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[Android Software Development] sybaek:
LMT v2.9 beta3 seems to make Android Pie's volume pop up last for much longer than usual (20 seconds). Turning off LMT in the accessibility services seems to make the symptom go away and the volume only pops up for about 3 seconds.
[Android Software Development] thereal_bigjake:
Wow I couldn't figure out what was causing that and now I know, thanks ?
[Android Software Development] doctorew:
Thanks for your time and work! I've loved and used lmt since you started this project. Hope that my logs can help you out.

Pixel 2xl running Android Pie, rooted, and latest Flash kernel. No substratum.

Using 2.9 beta 3

Crashes when pressing app item

Lmk if I can assist further!
[Android Software Development] noname81:
This bug should be fixed with the next beta. Thanks!
[Android Software Development] noname81:
All LMT versions had this problem when accessibility service was active. I "never" found a way to workaround this. Thanks to this article on XDA (https://www.xda-developers.com/why-android-phone-volume-dialog/) I was now able to fix it. The fix will be part of the next beta.
[Android Software Development] r.albu:
Oreo here.

Meanwhile, if we move the phone from portrait to landscape (or vice versa) the pop-up goes away (at least for me). Don't know if it works with Pie.
[Android Software Development] s7dhansh:
I am using lmt beta 3 on op2 pixel experience pie beta rom. As mentioned above the app launchers/activities are not working. For now, I am using tasker to create tasks for the launcher and using taks on the pie .
[Android Software Development] noname81:
This is already fixed. I'll push a new beta soon.
[Android Software Development] phpbb3:
Hey [MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION] ! Huge fan of LMT, been using it since cm12 was released as a navbar replacement. Thanks a millionfold for your dedication.

On 2.9 beta 3, occasionally the pie menu appears lower on the screen then it should, resulting in part of the menu being off screen. It had persisted through several clean installs, but I never thought to post here until now. So I called the app over and over using the bottom activation area until it happened, and then pulled a log.

I am running AICP 13.1 Oreo on an Essential PH-1 (mata) and LMT 2.9 beta 3. Logcat is attached! Please let me know if there's anything else I can do.
[Android Software Development] noname81:
Hi, a log won't help here much. But could you somehow get a screenshot when it's happening? This would hopefully help to to understand the issue and find a fix for it.
[Android Software Development] phpbb3:
No problem! I've included another screenshot of what it should look like with my setup for reference. Thanks for the quick response.
[Android Software Development] thereal_bigjake:
Oh man I can't wait for the next update, Pie feels crippled without full fuctioning LMT. LMT has been a huge part of my Android experience for as long as I can remember! Such a huge fan [MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION]
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
+1 and lol I can't remember where I downloaded 2.9 beta from ???

Sent from my SM-G965W ??
[Android Software Development] Natakranta:
Yes. I can't wait. I updated my wife's Pixel 2 to Pie this week and then I realised LMT is not able to launch apps.

Thanks [MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION] for your continuous support ?
[Android Software Development] phpbb3:
https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1330150&p=77216047

:good:
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
Yeah thanks I did eventually find where I did download it from - For some reason I was thinking that I got it from noname81's git... Failing memory lol ? ?

Sent from my SM-G965W ??
[Android Software Development] jaladhjin:
[MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION] long time lover of LMT :D Thanks much for all the years.

One thing I've always wondered but never bothered to ask.. are there any current features to hide the soft nav bar on devices that have them ?

I've always done the build.prop mod to hide mine or had a custom rom with a GUI option to do so so I've never really bothered to ask..

But now here I am.. curious if the feature already exists & I've missed it all this time.. or if you might consider adding a nav bar removal :D
[Android Software Development] noname81:
There is an immersive mode toggle action in LMT since some versions. I works well when you just use the pie from the sides as me and you can always swipe in status and navbar if you need it. Regarding always hiding the navbar there are in addition to the build.prop method themes or Xposed modules available.
[Android Software Development] Ayan Uchiha Choudhury:
LMT is my must downloaded app from 2013. Won't update to Pie till the Dev doesn't update. Way too hooked to the app
[Android Software Development] Natakranta:
Yup. My Essential Phone came last Friday. It updated to Pie. What a pain to use it without LMT pie. It's stronger than me, before I think I slide to launch app from pie, 5 years muscles memory, and nothing happens. Then I curse 9 the Pie.

[MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION], you just can't come soon enough with pie Pie update :D
[Android Software Development] deskjet390:
My lmt works with pie....

I think I installed mine from a titanuim backup though...

So I recommend trying to install it from a titanium backup with all settings data intact. I was on Oreo when I did the backup

Check it out...

And update.... I'm an idiot and didn't read everything before posting this. It seems FULL funtionalty for those users that use LMT for a whole lot more than me is what seems to be broken. I only use it for very minimal pie controls which do not have an issue as illustrated in my screen shot.
[Android Software Development] lynnux:
I'm also on Pie, on rooted Essential phone, and LMT is working for the most part. Only bug is that apps won't open if I'm on Magisk v. 16.7, on 16.0 all but a few apps open. It's a little bit of a hassle, as a new app that needs root permission won't get it on 16.0, so I have to go to 16.7 to get permission, then go back to 16.0 so LMT works.

Not having LMT is torture for me, too, so I'm willing to deal with the workarounds.
[Android Software Development] s7dhansh:
You may use the tasker trick that I use for now, until [MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION] releases the new beta. All the icons become tasker icons, but my case is also about the muscle memory and it works for now, at least 90% of the times. Sometime the apps fail to open but I am pretty sure it is because I have removed both their notifications and they are battery optimized.
[Android Software Development] Ayan Uchiha Choudhury:
exactly so true. i have the same basic setup since 5 years,a few changes here and there, in android P my hand went way too much to open the lmt and open these apps due to which the app stopped!! This app has been absolutely the best!!! A huge thanks to the dev for this and his continued support to P even!!
[Android Software Development] Natakranta:
If you click on icon next to task you set, you can set the icon manually. Just download form webz icons for your aps you set tasker tasks on pie to open and set them manually assigning to elements on the pie. Easy peasy custom squizzy :D
[Android Software Development] tomy82boy:
please... where can i download the lmt beta 3 version???
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
I'm pretty sure that noname81 hasn't posted it yet - patience ?
[Android Software Development] sybaek:
He posted beta 3 a few pages back.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77216047&postcount=13403

However, he's mentioned that he'll have a new version soon to address some of the newer problems.
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
Yeah that's beta 2.9 ?

Sent from my SM-G965W ??
[Android Software Development] nasir.da.vinci:
[MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION] looks like this project not longer updating and adding features.

Please release source on github so we can develop it further.

We need your source please.
[Android Software Development] DroidFreak32:
How did you just directly assume the project is dead? Any source from where you got that info?
[Android Software Development] OSheden:
Are you a developer yourself? There are actually (and unfortunately) few independant devs who work on open source projects. So sharing the source code may not help at all. Some people could take the code, include ads and publish the new version on Google Play...

Advice: read the recent posts before posting such a message :eek:
[Android Software Development] nasir.da.vinci:
yes, but i cant say im a good developer. If he is worried of ad and no development then gpl is there. I think many features is possible with this source. we can do amazing things with deep linking and activity launcher. this can beat badly the idea of 3d touch.

we can buy ticket ,call message someone , search somthing, trace lost mobile (by triggring link) in just a single swipe.

unlimited possiblity. Rom package developer will also join i guess.

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nothing is changing just some bug fixes is being published from 3 years.
[Android Software Development] DroidFreak32:
It's better off being what it's meant to be. We don't want it to get bloated with all sorts of things.

