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[Xoom General] Psyclic_1:
With the dev preview only being x86/64 at the moment we will have to wait for the ARM version to be released before anything can be done on the Xoom. I cant wait to see if there are any devs that can get it going.....a dual boot with ICS would be fantastic :D
[Xoom General] s.t.s:
I am sure it is faster when rooted and overclocked ... just haven't got round to doing it yet ... kind of resent having to do it to get a user experience that might be close to acceptable

I know that there is no arm preview yet but I believe the min spec is detailed ... are there any things we fall short of?

sent from my mz604

you live and learn ... at any rate you live
[Xoom General] kenfly:
guys, I'd hate to burst your bubbles, but there were around 4 posts about win 8 on the xoom and all of them came to the conclusion that it wouldn't work, or at least, very unlikely. Windows is closed source. Its not like Ubuntu or any other Linux distro that we can modify.

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There was a bunch of windows 8 topics on xoom but not looking good. And development will get better overall on xoom when ics comes out because you have to remember, honeycomb source wasn't released and never will be. Ics will be open source though.
[Xoom General] double1:
Android may soon do more than windows can. By the time WIN8 comes out in arm form android will be on key lime pie. ;)
[Xoom General] wasserkapf:
What really is needed is a full Linux version for the Xoom. Linux is already available for ARM CPUs. But what is needed is the kernel patch for the Xoom, and the hardware drivers.

Stop pining for windows, as there are already plenty of gadgets with it on it. I just purchased a Azpen X1 tablet. The 16GB drive is so small, that I ran out of space the first time that I ran the windows update!! I got a 32GB drive for it, and will install Ubuntu on it. I use Linux for everything, and found that windows is very over rated.
[Xoom General] s.t.s:
Not sure how Windows is "over rated" ... it seems everyone is out to say mac/ios/linux is better than it. If linux is so great why are you giving it double the storage space the windows install was offered ;-)

I know windows is closed source ... but the hardware appears to be very similar to other tablets that run windows, it would just be a case of suitable drivers?

ICS may improve things but it still doesn't feel like the direction android is headed in is where I hoped/expected in terms of offering tablet optimized/specific applications.

Windows 8 looks a lot more like the tablet os I would like to use ... I guess time will tell.

sent from my mz604

you live and learn ... at any rate you live
[Xoom General] wasserkapf:
At first I intended to give 16GB to each OS. But since widows barely fits on 16 GB, I decided against it.

What other tablets like the Xoom run windows? Windows only runs on the Intel family of CPUs (and clones), while most tablets have an ARM CPU.
[Xoom General] patass:
samsung has a dev tablet out that runs windows 8. they gave it out at some convention.
[Xoom General] kenfly:
Yes and nobody is going to sit down and spend the time and write drivers for a closed source OS. Especially from scratch. Not to sound like a jerk, but if you're bored of your xoom, sell it and get a windows slate
[Xoom General] patass:
lol i never said i was tired of it, but windows 8 from what I played with it on the desktop is a more practical platform. Often times I'm using splashtop to access my desktop at home. You're mad.

also people write custom drivers for windows all the time. custom graphics card drivers, controller drivers, etc.
[Xoom General] kenfly:
Look at it this way, most other hc tablets have a port of Ubuntu, which is open source, and we don't. If nobody wants Ubuntu enough to work with the open source os, who is going to work with closed source windows 8?
[Xoom General] s.t.s:
That is another thing that I just dont get ... it really feels like my best informed choice to get the XOOM was the wrong one. Moto are not pushing the development and user experience like I had hoped and the dev community hasn't been set alight either :-(

Still I hope we see some stuff soon. For now I will just have to try one of the few android roms :-)

sent from my mz604

you live and learn ... at any rate you live
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiwas:
Hi guys,

Sorry if this has been covered, but I couldn't find anything. Also, this question is not "when will ICS be released" ;)

I've never used a custom rom with my SGS, so I was wondering which ROMs are considered the most stable, and which devs usually get new versions out quick with few bugs. The reason is I can then follow the thread for that ROM and see who pushes it out first :D

Cheers!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheSaw:
Your question is still stupid. Nevertheless, most probably teamhacksung will be the first with their CM ROM. Most other AOSP ROMs just use their work to create their own.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Archer:
I'd recommend following these 2 forums, and you will definitely get the 1st version of ICS available on this site...

