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[Atrix 4G General] LivingChampion:
Erm, the Fingerprint scanner takes half a second, whilst the face unlock takes like 4 seconds according to the video. Plus you have put your face up to your phone so you look like an idiot.
[Atrix 4G General] Pizzaapu:
I still like the fingerprinter better... just saying though... If the iPhone came out with this first though. It would have been a world wide break threw with technology... Its kind of sad how little attention Android gets with break threw.. dang apple fan boys...
[Atrix 4G General] Swiftks:
http://www.google.com/nexus/
[Atrix 4G General] Deggy:
I wonder if the Atrix can handle 4.0. Hardware acceleration would be awesome.
[Atrix 4G General] gh123man:
hell yeah it can. this phone was way ahead of its time. it pretty much has the specs of all the tables. minus the useful os. ics will make this device what it was meant to be!
[Atrix 4G General] sky007:
Yes, big idiot.:D
[Atrix 4G General] vista1984:
Google said all 2.3 equipment should be capable to this update
[Atrix 4G General] sacah:
Fingerprint scanner is quicker and won't suffer from lighting issues, glasses on/off etc

My bet is also this will be vulnerable to the *hold up a photo* trick that so many single camera face detection systems are.

I am looking forward to some of those updates though, task management looks nice.
[Atrix 4G General] shamdawg:
I wonder if someones photograph could unlock that.
[Atrix 4G General] Alcapone263:
which is why fingerprint scanner is better IMO >.>
[Atrix 4G General] DrunkFuX666:
I just hope we quickly do get ics... I was sure I was gonna abandon the Atrix ship and go to the nexus... but after seeing the official specs of it only having 1.2 TI processor and just a 5 MP camera... ill stick to the atrix for now... then go for the galaxy set to have that beautiful amoled HD display instead...

Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G
[Atrix 4G General] bsinc1962:
There's an app in the market called visidon that uses facial recognition and works quite well. The problem is when you're in a dimly lit room or at night. There's no ambient light so nothing shows up to the camera. The wow factor to my iphone friends is high but I found the low light issue a pain in the a**
[Atrix 4G General] fleurdelisxliv:
Nice phone im just wondering if somthing will come out that will blow it outa the water in a cple months!
[Atrix 4G General] xploited:
I don't see how the finger print scanner would become useless after this?

People that found it useful will no doubt continue using it.

p.s. I haven't used it.
[Atrix 4G General] craigbailey1986:
Something new always comes out that's how it goes... instead of giving phones some action time they saturate the market with more and more phones!
[Atrix 4G General] xploited:
Agree completely. Frankly speaking, I think the Atrix is still a top of the line smartphone. If it gets ICS in the near future, I have no problem holding onto it for a year or more.

The hardware is definitely still good enough.
[Atrix 4G General] craigbailey1986:
I have the atrix 2 and the phone is a beast... no complaints and I don't plan on changing anytime soon, until a phone can do a full body scan LOL!!!!! Plus I am pretty sure we will both get ics....
[Atrix 4G General] Rickroller:
BMX has already tweeted that, while nice (the Prime), the real beast will be coming to AT&T first quarter 2012..which I'm guessing will be quad core related.
[Atrix 4G General] LSUtigers03:
I've never used a Nexus phone or even seen what the OS looks like on the Nexus One or S. Does CM7 look just like the OS on a Nexus device? I'm just wondering if the CM build of ICS will look just like or similar to what was demoed?
[Atrix 4G General] facetubespam:
The only thing we will miss should our Atrix get ICS is the NFC-Android Beam stuff. That looks fun.
[Atrix 4G General] xxgmon3yxx:
After watching Matias Duarte #FAIL to unlock the phone via face recognition, I'm happy the Atrix has a unique feature that wont FAIL on me. LMAO
[Atrix 4G General] ClearFire:
It has a lot to do with marketing strategies.. Apple is brilliant when it comes down to marketing, that's why all of their products cost 2x or even 3x as much as any phone, desktop computer or laptop.
[Atrix 4G General] treehumper:
That's what I've been trying to tell people. Steve Jobs wasn't an innovator by any means, he reused and sold a ton of different products that were already out there. The reason his products always sold better at any price was because he was a master marketer.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Except he was in an extremely brightly lit room and he had tons of makeup on. But way to make a strawman argument.

