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[Windows Phone 7 General] drokkon:
Oh, and to the OP: I'm quick to recommend iPhone to Macheads (as a designer, I know many) and Android to those tech-savvy. I'm a WP7 guy and have converted a half-dozen or so who just want an easy-to-use smartphone.

You think that these responses that your criticism draws are excuses, but they're not—they're someone else's opinion. I'm not saying your arguments aren't valid, I'm saying that they're not relevant to me.

I have no problem that you want dual-core. I have no doubt that dual-core might enable some things I might enjoy down the road. Personally, I'm happy with my phone as-is, and don't feel the need for dual-core. That's an honest personal opinion, not meant to negate your criticism at all! Just my thoughts based on my experience. :)

I don't game, so I don't really care about the state of gaming. Not an excuse, just my personal experience. I'm actually happy about the lack of storage! Managing the file system on my WinMo was tedious, and disastrous when a MicroSD card I was using went bad. I'm on computers at work and computers at home, and Live Mesh keeps all my vital folders perfectly in sync, so I don't need my phone to shuttle stuff around. I listen to talk radio, not music, so a few podcasts are all I need to store for entertainment!
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheus1982:
So what device do you have at the moment?
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bl4ke:
I have an iPhone. I did mention it a couple times through my posts. Why do you ask?
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheus1982:
I havent read all your posts, even though you only have seemed to have posted 4 times. Maybe you could add a signature, just to let everyone glance at what device you have.

I am just interested in what draws you to WP7 but at the same time keeps you away from it (for now).

What is it about the iPhone that you do not like, but like enough to not jump ship? The vast Appstore? Bare in mind that WP Marketplace numbers (30,000 +) are after just 12 months with 11 months without Mango.

Nokia seem to be doing some excellent ad campaigns in England that will help WP7. Also, HTC have recently been advertising the HTC Radar, but not the Titan for some reason.

Did you read that Nokia reckons that Apollo will be out in June, with features that Nokia want in the OS being pushed? This Nokia partnership could fast track the OS feature development, and with the marketing that Nokia are bring, it could force other OEMs to up their game, with more adverts, and enhanced features that sit on top of the OS.

For example, if you could get Nokia drive on your phone, why bother with a HTC or Samsung? My next phone could be a Nokia on that basis. However, I hope, like with the games that are only coming to Nokia, this exclusivity will be temporary enabling the standard OS to get enhanced across the board.

Anyway, I was just interested in your stand point.
[Windows Phone 7 General] dkp1977:
One possible reason for iPhone users holding them back from jumping ship might be all the money they invested in apps.
[Windows Phone 7 General] lumpaywk:
If not i bet someone could hack it onto a non nokia device :)
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bl4ke:
By my posts, I meant the last couple I made in this thread. I've only posted one other time. I don't usually find anything worth saying, and arguing with people on here is a royal waste of time.

What draws me to WP: The user interface. It's gorgeous. It's simple. It's not cluttered. I see a lot of potential in what the interface offers as far as the tiles.

What I don't like about the iPhone: It's mostly the UI and a couple other things I can't do without jailbreaking. It's bland, and I don't like the folders. I want to be able to customize my homescreen more. I want to be able to reply to texts without closing out of the application I am in. That leads me to a question that I have no answer to, as I don't have a WP nor do I know anyone with one. Can you reply to SMS while inside of an application without exiting it? Because with a jailbreak tweak, you can do this, and I love the ability to do so. I'd greatly appreciate an answer on that, but it wouldn't be a be all end all for my decision.

What I do like about the iPhone: The hardware design. It may not be practical(glass on glass), but it's beautiful. And I'm very careful with my phones. I've never dropped it, so that's not a huge issue for me. The physical design of a phone is important to me. And yes, the App Store. As I mentioned in my first post, there are apps that I want. Do I need them? No, I don't need them. But I do use them, and I want them available. I feel like existing apps are more of a priority than unique apps. Unique games would be great if they were any good, but a lot of the games on WP are subpar in comparison.