It happened with es file explorer and now mx player. Let lmt be unchanged
[Android Software Development] nasir.da.vinci:
who told you that mx and es bloated due to being open. Do you know lmt has codes from ics browser quick control. We don't have this masterpiece(lmt) if ics was not open.
[Android Software Development] damngood98:
perhaps try reading the last several pages...development is far from dead...as is the case all over these boards, it takes a little time to respond after a major bump in Android is released...and if you have other ideas you'd like to see implemented there is a much more appropriate way to go about requesting such things
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
lol - Google es explorer - It's full of spyware! noname81 is the Dev & it's up to him what he wants to do - If you want something different - You can go & develop your own ?

Sent from my SM-G965W ??
[Android Software Development] :
I agree that LMT being open source would be neat, but some of these dudes don't know what they're saying. For one, if LMT was open source and people forked it with a bunch of bloat, you could just avoid the bloated ones and go for the ones that publish their source code and do LMT in the way that most fits what you believe LMT should be like. Like custom ROMs, for example. There are some ROMs I know I'd avoid at all costs, while others I believe in their development philosophy as well as love reading how elegant their code is.

LMT is the only gesture navigation with something like Pie Pointer. In the right hands, it could be improved. Heck, if LMT was open source we'd be able to just submit pull requests with our improved code and noname could add it in if he agrees on it being good. For example, triggering Pie Pointer from an ISA just flat out doesn't work. That can be fixed. Also, this issue has been there forever.

And if noname uses GitHub release tags, we could make a simple Telegram channel that gives us update notifications when LMT is updated (I've tried before to make a channel that checks the OP for changed text, but that failed miserably).

Plus we could probably have LMT's notifications actually using what's been available for the past, what, 5 years? Notification access rather than accessibility. And maybe the ability to drag the pie to other sides of the screen rather than going into the settings every time (for example if you wanted to move your pie from the right side to bottom real fast).

So yeah, LMT being open source would open up so much potential and give us LMT fans some real input on the navigation replacement we've come to know and love.
[Android Software Development] IronTechmonkey:
The reason it may seem to you as if the project is not being updated could be because you're not really following this thread or the project. Also, you want more features but you've provided no constructive feedback about what those features could be. :rolleyes:

I hope you can understand that feedback presented without apparent knowledge of the project history, and without constructive feedback, while requesting that the developer relinquish control of the project to others would not be well-received. If you have some constructive ideas for future development you could share them here. ;)

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Although I disagree with some (but not all) of your ideas, and I think there's more that could be contributed through this thread, and think that leaving it up to individuals to find the the best of many possibly bad variants can be damaging to an app's reputation, at least your ideas include knowledge of the app and its history as well as constructive feedback.
[Android Software Development] DiamondJohn:
Regarding open source. The source is someones property. As such, if they choose not to open source it, then, the matter is settled; he knows some people want it open sourced by now.

I personally feel we should be grateful for what we have received thus far.

Just ,my two cents.;)
[Android Software Development] nasir.da.vinci:
It depends on him. No need to flood.
[Android Software Development] IronTechmonkey:
If you don’t like floods then don’t dynamite dams. :silly:

But seriously; Within noname81's tolerance for it, the discussion of the merits of open or closed source doesn’t get cut off after you've had your say and had your fill of it while others have not. Again to the point that your ideas may have merit but the presentation was lacking, so to that point, this question (to which the nature of the source does not matter): What new features would you suggest?
[Android Software Development] nasir.da.vinci:
I already breifly told. We can make many version of it.

1. I think we can make a lmt browser that can launch deep links of any apps. We can call/message/whatsapp/pay to specific contact in a single swipe. (Thanks to 3d touch after android 7)

2. We can make searches in specific app in a single swipe.

3. Hope you have seen chromepie (i analysed The code that is also open) in that app after reaching an action a sub action can be executed. So we can activate search in es file manager in just a single swipe.

Even we can make micro action of a sub action and integrate keyboard (just an idea I'll confirm it later and Provide a code here and this will be possible by only root)

4. Snapping the pie pointer can make it a wizard stick.

5. We can extend the last app and next app. Get all recent app and set it as a sub action.

6. We can run script as sub action(like chromepie did).

7. And best thing we can add user friendly and beautiful ui. Becouse it's a complex app i bet 80% of lmt users have not completly explored the app features of it.

