yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus 3D] greenbat:
This thread is for benchmarks with the lg optimus3d 3d benchmarks only!

Here are the first benchmarks with acura rom 2.0:

Nenamark1

normal 2d: 56.9 fps

3d game convertor 7.3 fps

Electopia

normal 2d: 25.68 fps

3d game convertor: 14.78 fps

Kwaak3 (=Quake3 android port) benchmarked with enabled sound, lightmaps and show framerate

normal 2d: 56.8 fps

3d game convertor 23.5 fps (it looks fantastic!!!!)

Kwaak3 install instructions:

Download the kwaak3_test_v11f.apk from the download section and install it on your phone from here:

http://code.google.com/p/kwaak3/downloads/list

Download quake 3 demo data (q3droid-data.zip) from here:

http://www.multiupload.com/H9E6F7WUXR

Unpack q3droid-data.zip and copy the directory quake3 to the root of your internal sdcard

Start kwaak3 :)
[LG Optimus 3D] yesse87:
Flashed but default ROM, V10K.

nenamark1

2D: 49.4fps

3D converter: 6fps

Now with Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread

2D: 57.3fps

3D converter: 8.9fps
[LG Optimus 3D] MAX6500:
Thiai3O3D rom 1.5.2

Nenamark1

2D 57.9 fps

3D 8.7 fps
[LG Optimus 3D] tropbel:
ThiaiZ3O3D 1.5.1

nenamark 1

2d 54.6

3d 6.2
[LG Optimus 3D] PROTOCHIP:
Dear Friends,

ThiaiZ v1.5.2

Nenamark1

2d:57.9 fps

3d: 8.3 fps

Kind Regards
[LG Optimus 3D] greenbat:
benchmarks with acura rom 2.2:

Nenamark1

normal 2d: 57.7 fps

3d game convertor: 8.5 fps

Electopia

normal 2d: 25.54 fps

3d game convertor: 14.83 fps

Kwaak3 (=Quake3 android port) benchmarked with enabled sound, lightmaps and show framerate

normal 2d: 55.9 fps

3d game convertor: 23.0 fps
[LG Optimus 3D] greenbat:
benchmarks with ICS stock rom

Nenamark1

normal 2d: 55.4 fps

3d game convertor: 6.0 fps

Electopia

normal 2d: 28.17 fps

3d game convertor: 26.48 fps

Epic Citadel

normal 2d: 47.2 fps

3d game convertor: 14.8 fps
[General Topics] Gaugerer:
Clove Technology have confirmed that the Galaxy Note will arrive in the UK on the 1st November instead of 17 November and the price has been reduced from £559 + vat to £495+vat.
[General Topics] AllGamer:
+1

wow! that is good news indeed

too bad it is not AWS 1700/2100 compatible :(

i really like that "phone" tablet :D
[General Topics] russ18uk:
£600. I wouldn't pay that but I can see the appeal of such a device.

May as well release a Galaxy PhoneTab 7" and get a man-bag :o
[General Topics] RMXO:
holy frak! Expansys-USA has the Note for 934.99!

Man, I'm not sure if I want to spend almost a 1k for a phone. Though, I rem I said the same thing when I bought the SGS2 when it first came out at $700 shipped. Still 1K is a lot of clams, I might have to wait until AT&T's version.

I figured as much but I guess I was just hoping it would be around 700-800.

http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5-3-android-tablet-221966/
[General Topics] VTEChump:
So I should be able to order one of these up from Clove/Expansys, and plug and play on AT&T here in the states, correct? Anything else that is required to get this phone working Nov. 1st in the US?
[General Topics] mdalacu:
Why on Samsung and Clove site there is no word about gyroscope, OTG, MHL , Cpu type?

I know for sure that it will not have NFC chip.

I hope that it will not be an downgrade in funcitonality over SGS2 because i really whant to preorder it.

EDIT: i saw a nice youtube video and just found that it has OTG ans MHL.

