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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] costisanu:
another fan

I'am also a big fan of N9. But the lack of some really important apps, and some useful features in 3rd apps (such as Skype - file sharing & video calling), also the non-useful front camera make me wait until some new updates will appear. I follow all specific forums and blogs to see when a new update will come up to light.

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by the way, today the first Thizen images has been leaked, check the news on GSM Arena.

1. it doesn't look to have the swipe features of MeeGo

2. I wonder if this one will be possible to port on N9
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awerellwv:
i've watched the demo on youtube, and looks impressive, now searching everywhere to get it somewhere and find out if it really works as described...

man this would be the application heaven...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yesh:
I have a SGS2, but couldn't resist not trying the N9. Got it yesterday for a very good price so went for it, and I have to say I love it.

Lack of some mainstream apps like whatsapp is a pain, but so far the feel of the OS hasn't really made me miss whatsapp and fring.

I planned to sell it after a week. Just wanted to test for a week, but I think that's not gonna happen anymore.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nguyenhonganh:
I think N9 with Meego is better
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yangorang:
Heh....if I ever hear of anyone working on porting ICS to the N9 then I'll go and buy it right now....ICS and the N9 would be a perfect match!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gplock:
^ I would too.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alize:
I would trade in my White SGS2 tomorrow if Android came to the N9, especially after seeing the white N9.

Best looking phone out there no doubt, shame about the OS. Why Nokia? Why?!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmisep:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/9/2786619/nokia-n9-ice-cream-sandwich-teaser
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gplock:
^ NICE!!!!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] awerellwv:
ICS on the N9 could be really amazing, specially if you can do dual boot on the device...

but still i think the best way is to let Android Apps run on Meego OS, because the structure of meego looks impressive solid. So far after 2 months use (got it on christmas), i had never a system crash. i just got one app stuck (the drive app).

waiting for alien dalvik software to be available.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alize:
This is extremely exciting news! Once this has been released, I may have to port MIUI over to it, been meaning to get into ROM development for a long time but just lack the time!

I'll be selling my Desire HD and SGSII for this lol cannot wait! Despite the rather lackluster hardware in the N9, it is just so damn nice, especially in white!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bnwg:
Very encouraging news!!

I really hope the genius devs can make the android apps running on MeeGO like Allien Dalvik or ACL or stuff like that as next step or ultimate goal. N9 is beautiful device (especially the white version) and MeeGO OS is stunning (the multi-tasking ability is excellent)!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gplock:
Man if they get this on the E7 I would try a backflip
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] methodz:
Alpha release for ICS coming this week
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Amur:
I hope Samsung will copy n9 design :p

because n9 just too expensive for my pocket :D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shino82:
if they really get to work ics on the n9, i will definitely buy it!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] innomi:
alpha state working.

Hey.

My gf has a N9.

she is also a member of a devforum site thingy.

So she recieves forum updates about the devs which are working on android working on the nokia N9.

as i just readed about 1 hour ago. he updated his forum with the alpha realease of ICS working on the N9.

ofcourse since its a alpha state not everything is working.

Its playable enough though.

But certainly not usable enough for a MAIN yet...

Im gonna test this on my GFs N9 real soon when i have the time.

When i tested it i will edit my msg if its working.

Ofcourse you can try it for yourselfe aswell..

The program he uses is NITDROID for the dualboot.

just google and you will find his forum (dont have link atm since GF is not here..)

peace..
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] methodz:
Pretty snappy for single core 1Ghz!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ponaehOrFN8&feature=youtu.be
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iHypnos:
So I ended up buying an N9 in January to play around with for a few weeks. I really liked the Meego OS but the lack of apps became impossibly annoying.

Now I see an actual ICS alpha release. Dammit. Dammit. Dammit. Back to ebay I go.

I'm not sure what to expect development-wise. For example the N900 nitdroid project was always far from impressive and seemed to be in a state of development purgatory.

Imperfect/glitchy/laggy ICS is the reason I still don't run ICS on my HD2. So can we expect future releases?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] !n0x:
And here are videos concerning your worry about lag issues

[YOUTUBE]MOSdKi97fi8[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]KQajbXL5f8s[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]rOZtqWEoaiA[/YOUTUBE]

I'm guessing that if it is stable enough, I hope some devs will port MIUI or other ICS based ROM in it :P Plus, I think then that OCing to at least 1.2GHz will be good :) but then, I'm getting ahead. Just wishful thinking. :)

edit: I'm not quite sure if you were meaning about the N9 or the HD2, but those are the videos, anyway
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iHypnos:
Talking about both really.

Having games run full speed is actually a secondary priority, My main concern is just 2D acceleration going through menus etc since that is what we mostly do on a smartphone.

That said I'm about to pull the trigger on another N9 to try this out.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
Good luck with that happening....