And yes, I know Nokia is launching massive ad campaigns. They're far better than anything Microsoft has done thus far. I hope WP8 is out by next summer. That'd be great, but I'll wait and see. In terms of Nokia Drive, that's also great, and I definitely want turn-by-turn in my phone, but I get that for free right now with the Mapquest app on my iPhone.

And I suppose that is where I stand at this point.

Edit: One app that I did forget to mention that I use almost every day is Alien Blue. I use the website Reddit a lot, and there is no app that even comes close to Alien Blue on any platform. It would be a highly missed application for me.
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheus1982:
True. You should only have to pay once, regardless of the platform you use.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bl4ke:
While I agree with that, I've spent no more than 25 dollars on apps and I've had my iPhone for over a year. I don't use many apps, but what I do use I use frequently and don't mind paying for. About 6 or 7 games/art apps, Alien Blue(which was totally optional, I just wanted to support the developer), Soundhound, Perfect Browser, Camera+, Hipstamatic, and that's pretty much it. So that may be the case for some people, but I didn't tie myself down with spending a fortune on the iOS platform.
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheus1982:
Thanks for your response. Makes a change to have a pleasant conversation with someone on this forum. If the world existed without patents, and I was rich, I would make a phone that took the best of ALL worlds. It would be a super-phone, something out of the Matrix.

Anyway, in answer to your question about replying to a text without leaving the current application. No you cannot. Pressing the toast notification will take you straight into the received text thread, then once done, you either click back to get to the app in its frozen state, or hold down on back to see the task switcher. Not sure of the mechanics exactly, as I need to receive a text to remember... :)

I understand what you mean as I had an app that could do that (via a popup window) on either Winmo or Android (cannot remember which), and was rather useful.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bl4ke:
I can understand why patents are in place, but some are absolutely absurd. I'm not happy with how Apple has proceded in terms of patent warring.

I appreciate the response to my question. That's not too bad I guess. Being that the iPhone has no back button, I have to go into the text, close it, and then go back to the app which may be in a folder. It's trivial, but it's unnecessary time wasted when BiteSMS provides a perfect workaround for that. I'm all about efficiency, and it appears WP is slightly better in that regard(so long as the loading and backtracking are fast).
[Windows Phone 7 General] morpheus1982:
Loading and back tracking is definitely fast. Although, the apps that haven't made use of the Mango fast resume will restart. Fortunately, Mango updates for apps are being deployed to make this a non-issue.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Bl4ke:
Good to know. I have plenty of time to wait. I just hope that at the very least there will be a good Reddit app and Grindr available. I want a Nokia phone, and no decent one will be in the US until next year anyway. I would most likely wait until a Nokia flagship arrived with WP8 to make the switch, so hopefully they make something especially compelling. I would have to have buyer's remorse when the next iPhone comes out.
[Windows Phone 7 General] andrew-in-woking:
Sat Nav is the dealbreaker

Hi all

When my contract with a HTC Touch Pro 2 (WM6.5) came to an end, I looked around for which phone to buy. The most important thing for me is not just the device with all its specs, but the ecosystem that it is part of.

I use MS Outlook on my computer with Windows Live to very good effect for both personal and professional communications. I think I would really struggle without it, so I'm sort of tied into the Windows Live ecosystem, which I generally like, in terms of web services.

I did research Google cloud services and I found that their non-professional services simply didn't have enough features for me.

When I investigated devices, there seemed to be several problems with using Windows Live accounts on most of the Android devices that I liked. The deal breaker for me was sat nav software which was the sticking point with WP7. However, the WP7 devices on Orange UK came with Orange Maps, a full, network dependend, sat nav solution. I ended up with the HTC 7 Mozart.

While I am sure there were lots of features I missed when I first got the phone, it does do everything I need it to on a daily basis, and more of what I wanted was built into the OS than previously under Windows Mobile.

I am sure that if you own a Mac and have all the Apple cloud solutions, iTunes, etc, then the iPhone is the obvious choice. My wife liked Android so switched to the Gmail services which do everything she needs and now has a HTC Sensation that she is very happy with.

