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[Motorola Photon 4G] piaa_nissan:
At this point with only 1-2 active ROM devs for the Photon I'm not holding my breath on anything but what Moto pumps out. I wish they would leave more of the gingerbread experience intact like the themed Alien ROM
[Motorola Photon 4G] htcSlide:
Right there with u Shabby! OP.. Ur an idiot! Delete this crap!!
[Motorola Photon 4G] rohit3192:
Thread does not belong to development.

But this is foul language:
[Motorola Photon 4G] DssTrainer:
Until Motorola pulls its head out of its ass and stops releasing phones in the shadow of bigger deal phones... and stops locking its bootloaders... you will never get a finished port of anything to a motorola phone... Photon was DOA in the developer arena since Evo3D came out just before. Locking up all the new 2 year contracts. Even the CM7 port has gone nowhere fast and will never leave alpha state. ICS won't even come close to photon by the time CM ports it.

The new RAZR will also be DOA with the nexus shadowing it. Moto has the same marketing skill as HP with touchpad... that is... none.
[Motorola Photon 4G] NOMIOMI:
will ICS comes on PHOTON officially or no officially :confused:?????
[Motorola Photon 4G] theelite:
you will know it's official when they announce it for the phone officially.
[Motorola Photon 4G] DssTrainer:
It looks like ICS was designed for phones without buttons. So probably not
[Motorola Photon 4G] iLLa:
thanks for the replies guys. i got the answer i was looking for.

sorry it bothered some of u to post in this section. i wasnt sure if it should be in general or dev, since my question was about dev. an admin can move the post or delete it.
[Motorola Photon 4G] htcSlide:
-.- Really? Idiot and crap is foul? As many f-bombs and other things I've seen and u point this out? THAT is crap! I apologize to all the idiots I may have offended. Smh.. Get a life.
[Motorola Photon 4G] Kcarpenter:
They won't be getting rid of physical button entirely, especially on lower end devices where a smaller screen makes up the cost for adding buttons. Also - some users don't like on screen buttons.

Just because it has on screen controls doesn't mean they will be used for every device from here on out. I can assure you that more than "future" phones will have this OS - several phones currently out will get the update. And if you think other wise we have big issues. :)
[Motorola Photon 4G] rohit3192:
Reason is that your remark was personal to a member.

You may say F motorola ,for say, locked bootloader,nobody is stopping you.

Just respect other member(s).

He just asked for ICS ,even none of dev was rude to him.

back to topic: google nexus has physical buttons and ics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W6QbAX_E3-k#!
[Motorola Photon 4G] DssTrainer:
LOL I may think otherwise... :)

It is still unclear. There needs to be a way to hide the onscreen honeycomb buttons for phones that already have buttons. What about the search button... that isn't shown as one of the new buttons. And the menu button replaced with the recent apps button.

ICS seems to be a larger update than Gingerbread was to Froyo and Froyo to Eclair. I suppose CM could hack it up to work on older phones.. but will manufacturers do that? Or did google add backwards compatibility with button-based phones?

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Tho i see this was just announced that Nexus S will be getting 4.0 so maybe you are right.. it can be back-ported:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/google-confirms-nexus-s-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich-for-real/
[Motorola Photon 4G] pmcnano:
Im pretty sure the whole buttons thing its just a line in build.pop fix.
[Motorola Photon 4G] htcSlide:
So.. Onward to importantce.. Has any of our esteemed devs downloaded the SDK yet?
[Motorola Photon 4G] Custodian:
Yay im bumping a thread weeee
[Motorola Photon 4G] shabbypenguin:
there is no need to. the sdk is for building apps. anyone trying to base a rom off of its files is really wasting their time. it will be missing so many things that it booting would be a godsend. you are talking of a massive jump in kernel versions, froyo is on 2.6.32 gb is 2.6.35 ICS is 3.0.0
[Motorola Photon 4G] kennypow3rs:
Wow what a douche move posting this here. I thought we had an sdk as well. *shakes old man fist*
[Motorola Photon 4G] dmora01:
So why nexus s is going to get the update?
[Motorola Photon 4G] criptix:
That's what I thought about kernel versions so why is the photon running 2.6.32
[Motorola Photon 4G] Kcarpenter:
Not maybe...i am...97% of the time. Other 3% im still right, people just font agree.
[HTC Sensation] Worbit Jiminage:
I've decided that my next phone will be a HTC sensation, but what if we could buy a HTC sensation xe back cover, use it on an original sensation, then BAM! Red speaker grill, black back cover and beats audio logo printed on. That coupled with a custom ROM that gives you a beats audio profile will give you a sensation identical to a sensation xe except for the red LED lights and the higher capacity battery( you could buy high capacity battery).

