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[Motorola Photon 4G] Draiko:
Moto is currently testing ICS on the Xoom. Since the Photon and the Xoom basically have the same Tegra 2 SOC, I don't see why the Photon wouldn't get ICS.

We're probably in for a bit of a wait, though.

I'm already hearing very good things from the Official and EOS ICS builds running on the Xoom. It's supposed to be insanely fast.
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
Sprint's TOS let them limit the amount of data used while roaming.

So - this is not a solution to broken 4G.

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You're comparing apples (Xoom = GED device) and oranges (Photon = non-GED and un-marketed). Xoom and Photon also have different drivers in general. While I also believe we'll see a Photon ICS release someday, the official release is many months away since Moto has still not even said they'll upgrade the Photon.

BTW, I have a Xoom which is recently rooted and running ICS. It's very fast!
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
You can roam on it?
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
With a simple click
[Motorola Photon 4G] John Kotches:
That might be a bit ambitious. 1Q or 2Q 2012 is what I expect. Pushing beyond Q2 would be a serious disappointment.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
If it pushes beyond Q2 then they'll have Quad Core phones and I don't honestly seem them pushing to get us the update. But....as the Atrix 2 is being released here soon with similiar specs (I think....thought I could be wrong) and I THOUGHT that was getting it, don't see why we won't. And if not, someone will port it. Hell, I'll figure out how to port it if absoluetely need be. It probably won't work....boot....or function, but I'll find a way to port it. :D

But on a serious note, we'll get it. As has been mentioned our hardware is perfectly able to run it. They just probably aren't pushing the info for phones all ready released on Sprint (As they aren't the largest network) so they want to drive more sales of the Bionic and such. But I'm sure we'll get it once they've managed to do that. Just my opinion. Not fact. Before someone asks me where I got my info. :cool:
[Motorola Photon 4G] dcowboys2184:
If sprint and motorola was smart they would say photon would be the first.., sales would rise on this phone in a heartbeat
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
I don't think Motorola has enough invested into Sprint to really give to ****s. The majority of their phones are on Verizon, and maybe one or two on AT&T. So I think that is more why they're pushing for those phones, since they have the sales behind them. Sadly....
[Motorola Photon 4G] cutter2668:
Straight from the Horses Mouth ROFL

you had a live web chat with some goofy customer service rep, they sure know what they are talking about lol, where's the brand new phones with ice cream on em? havent seen one yet have you??? already gettin hot under the collar about an update for your photon to the latest, takes months for any such updates to show up on any phone as an upgrade

your web chat with someone who can barely speak english is no different than getting information from a sprint customer service rep, reading cue cards to make responses, those people dont know anything about the products either at sprint or motorola, this is hardly to be regarded as factual or definitive.

chances are ice cream will be available down the road, just a guess here but we will see NEW phones........before we see updates to existing phones as an upgrade

cant believe people lose slip over crap like this
[Motorola Photon 4G] rbeavers:
follow up tweet from Moto

UPDATE: In a second tweet posted some time later, Motorola suggests that it was referring to software updates for existing devices rather than new Ice Cream Sandwich device launches. “We’ve communicated that we are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR (as well as Motorola RAZR, DROID BIONIC, and Motorola XOOM) to Ice Cream Sandwich, and will provide more precise guidance on timing within 6 weeks post public push of ICS by Google,” a Motorola spokesperson told BGR in a statement.

Thanks BGR.

Didn't see Photon......

Photon is for business. Business (IT) don't like to update (change) anything.
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
im curious on how this is a business phone? everyone keeps saying its for people that have business intentions etc

http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/sho...0024&flow=AAL&planSKUId=&ptn=&tabId=dt_phones

thats a direct quote from sprints site, so its for tech lovers whos personal and professional life mix.. and then goes on to talk about its multimedia features and how its blazing fast wimax 4g is..
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Probably because it has a SIM card and is international useable. *shrugs*
[Motorola Photon 4G] tayzer522:
Considering Google has aquired Motorola Mobility, I'd be extremely suprised if we don't get ICS on our MoPhos.

