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[Android Software Development] AnonVendetta:
I tried with just the 3 button navbar at the bottom. Even then, LMT doesn't trigger reliably. More often than not, it doesn't appear.

The navbar isn't desirable to me because it doesn't hide and insists on always being there, with the exception of fullscreen apps.

LMT comes up with Android's native gestures enabled, but again, it's unreliable.

I think there must be something else interfering, but I'm not sure what that something is.

In another test I took off my hard case, but it doesn't seem to be affecting my results. I can reliably trigger the native gestures with it on. So LMT shouldn't be any different.
[Android Software Development] AnonVendetta:
I thought one of my magisk modules might be interfering, but it seems that's not the case. AOSPMods is the only one I have that can tweak gestures/nav settings. Anyway, I disabled them all and tested again. Same results, unfortunately. It must be down to the rom. But I think all newer GSIs have the inbuilt gestures, so regardless of which I choose, this is going to be an issue. I'm really not looking forward to going back to stock rom.

Even with just the navbar enabled and inbuilt gestures disabled, I can't get LMT to reliably trigger. So if the gestures are the culprit, it doesn't explain why this happens even with them turned off.

I've noticed the main tab of LMT has a lot of settings, many of which have no clear explanation of what they do. Maybe changing one of those will help? And which ones? That's really all I can think of right now.
[Android Software Development] noname81:
It's tricky to help you here, since it works for me on Android 12 and Android 13 stock rom. So it might be related to a mod or the rom you're using.

Try to increase e.g. the value for activation are thickness. LMT will, after setting this, show you the activation areas as black boxes, so that you can get an understanding about its current size.
[Android Software Development] kurrupt_1:
Just updated my S22 Ultra to Android 13 , pie only works one time after I turn it off and them back on. Any clue what can be causing this specific error?
[Android Software Development] noname81:
I uploaded a beta with the Android 13 fix to a post some pages back. You can install this update and LMT should work again.
[Android Software Development] AnonVendetta:
Sounds like you're having an issue similar to what I'm experiencing on an Android 13 GSI.
[Android Software Development] AnonVendetta:
Do you have a link to that post? I thought the APK on the 1st page is the most recent one. I've been using the APK from that all along, not knowing you've posted something newer.

In the future, can you attach these beta APKs to the OP so users don't have to dig for them, or not notice them because they're buried in the thread? In a thread that's 700+ pages long, it's very easy for things to get lost. It should be no problem to have both the stable and beta versions attached.
[Android Software Development] kurrupt_1:
Works like a charm!

Thank you.
[Android Software Development] AnonVendetta:
@noname81: Found it.

LMT v3.3 Beta Android 13 Fix

Please link to this post in OP so that it can be found easily.

I posted that I was having issues on A13, this beta doesn't even get mentioned. But when someone else running A13 posts about an issue, it gets brought up in the next post replying to them.

This mostly fixes my issue, now I can get it to activate consistently. Still need to play around with the activation area thickness a bit.

Now I'd just like to find an OmniSwitch APK that works. Used to be one of my fave mods. I used LMT to trigger it all the time.
[Android Software Development] hydroxylicacid:
Thank you!
[Android Software Development] DM_Sledge:
Just started using Google docs on my phone and I am reminded why I stopped. Editing any file breaks lmt pie navigation. Home works but task switcher falls silently and back tells me to enable accessibility. Disable and reenable accessibility and I can navigate again until I edit another file.
[Android Software Development] ssuuddoo:
@noname81, you are our hero. Thank you very much for caring, working, trying, keeping. LMT is a supreme launcher helping me with my everydays work. I've had issues when I updated my phone (S22U) to official Android 13. Reading the forum, posts of others and downloading your fix in 3.13 the problem is solved. Thank you very much. I add some screenshots from my LMTs. ;)

Thank you again. You've got my today's prayers 🙏🏼. Greetings from Azerbaijan. +:)
[Android Software Development] klark1kent:
@noname81

Android 13 user unable to achieve working Root privileges using LMT v3.3 a13_fix. I grant root permissions successfully using latest Magisk and su is recognized in su manager but LMT doesn't reflect root and unable to trigger Root shortcuts in Pie menu (i.e. KAA, Menu shortcut)

I've uninstalled, wiped app data, etc.

