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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ferrocene:
This whole thread/discussion in general is fascinating from a psychological point of view. Books have been written on the subject of "grass is greener" syndrome, the negatives associated with too much choice, etc.

Malcolm Gladwell wrote an essay about how people are more unhappy with 10 types of pasta sauce vs 2 types of pasta sauce. The reason? Even though more choice means a better fit for you specifically, the 9 choices you didn't pick means there is a higher percentage chance that you chose the wrong one.

Humans are weird.

Or in the words of Louis CK, Everything's amazing and no one's happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Racer447:
+1

I just switched back to AT&T after a three months of torture with the 4G Verizon Samsung Droid Charge.

"features" I noticed:

- overall crappy battery life, but if you were "lucky" enough to be in a 4g area, your battery would literally drop 10% per hour with light usage.

- your 4g or 3g signal would randomly disappear and reappear 5-10 minutes later for no apparent reason, leaving you without any data during that time.

..........and YES I did work with tech support. I had the phone and sim card replaced twice....all three phone/sim combos with identical results.

moral: be careful what you wish for when it comes to 4g

I've had my I777 for 2 weeks now and not a single data drop, and much better battery life.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
You guys are freaking out too much
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ArcticWolf91:
Wow, this really sucks for all you guys who bought the GS2. They really shouldn't be pulling this kind of **** on their customers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] propsizzle:
sold.

that's twice as fast as my home internet real-world speeds. add in that i'm grandfathered with unlimited, i'll gladly carry around an extra battery to blaze like that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] no6969el:
This will not have the newer CPU in it. It will be the same as Tmobiles except i'm sure tmobiles data will for the majority will be faster.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] PolishDude:
not sure how this phone is superior, LTE for the 8 markets? That isnt that big of a selling point unless you happen to live in that market. Every review i have read says the 1.5 snapdragon is slower than the 1.2 chip on the galaxy s2s, read comparisons between the sprint/att versus the tmobile which has the snapdragon....the screen is already huge, i have the sprint version of the galaxy s2 and although the screen is nice, 4.3 is just fine. Too bad i have to return the phone because the pos sprint service...Id still get the original galaxy s2 over the skyrocket...wow what a name...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tsolin01:
Can people seriously see a difference in real world performance from the different processors (T-mobile vs AT&T)? I don't plan to play any graphic extensive games on this phone and I don't see any difference between normal 1200 speed and overclocking to 1600...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] captivatingtab:
One of my friends has the Tmo GSII and stock vs stock there was pretty much no difference in real world usage. Now using Quadrant and Nenamark was a different story, my I777 scored higher on both.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jjesusfreak01:
I get faux 4G just about everywhere I go (live in Raleigh NC), 3000/1000 (right now sitting on my couch), which is just about as fast as my wireless at home.

HSPA+ should be plenty fast for most people, and as I mentioned above, it covers a large part of the triangle.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ozone777:
Just called Amazon to get a return on my SGS2.

Will get this one next week (if released on time).

I have had buyer's remorse ever since I found out Sprint's SGS2 had a faster proc. and larger display...just didn't seem fair...but typical for AT&T.

This will make it all better now...yes, all better. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] captivatingtab:
A higher clock speed doesn't necessarily mean a faster processor ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tsolin01:
That's what I was thinking as well. I don't care about benchmarks, I only really care about real world performance. The only real downside I see to the new Skyrocket is the possibility of not as much dev support.

Even though LTE isn't widespread yet, I would still like the possibility to have it and since the phone is compatible with HSPA+, it'll be fine either way.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Shammyh:
As far as LTE goes...

I usually get 1-2 mbit down during the day, and maybe 5-6 mbit at really late night. Why would I want LTE if AT&T can't even push close to the max speed of my HSPA device? (And before you all start complaining, I've tested in LoS of an AT&T base station, and even then, at busier times, there still isn't capacity.

