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[Motorola Photon 4G] dmora01:
I don't care if gets ICS, I love the way it runs with GB! It has been the best experience with android in a phone after HTC Hero, Moment, EVO, Nexus s and ET4G.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Chien35:
If we don't get the official release of ICS for Photon maybe coz Photon sold by Sprint carrier. You should ask Sprint rather than Motorola coz the update will be made if Sprint ask Motorola support.

But I'm pretty sure we will get ICS official or not coz someone must be on to it.:D:D:D
[Motorola Photon 4G] evobb10:
Don't worry Mophon owners about lack devs. We will be get ICS before new year
[Motorola Photon 4G] my2cents:
I thought Google had some rule (for lack of a better way of putting it) that states that manufacturers and carriers have to support Android phones for 18 months. But I guess that doesn't necessarily mean that OS upgrades are part of the deal.
[Motorola Photon 4G] FrameCityJackal:
I started making rants on their facebook page lol
[Motorola Photon 4G] RockoDev:
Motorola just posted this

http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/12/07/motorola-update-on-ice-cream-sandwich/
[Motorola Photon 4G] FrameCityJackal:
I already linked that. On facebook some douche is downing people in the post moto made...
[Motorola Photon 4G] RockoDev:
Haha my bad I thought I read a few pages back and didn't see it
[Motorola Photon 4G] deedscreen:
You can ALWAYS count on Motorola to screw Sprint users, and do anything for their belovèd Verizon Wireless. You can always count on them to screw us, they don't give a f*** about Sprint users, (unless we're talking about business Nextel phones), they could care less!!!

Watch, we won't get ICS, but someone will have to port it over.

But, if we do get ICS, guess what! It's gonna be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy after they finish upgrading Verizon phones, every other carrier, then the Photon. I put money on it that the Electrify will git it wayyyy sooner!
[Motorola Photon 4G] kennypow3rs:
So basically android open sources ice cream sandwich, it takes roughly 2 months to implement moto features (fix bugs, get rom to play nice), and another 2-3 months for sprint (any carrier) to approve. While this is pretty normal its almost impossible to guess when ics will hit moto devices but if i HAD to guess I'd say some time after spring break (March). That is unless the phone ships with ics....
[Motorola Photon 4G] kennypow3rs:
Its not just Motorola dude that's the process for most manufacturers. I can say that moto does have a special place in their hearts for Verizon but I'm sure Verizon kicks them back some serious money for exclusivity.
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
wait.. im sorry but what is everyone raging about?i thought their blog peice was amazingly written.. it allows some insight to the normal process and shows us that its not just moto holding the software hostage....

look at their list of device upgrades... not a single phone is listed as getting and upgrade to 4.0.. but thats cuz that list doesnt have all their devices.. that jut shows what is currently available...

their blog explains that it is a long process.. doesnt say zomg you guys arent getting ****...
[Motorola Photon 4G] oneliner:
Amen to that!
[Motorola Photon 4G] SNAAAAKEE:
I think that some people are angry because Motorola has yet to mention the photon as one of the devices that is for sure getting ICS. Having come from the Samsung Moment I know how slow these updates can take and I'm more then happy with cm7 that we have on our phones now. The only thing I wish phone manufacturers would do is stop wasting time with these skins they feel are so necessary. I can't think of a single person who really enjoys them, I understand that there trying to differentiate themselves from other devices but they could save a lot of time and money on development if they would just release a vanilla version on there phone.
[Motorola Photon 4G] foxsdaddy67:
personally i liked sense. but this blur stuff is butt ugly.

i look at it this way, when we get ICS we get it. if not oh well. this phone still kicks ass
[Motorola Photon 4G] kennypow3rs:
The world would be a better place if EVERY android phone shipped with the same vanilla aosp (i.e nexus s etc) and you had the option to load whatever skin (UI) you wanted. Fragmentation blows...
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
im personally a big fan of the htc vision. was an amazing phone. had cm7/miui/aosp/sense all available, plus it shipped it a 2.2 aosp-ish stock rom (no sense)
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Soon enough someone will start an ics for photon team where everyone can share source and submit bugfixs. Personally id like to see aosp ics first then cm9/miui.
[Motorola Photon 4G] MikeyLee:
ICS will be CM9
[Motorola Photon 4G] kusanagi-sama:
Check this out: http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-ice-cream-sandwich

Also: http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/10/24/ice-cream-and-bootloaders-and-motorola-–-oh-my/
[Motorola Photon 4G] Puzzlegal:
They list some phones (all Verizon phones, I think) in the text that they say they will update to ICS. So it's frustrating for us Sprint/Photon folks to hope and hope. . .

