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[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Somewhere else that ei22 rdf said 2.3.5 because that's why are waiting this long for gb cuz they started with 2.3.3 then 2.3.4 then went to 2.3.5 so if ei22 is not 2.3.5 then that repaired phone is a fake. But its been said that the baseband is not able to be faked. I bet you that phone is not a repaired phone but a sprint techs phone. They somehow got their hands on the newer update. Maybe they are testing for final release and so they also see what it looks like and are familiar with using it. I don't really believe that one random person got lucky after a repair and now has gb. This is a sprint employee of some sort.
[Epic 4G General] Stoney60:
My touch is 2.3.4. EG30. Just remember that humble pie I was talking about Sunday.
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
In the Baseband version string "S: D700.0.5S.EI22" the ".5" signifies that the phone is built on retail hardware, whereas ".4" indicates a test phone, I believe. "D700" is the shortened model code for the Epic 4G (from SPH-D700), while "EI22" (or whatever you may have--I have "EH17" due to running the CM alpha) is the version number of the modem, with "EH17" corresponding to a build date of 17 AUG 2011 and "EI22" meaning a build date of 22 SEP 2011.

I'm pretty sure, anyhow. If I'm wrong, somebody will quickly let me know around here, that's a given!
[Epic 4G General] jaaka78:
I think you have everything right except "h17" is August 17 and "I22" is September 22. The numbers are based on the date of the build, not the date of release. Also, H is the 8th letter of the alphabet and I is the 9th.
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
Thanks, I knew somebody would set me straight!
[Epic 4G General] mkasick:
The "official" GB sources that were briefly posted on Samsung's website a few weeks ago contains, as usual, the GPL subset of Android platform sources they're obligated to make available. Although these typically are not very useful to us, the "SPH-D700_GB_Platform.txt" README does contain this:

1. Get android open source.
: version info - Android gingerbread 2.3.5(r1)
( Download site : http://source.android.com )

Suggesting that the GB build that source release was intended to go with is actually Android 2.3.5.

As for the photo, it could easily be faked but I'm inclined to believe it's real. Given that the latest rdf, EI22, is over a month ago, and an official source tarball was accidentally uploaded to Samsung's Opensource site, itself built on 10/6 and containing 2.3.5 GPL platform sources, this kind of accident is entirely plausible.

Hopefully the official update does hit soon, just so we can be done with it.
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
Long time ago I did a similar photo of my Epic. Not to be suspicious but look at my reflection in the Epic screen and compare to the pic in question. Looks like a Photoshopped insert of the screen. There is a case and possible anti-glare screen protector but still looks fake.

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
Look at the margins left and right they dont look symmetrical yet on my phone they do and I'm pretty sure that is the same exact case that i have
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Actually, it looks like a bad installation of an anti-glare screen protector, notice the lower right corner is lifting a little. You can see a reflection of the person taking the photo, but it's very fuzzy in the area covered by the screen protector. Of course, unless this guy uploads the rom none of this means squat.
[Epic 4G General] steveo314:
If I had the money i'd hire a bounty hunter to track that guy down and take his phone like in the stride comercials. We need that dump.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] steveo314:
Comparing the two pictures on this post, its not the same covers on the phones and the supposed EI22 phone has a lot more light in the room. My new opinion is this phone accidentally got upgraded while being refurbed or it is an actual build test device.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
"And remember, we want them alive. No disintegration."
[Epic 4G General] cocalc:
I would be laughing all day if the community could get this dropped before Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
So Sprint will only release it if XDA users believe a picture that could be easily faked? ;)

My only point was, who cares? It will be released when it is released, regardless of the validity of the picture. Many posts here are taking on this, "If you believe it, it will come," attitude - well, if you don't believe... it will still come just the same, no sooner or later - our belief in a picture isn't relevant at all

Sent from my CyanogenModded Epic
[Epic 4G General] Stoney60:
The margins you're looking at are the unevenly applied screen protector.
[Epic 4G General] rgregg504:
After looking more closely I think you are correct.
[Epic 4G General] aypanthony:
As you wish
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
Obviously it could be fake, but I see his post count as more of a positive than a red flag.

Think about it, what's more likely, some random guy who happens to have an old forum account, but clearly doesn't care a whole lot about everyone hanging on his every update, happens to get a mistake from Sprint, or someone "trusted" also just happening to get it.

If I'm placing a bet on the whoisdaman's, Decad3nce's, or marcusant's of the world just "happening" to get this phone, or the field, I'm taking the field.

