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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
yeah, I think about this constantly...and it's not even the price that keeps me anymore, it's the unlimited. My use can vary between 1.5gb a month to 20gb a month depending on where I go and what I do. I don't even want to know what that would cost me on ATT or Verizon...and T-Mobile is just a non-starter due to even worse coverage than Sprint.

But lets say I get some of that ATT or Verizon 20-40mbps action. I can peg that for minutes before burning through my limit of data...that's scary. Now, okay, even sticking to my same usage pattern...no, honestly I can't even gauge that. If I didn't get cut off or lagged to death I would almost certainly consume tons more data.

Is this fear enough to keep me? Not for much longer. Do you hear that Sprint? A lot of us are thinking very seriously a bout switching. Sure, 20-40mbps is on the 'ideal-to-high' side for HDSPA+ and LTE but I would jump ship for half of that, or even a reliable quarter of that. DO YOU HEAR THAT SPRINT? I WOULD PAY MORE MONEY FOR A TIERED PLAN THAT PROMISED TO DELIVER MY DATA AT SPEEDS THAT THEIR NETWORK WOULD CONSIDER 'CONGESTED' Meanwhile we're over here on Sprint praying to get 1/16th of those speeds and failing to get even that. Sure, promise us unlimited data and then fail to provide a speed that would even allow half of us to hit the limit of the equivalent plan on Verizon or ATT...

I'm very seriously considering leaving Sprint after more than a decade. This service is bad and just getting worse. Now we have the iPhone. Big fncking deal. I hope it was worth it to Sprint, cuz it certainly wasn't to me.

Galaxy Nexus...nice phone...a slightly bigger slightly higher res version of this phone (essentially, lets not nit pick here) except it's not only on Verizon's awesome 3G network (which I'm roaming on right now), but also Verizon LTE network.....for $10 more a month and watching my data usage a little I never have to worry about getting hosed with 250-500kbps service on a constant basis....hmm, not too bad.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
I say you set the font size to 7 so Sprint can really hear you.

Oh wait, XDA is not a Sprint forum...

If your service doesn't do what you need it to, switch to one that does instead of making empty threats on a hacker forum that can't help you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LordLugard:
Guess I'm not the only one with insomnia at 4am...

Sent from my SPH-D710
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I have to say I'm also thinking about jumping ship from Sprint. I love my ET4G but the network speeds are complete crap. I'm in Los Angeles, only 15 minutes from downtown and I get CRAP speeds everywhere I go in Los Angeles County and in Tucson. Sprint's network just plain sucks. I get slow 3G speeds and rarely even connect to 4G and 4G speeds are usually about the same as my 3G speeds if it stays connected.

I've been with them for a decade now and get pretty good pricing but I want good data now more than ever. As soon as they change from 5GB cap on data service for phones I'll be able to dump my contract without an ETF and I'll go to Verizon. Sprint's prices are only a deal if you get comparable service to other providers. http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ost-iphone-launch-45-pages-of-complaints-bad/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Lol, did I hit a sensitive spot? Slow speeds gettin' ya down? LTE envy?

To think that someone from Sprint doesn't keep an eye on this place is outright stupid....though it likely isn't someone who could help. I think it's even more idiotic to think that Sprint would listen to one lone complainer when they haven't listened to hundreds of thousands yet. Hell, on their own forum they can just delete the dissenting comment.

A thread full of impotent rage is surely more useful than a dump-truck full of deleted comments.

Besides, do you think Sprint would prefer to be the discount third-rate network? If they could snap their fingers and come up with the capitol to say "make it so" and have the network be competitive I'm sure they would. They can't. I could email everyone one of the top brass at Sprint, fax it to them, have the message hand delivered to everyone that mattered and it wouldn't be any more effective.

Here I am among a group of peers who share many of the same issues, at least here my comment can't be deleted by the company it criticizes. I'm bouncing ideas around, thinking out loud, commiserating. Sometimes "just talking about it" can be cathartic and be enough to relieve the frustration...or perhaps lead to solutions.

