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[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
As I said 16 Ohm not 56...

And it is not because you have 500 dollar earbuds that

sound good on the iphone that they SHOULD sound equal

or better on another amp....

I use senheiser cx680i ones, but we all have different taste.

Fact is that the NOTE can sound very good... And yes I do have a

Galaxy tab with supercurio's voodoo driver, and I do own a classic ipod

and an 4th gen Ipod Touch, so i do have some gear to compare it with
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] hagba:
Just go and get it,the WIFI on this thing is better than my laptop,I never thought I will ever end up with an Android device,but this is good realy good and I like it a lot,the only downside is the relative quietness of the sound system in general,specially notifications.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] betoNL:
550 Dollars for a headset ?:eek:?:eek:

I feel so cheap right now :rolleyes::

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1190205
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
bij de amerikanen is alles altijd groter beter en duurder lol
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] cesarleeds:
I agree, that quietness is the issue, hopefully somebody can fix it.

Enviado desde mi Note
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] karmarocket:
Thanks for the feedback everyone.

I'm not surprised the iphone has better audio quality in general. It was born out of the ipod. Kind of had a head start in that area.

I wish Samsung would concentrate on this area more. Seems like a lot of people see this as an issue. Especially if Samsung wants to win over iphone users to Android.

I'm not an audiophile. But lately I have been noticing a difference with my UE 700's with higher bit rate mp3's. I'd rather not carry 2 devices (one being solely for music), but we'll see how audio sounds. I can deal with a slight degrade, but if I can hear a major difference I'll try an amp or carry an ipod.

The Note has too many other wow factors that I am interested in that would make audio a deal breaker. Though I was hoping that it would be as good as the iphone.

guess we have to see what other developers like Supercurio can do with the Note.

I would test out the Note and see for myself, but there are no demo units I can find here in the US. You guys are lucky in Europe and Asia :)

Thanks for taking the time to post your opinions. Appreciate it.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] betoNL:
You don't even have to mention that abusevely priced i-Phone anymore;

Samsung already did a good job on audio with the first Galaxy s which was hundreds of euros cheaper and way better than the i-Phone.

The disappointment is, that you would think Samsung would keep up the good work on the audio department, when the sgs II showed up , but it didnt.

Everything on the sgs II is better than the sgs I except....the sound...

But surprisingly the GNOte sounds better (music from headset) than the sgs II, even on the same dac..

And when I get my Note and after all tweaking, I still wont be satisfied with the sound, I can always go back to Sgs as my primary music player.

And the Note for all the rest....
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] pascalbriand:
Dear,

MP3 Loseless audio format IS NOT MUSIC !!!!

Best regards

Pascal
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] cesarleeds:
Not an audiophile either, i´m running Senheixer CX300II for a couple of years now, they are worth 35 euros these days, not that much, but they still do the job for me, not as good as i expected with Note though.

These could be the perfect smartphone if sound would deliver, maybe with some tweaks we can manage to go ahead, i mean, the phone is spectacular, but at the end of the day is a phone, so u want it to sound loud and clear, it seems the loudness would get a fix, that would be gud enough for me.

The only thing i can tell you, once u have a demo in your hands, or a real Note, u´ll forget about any other phone.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
Originally Posted by kersh View Post

Fast answer

yamaha dac is pure crap if you listen music in headphones over 10€

GS2 + note = yamaha dac, so if you want to listen music with a little quality you need a dedicated mp3, the phone will not be suitable for that.

The datasheet of the yamaha chip is not public, so where did you get your information mr wise guy ?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] pascalbriand:
From http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_n7000-review-676p8.php

Excellent audio output

Unsurprisingly, the Samsung Galaxy Note passed our audio quality test with flying colors. It couldn't beat the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, but it did better than every other Samsung device we have tested.

As you can see there's nothing to frown at when the Galaxy Note is connected to an active external amplifier. We were somewhat surprised by the low volume levels, but the output couldn't be any cleaner.

