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[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BuddyLee:
Fringe opening song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aki5f0mztXs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jumped:
Classic

Mines Ring Ring:cool:
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nicksnoobie:
Where dem girls at - Flo-Rida
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsaintzx:
James Morrison - I won't let you go
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Archer:
I had that for a while and then some of my mates started using it too, so you never knew whos phone was ringing! Obviously, it had to go.

Now got Beck, Devil's Haircut.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
That reminds me of my P1 time, had Crank ringtone and all of my friends started using it ;)

Now I can use it again :D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrismass:
LOL mine is the default of GS2 :D
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deadgonz:
Pantera - F###ing Hostile. Gets my attention pretty quickly :-)

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Acer Iconia A500] nollaig:
Just downloaded Neflix. Works great.
[Acer Iconia A500] NoHousePhone:
Yes it does. I deleted my Netflix and downloaded the official one from the market.
[Acer Iconia A500] AZKJS:
what rom are you running? Im not able to make the official app run it just sits on the splash screen with its little "working" animation.

The hacked app worked well with the patch but it fc my camera
[Acer Iconia A500] bigdogshark62:
Downloaded it yesterday and tested it out. Ran fine for me.

They released a patch today that supposedly fixes bugs when using it with custom ROMs. Check that out in the market.
[Acer Iconia A500] BrianDigital:
I had to uninstall the hacked flash then install the proper flash from the market to get the updated Netflix to work
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AllGamer:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1319022037

that is a very technical yet interesting read.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
This has been discussed to the death in the Galaxy S days.

Galaxy S and Nexus S has the same tech in it.

I think they looked fine.

If you have to calculate the pixel density like this, what does the Nexus S has with it's 4" 800x480 display? 150ppi?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] daleski75:
Looks interesting will have to see one for real now hopefully soon
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Einride:
The PentTile AMOLED displays look great with pictures, video, etc, especially with the excellent black levels. However, for text it's not so good. I have a Galaxy S and the PenTile display looks really bad at times. Text looks tinted, and red text on black or just red on dark backgrounds in general? It looks like it's hovering above the display, horrible...

Sure, the GN has a smaller screen than the Galaxy Note and therefore a higher DPI, but I'm not so sure it's enough to hide the weaknesses of a PenTile display.

Hopefully someone will get their hands on one for a proper test of the display.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gokpog:
Hey look! Another AMOLED display and another site found out about PenTile RGBG vs. RGB or "Real Stripe"!

Hardly something new, that's been around since the first Nexus One and they don't break with tradition. Nexus One, Nexus S and now the Galaxy Nexus, all have a PenTile matrix.

Yes, PenTile RGBG matrix offers less sub pixels and still PPI and resolution are based on "pixels". That might not be ideal and there will always be PenTile haters counting sub pixels one by one. But unless Samsung can produce 300+ PPI AMOLED displays with their "real stripe" method it's either PenTile or LCD.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tjtj4444:
Some good information here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5000/galaxy-nexus-pentile-discussion-confirmed
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dhiral.v:
Hmm, so it still fares better than the galaxy s2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] varunkumars:
Check this out guys. Note can be same as Galaxy Nexus.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus-to-have-PenTile-panel_id23165
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bfspider:
this poor dead horse keep getting a beating here...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
This is so overblown. It isn't exactly something new. Pentile Matrix has been around for a couple years. Most of the people don't notice **** about it.

Phones with pentile matrix tech:

Nexus One

Nexus S

Galaxy S family

Galaxy Note

Galaxy Nexus

Samsung Focus

Samsung Omnia 7

HTC Desire

HTC Droid Incredible

HTC Legend

Dell Venue Pro

Nokia N8

Nokia N85

Nokia N86 8MP

Samsung Transform

Motorola Droid RAZR (It doesn't mention the "plus" so it should be pentile)

and more...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RogerPodacter:
the nokia phones do not have the pentile matrix displays, nokia orders samsung oled screens with true RGB subpixel layout. however nokia struck that deal, likely paying more per screen (?), is a mystery because even samsung themselves who make the screens use pentile thru the years...while nokia got the true RGB OLED screens.

this includes nokia n8, n85, do not have pentile.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
Thanks I didn't know that.

I thought all AMOLED use pentile except SAMOLED+.

I just searched the wiki for phones with AMOLED screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CanaganD:
Then give us a ****ing LCD. I'm tired of this bull **** Pentile matrix crap on my N1.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
You'd rather have an LCD than a SAMOLED?

Forgive me, but lawwwwwwwl.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skyhigh2004:
+1. I like the screen on my nexus one more than my slcd sensation. But again its IMHO.

sent from my Sensation 4G
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xNEM3S1Sx:
That second article is a more realistic view of how pentile performs in real life.

