yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Epic 4G Apps] zanderman112:
Hmm. Well I guess you have no choice then.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G Apps] zanderman112:
Dude, I'm so sorry :-(

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G Apps] rydeN-:
Hehe >;)
[HTC Desire S] thebiffman:
Hello,

Ever since the latest update from HTC to Desire S I have been thinking about unlocking, rooting and flashing custom a ROM into my Desire S. I have been reading in this forum to get information if its possible after the last update and also if it would be worth it. It would seem that the easiest way is to unlock the bootloader with HTCdev.com and then continue with the backup and flashing of a new ROM. Can anyone confirm this method?

I've of course heard the arguments that the custom ROMs use less battery and are more stable but when I read through the forum I always manage to find people having problems with connectivity and battery life, even in the latest CyanogenMod ROMs. This makes me a bit hesitant to make the step into a life of custom ROMs since I dont want to get there and realising that my original phone worked better. So can someone confirm that they custom ROMs actually are better in any of the following critera:

- Stability

- Speed

- Battery efficiency

Secondly I would like some tips about good ROMs for the Desire S. Of what I've managed to find out CynaogenMod seems like a good choice. MIUI seems to look to much like iOS for my taste. And I'm not sure that I want or need a Sense ROM, I am currently having a hard time figuring out why sense is something I should use. How stable are the latest Sense 3.5 ROMs vs. CynaogenMod?

I will be very grateful for any thoughts and tips, especially if you are a noob like me. I have only ever jailbroken an iPhone 3G and that process was extremely easy and seems to differ quite a bit from unlocking, rooting and flashing an Android phone.

Thanks,

Andreas

edit: Is there any big difference between the nightly build and the "stable" build of CynaogenMod?
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
The best advice I can give you is, try it yourself ;)

After unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom recovery, you can backup your current rom, to revert back to it whenever you want.

Most (if not even all) custom roms are faster and have a lighter battery consumption then the stock. The stability depends on how "fresh" a rom is. But all 3 creteria are not carved in stone, battery drain is often deppending on which user you are. As poweruser you won't see much difference, cause the battery cosumption advantage is at idle.

Stability is in most common more or less only depending on the rom, but if you use root apps in beta or alpha state there also can be freezes or reboots.

When it comes to speed, the question is, do you want to overclock it or maybe underclock,...

You see there are many possibilities^^

I personaly like cyanogen most, it's fast, stable and has no bloat, but it's not as eyecandy as sense and the standard apps are unfortunatly not as handy as the sense ones, but there are many replacments at the market^^

The difference between Stable and nightly is that the stable release is tested, the nightly rolls out almost every day and is build by an bot. They are released after building it, the tests for them are made by people like me who want to have the latest source with latest features^^

Regards

EDIT:

Maybe this [GUIDE] Complete tutorial for beginners... and this [GUIDE] Maximum Battery - Maximizing your battery life with CM7 ROM could be interesting for you, also take a look at the [INDEX][02 NOV 11] ROMS/RECOVERY/ROOT/HBOOT/RADIOS/TWEAKS/GUIDES/etc thread.
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Have to agree with Tectas there... there is no perfect ROM. If there was, everybody would be using the same ROM and there wouldn't be so many different ROMs out there. Your personal opinion about a ROM will bias you towards it eventually, but to get to that stage you have to try out a couple of different platforms to allow you to make a mental picture of what you want in a ROM and which ROMs give you that...

If you want suggestions, then you should try out at least 5 categories of ROMs:

1. AOSP : Stock gingerbread. Vanilla UI. No bells and whistles, just the OS the way google built it.

2. CyanogenMod. No introductions required here. Google is your friend. (And YouTube)

3. MIUI (its looks very different from both the other builds, but you can skin it to death and it has a pretty big fan community behind it). Minus all the bloatware, fast and good battery life...and possibly the best stock music player of the lot - except maybe the Sense 3.5 player with beats audio(untouched).

Again, personal tastes - apples and oranges.

