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[Samsung Infuse 4G] netnerd:
yeah. if you dont based a phone on specs, isnt all phones the same??

yeah. i'm getting nexus, this galaxy s2 lte dont do me any good when there' no lte in my area! (san fransciso bay area)

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another BS excuses from att.

isnt verizon LTE cover 97% of population? who need to drop back to 3g? haha
[Samsung Infuse 4G] deathpulse:
I still think the Samsung galaxy note is the best... even without Lte.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Reynaldinho111:
+1

And it wouldnt surprise me if they dropped an lte version like they did with the sgs2. We'll see...

Sent from my big ass Samsung Infuse
[Samsung Infuse 4G] gl1669:
+1

Bigger really is better. Can't wait to see a super amoled plus version of it.

Skyrocket looks pretty sweet, of course Denver has no LTE support for At&t. But I'm glad to see a 4.5 inch SGII for At&t. Now that I have the Infuse I'll never go down to a smaller screen.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] MikeyMike01:
None of these (including Galaxy Nexus) can hold a candle to the SGS II.

They all run Android, so they're all stuck in the same fragmentation quagmire anyway.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] carloz800:
Anyone think that we will be grandfathered? for the 30$ unlimited data
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
the plans will stay the same. if you are grandfathered, you will keep your unlimited data. Except that LTE will now be another option aside from 3G and HSPA+ and LTE where available.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
I can tell you first hand that there are areas of Dallas that get no Verizon lte....and when that happens..nada webs for u.

If you have not taken note of the improved 3g on att then you either in one of their areas that just plain sucks. Or you have been hiding under a rock. A year ago in this area top speed was around 500-600 Kbps....to be hitting 3mbps consistant on our 3g phones is pretty awesome IMO....and what I have seen on lte here is just crazy

Mikey...I will most likely agree with you in the end...but I gotta try it haha!!!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] the2rrell:
i dont understand the statement. why is the sgsII so special to you??
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crawlgsx:
I don't understand how anyone can see the S2 LTE and still be interested in the Nexus. The single only thing the Nexus has on the S2 LTE is the res, BUT as pointed out, it's pentile and really a pretty poor screen (imo). Samsung Super AMOLED+ is pretty much the most gorgeous screen on a smartphone. Every other spec the S2 LTE has over it, not to mention I will put money on that we get the S2 LTE a minimum of 1-2 months before we see the Nexus on AT&T, and thats probably being too optimistic.

I personally am stuck on the decision because I would rather buy a phone that has ICS to start with and not have do deal with the wait and see game (or ports/roms with missing/corrupt/unstable features) but if I buy any of these phones it is most definitely going to be the S2 LTE over the Nexus even with that said.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] slapshot30:
He has a SGSII and left the Infuse so he feels the need to come back here every so often and explain to us how his new phone is the greatest thing ever and how our Infuses and apparently phones that haven't even come out yet all suck. How will the Galaxy Nexus be just as fragmented, mikeymike? Its a nexus phone so it will get updates before all other devices due to it being less proprietary. Also the version of touchwiz will be less bulky and intertwined to samsungs updates will also be a lot more frequent.

Sent from my Samsung Infuse
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crawlgsx:
Care to explain how your S2 is better than the S2 Skyrocket, which out specs it in literally every single way?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
The SkyRocket has SnapDragon. which in processor terms, means battery life will most likely be crap, big screen, LTE, and a SnapDragon. the SGSII has a Exynos which is basically really really good. which is my i believe Mikester likes it more.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] the2rrell:
so in what ways does it crush the nexus prime.....it does not share the same snapdragon processor.

im not saying anyone is wrong, but i would like to know why those claims were made<<
[Samsung Infuse 4G] airflood:
I've just activated my infuse since last week and I got a couple of emails and sms asking me to change my unlimited data to 4G. I hope all those unlimited get grandfathered too...
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
i thought we were talking of the SGSII in which case Exynos>SnapDragon. IN EVERYTHING.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crispy1805:
Everyone over in the SGSII forums are going crazy and defending their phone and why it (while bashing the Skyrocket) is better just like we did when the SGSII was released a month or so ago. In the end, it comes down to everyday use.