We were also pleased to find out that there is only slight deterioration when headphones are attached. The stereo crosstalk reading took the biggest hit, but the intermodulation distortion and frequency response stayed very good earing an excellent mark overall.

Check out the table and see for yourself.

Test Frequency response Noise level Dynamic range THD IMD + Noise Stereo crosstalk

Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 +0.04, -0.08 -90.4 88.9 0.0044 0.066 -87.4

Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 (headphones attached) +0.12, -0.06 -89.7 88.4 0.0084 0.112 -51.6

Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II +0.04, -0.09 -91.4 91.9 0.0042 0.066 -89.7

Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II (headphones attached) +1.05, -0.22 -90.0 90.2 0.013 0.647 -49.4

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 +0.03, -0.04 -89.9 89.9 0.014 0.018 -90.8

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (headphones attached) +0.05, -0.03 -89.6 89.6 0.012 0.063 -64.4

Samsung P1000 Galaxy Tab +0.02, -0.17 -90.7 90.0 0.100 0.065 -87.0

Samsung P1000 Galaxy Tab (headphones attached) +0.72, -0.14 -90.4 89.9 0.018 0.360 -53.4

HTC Titan +0.06, -0.34 -86.9 87.8 0.015 0.244 -75.5

HTC Titan (headphones attached) +0.34, -0.18 -76.8 77.1 0.057 0.581 -56.4

HTC Sensation (headphones attached) +0.71, -0.15 -89.1 90.1 0.019 0.522 -70.6

HTC Sensation +0.05, -0.34 -90.2 90.2 0.012 0.021 -91.1
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
It seems that GSM Arena does not match levels so loaded tests are useless for comparisons since each device it's measured with a different output volume.

And they do not measure the output impedance which is a key factor when using balanced armature headphones.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
New assessment

This assessment of the Galaxy Note by the german site focus.de is really enlightening since they test the headphone out with a multidriver balanced armature heaphone (Instead of the common dynamic ones often used). And balanced armature headphones are less forgiving with the amp weaknesses (Specially output impedance) than dynamic ones (Which are not demanding quality wise but volume wise).

Here the excerpt on the original german (use your translator of choice)

An unserem Referenz-Headset, einem Ultimate Ears 11 Pro, spielt das Note kräftig auf. Die Höhen sind wunderbar brillant und spritzig, die Bässe druckvoll und voluminös. Damit übertrifft das Samsung locker die Grenzreferenz Nokia N81 und somit das Gros der Smartphones. Im Vergleich zur Spitzenreferenz iPhone 4S können die Höhen des Note mithalten. Diese sind ebenso präsent und filigran wie beim Apfel-Handy, die Mitten separieren sich gleich sauber. Bei den Bässen lässt sich mit viel Geduld der winzige Hauch eines Unterschieds ausmachen. Da scheint der Frequenzgang des Note um eine Idee früher einzubrechen, das mögen eine Handvoll Hertz sein, mehr wohl kaum. Das hört man erstens nur im direkten Vergleich heraus und auch dann nur bei wenigen Titeln und mit einem erstklassigen Headset. In der Bestandsaufnahme ergibt dies nur Bruchteile eines Punktes weniger als beim iPhone 4S, in der gerundeten Klangwertung kassiert das Note letztlich ebenso viele Punkte wie das 4S und natürlich ein solides „Sehr gut“.

They rate sound as very good. Their rate for Galaxy S II (tested the same way is) is roughly adequate.

In my view this attest that the impedance of the chinese Note was kept in Europe (or to be more accurate in the handset tested by focus.de)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] cesarleeds:
They did that test over a european Note or a chinese one?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
They just confirm my earlier sayings, ppl telling you the Note sounds bad, should go and see a doctor, either for their ears, or for their brains... or maybe even both
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] reinbeau:
Sorry, but you need to supply the translation. XDA is an English speaking community, you can post in your language, but you must provide the translation, per Rule #4. Please edit your post and include the translation.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] betoNL:
Just use Google Chrome browser...it translates everything automatically in less than 2 secs.....

