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[Atrix 4G General] 10tonhammr:
That's funny, cause my Atrix died on me as well. Literally died. Had nothing to do with anything I did to it- just hardware failure. Anyway, I didn't want to waste my upgrade on a replacement phone (saving it for the Galaxy Nexus :D), and wanted to try something else, so I ordered an SGSII off contract. I LOVED my Atrix, really loved it, but I honestly think the SGSII outperforms it in most ways. Just my opinion. But GOT DAYUM do I miss my fingerprint reader. :D
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
Did ya'll try to get a warranty replacement?

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Atrix 4G General] spielnicht:
I thought about it, especially as the Nexus One lured me to Android, but the 4.65 inch screen to me is something I don't want any part of. I honestly think that's bloody ridiculous.

I tried...but my unlocked bootloader didn't help :D
[Atrix 4G General] Blind_Guardian:
I did, unlocked bootloader and all. Sold the replacement once I got it though.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Wait till you see Samsung's Note device. I refuse to call that thing a phone, even though some will try to make calls with that thing...
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
iPhone is for people who want their hands held from day 1, until their next iPhone.

I know that you said that you are not a fan of cases, but I still would recommended a cheap TPU case. It takes care of the "slippery back" issues, the phone IMO feels better in the hand, plus the phone is more bearable to hold when it gets warm...
[Atrix 4G General] Swizzle:
GS2 Skyrocket is tempting, but I don't think there's enough on a normal GS2 to rip me from the ATRIX, just wish AT&T had a faking LTE network in California where ~11% of the population lives...
[Atrix 4G General] digg1980:
Avoid the RAZR else try it with exchange policy in place

I have just returned the Motorola RAZR back to Rogers and replaced it with the Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE due to few issue the biggest of it is the battery did not survive more than 6 hours a normal 3G usage and dispensed annoying heat. Actually as I was one of the lucky few to experience the two devices first hand I have written a full comparison between the two pointing out the reasons I & my friends had problem with the Motorola RAZR and returned it for the Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE. You can look at the post at: Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE vs Motorola Razr

I don't want to be too critique of Motorola as usually they have quite good phones, but they have a lot to work on with the RAZR as they have compromised so much to get it to be the thinnest in the market. Take my advice and avoid the RAZR, else do what we did and ensure that your provider accept that if you don't like the device you can swap it within two weeks. Rogers has that policy by default, & I believe most other providers here in Canada and US have it though there is always a catch so becareful to read the terms for exchange as in Rogers you can exchange it within 2 weeks, but as long you have use it for less than 30 mins of voice calling!! not sure how would you go for 2 weeks and use it for less than 30 mins of voice calling 2 mins/day. So watch out!!
[Atrix 4G General] notNetter159:
"Is anyone else not impressed with Galaxy S2? "

Nope. I'm impressed, other than maybe the front screen, it looks nice.
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
The only phone ive been impressed with this year is the Amaze. i would love to get my hands on one but im not willing to pay $400+ for any phone. the radar looks nice as well, titan would be if the dpi wasn't ****. the camera didnt really look that great on the galaxy nexus :o do love the design and screen on it though. wish was better materials though, but that is expected from sammy.
[Atrix 4G General] coolnow:
I had another go at the GS2 today and have to say, is it me or does it not show certain colours well? It was all bluish when i was browsing the web and when i was playing Angry Birds, it had a weird tint to everything which i couldn't see on the Atrix? However, on the homescreen and during viewing pictures, the screen was very nice, but otherwise, it's not all that it's said to be, or is it just me?
[Atrix 4G General] stratax:
the "blue tint" has been going around since the first batch of galaxy devices. the SUPERDUPERMEGAAMOLED (whatever samsuck calls it these days) screen doesnt display whites that great and another downside on that, when using bright theming or using whites a lot drains the battery life fasters. with LCD its fine.
[Atrix 4G General] matthew5025:
Have the razr and its not that bad! It's too wide for my hands, but battery is acceptable (granted I have the GSM one not the CDMA, LTE may be a problem) and heat was NEVER a issuse, I had 720p video playing on youtube via flash for 30 minutes, something that would skyrocket my atrix battery to 80+ deg, but the razr felt cool to touch. Also, after using the razr, the atrix felt fat. Never had that feeling before:p
[Atrix 4G General] Gutterball:
Just grabbed 2 galaxy s2's one for me and one for my daughter for a penny each refurbished but can't beat that price and hell no I'm not selling my atrix!! I'm keeping both!