@John Kotches- We'll probably end up waiting until Q2 or Q3 (Q1 2012 has already started ;))
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
well why dont someone try to port it over i know it will take some work if they can drop a port for the nexus s they can do it for the photon
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Because as of now the Devs are working on CM7. And I guess the port is SDK so it isn't fully functioning. But I'm not completely sure of that.
[Motorola Photon 4G] CCallahan:
Motorola listed some phones up front that would get it. Then went on to say that ICS will be pushed to other phones over time (although didn't specify which ones). Never have I read anything stating that only a few select phones are getting ICS.

If someone has seen an official statement from Motorola saying this point blank then please post me the link.

No reason why the Photon will be left out of the upgrade. ;)
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
You know how speculation works, if it isn't posted in writing you are getting something everyone jumps to the conclusion it isn't coming.
[Motorola Photon 4G] B-Real206:
Did people forget about the 18 month window for updates, I'm pretty sure this phone will fall into that time frame.

Sent from Space using XDA App
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
I don't think most people know about the 18 month window. To be honest, I didn't. So that could be part of the issue.
[Motorola Photon 4G] inimitableac:
You guys do know that was a VERIZON quote and has nothing to do with sprint or ATT phones they would be stupid not to update their flagship sprint phone or the atrix2 plus look at how frequent we get updates theres no way they focus so much time on getting this phone perfect just to skip the most important update

PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
I fail to see how paying attention would have anything to do with assumptions you're making. To pay attention to something there would have to be some factual information to watch......just sayin'.
[Motorola Photon 4G] dcowboys2184:
exactly what i was saying
[Motorola Photon 4G] John Kotches:
Not until Motorola Mobilities stockholders approve the deal. That board meeing is November 17th. While it is unlikely they will reject the deal, it is not yet officially done.

Only if you run a fiscal calendar that starts in October 2011. People don't corporations do.

Cheers,
[Motorola Photon 4G] fester30:
Any time you see Q1 or Q2 etc. on the news, they're talking about a traditional calendar. While a corporation's fiscal year may be different than the traditional calendar, the news and business news simplifies things for the audience by putting everyone on the same calendar for the purposes of reporting, and companies do the same thing for public releases. When a company says it'll release something Q1 2012, that nearly always means Jan-Mar 2012, unless it's meant to be an internal message for the financial side of the company, and then they'll normally put the word fiscal or FY (fiscal year). The government operates on a October 1 through September 30th fiscal year. Even then, when the government or Fed Reserve talks about how the first quarter of 2011 was for home sales or unemployment or whatever in public releases, they are talking about Jan-Mar 2011.
[Motorola Photon 4G] halfdriven:
+1

and once the merger is complete we all know which OM will get Google updates first :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Couple more weeks
[Motorola Photon 4G] IP IHI II IL:
I've found that all of the reps i've talked to (Sprint, Moto, HTC, Verizon...) actually know less than most of us on XDA. It's unfortunate that we need them for anything, but once in a while we do. Information on what's coming isn't one of them, though...

Pew! Pew! Pew! From my Mo-Pho!

http://android-gz.com
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
That is likely due to this being an information shared community and we get a lot of leaked info that they perhaps disregard?
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
And also their 'day job' gives them a strong incentive to NOT share rumors and facts.

I'm in the consulting biz (will not be more specific than that). I will not comment on or post on what deals my company is pursing or has delivery issues in.

But I love to comment on, and share plausible rumors on, other areas of tech that I use and understand.

I firmly believe that we'll get ICS someday. If not, I'll play the '18-month' card and ask Sprint for a dffferent phone. (They're pretty receptive to long-term customers with multi-line accounts who make polite requests)
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Job security IF you have insight is a valid point.
[Motorola Photon 4G] dreDrennon1:
i worked for VZW and in this business i will tell you from experience they dont tell reps anything i told at least 10 peope the iphone was coming to VZW months before it was officially announced VZW was saying no it wasnt we had no info in the system nor the the other system we had that told about all VZW equip , release dates , software . then at the last minute they made the official announcement that is how it goes hold info to build anticipation and boost sales trust me the photon is getting ICS i start working for sprint on 10/31 so i will find out more details as soon as i can i wil get in good with someone in marketing and sales like i did at VZW those guys even told me how iphones VZW bought before they even announced they were getting it so i will find out for everyone hopefully i can get an eta
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Sweet deal. An XDA inside person. Ha.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Draiko:
Don't forget that this is one of motorola's most complex phones. The Razr and Bionic are both CDMA/LTE only. The Photon is a CDMA/WiMax/GSM device.

