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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Griffrez:
OK. I agree with all of this.

Nexus line is great, it can overwhelm phones from 2 generations ahead.

The screen resolution is great too. Pentile doesn't even matter, the resolution almost omits its presence.

ICS. Much smoother. Much more customization. Much more versatile and beautiful.

The CPU it more than enough. People are *****ing about "OH ****! Only 1.2GHz?!", but really, that's way more than enough, unless you're a benchmark bug. "Yo! I got a phone that already runs everything great, but I just want a better one because I want 10k Quadrant points...! Fuuuuuu!"

When you say "Non-Expandable Storage", no phone has that. Even SD compatible phones are limited to xGB size SD card maximum. For example, the RAZR will have a maximum of 48 GB because 16 internal + 32 SD Maximum = 48. And also, 32 GB of super fast NAND memory is great. I don't know what you want to ***** about. You wanna have super HD videos and/or photos? Just keep putting them on your PC instead of mass storing them on your phone without need.

The lack of Gorilla Glass is well put under Mixed Opinions, since it might mean something BETTER than Gorilla Glass. The Nexus S had a very very resistive glass technology/material.

The outdated GPU: Did anyone prove that this GPU is outdated? In terms of sufficient performance for Android platform? Did anyone show that? I don't think so. And you don't too. I think people are just *****ing about it the same way I explained it for the CPU.

Lack of physical buttons: I think this is an element that Google decided to have because it can enable much much more creativity. I believe that CM team or Google itself will unlock a way of changing the button icon, or even add or remove buttons. I think it is really great, and it probably also cuts down a bit on prices since physical buttons are basically a touch-capable screen/membrane for each button, which would possibly cost a little bit instead of making a little bigger screen for buttons.

Exclusiveness: Not a problem in my country, I believe, so, no comments here.

Price: Pretty much unknown, but I'm expecting a 500 ~ 600€ range (700 ~ 800$).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kidserious:
A 1.2 dual-core exynos is better than a 1.5 dual-core qualcomm. And a brand new OMAP 4460 1.2 dual-core is at the very least equaled to, if not better than, the 1.5 qualcomm as snapdragon's are probably the lesser performing of processors available

sent from your mom's bed
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kidserious:
What? GTFO and get a gay iphone then.

sent from your mom's bed
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lawalty:
DITTO!!! WTF are folks complaining about with this type of hardware being outdated??? Huh??? Outdated??? We're talking about 1.2 dual-core proc that will be fitt'in in something that can put in your front shirt pocket, along with a multi-touch screen, and enough memory that you wouldn't be able to shake a stick at!

Anyway, i'm sure enough looking for the 32gb version.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vash1053:
You got trolled, son.

Anyway!

Pros:

- ICS

- Google supported

- LTE-capable

- NFC

Cons:

- Pentile

- Weak GPU
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xManMythLegend:
Pros-

Just about everything not listed as con.

Cons-

No pricing or availability word yet !!!!!!!

Bezel size of top and bottom and thickness. Would have liked to have seen something pushing limits for the Nexus line.

Weak GPU - Scares the crap out of me in terms of GUI.

Not clear what the DAC is.

AMOLED will likely have bluish tints on white and push reds.

Vid clips on YT seem to show inconsistent framerate in HD videos. I hate choppiness and I get this weird feeling the UI and HD videos will simply not be as smooth as they should be.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Darmokk:
No one has to 'prove' the gpu is outdated, the specs and how long its been around (since 2007) already prove that.

The gpu in the OMAP 4460 is definitely slower than the mali 400 in the exynos, as well as the A5 in the iPhone4S.

Id wager its on par, or maybe even slightly slower than the qualcomm in my tmobile galaxy SII.

Its not the end of the world, and i have no doubt the nexus is gonna be a powerful device, but its not Samsungs flagship.