---------- Post added at 07:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:15 PM ----------

Here (above) is his quote, roughly translated

Check de German site here: http://www.focus.de/digital/handy/h...timedia-besser-als-das-iphone_aid_684809.html

And remember...Google Chrome does a better job than Google translate
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] spkrs01:
I think the Note sounds rather good. Definitely as good as the iphone 4S, different presentation though. The 4S is a cleaner sounding device but very dry in presentation. Actually I think the 4 sounded better.

Back to the Note. Firstly, you need a 3rd party music app that has an equalizer to flatten the booasted bass and treble thats inherent in all android devices. I use cloudskipper. If you persist with the stock player then use the Equalizer app to flatten the curve. Once done the improvement is significant.

The Note is a very musical sounding device with good dynamics, imaging and very smooth presentation. The bass could be tighter but the attack and weight is good. The highs are somewhat rolled off but thats not all bad considering how modern cds are manufactured.

Is the Yamaha dac really that bad.........I dont think so. However, it was a missed opportunity on Samsungs part of not making the Note a fantastic sounding device especially with the battery it has. On a final note, FLAC is the way to go on android devices that supports the medium.

I am using Westone 4 and also the Shure se535 Special Edition(red) with a Baldur mk2 cable.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
Samsung/Yamaha could just give out the datasheet and sample codes.

The driver code exists, i saw it on some website.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...axy&cd=3&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr&client=firefox-a

is one of 4 available
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
Sorry for not providing the translation. I was not aware of that rule and i chose they each guy use their favorite transaltor. Anyway here it goes:

At our reference headset, Ultimate Ears 11 Pro, plays the note on strong. The highs are crisp and wonderfully brilliant, the bass and full-bodied. So the Samsung surpasses the limit reference Nokia N81 loose and thus the majority of smartphones. In comparison to the reference peak heights of the iPhone 4S can keep up the note. These are also present and filigree like the apple phone, separate the middle is just as clean. When the bass can be made out with much patience the tiny hint of a difference. Since the frequency response of the note seems to have an idea to break earlier this may be a handful of Hertz, more unlikely. You hear it first published only in direct comparison and even then only a few titles, and with an excellent headset. In the inventory, this gives only a fraction of a point less than the iPhone 4S, rounded sound in the standings ultimately conceded the score as many points as the 4S and of course a solid "Very good".
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
Don't you hear a background hiss whenever the music stops. It lasts for a couple of seconds. Sometimes it appears just before the music starts.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] inkanyamba:
Unfortunately, I do.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
Thus it seems that it was not just the Note i tried.

I can accept some loss in sound qualtity versus the iPhone but i won't trade my iPhone for a device that puts in the headphone out such an underlying noise.

Thanks for the feedback. It must be quite hard designing smartphones with clean headphone outputs as it seems that only Apple gets away with them.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
no background noise here
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
Which music headphones do you use ?

Thanks for the feedback
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] ericshmerick:
It's a phone. If you need lossless audiophile quality, get a Cowon media player and blast your eardrums out.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
My iPhone is a phone as well. And its background is pitch black with no background noise of any kind. Guess it's properly shielded and i wish more manufacturers would shield properly the headphone amp.

We are talking 700 Euros devices here.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
Sennheiser/adidas sports cx680i cost about $75
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
I wanted to know to check impedance and sensivity (Not the price ;)

Merci

EDIT: It seems that they are kind of sensitive iems. You should hear the phone shutting down the headphone amp when pausing music for a few seconds. Weird.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
Nope absolutely quiet
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] betoNL:
My Galaxy S GT i9000 (SGS1) is a phone too. it's modded, it got voodoo sound improvements and other things; I get a better sound from it than my Cowon I-audio which I am going to sell.. It is getting a better sound than my wife's Creative Zen X-Fi as well.

