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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] djkinetic:
If you're a heavy data user u shouldnt be on ATT anyway as their data plans are the worse out of any of the carriers. Not everyone wants to carry an extended battery that will add significant bulk to the phone. Yes there will always be devs out there, however the skyrocket probably won't receive as much Dev support as the I777 due to the fact there isn't an almost identical international version available. It really boils down to personal preference as always, and for me the I777 will do fine because I prefer having a phone I can easily mod/customize. I live in an LTE area (Chicago) but I've had no use for it as HSPA+ is fine for what I need mobile data for; 11 mbps is plenty fast enough to stream a video or browse the web. With that said I don't believe I will be switching.

Also who says you need to be locked into a phone for 2 yrs, that's your choice, you can choose to purchase a phone at full price before those 2 yrs are up, whether you choose to do so is completely on you but ATT is not locking you up when it comes to phone upgrading. Personally ATT gives me 1 upgrade every year so at worst the longest I'd ever need to wait for a phone is 1 year.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nicktuso:
That makes me love my phone so much more. Thanks as always.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
Those with grandfathered data plans won't get charged. If they try to take it away, say you won't buy it then.

Someone email AT&T and ask what processor it has, so all these damn rumors stop.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] CarlWinslow:
Athens, GA LTE

Anyone know why they decided to support LTE in Athens? Google was no help. I figured I would be keeping my SGSII despite the introduction of the skyrocket, cuz there was no way a college town of 100,000 people would be getting LTE. This complicates my decision a little bit. Go Dawgs!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Weezal657:
Ya, I talked to them already about keeping the grandfathering, but just haven't made the decision on whether it is worth it to keep ATT(because of the grandfathering) and go with either the skyrocket or SII, or move to Verizon because of the Nexus.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
The new plans cost the same as the old plans ... I bet unlimited will still be grandfathered.

Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ChrisM47:
I understand all the cons of the Skyrocket........ but if you live in one of their limited LTE areas what would you do?

........

I have my current GSII I love it and I have the option to exchange for Skyrocket I don't know what to do. ;[
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sweetboy02125:
My suggestion. Who ever live in LTE area, and be able to exchange, do it. It's pretty dam fast for only $50-$100 more. The other things you won't be able to notice at all (screen, processor....).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
That was back in May. Months later, HTC is still selling devices with locked bootloaders, and their bootloader unlocking procedure makes it VERY obvious you have done so and is clear grounds for warranty voiding.

Contrast to our easily defeated CBC counter...

The Infuse has a beautiful display, and that's its only redeeming quality. Well, the second being it has a reasonable amount in common with the original GalaxyS.

However, the Infuse's cons:

Froyo-only until Rogers released with Gingerbread (months)

Rogers Gingerbread had a number of fatal flaws that were impossible to workaround (15 FPS video recording, no HDMI support)

Rogers Gingerbread also had a flaw that was difficult to work around until the AT&T Gingerbread leaks gave some hints (TCP buffer size settings)

The Infuse still has:

No HDMI support with any custom kernels unless you go back to Froyo, it is now October 2011 and the device was released in May

Bluetooth support for Cyanogenmod WAY behind that of the GS2 due to its wacky Bluetooth chipset (see why I hate wacky hardware?)

The T989 saga is pretty bad:

Still no custom kernels due to flaws in the Samsung source release - and since it's such a small marketshare device, community complaints don't put as much pressure on Samsung as I9100 issues do

So the Skyrocket combines the T989's problems with AT&T's update rate problems that made the Infuse a developer's nightmare, and adds to the Infuse's development deficiencies by sacrificing ALL of the commonality the Infuse had to any other device out there (except the T989). A developer's nightmare becomes a user's nightmare, unless you as a user are happy with being two Android major releases behind on a device that is only approximately six months old. One major release behind is fine considering ICS's newness - but the Infuse would still be on Froyo if not for Rogers, and note that Rogers hasn't released a single update since the device's initial release. If Rogers had released the Infuse closer to AT&T, it would've been with Froyo and Infuse users would be stuck with Froyo.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Lawrence of a Labia:
I was wondering about that too. I figured there had to be a connection between UGA and AT&T. This might explain it.

www att com/gen/investor-relations?pid=18750
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] djkinetic:
Not true if you have pretty sharp eyes you will notice a difference in the screen. Yes LTE is fast but there will be better phones out later in the year that support LTE for sure. If you have a GS II now theres no absolute hands down no brainer reason for you to upgrade. If you're here on XDA chances are you like to mod/customize your phone, that alone should keep you from jumping to a Skyrocket. On the other hand if you don't mod your phone/want roms like CM7 MIUI or an early Dev port of ICS/need LTE Speeds now for whatever reason then by all means make the jump.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] greenlitego70:
SGS2 vs SGS2 Skyrocket

I just got my SGS2 less than a month ago. When I heard they announced the SGS2 Skyrocket was coming out, was a little upset that I didn't have the latest and greatest, but through these forums, I think I have learned a couple of things that I am just looking to confirm:

1. If I don't live in an LTE area, I will really notice no change in my data speeds, other than the HSPA+ I am currently getting. If they aren't planning on LTE service where I live there is really no point.