Runtime Permissions:

Root: false

Accessibility: true

DrawOverApps: true

ExternalStorageRead: true

ExternalStorageWrite: true

PhoneCalls: true

UsageStats: true
[Android Software Development] noname81:
Hm, I run this LMT version on a Pixel 7 Pro with Android 13 and can get root fine. So I assume it's related to your setup. Are other root apps working?
[Android Software Development] klark1kent:
EDIT: Turns out, and I'm no developer but feel confident it was improper folders/file permissions in the app data dir. I'm going to assume it worked with Root on the previous APK because I must have installed, confirmed root, and then like a lazy f*cker, restored a previous backup in order to get the pie configuration as it was previously. Not sure to be honest but it's the only thing I can think of that would have weird permissions persist after wiping data from settings. Not sure to be honest but long story short. Root functioning as normal again.

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Other root apps are working fine - no problems. The odd thing here is that when I originally got the P7P I had the normal apk installed, the version that was producing the PIE issues prompting the Beta. On that version I'm pretty sure I actually was showing Root in the LMT menu and able to trigger Tasker Tasks and built in root functions when the Pie menu did come up briefly while still in LMT.

I'll keep tinkering with it and if I figure something out I'll let ya know in case it comes up again.

Quick question though, as I'm not going to lie, I was running Nougat before this on a samsung rom so this is crazy different for me, but do all debug apks populate in the App Compatibility Changes menu under Developer Options? If so, do you have any of the non-default selections enabled on your device?
[Android Software Development] coconutxyz:
is it just me but it doesnt work in settings app or any system ui? i am rooted a12 lineage
[Android Software Development] DiamondJohn:
its a security thing, apps cant draw over settings. eg they could trick you into clicking nefarious menu items.
[Android Software Development] coconutxyz:
thanks
[Android Software Development] noname81:
fyi: I don't know when exactly this was introduced, but in Android 13 you can activate overlay apps in settings menus in the developer settings.
[Android Software Development] coconutxyz:
would that make lmt trigger-able everywhere? as a gesture app i would like it to be called everywhere because i usually disable the default gesture to create a seamless experience
[Android Software Development] DiamondJohn:
Actually, I just noticed that my current custom rom DOES show my LMT style pie :mad: Maybe it was on my google Pixel stock ROM that it was disabled. I also read the security issue/block somewhere else.

PS: Im now on Bliss A11, but I am sure it was also disabled on the stock A11 pixel rom.
[Android Software Development] noname81:
The setting is called: Allow screen overlays on settings, so this applies only to settings screens.
[Android Software Development] IronTechmonkey:
Just curious, where else can you not invoke LMT, and are you referring to LMT-Pie, LMT-Gestures or LMT-ISAS? That overlay setting seems to have been introduced at Android 11, and on my A11 devices with that setting enabled there has been no place that I cannot use LMT-Pie, hence my question.
[Android Software Development] noname81:
This limitation only applies to PIE. Gestures and ISAS are more low level implemented and doesn't have this problem. The only other area, where overlays are not allowed is the security screens as e.g. lockscreen.
[Android Software Development] DiamondJohn:
I have a question regarding the " low level implemented " of gestures (possibly more of a rant about google). I have a Pixel 4a running A11, using a custom launcher. I was really annoyed when I disable the stock launcher, my system gestures stoppled working.. I would of expected that it would of been part of he OS and bot handled everywhere by an app (ie the launcher, which would be high on the list of customizations) and not the system.

Is thye5r4e something I am missing?
[Android Software Development] noname81:
Honestly I never checked how Google implemented the system wide gestures. I would have guessed in inputflinger, because here you can still decide to recognize a gesture or to dispatch the touch events to the foreground app. But as you said, there is this coupling to launcher.

When I implemented gestures for lmt, I decided to directly read the touch events from the kernel side by side to Android. This makes it really system wide but with the downside, that you cannot sync the gestures with app gestures and they can interfere.
[Android Software Development] DiamondJohn:
And thats how I would of expected any self respecting developer to do it. But not google... I guess every programmer has their first day at work. Dont even get me started on how they broke the previously working non-embedded album art....:mad:

PS: I didnt check, I just observed I lost my system wide gestures when I disabled the stock launcher, and they returned when I re-enabled it.
[Android Software Development] DroidFreak32:
Edit- Misjudged LMT's capabilities.

