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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] a_c_s:
Can anyone comment on battery life with the now officially released EL29 vs EL13? I've been on SS's EL13 ROM/MODEM/KERNEL combo dating back to 12/20 and it's been a pretty good daily driver... battery life is pretty good, system never crashes, no real complaints... I've paid attention to most of the updates over the past 4-5 weeks since I last flashed, and most appear cosmetic...

Is there a reason at this point for me to make the jump? I have a lot of apps and customizations, so it takes a good hr to get my system back up to snuff every time I flash, no matter how much of the process I automate...

Any quick advice on whether EL29 is worth the jump for this specific ROM would be appreciated...

Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I am going to give you my honest opinions on all of that.

Comparing the two builds.. Jar structure is a bit different whereas, apps are the same. Except for phone and contacts to a slight degree

EL29 Modem seems to be better and kernels all seems to be about the same.

Battery life seemed better with EL13

You are right.. my updates are mostly cosmetic so if you really dont care about that.. then there isnt any need to update

The phone answer screen.. I didnt like it at first but it has grown on me (pulling out the circles instead of horizontally sliding) Plus.. I have made the images look great :D.

Some people have to be on the latest build. I am the type that I do not need to be on the latest leak but I do have to be on the latest OTA.. hence the updated build..

Anyways.. either way, I am glad you chose my rom.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1brainsurgeon:
IMO it's best to keep up with the latest updates. More importantly, there is a very simple and non time consuming way to restore your exact setup. Nandroid what you're running now>wipe>flash update>reboot system>let it load>boot back into recovery>go to restore>advanced restore>choose your last backup>restore data>reboot. Your device will be exactly as it was. You'll have all of your text...everything.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
My market has white text on a light grey background and it is hard to read. Is it suppose to look like that or is something wrong with my market?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] il buono:
This only happened to me after changing my lcd res. Which I know you do :p

Edit: also, I didn't bother looking for a fix since I don't mind the regular 240 setting haha.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I totally agree with strongesteve. Its best to be on latest build but my EL13 setup was the best on battery. I swear, if I went to sleep with full charge on wifi, after 6 to 8 idle hours battery was at 97 or 98% on EL13. Edit...its still about 95 or 96% so its not a major difference. I am comparing apps to see if I added anything recently that is using battery as well. Could be that Chris kernel too..where's his EL29?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eman3316@optonline.net:
Hell yeah I do! haha 160 baby!

Thanks, I will just push a different market apk.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mpcdata:
Welp I'm running the EL29 rom with EL29 modem and Chris EL26 kernel and my battery is as good as ever. John did you ever get your adw odexed for this version?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Do we need to theme the dialer some more? Ima gettin bored.. snicker

How about this nice January weather :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mkuehn10:
The weather here in WV has been crazy warm. I am a teacher... No hope for snow days. :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I am playing with the bottom buttons.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Compudizzal:
Steve you are right....I have flashed and flashed... Now I flash no more... Here to stay.thank you very very much. This is right on now. I'm loven the menu bar scheme. I remember you were going to try it a while back. But op'd for the more blue. I'm still with ya. I have convinced atleast 10 friends to load this ROM and our manager thought this is what it shipped with. Man you can go commercial with this ROM.. Bad ass Strong Steve keeping it moving. Four flashes this week and looking forward to the next one. Awesome... Some one said a few,pages back .........what's the name of it.. I would say "N'Vious"
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Thanks man.. appreciate that!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shades333:
Blue numbers that show up while dialing a number? That might look cool. (The numbers that appear in white in section above dial pad)...wonder how it would look? Btw great Rom, you really do awesome work.

*only suggested because you asked...lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
I like it =D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Carbajal3009:
Love the detail. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
thats a good idea.. I am gonna try that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
That's why I mentioned Chris's kernel as the possible missing piece!!!

No sir I didn't get an odexed ADW EX but would certainly like one! I was going to bump this just because it deserved it, now I actually have a reason....lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
Where are u in WV? I.live in Martinsburg WV and it is crazy warm. 63 today. Usually its in the 30s
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Ok.. I am back using Chris EL26 kernel as well.

If you do that, you can delete bootanimation.zip and Sanim.zip from system/media

In the last update or two, I put the Galaxy SII animations in for stock.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
off topic

I always get the best workouts when its cold. I hate working out in the heat.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
John: I had crazy good battery life with Chris41's kernels too. It was noticeable immediately. As I recall, Calkulin's 2.7 EL26 Rom with Chris's kernel and EL26 modem was the best for me. We discussed that on another thread a couple days ago. I don't think I tried it with EK02 or EL13 though. Chris hasn't released an EL29 build. Sfhub put Rogues kernel in his auto root package for EL29. I think I read Chris is working hard on a Rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] haxxorcist:
seen posts a few times of some green stuff in GoLauncher that stromgsteve includes in the rom. I know it's updated pretty often and maybe not worth the effort for all the .9.png files in there, but I had some time yesterday and thought I'd see if I could do something about all that green and orange.

