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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Recalesce:
Who knows. If the phone hardware is similar, we might get an early release of ICS based on the Nexus Prime version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Aldiggi:
LOL your right but who knows ICS is designed for dual core hardware so we might get lucky lets just see......... :-)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] akira02rex:
It wont take long
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ljwnow:
It'll take a long time. Because this phone is already 20 years old. Thanks to att
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] ferrocene:
From att? 8 Months. from cyanogen? 8 hours.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] switters1:
Haha. Seriously. Gotta love CM.

I was actually pretty happy running cognition, Unnamed, etc, but now I'm running CM7 because I know CM will serve up ice cream sandwich months before we see it from Samsung or elsewhere.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] qwertyaas:
Haha, sounds like what we all said about GB since the Nexus S is so close to the Captivate (and Galaxy S).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nytvd:
when google releases jellybeans, ATT will release ice cream.... :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nyydynasty:
i hope its not jellybeans. I dont like jellybeans. lets call it 'jalapeno'
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] WGSXFrank:
I really hope we'll get it relatively soon... but if not I'll just leave it too the custom ROM devs to get it to us xD
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dan40hands:
Lol I prefer JuJu beans.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] aaaLT:
Well that's not really a dessert/sweet (;

Wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being jellybean.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Aldiggi:
Looks like ICS is a 3 button lay out from what the video shows on the Galaxy Nexus.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Rrryan2:
(dates are approximate, based solely on my fuzzy memory)

If the history of the Captivate can be a guide:

AOSP Froyo was released in about July(?) of last year, I9000 Froyo and leaked versions of Froyo for Captivate started appearing around October, official AT&T UCKB1 Froyo dropped in late February. So, about 8 months for official Froyo.

AOSP GB was released in about Feb., Samsung I9000 custom ROMs appeared around May, and official AT&T Captivate GB still has not been released nor has any definite timeline even been announced. 2011 was all that was given in a press release a few months back, but 8 months would put it around Dec/Jan.

But the I777 AT&T SGS II deviates less from the international SGSII though, which *might* make it easier/simpler for Samsung and AT&T to shorten the development cycle. Captivate had stuff like the Audience chip that the international I9000 didn't, and omittted stuff like the front-facing camera, flash, and FM radio. SGSII also has less bloat that needs to be updated.

We'll just have to see how much faster the development cycle is, if it's improved at all.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jgotti107:
Yea its gonna be a wonder how they put it on our phones since we have the 4 capacitive buttons and the ics buttons are part of the ui...just disable them all together??? O_o

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2 using the mind reader app...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Aldiggi:
That's what has me wondering .......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Day Of Shadows:
We are getting it pretty soon from Samsung apparently, first quarter next year.

http://www.facebook.com/notes/samsu...ch-upgrade-for-galaxy-devices/328795820483403
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Gary86:
Now does that mean our version or the international
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Day Of Shadows:
dont know honestly, many peope on there are complaining about no i9000, so, i suppose its ATT.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/20/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-and-note-get-late-ics-christmas-presents-ar/

means all of them
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] K Rich:
you'd think it'd be rather quick and easy for them to release it....considering they've probably had the ICS source code for awhile now for the Nexus...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] RockRatt:
I "HOPE" when they say Galaxy S2 they are referring to our device as well and NOT just the SkyRocket LTE.

http://news.yahoo.com/samsung-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-coming-152259908.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jirv311:
But lets not forget that even though Samsung will be releasing it for the GS2 in Q1 2012, AT&T may not be releasing it until 2013. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
Why in God's name would they give ICS to the skyrocket and not their flagship Galaxy phone! CMON man wise up!

---------- Post added at 10:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 AM ----------

Nah AT&T wont wait on this they want alot of ICS phones asap
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AcmeWidgets:
We were kind of promised by ATT that we would be getting ICS. It was one of their selling points. If they don't come through in a reasonable amount of time, then they will facing quite a few Terms of Agreement violations.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jirv311:
They definitely wont be facing any TOS violations. I came from the Captivate which I bought in March. They said we'd have Froyo "soon". It was months and months later we got it. Plenty of other phones were already on GB before we got Froyo.

And of course sales people are going to tell you ICS will be coming soon. They want to sell you a phone. They will never commit to a date though. Never have.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
Once again you guys arent getting the point! GALAXY S is the top of the line Samsung flagship phone! Captivate and skyrocket were rebrands! If it carries the Galaxy S name it will receive all relevant upgrades first and prompt, even within AT&T. so saying i come from a captivate or other phone has no bearing! Thats part of the deal with AT&T and samsung and why they kept it as the Galaxy S2 not attain
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jirv311:
I think you're confusing the Galaxy S2 i9100 and the Galaxy S2 SGH-i777. They're not the same phone. AT&T will not release a ROM without their bloatware installed.

