yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] magic_man:
Drivers can make a huge difference. Look at NVDIA and ATI cards were graphics updates greatly increased performance.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture/3

According to Anand the Adreno 220 should have as much raw compute power as sgx543mp2. However we see that clearly is not the case.

When I have more time I will try to do more benchmarks to quantify the differences.

I do feel like scrolling has gotten smoother, but that could be a placebo affect. If more more people could try it and post some benchmarks it would be useful in figuring out if these drivers are better.
[HTC Sensation] anarchyuk:
I agree with you on the ati and nvidia argument.. but we are not talking 2 different gpu's.. they are both adreno and they should have the same drivers if written correctly from the white paper when Samsung and HTC bought the SOC chips..

test away and see how you go...
[HTC Sensation] MxFadzil92:
i open up the egl.zip and compare the one that is in my phone. found most of the drivers are the same one in my phone except for eglSub.so and out.txt :confused:
[HTC Sensation] spoogedemon:
utg on our beloved sensation would be awesome!
[HTC Sensation] mohsinkhan47:
Freezes at boot on cm
[HTC Sensation] rickytr23:
I'm using RCMix 3.5 v08 it loads but there is no data on my phone I did notice a little change or maybe it was in my head. I will try again.:D
[HTC Sensation] bonesy:
The real test would be to improve the Adreno drivers, i have looked into newer drivers on other devices but the Amaze only had an Adreno 205 where as i think we and the Evo 3d have Adreno 225..I recall on the hero someone found a matching Adreno driver that was newer and it gave one hell of a boost!
[HTC Sensation] chchang1:
10000chars
[HTC Sensation] tonno16:
this experimental mod is spectacular. But just asking, why I could use s2' drivers if adredno 220 is more power of mali400?
[HTC Sensation] MxFadzil92:
coz t-mobile sgs2 phones are using the same chipset as us that is adreno 220 =D for that t-mobile sgs 2 phones only other sgs 2 phones are using mali 400
[HTC Sensation] tonno16:
ok ok, but think is useless to use this driver
[HTC Sensation] rickytr23:
yep I get an error for my wifi setting and there is no data connect .:confused:
[HTC Sensation] tonno16:
All works for me with synergy and bricked kernel.

What is difference between two buttons in linpack?
[HTC Sensation] tonno16:
I'm testing now on insercoin + bricked kernel. all works. also data connect and wifi.
[HTC Sensation] NYCguy2020:
Interesting.I'll give this a try.
[HTC Sensation] n1kon:
What's the results people are seeing.
[HTC Sensation] SN4K3B1T3:
The amaze and the evo3d share the same same 220 , the 225 is coupled with the next gen dual core from snapdragon, the 23nm process ones

sent from Christ All Mighty II
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Alex1x:
So now that Ice Cream Sandwich has been revealed and SDK available for download, I'm curious (1) when we can expect ROM based on ICS and (2) ICS is button less, so what happens to our phones with buttons?

(Benefits of rooting is that we get updates sooner than manufacturer updates, true?)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
It's still a process and lets keep in mind that the SDK will lead to ports, the source code will lead to true ROMs.

So that's still dependent on Google.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Alex1x:
I'm assuming source code has not been released, based on previous releases... how long does google take and release the source code after announcement? I'm really loving ICS, cant wait.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
Already flipping through the apps. My theme is going to have accurate icons soon. :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Alex1x:
are you able to include things like ICS people app or only icons?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Overstew:
Icons mostly, but if it's within my limitations, I can do some magic. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
Oh overstew. You da man
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ttieder:
Can someone post the apps from ics
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Epix4G:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1309732
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Dulanic:
Will we get ICS... yes. When? Based on Samsung's upgrade history I would guess once the next android is announced, which I am sure will be jelly something. Look at the OG epic... samsung JUST released GB source code for it, yet still hasn't release GB for it. Basically Samsung lags behind a release when upgrading phones.
[Droid Incredible General] nyte3k:
As everyone has noticed, there has been a major reconstruction of the UI on Ice Cream Sandwich. What are the thoughts of everyone relating to a possible new Sense UI?

