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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brushles83:
I am also having the banding issue. Im noticing it all over the place. Youtube videos, angry birds, android market, xda app.

What are other guys with this problem going to do? Are you going to live with it or return it. I need to make a decision in the next few days so I can return it to my carrier. If waiting until Q2 for ICS is the only option then im gonna send it back.

So what are you other guys with the banding issue doing?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
Duh, because not all phones are affected with screen issues.

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I noticed this on the store demo unit along with the faint lines, mine does not do this. I think it could be a software issue since I have mine at KK9 and the store unit is at KK1.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SAlmighty:
well, after a few days of being a proud owner of this device, I have to say, the lines have disappeared. at all brightness levels, I don't see it. :confused:

white used to be messy; now they are flawless, what gives?

BTW--updating to 2.3.6 soon, I guess that would help a bit.

definitely software
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
No idea but if its software all phones should have the same density of the lines, so far I've seen 3 and they are non identical. Also if its software then what you changed should also fix it for everyone.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SAlmighty:
Well, the screens are not 100% identical and could be presenting other problems too; not just these faint lines. Software can may be try to alleviate the problem but will not 100% rectify it. Interestingly, the lines on my Note disappeared while charging last night and the room was a bit warm. :confused:

I remember someone mentioning that he was using the display for a few hours consistently and the lines vanished as well; never came back. I don't know if this is significant in any way.

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here is the funny part, all Notes and SGS2's have problems one way or the other. If no display issue, there is a probably a motherboard fault, and so on and so forth. I don't think there is really a "perfect" display out there, a line or two doesn't have to show up in a typical environment; but when you go into a dark room and perform LCD test, for sure you will see one in presence of a black background. AMOLED technology has work pending, lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
1 or 2 lines on the screen that is faintly visible is acceptable but having more than 85% of the screen covered with it is horrible, though I've yet to see one that has no lines but I believe some screens dont have it as visible as mine.

Since you claim its a software issue, what software related changes have you made?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickelsilver:
Hi guys, I have bought the note the 28th of november, and now it is in warranty back to samsung hoping they will solve my problems:

1)I have banding

2)I have vertical and horizontal darker lines in grays and whites mostly, they are horrible

3)All my phone creaks

4)The screen has a green tint

5)after 13 days of use, the screen BROKE. Yes, the part of the screen between the edge and the speaker above samsung logo is divided in two by a strong line, and i can see it is separated.

It never fell or hurt anything. So, it must be in warranty because i did't use it badly!

I'm so angry and i hope they'll fix my problems. I spent 700 euros and i want a perfect product, after 5 days i went to the reseller, but they sad it had not any problem and that the screen was perfect and refused to change it, it can be because i am in italy. So angry... so i decided to call samsung.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brushles83:
So have we established now that everyone has the banding issue as demo'd with the xda login screen?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
Yes, its believed to be a software issue since screenshots can also capture it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
Nothing "duh" about it....many users and some developers are already reporting the Note as having a problematic screen, making many other users giving up buying the Note

Gladly there are tons of more experienced users reporting a "perfect" screen of the Note and I confirmed that on all show-models I tested.

The record shows that 80% of the issues are more user-error related than anything else.

For instance, there are users already applying all kind of memory management tweaks on a device that does not need such tweaking'.....

Even me in the beginning, got in trouble after flashing all kind of mod roms and other tweaks, till I learned that some mods do more evil than good....(long story)

All Notes? All sgs2's ? Really?

If , let's say 12 million of sgs 2 devices were sold, and 2000 users reported issues (founded or not), because those users with problems are always the ones to ring the bell, and being vocal about it , and the one's with no issues doesn't even know that Forums like this one even exist, how can you possibly state that ?

Conclusion:

I know the Note won't have the same audio quality (for music) as my sgs1, but it have to be better in every other field...nearly perfect...

Otherwise I'll return it right away....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Like many others I also have screen issues and feel like they are so bad that I want to return the device. I'm expecting the people at the store will tell me that there is nothing wrong with it, so what kind of independent tests can I do to prove that the screen is bad?

The issues suffered are:

* Black pixelation/clipping in video youtube and HD-mp4/mkv's that doesnt show this on any of my other devices. (This is so annoying that I've stopped watching anything on the Note)

* Green tint when looking at the screen from ~20 degree angle. At 45 degrees i white web page looks very greenish.