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiwas:
Please help me understand why it's stupid to know which devs to follow?

Cheers! I'll have a look :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nutmegy:
cruel cruel cruel... funny but cruel :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiwas:
It actually could have been relevant if he(?) at least answered who were regarded to be the best chefs and the most stable ROMs...
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DSA:
its not a competition

Try them all and see for yourself.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Archer:
It was perfectly relevant. I can't tell you what you're going to like. You need to do what most other people do and try things for yourself. If someone offered you vanilla, chocolate or strawberry, would you ask them which was best or just try them?

Anyway, your question was...

No-one can possibly answer that. Watch the development forums and find out like the rest of us.

Anyway, it will probably be available AOSP before any "flavouring" is done, as the Nexus is AOSP.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CamoGeko:
Villain.

Transmitted from a Galaxy far far away via XDA lightspeed telepathy.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morning thunder:
When ever i want to record or capture it gives these waves and they move very fast from down to up and its really annoying

I have these waves with I9000 rom and with KJ3 rom i tried everything and nothing worked

Before i didn't have these waves until a month ago

* Is there a firmware for this issue or its an individual?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sa1yan:
Weird.

Try flashing to stock and see if you have that same problem.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morning thunder:
I'll try this one
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nini8888:
now got bootloader unlock , got passible for 16m colot on x10 ? :confused:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crowds:
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zojakownith:
when i got this phone(x10a) around ~6 months ago i upgraded the firmware to 2.1-update 1, the baseband to 2.1.54. I rooted the phone, installed xrecovery, drivers etc...

Im looking to upgrade the firmware to 2.3 and possibly getting cyanogenmod. I know that you have to root the phone before you install 2.3, but will upgrading the baseband, or upgrading to 2.3 remove my current root access?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dawja5215:
No it won't remove your root access.Mostly because the ROM is already pre-rooted.However,there's a step you need to do after flashing to 2.3 that is upgrading the baseband before turning on the phone.Failure to do this,your phone may not work.

Try this ROM: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1192988

There's a basic guide there for 2.1 to 2.3 upgrade along with a video tutorial.
[General Questions and Answers] themanice:
Hello,

I was trying to flash to CM 7.1

This is what I get:

fastboot -i 0xfce flash boot boot.img

sending 'boot' (3458 KB)... INFOUSB download speed was 136192kB/s

OKAY

writing 'boot'... FAILED (remote: Wrong range:0x10008000-0x1033e3bf. Ok:0x002000

00 - 0x03dfff)

For some strange reason i do get different errors everytime. I'm pretty sure that the bl unlock is all good. I already had to relock and reflash it just to get it going again. Any clues where the error is?

I would have some screenshots, just can't post them yet.
[Desire HD General] topupcash:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_releases_official_statement_regarding_ice_cream_sandwich-news-3291.php

looks like htc has begun work on their future. Hope a leaked rom will come around soon :D
[Desire HD General] hdorius:
yes,i am waiting for it too....:)
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd

https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/A9Y3DhxGyP7
[Desire HD General] HACKDROID_X:
@hamdir are you saying thte dhd will get official ics?
[Desire HD General] matthew33:
"The just-unveiled Ice Cream Sandwich version of Android (aka Android 4.0) may not be coming to some of HTC’s best-selling smarties, a statement from the phone-maker suggests.

Google lifted the lid on the new iteration of its platform yesterday. Melding the choicest features of the Honeycomb tablet-optimised version with the Gingerbread edition for smartphones, Ice Cream Sandwich brings a smart new multi-tasking interface with slicker notifications and widgets to Android phones, as well as revamped takes on native apps.

But if you’re an HTC Android phone owner, you’d best not get too excited just yet."