On another note.I don't understand the love for the galaxy nexus though? The hardware is worse and it has no support for external storage!! Thats just crazy!! Why did they do that?!
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Hardware worse than what? The SGS2? It's a tad behind the SGS2, but they went with the OMAP due to the Exynos not being compatible with LTE. Combine that with the Verizon Launch and you get a weaker SoC. The OMAP still handily beats the Tegra 2, though. You buy the GNexus for the gorgeous screen and for the Google Experience, first to updates, first to AOSP ROMs, best dev community of all devices, long support from Google, etc. I'm selling my Atrix the second the GNexus I won arrives.
[Atrix 4G General] Gutterball:
The gpu on the sgs2 and the cpu and camera are both better then that of the galaxy nexus plus the nexus has no external sdcard support! I don't know about you but I use both my internal sd and external sdcard on my atrix and they're both almost always filled with crap! So if anything I need more space not less.

I do agree though about galaxy nexus will be first to update,better dev support,LTE enabled and the hd higher res screen might be better but beyond that it seems to me to be the weaker device as far as hardware IMHO.

That processor is badass in the gs2 and the gpu is at 400 mhz and I got the friggin phone for a penny lol but ya know what? opinions are like assholes and mine could stink who knows? who cares? lol :D
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
I blame verizon for the GNexus not having a exynos processor honestly. And really, the only thing the GNexus is behind in is GPU. The CPU is on par with the SGS2. I don't mind the storage myself as I only store music really on my phone and a few ROMs and books.
[Atrix 4G General] zefir738:
i'm not impressed by the SGS2 at all. sure, it has an awesome screen, but that's about all that's amazing about it. personally, i love my Atrix, and wouldn't give it up for any other phone on the market right now. CM7 runs beautifully on it, and the fingerprint scanner is a really nice feature. the thing's durable too.
[Atrix 4G General] Climber Ty:
my buddy has the SGS2 and he's just waiting for the right time to update to either the Atrix 2 or the Galaxy Nexus...
[Atrix 4G General] sanriver12:
Samsung Galaxy S II Ice Cream Sandwich ROM leaks out

http://youtu.be/ISAI6qbQm6U
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icedd:
Hey guys,

So I recently just got my USB Jig to get my phone out of softbrick (after realizing newer build models cannot use Odin One-click..)

I have a 1107 build, so what can I do to revert it back to stock? Odin won't work for me, and I just want to ultimately flash a custom ROM on it. Should I flash GB bootloaders first or what?

Thank you.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viny2cool:
you can use anything except one click for Jf6 by design gears...u can flash GB bootloader...no problems...
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrhaley30705:
Which stock are attempting to return to?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icedd:
Anything really. I was on ECLAIR before. (On a Rogers phone)

I just want to get out of the soft brick (cellphone--!--computer) to flash MIUI or CM7.

I bricked it by trying to flash the AT&T bootloaders.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrhaley30705:
Then look through development and pick a stock package. Flash that, then try to apply whatever custom ROM you want. But, if you want GB bootloaders, flash those before flashing MIUI/cm7.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icedd:
Is there anything I can use to flash stock packages without using Odin? I have a new build number and Oneclick will only brick it again.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrhaley30705:
How do you feel about Heimdall?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icedd:
Thank you for your quick responses, I really appreciate it.

I will use this guide to try Heimdall: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1113195

Would you have a suggestion on what particular stock ROM I should revert back to? I don't really care for any particular bootloaders at this point in time.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viny2cool:
depends what kind of custom rom u want to flash later...

If u want to flash CM7/MIUI, then flash to any stock eclair/froyo or Att GB bootloader...

if u want to flash ATT GB roms, then pick any stock GB bootloader from the sticky thread in development section..I personally used Adam outler's one click heimdell stock to KH3

if u want to flash i9000 based GB roms, then flash i9000 GB bootloaders....
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icedd:
Can I use this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1266172 to revert back to stock FROYO?

