yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Amaze 4G] hamza arbeed:
1+

50*2= 100

100 bucks
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
PLEDGE THREAD CREATED!

Alright guys... here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=22705847

Do NOT quote someone elses post. Simply post your contribution amount and any decent way to get around the 10 character limit. Be clean as well as creative.

Thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] ieftm:
Nobody said we don't want to help, but we have no Amaze.

Next to "being willing to help", exploit finding isn't exactly an exact science, you know.

"tried talking to them" ? You mean the 3 line IRC chat conversation I had with him, about him having an assorted collection of hboots for Amaze? Right.

I have mentioned this before:

Apparently the consensus seems to be that we 'dont care'.

Allow me to set some things straight:

1. Exploit finding is not an exact science. A new device means a new exploit. This takes time, and mostly, research.

2. You say 'you dont care' like we owe something to the community? We help in the best way that we can. You can't exactly say we haven't already given a hell of a lot to the community as-is. You make it sound like we leech off the community, or something.

3. No device means that it is extra hard to even develop. Remote access will only get you so far. Especially when you need to be extremely careful not to break it.
[HTC Amaze 4G] charlatan01:
Thanks ieftm;

If we donate via paypal via link, I assume that putting the device in the notes field is sufficient for making sure it goes towards an Amaze?

If we can nail the process down, we may be getting you guys a device in no time.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Bounty Thread? How can we get team Revo a device? NRG had a device within 72 hrs of a bounty being opened.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
@binary-----I'm willing to donate 30 toward a phone if the link can be set up.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
+1
[HTC Amaze 4G] ieftm:
Yes, but I would suggest not randomly donating for an Amaze device,

but instead somewhere to keep track, like a thread.

Besides that, I need to stress, a donation does not guarantee a S-OFF method/procedure within X days. It all comes down to research and time investment.

I have absolutely no desire to come across as greedy, so in that respect, I also want to stress that I/we will not be the ones organizing this, that would be silly.

If a loaner device is more appropriate, that is also fine with us. There are just two major buts: we're located in the EU (longer shipping for people in the US), and whoever arranges this may not have access to his/her phone for at least a month, perhaps more.

Might seem harsh, but that is reality, especially on these newer generation phones (with vastly improved security).
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Should I direct these and more to your donation link in your signature?
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
Everyone needs to pay attention to what he says about no ETA's. They really don't owe us anything. And if for some reason they can't make this happen after we donate then basically It's not a lose consider it support for all we get from XDA and the other devices we have owned that do have S-off.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Link is broken. I'm sure it will be up by Fri when I make my donation :)
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Click on the donate link in his signature.

That should work. The link that I posted was probably not valid because it's secure.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
Here's to moving forward.

To:IETFM for amaze device- S-off pledge

Confirmation number: 4BT61984XR324090K Donation made $34 us=25 euros
[HTC Amaze 4G] dharvey4651:
Now I've been a member here at XDA for a long time and I've owned 8 different HTC devices. This is a very simple choice for me. Up until now I have been able to unlock my devices and do with them whatever I damn well pleased. The Amaze 4G is the first HTC phone that I have had that I regretted buying for the simple fact that it's locked down like the one phone I swore I would never buy, the iPhone.

It's time to let the voices be heard. I've created a poll thread where I would like everyone to vote and explain their vote. Once I've received 500 votes, I will literally spam every public avenue HTC has with a direct link to the thread.

LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD!!

CLICK ME------> HTC and S-OFF. What do you think? <------CLICK ME
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Update!

I'm just going to copy and paste the PM and let you read for yourself.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
Nice...Now if we can get the rest. I may donate again this week.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
I hope to be able to donate again as well... if this coming week is even close to as busy as last week was for me, then I will for sure...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Another update just read the PM:

So if you want to donate money then click (or search) his username and click the link in his signature.

If you want to donate your device then contact him by PM to make the arrangements.
[HTC Amaze 4G] bangsters:
EDIT: thanks!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] LS1_01:
I recently got a new HTC Amaze 4G for T-Mobile that has SHIP S-OFF

What can one do with SHIP S-OFF on the HTC Amaze 4G?

