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[Motorola Droid 3] Hashcode:
Hi Zane,

1. Yes, the bootloader is locked. And more than just the boot partition are signed. Recovery, System and a few others as well. I don't know about encryption support for the OMAP chipsets, but I do know that the chips can enforce the signatures and md5 type verification of partitions. I'm not sure that the Droid 3 is actually making use of this feature. I believe the signature is currently stored in a table on the cdt.bin partition. Several people have tried to edit that partition by hand, erasing the check for signatures on certain partitions and none have been successful.

2. For custom AOSP ROMs we are using a logwrapper hijack to 2nd-init the Droid 3 just like the D2.

3. You are correct. Safestrap uses the /preinstall partition as a 2nd-system. And I'm not sure why it's never been done before, but the idea behind Safestrap is fairly simple:

3a. How do we protect our ability to enter recovery (even after flashing system) when in almost all cases any system flash will over-write the hijack needed to enter recovery in the first place? Flashing a ROM on a locked phone is a touchy issue. And I can't count the # of "I'm bootlooped" or "I'm bricked" posts that you see on these boards because of that. This isn't the case with unlocked bootloaders. They ALWAYS have access to recovery and have a way out. And that makes flashing ROMs alot more fun.

3b. Enter Safestrap which is essentially a 2nd-system Bootstrap. It does the hijack to provide access to recovery and custom ROM booting. The ROMs don't have to worry about it. Safestrap is still in very early stages. The interface isn't as easy as it should be to use. I'll work on that as I get more time.

3c. You bring up a good point about "data". MotoBlur and CM7 have very different sets of userdata, and in some ways they're incompaible. Moto likes to throw security information on the /data partition in various spots and CM7 obviously doesn't do that. I have actually hung at the boot when swapping systems and not changing my user data around. I know there's a video of Deodexed doing this exact thing on his Bionic, but in most cases you can't just "flip the switch" on 2nd-system and boot up correctly. Currently, in Safestrap you need to backup your current ROM's data and then restore/wipe the data you want for the new ROM your going to. This process is time consuming and will be ironed out with the next release. It will perform a mini system-specific backup/restore of just userdata when you enable/disable the 2nd-system. I would have stuck the 2nd-system data on another partition ... if we had another spare one to use.

4. This is the current "default" setup for Safestrap. MotoBlur on the primary system and people are testing CM7 on the 2nd-system. You can download the files here:

http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/10/beta-testing-safestrap-w-cm7.html

5. The fastboot oem unlock command doesn't work. Been tried.

6. BP = Baseband Processor. "BP-Tools mode" is special boot mode which opens access to the BP via Motorola Software and a USB cord. Most will never use it.

EDIT: Sorry for the wall of text.. good questions.
[Motorola Droid 3] jjhiza:
-delete- realized Hashcode gave a far better response that I could even dream up. :)
[Motorola Droid 3] ZaneKaminski:
That was the best answer to any question (or, well, a bunch of questions) I've read in a long time. Thanks so much.

-Zane
[Motorola Droid 3] Willis111:
Such good questions and such a good response are worthy of a sticky/faq imo
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] rgregg504:
I am running stock rooted ROM on my Epic Touch. Does anyone have any idea why my xda app is force closing. It mostly happens when I try to subscribe to a favorite. But haa occurred occasionally while just browsing forums
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baal_zebub:
hello,

as far i know the battery life on raph is that bad because of the LCD-driver. since nobody knows how to switch the LCD off - and back on again - the LCD is just dimmed - but stays on.

... of course this consumes battery a lot ...

i'd like to help - if i can ?

- i am a developer (but never developed for (xd)android so far)...

- i have a raph

- i have basic (xd)android knowledge

can somebody tell me, where to start ?

what exactly do we need ? the correct hardware registers / arm-code to handle it ?

Wouldn't it make sense to try on WM first - developing arm-code - without win-api of course.

WM has one advantage: i can test faster - since i don't have to reboot to android all the time.

so i need:

- i need to know, what the xdandroid developers already know about this topic - as far i know, they have the code to switch off - but not to switch on.

- i need a quickstart guide how to setup a "xdandroid development environment".

thank you!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] faregran:
Some thoughts

Baal, good look with your try. I'm sure many people will pray for your success -I'm one of them.

