yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] poofyhairguy:
Sure. So far both have been DD5.1.

The media high bitrate file was a 11913 kbps bitrate at a 1920x816 resolution.

The 1080p file was the full 1080p resolution at a 9123kbps bitrate.

It is great news to hear that these play. That means the Skyrocket is more capable than the Evo3D- I wouldn't be surprised to find better gaming benchmark results as well.

More test files on the way. I want to cover what is the average mkv file before we move into weird stuff.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] truciet:
Sweet poofhairguy. I will try to do a "proper" video with all the samples when I can :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] qwertyaas:
I must say, one of the only negatives I have with the SGSII and the Skyrocket is Samsung sticking to 800x480 resolution. Sometimes I feel like I'm using a phone for those with impaired eyesight with the size of the icons...

Nothing changing the LCD Density won't fix though... ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Misterjunky:
New Forum

Ok everyone, here is your brand new "AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket Android Development" forum.​

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1383​

So let's start packing, it's time to move, it's getting too crowded here!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] perrin_wolf:
Traded in my SGII for SR

I got my SGII day one of AT&T release, so I was over the 30 days just a little to trade the phone in. I really like the SGII but the bigger screen and LTE got me to switch. Even though I dont live in a LTE area- it will be 8 to 12 months (crossing fingers) before we get upgraded I wanted to have a phone that supported it. The manager at the AT&T store gave the salesman the approval to exchange the phone for me even though I was over a few days, and even with the restocking fee I got back 18 bucks, the phone is 149 w/ contract. If I had to pay the extra 50 bucks and restocking fee I wouldn't of done it.

Screen resolution isn't an issue least as far as I can tell, only had it 6 hours. I think its just as fast as my SGII since I cant tell the difference at the millisecond level.

I happy with the trade in; least at the 149 price.

previous phones

HTC Tilt

HTC Touch Pro

HTC Tilt 2

Samsung Captivate

Samsung SGII (4 weeks)

Samsung SkyRocket
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
The HTC Vivid looks good too... wish there are more specs on the 1.2ghz processor
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
I really hate the sense UI on HTC...but they have good battery.... I think I may go for the skyrocket if it is a sammy chipset.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] slowpc:
I just got my Sgs2 after trading for it from an atrix ... was totally worth the trade and no need for the lte version at all here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nkd:
1.2 or 1.5 these processor are fast enough. What people fail to talk about is the resolution, trust me I have used the sprint galaxy s2 and 4.5 inch and 480x800 looks horrible on it. I have att and the sgs2 and 480x800 looks pretty good and I cant believe the difference it made. I would rather get the htc vivid over the skyrocket. The resolution is more important on a bigger size screen than the processor alone. I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between 1.2 or 1.5 on everyday use whether it is galaxy s2/skyrocket or htc vivid.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
Looks like the Vivid will be the Qualcomm; at least according to Anandtech

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5031/...-htc-vivid-atts-first-lte-phones-launch-nov-6

But I have to agree with NKD. Larger screen does require more DPI.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Galaxy Note will only be 1.4, not 1.5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kornklown69:
Sprints is 4.3 i thought
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
Stupid marketing upgrade
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kletiz:
Nope 4.5
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Firepac:
So there might still be a chance that it's a 1.5 Exynos? So I guess not all hope is lost.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
Where are the specs listed for the Rogers LTE phone? The AT&T is likely a carbon copy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sulpher:
^^ this

Was about to order the sgs2 reg but ill wait till monday to decide.. (im in an LTE area)

I was reading that the skyrocket has a new radio that only uses one power supply for both radio's thus eliminating the extra size and power usage? Or am i missunderstanding that...

Edit: sorry was gonna post the link to where I read it but I'm too new to post links.. its on cnet under "AT&T: Our LTE phones will be thinner, more efficient (scoop)"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Lawrence of a Labia:
I was tempted at first, but in the end, I can't justify spending an extra $100 for essentially the same phone.

Personally, I'd rather see ICS on the GS2 than have a bigger screen and higher data speeds.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kidneysrgood:
in case I was interested in restocking, could someone post a link on getting rid of root on the current gs2?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 5150Joker:
I'm going to switch. I have until the 14th so I'll go to the store tomorrow and ask when they're getting it in stock. Bigger screen would be nice, just wish it was 720 pixels.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Numbaonei:
I just returned my brothers gs2. It was rooted too lol they didn't even know. Those guys r clueless about phones. I could go around the counter n sell the next customer. Anyway Vivid or gs2 LTE?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dxtra:
I return mines as well patiently waiting for Sunday.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] defnow:
You guys are the first I've seen actually wanting to try it out. I've been reading all day ppl bashing the skyrocket. If you're within your 30 days..why not try it?? If you don't like it...get the gs2 back. No biggy. Ill be using my upgrade for it come Sunday. If I don't like it...ill get my upgrade back... :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 5150Joker:
I doubt they check if its rooted. I'm returning mine with root. Then again I did use a jig to get rid of the triangle and flash count.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vl221:
+1 on that. Planning to return my phone back to Amazon ASAP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kytrauma:
A lot of you guys are saying you will return your sg2 to try the rocket and if you don't like it you will return it for the sg2 again. Att doesn't work like that you only get one trade. If you don't like the second phone you try you are still stuck with it. My wife learned this the hard way. Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
I returned mine with a +1 on the Custom firmware count... apparently they don't check.

