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[Acer Iconia A500] jon-.-:
So I've read in a few places that the fling stick does not work if you have invisible shield on your screen, because its to "sticky".

I know the Invisible Shield is sticky for the first couple weeks or so but it always becomes smooth as glass like I have it now.

My question is has anyone been able to use the two products together?
[HTC Sensation] nkon:
Is there a way to put the live sense lockscreen (with animations) on a non sense rom? The only reason I'm on a sense rom right now is for the lockscreen, but the non sense roms are so much more practical in that they're SO much smoother, faster, and better on battery life. I don't use any of the other sense features, I just love the lockscreen. Anyone know if there's a way to put it on a non sense (like cm7-based) rom?
[HTC Sensation] the-other-gordo:
Check out Widgetlocker. I'm pretty sure there's a theme that's identical to the Sense lock-ring. Not sure about the animations.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AwaisKhan:
ive read that sony are thinking about making more high end andoird devices Playstation certified? Could they?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dn*:
From what I gather, the "Playstation Certified" certification is to be expanded, though the lack of PSOne titles being released suggests they may be slowing up.

In the UK, there is a consensus that the launch of the Xperia Play was a bit of a flop which seems to be why it's been possible to get it relatively easily for less than £200 here which might lend to idea that there won't be a 'sequel'.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Alpha Gamer:
The last i heard on the subject, SE thought the Play still had plenty of mileage left in it so they were looking to support that for longer instead of doing Play 2 already
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JasonKnight:
Verizon Wireless in the states is already trying to get rid of it's stock, $49.99 with 2 year contract, came out at $200 with a contract. They are discontinuing it due to lack of sales. Problem was on TV they were advertising the Droid 3, On Hulu they were doing the same advertisement for the Xperia Play.

My only complaint about the Xperia is lack of CDMA development and it's poor amount of on board memory.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silvacrest:
well, i had another theory, yes, the play didn't sell well in the UK/elsewhere, but i think its being heavily discounted/discontinued now because a play 2 is coming and now that there is no sony ericsson, sony will probably want to integrate a PSP into a phone rather then whatever the play was supposed to be

also, look at most android phones, most of them have sequels, even the unsuccessful ones

the possibilities of a true PSP phone are to great for sony to just abandon the idea now, especially after SE's half assed attempt
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogue Leader:
When I got mine like 3 months ago the guy at the verizon store was shocked I asked for it, had 1 in stock, and almost asked me if I was on crack for even wanting it.

Meanwhile its the best 50 bucks I ever spent.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deleted member 2488575:
Well remember the recent news that Sony has purchased the other half of Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson said they don't plan on launching an Xperia Play 2 soon but now that Sony is 100% in charge, I expect something big.

I mean the Xperia Play was outdated on launch. The only thing it had going for it was the gamepad (and dual speakers :))

I want a dual core or quad core Xperia Play and I am expecting one to come out next year.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 216Monster:
Every time I call verizon the tech on the phone always asks me If I like my xperia play, Ive had maybe 3 months now and I woulda thought they just stop asking about it, maybe there checking Im not dis-pleased , nonetheless I paid 72$ and cant complain.. playing final fantasy 7 on my phone is priceless
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AwaisKhan:
Yeah i heard about sony buying out Sony Ericsson, would like it if they did release a sequel or something to sort themselves out :D
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
You really need to stop jumping on the dual core wagon! Neither android nor any applications are optimised for dual core CPU's, meaning even with the extra power there is no performance increase :rolleyes:
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swebosdev:
I always wanted a portable emu. Xplay will be used by me for many years to come. The fact that i can make a phone call, sms, go on the internet, and take pic/video with it is just gravy. Imho this is the best device i have ever owned.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clienterror:
QFT I went from an Atrix (1.3ghz OC) to the XP and I can tell you as far as speed there is no difference. I would like to have a little more ram in the XP but it's not a big deal. When I get rid of the XP I hope there's a XP2 or something because I'll go through serious withdraws.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swebosdev:
I agree, dual ccore on a phone is currently a marketing scam. What good is a second core if it cant be used?

Maybe a few years from now there will be a dual core capable os but right now there isnt.

