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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
I seen bounty threads in the past. The just don't work from what I saw. It's easy to pledge, but, when the day comes to paying it's just as easy to forget.

Personally I believe a bounty should be more organized. There should be a pot that people donate to. So, the money is actually there to help entice any developer to get more motivated. That would eliminate half ass promises. With this system we will be able to tell how much money one can make for fulfilling the desired request. Problem is deciding who is trustworthy enough to handle this pot.

If this system is somehow adopted I will be donating to the cause.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
personally i was the first one to provide my confirmed donation for the OG Evo wimax on AOSP thread, so its on the honor policy. True there could be better ways to entice, but this is a start.

@OP - usually the subject of the thread is modified with the date and pledge amount total :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] elliwigy:
exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] humdrum2009:
Ill drop $35.0 if its even possible without source. Which you would probably need lots of luck.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Storm T:
Yep, I wonder how many edited posts we'll see in here. lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VeEzyZ32:
subbed!

dis gon be gud
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
is dat sum bounty thread?

...this never ends well...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Avoiding Broken Donation Promises

Idea: Everyone who posts on this thread is giving us their XDA ID info. When it comes time for all of us to "pay up" I'd be happy to post a Shame Page to let everyone know whose word is worthless.

P.S. I'm also good as exposing "bad people" because criminals routinely try to purchase my software, printers & MICR cartridges or use them to commit crimes so I regularly help law enforcement catch and convict them via my Criminal Alerts page

OK people, let me know what you think or offer your own ideas!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
keeping y'all honest !

Here are the people who have promised to donate so far. Maybe they can remove their posts but they can't remove mine!

$20 weltwon

$20 xlGmanlx

$20 ilostmypistons

$25 digweed4me

$20 ehusidic

$20 expr

$35 humdrum2009

$160 Current Total

It's the HONOR SYSTEM. If you want the ROM and have any honor, post your $20 message below. I will continue updating the donors and total until we get the Ice Cream Sandwich ROM for our Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Personally I don't care anyone's reason for or against donating, however when the subject of the thread is for donations I really could care less about reasons not to donate, just stay in the not donating thread
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Just ignore the non-contributors

As was pointed out to me, just ignore any posts that aren't donation pledges or updates on the progress of our Ice Cream Sandwich ROM. We've had enough posts by recognized developers to know that our ROM is being worked on and they are making progress. We're not here to pressure them, just letting them know that their work will be rewarded. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ttieder:
What I don't get is how the nexus s 4g has the sdk port why don't we is it the devs or a hardware and software thing
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
SDK port for Epic 4G Touch

I don't "get it" either. All I know is what we've been told by several devs having made significant progress. Based on the excellent MODS generated by people like PhantomHacker, I have no doubt that we will get our ICS ROM as soon as possible and it will taste good!

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gtuansdiamm:
Ics was kinda a dissapointment

I played with the nexus s port and it was meh
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Akradroid:
We can't have all the parts of ICS because we got no nfc....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] asteetva:
ditto

I just watched the video and was disappointed...Even if it was great I will have to wait till HTC comes with a phone matching E4TG and I will switch to HTC, at least they provide updates.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ttieder:
I think nfc is a waste the beam feature is like bump but better really no point for it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
NFC or STD ?

I concur. IMHO we need NFC about as bad as an STD !

Just give me the rest of the tasty ICS !

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
I'm okay with ICS not being ground breaking visually but makes development from a software market better I chose software support. Especially with windows 8 coming online here early next year. I would prefer extreme performance enhancements and optimization
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
ICS Benefits

I agree. ICS should give us better performance (speed & smoothness) and some new apps. As far as appearance, don't think any experienced Android user will disagree that we ALL want the ability to customize our screens in many ways so whatever new wallpaper or icons come with ICS is probably much less important.

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
ICS update

Just got message from PhantomHacker that he is making progress with the SDK port he's using to build our ICS ROM. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nickcash:
I have a nexus s 4g and played around with ics. Its pretty nice and it grows on you playing around with it for a while. There are some nice visuals added like the screen rotation animation. We'll just have to wait to see it on this phone though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tweeker404:
Awesome news! This does get me excited. Put me down for another 10 total of 30. To know someone is on this means a lot.

Keep up the good news ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Progress on ICS for our Sprint GS2E4GT phones

Yes, it is encouraging when one of the top devs for this device says he is making progress on the ICS ROM for us. I'm currently running PhantonHacker's Starburst v1.95 and the guy really knows what he's doing. I donated a few extra $$$ to him last night after he gave me the good news about our ICS ROM. I believe he is encouraged by the pledged donations on this thread and I know he is also watching this thread so I'm hoping more people will join us. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Biker1:
Sounds Good to me!

