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[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
nope, sorry.

nope, full fat gb sense.

I just find that LP on these gb sense roms actually runs much faster than the native sense launcher does as long as LP is the default launcher and you reboot (to ensure rosie doesn't load by default).

I also find it makes things more efficient if I remove all rosie widgets like calendar/agenda widget. otherwise it seems to load them in the background sometimes. however that could just be my imagination that it helps - it's possible that it loads things like that in the background whether or not I remove the widgets from rosie.

PS: Rosie is the sense launcher's actual name.

Interesting coincidence since this rom is called Rose. No doubt your daughter will be called Rosie as a nickname during different points in her life :-)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lirasina:
I did strip the sense stuff but then I noticed that there are performance drops every now and then... me no like so I am not gonna post it. cuss it is unstable with nonstop performance drops.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
That was my concern..... strip out too much and things start getting buggy.

I dont know enough to know whats integral to the basic function and whats just an ancilliary apk that can be binned.

I suppose I could freeze Sense widgets etc via TB but thats quite a long winded stab in the dark approach. Chances are it'll be ok for 24 hours then given the right circumstances.... stop running and I dont know where the issue comes from.

Anyone point me in the direction of a particularly mimimal Sense rom so I can have a play with LP?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bharat_goku:
m running a new build now,added in alotta tweaks i found at various forums.....

also added in juwe's ram script.....m getting about 50 mb+ram all the time so that feels good,its a bit lighter than rose 4 but not the lightest of the build m hoping issues are minimal cos i've only tested it for abt 10 minutes despite flashing it abt 16 hrs back xD

i've added in some net tweaks from v6 supercharger of zeppelin

and juwe11's ram script

also fixed low memory killer issues used by sfm

removed some extra apps in hope to reduce strain on memory

flashing said he might make an incremental update soon so waiting for that....

by the way i looked in for froyo sense roms except exenergy espresso by PM grands there aint anything worth getting here,

i did port a wildfire rom but it needs alotta re-sizing which i don't have time for :(

if u guys want i'll port PM grands but i'll say herolatte is way better anyway simply because erasmux is THE best!

either ways we might not ever see a froyo sense port so getting to work smooth is my priority.....

the best froyo sense port we have is chocolate sense despite camera n bluetooth not working but its stable for daily use......i believe of all the froyo sense ports our gsm dev radug did the best port!

and i recommend u guys to download root app remover from the market,really helpful app to delete system apps with ease,
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] zmen:
Hello! Plase add more language like Hungarian.

THX
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bharat_goku:
any feedbacks on rose v4.5?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lutchezar:
for V4: Juwe's ram script caused no in/out voice in phone during calls after using any camera software for taking picture. that was the reason i removed the script. Will try 4.5 later.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] schlehdorn:
will try it later today. at the moment im at work.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bharat_goku:
Didn't find d error yet,try a clean wipe just incase I've rebuilt it using wildheroc as base instead of the older builds as base,
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lirasina:
RaduG indeed did. Still want to get the camera and the BT on that one working, Then we get the best one ever :O
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
Booting V4.5 now..... will have a fiddle and report back.

Keen to see how it goes with LP since Don suggested it as well.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
can someone please tell me what's the point of having a Sense rom on the phone if you are not using the default Launcher and Widgets ?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
Its been noted that Rose V4 was running particularly fast when Launcher Pro Plus was used as the Launcher instead of Sense.

Might not seem like a sensible thing to try but if stability, speed and customisation are the main features you are looking for.... it ticks all 3 box's. Launcher Pro has a few widgets that allow you to get the benefit of the extra speed and still get a sense look/feel.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] schetz:
well, launcherpro is more configurable, nicer app drawer etc..

but dialer that comes with sense has been more stable than any other for me..:)

and nicer
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
+1 to all that.

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I've noticed that trying to add the sense weather clock to the homepage doesn't work straight away. I had to try 3 times before it worked...... same problem others reported and I experienced with SalsaSense. Its not something I do much of so as long as it works.... I dont mind doing it 3 times.

CPU set to just 518/352 SAv2 so its not too quick when 1st installed. Upped to my usual (652/264) and its much better.

Camera zoom still not working..... and camera FC when I tried to switch to Camcorder. After FC.... camera will not open up...... 1/2 second od black then returns to app list.

This is all on a fresh install with Factory/cache etc cleared.

Just installed Camera360 to see if that would work and it "cannot connect to camera.... please restart your phone and try again".

Selecting Slate skin makes no difference to the displayed skin.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bharat_goku:
Strange my camera works fine,try deleting camera360 n restarting device,

Slate skin has to be moved to system/app folder for use,

M interested to know performance of the ROM,better than v4??

