yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gqstatus0685:
Hey Nifnard,

How would I know his actual handle?

I know how to search in G+ and when I searched for Koush a log of profiles came up. I bet you were giggling like a little school girl when you were posting.

People on this website are full of themselves. I miss the old XDA.

Sent from SGSII.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graffixnyc:
Dude, it was in light fun.. you really need to lighten up a little bit there. and if you click the second link it googles his name and "google plus" which the first link that comes up, is his profile.. http://tinyurl.com/6xkhxaa
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
holy **** that was hilarious. i never did get how people using android phones dont get how easy it is to google something. its a verb for god sake, just do it lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
Google is a verb. So true. All my friends and family members probably think I'm an asshole because I google everything on my "google phone" to prove everyone is wrong. Sadly I prove myself wrong too at rare occasions.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HondaCop:
With that being said, any idea when CM7 nightlies will be available for the E4GT?

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S II Epic Touch 4G WTF BBQ
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
duh, everyone knows the common sense answer

i hate devs that act like this though

how can asking for an eta make one disheartening? irritating i can get, if say 100 people asked you. but if you give a ROUGHT timeframe, that takes away from people asking

i mean it just kills me when devs notion that they are going to work on something thats HIGHLY anticipated,and expect everybody to just keep mum about it to the end: of course people will want some type of ETA

i appreciate all the devs that provide us roms n stuff for free, but hate so much the devs that think their ass dont stink

i mean seriously, how you make it PUBLICLY known you are given devices and intend to work on something,and expect no questions? If people asking for an ETA gets your pants in a bunch, why dont devs NOT announce they begin/working on something, instead of just dropping a completed or at least beta project first?

its like being in jail and the warden says im going to let you go free,but states dont ask him when he will free you

jive makes no sense to me

thats my .02 cents
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] T.C.P:
has anyone noticed that u can flash recovery from rom manager now?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chrisbass:
Saw our device listed but was hesitant to flash. Everything worked successfully through rom manager?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chunology:
The devs owe us nothing, they're providing us a product without expecting anything in return. We should just feel lucky that they're even developing for our device.

If a DEV says it's going to be released TUESDAY and there's problems and it's not released, people will be right back on the board pestering them again why the release isn't here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
most the devs ive seen dont actually do it for "nothing" per say

they do get donations, and they do add up

i mean theres a post on these boards here offering a kitty before work is even being done on it

now if a dev says tuesday,and nothing comes tuesday,of course i dont support people complaining about a missed release date,and dont think it'll be that huge

i mean you could tell that particular dev's whole attitude though when he said dont ask for an ETA, i just hate those types. Sure wish devs would be more user friendly, since they know a bunch of users will use it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nakedhitman:
Devs to follow?

In addition to Koush, what other devs related to CDMA/CyanogenMod/ICS should I follow? I'd love to stay up to date without pestering people for updates.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paranoid android85:
Steve klondik. Mr. Cyanogen himself
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HaiKaiDo:
I dont know why Koush is always so sour to samsung galaxy users (including original and current gen). As an original galaxy s captivate owner, I remember him basically telling us to "f*ck off" and that he could give a "sh*t less about samsung devices". He was even rude to the point of telling the fascinate users to "get their god JT to fix their problems" (he was the one guy who single handedly ported and fixed cm7 to the fascinate). I wish we had someone who was a bit more community oriented and nicer at the helm of the changes that need to be made for us to get CMx.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
+1,000

just be a lil more user friendly is all im saying
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
I'd rather honesty and what not.. He's a dev not a salesman. The people who complain and pester for eras are the same people who don't donate. I don't do anything I do for money, and as I'm sure Koush feels the same, donations are appreciated, unless but don't come close to actually being paid. Just be patient, Koush is obviously working on it, but he also has other projects, and i doubt et4g is a priority.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xak944:
Regarding bounty threads, ETAs, and wanting devs to be "nicer" about certain things: Who the hell do you think you are complaining about the open source development community that provides SO MUCH to us all?!?!

If you appreciate someone's work, donate. It doesn't have to be public, just do it. Or not. Keep it to yourself, because honestly, it doesn't do any good to publicise it.

Bounty threads are serious bad news in my opinion, are against XDA rules as I understand them, and I don't even think they work. Most hackers are motivated by other things besides the donations. And what about getting 50 or more "pledged donators" to agree that the product has been produced and actually donate? What if it's developed by a team of people, who gets the bounty? The nature of open source means collaborating and doing it for the community, not for yourself. What if one person happens to post the final product, but another person or people whom you've never even heard of did 90% of the work? I don't think a single thing that any one person has ever released on XDA they truly produced from start to finish 100% themselves; this is the nature of open source, things are built upon the knowledge and technology shared by others. And it is AWESOME!