That's the advantage of having a Android device with an open-sourced audio codec and many talented developers working on it. Getting ever better results when using nice software such as player pro (with added equalizer) and Rockbox player, both even better than PowerAmp app.

Just test-compared it against the iPhone4s and some iPod (of the neighbor)...beats them too :)

That's why I will be keeping my sgs, even after I buy the GNote in January.

And I am sure I will get great results also on the GNote just by configuring those psycho-acoustics stuff with progs like PlayerPro and RockBox.

Till someone develops something special for the GNote....

Elfary my friend, sooner or later you gonna have to break free from that iOS jail and all those abusive prices...:eek:

If not for the GNote , maybe for the GNexus or even for the sgs1 which is getting cheaper and cheaper...

Even the latest GNexus will be always cheaper then a "less" new iPhone.

And an Android device even un-rooted out-of-the-box, will always have more possibilities than a "Jailbreaked" iPhone, for those who dare jailbreak it..

Also, I read in many threads that some headsets that work well on the iPhone, don't work that good in other devices.

That could explain why I didn't hear any hiss or background noise on all show-models I tested ( Media-Markt and Saturn ) armed with mt AKG 430 headphones and the sgs stock in-ears.

Just a thought :cool:

P.s.- belsimpel.nl is a webshop with a pickup adress here at my home town, the latest Android (GNexus) is costing 560 Euros...HTC devices are even cheaper....

Not surprised if the iPhone 5 is going to cost indeed 700 euros or more...

Even the iPhone 4 is still abusively priced...

Let me try the GNote in January from belsimpel.nl...

If there is indeed no hiss/background noise and a good screen... I would recommend you to order from them....Right now it costs around 530 euros but prices are dropping....;)
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
I agree iOS is a jail but they do pump great sounding music in that jail. So if you deeply love music and sound you might be quite happy imprisoned ;)

Somehow Supercurio manages to discourage me from purchasing the Note. If it wasn't for his disdainful twitter comments about the Note (sound, display and today battery) i'm sure i would already have it around.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
The difference between you and Supercurio is that he bought a Note and you didn't.

He bought it for complete other reasons then you would buy it.

He bought it to see if he can create some super-app to improve it so you will buy this

app from him... Since he cannot ofcourse he will advise you to buy something more

lucrative for him ;) As said before, do your own testing and don't take Supercurio's words for the one and only truth. Maybe you will be dissappointed, or maybe you will be uttermost pleasantly surprised, but at least you will know for sure.

His last comments on the battery drain -> yes it shows a steep dying curve....after 36 hours......

My phone never stays 36 hours without charging.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] Techvir:
Cant agree more....

Supercurio' s talk is purely technical...

Screen - I am 100% happy. To my eyes I dont see what he says most of the time.

Sound - yes it has yamaha codec and development is limited but I am very happy with the music

Battery - Mine lasts less than 24hrs but i use it a lot not just to do a few min of testing.

Also see my post here... Why forget all the good things which are more important

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1389693

However Must add that

- I am big fan of supercurio and respect his work

- I am no audiophile nor do I have the eyes of an artist
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
Oh I also bought the voodoo plus for my galaxytab.

And i also respect Supercurio's technical skills.

Just wanted to point out, as you agree, that it's better

to judge by yourself.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
Actually i had a few hours a Note and when i tried it with my music files i was able to enjoy the music (even if noticing that it's not as glorius sounding as an iPhone) and that's what it's important: just getting lost in the music.

The huge setback came when i was finishing the trial and i hit the pause button and then i noticed a background hiss that lasted a few seconds. I repeated the test and again heard bursts of static when music started/stopped/paused like the sound of the amp firing up and shutting down (I heard the same kind of hiss this summer when trying and HD7).

