yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Progress on ICS ROM

We appreciate all your efforts and update posts.

Based on reports that code will be released in 3 days,

wouldn't you be better off getting ready for the code?

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
True, but that's if source is actually out that day. And, to be honest, I haven't ever worked with AOSP source. I will do a ton of reading on it and see what I can come up with. The problem though is that even with the source, it's not just going to boot right away. It takes more than that, likely alot of editing of the kernel and such.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paranoid android85:
you should talk to bbedward. i think he's working on an aosp kernel for our phones
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Working with ICS source code

The more you learn, the sharper your brain will be when you reach my age!

Let us know if you need a tester.

In the meantime, I'll keep updating pledged donations.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bubby323:
I have an aosp kernel.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
My bad, wrong person! I hope this works out!

Bubby and I are going to try to work on this together a little bit and see what we can come up with :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HelicopterShowdown:
once source is up ill be able to help substantially. ive ported aosp to both evo and epic and got a good feel for it!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Progress on ICS ROM

Teamwork ... sounds good guys.

Have either of you looked at or tested any of the individual leaked apps from ICS?

I tried the face apk and wouldn't even install on E4GT.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Hit me up then, man. Always better to have more people working on this!

Won't work. It knows that it needs to be on SDK level 14 (ICS) to work.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jerdog:
Also known as Rohan wanting himself back in the news. They have never delivered on any promise. Highly sceptical given Google has never released the source before the device was released. Given that the release date for the Galaxy Nexus is November 17 - this may be true - however I don't recall Google releasing AOSP source that close to a new phone drop.... now kernel source yes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paranoid android85:
i didnt know that. i liked his zendroid kernel on the evo 4g, but i didnt like the way josh from savaged zen went about things when they joined. he tried to bully everyone that had a differernt opinion. im glad to hear you and bubby are working on aosp. i much prefer that over a stock based rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Woah woah woah, so so sorry! His name is similar to the major troll in those forums (don't remember his name). I'm very very sorry! I am going back to edit my post now! Yeah, the SZ guys were good with kernels.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
ICS Source Code

You may be right. Guess we'll all find out in 3 days.

From what you've said, Rohan sounds like male version of Gloria Allred.

Whatever releases on 11/17 can only help developers.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ripalsanghani:
http://m.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-source-code-now-being-pushed-git-servers

:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cobraboy85:
^that is a link to the ICS source code by the way… that should make things a bit easier for anybody who has been chomping at the bit to tackle this project.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leyvatron:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/T4XZJCZnqF8
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
I will be like every one else and post the link to source here, so much for the haters :D :D:D

LINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNKY
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bubby323:
Sad face. My laptop just had to kill itself.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leyvatron:
Laptop is dead? damn!!!! Whats plab B?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ripalsanghani:
Lol could not have happened at a worse time! Crashed?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
Mwuahahahaha ics (4.0.1)source is released. props to google. we were all thinking it was gonna drop on the 17th or later. let the race to ics begin lol. from the reports it seems we'll also see the honeycomb code too lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
You are going to build ics on a laptop .... wow

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...he-heavy-artillery-this-is-what-it-will-take/

Must be one hell of a laptop jbq recommends 8 core 16 gb of ram and still takes hours he says ... my quad core m501r dell only has 6gb ram ... would not undertake that build ...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ripalsanghani:
Wow thats crazy haha. Thats the kind of hardware algo traders use. Damn did not know that!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Everyone who wants to play with ics will invest lots of time and money in hardware ....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] deano0714:
Or have to wait a day to compile lol..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Unfortunately, source isn't fully uploaded yet and won't build. Give it some time, Google said they would let us know when it was ready. Plus, it will take some effort to get it booting on other devices right now.

And I really need a new lappy. I have a Sony with like 3 or 4GB memory and some crappy dual core processor lol I should really get myself an i7 machine or something!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stangdriverdoug:
If anyone is I the Cleveland area they can build on my laptop... Core I7 Sandridge with 8 gig of ram :)

Got boost?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lballer69:
****ing monster lol nice laptop
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Send me that, I will send you my Sony Vaio and a case for your phone from Best Buy for free :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] joetrisman:
my old lady is a microsoft developer and has the same setup. Too bad I can't get her to dev for android :o
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stangdriverdoug:
Where do I sign up viper? :)

Got boost?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Hey weltwon jbq released this early just for u .... so u have to make good on the talk .....

Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Christmas 2011 comes on November 14 !

Developers on your marks,

Get Set (with ICS Source Code),

GO !

The race to build our E4GT ICS ROM is now officially ON !

Sorry for going back to large text but this is BIG news !

