yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[TouchPad Development] Leoisright:
Just got email from HP with tracking number. Its on its way back...
[TouchPad Development] isanrap:
Wow lot of activities :-) and great news there leo.
[TouchPad Development] lowetax:
@Leo -

that was like eating cream of tomato soup with a fork -

lot's of action, but you don't get very far !
[TouchPad Development] method2madness:
Spanks! I'll give it a try.
[TouchPad Development] A.VOID:
Anyone notice in boat browser ...

Screen graphics will go bad sometimes when you select copy on a page? Its when you press and hold
[TouchPad Development] L33t Masta:
Man I'm excited to see what these guys make now that they all have Touchpads.
[TouchPad Development] tbob18:
Spanks? :)

Good luck! It made a world of difference for me. It is probably closer to the iPad 2 now, will have to try it side by side later. :cool:
[TouchPad Development] Leoisright:
me too ;)

getting android on tmartins
[TouchPad Development] Joker Fuel:
I just reloaded 2.9.1 and realized the odex failed last time lol.

The boot ani I did is too long.

Time to make another one
[TouchPad Development] L33t Masta:
YOu know, I may not know Android dev, but let me know if there's anything I can do to help other than test. I would love to actually be of help rather than just commenting.
[TouchPad Development] zcrugby:
just tried out gta 3 on my touchpad :) runs amazing.

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question: i know we are not supposed to restore our apps from backup for this version but after we manually restore the apps can we restore the data from titanium pro without any issues? i really treasure my saved game data :)
[TouchPad Development] lowetax:
from what i've read, it seems to me, i think, perhaps it's so, that ...

it was just the batch tb restores that caused problems, not individual restores with data.

dumb question, but with gameloft games (i only use real racing 2),

is the data with the apk, or are the stats somewhere on the sd card,

in the 1.11 gb folder realracing2_na ?
[TouchPad Development] Leoisright:
it's in data/data

you will find a com.blah blah racing or something

you can copy that and replace after you flash a ROM. You just want to make sure you only back up data on games cause those won't cause issues when you restore more than likely
[TouchPad Development] zcrugby:
i did a complete restore of my tp tday to start everything from scratch and ive gotten 2.9.1 reinstalled but i dont have cwm recovery. if i boot to recovery in android it just reboots to my default choice and the android recovery isnt on the boot list. i have tried plceing the update cwm zip in cminstall an rerunning the command in the hp recovery mode thing and i would see the penguin come up and it lools like its installin it but it doesnt instll. help please
[TouchPad Development] L33t Masta:
Leo - do you ever use twitter? LOL you haven't posted in days!
[TouchPad Development] zcrugby:
got it fixed.. had to do this from the alpha 3.5 site... "Another "emergency" idea (for advanced folks only) is to boot ClockWorkMod Recovery *directly* from your computer via USB cable rather than from the TouchPad's internal storage. To try this, find an "update...zip" file that contains ClockWorkMod. Inside this zip file is a file called something like "uImage.ClockWorkMod". Extract/unzip that file to your computer, then use novacom (which you used with ACME installer) to "inject" ClockworkMod into your TouchPad."
[TouchPad Development] lowetax:
i was just over there and going to grab that info for you.

had you tried acmeinstaller a second time with cwm in cminstall folder ?

i could never understand why acmeinstaller read me

said CWM is optional ? perhaps, if you don't want recovery ???

TWRP 2 wasn't released at that point.
[TouchPad Development] zcrugby:
odd, i dont have these options on this screen. all i have is the drop down menu and i set it to cfq and there are no other options
[TouchPad Development] tbob18:
Are you using the latest version from the market? And which rom version? I am using 2.9 deodexed.
[TouchPad Development] twopint32oz:
Does anyone have experience with Tango on this rom? I used textFree+ phone number to register Tango, but the tablet wont unmute mic and freezes when video is on.

