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[Epic 4G General] poit:
Not everyone is as obsessive about their phones as we are. Not everyone is comfortable rooting their phone. It's not even his phone, it's his wifes! He doesn't owe you or us anything. It was interesting to see that there may be phones being released with EI22, now leave the guy alone. Or do you think that insulting him even more will get him to want to help us.

Sometimes this forum is just embarrassing.
[Epic 4G General] Whosdaman:
I agree to disagree
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Listen, I have a wife. Theres way more truth in this than you would think. It's someone else's property that he has to make sure works tomorrow. It's also someone else's choice who may not be flattered or amused by the sentiment of those who serve to gain. You guys should be offering up flower and choclate donations. Instead you sound like needy kids and there are enough of those to go around in this world of all ages.
[Epic 4G General] edufur:
Considering this was a sprint repair, it is just a matter of time before someone else gets one, right? I bet if a few devs stocked their phones and walked into a store and said it is acting funny and asked for a factory flash / update, they might walk out with EI22.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
You just named a number of people who I know well enough to know they would not view someone that way if they did it without feeling fully comfortable doing so. Please don't drag our best devs around like that. They'd love the software, but not if it was obtained in some nasty way.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
What are you gonna do with a hundred thanks? Tuck em in your crotch and walk around a grocery store? Lol!
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
You need this to survive?
[Epic 4G General] sephiroth009:
How is it an insult when its basic observational skills. He said "you'd probably get EI22 elswhere before you get it from me." He obviously doesn't see why we all care about it so much, how many people it would help. If I appear to be a "wolf" so be it.
[Epic 4G General] qbking77:
If it could be safely done.. I would send my epic to him and he can get his number on my epic if he would send me his with a clean esn after he got his number transferred to mine.
[Epic 4G General] jbadboy2007:
This is some poor old guy who knows nothing of what this would do or how to use or simply he doesn't care about his phone the way we do. It is his choice just because you want verification this is legit and the goodies is no reason to be wolves even though I would gladly appreciate any effort for a system dump or nandroid of this. But still be gentle and maybe he will help us. Anger or being mad at the guy is not going to make him verify or want to give us what we want.
[Epic 4G General] worldwidepmp:
Honestly I don't care about Sprint's official GB anymore, I'm running EH17 with no reboots now. They could not put it out for all I care.
[Epic 4G General] AproSamurai:
I'm going to be honest, if I was in his position you wouldn't get ****. Whether it's real or not is beyond the point. All of you being childish and playing the holier than thou' image is pointless when you're *****ing about something you yourself doesn't have. He doesn't have the cure for aids, if he does have it. He doesn't have the means to fix poverty on this planet, if he does have it. He has an update for our phone which we should(in an ideal world) be getting soon, if he does have it. And if he'd like to think about it, that's perfectly fine.

"If I was him I would.." Means jack ****, because you're not, and no one cares. If you wonder for a second why it can feel dead within this section it is merely because the tension of people being quick to disbelieve and being bitter over a material object is more than aggravating but pathetic, and disheartening. If the man had any intention of dumping the build which he could have had when he first came onto the site, none of you who are *****ing right now would deserve the pleasure of it.

Real or fake, no one is above treating a person right or wrong because they disbelieve something. If you agree fine, if you disagree, fine, but don't be an asshat over something so simple.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Wow, naughty children. Thread to be closed soon.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] MrTimz:
Mods please close thread. With all respect due to Lonny, this thread is now a flame war. I suggest no one else post, or else I will go on a reporting spree. You have been warned.
[Epic 4G General] BeerChameleon:
What is wrong with u people?!?! If its real he has no obligation to share it as he doesn't want to root his wifes phone, I mean i know its easy he just doesn't want to risk losing important data and needs his wife phone to be stable as she probably uses it daily. Unless you are experienced and know what rooting is and how it works. For a lot of people they don’t care, just leave the poor guy alone and if he decides to share it and get help let him decide, don't cry like babies over a software update.

