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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
I understand if you're used with SD card with phones support it.

But I don't understand how the Nexus S owners keep complaining about the lack of SD slot.

Nexus S doesn't have it either. If it's such a big deal, why are you still owning a Nexus S?

And the megapixel complain, it's not 2003 now. It just show how uneducated one is when he brings up ONLY 5MP.

Lastly the people who bashes the Google engineers who developed the phone. If you are so freaking smart how about you go apply a job @ Google and give us something better? Yet keep it in your dream.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cool Cake:
Unless you plan on blowing your picture past 11X16, then the size of the chip shouldn't be an issue.

I think the less than 1 sec shutter lag more than makes up for the reduction in MP's
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Xevilious:
It's no surprise that Google is leaving SDcards out of its Nexus phones. They want all data to end up in their cloud. To a true Google purist, physical storage is superfluous, and I'm ok with that. Given Google Music, Picassa, etc..., there's not much I can see actually loading onto my phone outside of apps.

As far as the Galaxy Nexus is concerned (should have called it Nexus Prime), I'll pass. I have far too long on my Nexus S contract remaining, and it will get ICS eventually anyway. I'll wait around for the next Nexus phone and hope it's Moto or HTC.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] davewuvswaffles:
Too bad we all don't have unlimited data to take advantage of.

Those were the days... :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
I maybe the rare one who actually prefer Samsung made phones.

Their screen tech is unmatched.

Unless Moto or HTC has a better screen than Samsung's, I'll always prefer Samsung.

I compared my friend's Sensation with my Nexus S. I just can't stand the LCD anymore on a phone. For me it will only be SAMOLED or Retina display.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] taxas:
im am a bit worried about the sgx 540 on the galaxy nexus as well. However i think what Google can do to increase performance for games on the phone is to change resolution while playing games.

For example when you launch lets say 9mm or any other heavy game the screen will change to the standard 800 x 640 resolution or something else, that way there will be less load on the GPU and higher FPS for smoother game play. Another thing that came to my mind is the trick Dice used on BF3 for the consoles. By adding a couple of black lines which makes the game run just under 720p. Games runs at 1280 x 704 cutting 16 horizontal lines short of true 720p but run at a smooth FPS.

Another thing that can be done is that games can be rendered at a lower resolution and then up-scaled to 720p also a console trick that is used in Halo games and call of duty

What do you guys think?

Note: This stuff is only advice if the galaxy nexus is not performing good at games and lags. If it doesn't lag then there is no need however the BF3 trick is a genius move compared to up-scale.

note2: post is similar on another thread that i posted
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pastuch:
You guys want to talk about SUB-PAR hardware... Imagine if they put that horrible piece of crap Yamaha dac from the SGS2 into the Galaxy Nexus!

I use my phone as an MP3 player at least 20 hours per week and the Yamaha DAC is making me hate my SGS2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] psycho2097:
what audio chip does the gn have? i hope 2 god its the woftsson....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alexiseurope:
Hahaha hilarious!!!

Wait... Are you serious?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] koszor:
i read a review of the g-nex GPU, they claimed that it was the same GPU as in the optimus 3D just clocked higher

if that GPU can handle a 3D device, it should be fine inside the G-NEX

also, it is the same gpu within the fascinate, which i currently use

i have no complaints with my fascinate which is why the gnex's GPU doesnt 'really' bother me, only kinda lol

as far as the sd card and battery (its not removable correct?)

yea, it sucks. but as phones evolve, so must I and its something i guess im going to have to live with =/ oh well

im hoping, that the phone has great hardware acceleration, because with that optimization the hardware can work its best

also, one more thing this phone is a nexus phone, (duh)

it just makes sense to me that google put alot of thought and effort into the device and with that in mind, im not worried
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] taxas:
You know that the galaxy nexus has to move a lot more pixels right?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier Blue:
In all honesty, the only good thing about the Nexus Prime is the screen and metal body construction.

ICS is a non-factor since you can put it on a Nexus S or SGS II. For anyone on this site, that certainly shouldn't matter one bit unless you absolutely MUST HAVE features that are possible - for the most part - with custom roms already just a few weeks quicker than everyone else.

