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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Trust & Respect

If 2 or more developers don't have mutual respect & trust each other, they shouldn't be working together in the first place.

I've already said that I plan to keep things simple and as fair as possible so please don't post any more "what ifs."

If a situation arises that warrants special treatment, I will rely on my 45 years as the head

of many businesses and organizations to find an amicable solution or I will refer to a recognized authority

on said matter(s). Aside from getting a ROM and choosing a winner, my reputation is on the line here

and 58 other total strangers are already trusting me to handle this in a fair and professional manner.

Glenn
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cspen:
That would be great! Hopefully that will bring more Devs.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
I don't meant working together with someone. Obviously if you work with someone, you had better trust each other. I mean if one dev or a team put together an ICS ROM and someone else kangs it. We shouldnt have to worry about it but that's how XDA is sometimes and it's a shame.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
We just topped $500 in less than 1/2 a day !

$20 weltwon

$20 xlGmanlx

$20 ilostmypistons

$25 digweed4me

$20 ehusidic

$20 expr

$35 humdrum2009

$10 pyrostic

$75 newalker91

$20 tomyboombotz

$100 albie1937

$100 cdszoke

$17 Pheno.menon

$20 aaron130

$502 Current Total and counting !

Yes, as one post said, we might all be waiting a bit longer but if OUR group is offering the best enticement to developers, we will have the first custom ROM.

WE WANT ICS ! Wonder if we can get Sprint to chip in ... any thoughts?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kzoak82:
I'm in for $20
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tweeker404:
You can put me down for $20 as well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] atoore:
This is a nice community! Good luck guys and I hope y'all get what you want:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Nexus Prime vs. our Sprint Galaxy S2

Valid points for suyre. However, if we get a large enough pledge, might encourage several developers to work together so we get it sooner & they can split the pot. Yes, if we all sit on our thumbs, we'll eventually see an ICS update issued by samsung but looking at the history of such updates, I'd be surprised if Samsung issues an ICS update before next Summer and I suspect most of the crew at Cyanogen will be working on whatever Samsung dictates. IMHO, one of the people who has already given us custom ROMs for the E4GT will be the winners in this "race", partially because they already know what the Sprint GS2E4GT "track" looks like!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Boosting our thread rating

PEOPLE: Be sure to give our thread a 5 star rating so our General headline stay in BOLD text

Not begging, just saying that the BOLD headlines get more attention.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
Bold headlines means activity and new content not votes
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leyvatron:
Put me down for $20
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] WhiteWidows:
Your OP is a little misleading. Samsung hasn't released the source code...thats Googles decision and they stated it wont be until the Galaxy Nexus is released. We will be waiting a while. So having the 1st US device with ICS wont happen, that title with got to the Galaxy Nexus.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jeffyv2:
Ok ill come out and say it since no one else will....

This thread is useless.... bribing a dev won't get ics on this phone .. and when they actually have the tools and actual stuff to be able to port anything...would be a long time from now....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Will of fire:
I kind of agree but i guess we will wait and see, i dont like puting peoples hopes down. Lets just see what happens
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] zelduy:
$20 from me too!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Positive vs. Negative Thinking

Gentlemen: How much success has negative thinking brought in your life?

I've been successful in many businesses and activities since age 5 because I'm a very POSITIVE thinker. All of us know that financial rewards and RECOGNITION are very positive motivators. I'm sorry for the losses and missed opportunities of anyone who chooses to be a negative person.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
ICS and beta testing

The HTC Googlephone already has ICS which was presented this week to the media. Our goal is to be the first "other phone" to get ICS. Having been a beta software tester for Microsoft and Hp, I know that the code is already out there being used and tested. Just a matter of time before it magically appears in the hands of a developer.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
You are entitled to your opinion. Sorry you're a negative person & glad I'm a positive one because being positive has brought me much success and happiness in many ways.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
$582 pledged after only 12 hours !