4. Sense 3 Official ported ROMs : Most popular ones currently are by Lowveld and Proxuser, tweaked to perfection. Stock pre-rooted ROMs are also available, but then there's nothing custom about them. Excellent lockscreen, beautiful animations and transitions, smooth UI and groundbreaking social network integration throughout the OS. The most functional, bug free and battery friendly one is Hyperion. (personal opinion). Added bonus is that the customer support is awesome!! (general opinion)

5. Sense 3.5 Official ported ROMs : The latest addition to our phone, skimmed off the newer HTC devices like the Sensation XL (aka Runnymede) and Bliss. These are the best looking (subjective) and have amazing functionality and built in widgets. The most notable here, with absolutely no issues at all is the Endymion ROM, by lowveld. Proxuser also has a Runny port for the Desire S, but there are unresolved issues on that one. Prox is a great developer and i'm sure he'll come around to solving them soon.

Why you would buy a HTC phone if you don't want Sense is something that completely eludes my tiny brain. But for those that want a non-sense ROM (has a ring to it, doesn't it) there's AOSP, and MIUI, Cyanogen. In the Sense corner, are the Official HTC ROM ports, both Sense 3 and 3.5.

You'll have to try them out on your own to see what tickles you in the right way...

DISCLAIMER: I am human. I have opinions. They may be wrong.

I have answered this question at length for the benefit of those looking for opinions, and speaking the universal truth is beyond my capabilities. So please don't be offended by any comments about any ROMs above. In their own little way, each is a little better than the other. It's called choice. We all have it... (Well, at least the ROOTED ones!! :p:p:p)

EDIT: Info corrected. Thanks to Tectas.
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Sry, but cyanogen got nothing to do with sense, it's pure aosp ;)

And why someone uses it, cause it's damn fast and the first official place to get updates or are there any sense roms with gingerbread 2.3.7 ? ;)

And you can also set the hell out of it.

Ah and btw miui is based on cyanogen ;)

Swyped from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] enigmaamit:
Thank you Tectas. Post edited.

Like i said. Opinions... i could be wrong. :)
[HTC Desire S] dan-fish:
Because HTC have the best build quality and they're damn sexy :D
[HTC Desire S] thebiffman:
Thanks all for the answers. I have now tried to flash a custom ROM, the stable version of CynaogenMod to be more precise.

I say "tried" since it didnt work. I managed to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com. I also managed to install Clockworkmod and root the phone. And made a backup. And it all worked. But when I installed the ROM I got stuck on the HTC logo. So I restored the backup. And it worked.

So Im happy that the phone works but Im irritated that I couldn't install the ROM. I read something about HTCDev not unlocking kernel, only system partition, can that be the case? I will just make a list of all the steps I have taken and maybe someone can help me figure out what I did wrong =)

1. Unlock bootloader with HTCDev. It says unlocked. I still have HBOOT 2.00.0002. Is that a problem?

2. Used fastboot to install ClockworkMod. Worked great.

3. Used ClockworkMod recovery to install SuperUser I believe its called. The icon showed up in the apps drawer.

4. Used ClockworkMod "install zip from sd card" to install the CynaogenMod zip. Like described on CynMods wiki. No error that I remember.

5. Reboot and stuck on HTC logo. Does not show up when using "adb devices" and charging light does not light up when connecting the phone to the charger.

6. Press and hold Volume up + Volume Down + Power to reboot/shutdown phone and pulled battery when it went black.

7. Power down + Power to boot into recovery. Restore backup.

8. Rooted again since backup was taken before root. Superuser is back in the app drawer.

9. Wut should I dooo? =)

Thanks for any help. Its hard to find the right answers sometimes even using google and forums search.

edit: HTC seems to make pretty solid and affordable phones. With a UI thats at least okey. Thats why I bought it =) But Im a tech guy and likes to try new things (and also hates that skins does not work on latest Desire S update) so now Im venturing into the dark lands of custom ROMs... =))
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
When toy flash a new ROM you have to wipe data and cache. Especially when the ROM is as different as the cyanogen from the previous one ;)

Swyped from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] thebiffman:
I have wiped Data and Cache. I have not touched the "dalvik cache" or whatever it is called.

This is the text I followed:

"Select the option to Wipe data/factory reset.

Then select the option to Wipe cache partition.