Should one sell it to someone that could put it to good use for the community???
[HTC Amaze 4G] gypsy214:
sorry to go off-topic here guys

but sony things it is ilegal, remember what happened to geohot for hacking into the ps3!!

why it wont be easier to help get the device s-off when there are already some amaze that have s-off out of the box?

maybe htc its playing around with the devs

to work harder on obtaining that feature.

just a thought
[HTC Amaze 4G] lgtsanev:
I really don't see any purpose of your posting. There is an ENORMOUS difference between hacking a gaming console to play pirated games, and gaining s-off to be able, for example, to flash custom kernels through recovery, among other useful things. And the chance of someone getting a s-off device from the manufacturer is usually close to zero percent...
[HTC Amaze 4G] starskyrob:
There are dozens of reasons to hack a console other than to play pirated games. Backing up your legal games, homebrew apps, using Linux, adding features. It's much like rooting or jailbreak any device. Sure it can be used for illegal activity, but it's not the only reason. Please don't discredit the work of others before you trash it. Geohot is an amazingly talented kid who helped restore features to the ps3 that Sony took away (otherOS support.)
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Now we are talking PS3 in the S=off thread? C'mon guys
[HTC Amaze 4G] lonz358:
Lol
[HTC Amaze 4G] ursubpar:
[Idea for S-off]

Why not use this method of flashing a new Hboot on the amaze?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1547695

Use the same method but flash the ENG Hboot through emmc_recover to the Hboot partition on the amaze.

I don't have an amaze myself but anyone brave enough go give it a try.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dexter93:
there is a great chance that it wont be able to boot with the eng hboot. You will most likely get a brick that way. The eng hboot will make issues on a s on device
[HTC Amaze 4G] squish099:
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade here, but I don't think that either of those will be of help (i could be wrong, has happened a time or too before.). My understanding is that every device prior to the amaze the s-off flag was written in the radio/hboot partition. On the amaze the s-off and s-on hboot are identical and that the s-off flag is located on a different partition, possibly by the size and hex values written to that partition. Unfortunately even with the partitions diffs ran by X and binary neither could find the partitions or the flag, just some interesting differences in a couple partitions... But then again if we could flash all the partitions x dumped from his eng s-off device it might work. But I think his board was listed as something different then ours..
[HTC Amaze 4G] wadill:
I think our process over in dexters thread can work. If we were able to get it there. I'm no dev though and can't hex edit, but I think it can work.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dexter93:
You can't s off that way. S off isn't stored in hboot. You can use it to unbrick though...
[HTC Amaze 4G] wadill:
OK I know you know more about this than me... What I was thinking was possibly rewriting some partition and injecting it along with the hboot.

Just trying to throw around ideas. I definitely need to read through the trial and errors of finding the security flag on the amaze.

Dexter, would an eng hboot allow fast boot commands with s-on?? Or could injecting a hacked hboot allow it??
[HTC Amaze 4G] dexter93:
Nope. Not possible. None of the above. There are signature checks when you are s on.. if you managed to put there eng/custom hboot, the device wouldn't boot at all...
[HTC Amaze 4G] wadill:
OK forget that then.... What about finding what partition security flag is in and modifying that and then replace?? I know people have tried to identify that with no luck, but let's just say is it theoretically possible?

Just trying to think of a way seeing as we can write to emmc now.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xxquicksh0txx:
That's what they've been trying to do, I don't think they've been able to find it at all.

From what I've heard, they've compared a s-on, a ship s-off and a eng s-off they just can't find where it's at.

I imagine if they found it, it wouldn't take to long to get s-off.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I think I remember them saying there were significant differences between s=on devices as well... Let alone the differences between s=on and s=off devices.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xxquicksh0txx:
Yeah something about they weren't even consistent between s-on devices.

So who knows? If someone gets s-off on their phone, it may not work on everyone else's.

