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[Galaxy S II General] calvenyow:
Samsung Italy has reportedly confirmed which of the Korean company’s Android devices will receive an Ice Cream Sandwich update, with models such as the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 each supposedly in line for a 4.0 upgrade. The Italian arm of the firm listed the GSII and the Tab 10.1, HDBlog claims, along with the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Tab 7.7 and Tab 7.0 Plus as all being eligible for a tasty frozen treat. However, don’t expect it any time soon.

According to the report, the updates won’t begin until Q2 2012, potentially six months after Samsung’s Galaxy Nexus goes on sale. Samsung confirmed to us last night at the kick-off of the Galaxy Note European Tour that the oversized smartphone would get Android 4.0, as reported in our Galaxy Note vs Galaxy Nexus hands-on, but said that, since the company had been working closely with Google on ICS, they expected to beat competitors to the market with upgrades for existing devices.

(Source :http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-android-4-0-ics-updates-in-2012-reportedly-detailed-28191699/)
[Galaxy S II General] Berenor:
I hope, we won't have to wait that long...
[Galaxy S II General] deezle:
Waiting 6m+ would be a joke in my opinion - the GS2 is the leading current Android phone in performance and sales, for it to take so long to get 4.0 makes the whole platform seem a bit weak seeing as by then we'll presumably be in the midst of hype building for iphone 5 which would a) have new features ics doesn't have and b) copy anything worthwhile from ics.

I don't believe extended Nexus exclusivity does either Google or Samsung any favours at all...
[Galaxy S II General] dacook2:
i don't like to wait.
[Galaxy S II General] indup:
i read somewhere that it wont get 4.0 until after the galaxy s3 is released.
[Galaxy S II General] leninmon:
me too think so. Galaxy S got gingerbread update only after S2 released. So.... I doubt it might be the bad wait more news coming soon... :(

But anyway v will get it wont v.

Or if v need it faster CM will always be there to help us ;)
[Galaxy S II General] pisculescu:
I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
[Galaxy S II General] Toss3:
Just about everything. It doesn't bring many new features, but it optimizes the old ones and makes the whole experience better.
[Galaxy S II General] santhoshar:
I'm eagerly waiting for ICS in my SGSII
[Galaxy S II General] drelite08:
You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
[Galaxy S II General] blueseeker:
For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
[Galaxy S II General] Lost Monk:
Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous! :(

Me too! That feature is real dealbreaker imo.
[Galaxy S II General] TheSniperFan:
^This

Besides that, why should I wait for a rom that destroys the beauty of ICS with TouchWiz? I want the pure ICS-experience.
[Galaxy S II General] Shujitzu:
I dont know why people always want to update to a newer version of android. Will my phone produce ice cream when i get an update. Im happy with what my phone can do at the moment i dont know whats the big deal. after this i think ill go for windows phone which looks more stableand quick.
[Galaxy S II General] mattyboyo:
Won't Samsung have had ics to develop the galaxy nexus? If so wouldn't they have been developing the upgrades for their phones, negotiated as part of the deal to make the nexus phone?
[Galaxy S II General] razor 116:
I think galaxy S2 will be the first to receive the update before any other device, firstly Samsung and Google worked extremely closely on some of the software aspects of ICS namely the Camera app and the launcher itself, also the Galaxy nexus share some hardware components with the Galaxy S2.

Also lets face it the Galaxy nexus is underwhelming specs-wise except the Screen of course (Even though it's Pentile).
[Galaxy S II General] Currykiev:
Don't forget that Samsung also want to sell a LOT of their nexus device and making it the only device in their range to have ics makes complete business sense. They've sold lots of sgs2 already, time for the nexus.

I know it may be a little frustrating for us, but as someone has already said, we'll get it much earlier via a leaked ROM.
[Galaxy S II General] namelok:
Q2 2012? F**k me...
[Galaxy S II General] Ospreylian:
What are people doing with their phones to make them slow and desperately need ICS? Am I missing a free hookers and drugs app?
[Galaxy S II General] razor 116:
I agree we will get within weeks of the launch whether it be from Samsung or an AOSP ROM doesn't bother me because the one main gripe I have with AOSP ROM's is the lack of hardware acceleration and the absolutely terrible camera app, Samsung's Touchwiz is hardware accelerated which is why it is so smooth.