Select Install zip from sdcard.

Select Choose zip from sdcard.

Select the CyanogenMod update.zip."

It would seem that the HTCDev.com unlock is not as good as the revolutionary version... Seems a couple of other guys have had the same problem.
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
Dalvik is the virtual machine where the Android apps run in.

Ok, damn. Sry I have no experience with the the htcdev unlocking procedure, I used xtc-clip, cause when I got mine there even were no possibility to unlock with revolutionary^^ Maybe try revolutionary or a custom sense ROM, but without the advantage of a custom kernel your experience could be the half.

Edit: I'm just wondering, cause only system can't be true, recovery has also it own partition.

Swyped from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] thebiffman:
The revolutionary method is not viable for me since I have HBOOT 2.<something> from the latest Desire S update. I tried a method from another trhead about EVO that was supposed to make flashing work after unlocking with HTCDev but with the same result: just showing the HTC logo. I am now restoring my backup again.

And I dont really know if I should clear dalvik cache since the guides dont mention that.

The tip I tried was in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17219728&postcount=292
[HTC Desire S] Tectas:
You can downgrade your hboot to use revolutionary, it works with htcdev unlocked, the thread is also somewhere here.

You can try to wipe Dalvik cache, but a cache wipe should also include that.

Edit: The downgrade guide is at the index thread i linked before ;)

Swyped from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] thebiffman:
May have to try that out, wouldn't feel right to give up this fast. Have a good backup ready ;) Found the thread. Will check it out.

Thanks =)

edit: For anyone finding this thread with similar problems, the following thread is trying to figure it out:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1330400&page=3
[HTC Desire S] xxmorph3u5xx:
from what i read on the forum it seems that those with htc-dev unlock are having problems with flashing custom roms.

THIS might help
[HTC Desire S] sameer_khojla:
HTCDev.com unlock is not as good as the revolutionary ?

I have wiped Data and Cache. I have not touched the "dalvik cache" or whatever it is called.

This is the text I followed:

"Select the option to Wipe data/factory reset.

Then select the option to Wipe cache partition.

Select Install zip from sdcard.

Select Choose zip from sdcard.

Select the CyanogenMod update.zip."

It would seem that the HTCDev.com unlock is not as good as the revolutionary version... Seems a couple of other guys have had the same problem.

Your Device Still S-On and you have to Get S-Off Procedure because HTCDev.com just unlock boot loader i believe :-)

Edit Take A Look

Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?

Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.

i hope this helps You :)
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
Themes for Serenity KK4 RC6.2

** Eye Candy by IDoMy0wnRacing

Download Theme HERE ** Download Revert HERE

Now, some words from the author :D

** ICS Theme by chazkenji (Original thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1355454)

Download Theme HERE

Add-ons & Fixes for Serenity KK4 RC6 / RC6.1 / RC6.2 / 6.3 Final

** You MUST reboot between each flash to avoid issues!!

- Modded TW4 Launcher, CWM Flashable, go HERE

- UCKE3 Modem, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Increase Cache Size Init.d Script, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Serenity RC6 / RC6.1 / RC6.2 Stock Theme Revert for Notification Icons, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Serenity RC6 / RC6.1 / RC6.2 Theme for Notification Icons, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Battery Mod - Gingerbread Green Vertical, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Battery Mod - JazzK, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Battery Mod - Enhanced Vertical, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Battery Mod - Enhanced Horizontal, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Serenity Battery Revert, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- KH3 GPS Files, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- WPA_Supplicant Adhoc Support, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Serenity RC6 / RC6.1 / RC6.2 Remove Battery Notifications (Sound, Icon and Screen On), Notification Icons Themed, CWM Flashable, download HERE

- Serenity RC6 / RC6.1 / RC6.2 Remove Battery Notifications (Sound, Icon and Screen On), Notification Icons Unthemed, CWM Flashable, download HERE

GPS Instructions for Serenity

This is how I go the GPS running properly:

- Download the specific GPS.CONF file for your country/region from HERE and flash through CMW

- Enable GPS, open AngryGPS (on dialer, dial *#*#3214789650#*#*)