So, what do you think?
[HTC Sensation] idavid_:
I thought this was obvious? Lol

But yeah, I hope I can get a XE cover soon, I want to make the current one brushed aluminum :D

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
[HTC Sensation] vincepg13:
Had this idea as soon as I saw sensation xe, unfortunately haven't been able to find any back covers for sale
[HTC Sensation] TheStigx:
As soon I get the chance, I will do it! :D
[HTC Sensation] mzmo:
I've heard it won't work. Something to do with the pins or the antenna on the back covers being different. But don't take my word for it lol

Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
[HTC Sensation] usual_suspect:
I think thats just the T-Mobile USA it applies to, as the antenna is different on the Sensation 4G

Cheers
[HTC Sensation] jerrylzy:
Yes,they are different..S4G has got one more antenna:)

Sent from my greatest Sensation 4G
[HTC Sensation] vegi71:
so there is no sensation xe with 4g?:confused:
[HTC Sensation] Worbit Jiminage:
Go to ebay uk search 'htc sensation xe back cover' its the 8th or 9th one down it says 'ORIGINAL OEM HTC SENSATION XE BEATS AUDIO BLACK REAR BACK DOOR BATTERY COVER' It might be from hong kong but its a start, only £30 too!:D
[HTC Sensation] yerand:
i've been thinking about how to do this with a tmous sensation... and this is what i've found.... the XE back has a spot for the 4g contact... what do you guys think?
[HTC Sensation] hoang83:
You can always purchase the new XE cover from ebay and pop off the top plastic piece and replace it with your original one so you can retain the antenna. The camera ring also pops off. The only difference would be the plastic will be two-tone from the bottom piece like the original sensation.
[HTC Sensation] mdpgc:
Original Genuine OEM Brand New HTC Sensation XE Black Rear Housing Battery Back Door

http://www.amazon.com/Original-HTC-...LKNC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319344077&sr=8-1
[HTC Sensation] Johnsonyc:
thanks for the link but I like to have the white one ha
[HTC Sensation] kevinsmbuk:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Faceplate-HTC-Sensation-Replacement/dp/B005Y8L0CA/ref=sr_1_7?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1320255615&sr=1-7
[HTC Sensation] brian.dore:
That white one looks nice. Like to see what else turns up in the future.
[HTC Sensation] hello00:
would it work on sensation 4G?
[HTC Sensation] kevinsmbuk:
I guess check if the contacts are in the right place on the pics
[HTC Sensation] Meagain1:
My Sensation is a Z710a (Australian model) It doesn't have the contact on the top left but does use 4G. It used to show a H but since changing to Coredroid, it shows 4G. (it also shows up as a Z710e now)If that missing contact is supposed to be the 4G antenna, how am I using 4G?

Also, what are the small contacts on the left about 2/3rd's of the way down? mine has 3
[HTC Sensation] crazy7guy:
Hey whats up guys! I have T-Mobile and just got my White HTC Sensation housing from ebay. It came with only 3 antennas but just so you know, I still get 4G, Wifi and GPS. It works perfect! Also it actually got rid of the grip of death issue as well.