It does make perfect business sense to delay ICS for the GS2 but people don't buy the "Google Phone" because of its specifications they buy it because its the "Google Phone" the one advantage of doing this is the quick updates, other than that there are far better devices, the Galaxy Nexus isn't even released yet and its already outclassed by devices such as ours that have been out for over 6 months.

ICS and the screen are the only saving graces of the Galaxy Nexus. needless to say it will still sell extremely well because as I mentioned its the "Google Phone".
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Expected it :D

Great news anyway :)
[Galaxy S II General] aalna:
ics better not delay

I understand completely why they would delay ICS on SGSII for nexus...but man they better not be stupid and make us wait a long time.

the fact of the matter is we all spent our hard earned money on these phones and have enjoyed it's quality. but for them not to service their product in a timely matter would simply anger most. I dont give two crappers for nexus, it should not impede the quality of the overall android/samsung experience.

If they do inflate sales at my expense, then they will lose brand loyalty and faith in their products. it happened to other companies, and their phone sales sucked after that (don't forget about sony reversing it's updated phone list...moto cleaning up the blur bloat). anyways, i didn't buy an htc phone because they invested too much into their sense firmware, and I predict there's going to be huge conflicts with ICS.

oh well. thank god i know how to update without kies. :( that's my rant for the night...keep the pressure on the companies so they fight for our loyalty through our needs...
[Galaxy S II General] krazykat:
Samsung didn't care about brand loyalty when they first started. And besides, it's all about meeting the month end. Sometimes - it is just about disappointing loyal customers to keep the company afloat. Besides, their q3 wasn't that good of an earning despite being the lead smartphone seller.

But with that said - I agree with you nonetheless. I can't wait for ICS like the other guy. I'm pretty sure the beta will arrive soon. =)
[Galaxy S II General] Coentje44:
Guys, keep an eye on the iCS SDK port thread in the original development section ;p
[Galaxy S II General] sohanlon07:
I'd rather they concentrated on sorting.tthe phones issues. I'm sick of this.thing switching itself off all the time.
[Galaxy S II General] chrisjcks:
Mine has never done that & ive tried manu roms (both official/leaked/custom), either youve been messing with something or your phone is f'ed.
[Galaxy S II General] sohanlon07:
I've not messed with it. It is rooted.though and had a custom rom. The phone is far too buggy.
[Galaxy S II General] chrisjcks:
Its your setup thats buggy, not the phone.

Do a fresh OS install from kies, dont install any apps and you will not see any bugs.

Either you have an app thats causing you problems, or its a particular custom rom that your trying that isnt stable.
[Galaxy S II General] Lost Monk:
Q2 or Q1, if samsung fails to release ICS before its competitors then its gonna affect its sales.

Ordinary folks which constitute significant numbers do not understand stability/instability issues with higher upgrades. They want THE LATEST!

Old gingerbed out of the box in Q2 2012 wont catch customers.
[Galaxy S II General] sohanlon07:
Thanks for the advice, but firstly it has been doing this from day 1 before I had done any rooting. Secondly it has been wiped, had a stock rom installed via kids, left with minimal apps for a week or so and still no joy. The phone is buggy, everyone knows it, there are plenty of other posts about it, an article or two out there and plenty of people, including my roommate who is still on a stock rom having the same issues. It annoys me that people are so blinded that they won't accept there are flaws in something they have bought.
[Galaxy S II General] razor 116:
Unfortunately you got a faulty unit simply send it in for repair, I have had my device for 2 months with absolutely no issues.
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
What is the definition of buggy to you mister?

Well, I said it before if you are coming from an iPhone then you could say it's a little bit slower as GB isn't HW accelerated, but what is buggy?
[Galaxy S II General] deezle:
Have you ever considered that other people simply aren't having the problems you are? Considering the numerous discussions on battery life issues, I'm sure it would be plastered all over this site if most users were having regular crashes..

I for one have had just 1 random reboot in 5 months use, happy to admit that, not blinded by anything.

Perhaps your carriers branding / bloatware is buggy?
[Galaxy S II General] xEraseRx:
Mine crashed multiple times recently. But it does it in my case because of the facebook gochat app. At least up to now it only powered down, when this app was running.

