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[Fascinate Android Development] lt.anthonydelgado:
okay so i am in love with this sh**... lol just waiting for these last bugs to be squashed and it's a definite choice!
[Fascinate Android Development] wideopn11:
Thanks for this, its everything I expect in an alpha. Lots of stuff works and lots of stuff needs work. I'm glad you are working on it.

Few things I tested that I haven't seen listed yet: adb reboot only reboots the phone it does not go to recovery, but the good news is that adb does recognize the device. I might need to run some sdk updates to see if that has any effect.

My computer sees a device connected but I am unable to get into usb mode to transfer files.

I'm on ED05 radio and it seemed ok at first but now I have lost it completely and need to odin radio back on.

More to come...

Successfully reflashed radio with odin, calls work but also could not hang up.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
New Alpha Release 4 will be out in like 20 minutes.
[Fascinate Android Development] spartan.062:
Right after I JUST finished downloading alpha 3? :( More time to wait. . .
[Fascinate Android Development] MarleyBoi:
will sms be working in this new release?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
If you go to The messaging app.

Go to settings within the app

And scroll down to where it says "Receive Messages While Roaming" (Or something similar).

Then it works sometimes.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
New alpha is up.
[Fascinate Android Development] bbeaulieu:
What's updated in the new alpha?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Its all in the 2 post.
[Fascinate Android Development] Huntredgo:
Lol :)

Jk in all actuality this is aiming to be a fairly successful rom, and hopefully as you become more familiar with it you can squash some of these seemingly random bugs :)
[Fascinate Android Development] MarleyBoi:
thank yhu so much...love ur work! keep it going!
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
How does MMS work without 2G/3G? I've never been able to download a multimedia message without either of those two.
[Fascinate Android Development] Killarny:
That's why the first post says MMS doesn't work :P
[Fascinate Android Development] dogg94:
MMS doesn't right now, but receiving SMS does sometimes if you set it up for roaming as Enyo said, it seems to always allow sending SMS as long as the radio is working, 3 out of 4 boots worked for me the other time it appeared to not be able to get the radio out of airplane mode. One other thing I noticed, it appears that some of the root programs aren't prompting superuser as they should and as a result they hang, but turning superuser on to always allow fixed that problem...granted this is not the permanent way to run it but at least the rights you want can get accepted then perhaps turn that option off. Thanks again man is amazing
[Fascinate Android Development] johndiblasi:
Every bug works correctly! Lol. Keep up the good work enyo. Ill be watching the thread for a more complete port. Thank you
[Fascinate Android Development] dandog96:
I thought sdk builds were never functional, so how is this working?
[Fascinate Android Development] dogg94:
I believe this build is in the process of proving that wrong...
[Fascinate Android Development] MarleyBoi:
eh still cant get the messages and my phone calls wont work..hmm..still love this though
[Fascinate Android Development] TheSonicEmerald:
Does Alpha4 hang up now?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Hopefully beta 5 will be up soon.
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Maybe tonight? :D

The only thing I need working would be Phone calls and Text Messaging so I can use it as a daily and still test and debug it.
[Fascinate Android Development] dogg94:
I'll second that I can get wifi at work and home...and i'm a big enough junkie for new flashes this would satisfy my need for a little while
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
More like tomorrow night or later this week since its major.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
I know. I'm now building it again from the sdk.
[Fascinate Android Development] NH2G:
Cool. Again, Amazing work.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Yes, and why?
[Fascinate Android Development] NuclearEMP:
just browsing around the alpha and seems to be all s5pc110's.(not aries)

wondering if that is causing the negative display color and video glitch.
[Fascinate Android Development] Dj-Dubster_TN:
Once 3g gets up on this I'm totally installing, can someone post a screen****?

Edit: screenshot * (damned auto correct)
[Fascinate Android Development] shobon:
Why would screenshot autocorrect to screen**** :confused:
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Fixed WiFi and Bluetooth. Now trying to fix 3g and the touchscreen.
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Does messaging (both sms and mms) work?
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
No not at the moment. But will soon
[Fascinate Android Development] ali1276:
How did you fix WiFi?
[Fascinate Android Development] Junkboy0:
Thanks man once this gets a little smoother I'll try out, also stop monopolizing my thanks :p
[Fascinate Android Development] jvincent08:
Now what did we say about giving deadlines...