I'm just hoping they release our update soon, I'm fine with not having s-off right now. Just means I can't brick my phone.
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
what about smart_io.crd? has anyone gotten any further with that? I thought they were thinking that was the way to trick fastboot into being able to write to partitions, maybe I was misunderstanding, but Binary and mcs117 were going back and forth about it for a few posts...
[HTC Amaze 4G] MentalDeath:
I thought they didn't know how to create a smart_io.crd
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
they don't know how to get s-off either, both require trial/error/repeat 'til complete.. that's the name of the game here...

it's looking like the smart_io.crd method is the key though... but I guess we won't know until s-off is obtained somehow...
[HTC Amaze 4G] globatron:
In case anyone is subscribed to this thread rather than browsing:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1573491
[HTC Amaze 4G] garveygibbs:
Is this dead....seems like no one wants to ask...I will take the bullet
[HTC Amaze 4G] ickedmel:
Everything is dead bro.
[HTC Amaze 4G] EclipzeRemix:
Ehh for now every thing is slow..... For now...
[HTC Amaze 4G] neoissuperman:
Are we still needing donation's? I am thinking no since the beta is looking to be promising.... ?

Sent from something AMAZING!!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Fuses and Globaltron said no donations until it's released. They are still testing it on other devices before its released. Amaze community is so impatient.

I say it would be REALLY NICE if everyone that really needs s=off or more development should just sell/trade their amaze for something else. It's getting old reading all the whining and complaining. :banghead:
[HTC Amaze 4G] freakboy13:
Yeah recently read a post along the lines..."its been over a week and havnt heard anything...wtf....etc...etc.."

Its just a phone, every one can relax now....

Now if you'll Excuse me, I'm gonna go start an ics thread...
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
I don't think we will see a release of JuopunutBear until AFTER ICS is released, so that they can make it compatible with that hboot as well... so everyone should either sit tight, or get a new device if they are too impatient... seriously...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Marquis63:
Or you can Open up a Beer roflmao
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
interchangeable with "sit tight"... ie: that's what I meant... CHILL THE EFF OUT people... haha...
[HTC Amaze 4G] lonz358:
Check this out guys :) http://unlimited.io/

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G
[HTC Amaze 4G] Opentang:
Is this legit?
[HTC Amaze 4G] lonz358:
Hope so..this was posted on their twitter a few hours ago. https://mobile.twitter.com/JuopunutBear

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G
[HTC Amaze 4G] eggydrums:
Cool I guess this is almost out

Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[HTC Amaze 4G] zPacKRat:
You want s-off before updating hboot, just in case HTC figured out the exploit. S-off should stick post update.
[HTC Amaze 4G] krook6023:
...website is real..can't wait.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Shadow Samurai:
I'm staying s on for now until ics officially gets released
[HTC Amaze 4G] a.benjamin76:
Is the only main difference between S-off and root with bootloader unlocked just the fact that s-off can flash radios as well? Can you over/underlock with either s-off or root with boot unlocked? i know you can remove bloatware with just the root and s-off but my deciding factor is wether i can over/underclock. the radios arent that big an issue to me. Thanks guys
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
Using the search function would have answered this question for you. S-OFF is a protective measure to prevent a user from flashing radios or potentially bad ROMs/.zips that could brick the device. S-OFF has nothing to due with under/overclocking a device, never has actually. Root/sudo/su allows you to do these and many other functions, I suggest you search those two terms and read as much as you can before you brick your device. The search function/bars are in the upper right hand corners and google(74.125.224.243;74.125.228.100 just to name a few) to find even more.
[HTC Amaze 4G] a.benjamin76:
i searched for for a couple hours last night and on google, i just didnt go through all 53 pages of the thread. ive killed an hd2 and brought it back to life and done everything in between to it. ****, done all that to a bionic too. so i have been finding as much as i can about this new device before i do work on it. been researching since i got this phone 2 weeks ago thank you very much.
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheCrow1372:
Sorry for stupid questions ahead of time:o cuz I'm new to HTC again went to Samsung for awhile, I had the Incredible S for 2-3yrs but a but rusty now plus it's a bit different now so can my Amaze 4G/ICS-4.0.3 all factory be S-OFF'd now and do I need to root first also which methods are the best for rooting and s-off just don't want any mistakes cuz this is my daily driver?

Thanks
[HTC Amaze 4G] scattaman:
Its funny how I've unlocked, rooted and S-Off my phone.. ALL from reading the stickies ON THE FRONT PAGE. I've not asked a single question because everything you need to know is right there.

