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[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Microsoft, a titan of the software industry, entirely unmatched. Nokia, once THE hardware giant in the mobile industry, fallen from graces due to poor software. Sounds like a romance etched in the stars for bards to write soliloquys about until time dth end, right? Well, according to the press, this is just a terrible idea.

Earlier this year, Microsoft announced an exclusive partnership with Nokia granting them more power over an already beautiful OS. Numerous jobs were lost, the bad press was everywhere, but Elop and Ballmer were smiling for the camera. Things died down, a few even began to see the bright side of what such a merger might offer, but with the release of the technical specifications of nokia's new windows phone devices, windows phone users everywhere froze. They seemed to offer nothing that the other OEMs couldn't. Some were expecting Nokia to blow us away with the use of a dual-core processor on a windows phone flagship device, my only thought, why?

Nokia is a hardware company not known for excessive hardware, but rather how they use it. While android was running sluggish on a 1 GHz snapdragon, symbian was smooth on a much lesser chipset. Nokia never was the greatest manufacturer for the power in the phone, just great execution be it their battery life which is absolutely phenomenal opposed to that of most smartphones, or their build quality, which provides a durable, polished, and attractive device. Don't even get me started on the camera's they've so often been praised for since the early days of smartphones. Nokia is a hardware company to be revered, even if not for their power.

Now, with WP7's strict hardware limitations allowing very specific chipsets in their devices, the chipset is not the issue by any means. What Microsoft needs now is a beautiful device with a great camera to take advantage of the fastest camera app out there, a great battery life to provide hours of smooth, lag-free browsing, and a polished build quality to match the polished OS.

Do I think WP7/Nokia could be a game changer? I'd like to think so, but only time will tell. For now, I'll just continue salivating over the new Nokia 800.
[General Questions and Answers] cobraboy85:
Lol... dude... I admire your "eff you all I will still create useless threads" attitude.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Nothing useless about this thread. Please don't continue to troll it. I'm looking for valid opinions and responses.
[General Questions and Answers] cobraboy85:
K here is one.... I totally agree that Nokia makes great phones, and uses the OS nicely, just wish that OS wasn't windows based. Because I hate windows. Its slow, outdated, and cumbersome and lags incessantly when executing the smallest of tasks.

And cool the camera is nice!?! Polished turd.

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and to answer your question in the thread title, I will go out on a very strong and healthy limb and say no. Just look at junk devices of past like the dell venue pro

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Should have called it the semi pro

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or the all cons and no pros
[General Questions and Answers] Jaunzems:
You may call me a mad conspiracy theory believer who wears tin foil as a hat and disconnect ethernet cable and delete all the history after using Internet, but

I really believe that Elop is a trojan sent by Microsoft.

Look. N9 is doing great. MeeGo is promising and the hardware is critically acclaimed. But no - Elop says they are ditching MeeGo in favor of WP7. They put ridiculous pricetag and limit availability in other countries such as Europe and other American cities. (trollmao).
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
I mean the opinions of people who can discern the difference between windows phone 7 and the desktop OS windows7. The Dell Venue is an android device, the Dell Venue PRO is a windows phone 7 device and somehow I feel that prior to reading my signature you were unaware of the existence of either. You're a troll, and not even a well-educated one.
[General Questions and Answers] cobraboy85:
or the prohibits... because it prohibits you from having a good mobile device experience
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
The primary issue with MeeGo is that regardless of how well it did, it could only be a second-rate android. They wanted a software that could play on it's own field and it does. Plus as someone who attempted MeeGo development I can assure you, it never would have had half of the developer support that even a budding OS like Windows Phone 7 does. The developer tools were an abomination and with the base OS code it would not have taken too much to get sluggish.
[General Questions and Answers] cobraboy85:
Seriously you sound like barrack Obama when you argue. No valid points just vague descriptions
[General Questions and Answers] AllGamer:
all of the above, makes the phones very boring

i don't see a future for Nokia, at the very least they got MS to bail them out if they do go under after this epic fail
[General Questions and Answers] Jaunzems:
Development in MeeGo is in Qt framework, and it means easy porting to other platforms - you can easily recompile apps to Symbian, Debian, Tizen or even Android if you like to.

