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[Nexus S Android Development] JmPTaz09:
No, I just downloaded and flashed after you posted about your new release.
[Nexus S Android Development] morfic:
Turn off the screen for 10seconds after booting.

Every nexus s boots up at 50Hz, the switch to the programmed frequency happens the first time you turn the screen off.

After you turn the screen back on it will be at the right Hz.
[Nexus S Android Development] xXfuzzXx:
puuuhhh cant deside between franco and talon :D franco first :D
[Nexus S Android Development] Bandis710:
Anybody able to use bln ? My bln pro app says this militarisation is not compatible with bln
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
OK...the FPS thing in Quadrant is just fine...i was too much in hurry and didn`t turned off the screen at least once to make it work..!!

---------- Post added at 07:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:24 PM ----------

I have BLN Pro on my Nexus S using NSCollab 1.0.50 anf Franco`s kernel and is working just fine!!
[Nexus S Android Development] bdpyo:
Anyone using this with Oxygen 2.3.1?

Feels very snappy @default values and seems to be quite the battery sipper so far, only weird thing I have noticed is that when I got a call earlier the phone was just ringing and the screen continued to stay off/black untill I hit the unlock button. :confused:
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I've got a question,the 100% battery charge mod that's included is purely cosmetic so how do the battery stats get calculated ?

Do they decrease faster? Does anyone know

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 06 BEAST LIVEOC 110
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18709602&postcount=51

That post might help you with your question ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Ok cool so my thought was rite on and that was if I limit the charge to 96% my battery drain will look like its dropping slower then if I let it drain from 100%

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 06 BEAST LIVEOC 110
[Nexus S Android Development] formula84:
Thanks that was an interesting read, do you happen to have anything like this for screenoff_maxfrequency explanation/benifits?
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
I recommend NSCollab 1.0.50 or Oxygen..but if u like Miui Style then KellmsKing MIUI is the way to go for me..!!And something more when u benchmarking with Quadrant don`t run it just one time, cause the first time the results are pretty inaccurate..2 or 3 times should be fine.U will notice after the second or the third time that ur results will be somehow equal!!

Yeap Mike216..I am on NSCollab 1.0.50 as u can see from my signature.
[Nexus S Android Development] Krishath:
I think that this has been posted a lot of times but, is it normal that my IDLE STATUS is always on "0 ms" for both "ON" and "OFF" options?

Thank you guys :)
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
We have answered the same question many times..But yes is normal with Franco`s kernel cause he has disable some debugging stuff and IDLE status will always return u 0..Its running normally nothing to worry about!!Guarantee..
[Nexus S Android Development] lukappaseidue:
I'm afraid that You don't believe me.

here some snapshot of what Nstools, into my Nexus S 9020 rom stock, shows
[Nexus S Android Development] jhalmeida:
Same issue here with stock rom!
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Ok, seems to be an issue with stock rom users...dunno if it's kernel related or app related. Are you both using CFS or BFS?
[Nexus S Android Development] darthchilli:
day 2 begins today

yesterday was doing okay, then suddenly phone started to crash hard..and camera kept on FC

i did squeeze a good 19hrs in b4 that

I had that screen issue someone was talking about, how the screen never did turn off, that probably killed 20% of my battery

different settings today... lowered MV by 15 so let see how it goes

also enabled maxfreq as some ppl have mentioned

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT DOES..but if i read it helps, might as well give it a shot
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
I'm on stock.. actually is so stock that only pure stock is more stock than mine :) ... and I have no issues.

I was just about to report that my phone was amazing over the day w/o unexplained drain or so. Will see more details overnight.
[Nexus S Android Development] 4tticuz:
I'm using this Kernel with Brainmaster's MIUI ROM.

Which app do you use to set cpu speed?

And is there maybe a better kernel for that ROM than this one?

Thanks!
[Nexus S Android Development] HeavenlyWinds:
Use ns tools to live oc. (overclock)
[Nexus S Android Development] 4tticuz:
Alright, thanks for your answer!

Is it better than SetCPU or No-frills CPU?