Sigh, I have given up on the human race

Links:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1536617

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1679486
[HTC Amaze 4G] gravis86:
No. They are totally different things.
[HTC Amaze 4G] nixxofugi:
Goldcard Method

Has anyone attempted to flash these zips with a goldcard yet? just curious. maybe it'll allow us to get s-off on our phones.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xboarder56:
Maybe but i dont think that will work
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
Ok.

This is the first time since I owned a G1, that I have owned an HTC device.

I have seen this "goldcard" term used a lot in HTC circles. Can someone explain, or point me in the direction of an explanation, of what sorcery this is?
[HTC Amaze 4G] TheSneakerWhore:
It's a low APR, moderate interest credit device that allows you to buy goods and services when you are strapped for cash.

\srry

\\had too

:D
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
That was supposed to end with, "But that's not important now...", a la "Airplane".

However, the judges have chosen to accept your entry as well... :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] candre23:
Basically you would extract a code from your phone, use either a program or website app to do "something" to it, then use a hex editor to re-insert the modified code into a file on a specially prepared SDcard. Booting the phone with this card inserted would magically unlock (s-off?) your phone, allowing you to get permanent root and easily flash new ROMs.

I tried the goldcard method a few times on my G2, but I could never get it to work. It was a pretty lengthy process, and I'm sure I just messed up one of the dozens of steps.
[HTC Amaze 4G] devcurious:
We started talking about it is this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1319013

Although I haven't tried it, I can't imagine that HTC didn't close this "hole". This dates back to the Hero. It looks like, once the MT3G Slide it the market, this didn't work anymore.

Can't say I'm happy about that.

Just can't find any examples, on teh internets, of it working on anything including, and after, the MT3G Slide.

EDIT:

It appears that this only works on devices that have both a stock Gingerbread and Froyo ROM. The Gingerbread ROM is exploited with the "goldcard", which allows a downgrade to a Froyo ROM. The Froyo ROM is then the one that is actually used to S-OFF the device.
[HTC Amaze 4G] JaiaV:
Goldcard does not work.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Bigv69er:
What if someone does a rom manager back up of their whole phone?

and then we download it, temp root, then apply the back up from rom manager??

would that copy that unit?? or just their rom
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
I don't think that you could flash recovery without S-OFF or Unlocked.

Anything in / or /system directory except for /cache and /data gets reverted after a reboot.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Bigv69er:
true

forgot about that..

there has to be something in the shipped s-off

that can be extracted.. so we can use..
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
So who has tried

write_hboot_image PACKAGE:hboot.img

command from recovery?

or

adb shell
mount /sdcard
write_hboot_image PACKAGE:/sdcard/hboot.img
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
For the daring

Anyone care to try to flash this from recovery?

I have a theory... ;)

Basically while looking at the update to .6 that we received there was a file called firmware.zip and the ~9mb was packed inside.

SO... what IF the spl looks for a zip called firmware.zip in the update?

Again... just a theory.

I added a second one called S-OFF_Updater_for_1365316-signed.zip just in case it checks your software version. In this case the 1.36.531.6 update.

Hoping that this will give us the ENG 1.90.2005 S-OFF.

By the way... I'm not liable for any damages which may occur however if this does work then naturally I'll take credit. :p
[HTC Amaze 4G] Bigv69er:
lmao haha i laughed so hard... I'm not liable if it breaks.. but if it works.. then yes ill take all the credit... hahaha

someone try it!!!!

but wouldn't just give it a custom firmware number??
[HTC Amaze 4G] nixxofugi:
I tried this, and it said "invalid operation - success - rebooting by reason oem-00"
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Success?

Do you have s-off?
[HTC Amaze 4G] nixxofugi:
No. No luck
[HTC Amaze 4G] Bigv69er:
awwww
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Did you try both?

I guess I'm all out of ideas. :(
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
WAIT A MINUTE!

Part of unlocking the bootloader was flash the Unlock_code.bin file. Right?

