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[XPERIA X10 General] mundy725:
Wooooow , now need wait till march (
[XPERIA X10 General] oXunknownXo:
SONY Xperia S:
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
LOL whoever published that blog post will probably get fired. Wayyy before the announcement time...:D
[XPERIA X10 General] dachao:
ION

It'll be available in the second quarter.

A better picture of the ION
[XPERIA X10 General] Maikel205:
xperia ion announced for AT&T
[XPERIA X10 General] Denie46:
Will there be an Europian version of ION or Europe will stick to LT26 only?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Yes, the Xperia S will be for international. I don't even think the Xperia S will hit US shores, since they now have the Ion.

On the side note...where's the "Arc HD" that "neoxx3m" told me to watch for? :p
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
hehe...

as usual, u deliver us dependable info!

thanks mate!
[XPERIA X10 General] Maikel205:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrrbYEpYOEQ&feature=youtu.be
[XPERIA X10 General] LORELAI89:
Snapdragon s3 on both xperia s and xperia Ion,a no buy for me....By Q2 htc will have dual-core kraits and samsung will be using dual-core cortex a15,Poor processor choice once again...
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
yups have to agree with u there...

poor choice of processors... especially for devices launching in Q2 2012
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
PS VITA runs a highly encrypted sony software like ps3 and vita is not even jailbroken yet(ps3 was jailbroken first time after 3 years of its release)

It can't install a third party application

But ps3 is linux based no idea about ps vita
[XPERIA X10 General] 1Learning:
This might be a stupid question but are they variants of the same phone (like the Galaxies for each carrier)? One is the US version and the other for everybody else? Or are they completely different phones? I have to say, I like the Xperia S' design better...

This maybe getting way ahead of things, but any thoughts on whether rooting the phones will be different for each? Just thinking ahead a bit... If the US only gets the Ion, then will there be a way to get "stock" firmware and not the AT&T branded firmware is basically what I am asking. For many who got the X10a through their carriers, especially AT&T, it took almost a full year (I think) before AT&T released the carrier branded 2.3 from the time SE released a base SE 2.3 for non-branded phones.
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
interesting...

will follow developments of PS Vita closely... if they manage to get into the bootloader then it will be great... running android on it should be possible ;) and if it can run android then it will have the best GPU (SGX543MP2 GPU :eek:) as compared to any android currently available...
[XPERIA X10 General] kurk_droog:
What about Timescape?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
If I remember correctly, it's scrapped since Sony cannot have their own launcher, but must go with the Vanilla to begin with...
[XPERIA X10 General] Felimenta97:
Why Sony can't have their own launcher?
[XPERIA X10 General] Denie46:
As far as I know there will be LT29, is that true and if it is what are it's specs?
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
It took 3 years for ps3 to get a public available jailbreak as a usb dongle costing 5000 INR but now their is a software solution for ps3(even through if u have updated the latest software or bought a new ps3 just now u can't hack it)

U can see here:http://www.ps3hax.net/2012/01/homebrew-running-on-the-ps-vita/

But on ps3 first things came like this but was never released

and came after 3 years...

No idea what will DEVs choose to run on vita as on ps3 we can run linux as dual boot
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
That's Aoba's new designated model now. It's future is still unknown (at least unknown to me). Similar specs to the Ion, just slightly different design (More like Xperia S).
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
"Key Features for Xperia ion: 4.6-inch HD Reality display with Mobile BRAVIA® Engine with HD resolution screen (1280 x 720), as well as rear (1080p) and front (720p) cameras for HD recording."

WOW!

front camera capable of 720p... now thats impressive!
[XPERIA X10 General] LORELAI89:
@unknown13x do u have any news on the future processor SE is going to use??Choosing Snapdragon S3 will prove to be a big disadvantage in comparison charts,but what about products released later in the year??
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
I think I mentioned a couple of posts back that they're leaning toward the ST-E chips from the agreement with Ericsson on the takeover. I have no other info on 2H 2012 devices as the development shifted to Sony's team now, but will let you guys know if I find out anything more.
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
pretty much guessed by all (including me)....lol. all new phones hav it now.
[XPERIA X10 General] aequinox:
My press release states Timescape under Communication.
[XPERIA X10 General] LORELAI89:
Thanx 4 the info...That means that for the first half of 2012,Sony are going to be behind competition.Just hope that the will step their game up in the important(sales wise) Q4.
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
rule of thumb > if it's not symbian/windows, then it's definitely Linux

ha ha ha
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
direct camera snapping from deep sleep... now that is some WOW feature.