Jeeeez!!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Just leave it be David. I'll let mods do proper handling of this.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] jnadke:
I never really got the point anyway. We have a fairly stable EH17 on our own. And I don't believe nandroid backs up the modem files, which would be most useful.
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Holy christ what a thread. Exactly why I went to the Touch. Ungrateful kids...

Oh yeah, one more thing.

IB4L!
[Epic 4G General] Qwallace70129:
The only problem is that ppl realize how selfish the world is. He was just fine in the sprint forums. He went out of his way to come here and say id love to help but f**k you. Im sorry about the way some ppl have spoken in regards to him. I don't know him to not like him personally .. but to come here and show himself with no intention of actually doing anything is pretty messed up.

Again, I feel somewhat bad for the turn this thread took....but it only happened because he essentially came here and spit in ppls faces. Hopefully you guys understand that ppl are just frustrated with spending hard earned time and money on a device that isn't going to be supported for the length of their respective contracts.

Im happy with my ACS ICS EH17....but I know some ppl want better without having to spend $500+ while on contract to have a phone that just works.

{GOD I LOVE MY FULL KEYBOARD! !!!!}this post would have been Hell on a touch screen
[Epic 4G General] edufur:
Before coming to his defense, I have to say... he obviously knew that he had something very valuable, otherwise, what was the point of posting pics about it. Knowing it was worthy of pics means he knows something about the community. He knew he was dropping chum in the water. So, either it is real and he just wants to see everyone suffer, or it is faked and he is laughing his trolly little ass off. I don't care much either way... because if it is real, another will surface.
[Epic 4G General] steviee7:
Thread closed.
[Epic 4G General] AmericanJedi001:
Lonny, first of all, you're welcome. I try to be civil and explain things clearly! Second, it's not "such a a big deal," but as I warned you, when there's chum in the water the sharks, trolls, and assholes begin to circle. Third, yes, there are a number of very experienced developers on here, plus plenty of guides you could read that would tell you everything you need to know -- granted, they're a bit technical, but the good ones are step-by-step and assume very little. Regardless, I understand that you're a regular person, with a regular life outside of geeking out over phones and as you clearly stated, it's a low priority. Fourth, I appologize for encouraging you to come to XDA -- that obviously did nothing but stir up the douche-bags who think that because someone else has what they want, they're owed the same. I shake my head in disgust. At this point, I hope you never find the time to dump the ROM. Just know that these jerks are the very vocal minority, whereas the civil majority here would like to have it, but won't judge you (too harshly, anyhow ;) ) for having a life and not getting around to it.

Shane "AmericanJedi001"

You guys are truly pathetic. I have known for a couple decades that the internet is (pa)trolled by immature douche-bags, but you guys have really disappointed me. If you would have taken the time to read all four of Lonny's posts (3 at Sprint, 1 here) you might have been able to discern that he is not trolling, as you are. True, he has "chummed the water," so to speak, but originally it was just to get confirmation from the community for his own enlightenment, as he stated. Again, in your haste to cry foul because someone else has the toy you want, you overlooked that.

Pathetic. I originally was mildly optimistic that Lonny would see the light and let somebody with experience help him dump the ROM, but at this point I wouldn't blame him one bit for saying to Hell with it! At the expense of the rest of the community, I for one now hope that he doesn't do anything: we won't really care, and you will be taught a valuable life lesson -- good things come to those who wait. (And aren't assholes.)

I hate myself for contributing to what is amounting to a pathetic, childish flame war, but it needed to be said. With any luck, this thread will be locked soon anyhow.
[Epic 4G General] Zeinzu:
Waaaaaaaa!
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
This is a much better attitude

Personally, I'm not trying to call BS, nor am I trying to prove that it is true. That has been my point all along - that we don't have anything more than our opinions and speculation, and that it's a waste of time (and more importantly, forum space) to argue over the validity of the story.

