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[Epic 4G General] kryptoniteman:
Did anyone check samfirmwire.....wifi not working for me right now
[Epic 4G General] AOD_Corwin:
Weren't we expecting the 22nd from the beginning of this month anyhow. So ota hitting in 2 days .. odexed odin rooted in 3.. recomplied cm7 in 2 weeks... ics in 3 years....
[Epic 4G General] lost_man10002:
nice !!! finally my wifeys phone can have gingerbread
[Epic 4G General] lordcyrus:
I'm uploading a mirror as we speak.
[Epic 4G General] tmspyder:
Why??

This is not flash able nor any use to the general user in any fashion..

you would need to compile it and then package it up for consumption.

It is however great for our devs to get there hands on.
[Epic 4G General] lordcyrus:
Megaupload Mirror
[Epic 4G General] JBauerIV:
I'm a total noob. What does this mean for me running a stock sch-i500?
[Epic 4G General] lordcyrus:
Backups are never a bad idea.
[Epic 4G General] Ultro:
Out of curiosity, how long do Devs need to make a ROM once they get their hands on something like this? I've only used SFR 1.2, so I have no idea :>
[Epic 4G General] tmspyder:
True true

Not a bad idea to put the details of its usefulness out there for those who might think they could just flash it though.

Getting a tad giddy myself lol
[Epic 4G General] mtwow789:
So.

Full support for CM7 imminent?
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Hurray! This virtually guarantees a Gingerbread release in the next 10 days. Waiting for tomorrows Sprint playbook.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Nothing absolutely nothing...

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
now lets make cm7 and miui official status!:D
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
At minimum, Deca and jt need to know about GB source being out. Then we will see some action. I hope!
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
I let deca know on twitter.
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
It'll sure feel good seing "Epic 4g" on the devices list for CM. :D

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
oh i'm sure they are well aware by now ;) .. but yeah hopefully we should see full support! which means CM8 :eek:
[Epic 4G General] mtwow789:
I think they are naming CM9 for ICS
[Epic 4G General] omair2005:
:eek::eek:
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
Deca is making commits in git source tree for cm7!

My bad those were posted 10/15.
[Epic 4G General] Wizard Knight:
What's cm8? Honeycomb?
[Epic 4G General] elrey75:
ICS should theoretically work on all 2.3 devices!

http://tinyurl.com/6xgnc9d
[Epic 4G General] || Acer ||:
And that means we'll probably get a port of ICS :D

I don't really care about official ICS at this point. No one expects it that much, so the community is done complaining (except for trolls here and there). We have gingerbread, and that means we "theoretically" can get ICS as well. That keeps me satisfied long enough until next year when I get a new phone :)
[Epic 4G General] :
Supposedly since Honeycomb was 3.0, it would've been CM8, but since they never built that and ICS is 4.0, they went straight to CM9.
[Epic 4G General] BoominSVX:
I'm scared. What the heck am I gonna do from 10pm to 2am every night when we get cm7? What does my desktop even look like behind all these unclosed tabs? :eek: TP2 to Epic, I've been stuck to Android Dev forums for 2 years straight! It's gonna be a hard transition.
[Epic 4G General] rmgill:
I was feeling a little blue following the Galaxy Nexus announcement given that it's not likely to show up on Sprint.

This made everything better. Can't wait for a perfected CM7.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
How do you figure?
[Epic 4G General] rmgill:
At the announcement they only mentioned LTE and HSPA+ models of the Galaxy Nexus. Sprint will start rolling out LTE in Q1 of 2012 and won't be done until 2013. I can't see Sprint releasing a WiMax version.

At best, we'll see the phone several months late.
[Epic 4G General] mtwow789:
W/E we got gingerbread source!!!!!!!!!!!

so Oct 22nd was right!
[Epic 4G General] CrfEpic4g:
Ahhhhh so much positive energy I was getting tired of negative posts!!
[Epic 4G General] AOD_Corwin:
Seems right
[Epic 4G General] notsosmrtgeek:
Hurrrrrrrrrrray
[Epic 4G General] philowneus:
im excited. As im sure everyone is. Devs finally get something new to play with.
[Epic 4G General] Smuuv:
Thank God!!! I will finally be able to run a final version of Cyanogen. I've been loving life on my Nook.
[Epic 4G General] MДЯCЦSДИT:
Meanwhile at samsuck

"OMG, teh battery leif sukkz, letz underclock it leik dem peepol at teh forumz!" "Y U have reboot issue?" "Hey duud luk, teh peepolz at teh forumz has a fix, it lookz like we undervolted too much." "maybz, but I lost the source codez." "Hey man lookz, tehy found it fors us, zip it up with an official sounding name!"
[Epic 4G General] metalblaster:
I really hope im wrong here but this seems to be exactly what i predicted would happen.