Probably only Samsung

---------- Post added at 06:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:06 AM ----------

Was this directly from an AT&T store or from another 2nd party stores? Or a 3rd party electronic stores like Best Buy?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] brent8577:
i'm not interested in switching, but the way i understood was that you have to pay 35 to "restock" the phone you bring in, then the additional 50 + tax on the Skyrocket, and for those of you going back, another 35 out of the refund. i thought you could change as many times as you want if you keep paying 35 and stay within time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kytrauma:
Att corporate store. One of the several reasons we almost always buy from best buy these days. They don't have the,stupid one swap rule.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kytrauma:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/legal/return-policy.jsp

Read the beginning of the third paragraph. It specifically says one time trade.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vl221:
Does that apply for people who upgraded through Amazon?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
I bought my SGS2 from Best Buy... got a 100% refund, and they reverted my account back to "Upgrade eligible" status. It's like I had the SGS2 for a month (28 days) just for the hell of it

---------- Post added at 06:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:55 AM ----------

That's what I htought... I got mine @ Best Buy and it was hassle free return + 100% money back, no restock... no fees
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] marnel47:
Some people just can't stand not having the latest tech. It'll be funny to see how many come crawling back in < 30 days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] david032766:
My ATT store told me they didnt care if it was rooted when i return it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rqthrottle:
I have until the 6th to decide...just when the skyrocket comes out. I'll be past the trade-in deadline when real user's reviews come out...

I was going to return my i777 today, but after some thought I think I am going to keep it.

Not worth the aggravation + $35 + $50 + tax to me.

R
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xlr8shun:
i could give 2 sh*ts.. i dont live in boston, dc, baltimore, athens, atlanta, chicago, dallas/ft worth, houston, or san antonio.

4.5" eh..

1.5ghz eh..

sounds like more battery hog, more money, and LTE which... i cant get, nor do i really need at the moment..

im good thanks..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Longcat14:
Everyone knows the Snapdragon is slower, but that's not the reason why I'm getting it.

Also, on the T989 development, one, kernel source took forever to get released, two, they can't just port everything like you can here, they actually have to do some WORK to get stuff onto the phone. Obviously, all you need to do is port whatever the International SGS II, and while that is better for development, I'm in an LTE area, so I want to take advantage of those speeds.

Sent from my phone. :3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gtg465x:
There is no chance people. Stop grasping at straws. Samsung has never announced an Exynos chip running at 1.5. The Exynos runs at 1.2 or 1.4. If it's 1.5, it's Qualcomm. The skyrocket is literally the T-Mobile Galaxy S II with LTE instead of HSPA+ 42 Mbps. The T-Mobile variant already has the worst battery life of the three American variants despite having the largest battery and the Skyrocket will surely steal that crown with its LTE modem.

FYI, for the people who don't know, our 1.2GHz Exynos is at least as fast if not faster than the 1.5GHz Qualcomm chip that will be in the Skyrocket, so the processor is definitely NOT an advantage for the Skyrocket.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] the2rrell:
yall make it sound like the sgs 2 is a God phone........whomp whomp whomp
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] lorijuan1024:
my gsII is still on backorder so i will see
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] darth_twins:
Check This:

http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/att-4g.jsp?bref=EB2845M081qddo91#fbid=HEDir1KFuA9

it says 1.3 ram????
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Simba501:
Holy ****. If that's true, then my decision is made.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Longcat14:
I know this, others don't.

Honestly. Ill probably get the Vivid, so I don't have to deal with Samsung anymore. HTC > Samsung when it comes to development.

Sent from my phone. :3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jbsg02:
Will this phone not be hspa+ comptible?

edit: just read that it will be able to use hspa+
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gtg465x:
That would be weird and unnecessary. I'm betting it's a typo.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Simba501:
It will, I believe.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] qwertyaas:
I'm still on the Captivate and was going to jump on a SGSII but now I'm stuck between a Skyrocket and HTC Vivid. Just worried about dev support on those two (the Skyrocket if the proc is not Exynos and not many devs jump on it).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gtg465x:
Both will be great phones, but neither will have dev support like the OG AT&T Galaxy S II because neither has an unbranded international sibling with nearly identical specs. Dev support for the OG AT&T Galaxy S II was amazing out of the gate and will continue to be amazing because it's nearly identical to the international Galaxy S II.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] defnow:
Just got it confirmed. It WILL have 1.3 GB RAM. :confused:

My question:

Hey At&t,

In that promotion page you have the Skyrocket with its specs..something caught my eye...