Most importantly, take a look at everyone's initial impressions of the screen, and check out the clear amazement in almost all of those articles, it seems that these new nay-sayers are very much based on prior conceptions, rather than real world performance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
The clarity difference is astounding. I like my Bolt and all, but put the thing next to any Samsung and it's night and day.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KevinMArchibald:
The icons and text look okay in the running video. Not sure what the distance is.

More interesting were the benchmarks in the video. What were they, and how do they compare with the same benchmarks on some of the flagship devices from the last three months?

Also there seems to be a little bit of rendering/painting delay at 3:55-4:00 when the user tries to pinch an enlarged section of a web page, though that might be expected behavior. Was surprised to see that since the reported Sunspider and V8 benchmarks for the Galaxy Nexus handily beat the SGS2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nitin985:
Pentile is a load of bull...

Sent From My HTC sensation (desire with rcmix s )
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] unikum:
When you using fullscreen apps it is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragooon123:
Would full screen apps take over the area of on-screen buttons? I thought they'd just hide them, considering there won't be a way to go back.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tung_meister:
Here's a screen size comparison I just made, should give you a good idea
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragooon123:
I've done that kind of comparison on paper, it still doesn't count in for the lost screen size due to the on-screen buttons.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jebus99:
The instant Samsung didnt mention PLUS, it was obvious its going to be a Pentile Matrix. But did the engadget writer go the core of the technology and tried to consider the reason for this choice?

Pentile has less subpixels : agreed.

But as resolution goes up and pixel density starts to increase, the inherited disadvantage of the pentile matrix start do become more and more irrelevant. Thats the beauty of this technology. It provides a great balance and it actually starts to look better as pixel density increases despite maintaining low subpixel count.

This happens as the distance / space between two adjacent pixel starts to decrease thanks to increased resolution and higher pixel density.

The display on this is 1280x720 at 4.65inch which is considerably smaller than Galaxy Note. Hence considerably higher pixel density and less distance between two pixels. Hence the disadvantage of having Pentil matrix is greatly reduced.

Now what are the advantaged of pentile matrix? Its power.

It can maintain the good quality thanks to OLED technology and maintain higher screen brightness while easting almost half the power in most conditions than a RGB panel. This is why this technology is used on this display. Its a big screen having very high resolution. Having RGB panel would have destroyed its battery life. In the future when we have more power efficient technology, we will see RGB screens in this size having this resolution which are power efficient. But for now, this is the best you can get while having some sort of decent battery life on such big screen.

It is currently the best panel available.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tung_meister:
here's one with the button area shown
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragooon123:
Hmm..Thanks :), I just wanna buy this phone and shove it in the face of an idiot who got a SGSII and thinks he's the best :P.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tung_meister:
Ye I've been drifting between the two and think I'll be going for the galaxy nexus, the larger higher resolution screen, nicer design and NFC are pulling me towards it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Griffrez:
In high pixel density situations. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] peachpuff:
If you try to mimic that closeup on the video with your current phone it'll be like 1-2" from your nose... not sure how many people use their phones like that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KWKSLVR:
If you care about pentile, I have a suggestion, don't buy the Prime. I like my Vibrant's screen. I like updates from Google better. Options = Win :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SwiftLegend:
Don't understand what the big deal is. Looks good in the videos. No one uses their phone that close to their face anways so what's the big deal. I can hardly notice the pentile on my X2..

I guess there will always be something that someone is going to complain about, no matter how nice a phone is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
People are impossible to please. If they'd never said it was a PenTile screen everyone would just be raving about it. Like the Engadget writers who yapped about how vibrant and clear the screen was until they found out the specs and were suddenly 'disappointed'.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] th0r615:
How close do you hold your phone to your face?! Jeez people
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Griffrez:
You're saying that people like the practical aspect of it, until they suddenly bump into the theoretical part of it, and they don't see the practical aspect of it as good as they found it before knowing the theoretical part of it.

Confusing sentence is confusing.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Not having a trackball is disappointing. Just kidding. The hidden RGB notification almost makes up for no microsd. Cloud storage is not for everybody. Its nice to have it there for backup purposes, but having your data removable is the shiznit. What if you want to upgrade or pull the card out to put in a reader for even faster transfer? I have a class 6 lexar that is fast in and out of my atrix. It is only ¾ the speed of the toshiba internal mmc though.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dhiral.v:
This pentile thing has been blown out of proportion:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134

Stating that even with the pentile, they still cannot make out the pixels.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dhiral.v:
Agreed, Galaxy Nexus FTW!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SwiftLegend:
People are always gonna b*&ch about something. If it wasn't the screen, it'd be the processor and gpi. If it wasn't the processor and gpu it'd be that there are no capacitive buttons.