EDIT: nevermind. i knew that camera didnt work but thought video would work. does mic work though?
[TouchPad Development] djbenny1:
Here are a few screens of the battery life of my tp over a little more than a day. How is everyone else's compared to this? As you can see from the first picture something is keeping the tablet awake when screen is off but I don't know what. I did think it was kik messengbbut I uninsalled about 2/3 of the way through the period shown below but instilled stayed awake overnight.

PS my tp battery % often jumps up, you can see a few small spikes on graph, it hasn't been charged at all during this time period. When I started writing this the battery showed 5%, a few mind later 7%, then 8% then 9% lol.

Any advice?

Sent from my HP Touchpad
[TouchPad Development] davec1234:
I have the options but can't get 10000 to stick, goes back to 50000 even after clicking apply and a reboot.
[TouchPad Development] Leoisright:
I wonder at time of not using it, shut it off and plug it in. I always shut it down. What is the benefit to keeping it on for days on end.
[TouchPad Development] Leoisright:
Not really. Im in here a lot. Maybe one day but just find no need foe it.
[TouchPad Development] zcrugby:
newest version yes, and im on 2.9.1 odexed, might that be the problem?
[TouchPad Development] sigson:
Perhaps my TP is the only one that does this but if I shut down prior to plugging it in it boots right back up when I plug in....

I thought that was normal, or is it not?
[TouchPad Development] Bannerman:
I would say its normal as the same happens on webos and the same or me in both android or webs when placed the TP on th touchstone. Sounds like a hardware feature.
[TouchPad Development] Noobla_Khan:
That is normal for most Android devices.
[TouchPad Development] umrdyldo:
Same happens on iPhone and most devices.
[TouchPad Development] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Interesting, I have been able to shut down (plugged in first and to wall, not PC) and charge
[TouchPad Development] Noobla_Khan:
Yeah but if you are already shut down it will turn on when you plug in power, unless the batt is completely dead.
[TouchPad Development] lowetax:
admitted, i don't have a ton of apps installed and running in background,

but at night, i hit end all tasks in system panel, and when i hit menu to turn screen on in the morning, it's dropped maybe 3%.

when i'm done using it during the day, i hit the system panel widget end all apps,

and turn off display. no drainage at all.

for me ...

powering off from menu i get vibration and then black screen like it has shutdown.

if i then plug in, moboot menu shows up.

shutting down from moboot (plugged in) - it's powered off.

if i then unplug and plug back in, moboot menu shows up.

i do believe this is normal.

so - if you want it powered off when plugged in,

shutdown from moboot when it's plugged in.
[TouchPad Development] guho:
I still have memories of the fission rom on the Droid 2 Global. Here, devs collected lots of donations and soon afterwards, work stopped on the ROM. I hope that does not happen here.

I appreciate the work Leo and others have done and I am happily using 2.8 on my Touchpad. I am concerned about Leo stating he has no wifi issues in this forum. For me, it is easy to reproduce. Under WebOS, wifi works in all cases. Under xron, it only connects when I set the channel on my router to 1 (it chose 11 on its own before). If Leo could try this and reproduce this perhaps he would be more inclined to address it. I have not upgraded to 2.9 because it is clear from several posts that the wifi driver is still the same.
[TouchPad Development] zcrugby:
its also clear from several posts that it has been fixed. so why not try it yourself and see if it works or not? so why dont you keep your channel at 1 and update to 2.9.1?
[TouchPad Development] lowetax:
i do believe this is based on cm7 alpha 3.5 ...

have you read that thread ?

and others on xda about wifi on the touchpad ?

work arounds, changes, tweaks, different router to get wifi working are often the norm, but it's not unique to xron.

where did leo say xron has no wifi issues ?

and if he did, then perhaps add "with work arounds, changes, tweaks, etc. -

if required".

