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[Atrix 4G General] SirFork:
I get that people are always eager for the next shiny object, but until software development catches up with the hardware I don't see a need to upgrade, the hardware in the Atrix has still yet to be fully utilized. I you might get a marginally better android experience by upgrading; the difference will be almost negligible.

The Tegra 3, with 5 CPU cores and 12 GPU cores, is worth waiting for. http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/09/tegra-3-5-cores/
[Atrix 4G General] Notorious544d:
My Opinion

For me, Atrix is absolutely perfect because of these unique features:

- A LARGE 4" qHD screen yet a SMALL form factor

- A massive battery

- GREAT sound quality due to Wolfsen chip

- Oh, and the fingerprint scanner :D

No other phones have these crucial features! Phones are getting massive and I hate them because I have tiny hands!!

The galaxy Nexus is 136 x 68!? WTF!? It should have been the Nexus S' size but have a 4.3 - 4.5" screen with on screen buttons.

Also, the battery is only 1750mAh, pushing a 720p screen!? That is ridicules!! Also, the processor is the TI OMAP series which has the weak SGX540 - which has to push a 1280x720 screen!!

As for the SGS2, it is stupidly massive, has a WVGA screen which I personally don't like anymore after using the Atrix's qHD and TBH, I don't like the screen too much as it produces cartoonish colours. It also has a poor sound chip compared to the Atrix's Wolfsen Audio chip which is just sensational.

For me, the only phone above the Atrix is the iPhone 4S, that is genuinely a VERY GOOD all round phone. The A5 chip is absolutely BEASTLY with a dual core SGX543MP2 GPU and it is beautifully optimized with the software. I personally think the 4S is gonna be one of the most underrated phones this year. It's dual core performace will most likely trump future quad cores because of it's optimization.
[Atrix 4G General] Phoneguy589:
Only reason I mentioned the 2100mhz was what I had seen a Verizon page comparing LTE buildouts ---> http://bookstore.ucsd.edu/images/pdf/VZW_LTE_Competitive_Comparison_Overview.pdf It shows 700/1700/2100 under At&t but a small bandwith.
[Atrix 4G General] mgymnop:
Really. I got an AT&T GS2 and love it. I had an Atrix from the beginning on and it never felt fast and the sensitivity of the screen wasn't high enough for me. It's a good phone don't understand me wrong but the gs2 is so much faster, smoother and the camera is so much better. Don't even feel like rooting it because I am totally happy. I give the Atrix a 7/10 and the GS2 a 9. BTW I used cm7 on my Atrix and still wasn't happy.
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
Gs2 runs a lower resolution and is hardware accelerated. It better be snappy. But galaxy nexus ftw!

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Atrix 4G General] lilhyper:
I'm not interested in GSII at all. Bigger screen and a lower resolution just doesn't interest me.

I am however, very interested in the Galaxy Nexus. It's definitely drool worthy and the no-lag camera alone may be worth it. However, as my job require me to work long hours (30+ hours), Atrix may still be the only option given the excellent battery life.
[Atrix 4G General] loriolus:
Atrix screen looks more grainy than GS2 because it uses a pentile technology. It's not a true qhd resolution. I accept that for some strange reason a few people don't like an over saturated amoled screens but as far as sharpness goes this can't be a matter of opinion.
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
And are you trying to be serious? The atrix screen looks great. And even though samsungs amoled are cartoon oversaturated it still looks good with the 8x480 res.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Atrix 4G General] loriolus:
I think that you're the one who is obviously trying too hard to be serious. You can read about pentile technology in numerous forums and how it compares to rgb type screens. Just compare atrix with atrix 2......although both being qhd, atrix 2 looks a lot sharper because of rgb.
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
I am going to have to agree the Atrix 2 screen does look quite a bit better and the .3 inches of real estate also give it a slide edge as well. Regardless the OG did great for it's time. I also prefer the look of the A2 screen over the SGSII.
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
Even though atrix is pentile it looks great still. I had a nexus one with amoled and the only that impressed me there was black levels and contrast. Pentile made it look horrible. The atrix pentile has a slightly faded yellow and i notice the pentile with green text or green lines but i am more than satisfied with it. I am eager to get my hands on a galaxy nexus and some 720p pentile goodness.