Just a suggestion if it doesn't take too much time:

How about revamping the pie colors menu to also give us direct options to pick up various system colors?

So we could choose from a list of SystemAccent, SystemPrimary, SystemBackground etc whose values can be picked directly from the system theme. I think LMT already does that in A12+ but the default colors could be rearranged.

(i mean if LMT is hardcoded to use the "Primary" color for the icons, we could change that to system "Accent" color)

Dont mind this if its hard to implement, LMT is a godsend as it is now
[Android Software Development] Natakranta:
Thank you so much!

You're absolut hero!

LMT v3.3 a13_fix.apk solved pie not activating on OnePlus 8T after update to OOS13.

Root actions (screen off & open Power Menu) are working if anybody needs confirmation.
[Android Software Development] hugozo:
Waiting for this to jump into oos13

Thanks for the test and thanks to noname81 for his great job !
[Android Software Development] Gandalf19:
I have OnePlus 8T too and LMT v3.3 a13_fix.apk works quite well.

There is a problem: every time I reboot phone, LMT is not running and every time I must activate it in "Setting/General/Activate LMT".

There is a solution ?
[Android Software Development] noname81:
Yes, nice idea. I will definitely implement/change that to your implementation. Give me a little bit time though. LMT is just a fun project and I'm only investing some hours a month. I wish I had more free time for fun hacking but my topics at work are also very interesting and in-depth… :D
[Android Software Development] molesarecoming:
same here dude. i think the only people in the rom scene that have it all figured out are kernel devs lol.
[Android Software Development] noname81:
Is it kernel dev'ing or kernel kang'ing? Like everywhere there are a lot really good guys but also a lot of others... :D
[Android Software Development] martinaif:
This is so great... thanks for your work!! It's just what i was looking for. There is one thing that's missing to be perfect for me, is there any chance to get it working on the bottom of the screen? I feel it much more confortable to use it where there belong in the first place... thank you very much!!!
[Android Software Development] noname81:
Look one page back. I implemented it already and will release it in some days...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Android Software Development] martinaif:
Ok, sorry for ask topics already discussed, thanks thanks thanks....
[Android Software Development] noname81:
Absolutely no problem... :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Android Software Development] bunklung:
Wow, really cool molesarecoming and noname81 are bouncing ideas.

Check out this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vS1LXM8Y3w

Super snappy.

I think I read Google Now swipe up is working too.
[Android Software Development] noname81:
Uploaded v1.7 to the OP with bottom pie support. I also added the expanded pie item activation area discussed earlier today. Enjoy!
[Android Software Development] regis.stration:
ATT Samsung galaxy s3 working on Input Device 6

Moved from Moto Atrix to Samsung GS3. Got v1.7 working great with Input Device 6 setting.

Happy again!

Thanks
[Android Software Development] bunklung:
Working great!

I used the bottom pie and found that the default setting hurt my brain. My brain expects the icons to be mirrored.

ps. show keyboard pretty please :)
[Android Software Development] Enhanced:
Wow awesome stuff. Just tried it and I think the bottom pie works a little better. Takes some getting use to but I think bottom pie makes sense.

Thanks for the continued work!
[Android Software Development] stkiswr:
Fantastic....this works on my nabi 2 tablet with the first device settings, no issues
[Android Software Development] scott62185:
Can someone explain to me how "ISAS" work? I set the bottom ones (back, home and menu), but can't see anything happen when I swipe up from the bottom...

Loving this LMT stuff!!!

---------- Post added at 06:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:22 PM ----------

Also, I noticed the keys in the pie are mixed up when I use them on the bottom (as compared to the left side). I mean, it goes back, home menu on the left pie and menu, home, back on the bottom...
[Android Software Development] BobbySoft:
Power Longpress action?

Power supply Long aggressiveness How should the action be set up?
[Android Software Development] stalkachu:
Phenomenal app. Thanks so much. Only things to report is that, yep, buttons are reversed in terms of 1 through 5 km and can I request a fixed center gravity for bottom edge? Just because neatness is awesome.