If this thread doesn't have only messages that you like switch to one that does instead of leaving *****y replies on a hacker forum that can't help your either?

....This is the /General forum, that's why...a thread about considering leaving Sprint no less. Seems the perfect venue to me. What else did you think you'd find in here?

That said this is no empty threat. If things don't start turning around soon it's going to be pretty hard to stick around here once that LTE Nexus Galaxy comes out...I've got a couple 'outs' on my contract like a dead-spot that an air-rave couldn't fix. The Verizon signal there is fantastic and I hear it's an LTE tower too.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmbatson:
/Rant/

holy cow. I wish i could just get over 200kbps in my area....

I have to drive like 8 miles to just get 800-1000kbps in Tucson. BUT if i go DEEP into tucson by the university and everything else ill get about 1600kbps - 1900kbps.

Sprints towers in my neighborhood have been on and off since August 21st. Ive dropped more calls in those few months then with the 8 years ive had them and keep roaming and at times wont even get my texts and calls.

I also have been getting a call from the same Rep every tuesday asking if signal is any better and i give the same response and he puts out a trouble ticket.

just this bs alone makes me want to get verizon (my GF has a Droid Inc 2 and she gets 2000kbps in my house. ) But the 2gb cap and the fact that for the family of smartphones with discount is $264 and alot more than i pay now.

I know its not just my phone, its every sprint phone that is in my area.

/End of Rant/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Wizard220:
Now now lets look at what Sprint has bet the entire farm on. They have betted over 20 BILLION dollars just to accomodate the IPHONE and iphone alone. Yes you read that right 20 Billion dollars. What about the rest of the other phones in their lineup.

I am not knocking a thing here just saying that is Sprint can bet the farm aka 20+ Billion just for the iphone then they can put some cash toward supporting the other phones.

I am now looking at Verizon and will be pricing a plan that compares to what I have with Sprint and if its not too much more money then well sorry Sprint I am gone.

Here in my hometown Verizon is rock solid and with 4g. Sprint sucks the big arse big time and the speeds I am getting is 200K down and about 170K up. Its so bad and has gotten worse in the last year that I have to use my TWC internet connection just for data uses on my Epic 4 g touch. I am paying that extra 10 bucks a month just because of the phone and for what crap service.

Again if Sprint can bet the farm and shell out over 20 Billion dollars just for the iphone then they can invest in the rest of us. If not then maybe its time to find another provider.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I agree. Granted, to stay competitive, I think they had to do whatever it took to get the iPhone... does that give them a fighting chance? At best. This wasn't capitol either, it was a promise of future sales. This, honestly, all looks terrible for Sprint in the short term and uncertain, at best, in the long term. Have you seen what their shares have been trading at?

Meanwhile I have seen the once ass-kicking network where with my LG Lotus I could pull down 2mbps on a regular basis tethered (for only $15 more than my $69.99 plan) only ~2 years later I can barely hit 500kbps for $10 on top of my $69.99 plan...and then the onslaught of iPhone users comes in to gobble up the rest. So I'm paying $5 less than I was ~2 years ago for 25% of the speed and 25% of the availability...My connections time out so much that I have to hit 'reload' so many times it's absurd. Pop on 00001.PRL to see what the other side lives with....1.5mbps all day every day, even in my apartment where I routinely get 150-500kbps. Randomly, except during peak hours (noon, give or take 6 hours) where I'm lucky to even get a connection. I absolutely need to use Opera Mini to even load a non-mobile version of a web page....how fast is it going then? Who knows, the speedtest app hangs at 'finding server'.