Also is receiving calls better?n cutting calls?

N free ram on phone?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
Tried removing cam360 n rebooting but still the same.

Gps is slow to connect but eventually found a good signal.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
cool, will try this soon.

in the meantime I've been running erasmux's froyo sense rom herolatte and it's really good once it gets going.

things I did to make herolatte better (just as an end user):

in first boot it asks what them to choose - I chose the one iwth the yellowy background that looks like a cathedral. I used to choose default. This isn't relevant to making life any better with this rom, but I wanted to point out that the feature is cool and works well.

market ran like crap for the first few hours - downloads took forever and installs never took place. after trying that for a while I finally rebooted and life got way better. not sure if that was coincidence (like market just started working well at that point) but have faith that the market can and will eventually work really well on this rom.

first successful download from market was file expert (this rom has no file manager by default so I always choose the best free one) and titanium backup.

using tit back I froze market updater because fortunately this rom comes with the imho best versino of the market - the one previous to the current gb greyscale slow yucky thing we all hate so much.

MOST importantly, I installed agile lockscreen. I fully admit that I came into this apk second hand, it was gifted to me through email and not by the developer. So I'm going to assume it's a paid app that I didnt' pay for.

Anyhow I may pay for it if it seems that I'll actually continue using it on a daily basis in the future.

So the point is that Agile Lockscreen is the salsasense lockscreen that runs on ANY rom of any version, not just gb, not just sense. it solves the herolatte unlock problem if you change agilelock's settings for "Fix double lock issue" to "mode three". Then, because I like this appearance better, I go to the bottom of the settings like and "Disable status bar" and change anything else there according to my preferences.

Then start agile lockscreen (the app's buttons should be self explanatory) and voila - no more lockscreen lags in herolatte!

I am not using BT these days, using wired headphone/mic combos instead due to reliability of them and my hatred of using cheap BT headsets and the charging there of.

Herolatte is quite an excellent rom. The camera works very well on it too.

edit: it appears that agile lockscreen app has been removed from the market!? too bad, amazing app. I have the apk. just sayin...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] chrisdolman22:
Installing 4.5 as I type... my VR13 install is becoming horribly buggy recently so hopefully I can make this my everyday ROM :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
V4.5 is running ok. Getting a lot of sense reboots which kinda cancels out any tweaks to speed it up.

Still think v3.5 is the best rose to date.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bharat_goku:
Add the ram manager pro application to ur daily app lineup helps alot
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] emilio666:
Too bad, I need Twitter in friend stream and gtalk and they are not in 4.5 v

I hope they do won't impact too much on overall performance if I install them
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
yea - based on all of the testing I've done over the past couple of years I can conclusively say that removing gtalk, twitter, peep, facebook, or any other similar apps will NOT speed up a slow rom.

it really makes no difference. please stop removing things from the rom. it only saves space in the system partition which shouldn't affect anything anyhow.

if you don't configure the apps then the apps don't run and don't use any memory and have zero chance of slowing anything down.

if you do want the apps then they're there and working and ready to go.

so just leave them in please.

yours truly,

cranky old Don (having a frustrating day LoL)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
4.5 battery use...... I know I have wound up the clock but have gone from full charge at 2.30pm to empty some time between 8 and 9 tonight.

Little use... 10 mins on xda app..... a handfull of emails and no calls.

Wifi is left on (dont know what its sleep policy is) bluetooth, gps both off and middle screen brightness.

Was waiting for a call tonight about 9 only to find the phone battery flat 5 miles from my charger.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] puppyko:
Haha..I missed HeroLatte too.

Interesting find on the lockscreen.

The last time I was using this ROM, Camera worked but Camcorder won't record.

Still hoping someone could continue work on this ROM.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
good call. in herolatte yea video recording is borked with it (app just quits when it tries to start recording).

damn. didn't try taht till you mentioned it.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lirasina:
I am in a battle with Choclate froyo right now. So XD trying to get everything working on that one. But we will see how that turns out.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] emilio666:
The same happened to me :( Battery drop
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] puppyko:
Nice! If you could get everything (camera, bt?) to work...that will be awesome!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] :
Just wanna say V4 is working perfect and I love it so thank you for that. Installed V4.5 last night and realised it didnt have Market on it. Tried a clean install and same problem.

Is everyone experiencing this or is it just me?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
Market was there for me. Either flash the zip again or try flashing the gapps from the op.

sent from HeroDeck using XDA App
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] nicky9door:
I had your issue with the market- somehow it was frozen in titanium backup. Maybe you should check to see if that happened
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
I'm back to rose 3.6. it's better than 4.x and better than sfm for me. just did nandroid restore back to my fully configured 3.6 and wow it's so fast and stable and sweet...