It may take a little longer for Moto to officially get ICS on our MoPhos but I'm pretty confident that we will see ICS.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Semseddin:
ATRIX, PHOTON, DROID 3 will get ICS. DON'T FOOL YOURSELVES WITH BS, PLEASE !
[Motorola Photon 4G] Nickdroid86:
Y'all at aware google just bought motorola for 12.5 billion dollars IN CASH? I'm sure ics is no problem.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
That deal hasn't been approved by the board of investors yet. Meeting is the 17th of Nov I believe.
[Motorola Photon 4G] John Kotches:
based on the posts here, very few understand how this actually works.

it's a formality, but the events still have to play out.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
I don't understand them you be correct.
[Motorola Photon 4G] :
Droid 3 wouln't get ics
[Motorola Photon 4G] R2DeeTard:
Its just like when you buy a house. You don't own it until you close and sign your name on the contract. The company I work for is in the process of being bought by Time Warner. Although it was "purchased" back in August, they probably wont close until February. They still have to make sure the takeover goes smoothly. Same thing is happening with Moto and google.
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
Correct - very few understandthe length of time, due diligence and regulatory approvals to close a big deal like this.

I've been involved peripherally in deals that fell apart at the last minute - 1 due to Justice Dept antitrust issues, one due to the numbers.

I agree that this one feels unlikely to crash - but it's never over until it's over.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Then hopefully the meeting in a couple weeks brings good news.
[Motorola Photon 4G] matroe11:
fixed that for you.
[Motorola Photon 4G] R2DeeTard:
:-\ thanks
[Motorola Photon 4G] wynand32:
Actually, you do own your house so long as you're not in default on the mortgage. The lender has a lien against the house, since you used it as collateral for the loan, but the house itself is yours. Same thing when you take out a loan to buy a car. Note that if you didn't own such property, you wouldn't be responsible for paying taxes on it, which of course you are.

Completely off-topic, I know, but...
[Motorola Photon 4G] bc ct:
Unless you happen to live in a "title" state, in which case the bank holds the title to your home, car, etc until the debt is paid in full and the collateral is released.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Ok i think we getting a little off topic....

Lol....but lets get back to the subject but how would we try to make a port should we wait for the bionc or something
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
I think once the source code and ICS are actually released, we may not have to port it from another device. But we'll see.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ricocollege:
Just like all the other roms that were ported over right?

It was a well know fact of you wanted ics or most of the great roms out there, this was not the phone for you. No need to be upset about it now. Why do you think they are advertising it as a work phone?
[Motorola Photon 4G] cutter2668:
WOW

Amazes me people still grumbling about IceCreamSandwhich, any new phones out with Ice Cream Sandwhich????? ANYONE??????

AND WE HAVE A WINNER BOB THE ANSWER IS NO................

Golly beaver why are all these people pissing and whining about getting an update to their phone then? I dunno Wally shuks I guess cuz they like to complain.

And where are all these well known facts you keep coming up with? How bout those lists you keep spouting off about?

There is no definitive answer at this time whether or not the photon 4g will get an ICS update folks PERIOD.

As for roms how many dam roms do you need? How often must one change the look of their phone? Maybe some of you should try buying a fresh pair of underwear.

:D
[Motorola Photon 4G] rbgotee784:
I agree i had the evo and was constantly looking for the rom i wanted to stick with flashed and reflashed. But the roms were cool at first, then time for a change . And then there were the glitches. Ungh anyway i am happy with the photon except for the widgets... and if we get ICS sweet if not im sure one of our amazing devs here at xda will port it once the source is released.
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
hahahaha you sir earn my one thanks of the day
[Motorola Photon 4G] deedscreen:
Shabby, you can do better than 1 a day, lol. But yes, there is no definate answer as to whether we get ICS. Wait until the Galaxy Nexus comes out, wait 6 to 10 weeks after the release, and we will hear more information.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ORam78:
This thread needs to close.. waste of server space..
[Motorola Photon 4G] deedscreen:
That is agreed.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
It wont get deleted.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ricocollege:
Maybe your confused what forum your on, you don't like lots of roms then you not should post here. Android central is more your speed.