Actually I should try using Heimdall's One-Click Unbrick first..

edit: Heimdall's One-Click does not recognize my phone in Download mode (after plugging in Jig and then plugging it into computer) or in soft-brick screen.

Will proceed to use Heimdall's One-Click Total Stock

edit: seems like Heimdall's One-Click Total Stock doesn't work either. Computer cannot recognize phone. Help please?

edit: Did Total Stock again on a Windows computer, successful flashing!
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] holeindalip:
Heimdall uses different drivers did you install those?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icedd:
Yup it is all good now. I am now on FROYO now. Going to proceed to try and flash CM7 on it for the first time. Thanks guys!
[General Topics] gtrab:
I am sick of reading biased news and comments about the Pentile screens,

some say "don't care" and some say "it's crap", with or without evidence.

This "oppinions" war has become more evident after the internets learned about the Nexus's "sinful" PenTile screen :confused:

I just found this very interesting and objective article and wanted to share it with all of you:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134

Hope you find it useful a I did.
[General Topics] xManMythLegend:
The NOTE screen sure is green.
[General Topics] kanariya:
I don't see such a big deal in real world usage.

But I'm not one of those people with microscopic eyes.
[General Topics] Gusar321:
Exactly. It's pretty much placebo. The only difference I've seen over time is in lighting. Used to be you only saw a perfect pic when looking at the screen from exactly one point, any tiny deviation would be hugely noticeable. Now that that's gone, it's all the same. Unless the resolution is really low, like 480x320, then you notice the grid. Beyond that, like I said, it's all the same.
[General Topics] cjdalessio:
Definitely not placebo. I had issues before knowing exactly what was different with the screen. I tried but could not get over the sense that the screen was crawling even with no interaction. Very disconcerting and after a few minutes use, definite eye fatigue. I could not do my usual news/blog reading on the train every day.

I know folks that have no issues with pentile so it's definitely not a universally bad thing. But it's a troubling trend to me because it significantly limits my options.
[General Topics] kaminari84:
i've had a Samsung S8500 with Super Amoled PenTile screen (800x480), 3.3" then i bought my Desire S with the same nominal resolution on a 3.7" screen non-PenTile...the difference is clear even if the dpi is lower on Desire S, nothing shattering but without PenTile images are sharper
[General Topics] 24kbgold:
Some people see it and some don't. I noticed the "screen door" effect immediately on the Photon. I've heard that if you turn down the brightness it will lessen the effect but makes it harder to see the screen in sunlight. Most just keep auto brightness on and deal with it.
[General Topics] tylerwatt12:
It's fine, and now with 300+ DPI phones, you cant even tell it's using PenTile

-Nexus S owner
[General Topics] Sjael:
That's because it's a macro shot of a screen made up of 50% green sub-pixels. It will look white to the naked eye. :rolleyes:

Motorola uses RGBW PenTile instead of the AMOLED's RGBG. It's really not the PenTile matrix at fault there - it's their use of it in a way too-large screen, combined with aggressive power-saving that causes off-colors and pattern visibility. :)

It's actually a bit different to the issues some have with RGBG. RGBG is actually pretty close to RGB stripe, but it relies on the make-up of the human eye. A relatively small number of people have a certain mutation that means their eyes don't exactly work the correct way for RGBG PenTile to be effective.

At the Galaxy Note and Galaxy Nexus' far higher pixel densities, the RGBG PenTile effect shouldn't even be visible to the naked eye any more. How it will affect those people who actually have a legitimate problem viewing it, we won't know until these screens actually reach the end-users.
[General Topics] Kailkti:
To be honest I can't tell the difference with screens between my sgs 2 and captivate. Maybe my eyes aren't as good anymore because I regularly do art...
[General Topics] sygeek:
There is no noticeable difference between the two technologies that will be noticeable to the naked eye in normal circumstances. Period.
[General Topics] yujin_11:
it really boils down to the user's perception of clarity of the screen.

but as long as it responds quickly that would be enough
[General Topics] Toss3:
What a load of bollocks. There's a huge difference - period.
[General Topics] sygeek:
You might as well want to elaborate to back yourself.