Glenn :)

P.S. Vegas sportsbooks say we'll get a working & stable ICS ROM

before the start of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mmmajor:
Can't wait...can't wait....can't wait... :-P
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mmmajor:
Hahaha......still cant wait.....omg...lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
On a side note, any dev that needs a tester can count me in. Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tomyboombotz:
Get ur credit cards ready
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Attention donors

Just a reminder to those who have already made donation pledges

and those of you that may now join us:

When we receive the first ICS ROM that we can download & install

on our Epic 4G Touch phones, I will be contacting each donor to ask

how it is running on your phone.

All donors will vote on whether it has met our standards.

If 2/3 or more vote "YES" then all donors will be asked to promptly

make their donations to the winning developer.

In fairness to all developers and after 30+ years of building PCs,

testing software for Microsoft, Hp and publishing my own software,

I'm certain there will be imperfections (bugs) with the first ROM.

If I didn't make it clear to everyone before, I will make it clear now.

"Working & stable" means the ROM won't crash our rooted phones

and the major new features in ICS will all function (with exception

of NFC since we don't have Near Field Communication hardware).

Rewarding the winning developer with our pledged donations will send

a VERY strong message to all those who posted negative comments

on this thread. It will also restore trust in developers that have been

burned by people who promise donations but deliver nothing.

Ice Cream Sandwich won't be the last Android Operating System

so if we all hold up our ends of this bargain, we can do it again in

the future and feel really good about having accomplished something

positive, despite lots of negative opinions.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
I'm not a religious man but amen dude
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
Put a post in this thread when the poll comes out cause if im gonna donate i dont want to miss the poll you know
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
POLLING THE DONORS on this thread

As of now, there are 58 people who have pledged donations totaling $1627.

When I receive word that an ICS ROM is available to us, I will promptly post

a notice on this thread and I will send a copy by private message to each donor.

When ICS ROM becomes available NO ADDITIONAL DONOR PLEDGES will be accepted.*

This is necessary to avoid voting and polling problems.

Each donor will be expected to respond by private message within 3 days (72 hours).

As soon as either 39 "YES" votes or 19 "NO" votes have been received,

I will post that fact on this thread. In fairness to the developer and all donors,

any donor who does not respond within 3 days will be excluded. In other words,

if only 45 donors respond, we would need 31 "YES" votes or 16 "NO" votes

to determine the consensus opinion.

Results of the poll will be sent to all donors by private message

and posted on this thread shortly thereafter.

In the event that the majority (2/3 of of donors) have not voted "YES"

it will indicate the ROM is unacceptable. This will indicate to all developers

that we will test & vote on the next ICS ROM(s) made available to us,

until we have one that is acceptable by a majority vote.

Glenn :)

*Time to pledge your donation is BEFORE the first ICS ROM becomes available

if you want to be part of the voting & polling process.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Biker1:
Sounds good to me.

Looks like we're getting closer & closer ;-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
Just a note to the devs on the thread. Q posted that ics source is fully up and ready for sync
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lilredzmd:
Source Code is Out..

So now the source code is out..Lets see who gets my dough cheese..So ready to show this off to my co-workers using Apple :cool:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] clamknuckle:
Count me in for $5
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Posting completed ICS ROMs

Revised post added at current end of this thread
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
New Donor Pledge

Thank you for your new donation pledge.

You will be included in our testing, polling & voting process.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leyvatron:
On a side note: cyanogen posted on his twitter to check back in 2 months for CM9.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
I'm going on record as officially stating that this will end badly. You have no way to enforce your 2/3 rule on every donor unless you collect the donations UP FRONT, which is, as I understand it, not permitted by XDA rules. You also have no objective criteria for what constitutes a "stable" or "feature complete" ICS ROM.

And before you all decide to flame me for being negative, I am not being negative, I WANT ICS on my phone, and I want it as soon as possible. I am just being realistic and pointing out that this type of arrangement is set up to fail from the beginning.

Additionally, people need to temper their expectations for delivery time, as the ICS source code that was made available was specifically designed for the Galaxy Nexus, which as many of you know is drastically different from the E4gT in terms of hardware. This is a very major issue and will be extremely difficult to overcome until Samsung releases either an ICS compatible kernel or source code for an ICS compatible kernel. Even if we have an AOSP compatible kernel based on GB sources, it may not work with ICS.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Cyanogen

In 2 months I might be starting a REWARD thread

for our Jelly Bean ROM !