I have no beef with the rest of the article, which clearly articulates the process they plan to follow to implement ICS.
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
Both are 6 week old threads that say nothing relevant ....

.... what's your point? :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
actually if you look they list the xoom (their teir 1 tablet) and all the omap4 cpu phones.. the moto razr (android version) isnt a verizon phone :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
I smell a pay off.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Well look the they put it out there now so anyone can't say anything I have seen literally a dozen port of every other phone except the photon I mean come on ppl there has gotta be someone out there to work this one out there for us
[Motorola Photon 4G] yglup:
True sh!t ! Outta every phone i've owned, this one is the best specwise! But i cant understand why there's no devs. Wish i was a little better at coding, cuz I'd be on ICS!
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
We be all busy and stuff. Plus our evil waiting makes more devs
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Everybody is developing for the Epic 4G touch
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Still I feel as if our lovely photon will get no love from devs
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Its not
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
No love at all
[Motorola Photon 4G] roundeye1987:
Not sure if serious..?

Sent from my CM7 Unlocked Electrify.
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
i actually requested xda shut down the dev section.. dont want to mislead people into thinking there may be something there
[Motorola Photon 4G] KTT16:
F*** ignorant people. If they are un happy with this kick ass phone and the amazing work that's been done here, then they should gtfo, and switch phones.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
dude seriously calm down no one here said they were unhappy with the phone stop misinterpretating what ppl are saying we are just talking about ICS stupid
[Motorola Photon 4G] KTT16:
im tired of people *****ing and complaining about how "we don't have enough of this that and the other", "no roms, no devs, etc." im grateful and thankful that we have devs, and great ones at that. When people whine about no devs, they are complaining about their phones at the same time.
[Motorola Photon 4G] dsims7_2000:
Well said! You can read my thoughts here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1393777
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
You could always try, not all of us have 20 hours a day to work on this stuff. Im lucky if i get a couple hours a week.
[Motorola Photon 4G] FrameCityJackal:
Please don't make this into the Epic 4G forums. We lost some good Devs to BS and especially when this one guy came back starting **** about CQID....Joker is right Devs are Joe Everyman day job(s) lives families etc.....
[Motorola Photon 4G] naturecannon:
Your complaining posts are just as bad as the posts you are criticizing.

I dont see the "MOFO wants and wishes posts", that seem to be annoying to you, very destructive nor warrant your attitude. Whats wrong with wishful discussion and thoughts here on the forum?? I guess you could follow your own advice if you dont like the posts and STFU and pass the thread or GTFO off the forum. Obviously you cant handle the forum scene and/or need a few more years of maturity under your belt. Food for thought and Just sayin. :p
[Motorola Photon 4G] KTT16:
are u kidding me?! There have been so many posts asking why there is lack of development for this phone, when there clearly is...i think there are a lot of ungrateful people out there, and i am merely pointing out that people should read about the progress this phone has gone through and think twice before making a comment like "where are the devs, or when is this ROM going to be available."

I don't understand how you can defend such ridiculous statements...
[Motorola Photon 4G] Dsparil:
Coming from the Epic 4G which has a lot development, I feel that the development here is plenty enough. I mainly root and flashed roms to fix bugs that are on stock (GPS and Wifi issues on the Epic), get the latest Swype, and roam control for when I'm in the basement at work. I was also hoping on Cyanogen since gingerbread is most likely the last official update for the Epic.