And, AFAIK, LTE is still data-carrying only. Meaning that voice calls still have to go over the HSPA+ network (which is still ****ty in the major Boston suburb I live in). That means lots and lots of LTE/HSPA switching being done by the modem. And that means big battery drain.

There is no doubt LTE will eventually replace GSM/CDMA/WCDMA around the world (and I'm looking forward to those 700 MHz bands in the US too)... however, I think waiting another generation or two before jumping on board is a good idea. Especially until they get the next die-shrink/generation of LTE modems into phones.

Also, it's worth mentioning... Samsung puts their in-house chips in only their flagship phones. Wonder why even the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have an Exynos SoC? And why it's "official" specs are similar or lower than the Galaxy S2? Well, this new LTE phone most likely won't have an Exynos either. I'll take my dual-core 1.2 GHz Exynos over any of those fancy new 1.5+ GHz TI/Qualcomm chips any day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] captivatingtab:
and the Sprint Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch has the same processor that the AT&T GSII has.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] YozhikVT:
Was using an iPhone, got the SGS2 (AT&T). Will never go back to an iPhone and LTE is a really weak selling point to switch to the "rocket".
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
My first reaction was, "yay I'm still within 30 days!" But upon further consideration with all known info, I'll stick with my GSII for now. I wont be needing LTE anytime soon and that's just one more possibility of somehow losing my grandfathered unlimited plan.

Glad to see that dev support doesn't look to drop off here also.

But the reality is I couldn't love my phone any more, it really is the perfect device for me at a cost:benefits ratio...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] seh6183:
Wow you are so uneducated that its digustingly pathetic.

Have you ever considered that the bigger screen in fact does NOT look better? Its blurrier under all circumstances.

Also the faster processor speed? LOL Clock specs mean nothing. The 1.2 exynos chip has trumped the 1.5 in all tests that have been run. Clock speed means nothing. The architecture is what's important.

But boo hoo because att ripped you off right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BarryH_GEG:
What's everyone so excited about? The Skyrocket (awful name) is the same as the Celox/Hercules/TSGS2 with an LTE radio. It's not the one with the HD screen, it's the same 4.5" SAMOLED+ that was first released on the Infuse. It'll have a Qualcomm chip and will perform similarly to the Hercules/TSGS2 which isn't saying much. So, unless you're dying to have LTE which exists in a whopping half dozen markets and/or like the idea of the larger screen this phone doesn't seem like a big deal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] seh6183:
This plus 350.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
I just returned my SGS2 to Best Buy Full refund.

I had 2 days before my 30days was up. So I decided to wait to see how the LTE version... because I can always get another "OG" SGS2 (plus my display had a mean old black line going horizontal right in the middle of the screen)

I live in LA, there is No LTE, but I am sure it'll be one of the city by mid-2012. However I do travel to Chicago and Dallas-FW, and they are in the LTE market. That will be cool.

To me the processor is not a big deal what so ever. We don't live and certainly MY LIFE doesn't revolve around benchmarks.

Lastly, I welcome the 4.5" screen. I might be going blind... lol j/k
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sweetboy02125:
Like I said earlier, just exchanged a new ATT S2 2 day ago at Bestbuy only $50 due to Bestbuy sale mistake. If I'll go to LTE, i'll pay for $200 more.

i'll travel international with my SG2 next month. If Im willing to pay $200 more, will my phone can be unlock to use oversee like my ATT S2 now? who knows

Yes, i live in 4G area. LTE is super fast (tested with verizon 4G LTE, and impressed)

Well, 80% i'll stick with my $50 ATT S2, 20% remains will be watching. Hahahah
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BarryH_GEG:
You really need to read the reviews and the TSGS2 forum. There's stuttering and lagginess in every day use. The Qualcomm chip is no prize.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
and as I have said... if the Skyrocket end up being bad (laggy in your case) I have the option of always going back to the OG SGS2. My options are completely open at this point.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Simba501:
Not really. I have a choice. Still within 30 days, much like everyone else.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] RockRatt:
I am not planning in switching either since the qualcomm chip doesn't match up as good but just FYI LA CALIFORNIA will have Lte by the end of this year according to ATT.