My money is waiting to be sent ;-)

I believe give credit where credit is due.

The Developers give of their time to help us out, and I for one am very appreciative.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zdidge:
I hope we eventually break 1k in pledged donations!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] expertzero1:
count me in for 10 bucks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Breaking $1,000 in pledges

We're getting closer every day ... now at $887. Thanks y'all !

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cspen:
Im in! Put 20 down for me.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jarnail24:
Im a serial lurker here and promise 20-50. Just moved from the epic and was disappointed by the slow down in development. I appreciate your guys great work and feel if i want it to keep pace gotta pay to play. Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Promise of $20 or $50 ?

Dear Jamail24,

We appreciate ALL supporters. If each of the other 10,000+ "lurkers" (viewed this thread but donated NOTHING) each pledged only 1 PENNY, we'd already be way over $1,000.

Please be more specific if you want to be counted among us REAL supporters for the our ICS ROM. Are you pledging $20 or $50? Either way, we'll be happy to have you join us!

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jarnail24:
I'll guarantee atleast 25 and more if the quality and speed are up to par with something say Samsung would eventually release who knows when. But put me down for 25 for now with a good usable release
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tweeker404:
That's what I'm talking about :) thanks to everyone who had donated thus far!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] chris41g:
When and if I get the device, ill look into it.. but do realise, that even a fully functional sdk port won't have the performance of an actual device build
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffyv2:
People don't listen bro ...more then half the people will not pay after they release something because they would expect it to run as if Samsung made it or even someone leaks a test build..or even have 4g
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
People listen to those who deliver results

We listen to intelligent developers with the expertise to build custom ROMs

that are the BEST ones available today for our Sprint Galaxy S2

(and BETTER than what we got from Samsung).

Too bad that intelligent group doesn't include you!

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
not to jump in uninvited but ive been following this thread bcuz if sprint doesnt get the galaxy nexus then ill prolly end up getting the epic touch. but you have admit that jeffy does have a point. i currently have the ns3g and drew is working his ass off to get a fully working port. its stable as a daily driver (assuming u dont use bluetooth) but its not without its bugs. and thats a true statement for any sdk port. its one of the main reasons y major rom makers (ei. cyanmod) only work off source. you should clarify to the people donating that the first betas will be buggy as all unholy hell and that more likely than not a stable and daily driver may not b available until the source is dropped.

thats not to undermine the skill of phantom but its the reality of the situation. id say its best to make the people donating fully aware of the situation by placing a disclaimer of some sort in the OP so that any dev who does spend those hours bringing out something decent wont get screwed by dropouts when all is said and done.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Once again these noobs live in a fantasy world . We have told them numerous times and all they do is say we are wrong ....no i never played with sdk port for gingerbread on evo ...it was only a fun thing ....never a full better than HTC Rom ...anything from cyanogen ran 1000 times better
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
ive personally had the unpleasant annoyances of playing with sdk ports. tried to port honeycomb over to every tablet i could think of so i wouldnt have to spend $600 on one lol. turned out to be a utter fail. touchscreen glitches, red screen borders, no flash, etc. thats y when the sdk first dropped i tinkered around with it on my emulator but didnt even think about going through the headache of porting it to my ns. surprisingly beezy and drew have done a ridiculously good job with the ports they are working on. one of the things that contribute to that is the fact that the nexus phones are essentially developer phones (for lack of a better phrase) so they dont have as many hoops to jump through. i just want the readers of this thread to understand that a perfect driver is highly unlikely until source. cuz i know that if i dev'd this and put hours of work and slaving over a keyboard to get something out and was bombarded with posters telling me that they arent gonna donate cuz its not up to theirs hopes and dreams id be pissed. its one thing if no one promised a donation, its a whole other thing to promise and re-nig after the fact.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Secrets to success

For over 45 YEARS I've repeatedly heard people around me saying that this or that "couldn't be done." Each time I proved them wrong, which made success even more enjoyable. Proving people wrong is part of the reason I put the "WELT WON" license plate on the front of my 1963 Silver Cloud III.

As far as a working & stable ICS ROM for the Epic 4G Touch, I don't know if the SDK will allow any developer to deliver the ROM we want. I do know the ROM we get from a developer OUTSIDE of Samsung & Sprint will likely arrive (at worst) within days of the first ICS-equipped Samsung phone hitting a store shelf, will be months ahead of the official Samsung/Sprint release for the E4GT and will run faster & smoother than with the Samsung/Sprint release.

My prediction is based on 2+ years of experiences with a MyTouch3G and Nexus One. I installed and reinstalled dozens of new custom ROMs as fast as they appeared on the web. Custom ROMs run faster, look better and allow rooted freedom that NONE of the factory ROMs have ever offered.

