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[Acer Iconia A500] duloz:
Humans share genes with fruit flies. Do some reading, you will find it... if you believe that this could even remotely be a possible outcome of convergent evolution, then I've got a working flux capacitor you might be interested in...
[Acer Iconia A500] Biologos:
*Sigh*. Ok, first of all, we have very, very strong evidence in favour of evolution from a common ancestor. Simply the fact that the DNA code is the same from microbia to plants to animals is a strong hint. No just the same few chemicals, but also the same code, and the same order of processes takes place.

Secondly, at first you didn't say that. You said that reptiles and mammals (actually rabbits) evolved from different primordial soups, which is simply not the case. When the first metabolically active protocells occured, everything that was not alive, was food. All the good meals, chemically speaking, were unavailable for a new genesis.

Now, can we go back to something that resembles the original topic?
[Acer Iconia A500] mburke178:
what's all this evolution you guys are speaking of? i though we were created by god
[Acer Iconia A500] hatefuel19:
In the beginning there was dos, and god, bill, and linus saw that it was good.

Sent from my A500
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Oh please, it's bad enough that people are too dumb to understand basic evolutionary science without bringing delusions into the conversation, too.
[Acer Iconia A500] Cactus42:
I think (read 'hope') he was being sarcastic...
[Acer Iconia A500] aatifahmad:
Does that really have something to do with ICS on Iconia? *scratching head*
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
An upgrade for Iconia Tab A500 from HC to ICS will prove the validity of Darwinian evolution theory and that there is no God. I think. :confused: On the other hand, if A500 does not receive such upgrade would that mean we all go to Hell?
[Acer Iconia A500] FloatingFatMan:
Been there, nice place, great BBQ, lots of orgies. ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] duloz:
l LOLed
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
In Hell? What, when did you visit my mom and how do you know her?! I DEMAND ANSWERS.
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
Your mom.....Are we sisters are maybe there are two such evil awful places.But then again my mother told me that my spouse and I along with all our friends are going there.I told her I hope they have nice nude beaches.

WHOOOWEEEEEEEEE.

Never know a ice cream sandwich could envok such conversation. Giggles.

On topic ...I did not see major evolutionary jumps in the ice demonstrations.

Strawberry please ffs.
[Acer Iconia A500] qhorque:
Nope. You are incorrect and merely need to read the articles out there to see there is plenty of dissent in the scientific community. Enough such that the possible paths to life are neither fully known or understood.

Just because the "same code" is present does not mean they share a common ancestor. It just means that life is very similar no matter what.

I've read enough papers on this subject (one of my favorites) that I know I'm right and that there is no conclusive proof that all life came from one cell and one cell alone. While possible, it's not definitive and you can't prove it because neither can all the experts.

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I'll take a working flux capacitor any day.

Just because genes are "shared" does not mean they came from a common ancestor. It just means they are the same. Same sequence, same effects on the organism. That just shows that life is similar on this planet but not that it definitively comes from a single ancestor.
[Acer Iconia A500] starfcker69:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU
[Acer Iconia A500] duloz:
Who wrote these papers you refer to, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson?
[Acer Iconia A500] NH2G:
How is it possible that there are about six full pages of replies that do not directly relate to the thread topic in seven (at the moment) pages.

Now, Android ans iOS are really advancing at very similar paces. Android 3.2 could be about as useful and stable as iPhone OS 3.2 for the iPad 1st Generation. As much as I prefer my A500 (3.2) over my iPad (iOS 5), the iPad's OS is more than a year ahead of Honeycomb at this moment. In my opinion Ice Cream Sandwich has a great chance of giving iOS a run for it's money. I'm sorry I cannot provide a definite answer to the question, so I understand the others straying from topic, but OS X, Luinx, God and Creationism, Really...
[Acer Iconia A500] edscholl:
nope, sorry. you're confusing the theory that everything (we know of) alive having a common ancestor with evolution demanding such. it's not the same thing.
[Acer Iconia A500] duloz:
Genetic similarities between all living things, and the fact that components of DNA don't spontaneously assemble themselves into those genes, let alone DNA, requires those genes to have come from a common source. The complexity of them, and the fact that they do not spontaneously arise is evidence that it happened just once, and is shared... keep in mind that a sound scientific theory is one that is the simplest explaination that is not contradicted by evidence... hence, the absence of any evidence that proves that we did NOT all arise from a common genetic ancestor, when in fact all evidence suggests that we DO, directly means that this is the root of current evolutionary theory.

