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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qreffie:
Was there any word from them on the Nexus S? I remember reading from Google that initial release would be optimized to run on T-Mobiles 3G, but I don't remember hearing anything from T-Mobile about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Come on tmobile I need it unlocked for simple mobile : D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kampf:
I'd be game for the UK version, but at over $800USD after the exchange rate...

I'll stick with the Nexus S until it's either offered at Verizon and I can buy it outright and get an unlock code for another $35, or hope that the all-hands on the 19th at T-Mo stores has something to do with this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nexus14:
I don't think the UK version will have T-mobile bands (1700/AWS). Just because it's GSM doesn't mean it works on T-mobile's 3G network. For example, the AT&T iPhone is GSM and it doesn't work on T-mobile 3G because it lacks the AWS bands

edit:

I also want to add a little tidbit. As far as high-end smart phones go, there's only been one phone manufacturer (besides Nokia) who has been keen on including T-mobile's AWS bands. T-mobile's 3G bands are just so uncommon in the world that phone manufacturers don't bother. Fortunately, HTC has recently been using Qualcomm MSM 8260 chipset which includes a ton of 3G including support for T-mobile's 3G. That's why imported phones from the the UK like the HTC Sensation or HTC Incredible S work on T-mobile's 3G.

HOWEVER, the Galaxy Nexus does not use that chipset so it's unlikely that the UK version will work for us T-mobile users in the US. Samsung will have to make a special variant of the Galaxy Nexus that includes AWS
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
Nexus 14. They my be wrong, but the preorder sites I looked at today, it has t mobile bands
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qreffie:
According to the FCC it does support the AWS band unless there are two HSPA+ versions (which would be incredibly foolish for Google/Samsung considering it's way cheaper to just make the two versions)

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/10/t-mobile-att-ready-galaxy-nexusnexus-prime-passes-through-fcc/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vash63:
The Galaxy Nexus specs out everywhere show the GSM variant including AWS bands. There are only two versions, a CDMA/LTE and a GSM... and the GSM one is pentaband. This is also confirmed through the FCC filing from last month.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Luxferro:
Neither of the first 2 Nexus's were sold by the carriers. Nexus One was sold by Google, and Nexus S was sold exclusively by Bestbuy (for t-mobile version, and it wasn't until later that sprint came out with the 4G verson). So you can't really compare it to past releases.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nexus14:
very intriguing. i wonder why the 2100 AWS bands are omitted. doesn't the FCC test 2100 band since it's used within the US?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] GatorsUF:
I am on Verizon, but I hope Tmobile gets the GNex. Gotta have a good dev community :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vash63:
I don't think the FCC is concerned with Rx bands.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lil Jones:
I think we will see the t-mobile version in one form or another. I myself hope I can get it subsidized. My grandmother needs a phone so i am going to pick it up for the line and put a dumb phone on it for her.

I get a new nexus and get to be a good grandson at the time.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fdm1:
For what it's worth, this article (http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/hands-on-ice-cream-sandwich-review-1036402) shows T-Mobile in the pull-down...look about a third down the page in the "Notifications" section of the review.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] theearthisflat:
Could be tmobile UK
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
Nah, that phone number is a US number. Probably just an unlocked GSM review model with a T-Mobile SIM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nexus14:
So you're going to add a line, get a Nexus and pay the $30 data/mo on her line as well as the $30 data/mo on your line?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hellcatrydr:
The TMo GN at 1700 is 4G, right?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
Yes tmo uses 1700, and 2100
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ljwnow:
That's not a good grandson at all. Lmao
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] farfromovin:
Scientific proof lol :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
They use the combination of 1700 and 2100 together for up/down, as compared to other parts of the world that use them separately.

