yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] aznchillin:
i keep getting voodoo sound saying "convert system partition, system is not available" any ideas?
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] The Pope of Dope:
You forgot to check your mounts. If you did check them your forgot to quadruple check them. Sorry bro. Flash with odin. Root. and Try re flashing.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] aznchillin:
I see what you're talking about... Thank You very much.
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Reviewers:
I won't be updating this rom anymore as I'm coming out with LRV2
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Undeadk9:
Ayoteddy just released a deodexed rom for you to kang revolution. :D
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Reviewers:
I knew KJ2 came out for a while now & i'll be using it as a base & giving credit's to him . Stop calling me a kanger man it's getting annoying now .
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] Undeadk9:
Definition of kanging- to use someone elses work with or without permission and posting it as there own. You fit that profile :D
[T-Mobile Sidekick 4G] :
why not use the other un flashable rom as a base? so u can odexed it urself to stop him rom calling you a cheat
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Ryno_666:
Will there ever be aosp for flyer?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Funny, I was just wondering this a few minutes ago. As cool as sense is, It lags like a sob. I sure hope it will, HTC devices usually get CM7 support so we'll see. But until we get that US RUU I'm not flashing anything.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] WhiteCyclone:
I doubt there will be an AOSP build because it will lack the stylus integration on the Flyer.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Curious what you see lag on. The Flyer currently has the fastest processor of any tablet on the market. I find the Flyer to be very snappy. Most of Sense is just in the HTC launcher and associated widgets. You are free to use any of the 3rd party launchers instead and there are some very good ones out there like ADW EX, GO Launcher, and Launcher Pro Plus. The stock android launcher on GB is a real dog meaning very vanilla and ugly. CM7 Uses ADW instead of stock GB launcher. The stock HC launcher is not bad. The HC browser is a lot better than the GB too..

If you feel Sense is slowing you down, don't use it and use one of the 3rd party launchers instead. You can even use one of the home switcher utilities to switch between HTC sense and a different launcher on the fly and have totally different looks. The Flyer has plenty of memory so that's not a concern.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Ryno_666:
Maybe just a way to remove sense it doesn't allow use of my bluetooth keyboard or my Zeemote. The alternative is to make work around with Aosp but the later is harder.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Hummm, which keyboard do you have. Sense really has nothing to do with keyboards, that is built into Android. My bluetooth keyboard works fine with the stock Flyer. I have a HP keyboard and an Apple keyboard, both work great. As far as the remote, the functions would need a keymap , which is probably doable.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Where does it lag? Well, where do I start? :D Let’s take a look at the home screens. The widgets are down right beautiful, no denying that, but when scrolling through home screens you’ll notice lag as the widgets auto update, not a completely fluid experience. I know I could always do without those widgets or leave those home screens blank but I shouldn’t have to. Paginated scrolling is another PITA, I realize what it does by design but it makes navigating choppy nonetheless. The scrolling view isn’t much better and resets itself on restart.

I’ve also run ADW-Ex on my flyer but it’s still not as fluid as I like. I think my Bionic is to blame for that though, it fly’s by comparison. I’m no Android newb and I know a thing or two about system tweaks. There’s no question that AOSP ROMs are faster and lighter than sense ROMs. The sense framework is deep rooted and heavy, hence the 300MB ROMs versus the sub 100MB aosp ROMS.

I’m not banging on sense, I’ve owned an Inspire 4G and Thunderbolt so I knew what I was getting myself into. Sense 3.0 is a better experience overall compared to 2.1 but for me the novelty wears off after a couple of days, with the exception of the lock screen, which is insanely polished. On my sense devices I’ve run every ROM and kernel imaginable and always ended going completely CM7 or a de-bloated and de-sensed ROM.

I’m willing to live with sense, because after all I did buy this tablet but AOSP would be welcome. I'm hoping these issues I've experienced will be stomped out when HC is released. Fingers crossed.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Well I think the sense widget behave pretty typically of android widgets.

