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[Windows Phone 7 General] gamefrick:
Have any of you guys actually visited an Android or a iOS thread lately, what we are doing on here is nothing any different, you will never have 100% positive comments on any forum concerning any technology anywhere you go. In iPhone and android forums, you will still find a fair share of haters who totally condemn the phone, you will find a chunk of appraisers who completely adore the phone and you will also find the comparison users who all they do is inform others on the difference between different platforms and how WP has it better than Android or iPhone or vice versa. You also have the unnoticed critics who voice out every now and then about little things that we know will come later on but patience is what they don't have.

So its not even a year yet, but if we have this many users posting on here with our own fair share or lovers, haters and comparison users, unnoticed critics and the like, then I think we are well on our way.

Again to stress...WP7 JUST STARTED----IT HAS NOT EVEN BEEN A YEAR JUST YET SINCE ITS LAUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GIVE THE DAMN PHONE A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would love to see more competition in the mobile and not leaving the war to iOS and android...what a boring industry it would be :(
[Windows Phone 7 General] nicksti:
This sums the whole thing up in a nutshell. Do you see any of the Windows Phone forum regulars going into the Android forums talking about how the OS stole technology, is unstable crap, or a battery hog? Do we repeatly talk about fragmentation and that Google is feeding us BS with this no fragmentation agreement because OEMs and carriers will make business decisions on whether to spend the time and money to update the handsets?

Book / Movie time

Anyone in here watch I Am Legend? Well, the book it was taken from The Omega Man was more interesting in concept. It was not a simple man's struggle after an apocalyptic event; it was more of a struggle of civilizations like The Matrix. When Robert Neville became the last man on earth, he became the dinosaur. He was the bad guy killing off the new civilization.

What the heck are you talking about nicksti?

I do not want to sound like a separatist, or cultist, but what would this forum be like without some of the regular bashers? It was like that once a few months back. The forum got really quiet but in the process had less arguments. Would this section be worse off if it only contained mindless Windows Phone zombies, living in darkness but happy? But that will not happen.

People have a need to impose their ideals on others. Some people have no intention of sharing ideas here; they only want to write long-winded technobabble showcasing how knowledgeable they are so they can feel good about themselves. And when that does not work because what they said was not intelligent, they hurl insults.

It is something to think about. If ignorance is bliss would you feel compelled to enlighten someone and take away his/her happiness?
[Windows Phone 7 General] weijoon:
another quicker way, jz ignore those you labeled "haters" thus can't see their comments.

This is a bad way and should be taken as the last resort.
[Windows Phone 7 General] pillsburydoughman:
It is black and white. It's a closed platform.

Who are you venting your frustration at? Other WP7 users. And you wonder why they don't like you. Vent your frustration at Microsoft, they have a website for that
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
And you say repeating the same crap here is Ok?

I just read how much you hate repeating the same WP7 negative feedback on this forum over and over again.

Now you go with this. Double standards, as usual.
[Windows Phone 7 General] arturobandini:
Always the same silly and predictable comments about Android.

Don't worry I can deal easily with some lag as long as my phone offers me

ALL

the features I need.

On the contrary I can't deal with the the absence of decent storage, the absence of Divx|Avi, the absence of USB mass storage, the absence of slot for SD cards, the absence of FLAC, the absence of HDMI out, the impossibility to edit my forwarded emails, the absence of Google maps, etc, etc, etc, etc...

Wp7 is both locked down and immature.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
Are you kidding?

You don't understand how the world works if you seriously think that the XDA forums aren't frequented by those in the know.

I would argue that XDA is better for venting valid concerns than many other places.
[Windows Phone 7 General] the92playboy:
You are a moron. You have been called out for trolling and just *****ing and complaining, and your excuse for that is because you think that your constant complaining on this forum will result in the changes you want to see MS do to WP7.