That is not to say that there won't some day be reliable evidence that disproves this, at which point evolutionary theory will change...
[Acer Iconia A500] ctiger:
OKay, where are we?
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Xda-developers's forums!
[Acer Iconia A500] duloz:
I thought we were pretty clear on this... android and osx both evolved from the same single celled eukaryotic organisms...
[Acer Iconia A500] T-Macgnolia:
Stuck somewhere between a primortial ozz and Unix, we still don't know witch one is the true origin. (falls out of chair laughing, oh it hurts lol)

But really guys lets leave theories of origin for other forums. Remember it was a Ice Cream Sandwich that brought us all here........:p
[Acer Iconia A500] edscholl:
wow, it's like you didn't even read what i wrote. :rolleyes:

i repeat: you're confusing the theory that everything (we know of) alive having a common ancestor with evolution demanding such. it's not the same thing.

i.e. let's presume that everything (we know of) alive *has* a common ancestor. that still doesn't mean evolution demands such, as you claim.
[Acer Iconia A500] duloz:
If you assume the theory of evolution to be the truth of evolution, then my explaination is spot on. And ultimately, that is what scientific theory does, assumes the truth without being able to prove it without a doubt.

Fringe theories and arguements against the logic of mainstream science is the root cause of so many people these days completely rejecting scientific truths in favor of fairy tales. So do us all a favor and stop with the pedantic "theory vs. Truth" string of logic, and accept that, in the eyes of science, when all evidence points to one particular hypothesis, that hypothesis becomes "theory," and thus assumed to be truth until it is all out proven, at which point it becomes "law."

But then, i guess based on your logic, relativity could be false, and thus there is no explaination for the laws of gravity, at which point gravity devolves into just a theory, and in the end can be proven not to exist in the first place...
[Acer Iconia A500] gmfeny:
Keep going guys this is waaaay more interesting than talking about if we were going to get an upgrade to ICS!!!

No sarcasm.
[Acer Iconia A500] tkolev:
Wow, this is not the topic here! The topic was if ICS would catch up with IOS smoothness, not if we would get it.
[Acer Iconia A500] marcos.lennis:
Lol... only in xda world this could happen.
[Acer Iconia A500] chefdave12118:
Back on topic....

Phil from AC seems to think so.

http://m.androidcentral.com/will-my-tablet-get-ice-cream-sandwich
[Acer Iconia A500] tedpc01:
Honeycomb "Smoothness"

I think one thing people forget when comparing Android to IOS and the subject of smoothness comes up; well part of the fact is Android is doing real multitasking, not simply suspending apps as new apps are started. Yes, hopefully Google will make dramatic improvements, just remember multitasking plays a big part and IOS can't even multitask!
[Acer Iconia A500] tkolev:
You forget one thing - multitasking is something the general user doesn't use. He/she wants his/hers music playing in the background and that's about all the multitasking that's ever needed. Apple designs its products with the user experience and design in the first place and being the marketing genius Jobs was things like features and even the laws of physics (remember antennagate) are the last thing that bother their engineers. Who cares if you can't view flash sites or have widgets - look how smooth everything is!
[Acer Iconia A500] erica_renee:
Steve says flashing is illegal in most states and countries.

Being flashy thou is priceless.

We will get icson our tabs.the big question is when and by who first.

My guess,educated by the way, that is will come from the awesome XDA development. First.
[Acer Iconia A500] qhorque:
I seriously doubt one person can speak for the entire "general user" community. Multitasking in the real world is totally prevalent if you look at anyone at work using a computer with Outlook open, a browser open, an IM client open, a media player open, a CAD program open, etc. All are open at the same time.

Now, on a tablet or phone, it *seems to be* a single app at a time device but I have several tasks going at any one time (no, not always but much of the time) on both my phone and my tablet. My friends with iTouch, iPad, or iPhone are switching between apps all the time as if they were all running at the same time. A browser, texting app, calendar, music, and some other app, etc.