It's always a trade off between data and battery usage and background update or on demand update. Vanilla ROMs will run faster perhaps, but doing what? If you are content with basic email and browsing then its fine, but once you load it up with apps and widgets, pretty much the same with less functionality (there is not a decent email widget on the market, for example).

After all, Sense or vaniila it's built on android and it is what it is. Not saying android is bad, its very good, but its built for limited hardware (compared to any laptop or PC) and there are trades to make things work in that environment. The HC browser is a big improvement and down the road Chrome is coming.

I think HTC has themselves in a bind though because of Sense's tight integration with underlying android data structures it slows their ability to roll out software updates. Of course the advantage is that Sense widgets often do what no 3rd party apps can do.

---------- Post added at 11:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:00 AM ----------

Oh, and to answer the original post.

There is no reason why a motivated developer could not compile a AOSP vanilla Gingerbread ROM for the Flyer right now. Gingerbread source is available and HTC kernel source is available, so it is certainly doable if anyone desires to take on the project. But in most cases extra performance doesn't come from AOSP, it comes from custom kernels where the developer has fine tuned the kernel to the specific hardware for better performance, battery life, enable additional hardware features, etc.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
I disagree with sense simply being an overlay, its more of an overhaul. Take a look at the framework and jars, sense is everywhere. That's why many sense ports to other devices have failed. It's more than just widgets and a launcher. It's built on Android but it's not like touchwiz or blur.

While I do agree that the kernel is a major factor the sense ui and its widgets are clunkier. I'll take a loaded aosp rom over a loaded sense rom in a speed test any day.

There is a downside to aosp, it's boring.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] cnewsgrp:
My 2 cents on the topic:

AOSP for Flyer will only be available after ICS - probably 8-10 months from now.

I agree that aosp is boring and I don't find sense at all slow. I like updating widgets and notifications.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
Maybe I shouldn't say "slow ", more like "slow-ish" :)
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
I expect as more and more of the unique features from sense find their way into base android like they have in Honeycomb and ICS, that HTC will extract themselves from the frame work mods since the widgets can accomplish most of the same things without all that interaction. When android first appeared it basically did nothing and so HTC wrote sense which made their phones a lot more attractive than say the original Moto Droid which was a real plain-jane software wise. Without HTC sense and Cyanogen Mods custom ROMs , android certainly would not be where it is today.

Now that a lot of things are built-into Android APIs and exposed so that anyone can do a pretty good widget, I'm pretty sure HTC would rather concentrate on hardware with slight customized software like every other vendor. But , Google now owns Motorola and those new phones will have the inside track on software features. Plus Google has moved toward closing some aspects of certain apps like gmail so that its more difficult for outside vendors to build quality apps or widgets that interact with some parts of android.

Unless HTC's "Open Sense" effort really takes off, I would not be surprised to see them drop sense and produce devices with a more vanilla android sooner than later.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] lrs421:
^^^Well put.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Character Zero:
Is the pen integration dependand on software from HTC. If someone were to port CM7 or even CM9, would we lose all pen functionality. Could it be somehow ported over from the HTC framework?
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Currently the stylus depends on HTC's Stylus SDK and is heavily tied into HTC sense, but in Android ICS there is native support for generic digital stylus, so its conceivable that some functionality could be ported.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Ryno_666:
Verbatim 97537 Wireless Bluetooth Mobile Keyboard and Zeemote Js1. Something deep within Sense prevents pairing to these devices I've tried many drivers as well but all have failed. I'm sure if the flyer would accept these devices keymap would-be no issue. I'm currently on Io ROM and can't wait till release of a US WiFi rom.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] DigitalMD:
Io ROM? Is that a custom ROM? What happens exactly when you try to pair? Do other devices, for instance headphones pair properly? There is nothing in Sense (Sense is basically the application launcher plus widgets) that deals with Bluetooth. There are plenty of things in any particular ROM build that can affect Bluetooth.
[HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G] Ryno_666:
Yes custom ROM but on all dev Roms I've tried this happens have also tried apps such as bluez ime. I do gaming and development its nice to be able to mount flyer hands free ie: via controllers.