Anything is possible, but seems unlikely this guy's master plan for internet attention was sit on a sprint forum account for 2 years, then fake a blurrycam shot.
[Epic 4G General] MikeyLee:
He said in his post that they were at the Sprint store and they replaced the phone. TO my knowledge, they do not carry refurbished phones in the stores. So could he have gotten a brand new phone that Samsung shipped with GB? I do believe some newer Epics shipped with Froyo before there was an official OTA.
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
And I still see it as null - neither positive or negative, completely meaningless until more reports come in

Sent from my CyanogenModded Epic
[Epic 4G General] BubZX:
I just got a phone from the sprint store Saturday. It had to be a refurb cuz there was still some dirt around the camera bezel when I took the back off to put my sd card in
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
Well, sure, it doesn't prove anything, obviously. I'm just saying doubting it because the guy came out of the wood works to make his first posts makes little sense, because, if anything, that's exactly what you should expect.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
This will not start again. You don't get what you want, and no one cares what you want.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Your one of few, I could care less about ICS unless I had a new phone.

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G General] pvtjoker42:
yup.. i'll be perfectly happy with a fully compatible CM7 (with nightlies!) for my epic.. until it's time to get a new phone.
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
But that's not the only reason for doubt, and the reason is irrelevant - people think if they disprove the reason, that they have disproven the doubt. This is flawed logic - even if the reason is wrong, the doubt could still be justified

Sent from my CyanogenModded Epic
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
If you ever want to see an unofficial ics make it to your epic, you best care about gb. Or get a phone that comes with ics.
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
This.

That and the phone still has not come with a fully working modem. Ever.

Bad GPS. Then GPS was fixed in EH17/06. EH17 still gives me random issues with the signal dropping out (or modem rebooting itself, not sure which).

If we can get a halfway decent modem, and some source, we'll see ICS. Too many devs/people here are locked into contracts (myself included).

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If the techs have the software already, then I have a feeling EI22 will show up in tomorrow's Sprint bulletin.

One can only hope.

Today marks the day our phone is officially EOL (End of Life). It was supposed to be end of October, which is over now.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Old news, it was taken off the list since then.
[Epic 4G General] hammerbrain:
Spoke with LonnyH8 and he said they need a few days to think about attempting a dump. Told him about the devs here and hopefully something positive comes from it. Whatever the outcome, interesting twist to the saga....
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
What would possibly be the drawback of providing a system dump?
[Epic 4G General] hammerbrain:
I think he is a little overwhelmed and doesn't have a lot of time to devote to it. He said he would discuss it with his wife and let us know.
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
Maybe he's a little worried about personal info on his wife's phone, etc.
[Epic 4G General] the_details:
Probably the fact that, if it's true, he has something he shouldn't, and he let Sprint know about it. There is a clear line from the Sprint forums to here, so if GB is leaked, they'll know who did it.
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
You're right, I wasn't making one small counter point about that one specific claim, nor did I ever state it could be fake.

I was absolutely making the claim "he only has 3 posts, so it's definitely real, and everyone who still has any doubt is an idiot." :confused:
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
How do you make a system dump anyway?
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
Wrong. I also PMed with Lonny, and the concern he expressed to me is that he needs a working phone (and therefore is worried about the risk entailed with geeking around with the phone) and doesn't have a lot of time to mess around with it.

I told him the chances of perma-bricking his wife's phone are slim, and if he decides to go through with rooting and dumping the ROM, he knows how to find me. In the mean time, it's his decision whether or not to "risk"* rooting and dumping.

* I think most of us are extremely comfortable with the exceedingly low risk, but to a non-geek that's a very daunting task with many unknowns.

P.S. I also warned him that if he does refuse to provide the ROM you trolls* will drag this issue through the mud and call him every name in the book. Somehow I doubt that will mean much though. :( (For the trolls.)

P.P.S. Not referring to everyone as a troll here, read carefully!

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I'm also curious! I think it's a feature built into Odin and/or Heimdall, but not positive.

On a related note, when people reply with "This." What does that meme mean? Is it a reference to the programming reserved word that refers to the class instance in which it appears?
[Epic 4G General] :
Maybe, an incentive will stop his worries ;) lol
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
System Dump guide:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...dV3gLIn4FtHnoiLiw&sig2=lWtTwU7d5Uwj1vJ9iraDXw
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Tell him to root it and run a nandroid. Or even better, dump the kernel with a guide. If he needs any help, you can pm me his gtalk and I can walk him through every step of a gingerbread root as I have done it plenty of times and have experienced every problem that even a non-noob can have.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
After reading the guide, I don't think you could talk me into it. No way would someone who's never rooted their phone do that.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
All you have to do is root and nandroid, it saves kernel and rom, bingo.

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thats actually very simple

Edit: Not saying you cant do simple things :), im just saying it isnt as hard as you think
[Epic 4G General] MikeyLee:
Maybe he should upload a video of the phone booting up and him going into the settings and showing us that way???
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
That is also flawed logic ... you're assuming inherent connections between things that have no inherent connection.

