yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Amaze 4G] mcs117:
Lemme post what I found so far....

mmcblk0p1(sbl1)

mmcblk0p2(sbl2)

mmcblk0p4(CID & IMEI)

mmcblk0p5(CID & IMEI)

mmcblk0p7(S-on sbl1)

mmcblk0p8(S-on sbl2)

mmcblk0p9(sbl3)

mmcblk0p10(rpm)

mmcblk0p12(hboot)

mmcblk0p13(S-off SID)

mmcblk0p14(splash)

mmcblk0p17(radio)

mmcblk0p18(mdm9k)

mmcblk0p19(radio_config_or_empty)

mmcblk0p20(mdm9k_config)

mmcblk0p21(adsp)

mmcblk0p22(boot)

mmcblk0p23(recovery)

mmcblk0p24(misc)

mmcblk0p25(empty)

mmcblk0p26(empty)

mmcblk0p27(mdm_efs1)

mmcblk0p28(mdm_efs2)

mmcblk0p30(cache)

mmcblk0p32(devlog)

mmcblk0p33(empty)

mmcblk0p34(pdata_or_empty)

mmcblk0p35(empty)

---------- Post added at 10:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 PM ----------

Just to add a point, I'm not gonna try to force a write, since this is my only phone -_-

If it brick, I'm out of a phone <_<

---------- Post added at 10:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:00 PM ----------

Quick note, DO NOT PUT SMART_IO.CRD into SD CARD! IT WILL SLOW YOUR PHONE DOWN TO NEAR FROZEN

---------- Post added at 10:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:19 PM ----------

>fastboot oem writesecureflag 0

... INFOvreg_set: request is duplicated id 14

INFO ruby_init_sd, SD card power on ok

INFOsdcc_init_memory_device done

INFOError status=0x82200

INFO[SD_HW_ERR] SD: read fail ..

INFOSTART_BIT_ERR

INFO[SD_HW_ERR] read data fail in CMD17

INFO[SD_HW_ERR] sdcc_read: retry..

INFO[SD_HW_ERR] read data fail in CMD17

INFO[SD_HW_ERR] SD: Read data fail..

INFO[JAVACARD_ERR] reset javacard error: sd reading fail

INFOwritesecureflag: Permission denied, value 2

OKAY [101.049s]

finished. total time: 101.049s

I pulled the SD card out and it fixed the lag on the phone.... I guess it does check itself against smart_io.crd......... So if we can BS a smart_io.crd into giving us write access... I think that is the key.....
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
I mentioned this smart_io.crd file in an earlier post. I also think this is the key. I couldn't figure out how to make one without a javacard. My device didn't even boot when I tried one that I found somewhere in the forums. What do you have?
[HTC Amaze 4G] mcs117:
It was probably the same one, I pulled the SD, it started up , then put the sd back, and sent the fastboot command... It was a trial and error, that gave errors.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
So no luck forcing a RW?
[HTC Amaze 4G] mcs117:
I'm studying how they got s-off on sensation, they did a hack using chmod 777

I think that's the key, I was able to execute the chmod 777 command on adb no problem....
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
They used the chmod command for the entire partition?

I was under the impression that they just flashed a modified hboot from revolutionary.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nshih422:
Just a note. Id like to help, if you need to try anything Id be willing to risk my phone :D I kind of understand whats going on but not fully. So if your willing to PM maybe gtalk, aim or whatever, id be willing to try whatever is needed to try and achieve s-off :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] mcs117:
They chmod a file that has su commands, and piggy backed the rw permissions to that file. So it can modify the protected files by itself...

So possible ways

1) chmod 777 a script to manually force s-off

2) smart_io.crd by creating a digital identity for write access

3) understand sbl3 and how it identifies the phone to have S-on or S-off.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Well we have no idea how to create the smart_io file and I assume we may have to get it from the source via leak. Unlikely but easiest if it should ever happen.

There are a few binary files that use a similiar technique. I thought that Evo 4G was one of them but I may be mistaken. Most likely in my opinion but more difficult.

Understanding the sbl3 would be very difficult because we don't even know for 100% certainty it's the root of the issue. Even if it is... how to manipulate it and force it onto other devices. So this would be most difficult.

