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[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Archangel:
You can only have one, not both. I never used anything other then cwmr. As for the flags, that's for only tdj roms when he adds them.

From my fist to your face, enjoy!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
There is a free version of the 4ext recovery installer. Its a damn fine recovery.

The flag on derek's ROM's works by adding -wipe to the end of the name. So MyNewROM.zip would become MyNewRom-wipe.zip.

FYI, the shorter the name of the ROM, the better chance of the script catching the flag.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NatsuDragneell:
Thanks but can't i just do a full wipe flash rom boot up then flash the dscam and battery mod zips

MyTouch HD (Black) - Virtuous Unity 2.39/Demonspeed v7/Beats/Bad Screen (DAMMIT)/Good Emmc
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] estallings15:
Sure. The built in wipe does a very thorough job, but 4ext has a wipe all feature as well. Do both if you'd like. If you boot between flashing zips its a good idea to wipe the cache before flashing your extras.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3v1lkr0w:
Is there somewhere where you can get APKs for apps? I am on a Samsung Infuse 4G running the MIUI 1.10.28 and it has Market 3.1.5 on it but i have to uninstall the market update every time I want to download a new app. Since I lost all my apps rooting my phone its a hassle. Any help would be appreciated.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] st@matis:
you can download apps for free here -> www.4shared.com

just search for the app that you need(not all apps are uploaded in this site)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theonew:
Remove your link. That site hosts warez which is not allowed here and neither is the discussion. See here: http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?a=81 (#6 in this case).
[HTC Sensation] casrocks:
I have a Tmo US Sensation 4G Currently running the Android 2.3.5 sense 3.5 version of android Revolution HD, and just came from insertcoin 3.4 I believe. Im fairly sure I would have the same problem on any sense 3.5 rom. I did a full wipe and clean install for both roms, and after wiping and super wiping no go. Others don't really seem to be having the same problem as me (when switching to Front-facing camera it force closes, and the quick launch short cuts arent there)

After messing around with it I believe it has something to do with my titanium restore I do after flashing and rebooting 2x. anyone have the same problem or know what I can do to resolve it? Thanks in advance, and I really need to keep my data (or at least most of it) so not using titanium isnt much of an option as a whole.

Thanks so much!
[Venue Pro General] Tornado54:
I am interested in getting the DVP. It has 16GB comes with a keyboard and the reviews all seem to be very happy with it and the build quality

Which leaves me to wonder why isn't it more popular? The focus seems to be getting the most attention. Is it because the other phones are available on contract and the DVP is not?

Are there any issues I need to look out for? This will be my first Windows device. I am upgrading from a Nokia E71. My reasoning is that I will need to anyway upgrade later once the 2nd gen Mango devices come out a year or so later.

$250-$300 is my limit. What do you guys think? I live in India so contract phones are out for me.

Thanks in advance guys!
[Venue Pro General] lemonspeakers:
many reasons.

1. dell screwed up from the start with available dates. they kept pushing it further and further back. people got tired on moved on.

2. when they finally did ship to customers, the devices were plagued with horrible bugs which took forever to release an update.

3. this device cannot be found/seen anywhere but from dell.com. its not even in retail stores. Most t-mobile reps don't even know about this phone. On top of that most people don't want to buy something they haven't held in their own hands before committing $400 bucks (at that time).

4. there is no developers support behind this device. Chevron won't work on this device. etc. no registry hack. blah blah blah..

5. it is pretty thick, not to mention heavy, for a device at this particular time in technology.

its sad that the dvp is such an amazing device in terms of build quality. now that dell has fixed all those issues, its practically a flawless device. but because dell FU*ked up to begin with, that's what they get... thus having to liquidate their inventory just like HP sold all their touchpads for $100 bucks!

btw, the dvp wont work on t-mobiles unlimited $5 internet plan. the imei has been locked down. same goes for using with the att version under t-mobile as well.
[Venue Pro General] Bongo2k:
Fix all those issues? They broke the compass and haven't commented on when they will fix it or whether or not they will be adding internet sharing over wifi.
[Venue Pro General] Tornado54:
uh oh. In that case I better stick to the Focus. A pity really I would have loved to get a phone with a keyboard.
[Venue Pro General] bbowman:
I agree with Lemonspeakers' comments. Developing and producing a brand new cell phone has to be quite an expensive project, it is mind boggling why this phone wasn't marketed as well as the Samsung Galaxy series or at least the myTouch series. The only reason I can think of is that they knew the phone was rushed and that they couldn't adequately support it which was a big complaint by many XDA users. I'd love to know what Dell's R&D costs were and what their projected sales goals were and what the actuals are.