Still not sure about gyroscope.
[General Topics] Gaugerer:
This is a good site for comparing devices:

http://www.differencebetween.com/di...ung-galaxy-note-and-vs-galaxy-s2-galaxy-s-ii/
[General Topics] kersh:
btw don't fall in the clove cheap and unethical tactics

Samsung announced earlier that the price will be 550€/pounds, but clove is greedy and want to earn more money, so they use their reputation to make a ultra high price that they know that are not real, then few days later magically the price drop but not at the level of other retailers, more than 30 pounds extra. Then the consumer see the high price compared to the samsung announced and other retailers as cheap and buy it.

seriously, clove go fck yourself, hope you don't sell anything.
[General Topics] Gaugerer:
Can you point to the site showing the official Samsung Galaxy Note price and the price of other retailers selling cheaper than the official price and Clove for that would be helpful?
[General Topics] russ18uk:
Mobile City Online: Our Price:$699.99

Clove.co.uk: £495.00/$789.336

Doesn't take into account shipping/local taxes.
[General Topics] undercover:
Does anyone realise that note has pressure sensitive screen, not capacitive one? Unless they have improved A LOT over the last few years its a big no no for me.
[General Topics] kersh:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5504/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked-

http://www.kingofgadgets.co.uk/prod...k-sim-free-unlocked-android-mobile-phone.html

http://www.expansys.com/samsung-galaxy-note-16gb-wifi-221962/

http://digitec.ch/ -> 530 gbp

Price announcement: http://www.bestofmicro.com/actualite/29335-Samsung-interview-Berhelet.html

En terme de prix il se positionnera sur quelle gamme ?

Il sera disponible à 549 euros sans subvention, les opérateurs devraient le vendre avec un abonnement autour de 199 euros. Ce sera notre produit phare de fin d’année.

You are wrong. The screen is capacitive and the stylus is capacitive with pressure sensitive too.

We have everything on this phone.
[Xperia Play General] Christian6809:
I put r800a 2.3.3 US Generic .ftf on my Xperia Play using FlashTool, then I put CM7 on it. Its working beautifully.

If I want to put another firmware on my phone after the fact, can I just use FlashTool to flash over the firmware that is currently on it? How are people doing it?

Now when I look at my firmware version on the phone and it says 2.3.7 . Is that because CM7 already updated the firmware for me? Is it just updating whatever firmware is on it at the moment or does it always say 2.3.7?

If I do put on a newer version firmware now, won’t I lose my root access and wouldn’t I have to root it again?

Please help

Thanks

Christian6809
[Xperia Play General] Christian6809:
anyone?
[Xperia Play General] Logseman:
CM7 is based on the version 2.3.7 of Android, more precisely of the Android Open Source Project.

if you use Flashtool you will be replacing CM7 with Sony Ericsson's firmware. You will lose root.
[Xperia Play General] Christian6809:
Ok makes sense.. thanks
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mos187:
Just got my unlocked Atrix less than a week ago and already the external speaker failed on me, everything was working fine and suddenly while playing a video using (mx player) the rear external speaker stopped working, while earpiece speaker and 3.5" audio jack are working fine, here's what i did to check:

- Checked under sound settings/audio effects and found phone speaker connected but still nothing

- Booted into safe mode with no success.

- Did a hard reset a couple of times but still nothing.

Phone is on stock At&t 2.3.4 (4.5.91 Firmware) without any mods, and hasn't been dropped or anything, very strange and frustrating as ive been wanting this phone so bad and this happens in less than 5 days :(

don't know if its s/w or h/w related if either what is your opinions on fixing my problem.

one more thing cant return it for maintenance as im not in the U.S. (had my brother sent it to me) and the process of sending it back to him is not so easy.

so please help me out..

Thank you all.....
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mos187:
Any help please, is there a s/w fix i can try or speaker replacement is my only solution??

if the second, please recommend me an online repair/parts supplier i can check as i cant find any..

Thanks..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mettleh3d:
Thanks to the Devs for the awesomely easy root process. The Tmo SGS2 is my first Android phone and this was my very first root experience. After reading the HOW TO thread, the screen shots below are what I've uninstalled/frozen thanks to Ti Backup Pro. What are you guys uninstalling and what kind of performance gains/battery boosts if any do you think you're seeing?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Sammydr10:
I uninstalled accounts & sync by mistake!! Lol can anyone upload that apk for me please?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] zoth:
Here you go buddy...

