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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] apexi350z:
I know that ATT charges $35 for restocking fee when you return the phone, what about activation fee? Since we will be activating a new phone?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tboooe:
Frankly, I think these screen sizes are getting ridiculous. Perhaps I have small hands and pockets but I already feel the SGS2 is a large device. If they can squeeze a large screen into the same overall footprint of the SGS2 then I may be interested.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Misterjunky:
NO

No you will not need to re-purchase any apps.

I came from Captivate to the Infuse phones and now SGS2

and never had to pay for my paid apps which I paid for.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
For those worried about battery life, is the T-Mobile S2 a good measurement? Early spec predictions for this phone note that it's a 1850 mAh.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Skyrocket_id6515
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] IshouldntbeHere:
looks like ill be selling my current gs2 for this one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pinoymutt:
Which probably means heavier and thicker. :(

Although it doesn't look like the benefits are a huge jump, I am the only one that feels like AT&T just flipped us a major bird? Now I know how my little brother felt through the TMO Vibrant debacle (he was an early adopter)....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Firepac:
So I heard this snapdragon CPU is crap and will be slower than the Exynos?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] IshouldntbeHere:
They did for sure. I live in an LTE city so Im going to get it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] seh6183:
I keep reading conflicting specs for the screen on this phone. I have read 4.65 and 4.5 inch display. Also I have read that it will have qhd resolution as well as the same Res as the s2.

There are 'official' specs supporting both of what I just posted.

How do we know what is accurate?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pinoymutt:
Everything I'm reading points to pretty much the same specs at the TMO version (4.5 screen and same res as the regular S2). It's NOT the rumored HD version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
Surprised no one mentioned that this is likely the same phone as the Rogers version coming out this week:

http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/10/...sung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-htc-vivid-holiday/

http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/10/...mited-quantities-today-more-coming-next-week/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] NYG:
Wow! This sucks as I can't trade mine in for the new one. Don't care much about lte but the faster cpu and bigger screen has my attention...got my gsII on its release date sept. 18 grr...!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Longcat14:
It isn't crap, but its slower then the Exynos. You wouldn't notice a speed decrease though.

Once we can get the processor to scale on both cores properly, it should equally match CPU power with the Exynos.

Sent from my phone. :3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sopdogg:
How did you get it on September 18th? That was the "unofficial" release date from Samsung. A lot of people including myself were disappointed it didn't come out that day. Check your receipt or call AT&T, it will probably say October 2nd (unless you got ultra secret hookup, you can probably get the Skyrocket earlier too). Anyways, just return it if you want it that badly and just go a few days without a phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
LTE = battery hogging fatty

Snapdragon = Approx. same performance as an Exynos despite the higher clock, which means even more battery drain. Also, zero commonality with the Exynos. Good luck getting custom kernels for it if Samsung botches their source release as badly as they did with the T989 (the first of the Snapdragon GSII abominations)

No thanks

So if someone is wondering if this dev will be jumping ship - No way. I've already had to deal with one phone with bastard-child hardware with minimal commonality with other devices (Infuse 4G), I bought this device for its commonality with the I9100.

Remember - Due to significant hardware commonality, we can fairly easily track updates that come to the I9100 (such as when ICS comes out).

With the Skyrocket, you'll be AT&T's ***** when it comes to waiting for the ICS update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] seh6183:
That link doesn't list specs for the phone :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pinoymutt:
Now that's the kind of feedback I was looking for to brighten my day this morning!!! :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nkd:
I have tried the 4.5 inch screen and 4.3 with that resolution. 4.3 looks night and day better and I would not even touch the 4.5 inch screen again at that resolution. If I was to get one I would go with the HTC 4.5 inch screen with qHD. However 4.3 inch gs2 looks amazing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
This is interesting...might stick with the Galaxy S2 when I get my exchange then.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Firepac:
Let's just hope it's not running the snap dragon then.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] captivatingtab:
X2......I'll be sticking with my GSII :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nicktuso:
After reading this thread I spoke with my local AT&T location, here is what I found out

I don't need a reason to return it within the 30 day time period of when I purchased my phone(bought on Sep 2nd).

There is a 35$ restocking fee

They have no idea what the new version "skyrocket" is

I have to have bought my phone from an actual AT&T store not a retailer to be able to return it in those 30 days.

Honestly my own thoughts, my screen is awesome, it's big enough for me. I've played with the sprint version of our phone with the larger screen, that **** is right over the line of too big in my hands to use daily. With the SGP case for my phone now it's pretty perfect. Plus Tampa, FL doesn't have LTE so the skyrocket would probably be pointless. I also have a friend that owns a GSII for tmobile, I hate it and his battery life is not at all that good, his phone is slower than mine when it's stock, let's not even talk about how much faster mine is when I OC it to just 1400...kills his phone.

