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[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] gelocks:
Hello everyone.

Recently ordered a Samsung Sidekick 4G and reading on the forums

I noticed people saying that this device lags a lot, has random FCs, etc. and

that they way of getting "rid" of this was by rooting and installing

custom roms. As you might have figured by my low post count, I'm

a newbie with regards to Android phones or Android in general. So

I have a couple of questions.

I know where to look if I want to take the chance and do this

by following this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1275116

(thank God and moderators for stickies!-- making life easier :-p)

But I would like to know:

1) What are the advantages of having Sidekick custom roms (apart

from the usual root access and what not). Is the stock Rom that bad?

Does it have lots of bloat slowing the phone?

2) Has anyone tried the different Roms out there and can I have

an assessment of what they do/offer? (i.e. which one you think

is the best with regards to battery life, bundle of sw, etc for

a newb). Basically their strenghts and weaknesses as I wouldn't want

to lose something important such as network services (i.e. 3G, WiFi, etc.)

And yes, I know that I can try them for myself, but I haven't

even received the phone and I'm scared sh!+less of rooting

don't want to think about repeating the process of the link

above to keep trying different Roms... so I will rely on your

experiences.

3) Since I wont be receiving OTA updates with or without a custom

Rom (I don't have t-mobile, it's an unlocked phone...), do

custom Roms already have stuff from OTA updates??

4) If Android 2.3 update is released for the Sidekick, will it

be available as a "custom" rom? Is that how it works for people

that don't get OTA updates?

5) If I decide to stick with stock Rom, could I still "root"

the phone and play with overclocking and all that jazz?

Finally,

6) What's the meaning of life?!?!?

Hope you can help me with these questions if you can.

And if you don't want to help me... then ... I'll be sad...

for a couple of minutes! ;-)

BTW I also ordered an LG Optimus Quantum just to also try the Windows

OS and compare between both, Android and Windows experiences

(I come from Symbian... Nokia FTW!!! ;-))

Thanks!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] GuestK0045:
to question 4 it will be incorporated to the customs roms no doubt

to question 2 i have used gingerclone v2, lighting rom v2 , touchmiuiwiz, and glorious i like glorious the most so far and dislike lighting v2 the most gingerclone and touchmiui is the same rom different themes

to question 5 you can still root it and overclock it

to question 1 you get d can get better battery life, less bloatware, better signal,

to question 3 on the ota we used kg2 which was an ota as a mix with kd1
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Reviewers:
that was harsh xtreme .
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] GuestK0045:
saying i disliked the rom the most when basically i used 3 roms? thats not being harsh
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] beauTOICHI:
IMO any rom developed by ayoteddy is worth checking out. Also always be sure to fully read each rom thread's first post; everything you need to know should be there.

And personally I wouldn't flash any rom or attempt to root until you're comfortable using adb commands (I've soft bricked a couple of phones myself and that's no fun at all).

There's a bunch of good youtube tutorials outlining everything from rooting to flashing custom roms. Good luck with everything and welcome to the sk4g family!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] LostSoul119:
It was not harsh. lol. it's his opinion.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] yoyowhatup22:
I have used gcv2 and glorius i loved the first but the later is def. Better, u can root without a custom rom. And dont fret about flashing a rom, this is my first phone that iv flashed, rooted etc. And yes after a week or so the stock launcher started lagging. Although i only got fc's on zeam
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] gelocks:
Thanks for the responses so far!

And I'll definitely stick with the stock settings but if I begin to experience bugs or lags, I'll definitely look into this! Now I have to check why the heck I'm only getting EDGE!! WTF?!! lol

Thanks.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] GuestK0045:
go to wireless ettings and swtich from gsm to gs/wcda mode
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] gelocks:
I FAILED!!! :-(

I think I'm going to have to resell this phone on eBay...

I just noticed WHY it wont connect in 3G... T-Mobile phones seem to be "configured" to use the 1700 band but my service provider does 3G like AT&T and I think they use 1900...

