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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Earlier i made some comments about regular amoled and super amoled being less efficient than slcd screens. The consensus is still out on how efficient plus screens are compared to slcd. My opinion is the current used in amo + and slcd is very comparable seeing how well the sgs2 does on battery. I just read that the euro version of the motorola razor uses super amoled advance at 960x540 resolution(no mention of pentile) but it was also mentioned that it uses 25% less power that amoled + used on sgs2. If that is the case im sure a good argument can be made that latest generation amoled screens are using less current than a linear current slcd screen. I and a few of friends are wondering if any of this lower current technology is implemented in the nexus HD screen but the focus was High def. I hope both the advanced and hd screens havent lost any contrast or black levels. The colors are saturated a bit, but the black levels make everything pop like a plasma with excellent black levels.

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
That's only because the video was a 4:3 video that was sized to fit vertical height. The buttons slid away and the video shifted right.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ssconceptz:
Fact of the matter is the buttons hide and slide away for apps and videos when told to do so. Don't forget this is an ability of ICS and as of this point only Galaxy Nexus specific until another device uses them. ICS by default has no on screen buttons unless enabled.

Sent with Galaxy S II EPIC Starburst Touch
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
U miss my point, but I'll let it go and just wait in see
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I know exactly what you're saying, but you're assuming because it's still black it's not being used. That's not what's happening.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
it shows clearly in the video. i dont get it why it is so hard to understand.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KevinMArchibald:
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/10/25/my-gripe-with-the-on-screen-buttons-in-ice-cream-sandwich/ This article seems to indicate that the space is always dedicated to the soft buttons. I'm hoping it's an 3rd party application option to turn them off, since the article also mentions that device makers can have hardware buttons.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EndlessMike133:
Go to Youtube, search Hands-on 2 Samsung Galaxy Nexus with Android 4.0, click the first video and go to 4:30.

He goes full-screen and it uses the ENTIRE screen including the buttons area.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
They incorrectly calculated the subpixels per inch for every phone. It should be 569 for the iPhone 4 and 446 for the Galaxy Nexus. The difference is much smaller than what they report.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MikeyMike01:
Text looks absolutely dreadful on the SGS as compared to the SGS II, even though the SGS had a smaller screen at the same resolution.

Sent from my SGS II
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
I am one of those people who bashed amoled screens as being power hungry and worse than SLCD screens. but this was based on all the tests i and others did on the nexus one. samsung claimed super amoled got 30% more power efficient, and then i guess amoled plus maybe more? so perhaps the latest amoled generation of technology is better, but i really hated the amoled power hunger. sure black colors were slightly lower, but white colors were so off-the-charts higher that it destroyed the battery 3 times faster than slcd. and since real world we look at 95% white web pages etc, i just didnt see amoled being an advantage.

with the galaxy nexus i'm going back to the amoled and let's hope it gets decent battery life!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ljwnow:
Right. That's the only reason not buying this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ljwnow:
The one on gs2 is OK. But I know what pentile is. Its not good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Lmao. Pentile is not that bad. Its funny how pentile turned alot of people into wannabe videophiles over mobile phone screens.

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Here ya go escincho:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RiPaMbBSVZ0#t=1141s

19 min mark

It should be noted that games will not be able to take advantage of this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
Yep. Saw it in the other vid posted. I'm happy. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xManMythLegend:
I have not been a fan of amoled screens...the bluish tints and pushing of reds would be ok if standard display tweaks can be made. SLCD whites look better.

I do wonder how galaxy nexus at that size with pentile and the built in downsides if amoled colors will look against say the Amaze at 540 on a 4.3 inch screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Berserk87:
WHAT?!

How the hell are you supposed to play a touch screen game while trying to miss the three buttons of the bottom of the screen...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragooon123:
Same way you do now? How do you expect to get out of the game with no buttons?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] schriss:
Interesting read: What's the benefit of having an HD screen
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wendellc:
The difference in having a hi-def screen is that it is better than having a standard def.

