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[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Andy:
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your last post. Could you clarify.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] madphone:
he says that there is no difference in enabling the free tmobile navigon for other devices and enabling the free nokia drive for other devices. both are(were) free und locked to specific devices.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Andy:
I think your missing the point.

Navigon did not need any "enabling" - It worked fine, the issue with Navigon is that it was cracked/hacked to access the premium features only available to the app bought from the marketplace.

Nokia Drive was/is available on the marketplace for free. You or I can download this legitimately. However, Nokia has added protection to limit the use to Nokia's only. Removing this makes it warez.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] dxdy:
new Nokia Drive v1.1.0.1501 (v1.4) is 50% offline navigation now.... you can start ND offline but for destination you must turned on

if you asked me where i get it, with Nokia from MP :D
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] eldenst:
We had to patch navigon t mobile too it was locked to the carrier. The original xap from the marketplace didn't work with other carriers.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Andy:
Why do you think it was removed as warez?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] dragonide:
Do you a Nokia Lumia ?

You mean you got it in the Market Place ?

You didn't deploy the xap ?

You enabled the Nokia MarketPlace on your non-nokia device and you installed the new nokia drive?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] jayzeroeee:
What percent offline was it before the update?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] dxdy:
100% :D you cant started in not internet on ;)
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] jhoff80:
Anyone have the AppID or XAP for the ESPN Hub app? I want to try it and see if it's better than the crappy ScoreCenter app.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] lovenokia:
scorecenter is not crappy at all
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Nokser:
Source Code Pack

Small Source Code Pack for Nokia WP7

package in attach.

Have Fun!

Nokser
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] jdbastardy:
How Nokia Drive recognizes the device is not much. Can be easly avoided but that is modifying code...
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] jcsy:
but modifying code is considered, cracking

there is a reason why they just put in on the marketplace
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] jdbastardy:
What does the second sentence mean?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] jcsy:
means they were pretty confident it wont run on anything other than Nokia (since it would check)

and they put in a Copyright clause (to prevent cracking/hacking?)

and they put in a protection layer (some sort of license check or something ^^)

:)
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] alphaacres:
Nokia Drive 1.3 v1.0.0.1101
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] huismeester:
Nokia have his one marketplace
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] dxdy:
HEY GUYS!!! did you read rules??? is forbidden to post warez here!
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Andy:
Is it warez? Or is it just the same xap you or I get from the Marketplace.

There is no need to make smoke, if there is no fire.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] dxdy:
yes but this is from chinese site ;) and patched
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] huismeester:
Is this smoke?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Aaron McCarthy:
No one can, the ap isn't released yet its just a place holder. Once the ap is released Im sure it'll work fine.

I'm more interested in Nokia Drive myself :P
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Floods7:
When i downloaded the xap of Nokia Maps from the first post on this thread I cant load it. Im using the app deployment tool and when I go to deploy it, it says, "Error - Installation of the application failed. XAP package signature is not valid or the WP manifest file is invalid. Re-sign with valid signature and fix the manifest file."

Im sure im doing something simple wrong
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] eldenst:
At the moment there is just a demo. It´s not the real app

this will come "within the next couple of weeks".

source:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/what-makes-nokia-windows-phone-devices-unique/6826
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Ludacris:
Well actually there is an update to an application called Nokia Maps so I guess there already is more functionality. As they have showed of other apps aswell I am sure they are in the market already either, its just not really easy to find them
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] :
Deploy with Phone7Deployer and tick "Replace the signature of the assemblies" and "Remove the DRM description file":

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=908293
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] bobzero:
isn't this just the placeholder app for maps anyway?

can somone upload the xap from the updated nokia maps that is now showing up.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Ludacris:
Nokia and Microsoft confirmed that Nokia Maps will be available on all Phone 7 Devices. Tough, Maps does only include online Navigation but not offline Navigation - that will be covered by Nokia Drive which is Nokia exclusive!
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] stryker09:
I'm pretty sure someone will be able to extract the apps from the phones like they did with the other OEM apps. Just a matter of time imo.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Ludacris:
Yeah of course, but I like the fact that they are making the Nokia Maps available for all Devices (afaik also the iOS Devices)
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] luckydog98:
I just read from WMPoweruser.com that the Nokia Drive has been pirated. Would anyone know where to get the .xap?

MOD EDIT : ASK FOR WAREZ AND YOU GET AN INFRACTION, CAPICHE?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] jessenic:
The picture on wmpu has http://www.wpxap.com watermark, but I don't speak chinese so can't help any further.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] voluptuary:
Gotta give it to those chinese and all they have been able to do on the WP7 hacking front.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] eldenst:
Nokia drive cant be used offline

Nokia drive cant be used offline!!!!! :eek:

source: http://mobile360.de/nokia-drive-nicht-offline-nutzbar-39004.html

Its not the thing we all hoped!!