My Infuse has been more reliable and better than my Captivate ever was. And it had a huge development support community backing it. While development is important, it isn't everything. While some of the devs that left here are great and while the SGS2 is a great phone, there is no need to bash the Infuse because they jumped ship. At the end of the day, the Infuse is a great phone for day to day use overall. The SGS2 individuals feel like they have to justify their phone and purchase just like we did. In the end, both are stable phones --- just depending on your needs and wants.

We will see if the Skyrocket is as well. I have a hunch that it will be and might actually beat out the SGS2. There maybe some concern over the battery life , but AT&T reps said that they were tinkering with that and made some radio improvements over the Verizon LTE phones. They also said the LTE phones would be thinner than the 3G+ ones. The processor has yet to be confirmed, we will know in less than a week.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] kornklown69:
Ya its pretty funny over at the sgsII forums good ol Entropy is hating hard on the skyrocket i cant wait dor it to come out i also have a hunch itll be pretty sweet
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
Not entirely true...they both have strong points. Personally the snapdragons have always handled multitasking better for me and been more suitable for overclocking and more stable (which we did see in testing) battery life was no worse than the sgs2. Out of the box it is noticeably slower but hopefully SOMEONE worthwhile will pick one up and play. I plan on doing quite a bit with it but I am a total newb at the Dev stuff.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
The true sgs2 had the Samsung exynos which out benchmarks the snapdragon in almost every thing but floating point. It has dual mali gpus.

The skyrocket has snapdragon which at higher clocks gets less performance.

The nexus while it has a great screen has an omap4 that uses the same single core gpu as the galaxy s/infuse same/similar CPU as the thrill.

Everyone will have there preference, is size important? How big is to big? how important is resolution? Do I need Ics?? What about multimedia support?

Samsung roms have a toon of multimedia support that you won't find in aosp. I never got the appeal of the nexus s to anyone that wasn't a developer.

My opinion if I were in the market for a phone then it would be no contest galaxy s2 with the exynos processor. It's a comfortable size and best performer. But I could see the appeal of the nexus screen and ics. I wouldn't touch the skyrocket. I mean I like my infuse but wish it were a tad bit smaller, I don't see anything about these snapdragon gs2 phones worth the upgrade, why by a faster phone with the same annoyances? It still is a development nightmare and it's still to big. Is there anything my infuse isn't doing for me now?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] netnerd:
after using infuse for awhile, 4.5 screen still seem to be too small.

that's why I'm getting nexus with 4.65 and 1280x720 resolutions.

who cares that it' pentell screen, it still 1280x720 which displays alot more stuffs on screen.

galaxy nexus should be about the same size as infuse since it has no physical buttons. it can use those spaces for screen.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] kornklown69:
Im excited about the nfc support

Edit: most likely rumor/ confusion with HD model but some sites are listing nfc
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Kevinr678:
I was saying why would you base it on screen size, haha.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] netnerd:
if you can have it bigger, why not.

dont you want to be bigger? haha
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Maschil:
im so with you dude.... i would have prefered the galaxy s2 but 4.5 kept me at the infuse 4g i got it last week. and so for im loving it.... havent used an android since the droid x and i can just say that the infuse 4g keeps me prefering froyo over ios 5.... just more freedom ahh refreshing i tell you. Untill a phones comes out with 4.5 inch screen or plus (yes i know about the galaxy nexus) i wont be budging.... maybe on the Nexus but im so happy with the infuse right now
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Kevinr678:
Well bigger is great with screens, but I guess I just look more toward the power side of the phone.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
Nah my gf says it's uncomfortable. Are we still talking about phones? Hehe
[Samsung Infuse 4G] the2rrell:
whomp whomp whomp.......lol

the infuse is actually a lil on the small side for me......only the Galazy tab 10.1 i have is like Damn thats big.