Personally I think that all manufacturers/software companies, should switch onto the fact that for a computer or a mobile phone/device to be really useful, it needs to have great web/cloud services embedded into it.

I am waiting for the day when you will have a mobile phone which is essentially a thin client that you simply log into with a username and password and then all the processing is done remotely. Yes, you have a problem if you loose network, but think of the advantages in terms of processor power (i.e. battery life) and the amount of data that can be accessed that way.

I don't know why Microsoft haven't done that already with professional devices connected to MS Exchange servers, all configured by the corporate IT dep't. Blackberry have bought a cloud computing company, suggesting that they might go down that route.

Cheers

andrew-in-woking
[Windows Phone 7 General] Greg2k:
Microsoft System Center does allow for WP7 management by group policies and such.
[Windows Phone 7 General] Strike_Eagle:
I think we all should look at all bad and good sides and make a good conversation. Not a blind love for a platform would turn out to be so bad if Microsoft assume that they have done enough.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Apps and games that oftentimes cost 2-5x more on wp7.

However that's an issue for everyone on an established ecosystem. Even blackberry users. Having to rebut $75-100 in apps is not fun and never will be.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
But the exchange active sync policy support is worse than a motorola android phone, which is sort of embarrassing for Microsoft.
[Windows Phone 7 General] weijoon:
damn totally agree with you!!!:d
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ineedtoys:
Rubbish. I know of several corporates which impose a blanket ban on Exchange sync to Android devices for very good security reasons. They have no such restriction on WP7, WM, iOS or Symbian.

As for the original topic, and the haters (including N8ter), just take a step back and look where you are.

xdadevelopers / Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking / Windows Phone 7 General

not alt.myphonepissesonyourphone.

If you had any appreciation of where xdadev's history and where it comes from you would know it's about people getting the best out of their chosen phone, and helping each other finding / developing fixes including complete ROMs to improve performance, push them past original spec, and get round some of the shortcomings. That's why they have a separate section for every OS and device so we can get down and dirty into the innards.

If you hate your phone or the OS, there's nothing we can do about it. Take the hit, move along, and write some emails to the manufacturers or vendors, or post in their official support forums.

Quite why some persist in trolling incessantly here when they've made it perfectly clear that WP7 is not for them, is beyond comprehension.

Like I said, read the big sign on the door. This is a WINDOWS PHONE 7 DEVELOPMENT AND HACKING forum. If you hate it so much, and have nothing positive to contribute, why the hell are you still here?
[Windows Phone 7 General] RoboDad:
Either you don't spend much time there, or you are part of the problem, because what you say is patently untrue. Any time someone over there dares to point out a flaw, or suggest an enhancement, the zealots get out their torches and pitchforks. The public lynchings there are even worse than they are here (which I did not think possible).
[Windows Phone 7 General] frontieruk:
I'm not sure what you are trying to prove? The Galaxy S had a better GPU than the N1 and S II has a better GPU again so if you're saying the GPU is underpowered for gaming I'd agree, saying the CPU is though I'd disagree.

a quick search found this :-

http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/

looks like the GPU is just stronger to me *Shrugs* forum drama
[Windows Phone 7 General] uryu_ishida:
One very significant problem is that complaining about the lack of apps so adamantly is counterproductive. If you want more apps, the best way to get them is to market the advantages of the device to other people, because apps follow users. Complaining about it is simply going to make your device even worse than it is.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
Note I said Motorola android phones.

I think you need to read a bit harder. Lots of corporations do that, cause they use blackberries which are far more secure, or something like Good.
[Windows Phone 7 General] N8ter:
I'm saying the CPU is not the only reason why we want better hardware. The base os does not need an uber gpu to function smoothly.

People keep saying wp7 does not need dual core as if that is the bigger issue. Again. Read a bit deeper, and understand.
[Windows Phone 7 General] thekiller99:
Honestly a dual core on a WP7 phone?!?

Reason 1:What are you going to do with a dual core? run 50 apps at once?