According to:

http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news...ream_sandwich_ruled_out_for_htc_desire_range/
[Desire HD General] hopscotchjunkie:
That sounds promising actually: HTC won't release the update to those devices "if it feels an update would compromise their usability." I don't see any reason why it should, but even if they don't release it that sounds like they'll be testing it so there's sure to be leaked test ROMs to play with.

//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.
[Desire HD General] topupcash:
+1 it doesn't really matter if our phones get the official update. What really matters is that HTC has said they will be working on ics and sense, and that means our devs will have some upcoming work to do (:
[Desire HD General] akakitsu:
Awesome, can't wait to see what they come up with.
[Desire HD General] llawarta:
Great news!

Waiting the first rom with ICS leaked or official.

The desire devs are hands on!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1310914

DHD devs what are you waiting :) !
[Desire HD General] hard.rocker:
great news ,cant wait :)
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
where are too in love with sense to bother :D
[Desire HD General] T3nzin:
I doubt the Desire HD will get the official update.
[Desire HD General] topupcash:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/android-4-...elopers-and-users-all-around-the-world-video/

We're sooooooooooo close!
[Desire HD General] hard.rocker:
yes we are so close maybe one or two weeks :)
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
here you go, you can relax now

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150493158328084
[Desire HD General] Aamir.Badat:
will have to wait for a few weeks to see if the DHD is in the update list till then flash away keep the hope and for me and some other fellows puff on the herb ;)
[Desire HD General] peacekeeper05:
Well HTC uses the same chip for all their android line up. I guess it wouldn't be so hard for them to update majority of their phones unlike samsung, moto, LG that uses tegra, TI, Exynos and qualcomm. :) i am still hoping that our DHDs will get the official update.
[Desire HD General] plipness:
well i honestly think that the Desire HD is the most powerful device among the 1Ghz single core phones in terms of GPU and RAM and all others it is very powerful...if HTC will say ICS will compromise the performance of the device i think it's only a marketing strategy and the DEVS will prove it
[Desire HD General] paul c:
Agreed - I think the high end phones like the DHD will run ICS without a problem. It's still high end, if you compare its CPU/GPU/RAM with other devices. However the mid-range phones won't, and I'd expect HTC to be conservative about their decisions there.

All the same, once the cooks get going, I think the ROMs will be even better than HTC standard ;)
[Desire HD General] evanbigfan:
great news :)
[Desire HD General] Oli28:
great cant wait!!!

:D
[Desire HD General] Aamir.Badat:
I'm sure I read somewhere where htc said sense will need a big revamp because ics is amazingly impressive to the eye so looks like runny mede / sensation 4.0 ports should be available if these devices get an update I will be upset because of the face lock but oh well
[Desire HD General] topupcash:
Why should you be upset? Face lock is cool but doesn't work THAT well yet. You won't want someone else taking your picture and unlocking your phone with that pic would you? :D
[Desire HD General] awwilson21:
Won't be surprised if it never comes for any single-core HTC phones, HTC sucks. (sorry but it's true)
[Desire HD General] mr. biggums:
honestly, if the nexus S got it the desire hd shouldn't have a problem, if anything just give us the dam official rom without sense and someone here will find a way to put it, so we can be happy.
[Desire HD General] Aamir.Badat:
Is that possible daymn that's bull**** taking a photo of me and unlocking my phone if that's possible I'm happy I don't have a front facing camera and htc are better when it comes to updating there phones motorola take there time and I think Samsung just release leaks most of the time
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
anyone knows if google enforces some restrictions on custom UI with ICS like they do with honeycomb?

i certainly hope so, seeing ICS in action, this is the first time i can say, its better to keep it as neat as it is and no custom UIs messing with it

HTC honeycomb tablets have limited customization am i correct?

i mean HTC can add all the widgets and apps it want but please no more sense frame work stuff

never mind i just looked up HTC jetstream, Sense is all over honeycomb...
[Desire HD General] stevysg:
thats sounds great
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
HTC will always add sense to their devices. It is their main selling point. People want easy to use. And sense does that. Wrapped everything you need into one package.
[Desire HD General] raze599:
Couldn't agree more :D
[Desire HD General] zahir.dk:
This indeed is a great news
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
more updates from our Sense dude, Desire Z is out :eek: seems DHD will receive it a little later, Nexus one is out too! very bad move from google if you ask me

i wish they don't mess with the look of ICS and instead just provide their extras, i know its only wishes

https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/6ev33ch3xHi

https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd

and this for fun :cool: i doubt their best selling and still selling device will be left out

https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/CK21i8tnsNf
[Desire HD General] SsZzliMm:
:-S