On top of that when there is all current dual core phones will be long discontinued

If you got a phone becuase its dual core just call yourself a sucker
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deleted member 2488575:
I understand that but most new developers are only releasing their games on what they call "Powerful dual core devices"

The Xperia Play is the only device that could fully use dual core because it is a real gaming phone. I'm really surprised that it wasn't more powerful. I meant at least put in that 1.4ghz processor in the ARC S. The whole Xperia Line should have launched with that processor.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deoxlar:
Sonys ps certification announcement meant they will start licensing PS certified to other manufacturers so that they can expand their market. I'm thinking they want to eventually certify it to all android phones. It doesn't necessarily need a playpad for sony to certify it.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pandasouljah:
Agreed. However if we are talking about a possible late 2012 release for the 'play 2' then can we assume there will have been more development put into the dual/quad core apps/os etc.? Especially with devices like the transformer prime coming soon, the quad cores are sure to implemented in phones next year.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
Understood and agreed, but my comment was aimed at the fact that some people think the play is underpowered for the current generation of mobile, but the fact is although on paper the play is nothing special. The way android is atm and thanks to a couple of tricks by sony like dual channel ram, the play gamewise can hold it's own with any of the current generation of mobile, including dual core phones like the atrix :D

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Afaik ICS will be optimised for dual core phones, Thats pretty obvious as the Galaxy Nexus (The official google developer phone for ICS) will be a dual core device :)
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Erikwithafro:
If they make a new device, Sony needs to implement actual analog sticks, not these touch pads. It would truly utilize the potential of a gaming phone and be commercially acceptable to everyone who doesn't want to deal with touch pads, especially the FPS loving crowd. The ONLY other thing I really wish the Xplay had was physical analog sticks (something like the PSP, or what the Vita will have). Sony needs to learn how to make the sticks pop out when the phone slides up. THAT would be wicked righteous amirite???:cool:
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clienterror:
ICS may be more optimized for dual core phones, unfortunately apps still won't be so I don't think everyone is going to see the improvement they're expecting. Heck there really aren't even many multi core apps for computers besides some games and graphic design programs. Just my .02
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannejanne:
Pretty much true yes. With ICS dual-core support will be supported as far as I know. But then it's also up to the develeper to add support for it in the app I belive?

I really notice no difference in speed on things when using my Play or my work buddies Samsung Galaxy SII. I need no dual-core that sucks more battery.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
AFAIK, dual core socs(except htc) are based off ARM a9, which is 30-100% faster per clock than equivelent ARM a8 which is the base of our cpu. not only that but there is 2 of them for the purpose of future proofing when the software catches up.

tbh i think you all sitting here bagging on dual core is VERY short sighted and a bit ignorant.

recently we find some games are now gonna be coming out saying dual core only, and yet you still sit here on your high horse about it being useless.

apart from cost, the play probably suffered a very long development cycle and the soc used in our phones happens to be very efficient under load(more gaming time), and as part of the apparent unification of the se xperia line hardware base they probably didnt have much choice if they wanted to provide sufficient updates to keep us happy. there are multiple reasons this phone isnt dual core, one of them isnt negligible performance benefit, so dont kid yourself into thinking such.

I love my play, but sitting here saying dual core would have been bad is bone headed.

in saying all that, bring on my quad core multi gpu soc xplay2!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
Your the one kidding yourself, you might as well be sat there in a ferarri with wheels off a wheelbarrow, chatting about how big your engine is, with no way to transfer that power to the road all you have is a wheelbarrow mate, it dosent matter how much quicker the the cpu is if the kernel or os can't use it.

Ooooh wow games for dual core only phones? Never seen that before.... Oh wait yeah i have, samuri 2 vengence, riptide, shaddowgun. But they all end up on the single core play and they all look and play exactly the same so explain that!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 216Monster:
I thought I saw a post on engadget about dual cores that the second core only kicks on when the first core is running at max and the system is demanding or needing more.

Wouldnt that be a performance increase ?
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clienterror:
I'm not sure what CPU they tested but on my "Old" Atrix the CPU clock speeds were linked so if this is true you'd be wasting a ton of power by ramping up the 2nd core even though it isn't being used. Doesn't make much sense.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
Wow, stop progress here folks, all I own is a wheel barrow, not only do I want a slower CPU that has a lower ipc, but future proofing my hardware is apparently completely redundant as well, as I said the a9 is already 30-100% faster than an a8 per clock, how you can sit there and say you wouldn't rather a faster phone? I hope you don't overclock, because that would be completely stupid, better to run the phone at 122mhz, and save your battery.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
Why would i want to future proof my phone :rolleyes: c'mon guys were talking about a phone here not a house. I don't intend to keep it longer than a year. Infact i'm already saving up for a galaxy nexus. And mael5trom i understand what your saying and i agree, my point is, with this CURRENT level of software dual core devices offer no performance increase over single core. I'm not saying when ICS comes out phone like the GS2 won't destroy the play performance wise, but atm they don't cause gingerbread won't let them :p
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
I disagree, a9 is still much faster per core so a performance increase is still very apparent even in gingerbread. However I will agree that the majority of software currently available does not necessarily require that level of power, exempting some emulators.