Despite numerous attempts XDA's been somewhat indifferent/hostile(?) to a N900/Maemo sub-forum for

years

.

Same pattern seems to be occurring for N9/N950/Maemo6(aka MeeGo-Harmattan).

The L800 was slotted right in without any user input many months ago...

In the sub-forum voting thread, N9/900's having to fight it out with devices mass produced on a far larger scale.

No chance..... :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] innomi:
Hey guys.

So as i staten a few comments back. My gf has Android via the nitdroid now on her N9.

There are now 3 alpha versions on the web.

Thought i updated you all with the latest version .

So far only things not properly werking for my gf is camera and calling lol.

Not that my gf minds that. She Just reboots into original tho make Phone call or take a pic.

Shes Just so glad that She has Android on her Phone :)

Alpha 4 btw is rumered to have both those optioneel also so i Guess She had to wait a month or so to have full working Android.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
Wow really? So entire functionality will be possible in about 1-month?

I'm really surprised by that....

Are you 100% sure that every hw function will be working properly by then?

I wasn't interested in trying NITroid until it's fully stable (as much as it can be).

Sounds like it's moving fast, I may end-up testing it sooner than I'd planned.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] innomi:
Nope.

As i said its rumored to have those included.

I have nothing to do with the development or whatever.

I am Just someone Who flashed my gf N9 with all 3 alphas.

So i have tested them how they work etc.

My gf is living it very much as i said earlyer. Only things Shes missing is calling. And camera.

But as i sayd. On the nitdroid forums it is rumored to have those in alpha 4.

And Since they release a alpha every month until now. I am hoping This release is quick :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
^I'd be surprised if they manage to hack-in support for every hw aspect...

NITdroid for the N900 was quite incomplete, I don't expect the N9 to be very different.

But once Camera & GSM is added, that may be good enough for many users!

If anyone's actively using/testing NITdroid, plz continue to share your experiences!

I'm far more interested in an application compatibility layer like OpenACL or AlienDalvik.

For boring reasons I won't go into, both of them won't ever come to the N9.

Our only hope now are XobotOS & IcedRobot, the former seems to be more advanced.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] innomi:
True.

Yet the only reason for This topic was to informatie about nitdroid and their status.

I am not saying it Will be as good as Android on my galaxy s2.

Yet it is mentionable enough to put on xda. Since they are Seriously working on it.

And as you said when fhe calling and camera are fixed its good enough.

But keep in mind that nokia n9 users are already glad if they can use Android for daily purpose on the n9. I know my gf Will be ;)

The os on the n9 is very fast.

But thats about the only good things about it.

Now with nitdroid (even when its half as good as normale android) they can enjoy their Phones more.

Especialy with the big dif in nokia and Google market.

Thats my reason for keeping you up to dat with the info from nitdroid + my own experience of it. Since my gf has it :)

Peace.

Send from my Samsung s2 with checkrom + neak.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
I'm a heavy user of Android & I def. haven't found it to be

better

than Maemo6x (MeeGo-Harmattan).

Built-in utility/functionality is quite comparable between the two platforms.

The only reason one might prefer Android, is if one downloads/buys heaps of apps.

Or if there's apps

needed

that aren't available for Maemo6x & there's no substitute.

I'm struggling to get through all the apps available for Maemo6x let alone Android.

So I don't see how "lack of apps" is much of an issue, but everyone's usage is different.

The only category of apps that's significantly poor on Maemo6x is Games.

If you're a heavy gamer you may find it lacking, but then there's EmuMaster.

Which is the best emulation app I've seen, including anything on Android.

/on-topic/

Yes it won't be as perfect as your experience on a SGSII, but hopefully it'll be good enough for most uses.

From a technical stand-point, an application compatibility layer's still far more interesting.

But if anyone's still actively using/testing this, please share your experiences, thank-you!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] innomi:
And thats why i share my and my gf experiences :)

I hope more People use This so other People can tribute to!

And about the app and games.

Harmattan has very few Free apps and games. And the ones they have are incompleet or suck.

I havent found any downloadeble apps or games for it.

Now Android is a while different story.

You can get every thing you want.

Plus. Harmattan os is fast But lacking alot if you compared with android.

Those are main reasons for developing Android on n9.

Keep you updated :)

Send from my Samsung s2 with checkrom + neak.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
It doesn't sound like you've actually looked very hard....

Apart from the obvious place (Nokia Store), there's several other app sources.

As it's not your main ph, you're probably unaware of all the communities/sources.

I recommend investing more time to find what's actually out there.

I can detail much of it for you, but it's getting quite off-topic...

As I said, the games repo is fairly poor for regular gamers, but most other genre's certainly don't "suck".

Of course if you want something good, you have to pay more often than you do for Android (not always).

That's the reality for a platform that was killed before it launched and had a chance to grow much bigger.