Is the phone working bad when I have all of those 3 installed?
[Nexus S Android Development] lukappaseidue:
I'm using 06 nov CFS version
[Nexus S Android Development] shubu000:
Oops wrong thread.
[Nexus S Android Development] Krishath:
Thank you very much! :) :D
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Not sure why I waited so long to try your kernel Frankie, but one word to describe it: Fast

Whereas other same spec kernels would yield me ~3300 in Quadrant at 1GHz, yours just goes further and throws back ~3600 constantly. Might not look like much, but that's a +8% difference at stock speeds.

Keep up the good work, that thing is blazing fast. :cool:
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Nice. Next update will be even faster ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] from1989:
i want to say about the deepidle it works sometimes but sometimes not works we need the idle states
[Nexus S Android Development] XxSilent22xX:
Finally decided to try this kernal and wow is all I can say blazing fast and smooth but there is one little bug I have is my phone wont stay at 1ghz it keeps using 800mhz.

Kernal - 11-06 cfs

Deepidle - enabled.

Rom - markvis 11.01

Setcpu - uninstalled (I installed to see if fix but no use)

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] jhalmeida:
Hi happens with both.

Thanks
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Maybe some noob init.d script that does that, check it.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
I don't even doubt. I'm a long time user of morfic TEUV kernels for the performance/battery ratio you get out of a "battery saving kernel", but yours could definitely take the crown (if not already done) in the "stock-like" kernels.

My only problem is deciding which kernel to settle on. Ezekeel brought so many mods that are somewhat game changers, and there's plenty of kernels around nowadays. From the top of my head, devs working on kernels:

morfic

franciscofranco

steve.garon

mathkid95

ezekeel

kalimochoAz

netarchy

iceandfire

reddv1

ogdobber

Yeah, totally hating you guys. I have billions of kernels to flash almost daily. :mad:
[Nexus S Android Development] fabulous69:
hi

do i need to reflash the rom and wipe each time i want to flash an update of your kernel, or i can just flash it over the previous version without any risk of bug?

Thx for answer

ps: stock rom
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
Just wipe cache and dalvik cache for safety precautions, otherwise you can keep your data without any risk.
[Nexus S Android Development] XxSilent22xX:
Thank you for your help, I'm gonna be honest I looked in the folder at each script for somthing related to changing speed to 800 default but I really don't know what I'm looking for lol, this is a fresh install of Rom and kernal so I will ask mark about this too.

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] fabulous69:
thx button pressed :)

just for information, what is the dalvik cache.

i mean i always wiped it when flashing etc, but what is it, what generates this cache? :)
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
If u are on a fresh rom install try NSCollab 1.0.50, or Oxygen 1.3 or DrewGaren Rom...for me those rom are the top 3 at the moment!!
[Nexus S Android Development] fabulous69:
@ FranciscoFranco:

any way to fix in the next update the "brown color bug"?

i mean the screen colors aren't as the originals colors looks like ? there is a sort of veil that makes colors become gloomy.

Thx
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
continue my problems with maxfreq, can anyone have the kindness to upload the script and send me?

i can't put that script working :(
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
You have the super LCD like me, but I haven't changed anything about colors...I'm not even sure thats possible for LCD screens...I can have a look because I've noticed that brownish color.
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/lazy/screenoff_maxfreq
[Nexus S Android Development] caleb1783:
da dev for nstools mentioned his app may not work on stock rom... wait abit he will comeup w an update

Sent from Divinus Nexus S...
[Nexus S Android Development] HeavenlyWinds:
You could try Glados from Ezekeel or Matr1x, but this is my favourite Kernel for my NS. Works great on any rom.

No NSTOOLS simply allows you to manage Ezekeel's Mods which includes LiveOC. LiveOC is currently the only way to overclock this kernel. But i don't see any use in overclocking the phone is fast enough at 1ghz. And no the phone doesnt work bad when you have all 3 installed. I use SETCPU to manage voltage.
[Nexus S Android Development] caleb1783:
you can download here

http://caleb1783.tistory.com/218

steps included.
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
oh i see, i'm trying that but i have failed in one detail and now i see where.

other thing, after put that script right it shows nothing in terminal, is it normal?

btw, thanks a lot francisco
[Nexus S Android Development] HeavenlyWinds:
Yes, as long as it doesnt tell you access was denied or any other error, it means it's now enabled.
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
thx to everyone

i'm so dumb, cuz one "space" i'm making fun of me now :)
[Nexus S Android Development] fabulous69:
thank you , and if you can solve this , it should be perfect.

