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[Off-topic] lyrical1278:
The ONLY reason the iPhone will win over Android is simple: EASE OF USE

Almost every reason you gave in the OP is mostly stuff the average consumer doesn't and will never care about. The AC doesn't care about rooting and such. Heck, if the average consumer REALLY cared about battery life, then the Galaxy series of phones wouldn't sell as well as it does.

The ONLY reason iOS and it's the ONLY thing iOS has over everyone is ease of use. Winmo7 has equal ease of use, but it suffers from coming to the party too late.

ICS looks like it will have better ease of use, but for now iOS is king when it comes to the average consumer and JUST working.
[Off-topic] iPwn_:
There.....
[Off-topic] rjskalet:
iphone = basic

Basic people use basic phones. Android however is for the more intuitive person hints why there is so much development
[Off-topic] Hyphnx:
Problem?

I'm guessing you bought the new iPhone 4S and are pretty damn mad about the Galaxy Nexus.

I would be mad too.
[Off-topic] rjskalet:
reasons for wanting to return your new iPhone ----->>>>>>> galaxy nexus / facial unlock
[Off-topic] Hyphnx:
Don't forget, if something happens to his iPhone he has to pay $30 to get it fixed.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
well let's see, iPhone is on how many carriers and offers how many price ranges? The fact that android is more readily available is the only reason that the above is true. I don't like iOS but I also don't have to lie to myself about my OS's dominance.
[Off-topic] rjskalet:
IPhones have genius bars. .........android has a development community

Oh yea and half the time those "geniuses" don't know what's going on
[Off-topic] Hyphnx:
What do we do now, boss?
[Off-topic] Barzobius:
You forgot:

-Closed ecosystem, you will only have whatever they allow you to have.

-A phone that's made of glass, if it fall off your hands it will explode its "Nasa technology made" screen to a million pieces.

-The ackward feeling of being just one more from the herd with not much of a freedom, unlike Android.

"I'll rather be head of mice than a lion's tail"

And still, there is not a single thing that you can do on an iphone that u cannot do it on android also, and if there is, its not for long.

One more thing: iphone fits more for just the regular USER, let's say. Android fits more for the power users like us AND regular users.

Caddle ;)
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
the parts of this that are English are just comical.
[Off-topic] Barzobius:
:P
[Off-topic] renehd2:
Dont worry |OP| we (android users) understand that you are a little dissapoint with the new iphone 4S and its silly thing, "sorry" i mean siri thing... just wait one year more to have 1.5 dual core while we (android users) will be using Quad cores or something... and you fanboys will say... "its not necessary... dual core is better in battery life and bla bla bla"

Glad to you fanboys that the Man invented the pretexts :P
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
hardware has nothing to do with OS, iOS runs infinitely better on lesser hardware.
[Off-topic] Illicit Hero:
Hate to say it, but as much as you want to think Android has a better Dev community it doesn't. Most of the Android devs stick to a specific device each completely different from the next. The iPhone Dev community can be smaller but a lot more support because no fragmentation.

The main reason for Android ROMs are for a few reasons. Removing manufactor/carrier crapware, ASOP, and themes. With the iPhone you don't need a ROM at all because there is no crapware, it's stock firmware, and with jailbreaking you can theme.

You don't brick iPhones unless it's intentional and even then you can get a new one for free most likely.
[Off-topic] spyd312:
To the op, you can't talk about the pros of an iPhone and attempt to distinguish it against a platform (Android). The 4S is a phone. iOS5 is the platform. If you want to make a fair assessment, you need to compare it with a NEXUS since it's the flagship phone for Android.

I'll give apple their props. They make good products and streamline as much as possible (the ecosystem). If you're the kind of person that just wants a good phone without a NEED of fully customizing/tweaking, then the iPhone is perfect.

On the other hand, I chose an EVO 15 months ago because it suited my needs. Barring any hardware requirement (NFC chip), I know that it'll only be a matter of time until the wonderful devs here at xda will find a way to get it to work on my phone. For example, sense 3.0 isn't officially coming to my phone, but guess what? It's possible to do so, even Sense 3.5. You have the right to point out that certain things don't work, but guess what? Eventually they will and I can wait until the devs complete the project. Let me put it like this:

When people state that the custom ROMs are buggy. It's like a little kid making GINGERBREAD and eating the dough, then complaining that it's not their flavor. You'd simply point out that you gotta finish adding all the ingredients and wait for the finished product. I'm running CM7 GB 2.3.7 and this cookie is sweet.