That in itself doesn't make it poor, it just means VFM isn't as good as Android for those who can't afford the $.

Then there's the Free/FOSS sw; given the community's size, the ratio of good sw produced is impressive.

Built-in functionality is roughly at parity with ICS, and it's hackability is definitely less rigid.*

What it lacks is the massive enthusiast communities that Android has...

Still, it's relatively tiny community produces a surprising amt of content, thanks mainly to that hackable system.

So as to keep this thread on-topic.....

I recommend starting threads here & here detailing the kind of apps you need.

I'm sure many would gladly point you to apps (or alternatives) that you can't find.

If you do let me know, & I'll also add my thoughts/experiences, if I have time.

*referring mainly to the lower layers, the UX is less hackable in some respects.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] innomi:
I agree with most you said.

Execpt as i stated earlyer.

Im Just talking about my view and my gfs view.

Thats why i said that.and tgats why i said Android is much better.

If you dont want me to give Our revieuws theb Just say so.

I was Just trying to contribute.

Peace.

Send from my Samsung s2 with checkrom + neak.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
That's cool, I can understated why others experiences may be different...

It can happen very easily.....

I'd recommend reaching out to the TMO community to find the apps you're seeking.

Thanks for sharing your NITroid experience, I look forward to hearing more about it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] innomi:
:)

Its my gf that has the lack of apps on nokia.

I am not complaining with my galaxy s2 ;)

Shes desperately waiting for alpha 4 She hopen that the calling optioneel is in it ;)

Send from my Samsung s2 with checkrom + neak.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
Cool, get her to post where I suggested, many of the apps she needs/wants will be pointed out...

If a popular app doesn't exist, there's often a F/OSS alternative that works well, sometimes better :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soban_mub:
Why nokia dint release any android phone? just cuz Google and Microsoft are competitor?? if im right .android never going to come in nokia???
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
Don't necro here....

There's

LOTS

of lengthy articles (& corresponding discussions) over the past 2yr+ which explain why they chose not to take that path.

One good site to dig-up some of them is: http://www.mynokiablog.com
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
old topic, but there is actually some work being done on getting android on nokia n9. still quite early and not everything works.

you can find the info here: http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
This isn't new* it's been going for at least 12mth, it stopped for a while, but lately it seems to have (slightly) resumed activity.

*it's even discussed [in detail] in this thread!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
lol if you think i bothered to read 6 pages

i dont see what is wrong with posting it again. since i doubt anyone else would bother to read the other pages as well.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
Did I say anything was wrong with it, I just pointed out that there's been lots of chatter on this (including in this thread), & that it's not a new development (as your post suggested).

Now that that post is there, people will know to review this thread (amongst other sources), as there's more detailed info. about NITDroid's progression documented within.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yansuke:
heiii :)

i using nokia n9 os android 4.1.1 jb alpha5 nitdroid.. but there's to many bug.. camera, bluetooth receiving, nfc, phonecall doesn't work.. anyone can help me fix this bug? or any custom rom like cyanogenmod for nokia n9?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
Post in the NITdroid forum, that's where the user-base is centred... >.>

The next most suitable place is talk.maemo.org (find the right sub-forum).
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yansuke:
no one can help me in that forum, so i ask here,, but you suggest me to go to that forum again, heeem, still waiting nitdroid alpha6 for N9, but since a year has past nothing uodates yet.. :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
Well that the best place, if you're getting radio silence there or TMO, then you can probably assume it's dead.

Do some research on other ways to contact the lead devs, if you reach out to them they may explain what's happening.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobhc87:
I think there's no possibilities for a stable version of Nitroid on N9: too much time on working on and nothing considerable in this project...:crying:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
It was explained from (almost) the beginning why this was going to be a "long shot".

Go to the main thread at talk.maemo.org & read the last 20 pages (at least)...

Thanks to the HADK we'll see it on more devices (which used to be Android-only) with

far more

recent hw.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobhc87:
Is that thread? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66459
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jalyst:
Of course not, that's NITdroid, which is a port of Android to N9/N900.

For info. about Sailfish on N9, you need a thread about that:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90761

No more responses from me, not subscribed to this thread, sorry.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] kalkar:
Thanks for sharing. for me PFGPS didnt work either. well it kind of worked, until i rebooted and then it couldnt find any sattelites at all. i went to sangingerace 3.6 and now it fixes almost instantly. well after reboot i have to wiat about 1 min or so, but thats all, and theres only 2 lines in my gps.conf:

SUPL_HOST=supl.google.com
SUPL_PORT=7276

If i get a chance (if i find my usb cable :D ), i'll try out your settings for sure. I wonder if it will work also on other phones - then again - why shouldnt it??
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] happily1986:
hmmm by right your gps.conf should look like the default one i have posted. I am not sure why your gpd.conf only rely on SUPL to achieve GPS locks.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] ZangadU:
Thank you, now the accuracy reaches 6 feet in less than a minute.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] consegregate:
App: fasterfix.