ICS just came out right? What i predicted a while back based on the delays and all from gingerbread and the new epic coming out was that samsung would kick out a gingerbread release for the epic and that release would be incomplete because they knew that they would no longer have to support the phone due to the influx of ICS enabled phones that are about to hit the market.

A lot of people are jumping ship from the epic over to other phones, its basic logic that sammy would release what they have finished because they no longer see any profit in releasing a full and working release of gingerbread for a phone that will be EOL soon.

I know im pessimistic and I really hope im wrong and that they do in fact release a full working rom for us to play with. I like that we now have real source, so we can actually get CM7 finished and fix a lot of the bugs that are being experienced with our leaks.

I know im about to get flamed hard for being the one to look at the glass half full, but i also know that the devs will do some miracles with whatever comes out. I just feel bad if the people who are not tech savy will have to suffer with a broken OTA update that they don't even know how to fix, root or rom.

Anyways heres hoping im extremely wrong on this one.
[Epic 4G General] josidhe:
Wow, it was always just a theory of mine that Samsung intentionally kept phones one version of Android behind because it was a fun 'conspiracy theory' to bounce around. This kind of timing, though, could practically be seen as a confirmation of this. The only way to really test it would be if anyone with a GS2 phone (launched with Gingerbread) ends up not getting ICS until the release of the NEXT version of Android.

If that winds up being the case, I think we can pretty much confirm that this is how the Android hardware vendor business plan is laid out. It would explain why SO many Froyo phones have taken forever to acquire Gingerbread (the Honeycomb gap).

I hate to say it, but does anyone wonder if the reason vendors are less into Windows Phone OS is because updates are managed by MS and it reduces demand for new hardware...? I'm so confused by this, though, because everything I understand about hardware sales leads me to believe that it's MORE profitable for a company to have FEWER models of hardware with a longer shelf life. The hardware becomes cheaper to build over time and the cost of training sales people on new hardware is dramatically reduced. Meanwhile, software developers, less likely to be fragmented across rapidly iterating generations of hardware, will be able to take advantage of mainstream hardware standards more effectively (think like how console development becomes more sophisticated even on the same generation over time), and the quality of software will also improve.
[Epic 4G General] piscesjoey:
Glad to see this forum alive & well again as official GB will definitely bring new life to the Epic! Time to find me a cheap used Epic & join in on the festivities!
[Epic 4G General] kladd:
Has anyone compiled? I'm wondering if anyone can give me some tips on getting the toolchain, i've compiled things but never an android source so i'm a bit noobish though im trying to learn. I looked around and what i found didn't seem to be what this was calling for. any help is much appreciated thanks.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
OK, I will try not to flame too hard Debbie Downer, but it makes no sense to flood both Samsung and Sprint's tech support with all the super novices not on XDA that don't have a clue calling in to say "my phone keeps restarting" or "my GPS isn't working". We here are smart enough to search for the fix or answers, 99% of Epic users are not here. HTC and Motorola rushed out their upgrades and have been releasing fixes ever since. If what you say is true then they would have it in their best interest to release a good version so they CAN be done with the phone.
[Epic 4G General] Race2Speed:
Android is released free to manufacturers as opposed to the higher costs of the Windows Phone OS. MS requires a very particular setup for there phones to run Windows Phone OS while Android is quite lose on the requirements as evident by the various flavors of phones running Android.
[Epic 4G General] dr_gibberish:
Besides, a release date this week (October 22nd) has been predicted by our best inside source here (whosdaman) since early September (Maybe even August), but the ICS release date was just moved to yesterday a little more than a week ago. It was supposed to occur last Tues but was moved due to Steve Jobs passing. I think this is just coincidence.

