yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mpcdata:
For whatever reason golauncher updated again. It shows the same version so I'm not sure but here's the odex ver of it. http://db.tt/6thx8I6o

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dverrette:
Has anyone else had any problems with the Sprint Hotspot? Mine doesnt start it just says error, should I update to 4/17/12 version?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
I don't use it. But I just tested and it seemed to work fine.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
Yessir hotspot working great on mine =D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revamper:
I left my phone on overnight for 9 hours on 3G and it only drained 3% :cool:

And hotspot works fine for me as well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] snapback2:
Coming from ICS to this awesome GB rom, how do I remove the yellow triangle? Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
Use a usb jig or you could use triangle away on ics.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] snapback2:
Whats usb jig and how do I use that?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Admiral2145:
Triangle away... It also resets your Odin flash count
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I just wanted to remind any new folks about the XDA premium odexed swag that we have going on.. if you own the app...

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1999TL:
I own the app. how do we get the XDA app and handcent themed like you have?

I switched over from ICS also. I like this rom much better. don't have to deal with bugs. Thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Check your PM

I meant XDA free style layout from settings

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I will post a themed odexed handcent flashable later today. The .so files have to go in system/lib

Edit... oh hell, maybe I need to just update the whole rom..

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
Nice to see people still enjoying GB

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
Hmmm...I dont have links right now but.....i believe sfhub has a way to do it and qbking77 has a video for it...i believe you flash chris41g's repacked el26 through odin and then all is well =D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AestenD:
You still need to send me a copy, since you sent the old one to me the otherday.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
LauncherPro

I am not sure how many LP users that I have out there..

I am really glad to say that after weeks of searching the smali code for that fugly gray screen indicator at the bottom, I FINALLY changed it blue. It was buried deep in the smali code. I will put it in a new rom update or post here if anyone is interested.. see picture of screen indicator at bottom (now my contrast blue as opposed to the fugly grey).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
Congrats!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tallblazer124:
I am back. Had a few bad dates with other roms. Had to come back to the old realibale. Still running strong I see. God work SS. How do I get the custom handcent.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I am going to update the whole rom with handcent in it very soon

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tallblazer124:
OK sounds great. I been wanting a customized handsent for a while. Hey Steve how can i find ur stock wall paper. I changed mines and didn't like it and now I want to go back.

Ps I have xda premium I would love to get my hands on the swagged out version..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chronwaxjoseph:
I'd like to check this out :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jb8301:
What modem are you guys having the best luck with on this? Haven't tried this ROM yet, but DL'ing it now, heard alot of good stuff about it and was just wondering about the modem, also are there any tricks when flashing from another GB ROM, or just the norm? Thanks!

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Just loaded this bad boy up, looks awesome so far, BUT is there any way to get rid of the sprint crap and bloat stuff? looked in apps but none of them have a option to uninstall....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
I use el26 modem as it seems best for me. but it may be different for you.

I remove the files I don't want from the ROM before I flash it. Drop the size about 100mb.

I have a few updates to the ROM In my signature (theme changes). From the signature go to the update folder, read the included word doc for information. Or wait, as Strongsteve will probably be updating the OP in the next few days.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I leave all the sprint crap in because .. being an odexed rom, its a LOT easier to remove than to add. Also.. there is always someone out there that wants that gay touchwiz widget that nobody else wants.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Admiral2145:
I'm flashing this rom tonight.. Tired of the ics leaks with horrendous battery life...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jb8301:
LOL! got ya, so remove stuff I don't want with titanium or something?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
You can or you could delete them from the zip before you flash it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Cool.. I will be updating it tonight so wait until I do so.. should be around 7 or so that it is posted.

Lots of new and updated stuff from the OP
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jb8301:
Another update after I just flashed this bad boy??? Say it ain't so...first time on this ROM, loving it so far, the dialer is BADASS, any spoilers on whats coming tonight?????
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Changes will be:

UPDATED

Market (play store)

GoLauncher

QuickPic

Some Theme Changes

Media Provider

Settings

Contacts

Framework-res

SystemUI

LauncherPro

Added

Handcent SMS w/lib files (themed)

Widget Picker
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
Download ROM to your computer and use 7zip to access the ROM and delete the files you don't want. Don't uncompress the ROM, keep it compressed while doing this.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Carbajal3009:
Or you could jusy get a file explorer app amd jusy delete the apps you dont want from the system/app folder :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
If you do it that way, make sure you get both the apk and the odex.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
Im not sure on this so ill need confirmation but i believe titanium removes both the apk and odex file. Again not 100% sure (i dont really have anything to delete atm lol)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
Also SDX Stock App Remover will backup and remove both apk and odex files. Or as mentioned you can use a file manager on the phone.