Do you think that HTC will keep their current Sense UI (i.e. Sense 3.5) intact, or do you think they will try to derive something from the the 'vanilla look.'
[Droid Incredible General] loonatik78:
HTC is deeply invested in Sense. It's NOT going anywhere. Android alone is one ugly son of a ***** that NEEDS some sort of UI and HTC is going to keep evolving theirs even if they ditch Android, which some rumors have hinted they might do at some point.
[Droid Incredible General] username235:
They might make a few improvements to the current 3.5 look, but I'm sure it'll change drastically at some point....I dunno. Honestly I have no clue, I lost my train of thought in the middle of writing this because of a distraction...lol
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] otter5:
I have been using my HTC HD2 for the last year and a half running android using T-mobiles t-zones 5.99 internet plan. I don't really want to pay $30+ for data if I don't really have to and was wondering if anyone knew any recent phones that were able to run data with t-zones.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baseballfanz:
Nexus One, Xperia X10. Some of the Nokia like the N8 or N900 will allow 3G with the 5.99 tzone
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] otter5:
Thanks. I just found a list on howardfourms. I think it's time I ditch the 5.99 plan and just go with the Amaze, I'm not sure yet...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheTechnician:
Are you using the Tmobile one or the factory unlocked one ? is still working with tzone? im asking because i still have tzone and want to buy a HD2

it have 3G speeds ?

thx
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mplsdunk:
try it, you can always return it. i've never once got LOS. 3g sucks but that's sprint's network, not the phone. my battery life is really good. the phone takes forever to charge but i don't have any weird draining issues like some people.

sometimes i think xda has a tendancy to blow things out of proportion. i'd say give it a try, if it sucks you can exchange it and swap it out or go back to your evo.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
No one can tell you what phone to get.

Here's some comments on your concerns:

1) The LoStkernel from chris41g almost completely eliminates LOS.

2) Slow 3g speeds are coming to an end with Sprint Network Vision

3) Battery life seems to be phone dependent. Some get great life, I for one get crappy life. As AOSP ROMs come out I have a feeling the battery issues will be resolved.

4) With AOSP, ICS will for sure come to this device. No question. No debate.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nabbed:
LOS = n/a: When I use a stock kernel; I had two instances when I didn't. Which is why I use stock now.

Slow 3G speeds = they are all about the same - 1.1-1.6Mbps. Was about the same on Evo 3D recently.

Battery = best battery ever. Twice battery of Evo 3D and Evo4G.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
OP its a tiny % that have all these issues. Odds say you will ne fine my brother. Its a good phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
I brought up the 3G speeds not because of Sprints network, but because some people said there were issues where they would get CRAPPY speeds on this device, and test on say an EVO, and get amazing speeds. Reminded me of when the Nexus S 4G came out, and had reception issues (particularly with 4G), so thats where my concern was. I figured im just going to go ahead and pick it up! :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] davidc23:
Woot! Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] tracerit:
the only thing i HATE about this phone is the battery life. But like others have said, I'm just one of the few. The battery just drains like crazy, losing 12%/hr over night. It's insane. I'll be rooting it in a few days but that' hasn't been a verified fix. And i'm too cheap to get a replacement (refurb) from Sprint for $35 lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SpaceMonky:
just remember, people with the problems are going to be the most prominent and loudest.