* Banding (mostly seen on gray background). The banding is definitely visible but I can live with it since it's not seen when having a more mixed content on the screen, although I kind of think that a device for $700 should not have this.

The "lightness & slimness"-move included on the device doesn't show the pixelation of deep blacks so I can't show this as an example and whatever else I will show they will just say that it's badly encoded or something right?

The only thing I guess is valid to say is about the green tint at those strict viewing angles.

What did you other guys say that made the store take your phone back or let you try another phone to check differences? I don't think my store even has a demo of the Note to compare with and they are probably not very keen on breaking the box of one they intend to sell.

I'm thinking of bringing my Galaxy S2, Kindle Fire and HTC Desire (all other android devices I own) and show that the same clip plays just fine on all of those.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
So whats your main point, I dont understand what your trying to get at.

Would you care to explain how can those lines be a user related issue, I've already performed a few factory resets on my phone with the stock firmware and same with the 2 units from the samsung show room.. Id like to know more about this from your point of view that it is a user related error.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elfary:
What country are you living in ? I think in the European Union buyers have a 7 day period for returns with no questions asked. At least in Spain is that way.

Back on track with the topic this screen issue is the last big hurdle between me and the Note. As an iPhone user i had to weigh in the loss in sound quality i'll be suffering, then the loss in battery life and stability...i would take those for the sake of a huge screen but...if the screen is buggy the whole deal begins to make little sense.

It's hard to assess the percentage of units affected by screen issues (In the case that it's not all of them because these issues seem to come and go).

Really confused since i would hate to enter in purchase/return/replacement dreaded loop.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
The demo video only has single shade of black which is 00000, the demo even looks a LOT better on the Galaxy S2 since it has deeper blacks, the difference is extremely HUGE!!

Im happy that my note does not have this issue, no green tinting even at the most extreme angle.

Long term samsung issue, since Galaxy S1.. Theres probably no hope for this to be EVER fixed unless ICS is enforcing a 24bit rendering system wide. Till then I would expect samsung to still force 16bit rendering.

Theres nothing you can do with the black levels on the Note, either wait and hope ICS fixes it or some talented dev.

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Why not test at the store, let them know that your interested on the device but you've heard a lot of screen issues and would prefer that they assist you in getting a phone with out a screen isssue.

This feels like the Galaxy S2 all over again, I still didnt learn my lesson :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elfary:
The suggestion is appealing but the problem is that brick and mortar stores in Madrid charge for it between 600 and 700 Euros and amazon just 531. This money wise it would seem better to grab it off amazon. And what i've gathered from this long thread is that the issue might not be apparent at first but just appear out of the blue.

What's the lesson about SGS2 that you talk about ?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
Similar screen issues with the S2 but the yellow tinting on the left side was quite wide spread, the thread till now on the S2 forums still gets a reply from time to time and new thread pop up once in a while. Check my sig if you want to know all the details in 240 pages.

I am not entire disappointed with my note but the lines are pretty irritating at times.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elfary:
I'd appreciate if you just could tell me the was outcome of that SGS2 issue.

I'm beginning to think that Samsung Amoleds are just a bit lousy thus it's either you take it or you look somewhere else. Problem is that there is no other 5.3 screen smartphone.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dt33:
Got mine 2nd replacement unit and its SAME as mine 1st one. :(

One thing that I dont understand, bandings shows on the calculator too on both Notes I have right now and it doesnt show after I uploaded to computer?

This is a screenshot taking on the Note and uploaded to picasa. But no bandings? :confused:

I tried download same picture to the Note, opened with both Galllery and QuicPic (set to force 32bit). Then the bandings is back on mine Note!
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
Never mind I already posted my main point long ago here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1336187&page=38

and on other posts...

I hope I will have more luck with my Note, than you guys and perhaps, after being more experienced with it, I will have more constructive tips...

What is your main point by the way? What are your objective conclusions and and cause of action? Any tips?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
3 faulty replacements and another 4 faulty in-store. Got a refund instead.

Im not sure if they are lousy but im positive they stepped down the quality control since my first 2 samoled devices had flawless screesn (S1/Wave)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
It's just a shot in the dark, cause I dont have my own note yet, but Supercurio and Chainfire developed some screen tune apps for the sgs2 and who knows something like this will show up for the Note too?

http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/09/29/how-to-improve-samsung-galaxy-s2-screen-display-colour/

Another shot in the dark, but try doing some adjustments here:

www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
lol wut? How?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elfary:
Thanks a lot for that valuable info. What a painful consumer experience. It's exactly what i don't want to go through.