To me it makes the most since to remove the desired file on the computer making a modified ROM for yourself and then copy that to your sdcard. Then if you have to reflash your all set.

Edit: SS, thanks for including App Widget Picker in next update. If you think it is worth it include SDX Stock App Remover also. It is handy for backing up, removing and restoring system files. Very small file, I think only 22kb.

Also linked on my signature. I don't have it odexed. On the road right now and cant do it.

Edit: Here is odexed version

http://db.tt/fvbLsWFE

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mrkevo3000:
Mr. Strongsteve download link is 404... Im guessing that you are working on an update.. This Rom looks very nice.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Indeed.. uploading now..

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Update 5/14/12

Changes posted a few posts up

NOTE: If you have handcent installed. Delete your copy. Use the IPHONE skin and customize away to your desired liking.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tallblazer124:


Help. I went to search for music and i discovered this fugly green. :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
which music app are you using? I use poweramp so I am not sure..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] sniper:
:'( the green, it burns!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Dump that non-sense for PowerAmp.. QUICK!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
Well said :D

Thanks for all you do Steve. With such a great rom, there is no need for ICS :thumbup:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] steve97ta:
Plus one for power amp. Thanks Steve for the rom, been a while since I've been on gb I'm flashing tonight!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
New screen shots in the OP

That wallpaper depicted in the OP is not the default wallpaper.. if anyone wants it, let me know.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tallblazer124:
LOL. Its the stock music APP. I use poweramp but sometimes I use stock and that green is just so fugly.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tallblazer124:
New update looks good. I like the themed handscent. There is a problem with the handscent widget counter I see green. Lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackcanopy:
now you know that's going to drive StrongSteve nuts don't you... Lol

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
It yeah.. I didn't do the widget as I don't use it.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tallblazer124:
Does Widget picker works with Touch Wiz. I am not able to locate it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
I don't use touch wiz launcher, so not sure,but I think so. Keep in mind it's not an app that you launch. What it does is organizes your widget menu. For example instead showing 14 widgets for beautiful widgets in the menu, it will show just one, then you click that one to see the list of widgets for that app. More stream lined/cleaner, easier to go through the widget menu in my opinion.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
Without App Widget Picker the list gets long and cumbersome like this.

You have to scroll and scroll to get the widget you want.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] CrispyCritter:
What WHat WHAT!!?? FINAL gb?! Am I to assume that you're going to be focusing your efforts on perfecting ICS finally?! If this is the case, then you have no idea how happy I am.. I've tried a few other ICS ROMs, but they are all buggy as hell (in comparison to your smooooooth roms). -- That, and Google's lack of urgency in fixing their numerous bugs with Google music sickens me to no end. If there's anyone who can produce a rock-solid ICS ROM, then it will certainly be you, sir.

Go Steve, GO! WOOT!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Well.. the good news is that I CAN odex any ICS rom. I have that down for sure. I successfully odexed the ICS Blu Kuban. However, I refuse to put any time in ICS for my own personal ROM until its official OTA and bug free. There may be a good chance that I will be the only odexed game around because they wont be able to get that script working :D Of course, even if they do get it working, I still like doing it the old fashoned way.. manually.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chronwaxjoseph:
I drove the blu kuban ROM for a day and ended up coming back to this one (like I did with every ICS ROM). It's tough to get better than perfection. ;)

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BrooklynsFinest:
Is there any way to change the colors if this ROM? I'd like a lighter blue. What other gingerbread roms are good out there?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Sure there is a way. Decompile the apks and change the hue of the pngs any color you want :D

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
The blue is just perfect :cool:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Just in case you don't know, you can longpress right below the VVM trial button in the voicemail app. It will then give you the option to make it go away

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Looks good

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1brainsurgeon:
That script doesn't odex .jars right? It only odexes apks?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Not sure.. but its the JARS that make the real difference

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tommytomatoe:
In the very near future I will be releasing my universal odex utility :-)

Via script and app.

