yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1331257

Ks9 rom to flash with ODIN

it ill wipe all your phone..

after that u should put this on ur sd

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1168417

boot ur phone in recovery ...install update from zip....

chose the file u downloaded and installl

after that dont do anything cause this rom still unstable! =D

use ks9 untill a stable build is released =]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] CallMeVentus:
Fuss if you do port it over to the Ace , I would be glad to help .

I could also learn on how you did it ;) so that I won't fail like how I'm failing now
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Mrperfektone:
Thanks for your help:) - But it is confusing with all the diffrent guides. I need a guide how to flasher ks9 with odin?

Thanks in advance

Rene
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
We can try it, but i´m not sure if it would work...

I´ll open a thread in Question Section and asking for people who have a good knowledge in android/linux that might can help us.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1348886
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] nilzkul:
hey i flashed with the link you gave for KS9 but my baseband shows ks2, why is it so?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] mixbox360:
Doesn´t Start

I wanna try your rom but I've been already flashed the kp9 and the blockbusterrom 1.3 with CWM but my ace stucks on the Galaxy ace GT-5830 screen can help me?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] ohwarumbloss:
It seems the KS2 is the latest Baseband while KS9 is the build with 2.3.5. so everything is good :-)

Greetings
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
Search on posts there is a 1.4 and one or 2 pages there is a guide how to make it work
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] camoll:
It is written that it has some battery tweaks, so my question is how is the battery life in this rom, becouse I am using gingerreal 1.2 and it really is poor becouse the battery lasts for about 1.2day with really normal and not heavy using.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] dododol:
hi... i cant download from the link on second post...is it broken?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
on page 18 19 +/- there is a download link to bb1.4

which is working with a lot of bugs....others versions are not

so dont donwload yet =]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] mixbox360:
Thank for advice @chadalu and I wait for the stable version of this promising rom
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] cazador1377:
do not boot

My ace did the same that yours... and i tried to reflash ks9 and it still with the same thing.... no boot

I find a only thing to do... downgrade to froyo (sammobile.com) with odin and then reflash ks9 with odin......

I only can do that to unbrick the ace....

i hope my words can help you

sorry for my english....
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
1.3 doesnt work ..search on last pages there is a link to 1.4 :p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] mixbox360:
Thanks

Thanks a lot for comment dude, I had a backup of my CM7 and that saved me from back to froyo and reflash 2 times the phone... that's why all devs recomend to make a backup before install any new rom for test, I know now!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] downloadonlyaccount:
So anyone got a 1.4 running? Want to switch from CM, as its bugs are quite annoying...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Lou#1:
I sugest to close this thread. All versions of this rom doesnt work.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] llvllaster:
Closing this thread is an good idea because of the developer is trying to port the ICS and not this BlockBuster Rom anymore.

Sent from my GT-S5830
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Tib44:
When it released ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] MrChaosDesire:
Ok. Today is yesterday's tomorrow. Now I am waiting excitedly for the BlockBuster ROM of the year!

Sent from my Galaxy Ace running Ice Cream Sunday 1.2 by Jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] WishFinder`:
Nice. Cant wait to try ^_^
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] MrChaosDesire:
I can't wait! OMG. I'm just sticking to the phone until it comes out

Sent from my Galaxy Ace running Ice Cream Sunday 1.2 by Jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] aboobakr:
Where's the download link? ???
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] nims11:
One most common rule of xda

dont ask eta
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] djsky2011:
Another rule to developers is never post eta because once u fail to meet them that's when the questions and hassle comes in
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] nims11:
Lol

but he said tommorow not exact date:p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
https://market.android.com/details?...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbGVuc3cuUGljRm9sZGVyIl0.

Yup, using CF-Root

Ok, bad new for you all - i uploaded the finished rom yesterday and short time before i want to share the download link with you i recognized that Wi-Fi is not working O_o I Searched throuch this forum and many Roms seems to have this Problem. So i will now change the Base Rom, which Stock Firmware should it be? Pls answer early cause then i can upload it early :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] aboobakr:
KPH
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Darvadouille:
I think you should base your your rom on the latest european stock rom witch is KS9 I think.

Maybe another good idea is to use the Kang Cm7 version witch is very fast!

Thanks in avance for the Rom!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] nilzkul:
it would be great with KS9
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Ok, i will use KS9 as base...

Let´s go :D

EDIT1: For your waiting time, a first taste of the new Rom: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1336240

EDIT2: Two questions: 1) Did someone already deodexed the apk´s in KS9 or do i have to do this? 2) Is CWM 4 available for KS9?

