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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Bradart:
Pretty sure it's plastered on every guide because a restore is easier than actual troubleshooting. If my phone bootloops or has some other such issue, I'll typically solve it using adb or fastboot. I only ever needed to actually utilize a nandroid for something other than convenience exactly one time in the 3 years and 8 android phones I've been doing this throughout.

Edited to fix some typos.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
What app are you using in this screenie please? Love the details
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
Looks like MIUI's rom

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lackonne:
I really like with screen colour but if I brightness set to lower my screen goes to green
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
That's a Rom issue. Try Oxygen. No issues with green screen.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lackonne:
Thanks for info but it not happened in previus build.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] dpeeps74:
You just need to adjust your voodoo settings, particularly gamma control iirc.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] lackonne:
My problem solved it just need voodoo app
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] DtownJeff:
Thank You for the update. Running Carbon 1.1 with 11-17 cfs. Stock colors look better. I reset voodoo to default and the only change is under Gamma I clicked "Alt Settings". (Punchy was a little too much for me). I used to spend a lot of time tweaking the gamma and multipliers, but I want to keep things easy. I have enjoyed this kernel. Keep up the great work!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
Cool. Your right it is easier. So, what would you be doing w/ adb & fastboot to start solving a boot loop?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
I still do not see deep idle in effect

? Running latest.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
Also will not charge past 98?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Bradart:
Fastboot if I need to flash a partition in its entirety, adb to go in and remove an app or its data. A good example is when a cpu setting is set to run at boot but is incompatible with the kernel you flash. I just "rm data/data/com.appthatisfuckinmyshitup.app" and reboot. I had to do the same thing to cmsettings when the center ring lock created a kernel panic when swiped.

Other than those things, flashing a working kernel/rom over the top of the broken setup and/or clearing the cache and dalvik cache should solve pretty much every issue you have, provided the rom your flashing is a different iteration of the rom you broke.

It's interesting how you said i was right to shut me up and then asked how I do what I do.

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In the terminal or adb shell type

cat /sys/class/misc/batterylifeextender/charging_limit

The output value should be your charging limit. To change it, you should be able to just echo "100" into that file. If the rom your using has init.d support, you could drop a script in there to make the change persistent. Unless, of course, that value isn't you problem :P
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
shut you up? lol. complex much? or just disbelief when someone agrees?

my first post was simply a best practice reminder. it has saved me, and quite frankly flashing x kernel, over y kernel, over z kernel, over y rom, over z rom, over x rom is recommended against by several devs.

me agreeing was w/ your point that a nandroid is the easy solution and there are indeed other ways to solve the same issue. its sort of the beautiful thing about linux based devices, eh?

i find my way easier and less hassle free, but was honestly curious about how you would have gone about it. i thought of my example, and couldn't think of how I would have used either to solve my bootloop.

remind me why sharing knowledge is a bad thing?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Bradart:
Sorry. My first impression of your agreement was that it was sarcastic. My bad.

I find that, in a way, nandroids are hassle free but, in the ways that are important to me, they are much more of a hassle. I pretty much dread having to do a nandroid restore because the data within my apps and the apps I have installed changes so wildly and frequently that, unless I make a backup, do something, and immediately restore, I've lost something I don't want to lose. If it takes me 25 minutes at the command line but I don't lose anything, it was a successful terminal session :)

Edited because proofreading is a talent I'm still developing
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
It's 100. I'm using oxygen ROM and NSTOOLS. Still does not charge to 100, and deep idle doesn't appear to be working either.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Bradart:
Hmmmm... I am not sure, then. I can tell you, though, that I am yet to try using NSTools with any kind of regularity without it breaking something for me. I'm not going to claim that this is your issue, but that's my experience with it.

I think we can all safely assume that your phone is haunted. I'm going to need three chickens, a jar of crunchy peanut butter, the blood of an innocent man, and a jar filled with tears wept with a sense of regret.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
For the battery try charging as high as you can. Power down your phone, while plugged in, wait until your phone shows full white bars, boot into recovery, wipe batt stats, power down, pull the battery for 5 minutes, put the battery back in, reboot. Worth a try worked for me.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
I can't stop laughing

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] ZiggSVO:
I'm not sure Franco has included the purely cosmetic 100% battery tweak.

