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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BeenAndroidized:
Nope! He knows I got the SGSII. But may be he thought that he can get me to buy another one. LOL!

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Heavy grain of salt I would say. LOL! Yea! That is badd... If I had a choice, I would already changed from AT&T to other vendor. 4G hurh, I think my wifi at home is faster than that. :rolleyes:

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That was correct. He happens to stand there when I walk in with my wife to check out what they have.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Globalrebel:
Count me in on this as well if anyone can point to this build or a newer build! I just want to try it out to see the differences.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
gtg465x built that from source a long time ago.

I'm 90% certain cell data was also broken - e.g. no SMS, no email.

Not even sure if wifi worked.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Globalrebel:
From the video it looks like Wifi worked at least since he was able to bring up web pages, but I don't know about sms and data tho. :( I need to just let this go and just be happy when it arrives. LOL
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thephoneguyusa:
+1

Sent from my dual core mOnStEr
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] PatriotXT92:
You can just try flashing the CM9 release in the i9100 original development forum. It works on our phone enough that you can enjoy the ICS experience minus phone calls and possible sms and a few other things. I've tried it with some of the earlier builds that they had just to play around with ICS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kevincyt:
we stillwaiting for ics
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
We don't care. ***** at Samsung or AT&T if you want it, because nothing is going to happen until I9100 kernel source drops for ICS. Seriously, you created an account to post this without reading anything in the thread?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] eep2378:
Apparently so...........:confused::confused::eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] midnightslide:
Well, looks like the Atrix 4G now has an ICS rom. Glad to see that the Samsung dev community is going strong. This is ridiculous...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Captpt:
Here's a little teaser of ICS on i777, love how ICS makes our GS2s even faster & better :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL4o59NsvPY&feature=player_embedded#!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
Not full ics only has some framework merged.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] NJGSII:
This. Far from a full fledged version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Boobie Watcher:
How is it ridiculous? It has been discussed several times that we need the source. If you're not happy with what the dev's are doing here then read up and port ICS yourself.:rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] midnightslide:
Maybe I will... :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] eortizr:
Agree, we need some REAL devs... not just 'Themers' and Devs wannabe
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BrokenLegGuy:
You need to delete your account and never come back.

It's people like you that amaze me. These devs are ding this for fun. You are not entitled to anything. Nothing.

Keep that in your head the next time you decide you want to insult a bunch of people doing this work FOR FREE!

If you have any grey matter that works you won't post in here again.

I think devs should start charging for roms for two reasons. One, you wed out morons like this guy and the second is pretty obvious. Put some money in those well deserved pockets.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] yoderk:
You sir are a prime example of some of the **** that festers in these forums, you have not and never will contribute anything. Why don't you leave and never come back, it would be most beneficial to everyone in this forum to be rid of the likes of you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
I'll be waiting for your ics release. Can you theme it green? Make sure everthing works too :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] eortizr:
mission accomplished:cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] cfaberlle:
Don't feed the Troll! :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] eep2378:
If your looking for your last firing neuron, stop, its vanished forever! BLEEP YOU! :eek:

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Not as ridiculous as your post.........you and eortizr need to go fly a kite! :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Captpt:
Here here yoderk!!! You are spot on!!!

Wow, I can't believe he actually bashed the developers/contributors here..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
About the issues of home being back, and back and search keys not working on ics, why can't we re-map the keys without source? There we able to do it on the Captivate, so why not here?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
The touchkey driver is architectured SIGNIFICANTLY different from the Captivate one.

See https://github.com/Entropy512/linux...input/keyboard/cypress/cypress-touchkey.c#L69 for reference - in the I9100/I777 touchkey driver, the keymap is hardcoded in that array.

I'm going to do some more investigation to see if MAYBE the other keys get through, but as far as I can tell - the back key doesn't even get sent to userland because it isn't defined. Can't remap what you don't get.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
I was hoping I'd get a reply from you. Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] goldynchyld:
I really just hope atleast ICS is released to the international version before the SGS 3 is released
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
Probably will
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ktoonsez:
Ya they got lucky, to bad we will probably neveer see it as no one is working on our phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LiLChris06:
I hope you mean nobody at AT&T, cause our developers here are waiting for a missing key before we get a working ICS. :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ktoonsez:
That would be cool but last I heard all developers are waiting on a kernel source drop?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LiLChris06:
That is the "missing key" I was referring to. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ktoonsez:
Thats what I thought but had to make sure there was no new developments.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] axis01:
There can't be any NEW development until Samsung gives them something to develop. The excellent devs we have are cleaning up the last bits of the latest GB release. Not much else to do to them in their current form.