Why don't devs give ETAs, even vague ones or approximations? Because of people like you. Because they would rather spend their time actually making something useful than posting useless posts to appease people. This is hardly anyone's day job, and people have lives. It will be ready when it's ready. You want it faster? Develop it yourself (more on that later).

Let devs be grumpy. In fact, I'm surprised more devs aren't grumpy. XDA surely makes me grumpy. Among the thousands upon thousands of posts asking the same already answered questions over, and over, and over, asking for ETAs, flaming when something doesn't work because THEY didn't follow the instructions, how could you expect devs not to be grumpy?

How about YOU actually contributing for a change? I'm not talking about donations (but they are great too), as many devs have said they don't do it for donations and are not motivated by them. Many devs have good jobs and they do this for fun or to have a better device themselves. Try this: Google everything. Try things yourself. LEARN. How do all these "magical" devs know everything they know? They tried, failed, tried, failed, tried, and failed MANY times before. And they learned, and they googled, and they learned some more, and now they have a wealth of knowledge and experience in their brain. So can you. You've already found XDA and I'm sure you know about Google. You already have the tools. Go!

This post sounds like a flame because it is. If it doesn't apply to you, congratulations, you are in the minority by a long shot. If it does apply, I'm sure you'll probably flame me back instead of actually learning and contributing yourself, nothing I can do about that.

And to all the contributors, be it hackers, developers, testers, or modders, thank you. And feel free to be grumpy, I understand. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chrisbass:
Thank you for your well thought out, articulate opinion. I started a thread called "motivation donation" and will now be stopping and/or deleting it. I agree with you wholeheartedly about learning from knowledge which is already accessible. My main goal was dev appreciation. When I donate it will be privately.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] poppygt:
I've always been of the opinion that you only have the right to ***** about developers when you're paying their salary and benefits. Until these guys are on my payroll....I'll keep my mouth shut and take what I get.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HondaCop:
tl;dr ;-)

- My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dtr145r:
OMG koush just retweeted what ''amhou'' said ''An ankle-GPS monitor for your car, without a warrant? wired.com/threatlevel/20…''

some threads are pointless....

this is one if them....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
again, simply giving some type of ETA, is simply not that a huge of a deal, that yall devfanboys are making it. Could be a simple slot in the OP topic stating the next best estimate of an ETA, rather simple seems to me

im not sure why a dev will be grumpy over repeated questions, its not like HE himself has to respond to all the questions. all the other users of the rom usually chime in and answer the questions or just provide help, the dev is no where near the SOLE helper even though he developed the rom

I mean you are developing something you are going to give out to the masses, using common sense, how can you assume everyone will get it on the first go,and no one will need help? again, you arent developing the rom just for your friend or brother, you're giving it to the MASSES. Common sense says you'll have complications because you're dealing with a lot of people. So if dealing with a lot of people causes grumpiness and agony, who do devs even get into that field?

so back to common sense again, yes what you describe will happen, but thousands of business and people who put out products already know this in super advance. If it was assumed none of this would happen, not one business/entity would have a support department now would they?

It seems that the consensus is, since we didnt hire the dev, or since he's not being paid directly to do the rom, he therefore has the right to walk all over us and do and say as he pleases,and on top of that we should kiss and bless the ground he works on

I'm not a devfanboy so i find a problem in that

All i'm saying is, since you KNOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW that you will be dealing with strangers and a large mass of people, just have a lil bit of common courtesy to them is all, thats it.

Some of the devs just use this as "computer rep", to be "that man" that found a solution to this, or brought such a great thing to that, part of their attitude, is simply EGO

Again, yall making a bigger deal of the issue that what really is at hand. All this because someone asks for an ETA of a release? REALLY ?

As for contributing, what do you mean? We obviously arent devs or we wouldnt be asking another dev for an ETA of what we want. I assume the vast majority of people arent devs either, and basically leechers if you want to be technical. Not sure what you mean by contributing when if we really knew it all we would make our own damn roms

The best i can do ,is after i install a rom or whatever, is to continue to come back to the thread,and help others that "post the same ridicolous questions" that you say,from simply using my experience to install or use the rom/mod.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
So if I said **** you, and you'll get it when you get it.. You wouldn't use my projects? Even if it was the best thing out?

I work on my own timeframe, and don't know an eta, especially when it's developing something for the first time, and or porting something not for that device.. That is not walking over people, and it's not giving a **** whether you are happy about it or not.