-- select Settings then SUPL Settings

-- change SERVER to "supl.google.com" (without the quotes)

-- change PORT to "7276" (without the quotes)

-- go back to main menu then Delete GPS Data

- Enjoy! :D

CREDITS (Big thanks to)

- miztaken1312 for the Cache Script and Battery Mods

- tomween1 for modded TW4

- xpakage for CWM Digital Battery

- ctechbob for fixed Gallery3D

- UserNamer for helping out fixing the Superuser reboot issue on RFS

- iXNyNe for increase cache size script (for Serenity RC6)

- axeman007 for AdHoc Wifi (wpa_supplicant) & Google News and Weather Widget

- IDoMy0wnRacing for the Eye Candy Theme

- chazkenji for the ICS Theme
[Captivate Android Development] IlluminatedOne:
To the people who gave this thread 1-2 stars: Did you even download the ROM? :mad:

People, if you don't like the ROM, mention in the thread explaining what problem you have faced. You're not encouraging developers to improve his/her ROM by giving bad stars, especially when he/she JUST released the ROM.

@OP: good work!
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
thanks for the support!

ahhh... I'm a "HE" by the way... :D
[Captivate Android Development] psycho2097:
Damn...

Sent from my cell phone. DUH
[Captivate Android Development] sepherian:
amazing rom, really smooth. fivestarred and thanks-ed
[Captivate Android Development] psycho2097:
Me 2.... :)

Sent from my cell phone. DUH
[Captivate Android Development] Jirv311:
Bummer for me. This ROM is essentially what I am in the process of building for my first. :-) I might just have to install this and see how it runs. Also, thanks for posting the links to the reference threads. That will be a big help for myself and I'm sure others.

Thanks for the work you put into this.
[Captivate Android Development] viny2cool:
Great another rom...yeippe...Dev love is coming back to captivate....
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
don't give up on your ROM, the amount of learning you get in the process is reason enough...

glad my credits links could help! they sure helped me a lot... :D

I'll be waiting your feedback on my ROM also!
[Captivate Android Development] stayintwisted:
installing,, will let you know how it plays on my phone anyway

think it was my phone but had to install three times to get market and bluetooth working :) looks good and running nice now,, will probably only remember to re-update this if something doesn't work lol

good work

nother update: just one persnickety thing after another,, phone just signed up to get totally wiped and start from the beginning,,glad it was my tester :)
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
please do!
[Captivate Android Development] Jirv311:
I definitely won't be giving up. You're right the amount I've learned already is tremendous. I'm usually in the garage working on my Jeep or my Subaru so this is a better winter hobby for me that costs a lot less. Should make the wife happy. :D

I'm downloading the ROM now so I'll let you know tonight how it works out.

FYI about the Gallery bug. Apparently, from what I've read, it's either from modifying framework-res OR from syncing pictures from Picasa. Clearing data for Gallery app and/or turning off Picasa syncing and rebooting usually fixes it for me.
[Captivate Android Development] mbc663:
This looks really nice, finally a reason to switch from fusion. is a wipe required?

---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:47 PM ----------

This is a known problem with the KJ leaks. you can use a different photo app or clear data as you stated.
[Captivate Android Development] Dave the Knave:
I've been trying as long as I can to hold onto my current rom setup for as long ad I can. Stability is huge deal to me and I feel like I have that now. That being said, a few of Froyo's quirks have been getting to me lately (specifically locking me out of my wifi access points with no reason). But I think your rom will be my first attempt at sticking with Gingerbread. I'll make a write of the process for going from Cog4 to yours for those taking the same route I am.

Sent from my Captivate
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
Sorry, forgot to mention, Serenity is FULL WIPE.

I'll be waiting your feedback then!
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
market is working fine here, but bluetooth... can you do a little test for me?

reboot the phone, turn wifi on and then bluetooth... see if it turns on at all ok!

thanks!
[Captivate Android Development] syanz87:
good work bro... keep it up
[Captivate Android Development] crt60:
Just ignore the stars, i ignore them anyway. Good job.. Keep it up
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
+1+10chars
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
I´ll be home in a few hours also... only then I´ll be able to upload the ROM to mediafire...