Keep up the good work.

I have questions too :D

- what is screen dimmer/backlight dimmer option in NStools, and what is the delay (how does it works)

- If i choose in setcpu Lazy governor, with 1GHZ/200mhz, is it enough to save battery? Nothing more "advanced" with the application to manage even better my battery life?

thx!
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
To francisco 1/400 are the best frequency

i'm using that too
[Nexus S Android Development] HeavenlyWinds:
Backlight dimmer turns off the 4 capacitive buttons after a determined time (which adds a nice effect and good for when you a watching a movie,playing games or reading an article.) Screen dimmer simply turns off the screen and allows you to use touchwake. (From what i understand, correct me if i am wrong)

I recommend using Minimum 400MHZ, which this makes deep idle kick in faster. (as mentioned by some users before.) I am using Lazy Governer (Thanks to Mike216 which recommended me this Governer) and up to now it's by far the best Governer for Battery. And it doesnt lack power, it runs very smooth.
[Nexus S Android Development] polobunny:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_(software)

That's an interesting read. Quick and dirty though, the Dalvik cache is a caching area of the Dalvik virtual machine. The Dalvik virtual machine is the software that runs the apps, thus a very core program of the android OS. When the Dalvik runs with a certain set of parameters, it creates optimized cache files so that it doesn't need to recreate everything it has done before.

Since you are changing the kernel, there's chances the cache files created would be different. If they were to be different, executing something created with a different set of parameters could cause unsuspected behavior of your applications. It's just easier to clear the dalvik cache to root out any bug that could be caused by the switch rather than by a kernel bug of some sort.

Very simplified explanation, but I'm sure you get the gist of it.
[Nexus S Android Development] doc_v15:
Yes, MIUI... BFS :D
[Nexus S Android Development] fabulous69:
Thk you very much
[Nexus S Android Development] kdepro:
Doesn't seem to be working properly with Pete's Bugless Beast GPA19. Won't get past google splash screen. Screen goes black and capacitative buttons stay on.
[Nexus S Android Development] afzalarsalan:
Min Frequency

Should I still use 400mhz as minimium frequency if I have the screen off deep idle enabled for the lazy governor? Love the kernel though.
[Nexus S Android Development] XxSilent22xX:
Got it working! Had to wipe cache and dalvik then reflashed kernal and everything is running smooth awesome kernal!

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Absolutely!

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 06 BEAST LIVEOC 110
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Very strange, I feel I'm getting better speed with 105 rather than 110 liveoc speeds,not that I needed it but very strange

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 06 BEAST LIVEOC 105
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Very strange O_O

New kernel will be up in the next one or two hours, major speedup prepare yourselfs.
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
WOW

i'm waiting here :D
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Not possible this one is so fast I thought it had the read your mind mod built into it,lol..

Can't wait!

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 06 BEAST LIVEOC 105
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Ever think about adding just one 1100 mghz step that way we can keep a good UV

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 06 BEAST LIVEOC 105
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
not strange at all. higher oc doesnt always mean faster/better. there are certain "sweet spots" that will increase performance and there are also certain "potholes" that will slow you down. its just a matter of finding them :)
[Nexus S Android Development] belvedere:
did you alter your voltages from when you had it at 110 Live OC? if not, maybe it just seems better because the voltages are relatively 'higher.'

when I set Live OC to 105 at first it was great but it seemed like over time it got sluggish. I've upped voltages a bit and I seem to have found a sweet spot.
[Nexus S Android Development] FL0OD:
I love when Christmas comes early

Sent from my neXus s 4G
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Nop, I don't want extra steps, I've thought about it and I only want overclock with liveoc, I'm in for stability and not high benchmark numbers ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
Well sounds good then I didn't know it would decrease stability

1000 is great anyways!