The only thing that you, or the others like you that only come to the WP7 forums on XDA to whine and complain, accomplish is to frustrate the group of users here who actually do want to discuss the WP7 and share tips, techniques and suggestions.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
(citation needed)

*gasp* Do I have my first stalker?? :D

It's been stated rationally in this thread several several times. People have been making the same point over and over. Yet you still don't understand, and you respond with name calling and a child-like response to what you see as "hating".

You're honestly telling me that you see no point in voicing concerns with a product or software?? Are you serious??

.

Let me ask you a question. Do you think this platform is perfect?

Just answer it yes or no. No big long explanations. Just a simple answer.

If your answer is yes, then you are either a robot or a Microsoft employee.

If your answer is no, then you are a hypocrite.

So... do you think this platform is perfect? Yes or no.
[Windows Phone 7 General] the92playboy:
Here's a quick and easy test to tell if you are providing anything of value to the WP7 forums or just looking for a place to ***** and complain.

1. If you have ever made a post in the WP7 forums with the words "FAIL" or the statement "Microsoft/Nokia/HTC/etc don't know what they are doing!" or "Windows Phone is DEAD", you might be a hater.

2. If you have threatened mutiple times "I will switch to Android/iOS, just watch me" on a forum to other users that don't care if you made your phonecalls from a string and 2 styrofoam cups, you might be a hater.
[Windows Phone 7 General] sure haven't:
lol @ white knighting Microsoft.
[Windows Phone 7 General] the92playboy:
I think there is no perfect platform. But unlike you, I choose to spend at least as much time posting about the POSITIVES as the NEGATIVES.

You coming here to ***** about your WP7 phone makes about much sense as me going to the carwash every day to complain that my pickup truck gets ****ty fuel milage.

Now my question: Do you think this platform is the worst one available? Yes or No.

If you say yes, then what the hell are you doing here posting? And if you say no, then why do you only complain?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Knochen1981:
Its funny for me to read the Android Users to bash WP7.

Many people are happy with windows phone 7 (in my family and friends i converted 10 people to windows phone from ios and Android and guess what they are all happy with it, espescially after mango)

I never ever post in android section and do u know why cause i love WP7 and im 100 % satisfied and all of this with single core :)

But it seems u guys are not satisfied with android cause u spend more time in WP7 Froums. So it seems ur looking for an alternative....

Just my 2 cents
[Windows Phone 7 General] shinygerbil:
ITT: people who can't follow the advice in the thread title. Including the OP.

Welcome to the Internet, where <noun> has both fervent detractors and fervent supporters. <Noun> can be almost anything.

Welcome to the Internet, where logical phallacies are accepted as fact by the majority. "<Statement> is wrong, therefore <opposite of statement> is correct." This is wrong. And this is the basis of most Internet arguments. (The rest are based on "my opinion is cold, hard fact.")

Get thicker skins, learn to distinguish fact from opinion, then learn to distinguish informed, intelligent opinion from drivel and trolling. Then learn to ignore the latter.

And never forget, even on the Internet, 50% of people are of below-average intelligence. ;)
[Windows Phone 7 General] frontieruk:
Thats down to ms policy of live tile updates, isn't it they can update on on 30 minute cycles or something?

errrrrm I'll give you android has had dual core for a while, but I don't see that as a gaming powerhouse, iOS has been on single cores in phones till the recent release of the 4s, so your argument is moot, it's just the devs who are making the games aren't for wp7. The actual likelihood is the GPU in 1st gen wp7 handsets wasnt upto much.

this isn't directed at anyone in particular :-

Personally I wouldn't go back to android, but I'm in the minority, it's frustrating watching people try and get the OS changed into an Android clone, if wp7 doesn't do what you want how you want, find an OS that does, Icecream sandwich seems to be treading the line between metro and grid app launcher so perhaps look there?
[Windows Phone 7 General] PG2G:
Background Threads can run at most once every 30 minutes

Live Tiles that poll a server can run hourly (or maybe its 30 minutes)

Push notifications can update tiles as often as you like, though there is some sort of limit on the amount of requests you can push through Microsoft's servers
[Windows Phone 7 General] SausageSlice:
imo arguing over what mobile OS is the best is a waste of time, it's subjective.
[Windows Phone 7 General] upichie:
z33dev33l posts enough Android hate in so many forums that it appears as if the entire WP7 community is doing it. I'd blame him. :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I don't hate any platform. I choose the platform that suits me best based on my needs. First and foremost, I want a good dev environment. Second, I want a media player worth the effort. Third, I want a real alternative to a point and click camera. Fourth, I want integration with services I use. Fifth, gaming, I am admittedly a bit of an achievement whore on Xbox. 6th, social integration. I advertise a lot of my products on Facebook. Wp7 makes it easy.