Most devs develop for the learning experience, and not for the masses, and we just share it, and because that's what open source is about. But you are more than welcome to start developing on your own..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] acrown:
Chris41, I have seen you trolling many threads. You have lost my respect and I assume you don't care.

I thank you for your work on your kernel, I'm using it right now. You won't be receiving anymore gratitude for this or any other projects you may contribute to. Even if it's ICS, I would rather wait for someone else with more ethics.

Don't spend any time on a response, I'm done!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
You sir are an ungrateful, whiny bastard and embody all that is wrong with the current crop of smartphone users who have an overdeveloped sense of entitlement. Go get an iphone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Hmm... I wonder why devs leave XDA...

Oh wait..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] humdrum2009:
Huh

Seriously if you want faster development get a gsm phone.

From what i have seen cdma is a pain in the ass, specifically wimax related phones.

The other phones in our category get deving completed faster, because of the euro counterparts being gsm.

And they are months ahead of us in time frames on getting phones.

Most of the legwork has been done already = easy port to gsm device.

I like cm but this phone rocks like it is, and i do not need nightlies to fix **** that's not working.

I will go as far to say this phone stock kicks cm7 in its cyan butt lol.

By the time we get cm7,cm9 will be around somewhere and that's what we should be waiting for all the ics goodies it will bring.:)

But this is just an opinion and like an anus we all have one lol.:rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
This seriously made me laugh.. Good thing I don't develop for "gratitude". It's also funny how stating my opinion is trolling because it differs from yours.. I thought the op was trolling a bit if you ask me..

Some of you people really think that devs work for you, and or that they owe you something..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
If you said **** me, well a lot of people believe in a product, as WELL as the person/company/group who makes it

thats like saying if every time i go get an apple product and they sales guy or company reps call me racial slurs each time, would i still continue to buy they product.... makes sens to you? If even i were given free ipods, most people have morals and wont sell their soul or integrity just to get something...

it seems a bit odd, and borderline bearing down against the simple logic of common sense, for a dev to have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, when they will have a project completed. When I say that, i of course dont mean they always know exactly when they will be finished(lets not be morons),but i refuse to believe that the so-called smart devs are clueless to be able to let someone know if they will be done by next week, done in a few months, are so far apart in the beginning that they know it could be years. It defies logic that a dev doesnt know the difference between being years apart from a completion, between being done in 3 hours. How the hell could a dev be so lost??

All you have to do is give a roundabout rough date,doesnt have to be accurate, just the closest to their knowledge,it seriously aint that hard.

If i started a project to renovate my house, you seriously telling me that i cant give myself an ETA between tomorrow and 2072 for completion? You simply look at how fast you are doing the job, or the job is being completed, and judge an rough estimate off that. Unless one is 5yrs old in the mind, it truly isnt that hard

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well that shows your age
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
The problem with your comparisons is, in your examples, you're PAYING someone to do a project for you.

It is their job/career.

It is their business, their lively-hood.

That is NOT the case with developers on XDA.

This is their hobby. They are not here to make a living, merely to share what they do in their spare time with the rest of us.

They do not owe you, or anyone else, anything. Whatsoever.

Period.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] poppygt:
Its funny...I can't seem to find any of your posts where you've given etas for your roms,kernels,or hacks. I mean its not that hard right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
that's the solution? seriously?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mtran2988:
^

This. And again re-iterating... Dev's don't owe us anything, we owe more to the Dev's for sharing their work they put into it.

Also, I was in an IRC chat for a long time with a dev a while back, and they get so much hate from people that are USING THEIR ROMS/KERNELS they put out. They don't donate, they contribute in testing... they flash it, and when hell breaks loose they blame the dev.

To put it in a real world situation... You're at work, you're swamped with real life problems and work, your co-worker comes up to you, asks you to let him know when your drawing for a non-work-related project is due.. you tell him "I don't know, I got a lot on my plate right now" and he kicks you in the balls for not knowing. You all that say the Dev's owe us users responses are the ball kickers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
These devs have been doing this for a while you may not have a problem with giving a eta but wait until they do and something comes up and they miss that said eta ....nothing but self entitled little *****es whining about not having the rom that said dev is providing for free....its easier to not give eta's ...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
so i guess u cant read, or chose not to read the part i said about even if i was to get free ipods right?

and i guess u chose not to read what i wrote about how we should react because we not paying for this rom right?

dont owe me or ANYONE else right?

yeh you say they not here to make a living

but you do know almost ALL the devs (that put out a semi-decent rom or something) take donations

people related to CM7 probably get the MOST donations

so they dont owe the donators **** either right? they can just say **** them like Chris41 does right?

i refuse to believe that the devs dont give a **** about donations

i refuse to believe that the devs dont like or enjoy $$ cash money $$ they get

"Most devs develop for the learning experience, and not for the masses

" oh really?

if that was the case, why the hell do they even accept donations if they just do it "as a hobby"?

so please save that B S, ok buddy?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
I don't take your hypothetical, nonsense, scenario into account so I don't read? :rolleyes:

This is absurd.