I heard there was a Samsung phone with 2ghz proccessor?(Don't know if its true since i can't find the model) and i asked the person what will he do with it and he was speechless

Reason 2:It'll suck the battery dry

Notification center

Reason 1: Yeah live tiles were made for that and live tiles is what makes windows phone a windows phone if you change it then wtf you might as well use a android.

Games:Dude you have to realise that WP7 is only 1 year old, what the f*** do you expect? its already 30000+ apps and increasing.

Storage: Remember you are talking about a phone not a laptop. Having 8-16gbs of space is by far enough unless you listen to 3000 songs a day or watch 80 videos.

Yes i do agree that microsoft is focusing services more on Usa then any other countries but there is a reason for it. When you expand eg a company you always work on your own before you can work on other places(countries). If they tried do it in an instant and something goes wrong then they'll do 10x the work to fix it.

The reasons why i think the WP7 stands out is because its simple, neat and smooth. People only like androids because of the apps and customisation it provides which is the same with an iphone.

My sister uses a iphone and the only time i use it is because of the games that are installed into it.

Now Apple is releasing Iphone 4S and the only thing that's majorly new are proccessor,camera and that assistant voice thingy crap, which i believe is a way to rake in more money before releasing the Iphone 5(Pathetic).

So the person i believe that needs to take a good look in the mirror is YOU!
[Windows Phone 7 General] lumpaywk:
I do second this and tbh yes there is a few missing that by now should not be but to say the market is sparse is just a joke. I realize it is small in comparison but as Mr Ballmer has said there is only so many "torch apps you could need"
[Windows Phone 7 General] efjay:
Its one of the great mysteries of our time!
[Windows Phone 7 General] Ineedtoys:
Quite clearly it's you that is incapable of reading or comprehending simple English. Even when it's in the first 3 lines. Hint (though I expect you need more of a sharp stick) They have no such restriction on WP7, WM, iOS or Symbian. It's got nothing to do with Blackberries.

Like I said, read the big sign on the door. This is a WINDOWS PHONE 7 DEVELOPMENT AND HACKING forum. If you hate it so much, and have nothing positive to contribute, why the hell are you still here?

You're nothin' but an effin' troll, and you're now in my ignore list.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] dp28688:
Anyone else having problem of amazon app store not logging in? i can sign in online to my amazon from computer. just not on my phone. Just started today the issue. I do have cm7 cant think of any setting i changed.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] dp28688:
nevermind it fixed itself. Amazon store was temp down.

One downfall to amazon appstore is apps you install from it if amazon is not logged in the app closes and throws error.
[Atrix 4G Themes and Apps] ncmacasl:
Mine has been down all morning. I will check on my next break and see if it is back up. ( no phones at work )
[HTC Desire S] Rich196:
Hi I have a T-mobile desire S, I have S-off'd it and rooted it. I want a stock rom, but I want it de branded. Where do I get the file from and can anyone talk me through it or link me to the answer?

Also how did I unlock it from only using T-mobile sim cards?

Richard
[HTC Desire S] ncd72:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1146601

link above mate just copy, paste and go to stock roms, htc europe.

As for using any network sim, i had to get my code from 3 - gave them my imei, typed the code in and it was open. - £15.00 it cost for the code from them, but there are other sites, but not sure how reliable they are.

Hope it helps

Neil
[HTC Desire S] Rich196:
Thanks how do I back my system up 1st?

Also do I want a pre rooted rom the one I am looking at is?

RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_signed_prerooted SENSE 3.0

is that correct. Also how do I actually flash it? This is the 1st time I have done this.

Thanks
[HTC Desire S] mmmcfc:
If you have Clockwork mod recovery you can boot into your recovery and choose backup. Or if you have Rom manager installed you can create backups from there.

To flash the rom you choose install zip from sdcard once you have booted into the recovery. I think it would be easier for you to install ROM manager from the market as it helps you to back up, restore and flash roms
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killbunny:
hey all!

i got a question:

if got an htc desire with s-off

now i want to install A2SD and could not find an proper noob friendly guide....

