTC Desire-Z which is the same phone as the HTC G2 and ran into similar issues when unlocking it and not knowing why the G2 had more "support" than the DZ?

Same phone, different providers, different issues.

I do agree that us "modders" are in the minority and that the phones will still sell even though there are complaints from a small community that like to have full control of their devices.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Chr0nicDreamz:
I hate to say it but I ditched htc to get the skyrocket and I gotta tell ya. I am impressed with how the phone looks and functions after a complete customization.

HTC = Hate The Consumer
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
I would have done the same if the screen wasn't such a joke.

I almost picked up the LG Nitro, that is the most astounding screen I have ever seen... Jaw dropping!

But the UI was super laggy. I suspect a different launcher might fix it, if not a custom kernal and ROM would... but it was not a risk I was willing to take...

The vivid stock is better than anything else available on AT&T... Since the dev support for LG is bad and no custom ROM is ever going to fix the glaring fault that is the skyrockets screen.

So for me there was no other rational choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Longcat14:
TouchWiz 4.0 is actually really fast...

Yeah, the Nitro has a nice screen, but LG... NOTHANKS.

Also, didn't you hear? Supercurio got a T-Mobile SGS II (same issue as skyrocket), and is going to fix it, so I have no worries about my screen.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] ClippinWings:
wait... "fit it", like Remove the Super AMOLED and replace it with an LCD or IPS?!

That would be sweet!
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rquinn19:
Same as you but went back to the SGS2. Resolutions sucks, but the phone is growing on me. I'm so flash happy all the time (and it doesn't ware off) the Vivid (locked down) just wasn't for me. Still have the Vivid in case it becomes unlocked soon or LTE comes here then I'll reevaluate.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Chr0nicDreamz:
Ya, I've been flashing ROMs like crazy lol. I love HTC n ill give them another shot when their quad core device hits next year. If its locked at the boot loader ill never buy HTC again. The skyrocket display is low Res but its not a bother for me. Little LCD density change n modified apks it looks decent.

HTC = Hate The Consumer
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] trell959:
So I originally was against this thread, hoping that HTC would come to their senses, but they never did. Since then, I returned my vivid and picked up the sgs2

Hate The Customer
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] trell959:
Sorry to dig this back up, but does anyone believe that this ties into CIQ?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jherbold:
Indirectly. I think it is mainly about LTE launch, and the need for information about how the system is performing, which CIQ provides.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] trell959:
Yeah I knew it had to tie in someway. But the lte info makes sense.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Aztecbandit:
Sorry to bring this thread back up, but... remember, us in the (developer/know more than the average joe) community, are just a small percentage of users who would get this phone. The rest of the people who buy this most likely have NO idea what a boot loader even is, I could care less, because i somewhat like the stock ROM, and feel no need to root, my mind may change in a few months, but for now, I'm just saying my two cents, you may argue if you like.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] sportsinger75:
I agree completely. I have no problem with the stock Rom on the Vivid or CIQ, and I'm confident that the average user will not care either and will love this phone.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jaxboater:
I guess I'm not an average user.

I am concerned about the locked bootloader AND CIQ.

The phone is beautiful (looks/display) and GPS is the fastest I've seen other than a CM ROM.

If custom ROMs didn't add value we wouldn't flash them.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
So shall we revisit this thread now that htcdev.com can unlock the bootloader.

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] capman231:
You can unlock the Vivid on Htcdev now?
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] doktor buknasty:
Yes you can
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] capman231:
Worked fine and my Vivid is now unlocked

---------- Post added at 10:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 AM ----------

It worked perfect and my Vivid is now unlocked

Thanks fellows
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] 8125Omnimax:
Instructions to fully delete CIQ and its entries are now up on my post

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=1415335
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] jaxboater:
I got a "404 Page Not Found

The page you requested was not found." error
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
Yup

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] nielp96:
I don't see htc vivid on list of supported devices
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] Tx Redneck:
Just like you don't see the raider, but it works.

Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] nielp96:
Don't see htc raider either.

Can you put a link to it

Edit: nvm I got it unlocked
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] 8125Omnimax:
Fixed Link for CIQ Removal

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1415335

---------- Post added at 04:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:47 PM ----------

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1415335
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] slapshot30:
Nice job. That may need to be stickied or something. I could see a lot of people unlocking for the sole reason of removing CIQ. It's become quite a big deal.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] l Frosty l:
I have the code for my bootloader on the Vivid however when i get to this step: fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin it fails on me. It says: error: cannot load 'Unlock_code.bin'

Any ideas?

I am on a Mac and i followed HTC's instructions

I created my folder in the Desktop and put adb and fastboot in that file
[HD2 General] smithisize:
So I purchased an aftermarket HD2 (TMOUS), but there are two things I would like to remedy.

First, when I long press the end key, the screen becomes unresponsive, across all operating systems. I am hoping I can fix that by replacing the hard buttons, because the rest of the time the screen works great.

Also, I unlocked it to ATT. From what I've read, it cannot use ATT 3g bands due to its antena. Would I be able to purchase an antenna from a non TMOUS HD2 and replace it, then use att 3g bands?

Thanks

Smith
[HD2 General] bib*oops:
As far as I know there's no reason to change antenna, the issue is in the hardware itself and I doubt you( or anybody else) can alter it (in an easy way) in order to change basebands!

You should buy yourself european/international version if you know they're compatible with att 3g bands!

Regards!
[HD2 General] smithisize:
Awesome, that's what I was looking to find out!

Any idea as to the screen problem?? I long press the power button, and screen becomes unresponsive... Otherwise it works. Screen issue or button issue?
[TG01 Windows Phone 7 Development] Nokser:
[HowTo/CommDownld/UPE]★(¯ `•.Update your Windows Phone ® 7 on Tsunagi.•´¯)★[Method#3]

This is a small tutorial, how to update first release Windows Phone ® 7. All info you find in this site.

Step #1

We search program Common Downloader version: 4.7.20 in internet, or … ;) .

Next Install this program in your PC/Laptop.

…in this moment, give to you small package, where is WP7 image and other files.

Extract this package, maiby in example for “windowsphone” folder…..

Step #2

In Tsunagi device you run -> Factory Mode (turn off your phone, and press: up, and down volume + press power button, at one time), Must display a sign on the screen: Factory Mode, etc.

Now you run Common Downloader from directory ZTEiT\Common downloader (find this in Program Files, or in Start Menu)

Go to tab “Multi-Download”…. click “Reflesh”, if you phone not display, in me phone have a port: COM6.

Step #3

In “Multi-Image” tab

In location click “Browse”, and select your folder “windowsphone”

Next click “Advanced”, then you see new windows, and select files:

NPRG8650.hex

partition.mbn

dbl.mbn

fsbl.mbn

osbl.mbn

amss.mbn

apps.mbn – this file you must uncheck ;)

appsboot.mbn

flash.bin

dsp1.mbn

Info: The rest of the files must be unchecked. The order of the files is the order of the program.

Now click “OK”, then press “Start” in line, on COM6.. and waiting for end process.. phone restart, and he run Windows Phone. :D

Everything you do at your own risk. Do not assume, responsibility for any damage.

Download Common Downloader:

...in attach...

Copyright (c) 2010-2011 UPE Production by Nokser

All Right Reserved.
[TG01 Windows Phone 7 Development] bahni:
Where I can download all windows phone files?
[TG01 Windows Phone 7 Development] Nokser:
It's this same files in all topic...