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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekkitan:
Good point tbh :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
They release the source on the day the device running it goes on sale.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsteven77x:
Highly doubt we will get it anywhere near that soon. It will be a EXCLUSIVE for the Nexus Galaxy for at least a few months to encourage people to buy the new one before it gets on older phones. You can mark my words if you want.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shrivelfig:
Absolutely not. There are quite a few other choices than just Android and IOS.

:rolleyes:

Now, if Apple were to unlock their precious walled garden, then I'd definitely be tempted. I like IOS. But I like freedom much more.

:cool:
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rapidreinsta:
You got a point. But again, I wish that's not true.

Asus and few other manufacturers seem to have phones running ICS lined up for Nov release.

All we don't is when they'll roll the SNS ICS truck.

Let's pray to the android gods .... Amen Andy Rubin... Amen Vic Gundotra ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaxCarnage:
The Nexus One got Gingerbread weeks after the Nexus S was released, not months.

EDIT: Nope, I'm wrong on this. It was months later. Sorry for the confusion.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benrees21:
I hate BLN. it's crap compared to a nice multicolored LED like the Galaxy Nexus has. Yes MMMMMM indeed.

Sent from my Nexus S running NSCollab ROM and Morfics Thermite Beast Kernel.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
It most certainly did not.

http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/22/gingerbread-nexus-one/

posted on February 22nd, 2011

Nexus One owners, the surprisingly long wait is (almost) over: today Google has begun pushing out the latest version of Android, codenamed Gingerbread, to Nexus One devices. The rollout will likely take a few days, but you should be expecting an Over The Air update very soon...

As regards "when", well, Google's Matt Cutts had the following to say earlier today;

https://plus.google.com/u/0/109412257237874861202/posts/U9Tugyh5UQX?hl=en

Now that Ice Cream Sandwich (the newest version of Android) has been revealed, I can tell you that I've been testing ICS on my Nexus S.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] onthecouchagain:
:O

ICS rolling out a couple of weeks after GNexus.

http://www.tmonews.com/2011/10/ice-...a-couple-of-weeks-after-galaxy-nexus-release/
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] castro08:
Nice find! Did you read the comments? He didn't get to answer the zero lag question:(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Babydollll:
No. The Nexus One got gingerbread A MONTH after release. How do I know? I had one and followed that announcement and roll out VERY CAREFULLY.

It's a tablet dammit! Not a BIG phone....
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt2053:
All I know is it will be on my phone about ~40 minutes after source code is released! :D

(that's how long it takes my machine to compile a build from AOSP).
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spittal:
What he said!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LancerEVA06:
But will Samsung release the binary files at the same time source is released?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zanza00:
ICS will be something like a xmas present from google to us NS users ?

an early one i hope :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
No it did not.

Gingerbread's release was 16th December 2010 (ie. the NS release date).

Nexus One Gingerbread roll out started 22nd February 2011.

I too had a Nexus One and followed it 'VERY CAREFULLY'. More 'CAREFULLY' than you it would appear.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YourMainDude:
Lol served!

Sent From In between Your Moms Boobies
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdahd2:
I think that it will get an official OTA about 2-3 weeks later
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] churro7:
But will it look like ICS does for galaxy nexus? have all of its features? remember this is a 512mb ram device not a 1gb :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tenhi:
There's ROM dump already...so maybe we can make something of it :D...Check Galaxy Nexus section...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] castro08:
Lol there a section already? It not showing up in the app
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Esteway.619:
U might have to uninstall then reinstall the app for it to show.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tekkitan:
i like noLED more than BLN or some dumb little LED tbh

---------- Post added at 07:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:53 PM ----------

man read the thread, we already established that.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drzfr3shboialex:
Yeah but remember 2.2 with the nexus one google said upcoming Weeks and it got days later
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdpyo:
they added it last night, high priority
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
1) At that point there was no other Nexus to offer any competition

2) It came out so fast because it was leaked (FRF50), the official release (FRF85B) was about a month and a half later.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bringonblink:
1. YES NEXUS WILL GET ICS. DEFINATELY. Stop asking this question everyone.

