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[Captivate General] quarlow:
You can turn off vibrate. You can set to vibrate only when ringer on, only when ringer off, or never.

I can see the temptation on the vivid, the potential for the higher Res screen, and I agree between skyrocket and vivid, I bet the vivid will get more support here. Plus, it looks so much nicer, on white.

I do really miss BLN on the captivate. Its still early on the i777, but I have faith soon it will be figured out.

For me it comes down to Sense vs Touchwiz. I had an Aria for a month before the captivate. The things I would miss from touchwiz would be: the notification shade - toggles, music controls, call controls, swipe to change brightness; music controls on lock screen; SNS integration in contacts; etc. All little things, but beyond the launcher is nicer. I know all that can be added with various apps or mods, but it works better when its all built in, by the same company. I feel TW4 is amazing, and TW3 was really good.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[Captivate General] rabbivj:
its hard for me too...i played with an sgs2 today and i loved it. the vivid however i want the sense experience and what ive heard about the skyrocket makes me want to lean towards the vivid for the res and the camera...the processor i could give 2 ****s about as I live in an LTE area and i want an upgrade...i can give it 30 days and see how it goes...
[Captivate General] davidusr:
+1! I still have the "unlimited" data plan. I wanna see how fast I can burn through data before getting throttled on an "unlimited" data plan.

Besides, I have 9 upgrades over 2 different accounts within the next year. I rarely keep a phone long, as with a lot of us here.
[Captivate General] mrhaley30705:
There won't be an unlimited LTE data package. But, I heard a rumor that a guy on VZW lte burned through 21GB in one month.
[Captivate General] quarlow:
If you are on the grandfathered unlimited they let you keep it with LTE phones. But, they will not offer new unlimited plans.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[Captivate General] mrhaley30705:
Not what I've heard. I've heard they will let you keep it for 4G, but not LTE.
[Captivate General] RockRatt:
I spoke with the retention department and asked that question and she confirmed with me that the grandfathered unlimited data (personal data plan KR something lime that) we will keep as long as you stay with your contract. She then said if you leave for another carrier and come back your grandfathered (personal data plan) will NOT be able to be given back.

I wouldn't trust what any of the att reperesentatives would say ever but as far as the retention department she ACTUALLY sounded like she KNEW what she was talking about and not from a written script.

Sent From My KICKASS CM7 AT&T SGS2
[Captivate General] mrhaley30705:
That is good news. Even though I don't usually go over 2GB/month, it's nice knowing that I have unlimited.
[Captivate General] quarlow:
Their press release with the announcement of the phones they said ANY person with smartphone data already will not be required to make ANY changes to their current plan. Plus, the tired plans cost the same. Also, if you try to buy the phone online through att they do not make, or even suggest, you select another data plan. My local att store also confirmed you can keep it without issue, you don't even need to ask.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[Captivate General] rabbivj:
ive already confirmed with ATT that if you still have an unlimited plan your good to go.

my coworker has a bionic and he says hes burned close to 30 cause he watches NFL games on his phone...
[Captivate General] crawlgsx:
I stayed grandfathered in my unlimited data, they didn't add any additional data plan (or even change sim for that matter).

After spending an hour or so playing with the 2 phones today I walked out with the S2 Skyrocket. The decision wasn't even hard after using them a bit, the Skyrocket screen is SO much nicer than the Vivid. If you like dull colors and not being able to see your screen in the sun, than the vivid does have a higher res and DPI but I'd rather have the colors and brightness of the Skyrocket.
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
Tried the Vivid. Quite heavy and big. Not a fan of the colors on the screen either (although I liked the resolution).

I ended up jumping on the SGSII for $99 from Bestbuy instead due to the dev community.
[Captivate General] Aus_Azn:
Unless you're addicted to streaming mobile music or video, I don't see how you can even come close to 2GB of monthly data. LTE shouldn't change that.
[Captivate General] malickie:
How did you manage to get the SGSII for $99 when it is $149.99 that I can see anyway.
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
Original sgsii is $99 at Target this week with upgrade ;)

Skyrocket is 149 at the ATT store.
[Captivate General] gakzilla:
I've had my captivate for about a year and installed almost every rom that came across the board. My favorite was apex9.x but lately it was crashing the phone. GPS sucked, figured I'd retire it, return to stock and give it to my mom.

