yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Logi_Ca1:
I'm wondering if there's a reason Android can't be updated like WP7, or even like desktop Windows.

The way I see it (disclaimer: I'm no high level techie so correct me if I'm wrong), the OS code is separate from the device drivers. So Windows Update only takes care of the OS code, and the device drivers is the responsibility of the various vendors (nVidia, ATI et al)

Can't this work on Android?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] TheFaixy:
+1 to that. Don't know why ppl forget that they are using phone of the year 2011. if you want something new go and buy it cause thats not what you paid for
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] wltklah:
I hope the launch of ICS will not introduce compatibility issues for apps on the market. I think the main problem of Android is the manufacture alter the code of android too much, and sometimes without following the APIs. Like some of the video chat apps, some people experiencing upside down image while some don't. This is the result of total freedom for manufactures. It's either the software devs not following or the manufacture. If I am a software dev and if I follow the API, but still encounter so much problem with so much different android phones. It's really pain in the ***. No wonder devs always work on iOS software first. It's just easier, hassle free.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rabatinova:
Every android user that doesnt know about xda or does not know how to flash a ROM will not need to update as they probably dont carewhat they could improve. The rest who care about update will do it manually.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Archer:
Correct - my point exactly.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Estoroth:
Sure thing, but at least you might be able to buy the new Windows and try to get it running on your box. I dont see that with ICS.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Archer:
OMG. Seriously? Did you even read the rest of my post or just comment on the snippet that suited your point?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Laird_Attwood:
Not so much Sense and Touchwiz customisations, it was more aimed at some of the customisations the networks sometimes require. (start up logo, some network apps etc)

There would just be basically 1 software for each model the manufactures would have to customise with their own spec i.e. touchwiz. all carriers for the country region would be there as per "generic" software.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Estoroth:
Yeah I did and I wasn't even like "OMFg i wants 4 free lolz". ;) I'm pretty sure we'll be getting ICS on the S2 but generally I think the updating of the OS should be done by Google on time, not 6 months later by your carrier or manufacturer who might not even bother with security fixes at all.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] GazaIan:
Read about two lines, saw people complaining about updates, heres my take...

You bought a phone with a custom framework on. Carrier not only has to incorporate their framework into the update, but they have to make sure that the framework doesn't bork any apps (with Sense, it usually does with some, like when the new Music app was first leaked; Sense devices wouldn't play nice). Additionally, they have to optimize the OS + the framework to be able to run on the device without making the phone act low end overnight. Thirdly, there has to be enough users of the phone to give a damn. It's almost inevitable.

The Solution? Get a Nexus device, plain and simple. The Nexus One was running 2.1 (or was it 2.2) and now it's on Gingerbread, and it just might get ICS. The Nexus S is getting ICS this year. Google updates immediately. On top of that, if a device is ever cut off, there's usually a ROM for it.

Moral of the story: If you want updates, go for a Nexus, and have no worries.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] umd:
According to my knowledge there is no way to have same OS with different UI at the same time. If Microsoft would have let the manufacturers to use different UIs, it wouldn't be any different. In this point of view Android have a big advantage but this advantage brings this updating issue with it. You can't blame anyone for this. Like some people said, you have different choice though. If you want Android and fast updates, buy a Nexus phone. It's that simple.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] andyln3:
I wish that manufacturers like HTC and Motorola would start looking at the mobile device as the new computer. We should have the option of what we want on the phone. As for immediate updates, simply offering the option to upgrade to vanilla Android or waiting for a skinned version would be nice. Just give us the option. That would alleviate a lot of these 'too slow to upgrade' problems.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] alunral:
See, the whole problem with this article is that it's forgetting a simple, key problem that Google, and Android has: custom, network carrier-made ROMs with special, preinstalled applications. And those carriers aren't going to give those up anytime soon.