i can use the infues one handed to text and surf no problem.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] krantiredeyes:
I bought my Infuse on day 1 and I have zero complaints till today. Its a superb phone... Fast, incredible display, great camera. Design wise, Personally, I like the infuse's sharp corners more than than SGS2 's less sharp corners.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] iStatiK:
Digging the SkyRocket. Ill wait til January when i can get one for an upgrade price and development has started :D
[Samsung Infuse 4G] kornklown69:
How do you request threads so i can request xda put up skyrocket threads
[Samsung Infuse 4G] RUNNERX:
Two sweet phones, but I will wait till they are true ICS phones that are minus the buttons below the screen. Played with the ICS launcher and it felt really redundant with 7 buttons down there.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] terra-starr:
True ICS will not show the soft buttons on devices with hard buttons.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Reynaldinho111:
By the begining of next year we'll have some awesome ics lte phones, not much point in getting anything right now.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Dani897:
Waiting on the next generation of arm chips from nvidea Samsung and ti. I also here amd will make a processor for mobile possibly x86 based and on 28nm architecture. It won't be truly worthwhile to upgrade for me til I can replace my desktop. If I upgrade before My contact is up it Will be out of boredom. I know quad chores are coming and will have major enhancements other than more cores.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] kornklown69:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1319484

Heres the rogers version if interested guy unboxed his

Edit: and yes its qualcomm still doesnt change my mind bout it though
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
This is where I am spoiled...5 lines all with upgrades available over the next two years :p
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Longcat14:
Account I'm on has 7 available lines to add, with no matter of data plans, since I just pop the SIM into a dumbphone and take off the data.... $10 for basically a new phone. xD
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
Ill be keeping my infuse for awhile. As Lte is only in a few major cities right now and now where I live (twin cities suburbs) and prob won't be around till mid or late next year :(

MI~INFUSED~UI
[Samsung Infuse 4G] :
What phone is that on? Since I thought these 2 phones are the first Lte phones for att?

MI~INFUSED~UI
[Samsung Infuse 4G] kornklown69:
Just pre-ordered my skyrocket at best buy
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
me 2

as for thos pics..plese show verification that is on a phone... tablet maybe...but I have been reading/told the phones are not capable of those speeds.

On the test unit I had in hand last month we did see peak 22ish mb dl on the skyrocket
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crawlgsx:
Anyone know how much the skyrocket is non-contract? I'm eligible later this month but a.) I dont want to wait, and b.) I'll use my upgrade for a new ICS phone early next year I'm sure anyway.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] the2rrell:
when i called they told me they did not know the Non Contract price.....but it should be around 450 - 500 thats from the manager in the store.

i hope thats right. cuz i am also saving my upgrade for the Galaxy note when it hits or the next great phone by early or mid next year.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] byuboy87:
while i am impressed by the skyrocket & cant help thinkin its what tge infuse should have been, i dont think its worth the upgrade FROM an infuse if you wont have LTE coverage... we all laughed at apples presentation of the iphone4s, mocking the fact that its the same exact phone, but with a faster dual core processor, better camera, and updated software, & UNLESS ur gonna benefit from LTE, thats basically the case moving from infuse to skyrocket, or so it seems...

from Sams inFuse... inFused GB
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crawlgsx:
I didn't laugh, but I got jumped all over for it. Personally I think the 4s is a nice jump from the 4, but I have no interest in that tiny screen. :D

There is a big difference between the Infuse and Skyrocket. If the fact that it looks similar and has the same size screen makes them the same than man we have a lot of the same phones with different names.

It's not leaps and bounds better, and in general use it probably won't feel any faster, but it is a better phone all around and hopefully will see better Dev support (though I'm not sure if it is going to be too different than the SII to share support?)
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Kevinr678:
The new phones look and sound great, but to be honest, I didn't want an S2, and the inclusion of an LTE radio is ridiculous. This is exactly what Apple did with the iPhone 3G. Hey, Let's release the exact same phone, but instead of 2G let's make it 3G! I mean, everyone has their own opinions and what they think is worth it, but I think I'll wait at least until Q2 of next year to even consider a new phone.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crawlgsx:
You do realize there are other differences other than LTE?

