yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Play General] TLRtheory:
Apple's too full of themselves.

They aren't the originator of anything. They can't claim someone else stole from them because they have nothing under their belt that wasn't done before them.

Smartphones? Done before Apple did it.

Home computing? Done before Apple did it.

Digital media? Done before Apple did it.

Portable media players? Done before Apple did it.

Tablets? Done before Apple did it.

...only thing Apple deserves credit for is knowing how to pretty something up to be mainstreamed, professionally inflating figures to overbloat their successes, and knowing how to take advantage of masses of millions who don't research to learn anything. Without out-of-the-know and tech illiterate consumers, Apple would had fallen through long, LONG ago. Of course they want to kill Android; they're scared ****less... Android's claimed more marketshare per month for many, many consecutive month and single handed brought excellence to everything that iOS was mediocre at.

They can claim Android steals from iOS, but look at what iOS5 comes jam-packed with... tons of features that Android users have already had for ages.
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
If Steve Jobs is right, then mass scale theft is allegedly being commited. And there are two possible ways to confront it. Either the 200 million people who have bought Android devices are content with cooperating with mass scale theft... or it is not mass scale theft. While any sane person would agree to the second idea, that would make the Western economies collapse, as many product makers (Apple most prominently, but most market leaders would do the same) depend increasingly on patentable added-value.
[Xperia Play General] DeadlyDazza:
tldr........
[Xperia Play General] speedyink:
Android never felt like iOS, so I'm really not sure how it could be considered stolen..

Out of the gate Android's product had different intentions, to be a customizable, to be used on a wide range of hardware, and to be flexible.

Apple's iOS is not customizable, in fact it's set up the way a certain individual likes it, even if you don't like it like that. It's only used on specific hardware, and it's in no way flexible.

Steve Jobs patented the action of inertial scrolling, or scrolling that seemed more natural for touch. Great concept, not a great thing to patent, as it's really the only way it can feel natural to a human, and the idea of "I released it first so you're stealing" is entirely childish. Did Apple really expect Google to incorporate scroll bars instead?

This is the only thing I can really think of where Apple has any sort of ground, as I said before, Android has always felt like an entirely different concept. This whole "Android is a stolen product" thing just seems like a childish way to snuff out the biggest competitor.
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
It has worked with Samsung. The Galaxy Tab was basically wiped from important markets with its Germany ban.
[Xperia Play General] phantazizta:
Android never die
[Xperia Play General] mehdi.moha:
android will kill apple , symbian and f**en windows phone . i'm sure
[Xperia Play General] consegregate:
I like competition. It makes smartphones get better. When android has no real competitors I guarantee you there'll not be update.
[Xperia Play General] Rogue Leader:
This article (and many others) continually neglects the fact that Android (as a company) was founded in 2003, at the same time Apple was partnered with Motorola to put iTunes on the ROKR. Google was not involved with Android till 2005, and at that point there is no way they built a complete OS from Google's acquisition to the Nov 2007 release of Android. They had been working on this thing from the beginning, and I'm sure there were some external influences, but to say that it was stolen is downright wrong. Heck if that was true you could say Apple stole from Palm as iOS functions much the same as my old Palm Pilot did. And Apple has been taking design elements from Android (like notifications) that could be construed in the same way.

Steve Jobs I'm sorry that you are gone, you were an innovator in many things, and a marketing genius and I have tremendous respect for you as a business man. However you served up some great Kool Aid, and your overall megalomaniac attitude towards this just shows that you think you can bully anyone out of your "ideas" when in truth they weren't even yours.
[Xperia Play General] TheCraig:
I agree, Steve Jobs was pretty amazing but when something does not go his way (For example A product that is going to kick Apple's ass) then he will just start a lawsuite and cry over it. R.I.P Though.
[Xperia Play General] juxtapose519:
Steve Jobs made a fortune off of borrowed ideas. He was simply good at marketing ideas that were previously overlooked. The only truly innovative thing he ever "invented" was the Apple II, and that was largely thanks to Wozniak. He recognized good ideas when he saw them, but to say that he invented any of it is ridiculous.

He stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as he could, and before he even knew what he had, he patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now *pounds fists* he's selling it.
[Xperia Play General] iliketrains:
Too soon...
[Xperia Play General] thatsupnow:
pfft! Nothing is too soon I could see if you knew him personally ya but chances are pretty good you don't
[Xperia Play General] Dousan:
Unless he's using the Kevin Bacon thingy theory on Steve Jobs, then he might, lol :p
[Xperia Play General] thatsupnow:
Aahaha that's funny!
[Networking] infamouskid:
what we know so far:

Samsung Galaxy S II LTE™ smartphone

AWS for connectivity on the Rogers LTE network

Tri-band HSPA+/Quad-band EDGE for connectivity on the Rogers 4G HSPA+ network and international roaming

Device download speeds up to 75 Mbps*

Dual-core 1.5 GHz processor

4.5” WVGA Super AMOLED Plus touchscreen (480x800)

Android 2.3 operating system

1GB RAM; 16GB internal memory

8MP rear camera with flash, 2MP front facing camera

cpu : model armv7 proc (vfpv3, neon)

gpu : vendor qualcomm

renderer : adreno tm 220

Stock Firmware:

PDA : I727RUXKJ6

PHONE : I727RUXKJ6

CSC : I727RRWCKJ6

CAM FW VER : SDEH0D

PHONE FW VER : SDEH0D

ISP VER : FUJITSU M5MOLS

HW : REV_1.3

phone operates on the following bands on rogers network.

1700/2100 and 2500/2600 bands are being used.

bell is following suit since the 2500/2600 bands are shared with rogers in their joint Inushuk wimax venture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inukshuk_Wireless

they will continue to use these bands and will probobly dual band LTE once they get 700MHz spec after the auction if CRTC lets them bid for it.

1700/2100MHz

AWS (Sector 4 5 et 6 LTE)

UL (1710MHz - 1755MHz)

DL (2110MHz - 2155MHz)

2500/2600MHz

IMText (Sector 7 8 et 9 LTE )

UL (2500MHz - 2570MHz)

DL (2620MHz - 2690MHz)

yes i am the first.

read about it here.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/10/25/r...mber-of-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-lte-to-customers/
[Networking] AllGamer:
Can you confirm the RADIO bands?

which frequencies are market at the back of the box if any?
[Networking] infamouskid:
there is no stickers on box. i can check escreens. one second. upping more pics.
[Networking] AllGamer:
just trying to figure out which radio bands Rogers is using for their "AWS LTE"

and perhaps it might be compatible with the AWS carriers in Canada ;)
[Networking] infamouskid:
ten characters.
[Networking] AllGamer:
of the shaky hand pictures :p (or perhaps macro mode was not set in the camera) i made out it was model

SGH-727 or perhaps SGH-#727?
[Networking] infamouskid:
SGH-i727 on back sticker SGH-i727R in android OS about screen.

pictures were taken with a LG Optimus 3D
[Networking] AllGamer:
nice thanks! :D

trying to google up the specs of the phone
[Networking] AllGamer:
OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...FCC-looks-like-a-Galaxy-S-II-with-LTE_id21794
[Networking] infamouskid:
yeah but this model as well as telus variant are rumoured to only support AWS bands for roaming.

it's said these models will not support AWS as native home network options.

I'll unlock and test this sucker out when my buddy gets in. he's with wind.
[Networking] rnewton01:
rogers called me yesterday and asked if i wanted to do that...

i was 7th on the reserve list. I had to work.. they even offered to pick me up in cab to come to the store.
[Networking] AllGamer:
that would be great!

i'm pretty sure it should work once unlocked

just like the reversal on Tmo USA people buying it to unlock it and use it on AT&T
[Networking] infamouskid:
some interesting stuff playing around in the e screens..

there is an evdo mode option and prl screens.

i was not aware of this until now. i will keep playing around and see what else i can find.
[Networking] Spartoi:
SAMOLED HD screen?
[Networking] infamouskid:
how do i determine that?

it looks like the bell sgs 2 amoled screen are they the same?
[Networking] netnerd:
how about taking a pic of the phone box, it should listed what bands the phone support.

i love to get this phone if it works on att LTE network. wait, there' no att LTE in my area yet.
[Networking] infamouskid:
there is no sticker on the box.

the box is shiny cardboard piano black with some reflective stripes.

i remember there was a command that allowed me to select the bands manual in the galaxy s vibrant but i forgot the command to do it so i can check for you.