I'm surprised that the board of shareholders hasn't kicked Elop out to the moon yet.

I think your happy times with WP7 has been very damaging to your critical sense, and you ar starting to sound like these ignorant iOS fanboytrolls. OK, you love your Venue Pro, it suits your needs and it makes you happyface. But you can't say that WP7 will suit everyone, or will make unicorns and magnets, solve the African lack of food and cure cancer. Your needs != needs of everyone.
[General Questions and Answers] MartyLK:
I just realized why Nokia may not have gone the Android route. It's possible Nokia knew that Android was stolen and didn't want to get involved with it.

Now, about Nokia hardware, I believe the partnership of MS and Nokia was good and will bare fruit. I believe Nokia can be MS's "iPhone" producer. And I think this is what MS is doing by keeping the size down. They are building high-quality, highly polished devices that don't blow anything away but establish a reliable brand, instead. But My opinion is, Nokia needs to step it up a bit in some of the hardware. The pentile-based AMOLED they will be using with the 800 is much lower level than the top-end Retina display the iPhone 4 uses. If MS wants Nokia to be their iPhone" producing brand, the hardware needs to be higher level.
[General Questions and Answers] kanariya:
Can someone check his ip or something to see if he's Steve Baldmer?
[General Questions and Answers] vnvman:
I agree. Meego was born because nokia didn't want to go Android like others did, but still it was a very desperate try. Personally i can't think of a Nokia powered Android device, basically because Nokia has always managed its software like a control freak (similar to Apple's approach), they don't wanna see their precious hardware messed up by third party apps and unsupported firmware. WP7 was actually the only way to go for them if you ask me. I really, really hope this will be a success, i had so much love for my old Nokia phones: i still have my N95 in a drawer and it still feels like he's the king...that bad boy was a masterpiece, i definitely want more from Nokia :D
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Nokia didn't go the android route because then they'd be just another mid-sized fish in an ocean of OEM's rather than the big fish on something new and promising.

Jaunzems, aside from the people who feel the need to mod I most certainly can. The developer tools are infinitely better than any other OS, it does everything pretty much anyone would need for a phone, and does it faster than the rest, not to mention the seamless integration for social networking which is an oh so integral aspect of everyday life in these times.
[General Questions and Answers] Jaunzems:
1) Android isn't stolen. Does Andro has Springboard? Syncronizing with iTunes? Did iOS have Notification area before Andro? Multitasking? Cut-copy-paste?

2) No, they moved away from Android, because using Android would be, citing Anssi Vanjoki, "peeing in their pants" like Finnish boys do to keep warm. Everyone uses it because it's cheap and fast way to get into the smartphone market and Nokia thinks that if they would choose Android, they would be treated like

And, despite the fact Nokia has very good software dev team, stock android unstableness and chaotic battery management would be too tough chalenge for loyal Nokia clients to take - business customers, "sunday" users etc.

Also there is a part in their agreement with Microsoft that states they get a big bunch of money if they never ever look towards Android.
[General Questions and Answers] MartyLK:
Yes, Android...the technology that makes it up, or its foundation, is stolen...from Apple. That being the case, anything Google invents or produces with and in Android belongs to Apple. That means the notification bar that Apple is using and the notification bar that Android is using belongs to Apple.

http://www.dailytech.com/Steve+Jobs...Because+Its+a+Stolen+Product/article23077.htm
[General Questions and Answers] Jaunzems:
I didn't find in that article, what's exactly stolen from iOS.
[General Questions and Answers] MartyLK:
But the fact that Schmidt tried to make a deal with Apple is proof of stolen goods.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
as much as I agree that android is largely stolen property you really can't use a quote from Steve Jobs as a source for such an argument.
[General Questions and Answers] MartyLK:
I never have used it from Jobs. I'm going by the fact that a high ranking Google official tried to make a licensing deal with Apple. If you didn't steal anything...or have product without consent...you never try to license it.

