yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab General] cpgeek:
Yeah, I find this logic pretty sound, and I don't HATE samsung, but I just find myself disappointed that they can't support what was a flagship product for them for a full year of major current system updates...

I believe that every company in this business should list in bold print on the box a software support gurentee for a period of time. Before they even start mass producing an item like this they should have a full timetable of support dates very similar to the way that PC OS vendors do. Microsoft for example will put in their documentation that they will have support and system updates for any particular version of windows for at least X number of years so that enterprise IT people who work in businesses know that they are able to support the rollout and testing and will be gurenteed support for that long and won't be left in the dust when super neeto os 9000 comes out next spring and they need to roll out 10000 office machines next Tuesday on humdrum stable os 8000.

I realize that these tablets are more geared towards personal multimedia and "internet kiosk" type workloads, given appropriate support, I could completely understand if a business wrote a custom android cash register and inventory app that used a samsung dock connector cardswipe adapter for point of sale. I think a company that makes such a pos setup would do pretty well if the support was there. Or perhaps doctor's office that uses an sgt7 for filling out php forms in a mysql database for paitent chart and medical record lookup. I think that'd be pretty darn convienent.

They are doing it with ipads (for which apple gurentees at least 3 major OS revisions will be compatible with it), why can't samsung do it with their flagship tablet (at the point I bought this, it was the sgt7), now the sgt 10.1 (though, if they support that like the sgt7, ics will be the last version on it, and that too will be a sad day when some desert name that starts with a j comes out in 8-12 months.

My point is that other companies can specify what timeframe support will continue happening (always longer than a year after release), why not samsung? - do other android tablet manufacturers handle this differently (this is my first android device)?
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
Bit of a shame that HTC are updating their flyer to honeycomb from gingerbread

Samsung ... Nothing

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[Galaxy Tab General] bizkut:
It's a shame. Samsung just wannabe good as Apple. But guess what, iPhone 3GS still getting iOS 5 and it was a 2009 phone. Samsung isn't going anywhere. So please Samsung, you aren't be good as you want to be. so please be yourself and stop claiming better than Apple.
[Galaxy Tab General] matikemin:
Totally agree, my friend.
[Galaxy Tab General] dfvt:
Samsung already confirmed that galaxy tab and galaxy s won't get ics and explains why.

See: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-and-Galaxy-Tab-not-getting-ICS_id25061
[Galaxy Tab General] NTICompass:
Samsung explains that it’s because of a combination of factors: using the TouchWiz skin, included video conferencing sotware, additional widgets, carrier software and localization, which all make it hard for Samsung to deliver an update. Except for that, the Korean company refers to issues with RAM and ROM management.​

So the original Galaxy Tabs don't get ICS because Samsung can't put their crapware on it? Thanks, Samsung.
[Galaxy Tab General] cpgeek:
Even this is incorrect. If they chose to, they could fairly easily release an application that would repartition the galaxy tab 7 and thus they'd have all the space they'd need. The flash on the sgt is 16gb, it simply has a small partition for the rom and another partition for user data. This can be changed. The long way arround is to use a modified pit file with odin (though I can clearly see why they don't want their customers doing that as this can brick tabs if someone modifies it improperly or selects certain incorrect options in odin. But they could fairly easily create an app that does the same thing that has less interactivity and an emphasis on checksumming to make sure everything is correct before it tries to flash anything (this is what most firmware flasher apps do anyhow for other devices).

In short, it'll fit, they simply chose not to do it.

Performance issues are marginal, as it has been proven that ICS AOSP works great on the sgt (the guys in the dev forum are working on it and what they have is very prommissing). But why can't they just go with the stock android ui instead of maintainging that touchwiz is mandatory... that's bull**** and the first thing I change when I flash my tab anyhow due to it causing performance issues.

Just give us stock ics on our tabs with some support... it's not that hard samsung... it's taken the dev forum about a month and a half now, with no proprietary knowledge to get most of it done, I figure samsung could have a polished rom in testing by now.
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
Couldn't put it better myself mate!

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[Galaxy Tab General] brilldoctor:
They could still let kies do it without prompting the user about a repatriation.