Sorry, to answer question only on these types of devices do I have problems. For example my WiFi Bluetooth and slave components do not seem affected I use my Motorola rocker HD Bluetooth headphones quite a bit with the flyer and have no problem, also my big bulky mac WiFi keyboard works as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
Zedomax OC Kernel for Galaxy S2 ATT SGH-I777

My goal for this kernel?

I want to push the limits of this phone to the maximum and takin' it to the limit! Well, it's always fun to overclock, hence Zedomax "OC" kernel. If you want stability and long battery life, see this kernel instead.

Video demo:

[YOUTUBE]dbiyzrzw44E[/YOUTUBE]

ChangeLog:

v.1

-Stable 1.6Ghz Overclocking - 200-400-500-600-800-900-1000-1200-1400-1504-1600 Mhz (thanks to NeoPhyTe.x360!)

-Smartass/Interactive governors added!

-Root

-CWM 5.0.2.3 (thanks to codeworkx!)

-SuperUser App 3.0.5

-SU Latest 3.0

-Custom Boot animation support (copy over bootanimation.zip file to /system/media directory)

-init.d support

GitHub Sources Here

ROM Devs: Would be honored if you include my kernel in your ROM, no need to ask or linking needed, just put it in there for me will ya?

Beta testers needed:

Can you try 1.6Ghz OC with smartass and see how battery life is?

How to Flash Kernel:

You can flash the zip file in ClockworkMod Recovery. You will need a rooted kernel with ClockworkMod Recovery, you can try my stock kernel here to get CWM if you don't have it yet.

Download kernel zip file:

http://downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyS2ATT/kernels/ZedomaxOCKernel/GalaxyS2ATT-ZedomaxOCv1.zip
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
reserved

reserved for LOL cat photos
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sentinel79:
Is this compatible with KH7 roms?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
Not sure, it COULD be since international is nearly identical to AT&T.

Can you try it and let me know?

I am sure it won't brick it but at the worst you might lose voice or something but it should boot on regular GS2, just have your stock kernel in hand just in case.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] manbeer:
Ugh wont dl. Keep getting a "content not supported by phone"

edit: nevermind, worked on firefox. trying it now , will report back
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
Sorry for that, you can try downloading on another browser, the stock browser won't download, I think Dolphin HD works or just download on computer and copy over.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shishir95:
I'll be trying this out tonight and I'll report on any immediate stability problems. I'll also let it run over night tomorrow and I'll update you on how well the kernel's running by then.

Edit 1) This is remarkably stable at 1.6Ghz forced (performance governer). It lasted 30 minutes before crashing on stock voltage. I'm impressed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] sentinel79:
Okay I used unnamed 1.02 and it booted but upon benching it crashed and on reboot was stuck with boot animation always on. Had to pull the battery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
I guess I won't flash just yet... I'm on UnNamed 1.0.3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
Make sure when benching don't set SetCPU app to "set on boot" just in case your phone can't go 1.6Ghz. That's probably what's causing it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] manbeer:
so far so good . first time ive been able to stay oc'd at all. normally itll freeze after a minute at 1400. now been on 1600 for 20 mins straight running tests and all is well. benchmark s are through the roof
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
Installed fine for me on UnNamed 1.0.3. Long first boot, but after that no problem. Will report back tomorrow after some playing. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
FYI, you'll find that there are quite a few people in these forums who are sticklers about following licenses such as the GPL.

hint hint...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] greddy1:
tried flashing in clockwork and it says installation aborted
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Doug8796:
a little bit slower than entropies and less features.. throw in gpu oc and ill be sold.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] quarlow:
Flashed it, then put my phone down to charge for an hour to watch the ICS event, when I went back to my phone it was really warm. Don't know if the two are related.