Oh well... back to my second option... the Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro...

Thanks guys!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] eurohomie:
with a custom ROM battery usage decreases in some cases and it also allows for more customization of your phone. Like in some ROMs you can change your transition effects, dock settings, and menu settings. It allows you to pick how you want your phone to look. For most people that got the OTA update their phone got really bad with freezes and force closes, you'd have to reboot your phone every day. In the end if you don't like a ROM you can always switch back.

I've tried a few and at the moment i'm using glorious overdose by ayoteddy and sduvick. This ROM is very smooth and very nice but doesn't allow for as much customization as touchMUI or GingerClone. TouchMui allows you to customize the behaviors of your phone like menu, transitions, etc. through launcherpro which comes with the ROM, BUT it wants you to buy launcherPro when you try to do certain functions. Now i'm a newby too, barely rooted and flashed my phone a few weeks ago, as well as somebody that works with me. I've also experienced alot less forceclose issues with glorious overdose.

There aren't really that many OTA updates but from what i've seen the devs here get stuff before it's actually released, such as KJ2, which we havent officially recieved yet. The one OTA update that happened actually made the phone run like crap, excuse my language.

Somebody will probably post a version of it on the forums and devs will most likely use it as soon as they get their hands on it, IF there's still deving going on for this phone at that time.

yes you can, I did that before i actually flashed my phone. root is a different thing than flashing a custom ROM to your phone.

according to wikipedia, The meaning of life constitutes a philosophical question concerning the purpose and significance of life or existence in general.

:P
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] insanedrunk:
6 the purpose of life is to find the answer to that question yourself...
[LG Optimus 3D] Luckgav:
Hello to everyone and I hope somebody will help me with my problem. First of all, I bought this nice phone 2 months ago. It was branded and, of course, one by one, I did the followings: unlock, root, install CWM( first 4.0.0.9, after 5.0.1.4 and finally 5.0.2.0). After that, because the software of LG is not so successful, I stepped forward(very fast, after 2-3 days) and installed different custom roms.

Everything was fine with my phone (except those random reboots), but few days ago I got the first force closes of some applications. Directly I applied those 3 resets from recovery and surprise, after booting, the phone was like before, all apps inside, nothing changed. After I tried again factory reset, even with code 3845#*920# and is much worst, the phone is not rebooting now from recovery mode. What is strange, the phone is operational in some way, some apps are still working, but if I stress the phone little more, I get a lot of force closes and I have to switch it off-on. Same, if I try to uninstall or to install apps force closes are coming. I connected the phone to computer, everything seems to be ok, I copied roms for flushing with CWM, but again surprise, those roms are not on sdcard of the phone, in fact I can't copy or delete nothing on sd-card. I tried to install a rom from an external card, nothing, anything I am doing, the phone going to the initial configuration which was when I got problems. I tried even to flash kdz or bin through Win XP or Win 7, nothing, I saw that the phone is stucking when starting installation of the rom itself.

So, I am ready to send the phone to LG, I suspect allready a problem of hardware. But my hope is that somebody of you which doesn't have secrets in Android and LG phones can give me a sollution.Thank you in advance! And scuze please my english.
[LG Optimus 3D] jimakos29:
Run,run, as fast as you can. Run to lg and shove it up their ass....
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
[ROM][Gingerbread] Official CyanogenMod 7 | Swiftdroid 2.0 | mikegapinski & pebe94

Because Mur4ik stopped working on Swiftdroid, mikegapinski and pebe94 decided to 'continue' the project, and make it an official Cyanogenmod ROM (See the Swiftdroid thread.)

The Original Swiftdroid Thread

The post to Cyanogenmod

Mike's website

Mike's topic

(Outdated) video from Swiftdroid v1.2

Please do not post things like 'When will there be an update'. Mike and Pebe will release when they finished their version!