PS the fingerprint scanner doesn't work 100% of the time either. It fails to initialize at times and takes multiple swipes to unlock in others.
[Atrix 4G General] NoNameAtAll:
Your post actually made me wonder something.

The Fingerprint lock has a fallback in the form of a pin, pattern lock or a password. Will the facial recognition have that fallback? It'd be pretty troublesome if it didn't.
[Atrix 4G General] dLo GSR:
yes, just watch the demo video of it on engadget. if it fails, detects someone else, or it's too dark to see, it immediately falls back to the pattern unlock.
[Atrix 4G General] jzaslice:
I think if we had facial recognition on our phone to begin with and the new Nexus had a finger scanner this thread would be titled "our face to unlock is now useless".

The finger scanner was the coolest damn thing to be on an Android phone at the time, still unique in the line up of phones there are today. I am still very very happy with my phone, not planning on crying about ics goodies just yet.
[Atrix 4G General] Jibraldor:
My fingerprint scanner works extremely well. Never had a single problem with it and my friends literally turn green with envy whenever i use the FP scanner on my phone. XD.

That said, i don't know how good the face recognition software actually is. Will it unlock the phone say, if i print a real life sized photo of myself and place it in front of the camera?
[Atrix 4G General] GatorRuss:
If you want NFC really badly, then I suggest you take a look at this:

MicroSD with NFC

:cool:

I haven't heard anything about this yet (how it works, etc), but I remember reading about it awhile ago.
[Atrix 4G General] sagerox:
my scanner works flawlessly.I also use it to lock access to certain apps like chase, and settings.
[Atrix 4G General] rvbarton:
I'm not sure if everyone knows, but there is already a free facial recognition app on the market currently, call Visidon. I've been using it for awhile and I really enjoy it. You can use it to protect any app you have on your phone as well (i.e. if anyone tries to open your email, it scans the facial recognition...)

I love it.

I use the fingerprint scanner to unlock my phone, and use the visidon to protect certain apps. Can have my wife finding my stash of scantilly clad females on my phone, you know. haha!
[Atrix 4G General] bobblack:
Lol I hear you. The new ICS feature that lets you set triggers to change stuff (I forgot what they call it) will sure come in handy too on that note :)

I can't find Visidon in the market on the Atrix btw... it shows up on the computer but says that it's incompatible with the Atrix. Could it be because of my android version, 2.2.2? I'm still on the stock ROM, haven't gotten around to flashing it yet.
[Atrix 4G General] DJQ1212:
C/s I agree with this completely
[Atrix 4G General] GatorRuss:
Yes, the issue is that you are still using 2.2.2; this programs requires a front facing camera to function, and the front facing camera is only active in Gingerbread, 2.3.x.

I searched for it today on my Atrix and found it in the Market.
[Atrix 4G General] Vicious Von:
they said the motorola Razr was supposed to be the first to get the OTA and because its motorola I hope and believe that Atrix users wont be far behind
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
They never said that. They only said that it would get it early 2012.
[Atrix 4G General] Vicious Von:
They mentioned the Razr as being one of the first phones to receive it. Early 2012 is great news for Motorola and the people that use their devices.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
According to Alain Mutricy, SVP Portfolio and Product Management, while he was briefing about the European version of Droid RAZR, he spilled some beans about the ICS update for RAZR. He said that the device was actually designed for Gingerbread, but as ICS is here, the device will receive the update in early 2012.

Motorola also said that Moto devices would be one of the first to get gingerbread. HTC and Samsung, its 2 main competitors, beat them to phones with gingerbread.
[Atrix 4G General] iRobby:
I hoping for vanilla flavored ice cream sandwich ... that would be amazing

Sent from my CM860 ;)
[Atrix 4G General] IUH1991:
To all wondering if we're ever going to get ICS, I have one answer for you: CM9.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Which is great and all. But then if moto decides not to update the Atrix, that leaves us with outdated drivers, kernel, and baseband. It's a catch-22. The ideal situation would be for moto to update to ICS and release the source code for the CM team to pull out the fixes, updates, etc. and implement them.
[Atrix 4G General] madnav:
what if I just point the screen at you when I want to unlock your face recognition enabled phone?

and IF face recognition works when eyes are closed, it just becomes easier to unlock while the owner is asleep...