Lastly, let's say you drive a Ferrari. THE iOS platform is like driving an automatic (no paddle shifter, just a regular gas and break). The Android platform is like a 6 gate manual. You have complete control over the vehicle. You feel more connected because you have a say. You can down shift and speed past the car on your right. Whereas the automatic will force you to remain in high gear because that's what it wants you to think is best for you.

At the end of the day, it's all about whether you're happy with your purchase. Bashing something for the sake of bashing is immature.

P.S. look to your left...that's me passing you up
[Off-topic] KillaHurtz:
If by infinitely better you mean closed & outdated. Sure Windows 95 runs great on lesser hardware also............but who wants that dinosaur **** ?

Sorry but I'll pass on a unix/BSOD system that is closed. I prefer access, insight

& freedom over "easy of use" any day.
[Off-topic] Illicit Hero:
So having weak software on high specs is great? Gotta have those specs, his point is that the software and hardware a built around each other and not slapped together and marketed purely by specs.
[Off-topic] yashmack:
We arent lying about the dominance of Android. Its offered on m ore devices and at multiple prices. It is leading in smartphone use, the numbers back this up.

If apple were to offer a larger range of phones and price options then maybe they could gain some of that market share back, but Android would still dominate.

iOS may be easier to use but Android is more accessible/available

with the new 4.0 OS I have no doubt that it will become more accessible to those looking for an easier to use android...
[Off-topic] amace04:
that is an oxymoron.
[Off-topic] vbetts:
Funny how you say outdated!

Qualcomm still keeps putting out single cores that are based on arm v7 instructions, the same instructions that are in A4! Even on outdated Apple devices like the 3gs, Ios still runs fast and amazing. How about you try taking Android, and placing it even on the original Snapdragon and tell me that it's just as smooth? :D

I like IOS as a platform and Iphone as a device, I do. The screen resolution and ppi are amazing on the Iphone, and aside from the Galaxy Nexus there is no screen with that quality! But there is still one thing that bothers me about the screen, only being 3.5"! The OS makes great use of the screen size and resolution on the device, but I still want a bigger screen!

Also funny how you say this! Android does let you "live a free ungoverned life(Anarchy, which is never good by the way. :D)," after you root it. It's the same way with Ios, you can download new themes for IOS, sideload apps with IOS, even download apps outside the app store, and you can even theme Ios simply! The launcher argument really doesn't hold up too well either, since there are a few actual launcher or home apps for IOS now without jailbreaking, and there have been different launchers for IOS after being Jailbroken for a long time now.

So for anyone arguing the freedom you get with IOS and Android, it doesn't hold out well since you need to get root access to both platforms to actually change anything.

Iphone is becoming available on more carriers with every model, but at the same time on every major carrier all around the world there is at least 4 Android devices from low budget end, to high price performance end. Where as with the Iphone as far as the US goes, there's the 3gs, 4, and 4s on ATT, the 4 and 4s on Verizon, the 4s on Sprint while the 4 is coming to Sprint sooner or later, and no Iphone device available on Tmobile. Tmobile was the first carrier to even have Android and has many Android options available, Verizon gave more room for Android with the Droid series, AT&T started to bring in low end devices then went high end, and Sprint has also pushed Android being the first carrier to offer an Android device with a modem faster than 3g(If you have wimax support in your area that is, and it's very spotty sadly...). Let's not forget the phone manufacturers like Samsung, that has made sure that there is a Galaxy S and Galaxy SII variant(Except Verizon for the SII) on the major carriers.
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
correct, its accessible and available, that's the only reason it's ahead. It has nothing to do with the quality of the OS.
[Off-topic] yashmack:
I love these arguments, its like arguing Ford over Chevrolet, Mercedes over BMW or the like... they can go either way depending on personal preference

mostly with these OS's and phones it will all come down to personal preference

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it does have something to do with the quality of the OS or else we would see other phones having a larger stake in the market

the "Other" section would be much larger

Android doesnt have a bad OS

it may have some detractors but it is pretty easy to use imo
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
ill skip both and take the lesserkknown but much better bugatti... Err... Wp7
[Off-topic] vbetts:
And why is that exactly? People wouldn't buy a product just because it's availability, if that were the case then quality of all kinds of products would be next to none.