Info on BLX :

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
I have had no problem charging to 100% with my above method used. GLaDOS by default only charges to 96% and does not include the cosmetic 100% charge that this kernel does. So this should show 100% when fully charged even though it's really only 95-96% people begged and pleaded for it so Franco added it.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
lol. go ahead and murder the alphabet. as long as your note doing 3l|t3 talk I'll figure it out ;)

yeah I dread the same when switching ROMs and stuff. app data, SMS/MMSs especially. If I want to save those, its a whole new step thats usually rather long. I like to keep my texts.

Edited because I wanted to change that "note" to "not", but I'm going to leave it for nostalgia's sake.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Braneless:
I use the SMStoText app (by Schmegma or something) from the market for text message backup - works like a charm. The app will save your SMS as text or csv files to your sd card and can restore them very quickly upon new rom setup.

Try it, it's a great app!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
More concerned that deepidle doesn't seem to be working for me.

Are stats enable in nov17th stable ?

I don;t seem to have any anywhere ?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
I'll try it but does it do MMS? That seemed to be the most lacking thing amongst all the SMS backup apps. I was running one that I sort of liked, it actually backs up all your SMS and even MMS as attachments to a gmail label. Stays out of sight, but retrievable and even searchable.

I need those MMSes for.. well.. you know.. ;) a chronological "history"

on another note I've been trying to get an answer to the difference between top=on and top=off in deep idle. do you know?i get under 100ms times in both for a few hours of phone being on and it seems too short of a time? starting to wonder if I have something taking up wakelocks.

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cat /sys/class/misc/deepidle/idle_stats
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
Thanks. I am getting stats now from NSTOOLS.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
you probably just didn't have any stats.

all cat does is "concatenate". IE: spit out the contents of this file.

It didn't "activate" deep idle or enable stats or anything like that. its the equivalent of opening up a text file in notepad.

I'm sure nstools just parses the same file for its stats.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
I should have had some stats. I don't understand why I didn't. I rebooted, Maybe that kicked something into place...who knows. anyway. happy now.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
If off the topic I apologize. I read in another thread to turning camera on then off helps with stats.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
All the patches have been applied on the latest build so nothing needs to be done.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
Should it show up in the NSTools Idle Stats?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
Yes with the screen off it should start logging stats

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] method2madness:
Man...What app is that!? Me likey.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] info[]box1:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=905999

[App] Battery Monitor Widget
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kjaved373:
Its actually the battery status for the miui rom, can't get it on any other rom.

maybe it was day one, but battery life good again! :D

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] method2madness:
Ugh..Oh well. Guess I'll stick with the stock stats. Thanks for replying. :)

Thanks for the link, but that's not quite the same app. I have Batt Mon Pro, and actually removed it as it was actually draining the battery while monitoring it. Even with the longest update settings. Kinda weird, but oh well. :)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] petrochemicals:
Is anyone using this kernel on Cyanogen 7.1.0.1? If so, what are your settings? Do you use live oc past 100. Do you have to change your voltages to work with live oc over 100?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
Yeah definitely working
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] TheBurgh:
I have been running versions of this kernel for the past 2 weeks. It by far has been the most stable and smoothest for me. Many Thanks.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
Everyone's phone is a little different and acts differently with tweaks. I don't think anyone can tell you what settings are best. You may want to tinker with them, carefully, and see what works best with your phone.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] randyist:
I definitely notice less shutter lag with the camera in this ROM. It's almost shooting like the Soon-to-be-released Galaxy Nexus with no lag. I must say that I'm really impressed with the this speed - fastest out there. Nice work!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
Wrong forum?

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] randyist:
I'm sorry. I meant to say that I'm using this kernel with Oxygen 2.3/ICS mix ROM. But it's This Kernel that makes the ROM worth using. the default Kernel used by Oxygen 2.3 is nothing compared to Franco kernel.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
No need to apologize. Agreed. This thing smokes with Oxygen ;-)

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
second time today I got a deep idle bug. phone wouldn't wake up :(
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
I have been running mine for the past two days with DI off and it seems to get better battery life for my use.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kevincwelch:
Been wondering this myself.

How would you characterize your usage?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
It certainly does. This thing is amazing. 11hours odd and only 48%. incredible. Awesome stuff Franco.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
I love this kernel regardless. I just think that for the way that I use my phone it is not necessary. This is day three with it off and my battery I can say for sure now is better with it off. Everybody's different and so are their phones.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] chalan30:
you know i was starting to suspect that as well... how much and for what do you use your phone if you dont mind.

thanks

edit: nvm i didnt see that kevncwelch had asked you the exact same thing.... it pays to refresh your screen ;)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kevincwelch:
You've got some great Sprint signal. Mine pretty much sucks.