i thought zero shutter lag was great, now this is something that makes zero shutter lag look like a baby.
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Cool, glad to know it wasn't scrap :) Never played with any of these new ones, so I wouldn't know :D
[XPERIA X10 General] kurk_droog:
On the front stands Sony but on the back you can see the SE logo...Only on this serie or are they keeping this on the back in th efuture?
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
looks a bit like the x10
[XPERIA X10 General] wing_zero8556:
xperia S looks so pretty in the PR shots. now we have to wait like 2 months for it :(
[XPERIA X10 General] neoxx3m:
Yap,ur right man,its Sony logo and its xperia s,not "arc hd".:)I owe u an apology.;)

Respect man!:)
[XPERIA X10 General] clixt:
That's the Xperia Ion..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrrbYEpYOEQ

Here's the Xperia S

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s_is_official_boasts_a_12mp_camera-news-3646.php

thanks to GSMarena
[XPERIA X10 General] lythanhlong:
Pre sure it has 1 GB of ram.
[XPERIA X10 General] negrobembon:
You wish
[XPERIA X10 General] maddes1402:
First Ion hands on: http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/sony-xperia-ion-hands-on/
[XPERIA X10 General] wing_zero8556:
lol they said no removable SD card, 1500mah battery and its available globally? i thought Ion was for AT&T only

another fail

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/sony-xperia-arc-s-hands-on/

xperia arc s???
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Welp, seems like many of you enjoyed the announcement and the new products. Don't think there's anything else that I could provide that would be beneficial. It should be pretty obvious what would be announced at MWC next month now. Til end of Q2, I'll be in ninja mode gathering sources now. :p Have fun people and enjoy waiting for your new handsets! :D
[XPERIA X10 General] -16-:
Thanks for all your good informations! But before you switch to ninja mode I've got one last question: what materials does the Xperia S use? The same as the Ion? Magnesium?
[XPERIA X10 General] Felimenta97:
Hey, do you know the price for the Xperia S?
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Rubbered plastic. Don't let that fool you though, the build quality when I played with a broken unit a while ago was very solid, though, I personally love the aluminum on the Ion more :p
[XPERIA X10 General] deveron3:
He's right though... Especially the placement of the Sony Ericsson logo on back, assuming that stays...
[XPERIA X10 General] KennyCHF:
Is Xperia S a flagship from Sony ?

Will ION be available gobally ?
[XPERIA X10 General] karun11:
Ah that's a pity. I was looking forward to owning a phone which will have a premium feel. Guess I'll just have to flaunt the light effects then :D

So just as a clarification. before you go off on your little 'vacation' , we'll see the Nypon (Walkman device) , pepper and?

What about the LT29 (Aoba specced similar to the ion?) :)

? Anything on that?

3 devices at MWC?
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
i think the Ion was Aoba
[XPERIA X10 General] unknown13x:
Ion is Luna :)
[XPERIA X10 General] wing_zero8556:
unknown13x you wouldnt happen to know if theres a notification light or not? or does the bar at the bottom glow :O
[XPERIA X10 General] alzbac:
http://dl-www.sonyericsson.com/cws/download/1/105/035/7/1326097038/Xperia_ion_WP_1.pdf

white paper-ion
[XPERIA X10 General] cikomiko:
I will wait for aoba and xperia s+/s4/s hd or whatever. hopefully they will put a newer and better chip on it like they did with arc s.
[XPERIA X10 General] wing_zero8556:
this guy is a sony fanboy :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHYDTw_U8xQ
[XPERIA X10 General] dachao:
Why is the 3G talk time on the ION only 4Hrs. and it is 8.5Hrs. on the xperia S?
[XPERIA X10 General] wannaburjer:
Xperia ion is totally awesome! But what do you think is better? Upcomming galaxys3 or this magnificent xperia ion? Enx!!!
[XPERIA X10 General] maddes1402:
When it is just about the more powerful hardware SG3 will be better which doesn't mean that you can't be satisfied with the ion ;)

To buy the current galaxy flagship is always a safe decision because it is all the time one of the most popular devices which leads to a huge support from the community with tons of roms and kernels etc.
[XPERIA X10 General] clixt:
More phones for Japan:

(GSMArena)

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_reveals_the_xperia_nx_and_xperia_acro_hd_for_japan-news-3652.php
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
finally Sony learns something big about design ---> "keep it simple" lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] :
4 hrs of UMTS/LTE

10 hrs on GSM
[XPERIA X10 General] samuel109:
Anyone know what that wallpaper is called they are using on the S?

