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[Acer Iconia A500] JdgM3NT4L:
Dang. Perhaps a different rom, I dig my stock 3.2 rooted by ezterry. I do have a little lag, but I have no less than 9 widgets. If they're running maybe kill a widget or 3. Same for the live wallpapers. I'm certain that there are quite a few other things that you can do to improve performance.

I don't have an iAnything. Never will. And I have to say that you're right about the smoothness. Those suckers are pretty sweet. But I'll take my widgets, customization, live wallpapers, usb, hdmi, Flash, sdcard, and so on/so forth over that any day. And if I change my mind I'll remove those things that are slowing things down. I've tried it and the tab is like butter.

Sooo...

I wish you the very best on your (possible) upcoming iAdventure. Hate to see anyone go, and holler when you get back!
[Acer Iconia A500] shin lucifer:
Cant say about others here. But personally i am very seldom in portrait mode. Reading manga probably the only time i am in that mode, feel pretty smooth on stock browser. The only time i see any lag, is when system is switching mode. But that is to be expected, given the processor/ram and the resolution; it will take time to adjust but its barely a second.

I have dual 24" IPS monitor form dell with very high resolution, on a system running at 4Ghz/12gig ram with high end dual GFX. When i switch those monitor in portrait, even they take few sec to adjust and populate the icon on screen.

Been a while i used stock keyboard. I am using Thumb Keyboard 4, it has a little lag, but only because its show possible suggestion of what you typing. And usually its just a few words behind my speed of typing. I use Dolphin browser, but i have had no problem. Also use Stock browser too. I leave link and multiple tab open on dolphin browser so i can get to them later when i have time, never had any issue so far.

Had the same problem. Got the Music Folder Player (free), problem solved. And since i use headphone to listen to music, i dont really care if i can see album art and stuff. Other wise i would use stock player since the screen be on because i wanted to see album art and stuff LOL. Also got the Donate version of Folder Player, since i wanted to support the DEV.

Not sure what kind of heavy task you referring to. But i can run CF-bench, then switch to home when its done and have no lag at all... Or you can give some example of Heavy task you running, so i can test it on my system too.

I am running Stock 3.2 just modified for Root (Kekinash), with Thor's 3.7 Kernel. OC set to interactive 1504Max/608min. I didnt write the reply to prove OP issue wrong, just simply suggesting that there are answer to most of the problems just take time to find them, and the best part, you learn alot of new things as you try to find the solution of a particular problem.

That's one of the best part of Android you can make the OS work for you (some time and experience), compare to other Tablet OS that go out of there way to try to restrict you from manipulating OS to your advantage.
[Acer Iconia A500] Cactus42:
Not had any of these issues either with Stock 3.1, 3.2, Taboonay 2.2 or the latest Thor. Have had a little lag in the stock browser only in Facebook, but that's the page because it does it in every mobile browser except Opera.
[Acer Iconia A500] WarbyD:
Are you kidding me? You have looked at market, and Hive is the *ONLY* music player you can find? I reckon I could find dozens in a matter of minutes.. Personally, I'm using MixZing and it's working well for me.. I don't recall having any issues with the stock music app shutting off when the screen goes off either so I'm guessing that's a setting you've tinkered with somewhere (funny how when you change settings, the behaviour of things changes hey?)

Also, who cares if the stock app isn't exactly what you want? I'm pretty sure you select what programs suit *YOUR* needs to play music/movies/edit documents/browse the web/scratch yourself etc on your PC, and if you had an iPad I'm sure you would select the apps that suit *YOU* on there too - so what difference does it make? NO manufacturer is going to ship a device with exactly the applications you want, thats the whole reason that we are able to go out and buy/download those which suit our needs!

What exactly isn't right about it? I have a Motorola Atrix, I love the android implementation (because let's remember, thats what each of these devices ships with - another company's implementation of the android OS, not the bog stock "android os" from google) on there - straight out of the box without any modification it worked perfectly well.. And then I started tinkering and WOW! I could change damned near anything I wanted! FANTASTIC! But if that didn't interest me? NO problem, it shipped with a perfectly acceptable functioning system which well exceeded the performance of my wife's iPhone 4...

Almost every "bug" i read about, is nothing to do with android - it's do with someone's rom, or an error within an application - Windows applications crash, iOS applications crash, hell - even my old linux box used to crash from time to time when I started messing with things or running other people's software..

What is it that you and your friends ARE looking for in an OS? Because honestly, if what you want is something that *never* crashes, regardless of what you try to mess with, or that doesn't have *any* applications that are buggy or poorly implemented.. then I don't know, perhaps you'd best start looking for someone to port you a rom based on my old Nokia 5110?

/rant!
[Acer Iconia A500] kjy2010:
I found a solution to the OP's problems Here!