The reason I speak of future proofing is because of the plays unique form factor, we have no idea if or when Sony will release another, so longevity may become important in the long run for some of us.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroHero:
I think the Playstion certified project has lots of potential, I have even heard talk of Sony selling the "Playstation certified" licence to other companies. So in the future we may even see Playstation certified devices made by HTC or Samsung :D
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
A Samsung playstation phone would be nice, i'm waiting to see some kinda support from other big manufacturers before I get too excited about them though, hopefully Sony doesn't screw it up.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speedyink:
Can you post the source please, I can't find anything on it.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
It was a write up on anandtech when tegra 2 was released, they had a massive in depth on the a9 chip, you should be able to find it there, as for the HTC dual cores they are snapdragon derivatives not based on a9, its a customized a8 from Qualcomm.

I would find you the article but i'm on my phone at work, not much time. Sorry.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swebosdev:
Futureproof a cell phone i lol hard on that one.

Its like when amd just came out with a 64 bit cpu when there was no software for it. You got it to future proof your computer. Problem was by the time just the operating system caught up with 64 bit futureproof cpu they were so out of date everyone ditched them for newer models.

There is no such thing as future proof people, its called early adopters as those guys always get the shaft
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speedyink:
Thanks I found it. That is a really interesting article, loads of info.

Also cleared up my confusion with the numbers. Still an increase but not as insane.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4098/...-more-architectural-details-and-design-wins/2

It's also worth noting that the Scorpion in the Play is not a stock A8, so I would expect the margins to be different.

All in all as of yet there's no huge difference. Well, until the software catches up. Time will tell how long that will take.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogue Leader:
This is a Cellphone we are talking about. How many people do you know that actually keep a phone beyond 2 years? Heck many I know barely keep theirs a year. The Xperia Play does the job NOW, and will be doing the job for a long while. When dual core optimization is ubiquitous and completely supported by everything that comes out, there will likely be a Play 2. And many of us will be ready to update our contracts.

I do however feel for people who can't get it on contract and have to buy unlocked. This is the first phone I actually believed it to be worth it though.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noojster:
Based on searches and other blogs, there's no plan for XP2 yet, more of XP1 support..

So far Im happy with this phone except for the 400mb internal storage which really sucked.

Still have to bother loading an sd-ext to use with link2sd.. :(
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
I'm not complaining about the phone, merely pointing out that some already available technologies could have been used to improve the experience now and into the future, I do understand why they were done from se viewpoint though.

I don't know about some here, but I definitely feel the difference between 1GHz and 1.5GHz,some 64 games require around 1.5 to play smooth at all. Amd64 is completely irrelevant here for 2 reasons, the software support isn't coming in 2-3 years time, its coming in 2-3 months time, the lifecycle in the phone market ATM completely outpaces anything desktops have seen in many years, also 64 bit as a technology required a large commitment from many areas of the industry, ice cream sandwich is simply an update that will make you're 2nd core work (harder?)

That's funny, I feel terrible for those in America being forced into contacts and being pretty much unable to run one phone on another of the major networks, every contract I've ever priced, it has been far cheaper to buy the handset (but not from the carrier) outright and pay prepaid equivalent. And it comes with the added benefits of being able to replace my handset whenever I want and swap carriers whenever I want. Excluding cdma altogether you can't even buy a handset that works between atnt and Tmobile which are gsm carriers, it's a complete joke.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannejanne:
True that. I never ever buy a phone with contract for obvious reasons as you listed.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Logseman:
There is something that we should bear in mind. For emulation purposes, the Play is actually future proof. New dual core models may emulate FPSE and N64	marginally better, but a possible Xperia Play 2 won't be able to emulate Playstation 2 games, as that would require a lot more of beef than dual core and 1 GB ram can provide.