The hardware has the looks from the outside (body, screen) but the inside is anemic.

Note, I already have a Nexus S which I got this summer as a temporary phone until the Nexus Prime.

GPU - PowerVR540, same GPU as my current phone? wtf? 50% mhz increase might put it on par with Mali-400 but that just makes it competitive with WVGA phones. At 720p it's actually going to result in a worse experience/fps, let alone an improved one. I don't want to imagine how bad 3D games on this will be.

CPU - Okay, so it's not a Cortex A8 derivative like the Snapdragon S3 but its probably going to be on par with the Hummingbird in IPC which is Cortex A9. I doubt it will match the Exynos, though they could have given it parity with a default 1.5ghz clock speed - which is supposed to be the default of the 4460. This means that battery life took a hit. The only 'advantage' of the OMAP versus Exynos is a dedicated HD video decoder unit resulting in better battery life for video playback.

Cameras - The SGS II camera was, more or less, 2nd best on the market. The current iPhone 4S camera trails just slightly behind but bests it in low light video and sound capture - so for all practical purposes, ties with the SGS II. How does the Nexus Prime compare? I don't know but from what I saw it didn't impress me much. Fast capture and panoramas is irrelevant to me. I'd rather have top image quality since I don't ever plan on using a point and shoot or dSLR. And sadly, I was expecting 1080p@60fps this time around :(

microSD - wtf, seriously. My Nexus S has 16gb and its pretty easy to fill up most of it once I transfer a small portion of my lossless music library to it (using phone as PMP is a big deal to me). If it had a better camera, I would do tons of video recording. And I already eat up plenty of space by automatically recording all phone calls. 16gb + 32gb microsd would be ideal.. sadly..

I dunno what to say. I quite like the design of the SGS II and only lament the plastic materials and lack of HD screen. The SGS II LTE HD / HD fix one of those, and arguably the only true hands-down killer feature that Nexus Prime has over it. I really like the metal materials and even think the design of the Nexus Prime is good (unlike my slippery soap bar Nexus S). But I don't think I would take that over superior SoC/Camera/microSD really.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] psycho2097:
food for thought-

nexus s released with the exact same hardware as the galaxy s(released 1 yr b4 it). same hummingbird soc, same gpu, same ram, etc etc.it was the time when there were phones like the atrix around. extremely dissapointing. but even now the nexus s is one of the highest benchmarked, best performing phones around. reason? not hardware, but software. google is a huge and vastly successful company,as is samsung, no doubt. there are brains inside google that retards like the "nexus haters" cant even grasp the height of. when they build a phone, they build one on which they can apply all the optimizations and improvements that they possibly can; they know, that by the time they are done with the GN, they will have extracted 100% out of it. Samsung on the other hand , will be hard pressed to deliver ics+tw, u would be a fool to expect them 2 integrate all the optimizations that google comes up with, every time. stop looking at benchmarks. samsung wont even be able to harness 60% the power of the mali400, let alone 100%. look at galaxy tab 10.1 n xoom. nexus s n galaxy s.

BECAUSE GOOGLE MAKES ANDROID, NOT SAMSUNG.

If they think its best to use 4460 instead of exynos,it is.

If they think it is best not 2 use sdcard, it isnt. (i dont agree with it tho)

If they think its best to include sgx540, then it is. trust me, they know what they are doing. They know that gs2 has mali400, and almost all games released in the future will be tested to run on the GN. So if they think that clocking it at 384 will outperform mali400, who r u 2 argue??????????????

So in the end , if you are really sure that samsung will optimize the gs2 2 its full potential, will give out updates every month, and your gs2's tw infested hardware will save your ass for the next 2 years, then go ahead, bash GN all you like.

Because, truthfully, its not GN vs GS2 at all, its what you "think" vs what all the designers @google+samsung THINK is best.

PERIOD.

sent from my tablet,NOT AN IPAD!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] psycho2097:
i pity you.you will be "sad" even at the same time next year.

because either u have superhuman eyes that can actually discern images @more than 16fps(limit of human eye), or you are just trolling ,or you have no idea what a "phone" is.