I voided my warranty and your mum.
[Atrix 4G General] loderjm:
I can't figure out people's obsession with Galaxy S2's screen. I thought it looked quite bad actually sitting next to the Atrix 2. I was trying to look past the lower resolution even to see how the colors would supposedly "pop." Tried turning the brightness all the way up, but it still looked dull. Colors were oversaturated and made things look cheap. Tried checking out different S2s at another store and still the same. So, perhaps I'm missing something, but I think my brand new Atrix 2 blows it out of the water in the screen dept. Little off topic, but the new Atrix is pretty badass and I'm surprised at the very quiet launch. Hopefully people will catch on and it will get some dev love.
[Atrix 4G General] t-mizzle:
Wow... so much disinformation in this thread. Opinions are fine, we aren't supposed to agree on everything but goddamn it, this is XDA. There is way too much FUD in here, I don't even know where to begin. All of you hoes need a crash course if you want to discuss pentile screens and SoC's. Head over to anandtech and inhale every article before discussing it on XDA.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Agreed entirely. I keep posting hard evidence, but the majority of this board seems think that the Atrix is the best thing since sliced bread. In terms of actual sharpness, especially on diagonal lines, The SGS2 wins hands down even with the larger display and lower resolution. Same thing with battery life. It's pretty much equal to the Atrix, it just depends on how you use your phone. I honestly don't understand how anyone could prefer the Atrix's horrible green and yellows compared to the SGS2 with it's slightly oversaturated colors. Finally it would take 4 years of normal to heavy usage for just the blue OLEDs to burn out, so that's an unfounded fear.
[Atrix 4G General] t-mizzle:
There is simply so much to learn and I am not talking down to anyone. Even with all the stuff I learned, if I don't stay up to date, I'll be a noob all over again in 6 months. Come on people this isn't the freaking 4chan forums or some other crappy forum. Hit up arstechnica or anandtech and read.
[Atrix 4G General] Skenzin:
I guess this all subjective, but I concur on the SG2 screen being unimpressive. The colors are way overstated and seem inaccurate. I know its suppose to be fact the the SG2 screen in the greatest thing ever. From my play time with it, my personal opinion is it looked smeary and nothing looks very well defined. To me everything looks like its bleeding into everything else. I prefer a cleaner of pixelly look of a HTC or the Atrix supposedly inferior pentile display. To me these have a cleaner more defined look. Thats my two cents.

On a side note before I bought the Atrix I looked at the screen of every phone at the ATT store for web browsing. The iphone4 had the best screen followed by the atrix. That was my subjective opinion. Only till I started reading more was I aware pentile was bad. I usually run all my phones at full brightness.
[Atrix 4G General] Moonshield:
I personally don't like the SGS 2's screen, it looks excessively colorful for my eyes...

All in all, I don't see any advantage in the SGS2 compared to the Atrix- It has poorer screen res (together with the eye-burning colors), less powerful graphic proccesor, larger sceen (a disadvantage IMHO), smaller battery, Samsung build quality, and so on...

If I would buy a device now, it probably would have been the GN, though I think that the 2 major conferences in the near future will reveal better devices. If selecting one between SGS2 and the Atrix I would go for the Atrix without a doubt!

:cool:
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Except the SGS2 has a sharper screen due to the Atrix using pentile and the SGS2 doesn't. It also has a much more powerful GPU. Both have roughly the same battery life as in within 5-10% of each other. Finally, samsung build quality is good. You think that's cheap plastic they're using? The battery cover door on the SGS2 can be bent nearly 180 degrees and still look like new.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Except the points I am debating are in fact objective and not subjective.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/18

So yes. In fact, both devices have similar battery life. The only test that isn't close is wifi browsing. Every other test is within 10% of each other. SGS2 also wins at wifi hotspot battery life. This is with a 17% smaller battery as well, mind you.
[Atrix 4G General] Optilicious:
This is an opinionated response. Anybody connected to the Motorola mob please skip this.