I really wish Revolutionary would help. A lot of devices are stuck with a similiar if not identical problem so I imagine that it will happen eventually.
[HTC Amaze 4G] neoissuperman:
Where are you located? I am sure some will spare an Amaze to risk getting this accomplished.

Sent from something AMAZING!!!!
[HTC Amaze 4G] mcs117:
Oh no.. I'm just started electrical engineering. I am just pointing out clues so someone with much better experience with androids can read what i found, and be that much closer to getting S-off... I'm just testing methods other people used and pray it doesn't brick....
[HTC Amaze 4G] tragedykilla:
hey my hboot is 1.90.0008 does that help in any way?
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
no
[HTC Amaze 4G] MildewMan:
Disclaimer: Sorry if this is a dumb question/has been asked before. I just thought I'd ask in the S-OFF thread since it pertains to this.

I understand that S-OFF gives you the ability to flash radios to your phone, but what exactly can you gain from being able to flash a radio...errrr what's the point of them? Does S-OFF give any other privileges?
[HTC Amaze 4G] squish099:
Flash kernel from recovery, flash different radios.. Seems like I'm forgetting something...
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Splash images (that HTC screen before the boot animation), able to write your cid to accept any RUU, able to sim unlock, etc. All sorts of options would be available including bricking.
[HTC Amaze 4G] kronickhigh:
You mean to tell me i can't brick my phone as is?

Challenge accepted
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
That's exactly what it means!

You cannot brick this device without s-off. Go ahead and try. It hasn't happened yet.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
So binary why doesn't revolutionary want to help?

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
I cannot answer on their behalf.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Perhaps we should ask again? And for a reason as well

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Go forth and annoy.

Xboarder tried talking to them.

I offered to send my own phone to them.

Nobody seems to care... so go ahead and try.
[HTC Amaze 4G] MentalDeath:
+1 We need to get some more development for this phone. X, NRG and others are doing great but to unlock the full potential of this phone we need more devs, because I remember the incredible s when it came out had no development because they couldn't get s off and when they did they finally got development. Although if I can correctly recall htc didn't have their unlock bootloader crap so it was s off or nothing...
[HTC Amaze 4G] will_69_67:
You think it might help to start a bounty thread for this? Perhaps if we start talking $$$$ we might get some more attention.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
So how many Amaze devices do we buy for Team Revolutionary?

I have money but not that much.

It seems like HTC is going this way for a lot of their devices.

I might be overly optimistic here but I think that it's only a matter of time.
[HTC Amaze 4G] will_69_67:
No I didn't mean a bounty for a device. I read where you said you already offered your device. I meant just a straight up cash bounty to obtain s-off. They did this in the HTC Jetstream forums and were able to raise close to $1000 cash plus the device itself, and while they haven't obtained s-off yet they did manage to attract the attention of a couple devs and they have made some progress. They went from only having a temp root to now being pretty much where we are now with the ability to have perm root, flash recoveries, kernels, roms and even radios.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
So the $1000 donated was well spent huh? I don't like the idea of paying someone $1000 for a ”maybe we'll get it for you” comment. However if they accomplished it then I'm sure they will get some donations. Besides, bounty threads are only good until the purpose is met. However donations are ongoing. I'll donate to the accomplishment but refuse to contribute to a bounty for something that is not guaranteed. That's just me though.
[HTC Amaze 4G] will_69_67:
No I agree with u. I was thinking the same thing when I read it. I just figured I would throw the idea out there since so many people seem to be desperate to attract Revolutionary's attention. Like u I tend to think its only a matter of time before it gets done.
[HTC Amaze 4G] jimczyz:
+1. I will always donate afterwards unless I get to know the dev and trust is there like with our devs here.
[HTC Amaze 4G] xboarder56:
They only got permroot becuase of HTC dev unlock
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Just a thought, could have Revolutionary refused to help because they were warned by HTC(law suit or something) to do not attempt to S-OFF the last devices with the new method or they helped develop it so they are under some sort of contract to not do so?