how often will someone make a post like " my phone is great, absolutely nothing to complain about!"?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluefire808:
+1 I couldn't agree more
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skykc0401:
All i have to say "get this beast"!!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] r2hudson:
this phone is the best android phone out right now. if you can wait a month im sure we will hear about something better coming around the corner. i would recommend this phone, it isnt perfect but its still great.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Will of fire:
Best phone out if u can't wait for the galaxy nexus.i love mines
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Akradroid:
I'd say if you had Sprint, this is argubaly th best phone you can get. Those problems aren't a big deal and you won't find another phone without problems. These problems you say are really things that will be fixed in prob 3 months?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dw3bb10:
So best buy would be the best bet? Even if the upgrade is on a total different account? I just dont want to lose the discount on the phone!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VeEzyZ32:
Mines worked great until I rooted it. I went from never having LoS to random LoS
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dkpaladin:
Both of mine LOS'd from the get go. In fact the First one LOS'd on the way home from the Sprint store. It's a really fast, really pretty phone....If Sam/Sprint give it a little love it would be the best phone they have. Until then, I wouldn't recommend this phone.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skykc0401:
Rooted phone does not cause the LOS!! Rooted phone just makes u to access more stuffs with ur phone than unrooted phone.

Sent from my Galaxy SII √Epic4G Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dkpaladin:
And honestly if Rooting your phone did cause LOS's that would be just another reason not to buy it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] skykc0401:
I got 3 of epic touchs none of them los but i know one thing for sure is not the rooting. I like this phone alot;)

Sent from my Galaxy SII √Epic4G Touch
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mikebel3:
I would check out Amazon before best. Last I heard they had them discounted to $149.99 plus you don't pay taxes so that's another $40 - $60+ savings. I usually use Amazon or Wirefly.

Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bluv4eva:
I think you should go for it. I had the OG Evo, then the Evo 3D both are nice but Samsung got the best of HTC with this beast.
[Huawei Ideos X6] kshitij_bhatt:
What do you think about galaxy Naxus and new released Android 4 Ice cream sandwich ..

will pur phone ever get that update... :p or its jst a dream

i think with custom roms its possible we might also get ice cream sandwich ... :cool: :D :cool:

i would love to know more about its support hope all developers here are interested too to port it ;)
[Huawei Ideos X6] haree:
hi

dude u really are a great dreamer:D. But with the great developers we have may be one day it will become a realty we just have to wait and see:D:D

and it looks like we are getting one more Rom developer in u tooooo:)
[Huawei Ideos X6] ronhoover88:
Why not haree when cyanogen and marcellusbe are there:)
[Huawei Ideos X6] haree:
buddy thats what i said u didnt read my post i said this : But with the great developers we have may be one day it will become a realty we just have to wait and see:):)
[Huawei Ideos X6] ronhoover88:
Lets hope all the devices enjoy the ice cream :)
[Huawei Ideos X6] kshitij_bhatt:
yes we can get it my dreams are really big bt i think proff tj could make it possible very soon with his cyanogen or miui ;)

hehhee and thanx @haree,... i m jst a very new kid to all this jst learned from those who are actually gr8 developers ... :) those answers for the questions i asked really helped me out for understanding all this
[Huawei Ideos X6] yourpappa:
I think we will receive an official update. Many comopanies sell this phone under different names. Also there is Motorola which sells this as Triumph , and now Moto has been bought by google so it raises our chances a lot

The only thing I'm worried about is that triumph is not GSM (according to gsmarena)

so its OS may not be compatible with ours.
[Huawei Ideos X6] whyzee:
We will if we had more DEVELOPERS working on this phone...

TJ is all we have now......
[Huawei Ideos X6] haree:
hi

dude the great part is u read and u are trying & im sure its just a question of time for ur success:).To be frank with u look at me i have been here for a long time have flashed many many roms on various phones but what ever reading i do I just dont get the art of cooking Roms its too confusing for me :eek::confused:

good work man keep it up :D:D
[Huawei Ideos X6] kshitij_bhatt:
ok here is a quick view i found about ice cream over the net...

Ice cream sandwich will support hardware acceleration for 2d graphic's drawing .... daaa now for me it seems impossible our phone could do that ... i think it even share the ram memory for graphics creation
[Huawei Ideos X6] Napstar:
If we demand a stable release then we will have to wait for few months, I guess.