And then there is the fact that the amount of different phones for iOS and Android is vastly and drastically different. There are a total of maybe 8 iPhones, only half of which are still supported. The iPhone 1, 2, and 3 are not getting iOS 5, are they? But the phones are still mostly the same. Android is different. there is over 100 different phones that use it, and the ROMs between them are not compatible. And very few are Googlemade, unlike iPhones. Those that are usually see any updates. The carriers arent really snappy about updates because its unnessesary. Its like going from XP to 7, both are working OSs, an update isnt totally nessesary.

Plus, not all phones have the same hardware capabilities. Some phones might not be able to handle ICS. Its just a fact that people need to get over.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ovedby:
Sorry to break your word but you wrong! most (!) of the iphone owners don't even know what the iphone can do (like 3d games etc.) and they buy the iphone 'cuz anybody have one, like my sister.

most of them know about the iphone 4s just because he published on the news!

when my sister got the massege for an update she call me in histery "what I'm suposed to do:confused:" so I guess she didn't heared about iOS 5 :(

for the artical, i think that after the official release of ICS we will see lot of roms that leaked to another devices that didn't get official release of ICS.

or teams like CM7 and MIUI who bring you AOSP roms for any device under sopport and the list growning every day. so i think the writer of the article didn't know XDA :D:D
[HTC Amaze 4G] Mrperf3ct:
I'm just gonna place this right here....

http://briefmobile.com/download-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-system-dump
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
How about you post more about it ?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Mrperf3ct:
It's a system dump of Ice Cream sandwich that means it came from the galaxy nexus. So how about you use ya brain.. your a dev right... Download and dig through...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
I already have the dump , you should post what it has inside of it instead of 1 line & a external link & it's not deodexed so it'll be useless .
[HTC Amaze 4G] Mrperf3ct:
That why you deodex it... Smh and u sopose to be a developer
[HTC Amaze 4G] xboarder56:
ill detox it give me a little bit though
[HTC Amaze 4G] Willieumm:
Key word being "suppose".
[HTC Amaze 4G] Mrperf3ct:
Oh well that's how swype spelled it..
[HTC Amaze 4G] gravis86:
He wasn't picking at your spelling, he was picking at the wannabe dev. Gotta love someone who claims to be a dev and can't even deox on his own.

He's a themer, and can't theme unless it deodexed.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Reviewers:
Who said i can't deox ? I said that the rom's isn't deodexed the apps . Why would you tell someone to check out file's if there not even deodexed , porting would be a b**** .
[HTC Amaze 4G] Willieumm:
Thank you for explaining that to him.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Mrperf3ct:
Lol wow... I knew he seemed to iffy to be a developer...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Mrperf3ct:
Because I developer wouldn't care if its odexed or not he'd deodex it his self and be happy someone posted a leak such as this for him to work with...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
I think that's quite enough now.
[HTC Amaze 4G] bizal05:
Are we going to see a 4.0 Rom? Any developers working on it??
[HTC Amaze 4G] sportsinger75:
I'm sure we'll see one at some point, but it will take time. Be patient.
[HTC Amaze 4G] pilotguy415:
Xboarder! Work your magic :-P
[HTC Amaze 4G] bige914:
system 4.0 dump

Cant wait to pick this thing apart i might use for theming. That is if anyone would want a custom rom with 2.3.4 with the look of 4.0.
[HTC Amaze 4G] macheteZen:
Oh yes please, I know we are to get the real thing but any taste of ICS could satisfy me for a while.

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G
[HTC Amaze 4G] bizal05:
I concur
[HTC Amaze 4G] zenstitution:
Well either way thanks for the dump. Can't wait til I have time to play around with it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renna1992:
Just a quick question guys.

1. the official ota updates from google only work with the stock rom right? does it matter if the phone is rooted or not? so if the phone is rooted, do the ota updates work?