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 06 BEAST LIVEOC 105
[Nexus S Android Development] doc_v15:
Yeah, Im with you for stability!!
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
i'm barely awake, ETA francisco?

Don't rush, i'm asking cuz i'm already half dead
[Nexus S Android Development] tylercarter:
Oh geez. Wont see it til late tomorrow now. Haha
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
i will let my bud working :D

first thing to do tomorrow? open this thread :D

good night ppl
[Nexus S Android Development] belvedere:
I, for one, hope it never releases.

reverse psychiatry.
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
I'm compiling the BFS kernel, then it's out.
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
now did that work, or was it mere coincidence :eek:
[Nexus S Android Development] FL0OD:
Thank you sir

Sent from my neXus s 4G
[Nexus S Android Development] ragnarokx:
Fun fact of the day: every post sims makes is always followed by this emoticon :eek:

;)

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
almost all. at least youll know its actually me posting :)
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
Sir Franco.. Does your kernel have Ram Optimizer?.. Uhm Can i put juwe11 script over your kernel? is it ok?
[Nexus S Android Development] ragnarokx:
Lol. Good way to flush out your imposters!

Sent from my Google Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
No, dont use that ****, like the changelog says it already has optimized values.
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
First of all thanks,feels very fast but my dumb noob question is does UV save a lot of battery or is it minimal

After lots of testing its very hard to tell,what do you guys know

Thanks franco on another great kernel! Much appreciated

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 06 BEAST LIVEOC 105
[Nexus S Android Development] from1989:
get it
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I think you may have learned a valuable dev lesson earlier on cracking the door on Pandora's box

ETA ETA COME ON MAN

Just joking but really leave that door closed

Loved 06, but 08 definitely feels a bit quicker and its showing up in quadrant scores. I know quadrants don't mean a whole lot but they are nice for bragging rites to my lazy ass coworkers

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 08 BEAST LIVEOC 105
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
ive flash it over the other day. i seams fine.. should i remove it by clearing cache/delvic cache? Does will have a negative effect in my memory and your kernel if i continue using it?
[Nexus S Android Development] mike216:
I dont think wiping caches will erase a ram script but formatting your system will,or reflash your rom without wiping data to save yourself time from setting everything back up or better yet you might be able to go wherever it installed and just erase it,look at the zip you flashed and see where it went

Hey I'm a noob to who's just trying to help so sorry if this is bad info but its my best guess

Sent from my I9020T NSCOLLAB + FRANCO'S 08 BEAST LIVEOC 105
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
well said.
[Nexus S Android Development] hachoo:
In 8 hrs of just music and mostly idle, CPU spy reports that I 83% of the time I'm in deep idle, however my battery has gone down about 43%. Seems my return isn't as great as others.

I've got LiveOC 110 w/ SetCPU Lazy 1100/440 stock volts. Also enabled screenoff freq. Is there something I'm missing that is causing my results to be less significant?

Using NSCollab .50
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
Thank you.. ive extracted the juwe11 script and find the location of installation.. system/etc/init.d/98ramscript.. ive check mine then ive found out that theres no ramscript in my system/etc/init.d. Is it possible that the ramscript is installed in other location? Or its just didnt flashed at all?
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
what file explorer did you use?
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
root explorer..
[Nexus S Android Development] simms22:
if you flashed something after you flashed it, it could have deleted it. or, it could have never of flashed.
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
Thanks... Thats why i love android community.. There so many help full people hehe ^_^
[Nexus S Android Development] MarkVis:
Seems like the kernel minfree fix messes up with the custom rom's minfree tweaks.

Sent from my -=Nexus MV=- powered Nexus S c",)

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MarkVis
[Nexus S Android Development] coloxim:
sorry franco...but your kernel is alway based on last kali?
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
I'm still not getting the kind of idle performances I was getting with oct 27th ... I have NO IDEA WHY.

This is the battery drop with Nov 6th kernel, over 24 hours.

I'm currently testing Nov 08.
[Nexus S Android Development] coloxim:
but you never used the phone...

the display is always turn off..
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
24 hours and you are left with around 40% it seems.