Thus i'll look at this assuming that these days Samsung SAMOLEDS are inherently faulty so if you buy one unit better be ready to live with these issues cause the returning cycle will not solve what looks like a manufacturing deffect somewhere along the assembly chain.

It's a pity actually that such a big display has to have such many issues. I hope that samsung can step up their game for future displays.

Now the question to assess is if that issues do harm the user experience or you have to look for them (in a screen detective disguise ;)

To me it's all about the user experience anyway. Hence i must decide whether to stick to a 3.5 flawless screen or jump to an unreliable 5.3 display.

ahhhh choices to be made.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
Probably the visible horizontal and vertical lines has the biggest harm to the user experience as it quite obvious in white,grey and other lighter shades.

Some might not notice the lines, I wish I had their kind of visual acuity ( or blindness )

I've attached an image bellow, for those who would like to test just view the jedi image on your note compare it with your PC screen or ANY other device, its gonna look horrible on the note with visible lines ( if your phone is affected ) and they greys will show up as greenish. correct colors on the S1/S2/Wave and even on my 5800. The attached image may look better but on my actual note the lines are about twice as obvious as it is on the picture.

The 3rd image is supposed to be a light grey color, notice how visible the lines are and how uneven the image is.

4th image is what I would call the ultimate color test, view it on the note and together with another device may it be an older smart phone or a regular TN monitor and compare the image, its gonna be greenish vs greys, this color also makes the lines even more obvious.

5th image is from a friend's G-Note same lines issue and greenish greys.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Floating Point:
I'm planning to buy a Galaxy Note next week, but those screen issues really scary me. I plan to buy by an official Samsung dealer, so no worries regarding warranty, but I mean, it's $600 for a phone with all those issues, if I get a lemon I'll loose too much time for RMA's, our postal services are really slow.

Unfortunately I can't go to the store to check the screen since it's a online store, I don't have a local store selling the Galaxy Note.

Where did you buy yours and how much you paid? I'm planning to buy mine at Colombo.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avetny:
I got so many phones....

In my experience saw bandings when I change my Density from 240 to 180, or 190., sometimes 200.

We got our note with Density hack. Im not believe to high resolution screens on phones...because for me again it's density hack.

Example I took my backUp phone Nexus S (fully hacked with Cyanogen), I change there DENSITY from 240 to 200 ! And I saw right away "bandings "

example:

If you see it's only 200dpi ! At 190-180 it's much more crazy...

The reason is PICTURE is not optimize for high resolution.

We got on Note damn density hack, but software not still perfect. Example on my helper Nexus S after I changed DPI to 200 some apps like phone dialer is weird, calculator also got same**** !...some pictures from Zedge are weird also (small resolution)...but some of them are perfect....(and that some pictures got good resolution )
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
On that site you can navigate through tons of images and compare those images against another device "supposed" to have a better screen (in my case the sgs1)

Interesting thing:

Somebody suggested me to install the xda app and check if there is banding on the splash-screen image.

Went back to the show model, installed the app, and indeed I could see the rough banding meaning no smooth gradient as in my sgs ...

Funny thing: if I check the images from here:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gradient.php (again the site that made you laugh)

The gradient is as smooth as on my sgs...no banding

That makes me wonder....is the banding on xda app's splashcreen due a screen issue or is because, maybe, that image/resolution is not really optimized for the Note's screen?

Really, this is not a rhetorical question, I really want to know....

Did I finally reproduce an issue (xda app splashscreen banding) ?

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hey thanks...gonna test that on my sgs (with nitralty app) and then try that splashscreen again
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Datosss:
Just got rid of mine second Note which had cyclical hue shifting issue. Waiting for new portion of phones to come to the store. But I still got another one - that is perfect and has no issues what-so-ever.

By the way, although it is perfect (has no hue, banding and artifacts problems) - calculator app still shows distracting hard transitions on blue color at the top... Seems like calculator is forcing even less than 16 bit color.

I suggest not to judge upon phone screen problems checking only calculator app...
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avetny:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! exactly 16 bit !!!

We got so many system apps with 16bit color's !

