yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Patience IS a virtue.

Albie1937: We can either stay above the fray or be part of it.

We are making excellent progress with this thread. We are here to provide INCENTIVE

to developers and bring many heads together to achieve 1 common goal:

An ICS ROM so we won't be at the mercy of whenever Samsung/Sprint bestows it upon us.

Glenn :)

P.S. For the sake of all developers, I hope you do have happy lives away from tech toys because I regret

devoting too much of my life to businesses & not slowing down long enough to have any kids of my own.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
U believe that is for donation ware and devs asking money

It doesnt apply to the public offering the money
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
Probably the way mods interpret it. But to me it says not donations up front are allowed.. But i don't care regardless.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Donation Debate

For the third & final time:

NOBODY ON THIS THREAD IS MAKING A DONATION !

If and when we get the ICS ROM we want,

THEN we will show our APPRECIATION

by making donations.

Case closed, time to move on to productive posts again.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Don't feed trolls
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paranoid android85:
This thread is like saying "we're donating money for the sun to rise". It's going to happen regardless. You think devs and rom flashers are going to pick between gingerbread and ics? No. Smh. It's going to be a transition. Everyone with a e4gt will be on ics in the next few months. I guarantee donating will not help the process. Devs will do it regardless
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] aleph23:
If Samsung is the first to do it, I am not giving them an extra $50! Just to be clear!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
We understand its going to happen. This is incentive to bring it to us asap. CM7 isn't even out for our phones as of yet. It's just a nudge for any dev to get it to us before another phone.

For example if one person tells u that they want you to hang out and they'll be eternally grateful but this other guy says if u hang out with me ill give you $100, then the hard reality is that money talks and ur gonna go with the guy that's paying.

We are essentially just donating for first dibs at ICS.

---------- Post added at 11:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:42 PM ----------

If samsung is the first to give us ics then i would have lost all hope for humanity lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
^^^ WINNING.

Sent from my Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Stop feeding the trolls

As was pointed out to me by another donor on this thread,

let those of us who are here posting something POSITIVE

agree to IGNORE those posting nothing but NEGATIVE.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paranoid android85:
lol ummm...idk it would be pretty creepy if a guy paid me $100 to hangout with him. especially if he drives a van and has a mustache
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
It was merely an example broken down to the simplest thing I could think of.

Disclaimer: I do not advise anyone to hangout with someone becuase they paid you. Especially if the person in question drives a van and has a mustache.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
I didn't make that leap, seems like a huge reach to make that connection
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paranoid android85:
Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Internet trolls go to prison

INTERNET TROLLS SENT TO PRISON

Ask Raphael Golb or Sean Duffy what can happen to an internet troll. Both

men received prison sentences. One for 18 weeks, the other 6 months.

From Wikipedia: In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous,

or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum,

chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response

or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Trolling also falls under the category of Cyber Bullying.

From Wikipedia: "Cyber-bullying is the use of the Internet and related technologies to harm other people,

in a deliberate, repeated, and hostile manner"

All 50 states have laws that explicitly address electronic forms of stalking, harassment or cyberbullying.

I have a page on my main business website devoted to criminals

who thought they could break the law without getting caught.

I helped put some of them in prison.

If you're a troll and believe you can't be caught & prosecuted, keep posting.

Glenn Welt :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.. speaking in an open forum is not bullying..

You can't simply state your opinion, and expect not have conflicting opinions.. called freedom of speach, and as long as it isn't a clear violation of xda rules, don't expect people to stop posting..

And those cases you mentioned, one is in the UK, and about Facebook stalking causing a girl to kill herself.. the other is identity theft and harassment VIA email.. talk about a stretch..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Right back at you. Pretty sure you put words in his mouth. Dev or no dev your trolling. Spades a spade

It's pretty simple report the thread and move on, but it looks like trolling
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
@OP - PM me if you get a solid lead on this thread and i will happily donate or if it's even close. Otherwise this thread is getting trolled pretty hard by some surprising members. Pretty sure this keeps up and its Pelican Bay aka lockdown haha
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
I have no reason to report this thread.. I just stated that the way I interpret the rules it is against the rules.. I'm no mod though and how I interpret things doesn't really matter. It doesn't bother or offend me, I just don't believe its being conducted fairly. If there is a way for a bounty thread to be conducted fairly.

I think its misleading to think that getting ics before a source release (device, not sdk) that fully works is even a possibility. If it is done, it will more than likely be by a group, and will still be quite a while.

I am of the belief that contributing to the development of this device, or any other, means contribution of ideas, development, support, aesthetic improvements etc.. not just throwing money at it. I think when a donation is given it should not include a quid pro quo, and should be for prior works.. including a track record of support and further updates.

