yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fascinate Android Development] bigwilly90210:
Lol. I had the exact same argument except my wife is due for an upgrade and dead set on getting the Galaxy nexus so she understands I have to beat her to ICS at least. Haha. Thanks Enyo! Did end up flashing this, but not much to do right now. Touchscreen + basic phone functions and I'm sold. Ha. Keep up the good work!
[Fascinate Android Development] notta:
Do your thing!

Here's looking forward to being fully baked... :D
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
@junkboyo, haha ya your right... it was late when I posted lol.
[Fascinate Android Development] NH2G:
Ok, I know this may sound stupid at first, but bare with me.

The Samsung Fascinate has nearly all of the components the Nexus S has, other than the radios and no Verison compatibility, but that is just the hardware.

What I'm getting at is the Nexus S has a stable ICS port like the Nexus S 4G.

Because the Fascinate is so similar to the Nexus S, would it be difficult to modify their port to run on the Fascinate. I know someone is going to say "it's not that simple" hopefully you know what I'm trying to say, because I don't exactly know how to word it.
[Fascinate Android Development] sarkozy:
The nexus port is a leaked version of 4.0 from an earlier Google build. Porting it to the fascinate is pretty much pointless unless you only care about having 4.0. It'll all have to be done again when source drops, so why not wait for the real deal?
[Fascinate Android Development] NH2G:
I did see that a few days ago, but it has been updated since then. In fact, this port currently is too and is progressing in a very similar way.

The Nexus S (non 4G) appears to be 4.0.1 SDK based. The 4G is based on an old leak which appears to be 2.3.5 with SDK additions.

EDIT:

Well it seems I was a bit off with my info, the S4G is closer to 4.0.1 than the S.

Still it could be modded to work on the Fascinate.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
This is 4.0.1 based. With sdk version 14
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Does it make a difference?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Either way an sdk port will be buggy till source is released.
[Fascinate Android Development] ali1276:
How did you fix wifi and bluetooth?
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Whats the word on an update to Alpha 3 for this?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Soon. Got help from jt so hopefully in the next couple of days
[Fascinate Android Development] saps:
Now that it worth mentioning! Very Interesting :D
[Fascinate Android Development] bigwilly90210:
Ok good now i can stop checking the thread every hour. Lol. Any update is terrific. Thanks enyo
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Would it be possible to incorporate some type of update system? So that you don't have the re-flash every new version of this rom?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Yes its possible. Ill see what I can do
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Cool. Only a small handful of roms support updates like that instead of a re-flash. Which is weird. It more-or-less deters someone from using a rom.
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
My point was being, when you flash a rom, you have to flash every update after it and lose all of your data. I used to have Firefly on my captivate and never had to do so. It just applied the patches. And another one by Designgears also didn't require a full wipe. So, I know its possible.
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
1. Download update to a rom.

2. Boot into clockwork.

3. Wipe caches.

4. Flash rom update.

5. Reboot and rom is upgraded.

6. Dont make statements about how the above isnt necessarily best practice but will work as long as you stay on the same rom.

Or hell, rom manager will automate upgrading if you are lazy.

It was an untrue statement that implies that devs like jt are incompetent or oblivious to something very obvious. Its really not surprusing that he would react with some hostility cobsidering the only reason this sdk port is even remotely possible is because of jt.
[Fascinate Android Development] bigwilly90210:
^^^THIS^^^

ha. Yeah, i figured he probably just got spoiled by how easy rom manager makes things. I honestly never wipe data except when switching roms and then i usually make a nandroid to restore from anyway. Thats what i did with this last night. I'll be flashing it again tonight to shoot a proof of concept video.
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
Can you post a link directly to the page on rootzwiki? On my mobile and was going to download and flash from my phone Also it is mtd right?
[Fascinate Android Development] chopper the dog:
If you read the thread you need to odin to bml first.

good day.

good day. using xda premium.
[Fascinate Android Development] tweakymattman:
Jt released his beta... already

. U might wanna just wait and then mod his build. No offense but he is a way better dev. And he released it with only one day of source
[Fascinate Android Development] wideopn11:
The word you are looking for is "alpha".
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
Well once I go ICS with a stable build I don't think I will be flashing to anything else.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
I think I see the problem - Start in Samsung/, scroll down to Mesmerize/Fascinate/Showcase/

The Fascinate forum is grouped together with the Mesmerize and Showcase.