Plus if you look in the other sgs2 forums they are not so blessed with their dev support as much as we are with the att variant. Even though the last time I read at least the sprint version was having some issues compared to us att versions and about the only thing different is their screen size and different radios for their network. Even little things can slow down development. We have a VERY CLOSE sister in the i9100 variant that has made ours work so well from day 1.

I look forward to Lte but I can wait for the rollout to mature a bit first. Maybe next year with the sgs3 :) I can upgrade every 12 months in my plan so I am not too worried about it. Let the grapes ripen into some nice wine rather that whine.

Sent From My KICKASS CM7 AT&T SGS2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Um, clueless much? Sprint's version has the exact same CPU we do. If you mean T-Mobile's - Everything (subjective user testing and benchmarks) says that the Snapdragon performs extremely poorly for its clock speed - while Samsung CPUs usually do very well clock-for-clock.

What kind of ****? Keep in mind they refused to sell the GS2 in all of their LTE markets. If you don't live in an LTE market, you may as well call this the "****rocket" - all of the disadvantages of LTE (thick phone, poor battery life - just ask any Verizon user), none of the advantages.

You should know by now that you shouldn't expect AT&T to ever properly support any Android phone. #1 rule (and I learned this the hard way with the Infuse) - If you want updates, never buy an AT&T branded phone unless it's proven to have MAJOR commonality with an international unit. The most likely order of ICS deployments you'll see is:

I9100 (and I777 ports with 95%+ functionality within 2-3 weeks)

*months of nothing*

****rocket

*not too long*

I777 official

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL. Take a look at the T989 forums. 2-3 weeks on the market and still no overclock. Hell, they don't even have any custom kernels at all. (Initramfs repacks do not count.) The ****rocket has almost identical hardware.

The only reason it took a week for us to get overclock on our phones was because I hate overclocking and it took me that long to give in and apply the patch... I could've done it on day 1 if I'd wanted to. It was all there thanks to the I9100, ripe for the picking.

Also remember that, as stated before, the Snapdragon performs far worse than the Exynos at equivalent clock speed - it NEEDS that 1.5 GHz to make up for its deficiencies. Since it's cranked that much faster - it likely has less headroom on average before hitting thermal limitations.

Last but not least - this IS AT&T we're talking about. 90% of people here won't see LTE until they're due for their next upgrade. Hell, I'll be lucky to see HSPA+ by the time my 2013 upgrade eligibility hits, if UMTS deployment to my area is any indication.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
I can't jump if I want. But reading the dev responses, I'm glad to stay here.

Just so others know ... you do not get another 30 days if you get a new phone. You get to swap for ONE phone within 30 days of renewing your contract. So if you take back the OG GS II to try the skyrocket you do NOT get 30 days to decide. You will need an exception to switch back if you want, but still only within 30 days of your contract renewal. You can take the phone back, cancel your upgrade, and start all over, but you still only have the original 30 days.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
This might be true with AT&T direct outlet/stores? I talked to Best Buy (for what its worth), they reverted my eligibility to upgrade like nothing has happened.. and they said that if I do get the Skyrocket from Best Buy I would get another 30 days to try it under the Best Buy's Policy.

As a matter a fact they even offered me to try out the i4s for another 30days.

I think in California it's illegal to force someone to keep an unwanted purchase. Someone that knows this better might want to chime in on this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dross333:
The 30 days starts from activation date. I called them to inquire and basically you would have to return the phone to them and then get a new one from an at&t store. They also said if I return the phone I could NEVER buy from the amazon wireless site again because of the way the site works. Might be BS but I really dont care about that part. I'm still undecided but might hold onto my GS2. Phone is great and battery life is kick ass with a mod build. To switch and then start over, then with the possibility to be disappointed and then switch back is just way too much hassle for a phone. For occasional music (pandora) and some you tube videos, I think LTE is overkill right now.