On high resolution screens YOU WILL SEE BANDING FOR SURE.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mfractal:
Hey mate, i actually ordered mine through ebay and fedexed it (asked the seller to declare it as 300$, since our lovely customs charge about 100% taxes..)

Didn't have patience to wait for them to appear in local stores, plus there will be only blue/black ones here.

And this is from an official Samsung rep i met at Vivo last time i visited - was funny, all the store including the Samsung rep gathered around to stare at my white note :)

He told me that they will first appear in fastshop so maybe you'd want to call in and check if they already have stock.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avetny:
BTW is true that is NO blue and black color? it's a same dark blue !

I order it my with US warranty (blue color)

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Can you please tell me where he made in ?? Korea, china? or maybe Hong Kong
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
Lol....Just set the dpi on my sgs from 240 to 200....now I see banding on that splash screen...

Another funny thing....I did try to install Nitralty on the Note in order to play with the dpi...

But it doesnt work on the Note.....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mfractal:
Yes it's true. There's only the dark blue version that in some countries is called black (which is how it looks anyway :D )

I know of at least two phones coming from HK with perfect screens.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avetny:
thank you mfractal !

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try "LCDDensity for root" in app market :)

or you can do manually from Root explorer.

go to Root explorer> click mount R/W and make it Mount R/O

Than go to system> hold "build.prop" and open in Text Editor>

find there something like this:

ro.sf.lcd_density=240 (change for anything you wont :P ). Restart the phone :)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
Well I will.....but I don't own a Note yet :rolleyes: Gonna get my in January

Do you own one? Did you adjust the dpi in order to remove banding, or you dont mind it (me neither, I was just trying very hard to reproduce the so many "issues" reported over here...)

I only hope this thread is not being hijacked by trolls :D :D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sibere:
No changes at a density of 240
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seepage:
Is that sarcasm?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brushles83:
Can you guys check to see if you have this same problem for me please.

Go to Readers Hub, select the magazine store

The store has a grey kinda granite background. Just watch the screen and see if the HUE/temp color changes. Mine keeps switching between a more greenish color and then back to the darker grey. It's very subtle though.

I'm just trying to find out if i need to return my unit or not.

Thanks in advance for anyone who tries it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
No green to grey color change on mine, but when I took the gamma test image to the store demo unit I think it was number 10 and 14 that kept changing to green from time to time and it was under the gallery.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Floating Point:
Damn, I want Galaxy Note so bad, even with a lot of people complaining about screen issues, I'm going to take the risk and order mine, wish me good luck guys so I get a perfect unit :p
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
Good luck as long as you know what to expect there should be no worries.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cenkaetaya:
I just had my Chinese GF call some of the stores found on this site http://www.price.com.hk

which seems to have the best IN STORE prices in HK. and 2 of the stores said they will allow you to get another if there are problems and the first store said that all of them have the lines, even the white one.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EarlZ:
Lines? You mean the vertical/horizontal lines? A friend of mine just bought her note today and her screen has no lines.. she can even easily tell which phone is hers at more than an arm's length distance. Probably later on I'll have this phone exchanged when Im bored of it.. right now im pretty much enjoying it despite the lines.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brushles83:
Just ordered a replacement for mine. If that has issues then I'll switch to the nexus.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seepage:
Sorry can't leave this crap in your posting..... good comeback though ...

Have sent you my bank account details too just to be sure.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
I thought you should be careful with your phone's IMEI..

Sending it out there is not such a good idea imo
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seepage:
But not by you.

Think I will keep it that way.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 9a6or:
Datosss,

Ask an email address from Samsung where people can send details of their faulty units and post that email address here.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Datosss:
Ok. On Monday I'll do so...

Or why you people just can't turn to samsung facebook page and bomb it with your IMEI's with faulty screens. Maybe, this would be more effective way to make them at least notice the problem
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seepage:
People can contact samsung themselves if they want Mr one post.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 9a6or:
I think people would trust a formal Samsung email address more. Don't take this all personal, people are just cautious. You are trying to help but it has to be done safely.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] betoNL:
Where did that IMEI fishing post go? :D

So because our IMEI numbers get enough leaked, it's ok to send it to a complete stranger :D:D:D

No thanks !

Every phone have a production number and a serial number which are also useful in these situations ( when contacting Samsung, helpdesks , etc, etc....)