Source:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...eam-cm9-will-arrive-when-the-ics-source-does/

http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/32701-fancy-an-ice-cream-sandwich/

Once CM is ported for ICS, it should not be much difficult for porting it to devices. :)

Till then wait.
[Huawei Ideos X6] kshitij_bhatt:
yes with cm it might get possible bt ... come on there is only one person working yet on cm ... i think u r planning too..

bt it will take more then a few months ... i think over 3 to 4 months... :cool: hmm in this mean time .. we could learn more about porting roms what u say ;)
[Huawei Ideos X6] Napstar:
Yes, I would like to learn.

But I dont know how far I can take it with my current office work load.

Lets see..

If I find anything interesting related to porting, I will post it in our forum for sure. :)
[Huawei Ideos X6] kshitij_bhatt:
:D then i have a very good option for u ... jst post what u know and i will do the work .. after 16th of nov all my exams will be over so i will be as free as a bull... ;) then i will have 3 months totaly free not a single work to do

so in this mean time i would love to do with the roms and all other things what i actually could do.. ;)
[Huawei Ideos X6] mi410:
Ice Cream Sandwich changelog

The Ice Cream Sandwich version reportedly contains the best of both Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) and Android 3.0 (Honeycomb). Here's the list of new features as well as improvements:

A new font optimized for HD displays.

Possibility of eliminating hardware buttons in favour of software buttons (like the Nokia N9).

Interactive notifications and resizable widgets.

Ability to access apps directly from the lock screen (Similar to HTC's Sense 3.0 UI).

Introduction of Android Beam, which uses Near Field Communication (NFC) to pair devices (as seen in Nokia's NFC-enabled devices).

Face detection, panorama mode, and time lapse video features for the camera app.

A new mail app allows you to search in offline mode, and a redesigned calendar app features a new swipe gesture for navigation.

Deep Google+ integration.

A facial detection feature to unlock the phone (similar to the FaceLock app in Symbian devices).

A data usage tracker to see how much data has been used over a period of time.
[Huawei Ideos X6] paarkhi:
We will need to wait for the source to get released to port it (Source is not yet released)

or is it?
[Huawei Ideos X6] kshitij_bhatt:
no its not yet released ... do we really have to worry about it till we have tj_style ..? :P :D
[Huawei Ideos X6] vivekb:
TJ has already started working on ICS.......

Hoping for ICS in next few month ........
[Huawei Ideos X6] astrajingga:
Wish i can help him
[Huawei Ideos X6] kshitij_bhatt:
if u want to help keep on testing ;) and also there is an option to donate ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Reserved - 10 char again ...
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Changed the name to get more attention. Surprised that no one gave a comment about it :)

Appreciate any comments or criticisms or correction of what I've written here.

Thanks!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] carnagecjb:
Excellent Read!

Thank you very much!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Glad you enjoyed it :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Dataslycer:
this is actually really helpful. half the time I really didnt know what I was messing around with :D thanks.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Cool :) Glad that you liked it.

Hope this gets more attention as I would want it to be beneficial to people who uses tweaks and to know how to use them :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] ShyamSasi:
Nice read Mate. I used to wonder about I/O schedulers and which one to use etc. I like to add build.prop scripts and int.d scripts. This thread just helped me to understand more about it.

Thanks! ;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] sageDieu:
read every word, thank you very much. I'll be talking to my kernel dev about BIGRAM... on miui our 720p recording doesn't work right anyways. Thanks again for the great info.

Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Thank you for reading. Hope the knowledge comes in handy when you tweak your phone :)

Wow, great! Hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] kevnac:
having trouble with your thunderbolt tweak. I downloaded the file for I9000 placed it on my phone (SD card) mounted my system and data in recovery mode then proceeded to install the thunderbolt zip file. Using script manager i found the bolt_scripts file and ticked the run at boot button. Then i hit the run button and got 14 permission denied messages asking are you root. Do i have to run this as root. Might be a dumb question but im very new to trying this. Thanks
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Yes, you need to run everything as root :). Scripts in init.d would already be running as root. You just need to make sure Script Manager is running as root for the remount script :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] zeekiz:
Excellent thread, very well written, had a quick skim read, but I'm going to take some time tonight to absorb it all ;-).