This is a rom development site...... "xda developers" , hello..

Whats worse? the complainers or the forum volunteer police department. lol

and I for one love fresh underwear.....

Sent from my EVO 3D.
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Im enjoying ice cream sandwich on my phone...it didnt last long though
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Haha. How'd you get it?
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
spilt it ;P

O.o
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
the store:D
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Bahahaha. Wise ass. :P
[Motorola Photon 4G] Puzzlegal:
Meh. I'm here mostly because of ICS. I mostly hang out on Android Central. As a complete newbie, I asked, "what's the point of loading a custom ROM?" and I didn't get a compelling answer. But I completely see the point of getting ICS. I, for one, will be very disappointed if no one even ports it over.
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Loading custom roms makes your day to day enjoyment of your phone increase
[Motorola Photon 4G] bricky23:
Hopefully they port a low fat version. Maybe frozen yogurt. I'm trying to loose weight.
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Seriously, this is Motorola and sprint. Itll be a fat nagging sloth with a fancy coat. Theyll call it ice cream motoblob
[Motorola Photon 4G] cornelious2:
you want to downgrade to 2.2?
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Lolol. Nice. But we can always modify it.
[Motorola Photon 4G] deedscreen:
You beat me to the punch, xTMFxOffshore!!!

I was going to say the same thing! LOL!
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Haha, sorry Man! Great minds think alike!
[Motorola Photon 4G] R2DeeTard:
Frozen yogurt (froyo) is old news.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
I think it was more of a joke about food Man. Not the OS.
[Motorola Photon 4G] deedscreen:
I agree with xTMFxOffshore.
[Motorola Photon 4G] boredmug:
It bugs me to not know whether we are getting ics, but I've never had an android phone that didn't atleast one os upgrade.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Why don't you wait til ICS officially comes out before getting too upset. Maybe something better will be out shortly after. :P but we won't get it til it's released anyway.
[Motorola Photon 4G] leomaxi:
Sprint has released a statement that jives with HTC's earlier announcement that some of its current smartphones would be upgraded to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich in early part of next year. Sprint says that it will bring the upgrade to a "variety of devices," but it specifically mentions that the HTC EVO 3D and the new HTC Design 4G would be upgraded for certain. The carrier expects the upgrades to be delivered over-the-air to customers in the early part of 2012

When there will be announcements upgraded to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich for Photon 4G?
[Motorola Photon 4G] deedscreen:
Motorola released a statement about a month ago stating that any devices not already mentioned to be upgraded will be given more information 6 weeks after the release of Ice Cream Sandwhich.

We will get a list of devices after six weeks, and hopefully the Photon will be one of them.

Hope I helped.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Probably after it's been officially released. Which is still hasn't been yet.
[Motorola Photon 4G] deedscreen:
We posted at the same time xTMFxOffshore, lol.

Good Morning.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Haha, that we did. Mornin' Bud.
[Motorola Photon 4G] demonotaku:
I Know how you feel but I just upgraded from a MyTouch 3G 1.2 - That took forever to get updates.
[Motorola Photon 4G] John Kotches:
What I find interesting is tha the original Evo 4G is reaching 18 months of age and might not get the upgrade. I'm not saying yes / no /whatever but IIRC Google's target was 18 months or so of upgrades for phones.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
I'm not worried about it anymore.
[Motorola Photon 4G] fester30:
But the original Evo originally had Eclaire, then got upgrades to Froyo and Gingerbread. That's two updates for that phone.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
I doubt it will get ICS.
[Motorola Photon 4G] John Kotches:
i think of it as a good glimpse to the long term future of high end devices as they become entry level over time.
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
Why is the number of updates relevant? Google said '18 months', not 'x upgrades'.