By the way, it is a clear cut and dry fact that Google is using stolen tech by using mobile multi-touch capacitive displays and the underlying software. Apple owns the patents for that tech.
[General Questions and Answers] Gusar321:
In a drawer? My brother still uses his. Awesome phone. Really awesome. Especially the camera, but also otherwise.

Too bad my N80 is defect. Even with it's tiny display, barely enough RAM to handle a lot of today's webpages, and the overall "brickness" of it, I was quite fond of it. My 7650 still works, though I'd need to buy a new battery. All the apps and games I installed back then are still on it. Including a game I really, really liked and still miss - Climb.

As the above story tells you, I was all Nokia. So it really saddens me, the position they're now in. More than anything else, I'd want a true Linux phone. Maemo was it, pretty much. Then they threw that away and went for Meego. Ok, not that big of a deal, Meego is also very Linuxy. But then they went and threw that away too! So yeah, sad.

So I'll join Jaunzems under his tinfoil hat and agree totally with that post of his.

And to answer the title question, no, I don't think anything new is being brought to the table. People have pretty much completely shunned WP7. And Nokia is far from the reputation they used to have. So I don't think anything substantial will happen once NokiaWP7 phones are released.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
Completely agree, though so is everyone else. It's just that Apple won't sue Microsoft because of their past and anyone else but google isn't really competition (not that I feel android as an OS compares to WP7 or iOS but as it's on everything, well, you know that whole point.)
[General Questions and Answers] MartyLK:
Exactly. There is probably some agreement between Apple and MS that allows MS to use the tech. I seriously doubt Apple would make any such agreement with Google. And as for the other companies out there using the tech, Apple has yet to get around to them.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
can't hit google direct as they just distribute the OS and they can't hit the OEMs since a lot of their parts are produced by different OEMs. Until they build their own everything they can't cut google off at the head. I think wp7 should go strictly Nokia and do the same thing long enough to scare them off of android to the point that they can either not manufacture or only manufacture for WP7, of course then there's only be two major OSes. All personal opinion though.
[General Questions and Answers] lowandbehold:
Well Google owns the patent for the cell phone after buying Motorola!! Top that buddy.

I really feel that the problem with Nokia is that it's just not cool anymore. We are a very materialistic society and we love our name brands, and the Nokia brand died alongside of Gateway computers...no matter what the hardware or software situation, alot of people still won't buy it.
[General Questions and Answers] MartyLK:
Well good for Google! If it's true. I don't hate Google and I did say I loved Android...not as much as WP7, though. If Google can bring about a legal resolve to Android, by all means, I hope they do. But until they resolve it, Android still belongs to Apple.
[General Questions and Answers] Jaunzems:
And why does Android belong to Apple? Because Steve said so? If so, then Stanislav from shed in Murmansk can claim too that he invented the entire world and everyone should pay him patent fees.
[General Questions and Answers] z33dev33l:
It is pretty fishy that he tried to pay off licensing fees... I mean you don't do that without a violation...
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soraxd:
hey guys, my friend just got this phone, and i wanted to set it up for her. i know custom roms usually seem to have an expiration date, before whatever memory tricks they use start to rape the phone.. so im looking for something with long term support.. actually, what im really looking for, is something that has android 2.2, is stable, rooted, and will let me use the hacked camera app (the one where the power button takes pictures, and you can use it during music, and take pics under 15%), and lastly has voodoo sound.. can anyone help point me to a rom that can do this?

thank you all so very much

also i was wondering, does anyone know what 2.2 base rom is the most stable?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheBadBen:
ComRom 2.1. Every good tweak, voodoo away, and rock solid stable.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soraxd:
wth oops ,
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
power washed ed05 is probably by far the most stable froyo rom I have used. The problem is everything froyo based is no longer being supported. Com rom 2.1, evil fascination, pw ed05, geewiz, all are great froyo roms tho...you will have to try them out yourself and determine whats best.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kobesabi:
Hello, I don't own a Fascinate, but is trying to do rom upgrade for a friend. Which of those you mentioned is open source rom?