...

16GB internal storage and ---->1.3GB RAM onboard<------

Is that a typo? Or is the Skyrocket really having 1.3 GB RAM? Thanks.

At&t's response:

AT&T You read it correctly! Be sure to sign up for the email updates so that you can be one of the first to know when it's available! :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gtg465x:
Haha, you can't trust AT&T reps. They have no clue what they're talking about. I'll believe it when I see a review showing it or when I see official specs on Samsung's website.

Either way, it doesn't really matter. The original Galaxy S II with 1GB of RAM never runs out anyways.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] the2rrell:
That may have sealed the deal for me....Im in an LTE area, and with 8 mgpixle camera and now the UNECESSARY 1.3 gig of Ram :) i maybe be jumping on board with the Skyrocket.

dont care if its an Off-One, Dev maybe slow....but im coming from an Infuse where Dev is REALLY slow already.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] joshyy_rey:
+1 truth right here

Sent from AT&T SGS2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] lorijuan1024:
+532145451 on that one
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] defnow:
Exactly for what i'm waiting for. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 5150Joker:
Its funny to see all these guys trying to downplay the rocket to justify their purchase. "oh it won't have a fast processor like exynos, oh it won't have 1.3 GHz ram, the screen will be blurry, no dev support blah blah blah."
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Phoneguy589:
http://m.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I727MSAATT#features

Glad I didn't use my upgrade yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sweetboy02125:
That's human been, if you feel someone did a trick on you , def you're trying to convince yourself that, that's ok :-p. I'm not going to switch also cause I don't want to pay extra $200 (got the ATT S2 for $50) for the LTE even I do really like it :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 5150Joker:
You got a nice deal. I paid full price at AT&T so the additional 50 isn't a big deal. Hopefully my local store has it on the 6th.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
I love how there are no details: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I727MSAATT-specs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zenopzz:
I was tempted, until I found out that 4G will not be in my area and AT&T has no plans of expanding to my area. It's not with the trouble.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nicktuso:
I'm sticking with my GSII that I bought last month, I could return it today or tomorrow if I wanted to but I am just going to stick with it. Talked to a good AT&T rep at a local store who is actually a phone junky himself, he agrees with me but AT&T has still said nothing to their local stores...so don't be surprised if you call and they don't know wtf you're talking about.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 5150Joker:
One of the local stores I called doesn't have any ETA yet. I'm sure the bigger corporate stores will get it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] moonlightme:
So, Entropy, what you are saying is that since I own the SGS2 currently, there is no real reason to upgrade (in your opinion)?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Mind you, all the devs that jumped ship here are not going to the Skyrocket because, to us, the Skyrocket is even worse news than the Infuse.

At least the Infuse had a nearly identical CPU to the I9000/Captivate.

No, we've "been there done that" with phones that had wacky hardware with zero commonality to anything else on the planet - and we're tired of dealing with it. The less your phone has in common with international devices, the more you become AT&T's ***** when it comes to updates. Look at the Captivate - that device would be dead as a doornail community-wise without the I9000. The Infuse - it didn't have an international sibling to bring stuff from, look where it wound up.

Then look how far the I777 came in only 1-2 weeks thanks to the I9100.

If you want to know what life with the Skyrocket will be like, look at the Infuse and T989 forums. The T989 for the similar hardware, the Infuse for what happens to an AT&T phone without a robust international sibling.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 5150Joker:
Thing is I don't really use community roms like some here do. The only thing I did was root my phone so I could tether. Other than that, out has what I need already. I don't care to run the ROM flavor of the week. Maybe my thought process will change when ICS is ported but for now roms have little to no impact on how I use my phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] moonlightme:
Thanks GTG for the straight information...took 8 pages of reading and 1 post (yours) to decide there is no point in getting the Skyrocket.

Again, thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kornklown69:
Whoa 1.3 yes
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] marnel47:
Don't forget about how long it was posted that this phone had an FM radio and 32 gb internal memory, none of which were true.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] the2rrell:
this i know E, its why i would want to get the Galaxy Nexus, but i WANT to take advantage of the LTE offered in my area. if i was certain that the Nexus would have it i would DEF wait......i am a Flashaholic, i have nandroids of everything out there on the Infuse..lol so i will miss that if i go this rout.

but LTE is almost a must for me now. or else i wont feel like im really upgrading. and im paying FULL PRICE for the skyrocket or the Nexus. so i dont know man. im still weighing my options.