I don't have enough time to try to do that, but I spent many hours thinking about the problem. What I'ld do is:

Try to capture all the operations that WM does diring a sleep-on/sleep-off process, specifically registry modifications, internal calls, etc. Also try to save the status before and after, in case they depend on some kind of previous initialization.

I'm not sure if developers didn't get that information or do have it but didn't know how to implement it. Ask in the XDandroid development list.

If you have to do that, maybe you can use some kind of emulator, but probably you'll need to get a system debugger on your phone.

Modify the android module to do the same operations.

Here, both XDandroid Development List or other android developers should help you a lot.

In this part, you'll have to reboot many times...

Good luck! And keep us informed, please.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] arrrghhh:
Well, this is a kernel issue. Unfortunately there's no "how-to" on the kernel sources...

The Getting the Source page is about the system image unfortunately.

Here's the GIT repo for the kernel code.

As for the rest of it, I don't know how to help you. I don't know how they shut the panel down, and as you know, no one actually figured out how to shut the screen back down. Hopefully someone else chimes in about the other information you requested.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kelleci:
Please keep us updated...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] faregran:
Hi, Baal_zebuz

I know it's been a short time since your intentions were declared, but, do you still keep them and you're working on it, or you already abandoned the idea -no matter the reasons, time, difficulty, etc.? Just to keep the hope's flame lighting or switch it off.

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheXeno:
Uhm... I use xdandroid in Raph100 and if the chargher is disconnected, the backlight os turning off after few seconds. I've downloaded the last one from xdandroid.com

Maybe I am OT, in this case I apologize :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] arrrghhh:
Brightness is set to 0 and the backlight is shut off. Unfortunately the panel itself is still drawing power, and sucking battery life. No one has sorted out the proper kernel code to deinit/reinit the panel.
[HTC Sensation] dogntbone:
Hi all,

I am rather new moving from a HD2 to a sensation now... May I just ask if it is normal for Sense 3.5 ROMs to give you a low in-call volume... on top of that, there is this robotic/metallic sound when i hear my friend speak to me...

I didn't stay on stock long enough so I cannot remember if the stock had this issue...

What are the chances of this being a hardware issue?
[HTC Sensation] dogntbone:
Hi all,

Please take some time to read this cuz I reverted back to stock and all, but it proved that it wasn't a hardware issue. I was and am using Insertcoin sense v3.3.7 and it has low in call volume. No one able to replicate this?
[Android Apps and Games] rascarlo:
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Let us know what you think.

Have fun!

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[Android Apps and Games] spolfliet:
I must say this is an amazing, beautiful app!

Browsing reddit is a real pleasure now
[Android Apps and Games] rascarlo:
Thank you! more updates and features to come: we are on a roll to make this apk even better!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] junpeikawada:
I wanna ask what are the differences between BehradGH's CyanoAce and Kang Build and which is better? I have seen the 2 builds but I am still deciding which CyanoAce build should I install. help me guys sort this one out. thanks.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 General] consegregate:
Pointing to one would be at the expense of the other developer. So, try both.
[HTC Incredible S] Lukas1212:
Do you think that HTC Incredible S will get official update to Andorid 2.3.5?
[HTC Incredible S] scoobysnacks:
Sense 3 you mean?

It should considering the desire s already has...

If it doesn't this will be my last HTC.

I run cm 7.1 anyway but regardless I don't like companies that don't support their products.
[HTC Incredible S] Lukas1212:
Yes, I mean also Sense 3.0

I ask because on this list is not. (htc-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/previsions-mise-a-jour-sfr-android.png)
[HTC Incredible S] scoobysnacks:
Yeah I can't see them updating the desire s and desire hd and neglecting us though..
[HTC Incredible S] lundberg512:
Wouldnt be surpriced if they dont....i think inc s was caught in the middle between dhd and sensation hopefully we get updates of sense
[HTC Incredible S] incrediblealex:
I would think they will update but it will not be the full version of sense since it slows down even fast phones to a crawl.
[HTC Incredible S] scoobysnacks:
The desire s is running it fine.....
[HTC Incredible S] Ouden:
I hope HTC will release 2.3.5 with HTC Sense 3.5.