And for the non froyo rom, is the GPS working as good as Froyo (as in accuracy of 10m or less)? Do you have to load new bootloader or else you get rainbow issue? In your opinion, which fascinate ROM version (Froyo or GB) is more stable?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
honestly if you want open source, flash cm7.1, then flash jt's latest kernal, or glitch v13. gps is the best I have seen on this setup...you might run into a couple small bugs, but nothing I would consider a deal breaker.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kobesabi:
What kind of accuracy are you getting for gps on CM7.1?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
locks within 10sec with 5ft accuracy inside my house! you need to flash one of the kernels I suggested tho...that's what will make the difference on gps performance.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kobesabi:
Nice. Ok, thanks. I will try CM7.1 rom and latest JT kernel when I get the device again. What quadrant score are you getting on it? Is it fast too?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
2800-3000quadrant and imo is very "snappy"
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kobesabi:
Wow...too slow for me. Just kiddin. Is the phone hot? Oh and how is the battery life on it?

I saw the CM7.1 link.

Which link has JT latest kernel?
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
his lates is 11/3 three finger fix...it was posted in tsm pool party thread and cm7.1 thread. battery life is decent. I normally get 14-20hrs depending on usage. about 3-4hrs screen on...that's overclocked to 1300mhz and undervolted -50uv across the board.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kobesabi:
NIce. I don't see his 11/3 three finger fix kernel anywhere on the OP of both of those threads. Do you know which page it is on? Search feature didn't find it.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Big ZD:
I would suggest the PowerWashed Gingerbread. I've been running it for several months now and have had little/no trouble.
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidstyle:
page 15 of tsm thread
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] Solidsnake726:
I dont know too much about it, but I heard it makes sound quality much better. Can someone tell me more about it? and is it available for the DINC 2?
[Verizon Droid Incredible 2] chattguy:
That's Samsung technology, Galaxy S stuff. No-go on porting it to different platforms, as far as I know anyway.

If you want to improve the sound quality in your voice calls, try flashing a modified kernel. Just make sure you use a sense kernel for sense ROMs, and AOSP kernels for AOSP ROMs. I use JDKernel's 9/19/11 beta, he has a downloader on the market. Also you might check out Tiamat, he makes a good AOSP kernel. For Sense kernels, check out this link.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lambergino:
So I have got this Nexus S (I9020) from Rogers and it is pretty much bricked...

Turns on and freezes at the black "Google" Logo with the lock image at the bottom of the screen...

Hold Vol + / Pwr takes me to FastBoot Mode where lock state - Unlocked and at bottom says

USB Control init

USB Control init End

Standard_Set_Configuration

I try to go into thirs option down (recovery) and I just see triangle with "!" and a green android in middle of the black screen... press up/pwr there and I get Android System Recovery <3e> with only these options:

reboot system now

apply update from /sdcard

wipe data/factory reset

wipe cache partition

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I can't put a rom or anything on the sdcard to flash with because I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO get the internal sdcard to mount as a USB drive on my PC.

I have tried 3+ days of search for drivers, tried Google SDK + USB Drivers Package / Samsung Driver Package for Nexus S / Fastboot,ADB "device not found" , nothing!!!!!!

Nothing seems to make this device show up in "My Computer" so I can put required files on the sdcard (internal memory) and flash...

I see the device being detected but the drive is greyed out in Explorer

Please help... there is nothing I can do with this phone but to resist smashing it against a wall :mad:

PS: The whole issue started when I tried to root using SuperUser.zip or something like that... in any case, phone doesn't boot and doesn't get accessed via Mac/PC ... cant access sdcard, cant load rom, cant flash...