At least do what HTC did with the desire or even give us a kernel
[Galaxy Tab General] cpgeek:
I don't think that kies can repartition
[Galaxy Tab General] mike2nl:
I had added two comments, but samsung was able to delete this critics from me. Is that the ways that Smasung act with us customers? I think it time to say good bye to samsung forever. I do not hope that XDA is sponserd by samsung.
[Galaxy Tab General] agc93:
XDA is not directly sponsored by any manufacturers, and Samsung would be unable to have any post removed simply for being negative about their products. If your comments were excessively defamatory, irrelevant or factually inaccurate, then other users may have reported your posts. That's about it.
[Galaxy Tab General] AnttiV:
I think he meant the comments were removed from Facebook, not xda. (Yes, Samsung apparently has dropped low enough to resort to that, my comment was removed too.)

On a sidenote, see this facebook page for another publicity for this:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-to-Samsung-Galaxy-S/185448618218473?sk=wall
[Galaxy Tab General] biffroy:
Maybe they do care?! --- >>> http://androidheadlines.com/2011/12...andwich-onto-the-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab.html
[Galaxy Tab General] Hawk521:
Go Samsung!!!

I would be most appreciative for a Samsung supplied ICS update for the Galaxy Tab. It would make a very strong statement about Samsung's commitment to its customers. Would be the best PR investment possible.
[Galaxy Tab General] vs_infinity:
It would be great if Samsung decide to upgrade the original galaxy tab to ICS,

a lot of the original galaxy tab owners would think the same even if Samsung won't upgrade it to ICS, the devs on xda would make a miracle out of it.
[Galaxy Tab General] AnttiV:
There's a slight hope a-brewing... http://samsung-updates.com/401-update-samsungs-ice-cream-sandwich-value-pack/
[Galaxy Tab General] esawaf:
What a bad news :mad:
[Galaxy Tab General] AnttiV:
I hope you either a) did not refer to my post, or b) didn't read it through.
[Galaxy Tab General] phlooke:
Looking at the time stamp of "esawaf" post I think yours and his overlapped and his comments were in the spirit of the message of this thread
[Galaxy Tab General] pback:
They should define "value pack". Whatever, still unacceptable, if the Nexus S which has the same specs as our Tab gets the full upgrade. We should not settle for less!:mad::mad:
[Galaxy Tab General] AnttiV:
If it really is ICS-based, and not just bloat-ware on top of GB, then I'd say that'd be more than acceptable. Please note that the Nexus S will get "full upgrade" to *VANILLA* ICS, not full upgrade to whatever would be considered full on a Samsung Galaxy phone (notably TouchWiz). If "Value Pack" turns out to be ICS 4.0.1 with "certain missing features" being Samsung customizations, among them most of TW, I'd be more than happy. I'd much more prefer vanilla ICS to TW-ized ICS.

But, if "certain missing features" turns out to be HW acceleration, then no, that won't do.

All I'm really asking is basic, stripped-down ICS with real drivers for all hardware so that the ROM-guys can use those and cook up their own.
[Galaxy Tab General] phlooke:
What is so bad about Touch Wiz? ...sorry for the noob question but I don't understand what is the problem with it.
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
Poor UI which resembles iOS too much.

IMO, i think that value pack means pure ICS with no TouchWiz.

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[Galaxy Tab General] AnttiV:
IMO, it is not a case of TW being bad, per se. It is just that the competition is so much better.

As said, and that's my opinion too, it resembles too much iOS. Also I don't like how it is missing critical features of other launchers. I DO like the fact that TW integrates so much with social networking and other things. Best of all worlds, for me, is a device with TW integrations and GO Launcher as the "face".
[Galaxy Tab General] driqbd:
It's confirmed! Galaxy S and Tab will NOT get Official ICS from Samsung. @eldarmurtazin just confirmed it. btw, if u don't know who he is...well google is ur friend :)
[Galaxy Tab General] Byrana:
I do not think this post proves anything. Samsung has not given any official statement on ICS for tab or nexus s. So until then nothing is "officially" confirmed.
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
He doesn't work for Samsung or anything... He's just a tech guy?

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[Galaxy Tab General] vince_junior:
Samsung has explained that it will be difficult for them to upgrade the tab because the touchwiz runs so "deep" in the tab. That's not the case with the nexus s. Is that hard to understand?