!! Actually swiping is the future !!
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
It's one thing to make a request for additional features - But it's another thing all together to continue to what appears to be an effort to hijack [MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION]'s Thread!

If anyone isn't happy with the ongoing development & the time & effort that the Dev has put into this terrific app - Maybe develop your own - or try something else... My thoughts on the subject ?
[Android Software Development] ofirmz:
Hi., The latest beta 3 ., Doesnt work on lockscreen., I dont even see the toggle to the lockscreen., Can some help me., Nexus 6P Oreo.,
[Android Software Development] OSheden:
No longer possible since Oreo: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76514117&postcount=13319
[Android Software Development] tomy82boy:
Lmt launcher pie control beta 2,9 :)

okay! thx!
[Android Software Development] eeebbr:
Hey, been using this app for years and can't seem to be able to use my phone without it.

Using mi max 2 and now switched oreo rom-mam xtended rom.

The pie states "app" instead of the regular apps icons. Anyway to fix this or this is an oreo problem?

The waze app icon does shows up.

Also, I see that there is no development on this app anymore.

Did I miss an app release(free or paid) or the app developer abandoned this?

Any help would be much appreciated.
[Android Software Development] elhennig:
Search in this Thread for the 2.9 beta 3 version
[Android Software Development] eeebbr:
Thank you, it is working now.
[Android Software Development] neekless:
[MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION] Having some problems with lmt in landscape with navbar enabled. I will try to explain as clear as I can. I enabled pie for left+right+bottom.

Case 1:

Disabled navbar.

Turn the phone to landscape (top of phone on the left).

All 3 sides of pie work.

Turn the phone to landscape (top of phone on the right this time). All 3 sides of pie work too.

Case 2:

Enabled navbar.

Turn the phone to landscape (top of phone on the left). The navbar will be on the right.

Left and bottom sides of pie work, as expected since the right is covered by the navbar.

Turn the phone to landscape (top of phone on the right this time). The navbar will be on the left, so left side pie will not work, which is expected.

Bottom side of pie work, but right side doesn't. What's weird is if I change the thickness or length of the activation area, the black bar indicators still appear on all 3 sides. Swiping from the right makes the right black bar disappear as usual (which means it's detecting me swiping from the right) but the pie does not appear.

Is this a known issue?
[Android Software Development] gimpy1:
Although I've used pie for quite a while, I just started using the pointer. My question is how do I get the pointer to come up on the screen so I can use it.

Seldom does it come up. It takes several tries normally or never does it come up, so what is the trick to use it? Is it something in the settings or do I need tio touch a certain spot on the screen? Orr???
[Android Software Development] juliusedward:
Assign pie pointer to one of the pie slices. Easier way to trigger pointer
[Android Software Development] s7dhansh:
Hi [MENTION=292685]NoName[/MENTION], sorry to trouble you, but any update on the new beta? Beta 3 is pretty inconsistent on 9, and sometimes takes upto 20 secs to launch an app via tasker.
[Android Software Development] noname81:
I fixed one last problem I found with LMT on P today, so I can push a new beta. Can you please test this new version and let me know, when you find issues with P? Thanks! :)
[Android Software Development] hugozo:
no longer available ?
[Android Software Development] letmedanz:
Just installed - apps launching from pie perfectly.

Will use further and update if any thing to report.

Thank you!
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
Yes it is - On Webview you have to wait a second - On XDA-LABS or Tapatalk it's immediately available - Be sure to Thank noname81 ?
[Android Software Development] Lodberg:
And more importantly: donate!
[Android Software Development] lynnux:
Beta 4 fixed one problem I was having--apps wouldn't be triggered in Pie on Magisk 17.1, they would be triggered on Magisk 16.0. However, some apps won't get rooted on 16.0. So I was always having to root apps by loading 17.1 and then going back to 16.0 so I could fully use LMT.