i'd love to do a video review for you guys.

if there is anyone that works in the industry and is a local in toronto who would like to review this unit on youtube i am more then happy to allow you to play with this phone for the viewers. pm me.
[Networking] AllGamer:
nope this is still the regular 800x480 screen SAMOLED+

not SAMOLED HD
[Networking] AllGamer:
more importantly can you get the unlock code?

so we can test the Wind / Mobilicity :D

so far everything is pointing out to be same phone as the SGH-T989 (Hercules)
[Networking] rnewton01:
how does the battery seem to be holding up while on LTE?
[Networking] AllGamer:
it should be using the 1850 mAh NFC battery

that gives a very decent battery life on a normal usage, according to most folks already using the variant it last aprox 14 hrs
[Networking] infamouskid:
been using it all day since 9am. still have 40%.

it was at 90% when i got it.
[Networking] AllGamer:
can you try running root explorer and search for nv_data.bin?

should be inside EFS folder
[Networking] Dark lord me:
The phone won't wonk on Wind because the HSPA bands are for the Big 3

Also the LTE bands are the ones that AT&T wants to use T-Mobile for their LTE
[Networking] infamouskid:
SOFTWARE VERSION SCREEN

PDA : I727RUXKJ6

PHONE : I727RUXKJ6

CSC : I727RRWCKJ6

build info : MON OCT 24 20:22:57 KST 2011

CAMERA FIRMWARE STANDARD SCREEN

CAM FW VER : SDEH0D

PHONE FW VER : SDEH0D

ISP VER : FUJITSU M5MOLS
[Networking] AllGamer:
it'll depend on which Radio chip Samsung used to power this beast

at least the one on Telus is a true 4x4 band

I've always been suspicious of the Rogers version, it's very possible that it uses a different Radio chip that doesn't support all quad 3G/4G bands 850/1700/1900/2100

that's for the update
[Networking] infamouskid:
did more looking around.

this thing is fully locked.

network lock

network subset lock

sp lock

cp lock

also...

HW : REV_1.3
[Networking] AllGamer:
something simple for you to try

go to Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Network Operators

and see the list of detected towers IDs or names

302490 would be wind towers
[Networking] infamouskid:
nope.

only ROGERS, BMC, TELUS
[Networking] AllGamer:
thanks that confirms it

the info from phone arena (http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...FCC-looks-like-a-Galaxy-S-II-with-LTE_id21794) are wrong :)
[Networking] Dark lord me:
Well that's because the 1700 is what Rogers and Bells LTE network is on and if someone didn't know better and looked at that they would go "oh that's t-mobiles bands." those are the frequencies T&T wants to use for their LTE but that is why they want to buy t-mobile\

PS All gamer i see you are getting the SIIX if you are buying off contract you should buy it in the States because it is about $100 less then the Telus version only difference is branding on the device otherwise they are the exact same except for bloatware
[Networking] Sidneymac:
Interesting that my 3g is way faster than that..But I guess LTE isn't everywhere as yet...
[Networking] AllGamer:
now that's fast, on the Nexus S i don't even get half that speed
[Networking] AllGamer:
BTW, did you get a chance to try your buddy's WIND SIM card in the phone yet? ;)

just pondering if that might trigger the other part of the phone :D

however chances are you'll get a pop up asking you to enter the network unlock code (SIM Unlock)
[Networking] infamouskid:
no i have not tried yet.

i am looking into rooting and unlocking this phone first.
[Networking] Sidneymac:
My download on my galaxy S is 5.63Mbps and 3.87Mbps for upload .. This is at my home in Scarborough. Bell network.
[Networking] infamouskid:
is that the fastest you can get on bell HSPA+?
[Networking] goodyear2:
Lucky you..!;)
[Networking] AllGamer:
same here on WIND for the download, but on the download side it's a bit less between 1 Mbps ~ 2 Mbps up
[Networking] ph00ny:
Processor?
[Networking] AllGamer:
It's the same as SGH-T989 Hercules, Dual Core Qualcomm 1.5Ghz, same spec, just different radio bands
[Networking] killster:
Mod Edit: Posting for sale items outside the MP is not permitted mate.

Feel free to add link on your signature if necessary.