I learned in the Cappy forums that people are NEVER satisfied. I can guarantee you that within weeks of ICS dropping, the where is "jellybean" threads will start popping up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] garyd9:
Jellybean is coming out soon? When will we be getting it? How come there's isn't already an alpha of CM10 posted for our device?

Gary
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] iteam:
What would you do for a Klondroid Bar?

KLONDROID - Coming to a device near you soon!:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rav4kar:
could you be a little more specific?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] iteam:
Sorry, I must have been typing in my sleep as I don't remember posting that!:eek: Guess I was trying to be funny...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Metroidman:
I read the AT&T Galaxy Note kernel source was released already. WTF is the holdup with the Galaxy S2? Am I missing something? Comeon Sammy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
Have a link?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] NJGSII:
That's the kernel source of the stock firmware that's going to be coming with the phone when it comes out, not for ICS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
This could possibly be because ICS looks to get here mere months before Google announces Jellybean lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
That's Gingerbread source code for a new device. Has nothing whatsoever to do with ICS.

We will get kernel sources around when I9100 ICS goes live - unfortunately Samsung sucks at posting source code for updates. They're violating the GPL with the Infuse now - UCKL2 went officially live but source is not available.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pfmahoney:
The one thing that I don't understand is that ICS "leaked" ROMs are available for the i9100 at Sammobile.com.

For example (sorry, can't link... still under my 8 post limit)

www dot sammobile dot com/2012/02/02/new-ics-for-the-galaxy-s-ii-i9100xxlpb/

So as near as I can tell (although I'm a n00b), these are supposed to be leaked ICS ROMs from Samsung for the i9100.... I'm sure there's something obvious that I'm missing, but can't we use just use the kernel from that?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] MotoMudder77:
Yes, we can use the kernal from that. Our button keymaps are wrong, with i9100. No sound or mic in calls.

Nothing has changed, never will untill we get an i777 leak or release. Its been posted over and over again.

But hell Im sure we all love repeating ourselves to idiots that cant read or search.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pfmahoney:
I did actually search for it. But it's a hard thing to find the right search terms for.

I'm familiar with linux kernels but I'm still learning Android - I've only had a phone for about a month. Thanks for answering the question, I think. Although, I am still confused because I wouldn't have thought that the keymap has anything to do with the kernel.

But I wasn't aware that the i9100 ROM doesn't work with the i777 microphone or speakers.

Edit:

Ah. Yeah, I found a good thread using Google.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1385859

I had no idea that there were that many hardware differences between the i777 and i9100. So, yeah, you were right. I should have searched more - although I seem to find it easier to find things via Google searches of XDA-developers.com than I can using the internal search here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Why wouldn't it, a kernel deals with hardware, and the hardware for the keys on the I9100 is totally different from the I777. (One mechanical, two capacitive, vs. four capacitive.)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pfmahoney:
Because on Linux, you'd just use xmodmap and even if the key didn't exist on the keyboard you had, you could still remap it. And none of this would come close to the kernel.

But, point taken, things are different in Android-land I see. I've read a bunch now and I can see that I was mistaken. Thanks, Entropy. I see I have much to learn. I'll work through Cyanogen's thread recommendation over the next week or two and hopefully I'll understand more in the future.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
This was possible on the Captivate, but the touchkey drivers for the GS2 are written so that the second two keys (back and search) on the bottom can't even be remapped because they don't even send a keycode.