$20 weltwon

$20 xlGmanlx

$20 ilostmypistons

$25 digweed4me

$20 ehusidic

$20 expr

$35 humdrum2009

$10 pyrostic

$75 newalker91

$20 tomyboombotz

$100 albie1937

$100 cdszoke

$17 Pheno.menon

$20 aaron130

$20 kzoak82

$20 tweeker404

$20 leyvatron

$20 zelduy

$582 Current Total and counting !
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Beta testing of Ice Cream Sandwich

Does anyone on here know someone who is currently testing ICS in the USA?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
Op do me a favor and take my name off the list. Please read my whole post and not just the $ amount next time thank you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cricketjoe:
Put me down for 10! I'm broke but I want this bad.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] reddragon72:
HAHAHAHA this is too funny!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyPeT-ZUbBw&feature=player_embedded

a phone over a year old has a "just for fun" port!

Too funny!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Alright, I will get it up tonight. But I really hope No one flashes it. It won't do **** right now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] asteetva:
just phone and 3g

Even if just the phone function and 3g works without contestant fc, i can use it daily as i don't care much for 4g its hardly there.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
No, like literally, it moves from the Galaxy S splash to the boot animation that doesn't work and shows 2 white rectangles on the screen. That's as far as it gets for now lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leyvatron:
I see what Viper is saying.

I'm sure he is working on a little something something asking all these questions.

I really hope we get an Ice Cream Viper sandwich...poisonous and all.

Wish you the best Viper...You have been real good to the Epic Touch boards.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
it takes more than 12 gigs of ram to do this rom thing?

just curious, why?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] asteetva:
you will get it working..:-)

I know you will get it working soon...No pressure...Don't want to even know ETA, as what ever you said right now must have made a lot of people like me comfortable...:-)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Thanks man, I try.

I would love to know this too haha

Good :) I may not be the first with an ICS ROM but all that matters is that we get one and can work together if possible to do this.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Teamwork

Really nice to see this thread being used by developers working together.

I'm sure none of the donors will object to this thread being used as

the main communications hub for ICS ROM builders.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
They recommended at least 16 gb. Of ram and ssd as harddrive ....8 cores and it still takes more than twice as long to build than gingerbread. It has alot of new smali and back smali stuff ...lots of low level machine code ... its like building honeycomb and gb at same time .... just going to get worse too.... it may be a way for them to get lots of people not to mess with it .... but your guess is as good as mine
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] roscher150:
PUt me down for 20 ... TIME TO GET INVOLVED :-$
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
WOW

sound incredible

cross me off the list as a future potential rom developer lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ewalk4866:
Put me down for $10 can't wait to see what we get :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] joetrisman:
Guys on the galaxy S have the source complied and booting.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1338636

Pretty impressive for only being out about 24h
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
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View attachment 784070sh one of the devs lived on kauai. I got the phenom 2 BE x6 core 1090 T over clocked to 4.3Ghz with 8gig off 2000mhz ram and 2 SSD hard drives in raid 0 with 2 terabytes of backup HD space septate from OS HD's and wish a dev could put it to use as my monitor its a 42" 3D tv. But kauai is far to remote for most dev's to live :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
what side you stay?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
Lihue by Wilcox Hospital
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graffixnyc:
I'm willing to lend a hand. After 20+ hours I got it to build on my dell duo netbook/tablet with only 2 gigs of ram and a atom processor. lol

It built without errors but I didnt modify anything(so it's a galaxy nexus build). I just wanted to see if I could get it to build without error. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leyvatron:
Thats def a good start....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Damn, well I'm downloading now and seeing if I can do anything with it.

Well atleast it builds lol holy **** that takes forever though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xlGmanlx:
I stay oahu but I LOVE Kauai
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
Wish there was one developer here so I could look over his shoulder and learn one thing our two
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1348832

:)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] asteetva:
Great Viper

I saw that early in the morning its great but some people are posting things which might be discouraging, so please ignore them...Also request to other readers if you see people commenting which are not encourgaging in that thread, unless its a pure non hurting joke, please start reporting that person by clicking on the yelow triangle...I have startd doing that
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Choosing to be POSITIVE

I agree with asteetva. It's just a shame that some can only get attention by posting negatives.