I don't need infinite customization options at the cost of quality and performance on these things so I choose WP7. Android can be a fun platform, but the people who treat it like it has absolutely no flaws are ridiculous. I know my WP7 has flaws, the only seamless part of the lumia I'll be getting tomorrow or the next day is that sexy unibody.
[Windows Phone 7 General] andrew-in-woking:
XDA in decline

Hi all

Unfortunately, I do feel like XDA-Developers.com is in decline. I think that this thread, and other similar threads, are the evidence for this.

I do think that to be emotionally attached to a particular mobile phone OS is a bit unhealthy. There are so many more important things in life.

I remember my Nokia 6310i, which was arguably my first smartphone. Just think about how far things have come since then. I am looking forward to Windows 8 on a tablet and a phone.

With three main mobile OSs on the market plus a few others, at least we now have some healthy competition in the marketplace which is driving forward development across the board.

Let's hope all the OSs continue to be successful so that they all keep improving.

God bless

andrew-in-woking
[Windows Phone 7 General] FiyaFleye:
And just to continue showing you how incorrect most of these "you're a fanboy" arguments are, I also don't buy an Android phone, go into the Android section, and constantly ***** and ****ing moan about how "close I am to switching my SIM from my Android to my WinPhone" but haven't gotten around to it because I'm "oh so swamped with so much technology that my penis is pixelated." Again, I enjoy constructive feedback, the users I call out, inclusive of N8ter and doministry, don't give constructive feedback, they tell you how it is according to their world and why you need to see it the same way.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
Funny, I just reread the first post but swapped the negatives for positives and vice versa and it made just as much sense. The problem with members such as yourself, doministry, n8ter, purple11, and others is that you have nothing positive to say. Every post you post here makes it seem as though you feel that WP7 is an unsightly malignant tumor that you're forced to bear. You act as though there is no happy medium between love and hate. Post something positive and not only will you kill off every Windows Phone user over 30 with a heart-attack. You'll lse this trollishness that has become part of who you are here.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Lol. Do you realize that all the "haters" here actually are wp owners?
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Run dungeon defenders on a nexus one (same soc as launch wp iirc) and then run it on a galaxy s and galaxy s2 and tell me which phones don't choke.

It's not JUST the processor.
[Windows Phone 7 General] weijoon:
This is the exactly approach we should take.

P.S. And I'm gladly I'm not one of those apprentice of any of the OSes Religion.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Knochen1981:
Says who ?

The Signature ?

Oh I own a Galaxy S2 and an LG Optimus x2 and in point of usabilty and at a glance usage they are bad. So Android is bad. I own them cause i have written it now.

I said funny because U don't even see when its meant ironic.

Its useless 2 discuss bout OS cause they will never make sense. Different OS for different People.

Oh and 1 question. If U WP7 Bashers found the holy grail with android, then why the heck are U wastin time in posting in the wrong section.

Why not post in Android section ? And keep this forum clean.

Make a thread in Android Sec called Android vs WP7 and have fun.

One thread about missing features should be enough.

Everyday a new mimimimi thread.

We don't care and these posts make the forum unreadable for new wp7 users or users that want yo read and discuss about news or changes and so.

just think about it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
All the people mentioned by name are wp owners. I have an android phone as well as this device. I post primarily from this cause it has the best keyboard and the best Tapatalk app.

There are few "android users" trying to give feedback on this os. Most of them simply don't care about it. This forum is dead to them.