Samsung is saving the 1.5ghz exynos and other goodies for the next round of battle against the iPhone5 it looks like
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kidserious:
Lol, yea maybe. However, I would rather get trolled than leave a potential douchebag comment/post unaddressed.

sent from your mom's bed
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
There is no phone out there that uses the PowerVR SGX540 at 384MHz. Only the OMAP4460 has the SGX540 at that clock speed. So in reality, we don't know anything about the GPU that's in the Galaxy Nexus. Remember, the GPU is not a standalone chip, it's a part of the SoC, and it's possible that only the advances made in the OMAP4460 allowed the SGX540 to run at 384MHz. So until we know how well the SGX540 performs at that clock speed, we can't say if it's slow or outdated.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AMoosa:
Con-

5mp camera vs the 8mp on my sgs2...

This is the only thing putting me off, although i'll probably get one anyways. :-P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Maddmatt:
It's not a con, not as far as we know. Scarified MP for low-light performance and quality. But we still need to see proper comparisons.

The video samples so far are very good...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wu_wei_lion:
I haven't read the entire thread but to answer the 1.2 ghz processor concern this is most likely due to battery life concerns. The OMAP 4460 is rated up to 1.5 ghz and is underclocked in the galaxy nexus. "Overclocking" to 1.5 ghz will be stably achieved in no time.

P.S. I just ordered the UK version from Clove. I'll be checking my mail every day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xavi77:
con: less screen space due to buttons on screen. i want full screen games!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GreatBigDog:
The buttons will be hidden when playing full screen games or watching full screen video.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xavi77:
sure?

guerrilla bob (the only one i've seen on youtube) got the three buttons active while playing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ladrero:
Buttons are hidden throughout the game
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xavi77:
maybe, but then i see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paDABBppckk&t=9m53s

how can we go home (or another task) while playing, if we don't have home button active?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ladrero:
Now we don't now for certain, I would like to see some built-in game.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FISKER_Q:
Pretty sure it was said that only the videos can go fullscreen, the best any other apps can do is "dim" the buttons, they can't remove them.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
Hey guys,

One question, why is this point so important for you?

Isn't it possible to simply buy it in a shop?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FISKER_Q:
Words cannot begin to describe how messed up american telecoms are compared to the european counterparts.

Basically it's the carriers who sell the phones, and by their rules, mostly this was caused by America not using a standardized frequency spectrum, making it impossible to have phones that worked for all networks back then.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mosec:
My biggest concern about this phone is the battery life. I bought sgs2 this summer and got rid of it because of lousy battery life. I went back to iPhone 4.

Do you guys think ics will handle battery better? I really hope so because I would like to enjoy android but battery life puts me off
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cheetohz:
If it is sold on the verizon network, that radio will not work on any of the other carriers. It is simmilar to purchasing an AM radio, taking it home and trying to listen to an FM frequency. Or buying a big Diesel truck and trying to fill it with regular petrol. Verizon runs on a unique frequency, so if it were a verizon exclusive, you would be able to only utilize the verizon network with this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cheetohz:
Also, I am seeing tons of you with requests to be added to the list, all without valid arguments. What alot of you are complaining about is a bunch of unconfirmed rumors. If you'd like, request it to be added to the mixed opinions section with a note that it is only a rumor.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GreatBigDog:
Pros

No carrier bloatware

Unlocked bootloader

First to get Jelly bean (or whatever they will call it)

No manufactures UI on top of android.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
... ish - Google will launch another Nexus phone for this -> which means the Galaxy Nexus may be the first to be upgraded to JB, but not the first to have it - that will be the Nexus x then.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Griffrez:
Good point, but I'm pretty sure that is what he/she meant.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GreatBigDog:
Yep, that is what I meant.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lil Jones:
The biggest con so far

Biggest con so far is that we don't have it yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
And the rumour that the 32GB version is coming later than the 16GB version. I really hope that's not true I can't wait much longer^^.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kunalparwani:
16 GB, given the lack of sd card support, will definitely be a no-go...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ElecEngineer1422:
Jelly Bean/Design/Pros,Cons

(pure opinion)

I think Jelly Bean/next android version will be out before the next nexus phone. Ice Cream Sandwich + Jelly Bean was supposed to be the original ICS, but they ran out of time and had to split it into 2 updates to compete with many other phones coming out. That is why we are already are hearing leaks of Jelly Bean.