+1 for the sgs2. I purchased the Atrix when it first came out and wasn't impressed at all. First thing is the radio shack quality plastic the phone is incased in. Then the phone had crazy lag probably due to that motoblur... battery life was really good though. Camera was not in the top ten either. I tested it head to head with my captivate for web browsing speed with multiple flash heavy pages at once and there was no performance gain. The killer though is the locked boot loaders. With my sgs2 I have had ten flash heavy pages open and no lag. I was amazed. Who does that you say? I do and that's all that matters. To each their own but I didn't return the sgs2...
[Atrix 4G General] Magnetox:
you were probably on 2.2.1 on your atrix lol
[Atrix 4G General] malickie:
I was talking over all battery life with Everyday Usage. Not some trumped up test that is set to make the SGSII look better than ever other phone out there. Hence the title of the article.... (Samsung Galaxy S 2 (International) Review - The Best, Redefined) Basically saying that not everyone uses the phone in those EXACT Ways. Ask most of the people who Own Both Phones or Have owned Both and MOST will Say the Atrix Has LONGER BATTERY LIFE. Test's can and Will Only Show what the Test shows and has NO IMPACT ON REAL LIFE USAGE. And now I will leave it at that and if you have to have the last word as always go right on ahead.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
You're not serious are you? Anandtech is what pretty much every other serious review site looks up to. They are probably the least biased review site there is. They call it the best because from their testing, it was the best. These are all standardized tests that they run. You objectify the majority of this subforum. Any time there's hard evidence that makes the Atrix look bad, you plug your ears and yell LALALALALA. Anandtech is the most thorough, meticulous, and detailed review site there is. It's absolutely ridiculous how blind you are when the evidence is right in front of you. I'd link dozens of websites that say the SGS2 has amazing battery life (but have no hard numbers), but then you'd just claim that it's all just anecdotal evidence, which you yourself are using to somehow try and disprove a review that takes a scientific approach to measure battery life and report hard numbers.
[Atrix 4G General] treehumper:
I'd stake any reputation on Anandtech. I'll also say that your best choice right this second, as far as phones go, is the SGS2. I have an Atrix, and I am quite satisfied. I have tossed around getting an A2 (I'm still in the 30 day grace period and flat broke, can't afford another $100 for SGS2) and have decided not to get it. If I had the extra $100 to drop, I'd definitely have an SGS2 right now, or I'd wait for a Galaxy Nexus. The Atrix is not a God-sent phone, and it certainly isn't flawless.
[Atrix 4G General] Dorilife:
I've actually owned both devices at the same time, used the atrix for about a month then sold it, it wasn't a bad device but I fell inlove with my GS2, battery life was about equal but to me the GS2 took it.

why?

Because it was faster, had a larger screen and still will get the same battery life as the atrix..

People have to understand that to each there own, obviously there are people that would pick the atrix over the GS2 and the other way around..

Basicly "what ever floats your boat"
[Atrix 4G General] Jabbypants:
I owned a GS2 before I washed it by mistake :mad:, picked a Atrix up for cheap brand new its a nice phone but its not as nice as the GS2.

Big plus points of this phone is the screen resolution its amazing I love it but apart from that the GS2 beats it in all departments, don't get me wrong am happy with the Atrix but its not as good by a long shot.

Also I find custom roms more hassle on this, I can't seem to get the boot loader unlocked as in the UK we are still on 2.2 so I can't get a decent rom on as the stock one isn't great.
[Atrix 4G General] G1-8701:
honestly, i'd get the Galaxy S2 before the Galaxy Nexus

both have 1.2 dual core processor

The galaxy nexus has NO expandable memory(major factor for me)

battery in the GSII is better

IMO the physical design of the GSII looks better

and a few others

but that's just my opinion, they Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
The galaxy nexus despite its shortcomings will have developers galore.

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Nexus has a bigger battery, 1750 vs 1650mAh. Nexus will be supported with updates for many years. The Nexus 1 is getting ICS as proof of that. And the screen on the Nexus is simply amazing.
[Atrix 4G General] G1-8701:
actually i seen an 1800mAh battery in the SGSII, true it will be getting updates, but with limited space on the device to people who like to use 1 device for all their personal needs as far as storage(music, movies, videos, pictures, etc.) i wouldn't suggest it as the right device for them, cause u can get all the updates you want but if you run outta storage space, then what?