2. The phone will be bigger than the SGS2 I currently have. (I originally had the Infuse and I exchanged it for the SGS2 because it was smaller)

3. My current SGS2 will be compatible with Ice Cream when it comes out.

4. I have better dev support for my SGS2 now and will continue to have better or at least just as good of dev support going forward

5. Other than the processor being a bit faster, the screen being a bit larger, the LTE capability, and .3GB more on board storage, there really is no point in going through the hassle of rescinding my upgrade and returning it only to get a phone that is marginally better, if at all.

I am the first one who will tell you I like the most current tech stuff, but I think that even me being a noob to all of this, it just doesn't seem worth the effort to switch phones.

Your thoughts?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] djkinetic:
1. Correct no LTE coverage no LTE Speeds, you will be using HSPA+

2. The phone is marginally bigger due to the bigger screen.

3. The SGS II is compatible with ICS, just need devs to port it, or ATT to release an update. Also our version has NFC so ICS Beam should be supported.

4. Look at the Dev progress here compared to the T989 (T-mo version of the S II) Our device is in almost every hardware aspect identical to the international as such Dev progress and support is a lot faster and easier to come by.

5. The CPU has yet to be confirmed aside from it being clocked at 1.5, so depending on what CPU is chosen (Exynos/Omap/Snapdragon) that 1.5 might not be faster than the 1.2 Exynos in our S II.

Definately not worth returning an S II to get a sky rocket in my opinion
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
Finally, someone posted a legit argument to not buy a skyrocket instead of just flaming and crying. +1 thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Other than a small disclaimer: The I777 will be 95%+ compatible with ICS when it comes out for the I9100.

The only thing I'd expect to be problematic is NFC - but that isn't even properly functional in our current firmware.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
Argh, fine. I'll stick with the S2. I guess LTE isn't worth it until the technology gets more battery-efficient. The large and well-knowledged dev community also appeals to me, in case something goes wrong again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] defnow:
The sg2 was not sold in southern tx...(At&t anyway)..anyone think the skyrocket was the reason? ...since san antonio is LTE?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tsolin01:
SG2 was sold in Dallas...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Stevenrogers_420:
Dallas is not Southern Texas. Its North Eastern.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] david032766:
But its an LTE market
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] poofyhairguy:
The GPU is the big difference.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pdubcramp:
2 hours until my 30 days are expired. Since I live in NYC and have no clue when LTE will make it here, seems like my decision to stay is a fairly easy one. Thanks for the opinions, all!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] the2rrell:
i have not found a price for the skyrocket with out contract, anyone have an idea......700 800

i almost bought the UK galaxy note today and that was ranging around 950

just want to compare things
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Stevenrogers_420:
Should be $600ish.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
I doubt it.. Because I talked to a friend in Dallas, and the SGS2 was released on Oct 2nd. Since Dallas is also LTE site
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] xAnimal5:
"WITHOUT CONTRACT" How about you read dude. He said "without contract". If you're gonna act like a jackass, make sure you're right first.

We do not know, you'll find out when it gets released.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] HushH:
I would guess 600 range. And I've seen prices for the Note in the 750-800 range.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vl221:
I think I saw the Samsung Note for low $700 on the Note subforum.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] the2rrell:
thanks guys, i have been looking and while i love the Notes specs. i may just wait till it hits the US and get the skyrocket till then its only 600ish....lol

always appreciate the time. thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vuoflfan:
This actually seams to have the specs of what the SGS 2 was supposed to be to begin with,,,before the US versions came about....How did ATT end up with the smallest screen version?...as far as ICS....I think once the port/roms to go to the 3 stationary buttons on cappy, SGS 2, etc...etc... gets figured out it wont be to long for the rocket to get it...(cause the prime has 1 stationary and 3 changeable/movable buttons)..n will probably be upgrading before it is officialy released anyway, so why worry about it.....I havent even gotton HSPA+ yet in my area... so the LTE aspect would be nice in the future or when traveling and using verizons/tmob towers...rofl ....and probably end up buying another phone/upgrade before LTE widely available...but still want the option if avail.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MvP77:
I just bought a galaxy s 2 yesterday. Its going back tomorrow until this is released.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dross333:
I know it's too early to tell, but any estimates of battery based on the larger battery on this. Because of the large battery/LTE, will we get the same battery life of the current SGS2?

Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Kadin:
Sorry if this was already posted... went back to page 23 before searching and couldn't find this. Just got confirmation from a Store Manager at an AT&T Direct location as well as from an ASM at another store (who I used to work with when I worked for AWS/Cingular/Mobility) and they confirmed a launch price of $150 at their stores only - Corp stores I mean, not dealers.

Was this already reported somewhere else? At $50 less than the launch price of GSII, now I'm not sure I'm sticking with this phone... :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] locsplitter:
This and having 2 or 3 days to decide whether to return it or not..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
it seems like the new Skyrocket is the Samsung "Celox" (codename)

http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/08/...s-for-the-camera-has-physical-button-removed/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Divine_Madcat:
Well, this thread has outlived its useful life. Way to go kids...

Infractions now handed out.. behave people.... seriously.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LGSilva:
I guess I will return mine and get the skyrocket.

Not sure if there will be many dev for the device though.

About the data plan:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thejanitor86:
being in a smaller town i doubt i will see lte for awhile. also i would rather not have the snapdragon processor.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sweetboy02125:
What's wrong with snapdragon pro?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tejones36:
Wow, thanks for pointing this out! October 6th is the 30th day of when I bought my phone, so I can cancel the upgrade and get this phone. I called my local at&t store and they didn't even know about it yet, lol. The manager was nice however and told me to call later in the week and he'd hold on to one for me so I didn't lose the chance to get the new phone since it's the last day I can cancel my upgrade. woot!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Longcat14:
There's a possibility it may have the 1.5GHz Exynos, obviously AT&T would want their first LTE phone to have good hardware.

It's very unlikely that it's the Exynos, but there's a possibility, but we won't know until the phone specs are released/leaked or the phone itself is released.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] erraz:
At least this one has an fm radio
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kennonk:
I'm not upgrading again until the quad cores come out. It looks like this phone will have the snapdragon cpu. I am happy with my 1.5GHz OC'd Exynos at least until next summer. I might feel differently if I lived in one of the half a dozen cities where AT&T has LTE but since I don't all that means is more battery drain while it is constantly searching for an LTE signal and yet another widget to disable the LTE radio. Weak.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dungeon47:
If it's just LTE then meh, my area probably won't get it before my next upgrade. If it has the 720p screen, you bet I'll be switching unless there's something important missing from it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] billy_rud10:
I'll believe it when I see it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thejanitor86:
i guess we all just have to wait for a official spec sheet. i wonder if it actually has an fm radio this. or is it another misprint.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SSJ_Gomike:
Damn......it'll have the same basic specs as the T-Mobile SGS 2

..

Looks like I gave a decision to make....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] war eagle:
Tempting since we have LTE in Atlanta but screen size increase kills this for me.

sent from my awesome at&t galaxy s ii from xda premium
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
EDIT: Never mind.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kinubic:
my 30 days is tomorrow lol i still have a choice lmoa!!

but i dont think this phone will do any good to me even with the LTE in it! LA area doesnt seem to have LTE yet i think :3 lol ahhh ahha welllzzz
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dranakin:
So, if the specs are the same as T-Mobile's S2, isn't the ATT Exynos processor still better?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
The LTE version is pointless (still). Do you know how long it'll take them to roll this network out? Look at their faux 4G already.. it's available NO WHERE. Don't get too excited about the new network announcement - it'll be over a year before it's rolling out to a location remotely close to 90% of the people here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dungeon47:
According to phonearena.com (not always right, but generally close) it looks like the T-Mobile specs as Gromike suggested. Not enough to sway me, especially with how easy it is to OC to 1.5 should I want to. 4.5" screen would be nice, but .2" screen isn't worth moving for me.

This could also end up being the new Infuse, and if you look back to Infuse vs Captivate, the Captivate had the better community and developer support in my eyes.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Skyrocket_id6515
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] propsizzle:
unless you have LTE in your area. then it's not pointless.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] maxbrothersinc:
Keep us updated on this phone. I will be calling my AT&t store and checking my 30 day exchange date. Why would they make the phone so big?!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] erraz:
I hope there is a price drop on the sgs2 once this phone comes out
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
Still is, tiered plans. You won't notice the difference in speed in everyday use most likely. You can have a 1gbit wireless connection but you're always going to have crappy response times thus the difference in everyday use is negligible at a certain point. The amount of data being pushed around on our smartphones is so small that a 3-5mbit connection is plenty sufficient to be speedy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Dungeon47:
I didn't notice a difference in HSPA+ vs HSPA with this one. The problem is AT&T doesn't have the network infrastructure to support its users. I remember back when the Captivate first got HSPA enabled via ROMs and I was the only person using it in my area. I was getting 7Mbit down and 3 up, but now I'm lucky to get 2.5 down on either device.

Maybe if enough people switch to LTE, it will free up room on HSPA+, but I'm not sure if they share resources or not. Blah blah blah.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] igolfchip:
I don't think its worth the bother...