Just my 2 cents.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
Again... they never said it was the Snapdragon, it's probably more likely that it's the new Exynos...

Seems like you really hate the Skyrocket. 0.o
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nicktuso:
"Throttling"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dayv:
Every report out says it has a Qualcomm processor and radio. It is unlikely to have the exynos processor if it does indeed have a Qualcomm radio.

Just google the skyrocket - almost every one mentions either Qualcomm or scorpion (scorpion is Qualcomm) processor
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tsolin01:
Lots of hate here for the skyrocket lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Earthdog:
I went in to the store and asked the Manager to make a special exception for me to return mine at 34 days. Once I explained it would be trouble for them and me to return the SG2 and reactivate my Atrix and then activate a new Rocket Sunday. So she agreed to hold me a Rocket and extend my return window.

Being nice went a long way for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
links?

I haven't seen a single one?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] defnow:
techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/att-samsung-galaxy-s2-skyrocket-specs-features-price.html

Rumor......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pinoymutt:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_lte-4124.php

For starters.

Actually almost every single tech blog and article I have read today EXCEPT one pointed to the Qualcomm.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thejanitor86:
almost every link that has been posted in this forum has said its the qualcomm processor. if you need the links, you should read this thread from the beginning.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] karth500:
Man the levels of cluelesness on display here is pretty astounding. For one thing all those complaining that AT&T shafted us by releasing this a month later, have you guys ever heard of Moore's law? The international sgs2 had already been out for a good 6 months before at&t released the i777. Of course newer phones and designs are going to come out. Why should AT&T wait to release the latest and greatest in hardware just so a bunch of you whiners could feel good about your purchases.

Having said all that, I dont think this phone is worth the upgrade -

1) poorer processor. Again as has been pointed out repeatedly on this thread, the dual core cortex a9 based exynos at 1.2 ghz outperforms the 1.5 ghz qualcomm chip on the T-Mobile version both in benchmarks and real world performance. And with worse battery life despite the larger 1850 mah battery. Add LTE to this mix and you are looking at pretty terrible battery life.

2) the larger screen without the resolution bump will make for a poorer overall screen. Also a personal preference on the screen size, I think the newer screens are getting ridiculous. I feel the 4.27 in screen is large enough. And my hands are plenty large.

I live in an area that is getting LTE soon and I am not even remotely tempted to switch. The only thing I like a little better is the gpu is a little nicer compared to the malis on our phones, but I doubt you'll see any difference apart from synthetic benchmarks. Not to mention the restocking fee and the extra 120 (yes I got my phone for 130) I would have to pay and this simply isn't an upgrade that would justify it. Added bonus is that it seems the devs seem to concur and are sticking around.

Maybe if this had truly been a new phone architecture from Samsung, I might have been tempted to switch, but this phone is basically a gimmick to lure the label chasers like the ones on this thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Caliesv:
I don't trust Samsung with their "first" tries. The cappy was crapy. (Unless loaded w a rom) and this is their first Lte phone....I think ill pass till their second.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tylerdurdin:
Completely with you man.... This dont seem like an upgrade AT ALL. This is the Infuse released with a crappy dual core system. This fish aint biting. Very happy with the S2. Staying put without a single regret.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vl221:
Did anyone purchase from Amazon?

How did the return process go?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Cozmo1:
On the surface, it's very tempting, but I for one will not switch to the Skyrocket. The processor is 99% to being a Snapdragon. The Exynos is a much better cpu than it and that alone still makes it a better phone, imo.