Sent from my SGS II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] vijovame:
Very unstable with my test, I can't overclock to 1600 without a freeze.

Seems to be slower than kernel from unknown rom in benchmark.

Any of you getting good overclock with unknown rom and this kernel?

Thank you for the work!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jake:
Zedo so good to see you here! My Odin isn't picking up your kernel. Which version of Odin are you using? possible link? i am having rough luck rooting my phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
Try this one, it includes the Odin I used, I left out Odin tar file for this kernel because I don't want people Oding kernels and accidentally brick their phones, try the root kernel then flash this in CWM.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1309293

[YOUTUBE]KwduRdkQHrs[/YOUTUBE]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
CPU coming v1.1!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] poofyhairguy:
This is awesome! Any chance of undervolting support or ext support?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
Yes, might tweak some undervolting for under stock frequencies below 1.2Ghz for better battery life, that's coming soon. ext support what is that? If you are talking about ext4, the galaxy s2 already comes with ext4 support stock in case u didn't know.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mbze430:
speaking of ext...

what about CIFS and NFS?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jivy26:
You testing this yourself? I ask because someone earlier asked if it was compatible with KH7, being Att sgs2 phones, and you said it should be.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] louiscyphere13:
older benchmarks

this is with Entropy's...ive tried every kernel and rom on here so far,..i want to oc past 1.6 ,..i cant believe some of you r locking up at 1400, my captivate would go 1440 ,nothing past that but still,...pretty smooth with your kernel though, nice work
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] louiscyphere13:
testing battery life with this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TechSilver13:
How the heck did u get 5900? Is ur gpu oc'd? Max I got on that kernel is 5200+ I want my score that high that's the only reason I ask.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Freddy2Fred:
I got this score with another kernel... I dont remember which one but I remember using the cynogenmod and got around that score. Its really fast.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Probably the ROM had an affect in that case.

Benchmarks are nearly worthless - the Stagefright hacks for the initial GalaxyS proved that. (Enabling Stagefright would give you crazy high Quadrant scores, but would completely break most media playback.)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
I used stock Tom if u use another Tom it could be higher testing that today..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] louiscyphere13:
im u using unnamed rom now,...tried perception,cm7,cognition,...yea i know about the benchmark scores being nearly worthless,. i still wanna kernel to oc past 1600,i use your 1.3 exp kernel ,i like it alot as best batt life and performance definetly,...for that score i was using perception and the 1.3 exp kernel
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] manbeer:
The weird thing I've noticed about overclocking is that if I go straight to intense testing it'll freeze sometimes but if I use the phone normally for a bit first it will fare better

My inspire would go all day at 1.8, and even hang on at 2.016 for a while

Edit: I've been running at 1.6 w smartass scaling since 7 am. Moderate to heavy use. After 7 hours I'm at 33%

I will post a screenshot of battery useage when I'm nearing empty. Not one crash thus far
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Simba501:
Include display time with that please :).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] manbeer:
2h 42m display time

I keep display at full dim

1.6/smartass/perception 2.3.5
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] mrcpu:
I just flashed this kernel on perception rc1.

Seems to be working OK for the couple hours it's been in use.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Milkshakes00:
Take this, iPhone 4S.

Harhar. :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Simba501:
How is this running for people not overclocking?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trusktr:
Hey zedomax, the SGS2 is my first android. :D

How does battery life at 1.6ghz compare to battery life at 1.2ghz?

I think I'm considering your zedomax kernel and my first Android mod ever. hehe :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
It's much better at 1.2Ghz of course, 1.6Ghz is highly experimental.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
1.6 GHz is going to go killtacular on your battery.

