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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
You seem to act as if you deserve an ETA. you seem to think that is reasonable...worth arguing about. You even seem to think you are right.

That reeks of entitlement.

ETAs are a good idea to avoid for the practical reasons already discussed here.

What are your hobbies? What if a crowd of hundreds or thousands was hounding about when you were going to finish that song or painting or engine rebuild or ship-in-a-bottle etc etc etc? That doesn't seem unreasonable to you? Simple solution? No ETAs. Nobody gets their hopes up and nobody gets annoyed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] playya:
+1 on that brotha... Hey anyone unhappy can always just unroot and go back to stock or find a phone where the developers keep you updated. The beauty of it all is you do have a choice. If some developers choose not to inform us then you got to deal with it or start developing yourself... IMHO
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
well i never said i deserved an ETA

in fact, i said ive never even asked a dev for an ETA

so once u actually read this whole topic, i'll reply back to you in depth

but for your last question, its an easy answer, i'd simply give them my best guess of an ETA up to that point in time. Would take me about 2.4 seconds to get it out my mouth

Not that hard

At all

which is my point

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sadly most devs think the same way you do

meaning that, if i think Ford or Toyota doesnt make a car up to my liking, then i should just build a whole damn car myself, really???????????

i just hate that type of asshole thinking, even though, of course, this is america,and theres no crime against being an asshole

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its an incredibly stupid analogy

even the devfanboys have to agree

and lets see, you just discovered google, and now u think you a know it all right?

so i guess this is me here to right:

http://www.quibblo.com/user/saywhat10

and this one too right?

http://www.wireclub.com/Users/saywhat10

and this guy too ???????

http://wwm.mocospace.com/saywhat10

because im the only person that uses that username right?

stop being pressed to make a wack joke
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] krazyflipj:
Again many dev's don't like giving ETA's because if they don't meet it, many people will give them ****. I know ETA's is just an estimate but lots of people just don't get it.

Bad analogy. Toyota and Ford get's paid to make cars. These devs do it for free. Yeah majority of devs have a donation link but that doesn't mean you have to donate to use their work. Alot of devs put donation links just from request from the end user.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Saywhat10 when you are done with your homework here are 3 threads to read ..... Start developing yourself ....do I need to hold your hand and install linux for you too ......

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=667298

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1OmhcB/xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1273044

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1227549

Now give us a eta when your rom will be done ...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
come on now, so devs only have a donation link because people pressed them out to have one?

so if people pressed them out to post pics of underage girls, the devs will do that too because of reqeust from the end user?

do not save the devs

WAKE UP PEOPLE , they LOVE the money, and plays a big part in their development

that "they do it for free" **** just wont fly until they actually take/accept no money whatsoever, NONE

that seems to be the whole grounds for your case, this free stuff

when in actuality, all the top devs (all ones worthy to discuss), get money in some shape or form, so that simply does NOT equate to free to me
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] magoo5289:
Damn, and I was hoping Koush actually said something.... (J/k I'm following him on G+)

I think the argument gets settled by the thanks to post ratio. Take a look at it, pretty indicative.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
forward that to the rest of the 90% of users on XDA that arent devs either

after i build my own car from the ground up because the maker called me a racial slur, then i'll start developing roms

wait for it.........
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
This clearly demonstrates that you just don't get what these developers do, what they deal with and how much time they do or do not have at any given moment. Debugging code just isn't that straightforward...neither is feature implementation, etc etc etc.

Giving a potentially worthless estimate is far worse than none.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
This is true, I didnt have a donate link for a very long time. In fact i just put it up when I released LoStKernel..

this thread should be about why Samsung/Sprint won't release an ETA or timely update, and you DO pay them.. yet the people fixing their problems for free, as a hobby, get grief because we don't feel like we should answer to you or anyone else..

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you are delusional.. how much do you think devs get in donations? I cant speak for other devs, but my donations paid my phone bill for 2 months... and Im on boost..

the people who donate, I'm very appreciative of them.. but, it seems its the ones who dont donate who complain the most.

a donation to me, is for my prior works, not an expectation of anything to come. there is no quid pro quo. dont feel obligated to donate to me, because i wont feel obligated in anyway myself..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
ive written code before,i just havent done rom work

everybody has there own area of expertise

but you simply cant tell me, that as bright as these devs must be, that they are SUPER CLUELESS, that they have no idea where they are in the stage of development of what they are doing. i will never buy that, at all, whatsoever
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Alright we get it, you don't like current developer practices.