EDIT3: Ok, i found the answers ^^
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] nilzkul:
cheers :d :d:d:d:d
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Tib44:
No I want a KS9 rom please
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
Wireless is not related to modem????

i think if u flash ur already made firmware and just flash ur favorite modem via odin

problems are solved!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] consegregate:
Not wholly dependant.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] scoffyburito:
KS9 4 LYF
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Short Update Status (True status, but sometimes a bittt funny ^^):

- build main KS9 Rom ~ done

- insert Custom Sounds ~ done

- add Custom Apps in /data ~ done

- add New CF-Root Kernel ~ done

- build flashable .zip ~ done

- update updater-script ^^ ~ done

- insert init.d script ~ done

- add updated /lib files ~ done

- update CSC - Files ~ done

- configure CSC - Files ~ done

- drink beer ~ done

- de - odex system apps ~ done
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] masterrudi:
Super, genau das habe ich für das Handy meiner Frau gesucht :-)

Klasse, kann es kaum noch erwarten.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] downloadonlyaccount:
- insert custom sound ~ done

- insert Custom Sounds ~ done

AAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW YYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH, double sound :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] zizibuba:
Even though I did understand what you said, english is primary here.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] fonfelix:
waiting for this!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] jimbo.levy:
There is nothing "3D" about that.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
So "3d" gallery that comes with phone too.....

but....this quickpic is 1000 times better then android gallery
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] domnic79:
Dude! English please

Sent from GT-S5830 using Grif's Cyanogenmod
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] redlag:
Hey, can you include the modified mms apk (without the 3 page sms limit) and the old market in the rom? It'll be of great help.

Waiting for your ROM.

Cheers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
For old market....user a app called old markey from a xda dude....u cant choose betwen old and new market.....new market is looking cool
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Yeah, deodexing is ready!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] MrChaosDesire:
The question is, ARE YOU READY?

Sent from my Galaxy Ace running Ice Cream Sunday 1.2 by Jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] rideriang:
ready ready ready
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] redlag:
I know we can't have both at the same time. I tried the latest version but it's still slow on EDGE. And the old market can easily be upgraded to the new one (even automatically updated i guess?) so it shouldn't be an issue for anyone. :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] nicgoh:
cant wait!!! awaiting for ur awesome rom! :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
So now....you better stoping with the beer, since is the only thing left that you are still working on kkkkkkk

What else is left to do??
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Many things are left, but if you can convince me, I maybe release a Pre-version ;)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
Im checking this thread since day 7.....i check every 5 minutes to status update...its like im really need this rom....i think i have some mental problem...but is ok....

i already erased my phone......flashed KS9....and thats it....im really waiting for this....3 days by now =]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] shadow_empire1:
please give us the prerelease :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
im gonna sleep a little now...maibe ill be released when i wake up =]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] villemann:
I wonder about script I found on your site - http://www.team-blockbuster.com/?p=652

Will it work on other roms, for example GLSMT, which I'm using?

It's KPO 2.3.3 with CF-ROOT 3.7 b82 ex

Edit

Sorry for this post, found my answer.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] catapult1234:
Why would you want an unfinished rom :confused:

Cheers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Lou#1:
Please dont do this.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] shadow_empire1:
what do u mean???

I am a geek :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Lou#1:
I dont want pre , beta , rc I or samething i want a stable rom. i dont want to flash my phone six thimes befor stable version.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
So dont flash with pre or beta or rc...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] jimbo.levy:
Why not give a pre-release? In doing so, willing testers and devs can eliminate any bugs present in the ROM and subsequently report back to the OP to make appropriate amendments. All in all, we would all be guaranteed a more stable and error free ROM, quicker. Remember, 12 pairs of hands is better than one. If you don't want a problematic ROM, just wait for the finished product and don't download the beta.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
Thats what im talking about
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] catapult1234:
There is a difference between a beta and an unfinished rom.

Anyways, there is no rom yet. So just wait till its posted. Beta or not. No use in whining for pre-releases.

Cheers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] CallMeVentus:
Then PM him Mr Geek .
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] migz012788:
So excited to this rom :)

Sent from my v6 supercharged Cyanogenmod 7.1 Galaxy Ace
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
dude...please...feed us with something tomorrow....even a status update would be cool

like 80% done

news are aways welcome
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] jimbo.levy:
It wasn't whining, it was simply a request.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] MrChaosDesire:
Hell yeah!

Sent from my Galaxy Ace running Ice Cream Sunday 1.2 by Jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] scoffyburito:
Are you asking for an ETA? :-P
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Problem with Betas is: The user expect too much from it -> this is the first and last time they download and use this Rom.