And for the record, my Captivate had a Galaxy S branding on it. It doesn't matter what they call it, they're different phones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] TXFLGO05:
Not sure if you all have seen this: http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=8894

Looks like there will be some version of ICS out there for most Galaxy devices. Although "For upgradable models, Samsung will make separate announcements on details of OS updates schedule for each market according to market situation and carriers’ requirements.", we could still be screwed by AT&T and not get it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
I think youre confusing them they are almost exactly the same phone. Thats why they carry the galaxy S name , beside the no home button and a few software differences very slight they are almost identical
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Jirv311:
So except for the buttons and the software, they're exactly the same? :D

The Vibrant and the Captivate both carried the Galaxy S moniker and yet were very different.

My point is, AT&T has no obligation to deliver ICS to us. They will, but they are not legally or contractually obligated to provide us with ICS in Q1 2012 or any other time. They'll do it when they're good and ready.

/end argument
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
Bro, I said slight changes in the software not completely different software. Not legally no, but between google making carriers agree to an 18 month minimal upgrade and Samsung wanting all non renamed Galaxy S phones to be updated closely globally it seems a great bet that we will get ICS as soon as the international one does. PS the vibrant and captivate were different hardware, bigger changes in software from the international, then our SGS2 is :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] madLyfe:
im really fresh to the android 'scene'.. i like the looks of ICS and was wondering the process? if i get it right, we really dont have to wait for an ATT port, just the samsung port of ICS?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Andrew149:
pretty much a leak samsung port from january-march
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] madLyfe:
ah ok, ya i read that on their announcement that they were going to do the sgs2.. cant wait!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] jake:
MadLyfe, please click the link re forum etiquette in my signature below.

These forums are not meant used as a place to come and pickup cliff notes because you are too lazy (or just "don't have the time) to read previous threads. These threads are here for you to READ and LEARN the answers to your questions. Once you've attempted some form of research - of course your questions are welcome. I have yet to see a post /statement of yours that indicates any type of effort :confused:.

google is your friend. :eek::rolleyes::cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] madLyfe:
why dont you worry about what your doing instead of what everyone else is doing...?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] demon9206:
Zing!

But no really, he has a point. Statistically speaking, any questions you may have, have probably been addressed. If you ask for something, and next post you say "oh yeah, I read that", well it seems like you should have tried to find and read that information before you asked it.

Its not very useful to have people asking the same questions over and over is all.

I've been lurking on this forum quite awhile before I registered, and even then took my time before posting, because the search button usually helped me.

Believe me, we all want ICS. Patience is a virtue (but doesn't mean I don't want to fast forward time :p)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] suremang:
does anyone know if ICS will support mass mms like ios where all contacts in the mms sent will show up in the same chat thread? its annoying to get individual texts from my friends and not know what the hell is going on at first
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nicktuso:
Now you're just asking too much. I'll check on my gf's nexus when I find it, not that it's the same exact thing, but it has ICS. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] surf1:
Still curious, what does one gain flashing ICS vs say uNamed?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Boobie Watcher:
Are you trolling? If not google it!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] surf1:
No serious question... I've used the Galaxy Nexus and like ICS, but it didn't really blow me away, maybe I fell to the Hype thinking this was going to be nutz, but it seems more like a really nice update. I mean I didn't notice really any difference in smoothness or speed vs my i777 SG2. Though I did like the new multitasking a lot.... hope that's ported over well to the SG2 since the touch buttons are different. And the sliding pano for the camera was slick, except the pic quality sucked on the GN vs the SG2 or 4S (seems they did it half assed, gave the camera some excellent speed and features but stuck subpar lens etc in.).

I guess I should have rephrased what I meant, worded it wrong. If a clean port of ICS with no bloatware comes through, then that will be sweet. Especially if you'll still be able to theme it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
That's funny; the multitasking feature is the thing I hate the most about the SGN/ICS. It's a waste of a soft button, which could have been search (if they make search more useful) or even menu (so you're not hunting for it on screen). It takes 10x longer to hit the multi key and scroll around than it does to just hit home and launch your app. It seems like a concept they lifted from iOS without much thought. CM7 multi is not as pretty but certainly more useful.