It works on all devices, all android versions, and all skinned android releases (Sense, touchwhiz, etc).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Tommy.. the man, you should charge!!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
You don't wanna make it too easy for these fools :p

hehe..

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jb8301:
Where is that sweet windows theme from?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elvelozpotosino:
Tommy, I used your Evo classic rom until my last day on the Evo, glad to see you on this forum.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tommytomatoe:
Hehe its not about easy or hard. My philosophy is all about sharing. Sharing means caring :-)

No sense in hoarding knowledge.

And when it comes down it it, people know who is who and what is what :-)

Thanks man :-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Of course.. I really appreciate all that you have taught me..

How did the wedding go?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jb8301:
Where does a brotha get that sweet Windows theme???
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
You can use launcher 7 (odexed of course :)) or desktop visualizer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Carbajal3009:
Im pretty sure if you have the donated version of the WP7 launcher you can theme it to your liking...such as strong steve's blue. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nitro_c4:
You can also customize the colors in the free version.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Carbajal3009:
Oh ok. Well i have the donated version of the apk :) didn't want to give misleading info if i was wrong
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
Well guys today is my last day with the phone. Thank you for all your help. Ill still be around here every once in a while since my phone is going to a friend of mine.

Also dont worry the hosting will still be there =D!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chronwaxjoseph:
Have things looking nice and sexy with the themed Handcent and futureworld Go launcher theme. :D

Keep up the great work!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revoman77:
just want to tell you thanks Steve... i strayed for a bit with the allure of ics but nothing out there functions better than your Rom... i can live without the foo foo bs ics brings to the table but ultimately this is a phone that needs to function as such... im sure ill play with other roms but much like my wife, yours will be the one i come home to at night... thx again and i can't wait to see what you have in store fir us next...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chronwaxjoseph:
Does your wife approve of these "other ROMS" :D

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mpcdata:
Here's golauncher 3.01 http://db.tt/mS8FjzvE

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] revoman77:
lol, sometimes she does.... sometimes she helps lol... but seriously thx Steve and all which helped, its obvious you guys put alot of time into perfecting before a release...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tallblazer124:
Is this good battery life with wifi on? Or is the Android os to high?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
Its just a bug. But it doesnt seem to actually eat up battery. Unless you have horrible battery life then you should look through better battery stats app and see whats eating your battery. =D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AestenD:
Fir whatever reason, having wifi on, even if idle, eats battery for me. But that'd nit what most people experience :/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Uamore6:
Sorry just returned back to my rom. Somehow I forgot to save my themed xda premium file. Can someone send me a link.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] oldpreowner:
I have been using an iphone and have came back to the epic touch.

Can I use just the stock messaging app? If so how can I delete Handcent? It is not showing up in the applications list. What a great rom!! Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Yes.. both are installed. You can use root explorer to remove handcent.apk and handcent.odex from system/app

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
Yeah you should try better battery stats (i believe it can be found on xda somewhere). Turn on wifi and see if you have any wake locks keeping you from deep sleep. If anything try full wipe and re-install all your apps straight from market. Could be a messed up app. If non of that works (or you've already tried all that) then it could be defective. Hope it all helps =D...if not well fk it i tried. Either way gl
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] snapback2:
Man **** ics. This rom is beast. But I have a question. How do I disable crt animation?

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Download Juice Defender on the play store
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
If you are comfortable with decompiling, its an easy mod in framework-res.apk
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] snapback2:
I dont know what you mean :c
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
GoogleQuickSearchBox

BlackGoogle Inverted search box changed to work with search button and a touch of blue added... for SS odexed rom.

Push to system/app
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xeonbuilder:
Nice work Steve on the Rom and on breaking my concentration.. How you ask? Well let me retort..

In a meeting today and getting my guys up to speed on a project coming in tomorrow when to my surprise what do I hear? "O ME SO HAWNEY!!" Apparently I didnt check the ringtone when i flashed the rom before work.. Needless to say that I needed a few mins to get everyones game face back on..