By the time we get the ICS ROM we want, the total REWARD donation pledges on this thread may be many thousands of dollars, and I hope it is. None of us is pledging more than a microscopic fraction of what we'll spend in life on things that we won't even remember.

What YOU might remember is that YOU contributed to a ROM REWARD.

Glenn Welt :)

P.S. I wonder how many times Alexander G. Bell, or Steve Jobs heard that their ideas couldn't be achieved.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Real donations for real work

Spoken like a true WINNER. We all run into losers in life, some of which have posted on this thread and will likely continue doing so. I've already promised to monitor the pledged donations on this site and I don't "re-nig." That's why I'm not afraid to use my real name on this thread.

Glenn Welt :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
1. i never said it couldnt be done. just mentioned that a small disclaimer may be in order as not to give the illusion that the donators are gonna get a perfect port. im trying to protect the dev with that one

2.you made a good point but you should mention that there is a chance that this port might not be obtained until source is dropped. and google has said that wont be until a few weeks after the gnex is launched.

3.i dont know what your car has to do with this

4. you cannot liken experiences youve had with pure google phones (nexus one and nexus s) to development on any other device. the layers of ui and code entanglement are much less complex then something running touchwiz or sense
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] niv3d:
Well is it possible to have an Epic Touch without touchwiz and just have basically a pure google phone with ICS?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Yes it is possible and will be done .... Cyanogen is aosp and there will be others that put out aosp Roms
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] niv3d:
When do you think we could look forward to seeing this? That would be amazing!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
yeah like epix said cyanmod does all their ports based on aosp. but at the end of the day while you have removed the outlining ui the code itself is still in the bootloader and underlying processes of the phone. so while it will be purely aosp in regards to you using it it will never truly be pure google.

its like building a car around a horse and buggy. everything on the outside says its a v6 mustang but when you open the hood you see the difference lol

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cyanmod has said repeatedly that they only work off of source code. so when the source code is dropped you can start looking for cm9 releases. (cm8 is held out of respect for honeycomb, or something like that lol)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Codeworkx has done some work but he does not have a phone ... Koush has one and was working on cwm and Rom manager support and then some one said he would pass it to a Cyanogen Rom dev ....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
Koush got a test model of the gnex? color me ridiculously jealous lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Acronym Alphabet Soup

Epix4G brings up a good point about AOSP possibly eliminating much of the extra UI headaches in Samsung ROMs. Thought I'd made this clear a zillion posts ago and on my OP but I'll say it 1 more time:

REWARD is for whomever delivers a working & stable ICS ROM with the new features being offered by ICS. Nobody is saying it needs to be made from an SDK, STD or STEAK (medium rare please). It needs to be functional, stable and won't unroot our E4GT phones.

We simply want it ASAP and long before Samsung/Sprint decides to bless our Epic 4G Touch with their ICS update.

Glenn Welt :)

P.S. I apologize for mentioning a car. I was only trying to point out that success is sweet revenge against those who say goals can't be achieved.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
No a epix-touch

Also please don't bother them with eta ....Koush and agraben have touch4g follow them on twitter and g+ ...Koush already has been bombarded with eta and posted on g+ he was not happy about it just be patient they will update
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MaliceOmega:
oh ok. i thought u saying that he was trying get cwm and clockwork running on a gnex lol

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well hopefully a dev can make it past all the touchwiz garbage and bring an sdk port to the epic touch. im loving ics right now. the ui just feels so much better to use, its one thing to see it but its a whole other to have it in hand. the i major thing that has me going phoneless waiting to see if the nexus is gonna be released on sprint is the lack of capacitive buttons. the resolution was also a factor but from what u understand the super amoled hd is virtually identical to super amoled plus to the naked eye.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lilredzmd:
Donation as well for the Update

I also would make a $300 donation. Im so in love with ICS. I crave it. Anytime Im doing random searches every hour on the hour. Im determined. I wish I knew how to port my damn self. But PhantomHacker. U got my dough if this miracle becomes a success. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
$300 pledge puts us at $1,232.00 !

Wow! Your $300 pledge even makes my $100

seem like I don't really want ICS on my E4GT.

Thank you sir!

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] expertzero1:
300 I smell bs
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] paranoid android85:
I'm pledging my first born child
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] iSaint:
Woooo .... props
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
MD = BS ?

Just because you pledged less, doesn't mean others can't afford a lot more.

If the guy really is an MD, he might make that much in 3 minutes!

If anybody starts pledging more than the cost of the phone,

that's when my BS detector will go off. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lilredzmd:
You smell what..How bout I simply want my cake and ice cream sandwich 2..