but i have learned alot from you E ( from just reading ), so i do take what you say into consideration.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gtg465x:
Not trying to justify my purchase. If I legitimately thought the rocket was a better purchase I could do an exchange and pay the $50 difference, but I'm not, because in my opinion it's not a better purchase. People are discussing the pros and cons and I just thought I would chime in. People who aren't sure which to get probably find a little dev input to be useful.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...z-exynos-4212-dual-core-mobile-chip-20110929/

ETA:2011
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] PeartFan40:
Umm, no it's not the Exynos CPU. It's a Texas Instruments CPU.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gtg465x:
If it has a 1.5GHz exynos I will consider jumping, but I seriously doubt it does. I think Samsung would be making a huge deal about this phone if it was the first phone to use that processor. Not a peep from them though and it goes on sale this weekend.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] PeartFan40:
I agree 100%
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
I actually don't want to jump, but I live in an LTE area, so if that new exynos is in, then I'm jumping aboard. I called Samsung and AT&T, they have no details on the Skyrocket. Guess we all have to wait and see. :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pdubcramp:
The article you quoted says middle of next year in devices and implies that samples may not even be ready yet. But hey, would be a nice and totally unlikely surprise!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
Maybe the Skyrocket is gonna be a test for the new Exynos
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Droppa:
I was tempted to return my AT&T GS2 but it's got a snapdragon s3 not the exynos. I'll pass.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
Source? Also, I just read a article on how the Skyrocket will have an Nvidia Tegra o.o
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sssjk:
1) I live in an LTE market but don't see any reason to upgrade. I'm not a heavy user of data so the faux 4G works just fine for my uses (Casual e-mail, facebook, twitter, web).

2) I'm loving my batter life right now. Getting 2+ days with my normal usage.

3) Most of the dev support is going to be on the current version, not LTE.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Lootes:
You will not see the 1.5 Exynos in this device. We are 4 days away from launch, these devices have been in production building up stock to ship for some time now. If this new hardware was in it, they would be making announcements left and right. Plus the article stated samples would be ready by year end with them finding their way into retail devices by middle of next year. That is how it goes. For this device to have this chip, the samples would have been ready months ago.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
No, that's the Galaxy Nexus. There's a SLIGHT chance the Skyrocket has an OMAP4, but all the evidence points to it being a "radio swap" variant of the T-Mobile T989 - which means Snapdragon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mickey4mice:
Agreed. Pixel Density of 220 does not look good on 4.5 inch display. I love my S2, but I wish it had 720p resolution, this whole compensate low-res with over-saturated color crap from Samsung has got to stop.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] RojasTKD:
Not really, MY SGSII is pertty AWESOME, and there's no TLE in my area (as in most areas). Plus I'm a little afraid of taking a hit in the battery department.

What I really want is a Samsung Galaxy NOTE. It's kind of a SGSII on steroids.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
LOL... You really think a company is going to do a public test of experimental silicon?

How can you HONESTLY think that a major international flagship device like the Note would "only" get a 1.4 GHz Exynos when a minor niche-market device like the Skyrocket would get a 1.5 GHz Exynos with no fanfare whatsoever?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
I was mainly joking, but thanks for the hate rant :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AllTheWay:
I will let you know what the chipset is when my Skyrocket comes in. Should be on Thursday / Friday.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mkosmo:
That would be awesome. I'm curious to see is a trade is worth it. I don't believe anything on the internet about this phone: too much speculation and fud.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MikeyMike01:
Not a chance in hell I'd downgrade to that phone.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rareness4:
I'm tempted but since I just got mine last week, I'll wait to see hands-on reviews and dev support for the Skyrocket then make my decision
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Skv012a:
Upgrade to a new handset? No. Get that 2000mAh battery from sammy? Yes!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] gtg465x:
I hadn't used a Galaxy S II variant with the 1.5GHz Qualcomm processor yet so I dropped by a T-Mobile store to mess around with one today. It is noticeably less smooth than the Exynos versions... browsing, scrolling, and just navigating through the UI. If you are very insensitive to jerkiness or stuttering it might not bother you, but it certainly killed what little interest I had in the Skyrocket. I actually went to another T-Mobile store nearby because I thought it might be an issue with that particular device. The second one was the same. I even rebooted the phone to make sure it wasn't just bogged down with background apps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] arctia:
This whole thread is ridiculous. The whole thing can be decided in a simple if-else.

IF

-live in new LTE area

-want higher connection speed

-willing to pay

THEN

-get new phone

ELSE

-do not get new phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] poofyhairguy:
That is WAY too much an over simplification. This is much better:

If you want LTE - Get Skyrocket

If you want 4.5 screen - Get Skyrocket

If you want a WAY better GPU - Get regular SGS2

If you want a WAY better DSP - Get regular SGS2 (aka can play Blu Ray rips)

If you want better battery life - Get regular SGS2

If you want more ROMs and ICS faster - Get regular SGS2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
When's that 2000 mAH Coming? Didn't they just release that for the i9000?