Android is in no way shape or form perfect, I'll gladly admit that. But for what the manufacturers do for Android to keep their devices stable, functional, and reliable, it works out great. HTC has always been great on device support, Samsung in the past couple of years is getting better at it, and Motorola is starting to do better either. There are other manufacturers like Pantech and LG that are even stepping their game up. As far as issues with the devices and bugs in the software goes, IOS like Android is not perfect, nor is the hardware always.(Need I remind you of the reception issue with the GSM 4?)
[Off-topic] an2ane:
IPhone = week and bland,I had the first iPhone,3gs just sold iPhone 4s to upgrade my turbo on my car =) I choose to keep my Android because it had never broken, damn I still got my g1 ;)
[Off-topic] yashmack:
hahahaha

I do have to say that I like WP7

my girlfriend has the HTC HD7 and its a very nice phone and very nice OS

I personally like the look of Android better, especially the upcoming ICS

I dont really like the tiles what WP7 uses, I like having icons and the like

that said WP7 offers a great experience, I do like it alot

I would actually recommend a WP7 phone to anyone looking for a new phone, I would suggest it over an iphone for sure and possibly an android, unless I know that person would be a modder and ROM swapper like myself ;)
[Off-topic] ivcesar:
only reason it sells its because it has a I and Apple slap in the back. case close
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
Just because you're fanboys doesn't justify blindness... Unless you're blind fanboys and in that case why do you have a touch screen phone?

jokes aside, iPhone doesn't sell strictly by brand. It is a device who's hardware (not internals but aesthetics) are unrivaled aside from a tiny screen. The build quality is superb and doesn't feel like it was haphazardly glued together like HTC devices or like Mattel built them like Samsung devices. The only hardware company that rivaled iphone's build quality is Nokia and they're onboard with WP7. Next, the OS is infinitely more fluid than android. On average an android device on the UI runs around 22-27 fps where iOS is a steady 60 as far back as the 3gs. It's optimized for it's superb hardware and it shows. Next, fragmentation isn't an issue. I can play infinity blade on a 3gs just as well as a 4gs and 2 years in the real world is like a century in the tech world. Overall it is a higher quality product for gaming, media, and basic phone functions. If you only get your phones to mod then android is for you but for quality, WP7 or iOS.
[Off-topic] yashmack:
Samsung has excellent build quality, they always have on every phone ive ever used from Samsung

Their build quality is on par with Apple, or possibly better

I have a Samsung Intercept, one of their cheapest phones, and it has excellent buld quality

it doesnt feel like a toy, it looks great, and has withstood multiple drops from the table

I know of ALOT of iphones that cant say the same, their screens cracke very easily...

take a look at this:

http://androidandme.com/2011/10/devices/android-vs-ios-this-changes-everything/

looking at that pic I would prefer the Andriod OS...
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
I believe the saying is, "why fix what isn't broken?" the last Samsung phone that felt like it had any serious build quality was the captivate and that was plagued by Samsung loading it with the worst junkwear ever. Now Samsung uses those horrid plastics. While my focus is much safer for my 1 year old to chew on the plastics feel absolutely cheap.
[Off-topic] vbetts:
I am gonna have to debunk somethings here though...

Bold are my responses. :D

A lot of your information is dead wrong, and is very biased against Android. So unless you can come up with facts with proof and not biased personal reasons, your argument is fud.
[Off-topic] Serious_Beans:
To the OP, definitely the wrong place to bash Android. lol, go do that on ifans.

Anyway, I'm not going to bother responding to every little point you made because that's just no fun. I don't think iOS 5 and iPhone 4S were meant to big a large improvement, this is Android's year, honestly I was going to switch to the 4S if ICS was a let down, but forget about being a fan, and being mad and all that stuff, if you let go of your biases you will see that ICS is actually REALLY nice and a big improvement over Gingerbread, Android finally has a look it can stick to and definitely looks more uniform like iOS.

iOS had a year head start but Android finally caught up, I can't say that iOS > Android now, I used to think that, but for now Android wins, we have to wait until next year to see what the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 will bring.