1.5ghz dual vs 1.2ghz dual, 1850mah vs 1650mah, 4.3" vs 4.5"

And to say the inclusion of LTE is ridiculous is ridiculous itself. There IS AT&T LTE in the US and the people in those cities just might want a NICE LTE phone don't ya think? They can't exactly just wait until every city has it to release some LTE Phones. Is it a worthy upgrade? Definitely not to some, definitely to others, open to opinion but I think this phone definitely has a market.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Kevinr678:
Oh, no, don't get me wrong, it does have market. I live near Atlanta, so I have 4G. I see the signs everyday, whether coming or going to work or just driving around. I would love a 4G phone, and if I had something like an LG Optimus, I'd upgrade in a heartbeat.The issue at hand is, this phone is essentially just re-release what it should of been from day one. Hence the iPhone reference.

EDIT: And I'm not saying the inclusion of 4G is ridiculous in the way you interpreted it. I'm saying to re-release the phone with 4G when it was already out when the S2 was released is outrageous.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crawlgsx:
Ahh I see, yeah they should've just released one. I don't even have 4g in my state, let alone LTE. It will be years before we see LTE probably in 1 city up here :-D. Sprint and Verizon also do not have 4g of any kind in Maine. US Cellular is the first company to bring 4g to us, how sad is that?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Kevinr678:
That is pretty sad, haha. I actually work at an at&t store, and I looked at the layout for 4G for the next year, and it was something like by the end of 2012 only 12 cities total would have 4G or something miniscule like that.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
I think that may read 12 more...they are at 5 now...with a handful planned by eoy this year...though most at&t reps have told me similar and not to expect lte phones until next year. But alas..we have 2 releasing in a few days

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=2943
[Samsung Infuse 4G] kornklown69:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=9220

Hands on

http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/samsung/galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-unboxing-hands-on-video/

Unboxing
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
I got confirmation tonight...US will see the note

One of the Samsung guys is testing one in DFW now

oh, here are the pics I grabbed back on 10-6 ;)

http://androidforums.com/samsung-celox/439766-promised-pics-screens.html#post3413498
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Reynaldinho111:
Now im starting to get the tingles :p i want that beast!!

Sent from my big ass Samsung Infuse
[Samsung Infuse 4G] whodat006:
Not sure I'm ready to give up my unlimited plan for a lte phone plan ..
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crawlgsx:
Who said you have to give up your unlimited data?
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Longcat14:
AT&T said that you don't need to give up your current plan for LTE.

Sent from my phone. :3
[Samsung Infuse 4G] the2rrell:
Does anyone have a target Date.......is it 4 months 6 months.

FOR THE NOTE I MEAN
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Tomdg07:
testing on at&t???
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crispy1805:
Here is a recent Unboxing of the Skyrocket:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Skyrocket-hands-on_id23474
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
Yes...for those that are not familiar...I have a friend at Sammy that gets pre release test phones and lets me play/benchmark them. He has been dead on with release dates months in advance (but off on specs and programs etc)

I will try and get a more firm answer..but I beloved he said December for the note.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] the2rrell:
That would be dumd of AT&T to drop the note this soon. Right after the skyrocket AND the Nexus.

Not saying ur wrong. But its about money and marketing that's to many flagship type devices back to back.

But who knows
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crawlgsx:
The Samsung Nexus is currently only slated for Verizon with a possibilities of others in the future but we have gotten 0 confirmation or guarantee's for the others.

Secondly the Skyrocket and Note are 2 VERY different "phones" with very different market audiences. The Skyrocket is nothing more than a slightly upgraded S2 and the addition of LTE. It has a very small market. Sure the Note would steal a small % of customers who MAY have purhcased a Skyrocket because a Note wouldn't exist, but there are far more customers who will switch from EVERY other phone to have a Note. No one (minimal) is switching from a current model (S2 or the likes) to get Skyrocket, as the upgrade is minimal (some features worse) and LTE being a very,very limited audience.

It would only make since for Samsung to release the Note for the holidays.