:mad::mad::mad:
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] derausgewanderte:
freely translated
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] mmian:
anyone know where to get the nokia drive xap?

MOD EDIT : ASK FOR WAREZ AND YOU GET AN INFRACTION, CAPICHE?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Aaron McCarthy:
agreed... must get immediately! :P This cant be classified as warez right because its not being SOLD just being bundled in with a specific phone like Navigon first was over in Germany or where ever. One navigon released the ap to the marketplace and had a fee THEN the hacked version was warez.

this has to be free and clear to post.. God I hope!
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] :
What makes you think that taking Nokia's exclusive software and putting it on your phone is in any way legal?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] mmian:
you could say the same thing about navigon...
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] henry084:
Seemed the map is not yet available now and the program cannot be updated.

Moreover the link in 1st post cannot be deployed.......:confused:
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] AnyMal:
Your "logic" blows chunks. Nokia Drive was developed by Nokia for Nokia devices, and it's far from "free"; you get it by purchasing a Nokia phone. Sideloading it to any other device is warez, plain and simple, and we have a very clear and strict policy on these forums regarding piracy.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Aaron McCarthy:
my understanding is a warez was a "paid" app, and that is why the Navigon thread was around for a year before they took it down. They explained in the thread it was being locked and removed because Navigon was finally put up for sale in the marketplace. Now, you can go ahead and argue that yes you are paying for the Nokia app by purchasing the phone but I don't believe XDA would consider posting the Nokia Drive a warez (just my opinion from what Ive seen since Ive been here for years and years).... any more then they consider any app pulled from other phones warez. If we can freely install LG and HTC software from this site on a Samsung phone and samsung and LG software on an HTC phone etc etc how is this any different? These programs are made JUST for that specific handsets right?

Regardless, we can talk about it till we're blue in the face and not accomplish anything. A moderator will come in eventually and clear up any confusion and if/when the app is posted if its a ware then then the post will be removed. Till then I think we have to sit patiently and wait and see what happens.

Edit: Navigon was removed not just because it was finally released into the marketplace as a paid app BUT because the free version was hacked to have the "premium" features in it. So one can assume that if the version of Nokia Drive is posted and not altered then... well... :P

I've contacted andyharney a moderator to ask for clarification on the topic. So we should know soon.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Andy:
Gents, If Nokia Drive is EXCLUSIVE to Nokia Handsets to install this app on anything other than a Nokia would render it Warez.

Any further talk of Warez, where or how to get it will earn you an Infraction.

No if's no but's.

Feel free to discuss Nokia Apps, that is not a problem. Warez is.​
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] dxdy:
WRC Live is available for free on Market for only Nokia phones

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/47980bca-4378-4563-850a-fab02ce31013
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] bobzero:
What is the user agent string used by nokia phones to access the marketplace?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Marvin_S:
nokia
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] bobzero:
@marvin_s

Apps such as maps (which do exist in the market) don't show up with that string though.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] andw93:
I dont know if it's warez,but can i download Nokia maps with 3mktplace?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] dxdy:
you cant.... for now only for Lumia devices... be patient for release for other phones....
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] andw93:
i'll wait.thanks ;)
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Marvin_S:
maybe because those are preinstalled on nokia devices and hidden in the marketplace?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] lookus:
just a small hint.. there's a zune link for the nokia maps beta, maybe that could be of help to some of you ;-)

zune://navigate?phoneAppID=c0109837-574e-469b-a08b-dca621bde3ca
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] sensboston:
Marvin, it's not an "user agent" but store name :)

P.S. BTW, where is Nokia Maps? ;)
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] sensboston:
Unfortunately there is no xap link in the xml response, just a description and screenshots...
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] lookus:
the way I used to obtain the xap might not be in line with XDA's rules, so I will not post that here.. but it can be done, and all I needed to know was that url..
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] bobzero:
ah i figured it out, apparently capitalization matters:

zune://navigate/?appID=c0109837-574e-469b-a08b-dca621bde3ca

Nokia_Maps_v0.8.0.0.xap

version 0.8.43.73
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] andw93:
me too!it's easy!;)
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Aaron McCarthy:
Just post the xap... Its a free app that is to be released to all phones :P
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] bobzero:
Nokia_Maps_v0.8.0.0.xap

http://www.multiupload.com/DUG195PME3

help out nokia and join the feedback program when it asks you the first time it starts up.

cheers

EDIT: NEW VERSION

Nokia_Maps_v1.0.0.0.xap

http://www.multiupload.com/0RP7KC3OS3
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] TheBo$$:
I need an marketplace link for the Nokia Drive App can anybody help??
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Aaron McCarthy:
Bobzero made it on wmpoweruser

Nokia Maps XAP leaked–install it now on your unlocked device
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] sensboston:
It's on-line navigation, boo! :(
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] henry084:
Well, type in "大阪"(おおさか,Osaka in Kanji) will give out the Resturants in China:eek:........and all the locations in Japan are in English syllables, the map seems have to be updated anyway, no matter the names and the contents.