Put the same Res on the iPhones 3.5" screen and you'll see how better 720p really is. You cannot really compare iPhone and galaxy nexus, its apples to oranges. I prefer the latter.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] schriss:
No, the point was that iPhone's small screen with its resolution is equal to Hexus's bigger screen with higher resolution as the pixel densite is now almost the same. Until now we have seen bigger screens with lower res. So Nexus is really the first one to be compared to iPhone. If they make bigger iPhone, they will also increase resolution, to keep pixel density at least on current level.

That said, I also prefer Nexus.

I was never into iPhones as I heavily depend on the XDA developments, flashing new ROM/Kernel/Theme whenver I get bored with my phone. And I change phones every 6-12 months.

These words explain what I meant to say:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Carefully.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
Haaaaaa......
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wendellc:
Got your point, misunderstood at first.

Yes, Pixel density is directly related to screen size and resolution.

I didn't like where they made it seem as if nexus screen is still inferior to iPhone due to iPhone higher pixel density.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
Games and all apps will be able to take advantage of the extra space. There are already apps that do this on the tablets and you can hide/unhide at will and the screen will enlarge to accomidate.

I doubt this will be any different.

G2x - 2.3.7 CM7

Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Berserk87:
I was thinking for games it would hide to accommodate the game, then reappear with some weird multi touch gesture.

how do the tablets do it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Nope, unless the framework is hacked up, the navigation bar (where the soft keys are on phones, on tablets it's called the system bar, it's different) will be shown as soon as the user interacts with the system(not sure if it's limited to the touch screen or any input) if they are set to be completely hidden.

It's in the documentation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] OJ in Compton:
You seem to troll a lot less on here than you do on GAF.

Also, they should just make it be a swipe up from the bottom bezel for triggering the softkeys in games.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
Then what the heck is the point of the softkeys? I thought the whole idea was to give the display more real estate to use. If all that area will ever be used for is those three damn keys, why not just make them into real keys with real tactile feedback that people won't accidentally press?

This is so stupid that I refuse to believe there isn't some good explanation behind this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vash1053:
I don't know how anyone can tolerate looking at a Galaxy S or Nexus S, let alone say they look "sharp". It looks like there's a black grid covering the entire screen. If the Galaxy Nexus has the same bugscreen effect, it can go to hell along with every other pentile phone out there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
ruh roh....

At least you get full usage during videos...that counts for...something.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sgs064:
rs20.mine.nu/w/2011/10/720p-pentile-galaxy-nexus-comparison-simulation/

a really well written article. Cant post links yet :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Chirality:
Ugh...why don't they just put one small physical button somewhere that lets you bring up the softkeys at any time, then any app that needs to use the full screen can do so. I know they are trying to avoid copying more from the iPhone, but this is one thing Apple got right from the start and I can't believe Android still doesn't get it after all this time. I can't count the number of times people complain about accidentally pressing the softkeys while doing something else.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mlin:
Having owned both I tend to prefer the 4 capacitive buttons of android to the single hardware button on the iPhone. I am very interested to see how the new on screen button idea works out in the real world.

tapa tapa tapa
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] darkhawkff:
That was actually a very well written article. Sadly, the tech world doesn't generally stop and use it's brain very often.

Personally, I don't have problems with Pentile displays. If it looks better, who cares what review sites say? I'm sure anyone who considers the phone will go in, play with whatever demo unit is there, and then make a decision. So what if some guy who uses a microscope to see the pixels and holds his phone 2" from his face so he can see it says the display is bad, it's his opinion and you know what everyone else also has that stinks just as bad? Yup.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vash1053:
No offense, but pentile didn't earn its bad rap because people were looking at it under a microscope-- it earned it because it is quite visibly inferior to RGB in most situations. At least, at the resolutions we're used to thus far.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] darkhawkff:
I really hate to break it to you, but this is 2011. Not 2009. Or even 2010. In fact, in case you weren't aware, it's actually only 2 months away from 2012.