Does this method requires your conscious attention.. ??!!!

also useless in darkness i suppose.
[Atrix 4G General] RanXX:
Doubt it

I really doubt that it will be as fast and accurate as thd fps. But let's see, I'd like to be surprised!!! :)
[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
I've seen this before on a friends laptop and even with a much powerful system than the Galaxy Nexus, it didn't always work. Light conditions play a huge role here.

Also I was able to unlock his pc with a picture of my friends face!

Worthless!
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Except they use 2 very different systems. The Face recognition checks the left eye, right eye, nose base, head, and face. A picture will not work as the scanner checks in 3D. And it takes 1-2 seconds tops to unlock. It is faster than the pin code or pattern unlock.
[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
Nice! In theory...

Light still seems to be a huge factor here. The demo didn't work as planned seemingly because of poor light.

Still, the Fingerprint scanner works even quicker without problems if on the three programmable attempts the user varies the finger position. Let's say, first attempt have the finger a bit swayed to the left, then middle then right. That way I managed to recognize me 98% of the time on the first swype.

Cheers
[Atrix 4G General] rjayflo:
I think we may get ICS since moto mentioned the bionic is going to receive.....we'll see
[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
Here's hoping...

I wouldn't mind loosing my fingerprint scanner in order to have ICS.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
It didn't work because of a combination of 2 things. Lighting and heavy makeup. Unless you plan to be under heavy lighting with tons of makeup on, you shouldn't have much of an issue.
[Atrix 4G General] BravoMotorola:
How can it check in 3D if the phone does not have 2 front facing cameras?
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Close one of your eyes or cover it. You can still judge distances with only 1 eye. Same thing here. You don't lose your perception of distance just because you only have one sensor/eye. 3D cameras require 2 lenses due to how 3D currently works. You need 2 slightly offset images, one for each eye, for the illusion of 3D.
[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
I was under the impression that the makeup argument was a joke!

But if real, I don't see how it will work with women. One day they use some makeup style and other days another.

Still, the light argument still pose a problem with face detection unless they integrate a flash on the front.
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Makeup on women normally is a lot different than the makeup required by people broadcasting. And the light issue is because the lights are too strong, not because there's not enough light. All that light makes your nose pretty much disappear without heavy duty makeup. So it's a combination of too much light and very heavy makeup that made the recognition fail.
[Atrix 4G General] Rayan:
I think this is debatable.

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/eyeper.html

I quote the article :

"people have two ways of judging depth or distance: using monocular (one-eyed) information, or using binocular (two-eyed) data. Monocular cues operate at distances of around 100 feet or greater, where the retinal images seen by both eyes are almost identical."
[Atrix 4G General] edgeicator:
Except nothing in that article states otherwise. All those monocular cues work at all distances. Binocular cues stop at around 100feet.
[Atrix 4G General] spuzzum:
Fingerprint scanner ftw
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigWopHH:
I tried searching for this answer, but I think the terms are too broad because I'm getting tons of results, just not the one I'm looking for.

I like the ability to have my phone sync apps with my google account when I flash a new ROM, after a hard reset, etc. But how do I prevent the phone from installing apps I've removed from the phone?

For example, I had an Atrix and had Tegra Zone installed. I have since moved on to a Samsung Galaxy S II. When I flashed it with Cyanogenmod, and allowed the google sync, Tegra Zone got automatically installed. I uninstalled it, but later when I flashed the phone again and reset to defaults, Tegra Zone was installed again.

How do I manage those apps to prevent synchronization?

Thanks.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigWopHH:
Bump. Little help?
[Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rjhall:
Guys I get these all the time, and it's really annoying. When I'm driving, I use google voice actions a ton. When it asks me to type in a captcha, I pretty much throw a nutty. I've searched up and down and found no way to stop these things from popping up. I'm not even sure why they do.

On top of that, they're so damn small and distorted I can barely read them. I end up doing 3 or 4 of them, and I don't even know if it's because I type it wrong or something else.