And, by the way, crude sexual references have no place in this forum - they're even worse than name-calling and insulting one's intelligence (which also don't belong here)

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] M_T_M:
No more insulting, flaming, off topic or sexual innuendos mates....:cool:

Last warning

Cheers,
[Fascinate Android Development] tweakymattman:
Yea meant alpha and wait for his beta
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
Not a problem. I'm here to learn and apologize to the forum members. Just would like to say I came here to ask for help and not to be insulted which I was. If I was not insulted I wouldn't have lashed out. Again my apologies. Treat me with respect and you will get the same.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Did you see my earlier post and find the thread you were looking for?

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
I had seen that earlier when I was looking but I didn't see anything with jt's name on it. I think my problem is I'm on my mobile right now. When I get to a computer I should be able to find it. Thanks for the help.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Try this: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/9687-rom-aosp-ics-extreme-alphalulz-1116/

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
Thanks. I will look into it when I get home.
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
It must be a problem with the app. I finally got to a computer and tried looking it up and there it was right on the front page of that thread. In the app for rootzwiki it is not even up there. Must be a problem with the app. So to the ones who were calling me stupid and dense the issue was with the app not the forum or me. Learn more about a person before you start calling them stupid. Skynet, thanks for the help and understanding.
[Fascinate Android Development] akellar:
I have the app. It is in the same place on the app that it is on the web-based page. :rolleyes:
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
I have looked and it still isn't there on mine. Im not making this stuff up. I can find it on the website but not in the app. I am going to exactly the same place in both. Maybe mine isn't refreshing like it is suppose to or whatever. I found the thread all is good. Now that I have found it, it wasn't even worth all the trouble. There isn't a lot of information in there that is useful. Not to me anyways.
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
Here is a screen of what I am getting. Maybe I am stupid. This is what I got. I think I am in the right place. Let me know how dumb I am at using the app but I just don't see it. Even if you scroll down.
[Fascinate Android Development] akellar:
LOL yeah its the second thread listed. :confused:
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Your app settings show you the last person to post in each thread, not the OP - go into settings and set "thread summary shows" to "first post in thread"

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
I was looking for something that had the name jt in it. I see the error of my ways now. Gosh I am stupid. Sorry guys.
[Fascinate Android Development] Deltido:
It's okay, we all have our days. Live and learn :)
[Fascinate Android Development] Dj-Dubster_TN:
This is how a forum should run,help not flame
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
I agree. Thanks.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Editing the source code. If all goes well, ill upload it immediately.
[Fascinate Android Development] Skrazz:
Hoping all goes well! Excited!
[Fascinate Android Development] dr_w:
just brilliant I needed that.
[Fascinate Android Development] NuclearEMP:
Hey I'm on that screen shot, lololol

Go team Enyo!!!!

Just brilliant
[Fascinate Android Development] newbie4ever:
I'm glad that your not giving up on this even though jt is working on this as well... jt really does great work but don't let that discourage you from doing your thing
[Fascinate Android Development] Dj-Dubster_TN:
+1
[Fascinate Android Development] lyrical1278:
I just want to congratulate you on this port thus far. I don't use my Fascinate for anything so I basically got a mp3/'Spotify (set to offline) player that runs ICS.
[Fascinate Android Development] tonu42:
Jt1134 beat enyo already on rootz wiki...... just saying. I commend you though enyo for trying, I really really do. Your up in the top dev list in my book.
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
I was having a really slow day. Glad I could entertain. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] NH2G:
jt's is at the same point Enyo's is...
[Fascinate Android Development] xHoLyx:
SDK is porting

but JT built from a scratch with Source.

Props to Enyo but I gotta hand it to JT for this one.
[Fascinate Android Development] NH2G:
Honestly, both are impressive. I will flash the first stable ROM and compare the two once both are good to go and use the better one, as I am sure most people will.
[Fascinate Android Development] tonu42:
Built from scratch IMO leads to better continuation of the project.
[Fascinate Android Development] kuronosan:
This reminds a lot of the Kaos vs. JT CM7 thread.

JT still came out on top. That's not even mentioning that Kaos was coding from scratch, using source, and not an SDK, and wasn't using any of JT's existent code.