Says me, from my observation reading and posting here since before the platform launched.

I rarely complain about missing features these days. Having three devices means I can compensate easily. Some people aren't so fortunate and complain about these things more. Some of them sold their other devices so they could buy into wp7.

The issue isn't the threads. The issue is you and others getting so ridiculously butthurt over the criticism. You know if you didn't respond you could squash most of it. You peoples tendency to be so illogically defensive actually makes it much worse than it is.

Case I. Point look at the tone of the posts in reply to mine. It's hillarious how aggressive you people get even when people attempt to have civil discussion. That's one thing I can commend z33 for.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
I try not to be petty, I enjoy all OSes to an extent, WP7 more so than others in their current iteration. I love my iPhone for gaming and as far as the tinkerer in me that comes out less and less there's no choice except android. I use WP7 as my daily driver because it's the best at performing typical, daily activities. Simple as that. I'm aware of it's shortcomings, but what it does, it does well.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ScottSUmmers:
Love the hypocrisy :cool:
[Windows Phone 7 General] ziko:
Yes, they do it, ALL of the DEVs and intelligent poeple have done that.

The WP7 part of XDA is dead, DEAD...DEAD!!!!!!!

What remain are haters, trolls, spammers...

Thats the truth about WP7 and its part on XDA.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
All I can answer to this, because you call my name again,

is that you definitely have problem with reading.

I have no time to prove here how many positive things I wrote about WP7. This is just silly. I was one of the first who saw it's potential and bought WP7 phone once it was launched.

The problem with guys like you is you don't understand that some users don't worship anymore their favourite platform or they use more than one. Some people stopped treating their consumer choices as religion. I stopped.

And besides subjective feelings you can definitely judge which OS offers more or less. WP7 offers less, that's it.
[Windows Phone 7 General] z33dev33l:
It really doesn't, their offerings are simply different. For interaction with others and user interface, WP7 wins. For applications as a whole, iOS wins. For customization and the ability to modify everything, android wins. Each OS also has it's drawbacks. WP7 has its limited app market, android has the lag/force close/instability thing, iOS has a horrid UI and hardware restrictions that are insane.
[Windows Phone 7 General] doministry:
User interface is a subjective thing, not objective. Interaction? I don't know what you mean.

For applications iOS wins? In what way? There are many blocked API's there still, for instance for the browsers.
[Windows Phone 7 General] finalzero:
To the OP, you are frustrated about something so felt like flogging your dead horse around at everyone.

Why should I belittle myself and put myself down because "YOU SAY SO"...grow up please.

I choose to own a WP7 device, just the same way I choose to also own an iPhone and an Android based phone...wait I don't fit into your little criteria now do I?

It's about choice. Why do the mods keep this forum here, to give people the choice to decide what they want to do and find a place where they can get support for their chosen device (and not have someone badgering them about it).

That's the great thing about living in a democracy, you have the freedom to make decisions and with the market as it is, I think it's great that WP7 is in the field now as it gives people like me more choices and allows us to find a device that better suits our needs.

It gives you no right however to come on here and belittle and badger owners of these devices and people interacting on this forum. Who cares if the numbers are low, at least we have a "CHOICE"...have I made it clear enough for you yet?

You guys need to grow up a little and have some respect for your fellow person on xda-developers.com otherwise you will be doing no one any favours least yourself.

I have been a part of this community since the XDA II days. Back then it was a great, close nit community of experts however I am alarmed now at the types of people that are frequenting the community.

The same common theme seems to be running through with a bunch of people worshipping someone, that person badgering and belittling everyone else and there seems to be a general lack of respect across the whole...wtf is wrong with people?

Honestly, if these forums get shut down I am out of here, there is no point hanging around a place that gets over policed and choked to death because a handful of people want to act like tyrants.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bl4ke:
Call me an iWhatever, but there are reasons that, despite thinking the OS is the best looking one, I will not switch to WP.