The only people I have attacked are the ones that assume things that cannot be assumed using what we do know (which is next to nothing) - especially when we have two opposing assumptions being supported by the same details. It's obvious that one side has to be wrong, because the two sides disagree with each other (it can't be real and fake...), but we don't have enough proven facts to make that determination at this time.

Instead of insulting each other, hoping it will get your opposing viewpoint to back down, just let it be - the end result will be the same (albeit more peaceful) either way

Sent from my CyanogenModded Epic
[Epic 4G General] musclehead84:
Same reason as me. Guys he.was just trying to llet u.all know that ei22 might be the final version and that it might come soon. He is.not obligated to do anything. Its his phone. We should thank him for sharing the information. Maybe he doesn't want to root his phone. There isn't a tar file available for him if he messes something up. Then he would be on ec05 like the rest of you guys. Quit trolling guys (not talking to all if u but the ones who are talking ****). Have a good day.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I would have expected the latest to actually be a EJ something since OTA's usually come a couple of weeks after final test. No one should be disrespecting Lonny for his choice and nervousness about his wife's phone. I read for a month before rooting. And am always nervous as hell mesiing with my GF's phone. Now it is comes to show he was actually faking it, is really a Graphics Artist and single, I say Hang 'em.....but until then...respect!
[Epic 4G General] mtwow789:
umm.. its been three days and still no dump?
[Epic 4G General] PythonFanTN:
I'm sorry, but this is a completely ridiculous reaction. Because he took the time to come here as a completely new registrant to XDA, after being pointedly invited (i.e., it wasn't his own idea/motivation that brought him here to begin with), and was open and candid about explaining his position, you interpret that as trying to just spit in people's face (or worse)?

You're right about people realizing how selfish others can be....you're being a fine example of it yourself. Sure, he didn't have to come here...and in the proper perspective, if that fact were getting any respect at all, you wouldn't have all these knee-jerk childish emotional responses from people simply because they didn't get what they want. The fact he took it upon himself to come here in a new and foreign environment and explain his position should be respected, even if someone doesn't agree with it.

That

would be the unselfish and mature thing to do. Its a sad commentary that many couldn't bring it upon themselves to take the higher ground in that regard.
[Epic 4G General] CapsLockKey:
Meh, who cares if the guy shares it or not. If he's telling the truth than it means that EI22 must be the "ready for primetime" build and it's just a matter of when it will be released.
[Epic 4G General] RandomKing:
Exactly. Needy, greedy, ungrateful %%%%%%%s.

I'd like to have the improvements of Gingerbread nice and stable on my phone as much as the next guy. I spend hours working on my own phone, but even I don't have the time to care THIS much.

Here's hoping it's legit, but whatever if it's not.
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
If Lonny did get EI22 then he's right. We'll all be getting it soon. So be patient.

Regarding him helping the community out...

I have a standing rule with other people's phones. I do not do anything that they don't ask me to. Best case scenario is that they don't care. If you've done something to help them without them wanting it they don't care. If anything goes wrong with their phone you are on the hook.

Furthermore, even though I have been flashing custom ROMs for years and have never bricked a phone I won't root or flash my wife's phone. I am happily married. 28 years and counting. Get the connection?

Lastly, this thread gave me a good laugh this morning. A couple of times I was imagining a poster stomping around his bedroom and yelling, "Mom! Make me some gingerbread!"
[Epic 4G General] MrTimz:
@Lonny, don't take this as me trying to get you to dump the ROM, <<<or this as reverse p psychology.

@AmericanJedi001

I don't want to quote your last post/quotes, but well said man, sorta harsh in some area, but true. I also want to say there are some true well spoken and educated people in here going to bat for Lonny, great job guys. I have to say I'm on the fence, ofcourse I want it, but I also think he has every right to say no, and as he has been trolled, even more reason not to.

I think its real, and I think Sprint has good reason to hold off on the update, I don't know this reason, but it must be what they think is a good reason. This reason could be...

