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[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
I got it here in Raleigh, NC over night. woke up and was presented with a message box saying service update complete. But doesn't seem like phone rebooted as while sitting in the dock when i pulled it off Sense homescreen was already loaded up as opposed to any other reboot where you have to unlock the device and load up sense. When i unlocked out of the dock sense homescreen was already loaded up.

no data changes here whatsoever. dunno what this tweaked/changed
[HTC EVO 3D] pau11y:
I just called sprint, she said that it is a "security fix" and will update the build number to

2.08.651.3 from 2.08.651.2. She had no further info available.

I've some ignorance here. I don't know what the "Build number" actually represents.

Has anyone confirmed what exactly this update has done to their phones?
[HTC EVO 3D] dannytill:
that update came out like a week ago, different update. this is a service update which affects how your phone communicates with the network

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Woke up this morning to the same message about a service update. Download and upload speeds seem to both be much improved but whats even more impressive is the ping time which is vastly improved. I don't think I've ever seen ping times that fast on 3G. As you can see in my sig even 4G ping times have been much slower.
[HTC EVO 3D] spurnout:
Super speeds on 3G!!!

Wow! Whatever they did I love it! Just ran the speed test on my phone and I got 2258/827!
[HTC EVO 3D] luckylui:
I woke up to the same message, lol.

Could it be there getting ready for something? :)

hTc
[HTC EVO 3D] nurvcom1:
i just got this this morning 11-1-11 7am ...

does anyone get this???

i rooted stock 2.3.4 rom

pic attached
[HTC EVO 3D] kc_exactly:
i got it too.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
what you got is the actual security OTA update that was pushed out about a week or so ago and now hitting handsets that hadn't gotten it yet i guess. This is NOT what we are talking about here btw.

What were talking about is just a service update that has run and done something that apparently no one really knows what right now. lol
[HTC EVO 3D] migpol08:
I got it last night too.
[HTC EVO 3D] willfck4beer:
apparently the evo4g OGs didn't get this service update?

I see no threads started over there on it and at least one OG friend is still seeing > 300ms ping times and <300kbps down in DC!

I've run 20 speedtest.net tests and I've never exceeded 90ms today whereas I've never gotten anywhere below 300ms before today on 3G.

ODD

Is this possible the evdo rev b? I swear they said rev b was NOT happening?

Does 3d support rev b while OG 4g does not maybe?
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
EVO3D does support evdo rev b og evo does not. However I am not seeing any increse in speeds or decrese in ping times as others are reporting. I am still sitting with 700+ ping times and 150 kbps or lower speeds.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
it wasn't revb.

sprint has stood its ground on the revb thing and stated they are not going that route at all ever.
[HTC EVO 3D] willfck4beer:
I agree - they have said this - or at least, I've gotten a google alert pretty much every day denying rev. b...

more data points:

-I see no chatter of service updates on Evo 4g, Evo Shift 4g, epic 4g, ... only e3d

-I do have a buddy up in the country of Ohio that sees no improvement even after reboots and in spite of the service update last night.

But I definitely see the improvement, lots of people are reporting it... If this was security related to the wimax hole - why didn't the evo 4g or shift 4g get it?

Arguendo, is it possible Animal and my buddy are on a tower without rev. b support?

Something happened - ping has gone down massively, and on the only phone that supports rev. b?

But it doesn't make sense - unless the iphone 4s also uses rev. b... phonescoop says no, anyone else have any info?
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
its NOT rev b please give it up.

to further prove this you would see it in the ##DATA# menu somewhere at the very least or your speedtest reports would show revb.

If its revb youll know it.

trying to find out whatexactly this was here through sprint right now as the guy is looking into it b/c at first glance he didn't show anything other than that regular OTA for security fix that was out the other week.

I also checked in the ##DATA# settings to see if they changed any of the addresses for connections and i didn't see any difference at first glance least the proxy stuff was the same as before.
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeyxda:
If you guys are reporting higher speeds and this isn't rev B, then why would anything other than a PRL be needed for this? How does this differ from a PRL update?