I got to use both the skyrocket and vivid today and ended up buying the vivid. The skyrocket is a BIG phone (not an issue) but it felt flimsy and cheap. The screen wasn't as crisp as the vivid and it wasn't as snappy as I thought a 1.5ghz would perform. I would think that after a bloat removal that the phone would perform better but I was dying to get out of my cappy.

I really like the HTC. I've only had it for a day so I can't really report on much other than that it is quick and adding launcherpro helped out a lot. This thing also has sideloading enabled from the get go. The only thing weird that I found is that market didn't allow me to find handcent and amazon app store?? Found the apks and installed it from within the phone. Also, using the phone while plugged in sucks. Royally. They put the usb port in the worst spot ever. The screen is SUPER crisp compared to the skyrocket as well.

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bingo. no changes whatsoever on my grandfathered plan. They accidentally swapped me to the 2gb plan but quickly set me back to the unlimited.
[Captivate General] Aus_Azn:
The performance problems with the Skyrocket, I'd assume, are that the Snapdragon isn't as good as the Exynos.

I'm almost 100% going to buy a Vivid when my upgrade is up.
[Captivate General] pside15:
The Handcent issue is a problem with the Market. The company that makes Handcent is trying to correct the issue with Google.

The Amazon App store is not on the market. You have to get the apk from Amazon or somewhere else.
[Captivate General] sola fide:
I thought the Vivid has the Snapdragon processor? I was under the impression that the Skyrocket did not have the Snapdragon processor. Am I wrong?
[Captivate General] crawlgsx:
They are both snapdragon. The Original S2 is Exynos.

The difference in snappyness at the store is 2 things:

1 - stock the Skyrocket is bloated, and has a bunch of useless widgets running. Plus touchwiz and Samsungs other bloat

2 - These are demo phones, changed and used a million times by random people messing with the phone. Probably never rebooted. etc..

I did a factory reset on both of them when I got to the store and used both, neither was any quicker than the other (which was a little surprising since it's 1.2 vs 1.5ghz) but I felt no laggyness on either one.

When I got home I tweaked my Skyrocket up a bit and removed all the crap widgets and it is lightning fast. Its as fast, if not faster, than my Infuse was with ADW in FAST mode or CM7, only now I have the beauty of Touchwiz. The phone literally never hesitates.
[Captivate General] gakzilla:
true.. but I was the first in line at the store when they opened and the phone were just released sunday morning..
[Captivate General] \/icious:
Everything I've read about the phone says it has an exynos processor. Do you have a link show otherwise?

EDIT nvm I found it. Guess I just lost interest in the skyrocket lol
[Captivate General] Aus_Azn:
What's with all the Snapdragon hate?
[Captivate General] Cruxado:
I had the same dilemma. Both companies are great, since within my family we've had Samsung and HTC phones, and I was seriously considering the S2 Rocketship. Frankly the HTC Vivid took me by surprise! I wasn't expecting it!

After much research and comparison I'm opting for the HTC Vivid and here's why.

1) unlocked Bootloader from HTC

2) qHD LCD display

3) HTC Sense

The original reason why I got an HTC phone was precisely for the Sense GUI. Right now I've been able to get Gingerbread and some Sense 3.0 features onto my Aria and I feel right at home. This alone will let me migrate to the new phone easily. (No learning curve)

qHD LCD, as I've seen on videos, is much more efficient under the sun versus the AMOLED display form the S2. Granted, the S2 looks better and has better viewing angles, but this is NOT an issue for me because I will NOT use my 4.5in display to watch movies nor series... that's what my Calibrated Sony 32in is for! :)

Lastly, but not least, unlocked bootloader! A key factor to run SU programs. Not only that but to update my stock ROM into XDA developed custom ROMs. I like to know that I am in control of my hardware and not the other way around, am I right iPhone users? :cool:
[Captivate General] Nerz:
Is it already unlocked? Or do you have to go to htc site and get unlock code, thus voiding warranty?
[Captivate General] tpliquid:
anyone know if bestbuy can do early upgrade?