I can't think of any sane way to get things to work with only two keys, other than the ICS softkey hack. (Apparently a few people have done that, but that's a fugly workaround.)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thenyeguy:
I understand the problems with hardware differences and what not. I was just wondering, if we have kernel source for the i9100, and we have gingerbread kernel source for both the i777 and the i9100, why can't the old kernel sources be used to find what needs to change between i9100 and i777 to help developers modify the ICS kernel from the i9100 build? Is this just too complex and too many changes occured between 2.3 and 4.0?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Smacdallas:
+1 i agree why wouldent this work?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thisischuck01:
We don't have kernel source for the i9100. We may have some leaked ROMs, but that is no-where near leaked kernel source.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Except we DON'T have kernel source for the I9100 ICS kernels and we WON'T have them until I9100 ICS is released officially. Because the kernels in leaks were technically never "provided" to users on XDA by Samsung (someone intercepted the distribution method of the leaks), Samsung can get away without providing kernel sources in this specific case. Once they officially release ICS, they will legally be required to provide kernel source, and fixing the keylayout will take about 10 minutes.

Call audio is a different story - there's a bunch of device-specific crap in the modems and the binary-only audio HAL libraries that could get nasty, as those are items that have never had sources.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Because of one critical part of his plan - I9100 ICS kernel source code.

WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
What happen if Samsung does release the ICS update for i777? (I've heard on 02/19)

Can we extract the kernel directly from it, and not waiting for the i9100?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thisischuck01:
We can't just "extract a kernel" from a build. Things that are compatible with TW won't be compatible with stock Android. A great example of that would be the current build of CM 9 for the i9100. Even though video recording/playback is working in the leaked TW builds, they are not working in CM 9.

Anyways, it's very unlikely that Samsung will release and update for the i777 before they release an update for the i9100. Before the update for the i777 is released, it has to go through AT&T, and we all know how AT&T is about updates. The i9100, being an international phone, won't have these hold ups.

However, with every official release, Samsung has to release kernel source, to keep in line with Android's open source standards. So with their release of ICS (TW) for the i777, they will also release kernel source.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
I don't even think we need the source for the i777, just the i9100

Sent from my GT-I9100
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] igolfchip:
I went into today concerned about the buttons and compatibility of the SGS2 with ICS.

Since the buttons are part of the screen (great idea - adaptive for future OS updates), I have less concern, but still some about ICS compatibility.

Bigger issue is that ICS looks a lot like Windows Phone - some things about Gingerbread and Froyo are much more attractive
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgotti107:
Touché...that really grinded my gears when i seen how the menu buttons where integrated...and based on ATT's track record with updates...the GSII may turn out to be another Captivate maybe? I just don't see how it would work as an "official" update...while adaptive it would render the GSII's buttons useless...therefore taking away from the overall screen and device...especially if you were purchasing one off the shelf after the update...might as well wait for a phone that supports ics natively to release...and that would halt the GSII's sales prematurely...but the sdk is available so...a few days maybe we might have a better idea???

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2 using the mind reader app...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Rrryan2:
Buttons are likely not the hugest issue. SGSII won't have the same upgradabliity or customizability as soft buttons, but if nothing else they basically have to make a retro-compatible version for the Nexus S "developer phone", which has more or less the same buttons, right?

I'm a fan of the WP7 UI myself for its at-a-glance functionality, wouldn't quite see making ICS more like it as a detractor. And presumably you can still use custom launchers etc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
I would think they thought of that. They made the carriers agree to supply updates for 18 months.

I bet the buttons will always be hidden on any phones with capacitive/physical buttons.

Yes, att has a bad track record for updates, but once the international version gets it we won't be far behind thanks to the great devs here.

I too am excited for the WP7 cues, clean, and at-a-glace visibility.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dan40hands:
Carriers have to supply updates for 18 months, but unfortunately that doesn't mean they'll be timely...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] runtohell121:
Going to take forever for AT&T to give us any update... :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kgn1224:
Anybody surprised its released with a 5mp camera and not an 8 MP?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgotti107:
I have no doubt it will be ported...but the way the ui is set up on ics makes all the hype and time I waited on this phone a little bit disappointing if I wont get the full feel of ics...oh well...that's why I have four lines I suppose...and I'm loving my phone nonetheless...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2 using the mind reader app...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jonathanhtc:
I am thinking... Google not make an a deal with the carriers to updates phones more fast?. And am guessing ... my GS2II will have it before 2011 ends!! Ics is amazing... the thing is that our phone is way better than the Nexus!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Rolex81:
http://goo.gl/2YfTo Saw this earlier
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jetarpon:
Matt Cutts posted on Google+ that he's been running ICS on his Nexus S.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/109412257237874861202/posts?hl=en
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Aldiggi:
What do you guys think GSII <> Galaxy Nexus. I have to admit besides the screen and ICS that's all it has over the GSII.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Rrryan2:
That's about it, strictly speaking. I think I would like a 720p display, but I think the curved handset would be annoying in daily usage.