I'm not an Android fan boy or anything like that so don't bash me about that. I am just a tech enthusiast and I love anything that's slick, cool, useful and that has a touch screen lol, so don't say I'm one or the other. Anyway, I get what you're trying to say, but don't act like a jerk and trollllllllllalalalalallall.
[Off-topic] vbetts:
Too bad with their GSM models they can't get a decent modem in for reception. :D

Both HTC and Samsung devices are known for build quality.

Nokia does have some pretty nice devices, but nothing that Samsung or HTC hasn't put out in the past couple of years.

Not on the Iphone 3g for IOS 4, or the 2g for Ios3!

I know a lot of people that can argue that as far as IOS 4 on the 3g. 3gs, 4, 4s no doubt the software is optimized great!

The 3gs has a smaller resolution, so there isn't as much to render as there is on the 4 or the 4s. But I am going to throw in the 3g and 2g argument, neither of them can run Infinity Blade and even the 3g can't under IOS 4.

Not sure where you drew this conclusion from, but as far as hardware goes Iphone has been using hardware that you would basically see in rival devices, the screen resolution maybe high, but the screen size is terrible. Where as lets take the Galaxy S, a smaller resolution but a bigger screen for gaming! If the app is optimized for the resolution and screen size, this will give you a better advantage easily! The only thing I'll say on media, is IOS has it down flat as far as basic codec support goes, but with Android you can easily add .mkv support without rooting even! For basic phone functions, you can call, check voicemail, and even text no problem in Android as you can in IOS.

You keep going on on how Android has no quality, I'll say it again people don't buy products based on availability. Android has become a dependable, reliable, and stable OS just as IOS has. Any problems that Android has, IOS has some sort of problems as well.
[Off-topic] vimi93:
Exactly !!! ANDROID ROCKS !!!
[Off-topic] vimi93:
"If iphone is better (as u think) then why they copied the notification bar just like in Android"

and simple thing though screen quality matters but Android provides wide range nd quality of HUGE amoled+ like screens.... which prooves android the winner becoz of its open source !!!
[Off-topic] walropodes:
IMO "feeling like being part of the herd" is a shallow and poorly-thought-out reason to consider when looking for a device to buy. iOS devices are nice and I don't think people should belittled for owning them. If they aren't your cup of tea, then just don't buy them.
[Off-topic] Soy_Filipo:
I own a horse

Enviado desde mi SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 usando Tapatalk
[Off-topic] eioous:
Oh yeah me too, mine is blue with yellow spots.

Sent from my Android powered Super Cyborg Chicken Hunter.
[Off-topic] carden12:
I don't think so..iphone 4S will kill android..
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
Too bad with their GSM models they can't get a decent modem in for reception. :D

Both HTC and Samsung devices are known for build quality.

Nokia does have some pretty nice devices, but nothing that Samsung or HTC hasn't put out in the past couple of years.

Not on the Iphone 3g for IOS 4, or the 2g for Ios3!

I know a lot of people that can argue that as far as IOS 4 on the 3g. 3gs, 4, 4s no doubt the software is optimized great!

The 3gs has a smaller resolution, so there isn't as much to render as there is on the 4 or the 4s. But I am going to throw in the 3g and 2g argument, neither of them can run Infinity Blade and even the 3g can't under IOS 4.

Not sure where you drew this conclusion from, but as far as hardware goes Iphone has been using hardware that you would basically see in rival devices, the screen resolution maybe high, but the screen size is terrible. Where as lets take the Galaxy S, a smaller resolution but a bigger screen for gaming! If the app is optimized for the resolution and screen size, this will give you a better advantage easily! The only thing I'll say on media, is IOS has it down flat as far as basic codec support goes, but with Android you can easily add .mkv support without rooting even! For basic phone functions, you can call, check voicemail, and even text no problem in Android as you can in IOS.