My upgrade is on 12/20
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
I was under the impression that they will unlock it, but unsure of when.

I'm liking my SGSII so far though!
[Captivate General] mrgrossm:
I've never understood how people say the at&t samsung phones feel cheap until I held the skyrocket. Maybe it was the size, but it felt like a squeeze of the hand would snap it in two.
[Captivate General] captivate-sg:
Get the samsung, always better in gaming/graphic experience compared to HTC :D
[Captivate General] Aus_Azn:
I really couldn't care less. The GS1 was such a crap phone that I've been scarred for life from a Samsung Android device.
[Captivate General] GSLEON3:
HTC Vivid vs. Samsung SkyRocket.... My winner is...

Yup, I went to the local AT&T shop on November 6th, expecting, knowing I would walk out with the Samsung Skyrocket.

I spent much time playing & loading up both devices as I know my local store's business manager. Played out in the sun, in the store & on 4G LTE here in the North Dallas area.

After much contemplation (and Smart Phone/Device experience starting in 2002) I left that store with the HTC Vivid.

It is a thing of beauty for the business user that like features in an elegant and understated form factor.

The device is truly responsive and after going through the Windows Mobile Sense integration and inception, it was great to have it on a device it felt truly made for. It is fast, very responsive (even straight out of the box) and the Video and Camera are super. the Qhd display is nice and it seems the device fully and correctly utilizes the 1.2Ghz Dual Core processor.

Many articles showing sub-par bench marks just don't do the device justice. I have always known that it is a virtual impossibility to really have a accurate benchmark program that factors in every processor, every configuration and every spec feature crammed into a small 5 - 28Mb program.

I had sworn off HTC for life as my last best experience was PPC2003SE. My old device was the fastest thing to date. Finally, HTC has reclaimed much of my waning respect.

While they are both great 4G choices, the Sense UI and ability to customize along with HTC's recent outshining in the software updates category (Samsung's record here is less the desireable) as well as on par performance side by side, HTC and the Vivid was the device I chose despite my misgivings and sworn disgust of HTC.

This is a solid device for the Market originally intended for the Smart Phone, the savvy business user that wants to work smarter to stay ahead of the competition. This is no Iphone clone for the drunken frat party, albeit you may enjoy the HD, later in life, blackmail videos and pics.
[Captivate General] saint168:
After the Captivate PITA experience, I promised myself not to buy another Samsung phone. However, it was still difficult to decide between the SGSII and Vivid. At the end, it came down to Sense 3.0 and $50 price different. So far I'm happy with my new phone, the only problem I have so far is battery life but I've been messing with it a lot in the last 2 days.
[Captivate General] bravomail:
Can't believe this. HTC trolls all over the place. Even Engadget acknowledges Skyrocket's superiority. And there is no going back to LCD after AMOLED.

:eek:
[Captivate General] kangi26:
I know this is not the original discussion but, Originally, I was going to opt for the SGS II, but I decided to go with Nexus Prime when out finally comes to AT&T. But now that I've seen the specs on the HTC Edge. That is my new selection for my next upgrade

Sent from a autonomous device
[Captivate General] Nerz:
i agree. I does look sexy. I'll Just have to adjust to the screen size.
[Captivate General] Aus_Azn:
The only thing that it's lacking is LTE support. When's the ETA for voice over LTE again?
[Captivate General] Nakel:
After having owned both the Skyrocket and the Vivid for a few days, here are a couple of my thoughts. I hope this helps your decision process. This is all just my opinion.

I like the feel of the Skyrocket in my hand better.

The Skyrocket's web browser is not resizing websites when you pinch to expand. The Vivid does.

The Skyrocket's screen colors are brighter than the Vivid's, but light colored websites and text on a full white background is significantly

dimmer.

Reading ebooks is better on the Vivid, or--for that matter--my Inspire.