Is there a way to stop these things from appearing all the time, especially inopportune times?!

Halp Please!!! :confused:
[T-Mobile LG G2x] greatrafa:
Anyone out there working on an Ice cream Sandwich rom yet?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] FatalityBoyZahy:
It hasn't even been released yet...
[T-Mobile LG G2x] dustinscottmiller:
Check android.com. They released it right after the event about an hour ago. Galaxy Nexus is on its way and Android 4.0 is out now.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] missaellpzchvz:
SDK only.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] kangxi:
I think they would need the source code no?
[T-Mobile LG G2x] erikiksaz:
It's been over a year, but I think a while back on the nexus one they were able to build a really crappy alpha from the SDK.

Not 100% sure, but I think that's what happened. But that was only with a GB build.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] pbcal:
SDK is to develop app for ICS, not rom.

Apple also released their SDK for developer. Does not mean someone can port iOS on any device.:p

---------- Post added at 11:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 PM ----------

Yes. there is no guaranty that they will release it. Look at honeycomb.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] dustinscottmiller:
True true. But they said from the beginning Honeycomb would not be open source. They said 4.0 will be open source, so it's only a matter of time now.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] pbcal:
They also announced a HSPA+ version of phone. So it should come to t-mobile soon.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] erikiksaz:
If you really want to see ICS for yourself, run the emulator through the SDK:

Here is an older guide:

http://androidandme.com/2009/10/news/how-to-install-android-sdk-and-play-with-android-2-0-in-the-emulator/

So far the emulator actually runs pretty fast.

Interesting things:

Gesture builder - This is an app in the app drawer, allows for you to build gestures, but not associate anything with them.

Calendar - As the day progresses, the past becomes grayed out. Very easy to tell where you are in the calendar app in regards to timing.

MMS - You can attach files directly from the message creation screen. No need to go into any menus.

Other than that, there are no GAPPs so I can't poke around any further.
[T-Mobile LG G2x] mr mystery:
They said their would be LTE & HSPA+ versions dependant on release region, Verizon has exclusive don't they? That would mean an LTE release in the US.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patt2k:
Hey guys I am not sure what's going on but I have the galaxy s2 on at&t and when I flash some roms the mobile data simply wont work i have tried reflashing , enabling and disabling data and it just wont work.

Works on Villain Rom but might not work on other rom.. someone suggested to flash basebands i tried basebands like KI3 , KI4 , KH5 i belevie on this one specific rom and other one and it won't work.

if someone has an answer please help and thank you
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GodfatherSadri:
I am having the same issue with my SGSII on AT&T on GoPhone unlimited plan. I called At&T today and they said I am using a Smartphone on a none smart phone data plan. I guess maybe Samsung has released the IMEI numbers for the international models to AT&T. I could be wrong so don't think this is written in stone. I did however get internet service off and on flashing other ROms.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patt2k:
you seem to be having at&t related issue I am on postpaid with 2gb data plan my issue is when flashing other roms , sometimes rom just becomes slow when i try other one it wont give me data but it will give me regular service and wi fi works just fine
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibrant!!!:
i am way out of my league with a rooted phone (vibrant). i have spent over 50 hours during this last week reading the questions, comments, guides and advice with the majority of that time reading root guides and whatnot (thank you s15274n for the noob guide to rooting:) ). i dont understand sh!t. my cousin rooted my phone and i watched and we flashed different roms, and i still dont understand anything really. i have backed up my phone, apps (both user and system:( )and folders too many times. i have so much crap on my internal sd and i dont know what i need and can delete, but its takin up a lot of memory.

in short, i would really like to go back to froyo where i liked many of the system apps such as the best camera i have used (CM7 stock camera didnt work and the camera apps were eh), and others (i know, pretty boring). SO, will unrooting, factory reseting and wiping data/caches/info allow me to kies download a 2.2... update to where my phone was 2 weeks ago? (sorry for being so long winded:o, but i figured the more specific, the easier it would be to answer)
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dpaul007:
Better learn how to, then. This is the easiest and best bet:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=954509
[Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaintfm:
You don't need to unroot your phone or do a full Odin to get back to stock, or at least a stock feel.