Slightly larger screen and processors not a big draw to an already great product

Folks say that will take AT&T a good 2 years to build out LTE network and currently not avail where I live (Raleigh NC). Guesing the LTE radio will pull as much if not more power than SGS 2 chipset, no no real benefit there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] propsizzle:
you make good points, but i guess the caveat is that to each person, the pros and cons are different. for some, it may make little sense to trade in, but for others, it makes much more sense.

-i have LTE in my area.

-i have a grandfathered unlimited plan

-i still have 4 days to return my S2

thus, my only concerns are:

-battery life (apparently the t-mobile S2 is the worst; add LTE, and it probably gets worse)

-screen size (i think 4.3 is really a great size, so is 4.5 really better?)

-the cost ($35 restock fee + $250 for the phone)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sopdogg:
1.5 ghz exynos and 720p screen would be awesome. But I definitely think it's going to be the same specs as the T-Mobile version with wvga resolution with the edition of LTE. Yawn....minor upgrade (possibly downgrade) to get LTE.

I would really think about it if I lived in Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Houston or San Antonio. Otherwise, who knows when LTE goes up for the rest of us. AT&T has said it will complete its LTE deployment by 2013. They better amp up that time table!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] david032766:
HMMM the 6th I will have only had my galaxy s2 for 27 days .. so Im guessing I will be trading :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Zinge:
I live right in the middle of D.C. and Baltimore which really makes me want to upgrade to this phone, but I'm not sure if the coverage radius will be at least 15 miles wide. My 30 days ends tomorrow which really puts me in a bind-- I want to see the Skyrocket and test the speeds/the phone itself before I buy it.

What are the rest of you planning on doing?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dross333:
The battery life is my only concern. Oh, and how quickly the devs can get a mod for this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] daveop:
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That's possible, although you have to remember that many people, myself included, knew that the S2 was on the horizon, and it made little sense to try the infuse. The Cappy also had the international version to fall back on, as will the S2 here. Any as to the guy who linked the S2 HD LTE, realize that this phone will not have the HD specs for the screen, which is a shame.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Lord_Micron:
Hmm... Will be checking to see about trading... Baltimore and DC are both set to have LTE turned on by the end of the year, so home and work are covered! :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jclav85:
WTF, I made the stupid choice of buying an LG Thrill and traded it on my 30th day for the GS2... 2 weeks later, skyrocket comes out... I couldn't have screwed myself any worse... Although I love my GS2... LTE speeds would be nice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] evodon84:
oh sweet, yeah I got BB to price match WalMart. $190 out the door. I'll await the reviews but Im not sure I want to pay an extra $100 for 4G.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Mr_Armageddon:
That is the wrong version. You linked the HD variant of the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE. The one coming to AT&T is the non-HD variant, which does NOT have a 1280x720 resolution screen.

It also looks like it will be rocking the 1.5 GHz Scorpion dual-core processor, Adreno 220 GPU, Qualcomm APQ8060 Snapdragon chipset.

If the version coming to AT&T was the HD variant, I would be all over it. But since its just a screen size bump + LTE (aka battery hog), I'm just going to keep my GSII.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] EnemyOfGlaDOS:
Has anyone talked to AT&T about returning the GS2 for the upcoming skyrocket?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] DKS1282:
I just got my ATT galaxy s2 last week, So far I hate it. I may try the upgrade and see how that goes, may try that for a little while before I just chuck it and go back the the ever amazing Iphone.

Oh at ATT you have 30 days to return or exchange the phone if you purchased a new one.. EVERYONE trade in your old junk for new junk!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] propsizzle:
as the S2 was my first android phone... what about all of the apps I purchased? will I have to repurchase if I get the skyrocket?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] tsolin01:
Whatever you purchase from the market will stay on your google account regardless of what phone you use.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] p51d007:
For me (Dell Streak still on 2.2.2), it's between this, and the Galaxy Note.

Already having a 5" screen, the Notes 5.3" wouldn't be that big of a deal,

considering if you look at the dimensions, the Note is physically smaller

than the Streak. The snagging point now is IF the note ever comes to the

States within a "reasonable" time. With AT&T, who knows! I gave up waiting

for them to release 2.2 and did it myself, and 3 months later they finally released

it. It's just not in the carriers interest to release updates, they'd rather have

people keep coming in year after year upgrading and extending their contracts.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pinoymutt:
What I'd like to know what our local devs are thinking? :D

Are you guys moving or staying pat? That may help me to figure out which way I want to go, heheheh.

But honestly, if the only changes are a slightly larger screen, LTE, and moving to the Qualcomm processors, I am thinking that I may just stay pat with the existing SGSII because I am thinking the battery life may be better off.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sopdogg:
Just get the ever amazing iPhone if you hate it so much. That's why there is that 30 day exchange policy! What's stopping you?

Don't forget about the $35 restocking fee!