2. Yes you can build ICS from SDK but it will take time and effort and probably run like crap. Better to wait for source code .

3.Google can not do a mass update like apple, because updates have to be tested by carriers first. The carriers decide when to roll out the updates.

4. No one knows WHEN the source will be released, its all guestimations at the moment. MY PERSONAL view is that the prime or galaxy nexus will run it exclusivly for a month.

oh and everyone stop fretting if their phone will get it or not. CYANOGEN MOD ALL THE PHONES
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albundy2010:
Google controls updates with the nexus line / ged devices not the carriers.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rapidreinsta:
Correct! http://tinyurl.com/6j6guoa Doesn't seem that far...
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YourMainDude:
O.o Mr. Grouch! Lol

Sent From In between Your Moms Boobies
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YourMainDude:
=_= Question is... Which Model Will Receive It First...

Sent From In between Your Moms Boobies
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leerobson99:
I think sprint model will, they seem to be getting all the google love lately! I would like to see all variants get it at the same time though!

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaxCarnage:
Except of course that the Galaxy Nexus will supposedly be a Verizon exclusive, for the time being at least.

As I have the NS4G I obviously would be thrilled to be first in line to get the ICS update, so if Sprint's good standing with Google would help then I am all for it.

And CyanogenMod is great, but it's not the pure OS that I want. So while it might be a nice way to bide your time, it wouldn't keep me at least from salivating over the OTA release.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Orangestrat:
I bet they all will pretty closely. The NS and N1 got 2.3.3 at the same time. Google didn't push GB to the N1 because before 2.3.3 you couldn't make calls without the phone rebooting randomly, they aren't gonna pull an iOS4 and make the old phone into a useless pile of crap. We'll get ICS as soon as it isn't a downgrade (if it is at all)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3DDude:
of course they can..

Well, we have seen ics running on an nexus s before the release.

So it's not unthinkable that Google has ICS ready for the nexus S phone.

Ok maybe some tweaking / optimizing but I think that if google wants to.. they can release it really fast. :D

I'll be following this topic ^_^
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kibmcz:
Waiting and ready (got alogcat so i can grab url as soon as i get notification) for whenever the OTA is pushed to my i9020a :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidjens:
My crystal ball tells me the forums will soon be flooded with questions about ETA on root for ICS and ROMs based on it :P
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3DDude:
And while you were looking in your crystal ball you couldn't tell the ETA?

Ssssht then because my crystal ball told me that there've been multiple posts such as yours stating the exact same thing..about people that want an ETA. (or should I predict that there are going to be more crystal balls in this topic?)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] algopyrin:
It will not be released before January.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdpyo:
orly?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renna1992:
Google’s Hugo Barra confirmed that the latest version of Android will be delivered as a free upgrade to the existing Nexus S handset “within weeks”. He said the search giant was aiming to get the software to owners of the previous flagship phone shortly after the release of the new Galaxy Nexus handset next month, well in time for Christmas.

was an interview in the british telegraph :)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtracrispy:
Yup!

Mid November ICS update, whee!

It's sad that they cut support for the Nexus ONE though. It wasn't all _THAT_ much slower than the S...... does that mean 1ghz single core / 512 ram is baseline for even an entry level android phone in the very near future?

That's kind of scary but good at the same time. Devs here still don't think you actually NEED the two cores, or even one above 1.0ghz for that matther
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Oh dear, it's happening again isn't it?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsteven77x:
I don't think it has anything to do with speed. It has to do with it being old and them wanting people to upgrade. You can't keep a years old phone and expect the latest and greatest that's kind of ridiculous.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xtracrispy:
if even the most heartless company in the world will support back to a 3GS then google really has no excuse.

From what I've read however, the galaxy nexus is packing the same GPU as the S, while the adreno is significantly slower. I hope for their sake that it was the technical requirements, and not a money grab decision!