We should be thankful that samsung is considering to give us a "value pack". Although what contained in it is stii unclear, it's stii nice that we will be having a taste of ics, in whatever form (also considering that the planned upgrade to the tab is purely incidental; we should thank the 10million galaxy s users for it).

If you don't like touchwiz, then why the h**l did u get the tab? Samsung did not force you to get it. You are free to migrate to other oems for your next device!
[Galaxy Tab General] Byrana:
You should probably read the latest news that was posted by xda... explaining what the valuepack is before getting personal. Still your argumentations are based on rumors like the whole thread. there's no need to put yourself into a position you are not in.

By the way... Happy New Year.
[Galaxy Tab General] conan1600:
Bottom line, my tab runs perfect with my 1.6 ghz and custom rom. If there were no further updates at all for my already pimped out tab it wouldnt hurt a thing. I can do anything I want with this device already save a few slow facebook games. Xda devs are better then samsung support and im already well pleased with tabs performance. Arnt you?
[Galaxy Tab General] kubatbg:
100% there will be a ported rom from 7.0 Plus on our Tabs. Just as with HC :P
[Galaxy Tab General] cpgeek:
Touchwiz does not run deep in the tab. Its a launcher' , a set of apis, and a couple of core apps. I've been using gb aosp in the form of the overcome rom for a very long time on my tab and now i,m running ics aosp for the past month or so in the way of the pics aosp project here on xda. It shouldn't be particularly difficult to build an ics aosp rom for Samsung especially with them having all of the proprietary driver sources for the cameras the wifi, Bluetooth, gpu acceleration, etc. And being a major player, I'm sure they have additional support and documentation from Google as well. We don't need touchwiz. Its not nessasary. Is it a nice UI? Some may think so and that's fine, its about choice and what the system will handle. If sa,mmy goes "you're welcome to upgrade but we can't do touchwiz, that's a choice and I'm totally fine with that.
[Galaxy Tab General] spike1985:
Samsung confirmed a "light" version of ICS for p-1000!!!
[Galaxy Tab General] cpgeek:
Please link me to something official that states this
[Galaxy Tab General] Dhekelian:
I have heard also that there we will be a watered down version but untill it gets released or Samsung come out with something concrete it is all rumour no?
[Galaxy Tab General] Derrian:
exactly

/10char
[Galaxy Tab General] kamelot.sk:
http://www.androidcentral.com/no-samsung-ics-value-pack-coming

time to sell galaxy tabs?
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
God damn it Samsung!

Getting our hopes up, then crushing them :(
[Galaxy Tab General] Byrana:
I just wanted to post the same link. I didn't have much hope but it is still frustrating. Touchwiz is the worse there is and I worked with Sony and HTC devices. What bothers me the most is that I was hoping to finally get a working calendar app. The Touchwiz one doesn't even sync right with Google. If I wouldn't have root I'd be f***. I will not buy anymore Samsung devices... nor will I recommend them.
[Galaxy Tab General] cpgeek:
I strongly suggest installing overcome kratos (the latest) or cyanogen mod 7 both of which are based on aosp (overcome being the closest to aosp as cm7 has quite a few mods that make the UI a bit easier to use. Soon there will be a public release of cm9 which is the cyanogen from with gingerbread but its probably still a few months off.
[Galaxy Tab General] phlooke:
There will never be an official ICS release for us on the P1000 because Samsung have stated the RAM & ROM are not big enough.

There is consideration of an official Value Pack but this is almost like a customised GB ROM!?:

http://sammyhub.com/2011/12/28/galaxy-s-may-get-a-value-pack-upgrade-instead-of-android-4-0/

...the best we can hope for is our XDA devs here getting the full ICS h/w drivers etc for the P1000 and then they port the full ICS for us.

Fingers crossed :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
Nah, there wont be ANY update at all.

Not even the value pack.

The source you posted is from 28th December.

Samsung official said yesterday they will be no update at all...

*sigh*

Expect a huge backlash from SGS owners on Samsungs Facebook page...