Mike
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
I never said it was rev b, I simply stated that the EVO3D supports rev b.
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
prl would be the reason for higher speeds only if they were roaming during the tests which i assume they were not.

this could be a number of things. they wanted to refresh 3D's services, they changed something in the voice/evdo services slightly, or something else. we just don't know right now.

But its not rev b less someone getting these speeds can prove such via speednet test app showing revb over reva or it being in the ##data# settings somewhere or somewhere else on the phone.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
But i dont see y evdo rev a getting more then its speed and still say rev a i heard of a evdo rev a.a i seen it on vz phones thoe
[HTC EVO 3D] mikeyxda:
I did some more testing. Even after rebooting the phone, my 3G speeds are way down now! I used to be able to get 100K to 400K in the house but if I went outside, I could consistently get 600K to 800K. Now I can't break 120K even outside. So whatever they did, they trashed 3G for me!

And... Now when I force roam using Roam Control, I get 1x. Can't get 3G on roaming any more.

Mike
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
yeah but you were asking if it is possible if some were connected to revb towers and such and some wernt.

thats what i was referring to it NOT being.

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where is there people getting more than reva speed???

RevA can supports bursts of 2.45 Mbit/s to 3.1 Mbit/s
[HTC EVO 3D] tomp517:
I'm definitely getting better 3g speeds. I usually have to stay on wifi because I never get anything past 200kbps. But ever since the update i've been getting 1.25 - 1.99mbps.
[HTC EVO 3D] jhuff83:
Still rocking the ****ty speeds after the update.
[HTC EVO 3D] SouthernEvo:
I got up this morning at 7:30 in florida and found that the services have been updated on my phone . No real changes in data speeds and also I have noticed the phone dropping to 1X more frequently today then normal . Other than that nothing else , speed tests seem to come back with its usual results .

(down) 0.64 Mbps (up) 0.37 Mbps *Full signal strength 3G*
[HTC EVO 3D] efan3719:
This happened last night.thought it was that security update but was confused cuz i am running cleanrom 2.7. Nothing seems to have changed system wise. Have yet to test my speeds.
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Ive been getting over 3.1mps but not stable thoe
[HTC EVO 3D] animal7296:
Again, not what I said. Here is the post that I made so there is no other posts that you can get confused with mine.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18954783&postcount=42

No where in my post did I say anything about some being connected to rev b towers.
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
Crazy,

Never been over that. I've hit 3Mbps before (Probably only 3 times) with the HTC Hero but I never skipped over the 3.1 mark, even at 3:00AM.

I think that was also around a time Sprint lost a lot of customers.

Could be a wonky speedtest reading. With the network the way it is, even under Network Vision, that's a perfect condition peak.

Post a screenshot of that.
[HTC EVO 3D] willfck4beer:
Gettin almost 2mbps down 70ms ping and sometimes 1mbps up.... Drastic.improvement!
[HTC EVO 3D] willfck4beer:
Overlook fing app says rev. A
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
U maybe right but i test on average download most before i would get 325 kb and now most of the time it hits 476 kb and like 3 min stablw then drops to 298 kb stable
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
then the issue was that you responded to my post before when I had quoted the other member who was saying it and you came at me like I was directing that post which you quoted of mine to you. which i was not.

so missunderstanding form beg.

no worries.

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post screenshot?
[HTC EVO 3D] willfck4beer:
Sorry guys. Mea Culpa. My bad. It was me. I was jumping to conclusions.

It just seemed odd to me:

- that we are seeing this huge speed bump and ping decrease;

- only the evo3d (only phone with rev. b?) got the update;

- rumors abounded about the rev. b update;

- wimax security didn't seem to be the cause (as none of the other wimax phones got the update);

- tethering still seems to work (which was my first guess as it coincides with Nov. 1 killing of unlimited)...

But yeah, the overlook fing app says Rev. A and Sprint has vehemently denied rev. b; and why would they invest in it anyway as 3d is the only phone that supports it? (UNLESS iphone 4s does - but it doesn't appear that they do?)

Anyone have any more information or data points on this?