What has put me off till this moment is that experience paired with the sound clip that Supercurio posted on anandtech (as a part of his review of the Galaxy SII).In that very clip you can hear not only background noise but gsm interference as well and since i only could try the Note in airplane mode the mere fear of hearing something as what you can hear on that clip scares me to death.

Here's the link for the clip Supercurio recorded off the SII headphone out:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/13

If you can try that sound clip and tell me if you have heard something remotely similar on your Notes i'd appreciate it.

Thanks
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
Never heard anything like this on the note.

This is defenately an induced interference into the sound system.

But at what point ?

If I listen to my ipod touch 4th gen in the car, connected to my car stereo

and my phone is lying next to it, the same noise appears and much worse.

When I remove the phone it's gone.

I don't know Supercurios testlab, but this interference could be picked up

by his test leads as well as coming from the phone itself.

What I do believe is, since the SGII sold more then a million times,

if THIS was an issue on every unit it would have been taken out of

production...

Now we cannot blame the phone for not being as good

in sound as the GS or the GT, it has other nice features that have made it

a big hit.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] betoNL:
I will try to run more tests on those show-models before my trip coming soon.

Other theories about the Note sounding better than the sgs2 (and it does!):
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
...So you have never heard from your Note the blatant noises heard in that very sound clip ?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] betoNL:
Best tip

Your point is clear !

For those who can, just take a couple of headsets, go to a big store with a big showroom and play with the phones...

That's how I bought my first android , the sgs1, which was around that time, almost twice cheaper than iPhone, with a bigger screen, a better sound (i just noticed this week) and a way better OS....

I read so much crap about the sgs1 sound in the beginning here on XDA, that I decided to check it out myself and with many headsets....

I got used to replace my standalone mp3 players with good music phones....first with a modded sony-ericsson K750 with a hacked system and a modded sound driver....and then with a pure out-of-the-box Nokia 5800XM that around that time was almost 3 times (!) cheaper that the iPhone and with a great sound !

What new users have to learn is, that they can better trust their own eyes and ears than other ppl reports...

Sometimes there are other interests involved and furthermore, on forums like this, there will be always tons of trolling around :D:D
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] elfary:
I discovered an interesting piece of gear that might help me out whenever my audiophile side might creep in...

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-AUM3SBEBXAR-micro-3-5mm-Adapter/dp/B003WZV02M

By hooking the Note to my ibasso T3 (iem high resolution amp) thru this tiny thing i could get a ruler flat signal off the Note plus better separation (No way to get rid of IMD but the improvemente would be great).
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
Hmm nice find,

or this version

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Micro-3-5MM-Headset-Adapter/dp/B005HJAW4S/ref=pd_cp_e_3

And to answer to Elfary, no i have no weird sounds in the headphone out of the note. not at max volume, neither on minimum.

I would tell you if i did.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] betoNL:
Wait a minute...I can get sound from usb as well? What about image (TV Out) ?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] friedje:
Ofcourse you get video out from usb, you need a mhl to hdmi cable,

but it needs the power charger plugged at the same time

or maybe an Y-usb cable will provide enough power ?

Never tried that. But it works very good on my HD plasma

Something like this ; http://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Adapt...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324501225&sr=1-1
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] betoNL:
HDMI is better but I still have the TV out adapter from my lost Nokia5800 and I just plug the TV Out cable's 3.5mm pin into the phone's headphone socket, and then plug the cable's colour-coded plugs into your television's composite sockets

Works great like that

But that's when connected directly to the headset socket....what I was wondering if it would work like when connected to that usb adapter....just curious

Anyway the USB to HDMI connection will probably give a nuch better image...maybe...

Not in a hurry to purchase and store another cable....got tons of them
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] VTEChump:
Anyway to charge phone while using this??
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General] matius44:
Wait, does that work with the Note?? I have that cable from my last Nokia N96 but I didnt get my Note yet..

Sent from my 7" slab with a tab
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