You're the idiot - no offense (lol)

Sent from my CyanogenModded Epic
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I feel this is the best strategy. Also most viable for making sure wife doesn't get angry.
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
First off, I didn't call you an idiot, so I don't know why you had to go there, second of all I'm not assuming anything at all.

Again if, if, IF you postulate that his coming out of no where to make his first posts in 2 years means anything at all, then it makes it more likely to be legit, than it does fake. We have noting but little tiny, clues and red herrings to decide until we know something definitive. It could be wrong, it could mean **** all, but that doesn't mean I can't say what I've said about that one small fact. IMO it makes it more likely to be legit that some random guy that looks to have no skin in the game accidently wound up with this than it is that some guy hatched a plan to park a forum acct for 2 years just in case he wanted to fake a leak someday. It doesn't mean anything more than that.

Any more strawmen you want to set up?
[Epic 4G General] Stoney60:
On the other hand, they don't ship new phones with screen protectors either.
[Epic 4G General] austin420:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLg1k4I9fqk#t=01m10s
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
And they don't put them on crooked at the store. They will remove it and fix it.
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
I hate myself for fanning the flames of this wildly speculative topic, but I just can't resist...

Who says it shipped with the screen protector? When I purchased my Epic I was offered (and stupidly bought) a crappy screen protector that was identical to what it appears he has--"default" Sprint screen protector, default Sprint case.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Why not offer to buy or trade his phone for another Epic? Just throwing that out there.
[Epic 4G General] sephiroth009:
has anyone even recieved one word from the guy since he posted that up?
[Epic 4G General] xopher.hunter:
Yup.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=18963089
[Epic 4G General] MikeyLee:
You know what I think sucks? The fact that we have a kick ass piece of technology called the Epic 4G and we have no official GB release, yet CRICKET, yes CRICKET, has a piece of crap Samsung Vitality that has GB on it! Nice going Sprint and Samsung!
[Epic 4G General] sephiroth009:
more waiting, ive been waiting a while for some big news to drop for the epic. like how we were all excited about getting official source. or a few months back when the feeling 1.3 was right around the corner was still in the air. right now theres no news, nothing new to flash, and the things that are big like cm7 and miui still have some issues that just cant be oversighted.
[Epic 4G General] MikeyLee:
Oh well there goes that LOL j/k!
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
Yes they do. Mine is crooked, it leans to the left. The screen protector that is. The guy put it on at the store too, but at least there were no bubbles. And it hasn't even started lifting after over a year of usage.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
Sorry but this screen does not deserve a protector nor does it need it. It only makes the screen look like crap.
[Epic 4G General] sephiroth009:
ive dropped my phone down the stairs, onto a tile floor, onto the sidewalk, and the street and it has yet to get a scratch in the screen. i think it doesnt need a screen protector.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Disagree. I can't remember the name of the company that makes the screen protector that I use right now, but you can't even tell I have one on. #peaceofmind
[Epic 4G General] NeoGauge:
I've done the drop test, the face first drop test, the fist pound. Showing off to my friends, others and iPhone owners. Not a mark on it. They are like WOW! I tell the iPhone owners to try that and they are like no way, mine will break. I could never own a phone that if simply dropped, I would have to replace it.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
I shattered mine in a flight across a bar. Was about a 10 ft flight. It's good but not perfect. I now have a case, but still no screen protector. Nothing would have changed probability that much except the case's elevation.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
My screen protector hasn't moved but damn I have it really scratched up right now I kind of want it to start peeling so I can take it off lol :p my screen will never be enjoyed this way :(

Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g
[Epic 4G General] Lonny28:
Be patient with us please...

Hi Everyone,

First, big thanks to hammerbrain and AmericanJedi001 for the nice discussion today. To say that we are overwhelmed is putting it a bit mildly. We also are getting quite a kick out of all of you conspiracy theorists out there - crooked screen protector? Seriously? My Wife put that on herself yesterday. And no, I'm not going to take a movie of me going through the settings on her phone. You'll just have to trust that we are normal (mostly), non developer, non hoaxing (at least when it comes to this kind of stuff) kind of people.

Second, we had no idea that this would be such a big deal - When I saw that GB was on her phone I was expecting to come to the Sprint forum to find all kinds of fun excitement that GB was finally coming out for our phones. We were obviously confused when there wasn't anything, and when Jackpotcoyote first called bull and asked for a screenshot to "prove it" I obliged - Mostly because I was looking for verification that we really did have GB on her phone.

Third, we know that many of you are real life developers. We aren't. We have regular day jobs and plenty of higher things on our priority list than this right now. We of course would love to help be a part of getting you all something you really want and need, but I think it's highly likely that 122 is going to show up elsewhere for you before we are able to get it for you all. So, please be patient with us as we try to gain a better understanding of all of this.