Guaranteed to fix his problems! :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] internetpilot:
An Android device is no different than any other electronic device or computer -- it's going to behave differently with different people. This is because of how each individual configures it, what apps they run, how they use it, even the environment (hot, cold, dusty, etc.) they use it in. No one here can say that you're not encountering the problems you say you are, but I can guarantee you that I won't be the last to tell you that I haven't encountered those problems.

I know you don't want to hear it, but if you want a turnkey system that minimizes the chance of encountering ANY problems, then you're going to have to go Apple. BUT keep in mind that you're going to have to accept some consolations with that decision, because Apple OS'es are very locked down so don't expect to be able to do much tweaking, personalizing, or customizing.

Again, I don't have extensive problems with the stock Music app, but I have had ZERO problems with Music Player for Pad -- whether I'm running things from the widget or the full app. It's been flawless. Not disputing that you're encountering problems -- just saying that I am not and looking at the market rating for that app it doesn't appear that a large percentage of the app's users are encountering problems.

I'm sure, but what percentage? You have to understand, people aren't going to come to technical forums like this and others and post,

"Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm having a perfect experience with my Android tablet and Android in general! LOVE IT! Thanks, Google!"

People come here to post about problems they're having. Even if 30 people post to a thread having the same problems you are, that doesn't address the millions of other users who are apparently not having this issue.

Okay, first of all, the way to a better operating system is not through Apple and definitely not through Microsoft. Both of those companies have had their share of stinker OS'es in the past (and present). I know it's difficult to look beyond your own experiences and needs, but the reason why Android isn't going to "quit the business" is because they are extremely successful and they are extremely successful because the vast majority of their users are very happy with the OS. Android is currently the most popular phone OS -- why do you think that should translate to them that they should "quit the business"?

Again, I know you said that you didn't want to hear it, but I think you've suggested your own best solution -- you need to go iOS. And if you're using a Windows based desktop or notebook PC, I would recommend getting rid of that and going with Apple, too. That's not meant to be an insult in any way -- you just don't seem happy using Android, and what most of us consider to be a huge benefit of the OS (open source, tweakable, customizable, etc.), you consider to be negative or undesirable. Why keep a device that makes you so unhappy? Take a loss, and buy a device you can be happy using. Life's too short.
[Acer Iconia A500] sw6lee:
I meant heavy task, say web browsing for a few hours, and when I go to home screen, it reloads the widgets, icons and everything again for maybe 3 seconds, and when I try to do something then, like open app drawer or scroll desktop or open another app, it is insanely laggy. Of course, it's only for 3-4 seconds, but it happens often, and it's very annoying.
[Acer Iconia A500] sw6lee:
I meant music player for honeycomb. These have controls in the notification bar, but other phone optimized music players don't have that, and while in an app, and you want to turn music off, you need to GO to the music app and pause it, and go back to the previous app you were in. This is why I don't use phone optimized music app on my iconia.

And the bugs I listed in my first post is all over the internet, so don't deny it. Maybe some few people don't have problem with it because they are running a custom rom, or using alternative apps.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353

http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/t...ic-will-not-continuously-play-sleep-mode.html

-Also, read description of Music Player for Pad and Hive Player on Market. They mention that their music player don't stop playing even when screen is off. They say that they changed a code or something.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15958

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jbm8QAS3DI

The bugs are all over the internet. You are saying that only very few people are having the problems I mentioned or any problems, and it's probably because of what they have done to the tablet. If you can't believe me, see the links I posted.
[Acer Iconia A500] internetpilot:
180 complaints across two threads = "all over the internet"?

Even if you count all 180 as being definite problems with Honeycomb, when you consider the number of Honeycombs devices out there and in use, 180 problems is statistically insignificant. As of October 19, a total of 3.8 million Honeycomb tablets have been sold. That's not even a percentage figure I can post here without using scientific notation. Statistically, it's WAY below 0.00%.

In skimming through the posts that you linked to, I did notice that most of the posts are about Honeycomb 3.0 and 3.1, with only a few posts at the bottom of each thread being recent and/or about 3.2. How many of the problems reported with 3.0 and 3.1 were fixed with the subsequent updates?

You also need to realize that Google is not responsible for the hardware -- it's the hardware manufacturer's job to make sure their hardware works with Honeycomb. It's like blaming Microsoft for your Dell PC running slow. That's not Microsoft's fault.

And you basically say that most people reporting no issues have likely solved the problems themselves by what they've done to the tablet? Well...do that as well and then you and the whopping 180 people won't have any problems, no?