You keep going on on how Android has no quality, I'll say it again people don't buy products based on availability. Android has become a dependable, reliable, and stable OS just as IOS has. Any problems that Android has, IOS has some sort of problems as well.
[Off-topic] Toss3:
Hahhahaha.. srsly, how blind can people get?

Agreed with everything else, yet I still prefer android myself.
[Off-topic] wrath663:
here we go again
[Off-topic] Soy_Filipo:
Mine is white and blue, with stars on his back! When he runs leaves a rainbow behind

Sent from my Galaxy Captivate, not that you care, just saying...
[Off-topic] Soy_Filipo:
My horse is white and blue, with stars on his back! When he runs leaves a rainbow behind

Sent from my Galaxy Captivate, not that you care, just saying...
[Off-topic] z33dev33l:
And likely again and again until every android fan grows weary of the passing contests. For the record I do the opposite on any iOS forum I visit. I put forth it's benefits that IOS users ignore, I try and educate people because blindly accepting an OS without knowing everything about it certainly isn't a sign of a power user.
[Off-topic] x5starguerillaa:
Dude, (OP), jog on with your attempt at being smart on a android based forum. As has been said, many a time on many a thread written by many a douche like you, if you like IPhones, go buy one and shut up about it. Neither OS is going to kill either any time soon. Its like trying to say Xbox will kill PlayStation, both brands are far too big to be killed off by the release of a single product. Get real man.

Closing statement ;

If you want something that's pretty to look at and easy to use go buy an Iphone.

If you want a pastime, that I at least feel is greatly satisfying, go buy Android.
[Off-topic] memnom:
Kills Android? isn't that a bit premature? Apple makes great devices and great OS'es too. But they cannot kill Android no matter how much they try. The only force capable of doing that is Google and in all sincerity i hope they dont.
[Off-topic] hungry81:
Thread won.

Horse Beats cow cause you can ride them AND Milk them.
[Off-topic] Archer:
Edit: I take back the "obvious troll" statement. Whilst I disagree with the OP I see that it was a response to a silly fanboy post that said Android is the iPhone killer, so they're both as bad as each other.

In fact, they both need telling. Obvious Troll returns.
[Off-topic] CamoGeko:
Enjoy changing your wallpaper 10 times a day......why? Because that's pretty much the only thing you can customize.

I think what I'll do today on my Android is flash a new mod for my status bar and change my boot animation as well.

Enuff said.

Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA lightspeed telepathy.
[Off-topic] :
I know right? My question is, why is this thread still open? I thought it was against the rules to post things that could start flaming...:confused:

-Hercules composed this post and threw it at your face to be read-
[Off-topic] DAXGr:
Answer to OP: Because it has an apple logo on it. Seriously if the gs2 and iPhone 4S had branding reversed(apple->gs2 as 4S ...) you would still be insisting that apple phone rul3z.....
[Off-topic] Arsaw:
I always recommend Iphone to those who want to use smartphone for the 1st time. After they familiar with smartphone concept, then I recommend them to upgrade to Android which required more input from users on how should their smartphone looks and behave. ;-) Hehe
[Off-topic] cccb010:
:P

Apple said iPhone sold 5million (LOL, google can lie too)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] logged101:
of hardware acceleration? Would it make the phone faster and smoother than the SGS2 from tmobile?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] OuncE718:
I would like to think so because Google will optimize the software specifically for that hardware and they won't stop updating till they get it right. Is the GS2 capable of being faster than the GN? Yes it is, it all just depends on how well the software is optimized for the hardware its on.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gtuansdiamm:
Chances are yes

The t mo gs II has a disgusting processor (dont flame me for that)

Ti omap should be better if not on par to the exynos which is better than the snapdragon u guys have

G nexus is a NEXUS (keyword) so it will definitely run really smooth

And if ics does have hardware accel google has officialy incorperated god mode into android
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] OuncE718:
The S3 processor isn't disgusting, but it definitely isn't gonna out perform the Exynos or Texas Instrument. I can't keep stressing the fact about optimization. If the software is optimized well then our phone will be able to compete. Have you ever played with a Windows Phone 7 phone? The phone's hardware is out of date, but the phone's UI and transitions perform excellent. Our hardware is very capable of the same exact things as the GN.