2. if i want to get back from a rooted rom/cm7 rom/miui rum/... to a complete stock rom (with stock recovery, etc.) so total stock i just flash the official 2.3.6 version from google via recovery and everything is normal, right? so if i am back to the stock, the ota updates should work?

thanks guys
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renna1992:
nobody? :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saranyan:
Yes the OTA updates would work for a complete stock ROM even if you have rooted it, After the update you would have stock recovery and would lose root.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mbrito41712:
Wht if ur on stock rom but have matrix kernel will it work then?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saranyan:
I think you need to be fully stock, ROM + Kernel. I might be wrong though.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gigii:
Now i m using the Galaxy R GT-i9103, but i want get a better play-back function. but you know the Tegra2 was so bad on this...

so i'd like to get the Atrix2, here i have 2 questions so can someone answer me?

1. CPU - TI 4440 or TI 4430?

Moto just saying the cpu will be 1G dual-core, and some news saying it working with the TI 4440. but i could not get any certain info.

2. Display - RGB or Pentile ? how about the color and brightness?

i really don't like any Pentile pixel display and some gaudy display. so i never would have a phone with a Super Amoled or SAP display...

thanks.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rodger-sp:
The display in NOT a pentile pixel display ant it looks awsome.

The brightness is good.

I think it is the ti4430 not 100% on that.

It does 1080p at 29 fps and 720p at 29 rps.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gigii:
Thanks. now i'm sure i want the Atrix2. but if it with TI 4440 i will feel more excited.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malickie:
There is some debate whether it is the TI 4430 or the 4440. Some websites have it as Having the TI 4440 others TI 4430 and still other Tegra 2. But the general Knowledge is it Does have a TI just not 100% certain which one. So until we get Root we are semi sorta floating in the air with assumptions unless someone has taken the phone apart to check the exact CPU on the board provided the Chip has the model number on it.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] facetubespam:
It is TI OMAP 4430

http://developer.motorola.com/products/atrix-2-mb865/
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malickie:
Ahh didn't realize Motorola had put the specs out there like that yet. Good to know Ty. LoL Motorola needs to Update their Own Information. Says Android Version 2.3.4 on their website there but I am looking at the information straight from my phone and it is running 2.3.5
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gigii:
Exactly. i do not trust the developer.moto...let's see what engadget say.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cheetablaze:
I'm really looking forward to getting some root love. This phones kicks ass compared to others. Would be nice to get a separate forum channel
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drmouse81:
Hi all

I hope you can help me with this. I have just bought an Atrix and need a little advice.

This is now my third Moto Android phone. I had a Dext (Cliq), and currently have a Defy. After a few ROMs I settled on MIUI, which I love. Unfortunately I notice this is not yet available for the Atrix, so I will need to select another ROM to use.

I would go straight for CM7, as this is my second choice ROM anyway, but it doesn't support the fingerprint scanner. I don't know if I will actually use this, but it's a new toy I don't want to loose :)

Can anyone suggest a ROM which would suit me? I don't want Blur (used to love it but I've found phones run so much better without), but I would like to have the fingerprint scanner working, and preferably the Webtop (I'm going to look at getting a lapdock when I can afford it).

Thanks in advance

Mouse
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I like Alien4 until CM7 gets fingerprint support.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drmouse81:
Looks good, although I would prefer no blur.

Is it possible to de-blur? Like I said, I have found in the past it just slows everything down and eats battery, and I have found better replacements for everything it does.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acaseyb:
Alien is partially de-blurred.

Fingerprint and webtop are blue-based. So until cm7 gets fp, you have to choose between not having blur and having fp/webtop
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tayshun12:
I love the Aura rom! or if you want a little more oomph there is darkside (based on aura) Aura has amazing battery life and I wasn't really into alien for some reason. I would try them both, but I want to fond of the alien :/
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
You have the option of skipping the Blur setup and then freezing Blur, thats what I did. I have no Blur, but I have fingerprint scanner, no need to choose between them.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pyromechanic:
I'm using CHERRYpi until CM7 gets the kinks worked out with the FP reader and webtop. I switched over to the Motorola ATRIX from a HTC KAISER and wasn't to taken by motoBLUR myself and can't find a faster or easier way to unlock my phone than the built in fingerprint reader (have corporate sync and phone always wants to lock itself). Not exactly sure how CHERRYpi does it versus CHERRYblur, but I only saw the original home page with 7 screens once shortly after flashing the ROM, and logging in/loading my accounts and contacts. Using the red CHERRYpi crust and have been very happy with it. Guess Blur is frozen in the background somehow to allow use of all features. Haven't tried webtop yet as I haven't got a multimedia docking station to hook my phone up to my big screen projector:eek:

Maybe worth a try for you, I've been fairly pleased with battery life, too

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1189497&highlight=CHERRY
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] firey21:
I'm running Aura which comes in 3 flavors (De-Blurred, Blurred, and Accounts) De-Blurred is stock android with a tonne of tweaks and such. Accounts is still de-blurred but supports the Blur Accounts (it's what I use), and then Blurred is a fully blurred rom.

There is also Homebase, the newer of which are all de-blurred.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drmouse81:
Looks like there's a lot of choice! Think I'm just going to have to pick a couple to try out, and see what I like. With a bit of luck I won't be waiting too long for CM, there are vids of the FP scanner working. MIUI shouldn't be too long after that.

Thanks for all your suggestions.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeNiO426:
Personally, I think Aura and The DarkSide are the 2 best ROM's for the Atrix. DS is based off of Aura, but it's a themed ROM, which is pretty cool, IMO. Aura has 3 separate versions: Blurred, Accounts, and De-Blurred. "Blurred" has all of the Blur stuff still in it, just a stripped down version; "Accounts" has the Blur removed, but still allows you to access all of the stuff that's involved with "accounts;" and "De-Blurred" is just that, all the Blur/bloatware removed.

I currently am using DS 2.5.1, but I find myself constantly switching between the two as they are both that good. If you want most of the original features, I would go with either of those two. CM7 has a lot of issues with features not working. Also, the developers for CM7 don't really update it much, supposedly.

I tried the Alien ROM, but it just wasn't as good as DS or Aura. Aura seems to get some of the best battery life out of all the ROM's I've tried (Aura, DarkSide, Alien, and Homebase). DS is within a close 2nd, I would say. Hopefully that helps somewhat.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] stephen.brader:
I have tried puffin browser which seems to be the best for being compatible with flash sites but ots very laggy and chessboarding happens a lot so i would like a working flash player for htc wildfire please as all the time before I was on android I was dreaming off all the great things on android such as flash player but now I have found my phone is not good enough for it. Flash runs on my phone when I have installed it but im 95% sure its just the flash lite. I wanna be able to play farmville, ea superstars, bbc iplayer and more games and vid sites
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Scratch0805:
Good luck mate, we all share the same dream but everyday our phones get older and are less likely to ever have full flash, there Is no fully working flash for wildfire and trust me I have looked!!
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] 3xeno:
Wake up and smell the coffee mate. You get what you pay for.

2 options for Flash:

1) Puffin - As you already have attempted

2) Flash Player for ARMv6 - Works very patchily. But still, since it is so vital for you, you might as well give it a go. Don't expect all your dreams to be fulfilled though.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1155538
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Paul1989:
stephen i have already told you. i have released my FULLY WORKING FLASH PLAYER FOR SONY X8 ARM6 take a look