In all seriousness, based on the quality of the custom ROMs that several developers

have already given us for Android 3.1 and fact that Cyanogen provided nothing for us

in the past 2 months, CM builds for E4GT may become irrelevant. Time will tell.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Reporting trolls

We no longer flame, we simply use the REPORT button to report troll posts.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
Glenn, you really need to educate yourself about Android before you make statements like this. There is no such thing as a custom rom for Android 3.x, only custom kernels. The reason for this is that Google did not release the AOSP source code for Android 3.x, hence the reason why CM8 does not exist, as there is no AOSP source code to build CM8 from. AOSP is licensed under the Apache open-source license, not the GPL, so Google is not required to make the AOSP source code available. The Android 3.x-compatible custom kernels are based off of source code released by OEM manufacturers of Android 3.x devices, because they are required by the GPL to release the source code. There is no such thing as an "AOSP kernel", because AOSP does not include a kernel. Kernels are device and hardware specific. AOSP is an operating system, and does not include a kernel. Any references to "AOSP kernels" should be understood as "AOSP-compatible kernels".

---------- Post added at 11:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:37 AM ----------

Since when does posting a viewpoint in an objective, non-combative way = trolling? Anyone who posted a viewpoint in this thread that is anything other than "zomg ICS ROM now!" has been labelled a troll. Some are truly trolling while others, like myself, are trying to educate people about what is and is not reasonable to expect.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffyv2:
+10000000

Glad to see I'm not the only one that has sense...its about being realistic not live in dream land
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zdidge:
Realistically, a stable version of ICS will take months. Months. There is no way we will see it before 2012 from a good developer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
I was beginning to think that I was alone in here...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xak944:
Except the Report button is supposed to be for reporting posts which break XDA rules. Expressing an opinion (especially an educated one) is not a violation of XDA rules, and by using the report process on such posts we are wasting the moderators' time.

This sounds like you're trying to take the freedom of this open development community away. That's not cool, man. :eek:

Are you trying to tell me that when someone releases an ICS ROM, I won't be able to use it, test it, post my opinion, thoughts, and bug reports just because I haven't "pledged" on your thread? And I won't be able to donate? :D That's just absurd!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
you either came here to pledge to donate or find an update on the pledge status, otherwise what are you doing in the thread besides trolling?? Thats all your doing. Notice how the posts that just understand what the thread is about have the least amount of issues, its just trolls that have no intention or can't comprehend without help

Are you trying to say that no one is smart enough to generate a ROM and that we should all shake babies??? No? Ok you probably don't want people talking for you either. Either pledge, report posts you feel are in violation of rules or stop trolling. Seriously, it has to be all the CM diva's that come in here and troll these threads the hardest. But by all means keep the negative useless posts coming :rolleyes:

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but hey, we care if you go on "record" or know something we ALL don't or don't see the point :rolleyes::rolleyes: blah blah blah
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xak944:
I'd just like to point out that according to this, you are essentially saying that when an ICS ROM is released and 2/3+ vote yes, you will be forcing the rest (up to 33%) of these "pledgers" to donate (that's over $500 based on your current list). That is, by definition, not a donation. Not to mention, once again, against the rules. /fail
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
haha, as Jay and Kanye would say you "Troll so hard muthaf$*ks wanna find you"
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffyv2:
U call us trolls yet u post BS like this?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
If you understand my posts you will see that I posted, as I am permitted to do in any thread on the forums, in order to express my opinion about the expectations that are being set in this thread. If you cannot see the difference between that and trolling, I don't know what else to say. To say that no one should be posting in this thread other than to donate or pledge is essentially telling others that their opinion is not worthy of being expressed in your presence, which is elitist and closed-minded. You simply do not want to listen to logic and reason. If you want to stick to your pie-in-the-sky argument of "If they put their mind to it, they can do anything!", be my guest, but don't be surprised or disappointed when it doesn't work out the way you had hoped. Why can you not acknowledge that some things are either not possible, or are not possible within the timeframe you are hoping? I'm hoping that your response to this post will be significantly more mature and thought out than your last response, where you resorted to name-calling, which as well all know is a truly persuasive method of debate.

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This is an example of trolling by you. What purpose did this post serve to either push forward a debate or otherwise move forward the purpose of this thread?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] odub303:
Can the OP please respond to this concern? It is a valid concern and actually should be considered and addressed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Attention all

Trying to control this thread and the upcoming challenges of contacting all donors,

polling & voting and planning how to fairly determine the winning developer is starting

to take too much of my attention away from my businesses (businesses that pay for

my food vs. XDA which pays me nothing).

Aside from donation pledges and update reports about ICS Source Code,

the prior 3 pages of this thread is trolling. It's getting out of control AGAIN.

Before Jerdog interjects, I as the OP will ask all of you on both sides to please stop.