(i have been looking for a few days)

i would appreciate if some on could link me to guide!!!

thx!
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Do you mean a2sd+?

Which rom are you using?

Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pipusz:
Check the guide in my sig, it helps you to learn the basics.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Loop4zil:
MIUI 110281 Glitch-V12

When I use RomManager to go into recovery the phone uses ClockworkMod Recovery v3.0.0.8 (orange color) . And I can't do anything with this. If I select anything I just get the little top-hat

When I use the reboot menu to go into recovery I get the Glitch Kernel - CWM-based Recovery v4.0.1.4. This one works great! I would like to only have the Glitch Recovery if possible.

When I use the 3 finger method I get CwM Voodoo LagFix Recovery v2.5.1.x I flashed this with Odin a while back. I get a host of errors regarding mount. To get any where I have to 'apply sdcard:update.zip' which of corse takes me to ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.0.8 and I have the same mount errors...but I am able to select menu items.

Questions:

Is it possible to have the phone only use the Glitch CwM recovery regardless of recovery method?

How can I get the latest CwM recovery to replace the older CwM Voodoo Lagfix?

Is this normal or do I need to take my phone to a psychiatric hospital?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sageDieu:
This is completely normal. MTD roms use a different recovery and just leave the old orange one on there. It doesn't work at all, gives the errors you have seen. Nobody really knows how to make the 3-finger thing go into the right recovery. Just use rom manager or whatever to get the right one.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Loop4zil:
Got it. Glad I am not the only one! Thanks for the answer
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pdxtechdoctor:
From what I have been able to figure out the 3-finger recover is what ever you flash with ODIN.. I'm kinda new so I cant point you to the right files, but an ODIN flashable recovery is what you want
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] times_infinity:
No. Not at all. He either needs to reboot to recovery with the reboot options aka holding the power button or using adb reboot recovery. If he flashes an mtd recovery with odin. His phone wont get passed recovery and have to start from scratch.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neh4pres:
Not on mtd roms you don't

Sent from a beautiful miui fascinate
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Loop4zil:
I used adb to rescue my phone. I eventually we able to flash the latest Miui. All is well. Xda has about every answer in the book
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BBOXPT:
Hi!

Had CM7 on my vibrant for like a week, and then changed to miui, since i missed the whole eye-candy!

Thing is, i believe that the camera quality has substancially decreased in MIUI :s

Is there any way to increase it? With a custom kernel or something?

If not, i will be probably "forced" to change to another rom :\

Cheers!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alanngai1997:
Now, I am using the CM7.1 ROM but the camera isn't work!!! I don't want to use the CM7.1 anymore and I want to flash the the original ROM(HK official ROM).How can I get the ROM and how to do that?

I want to know 'Is the way to flash original ROM same as flash CM7.1(put the CM7.1 into sdcard and setup)?'
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alanngai1997:
Can anyone help me?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] black'mamba:
Yes. The process of flashing Stock ROM is same.

Here you can find the your Stock Rom/Official Firmware... :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alanngai1997:
I have read this post before.He did that by used Odin.He didn't put the ROM into sdcard.This is the point that I don't understand.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chris.Mei:
odin do it from ur pc/laptop

cwm do it from sdcard

different file types

just dont know will he update the telecom nz firmware or not ==

have been looking for a long long time...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alanngai1997:
You means I can follow him to flash the rom?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alanngai1997:
If I need the ZSKG2,do I need to download XXKG1 too?

(I can't find XXKG1 to download in his post...)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicholaschum:
Just download ZSKI3 from the link above:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1075278

This is quoted from the link above, to ease you off:

ZSKI3

Firmware info

PDA:ZSKI3

PHONE: XXKI3

Date: 23/09/2011

Android 2.3.5

TGY (Hong Kong): http://www.multiupload.com/LAWZ135UF3

ZSKI3 Stock Kernel: http://www.multiupload.com/RH5K6JPH44

Password: intratech@XDA

After that, follow the steps on "Flashing Firmware with Odin" from the post.