Speaking of positives, Cyanogen is blasting BirdLand (twittter) claiming they'll have their CM9 ICS ROM

in January but haven't seeen any mention of a version for our E4GT.

I suspect I'll see some of it at the CES Show. If I get lucky, one of my friends

at Samsung will hand me a phone with ICS in it. If we still don't have our ICS ROM by then,

I can forward it to a dev.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
Spiicytuna is going to check with agraben and koush. To see what is happening with et4g ...someone said toast may get it but haven't heard what spiicytuna found out ...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bubby323:
I'm almost done with CyanogenMod.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tomyboombotz:
Bubby. U have everything working
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Did you get with spiicy? I know he was working on it last night haha you down for helping us out with ICS, bubby?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Cyanogen

Things at CM seem to have changed since their top guy went to work for Samsung.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
I'm still happy for the guy though. Samsung did a good thing, I think. But it's not all their fault, they didn't have source for HC and with so many new phones coming out, the people who dev on them have alot of choices so it may be hard to find really good devs for every phone to maintain CM.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Samsung

I've dealt with Samsung on a number of levels over the past 10 years.

Long story short, I've seen them promise one thing, then do what's ONLY best for Samsung

regardless of who it hurts AND make intentional changes to block anyone else from servicing their products.

Funny thing is, I'm saying this as I sit in a room with a Samsung UN55D7000 TV, HT-Q70 HTS, ML-2525W printer,

CLP-325W printer, Galaxy 8.9 Tab and of course my E4GT .... I've been Samsunged !

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pyrostic:
Can't wait Bubby. Did you fix your computer?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ilostmypistons:
Viperboys thread seems to be picking up steam in the Delv section!!!!

Looks like a impressive team cant wait to see what they come up with.

Ready to send $$$$$$
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Viper Team in the lead

Just took a peek at viperboys progress and since I live near Vegas

(occasional gambler) my money is on viperboy winning the E4GT ICS ROM

Grand Prix.

If anyone believes otherwise, please post what you know.

Glenn :)[/B]
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ripalsanghani:
He took the initiative to start it but he is gathering devs to work together on it. Regardless, that group will probably be most successful.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Donations for the ICS ROM

Before anyone asks and based on the prior post by ripalsanghani,

I just want to make it clear to everyone that if Viperboy posts

the download for the ICS ROM and it gets approved by 2/3 vote

of the donors on this thread, then all donors will be directed to

make their pledged donation. Then it will be up to Viperboy's

sole discretion if he wants to share the donations with any person(s)

that contributed to the creation and completion of the ICS ROM.

Same will be true if another development TEAM presents us with a ROM,

meaning the team leader decides how to share the donations as he or she elects.

And one final reminder to avoid any new posts by trolls,

DONATIONS ARE NEVER MANDATORY and all donations as pledged on

this thread shall be made AFTER majority approval of a ROM.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SayWhat10:
^^^ who said donations were mandatory?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
That's the only thing I got so far lol still quite a work in progress but it's going!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dj21o:
Gotta start somewhere! Nice job man. :)

Sent from my Galaxy S II.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] leyvatron:
I agree.... It is a start.

The team is forming and collaboration is on the way.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] josh33_unc:
we said ice cream sandwich, not doughnut :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
Ha ha I love it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Progress on ICS ROM

Looks more like a Lifesaver to me, which could be Android 7.0 !

Glenn :)

P.S. Most importantly, it's more Ice Cream Sandwich than ANYBODY else has for E4GT so far!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Updated the dev thread :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Viperboy's ICS ROM is booting !