Cheers,

M_T_M

Senior Moderator
[Networking] Sidneymac:
I haven't tested it anywhere else. But ill test it today downtown and see what happens.
[Networking] killster:
I sincerely apologize, i thought i was in the MP.

My bad fellas, hope i did not upset anyone.

best wishes

Killster :(
[Networking] rnewton01:
you will notice tho that this test is in kB/s.. not kb/s.... that would translate to about 16Mbps

---------- Post added at 09:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:59 PM ----------

actually.... the highest test:

2478KBps = 19.82 Mbps
[Networking] melvinvs:
Very nice
[Networking] sygeek:
Congratulations! You should've waited for the Galaxy Nexus though IMO.
[Networking] Sidneymac:
Okay I'm happy I made an error was going to freak if the service was that bad.

As for not waiting for the nexus G with the galaxy s two it won't be missing out on much. I'm sure the upgrade for it will come.
[Networking] AllGamer:
he's better off with the SGS2 than the GN
[Networking] netnerd:
I'm getting nexus prime on release day if there's a gsm version!

why I like it better than gs2?

1028x720 resolutions! that is like putting your

home desktop monitor in your pocket!

also the 4.65 screen! phone should be about the same size as gs2.

prime has no physical buttons, so it can use those space for screen size.
[Networking] AllGamer:
that's off topic

this thread is about SGS2 LTE

please stay in topic
[Networking] Mr.Kakarot:
agreed, now we need our own thread.... and someone please root and make a rom for this thing, I do not like all the rogers software and splash screens... while I am on fido.

Nice phone :)
[Networking] kinubic:
woah those speeds!#!@# ?! so any specs on ur phone? lol! dang didnt know the LTE was already out in canada as it was just released in Korea !! thanks for sharing!
[Networking] Mr.Kakarot:
Samsung Galaxy S II LTE™ smartphone

AWS for connectivity on the Rogers LTE network

Tri-band HSPA+/Quad-band EDGE for connectivity on the Rogers 4G HSPA+ network and international roaming

Device download speeds up to 75 Mbps*

Dual-core 1.5 GHz processor

4.5” WVGA Super AMOLED Plus touchscreen (480x800)

Android 2.3 operating system

1GB RAM; 16GB internal memory

8MP rear camera with flash, 2MP front facing camera
[Networking] ranphi:
@infamouskid - Congrats! Hope you like the phone. :)

That blue and white lockscreen wallpaper on yours looks pretty sweet. Any chance you'd be willing to share that with us? :D

Thanks, and enjoy the phone!
[Networking] kinubic:
thanks !~ ahh i actually meant what bands rogers runs through lol.
[Networking] infamouskid:
waited? lol this was FREE. rogers execs gave it to me.
[Networking] infamouskid:
thread title has been changed to reflect the phone model.

mods please create a new forum for this phone and thread so we can keep the discussions going on this device and not get it confused with other north american variants.
[Networking] infamouskid:
1700/2100MHz AWS is what they use now for LTE... rogers is expected to run dual band AWS using 1700/2100MHz AWS and 700 MHz after the 700 MHz spectrum auction in Canada is finished.
[Networking] Divine_Madcat:
Sadly, I do not have the power to make a new forum. For now, i will move this thread elsewhere, and suggest that an official request be made to support this particular model.
[Networking] ddover:
Infamous - I've gotta ask what you did to swing getting the phone for free because I'm asking myself the same question now to myself. I was #5 on the reservation list and received an email earlier this week with a tracking number for my package. The Rogers store called me this morning saying that it was ready to be picked up and that I am part of a very exclusive list of people to receive the phone and that they are giving me a full credit for the phone and waiving the activation fee. I initially thought that it had something to do with being on a corporate rate plan but the Rogers rep says this isn't the reason..

Can you let me know if they required you to renew your contract?