The amount of apps on here is pretty abysmal. The ones that are available? Well, sure, they're nice. But I want more. Yes, you can say, "But there are 40,000! That's plenty!" Well, sure, that'd be more than enough if within those 40,000 were the specific apps that I actually wanted. I want Grindr. So does almost ever other gay male with a smart phone. I want Cut The Rope. Hell, I want an official Facebook app that won't break if Facebook changes policies. While it may be trivial, there's a small game on here that I play because I can help a friend on it. I may not care much about it, but he likes it, and by simply logging in and giving him a once-a-day gift, I can show a nice gesture without much effort. And where do app developers tend to go first? iOS. There are exceptions like Ilomilo, which I find to be a rather cute game, but there are many games just as good or better on iOS exclusively.

My next stop is the hardware. Not too shocking. I want a nice design. That's purely preference, but I don't think many would say the hardware for WP7 is better than the iPhone. My one exception to this is the Lumia 800. But it's not coming to the US, and it's lacking a couple things as has been hashed and rehashed out on this forum and others. No FFC? When Microsoft acquired Skype? That must be a joke since the N9 had one. The processer, while not something I care about, should have been better.

All of that said, I hope next year WP will have what I want and then some. I don't buy devices in hopes of what may or may not come. I go with what I need in the here and now, and WP presently is not it. I want this platform to succeed, but it needs what I said before I will consider jumping to it. So yes, Peew, I can definitely see your disappointment. You want it to succeed, but right now, it leaves some things to be desired.
[Windows Phone 7 General] XxAndrexX:
the one wo has to take a look in the mirror is the Author of this topic. I'm tired to hear, WP7 is the best phone because it runs smooth. the only advantage of the whole OS ist the smoothness, the rest is fail. It fails under every aspect until now, and the proving fact is that nobody here in europe owns a WP7, and that the most topics are about angry people complaining for the wasted money.

I was pretty shure that Microsoft would bring with Mango at least all the features like Android and even more, and then with Windows 8, to burn IPhone and Android.

But sadly, Mango is a big fail, and I don't think WP8 will have all the features like the desktop version... 1 Year just passed, and WP7 is still incomplete, and without any customers... So please I don't answer with: WP7 runs smoother than dualcore Androids....

BTW, I don't like Android and IOS either. I hate dumbphones, but sadly it seems to be our future..
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheus1982:
So you dont have a Windows Phone?
[Windows Phone 7 General] drokkon:
What a baiter thread. :) I swore I'd stay away, but I'm WEAK!

I've heard the WP7 OS called immature, but now I'm accused of it. :) No, it's not immaturity, it's defensiveness. When my boss saw my WP7 (he's a Mac guy) he said "Oh, I thought you said you had a SMARTphone." That's what we're up against! :) Pillsburydoughman and Nicksti said it best:

But then Nicksti screwed everything up:

Quite the assertion. If so much as ONE SINGLE ASPECT of a phone is subjective, then nobody can declare that it is "better" than any other phone, except that it is "better" for THEM. I can tell you based on the sheer amount of frustration my mother has with her Android that it is not "better" for her. ;)

Wow. This sounds like my experience with XDA when I was a Tilt owner. I may have to bug out of XDA and head on over to WPCentral. Thanks for the tip!

I don't know what to do with this one. Outdated...hardware? This is just inflammatory, and an indication why this forum is losing it's usefulness to me…

Awesome post, Elbimster! I read the whole thing and would have "thanked" you for it if I'd had any left.

Ironically, andrew-in-working, the whole "more important things in life" is actually the main reason I switched from WinMo to WP7 instead of over to Android! I got a BIG portion of my life back when my temptation to tinker went away. :)

Amen. And I don't game or tinker any more, so that leaves just the one for me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bl4ke:
I do not. I want to have one, but I just can't make that switch yet. As should be evident by my post, I do keep up with what is happening with WP though. I tend to read WMPU, WPCentral, and Winrumors daily. I'm enjoying watching the progression of the phone however slow it may be. I was simply stating what I need in the phone to make that switch happen. Basically, I need what is offered with the iPhone relevant to my needs with the interface of WP, and I hope it will be offered soon.