So odd that even with Root, no roms can block Sprint being able to unilaterally (without veto) push an update on us. Anyone know of any way to lock the phone down to prevent this - and/or google's ability to push/uninstall apps at us?
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
I've set the vmdc service to not even start, so I have not gotten the update, and don't plan on it either until more information is known. :)
[HTC EVO 3D] willfck4beer:
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/11/m...on-htc-evo-3d-seems-to-bump-up-3g-speeds.html
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
freeza with his tinfoil hat on worried about the spying? lol
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
No, most of Sprint's lineup has EVDO Rev. B support.

The Sprint Network however isn't Rev. B.

The EVO 3D is however 1 of 3 phones with the support for CDMA over the 800MHz spectrum. (iPhone, EVO 3D & Design 4G) possibly the GS2 as well, I'm not sure.
[HTC EVO 3D] willfck4beer:
Freeza - I'm an idiot, could you post a link to the discussion on how you selectively allow/disallow services? is this an app or? Forgive my ignorance please...

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Noiro -

stipulate that Sprint network does not support rev. b; but how do you know (not challenging, but want to know for my own benefit) that most phones support?

Phonescoop.com (while it may be wrong) seems to indicate that EVO 4g, Evo design 4g/HERO2, Evo shift, Epic, and Iphone 4s only support rev. a.

Which is odd because Design/hero2 and Shift at least have the same MSM, qualcomm board as e3d, no?

Again - please forgive, I'm not the brightest led :)
[HTC EVO 3D] ItascaBill:
^

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This is what I am wondering.....could the service update be preparing us for the 800MHz transition? Could explain no update on the OG Evo......
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
:D!

Well, there are three ways. The easiest depending on what you've purchased and/or installed. I use autostarts to prevent the service from starting. This disables PRL updating and Profile updating from working, but a quick launch of the program and a re-enable later, and they're back to working status. Preventing it from starting prevents the hidden SMS messages Sprint sends from launching the service to get said update.

The second way would be to simply freeze the service with titanium backup or Link2SD. :)

The third, less easy way to do it would be to use the adb pm disable command on the service, which is the same thing as freezing.
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
I'd filter a list for you but take note of the Sprint Snapdragon Devices with Rev B support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
[HTC EVO 3D] ricocollege:
I have not got any update and my speeds are still as ****ty as ever. No change here.

Sent from my EVO 3D
[HTC EVO 3D] Stopsign002:
How would this work if I was on an AOSP rom? If CM7 cant utilize this update until it is manually added in I will totally switch back for those speed increases. Thats amazing
[HTC EVO 3D] jared1202:
Received the update last night and my 3g speeds are an improvement..

Before: 85kbps down/ 99 kbps up

Now: 737kbps down/ 119 kbps up

Same location!
[HTC EVO 3D] Serren:
I posted in another thread, but I am also seeing better 3G speeds in Sacramento. And just a general stronger connection.
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
You will need to go back to a sense rom and get the update. Then go back to an aosp rom and you'll be fine :)

Sent from the MIUI powered 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] :
So it'll work even if I restore to a CM nandroid after that?
[HTC EVO 3D] Stopsign002:
Thank you for the information
[HTC EVO 3D] ickwonder:
I got the udate when I was half asleep...I don't remember if I applied or canceled it...does anyone know how to check if we have applied it....thanks
[HTC EVO 3D] Gambit2Rebel:
Same here got it in the middle of the night, was too sleepy to care. Woke up in a panic WHAT did I do last night? Good to know it was not me LOL
[HTC EVO 3D] :
Strange...

I still won't get the update even after going to a sense ROM, restarting multiple times and force stopping vdm client.

I even checked the ROM thread and apparently others are getting it.

Any suggestions?
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Not sure if they are doing it by location maybe? They might not do them all at once. I'm planning on waiting a little longer for more info, so I haven't went back to sense to try yet. My wife is currently unrooted stock and she hasn't seen anything yet. Kingsland, Ga.

Sent from the MIUI powered 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Edit: Double post. But yes, it will work if you nandroid back, as long as it's sense based. :)

Sent from the MIUI powered 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] freeza:
Do you guys have a newer 1.31 PRI after this service update?
[HTC EVO 3D] fastamx79:
I got the update notice this morning, and I'm still on PRI 1.24_003
[HTC EVO 3D] jayharper08:
Was wondering that also.