Things did seem to be picking up in the weeks leading up to the iPhone launch, but, that phone has made any gains moot. If in the next month I don't see some real action it's over...I'm going *sigh* Verizon. Paying too much for data you do get is preferable to paying anything for data you don't get.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmexs:
I've wanted to switch for 6 or more months now. The only thing keeping me is the Google Voice/Sprint integration. Being able to check and answer all my texts and calls online regardless of where I am geographically or what state my phone is in is huge for me.

I'd easily leave and tolerate a 2GB cap that I actually have the capacity to reach, than deal with poor service even in the midst of an AirRave. I too am experiencing abysmal network speed in a decent sized American city.

I'd also love to tap in to the international developement base as far as having a popular unlocked GSM phone like the (original) GSII goes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Just port your number out to Google Voice. I did that with my last phone when I got out of contract for free. It cost $20 and took 3 days. They still haven't gottem MMS straightened out yet but in the past week they made it a priority...currently Sprint-to-Sprint MMS works. But I just sent a mass-text to everyone that would even send me MMS (few people, honestly, 8 or 9 maybe?) and told them to send MMS to the new number. So now I get that same integration no matter where I go. So now all voicemails and text to that number go to my phone, web browser GV tab and my tablet. It's insanely handy and totally worth the $20 and minor hassle.

I myself was thinking about going to Verizon for the Nexus Prime...and they still have month-to-month plans if you buy the device outright. That way if Sprint happens to get their **** together and fixes this network up--or if the tiered data plans end up being too much to deal with--I can just bail.

EDIT: I just looked into Verizon:

450 Minutes : $39.99

250 Messages : $5.00

2GB Data : $30.00 = $74.99 a month

or 5GB Data : $50.00 = $94.99 a month

...not to bad if I can keep it under 2GB, palatable for 5GB plan.... I'm not thrilled about it, at all. But, to get usable data on a month-to-month plan I'll just might take it.

T-Mobile:

Unlimited Everything + 2gb "full speed" = $79.99 a month

Unlimited Everything + 5gb "full speed" = $89.99 a month

...not too shabby, but, they have no compelling phones right now and even though I hear their 3G and "4G" (aka 3.5G) is pretty damned fast I'm not so sure about their coverage

AT&T:

450 Minutes : $39.99

2GB Data : $25.00 = $64.99 a month

4GB Data + tethering: $45 = $74.99 a month

though they don't seem to have any txting packages except the $20 unlimited, which is ridiculous. that's fine for me, I use GVoice, but, how to MMS count, just data? Their coverage around here ain't bad and their data speeds are very fast from what I hear.

hmmm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Wizard220:
And lets not forget, Sprint has taken the "first" step toward teired data plans. Yes if you have mobil plan with them ( not cell phone ) you now have a teired data plan. before you pay a flat rate and got unlimited.

To me this is the last step before teired data plans comes to us cell phone users. With all the changes that Sprint has done this will be the final nail in its coffen. If Sprint does roll out teired data plans there will be zero reason to stay with them. Why because you can pay about the same price maybe just a little more and get solid service, solid data rates.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bbedward:
If sprint losses unlimited data I'd be gone. My 3g is miserable in Toledo 200-300 kbps. i'm never off wifi anymore.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Amen to that.

Unless they plan on keeping the same ****ty service, crappy speed and going tiered but drastically undercutting the competition. $29 2gb plan, $49 5gb plan, $89 10gb plan....but I doubt it...

They had a chance to shift the paradigm of the mobile industry. But that window seems to have totally closed now with their new network "vision" horse ****. They should have converted everything to data--since it already is anyway. Set up VOIP and been a strictly mobile data provider. I'm sure Google would have partnered up with them in a heartbeat for that. Sure, there would have to be the traditionally long cell-com transitional period, but, that 2G stuff is just wasting spectrum...convert it all to and interwoven data network that bonds and hands off between spectrums as necessary with VoIP riding on top. Charge only for data, maintain only a data network and 911 service+location service. Hell, with large enough tiers a tiered system would have also been acceptable. Entry level 10gb package, $39.99 + $9.99 for Sprint Voice service, or you can get your own from Google Voice or Skype or whatever...