BTW: Droid Explorer works great after root. FYI
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] grabiarz:
If you need any uninstalled apps back they should be in the system dump thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1300682
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mettleh3d:
Thanks. For the record I don't notice any performance differences, maybe battery life today will investigate.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] clone217:
I lost my notifcation bar by acident can any body upload it?

I got uninstall happy after root
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] fordstang99:
What I do is make a backup in cwm....then reboot and start messing with stuff...just my 2 cents
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] knickfan5745:
Can anybody make a list of the apps to delete? The actual file names, not the program names. (For use with Root Explorer).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] babymatteo:
+1 to this.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] InGeNeTiCs:
Anybody know what the filename of 'proapps' is? I wanna get rid of that crap.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] darkness122:
this x2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tackleberry:
How does this get installed? I can't install it via normal apk method
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] steb0ne:
/system/app/Android_Pro.apk
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] timekillerj:
Anyone know what app handles the 611 redirection ? Thought it would be 411 & more, but I got rid of that and 611 still redirects.

In case anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about, try calling 611 (customer service) - the phone actually drops to another app that turns on the speaker and talks to you there - it's OBNOXIOUS.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] zoth:
No, copy it in the \system\app folder
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Kid Poker:
I can try to give you a list of Apps from Titanium Backup, I removed a hell lot of apps, backing up my current configuration now so I have a backup of a bloatfree rom.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] tackleberry:
I did.. no dice.?

Edit. You need the odex file. I copied it from my nandroid backup
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] buzzi321:
Yes, someone please post the list of actual file names.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mbernusg:
Anyone know what kobo is??

Sent from my SGH-T989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] KaneHusky:
According to Google, it's another eBooks app.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mbernusg:
Thanks lol

Sent from my SGH-T989
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gamefreakgcb:
Backing up with CWM now. Lets see how much crap I can get away with removing.

You guys should try to freeze the apps so you can easily defrost them if there is a screw-up. That only works if you have Ti Backup Pro.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] imnothimm:
Learned that the hard way first time around. I couldn't get anything to restore after I uninstalled.

Restored my Nandroid and froze all the apps I can't stand
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ronivy:
Can anyone tell me how to remove apps with Tit pro? I tried and it shuts down and goes into a soft brick screen with the triangle. That's not a big problem I just power up and it starts correctly but the apps are still there.

I'm rooted.

Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ronin4740:
Select the app and freeze it rather than uninstall it. That way if for some reason (like an update not applying because it checks for and doesn't see a particular app) you want to restore them you can easily do so.

I've not tried uninstalling with Titanium Pro on the SGS II but it was never an issue on the Vibrant... Maybe the program needs an update to perform uninstalls on the SGS II properly...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] movieaddict:
U don't want to delete nfc that's for that when it becomes possible, nfc .technology. Microbes is a live wallpaper. I wouldn't touch Backup. AP mobile is part of ur news widget with the weather u saw it once u got ur phone. Not sure what days is??
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] camf3xu:
oops (nfc lol) well, soon enough their will b more customs roms, if i need it real soon, i will just flash one of the stock roms over.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] movieaddict:
in my opinion i would just freeze them
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ItsDace:
Use Titanium Backup so you don't have to search for the apk names and you can freeze apps if you are unsure deleting them.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Oskiee:
Interesting, i didnt know i could do that. thank you gentlemen.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] safeplayer22:
But if you want to delete, its' in:

/system/app
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bsmith1051:
Has anyone made a list of recommended and/or Safe To Uninstall apps? (I understand, that freezing is safer but it also requires the paid-for version of Titanium Backup, no?)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] justice26:
Trust get the paid version and just freeze it. Safer in the long run.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] noodles2224:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html

Question, I can remove flash, qik, my account, YouTube from system and then download them from market and move them to my sdcard with titanium right?