The Skyrocket has the charging/USB port where it belongs, on the bottom. The Vivid's is on the side. That's worse for charging cradles and using the phone while charging.

I like the screen resolution on the

Skyrocket

better. Fonts are easier to read for those with less than perfect vision. Some of the Vivid's Fonts are downright tiny.

The Vivid works flawlessly with my Motorola H17 headsets. Cyberon works great. The Skyrocket has been basically useless with the H17; how it works with voice command I don't know. This may be a compatibility issue, but still...

Synching to Outlook with the Vivid is painless and free with HTC Synch. Synching to Outlook with the Skyrocket is a PITA and costs $50. (For the third party PC program.) Perhaps there's a better way I haven't found.

Volume is FAR better on the Skyrocket.

Battery life is better on the Skyrocket.

The Vivid can turn Bluetooth volume down further. That's a big deal when on the phone with a loud talker.

Sense (Vivid) is better than Touchwiz (Skyrocket).

Both have data issues right now.

Both are plenty fast enough.
[Captivate General] eortizr:
@Nakel,, so at the end what is your choice?

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I went to AT&T today to play with both phones and the intentions to get a new one... I left the store with my old captivate,, I did not find a WOW factor on neither phone. 4G is cool , but thats about it.. both phones felt cheap and plastiki, the syrocket looks like if you squeeze it to hard it will break on your hand. The Vivid is not what you are use to get from HTC. even the HTC aria looks better.

I will just try to get a International GSII and wait till next year, cuz right now there is no reason to waste my upgrade...
[Captivate General] Nakel:
I'm not sure yet. I want it to be the Skyrocket, but the dim screen for reading Ebooks may be a killer. Weird, because the Skyrocket has this great, bright, colorful screen. But black text on a white background is really pretty poor. (I read a lot on my phone...) Combined with the Outlook synch issue and the bluetooth issues and I'm torn. I love the feel of the skyrocket and the screen for everything but text. Truth? I'll probably return 'em both and hang on to the Inspire for a bit. See what comes out or if things improve with one or the other.
[Captivate General] RDI:
I read lots of eBooks, set your reader for white text on black screen. Usually running a finger up & down the left edge adjusts brightness. Black requires No power, so you use less in this configuration.

SGH-I897 w/Modem UCKK2

Samurai Kernel 1.3

with zipalign & lagfix

Illuminance 1.1.0 2.3.5
[Captivate General] Nakel:
Good advice; I know about adjusting the brightness in the app. The only problem is, I hate white text on a black screen. I like black text on a white screen. I know it uses more power, but oh well. Thanks for the post though!
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
I myself ended up with a SGSII. Picked it over the Skyrocket mainly for the Dev Support stemming from the i9100 which is not the case for the Skyrocket.
[Captivate General] mossination:
Sorry to bring a dead thread up but I was wondering if the skyrocket is almost identical to the regular sgs2 like how the vibrant and captivate are to the i9000. I didn't have a choice because my dad bought both of us skyrockets (lighting fast btw). I was trying to look for the skyrocket forum on xda but couldnt find it.
[Captivate General] mrhaley30705:
Try using the tapatalk app instead of xda app. Xda hadn't updated the app in awhile.
[Captivate General] Pirateghost:
they are not alike

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1399
[Captivate General] mossination:
Thanks I just went on the browser version. Wow. Lol that whole forum looks pretty new. I was also wondering...the processors are what separate the sgs2 and the rocket right? (Aside from the ghz difference) What im asking is would the rocket be considered the most "powerful" phone on the market?
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
SGSII is higher end in terms of HW and Dec support. SR had LTE and a bigger screen.
[Captivate General] Aus_Azn:
General consensus seems to prefer the Exynos over the Snapdragon, despite the -.3GHz clock difference.

It's pretty much a matter of whether you want LTE when it hits your area.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
If you don't already have it and aren't getting it soon, then it's not worthwhile to get an LTE phone now.
[Captivate General] mossination:
No they were sort of free so couldn't really pass up on that. Ive played with the rocket a bit and its already lightyears faster than the cappy. From looking around xda a bit the gs2 would of been better but im happy with just having the rocket.
[Captivate General] MikeyMike01:
It's not really that much faster than the Captivate.
[Captivate General] mossination:
The screen size makes it seem that way. The browser is most definitely faster.
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
The screen size makes it seem faster? That doesn't make sense...