As I am now in Karlsruhe, I have also tried to look up the area around and I have found the tram lines in city centre are not available.......yet in EU.:(
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] boz:
Nokia Music XAP now available!

I have the Nokia Music app up and running on my HTC Trophy, and also made a video of it too.

Find the XAP download and video on smartphonegurus.com here :)

Please feel free to link through to our site. Cheers Boz.

Edit: Link now fixed to go straight to post and download without having to sign up.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Keefo:
sweet!

Now i just need to get my hands on Nokia drive lmao :-p
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Tiemen_S:
Crossing the line with Nokia Music

I think the line is crossed here bro. Apps like Nokia Music use a service provided by Nokia, for Nokia users. I already questioned it's sustainability if all Nokia Lumia users would go using this, because there are no ads between the mix radio songs. So basicly, all the money Nokia makes is by people buying THEIR phones. If you make such a thing available to the public for free without their permission, Nokia doesn't get their money at all. Nokia developed a service and they are perfectly allowed to only offer that to their own customers.

Now Nokia just makes a loss on all those people that keep using their service without even having bought a Nokia phone.

I hope they soon implement some IMEI/brand check on their servers, because this is just wrong.

Maps will be available free soon anyway, but stay away from Music (and Drive!), because that's stealing! They put lots of money into this, don't use a service you don't deserve.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Segnale007:
Nokia deserves to die...
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] iconata:
dude.. the line was crossed a loooooooooooong looooooooooong time ago.. it was crossed when WP7 got ported to HD2.. now that's a serious line crossing.. but having and app like nokia maps/music/drive on any other wp device is harmless.. it's like having htc hub on a onmia 7 or samsung hub on optimus 7.. and besides it's not wrong because the apps are

FREE

and btw maybe it's just me but.. do you work for nokia? because if you don't you should really consider it... and why do you care if nokia loses money? it's not like it's your company or daddy's company... is it? believe me nokia makes enough money.. IMEI/Brand check? with a simple registry trick you can make your phone any supported brand you like.. back in the days my HD2 used to be a Sony Ericsson HD2, so that it may run timescape.. and now it isn't different..
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] andw93:
Streaming work?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Tiemen_S:
No. It's not just a simple app you transplant in the case of Nokia Music. If you pirate an app it's just a one time cost they're missing. I won't say I don't download any pirated stuff, but I don't download an app that will always cost a company money every time I use it.

Nokia can't spread all this music without paying the artists a thing (leave alone the bandwith and server maintainance). So you port an app and have Nokia pay for it's usage.

As far as complete OS ports, that's a far more little usergroup that actually does it. It's not like all HD2's will run WP7 from that moment on. That's fun because it's great to show off technical knowledge of these devices like the HD2. Besides that it always will have some bugs and won't provide the full experience as it was meant (so original>ported).

I know pirated apps always will be available somewhere, but in this case, the usage isn't free for the guys providing you that service you had no right using of.

In the case of Music they probably will be able to shut non-Nokia's off using IMEI/similar numbers. I know you can reghack, but then your HTC hub will fail, because if I'm not mistaken that one will check for it too.

Drive only makes me wonder: why think extracting Drive is OK and leave Navigon (for example)?

Real 'developers'/people who like to fiddle around will probably be able to use those apps in any case, but I think it's wrong to spread such a service you don't own for free.

I believe my case is made as far as I can make it go, I'll leave it at that.

Tiemen.

P.S. I don't work at Nokia, I say what's on my mind, kinda the thing you do on forums.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Andy:
After review, these apps are fine.

Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Thread Open
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Aaron McCarthy:
What's the big issue with posting Nokia Music. They announced it would be available for all windows phones.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] eldenst:
Updated first post!

Please pm if there is something you miss.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Hagenlund:
So where's that Nokia Drive XAP?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] :
Sorry, but what kind of "review" did you conduct?

Did you email Nokia and ask if it's okay if you distributed Nokia-exclusive apps to all devices at no cost? If not, what makes you think this is in any way morally or legally correct?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] madphone:
If everbody thought that way, xda wouldn't exist anymore. In almost every Android ROM you find manufacturer apps which where only ment for other devices. And there are many apps Like touchwiz 4 which is samsungs launcher xda developers made available for most android phones. But in android section i have never seen anyone worrying about samsungs future or if it's ok to use things on other devices.

What's wrong with you here? XDA was always makeing thinks available on other devices, which wasn't intended by manufacturers.