Sent from my XPERIA Arc LT15i
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
few things to note >

shazam replaces trackid

timescape WILL support stock email app (like 1.6 and 2.1)
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
I'm.. sorry.. why are these android screens showing games for yester-year?

Get some modern on those screens.
[XPERIA X10 General] Ambroos:
Only for the US. TrackID stays in Europe. It's the version that has been out for a few weeks now.
[XPERIA X10 General] clixt:
Because EA's and Sony's partnership is still going on?? IDK haha

(They had/have a partnership for PS3)
[XPERIA X10 General] hon kin:
Anyone considering upgrading from X10 to Xperia S like me?

Although those S3 processor seems just an 'ok' processor for now... =/
[XPERIA X10 General] wing_zero8556:
i probably will if the price is good
[XPERIA X10 General] Felimenta97:
It can't cost more than 600 dollars
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
usd $574 (leaked on many websites)
[XPERIA X10 General] deveron3:
I'll be shooting for the ion because I'm on at&t. Would if I could, and if I can, I will. ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Felimenta97:
Xperia S, you mean? Then, it's cheap, then. I was finding Arc S 2 months ago by the same price.
[XPERIA X10 General] thunderpossuem:
Xperia s looks hot to trot. Naming convention is getting sort of convoluted though.
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
i saw some videos and the Xperia S looks HOT!

i will probably be buying it!!!

and in those videos the Xperia Ion looks more and more like a bigger X10... which is actually a good thing!
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
You're not the only one DooM! I think it's the best looking phone that has been made yet.

But, if I'm right this phone can keep the track of all high-end phones that are out right now and that will maybe come? I still hear people saying the SGS2 is faster or has a better CPU/GPU. Do you agree with their opinion about that? Or do both their CPU/GPU have it's pros and cons? (Don't be scared to correct me :)) To be honest I don't care if the CPU/GPU on the XPERIA S is 10% slower lol... 0.5 seconds of diffrence in loading apps wouldn't give me a eyegasm...

I've already read some hands-on and previews and they haven't got any lagg or w/e yet on the phone. Very beautifulf interface.

In 5-6 months (or less) I will definetely buy the XPERIA S. No doubt.
[XPERIA X10 General] mundy725:
Where can put some links ? Already out ? i think it will cost in here over 1000 USD (
[XPERIA X10 General] n9900229:
Omg I would still buy this phone no matter what ahah its new , looks nice, features are great, and hopefully the Ice Cream OS will be on it before i buy it
[XPERIA X10 General] kurk_droog:
Every 2 years I choose a new phone and in march it is time to replace my X10 fot the Xperia S! I love this phone! And I don't care if there is a galaxy3 with a quadcore, love the style of SE.
[XPERIA X10 General] Ambroos:
The Galaxy S2 would indeed be a tiny bit faster, in theory.

However, we all know how superior Sony (Ericsson) is at optimizing software, so in the end I can assure you that if you compare stock roms, the new Xperia's will feel much faster.
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
expected price in india is rs.30000 which is roughly 600usd. but but but...the thing is in India gadgets are usually pretty overpriced. (like about 1.5 times the price in europe/usa)

so that could mean a launching price nearer to 500usd mark. and don't b surprised if it happens to launch at $499 or $479. lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
ion might cost more. it HAS MICROSD support, battery is 1900mah, and screen is larger by 0.3 in
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
and btw in most countries, it will NOT HAVE that green orb (sony ericsson branding).
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
Actually i think ARC (or ARC S) is the best looking Xperia...

yes its very capable and comparable to the current crop of high-end android PHONES... i am not talking abt TABLETS (quad core Transformer Prime)...

HD720p screen res., MSM8260 dual core, 4.3'' screen & 12MP camera (and that too Sony!) is infact better than some of the high end devices currently available..

as for CPU/GPU comparisons...