Regarding your SGN v. SGS2 comparison, ICS is slower than 2.3.x, so the SGN shouldn't seem any faster, given that they have the same proc power.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Boobie Watcher:
Wasn't trying to be a douche.....just seemed like a strange question, i gotcha now though. As far as speed goes its going to be a bit laggy i would assume moreso than 2.3.x but it has enough new features for me to want to get my hands on it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Miami_Son:
:D Gotta love it! The guy who's been here 3 months telling the guy who's been here 1 month how to behave.:D:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] snarlynx:
testing my posting ability.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Miami_Son:
That's what the Off Topic forum is for, noob.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thephoneguyusa:
Got bored and deiced I was going to start a website and blog dedicated to our GS2. Still a work in progress but my first blog is on ICS. Kinda old news I know but everyone has to start somewhere! lol

If you get bored and want another place to talk about our GS2 without cluttering our XDA forums head on over!

http://www.wix.com/thephoneguyusa/att-gs2/apps/blog/ics-and-our-beloved-gs2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] autonomous-inc:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1420996

Official ROM for the International version is released. We're gettin it soon boys! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1420996
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] andy7g:
Really looking forward to ICS on 777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] wonner:
I'm assuming it can't be Hellraised due to the kernel? Man, it's so close I can taste it. :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] madLyfe:
will there be a separate i777 version of the source or will someone have to port it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
Samsung will make an i777 build. I doubt we will see a port of the i9100 version because we need an ICS kernel specifically for the i777, which we can't build without kernel source I believe
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
Days people Days!;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] pham818:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUP8TBIveic&feature=related

seems to have removed touch wiz :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Gary86:
That would be awesome to get an ICS ROM with touch wiz removed like the nexus. I'm sure someone will make it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] graffixnyc:
Yeah it's called cm9 ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Gary86:
Oh duh...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Captpt:
What I am looking forward to with ICS is unlike gingerbread and I assume our ROMs here ICS actually utilizes the dual processors on our Galaxy S2 phones which should make them even faster/better..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Gary86:
That's what I'm hoping for as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] cwoodard73:
Confused about what this means. Can anyone clarify for me? Does this mean we will be seeing an ICS update come through Kies? Sure wish Kies would recognize my phone, lol....

UGH, can't post the link to this because I'm a forum noob. It came from Appy Geek.

Monday, January 02, 2012 10:17 AM GMT

Samsung has started rolling out the Ice Cream Sandwich update to its Galaxy S II customers. Floodgates, however, are still not widely open, since the new ROM requires Samsung Kies software and can’t be installed over the air. What’s more, we’re not sure every Galaxy S II user can get its Android 4.0 fix — Kies software updates are known to target select markets so you may not see it just yet.

The 2 ROMs are the following:

I9100XXKP4 is based on Android 4.0.1 Build date: December, 20 2011

I9100XXKP8 is based on Android 4.0.3 Build date: December, 30 2011

It is said that most regions will get the KP8 ROM with Android ICS 4.0.3 directly. As far as we can tell, the new software slightly changes the UI, bringing new icons and new on/off toggle to the mix. If you’re in the lucky group and you also like to experiment with Kies updates, please let us know about any changes you notice…
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] andy7g:
For at&t version I don't think we can use those roms. CM9 is probably our only hope to get onboard ICS.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] :
Unfortunately we will receive it far later then the international version. Samsung has yet to release the code for this phone as they did for the international one. If I'm not mistaken the audio is different from thee international one which is holding us up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] madLyfe:
from what i understand what we are waiting for is the kernel source..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] thephoneguyusa:
This is a must read article! Google has mandated that manufactures must include the use of vanilla ICS and there touchwiz/ sense UI!

http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...-theme-mandatory/&category=classic&postPage=1

Edit: misread lol looks like this may just be directed to settings not launcher
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Captpt:
Us AT&T i777 GS2 owners won't see it from att/Samsung for a long time but i'm hoping the guys here will have it available in the near future.. Even when att does release

their version who really wants the bloatware that will be included :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Neckrobeard:
What it means is they have to leave the stock UI elements on the rom so their skins doesn't **** with apps. But yeah, doesn't apply to launcher, etc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
So what gives, thought we'd be rolling in ICS by now... lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Hemlocke:
Yeah, what gives? I was hoping to see it on my NT, by now...err, wrong forum. I gotta admit, it was pretty cool on my Nexus S, but you guys have so many great GB ROMs, that when the first ICSports come your way, many of you will probably spend time bouncing back and forth between great GBROMs and the first ICS builds. Keep the faith.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] midnightslide:
Yeah, what gives?

I'm honestly kind of irritated that we haven't been given many (if any) updates on when ICS will become available for this phone... and honestly, it doesn't really surprise me, because to me, it seems like the AT&T GSII is the gifted bastard child of the phone world.