I'm not saying that you're not encountering any problems with Honeycomb -- I'm sure you are. However, you're an insignificant statistic to Google, and there are soooooooo many people running the same hardware/OS who are not seeing any problems that it is highly likely that your problems are

1. A configuration issue.

2. Caused by a 3rd-party app.

3. Easily fixable by way of tweaking the configuration and/or using an alternate app.

Again, not saying that you're not encountering problems, but these problems are FAR from being as common as you claim. I would advise trying to figure out tweaks to solve your (apparently rare) problems, or you should resell the tablet and move on, and just consider Honeycomb to not be the OS for you.
[Acer Iconia A500] shin lucifer:
I can completely understand few seconds here and there over time can lead to frustration, especially now that our tech are so fast and we not so use to waiting on every commands.

My only suggestion will be, and i dont know if you have already tried this. Try to get Rooted Stock 3.2 with diff Kernels. Personally i was surprise how much smoother thing ran compare to 3.1. I mean i didnt have any problems with 3.1, but after Rooted Stock 3.2 i started to see difference in response time on small thing and it was fast.
[Acer Iconia A500] shaun298:
I am one of the silent millions, One hundred % happy with stock Three.two. No problems except sleep, but that will fixed. I just turn off. Hope you get working.
[Acer Iconia A500] sandiegoan:
Music stops on screen off

I was going to start a separate thread on this. I just went on a long airplane trip. One of the things i wanted to do was to doze and listen to music. I use Astro Player Nova paid edition. Mostly I like to access my music from folders, not albums or genres.

I have no problem on my My Touch 4G Slide or my previous G2. I just started dozing off on the airplane andd the music went off. I spent many aggrivated minutes several times trying to figure out what went wrong.

It is simple: the OS on the tab.

I did download the music player for pad. It is pretty good. BUT, the ads are annoying and there is no way to even pay to get rid of them and there is no trial for the other features that are in pro version.

Why does the music shut off when the screen does? Never happened on phones.

Is this a honeycomb problem? Is this a Acer problem? Is this something else?

Help Please.
[Acer Iconia A500] internetpilot:
The Pro version of Music Player for Pad is the way you pay to have the ads removed. When this app was in Beta you got everything for free with no ads. Now that it's out of Beta, the Pro features are no longer free. This is typical of most free vs paid versions of apps in the Android Market. Why do you need to "trial" the Pro features? It sounds like your main motive for buying the app is to get rid of the ads. For you the Pro features would be a bonus above and beyond the ad removal.

A 3rd party music player is the solution to your problem with the music stopping when the screen shuts off, unless you just want to set your screen to stay on all the time. Again, not too surprising that the stock apps that come with an OS aren't the end-all, be-all greatest. No one who buys Windows expects perfection from WordPad or Outlook Express or MS Paint. They buy MSOffice, Photoshop, etc.
[Acer Iconia A500] :
That's it, continue to feed the troll so this thread never dies. :rolleyes:

What the OP really needs is THIS.

He's not going to be happy until he has one! :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] internetpilot:
Please. Would someone buy his (obviously barely used) A500 so the poor guy can buy an iPad already?

Sorry, I always feel sorry for the trolls...all alone...under bridges of their own making....sniff...sniff...
[Acer Iconia A500] WarbyD:
Thank you!! This is one thing that's been bugging the heck out of me.. people complaining that they have to buy apps to get things exactly how they want them to be and actually going so far in many cases as to suggest that they buy a whole different device, just because Acer (or motorolla, or whoever..) didn't ship it exactly how *they* wanted it..

Especially annoying when you consider that most apps only cost between $0.99 and $2.99 !! I spend $2.20 on an iced coffee before work most days..
[Acer Iconia A500] :
Sorry, just read your post.

Do you really sit and stare at your tablet while listening to music so much that the ads bother you? And if so, why haven't you rooted and installed "AdFree" from the market, because that is truly a free app with no ads that gets rid of ads on other free apps?

:rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
Not sure that people screaming for ics quite understand the situation with Google and ics. Ics is a new is based on two concepts. Google's phone is and honeycomb,im under the impression people, well some people believe that ics will bring wonderful things to android.What is will bring is phones and tablets on the same platform.This might get better compatibility with apps from phones.But its going to add alot of code and drives to both phones and tablets.Drives and is code that might not be needed but for only one.

I do believe when ics comes it will more buggy then honeycomb was. Definitely alot more then it is now.

I just hope the added features will be worth the sorting out phase of ics.Im not sure why this has not been brought up in this thread as of yet.But its a true and worthy Topic.

What do you think ics will bring.

All good

Combination of good with its own issues and bugs

The is The Universe Has been waiting for. PURE PERFECTION.

My guess is equally as much issues as added features. I hope I am wrong.

Sorry for such a long post.but hey we can start complaining about ics before we get it.

GIGGLES
[Acer Iconia A500] orbix:
Here's the deal for me as far as the wake issue, the music player stopping issue, and any number of other issues with the stock apps...