The only thing holding the Photon back is not having 4G while being unlocked, and I'm hoping that Motorola will release an official unlocker eventually, and the we can get Cyanogen without losing 4G.
[Motorola Photon 4G] kennypow3rs:
Lmfao I laughed at this for about 3 mins straight I don't know why.
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
So when are we going to get cm7
[Motorola Photon 4G] kennypow3rs:
I had the evo 4G and 3D and i can assure you the photon has all the development it needs. On both those phones I mentioned above there's only 3 roms sense, asop, and miui. 90% of all those roms people speak of are just some individual that takes someone's base, changes icons, re-themes, and they post as their own. How is that development? I can do that with a kitchen matter fact I have. I wouldn't consider myself a dev like most of those turds do or done in the 4G/3D forums. This phone has real devs that are laying the ground work who are actually fixing the few issues we have. There's probably a few guys who can actually accomplish that in the 3D/4G forums but here we have cybik, lokifish, shabby, joker and I'm sure I forgot someone. What else do you people want? Would you like me to take jokers rom use as a base and create 6 different versions of it and pretend like its 6 new roms so people will think "development" is going on?
[Motorola Photon 4G] cornelious2:
Yes.
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
13 versions please
[Motorola Photon 4G] craby1925:
That's adult, just go theme it yourselves than. The only rom to hold your breath for is full functional cm9 or miui.
[Motorola Photon 4G] demonotaku:
When We get Windows Mobile Mango of course :D :D
[Motorola Photon 4G] Android 17:
Damn, I was really hoping for a Stock rom with motoblur removed, Touchwiz added with CM7 elements and add sense widgets while you're at it, why not? =P
[Motorola Photon 4G] FrameCityJackal:
I'm playing with a CM9 ALPHA from the THUNDERBOLT. Barely anything works but none the less ICS is going to be a game changer
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Well look regardless of what was said its still your opinion. If you don like what being said don't reply we as people of this forum have the right to talk about what we please without people like you chasing away other because you wanna be a internet gangster and just leave ppl alone if you don't have anything positive to contribute
[Motorola Photon 4G] KTT16:
The reason I am annoyed is because the ungratefuls haven't learned yet how to be patient with our fantastic development team. When we get a bunch of people in here asking for ETAs and making comments about how development is lacking, it is a huge insult to our devs and other people working on this phone to make it the best it can be. Why is that so hard to understand? I think prior to posting another ETA comment, or lack of dev comment, people should think about what this phone would be like if we had absolutely no development at all.

Be thankful for what you have, because there are a few people in here that are busting their asses on top of their regular jobs to keep you happy. Or, why don't you learn how to create ROMs, port ROMs, and THEMEs or at the least lend a hand and make SOME positive contribution to the community.

Sure this is a forum where people can freely express their ideas, and thoughts. But think about your comment before posting because I'd rather have it hurt the freeloaders than our developers.
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Good ****
[Motorola Photon 4G] sky24987:
offical rom maybe later, but cm will give us more
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Well honestly my intention was not to a fend any devs or devs looking to get into the photon scen. I do appreciate all of what devs has done for the photon to but I said this on another thread I may not post as much but I fallow the phone Dev work as close as I can and I have seen anything new so my inquiry was like what about 4.0 ics I mean I see on every phone on here is there someone working on it we went searching for it didn't find anything. To try and cut things short your right and I'm right free loaders should gtfoh and we should have more respective towards devs daily life's but I feel as If what I said on here was Dec bashing at all but more of wondering if we were ever gonna get a taste of ics at all official or unaffical. To any devs again my intention was never to insult you nor bash you works and for that I truly am sorry if anyone took it as that
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
Hi - just a shout-out to the devs to say Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

Back in the day, I did embedded real-time control systems in assembly language, so I have some appreciation for the complexities off what you all are doing (but without the current knowledge to contribute anything at all). So ....

..... I'll lurk and know that it'll come when it comes......
[Motorola Photon 4G] lucidvtec:
Assembly ....hardcore! !!
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Have you thought about helping with webtop?
[Motorola Photon 4G] willysp:
Indeed! Favorite part of my career.