Good luck Enyo.
[Fascinate Android Development] newbie4ever:
I don't know why everyone thinks it's a competition... just 2 people doing their own thing
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
I've tried both and the only big difference I saw was the boot screen. Both will be good once they are pretty polished.
[Fascinate Android Development] joshkoss:
Both enyo and jt should be appreciated for the work they do for our device people. We shouldn't be comparing, everyone has a different skill set to contribute, its about working together, that's what xda is about!
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Perhaps people are calling it a competition because they subconsciously wish they would combine their efforts into one ROM...

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
not to flame, but id imagine enyo helping jt would hinder jt's efforts lol
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Any updates Enyo?
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
As I said in a certain other thread, like Shaq teaching Steve Nash how to shoot free throws :D

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] lacross:
how exactly do i flash another rom on my phone after flashing this?

cwm isnt working correctly
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
You have to flash another BML rom with ODIN then redo your recovery then whatever rom you like. This is what I had to do anyways. It worked for me.
[Fascinate Android Development] lacross:
where could i find one? is there one that doesnt take an hour to download?
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
I have all of the files in my dropbox account. I can make them public and send you the links to each file. The main file is around 300 MB or more. It is the stock image for the fascinate.
[Fascinate Android Development] lacross:
using the 3 finger method to enter recovery bricks your phone. -___-'

im DLing an ODIN now...
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
Do you have an image to flash?
[Fascinate Android Development] lacross:
im using this one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1124391
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
Very stupid question but do you have a charge or a fascinate? I am only asking because your signature is saying you have a droid charge and this is a fascinate android thread. The image I have is for the fascinate. I can walk you through doing everything with the files I have because I do it so much if you have the fascinate. I am sure there is someone more qualified to help you on here but, I will help in any way that I can. Someone else chime in if you have any better solutions.
[Fascinate Android Development] lacross:
fascinate , hah. old sig
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
Well I created an HTML file with the links to the files in my public dropbox account. I can send you the file and you can just download them if you want.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Details?

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] woolbeo:
Easiest way is to use syndtr's CWMrestore.zip from three-finger recovery, then install a mtd rom, and then restore previous backup.....
[Fascinate Android Development] jamesjones52:
+1
[Fascinate Android Development] bigjobber69:
r people getting dumber?
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
No we've always been dumb. It's just you getting smarter *cough cough*

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
JT has alot working on his ICS alphalulz v2 release.

What works:

Radio (Calls / 3G / SMS/MMS)

WiFi (have to manually add networks, very flaky ATM)

BT (pairs with my headset and works for calls, not sure about a2dp, etc)

Orientation sensors

GPS

capacitive buttons

sdcard

*** Update 11/18 ***

Fixed 3G

Fixed GPS

Fixed MMS

Fixed Market downloads (won't work until *after* the Market updates itself)

Fixed LED notifications

Fixed screen brightness

Disabled StrictMode (fixes weird red borders popping up all the time)
[Fascinate Android Development] bigjobber69:
duhhhhhhh, so does enyo now!
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
I can fix the signal bars. Ill work on it. Merge it as well.
[Fascinate Android Development] mkuehl06:
I thought you gave up on this since we haven't heard from you in a while.
[Fascinate Android Development] kuronosan:
I'm starting to be fairly sure that Enyo is a troll account and not a real person.
[Fascinate Android Development] :
Hater. Trolls are people too. :D
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Fixed signal bars. Don't know what jt wants me to do. If he even wants help.

And on another note, their weird. They are blue. Why blue. I'm thinking of also make a theme .apk for ics. (Make it colorful)
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
I won't upload my rom. But if wants, I'll give him the rom or the files I did to fix the signal bars.

And I'll also give him the updated market so it doesn't have to update by itself. But this is all if he wants.

I already fixed the bars, maybe he will want that.
[Fascinate Android Development] Vinnie981:
Why don't you upload a patch.zip that we can use on jt's or just upload your own rom
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
I'll just give him the files. So he can merge it into his rom.
[Fascinate Android Development] tripacer99:
||

V
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
Can each bar be a different color? Then when I have full signal its unicorns and frigin rainbows!
[Fascinate Android Development] sendan:
nyan cat theme!!!!!!!111111one!!!!!!!
[Fascinate Android Development] akellar:
Why blue? Did you bother to notice that the entire ui is blue?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Yes. But why blue? Honeycomb was blue isn't that enough?
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
Why don't u make a pull request like he says to in his thread rather than give.him files