Sure, I *could* take the time to find other apps that work, but I shouldn't have to look for non-stock apps just to do normal stuff. No one expects Notepad or Paint to replace Word or Photoshop, but it's not unreasonable to expect that programs like that will work consistently, and not lose functions or add bugs in later releases. On 3.0, I had no problems with the music player- it would play after the screen was off. Then 3.1 came out and the music issue started, and it wasn't fixed in 3.2.

As for the wake issue, I had issues with my Iconia powering down completely on 3.0, so it had to boot fully when I wanted to use it half the time. 3.1, the shutdown issue went away, but then the wake issue started, resulting in massive battery drain on a regular basis. It's *better* in 3.2, but still pretty pathetic.

I *really* want to like Android and stick with it, and have been a huge proponent of it for some time now, but it's just not maturing the way I feel like it should. Sure, there are a ton of limitations in iOS, but (in general) it doesn't seem to have the widespread issues that Android keeps having. If this was a 1.0 release, I'd be more willing to accept some bugginess, but come on, Google (and Acer- I know they're just as much to blame for these issues on the Iconia)... This is just absurd.
[Acer Iconia A500] internetpilot:
Okay. What am I doing right? Because I just played a 3-song playlist on my A500 running the stock Music app on 3.2 HC and the screen timed out at 1 minute. The music continued to play all three songs and then started to repeat the playlist.

I don't think Kekinash did anything to fix the Music app on his "stock" 3.2 HC ROM, so the question is does it work on some A500's and not others or is it because I have Music Player for Pad installed and that overwrote or fixed something? I am running the HoneyVillain kernel....?

---------- Post added at 04:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:15 PM ----------

See my other post about the Music app seeming to be fixed at least for me.

I promise I'm not being argumentative, but I have never relied on stock apps that come with an OS. I've always considered them to be barebones examples rather than something I would use every day. That philosophy goes way back to the first versions of Windows. I don't even use the stock calculator app...haha. :p.

In 2011 when most apps are typically just a couple $ or even free, there's just no reason to suffer through using lame stock apps. I'd rather the Google development team focus on the core OS than waste manpower on troubleshooting a utility app. Let the Market devs worry about apps.
[Acer Iconia A500] Neoprimal:
You're assuming that everyone has these issues though.

If Android isn't maturing the way you figure it should be, nuff' said - time for you to move on to something more your speed, at least that's what I would do.

Everyone I think, has to weigh what they want most out of owning a tablet and then go down that path. We know iOS is more consistent than Android. It's got some under the hood changes but for the most part works and looks the same as it did on the original iPhone. Apple has done a great job building it from the ground up, and an equally wonderful job at filtering apps for their market. If you want a consistent, less buggy environment then go with iOS. Android is ever growing, ever changing. Android 1.6 is a whole world apart from 2.3. HC is an offshoot of Android made specifically for giving tablets an Android that works well on it without shocking and forcing developers into changing Android for phones. It is an ever evolving OS which makes its home on ever evolving devices and so, bugs are going to happen, especially since the makers of these devices find the need to customize the software experience on said devices.

Unlike Apple, Google does not control every nook and cranny of Android. In life there's a trade off for everything right?, things are no different here. If you switch over to Apple you're trading off the ability to buy a variety of brands and types of devices for a more bug free experience, so to speak. iOS has less issues because Apple controls it on every level. Apple controls building the software and Apple controls the hardware it's put on. In essence, every aspect of iOS caters to the hardware in the iPhone/iPod Touch and iPad.

Android on the other hand entails the opposite of what's going on with iOS. It's an 'open' OS and someone's tinkering with the software on almost every level. Each vendor controls what their 'Android' is going to be for the consumer. Acer, Samsung, Motorola etc. all put different software on and tinker with the code in some way.

I don't agree that Android has "widespread issues". There are issues, yes. But I think the more 'dire' ones mostly boil down to a per-consumer scenario. Some people have 50 apps, some 150, some 350. Each one of these users is going to have a different experience on the same tablet.

I do not have a sleep issue or wake issues. I had both in 3.0.x.

I can also verify that my music plays whether the screen is on or off, I tested this with internal and external (SD) and using the default which I'm assuming is the Acer Media Player (used to be called Nemo) though my preferred 3rd party player is Google Music and Doubletwist.

What this means and I've mentioned this before - is that this is something affecting some users and not all. If there was a problem in 3.1 then it indeed has been fixed. I suggest you do a factory reset and test it afterwards. I can totally understand being frustrated with issues like those...and I can understand because I WAS frustrated as well. But from experience with PCs, I learned that when in doubt, format (factory reset) and that's worked wonders for me for both my tablet and my phone as well.

Good Luck