What's your screen on time?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] formula84:
Right I have never seen so much green
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] FL0OD:
I use my phone pretty average I am guessing. Couple hundred texts total, back and forth. Internet browsing, Facebook, Twitter, and a short drive to work and back I use it in the car listen to music via BT. I do read a lot on it, several hours a day. I don't play games on it or stream video very often. I am always on 3 or 4G, no wifi, and no GPS. They are off because I just don't use them. 8 hours of sleep, 8 at work, where I only text and read on my lunch. I get about a day and a half off the charger. After I flash Francos latest and greatest, do a full charge, and wipe my batt stats it takes about one good cycle before things settle in for me. When I was using DI I was getting 16-18 hours so I have been able to see a difference. I am running Oxygen 2.3.2, Francos latest, always, no live OC, no DI, no script tweaks, just straight up Franco. I have tried every kernel out there my phone just runs the best on this. Never made it more than a day on any other and always come back. Another random stat, I pull 4-6 gigs of data on a average month with crap service, which always effects my battery greatly, so I toggle it off at work because it is a blackhole where all data comes to die. That's all I can think of without spouting more boring info.

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[Nexus S 4G Android Development] chalan30:
Thanks for the info. thats way more use than my phone gets so hopefully i can eek out some more battery with the right setup. My prior setups were with oxygen 2.3.2 and the latest kang + francos 1117 CFS and i would get down like 30% after 10 or 12 hours, but i just flashed CM nightly 174 and franco's 1117 BFS and im now at 60% after 13 hours, with DI enabled, liveoc 100, stock voltages. Honestly im surprised as hell that a nightly is doing this well on battery but im thinking that might be that my phone just really likes BFS, Ill probably try oxygen again with franco's BFS kernel and turn DI off. Ill report back bc i dont hear a lot of talk about BFS's performance.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
Wow srsly? My sprint signal here in NYC has been stellar.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kevincwelch:
I live in the suburbs of Chicago, and in my house, the best I typically get is 1-2/4 bars. The hospital I work at has signal boosters (repeaters??) and I get 2-3 bars, but otherwise, the signal pretty much sucks unless I go into the city where it is great. 4G is also mediocre...when I connect.

I'm convinced it all is part of my battery issue.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
Still getting screen off freezes where hitting power doesn't wake phone back up. Requires battery pull. I've already increased my voltages, is there anything else to try? It's a killer because I use the phone as an alarm.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] ZiggSVO:
You can increase then more, or raise your min frequency
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] chalan30:
Kernel ICS?

what have you been up to mr Franco?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Esteway.619:
He update a ICS kernel:)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] AwesomeTurtle:
I'm running this kernel in conjunction with the latest NSCollab ROM. Battery life with some voltage settings from page 11 of this thread has been fabulous.

Well done, francomeister. My phone is just about perfect now.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Thanks for the heads up on that. The colors seem so much richer on this kernel. First time trying this (ICS version) are there any special settings I should make here?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kevincwelch:
1: get a real alarm!

2: Set you min frequency to 200; see if that works.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] wild1z:
The wife says, "Why didn't you wake me up?" I say, "Get a real alarm"! "What are you like 5 years old?" LOL Slept on the couch for the next couple nights. ;) Good advice though.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
Gosh I can't wait for married life. ;)

Took above advice on increasing max to 200 (it was at 110). Then I came on this forum I read the advice. Smart minds think alike :)

Also upped my voltages by 10 but they were already 20+ from stock.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] wild1z:
Good to see you fixed it. On the married thing, you will do fine, I am an asshole/somebeech. Always learning what not to say. Do as I have learned not as I have done. ;)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
not sure if i fixed it yet. just testing that setup. everything else is working so good, the unable to wake up is just killing me.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] wild1z:
Did you try to flash the resetNStools zip yet through recovery? I don't remember if you used NSTOOLS but that might clear up the wake issue.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Sputnikk23:
no haven't seen it mentioned before. i downloaded nstools once but never really used it. i remember having the issue but not as much prior to that though.

I'm hopeful of the upping min to 220 instead of 110.

The phone isn't "OFF" when it locks (otherwise I'd be able to hold power and turn it back on)

BLN is ON. (Keys are lit up).

Battery pull and upon rebooting you can see a hard break in the battery line which tells me nothing remotely resembling an application was running in the background.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
Man, I have this phone and an Epic Touch. I bought a paid alarm app even. I can set 3 alarms on both phones and sleep through all of them. "Go buy a real alarm clock" is necessary for me I guess
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] pewipo123:
i love sittin here on the ****ter reading all this...i learn so much!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] wild1z:
BLN sucked on my phone too. So I pitched it. It works on some kernels flawlessly and on others not so much. Since I am a chronic flasher, it has been hit or miss and I just decided to not mess with it.