Changelog:

2.1 (Expected):

-Original v20E kernel with BFS,SiO, and CPU stuff like smartass

-New sources: Compilation from their tweaked source for better RAM usage

-AHB overclocking for system faster on 600 Mhz (thanks to Joe)

-FM app not needing bluetooth anymore

-USB tethering removed from settings

-Improved network selection showing network type (gsm or wcdma)

-Official released at Cyanogenmod

(2.0 ASIS and before see the Swiftdroid thread)

Downloads:

Latest version:

Link for Swiftdroid ASIS by Mur4ik

Recovery: http://depositfiles.com/files/1fgck3zvg

Fastboot: http://depositfiles.com/files/lbjtio2zc

Older versions:

For versions before 2.0 ASIS see the Swiftdroid thread

Source (from 2.0 ASIS):

Kernel: https://github.com/Mur4ik/swiftdroid_kernel

Device configs and patches: http://kulkoff.com/swift/

Thanks to Mur4ik for sharing!!

These sources wouldn't be used from 2.1.

Installation:

fastboot -w
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot reboot

[B]How To Upgrade LG GT540 while already running Swiftdroid Without Loosing Data/Settings/Apps[/B]
[I]Using Recovery Method:[/I] You need to extract the zip. Then install the extracted zip file from the SD card in recovery mode. (Full credits go to fishears for this method)
[I]Using Fastboot Method:[/I] Use the "fastboot flash system system.img" command (without the "). You can do a backup afterwards in recovery mode.
You can extract it with root explorer on your phone. However, if you encounter system errors then, try using suggested backup apps mentioned below.

[B]How To Backup Your LG GT540 running Swiftdroid[/B]
For those who prefer to do a clean wipe of their systems first before upgrading (in case of errors) fdespotovski & mircea89fzr have suggested using Titanium & MyBackup (rooted) apps. After upgrade, reinstall your chosen app & run restore to restore all previously backed up data/apps/settings

Thanks to [B]edy4sure[/B]
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] Mur4ik:
Its not official yet, no need to anger the CyanogenMod team :)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] eoghan2t7:
Maybe if Mike and Pebe want I can make auto installers for windows in a exe self extractor and maybe Linux aswel?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
Not

yet

:p. And Mike and Pebe probably would release it, even if it wouldn't be supported by Cyanogen ;)

Sure, why not?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] coleonyx:
What is ASIS?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
ASIS= as is= Mur4ik's release
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] martin255:
Damn you are awesome guys :D

Mur4ik's awesome rom will be even better thanks to you guys :D

I'd donate to you seriously, but I'm too young for that :(
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] coto39:
Thanks and good luck

I'm so glad to know that someone will continue developing this rom... and i hope when you both finish the .32 kernel, that kernel can be put in this rom..
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] m4nu4l:
Awesome news, cant wait how this going to turn out, so excited, good luck guys. Remember that both of you got maximum support from our community and may ask us anything and we will try to do our best to help you guys! cheers
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] androidboss7:
yeah hope this turns out to be a

good rom!! ;)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] mikegapinski:
I wanted to make thread on my own and have control oven it... So Please remove this topic and we will make our own like i said im swiftdroid thread
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] -Grift-:
is easier to control since you are the maker:P
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
As you propably know: you can't remove a thread ;)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] fishears:
Edit the title & startpost & ask a moderator to delete it
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] androidboss7:
yeah this is what i meant by did you confirm

it with the developers whoever made this thread..
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
Ok i'll do, but if you don't mind i'll do it after you've created that thread yourself. Here is also some useful information about the source for example. And if you like i'll send you my template i used here for the startpost.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] buktagt540:
What kernel is v20E?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] fishears:
All the information in the startpost is available in the original Swiftdroid thread. Its for pebe or mike to create their own thread/s for continuation of this project (or for any new projects). You should contact them to get this sorted out.