Either way, yes, the Galaxy Nexus has pentaband HSPA+, and will support the AWS bands (1700/2100) that T-mo uses for HSPA+.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wu_wei_lion:
Just preordered the UK version of this puppy on clove UK

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Did I mention anything about the UK?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] takgeun68:
No doubt Tmo will get the Galaxy nexus as in unlocked GSM band for it supports tmobile band..I am expecting to see them at the best buy like the nexus S...so dont worry tmo users! I passed SGII and Amaze for this, must have it! I just hope its around 500.....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lil Jones:
I will get it added to my line. The agent who will do it is my friend so I am just getting the 30 dollars for add her line. The data plan will be on my line as always.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Juls317:
Anyone heard of any news on a tmobile release?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SubyWill:
Not yet, we're all still waiting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
It'll be news. They won't try to stealth it out lol.

I'm really not worried though... gonna just buy the unlocked one anyways. Unlocked ftw....

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There is one GSM version. Its Pentaband HSPA+. It has AWS. It'll work pretty much anywhere in the world.

The reason why most modern phones (you pointed out the GSM iPhone) don't work on AWS T-mo is because they're only quadband, and drop AWS in order to support AT&T in the USA, and the European standard bands.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vash63:
I'm still worried, because I can't find anywhere to buy it unlocked without importing from Europe... I don't care about subsidies, I just want to know where and when for the GSM version.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Well they've announced nov 17th unlocked in Europe. Still a couple weeks for them to announce the unlocked one here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nory82688:
That's what I'm going to do, import it from the UK. As long as it works with T-Mobiles hspa+ network I'm fine. I want to have it on launch day, and the only way that will happen it seems is If I import. T-Mobile will probably sell it in middle of December or January I'm thinking, just because they've been so quiet on the subject. But either way, I'm not going to let them hold me back, I want this phone pretty badly. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vash63:
Importing sucks though because warranty or repair issues are a ***** and you have to pay like 40% more. Especially with the weak dollar we have, importing from anywhere in Europe seems like a bad idea to me. I don't care about the subsidy but I'd really rather buy locally.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nory82688:
One last thing, does anyone know what carrier in the UK I'd have to buy my galaxy nexus from to work on T-Mobiles hspa+ ? Only reason I ask is because the galaxy nexus has like 5 different versions all with different serial numbers, and I'm afraid ill buy it from the wrong carrier or get an incompatible version where it doesn't work at all or I'm stuck on edge lol I want to make sure itll work for the hspa+ here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] clearym:
I'm pretty sure there are only 2 versions, the HSPA+ version, and the LTE version. The HSPA+ version is supposed to have a pentaband antenna that will work on most carriers in the world, including T-mobile and At&t in the US...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] _illmatic_:
Yeah, there are only two ver. LTE and HSPA+. Pentaband for both Tmobile and AT&T in the states or LTE which is prob gonna release through Verizion locked.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
You buy the only GSM version available. Its pentaband HSPA+ and will work on pretty much any GSM network in the world (yes, even 3G on AWS freq on T-mobile).

If I were you I'd hold off on importing. You're going to end up paying a lot more, and the phone doesn't come out in Europe for another 16 days. Give it some time.

You got it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Spunix:
Well here is my take on this... remember The SGSII just came out for T-Mo / Sprint / AT&T and Samsung doesn't want to stifle those sales... One thing I did see today in Target was $30 off a T-Mo SGSII, $199 w/ 2 year contract, so I think it's a inventory prep sale because of the pending Galaxy Nexus...

Outside of phreaks like us, not too many people are aware of the Nexus line and what it brings, they just buy what's heavily advertised and right now, that's the SGSII and HTC Amaze for T-Mo...