MD...LoL..that made me laugh..(it stands for Maryland where I reside). Secondly. $300 doesnt make me or break me on anyday. I simply am a Android Fanactic. My schedule is so busy I can take the time to learn Androids In Depth Code of recreation. I simply root, tweak and mod the crap out my phones amd use it to show off to my business partners and take pride amd enjoyment in there pain of having a dumb iPhone. Whatever version that may be sorry my opiniom f**k Apple. Android Kicks Ass. So if yes to me its worth $300 to have a Dual Core ICS Sprint Android Device before Sprint even offers it..(prolly after or around xmas). So thanks for your concerns jacka**. But thats what I choose to do wid my funds I shall do so..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] joetrisman:
I have yet to root due to LOS fears, but I'll gladly pop my ET4G's cherry if a ICS rom rolls out :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
No fear needed as you can get root and clockworkmod without risking any los
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dkotoric:
how do i root with the actual clockwork from douche
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leyvatron:
Wow!!! This will be getting interesting.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Odin the stock kernel and cwm and then flash super user and busy box
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Android vs. Apple

Part of why I want ICS is similar to what lilredmd says, especially after I suffered through 2 YEARS of daily dropped calls with AT&T and had to trade original iPhones FOUR TIMES at local Apple stores due to overheating and screen freezes. Watching people suffer through the AntennaGate episode with the iP4's really made me laugh ("hold it this way") . Now I get chuckles just putting my E4GT next to the iP4S just to show them what a REAL super screen looks like. Steve Jobs deserves credit for the original concept but IMHO, the iPhone now looks and feels like it contains sardines.

Glenn

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nate633:
I'm in for $30.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] expertzero1:
Cool story "bro". Now tell that story again please? You do know that 300 dollars is very irrational jack***.

Sweet, take my pledge out because i pledged "less" than others.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zoidpilot:
Hey hey now don't patronize the man because he wants to spend his money this way. Don't make it personal. Calling anyone bad words and names online is never a good idea. Last I checked we do this all in good fun. Leave all that spite at home on the dresser we don't need a mod to lock this thread.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
experzero1's pledge has been removed

As you have requested, your pledge has been removed.

As another member just said,

making nasty remarks about another person

who is helping us achieve our goal

just makes you look bad.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] lilredzmd:
Smh.:confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mmmajor:
Is there any news about somebody getting close??
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Getting close to ICS for Epic 4G Touch

Nobody is using the word "close" but based on reports from several developers, including PhantomHacker, they are working on it and encouraged by our REWARD on this thread. As several people have pointed out, it's tougher if they must work from the SDK vs. having a full code release from Samsung or having a Samsung phone in their hands that contains the full ICS ROM.

Might be a few days or might be in time for Christmas. All I know from past experience is that if the talented developers are motivated, we can expect to get it much sooner from one of them than we will from Samsung or Sprint. As I say in my original post, our REWARD is supposed to be the INCENTIVE to motivate developers so we get ICS as soon as possible.

When I say "sooner" we might be enjoying our Ice Cream Sandwich 6 MONTHS before Samsung or Sprint releases the update.

Based on feedback from developers and a report that Verizon will be selling phones with ICS on 11/25/2011,

I believe we will get ICS around December 2. If we get it sooner, we'll all be even happier!

Glenn :)

P.S. Occupy Wall Street has already raised OVER $500,000 for people littering our cities and costing tax-paying citizens even more in clean-up and security, yet we only have $1252 in donation pledges here to be paid for real work. What's wrong with this picture of America?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zdidge:
I like your enthusiasm Weltwon! I am coming from the OG Epic, so I am cautiously optimistic....we never got the RC CM7 and that bummed me out. IMO, the ET4G is Sprints best phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zdidge:
I do wonder if we will ever get another Evo type device that got the attention of so many developers. The ET4G should be that phone. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Have you checked the development section recently? There are all kinds of ROM's and activity going. Its picking up and only will get better as established Dev's move onto hopefully this device.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] latoso:
Put me down for 50, I want I C S.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Getting Better Attention

I agree (says the OP as we just passed $1300 in pledged donations for our ICS ROM).

Thanks everyone !

Do I hear $2500 as our next goal?

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoridinAmalasan:
Whoa, whoa. Maybe because fixing a broken economic system is a little bit more important than a phone?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Effective Communications in 2011

I agree that our system is broken and infested with corruption, especially banks. Banks destroyed real estate, we bailed them out, they return the favor with $60/yr to use a debit card.

Whether it's trying to fix the economy or trying to get the next ROM for our Epic 4G Touch smartphones, I believe we get more results in the world today when we voice our opinions using creativity & the web. One post on youtube can reach millions in a day and nobody gets hurt, arrested or causes property damage. Maybe protestors (with their signs) should start dancing on treadmills and post a video.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
Wow. That's a lot of donations. If I wasn't completely ignorant with how ROM cooking is, I'd consider trying. LOL!