Also, alpha 3? Where's alpha 2?
[Fascinate Android Development] xHoLyx:
Well he will name it whatever he feels like.
[Fascinate Android Development] Charm8er:
Flashed tonight to check it out, very glitchy. It looks promising though. My screen was discolored at bit, blue was yellow. Went back to CM7 for now, cant wait for a daily driver of this rom.
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
I'm getting a bit tired of the flaming. enyo owes us nothing! if he posts a deadline and don't meet it, who cares. Are you paying him to build a rom?? ok then...troll elsewhere!
[Fascinate Android Development] Junkboy0:
I read that as more of a jesting comment than flaming, so relax :o
[Fascinate Android Development] droidstyle:
Ok my apologies... I took your post the wrong way!!
[Fascinate Android Development] jvincent08:
Junkboy0 has it right :)

But really, alpha 3? Haha
[Fascinate Android Development] Junkboy0:
It wasn't my post but it also wasn't from the people who posted in the previous thread that were jumping down Enyo's throat. :)
[Fascinate Android Development] NuclearEMP:
Enyo please add SD support before camera flash ;)

I actually got into a argument with my wife over this ROM.

She didn't seem to understand why I needed to flash a Rom that didn't work :p

I was like " hun it boots fine " lol. Keep up the good work Enyo,
[Fascinate Android Development] dogg94:
Still awesome man thanks for this, now get some well deserved rest!!
[Fascinate Android Development] Sheradrax:
So do can calls hang up? I will use this with just text and calling.
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
And now it is time for "Random Observations".

By PhoenixPath.

Making calls seems to work, but disconnecting is not working, nor am I able to "answer" calls.

Phantom ringing also does not stop when making another call (ala CM7).

The interface is smooth and works well.

...just experienced a random shut-down while typing this.

Amazingly, does not seem to suffer from "Wifi connected but unusable at boot" that CM7/MIUI suffer from.

Am able to connect to my Google account and my contacts do sync.

No gmail. No ability to get it from Market that I can decipher.

Wifi seems incredibly slow (downloading Google Maps and Voice search took 5 minutes). Yowza. Installing them (after downloads completed) took 5 more. (Damn, brotha)

GPS: Fail. Stuck on "Waiting for Location" in Maps. "GPS TEST" app download only took 10 seconds and install took less than a minute. Could not run, FC.

3-finger salute time. Can't wait to see this working from Source. (Or on my G-Nex...)
[Fascinate Android Development] dogg94:
I am currently back on cm7 (until phone and text is good) but I only made one phone call and I had to have them hang up,I couldn't I couldn't cancel the call either once it started, I was able to send texts (SMS) successfully with no problem but only received 1 out if 5 sent to me (two of them were sent before the roaming setting was changed but I thought they would sort of spool up, they don't it seems that Verizon's end must think you got them..
[Fascinate Android Development] blkhockeypro19:
Not smooth

Anyone saying that this is smooth is lying.

Let me first say that this is amazing and Enyo, you are truly the greatest.

BUT, people who are saying that it's smooth are ridiculous. Yes, some things are smooth, but CM7 was certainly smoother. There is good reason behind this- clearly, a graphics driver is missing. It explains the lack of screen off animation, as well as the under 10FPS quadrant benchmarks.

When the Nexus S gets an official port (is it already out?)... then will the graphics driver work on our device? They have the same hummingbird processor, so I'd imagine it will work fine on our phone.

Cheers everyone. Enjoy the ICS goodness. This is still amazing even without the graphics driver.
[Fascinate Android Development] bbeaulieu:
Yeah guys! Just because it runs smoothly for you doesn't mean it actually is! God!
[Fascinate Android Development] mwestendorf:
on another note what gapps are people using is there a way to get the gmail.apk?

thanks

oh and this is very smooth!