Just my 2 cents. And i didn't put words in his mouth, he said he couldn't make Roms because he has a life...

Let me also add that I have nothing against any person in this thread, just the idea behind it...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
I think you missed the mark but it's all cool. He seemed remiss that he hadn't spent more time on purely pleasure pursuits as opposed to work and business. Secondly no one has paid a cent that I am aware of. This is simply stating publicly that your willing to donate with the assumption completely voluntary and to your terms alone. I wouldn't expect anything less and to make wide assumptions there is anything to the contrary should be reported as applicable. But a la Tim Tebow currently these threads also evoke such passionate polarizing responses. If anything this thread is a testament to the community and its collective intelligence and extraordinary problem solvers. But that's just me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mmmajor:
I'll donate $5...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Thank you

Thank you for you pledge

and for getting us back on track.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffyv2:
How can u guys call your selfs some good people if your just bash devs like Chris?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jerdog:
Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!

If this doesn't stop right here and now I will close this thread and infract the lot of you for the absolute idiocy you have displayed. All of you classify as trolling - so knock it off.

Now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Will of fire:
I thought they are not donating they are pledges ? I can pledge 5 just for the Rom working not as a everyday driver but just too see it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Thank you

We are accepting pledges ONLY for a completed ICS ROM

and only if we receive it before a Samsung or Sprint release.

Thank you for your $5 pledge.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Samsung/Sprint updates

You are correct.

Today Samsung/Sprint released the Gingerbread update for Epic 4G.

At this rate we might not see the ICS update for our Epic 4G touch until

VERY lare Summer 2012. Anybody else have any insider info that says otherwise?

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
Does drew the dude that i guess finished his port of ics to the nexus s know about this thread and the bounty

Cause he is now porting it to other phones

Nexus one cause he has one

And droid incredable cause idk

Maybe if he finds out he will help here
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
He's not done with it yet. It's still in beta. He's trying to get a RC out based on the gnex dump. But it was a good idea. I was using his ics betas up until I sold my nexus a few days ago and they were awesome. I shot him an email and hit him up on g+ so hopefully he looks our way. I'm sure he'd be very welcomed lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Directing developers to this ICS Reward Thread

Thanks for making another developer aware of and our reward pledges.

Is "drew the dude" the name of this developer?

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dakalter:
Ill pledge 2 bucks as its all i can spare. I look forward to ics.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
no lol. its Drew Garen. heres his website if you wanna check out the work hes done for the ns and the n1

www.DrewGaren.com
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Drew Garen

Thanks. Looked at his sites and the guy seems very talented.

I'll send him an invitation to see if he can or will to work on an ICS ROM for us.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
if anyone has twitter then it seems like that would the quickest way to contact him (@drewgaren) according to the ns port thread. i dont have one or else id just tweet him myself
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Drew Garen

I found his direct email address and sent him the invitation.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Alex1x:
Count me in $5 (edit, make it $10 from me)

Btw, since I've never used paypal... How are the funds transfered?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Your $10 pledge

We are not collecting donations. Your $10 is a pledge to make a donation

to a developer AFTER he or she has delivered a working & stable ICS ROM to us.

The developer must also deliver before Sprint or Samsung delivers one to us

or all our pledges are void.

Based on consensus opinions, we expect the ICS ROM sometime between now and February 2012.

If anything changes, I'll be posting it at beginning and end of this thread.

Thank you for your $10 pledge!

Glenn :)

P.S. Paypal transfers money from your bank account but you can also

add a credit card and choose to have the funds sent that way.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
ICS REWARD Thread Updates

Thanks to those of you who have contributed to:

$1582 in pledged donations

55 people that made those pledges

and over

23,000 views of this thread

I wonder who will make the next $18 pledge(s) that puts us over $1600 ?

Glenn :)

P.S. I'm sure a few viewers will be happy to hear,

that I will no longer be using size 3 text in my posts

unless I have a REALLY BIG & GOOD announcement for us.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] joetrisman:
Anyone try to take beezy or drewgarden's rom and do something like this - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1312595 ? Seems pretty straightforward to get it booting, but I'm sure I'm missing something. Then again, some of the guys in the thread seemed like they had luck. Id definitely hop on this and try to hack something together but I'm getting killed in school right now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Unfortunately, Samsung kernels are different than HTCs, and that change on HTCs are much easier to do. Samsung's require the initramfs to repack the kernel which I don't know much about. I'm working on it though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Samsung kernels

Thanks for working on it for us. I hear Samsung kernels are tough to work on.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
I am kinda feeling this movement the more I read. Put me down for 20 and if we get stronger I might up that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bubby323:
Unfortunately, it's not that straight forward. Yes, it's booting, but that guide is a little too simple for our phone. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
Can you check your twitter bubby? :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Feeling the movement

Yes, I believe we have the attention of some top developers now

and thanks for joining us with your $20 pledge.