Lonny
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
Thanks for the verification and all I can say is do what u want as it isn't a big deal as people make it... it would definitely help if u could throw us a system dump, but ur are not obligated to. Don't let trolls be assholes and give u crappy for not wanting to root or do this on your phone as you said, it is important to have a working phone :)
[Epic 4G General] adelmundo:
Thanks for clearing some things for us. The thing is, we as the developer and enthusiast community have been waiting for months for the latest build of Android. In the end, we become the bastard red-headed step children and ended up getting a new build ONE BUILD BEHIND the current build. With ICS out, and we're still on Froyo, we are now officially one build behind, just as when Gingerbread came out and we were still on Eclair. It's the frustration we have and we don't know sometimes who to blame, be it Sprint or Samsung. Many people, like me, have been using this phone since launch day and after many promises being told by Samsung/Sprint during the Froyo debacle that we would get Froyo a month after. Well that one month became 2 months, then became by Christmas, then became by New Years, then well not until February did we get a semi-working, but removed immediately build from Samsprint. Fast-forward now and since March until October, more unfulfilled hopes of getting official GB, even after the tease of source code being released then removed last month.

I hope you can try to help us and I'm sure the people here can help walk you through the process with as little risk and little time spent by you to do this.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Feel free to ask any questions. Obviously we want you to enjoy your experience. The skepticism is obvious after Epic owners' trials. There's an obvious level of excitement. Anything you have questions on, we're all here to support. Thanks for contributing what you have so far!
[Epic 4G General] TexasLTE:
Thank You kindly for that update .... you do what you feel is best :)
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
And thanks for not contacting Sprint and threatening to leak the update on the internet unless give you an Epic Touch 4g.....

;) :D ;)
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thanks buddy. We all understand that its your phone, your choice. As long as it works, be happy with the knowledge you might have the only customer owned phone with EI22 :)

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Dude, you arent sorry. There is no reason for this. I think you truly believe, and are trying to use reverse psychology to get him to post it. I think that we should have to wait with that kind of attitude.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] sephiroth009:
thats exactly how i feel, i cant be very nice and supportive about this. youd be helping out thousands of people by just making a nandroid backup and sending it to a developer. it would take you 10 minutes at best. a dev would give you a step by step of how to get them a nandroid or system dump if you asked.
[Epic 4G General] Qwallace70129:
Im with you. He has obviously spoken with several ppl in the sprint forums and if he had the slightest inkling of wanting to help....IN THE TIME IT TOOK HIM TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT HERE AND TYPE OUT A 3 PARAGRAPH REPLY.....HE COULD HAVE DONE A BACKUP AND HAD IT UPLOADED. Sorry if im being negative but if ppl across a CONTINENT asked me for 20 minutes of my time to help them with something that took nothing from my quality of life then I would feel HONORED to have helped so many ppl. Just my opinion.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Well, so much for all the goodwill...smh
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Can't figure why devs keep taking off with all this gratitude to go about.
[Epic 4G General] sephiroth009:
The guy won't spend 10-20 minutes to help out thousands of people. I'm just being honest with it. All of us have other things going on in our lives but this should be simple and easy to do. There was even talk of buying him a new epic just to get the phone with EI22 on it.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
He was offered and said he wanted to think about it. Do people really have to act like ingrates?
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Jamice, that's totally uncalled for. Way to welcome a new poster. Why would anyone ever help a group when he gets a greeting like that.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Talk is cheap, you putting up your Epic?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Same here. Although, noob was saying EI22 release really isn't that big of a deal. Just the modem really.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] Shinydude100:
You kiddies need to grow a pair of balls. Learn that no matter how awesome it'd be for Lonny to share EI22 with us, it's his choice no matter how much you pout. Geez. Yeah, it can be frustrating not to have official GB on our epics, but being a drama queen saying that you've waited for months is pathetic. As if you're the only human, we're all on the same boat as you guys. If it was I who had that dump, I seriously make a list of those valuable XDA members who have been nothing less than helpful (you know who you are) and leave you crying brats to rot without EI22.

As for Lonny, thanks man, you didn't have to take the time to explain yourself but you did and many of us appreciate that, I hope you guys get a chance to hop on board the XDA train when you have spare time, it's really a cinch once you have the basics down. Sorry about the negative posters, ignorance is so annoying that I've had enough of it from these posters that never really post on XDA. Lol
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
I was just reading and thinking about how civil everybody was being, and then all of a sudden the Wolves came out.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Lonny, listen to the guys who are on here helping 24/7. Me, ShinyDude, TheRoops, marcusant, we can all help guide you through a process that takes a maximum of 30 minutes, simply based on how fast you wanna do it.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"