What's more, the idea that they are releasing source and not going to give us a working Gingerbread release is crazy. This is how they do it - source goes up on their open source site, update comes a couple days later. Call me naive but I am going with the bizarre theory that they spent all this time working out bugs :) We certainly saw plenty of bugs in the leaks we got!

What I have not heard and am wondering about is whether this source code release includes "driver source". It has been my understand that lack of source code for the drivers is what has really held up Cyanogen and MIUI. Does anyone know?
[Epic 4G General] shane6374:
It's not the first time the source code has popped up before the OTA release. At least we have it unlike other devices that sometimes have to wait weeks for source after an OTA.
[Epic 4G General] stud_muffler:
Based on the previous experience they would not OTA over weekend, more likely in the beginning of next week (Mon, Tue).

:cool:
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Sprint controls the OTA as well as telling Samsung when they can post source which should mean OTA may be announced in the Playbook tonight.

I said in May it would be 6 months based on the Froyo debacle.
[Epic 4G General] LemonHead2089:
I remember one of the Froyo updates being released on a Friday and slowly pushed OTA throughout the weekend, and then on Monday it was pushed to the masses
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Yeah, I see what you're saying now. I was a bit out of it last night watching, and I think my optimism simply blinded me to the fact Sprint may not see the Nexus after all. If we do, it will be very very late (like you mentioned), in which case I'll have the same stupid dilemma about getting an out-dated (hardware wise) phone, but all Google, or something up to date, but has a UI on top of it.

This makes me sad :(
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
yeah this is a real drag and basically confirms there's no reason to bother buying another Sprint phone until fall 2012 at the earliest.
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Or at least until the release a high quality all-band LTE phone that supports the final Network Vision configuration. I want an LTE phone that includes the 800 mHz band.
[Epic 4G General] Stoney60:
So, is it time to flash back to EC05 Stock to prepare for an OTA?
[Epic 4G General] LemonHead2089:
you could do that... or you could wait till it's posted here and continue running whatever it is you're on now
[Epic 4G General] Stoney60:
I was thinking that too. I never got around to EH17, mostly cuz it random reboots about as often as I've been experiencing all this time on EH06. I'm a mostly stockish person anyhow, but I do root mainly for the wireless tethering and TB. I use most of what others consider bloat. IE Sprint TV, Nascar, Football etc.
[Epic 4G General] Krispy Joe:
The 22nd would be a great day for a release, it would make for a decent birthday present from Sammy!
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
Man, I've had an upgrade since April of this year, and haven't done anything. Now you're saying FALL 2012? Not even Spring? Man...that's going to be a TOUGH task.

You don't think it would be worth jumping on the Epic Touch? I'll have to peruse around that thread and see how the development is going before making a decision.
[Epic 4G General] Stoney60:
I think we'll see a sprint version of the nexus before June, maybe earlier, but definately before fall. With an official GB coming out probably next week, I think a touch would be wasted upgrade.
[Epic 4G General] LemonHead2089:
that's actually what originally brought me to "the scene". had a Samsung Moment & I wanted to get rid of all that bloat. Then i started reading and learning.
[Epic 4G General] tony45x220:
Thatz what the hell I said...that CAN'T be a coincidence...smdh

Sent from my rooted, suited, & booted Epic 4G #knowdat!
[Epic 4G General] digiblur:
I know I wouldn't buy a phone this year, the Epic Touch has the same CDMA chipset as the Epic. I'll wait until they have a nice android with a keyboard that has SMR800 support and LTE support.
[Epic 4G General] slybarman:
That is what I am thinking as well. Though that should coincide reasonably well with my 2 year upgrade from buying the Epic in late summer of last year.
[Epic 4G General] magoo5289:
That would be Honeycomb
[Epic 4G General] projectm3tal:
Does this mean that the GS2 will be the first sprint phone to have ICS?

edit: other than the nexus s I guess. forgot about that one for a sec.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
I am sure some new phone will come out with ICS wellllll before Samsung gets around to getting it to work on the Epic Touch and Sprint.
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
AFIK the source doesn't have build numbers. See eclair and froyo on the same page. The flashable zips do. Sprint has not pushed or released a flashable zip yet.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I'm thinking the same thing. I know we'll get a lot of new stuff to play with in the next few weeks, so it'll be like a new phone anyway.