Its the most recent official kernel source released by LG for GT540 and it is part of the 2.1 firmware V20E
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
You'll better read our posts to understand what's going on. I'm already contacting them. :) And things like the source (and maybe it's just me): I can't find it in the startpost!
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] Mur4ik:
Think that latest is v20C, http://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensource-detail.jsp?detailCustomerModelCode=GT540
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] airbus360:
v20E has Sd card fix for 2.1 its only been released in Russia and Baltic :)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] sanmit:
Did you get your new phone?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] liamwli:
WOW! Thanks for this! It's brilliant! Thanks for providing the source links, I'll have a look at them and see if I can understand them!

Sent from my LG GT540 with mur4ik's swift Droid 2, RC5.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] liamwli:
On an off topic note: I'm using tapatalk, and to the left if my username I have a star. Some other members do as well. What does it mean?

Sent from my LG GT540 with mur4ik's swift Droid 2, RC5.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] mesaj:
I'm wondering why CM Devteam don't want to support GT540 yet if they support Huawei U8220 http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/338-huawei-u8220/ which is almost the same with worse cpu (see pdadb) and Huawei is not as good and popular manufacturer as LG.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] cccb010:
LOL

15 topics

91 replies
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] coleonyx:
Macro dont work!
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] androidboss7:
never noticed that before..
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] Dilbao:
Every phone that CM support have a code maintainer who makes specific changes for that phone if necessary. Basicly, this person is using this one and knows about how adroid and CM development work.

If noone wants to be a maintainer, they will not support that phone. Just asking them to support any other phone is not enough, someone who know what to do must take responsibility.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] mejack03:
Guys see the post #144 in this link http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/7108-lg-optimus-gt540/page__st__140 No body wasn't ready to take responsibility

If anybody ready now they should contact him again
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
I'll try to find him and send him a pm if mike and pebe agree. I'm good at finding people! So if they agree, i'll pm him.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] mikegapinski:
I have contacted kmobs ... no need to worry ... now we work on official CM
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
Great! But what do you mean with 'now we work on official CM'? Did you need to change stuff from Mur4ik's ROM? Or is it now really official, do you mean?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] mikegapinski:
really official and we don;t use mur4iks soruces...
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] mejack03:
@Mike Did they agreed? :) Great news buddy
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
And everything is working?

BTW. If you don't use his sources, then its your own project and not continuition of Swiftdroid. Am I right?

PS: Yeah great news!!
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] m4nu4l:
When will our device appear in cyanogen forums ?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] meilbox:
and what about CM6@froyo... it would be far more responssive @ our gt... ;p maybe in the future ??
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] simeus:
hey guys, wandered what was the new chit-chat going with the ASIS?? :D

what was that?? new CM mode?? or rom?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] -Grift-:
I was told AISI or as is basically means mur4ik stop coding swiftdroid
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
Yup
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] simeus:
But i read that mur4ik have been passed on to someone about the coding stuff?

we're wishing for the best for whom had given this authority :)

---------- Post added at 06:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:29 PM ----------

But i read that mur4ik have been passed on to someone about the coding stuff?

we're wishing for the best for whom had given this authority :)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] m4nu4l:
Tweet from kmobs...

kmobs Keyan

@CSTPL will you guys stop spamming me and just have the maintainer ping me on irc?

Appearently some guy named CSTPL spamming him about support for GT540, the point is ,they agree to support, but we need to find a maintaineer that would do the work... Noone agrees to be one as i understand ??
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] -Grift-:
lol spam o.o
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] fishears:
Mike is on the case.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] fdespotovski:
I don't want to sound rude, but why did you make this thread? My point is, the developers themselves should make a thread about their ROMs, because, after all it's their ROM and they decide whether they will make a thread or not. If they don't want to, it's OK. I think it's fair to ask them first. But never mind, since you've already made one, there's no point at discussing on this topic. Please do not take an offense. I don't like to sound like a boss here. :)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
I've made a topic because I read on the Swiftdroid topic because I read that Mike would continue with Mur4ik's ROM and Joost told us that he would be 'inactive' on the GT540. So I taught 'there should be a new topic. And I can make one'. Basicly I was just overacting.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] mikegapinski:
And I told you many times to remove it :D
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
And I told you many times i'll do that if you create one :p But if you don't mind i change it to a 'talk about' topic that time.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] G00fY2:
@mikegapinski: I'm a bit confused about the projects you are currently working on. What is your main aim? Are you trying to get CM official on the GT540? Or which ROM has priority at the moment?