I have a 2000mah battery, so yeah I'll probably be sticking with my current phone. I believe we(AT&T people with GSII) got the best version of the phone that exists, best processor, best screen and best battery life. That's just my .02.

---------- Post added at 02:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:40 PM ----------

Someone needs a tatoo with the words from this post. Love reading your posts. lol

+1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vladm7:
To me the sweet size for the screen is 4". Ours 4.27" seems biggish, but acceptable. 4.5"+ = BIG NO.

I live in LTE coverage area, but I find current HSPA speeds sufficient for my needs, so there is no reason (for me) to swap because of LTE either.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] chenliway:
Great to hear. The make or break reason for going through the hassle of switching would be if all the devs jumped ship. As long as there's a community, I'll stay with the non LTE version :)

You guys rock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] propsizzle:
4.5" is too big. i'm thinking about going to my local t-mo store and playing with their version of the S2 to see how the size feels.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
The LTE radio interests me simply because living in the SF Bay Area, it's very likely we'll get an LTE market within the next 6 months. Plus, turing off the 4G radio will just drop you down to HSPA+ anyway.

That said, the larger market share of the SII means that developers will be more supportive. What to do...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sopdogg:
This is per Samsung's Twitter:

SamsungMobileUS Samsung Mobile US

We're skyrocketing! 4G LTE + 4.5-inch Super AMOLED Plus + Gingerbread = #GalaxySII Skyrocket launching on Nov 6th!

smgm.us/zGy

Specs are listed in the link.

Edit: Looks like twitter shortens the URL.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Skyrocket_id6515
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TOA Duck:
You can always depend on Entropy to clear up all the bull**** and shoot it straight with us. Thanks entropy and glad to hear you're staying.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nicktuso:
Hardware

Processor:

Dual core, 1500 MHz

- that's from your link

I'd love to know which processor it is, qualcomm or exynos? or something totally random lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bms231:
I think either way this is yet another bullsh!t move on behalf of samsung and att screwing its customers. I think verizon had the right idea....... wait for the LTE version. I wish so bad my captivate's GPS worked b/c I would go back to it and ditch ATT. I know for one thing I am not renewing ATT period.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] glitchsys:
Wow! If it's got a Qualcomm then screw it. I was so pissed when I heard about the SGS2 Skyrocket, I mean it's been less than a month and now they have a faster phone? The bigger screen size didn't concern me too much, same resolution so things will just be bigger and 4.3 is already big enough. The LTE was cool even though they don't have it in my area, will probably be a year 'til they do. But the 1.5ghz CPU ticked me off the most. But if it's the Qualcomm 1.5ghz, then forget it. This thing should then be comparable (slightly better due to LTE) to the T-Mobile version.

I'll stick with the original AT&T Samasung Galaxy S II then. Smaller screen (4.3" isn't really 'small') means it's easier to hold, plus it's compatible with most of the international Galaxy S II accessories like cases, holsters, batteries, etc. The LTE is ok but AT&T isn't deploying LTE overnight, it'll be a while. And the CPU is a Qualcomm 1.5ghz which is barely comparable to the 1.2gh Exynos CPU in application performance but loses in GPU. The GPU in the original AT&T SGS2 should blow the Qualcomm out of the water.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Firepac:
So does that mean it's confirmed that the skyrocket will sport a snapdragon processor? I'm also interested to see if this one has a FM Radio or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] crispy1805:
I will be switching. I was going to get the SGS2, but I knew this was coming out. Devs complain about the Infuse, but it is a good phone. Its the best selling phone (behind the IPhone) on AT&T for a reason. Maybe it is a devs nightmare, but in real world use its quite fantastic. A lot better than my Captivate, which had a ton if dev support. Dev support is important, but if my Captivate taught me anything --- it's not everything. Real world use is the best indicator.

The only concern is the LTE radio and if it will drain battery. If it can be switched off, that wood be great. We will see sunday!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] lonewolf69:
My Friend's T-Mobile version of the phone doesn't have FM receiver, and I have a 2nd colleage at work that will be getting his shipped on Wednesday... I'll know for sure by then...

Why is t-mobile being referenced here?!?? Because the AT&T LTE model is supposed to be the same as the T-Mobile model and both based on:

Samsung Galaxy S II LTE:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_lte-4124.php
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dxtra:
I'm returning my GSII in the next hour or so. Don't see why sticking with the GSII if I'm still within 30 days return policy

Plus - LTE, 4.5 screen size

Unknown - CPU chip?