I'm not big on the keyboard, hardly ever use it, but it is nice at some points in time. It's not a 'must-have' for me like others though, although I like what you're saying with a Sprint LTE phone. That makes me happy :)
[Epic 4G General] computerkid23:
Oh yea its go time after work

Sent from using xda premium
[Epic 4G General] ugothakd:
This is good.
[Epic 4G General] jdelano:
awesome

We haven't had Froyo that long really and now GB has dropped. Rock'n news.

Now which GB ROM will be THE one, no more midNight ROMs for Epic 4G :( **looks down and kicks at the floor ** I miss Rob.

BUT I'm going to have fun testing the yummy GB from ACS, ERA, Random, CPK and MIUI. To list a few :D

Someone will be getting a donation from me :)

wait for it ...... yep full on geek attack
[Epic 4G General] kwazytazz:
feels like de ja vu. thinking back froyo source was out then cm development was stopped cause GB was around the corner.

ICS is around the corner, development for CM gonna stop til ICS comes, just saying.
[Epic 4G General] Migital Warfare:
I thought CM development stopped shortly after the froyo source release because of the lack of drivers, not because gingerbread was being prepped by Sprint/Samsung for the Epic.

Isn't lack of drivers the hangup that the AOSP ROMs still have with the Epic? Isn't that why the bluetooth stack is so buggy on CM? Why so many hardware features don't work on MIUI?
[Epic 4G General] ac16313:
Epic won't see official ICS, which means no reason to stop development.

Sent from my SPH-D700
[Epic 4G General] swear0730:
Maybe Rob will do an encore. Didn't his family have Epics?
[Epic 4G General] mouseglider:
Would I get OTA if I am on a stock froyo rom but have genocide kernel 2.0, or do I have to be everything stock?

Or will there be a flashable zip via CWM for us with a slightly non stock epic?
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
Not 100% sure here, but I think you might get the notification, and you'll be able to download it, but you won't be able to install it.
[Epic 4G General] hayzooos:
I think this is right. When you root it and install CWM (which you would need to do in order to have another kernel) you get rid of the Asphalt demo, and I believe that's one of the things the update looks for. The only way to go through with a true OTA update is to be 100% stock.

However, I trust our devs 100x more than anything OTA from Sprint, so I'll wait for it to be posted here. I probably won't even go stock GB though, I'll wait for a good ROM to come along and swing that.
[Epic 4G General] mouseglider:
I happened to have a zip of Asphalt Demo that I was going to put back on - but don't know if I have the room? Because I thought CWM took out Asphalt Demo so that it could squeeze itself in. Oh well, my epic runs so good now, I can easily wait for one of the Dev's to make us an easy upgrade. :D
[Epic 4G General] bender beerman:
what's all this about not getting ics? doesn't ^ this article, along with the source for gb, (theoretically) confirm that we will at least get a port at some time?
[Epic 4G General] pvtjoker42:
nothing confirms we'll get anything.. we should more than likely see an OTA GB update soon, but no telling when specifically. I highly doubt Sprint/Samsung is going to take the time and effort (let alone money) to get us a working ICS.

I also have no issue with them proving my skepticism wrong.. :)
[Epic 4G General] jdelano:
Yeah they do; he is still doing the autism software (which is a rom). So maybe so. We have an embarassment of riches here :)
[Epic 4G General] styles420:
It *might* try to update, but if it does, some components will be broken - some parts of the update are sent OTA as differences, rather than complete files. If those differences are not applied to the wrong version, they could be offset differently than the expected version, meaning the part that was supposed to be changed may remain, while another part would be overwritten... Imagine that the partitions were changed such that the modem is stored where the kennel used to be, such that you're left with two modems instead of an updated modern and a kernel... (just an over-simplified example, it wouldn't happen exactly like that because the partitions won't actually be rearranged, but I hope my point is clear)