all this aside, I LOVE my DVP and Mango iced the cake. We have many different Android phones here are work and I constantly hear from the users about how they have to reboot on a regular basis. I've probably NEEDED to reboot my phone just a handful of times in the past 11 months. Everything about this phone is so smooth. The only thing keeping me from recommending it to a power user is the lack of (easy) ICS. I can't send out our mobile workforce with a device that can't be tethered to, they are too dependent upon internet access. Other than that, this is the best of the first generation WP7 phones without a doubt.
[Venue Pro General] magicsquid:
I agree with many of the comments above.

Dell seemed to have difficulties producing the phone and it also shipped with some nasty firmware bugs. One of these involved a DMA conflict between the SD card and Wifi. Using Wifi caused the phone to lock up - for me, Wifi was unusable until the end of July!

These issues were resolved a few months ago and my device is very stable and reliable.

Other things to be aware of are:

- the device is thicker / heavier than the Focus. However, you are getting a good keyboard, so this is understandable.

- the camera is mediocre and doesn't have image stabilisation hardware. Easy to blur photos if your hands aren't still.

- the phone will probably not support internet connection sharing, unless Dell are working on a secret firmware update :)

Personally, I think the DVP is a great device. If you would like a Windows phone with a keyboard, I can highly recommend it. In my opinion, the Focus and DVP are the two best first-generation devices, so you can't go wrong either way.
[Venue Pro General] Standa:
I love DVP's design and build quality, but why I cannot recommend this device to other people around me:

1) as mentioned, very bad camera for high end device. Did Dell's engineers even try to use this camera before they used it in the real device?

2) a lot of problems with the first devices, slow updates (...and it continues: non-working compass for example)

3) my DVP have some hw problem with volume buttons and display sliding, but my service tag is not valid (other users have the same problem), so I cannot send it back to Dell in this time

A lot of people wanted DVP when they saw it, but these problems forced me to not recommend this device to them, because its quality is roulette, not sureness.
[Venue Pro General] yeungl:
Although I am using DVP, just do not use DVP. You will be disappointed.
[Venue Pro General] petard:
I find it odd that everyone is so disappointed with their DVPs. I just got mine a few weeks ago after most issues have been resolved it seems. The only issues I have is my compass doesn't work (like every DVP on Mango) and the phone seems to be worse at holding a signal than my Desire Z. It's great otherwise, definitely worth the $200 it cost me. The other issues I have are with the OS itself, not with the phone.
[Venue Pro General] magicsquid:
Would be more useful for the OP if you explain why.
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Wouldnt swap it for any other WP7 device out now, personally. Great screen, keyboard, build. More than good enough till something special from Nokia arrives. Agreed though, botched launch, spotty support, limited availability make it a hard sell for some. If you need a solid WP7 device on the cheap though, still recommended.
[Venue Pro General] dilzo:
Hasn't the lumia come out yet?
[Venue Pro General] efjay:
Not in a version compatible with T-mobile US 3G. So no use to me.
[Venue Pro General] slight22:
Understatement of the year. I loved my DVP until it proved impossible to crack and i had to violate my warranty to upgrade the memory, thats BS. YOu want a phone, don't buy a DVP.
[Venue Pro General] abowlby:
The DVP doesn't work on T-Mo prepay?
[Venue Pro General] stratax:
im thinking about selling my atrix and buying this.. i had the HD7 before my atrix and i loved it.

personally do you guys even use the keyboard?

heres one for pretty cheap, dont know if its legit. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Venue-...0923683910?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3a6c379046

also, all i am seeing about the mango update is you have to force it.. i dont like the sound of that, does that mean dell doesnt support this device anymore?

or do you think i should wait for the radar? looks pretty nice even though it has a smaller screen.
[Venue Pro General] bbowman:
i use my keyboard whenever i have to type something that's more than a sentence or two. since i use mine for work i frequently respond to e-mails and i use the physical keyboard all the time.