For now, I'm using Enhab ROM.
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
i can't understand also why they didn't upgrade Incredible S, its not as if it's an obsolete phone already.
[HTC Incredible S] Ouden:
Right, It's still a good phone.
[HTC Incredible S] aishtayeh:
Mazing Phone

I have a one; it’s really amazing very fast phone with a great screen, why they don’t upgrade it to the lasts?!!!!
[HTC Incredible S] wssoh:
Hope they will have official announcement for this sense UI 3 soon

Sent from my HTC Incredible S
[HTC Incredible S] nikant:
it seems it will be released.. http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/htc-incredible-s-to-get-official-sense-3-0-update.html
[HTC Incredible S] jack711:
Hope we can get sense 3.5
[HTC Incredible S] RicarduZonta:
I am fine with gingerbread, don't need ICS. I only want the sense 3 goodies.
[HTC Incredible S] scoobysnacks:
Fk that...

Why would anyone not want hardware acceleration?
[HTC Incredible S] RicarduZonta:
See your point.

I am just so impatient. Got bored of sense 2.1, sense 3 looks so good.

I know I could use custom roms, but promised myself that I will keep a stock rom on my phone.

Had the Hd2, spent so much time trying new roms, unfortunately none of them gave an out of the box exprience, that is the reason I sold it. No root this time.
[HTC Incredible S] jakeyo:
Well for me I have put custom Roms on and so far only cyabogenmod works, if it didn't work then my phone would be paperweight. I can't go back to stock rom either which sucks but I'm sure ill find a way. Its because I did an ota update and its updated my hboot and now when I go back to stock its too old and not compatible :(
[HTC Incredible S] ryzer:
its nice to get rom...but mine cant...hope they gonna find the solutions for 1.16
[HTC Incredible S] shiningarmor:
completely depends on htc..
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
HTC has forgotten service for their phones, they just concentrate on new ones going out.. this will definitely be my HTC phone.
[HTC Incredible S] scoobysnacks:
apparently we're getting sense 3 and ics though. Hardly forgotten about.

Get a sony ericsson phone if you want to see what being forgotten about feels like lol
[HTC Incredible S] baste07:
Any news when we'll get the updates
[HTC Incredible S] RicarduZonta:
Htc is one of the best when talking about supporting and updating their older products.
[HTC Incredible S] rmctex:
It's incredible how Desire S has already been updated to Sense 3.0 and Android 2.3.5.

How about Incredible S??

It's bigger... so it should have been updated first! :)
[HTC Incredible S] Smoke_69:
just fix s-off then install niks rom with sense 3.5 or Virtous Rom sense 3,0 i love it
[HTC Incredible S] sidd_who2k:
the official 2.3.5 with sense 3.0 OTA update is out for incredible s..Still waiting for it in india though..is it possible to download it from somewhere? my phone is S-ON though..
[HTC Incredible S] Techadulate:
It seems that HTC is rolling out 2.3.5 update with sense 3.0 to htc incredible s. Though its not global, reports have came from Europe about over the air update.

check out on gsmarena
[HTC Incredible S] abul06sg:
Seems EU version only gets update. However, getting some update news from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Malaysia. Trust, the OTA updates releasing are based on orginal firmware version i.e if an European device is used in Malaysia will get the updates there as soon as released to European version/region rather than the countries where the set is being used. I think similar is happening here in Asian countries. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
[HTC Incredible S] dollor:
Update 2.3.5 with HTC sense 3.0 is just released for asia. enjoy downloading 231mb update.
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
Hi guys! I still don't have upgrade of android 2.3.5 for my incredible s. i live in israel, but region of my htc is India. HTC india said to me that there must be update for my device and they don't know why i still don't receive it. my device is not rooted. So! if there anybody know how to help- please!
[HTC Incredible S] sgiitk:
I am very surprised since a friend who has the same received the OTA. Ditto for my wife's Wildfire S. Did you check for the upgrade manually? I am on a Dinc2 which is a different kettle of fish. The latest available we have is the China Telecom 2.3.4 with a lot of Chinese apps.
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
what does it mean "check for the upgrade manually"? i did everything- soft reset, hard reset, changing time on 2013. but every time it's saying "there are no updates for your phone". so i don't know what else i can do.
[HTC Incredible S] Nonverbose:
There's no India ruu for inc s in this forum unfortunately. But you could make a gold card and flash a wwe sense 3 stock rom.
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
thanks for advice, but i don't want to do root, coz i still have guarantee
[HTC Incredible S] Nonverbose:
You don't need root to make a gold card, also you will be flashing a stock official rom so I don't see how it would affect your warranty.
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
I just now downloaded CIDGetter program and it wrote that i have CID [11111111]. what does it mean? and if this could be problem why i still don't have update?