I don't know what more you could ask for.
[Nexus S Android Development] Cybergr:
I didn`t even had a full recharge battery circle and 08/11 update is out..WOW.. 8-)
[Nexus S Android Development] waterface:
Baha. Me too!
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes, you flashed the kernel 5 hours ago, thats the prob.
[Nexus S Android Development] Lalaca:
post has been edited out, nothing to see here
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
Guys ... please check franco's kernel, Oct 21st (when I first used it .. with the exactly same rom and software):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=18663151&postcount=250
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Which program are you using for testing the battery life ?
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
That would be the default gingerbread battery usage graph.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Where can i find it ?
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
settings - about phone - battery use
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Thanks, im new to Android : )
[Nexus S Android Development] bringonblink:
Hi , new to your kernel here!

Quick question about the voltages, are they all stock are have you UV'd them at all? Cheers.
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
No default UV ... the responsability to play with voltages is 100% yours :).
[Nexus S Android Development] stojshic:
I have a quick question... If I install your Kernel (I did install it, and am using it for a week or two), what quadrant should I get (optimal), if I don't LiveOC, or anything else? I'm reading some users have 3500+, but all I can get is around 2600? :/ I don't care if much about those scores, as I more trust my user experience, but I just wanna check is it normal, or is something wrong with my phone? I had Ultimate Crespo, and now I switched to KelLMSKing MIUI, but score remained the same... Thanks
[Nexus S Android Development] ro_explorer:
I'm not the developer but I'll try to answer.

The quadrant score is HEAVILY influenced by the ext4 mount option used by the rom.

In order to get a real opinion you have to use the paid version of quadrant which is showing you the scores per benched unit (CPU/MEMORY/2D/3D/IO).

My personal quadrant general score is 1600 :) ... but this is because I didn't influenced the mounting of my ex4 partitions. If I'll coose different mounting option that will boost the IO scoring of quadrant, I can easily touch the 5000+ score :).

So the concusion: there is no relevant quadrant score if you want to benchmark the real speed of the system.
[Nexus S Android Development] hachoo:
Sorry I should clear up that I was using the 6th NOV version not the very latest one. I'll flash the latest one and see what happens though. Thanks!
[Nexus S Android Development] mixtapes08:
Just flashed this kernel. I will report tom. ū
[Nexus S Android Development] lukappaseidue:
thank Yoy for your interest
[Nexus S Android Development] Yusei:
after flash this version we need to activate maxfreq again?
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
If the script is already in init.d, no.
[Nexus S Android Development] skinner12:
Hi, it's the first time that I try your kernel. Before I've installed Trinity.

I have 98tweak file in init.d folder from last kernel, is it all ok? For the moment it seems works well..
[Nexus S Android Development] caleb1783:
on my device, better battery life without screenoffmax...

gonna test 0811 today.

Sent from Divinus Nexus S...
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Remove it, you don't need it.
[Nexus S Android Development] 4tticuz:
Is it necessary to delete old scripts via root explorer when I want to change the kernel or is it enough to wipe cache and dalvik-cache?
[Nexus S Android Development] franciscofranco:
Delete everything in init.d that doesn't relate to Ezekeels mods, I have everything else set up in the kernel source.
[Nexus S Android Development] thoth77:
Franco's setting

Franco's setting from what I have seen :)

ROM : Oxygen 2.3.1

Kernel : Always his latest kernels (bfs?)

dsvarm (cpu voltage): 1250, 1155, 1000, 900, 900

dsvint (internal voltage): stock

max frequency : 1000MHz

min frequency : 400MHz

(☞440~1100)

live oc : 110

deepidle : enabled

screenoff_maxfreq : enabled

Based on these settings, revise each value if necessary

(Scripts or NSTools)

But I think that's okay as it is.
[Nexus S Android Development] 4tticuz:
Alright, thanks for your reply.

So, I have to download the new kernel to my SD, wipe cache and dalvik cache, install from SD, fix permission and delete everything in the init.d folder, right?
[Nexus S Android Development] 93ae8074:
Not everything, just things related to morfic's kernel. To be more precise 98tweak and 99Complete files.

Cheers.