One additional consideration is that as a Nexus 'AOSP' device, updates would presumably be much, much more timely.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Cryptik!:
Now the long wait to find out when At&t will carry the nexus
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] flucks:
System dump is already out for the Galaxy Nexus:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich/127382-ice-cream-sandwich-sdk-system-dump.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] flucks:
Yes. Source will not be out for about a month (my guess).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mrRobinson:
Yes surprised there is so much talk here about the buttons. with any phone with the physical buttons running ICS the software buttons will not show up at all. The software buttons are there and part of the design so that moving forward new phones can opt to not have any physical buttons and rely on the OS. However new devices will still come out with ICS with physical buttons.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] WGSXFrank:
This.

I had a very hard time informing my friend and mom that ICS will support the capacitive and hardware buttons found on most/some android phones.

The software buttons are just an option, not necessity.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rbtconsultants:
ICS emulator in the SDK doesn't have the software buttons, it uses the "hardware buttons" as it always has.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
All the software buttons do is give the phone manufactures a way to increase the screen size without having to make the actual phone any bigger, thus giving more screen realestate to watch movies or play games.

I think I prefer hard (capacitive) buttons over screen buttons anyway.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rav4kar:
If this is true, that's really great, how reliable what you heard is?! :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
I don't work for SS so I can't confirm. About the "heard", how reliable? from SS CSR. How many percent true? I don't know. It could well be 02/19 of 2013, who know. Anyway, let's see.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
There is NO WAY IN HELL we're getting an update on 2/19 when the I9100 isn't scheduled to get it until March. This is AT&T we're talking about.

Unless, as someone has pointed out, that 2/19 date is 2/19/2013 - that would be pretty typical of AT&T.

We MIGHT get lucky and start seeing I777 leaks around when I9100 ICS goes live - even one I777 leak will go a long way towards fixing the most likely non-kernel issues (modem and audio libraries).

If I777 leaks show up before I9100 ICS goes live - then we don't even have to jank around with kernel extraction and such, we'll have a full firmware package to work with. However, it will be lacking source, so we'll be limited as to what we can do with it.

The best possible situation for us is:

I9100 ICS goes live (which means kernel source)

I777 ICS gets a leak providing us with a more suitable modem and audio libs.

We can probably work around not having the appropriate audio libs - but combining that with not having an appropriate kernel or source code for a closely related kernel is a showstopper.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SeanHacker:
We'll get official ICS when the SGS 4 is released. :D

Thanks AT&T
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Slavestate:
HAH! Way back when I had a Blackberry Curve, it took ATT a good year to release their OS updates after RIM had already made them available and every other carrier had already released it (I think it was BB OS 4, but its been awhile).. Most of us ended up just downloading them from RIM, changing the vendor files so it worked for ATT phones, and installing them ourselves.. Not to mention by the time ATT did finally release its update, we were already a few versions ahead of what they finally put out..

My last phone, the horrid Motorola Backflip wasnt too bad, despite being outdated already when it was released.. We only had to wait about 8 months or so after release for the official 2.1 upgrade (which most of us were already running anyways thanks to the folks at the ModMyMobile forums)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] rav4kar:
at&t likes their customer upgrade phones not OS ( always sales point of view..lol) :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Since people are now whining about the Epic 4G Touch having "working" ICS - that build is currently so broken (as in it is not "working" by any sane measure) that you'd be in better shape running an unmodified I9100 build on I777 than what the E4GT community has right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LiLChris06:
I saw everything that was broken and this was my face = :eek:

Not sure how could so many use a phone like that just to say they have ICS.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BIGDADDYXXL:
I talked to AT&T tech support they said we are estimated at March or April 2012. That is what Samsung set for them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] LiLChris06:
I feel like calling just to see if they say something different. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] eortizr:
ICS for i777 is not coming any time soon,,, the so called 'devs' are not smart enough to figure it out...:p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Captpt:
I'd be very surprised i777 sees ICS before the fall. AT&T being the culprit of course..