Google doesn't make money from selling hand sets.. they make it from more people using android and google services. One would think that if they COULD make the older handsets work, they would stand to profit
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arNooold:
Its going to be legendary with ICS!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strevellick:
I can't wait for ICS...because about 2 weeks after that people are going to say, "When can we expect Jelly Tot?" Let the Jelly Tot release date debate begin! lol
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bringonblink:
Well that doesn't make sense
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 063_XOBX:
I honestly don't think anyone is going to be asking that. Maybe Jelly Bean, but definitely not Jelly Tot.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arifhn:
LOL. you're right. always looping like this

+1 Jelly bean sounds more good
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4I-I:
Since i flashed the first ics port beta i cant go back to gb! Haha fell in love with ics! Cant wait for the official release!! ;)
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowVlican:
well that's what XDA exists for :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leerobson99:
Too right!

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fabulous69:
for my part, i prefer to wait the official release :)

I had an iphone 4 (yes , blame me :D) and flashed the beta on it.

When the official came, i was like, ok its just the official version,no news

here the difference is too important, and as i just received my Nexus S, it will be a 2nd occasion to be happy

So i wait like a child ^^ its better!! things come when they should come.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt2053:
I think the reason Nexus One won't see Ice Cream Sandwich it's because of internal storage scarcity. It only had 512 MB ROM. Google said ICS is much larger than Gingerbread. Much larger in fact. So probably there is just not enough physical space to fit it and still have any left over for apps.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kibmcz:
That doesn't make sense since the unmodified icl23d dev build from galaxy nexus that modaco released only has a 240 mb extracted system folder.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
That's a lot larger than the N1 has on /system though, it's only got 512MB total.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gellow:
I've never rooted my phone. If I do it now, can I still upgrade it to ICS when it finally comes out?

And, if I'm not shifting too much away from the topic: would you recommend a noob in terms of rooting (like me) to root a Nexus S?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidfreak007:
yes u will still get the update once ur on stock.

got ota updates before while on stock rooted.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gellow:
What do you mean 'once ur on stock'? If I'm rooting it I'm not on stock anymore, am I? What yore're trying to say is that I'll need to go back to stock to get the update? Please be more specific :D
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djwyman:
I think he means if you stay on the stock rom after rooting. As in you root but keep the rom that is on your phone now instead of installing cm7 or some other custom rom as you cannot get ota's with non stock roms
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidfreak007:
this^

when rooting stock rom u just change the kernel, not the rom itself.

therefore, u still get ota updates.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
Root doesn't change the kernel, it's just putting two files onto /system

You will still get OTA updates with root, but they will remove the su binary.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] strevellick:
Ok, I agree. Next release code name: Jelly Bean. :-) You got the jist of what I was getting at anyway.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benrees21:
ICS is great but I have a feeling Jelly Bean will blow us away!

Sent from my Nexus S on Morfic's TEUV Kernel and some help from Tapatalk!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4I-I:
in ten to 17 days ics should be released right? is the 17th the official galaxy nexus release date?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gellow:
I see. My next question would be: isn't the purpose of rooting a device to flash it afterwards with a new rom other than the stock? I understand that you get many benefits from the rooting itself, but the new rom is the real deal, isn't it?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kibmcz:
Root also allows you to run advanced apps that use apis and such that are blocked on non rooted phones eg Titanium backup. In addition to being able to modify the stock os to remove apps you don't want and such.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -CMX:
I'm going to bet we see ICS ota update for Nexus S begin to roll out 2-3 weeks after the release of Galaxy Nexus. That will give time for the sales hype and the exclusiveness of the OS for Galaxy Nexus owners.