Design:

I think that they did really well on the design for the hurdles they faced. They needed a reference platform early to debug one of the largest android updates. They redesigned android and had to make it compatible with old tablet and phone apps while improving a multitude of hardware compatibility issues.

Pros:

- size - despite the 4.65" screen size it is not much bigger than other phones with 4.3",4.5" displays

- 4.65" + 720P display

- LTE model having 1850mah - an extra 100mah over the GSM model with only 0.02" Increase in thickness

- ICS

- NFC

- OMAP 4460 processor

- Potential - though it is listed as Bluetooth 3.0+HS the hardware can Handel Bluetooth 4.0+HS. Who knows what else. I hope the FM transceiver is also implemented in the hardware that already supports it.

- pogo contacts for easy dock charging

Cons:

- MHL used over separate standard micro HDMI preventing simultaneous HDMI and USB host features. Only hope is for pogo contacts to pickup one of the features

- MHL adapter requires external power to use HDMI out making it more difficult to show quick presentations and photos on a big screen.

- No micro SD, but 32Gb + USB host adapter will do alright.

- No mention of a DLNA or similar standard.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] killbox:
What? does it need to be connected to a charger to able to show on external monitor using MHL :/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ElecEngineer1422:
probably not if you have an MHL compatible TV, but from my research I have found that with the Galaxy S II that uses the same MHL chip you need the charger plugged into the MHL to HDMI adapter, it's not just an option to charge the phone while using the adapter. It is definitely required.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yoni45:
Whoa -- hang on. Mind elaborating on this (or, anyone)?

This is my one reservation with the phone -- I love the idea of what can be done with Bluetooth 4.0, and wouldn't want to be restricted on that count. What's the reasoning behind saying it can handle Bluetooth 4.0? Any evidence?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AznInertia:
FYI, Galaxy Nexus TECHNICALLY has a 1.5ghz, it is just underclocked to 1.2 (probably to save on battery). iPhone 4S is a 1ghz processor underclocked to 800mhz

Here is the spec sheet, Galaxy Nexus uses the Texas Instrument OMAP 4460, the spec is near the mid/bottom of the webpage...

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...ntId=53243&navigationId=12843&templateId=6123
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ElecEngineer1422:
from engadget

"WiFi / Bluetooth module: Broadcom BCM4330 (same as in the Galaxy S II)"

Titled: Behind the glass: a detailed tour inside the Samsung Galaxy Nexus

(because I am a noob I cannot post links yet) (some one want to find and post the link?)

If you google the broadcom BCM4330 and click on the broadcom link you will find that this chipset is Bluetooth 4.0+HS compatible. I could not find and datasheets on the pin out of the chip though. A big component of Bluetooth 4.0 is a low power protocol that I assume uses the same antenna, so maybe a software update later?

As far as the FM transceiver I have since read that the history shows that Samsung has added an additional FM chip for it, so it may not be hooked up, though FM is listed as an output/input in the same engadget article.

we'll have to just see what happens, I have not even heard of a single Bluetooth 4.0 accessory yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
I'd say cons are:

No removable sd

Battery would of been better at 2000 mah

Better if it was true RGB no pentile, but not really a concern ( I know its not possible yet)

Better if quad-core

Would of preferred separate HDMI output/input

No price or availability on tmobile

Other than this I'd say perfect. For me these are minor cons none deal breakers. They are small.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cheetohz:
Sorry your post had to be the one I picked, so don't feel singled out or that I feel you have bad reasoning, because like you said, not deal breakers.

But anyways, I hear everyone saying, this phone "would be better if..." it was a quad core, 1.5Ghz, etc... Sure, there is always something better. Doesn't make this phone any lesser of a phone than any others on the market or will be on the market within reasonable time. My house would be better if it had another bathroom, would be better if it wasn't painted blue, not a thing wrong with my current house, will I ever have an absolute need for another bathroom? Doubt it. Will my house spontaneously combust because it is blue? No, it is perfectly fine and anything more would go to waste.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Grev Elling:
Anyone have an opinion whether or not it will be able to smoothly output .mkv@1080p to an external TV?