In case you haven't already seen it. Here are screenshots of the ICS ROM

progress that has been made in only 3 days (since release of ICS Source Code):

Kudos to Viperboy and the growing dev team which now includes:

PhantomHacker

Yay 4 Juggs

mijjah74

T.C.P

bubby323

barnacles10

If haven't pledged a donation and want a say in who will get the REWARD for ICS ROM,

I suggest posting your pledged donation within the next few days because

once Viperboy posts the ICS ROM download for us to test, only the current

donors will be permitted to vote.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
More ICS News

Aside from the progress being made by Viperboy & his team,

3 other bits of news today that may affect ICS progress & future:

1. First UK customer got his Galaxy Nexus with ICS

2. Per a leak, Verizon will be getting a Galaxy Nexus (no date announced)

3. Samsung announced they'll be providing an ICS update for GS2 phones (no dates announced).

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] pyrostic:
:-( I want a date...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Loki047:
$50 assuming they accept google checkout and the rom is not themed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Themes

Good point. I don't want the ICS ROM themed either.

I'll make sure Viperboy hears us and I'm sure other donors will agree.

Themes can always be added later

but they can be a pain to remove.

Your $50 pledge has been added to our total.

Thank you!

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
No theming will be done to the ICS port :) I hate themes (mostly because most are gaudy) and I think most of us feel the same way. No worries there :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Themes

Ok, we agree. No brown & orange colored dragons in our ICS theme.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe ICS has a basic "cyan" theme to it already.

I say that based on fact that I installed an ICS Theme on top of my Honeycomb ROM

and it changed the phone keypad to solid cyan numerals and I also see a cyan

overscroll and divider lines. Makes me wonder if CM had influence with the overall design of ICS.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] girthfingers:
Count me in for $10
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xak944:
I will donate, but probably not until I've been using the new software for a while and have adequately evaluated its day-to-day usefulness for my particular purposes. How much? However much I want. I also certainly don't want to be beholden to any group of people (especially the XDA community en mass) about to whom, how much, when, and for what reason I donate.

Now if there was a pool to contribute to get developers a beefy build-system (which they have already said numerous times that they need), I'd be willing to contribute right away. I posted this idea a while back, but nobody seemed to care. Thoughts?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] untouchablu:
Anything To Help With The Development Of ICS For The E4GT... Put Me Down For $20... Let's Give These Great Devs Some Monetary Incentive! My Hats Off To All That Have Pledged!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] acrown:
Bud, it's not that people don't care. The thing is that this thread is asking for donation pledges for ICS only.

I applaud the effort, but you're posting your efforts in the wrong thread that's all. Just because a particular dev is donated to, doesn't guarantee he/she would be the first to put out an ICS Rom, if any.

Edit: no pledges will be donated until the rom has been thoroughly tested and voted on. For more info read the op.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mkeena0305:
In for 20
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] xak944:
I thought the intention of this thread was to get an ICS ROM as quickly as possible. I'm afraid, however, that the reality is that this thread is more about ego-stroking and fooling people into thinking that it is organizing this great innovative project that wouldn't otherwise exist, when it is widely known that developers would be working on ICS regardless of this donation pool. The real, hard fact is that most devs do not have 8-core, 16GB RAM, SSD machines available to compile Android 4.0 on. This is an actual, REAL limiting factor with regard to ICS development, not a lack of a promise of donations. And what kills me is that it is a problem that can be solved with money!

Thanks for your reply. I'll go elsewhere now.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
You make a valid point about the computers for building! Is there such a place that would "rent" remote computer with the specs We need? I have No idea if that exists or not but renting would be best in case someone else ends up with a really good computer one day or something like that. Anyone?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graffixnyc:
But I got it to build on my dell duo netbook/tablet and that thing only has 2 gigs of ram and an atom N570 1.6GHz chip. It took forever though, I ran it overnight and I would say it took a somewhere between 18-20 hours but it still built it :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] acrown:
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gamer_Mage_D355

I'm surprised, i thought a pc with the specs the devs need would cost a lot more than fifteen hundred. I bet a lot of us have spent more than this on a pc with less tech in them. I just thought it would be more in the 3 Gs.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
For rent ?