DMolina ツ
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] AllGamer:
be our guest :D

no seriously you can start one up, and every one can pitch in

I've been trying to do that, but i've been waaaaay too busy to sit down and go through every single app in the stock ROM

not to mention, i'll have to re-flash back the Stock ROM to even know what was in there, LOL :p
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] noodles2224:
I just posted the list

DMolina ツ
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bsmith1051:
Thanks! I don't see the T-Mobile 'Backup' or 'My Account' apps? Also, is there an FM Radio app on the SG2?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] noodles2224:
Well it gives you an example of what you can delete. I searched and someone posted that link from Android forums. And my account and backup is kinda obvious

DMolina ツ
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] lilsaiful:
Please do.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] noodles2224:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html

DMolina ツ
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] nycplayboy78:
Thanks Noodles =D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] MMakoto:
first time android user and and rooter here with questions:

does it make any difference if i've backed up with titanium backup pro or cwm? i've done both, but not sure if it's necessary though. and if i wanna restore to stock for the wifi calling feature or ICS, would i need to do unroot or do anything?

btw, what is a "nandroid" backup?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] minotauri:
Titanium backup backs up apps and your app settings/saves/etc.

Clockwork recovery does a nandroid backup which backs up your entire phone including your data(apps), system files, kernel, cache, etc. This is done in recovery mode.

Also, you dont need Titanium backup to "freeze" apps. There's other apps out there, or you can use shell command lines -- type pm -list to get a list and then pm disable [pkg name] to freeze and pm enable [pkg name] to unfreeze. you can type pm itself to get a full list.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] petoria_:
thanks for the spreadsheet..helped a lot
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] emmdub:
First off, thanks for that spreadsheet, very helpful...

As for freezing/uninstalling, etc... I've been using ROM Toolbox very successfully. Lots of powerful ROM management features, but it's also got a great app manager... let's you freeze/unfreeze, force uninstall, backup, convert system to user apps, batch processing etc...

If you're into modding your phone, you need to take a look at this app...

m.

ps. I'm not affiliated /w the app, just sharing a useful tool that I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned here...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jordanishere:
Does anyone know which apk is responsible for “My Device” and if its safe to delete? EDIT: i think its part of my acct .

Also, here is what I have Frozen - can anyone tell me if these are ok to delete? I dont seem to be having any issues but have yet to find an actual list of what is ok/not ok to remove... The list of applications posted earlier doesnt contain some of the stuff that came on my phone. Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] dn3g3l:
under battery use in the settings, it shows mediaserver. anyone what that is or how to even delete it?

under running services, can someone explain what exactly these apps do and if i can delete?

factory test

device management

gba service

tethering manager

secphone

wifi sharing manager
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] djgromit:
Not sure on mediaserver...device management is what checks for OTA updates. You can freeze it to keep the device from checking. I would guess that tethering manager is for USB tethering and wifi sharing manager is for wifi tethering, but I'm not 100% sure...if you don't tether, freeze them and see what you get.

I have no idea on the others...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] hinghing1113:
thanks for the list

by the way,

Wi-Fi	com.sec.android.app.FileTransferClient	FTC.apk

it can remove, if you using other wifi file transfer
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Anthonomy:
Very useful list. Thanks for the spreadsheet! :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Guatiao:
Thanks for the list, pretty much complete!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] geckobear:
Mediaserver is what your music/video apps will use to play any media on your phone or sd card. I wouldn't get rid of it unless you don't have anything on your sd card to play. If it's taking up a lot of battery you may want to check if one of your music or video apps is constantly active in the background.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bchon:
Thank you so much!!! Just what I was looking for.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jets76:
Thanks for this list. Bloat bee gonzo!!!!!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] FastJoe78:
Hey guys...just a heads up but WIFI Calling WILL BREAK if you freeze or delete IMS Service 1.0...you can freeze the IM app but not the IMS service 1.0 directly below it in titanium back up...hope this helps some of you with the REG99 error
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Dougshell:
I don't mean to piss in the OPs proverbial cheerios, but if this thread is suppose to be a reference thread, then shouldn't the OP be maintained a bit better.