Downfall - 480x800 on a 4.5 screen :( , thickness probably a lot thicker. $35 restocking fee plus the $50 difference.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
looks like I'll be returning my SGS2 for this one... LTE capable with a 1.5ghz?!?! I bet its a Qualcomm though
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SpectraDawn:
Well that pretty much answered all my questions! LoL thank you! :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] lorijuan1024:
Article says existing data plan users don't have to change their plan
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
Don't know where this site got their specs, but they specifcally name the XMM6260 (Exynos) processor: http://gadgetian.com/26602/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-lte-att-specs-price

Personally, I'll wait for a better source.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] crispy1805:
AT&T said that their LTE phones will be less thicker due to technology improvements in the radio. They also said that they won't drain as much battery as the LTE phones already released on other networks, due to a different standard and radio design.

Again, we will see Sunday. But I am hopeful. There is a reason AT&T is taking so long with their LTE rollout.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] degenerazn:
Anybody purchase this phone from Amazon? I purchased it Oct 1st, didn't get it till Oct 4th. They do have a 30 day return policy but how would that work with the contract and such?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Blind_Guardian:
I second this, I went with the att sgs2 because of the commonality with the I9100. I was not a fan of the t-mobile variant and it looks like this is just that with LTE tacked on.

To be honest that screen is going to be horrible. I went through piss poor visuals on the atrix thanks to it's pentile display and I will not be doing that again. At that size you will notice a large difference in quality between the current s2 and the skyrocket.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] aimfire72:
I got mine off-contract at Target... paid full price, so I will be returning it today since I'm still within my 30 days. I had an Infuse when it first came out and love the larger screens!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rav4kar:
SGS2 skyrocket looks like T-mobile's SGS2

Hmm! So what's the point at&t released SGS2 just before SGS2 skyrocket? I guess SGS2 skyrocket is same as that of T-mobile's SGS2 comparing the specs of both!

Worth it if it has HD display and ICS ( Ice scream Sandwich) ! convincing myself!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bms231:
So since today is day 30 for anyone who bought the S2 on release day I filed a BBB complaint against ATT reading:

On October 2, 2011 after owning a Samsung Captivate (aka craptivate) for over a year I was "allowed" to upgrade to a new Samsung Galaxy SII. Put aside the fact that the Captivate's GPS never worked and the "fix" ATT provided was offered outside of the 30 day return policy, now I learn that ATT is releasing a new Galaxy SII Skyrocket on Nov 6th with LTE. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING!?!?!?! This is yet another kick in the teeth to all those screwed over by the Captivate. Now we are all screwed with phone made obsolete after 30 days of ownership. Let's talk about that for a second, you ****ED, yes ****ED all the customers who bought the phone on the release day by making an announcement on the 30th day of ownership. Oh, and you will charge those who didn't get it the day it came out with a 35 dollar restock fee. Thank you ATT I hope you go the way of Netflix for constantly screwing over your customers. This is total B.S.! Enough so that every day I continue to have the S2 I am going to take 5 minutes, google ATT, and blog on whatever comes up first about how much ATT sucks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ferrocene:
Enjoy your 4 hours of battery life.

Have a look around the LTE/Verizon forums.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] crispy1805:
I have the Infuse (which has the same screen) and it is quite nice. There is nothing wrong with the visuals. Using LCD density changer does make it better though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
That same site lists a "Coretx-A9" - rife with typos. There is no such thing as an XMM6260.

The Exynos model number is 4210.

It's more likely an MSM8260 or APQ8060 - 1.5 GHz Snapdragons
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BlakDye:
I think I'll be sticking with this sgs2, LTE sounds nice but not worth the exchange of a even bigger screen compared to my already comfortably big screen and I love my devs here in this community which I know will bring me a good stable edition of ICS. The only phone I would exchange

It for would be the new google phone but I don't think its coming for ATT in store.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Blind_Guardian:
Good going there genius, that's really going to get their attention. /sarcasm

You'd have more success in being allowed to return your S2 if you chose a different path when you wrote this. You are going to take 5 minutes out of every day to blog about how "ATT sucks"? Really, you have nothing better to do with your life than waste 5 minutes every day over a phone.

I'd love to see how this plays out. 2 weeks later, this skyrocket sucks! The battery drains too fast and LTE isn't fast enough in my area. ATT sucks because they won't let me return it for the non-LTE S2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Firepac:
Another question...is the original sgs2 getting phased out or will both versions be offered?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Blind_Guardian:
I've seen the sprint version and the t-mo version of the S2 with their larger displays and to me it was very noticeable. Though, I will be the first to admit, I am very picky when it comes to screen quality. I could not deal with a screen that size at that low a resolution. Of course this is all subjective, opinions will vary. :D

I would guess that they will offer both versions. I see no reason to phase out the s2, especially considering only 5 markets have LTE.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pdc419:
Do you guys know how fast you'llhit data caps with that thing?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Blind_Guardian:
Speed has nothing to do with data caps. It all depends on their use. If they suddenly start streaming more videos/music then yes. If there usage remains the same then it won't be an issue. Of course this is all assuming you aren't on a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] runtohell121:
Bought the SGSII since Oct. 2.. and a newer one comes out.. really?!