That said I am likely one of the customers that will purchase a Skyrocket if the Note isn't coming soon :p
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
Exactly..that and the Nexus is not expected to hit other carriers until Q1 (January-March)

I will update you guys if I hear anything else. I leave for my wedding Monday and will be gone for 3 weeks..so possibly nothing new until I get back around thanksgiving.

I have no interest in the Note so I have already made the decision that I will try the skyrocket ...the main draw being that LTE is strong here in dallas .

if it is uber fail then I will go with an sg s2
[Samsung Infuse 4G] the2rrell:
well it could be the fact that i dont believe the Verizon roomers AT ALL. i think the nexus will arrive BEFORE the note :)

but i am getting the skyrocket this weekend. and if the note hits for December i may try and get that as well. as it IS one of those got to have phones for me. i still hold firm that its to many devices back to back. sgsII, Skyrocket, Nexus(maybe) then the note.

its good have options i guess
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
Why they did it I have no idea. But yes...I knew back in August that Sammy was releasing over 8 new devices back to back (including windows phones and tabs)

The nexus on Verizon only rumor is exactly that..a rumor. All carries will have an opportunity to carry it. No one knows when. I have never been impressed with any of the Nexus phones...including the prime.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] netnerd:
why? sheep will buy anything! if you want iphone lte, try iphone7.

iphone5 with 3.8 screen. iphone6 with 4.0 screen.

remember the 1st iphone 2G edge? "we didnt put 3G in cus it makes the phone bigger".

i guess no one want iphone LTE cus it makes the phone bigger! haha
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Ryanscool:
Well on Att they could have it LTE, because there devices will still be thin. They are just too lazy too change too much, and they know they could probably introduce their new iPhone with Edge Speeds and all those sheep will still follow.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Reynaldinho111:
Lol i was definitely being facetious :p

Sent from my big ass Samsung Infuse
[Samsung Infuse 4G] DanMc85:
the skyrocket is a nice phone... it might be worth the switch from the infuse. I was playing around with it today.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] kornklown69:
Ill have mine tomorrow
[Samsung Infuse 4G] DANIEL133337:
First thing I do tomorrow.... Box up my Infuse and trade it in for the Skyrocket! :D
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
This pretty much sums up my "why"

These were done while driving in to work from best buy. I have her to hit an area of Dallas that doesn't have coverage. I know it will happen tho

Oh...GPS...literally instant lock, accurate to 9 ft
[Samsung Infuse 4G] Longcat14:
Not surprised that GPS was an instant lock, it has the same GPS as the SGS II, which is a complete beast.

I will be getting one of the two phones, just need to sell my iPod to get it. ^^
[Samsung Infuse 4G] netnerd:
i dont know about you, but i'm excited about the future! the future is LTE!

i dont have LTE in san francisco bayarea, hopefully we get it by end of 2011?

i mean the bayarea is where google and apple live. haha
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crispy1805:
1. I was quite surprised about the lack of HSPA+ in other areas. I live in the middle of no where and I have it.

2. In a year from now, none of this bickering will matter. There will be new phones that are faster and more powerful, and people will be bickering over those and which ones are better then.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] slapshot30:
True... and the rate at which new phones coming out will be even quicker. Ifyou don't have LTE in your area (and you most likely won't for a while if you don't have it already), then why get the Skyrocket? Other than the LTE, it just has a bigger screen and worse battery life than the SGSII already out. Why not wait for a phone that comes with ICS right out of the box? I think that is the ultimate thing to wait for right now, a phone with superior specs and native ICS.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] netnerd:
didnt att said there will be 15 market with LTE by end of 2011?

i hoping san francisco bayarea is 1 of them!
[Samsung Infuse 4G] The_Zodiac:
Funny but I've had a similar experience to yours. Had far more problems with my captivate then my infuse. Even though the community support for the captivate was much larger
[Samsung Infuse 4G] 00mred00:
LOL...the battery life assumptions crack me up.
[Samsung Infuse 4G] crispy1805:
It's quite funny actually. I liked my captivate too :). The Infuse is just much better overall. I found myself obsessing more over the Captive's dev community because of its flaws. Not so much here.