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
It's not illegal to hack your own property
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Well if they worked for HTC then it's not their property any longer

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Yeah I had nothing for that half of speculation. I think it should be illegal for HTC to prevent us from doing what we want with a device we paid to own... Smh
[HTC Amaze 4G] macheteZen:
Okay so maybe this is dumb or totally irrelevant for this thread but I thought might as well ask. I am currently running HTCdev unlocked but I bought my phone out right and am going to sim unlock it. I received the SIM unlock code from T-Mo/HTC earlier today. I am waiting on a friend who has an AT&T card for me to stick in it to unlock it. Just wondering if this might be of use to us here due to the fact that once I put in the code it will need to reboot for the changes to take effect. This made me think maybe it has something to do with the bootloader and that we may be able to see how it makes this change to cid? Sorry if this is entirely noobish of me (I can totally see Binary shaking his head at this lol) :D
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
You could pull all of your partitions prior to the input of your subsidy code and then afterwards do a comparison check to see what partitions were effected and what changed in them. That might be helpful. Not sure how to force that onto all of ours though.
[HTC Amaze 4G] yousuc:
sim unlock has nothing to do with s-off. Just allows another carriers sim to work with the phone for the new carriers network.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nshih422:
Yes that may be true but the thought of how it's writing to the RO partitions might be helpful.

Would running ddms and saving a log show changes, just a thought.

Also doing what binary suggested but that would only show the before and after not the actual process which is kinda important in our situation. Still any information would be helpful.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
Using ddms only works while the phone is running enough to use adb shell commands and would have nothing to do with obtaining partition information.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nshih422:
Oh ok, I just figured the unlock code would be entered from within the OS and was hopeful that it would catch the process.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
When you use the subsidy code it writes to a partition however even using ddms we would have no idea which partition it's writing to or how.
[HTC Amaze 4G] alx294:
all of the sudden we find that S-OFF is hidden in the sim lock.... :P hahaha jk
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmylanman:
Unfortunately something like that scenario isn't illegal. Sony proved they can make a huge stink about someone hacking something and come out on top. I could certainly see why people would be hesitant.

Hopefully I'm wrong though.

I'm going back to school soon to learn more advanced security and forensics techniques so maybe I can be of use at some point but until then ill go back to lurking... Lol.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
If they start making them harder to unlock and give developers a hard time I think it will cost them greatly. We are the ones that go out and buy there new phones and support them. The development for the HTC devices and the modding is why I buy them. I have spent a small fortune and now have the amaze and can't get past the security.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
I agree. This is probably going to be my last HTC device unless they change here pretty soon. I paid good money for this device so if I want to use an Anker battery, make hardware adjustments to dim my screen bleeding problem, use a custom firmware, whatever it's MY choice to make. If I break it then that's my own fault. HTC has no right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my property. After my 30 day return period is over then it's officially mine to do with whatever I please. I understand the warranty issue but I would gladly waive it to make it 100% mine. Since it's not 100% mine then why did I pay 100% of the price for it? They refuse to allow me to modify my property so I can only assume that they still think that it's theirs. So in that case, can I return it and get a 100% refund since it was never fully my own property? Yeah HTC is only screwing themselves with this.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
I agree 150% We all need to let HTC know if they wanna put there stuff on lock down we are out and on to another device.
[HTC Amaze 4G] realitysconcierge:
Is there any manufacturer out there right now that has given us full source/access to its phones?
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
Don't know about full access, but Sony has some sort of program were the give or loan phones out to developers. From what I have heard from a close friend who owns one.
[HTC Amaze 4G] mrmylanman:
I believe the Nexus phones are your best bet in that regard
[HTC Amaze 4G] smatthew45:
true, but at least htc isn't trying to stop us from getting s-off, they are simply not helping us thats all

look at iphone users, apple gives frequent updates specifically targeting the "security" openings people use to jailbreak their devices, there's a huge cat and mouse game between apple and iphone jailbreakers

i'm just grateful this isn't the case with android, and will continue to stick with htc
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Actually they are trying to stop us. The new security measures are a clear proof of Apple style policy.

And i know why HTC does it. They think if we are able to install newer software on older devices we won't buy their latest products. And since they are launching same phones with different designs (aka HTC ville which is the same in specs with the amaze)each 3-4 months..it seems a bad way to try to get more money.

Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G
[HTC Amaze 4G] realitysconcierge:
As conspiratorial as it sounds, I have to agree with thereddrake. If they didn't care about us having s-off, it wouldn't be there in the first place.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
Thats why I won't own an apple product. Htc will fall in the same category as far as I am concerned and I will go back to my HD2 or sensation and keep it that way.
[HTC Amaze 4G] defmute:
From what I was told after contacting HTC, S-On is only on T-mobile phones. World phones have S-Off.

WTF????
[HTC Amaze 4G] yousuc:
They lied to you. My sprint evo3d for example was s-on. Luckily I had 1.40 hboot when I purchased it. I almost bought the amaze but chose the sensation. Glad I did. Amaze still no s-off. Hate to say it but I am done with HTC stance and ideals. Next phone purchase will be a Samsung tomorrow for tmo's sale. Looking forward to developing on that phone very soon. HTC unlock is a slap in the face/bad joke.
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nshih422:
All this should be posted on the HTC social networks as a way to try and get something accomplished. Just a thought.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
If I knew how to make a vote thread and we could show them how people felt about the issue I think it would help. Once we got a lot of feedback post the results there as you mentioned on HTC site.

Would you continue to support HTC if there phones were locked and would not allow us to turn security flag off?

Yes

No

Something like that. Not saying I wouldn't still use there phones. I buy the new phones just to mod them basically. If I couldn't do anything to them I wouldn't upgrade till I actually needed a phone. So if there doing it to try and get people to buy new phones for me it is completely opposite.
[HTC Amaze 4G] yousuc:
You can post about s-off on HTC social forums but the post will be deleted/removed.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
Got on the irc site for revolutionary and asked about love for the amaze. Got a "as I see it , yes" from revolutionary if that is truly a real answer I can not and will not try to clarify. Guess we will see in time.
[HTC Amaze 4G] realitysconcierge:
So Samsung leaves their phones more open then? Has this changed since the vibrant?
[HTC Amaze 4G] yousuc:
Dunno be my first Samsung phone I would own. But yes its root able. They are just lacking devs in it as well as Samsung releasing proper kernel source from what I've been following and working on. My mom got a Samsung mesmerized was easily rootable. I had started working on cm7 for the sgsii but stopped working on in 2 months ago because I was working a lot and did not purchase the phone at the time.

Was gunna buy one today but it costs more today to buy one vs yesterday. To wait for a mail in rebate to get my money back to make it free really is not worth it. Dissapointed on that front. And the amaze today cost over 275$ vs yesterday if 179$.

Times are tough but I am not one to ask for donations to get a phone to dev on.

Guess I will just stick with my reliable sensation for a little while longer. Besides my custom ics I've been working on is almost flawless.
[HTC Amaze 4G] akldjian:
Amaze is rootable as well. This thread is about s-off.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
I got a reply from HTC today and they actually seemed interested. Said they value opinions from the owners of there devices and want to here from us to make things better and keep customers happy. I think we should take the time to email them, but not be rude just let them know we like the option of having s-off and our phones being our phones. Won't post the whole email, but it was detailed to my questions and seemed they understand. Was surprised how nice they were.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
I've emailed them and got a pre-prepared letter. I knew it was pre-prepared because someone else posted same response. They said blah blah security blah brick blah blah customer experience blah blah. I emailed again expressing my displeasure with the "dear John" letter so they didn't respond. I wish someone would come with competition. I don't like Samsung phones (LOVE THE TVS THO) so there is no other top manufacturer option
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
I meant to put that in my post. To my surprise it wasn't pre-prepaired. It was detailed.

I just think if we all spoke our piece of mind respectively in large numbers it would matter and they would be more on our side with this.

I think at least they would allow those who won't s-off to have it, but not if only 20 people email them. Anyway I'm sure someone will get us s-off soon they always do.
[HTC Amaze 4G] defmute:
I am surprised they didn't respond. Didn't you get a survey in your email? If you just fill that out badly they should call you to find out why.

At least they did that with me, and once they figured out why I had a problem they tried to fix it and followed up with another survey to find out if that worked out.