I know the logo is a clover leaf but it was just so.....green.

first time I've messed with an app, but turned out pretty ok.

if anyone's interested, I'll post a download link.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
excellent. I would work on that myself except that I do not use it at all. .9 pngs are really easy if you do them in a decompiled state. Also, there is a xml in values called colors.. there is a lot that can be done there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] haxxorcist:
should be able to just push or copy the apk and odex files to

/system/app/

http://hotfile.com/dl/144807598/0731520/GoLauncher-2.77.blue.odexed.zip.html

I haven't done any work on any of the xmls, but pretty much all the pngs that were green or orange are now blue.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Cool.. I will put it in with the next package.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Do you guys like this header better for the email package?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shades333:
Prefer the one already packaged in last update. Like the blue background.

Love the extra blue

I am also trying Chris's el26 kernel.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Chris el26 repack feels quicker and is easier on battery.. shrug
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shades333:
Do we have to remove files from it for boot animations? I did not and it it seems to be working as it was.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
You don't have too.. but they are no longer needed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I knew I wasn't crazy about Chris's kernels. Strongsteve, I am finally getting settled in on my east coast swing. Will you PLEASE let me know when you package Chris's kernel with the blue "S" boot animation back together with latest EL29. I am done testing. I will download that beast as soon as you post it and it won't leave my phone! TIA EDIT..I do have that flashable zip of boot ani for stock kernels though...hmmmm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
John.. my latest has those files in it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Thanks strongsteve! It will be on my phone in 15 minutes!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Damn, this Fios is a whole new ball game for me. Just started download. Will be done in less than 3 min! Can't wait to be back home on my favorite ROM
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shades333:
SS were those numbers above the keypad able to be blued out? Kinda wonder what they would look like. Might be overkill but curios.

I also deleted those files. If they don't need to be there they are gone. Lol.

Everyone I show my phone to is jealous of this rom, especcially my girlfriend who is still stuck on the OG EVO.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Is it Chris's kernel with Rogue recovery?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shades333:
John the one I just flashed was CWM recovery. It was between that and ACS version that I could find.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mpcdata:
John go to chris site and get the el26 repack. I personally use the ACS version because the advanced restore from internal works in it and it has a good pre rom wipe in it. O yea forgot its also alll blue . :P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I grabbed both. I go with the ACS Recovery version myself because after you select "install zip from SD" you have the pre-theme wipe option that wipes cache and dalvik in one click and the PRE-ROM install wipe option that wipes all 3 with one "yes." Plus, I was the tester for the original version on the OG Epic. Thanks for pointing me to the right spot. I don't know how I didn't have those 2 (ACS and CWM versions)....oh new SD card...derp! Lol Thanks guys. sfhub's stickied thread has everything! Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shades333:
I prefer Rogue recovery myself however considering our options on Chris's EL26 I've switched to ACS for the time being per your advice. Kernel is snappy, I'm hoping battery life improves as well.

Thanks for the info!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
I had forgotten about those options in ACS recovery. I ran it on Calkulin's 2.7 for awhile and that's when my battery life was fantastic. Just looked on my SD card and its still there. Going to flash it as soon as I finish demolishing a big ass steak.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I am doing a LOT of work on contacts.apk tonight
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Carbajal3009:
damn! im digging that shade of blue strongsteve :D keep up the great work..and thanks for the great time and effort you give us. so far ive had the best battery life ever on this ROM. Is this due to the power of Odex?? :eek:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I have had my best battery life on strongsteve's roms as well....also tops in speed and stability. That's probably one of the reasons that zip got made to odex deodexed ROMs with a flash but they still won't have strongsteve's secret sauce!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
Id like that zip =D and is it universal?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I tried it on several ROMs. It absolutely works. I tried it in Calkulin's with Minimal Black theme with gtg's toggles, no lockscreen mod and it worked perfect. There's an odex file for almost every apk in system/app. HOWEVER, I also tried it on Calkulin's ROM with a theme that had the AIO mod and it made the status bar disappear altogether. I just spent hours testing different setups and its possible the aio status bar thing was a fluke but the dev made it look like strongsteve's work is easy which it is absolutely NOT! He and his ROM are probably what brought about the zip. Strongsteve's ROM is still my #1 I just now have my odexed black backup setup like I did on my OG Epic. Strongsteve's commitment to codex is finally starting to show that the real power, speed, and stability are in odexed ROMs. Others may be able to odex but don't forget, strongsteve also adds the secret sauce that puts his ROM over the top...don't forget he optimizes pngs and adds other goodies that make this ROM what it is!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Contacts.apk

Push to system/app

http://db.tt/tRDuqjWR
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
I am only going to say three things about that automated script..