But it seems like Sprint is stumbling hard and fast.

I just can't stand this "service" anymore...I just might enact "The Nuclear Option" out of my contract. My real number has already been ported to Google Voice for a month now... 00001.PRL is ready to be loaded, once that Nexus Prime drops I might be tethering my home network to my phone for a few days of torrents... I'll sell the ET4G for whatever I can get and pay the difference of full-retail for the NP, go month to month with Verizon and see how it plays out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dmexs:
But from my understanding if I switch I'll have a different cell phone number and I will have to use the Google Voice dialer (the little box that says dialing with google voice) to make calls if I want them to show my GV number and send all my texts from the GV (not the native app). This could be a problem because it is data driven and data coverage is far less than the basic 1x needed to send a text natively.

Additionally though more of a moot point, this means that I can only really use an Android phone to achieve the same GV features. I think I prefer the carrier-side integration.

But perhaps I'll give using the GV app for texting a week and see how it goes.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
I use handcent and it seems to work just fine when replying to an inbound text to my GV number.

Though you are right about out-bound calls...I only care about my inbound calls to that number, so, that is a sticking point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
A sensitive spot?

No. I'm just tired of the fact that a forum about hacking phones has turned into a whine-fest about data speeds. "OMG I CANT RUN A SERVER WITH MY SPEEDS"

Look bud, I see that you think that this is a new subject around here, but it's not.

This topic has been discussed as much as "how do I root" and "the $10 premium data fee"

But guess what, THIS IS NOT A SPRINT FORUM

If you think that Sprint is monitoring the entire internet just to see if anyone has a complaint then I have a group of smileys for you.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

As far as your comments basically stating that Sprint is never going to have a competitive network, I mean.... is it really that hard to read?

Network Vision has been discussed, and explained, on these forums some much that it's probably the 4th most discussed topic behind the other three previously named.

My grandma understands Sprint Vision, so why don't people on a hacker forum that are *supposed* to know more?

It's just this simple:

If your network doesn't work for you, don't complain to no end about it on a forum that can do nothing for you, just switch to a network that does.

Unhappy about something in life? TAKE ACTION.

Is it that hard? It shouldn't be.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
I think the tower by my house got upgraded with network vision. For the past month I was getting sub 100kbs speeds. It got to a point where I was getting those speeds on off peak hours. I tested my 3g yesterday @ noon and I am averaging around 800kps - 1 mbs on 3g now. So this is why I think I just got touched with network vision.

Go Sprint?!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
If you had bothered to read my first reply (I'll quote it for you below so you don't have to click the back button) you would see that I wasn't expecting "server speeds."

Furthermore your right this isn't a sprint forum, but it is a forum for a sprint phone..... I'm willing to bet most people with a

sprint

epic touch have sprint service...

That stuff aside, bottom line:

If you don't like this thread then don't read it and please don't post here.

Don't let that back button hit you on the way out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
No, Network vision is going to bring a lot better speeds than that.

I wasn't directing my post to you, that's why I quoted someone else.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
Why you mad bro?

Need to relax a little :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Listen, I don't want to start a pissing contest or flame war. The simple fact is we have congregated in this thread to discuss something in a forum perfectly suited to it. You don't have to click on a thread that doesn't interest you and I don't see why you would click on a thread whose contents you already know will infuriate you. There are plenty of threads I have never clicked on once regardless of them being there for weeks.

Please, before this turns into a flame war just leave us be and we'll return the favor.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Nick281051:
That couldn't have been an inspire its only hspa+ with theoretical speeds of 14.4 mbps maybe it was wifi
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Just because you didn't direct it at me doesn't make me incapable of seeing that your wrong.

This man says it best:

Multiple people have asked you to leave this thread, please honor that request.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
That's not true unless the HSPA+ radio in the Inspire is limited to 14.4.

http://connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/news/test-hspa-plus-lte-06110/

Its wrong to request that people stop turning XDA into whinefests about something instead of taking action and solving your issue?