We waited for, what seemed to be, a ridiculously long time to even get our hands on an AT&T version of the GSII, when our neighbors across the pond had it for how long? Then, when the much anticipated release FINALLY happened, it was like the carrier didn't make a big deal about it. It was here, and shortly after, it was on to bigger and better things. Then, almost immediately after its release, the Galaxy Nexus is released, and the GSII is old news.

The same thing seems to be happening with ICS. The Nexus S got it. Many other phones got it. Hell, even the overseas version of the GSII has an alpha... but... where is our love? Once again, it seems like we are left out in the cold, with no word on what is going on. It would be nice if the CyanogenMod team even gave some sort of a shout-out saying if they anticipate any kind of release in the near future, or if much/any work has even been done on it. For me, even a "hey guys, we're thinking about you" would suffice.

/rant
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Boobie Watcher:
I feel you, but im pretty sure samsung said official release would be quarter 2 of 2012 for out version, internation version q1, once they get theirs we should see an unofficial version ported to our phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] midnightslide:
Do you happen to have a source for the info? That'd give me something to read while I cool off... :D

I also forgot to mention that I feel like AT&T really enjoys messing with us, in vindictive ways, other than being ridiculously behind on software updates.

Anyone else still wondering why they released a phone with NFC technology, but have yet to enable it? I am still trying to figure out what that was all about....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Boobie Watcher:
Man I cant remember where I saw that....Try to google it (not trying to be a douche) you will probably find it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] votinh:
Are you guys talking about this:

http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-details-ics-upgrades-gsii-and-note-in-q1-2012-20203420/

It's mentioning SGS2 but not ATT specific.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Silenus21:
I knew I should have gotten the International Version.

Luckily my sister wants my GS2 so I'll buy an International Galaxy Note. HA!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] graffixnyc:
I hear ya.. I know for me it's frustrating to see pretty much every older phone having an ICS port already. I know they keep saying we wont get it until we get kernel source, But how are older devices getting it is what I dont understand. What source do they have that we are lacking? meaning how can an older device which also only has GB kernel source available get ICS and we cant? That's what I have been wondering. I mean havent some devices that havent even gotten GB officially yet have a ICS port? How is it that they can get a working port and we cant?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
THIS^^^!!!!!!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] eep2378:
This may help http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=21103195#post21103195 post #11

Doesn't completely answer your valid questions but might have some indication.:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Alucardis666:
Yea. I am just biding my time and waiting at this point.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] nthornton1990:
Im sure you will be getting it. Im rockin the epic 4g touch and I know we already have the system dump. So just wait a little while.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] shishir95:
You NEEED a source drop for ICS to get it working on ANY phone. Or ATLEAST a related phone. The only phone we have things in common with is the i9100 Galaxy SII and... go into their thread and install their version of CM9 on our phone. It'll boot and everything will work except voice on calls, and our touchkeys. For those, we need kernel source. Not having any voice in calls is a pretty big deal for most people.

Most devices have a related phone that has gotten ICS, such as the Nexus S+ all of the i9000 variants -- the Captivate for example. Other phones, just have enough in common with supported phones that porting them isn't that different.

Made sense?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] afrojoc:
We can't port a kernel source from the i9100 to map the keys correctly? And isn't the lack of voice on calls because of the i9100 modem right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
People have tried, but it wont take. Kernel source.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
Not every phone is build my Samsung. Different driveres, sources, etc .....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] graffixnyc:
That made sense. Thanks! (I'll hit thanks when I get to my PC) lol

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
yes but the Nexus S is and it has 4.0 both direct and CM9 so how come our phone is being a pain
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] trell959:
Well I kinda expected nexus to get ports/ officials first because its a Nexus device. But i see what you're saying considering that the captivate has ics ported from the i9000, which requires remapping for the keys, which they were able to do without source.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Nick281051:
That's because it's a nexus and gets first dibs, with official they obviously are getting cm9 faster because they already have ICS official...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] AndreaCristiano:
this was my point. Thank you
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Hunt3r.j2:
This might be a dumb question, but once we get source for i9100 ICS kernels, does that mean we just need to port that kernel and ROMs can start getting cooked on ICS?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] demon9206:
No, we need our kernel.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Boobie Watcher:
From what i've read, when the I9100 gets official release we will be able to port.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] demon9206:
Hm, I went back and looked.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=20905871&highlight=kernel#post20905871

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20893530&postcount=220

And there were a few more posts I remember but can't find.

Anyway, from what I gather, we MIGHT be able to do stuff without our own kernel...but it will be very hard, if it even works.