Very short version of fav story -- regional TV switching network, I wrote control system, my system crashed intermitently during stress testing while processing interrupts, so I hook up signal generator to simulate interrupts, figure out from timing that I wasn't properly queueing pending interrupts while processing one, fixed my logic, then could crank up signal gen freq to forever and beyond -- never again a crash!

---------- Post added at 12:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:49 AM ----------

Yes, I've thought about getting involved, but unfortunately spend 80-90% of my time traveling outside the US doing consulting, and just have no time.

A big reason I got the Photon originally is that, like my old WinMo Touch Pro 2, it has GSM support - much better to buy a local SIM card in Asia and pay $0.06/minute to call the US than Sprint's $2.99. Only time I paid $2.99 rate was for a 3-minute call from Paris.

I may be back in the US in mid to late Jan - perhaps then.
[Motorola Photon 4G] lucidvtec:
My older bro and dad are old skool programmers...I remember back in the day

My dad telling me if they didn't know assembly then they wernt anyone ...lol.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Well does anyone know if there is anyone will to work on a port for our phone
[Motorola Photon 4G] Kcarpenter:
A port for ics? Its already being quietly worked on.

Sent from my Photon.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
seriously do you know who's working in it specifically
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
My guess would be someone who works on cm -roms
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Well I hope someone has made progress with it
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
I got inside word some of y'all lying
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Who?
[Motorola Photon 4G] foxsdaddy67:
say what? :confused:
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
OK what are you talking about
[Motorola Photon 4G] bricky23:
Lexluger82:p HeHe
[Motorola Photon 4G] rrockstar.kidd:
Don't worry, I tell you sir it shall be within a month or so...tell sprint to stop trying to figure out ics and how to lock down everything Google is going to allow you to touch....If my sources are correct which they have never been unreliable before, update should be out by Feb, chill enjoy the holidays...juss saying it may be your last if you believe in the Mayans and whatnot ;-)

Edit:Also remembered one last thing which is moto is waiting on Jan to hit so USCC and Sprint announce the building and expanding of 4G networks and I think ics update holds the key for the official upgrade which there holding back on so by the time those phone sees a update they can get you interested in there all new phone they are about to release which will come 4.0 stock lmao have fun trying to change it....its all a marketing strategy

Sent from my Motorola Electrify
[Motorola Photon 4G] Dsparil:
Motorola would look really bad to not upgrade their only flagship phone on Sprint.
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Everybody that's making threads on here saying, " I got inside word". If you don't have proof its just lies.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Well lets hope your right about the update
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Well considering i also got an engineering build, something only someone at moto can get. Maybe my inside source doesnt need proof.
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
True but we gotta look at the fact that we still haven't seen anything looking from the outside is a different story. I mean I'm not trying to take credit away from you or hurt your reputation I'm just saying. Tho I do appreciate the work your putting in for us here
[Motorola Photon 4G] KTT16:
Jesus Christ.(rolling eyes)...mas...happy holidays joker..thanks for everything.
[Motorola Photon 4G] iservin:
From what I've heard...

First of all, hello MoPho's! I just got a photon for Christmas, and of course since I've already had ICS rocking on my HTC hero for a few weeks, I expected this one to have Rom's a-plenty rocking around the xda forums. It seems that's not the case, which is a little disappointing, but this phone is still wonderful.

Anyways, I talked to a couple sprint reps today on the phone, via chat, and in-store and they all told me that, yes, an ICS update was going to happen sometime next year, but they don't have an ETA and that I should watch sprint.com/news for a press release when it does happen, so I suppose that's good news, although I really can't wait, ICS is splendid. I wouldn't take this as gospel, because when I talked to the salesman at my local store about the bull**** that is the WiMax rollout (or lack thereof) he told me not to worry since it has LTE too and will work when Sprint finally rolls that out by 2013. I didn't believe him, and of course I looked that up and it's LTE chip is 100% imaginary.