I received an email tonight from Drew Garen.

He said "If I had the device I could work on it"

Anybody wanna send him an E4GT for Christmas?

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
Anyone wanna give their share of the bounty early to get him a bad esn epic touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffyv2:
The fun begins....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cordell12:
If your gonna spend the $ at least get the man a device he can use!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Providing devices to developers

After reviewing the guidelines for XDA, we're not allowed to make advance monetary donations to developers.

In addition, if we did supply an E4GT to a developer, there's no guarantee that he or she would be the one

to provide an acceptable finished ICS ROM.

We already have a number of developers with E4GT phones that are working on the ICS ROM.

One or more of them, such as PhantomHacker, has already informed us (on this thread) that he is working on ICS.

This also means that one or more of them will likely be completing the ROM sooner.

Thanks to those of you who have directed developers to this thread and if you know of any other developers

that have access to an E4GT and possess the skills to build an ICS ROM, please continue making them aware

of our pledged donations for whomever delivers an acceptable E4GT ICS ROM before all others.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DDarden:
I will donate $20 to the cause
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mmmajor:
I just wanna say thanks Weltwon for putting all your hard work into making this thread..and thanks for all the developers trying make this happen..I cant wait for ICS.. ;-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cihanleanne:
come on lets do this
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
you're welcome

nice to be appreciated.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cobraboy85:
I'm sorry... but this thread is simply retarded lol.

"Throws money at situation to make things happen sooner than humanly possible"

Is the source code even released yet? Any dev will automatically be right on top of this as soon as it is so what is the point of paying somebody for something that can't even be accomplished yet.

HOWEVER... to those who say a full, tweaked port is impossible... you are wrong. It will just take some time
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cordell12:
From the SDK it will take longer than waiting for source and getting a "real" port.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cobraboy85:
I never mmentioned the sdk. That is pretty much useless.

And where are all these donations going now that we aren't "allowed to make advance donations" op collects a buttload of money then all the sudden oops sorry we can't do this anymore...hahaha.

I don't mean to be raining on peoples parade here but it will be a LONG time before there is stable version out... let alone one that is flawless. Throwing money up in the air will not change that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
AGAIN, there have been NO donations only PLEDGES. It's almost addressed on every page
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cobraboy85:
Oh hahaha my bad. Fail
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffyv2:
Whoa there...looks like this thread is getting to u if u think u can say this
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] robert_ayala:
No offense but I'm not sure that tone is really necessary. You screaming at others to shut up is not mature and I'm sure you would likely get better results without having to resort to that method. I would hope that we, as adults, could be told of what the offense is and asked to stop in an adult like fashion.

With that said, I don't get how a thread based on trying to do a great thing for the community got to this level. I agree that everyone just needs to keep their comments in a positive light and understand we are trying to do something good for everyone here.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cobraboy85:
I'm not going to edit, simply because I want people to see I was in the wrong for making assumptions about you welton. It was my bad for not reading and comrehnding properly what was going on here... pledge... not donation.

Sorry bud
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Moving forward

Apology accepted.

As that old "definition of assume" goes, sometimes we all need to better access a situation before jumping to conclusions. As such, I will assume you made an honest mistake. None of us wants to break XDA rules and miss all the great work by the developers on this site.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
Any progress reports from Phantom Glenn?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Lento10:
I am pledging $5 for ics rom.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
I'm about to unsubscribe to this thread because I see nothing but little dipshits trolling in here. I will take back even considering a $50 donation if a mod/original poster doesn't handle this. Every single time. This isn't a debate, say something useful or hop off of the thread. This 3rd grader "I can't have an opinion, I'm not trolling" BLAH BLAH BLAH crap needs to stop.

THANKS!

Sent from my Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
I just dont want the thread closed
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Guys, jerdog has already come in and said to knock it off. Please don't get this thread closed. If you don't have anything nice to say or anything to contribute, move the hell on. No sense to start a pissing match with people on the internet. Enough is enough, I can tell you that it's just annoying to me to come in here to read the thread and there is nothing but troll turds everywhere. Just let it go, people.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] acrown:
Edit: sent a pm instead
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
Thanks guys for trying to keep the fourm clean

I hate how cause im not a dev i get so much crap from other members

Kinda the reason i didnt reply to that other post

I figured some dev would reply for me (thanks viperboy and acrown) and if i did reply they would just troll more
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
They usually won't troll a dev when they want something, they just wait until after all the hard work is done to troll lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
Dont you know it

Good look with all your roms in work and i cant wait viper rom 3.0 and viper rom 4.0 (ics rom)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Honestly, I need some major help with the kernel and I haven't been able to get a hold of chris recently. I would love to talk to netarchy too but he hasn't been around much either.