Honestly, I wish people would realize that we can complain/discuss this as much as they want, until we have the phone in our hands, we can't make assumptions that there is going to be significant banding, or that it will be inferior to RGB. Each display is different, just like every person on here is different. You think they haven't learned from previous displays at all?

On top of that, gathering by your response, you pretty much seem to be in the same group as those from Engadget and other sites that thought it was great until they learned it was a pentile display, and then quickly did an about face. Take some time a read up, a number of links to outside sites really helps to improve the reasoning behind why they do what they do, and it really makes sense, if you have the ability to understand it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vash1053:
Aside from the rather amusing fact that you feel we can't use history as a means to assume anything, no, I don't feel that they've fundamentally changed the technology in any way. The pictures of it have shown many of the same flaws that have always existed on pentile screens (e.g., solid colors over black). If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend that they don't exist, I'm not going to try and stop you.

Speaking of assumptions, you seem to have it down to a science. Normally I'd take the time to explain why you're laughably off-base, but really, I have nothing to say to hypocrites. Bainao
[Motorola Triumph] ilcavallo:
technically i'm decent, but can't quite wrap my head around what i need to do to put a new ROM on my Triumph.

i apologize in advance, because i'm sure this info is out there, but i've been snooping a bit and can't find it.

basically, the entire process from a stock Triumph to putting on a custom ROM.....what is it?

THANK YOU.
[Motorola Triumph] llorn:
Depending on what ROM you want to put on your phone, you may or may not need to root your phone separately.

Here's a very basic process:

1. install ClockworkMod Recovery (CWM) on your phone:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1282951

1A. In ClockworkMod Recovery, make a backup of your system before proceeding to flash anything else.

2. Download a custom ROM from any of the ROM threads in this forum or androidforums.com.

3. Copy the downloaded ROM to your phone's SD card.

4. Boot into CWM and flash the ROM you downloaded.

5. If your custom ROM is not already pre-rooted (CyanogenMod7, MIUI, and a bunch of the others on this site are already pre-rooted), you will need to root it using Gingerbreak 1.2 (google for it) or use B_randon14's method to link the built-in sudo to su.

Otherwise, evanrobinson put together a very detailed thread on androidforums here:

http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/429453-everything-triumph-one-thread.html
[Motorola Triumph] primetechv2:
llorn's missing a crucial step: A lot of the stock-based ROMs need to de-odex your system before they can be installed from total stock, or else you'll get a bootloop. The amended process goes something like this, at least for my ROM (I copypasted, so humor me).

Pre-installation

If you don't have custom recovery on your phone, please install it first.

If your system is not deodexed, please install this ROM first. It will completely deodex your phone and guarantee this ROM will install smoothly.

Installation

Download Black Lightning here, or the ROM of your choice..

Put it somewhere easy to find on your phone's SD card (I made a folder called "0roms" because it goes to the top of the list).

Power off your phone.

Boot your phone into Recovery Mode (While holding Volume Down and Volume Up, hold Power until you feel a vibration.)

Navigate to "Install ZIP from SD Card" (volume keys to go up/down, power key to select).

Navigate to the ROM, choose it.

The install should take around 1-2 minutes.

Press the Menu key to return to the main menu, then choose Reboot.
[Motorola Triumph] llorn:
That's true. If you're using another FROYO based ROM, it's probably best to de-odex first.

Otherwise, if you're going to install the CM7 or MIUI roms, you don't need to.

Oh and one more EXTREMELY crucial step... MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP IN CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY BEFORE FLASHING ANYTHING ELSE.