1. Sprint is have great sales on the sgs2, and why risk people jumping ship from the epic to add to this number.

2. Sprint is overwhelmed with calls from users and iPhone 4s problems/network problems/ other phone model problems, so why add to the problem at hand.

3. Sprint found another bug and put Gingerbread back in the oven and got out the Raid.

4. Sprint thinks releasing small bits of code/semi proof (picture from "Lonny") is just hilarious :(

5. Its in its final stage of testing (even though OTA testing was finished 2 weeks ago o_0 ) and its coming soon, playbook may or may not prove this today.

6. Sprint says its coming bugs or no bugs, and it just so happened to get in the hands of a Sprint employee who thought it would be great to share this to a lucky few (cool factor).

Either way, I see a trend in those 6, anyone else see that?

I myself think Lonny is golden in any case, he should feel special in a small geeky way, he has something we can't get or use; Do we feel this way when others get to use trial phones for review and come here to tell you about phones (which we all want to know about), but do any of us feel hatred for that person for not sending the phone to the first person that wants it?

It will be here soon,maybe not tomorrow, or the next day, but it will happen.
[Epic 4G General] Neckberg:
Nice. I pictured the same thing. Also, I agree that if he does have it, we will probably get it soon. I have been on CM7 anyway, so it doesn't bother me at all.
[Epic 4G General] Qwallace70129:
Did you not read???? I simply stated that I understand the frustration of alot of people. But you want to pick and choose what you respond to. ADULTS get the whole story and don't flame others for trying to explain why ppl felt, well, played. But I get it. At least I said it intelligently. I stated my opinion and apologized in the midst of it. You get mad at us for not respecting how he feels.....and in doing so you are no better than "us"(since im tha Damn ringleader or something).....ppl and their hypocrisy .....smh

OH YEA...

.please...next time you quote someone ...... use the entire quote....it makes a more even playing ground for everyone you thought were gonna come pat you on the back for replying the way you did...

just my OPINION
[Epic 4G General] muyoso:
I know this may be surprising to you, but not everyone cares about imaginary internet points. I guess when you have nothing else in your life of value you have to rely on internet points to ease the pain.
[Epic 4G General] phdeez:
So, whats the playbook say?
[Epic 4G General] RandomKing:
Those points are very important if you want a bigger e-peen!

But seriously, I have 400+ thanks... But I'm pretty sure almost no-one here even knows my first name! All hail Anonymous! :D
[Epic 4G General] squshy 7:
Doesn't come out until tonight
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
So put up a bounty for the dump...
[Epic 4G General] sniperkill:
I just read thru this whole thread, and all I gotta say is, you gotta be kidding me. Look, I love my phone just as much as the next guy, but there are many more important things in life than our phones. Were all human here, why don't we act like it, and be polite to eachother. No matter what.
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Is it still behind a week?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Who knows...

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] spf2722:
Well said, I am all about updates, but man some people take it a little far. Get yourself a girl, or a guy, or a hooker or something. Last I checked having the best and latest ROM doesnt get you laid, so invest your negative energy else where.

Engage slippyfist!!
[Epic 4G General] Stoney60:
I haven't had a single scratch on any of my gorilla glass phones. A protector is a waste of money

On the other hand, a body glove is a marvelous investment. I wish I could find one with a belt clip for my ET.
[Epic 4G General] mtwow789:
All I want to say is that, if I had gotten legit EI22 rom on my phone and give the dump to devs, I would feel wonderful. I would feel that I made many people happy and satisfied. I would feel I became a hero, who saved world of epic owners.
[Epic 4G General] othan1:
Had mine charging last night on my computer table when the dog grabbed the cable on accident and flung the phone with force onto the porcelain tile. Not a scratch on the phone. As hard as it hit, I expected to see some damage but I couldn't even find a dent from where it smacked on its corner.
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Not everyone cares about online status! He doesn't come here every day, trying to help people. Some people just go to the internet for clarification, which is what he did. No one would have cared if he'd have asked on answers.yahoo.com why his phone had EI22. Guys, the lwlet man decide what he wants to do, you have zero control over him.