My guess anyway, I think Google wants to push manufacturers and carriers to get updates out faster than ever before.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidfreak007:
no rooting is not a prerequisite to flashing a new rom.

i would recommend since u have a nexus s to try different roms and have fun with it. thats what the phone is designed for.

i was on stock for literally a few days, then went to cm7 and just installed miui.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rusty!:
ICS source will be released then, but it wont be pushed to the NS for a while after.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] faustika:
Nexus S will get ICS in a few weeks

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...g-ICS-but-Nexus-S-will-in-a-few-weeks_id23273
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kibmcz:
Good news :) www.androidpolice.com/2011/12/02/go...on-their-nexus-s-phones-dogfooding-has-begun/
[HTC Sensation] gypsy214:
do you guys think Google Wallet will support our device?
[HTC Sensation] Ndokami:
yes but with out nfc because well the sensation doesnt have the hardware for it
[HTC Sensation] gypsy214:
so your saying that we cant just tap to pay?
[HTC Sensation] geoffcorey:
We don't have nfc... You need nfc for wallet to work... So no.
[EVO 4G General] cesarcerros31:
After looking through engadgets live blog there was no mention of hardware acceleration being added to android 4.0. With that being said that was my hopes of 4.0 bringing true smoothness that both ios and WP7 have been having all along. Now i know there is 3d animation ( i may be wrong ) but i know that isn't the full acceleration. Question asked does it have it?
[EVO 4G General] Shidell:
Yes, Android 4.0 features 2D Hardware Acceleration (as originally added in Honeycomb), with some improvements.

Additionally, applications can take advantage of the GPU (Photos, Video & Gallery, for example) for on-the-fly transform effects. For example, if you perform edits in Gallery to a photo, it's actually loaded as a texture in OpenGL, and the "effects", or transforms, are applied leveraging the GPU to vastly improve performance.

Likewise, the panoramic "stitching" is GPU accelerated, and video capture (compression) and streaming (transformations, such as silly faces) are GPU accelerated.

It remains to be seen if the GPU is being used for other aspects of the OS, for example, being leveraged by the browser to assist in webpage rendering, etc. However, even as it is right now, it's a massive step up in quality and performance, and should facilitate wonderful UI/UX experiences for ICS even on older devices, like the Evo, Nexus One, Droid X, etc.
[EVO 4G General] thegregbradley:
Oh really! Are we to believe that somehow the Evo's GPU will be ICS supported for hardware acceleration? Will that require a HTC-specific ICS update, or is it workable for AOSP before HTC codes in their hardware acceleration?
[EVO 4G General] Shidell:
Well, it isn't really a device-specific feature.

Hardware acceleration in the UI is akin to playing a 2D game, like Angry Birds. The system is actually leveraging OpenGL to handle 'displaying', or 'rendering', the game. Likewise, the UI is 'displayed', or 'rendered', the same way.

The way this relates to Android 4.0 is like this: Hardware acceleration was added to Android in Honeycomb (3.0), and in order to take advantage of it, requires a GPU that is capable of supporting OpenGL 2.0 with drivers that are compatible with OpenGL 2.0. If you have a capable GPU with capable drivers, the OS will use the GPU to render the UI, and voila, hardware acceleration.

If any of those components are not available (or perhaps not working correctly), Android defaults to "software acceleration", which is what has always been present in Android for phones. 1.0 all the way through 2.3.7 all use software acceleration. That is, all of the UI elements are rendered by the CPU.

You've probably experienced lag thanks to this--scroll through your contacts list quickly, flip between full home screens, or load up an intensive Live Wallpaper and open your Launcher and try scrolling--you'll probably find slowdown, if not stuttering in places. This is because the CPU is doing the heavy lifting not only for the OS, but also to render the display.

By alleviating this pressure on the CPU, we free up the phone to do work it's better at handling--running the OS. Additionally, because GPUs are actually designed for rendering, they are far, far more efficient at doing so than the CPU. The result? A massive overhead reduction overall on Android on devices, that means improved performance across the board as well as a much more pleasing user experience.

This is fantastic news for devices new and old; but a real treat for those of us with older phones, as the reduced CPU overhead coupled with GPU acceleration should mean noticeable performance improvements, as well as a drastic reduction in stuttering, lag, jittery-ness in the UI, etc.