Edit: just saw it was removed in the last release. I'll sit back and wait patiently
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Try this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18288455&postcount=1
[Fascinate Android Development] mwestendorf:
from what I read that is just the market and based on the version 3.2.0, is already included with this alpha
[Fascinate Android Development] blkhockeypro19:
If there is no graphics driver, it's not running smoothly.

Perhaps other people's standards of "smooth" are different; in that case, I am 100% wrong.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Nexus S port is simply an SDK port like this one. Idk if it runs better or not, but there will be no "official" port for anyone until source is released.

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
It's okay. It's not like hardware acceleration was a main selling point or even a feature in ICS. Considering that, the other guy is probably right and you just have super sensitive eyes that can see screen transitions faster than a steaming locomotive able to discern imperfections in a single glance....

=/

Im going to go back to enjoying my glass shard filled ice cream.
[Fascinate Android Development] Captain_Nero:
It is to me

*Get Chance and Luck*
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Calendar won't sync to my Google account :/ Wi-fi works fine, no problems with the graphics. Browsing the internet just fine at the moment. Running Market 3.2.0 w/ the latest ICS Gmail. Love the new Gmail app for ICS.
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Also found that the gallery doesn't work. It relies on the camera for some reason.
[Fascinate Android Development] Sheradrax:
i cant receive sms. any ideas how to fix this?

also. are there any kernels for this that might work?
[Fascinate Android Development] NuclearEMP:
WOW!!!

Two updates in one night....now that's what I'm talkin' bout.

Keep it rolling Enyo, great job.
[Fascinate Android Development] Mean Sixteen:
Enyo......nice work!!!

I cannot believe how well this works.

When some of the noted problems are fixed this will be awesome.

I am still gonna use it as is for a day or two.
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
Lmao... Trollololol. Wow. You've some nerve, that's for sure.
[Fascinate Android Development] xHoLyx:
I don't see how he is trolling. He has valid point.
[Fascinate Android Development] Dj-Dubster_TN:
Well for an sdk port...its pretty damn skippy
[Fascinate Android Development] xHoLyx:
Well he didn't need to call him troll that's where I'm getting at.
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
Facebook app also crashes.
[Fascinate Android Development] NuclearEMP:
well if Facebook crashes this can't be a good rom......... :P
[Fascinate Android Development] mwestendorf:
Schmarvin did you get the gmail.apk from the alpha 3 build?

I took it from that build and pushed it to the latest one.

I haven't used it long enough to see if it crashes or not.

Sent from my Fascinate using ICS
[Fascinate Android Development] Schmarvin:
I believe its the one for the upcoming nexus phone. It works fine.

Just wish I could get sms/mms to work.
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
When I say "trololol" I'm only using it as an expression, kinda like a new(ish) way to say "lol", which is stale and overused (trololol is, too, but not quite as much). I don't use it to call people trolls. Perhaps PhoenixPath wasn't either (even though he did say "Trollololol" with 2 l's at the beginning).

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] Dj-Dubster_TN:
Well thats agreeable
[Fascinate Android Development] PhoenixPath:
:confused:I don't see how he is trolling. He has valid point.:confused:

He called everyone who had the opinion that the interface was "smooth" a liar. It wasn't implied, or subtle innuendo. He flat out called them all liars. There are two ways to take that: He said it with a sense of humor (trolling for lulz), or was being a jerk. I responded in the hopes it was the former.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trollolol

I didn't expect some kind of Spanish Inquisition. :D

Irregardless: If anyone took offense, my apologies. Humor does not always translate well on teh intarwebz.
[Fascinate Android Development] xwhofarted:
Sorry for any doubt in you Enyo.

I just flashed this and it runs WAY better than i thought it would, keep up the good work!

oh man i cant wait until this is a daily driver! kudos to you!
[Fascinate Android Development] linuxayn:
great job! I will try when 3G-2G connection is OK...
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
Well there really aren't mods on XDA in the traditional sense. Threads stay as there are unless they are reported. Then even if a thread is reported in most cases it will stay as it is unless the infraction is rather obvious.