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] andygallo:
I think you are wasting your time. There are some people who simply cannot temper their wants with empathy and logic. It reminds me of a child throwing a temper tantrum: they do it because they can't control or deal with their emotions.

I come to this forum to find answers to my questions. I lurk a lot but will pop in to lend some help if it seems I have information that others don't (which is admittedly rare). Then I come across threads like this with people like...well, I already covered that. It's times like this that makes me a little embarrassed to be associated with XDA.

Why isn't this thread closed yet?
[Epic 4G General] hoffman1984:
This whole thread... Just WOW. lol

Seemed to me like someone was just giving people a heads up... and who ARE all these trolls?!?! lol

To the trolls (you know who you are):

"we need a dump of that phone"

1.) Do you even know how you would go about "dumping" a phone without an XDA thread explaining the step by steps with littler picture and a video?

2.) Once you got this "dump", what would you do with it?

3.) You'd be nobody's hero, 'nor would you be... lol

4.) Leave the man alone and WAIT like the rest of us... This should atleast be some (if true) verification that bigger and better things are in the Epics near future.

I normally don't partake in threads like this, because i hate seeing people waste their time on answering to such stupidity. I'm more a fan of doing something productive... Asking productive questions... But i guess it's OK once in a while, eh?

Back to work! Thanks for reading! =P
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
People, enough of you are "the computer guy" to know that any time you do anything to someone's computer they don't understand, even when THEY ask for help, let alone if you talk them into it, everything that ever goes wrong on it, forever, "They're pretty sure it was that [thing] vita10gy did to it."

It's not his phone, it's his wife's phone, and that's a much bigger distinction than some of you are making it out to be. As far as he knows there's a 90% chance he'll break it to help 5 people get a slightly more official build than EH17, which, thanks to the source, and nubernal, is about as usable as we can expect to get.

It's not nothing, and he would have the gratitude of many strangers for doing it, but he doesn't owe a, to him, unknown community of hackers a copy of his wife's phone.

Now, if we pony up enough dough to get them a new phone in the very very unlikely event something does go wrong, we might make it worth the trouble.

All you people screaming and yelling about how you're dying to have this commit $5-$10 to the cause, and we should be ok.
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
You guys really having me wanting to rip that screen protector off and let the pretty screen shine in its full glory. I do have it in a rubberized case though to keep things off the screen if I put it face down on the table.
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
Yeah, I don't get them myself. They make almost no sense to me. You see so so many of them that are crap, misapplied, scuffed, peeling, etc. Yes, the sticker "absorbed" that time you dropped the phone a year ago, but you've been looking through a ugly mark ever since, so what's the difference?

The only reason to have them is to "ensure" you have a screen that's pristine, so applying something that is going to negatively effect viewing somehow makes no sense. They cause the problem they purport to solve.
[Epic 4G General] ugothakd:
Why not tell him to take a screenshot instead of a crappy blurry photo?

sent from my cm7-ified epic
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Need root for that, don't you?

Sent from my Samsung Legendary 4G, a Universe UTES Phone, running "two. two"
[Epic 4G General] castro08:
Nah there an app that lets you it say no root needed but i always been rooted so i have no idea if and how good it works
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
Oh wow! If he decides to dump it for us its his decision. I want to believe the guy as it seems he has no reason to lie, and he took the time to come over here and explain. Some of the trolling I saw in this thread was ridiculous and from some people I would have never expected it from. Having this dump isn't the end all for us. We already have the released then pulled source code. That alone should help more than most of what the dump can provide us since most of the remaining issues are on the kernel side. Getting the modem and file structure from the dump is more a bonus to us than anything else.

Sent from shane6374's Epic via Tapatalk
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Thread closed.
[Epic 4G General] jfharden:
Closed by who?