Does it do the same thing?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] ZangadU:
here the fasterfix didnt works ;x
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] happily1986:
I personally have not tried but in theory it may do for you the same thing. Well, what happen for me is that i came across this tool called Captivate SGS Tools which is meant for SGS users. There was a function to supposedly fix your GPS and i thought that it will rollback my gps.conf after i thought that FGPS fix made it worse. However, i used Captivate SGS Tools and when i opened up gps.conf, it still had FGPS's code comments in it. In addition, i realise i don't even have secgps.conf!

So i resorted to this good old manual way! :o

Hope this clarifies matters.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] casiocas:
Hey!

Just wanted to ask, dose it really worked for you?

I want to know, REALLY.

TIA!

CHEERS! :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] Pluip:
Tried it today. Worked like a charm. Thanks!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] norrie2204:
Permissions

Could anyone please tell me the correct Permissions for these files in Root Explorer....thanks in advance

Cheers Norrie
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] happily1986:
Permissions: rw-r-r
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] kalkar:
from terminal: chmod 644
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] spicediablo:
How do I set permission for the file? Through cwm?

Sent from cyanogen7ace
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] happily1986:
Easiest way is via an app called Root Explorer. Long press on the file and you tap on Permissions in the pop up menu. Edit permissions as rw-r-r row wise (top to bottom)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] spicediablo:
Thanks!!. I was looking through the guide. Strange enough, I couldn't find /data/gps folder in my CM7. Anything wrong with my phone?

Currently my gps.config looks like this:

NTP_SERVER=europe.pool.ntp.org

XTRA_SERVER_1=http://xtra1.gpsonextra.net/xtra.bin

XTRA_SERVER_2=http://xtra2.gpsonextra.net/xtra.bin

XTRA_SERVER_3=http://xtra3.gpsonextra.net/xtra.bin

SUPL_HOST=supl.google.com

SUPL_PORT=7276

I'm in Malaysia. So I should edit line 1-4?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] happily1986:
Read my 1st post please. it tells you exactly what to do.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] spicediablo:
Yes i've read the first post. Couldn't find the location for secgps.conf which should be placed in /data/gps.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] happily1986:
As taken from the 1st post,
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] spicediablo:
I tried to change the permission but encountered error.what should I do?

Sent from cyanogen7ace
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] happily1986:
Set the permissions AFTER your have moved the files to /system
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] spicediablo:
Ok I managed to move the files there.thanks!

Sent from cyanogen7ace
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] tamhaeda:
It works

Works for me.

11-12 satellites used, initially took around 3-4 minutes to get locked. but after all, it only takes less than one minute to get lock.

Accuracy 4-5 meter.

I am in Indonesia.

Great thanks to happily1986

:) :cool:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] spicediablo:
Mine is around 30 seconds.still testing though...

Sent from supercharged cyanogen7ace
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] ysgace:
Initial results fantastic, got a lock on my balcony (covered) within 10 seconds. Thank you @happily1986
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] spicediablo:
Mixed results for mine.sometimes more than few minutes though I turn off agps.before using,I normally download using wifi before using GPS.will continue observing..

Sent from supercharged cyanogen7ace
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] ZangadU:
someone can help me?

now my gps status in less a minute:

but dont fix ;\ i dont recive my location :\

thanks
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] delhipeoplecool:
Its working fine now
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] happily1986:
are you still using the gps.conf and secgps.conf from my 1st post?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] ZangadU:
yes! using the servers :

0.br.pool.ntp.org

2.br.pool.ntp.org

3.br.pool.ntp.org
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] happily1986:
you shouldn't apply fixes concurrently while using my configuration files. this is because my configuration files instruct the gps transceiver to start in warm mode. warm mode means that the gps transceiver uses satellite position data from the last few locks (which is stored in its cache) to seek a lock (more quickly)

when you do a GPS fix, you are wiping the gps cache which works against the configuration file because the gps transceiver has to effectively start in cold mode. maybe the app you are using has altered the secgps and gps config files too, i am not sure. i would have to see the files to be sure.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] mjaquiler:
Im just curious , whats the purpose of the secgps? Will the gps read that?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Android Development] nicgoh:
May i know how to do a ping and a tracert in cmd? :p thx for the sharing bro

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i had copied both the files to the directories mentioned and set permission.

THen i tested it with gps status with an A-gps update.

But i took me 282secs to get my first lock under cloudy situation and i am standing near my balcony.

After archiving the first lock, i reboot and tested it again with 112secs lock time.

then i reversed it back to my default config, it took me 82secs to lock. have i did anything wrong?

I am using the malaysia's NTP server, currently running on ginger cruzt v2.1