I suggest you boot into recovery after you download the resetNStools zip to the SD card. Flash it. Then reboot and set up NSTOOLs again. Or do the above and reset, flash and wipe.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1333696
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
This Kernel is the **** on both latest oxygen and nscollab ROMs. They both fly.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] AwesomeTurtle:
Yep. I've been using this kernel with the latest NSCollab for about 4 days now, and I can safely say that this is the best setup I've ever had.

*Note: Deep idle also worked after I installed the non-camera GTalk
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
I still don't know if deep idle is working or not though.

**edit. And a reboot brings them back. Weird.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] AwesomeTurtle:
Mine looked just like that prior to the GTalk change. Here's my phone now:
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] got2best:
Did everyone move to ics? Lol its not stable enough for me :/ and it always slowed down even with Franco's kernal.. but Ginger bread with Franco's kernal is the fastest thing I have ever had..
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] grifforama:
What's the gtalk change and why does it help?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] fergie716:
Read the OP here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1297535
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] fergie716:
I go back and forth but always have Francos kernel either way lol.. Best kernel and dev..
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Not an indirect attack..

You're good ;D
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] fergie716:
Are you kidding me? Dude, I'm not obsessed about you so get over yourself. I say something nice about a kernel developer and you take it personally? Jesus
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] method2madness:
Ummm.... You do realize it's entirely OK if people choose to use other kernels beside yours, right?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
It was a freaking joke!! Jeez

It was meant to be funny lol
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] got2best:
I got your joke!.. this guys are idiots! I bet neither of them can even make a kernal! I'm on ur side mathkid! ;) .. when. I read that post before I even on to this one I was cracking up! That's something I would have said.. lol!
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] method2madness:
Umm. Are you retarded?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Alright forget it...

Lets just say its my bad and move on
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] wild1z:
Leave the comedy to me kid. ;)

Math, maybe you can help me with a question about this kernel, please. I have been bouncing between yours and these others and all of these including yours are very good and I am very appreciative of all you do, anyway why do you suppose I don't have top on stats with nstools? Do you think I have the wrong gubnah? everything "Lazy" is default settings except I have the backlight timer on. Got any ideas?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] SA-07:
Do you have deep idle enabled?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] wild1z:
Yes I do. The off stats are propagated with numbers just not the on. With yours it was opposite but never both.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] Maximilian Mary:
Top on is used when gps, Bluetooth, etc, are active.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] franciscofranco:
TOP=ON is for BT, GPS, Vibrate and 4G.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] wild1z:
Thank you Max and Franco. I have never retained that piece of knowledge in my readings here. My Parents bought me books and sent me to college, I just ended up chewing the covers off of the books. ;)
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] method2madness:
Me either. Don't feel bad! I KNEW I saw the TOPON definition somewhere, but for the life of me, I couldn't find it and didn't wanna look like a tool asking again. :)

Thanks for taking one for the team! :D
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] strung:
What is difference between top=on and top=off? does one use more energy than the other?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] franciscofranco:
How hard is it to read 4 posts above yours?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] strung:
I have read that and still don't understand; that's why I asked the question. What does Top mean? Are they two different power states? Does one power down more "stuff" than the other?

Nobody is born knowing everything.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] kevincwelch:
Just installed the 23 Nov release. Still as smooth and zippy as the previous versions.

Nice work again, FF!

Currently running 880/110 (OC 110) with ondemand. No issues. Have deep idle on and am getting TOP=OFF stats. Started playing with the voltages, and the phone froze -- required a battery pull.

I'm using NS Tools, but I have Voltage Control as well. What voltages are people using?
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] JohnCorleone:
I know it got buried in the ICS ROM thread but if someone can tell me how I want to set up NSTools for overclock, I would appreciate it
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] ZiggSVO:
You need to raise your voltages first then make the number in the live oc box above 100. Like 110 will give you

10% more on each step. 1000 becomes 1100.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] vertigosrs:
Was there any major changes between the two ice kernels? I ran the first one fine but when I switched to the 11-23 kernel I've gotten 3 sod's already when I never had any with the first Franco kernel. No settings have been changed just a simple kernel update. Any ideas? If nothing else I could switch back to the other version.
[Nexus S 4G Android Development] fergie716:
Check out the changelog here

The 11-24-11 update is a lot more stable.. should clear up those issues