Its Brick?!? Garbage? :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frutelaken:
You will need to install ClockWorkMod recovery on the phone. In your situation this can only be done by "pushing" (flashing) the .img file to the phone using fastboot.

Once CWM is installed (will replace your current recovery, the triangle with a square) you can access it through the boot loader like you accessed the older recovery.

In CWM, you can mount your sdcard and upload a custom firmware to it and sequentially install it as well. Once the new rom is installed, your phone will work.

In order to do all the fastboot stuff, I really suggest you read the guides in the General Section of this subforum. If you're having issues connecting your phone to your PC, please read up in this section, this issue has been raised a million times and solved just as many times (hint: it's mostly a drivers issue and the PDANet drivers prove to be very successful for Windows).

Good luck,

Greetz
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lambergino:
I installed PDANet drivers and went to connect in fastboot and the phone states "Fastboot Status - FAILInvalid Command" at the bottom in grey...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albundy2010:
Fastboot devices.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jglm4u:
Hey yall..I need some opinions since im leaving USA and going bk to mexico I wanna know whats the best phone that at&t got since I cant take my galaxy s 4g :( ...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] bkoon1218:
Your best bet would be to look at the AT&T website and check out reviews for the phones that may interest you on YouTube.

Another solution would be to unlock your SGS4G so you can use it on AT&T.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] TheKucho:
SGS2. :D my dream phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jglm4u:
Lolz I heard it the same phone nothing new:)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] TheKucho:
Yeah, i guess you're right. I still want it though haha.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jglm4u:
Lolz Im so confuses on which one to get infuse or lg thrill :(
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] htaak:
Aside from the obvious...dual processor etc...there are a couple of notable down grades in the sgs2 from sgs4g that will effect you daily. The main difference is the drop in audio quality, Samsung went cheap with the DAC's...no more Wolfson, some cheap Yamaha instead. Big turn off for me as my phone doubles as my mp3 player. I also read multiple online reviews that said the sgs2 eats battery like no phone before it. I'm not knocking it, but trading off audio quality and battery life for higher benchmark scores isn't for me. I'd unlock your sgs4g and get an AT&T Sim IMO..

Sent from my SGH-T959V
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] icy56:
Galaxy s 2. Infuse in the exact same thing as our phone, just a bigger screen and better camera. At least the galaxy s 2 is sorta an upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jglm4u:
hmmmm...good idea will umlock it and see how it works down there hope I get 4g...;)
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeflash:
I'm in mexico at the moment. Don't bring your sgs4g. All carriers here use the same freq bands for 3g. They use 850 for 3G and 1900 for gsm, so you would get only 2g (

Edge).

Based on that info, look for a phone that will work well here.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] htaak:
SGS4G can use the following Band (frequency):

* 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)

From Tmobile website....

Sent from my SGH-T959V
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] D12005:
is your phone unlocked? Or are u on tmobile and just not getting 3g because thats kinda expected. I know the vibrant can do att 3g but im not sure on the GS4G
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeflash:
I'm not from the US. I just bought the phone there. I live in Venezuela and over there I have 3g just fine. I came to mexico to work, and bought a Sim card here, from one of the local carriers.

However, all of them use the same band for 3g which is 850. The sgs4g can only get hsdpa (3g) on 1900, 1700 and 2100 mhz.

If you don't mind (you should) using only edge, then bring it with

you, otherwise get another phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jglm4u:
So I be looking on imternet and dint find my answer....about is there any 4g on damn Mexico at all?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mikeflash:
nope, not yet. Only 3g for now.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jglm4u:
Dang sucks ok thank yall.....make my mind up and someone tolde that the iPhone it good down there so will trade this phone with it ...anyways I got fun in USA now time to say good bye ...9 more days lolz
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] edgardron:
Hola