Sent from the MIUI powered 3d
[HTC EVO 3D] cds36:
What does stopping the vdm client do ? Im running decks rom havent got the update as well.
[HTC EVO 3D] luckylui:
Ill looking around too! Lol. Wtf

No answer w google either..

Wonder what Lrod did?

hTc
[HTC EVO 3D] luckylui:
Looks like 1.31 pri is for boost mobile.. can anyone w boost confirm? Sprint is 1.24

hTc
[HTC EVO 3D] luckylui:
Heres my lil bit of boost on my 4g data

hTc
[HTC EVO 3D] yournamehere484:
Any idea why some of us still haven't gotten the update yet? Sounds like something I'd like to get on board with. I'm on one of the Sense 3.5 Roms.
[HTC EVO 3D] gk1984:
I've seen others suggest running a manual profile update in the software updates. Not sure if you'll see the "service update" message we all did that way. Maybe run a few speed tests before and after if you haven't noticed anything already. I'm just taking a stab though.
[HTC EVO 3D] shockwaveaz:
How do I get the latest PRI can some one post the four proxy settings in advanced please.
[HTC EVO 3D] Genjinaro:
My PRI is 1.15_003, WTH?
[HTC EVO 3D] jagox5:
I also updated and got PRI. 1.15?? I live in los Angeles, California
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
Ive been on 1.24 is that the new one
[HTC EVO 3D] sgt. slaughter:
yes thats the latest one for sprint. were thinkin the 1.31 one user showed was b/c they were on boost and run a diff pri evidently...
[HTC EVO 3D] brownhornet:
I just got a second update... I don't know wtf is going on. Or maybe it came again because I changed roms earlier.
[HTC EVO 3D] dmasteRR:
I got this as well this morning when I woke up. Running PRI Version: 1.15_003
[HTC EVO 3D] tech7:
My speeds has drop down bad i can hardley dl stuff or surf
[HTC EVO 3D] Mechachu:
I didn't get the update automatically. First thing I did when I heard about this was update the profile.

I went from 300-500 kb for upload (this had been the norm since I've had this phone, and was checked right before I updated) to 800-900, and it's been like that ever since. Signal seems to hold up a little better as well in some places.

My download speeds did not change at all. I'm still ranging from 200-800.

My ping was a little better, normally it was around 150, today it's been 125-130.

:D
[Epic 4G General] MrTimz:
From the rumor thread, for those that don't read it. :)

http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/361607?tstart=0

I say its real. Not photoshopped. Everything says EI22, build *and* baseband, everything. It also says 2.3.5. Discuss!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Oops, posted as MrTimz, oh well.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] gtuansdiamm:
Common man y did u make a rumor thread if ur gonna make indavidual threads too
[Epic 4G General] ugothakd:
I call bull crap. I could do that with my eye closed

WHOAHH

. Didn't see the baseband...as far as I know you can't fake that...
[Epic 4G General] Falstafff:
Looks real enough.
[Epic 4G General] hmiem81:
I believe it is a troll as well.

If you actually go to the original thread over on the Sprint forums it is posted on the end of a old forum from when we thought it was going to come out in August because they changed it on the website (high visibility if it is updated). Also, the person that posted the original thread has only posted three times since he joined the community in 2008 and all three posts are from today. Finally, he has not come over to XDA and shared anything with us about it other than us finding it on that forum.

I call bull until the guy comes out of hiding and allows us to walk him through the ROM dump. If he wants to make "Epic" history with his "discovery" other than just ruffling feathers than he should come forward!
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Fake! No update listed on Sprint's website in firmware. Sprint posts new firmware before shipping a phone with it on it or before an OTA.
[Epic 4G General] caileb:
Is it possible he knows nothing about XDA? He sounds kinda clueless - and there's no mention of this site on that Sprints Community thread...