As for the release date, I do not expect anything this year from samsung.
[Galaxy S II General] jonny68:
As some have mentioned already i can almost guarantee there will be an ICS leak before the year is out for the SGSII the official version might just be 6 months but who cares the leaked version is gonna be exactly the same.
[Galaxy S II General] julandroid:
Releasing ICS for the Galaxy S2 in the Q2 2012 will certainly means that Samsung completely lose me as a loyal customer. I will feel myself insulted, ripped off and robbed.
[Galaxy S II General] htcplussony:
Could be worst. Like LG.
[Galaxy S II General] 08r3308:
Yeah LG prwtty much said get stuffed we cant be bothered updating our top of range phone . At least we have gingerbread, they still stuck on froyo. And dont ler me go about htc and their updates. Look what stuffup they did with desire.
[Galaxy S II General] Smartie36:
been using my s2 for months and never had it switch itself off, well apart from when I let the battery fully discharge that is.

like others have already said to you, the s2 is not a 'buggy' phone as you put it, if yous keeps switching itself off as much as you make out then it's more than likely faulty, especially as you say it's been doing that since you've had it!
[Galaxy S II General] bleachedgin:
They already gave hints that S2 will get it by January 2012, so we should get the flashable way earlier I guess...And google will apparently release the code for ICS at the same time nexus goes out, which means, a few weeks after or more, we can expect ICS on our S2 *If you like flashing* which I do =) If you're anal about having the *OFFICIAL* then wait til january I guess.. I, myself will flash the first one to come out lol then just flash the *OFFICIAL* later when it does come out in January.. =)

I can't remember the site, but I read that it came from a reliable source via twitter...A guy in deep with the techy side..

I already have my S2 themed with ICS stuff lol...And for people who doesn't care about updates.......Who doesn't want they're phone to run faster, smoother, and get more battery life out of it lol...FOR FREEEEEE.. it's like getting a newer phone everytime lol
[Galaxy S II General] ultramag69:
Which is why my SGS2 keeps getting flashed with new OS... I like getting new things.... ;D
[Galaxy S II General] zachlevi:
Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Galaxy S II General] ephraim:
We can only have one OS and that is Android.. Unless someone ports windows OS (forgot the name :) ) or iOS.. :)

By OS you mean ROMs or Firmwares, right? :)
[Galaxy S II General] jj03:
i hope thats an attempt at sarcasm...

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[Galaxy S II General] sids911:
I can understand him. Q2 2012 is just too late for ICS update to be coming to our devices.
[Galaxy S II General] LBTaylor1984:
agreed, bearing in mind the similar hardware shared with the Galaxy Nexus, I would of hoped for January February. I'm always disappointed by manufacturers forgetting about there flagship phones only months after there release, and by most reviewers comments the SGS2 is still better than the Nexus anyways.
[Galaxy S II General] djunited:
i am considering getting the nexus if it will be a 5 months wait till samsung releases ics. here is a recent review of the galaxy nexus compared a bit to the sgs2:

http://androidheadlines.com/2011/11/featured-samsung-galaxy-nexus-review-round-up.html

also don't forget that rumors of sgs3 have surfaced and by the time we get ics i'd be wanting toupgrade to the sgs3.

offcourse i wouldn't be considering the galaxy nexus if team hacksung didn't have to wait for ics leak from samsung to fix gfx and sound drivers. what do you think of all this? get the nexus now and about 6 moths later get the sgs3?
[Galaxy S II General] MaGiXeN:
I hope it will be flash available on ICS for SGS2
[Galaxy S II General] Hollow.Droid:
Adobe is giving flash one last hurrah for ICS then resigning it to bug and security fixes.
[Galaxy S II General] leedavis:
I was all for the Nexus, but given all the delays, I think I'll wait for S3 in Q2 2012. I'm expecting outstanding specs.
[Galaxy S II General] knightnz:
Given that the original release of the original i9100 SGS2 was roughly 7 months ago, it's no longer a "new" phone.

It isn't in any companies best interest to keep supporting a product indefinitely, it's more profitable to sell a newer model.

I'm sure they'd much rather invest the majority of their resources in avenues that are going to be more profitable, like working on the Galaxy Nexus.