Or worse, u r an apple fanboy.

sent from my tablet,NOT AN IPAD!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dhiral.v:
Agreed, and that's what made me get the nexus S. My only gripe is the lack of SD card which I hate, but other than that, it's an awesome device. I can get quadrant scores on my nexus S that beat the crap out of the galaxy s2, I really don't think the exynos is better than the OMAP 4460.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] veyka:
Exynos has a better gpu on paper, powervr 540 is still a powerful gpu, time will tell how it deals with the high resolution screen.

Powervr also has better game compatability, more devs build versions for there specific shaders.

The cpu in the OMAP and the exynos should be very similar, both A9's at the same clock speed with the NEON fpu (which tegra2 lacks).

Tegra 3 won't be out for a while, and the A15 isn't ready yet.

Also the gn has enough ram (which the gpu shares), having enough vram is important.

It's odd thinking that phones almost have the same resolution as desktop monitors!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bcpk:
The supposed "limit of the human eye" that you are referring to is 60 fps*, which is the framerate he wanted. Not 16 fps, which is an animated GIF.

* in reality, people can easily notice a difference at greater than 100 fps, but 60 fps is pretty good most of the time
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] psycho2097:
human eye cant discern more than 16 frames per sec in a video. thats scientific.more fps is just for action scenes, esp in movies. 60fps is for slo mo videos. ps- i m talking about videos, home videos, even maximum possible action shots shot with your "phone". not games. just videos.

sent from my tablet,NOT AN IPAD!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slowz3r:
people cant be pleased, if it launched with a quadcore, everyone would just moan about how it isnt a hexacore
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] psycho2097:
sorry i stand corrected. i got confused with the fact that we can actually discern frames below 16fps. 16fps n above constitutes minimum smooth video. my bad.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tomergg:
The humane eye can see in 50Hz.

This will be relevant to flickering light (florescent, CRT monitors).

Any flickering light below 100Hz will be annoying.

The humane brain can analyse 12 FPS.

Anything over 24 Fps will look like smooth motion.

It's two separate parameters.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FishTaco:
I am not a hater, but I am a Certified Player and I will be getting the G-Nexus on launch day. While some will be running benchmarks, I will be entertaining the ladies.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] psycho2097:
+1 muchacho.

sent from my tablet,NOT AN IPAD!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KWKSLVR:
You know, for a bunch of people that whine, ***** an moan about the Galaxy S line's "build quality" and "cheap feel", I have to wonder how many actually own one and what kind of condition the phone is in? I'm not the only one that has had a SGS since day 1 that is still in essentially mint condition. No scratches, dings, etc. I can't count how many HTC's I've seen that seem to fall apart on their own.

Android users have to be the only people that will pick up a phone, play with it, hate the "build quality", buy it anyway, ***** about the build quality despite the phone being completely intact. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tjtj4444:
24fps is definately not smooth, this is very easy to test for yourself. For example connect your computer to your TV (unless your normal monitor supports 24hz of course) and test 24hz and then move some windows around, then change to 60Hz and do the same.

(In this case Hz and fps are the same since the computer will update the GUI with same fps as the display refresh rate).

In fact not even 60 fps/Hz is perfect, 120HZ gives an even smoother experience and allows shorter response time, this is important for a touch screen interface. My guess is that iPhone will be the first to transition to 120Hz, but this might not be for iphone 5.

Also check this:

http://www.boallen.com/fps-compare.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Old specs? why does it matter?

hey all,

I have no idea if the cpu/gpu inside this phone are good(as I understand the gpu is from 2010 but clocked twice as fast?), but from what i've read they are ''outdated''. well this might be true but seriously are there any apps/games in the market/app store that actually uses the full power of of a modern gpu/duel core cpu? because actually most if not all of the top games are the fun acrade-cartoonish style games that just doesnt use all the power. they can run on a nexuse one for that matter..

so please enlighten me why it does is such a problem for a lot of people.