Thank you!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Cool :) Thank you for reading such a long article :P

Let me know if you have any questions or if you think I made a mistake :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] testomat:
superb thread !
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Thank you for reading :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rom-g:
+1

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[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Thank you for the support :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Radikaal:
Great thread, even thought i use a SGS II i found much interesting information :)

smoothness is what i value most in my phone (aslong as battery doesnt drain like crazy) and after changing I/O Scheduler to SIO after reading this thread it really feels scrolling in webpages, menus and homescreens is the smoothest ive had yet after trying every ROM/Kernel there is to the phone :)

Atleast webpage scrolling is very noticeable smoothest ive had so far, rest might be placebo:)

Thanks for sharing the great information!
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Cool :) Thank you for spending the time to read. :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] escalebur:
thanx very match :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
No problem. Glad that you had fun reading the thread :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] formeforfree:
Useful knowledge. Very well written.

I use supercharger and now understand what its doing.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Cool :)

Thanks for reading :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] rajasyaitan:
Top class my fellow countrymen. Thanks for your thorough guide.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Thank you for spending the time to read it :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Forgot to include this on the main thread:

The Battery Usage scale is based on a 100% scale. It doesn't matter if Android System is at 50% or even 75%. Try looking at it from this perspective:

Battery Usage case #1:

Display 50%

Cell Standby 20%

Some app 20%

Android System 5%

...

...

Battery Usage case #2:

Cell Standby 50%

Android System 30%

Display 10%

Battery Usage case #3:

Display 30%

Cell Standby 20%

Android System 15%

Tell me, are the modems display faulty at case #1 and modem incompatible for case #2 and case #3 is teh bestest ROMlulz of all time?

No, they're all the same ROM, same phone and configuration. Case #1 only had 8 hours of battery life (as Display was at 5 hours++). Case #2 had only 10-20mins of display time and had a battery life of 2 days, also weak signal contributed to a high cell standby. Case #3 had a display time of 2 hours and good signal reception with 1.25 days of uptime.

Now, tell me, are all these cases faked? No. They're real and it all depends on how much you used your phone at certain situations. Android System will always drain a constant number of your battery no matter what (even in SGS2). How much or how little (ratio of drain vs battery life) depends on how long your battery life is.

If your sleep time is a lot, your Android System will seem like it drained more but in real life, it could be draining e.g. (using random numbers):

50mv per hour at sleep.

70mv per hour at wake.

Display will drain 500mv (just a random number) per hour at medium brightness.

Cell standby assumed to have 75mv, 90mv, 200mv per hour of drain without packet data, with packet data and with HSDPA respectively.

Assuming battery size is 4200mv.

Without doing anything (airplane mode) and 0min display, your battery will drain in 3.5 days.

Battery Usage:
Android System 90%

If you had 2 hours of display + on network all the time without packet data, your phone will die in 21 hours.

Battery Usage:
Cell Standy 45%
Android System 25%
Display 23%

Note: These numbers are not counted correctly, but what the hell :P

Now, is the Android System bugged? You tell me. Maths, learn to use it. :)

Also, check BetterBatteryStats to see what's been draining your battery when it's asleep.
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] lqrt:
Is there a pdf format for this? :D
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Nope. I wrote all this in my spare time. The latest would be the first post + last post. If I find more time for this, I'll compile it into a PDF :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] dastinger:
Read it all. Amazing read! Bookmarked it for future reference..great work, thanks! :)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] iw3bmastEr:
thanks for the undervolt solution. i have read what to put in the frequencies but it did not mention how to do it? do i need an app for that? where do i have to go in my phone.

sorry for the noob question.

thanks a lot for the help
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] pikachu01:
Voltage Control ;)