EDIT: i suggest you nan backup, clean (full wipe) & naked (no apps - no restores) install of 2.9.1,

and see about wifi - and what it might take to have it work for you.

that way you can see for yourself and you'll have more ammo to fire with.

yup, we all contributed to get 4 touchpads for some good devs

so they can walk away from leo's modded cm7 alpha 3.5 awesome rom.

i don't think so.
[TouchPad Development] guho:
I read the entire thread and know it has not yet been fixed. Keeping my channel at 1 is fine at home. But it ought to be fixed, so I can connect to access points I have no control over even if they are broadcasting on higher channel numbers..
[TouchPad Development] Krunk_Kracker:
You're very abrasive...

Anyhow, I have zero wifi issues and I connect all over the city. It is not something that can be reproduced if you're not having the issue. We can't just make something not work.
[TouchPad Development] lowetax:
but when most of us, using 2.9.1, can connect to access points that we have no control over, to me, that shows that the included driver does indeed work, no ?

so troubleshooting would say retry wifi connection,

and if no good, make a nan backup and then

do a clean and naked rom install to test.
[TouchPad Development] sigson:
Sorry couldn't resist.,
[TouchPad Development] isanrap:
Yup works well for me even in my university net. Had problem only once but when I disconnected and reconnected everything worked smooth.
[TouchPad Development] Neejay:
Yeah, regardless of fully wiping or not, I get random wifi disconnects (it'll be working and show connected, but nothing loads, then the wifi settings freeze on and off and I have to reboot to get wifi back. Guess it's the luck of the draw. Sucks though, because if this isn't really an issue recognized by any one developing on this, the problem won't be resolved. Guess I'll have to resort to waiting on CM9/ICS.

And I agree with the comment above...my home isn't the only place that I plan on using wifi, so while I can change channel and have it potentially working, I guess I'm stuck with only using it at home (stable at least).

EDIT: when I say it isn't recognized by anyone developing on this, I mean if they aren't having the problem, along with a lot of others.
[TouchPad Development] Krunk_Kracker:
My advice? acmeuninstall everything, and start over.
[TouchPad Development] Bacchus69:
I've had no wireless issues at all with any base CM or XRON build on access points home or away. At home all my routers are set to auto and whatever channel they happen to grab, my TP connects without issue.
[TouchPad Development] Leoisright:
Just so you understand

It is hard to dev for any from without a device. Last night around 10 we finally got tmartins device rooted. Then we stayed up another 3 hours working on ics kernel. Please don't voice your concerns publicly but thru the email in which you donated.

Most others understand this and support the decision to bring the other developers on board. These developers are well known for their contributions to many different devices.

If you have knowledge and know how of building from source, feel free to jump in and help. If not, enjoy the from already provided rom as a token of what to expect comming in the future.

None the less, it was made clear the beta test teams will test the future builds so if you are on that list you should have received an email already.

Thanks again to everyone supporting us. Btw, I spent 12 hours in front of the computer yesterday working on this. So my work pays me $300 for those hours and I worked harder on this than for them.

Edit...wifi issues.

For me its hard to replicate because I don't have any issues at all. My router is dual band and if fails on one it automatically connects to the other.

In previous builds I did have wifi fc issues but they have long disappeared. I will get the team on it to see if they are having issues in hope it can be resolved. One troubling thing is more reports are coming back with no issues than those with issues.

I can't diagnose open hotspots as many are different. Nor will I drive around looking for troubled hotspots. We need log at information and better troubleshooting than a comment saying it doesn't work. Method2madness can attest how much time I've put in helping the wifi issues. But seriously ics is far more important right now. Its a monster and we are trying to tame it.
[TouchPad Development] Neejay:
Good idea, actually. I'll try that this afternoon. Thanks.
[TouchPad Development] Noobla_Khan:
Man...how much did you pay for this "beta" software that "ought to be fixed"?

Oh wait...