And the browser isn't faster. The network speed is if you're on LTE.
[Captivate General] mossination:
Sorry. What I meant was the screen size was the biggest difference I saw and that I liked it. (Just opinion). I tested the browser on the stock rom rocket against my cappy with a custom rom and the rocket was significantly faster. I tested them both on the same "wifi".
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
Oh sorry, for some reason I thought you were referring to a SGSII ;)
[Captivate General] aex90832:
Personally, id just get the NON LTE Galaxy S II because by the time LTE is widely available, you will be wanting an even better phone anyways..

I'm actually about to buy the international version specifically because of the bigger development following..
[Captivate General] qwertyaas:
There's already a tool over at ATT SGSII that Ports over i9100 roms (called Hellraiser).

It's a great phone.
[Captivate General] saint168:
These new devices are faster because they are HSPDA+ compatible. I'm getting 5M+ down and 1M+ up on my Vivid without LTE but my Captivate had never gone over 3M down 1M up.
[Captivate General] mrhaley30705:
It's actually HSPA+, not HSDPA. HSDPA is just the download portion of HSPA+. HSUPA is the upload portion. If your wondering it means

High

Speed

Upload or Download

Packet

Allocation

And I actually pulled 5Mbps down and 1.09 up on my captivate using an I9000 modem (BVJJW2).
[Captivate General] LR07:
skyrocket all day
[Captivate General] iSeeNubs:
Yeah I'm in the same boat as well. There are definitely pros and cons to each device but since the Vivid bootloader is not unlocked atm, the dev community isn't as progressed as the Skyrocket. How does the WVGA resolution fair on the SR? I've used the OGSGS2 before and the screen still looks very sharp imo but I have yet to try it out on the SR. Judging from previous experiences, would I get better dev support for the HTC or Samsung in the long run? This is gonna be my first Android phone coming straight off of iOS so I hope to get a good start with it.
[Captivate General] mrhaley30705:
Neither. Both have active CIQ baked in.
[Captivate General] mossination:
The custom roms in the skyrocket dev forum take it out.
[Captivate General] trell959:
I say sgs2 non skyrocket. You get a better processor in my opinion
[Captivate General] iSeeNubs:
The problem is that Rogers doesn't carry the Exynos S2, just the SR, otherwise I would've gotten it in a heartbeat. :P
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sugarmurali:
I'm using xUltimate 2.3.3 for Samsung Galaxy SL GT-i9003. I'm facing the below error when running with option 3

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Starting BuddiesNow.odex

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* Deodexing... *

* Redexing... *

* Processing... *

* Compressing/Aligning... *

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BuddiesNow.apk Finished!

Starting CallSetting.odex

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* Deodexing... *

* Redexing... *

out\com\sec\android\app\callsetting\voicecall\Call Barring.smali[0,0] null

* Processing... *

The system cannot find the file specified.

Press any key to continue . . .

Please help me to fix the same. I've found some APK files under the origi_app with no *.odex file with the same name as the *.apk file. I've removed them from the origi_app folder to force the option 3 run to complete. But the process stops even for some APK files has ODEX files. There were 145 APK and 105 ODEX files under origi_app folder. Made as 105 APK and ODEX files, but still the option 3 run didn't succeed.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mackman86:
First off, thanks for an amazing rom! Super fast and clean.

Forgive me, I'm new to this. I was able to flash this with Odin. Couple things I've noticed:

It booted up rooted I think (bc of Superuser?), but didn't require a phone wipe. All my apps and texts were still present. Did the phone needed to have a master reset on it as well?

Also, I love the new battery indicator, minus the numbers. Is it possible to have that same animation and colors but without the % in the field? If so, whats the process to adding that to the device?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me, I appreciate it!
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mackman86:
How do you apply updates? Do I rename the files to 'update.zip' then apply them in recovery mode?