Whatever the reason I am picking up my free phone tomorrow!
[Networking] rnewton01:
I just left Rogers store and was told the same thing. But I couldn't get my phone because my reservation was under my girlfriends name. Gotta go back with her there. They said the first ten people on the reservation list gets it free. From what they did tell me, have to renew a 3 year.
[Networking] infamouskid:
Hey man to tell you the truth... i didn't do a single thing. they called me up asking if i was available and offered to pick me up and drop me off to take a few pics with this phone and to meet an exec.

i did not have to renew in fact i was told this did not renew my hup date. regardless i am very pleased with rogers and even more happy that they know how to take care of the loyal customers we are.

who cares you got a free phone.. don't question it and just enjoy the nice gesture from big red.

dunno what to say. i didn't have to renew. all i did was do a hardware exchange request which was a new LTE simcard and some form printed in salescentral.

i did not even get the LTE data plan at all initially. i got the plan added when i got home after contemplating for a while. once i got on LTE very very pleased. no reason to go back to hspa.
[Networking] rnewton01:
that's awesome... like i said, our account is in my girlfriend's name, so they wouldn't give me too much info because she wasn't there... we won't be able to get back into store together until saturday, so we will see how it goes.
[Networking] infamouskid:
GUYS PLEASE VOTE HERE SO WE CAN GET OUR OWN FORUM FOR THIS DEVICE.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=18828556#post18828556

just reply with this message.

+1 Samsung galaxy s 2 lte sgh-i727r

+1 Samsung galaxy s 2 hd lte
[Networking] rnewton01:
done.

10char
[Networking] cam1878:
Done.

Did we get a confirmation of what the manufacturer of the processor is?

I can't remember what the two speculated options were but I remember one being quite a bit better than the other.
[Networking] infamouskid:
nope dun wanna tinker with insides.
[Networking] sygeek:
you never mentioned it, did you?
[Networking] infamouskid:
yes i did.
[Networking] Mr.Kakarot:
not sure how accurate this is, but I ran Antutu

it says

cpu model armv7 proc (vfpv3, neon)

gpu vendor qualcomm

renderer adreno tm 220

I voted as well!
[Networking] infamouskid:
armv7, neon. is that right>?
[Networking] infamouskid:
hey kak. can you dump the phone modem and csc files of your phone.

i wanna start a another thread once we get our own forum so we can get some real organization unlike the old galaxy s forum.

this phone will be released on other carriers soon so these files will come in handy for testing.

also have you tried rooting on yours yet?

i know you played with the gs2 how different is this variant from your gs2?
[Networking] goonx:
So wait.. this doesn't work on the Wind/mobilicity network even if it's unlocked?
[Networking] infamouskid:
nope.

this phone has AWS LTE not AWS HSPA.

you want the TMO GS2 4G or the TELUS GS2X for wind and mobi support.
[Networking] sygeek:
..where exactly did you mention it?
[Networking] McLaren__F1:
I know i asked on RFD, but does anyone know if the "Samsung galaxy S 2 2000mah battery by samsung" work for this device

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1239719
[Networking] pjm77:
benchmarks

Hi mate, thanks for sharing all this info!

Is there any chance you could run any CPU&GPU benchmarks to give us an idea how are the 1.5GHz and Adreno 220 doing?

Thanks in advance
[Networking] infamouskid:
the big white receipt that says 0.00 in the first post was a dead giveaway.
[Networking] infamouskid:
phone operates on the following bands on rogers network.

1700/2100 and 2500/2600 bands are being used.

bell is following suit since the 2500/2600 bands are shared with rogers in their joint Inushuk wimax venture. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inukshuk_Wireless

they will continue to use these bands and will probobly dual band LTE once they get 700MHz spec after the auction if CRTC lets them bid for it.

AWS (Sector 4 5 et 6 LTE)

UL (1710 – 1755)

DL (2110-2155)

IMText (Sector 7 8 et 9 LTE )

UL (2500-2570)

DL (2620 – 2690)
[Networking] infamouskid:
yes all gs2 batteries are the same regardless of variant.

first page has been updated.
[Networking] rnewton01:
I'm getting around 3100's in quadrant.
[Networking] infamouskid:
nice. when did you get yours?
[Networking] rnewton01:
last night. loving the speed and form factor of it. i do seem to have this problem with my screen though....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1300133

---------- Post added at 11:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 AM ----------

i did get it for free, but it used my hardware upgrade to get it. not sure what i'm going to do if all these phones have this issue. I really noticed while watching netflix on the phone last night.
[Networking] infamouskid:
weird i dont have that issue on mine.
[Networking] rnewton01:
Ya. From reading the thread it seems it may be more of a gpu issue as opposed to a screen issue.