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[Motorola Droid Bionic] HeavyC:
Stick with the Bionic

After reading most of these reviews that came out today for the Razr, I would most definitely say stick with the Bionic. I know I am. Below average battery life that you can't do anything about is not good. Also, I have read in multiple reviews that even with an AMOLED screen, reviewers prefer the Bionic LCD over the Razr's. It's not a good screen. Moto made to many concessions by trying to get the "wow" thin factor. The only thing is has going for it is the form factor, in which I prefer the Bionics more, in my opinion. The only other option would be the Galaxy Nexus but as someone already pointed out, I would wait on that one. There's no telling how many bugs/issues it will have being brand new software. Anyway, that's my 2 cents, stick with the Bionic.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] stevessvt:
After running droidth3ory's new shift3r 2.3 since last night, I have to say, on initial impressions, my Bluetooth is running much better. I hope it continues. I did have one spontaneous reboot with it this morning, but I wiped cache and dalvik cache in hopes to curb it doing it again.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] stevessvt:
Sorry, I tried to 'Thank' everyone, but apparently am limited to 5 a day.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nrage23:
Would not get rid of my bionic for the razr but I will be ditching it next Monday for the Rezound. The bionic is my first Moto android phone and it is built very well but the locked bootloader sucks. The Rezound has root and s-off. Also it seems most of the guys that developed for the EVO 4g will be working on it. Droidth3ory has done a great job on the bionic but I am headed back the the land of HTC.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] stevessvt:
I had a Thunderbolt, and liked it OK, but the battery was horrid. The only thing worse than it was the HTC extended battery. Made it like its ass was pregnant.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cryptiq:
RAZR is a great phone but I wouldn't return my phone for it. I don't regret getting the Bionic either. Personally I think the RAZR is a bad buy because it wasn't designed around ICS.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] stevessvt:
Im going to do some more testing on this new rom, if my bluetooth stays working good, Im going to keep it. It drives me insane with the pausing every few moments while trying to listen to AC/DC.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] alodar1:
You know...the screen doesn't bother me. Last year I chose between a Dell Venue Pro and a HD7. Super Amoled vs....LCD(?). Couldn't handle it...Dell was the winner.

Earlier this year it was LG G2x with Super Amoled vs. HTC Sensation with whatever they called their screen. It was close....I'd lean 1 way or the other...back and forth. Finally I chose the G2x because of performance. My GF chose the Sensation for other reasons.

Now, the Bionic vs the Razor. Is there that great of a difference between the screens....or is it a personal preference based on your eyes and your use of the phone? Its not as cut and dry like the Dell vs. the HD7.

Things I look at are software implementation, how it fits in my hand, does it do what I want it to do...the way I expect it to be done. I like some of the new listed software, but I think those will come to the bionic. I like the thin. 1.2 vs 1.0....ehhh...Screen vs Screen....ehhh. Performance vs Performance??? Ok...I'll only be able to do that with it in my hand.

It may only come down to battery for me. I'm just uncomfortable not having a battery to pull. I owned an iPhone a couple of years ago. Kept it for 4 months. When my son went off to college, he wanted one too....asked for mine. I handed it over without a second thought. Most everything the iPhone does, any Droid can do...there will always be some things that are different. If those things are important...you buy the phone with them. The Razr has 1 thing that is cool to me....its the newest. I can't afford to play that came all the time :)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] robroy90:
The lack of a swappable battery was a deal-killer for me. I am generally able to charge everywhere I go, but the one time I would have a dead battery with the Razr would be when I really needed it. I know you can get external chargers, etc. but I like to rotate my spare batteries to wear them evenly, and I like the extended battery if I don't feel like plugging in and the Qi charging mat on my nightstand is DEFINITELY convenient.

For me, the more difficult choice is resisting the Nexus Prime, but given the addict to Webtop I have become, it will now be difficult for me to ever consider a phone that doesn't have it. I love HTC phones, and really enjoyed my Evo on Sprint and the Thunderbolt here on VZW, but my office has really started cracking down on "unauthorized" use of the internet (even though I am in IT) and having my Bionic in the HD station with a KVM switch (for the epic win) is a great stealth way to do (almost) anything I want, whenever I want.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dellenrules:
The 1.2 Ghz processor in the RAZR is not much of a difference from the 1 Ghz in the bionic.

They're the same processor, just clocked differently.

One the bionics bootloader is unlocked, you can clock it at 1.2 as well.

The RAZR is a bigger phone than the bionic. Yes it is thinner, but check out how it feels before you buy it.

I prefer the way the bionic feels. Yes it is thicker, but it is also a smaller phone to hold in the hand.

I read that the screen RAZR was not as bright as the Bionic's.

Went to check it out and sure enough it wasn't.