Heres some links...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-Bac...468781?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27bfda23ad

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Sensati...881682?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2eb8eaa792
[HTC Sensation] hello00:
nice time for me to get one as well
[HTC Sensation] xdviper:
Wait, which attena does it not have? I'm about to remove one and try it on a spare back cover that I have and see if it eliminates the wifi death grip.
[HTC Sensation] Mi|enko:
I think what he meant to say is that it only has 3 of the 4 contact points.
[HTC Sensation] adamlayzell69:
Pictures for you to compare.

I have a sensation on an Orange contract (UK) and i have bought the XE back cover from Hong Kong. It fits perfect and looks great but i don't understand what you guys mean by the 4 antennas. I have posted a picture for you all to look at and compare. I do get 4G but only because of the ROM im using which changes the HSDPA symbol to 4G.
[HTC Sensation] Spr33y:
There are only three contacts on the back cover. The back covers should be compatible between all versions of the Sensation and Sensation XE.
[HTC Sensation] alikebab:
Will there be the same "issue" with those new white back covers? does anybody know this?
[HTC Sensation] jriv:
They all work fine even with only three contacs its been reported numarus times everything will work

sent from a guy living in a van down by the river
[HTC Sensation] JLR_F1986:
I thought that the XE version of the Sensation was supposed to be slightly bigger... That white cover looks hot!!
[HTC Sensation] Ace42:
Where did you hear that? The XE is the same size as Sensation, but the XL is 4.7' screen...The XE has a new color which may give the illusion of being larger. :p
[HTC Sensation] shadow666:
Looks damn sexy, didn't buy, because I was not sure if it was gonna get 4G, as I notice 4 antennas inside the cover. TMOUS
[HTC Sensation] jriv:
It works I'm usi.g the white one now on tmob and everything works data,4g,gps, WiFi. It works perfectly

sent from a guy living in a van down by the river
[HTC Sensation] redlyfs:
Have anyone modded their original back covers?
[HTC Sensation] JLR_F1986:
Yeah, you're right! I must have confused them both... I just bought me a white door got mine.

Thanx for sharing!
[HTC Sensation] JLR_F1986:
I got it about a week ago and love it! I have no issues with slow network... I was skeptical bit it even fit better than the original battery door which was slightly loose... I would highly recommended!!
[HTC Sensation] claud_face:
Actually you are also right. I believe the sensation xe is a bit thicker than regular sensation because it has bigger battery and therefore the cover sticks out minimally more.

At least that's what I thought awhile ago.
[HTC Sensation] mellll:
Hey guys,

I want to get a white back or beats back cover.

I have a Canadian Bell Sensation, what variant will that be?

Same back as US T-Mobile?

Google brings back nothing...
[HTC Sensation] bonesy:
http://www.gogotoshop.com/product_info.php?language=en&currency=GBP&products_id=4814

Searched google and found one!
[HTC Sensation] Nirrik:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Sensati...881682?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2eb8eaa792

Jesus $131 For the sensation xe white cover, not worth it imo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-Bac...468781?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27bfda23ad

$26 is more reasonable.
[HTC Sensation] osalve:
Good people!

Anyone knows because they have risen so the covers of the XE sensation white?

Thank you very much and best regards
[HTC Sensation] hello00:
can anyone please give me the site where you ordered your white housing from besides ebay? I ordered one from http://shop.brando.com/ and never gotten the item..it is been almost 3 weeks and the status still says pending so if anyone could recommend me a site it'd be much appreciated thanks
[HTC Sensation] G23 Mr Gimp:
Just a spot of info for everyone:

4G in the truest sense is any network based on the LTE Advanced standard.

The Sensation uses HSPA, which is an amalgam of HSDPA AND HSUPA which are both simply advancements of the UMTS standard which have been in common use for ages.

From a technical standpoint, the Sensation doesn't use 4G at all.

The need for the additional antenna has more to do with the need for stronger reception in the US due to the larger user base and larger geographical distances between base stations.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d3athsd00r:
Which item in /dev do I need to make a dd image of my internal SD Card?