Anyways, I'm glad to be a new member of the moPho community, and I really love my phone despite it's shortcomings.
[Motorola Photon 4G] radrian92:
If that were true than I wouldn't need a new phone till 2013 :cool:
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Ha Ha
[Motorola Photon 4G] Lokifish Marz:
Info coming from those sources is ALWAYS suspect. Think of it this way, I actually write some of the android advanced service procedures for my region. I also knew that Sprint had the first major update for the mopho almost 3 months prior to the phones release. The MoPho is getting ICS? Not according to any Sprint documentation I seen. Now I'm not saying that the mopho will never get ics or moto does/doesn't already have something in the works but a Sprint sales/support/customer service person would be the LAST person to know.

Remember, these are the same people that tell Evo users that defective charge ports are an asurion claim.
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Good point
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Would anyone get mad if i was about to flash ics
[Motorola Photon 4G] 0mfgroflmao:
That's awesome! didn't think anyone has ICS that far along :D
[Motorola Photon 4G] ferretman61:
just a feeling i have but dont think we will get ics
[Motorola Photon 4G] FrameCityJackal:
? We now have a aplha of CM9 and we may actually get official in February or whenever....either way we have ICS now...:confused:
[Motorola Photon 4G] demonotaku:
Joker already said he heard from a source he has - who been giving him hints, we are getting ICS and the next one Jelly Belly Brand Jelly Beans!
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Could you show us a screenshot of it plz
[Motorola Photon 4G] jrebo:
Flashing it is better than photos.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Kcarpenter:
Very Very few android devices ever receive 2 major updates.
[Motorola Photon 4G] demonotaku:
My Mytouch had 1.5 by default and got 1.6 and 2.2. Didn't the Photon come with 2.3?
[Motorola Photon 4G] tonyis3l33t:
hxxp://community.sprint.com/baw/message/373140#373140

Take with a grain of salt, the user only has one post. Like the rest of us, I'm just trying to find reason to hope =)
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
We all need to be able to. Just to believe you
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
Well that's not an issue anymore they have multiple alpha builds now so this thread is erelavent
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Alpha builds and a working build are not the same
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Alpha builds work. Just not everything. Considering what we have to work with we have one of the best ics roms out, not including google phones. Data, phone, 2d/3d kinda, wifi, gps, proximity sensor, barely any force closes, mms now, and more. Videos can be viewed third party and the camera doesnt work. Once i start building ill work on the camera and other issues. So i think we can safely say we have ics.
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
yea camera is my top priority i miss it :/
[Motorola Photon 4G] roundeye1987:
Its literally the only reason I'm not using it as my daily! I can live with iffy 2d/3d and using 3rd party to play videos, but I gotta have my camera! Lol

Sent from my CWM OC'd CM7 Electrify.
[Motorola Photon 4G] jokersax11:
Once i get it to compile everything right its mine too
[Motorola Photon 4G] LexLuger82:
Any progress?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Jungle Jack:
Hello,

I honestly think the Photon will indeed get ICS. I say this primarily due to Motorola's and Sprint's renewed commitment to each other and the Photon being a Flagship Device that is still relatively new.

The fallout from Motorola not releasing ICS on the Photon would pretty much alienate all Photon Owners from purchasing another Motorola Handset on Sprint.

At least I never would. And needless to say it has more than enough power to run ICS.

Cheers,

JJ
[Motorola Photon 4G] ryuken11221:
I see your point but when it breaks down to it were still getting cm9 so ha that that sprint and Motorola
[Motorola Photon 4G] ericdabbs:
But the big problem like me and probably some other people have is that..its great that CM9 will have support for the Photon but I care about losing the 4G connectivity that is currently not fixable.

I have held off unlocking the bootloader because I do not want to lose my 4G Wimax connectivity. We all know how crappy Sprint's 3G network is currently. Until the CM9 team can crack the Wimax dilemma, I want to hold off on trying out CM9. If Sprint's 3G network speeds were halfway decent, I wouldn't mind giving up 4G and trying out CM9 since the battery life when using 3G and 4G is pretty big I think.
[Motorola Photon 4G] o1e63:
^ If you are under the unlimited everything plan, you can switch 3G to roaming mode... much better 3G coverage.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Miniassassin23:
i say that u unlock the bootloader and load cm9 cause its blazing fast with only a couple of bugs