They take donations, which are completely optional, so they owe you something?

God forbid people have a way of showing their gratitude to a developer instead of just text on a screen.

You don't like it, don't donate.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
well for one, i havent pestered any cm7 dev for a release date

i never even heard of this koushi guy until this post,even though ive used cm7 on the EVO

you can go through all my post sand see i havent asked for a release from any dev from any rom

However, that doesnt stop me from voicing my opinion on the issue, since this is a discussion board

a lot of rom and kernal dev get free phones just to do their work

but most of they are like : "Thanks for the free phones, but dont say **** else to me from here on out. If you see a product you do, or if you dont u dont."

that seems to be the consensus from most devs

might sit well with yall, since you didnt "hire" him, but doesnt sit well with me

just my .02 cents
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
sprint is the bottom of the barrel .... Cdma and wimax ...both are not good and u add them in one phone ....it will get a little better when lte gets here but remember ... Evo was best phone on any carrier besides nexus 1 for six months....everyone is at a level playing field now ... Sg2 evo hell even motorola ....they are really close to each other ....every thing has pros and cons .... patience is a virtue
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
well if a dev gets donations, and folks get no products in return, sounds no different than a broad daylight robbery

but i guess you call devs that pocket money and produce nothing at all, or produce something in 14months, a god?

i guess we just differ on certain issues then
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stiffspliff:
Noun	1.	donation - a voluntary gift (as of money or service or ideas) made to some worthwhile cause

no, we don't "owe" people like you ****. just cause you donate to breast cancer doesn't mean you get to grope real life tits
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
But you can complain when you gave said dev the phone , but you didn't ... You didn't give the phone to teamwin or koush ....rootzwiki did ....koush has developed many recoveries and others based off his ..... Sad that people like u just complain and make things worse ....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
duh, who doesnt know the definition of donation

but you shouldnt have to get paid to do something you love "as a hobby"

and donate to grope tits, thats the best analogy you could come up with right? you sir, are a sad case

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i said

"a lot of rom and kernal dev get free phones just to do their work"

does that sound like im talking about one person singular?

i dont know how this could make things worse

as i stated i dont contact the devs directly to complain for nothing

devs should just understand that all the users of your Rom are not going to be one big group of a million users, ALL on the same page <--- thats where common sense should kick in but doesnt
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I am simply disgusted with the rampant sense of entitlement demonstrated here.

Hackers hack because they can, to see what they can make things do that they weren't intended to and they always have...and they always will whether you care or not, donations or not. Some of you kids just.don't.get it.

Disgraceful idiots.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stiffspliff:
how old are you? how does "giving a donation to a dev and expecting a rom" and "giving a donation to breast cancer and expecting to touch some nipple" not make a good analogy? you're EXPECTING something that you benefit from in return for a donation.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
so basically you saying they could join another board/forum, and ALL those people there would not complain one bit.They would just sit mute until a release.

all the complainers and pesters are on XDA only?

if your house got burglarized in California, i guess you would move to Iowa because that only happens in Cali?

where's your common sense thinking at buddy?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Chris41G is a dev making things for the phone and he doesn't even have one....stiffspliff is a miui dev and a damn good one .... koush and teamwin are also great devs ....while you are at it let's ostracize all the devs and you can have nothing for your phone.... Just some common sense and patience
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
for folks to feel a sense of entitlement, is really a stretch, super stretch

no one has called for that, and shows you didnt even read this topic at all and just came in to get your troll off

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you asking me how old I am, but you saying one should grope a tit for a donation?

if you cant see how idiotic of an analogy that is you sir again are truly hopeless in this world

not even going to respond to you any more until you take back that stupid analogy

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how good the devs are , has nothing to do with the topic

once you stop reaching, i'll respond to you
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stiffspliff:
lololol you're so fixated on the tits you cant even see the analogy of "expecting something to your benefit in return for a donation"

go back to freelancer.com and advertise yourself as a "android expertise" lmao

https://www.freelancer.com/users/2462815.html