p.s

and I just don't belive in the statment that ''in the future you'll regeret you didnt buy a better phone''. I mean seriously, no way android 5.0(one+ years from now) will be sluggish on a modern(to this date) duel core cpu.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jxs1984:
after reading this http://www.arctablet.com/blog/archos-tablet/archos-g9-review-benchmark-archos-101-g9-1-ghz/ (this tablet is pushing 1280x800)

i think it's safe to say the higher clocked gpu in the galaxy nexus will be decent.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hefonthefjords:
You guys do realose that pretty much every cinematic production ever is filmed at 24fps right? It is only later rescanned at 60fps. I imagine a lot of modern productions are now filmed at much higher framerates on digital equipment but even so, 24 frames a second is adequate for smooth motion video. Anything above this will just result in further smoothing of that video. I personally find that video over 60fps looks ****ty. Even tvs that upscale to 100fps give me the boke because they make big production movies look like daytime tv.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hefonthefjords:
I thought i should also post some insight into this cpu/gpu combination since i have the oprimus 3d.

The 4460 cpu is exactly the same as the optimus 3d's except clocked .5ghz higher. This will probably make some difference but honestly its so fast anyway that its sort of irrelevant. The gpu which is exactly the same, is solid. This phone has dedicated hdmi out and the gpu has no problem rendering full 1080p 3d video over it so i really dont see it breaking a sweat at all running a 720p display om a device.

I hope this will ally some of you guyses fears. Im expecting the GN to be a really solid device with that hardware config. I am however also a little dissapointed at the lack of sd card but its a sacrifice i might be willing to live with if the rest of the device is THAT good.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tung_meister:
Don't forget that the GPU in the 4460 is also clocked at a higher speed (384mhz vs the 304mhz in the 4430 that's in the Optimus 3D) so it definitely shouldn't have any issues especially now that there's system wide hardware acceleration meaning the CPU Has to do less. With the CPU being underclocked to 1.2Ghz from the 1.5Ghz I'm sure with custom kernels we'll easy see speeds in excess of 1.7Ghz maybe even more.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] veyka:
24fps for movies is more about human perspective rather than technology, as you said, daytime tv moved to higher fps first, thus we all now get the feeling that anything filed higher is like a soap rather than a serious film, for this reason, rather than anything else most films have stuck to 24fps, though with 3D stuff it need to be filmed at higher fps, as it has to display two whole images.

Humans are weird.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dhiral.v:
I think people would still complain if it came out with a quad core CPU and 1080p display. People would still find something to ***** about.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tjtj4444:
24 fps is not smooth in a user interface, this is very easy to test, that is why this urban legend that 24fps is enough is so ennoying.

For example there is a power saving feature in SGS2 (in recent upgrade) that when activated (user setting of course ) limits the refresh rate to 30fps for the GUI, it looks terrible.

Almost all movies are recorded in 24 fps because that is the standard that all cinemas can handle (used since 1920's...). And a professional movie photographers make sure to use a small aperture when recording the movie so fast moving scenes are a bit blurry, this removes most of the stuttering feeling from 24hz, but of course you loose a lot of detail.

But even if you think 24hz is enough for a movie, that experience is still not applicable for modern touch user interface.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kanariya:
people just whine about everything.

-too thin

-too light

-too big

-plastic

-pentile

-cpu

-gpu

-ics

-ugly

-sdcard

-curved glass

-gorilla glass

-no siri

-no retina display

-face unlock gimmick

-BT 3.0

-not dual mode cdma/gsm

-doesn't make coffee

-no carbon fiber

-metal body construction

-then too heavy

-and the list goes on

haters will keep hating and whiners will keep whining
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] koszor:
i own a fascinate, with a screen protector i got at a local mall called "ghost armor"

it is lightweight, and feels fine in the hand

its also very thin and overall i enjoy it

mines mint with only notable scratches on the back (a new back cover is 10 on amazon)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Flippy125:
I can't believe the 24 fps myth is still going around from the early days of pc gaming. I notice a huge difference running a game at 60 fps compared to 24. Maybe I'm just magic
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nesx87:
gsmarena lists the galaxy nexus as having fm radio, is that true?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] loki993:
Korean Galaxy SII:

1.5

LTE

4.5 inch screen

Basically beats the Nexus in every category. I cant find what processor its using, but still.

They seemed to get it to work there.