When you bought your SGS2, did you receive notice from Samsung that you'd get a prompt ICS upgrade soon after they'd released another phone that had it? 3-4 months might seem excessive, but they're going to want to test such a major upgrade pretty extensively, they wouldn't want an antenna-gate scenario.
[Galaxy S II General] SciReal:
I owned the Fascinate (SG1). Samsung and Verizon both said it would get GB in months. Long story short...it took almost a year! Samsung is not known for timely updates. I wouldn't expect much from them officially. You dont have to believe me though. Check some of the other Samsung forums.

Sent from my DROID X2
[Galaxy S II General] knightnz:
Samsung aren't the only offender here. HTC have proven themselves to be just as bad (Nexus One gingerbread delay & Desire "yes we will, no we won't" gingerbread debacle).

I haven't been following the reliability on ongoing upgrades from Microsoft, LG, Nokia etc, but I doubt they're much better.
[Galaxy S II General] mateash2002:
OHHH this discussion again...

---------- Post added at 06:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:21 AM ----------

love the signature. there's also "CRAKALAKIN" at no. 4
[Galaxy S II General] tjtj4444:
Releasing ice cream too early will only upset most of the customers because of too many incompatible apps and not enough time to fix bugs in both Android 4.0.x itself and in Samsungs integration of it.

Galaxy S2 is a mature phone, it never crashes for me for example, and almost all apps work fine with it, an average customer would not like to have an upgrade that suddenly changes this.

Of course a lot of enthusiast here at XDA (like me) would like an early release, but if I was product planner at Samsung I would not even want a release before february or so in order to give a decent customer experience.

But we could still get leaked test firmware before christmas though :)
[Galaxy S II General] Frostfree:
Spot on, I wouldn't expect ICS till around Jan/feb but anything later would be disappointing.

Samsung have actually released prompt updates to the SGS and now he S2 thus far in Europe, and generally ahead of the competition.
[Galaxy S II General] tameracingdriver:
Exactly. What exactly will ICS make your phone do that it does not do right now?

I'm happy to wait, I'm using check rom is Mega fast and stable and verts ICS theme and it pretty much looks just as good as from what I've seen from ICS anyway!
[Galaxy S II General] ithehappy:
Only for your type of kids Samsung is becoming worse and worse and ignorant.

How nonsense and stupid of a comment !
[Galaxy S II General] jebiga:
I'm happy to wait :)
[Galaxy S II General] zkyevolved:
I agree. I've had this phone for more than 2 months now, much more, and it's one of the greatest phones I've ever had! Great camera, battery life, screen, thinness. I can't find anything to complain about :s No crashes whatsoever... Maybe he really did get a buggy phone! Not all are made perfectly. Maybe someone was half asleep during the fabrication.
[Galaxy S II General] LBTaylor1984:
I'm happy that were getting it, and honestly if it comes out in the New years thats cool, I mean there no Flash support at the moment, and while I know it's the be all end all, it makes browsing no where as good. Adobe said that Flash support would come in the new year, so if Samsung time ICS updates with Adobe Flash, then where on for success.
[Galaxy S II General] alias_neo:
Not sure about it being the be al land end all, after all, Adobe is killing off support for Flash Mobile after the next version.

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/279619,adobe-to-drop-flash-for-mobile.aspx
[Galaxy S II General] youngpic48:
The SGS2 is a great phone...I've never had any problems with it. It feels just as smooth as an iPhone. I have around 10 android phones with multiple problems. My OB P970 lags, my Atrix 4G lags, SGS1 i9000 lags, Galaxy Spica on CM lags, My Desire S and Nexus 1 reboots for no reason...etc.

As far as the SGS2...not a glitch. It just works and I don't even use a Task Killer. All my other androids can't function a day without killing tasks. My battery lasts 2 days with moderate use. I've also had an iPhone 3g and 4. Sold them after only a few days of using them. I only wish the screen would rotate like my Atrix (not choppy) and would have better animated transitions.
[Galaxy S II General] ZRong223:
Hmm... Will Galaxy R get ICS update following the update on Galaxy SII?