---------- Post added at 10:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 PM ----------

I just now downloaded CIDGetter program and it wrote that i have CID [11111111]. what does it mean? and if this could be problem why i still don't have update?
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
A CID of 11111111 means that your phone has been carrier unlocked, so you shouldn't need a goldcard to flash a RUU from another carrier or region.
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
So that's mean that my phone is rooted? and how can i flash a RUU from another carrier or region? I'm apologise for my unknowing- i'm newbie
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
No it does not mean your phone is rooted. The CID 11111111 is a signal to the bootloader to ignore the CID signature in a RUU that you are attempting to install.

A RUU (ROM Update Utility) is a Windows PC application that you run on the PC and follow the on screen instructions to update your phones ROM.

With a CID of 11111111 you should be able to run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU version 3.08.405.3 which is the World Wide English version.
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
Where i can find this RUU? i mean application
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
In the Development section under the Shipped RUU/ROM sticky thread.
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
as i can see there is an updates. i don't see there a utility for helping me to do update. Or i'm just not understand something:confused:
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
The RUU file itself is a Windows exe program file, thus it is the utility. Download the file and then execute it on a Windows PC and follow the prompts.
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
At last!! Thank you very much! i did update as you says! it works great!:rolleyes:
[HTC Incredible S] Lelon.007:
Hi,

I'm new here so: hello to all :)

I have issue with updating my Incredible, it is still on 2.3.3. When I'm trying OTA update it says that my phone is updated. I'm from Poland but my Incredible was imported from Thailand (can this be a reason?)

I would really like to have 2.3.5 because on 2.3.3 I have sms lag.

To be honest I'm not familiar with this all s-off, on, roots, etc so I would really appreciate your help :)

My phone is on stock rom, and it wasn't modified in anyway.

What should I do to update my "Thailand" Incredible?

I've downloaded above mentioned cid getter app but I do not know what should I be looking for?

Thanks in advance
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
The first thing you must to look at your CID number- it's appear upper on screen, when you open CID getter.
[HTC Incredible S] Lelon.007:
Hi hef256,

CID is: HTC_044

I've also checked and my Incredible is S-ON

What's the next step? :)
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
you can do what i did: switch from CID to supercid and from s-on to s-off- it will give you permission to upload update of any region (world wide). instruction how to did it you can find in developers thread

---------- Post added at 11:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:45 PM ----------

In the Development section under the Shipped RUU/ROM sticky thread.:)
[HTC Incredible S] Mishka79:
Hi hef256,

can you tell me please what RUU did you use?

I don't know how to choose.....region of my HTC is also India and I live in Israel.
[HTC Incredible S] SandySemenov:
Check ur Cid and than u will know what u should do next - download ruu, or change Cid and get s-off
[HTC Incredible S] Mishka79:
My CID is HTC__038, I found that it means India-unbranded, and the phone is S-off.....what ruu should I download?
[HTC Incredible S] SandySemenov:
I'm not sure, so advice u to wait somebody else answer :)

But I think that wwe version will be OK ;) RUU_VIVO_SENSE30_S_HTC_WWE_3.08.405.3_Radio_20.4802.30.0822U

I'm not sure!
[HTC Incredible S] hef256:
Hi! i don't know what RUU you need, coz my CID is 11111111 and it gives to me download worldwide RUU. So i don't know how to help you. Sorry:(
[HTC Incredible S] skywalker1162:
HTC can't forget us that easily
[HTC Incredible S] Nonverbose:
Flash a custom rom. Unless you're returning it for warranty.... waste of an s-off phone otherwise.
[HTC Incredible S] AKHA04:
Not getting OTA android 2.3.5 and sense 3.0 upgrade for my Phone