This news is great and wonderful, but I think the Desire HD won't get the ICS. Still didn't get the Sense 3.0 or 3.5, so ... :confused:
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
yes because the update has been delayed to include 3.5 and now maybe it will be pushed to have ICS
[Desire HD General] SsZzliMm:
Ohh, man ! I wish you were right and we, Desire HD owners will get an official ICS upgrade :) Let's speak prophet from you :P
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
man check the links this guy is the part of the Sense dev team and he is an owner of a DHD himself
[Desire HD General] labarbacoa:
If it works on the dhd then surely it would work on the inspire, right?
[Desire HD General] stiflingcobra:
Even if we don't get ICS at least we should get Sense 3.5 which runs very fast and smooth on the Rom I currently have on my Desire HD... Sense 3.5 really is a major leap from 2.1
[Desire HD General] nikorette:
Yes but as mentioned previously. Telco branded phones will recieve ICS later than those with stock HTC devices.
[Desire HD General] AA--92:
Hope we get ics
[Desire HD General] substance12:
nevermind.

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[Desire HD General] romerjon:
New official statement doesn't mention the DHD. Samarth Rasiwasia from HTC said our update to ICS would come in a second wave later...
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
But he has now deleted that post from Google Plus.
[Desire HD General] romerjon:
Jeah, just saw it... Luckily we soon get a custom rom! :-)
[Desire HD General] SsZzliMm:
That's pretty funny I think. And when the second wave begins and there will be no mention about upgrading DHD to ICS what will he say ? Third wave ??? XD
[Desire HD General] :
I would bet on the rom leak for Runnymede for DHD to have a port ... :D
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
yes he deleted both the new and old posts regarding ICS on DHD, what a mess

i guess we can forget about the update now

if HTC doesn't bring ICS to the DHD, i'll no longer restrict myself to HTC devices, equally i will move to Cyanogen once and for all
[Desire HD General] kuklux:
Dont forget we have a good developer than can port it....
[Desire HD General] TelusHTCHero:
I've also determined that, since HTC seems to be dragging their feet about ICS for the DHD, my next phone will definitely be a Nexus; most likely the one that gets announced next year. I figure I can wait until my contract is at least half-done before upgrading (3-year contract started in March/April).
[Desire HD General] renehd2:
i dont think samart is a "real developer of HTC" since almost everything he has said have been false :o

but i hope that i'm wrong
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
well I tend to disagree, he did post the one and only leaked screenshots of sense 3.5 on DHD with Android 2.3.5. Also he said about Sense 4.0 with ICS which will only be confirmed once updates to Sensation and others start rolling out. Also the list of devices he gave for update to ICS was absolutely bang-on other than ommission of DHD and Desire Z. He is definitely on Sense development team, though ya even I wonder whether he knows and has access to anything else about HTC Android upgrades and all.
[Desire HD General] romerjon:
But obviously he's less restrictive with updates than his employer...
[Desire HD General] knoobie:
maybe he got his sense 3.5 on his DHD from some ROMs here! :P
[Desire HD General] renehd2:
well actually the sense 3.5 that he supposed to leaked for the DHD was a Bliss sense, and actually i dont think bliss sense was made for DHD because bliss was made for girls.. and also he posted the pics after that the ROM was made here in DHD android development forum, so that doesnt prove nothing, also all those devices that he claimed to get ICS was obvious because those are the newest devices, he at the beginning said n1 was going to have ICS, after the news about n1 not getting ICS he deleted that, then after the official words of HTC about the devices getting ICS then, he deleted his posts... so make your own thoughts :)
[Desire HD General] hamdir:
whatever is the case if HTC does not update the DHD which is their best selling android device ever it proves they are only concerned with demand for current devices and not serving their fans
[Desire HD General] renehd2:
Totally agreed, but i anyways would prefer the custom Roms even of htc make an official one os it doesnt matter at all
[Desire HD General] DeadlyCords:
Even if HTC does not initially release ICS for DHD, they eventually must!