Not saying that it will be a horrible phone, my opinion is far from biased, cause the storage is one of the only things that's keeping me from buying it, other then that i would probably be getting this device
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Only the Sprint version has the 1800mAh battery and that phone is also 4.5 inches vs the standard 1650mAh battery in the 4.3inch international model. 16 gigs is plenty. If you need more, you can opt for the 32gb version.
[Atrix 4G General] G1-8701:
i'm open to either carrier cause i'm about to get a new contract, and 16gb isn't really enough for me, 32 would be nice..........but after browsing around for a bit, i seen the Galaxy S II LTE, which seems even better, so that might even be considered, it's said to have a 1.5 dual core processor(but u kno how rumors are, Galaxy Nexus being the prime example) but it looked nice! So i'ma keep searching for specs and see what's up with it cause it definitly seems like a great buy so far
[Atrix 4G General] frankiedizzle87:
I agree I got the gs2 sold.Atrix for 325 gs2 cost me 200 why not... (company allows me to upgrade often) and I love it way more xm7 is faster and typing is better I did miss my Atrix for a while but oh well
[Atrix 4G General] Rickinsav:
At least you'll be used to the Pentile display ;P

I returned the SGSII in favor of the Atrix 2 since its the best I've seen in sunlight from any AT&T or Verizon model so far.

Also the cell and wireless radios have better range as well. From what I've read, this has been an issue on more than one Samsung model. I hope they have it fixed on the Prime - other than the Pentile aspect, it sounds awesome.
[Atrix 4G General] Blind_Guardian:
You do realize that thanks to that wonderful pentile display that resolution is "effective", had it used an RGB stripe then I would have to say that you are correct. If you compare the screen of a s2 to an atrix there is no way you can say it looks blurry unless you have vision problems. The same thing can be said of the nexus S, which used a pentile matrix when compared to an s2.

Is the atrix a bad phone? No, by no means. It's a solid phone, but the s2 screen is far from blurry. It is actually sharper than the atrix.

honestly the main point should be pentile. I was very surprised to see them include this when Super AMOLED + worked so well on the s2.
[Atrix 4G General] lilhyper:
Pentile or not, gs2 with its lower screen resolution makes it harder to read webpages. I'd go with Galaxy nexus just for the screen.

For the next year or so, I'll be very happy with my atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] Jabbypants:
I prefer the colours on the GS2 screen but I do find the screen on the Atrix does look sharper mainly down to the resolution and the screen size.

Text defiantly does look jagged on the GS2 when you load web-pages up and zoom out too much and this doesn't happen on the Atrix.

When it come down to camera/video the GS2 is in another league, I find the 720p good on the Atrix but is there a way of getting auto focus on? as mine defiantly doesn't do it when i take videos.

I would be tempted with the Galaxy Nexus at some point but for now this is good enough for me, got CM7 back on as I used on the GS2 and I am as pleased as punch with it.
[Atrix 4G General] Blind_Guardian:
We will have to agree to disagree I guess. There is a reason the atrix 2 did away with pentile. On that screen then text should be clearer depending on the ppi of that phone.
[Atrix 4G General] silver03wrx:
I had an sgs2 on sprint then switched too att got the atrix i must say having owned both and many many other abdroid phones. Like the g2x the htc hero the htc evo the htc evo 3d the samsung epic. The kyocera echo. The my touch 4g. And no other phone even comes close too the sgs2 its far superior in every way. I like the atrix and still am using it but there not even in the same league
[Atrix 4G General] n7slc:
Since we're all spewing our opinions on the topic, here's mine:

I'm a current Atrix owner and I've found the original Atrix to have the best battery life of any smartphone I've owned, even on GB. The display is bright and crisp but the colors aren't nearly as good as the SAMOLED screens. I've been seriously considering the SGSII but after demoing the phone, the handset and speakerphone audio are WEAK compared to the Atrix. So weak in fact, the test calls I made on it reminded me of using my Captivate where I had to strain to hear the person on the other end.

Compared to the Atrix:

The screen on the SGSII is better.

The camera on the SGSII is MUCH better.

The in-call handset and speakerphone audio on the SGSII is WEAK and for me, relates to a less enjoyable overall user experience.

I can deal with a less bright and colorful screen...I can even deal with a crappier camera but the WEAK audio on the SGSII is a deal breaker for me.

So, I demoed the Atrix 2 and was pleasantly surprised to find that it has excellent audio just like the original and Motorola has greatly improved the camera/flash and screen.