It will be here this month...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Tmo does not sell nexus in stores sprint does
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
I think what he was trying to say is that they may be lowering some prices of SGSII phones. Some people think that the Galaxy Nexus will be actually supported and subsidized by all (or at least 3) carriers unlike previous versions (and no, sprint selling a locked Nexus 6 months later doesn't count).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Drzfr3shboialex:
Oh ok lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qreffie:
You could actually get the Nexus S subsidized from Best Buy when it came out because they're a T-Mobile reseller. T-Mobile just didn't sell it in their stores. The N1 was the only one you had to pay retail for.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Yes. Very true. You could have signed up for a contract via best buy. But they did sell it unlocked also. And unlocked in the rest of the world.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nory82688:
Ok thanks. And you're right, ill hold off for a little while to see if there is any other updates before I throw down that amount of money importing. I'd rather buy in the states anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BiGMERF:
i dnt expect it will hit att/tmobile until Jan at the earliest.. If Verizon payed for exclusivity I would have to imagine that it will last through christmas. Now question is will tmo/att tweak the phone, adding some bloatware. This is why i bought it overseas, i was going to buy it off contract anyway and the price wasnt to bad to import it.. At the very least i am making sure i have 0 bloatware on mines.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dameon87:
There isn't going to be bloatware on a nexus device. Period. If anyone adds bloatware, it will be Verizon and Verizon alone. No nexus device has came with it before, and I doubt they are going to start now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt2053:
Bloatware on a Nexus? No way!

We don't even get the good carrier apps lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BiGMERF:
You guys do realize that sprint tinkered with it by blocking tethering capabilities. I expect the same from tmobile and att.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Verizon and AT&T will definitely block tethering if they subsidize it. As will Sprint.

T-mobile might (assuming they get it subsidized). They didn't block tethering on Nexus S models from Best Buy sold under contract, and didn't block it on the G2 or G2x. T-mo is a little more lax about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BiGMERF:
i guarantee they will block it. watch
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
I'm not so sure. Like I said there have been many phones T-mo sells that have unblocked tethering and they're not even Nexus devices. T-mo is notoriously relaxed about making you pay for tethering.

Not like this really needs to be an argument. There are very few users who will buy a Nexus that isn't unlocked (open tethering) or doesn't root it (which u can then unblock tethering).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lil Jones:
T-mobile didn't block tethering from my LG Optimus T so if they let that fly the nexus is nothing
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BiGMERF:
tmobile has blocked it on everything going forward. it is blocked on the sgs2 and amaze and will be on every phone that is released after those 2. this is why these phones also do not have wifi calling yet. they are doing something internally. if you try to access tehthering it takes you to a web page that says you must sign up for a tethering plan
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Luxferro:
It's not blocked on their end, it's blocked if that have a hand in the software on the said phone.

If Galaxy Nexus is gonna be sold by T-Mobile; if they want they can have google lock it on official roms. If it's sold outside of T-Mobile by a third party, the likely hood of google blocking tethering isn't too high. It wasn't blocked on Nexus S.

Either way, it's not a big deal as soon as AOSP drops and people compile their own builds.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt2053:
It is false that carriers blocked tethering on any Nexus phones. Google made it configurable in AOSP code, the added settings configuration for it that have to be set before building. So they basically gave the carriers the option of making OTA's with tethering on or off.

And, like others have said, T-Mobile seems to not give a **** if you tether.

EDIT: I realize after I wrote this that, yes, the carriers still ultimately blocked tethering. I guess my point is that they did it within the "rules" of AOSP. They didn't do any "after the fact" tinkering or do anything that's not a part of 'pure google' experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
I do see what you were saying, and thanks for the perspective/information. Its not necessarily "carrier firmware", but they're just taking the option to block tethering that they have been given.

It doesn't really matter how it happens though. What it does mean is that when a carrier subsidizes it, they have the opportunity to block tethering if they want, and VZW will. We know Sprint will (if they get it) as they did with the NS. And AT&T will as well. T-mo is the only carrier that doesn't block it on 100% of phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
Verizon's not allowed to block tethering on LTE phones (or at least not when a LTE phone is using the LTE network) due to open access rules on the spectrum they won to roll out LTE. So if they block tethering on the GN you can complain to the FCC, though it's unclear if that'll accomplish anything.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Pretty darn sure they block tethering.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
We need more people writing letters to the FCC!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tidbits:
That isn't going to work... I am willing to bet they won't block it, but reserve the right to charge you based on the agreement you signed as long as they are up front about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Luxferro:
The real crooks here are the carriers. First, pretty much all "umlimited" (<--- that was a typo, but i decided to leave it lol) plans aren't unlimited. They are usually throttled after 2-5GB. If they are selling you data, then it should be up to you how you use it.