On the home screen, I couldn't tell, but when using an app, it was noticeable.

The RAZR's screen had a cartoonish look to it like the Samsung screens. A lot of saturation.

Some people prefer that so yet again it's user preferance.

I read somewhere about the quadrant scores for the RAZR being over 2500.

I ran quadrant on my bionic and got over 2500 as well. It was from a stock ROM, unrooted.

The one thing that the RAZR has that I envy is the Bluetooth 4.0

That is just awesome and could really be a huge game changer in the months to come.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eraursls1984:
It most likely will receive s-off and root v t unlike the Razr it doesn't have root already (before release) I had a thunderbolt and that was enough to keep me away from HTC in the future, Motorola phones with a locked bootloader are better than HTC phones with an unlocked bootloader. My X was as good o. better than the thunderbolt even though it had a locked bootloader and lower specs.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] rexboe:
I would not trade am happy with my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] tech_head:
Trading a Bionic for Razr?

In a heartbeat.

As a matter of fact. That is exactly what I am doing.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] wanderfowl:
Just got a chance to poke at a Razr in a Verizon store. It's thin, for sure, but the screen is a bit funky (even compared to the Bionic) and the battery wouldn't work for me at all. I'm glad to say that I've no desire in that direction.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] jesziicuh:
very pleased with my bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosympathy:
Haven't seen it in person, but the screen on the razr has been slammed for poor quality. Every review I've read so far has said the bionics screen is much better.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] alodar1:
I too visited Verizon today. My thoughts match yours. Thin, which I like, but the balance is not right. Felt clunky in my hand. More uncomfortable....the whole thing didn't feel real.

Going back tomorrow to be sure. I'm still on my amazon remorse period. 99.99% sure i'll be closing that off tomorrow.

Next up..lapdock 100

:p
[Motorola Droid Bionic] davisbs999:
Not sure how comfortable you are with rooting and flashing, but my data connectivity issues with my Bionic (which have been severe have been) have been vastly improved by updating to .893. I would assume that the RAZR will come with a similar software adjustment.

Despite the fact that the Bionic has been maligned in the press a bit, I adore mine now that the LTE/CDMA handover issue has been resolved on my device. I also have been very pleased with the extended battery.

Nonetheless, if I were in you, I would get the RAZR. In my opinion, it's impressive aesthetic design and (slightly) quicker processor trump the extended battery that is available with the Bionic.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Dakota0206:
I played with a razr yesterday and yes its impressive and extremely thin. However my bionic feels a lot better in my hand. There is alot of bezzle on the razr and that makes it tough for one handed operations. The only other complaint on the razr is the Verizon logo on the front seems forced. It is in a very awkward place
[Motorola Droid Bionic] ted1735:
Not returning my Bionic

No way! I love my Bionic. Just got the ubuntu hack for webtop working!!!! I have the extended battery and get great results if I let it run down. I can easily get 24 hrs worth, I am just so paranoid, from coming from my Incredible to let it go past 50% w/o recharging. I also have the MOTO bluetooth keyboard, which is way nice! Just deciding and waiting to see if I would like to get the lapdock 100 when it comes out? The only difference between the 100 and the one for the bionic only seems to be a set place for the bionic to "dock" and the one made for the bionic is much more slip and elegant.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cryptiq:
Amen, they just need to lose that fugly logo....at least that stupid check mark - I think a pre-K kid could develop something more inspiring. I removed the check mark and left the word verizon on my bionic and it looks so much cleaner.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] tosainuu:
If I could trade this thing in it wouldn't be for a Motorola!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] bullinthechinashop:
Doesn't the Bionic use the same screen as the Photon? I had a Photon briefly and the screen looked great to me. The colors weren't as supersaturated as Samsung's SuperAMOLED screens but it was very sharp & clear and the colors were good enough. The only reason I returned it was because the reception sucked just as bad as my Epic 4G.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] chadbh74:
Ummm no way. I've finally got my Bionic tuned the way I want it thanks to root and Liberty ROM. Plus I can keep a spare battery with me to swap out if I need to.

The fact is I will never buy any other Android device that suffers ANY of the following:

* No user replaceable battery

* Locked bootloader

* Any measures that attempt to restrict which apps we can or cannot use on the device
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eraursls1984:
Better keep your bionic in good condition then. All manufactures try to restrict apps. All manufactures lock bootloaders, some are just easier to crack/bypass. the battery issue isn't a big deal to most people, and with newer efficient processors and more efficient 4g radios it'll become less of a problem. I do hope that all manufactures don't start producing all phones with non-removable batteries, but I do think we are going to see a lot more handsets like this with future hardware.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] alodar1:
Every 11th I walk into a Verizon store to pay my bill in person. That way I can always see the toys and ask questions.