My suggestion is to keep your phone rooted, but switch to a Touchwiz Custom ROM. That way you get all the fancy toys (****ty in my opinion, but whatever) that come with the stock Vibrant while also getting all the tweaks that have come from developers having over a year to play with their Galaxy S.

I would definitely keep your phone rooted in any case. The ability to easily backup apps and information in case the phone dies, ability to save battery with undervolting, or get more speed with overclocking, and all the other tweaks that only work when your phone is rooted will be missed when you go back to complete stock.
[General Questions and Answers] bronxdude:
HELP!

Since i tinkered with my phone settings, my playlist was removed.

I checked on my songs, they're still stored. However, when I play a song, I noticed that the artist's name is now written in all caps. I checked on the albums, every album is stored under an all-caps artist name.

Example: All songs by Jennifer Lopez are now read with caps - JENNIFER LOPEZ.

this has not happened before and it annoys me. she's my fave artist. thats why i want to correct this. i tried removing the whole folder (containing 61 songs), then putting it back, to no avail

please help. thanks
[General Questions and Answers] yujin_11:
why don't you try PowerAmp? That's better than the default music player
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john2321:
So 2.3 does not work with the bluetooth on my mom's car. 2.2 did so I went to go downgrade back to 2.2.

Used revolutionary to successfully go to s-off.

Trying to install 2.2 ruu.

If I try while the phone is on the ruu freezes at "verifying your phone's information"

If I try to fastboot usb it tells me the phone is below 30% power. it is not.

Any help would be appreciated
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dblkspecial:
Can't you just flash a 2.2 Rom?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sitlet:
Yea, no need to run the RUU, just flash the zip of the 2.2 rom you want.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shortydoggg:
Downgrading back to 2.2 can be done, but a 2.2 rooted ROM is your best way to go.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john2321:
Any Suggestions for a stable build of 2.2 that will play nice with her blue tooth?
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Concordium:
Just grab a stock rooted Froyo and be done with it.
[EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HipKat:
Koni Elite III
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nabbed:
Why are Google and Samsung are so bad?

I'm sure that comparing to Apple events is a bit unfair, since no one could sell "new" featured like Jobs... But come the hell on!

You are a multibillion dollar corporation; please hire (full-time, if needed) an actor completely well versed in the product being sold and being able to deliver it like a brand new feature (never even attempted in the industry) to consumers. I know you cannot hire Mr. Jobs, but come on! Is NOONE on the face of this Earth as good as him?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] aaron130:
Ya poor delivery I agree but u gotta admit the ics looks pretty AWESOME!!! If anyone doesn't know u can watch the event live on ustream.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] InkPouchMan:
Unfortunately, no indication of a Sprint/WiMAX version. Disappointing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Even Sprint is moving away from Wimax.

It'll come to Sprint with LTE.

Possibly be exclusive to Verizon for a little bit.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] speedy0339:
Why would it go to sprint? Wimax is going out and lte wont be here for a while. Maybe you can use it on sprints new lte in 2 years lol!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mattykinsx:
Did you just ask why Google's dev device would go to Sprint?

...The same reason that it went to all the other carriers?

While they may be exclusive to Verizon for a bit, it would be just about the most retarded decision possible to start being exclusive with Android.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] LukeLeBron:
I lol'd at how awesome this response was
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] poppygt:
Apple puts on a good show, I never really thought Android had to. I only care about what it does, not how its presented. I'm not the least bit disappointed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cdszoke:
I like the phone and ICS but I agree the presentation was making me sleepy. Go ahead and brag with over inflated numbers in the beginning. Show your over exaggerated ego that people watched because they either love it or hate. Your in China god damn it let me see some kung fu or something. But, the phone was really nice and ICS is the shizzz. I wish they outlined the boring geek stuff like if hardware accelerated gui was being enabled. O well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] speedy0339:
Yes why would it go to sprint? Their 4G technology is going out so google isnt going to put old tech in their new phone. Also Sprint's data is terrible and slow
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Robbzilla:
It's pretty nice if you live somewhere decent.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] speedy0339:
I live in North Phoenix in a

VERY

nice neighborhood