Thanks ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
PRICELESS!!! :D

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] runner77:
The same thing happened to my wife after I flashed her phone. Except she was at the "female doctor" being examined when the phone rang!!! Needless to say, I received a heated call when she left her appointment. She thought I did it to embarrass her.

I blamed Steve!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I burst out laughing so hard!! :D

I have already got a really good ringtone picked out that will be default in my ICS build .. <evil snicker>
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
That is so funny!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I have themed up the black google search some more for my rom..

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mpcdata:
Ok here's golauncher 3.02 http://db.tt/Dx2IEK9u

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mpcdata:
For some reason golauncher updated again. The version didn't change. Here it is http://db.tt/Dx2IEK9u

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I am so glad you are keeping this ROM current strongsteve! It will always be on the "All Time" list of great ET4G ROMs

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
GoogleQuickSearchBox

Anybody still using my rom, please push this GoogleQuickSearchBox to system/app
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Lol @ "Blow me"

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Confucius say.. if you don't have beautiful status bar, throw your phone out the window of a moving car..

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mjohnson4580:
I was wondering if the scrolling cache is disabled in this rom?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
My update link in my signature has Steves latest updates. Read the included update document to see which files are affected.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
4g icons were changed again.. get files from pjjohn73.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jballa15:
Afternoon! I'm absolutely loving the rom. It's the best I have experienced. I just flashed the last zip update and now when I use the dialer to quickly find my contacts the number is not visible. If I choose a contact it will use the number but for some reason the number is not visible. Any solutions?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Im not sure what you mean.. can you post a screen shot?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
It should look like this

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
Just tried it, he means in the drop down. Would the change to contact changed this?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Yikes.. I am going to have to fix that!!!

Paul.. see if it did that before my last changes.. if you can..

I need to make that background black
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jballa15:
Thanks for the help. My png screen shot wasn't able to upload. is there an app that allows png conversion to jpeg to upload here or one that takes them and saves as a jpeg. How were you able to upload your screen shot?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
I use Tapatalk instead of XDA

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Contacts.apk

Fixed white on white issue with contacts search from dial pad pop up..

Push apk and odex to system/app
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
Sorry didn't see this until it was to late.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
I might be going to the GS3 in September but going to wait and see when we are getting LTE in Seattle. My wife will get this phone if I upgrade. She hates her phone to change and complained a lot when her Optimus S updated from Froyo to GB. She likes GB now and loves the blue on this Rom so I expect she'll want to run it. Going to dl the final version and guard it for later use. Thanks for keeping it updated, guys. Great work
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jballa15:
Great! where is the link for the update?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I will have it back up shortly.. I was going to try to change something else too while I was messing around in there..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jballa15:
Sweet!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chronwaxjoseph:
Finally found a wallpaper and weather widget I'm satisfied with. Also using future world go launcher theme. ;)

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Looks outstanding! I'm going to be posting contacts.apk sometime today.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Contacts.apk

push apk and odex to system/app for white on white fix
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chronwaxjoseph:
Thought I'd post this for all you Power Amp users out there. It's an ICS

blue theme widget which looks pretty damn sweet.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5tYXhtcHouYXVkaW9wbGF5ZXIuaG9sbyJd
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
Just read the American version of SGS3 is going to have a S4 1.5GHZ dual core. Thought it was supposed to be a quad core??

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AestenD:
LTE. The quad core doesn't work with American LTE, so we get the dual. But it's based on new A15, so is still very powerful.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I will indeed be getting a 32gb blue GS3 at the end of the month.

So.. odexed blue for this phone is officially end of line and I will be on it until I switch to the GS3.

Hope to see you guys there!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AestenD:
Gasp! No ICS Odex blue awesome for this phone? Curse you Steve lol. Now I'm going to have to get the GS3 as well, just to have Steve awesomeness. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sturmie:
Kernel draining the battery?

I'm running the SS_EL29_4-17-signed build and everything has been fine until ~late last week. All of sudden, my battery started to drain quicker than normal. Bad@ss Battery says that my kernel is over 50% of my usage (see detailed screen shots attached)...any ideas?

Thanks.

Sturmie
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Hmm.. maybe a fresh install or a new kernel?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sturmie:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too (fresh install)...but, it would be easier to try a kernel change first...any good recommendations?