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Sorry, not sure what that means. ?? tnx
[Motorola Photon 4G] craby1925:
That makes no sense. The xoom has a worse chip set than the photon yet it will get ics? If zoom gets ics, and the photon would have to
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Huh, zoom equals tegra 2, photon equals tegra2
[Motorola Photon 4G] John Kotches:
in 18 months or so our high-end phones will be entry or mid level devices.

how the evo 4g gets treated may tell us how the photon will be in late 2012.
[Motorola Photon 4G] craby1925:
Does 512 MB ram equal 1024mb ram? (Aka, check your facts next time)
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Umm you said chipset, check yourself next time
[Motorola Photon 4G] fester30:
I was replying to someone saying the Evo won't get the ICS upgrade, and was reaching 18 months. I thought the person I was replying to was saying the Evo didn't get upgrades. I may have misunderstood.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
If it was me. I would venture a guess of no.
[Motorola Photon 4G] CCallahan:
I would have to say "yes". No sense comparing the Photon to the ogEVO. The hardware is far superior on the Photon. If the 3VO is getting ICS then no reason why the Photon shouldn't be expected to. If the hardware is plenty capable then why not.

Way too early to say for sure. Not even any devices with ICS out as far as I am aware.
[Motorola Photon 4G] xTMFxOffshore:
Yeah. They keep pushing the Prime back. Not sure why. Steve Jobs has been dead for a while now. So that doesn't work now.
[Motorola Photon 4G] John Kotches:
you need to work on your parsing skills then. i said it "might not" get the upgrade. you literally changed my words.

as an fyi it isn't on htc's list of ics target platforms yet.
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
Reading comprehension just gets a bit worse every year on the interwebs, doesn't it?
[Motorola Photon 4G] fester30:
I thought you were using the Evo 4g's possible lack of ICS upgrade as it reaches its 18 month mark as an example for why the Photon might not get ICS, since the topic of this thread is whether or not the Photon will get ICS. I was just pointing out that the Evo 4g did get two upgrades, so even if it doesn't get ICS, that's no reason to think Photon won't get even one upgrade.
[Motorola Photon 4G] deedscreen:
My Android Sources Say...

The HTC EVO 4G is outdated. Chances are, the phone will not get ICS (Ice Cream Sandwhich)/Android 4.0 because of its hardware specifications. According to my sources, (which must remain unnamed), the HTC EVO SUPERSONIC WiMax 4G Android Device does not have enough Internal Memory to hold the ICS Android 4.0 Update, and I was told that this is one of the reasons why it was not only discontinued by Sprint, the Now Network, but also not listed in HTC's Press Release of the phones getting the Android 4.0 update. But again this information is only preliminary.

My sources are reliable, and this is the closest to the fact you may find. But again the information is only preliminary.
[Motorola Photon 4G] John Kotches:
I'm thinking about YE2012 and what comes after ICS (jelly bean? ). by that time, i expect photon to be a mid-range phone.
[Motorola Photon 4G] John Kotches:
what, now i can't read? ;)
[Motorola Photon 4G] dmora01:
We don't need good sources to know the HTC EVO is not going to be updated to ICS bc any body know it is a old phone and it is why nexus one is no going to have it neither.

If HTC is going to upgrade the EVO 3D to ICS, I dont see a reason why motorola is not going to do it with the Mopho. Any way if we get the ICS update, it is going to happen next year!! so for now enjoy the best phone in the crap Now Network.;)

Yeah!!! Sprint sucks!
[Motorola Photon 4G] deedscreen:
I agree with almost everything you say, but because the Nexus One is a pure Google Phone, also because it is part of the Nexus line, I believe it will get the update. But it may not because of marketing purposes for the new Nexus. So I think you are right and it will not get the update, because of the Nexus Prime Marketing. They don't want people saying "This is the same thing."

Umm, if you hate the Now Network, then switch to a different carrier. Lol. Sprint is much better than it used to be, and is getting better by implementing the LTE, Long Term Evolution Network.

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I get WONDERFUL COVERAGE where I live, and I personally think Sprint has great Customer Service, so I can't complain.