The same thing happened to me on the sony ericsson xperia x10 forums with gingerbread. SE said that they would never release gingerbread to xperia x10, but due to the ENORMOUS amount of complaints from customer base, they decided to go ahead and update it.

I think this will be the case if HTC decide not to release ICS to Desire HD! Letting them know your opinion can change things. Plus HTC has a greater history of listening to their customers (you'd be surprised how shocking SE were).
[Desire HD General] abhishekagrawal:
Well if you see that Software info page on those Screenshots it was not the custom ROM posted here, also if you see the date uploaded, it was before the same ROM was put here in xda and ported to DHD, so according to your assumtion either he is a great developer porting it himself to DHD before it was in xda or he genuinely had access to DHD ROM with Sense 3.5. Whatever it is, I hope we have ICS for our DHD.

Well HTC Facebook page is up in riots demanding ICS for Desire HD/Inspire 4G and the same happened after they announced no GB for Desire and eventually bowed down and released a stripped off version of GB for Desire though with clauses. I feel even if originally not planned, because of all outcry maybe eventually they will release ICS for DHD.
[Desire HD General] scorpio09:
+ 1

This will be my last HTC phone if HTC don't release ICS. I think we should not support HTC by buying their devices if they don't support their own old customers..

Swyped from my DHD using XDA Premium
[Desire HD General] middlep1:
What is with all the "I hope HTC releases an ICS update for the DHD", why care if they don't

At the end of the day the best ROM's for the DHD come from the chefs in this forum, not from HTC, our chefs give us optimised ROM's for speed (OC), better battery life (UV), and much more frequent updates with the latest app releases from the various HTC phones on the market, and a wealth of community support, no manufacturer can come close to this.

Personally I look forward to Capychimp and the RCMix team getting their hands on any official HTC ICS/Sense 4.0 ROM because they'll bring it to the DHD before HTC do

For all those threatening to abandon HTC if there is no ICS for DHD, don't cut your nose off to spite your face.... Root, Download, Flash be happy...
[Desire HD General] scorpio09:
I am on rooted DHD as well and agree with you that installing the custom ROM ported from another ICS device would do the trick.

But it is still bad from HTC Customer service perspective as everyone has to root their mobiles to get the latest update. Not all are aware of rooting and we can't fault them for not rooting their devices. Just imagine all the latest HTC devices with locked bootloaders and tampering it voids warranty. So all those customers will lose their warranty if they want to get latest updates.

Wouldn't it makes sense to HTC to release an official statement after completely analysing all the devices. Personally I will also flash a custom ICS ROM but will be very careful getting another HTC Device, also due to their crappy internal memory.

Swyped from my DHD using XDA Premium
[Desire HD General] CitizenLee:
Totally agree. Personally when it comes to getting a new phone I care more about the XDA support and availability of custom ROMs than any manufacturer support or proposed update plans. Besides, HTC don't owe us anything.
[Desire HD General] Elvara:
I agree with you even if I use rom made here, when you buy a 600 euros phone in 2010 and they won't even give latest update a year later, frankly I'm not sure I'll buy an HTC phone next time...
[Desire HD General] zelendel:
It is the same with all phones. The only one that you are sure will get updates is the Nexus line. If you are all about updates then I would go with that. Any other phone you can't be sure it will get updates
[Desire HD General] romerjon:
I totally agree! That's why my next phone probably will be the galaxy nexus...
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Rather annoyed too with the Desire S; same specs as dhd, doesn't look to be getting ICS, and its only 7 months old... :(

Hope we are the next wave..
[Desire HD General] cas_uk:
Well said and +1:D
[Desire HD General] Marcdu81:
Hello, updated successful for me ( Android 2.3.5 and htc sense 3.0 ) , a good present for Christmas !
[Desire HD General] olyloh6696:
Not ICS.

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Sent from my HTC Desire S