Best of all, it should be very simple to implement. Most hardware supports OpenGL 2.0 (our Evos do, for example), and most drivers for that hardware also support OpenGL 2.0 (as our Evos do), so it should really be as easy as building Android 4.0 with the appropriate drivers, and then experience the bliss of a hardware-accelerated Android for the first time.

(Note that this explanation doesn't touch on using the GPU for additional benefit, like editting photos, videos, offloading work from the CPU as I touched on above, etc.)
[EVO 4G General] cesarcerros31:
man that was a bunch of good info i needed +1 will be glad when our evos have that much needed acceleration
[EVO 4G General] thegregbradley:
Dude Shidell thank you so much for that in depth explanation! You covered everything I could have possibly wondered about, haha. A king amongst men, and a god amongst kings, you are.
[EVO 4G General] BmW13294:
Thanks alot shidell that really helps me out alot. I just have one question, did anyone here about usb host, on 4.0?
[EVO 4G General] cesarcerros31:
yeah i read that the galaxy nexus was having a usb 2.0? i will check some images to see if its true
[EVO 4G General] cesarcerros31:
Naturally, Ice Cream Sandwich is onboard, with Google finally revealing the version number as 4.0. Other specs include an HD Super AMOLED display (1,280 x 720), a 1.2GHz dual-core processor, 5 megapixel rear camera (with LED flash), a 1.3 megapixel front-facing cam, 1080p video recording and playback, a newfangled panorama mode, a 3.5mm headphone jack and Bluetooth 3.0. You'll also find USB 2.0(right there), 802.11a/b/g/n WiFi, an embedded NFC module, accelerometer, compass, gyro, proximity sensor and even a barometer -- yeah, a barometer. Finishing things out, there's 1GB of RAM, 16 or 32GB of internal storage space and a 1,750mAh battery. info gathered from Engadget listing all the galaxy nexus specs
[EVO 4G General] Shidell:
Happy to share information. :)

Yeah, Android 4.0 builds upon the USB Host support that was integrated in Honeycomb, which means it has native support for a variety of USB devices. Granted, I don't know the depth of devices or support, but it is present.
[EVO 4G General] malibu_23:
Nice explanation shi.
[HTC Inspire 4G] josh_ww:
When I go to a contact detail in my phone, it shows the following options: Call, Send Message, Send Email, Whatsapp and Facebook.

I would like to know if it is possible to also add the Twitter account of the contact so that I can jump to the twitter info the contact from there.
[HTC Inspire 4G] danielsaenz:
What ROM? Also, try checking under Settings > Accounts & Sync > Twitter > Sync Contacts

This is on CM7, but I think its the same throught Android, as long as you have the official Twitter app installed.

Sent from my ENG S-OFF, CM7, HTC Desire HD/Inspire 4G on AT&T.
[HTC Inspire 4G] josh_ww:
I use stock rom
[Motorola Droid X2] demecles:
Who watched the ICS launch and is even more angry about having a locked bootloader?
[Motorola Droid X2] singlesword:
I watched the event. Now hoping that the X2 is on the list to get the update.
[Motorola Droid X2] AtLemacks:
I am going to say that the X2 wont get it, at least not anytime soon until Moto breaks it down and skins it(so maybe next summer). The fact that there is so much built into the phone to function without buttons means that Moto has to build in and map their functionality. And, since supposedly the Xoom is the first to get it on tablet, you would think it would go to the Razr, then Bionic/Atrix 2/Photon 4g, THEN the lower end devices. Needless to say, I don't think you should get your hopes up.

I watched it though. I was VERY impressed with some of the things I saw! The lock screen portion with the video was really cool! However, I don't think I would want my phone to do that everytime, seems too tedious still. Maybe after the phone has been passive for 20 minutes or something like that.
[Motorola Droid X2] mistawolfe:
Read this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
[Motorola Droid X2] fargles:
is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?

Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
[Motorola Droid X2] ralphman:
I think the "thing" is Google wanting to buy Motorola Mobility