1. If it devalues my rom.. so be it. Feel free to move back to the themes section.

2. That script is 1000% puppet13th@xda and nobody else

3. The real challenge comes in assimilating framework jars and framework mods into an odexed rom.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] shades333:
Pushed Contacts, looks cool thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Chris41g EL26 is proving to be superior in performance and battery life.

This weekend, I plan to put out one final update with this kernel and some final aesthetic changes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] towncop1978:
hey strongsteve, I would like to try your rom but i have a quick question. I am on stock rooted ek02. Do I have to change to el29 or can I flash your rom over my existing rom?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
You can just flash. I would wipe everything first tho. You can try to leave data intact but your milage may vary.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mpcdata:
Steve is that with cwm or acs recovery and why do you say final your a perfectionist:D It will never be final;) LOL
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] towncop1978:
strongsteve, got to say this rom rocks.. with only twenty minutes of it I really like it a lot.. Continue the good work.. I never do this but I will donate a few bucks to show how much i appreciate your work..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Thank you very much! Very much appreciated!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
You may be right. I am really digging into contacts some more and a few other things to get some images better..

However, with that automated script being posted.. it is going to make it easy for any fool who doesn't know his way around an adb shell to odex roms.. so I am feeling a bit antiquated right now. I think a lot of people staying around for a speedy odexed feel will be moving on. Those same people wont have a clue how to odex apps or assimilate jars. I am glad that it is finally getting with folks that deodexed roms are inefficient, juryrigged, inferior, and unnessary.. anyways.. soap box out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
I wouldn't feel that way Steve. Your rom is kickass and always will be. The script just goes to show you that you were right all along with odexed being better. Now people want to follow your footsteps. Thanks for the fast and awesome updates that u do. I love blue and I love this rom. I always flash a new rom to try it out but I always come back. Have a good day bro! Stay strong!!!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
No way. Take it from someone who was known as "the tester", it may odex a ROM but the ROM doesn't feel the same as yours does. Yours is the only one I lose 1 or 2% battery while sleeping. Yours is the ONLY one that through 15 builds has never had a force close, freeze, or boot loop. This ROM has THE MOST personal attention put into it and its not close
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
+ 1000000

I'm not going anywhere else. Besides no one else will spend time theming like you, even if they did it would not have the awesome blues
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mavd5831:
Oh no worries i'm NEVER leaving this rom XD way too much love for Steve's rom. What i meant was would it be ok to use on other phones or is it just for the E4gT? I'd like to odex my family's phones (2 LG Esteem's and one LG Thrill). XD Trust me if Steve made roms for those phones they'd be sooo happy lol. XD

---------- Post added at 03:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:53 PM ----------

Double post just to say that this is the best rom i've ever used lol...and i've used a lot...just look at my join date, that's how long i've been flashing roms. Yours is the best Steve, don't let the script bring you down. =D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Since switching to chris standard cwm el26 repack, my battery is at 93 where it normally is about 80.. go figure.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] erik077:
Would you share this dialer and font ?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cardenas5810:
Yeah i have noticed my battery draining alott faster with this new el29. Will your new update have chris el26 cwm?? And when will the update be out?? I caint wait!!! O and trust me steve this rom is still the beastiest rom out there!!! So who cares they came out with a odex .apk!! no one spends as much time like you do on their rom. Thats why yours is the best!!hands down. And trust me i do everything with this rom. Including connecting 3 ps3 controllers to my phone via bluetooth and playing some good old nintendo 64 mario kart while connected to my hd tv via hdmi!!! And while i do all that. Your rom never freezes on me. Naaaaiceee!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Thanks man! It will definitely have this kernel and battery life will return.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
I got my hands on some apparently super secret ICS 4.0.4 leak to flash through Odin (FOR NS4G) and its odexed obviously and I plan on keeping that as well. I don't know if there's a connection somehow but I get better battery on odexed as well. I swear its not in my head....just like Chris's kernels..lol. Strongsteve's blue on this phone and ICS odexed on the Nexus...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nyflyguy:
Got my first LOS today. Flashed it last night with the new renegade kernel.