Just so i got this straight: lets say you want to watch a movie from an external hdd; you can then mount the HDD to the USB port and then plug your charger into the HDMI adapter (the phone will then charge)?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
I understand, but these are MY cons, and my opinion and frankly this is what the thread is about :).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] clearym:
I am happy with pretty much everything about the GN. My only complaint is that it was announced on 10/18-19 and as of today 11/2 we still don't have an official price or US launch date. This is especially baffling to me considering that the announcement was delayed a week. I don't understand this strategy of announcing a product without launch info. I've seen others saying that this is what they did last year with the NS, but I'm fairly certain the NS was announced on 12/6 and was on sale in stores (in the US) on 12/16.

Sorry that this is so ?country-centric?, I know the UK has a launch date and pre-order price...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blunden:
You can not have HDMI output (via MHL over microusb) and something else connected to the USB-port at the same time. It should be able to play back 1080p to the TV if the file is stored on the phone though.

NOTE: I have not heard anything specific about MKV support but I have seen source for a Matroska splitter so hopefully it will work out of the box. We'll just have to wait for now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] teiglin:
I won't be replacing my dedicated htpc any time soon for two reasons. First, the 1080p movies I have run anywhere from 5-15GB. That's just an absurd space requirement relative to the Nexus' available storage, though it should stream okay over a clean wifi connection. Second, without hardware support for 10-bit profiles in x.264, the processor will definitely not be able to play these smoothly. My SGS2 already stutters on 720p hi10p playback; 1080p definitely requires a desktop-class processor to play smoothly in software.

My conclusion: if you want to use a GN (or any phone, really) as a home theater device, make sure you have a wifi source available, and stick to high profile h.264 so it's small enough to stream but still able to be handled by gpu.

No idea about out of the box handling of mkv, but there are plenty of players on the Market that will handle the splitting just fine, so I don't care about that at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jebus99:
I think it should be able to handle it fine (and one of the reasons that Google went with the OMAP series. It has a dedicated video accelerator for HD content (outside of the GPU) - the IVA3. It's features are:

Full HD 1080p30 multi-standard video encode/decode

Hardwired codecs deliver high performance at low power levels

Programmable DSP provides flexibility for future codecs VTC 1080p30

It should allow for smooth playback of HD content without even utilising the GPU making it fast and power efficient.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nikosrs4:
will we be able to store files larger than 4gb in internal storage? what file system do these memories have?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SBS_:
It will most likely be ext4 on internal storage and that at least supports file sizes of up to 16 terabytes, but I guess we'll see what file system it is on launch.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NexusDro:
Pros:

Almost everything about the phone other than the cons.

Cons:

top and bottom bezel could be smaller.

still a bit skeptical about the camera. hopefully it's one of the best 5mp phone cameras.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wobbu:
Hints at Battery Life

Came across this screenshot from Engadget's hands-on:

It's a preview unit, but it looks like it drains 70% over 2.5 hours with screen on. The 4.65" SAMOLED screen really kills battery :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blunden:
That's probably with very heavy usage since it's a press unit. The screen, like on any other phone, will still take up most of the battery usage so that is in no way indicative of normal battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FISKER_Q:
If "Phone Idle" is sleep then a bit over 4 hours seem decent.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kristovaher:
72% battery use for screen is not much at all. My Desire currently says 79% has gone to screen. This implies that the GN unit, where the screenshot is from, has been used for more intensive things than screen, implying active use (as expected from press unit). In reality I'm thinking GN should take 80% of battery during regular use.

I'm sure GN will not survive as long as Desire does, considering that it has larger resolution screen and a dual core processor with just slightly better battery (1750mAh compared to 1440 mAh), but I am sure it does not have problems getting through a regular workday with data connection active at all times.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KeithRVA:
I'm slightly concerned that the GN won't have lightning fast gps lock, or really good reception and voice call quality. Things I really appreciate about my moto x2, and my previous Samsungs had issues with.

Sent from my DROID X2 running Eclipse v1.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wobbu:
I'm not really referring to the "72%" since that is relative, but instead referring to the graph above which shows about 70% of the battery being drained in 4.5 hrs, half of which was in idle mode. That works out to 3.5hrs of constant use.