That means, even if eventually new games become incompatible, this phone will still be able to emulate anything that a dual core phone could.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannejanne:
For me that pretty much only emulate NES, SNES and PSX, the phone is definitely future proof!
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mael5trom:
The creator of bsnes has a nice writeup on emulation accuracy as a way to preserve history, why its important, blah blah, basically saying emulation has an exponential resource curve as u get closer and closer to 100% accuracy of the console....ie nesticle ran on a 50mhz machine(80% of games) and nestopia(99.99% of games) runs on 1ghz+

Emulators on our phones currently arnt anywhere near 100% accurate, they might be 70-80% accurate and work for 9/10 of the more popular titles (because the emulator has alot of custom hacks inbuilt to make certain games run properly)

so as phone hardware improves we can (hopefully) expect emulation accuracy to improve on the older consoles and particularly things like the n64...which, whilst good for some games is a complete hackjob atm and works on maybe half of the titles or less, as the hardware improves devs will hopefully try to leverage that and create more accurate emulators.(and i can one day have a 64 emulator that plays body harvest)

its sad that there really isnt any accurate n64 emulators on pc, and there isnt any on the horizon that i can see, our snes/megadrive phone emulators are ports of moderately accurate pc emulators and we are fast running out of reasonably good emulators to port. my phone CAN play some n64 games, but i really wouldnt call it a good emulator of 64 games as such.

We need WAY faster hardware b4 we can get any of the more modern systems emulated with any degree of accuracy and reliability. Bsnes dev reckons an accurate n64 emu would take approx 100ghz pc. Even for our phones decent n64 emulation may still be a few ghz away, what we have does the job for the moment but isnt ideal.

i kinda lost the point of this post but what im saying is what we actually have in terms of emulation on this phone has a fair way to go even on the systems we can play, and chances are our phone wont be fast enough when they get developed, (im not saying dual core will, it will prob be just as crap as ours by then) we may see a hackjob ps2 emulator early next year on a15, perhaps followed by a better n64 emu requiring alot more oomph than what we have atm.

TLDR: hardware and software for emulators are constantly moving targets, and they push higher and higher as the hardware becomes powerful enough to manage. The Xperia play isnt even future proof for accurate snes emulation let alone psx or 64 or beyond.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannejanne:
I've always wondered why so much power is needed to emulate accurately on a PC/Phone. I mean the original consoles are so so old and in terms of hardware they are obsolete since long ago. Still todays phones can't make them run as well with brute power.

Though. I'm perfectly fine with the level of accuracy todays emulators brings for the consoles I am playing on. I don't really miss anyting at all.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogue Leader:
America is its own worst enemy when it comes to that. Everyone here has it stuck in their heads that they gotta have it RIGHT NOW, and also they want it for nothing. If you had a cell company that all your phones were unlocked, cost $500 or whatever, BUT the same contract from you would be $39.99 vs $69.99 everywhere else, you would have no business and be gone in a year. Because people love being able to go in the store, and walk out with the newest toy for little to no money out of pocket. And all they think are in payments (I can afford $70/mo lets pay less for the phone). Happens with cars all the time, people hunt for the $0 or $1k down deals, and finance the car for "low monthly payments" meanwhile they are upside down in the car after a year, and they have 7 years of payments to make on a car that they are gonna hate in 3 because something new came out. Then they trade their car in, and roll the payments over and pay "a little more" every month to cover that loss, which they justify with "well now I'm driving a new car".

On top of that people break their phones all the time (and don't have insurance) so they end up paying the non-contract price to replace them anyway (my sister is notorious for this). Or better theres people who need to have the newest toy all the time so they start up a second contract just to get another phone. Finally theres complete idiots like this guy in my firehouse who HAD TO have the iPhone 4S 64 gb but was mid contract, and basically spent $950 to get it, then told me he was disappointed in it.

Because basically Emulation isn't about brute power. Emulation requires the complete workings of the devices processor to be created in memory on your platform, and then fool the games into looking for it there. Most people creating emulators are not the original designers of the device, so they have to reverse engineer it. Its a time consuming arduous task and theres a lot of openings for mistakes.

This is also why the built in Emulator works so well (for the games that work on it).
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Logseman:
Everybody's golf runs better in FPSE than the paid version, in my experience
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nextron:
I think it will be named Sony PLAY S when yes.
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clienterror:
I hope they at least let other manufactures use the sony certified controller set up when I upgrade. If there isn't a XP2 or something else with a controller I'll defiantly go through withdraws from no controller :) .
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steelmm:
I dont know why u guys want another duel core xperia play

Its a fast device still plenty if power in this device as sony ericcson says it does not need updating yet its powerful enough as it is.you cant inprove this device asbits agood as the iphone 4s. Only the camera side maybe thats all. The overall performance is great is androud has its hangs but thats the software nit hardware issues. Duel core is just a marketing ploy to sell more phones to make more money.

Nobody needs a duel core phone for playing games and surfing the web at the same time!!! Impossible

This hardware does the job good and with sony buying Ericsson out good for them its just an investment deal only nit to take control over the se division to change it

Thanks
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AwaisKhan:
LOL, ive learned alot ;D
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Growling Clover:
I second this

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