Which website are you referring to? I was under the impression the community firmware page was not always up to date...

http://community.sprint.com/baw/com.../2010/11/08/samsung-epic-maintenance-releases
[Epic 4G General] machx0r:
Cause the rumor thread is useless and worth ignoring since posts like this are much more likely to catch your attention and/or provide new info rather than banter :D
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
xda was mentioned
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Yeah, that was me. He really is acting pretty innocent. It's either the real thing or a pretty good fake and a decent act. Interesting puzzle, all we can do is wait and see.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
Get ahold of this guy, root it and dump it.
[Epic 4G General] MrTimz:
@Kenny, some things leak out, we know this because, well, we know this already. Look at the HP touch pad with android.

It shouldn't be much longer for the OTA, I'm almost sure of this.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
That's what I'm saying. I think I successfully convinced the guys on irc that this is the real deal. The baseband says EI22. That means its on the EI22 MODEM!

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
Seriously, which one of you is posting as Mr. Timz?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Was me at first, but idk who it was just then.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
OK, I haven't seen him post in awhile and not sure who all uses that account.

Sent from shane6374's Epic via Tapatalk
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Pm sent.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
I left a message (and a PM) to Lonny on the Sprint forum asking him to come here and get the devs to help him dump the ROM. Hopefully A) It's legit, B) He responds, and C) He's successful in dumping the ROM!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Major things to point out:

1.) Baseband says EI22

2.) 2.3.5

3.) it has the .5 hardware number.

4.) The person claiming to have it has no reason to fake it.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] metalblaster:
im one of the people who commented on that sprint thread and ill call complete bull****. The guy just wanted to get peoples hopes up.
[Epic 4G General] myepicyear:
Those are all actually very good points. I say that EI22 has potential possibility of being true. Of course..anything is possible
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
I'm not going to build all my hopes and dreams on it like a few people around here do -- and don't tell me you don't, because damn if you don't get offended and angry when the gossip turns out to be fake! -- but I have a gut feeling it's legit. I'm no FBI forensic analyst, but that screenshot does not look 'shopped when blown up full size, nor am I an FBI profiler, but the guy sounds sincere. We'll see!

Honestly, I doubt it's much that I'm interested in because since it would be a ROM, and not source code, Decad3nce and crew can't use it to enhance CyanogenMod--other than the modem, I suppose. Correct?
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
The photo he uploaded looks legit, but what about the image on the phone's screen? ;)

It would be easier (and much more convincing) to edit a screen cap of the "about phone" screen, open that image on the phone in full screen view, then take a pic of the phone - it actually looks like the real "about phone" screen.

A video, on the other hand, would be better proof (much harder to fake). He could show the menus getting to that screen - faking that would either require a faked animation, impeccible timing and a menu softkey hack, or an app to fake it (and, still, a menu key hack).

Sent from my CyanogenModded Epic
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
I am under the impression that the baseband is not user-editable in the build.prop, therefore not as fakeable.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Forgot kernel version is new enough to be right.
[Epic 4G General] Bliger241:
Just an observation but isnt EI22 supposed to be 2.3.4 according to the rdf?
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Not with Sprint they don't. I guess you all don't remember how many faked pix we got before froyo was released.
[Epic 4G General] RandomKing:
What does this show? Mine has the .5 hardware number.
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
True, but the kernel source has code saying it's 2.3.5. The RDF could either be a typo, or they changed it within the EI22 build but never updated it on the website.

Honestly, I think the picture is real. But it doesn't matter. The update will come when it comes, and just because a picture shows it, you guys should know that doen't mean it will necessarily be "soon". Just be patient. If you guys try to only disprove it, then the update might as well never come.

At least we have source. At least we still have devs helping us out along the way to keep us in the game.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I thought the 2.3.5 was for the Epic Touch. I didn't hear about our phones showing 2.3.5 in the source. I am running a kernel based off the source and it still says 2.3.4.

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Whether real or not, until a second phone shows it, it is fake. Others have gotten replacements recently with only froyo. None of the Sprint techs here have mentioned a phone showing up with an update. The Sprint site here was updated the night before froyo was officially released. I would hope the same will happen for Gingerbread.

http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100823-181934?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
[Epic 4G General] LemonHead2089:
EI22 is 2.3.4 according to the RDF...

http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EI22.rdf
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Version has frequently been wrong.