The Mango update can be applied to the DVP without force, the DVP fully supports Mango.

the only thing holding back the DVP from being perfect is the lack of (easy) tethering
[Venue Pro General] Nokser:
Maybe bay this phone for any developer, maybe Cotulla, then he porting more system image for DVP ;)
[Venue Pro General] stratax:
i dont tether anyways, so that isnt a problem for me. radar is too expensive right now anyways.. for some odd reason. i would get the titan but the pixel density is ****. lol, it seems every WP7 has a draw back -_-
[Venue Pro General] petard:
I use the keyboard ALL the time. I never use the on screen keyboard. There isn't much reason to, you can even open the phone up with one hand. Typing on the screen with one hand could be faster though, but with 2 the physical is always faster.
[Venue Pro General] JC_Agga:
Simple, Dell treats Venue Pro as unlocked phones. They don't sell it in tmobile stores, no one knows that Dell is now, slowly but surely moving into the mobile space, and lack of ads.
[Venue Pro General] stratax:
Thanks. I ask because the last keyboard i used that was physical was the mytouch 3g slide way back then.. i BARELY used it, only when i wasn't being lazy and knew i was typing something long like a email, it was too much of a pain to flip the phone horizontally every text cause i get lots. i had my hands on a blackberry torch for like 10 minutes and the keyboard was freaking amazing on that thing, think the keyboards are simaller? also do the hinges get loose or worn out? thats one of my biggest complaints about physical keyboards.

I cant really choose from the radar and this, the radar has a amazing camera from the new sensor, etc. has ffc, better speaker, better dpi, unibody construction, and will be supported more. but i can get a DVP for $150-$200, while it has a bigger screen. I have not seen a radar below $300 which is complete crap. even thinking about getting the samsung focus flash. its a bit cheaper than the radar.
[Venue Pro General] bbowman:
i just ordered a Radar for a coworker, it feels and looks like a toy.
[Venue Pro General] stratax:
how would it feel more like a toy than the DVP since the DVP is plastic and the radar is unibody aluminum? i think it looks amazing and every review i have read says it feels great too. i wish i had a tmo store where i live so i could check for myself.
[Venue Pro General] petard:
The keyboard feels great. I haven't really used a blackberry keyboard much so I can't compare, but it feels pretty similar to all the samsung qwertybar phones I've used (BlackJack 1, 2, Jack, Epix). The keys are very tactile and are domed.

I have only had mine for a month or so, but the hinge seems fine. I haven't had hinges give out before it was time for a new phone. The DVP is really cheap and pretty damn good.
[Venue Pro General] stratax:
Yeah i havent really used any samsung keyboards haha, just HTC and played around with BB.

i just cant belive how its so cheap, every other WP7 is much higher, well the omnia 7, radar, lumia (super expensive), others.
[Venue Pro General] AnyMal:
Dell managed to make a phone that feels premium but looks cheap. It's slippery as hell too and that curved screen multiplies glare when used outdoors. I just sent mine back to Dell.
[Venue Pro General] stratax:
thats what cases and non glare screen protectors are for
[Venue Pro General] AnyMal:
And how many DVP cases are there? Just one.
[Venue Pro General] stratax:
there is otterbox, some aluminum ones and skins and more on ebay. more than one
[Venue Pro General] petard:
You're comparing it to brand new phones. It is 1 year old now. That's why it's really cheap. I believe it was around $500 or more when it came out.
[Venue Pro General] stratax:
omnia 7 isn't new at all., and its expensive on ebay, same for HD7s ( wouldnt want anyways). rest are cheap though, which dont interest me. it was still one of the cheaper ones when it was released. thought it was $400 retail. the fact is, it still compares to newer phones when its so cheap. it would suck to get it and dell release a new one though after. lol
[Venue Pro General] bbowman:
yes however the textured rear panel, "chrome" sides and curved glass give it a very elegant feel, not to mention the quality keyboard. I think the biggest reason I don't like the Radar is because it is white. Plus the odd plastic bottom cap breaks up the unibody feel to it.
[Venue Pro General] stratax:
i love the curved glass, i wish more phones had that. and the textured panel is cool. now the chrome on the other hand ive heard not that great things about it. since its plastic isnt it? i love the color white so thats one of the reasons why i want the radar xD i just hate how on the borber of the screen you can see black line like where the screen ends. on the nokia lumia 7xx (dont remember the last two numbers lol) you can't see that. well they probably put that to make it more "unique", you know how htc is haha. also for when you sit it down its laying on the rubber/plastic parts so it doesnt scratch the aluminum maybe
[Venue Pro General] drizo72:
I am using a DVP 16GB with Mango on it for a month now.