Qualcomm Snapdragons have the best CPUs, raw power; though the GPU are good but not the best

Samsung Exynos have the one of the best GPUs but decent CPUs

TI OMAPs have average CPUs but are coupled with good GPUs

i dont know abt other platforms...

so it all depends on what u want to use it for...

finally it all comes down to what u want and are u happy with the phone in ur hand/pocket ;)

yes from the videos the interface is indeed very fluid...

actually after using Samsung and HTC devices i can confidently say that SE doesnt bloat the system so much... on Samsung devices there is not even 5MB left on /system :eek: and on HTC devices there is SO MUCH SENSE CRAP...

btw in 5-6 months u might want to wait for newer devices...

yups... god knows when they will release it here in India... :(

yups but it has AT&T 3G bands... which, as far as i know, are useless outside of North America...

ya i noticed the MicroSD slot option in some videos... wonder why they left it out in Xperia S... should have included it...
[XPERIA X10 General] wing_zero8556:
HD Blog preview out, its in italian though. But its 13mins long :D goes through everything on the phone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqkytRdYeI0

new dialer looks nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...ation_id=annotation_49290&src_vid=rqkytRdYeI0

man that camera is fast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1rPXqd6V30

some interesting lock screen stuff
[XPERIA X10 General] LORELAI89:
I am more intrested on Nypon,since rumours suggest that it will have similar looks with the xperia S,but it will have a full metal body.4" qHD,8.1MP exmor r,ericsson u8500 are just fine for a mid-range phone.If it launches for less than 400$ it's mine!!!!

@unknown13x i know u r on ninja mode(lol!),but could u share some info about the Nypon..for the last time ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
@doom

the x10 came here pretty late. arc was not that late but again ray was late...

no guarantee of sony's launches.

(it'll be in delhi's/bangalore's flea markets at rs.10000 within a week of it's release in Europe/middle east)

honestly spking I'm more in love with the ion. (hopefully a global version comes). it is the most fitting elder brother of x10. lol.

if i manage to get into a good college, xperia.s for me surely. lol. 1.5sec camera thing is damn awesome. (y d hell no xenon flash btw? and why only 12mp? htc rolled out 15mp in titanium)
[XPERIA X10 General] dachao:
I agree with you that it will be around $499 because it will be 499 euros in Europe.

usually the prices are very close or even cheaper in the US.
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
1 euro is about 1.2 usd right? how can you equate euro and usd?

usd 500 should be 430~440 euro right?
[XPERIA X10 General] ImS0Raw:
With specs like this I don't actually need a faster phone. Only if it's an overal improvement if you know what I mean. Looks are for my choice with phones also important.

I did understand from people and websites that the XPERIA S has 32GB of ROM delivered with it compared to the 16GB on the Ion.

Correct me if I'm wrong about the ROM onboard the XPERIA S.

Thanks for your reply DooM, my doubts about the CPU/GPU are absolutely gone.
[XPERIA X10 General] jianlinooi:
tegra 3 has good cpu?
[XPERIA X10 General] sahibunlimited:
Its the best!!!

http://bit.ly/zPI9EC
[XPERIA X10 General] rdk00:
wishlist SE IoN +1
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
for raw power...YES.
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
I played with a hardware dev module.

Tegra 3 is just bullet fast.
[XPERIA X10 General] infinityyyy:
wishlist SE IoN +1
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
well currently there is no quad core CPU (for phones) in the market available to compare it with :P

also tegra 3 has 5 cpu cores... when in low use it switches to single low power core else it jumps to quad core mode
[XPERIA X10 General] OmegaRED^:
Depending on the APP cores can be enabled or disabled as required.

The 5th lower clocked core stays active as the system pilot.

The Gpu is freaking amazing.

I could theoretically play oblivion on it.

Bit i see how a simple hack would get me all five cores running same speed.
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
WOW!

just read this:

Ref: http://developer.sonyericsson.com/wp/2012/01/11/the-first-xperia-smartphone-supporting-lte/
[XPERIA X10 General] sopdogg:
Time to save up some money to get me an Ion. Glad I have AT&T!
[XPERIA X10 General] Denie46:
Is that means that I can buy it from US and use it in Europe? I'm really into that phone!:D
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
i guess so...

in EU and most of Asia 2100Mhz band is used for 3G (WCDMA)
[XPERIA X10 General] twowheeler:
thanks guys, i thought the only phone Sony presented was the xperia s.

Major downside of that one: no micro-sd card slot.

Xperia ion has all this plus more!

Will it come to europe?
[XPERIA X10 General] Denie46:
I don't think it will be available in Europe since it's exclusively on AT&T :confused:
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
dude!

if i can get the ION for Rs. 10000 i dont mind if it doesnt have warranty :D

no Xenon flash is a bit of letdown...