Thanks! For me this is a big improvement!
[Android Software Development] thereal_bigjake:
For me everything is working but kill app. Would a log help in this case?
[Android Software Development] STEELBAS:
Thanks for your work on this app, noname81, I use it with much love on my unfortunately unrootable Huawei Mate 10 Pro.

I have a question: I tried using Pie Control (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jun.ace.piecontrol) before, but I much prefer the way LMT works. However, switching to the last active app worked fine without root in Pie Control, but LMT needs root for it. Why is that?

I tried using Last App Switcher (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abhi.lastappswitcher) to add the function, but that keeps starting Huawei's torch app for some reason. Something to do with this weird Emui system that's imposed on vanilla android with Huawei phones...
[Android Software Development] GermainZ:
[MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION] have you had the time to look into this (to activate LMT on the lockscreen on Oreo+) and these suggestions, by any chance?
[Android Software Development] hugozo:
hi

on oneplus6 & last omnirom 9.0 & lmt beta4, pie don't work at bottom but fine left or right

is there something i miss in setting ?
[Android Software Development] letmedanz:
Have you enabled the activation areas you need in settings?
[Android Software Development] Natakranta:
Updated on my Mrs Pixel 2 stock rooted Magisk 17.1 unofficial kantjer build

Apps are finally being launched from pie. Works like a charm. I can start thinking of updating rom to Pie myself now.

Thanks, have a pint on my expense :good:

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[Android Software Development] hugozo:
Of course, bottom, left, right are enabled

and i have to set activation area thickness to 250 in order to work properly

i think it's more a rom related because the default value for the thickness (30) was working on omni 8.1

In this case (omni 9.0), there is a kind of " dead zone " in which pie can't be activated, and after this "dead zone", pie can be activate

But, visually, it's ....how to say......horrible
[Android Software Development] hugozo:
Same behaviour (deadzone) on LiquidRemix 10..0 rom
[Android Software Development] mfc007:
Hi developer i have a question I like your work, if I do a donation will the pie control stops the expiration??
[Android Software Development] Paschfire:
No, that's not how any of this works.
[Android Software Development] neekless:
No. The expiration date is to ensure that people update LMT are not stuck with an older version that may have problems. Every time LMT is updated the expiration date should be extended.
[Android Software Development] [Jaco69]:
I am on OnePlus 6 one Pie and I have some icon bigger then others, do you know why? Anything I can do?

Inviato dal mio ONEPLUS A6003 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Android Software Development] kkuhle:
Hi [MENTION=1864347]noname81[/MENTION] thanks for continuing to maintain this glorious app! Pie pointer edge seems to have been removed in the recent betas. I use this all the time so I hope this isn't intentional. If so, any chance we can get it back?

Can anyone suggest the best way to hide the navigation bar on Oreo? Modifying build prop does not work for me anymore. I am currently using wm overscan 0,0,0,-150 from Tasker to toggle. It's nice to be able to toggle using root, but if there is a better way that will allow using the bottom area for activation, that would be nice to learn about.

Using this method shows the indicator on the bottom of the screen will activate, but then LMT acts like there is still a navigation bar. If I press just in the right spot (the top of where the nav bar would be) I can get it to activate, but obviously this is not useable. Pie pointer also behaves as though a navigation bar is present and will not allow me to use it on the bottom of the screen, so it just seems to act as though the nav bar is still there.
[Android Software Development] hugozo:
same behaviour, but on pie rom
[Android Software Development] EMJI79:
I use "Gesture Control" app from the PlayStore.

Otherwise lots of people use XDA Navigation Gestures app.
[Android Software Development] kkuhle:
Do these apps allow using bottom activation in LMT or do people use them as an alternative and use side activation in LMT?
[Android Software Development] EMJI79:
I just checked for you: I use Gesture Control app but when I disable it, I can't use LMT in the bottom, only on the right side as I usually do.

So it is not a solution for you. Sorry to have mislead you.
[Android Software Development] damngood98:
Yeah I have this too...I changed the app to something else and then back again but it didn't resolve it. So far that's about all I've tried but I'll try a few other things when I can. Will let you know if I figure any of it out