Wifi is an issue in every android rom out there for the Touchpad...not just this one. Some people have problems some don't. Search the thread and exhaust the possibilities.
[TouchPad Development] Neejay:
Yeah, that's something I've gathered as well from chatting in #cyanogenmod-touchpad and searching the TP board.

And just so it's clear, I'm not in anyway complaining about XRON or any development that's been going on by Leo or anyone else related to this ROM.
[TouchPad Development] Krunk_Kracker:
Sometimes it's better to just start over from scratch.
[TouchPad Development] lay_forat:
Same here I'm feeling lucky :D
[TouchPad Development] vampirexhunter:
Trying to compile my own apps into the 2.9.1. Can't get Kindle to work, any ideas? It just runs the splash and closes.
[TouchPad Development] IronFly:
First of all, thanks to Leo and other developers about this rom and the future ICS.

i have the Wifi problem with my netgear and i found a "trick" or at least works on my enviroment.

tested on 2 netgears (both had the same issue):

DG834G V5

DGN2200

the first connection works perfectly (WPA2- channel 11), no problem at all; the problem is when i try to reconnect wifi after turning it OFF.

android always try to reconnect (remembering settings) to the WIFI, keeps searching and searching, tapping on settings pop ups "wait/close" window and sometimes can't even tap on everything....black screen for a while.

so the "trick" is to turn ON wifi with router WIFI OFF, wait for the initial android wifi search (your network will appear as not available but remembered) then turn ON the router WIFI, wait some seconds and tap on your remembered wifi.

on my enviroment this works everytime; BTW i know it's not fully automatic.

i hope i can test ICS soon. :D
[TouchPad Development] sanjsrik:
anyone have a mirror link. the original link at:

http://classictenderloin.classictomatoe.net/downloads/

craps out at ~80Mb. Any other mirrors would be greatly appreciated.
[TouchPad Development] lowetax:
which did you want downloaded ?

2.9.1 just downloaded for me ok

159,838 KB

imma at my pc using IE9
[TouchPad Development] Noobla_Khan:
Uploading 2.9.1 Odexed, will post a link when it's done.
[TouchPad Development] guho:
Sounds like you have the same symptoms as me. Mine is a Dlink 825, and it also was on channel 11. Please try changing both your Netgears to Channel 1 from Channel 11 and you won't have to turn wifi off at the router before turning on the Touchpad. It seems to be an issue with channel number not router brand. And to all dismissing the issue because they have no problem connecting anywhere, please use wifi analyzer to see what channel the access point uses. Most use 6. In fact, all my neighbors are battling it out on Channel 6, while I can cruise along at Channel 1 or 11.

I would even challenge those not experiencing the issue to set their access points to Channel 11 temporarily. Then, try to connect and disconnect a few times. Likely, you'll see that the Touchpad under xron fails to connect and wifi settings freeze up. As stated, with WebOS there are no problems in this area.
[TouchPad Development] Noobla_Khan:
Who is dismissing the issue? Android is not native to the Touchpad and because of this there are issues with the wifi(and other) drivers on all Android roms on the Touchpad. It just happens to be that some experience it and some don't.

WebOS is not alpha/beta software and was programmed for the Touchpad with proper drivers. Why don't you call HP and see if they will supply driver code then we can get this put to bed.
[TouchPad Development] j.a:
You cannot compare WebOS issues to Android issues since WebOS is the OS that the Touchpad was intended to run, not android. So it could possibly be a driver issue, but guess what??? That is what we have to live with when we are running BETA OSes on our hardware. If that is too much for you to fathom or comprehend then perhaps you should: a) contribute by creating drivers/patches to help it run better or b) move along.

I happen to have been one of the lucky ones that did not have any issues connecting at home, at wifi spots or even mobile hotspots. So like many I could not reproduce the wifi issue. Who knows when my TP comes back from HP it could end up being one with wifi issues. I do know that if that is the case, I will try everything suggested and posted in this long thread and not complain or demand but ask for additional help.