But I definatly need beta testers to fix all the bugs that may be included. So please PM me if you are a experienced android user to help me. I can't finish this Rom without you...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] rideriang:
really crazy about this...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
No im not asking for ETA...im asking for progress... or news about it

just to feed my poor soul
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] redlag:
This is exactly why coming soon threads are not allowed.. lol
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Here is it: Call it BETA or Pre-Version, but I say it´s the first Version of BlockBusterRom goes ACE. Happy Flashing ;)

Download BlockBusterRom goes ACE v1

Download stopped, stuck at bootscreen -.-

As usual, please report all Bugs and make suggestions and take some Screenshots, thanks ;)
​

For now it has

- Deodexed Apps

- Based on KS9

- zipaligned

- Custom Sounds

- Custom Theme (But not finished!)

- Speedfixes

- Allinonescript

- QuickPic as Gallery

- MIUI Music as music player

- All Google Apps updated to 2.3.5

- Updated Market

- Updated CSC

- TW-Launcher

- Go Launcher

- Faster GPS Tweak

- GenieWidget

- Titanium Backup

- Of course: Flashplayer

And is based on latest CF-Root.

I hope it´s correctly working for you - thanks for using it - maybe donate to support me - problems with it? Post here...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
Flashing right now !

andddd....i get stuck on Galaxy ace screen

its shows the blue corner.....but dont pass

ginger real has the same issue....since the dev give up using android 2.3.5

maibe it doesnt work with cf-root
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Thanks for your report, then i´m going to make a Odin-flashable version ^^
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] jimbo.levy:
Flashing right now. Will keep you posted =]

EDIT: Or not :|
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] catapult1234:
Why not? Here is your chance to help solving the problem(s) ;)

Just to make sure -> this was a sarcastic post

Cheers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
its better anyone try....maibe my device is a troller

...but....its like when i tried ginger real 1.5 ....Galaxy ace logo

blue corner....after 10 minutes....black screen with backuground light =D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] derdude1977:
same here !!!!!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
yeahh...lets wait for odin flash.....will work for sure...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] scoffyburito:
Cf root is not compatible with 2.3.5
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] jimbo.levy:
At what point did I state that I wanted to help solve the problems? ~.^

It was my ABSOLUTE PLEASURE.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] k1nca:
yosh, this will be the 1st custom rom odin-flashable. really glad to hear it.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] adiif1:
work...?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
not yet....maibe cf-root doesnt work with android 2.3.5

anyone can confirm this???
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] adiif1:
wait to... version recorvery

odin no good xd
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] MrChaosDesire:
Hell yeah. Good work!

Sent from my Galaxy Ace running Ice Cream Sunday 1.2 by Jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] CallMeVentus:
Someone try a logcat ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
i can try...just say how i do it =D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Diliban:
I don't think it is because of CF root. I installed CF root in 2.3.5 KS2 and it worked flawlessly.

sent from my Samsung Galaxy Ace with CyanogenMod 7.1
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] consegregate:
Yup KS2 definitely works.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
Forget....

sorry for the post
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Did somebody tried to flash the deodexed ks9 with cf-root? Is it working? Cause then this is not a Kernel problem ...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] consegregate:
It works. http://themythace.tk/ he did it fine.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] MrChaosDesire:
Yeah! That's why pre-releases are important.

Sent from my Galaxy Ace running Ice Cream Sunday 1.2 by Jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] adiif1:
work or no?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Work in progress...

Uploading new version in some hours. I want to see this working! :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
so do I... =]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] semender44:
stuck on bootscreen.

Jupa Engine because of the error occurs.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] sazrimz:
+1 :confused:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
I know that it stuck on bootscreen...

I´m uploading a new version - 3 minutes left :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] MrChaosDesire:
I'm standing by

Sent from my Galaxy Ace running Ice Cream Sunday 1.2 by Jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] catapult1234:
You use Jupa engine in your rom??

Cheers
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
EDIT:

New Version 1.1 uploaded

Download it here

HowTo install:
​

​

First flash Stock KS9 wit Odin

You can install it with Recovery | If you want install CWM first

Put the Rom .zip to your SD-card

Flash it and reboot
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] semender44:
Jupa reason to remain attached to the opening screen of the engine.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] MrChaosDesire:
I'm gonna be the first to try it on KPO

Sent from my Galaxy Ace running Ice Cream Sunday 1.2 by Jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] shadow_empire1:
flashed it directyl on top of:

BehradGH Rom Series | CyanogenMod 7.1 2.3.7 RC 2.2 "2011.10.21" "Cyano Ace"

working :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] geraldgeron:
oh yeah..thanks..hehehe..

btw im on cm7 now..

cannot see full package ks9..

hehehe..sorry if OT..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] l'irlandais:
first bug for me wifi doesnt work

error when i try to enable it

try to re flash it in case :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Is WI-Fi working for you?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] shadow_empire1:
nope -> Fehler

also, after booting system language is russian.