So start developing and be the change you want.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
i may not be the brightest individual in the world,or even in this topic, but i do know what the definition of the word FREE is.

for a dev to do a rom/kernel FREE, means they take/accept no money whatsoever,because of course, we talking FREE

now you guys can cover up, conspire, sugar coat, hide behind a tree, this donation thing, but donation is MONEY.

MONEY does not equal FREE in this world

you cant see no better than Ray charles if you cant admit MONEY(yes donation,which somehow magically really isnt money) and EGO, plays a role in most ,if not all, of the POPULAR devs (keyword popular, like CM7)

end of story

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I told you, after i build my own luxury vehicle from the ground up, developing the rom is next on the list

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but you have no problem accepting money, even though you're doing your work "for free" right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
think of it this way, maybe we do know.. but we dont want to tell you because you seem extremely ungrateful, and talk like you are owed something..

do you know how long things get tested before release? and what about when things go wrong in testing and need to be fixed before release. and what if we cant figure the problem out easily?

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If you cant see that a donation is a gift of appreciation, not compensation.. then you really didnt read the definition.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
its called updating

HOW HARD IS THAT, SERIOUSLY?

you give people periodic updates, not that hard. Not remotely hard

most devs dont do it just to be an ass

If i was writing an old Pascal program, i could easily give updates on twitter every few days or weeks or so on twitter

HOW HARD IS THAT?

the devs are way brigher than me in this area but when i write programs, or do projects, if anybody asked me at what stage am im in the project, i could easily tell them (else i'd be a retard if i couldnt)

and a donation is a gift,an appreciation, never said it wasnt. Quote me if i did

but how in turn, can you NOT see, that donation is MONEY

you cant buy an iPad with appreciation, even with a forum full of appreciation, but you can buy it with enough donations

you just refuse to accept that donations are $$ money $$ huh?

sad case
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Saywhat10 you are either truely retarded or a troll ....I should hope that someone as stupid as you sound would have been taken care of by survival of the fittest....you are under no obligation to donate ....that means free .... You also realize that some devs ex... Cyanogen have their own servers and pay for bandwidth that you leeches use to download their roms .....so donations are welcomed ....with that being said teamwin who reverse engineered the 4g on evo didn't accept bounty that was over $4000 .....but yes your right all dev$ are money hungry and your an idiot ....peace out
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
retarded because i dont believe in your views? yeh ok mr right

and i guess you too believe that if someone donates $4 to breast cancer they should be able to grab some tits right?

not speaking to you either, because you're delusional in that thinking
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jonnyisback:
just stop feeding the troll....... or better yet just ignore him.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
I was actually thinking that your continued reliance on flawed logic was showing either your age or your complete lack of cognitive reasoning skills.

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Unless and until you develop something and release it to the community, you will have no idea what it's like, so therefore you have no standing to put yourself in a developer's shoes to try to guess at how annoying it can get to have 100 people asking you for eta's constantly.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
the troll started the topic

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oh,but i have released things to strangers (community)

just not roms

so please read before you sound foolish

thats part of the background of me knowing that is seriously isnt to hard to post an update
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
I usually don't say this about people, but you are truly mentally deficient. Your arguments make no logical sense and you have the grammatical/language skills of a child.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
my comments only make no logical sense, if you have no common sense

so get a tutor, then try again

unless im submitting a term paper, or writing a legal document or such

i could care less about my grammar on a discussion board full of strangers,talking about how donation is not really money....

so if your best offense is to attack my grammar, go right ahead, mr language scholar

but unless you have 2 peas in a pod for a brain, you clearly understand all that ive written
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kcyen18:
I rather wait for a perfectly working rom instead of devs releasing it to make the demanded ETA.

It would suck to wait for an update for my non-working phone due to rom being rushed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
im simply talking an update on progess

not necessarily releasing an update

and i would never, and iam not saying, for a dev to release an update prematurely

this whole topic is based on the simplicity of giving a VERBAL update

not a physical rom release

VERBAL updates are simply not that hard. Period

(verbal also means simply typing a one line statement on the net)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jerdog:
Going to try and nip this in the bud right here and now. Read the below

XDA Mantra

Now get this and get it clearly. Devs do this for free. You donate out of the goodness of your heart but it in NO way gives you the "purchasing power" to demand anything from a developer. This entitlement attitude you have is despicable. Your attitude has helped to contribute to the state of our site.

XDA-Developers exists for the developers and you come here and contribute of your own free will - and you donate of your own free will. Period. You don't like it - don't donate. You don't like that - go somewhere else.

Let's break this down a little bit here - XDA is....