It is simply THE BEST phone I've ever had, period. Ok, the compass does not work, so what? most LGs have the same problem with Mango, but you can easily live without it. Navigation programs don't have a problem with it, they work just fine without the assistance of the compass...

I believe DVP is a hidden gem. I hope dell understands that and keeps selling it and supporting it.

It looks fantastic, it works fantastic and super fast, no hiccups, it's built quality is superb, gorilla glass, amoled screen, terrific sound from the speakers, exceptional signal quality...

I would never believe I could say that a non-traditional cell phone mfg has made such a good product. But it's true. It's just that Dell don't have the necessary channeling, but who cares? I love unlocked, unbranded phones on generic features, just as MS has designed them to be.
[Venue Pro General] petard:
Exceptional signal quality? I must have a dud because it's pretty bad compared to my HTC Vision which itself was worse than my Nexus One which was worse than my Motorola Milestone.

I also have pretty bad battery life, not even 20 hours.

I do love the phone though. I just wish another WP would come out with a keyboard. For AT&T it basically is between this and the LG Quantum which is lame.
[Venue Pro General] dilzo:
If all you're phones have bad signal then it's ofcourse the network providers fault
[Venue Pro General] macjr82:
If the DVP launched right now, with a working compass at retail. It may fly off shelves, if people aren;t turned off by the bulk.

That said, it's been such a long road getting to it's current state it has bad word of mouth and a bad taste in the the mouth of long time users. Even though it's fine today, I still feel jilted from to suffer through the wi-fi issues, the freezing, the lack of updates. I've since moved on tot the HTC Titan and given my phone to my Bro-in-law. He loves it. Ther are things I miss about it. namely capcity and keyboard, but I am much more satisified with my Titan overall. DVP did turn it around at teh end, before I jumped, but it was too little, too late for me.
[Venue Pro General] petard:
No, as they are not as good as the ones I had before. Comparing them side by side, my older ones have better quality. I have moved to phones with worse signal quality 3 times in a row now. My Milestone had better signal quality than the Touch Pro 2 before it.
[Venue Pro General] jelliottz:
I just traded my HD7 for a DVP and I really like it so far. Its a nice, well built phone.

Has anyone tried to modify the housing yet? I know the chrome speaks to many, but I would like to de-chrome the back cover. I haven't been able to find anyone who has painted theirs yet.

Also, anyone on TMOUS have the 7740 update yet? Its not a deal breaker, but I would like to have up to date software.

Everyone I've shown this to loves the phone. Its pretty cool to have such a rare device.
[Venue Pro General] Ineedtoys:
Funny how people in this thread are recommending the Radar instead of the Dell when the Radar is a stripped down phone without a compass or gyro?

Oh and the biggest problem on the DVP for me was the lousy battery life. 1400mAh just isn't good enough for the big screen, and the poor radio struggling to hold into a signal just made things worse. I barely got 8 hours out of mine so it was useless as a main phone. Shame really as I loved the rest of the design and form factor.
[Venue Pro General] sublimee:
I just ordered a refurb DVP from Dell for $180! Hope the battery life isn't too bad on this, since I really love the form factor and hardware from the reviews I've seen so far.
[Venue Pro General] jelliottz:
my battery tends to last 8-12 hours. This is fine for my as I'm never far from a charger between my desk and car.

Also, coming from android phones in my past 8-12 hours of battery life is 2-3 times longer than I use to get. No complaints here...
[Venue Pro General] Nokser:
Hmmm Anyone knows, where i bay bricked dell venuepro?