I'll amend my post with that as well... :)
[Motorola Triumph] ilcavallo:
this is extremely helpful guys. thank you so much. is there a consolidated place with all the most popular ROMs and some screenshots or must i just look for each one individually?
[Motorola Triumph] primetechv2:
I'm pretty much sure it's either here (Android Themes section) or androidforums.com. Sdx-developers.com has a Triumph section too...
[HTC Sensation] DeoreDX:
Any former Nexus S owners on the Sensation boards who can give me some good feeback on their Nexus S v. the Sensation now that they have had the phones for a while? I'm really not a power user, I do email, web browsing, and listen to some podcasts and audio books, and take pictures and that's pretty much all I do with my phone. As such I was actually thinking of downgrading from my Sensation to a Nexus S, just because I want to try out a Nexus phone and I can't afford to get a Galaxy Nexus. I'd love to hear some feedback on every day speeds of the UI (lag etc) and battery life especially. Screen, etc.
[HTC Sensation] sosquidtaste:
I had my Nexus S as a daily driver for about 5 months (give or a take a few weeks), and have had my Sensation since around the time it launched-- so very comparable timespans.

In my experience, emailing and audio usage had effectively no difference between handsets; I used Gmail and PowerAMP on both, so I cannot comment on any performance differences between stock AOSP and HTC Email or Music apps.

The camera is IMO a pretty notable improvement on the Sensation. Not just the qHD resolution (more on that in a sec), but the image quality in general. Not to mention the 1080P videorecording ability. Looks ace. I believe I had a ROM that handled 720P videorecording, but IIRC the framerate wasn't as good.

Honestly, I can't say as I felt that either one had smoother UI-- although I've gone to lengths to either clear out some of the Sense 3.X bloat on my Sensation, and exclusively used custom ROMs for both phones.

Battery life was a bit better on my Nexus S-- although a CM7-based ROM and an undervolted kernel undoubtedly affected that. Comparing stock kernels, though, I think it's fair to say that they were about equal, with the NS maybe a *smidge* better.

The biggest reason I prefer my Sensation is the screen size/resolution. qHD is really excellent, and I don't think I could go back-- even though the NS has a reasonably large screen as well. Larger resolution and pixel density makes the text easier on the eyes (and that's coming from a young-ish guy, so it's a pretty dramatic improvement if even I notice :P), and fits more content on the screen than I remember having on the NS. Reading webpages also feels better by comparison on my Sensation.

Since we live and die by the touchscreens on our devices, I'd say that's the most convincing reason why I personally would never go back to the Nexus S. Or even my trusty, beloved Nexus One.

EDIT: Hopefully someone who kept their NS stock would be better able to speak to some of the issues above where I wasn't able to comment as well. NSCollab and Netarchy's kernels were just too sweet of a combo for me to want to stay stock, though :]
[HTC Sensation] sn0warmy:
Hm, that was some good insight. I honestly have been considering trading my Sensation for a Nexus S if I can find someone local with T-Mobile who is willing.

I'm still on the fence. Unfortunately, I feel like my Snesation has caused a lot mroe headaches than my Nexus One did. I am really starting to miss that phone...
[HTC Sensation] sosquidtaste:
Oh. God. Also, the fact that the Sensation has a microSD slot is a big deal for me. I'm a media hoarder, so the 16GB limitation on the Nexus S was terrible for me. I know the OP said that media was one of his factors.

As for sn0warmy, they really just don't make em like they made the Nexus One, eh? (As long as we sort of gloss over the ****ty touchscreen errors on the N1) :]

What sorts of headaches are you having with the Sensation though? Hopefully I've gone through them too, and might have some advice?
[HTC Sensation] sinisin:
Hey guys. Any of you Nexus S owners have any problems with lag(like major lag) on everyday tasks like composing a SMS or any issues making phone calls? My mom just got the S and I've seen it do it to her. She types something and it just stalls like an old Windows 95 machine with an enormous work load. It also refuses to make calls sometimes, with the same stalled out results. Its on Sprint but it's got to be a bad handset right? Should I have her take it in or are these problems with all Nexus S sets?

Sent from where ever I was when I posted this
[HTC Sensation] sn0warmy:
Unfortunately, I just can't get used to what feels like poor design quality to me. The phone pops and creeks when using it due to the way the screen and back plate are mounted together. It just doesn't feel as solid as I would like.