And yes I have donated and no I am not worried about anyone running off. Even if they did the current advancement of the rom make it well worth any donation sent.
[TouchPad Development] Noobla_Khan:
If you still are not able to get it try this link:

http://www.mediafire.com/?vl3fagrvqj8pw0a
[TouchPad Development] af250xxl:
Is this the exact same 2.9.1 that was uploaded a week ago?

will there be a deodex of 2.9.1?

Thanks! :)
[TouchPad Development] strikerage:
Leo,

Is the TB restore of apps a common issue? I used TB to restore all my games after wipe and flash from 2.8 and i had no issues at all.

....i think i got lucky. Havent had a single issue with my TP.

...ok, well i DO have the whole,'sound static at full volume when screen is off' issue. But i can live with that. :-)

If you flash it, they will.... ok, that just doesn't work.
[TouchPad Development] Noobla_Khan:
It is the original and unchanged. There was never a deodexed version released of 2.9.1.
[TouchPad Development] bluedogtouchpad:
I know that not everyone has the wifi problem anymore. I for one did have it really bad when I was running xron 2.8. Since upgrading from a complete restart all the way back to webos doctor and re downloading the rom 2.9 deodexed I have had ZERO problems no matter where I am connecting to wifi. (Home, Verizon, Comcast, McDonalds, ect..) The wifi issue might also have something to do with the rom download. How many check out the md5 on there downloads? Try to download the rom again and use the newly downloaded rom. If your first download was a little corrupt it will be corrupt every time you install it,This might be a factor as to why Leo does not get this problem also because he has the original rom in house. This is just my experience and if some of you have been just updating your roms over top or just clearing the cache then this might also be part of the problem with all the updates that we have had. As always this is just my opinion on this subject and I just can't see why it gets so beat to death. I have even tried to get it to fail and have not found anything that would reproduce the problem.
[TouchPad Development] lowetax:
i'm using cisco linksys WRT54G2 V1 (did i date myself ?)

and have been on channel 6 with no issues.

i accepted your challenge and switched to channel 11

and my wifi analyzer on my evo 3d says i'm the only one on the East Coast using Channel 11 - or anything !

after turning wifi on and off twice (using wifi toggle widget),

no wifi connection/internet issues at all -

with tp, tf, evo 3d, nc, og evo

sure do have a battle for signal here, eh !

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i'm not leo, but i think batch full restore from tb has caused problems.

did you batch restore just the games, or everything ?
[TouchPad Development] russg:
I want my turn to beat this horse

The issues with WIFI are related to the driver. At the moment no one expects it to be fixed even with ICS as no one has located a better driver yet. There has been some speculation that if/when HP lets out WebOS in opensource that we may get our hands on the WebOS driver but I'm not sure that will happen. The driver is almost certainly closed source by the chipset manufacturer and HP will not be able to release that.

If you have solid experiences with WIFI count yourself lucky. If not, then you can try some of the various voodoo methods posted. In my testing it boils down to what you happen to have for a WIFI router.

If anyone knows of a place to get a better driver for the Atheros AR6003X chipset then we might have a chance to get this fixed.

To be clear, everyone has this problem as everyone is using the same driver and it is the part that all the experts point to as the culprit for the issues seen.
[TouchPad Development] IronFly:
yep, i agree.

i just posted my experience. :)
[TouchPad Development] bluedogtouchpad:
This at the moment does not seem to be true. I have had xron 2.9 deodexed loaded now since it was uploaded (01012012) and I have NEVER had a wifi issue since. I did not do anything with the channels on my routers at all. I did have a lot of wifi issues before my last update. I did not change a thing but did do a complete clean and restore and also in my last post I forgot to put in that I made sure to do the setup wizard instead of selecting the default set up when I installed the new rom the last time. We did figure that the time being off could make a difference and this would be set up in the wizard. I have two different routers in my home and with the last rom had problems with the wifi on both of them but now with the new install I am good.