I'm surprised I haven't seen anything on the size of the phone...(hope I'm not speaking too soon)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] veyka:
There's a whole thread complaining about the size! ;)

Due to the tiny bezel and the fact that the screen has absorbed the button area, the physical size isn't that much bigger than the sgs2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
Theres a thread about how big it is. And a few jokes about your gf/wife getting bugeyed about it.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blunden:
That article is laughably bad. Their so called proof is a picture taken off-center a quite far away. First they should prove that what they are seeing by scaling it up isn't artifacts produced by the camera. Also, it's apparent from the comments and previous articles that the author has already decided to hate it before even researching and writing the article and that's just not good journalism.

As has already been said, even bloggers who always show a clear Apple fanboyism said the screen was amazing so I doubt there is a noticeable problem at such a high pixel density.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blunden:
You have to take the resolution into account as that makes the biggest difference. With the lower resolution of the GSII you really don't fit any more information on the screen than the Nexus One with it's 3.7" screen. Everything is just bigger and that seems pretty pointless to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ace42:
Don't the onscreen keys need to be permanent? It's the only way of leaving an app...Unless there's a gesture to hide them and bring them back?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sjael:
I agree. I'm more inclined to peg that as a camera artifact than a display one; the blue tinge to the edge of the numbers is about 6 pixels wide on that screen. :rolleyes:

As for the off-angle color shift, my Droid 2's 'renowned' IPS LCD exhibits FAR worse color-shift than that screen. :eek:

Edit: Just for fun, I side-by-side'd the images from the PhoneArena article:

Clearly the SGS2's SAMOLED+ will blow the Nexus away. :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bullterrier1:
My galaxy SSll epic touch is 4.52in screen not 4.3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ssconceptz:
You should compare the EPIC Touch 4.5 which isnt much difference. What you guys forget is that the ON SCREEN BUTTONS will AUTOHID just like on some tablets.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
It doesn't matter. If u look at any of the videos, when the buttons off, that area still isn't being used.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ssconceptz:
That is where you are wrong. Look again at the official Samsung/Google video it shows when they play a video the buttons hide and the video consumes the entire screen. Just think about how older devices will be coded, the buttons have to be OS optional.

Sent via my Galaxy S II EPIC 4G Touch
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] peachpuff:
Here's a video with some good size comparison between the sgs2 and galaxy nexus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LCWtC1Twsg#t=3m07s

I cropped some pics from the video showcasing the difference between the two.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] peachpuff:
Forget the sgs2, even the iphone4's 329ppi doesn't look as good as the galaxy notes display, that screen door effect really shows in the "retina" display in the tracks.

samoled hd

iphone 4

sgs2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
I'll have to look again. I didn't remember the movie, but in other things it didn't use that area when the buttons went away
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragooon123:
I can't find anything that takes over the button's area, they hide but the area is still unused.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sjael:
Let's stay optimistic about wasted space for buttons, and remember that there were tools for Honeycomb that would hide/show the button bar. :)

Not that it shouldn't be a default option in the OS... :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Remix2011:
Well the SGS2 is a stronger phone spec wise and will be even more so when it get's ICS.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
Yeah. I didn't find it running any movie
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mallman:
The honeybar app may work on it. Makes the bay disappear till ya tap a Cretan spot on screen. Therefore all apps could be full screen
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dragooon123:
It may be but I would have a pretty good contender, and I'm sure I can easily make it look much better than his :P. I just want him to shut up yapping on and on about his "awesome" SGSII.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Angel Slayer:
Anyone notice that model wasn't up to date? It was 4.0, the newest build shown was 4.0.1 at Hong Kong. It was probably a beta phone, maybe the one shipping will be better, but I mean as long as it looks better than my Evo then I could really care less about sub pixels, my friends galaxy s looks amazing. I want that high contrast ratio :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Berserk87:
Just having a zoomed in picture and confirming its pentile doesnt help much.

I'd like to see it compared to a pentile screen everyones seen like the galaxy s or the atrix.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] schriss:
Read that, that was all I needed to know.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SwiftLegend:
I haven't seen anything, then again, I hardly look. Oh and smd :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SirRomie:
My S2 doesn't have NFC, but that beam feature is the only thing I really like about it right now anyway. Plus the S2 has wi-fi direct which does a very similar thing. The thing that we will have to wait and see is what they do with the on screen menu buttons for phones that already have hardware buttons and how Samsung will reskin the newly designed stock apps. Especially when they look so slick already!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] busab:
I believe you swipe the bezel to reveal the buttons again when the phone is in full screen mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
Reskin?????
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] darkhawkff:
Just chiming in to say that I have a Droid X (with a Pentile display) and it looked great even when it came out 1.5 or so years ago. It was as good as anything Apple had at the time.