This thread is NOT an opinion poll or classroom. None of us knows everything

about creating an ICS ROM for the E4GT because if any of us did, we'd already have

that ROM so please stop debating. The only thing a debate accomplishes here,

is making time pass.

If you're not here to pledge a donation or to give us an update on the ICS ROM

you are building, please just read and leave quietly (so I won't feel like putting on

the Safety Patrol badge I wore in the 6th grade).

Thank you!

Glenn :)

P.S. When ICS ROM(s) do appear everyone can download it but ONLY donors

on this thread will be polled to cast their YES or NO votes. When the 2/3 majority

has selected a winner, all donors will be directed to make their donations but nobody

can be forced to make ANY donation.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] flofy22:
ill donate when get fully work :D my sandwich rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
DEVELOPERS: Post ICS ROMS on this thread

DEVELOPERS:

When you have an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM ready for testing,

please post a notice & link on this thread.

Thank you,

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeremiah.rs:
I think its going to be a while before we have a working rom, considering the dev. requirements for compiling the source. And I'm sure most devs on here already know about this pot. In any case, someone can hopefully get it done in a soon, that'd be awesome.

If I can scrounge up some cash, I'll add to the pot, i'll update this post later.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] acrown:
Weltwon, I think you have conducted this thread properly. I agree with you on the 2/3rd vote process and will donate my share as soon as I get your PM.

A good majority here knows what an acceptable Rom should be. For it to receive 2/3rd vote it has to be a good rom, that alone gives confidence that the final product will be no less than acceptable.

For me at least, by no means will this be the only time I donate to it. Follow up work and updates are as important, and that's what is going to make the ROM go from acceptable to awesome.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Alex1x:
So what happens if TWO ICS ROMs are submitted back to back, both function yet the 2nd one submitted is the better one for whatever reason???

I think ICS is right around the corner and OP should change the rules:

IMO:

From the time 1st ICS SUBMITTED notice goes out and devs get 5days from submission date to post their ICS (original dev/all devs can push updates until midnight of fifth day).

Then open linked NEW thread with top ICS roms Poll... Winner of poll takes all...???

Edit: 2nd place ICS ROM gets $100...?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
feel free to donate your pledges how you see fit. OP merely suggested a method to coordinate all the individual pledges into as synchronized as possible.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Alex1x:
I agree that people should donate to their favorite, but THIS PLEDGE is to entice "we want it ASAP"... Otherwise we can wait weeks or months and defeats the purpose of this pledge... YAY or NAY?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ssconceptz:
Lol this thread is crazy. I say participate if you may or not who cares. When and "IF" someone develops ICS for our device we have the freedom to donate directly to them if we may.

Sent with Galaxy S II EPIC Starburst Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
I always have said it is up to each person who pledge for their terms, but agree that the honey pot delivered pretty close to all at once is more enticing then *MAYBE* donations later scattered across whenever. Not that you should feel pressured to donate, its just getting it as close to unison is preferable to if/when the ROM is delivered.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
If u want to know how bad ics is this will help u understand ...

Keyan Mobli wrote g+

To begin, I no longer have enough ram to build to a ramdisk. Last night, between the build and building, I was using all 12 gigs of ram and both gigs of swap before the process died from lack of ram (I only have 2 gigs of swap). There were about 8 gigs used in the ramdisk alone and the rest was used in compilation. In comparison, a fresh build of CM Gingerbread took about 3 gigs of system ram and 3.5 or so of the ramdisk.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Jesus Christ that's insane. I definitely won't be able to build from source then. My computer is infinitely more dinky than his. However, I can still make a ROM by porting over from the Galaxy Nexus. I have a build that doesn't actually work but it gets past the galaxy splash screen and just shows 2 white rectangles on the screen. It recognizes touches but that's about it. Would you all like me to start a dev thread about it tonight when I get home? You can't do anything with it but it might call others to come and help out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tomyboombotz:
Lets get atleast 1 rom
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xak944:
How about getting people to contribute money into buying a VPS or some hardware that developers could use to build on? If we're trying to throw money at the problem, that would be the most directly beneficial way to expedite the availability of ICS ROMs.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Choosing 1 winner

I'm open to suggestions from anyone who has pledged a donation on this thread.

Although I have produced beauty pageants with up to 96 women competing for various prizes,

I am not going to complicate this process any more than is absolutely necessary.

If we all start doing "what ifs" we'd end up with a process more complicated the IRS tax code.

We want an ICS ROM as soon as possible but we also want the best one.

If we end up with more than one to choose from at the exact same time,

everyone can try both and vote YES on one or the other todetermine the winner.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
The only issue I see is someone doing hard worm getting ICS going and then someone else kangs it and submits it as their own.