15MP on the Titan 2 is of no use... cause that device is using MSM8255 (same chip as ARC) and it cant even record full HD (1080p) :P
[XPERIA X10 General] dachao:
Do you think that we will be able to de-brand the phone to get rid of the AT&T bloatware?
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
send me one and i will debrand it for u ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] dachao:
The reason I am asking is because the Sony Tablet S has not even been rooted yet. Sony makes everything very secure. Hopefully it will not be the same on the upcoming phones.
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
Sony releases kernel sources and they are these days providing bootloader unlocking support on xperia devices... so this one will be cracked pretty soon.
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
tablet S is pure Sony devices and was developed independently of SE so we still have hopes ;)
[XPERIA X10 General] Felimenta97:
Hope so, I want to enjoy the stock feel a little, and then install CM9 ASAP on my Xperia S, but will only install when a stable version come out. No removable battery scary me a little. Tell me something, if we use factory reset on devices with internal memory for media and such, the reset will delete media and things like that?
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
that data resides on another partition...
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
it's like those nokia smartphones right? the system nand, the data nand, the onboard emmc and (optionally) the external sd ?
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
@doom

heard of nehru place or gaffar market or chandni chowk or palika bazar at delhi?

u can get pretty much any gadget from the world at any price you wish . ha ha ha.

i remember seeing iphone 4 within a month of it's launch at pallika, and believe me...it was at rs.9000. i was lyk ... u sure u didn't take anything out of the motherboard? the shopkeeper was laughing...

edit: sometimes i really doubt if they are stolen things or not. lol. sum prices are realy jawdropping.
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
well i think SE is going to shift to eMMC for these devices...

btw from what i have seen the system partition on both LT26 & LT28 is 1GB...

nope i am from Maharashtra... so dont know much/anything abt "hotspots" in Delhi... ;)

BTW if Xperia ION can come at that price point send me a p.m. i am definitely interested...
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
will surely do. my cousin has contacts in that circle. he changes smartphones every 2 months and usually gets them all at 8~15 grand range. (which are 25~35 in retail). and I'm personally interested in xperia s (or debranded ion if it comes here) so I'll keep a tab on it.

btw the the bands of ion...it covers the indian bands too right? then surely it's coming to flea markets too. lol.
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
if the system partition is quite large (or if system and internal storage as homogenous and partitions can be repartioned to increased system size), then I'm surely smelling a "Xperia S Ubuntu Development" thread soon.

dual, triple boot... many possibilities...lol
[XPERIA X10 General] championswimmer:
double post sorry
[XPERIA X10 General] DooMLoRD:
ya especially that press release clearly mentions multiple band support... lets see will have to check the white paper/ptcrb details...

may be unknown13x can confirm this?

and in anycase i am sure ppl will get creative to unlock it :D
[XPERIA X10 General] dachao:
Memory

Internal phone storage 1 GB

RAM 1 GB

Flash memory 16 GB eMMC

Expansion slot microSD™, up to 32 GB
[XPERIA X10 General] Felimenta97:
For Ion, and for S? 1.5 Gb internal memory?
[XPERIA X10 General] dachao:
XPERIA S WHITE-PAPER

Memory

Internal phone storage 1 to 1.5 GB

RAM 1 GB

Flash memory 32 GB eMMC

ION WHITE-PAPER

Memory

Internal phone storage 1GB

RAM 1 GB

Flash memory 16 GB eMMC
[XPERIA X10 General] dsurka:
Am I the only one who thinks this is a step backwards in terms of design and looks from Sony? x10 and arc are waaaaay better looking, distinctive design, physical keys. I mean when you see the Ion from the front it looks like a samsung, specially with the at&t logo on top (i don't know why). The S's "light-bar" comes out a little from the side if you look the pictures closely, it looks like it's going to break at any time.

I have a lot of things to say about them but it's not the point, just want to see if I am the only one disappointed with this releases.

I think Sony didn't only lost the Ericsson...
[XPERIA X10 General] dachao:
You are right but fashion phones never have good specs. Next month at the MWC you will see some phones with better design but with lower specs. If the rumors are to be believed the phones will have a dual-core processor that will be clocked lover than the processor in the ION/S.
[XPERIA X10 General] deveron3:
I'd say yes on the xperia s having an odd design, but the ion is a refreshing change... just my opinion though.
[XPERIA X10 General] Felimenta97:
I think the basic Xperia S design will keep, as Sony said. There will be different screen sizes and maybe one thing moved a little or one more button. But the brick design will keep, with the transparent bar in the bottom.