(from jt's op)
[Fascinate Android Development] nklenchik:
I would love a theme apk! Such a good idea.
[Fascinate Android Development] Sheradrax:
I'm kind of disappointed... I'm only using jt's ics build till you got yours going. :/ it was exciting while it lasted.

sent from my creamed fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] Deltido:
I agree, I'm not loving ICS so much in general. Not sure if you were just talking about enyo's build or ICS in general. Maybe I would appreciate it more if it were stable. I'm not talking down Enyo's or JT's work, just ICS in general doesn't seem as fast as my TSM Pool Party rom (even when watching videos of the Gexus).
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
what more did you expect out of an alpha build?
[Fascinate Android Development] Sheradrax:
I'm saying that because enyo has been working so hard and now he is so close but he isn't finishing it. :(

sent from my creamed fascinate
[Fascinate Android Development] tripacer99:
You're comparing a fully developed and stable rom to an early-alpha build that's not even 4 days old? Uh...
[Fascinate Android Development] :
lol sorry I needed a good laugh tonight ;)
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Finally. The longest 45 minutes of my life. Source built rom and flashing now.
[Fascinate Android Development] dr_w:
Excellent. Do you mind telling us what is different than jt's? Thanks for your efforts.
[Fascinate Android Development] qipengart:
Wi-Fi doesn't work yet on alpha 5 build at the moment I presume correctly?
[Fascinate Android Development] droidrev71:
Mine is working
[Fascinate Android Development] jonagpa:
hey guys

quick question, i apologize if it has been answer before but, How do I use the home button. no matter what page i am in i cannot use it. is this normal for ics?
[Fascinate Android Development] kstyndall:
I have looked and don't see where it says it but, has enyo uploaded the new build yet? I like how his last build ran compared to JT's.
[Fascinate Android Development] mkuehl06:
I don't know if hes going to release it, hes been saying its done. Just like his espresso rom, and nothing on that either.

better to be safe than odining - me
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
I was uploading it today. It was going so slow. So ill upload it later.
[Fascinate Android Development] jonagpa:
another question, my phone does not show the lock screen, i tried changing the lock screen settings but no change. is this normal?
[Fascinate Android Development] mkuehl06:
Sorry dude, was just a long time with no updates or anything, I wasn't sure if jts build made you forget about this or not.

better to be safe than odining - me
[Fascinate Android Development] jtommyj:
Just some random observations...Alpha 5 "seems" much snappier than the jt iteration I was running. Wifi Much better on this rom than that one. Two major drawbacks imo are the no home button function and the no lockscreen as previously mentioned. Very nice job Enyo. And please no dis to jt who we all know has meant so much to us Fassy owners. Just my opinion.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
My espresso tweaks.
[Fascinate Android Development] jtommyj:
Thanks. Looking forward to the update!!!
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
One big drawback to ICS (all builds, including the one on the G-Nex): no Flash player support. Remember when we couldn't wait to get Froyo so we could view Flash-based websites?

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] bigjobber69:
Classic :)
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
why would google do something that dumb? flash is a must imo...what a bunch of bs!
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
I think (and hope) it's just that Adobe hasn't made a version yet that'll work on ICS. It bears mentioning, though, that Adobe recently announced they would no longer provide new versions of Flash for mobile phones (effectively EOL-ing it). They will continue to provide maintenance updates and bugfixes for the time being, though. I hope that includes making it work for ICS but I don't know...

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] Zacisblack:
I agree with the post about there Adobe not developing flash for ICS because they have effectively killed off mobile flash. At the same time, I did read an article about Google working on real time flash-to-HTML5 conversions. Also, if they release Chrome for Android, we will have flash support for the "desktop" and HTML5 support.
[Fascinate Android Development] DevinLeFevere:
Flash is dying.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead-for-mobile-devices/

Read on if you want to. Personally.... THANK ****ING GOD.
[Fascinate Android Development] nklenchik:
I can see the Apple fanboys rolling their eyes already...
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Looks like Flash will indeed make its way to ICS -> http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...on-ice-cream-san/&category=classic&postPage=1

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
Ahh.....Niceness!
[Fascinate Android Development] Mean Sixteen:
Thought I would chime in with this...

Adobe announced they will update with ics support.

Sent through mental Telepathy!
[Fascinate Android Development] cesium:
Look two posts above you...
[Fascinate Android Development] joshkoss:
off topic posts cleaned yet again...

Back on topic guys.. This behavior is very poor. i hope y'all feel

ashamed

for how you are treating the op.