So, while I can't speak for the entire general user community either, I see an awful lot that looks like multitasking to me. It's never just one or two things going on at the same time.
[Acer Iconia A500] tkolev:
Noone but the market can speak for the general user. And the iphone has been the best selling phone since its launch. With no multitasking whatsoever, limited connectivity, limited storage and even missing basic features like copy/paste. So yeah - the general user doesn't care about those when having to decide between them and the shiny toy-phone that has a smooth ui. If it was the other way around, WM would still be alive and not replaced by the crippled MS creation called WP. Which by the way has all those same features MIA but if I'm not mistaken has hardware accelerated ui.
[Acer Iconia A500] frankws:
Well according to evolution it all came from nothing.

So I'm related to os, snu , osx, tyu hib, snales, flees, snakes, monkeys, whales and everything you can think of.

Evolution, we came from nothing, what a crock of BS.

They could not find a missing link so now say there was a rapid change.

Or aliens brought us here.

Well where are they, we need their help in solving mankind's problems.
[Acer Iconia A500] WereCatf:
Err... mate, wtf?
[Acer Iconia A500] chefdave12118:
Will you take that BS to anywhere but xda please?
[Acer Iconia A500] lowsum:
Rignt on! No BS, The establishment will probably reveal it in our lifetime.

WereCatf "If I believed in God I'd say his greatest invention was.. boobies." -Me.

I must admit, "they" did a good job! :D
[Acer Iconia A500] JdgM3NT4L:
I think that he is trying to devolve;) the conversation back to the unrelated topic on about page 7 of the thread. Not 100% on that.

If it is, I gotta say it's nice to see someone actually reading every post in a topic... But why that one stuck. I got no guesses :/ .
[Acer Iconia A500] T-Macgnolia:
Hey I try to read every post in any thread I go to (I have read every post in this one). Unless I am looking for a specific answer or explanation. Then I do not read any further unless the end of the thread is with in reason. I figure if you read you will learn and learning makes you not a noob, but a informed person. Now what one does with this knowledge is up to the individual, but I would hope they make use of it. Plus if one reads all they can, and then reads all they can again. Then they are entitled to ask a question if they need to. It is all about self motivation and using your most important resource, your brain.
[Acer Iconia A500] BrianDigital:
Nah bro ios is for you get it now.
[Acer Iconia A500] T-Macgnolia:
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Acer Iconia A500] tkolev:
Yeah, I know it's really confusing to see someone actually posting on the topic of the thread and not if we are the offspring of a monkey having b#tt s#x with a retarded fish-frog :D :D :D
[Acer Iconia A500] :
now we have all three ICS threads to the top in order. Wanna bet someone else starts yet another one? :rolleyes:
[Acer Iconia A500] tedpc01:
All this over me mentioning multitasking-wtf? lol If you don't believe that you are multitasking in Android, click on the icon for running apps.
[Acer Iconia A500] BrianDigital:
Was I supposed to compare to am os thats not out lol was just feeding the guy a dumb answer for his dumb question.

Now the topic will be can ics scroll as smooth as windows 10
[Acer Iconia A500] qhorque:
I hear what you are saying but please do a Google search on cell phone market share. You will see that iPhone is around 25%, certainly no more than 30% meaning 70-75% is "other" including Android and Windows which can multitask. Indeed, Android is most definitely over 30%.

While Apple likes to appear ubiquitous, it's really not and I believe the market has definitely spoken in favor of a more multitasking phone.
[Acer Iconia A500] groaner:
I was just about to start a ICS thread!

lol

http://slatedroid.info/2011/10/acer...scoops-of-ice-cream-sandwich-in-january-2012/
[Acer Iconia A500] :
Glad you didn't, but nice find in your link ;)
[Acer Iconia A500] edscholl:
wow, it's like you didn't read what i wrote yet again. or you just don't get it. :rolleyes:

i made no comment on your explanation, or the truth.

as i EXPLICITLY stated, even if we presume the truth is as you stated, that STILL doesn't mean EVOLUTION demands a common ancestor. even if there IS one. get it? if not, what the heck are you missing? :D
[Acer Iconia A500] duloz:
No, you just can't read for content. I was responding to exactly what you were saying, you're just talking out your ass... everyone else here moved on over the weekend to actually talking about ice cream sandwich, what don't you get?