I hope these issues can all be worked out - otherwise maybe 3.6 should be reposted as an alternative working version while 4.x is in development still.

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odd - I tried this in the past with big issues....

but for some reason this time when I got mad at current market and flashed an older version on my 3.6 install and then ran tit back to freeze market updater, it worked!

so far the old market is working perfectly on this rom, where new market is almost completely broken for me currently.

odd, but I'm happy!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
Agree with Don (again).

3.6 was this version at its best....... $.0 and 4.5 are both heavy on battery with a few app/camera issues.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bharat_goku:
I noticed the battery sucks after I updated kernel to 0.6.2 ill try changing back to lv 0.5 in the next version,I still find rose4.5 a bit more stable when it comes to speed
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] puppyko:
Trying RoseV4.5 now.

GB Rose is noticeably really faster and smoother than GB SFM.

However, somethings just work fine in SFM but not Rose.

Things that worked well for me in SFM - Camera, Camcorder, APN, Sygic.

Things that didn't work in Rose, now v4.5 includes:-

1. Missing APN for my region, so had to manually enter APN or use APN backup/restore app.

2. Camera and Camcorder can get 'hang' and warrant a reboot to use again. Also, zooming still not working (SFM zoom works!).

3. Surprisingly, Market in the latest RoseV4.5 is missing. Using Titanium BackupPro, also did not find any Market app or that Market Updater (In some cases, I had to defrost Market Updater inorder for Market to be useable again).

4. Once again, Sygic is not working here (Sygic works fine in SFM) Logcat attached.

Thanks Bharat_Goku for the continued hard work, nevertheless :)
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
I would suggest to anyone who likes Rose rom, stick with V3.6 as the most complete, stable and fast version to date........ based on a survey of everyone on my sofa.

Dev of the newer versions has "unfixed" a few things like camera.

sent from HeroDeck using XDA App
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] mar9118:
Have been using v3.6 for quite sometime now, so far everything works fine except for some HTC widget installation issue and speaker phone activating for a few seconds when answering a call.

Tried v4.5 but Market and other apps was not available, noticed that they were moved from system/app folder to data/app folder in the Rose-V4.5-g0ku!.zip file is there some preparation or tweaks needed to enable app access in the data folder? I tried unzipping the ZIP file, copied system/app contents of v3.6 to v4.5 and removing the data/app folder then re-archiving the ROM file now I get all the missing apps but fc when opening Market.

bharat_goku mentioned that the latest version is more stable when it comes to speed, can anyone confirm if the speaker phone issue was also resolved in the latest version?

Thank you for the great work!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] schlehdorn:
For market issue on v4, i've pushed newest market to system/app and its seems to work. No fc, but laggy as hell.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
yeah, and if you want a faster market, do what I suggested a few posts back (push the older market and then using titanium backup you can freeze "market updater" and you wont' have to worry about it updating to the new crappy market again).
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] schlehdorn:
Tried that and market just fc'ed. Can it be to do something with that fingerprint thingy? :/
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
I have a flashable version of the older market and it works fine.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] schlehdorn:
gimme plzzz :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
:-D

here you go... don't forget to use titanium backup to freeze "market updater" after you flash this. and UNFREEZE it before you flash this (just in case it causes problems otherwise) if you've already been messing with freezing that file...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Darkzy55:
Hey guys, just to let you know about the Market problem (i don't know if there was a fix) but i downloaded the market app from post #60 then go to settings -> apps -> manage apps -> Market -> clear data then i installed this version...

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...te-update-over-wi-fi-only-shortcuts-and-more/

Working fine for me so far ...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
Unless you delete/rename or freeze the market updater apk, the market version you installed will update itself to the latest, laggy grey version.

Find it with root explorer.... System>apps>MarketUpdater.apk
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] absar.shah:
What happened to the thread and Rose development, it seems inactive now

Goku i like your Rose 3.6, using it as a daily ROM, but the 4.x versions need to be optimized/modded

Is a new version under development or your are done... no more roses??

I'm having these issues with 3.6:

Sometimes Wifi activates itself

Initialy it works flawless and responsive, but after like 2 days when I check running apps almost all of them are restarting even though there is 30+MB Memory is available and overall its laggy. Screen shots attached.

Gtalk FCs when i end a chat, or play with settings

While on Handsfree the other party doesnt hear me
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
damn, who needs a light version... this is amazing!

I watch it kill off apps automatically so haven't experienced any sense reloads yet - seems that this rom is actually doing memory management effectively for a nice change compared to the other gb sense roms ppl have tried porting to the hero so far.