But then.. 4.5" is way too big for me.. 4.3" is already bugging me, hard to get used to. LTE.. is it necessary? Will you really notice the difference between 3.5G and 4G speed from AT&T? Just regular web browsing, I don't think I need that fast of the internet on my phone when it's capped at 2gb.. But then that's my opinion. I'll probably wait til the Galaxy Nexus comes out and see what I want to do.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nicktuso:
Something I love about this thread...about 80% of the people who own AT&T GS2's are planning on keeping them. This makes me feel good. Glad I switched over from 3.5 years of being an iPhone person to get the captivate, then getting wet over the GSII and getting one the day before they came out.

I've read reviews on the difference in the screen from the AT&T vs T mobile versions, they usually always read "AT&T wins in the display category because same resolution screen at a smaller size looks better to the eye visually, colors are more vibrant and you don't have to cover as much green with your thumb". lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pinoymutt:
I think is my biggest concern -- whether or not the original (will now refer to it as the "OG" version) will still continued to be supported, or if AT&T will completely drop it like a hot potato.

Personally I am waiting for 2 things to be "officially" supported (although we'll see it much sooner on custom ROMS):

1. ICS -- (won't hold my breath too much on this one, and judging by my experience on the Captivate could be a LONG time before AT&T ever gets to this one); and

2. More realistically, NFC support. I'd really like to use this capability, but it would suck if AT&T never officially turns it on due to paying attention to the new "baby" on the block.

Will we be relegated to official "red headed step-child" status? Only time will tell.

(BTW -- no offense to my red-haired stepchildren friends out there!)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] slappyjoker:
Chika Da China Da Chinese Chicken?

I am a network engineer and currently take care of the Dallas Mobility Market. Pre sales LTE network testing on LTE capable tablet.

28 meg down

11 meg up

Real time testing from network engineers barring network testing with 75% network capacity being used. Even with a calculated 75% network bandwidth usage your speeds should only vary 5-10%.

If you live in an LTE area, currently have an SGS 2 and can return or upgrade, do it. Dual core 1.5 with a soon to be OC'd core and custom kernel. This is the phone that will not need to be exchanged/upgraded/sold/thrown/drowned or handed down. Handsets have hit their user needed expactations for a while. The only need that this new handset doesn't have is the ability to give you a reach around. Outside of that very odd need or request from a smart phone we as users have/will have a unit that is more capable than half of the worlds current active PC's.

So, in closing. If you can get one and have access to the extra bandwidth it provides.....why not.

If you don't........well go out, find a nice young woman. At least she can provide the reach around. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nuwayman:
I love my gs2 and not even thinking about switching. No lte where I live. Bigger screen and bigger number's on processor doesn't mean better. Just like my old captivate using an i9000 rom I can't wait till we are able to use international GS2 roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] crispy1805:
These are the same arguments that happened over on the Infuse forums when the SGS2 was finally released in the US. They are all solid phones, the SGS2 is technically better then the Infuse and from the looks of it the Skyrocket will be better than the SGS2 technically (we will see with the battery though). This is all just speculation right now as to "oh this will be not worth it". Only time will tell. If you have the SGS2 and are satisfied, then don't change. It's a solid phone. Just don't bash a new phone before it even comes out due to your satisfaction with the current one. While the development community is here (right now), it doesn't mean that the Skyrocket won't get developers --- it will.

The size increase isn't ultimately that significant, unless you are coming from a Captivate (4 inches) or smaller phone. Go to an AT&T store and look at the SGS2 beside the Infuse and you will see. Personally, I wouldn't go over 4.5 inches. It's big enough for my pocket.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dandrumheller:
Add me to the pack of those sticking to the OG ATT SGS2. No LTE near me any time soon, bigger screen is a minus for me, and Entropy Is sticking around.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BlakDye:
You bring a valid point there my friend. What if they drop us with no support? That would suck bawls! That would make me want to never sign another contract with ATT ever again..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] runtohell121:
If AT&T do drop us.. I would definitely not buy an AT&T branded phone ever.. Guess I'll pay retail for international phones from now on lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dungeon47:
The assured presence of good developers is worth far more to me than a marginally larger screen, and LTE that I may not see during this upgrade cycle. Even with the chance that the Skyrocket will have good developers, as I'm sure it will, the certainty of good development for a device is hard to put a price on.

Considering my Captivate, and how much the development pushed that device from mediocre into something really good and usable, I'm happy to stick right here if that's where the developers I like are staying.

As far as AT&T dropping us, I don't see how that's much of an issue. If you come here, you probably aren't going to be relying on AT&T updates anyway.

In the end, we all have to decide what is important for our personal needs and use. LTEers, farewell and enjoy, the rest of you, we're staying in good hands.