Thanks again!
[Android Software Development] eliaspizarro:
bug killing fg app

Plz prevent killing touch service thought long press kill fg or add a black list
[Android Software Development] g virus:
For everyone who said pie order is reversed in the bottom of the screen, you can configure that the way you like in pie settings. To get stock order configure that way: pie item 1: search, pie item 2: menu, pie item 3: recent apps, pie item 4: home, pie item 5: back.
[Android Software Development] Notorious544d:
Has v1.7 made the pie more responsive, seeing how it now has some paranoid android code?
[Android Software Development] eliaspizarro:
can you add a differents forms of layouts for pin popup, for example, like half moon, inversed, square, etc.
[Android Software Development] Natakranta:
I didn't notice. Sometimes I do t reboot phone in weeks or months.
[Android Software Development] Gandalf19:
Can you try ?
[Android Software Development] Natakranta:
So I rebooted. LMT started automatically after reboot. Just have to give it some time. 10 seconds maybe, till it reaches its place in startup queue.
[Android Software Development] DiamondJohn:
Have you tried a boot script to automate the restart on each boot?
[Android Software Development] Tha_Dynasty2049:
How do i get 3.3 a13 🤞

Edit: i had to jus stop being lazy smh lol

i got it by the way but thanks all
[Android Software Development] IronTechmonkey:
LOL, FWIW I was checking to see how far back in the thread that post had gone which was further than I had thought. Glad you found it. Reports from others seem to indicate that it works on Android 13.
[Android Software Development] jay_jay_n:
I can confirm on the Zfold3 with Android 13 update the 3.3a 13 APK allows me to have LMT running. Originally after the update LMT activation only showed up once then disappeared after even though it shows LMT running. Thanks for the update!
[Android Software Development] DroidFreak32:
Is it just me or does anyone else have this issue of "Pie Status Info Colors" not setting the DIM color properly?

I just recently updated to A12. But it is a custom ROM so it's possible my ROM is buggy.

I have my DIM color set to Pitch black FF000000:

But the Pie View shows a white background:

On a sidenote, @noname81 I noticed tapping on the Info screen gives various debug options :p but it seems I cant change the values ?

EDIT:

It probably had something to do with my wallpaper! I just changed my wallpaper to something else and the DIM is back to normal.

Then I changed it back to what it was before, and the issue wasn't reproducing :(

Anyway its all good now!

EDIT2: Not really important, but if you have ISAS or GESTURES enabled, the app crashes when applying any setting. Reopening solves it though

Spoiler content hidden.
[Android Software Development] xdadev_user11:
noname81, can you include a feature to trigger pie controls by swiping the edge of the screen like how gravitybox pie controls does it?
[Android Software Development] Tonus1:
Found the fixed apk by noname81 at this post

Many thanks man !

Guys, remember it's a good time for a (even small, we are many) donation to great free softwares projects.
[Android Software Development] SwimDrewid:
Samsung Fold just updated to 13...

Link to the fix: https://xdaforums.com/t/app-root-lmt-launcher-v3-2.1330150/post-87562815

Thank you @noname81 !!
[Android Software Development] AaronCompNetSys:
Fold3 here as well. Good point about re-donate to Noname! Link in first post.
[Android Software Development] remidesroques:
Thank you so much @noname81 !!!! The fix works on my pixel7pro!! God I'm sooo happy and relieved, certainly got addicted to your app that i have been using for years!

I just donated 10 euro again because you deserve it so much, maintaining this app for so long. MERCI!!!!
[Android Software Development] Der Namenlose Held:
Hi! Lmt 3.3 works on Android 13. It sadly doesn't work in my system settings though. That's a little annoying but I can live with it.

Thanks for updating though, it's awesome that I'm still able to use this!

EDIT: Nevermind, this fixes it https://xdaforums.com/t/app-root-lmt-launcher-v3-2.1330150/post-87714141
[Android Software Development] Fanagoreca:
Just updated to Android 14. Activation area stoping functioning after 'one app launch' , need to open LMT , then "area thickness" , then is the same.