Maybe the OP could be updated with comprehensive lists of the applications shown in the spreadsheet, maybe even a subsection for ICS services and applications that can be deleted and frozen as well.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Chochiwpg:
I used the above list to remove all the bloat I did not want or need, thanks so much.

There's an app I had by default that isn't on the list. Media Hub. Can that be removed? I assume it can, but since it wasn't on the list I have just left it alone. thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] theshed:
anyone know what I have to delete to get rid of kies air from my menu,

already deleted kiesair is there something i'm missing?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] cardcrow70:
apk list

thanks list was perfect.... cardcrow70:D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Bluntified:
Anyone try deleting Google + or anything new from the ICS stock update? What about carrier apps like app stores etc?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] djtease37:
you dont need google + (unless you want it) and it shouldnt effect anything if you remove it. i remove almost every carrier app on my phones once i root cuz most are just bloatware and unneccesary. just remember to always keep a backup just in case you remove something and the phone starts acting up, that way you can restore and be alright again within minutes.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] TubeSteak:
Thanks, very helpful.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] drLouie:
You can also Freeze apps and Uninstall apps with MyBackup Pro.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] cqzusa@gmail.com:
I used ROM ToolBox

the tool is great for a lot features that a new rooter would want to go through. The app manager will let you know what app should not be removed. then yo can freeze them
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] jacodaburr:
Re: 611 redirection

611 redirecting to the customer service app is something I have only seen with the Galaxy S t959, I have never seen it on the sgsii t989 nor have I seen it on any custom rom...have you check for a customer service app, I honestly think it was something that was a part of the my account but I am not for certain as I have not seen it since my S1.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] cqzusa@gmail.com:
Used CM 10. The apps listed are minimum and not mobile specific. I have no problem to dial 611 or 411 to reach the other end. It may not be t mobile specific. The service number should be the same and from your SIM card.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bashworth:
great list, thank you
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] trpnblies7:
Very helpful, thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] IamaznX:
Helped me a lot, thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Negrin82:
Thanks....

Good info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gustavo santelli:
Many thanks for the list
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DBDMagic:
Go download a app called sytemcleanup it tells u every app on every 4.1.2, 4.2.2,AOKP,and 10.1 it tells u which apps are safe to remove after u run it its the best app yet you don't have to go to websites to see which apps u cab remove it tells u of the installed apps u have which can safely be removed

sent from WMD SAMSUNG GALAXY S2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DBDMagic:
If u find the app system cleanup when you install and run it it tells u which system apps are safe to remove on your rom

sent from WMD SAMSUNG GALAXY S2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DBDMagic:
There is an app called System cleanup that tells u what apps system or user that are safe to remove when its loaded it also tells u what app u can replace other apps up that can be substituted such as calendar AnD Google calendar or android keyboard and kii keyboard TRY IT ITS AWESOME

sent from WMD SAMSUNG GALAXY S2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] junus:
Awesome ty
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] fooeynet:
You, sir, are quite adept at the run-on sentence.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] vtech7634:
Remove bloatware

Try a bloatware removal app from the appstore
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] whatsad:
so is it safe to say that all the ****ty tmobile apps are safe to remove?

411 & More

Asphalt

Bonus Apps

Music Hub

Slacker Radio

Pro Apps

MobileLife Contacts

Media Hub

T-mobile TV

none of them are on the spreadsheet in this thread and it'd be nice to know for certain it wont do any damage to remove them.

also there are some on there like Factory Test which says is fine to remove but what the heck is Factory Test? the description just says "Factory Test" which isnt very helpful.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] 13~BigBear~13:
You're good to erase all of them on your list:thumbup:

Sent from my T989 doing Jedi Mind Tricks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] rocknrollkrishna:
okay

everything listed above can be removed safely! talkback can be removed too !
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vishytk:
I just rooted my desire using unrevoked3. Now i want to know if i need to do S-Off using Alpharev or does unrevoked method enables S-Off ?

I am bit confused and need some expert advice on this.

Thanks,

Vishy