I think they just hate us lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jaykresge:
A lot of people keep referring to the SGX540 as being from 2007, which is not true (blame an erroneous Wikipedia entry for that). That may be when it went into development, but it didn't even hit silicone until LATE 2008! It wasn't used in any shipping products until 2010. Finally, the version out now is a much higher clocked version than the 2010 variant. They should have just named it something else to avoid confusion (like in here).

The current PowerVR SGX540 is a very capable GPU. The only GPU out now that is heads and shoulders above it is the SGX543 (which isn't even listed on that erroneous Wikipedia entry). No, the Mali400 is not heads and shoulders over the 540. While the Mali has outstanding fill-rate, it has atrocious geometric performance.

Hey, the Xbox 360 was in development since about 2002. Even though it shipped in 2005, we should start telling people it came out in 2002!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SomeGuyDude:
Gotta love the rumor mill. I'd bet dollars to donuts once this thing lands everyone that test drives it is gonna rave.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SwiftLegend:
The camera only being 5 MP kinda bothers me, but it's apparently the same one used in the GS2 and Galaxy Note, if I remember correctly, and they are both take nice pictures though. Would've liked to see a 4470 in there instead and of course a Super AMOLED HD Plus or whatever it's called.

Been thinking about trying to buy this, and maybe the Razr off contract, then switching between the 2. All depends on the money though..

I can deal with the processor and screen though, because I'll probably try picking up the TF 2 has well...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Melon_Bread:
It may be just me, but I see no real major flaw with this phone hardware wise. if you do not like the specs then just wait a few months and you will find one with the ones you want. All I am reading is just little nit picking
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] KWKSLVR:
Indeed, everyone is an expert on an OS that no one has even seen the source code for. :rolleyes:

There's a reason why Google went with OMAP. There's a reason why they optimized ICS for OMAP. OMAP is nice to battery life in comparison to, well, everything else (bear in mind, this is a chipset that is being underclocked from 1.5GHz to 1.2GHz). OMAP plays well with graphics. People can whine about the graphics selection all they want, but the damn thing runs Desktop PC's and 3D content on millions of devices already.

Google optimized ICS for THIS device running THIS combination of hardware. The latest and greatest spec'd hardware isn't necessarily the BEST hardware to display ICS to the consumer if there are other trade offs that make the overall experience lackluster.

As an example, if the damn thing was spec'd out like a Ferrari then 12 hours after release day everyone would be *****ing over battery life. Google isn't stupid and the fact that so many people think their idea about this and that is better or superior just screams ignorance.

All this time since the release of the Nexus One and people still don't get it. Go buy an SGSII. There's nothing wrong with it. Go buy an Amaze, or an Incredible 2 or an EVO 4G. Grab up a Bionic or a Charge, there's nothing wrong with any of those phones. Some have better "specs" than the Galaxy Nexus in certain regards. Most of them will probably get ICS....eventually. Who knows if they'll get the next major version of Android, well, other than the Galaxy Nexus of course.

Nexus devices are about pure ANDROID. Other devices are about that manufacturer's take on Android. Nexus devices clearly aren't for everyone (I'd say they aren't right for about 90% of XDA). Go buy a different phone. Pick one that you like. Wear your spec's like a Redneck wears his name on his belt buckle, and a year from now, when your spec's are irrelevant and your carrier doesn't pay your manufacturer to upgrade your device, don't whine about it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slowz3r:
this right here
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] [c]K:
Biggest bummers:

GPU of course, being the same as the NS which is kinda disappointing... hopefully the faster clock speed might save it.

Gorilla Glass, would have been nice, but probably yet impossible on a Contour screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ArmedandDangerous:
The hell are you talking about? The human eye can see way more than 16 GPS. Gosh. Try playing a game at 16 fps and tell me you don't notice any difference playing at 60.

Sent from pure meXdroidRom!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Serious_Beans:
Werd, this is so true, you said everything I was thinking.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kromem:
Apparently it does have Gorilla Glass:

http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus/431920-gorilla-glass.html#post3349338
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kromem:
His point was in reference to the complaints that it doesn't record at 1080p@60fps....

Where did you get 24hz from???
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pukemon:
The nokia N9 has gorilla glass and that screen is really curvy.

I voided my warranty and your mum.