I wish the government would do something for actual consumers, and make it against the law to falsely call plans unlimited, and stop letting carriers dictate how you use the data your already paying for.

I await the day that someone makes a dependable VOIP wifi phone so people can ditch cell carriers. Come on google, build VOIP into google voice with the tech you got from gizmo5!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TiltedAz:
You'd still need a carrier and that carrier would compensate by increased gouging of your data plan.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] clearym:
In the US, don't the new Net Neutrality laws that govern ?Block C? go into effect on 11/21? I'm pretty sure the laws apply to VZW LTE, not sure about anything else, but I would love it if the US launch is being delayed because Google has something like Google Voice VOIP ready for when the law goes into effect... Not saying this is the case, though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blunden:
Verizon have a loophole that allows them to do things in the name of "network management".

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...laint-its-not-going-to-do-anything-heres-why/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Luxferro:
Bunch of BS. I really hate politicians and the governments. They're all liars and crooks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
HSPA+42 or 21?

Will the unlocked version of the galaxy nexus support HSPA+ 42? I know that the tmo galaxy s2 version needed a different processor than the international version to support it. I think the international version only supports HSPA+ 21.

Is there any reason to believe that the international Galaxy Nexus HSPA+ phone will only support HSPA+ 21? Maybe someone can explain why there exists a difference based on the phone's internals?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lightning N1:
From the Specs page of GSM Arena the international GN is a 21 Mbps phone

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_nexus-4219.php

Data GPRS Yes

EDGE Yes

3G HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE

WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, dual-band, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot

Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP

Infrared port No

USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
Could be wrong but my understanding is it only has HSPA+ 21mbps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
That was my concern. Thanks martonikaj as well.

Would this be enough of an issue to cause many people here to pass on the unlocked version if tmo doesn't release one that supports HSPA+42? Or is the tmo version, if and when released, even expected to support HSPA+42?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
There won't be a T-mo specific HSPA+ 42mbps version. IF T-mo subsidizes it, it'll just be the same as the unlocked world version.

I'm not worried about it. 21mbps is fine for me. You'll never see that real-world anyways. Would be nice to future-proof with 42mbps though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] matt2053:
21 mbps is plenty for me!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qreffie:
21mbps is more than enough for a phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Lmao. 21 mbps is plenty for most home use and even small loaded network use. Having 42 mbps just in case is kind of pointless. I doubt we'll see lte hit a constant of more than 42 in the next two years.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vzontini:
Heck I think it would be nice to get a *reliable* 2Mbps connection in a T-mobile HSPA+ covered area. I get more like 512Kbps using a Nexus One and the latest OTA pushed radio (5.08). I've gotten 2Mbps but rarely.

Has anyone ever reliably gotten anything close to 21Mbps or 42Mbps on T-mobile or AT&T HSPA?