If your sister borrows you her phone, I´ll send you the link on private message ok! :D
[Captivate Android Development] touchtweak:
Great Rom so far. Smooth, quick and clean. Thanks to the dev(s).

ive got a question about the music player that i hope someone can be of help with. Can it be replaced with Music 4.01? I placed the apk file from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1293532&highlight=music into the system app folder and reboot. The app will open and will sync online, but does not show any music from my sd card- specifically is says 'No local music'
[Captivate Android Development] tmusall:
GPS supl port settings

Shouldn't the GPS instructions in the 2nd post include setting the port to 7276 as well. I've always done that when changing to supl.google.com.

BTW: great rom! running 2 days now without a problem. looking forward to the next update.
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
I fixed the 2nd post, thanks for the heads up!
[Captivate Android Development] shoman94:
I'll test it for you.
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
I´ll send you a PM as soon as the link is up!

thanks! :D
[Captivate Android Development] rfound:
ddoubt, just wanted to share that after running cognition for about a year until DG moved on, then playing with Pinnacle 1.3 and finding it quite a bit laggy with the included Kernel (didn't try others), I've been running Serenity RC4.1 for a couple days now and its been pretty solid.

The first day seemed like the battery life was horrible. But I let it run down all the way and then fully charged to calibrate gauge, and now it seems like its running pretty good on that front.

Whether its the EXT4 or something else I don't know, but this is about as fast as my Captivate has ever been (though speed has always been a complaint of mine).

Keep up the good work.
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
I'm glad the way RC4.1 turned out, pretty fast and reliable on EXT4... but... I'm doing some big changes on RC4.2... RFS with Red Nebula kernel... I wanna see which config runs faster...
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
I need 02 more beta testers for RC4.2c RFS, is anyone up to the task?
[Captivate Android Development] Kyuta Syuko:
I really think that's going to be on a phone by phone/person by person basis. Though I don't really know enough about either formatting scheme to really be sure.
[Captivate Android Development] touchtweak:
With GPS i simply opened AngryGPS using the method mentioned (*#*#3214789650#*#*) and changed the Settings --> General --> Operation Mode = Standalone

I get locks in under a minute inside and within about 5 sec with a clear shot to the sky. All this north of the 49th :D

Happy rom. Happy gps.

Edit: Oh, reboot after changing settings.
[Captivate Android Development] chazkenji:
Black Gallery seems to be fixed BUT I can't set wide wallpaper from it :(

There's only 1 mode (vertical wallpaper) while setting wallpaper.
[Captivate Android Development] nzahorchak:
I would offer to test, but since I just flashed RC4.1 this evening, I wouldn't really be able to compare the two just yet.
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
which gallery you´re using? the one from add-ons or the one from the RC4.1? It seems I´ve messed up my files here and put a different Gallery3d.apk on each place, really don´t know which is supposed to be fixed but the one on RC4.1 it isn´t... and it let you choose between wide or vertical...

have you tried clearing data?
[Captivate Android Development] chazkenji:
I used the one in add-ons...

But let me try using the one in the RC4.1 to see if it can fix the problem. :confused:
[Captivate Android Development] Janax99:
I'm up for it, but haven't been running Serenity yet (currently on Fasty KJ3 1.2)...
[Captivate Android Development] rfound:
Forgive my ignorance here, but is there some actual benefit to RFS?

I've come to assume that it is just laggier overall than EXT4, with no particular reason to use it, other than it is what Samsung went with on the stock ROMs.

I don't mean this to be rude, I truly don't know...
[Captivate Android Development] KagaHades:
I'll do it if you still need people
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
I have some additions I want to put on RC4.2, also I´ve updated to red nebula v1 aggressive, so I´ll be uploading RC4.2d beta tonight then I´ll send you guys the link ok!

thanks for the help!
[Captivate Android Development] ddoubt:
well I don´t really know that much about filesystems, I think kernel devs would answer more precise to you but, RFS plays nice on Gingerbread ROMs with some tweaks, with a nice kernel and good tweaks you can see no difference between them... so what would be the point on changing to EXT4 if the stock is as good as or in this specific case I´m testing with red nebula, maybe even better? :D