You can't extract the theory of evolution from evolution and not sound like a troll or else have read too much sci-fi, dude. As i clearly stated, evolution as we can understand it from an evidence based perspective does, in fact, demand that we accept the common ancestor theory, as that is the ACCEPTED method of evolution amongst the scientific consensus...

Now will you stop trolling and let this sidebar die, so we can keep all four of the ice cream sandwich threads on topic from now on?
[Acer Iconia A500] D_Steve595:
Must have made a wrong turn at the Charles Darwin fan forum.

Could someone direct me towards XDA?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kezgez:
Hi all, I know its down to personal preference, but, I have a SGS1 with 16GB internal memory running 2.3.3. stock, so getting a SGS2 would not improve any of that, do you think its worth getting the SGS2? what would you all do and what would be the improvement i would see?

Thanks for your thoughts:D
[Galaxy S I9000 General] gsw5700:
Been playing with one this weekend, they are very fast, have lots of memory and white ones look great.

The downside, everyone has one, sound is worse than SGS1, nexus prime out soon. I would personally get the nexus or wait for the SGS3 etc, surely you want something a bit different, the 2 is just a little bigger and a little faster

Sent using TCP/IP
[Galaxy S I9000 General] upichie:
16 GB and 2.3.3... nope, you're right. There would be no improvement whatsoever. (Seriously? :confused:)

This, by far. +1
[Galaxy S I9000 General] greeced:
My wife picked one up a week ago, so I can truly compare mine to it side by side and I would say, I like it a lot.

1. Much, much faster.

2. There doesn't appear to be any Lag involved

3. Battery doesn't seem to last very long, but as I tested that part of it early on, it may need a few cycled charges to really say how good/bad it is.

4. GPS is way better than the SGS.

Now, having said all that, the phone is perfect for my wife (she bought the white one). She, having been a long-time blackberry user til her 9700 screen crapped out has been getting used to it, but she's starting to like this phone much better than her blackberry.

Like I said though.. its perfect for my wife. She doesn't know Gingerbread from Shortbread when it comes to this phone, and I intend to keep it that way. Yes this phone runs 2.3.3, but it doesn't seem to bad compared to my SGS with stock 2.3.3 as well. My phone is rooted, but I don't have intentions of rooting hers.

Long story short, its blazing fast, but I wouldn't buy one for myself. Samsung is just too slow on firmware updates to make it worth it for me. In fact any carrier specific phone would be. They are Androids, but they are kind of like Androids bastardized cousin. For me, my next phone is a nexus. I want it to grow as Android grows, and that only happens with Google.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] franklin01:
Should wait for SGS 3, far better specs this phone will be awesom

http://phandroid.com/2011/10/10/is-...rther-details-leak-on-samsungs-next-flagship/
[Galaxy S I9000 General] SkinBobUk:
My Mrs has a black sgs2 and comparing it to my original sgs is tough.

On the plus side the screen and speed of the sgs2 are really nice. However for everyday use i find it just that little bit too big, also the handset doesn't feel as strong as the original. Im reasonably confident i could drop my phone and survive to tell the tale, but with the 2 i find myself being really careful.

Sound on the 2 really isn't anywhere near the standard of original, i like to hear my music, although I've not seen if supercurio has made much progress on the 2.

Sent From My Android Shizzle!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] greeced:
I agree, those are awesome specs. But then again, so are the SGII's... definitely not comparable, but awesome nonetheless.

My whole point in this is, specs are just that... specs. The SGS II that my wife has is amazing specs wise. Its head over heals better specs wise than my SGS1.

Here's the problem though... aside from flashier graphics, a bigger screen, and a flash for the camera, its still 2.3.3. So its not a great leap for me to go to it.... its essentially the same phone if you think about it. Sure, the SGS2 will most likely get the upgrade to ICS, but when? After Jello or whatever 'J' is comes out?

The SGS3 will suffer the same fate. It will be up to Samsung to update it, not google.

The SGS3 will be a great phone, but you'll have to wait for a developer to harness its true power. Just like the SG2 and SGS1.