I hoped it is 2.3.7 instead of 2.3.5.

Also no CM7.1...?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
It is based on Samsungs Stock KS9 Android 2.3.5 Rom
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] MrChaosDesire:
94% I'm gonna try installing over my KPO which is running grif which is running ice cream sunday.

Wi-Fi nono

Sent from my Galaxy Ace running Ice Cream Sunday 1.2 by Jusada
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
ill flash ks9 and flash it from sd*

keep u posted

anyone try flash modem to see if wifi works?

quicpic is saing....failed to initialize pls install app from market

wifi not working

i dont know if its a bug ...or if it is my phone

im not getting boot animation

and after de blue corner screen its appers "android" like when u enter em cwm

after that black screen....after that dashboard shows =]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] tyraelasd:
what about battery life? is it good enough?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] chadalu:
its not possible to know yet...since rom got release an hour ago
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] nilzkul:
bluetooth cant get switch on :(

---------- Post added at 07:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:35 PM ----------

and also random restarts
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
OK, guys this is the closest to stock version that is possible with KS9. Last thing is that i´ll try to use stock kernel and modem. If there are problems with this, too i´ll use another 2.3.5 Rom - sorry...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Maesedroid:
99% is Yupa's issue, i got frecuently SODs, can't log into Google Acount , even flashing modem and all, didnt work stable.

I'm using KS2, ís very trustable and no problems such as KS9. You should give a try but this rom.

Hope to see your new versión soon,such an amazing job dude!

P.D. CF-Root version compatible to KS9 and scripts would improve it? Because ginger bootloaders?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] domnic79:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1342491

Sent from my GT-S5830 using Grif's CyanogenMod

Dont jus say thanks, use d 'Thanks' button. [XDA-RULE]
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] adiif1:
blut and wifi work or no?

have sod or no?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] casiocas:
Hey!

Wifi NOT working. Even I try to flash another MODEM, its still not working and for the end I BRICKED my ACE(lol). But now its working fine again. I managed to UNBRICK it.

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] adiif1:
yay wifi not working xd

wat rom to u flash?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] rideriang:
fail to install any apps and ace reeboot..
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] llvllaster:
Use myth ks3 2.3.5 as base rom. Its amazing. Is Bugfree & has excellent batt life.

Sent from my GT-S5830
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] consegregate:
What, copy another person's work?

Don't suggest such things because it's quite insulting.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] consegregate:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1342491

Maybe someone can test this?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] casiocas:
Hey!

Jeah, it will be the good thing for BLOC... ROM, if this method working(we will see). Testers GO on, I pass this step.

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Lovetz:
In this firmware update you just add a super-puper script and wallpapers - that's all you've done. Everything else, up to the point, taken from Finist1`s work from here.

He asked me to give this to you:

blockbusterrom_goes_ace_v1.1_Finist_LTP_Veselie_kartinki.zip​
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
Sorry, but you really don´t know what i did. Of course i used this deodexed files, why not? You posted it to use it ^^ Drag your Firmware and push it to wherever you want - if you´r too (i don´t know what i should call you) i´ll deodex the apps by myself.

Don´t download these files, they´re not official Blockbuster!

If you think you´re the best Script Maker and Rom maker (you called my script a "super-puper") then create something like this by yourself (but i think you don´t know how to) and stop insulting others work!

BTW, your Apps are brilliant, Wi-Fi don´t work, AppInstaller don´t work, Bluetooth don´t work...;)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] devilsking:
I think u can try to deodex by urself :) It's not difficult. Btw, Tks for ur script :) I will use it for my next roms. It worked well :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
I´ll do this. But i don´t know what the sense of opensource or in this case posting his for so that others can use it - and they should not to ^^
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Tib44:
I have install v1.1 and when I go to My files to install a apk I beggin the installation then the installation beggin and after 10 s the phone reboot
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Lovetz:
I think your script is great, that`s why I called it so.

Init.d folder contains finist1`s nikname. File "updater-script" is an exact copy of finist1`s one.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
There deodexed app I used are not correctly working. I will do this by myself and then we´ll see...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] devilsking:
;) If u need any help, I'm willing :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Lovetz:
Everyone can use, but why call it yours FW?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] :
We stop this conversation now! You don´t know what you say and i will deodex the apps by myself. Then theyr working and I have my own firmware lol Samsung did most things of it, but it´s mine ^^

PS: If you would be clever you would be add avariable in build.prop with your signature. It would be shown in Settings.apk...
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Lovetz:
The essence of the issue is not how to put signature on the firmware, but the fact that if you use someone's work, it's not hard to tell it in a message with your FW.