Secondly, I am now on my second Sensation. The first one was replaced due to dust under the screen and within 1 week of having the new one I had the same dust problem. And it really erks me that there are a large number of us with this issue yet HTC still refuses to admit it's an actual problem. :mad:

The one thing that makes me nervous about switching more than anything else is losing the dual core processor. An Ice Cream Sandwich port is undoubtedly around the corner for the Sensation with full dual core support. At which point I think the Sensation will blow the Nexus S out of the water with speed performance.
[HTC Sensation] xdviper:
I have a nexus s as well, just got it 3 weeks ago and it's alright. Its not as snappy as the sensation and you can see the one second lag when you switch from aanother app to another. Right now I'm running the oxygen rom on it and the battery life is awesome.

More on it later, I hate typing long comparisons on my phone
[HTC Sensation] thatguyitsme:
Love both, been using the nexus s since December (when power button & USB port tapped out on nexus one) ... well, I wouldn't ditch the sensation for the nexus s. But there are a few things the nexus s has over the sensation. Color, sound, voodoo mods, ease of root, and unlocking bootloader, design (sensation housing engineer belongs in the dungeon, I couldn't use it without a case), power button on sensation is suspect as well, just feels like its wearing out each time I press it. I guess if you're a Google fan I'd recommend the nexus s. If you're an HTC fan, the sensation.
[HTC Sensation] Funsho:
Well I'll start off by stating the obvious which is the Nexus S is vanilla.(Pure ANDROID!) So I bought the Nexus S sometime during the beggining of the summer, and for the first 3 months I loved it nonetheless. Coming from the HD2 prior I was use to flashing roms left & right! so using the Nexus S with stock overall felt stable & fluid. However I'm one of the individuals who had a bad pba(printed board assembly) board so about 3 weeks ago I sent my device to Samsung. Waitng two weeks for a phone is ridiculous, & recieving it broken is even more RIDICOLOUS. The phone booted up(which was the issue) , but when plugged into the computer, even with the updated drivers my device wouldnt be detected. Long story short I sold my Nexus S the same day UPS sent it, followed by heading over to a local cellphone store and trading it in for my new SENSATION! I don't regret it one bit. Sure the Prime is Amazing! however if Samsung decides on making the storage internal again, that will be my make or break decision. Oh, not to mention the Sensation has the 8226 qualcomm processor, running at 1.2ghz, which by the way is underclocked. The qhd display along with an 8MP dual flash camera gives the Nexus S a run for its money...Just Saying :D
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pleasantcrew:
I'm currently running the liquid thunder bread Rom v2.6. I'm having issues with the volume on my tethered headset mic. I can hear people but they can only faintly hear me. Is there a simple way to increase the gain on my inline mic? Thanks in advance.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandonpaz:
My build number is HTK75.US_epad-8.6.5.13-20110925, I have both a docking station and a tablet.

When I have the tablet plugged into the Dock, I still have the docking station drain issue. If I leave the screen turned off with the dockingstation plugged in, I get about 1 day of use before the battery is drained (This is with out using the tablet at all).

If I have them seperated and I do not use the tablet, the tablet alone will last for 3-4 days on standby (the screen off).

ASUS is recommending RMA, does anybody here have feedback before I send in my tablet and Dock?

Thanks in advance,

Brandon
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dburckh:
Had the same issue. It is not a hardware issue, RMA won't help. I'm running revolution HD and the problem is fixed. I now drain about 2-3% in 8 hours in standby.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgaikwad:
i have the same problem running Prime 2.0.4. Been debating calling support, but i'll give revolution a try tomorrow and see what happens.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bosotros:
Hard reset cured it for me.
[Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] godsosall:
I guess you already have tried this:

1. Click on <Apps> on the home screen

2. Click on <Settings>

3. Click on <Screen>

4. Make sure that <MobileDock Battery saving mode> is ticked

And after this make sure to turn off the screen with the power button, otherwise it may not go to deep sleep, it is definitely a software bug, which I'm not sure why they don't fix it (I have a B80, tablet+dock)