What IF we can edit that file .bin file and run the command (fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin (or something similiar) to get S-OFF. It's not a big file at all. I opened it with a HEX editor and couldn't make sense of anything. Perhaps it needs to be decompiled. I dunno. I'm just digging blind here for ideas.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xboarder56:
ya that would be the way to go i think
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Any word from the Revolutionary team?
[HTC Amaze 4G] xboarder56:
no havnt talk with them much either though

they have to find a new exploit old one was patched
[HTC Amaze 4G] Bigv69er:
will you be trying it?
[HTC Amaze 4G] gaww:
Was that patch the one in the OTA? If so, would those that did not apply the patch still have the exploit?
[HTC Amaze 4G] xboarder56:
No but be careful with otas becuase they could make it impossible to s off if we do find exploit
[HTC Amaze 4G] 2sh0rt:
I popped in their irc channel and asked if their was any word on whether they would try to s-off the Amaze or not and they kicked me lol.... so is that a YES or NO? rofl... those guys :/
[HTC Amaze 4G] gaww:
They had a setup for the European Amaze 4g (similar hardware, processor, etc) but have pulled it. Guess an OTA killed it for them also.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
I edited the first post with a note to let you all know that I've noticed that this is largest and most informative thread regarding the S-OFF Q&A and progress. So I've moved this thread to the General section and closed the other three that have been posted. I had also stuck this so that everyone will be able to find it. If anyone posts another S-OFF thread then it will get deleted!

Thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] alx294:
making a NANDroid doesnt backup HBoot does it? If it did couldnt we just flash someones S-OFF backup? sorry if i sound like a complete idiot, but it helped bootunlock my last phone, so i figured it would be worth a shot.
[HTC Amaze 4G] JaiaV:
I've tried flashing the hboot.img every single way I can think of. The bootloader is writelocked, even if you have root.
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
Maybe the bootloader isn't locked? Maybe it is like the Iconia and has an encryption on it that has to be checked like a MD5 or something. Here's a link that may help if this is the case. >>> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1121543
[HTC Amaze 4G] alx294:
what i meant was that we flash their nandroid, and if we made a nandroid on this phone if it would backup hboot or not, sorry im new to htc phones
[HTC Amaze 4G] JaiaV:
Can't flash or make a nandroid without recovery, and cannot have a customer recovery on an HTC phone that is S-ON (without unlocking the bootloader the 'official' way and voiding your warranty, which is still S-ON and cannot be made S-OFF so far even after recovery has been installed).

If I'm not mistaken the Iconia was a bit of a special case. Aside from the SBK needed to flash the encrypted recovery through NVFLASH (the best and sometimes only method of flashing recoveries on Tegra devices, where the recovery/bootloader are encrypted as they are written), there is a secondary encryption protecting the device's recovery also that prevented NVFLASH from working even with the SBK. If the Amaze's bootloader is encrypted, we have a whole mess of trouble trying to get S-OFF at that point.
[HTC Amaze 4G] daswahnsinn:
it was a thought, I just didn't see anything new so I posted something that confused others to spark an idea. I'm not much of a developer but I do understand some but this is not a straight forward device.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ajbk4life1:
I need help should I wait till S-Off or should I just root now. I really want to get rid of bloatware. I don't care about warranty because I have asurion insurance. Should I root now ?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Digitaldreamer7:
A little Off topic, but, as I was reading through this thread I noticed that in the first picture someone named Kari Morton has her whole number from a GV mailbox posted on the internet. IDK if it even matters, just something I noticed. Great work so far. I've been tooling with it myself but nothing worth sharing at the moment.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
No it doesn't.

If you have insurance then you have nothing to fear. The odds of you messing up your device is far greater if you have S-OFF than if you have an unlocked bootloader. So even if we do get S-OFF then you might need your insurance if your not careful. ;)

I'll take a look and see if I can edit that out. Thanks!

EDIT: Done! I took care of it. Thanks again!
[HTC Amaze 4G] ajbk4life1:
Well thank you Binary for the great explanation. Guess I will root.
[HTC Amaze 4G] alx294:
So wait, some phones ship with s-off? is it just luck?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Yes on a rare occasion a phone will be shipped with S-OFF. Usually the phones that are bought prior to the official release but not always.