The Skyrocket resolution:

720 x 1280 pixels, 4.65 inches (~316 ppi pixel density)

Is better than the SGSII:

480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density)

However, I'm not as young as I used to be and the thought of needing to squint to look at my screen doesn't appeal to me too much ;)

The battery is 200mah bigger, but it will need it. Both of these don't come close to making me want to switch over. Plus, I get incredible battery life on my SGSII as it is.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nkd:
where did you get that info on the resolution? Link? everwhere I have read it is the same resolution as the 4.3 inch sgs2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Cozmo1:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_hd_lte-4198.php
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] silver91342:
I thinks its:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_lte-4124.php

The At&t likely version won't be HD as they will have the Galaxy Nexus for that, I think this is just a early jump into LTE nothing more.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] DevilDogAK:
I just checked and I purchased my sgs2 on october 7th. 30 day window gives me until november 6th, which is a sunday and my att store is closed on sunday. I may ask if I can restock and get the skyrocket.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sweetboy02125:
Yes you can, just stop by other ATT stores unless you are living in the middle of the forest :-p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
That link also says 4.65" screen ... definately not the Skyrocket.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CZ Eddie:
Unfortunately, that's not the phone being released on the 6th.

Nor has it been announced for AT&T at this point. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] propsizzle:
Where are you? And did you get that in writing? That sounds like a sweet deal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CZ Eddie:
Assuming this has the same processor & other identical hardware as the T-Mobile Epic Touch like we all assume it will, how will that affect ROM's made for the T-Mobile. Will we be able to use those on the Skyrocket?

I know nothing about ROM development. Though I'd like to learn more about it someday when I have spare time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tsolin01:
Until they actually release specs or the phone itself, no one really knows what the processor will be. It's all speculation at this point. If it ends up being a Exynos, then it's probably worth switching.

And even if the phone ends up being the same as the T-mobile version, it's not going to be as horrible as people make it out to be. Is it worth the extra money and trouble to switch? probably not but it might be if you want LTE and it's worth it to you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vl221:
It will also cost $250 vs $150 for SG2 through Amazon..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Cozmo1:
Yikes! You guys are right. I was looking at the wrong one (so stupid of me not to notice :(). Well, at least the squinting wouldn't be an issue. Still not switching :)
[Xperia Arc General] joaonds:
Please, I need help.

I Deleted by mistake, the native power control my phone, where can I get again the same application, native android?

Power Control Plus (on Market) doesn working with GPS (ON/OFF).

Thanks.
[Xperia Arc General] AmitPeri:
I suggest https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jim2&feature=search_result

You can put it in the notification bar as well
[Xperia Arc General] joaonds:
Thanks, i install Power Widget, full version.

He allows GPS on/off.

thks !
[Galaxy S II General] ronj1986:
http://m.bgr.com/2011/10/31/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-lte-skyrocket-landing-on-att-november-6th-for-250/
[Galaxy S II General] p51d007:
Noticed this on another site this morning.

I have a 5" streak, and who knows if/when the Samsung Note will hit the states.

Might have to give this one a look. The 4.3" screen looked too small to me, the extra .2" probably won't make much difference, but I'll take another look at it.
[Galaxy S II General] ronj1986:
I had the Streak too. I want the Note, but its too much for me right now. My Dad is going to get it though....Can't wait to play with his
[Galaxy S II General] smartbot:
I already have a SGS II (unlocked UK model) on AT&T's network. So I don't see much point in upgrading to this phone (especially since AT&T's LTE network is still in its infancy). For my next phone I want at least a "retina" type display with LTE... Maybe a SGS III?
[Galaxy S II General] gamemastery4k:
galaxy s2 HD has retina display, however it haven't mention anything release about the HD version yet. Damn it i want the HD version not the regular version, so does anyone know if it plan to release the HD version anytime soon or it is going to wait for ics or galaxy nexus to release first
[Galaxy S II General] rockky:
Guys ...clove has their Note in stock Thurs....as does Expansys...by the end of the week.

I think its gonna be a while before carriers get it. Percieved as too risky because of the size.

Novelty item....
[Galaxy S II General] Spartoi:
The Note is way too big to be used as a phone.

6:40 mark

As for this phone, it probably uses the Qualcomm chip so no thanks.
[Galaxy S II General] rockky:
To each...........his own.
[Galaxy S II General] Jacky Mo:
look forward to galaxy s2 HD
[Galaxy S II General] gamemastery4k:
it could be a while