Hi Guys,

I am using HTC Incredible S and so far haven't received OTA for my phone, I have written mail to HTC Customer Support and all they can say is wait patiently you will get the update, please help me in this regard. Specs of my phone is mentioned below:

Android Version: 2.3.3

HTS Sense VErsion: 2.1

Baseband version: 20.2805.30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M

Build Number: 2.12.921.4.CL37872

Software number: 2.12.921.4

CID :[HTC_621]

I am using the Phone in Pakistan. I desperately want to upgrade and enjoy the new interface! Can anyone help me.
[HTC Incredible S] Nonverbose:
This is the ruu for that cid http://dl.dbank.com/c003q45i00 blue button with green arrow to download.
[HTC Incredible S] abhijit1289:
it shud have updated everywhere by now. Anyway ull get pics by may! :)
[HTC Incredible S] sincem:
of course!It's still a good phone.
[HTC Incredible S] boytoy:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_release...that_will_get_android_40_update-news-3974.php
[HTC Incredible S] AKHA04:
I got call from HTC yesterday stating the upgrade 2.3.5 for Incredible S is not available any more since they were having some problems with their server :S
[HTC Incredible S] Nonverbose:
WTF!? HTC never ring me..... bastards
[HTC Incredible S] xDrawksalot:
RUU?

Sorry for being a noobie, but does using RUU wipe the entire phone (or essentially hard resets the phone)? Cos I can't bare to lose my phone's stuff and I couldn't obtain the latest Sense 3.0 update as it has been taken down. :S

Thanks!
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
Yes flashing with a RUU will wipe your phone and leave you in a fresh factory reset state with the new ROM.
[HTC Sensation] xperiaforme:
I have rooted sensation with stock rom. I egistered for Kobo and Adobe in HTC reader. Now I am trying to buy an ebook and I keep getting can't connect to server error. Any ideas why and yes my wifi is on and running.
[HTC Sensation] vdai:
I have this same problem with a rooted HTC Desire HD. A shame since Reader actually works pretty well.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZUBAIR1291:
can any body tell me that if i upgrade my vibrant t959 with vibrant 4g rom downloaded form samfirmware what will happen...if some thing is happed after flashing can i be able to flash it back to stock?????? help plzzz want to use gingerbread..:(:rolleyes:
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geoffcorey:
If you do as you're planning, not only will your phone not work, you WILL permanent brick it!

T959v IS NOT compatible with t959 without HEAVY modification, add to the fact that t959v have bootloaders in its Odin package.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZUBAIR1291:
what do you say about installing i9000 stock rom 2.3.5 it can b installed without modification with clockworkmod recovery...should i install this...i don't want to slow my phone on any cost so is it good to install it or i should just leave it on froyo...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geoffcorey:
You buttons WILL be messed up, and you headphones jack will read the opposite of what state they are actually in.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZUBAIR1291:
my all the button,s a working fine....but but iam not satisfied with it..it is fast but take much of my ram then froyo..:(.....well iam going to test it with all applications...it was dificult to flash it back to froyo..;) i only wanted to use gingerbread i like only official updates..:p
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MailenJokerbell:
Well, if you insist...

Report back any progress lol
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZUBAIR1291:
well.....volume button's and power button were messed up..:p...them have different configuration now....what if i try to update with t959v gingerbread instead of i9000 jvt ?????????????.................with clockworkmod??
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geoffcorey:
Your partitions WILL NOT MOIJT if you flash a sgs 4g rom without a modified kernel, and your buttons WILL be.messed up, and possibly your headphone icon will indicate the reverse of what it actually is.

There's a reason we don't have a straight port from the gt-i9000 nor a straight port from the sgs 4g...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZUBAIR1291:
is there any expected official rom of gingerbread on t959???....or any is there any good rom that is completely like origional rom...

and after bringing back to froyo i iam getting parsing error when i launch sims 3 why???....tried too many flashes jfd and kb5 euegene then again jfd then kb5..jfd and kb5 again...but same problem..
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geoffcorey:
No, there isn't an expected official gb for tmo-us 3g vibrant.

As for.your Sims 3 issue, no idea.
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZUBAIR1291:
well is there any good gb rom that can be on my vibrant...
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jasonhunterx:
CM7 MIUI Simply Stock Simply Honey.....to name a few