It’s actually next to impossible to see the dotiness or graininess of the on-screen image, on PenTile smartphones.
[General Topics] peacekeeper05:
This is why i am excited to see LG's true HD 720p AH-IPS display found on the optimus LTE(s. Korea only). Reports and reviews are coming in that it is the best display on all mobile phone screen technology. Uses less power than super amoled and has crisper and sharper colors than the retina. :)
[General Topics] Jaunzems:
I haven't seen any review about that phone. However, I hope that these words don't come from LG Marketing team, which wrote in their product package manual that less gamut on Nova screen (67%) is better than SuperAMOLED's 107%.

Sent from my Galaxy iPhone
[General Topics] lehto:
No its not. If your eyesight is still in good condition you can notice the wierd effects like checkerboard, blue/red dots in fonts and jaggy edges. This is coming from using Galaxy S, but with Galaxy Note and Nexus Primes higher pixel densities I doubt theres going to be a big issue.
[General Topics] cjdalessio:
That depends an awful lot on exactly what you're looking at. With text, I have yet to try a pentile where the drawbacks weren't painfully obvious - and for me it does turn into pain in the form of eye strain and a headache if I keep at it.

With pictures it is sometimes obvious depending on subject. Moving pictures I rarely notice it but still develop eye strain after a while.

If you can't see it, you can't. Perhaps akin to color blindness. But to flat out claim it's next to impossible to see when it's actually impossible not to see for some is disingenuous. I'm not sure what kind of elaboration you want to convince you we're not just making stuff up as I can't easily show you what I see.

99% of my phone use is text. No games,rarely movies or pictures. Pentile displays I've tried all fail to be invisible for me so for now, they remove a lot of devices from consideration. I still try them just in case.
[General Topics] ckoadiyn:
Does the og EVO have pentile idle if it does if it does and the EVO 3d doesn't I want to compare to see otherwise I would Like to look at a lcd non pentile vs a pentile not a lcd vs a amoled. I think that's a unfair judgement or if someone can tell me a phone that has a pentile amoled screen that's new I know the sgsii isn't I'm just curious to compare. This is like can one see the diff between 720p or 1080p. Some people say they look the same and iv had some say they don't see the hype in bluray which I find crazy. So before I throw my thoughts in is like to compare.
[General Topics] lowandbehold:
Call me crazy, but I could never let the type of screen determine my cell phone purchase...
[General Topics] ckoadiyn:
Lol I do just between lcd and amoled i notice the tints on the whites of amoled and I hate it lol
[General Topics] stanglifemike:
You're crazy.

Lol, just kidding man
[General Topics] sygeek:
You need to get your eyes checked.
[General Topics] cjdalessio:
Is that so?

They're in excellent working order as far as things like color gamut and contrast discernment - bit of vertical misalignment, astigmatism and nearsightedness. Last tested about 3 months ago.

I'd have your skepticism checked. It seems your levels are unhealthy.
[General Topics] gtrab:
I'd really like to know about an OBJECTIVE test method regarding the PenTile screen quality.

Also, and curiously enough, I've heard lots of negative comments about motorola pentile LCDs, but not from samsung AMOLED pentiles.
[General Topics] sygeek:
you should get that fixed.
[General Topics] lehto:
I doubt theres an objective test about it, it either bothers you or doesnt.

Thats because the motorola pentile is RGBW (theres a white subpixel) so it doesnt display stuff accurately because every 2nd pixel can only be blue/white or red/green or their combinations and to get "proper" colors you need to combine 2 pixels and perform a bit of black magic to get the right colors, this basically halves the resolution. With AMOLED pentiles you dont have this problem because its RGBG so with green colors you wont even notice it, because there is one green sub-pixel for every pixel, but with blue/red backgrounds which have variations it will look like checkerboard because only every 2nd pixel can do red or blue.
[General Topics] Thijsvr:
I'd have to check for myself. I'm going towards not liking the Pentile screens. I pretty much only use text on the phone and if it gives me problems then I wouldn't have much use for the device.