It is funny though how the people who help and contribute (even if they may not reach the level of dev) generally call Enyo on stuff while the masses that have never contributed anything blindly follow him. Just sayin.

So it's your opinion that you are the vox populi and that your opinion is a fact? But you said it wasn't an opinion, in fact. Unless it's a fact that your opinion is an opinion.
[Fascinate Android Development] sageDieu:
Hey now, I'm 16. I take it as an insult that these people who act so immature and just plain dumb are compared to me since I try to be mature and stay out of any flame wars. Now seriously people...

the general thread that was full of flamers and trolls and morons was dumb. people expected enyo to everything perfectly and to do it when they want it done, not when enyo wants to spend his own personal time to do it. he has a bad track record of posting dumb things and the whole miui rom, that is admittable.

But seriously, the flaming in this thread has got to stop. Enyo has worked hard and put a ton of time into it, and many users have said that it is very good and works very well. You should expect no more than what the developer gives. It pisses me off every time I see somebody talk about ETAs or things that should be fixed already or bash him for something not being perfect. If you don't like it then go download the SDK and make your own rom. Leave this thread as a place to discuss the development of this rom or ask questions about it. If you don't like it, don't use it and don't waste anybody's time talking about it.

/rant

Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
[Fascinate Android Development] suppliesidejesus:
I love this thread. It almost makes up for the poll thread being closed.
[Fascinate Android Development] Dj-Dubster_TN:
Ok stop where are you getting these from xD
[Fascinate Android Development] :
This was tweeted by some of the respected names on here:

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Navigating the interwebs is simple, use google... :D
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Flash it for your self to see.
[Fascinate Android Development] suppliesidejesus:
I'll just call you...wait, that won't work, I know I'll text you...wait, nope. How about a tweet! Well, if you aren't near wifi, that's a no-go. Oops, just rebooted.
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
Why is there a cup of espresso in your signature, Enyo? You should know that robots (and androids) run on alcohol and not coffee. Have Futurama and JT's coding sessions taught you nothing?
[Fascinate Android Development] rmtobler:
Just an observation: The people complaining about trolling are becoming more obnoxious and higher in numbers than the accused trolls. I can't believe the comment about the smoothness lead to 2 pages of bs. Enyo has definitely brought this on himself though. The only reason to check this thread is to see if he can prove people wrong or get exposed for something ridiculous regarding the rom.
[Fascinate Android Development] genaro12543:
+1

is enyo doing something to block others from contributing something better? If someone did wouldnt people just not flash what he contributes because its **** compared to whatever is out thats better?

hes gonna work at his own pace. its only gonna get better once source drops anyway why are people giving this guy a hard time for giving us something to play with while we wait?

contribute something better or stfu is the way i see it =]
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
amurrica! Love it or leave it. Ya hear yall?

But if you want to go down that road... compare this thread along with Enyo's thread here and the one in general hyping this thread and the poll in general hyping the thread that hypes this thread along with hyping his other ROMS.

syndtr releases a ROM which was more functional (at the time) than what enyo had been hyping. Getting to that point took skill but. it's the last 10-20% that takes 95% of the work if it's even do-able without source. So the syndtr realizes that and doesn't make any promises. No hype, no bull****.

On the other hand, Enyo starts hyping something that won't be acceptably functional for weeks, if not months, if ever. Further, to promise "full functionality" is raising the ire of many as SDK ports historically do not and can not be fully functional. He makes posts that make it seem like he and JT were collaborating even though JT stated he would not touch ICS until source came out (turned out the extent of the help was a twitter question). Then there's the build-prop edit ROMS... He's basically ape-ing the Steve Jobs style of reality distortion without ever actually fulfilling that promise. People don't like to be BS'ed and they are being more vocal about it. That's what has people going as far as I see it.

+1 for effort. -2 for style.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Actually after the radio is fixed, it will be acceptably functional.
[Fascinate Android Development] bobloblaw1:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19147013&postcount=102

But you said you were done already yesterday.