Thanks
[Venue Pro General] domineus:
they just had some for 180-220 usd on dailysteals and 1saleaday

I have a broken DVP but screen is cracked. I'll try and find a way to ship though (really broke now)
[Venue Pro General] khan.dharvesh:
i wil share my experience.

1. i was an early buyer and it had the horrific 'freeze problem..i tried replacing my sd cards(which was the unofficial fix) but it never worked!!!

2.wifi was virtually useless with the above said problem

3.it eats up data, which means if u r in budget 3g plan, u r screwed

4.voice quality, very basic purpose of a phone in dvp is pathetic.

5. after 5 months, it gave me a strange problem. it just doesnt ring!!!it doesnt play music etc.initially restarts used to fix the prob. and later it stopped..then i searched internet and got a weird solution..press on space button hardd!!!! and wow, it worked. but its weird..it happens once in every 2 weeks

6. i stopped using it..and no ones ready to buy,...ive kept in my showcase!!!spend 29000 rupees to buy this utter crap!!!

---------- Post added at 04:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:45 PM ----------

u must be kidding!!! earphone speakers are pathetic..reception is horrible
[Venue Pro General] MJCS:
Sorry that you got a lemon but My DVP has worked fine since I got my "dev" phone replaced a month or so after release.
[Venue Pro General] Ineedtoys:
I suppose the root cause is that the world moved on while Dell delayed the launch and then took even longer to fix the WiFi bug. So all the (user and pro) reviews that were around while there was popular interest in the device exposed its early flaws and people got fed up of waiting for them to be fixed and went elsewhere.

Add into that the design decision to skimp on the battery, and a below par radio which shortened battery life even more, and you had a device, which while it looked pretty, just wasn't up to a "Pro" job.

Move forward to the present day, with the knowledge that the compass and WiFi tethering will never be fixed, and no further support or updates from Dell, and you have a dead end (but bargain priced) device that appeals to a few enthusiasts only. A real big shame, as there is still no other device like it, but the blame for its failure lies fairly and squarely at Dell's door.
[Venue Pro General] pogfanatic:
I think the DVP is a great phone so far. Just bought this because my HD2 crapped on me and I am liking it allot.

It was one of the cheaper phones at fry's and the UI seemed cool and seeing how the Galaxy nexus is a bit out of my budget at the moment thought I would give WM7 a shot and impressed so far. The build quality seems good. I missed having a keyboard so that's great also. Until reading this thread I didn't even know there was a compass. I like the screen also everything looks clean.

My only gripes with the phone may just be issues with WM7 itself and not the phone. My negatives so far with the phone/OS is how the browser does not support flash which I was used to watching and messing with some site that use flash on my hd2(was using CM on it). I don't like the camera most pictures i took so far looks like ass. Lastly not a big gripe with the phone but it definitely show's lag when the avatar shows up when in the live area which I love by the way since allot of my friends are on live and I can bother them when they are online.

I think Dell blew it on marketing this phone. I forgot it even existed until I saw it in a Fry's add and remembered oh it looked cool on a picture I seen online.
[Venue Pro General] bbowman:
i would LOVE to know the exact reasons why Dell didn't market the hell out of this phone. all it needed was some more effort from their developers and a healthy marketing budget and this phone could have dominated.
[Venue Pro General] Ineedtoys:
I don't think marketing was to blame. After all, the looks and unique, ultra convenient form factor pretty much sold itself. No, in my opinion it was the developers and engineers (ODM?) who let the whole thing down, by not having it ready on time and then releasing it with major faults which then took months to fix. So by the time they actually had a fully working model available it had already been written off by the networks, reviewers and potential buyers.

Similar thing happened with the Streak, it was universally panned for shipping with outdated Android 2.1, and by the time they got the Froyo update out, no one but a few die hard geeks were interested.

And of course, just like RIM are doing now, you then got the CEOs in their ivory towers blaming everything else but their own mismanagement!
[Venue Pro General] Nokser:
Anyone build custom ROM?
[Venue Pro General] MJCS:
No. I have no experience in building roms.
[Venue Pro General] Nokser:
Not good ...
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XxhTcG2uSERxX:
whats the differences between cynongen mod 7 & cynonged mod 7 nightlies