When I do "df" it tells me that "/dev/block/vold/179:18" is mounted as /mnt/sdcard but also as /mnt/secure/asec
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.server:
Hi

I own the phone Samsung focus I am update 7720 mango

Is there a way to download applications xap free?​
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poyensa:
Good night Sir, please use a clear subject title in your thread, it will make easier to receive helpful answers and will help other users with same problem. Thanks in advance.
[Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chabun:
XDA is not for piracy... So don't expect an answer to this question...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgotti107:
Ok here's my scenario...I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan from At&t and I made a point of them making a note in my account before I purchased the SGS2. I rooted my phone and installed Cognition soon after. I attempted to tether before I rooted etc because the option was present while on stock, but of course a pop up appeared saying that I need to change my plan blah blah blah. Once rooted, I didn't tether because I really haven't had the need to yet...because I have wifi in my home. I will admit that I do consume a lot of data...particularly streaming and downloading content (such as roms etc directly to my device)...but that's the point of 4G unlimited data, correct? And even then a lot of the time I'm connected to wifi at home. The only thing I did differently was tried some APN settings that I seen on Android Central which were supposedly giving other SGSII users better download and upload speeds by connecting to the "backhaul". It was actually worse. So I receive an email saying that if they catch me tethering again, they will change my data plan on their own. So my question is, since I haven't actually tethered, could my actual data usage triggered the message...or since I attempted to tether...or or the APN changing...and how could I prevent them from changing it?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2 using the mind reader app...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] seh6183:
Ill tell you what, if you edit this into at least 3 readable paragraphs, I promise to give you a decent response.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
I think a phone call to att should solve your issue. If they did put you on a tethering plan, they can undo it. But, you may need to get a supervisor if the unlimited plan has been removed.

From what I understand you get warned at least once before they make any changes.

Also, story perfectly understandable to me as is.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] seh6183:
See how your post had 3 easily readable paragraphs and sentences? That's what I was referring to. His wall of text hurts my brain. Maybe its because I'm reading from the app.

But then again I wouldn't expect you to understand much of anything judging by the majority of your posts on this site.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
Wow ... you really are living up to the nickname you had in the Atrix forum. What was it again, "third rate troll"?

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] seh6183:
I'm not hijacking this guys thread anymore than we already have. If you want to argue with me (and be destroyed in every imaginable way) then go ahead and shoot me a pm.

To answer the original posters questions. Att can only send you warnings about tethering if they catch on. You can do things that wont raise any flags on their end such as using less data for less lengths of time.

A better alternanative would be to mask your device id. I'm not aware of any apps that can do it on Android but PDA net can do it for Apple. Maybe someone else can Chime in on an app.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
If you do tether, it was claimed in the Captivate forum that att sniff out the browser agent for Internet Explorer, so to avoid detection to use Google Chrome, or another browser.

But, if you haven't actually tethered I would start with a call to att customer service. If they flagged your account, you should be able to sort it out over the phone.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BarryH_GEG:
If tethering, either by device or plan feature, was specifically included in the plan you were grandfathered from you should be fine. If it wasn't specifically called out as included they'll charge you for the add-on. You can't grandfather something that didn't exist. In other words, if "unlimited data" didn't specifically apply to tethering and tethering as a feature was introduced afterward you'll have to pay for it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bigblue95z:
OP, are you using the stock GSII browser? If not, that could be the culprit. As stated above, they're basing it off the browser agent. Call and say you're using a market browser with Mozilla as browser agent. That should help your case later if they end up jerking you around.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BarryH_GEG:
They use heuristics to sniff packet data for suspect traffic. While it's not 100%accurate, they hold the cards and it's up to you to prove your innocence.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
No one knows what the new heuristics are - but something in your post-root non-tethering data usage probably set off a false positive.

Apparently a few others have had false positives and no one knows the true triggers. Good chance that mangling your browser useragent is one of them.

Call them and complain that you received a nastygram despite not attempting to tether after the app blocked it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] skelevate:
I have been using unlimited data for a few years. I tethered with my iphone. Used MyWi, and then PDAnet. I was contacted by them concerning my 'illegal' use of tethering.