I did the calculations, and current drain at 1.6 is likely to be almost twice that of 1.2. (1.2 GHz stock voltage is 1.3 volts. Most 1.6 GHz OC implementations I've seen need 1.45 volts or more to be stable. Power consumption is a linear function of clock frequency and the square of the voltage.)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Divine_Madcat:
Mod Time:

zedomax - It looks like you have a good kernel posted here, but as mentioned, by the GPL licence, you must post your source. I will given the benefit of the doubt, and allow that your innocently forgot this; but it needs to be posted. If not, i will be forced to close the thread and remove the download until such source can be posted.

Carry on... :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zedomax:
will do soon, been so busy! Update: updated with github!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] soosoolhastam:
Run on cm7.1

Does this run on cm7.1 anyone?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] medion.:
I've tryed it on cm7 and it was a no go
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nh5:
Tried switching from entropy's kernel to this and lost root or at least superuser won't grant su anymore. Not sure why. Will try flashing again. Also would be interested in getting source soon also!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
Doesn't make sense unless his root injection script is an older one like mine used to be (that accidentally clobbers updates.)

Note that sometimes after a superuser binary/APK update, you need to re-run the app once manually for root to work again, sometimes you even have to clear data.

It should not be possible to lose root after flashing away from my kernel unless something really clobbered the binaries.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TRDregun:
I am curious to see what benchmarks are being pulled on cf-bench and antutu, since quadrant doesn't have full support for dual core processors.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] blackwolf13:
Would Love to try this can you give me a link?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] afrojoc:
wrong thread sorry****
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] owmygulay:
In the first post it said this could be flashed with cwm. I had to flash my first kernel with odin. Was that just to get the initial root and cwm?

Thanks

Edit: Sorry, I just saw your how-to video earlier in the thread. I am going to give it a shot. Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zanson:
Benchmarks assert a fixed 1600 mhz.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] zanson:
More benchmarks.same 1600mhz. Plugged in with no other apps running

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] kingpin32:
I got this with Entropy Daily driver kernal with no frills cpu control
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] papashex:
With CPU set to 1.6GHz and govenor=performance: 4700 Quadrant and 62 Linpack. on stock KJ4 rom.

FWIW govenor=smartass did not do as well.

edit: unfortunately I find that wi-fi no longer works. It did after rooting with zerg-rush script, then install your zImage through terminal emulator - no wifi.

edit: FIXED WIFI by copying 2 KJ2 files to etc/wifi as shown in another post in the forum, but lost 500 on quadrant.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] SSJ_Gomike:
Anyway to make this kernel compatible with voltage control?

Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] owmygulay:
I don't know how you guys are doing this. When I use setcpu to set it at anything more than 1200 it will crash and restart!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Entropy512:
All devices are different. Some can't clock to 1.6, some can't even clock to 1.4.

There's a reason the device was only sold as 1.2 - that's the limit of where it was tested. Until the Note, Samsung's binning process didn't cover anything higher. If it binned as anything above 1.2, it became a 1.2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] owmygulay:
That makes sense. That kinda stinks but thanks for the help.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] louiscyphere13:
kernel testing

testing on a new kernel ,very high benchmarks,quadrant,linpack,antutu,etc.. everything runs really smooth
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bkeaver:
what are you doing to get that high of quadrant
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] louiscyphere13:
overclocked to 1695 ,gpu ocd also,..i cant remember which rom i was on with that score,..either omega or cognition
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bkeaver:
with this kernel?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] louiscyphere13:
not with this kernel,.i did get 5000 with this kernel though
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bkeaver:
what kernel are you using if I may ask?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] louiscyphere13:
siyah kernel
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bkeaver:
isnt that a i9100 kernel??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
Share the wealth? lol. Can we get a link?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] bkeaver:
i believe this is a I9100 Kernel and I wouldn't recommend using it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] louiscyphere13:
works great for me,no problms at all and have been running it for weeks

---------- Post added at 09:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:57 AM ----------

just use hellraiser mod
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
I'll pass... don't wanna risk it.