My device is Xiaomi.
[Android Software Development] noname81:
I didn't even know, that early access for Android 14 started!? 😀 Do you mean Android 13 instead? Look a little bit above for a link. I posted a fixed version a couple of pages back.
[Android Software Development] Fanagoreca:
I'm sorry, my mistake. Updated, works fine. Thank you for the answer and for the app! Using it years.
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
Have TARDIS - Will travel ☺️🤪
[Android Software Development] Elopat:
Guys, I've been using this fantastic app for years. Thank you so much, @noname81!

I'm currently on Android 13, and it is working perfectly, except for one point: i cannot use long press on pie. Any suggestions? Is there some workaround I'm missing?

Thanks!
[Android Software Development] noname81:
What is the issue here? You define a long press action and you don't see the pie switching to this? Or is it not executed? Thanks!
[Android Software Development] Tha_Dynasty2049:
Delete Post. Found Fix For Displaying Over Apps.

FYI: I don't know when exactly this was introduced, but in Android 13 you can activate overlay apps in settings menus in the developer settings. --NoName81
[Android Software Development] juanrra242:
i have been using LMT for years ,now in a xiaomi mi9 with a12L works flawessly .Have purchased a xiaomi mi9se ,installed a13 and first thing i do is to root and install LMT ,but in this case ,it doesnt work , when i activate it ,it appears to work ,but just it shows once , second doesnt .....see video. Dont know what to do ,all permissions ok , as always .....please help.
[Android Software Development] noname81:
Use TARDIS and go back to Oct 12, 2022. Then wait for the next entry in this thread. Voila! 😀
[Android Software Development] juanrra242:
thanks a lot .SOLVED with fix . Didnt know what tardis is untill i googled it !!!! you save my life !!
[Android Software Development] Elopat:
Sorry for the delay in my answer! My device was stolen and I had to wait for some time before getting another...

Maybe I was doing something wrong, on this new device I already installed LMT and everything is working flawlessly.

Thanks once again for your hard work and for benefiting all of us along those years!
[Android Software Development] Lodberg:
EDIT: I found a solution. Go to settings - apps - LMT - hit the 3 dots in upper right corner and chose alow restricted settings

I've been using this awesome app for years - and donated a few times.

I'm currently running the 3.3a13 fix on my OnePlus 8 pro (none root, android 13).

Today the accessibility stop working for LMT and I can't turn it om again. It's greyed out.

Any tips my way would be highly appreciated!
[Android Software Development] gkai:
I use it on a very similar device (one+10 pro, oxygenos13, unrooted) and managed to make it run with accessibility on. However, with oxygenos13 gesture navigation it's extremely difficult to trigger the pie. Not sure how to get a better experience without root, as going back to onscreen button navigation is not something I want to do.... I guess I will need to try root at one point, but I can not afford to loose banking apps and I am not yet confident I can fully hide root...

Anybody managed to make lmt pie and android inbuilt gesture navigation coexist nicely without root?
[Android Software Development] Lodberg:
You could try my area settings, they work great for me:
[Android Software Development] gkai:
Maybe you posted your settings in a previous post, but here the screenshot shows only default values for most entries, not your actual settings...Maybe you could post your values (or an edited version of the LMT.xml that store them IIRC, it may be easier)...
[Android Software Development] xxzxzx:
What is tardis?
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
Time Travelling phone booth from Dr Who 😂
[Android Software Development] Whiskey103:
Hello, trying to set up LMT on my currently unrooted S23 Ultra and I can't manage to get my custom apps icons to work.

My setting are set to use customers icons, I've select them in the PIE area, tried to edit the user image search pad etc but no luck.

Anyone else managed to get custom user images working on Android 13, S23 Ultra?
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
Don't know exactly what you mean by "custom icons" - Do you mean from an Icon Pack or?

These are the icons that I have on my S20 Ultra One UI V5.1
[Android Software Development] Whiskey103:
Yes, those are icons. You can select "user images" behind the icons in PIE setup.

There you can select personal icons/images.

I used custom icons since my S10, but now it somehow doesn't work.
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
I've never tried to use custom icons on LMT - But the icons that I'm seeing are sort of the Default icons - Themed by HEX Installer it seems?

I use a custom Icon pack for everything else.
[Android Software Development] Whiskey103:
Yea, I did some reading back in the thread and found someone else who can't get "user images" to work.

Bummer, I hope noname can look into it if he finds the the time later on.

It was really nice to have theming wise :D