Outstanding - the full one with the social media apps etc is so quick and responsive and stable that it feels like a good eclaire sense rom to me.

I'm quite shocked at how good this is.

will be interesting to see how it runs over time and with phone calls etc.

cheers

Don
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
Ive run the test version for the past 12+ hours and its as stable as any other. I have mine set to 652/352 via SetCPU as I always run and its great. I tend to setup my non "sense" roms very similar to stock sense so this feels very familiar.

Will re-flash with the lite version when its here as I'm not a social network user (I put it down to aspergers) and hope the ree'd up ram helps thngs out.

If the camera zoom is an issue for anyone, I recomend Camera360 free or paid. Zoom works well and you have a lot more settings to get good images.

Are the skins selection working yet?.... not that I ever use them.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Lirasina:
I will recreate it when I got some time, wich I do not have now XD so yea XD

I kinda made it a little to slim XD
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bharat_goku:
i aint really sure but i think in the first build n the new build i made then onscreen end call button inactive.....u can cut the call using end call button though....basically i hate it when my calls keep getting cut due to the touch so i preferred to keep it like that....
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] dkelley:
clever idea. that's one area where HTC has always mucked up the hero - specially when the rom is ported from a phone that has an actual proximity sensor I guess.

hopefully that works!

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hey, I pushed the htctwitter.apk from your extra apps zip into /system/app and rebooted. now friendstream actually has a working twitter account AND facebook account!

first time I've had fully working friendstream in as long as I can remember!

YAY for scrollable social networking widgets!

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this rom is basically genirus salsa or salsasense but faster and with fewer (if any) real bugs. camera zoom - wahtever, camera360 is the only camera app to use anyhow on android.

I'll be curious about bluetooth stuff since I use wired headsets now while driving due to the crappy bts I used to use and the annoyance of having to charge bts or have no phone access.

anyone with a car bt system tried this rom yet?

cheers

Don
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
@bharat_goku: how's the new build coming? can't wait to download it when it's released
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bharat_goku:
uploaded :D check OP :D
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
Glad the updtes here.

I just flashed Flykernel13 to see if it has any effect on the test rom.

It does. Phone now will not connect to laptop. Tried settings etc but they just dont talk to each other.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] bharat_goku:
That's strange,its charging?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] SummonerOfDeath:
This is damn fast for a 2.3 ROM, yeah. but i still got no themes support =/ i LOVE the signal strength being splitted into 6 bars as in the screens, but there are just 2 themes coming with this rom which i can't activate (sense fc), there are more in the OP screens; and they haven't 6 signal bars at all :( ... any chance to fix that? apart from that - nice work! :)

EDIT: WTF since i flashed this one i can no longer USB mount my sdcard Oo neither in the rom nor in recovery... what did that one do to my phone??!!!
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
Yup. Charging OK.

Flashing 1.5 now.

Can you tell me if the additional tweaks in the Salsa Sense page will work.

Not keen on the bubbles messaging and the last apps used in notification screen so would like to use the zips provided.

I dont even know why I am asking..... I'm gonna try anyway.

If they are ok.... it might be an idea to offer them as options in the OP as long as JieeHD is credited and happy.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
Flashed Rose 1.5 ... waited to boot and after that :

1. First Impresion regarding the speed is.... WOW!

2. Second Impression regarding the most important thing for me on a rom : The rom has A2SD-EXT support ... so again WOW!

3. Think I'm going to keep this rom for a while :D

1 Question for you guys : LV 0.5.0 with smartass or LX 0.6.2 with smartassV2?
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] slobo2712:
Does anyone have error when open market or only me :)

Edit: Fixed
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] iakeco:
Nice and smooth
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
I'll be going SmartassV2.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
can we get a list of apps that have been removed on Rose 1.5 please? I can see in the Additional Apps zip that there are apps there that can be found in Rose 1.5 so they are not deleted, maybe I've missed some. Thank you once again for the port bharat_goku.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] SummonerOfDeath:
i'm experiencing battery issues with las venturax kernels, so las venturas 0.5 is the one to go for me.

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What the fork... since I flashed this one, i got no USB mount function on my device anymore. in no ROM, in no recovery.

ANYONE HELP??? getting a little desperate right now...
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Prof Peach:
This might be my imagination but in Scenes, the current Sprint setting does'nt feel as fast as the HTC setting, even though it is the same visual setup.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] RiggerofRiV:
How do you fixed it? I can't install anything and after a while I get fc's even after reboot.

Could be a nice rom, but it become unusable with a permanent fc market.
[Hero, G2 Touch Android Development] Ciprilik:
gonna test LX 0.6.2 and see how it goes and if I don't like it then i switch back to LV 0.5.0 ... thank you guys