To me they seem very focused on the customer....if the customer takes the time to give them appropriate feedback.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
That's how I felt they were very quick and nice about it. I gave them a good survey.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Just filled out survey last night. I wrote another long civil rant in the last comment box and filled it out poorly but honestly. We will see if they call
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Just got off of the phone with HTC. They gave me a follow up call about the survey I filled out. Basically said:

oh well, we appreciate your loyalty, but there's nothing we can do for you with this device. Do what you have to do.

The rep I was talking to was very kind and professional, just nothing he can do. This will be my last HTC device. It's obvious they're trying to limit what we can do with our own property.
[HTC Amaze 4G] dmunseyautotech:
It does kinda suck, but we can still do everything but radios. I flashed a evo 3d today that is now the same way s-on htc unlocked, but with twrp recovery I was able to install kernel thru recovery. HTC is still better than the rest in my opinion. Not happy about all this security crap though.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
Radios, not to mention how's that ugly HTC splash screen looking on your phone? I miss being able to change that, and s=on is keeping a lot of devs away. Just saying. And with how we have to put foil on our WiFi antenna to have our WiFi get a strong signal through the back cover and case, and a folded piece of paper in the back cover to stop the squeaking noise just doesn't go well with people who spent 250-500 for this phone.

HTC used to be the best, but idk any more. Either way, I'm going off topic. Sorry guys
[HTC Amaze 4G] Nshih422:
$652.79 after tax here. I know insane, I'm not rich either lol. I still wouldn't switch from HTC unless something drastic happens. As long as I have root and the amazing devs here keep up the great work I can live with an unlocked bootloader. Though S-Off would still be nice =)

PS. I dont have any of those problems on my new phone from insurance. No wifi issue and no creaking case issue.
[HTC Amaze 4G] :
#LUCKY
[HTC Amaze 4G] 30000:
Does anyone notice on all those gold card generators that they need a 9V battery to work? The voltage in the phone battery is much lower and I believe the same can be said for the charge going into the phone.

My thought is, maybe if S-OFF can be achieved for other HTC devices using a gold card generator with a 9V battery, maybe it's not about the code we type into fastboot that solely unlocks the phone. Maybe it's a multi step process that requires a certain voltage be run through the phone while in fastboot, and that will be the key to allowing us to successfully write "fastboot oem writesecureflag 0."

The same idea is with Samsung phones that use a homemade JIG to get into download mode or the requirement that you need to plug the battery in AS you press the power button.

Binary, xboarder, do you guys think it's worth trying to rig up a gold card generator at home and see if it works? Or do you think I will be frying my phone and this is just a bad idea all around?
[HTC Amaze 4G] smatthew45:
sounds like you got a pretty bad amaze lol, although my back cover does squeak a little but its not bad enough for me to want to do anything about it

and besides the amaze definitely wasn't the first htc phone with hardware issues, the mt4g was notorious for problems, the worst being emmc chip failure which actually led to a trashed phone

so honestly what has changed here? htc has never helped users obtain s-off, and probably never will, after all why would they help users to potentially brick a phone and get a warranty exchange out of it? and i've heard of several people getting a warranty exchange on a bricked phone over in the mt4g forums simply cuz they didn't know what they were doing.

but relax guys, all i'm saying is it's just a matter of time before a dev gets s-off, i don't get why so many people are complaining about it (past 3 pages)
[HTC Amaze 4G] Binary100100:
I agree. I'm not caring about how off topic this has gotten all of a sudden. If you want to make a complaint thread about not having s-off and putting it in GENERAL then that's fine... but I would rather have this be DEVELOPMENT related so if your post isn't about a means or a way to accomplish it then please don't post anymore. Thanks!
[HTC Amaze 4G] blast0id:
well this thread is slightly discouraging, but I see at least one familiar face, and a couple familiar devs in this forum in general, so I think I'm going to ignore the reservations I have for this device and go ahead and get one... maybe s-off will be a good thing for me, maybe I won't be so eager to waste some much time flashing kernels...etc...

I will promise/pledge a $50USD donation to whoever achieves s-off, I only wish there was a way I could actually help, but it seems the revolutionary team doesn't care to have a device, otherwise I'd donate to that...

call me crazy but here's to the future!