However I'm still using my OG Droid and I'm looking for a new device, so I'll move up in the world whatever way, but I just can't seem to find what I want. I'll just wait until I get to compare the screens irl.
[General Topics] Rusty!:
Not true at all.

I noticed a huge difference between the PenTile screen of my old Nexus One and the IPS-LCD screen of my Optimus 2X. It's not just me misremembering a difference either, it's obvious when using my friends Desire and my sisters Nexus One.
[General Topics] Gaugerer:
Here is a good review comparing pentile and non-pentile screens. Notice how clear the number on the train on the Note which is pentile compared to the others.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134
[General Topics] lehto:
Thats comparing apples to oranges, to compare Pentile to RGB matrix, a good idea would be to take for example Galaxy S and Galaxy S 2 because they share the same resolution.
[General Topics] Thijsvr:
I see the clarity of the numbers on the train, but that's only because it has such a high resolution. The edges of the numbers are very crisp on the Note screen, but I feel the iPhone screen looks more natural.
[General Topics] sygeek:
I'm not talking about the difference.
[General Topics] Rusty!:
Yes you are.

If there is an obvious difference between the two screens, then clearly PenTile's "dottyness/grainyness" is noticeable to the naked eye, despite your claim.
[General Topics] donharden2002:
I've got an atrix and just bought an atrix 2 yesterday and there is a huge difference. The atrix 2 screen looks great, I'll never go back to pentile again as long as I have a choice.

Just my opinion on it.

Sent from my MB865
[General Topics] sygeek:
Re-read this post: "It’s actually next to impossible to see the dotiness or graininess of the on-screen image, on PenTile smartphones."

Now, where exactly does it mention the difference.

Meh, leave it. I'm in no mood for an argument.
[General Topics] Rusty!:
If it's next to impossible to see the dottyness/grainyness, then that implies it would be next to impossible to see a difference between a PenTile screen and an RGB screen. It isn't.
[General Topics] synaesthetic:
The only reason I even know my NS's screen is Pentile is the barest hint of a green line on the left side of the screen when viewing a completely white web page.

As far as I'm concerned, I'd take my pentile AMOLED Nexus S over the bleedy, improperly-sealed IPS display on the LG G2x.
[General Topics] fester30:
I noticed the screen door thing on my Photon right away, having previously owned an Epic 4g. After a few days of use, I don't really notice. I leave on auto brightness most of the time. I think it depends on what is important to you. A more vibrant screen is not as important to me as a far superior antenna and bug-free experience, which I get with the Photon.
[General Topics] ph00ny:
As i said in the note thread, i would reserve my judgement until i see it in person. Sure there was quite a bit of jump in sharpness going from captivate's 4" pentile screen to GS2's 4.3" RGB screen but we are talking about a significant jump in resolution in case of nexus and note. Based on the posting, it looks like the sharpness is actually better than GS2 but it does suffer similar discoloration in some pictures
[General Topics] sygeek:
Is dottiness/graininess the only difference? Yes, there's a difference in this context, but to the naked eye, during normal usage, it is impossible to see dottiness in a pentile screen.

So, yup, it is impossible to "see a difference between a PenTile screen and an RGB screen" IN THIS CONTEXT.

Here's the source bro. Chill.
[General Topics] vis80k:
using nexus s. would not have noticed it, but once some told me about the thin green line at the left edge of the screen...I could not undo notocing this everytime...and am told this is due to nexus s being pentile..
[General Topics] Toss3:
Wow you must be really boneheaded not to understand that no amount of sources is going to change our minds. I have used a pentile screen and an RGB, and guess what? I noticed the pentile matrix every time I used it. I really wish I hadn't, but I did. Period. You can argue all you want, but first hand experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any source claiming differently.

It probably won't be as noticeable on the higher PPI screen, but it is still going to negatively affect the display quality. SOURCE
[General Topics] sygeek:
"Sources aren't going to change our mind" and then you mention the "source". WTF? You didn't even mention the display type and the phone you used. Anyway, I can bear with your stupidity.

First of all, the resolution is 1280 x 720 pixels. The dottiness won't be visible at this point.

Secondly, it's a Super AMOLED display. Not your LCD screen. This again adds to it, practically impossible for the naked eye to differentiate at this point.