Today I looked and played with the Razr again. I am still in my remorse period on the Bionic and wanted to consider the Razr. Sadly, I will not be a Razr user.

The Razr is very thin....too thin for me. It does not feel real to me...felt like a toy. It was fast yes. As fast as the Bionic....maybe...maybe not. It is too wide. To me, the width vs. Height was out of proportion....making it look....broken....to me.

So, I'm sticking with the Bionic. I ported my permanent number over and walked out with the Lapdock 100, which is indeed compatible with the Bionic. The box says Droid Razr Lapdock 100.

Just my opinion....
[Motorola Droid Bionic] infamousjax:
I have the stock Bionic and the HTC Sensation. My wife just bought the Razr today at costo... I put the three together and the Razr's screen is hands down superior... not sure what the reviewers are talking about. It's damn impressive. The design is does feel kind of strange when you first hold in your hand, but like anything else, you get used to it. it's actually starting to grow on me and I've only been playing with it for a couple hours.

I bought my bionic from craigslist, but if you have the chance to return yours and get the razr -- i suggest you do it... its the better phone :)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] nosympathy:
I hate the amoled screens. they are fake as all get out. I have always hated samsung tvs for the same reason. They are fake, cartooned, and over the top with red. It is also a pentile amoled screen and pentile amoled screens look bad. Try looking at the same photo of someone you know on both phones and honestly tell me the razr has a better screen. Plus, you can see the bionics screen outdoors. A major plus over the razr.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] JillyBohnson:
I'd switch to any phone if VZW could guarantee that data would stay on. I've been without data for pretty much the last 2 freaking days.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] YoungSkeezy:
Hell no! No extended battery? And so thin? Thats enough to stop me in my tracks. I've played with it, and its NOT that snappy. SO MUCH BLOAT D:

I'm sure a nice ROM would fix that, but I dont think many Dev's will jump to it, especially when the Nexus is right around the corner.

I'm happy with my Bionic, very happy with the progress, and looking forward to the future :)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] qudwis:
if i can get a replacement, like everyone here of course galaxy nexus.

but if i had to go with razr, i would prefer htc rezound instead of razr.

better display, removable battery, beats audio by dr. dre,

and sense is still far more better than blur.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eraursls1984:
A lot of people here prefer Motorola because of superior quality, call quality, reception. HTC and Samsung may be easy to unlock/bypass the bootloader, but what does that help if you can't hear clearly, or even get signal.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] alodar1:
Every has there own method for deciding which phone to buy. It maybe brand familiarity, or ads on RT, or perhaps word of mouth. For me, I wanted a Motorola DROID. It was pure want. I didn't need a new phone, didn't have an upgrade coming, so it was pure attraction.

During the year I had read up on spec and review. I watched carefully after Sanjays mid summer talk about the state if Motorola.

When the Bionic was released in September, I started reading again. Since I did not own the device I had no particular lure to any specific issue. I simply read all I could find in reviews, forums and blogs. I did this for several weeks.

Let me say this, when you are not directly involved with something you may be more able to recognize the importance or impact of specific issues. For example, just how widespread are the data connection issues or the black screen issues, ir the sound issues.

Once you own the device, it becomes personal.

I compiled my own list and made a decision. The data connection issue is not widespread. Quite a few people have it, but not most. Two forums conducted a poll of how many people have it. The moss out numbered the yes by more than 5 to 1.

Same with the BIDS and reboots. The only thing that most people have is the sound issue.

After several weeks of issue searching, I made a decision and bought the Bionic. Now, for me, its personal. I read all complaints, try all situations, attempt to get into things that will cause a problem. So far, no go.

To me, this does not mean you are all crazy. Instead I think of it as more of a lot issue. A couple of bad batches or something. While quite a few of you do indeed have valid problems, there are also quite a few who do not. While some of you rant about Bionic shipping too soon with so many bugs, just as many rant about how good this phone is. Of my last 3 phones, this is the second time I've been in this situation of some people praising the quality and others not having the same luck.

The only reason I even posted this was because I read a comment about how everyone is seeing this problem and how everyone would agree the Bionic sucks. No, not everyone. No, not most. Quite a few, maybe..but not all.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] stevessvt:
Well, I did it. I brought back my Bionic to Best Buy and swapped it out for the RAZR. I personally like how vibrant the colors are on it. Yes, I can see the pentile screen, but IMHO its no worse than the Bionics. I can see it just fine in direct sunlight. Worse than the Bionics, but enormously better than the Thunderbolt I had, which was absolutely useless in the daylight. So far all the apps loaded no problems, unlike the insufficient error I kept getting on the Bionic. The bluetooth doesnt stutter 1/10 as much as the Bionics. Battery? A bit up in the air as the battery will take a few days to normalize. It fits fine in my hand, and I got the Verizon case/holster for it just like the one for the Bionic I brought back. It also has a kickstand built in.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] afma_afma:
i wish i can swap my bionic for a razr..just to try it out.....i am 6 weeks past my return date....oh well...enjoy ur razr...
[Motorola Droid Bionic] qudwis:
i can understand the superior quality, but not call quality.