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[Galaxy Tab General] Dhekelian:
I thought there was already a backlash from customers forcing them to have a rethink?
[Galaxy Tab General] biffroy:
There was, but it seems Samsung don't give a damn after all. I'm glad I upgraded my SGS to the sgs2, as I'm running cm9 now, and I think that SGS owners also have a choice of ics rom's on the xda thread. The reality is the devs are the ones making Samsung's products worth owning. I hope Samsung lose a lot of customers over this.

As far as us tab owners are concerned, we can only hope that the team currently developing cm9 will decide to share their amazing work! They are our only hope now, and I would urge anyone who uses te4m's rom if/when they release it to donate donate donate!

All of the above is, of course, my OWN personal opinion!
[Galaxy Tab General] Dhekelian:
Typical Samsung. Like you stated I hope they lose customers over this. When I got my Tab i hoped that I was in for a decent experience as far as customer support was concerned but alas I wasn't.
[Galaxy Tab General] phlooke:
That sucks :(

Was looking around and about and found this...semi-interesting detailing exactly whats been going on..

http://blogs.computerworld.com/19513/samsung_galaxy_s_ice_cream_sandwich?source=rss_blogs
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
Yeah there was. Then apparently Samsung reconciled and said there will be an update

Customers and tech blogs were praising Samsung for listening to users etc, but then they go an pull this stunt...

This shows that Samsung don't give a **** about their customers at all.

Expect a huge backlash now. After being sort of promised a update, them its taken away from them now... customers are furious!

Their gonna get alot of abuse :D

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[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
Interesting article!

Basically sums up the drama!

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[Galaxy Tab General] send.saif:
ICS for Galaxy tab

Hi in my opinion it would be wise to wait for Samsung to release ICS update to the newly released “galaxy tab 7.0 plus” *(this new phone is almost similar in size and may have slight hardware improvements over old galaxy tab) this way :) the developers can use this new samsung ICS stock rom and customise it to work on Galaxy tab p1xxx series an easy option than customising the ICS SDK? Please suggest thanks Mohammed
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
Yeah, i suppose that could be a possible solution.

However the Tab plus varies greatly in specs. Apart from the same size screen and resolution, it has a dual core CPU and much more RAM.

I don't know if this will make it harder for devs to port it..

But hopefully we will get a good port.

What I'm worrying now, most secs have left the scene here. Development seems a bit on the quiet side of things
[Galaxy Tab General] red_rebel:
Oh, no, not another one. We've never got official upgrade to 2.3 in Russia and now "hardware limitations" again.

I see little issues of running ICS Alpha on SGT.
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
REALLY?

How are Russian tabs different? :confused:

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[Galaxy Tab General] red_rebel:
They are not different. They are international GT-1000 models. It just hasn't been released official 2.3.x updates. Samsung Russia facebook still says - Preparing for release (since Jun). All custom "russian" roms are made from roms released for European market. Why they can't release everywhere the same version is beyong me.
[Galaxy Tab General] gilgomez:
8.9 Galaxy Tab will not receive ICS update?

ok everyone, I am a major noob but please be patient with me..........

I currently have a Nook Tab and plan to return it tonight or tomorrow night because the frustration level is high when I can't even update my own sideloaded apps without rooting. What a pain in the ass! B&N really played us...calling it a Tablet.

So I have read reviews and found the Samsung Galaxy 8.9 wifi, 16 gb on sale for $399 and am extremely tempted by this slick device. But with all the posts regarding Samsung's announcements regarding updates I wanted to ask this community for the scoop. It's just hard to keep track with all the darn Samsung devices out there!

Samsung Galaxy GT-P7310MVGR (8.9-Inch Screen) Tablet- Metallic Gray

The above is the model I crave but it has Honeycomb 3.1 and I wonder what updates if any are planned or announced by Samsung. Most importantly I would like YOUR advice since the XDA forum members have working knowledge with these tablets and Samsung. It seems that Samsung has sucky support and I know updates are rare.

So, your opinion and advice is encouraged....

Planned use for tab: reading, casual web, emails with attachments, games, watching news videos, chatting with my son via Skype.

Thanks!!!!!

Gilgomez :)
[Galaxy Tab General] nelsonoski1972:
@Gilgomez

The Tab u r planning to get is more than sufficient for ur needs.It will be updated to ICS this year.
[Galaxy Tab General] esawaf:
I wish and I think that Galaxy Tab p1000 will get an official update finally :)
[Galaxy Tab General] red_rebel:
I will be very surprised if they do that.
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
Its likely we will get a Value Pack update now with some ICS features.