I see nothing wrong with the Pentile. You either go LCD and take the battery hit and have a 'retina' screen that some people looks great, or you get a Pentile and don't get the battery hit and have a screen that when you hold it at reasonable lengths looks great. Personally though, I've never seen someone holding their Iphone 3" from their face trying to use it because then they can see all the pixels it has.

I'll probably STILL be highly considering this phone, mainly because I'm tired of Motorola/HTC and Samsung and the crap they pull. A straight Google phone is the best experience at this point.

EDIT:Also, I enjoy the first article linked on the first page....it has the same pictures that are in the Wikipedia article about Pentile displays....I can tell the guy did research..... :rolleyes:

I believe what Anandtech tells me, they tend to be very company agnostic, which (generally) provides a very unbiased review of the product. That being said, I can't wait for Anand to get a chance to do a review. Hopefully before I buy it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
You guys comparing shots of the screen, look up the term moire pattern.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sjael:
How should I put this.. I would be extremely surprised if you noticed any PenTile pattern vsibility on the original Droid X. :D

But there isn't anything super wrong with PenTile. Especially not at 315 (hell, even 285) ppi, where it should be practically indistinguishable from an RGB display. Motorola dropped the ball with everything between the Atrix and the Bionic by using RGBW PenTile in aggressive power-saving mode (responsible for poor colors) on displays that weren't dense enough (responsible for pattern visibility) to get away with it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ghost010:
i come here to answer your questions.

yes the dock/bar /onscreen buttons will be hidden in movies.

thats what google said in the release video.

they also said ICS will be gesture heavy and long press is removed.

so i am asuming you have to gesture to summon the buttons back up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
S-lcd uses less power than amoled with average usage. I dont have any experience with super amoled plus, but regular amoled and super amoled have proven to be battery hogs even blacking out as much as you can in your themes and browser. A lot of nexus one users did/tried to change their nexus to slcd when there was an amoled screen shortage because of this fact. Based on looks i would rather have an amoled, but based on practicality, its better to have slcd. The current used is linear. The current used by amoled jumps all over the place and is much higher when wbite is showing. Its a micromanagement obsession thing to try and keep everything black on amoled and kind of defeats the purpose of having amoled. With that being said, i am wondering if samsung has made any noticeable improvement with their super type screens.

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnchad14:
One of the advertised benefits of super amoled was reduced battery consumption, but as you I've only had an amoled to experience thus far..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
They advertised that with amoled also but its been proven otherwise. Im not sure how well + does but seeing as the exynos chip uses more power than other current chipsets and the mali 400 is believed to be 65nm, which might be wrong, (because the whole soc should be same size) a conclusion can be made that + screens are a lot more efficient than their predecessors. But seeing as this is a new super amoled screen, some improvements might've beena made and samsung is saving the + moniker for their handsets. We will have to have one in our hands to draw a better conclusion.

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] drhill:
Well the X2 has a pentile display. So maybe they just got confused.

From what I've read the only people complaining about the pentile display are those who haven't seen the Galaxy Nexus yet. Every blogger who played with the phone loved the screen. That put me at ease. I was leery at first because the N1's screen is nice but I noticed the pentile issues and what Motorola has done to their displays should be criminal (as with their bootloaders). But 720p (and no Moto hands in the cookie jar) seems to fix any trade offs with the technology.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] K.D.M.:
TRUE!!! they said it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
It goes away but I'm yet the see that area used for anything else
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
From http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CanaganD:
Redo of calculations on pixel density:

3.5" diagonal on iPhone 4/4s, Meizu M9

= 2.901" x 1.957" (calculated from trigonometry)

= 5.677 square inches of screen

Resolution of 960 x 640

= total pixel count of 614400

= total sub pixel count of 1843200 (614400 x 3 subpixels per pixel, RGB repeated)

= 324678.5 subpixels per square inch (1843200 sub pixels / 5.677 square ")

4.65" diagonal on Galaxy Nexus

= 4.052 x 2.28 (calculated from trig)

= 9.23 square inches of screen (notice this is a lot larger than on the iPhone 4, Meizu M9)

Resolution of 1280 x 720

= total pixel count of 921600

= total sub pixel count of 199696.6 (921600 x 2 subpixels per pixel, RG and BG alternating repeated)

Totals:

iPhone 4/4s, Meizu M9

324,678.5 sub px per sq inch

Galaxy Nexus

199,696.6 sub px per sq inch

=/\=
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
This quote proves what I believed. Is not used, the buttons just " goes away". Doesn't say the area is used. Unless some how I miss read that
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Yeah, you misread that, the third option is to remove them completely from the screen and give the app access to the entire screen.

The first option is to turn them into dots (as we've seen already and like HC).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
Got cha. Thanks bro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Just came across an example of it btw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paDABBppckk

At about 12:50 he goes into youtube, and then goes into fullscreen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] esincho:
Bro.. the area where the buttons are wasn't used when it went full screen. How u missed that?