Viperboy: Even though we live in a country where you can rent many things and even people by the hour,

don't think I've run across any places that rent supercomputers the same way.

If you focus on development, I can focus on handling donation pledges so we'll both get the rewards sooner

and then you'll have some $$$$ to invest in building a system to match what you might need

to build even better ICS ROMs and maybe good enough when Jelly Bean appears.

BTW, pledged donations now total $1772 and it keeps growing. This also means that more people

will be voting on the ROM you deliver, which aside from sending $$$$ your way, can also

serve as an endorsement for you & your team which i suspect will bring you even more $$$$.

In the meantime, for anyone who wants a taste of ice Cream Sandwich, Go to

Android.com

where you can now take an official tour of all the new ICS features. We should be able to enjoy

everything they show with the exception of NFC, since our E4GT lacks that circuitry.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Well if that's the case then we are fine. It may take way longer to build but I thought it just wouldn't build on a computer with less than the recommended specs. Someone said they crashed their computer with 12gb of memory. Must have been (l)user error :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] asteetva:
Latest GB Kernel

Just a suggestion, is it possible that reusing part of the Kernel from the Stock Rom Posted today, can help with ICS development
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] -viperboy-:
Well parts of it are important for making it work on here but not all of it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] asteetva:
oh ok

understand
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Building PCs

Now you're talking about an area where I have 27 years of expertise.

I'm typing this using a desktop PC I built almost a year ago with an i5-2500K OC'd to 4.6Ghz on air

and only 4GB of OCZ Reaper DDR3-2000 on a P67A-GD55 that never skips a beat.

Without even looking at current prices on frys or newegg, I could probably build a rig

for under $800 that would make child's play of the ICS Source Code because

you wouldn't need to spend a fortune on a pimped case or video and sound cards

that add nothing to speed and capacity.

That said, it really surprises me that "genius Android developers" are working on tablets and netbooks

so I hope that some of the reward money generated by this thread will go towards buying you guys

some more appropriate hardware.

Glenn :)

P.S. I will NEVER order anything again from newegg.com because they shipped me a defective/damaged motherboard,

authorized a return for refund, then claimed that I damaged the board, refused a refund but confirmed IN WRITING

that the board could have been damaged during shipping (i.e. shipping from the manufacturer to newegg BEFORE they

had even shipped it to me). I did a Google search of the terms "newegg defective" and 900,000 hits appeared including

numerous similar complaints about receiving defective goods from newegg.

FYI: Fry's will match newegg, amazon and other prices, plus they DO NOT hit you with return/restocking fees

so I buy 99% of my hardware from Fry's.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Biker1:
@ weltwon

In the meantime, for anyone who wants a taste of ice Cream Sandwich, Go to*Android.com*where you can now take an official tour of all the new ICS features. We should be able to enjoy*everything they show with the exception of NFC, since our E4GT lacks that circuitry.Glenn*

I clicked on the above link 2x, and MY SE4GT freaked out, for lack of a better term :-)

My phone froze, nothing would work and then it did a soft reboot, without actually

turning off/on. I thought the first time was a fluke, so I tried again, and the same thing happened. Before and after, I had no issues.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] weltwon:
Freaky browser ?

The link is to http://www.android.com/ which I just tested on my desktop, tablet and E4GT.

None of them freaked out or even wimpered. What browser do you have set as default?

Not that it should matter but on my E4GT I use Miren, Firefox on desktop PC and Maxthon on my 8.9 tab.

Glenn :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Biker1:
I clicked on the above link, and all is well.

I'll try the link in your previous post again, the one I quoted, and see what happens.

I'm using the native browser on my SE4GT.

I clicked on the link in post #642, and all is well also.

Weird regarding the 2 glitches I experienced before.