XDA is a developers site

XDA is a free forum you are ALLOWED to use. We could make it invite only

XDA is and always will be about the developers. And before you say without the users there would be no XDA, Bull****, who do you think used the stuff before normal people even knew what a smartphone was......wait for it.........other developers. People that could give good feedback with relavent info. Not just "dahhh this is broken, please fix".

XDA is not....

XDA is not a place to come and make your phone cool.

XDA is not the cool place for idiots to hang out.

XDA is not your friends house

XDA is not a democracy

XDA is not a place to make Money.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
that still in no way relates to philosophy of what im talking about

please tell me how that articles agrees that donation does not equal money?

are you saying people donate in monopoly money or something?

and, if you can read, and have read, i never said paying a dev entitled folks to anything

i never said free leechers off roms are entitled to anything

never did

and you cant quote me anywhere for saying that

all i said is, donation equals real life money, and totally disagree that you guys think devs could care less about the money

all i said, well requested, is that for devs to be a lil more user friendly, THATs ALL

i never even said we the users are "entitled" for the devs to be user friendly

i simply suggested, that since its known a dev will be dealing with the masses, that they can be a lil more kind, THAT's it

everything else being mentioned is just reaching to the ultimate degree

and again lets not forget, i never PM'd or openly in a topic begged any dev for an ETA, i am simply a supporter of the KIND PERSON logic

you cant find any topic of me asking for an ETA for any ROM, so stop acting like I'M one of the pesters. No dev can come in and say i pestered them for a release,NOT ONE

your gripe is with other people

i am simply trying to spread good kind logic, to these devs
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] impactsto:
You sir, have hit the proverbial nail on the head. It seems as more "childish" people flock to the site from an Engadget/Gizmodo/whatever link; the more it becomes a open forum for people to act foolish. I don't care what your age is, respect is something universal. Devs do this because THEY enjoy their work and wish to share it.

THERE IS NO ENTITLEMENT!! If you think YOU are owed an update to something you have no involvment in simply because you want it, you are sorely mistaken. I wish there was a way to for mods to restrict the posts of these morons. I feel like every thread now is filled with whiney idots who either do not appreciate what they were given, complain about an update, or did something wrong and are blaming everyone but themselves.

As for CM, it will be here when it gets here. Till then, keep your phone stock, try out one of the great ROMs available from our current devs, or sell your phone and clutter a different forum up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jerdog:
No, you are trolling and badgering other devs and saying that donations entitle you to receive something from a developer. It's reasonable to expect to be treated with kindness - but you also have to expect that if you do not treat others with kindness you shouldn't expect it in return (even though following the Golden Rule is a good way to live life). That goes towards everyone. One and all.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jerdog:
I said leave it alone and move on. You have been bashing everyone who has an opinion different than your own.

In addition my post was directed to everyone - so let it stand there. And you have no idea what is being said to anyone else on the forum - so don't make any judgments of which you have no idea what you are talking about. That's it. Done.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LordRasta:
I know I'm late to the party but it took forever to get out from under T-Mobile so I could finally get this phone.

It's rooted with MY stock ROM, CWM 5.0.2.2 and su 3.0.6. Wireless tether works great but I cannot get the wired tether 1.4 to work. Remember I have my stock ROM so there is no libnativetask.so under /system/lib.

Is there anything else I can try? I set the phone to charge only, start the tether and it sits at "identifying" on my Win 7 64bit machine. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I did install HTC Sync from my sd card.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ewynn9:
On the 15th I went to the Texas State Fair in Dallas. I know alot of people haven't been there or heard of it but most know that Dallas is AT&T's HQ. Naturally there is a giant freaking AT&T tower on South end of the fair.By far the biggest tower I've seen in this area.

Here's the funny part. On the north end of the fair I had perfect service. The closer I got to the south end, my service got worse and worse until I finally had the LOS symbol. my girlfriends evo had no signal either.

I couldn't believe that tower was so strong that it would literally block my service. I tested this theory through out that day and it happened every single time.

That was the only time i've gotten the dreaded LOS.

Anyway just thought I'd share.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
That is Los of service but that is not the bug that everyone is talking about. The bug is getting LOS and it nit coming back without a reboot.

Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saranhai:
hey guys, my friend just got a MT4G, non rooted (no interest in rooting :eek:).

and he was "showing off" to me today when his hardware buttons suddenly stopped working. only the trackpad worked when he scrolled using it. all the rest of the buttons stopped working :confused:

finally i had to do a battery pull and reboot.. not sure if that fixed the issue (class was starting lol). i'll ask him again on monday.

but just wondering, has any of you guys encountered this issue before?

he's got S-On, and the stock gingerbread 2.3.4.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manleyaudio:
Haven't heard that about the hardware? I have heard about stock froyo randomly deleting all text messages tho.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cbutt:
Kinda, the back button on my phone gets stuck sometimes to the point where I can't push it/use it.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] option94:
Build quality on the mt4g was never the greatest.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crawler9:
My home button stopped working, so I sent my phone to HTC to have it repaired. (:
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saranhai:
yup totally... but still, it's pretty weird... that's never happened to any of the three MT4Gs my family own.
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cbutt:
Yea, I have the white one & my physical buttons suck. My back & other buttons often get stuck & my power button feels pretty loose. My battery door is also a little rickety. My boyfriend (i'm a girl, btw) has a black one & his buttons are much better, no sticking, no looseness. Kinda a crapshoot with these phones...
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saranhai:
haha really? i would've thought a girl would've chosen a better name :rolleyes:

lol no offense intended
[myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cbutt:
Yea it's the first four letters of my last name, so no offense taken...
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
I am sick to my stomach. I tried to update my WIND version of the G2X to the T-Mobile V21E_00.kdz to get the newer baseband installed but it caused my phone to get stuck at "S/W upgrade Please wait while upgrading..." and the V21E_00.kdz

file I downloaded is corrupted (I've downloaded a few from various sources). I did do the NVFlash recovery and installed ClockworkMod Recovery before I did that but nothing I've tried, and I've tried virtually everything to resurrect my LG-P999 phone, worked. Various flashers I've used stop at extracting the V21E_00.kdz because it is corrupted. The normal LG update tool that is used for the T-Mobile G2X doesn't work for the WIND Mobile phone version because it detects that it isn't a T-Mobile phone and won't install the update and won't do an emergency repair. This phone can't be returned to WIND or LG because the upgrade I tried is "unauthorized" and they won't help.

Does anyone here know where I can get a good copy of V21E_00.kdz which will fully extract and, if you do, please post the link to it.
[LG Optimus 2x] Supupa:
Is your phone the T mobile version?
[LG Optimus 2x] Striatum_bdr:
Why don't you ask here:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1114

Your phone is a p999 if I understood correctly.

I think you should use nvflash to restore a proper system, it always work. Ask in p999 forums.
[LG Optimus 2x] jhoude:
corrupted kdz

Hi Core Memory, I don't know if you finally got an answer to your problem, but I got stock in similar situation, T-Mobile G2X that no longer boot after doing a LG update,

tried the various ClockworkMod Recovery, nvflash, root, nandroid, img, fixes,

but ended with that procedure as last resort, which failed with the various files I tried. same corrupted error message while extracting...

In my case, the error message was misleading,

I finally notice that the file I tried were containing a space: 'P999 V21E_00.kdz' apparently those kind of tool can be picky, I just try removing the space in the name P999_V21E_00.kdz

My guess was right, I restarted the procedure and everything went fine,

the phone is now up and running, using Gingerbread (2.3.4 I think)

hope this can help,

Jonathan
[LG Optimus 2x] Core Memory:
Thanks for your help.

I did get the problem solved a long time ago and have learned a lot since those early days of owning the G2X. The V21E kdz file installs Gingerbread 2.3.3.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mustangboy88:
My friend has an Epic and about 2 months ago he left it on top of his car. He did the insurance claim through asurion and everything was good for awhile. Within the last week, his phone would be unplugged, but would still show it charging. Although it wasn't and then eventually die. So he took it to the corporate store for repair and they replaced the battery. Last night it happened to him again. So today he went back and they tore it apart and said the circuit board was corroded.

My question is.... Should he have to pay for an insurance claim again, or should Sprint just replace the phone? This is obviously nothing of his fault. No water damage present.

Sent from my Google Nexus S 4G
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennyG123:
He should go to a supervisor. he should argue that he was given a bad refurb.
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bfitz26:
This my 2 epic in 4 months last one I got wouldn't hold a change and they gave me a new this fall under manufactures warrenty
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ac16313:
Yeah he should be under some 30 day thing even with a refurb as well, maybe squshy can shed some light.

But yeah I've noticed more people having that problem, for me it got worse and eventually I couldn't turn my phone on.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[HTC Sensation] Ploone:
Hey guys,

Got my hands on the Otterbox commuter for the HTC Sensation and I wanted to share my thoughts on the case. It is well built and feels solid in the hand, this will definitely provide great protection. The port coverings are useful and fit well, but the back is a little slippery. Watch the video below for all the info:

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[HTC Sensation] tawne:
thx for the video mate