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[Galaxy Tab General] phlooke:
Thats quite a turnaround in your opinion froma few days back :D

What have you read? ...and/or know that the rest of us dont?
[Galaxy Tab General] got556:
I've got a WTB ad in the marketplace but I'll gladly buy a wifi samsung galaxy tab off one of you disgruntled SGT owners. Seriously. :D
[Galaxy Tab General] olyloh6696:
I know mate haha :p

Well, check out the XDA portal, its living proof a value pack has been in progress

There's a leaked ROM for SGS owners

It adds features like face unlock :)

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[Galaxy Tab General] phlooke:
Nice. I'll have a gander.

Cheers.
[Galaxy Tab General] Neleor:
The value pack is Android 2.3.6 AFAIK :(
[Galaxy Tab General] :
How can you prove that?
[Galaxy Tab General] -=Android Man=-:
Well, that will not ics from samsung. But there is ics on xda))
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] icanthinkofanid:
I have an unlocked S2 and I'm wondering if its safe to go flashing roms? If I brick it then recover it will I still have an unlocked phone? Also if I recover user data is it still unlocked?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 510jungleboy:
Have anyone played this game yet? It's amazingly fun on our 4.5" Epic 4g Touch screen ... :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
I got it the first day it came out, and it's awesome... Basically Gears of War for Android... Your chainfire settings must be like so:

View attachment 764742

to get it to work, btw.

(the first one, about reducing texture quality, is optional, though.. It'll run either way..)

<<work in progress>>
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dante501:
I have it running without any sacrifice on any graphics whatsoever. It is a great game in the style of Gears of War.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 510jungleboy:
I didn't do any checked/unchecked in settings...i just use the nVidia plugin....IT works great ....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] n00b1269:
I can't find this on the market which is killing me because I've played every shadowrun game. Anyone have a link?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
Just do the 'Market Fix' with Chainfire, after installing the NVIDIA plugin.

:-)

Edit:nvrmind, wrong thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zexell:
I think everyone is mistaking ShadowRUN for ShadowGUN. I just got the non-tegra2 version without chainfire or other openGL drivers and it runs fine. Kickass game!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] slick4mitch:
+1 ... awesome game on our awesome phones ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mazook98:
Yep, sorry.. I'm talking about ShadowGUN... Sorry, OP.

<<work in progress>>
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] :
I can't find the game on the market.

Sent from SGSII.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tandxcstar1:
pm me if you want the apk. I found it and its running very well. Addicting is all I can say. Also no chainfire needed. Install and play
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] n00b1269:
Damn I was really hoping for a new shadowrun game or a port. Back to SNES rom on emulator.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Palmetto Dread:
I keep getting an error message saying my device isn't supported, can anyone help?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jase1783:
Palmetto, I was having this same issue. Found out it was due to changing the LCD Density. I was running at 200 and getting the same error.

I followed this....

http://myraroldan.com/wp/2011/09/your-device-is-not-compatible-with-this-item-annoying-android-market-message/

And fix the problem with running at 160. I am going to test more DPI Setting to find out which one works the best. 160 is nice but too small for me!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ipetloudog:
After installing chainfire by only using zedo's root, my homescreen resolution became awful. Horribly pixelated. Everything else looks like it should but my homescreen. Solution?

Sent from my SPH-D710 Galaxy S II [suck it]
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Khilbron:
ShadowGun is a Paid app, offering the APK to people is Warez, XDA does not condone warez in any way, shape, or form.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tandxcstar1:
Sorry was unaware .. I see other post so did not know. My apologies.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
market link anyone?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] thekarens:
I found the market link from Android police when it came out. Let me look.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coreyjames28:
I can play level one no problems with chainfire. Once i pass level one and it loads level 2 it just crashes. Is anyone else having this issue?
[Atrix 4G Accessories] malickie:
I mean I went to Best Buy and looked at a Droid 2 and the USB/HDMI are in the same place. You think it would work on the Atrix 2??
[Atrix 4G Accessories] rog1121:
What? You might want to rephrase this....