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1310222

and i have told you im already working on flash for our wildfires. so just give me time and ill have you your fully functional flash okay please stop posting new threrads when ive already answerd you about this
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] stephen.brader:
Sorry, i posted this as there may may be other developers who have made it already
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] stephen.brader:
I havnt got custom rom so i cant run the armv6 flash. I have tried so many versions but none work and the flash which does seem to be working is using flash lite. I hope paul can get it working as long as it works im not too bothered about lag as i wont use it for flash video if its so laggy, i will just use it for games. Puffin plays ea superstars facebook game ok, only prob is the page zooming abd scrolling lags and it has chessboard so makes it harder to play the game becasue of tgese anoying things. Paul, you are the best developer ive ever seen your trying to make the almost impossible on wildfire possible thanks, i hope for it to be released before the end of 2011. Cloud browse iphone briwser is coming to android and should be relased before end of 2011 only prob with cloud browse is u have 2 pay for unlimited usage but from youtube vids I have seen of it on iphone, the flash runs better than puffin not much better but its still better and looks less laggy for page scrolling and zooming. So if u release it at the around the same time then i could test both and see which 1 runs best, there is no dought that cloud btowse will load up the games/videos faster as cloud browsrs are way faster and its not running the flash on the phone, its running it in the cloud but i will expect the lag to be the same. We will have to wait and see.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] cwk_and:
I had installed the flash player that compatible to arm6,

but facebook game seen not working on wildfire:mad:
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] stephen.brader:
I have installed lots of armv6 flash but none of them actually work as it just uses the flash lite. I can get farmville to load 100% although it takes a while but an error occurs so i cant play it on built in browser. On browsers like dolphin, farmville loading freezes at around 75%. I hope paul1989 can make flash work. I can installed flash but thats it nothing else uts just wasting space on my phone as ot doesnt work. If there was a way to delete flash lite then it may be easier to see if the flash works or not but for me none released so far work so i hope paul can get it running on all the websites it should do i wont be too bothered about lag as long as its not as laggy as puffin browser is with flash it makes youtube etc extremely laggy. The only game i consider playable on puffin is fifa superstars facebook game although it requires lots of zooming in and out to get the buttons of the game pressed but with native flash, there is fullscreen mode so i could use the fullscreen by double tapping/holding down to make fifa superstars more playable. Farmville on puffin browser is kind of playable but it gets annoying when it thinks i have pressed a different button and it only seems to load up the game early in the morning/ late at night. You are one of the best developers at xda paul and if you get flash working i will not be able to thank you enough. If you got it working with 100% no lag, i would pay for it but i dont think that would be possible.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] 3xeno:
Why one earth bring the word "pay for it" if you don't intend to in any case? Way to motivate someone. Just imagine yourself for a moment in Paul's shoes, and read that statement. It's DAMNING.

Your posts do nothing except annoy the living hell out of me, so please excuse me, while I update my blocked list. BRB.

Dear God, this 10x worse than melvinchng
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] cwk_and:
erm....i don't know what is going wrong...

But its seem a war had happened,

Hope these war can be end by peaceful way
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Alex_GP:
My head exploded.
[Wildfire Themes and Apps] Scratch0805:
We have a block list?? Show me show me.......

I'm on mobile most of the time.
[General Questions and Answers] TheOneCEO:
Does anyone no how I can get my HDMI output to work with this ROM?

SNS Gingerbread v1.9

It has worked before but today and yesterday it just stopped...

Thank you for any help.
[Windows Phone 7 General] ammarmalik:
Link

Needless to say, I expect something special. This has been a long time coming
[Windows Phone 7 General] nanoware:
ill be too busy playing battlefield3
[Windows Phone 7 General] ammarmalik:
blasphemy!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kabillan:
my phone details...

gingerbread-2.3.3

BASEBAND VERSION:I9000DDJV5

KERNAL VERSION:2.6.35.7-I9000DDJV9-CL312456 ROOT@SE-S605#2

BUILD NUMBER:GINGERBREAD.DDJV9

and these code does not works for me.

*#*#197328640#*#* service mode

*#197238640# service mode

any idea plzzzz......

and will voodoo fix the call quality and stops the buzz sound in background.........?????
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albatros_1994:
voodoo sound only improve the sound quality with the headphone.

an upgrade to 2.3.5?it may fix your problem
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JayBeee:
Hey, I just Rooted my DHD with AAHK, with the result of having a rooted phone, but with a damaged SD-card. Can I just format the SD-card without any issues, or do I have to run the Setup all over again if I do?

JayBeee
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] obkook:
Same thing for me

Exact same thing happened to me - what did you do to resolve it? Just reformat?