I don't think it's possible, but I always dream of it... :(
[Galaxy S II General] cliff03:
WOW hope that ICS will come soon to SG2, can't wait but now I'm trying to get going with 2.3.5 or 2.3.7 :eek:
[Galaxy S II General] Mcjim113:
What ever happened with the initiative that Google were proposing about teaming up with the big phone manufactures to get prompt updates released for newer phone models and to carry that on for 18 months. I remember reading something about it while looking into hardware acceleration for Android UI.

These are issues Google need to address if they ever want to compete with Apple effectively for the future!
[Galaxy S II General] jonny68:
True to an extent, however the SGSII has been the biggest selling product Samsung have ever released, and sales are still going very well so they will most definitely continue to support this phone for a long time yet.;)
[Galaxy S II General] irajh:
nice to hear this hope we get it sooner than later
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nitsuj79:
Has this ever happened to you? It was an accident the first time it happened but, I seem to be able to stack widgets. I start by long pressing on an empty spot on any page, just like you would normally do. Then (have no idea how it happened the first time) before the widget list loads if I quickly flip to the next page where that spot on the screen is already filled, pick my widget, when it loads up, it comes on top of the widget already there. Sometimes it will load behind the one that is there, as was the case the first time it happened, but the next time I rebooted it showed up on top of my calendar. If I move it off of the calendar I can't put it back on, it has to be deleted and stacked in the same manor.

I have to say I really like the feature/bug/whatever. It's a space saver, both widgets are still fully functional and I like the option of being able to save some screen space like in this instance. I can still see my calendar just fine to be honest I don't have a problem with it at all, hope it doesn't go away! I am not really a fan of spreading everything out over 6 or 7 or 12 pages *cough*iphone*cough* and that helps me be able to keep a much better (for me) 3 page set up.

I was mostly curious if anyone else knew about this, and/or maybe if your like me and maybe you'd like to save some real estate it could just be a handy tip!
[Xperia Play General] sonicfreak360:
I found a solution to the problem where pressing the back button once triggers it multiple times occasionally!

it's more of a work around. What I will show you how to do is re-mapping the search key to go back. If you find use out of your search key (I don't) then this is not for you. But now phones some phones are dropping the search key anyways!

First, get a file explorer with root access.

Next, navigate to /system/usr/keylayout and open up keypad-pmic-zeus.kl with a text editor.

Change where it says SEARCH to BACK (I don't know if it is case sensitive)

Reboot!

Now pressing search with go back!
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
It's not a harware bug it's a software bug. It was also fixed in the 2.3.4 update!
[Xperia Play General] dannejanne:
Probably. Because I have never encountered the issue so far and I'm on 2.3.4
[Xperia Play General] sonicfreak360:
Fixed. I'm on cyanogenmod and it still has the glitch however :-(
[Xperia Play General] AndroHero:
ask FXP to look at what sony changed in the new update, maybe he can find a solution to it with cyanogen :)
[Xperia Play General] dsswoosh:
I recently updated officially via PC companion to 2.3.4 and can confirm that the back button pressing multiple times seems to have been fixed.

Although now I am back to having the problem where my screen will activate other parts of the screen and generally spaz out on me.

edit - @Andro

I have no proof, just a suspision, but i have the feeling that the back button fault is actually a hardware defect that they have patched up via a software fix.
[Xperia Play General] the__one:
Same here, update 2.3.4 finally fix this problem!!
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] manu407:
I wish to buy a smartphone with qwerty keyboard incl numeric row. I am using Nokia Communicator e90. Tried HTC HD2 which has no keyboard. Came back to e90.

My requirements are qwerty keyboard with numeric row, landscape, good network signal reception, good sound quality including loudspeaker, good sms functionality, good PIM incl good Contacts ( I have 5000 contacts)

What are the Actual User experiences on above points? Are there any detailed reviews?

Is call recording possible? How is the keyboard quality? sound quality?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] GuestK0045:
Recording calls? Never tried that but in nyc i do get good reception , and the keyboard is the best one on a android phone, the battery life is ok , and sound quality is loud mind you (in my case i must have the voice call on max since during a call you can't change the volume setting in call) i am not sure if anyone esle has this problem)

You can use the engagdnet and cent reviews on this phones
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] izzy001:
actually i am selling a sk4g... pm me for details if interested