I've got a Verizon LTE USB broadband modem at work and it can deliver 5Mbps reliably. I've personally had quite a few sessions at 10Mbps too. Compared to T-mobile HSPA the Verizon LTE flies.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Well I may be missing it. I wasn't expecting to get a full 21 or 42 mbps but I was thinking that a 42 mbps phone would have a relatively faster connection than a 21 mbps phone on HSPA+. Is that not generally going to be true if there is a strong signal available?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] clearym:
On my NS, I average 2.8Mbps on T-mobile using the Speedtest.net app with a max DL speed of 4.5Mbps. The speeds on the N1 should be similar. I'm not in a city, so is it possible your speeds are slowed by network congestion?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lorddart:
On sensation i've gotten a little over 11mbps with speedtest I believe...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qreffie:
The nexus 1 and nexus s aren't fully compatible with HSPA+, they only receive a speed boost due to the upgraded backhall from the towers. So you can't judge based off your connection speeds. I've reliably gotten 2-5mbps in my neighborhood with my NS on T-Mobile, but in some parts of Seattle I can barely get 1. That being said I have yet to find a reason to need super fast data speeds on my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] martonikaj:
That stinks. Its all about your area of course. I pull about 5mbps average, up to 10mbps usually. On a T-mo G2 (which has HSPA+ 14mbps).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
I checked out my firends tmob phone a month ago. In houston he was getting 7mbps. But only us nerds know that.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Ok, thanks for the fedback on your actual connect speeds. But I was still hoping that someone could answer the following somewhat hypothetical question. Let me re-phrase it...

If you have a reasonably good hspa+ connection, say like the 10mb connection just mentioned, would one expect to have a higher transmit speed using an hspa+42 than a phone using a hspa+21? And that is with everything else in the two phones the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qreffie:
The 14/21/42mbps ratings are just theoretical speeds. Once a phone is HSPA+ compatible then it's just a matter of how fast of a connection it can handle. For example, I believe the NS is only rated for 7mbps from any source. I have 20mbps through my cable modem but the phone when connected to wifi caps out around 8-9 while my notebook will give me 12-16 on speed test.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Then it would follow that until we actually see connections that exceed 21mb then there shouldn't be any performance differences between the international version and a tmo branded +42 version? (if it existed)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
No performance enhance if your alresdy getting 5 from your isp/carrier on a 21mbps phone and you switch to a phone capable of 42. Youre limited to your connection more than what your phone is capable. The speeds might change if you were at your threshold. Maybe. But at this point in time you really dont need more than a 21mbps phone.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NCguy:
Great. Thanks for clearing that up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
I get 5 Mbps down and 2 Mbps consistently on ATT here in socal. pretty constant in my area...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Yeah i get 5+ in low congestion on atnt. When it is peak time my data rates are all over the place. I get dropped to edge sometimes at peak.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qreffie:
Me too with T-Mobile. I doubt having a HSPA+ capable device will change that either. The real thing we should all be wanting to upgrade is the reliability of our cellular data connections. What good is a 42mbps phone if it can't reliably hit at least 8mbps all the time in a good coverage area? I'd gladly pay my carrier an extra $30 a month for a guaranteed 5mbps at all times.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bmerz:
Take the following with a huge grain of salt...

I spoke with someone a couple of weeks ago, that has a very close connection with someone that works for Google - and according to the Google employee...

The Galaxy Nexus for T-Mobile, will be as follows...

1) Launch sometime in January

*This is plausible, as I could see Verizon asking for exclusivity through the holidays. Of course I'd like to see this bad boy WAY before January (like tomorrow)! ;)

2) Will be a 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon

*This is also plausible, due to Exynos not supporting HSPA+ 42 (only 21), which is why the SGS 2 has Snapdragon. Also since we saw during the Google/Samsung event HSPA+ 42, this could very well be the case.

3) The T-Mobile version of the Galaxy Nexus will only have a 4.3" screen, instead of the 4.6".

*This is a little harder to believe (IMO), given how proud Google and Samsung were over the beautiful screen on a larger display, during the event. So I honestly cannot see this getting "watered down" (so to speak), for the T-Mobile/AT&T version.

Of course I have no clue if any of the above info is true or not, so take it for what it is, and with a BIG grain of salt at this point. Anyway that's all I've heard so far, but I guess time will tell...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ruthlesset:
Thanks for atleast letting us know about this though it's really hard to believe this.

If the GN GSM version supports tmo's 3G I'm going to buy it. i don't think I can wait till Jan.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] itsjusttim:
Same here... dumb to wait till January.