And my point still stands. You started hyping this in mid October and you say its not acceptabley functional yet. Just take a chill pill man. Stop putting so much pressure on yourself and whipping the noobs up into a tizzy.
[Fascinate Android Development] suppliesidejesus:
That's my favorite part of all of this. This port wouldn't even be close if syndtr hadn't done most of the work before going "meh, I'll wait for source."
[Fascinate Android Development] OldManJames:
Thats kind of the most important part of a phone being functional and also the hardest part. Next time you might wanna get that working before even starting a rom thread. Just a thought.
[Fascinate Android Development] Enyo.:
Yea I know its the hardest part.
[Fascinate Android Development] bigjobber69:
And boom goes the dynamite!
[Fascinate Android Development] NuclearEMP:
it's funny you say this because I can recall having experienced all of the above with JT, PBJ, TSM or any other devs roms at one point in time.

Stop trashin' and start flashin'
[Fascinate Android Development] OldManJames:
TSM has never put out a rom that didnt make calls or have 3g/wifi capability. Check your facts
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Very classy response... That said, it's better to fix the radio issues first and then post the thread, like Old Man James suggested (he doesn't call himself an Old Man for nothing - who actually brags about being old? :D) (just kidding OMJ) When you know you have a very alpha build, don't hype it up too much - this is what ignites the flame wars. Do a search for one of jt's older CM7 threads and you'll see how he handled it (because his initial CM7 builds had just as many things not working - only he didn't try to build off an SDK). Perhaps it might have been better for you also to have waited for source - just sayin'

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] OldManJames:
Random fact of the day...... Im only 29
[Fascinate Android Development] skynet11:
Yeah I know you're not actually old :D

Has anyone seen John Connor?
[Fascinate Android Development] nitsuj17:
i wouldnt have jumped back in here...but since we got called out..might as well

1. jt had in progress or development versions of aosp pretty much from october of last year through cm becoming fully functional this spring and a lot was broken

however...

he always listed specifically what worked, and what didnt and stressed that there was no eta for when stuff would be fixed

(opposite of what goes on in here)

2. imnuts (pbj kernels) constantly fixed what he put out when he had a fascinate and got it *right* pretty quickly

3. we (tsm) amongst pool party, comrom, resurrection, andmer's miui on the i500 and our many roms on the dinc2 have never put out something that didnt work...are there bugs? sure, we note them as they come and fix them as they arise

the 3 people/groups listed above never make "hype" threads or "everyone is using my roms!" threads (and make up bull**** fractions that dont add up to support my ridiculous claims)...at best occasionally we ll post pics in our existing rom threads or make known what we are working

and fwiw jt has supported the phone from the beginning and without what he does there wouldnt an espresso cm clone or anything

and the rest of us through whatever contributions have been with the phone from the beginning more or less, even if those contributions didnt become significant til the winter

should the op be commended for trying to become a developer and helping out the community? of course...everyone has to start somewhere

are the more established fascinate developers going out their way to "stifle" him? no, but a lot of what has gone on (from fake miui frauds to never ending hype threads) hasnt made us particulary fond of him or his progress...and most of his collaboration seems to be asking random questions of people on twitter

a lot of people are desperate to flash sdk ports for some reason...and thats great. but the second source for ics comes out and jt, sbrissen, whoever get to work on it, then it will be a much better measuring stick of what ics is/does rather than just trying this out

/end rambling
[Fascinate Android Development] NuclearEMP:
So your telling me that TSM and all the other devs release "perfect roms" every time?

and I can say for a fact that almost all the devs have experienced no mms at one point too.

and reboots? are you kidding me? Theres a reason most of the people here including devs keep making new roms.....to improve over their last rom

here is my proof

I wrote this prior to nitsuj's response: "should the op be commended for trying to become a developer and helping out the community? of course...everyone has to start somewhere" +1 to this

Maybe Enyo's ethics are off, but he in his own sense is trying. Even some of the best things in the world are rip-offs of someone elses work.

By the way, I am in no way bashing the other devs, for I am obsessed with flashing their roms on a weekly basis and am thankful that they give so much to choose from.