Benchmarks and reviews put average total wifi browsing time for other phones at 5 hrs, so it doesn't seem to awful.

Then again, that was a test unit so let's hope the battery life won't let us down :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
How can you tell the screen was on for 2.5 hours?

The device is removed from the charger since 4h and 26 minutes.

And If you look at the blue bar under the graph you can see that the awake all the time. So it was on for probably a longer time?

In addition the 72% Scree don't mean the display used 72% of the battery it used 72% of 87%.

We also don't know was the screen brightness set to auto, high or the minimum.

Any Android phone which I used until now(N1, NS, SGS II, Desire) was capable of around 3h screen. Brightness set on auto, data and 3G on.

And by the way. Dual-Core CPUs need less power then single CPUs especially compared to the old Desire.

Edit: Right at the end of the line you can see that the phone crashed and lost quite a bit of juice.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
Nevermind, didn't look carefully enough.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] katamari201:
Had a few observations was wondering if anyone noticed.

1. One of the hands-on (Engadget maybe?) said the textured back cover was softer than the GS2 one. Is that true? I've only heard them say it and everyone else just saying its a carbon copy of the GS2 one. Either one has bad memory or the others are not attentive. I hated the GS2 itchy pokey back cover, so if they changed it that would be nice. So which is it?

2. I've always been bothered by the blue tint and excessively loud blues on SuperAMOLED screens (I owned three Samsung devices already with them). I was thinking of switching over to an LCD-based smartphone like say one of the SuperLCDs HTC phones have. However, I'm getting the feeling they toned it down for the Galaxy Nexus. The blues are not so loud and the blue tint on whites is far less noticeable. Could it just be the ICS UI playing tricks, or maybe the brightness was set low on the demo units? It's the same look on all the videos I've seen. The screen looks more subdued and not as blazingly bright and colorful like say the previews of the Samsung Wave/Galaxy S/Galaxy S II were. If it was because of the brightness, usually when you set the brightness low the whites on webpages get really blue, but I didn't notice that occuring. The personal preview units (like GSMArena one) where the phone is used outside of the Hong Kong venue and have ideal lighting also have the same subdued look. Maybe its all just wishful thinking.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ECrispy:
Con - not a world phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sjael:
May I ask how long you owned them for? Just because I'm sure I remember reading that Samsung give the blues a boost because the blue sub-pixels naturally lose about that amount of brightness over the course of a month or so, and you should end up with much more neutral colors.

As for the battery cover on the Nexus, most the hands-on videos I've seen say "Soft touch like the SGS2" but most of the in-depth reviews say that it's like the SGS2 on crack. It's meant to be some new 'tech' from Samsung called Hyper Skin. I'm thinking it's a fancy name for Rubberized Patterned Plastic. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
The Verizon one isn't. The GSM model is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
Impregnated with carbon fiber, hopefully.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] katamari201:
I owned the Samsung Wave (penTile SuperAMOLED) for about 5 months, the Galaxy S (penTile superAMOLED) for about 4 months, and I think the Infuse (RGB SuperAMOLED+) for only 2 months. The Wave I had the longest but I never saw a decrease in excessive blues, nor for the others either. The excessive blues are because they have a short lifespan, so it wouldn't make sense if the blues suddenly toned done after a month or two because that would mean they were dying off real rapidly and would be gone in another month. That would be weird if it dropped significantly in one month and then cruised along at a trickle for the rest.

Was also hoping the back texture would be softer, like the T-mobile variant of the Galaxy S II, which feels nice. Was thinking of getting that first, but then saw the nice Galaxy Nexus design (excluding the back cover material) and the 720p ICS UI with the nice crisp fonts and was wowed. Man its always a compromise though. Still don't really know if the back texture is softer or not though. These hands-on blogs never go into the finer details...

Anyone know if people actually make replacement back covers with different materials? Like for the Galaxy S/Nexus S/Galaxy S II, so there might be a possibility for the Galaxy Nexus having them as well?