There just might be an A2 in my near future.
[Atrix 4G General] NOMIOMI:
SGSII is like a dummy phone its not feel solid in hands
[Atrix 4G General] Jabbypants:
In terms of reading text the Atrix blows the GS2 out the water, text is sharp and clear unlike on the GS2, the GS2 has a 480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches 217 ppi pixel density, the Atrix has 540 x 960 pixels, 4.0 inches (~275 ppi pixel density)

There really is a huge difference between the two on the internet, texting etc, having owned a GS2 for a good 6 months before the accident I could notice the difference instantly when I got the Atrix, sadly though the GS2 does everything else better.
[Atrix 4G General] Azurael:
Unlike the rgbg pentile in the Desire, the rgbw pentile in the Atrix doesn't appear to substantially affect black-on-white or white-on-black text so outside of blurry coloured fonts and a strange texture on areas of solid colour at high brightness levels it doesn't bother me.
[Atrix 4G General] sk8trix:
you guys are so dumb arguing haha I'm just gonna stick with my Atrix even if it's not as good as some of the newer devices.I got everything unlocked on it and fully customized and clocked at 1.3Ghz and still get a neat 10 hour battery life and thats with me using it for surfin the web and mp3s and youtube and games,so I can't complain.

I wont be getting a new device until more ICS devices with it already installed start rolling out who wants to buy a GB device now and in like 4 months ICS might be on devices.my opinion...just wait till 4.0 is out there and then get a new phone ppl.
[Atrix 4G General] Jabbypants:
I won't be upgrading my phone until May next year, probably when the GS3 is out.
[Atrix 4G General] pswin09:
My plan is waiting for droid razr.... way better than gs2, at,at2.
[Atrix 4G General] n7slc:
You'll be waiting awhile unless you jump ship and head on over to Big Red.

Way better than the SGSII, A4G or A2? Hmm...
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Why is there gonna be a GSM version of that phone coming anytime soon?...
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
Euro version.

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Atrix 4G General] ccrows:
Just saw the online post about the GSM version of the RAZR.

That thing has to have a removable battery for me to even remotely consider it. I bought one phone in the past with a non-removable battery and was unhappy with it. I want to avoid making that mistake again... :(
[Atrix 4G General] dude772:
+ 1 000 000

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Why is there going to be a wait on the droid razr? Its already available from Rogers.
[Atrix 4G General] ChongoDroid:
I sold my atrix for the gs2, and I will sell this and get the galaxy nexus. Then I will relax.. I missed the fp scanner but now I have facial recognition to open my phone.
[Atrix 4G General] Phalanx7621:
Why is a post about the galaxy s ii being unimpressive in the Atrix forums?

Maybe a compare and contrast I guess?
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
Envy or confidence. Or both.

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Atrix 4G General] spielnicht:
My Atrix died on me and so I was using my wife's ex-iPhone 4 for the past month until my upgrade eligibility kicks in (today). I don't bloody get why people like the iPhone. Anyway, different subject all together.

I went to the ATT store to play around with the SG2 and I just didn't like it. It didn't feel right in my hands at all; it was like holding a tile. Performance wise I didn't notice much difference between it and my ex-Atrix. Screen wise I MUCH prefer the Atrix, which I'm sure others would disagree.

I was sort of bumbed because I had no other choice except for it, keeping the iPhone 4, or going back to the Atrix (which I liked, but at same time ABHORRED the plastic design and especially back cover (don't like cases either). That was until a phone caught my eyes...the Atrix 2. It really really looks beautiful with metallic surround and textured back cover. Performance wise it seemed snappier than original Atrix and on par with SG2. So yes, after seeing the Atrix 2, I'm even far less impressed with the SG2. I just need to test out typing on both again and check out the loudspeaker volume and clarity today before going home with one tonight.
[Atrix 4G General] pukemon:
Might i recommend getting an iphone 4s and flipping it on ebay and buying an unlocked phone. Should make a $400 profit.

I voided my warranty and your nexus.
[Atrix 4G General] jeremyshaw:
Edit boudle post.
[Atrix 4G General] jeremyshaw:
If the gs2 is any indication, the non pentile version will be out by then :D
[Atrix 4G General] spielnicht:
I thought about it, but after factoring in all costs, I won't be left with enough to buy an unlocked phone. I don't want to spend anything out of my own pocket.

$200.00 iPhone

$10 Taxes

$18 AT&T Fee

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$228.00

eBay Avg Selling Price $580

-$58 ebay Fees

-$18 PayPal Fees

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$504.00

Net Profit

$504

- $228

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$276.00