Edit: I didn't let it boot before flashing the kernel. I flashed the rom, flashed odexed go launcher, then flashed kernel. Should I have let it boot for the first time before flashing the kernel? Or does it even matter?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fordmanck:
Changing the kernel doesn't count.

Flashing order doesn't matter. By changing the kernel you're changing the ROM. I have flashed every ROM and had Los on all of them until this one.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Exactly. I had 3 random reboots on Renegade and I wasn't overclocked. Immediately back to pulled stock for me. If you want problem free, run exactly as OP instructs to
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] useport80:
is there anyway we can change the theme from the blue to just the normal stock colors? im kinda colorblind so blues are difficult for me to see. if there is something i can do, please let me know. if its something that you would have to do and too much work, then i dont worry about it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] joetrisman:
Was running this with renegade but los happened so came back to just strong steve
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tomyboombotz:
Please someone tell me were strongsteve ics themed rom is! Please
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nyflyguy:
To go back to stock kernel just reflash the rom over this, right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] joetrisman:
That is what I did and my quadrant score tells me it worked without booting into recovery again :-P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nyflyguy:
Did your recovery that came with the renegade kernel stick?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tweeker404:
Colored roaming icons! Thanks steve :) Always improving.

Here you go: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1328340
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fordmanck:
Maybe change the 3g icons from green and yellow to blues?

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Yes or you could flash the kernel that's listed in op. It's probably the latest LOS kernel from Chris
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] fordmanck:
It's the stock pulled kernel from Chris.

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Even better you can just flash the kernel and it will take way less time then refkashing the kernel as the rom zip does wipes also
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] itbmd:
Can you make a 3G toggle from the pull down, just like there is for 4G now? Maybe you can split the 4G button in half? Just wondering if it's possible. Thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Here's a nice little shortcut apk. It opens straight to camcorder rather than camera if anyone is interested...

http://db.tt/p1e0R1t9
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
I think its a little more involved than just reallocating icons within the space provided. At least that was the impression i got in order for JsChiSurf to port the notification widgets to the sense framework, right now it would appear something similar would need to take place. Personally i would love to be able to customize those widgets etc like that mod.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
is there any way to simply disable the lockscreen?

like for some reason my simple lockscreen has a pattern lock (i dont know why but ive flashed about 4 diff roms and it survives all wipes and flashes)

lockmod (like what comes in AIO) has several diff lockscreen options,but it also had a simple option to have no lockscreen at all,which is what i used

so again,is there any simple way to just disable the lockscreen on this rom?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
settings - location + security - change screen lock - none
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bsmoove386:
Battery Life

I know i know every phone differs with each rom. But I'm trying to find that good battery life Rom for heavy users. How does this phone fare for someone who has about a 4-5 hours display time?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
This is how contacts will look in the update
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DataHawg:
Good news, John. I'm on Chris's kernel as of this morning. I agree that fully charging and leaving Wi-Fi on to let the phone sync normally while sleeping is a pretty good indicator of battery use. I'll be doing it tonight.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AestenD:
Every time I leave my WiFi on, I get insane drain. As if the radio isn't going to sleep or something. I wonder if it's my router?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pjjohn73:
Wow, sweet
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Carbajal3009:
lol :D ya thats most likely true!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
It has to be. Make sure wifi sleep policy set to "Never" I wake up with 97 and occasionally 98% after 8 hours idle on strongsteve's ROM with Chris's kernels. I can break out the old SD and post pics if people don't believe me....lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Carbajal3009:
NICE! now i"ll get even GREATER battery life. :D thanks strongsteve. Nothing touches this ROM. :cool:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AestenD:
It is set to never. And come to think about it, I think it stays awake whenever wifi is on. I.E. a solid awake bar.....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mpcdata:
If I remeber right John you and I both had like 35 hrs of runtime and still was over 10~15% left.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
Have to get everything thus time
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire118:
What radio version is everyone running or the one that you feel performs the best far as signal and battery life
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] musclehead84:
I'm running el29.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Yup I had 30+ hours off charger, 5+ hours screen on time and still 5 or 6% battery
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] JohnCorleone:
Pretty much everyone is running the latest EL29 but some are using Chris41g's EL26 stock repack kernel instead of the Rogue EL29 stock repack
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 916homie:
Me also it's crazy
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] strongsteve:
No more fugly GREY background behind the search bar! I am on a friggin roll..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] RayTrue04:
I tried to just stay stock rooted but I must admit I'm feeling this rom and after reading thru some comments I can tell I'm going to love it. Plus I'm ready to overdose on my favorite color lol. So I'm on stock el29 rooted with a few mods running. Can I just flash this in recovery or do I need to wipe first?