i've used htc thunderbolt 4G before and i haven't had problem with calling before.

i even got better signals. the reason i came to bionic are dual-core and 4g network.

i guess depends on where u live.. and what service u are using..

verizon 3g (evdo rev. A) may have problems but 4g lte is good enough for me
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Ga101698:
I have been asking this very question for the last day or so. I have until this coming Friday and my 14 days will be up and I really am torn as to which phone to go with, the Bionic, Razor or wait for the SGN. I came from a EVO 4G to the Bionic and I have to admit I miss all of the different rom and kernels options. But I have no complaints with the Bionic, it's a fine phone based on the week or so I have had it, but I'm just not overly attached to it.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eraursls1984:
It was hard to understand people on all of my t bolts, and speaker phone was impossible to use horrible sound quality on both ends. Motorola has the best call quality hands down, great speakers and mics, clear on both ends. I get better signal with my bionic, I do have some 3g drop out but 4g reception is great, with the t bolt I rarely saw 4g. BTW, I went through 6 t bolts and all were the same in this regard, and all of them had headphone jack issues and power button issues.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] frenetic:
I need to stop buying phones on release day. I would take this thing back in a heart beat. Not even just for a RAZR or any other phone - it's just not the phone it was cracked up to be. It's not nearly enough of an improvement over the Droid X to warrant 300 dollars. It's heavy, the screen looks like crap when you watch movies (normal, every day use is fine though)... The battery life is steadily going downhill (it was impressive at first but no matter what I do, it can't hold a candle to any of my other phones)

Someone randomly said the other day "that must be a pretty dang good phone" and I paused, I didn't want to sound like a jerk, but I said "no, it's a pile of crap"

Anyways, not trying to be anti-Bionic - I want this phone to have a long life, but with the RAZR on offering now, I don't see it selling any more at all. And to drop a phone that fast (2 months!) I lost a lot of respect for Verizon and Motorola. I have my Bionic and I will keep using it, but I am getting a different phone very soon.

I should list the reasons for my absolute loathing of this phone:

Big. Thick. Heavy.

The camera is a giant pile of crap. I can't take any photos of anything moving. It refuses to focus, no matter what camera.

The screen when watching movies.

The 4G radio cuts out so much. And when it does, it takes out 3G with it and I am left with no signal.

The location of the buttons is poorly planned.

The headphone jack whine is seriously ridiculous.

The battery cover... It makes my nails bleed to remove it.

The sharp edge around the screen hurts my ear.

The phone creaks when you pinch the sides.

The front camera is useless.

The sdcard thing is annoying as hell. sdcard and sdcard-ext??? This confuses so many apps.

Alright that's about it for now.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] dellenrules:
Obviously you didn't feel comfortable with the phone.

I purchased a droid charge and didn't like the way it felt. guess what I did after about a week?

I brought it back.

How long did you wait before you brought your phone back?

If you had all these problems from the get go, then why did you hold on to it for so long? You had a window to return it.

I on the other hand enjoy my Bionic.

Yes I checked out the RAZR.

There was a green tint which was present was very obvious that the phone used the RGBG color arrangement that was present in the first Galaxy S phones.

I was not impressed. The phone looked great on darker colors but when using it outside during the day, it wasn't as bright as the bionic.

The feel was sturdy. I had no doubt that the build quality on the phone was great, but it was a little too wide for me. I normally use my phones with one hand, but holding the RAZR, I felt I needed 2 hands to properly hold it when navigating through it.

The last thing that the Phone had which was different from the Bionic was the Bluetooth radio.

It featured Bluetooth 4.0, something I would enjoyed having.

The software on the phone is something that will most likely be ripped and ported to other phones.

The processor is the same one on the bionic and droid 3. It's 1.2Ghz because it has be overclocked.

The Camera is the same one on the 5.7.893 Leaked Update.

I haven't had any data problems like some people have had. None of my co-workers have either. Except for those days when verizon 4G was down nationwide, but I'm not counting them. I guess were just lucky.

I'm not defending the Bionic because I own one (well maybe just a little), but I probably wouldn't have purchased the RAZR if I never would have brought the Bionic because to me the RAZR's screen is terribly made.

I think I would stick with my bionic.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] eallan:
14 days isn't a tremendously long time to use a phone and find all the problems. Motorola don't find them with Verizon in like 8 months.