Sent from my CyanogenMODed Epic
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
If you want the OTA then your best bet is to Odin stock EC05 when you see people are starting to get it or it shows up under firmware on Sprint's site. I won't bother because I would look at it for 10 seconds then put a custom ROM on.
[Epic 4G General] bender beerman:
probably best to wait for the developers to get it first. case in point: evo. when the gb ota came out, ppl actually unrooted and s-on'd the thing so they could receive it, then were stuck with an unrootable device for months... not that we have to worry about the s-on part, but patience truly can be a virtue. (i guess 'hurry the f_ck up' can be a good virtue at times too, tho ;)
[Epic 4G General] The Root:
Why wouldn't you just odin back to ec05, root and then flash custom? How would you get stuck on a build?
[Epic 4G General] bender beerman:
the evo doesn't use anything like odin, and i was just using it as an example
[Epic 4G General] MrTimz:
They actually undervolted some things right, but got a little UV happy with some of the steps.
[Epic 4G General] tbob18:
I believe GB and Froyo are running at the same voltage from 100mhz to 1000mhz, at least according to Tegrak. Deep Sleep could be running at a lower voltage though.
[Epic 4G General] vita10gy:
The person was asking about installing the ota, and people are rightly IMO advising that they shouldn't even if they can. Someone will probably post a pre rooted official stock within hours. You waited months, don't risk reverting to bone stock and getting stuck there to save another day, tops.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
Apparently it won't save them anything right now. It is not in the Sprint Playbook to OTA this week which means Halloween weekend at earliest.
[Epic 4G General] xboxfanj:
Well, you can always flash acs recovery (or whatever you prefer) in odin. Then flash a superuser zip.
[Epic 4G General] EvilTim:
Actually, Microsoft gets between 7 and 15 US dollars for every android phone made by Samsung, HTC and every other company except Motorola, and they are in a bitter court battle with Microsoft about it. That is why Google is buying Motorola mobility, so they can go fight Microsoft in court. Some analysts have said Microsoft makes more money now from android royalties than from windows products.
[Epic 4G General] josidhe:
Citation needed.
[Epic 4G General] rocket321:
Can anyone comment on if this is a "full release" including the various drivers or is it just the minimum GPL code?
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
http://www.dailytech.com/Samsung+to...+All+Android+Phones+It+Sells/article22871.htm

Reportedly the HTC deal was worth $10 USD per handset sold. For the Samsung deal Microsoft reportedly offered a $15 USD per handset fee, while Samsung countered with a $10 USD per handset fee. It seems likely that the pair met in the middle with a $12-13 fee.
[Epic 4G General] EvilTim:
Google is your friend buddy.
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
unreal

when you consider that Sprint was still selling this device for over $500 a couple of weeks ago, the level of attention we're getting is disgraceful.
[Epic 4G General] KennyG123:
It is only source for the kernel and another tar for the platform. It is not the full release. Don't think there is a modem file either.
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
Is this new?

http://www.androidcentral.com/gingerbread-kernel-source-samsung-epic-4g-now-available

Gingerbread kernel source for the Samsung Epic 4G now available

EDIT: Whoops, guess not.. heh.
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
Nope, we about since Tuesday night! Now we are trying to find out when OTA will happen.
[Epic 4G General] algorhythm:
Yeah I saw it said kernel source, then I remembered something about the kernel source being mentioned here... seems that it was the same thing. :D
[Epic 4G General] Kryxx:
Hopefully soon.
[Epic 4G General] Fatonuseni:
Now the GB source gone from the Samsung site! Was it a mistake that they released it?!?
[Epic 4G General] dead78:
christ

so we're never actually getting this OTA for the Epic, are we
[Epic 4G General] zanderman112:
No one seems to care on irc.
[Epic 4G General] .OmEgA:
Lmao oops :p

Sent from my CM7.1/*Matr1x* v8.5 NS4G
[Epic 4G General] poit:
The entire opensource site is flaky right now. Can't even get it to load.
[Epic 4G General] faceless:
so they unreleased the source?
[Epic 4G General] poit:
Since a few minutes after the first panicked post the entire site went down, perhaps they had a database crash or something. I'd wait until they are back up again before we read anything into this.
[Epic 4G General] s9ortner:
Perhaps they are adding the ics code to the tree?

I read somewhere that the server would be unavailable while the tree was being modified.
[Epic 4G General] AOD_Corwin:
Still gone
[Epic 4G General] bender beerman:
good thing our devs got it before it disappeared...

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they did that to the captivate, along with the entire gingerbread release they dropped for it.