Wake up.

No, its not.

And I will post in any thread I want thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
2. Member conduct.

2.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.

2.6 All members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Back to the topic at hand:

Not sure, it might be fairly cheap now that you mention it. I think she is still on a family plan with her parents and brother. If I asked him to add me I'm sure he would. I also remember him telling me he had grandfathered unlimited data, but I don't know if that applies to add a lines. Might be time for a conversation.

Is there an extra fee for the month to month?

If they kill unlimited data its over for sprint.

Maybe your right, I was a bit intoxicated last night, but I don't ever recall setting her up on my wifi. She is gone now so no way to check. I'll be stealing a few friends phones to run speed tests on tomorrow at work.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cds0699:
@ the bolded: And because of this, they also are welcome to post anything within xda rules in any thread they want. You're not the forum police, you're a member just like the rest of us. If someone is breaking the rules, then report it and let the mods handle it. If they're not, then realize they have the freedom to post what they want.

Have a nice day.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
With all due respect you do realize that the only one whining in here is you?

Why don't you take action to solve the issue that is most certainly yours, your annoyance with this thread, and just stay out of it? The rest of us are considering our options in regard to the network out phones are connected to. That might not be spec-sheet nitty gritty stuff, but it is of a technical nature.

Either way, gentlemen, I hear the is a user-ignore feature under your profile settings. Why don't we all march over there and take care of this for our selves.

---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:52 PM ----------

It didn't mention one...and that's before all of the other seemingly random fees and taxes and regulatory things come into play. I'm betting it'll clock in around $90 a month, give or take $5.

I think this is the route I'm going to take. It'll give me flexibility to come back to Sprint if and when they get their act together without having to wait it out for 2 years.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] boe:
I see a lot of posts like this. Do you really need unlimited data - at 200kbps - how much data do you really use per month? To be clear, this isn't an attack - I'm actually curious. Maybe you do use a lot more than 5GB - I'm asking as I'm curious what most people actually use for data when they can only get 200kbps like me.

I'd rather have a firehose to put out a fire but only be able to use 5000 gallons than use a straw and have unlimited gallons of water.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
I was done until you started again.

The whole thread is whinefest bud.

Thread number 263748585848 on this topic.

Taking action is not hard.

Do it.

And feel free to put me on ignore if someone stating "take action instead of complaining on a forum that can do nothing for you" offends you.

I wouldn't want to discuss **** with someone like that.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Never thought I'd have to use that feature, but look at that all his posts have disappeared. Its better to not feed the trolls.

hmmm unfortunately if I leave my plan I can't come back to it. I can get it down to $30 per month and keep it on the backburner until I know for sure. decisions decisions
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
There is also "seasonal hold" where they hold your line and number, even in contract, for $8 a month? $8.99 maybe.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] R1ptide:
Thanks I'll look into that, might be the perfect solution especially if it can be paired with call forwarding of some type.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daneurysm:
Lol, that might be pushing it a little... Google Voice to the rescue again...lol

Even with it's beta-level issues that are still being worked on (like MMS, which number gets used when you text or call being circumstantial, etc) I can't advocate it enough...though I am eager for it to become "1.0" some day.

It's a Google service, who am I kidding...Beta for life, lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] wase4711:
Is it just me, or does EVERYONE use their phone like their pc at home now a days?

I mean, in reality, when I want fast downloads, for large files, I do it at home, with my 50/10 Comcrap web service; do that many of you actually download large files all the time on your cell phones???

I use my phone as a phone, email tool, text tool, and to listen to music; granted, Sprint's 3g speed suck, but, really, does it matter if you don't get 20 meg dl speed on your cell phone?

I guess if your cell phone is your only link to the internet, you don't have much choice, but isn't that the Exception, or is that the new Rule?