A few weeks ago, I switched from the Iphone to the GSII. Rooted it, and almost IMMEDIATELY got a text message saying that tethering has been added to my contract and that I lost my unlimited data.

Am I screwed here? I don't think tethering existed when I signed my original contract with unlimited data.... Can I get this back?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgotti107:
I do apologize if anyone felt my OP was lengthy, but I was at work and I just wanted to cover all sides of the situation just in case I couldn't respond at the time.

I use the stock browser on Cognition to surf and stream to my video player, and Opera Mobile when downloading from Filesonic, etc.

I was mainly trying to get and idea of what might becausing the flag so I would know which route to go when I do call into ATT. I don't want to receive a bill in a month or so and have to battle them then. The tethering plan wasn't included in the grandfathered Unlimited data plan, but I actually did "abuse" it for a while with my Captivate before I got my DSL installed in my new apartment.

I was just thinking that this could have possibly been some sort of scare tactic on behalf of AT&T because of my current data usage, and it was a preemptive action to contain the abuse of their already spotty 4G network.

Also, I wanted myself and any others who have had this experience to control and prevent future occurrences.

I have a friend that works for Verizon wireless and he told me that he received information from a tech that when you call into the tech support, they can get some of the details of your current rom...and conclude whether or not you are rooted, etc...how true this is idk...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2 using the mind reader app...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgotti107:
Original email (just in case)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2 using the mind reader app...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] BarryH_GEG:
Wow. Is tethering only available as part of a specific DataPro package? If it's not available as a stand-alone option this is a really nasty and back-handed way to get people off grandfathered unlimited packages. That or to greatly reduce the network burden of tethering.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
I would say: both.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgotti107:
Exactly my point...the phone only came on the 2nd...there's no way I could've hit a data cap like that on my own to raise a flag in a mere 2 weeks...I don't have that kind of porn habit lol...not sure if it was something in the software...quite possible that it is something in the useragent of the browser...

But it feels like I'm getting bullied here...just want something concrete to fire back with.

EDIT: Came home from work and loaded up my laptop...remembered that in a drunken stupor I was up debating between a Slingbox adapter or a Logictech Revue...and I remember that I said eff it so I downloaded the Gmote and Unified Remote apps to connect to the server in my house via wifi and use my phone to control my media and browser through my TV. Could that have triggered the email? That was at approx 12-1am last night and I recieved the email on my way to work at 9:20 this morn
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mike619:
I just got that same email from them this morning.

I'm a little confused as to what their plan of action is. Do they plan to add a tethering plan at the end of the month w/out our consent if we don't contact them, or will everything stay the same if we stop tethering?

"If we don't hear from you, we'll plan to automatically enroll you into one of the above DataPro 4GB plans in an upcoming bill cycle."

but then towards the end of the email, they state:

"If you discontinue tethering by the end of this month, no changes to your current plan will be required."

Should i contact them or will i be fine if i stop tethering?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Rolex81:
Sounds to me if you don't contact them you going to get enrolled
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mike619:
I've seen a lot of these threads around different forums with plenty of people stating that they got the email, but not many of them following up whether or not their plans actually got changed or not.

Wondering how many people actually got their data plans changed or if the email is more of a warning/scare tactic.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] brent8577:
my mind was able to comprehend the op. if u didn't tether then don't let them bully u...I gave up unlimited left VZW and sprint. I have 10Meg cable and 2GB att that's enough
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vijovame:
People

Att has an app in our androids phones for switch apn when you are tethering, i got the sgs2 yesterday, rooted and installed unknown rom, then i installed apn manager from market and found something!!! Gtg did not took out the tethering Apn, i deleted all apns just leaving one att internet and one att mms because they was duplicated, att broadband was deleted, check for tethermanager.apk and delete if posible of not with apn delete is ok
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ngocdao:
they dont need your permission to provision on a service that youre using and not paying for. It's in your terms of service agreement. same as stealing cable..

People complain about slow speeds and complain about data caps-not realizing they coincide with each other?

Cmon, do you really need more than 4gb of mobile web/month? lol