I think the main reoson why people are getting crazy here is because of the articles are always writing about a pirated app! Why are they? Normally it's called "ported app".
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Aaron McCarthy:
Ummm he's a moderator. If you read back you'd see he had to step in and find out what the licensing terms were for theses apps before xaps could be posted.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] madphone:
so will it be allowed to post nokia drive? Is it really out there or was it a faked news?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Andy:
Just to clarify, I entered in discussion with a few senior moderators about this. They, like me agreed that this should be allowed.

IF Nokia have a problem with this then XDA will happily remove these threads/posts & apps. Thats a big IF.

So until then, enjoy the apps or contact Nokia.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] snapz54:
I second the above sentiment, Is it really out there or was it a faked news?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] reeg420:
I fully agree. I actually had posted a long ass post on my position regarding the whole is nokia drive warez discussion that was started in this thread and moved but the xda wp7 app likes to not post and just go back to the app... Really annoying and to tell you the truth makes me wanna throw my phone at the wall. Escpecially on the post about this topic. Took me like 20 minutes to word everything correct as to not get in trouble with xda and not cause crazy discussion.

Heres the shorter version.

I thought that you pulling the xap for nokia drive was right on point....

Heres my reasoning..

Not that its warez per sa. Im gonna use HTC Hub in my example because I own a hd7 and know my usual uses for it... I know HTC doesnt market the htc hub. Really doesnt have to, it is what it is and thats all. Its just a weather app with links to htc apps within. HTC has always added there own apps to windows devices since I can remember, even on my mogul I was running the htc dialer.. haha remember that. Thats just how htc is.

Now nokia with this exclusive nokia drive coming on their wp7 devices is not only a great selling point for nokia phones but windows phone in general. I would think Nokia would have something to say about people not buying nokia devices but still able to use nokia drive.

Even though both are the same type of app. They come pre-packed with the official phone or are only available to download from the marketplace with a specific device. Obviously different hacks can be used but Im talking about the average joe schmo with a phone.

Now the real question was if nokia drive is considered warez would the official roms that contained the xap be banned from xda as well? If thats how it is bundled?

That doesnt sound as good as the first post I wrote out.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] mmian:
i wonder where the xap for nokia drive is...if it actually got leaked, shouldn't it be around the internetz somewhere??
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Aaron McCarthy:
Its not leaked yet. The people that got it working on the non Nokia phone did so via another method I believe other then a simple cap install. It'll come.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] stryker09:
Patience. It'll be here soon enough.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] boz:
Upated regions for Nokia Music XAP

I've updated the main post in the Nokia Music XAP thread to include the UK, USA, Germany, France and Italy region variations. Find it here :)
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] TheBo$$:
NOKIA MAPS v.1.0

here are the new version of the new NOKIA MAPS v.1.0.0.0

DOWNLOAD
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Budniu:
Can anybody upload that to other serwer ?

THX

Edit:

Ok now it's ok.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] dk_iceman:
sorry to ask... but i've looked every where but can't seem to find anything about it..

I found some program in a tread that i thougt would install the XAP files on my HTC RADAR.. but dosent work ??

what do i do to install the XAP file on my HTC Radar ??

please help
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] reeg420:
Is your phone developer or chevron unlocked?
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] dk_iceman:
No not yet, because can't find a guide or if its possible for htc radar ?

Sent from my Radar C110e using Board Express
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] snifirst:
Thanks ! :D
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] Aaron McCarthy:
Wrong thread to discuss this in. You want to do a search in the general wp7 or development and hacking forum for wp7.

Long story short though. You either have to developer unlock your phone (which runs $100.00 or something like that) or pay $9.00 and use the official chevron wp7 unlocker which is discussed in those subforums or just search chevron wp7 in Bing or google... Or whatever :P

Lets keep this thread ontopic :)
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] kadajawi:
Navigon unfortunately doesn't offer maps for the country I currently stay in, so it is pretty much useless (strange, as Navigon belongs to Garmin, and guess what... Garmin has the maps!). Ideally Microsoft would pay Nokia for the right to put Drive on all WP7 devices... after all that would increase the WP7 market share, resulting in more apps for WP7 and thus even more interest in WP7, from which Nokia would profit too. Nokia could also offer the software in a paid version for non Nokia phones.

Until then it's hard to say. I can understand that Nokia wants to sell WP7 phones by only offering Drive on them, but my desire to use Drive on my Optimus 7 is pretty big too, and to be honest one of the reasons why I bought a WP7 phone was that I expected the Nokia solution to come there, regardless of phone.
[Windows Phone 7 Software Development] lil_dipo@yahoo.com:
espn sports hub

To any one using a nokia wp7 device or anyone who knows, is the espn sports hub thats a nokia exclusive on any of the lumia devices, and if it is it would be nice of we could get that xap :D