I'm asking, cause I'm looking for a new ROM like SwiftDroid, which has all usual features implemented a runs more or less stable.;) There are so many (Gingerbread-) ROMs out there for our GT540, but fewest are suitable for daily use.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] Man_u:
I just have a question too in the same kind

Do you know who contact so that we have a MIUI rom ?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] m1st3r1:
not gonna happen, well for the sake of technology, i'll add yet.

but it's very small chance of yet. bcause there is no MIUI for mdpi phone around. there are lot of cm7 in mdpi phone, yet we still havent got the perfect build (i blame LG.)

and then again if ur good (i mean very good) in editing xml, smali, etc, u can edit systemui and framework-res to accomplish miui feeling. dont forget that miui = cm7 with cosmetics :)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] -Grift-:
we do have zdunex25:) he uses gt540 right??
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] tejasjadhav:
He did create MIUI Theme Chooser Theme for MDPI devices. He has a GT540. Maybe he could help us in bringing the MIUI.

Only if someone could port MIUI custom apps then we have a semi-real MIUI ROM.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] androidboss7:
i have tried to ask people for MIUI roms

for the GT540 but it can't be done.. :(

apparently to make a MIUI rom u need a ARMv7 or above

and we have ARMv6 .... :(

but there is a MIUI launcher i use! ;)

it like the MIUI rom home page!! ;)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] liamwli:
Sorry for being stupid again, but whats a MIUI rom?
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] androidboss7:
hehehe LOL! :)

a MIUI rom is a rom created by china..

its a combination of apple and android..

apparently it is really fast but also fast battery drainer!! ;)

here read this

http://miuiandroid.com/
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] Mur4ik:
MIUI is not opensource, so we have not chanse to get it on our device.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] rusgard:
Bluetooth

Hey,

currently, i've ASIS flashed.

Unfortunately, my Bluetooth headset isn't working properly.

I can hear the other person, but the person can't hear me.

Maybe you can take a look into it :)

Thanks

rusgard
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] buktagt540:
We have now official cyanogenmod. Is this not enaugh? Be happy about this
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] martin255:
I'm waiting for our device to appear on the CM website :D
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] s-u-f-f-e-r:
Try RC3 Version of the ROM (most stable - personal opinion)- If the problem exist this ROM is not for you
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] tejasjadhav:
ATM mike is making some more preparations with CM team. So it'll take a week or two to get official CM support. Anyways, it won't make any real difference. Mike or pebe will become the maintainers and release updates which they're doing even now.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] bataya:
Link for topic plz?

Sent using Tt.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] Man_u:
precisely, it is to see if they can give us access to sources or if they made us a Rom
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
Read the startpost
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] KernelError:
Very Thanks Mur4ik for your for your work and good luck with Desire S.....

Very Thanks mikegapinski and pebe94 to continue the work of Muri4k...

That you have given me a fright Muri4k :O :D :D :D

Sorry for my English.......... :X
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] androidboss7:
What's so good if our device becomes official??

Sent from my GT540
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] rusgard:
Yeah, your right. I'Ve flashed RC3 in the past and bluetooth-Headsets worked fine for me.

But i tried the newer Version RC4 and ASIS and there, bluetooth seems to be broken.

Maybe someone of the devs can take a look, cause i'm not the only one, where BT-Headset isn't working properly ;)
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] jasper580:
Updates come automaticly for example :p
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] androidboss7:
oh so like more stable kernels and

roms... ;)

thats good to hear!! :)

BUt who works on it??
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] kretos:
I think updates of Cyanogenmod goodies are automatic, updates in system specific for given phone are done by phone maintainers - in our case pebe and mike.
[GT540 Optimus Android Development] liamwli:
If we get official cyanogen, i think our device should be listed in rom manager as well.