Thanks for the kind words. Back on topic, everyone!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
One Common Goal: ICS ROM for E4GT

EVERYONE: Before jerdog tells us all to SHUT UP again or shuts down this thread,

I'd like to remind EVERYONE that:

We are NOT here to gather opinions.

We are NOT here collecting money in advance.

We are NOT here to do battle with trolls.

We are NOT here to break rules or have ourselves banned from XDA.

This thread is here with ONE common goal:

Incentive and information leading to the creation of an ICS ROM for Epic 4G Touch smartphones.

All donors want to enjoy the new features sooner, rather than whenever Samsung/Sprint

chooses to provide the ICS ROM to us, which is why we have made our donation pledges.

Thank you to those of you that have pledged donation.

Thank you to those of you who have directed developers to this thread.

Thank you to those of you have reported progress on achieving our goal.

Rather than responding to trolls on this thread which feeds their need for attention,

I suggest that we simply post continued pledges, developer information

and ICS ROM progress reports.

However, I do have a new suggestion for dealing with trolls:

Use the "report post option" (the exclamation point inside brown triangle to right of post #).

If mod gets enough reports, I suspect troll(s) will receive the deserved action(s).

Back on topic:

Today's nationwide Best Buy newspaper ad has 2 pages promoting the Sprint Samsung Epic 4G Touch

for $199 including a free $99 Blu-Ray player. This will boost sales of E4GT smartphones

and possibly garner more attention from developers at the same time.

Glenn :)

P.S. @Dj21o: OP has now responded to your post.

We will now be looking for your $50 donation pledge.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jerdog:
I do not suggest this course of action - use the report post option instead (the exclamation point inside the triangle).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
Oh I will when the ROM gets here, and if it is even satisfying to me. I get LOS out the ass on every single kernel except stock.

Look for it when the ROM gets here. I'll let you know otherwise. :)

Sent from my Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ripalsanghani:
Notion ink executive says ICS source drops on the 17th. Apparently he has been right about previous releases as well. Still speculation but hey, anything to keep us excited! Just an FYI.

Android central wrote the article for those that want to see it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bubby323:
If the source is released I will compile us an ics aosp rom. Seeing as I have the device files all setup and ready to go.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AvatarOfFrost:
Google should release the source any day now. The Galaxy Nexus is right around the corner.

What about the kernel? AOSP ICS doesn't work properly with our kernel, right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stangdriverdoug:
You should just wait and release ICS and CM at the same time. Heck add Miui to the mix too:)

Got boost?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bubby323:
Haha. Once i get my dev station back up.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
Any luck at all? With the machine?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Sounds Great !

Numerous media outlets are reporting the same story about ICS code being released on 11/17.

Let's hope it's true!

Glenn :)

P.S. Not sure how many others have tried this or how an ICS ROM will react to overclocking

but tonight I installed CPU Master Free on my E4GT that's currently running Calkulin V1.0

and ICS Theme V1.5 beta 2. I set Min to 1200Mhz and Max to 1600Mhz available on boot.

Speed improvement is amazing!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
You do realize that your battery will be horrible, right? Your phone won't go below 1.2GHz even when it's sleeping and should be running at a much slower speed. Horrible idea, I would recommend SetCPU and reading up on how to setup profiles and speeds.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
1200-1600is a dumb idea lol.. your battery is gunna drain. So much cuz anything it does will run at minimum 1200mhz...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Speed vs. battery life

Thanks guys. I know extra speed drains batteries, just like driving at 150mph reduces gas mileage

(but it's fun when you can do it safely). Life is full of trade-offs.

BTW, I changed CPU settings to Conservative with Min at 200MHz and Max at 1600MHz

(so I won't have to carry a spare battery in back pocket).

I wonder how ICS ROMs will perform and affect our battery life. Reports I've read

say we may see improvements in both.

Glenn:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paranoid android85:
You would be my new hero
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Well, I did some work on the ROM tonight and, unfortunately, not too much progress. I have it semi-booting, it does not full boot. It looks like it's trying to play the boot animation but then I get a TON of crap in the logcat about drm.DrmManager not starting. It seems to recognize the touchscreen because I get errors in logcat saying it's ignoring touches because there is no focused window, or something like that everytime I touch the screen.

I will try to work on it today after work a little bit and see what I can get done on it :)