Whereas any nexus incarnation will have google behind it, and updated accordingly.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
1.8 GHz dual core, 2GB RAM and samoled plus HD (read: RGB, not pentile)...daaaamn. I'm dropping cash on that the day it comes out unless I get a Nexus Prime instead. The rounded shape makes it look pretty big though.

Could be total BS though, there are two mistakes on the slide: copying is spelt wrong and the SGS doesn't have exynos cpu it has hummingbird. It's also weird that the "copying or reproduction is not allowed" is located like that, usually it would be along the bottom of each slide in a presentation so as not to interfere with any of the content. The way it is kind of screams "single fake slide".
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Rootax:
For the record, Samsung renamed all their SoC to Exynos xxxx, even humingbird. I find this stupid, but that's how it is.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kezgez:
ok, thanks guys, lots to think about.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] upichie:
I have no problem running stock AOSP Android on any SGS, so what exactly are you waiting for? You say we have to wait for Samsung, then we have to wait for a developer... but in reality, ICS will be on the SGS2 with practically no wait at all.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mnicesio:
Please wait a few months to nexus prime. You wont regret!
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kezgez:
seen the specs for the galaxy nexus think the SGS II looks better
[Galaxy S I9000 General] greeced:
"Official Samsung Firmwares" are never instantaneous, at least not here in Canada they aren't.

I mean think about it. The original SGS was the flagship phone, and we had to wait a long to go to Froyo when it first came out to the rest of the world... then while the rest of the world was enjoying bug fixes inside 2.2.1, we in Canada never received a 2.2.1 update at all.

Then go over to Gingerbread. Took forever for Canada to yet again see 2.3.3. But that is where Canada is at right now.. INCLUDING THE CURRENT FLAGSHIP SGS2. The rest of the world is either enjoying 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 or 2.3.6.

Lets not even mention the blatant, "reproduceable for anyone" bugs that are in 2.3.3 but not 2.3.4 for our I9000M's... namely swype speech button not working at all on the SGS.

AOSP? You'd have to fill me in on where you're getting your roms that don't void warranty for using them. Thats not a point I care about, but many others out there do.

The SGS2 (My wifes) was released AFTER 2.3.4 came out... yet they put 2.3.3 on it. That make any sense to anyone?

Sure it makes sense.. Carrier branded or "Locked" phones get in the way of quick releases for obvious reasons, and beyond that, samsung has 10 billion different incarnations of the same device that may need tweaking here or there to the rom. Hence slowdowns.

Having said all this, Google Phones don't have that problem.... The Nexus Prime will be what? the 3rd or 4th phone released under the Nexus name? Easy to code for, find bugs and release an update.

All these specs we are seeing for the SGS 3 may or may not be real. Same goes for the Nexus Prime. We'll have to wait and see.... but to me, quick support and updates mean everything.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kezgez:
please correct me if im wrong but the galaxy nexus is made by samsung so wont we have the same software update waits that we get with the SGS1 and 2
[Galaxy S I9000 General] haloimplant:
No the nexus s is also Samsung but nexus phones get software straight from google.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] xdapao3:
I have had a Galaxy S for 6 months and I upgraded to a Galaxy S2 a couple of weeks ago.

On the SG1 sound over the earphones is better, battery lasts longer and... that's all.

Everything else is better on the SG2 but the true big reason to upgrade, for me, was the SG2'S 1Gb RAM. I multitask a lot and even with bigmem firmwares and GalaxyTuner task-killer tuning I had apps having to reload almost every time I switched back to them (especially when one of the ones open in the background was the browser, which was very often).

That's the big single reason to upgrade, for me, and I am VERY happy with the SG2 in this regard. This phone is a multitasking king.

Having said all of that, unless you have similar needs I wouldn't advise upgrading. Everything is better on the SG2 but not enough, IMO, to make the upgrade worth it. Wait for something which is a bigger improvement over the SG1, like the Note (not for everyone, I know, but going to be my next smartphone in 6 months or so) or the SG3.

BTW, I see the Galaxy Nexus mentioned a lot, to me it's inferior to my SG2 (NO SD CARD SLOT!?!) apart obviously from ICS, which the SG2 is going to get.